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Jude Bright
10-23-11, 19:01
I was in Guangzhou for a few days and decided to take a side tour to CP. Send a email to BSD who respond to me right away and told me the hotel has been arranged. I called him after I got on the train to CP and let kim know I am on the way. Got a text messge on the train and said a car is waiting for me with number. I am so glad that BSD send a prive car waiting for me when I arrived because it was raining that day. It would be hard for me to look for a taxi with my luggage in the rain. The taxi took me to the restaurant where he is waiting for me. Had a quick lunch, he tool me to the hotel he has booked for me, the clipper. A great hotel for 300 a night. Good value. After drop off my luggage, we went to Yihao for sauna. The lineup is good. The price is 700, 800, 900. I choose the 828 one for 2 hours. The experience is great. Called he after the sauna and we off the footie with dinner. I was realy tire that day after a few days hard work and I opt to retire to hotel. He bought me to a chicken run and I got a gal for 250. SHe did a great BBBJ until I came and I gave extra 50 for the good service.
Next day, BSD meet me in the lobby of my hotel and send me to the train station. He makes sure I got the ticket and send me on my way.
I certainly had great time in CP for my short visit. BSD is great and he will take good care of you.
Thanks again.
JB
Why / how were Sheraton and SanFu KTV bad?I added another Houjie KTV under my belt (Jun Hua Hotel) off of Kang Le Nan Road. Again not a very good experience. The quality of girls at the KTVs in Houjie vs. Girls at Saunas is really big. And the quality of girls I have seen at ShenZhen KTVs were much much better than the ones in Houjie.
I mean decoration wise all 3 KTVs were fine, food was ok, price was not outrageous (although I am fairly new and don't know whats expensive) , good service, etc but the girls were just not up to par. I should not feel like the girl should be paying me to have them sit or that the girl should be paying me to take them back to my hotel!
Side Note:
Anyone in the area for the Canton Fair? I will definitely be here till the end of the week and will probably extend my trip.
Blacklisted
10-24-11, 06:17
Quick question maybe some knowledgeable soul can help with. Apologies if this has been discussed previously.
With regard to BSD, Ken and other KTV party organizers, does anyone have the details of a Chinese website on how to find these types of professionals in other cities?
I'm based in Shanghai and it's prohibitively expensive to party here so I'm hoping to track down one of these organizers to get some better deals here.
Thanks!
Sorry, newbie here. I am planning to go to Changping for the first time and will be traveling alone. Would like to get a gal from the KTV's but I'm not really sure I would want to pay for a room since I will be by myself and also not really a beer drinker. RTFF and KTV's seem to be geared towards groups. Will any KTV's allow takeout by just paying for the gal and the room even if I don't use the room?
SE Asia Joe
10-24-11, 09:02
Quick question maybe some knowledgeable soul can help with. Apologies if this has been discussed previously.
With regard to BSD, Ken and other KTV party organizers, does anyone have the details of a Chinese website on how to find these types of professionals in other cities?
I'm based in Shanghai and it's prohibitively expensive to party here so I'm hoping to track down one of these organizers to get some better deals here.
Thanks!I thought Dragon D does this in Shanghai?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads/page5
And I also see Ira Johnson advertising his fake Vit V and C's from Shanghai.
Just a thought.
SEAJ
Any senior can advise if I were to bring a mm to join me in hk, what is the rate to pay her?
Fast Eddie 48
10-25-11, 04:42
Any senior can advise if I were to bring a mm to join me in hk, what is the rate to pay her?To Kaffal,
Well it all depend how much money do you have more money you got the higher the rate right.
Fast Eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
10-25-11, 07:10
And I say ENOUGH!
Enough of this total lack of maturity amongst some members here who just don't know how to keep their mouths shut and respect other's privacy.
I just received a phone call from somebody very irate – and I say to hell with you idiots who would disclose personal details and whatever they learn from our boards and / or when meeting another member in person.
I am not only totally disillusioned by what is happening, I am truly appalled. I really think that Jackson should step in and enunciate clearly to everybody that we do expect a certain amount of discretion and maturity when participating here. It's total bullshit how some members here uses this board to their own advantage. Without any consideration to others and bereft of any common sense whatsoever.
SEAJ
Guitarrefreak
10-25-11, 07:26
Sad to see this happens in the China forum too.
I post mostly in the Tijuana forum since that is closer to home.
Sometimes I do get random calls from people who just happened to have my number from someone else I hung out with out of good faith.
Anyways, will be in CP myself in another 2 weeks, cannot wait to create some stories for myself there.
And I say ENOUGH!
Enough of this total lack of maturity amongst some members here who just don't know how to keep their mouths shut and respect other's privacy.
I just received a phone call from somebody very irate – and I say to hell with you idiots who would disclose personal details and whatever they learn from our boards and / or when meeting another member in person.
I am not only totally disillusioned by what is happening, I am truly appalled. I really think that Jackson should step in and enunciate clearly to everybody that we do expect a certain amount of discretion and maturity when participating here. It's total bullshit how some members here uses this board to their own advantage. Without any consideration to others and bereft of any common sense whatsoever.
SEAJ
Blacklisted
10-26-11, 01:49
I thought Dragon D does this in Shanghai?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads/page5
And I also see Ira Johnson advertising his fake Vit V and C's from Shanghai.
Just a thought.
SEAJHi Joe,
Dragon is more a newbie BBS helper. He sends BBS girls to you for high prices. I'm looking for someone like Dave in Shanghai. Even if it mainly is a catering to locals service. I am sure this is a typical job in China and there are KTV party Organisers all over, I just don't know how to find them in Chinese or on Chinese websites.
I am sure locals are not paying these ridiculous prices. In Shanghai sitting fees are up to 6K and for a room it's about 2 to 3 K.
If anyone has a tip on search terms in Chinese that would be great.
Thanks!
Jettsetter
10-29-11, 05:37
And I say ENOUGH!
Enough of this total lack of maturity amongst some members here who just don't know how to keep their mouths shut and respect other's privacy.
I just received a phone call from somebody very irate – and I say to hell with you idiots who would disclose personal details and whatever they learn from our boards and / or when meeting another member in person.
I am not only totally disillusioned by what is happening, I am truly appalled. I really think that Jackson should step in and enunciate clearly to everybody that we do expect a certain amount of discretion and maturity when participating here. It's total bullshit how some members here uses this board to their own advantage. Without any consideration to others and bereft of any common sense whatsoever.
SEAJJoe,
I agree with discretion. A few rules. When you meet me and I tell you my real name. Don't use it on the boards. We all use handles for a reason. If I give you personal details, unless you ask before hand, don't share it with everyone else. Not sure what your situation is Joe, but let's all be smart about what we publish and tell others. We are all part of an exclusive society, particularly those who we party with and we all have personal lives outside of this disneyland. So let's be discreet and smart about what we post and what we share with others. I. E. No photos, EVER! Not even if you block out my face. I'm sure I can tell people by even what clothing they wear, etc. Want to post girls, fine, but don't think it's okay to snap away in a KTV room. If it's a private party and we're all buds, sure, but even that s generally dangerous. But we don't konw each other or have a big party, then keep the camera app off.
Anyways, don't know what happened Joe, but I'm with you on discretion. But don't let one bad apple spoil your perception of the whole. Most guys I party with are very respectful.
-Jett
Joe,
I agree with discretion. A few rules. When you meet me and I tell you my real name. Don't use it on the boards. We all use handles for a reason. If I give you personal details, unless you ask before hand, don't share it with everyone else. Not sure what your situation is Joe, but let's all be smart about what we publish and tell others. We are all part of an exclusive society, particularly those who we party with and we all have personal lives outside of this disneyland. So let's be discreet and smart about what we post and what we share with others. I. E. No photos, EVER! Not even if you block out my face. I'm sure I can tell people by even what clothing they wear, etc. Want to post girls, fine, but don't think it's okay to snap away in a KTV room. If it's a private party and we're all buds, sure, but even that s generally dangerous. But we don't konw each other or have a big party, then keep the camera app off.
Anyways, don't know what happened Joe, but I'm with you on discretion. But don't let one bad apple spoil your perception of the whole. Most guys I party with are very respectful.
-JettJoe and Jett,
I agree completely. If I try to help someone out and they wind up with my contact info, etc, then the least they can do is ask me before giving it out or publishing my info. Otherwise it is REALLY bad form. I have to say, in recent history I cannot recall a situation where photographs or video "helped" someone. If I find out someone is taking pics or video without permission, I may just own a new phone or camera.
RCA Knight
10-29-11, 12:52
When join a mixed karaoke party, there will always be many brothers from many different Disney forums.
Try not to exchange name cards, I have seen this a few times, and once it happened to a friend, where he found his real name and activities appearing in Sex1*1 discussion.
After that he doesn't even give his real name in these mixed karaokes.
Jim Traveller
10-29-11, 15:43
I hate camera phones in a KTV.
I am certain nobody wants my photo, they just want their pics taken with their favourite girl. Fully clothed. What the fuck, wait till you get out of the room. I will tell you to your face it is uncool to practise your photography in a KTV room, and if my stern warnings go unheeded, be careful, I will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in your drink when you are not looking. A payback for making me watching over my shoulders for your camera.
I recall a recent Yihao party where some brother brought his wife and the two were taking pictures like a tourist. Well BSD say something to those idiots so that I won't have to practice my public pissing skills.
Cheers.
Joe,
I agree with discretion. A few rules. When you meet me and I tell you my real name. Don't use it on the boards. We all use handles for a reason. If I give you personal details, unless you ask before hand, don't share it with everyone else. Not sure what your situation is Joe, but let's all be smart about what we publish and tell others. We are all part of an exclusive society, particularly those who we party with and we all have personal lives outside of this disneyland. So let's be discreet and smart about what we post and what we share with others. I. E. No photos, EVER! Not even if you block out my face. I'm sure I can tell people by even what clothing they wear, etc. Want to post girls, fine, but don't think it's okay to snap away in a KTV room. If it's a private party and we're all buds, sure, but even that s generally dangerous. But we don't konw each other or have a big party, then keep the camera app off.
Anyways, don't know what happened Joe, but I'm with you on discretion. But don't let one bad apple spoil your perception of the whole. Most guys I party with are very respectful.
-Jett
Jim Traveller
10-29-11, 15:48
Stayed at Hui Wa Tangxia on Friday. Room is bargain@268. I will stay there until the price goes up. If it stays under 400, it will be my default hotel when I stay in Tangxia. Very comfortable but no bath (I never use them anyway). KTV is OK. Flower street 6-7 pm only. Sauna room is a basic 100 with upsell to 135 for steam sauna. Selection was not great@5-700 with a few 1000 (basically tall). There seems to be a shortage of girls right now. Sunny has reopened and is as before but less girls. I think Goodview will struggle with its 400 room charge. Time will tell. Holiday is an interesting set up. It functions as a hotel and a huge sauna (probably 50:50 basis) and sometimes they tone down the selection process if there are a lot of ah hem. Regular guests. Girls are sent to your room instead of going up with you.Ditto on your views for Huihua Tangxia. A class act of a hotel and very promissing sauna. Can't say the same about the Goodview, aging facilties, overpriced KTV and sauna.
What are the full names for "Sunny" and "Holiday"?
I hate camera phones in a KTV.
I recall a recent Yihao party where some brother brought his wife and the two were taking pictures like a tourist. Well BSD say something to those idiots so that I won't have to practice my public pissing skills.
Cheers.Jim T.
You got to be kidding, taking your wife to one of these KTV. What a total idiot. As for camera, if I see one going off in one of these places, I would take his camera and smash it telling him that it is uncool thing to do. I remember a few years back an idiot took out his camera at Amazon's flower street. No less than six security / thugs jumped on the guy and took his camera away. I think they also escorted him to an undisclosed location. What an idiot.
California8
10-30-11, 06:04
Cal!
It was my pleasure and now that I have the os5 update, this little gal's info is safely stored in iCloud. LOL
I have already gotten two sms, wondering when I am coming back.
I look forward to your next visit to the SOP and am glad you decided to "maximize" your time in CP, it looked like to me you had a live one on your hands!SR:
Sorry, I have been doing a bit of sightseeing and not able to access the forum. Indeed, she was a lively one, she told me up front ST so all good with me and I did get my money's worth. She at first said no BJ but soon figured out she would be there all night otherwise and was a trooper in taking CIM.
Cal8
ManonsanBoy
10-30-11, 10:32
Ditto on your views for Huihua Tangxia. A class act of a hotel and very promissing sauna. Can't say the same about the Goodview, aging facilties, overpriced KTV and sauna.
What are the full names for "Sunny" and "Holiday"?Sunny Business hotel and Holiday Huang xiang hotel
Just got back from a short trip to CP. I got to say that my overall impressions of CP are similar to a lot of the veterans on this board. That CP has gone down in quality. I was watching a documentary about when Vegas was run by the mob and they said that back then all the dealers knew your name, your drink, and your game. But when the corporations took over there was more glitz and glamour but none of the personalized service you used to get. I feel the same about CP. It used to be that when you chose a girl at a KTV, she was not there just for sex but also to be your "girlfriend" for the nite. Nowadays that is a 50/50 shot at best. I think that many of the girls are just there to play drinking games with you today. I also think the new pricing structures are wack. It used to be that it was all 2-5-8. I don't mind if they want to raise the price to 3-6-9 but there is also 3-7-11, 4-10-14, and probably others that I am not aware of. Its not just KTV to KTV but even within the same KTV the pricing structures are different. After a few drinks, I don't even remember how much I was supposed to pay. OK, enough of my rant. Onto the specific ktvs.
Yihao.
Thought the quality in looks was the best here. I like the two story flower street as there was more room to manuver. Went there twice and had one great experience with a 2-5-8 girl and another time picked a hottie that didn't seem into it so I ended up letting her go.
Peninsula.
I am generally not a big fan of this place but I know it has been a favorite of many others. I think that overall the girls are not that good looking at this joint.
Fuhao.
For those of you who like to spend some extra $, I found out that 3-7-11 girls at this joint must give BJ. At most ktvs I don't find much difference in quality between the higher priced girls and the lower priced girls. But I found the 2-5-8 girls at this joint to be much lower in quality.
LA Dude,
It was good seeing you this trip, even if it was only for a brief moment on Friday evening. I wanted to add and also put in my thought on your analysis of CP.
Firstly, in terms of girl's attitude towards their job and service they give to customers in KTVs, it has gone down in quality. This is in part due to China's young population going through life with no hardships due to the economic boom that as afforded them many luxuries that the previous generation was not able to experience. Back about a decade ago, girls that worked at KTVs were born in the 1980s. In the 1980's that's when Deng Xiao Peng opened up China to open up to the world economy. As a result, most of the girls born in that 80's decade still went through a lot of hardships, either in the city or the countryside. So they knew that value of a RMB and so they worked hard to earn their money. But girls born in the 1990's era were spoiled. After 10 years of economic boom in China, many kids born in 1990 and later already started to enjoy most of life's luxuries. Many of their parents who was born from the cultural revolution swore that they will not give their own children that same hardship. Nowadays, in KTV's you find that all girls are born after 1990 and their mindset is different. They only want to work there for fun. They would rather earn less money and not be poked by a customer they don't have a "feel" for. They have no concept of money management, most of them blow away money like it's nothing. After their money supply runs out they come back to work again. As a result, you end up seeing girls that do not show up regularly to KTVs to work. 8 years ago, girls would work as many days as they could to maximize their income. Nowadays girls only want to work Thursday to Saturday and maybe Sunday. I even met a girl who was still in high school coming to work at a KTV as a summer job before her school starts in September. This is their idea of a summer job- to earn the quick buck without doing anything hard. As time progresses the girls in China will become more lazy, service will go down. That is just how life works.
