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[QUOTE=Jettsetter; 1192502]Well I never knew the days of 1-4-6. When I came in 2002 (Febraury I think) the prices were already set at 2-5-8. At 8. 17 to the dollar, an overnight at 100 USD was not a bad thing.
The BBS's were 100 to 150. 150 was the new customer price, but often times, you stood at 100, you got the girl. I guess it depended on your status and how loyal a customer you were. Overnight for BBS girls was at 400 from what I recall but I don't ever remember taking any overnights so I can't say.
When I came, KTV's STARTED at 8:30 or so. And it was ONLY at the Lion Hotel. And the mommies were categorized by letter, A, B, C, D, E, etc. Etc. I remember "I" group mommie having the best girls. But it was the only game in town. Back then, we'd go to the "Qing Zu Ge" footie at the first floor of Lucky. Have dinner at the Korean restaurant across the street (both no longer there). And head over to party at Lion at about 8:30, and that was considered the "early birds".
After Lion came Amazon. The first flower street I've ever seen.
Yes, I came to CP around the same time after spending time in HK / SZ. The town and it's main draw-the ktvs has gone thru so much changes so as the US$. One can still have fun here but just expect to pay a little more. CP is still value for money when comes to finding syt who will fulfill your sexual desire.
ShangHangin
09-01-11, 09:11
Actually, the first time I went to CP was back in 1998;
In those days, the direct train HungHom-Guangzhou stopped at ZhangMoutou and my partner then insisted that we spend a week-end at this then Mecca for the Hong Kong punters.
I remember going to some lavish KTV there but forgot most of the details about that night. The next day though, we all drove to Chang Ping to meet up with one of our suppliers. But it really didn't make much of an impression on me then; thus my question for I wanted to know what all I was missing!
Not much if I recall correctly. I think it was only 2003 or 2004 when the intermediary stop of the direct train got moved to CP.
Anybody recall?
SEAJJoe,
In '99, I don't recall ZMT being a through train stop. I always took the KCR and crossed at LoWu, then the local hard seat trains to ZMT (I had a factory there). My first China mongering / KTV was at the YiDong hotel in ZMT. The place was run by the chief LE. Later he ended up in jail for the entertainment activities and the YiDong shut down. There was the black market money exchange in the lobby where you got better than published exchange rates for HK dollars, as everyone wanted hard currency. ZMT was the playground.
In those days, the girls were so fresh, not a lot of make up. At the time, my Chinese was non-existent, so I had my fair share of communication mix-ups, as well as newbie mistakes. It was so long ago, the memories are so dim and clouded by age and alcohol.
SH
SEAJOE,
You were in Zhangmutou back in 1998? How old were you back then? 15 years old or something? You sure started out pretty young in this mongering hobby!
Zhangmutou has always been dubbed as "small Hong kong" With the surrounding mountains they have a lack of land so they had no choice but to build up, rather than spread outwards. Also dubbed as the mistress mecca for Hong Kong guys decades back. I remember being in Zhangmutou during 2001-2002 and you just walk around to the shops to look around, and you see all of these really young beautiful girls. The ratio of females to male was so damn low. There was like 7 girls for every 1 guy back in those days. Streets were flooded with cuties who have nothing to do during the weekdays except shop and walk around, waiting for their Hong Kong boyfriends or sponsors to come during the weekend to pump them in bed. It was sure a terrific sight! They even had this strip club back in 2003-2004. Then there was a reporter who came in with an undercover camera and leaked the footage to the News Media and the next day they were closed by authorities and out of business. That was the beginning signal of Zhangmutou's decline. After that everything started moving over to CP when the train station was in full swing in CP stop. Jing Di Li wasn't even fully finished yet and Haixia was just beginning to break ground. When you stepped outside of the CP train station, you smelled this horrendous pollution in the air, yellow gold / red dust flying all over the place. The air was almost un-breathable especially during the summer months. Swan Lake road had Swan Lake and Amazon, Xindi was just being built. So you had Swan Lake, and then a whole bunch of factories and convenient stores and everything was pitch dark until you reached Xindi Area and then everything was factories until you reached Amazon. And yes- they still had that smelly river back then. It's been smelly and it WILL ALWAYS remain smelly.
My first CP hotel experience was Lucky Hotel, and I was completely shocked that they had rooms with no windows. In fact I was pretty scared that I would suffocate or just die in a horrible death if a fire ever broke out. I brought a girl for an overnight stay, and we slept until 2-3 pm because there was no light in the room due to a lack of windows. Dim Sum in the morning at Lucky Hotel was decent. I remember I even went to the pedestrian street to buy my girl a pair of sunglasses for 6 RMB and when I gave it to her, she was so Happy! Imagine that? Now you give a girl 100 RMB tip they expect it. You take them out to go shopping and they want you to buy them an apple iphone 4.
The Chicken Run was back in the Old Location, where they literally had chickens running around, three rooms with an outdoor patio with chickens running around. It was a strange sight for a first-timer, but somewhat exciting at the same time. Especially when this happened before SARS happened so you weren't that afraid of Chickens yet.
Good Old Days.
AsnDragon.
Actually, the first time I went to CP was back in 1998;
In those days, the direct train HungHom-Guangzhou stopped at ZhangMoutou and my partner then insisted that we spend a week-end at this then Mecca for the Hong Kong punters.
I remember going to some lavish KTV there but forgot most of the details about that night. The next day though, we all drove to Chang Ping to meet up with one of our suppliers. But it really didn't make much of an impression on me then; thus my question for I wanted to know what all I was missing!
Not much if I recall correctly. I think it was only 2003 or 2004 when the intermediary stop of the direct train got moved to CP.
Anybody recall?
SEAJ
MeiBao Sauna is off the hook!
Wednesday Flower Street Line Up starts at 3:30pm to 4:30 pm. When I arrived there at 2:26 pm there were more Johns there than Women. I mean the whole show room was loaded with guys. Must have been at least 23 guys waiting and hungry to grab the next best girl that walked through the corridors. 4 minutes elapsed and right at 2:30 pm sharp the girls start trickling into the showroom. Guys there had no mercy. They all jumped on their feet and grabbed whatever girl was available or looked hot to them. It was almost like 23 hungry starving men at a buffet line with no regards to courtesy or rules. In a blink of an eye 10 girls were at the arms of guys right away, while the other 13 guys were still waiting to see which girl suited their fancy.
Number 363 was an interesting pick. She is from Dongbei, JiLin Province. About 5 feet 5 inches tall. Has almost no boobs, but she's got a really funky personality. Likes to smile, and giggle a lot. She gives you a really cold look in the showroom, but in the bedroom she is quite friendly and warms up to you a lot! In fact her favorite activity and forte are BJs. Her record for the longest BJ was with a customer who was drunk and she gave a continuous blow job for 1 hour straight. She said her mouth had sores afterwards. I did not know whether or not to laugh about this, or to be afraid. I think simultaneously, both thoughts were running through my head. But she gives really great blow jobs! She has a sexy Victoria Secrets style outfit that she wears during the session, in which when she wears it, she completely changes into a different person. Almost as if you are making love to a sexy mistress or naughty girlfriend. She's 22 years, may look older due to the make up, but she's got a pretty good attitude overall. Very sexy face, Body is not all that spectacular but she's really an interesting mixture of spunky attitude and humor.
AsnDragon
I was a little more comfortable making this 2nd trip, having been there once before. Arrived at HKIA and headed to Eternal East counter to catch MPV to CP. This time the queue at the borders were pretty short and we cleared immigration in 15 mins, this means we got to the interchange at Shenzhen in 1 hour. Now this is where the fun begins. The last time it was a 10 sec wait to catch the connecting MPV the CP, this time it was more like 20 mins. Standing there wearing my badge of shame. All pax wear stickers with their destination written on it and there is only one reason to go to CP. There was 2 other pax on the mpv from Taiwan, guessing from their EVA luggage tags. Usually at the start of the journey you see signs pointing to Dongguan but later you should start seeing to Changping roadsigns but never saw any, I whip out my GPS and see that we are in Dongguan and the driver appears to be asking for directions. I'm not sure as I don't speak putongwah, I ask the other 2 pax who spoke english and they confirm that the driver is lost, I ask them to tell the driver he could borrow my GPS (actually phone Nokia C5) but they say, no because he is a dickhead and he can suffer. I thought WTF, we will all be screwed. I think earlier on they wanted to be taken directly to their hotel but the driver refused so they were pissed having to walk a little or take another cab. So this trip took about 3 hours. Fortunately BSD had booked Walter Hotel which is across the road from where the stop was.
I actually brought some dirty laundry with me, because I'm just too lazy to wash them myself and cleaners are expensive back in the real world. I normally do this when I visit Thailand / Phillippines where labour is cheap. Walter laundry prices are only RMB10 (for each shirt / trousers) ready the next day. For some reason they did not charge me for 1 shirt, the housekeeping tried to explain why, but I did not understand her.
We had a room on the 3rd level with a good crowd, No flower street, the girls were brought in batches. There was one I saw that I would definitely want but her tag was on the right side, so no takeout. Then a petite girl in pink caught my eye. So I picked her. I think you get 10 mins worth of sitting before you had to commit to at least the start of 3-7-10. Another nice one appeared but another guy in the room picked her first. On the third group I saw a tall slim one with a nice face, so she became my second. As the crowd grew the room became too small and we split into a smaller room on level 2. Initially, I had real trouble choosing between the two. I was more attracted to one but the other was more affectionate. There was a guy who had real difficulty picking even 1 girl, I could not figure out why as there were at least 2 or 3 more from the preceding groups I would have picked but I already had 2. I offered him the pick of any of my 2 girls if that would make him stay but he just left. Then there was a girl who just sat and did nothing, did not want to play games, etc. So she was offered 1/3 of her sitting fee to just leave. She threw a fit and argued and in the end she got nothing. BSD was also there to sort some discrepancy with the bill. As the night wore on, it became apparent I should stick with the first girl, the second girl was skinnier than I thought, plus she was constantly texting on our dime. So I cut her loose and the first girl in pink and I left for my hotel soon after. At my request BSD also told her that she should stay until 10am.
The first usual one pop went well, if I had to complain, I would say that her excellent BBBJ did not last long enough. Then we went to sleep, I think that was about midnight. At about 5am, I was woken up by some kissing on my lips, initiated by her. I thought, OK she wanted to leave early, that's fine as long as I got my 2nd pop. Just kissing, hugging in the dark and before I knew it, I was inside her. No BJ. Oh well, can't win them all. I had a quick wash after and expected to see her changed and about to leave but she was back in bed asleep. So I went back to bed. At about 9am, I felt her hand on my dick, and a 2nd BJ, but I thought to myself, no way can she squeeze a 3rd pop from me in such a short time (I'm getting old) , but she did. Great girl with excellent GFE. Gave her the agreed 1000 and some imported chocolate as well. BSD felt I should have tipped her extra. I will take note for next time.
No KTV on Sunday, so BSD took me to Yihao Sauna. My first ever CP Sauna. I enquired about take home and Dave said it was possible after her shift. I think the rates start at 488, 588 etc. We were shown about 3 or 4 groups and I settled for a 588 girl, I really did not find the more expensive girl more attractive, in some cases less. Dave guessed I would pick her too. She was petite and has great breast. The sauna starts with 1 pop right away, then a great wash on a warm mesage bed with an exfoliating scrub. I wished I got that experience first before the pop, but did not realise a 2nd pop was standard after. I really tried but after 3 pops the night before. 1 was all I could manage. I was all popped out and did not bother about an overnight.
On my way out of the KTV, I saw the most amazing girl. She had a good body and a face that reminded me of Shu Qi, maybe even better. She was with another punter getting into the lift laughing away. I was smitten, my jaw dropped and I drooled. I'm guessing she was from somewhere else other than Yihao as she had just entered the lift from the lobby like they just came from somewhere else, Dave please keep an eye out for her and get her number for my next trip.
After I got back to my hotel, I went back to a nearby DVD shop (around the corner from Miraton) and bought a few more DVDs. Usually I can't be bothered but there were a few arthouse type movies I could not find on rental catalog back home.
The trip back to HKIA can be conveniently purchased from a travel counter at the hotel. This MPV took us straight to the airport with no stops and it would have arrived at the airport within 2 hours if not for the breakdown about 5km from the airport. The MPV was leaking coolant, the engine seized and he could not get it started again. I wished I sat up front, I would have watched out for it. Anyway they sent another car from the airport so it took another 15 mins. Fortunately we were close to the airport, it would have taken longer if we were much further.
Not sure if any of the guys I met is on this board, it was nice knowing you all. Maybe see you again.
Fast Eddie 48
09-01-11, 16:10
All I can say is wow and ask myself why the fuck did I not know about this place back then. From ’89 to ’02, BKK and Pattaya were my regular stomping grounds. I mean I travelled around South East Asia, Hong Kong, and visited many countries, but I didn’t really think of looking for girls much outside of LOS. First time I went to Phnom Penh was in '04 and it was still great with sweet girls who would stay all night and do anything you asked; for “up to you.” They made Thai girls seem like mercenaries. Since then I have been branching out. First Macau a couple of years ago, which I loved and now been to 4 times, and then this last trip; the Philippines in 2011 of which I have mixed views. Yeah, I have had my share of good times, but I never experienced what you guys are talking about - SOP and Flower Street. Can't wait!To Natty Bumpo.
I miss the old Svay pak a111 km just outside Phnom penh the cheapest p4p I ever have 5 USD many cute Vietnam girl but there are also avalible in the city but cost a bit
More about 7 USD but most of the girl are just too young, I remember CP old BBS area near the train station back in 1998 cost back then is 100. 120 rmb for st and 400 for all.
Nighter, tonight swan lake bbs area want 250 rmb for st only saw 2 shop are open with just a few girl
Fast Eddie 48
from poopbunny's fine report below: "bsd felt i should have tipped her extra." whaaaaaat? on the subject of tipping (re: for good service for the girls) i distinctly recall dave telling me that bsd is to be the only tip recipient in dongguan! the report goes to show that bsd's services, when it comes to fixing discrepancies, are invaluable.
Cubfan1963
09-01-11, 18:26
Does anyone have info on Guzhen? I will be staying at the International Hotel and was wondering if it was GF and where do best find WG in the area.
Thanks
from poopbunny's fine report below: "bsd felt i should have tipped her extra." whaaaaaat? on the subject of tipping (re: for good service for the girls) i distinctly recall dave telling me that bsd is to be the only tip recipient in dongguan! the report goes to show that bsd's services, when it comes to fixing discrepancies, are invaluable.i think bsdave's guidance is to tip those who actually work hard for your pleasure. tipping as a way of showing off is discouraged as that person is displaying that he has (is) a "big swinging dick." an example is tipping a girl's sitting fee an extra 100 rmb. although not a big deal if done discreetly, but if given for all to see, it may create jealousy for other girls who would expect their dates to tip just as much.
in the comfort of your room, a tip for good service to the girls is kinda nice. a tip for her taxi fare, for her snack after she leaves, or for her penalty if she did not order a drink in the ktv room is kinda a gentlemanly thing to do. just don't go overboard and start throwing those maos like she would be so grateful for your generosity. chances are, she'll spend it without a second thought.
as for bsdave's tip, if you're going to tip others, why not someone who's got your back and has your days and evenings planned for you? in any case, we gotta take care of our brothers. when the chips are down, who u gonna call? that's right, bsdave!
Jettsetter
09-01-11, 19:12
Joe,
In '99, I don't recall ZMT being a through train stop. I always took the KCR and crossed at LoWu, then the local hard seat trains to ZMT (I had a factory there). My first China mongering / KTV was at the YiDong hotel in ZMT. The place was run by the chief LE. Later he ended up in jail for the entertainment activities and the YiDong shut down. There was the black market money exchange in the lobby where you got better than published exchange rates for HK dollars, as everyone wanted hard currency. ZMT was the playground.
In those days, the girls were so fresh, not a lot of make up. At the time, my Chinese was non-existent, so I had my fair share of communication mix-ups, as well as newbie mistakes. It was so long ago, the memories are so dim and clouded by age and alcohol.
SHHere are a few good changes. When we first started in China. About 95% of the girls I met, did not shave their armpits. Big turn off. Some were naturally without hair there, but those with, stayed. I welcome the GOOD changes in that respect, where the women have learned about the "western" ideas. But here and there you still find some hairy armpits! Ugh!
The second good change, back then, it was VERY difficult to find a girl who would blow. I mean you'd have thought you proposed sodomy with a goat when you suggested a BJ! Nowadays. The norm. Expected. Anything less, gets the boot. (although some still try to get away without it).
The third good change. Better service. Well. Some would argue, but I think in general, girls know more what to do than back then. Back then they were clueless and nowadays, they seem more trained. (I'm sure I'll get lots of disagreement in this category. Because there are still plenty of bad service girls out there because of sheer numbers) but in terms of percentage. I feel they know more what to do. Take care, sex, etc. Etc.
-Jett
from poopbunny's fine report below: "bsd felt i should have tipped her extra." whaaaaaat? on the subject of tipping (re: for good service for the girls) i distinctly recall dave telling me that bsd is to be the only tip recipient in dongguan! the report goes to show that bsd's services, when it comes to fixing discrepancies, are invaluable.yeah, i recall the same, that is why i did not tip her. perhaps only a consolation but i did give her chocolate.
maybe bsd suggested it because, she actually beat me to paying for the cab fare from ktv to hotel. not sure how often this happens as i am new to the cp scene.
she was hungry and i offered her anything she wanted from the hotel room service menu, she picked the cheapest meal, only rmb27. i also threw in her choice of drink from the mini-bar rmb10.
In the comfort of your room, a tip for good service to the girls is kinda nice. A tip for her taxi fare, for her snack after she leaves, or for her penalty if she did not order a drink in the KTV room is kinda a gentlemanly thing to do. Just don't go overboard and start throwing those Maos like she would be so grateful for your generosity. Chances are, she'll spend it without a second thought.
As for BSDave's tip, if you're going to tip others, why not someone who's got your back and has your days and evenings planned for you? In any case, we got to take care of our brothers. When the chips are down, who you going to call? That's right, BSDave!You are definitely right on.
My chips were already down when I arrived in CP with no knowledge "PuTongWhah". BSDave was always a phone call away to help with any translation, so I took care of him.
BTW, one of the doorman at Walter had a personal car at his disposal and spoke a smidgen of english, I used him once for getting to the KTV which proved very handy.
Pointpanic
09-03-11, 22:23
To Natty Bumpo.
I miss the old Svay pak a111 km just outside Phnom penh the cheapest p4p I ever have 5 USD many cute Vietnam girl but there are also avalible in the city but cost a bit
More about 7 USD but most of the girl are just too young, I remember CP old BBS area near the train station back in 1998 cost back then is 100. 120 rmb for st and 400 for all.
Nighter, tonight swan lake bbs area want 250 rmb for st only saw 2 shop are open with just a few girl
Fast Eddie 48Natty. Fast Eddie is correct. CP is different because there are so few foreign tourists (non Chinese people). The girls in CP are less mercenary than BKK girls and there are less drugs. However, you need to hook up with person who speaks Mandarin.
Fast Eddie. I freaked out at Svay Pak. I thought I had just entered a junior high school playground and thought better. I did not stay.
Fast Eddie 48
09-05-11, 10:17
Natty. Fast Eddie is correct. CP is different because there are so few foreign tourists (non Chinese people). The girls in CP are less mercenary than BKK girls and there are less drugs. However, you need to hook up with person who speaks Mandarin.
Fast Eddie. I freaked out at Svay Pak. I thought I had just entered a junior high school playground and thought better. I did not stay.To Point
What high school Svay pak have a place call kiddie corner I don't like them too young prefer them 18 and up, I told the pimp 18 only they still show me girl that is too damn young, it is not some place I want to go again and I am glad they closed the place down and rescue those girl, even the bbs girl at CP are too young also I only saw 2 shop at swan lake all the other one are closed may be more open on the weekend, I did check out the clipper sauna very nice 550 all included with a tall girl ok service they have very nice room like to stay overnight next time after mid night.
Fast Eddie 48
i was a little more comfortable making this 2nd trip, having been there once before. arrived at hkia and headed to eternal east counter to catch mpv to cp. this time the queue at the borders were pretty short and we cleared immigration in 15 mins, this means we got to the interchange at shenzhen in 1 hour. now this is where the fun begins. the last time it was a 10 sec wait to catch the connecting mpv the cp, this time it was more like 20 mins. standing there wearing my badge of shame. all pax wear stickers with their destination written on it and there is only one reason to go to cp. there was 2 other pax on the mpv from taiwan, guessing from their eva luggage tags. usually at the start of the journey you see signs pointing to dongguan but later you should start seeing to changping roadsigns but never saw any, i whip out my gps and see that we are in dongguan and the driver appears to be asking for directions. i'm not sure as i don't speak putongwah, i ask the other 2 pax who spoke english and they confirm that the driver is lost, i ask them to tell the driver he could borrow my gps (actually phone nokia c5) but they say, no because he is a dickhead and he can suffer. i thought wtf, we will all be screwed. i think earlier on they wanted to be taken directly to their hotel but the driver refused so they were pissed having to walk a little or take another cab. so this trip took about 3 hours. fortunately bsd had booked walter hotel which is across the road from where the stop was.
i actually brought some dirty laundry with me, because i'm just too lazy to wash them myself and cleaners are expensive back in the real world. i normally do this when i visit thailand / phillippines where labour is cheap. walter laundry prices are only rmb10 (for each shirt / trousers) ready the next day. for some reason they did not charge me for 1 shirt, the housekeeping tried to explain why, but i did not understand her.
we had a room on the 3rd level with a good crowd, no flower street, the girls were brought in batches. there was one i saw that i would definitely want but her tag was on the right side, so no takeout. then a petite girl in pink caught my eye. so i picked her. i think you get 10 mins worth of sitting before you had to commit to at least the start of 3-7-10. another nice one appeared but another guy in the room picked her first. on the third group i saw a tall slim one with a nice face, so she became my second. as the crowd grew the room became too small and we split into a smaller room on level 2. initially, i had real trouble choosing between the two. i was more attracted to one but the other was more affectionate. there was a guy who had real difficulty picking even 1 girl, i could not figure out why as there were at least 2 or 3 more from the preceding groups i would have picked but i already had 2. i offered him the pick of any of my 2 girls if that would make him stay but he just left. then there was a girl who just sat and did nothing, did not want to play games, etc. so she was offered 1/3 of her sitting fee to just leave. she threw a fit and argued and in the end she got nothing. bsd was also there to sort some discrepancy with the bill. as the night wore on, it became apparent i should stick with the first girl, the second girl was skinnier than i thought, plus she was constantly texting on our dime. so i cut her loose and the first girl in pink and i left for my hotel soon after. at my request bsd also told her that she should stay until 10am.
the first usual one pop went well, if i had to complain, i would say that her excellent bbbj did not last long enough. then we went to sleep, i think that was about midnight. at about 5am, i was woken up by some kissing on my lips, initiated by her. i thought, ok she wanted to leave early, that's fine as long as i got my 2nd pop. just kissing, hugging in the dark and before i knew it, i was inside her. no bj. oh well, can't win them all. i had a quick wash after and expected to see her changed and about to leave but she was back in bed asleep. so i went back to bed. at about 9am, i felt her hand on my dick, and a 2nd bj, but i thought to myself, no way can she squeeze a 3rd pop from me in such a short time (i'm getting old) , but she did. great girl with excellent gfe. gave her the agreed 1000 and some imported chocolate as well. bsd felt i should have tipped her extra. i will take note for next time.
no ktv on sunday, so bsd took me to yihao sauna. my first ever cp sauna. i enquired about take home and dave said it was possible after her shift. i think the rates start at 488, 588 etc. we were shown about 3 or 4 groups and i settled for a 588 girl, i really did not find the more expensive girl more attractive, in some cases less. dave guessed i would pick her too. she was petite and has great breast. the sauna starts with 1 pop right away, then a great wash on a warm mesage bed with an exfoliating scrub. i wished i got that experience first before the pop, but did not realise a 2nd pop was standard after. i really tried but after 3 pops the night before. 1 was all i could manage. i was all popped out and did not bother about an overnight.
on my way out of the ktv, i saw the most amazing girl. she had a good body and a face that reminded me of shu qi, maybe even better. she was with another punter getting into the lift laughing away. i was smitten, my jaw dropped and i drooled. i'm guessing she was from somewhere else other than yihao as she had just entered the lift from the lobby like they just came from somewhere else, dave please keep an eye out for her and get her number for my next trip.
after i got back to my hotel, i went back to a nearby dvd shop (around the corner from miraton) and bought a few more dvds. usually i can't be bothered but there were a few arthouse type movies i could not find on rental catalog back home.
the trip back to hkia can be conveniently purchased from a travel counter at the hotel. this mpv took us straight to the airport with no stops and it would have arrived at the airport within 2 hours if not for the breakdown about 5km from the airport. the mpv was leaking coolant, the engine seized and he could not get it started again. i wished i sat up front, i would have watched out for it. anyway they sent another car from the airport so it took another 15 mins. fortunately we were close to the airport, it would have taken longer if we were much further.
not sure if any of the guys i met is on this board, it was nice knowing you all. maybe see you again.hey poopbunny,
i noticed you said there were vans from donguan / changping area direct to hkia? how frequent do they run and cost? i have flight out of hkia at 1130 am soon. any help is appreciated from you or anyone else here familiar. i rather leave from guangzhou city but this is also a option as i will have 3 boxes to carry back with me.
pc out
To Natty Bumpo.
I miss the old Svay pak a111 km just outside Phnom penh the cheapest p4p I ever have 5 USD many cute Vietnam girl but there are also avalible in the city but cost a bit
More about 7 USD but most of the girl are just too young, I remember CP old BBS area near the train station back in 1998 cost back then is 100. 120 rmb for st and 400 for all.
Nighter, tonight swan lake bbs area want 250 rmb for st only saw 2 shop are open with just a few girl
Fast Eddie 48Fast Eddie the cheapest I had so far was 7 USD a few years back in Quito / Ecuador. There are too many of those bars with chicas called "chongos". You get a token from the cashier called "ficha" and you give it to any of the girl you choose. She will give you 20 minutes of her time in a room upstairs. If you want more time you simply give her two fichas. Nowdays must be around 10 USD I guess
hey poopbunny,
i noticed you said there were vans from donguan / changping area direct to hkia? how frequent do they run and cost? i have flight out of hkia at 1130 am soon. any help is appreciated from you or anyone else here familiar. i rather leave from guangzhou city but this is also a option as i will have 3 boxes to carry back with me.
pc outhave a look.
http://bestofguangzhou.com/travel/bus-coach/gogo-bus-hong-kong-airport/
they also have from chang ping. i used them 2 years ago. there must be others too.
hey poopbunny,
i noticed you said there were vans from donguan / changping area direct to hkia? how frequent do they run and cost? i have flight out of hkia at 1130 am soon. any help is appreciated from you or anyone else here familiar. i rather leave from guangzhou city but this is also a option as i will have 3 boxes to carry back with me.
pc outout of cp they have frequent vans leaving for hkia from huihua hotel and abc coffee. you can contact the ticket office in the hotel for the times, but they are frequent departures. i would give myself at least 3 hours before you need to be at the airport. most of the time it only takes about 2-2:30 hours for the trip, but you never know about some moron riding in your van that forgets their passport or tries to "smuggle" something across the border, or just a random check at the border. it cost 200rmb and they stop at a couple of the hotels if necessary to pick up passengers. you need to make a reservation / buy a ticket in advance so they will reserve your seat.
SE Asia Joe
09-06-11, 07:49
Out of CP they have frequent vans leaving for HKIA from HuiHua hotel and ABC Coffee. You can contact the ticket office in the hotel for the times, but they are frequent departures. I would give myself at least 3 hours before you need to be at the airport. Most of the time it only takes about 2-2:30 hours for the trip, but you never know about some moron riding in your van that forgets their passport or tries to "smuggle" something across the border, or just a random check at the border. It cost 200rmb and they stop at a couple of the hotels if necessary to pick up passengers. You need to make a reservation / buy a ticket in advance so they will reserve your seat.I've heard it mentioned on another forum that if you buy your CP-HKIA MPV transport through Ken at Go-fly travel agent at the far end of the Miraton Lobby (I / O the business centre) , that he can sell them for RMB 170 I / o 200.
Not sure if you need to first be his client whilst you're KTV'ing etc in CP or not. But no harm in trying.
SEAJ
hey poopbunny,
i noticed you said there were vans from donguan / changping area direct to hkia? how frequent do they run and cost? i have flight out of hkia at 1130 am soon. any help is appreciated from you or anyone else here familiar. i rather leave from guangzhou city but this is also a option as i will have 3 boxes to carry back with me.
pc outthey cost me rmb200. there was a schedule and i did not study it but from memory there was at least 3 departures every 2 hours. they pick up a few pax from other hotels and when they picked me up from walter, i was the last pax, there was already 6 other pax in the mpv. could be the same mpv that do pick ups from hui hua, etc. others are talking about.
could have reached hkia in 1hr 55 mins, but due to that breakdown, it was more like 2hr 15min.
SE Asia Joe
09-06-11, 12:06
they cost me rmb200. there was a schedule and i did not study it but from memory there was at least 3 departures every 2 hours. they pick up a few pax from other hotels and when they picked me up from walter, i was the last pax, there was already 6 other pax in the mpv. could be the same mpv that do pick ups from hui hua, etc. others are talking about.
could have reached hkia in 1hr 55 mins, but due to that breakdown, it was more like 2hr 15min.you guys may want to have a look at my travel / transport to / from cp - post 5705 on this thread 5 pages back, for a comprehensive review of transport options and schedules etc.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1628-south-china-dongguan&p=1188891&viewfull=1#post1188891
seaj
I've heard it mentioned on another forum that if you buy your CP-HKIA MPV transport through Ken at Go-fly travel agent at the far end of the Miraton Lobby (I / O the business centre) , that he can sell them for RMB 170 I / o 200.
Not sure if you need to first be his client whilst you're KTV'ing etc in CP or not. But no harm in trying.
SEAJAffirmative. 170rmb mpv CP / HKIA from Ken (Gofly ). Pick up at Hui Hua.
Thanks all for the great info. I will certsainly use one of these options.
Looking for a great time as usual in Zhontang area.
PC out
I will not be back in China anytime soon. Old boats sometime get de-comissioned. Such is life. But, I still have some of your guys as my life-long brothers. What you give to me, I will still try to give back to you.
For you guys saying how BSD suggest to offer a tip. Be your own man. You do not have to come onto here to discuss it. Do it, or do not do it. For consideration, I think it was 2002 and I was in Shenzhen. I jump into a Taxi and ask Mr. Wong / Taxi to take me to a "ZhongGuo Disco". He took me to HuangGuang border area. And a pretty girl is standing on the street. I can hear the ZhongGuo Disco near to us. She looks drunk. Stoned? Happy? I do not know. Bottom line is that for 400 RMB, she goes to my hotel (in Futian Qu / District) and SUCKS my balls dry. It was something like 7-9 blow jobs, her swallowing, in 5 hours! 400 RMB.
Yes, I can talk about the 'Good old days", but those days are always changing.
I would LOVE to be back in China, but I won't be there. You brothers can belly-ache (and should!) about BBS girls in CP asking 200 RMB.
But if you really want to learn what life is about. Forgive me. But here, back in USA. I have 2 wonderful girls happening.
- 1 is 19yo Chinese, and I support her with $1000 USD / month, and we have our playtime 8 / month.
- 1 is 24yo Filipina, and free time, but more of a drive from my home. Bi-sexual, and I let her worry about those arrangements.
Some guys might say I pay too much, but those living in Canada / USA I think will agree I have a good deal. If the deal is not good, then I will keep working on the business deal.
Summary. Take what you learn in China, because some day China will change, and you need to take what you learn and enjoy it where you are living. Do I dream of my days in China? Yes, definitely. But, time is changing. Learn the lessons, and do what you can. Do NOT be stupid. Some women like the honest and upfront man.
Dar
I'll be going on a short trip to south China, in two weeks time, starting from Guangzhou going to CP by train, same way to SZ, cross over to ZH on ferry.
Have a couple of questions and I would appreciate for your answers either in the open or by pm.
1- Any free and working proxy server so I can stay in touch? I am not that familiar with that because I never have the need to use it outside China but I'll have to try it I guess.
2- Last time, Thanks to BSD, I went twice to a KTV. I ended up having a naked beauty in my arms there for about 3 hours without being able to exchange a single word thanks to my nil knowledge of Mandarin. I finally had a passable ST with both the chicks from the two KTVs but it isn't my cup of tea plus the fact that I'll be escorting a wing man with zero English skills as well. So my question is: Do you know of any FS sauna in Guangzhou, SZ and ZH? CP I can manage.
3- SZ seems to have two ports. Which one is the best place to take the ferry to ZH?
Thanks
PS I am posting it here because this is the most active thread of them all and also most of you have been to the other places as well.
Pointpanic
09-07-11, 15:50
For those who may not know him. DAR is one of the coolest guys to hang out with in CP or anywhere in the GD Delta. The girls can't resist his teddy bear charms. Just walking down the street on Tian Erhu they come up to hug him and rub his belly! The mommies will miss you! For a big white dude, he is disarmingly witty and understated with the Chinese girls and oh so respectful to them.
Guys can learn great lessons on how to handle asian women from him. I also know that he never over pays. DAR, thanks for all the field reports that you filed from places the average CP guy has never heard of, but that you valiantly investigated for the rest of us. We will miss your high quality pics too! Now I know why I missed you on my last two trips in May and June.
While you may not quite be in the Bill Lee legendary category (though I know that he would have loved to have hung with you, I can just see you walking through the Catacombs with us!) I will propose a bon voyage toast to you at the next BSD KTV party that I attend with some of the regulars. You can still participate and keep us interested with some of your many adventures which you haven't posted yet, and I know you have many. Now you can sort through your pics and reminisce about the good 'ole days. Till we meet again.
Your bro,
Point.
I will not be back in China anytime soon. Old boats sometime get de-comissioned. Such is life. But, I still have some of your guys as my life-long brothers. What you give to me, I will still try to give back to you.
For you guys saying how BSD suggest to offer a tip. Be your own man. You do not have to come onto here to discuss it. Do it, or do not do it. For consideration, I think it was 2002 and I was in Shenzhen. I jump into a Taxi and ask Mr. Wong / Taxi to take me to a "ZhongGuo Disco". He took me to HuangGuang border area. And a pretty girl is standing on the street. I can hear the ZhongGuo Disco near to us. She looks drunk. Stoned? Happy? I do not know. Bottom line is that for 400 RMB, she goes to my hotel (in Futian Qu / District) and SUCKS my balls dry. It was something like 7-9 blow jobs, her swallowing, in 5 hours! 400 RMB.
Yes, I can talk about the 'Good old days", but those days are always changing.