Now in terms of the quality of looks, girls in CP, in my opinion, has actually gone better across the board. BBS girls are hotter, Sauna girls have even more supply of talent, and the girls at KTVs has improved. The only one complaint I have is that KTVs are trying to upsell on their model girls. Girls that are not 168 cm or 170 cm or taller could not be a model. 2 years ago. But nowadays they push shorter girls to be in the model category to bring up their prestige value.
Yihao- Girls were hotter than just 2 months ago. Model category, although not all of them are that tall, were gorgeous. They had perhaps 20 models before, last I saw there were at least 40. 35% I could categorize them as high quality.
Fuhao- Surprisingly, I can usually never find someone I really like here, but this time I found the 2-5-8 to be very pretty. I even picked two girls with me, both gave good service and were very GFE. This is the first for me. I found that the 2-5-8 girls were better than the mid-range category that had the big boob category girls. I did not like the mask event. It was hard to look at the girl's faces and that was a major challenge for me. I think it was their way to trick customers to pick the girls without having the ability to be picky about their faces.
Mayflower- Took a stroll there, but didn't party there at all. Girl quality is the same as before. Lots of supply, but not that much quality. I'm tired of being rejected by girls from Mayflower. Struck out 3 out of 4 times there from previous trips so I tend not to warm well to that place.
Eurasia- Was bored and took a stroll to the flower street even though I didn't have a room or party there. Girls were great quality overall. Even more beautiful than Yihao. But the only problem was Eurasia girls seem to have a bit of a stuck up attitude sometimes. Eurasia still has the best looking girls around.
Penn- wasn't able to make it to Dave's party there. But buddies there said that they had a tough time picking girls there. I think girl quality from my last trip was not too bad. It's just that the white dress uniform is very deceiving. It pushes their breasts up to trick customers into thinking they have big breasts, but once you take them back to the hotel room, you are usually disappointed at the result.
So in terms of physical appearance, CP girl's quality has gone up. But in terms of service, they have gone down by quite a bit.
Still, CP is the best place to be at in China right now so far.
AsnDragon.
Just got back from a short trip to CP. I got to say that my overall impressions of CP are similar to a lot of the veterans on this board. That CP has gone down in quality. I was watching a documentary about when Vegas was run by the mob and they said that back then all the dealers knew your name, your drink, and your game. But when the corporations took over there was more glitz and glamour but none of the personalized service you used to get. I feel the same about CP. It used to be that when you chose a girl at a KTV, she was not there just for sex but also to be your "girlfriend" for the nite. Nowadays that is a 50/50 shot at best. I think that many of the girls are just there to play drinking games with you today. I also think the new pricing structures are wack. It used to be that it was all 2-5-8. I don't mind if they want to raise the price to 3-6-9 but there is also 3-7-11, 4-10-14, and probably others that I am not aware of. Its not just KTV to KTV but even within the same KTV the pricing structures are different. After a few drinks, I don't even remember how much I was supposed to pay. OK, enough of my rant. Onto the specific ktvs.
Yihao.
Thought the quality in looks was the best here. I like the two story flower street as there was more room to manuver. Went there twice and had one great experience with a 2-5-8 girl and another time picked a hottie that didn't seem into it so I ended up letting her go.
Peninsula.
I am generally not a big fan of this place but I know it has been a favorite of many others. I think that overall the girls are not that good looking at this joint.
Fuhao.
For those of you who like to spend some extra $, I found out that 3-7-11 girls at this joint must give BJ. At most ktvs I don't find much difference in quality between the higher priced girls and the lower priced girls. But I found the 2-5-8 girls at this joint to be much lower in quality.
I was invited by my good friend who had a business meeting with their clients in the Lang Royal Garden KTV. After not being there for almost 3 years I was quite curious as to what their quality is like right now. Since I only had one day before I flew off to Shanghai, I decided to check it out and stayed at the Lang for the night.
Royal Garden KTV is still considered the most luxurious KTV in all of Dongguan. I would rank it to be better than Sheraton of Houjie or Sangem in Tangxia. The normal girl categories were in this rectangular room. Four walls were lined up with at least 60 girls on each wall. Each wall had girls sitting on three levels so you could view them like fans on the bleachers. So there must have been at least 300 girls or more. Most of the quality of the girls there at the normal category price, was on par with Eurasia.
What sets them apart from the rest are the model quality girls. They have at least 100 of them. Most of them are very tall and fit within the realm of what a "model should be." They had runway shows that were extravagant and over the top. Each show they had 20 girls in different outfits run off on stage and if you like them you give them a rose for them to accept and they are yours for the evening. They had 5 different shows. 1 show was of model girls wearing bikinis, another 20 model girls came out in just underwear lingerie, another 20 models came out in ancient Chinese lingerie, another 20 models came out in gala gown dresses, and another 20 models came out in tight gogo girl costumes. The pricing for the model girls were 5-10-15. 5-15-2000 and the elite category which they had like 5 of, were girls close to 5' 10" to 6 feet tall were 5-2000-3000.
I did not pick even one girl the whole night because the models were nice, but they were all snatched up by big shots and the left over models were not worth the money. But the overall presentation was nice to experience. But the show dragged on for 1. 5 hours, which I thought was a bit too much.
It was fun just to see what they had to offer, and the hotel at Royal Garden it just terrific. It is a true 5 star quality hotel. But the evening was expensive, good thing my friend was able to charge it on his company expense, or I don't know how much I had to pay for the room and drinks that night, perhaps ranging up to 1000 per person. It makes BSD services a steal and makes you grateful for his good work.
AsnDragon
Since I needed a place to stay after my Royal Garden Event in the lang, I stayed at Tian Yu Hotel in the Lang. I went to their sauna in order to be able to stay overnight there. I felt adventurous and wandered in there to check out their stock of girls.
Tian Yu Hotel Sauna.
Chang Sheng Plaza, Dalang Town, Dongguan City.
Inclusive of the room fee they started out from 500, 600, 700, 800 to 900 RMB. The lower the price, the shorter the girls. What was interesting about this place was they had a special 900 RMB category girls- which comprised of three Korean girls, and 2 Columbian girls. I spoke to the Columbian girls in Spanish to make sure that they were really from where they claimed they were. Unfortunately, they were not the hot Columbian girl models you see in magazines. They were dark skinned and a bit too muscular for my taste. Besides, you don't come all the way to Asia to do a South American chick. Even though I have done a hot Venezuelan in Hong Kong before.
A cute Korean girl caught my eye. I usually would not pick any girl other than Chinese when I'm in China. Since getting a Korean girl is so easy from where I am from. But I got a cute Korean girl, who was about 5 feet 4 inches. Good sized breasts. But what really attracted me to her was her beautiful complexion and skin. I was milky white and smooth. The session was difficult to communicate since she had limited Chinese and English skills. My Korean isn't exactly enough to carry on a conversation either. So it was more of a hand-gesture, giggling physical direction and misdirection type of session. Overall the sex was quite nice. Very gentle and gave me a very warm GFE feel even though I don't know what the heck she was saying to me most of the time.
The Sauna girl quality was on par with Virgin. Except they didn't have that many girls at 11 pm. So I took what I got. 4 line up of girls with about 10 girls each. Since it was late I settled, but I wasn't such a bad experience in the end. Facility was somewhat clean. Near many shops and restaurants. Room was cleaner than CP Saunas because they probably have less business.
They do have quite a lot of Northeastern Chinese girls there. Not all of them were hot, but at least they were taller than usual and skinny.
AsnDragon
Just when you thought that Virgin had killed all of the other Sauna competitors around the block, Miraton Sauna is starting an aggressive comeback with their sauna revamp. New management has been placed in the Sauna. To promote their Sauna they are offering a 100 RMB discount on their room fee if you book with the manager of the Sauna directly. This offer is still going on for a few more days I think.
Out of the three hotels: Hui Hua, Hui Mei and Miraton, it use to be that Hui Hua was the best, then Hui Mei and then Miraton when it came to their Sauna. But now Hui Hua Sauna is going down the tube. Hui Mei's facility is the oldest of the three. Miraton is the best so far in my opinion of the three places.
Number 301 is a real hottie. She is the most seductive Sauna girl I've had in a long time. Most Sauna girls are in it for the money. Their skills level and feel is very mechanical. However 301 blew my mind away! She is one of those girls, where when you see her you know she likes have sex! She even told me, that she LOVES her job. There's no other job she likes better than her Sauna job because she gets to do what she likes best- having lots of Sex. She use to be a pole dancer in clubs before so she's flexible and very good at dancing and seducing you. She's got those luscious lips that felt so great around my little brother! Very Kinky girls, likes to even have you do her in front of the mirror doggy style so that she can see the reaction on your face she she's being done from behind. She was a handful and really one of the best experiences I've had in a long time. She is a bit older perhaps nearing 24. However, her skill level, enthusiasm and just her love of sex and the fact that her sessions are not all so rehearsed and mechanical makes the whole experience worth every RMB!
#301.
Hunan Province.
160 cm.
Slim with small B sized Breasts.
34B-24-34.
Tip was 500 room fee was discounted to be 198 or 168 I think.
Must have only weighed about 45-46 KG. She was a true spinner as well.
Bottom was natural not shaved.
Beautiful butt and terrific grinding power in bed.
I will give a thumbs up.
AsnDragon
So #301 is the sultry mistress seductive girl that loves to have sex. But #303 is the opposite. Just as skinny, a spinner. But her face is borderline angelic. Very sweet, innocent look. Her look is truly the girl next door look. Sweet smile, big eyes with a nice smooth complexion. Attitude was a bit shy and took some time to warm up to in bed. But once you get her warmed up and use to you she makes you feel like you are her boyfriend. She is not as smooth as #301 in her skill, but you know that she's new to the industry. Although she might takes things slower than other girls, that feeling feels really nice. As if you have found a new gem that hasn't been jaded by this industry for too long.
Once again her long straight hair adds onto her allure as the cute girl form next door look.
Give her a try if you are into taking things slow for the day. If you are into a hard pounding session, she is not the girl for you. But if you just want to take it easy for a change, her service is a good change to the "I got to get you off in the first 5 mins of locking the door so we can shower and do another session so we don't go over the 2 hour mark" type of session.
Once in a while, it's good to be with a girl who's not all that experienced.
Don't you think?
#303.
5 feet 2 inches.
Skinny / spinner.
A sized breasts.
Long straight hair.
The girl from next door sweet girl look.
AsnDragon
KTV parties with BSD and JetSetter are awesome! BSD is the great organizer and making sure everything runs smooth, but JetSetter is the real deal at making a party pop. JetSetter knows a bunch of drinking games that get everyone involved and the girls a little tipsy. The atmosphere in the room is a lot better when the girls are tipsy and the guys are loving it. I went to 3 KTV parties. 2 with JetSetter, and 1 without. The 2 with, the girls warmed up easily and had genuine fun, and that transferred over to the bedroom. The 1 without, it was a typical chill mellow KTV session, and that also transferred over to the bedroom. I can't complain because I was drained after the 2 parties, so a mellow session was a good change of pace. Anyhow, I'd like to thank BSD and JetSetter for showing me and my buddies a great time in CP. I think we have CP-itis already because on the flight back all we talk about is the next CP trip!
SE Asia Joe
11-02-11, 07:43
Hi Joe,
Dragon is more a newbie BBS helper. He sends BBS girls to you for high prices. I'm looking for someone like Dave in Shanghai. Even if it mainly is a catering to locals service. I am sure this is a typical job in China and there are KTV party Organisers all over, I just don't know how to find them in Chinese or on Chinese websites.
I am sure locals are not paying these ridiculous prices. In Shanghai sitting fees are up to 6K and for a room it's about 2 to 3 K.
If anyone has a tip on search terms in Chinese that would be great.
Thanks!Have you tried "shanghai-nightlife-guide"
Please of course put in the requisite prior 3W's and the com behind.
SEAJ
LincolnRobinson
11-02-11, 18:47
Does anyone have Ken's info they could pass along? Would like to get in on one of these KTV parties in DG this weekend.
Thanks!
It was fun just to see what they had to offer, and the hotel at Royal Garden it just terrific. It is a true 5 star quality hotel. But the evening was expensive, good thing my friend was able to charge it on his company expense, or I don't know how much I had to pay for the room and drinks that night, perhaps ranging up to 1000 per person. It makes BSD services a steal and makes you grateful for his good work.
AsnDragonRG does indeed have some very good talent, and the girls do not play on the phone and the one party I had there we actually spent only 500 / head and we were wasted. Four people and a good time. In fact I thought all the girls in the room were very cool. Perhaps their service is the best in the region now. Well trained in KTV etiquette. I did not sit a girl that night as the one I picked was not convenient, so therefore brought in sand, although I spent the time waiting hitting on the DJ who was also cute. They seem to have 200/300/400 level DJs there with no difference in looks only seniority as far as I could figure.
Note though their sauna is often closed because somehow I don't think with all their money they have the right connections. I doubt they would raid a KTV there but be sauna weary when there is wind.
Fuhao.
I had renamed it Buhao, because recently a serious lack of talent in terms of prettiness, and them putting alot of dogs in the model category. Last time I did find a cute one who was very cool, fun in KTV and later and did not play a lazy game for a morning pop. More than willing. Actually was able to choose 5 girls on the last Friday there however 4/5 being inconvenient. Bad time of the month I guess.
Bandao (BanMei).
Still don't like this place, they just aren't that cute, the mommies are annoying and very slow for lineups. Flower streets can be annoying but they are efficient, the lineups maybe you see 50-70 in an hour, and many just are passes. The mommies clearly save their best for bsds leaving us part timers scraps. And every time I drink there I get a headache meaning probably fake beer.
Yihao.
I do like the two floor lineups, always seem to find something I like but it is hit or miss on the performance.
Mayflower.
Only once this trip and again had good luck. ASNdrangon. I don't know why you strike out here, but it is good fun.
Finally this trip we tried something new which is no KTV party, we went to the BBS and picked up two girls 250/4 hours (although another brother negotiated.
250/4 hours + pop) , we had to add 100 for the pop or 600 for overnight, but they were more fun and better service than most of KTV girls.
Note we started early 7; 30 ish and there isn't anywhere to go at that time except KTV or dinner, none of the bars is even worth going to before 10pm.
I suppose a better strategy is to take them home, then decide keep them for the night or go back for another pick to take out to the bar.
18 Palace, charges 250-300/12 Beers. 250-350 for decent redwine / sprite. If you want a couch you can reserve and there is a 250 fruit setup charge, note you.
Will get some free appetizers along the way. Good fun.
Also checked out Mango. There are girls there working unofficially. If you want to drink with someone, the mini managers will find you a girl, they don't want.
To promote anything else but it is CP and I guess it would be on vibe. There is no commitment (hence why BBS might be a better bet with more selection).
Mango has a central DJ / dance stage with lower tables around it and a higher level with couches. They also have a shot set (120) for test tube shots which are good.
And really get you rolling. Despite the fancy look they are actually cheaper than 18 for beer by about 10, Cali Red is the cheapest of all the places and the loudest / most disorganized which is why it also is filled with KTV girls on Sunday and Monday night on their nights off.
Everyone knows I pick models. For my taste, it works because of my standards. I'd rather pay more to get what I like. I'm not an overnight guy anyhow. Fortunately, if you have my taste, all the KTVs had good models if know how to speak Chinese and ask the right questions, especially determining their true height.
AsnDragon. You got me mixed up with LADude. I met you on your way out Friday night. He had already left a few days before that. I want to visit the place we discussed, let me know if you want to take a trip out there.
Freepeaks. That was a nice change of pace. Although we went a little early, I had a good time with my girl. Let's do it again sometime.