I would LOVE to be back in China, but I won't be there. You brothers can belly-ache (and should!) about BBS girls in CP asking 200 RMB.
But if you really want to learn what life is about. Forgive me. But here, back in USA. I have 2 wonderful girls happening.
.1 is 19yo Chinese, and I support her with $1000 USD / month, and we have our playtime 8 / month.
.1 is 24yo Filipina, and free time, but more of a drive from my home. Bi-sexual, and I let her worry about those arrangements.
Some guys might say I pay too much, but those living in Canada / USA I think will agree I have a good deal. If the deal is not good, then I will keep working on the business deal.
Summary. Take what you learn in China, because some day China will change, and you need to take what you learn and enjoy it where you are living. Do I dream of my days in China? Yes, definitely. But, time is changing. Learn the lessons, and do what you can. Do NOT be stupid. Some women like the honest and upfront man.
Dar
StinkyFeet
09-08-11, 06:26
- 1 is 19yo Chinese, and I support her with $1000 USD / month, and we have our playtime 8 / month.Uhm. Do you mind if I ask what area in USA are you living? 1000usd / month is incredible deal. I know another guy that pays 7000usd / month for an incredible 22yo Chinese girl. Mind you. I am in NYC and I feel everything is just over priced for what it is other then korean poontang.
Another less popular CP KTV that bros can check out is Hui Mei (&27719; &32654. KTV. Just got an update from a KTV manager that I know. Place is newly renovated. They have about 200 girls daily and yes they offer HD girls. Unfortunately very small numbers of HD girls are available at this moment. Management is trying to beef up the no of HD girls. Have not been there yet so will only provide more details once I get some time to visit it.
Hostess Category: 2•6•9/3•7•10/4•8•12 (HD)
10% service charge by KTV
Another less popular CP KTV that bros can check out is Hui Mei (&27719; &32654. KTV. Just got an update from a KTV manager that I know. Place is newly renovated. They have about 200 girls daily and yes they offer HD girls. Unfortunately very small numbers of HD girls are available at this moment.
Hostess Category: 2•6•9/3•7•10/4•8•12 (HD) Thank you for the update.
BTW, what does "HD" stand for?
And no, I don't like the trend KTVs are going. 2/6/9 or 3/7/10 for Hui Mei KTV girl? The price hikes are not good. I can see and understand for OuYa or Peninsula, but seems everyone is trying for that "new" pricing scheme.
Thank you for the update.
BTW, what does "HD" stand for?
And no, I don't like the trend KTVs are going. 2/6/9 or 3/7/10 for Hui Mei KTV girl? The price hikes are not good. I can see and understand for Ou Ya or Peninsula, but seems everyone is trying for that "new" pricing scheme.High Definition (HD) = Naked KTV.
Well the price hike is inevitable. Otherwise the lesser popular KTVs will be unable to attract and retain talents.
The only place where I still find great value is at Mayflower KTV. Some of the 2-5-8 girls on temporary tags can be pretty hot if luck is on your side. They can be easily in the 3-6-10 or 4-8-12 category if they work with monthly tags.
Point,
I thought you were the original teddy bear that every girl in CP or all of China like to come up to and hug? Reason Point is considered the ultimate teddy bear is because all of his girls end up hugging him the entire night. Entire night being, at the KTV room, in the bedroom, in the restaurant etc. Girl's can't seem to get enough of him, hence Point should be called Mr. Teddy Bear= girls love to hug.
AsnDragon.
For those who may not know him. DAR is one of the coolest guys to hang out with in CP or anywhere in the GD Delta. The girls can't resist his teddy bear charms. Just walking down the street on Tian Erhu they come up to hug him and rub his belly! The mommies will miss you! For a big white dude, he is disarmingly witty and understated with the Chinese girls and oh so respectful to them.
Guys can learn great lessons on how to handle asian women from him. I also know that he never over pays. DAR, thanks for all the field reports that you filed from places the average CP guy has never heard of, but that you valiantly investigated for the rest of us. We will miss your high quality pics too! Now I know why I missed you on my last two trips in May and June.
While you may not quite be in the Bill Lee legendary category (though I know that he would have loved to have hung with you, I can just see you walking through the Catacombs with us!) I will propose a bon voyage toast to you at the next BSD KTV party that I attend with some of the regulars. You can still participate and keep us interested with some of your many adventures which you haven't posted yet, and I know you have many. Now you can sort through your pics and reminisce about the good 'ole days. Till we meet again.
Your bro,
Point.
Bruce,
I had the same question about HD. From the pricing I appears to be Model category. However, I don't know what HD means either. I thought it was High Definition, which when translated to Chinese means "gao qing" which also means the girl would take off her clothes at some point in the KTV room during the night. But I think my interpretation is a bit far fetched.
You getting the CP blues yet? Or you still content that you left CP with a bang?
Let's party sometime soon.
AsnDragon.
Thank you for the update.
BTW, what does "HD" stand for?
And no, I don't like the trend KTVs are going. 2/6/9 or 3/7/10 for Hui Mei KTV girl? The price hikes are not good. I can see and understand for OuYa or Peninsula, but seems everyone is trying for that "new" pricing scheme.
poopbunny,
not too sure if it was you that day that i met at the ktv. but i was the one who left after not finding a girl. it was a bad night for me. i don't think it was because i couldn't find a girl, but it was because i just did a pop before ktv so it was hard for me to choose any girl that night. i had sat one girl, but she was a real cutie. before she sat down i asked the mommie if she was available for a take out. the mommie replied that she was available. but for some reason when she sat down next to me, she looked really scared of me. she kept her distance and she just felt very uncomfortable around me. then she said to me that she's not available and that her mommie lied. i let her go immediately. so that rubbed me the wrong way. then i went down to the second floor and by that time i was already in a bad mood, so i was just not really happy about the situation so i just couldn't find anyone and decided to leave.
thanks for your offer of allowing me to choose from your two girls. as i recalled you had one girl sit next to you that was actually quite cute, but she had this attitude problem. you then proceeded to let her go and she would not leave until she got paid her sitting fee of 300 rmb because she sat for more than 10 mins, even though her mommie had promised a 30 min sitting for free before you are committed to decide. thankfully bsd intervened and salvaged the situation. anyhow, i apologize to you and bsd for bailing out, i promise to stay next time to party regardless of what happens or what sour mood girls bring upon you throughout the whole process. i am glad to hear that you had a great time that evening, hope to be able to party with you next time.
in terms of the yihao sauna girls, i agree with you. the model quality of 888 is not really worth it. the 788 for the office lady group isn't worth it either. the best is to either choose from the 488 or the 588. 488 girls are usually the shortest, but 588 is the best value. overall they are prettier, not the tallest, but at least 5 feet 3 inches and taller. they have the best combination of face and body= meaning they actually have breasts. whereas the office lady group are just taller and skinny, but they don't have much of a body. the models are just 167 cm and taller, but not much of a body either. i do like how their uniforms look classy and nice. i personally think that they look nicer than the uniforms at virgin sauna.
asndragon.
we had a room on the 3rd level with a good crowd, no flower street, the girls were brought in batches. there was one i saw that i would definitely want but her tag was on the right side, so no takeout. then a petite girl in pink caught my eye. so i picked her. i think you get 10 mins worth of sitting before you had to commit to at least the start of 3-7-10. another nice one appeared but another guy in the room picked her first. on the third group i saw a tall slim one with a nice face, so she became my second. as the crowd grew the room became too small and we split into a smaller room on level 2. initially, i had real trouble choosing between the two. i was more attracted to one but the other was more affectionate. there was a guy who had real difficulty picking even 1 girl, i could not figure out why as there were at least 2 or 3 more from the preceding groups i would have picked but i already had 2. i offered him the pick of any of my 2 girls if that would make him stay but he just left. then there was a girl who just sat and did nothing, did not want to play games, etc. so she was offered 1/3 of her sitting fee to just leave. she threw a fit and argued and in the end she got nothing. bsd was also there to sort some discrepancy with the bill. as the night wore on, it became apparent i should stick with the first girl, the second girl was skinnier than i thought, plus she was constantly texting on our dime. so i cut her loose and the first girl in pink and i left for my hotel soon after. at my request bsd also told her that she should stay until 10am.
not sure if any of the guys i met is on this board, it was nice knowing you all. maybe see you again.
Bruce,
I had the same question about HD. From the pricing I appears to be Model category. However, I don't know what HD means either. I thought it was High Definition, which when translated to Chinese means "gao qing" which also means the girl would take off her clothes at some point in the KTV room during the night. But I think my interpretation is a bit far fetched.
You getting the CP blues yet? Or you still content that you left CP with a bang?
Let's party sometime soon.
AsnDragon.Hey AD!
I also am interested in the HD category, but rarely take the "high end" girls, going with the "just because it costs more, doesn't make it better philosophy"!
I am always up to try to "new" KTV, but sometimes it is difficult to get people to join in that only have a few nights as they want to go with the "sure thing" that is offered by YiHao, FuHao, etc.
It was a great party the last time you were in town, hope to catch up again soon. And Bruce's recent good fortune may rub off on us all! I only had about 6 months of the "good pricing", and am already lamenting the increases.
Sky
Sky Ryder,
Pleasure as always to party with you! The reason why you go to the certain KTVs is because BSD arranges parties at places that have good selection of girls and also places where girl don't flake off on you last minute and reject your request to go home with them at the end of the night. This is good for all of us. I mean who wants to spend the whole evening expecting to take your girl home for a good evening in bed and to be disappointed at the end when she said she can't or she won't go out with you. So here's what's going on recently:
Eurasia. KTV girls there feel like they are in the most high class KTV in town. So they carry around this "I'm too good for you" type of stuck up attitude. So sometimes they reject customers. In fact they reject customers quite often and so many brothers are left with blue balls at the end of the evening.
Mayflower- They get all of these girls from all over- BBS shops, temp girls from some random clothing shop trying their luck etc. So the name of the game is variety and so they recruit all of these girls where Mommies have no control over them (As SEAJOE has stated previously) So these untrained girls sometimes just come in for that sitting fee and ditch the customer. I personally picked two girls and I was rejected last time I was at Mayflower. I was rejected again on my last trip at Mayflower as well. So it's been two times in a row. Many brothers have blacklisted Mayflower. Although going through the line up is pretty fun and unique experience though. But it's kind of sad when you see the same girls at the line up as you did a couple months back, makes you feel that there are no fresh faces in the industry. That all these girls are just recycling around in CP.
Fuhao- Fun girls, wild girls! In fact my least two girls were just too wild for me to handle. One was hyper the other was violent! But girls usually go out with you with no major issue or problem. I think the model category is total B. S. Though! The same girls a few months back was only 2-5-8 are now 3-7-10. They aren't any taller, or prettier, but they put on a different uniform and all of sudden they are a higher category. The model category has doubled their population. Before you saw about 20 girls, not you see like 40-50 girls posing as models now. At any other KTV they would never pass as model quality, but in Fuhao I guess anything goes.
Yihao- girls are pretty! I mean so many pretty girls! Their attitudes are better than Eurasia, and the quality is almost, but not quite on par with Eurasia girl's quality. But very comparable. Lots of models are not really 168 cm or taller but are still considered models at Yihao. Overall, Yihao has the best girls and service in CP so far in my personal opinion. The room fees are not outrageous like Eurasia and the girls are very good. Lots of pretty girls.
Manhattan- Not that many girls, but rooms are cheap, beer is cheap and girls are cheap. Most of the girls about 80% or 90% are all 2-5-8. Nothing's changed. Their selection is lacking, but most of the girls there do go out with customers. There are those wearing a red lanyard around their neck all the time, meaning they only sit with you and nothing more than that. They are usually the prettier girls too. I think they do that to lure in the customers or something. It's such a tease when you see a pretty girl you want to choose, but they have a red lanyard that signifies they are not convenient. But the Dongbei Mommie group has moved from Lion Hotel KTV to Manhattan now. So if you are into Dongbei girls, they have a whole group there.
Penn- No flower street, but girls are decent. Some are real lookers, but most are just ok. I feel like the girl quality has been going down for the past couple of years. Most girls are trying to upcharge with 3-7-10 white dress uniforms, where a few months back they were only 2-5-8. Decent quality girls, it's just annoying with the whole room to room selection, where if you are lucky you are one of the early rooms to view the girls, but if you are unlucky all the good ones are taken by other rooms before the line up shows up at your room.
The old three- Miraton, Hui Hua and Hui Mei KTV. Those three hotels, no matter how much they try to renovate will never catch up with the other KTVs in town. They offer no competitive advantage. The only thing they got working for them is their location is really good. But in the KTV business location is not that big of a deal so long as it's within CP. These establishments have been trying to recruit girls for a long time, but they can never seem to stock up well enough pass the 500 girl mark to even compete with all the other famous KTV establishments. DJ's at these three establishments are prettier than the working girls. In fact the Mommies are prettier than the working girls at these three places. You might be able to find a gem, but with so many guys all eyeing that gem, it's pretty hard to be able to pick a good girl in these three places.
Of course there are other places not mentioned: Lihao, Haixia, Jiayi, Jin Lang, Xiang Ying, Walter, Swan Lake, Clipper, Versaille and about 10 other more notable places around town. Too many to list. But the major ones are already talked about. All the rest are just not worthy of mentioning.
AsnDragon.
Hey AD!
I also am interested in the HD category, but rarely take the "high end" girls, going with the "just because it costs more, doesn't make it better philosophy"!
I am always up to try to "new" KTV, but sometimes it is difficult to get people to join in that only have a few nights as they want to go with the "sure thing" that is offered by YiHao, FuHao, etc.
It was a great party the last time you were in town, hope to catch up again soon. And Bruce's recent good fortune may rub off on us all! I only had about 6 months of the "good pricing", and am already lamenting the increases.
Sky
Stinkyfeet,
I personally think the Korean Poontang in Flushing apartments are still overpriced. $160 to $200 per pop is still considered expensive in my book. Especially when most of the korean girls are just results of plastic surgery. Their bolt on boob jobs are rock hard and they all seem to have the same looking eyes and nose after their countless surgeries. I'm so tired of girls who have gone under the knife that even if they decreased their price by 50% I am not so inclined to partake on Korean girls anymore.
Chinese girls are still my cup of tea.
And by the way, I don't know how you get a 22 year old Chinese girl for $1, 000 USD a month in the US of A, unless she's not very good looking?
AsnDragon.
Uhm. Do you mind if I ask what area in USA are you living? 1000usd / month is incredible deal. I know another guy that pays 7000usd / month for an incredible 22yo Chinese girl. Mind you. I am in NYC and I feel everything is just over priced for what it is other then korean poontang.
Sky Ryder,
I mean who wants to spend the whole evening expecting to take your girl home for a good evening in bed and to be disappointed at the end when she said she can't or she won't go out with you. So here's what's going on recently:AD,
I agree with your assessment for the most part and also the reason why I go to the "best" places. There is a certain "safety" factor involved, and I have to admit that I have had some really fun parties at the "BIG 3".
We went to Manhattan one night early this year, Bruce Tea was along, and had an absolute blast. Yes the girls weren't as pretty, the one model somebody picked was the only "Bitchy" girl in the room. What they lacked in appearance, the girls made up for in energy and willingness to perform and it was a good night. I took a gal home that had one goal in mind and that was to make sure that I wanted to keep her all night and be sad when she left. She was VERY successful!
One of my personal favs is the Penn, again, your point is well taken, but I have to say 3 of the top 5 KTV girls I have had, are Penn gals. Maybe I just get lucky, but I will take it.
I only been to Eurasia twice and while I won' t say never, it will take a lot to get me to return. I can find "attitude" in a lot of places and don't need to pay premium prices to be "dissed"!
It is kind of funny, but I run into a lot of girls the work at Miraton in my building. I want to go check it our sometime, just to see if they are as much fun as they look like they would be, plus having the convenience factor.
In any event, I will say that I really enjoy the CP "scene" and look forward to many more adventures. I have tried to explain it to my friends in the "real world", but there is no way to do it justice. It is something that must be experienced for sure!
See you soon!
[QUOTE So the name of the game is variety and so they recruit all of these girls where Mommies have no control over them (As SEAJOE has stated previously) So these untrained girls sometimes just come in for that sitting fee and ditch the customer. Although going through the line up is pretty fun and unique experience though. But it's kind of sad when you see the same girls at the line up as you did a couple months back, makes you feel that there are no fresh faces in the industry.
AsnDragon.[/QUOTE]
I REALLY liked the policy that was in effect for a while, where the mommies weren't allowed to "throw" the girls at you. I've noticed they have reverted to the "old" ways now. At YiHao the other night, the mommies stood quietly for about 10 mins and left a brother alone to choose, and then as if someone sent a magic signal, they all started with the grab a girl and stick her in you face routine. My last trip to Mayflower I noticed the policy had relaxed again as well. I have gotten to the point that I ask a girl if she will go out before I even sit her, it doesn't guarantee anything, but makes the odds better. Truth is, if I have to "beg" her to go I am not interested anyway.
I too, have gone home alone my share of times, a couple of months ago I was starting to feel like,"Rain out".
By the way, if you see the same girls. A lot, just means you have been there too many times! I know when I go to FuHao, I get the feeling that I have sat half of them at some time.
Hey all. First post here. I've only recently started punting (what you guys call Mongering) , and I stumbled upon mention of CP in another forum, and since then I've hit the jackpot here. So much (quality) information! Cheers guys, especially AsnDragon, BruceTea and Sky Rider.
I'll be making a stop at CP during December for a few days (part of Asia trip including Korea and Japan). First time to China for me. I'll be going with a friend who speaks a bit of Canto, and I can speak a bit of Korean. I've already contacted BSD about using his valuable services, just need to finalize our itinerary.
Keep the quality information flowing guys. And if anyone wants to go hunting with us in December send me a PM. Only if you're cool though :P
It is kind of funny, but I run into a lot of girls the work at Miraton in my building. I want to go check it our sometime, just to see if they are as much fun as they look like they would be, plus having the convenience factor.Have you not been to Miraton KTV yet? I'd imagine you have by now. Haha. I think there was a party there a day after you left. I haven't really paid attention, but I don't think many reports have been made about Miraton KTV. Most have been about the hotel, as it is one of the iconic hotels in CP.
I have read one report a long time ago in another site, where the guy had a great time and got a gal who stayed with him until his teary departure from CP. But I'm really not sure. I, myself, had a gal who told me she used to work at Miraton KTV, but moved to the Regency KTV when I met her. She was indeed hot and very well behaved, as she could drink and flirt and hostess. But as for partying and dancing and getting crazy, I could not see her doing that. She's more of an eye candy. And yeah, she lives (or lived) in that area's building which was convenient cause she was one of my favorite regulars. But that's my experience with anything Miraton. Please report if anyone has anything.
To supplement AsnDragon's excellent synopsis of the more well-known KTVs, I'd like to add that I love going to the less-well known ones as well.
Li Hao (next to Mayflower KTV) is fun. I've had very good luck there and I do like the atmosphere and girls' attitudes. Less rules, more fun, and most work harder cause they want you to take them home.
HaiXia KTV's selection sucked for me, but I had a good time overall and the girls that were picked had a good attitude to the guys all night long. But one reservation is that some girls don't go out so who knows.
Amazon KTV. Never been here myself, but my gal worked there and I got to give it props for taking care of my gal when I was not taking care of her.
New Century KTV. One of the wildest KTVs from reputation and reports from locals. No comment, but when I did go two years ago, I had a blast with an assistant mommy who I still keep in touch with. This place has a "reputation" but still has a special place in my memory.
Hui Hua sucked for me. Boring and the gals were so passive. I think they did a better job with their Sauna than their KTV.
Oh, and Regency KTV. The times I went there I had some affectionate and clingy gals. DJs are hot but the KTV rooms look bright and too "formal" to party. It has more of a high-class feel than one where you can dance and get buzzed in.
Oh, and Jing Nang....fck, this place is awesome. I've had like 5 girls and all have been repeats for me. These gals are wild and crazy. I gotta say this would be my favorite KTV if I came often enough. I guess looks-wise, you can debate whether they are avg looking or not as pretty or above avg, but in bed...these gals perform to please! I gotta say this place rocks.
In any case, the high profile KTVs are pretty much as reported (but depends on the guy as well) but the lesser heard KTVs can be heck fun if you go with the right group (BSD's) or woo your date for an unforgettable night.
On my last trip I stayed at the Walter (Hua Tai) Hotel. The rooms were really good.
No I wonder if any of you guys ever tried the in-house KTV?
Greetings from Konsul
poopbunny,
thanks for your offer of allowing me to choose from your two girls. as i recalled you had one girl sit next to you that was actually quite cute, but she had this attitude problem. you then proceeded to let her go and she would not leave until she got paid her sitting fee of 300 rmb because she sat for more than 10 mins, even though her mommie had promised a 30 min sitting for free before you are committed to decide. thankfully bsd intervened and salvaged the situation. anyhow, i apologize to you and bsd for bailing out, i promise to stay next time to party regardless of what happens or what sour mood girls bring upon you throughout the whole process. i am glad to hear that you had a great time that evening, hope to be able to party with you next time.
asndragon.
hi asndragon
look forward to the next time.
Out of CP they have frequent vans leaving for HKIA from HuiHua hotel and ABC Coffee. You can contact the ticket office in the hotel for the times, but they are frequent departures. I would give myself at least 3 hours before you need to be at the airport. Most of the time it only takes about 2-2:30 hours for the trip, but you never know about some moron riding in your van that forgets their passport or tries to "smuggle" something across the border, or just a random check at the border. It cost 200rmb and they stop at a couple of the hotels if necessary to pick up passengers. You need to make a reservation / buy a ticket in advance so they will reserve your seat.Sky,
Are there vans as well from Guangzhou City, Tianhe area? I want to carry some large boxes without having to unload then at the border? Any suggestions are appreciated!
PC out
SE Asia Joe
09-11-11, 06:28
Sky,
Are there vans as well from Guangzhou City, Tianhe area? I want to carry some large boxes without having to unload then at the border? Any suggestions are appreciated!
PC outI would suggest that you should first and foremost ask your concierge or the front desk of your hotel for this information. Lots of guys go to the Canton Trade fair and carry back tons of goods so they should be able to advise you better.
And as far as van services are concerned, I think its a bit of a crap shoot as to whether they make you go across customs on foot or nicely in the van. And believe it all depends on the number of people in the van itself. So if you really need to NOT have to get off at the border (s) , then I believe you'd need to hire a van by yourself and that's going to cost you!
Another suggestion is for you to enquire at the hotel for a package delivery service for you. Again, a lot of guys I know need to do this for the amount of stuff they bring back home.
SEAJ
I would suggest that you should first and foremost ask your concierge or the front desk of your hotel for this information. Lots of guys go to the Canton Trade fair and carry back tons of goods so they should be able to advise you better.
And as far as van services are concerned, I think its a bit of a crap shoot as to whether they make you go across customs on foot or nicely in the van. And believe it all depends on the number of people in the van itself. So if you really need to NOT have to get off at the border (s) , then I believe you'd need to hire a van by yourself and that's going to cost you!
Another suggestion is for you to enquire at the hotel for a package delivery service for you. Again, a lot of guys I know need to do this for the amount of stuff they bring back home.
SEAJThanks Joe, I will ask when I am there. Delivery to HK by a courier is not reliable enough at this point as I have had goods stopped at customs for no apparent reason. The fucking Chinese customs are too bored and full after dinner with nothing else better to do as we say. LOL.
For the time being, I'm enjoying all the pussy Macau offers.
PC out
was this the night where bsd picked a girl for a bro then ask us other bros to chip in for the sitting fee because tr bro didn't want the girl? bsd if you are reading this. i repeat do not pick girls in advance for a bro and make others pay for the reject!
poopbunny,
not too sure if it was you that day that i met at the ktv. but i was the one who left after not finding a girl. it was a bad night for me. i don't think it was because i couldn't find a girl, but it was because i just did a pop before ktv so it was hard for me to choose any girl that night. i had sat one girl, but she was a real cutie. before she sat down i asked the mommie if she was available for a take out. the mommie replied that she was available. but for some reason when she sat down next to me, she looked really scared of me. she kept her distance and she just felt very uncomfortable around me. then she said to me that she's not available and that her mommie lied. i let her go immediately. so that rubbed me the wrong way. then i went down to the second floor and by that time i was already in a bad mood, so i was just not really happy about the situation so i just couldn't find anyone and decided to leave.
thanks for your offer of allowing me to choose from your two girls. as i recalled you had one girl sit next to you that was actually quite cute, but she had this attitude problem. you then proceeded to let her go and she would not leave until she got paid her sitting fee of 300 rmb because she sat for more than 10 mins, even though her mommie had promised a 30 min sitting for free before you are committed to decide. thankfully bsd intervened and salvaged the situation. anyhow, i apologize to you and bsd for bailing out, i promise to stay next time to party regardless of what happens or what sour mood girls bring upon you throughout the whole process. i am glad to hear that you had a great time that evening, hope to be able to party with you next time.
in terms of the yihao sauna girls, i agree with you. the model quality of 888 is not really worth it. the 788 for the office lady group isn't worth it either. the best is to either choose from the 488 or the 588. 488 girls are usually the shortest, but 588 is the best value. overall they are prettier, not the tallest, but at least 5 feet 3 inches and taller. they have the best combination of face and body= meaning they actually have breasts. whereas the office lady group are just taller and skinny, but they don't have much of a body. the models are just 167 cm and taller, but not much of a body either. i do like how their uniforms look classy and nice. i personally think that they look nicer than the uniforms at virgin sauna.
asndragon.
cp141,
i'm not sure if this is the night or not as i did not stay that night. however, bsd dave will only pre-pick a girl when a client / bro requests to have a girl pre-picked for them if they are still in transit and are going to make it to the ktv late for some reason. for that particular night, i believe specifically that poopbunny had asked bsd dave to pick for him because he was coming late and poopbunny had let her go and paid her 100 rmb and was ok with it. so i do not believe that what you described had happened that night.
in fact i don't believe there's been a time where bsd dave had asked the whole group to chip in on a girl's sitting fee, unless she's a girl who everyone wanted to play with interchangeable throughout the night.
in fact, bsd does have a good eye as to what bros tastes and preferences are, and there have been many a time where bsd had introduced a girl to the party where i had ended up liking that girl more than the girls i had picked at the ktv that night myself.
asndragon.
was this the night where bsd picked a girl for a bro then ask us other bros to chip in for the sitting fee because tr bro didn't want the girl? bsd if you are reading this. i repeat do not pick girls in advance for a bro and make others pay for the reject!
Hua Tai Rooms (walter Hotel) are pretty nice for the price and location. The beds are rather stiff so it makes it easier to have sex on, especially when the girl is on top you get the feeling of the full penetration. The breakfast is also one of the best around that area in my opinion as well. The footie in the hotel is a semi sleazy footie where, most of the girls, not all will give you an extra BJ or HJ for additional fees or added hours or both. It really depends on their mood.
However, I have not stayed in Walter Hotel for years. Last time I went to their KTV, all the girls were bad quality. However, all the mommies at Walter KTV are HOT! So you end up hitting on the mommies more than the working girls. This doesn't happen often but at some KTVs they just have hotter Mommies than their girls. That's usually a bad sign. So many people skip this location for partying it up.
Just my opinion.
(Now when I say just my opinion, it's not "just my personal opinion" so this does not violate OAH and SEAJOE's copyrighted slogan)
"Every time you masturbate, you save at least 200 RMB"
AsnDragon.
On my last trip I stayed at the Walter (Hua Tai) Hotel. The rooms were really good.
No I wonder if any of you guys ever tried the in-house KTV?
Greetings from Konsul
I was thinking about it and I realize that the BBS this last trip was actually quite good! The quality of the girls was really spectacular. I don't know if it was the Shenzhen Universidad Games that caused a huge crackdown in the rest of Guangdong and all of the girls started flooding to CP to find temp jobs at BBS or not, but I really enjoyed the BBS this trip. Even behind Hui Mei at Xiao Ying's place, I got a tall beautiful girl who use to work at Hui Hua KTV and BruceTea can attest to the fact that she was Hot! Sure she had a bit of an attitude, but she was smoking hot! I usually never find any really good looker at the BBS behind Hui Mei, but I think I hit the jackpot on this one!
Then the BBS at the Swan Lake Area is just terrific as well. I remember a few months back, the quality of girls were so awful that I could not choose any girl I wanted to take back that I had to do Sauna Sessions for the last leg of my trip. For this trip, there were so many girls I wanted to do in all the BBS that I just simply didn't have enough time to partake on all of the beauties out there. Sure the BBS girls might be a bit rough around the edges, but honestly they have their own little sweet charm. In some ways they are less spoiled than the KTV girls and a bit less mechanical than Sauna girls. They are less mannered in some sense and less refined, but sometimes when you are horny and you just want to get a pop out it's a great. But sometimes you end up finding a gem amongst all of the rest of them and you decide that paying an overnight fee to take them out and have fun for only 600 RMB is not a bad deal. Your overnight fee also depends on how well of a customer you are. If you are SEAJOE or some other VIP Monger, you get some special discounts that the rest of us normal guys don't get.
Xiao Deng Zi Mommie had the best looking girls this trip. I mean they were terrific. I was calling her phone number for new girls all the time and about 80% of the girls were fantastic and never disappointed me. However there was this one incident where I called ahead to reserve a girl and I said I'd be there in 25 mins. She said she'll help me reserve her and when a customer came in and took her she just allowed it to happen and left me out to dry! I was pissed at her and blacklisted her for 4 days and she apologized each day for it and I reluctantly went back to her shop. I forgave her because she introduced me to a real beauty from Hubei, Jingzhou. She had the nicest skin, a cute face with a sweet smile. She had an awesome body, it was very athletic because she use to do track and field. But still no tummy and large breasts! Too bad she already has a boyfriend in CP, but she was a real gem. Forgot her name, but she's like the only girl who looks athletic and has an ass. Single eyelid beauty- and she doesn't have many girls from Hubei and she's one of them. Most of her girls are from Hunan.
So I was pleasantly surprised at the quality and choice this trip at the BBS. I thought I was going to have trouble picking this time, but the only trouble I had was- I didn't have enough days in CP. Isn't that always the reoccuring problem?
AsnDragon
Li Hao (next to Mayflower KTV) is fun. I've had very good luck there and I do like the atmosphere and girls' attitudes. Less rules, more fun, and most work harder cause they want you to take them home.
HaiXia KTV's selection sucked for me, but I had a good time overall and the girls that were picked had a good attitude to the guys all night long. But one reservation is that some girls don't go out so who knows.
Amazon KTV. Never been here myself, but my gal worked there and I got to give it props for taking care of my gal when I was not taking care of her.
New Century KTV. One of the wildest KTVs from reputation and reports from locals. No comment, but when I did go two years ago, I had a blast with an assistant mommy who I still keep in touch with. This place has a "reputation" but still has a special place in my memory.
Hui Hua sucked for me. Boring and the gals were so passive. I think they did a better job with their Sauna than their KTV.That is why to each his own. I went to LiHao 3 times and every time was a disaster, too expensive and low quality for me.
Haixia on the other hand was great selection, not my normal strikezone, but really fun and cute girls. There are few model or pretty girls here.
But alot of cute girls ready to party in the KTV and bedroom.
Amazon KTV, I have twice picked a girl with BO from there, she didn't have it until we were in the KTV room, but seriously.
Where are they getting them. They should have a mandatory deodorant rule there. Definitely can have some fun there.
And others had better choices. Note I did have one girl run away from me after being picked in line. I think their control.
Of their girls is limited because they are often very new girls. Note when they did the nude dancing before they scolded them.
To strip, the managers' previous MO at the last naked KTV place.
Huihua I agree, the KTV girls have attitudes and I think bad service, though good service can be had. I know a few girls.
That have floated through here from Eurasia, Walter, Fuhao and elsewhere meaning they must have short passes when they.
Want to pump up the girl quantites, resulting in lower quality of service.
HH sauna though needs a renovation is still for me one of the best, most reliable in CP. I wish they had the soapie bed like Meibao or.
SY, but still good service 90% of the time and the managers listen if you have bad service.
FUHAO.
AsnDragon. Note there are about 30 models, the other 'class' is the big boob class, meaning they have big boobs (I think in blue)
And that isn't a bad class to have, although they are at a higher rate (369?).
However, I have not stayed in Walter Hotel for years. Last time I went to their KTV, all the girls were bad quality. However, all the mommies at Walter KTV are HOT! So you end up hitting on the mommies more than the working girls. This doesn't happen often but at some KTVs they just have hotter Mommies than their girls. That's usually a bad sign. So many people skip this location for partying it up.Rockstar was assistant mommie there. Her girls were ugly. Nuff said.
Yes lots of hot mommies and ugly girls, dirty footie is okay but I want them to strip down for a nudie footie.
Simply better KTVs out there.
Was this the night where BSD picked a girl for a bro then ask us other bros to chip in for the sitting fee because tr bro didn't want the girl? BSD if you are reading this. I repeat do not pick girls in advance for a bro and make others pay for the reject!CP,
I have partied a lot with BSD's groups, and would be really surprised to hear this happening. Not saying it didn't, just that I would be surprised. Now, I have been in the room on a couple of occasions when some guy would be coming late and ask BSD to pick for him, then he shows up two hours late and doesn't like the girl. (in one case I thought the guy was nuts, the girl was a treat) and then he starts saying that he doesn't want to pay for the girl because he doesn't like her and wants another one.
In the end I decided to take her and pay her sitting fee because I didn't want the issue to bring down the mood of the room and it turned out okay. I just thought that this was one instance when someone should realize that you can't ask someone to make a choice for you and then complain afterwards. The other thing is that if you are in a room with a bunch of guys, how you behave can also effect the way the night goes for some others in the room.
This has not been a big issue, because as someone said BSD has a habit of making excellent choices, but on the rare occasion when it doesn't "click" I think guys should pay the sitting fee and keep looking! Of course I could be wrong!
Sky
ManonsanBoy
09-12-11, 21:59
After having been closed for 40 plus days for the wretched universaide shit, saunas opened bloomed again.
She was 5'6" and a great body with a 36 itis. I immediately picked her despite the line up not completed.
Started with usual shower, body scrub, body shampoo, licking when wet and this time, unusually, toesucking whilst hand job. I thought, this is going to be a good day.
Dried up. Usual attention to the ears. Finger and toe nails clipped experted. This one was unusual because she then put her lips right next to mine as if to enquire. I pursed my lips and she started kissing me. Licking whole body, both front and back. Then she focused attention on my cock and started expertly and smoothly deep throating me almost to the point of come. She then presented her pussy for a 69. Who am I to say no? Licking made her moan and her vagina to tent. I turned her over and DATV until she comes after her vagina tented and farted (with my finger rocking her cervix gently) so it must have been real. Then I slipped into her after hurried capping and gently brought her to another orgasm. I turned her around and put 2 pillows under her pelvis and pounded her pussy. I noticed her arse hole was dilating so without a pause entered her anally. She barely complained. Just saying do not stop! I did not and shot a load. One of the best fucks ever and I am nearing 1000 different ladies! Just want to share.
X.
Just my POV.
OAHOAH.
Please check your mailbox.
BR.
Whomer
Jude Bright
09-12-11, 23:40
After having been closed for 40 plus days for the wretched universaide shit, saunas opened bloomed again.
She was 5'6" and a great body with a 36 itis. I immediately picked her despite the line up not completed.
Started with usual shower, body scrub, body shampoo, licking when wet and this time, unusually, toesucking whilst hand job. I thought, this is going to be a good day.
Dried up. Usual attention to the ears. Finger and toe nails clipped experted. This one was unusual because she then put her lips right next to mine as if to enquire. I pursed my lips and she started kissing me. Licking whole body, both front and back. Then she focused attention on my cock and started expertly and smoothly deep throating me almost to the point of come. She then presented her pussy for a 69. Who am I to say no? Licking made her moan and her vagina to tent. I turned her over and DATV until she comes after her vagina tented and farted (with my finger rocking her cervix gently) so it must have been real. Then I slipped into her after hurried capping and gently brought her to another orgasm. I turned her around and put 2 pillows under her pelvis and pounded her pussy. I noticed her arse hole was dilating so without a pause entered her anally. She barely complained. Just saying do not stop! I did not and shot a load. One of the best fucks ever and I am nearing 1000 different ladies! Just want to share.Do you remember her name and care to share?
Thanks.
JB
Jettsetter
09-13-11, 01:15
CP,
I have partied a lot with BSD's groups, and would be really surprised to hear this happening. Not saying it didn't, just that I would be surprised. Now, I have been in the room on a couple of occasions when some guy would be coming late and ask BSD to pick for him, then he shows up two hours late and doesn't like the girl. (in one case I thought the guy was nuts, the girl was a treat) and then he starts saying that he doesn't want to pay for the girl because he doesn't like her and wants another one.
In the end I decided to take her and pay her sitting fee because I didn't want the issue to bring down the mood of the room and it turned out okay. I just thought that this was one instance when someone should realize that you can't ask someone to make a choice for you and then complain afterwards. The other thing is that if you are in a room with a bunch of guys, how you behave can also effect the way the night goes for some others in the room.
This has not been a big issue, because as someone said BSD has a habit of making excellent choices, but on the rare occasion when it doesn't "click" I think guys should pay the sitting fee and keep looking! Of course I could be wrong!
SkyI have to agree with Sky. I think that CP141, you may have your facts wrong on this one, or may have been miscommunicated relative to what happened. Again, I could be wrong, but it doesn't sound like a practice that BSD would engage in. Simply put, I would gather that if BSD was picking for someone, he would just pay her sitting fee and collect it from that brother at a later time for skipping out. I personally know of a few instances where I have seen it happen. BSD sometimes even doesn't even ask for the money back from the punter who left him hanging to dry, which I told him was way above the call of his duty. Now what I CAN see is the following scenario. BSD picks for someone, they show up and not like her OR they do'nt show up, and BSD asks anyone if anyone LIKES that girl and wants to play with her. Leaving her open for anybody to take home. This, in no uncertain terms is an OPTION. It may be that you interpretted that OPTION as being worked into the bill, but rest assured, I am 100% positive that is not his practice (at least in the many many times I've partied with BSD). In short, if you really liked the extra girl, you could take her home and of course, you'd be responsible for her fee. If you decided not to, then you wouldn't get charged, BSD would pay for the sitting fee and collect it from the punter.
If you were at Mayflower on August 24, and you are speaking of this situation, this is EXACTLY what happened. I think also again at the Penn maybe last week or so (August 30)? I know that one of the guys didn't show up or didn't like his gal, and BSD made the announcement that she was "available". But my no means did he try to split her fees with everyone else.
So at the end of the day, perhaps a miscommunication in what you thought went on. I personally am sure that he doesn't do anything unfair, and is up front about his hosting fees. He actually watches the bill very closely and saw an instance at the Mayflower where he had to chew the manager out for some unscrupulous practices. Not straight up cheating our room, but basically taking the "free bonus credit for alcohol" that any manager has the ability to give our room due to the high amount of the bill and keeping it for himself without ever letting us know that this was a possibility. BSD, having worked with this manager for quite a while, chewed this guy out, considering BSD fed this guy a ton of business. Not sure what the outcome was, but it was pretty heated. He went through te bill very carefully and discovered this very odd notation. Which led to the discovery.
-Jett
Visited Tian Hao Hotel Sauna last night. Enjoyed 839 from Hunan for 120 mins. Nice soapy table massagi to boot.
She had nice A cups and very toned body. BBBJ was very good. Fucked her about 45 mins and then rest whewwww Whatta workout LOL.
Anyway, after all the cat bathng etc, time ran out. Fastest 2 hours in history but very nice.
PC out
Nope, generally, he has taken care of me pretty well, and me the same way with paying for his sitting fee for all the girls he sat and I even paid for his massages at Pozulim. But asking me and other bros to split up the cost for a girl he picked for another bro was uncalled for. I don't lie and don't even try to gang up on me on this one. You may want to ask him for details. I ended up not paying for the reject but the fact that I was being asked for to pay for some other bros girl that I don't know was uncalled for.
I have to agree with Sky. I think that CP141, you may have your facts wrong on this one, or may have been miscommunicated relative to what happened. Again, I could be wrong, but it doesn't sound like a practice that BSD would engage in. Simply put, I would gather that if BSD was picking for someone, he would just pay her sitting fee and collect it from that brother at a later time for skipping out. I personally know of a few instances where I have seen it happen. BSD sometimes even doesn't even ask for the money back from the punter who left him hanging to dry, which I told him was way above the call of his duty. Now what I CAN see is the following scenario. BSD picks for someone, they show up and not like her OR they do'nt show up, and BSD asks anyone if anyone LIKES that girl and wants to play with her. Leaving her open for anybody to take home. This, in no uncertain terms is an OPTION. It may be that you interpretted that OPTION as being worked into the bill, but rest assured, I am 100% positive that is not his practice (at least in the many many times I've partied with BSD). In short, if you really liked the extra girl, you could take her home and of course, you'd be responsible for her fee. If you decided not to, then you wouldn't get charged, BSD would pay for the sitting fee and collect it from the punter.
If you were at Mayflower on August 24, and you are speaking of this situation, this is EXACTLY what happened. I think also again at the Penn maybe last week or so (August 30)? I know that one of the guys didn't show up or didn't like his gal, and BSD made the announcement that she was "available". But my no means did he try to split her fees with everyone else.
So at the end of the day, perhaps a miscommunication in what you thought went on. I personally am sure that he doesn't do anything unfair, and is up front about his hosting fees. He actually watches the bill very closely and saw an instance at the Mayflower where he had to chew the manager out for some unscrupulous practices. Not straight up cheating our room, but basically taking the "free bonus credit for alcohol" that any manager has the ability to give our room due to the high amount of the bill and keeping it for himself without ever letting us know that this was a possibility. BSD, having worked with this manager for quite a while, chewed this guy out, considering BSD fed this guy a ton of business. Not sure what the outcome was, but it was pretty heated. He went through te bill very carefully and discovered this very odd notation. Which led to the discovery.
-Jett
Scanner Scanner
09-13-11, 08:35
The week before hitting CP is always the hardest. BSD, I'm coming cya soon!
SS
ManonsanBoy
09-13-11, 10:40
Do you remember her name and care to share?
Thanks.
JB555; do not know her name.
i can't remember how she ended up in our group but she was not mine. i was sitting near the corner with 2 girls, each on either side of me. that girl was sitting between another guy sitting closest to the door (other than asndragon who was standing most of the time) and the girl on my left. i think she was with that guy closest to the door but she wasn't in the party mood and refused to sit with bsd. occasionally she chatted with the girl on my left, which i ended up letting go, although she looked good, her attitude sucked. it gave me the impression that maybe they knew each other. i paid the girl i let go directly myself the 300 sitting fee. at some point, i can't remember when, because most of the conversation was going on in putongwhah (which i don't understand) about that girl and i gathered from the tone that there was a disagreement of some sort. i thought i had asked bsd if he needed me to cover part of her fee (although i did not speak a word to her) , it seemed important to me at the time that everyone had a good time and i didn't want anyone's evening to be ruined over a few bucks. but bsd said no need because she was getting the boot with 0rmb and justifiably so. if a girl just wants to sit there, make no effort and pull a long face, then she should not be paid.
i left early, about 10pm. i paid bsd my share and rounded it up the the nearest 100. bsd said that he will remember and apply credit to the next day's party, but i said he could keep the change.
i think the padding of bill's on the ktv goes on quite regularly because they think that over time customers lose track of how much is consumed and they think the customers won't notice especially if they are drunk. that is where bsd comes in. on that evening i believe they tried to comp a free whiskey that never arrived and ended up in some manager's personal stash or something along those lines.
cp141,
i'm not sure if this is the night or not as i did not stay that night. however, bsd dave will only pre-pick a girl when a client / bro requests to have a girl pre-picked for them if they are still in transit and are going to make it to the ktv late for some reason. for that particular night, i believe specifically that poopbunny had asked bsd dave to pick for him because he was coming late and poopbunny had let her go and paid her 100 rmb and was ok with it. so i do not believe that what you described had happened that night.
in fact i don't believe there's been a time where bsd dave had asked the whole group to chip in on a girl's sitting fee, unless she's a girl who everyone wanted to play with interchangeable throughout the night.
in fact, bsd does have a good eye as to what bros tastes and preferences are, and there have been many a time where bsd had introduced a girl to the party where i had ended up liking that girl more than the girls i had picked at the ktv that night myself.
asndragon.
was this the night at penn where the room was too full then bsd had to open a separate ktv room for us? anyways this is not a complaint. i will surely use bsd next time around and i have plenty of newbie abc customers to introduce to him. i just don't think he should prepick girls for bros at a mixed ktv sessions anymore due to the possibilty of running in to situations like this. if the bro refuses to pay the sitting later that's like opening a can of worms. if i was host i would not prepick a girl for a bro coming late or whatever. doesn't matter if i know their taste 100. it's just sensible not to do so. that's all i have to say.
i can't remember how she ended up in our group but she was not mine. i was sitting near the corner with 2 girls, each on either side of me. that girl was sitting between another guy sitting closest to the door (other than asndragon who was standing most of the time) and the girl on my left. i think she was with that guy closest to the door but she wasn't in the party mood and refused to sit with bsd. occasionally she chatted with the girl on my left, which i ended up letting go, although she looked good, her attitude sucked. it gave me the impression that maybe they knew each other. i paid the girl i let go directly myself the 300 sitting fee. at some point, i can't remember when, because most of the conversation was going on in putongwhah (which i don't understand) about that girl and i gathered from the tone that there was a disagreement of some sort. i thought i had asked bsd if he needed me to cover part of her fee (although i did not speak a word to her) , it seemed important to me at the time that everyone had a good time and i didn't want anyone's evening to be ruined over a few bucks. but bsd said no need because she was getting the boot with 0rmb and justifiably so. if a girl just wants to sit there, make no effort and pull a long face, then she should not be paid.
i left early, about 10pm. i paid bsd my share and rounded it up the the nearest 100. bsd said that he will remember and apply credit to the next day's party, but i said he could keep the change.
i think the padding of bill's on the ktv goes on quite regularly because they think that over time customers lose track of how much is consumed and they think the customers won't notice especially if they are drunk. that is where bsd comes in. on that evening i believe they tried to comp a free whiskey that never arrived and ended up in some manager's personal stash or something along those lines.
LovingAsia
09-13-11, 14:02
Hi all.
From Dongguan train station, bus #1 goes by Yalan hotel. But does this bus pass by swan lake hotel, and clipper?
I was thinking about it and I realize that the BBS this last trip was actually quite good! The quality of the girls was really spectacular. Even behind Hui Mei at Xiao Ying's place, I got a tall beautiful girl who use to work at Hui Hua KTV and BruceTea can attest to the fact that she was Hot! Sure she had a bit of an attitude, but she was smoking hot! I usually never find any really good looker at the BBS behind Hui Mei, but I think I hit the jackpot on this one!Yeah, this was a story I couldn't believe if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
What happened was one afternoon, Asn myself and docc was having lunch near Virgin Hotel. Afterwards, Asn and I decided to check out the BBSs behind Hui Mei cause we haven't been there in like 4 months. First BBS had 2 girls. It was funny as sh-t cause they were both fat and ugly. The mommy was apologizing and saying business was really bad (no sh-t, we got eyes.). Anyway, next door down we saw like 4 girls and again, it was go-in, look, get-out. Then we went to some hotel (not Jin Mei) but kinda behind the Oyster BBQ place. Normally, I would NOT venture there, but Asn and I had each other's back and so we took a look. I think we were taken to the 3rd floor and went into a normal hotel room. They had like 8 girls and one of them was pretty ok and Asn wanted to get her. But some guy snatched her and they went to a room upstairs so we got the mommy's number and said we'll be back.
Outside, we went to that 2nd BBS where they had 4 girls and the mommy said there's a 165 cm girl who's hot and a KTV gal. Yeah right, we thought. She showed her picture in a crappy 100 rmb phone and again we said "Yeah, but who knows what she actually looks like." The mommy said she's not at work yet, so she will call us as soon as the supposed-hottie gets in. Ok, whatever, we thought.
We went back to SWL for some more hunting and the mommy called. The mommy said the girl is there, but eating and will be an hour late. Asn told her to get the girl over ASAP or else we're going to the KTV and it'll be too late. Anyway, we went to Asn's room and waited. 15 then 30 minutes. Asn called again and pushed the mommy. At this point, I was very skeptical and I told Asn that the girl probably is ugly. Why would a hot gal who's 165 cm be working at a BBS and at such a sh-tty BBS behind Hui Mei?
Anyway, we were pretty much expecting the worst when there was a knock on the door. Asn opened and holy sh-t, she was thin, tall, pale, good complexion, great looking body. The whole works. She came in and I got the heck out of there cause Asn was like "WTF!" And I knew he was happy, LOL! Anyway, we were both wrong and it was an experience I don't think I could've believed if he told me without me being there.
I just know after the session, he took her to wash her hair and afterwards, she took off. In any case, he said the sex was great and he had a good time. I thought he was going to keep her and have her as his own secret BBS gem, but I never followed up on asking him. I just figured she's Asn's since she was supa-pretty. Otherwise, I would've pounced at getting her. So what happened Asn?
Good discussion on the picking a gal for someone.
I think it's ok if you trust the person who is picking for you (cause you will be late). But that person also has to trust that you will pick up the sitting fee no matter what as to NOT leave the selector hanging.
As for taking over a girl who is let go, I have had this happen to me. It was at Mayflower and I selected a girl who was not that great in the room. So I paid her sitting fee around 10 and let her go. That's the story for me at Mayflower. I make sh-tty selections there. Anyway, someone sat like 3 gals and offered to give me one of them. So I had the option of taking that girl he offered off his hands (but if I didn't, he would continue sitting her) and I did.
But for whatever reason, bonehead that I am, I didn't take her out. Since I did take her off his hands and I did play with her the last two hours, I took over her sitting fee. It was the fair thing to do but to this day, I don't know why I didn't just ST her. She was also puzzled why I didn't take her out. BSD was giving me the "you idiot" look afterwards, but I guess in the end, she wasn't my type.
In the end, it's all hit or miss as the girls will get their sitting fees once you selected them regardless of whether you two hit it off or not. Heck she could be a total be-tch, but that's the way it is in the KTV. Hit or miss, pay as you learn. IMO, it's similar if another person selects for you. Hit or miss, but in the end you got to give the sitting fee.
Just my opinion and I hope I don't offend anyone.
Hi all.
From Dongguan train station, bus #1 goes by Yalan hotel. But does this bus pass by swan lake hotel, and clipper?The 7 bus is closer but it stops on the main street that's just before Swan Lake Road. From the bus, stop you still have to walk 100 yards to Swan Lake hotel. For Clipper, it's another 200 to 300 yards. There is a mini van bus that travel on Swan lake Road but I don't know where it stops or travels to.
The number 1, 1b. 2 goes to Lucky Hotel and to Miraton Hotel.
I agree. For all you inconsiderate Bros out there who ask BSD to prepick gals for you. Either pony up the sitting fees for the gal or don't ever join mixed KTV sessions. I do not EVER want to be asked to pay a share for SOMEONE else's reject! Especially when I don't know you and I'm drunk playing with a girl!
Good discussion on the picking a gal for someone.
I think it's ok if you trust the person who is picking for you (cause you will be late). But that person also has to trust that you will pick up the sitting fee no matter what as to NOT leave the selector hanging.
As for taking over a girl who is let go, I have had this happen to me. It was at Mayflower and I selected a girl who was not that great in the room. So I paid her sitting fee around 10 and let her go. That's the story for me at Mayflower. I make sh-tty selections there. Anyway, someone sat like 3 gals and offered to give me one of them. So I had the option of taking that girl he offered off his hands (but if I didn't, he would continue sitting her) and I did.
But for whatever reason, bonehead that I am, I didn't take her out. Since I did take her off his hands and I did play with her the last two hours, I took over her sitting fee. It was the fair thing to do but to this day, I don't know why I didn't just ST her. She was also puzzled why I didn't take her out. BSD was giving me the "you idiot" look afterwards, but I guess in the end, she wasn't my type.
In the end, it's all hit or miss as the girls will get their sitting fees once you selected them regardless of whether you two hit it off or not. Heck she could be a total be-tch, but that's the way it is in the KTV. Hit or miss, pay as you learn. IMO, it's similar if another person selects for you. Hit or miss, but in the end you got to give the sitting fee.
Just my opinion and I hope I don't offend anyone.
Bruce,
I would have shared her with you. I don't mind, I'm not the possessive type of guy who clings onto girls all that much, unless they are girls that I totally fall in love with. She was up for grabs!
So this is what happened, she was Hui Hua KTV girl. Really tall, skinny and just beautiful skin. She stopped working at the KTV because the drinking was making her sick, so she decided to stop to work at a BBS. I think that's like a backup plan if you aren't willing to drink, or go to work at Saunas licking assholes all day long. BUt she was hot and Bruce can attest to that.
I liked her service so I took her out to wash her hair because she wanted to and I figured I would as well. Then for some odd reason, when I got a phone call from my travel agency, she assumed that I was talking to another girl or something and got pissed and just walked off. I chased her down and asked her what's wrong? She gave me this discontent look. I asked what's she's doing now, she says she wants to go back to work. So I offered to hail down a taxi to take her back to work and she declined and walked away with a pissed off look. So I just thought, ok I guess she didn't like me very much and I let her go.
So that was the story. Bruce, you should have pounded her man, girls like that don't show up to BBS often, you know that. I would have given her up to you. Bros over Hoes man!
AsnDragon.
Yeah, this was a story I couldn't believe if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
What happened was one afternoon, Asn myself and docc was having lunch near Virgin Hotel. Afterwards, Asn and I decided to check out the BBSs behind Hui Mei cause we haven't been there in like 4 months. First BBS had 2 girls. It was funny as sh-t cause they were both fat and ugly. The mommy was apologizing and saying business was really bad (no sh-t, we got eyes.). Anyway, next door down we saw like 4 girls and again, it was go-in, look, get-out. Then we went to some hotel (not Jin Mei) but kinda behind the Oyster BBQ place. Normally, I would NOT venture there, but Asn and I had each other's back and so we took a look. I think we were taken to the 3rd floor and went into a normal hotel room. They had like 8 girls and one of them was pretty ok and Asn wanted to get her. But some guy snatched her and they went to a room upstairs so we got the mommy's number and said we'll be back.
Outside, we went to that 2nd BBS where they had 4 girls and the mommy said there's a 165 cm girl who's hot and a KTV gal. Yeah right, we thought. She showed her picture in a crappy 100 rmb phone and again we said "Yeah, but who knows what she actually looks like." The mommy said she's not at work yet, so she will call us as soon as the supposed-hottie gets in. Ok, whatever, we thought.
We went back to SWL for some more hunting and the mommy called. The mommy said the girl is there, but eating and will be an hour late. Asn told her to get the girl over ASAP or else we're going to the KTV and it'll be too late. Anyway, we went to Asn's room and waited. 15 then 30 minutes. Asn called again and pushed the mommy. At this point, I was very skeptical and I told Asn that the girl probably is ugly. Why would a hot gal who's 165 cm be working at a BBS and at such a sh-tty BBS behind Hui Mei?
Anyway, we were pretty much expecting the worst when there was a knock on the door. Asn opened and holy sh-t, she was thin, tall, pale, good complexion, great looking body. The whole works. She came in and I got the heck out of there cause Asn was like "WTF!" And I knew he was happy, LOL! Anyway, we were both wrong and it was an experience I don't think I could've believed if he told me without me being there.
I just know after the session, he took her to wash her hair and afterwards, she took off. In any case, he said the sex was great and he had a good time. I thought he was going to keep her and have her as his own secret BBS gem, but I never followed up on asking him. I just figured she's Asn's since she was supa-pretty. Otherwise, I would've pounced at getting her. So what happened Asn?
ManonsanBoy,
I'm beginning to think that Saunas in Tangxia are better than CP and well CA saunas are better than Tangxia. But in any case, which sauna was this at? Golden Island or at Tangxia Goodview Hotel Sauna?
I have never had any Sauna girl want to partake on any DATY, nor want to partake on any Anal Sex. That is just amazing! Would love to know more about this girl if you are willing to share with me, please PM me.
AsnDragon.
After having been closed for 40 plus days for the wretched universaide shit, saunas opened bloomed again.
She was 5'6" and a great body with a 36 itis. I immediately picked her despite the line up not completed.
Started with usual shower, body scrub, body shampoo, licking when wet and this time, unusually, toesucking whilst hand job. I thought, this is going to be a good day.
Dried up. Usual attention to the ears. Finger and toe nails clipped experted. This one was unusual because she then put her lips right next to mine as if to enquire. I pursed my lips and she started kissing me. Licking whole body, both front and back. Then she focused attention on my cock and started expertly and smoothly deep throating me almost to the point of come. She then presented her pussy for a 69. Who am I to say no? Licking made her moan and her vagina to tent. I turned her over and DATV until she comes after her vagina tented and farted (with my finger rocking her cervix gently) so it must have been real. Then I slipped into her after hurried capping and gently brought her to another orgasm. I turned her around and put 2 pillows under her pelvis and pounded her pussy. I noticed her arse hole was dilating so without a pause entered her anally. She barely complained. Just saying do not stop! I did not and shot a load. One of the best fucks ever and I am nearing 1000 different ladies! Just want to share.
Freepeaks,
FYI, CA actually has naked Footie massage for an additional fee. CA is just a bit more crazy than CP is on the footie scene. They even have a class of Massage / Sex type of venue. It's inbetween a Sauna and a massage. Bascially they give you a full body massage but they do not do all that anus licking and sucking, but after the full body massage they will give you a BJ and have sex with you. It's cheaper than a Sauna, but with less service. Which is good because sometimes the whole sucking and licking all over the body gets old. Sometimes I just want to relax a bit and do the deed right after. The whole feel feels a whole lot less mechanical than a typical Sauna session.
AsnDragon.
Rockstar was assistant mommie there. Her girls were ugly. Nuff said.
Yes lots of hot mommies and ugly girls, dirty footie is okay but I want them to strip down for a nudie footie.
Simply better KTVs out there.
Freepeaks,
I could have sworn there were more than 30 models. The last time I was there, the whole entire room was filled with Model girls which seemed like at least 50, perhaps I'm wrong. Yes the Big Boob class (changes uniforms periodically) is a pretty good value. I mean they are a bit more expensive, but they sort of help select the better quality girl for you to choose from instead of having to circle countless times downstairs to find a 2/5/8 girl.
But this time going to Fuhao, I realized that after they filtered out all the big boob girls to showcase on the staircase, the 2/5/8 girls downstairs seem rather empty and not as full as it use to be. I did see that the quality of Fuhao has gotten better since the last time I was there a few months back. They had quite a few temporary tag girls working that seemed pretty tall and good looking, but they seemed to have pretty bad attitudes though. I think I pointed them out to Bruce Tea the last time we were there, they always hang out nea the bar area or the brightly lit area on the right hand corner of the flower street.
Overall, it seems that quality of girls have gone up, so Freepeaks, I'm sure you are going to have a great time on your next upcoming trip.
AsnDragon.
That is why to each his own. I went to LiHao 3 times and every time was a disaster, too expensive and low quality for me.
FUHAO.
AsnDragon. Note there are about 30 models, the other 'class' is the big boob class, meaning they have big boobs (I think in blue)
And that isn't a bad class to have, although they are at a higher rate (369?).
Freepeaks,
Overall, it seems that quality of girls have gone up, so Freepeaks, I'm sure you are going to have a great time on your next upcoming trip.And clean out your ISG PM box! Is it necessary to keep 200 ISG messages? Out with the old and in with the new!
Bruce,
You talkin' to freepeaks or me?
You gettin' CP blues yet?
AsnDragon.
And clean out your ISG PM box! Is it necessary to keep 200 ISG messages? Out with the old and in with the new!
So I did mention that on my recent trip to Price Sauna in HuangJiang, I had this really beautiful Hubei girl, or so she claimed to be from Hubei. After two wonderful sessions with her, so left the Sauna and decided to open up her own business in Huangjiang. I got her QQ and we were chatting it up and I was asking her about her hometown in Hubei Etc. She said she's not from Hubei, she's from Henan. But her manager at the Sauna told girls from Henan to conceal their true hometown because there's a bad stigma against Henan girls. The stigma happened back in 2003-2004 where they had a blood drive in Henan province in which many villagers came to donate blood for money. But because the needles were reused the whole village caught HIV. The villagers were so mad that this happened they were rumored to have injected their blood into watermelons produces in Henan. So for a whole year people didn't eat watermelons due to this scare.
So the manager at the sauna said that anyone to have revealed they are from henan were to be fined, so she chose to tell me she was from Hubei.
So my questions comes down to this. Anyone have a bad experience with Henan girls?
I personally have had some bad experiences with Henan girls and many of my girls do not like Henan girls for some reason. Complains I personally experience is a lack of personal hygiene. I have had some BBS girls from Henan that wouldn't take a shower and say that they already took one. I've had more henan girls who spit directly onto the carpet of my hotel room compared to other provinces.
Other girls I've been with say they have roomed with Henan girls and they tend to not like to take daily showers even in Guangdong's humid heat and weather conditions. They tend to be messy and dirty. Part of the reason why they aren't accustomed to taking daily showers is because Henan is a relatively poor province and during the winters it gets so cold that people go on a month without even taking one shower at all. It sounds gross but it happens.
Now one thing I wanted to point out was that all of the henan girls I've been with have dark nipples. I personally like them nice and pink like how SEAJOE likes them. But from my experience all of the Henan girls have dark nipples. I'm thinking this could be a coincidence. But has any other brothers had similar experiences as me?
AsnDragon
CP,
I have partied a lot with BSD's groups, and would be really surprised to hear this happening. Not saying it didn't, just that I would be surprised. Now, I have been in the room on a couple of occasions when some guy would be coming late and ask BSD to pick for him, then he shows up two hours late and doesn't like the girl. (in one case I thought the guy was nuts, the girl was a treat) and then he starts saying that he doesn't want to pay for the girl because he doesn't like her and wants another one.
SkyThat is complete crap. Nice for you to step in but seriously that is bad. I'm sure BSD would blacklist him after than. As for BSD's track record for me, he always picks a fun girl even if not my flavor, she is fun. I haven't always taken them home but they do play. Not paying his pick is like asking someone to place a bet for you then not paying when it loses.
BSD was giving me the "you idiot" look afterwards, but I guess in the end, she wasn't my type.I'm still looking at you that way after that hottie came over and gave you a drink and wink at 18 when you were
Peacocking the F1 jacket. She walked 20 feet across the bar to give you that. And she was hot. Rainout, when are.
We going to party again?
I did see that the quality of Fuhao has gotten better since the last time I was there a few months back.
AsnDragon.Quality is up from the all time low perhaps early this year (a Friday had no one to pick from) , but is no where close to 2 years ago.
The big boob class is the best class I think because it seems every girl is fun and likes to fuck. The model class they are generally.
Great in the room and in bed too. But you have to click else they can just play the part and they aren't good actresses.
Meiguoguizi
09-15-11, 14:30
So I did mention that on my recent trip to Price Sauna in HuangJiang, I had this really beautiful Hubei girl, or so she claimed to be from Hubei. After two wonderful sessions with her, so left the Sauna and decided to open up her own business in Huangjiang. I got her QQ and we were chatting it up and I was asking her about her hometown in Hubei Etc. She said she's not from Hubei, she's from Henan. But her manager at the Sauna told girls from Henan to conceal their true hometown because there's a bad stigma against Henan girls. The stigma happened back in 2003-2004 where they had a blood drive in Henan province in which many villagers came to donate blood for money. But because the needles were reused the whole village caught HIV. The villagers were so mad that this happened they were rumored to have injected their blood into watermelons produces in Henan. So for a whole year people didn't eat watermelons due to this scare.
So the manager at the sauna said that anyone to have revealed they are from henan were to be fined, so she chose to tell me she was from Hubei.
So my questions comes down to this. Anyone have a bad experience with Henan girls?
I personally have had some bad experiences with Henan girls and many of my girls do not like Henan girls for some reason. Complains I personally experience is a lack of personal hygiene. I have had some BBS girls from Henan that wouldn't take a shower and say that they already took one. I've had more henan girls who spit directly onto the carpet of my hotel room compared to other provinces.
Other girls I've been with say they have roomed with Henan girls and they tend to not like to take daily showers even in Guangdong's humid heat and weather conditions. They tend to be messy and dirty. Part of the reason why they aren't accustomed to taking daily showers is because Henan is a relatively poor province and during the winters it gets so cold that people go on a month without even taking one shower at all. It sounds gross but it happens.
Now one thing I wanted to point out was that all of the henan girls I've been with have dark nipples. I personally like them nice and pink like how SEAJOE likes them. But from my experience all of the Henan girls have dark nipples. I'm thinking this could be a coincidence. But has any other brothers had similar experiences as me?
AsnDragonHenan born Chinese are a routine object of Chinese prejudice. Like all prejudice it is based on misconceptions and the powerful human practice of always looking for evidence to support our beliefs. The 'blood drive' story in Henan is a cover-up for the widespread practice in central and southern China of buying blood, removing the plasma / platelets then POOLING THE RESIDUAL UNUSED BLOOD PLASMA AND RE-INJECTING IT INTO THE PERSON SELLING THE BLOOD. Obviously this ridiculous Chinese medical practice was a nightmare for many poor people. Rich people don't sell their blood. But they do eat watermelon. Eating 'blood infected watermelon' would not infect anyone; the virus cannot survive in that environment and the digestive tract would destroy it anyway.
Henan now has a population of 100 million people, the largest of any province. It is also a very poor province.
Try to find a country in the world where the poorest people are not an object of prejudice. Blamed for all types of problems. It's comforting to blame the powerless.
I've been with several Henan working girls. I don't find them any different than other Chinese women. Individuals are individuals. You've been with several Henan working girls too. They just didn't tell you where they really were from.
SE Asia Joe
09-15-11, 16:12
Now one thing I wanted to point out was that all of the henan girls I've been with have dark nipples. I personally like them nice and pink like how SEAJOE likes them. But from my experience all of the Henan girls have dark nipples. I'm thinking this could be a coincidence. But has any other brothers had similar experiences as me?
AsnDragonOK Asn. Got a question for you. What if you're faced with 2 gals that you like. One with darker nipplesand the other with pinker nipples?
What would YOU do?
SEAJ.
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I have not see the "eel bath" in China, but after reading this, I don't want to try it.
http://dailypicksandflicks.com/2011/09/13/eel-swims-up-chinese-mans-penis-during-spa-treatment/
http://www.newsytype.com/11388-eel-up-penis/
And, here's the other eel story from 2010, be careful who you party with!
http://shanghaiist.com/2010/05/01/man_in_sichuan_dies_after_friends_i.php
http://www.chinanews.com/sh/news/2010/04-28/2250979.shtml (Chinese language version)
Some news from Shenzhen:
http://www.weirdasianews.com/2011/08/30/forced-evictions-china-bucket-scorpions/
Extreme poor in Hong Kong, Imagine "141" girls becoming "1181" girls!
http://www.weirdasianews.com/2009/11/21/hong-kong-citizens-living-cages-literally/
Next time you go golfing in Malaysia, consider playing the 19th "hole":
http://www.weirdasianews.com/2011/06/29/indonesian-golf-caddies-double-prostitutes/
Dar425
SEAJOE,
I am honored to have seen your archive of photos once again. In your situation with two girls in your shower already, I would do both at the same time. However, I will tell you that I will be more attracted the the blond haired girl with pink nipples, because those are pretty pink. The other girl with black hair is darker nipples, but I would not consider them to be black nipples yet.
But once again, great job Joe, all the girls like 28 year old swedes like you. I can't seem to ever allow girls to allow me to take pictures of them naked at all. No such luck for an overweight old guy like me.
AsnDragon.
OK Asn. Got a question for you. What if you're faced with 2 gals that you like. One with darker nipplesand the other with pinker nipples?
What would YOU do?
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Sardaukar1
09-16-11, 22:26
But for whatever reason, bonehead that I am, I didn't take her out. Since I did take her off his hands and I did play with her the last two hours, I took over her sitting fee. It was the fair thing to do but to this day, I don't know why I didn't just ST her. She was also puzzled why I didn't take her out. BSD was giving me the "you idiot" look afterwards, but I guess in the end, she wasn't my type.I would've done the same, if I found out later on that the girl isn't my type. No point in wasting jizz on a girl I don't like for the sake of just getting some action that night. It's about quality not quantity!
Lattelatte
09-17-11, 01:22
Quick report.
Just came back from 5 days in CP. It was very relaxing.
Thanks to BSD for setting up the Hotel, KTV, Sauna, and PozoLim massages.
Wanted to point out that I speak almost 0 Chinese, I can count from 1-9 (but forget what is 10 or 0).
Even w / o any language skills its alot of fun and great to go. But I highly recommend using BSD w / or w / o language skills. Here's a few reasons:
1. Dave is professional and honest
2. He is always available by phone if not personally available.
3. Even though I know the scene, its very good to know Dave knows where I am, and that the girls / shop know I'm w / Dave.
4. While I'm kind of aloner and came alone to chill and rest, in general if you want to have fun you will meet cool guys thru Dave. Also KTV drinking games are way more fun w / BSD leading them.
Note I stayed at Hui Hoa. The hotels in CP are really great. All are 4-star quality at 1. 5star prices (compared to HKG or Macau). I did find it a little noisy w / all the honking of buses / cars even 23 floors up. Have to find a more secluded place next time. Otherwise great trip, will repeat.