I had one bad experience with a brother making a girl cry and chastising her for playing a game with another brother. Not cool and bad etiquette. Any brother will refuse a girl to play if he receives a signal. Or telling the room leader (BSD) will be enough. It's true you are paying the sitting fee, noone will disagree. But, we are all there to have fun, and those actions ruins everyone's good time. I give you some slack because you were drinking heavily. BTW, I won't respond to anything posted regarding this issue.
LAMonkey
Noone like BSD in Shanghai, Shanghai brothers come down to CP to party, including myself. I know DragonD. It's a totally different service altogether.
Hi Joe,
Dragon is more a newbie BBS helper. He sends BBS girls to you for high prices. I'm looking for someone like Dave in Shanghai. Even if it mainly is a catering to locals service. I am sure this is a typical job in China and there are KTV party Organisers all over, I just don't know how to find them in Chinese or on Chinese websites.
I am sure locals are not paying these ridiculous prices. In Shanghai sitting fees are up to 6K and for a room it's about 2 to 3 K.
If anyone has a tip on search terms in Chinese that would be great.
Thanks!
I had one bad experience with a brother making a girl cry and chastising her for playing a game with another brother. Not cool and bad etiquette. Any brother will refuse a girl to play if he receives a signal. Or telling the room leader (BSD) will be enough. It's true you are paying the sitting fee, noone will disagree. But, we are all there to have fun, and those actions ruins everyone's good time. I give you some slack because you were drinking heavily. BTW, I won't respond to anything posted regarding this issue.
LAMonkeyAnother PoV is if someone is paying 1500 in sittings fees alone, he expects the company of the girls he is with. A brother that deliberately focuses on the attention of another brother's gals without asking also constitutes bad form in my book. Some brothers sit one girl, I enjoy at least 3. To each his own. I'm also done with this subject as well. In the future, I guess I'll just make my expectations to those around me more clear to avoid misunderstandings. I'm sorry if I ruined your good time. My good time was ruined as well.
'lad
LA Monkey,
Sorry I got you mixed up with LA dude. The whole LA thing got my confused.
But now come to think of it, you are the "model" only picker. From what I recall, your type of girl is predictable. Tall, nice body like a swimsuit Model with a rack. We can coin it to be LA Monkey Girl, just like how we have "Jim Traveler Girl" and "Bruce Tea Girl", might as well invent "LA Monkey Girl"
But yeah I think we should visit that one place that we had discussed. According to my friend, he had a really tall model quality girl for half of the price you would pay at CA. Can you believe that? 1/2 the price!
I wasn't in the room in regards to the whole girl crying situation. However, many girls play with other brothers. I think girls are just trying to be friendly. Girls I pick play with other brothers all the time too and I think it's ok. I guess some guys are just more sensitive.
AsnDragon.
Everyone knows I pick models. For my taste, it works because of my standards. I'd rather pay more to get what I like. I'm not an overnight guy anyhow. Fortunately, if you have my taste, all the KTVs had good models if know how to speak Chinese and ask the right questions, especially determining their true height.
AsnDragon. You got me mixed up with LADude. I met you on your way out Friday night. He had already left a few days before that. I want to visit the place we discussed, let me know if you want to take a trip out there.
Freepeaks. That was a nice change of pace. Although we went a little early, I had a good time with my girl. Let's do it again sometime.
I had one bad experience with a brother making a girl cry and chastising her for playing a game with another brother. Not cool and bad etiquette. Any brother will refuse a girl to play if he receives a signal. Or telling the room leader (BSD) will be enough. It's true you are paying the sitting fee, noone will disagree. But, we are all there to have fun, and those actions ruins everyone's good time. I give you some slack because you were drinking heavily. BTW, I won't respond to anything posted regarding this issue.
LAMonkey
SEAJOE,
Hey young lad, whatever happened to our Mango Bar trip, where we were going to go together and pick up on some young hot girls? I wanted for your phone call on Sunday but I think you forgot, or you were too occupied with romancing one of your MANY young female companions.
In any case, I didn't get around to going to Mango yet, I guess I'll just for you to go on my next trip there to CP.
AsnDragon
As strange as that may be, I had a question about this topic.
Now in China, when you do business, people go to a KTV to have fun and relax and do everything else but discuss business. In CHina if you are big shot, you have to have a mistress, or a girlfriend or just some other girl than your wife at one of these Business KTV functions. You need to have a mistress in order to be considered a well accomplished businessman.
Now, what if you had a really HOT wife! And you wanted to bring her to one of these business KTV meetings. Would that be strange for all the other guys in the room? I always wondered if people did that. I see mistresses and Girlfriends at these functions. But what if a guy was just that dedicated to his hot wife that he wanted to bring her along. I guess you would have to lie that your wife is your mistress in order to not get a grin or evil eye at the function.
I guess that's why BNLee gets so many of these trophy wives. Their husband is out there with all these other girls more days than they spend time with their wives that they end up becoming lonely and fall for any guy who gives them attention.
You know what they say, if you don't stand for something, you'd fall for anything.
AsnDragon.
I hate camera phones in a KTV.
I am certain nobody wants my photo, they just want their pics taken with their favourite girl. Fully clothed. What the fuck, wait till you get out of the room. I will tell you to your face it is uncool to practise your photography in a KTV room, and if my stern warnings go unheeded, be careful, I will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in your drink when you are not looking. A payback for making me watching over my shoulders for your camera.
I recall a recent Yihao party where some brother brought his wife and the two were taking pictures like a tourist. Well BSD say something to those idiots so that I won't have to practice my public pissing skills.
Cheers.
Legal Lad,
I know you always like to roll with three girls at a time at KTVs. Well at LEAST three girls, sometimes you pick even more than three at a time. But last time when we were at Yihao and you had two girls, I think it worked out well for you. You had one girl in each arm and they both paid attention to you the whole evening. I mean we have partied together on many occasions and I think you work best with two girls. Sometimes when you pick three girls, that other third girl doesn't know what her place is and goes off wandering around, which I don't think is too good of a thing. Although you could have the third one sit on your lap.
In any case, hope you are having fun out there in CP. In fact, I know for a fact you are probably having fun there right now as we speak. You check out the Sauna that we talked about before yet?
AsnDragon.
Another PoV is if someone is paying 1500 in sittings fees alone, he expects the company of the girls he is with. A brother that deliberately focuses on the attention of another brother's gals without asking also constitutes bad form in my book. Some brothers sit one girl, I enjoy at least 3. To each his own. I'm also done with this subject as well. In the future, I guess I'll just make my expectations to those around me more clear to avoid misunderstandings. I'm sorry if I ruined your good time. My good time was ruined as well.
'lad
SE Asia Joe
11-03-11, 08:18
SEAJOE,
Hey young lad, whatever happened to our Mango Bar trip, where we were going to go together and pick up on some young hot girls? I wanted for your phone call on Sunday but I think you forgot, or you were too occupied with romancing one of your MANY young female companions.
In any case, I didn't get around to going to Mango yet, I guess I'll just for you to go on my next trip there to CP.
AsnDragonHmmm. Not sure!
This past week I was in CP 2 nights only (Monday night to Wednesday night, yesterday). The week previous I was there Saturday to Tuesday but I was down with a bad cold for most of the 3 days there.
Sorry. We'll make it the next time!
SEAJ
Jetsetter is the undisputed King of Liar's Dice. I was losing heavily to a girl until he sat down next to me and started playing with her. Needless to say, I don't think I've ever see a KTV girl end up so drunk. It must have been a be*tch to clean up all that throw-up.
LAMonkey
SEAJOE,
Hey young lad, whatever happened to our Mango Bar trip, where we were going to go together and pick up on some young hot girls? I wanted for your phone call on Sunday but I think you forgot, or you were too occupied with romancing one of your MANY young female companions.
In any case, I didn't get around to going to Mango yet, I guess I'll just for you to go on my next trip there to CP.
AsnDragonI did go, but you were busy resting I heard (we called you). They do have girls at Mango, they are unofficial. I guess freelancers, I didn't try to pickup as.
I brought Rockstar, but her friend and her said they were available for sitting ask any manager to find you one and after that you negotiate.
It is a cool place, and is in between 18 / Cali Red in pricing, but definitely upscale industrial design (Steam Punk as LA said). It isn't too.
Loud like CaliRed but isn't as social as CaliRed (the tables are all very close so you can make new friends easy).
Freepeaks,
I did recall you texting me a couple of months ago to go out to some bar, but you said you were going to Gonguan 18 and not Mango. I think Dan Hawaii was with you that one time. I was feeling a bit sick that night and was just resting up at the hotel. But I'm sure that it was not Mango, Because as I recall on my previous trip Mango was still under renovation, it hadn't opened until about a month ago.
But I agree with you, Cali Red is just too loud. I can't even hear myself think when I'm inside there. I guess when you get to be my age, you can't take loud music atmosphere anymore. You must have had a hell of a time with your Rock Star. But doesn't she have to work at Walter?
I did go, but you were busy resting I heard (we called you). They do have girls at Mango, they are unofficial. I guess freelancers, I didn't try to pickup as.
I brought Rockstar, but her friend and her said they were available for sitting ask any manager to find you one and after that you negotiate.
It is a cool place, and is in between 18 / Cali Red in pricing, but definitely upscale industrial design (Steam Punk as LA said). It isn't too.
Loud like CaliRed but isn't as social as CaliRed (the tables are all very close so you can make new friends easy).
SEAJOE,
No problem at all. I hope you are feeling better with your cold. But having a sweet girl next to you taking care of you must have helped you heal faster! Right?
Take care young lad, we'll party again next time.
AsnDragon.
Hmmm. Not sure!
This past week I was in CP 2 nights only (Monday night to Wednesday night, yesterday). The week previous I was there Saturday to Tuesday but I was down with a bad cold for most of the 3 days there.
Sorry. We'll make it the next time!
SEAJ
I would have to agree that Jetsetter is quite good in lairs dice. When he plays, and the girl calls out the first number, Jetsetter gives the girl this very skeptical look, and looks deep into her eyes, which I think kind of makes the girl feel uncomfortable and then reveals a bit of whether or not she is lying or not. But He's got some pretty good skills in those games and is pretty good at making girls pretty drunk.
I think he almost got one of my girls really drunk at Mayflower one time, I had to pull her away or else she'd be out of commission and pass out back in the hotel room. Jetsetter has this one game that he's invented where it's a "girl versus guy" dice game and it involves the whole group of people. That's the best way to get all the girls drunk at one time. Quite inventive.
AsnDragon.
Jetsetter is the undisputed King of Liar's Dice. I was losing heavily to a girl until he sat down next to me and started playing with her. Needless to say, I don't think I've ever see a KTV girl end up so drunk. It must have been a be*tch to clean up all that throw-up.
LAMonkey
SE Asia Joe
11-05-11, 07:25
I would have to agree that Jetsetter is quite good in lairs dice. When he plays, and the girl calls out the first number, Jetsetter gives the girl this very skeptical look, and looks deep into her eyes, which I think kind of makes the girl feel uncomfortable and then reveals a bit of whether or not she is lying or not. But He's got some pretty good skills in those games and is pretty good at making girls pretty drunk.
I think he almost got one of my girls really drunk at Mayflower one time, I had to pull her away or else she'd be out of commission and pass out back in the hotel room. Jetsetter has this one game that he's invented where it's a "girl versus guy" dice game and it involves the whole group of people. That's the best way to get all the girls drunk at one time. Quite inventive.
AsnDragon.Got a question for you. And others here.
Of late, I've had a bit of a changed "perspective" on the whole KTV experience, resulting from a bit of changed personal circumstances I suppose!
And now I'm starting to wonder about the "wisdom" or even usefulness of getting KTV girls drunk.
The already wild-by-nature is only going to get wilder (and out of control) , the meek ones are just going to get pissy drunk / throws-up / pass out, others are just going to be a pain in the ass as a whole PLUS the bill just gets all ballooned out. For WHAT?
And when and if you do take a drunk KTV gal back to the room., what you like them passing out / throwing-up / go crazy mean in the room?
What are the chances of a drunk gal being THAT MUCH better in the sack?
Just wondering what you guys think when wanting to get a KTV gal drunk.
And in most cases, getting yourself blotto drunk / out of it in the process!
SEAJ
Sardaukar1
11-05-11, 07:56
Got a question for you. And others here.
Of late, I've had a bit of a changed "perspective" on the whole KTV experience, resulting from a bit of changed personal circumstances I suppose!
And now I'm starting to wonder about the "wisdom" or even usefulness of getting KTV girls drunk.
The already wild-by-nature is only going to get wilder (and out of control) , the meek ones are just going to get pissy drunk / throws-up / pass out, others are just going to be a pain in the ass as a whole PLUS the bill just gets all ballooned out. For WHAT?
And when and if you do take a drunk KTV gal back to the room, what you like them passing out / throwing-up / go crazy mean in the room?
What are the chances of a drunk gal being THAT MUCH better in the sack?
Just wondering what you guys think when wanting to get a KTV gal drunk.
And in most cases, getting yourself blotto drunk / out of it in the process!
SEAJI actually don't, and never did, see the point of getting KTV girls drunk. In fact, I tend to do the exact opposite. Prevent them from getting drunk! Once I see my KTV girl on the verge of stepping into drunkenness from tipsy land, I stop her from playing any more drinking games. If she does insist on drinking regardless, I issue a stern warning that I would send her home without even paying the sitting fee if she gets herself drunk (but only in extremely rare cases would I have to resort to this).
I have NEVER had a good experience with girls who got [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-drunk from the KTV session. I encourage slight tipsiness, but not drunkenness.
And of course, the extra benefits of not getting the girl drunk are, I wouldn't get myself drunk and I get to save money!
I have always played drinking games to have fun, to get to know the girl and see what kind of personality she has. You can't have a great party without the alcohol but some of the girls are using the alcohol as an excuse. I think I get better service in bed when the girl is sober as opposed to drunk. I have had girls who pass out in the KTV room and I have also had girls who passed out in my hotel room. Neither is a good option. If I see my girl drinking like a fish, I will just take her home early so I can get my money's worth in bed. The bill does get a bit too high for a relative light weight drinker like myself. Thats why I find myself hitting the saunas more than I used to.
And now I'm starting to wonder about the "wisdom" or even usefulness of getting KTV girls drunk.
The already wild-by-nature is only going to get wilder (and out of control) , the meek ones are just going to get pissy drunk / throws-up / pass out, others are just going to be a pain in the ass as a whole PLUS the bill just gets all ballooned out. For WHAT?
And when and if you do take a drunk KTV gal back to the room, what you like them passing out / throwing-up / go crazy mean in the room?
What are the chances of a drunk gal being THAT MUCH better in the sack?
Just wondering what you guys think when wanting to get a KTV gal drunk.
And in most cases, getting yourself blotto drunk / out of it in the process!
SEAJ
SEAJOE,
Well young lad, you have a great point. I agree with other brothers, that I never try to get my girl drunk at all. It's happened once at Cali Red KTV where a girl just got plain drunk, drinking as much as possible even though I hadn't asked her to drink at all. She then passed out and threw up in the KTV room and her Mommie had to carry her out of the room. In fact, I didn't even have to pay for her sitting fee because she was completely out. But since I never like to cheat people, I ran over and told her Mommie that I had her 200 RMB and stuffed it in her pocket. While she was drunk I got her cell phone and used to call my cell phone so I could get her number. I called her the next day to make sure she got the sitting fee and that her Mommie didn't take that from her. So I learned a lot from that lesson, even if the girl wants to drink a lot, don't allow her to drink too much. That girl was a Dongbei girl, really slender, really tall 170 cm and just so darn cute! I miss her a lot even until today. (in the beginning she was so shy, but once she got drunk she started grinding me really hard on my crouch the whole evening.)
Getting the girl a bit tipsy is good. She opens up a bit and becomes less reserved. I find that tipsy girls, with a little buzz, seem to become more touchy and are more open to you becoming more touchy with them.