Cheers, and long live CP.
Jettsetter
09-17-11, 02:19
I agree. For all you inconsiderate Bros out there who ask BSD to prepick gals for you. Either pony up the sitting fees for the gal or don't ever join mixed KTV sessions. I do not EVER want to be asked to pay a share for SOMEONE else's reject! Especially when I don't know you and I'm drunk playing with a girl!I still have some serious doubts that it went down the way you say it did. I've never EVER seen or could see a host forcing everyone to pay for a girl that someone else left over. I can see a host saying, this girls is available if anyone wants her. At which time you'd obviously be paying for her. In terms of your night. I remember you CP141. You were the Baller who came in the room and when everyone tried to be nice and introduce themselves, you thought you were the man and didn't even respond / care. There's a reason why we split rooms that night my man. That reason was you.
I've talked to BSD about what happened that night, and BSD did prepick a girl. The guy didn't like the girl, but it was only about 20 minutes into the KTV session, so BSD told the girl that she could take 100 and bounce and find another guy to potentially make her 500/800 or whatever, or stay in the room make her 200 and be assured she would NOT be taken out. Back and forth discussions went down and after bringing in the mommy (because the girl's services were just not good after this happened) in that the girl opted for the 200 and told everyone she was NOT going to play anymore games, etc. The result was the girl left without a dime.
Now after talking to BSD, before this had gone down, he had offered the girl to the brothers that were interested. I can see this as a miscommunication with everyone if you are half drunk and / or aren't paying attention. But if the bro had not paid for the girl. BSD would have paid for her and gotten the money from the bro or ate it himself. I've known this guy for now probably 3-4 years and easily have to say that he does not cheat people or pull these kinds of things. In fact, most on the board would admit that this guy is nice to a fault. Where he doesn't make it a business sometimes for the sake of being nice to folks he doesn't even know at times.
At the end of the day, my man, I'm not buying what you're shoveling. And next time you try to join a group, maybe acting a little less cocky and a little more friendly goes a long way. You're big fish in a little pond at times because these girls act like you're the man since you're not from around here and throw around a little money. But honestly man, we're all in the same game and we came to have fun. We are all foreigners that have money. Nobody likes an a-hole.
-Jett
Jetsetter I don't care how you play or what you think of me. When I play, I only put my focus on having fun and the girl and would not give a damn about other people because I don't know you and I'm in my own world. Now I remember BSD ask me to split the sitting with another dude and that was uncalled for no matter what you say. Why the he'll would I want to split the sitting fee for a reject? Tell me why? I don't care if you have known BSD for years. BTW
After that last mixed KTV mixed session I will never join another session. I will rather ask BSD to host another private KTV session for me so I can be myself and go all wild. Your session doesn't even have enough room for me to sit 6 girls. Now that's IS the main reason I agree to move to another room.
That is how I play. You have your own way of playing and communicating with other bros but that's you. Don't even try to get personal here. You have your doubts and I have mines. Done deal here.
I still have some serious doubts that it went down the way you say it did. I've never EVER seen or could see a host forcing everyone to pay for a girl that someone else left over. I can see a host saying, this girls is available if anyone wants her. At which time you'd obviously be paying for her. In terms of your night. I remember you CP141. You were the Baller who came in the room and when everyone tried to be nice and introduce themselves, you thought you were the man and didn't even respond / care. There's a reason why we split rooms that night my man. That reason was you.
I've talked to BSD about what happened that night, and BSD did prepick a girl. The guy didn't like the girl, but it was only about 20 minutes into the KTV session, so BSD told the girl that she could take 100 and bounce and find another guy to potentially make her 500/800 or whatever, or stay in the room make her 200 and be assured she would NOT be taken out. Back and forth discussions went down and after bringing in the mommy (because the girl's services were just not good after this happened) in that the girl opted for the 200 and told everyone she was NOT going to play anymore games, etc. The result was the girl left without a dime.
Now after talking to BSD, before this had gone down, he had offered the girl to the brothers that were interested. I can see this as a miscommunication with everyone if you are half drunk and / or aren't paying attention. But if the bro had not paid for the girl. BSD would have paid for her and gotten the money from the bro or ate it himself. I've known this guy for now probably 3-4 years and easily have to say that he does not cheat people or pull these kinds of things. In fact, most on the board would admit that this guy is nice to a fault. Where he doesn't make it a business sometimes for the sake of being nice to folks he doesn't even know at times.
At the end of the day, my man, I'm not buying what you're shoveling. And next time you try to join a group, maybe acting a little less cocky and a little more friendly goes a long way. You're big fish in a little pond at times because these girls act like you're the man since you're not from around here and throw around a little money. But honestly man, we're all in the same game and we came to have fun. We are all foreigners that have money. Nobody likes an a-hole.
-Jett
Jettsetter
09-17-11, 04:04
Jetsetter I don't care how you play or what you think of me. When I play, I only put my focus on having fun and the girl and would not give a damn about other people because I don't know you and I'm in my own world. Now I remember BSD ask me to split the sitting with another dude and that was uncalled for no matter what you say. Why the he'll would I want to split the sitting fee for a reject? Tell me why? I don't care if you have known BSD for years. BTW
After that last mixed KTV mixed session I will never join another session. I will rather ask BSD to host another private KTV session for me so I can be myself and go all wild. Your session doesn't even have enough room for me to sit 6 girls. Now that's IS the main reason I agree to move to another room.
That is how I play. You have your own way of playing and communicating with other bros but that's you. Don't even try to get personal here. You have your doubts and I have mines. Done deal here.Not much more I need to say. Thanks for making my point.
Good luck.
-J
4 of us went to Tian Hao KTV Hotel and hoe house LOL last night. It was really a blast having 2-3 18-20 yr old hotties stroking my cock all night. Playing with their fresh unshaven semi virgin twats hehe.
My 3 buddies got thrashed but not I fortunately. 2 girls passed out about 230 am. I took one of the hotties ustairs as we spent the night at the subpat hotel there. Any 2 pops nice lay and good attitude.
Can it get better than this? Life is good.
Guys, this bickering back and forth about who should pay, why and all this nonsense should stop and focus on getiing teeange pussy in Donguan. Isnt that what this forum is for?
PC out
Already spoke to BSD through PM and everything was a misunderstanding. Again, my point was to say prepicking girls for newbie bros who is coming in late was not such a good idea esp mixed KTV sessions due to shits that could happen like this. I have made this point across to BSD and it is up to him to take this advice.
And thanks for pointing out I'm a asshole, cocky and unfriendly. One more reason for BSD to host a private KTV for me so I don't have to meet other ABCs and foreigners out there. Gook luck to you too.
Not much more I need to say. Thanks for making my point.
Good luck.
-J
Guys.
I think this whole back and forth animosity is really uncalled for here. I really hate this board turning into a bickering session here. The point is, it's all a miscommunication. BSD Dave doesn't cheat people or trick people, he's a good guy. So don't go off saying things to defame his reputation. Obviously CP141, you don't think that BSD Dave is that type of person right? Or else you wouldn't ask him to help you host a private party in the future right?
In any case, let's make peace and get back to the real reason why we come to this board, to talk about the beautiful women in China.
BTW BSD Dave, you do like your taste in girls, I think we share similar tastes and preferences, especially that one girl at Yihao! She was HOT!
AsnDragon
Jim Traveller
09-17-11, 23:55
A pig's confession must sound like this:
I was, or at least I pretended to be, a gentlemen. In a town like CP, being a good guy was eeeeasy. You can openly put one hand on the butt of a second woman while remaining the loverboy to the first, at long you pay the not-to-exobitant bills. Gosh, I love this town.
But iife got a lot simplier as I experiemented being a pig.
The good old Amazon is just a place for the pig want-to-be. First the set-up. Flowerstreet at 7pm. 200-300 girls. Girls at 2-5-8. For girls that wear the yellow "HD" tag, the rate is 4-6-9. 90% of the girls there wear the "HD" tag. After all, this is what this club specializes in. Note even if you get the HD girl, if you don't ask them to strip, it is still 2-5-8, you have the choice. They don't.
Stripping occurs around 9 pm, as a manager walks into the room and gives the go-ahead, all HD girls bare their knockers and give a personal lap dance to the guy they are sitting for. It is a 20-min event.
Quality of the girls there are, well I try to refrain from using pig's language - Low. Girls ranging from the generally subpar to the down-right ugly, with only a few fuckable ones sprinkled atop the pork barrel.
But if you are a newly minted pig and enjoy the occasional roll in shit, you've found your heaven.
The rooms are old and dingy. Drinks are cheap. There is an ample supply of rooms so don't worry about finding one on a Friday night. Cheapest is 338. Meaning 600 rmb including DJ and service fee. Better renovated rooms are the 2nd floor above the flower street, those you need to book early.
The good thing about this club is not the lame stripping. As a stingy pig one can't see the rationale of paying 200 extra just for a dance - well 100 if you take the girl home anyways. However, since these girls strip on command they rid themselves of the last pretensions of being a lady (well these pentensions are hard to maintain in a KTV anyways) , and encourges the guy to be a total pig - the kind that will roll in shit and be thrilled.
One Thursday night in September, a pig pulled 4 girls out of the line-up. Noting that half of the female population remained on the flower street at 7:30 - you can't blame the other pigs, what remained on display were bad with a capital B.
Pig approaches his pile of flesh:"you game for doublefly?" The first, a very fuckable one, gives a resolute no and was sent on her way without compensation. The second, hesitates. Pig announced with an air of generosity:" it is up to you, you think about it, and if you are game for it, you stay." Thinking about it she did, as it turned out, as she was taking turns blowing the pig later on in the evening. The remaining girls say: no problem.
9 pm came and gone and no manager walked in. One of the girls who thought her take-out prospects dim wispered into the pig's ear:" why not go for HD, it is fun". Yeah right, why not double your sitting fee with 20 minutes of effort? The economics are such that a girl is better off performing the strip, which clears her 350 after the mommie's cut, without sex, then doing a quickie at 5 without the strip, which clears here a paltry 380 after the mommie's cut. The mathematics were cruel, simple and effective. Where else can a plain girl clear 350 just for sitting with some nude dancing.
Being a pig he didn't take the bait. He continued sticking his tongue down the throats of his victims."Tongue Testing"- as he calls it, is an effective means of predicting the level of service in bed.
As the evening drew to a close the pig simply commands to the unlucky victims."take your bags we are going" - and they follow him out without any hesitation. Well, they had their chance to leave early on and there was not going to be any buts now.
In bed the doublefly team were- I wouldn't say wild and spontaneous - but rather open and accommodating. Having known each other only for a couple of hours and did not know they are going to be picked for the take-out team until the last minute, they had no time to smooth out their teamwork or to build a rapport. Fortunately for the pig, the girls had no time to form a union either. So they did what was told with a degree of compliance and precision that will put even a German worker to shame.
The pig had his way.
Then he whips out a pile of money. This is only going to be a quickie after all. The pig is not a stud. There is only one 28-old Swede in CP, and for countless years gone by and many years to come, this title will befall our much-loved SE Joe. The roll-in-shit had cost the pig his energy for the night. It was not going to cost him any more money than necessary.
The girls were disappointed but also relieved to be rid of the pig and another possible morning roll-in-shit. As the pig collects their phone numbers he thinks:"what have I done, how have my standards lowered to this, I have done ugly girls before, but two at once?" As if feeling sorry for himself, the pig gave the girls 6 each instead of the standard 5. Their effort in bed more than compensates for the lack of stripping.
This shining instance of human decency on the part of the pig must be a beacon of light in the dark corridors of the pigsty, as the pig found out later. The abused girls kept on texting him, hoping for a repeat of that night's adventure.
Gees, those pigs!
While I have never requested BSD to pre pick a girl, I am sure I will sometime in future if my schedule forces me to do so. First I trust BSD and if his choice does not work out for me I would be glad to pay the fee. If it so turns out that I can not even make it to the party, I will pay him the fee at a later date. I do believe most of the mongers I met over the years will do exactly the same. It is obvious to me BSD would not pre pick a girl for someone he does not know. I have yet to meet someone as easy going and helpful as BSD.
Already spoke to BSD through PM and everything was a misunderstanding. Again, my point was to say prepicking girls for newbie bros who is coming in late was not such a good idea esp mixed KTV sessions due to shits that could happen like this. I have made this point across to BSD and it is up to him to take this advice.
And thanks for pointing out I'm a asshole, cocky and unfriendly. One more reason for BSD to host a private KTV for me so I don't have to meet other ABCs and foreigners out there. Gook luck to you too.
Yes the guy was a newbie. Per BSD:
"After everyone has pick their girls and about 30 minutes into the party (this now is approximately 7:30pm) , the late arrival showed up and immediately said to me that he didn't like my pick and want to pick his own girl (he ended up sitting 3). He offered to pay the girl 100RMB to leave but the girl will not want to leave no less than 300 (she was a 3, 7.10 girl)"
Anyways this is a done deal. It's shit like this that I personally would never ever join a mixed party with people I don't know anymore. I will let BSD host my own party, I pick my own full room of girls, no trouble cuz I play with managers and Mommies and not other newbies and foreigners. Lets get back on topic please.
While I have never requested BSD to pre pick a girl, I am sure I will sometime in future if my schedule forces me to do so. First I trust BSD and if his choice does not work out for me I would be glad to pay the fee. If it so turns out that I can not even make it to the party, I will pay him the fee at a later date. I do believe most of the mongers I met over the years will do exactly the same. It is obvious to me BSD would not pre pick a girl for someone he does not know. I have yet to meet someone as easy going and helpful as BSD.
A pig's confession must sound like this:
I was, or at least I pretended to be, a gentlemen. In a town like CP, being a good guy was eeeeasy. You can openly put one hand on the butt of a second woman while remaining the loverboy to the first, at long you pay the not-to-exobitant bills. Gosh, I love this town.
But iife got a lot simplier as I experiemented being a pig.
Gees, those pigs!Okay that may be one of the best posts in a long while! Maybe we need to have the occasional "pig party", see who can sit the ugliest girl the quickest! Who knows, it may even turn out to be a fun night!
Oink! Oink!
Thanks Jim!
Okay that may be one of the best posts in a long while! Maybe we need to have the occasional "pig party", see who can sit the ugliest girl the quickest! Who knows, it may even turn out to be a fun night!
Oink! Oink!
Thanks Jim!Holy Sh-t, a JTraveler post! What a treat and what a write-up!
Ok, I'm game for Pig Parties. I mean, I got to be horny that night (that means no sex that morning or afternoon quickies) and we got to get some guys who come to party (instead of looking for ms. Rights). It'd be fun as sh-t to just act like a pig the whole night just to have an evening of none-gentlemanly sex.
I mean, I've had some down and dirty sex from these not-too-well-known KTVs and had some fun nights just screwing around without worrying about what the gals think. Just Pig-them and play!
Oink! Oink!
Member #4144
09-18-11, 06:55
A pig's confession must sound like this:
I was, or at least I pretended to be, a gentlemen. In a town like CP, being a good guy was eeeeasy. You can openly put one hand on the butt of a second woman while remaining the loverboy to the first, at long you pay the not-to-exobitant bills. Gosh, I love this town.
But iife got a lot simplier as I experiemented being a pig. Gees, those pigs!A good looking guy who is also an excellent writer, seems like CP's girls are having some treats to some quality mongers.
Do these HD girls do naked dance (everyone completely naked) like in another popular place? I found the main reason to come to CP is exactly that, to feel the girls pussy turn wet with the music and to finger fuck two girls with both hands and everyone gets really sweaty. This kind of double-fly-dancing is a totally different experience and unique.
Fillmore
Jim,
Your post, as always is so eloquently written. In fact I miss your posts from before. The last post that you made such a nice story come together must have been like 3-4 years ago.
But man, you going to Amazon must have been a either a really rash decision on your part of you were just in the mood for some adventure. You, the person who cannot even find a "decent" jim traveller girl in Mayflower, dare to venture into Amazon Territory to find an "acceptable" companion for the night? It must have really been a low point for Jim Traveller. For those of you out there who don't know Jim Traveller, he's a person who does not, or rarely does not compromise when it comes to the quality of girl he picks. He strive for excellence and only settles when his standards are reached. So for him to pick a girl from Amazon, must have been difficult. Heck, my standards are lower than his and I find it hard to pick a girl at Amazon.
So Jim, I salute you! For your courage, and ability to stand outside of your comfort=zone of Yihao, Eurasia and Royal Garden Level type of girls and venture into Amazon Territory, you are certainly a brave man!
AsnDragon.
A pig's confession must sound like this:
I was, or at least I pretended to be, a gentlemen. In a town like CP, being a good guy was eeeeasy. You can openly put one hand on the butt of a second woman while remaining the loverboy to the first, at long you pay the not-to-exobitant bills. Gosh, I love this town.
But iife got a lot simplier as I experiemented being a pig.
The good old Amazon is just a place for the pig want-to-be. First the set-up. Flowerstreet at 7pm. 200-300 girls. Girls at 2-5-8. For girls that wear the yellow "HD" tag, the rate is 4-6-9. 90% of the girls there wear the "HD" tag. After all, this is what this club specializes in. Note even if you get the HD girl, if you don't ask them to strip, it is still 2-5-8, you have the choice. They don't.
Gees, those pigs!
Ok, before I lay off of this topic, I have to clarify one thing about Amazon though. After visiting the place for more than 4 times, I did have at least 1 good experience there. I found a girl who looked like a cute japanese girl, who was from Sichuan, and only 16-17 years old. She was just so cute and a great nice tight body with beautiful white skin and pink nipples. BSD Dave saw her too and thought she was cute as well. She had a great personality and was great in bed. In fact I liked her so much I even sat her on my next visit to Amazon even when was on her red.
So I must say that although most of the girls are just bad with a capital "B" as Jim would say. She was the one exception!
AsnDragon
Freepeaks,
I would have to agree with you, the girls from 2 years ago were really good looking! I'm not talking about Fuhao, but all the KTVs in general in CP. I remember when BSD Dave first got into his profession hosting parties and all the KTVs we went to were stocked with beautiful girls!
Virgin had great girls.
California Red had the BEST girls! (you had that girl from guangdong who you did a threesome with who had the ass of a black woman)
The Penn had an abundance of high class looking girls.
Kang Cheng KTV all Naked KTV- the girls back then were overall a lot nicer than Amazon from my memory.
Hui Hua had some decent picks as well.
Manhattan- I found a girl that Slow and Better recommended to me and I fell in love with her for three days and even delayed my trip by one additional day to spend time with her.
These aren't the top KTVs that comes to mind when you think about going to a KTV these days, but honestly, even back then, girls were just prettier- Even in smaller establishments in which you wouldn't think you could find great looking girls. But then again this is pre- Yihao and pre-Eurasia days, so perhaps the KTVs had more girls to share amongst each other.
Is it just saturation or are girls going north to Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhou, Suzhou to earn the quick buck or something? What happened?
AsnDragon.
Quality is up from the all time low perhaps early this year (a Friday had no one to pick from) , but is no where close to 2 years ago.
The big boob class is the best class I think because it seems every girl is fun and likes to fuck. The model class they are generally.
Great in the room and in bed too. But you have to click else they can just play the part and they aren't good actresses.
Freepeaks,
Is it just saturation or are girls going north to Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhou, Suzhou to earn the quick buck or something? What happened?
AsnDragon.Dragon Man,
I cannot comment on anything more than about 18 mths ago, but I truly believe it is a combination of the increase in the minimum wage in the area and the proliferation of new KTV's. I suspect that in the short term you will see more as the girls decide they can be the higher "rated" girls without doing anything extra. I heard there may be a "new" big hotel coming soon, which means a new KTV, and the "smart" girls will go there much like they flocked to Mayflower and now YiHao. This means the rest will reside at the places you mentioned. Also some like to be the "big fish in the pond". I still say that the Penn is one of the places I have had the most success, but no one seems to want to go there anymore because no flower street. I haven't been for at least 6 months, but have fond memories. Maybe that is all they are only memories.
It will be interesting to see (I hope in a good way) whats happens here in the next year of so. I suspect there will be a continual flow of "new girls" into the area, just because of the volume of "opportunities" if nothing else.
I would be REALLY surprised if the other cities you mentioned were serious competition just based upon cost of living and the amount of jobs available, but that is just my opinion. I have been wrong a lot!
Sky
To make sure your night ends up with "quality" girls and not pork chops you will need to know some managers and or / BSD. Come early before flower street opens for a preview. Usually they are having a conference so you can take you pick there and the managers will write down their numbers and send them along to your KTV room. Pick a handful so in case you end up with some already reserved you can also have your backup "qualities." Quality girls who are reserved already then write down their number so you can tell management to book that girl next time. You can also stand outside while they are walking to work to get a feel on how their attitude then depending on your chemistry you can send them to your KTV room. Just remember there lots of tricks and tips on how to narrow down on a "quality" girls before they hit flower street or lineups.
That along with how you play games in the KTV, if you know mandarin / Cantonese, how much you can drink, how much they had to drink, how aggressive you are, how wild you are and your relationship with management will keep these girls in "quality" check. By the time flower street hits, they are usually leftover fishes but of course there's always exceptions and you can pick a 2-5-8 for a fun girl that will just keep drinking for you so you don't need to drink.
Dragon Man,
I cannot comment on anything more than about 18 mths ago, but I truly believe it is a combination of the increase in the minimum wage in the area and the proliferation of new KTV's. I suspect that in the short term you will see more as the girls decide they can be the higher "rated" girls without doing anything extra. I heard there may be a "new" big hotel coming soon, which means a new KTV, and the "smart" girls will go there much like they flocked to Mayflower and now YiHao. This means the rest will reside at the places you mentioned. Also some like to be the "big fish in the pond". I still say that the Penn is one of the places I have had the most success, but no one seems to want to go there anymore because no flower street. I haven't been for at least 6 months, but have fond memories. Maybe that is all they are only memories.
It will be interesting to see (I hope in a good way) whats happens here in the next year of so. I suspect there will be a continual flow of "new girls" into the area, just because of the volume of "opportunities" if nothing else.
I would be REALLY surprised if the other cities you mentioned were serious competition just based upon cost of living and the amount of jobs available, but that is just my opinion. I have been wrong a lot!
Sky
Sardaukar1
09-19-11, 02:37
By the time flower street hits, they are usually leftover fishes but of course there's always exceptions and you can pick a 2-5-8 for a fun girl that will just keep drinking for you so you don't need to drink.Keep in mind that a lot of girls arrive late to flower streets, especially the really hot ones. Because they are hot, they can get away with it and wouldn't be reprimanded by their mommies for tardiness. So picking early doesn't always guarantee you get the hottest girls possible.
Jim Traveller
09-19-11, 03:19
you, the person who cannot even find a "decent" jim traveller girl in mayflower, dare to venture into amazon territory to find an "acceptable" companion for the night? it must have really been a low point for jim traveller. asndragon.when i was young i listened to the old folks bragged about how they used to do this and do that. i was supposed to look at them with admiration and to exclaim "oh, really!"
now i am no longer young and i found myself going on and on about the good old times like a broken record. one night i sat up in a cold sweat and realized: what the hell, the world of plenty is no more.
you can't blame an old timer for missing the old times. truth be told, the old cp, even just a few years ago, was truely user-friendly. all you need is some time, a little money and a clean shave to charge up and down zhong yuan avenue, confident in the knowledge that you shall find what you seek and she would treat you like a, well, like an atm with an ever-changing pin that required her to apply all her heart, mind and body to decode. nowadays, a desperate monger is resorting to pig-like tactics to amuse himself.
something is rotten in the town of cp.
on a second thought however, maybe, just maybe, what changed was not the town, but the monger. the price hikes were obvious but so was inflation so i can't say the hikes were horrendous. now the quality, the quaity. i find myself complaining all the time. however, it is just possible that, when compared against a long set of fond memories, any new girl will have a hard time making an impression. also, having been there, done that, it is hard for an old brother to be excited about the next lay.
i envy the brothers who can find merit in the unattractive. beauty is in the eye of beholder, the ones who can find beauty in plain women are truely blessed. i am, however, cursed with a very unimaginative taste. i like what most men like, that means i had to arrive early, pay top dollar, and put up with bs from self-aborbed ice queens.
in my next life, i want to be a pig, and like porky women. but in this life, i turn to places like yihao for emotional comfort and intellectual stimulation by leggy coat-hanger types. beauty can still be found there, albeit at 1500 in the model category. all my yihao model experiences were poor. the beauties were, as i found out, ice cold once they exit from the shower. while one used to feel strange about casting a girl aside like used tissue after a quickie, there was no hesitation in sending the beauty queens on their way after a deadfish experience, without even the pretense of asking for their phone numbers. there was, only a moment of wistfulness as one peered out from the open door and admired those long legs carrying her elegant body away towards the elevator: what a beautiful thing she was!
the eurasia held my breath when it opened 2 years ago with an ample supply of beautiful 3-6-9s. nowadays only the occassional beauty can be found amongst the 5-15-20s. to be sure, the 5-15-20s that i've had were beautiful and enthusastic. but they are a little over priced for a town like cp. it is extremely difficult to find anything worthwhile amongst the 3-7-10s. actually. i have found none in the past 2 years. any girl who is remotely attractive have upgraded themselves to the model class, which consists of 100 ugly women, and 10 beautiful ones. a girl would rather be a 2000 model and get occasional business, then being subject to daily pounding at a measly 1000. again, it is just mathematics. cold, calculating, unforgiving mathematics. after a civilized encounter with a 2000-a-night nymph (self-proclaimed, no iso certification) , a brother might find a roll in shit with a few amazonian piglets both liberating and economical. you are right, asndragon, it was a low point.
lately however i have found both service and a little class in dfml (dong fang mei li) in ca (town of changan - 40min from cp). the women there are somewhere between mayflower and the pen in looks. rates are 3-8-10. mostly 6 or 7s. nice suits make them look classier than they actually are, great attitude, fun games. if you go to the washroom, they'd wait for you by the door with a piece of tissue in hand. if you sit 3 women, the 3rd one, having just left your lap because your legs are sore from her weight, would reach out from one-seat over and massage some part of your body, so as not to make herself seem superferlous. company directed games aimed at getting your paws onto the girls can also be fun for those who are naturally shy. in all, you feel like a king with small harem while in the ktv room. the actual take-out was nothing special, your luck between the sheets is a matter functional to so many variables that can't be easily iso certified. yet i would go back to the dfml just for the in-ktv experience, with take-out being only an optional afterthought.
dfml is a classier version of amazon. amazon offers an outright debauchery in a naked lap dance. dfml offers more controlled service, attentention, coupled with enough fleshy display in the room, by better-looking women. dfml is becoming my new favourite. any brothers game to venture to ca, pm me.
When I was young I listened to the old folks bragged about how they used to do this and do that. I was supposed to look at them with admiration and to exclaim "Oh, really!"
Now I am no longer young and I found myself going on and on about the good old times like a broken record. One night I sat up in a cold sweat and realized: what the hell, the world of plenty is no more.
You can't blame an old timer for missing the old times. Truth be told, the old CP, even just a few years ago, was truely user-friendly. All you need is some time, a little money and a clean shave to charge up and down Zhong Yuan Avenue, confident in the knowledge that you shall find what you seek and she would treat you like a, well, like an ATM with an ever-changing PIN that required her to apply all her heart, mind and body to decode. Nowadays, a desperate monger is resorting to pig-like tactics to amuse himself.Hehehe bro Jim Traveller I enjoyed your self depreciating "Pigging Out" FR on Amazon KTV.
Yes back in 2008 KTV pricing is still reasonable in the pre-Mayflower and Eurasia (Ou Ya) days. Good quality KTV girls can be had for only 2-5-8. You can just bring ¥1000 to a KTV. Sit with a couple of 2-5-8 girls. Pay your share of around ¥300 for drinks and you still got some spare change to "pig out" a Mc'Donald's Value Meal at Tian Hong Shopping Mall. LOL!
Haven't been sharing much of late, and here is a recent experience I had in YH SN.
1 Sunday in August, a friend of mine dragged me there to help him pick, quite secure the way they operate, needed to call the mgr to register, then gave a code when you got to the floor.
Well, at the end, it was me who picked and my friend ended up leaving for another sn. WTF. At any rate, I violated my principle of not picking model as the height doesn't quite do it for me, but I did ended up picking model at a tender age of 21.
Personality wise, she's quite flirtatious, and she actually flirted with pretty much all the men she saw that day, o well. She had an ok body, tall, a bit of fat in the mid section, succulent perky see, great attitude, very playful, took the initiative to got me off the 1st shot before the service. We chatted to find out a bit about her, and quite mature for her age being the big sister in family. The more we shared our story, the more I feel there is something more than physical between us. Who am I kidding.
She reminded me about the time, and on to the bathroom for the service. This is where I got my money worth. She took care of every part of my body, scrubbing, caressing, catlicking, sucking, and the way she fked my third eye was just amazing. She couldn't seem to get enough of it, can you get turned on by blowing other people's trumbone? Well, she worked at it for like 15 mins and didn't seem to ever want to let go, then flipped me over for a CIM BJ. Nice!
After washing me off, we went back to bed, and she begged for another ML, well if I were 21, I would jump to the opportunity without being ask, but as much as my spirit is willing, it's going to be very very tough to get another shot out of this old man, unless I wanted to be carried out by a stretcher. After I turned her down, she suggested to give me a massage for the remainder of the 2hrs. OMG, what a mean massage she gave and I naturally fell asleep until the phone rang. We showered together before I headed out. All in all, a great session, and didn't regret picking a model. So far, the batting ave@YH SN has been quite good, I definitely will return.
There you have it bros, please share your pos / neg xp in other SN for other bros to check out.
Staid
"Lately however I have found both service and a little class in DFML (Dong Fang Mei Li) in CA (Town of ChangAn. 40min from CP). The women there are somewhere between Mayflower and the Pen in looks. Rates are 3-8-10. Mostly 6 or 7s. Nice suits make them look classier than they actually are, great attitude, fun games. If you go to the washroom, they'd wait for you by the door with a piece of tissue in hand. If you sit 3 women, the 3rd one, having just left your lap because your legs are sore from her weight, would reach out from one-seat over and massage some part of your body, so as not to make herself seem superferlous. Company directed games aimed at getting your paws onto the girls can also be fun for those who are naturally shy. In all, you feel like a king with small harem while in the KTV room. The actual take-out was nothing special, your luck between the sheets is a matter functional to so many variables that can't be easily ISO certified. Yet I would go back to the DFML just for the in-KTV experience, with take-out being only an optional afterthought."
DFML is a classier version of Amazon. Amazon offers an outright debauchery in a naked lap dance. DFML offers more controlled service, attentention, coupled with enough fleshy display in the room, by better-looking women. DFML is becoming my new favourite. Any brothers game to venture to CA, PM me.Looking back at our trip there JT I have to agree, there wasn't a loser in the room (except for that fugly your friend picked, but she was still cool). All tons of fun, apparently they
Were shutdown for the games but back up. Still talk to that mommie lookalike you graciously swapped me. The place is genuinely fun but that hotel is awful, have to bring I'd.
To get to the nice hotel next door albeit expensive at 400 / room (in the middle of no where) or cart back to CP.
Great report on Amazon. Truly pig paradise, I think DFML if they can strip again (apparently you have to wait until 12) , would top Amazon. Amazon is truly.
Brutal in looks sometimes, but perhaps just perhaps you could take a bbs girl there and then pick one and up the bbs girls wages to participate. I know.
I took a regular to fuhao who went topless, then BSD felt her up. Funny she knew but he didn't.
The quality definitely is lower, it seems so because I think there are many more girls that are 'sat' on weekends by out of town boyfriends, so tues-thurs you sometimes.
Get more talent as they sneak out. Also because before there was only 2-5-8, every girl was in that pool, now with the models. 379 etc, the quality has.
Risen in price and perhaps gets prereserved. Fuhao is like this now as you see some of the fun and pretty girls moved to models or BB category, and only
The newbies, pitas (pain in the ass) and uglies left for the ground floor. I can verify a number of girls that could be a higher category but to do that you.
Have to be nice to customer, and show up for work all the time. They don't so are 258s. Same happens at MF, if you aren't consistently coming to work.
You have to be lowest class of 258. At eurasia everyone has same rules, no coming and going as you please.
MF is so liberal on this which is why you get a risk of service. Girl gets fined? So what she doesn't show up again and might not have had a buy in so.
No risk being a dead fish.
Jude Bright
09-21-11, 01:38
Haven't been sharing much of late, and here is a recent experience I had in YH SN.
1 Sunday in August, a friend of mine dragged me there to help him pick, quite secure the way they operate, needed to call the mgr to register, then gave a code when you got to the floor.
Well, at the end, it was me who picked and my friend ended up leaving for another sn. WTF. At any rate, I violated my principle of not picking model as the height doesn't quite do it for me, but I did ended up picking model at a tender age of 21.
Personality wise, she's quite flirtatious, and she actually flirted with pretty much all the men she saw that day, o well. She had an ok body, tall, a bit of fat in the mid section, succulent perky see, great attitude, very playful, took the initiative to got me off the 1st shot before the service. We chatted to find out a bit about her, and quite mature for her age being the big sister in family. The more we shared our story, the more I feel there is something more than physical between us. Who am I kidding.
She reminded me about the time, and on to the bathroom for the service. This is where I got my money worth. She took care of every part of my body, scrubbing, caressing, catlicking, sucking, and the way she fked my third eye was just amazing. She couldn't seem to get enough of it, can you get turned on by blowing other people's trumbone? Well, she worked at it for like 15 mins and didn't seem to ever want to let go, then flipped me over for a CIM BJ. Nice!
After washing me off, we went back to bed, and she begged for another ML, well if I were 21, I would jump to the opportunity without being ask, but as much as my spirit is willing, it's going to be very very tough to get another shot out of this old man, unless I wanted to be carried out by a stretcher. After I turned her down, she suggested to give me a massage for the remainder of the 2hrs. OMG, what a mean massage she gave and I naturally fell asleep until the phone rang. We showered together before I headed out. All in all, a great session, and didn't regret picking a model. So far, the batting ave@YH SN has been quite good, I definitely will return.
There you have it bros, please share your pos / neg xp in other SN for other bros to check out.
StaidIs this the same as Yihao international hotel?
JB
MF is so liberal on this which is why you get a risk of service. Girl gets fined? So what she doesn't show up again and might not have had a buy in so.Yes the girl just lay low for a while. The girl will return to Mayflower KTV to work again with a new identity.
Is this the same as Yi Hao International Hotel?Yes Yi Hao Sauna is inside Yi Hao International Hotel.
Maildeshere
09-23-11, 21:43
DFML is becoming my new favourite. Any brothers game to venture to CA, PM me.Hey Jim,
I'm game. If you or any brudders reading this, drop me a maiil (desmondthm at hotmail dot com) so we can hook up. I'll planning to be there 7. 9 Oct. Cheers!
Maildeshere
09-23-11, 21:51
You can't blame an old timer for missing the old times. Truth be told, the old CP, even just a few years ago, was truely user-friendly. All you need is some time, a little money and a clean shave to charge up and down Zhong Yuan Avenue, confident in the knowledge that you shall find what you seek and she would treat you like a, well, like an ATM with an ever-changing PIN that required her to apply all her heart, mind and body to decode. Nowadays, a desperate monger is resorting to pig-like tactics to amuse himself.Failed to mention that the reason I'm singling you out is that I've read all your reports and I can say that we are pretty like minded on CP especially on choice on girls and the recent lack of choice over the last 18months. Looks like it is not getting any better and I'm looking for like minded brothers to venture into new spots to find the CP of old. Yes, we will be expected to pay more for the same fun some 4 years ago but in the name of economic progress I believe it is unavoidable.
Would any brothers be game to join? I speak Mandarin, although not perfect but probably enough to get by.
Maildeshere,
Firstly, I don't think there's really going to be new spots that can ever compare to the CP of old elsewhere. Yes, CA does have many KTV venues as well, but from my experience, the girls in CA are not that phenomenally more beautiful than CP girls. However, I believe that Jim Traveller did correctly state: that CA girls are more well trained than CP girls in delivering good service to their clients in a KTV setting. The management of their girls are far better than how CP manage their girls, which are laxed at best. But in terms of overall KTVs are concerned, CA girls are on par if perhaps a bit below the standard of CP in terms of looks.
Now if you are talking about Saunas, then CA Saunas are hands down better than CP overall. In fact, CA is Sauna Heaven. The girls there are so beautiful, but while they are pretty, they come at a hefty price tag. You can have real Models (With websites to prove their real model status) for prices 1500 RMB up to 2500 RMB per session. Now CP does not even come close to this price tag, nor quality. But CA does have really pretty girls in Saunas for a very hefty price tag.
In terms of overall comparison, CP is more well-rounded and convenient. CP's got dirty footies, BBS, Saunas, KTVs (of all ranges) Naked KTVs all located pretty close to each other-within a 10-15 min cab ride. However CA is a lot more spread out and sometimes going from one end of the town to the other takes upwards of 25-30 mins taxi ride. CA may have all of what CP has, but I doubt that they have as many girls working in KTV as CP has. Also with CP conveniently located near the train station, it's just a train ride away from Shenzhen, Hong Kong and Guangzhou, where CA although closer to Shenzhen requires expensive taxi rides to get anywhere close to a big city. Even if WG need to come to Dongguan to work, many of them if not most of them go to Dongguan Train Station before they transfer to other towns in Dongguan to work. So CP does have that added advantage of convenience in attracting girls to work at CP as opposed to other parts of Dongguan. So I think CP has a larger pool of girls to select from than CA, in my personal opinion.
Now, I must note that there are other towns in Dongguan that have pretty girls, but just not the volume of girls that CP has. Tangxia's got beautiful model girls at Sangem Hotel and so does Royal Garden in Dalang, Hyatt Hotel in Song Shan Hu and all of the big three hotels in Houjie- Sheraton, Cinese etc. But those are all just pockets of populations where WG exists, where as CP is truly a mongering town and really nothing else but catering to mongers. Whereas CA is factories, industries and then Mongering industry is a by-product of their surrounding businesses and prosperity.
So although girls in CP haven't been that great 18 months ago, with crackdowns like the Universidade Games, all of Dongguan towns got cracked down, including CA, but CP was better than ever because all of the WG in other places in Dongguan and Foshan and Shenzhen all came to CP to work. This flooded CP recently with some very pretty girls to choose from. So overall CP is reigns superior- during crackdowns and during normal times.
So my advice is, you can go elsewhere, but in the end people still end up coming back to CP. Venturing elsewhere is always good adventure, but the bread and butter still remains in CP- for now.
AsnDragon.
Failed to mention that the reason I'm singling you out is that I've read all your reports and I can say that we are pretty like minded on CP especially on choice on girls and the recent lack of choice over the last 18months. Looks like it is not getting any better and I'm looking for like minded brothers to venture into new spots to find the CP of old. Yes, we will be expected to pay more for the same fun some 4 years ago but in the name of economic progress I believe it is unavoidable.
Would any brothers be game to join? I speak Mandarin, although not perfect but probably enough to get by.
Jim Traveller,
You envy the brothers who can find merit int he unattractive. But in my years of Mongering, especially considering how old I am, I have notices one thing- beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The problem is, what you consider as pretty requires the girl to have three factors:
1. Tall, very tall
2. Skinny as a stick.
3. Small Watermelon seed shaped face
Now the issue with your tastes and preferences is that it's hard to find a really tall girl in China in the first place who's as skinny as you prefer with the face that you like. Your tastes are so specific that it's hard for you to find those girls. Now, I can easily say that your type of girl does not fit into the category of Beauty as other brothers on this board. For example, I don't like a girl who's too skinny with no body or breasts, so in my personal opinion, I don't think the girls you pick (Jim Traveller Girls) are the girls I want to take home to bed with. They might be girls I would like to look at for the evening, but that's about it. So although I can spot a "Jim Traveller girl" I rarely ever choose a Jim Traveller girl myself.
I know brothers that don't like girls with breasts at all, they find it disgusting and are repulsed at the sight of breasts. I know brothers that only like short girls, the shorter the better. There are also those who like only young girls, no matter their appearance, shape or size, they just like them young. I know guys that are only into legs, or butts or even the Neckline of a girl. I know brothers that like chubby girls, or rounder faced girls (usually local Guangdong guys). But the girls they choose are not necessarily unattractive, they are just unattractive to you.
I walk into BSD parties and before BSD was even hosting parties I've been to many KTV parties with a bunch of different mongers from different backgrounds. All I can say is, sometimes I am impressed by their selection and sometimes I wonder if the brother was forced to pick their girl or he's got major beer goggles while picking the girls from a line up. Bottom line is, what is attractive and unattractive is relative.
Jim Traveller girls are harder to get or encounter because they are the types on magazine covers, and those girls get sponsored by guys pretty easily. But not everyone will agree that Jim Traveller girls are their cup of tea.
But I do admit, the girls you pick are great to look at for the night, but that's about it, not the types that get my excited. But then again this is only in my personal opinion.
AsnDragon.
When I was young I listened to the old folks bragged about how they used to do this and do that. I was supposed to look at them with admiration and to exclaim "Oh, really!"
I envy the brothers who can find merit in the unattractive. Beauty is in the eye of beholder, the ones who can find beauty in plain women are truely blessed. I am, however, cursed with a very unimaginative taste. I like what most men like, that means I had to arrive early, pay top dollar, and put up with BS from self-aborbed ice queens.
DFML is a classier version of Amazon. Amazon offers an outright debauchery in a naked lap dance. DFML offers more controlled service, attentention, coupled with enough fleshy display in the room, by better-looking women. DFML is becoming my new favourite. Any brothers game to venture to CA, PM me.
Already Posted in the Shenzhen section. Question for past. Shenzhen visitors. Can anyone recommend a decent hotel centrally Located in the Luohu area with internet access? Thanks.
LAMonkey
I doubt that they have as many girls working in KTV as CP has. Also with CP conveniently located near the train station, it's just a train ride away from Shenzhen, Hong Kong and Guangzhou, where CA although closer to Shenzhen requires expensive taxi rides to get anywhere close to a big city. Even if WG need to come to Dongguan to work, many of them if not most of them go to Dongguan Train Station before they transfer to other towns in Dongguan to work. So CP does have that added advantage of convenience in attracting girls to work at CP as opposed to other parts of Dongguan. So I think CP has a larger pool of girls to select from than CA, in my personal opinion.
So although girls in CP haven't been that great 18 months ago, with crackdowns like the Universidade Games, all of Dongguan towns got cracked down, including CA, but CP was better than ever because all of the WG in other places in Dongguan and Foshan and Shenzhen all came to CP to work. This flooded CP recently with some very pretty girls to choose from. So overall CP is reigns superior- during crackdowns and during normal times.
So my advice is, you can go elsewhere, but in the end people still end up coming back to CP. Venturing elsewhere is always good adventure, but the bread and butter still remains in CP- for now.
AsnDragon.Cannot agreed more, CP just much more conveinent with everything in one place.
Fast Eddie 48
09-27-11, 03:17
Already Posted in the Shenzhen section. Question for past. Shenzhen visitors. Can anyone recommend a decent hotel centrally Located in the Luohu area with internet access? Thanks.
LAMonkeyTo Monkey,
Why are you asking question about Shenzhen here is like asking for mongering question in LA here go to Shenzhen thread and do the right thing.
Fast Eddie 48
LAMonkey,
I'm not too sure what you mean by centrally located. You mean in the Luohou district? And if in the Luhou district, which metro station? Guomao or Lao Jie or Xijuyuan?
I have some suggestions:
Guomao Metro Vicinity-
Sunshine Hotel- Kind of old, but it's location is just superb. It's about a 3. 5 star to 4 star standard. About 700 RMB from what I recall.
Panglin Hotel- Also older, but it's location is right across from Sunshine Hotel. 3.5 star to 4 star standard. Nice thing is they have a turning restaurant at the top of the hotel.
Crowne Plaza Hotel- It went through a complete facelift 4 years ago. It has a cigar bar in the bottom floor and it's close to many of the shopping venues around. Close to Seibu area.
Xi Ju Yuan Metro Vicinity-
Hyatt Hotel- Pricey but nice Buffet.
Huaan Conifer International Hotel- really nice hotel, built about 4 years ago. Right nex tto MixC shopping mall. 4 star quality.
Just some hotels that came into mind. Hope it helps.
AsnDragon.
Already Posted in the Shenzhen section. Question for past. Shenzhen visitors. Can anyone recommend a decent hotel centrally Located in the Luohu area with internet access? Thanks.
LAMonkey
SE Asia Joe
09-27-11, 07:42
To Monkey,
Why are you asking question about Shenzhen here is like asking for mongering question in LA here go to Shenzhen thread and do the right thing.
Fast Eddie 48Errrr, I think he DID already posted on the shenzhen board and said so?
And how about that this thread is way more active than the SZ one and that a lot of LA monkey's buddies post here?
And errrr, he IS gettting answers here right?
SEAJ.
Criss Thor
09-27-11, 08:18
Well friends. Again I will be in CP after 2 weeks. Unfortunatelly this time I come mainly for business (Canton Fair) but first time decided to stay in CP (everything's better) than in Guangzhou, but it means that every day I need to go to Guangzhou for the fairs. And here is the question : I know that best connection is by train from train station CP. What time should I calculate for that trip? From Clipper to the fairs? Anyone knows what is average time and cost of that connection? It's good to know it for time schedule and to plan visits in Guangzhou, still knowing that at evening in CP I can have some relax. Or maybe better is to use some vans from Clipper to the fairs? I'll be gratefull for any advice!
Robertsui321
09-27-11, 18:34
Hi brothers,
I will be in CP from 14th to 20th Oct. 2011. If any Malaysian or Singaporean brothers would like to join me for KTV and hanginng around during the day, please PM me. Also I will be attending Canton TRade Fair on either 16th or 17th, it would be great if we can share a van or MPV. Last year the MPV took us from CP hotel, sent us to the Fair in Guangzhou, waited for us and sent us back to CP by about 5. 30 PM or so. Can share out the costs.
Well friends. Again I will be in CP after 2 weeks. Unfortunatelly this time I come mainly for business (Canton Fair) but first time decided to stay in CP (everything's better) than in Guangzhou, but it means that every day I need to go to Guangzhou for the fairs. And here is the question : I know that best connection is by train from train station CP. What time should I calculate for that trip? From Clipper to the fairs? Anyone knows what is average time and cost of that connection? It's good to know it for time schedule and to plan visits in Guangzhou, still knowing that at evening in CP I can have some relax. Or maybe better is to use some vans from Clipper to the fairs? I'll be gratefull for any advice!Train fair is around 40 RMB each way I think and takes 40mins. You just get to Guangzhou East station, trains every 10 mins and another 30 mins on subway from the fair. You can buy a card for travel on the metro to save time trying to get tickets. Well worth it as you will spend a lot more on your hotel in Guangzhou, and more time looking around for double the price and half of the service for P4P if you can find any. Traveling on Chinese roads is not fun. Try to leave early to miss the rush on the Metro. I would say 2 hours max. There was a rate 120 a night on one website but would not let me book I stayed in a small hotel big room 110 RMB the doorman supplied a girl for 200 she was not that good. Ok looks but whining dead fish type. Second night I got a hotel 80 advertised outside 170 RMB inside? Make sure get real room cost ask before registering! Room had computer, pop next door for some takeaway 150
Young stunner looks best ever she blew my brains out with GFE. More potential fun was a woman 28-30 when I booked in at the same time asked if I was alone like her, and then placed her room number right in front of me. I tried
Knocking on the door but she did not answer. I'm polite so only tried gently once.
Fast Eddie 48
09-28-11, 00:31
Errrr, I think he DID already posted on the shenzhen board and said so?
And how about that this thread is way more active than the SZ one and that a lot of LA monkey's buddies post here?
And errrr, he IS gettting answers here right?
SEAJ.To SEAJ,
I think LA Mokey is doing a double post so he can get to 4000 post before you can, so still having a good old time in CP I see.
Fast Eddie 48
AsnDragon,
Thanks for the advice brother! Hope to be partying with you again in CP!
SEAJoe,
Thanks also! See you soon in CP!
LAMonkey.
LAMonkey,
I'm not too sure what you mean by centrally located. You mean in the Luohou district? And if in the Luhou district, which metro station? Guomao or Lao Jie or Xijuyuan?
I have some suggestions:
Guomao Metro Vicinity-
Sunshine Hotel- Kind of old, but it's location is just superb. It's about a 3. 5 star to 4 star standard. About 700 RMB from what I recall.
Panglin Hotel- Also older, but it's location is right across from Sunshine Hotel. 3.5 star to 4 star standard. Nice thing is they have a turning restaurant at the top of the hotel.
Crowne Plaza Hotel- It went through a complete facelift 4 years ago. It has a cigar bar in the bottom floor and it's close to many of the shopping venues around. Close to Seibu area.
Xi Ju Yuan Metro Vicinity-
Hyatt Hotel- Pricey but nice Buffet.
Huaan Conifer International Hotel- really nice hotel, built about 4 years ago. Right nex tto MixC shopping mall. 4 star quality.
Just some hotels that came into mind. Hope it helps.
AsnDragon.
RobertTsui,
So does this mean that any brothers that are NOT Malaysian or Singaporean cannot join you on your KTV party?
AsnDragon.
Hi brothers,
I will be in CP from 14th to 20th Oct. 2011. If any Malaysian or Singaporean brothers would like to join me for KTV and hanginng around during the day, please PM me. Also I will be attending Canton TRade Fair on either 16th or 17th, it would be great if we can share a van or MPV. Last year the MPV took us from CP hotel, sent us to the Fair in Guangzhou, waited for us and sent us back to CP by about 5. 30 PM or so. Can share out the costs.
Robertsui321
09-28-11, 15:21
RobertTsui,
So does this mean that any brothers that are NOT Malaysian or Singaporean cannot join you on your KTV party?
AsnDragon.AsnDragon, No offence bro. I am inviting bros to spend both days and nights together, eating, playing together. I just guess that fellow Malaysians and Sporeans are likely to have same taste in food if we eat together. As for KTV, anyone is welcome to join and sing together. I sometimes join HFIC if there are only a few of us or to save trouble of booking and hangling on KTV prices with the buggers, can be a hassle. Sometimes we go alone. What languages do you speak besides English?
Robert,
I speak: Cantonese, Mandarin, Hokkien, Indonesian, Japanese, French, Spanish and Swahili. But sorry, I don't speak Singlish though.
AsnDragon.
AsnDragon, No offence bro. I am inviting bros to spend both days and nights together, eating, playing together. I just guess that fellow Malaysians and Sporeans are likely to have same taste in food if we eat together. As for KTV, anyone is welcome to join and sing together. I sometimes join HFIC if there are only a few of us or to save trouble of booking and hangling on KTV prices with the buggers, can be a hassle. Sometimes we go alone. What languages do you speak besides English?
Robertsui321
09-29-11, 03:33
Robert,
I speak: Cantonese, Mandarin, Hokkien, Indonesian, Japanese, French, Spanish and Swahili. But sorry, I don't speak Singlish though.
AsnDragon.Sorry, I am not a Singaporean so I could not speak Singlish too. I hope you are not disappointed with this. But I am not as good as you, I can't speak any other language except English.
VampireDuck
09-30-11, 02:53
Sorry, I am not a Singaporean so I could not speak Singlish too. I hope you are not disappointed with this. But I am not as good as you, I can't speak any other language except English.Hi bros, anybody wants to party in CA on 11 oct? Looking forward again to the stripping at the KTVs! Drop me a pm.
Cheers
Well friends. Again I will be in CP after 2 weeks. Unfortunatelly this time I come mainly for business (Canton Fair) but first time decided to stay in CP (everything's better) than in Guangzhou, but it means that every day I need to go to Guangzhou for the fairs. And here is the question : I know that best connection is by train from train station CP. What time should I calculate for that trip? From Clipper to the fairs? Anyone knows what is average time and cost of that connection? It's good to know it for time schedule and to plan visits in Guangzhou, still knowing that at evening in CP I can have some relax. Or maybe better is to use some vans from Clipper to the fairs? I'll be gratefull for any advice!Bro Jamie5063 has pointed out some good tips.
Try to stay at a hotel very near to the train station in CP if you decide to use the CRH train to commute to Guangzhou daily. Trust me taking a taxi to and fro daily to the train station is a pain in the ass. During the Canton Fair period the CRH trains will be very packed. Most of the time you may have no allocated seats but to stand. Have lots of time buffer when planning your trip during this insane peak period.
Albeit more costly but the most hassle free and comfortable way is to use private transport to and fro the Canton Fair but be prepared for some jams during rush hour.
Criss Thor
09-30-11, 08:37
Bro Jamie5063 has pointed out some good tips.
Try to stay at a hotel very near to the train station in CP if you decide to use the CRH train to commute to Guangzhou daily. Trust me taking a taxi to and fro daily to the train station is a pain in the ass. During the Canton Fair period the CRH trains will be very packed. Most of the time you may have no allocated seats but to stand. Have lots of time buffer when planning your trip during this insane peak period.
Albeit more costly but the most hassle free and comfortable way is to use private transport to and fro the Canton Fair but be prepared for some jams during rush hour.Thank you and also Jamie5063 for advices! I know that is crazy period, but anyway this time we decided to stay in CP instead Guangzhou, because of relax activities. Normally we came to CP before fairs (not only canton fair) and then for the fairs period we moved to Guangzhou. But Guangzhou is poor and boring and much more expensive than CP for spending free time afternoon and evenings. So even if daily transfers will be "pain of ass" still I think it's worth to do that. Thank you and see you all, who will be in CP same time.
Big Swingin Dave
10-01-11, 17:11
The National Holiday which is also known as the Golden Week occurs October 1 to October 6.
The Canton Fair 2011. Fall Session Schedule is as follows:
Oct 15. 19.
Oct 23. 27.
Oct 31. Nov 4.
During both of these events, CP will be extremely busy and it is advisable that if you plan to visit during these times that you reserve your hotels as well as KTV parties in advance.
From a few major hotels around town (I. E. Eurasia, Yihao, HuiHua, Penninsula, perhaps a few more) , there will be direct shuttles in the morning and in the afternoon to / from the Pazhou Complex. Earliest shuttle leaves at 7am and earliest return will be around 3pm. Exact cost is yet to be determined.
So please plan ahead if you want to stay at one of the popular hotels around town if you plan to be in CP during the above time periods.
BSD
Fast Eddie 48
10-02-11, 00:04
Thank you and also Jamie5063 for advices! I know that is crazy period, but anyway this time we decided to stay in CP instead Guangzhou, because of relax activities. Normally we came to CP before fairs (not only canton fair) and then for the fairs period we moved to Guangzhou. But Guangzhou is poor and boring and much more expensive than CP for spending free time afternoon and evenings. So even if daily transfers will be "pain of ass" still I think it's worth to do that. Thank you and see you all, who will be in CP same time.To Criss,
I agree with ISO9000 if you take the CRH train is very fast when you get to Guangzhou take the subway to the Panzhou fair complex don't take the bus it take a long time, you will be back to CP at night just in time for the action I do this every yr the transit is not pain in the ass like many people thinks.
Fast Eddie 48
OldAsiaHand
10-02-11, 07:27
I was in CP last week for one night. The BBS in the Swan Lake / Yalan area were well stocked with better than average quality IMHO. The 2 BBS I visited across from the Swan Lake hotel are much better than my previous visits. Except, one of them is run by our favorite papasan from behind the Hui Mei. Although they still lock you in, he seems to have mellowed out a bit over the years.
After a brief stop at FuHao KTV to extend birthday wishes at a party for one of the esteemed Senior Members of this forum, we stopped by some low end BBS. ST FS was quoted for 60RMB (probably 50 for locals) onsite and 150 ST take-way. 300 LT. The quality was lacking but one of my wingmen opted to give it a try onsite while we waited for him outside.
I hate to admit it but I am getting picky and losing my hard core mongering spirit in my old age. I can remember a time when I would have jumped in head first at the opportunity to do girls in the sleaziest environments possible (remember the Catacombs?) just for the experience. I used to spend hours roaming dark alleys in China in the hunt for BBS. Now, I prefer only takeaway or delivery from known sources in the comfort of my own hotel room. What is happening to me?
Just my POV.
OAH
To Criss,
I agree with ISO 9000 if you take the CRH train is very fast when you get to Guangzhou take the subway to the Panzhou fair complex don't take the bus it take a long time, you will be back to CP at night just in time for the action I do this every yr the transit is not pain in the ass like many people thinks.Bro Fast Eddie 48,
Taking the train is always the fastest. However this method is not that convenient for those with bulky and heavy luggage.
I was in CP last week for one night. The BBS in the Swan Lake / Yalan area were well stocked with better than average quality IMHO. The 2 BBS I visited across from the Swan Lake hotel are much better than my previous visits. Except, one of them is run by our favorite papasan from behind the Hui Mei. Although they still lock you in, he seems to have mellowed out a bit over the years.
After a brief stop at FuHao KTV to extend birthday wishes at a party for one of the esteemed Senior Members of this forum, we stopped by some low end BBS. ST FS was quoted for 60RMB (probably 50 for locals) onsite and 150 ST take-way. 300 LT. The quality was lacking but one of my wingmen opted to give it a try onsite while we waited for him outside.Age must be catching up for that papasan. Hehehe.
The low end BBS you're talking about must be the ones along the stinky sewage drain somewhere behind Jia Yi Hotel? Those BBS are identifiable by the red lights from the shop house. I cannot remember the exact road name though.
Jettsetter
10-02-11, 11:47
To Criss,
I agree with ISO9000 if you take the CRH train is very fast when you get to Guangzhou take the subway to the Panzhou fair complex don't take the bus it take a long time, you will be back to CP at night just in time for the action I do this every yr the transit is not pain in the ass like many people thinks.
Fast Eddie 48I have to agree that CRH is probably quicker. Although there are lots of "variables" that may impede this. 1. There may not be seats available on the CRH at the time you get there. So you might have to stand for about 30 minutes on the train. In the CRH you can buy tickets for one train and board another no problem. But unless there are seats available, you won't be able to claim a seat. I usually get "first class" which is only 5 rmb more. 2. When you get to Guangzhou, the ride to the fair may be crazy. The taxi line generally is pretty crazy to begin with. Put this in the prime time to get to the fair and I'm sure we're talking even worse. What would be a great thing would be to have private transportation in Guangzhou already set up to pick you up. But that's expensive and not really worth it. 3. The train back may be crazy as well, but since you are open to return at any time, it might not be as big of a deal. 4. Lots of transfers. You kind of have to know where you are going. It's not complicated, but it's alot of switching around from cab to train to train to cab, etc.
There's just no GREAT way to get there becuase it's far. I usually never take a car to Guangzhou because it takes forever. CRH is usually better. BUT door to door is always nice as well. You can just nap the whole way and wake up at your destination. Easy.
ON the way back though, to party at the necessary times. CRH is probably your best bet. Becuase it's WAY quicker.
SE Asia Joe
10-02-11, 14:47
I have to agree that CRH is probably quicker. Although there are lots of "variables" that may impede this. 1. There may not be seats available on the CRH at the time you get there. So you might have to stand for about 30 minutes on the train. In the CRH you can buy tickets for one train and board another no problem. But unless there are seats available, you won't be able to claim a seat. I usually get "first class" which is only 5 rmb more. 2. When you get to Guangzhou, the ride to the fair may be crazy. The taxi line generally is pretty crazy to begin with. Put this in the prime time to get to the fair and I'm sure we're talking even worse. What would be a great thing would be to have private transportation in Guangzhou already set up to pick you up. But that's expensive and not really worth it. 3. The train back may be crazy as well, but since you are open to return at any time, it might not be as big of a deal. 4. Lots of transfers. You kind of have to know where you are going. It's not complicated, but it's alot of switching around from cab to train to train to cab, etc.
There's just no GREAT way to get there becuase it's far. I usually never take a car to Guangzhou because it takes forever. CRH is usually better. BUT door to door is always nice as well. You can just nap the whole way and wake up at your destination. Easy.
ON the way back though, to party at the necessary times. CRH is probably your best bet. Becuase it's WAY quicker.A couple things. Even on first class, you are NOT guaranteed to get a seat. Not unless you specify at the time of your ticket purchase that you definitely want to get a seat. You may have to wait for the one after the next departure or even 2 after. But that is the only way to be guaranteed a seat written on your ticket. First or economy class.
As for transport to / from the Trade Fair from GZE. I'd go along with Fast Eddies' suggestion that especially during the Trade Fair, that one should instead just use the subway; its quite efficient (1 transfer only) and quite predicatable as far as timing is concerned. One does have to walk quite a distance from the subway to the Fair building but its usually OK as the weather then shouldn't be too hot / rainy.
Just IMHO.
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
10-03-11, 00:25
I have to agree that CRH is probably quicker. Although there are lots of "variables" that may impede this. 1. There may not be seats available on the CRH at the time you get there. So you might have to stand for about 30 minutes on the train. In the CRH you can buy tickets for one train and board another no problem. But unless there are seats available, you won't be able to claim a seat. I usually get "first class" which is only 5 rmb more. 2. When you get to Guangzhou, the ride to the fair may be crazy. The taxi line generally is pretty crazy to begin with. Put this in the prime time to get to the fair and I'm sure we're talking even worse. What would be a great thing would be to have private transportation in Guangzhou already set up to pick you up. But that's expensive and not really worth it. 3. The train back may be crazy as well, but since you are open to return at any time, it might not be as big of a deal. 4. Lots of transfers. You kind of have to know where you are going. It's not complicated, but it's alot of switching around from cab to train to train to cab, etc.
There's just no GREAT way to get there becuase it's far. I usually never take a car to Guangzhou because it takes forever. CRH is usually better. BUT door to door is always nice as well. You can just nap the whole way and wake up at your destination. Easy.
ON the way back though, to party at the necessary times. CRH is probably your best bet. Becuase it's WAY quicker.To Jett.
I stand a few time on the CRH train is not a big deal the ride is good, the damn Guangzhou traffic even they just added 2 new subway line and the new express bus system traffic is still suck there too many people are moving to the city, the taxi ride to the fair can take 45 min from the Guangzhou east station.
Fast Eddie 48
The problem with the CRH trains south during the fair is that they are also packed. And last time I got a ticket for 2 hours later. However I just bought a 1st class ticket for a few RMB more and played dumb and got on train and just stood for the 30 min so as not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the true seat holder. My seat was on a train 2 hours later.
It was a sea of people waiting for trains and pushing through a narrow hallway to get to the train. Chaos. And take a taxi from fair to train station if you go that route.
Alternatively get a driver to pick you up (BSD knows some) perhaps he might have enough guys to split the fare. One time though we tried to drive back and it took.
6 hours due to accidents and construction, however the driver didn't know shortcuts. Get a good driver and you should get back in 2 hours or so.
Last time I tried the train - subway - walk to fair, and it was a solid 2 hours or more. On way back i did taxi-train which shaved off 30 minutes (the subway seemed to be about 20 minutes
to the fairground? and somehow it was not one stop for me... perhaps I took the wrong line, but again you had to wait to get a subway token/pass).
Also the fairgrounds are south of Guangzhou East Railway station, meaning in a taxi or subway you are going north to go south (5km).
I looked at my Guangzhou subway map again and don't see the one stop subway option.. SEAJ can you elaborate?
To Criss,
I agree with ISO9000 if you take the CRH train is very fast when you get to Guangzhou take the subway to the Panzhou fair complex don't take the bus it take a long time, you will be back to CP at night just in time for the action I do this every yr the transit is not pain in the ass like many people thinks.
Fast Eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
10-03-11, 06:15
The problem with the CRH trains south during the fair is that they are also packed. And last time I got a ticket for 2 hours later. However I just bought a 1st class ticket for a few RMB more and played dumb and got on train and just stood for the 30 min so as not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the true seat holder. My seat was on a train 2 hours later.
It was a sea of people waiting for trains and pushing through a narrow hallway to get to the train. Chaos. And take a taxi from fair to train station if you go that route.
Alternatively get a driver to pick you up (BSD knows some) perhaps he might have enough guys to split the fare. One time though we tried to drive back and it took.
6 hours due to accidents and construction, however the driver didn't know shortcuts. Get a good driver and you should get back in 2 hours or so.
Last time I tried the train. Subway. Walk to fair, and it was a solid 2 hours or more. On way back I did taxi-train which shaved off 30 minutes (the subway seemed to be about 20 minutes.
To the fairground? And somehow it was not one stop for me. Perhaps I took the wrong line, but again you had to wait to get a subway token / pass).
Also the fairgrounds are south of Guangzhou East Railway station, meaning in a taxi or subway you are going north to go south (5km).
I looked at my Guangzhou subway map again and don't see the one stop subway option. SEAJ can you elaborate?Err. I said 1 TRANSFER and not 1 STOP! I. E. Get on that Loop" line to transfer to another line which will take you to Pazhou.
2 hours? What, you were sightseeing too?
If I remember correctly, it was a bit over 30 minutes CP. GZE. 3-5 minutes to the downstairs subway, approx 20 minutes on the subway and 5-10 minutes to the entrance, so should not be over 90 minutes total. But then again, it was to go to a minor fair there and not the full blown Canton Fair. But IMHO, it's way faster than if you took a car albeit less "comfortable" of course. What with the packed trains etc.
As far as getting on an earlier train than that which your ticket is for - that is pretty well de-rigeur for most travellers in China if you're prepared to remain standing up. A good alternative would be to rush to the "dining car" - usually #5 - and park yourself at one of the seats; but this option is usually only available from the main terminus i.e. you probably could get this seat from GZE but probably not from CP as most of these will already be occupied by travellers that got on in Shenzhen.
SEAJ
Member #4144
10-03-11, 14:13
Err. I said 1 TRANSFER and not 1 STOP! I. E. Get on that Loop" line to transfer to another line which will take you to Pazhou.
2 hours? What, you were sightseeing too?
If I remember correctly, it was a bit over 30 minutes CP. GZE. 3-5 minutes to the downstairs subway, approx 20 minutes on the subway and 5-10 minutes to the entrance, so should not be over 90 minutes total. But then again, it was to go to a minor fair there and not the full blown Canton Fair. But IMHO, it's way faster than if you took a car albeit less "comfortable" of course. What with the packed trains etc.
As far as getting on an earlier train than that which your ticket is for. That is pretty well de-rigeur for most travellers in China if you're prepared to remain standing up. A good alternative would be to rush to the "dining car". Usually #5. And park yourself at one of the seats; but this option is usually only available from the main terminus I. E. You probably could get this seat from GZE but probably not from CP as most of these will already be occupied by travellers that got on in Shenzhen.
SEAJIt was already 90 min for me on Friday afternoons after 4pm, without the fair. Now they had this stupid real-name ticketing, so just to get a train ticket alone takes 30 min.
Why not stay in Panyu? The ktvs in Panyu are quite good, albert less wild when compared to CP, but you can just taxi to and from the fair all inside 30 min.
Fillmore
It was already 90 min for me on Friday afternoons after 4pm, without the fair. Now they had this stupid real-name ticketing, so just to get a train ticket alone takes 30 min.
FillmoreAre they still asking for passports and IDs to take those trains? I thought that was just for the Shenzhen games not a permanent.
Thing. Yes that adds alot of time to the travel and they don't let you buy in advance so that sucks.
SEAJ 2 hours is very realistic, and I think it took me even a little longer than that if you count the
20 min walk once you arrive since you don't arrive anywhere near the entrance to the fair (unless I got.
Out at the wrong stop but I was following someone with a Show badge).
Fast Eddie 48
10-03-11, 21:39
Are they still asking for passports and IDs to take those trains? I thought that was just for the Shenzhen games not a permanent.
Thing. Yes that adds alot of time to the travel and they don't let you buy in advance so that sucks.
SEAJ 2 hours is very realistic, and I think it took me even a little longer than that if you count the
20 min walk once you arrive since you don't arrive anywhere near the entrance to the fair (unless I got.
Out at the wrong stop but I was following someone with a Show badge).To Freespeak
I think the goverment want to I'd everyone taking the train, I know the ticket machine now need a China resident I'd to buy ticket if you only have a foreigner passport or even HKID you need to go to the ticket counter and they scan the I'd there, they have been doing this at the airport for 2 yr and check th I'd again on boarding flight, they are not doing that yet on train but the CRH station in the new Guangzhou south station have I'd scanner on boarding gate.
Fast Eddie 48
are they still asking for passports and ids to take those trains? i thought that was just for the shenzhen games not a permanent.
thing. yes that adds alot of time to the travel and they don't let you buy in advance so that sucks.
seaj 2 hours is very realistic, and i think it took me even a little longer than that if you count the
20 min walk once you arrive since you don't arrive anywhere near the entrance to the fair (unless i got.
out at the wrong stop but i was following someone with a show badge).all high speed trains in china need real-name ticketing. you only can buy tickets with your i'd or passport.
johnps
SE Asia Joe
10-05-11, 07:08
Just FYI, I met Brian one of the managers at Mango – that bar on Swan Lake road where the modus operandi may just better suit some of you who are more used to the way things work in other countries. Brian is Cantonese speaking AND quite conversant in English / actually going to advanced English lessons during the daytime and is just a nice, eager and helpful guy overall.
Basically, Mango is a stand up bar with some live music where the girls just hangs out, ready to be sat and or taken out. Pretty well the same way that Pick-up joints like Neptune or those in Bangkok, the States etc works. They've got their own in-house girls at 2-5-8 AS WELL AS girls from various KTV's / BBS's / Saunas' just hanging out and partying themselves – so it's a wide open field!