But then again it depends on the girl. Some girls when they are tipsy get a bit strange in bed. They start laughing for no reason and can't get serious enough to get in the mood of having Sex. While some girls when they are a bit buzzed with alcohol, become completely wild in bed and just can't get enough of sex. So it all depends on the girl.
But when in doubt, try to not allow your girls to get too tipsy or drunk. It's better to have a sober girl so that you can at least know that she's not going to "pretend" to be too drunk to have sex and pull a fast one on you.
I have had one girl I took back to my hotel room once, and she threw up about 2-3 times in my sink, NOT toilet. It was stinky and a whole mess of what she ate that evening, which was at KaiYingGe Western Restaurant back in the days, which use to occupy that underwear store right across from Virgin Hotel. It was such a waste, waste of good food, good wine and a passed out girl I couldn't do the whole evening. Not to mention the stench of her vomit that couldn't go down the sink drain.
AsnDragon.
Got a question for you. And others here.
Of late, I've had a bit of a changed "perspective" on the whole KTV experience, resulting from a bit of changed personal circumstances I suppose!
And now I'm starting to wonder about the "wisdom" or even usefulness of getting KTV girls drunk.
The already wild-by-nature is only going to get wilder (and out of control) , the meek ones are just going to get pissy drunk / throws-up / pass out, others are just going to be a pain in the ass as a whole PLUS the bill just gets all ballooned out. For WHAT?
And when and if you do take a drunk KTV gal back to the room, what you like them passing out / throwing-up / go crazy mean in the room?
What are the chances of a drunk gal being THAT MUCH better in the sack?
Just wondering what you guys think when wanting to get a KTV gal drunk.
And in most cases, getting yourself blotto drunk / out of it in the process!
SEAJ
I know a lot of brothers here have been coming to CP or CHina in general only for the last couple years or three years or so. But as I think about how it use to be in CP, I have this nostalgia, yearning for all of the great things CP use to offer that seems missing these days.
Expectations of WG
I remember when WG use to be happy with a 10 RMB tip. I also remember when a girl was happy and grateful when you took them out to shop and they were genuinely satisfied with a 10 RMB T Shirt or a 15 RMB sunglasses at the pedestrian walk outside shopping area. I remember once taking a WG, from a BBS and took them to eat Sour and Spicy noodles for 6 RMB a bowl and she was so happy with it while we chatted about everything and had a good time. A time when an ice cream cone at McDonalds was such a big treat that when you got them one, they would be skipping all the way back to the hotel room with you. Or a time when I bought a girl a huge stuffed animal for 100 RMB and she cried and asked me how come I treated her so well?
Girls that were happy with just a few thousand a month to sponsor them. Sure part of it was the money amount that I missed, but part of it was the level of money they needed to be content. Back then girls were just happy if they didn't have to work so hard at a factory, and have enough money to live, spend and send money home. They were grateful for that opportunity to just live well with stability of a subsidized income of a few thousand. But nowadays, girls are not satisfied. They never lived through true hardship so money to them is no object. You could give a girl 10, 000 RMB a month to sponsor them and they would laugh at you. You give them 20, 000 RMB a month that they will still find ways to milk more money out of you. Girls these days are not content with any amount of money because I find that girls these days are a bit wasteful. Whether it is borrowing money to friends in debt or just spending it on gambling, shopping etc, girls tend to be more money minded these days. They don't consider the effort behind the money, they only look at the money.
Attitudes of WG.
I remembered when getting a BBS girl was enough. Sure they weren't the prettiest, but they were the most innocent. Where most girls only came from factories to earn an extra income and were not tricked by their useless BF into the trade. Where most girls actually took the time to know you and took the time to make you have a great session. Nothing was rushed and it felt like you had all the time in the world. Whereas now, Mommies call them 10 mins after they enter in the room asking if you are finished yet because another customer wanted them and are waiting. Even mommies back then were more laid back, and did not shove girls in front of you becoming impatient that you did not pick a girl within 10 seconds. BBS were stocked full of girls, and the girls seemed to look more innocent. They seemed to look kinder in their demeanor and the way they carried themselves. They appeared less jaded by the environment around them. Many of them actually liked to have sex. I remember that before there was a time where after you finish, they would lay there in bed with you for just a short while before hopping into the shower. It made you feel like it was not such a rushed session, but something special.
Transportation.
Although it was so dangerous back in the days, there were hardly any taxis around. The streets were littered with small Bread Vans and motorcycles. I rode the motorcycles to more places than I did with a car. Sure there was a whole lot of pollution around to be breathing that exhaust into your lungs. But I found that people were a bit more honest back then. It was 5 RMB for a Motorcycle (sometimes you could get away with 3 RMB) , and 10 RMB for a bread van. Unlike today when taxis charge you more based on if it's close to 6 pm, or if it's raining, or if they know you are in desperate need of a ride. Back then, if it was once price, all other people abide by that price. Nowadays, I dread hopping into a taxi and having to bargain and yell at them to make sure I'm not being ripped off.
I'm sure there's a whole lot, it's just much of it escapes me at this point. I guess I'm getting old and forgetting a lot of stuff.
Any old timers have anything to share about the good old days?
AsnDragon
One thing I forgot to add was I miss the night market at Hua Xi Jie. I miss the times when you strike out at KTV and know that Night Market was the final destination to go to in order to save the night from a complete disaster. The 5 rooms of girls lined up with the newest of new WG around. The price was unbeatable and at times I got even better girls there than other BBS, Sauna or KTV girls.
I had one girl who was new to the whole WG world. Use to work as a Beer Saleswoman at Clubs back in Hunan. She was hot! I mean 168 CM tall with a rack and beautiful face. When I took her onto my taxi and took her back to my hotel room, even the taxi driver was commenting on how pretty she was. I liked her so much I kept her overnight. We chatted and she said she was half Hunan and half Northeast, hence her nice features and height- from the North East genes and her white and skinny body from the HUnan side I suppose.
She even folded my clothes for me because I was to leave the next day. Just such a great girl. I was falling for her big time and it was only one evening. Later on she worked at Hui Hua KTV. Had to quit due to the crackdown that season. I met up with her one more time and then she changed her number and I never heard from her again. One of those gems I found at Night Market and never heard from them again. If only I had been more active on QQ I would still be able to find her again.
I also got a girl who was so pale and fair skinned- milky smooth and white. Big breasts that were healthy and did not droop at all. Cute face with dimples. She later on became a DJ at Hui Mei. She changed her number as well and I couldn't find her again. But another great find a the Night Market.
The whole Jun Hui set up just doesn't seem to be the same.
I miss the Night Market. I'm sure many other brothers who have been there miss it just as much. This venue picks up where all the other places have closed. The graveyard shift of WG. What can be any better for brothers who have sleepless nights?
AsnDragon
Fast Eddie 48
11-07-11, 00:25
One thing I forgot to add was I miss the night market at Hua Xi Jie. I miss the times when youTo ASN.
Yes the Old Night market near the CP hospital most of the girl that I find are young inexperience girl with day time job, many of them are factory girl I have got girl for as low as 300 rmb all night, the original night market at CP near Mulan market area 10 yr ago have better quality girl for 120-150 st.
Fast Eddie 48
So I wanted to bring this up to some of you guys. I think it would work better with Cantonese Speaking brothers here on the board. But I was going up to Swan lake Foot massage, and in the elevator or front desk, I tend to see a lot of Local CP girls. When I say local, I mean local, cantonese speaking, from Chang Ping, born and raised in Changping girls. Most of the local CP girls are not all that attractive to me. But recently, I've seen some good looking ones-young and obviously well off because of CP's development these days. I guess it would hard to pick up on these local girls, since my Cantonese is not all that great.
But wondering if any HK guys or Cantonese speaking guys or heck even any overseas Asian or Non asian have gotten some luck with these girls. I mean there are stories of these ladies going to New Century to find ducks and such, since their husband is out there finding a bunch of WG on a regular basis. But even the single local ladies need to find some action themselves right?
I progressively see local CP girls looking better- more fashionable and becoming more stylish. I had almost mistaken the cute girl in the elevator, who was a local CP girl, for a WG. But once she spoke in their local dialect- cantonese with a local accent, you could tell they were local gals. Not bad looking either.
AsnDragon
Freepeaks,
I did recall you texting me a couple of months ago to go out to some bar, but you said you were going to Gonguan 18 and not Mango. I think Dan Hawaii was with you that one time. I was feeling a bit sick that night and was just resting up at the hotel. But I'm sure that it was not Mango, Because as I recall on my previous trip Mango was still under renovation, it hadn't opened until about a month ago.
But I agree with you, Cali Red is just too loud. I can't even hear myself think when I'm inside there. I guess when you get to be my age, you can't take loud music atmosphere anymore. You must have had a hell of a time with your Rock Star. But doesn't she have to work at Walter?Mango was open then, but since it looked high end and snobby I didn't go. It isn't really either same as 18. Yes probably texted you about going to 18 I like.
That place, good dance stage, good DJs (better than Mango / Red) and hot dancers. Now that would be a mission.
CaliRed is crazy loud due to the way they designed the place, but if you don't feel like speaking and just want to drink and dance it is good for.
A few hours. Lots of off duty WGs so lots to look at, and perhaps find you a freebie.
Rockstar has been promoted to asst mommie at Eurasia. Likely followed her mommie friend there and she certainly can be fierce enough to keep the girls in line.
Notified me of that when she requested her xiaofei. LOL.
I miss the Night Market. I'm sure many other brothers who have been there miss it just as much. This venue picks up where all the other places have closed. The graveyard shift of WG. What can be any better for brothers who have sleepless nights?
AsnDragonOh the Night Market. That street was magical, yes knowing that was a fall back to the KTV pick of the night, you could always bail and get a wide awake and willing night market girl. They were often the most fun and willing in bed. Rarely a bad attitude and usually in general very fun girls. Not the same in a hotel, it was fun to walk.
The street and see them all sitting outside waiting. Occasionally a car would come down the road and all the girls would swarm the car. Few times there was raid warnings and you would see everyone scramble like roaches in the sunlight. I remember one girl there who had a perfect rack and athletic body, tons of fun repeated her a few times. I think next trip I'm going to pick from the bbs cause last time the girls there were genuinely more fun and attentive than KTV girls. It really isn't about the discount, but the GFE.
KTV girls you are right have become very jaded. Actually you can sit some for 10k now as the economy is bad, but yes 5k was enough a few years ago. Top notch are demanding 20k or more and still sneak out.
One reason I think Mayflower is good, is because you still have alot of 1/2 bbs girls there on busy nights, still not jaded not money grubbing just yet. Newbies in MF tend to be fun, fuhao is getting more of these types because they have to pull numbers. Places like YH and EA have pulled alot of the top talent because of higher fees, it is so fun to go to a bbs and find a diamond in the rough. Although rarely do you find a bbs girl that blows even half decent though.
KTV girls you are right have become very jaded. Actually you can sit some for 10k now as the economy is bad, but yes 5k was enough a few years ago. Top notch are demanding 20k or more and still sneak out.As of close of today's exchange: 20000 Chinese Yuan = 3151. 2 US Dollar.
I hope you are off by one decimal place. Or am I missing something?
Jammin2,
What Freepeaks meant was, the cost to sponsor a girl for one month. The nicer looking girls are asking for 20, 000 RMB per month. Some girls are demanding even more. But it's only going to get higher and higher as China's standard of living keep rising.
AsnDragon.
As of close of today's exchange: 20000 Chinese Yuan = 3151. 2 US Dollar.
I hope you are off by one decimal place. Or am I missing something?
Freepeaks,
Actually most of the BBS talent I got last few times were not bad. They actually gave pretty decent BJ. The only thing that is a major turnoff is that they prepare the tissue paper by the side of the bed and bring over a glass of water as well as the trash bin. It's become so much more mechanical than it use to be. But overall, I think that the BBS girl's service is not bad. The one issue I have been getting form BBS girls and even KTV girls is, I am having a high percentage of Stinky Poo Vaginas. The ones that permeate throughout the room with odors of fish, crab and squid and a bit of sour milk smell. When I take a sniff of that odor, I immediately cannot continue with the session. It almost makes me want to go to the bathroom and throw up.
Now many brothers have told me that it's of three things.
1. They do a lot of bareback and lots of guys cum inside of them and there's a transfer of bacteria that grows inside of them which emit that odor.
2. They don't do a good job at washing their vagina and their diet contributes to their odor.
3. Some argue that when a girl is really turned on, they emit this smelly odor form their vagina.
Now I'm not expert on Vaginas, but all I have to say is that no smell= turn on, and bad smell= softening of my little brother.
Rockstar is at Eurasia now? Wow, I guess everyone is moving up the ladder these days! But then again, if you had the opportunity to improve, wouldn't you take the opportunity?
As a Mommie assistant, I not sure how it works, but I always had the impression that they can be taken out too with a higher fee. But I thought that Rockstar was being sponsored by some Rich guy, why does she find the need to even work?
AsnDragon.
Oh the Night Market. That street was magical, yes knowing that was a fall back to the KTV pick of the night, you could always bail and get a wide awake and willing night market girl. They were often the most fun and willing in bed. Rarely a bad attitude and usually in general very fun girls. Not the same in a hotel, it was fun to walk.
The street and see them all sitting outside waiting. Occasionally a car would come down the road and all the girls would swarm the car. Few times there was raid warnings and you would see everyone scramble like roaches in the sunlight. I remember one girl there who had a perfect rack and athletic body, tons of fun repeated her a few times. I think next trip I'm going to pick from the bbs cause last time the girls there were genuinely more fun and attentive than KTV girls. It really isn't about the discount, but the GFE.
KTV girls you are right have become very jaded. Actually you can sit some for 10k now as the economy is bad, but yes 5k was enough a few years ago. Top notch are demanding 20k or more and still sneak out.
One reason I think Mayflower is good, is because you still have alot of 1/2 bbs girls there on busy nights, still not jaded not money grubbing just yet. Newbies in MF tend to be fun, fuhao is getting more of these types because they have to pull numbers. Places like YH and EA have pulled alot of the top talent because of higher fees, it is so fun to go to a bbs and find a diamond in the rough. Although rarely do you find a bbs girl that blows even half decent though.
Cocaine Kid
11-08-11, 13:05
Hi guys, I've never been to CP and was wondering if anyone of you guys will be.
Nice enough to meet me up to show me around since I'll be there alone on 1st January.
I've gotten enough info from this forum to move around in CP but feel kinda.
Lonely doing it alone, besides it's always more fun to do it in a group.
I'm a middle age Chinese guy from South East Asia who also reads and writes in
Simple Chinese. It'll be nice if one of you would response to this mail. Thanks
SE Asia Joe
11-08-11, 13:59
First there was the Mayflower, then the EuroAsia, then the YiHao all trying to outdo each other and the other venues.
Tonight, looking for something a bit nicer to eat at, I wandered in to the Capital Club (where the old PP KTV was at) and walked into Chang Ping really coming of age; Understated luxury and elegant opulence quite like Private clubs in Hong Kong, Shanghai and Beijing.
Deep soft couches and arm chairs in muted colours, spaced out to give maximum privacy in between tables and well presented Chinese, Japanese and Western food. Served impeccably by staff well trained to give immediate but unobstrusive attention. Just like in any of the finest restaurants in any World city!
The only fly in the ointment is of course the presence of a couple Nouveau Riche Local famlies and their "One child Policy" brat in tow. And oh yeah, the wife wearing her LV top over polka dot pants! But otherwise, a VERY nice place to go and have a very good meal. And not all that expensive considering.
And BTW. You KNOW the food is going to be to our taste as one of the partners is the owner of Kum Ho, the HK style Ja Chaan Teng chain, and who treated us to some really yummy almond tea for dessert.
But to me, all this spells the beginning of the end of the cheap delights of Chang Ping! Oh well!