They've got 4 KTV rooms at the back, but these are not that popular as most guys – especially singletons – prefer to just hang around the main bar area to scout around – or just to party / enjoy the music and the scenery.
Beer is RMB 300 / dozen whilst hard liquor is available by the bottle at around RMB 500-600 including some mixers. Right now, they've still got their promotion of 'no minimum charge' and thus theoretically, you can still go in and just have one beer at RMB25@- but who goes to a bar and only order one drink – especially when you'the want to be buying drinks for a gal / gals you're targeting. Note that since this is a bar set-up, that you shouldn't expect to be 'served' as is expected at a regular KTV – rather, you'the have to make your own moves and act the way you'the act in a pick-up bar anywhere in the world – including of course making sure that her 'rate' is indeed going to be 2-5-8 PRIOR to you having her sit for longer than a few initial minutes etc.
OTOH, there's nothing to stop you from just joining a girl out on the dance floor whilst she's dancing and then asking her to join you for a drink or 2 (or indeed any girl even if she's not dancing of course!) – but on this, you may want to ask Brian to help you out as it's not really cool to have any misunderstanding – especially in a place like Mango as most of the patrons are quite 'local' and one really does not want to have any controversies.
It's also a good place to go to if you're on a 'date night' as the live music, interspersed by some pretty good KTV singers ain't bad at all and probably a helpful respite from trying to converse with your date if you're not fluent in Chinese!
Please PM me if you want to have Brian's contacts etc.
SEAJ
Sucks for the girls going to Dongguan since a good number don't have an I'd, therefore can't go to shenzhen on CRH or take the fast train from Guangzhou station.
I have gotten away with using a copied passport since I didn't have mine on me. But that was because I was foreign and being nice.
Sucks for the girls going to Dongguan since a good number don't have an I'd, therefore can't go to shenzhen on CRH or take the fast train from Guangzhou station.
I have gotten away with using a copied passport since I didn't have mine on me. But that was because I was foreign and being nice.You can always take the bus to SZ. There are buses at Miraton and New Century Hotel. Cost is about $40 rmb. When on the bus, smile when they start videotaping everyone.
SEAJOE,
Was Mango Bar in the same place that use to be called Face Bar, near Swan Lake Shopping Plaza mall?
It's interesting how you describe the place to be. I almost seems like California Red, except there's actually dancing. Every time I go to california red, nobody is ever dancing. I see more fights that go on in and outside of California Red than I do of anything else.
But I am interested and would love to check out the place with you SEAJOE. I think hanging out with you- a 29 year old Swedish Guy will help me attract attention and potentially be able to pick up chicks a bit easier.
I must admit that an old man like me, even after coming to CP for so many year, have not step foot into one of these Bar scenes and picked up random girls that work at KTV, Saunas etc. I think it's a bit of challenge for me but I think it's worth a try. Anyone up for the challenge?
AsnDragon.
Just FYI, I met Brian one of the managers at Mango – that bar on Swan Lake road where the modus operandi may just better suit some of you who are more used to the way things work in other countries. Brian is Cantonese speaking AND quite conversant in English / actually going to advanced English lessons during the daytime and is just a nice, eager and helpful guy overall.
Basically, Mango is a stand up bar with some live music where the girls just hangs out, ready to be sat and or taken out. Pretty well the same way that Pick-up joints like Neptune or those in Bangkok, the States etc works. They've got their own in-house girls at 2-5-8 AS WELL AS girls from various KTV's / BBS's / Saunas' just hanging out and partying themselves – so it's a wide open field!
They've got 4 KTV rooms at the back, but these are not that popular as most guys – especially singletons – prefer to just hang around the main bar area to scout around – or just to party / enjoy the music and the scenery.
Beer is RMB 300 / dozen whilst hard liquor is available by the bottle at around RMB 500-600 including some mixers. Right now, they've still got their promotion of 'no minimum charge' and thus theoretically, you can still go in and just have one beer at RMB25@- But who goes to a bar and only order one drink – especially when you'the want to be buying drinks for a gal / gals you're targeting. Note that since this is a bar set-up, that you shouldn't expect to be 'served' as is expected at a regular KTV – rather, you'the have to make your own moves and act the way you'the act in a pick-up bar anywhere in the world – including of course making sure that her 'rate' is indeed going to be 2-5-8 PRIOR to you having her sit for longer than a few initial minutes etc.
OTOH, there's nothing to stop you from just joining a girl out on the dance floor whilst she's dancing and then asking her to join you for a drink or 2 (or indeed any girl even if she's not dancing of course!) – but on this, you may want to ask Brian to help you out as it's not really cool to have any misunderstanding – especially in a place like Mango as most of the patrons are quite 'local' and one really does not want to have any controversies.
It's also a good place to go to if you're on a 'date night' as the live music, interspersed by some pretty good KTV singers ain't bad at all and probably a helpful respite from trying to converse with your date if you're not fluent in Chinese!
Please PM me if you want to have Brian's contacts etc.
SEAJ
OAH,
I think this is all due to a few factors.
1. You have been such a long time veteran of the Mongering trade that perhaps you have become a bit numb to the whole mongering scene. I mean you must have seen or done 1000+ girls over the years. So after a while, I think it takes a bit more excitement, than just the regular 1-2-3 in the bed. So I think you start to only gravitate towards the really good looking girls- as they are the only ones that arouse a bit of interest now- because they are special, not just regular looking like all of the random girls you see day in and day out on the streets.
2. I think the next factor is you have been in the freebie scene too long recently. As a result of getting freebies, there's a bit of emotional involvement between you and your freebie. Sure, I'm certain that you try to distance yourself and make sure it's just plain sex and nothing more. But over time, I think this type of arrangement turns you on. You get use to doing a girl who really wants to have sex with you, just to have sex, instead of doing a girl who is emotionless in bed and just trying to get you to come in 10 mins so they can rob you of your 150 or 250 RMB. I think that your emotional connections with your freebies has made you use to sex with emotions. When you get a freebie, they obviously, not only like to have sex with you, but they have to like you in order to have sex with you. That emotional connection has made sex all that much more enjoyable. It's harder to revert back to just sex with a WG anymore.
In the end. After mongering for a while. Sometimes you just want to have sex with someone you like.
That's my opinion.
AsnDragon.
I was in CP last week for one night. The BBS in the Swan Lake / Yalan area were well stocked with better than average quality IMHO. The 2 BBS I visited across from the Swan Lake hotel are much better than my previous visits. Except, one of them is run by our favorite papasan from behind the Hui Mei. Although they still lock you in, he seems to have mellowed out a bit over the years.
After a brief stop at FuHao KTV to extend birthday wishes at a party for one of the esteemed Senior Members of this forum, we stopped by some low end BBS. ST FS was quoted for 60RMB (probably 50 for locals) onsite and 150 ST take-way. 300 LT. The quality was lacking but one of my wingmen opted to give it a try onsite while we waited for him outside.
I hate to admit it but I am getting picky and losing my hard core mongering spirit in my old age. I can remember a time when I would have jumped in head first at the opportunity to do girls in the sleaziest environments possible (remember the Catacombs?) just for the experience. I used to spend hours roaming dark alleys in China in the hunt for BBS. Now, I prefer only takeaway or delivery from known sources in the comfort of my own hotel room. What is happening to me?
Just my POV.
OAH
Robertsui321
10-07-11, 16:12
You can always take the bus to SZ. There are buses at Miraton and New Century Hotel. Cost is about $40 rmb. When on the bus, smile when they start videotaping everyone.It seems for at least a year there are no more buses to Shenzen airport from the Miraton hotel. I was there in July, and none. Where did you go in Miraton hotel? Was it SZ airport or someother place in SZ. Thanks if you can enlighten me.
It seems for at least a year there are no more buses to Shenzen airport from the Miraton hotel. I was there in July, and none. Where did you go in Miraton hotel? Was it SZ airport or someother place in SZ. Thanks if you can enlighten me.As of early this year, there were buses leaving for SZ at the 7-11 store in front of Miraton. You buy your tickets at a small booth. There are two girls sitting inside there are very ruled if you ask questions. There are to Lo Wu and Huanggang borders in SZ. I believe it's the same company at New Century Hotel. There are mini vans to the HK airport from Hui Mei Hotel. I'm not sure but I believe there are also buses for Tsim Sha Tsui in HK to CP.
I don't know about buses or transportation to SZ airport.
I will be arriving HKIA 6pm on a Saturday then need to get to Yihao. From reading the forums, it sounds like van / bus is the best way to go in terms of cost and time (unless anyone has a better suggestion). I have seen the Mainland Coaches page on the HKIA website. There are several coach companies to choose from, does anyone know if any have routes stopping at or near Yihao? Also, can I just show up and expect to be able to buy a coach ticket or do I need to make arrangements in advance?
Thanks in advance for the help.
Turtlehead
10-07-11, 22:29
Hi Guys,
My group of 10 years have slowed down and I'm looking for some new company in DG. In my group. 2 moved away, and 3 got into some serious relationships, so things are not the same anymore.
I think I met a few here through some of David's parties. Basically, I live in HK and come up a couple times a month. Grew up in the states and have been back for a long while. I don't drink much so when I go to K I like to hang with a group that don't go crazy with booze. I prefer going out with the gals like on a date. Dinner and something else. I like good music and dance with the girls. I pretty much know the lay of the land up there. Would like to learn more about the Swan Lake area.
Hope to meet up with a few of you guys that are in similar situation. Up there a couple times a week. Please post if I can join your group sometime.
Robertsui321
10-08-11, 05:59
As of early this year, there were buses leaving for SZ at the 7-11 store in front of Miraton. You buy your tickets at a small booth. There are two girls sitting inside there are very ruled if you ask questions. There are to Lo Wu and Huanggang borders in SZ. I believe it's the same company at New Century Hotel. There are mini vans to the HK airport from Hui Mei Hotel. I'm not sure but I believe there are also buses for Tsim Sha Tsui in HK to CP.
I don't know about buses or transportation to SZ airport.You are right on all the points, Incl the part that the 2 gals are bloody rude. Except there is no buses to SZ airport. I normally take private car, book a sedan car, cost RMB200 fr CP to SZ airport. I also take private car book whole day to CTF, last time RMB670, now asking for RMB800.
SE Asia Joe
10-08-11, 12:38
Was just strolling on Zhong Yuan Street (the main hotel drag) in Chang Ping and frankly, am amazed at all the changes on it which I did not notice previously.
Going to try to go to a few of these new places soon but I observe that the old PP KTV has had a total facelift and now it sports a Veggie KTV on one floor as well as a place named Capital Club. Which appears to be some kind of high class club / retaurant; A bill board announces "Red Wine and Dinner". Whatever that means?
Up the street, the old Lucky Hotel also had a complete facelift and it looks as if they're going to also have some kind of KTV, restaurant, shopping centre and? On the other side, the Mezzanine floor of the old Red Lion Hotel is now a huge Coffee shop named Mystery cafe and then around the corner on the G / F is that nice, rather fancy (but not that expensive) fusion Japanese restaurant.
The upper floors of the Pozolim is now the Legends cafe and the other new footsie place and around the corner is the Boton Steak house. Expensive and not worth it IMHO. But then again, who goes to CP to eat Steak?
As I said, I never prior to this, noticed all the new things sprouting out in CP. And most of them seem to be of the higher class category. There goes the cheap places we all love and are used to! OTOH, our old favorite the Mito is still serving their 2-5 PM ABC deals at RMB 27 or 22 for just A+C, and still the best place to view / obeserve the SOP of CP!
SEAJ
You are right on all the points, Incl the part that the 2 gals are bloody rude. Except there is no buses to SZ airport. I normally take private car, book a sedan car, cost RMB200 fr CP to SZ airport. I also take private car book whole day to CTF, last time RMB670, now asking for RMB800.What is CTF? How do you arrange for the private car? If you do it on the streets, it's a little dangerous.
SE Asia Joe
10-08-11, 17:58
What is CTF? How do you arrange for the private car? If you do it on the streets, it's a little dangerous.CTF = Canton Trade Fair.
And the bus from the little booth outside the Miraton. Its RMB 40 to Luohu and 35 to Huangang. But I wonder who would take the bus to Luohu anymore since the train is much faster (around 26 minutes) and its lot more comfortable for an extra RMB 5.
Roberttsui. You only paid RMB 200 to go to SZ airport by car? That's a very good price. How did you get that price?
BTW. There is a buses from Luohu to the SZ airport; not sure any more of the details etc as the last time I took it was quite a while ago, but I remember it was a decent way to get to the airport.
SEAJ
What's the best route from CP to Macau?
Train from CP to Shenzhen, then ferry to Macau?
Or Train from CP to Kowloon, then ferry to Macau?
Thanks
Robertsui321
10-08-11, 19:12
CTF = Canton Trade Fair.
And the bus from the little booth outside the Miraton. Its RMB 40 to Luohu and 35 to Huangang. But I wonder who would take the bus to Luohu anymore since the train is much faster (around 26 minutes) and its lot more comfortable for an extra RMB 5.
Roberttsui. You only paid RMB 200 to go to SZ airport by car? That's a very good price. How did you get that price?
BTW. There is a buses from Luohu to the SZ airport; not sure any more of the details etc as the last time I took it was quite a while ago, but I remember it was a decent way to get to the airport.
SEAJSEAJ, actually, the price is std price offered by a few transport agents based in CP, their ad can be found in the ISG ad section. I have a chap that I used regualrly in the last few years, he always tried to charge a bit extra until I told him the std rate offered by agents. For RMB200 (SZ airport to CP or vice versa) .4 persons can sit in, for MPV costs 250, and sits 7 persons. I just pasted the price below:
SHENZHEN AIRPORT <- CHANGPING [200RMB SEDAN CAR / 250RMB MPV, ONE WAY]
&28145; &22323; &26426; &22330; <- &24120; &24179; &12304; &23567; &36710; 200&20803; &65292; &21830; &21153; &36710; 250&20803; &12305;
SEAJOE,
As with everything in China, it usually only gets better, more advanced and more expensive.
I am curious to try out that legend cafe foot massage above pozilim. They decorated that place like a cigar lounge, really high class establishment.
In terms of the best places to check out the beautiful girls walking by here are my top favorites:
1. Legend Cafe on Swan Lake Road / Yuen Long Hong Kong Cafe on Swan Lake Road.
2. Mito Cafe on the bottom floor, you get to see all the great girls who live near huimei / new century area.
3. Boton Restaurant across from McDonalds on Pedestrian Outside Mall Area- Many great girls who live in the high rise building behind Boton and many girls who go to the internet cafe near that area.
If it were up to me, I'd open up a cafe in Hua Lun second floor where all of the girls are doing their makeup at 1-3 pm. That place is littered with beautiful girls getting their makeup done. I would just love to hang out there during those hours to see these girls get ready for their night jobs. Also it allows you to sort of filter out what the girl looks like before and after makeup. Certainly one of the most crazy sights to go there on a Friday at 1-2 pm, where girls are there lining up to get their makeup done in those makeup shops.
AsnDragon.
Was just strolling on Zhong Yuan Street (the main hotel drag) in Chang Ping and frankly, am amazed at all the changes on it which I did not notice previously.
Going to try to go to a few of these new places soon but I observe that the old PP KTV has had a total facelift and now it sports a Veggie KTV on one floor as well as a place named Capital Club. Which appears to be some kind of high class club / retaurant; A bill board announces "Red Wine and Dinner". Whatever that means?
Up the street, the old Lucky Hotel also had a complete facelift and it looks as if they're going to also have some kind of KTV, restaurant, shopping centre and? On the other side, the Mezzanine floor of the old Red Lion Hotel is now a huge Coffee shop named Mystery cafe and then around the corner on the G / F is that nice, rather fancy (but not that expensive) fusion Japanese restaurant.
The upper floors of the Pozolim is now the Legends cafe and the other new footsie place and around the corner is the Boton Steak house. Expensive and not worth it IMHO. But then again, who goes to CP to eat Steak?
As I said, I never prior to this, noticed all the new things sprouting out in CP. And most of them seem to be of the higher class category. There goes the cheap places we all love and are used to! OTOH, our old favorite the Mito is still serving their 2-5 PM ABC deals at RMB 27 or 22 for just A+C, and still the best place to view / obeserve the SOP of CP!
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
10-09-11, 04:56
What's the best route from CP to Macau?
Train from CP to Shenzhen, then ferry to Macau?
Or Train from CP to Kowloon, then ferry to Macau?
ThanksTo SDEVAN.
There have been many post about direct bus tp Macau CTS bus from Hui Mei hotel in CP 3 time a day 75 rmb one way 125 rmb round trip to Gonbei border in Zhu Hai and then to Macau take about 2 hr 30 min.
Fast Eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
10-09-11, 06:07
SEAJOE,
As with everything in China, it usually only gets better, more advanced and more expensive.
I am curious to try out that legend cafe foot massage above pozilim. They decorated that place like a cigar lounge, really high class establishment.
In terms of the best places to check out the beautiful girls walking by here are my top favorites:
1. Legend Cafe on Swan Lake Road / Yuen Long Hong Kong Cafe on Swan Lake Road.
2. Mito Cafe on the bottom floor, you get to see all the great girls who live near huimei / new century area.
3. Boton Restaurant across from McDonalds on Pedestrian Outside Mall Area- Many great girls who live in the high rise building behind Boton and many girls who go to the internet cafe near that area.
If it were up to me, I'd open up a cafe in Hua Lun second floor where all of the girls are doing their makeup at 1-3 pm. That place is littered with beautiful girls getting their makeup done. I would just love to hang out there during those hours to see these girls get ready for their night jobs. Also it allows you to sort of filter out what the girl looks like before and after makeup. Certainly one of the most crazy sights to go there on a Friday at 1-2 pm, where girls are there lining up to get their makeup done in those makeup shops.
AsnDragon.LOL! As it so happens, I just had dinner last night at that Legends cafe at the new footsie place on top of the Pozolim. The Legends club. And although the food was very good and cheap I. E. Circa RMB 20 to 28 for most dishes, the "viewing" there was GROSS! All I saw was GUYS coming in an out headed up to/from the footsie!
On your thoughts about Huaren shopping centre. A GREAT place to look at the SOP going in and out there is to park yourself at the front seats of the McDonalds below it. Lots to see! Same as the McDonald's below the Rainbow Department store. Lots of girls from the apartments above and surrounds.
Another great place for SOP viewing is that DJ Taste Taiwanese restaurant next to the Pozolim. If you manage to get one of the 2 "circular" seating to the front, as well as the Happy together restaurants in front of the Hui Mei. Weather's nice for sitting outside now and be out there to make eyes at the gals passing by.
SEAJ.
LOL! As it so happens, I just had dinner last night at that Legends cafe at the new footsie place on top of the Pozolim. The Legends club. And although the food was very good and cheap I. E. Circa RMB 20 to 28 for most dishes, the "viewing" there was GROSS! All I saw was GUYS coming in an out headed up to / from the footsie!
On your thoughts about Huaren shopping centre. A GREAT place to look at the SOP going in and out there is to park yourself at the front seats of the McDonalds below it. Lots to see! Same as the McDonald's below the Rainbow Department store. Lots of girls from the apartments above and surrounds.
Another great place for SOP viewing is that DJ Taste Taiwanese restaurant next to the Pozolim. If you manage to get one of the 2 "circular" seating to the front, as well as the Happy together restaurants in front of the Hui Mei. Weather's nice for sitting outside now and be out there to make eyes at the gals passing by.
SEAJ.Is the Legends food the same as the Swan Lake place? Love the food there.
Most of the girls from the Rainbow building exit in the back, difficult to get good view from McD I think.
DJ Taste. Is the food any good? And Happy together might have the best street food but it often takes them an hour or more to serve the.
Food so you are likely to miss the flower street! And it is expensive too.
Perhaps the food cart by Amazon should be the top place to watch as there are at least 5 makeup places in a row for the mayflower incoming.
Girls.
SE Asia Joe
10-09-11, 07:41
is the legends food the same as the swan lake place? love the food there.
most of the girls from the rainbow building exit in the back, difficult to get good view from mcd i think.
dj taste. is the food any good? and happy together might have the best street food but it often takes them an hour or more to serve the.
food so you are likely to miss the flower street! and it is expensive too.
perhaps the food cart by amazon should be the top place to watch as there are at least 5 makeup places in a row for the mayflower incoming.
girls.i think the zhong yuan st. legend club tailor make their food to be consumed whilst a guy gets a footsie done i. e. more single plates and not much food variety "to be shared" as in the swan lake one. and i think its cheaper here vs swl whilst the quality is as good if not better, perhaps as a way to attract more guys to patronize their footsie. and the place seems to hardly ever be busy so that's another bonus if you want a nice quiet and quite classy place to hang out at. just imho of course.
i also noticed last night that there is a supposed malaysian restaurant next to the legend cafe but the food pictures on the wall going up to the place don't look like any malaysian food. i peered in and the place seems to be pretty nice looking though.
yes on the rainbow mcdonalds. but there are still those who saunters around to mcdonalds and it is a 24 hour place. so worth it to go to when other places around already closed. but that alley behind the rainbow gets closed off to traffic after 11 or so and turns into a full fledged "food street" where the gals who lives at the rainbow apartment building go to after work. so that's another great spot to park oneself for cheap food street and oogling, and perhaps, just perhaps, get lucky at chatting up a neighbouring patron of whichever stall you happen to be at!
the dj taste have pretty good taiwanese style food and good for smaller snacks as their portion are quite small. just a li'l bit expensive but i like going there as i like their salty "dau jeung" (soyabean milk) with the yao tiu (fried dough sticks). their "western breakfast" is a good deal as you get a pretty good coffee with the egg, sausage and toast - which is made out of that thick bread that i like.
as for happy together, yes, their food actually sucks and is expensive imho, but when the weather's nice like this, its a great place to just sit on their outdoor patio to take in the "air" of cp!
seaj
To SDEVAN.
There have been many post about direct bus tp Macau CTS bus from Hui Mei hotel in CP 3 time a day 75 rmb one way 125 rmb round trip to Gonbei border in Zhu Hai and then to Macau take about 2 hr 30 min.
Fast Eddie 48I've heard that taking the bus to Zhu Hai takes longer (3 hours) whereas taking train then ferry is shorter (40 min train + 40 min ferry = 1. 5 hours). Was wondering if anybody actually take this route (train then ferry) to shave time off the trip. I am planning a day trip so the less time spent traveling the better for me. Thanks.
Fast Eddie 48
10-10-11, 01:18
The resturant Business is very tough in CP most don't survive more than 6 month, there have been more Malay and Singapore resturant in the last 3 yr in CP, the Buk kuh the closed 3 month after they open near the food st with more crack down many HK monger stop coming to CP most only have business on weekend, my HK friend want to open a Cigar and wine bar in CP and I told them not to he should open it in SZ or Guangzhou.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie,
I do agree with you, that surviving in the restaurant business is quite tough. The restaurant that Freepeaks mentioned above Pozilim, I went there with BruceTea and the food there was not good to begin with. But you can tell they actually put quite a bit of money to renovate the whole place. Not to mention that their dishes were not cheap either.
I don't know why there's so many malay and singaporean restaurants opening in CP. Most of them fail fairly miserably. The only one I know that's still running strong is the one in Haixia Apartments next to McDonald's. The problem with Malay and Singaporean food is that its target audience is so narrow- only singaporeans and Malaysians will appreciate their tastes and cuisine style. The problem is there's not that many Malay and Singaporeans in CP. Sure they do come in large groups once in a while, but overall there's not that many of them in CP.
Hong Kong guys, overall still dominate the CP scene. So that's why you see so many Hong Kong Style Restaurants that are still running strong all over CP. The frequency of HK people are once every week so they still have a fighting chance.
In addition, I've tried to take my girls out to eat Singaporean and Malaysian food and many of them don't like to eat at those places. So then I end up in some Hong Kong cafe or, Mcdonalds or some Hot Spicy Local restaurant. In comparison, the Hunan restaurant right next to the Legend Footie place is doing really well! Their cuisine and cooking style is something WG like to go to, and not that spicy that most Mongers can handle, so their business is off the hook.
So perhaps people should also consider targeting and considering that the girls that the guys are with are beginning to have a say in where they dine and spend their money at.
AsnDragon.
The resturant Business is very tough in CP most don't survive more than 6 month, there have been more Malay and Singapore resturant in the last 3 yr in CP, the Buk kuh the closed 3 month after they open near the food st with more crack down many HK monger stop coming to CP most only have business on weekend, my HK friend want to open a Cigar and wine bar in CP and I told them not to he should open it in SZ or Guangzhou.
Fast Eddie 48
seajoe,
although i must admit that the air quality has gotten a whole lot better than back in when i first came in 2002-2003 (the air back then was literally unbreatheable during summer, with a mixture of petroleum, dust and carbon monoxide exhaust) i wouldn't imagine wanting take in the "air" in cp. lol.
i actually really like dj taste. it's much better since they have recently renovated the place. i believe that's where we had lunch last time correct? the first time i had dj taste was actually in zhangmutou back 9 years ago or so. it was actually my first restaurant in dongguan area and i actually enjoyed the soybean milk and their thin crusted onion pancake.
btw, how's the quality of girls in cp these days?
asndragon.
i think the zhong yuan st. legend club tailor make their food to be consumed whilst a guy gets a footsie done i. e. more single plates and not much food variety "to be shared" as in the swan lake one. and i think its cheaper here vs swl whilst the quality is as good if not better, perhaps as a way to attract more guys to patronize their footsie. and the place seems to hardly ever be busy so that's another bonus if you want a nice quiet and quite classy place to hang out at. just imho of course.
i also noticed last night that there is a supposed malaysian restaurant next to the legend cafe but the food pictures on the wall going up to the place don't look like any malaysian food. i peered in and the place seems to be pretty nice looking though.
yes on the rainbow mcdonalds. but there are still those who saunters around to mcdonalds and it is a 24 hour place. so worth it to go to when other places around already closed. but that alley behind the rainbow gets closed off to traffic after 11 or so and turns into a full fledged "food street" where the gals who lives at the rainbow apartment building go to after work. so that's another great spot to park oneself for cheap food street and oogling, and perhaps, just perhaps, get lucky at chatting up a neighbouring patron of whichever stall you happen to be at!
the dj taste have pretty good taiwanese style food and good for smaller snacks as their portion are quite small. just a li'l bit expensive but i like going there as i like their salty "dau jeung" (soyabean milk) with the yao tiu (fried dough sticks). their "western breakfast" is a good deal as you get a pretty good coffee with the egg, sausage and toast. which is made out of that thick bread that i like.
as for happy together, yes, their food actually sucks and is expensive imho, but when the weather's nice like this, its a great place to just sit on their outdoor patio to take in the "air" of cp!
seaj
SE Asia Joe
10-10-11, 05:30
I've heard that taking the bus to Zhu Hai takes longer (3 hours) whereas taking train then ferry is shorter (40 min train + 40 min ferry = 1. 5 hours). Was wondering if anybody actually take this route (train then ferry) to shave time off the trip. I am planning a day trip so the less time spent traveling the better for me. Thanks.NOt 100% sure but I know train to HungHom w / customs etc will at least be 80 minutes, the taxi to the Kowloon side Macau ferry pier PLUS waiting for the rather infrequent departures will at least be 30 minutes and then another 70 minutes for both sides custom and the hour ferry ride. No way yo'd make it under 3 hours this method.
Perhaps best to go by private car / taxi to Shekou and time it to catch the right ferry to Macau. (Approx an hour) to shave time just a little.
Just IMHO.
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
10-10-11, 05:32
I've heard that taking the bus to Zhu Hai takes longer (3 hours) whereas taking train then ferry is shorter (40 min train + 40 min ferry = 1. 5 hours). Was wondering if anybody actually take this route (train then ferry) to shave time off the trip. I am planning a day trip so the less time spent traveling the better for me. Thanks.To Sdevan,
If you are only go to Gonbei Zhu hai is only 2 hr 30 min but if you go all the way to Macau you need to cross the border, that you take over 3 hr if you take train and ferry it will take longer waiting and crossing border, there is no way you can do it in 1. 5 hr only if you have a helicopter stop dreaming and use your head.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
10-10-11, 05:54
SEAJOE,
Although I must admit that the air quality has gotten a whole lot better than back in when I first came in 2002-2003 (the air back then was literally unbreatheable during summer, with a mixture of petroleum, dust and carbon monoxide exhaust) I wouldn't imagine wanting take in the "air" in CP. LOL.
I actually really like DJ Taste. It's much better since they have recently renovated the place. I believe that's where we had lunch last time correct? The first time I had DJ Taste was actually in Zhangmutou back 9 years ago or so. It was actually my first restaurant in Dongguan Area and I actually enjoyed the soybean milk and their thin crusted onion pancake.
BTW, how's the quality of girls in CP these days?
AsnDragon.To Asndragon,
The air is cleaner because there are much less people with factory and business closed, most of them move to big city like Guangzhou and SZ, plus crack down and high crime last few yr many HK monger stop coming during the week CP is like a ghost town now you can buy a condo dirt cheap now in CP.
Fast Eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
10-10-11, 07:19
To Asndragon,
The air is cleaner because there are much less people with factory and business closed, most of them move to big city like Guangzhou and SZ, plus crack down and high crime last few yr many HK monger stop coming during the week CP is like a ghost town now you can buy a condo dirt cheap now in CP.
Fast Eddie 48WHAAAAATTT?
You're writing about Chang Ping. Right? The only place in Southern China that has up to now NOT experienced much by way of Strike hard campaigns and has been spared most of the excesses in other S. China municipatlities. Chang Ping which has all sorts of New / rebuilt buildings, hotels, clubs, restaurants, KTV's etc and one where hotel booking is quite hard to come by especially as we're in the Canton Trade Fair season.
And its " like a ghost town now you can buy a condo dirt cheap now in CP?"
Where please?
I'd like to soon get a place to buy as prices had always been quite reasonable versus other S. China centers.
When were you here last Eddie?
SEAJ
as for happy together, yes, their food actually sucks and is expensive imho, but when the weather's nice like this, its a great place to just sit on their outdoor patio to take in the "air" of cp!
seajgood to hear the food is good there, as pozolim i honestly don't like the food at all. don't see what some people seem to like about it. also unless dave.
is there, we often get sent to a crappy room (i went with a brother once and we had a small crappy room. my chair was against the wall.). tv sucked and wall.
paper was peeling. i think they have renovated a bit but i'm open to new places.
yes the food stalls behind rainbow could be golden to find some dessert.
happy together is like 35 rmb for their 'orange juice' or any drink. the pricing is way to expensive and the food lousy, at least they know the first 3 rules in business.
location, location, location.
Fast Eddie,
I do agree with you, that surviving in the restaurant business is quite tough. The restaurant that Freepeaks mentioned above Pozilim, I went there with BruceTea and the food there was not good to begin with. But you can tell they actually put quite a bit of money to renovate the whole place. Not to mention that their dishes were not cheap either.
AsnDragon.Alot of places think they can charge whatever they want, (like the Hunan place above Pozolim) and survive on the price. The Hunan place by Chinese standards is expensive but their food I think is some of the best in CP. They have excellent soup and spicy dishes. I always eat there 2-3 times when in town and as a bonus you always get 20-30-50 off your next meal coupon when there. Depending on what you spend. Dishes are 35-55 and very very good with vegetables 8-15. Their sweet buns (the steamed or baked ones with a sweet sauce) are really good there as is the bone soup.
Legend will last because they are clean (especially compared to the alternatives on SWL Road.) and if you noticed the previous 'hot spot' was across from the clipper with tons of HK guys but as soon as Legend opened they started renovating to catch up but their food still sucks. I wonder if they are still in business now.
Hi People,
I have been reading your thread on ChangPing for a year now. I just registered so that I can say Hi to you all, express my thanks for the informative postings, and perhaps hook up with one or some of you on my next visit to CP.
I have been to CP a total of only 4 times in the past 7 years. The last time was March. 2011. Each visit, a few of my friends from HK would meet me up in CP and we do the usual round of foot / body massages, BBS, KTV. I usually stay longer in CP than my friends do, so there are days when I am by myself.
My next visit to CP will be in late-Nov to mid-Dec, and I would love to take this opportunity to get to know CP a bit more. In terms of meeting new fellow mongers and visiting new entertainment places. Hopefully, I can meet up with some of you, or join one of BSD's parties.
Please let me know if any of you might entertain meeting up this December. For lunch, coffee or KTV.
If BSD is reading this, please let me know the FAQs and how-to's of joining your parties and making contact.
BTW, I speak English, Cantonese and awkward Mandarin, drink modestly and sing oldies only.
This is a quick intro of myself. Please feel free to ask questions.
Cheers,
DayKnight
SE Asia Joe
10-10-11, 13:03
I took a friend who'd had a long term problem with severe back pains to the Chang Ping General Hospital (next to EuroAsia hotel) yesterday. A Sunday which is the busiest time for this hospital.
As usual, it was a struggle to even get to see the specialist orthopaedic doctor with a long line-up and patients all jostling to push their patient card on the table to be able to see him; but once when we managed to see him, he was very polite, professional and took his time to fully examine my friend. This doctor even spoke quite a bit of English and told us he basically understand 99% of whatever it is that my friend said in English.
Anyway, after thoroughly examining my friend, he REQUESTS (yes, request and not command as Western doctors would usually do) for my friend to get an MRI. Right away, we both sort of panicked as we both knew that MRI's are expensive. At least HK$6, 000 in Hong Kong and US$ 500 in the USA. But guess what, he told us that the charge for MRI at the hospital is only RMB 500!
Off to the MRI / Scan center and I saw the latest state of the art equipment being used. But of course still housed in a crappy room and behind lead doors that must have been a carry-over from the old equipment days!
Half an hour later my friend came out accompanied by a nurse who told us that since my friend is a visitor, that she will expedite the slides within 40 minutes, so that we did not have to return the next day. And she did this WITHOUT being asked at all.
Sure enough, within half an hour she rushed out with the MRI's and told us to hurry over back to see the orthopaedic specialist who she had phoned to ask him to wait, as it was already close to 6 PM, when his shift officially ends.
When we saw the specialist again, he thoroughly examined the MRI slides, and then explained THOROUGHLY the findings. He then re-examined my friend and pointed out all the areas of problems, and followed it up with a detailed explanation as to the treatment for it and even showing him the actual exercises he needs to perfom daily. Since there were no more patients waiting outside, he had spent at least half an hour with us. Way after his official knock-off time.
And the bill for the consultation AND a week's worth of prescription drugs (A Western as well Chinese medicine combination). RMB 126! Amazing! Basically the whole thing cost even less than most Hong Kong doctor in-office consultation without any treatment, medicine and of course no MRI / tests etc.
My friend and I are VERY impressed and very happy with the visit. And I personally would recommend to ANYBODY who needs medical attention in CP to always and ONLY go to the Chang Ping General Hospital and NEVER go to any of the rip-off private clinics that's ubiquitous here.
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
10-10-11, 15:33
I've heard that taking the bus to Zhu Hai takes longer (3 hours) whereas taking train then ferry is shorter (40 min train + 40 min ferry = 1. 5 hours). Was wondering if anybody actually take this route (train then ferry) to shave time off the trip. I am planning a day trip so the less time spent traveling the better for me. Thanks.Further to my earlier reply to you:
Departure Time Departure Terminal Arrival Terminal Arrival Time
08:45 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 09:45
10:30 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 11:30
13:30 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 14:30
14:30 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 15:30
16:45 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 17:45
19:30 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 20:30
This schedule is for reference only. Please call 2669-1213, 2667-2309 to confirm before your departure.
SEAJ
I took a friend who'd had a long term problem with severe back pains to the Chang Ping General Hospital (next to EuroAsia hotel) yesterday. A Sunday which is the busiest time for this hospital.
SEAJYes the general hospitals vary in care level, but they are inexpensive compared to 'private' hospitals, and visitors get better.
Service as they want to look good to foreigners. 500 is extremely cheap for MRI given that they buy the same equipment at.
A higher price (due to VAT) than comparable US institutions. However the cost of labor is 1/6th (even the drs) , so that could.
Explain why it was 500 rmb not 500 USD (or 7000 hkd).
What gets me is that they still charge 70rmb or more for injections that is a huge money maker for the hospitals as everyone with.
Any cold immediately goes for 3-4 days of injections that vary from antibiotics to saline and ringers drips. They 'work' because.
They rehydrate you but you can do that for 4 rmb a day with a few bottles of water.
Sardaukar1
10-10-11, 22:13
I took a friend who'd had a long term problem with severe back pains to the Chang Ping General Hospital (next to EuroAsia hotel) yesterday. A Sunday which is the busiest time for this hospital.Seaj, is your friend Chinese or Asian-looking? When he went to the hospital, did he have to present his passport / I'd before treatment? What is the whole procedure from the moment you arrive at the CP General Hospital, to when you get face-to-face with the doctor?
SE Asia Joe
10-11-11, 01:59
Seaj, is your friend Chinese or Asian-looking? When he went to the hospital, did he have to present his passport / I'd before treatment? What is the whole procedure from the moment you arrive at the CP General Hospital, to when you get face-to-face with the doctor?My friend is Asian looking.
At the front entrance you have to "register" which we did just by showing his passport and which the receptionist just used to fill out a Chinese language form. Local patients had to fill this form out themselves, so God knows what she wrote in it for us. She then issued us a card that is like a credit card (and a Chinese language booklet with his name on it) which I guess has my friend's details for the computer and we had to pay RMB 2 for this.
Take this card and the booklet and put it in the queue order on the doctor's desk and as he gets to the patient, he'll call out the name.
The Doctor would examine the patient and make his entry on the computer and have the patient go to the cashier to pay for whatever treatment was required and the patient would then go to the dispensary and wait for his name to be called out to get the medicine. In the case of my friend, we had to pay the RMB 500 to get the slip to go to the MRI / Scan center.
As for Freepeaks' observations. Yes, Chinese hospitals routinely go from practically "barefoot doctor" stage to State-of-the-art in their equipment procurement, without going through the regular evolvement that hospitals in the West usually go through as the particular medical equipments goes though its various stages of development. And so yes, some of these equipments really look out of place / incongruous amongst its setting.
But about the VAT. I think this is not correct as State Medical facilities are exempt from being levied import duties / VAT for medical equipment. In fact, I know that a few of these state medical facilities use this exemption to buy things like Ambulances which they in turn either use to run their own ambulace service or, better still. Lease out to private operators! Think how such a lease can be very lucrative for everybody involved in it!
SEAJ
Further to my earlier reply to you:
Departure Time Departure Terminal Arrival Terminal Arrival Time
08:45 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 09:45
10:30 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 11:30
13:30 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 14:30
14:30 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 15:30
16:45 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 17:45
19:30 Shekou Ferry Terminal New Macau Ferry Terminal 20:30
This schedule is for reference only. Please call 2669-1213, 2667-2309 to confirm before your departure.
SEAJSweet. Thanks!
Fast Eddie 48
10-11-11, 06:04
WHAAAAATTT?
You're writing about Chang Ping. Right? The only place in Southern China that has up to now NOT experienced much by way of Strike hard campaigns and has been spared most of the excesses in other S. China municipatlities. Chang Ping which has all sorts of New / rebuilt buildings, hotels, clubs, restaurants, KTV's etc and one where hotel booking is quite hard to come by especially as we're in the Canton Trade Fair season.
And its " like a ghost town now you can buy a condo dirt cheap now in CP?"
Where please?
I'd like to soon get a place to buy as prices had always been quite reasonable versus other S. China centers.
When were you here last Eddie?
SEAJTo SEAJ.
I was in CP last month only one night most BBS are closed on a Tuesday night, the street have only a few people and most resturant are dead, most sauna have only few girl did one at Clipper sauna line up sucks get up early next morning and take the CTS bus to ZH Quality is better and cheaper there.
Fast Eddie 48
Sardaukar1
10-11-11, 06:30
good to hear the food is good there, as pozolim i honestly don't like the food at all. don't see what some people seem to like about it. also unless dave.
is there, we often get sent to a crappy room (i went with a brother once and we had a small crappy room. my chair was against the wall.). tv sucked and wall.
paper was peeling. i think they have renovated a bit but i'm open to new places.
yes the food stalls behind rainbow could be golden to find some dessert.
happy together is like 35 rmb for their 'orange juice' or any drink. the pricing is way to expensive and the food lousy, at least they know the first 3 rules in business.
location, location, location.i think the food at pzl is awesome. especially the pot rice (have you tried that?). what a steal for the price.
Sardaukar1
10-11-11, 06:31
To Asndragon,
The air is cleaner because there are much less people with factory and business closed, most of them move to big city like Guangzhou and SZ, plus crack down and high crime last few yr many HK monger stop coming during the week CP is like a ghost town now you can buy a condo dirt cheap now in CP.
Fast Eddie 48I think Eddie is trying to be funny here.
SE Asia Joe
10-11-11, 09:09
I must point out that such as I describe above is the exception I / o the rule in China. Medical services, or rather the lack of such, is a big blot on China's reputation and one that sorely needs reform and a thorough cleaning out.
And what Freepeaks pointed out, that these drips are huge money-makers for hospitals / clinics, definitely true as it forces the patient to come back daily I / o just taking his antibiotic course at home orally. IMHO, the worst part about this regime is that the antibiotic drip is usually so potent and a transfusion so invasive that it actually knocks out the body's own natural defenses against bacteria and also kills off even the good bacteria that our body by and large needs.
But medical reform is a gargantuan effort, for China is so large and has so many people. Even 6-1/2 million doctors, which is how many there is there, is definitely NOT enough to provide anything but very basic coverage for each of her citizen; not when the AVERAGE occupancy rate for the hospitals here runs at 130% of capacity. Figure THAT ONE out!
And for anybody traveling to/within China I strongly recommend to take out a GOOD health insurance with definite Medical assistance service availability by one of the known International Medical assistance companies like SOS, AED etc; don't just take the word of the insurance salesman that such is provided for, for in too many instances, it just is NOT the truth and you end up with health insurance which is totally useless in China.
SEAJ
Big Swingin Dave
10-11-11, 11:58
The complete renovation of the Lucky hotel has not yet been completed yet but their sauna has already opened for business. The room fee is 38RMB but will be waived if you pre-book with a manager. PM me if you need the manager's telephone number. The WGs are in three categories. Tag numbers starting with "0" are 450RMB, numbers starting with either "1" or "2" will be 550RMB, and numbers starting with "8" will be 650RMB all inclusive. Double-fly (2 girls) will have 100RMB discount. They have a flower-street and catwalk everynight starting at 11pm. All sauna rooms are brand new. WG quality not quite up to par with the top tier saunas in town but for a newly opened sauna, the quality is not bad and worth a look. Overnight rooms are available after 11:30pm for no additional charge.
BSD
I think the food at pzl is awesome. Especially the pot rice (have you tried that?). What a steal for the price.Indeed I have. I just don't seem to like the food there. Certainly not that I don't like Chinese food in fact I eat some weird shit.
But I don't like their food. Also tried the rib one and the sandwich all not my cup of tea. Actually the sandwich was the best for
Me but rather go eat at a street vendor. I let the massage girl eat the sandwich cause I didn't want / like it.
The complete renovation of the Lucky hotel has not yet been completed yet but their sauna has already opened for business. The room fee is 38RMB but will be waived if you pre-book with a manager. PM me if you need the manager's telephone number. The WGs are in three categories. Tag numbers starting with "0" are 450RMB, numbers starting with either "1" or "2" will be 550RMB, and numbers starting with "8" will be 650RMB all inclusive. Double-fly (2 girls) will have 100RMB discount. They have a flower-street and catwalk everynight starting at 11pm. All sauna rooms are brand new. WG quality not quite up to par with the top tier saunas in town but for a newly opened sauna, the quality is not bad and worth a look. Overnight rooms are available after 11:30pm for no additional charge.
BSDNo chance for red ropes? Do you know if they are doing nurses and flight attendants like the Virgin or is it standard outfits?
Although the looks of the girls are not that great. I could vouch for BSD that the service that they provide is pretty awesome. I took 103 just cause I didn't have enough time to go to the entire lineup to see what else was available. She perform pretty well. If you are into ass and tits, she not for you. But she can perform whatever you like. (for the most part) thanks again BSD for the time I was there.
For freepeak, No red rope service, at least during my session.
The complete renovation of the Lucky hotel has not yet been completed yet but their sauna has already opened for business. The room fee is 38RMB but will be waived if you pre-book with a manager. PM me if you need the manager's telephone number. The WGs are in three categories. Tag numbers starting with "0" are 450RMB, numbers starting with either "1" or "2" will be 550RMB, and numbers starting with "8" will be 650RMB all inclusive. Double-fly (2 girls) will have 100RMB discount. They have a flower-street and catwalk everynight starting at 11pm. All sauna rooms are brand new. WG quality not quite up to par with the top tier saunas in town but for a newly opened sauna, the quality is not bad and worth a look. Overnight rooms are available after 11:30pm for no additional charge.
BSD
Blue Diamone
10-12-11, 12:58
I am in a place call Cha Shan wich means Tea Hill. Really appreciate if any brother have any ideal where I can find some action in this towm or somewhere nearby. I have walk around the place but found nothing.
SE Asia Joe
10-12-11, 16:14
I am in a place call Cha Shan wich means Tea Hill. Really appreciate if any brother have any ideal where I can find some action in this towm or somewhere nearby. I have walk around the place but found nothing.If I'm right Cha Shan is part of Dongguan City (Dongcheng).
If so, search this thread for Dongcheng, Dongguan City, Guancheng, Nancheng, Houjie (which are close by. Especially Houjie as there's lots there) as CP and CA are further away.
Even Panyu in Guang zhou is probably closer / easier for you to get to.
Good luck.
SEAJ
California8
10-13-11, 03:20
Although the looks of the girls are not that great. I could vouch for BSD that the service that they provide is pretty awesome. I took 103 just cause I didn't have enough time to go to the entire lineup to see what else was available. She perform pretty well. If you are into ass and tits, she not for you. But she can perform whatever you like. (for the most part) thanks again BSD for the time I was there.
For freepeak, No red rope service, at least during my session.Great service at XinMei Sauna. Got washed up thoroughly on the shower bed followed by body slide and teasing BBBJ. Off to the bed for BBBJCIM and she even put a cover on my finger to probe her (not anal) then bit of a rest before back to the shower for a wash down and her hands on little brother got him excited again. Back to the bed for more BBBJ and completion in mish. For you studs, I think she would have taken another pop if you can. The 650 girls wear business attire (white blouse & mini skirt) and I remember a skimpy maid's outfit too on some of them. The 450 gals all looked older than the others. The room is huge and the wet area is roomy too but no hardware for red rope.
Cal8
Well the aforementioned Canton Fair should indeed be making DG quite busy for the near future. Earlier this week my three friends and I tried to get hotel rooms in CP for this weekend but all the nice hotels (HuiHua, Miraton, Yihao. Etc.) were completely booked for Sat night. So instead we're going to CA, I've never been there before.
Anyone have any recs for no-strip KTVs in CA, perhaps that have flower streets? I've only been to CP once and went to both Mayflower and Yihao and was quite impressed by both places, especially the sheer quantity of girls. You are bound to find something you like.
Also, anyone have suggestion on the best way to get from HKIA to CA?
SE Asia Joe
10-13-11, 08:23
Well the aforementioned Canton Fair should indeed be making DG quite busy for the near future. Earlier this week my three friends and I tried to get hotel rooms in CP for this weekend but all the nice hotels (HuiHua, Miraton, Yihao. Etc.) were completely booked for Sat night. So instead we're going to CA, I've never been there before.
Anyone have any recs for no-strip KTVs in CA, perhaps that have flower streets? I've only been to CP once and went to both Mayflower and Yihao and was quite impressed by both places, especially the sheer quantity of girls. You are bound to find something you like.
Also, anyone have suggestion on the best way to get from HKIA to CA?My advise to you? Forget about Ca and go back to CP.
Apparently you really do not know CA all that well, thus let me tell you that CA is nothing like CP in terms of mongering in that you really must know where to go FIRST before you set out anywhere, by car, as the "facilities" are NOT in a cluster like in CP. And as far as quantity is concerned, in terms of both facilities as well as the girls at@facility, again, its not in the same scale as CP. And yes, IMHO the CA gals are way better "trained" and do serve better, but in terms of quality, well again, its probably not up to par to CP, unless you really know your way in CA.
Importantly, as a "newbie" you really would not be able to uncover the many gems that actually is there in CA.
Do yourselves a favor and head back to CP, for even about travel to CA, where in Ca are you wanting to go to? But if you insist, your best bet is just to go to the Bus counters at HKIA (in front of exit A) and get a van to take you to wherever you want to go to.
On CP hotels, get a hold of BS Dave (look in the classified ads) and I'm sure he'll fix you up with some kind of acceptable accommodation in CP. For this week-end is only a day away!
Just IMHO.
SEAJ
OldAsiaHand
10-13-11, 14:55
AsnDragon,
Yes, I have been mongering for over 30 years and could be a bit numb. That said, I still get excited doing the 18-20 yo hard bodies in CP for example. However, I don't seem to be gravitating to better looking girls per se. My standards seem to be the same. It's just not as often and not as many. My age is another factor. I am not in the best physical shape and I smoke like a chimney. And, even Vitamin "V" and "C" don't help me like they used to. I guess I have taken too much and built up a tolerance.
Yes, I have been getting a lot of freebies lately, however, they rarely hold my interest for very long. Although I do like the emotional part of doing a girl that wants to be with me, it is mainly a conquest thing for me. Once I have done them a few times, the sex is pretty ordinary and I want to nail the next one in the same way I want the newness of the next P4P which is why I rarely repeat a WG. For me, sex does not seem to get better the more times I am with the same girl; rather goes downhill as I lose interest.
In conclusion, I need more and more new girls, whether P4P or freebies, to satisfy my needs and keep me excited. Am I ok?
Just my POV.
OAH.
OAH,
I think this is all due to a few factors.
1. You have been such a long time veteran of the Mongering trade that perhaps you have become a bit numb to the whole mongering scene. I mean you must have seen or done 1000+ girls over the years. So after a while, I think it takes a bit more excitement, than just the regular 1-2-3 in the bed. So I think you start to only gravitate towards the really good looking girls- as they are the only ones that arouse a bit of interest now- because they are special, not just regular looking like all of the random girls you see day in and day out on the streets.
2. I think the next factor is you have been in the freebie scene too long recently. As a result of getting freebies, there's a bit of emotional involvement between you and your freebie. Sure, I'm certain that you try to distance yourself and make sure it's just plain sex and nothing more. But over time, I think this type of arrangement turns you on. You get use to doing a girl who really wants to have sex with you, just to have sex, instead of doing a girl who is emotionless in bed and just trying to get you to come in 10 mins so they can rob you of your 150 or 250 RMB. I think that your emotional connections with your freebies has made you use to sex with emotions. When you get a freebie, they obviously, not only like to have sex with you, but they have to like you in order to have sex with you. That emotional connection has made sex all that much more enjoyable. It's harder to revert back to just sex with a WG anymore.
In the end. After mongering for a while. Sometimes you just want to have sex with someone you like.
That's my opinion.
AsnDragon.
My advise to you? Forget about Ca and go back to CP.
Apparently you really do not know CA all that well, thus let me tell you that CA is nothing like CP in terms of mongering in that you really must know where to go FIRST before you set out anywhere, by car, as the "facilities" are NOT in a cluster like in CP. And as far as quantity is concerned, in terms of both facilities as well as the girls at@facility, again, its not in the same scale as CP. And yes, IMHO the CA gals are way better "trained" and do serve better, but in terms of quality, well again, its probably not up to par to CP, unless you really know your way in CA.
Importantly, as a "newbie" you really would not be able to uncover the many gems that actually is there in CA.
Do yourselves a favor and head back to CP, for even about travel to CA, where in Ca are you wanting to go to? But if you insist, your best bet is just to go to the Bus counters at HKIA (in front of exit A) and get a van to take you to wherever you want to go to.
On CP hotels, get a hold of BS Dave (look in the classified ads) and I'm sure he'll fix you up with some kind of acceptable accommodation in CP. For this week-end is only a day away!
Just IMHO.
SEAJSound advice and I think you are right. I've emailed BSD to see what he can do. In case he can't find us a hotel in CP, have you ever heard of Oriental Charm KTV in CA?
California8
10-14-11, 00:24
On the same block as the Clipper Hotel on Swan Lake Road, the mommies will find you. First time you might want to consider going with someone to be sure you are not led astray. Saw gals in two different rooms about 12-15 in each place. 250 for short time. 100 to the mommie then 150 to the gal when you are done. Picked an 18 y / o from Hunan who fixed her smile on me the whole time, she was new to her high heels, LOL. The gals are not hot hot but there were 3 or 4 I could have picked in each room. Back to the hotel around the corner, surprised to get DFK throughout, good BBBJ in shower and on the bed. This gal did not take a cover out of her purse and was ready for BB but I stopped and got a cover out to stay safe; she was tight. We cuddled and watched TV but I sent her on her way to be sure not to be asked for long time rate.
Cal8
Diefrankfurter
10-14-11, 04:18
I'll post a report once I can get some information on where I should be going in the mainland? I will be in Hong Kong for work. Also, I don't speak Chineese and I'm a little concerned about getting into some trouble with the locals. Anyone have thoughts?
AsnDragon,
Yes, I have been mongering for over 30 years and could be a bit numb. That said, I still get excited doing the 18-20 yo hard bodies in CP for example. However, I don't seem to be gravitating to better looking girls per se. My standards seem to be the same. It's just not as often and not as many. My age is another factor. I am not in the best physical shape and I smoke like a chimney. And, even Vitamin "V" and "C" don't help me like they used to. I guess I have taken too much and built up a tolerance.
Yes, I have been getting a lot of freebies lately, however, they rarely hold my interest for very long. Although I do like the emotional part of doing a girl that wants to be with me, it is mainly a conquest thing for me. Once I have done them a few times, the sex is pretty ordinary and I want to nail the next one in the same way I want the newness of the next P4P which is why I rarely repeat a WG. For me, sex does not seem to get better the more times I am with the same girl; rather goes downhill as I lose interest.
In conclusion, I need more and more new girls, whether P4P or freebies, to satisfy my needs and keep me excited. Am I ok?
Just my POV.
OAH.OAH.
Cut the cigs and you will be okay.
I usually spend a few months just watching the action from afar. The 18-20 year old is a bit too dramatic for me. I prefer the quiet evening in a nice hotel suite with a horny trophy (someone else's) housewife that haven't had sex for quite a while and having her f&ck the living daylights out of me and maybe sipping on a nice glass of vintage red wine. The older I get the more I prefer the quieter life. I may indulge in the 18-20 year old every now and then. I prefer not to have the drama.
Just my two rmb on this.
Member #4144
10-14-11, 14:50
.And, even Vitamin "V" and "C" don't help me like they used to. I guess I have taken too much and built up a tolerance.Wow, that is scarest thing I have heard so far. I have become dependent for a year now on C and still on the 1/3 pill stage but moving up to 1/2. Dose switching from C to V help a little? I figure once I move up to the entire pill, my mongering days will be pretty much over.
Fillmore
Mit Fo Lfe
10-14-11, 22:52
I'll post a report once I can get some information on where I should be going in the mainland? I will be in Hong Kong for work. Also, I don't speak Chineese and I'm a little concerned about getting into some trouble with the locals. Anyone have thoughts?I'd say contact BSDave and request his services
First time poster. I'm a Canadian who travels a bit and would consider myself a part time hobbyist.
Anyways, I'm back in China next week and with be in the Dongguan area. I mentioned a roundabout recommendation of Changping to my contact and it looks like they have me set up at the Lai Shing Holiday Resortel. I can probably still change, but don't mind being a little out of the way if there is sauna style entertainment available on the grounds. By karoake I assume they mean KTV, but I wanted to ask if anyone could provide some info on this place?
Any feedback would be great. Will try to share reviews and pics after the trip.
Sardaukar1
10-15-11, 08:00
Sound advice and I think you are right. I've emailed BSD to see what he can do. In case he can't find us a hotel in CP, have you ever heard of Oriental Charm KTV in CA?Yeah, it's a little far from CA downtown, close to Humen. A lot of people have said good things about it, in that girls are open and strip in the KTV room.
OAH,
I think most of your problem is psychological and has nothing to do with having a higher tolerance of C and V. Everyone has different tastes and preferences and different aspects of attraction to a woman that makes us tick. In your case, you just get bored too easily of the same girl. This is natural, perhaps you just get sick and tired of doing the same girl a lot quicker than the normal guy. Perhaps this could be attributed to your conquest of trying to do as many girls as possible. Variety is the spice of life right?
In addition, you have really done quite a lot of girls. I mean you have done more girls than perhaps 10 senior members on this board combined together. So it's more of the "been there done that" type of dilemma. You need the freshness and zest of mongering or sex to keep you on the edge of your seat. How many of us have spend 2-3 weeks having sex 2-3 times a day straight and by the end of our second week it starts to get harder and harder to get your little brother up. Sometimes you just need to take a break from it all, and once you come back after a couple or few days you are all re-charged up again to partake in the next session.
Moreover, I think that Vitamin C and V kind of screws up on a guy's perception of what sex really should be. When you take V and C you are artificially making your penis hard all the time. Usual days without it when you can only do it once a day, you end up being able to do two to three times a day. After a while you peg your expectations so high to 2-3 times a day or being able to maintain a strong erection whenever slightly turned on that sometimes those expectations are high goals that cannot always be reached- thus you become a bit disappointed in the whole experience.
Nevertheless, OAH if young 18 years old with tight hard bodies turn you on, then just stick with what turns you on. If it works, there's sometimes no need to fix it or change it.
AsnDragon.
AsnDragon,
Yes, I have been mongering for over 30 years and could be a bit numb. That said, I still get excited doing the 18-20 yo hard bodies in CP for example. However, I don't seem to be gravitating to better looking girls per se. My standards seem to be the same. It's just not as often and not as many. My age is another factor. I am not in the best physical shape and I smoke like a chimney. And, even Vitamin "V" and "C" don't help me like they used to. I guess I have taken too much and built up a tolerance.
Yes, I have been getting a lot of freebies lately, however, they rarely hold my interest for very long. Although I do like the emotional part of doing a girl that wants to be with me, it is mainly a conquest thing for me. Once I have done them a few times, the sex is pretty ordinary and I want to nail the next one in the same way I want the newness of the next P4P which is why I rarely repeat a WG. For me, sex does not seem to get better the more times I am with the same girl; rather goes downhill as I lose interest.
In conclusion, I need more and more new girls, whether P4P or freebies, to satisfy my needs and keep me excited. Am I ok?
Just my POV.
OAH.
LitePro,
Don't stay at Lai Shing Holiday Resort. It's an older hotel. It's far away from all of the action in CP. The hassle of having to take the taxi all the time is very inconvenient, not to mention that it's hard to even get a taxi at your hotel because it's rather secluded.
The KTV at Lai Shing Holiday Resort use to be better, but now it's really bad! I would recommend contacting BSD Dave and PM him, he can arrange a nicer hotel for you, as it is Canton Fair and he can usually get you a room when it's fully booked if you give him some prior notice.
There are many other better hotels in CP, but Lai Shing is not one that I would recommend for your stay.
Just my advice.
AsnDragon.
First time poster. I'm a Canadian who travels a bit and would consider myself a part time hobbyist.
Anyways, I'm back in China next week and with be in the Dongguan area. I mentioned a roundabout recommendation of Changping to my contact and it looks like they have me set up at the Lai Shing Holiday Resortel. I can probably still change, but don't mind being a little out of the way if there is sauna style entertainment available on the grounds. By karoake I assume they mean KTV, but I wanted to ask if anyone could provide some info on this place?
Any feedback would be great. Will try to share reviews and pics after the trip.
Bnlee2,
I still have never had someone else's trophy wife or mistress before. So I could not say that I am with you on your comment. However, I do find that the 18 year old girls are sometimes a bit hard to handle these days. As I grow older, it's not the drama that I don't like, but I find that as I get older it's harder for me to connect with these young girls. They have so much energy, and an old man like me, approaching my retirement age of 65, I just don't have the energy or stamina to watch TV or Movies until 3 am, or go to Internet Bars until 3 am or just staying up so late in general.
I do prefer girls that are a bit older- 20-22 etc. It's easier to deal with and they are a bit more calm. The only problem is once they get to that age of 20-22, they become to money minded and their next step is wanting to find a sugar daddy or carry the relationship to another level that I cannot provide. Whereas 18 years old girls just want to have fun.
What is the average age of trophy wives that you deal with? 30's? 40's? 50's?
You going to be in CP anytime? Would love to meet up with you sometime and get a beer together so I can pick your brain on how to get these hot trophy mistresses.
AsnDragon.
OAH.
Cut the cigs and you will be okay.
I usually spend a few months just watching the action from afar. The 18-20 year old is a bit too dramatic for me. I prefer the quiet evening in a nice hotel suite with a horny trophy (someone else's) housewife that haven't had sex for quite a while and having her f&ck the living daylights out of me and maybe sipping on a nice glass of vintage red wine. The older I get the more I prefer the quieter life. I may indulge in the 18-20 year old every now and then. I prefer not to have the drama.
Just my two rmb on this.
California8,
Wow bareback huh? Now that is really rare that she would want to do bareback with you, since it's her first time with you. That has never happened to me before. Most girls would require to have a cover at all times. In addition, DFK? I have rarely ever gotten a DFK from a BBS girl. In fact I don't think I have ever gotten a DFK from any BBS girls at all. It's always been a fairly rushed service, unless you pay for overnight fee. But have never been offered DFK or uncovered sex before.
BTW- it appears that every BBS girl is 18 years old or younger. They may look young, but I guarantee you that many are older than 18 years old. Mommies lie through their teeth. I've even had BBS girls tell me that there's no way that everyone is 18 years old as they claim. She stated that many are older, in fact most are older. But then again, so long as they look young, and feel young, I'm not complaining.
AsnDragon.
On the same block as the Clipper Hotel on Swan Lake Road, the mommies will find you. First time you might want to consider going with someone to be sure you are not led astray. Saw gals in two different rooms about 12-15 in each place. 250 for short time. 100 to the mommie then 150 to the gal when you are done. Picked an 18 why / o from Hunan who fixed her smile on me the whole time, she was new to her high heels, LOL. The gals are not hot hot but there were 3 or 4 I could have picked in each room. Back to the hotel around the corner, surprised to get DFK throughout, good BBBJ in shower and on the bed. This gal did not take a cover out of her purse and was ready for BB but I stopped and got a cover out to stay safe; she was tight. We cuddled and watched TV but I sent her on her way to be sure not to be asked for long time rate.
Cal8
Aznjay,
There's no "in case BSD cannot find me a hotel." CP has the third most star ratings of hotel in China. Shanghai and Beijing being the only other cities that have as many "star" rating of hotels. This means that CP is filled with hotels, all they have are hotels, they are well known for having hotels. There's always going to be a hotel room for you to book. The question is whether it's the hotel that you want to stay at, or if it's the hotel that fulfills your expected requirements. Even with the canton fair you can get a hotel room in CP, it just might not be one of the bigger nicer hotels though, but BSD can arrange most things for you. Contact him.
CP has more hotels than CA, CP has more girls than CA concentrated in one area.
I agree with SEAJOE, CP is the way to go. Only go to CA if you know somebody with a car that can take you around to the nice places. Saunas and dirty footies are the only places I go to CA for, other than that I don't see much point of going there.
AsnDragon.
Sound advice and I think you are right. I've emailed BSD to see what he can do. In case he can't find us a hotel in CP, have you ever heard of Oriental Charm KTV in CA?
Fast Eddie 48
10-15-11, 22:46
Aznjay,
There's no "in case BSD cannot find me a hotel." CP has the third most star ratings of hotel in China. Shanghai and Beijing being the only other cities that have as many "star" rating of hotels. This means that CP is filled with hotels, all they have are hotels, they are well known for having hotels. There's always going to be a hotel room for you to book. The question is whether it's the hotel that you want to stay at, or if it's the hotel that fulfills your expected requirements. Even with the canton fair you can get a hotel room in CP, it just might not be one of the bigger nicer hotels though, but BSD can arrange most things for you. Contact him.
CP has more hotels than CA, CP has more girls than CA concentrated in one area.
I agree with SEAJOE, CP is the way to go. Only go to CA if you know somebody with a car that can take you around to the nice places. Saunas and dirty footies are the only places I go to CA for, other than that I don't see much point of going there.
AsnDragon.To Asn Dragon.
I think CP have too many hotel mostly 2-3 star that have no business during the week, at one time at this small town of CP have over 700 hotel or motel most are already out of business, I think Dogguan city or even Houjie have more 5 star hotel than CP.
Fast Eddie 48
California8
10-16-11, 04:03
California8,
Wow bareback huh? Now that is really rare that she would want to do bareback with you, since it's her first time with you. That has never happened to me before. Most girls would require to have a cover at all times. In addition, DFK? I have rarely ever gotten a DFK from a BBS girl. In fact I don't think I have ever gotten a DFK from any BBS girls at all. It's always been a fairly rushed service, unless you pay for overnight fee. But have never been offered DFK or uncovered sex before.
BTW- it appears that every BBS girl is 18 years old or younger. They may look young, but I guarantee you that many are older than 18 years old. Mommies lie through their teeth. I've even had BBS girls tell me that there's no way that everyone is 18 years old as they claim. She stated that many are older, in fact most are older. But then again, so long as they look young, and feel young, I'm not complaining.
AsnDragon.AD:
The guy I went to the BBS with told me the next morning he had the same situation of him having to get a cover out. I was very surprised as I like you have found the gals always carry covers with them. Not sure what has changed.
Cal8
California8
10-16-11, 04:15
Compared to midweek at Peninsula KTV, the Friday and Saturday nights were busy as can be at Fuhao and Yihao KTVs. I know this is the norm but I was told that with the Trade Fair going on, extra busy. Someone down from Guangzhou said they had come to CP to avoid the crazy busy in Guangzhou with the Fair.
Thanks to BSDave and those that let me tag along and helped me with translations during chicken runs, sauna sessions, PZL footies and KTV parties. I know your real names but not your ISG handles so I will leave it at that.
Cal8
Bnlee2,
I still have never had someone else's trophy wife or mistress before. So I could not say that I am with you on your comment. However, I do find that the 18 year old girls are sometimes a bit hard to handle these days. As I grow older, it's not the drama that I don't like, but I find that as I get older it's harder for me to connect with these young girls. They have so much energy, and an old man like me, approaching my retirement age of 65, I just don't have the energy or stamina to watch TV or Movies until 3 am, or go to Internet Bars until 3 am or just staying up so late in general.
I do prefer girls that are a bit older- 20-22 etc. It's easier to deal with and they are a bit more calm. The only problem is once they get to that age of 20-22, they become to money minded and their next step is wanting to find a sugar daddy or carry the relationship to another level that I cannot provide. Whereas 18 years old girls just want to have fun.
What is the average age of trophy wives that you deal with? 30's? 40's? 50's?
You going to be in CP anytime? Would love to meet up with you sometime and get a beer together so I can pick your brain on how to get these hot trophy mistresses.
AsnDragon.AsnDragon.
Most of the gals are in the late twenties to early thirties. I have had a few pushing late thirties. I agree that I can not keep up with the 18 to 20 year old. They are full of energy and wants the public scene of going to have you take them shopping and all that. I prefer a trophy horney lonely housewife that have a lot of pent up horney energy seeking a bit of discretion and are willing to spend some of HER money to get a nice suite and order some room service with a nice bottle of wine while she fuck your brains out. I love having a nice glass of vintage wine between session. It is a lot of fun and my cost is nearly zero. These gals needs discretion but also needs sex. I was recently approach by a nice 48 year old that had a body that could give some of these 22year old KTV gals a run for the money. She gave a nice hug and I could tell that she had a nice hard body. Unfortunately I had to decline, I had to meet one of these rich trophy housewife in an hour to spend the evening with her and I was leaving the next morning on a flight back to the US.
SE Asia Joe
10-16-11, 06:41
AsnDragon.
Most of the gals are in the late twenties to early thirties. I have had a few pushing late thirties. I agree that I can not keep up with the 18 to 20 year old. They are full of energy and wants the public scene of going to have you take them shopping and all that. I prefer a trophy horney lonely housewife that have a lot of pent up horney energy seeking a bit of discretion and are willing to spend some of HER money to get a nice suite and order some room service with a nice bottle of wine while she fuck your brains out. I love having a nice glass of vintage wine between session. It is a lot of fun and my cost is nearly zero. These gals needs discretion but also needs sex. I was recently approach by a nice 48 year old that had a body that could give some of these 22year old KTV gals a run for the money. She gave a nice hug and I could tell that she had a nice hard body. Unfortunately I had to decline, I had to meet one of these rich trophy housewife in an hour to spend the evening with her and I was leaving the next morning on a flight back to the US.Hey Ben. If you don't mind, I'd like to take you to task a bit!
You keep on writing about all these "Horny Trophy Wives" that you're continually bagging. Just how many are you talking about / have you bagged all these years that you've been writing about it?