SEAJ
Freepeaks,
Actually most of the BBS talent I got last few times were not bad. They actually gave pretty decent BJ. The only thing that is a major turnoff is that they prepare the tissue paper by the side of the bed and bring over a glass of water as well as the trash bin. It's become so much more mechanical than it use to be. But overall, I think that the BBS girl's service is not bad. The one issue I have been getting form BBS girls and even KTV girls is, I am having a high percentage of Stinky Poo Vaginas. The ones that permeate throughout the room with odors of fish, crab and squid and a bit of sour milk smell. When I take a sniff of that odor, I immediately cannot continue with the session. It almost makes me want to go to the bathroom and throw up.
Now many brothers have told me that it's of three things.
1. They do a lot of bareback and lots of guys cum inside of them and there's a transfer of bacteria that grows inside of them which emit that odor.
2. They don't do a good job at washing their vagina and their diet contributes to their odor.
3. Some argue that when a girl is really turned on, they emit this smelly odor form their vagina.
Now I'm not expert on Vaginas, but all I have to say is that no smell= turn on, and bad smell= softening of my little brother.
Rockstar is at Eurasia now? Wow, I guess everyone is moving up the ladder these days! But then again, if you had the opportunity to improve, wouldn't you take the opportunity?
As a Mommie assistant, I not sure how it works, but I always had the impression that they can be taken out too with a higher fee. But I thought that Rockstar was being sponsored by some Rich guy, why does she find the need to even work?
AsnDragon.Smelly pussy in any girl or women or KTV girl or WG or any pussy is totally unacceptable. Its just lazy and they were not taught how to maintain their money maker LOL.
I am visiting one of my ATF next week and this girls coochie is pure honey. I never ever tasted a vigina so sweet. It was actually sweet mmmmmmmmmm good! I can't wait to sample her again and again.
PC out
Dear Cocaine Kid,
PM BSD Dave. He is the to go to Guide in CP. He holds several KTV parties every night and he's good at gathering people together to have fun and party. He can also arrange Hotel, Foot massage, Sauna BBS run, you name it and he does it! So PM him, he'll take good care of you!
AsnDragon.
Hi guys, I've never been to CP and was wondering if anyone of you guys will be.
Nice enough to meet me up to show me around since I'll be there alone on 1st January.
I've gotten enough info from this forum to move around in CP but feel kinda.
Lonely doing it alone, besides it's always more fun to do it in a group.
I'm a middle age Chinese guy from South East Asia who also reads and writes in
Simple Chinese. It'll be nice if one of you would response to this mail. Thanks
SEAJOE,
Well it was only a matter of time that CP started to catch up with the rest of the modernized cities within China. I actually don't mind that better restaurants are opening up in CP. Even the new Boton near Lian Bang Area has the best steak I've tasted in years! I mean that particular Boton Restaurant has these beautiful cut Australian steak cuts that are amazing! It's tastier and juicier than what you would get from leading steakhouses in western countries.
Before I find that I ended up eating the same places every day- DaJia Restaurant, Mito, Man Lian HK Restaurant, Boton. 6 thousand flavor restaurant etc. But now there seems to be more of a variety. I'm not sure if the new places have great food or not. But at least there's more variety to choose from these days compared to 6-7 years ago.
I did happen to try that newly opened second floor coffee place called Mystery Coffee house near Lion Hotel. Their coffee was only ok. The atmosphere was a bit cheesy, but it's got a great view though, allowing you to see all the beautiful girls walking on that main street.
The best Bakery that I've been to so far is the newly opened Bakery, right below Mystery Coffee house called Macys. By far the best bread in CP.
So CP is improving. For the worse or better it's subjective.
WG girl's service and attitude is not as good these days. But I am grateful for the new Footie and KTV venues around town though. Back before there was only Qian Zhu Ge in Lucky hotel, Lion Hotel Footie and Swan Lake Footie. Over the years- Hui Mei, Hui Hua, Virgin, Pozilim, Clipper, two Qian Zhu Footie and Jing Di Li dirty footie have all opened within these few years. Certainly a whole lot of selections to choose from.
Whether the change in CP is good or bad, we all just have to suck it up, because we have to embrace CP for all it is or will be.
AsnDragon.
First there was the Mayflower, then the EuroAsia, then the YiHao all trying to outdo each other and the other venues.
Tonight, looking for something a bit nicer to eat at, I wandered in to the Capital Club (where the old PP KTV was at) and walked into Chang Ping really coming of age; Understated luxury and elegant opulence quite like Private clubs in Hong Kong, Shanghai and Beijing.
Deep soft couches and arm chairs in muted colours, spaced out to give maximum privacy in between tables and well presented Chinese, Japanese and Western food. Served impeccably by staff well trained to give immediate but unobstrusive attention. Just like in any of the finest restaurants in any World city!
The only fly in the ointment is of course the presence of a couple Nouveau Riche Local famlies and their "One child Policy" brat in tow. And oh yeah, the wife wearing her LV top over polka dot pants! But otherwise, a VERY nice place to go and have a very good meal. And not all that expensive considering.
And BTW. You KNOW the food is going to be to our taste as one of the partners is the owner of Kum Ho, the HK style Ja Chaan Teng chain, and who treated us to some really yummy almond tea for dessert.
But to me, all this spells the beginning of the end of the cheap delights of Chang Ping! Oh well!
SEAJ
I have a rant about the second floor footie above Pozilim. I had about 2 hours before my van left for the airport. I decided to try out the new footie on the second floor of Pozilim. This new footie, which is the owner of Legend cafe at Swan Lake Road, decorated their place very nicely on the entrance. I decided to try their footie to relax before I sit on a 2 hour car ride to the airport.
I told them I was in a rush and if they have available masseuse that could accommodate me. She said "yes" as what every mainland China person says, even though she doesn't know the present status of her situation.
I sat down, ordered a drink and didn't have a choice on what fruit I wanted, they just gave me oranges. I didn't drink or eat any of their stuff as I nervous about missing my van ride. 10 mins pass by, and I called a supervisor to come over and tell them that I was in a rush and I needed a massage ASAP since my van leaves in 110 mins, and their footie sessions requires at least 80 mins. She says someone is coming right away. 25 mins pass by and I'm becoming agitated. Agitated about their poor service and also smelling the methanol smell of the ointment they use to massage your feet with that permeates throughout all the rooms. It's strange as this is the only place that uses that kind of item, which smells like Ben-Gay or Tiger Balm. So at this point I got about 85 mins left before my van leaves. I wait another 5 mins longer and nobody comes. I put on my socks and shoes and storm out. I told the supervisor that she should have told me that they were busy because I have to leave now due to a lack of time. (I wasn't about to shorten my session to make it to my Van and pay full price) She kept on telling me to stay. As I proceeded to the star case, they asked the greeter to stop me from leaving. I think that girl was confused and didn't know what to do. I left and they kept calling me to stay and started yelling at me.
I figured that I did not consume any of their beverage or fruit. I waited for more than 30 mins when they told me they had someone on staff that was free to work on me ASAP. So I found that my action was justified. I don't think I will be going back to that place again. I thought that they having a high class atmosphere would mean that their quality in service would be better, but I guess I was wrong.
Anyone else have these similar problems with them?
AsnDragon
Pcpc.
Never tasted anything sweet before like honey. But good for you. You can taste some of my other girls that could add onto your taste buds, such as sour, salty and bitter. Want a shot at it?
AsnDragon.
Smelly pussy in any girl or women or KTV girl or WG or any pussy is totally unacceptable. Its just lazy and they were not taught how to maintain their money maker LOL.
I am visiting one of my ATF next week and this girls coochie is pure honey. I never ever tasted a vigina so sweet. It was actually sweet mmmmmmmmmm good! I can't wait to sample her again and again.
PC out
Mit Fo Lfe
11-09-11, 07:57
Pcpc.
Never tasted anything sweet before like honey. But good for you. You can taste some of my other girls that could add onto your taste buds, such as sour, salty and bitter. Want a shot at it?
AsnDragon.LMAO! It was good seeing you again that night at Yi Hao
Mit Fo Lfe,
Good seeing you again at Yi Hao. The girl that you showed up with, is that your kept / regular girl? She was quite good looking! Great job on your pick! I didn't have much time to talk with you that night as the line up was just starting when we were chatting. Everyone was scrambling to get the best pick from the model category that evening as it was a Saturday.
AsnDragon.
LMAO! It was good seeing you again that night at Yi Hao
Cocaine Kid
11-09-11, 09:49
Thank you so much AsnDragon for the prompt response.
Like I mentioned earlier that I'm really new to tis game.
So please give me a thorough guide to get started.
You said that BSD Dave parties there every nite and.
He's willing to help but please tell me how I can contact him.
Also I'll be travelling to Guangzhou from there and hoping.
That someone can give me some advice as to where one.
Can get good action there as well.
Cocaine Kid,
You would have to pay a subscription fee on ISG to Jackson in order to use the PM function. Once you can use the PM function then you can contact Dave, who's Handle is BSD Dave. Now, I don't work for ISG, but since we all use ISG to connect with each other, its only fair to donate to Jackson's site so you can use their service.
Basically, once you have the PM function, Private Message BSD Dave. He will answer any and all questions for you. He will be your tour guide. From booking hotels, to arranging someone to pick you up at the train station (so you don't get ripped off) to booking hotels, getting all the BBS action, Sauna and KTV. Basically Dave is a one stop shop for you. Once you get connected with him, he can and will show you all of where the action is at CP. I refer you to him because sometimes as a newbie, I don't want you getting yourself into trouble in a new place. For example, there has been kidnappings of Mongers who walked into fake BBS shops to find girls. They were beaten and then robbed of all their money etc. So I don't wish for your first experience to be like that.
I can write on this board where locations are, but words can sometimes be interpreted incorrectly. For example, if I said, turn right into an alley right after a convenient store. On every given strip there's about 6-7 convenient stores, so sometimes it's hard to interpret reports.
As a result, Dave is based in CP and his job is to bring new mongers and old mongers around CP to all of the great venues CP has to offer. So with someone holding your hand, you won't get lost or cheated.
That is my advice to you. Take my word for it! I'm 60 plus year old guy, and I've been mongering for more than half my life already. My sagacious advice is for you to contact BSD Dave, and he will handle the rest of your trip. You will not regret it. Sound advice from an old timer like me. You will thank me later for it, trust me.
AsnDragon.
Thank you so much AsnDragon for the prompt response.
Like I mentioned earlier that I'm really new to tis game.
So please give me a thorough guide to get started.
You said that BSD Dave parties there every nite and.
He's willing to help but please tell me how I can contact him.
Also I'll be travelling to Guangzhou from there and hoping.
That someone can give me some advice as to where one.
Can get good action there as well.
Cocaine Kid,
By the way. If you are walking around CP and you bump into a tall, young, blonde haired. 26 year old Swede, his name is SEAJOE. Say Hello, to him for me will ya? Although he's a bit young, he's got quite some experience when it comes to mongering in CP. He can share some stories and advice with you. You can learn quite a lot from him on how to romance young girls in CP, buy them nokia phones etc. You will usually find him with one to two girls around his arms at all times. I usually hang around him because he attracts so many girls everywhere he goes. I then become him wingman and take his sloppy seconds. Which is coined as "Sloppy Joes." You can't miss him! I mean how many tall good looking blonde haired young guys you see in CP, China anyways?
Happy Mongering.
AsnDragon.
Thank you so much AsnDragon for the prompt response.
Like I mentioned earlier that I'm really new to tis game.
So please give me a thorough guide to get started.
You said that BSD Dave parties there every nite and.
He's willing to help but please tell me how I can contact him.
Also I'll be travelling to Guangzhou from there and hoping.
That someone can give me some advice as to where one.
Can get good action there as well.
Cocaine Kid,
By the way. If you are walking around CP and you bump into a tall, young, blonde haired. 26 year old Swede, his name is SEAJOE. Say Hello, to him for me will ya? Although he's a bit young, he's got quite some experience when it comes to mongering in CP. He can share some stories and advice with you. You can learn quite a lot from him on how to romance young girls in CP, buy them nokia phones etc. You will usually find him with one to two girls around his arms at all times. I usually hang around him because he attracts so many girls everywhere he goes. I then become him wingman and take his sloppy seconds. Which is coined as "Sloppy Joes." You can't miss him! I mean how many tall good looking blonde haired young guys you see in CP, China anyways?
Happy Mongering.
AsnDragon.Okay, now that is funny I don't care WHO you are! AD, I think you've been drinking too much "Chinese wine", with the "bad kind" of alcohol in it! I just did the math on my mongering "experience" and decided I really didn't want to know how many years its' been.
I would agree that BSD is the way to go, even you aren't a newbie. I have been gone for about 4 weeks and hope to be back this weekend for a few days. I must say I miss CP and all that entails!
I wonder what the mongers in ten years will say about the CP we have now."those were the good ole' days'?"
Sky Ryder,
Thanks for the compliment! Yes I have been drinking too much "Chinese Fake Alcohol" recently.
10 years from now, you will see people on this board saying: "Man I can't believe that BBS is charging 400 RMB now? Why did they raise the sitting fee for KTVs to 5/12/15 for the regular girls and 8/20/25 for the model quality girls?"
"Remember when back 10 years ago it was only 200 RMB for a BBS session and girls were only 2/5/8 for regular KTV girls and models were only 5/11/15?"
It's actually pretty easy to gauge how CP will be in the next 10 years. You just look at bigger cities such as Guangzhou then Hangzhou, then Beijing then Shanghai and you can see how expensive girls are demanding in all of these large cities. In the next 10 years CP will follow with the same trend and you can definitely see almost 50% increases on fees across the board. Nobody can stop the mammoth growth of the China Economy right now. After CP reaches Shanghai level pricing, you will see a major shift of the clientele base in CP. It will no longer be the HK regulars guys, or the foreigners coming in from other countries. You will see that most patrons are local Chinese who's wallets have ballooned with crazy amounts of RMB. Foreigners will no longer come to CP once it reaches those levels, because the majority of foreigners couldn't afford it or want to pay those prices.
This movement can be seen in HK for example. Japanese businessmen who thought that Japanese KTVs were too expensive back in the 70's and 80's loved to come to HK because of the abundance of beautiful and cheap WG. After HK's economic boom after the 1970's and 80's and then 90's came it was too expensive to monger in HK. So many guys started going into China- only to the major cities such as Shenzhen, Shanghai and Beijing etc. You could get model quality girls for a couple of hundred RMB for the whole night in the late 1980's to early 1990 in Shanghai. Then Big cities became too expensive and places started to migrate to second tier cities such as Dongguan etc.
It's only a matter of time where people will migrate to inner China, provinces away from the coastal areas to start mongering. But one thing you have to also know is that people in China can only have 1 child. Even though in some rural poor villages people have several children right now, that trend in a few years will stop as it's getting harder and too expensive to raise kids even in far rural villages. So even if you have the money in the future, the question is there's enough supply of young girls left in 10 years.
So before 2021 arrives and we start sighing and start regretting about how we didn't live it up back 10 years ago in the year 2011. Word of advice: Live it up! Nothing good ever lasts for too long!
Enjoy!
AsnDragon.
Okay, now that is funny I don't care WHO you are! AD, I think you've been drinking too much "Chinese wine", with the "bad kind" of alcohol in it! I just did the math on my mongering "experience" and decided I really didn't want to know how many years its' been.
I would agree that BSD is the way to go, even you aren't a newbie. I have been gone for about 4 weeks and hope to be back this weekend for a few days. I must say I miss CP and all that entails!
I wonder what the mongers in ten years will say about the CP we have now."those were the good ole' days'?"
Pcpc.
Never tasted anything sweet before like honey. But good for you. You can taste some of my other girls that could add onto your taste buds, such as sour, salty and bitter. Want a shot at it?
AsnDragon.Dragon,
This girl is special and takes care of her vagina like I ask her too LOL.
Her taste is sweet with no after taste. Haha.
PC out
Now many brothers have told me that it's of three things.
1. They do a lot of bareback and lots of guys cum inside of them and there's a transfer of bacteria that grows inside of them which emit that odor.
2. They don't do a good job at washing their vagina and their diet contributes to their odor.
3. Some argue that when a girl is really turned on, they emit this smelly odor form their vagina.
Now I'm not expert on Vaginas, but all I have to say is that no smell= turn on, and bad smell= softening of my little brother.
Rockstar is at Eurasia now? Wow, I guess everyone is moving up the ladder these days! But then again, if you had the opportunity to improve, wouldn't you take the opportunity?
As a Mommie assistant, I not sure how it works, but I always had the impression that they can be taken out too with a higher fee. But I thought that Rockstar was being sponsored by some Rich guy, why does she find the need to even work?
AsnDragon.Well as for BBS girls, lots of sex in general with lubricants / condoms and if they do bareback leaves an imbalance in the vagina
And can cause yeast / bacterial infections hence the smell. Also the bacteria from your hands fingering them without washing
Isn't that good and all the sex wrecks their vag abililty to fight infection.
I think it is much more rare for a KTV girl to have the smell simply because they are 1/2 a day rather than 4-6 of a BBS girl.
But we all know it happens.
Food? Sure it can effect but I think it is more of the lots of sex combined with hygiene. Also alot will wash out vagina.
With water (shower douche) which further effects the pH imbalance. Another factor is that try to see a bbs girl two days in
A row, and you might find they don't change their underwear. Imagine how bad your junk would smell even with showers if
You didn't change your underwear for 3 days. Ugh.
I think alot of BBS girls are trainable, meaning that you can get them to stop using the tissues and spitting over a day or.
Two if you feel so inclined.
Rockstar is often sponsored then I suppose they tire of her or such. She now has Jesus tattooed on her hip. Don't ask. She is that strange.
Yes I think they can go out with a higher fee, I have a long connection with her also so priveleges
Cocaine Kid,
I then become him wingman and take his sloppy seconds. Which is coined as "Sloppy Joes." You can't miss him! I mean how many tall good looking blonde haired young guys you see in CP, China anyways?
AsnDragon.Sloppy Joes, that is classic.
Member #3454
11-11-11, 11:38
Just finish a sessions at meibao sauna. Meibao sauna has to be one of the top sauna in CP with the level of services they provide. I have done too much Yihao's sauna, Me and Legallad thought we should checked out other venues. Who cares if the rooms and the venues are a bit old. We are here the quality of bitches and the services they provided.
Bros over Wh*res.
One of the feature of the meibao sauna rooms are the switching rooms and the Bros rooms. They have 2 bros rooms (only a fee of 30 rmb extra) and 7 linked rooms. This is where it gets interesting, at any time at all, you can switch the rooms with the B*tch that your buddy picked. Bros rooms are rooms with a glass in the middle with 2 beds and 2 showers. Orgy rooms are a good experience and that adds up a new chapter in the mongering scene in CP.
Legallad is pounding his B*tch so hard I could hear the girl screams next door. Its been going on for 1 hour now its not even funny. Its my second session now and legallad aint finish yet. This get me distracted with all the screaming and moaning. I picked # 225 and legallad picked #05. #225 is tall and slim from hubei. Services is average but I have no complaints. From what I heard. 05 is onl 18 yr old and the pussy is so tight, great breats too, with CIM. This is why I always get jealous from Legallad. He always get the best services.
Shiuh's OUT.
SE Asia Joe
11-14-11, 03:34
I was commenting how Chang Ping seems to be quickly tranforming itself with super-priced "International standard" facilities; well alongside these super-priced places, a few great cheaper options have also emerged, quite a few in that new #8 mall in front of the old Huaren shopping centre.
The cheapest and very good deal is Saizera Ristorante and Cafe, apparently one of those Japanese type Italian restaurants. 9" Pizzas for around RMB 20, spaghetti for around 10, rice dishes mid 10's and the most expensive item being a sizzling platter steak at RMB 28. A self-serve soft drink / coffee bar at RMB 6, all with quick / very efficient service and computerized order taking / billing.
Same mall, a Korean BBQ place for RMB 58 all you can eat as well as a Chinese food cafeteria style restaurant where small-ish dishes are served up for RMB 2 to 12 (a WHOLE steamed fish for RMB12!).
So all's not lost! For on top of these places, there of course still exists the old Roast Goose places (RMB 12 for a great bowl of Roast Goose on noodles) , the clay pot places at also around RMB 12 and of course places like Mito's where the A-B-C afternoon tea set is 2 quite substantial dishes and a drink for RMB 26.
Just thought I'd throw this in as the market seems to be stuck at around + 450! LOL.
SEAJ
SEAJOE,
There seems to be some fairly good options in Number 8 mall. Although Aijisen is not exactly a cheap option, I do enjoy their food once in a while and they are also located on the top of Number 8 mall.
That Cafeteria Chinese style food is taiwanese style food. It reminds me of that other chain seen in Guangzhou and Shenzhen called "blue and white" restaurant, where you can choose these small dishes so you can have more variety than just be stuck with a huge platter of one dish.
I will definitely have to try out the sizzling platter steak. For 28 RMB, I'm questioning if it's actually real beef. LOL. There has been reports in China where people take pork and they add artificial, not to mention toxic additives to make it look and taste like Beef. This scandal has been linked to hundreds of underground criminals.
But I do agree, with prices skyrocketing in CP and with the financial crisis hitting Europe (which I think it only temporarily solved until it implodes later) and the world it's a good idea to tighten the belt when you need to.
After all, we come to CP for the girls, not the food right?
AsnDragon.
I was commenting how Chang Ping seems to be quickly tranforming itself with super-priced "International standard" facilities; well alongside these super-priced places, a few great cheaper options have also emerged, quite a few in that new #8 mall in front of the old Huaren shopping centre.
The cheapest and very good deal is Saizera Ristorante and Cafe, apparently one of those Japanese type Italian restaurants. 9" Pizzas for around RMB 20, spaghetti for around 10, rice dishes mid 10's and the most expensive item being a sizzling platter steak at RMB 28. A self-serve soft drink / coffee bar at RMB 6, all with quick / very efficient service and computerized order taking / billing.
Same mall, a Korean BBQ place for RMB 58 all you can eat as well as a Chinese food cafeteria style restaurant where small-ish dishes are served up for RMB 2 to 12 (a WHOLE steamed fish for RMB12!).
So all's not lost! For on top of these places, there of course still exists the old Roast Goose places (RMB 12 for a great bowl of Roast Goose on noodles) , the clay pot places at also around RMB 12 and of course places like Mito's where the A-B-C afternoon tea set is 2 quite substantial dishes and a drink for RMB 26.
Just thought I'd throw this in as the market seems to be stuck at around + 450! LOL.
SEAJ
Meibao Sauna in my opinion is really top notch for service in CP. I think their service is better than that of Virgin Sauna.
Not to mention that each group of girl has their own specialized routine. For example, some of the girls wearing sailor uniforms have this whole routine where they blindfold you, tie your hands and they basically come and forcefully give you a BBBJ. It's suppose to add onto the whole suspense of the session. Not all of them do that, but I do applaud the management team for being creative. By training certain girls to do different routines, it basically makes customers want to try different girls from different groups hoping for a new tantalizing surprise. I mean when a customer has come so many times and all experience the same routine, they want to experience something new and unique and Meibao is constantly trying to reinvent themselves and add on new type of services.
Just a few weeks ago they had a special wine party. They opened red wine, white wine and champagne for all customers downstairs, instead of that rectangle room on top. Basically they invited all of their VIP customers to come in and enjoy free alcohol on the house to thank them for their patronage. This type of customers service is more aligned with western customer service, which just comes to show that they are improving. I couldn't imagine Virgin Sauna doing any of these types of vents. Not to mention that during the party, all the girls are right in front of you and it's flower street all day that day. So you get to drink your wine and walk around and view all the girls as well.
The one thing I don't like about Meibao is that it's becoming too famous. So famous to the point where people all over China- Beijing, Shanghai and elsewhere fly all the way over to CP just to try out Meibao. There's evidence of this on all of the Chinese Boards where people from all over come to CP's Meibao Sauna like it's some MUST-SEE tourist attraction. So what happens is you end up seeing a whole lot of guys at Meibao, more so than just a few months ago.
But other than that, they still have great girls and they give great service most of the time.
AsnDragon.
Just finish a sessions at meibao sauna. Meibao sauna has to be one of the top sauna in CP with the level of services they provide. I have done too much Yihao's sauna, Me and Legallad thought we should checked out other venues. Who cares if the rooms and the venues are a bit old. We are here the quality of bitches and the services they provided.
Bros over Wh*res.
One of the feature of the meibao sauna rooms are the switching rooms and the Bros rooms. They have 2 bros rooms (only a fee of 30 rmb extra) and 7 linked rooms. This is where it gets interesting, at any time at all, you can switch the rooms with the B*tch that your buddy picked. Bros rooms are rooms with a glass in the middle with 2 beds and 2 showers. Orgy rooms are a good experience and that adds up a new chapter in the mongering scene in CP.
Legallad is pounding his B*tch so hard I could hear the girl screams next door. Its been going on for 1 hour now its not even funny. Its my second session now and legallad aint finish yet. This get me distracted with all the screaming and moaning. I picked # 225 and legallad picked #05. #225 is tall and slim from hubei. Services is average but I have no complaints. From what I heard. 05 is onl 18 yr old and the pussy is so tight, great breats too, with CIM. This is why I always get jealous from Legallad. He always get the best services.
Shiuh's OUT.
Fast Eddie 48
11-14-11, 06:01
SEAJOE,
There seems to be some fairly good options in Number 8 mall. Although Aijisen is not exactly a cheap option, I do enjoy their food once in a while and they are also located on the top of Number 8 mall.
That Cafeteria Chinese style food is taiwanese style food. It reminds me of that other chain seen in Guangzhou and Shenzhen called "blue and white" restaurant, where you can choose these small dishes so you can have more variety than just be stuck with a huge platter of one dish.
I will definitely have to try out the sizzling platter steak. For 28 RMB, I'm questioning if it's actually real beef. LOL. There has been reports in China where people take pork and they add artificial, not to mention toxic additives to make it look and taste like Beef. This scandal has been linked to hundreds of underground criminals.
But I do agree, with prices skyrocketing in CP and with the financial crisis hitting Europe (which I think it only temporarily solved until it implodes later) and the world it's a good idea to tighten the belt when you need to.
After all, we come to CP for the girls, not the food right?
AsnDragon.To Asndragon,
Early this year Jusco a large chain super market in Shenzhen got caught selling pork as beef, they dye the pork with red coloring to make it look like beef and they got fine by the government. So where is this new Mall at I didn, t see it 2 month ago.
Fast Eddie 48
Sardaukar1
11-14-11, 22:41
in china, there are bigger things to worry about than eating beef-like pork. cooking oil for instance. locals go as far as scraping up greese from the gutter (drains and sewers) and artificially converting to cooking oil for consumption.
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/09/13/arrests-made-in-gutter-oil-scandal/
to asndragon,
early this year jusco a large chain super market in shenzhen got caught selling pork as beef, they dye the pork with red coloring to make it look like beef and they got fine by the government. so where is this new mall at i didn, t see it 2 month ago.
fast eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
11-15-11, 04:05
To Asndragon,
Early this year Jusco a large chain super market in Shenzhen got caught selling pork as beef, they dye the pork with red coloring to make it look like beef and they got fine by the government. So where is this new Mall at I didn, t see it 2 month ago.
Fast Eddie 48And even a few stores of Walmart got shut down a few weeks for selling mis-labeled "Organic" foods when they were not.
Market 8, which is the proper English name for this mall, is in front of the old Huaren shopping centre and sort of below the old (and now closed down) revolving restaurant.
The next building headed towards ZhongYuan Road after you passed Boton. You can't miss it.
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
11-15-11, 04:42
And even a few stores of Walmart got shut down a few weeks for selling mis-labeled "Organic" foods when they were not.
Market 8, which is the proper English name for this mall, is in front of the old Huaren shopping centre and sort of below the old (and now closed down) revolving restaurant.
The next building headed towards ZhongYuan Road after you passed Boton. You can't miss it.
SEAJTo SEAJ.
Resturant is a tough business in CP on the weekday many don't survive if they offer discount like that, if they survive after 6 month maybe they be around for a while.
Fast Eddie 48
sardaukar,
i agree that gutter cooking oil is very bad. but the pork processing it into beef is also very worrisome as well. the additive that they add is toxic. it can cause deformities in offspring and lead to cancer.
so all is equally troublesome in my book. but all you can really do is close one eye i suppose and try to eat healthy like consume more fruit. but even watermelons are exploding due to farmers using too much nutrient fertilizers on their watermelon.
oh well, we come to china not for the food right?
asndragon.
in china, there are bigger things to worry about than eating beef-like pork. cooking oil for instance. locals go as far as scraping up greese from the gutter (drains and sewers) and artificially converting to cooking oil for consumption.
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/09/13/arrests-made-in-gutter-oil-scandal/
I arrived in CP a few days ago (this is my third trip) and as usual started off the first 3 days parting with BSD and his crew at YiHao, FuHao then Mayflower. I have not noticed any change in the quality and number of girls but prices have certainly gone up, it's no longer the case that short means 2-5-8 though I'm not complaining as the little cutie FuHao 3-6-9 I got was a bundle of fun! The Mayflower party was quite awesome as we had 8 bros. 4 from Canada who arrived and stayed just for that day, they went nuts and got around 10 girls between them! And for the first time, I heard a KTV girl sing lady gaga and Chris Brown songs, I was amazed! She didn't know what the words meant but memorised everything, and she was quite good at it!
Anyway, the last couple of days I've been visiting the BBS as I am spoiled for choice at the Swan Lake Hotel. The quality and quantity this time around is friggin amazing. There are at least 15-20 girls in each BBS and and fact, there are always 3-4 that I have to agonise over in terms of choosing at any one BBS. The mummy are always pushy as usual but I have never visited more than one BBS at a time before I have my pick. As I'm here for another few days, I may even bring a BBS girl (tried and tested) to one of BSD's KTV parties coming up, it is always fun with girls you know will give you good service at the end of the night as usually KTV picks are a hit and miss sort of trial, you just never know until you are back at the hotel as to how good a service you will get.
I thought I may also share a few pics as I brought my SLR to CP this time around and I didn't take it out till yesterday at the request of a BBS girl. Haha. I took some artistic shots all in the confines of the Swan Lake hotel room. I've glammed up the shots in photoshop and the girls just love it! The shots were taken in the bathroom and in front of the window curtains next to the lamp desk.
Enjoy! .
Rompz,
From the looks of it, it appears you either stayed at the 7th or 8th floor at the B building. Great pics, very artistic, especially the one next to the curtains. BBS quality has certainly gone up in quality as I have mentioned before. I don't know how or why it's so good recently. My thinking is that this line of work, where it was taboo and looked down upon a decade ago, is really becoming no different than a part time summer job to girls born after 1990 generation. I think girls these days in China are more open about sex. Being a WG to girls these YOUNG girls these days in China seems like nothing more than trying a hit of Marijuana or something. It really doesn't faze them at all.
You can see the recent news in Shanghai in regards to 14 year old girls selling themselves as a WG to just try to earn some extra spending cash.
I had a girl who came with a friend to work at the Swan Lake BBS, and when I asked how come she's working here. She said, it sounded exciting and lots of fun and wanted to try it out with her friend. She said "you got to try at least one thing once in life right?" Wow. China has certainly changed. 8 years ago, girls would feel not too comfortable working in this line of industry only if they "were forced to by BF or Financial needs" Girls these days seem to just not care so much about it anymore. Slowly. There's a shift in CP. For better or worse, nobody is sure. But Enjoy it while it lasts.