SEAJ
Fast Eddie,
I know that Dongguan City and Houjie have many 5 star hotels. I've personally stayed at Sheraton and Cinese Hotel in Houjie before. They are mega huge and big and luxurious. But although CP does not have as many 5 star hotels in comparison, CP has many mid grade hotels which I feel are fairly decent for the quality and price. Take Clipper for example- nice rooms, although getting a bit old after 3-4 years and the price is really a great value. Other hotels I feel are good values are: Swan Lake, Pennisula, Walter Hotel (hard beds, which are good for sex but rooms getting a bit dated) , Lihao Hotel, Mayflower hotel, Haixia Hotel. These are all mid grade hotels that are really a good bang for the buck value. Other Dongguan towns, such as Tangxia, Dalang charge a bit higher on their hotel rooms, because there's a lack of them in their town. Even in Houjie, the 3-4 star hotels are about 50-100 RMB more expensive than CP hotels. I never understood why Houjie, a place where there's no railway nor port was able to develop so quickly and fast. Later on someone told me that lots of Taiwanese Gangsters way back in the 90's took tons of money to Houjie to invest in Entertainment venues, furniture factories and other underground businesses. Thus there was such a huge explosion of hotels and other developments in that area. But back to the point, so CP, with so much competition is a great situation for customers like us.
AsnDragon.
To Asn Dragon.
I think CP have too many hotel mostly 2-3 star that have no business during the week, at one time at this small town of CP have over 700 hotel or motel most are already out of business, I think Dogguan city or even Houjie have more 5 star hotel than CP.
Fast Eddie 48
Bnlee,
Can I just be your wingman, and perhaps you could push to me your leftovers? I mean you make it sound so easy. In fact, I'm also ok with sloppy seconds. Can you take me on one of these trophy wife adventures? I am curious to see you in action.
AsnDragon.
AsnDragon.
Most of the gals are in the late twenties to early thirties. I have had a few pushing late thirties. I agree that I can not keep up with the 18 to 20 year old. They are full of energy and wants the public scene of going to have you take them shopping and all that. I prefer a trophy horney lonely housewife that have a lot of pent up horney energy seeking a bit of discretion and are willing to spend some of HER money to get a nice suite and order some room service with a nice bottle of wine while she fuck your brains out. I love having a nice glass of vintage wine between session. It is a lot of fun and my cost is nearly zero. These gals needs discretion but also needs sex. I was recently approach by a nice 48 year old that had a body that could give some of these 22year old KTV gals a run for the money. She gave a nice hug and I could tell that she had a nice hard body. Unfortunately I had to decline, I had to meet one of these rich trophy housewife in an hour to spend the evening with her and I was leaving the next morning on a flight back to the US.
SEAJOE,
Knowing that you have a tendency to bang all of the fresh young pretty girls in all of the CP BBS. I just realize that there's a high likeliness that I have gotten your sloppy seconds. I coin the term "sloppy joes.". Which means, doing SEAJOE's sloppy seconds (sloppy joes) Throughout the years we have shared so many girls that we have both done and taken pictures of as well. But after we compare notes, I realize that you are always the one who gets to do them first before me. Well, afterall, you do live much closer to CP than me. That and also, you are 30 years younger than me, so you are quicker on your feet than I am as well.
AsnDragon.
Hey Ben. If you don't mind, I'd like to take you to task a bit!
You keep on writing about all these "Horny Trophy Wives" that you're continually bagging. Just how many are you talking about / have you bagged all these years that you've been writing about it?
SEAJ
After 15 hours flight and 2 1/2 hours van ride, we've finally arrived at CP today on Saturday Oct 15th. Tried to exchange some USD for RMB at Yi Hao's hotel lobby and the rate is 5. 5. I said no thanks and exchanged at a bank at rate of 6. 3. There's not enough banks here. I found 3. 1 was closed on the weekends. 1 doesn't do money exchange on the weekends, and 1 opens at 12pm. 5pm on weekends (this seems to be opposite of banks in US where banks close early on weekends)
Got to Mayflower's flower street around 6:15 (street opens at 5:45, so we're 30 minutes late). This is my first trip to CP and first time seeing a flower street. I had imagine rows of girls on the left and right and I'm walking through the middle checking them out trying to decide who to pick. Well, it was nothing like that. Walked into a room similar to a dance floor at a nightclub. There are groups of girls and guys talking to each other spread all over the room. People are walking around and the room is packed. It feels like I'm in a nightclub dance floor, just that the music is not so loud and you can carry a conversation. There were more guys than girls and girls are being picked up fast. I walked in and spotted a girl in a white dress that I found attractive. But since this is my first flower street I made a mental note and continued through to the other end of the room. When I came back she was gone. Every girl that I said I was going to come back was snatched up when I came back for her. Some within minutes. I hear that today's the start of the Canton Fair so there's more business than usual.
Through my walk of the flower street mommies are pushing girls at me. Some are pretty agressive. I ended up picking a 2-5-8 girl because I had made 3 rounds through the street (going back and forth to come back and pick up the girls earlier that I spotted at the other end) and this mommie kept pushing this one girl at me. She was average but she was smiling and was a good sport even though I rejected her twice. Ended up taking her back to the hotel. She didn't do BJs and I was jetlagged and tired. Opted for the ST with her this night. First night at CP was a mellow one for me. The flower street was a little chaotic for me. I would much rather have a girl lineup if flower street is like this. But I hear that this is only during weekends (thurs, fri, and sat). We'll be coming back for sure to check the flower street out again on non-peak days.
BTW, in Mayflower the white dresses are 4-8-12. Red dresses are 3-6-10. And all other colors are 2-5-8. That's it for now. To be continued.
Blue Diamone
10-16-11, 12:49
If I'm right Cha Shan is part of Dongguan City (Dongcheng).
If so, search this thread for Dongcheng, Dongguan City, Guancheng, Nancheng, Houjie (which are close by. Especially Houjie as there's lots there) as CP and CA are further away.
Even Panyu in Guang zhou is probably closer / easier for you to get to.
Good luck.
SEAJI am staying in the FangZhong, that have a health Center. Will give them a call and write a report about it.
Thank you again
SE Asia Joe
10-16-11, 13:25
SEAJOE,
Knowing that you have a tendency to bang all of the fresh young pretty girls in all of the CP BBS. I just realize that there's a high likeliness that I have gotten your sloppy seconds. I coin the term "sloppy joes.". Which means, doing SEAJOE's sloppy seconds (sloppy joes) Throughout the years we have shared so many girls that we have both done and taken pictures of as well. But after we compare notes, I realize that you are always the one who gets to do them first before me. Well, afterall, you do live much closer to CP than me. That and also, you are 30 years younger than me, so you are quicker on your feet than I am as well.
AsnDragon.I wish, I truly wish! LOL!
You know I've slowed down quite a bit of late!
So, adding salt to the wound huh?
LOL!
SEAJ
Last week I passed through CP on a China swing for business. I stayed at the HH and had only one night, so I dropped down to the HH Sauna in the evening. The lineup brought in was plentiful – 12 "500rmb girls" and 3 "300rmb girls". One of the 300rmb girls caught my eye. #133. She was cute, had a nice (natural) rack and looked a little naughty. It was a great choice.
This girl had a perfect body with larger than normal breasts (I'm not very good at estimating cup sizes) , perfect skin, perky nips, etc. She was probably new as she didn't have that jaded nature you find with long-term sauna girls. She also had no routine, which was nice.
She did a lot of kissing in the shower and then off to the bed where she gave a great BJ. She was very fun and playful and it really was a great experience, including a number of positions. She also enjoyed DATY, which is nice. When we were finished she cuddled and helped me with my broken Chinese.
I ended up tipping her as I knew I had gotten better service than I would have from one of the more expensive girls.
#133 – Highly recommended!
SEAJOE,
The only reason why you are slowing down is because you are in "love" and you are going steady. But if you weren't in love, I'm sure you could still do just as many girls as you use to. So you slowing down is not because you have a lack of energy, you are slowing because it's your own choice to slow down. Deep down inside, you are still a helpless romantic.
AsnDragon.
I wish, I truly wish! LOL!
You know I've slowed down quite a bit of late!
So, adding salt to the wound huh?
LOL!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
10-17-11, 03:34
SEAJOE,
The only reason why you are slowing down is because you are in "love" and you are going steady. But if you weren't in love, I'm sure you could still do just as many girls as you use to. So you slowing down is not because you have a lack of energy, you are slowing because it's your own choice to slow down. Deep down inside, you are still a helpless romantic.
AsnDragon.Caught me again! Yes I truly AM a hopeless romantic.
I always go full blast with gals I make a connection with for I really enjoy all the bells and jingles when "In Love."
And whilst I may feel and act truly in love, I always have it firmly at the back of my mind that such relationship is predicated on $$ changing hands. In fact I always force myself to know this fact and to make sure the counter-party also know at all times this is the case.
Saves a whole lot of drama, heart-ache and whatever else during and after its over, but meanwhile, gives me the chance to truly enjoy relationships as if I'm 16 all over again!
SEAJ
Hey Ben. If you don't mind, I'd like to take you to task a bit!
You keep on writing about all these "Horny Trophy Wives" that you're continually bagging. Just how many are you talking about / have you bagged all these years that you've been writing about it?
SEAJI got into this around 2004, To date, I have gone through around 12 or 13 of them and a quite a few just one / two nighters. Actually is was a colleague that told me about this about ten years ago. He actually set me up with a few of them in the beginning.
Bottom line, sometimes these long and frequent business trips gets quite boring and lonely and can get quite expensive if you start spending $$$ on WG, This is a great way to get entertain without spending hardly any money. There is a bit of danger but its life.
BTW, my real name is not BEN.
Bnlee,
Can I just be your wingman, and perhaps you could push to me your leftovers? I mean you make it sound so easy. In fact, I'm also ok with sloppy seconds. Can you take me on one of these trophy wife adventures? I am curious to see you in action.
AsnDragon.AsnDragon.
Most of these gals are starving for affection. Most of their husband / BF are working 24/7/365. These guys spends $$$ courting and securing them. Once they are done, they are out on the hunt for another. Many men have that mentality. These gals do not want to jeopardize their situation due to the money that they are receiving frm these guys but am quite lonely. That is why they want to meet discretely.
Here is a tip, I usually meet them in social function. They are the one that is sitting there looking bored and a bit pissed while their Signif. Other is trying to create the next big transaction. If they are near by, I try to create a conversation with them. I usually pays them a compliment like nice dress or something of that nature or maybe about the event that we are attending.
After doing this for the last seven to eight years, I have an inventory that will last me for a few more years. I have been getting some referrals from some of these gals. You can PM me and I can go into more details.
SE Asia Joe
10-17-11, 16:41
OAH.
Cut the cigs and you will be okay.
I usually spend a few months just watching the action from afar. The 18-20 year old is a bit too dramatic for me. I prefer the quiet evening in a nice hotel suite with a horny trophy (someone else's) housewife that haven't had sex for quite a while and having her f&ck the living daylights out of me and maybe sipping on a nice glass of vintage red wine. The older I get the more I prefer the quieter life. I may indulge in the 18-20 year old every now and then. I prefer not to have the drama.
Just my two rmb on this.Since this post was what got the whole discussion about your trophy wives in response to OAH's quandry!
Anyway, BnLee (thought I'd address you previously as Ben as you know what Bn sounds like in Chinese-LOL!) , now that I re-read OAH's and your recent reply, I'd opine that OAH's problem is just too many too little time!
I mean OAH must do in ONE month the 12-13 gals that you did the past 7 years.
OAH. Give it a rest, at least a few hours each time to give your LB a chance to recover and assume its rightful place in al 'them nice 18 YO nookies!
SEAJ
Hello, guys.
Polish Crew is back again, this time we have more bussiness trip but thanks to BSD we can see 18 BAR near to Clipper Hotel. BSD call us at 0:00 and take us by the limo WOW to the 18 club nice club with modern music and catwalk at the center of club. Lots of the girls. Some with guys but some looking for a guys. But we don't try so we don't know the costs.
But on wendasday we plan to join BSD party in KTV.
After this party ofcourse we post report.
Jacher
ManonsanBoy
10-17-11, 20:43
The famous hui wa has opened a branch in Tangxia. It is located near where all the new government offices are, about 1 km from Goodview Tangxia. KTV & sauna both available. I would wait 1 month for the operational glitches to settle.
Since this post was what got the whole discussion about your trophy wives in response to OAH's quandry!
Anyway, BnLee (thought I'd address you previously as Ben as you know what Bn sounds like in Chinese-LOL!) , now that I re-read OAH's and your recent reply, I'd opine that OAH's problem is just too many too little time!
I mean OAH must do in ONE month the 12-13 gals that you did the past 7 years.
OAH. Give it a rest, at least a few hours each time to give your LB a chance to recover and assume its rightful place in al 'them nice 18 YO nookies!
SEAJDamn, at 12-13 per month, it could be quite an expensive habit, maybe 500K+rmb over the years. Yikes. I prefer quality over quantity with these low mileage housewives or mistresses. I may do maybe just 50 or less WG / KTV types in any given year.
Fast Eddie 48
10-18-11, 06:40
Damn, at 12-13 per month, it could be quite an expensive habit, maybe 500K+rmb over the years. Yikes. I prefer quality over quantity with these low mileage housewives or mistresses. I may do maybe just 50 or less WG / KTV types in any given year.To Bnlee.
That is too much 500k rmb a yr OAH do mostly BBS girl at 150 RMB a pop, he like don't go to KTV much only with customer in Shanghai or Zhu Hai and he like freebie now like you, lucky for you guy live in China or take long business trip take time to look for house wive actions but I prefer University girl myself but no time to wind and dine them so I just go to BBS or Sauna.
Fast Eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
10-18-11, 09:46
To Bnlee.
That is too much 500k rmb a yr OAH do mostly BBS girl at 150 RMB a pop, he like don't go to KTV much only with customer in Shanghai or Zhu Hai and he like freebie now like you, lucky for you guy live in China or take long business trip take time to look for house wive actions but I prefer University girl myself but no time to wind and dine them so I just go to BBS or Sauna.
Fast Eddie 48Waaaahhh!
You know so much about so many people here!
I'd better be a bit discrete/careful next time I meet up with you.
LOL!
SEAJ
Last week I had a couple of days off before heading out of town. It's good news / bad news. I don't have to deal with the crowds and all the unwelcome "extras" that surround the Canton fair, but also I don't get to party with some good guys that are only in town a short time.
I was going to "take it easy" last week, since I had just come back to CP from a few days in the Phils, but you know how "the best laid plans" go!
One of the CP regulars was leaving town for an extended time so BSD was able to come up with an extra room for a going away party at Fu Hao. It was a small party and I had my regular girl sit with me, and the condition that she pick another girl to sit only. I figure if she knows I am not going to take someone out, she will pick a good one, plus the girl doesn't expect to go home with me. Well she did pick another "model", and at first I thought that she was going to be a "dud"! Was I ever wrong. It was a great party, and by popular demand, a "chill party", at least as far as the singing goes. We got pretty aggressive with the dice games and all the girls were fun. A couple of girls that we didn't even choose, came in to drink and party, I guess hoping to get picked up and taken out. My girl got a headache and wanted to go home, so I let her go, no harm, no foul. And then all of a sudden the whole party changed! A couple of the gals started wanting to dance, and one "kind of a country gal" was doing a great job of a "dry BJ". Don't ask.
In the end, the model girl wound up going home with another guy at the party. (He was nice enough to ask if he could take her, and I was happy to oblige) and I guess they had a great time! It went from a quiet night at home, to one of the best parties I have been to at a KTV! I got a few numbers for future use. When I return!
Okay the next night, I was really not going to party, but. It was my last chance for a few weeks and I wanted to party with a couple of guys that I had met earlier in the week. BSD somehow got a room at YiHao, (I have no idea how he does this on a consistent basis with all the people coming in town) , and we had about 8-10 guys including one "civilian" couple that like to choose a couple of girls to fill out a threesome / foursome. A first KTV experience for me. I almost never choose a model, because I figure they always get picked and don't have the incentive to give good service, but this time I saw a real cutie I couldn't pass up. At first she was reserved, but warmed up nicely. I had to leave early and wasn't going to take her, but when I asked if she wanted to come home for ST, she acted as if she really wanted to come along. Off we went to my place and this gal was beautiful. She was a little shy at first, but then got "into it" and turned into a very nice time. If I hadn't had to leave so early the next morning I would have kept her all night. I always enjoy it when after some "foreplay" you find the girl is soaking wet. It is a good sign that the session will have a little something more than a few fake moans. I will call this one again for sure.
It turned into a couple of really good nights, even though I wasn't going to party much. I really do have to slow down.
Thanks to BSD, Jetsetter, Flatstamp and a few others that shall remain nameless for the good ideas!
Whats all this 1-2-3 5-8-10 4-6-12?
Whats all this 1-2-3 5-8-10 4-6-12?Just so this doesn't turn into a 12 post RTFF bash, I will explain.
The first number is what you must pay a KTV girl to sit in the room with you, the second is what you must pay if you take her home for a short time (usually one pop, but sometimes you can get lucky, make sure you verify before the second pop) , and the third number is how much it costs to keep her overnight (or for multiple pops should you decide not to keep her until the next morning). As an example a 3-6-9 girl is 300rmb to sit. 600 rmb for short time (1 pop) or 900 rmb for overnight (or multiple pops).
The ST and LT include the sitting fee, so a ST fee is 300 to sit +300 for "pop", etc.
Your welcome!
To Bnlee.
That is too much 500k rmb a yr OAH do mostly BBS girl at 150 RMB a pop, he like don't go to KTV much only with customer in Shanghai or Zhu Hai and he like freebie now like you, lucky for you guy live in China or take long business trip take time to look for house wive actions but I prefer University girl myself but no time to wind and dine them so I just go to BBS or Sauna.
Fast Eddie 48FE48.
I was quoting conservatively over the seven year period. For the trophy housewives there is very little wining and dining. They want discretion. They are usually the one the set up the suite at a high end hotel (usually paying cash) and setting up the arrangement. The nice thing is that most of the times they loves giving me gifts and wining and dining me. Yeah, sounds like I'm the gig, but it is better than having those 18-22year old KTV girls dragging you along on shopping. Yeah, maybe I'm cheap, but I loves getting them going wild on me. I really does not take that much effort. The bottom line is that they are just lonely and horny. A few choice words can open up the floodgates.
Whats all this 1-2-3 5-8-10 4-6-12?Sorry SkyRyder, for the newbie(China 35) to ask such basic question is just unforgiven. Just RTFF. Really, he will be wiser. Reading a few pages is all China 35 needs to do.
Fast Eddie 48
10-19-11, 03:23
Waaaahhh!
You know so much about so many people here!
I'd better be a bit discrete / careful next time I meet up with you.
LOL!
SEAJOK SEAJ.
May be we can meet in Jarkata next month you can teach me some bahasa and show me where I can find some nice Cewek cheap.
Fast Eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
10-19-11, 04:37
OK SEAJ.
May be we can meet in Jarkata next month you can teach me some bahasa and show me where I can find some nice Cewek cheap.
Fast Eddie 48Again with the personal details!
But how is a Swede going to teach you Bahasa?
SEAJ
After some dim sum we decided to go to Hong kong (kowloon) for a day trip and come back in the evening for some sauna experience. This is around 1:30pm.
We bought a train ticket to go from CP to HK. At customs to leave CP one of the girls behind the counter that checks your passport decides that one of my buddy's passport photo does not look like him. So they detained him for 3 hours. They told us to go on ahead, but it's not like we're going to leave him there so we sat there to wait for him. After 3 hours of questioning they let us go, but at this point we didn't feel like going anymore. We wanted to walk back cross customs back to CP. They stopped us and there's some hoopla and from what I can make out they stamped our visa to exit China so there needs to be some stamp from the receiving country (Hong Kong) before they can let us in. Otherwise the record is all messed up that we leaved China, went nowhere, and then got back into China. This took another hour to sort out where supervisors were called in and there's a big meeting at the supervisor booth. Finally, they gave our passports back and let us back into CP. I'm not sure what they did or decided on.
After this drama, we were ready for some sauna action. We met up with ISO9000 and he took us to Ou Ya around 7:15. We were told that there's a show at 7:30. They took us into a room where there's a stage. They gave us each a flower. When you see a girl you like you give the flower to the girl to reserve her (you actually give it to the host and he / she will walk up the stage to give to the girl). The stage has disco lights and music is playing with a PA announcer announcing the girls name and number. It's almost like a cat walk where groups of girls walk in, each take their turn walking to the front of the stage, strike a pose, and walk back. I was told that the first group of girls are 300, the next group is 400, the next 500, then 600, and 800 (they are separated by dress colors). I saw one I liked in the 400 category (blue dress) and told the hostess to pick her for me. I had every intention to stay for the rest of the show to see all the girls, I just wanted to reserve that girl. But as soon as the hostess gives the flower to that girl, within minutes the hostess came back and told me that my room is ready. I only get to see a couple of the 500 girls (black dress) and they were looking real nice.
This report is getting longer than what I wanted to write, so I'm going to be brief from here.
Into the room I go and there's mirrors on all the walls and the ceiling. She puts on some music and starts a strip dance where she strips herself and me down. Then gives me a CBJ until I come. Then she leads me into a sauna room full of steam to work up a sweat. Then a standing shower. Then onto a bed of water where she gives me a titty massage all of my body. There's licking all over my body and she gives me BBBJ here. I almost came again from the BBBJ, I had to stop her. After toweling off, we got back onto the bed for some more titty massage. I got a lot of cat licking and some more BBBJ. Watching this on the ceiling mirrors was a turn on. She puts a condom on and then gets on top of me for some cowgirl action. Switched to mish, then to doggy so that I can see her face in the mirror. Timing was perfect cause you get a full 2 hours and right when I came the phone rang marking the end of the session (I believe you can extend the time for some extra RMB if you'd like)
Price for the room was 268. Girl was 400. So total was 648. She was well worth it. I gave her a 100 tip because I thought the service was excellent. I would definitely repeat. I think anybody going to CP should at least try the saunas. The hostess took the time to talk to us while we were waiting in the lounge area for one of my buddies. She told us that they have over 70 girls tonight. Before we know it I realize she was taking an exit survey on how we think of the service and the girl. Did the girl do this and that, etc and she was taking notes. We all gave the girls very good ratings.
I'd like to thank ISO9000 for recommending this sauna in Ou Ya for us. Would definitely do it again before we leave.
We booked a room at Hui Hua tonight. We were given sound advice to not enter our room to select girls because mamasans bring in one lineup at a time (usually 7 to 10 girls) , and it takes roughly 15 minutes to shoo the mommy and her lineup and get another lineup in. So on average you'll be able to see 40 girls in an hour. Instead, we should walk the hallways and check out multiple groups of girls going from one room to another. We found an intersection and parked ourselves there. I'll say we saw over 100 girls going by. We were also given advice to not select girls from the same group because they'll know each other and will talk to each other in the room and neglect you. And we did the exact opposite and selected all 4 girls from the same group. Lolz. These girls were fun and easygoing, and we had a blast. Learned to play a couple of other dice drinking games besides the typical liar's dice game. We ended up taking all 4 girls out for LT. The girls in purple dresses were 3-6-9, all others were 2-6-9. So basically the sitting fee is different but everything else is the same.
On a side note, one of my buddies wasn't able to find a girl he liked in the hallways so he came in to the room and asked for some lineups. He was determined to test the patience of these mommies. They must've brought in at least 8 lineups for him with him rejecting all of them. Each time the mommies are pushing this girl or that girl at him or saying that there are no more girls to select from. But there's always another lineup. I think the mommies are more determined to get you to select a girl. He eventually selected a young petite sichuan girl that was very outgoing and talkative. I guess the moral of this story is that don't be afraid to ask for another lineup if you don't see anything you like. For me, I feel obligated to select one if I've asked for 3 or 4 lineups already.
Hi folks,
Some help re hotels appreciated.
I stayed at Haixia Hotel in March / 11 and liked it. The rooms were clean, the price was sub-200 RMB and included an ok buffet breakfast. The room rate has increased now, but still reasonable. The only thing I didn't like was I had to take a taxi to go anywhere, so on my upcoming trip in November, I would like to find a hotel closer to the main drag, which to me is Zhongyuan Street, where HuiHua Hotel is.
Can someone recommend some hotels near to Zhongyuan St. At about the same quality and price as Haixia?
A friend mentioned that "Red Lion" Hotel has recently been renovated. Can anyone comment on Red Lion. If anyone has stayed there recently, has the hotel done a good renovation job, or it still suffers from stale old carpet odor?
THANKS!
DayKnight
California8
10-20-11, 05:31
.Okay the next night, I was really not going to party, but. It was my last chance for a few weeks and I wanted to party with a couple of guys that I had met earlier in the week. BSD somehow got a room at YiHao, (I have no idea how he does this on a consistent basis with all the people coming in town) , and we had about 8-10 guys including one "civilian" couple that like to choose a couple of girls to fill out a threesome / foursome. A first KTV experience for me. I almost never choose a model, because I figure they always get picked and don't have the incentive to give good service, but this time I saw a real cutie I couldn't pass up. At first she was reserved, but warmed up nicely. I had to leave early and wasn't going to take her, but when I asked if she wanted to come home for ST, she acted as if she really wanted to come along. Off we went to my place and this gal was beautiful. She was a little shy at first, but then got "into it" and turned into a very nice time. If I hadn't had to leave so early the next morning I would have kept her all night. I always enjoy it when after some "foreplay" you find the girl is soaking wet. It is a good sign that the session will have a little something more than a few fake moans. I will call this one again for sure.Sky Rider. I can see the smile on your face now! I can vouch that Sky Ryder picked a stunner, as soon as she came out in the lineup, we both looked at each other with our mouths open. Like you, I was not going to take out but ended up taking out too; so much for the best laid plans. Just back up that phone number somewhere in case you misplace your phone. And thanks for looking after me during last week's KTV activities.
Cal8
Hi Guys,
Anything recommendable of saunas or other places of actions near the new Sofitel Hotel in Humen, Dongguan?
Much appreciated.
Leo
We met a fellow monger at the mixed KTV session at Hui Hua. Nice fella. He spoke english like our group and we immediately connected. He's been to CP many times and has experience with the KTV scene.
On our last night in CP he called us to go to a lesser known KTV, Amazon. He says it's a bit rundown so people usually go to newer KTVs like Yi Hao or Eurasia. But he says the girls at Amazon are young and fun. Flower street starts at 7pm.
We were there a little before 7pm and was led into an elongated room about 15 feet wide and 100 feet long. There's a raised island in the middle of the room. The room is decorated with plenty of colorful ambient lights.
7pm comes and streams of girls are pouring out from this entrance and they get up to the island and take their respective spots facing out. It took a good 20 to 30 minutes for all the girls to get out and take their spots. They tell me there's 300 girls and I believe it.
So I'm walking around circling the island and checking these girls out. I notice some hotties, but I really want to check them all out before choosing so I continue on and make a mental note. There are definitely more girls to choose than guys choosing (maybe because Amazon is lesser known?). Anyway, after you see 20, 30 faces the girls start looking the same and it's getting hard to choose because there's so many. I made a full circle around and came back to a girl that I had made a mental note of choosing. She's from Hunan, and she says she's eighteen. She's a cute petite little thing with silky smooth skin and nice teeth. Nice teeth is a must for me because bad breath is a turn off for me. She tells me that she just started 2 months ago, and this is part time for her. Her sister doesn't know she's working so she has to be home by 1am. So no LT, but ST is okay if it's before 1am. This is fine with me since I have an early flight out the next day. Took her back and her pussy is so tight that she has to spend at least 5 minutes to ease into me with her on top of me.
Girls here are 2-5-8. If you want them to strip in your room, then they become 4-6-9. Make sure their tags have the HD sign if you want them to strip, but almost all of them have the HD sign.
SE Asia Joe
10-21-11, 10:31
Hi Guys,
Anything recommendable of saunas or other places of actions near the new Sofitel Hotel in Humen, Dongguan?
Much appreciated.
LeoYour best bet is to search this thread for Chang An or ChangAn or just CA as you're close to there / lotsa action there.
SEAJ
Hi Everyone,
Long time lurker reading this site so wanted to contribute some information.
If you are in the Houjie area, there are 2 excellent spots, I go to both these places regularly and I have never had a bad experience.
Dongguan Sheraton (Building next to the main building accessible from. 2 (carpark)
Price Ranges: 600, 800, 1000, 1000+ (models but I never go for them because they almost never have anything other than height.)
Room Fee: $378 RMB (you can stay overnight. No girl with you ofcourse)
Room is very comfortable, sauna room (no water bed) , very comfortable atmosphere.
All services available.
HJ Houjie International Hotel.
Price Ranges: 700, 800, 900, 1000+ (same thing about the "models")
Room Fee: $350? RMB.
Room is also very comfortable, water bed, big tv, etc.
There is no "dong long zuan" here.
You do need to know the mami in the above places in order to book the rooms for girls (no walk-ins) PM me and I can provide you with that info.
Another location someone just posted about earlier Ou Ya, been there a few times as well and service was even better than the above 2, only problem for me is that it is a little further for me.
I was wondering if anyone can help with KTVs in Houjie. I've been to a couple (Sheraton and one on SanFu Road) both were bad experiences. Any recommendations of a good KTV?
I am in Houjie a lot so feel free to give me a shout if you will be in the area.
DGinf
Sky Rider. I can see the smile on your face now! I can vouch that Sky Ryder picked a stunner, as soon as she came out in the lineup, we both looked at each other with our mouths open. Like you, I was not going to take out but ended up taking out too; so much for the best laid plans. Just back up that phone number somewhere in case you misplace your phone. And thanks for looking after me during last week's KTV activities.
Cal8Cal!
It was my pleasure and now that I have the os5 update, this little gal's info is safely stored in iCloud. LOL
I have already gotten two sms, wondering when I am coming back.
I look forward to your next visit to the SOP and am glad you decided to "maximize" your time in CP, it looked like to me you had a live one on your hands!
Sardaukar1
10-21-11, 22:31
I was wondering if anyone can help with KTVs in Houjie. I've been to a couple (Sheraton and one on SanFu Road) both were bad experiences. Any recommendations of a good KTV?Why / how were Sheraton and SanFu KTV bad?
Fast Eddie 48
10-21-11, 22:58
Hi Everyone,
Long time lurker reading this site so wanted to contribute some information.
If you are in the Houjie area, there are 2 excellent spots, I go to both these places regularly and I have never had a bad experience.
Dongguan Sheraton (Building next to the main building accessible from. 2 (carpark)
Price Ranges: 600, 800, 1000, 1000+ (models but I never go for them because they almost never have anything other than height.)
Room Fee: $378 RMB (you can stay overnight. No girl with you ofcourse)
Room is very comfortable, sauna room (no water bed) , very comfortable atmosphere.
All services available.
HJ Houjie International Hotel.
Price Ranges: 700, 800, 900, 1000+ (same thing about the "models")
Room Fee: $350? RMB.
Room is also very comfortable, water bed, big tv, etc.
There is no "dong long zuan" here.
You do need to know the mami in the above places in order to book the rooms for girls (no walk-ins) PM me and I can provide you with that info.
Another location someone just posted about earlier Ou Ya, been there a few times as well and service was even better than the above 2, only problem for me is that it is a little further for me.
I was wondering if anyone can help with KTVs in Houjie. I've been to a couple (Sheraton and one on SanFu Road) both were bad experiences. Any recommendations of a good KTV?
I am in Houjie a lot so feel free to give me a shout if you will be in the area.
DGinfTo DGINF,
Have you try the Cinese KTV and sauna have not been there for over 15 month, the Shahu hotel KTV and model bar is my favorite but have been going down hill the last few yr, the sheraton have a very good KTV also and you never try it but if you are by yourself there are a few disco you can go to pick up freelancer but not sure if they are still open or not, I think KYV in CP are much better Houjie is not as good as before.
Fast Eddie 48
Jim Traveller
10-22-11, 07:50
The famous hui wa has opened a branch in Tangxia. It is located near where all the new government offices are, about 1 km from Goodview Tangxia. KTV & sauna both available. I would wait 1 month for the operational glitches to settle.The Hui Hua Tangixa hotel is excellant. A class act just like Hui Hua CP. Promotional rate at 268, I did not enquire into further discounts. It is a steal at that rate. Rooms are in between the old hui hua's exec floor rooms and regular rooms. In fact closer to the old huihua exec floor rooms, less the bath tub. Some banging during the day as construction was still on going. The mgmt got an ear full from me. In my view the room is worth at least 400. If compared to Goodview, Hui Hua Tangxia is a no brainer for hotel choice. In fact, it is one of the best price / quality combinations I have seen in Dongguan in recent years. While goodview is one of the worst. Even leaving prices aside, Hui Hua beats goodview hands down.
Did not partake in the KTV.
Viewed sauna. It was a busy afternoon and the choices were not impressive. My friends were happy with theirs though. Don't remember exactly about the prices. Higher than CP but averge for Tangxia and beats the goodview sauna in price / quality ratio again.
Included breakfast is great.
No matter where you go and party in tangxia, I would recommend staying in Tangxia Hui Hua, a true 5 star, and a class act, and brand new. I would also stay in Goodview if I have to swim, the pool is huge, endless, deserted and impressive. If I bring my parents they'd enjoy the pool, but they will give me an earful over the exobitant price. Goodview is a hotel "has been". Huge, rundown, deserted and above all, overpriced for everything, from hotel rooms, footies to girls. If you are a cheap monger like me, I'd do my thing at Hui Hua. In a hot summer afternoon I would take the 15rmb taxi ride into goodview, dive into their pool. It is large and unsupervised. And when I am done, take a taxi back. If you are not a swimmer, forget goodview.
Sardaukar1
10-22-11, 23:01
So you're not required to show proof that you're a hotel guest to swim in the Goodview pool?
In a hot summer afternoon I would take the 15rmb taxi ride into goodview, dive into their pool. It is large and unsupervised.
SE Asia Joe
10-23-11, 05:28
So you're not required to show proof that you're a hotel guest to swim in the Goodview pool?LOL!
OMHO, like most things in China. If one walks in with a bit of swagger, nobody will double check!
LOL!
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
10-23-11, 05:53
So you're not required to show proof that you're a hotel guest to swim in the Goodview pool?To SAD.
If you get caught you have to give the hotel manager a BJ now that funny.
Fast Eddie 48
ManonsanBoy
10-23-11, 12:36
The famous hui wa has opened a branch in Tangxia. It is located near where all the new government offices are, about 1 km from Goodview Tangxia. KTV & sauna both available. I would wait 1 month for the operational glitches to settle.Stayed at Hui Wa Tangxia on Friday. Room is bargain@268. I will stay there until the price goes up. If it stays under 400, it will be my default hotel when I stay in Tangxia. Very comfortable but no bath (I never use them anyway). KTV is OK. Flower street 6-7 pm only. Sauna room is a basic 100 with upsell to 135 for steam sauna. Selection was not great@5-700 with a few 1000 (basically tall). There seems to be a shortage of girls right now. Sunny has reopened and is as before but less girls. I think Goodview will struggle with its 400 room charge. Time will tell. Holiday is an interesting set up. It functions as a hotel and a huge sauna (probably 50:50 basis) and sometimes they tone down the selection process if there are a lot of ah hem. Regular guests. Girls are sent to your room instead of going up with you.
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