AsnDragon.
I arrived in CP a few days ago (this is my third trip) and as usual started off the first 3 days parting with BSD and his crew at YiHao, FuHao then Mayflower. I have not noticed any change in the quality and number of girls but prices have certainly gone up, it's no longer the case that short means 2-5-8 though I'm not complaining as the little cutie FuHao 3-6-9 I got was a bundle of fun! The Mayflower party was quite awesome as we had 8 bros. 4 from Canada who arrived and stayed just for that day, they went nuts and got around 10 girls between them! And for the first time, I heard a KTV girl sing lady gaga and Chris Brown songs, I was amazed! She didn't know what the words meant but memorised everything, and she was quite good at it!
Anyway, the last couple of days I've been visiting the BBS as I am spoiled for choice at the Swan Lake Hotel. The quality and quantity this time around is friggin amazing. There are at least 15-20 girls in each BBS and and fact, there are always 3-4 that I have to agonise over in terms of choosing at any one BBS. The mummy are always pushy as usual but I have never visited more than one BBS at a time before I have my pick. As I'm here for another few days, I may even bring a BBS girl (tried and tested) to one of BSD's KTV parties coming up, it is always fun with girls you know will give you good service at the end of the night as usually KTV picks are a hit and miss sort of trial, you just never know until you are back at the hotel as to how good a service you will get.
I thought I may also share a few pics as I brought my SLR to CP this time around and I didn't take it out till yesterday at the request of a BBS girl. Haha. I took some artistic shots all in the confines of the Swan Lake hotel room. I've glammed up the shots in photoshop and the girls just love it! The shots were taken in the bathroom and in front of the window curtains next to the lamp desk.
Enjoy! .
SouthBank388
11-15-11, 22:47
Rompz. We met at Yihao. I am the other OZ guy that day. I dropped you an email. Call me when you get back so that we can plan for next trip.
Spent almost 9 days in Chang Ping this trip. Spent majority of the time with BSD. BSD did not disappoint. He is great and highly reconmmended. Met some good friends and planning with them now for next trip. The service he provides is more personalised than that of the other agent I used this trip.
SB388.
I arrived in CP a few days ago (this is my third trip) and as usual started off the first 3 days parting with BSD and his crew at YiHao, FuHao then Mayflower. I have not noticed any change in the quality and number of girls but prices have certainly gone up, it's no longer the case that short means 2-5-8 though I'm not complaining as the little cutie FuHao 3-6-9 I got was a bundle of fun! The Mayflower party was quite awesome as we had 8 bros. 4 from Canada who arrived and stayed just for that day, they went nuts and got around 10 girls between them! And for the first time, I heard a KTV girl sing lady gaga and Chris Brown songs, I was amazed! She didn't know what the words meant but memorised everything, and she was quite good at it!
Anyway, the last couple of days I've been visiting the BBS as I am spoiled for choice at the Swan Lake Hotel. The quality and quantity this time around is friggin amazing. There are at least 15-20 girls in each BBS and and fact, there are always 3-4 that I have to agonise over in terms of choosing at any one BBS. The mummy are always pushy as usual but I have never visited more than one BBS at a time before I have my pick. As I'm here for another few days, I may even bring a BBS girl (tried and tested) to one of BSD's KTV parties coming up, it is always fun with girls you know will give you good service at the end of the night as usually KTV picks are a hit and miss sort of trial, you just never know until you are back at the hotel as to how good a service you will get.
I thought I may also share a few pics as I brought my SLR to CP this time around and I didn't take it out till yesterday at the request of a BBS girl. Haha. I took some artistic shots all in the confines of the Swan Lake hotel room. I've glammed up the shots in photoshop and the girls just love it! The shots were taken in the bathroom and in front of the window curtains next to the lamp desk.
Enjoy! .
The sorry state of, ahem, the goods whilst "mongering" in Sex Prison, USA. Which comes with a big, big risk at that!
http://triblocal.com/villa-park/2011/11/15/two-charged-with-prostitution-at-villa-park-spa/
Haha. Already planning the next trip hey? I must say it is like that when you first arrive back home and to reality once again!
Yeah, without BSD there would be no KTV parties as even though I can get around CP, you just can't go to KTVs when you are by yourself. 4 people at least is required for a good party. Good to see BSD's business booming as well, he had his assistant Allen come along the other day, a very nice and polite chap who can speak good English.
Anyway, I know you only tried KTVs and saunas this time around but you should give BBS a go, there are some great gems to be found there! .
Rompz. We met at Yihao. I am the other OZ guy that day. I dropped you an email. Call me when you get back so that we can plan for next trip.
Spent almost 9 days in Chang Ping this trip. Spent majority of the time with BSD. BSD did not disappoint. He is great and highly reconmmended. Met some good friends and planning with them now for next trip. The service he provides is more personalised than that of the other agent I used this trip.
SB388.
Thanks ASNDragon.
I am amazed you can tell which floor of the Swan Lake I am staying at by looking at the curtains only. Haha. You are right up there in terms of mongering experience with SEJoe and Santa etc.
I agree with your views on the sort of girls that work here, you would think that they would be really depressed or something doing this line of work here for the rate of pay but they generally seem happy. I guess it is just the way society is down here, the alternative for these girls would be having a dead end boring job in retail or in the restaurants working for peanuts. So why not come out and have some fun and earn the extra money if they can, the working girls in BBS also seem to work whenever they want and come and go as they please. Actually to me, they are just the lazy ones, not necessary smart as they waste away their money as you say. Only a few that I've spoken to seem to have some sort of plan to save up and start a business (almost always plans to start a make up store as that is what they know from doing this line of work) when they have enough money.
Anyway, will take your advice and enjoy it while I can! The cheap labour is not going to last forever and when that is gone, you can bet your wallet the prices here will go up again as demand and supply shifts again!
Rompz,
From the looks of it, it appears you either stayed at the 7th or 8th floor at the B building. Great pics, very artistic, especially the one next to the curtains. BBS quality has certainly gone up in quality as I have mentioned before. I don't know how or why it's so good recently. My thinking is that this line of work, where it was taboo and looked down upon a decade ago, is really becoming no different than a part time summer job to girls born after 1990 generation. I think girls these days in China are more open about sex. Being a WG to girls these YOUNG girls these days in China seems like nothing more than trying a hit of Marijuana or something. It really doesn't faze them at all.
AsnDragon.
Should mention I did my 3rd short trip to CP last Wednesday through Friday. I stayed at the Peninsula. Didn't due the KTV routine, just the swan lake road BBS. Both Wed and Thur around 8PM their were about 10 available. Friday around 6 I went in and surprised to see 26 girls. Mamasan was very excited, had a lot of merchandise to move. The asking price had gone up from a year ago from 200 total plus tip to 250 total, and some of the girls asked for 200 for their cut.
I don't think I mentioned that in my 2010 trip I did use Big swingin Dave, who did a fine job which I much appreciated. He hooked me up with both hotel reservations and a KTV party, so I would also recommend him.
SouthBank388
11-17-11, 00:34
Ai Romp; Indeed life after Chang Ping is hard. So mundane. Planning for mid-end Feb now. You game to come along?
Yes next trip would try the BBS.
SB388
Haha. Already planning the next trip hey? I must say it is like that when you first arrive back home and to reality once again!
Yeah, without BSD there would be no KTV parties as even though I can get around CP, you just can't go to KTVs when you are by yourself. 4 people at least is required for a good party. Good to see BSD's business booming as well, he had his assistant Allen come along the other day, a very nice and polite chap who can speak good English.
Anyway, I know you only tried KTVs and saunas this time around but you should give BBS a go, there are some great gems to be found there! .
Hey Southbank.
Wow, next Feb is just 3 months away, I thought you come to CP 1-2 a year only! Haha.
It may be hard for me to come back so early but we'll see. CNY 2012 is in late January so you probably should think about late Feb. Be prepared though as it is cold during that time, I found out about it when I arrived early this year to party with only shorts, t-shirts and a pair of sandals this year. First thing I did when I arrived was go shopping with BSD for a pair of jeans. Haha. Also, it will generally be pretty packed in CP as punters return after the CNY so be prepared to compete for the girls at the KTVs as there will be a big sausage fest no doubt!
Ai Romp; Indeed life after Chang Ping is hard. So mundane. Planning for mid-end Feb now. You game to come along?
Yes next trip would try the BBS.
SB388
Parnelli, I don't think I will ever get bored with BBS. .
Usually with BBS girls, I will go just before dinner time and if they are good, I will just take them out to dinner afterwards and keep them for the night. When you are here for more than a week, some GFE is always a good thing. The other day, the mommy actually asked if I could ask for a receipt after the meal as she knew I was taking the girl out to dinner and give it to her as she can make a claim or something on it. I didn't get the exact details but I think it is a tax thing that they are able to claim such receipts for expenses.
You'll also find in BBS that mommies will push particular girls to you and get them to come over even if you are not that interested. They will only promote the girls within their own group and if you happen to pick a girl that belongs to another mommy's group, they are not all that excited but they do get a cut as well if you make the choice. I'm told by one of the girls that unless they get picked by a customer brought in by their own mommy, that they have to give another 20Y out of their cut in any other circumstances if they get picked (ie: by a customer who was brought in by another mommy)!
Should mention I did my 3rd short trip to CP last Wednesday through Friday. I stayed at the Peninsula. Didn't due the KTV routine, just the swan lake road BBS. Both Wed and Thur around 8PM their were about 10 available. Friday around 6 I went in and surprised to see 26 girls. Mamasan was very excited, had a lot of merchandise to move. The asking price had gone up from a year ago from 200 total plus tip to 250 total, and some of the girls asked for 200 for their cut.
I don't think I mentioned that in my 2010 trip I did use Big swingin Dave, who did a fine job which I much appreciated. He hooked me up with both hotel reservations and a KTV party, so I would also recommend him.
I'm told by one of the girls that unless they get picked by a customer brought in by their own mommy, that they have to give another 20Y out of their cut in any other circumstances if they get picked (ie: by a customer who was brought in by another mommy)!That is the first time I have heard that, I thought they other mommie got a cut 20/80 or 50/50 on the 100 for the main mommy. I agree the BBS has had some fun girls recently, perhaps the KTVs aren't accepting applications anymore, but I do think the stricter rules and fines of the KTV (snack fine, show up on time fine, no using cell phone,) maybe have restocked the BBS for lazier part timers.
I heard mayflower has a phone ban now because one of the bosses had a party with his friends and some girl was texting all night. After being annoyed and embarassed by that he banned phone use there (for the better). So no yihao and mayflower both have bans, fuhao also better with girls not using phones cause that was getting annoying.
That is the first time I have heard that, I thought they other mommie got a cut 20/80 or 50/50 on the 100 for the main mommy. I agree the BBS has had some fun girls recently, perhaps the KTVs aren't accepting applications anymore, but I do think the stricter rules and fines of the KTV (snack fine, show up on time fine, no using cell phone,) maybe have restocked the BBS for lazier part timers.
I heard mayflower has a phone ban now because one of the bosses had a party with his friends and some girl was texting all night. After being annoyed and embarassed by that he banned phone use there (for the better). So no yihao and mayflower both have bans, fuhao also better with girls not using phones cause that was getting annoying.I think it is the Mayflower that the DJ's actually take the phones away from the girls as they are sat, and give them back when they leave. I agree that I really like this rule. I can't remember which KTV it was recently, but I picked a girl and within 5 mins she was on her phone, sending messages and talking. She actually got up and left the room for a while. This all happened within 15 mins of us getting in the room. I told the DJ not to let her back in the room and I wasn't paying. Her mommy came in shortly and asked what was the problem and it was explained to her. She said the girl was sorry, I said so was I, but I wasn't interested any longer and she could see if she could find another customer.
I usually allow it one time, if they ask if it is okay or some kind of emergency, but this one really got under my skin. I appreciate not having to compete with the electronics for attention, especially if I am paying!
California8
11-18-11, 01:29
I think it is the Mayflower that the DJ's actually take the phones away from the girls as they are sat, and give them back when they leave. I agree that I really like this rule. I can't remember which KTV it was recently, but I picked a girl and within 5 mins she was on her phone, sending messages and talking. She actually got up and left the room for a while. This all happened within 15 mins of us getting in the room. I told the DJ not to let her back in the room and I wasn't paying. Her mommy came in shortly and asked what was the problem and it was explained to her. She said the girl was sorry, I said so was I, but I wasn't interested any longer and she could see if she could find another customer.
I usually allow it one time, if they ask if it is okay or some kind of emergency, but this one really got under my skin. I appreciate not having to compete with the electronics for attention, especially if I am paying!SR: I know when I partied with you at YiHao at a BSD gathering, remember the civilian couple was there and you picked that stunner from Sichuan a month ago, the mommies took away the cell phones and locked them in a box on the wall. Only place I have seen this.
Cal8
Parnelli, I don't think I will ever get bored with BBS. .
Usually with BBS girls, I will go just before dinner time and if they are good, I will just take them out to dinner afterwards and keep them for the night. When you are here for more than a week, some GFE is always a good thing. The other day, the mommy actually asked if I could ask for a receipt after the meal as she knew I was taking the girl out to dinner and give it to her as she can make a claim or something on it. I didn't get the exact details but I think it is a tax thing that they are able to claim such receipts for expenses.
You'll also find in BBS that mommies will push particular girls to you and get them to come over even if you are not that interested. They will only promote the girls within their own group and if you happen to pick a girl that belongs to another mommy's group, they are not all that excited but they do get a cut as well if you make the choice. I'm told by one of the girls that unless they get picked by a customer brought in by their own mommy, that they have to give another 20Y out of their cut in any other circumstances if they get picked (ie: by a customer who was brought in by another mommy)!I always wondered why mommies pushed some girls. I assumed it was less attractive girls who were seldom selected and had no income. Your answer is probably correct.
SouthBank388
11-18-11, 06:35
How much do one pay for a BBS to go overnight? Or if you want to keep for a day? Same rates as KTV girls?
I always wondered why mommies pushed some girls. I assumed it was less attractive girls who were seldom selected and had no income. Your answer is probably correct.
SR: I know when I partied with you at Yi Hao at a BSD gathering, remember the civilian couple was there and you picked that stunner from Sichuan a month ago, the mommies took away the cell phones and locked them in a box on the wall. Only place I have seen this.Yi Hao KTV is the only one that is really serious about enforcing the "Mobile Phone Ban" rule for the girls. The rest of the KTVs are following only because they see Yi Hao KTV's business is good and try to copy cat this gimmick. They hardly enforce the "Mobile Ban" rule. It's only for show. If they're really serious about it then put up the damn Mobile Phone Box on the wall inside every KTV room. The girls will get around this by stuffing the mobile phone in the bra (will use while in the toilet) or just leave it in their locker (will use it when they go to change to civilian clothes).
On the surface the Mobile Phone Box looks good but only 50% effective. But it's better than no Mobile Phone Box at all. Then it's only 10% effective.
SR: I know when I partied with you at YiHao at a BSD gathering, remember the civilian couple was there and you picked that stunner from Sichuan a month ago, the mommies took away the cell phones and locked them in a box on the wall. Only place I have seen this.
Cal8Yep I remember! WOW I remember!
That stunner turned out to be a real treat! I would have loved to stayed to see the rest of the party with the civilian couple, but was very happy to spend sometime with the girl I chose. That was only the second time I have ever chosen a model. The cell phone policy at YiHao is something I wish all the KTV's would employ at some level for sure. I look forward to your next visit to the land of the SOP!
California8
11-18-11, 15:48
Yep I remember! WOW I remember!
That stunner turned out to be a real treat! I would have loved to stayed to see the rest of the party with the civilian couple, but was very happy to spend sometime with the girl I chose. That was only the second time I have ever chosen a model. The cell phone policy at YiHao is something I wish all the KTV's would employ at some level for sure. I look forward to your next visit to the land of the SOP!Actually I have just arrived a few hours ago in CP. On my way out of China, I was planning to stop over in Macau but the Grand Prix is this weekend and I was told that it would be really crowded and the saunas packed so I changed plans for a stopover here before I head across the pacific. I think BSD said I will miss you this time.
Actually I have just arrived a few hours ago in CP. On my way out of China, I was planning to stop over in Macau but the Grand Prix is this weekend and I was told that it would be really crowded and the saunas packed so I changed plans for a stopover here before I head across the pacific. I think BSD said I will miss you this time.Yep I'll miss you this time in CP. This whole working thing to try and support my "habit" is getting old, but necessary! Have a great time, and I look forward to your next visit!
I have a rant about the second floor footie above Pozilim. I had about 2 hours before my van left for the airport. I decided to try out the new footie on the second floor of Pozilim. This new footie, which is the owner of Legend cafe at Swan Lake Road, decorated their place very nicely on the entrance. I decided to try their footie to relax before I sit on a 2 hour car ride to the airport.
I told them I was in a rush and if they have available masseuse that could accommodate me. She said "yes" as what every mainland China person says, even though she doesn't know the present status of her situation.
I sat down, ordered a drink and didn't have a choice on what fruit I wanted, they just gave me oranges. I didn't drink or eat any of their stuff as I nervous about missing my van ride. 10 mins pass by, and I called a supervisor to come over and tell them that I was in a rush and I needed a massage ASAP since my van leaves in 110 mins, and their footie sessions requires at least 80 mins. She says someone is coming right away. 25 mins pass by and I'm becoming agitated. Agitated about their poor service and also smelling the methanol smell of the ointment they use to massage your feet with that permeates throughout all the rooms. It's strange as this is the only place that uses that kind of item, which smells like Ben-Gay or Tiger Balm. So at this point I got about 85 mins left before my van leaves. I wait another 5 mins longer and nobody comes. I put on my socks and shoes and storm out. I told the supervisor that she should have told me that they were busy because I have to leave now due to a lack of time. (I wasn't about to shorten my session to make it to my Van and pay full price) She kept on telling me to stay. As I proceeded to the star case, they asked the greeter to stop me from leaving. I think that girl was confused and didn't know what to do. I left and they kept calling me to stay and started yelling at me.
I figured that I did not consume any of their beverage or fruit. I waited for more than 30 mins when they told me they had someone on staff that was free to work on me ASAP. So I found that my action was justified. I don't think I will be going back to that place again. I thought that they having a high class atmosphere would mean that their quality in service would be better, but I guess I was wrong.
Anyone else have these similar problems with them?
AsnDragonI've actually become a regular there since several months ago, only had to wait once because they were super busy that day. Usually the masseuse gets into the room within 2 minutes after I order my drink. I like the place. Nice atmosphere, courteous staff, good free food with massage, and the massage is pretty good too. Shoulders, foot, head, arms, thighs, they'll even massage your back if you want although I don't like laying face down on a reclined chair. I head downstairs for the back massage. About the food, menu has english and pictures, which is great. However, they are redoing their kitchen right now so choices are limited. Still. 95rmb for more than 2hrs of relaxation, usually, heheh sry asndragon, it's not a bad place to kill time during the day. I forget the price for 80 minutes. 50 or 55 probably. Never did a short session there. Pozolim does footies as well if you prefer to just go there. Thing is, I've had a lot of experiences of having to wait at Pozolim. Even if you call ahead and make an appointment you can still wait an hour when you get there on time. BTW, were you at Pozolim tonight asndragon? Never met you but from your posts I know your an older Chinese gentleman that speaks fluent english. Saw one today. How many can there be right? I'm Chinese american and I know maybe 3.
Had an awesome night yesterday at the Amazon that was organised by BSD. We had 7 bros and if you've been to the Amazon, you'll know their speciality is having naked girls (ie: girls who strip fully naked at the end in a crazy dancing session in the KTV room. We had overall 12 girls in the room (all naked girls) and by the end of the night, I had vomited twice in the bathroom due to excessive drinking (was playing the dice game with 3 girls and got my arse kicked) and during the naked dance session, I was stripped completely naked by a gang of girls (even my socks were off) and I wasn't the only victim as 2 other bros was also gang stripped butt naked and got into the spirit of naked dancing!
In terms of selection, you won't find as many girls here as you would Mayflower or Fuhao but hey, there is something special about seeing all the girls naked at the KTV that just makes the whole experience such a blast! The thing with selection here is that you have to get to the flower early due to the limited quantity of girls and when they come out you have to act fast to grab the one you like. Unlike Mayflower or Fuhao where the selection gets replenished every now and then, you can tell that at the Amazon, girls just dwindle down in numbers and after about 20 minutes, the whole flower street was significantly reduced. Most of the girls wore a yellow tag which means they do the naked stripping while red tags mean they don't go out but still strip and anything else is just a normal girl.
The rooms and song selection compared to the other KTVs are second rate as the Amazon has been around for a while (it was the first KTV to open in CP I hear) but to me, the unique offering of Amazon will keep me going back without any complaints! We also played a game where BSD got 100 from each bro so we had a 700 pot that can be won by a girl, all they had to do was line up in the KTV and strip as fast as they can, the first to strip completely naked and hand all her clothes to BSD wins the pot! You should have seen them go, I think the eventual winner had her clothes off in like under 10 seconds with the others not far behind, that one must have had a lot of practice! Haha.
Overall, another excellent party organised by BSD! I think Fuhao is on the menu tonight which will most likely be my last party in CP this year before I head off home so better make the most of it! The barometer of a good party for me now is getting completely pissed, vomit once or twice and get gang stripped naked at the end of the night by a bunch of girls!
Speaking of massages, anyone know a place to get massage and HJ in CP? Looking for a change of pace but don't want to take a trip to shenzhen just for that.
Speaking of massages, anyone know a place to get massage and HJ in CP? Looking for a change of pace but don't want to take a trip to shenzhen just for that.Silvery Holiday Spa.
Volcano Massage (with happy ending) : ¥298/100 Minutes | ¥138 / Additional 50 Minutes
SE Asia Joe
11-19-11, 18:09
Before I forget, I just wanted to say a great big Hi to George. And apologize for catching you off guard.
Anyway was at the Hui Mei KTV just now.
AGES since I've been there but the place really has not changed all these years.
Terrible song selection, older rooms, and worse of all, the gals are still all sub-par!
But they now got the nerve to dare to charge 2-6-9 and 3-7-10 for the girls!
How do these places justify this kind of charges? But then again, the girls themselves told me that if they didn't up the rates, they wouldn't have come over to work there.
So what I was worried about has actually come true; that the competiton for girls amongst the KTV operators is now forcing them to up the girl rates across the board.
We really need the European Union to crumble. Then we'll see if ANY of these KTV's is going to be able to keep their doors open!
LOL.
SEAJ
California8
11-20-11, 02:12
I reported on this BBS on my last trip. I got in later from HK so too late for KTV and BSD tells me the next day it was at Amazonia and he picked gals for some guys that did not make it so I could have come. Oh well. Plenty of gals to choose from at BBS and I only needed to go into one room. A cute young gal from Guizhou who is 15 days into the job. She did everything requested but still a little shy. 250 but have your own cover, she does not supply.
Cal8
California8
11-20-11, 02:43
This place was busy. Plenty of girls but maybe not enough rooms. The gals follow you to the room and line up in the hallway. All different sizes and shapes and uniforms. I picked a petite, pretty maid who turned out to be 21 from Hubei with a tight body. She told me 158 and 90 jin, perhaps that is pounds? I get a nice slow striptease and BBBJCIM within the first 15 minutes. I tried to hold off but not possible. Rest then into the wet area for a thorough cleaning on the shower table with soapy body slide on both sides and a short teasing BBBJ. Onto the bed for a baby oil massage and body slide again on both sides, little bro is cleaned up and more BBBJ and then since it is my second pop, I last longer than expected for the deed. Time is almost up and in fact the phone rings after she showers me up again and while she is showering. Must have told her, we need the room! She quickly dried off, dressed and we left with her hair still wet. I have never been so clean plus I got GFE treatment. She had told me that she worked as a waitress in CP for a year but has only been at the sauna for half of a month. Someone trained her well. Perhaps she saw her friends working at the sauna and buying more things than she could. 248 to the house and 400 to the gal.
I have only been to the new sauna at Lucky Hotel here, not as many girls to choose from. So I must say compared to other cities I have visited in China this sauna experience rates way up near the top. Shanghai is up there but a little more expensive. I got GFE, two pops, no attitude and just my type of girl from plenty to choose from and such a cutie. Well, if she had a school girl uniform instead but I like maids too. A rather pleasant memory to leave China on.
Thanks BSDave for setting it up.
Cal8
IlikePie,
Perhaps you are right about their overall service at the foot massage place above Pozilim. Perhaps that day I was just unlucky, since it was a Sunday and they were busy, but neglected to tell me that there would be a wait of 20 mins or so. The place is newer which is nice, just that it has this methanol smell in the room though, which I am not a fan or. Perhaps I may go back sometime later on a few months from now. Since the last confrontation with the supervisor lady, I think I will avoid for now. I'm sure their food isn't too bad since it's the owner of legend cafe, which serves pretty decent food.
I'm not currently in CP right now, so the guy you saw today was definitely not me. But I look like every other old Chinese man with a pop-belly. So I tend to blend in along with everyone else. But hope to meet you sometime soon on your next trip.
Take care and happy mongering!
AsnDragon.
I've actually become a regular there since several months ago, only had to wait once because they were super busy that day. Usually the masseuse gets into the room within 2 minutes after I order my drink. I like the place. Nice atmosphere, courteous staff, good free food with massage, and the massage is pretty good too. Shoulders, foot, head, arms, thighs, they'll even massage your back if you want although I don't like laying face down on a reclined chair. I head downstairs for the back massage. About the food, menu has english and pictures, which is great. However, they are redoing their kitchen right now so choices are limited. Still. 95rmb for more than 2hrs of relaxation, usually, heheh sry asndragon, it's not a bad place to kill time during the day. I forget the price for 80 minutes. 50 or 55 probably. Never did a short session there. Pozolim does footies as well if you prefer to just go there. Thing is, I've had a lot of experiences of having to wait at Pozolim. Even if you call ahead and make an appointment you can still wait an hour when you get there on time. BTW, were you at Pozolim tonight asndragon? Never met you but from your posts I know your an older Chinese gentleman that speaks fluent english. Saw one today. How many can there be right? I'm Chinese american and I know maybe 3.
Virgin Sauna actually has a lot of rooms. But their business is just so good that with all the rooms that they have, guys still have to wait for rooms.
Virgin Sauna use to be top notch. I'm not saying that they are not good anymore, just that their service level in my opinion has gone down a little bit. Their business is just so good that sometimes girls get a bit lazy. They will feel you out and see what kind of customer you are. If you seem nice and easy going, they will try to do as little as possible during the session. IN comparison to meibao, I think Meibao has better service overall.
In terms of BBBJCIM, I have never had that before. I have never met a girl who was able to give me such an amazing blowjob that I ended up cumming in her mouth. I find myself to be very deprived of such a wonderful experience. Can any brother out there recommend a girl so amazing at giving BJ that her success rate in BBBJCIM is 100% I need to experience that at least once. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
AsnDragon.
This place was busy. Plenty of girls but maybe not enough rooms. The gals follow you to the room and line up in the hallway. All different sizes and shapes and uniforms. I picked a petite, pretty maid who turned out to be 21 from Hubei with a tight body. She told me 158 and 90 jin, perhaps that is pounds? I get a nice slow striptease and BBBJCIM within the first 15 minutes. I tried to hold off but not possible. Rest then into the wet area for a thorough cleaning on the shower table with soapy body slide on both sides and a short teasing BBBJ. Onto the bed for a baby oil massage and body slide again on both sides, little bro is cleaned up and more BBBJ and then since it is my second pop, I last longer than expected for the deed. Time is almost up and in fact the phone rings after she showers me up again and while she is showering. Must have told her, we need the room! She quickly dried off, dressed and we left with her hair still wet. I have never been so clean plus I got GFE treatment. She had told me that she worked as a waitress in CP for a year but has only been at the sauna for half of a month. Someone trained her well. Perhaps she saw her friends working at the sauna and buying more things than she could. 248 to the house and 400 to the gal.
I have only been to the new sauna at Lucky Hotel here, not as many girls to choose from. So I must say compared to other cities I have visited in China this sauna experience rates way up near the top. Shanghai is up there but a little more expensive. I got GFE, two pops, no attitude and just my type of girl from plenty to choose from and such a cutie. Well, if she had a school girl uniform instead but I like maids too. A rather pleasant memory to leave China on.
Thanks BSDave for setting it up.
Cal8
SEAJOE,
I completely agree with you! Rates that some KTVs charge does not justify the quality and service. But girls do end up going to where the money is. In the case of Hui Mei, they will most likely lose most of their girls anyways as many will end up going to high volume KTVs like Mayflower, Yihao or Eurasia. So even if some hotels raise the rates for their girls, if they cannot attract enough customers to their hotel, it's a futile effort in employee retention.
Does this environment remind you a little bit of 2007 summer and fall? In 2007 in CP, girls were really stuck up and demanding. I remember back in the days when Swan Lake BBS was located in the swan lake KTV, where each mommie had their own room. Once you entered in they would trap you in and won't let you out until you chose a girl in the room. Back in those days, the fee was 250 RMB because Swan lake KTV was supposedly peddling KTV girls, even though they were basically BBS girls. I remember that I had tipped 50 RMB on top of 250 RMB a total of 300 RMB and the girl stood there at the doorway expecting me to pull out another 50 RMB for a total of 350RMB. When I refused to give her a 100 RMB tip, she started cursing at me and said that I was a dirty cheap customer, proceeded to slam the door in my face and left. Those times were rough for mongers in CP. Girl's expectations where sky high back in 2007. Then of course 2008 fall came along and it pulled down the whole entire expectation among the girls. All of a sudden if they asked for a tip, you just said, right now there's a financial tsunami that affected you, and they just shut up and moved on with their lives.
The European collapse will be definitely re-adjust the girl's expectations to be lower than what it is now. However, the only problem with the Euro collapse, is that their collapse would be a catastrophic shock to all markets around the world. Everybody will be negatively affected by the Euro-zone disintegration. But it's really a matter of time before the contagion spreads around in Europe where they cannot contain it-leading to Euro zone demise. Let's all hope every brother has some hard cash set aside for your mongering fund when that happens. Perhaps holding USD won't be so bad in the future as most countries will end up buying US again, thus pushing USD value up. Too bad RMB is semi-pegged to the USD, which won't really help us on the China end.
Oh well, enough worrying! Live life as if tomorrow is your last day!
AsnDragon.
Before I forget, I just wanted to say a great big Hi to George. And apologize for catching you off guard.
Anyway was at the Hui Mei KTV just now.
AGES since I've been there but the place really has not changed all these years.
Terrible song selection, older rooms, and worse of all, the gals are still all sub-par!
But they now got the nerve to dare to charge 2-6-9 and 3-7-10 for the girls!
How do these places justify this kind of charges? But then again, the girls themselves told me that if they didn't up the rates, they wouldn't have come over to work there.
So what I was worried about has actually come true; that the competiton for girls amongst the KTV operators is now forcing them to up the girl rates across the board.
We really need the European Union to crumble. Then we'll see if ANY of these KTV's is going to be able to keep their doors open!
LOL.
SEAJ
California8
11-20-11, 13:18
Virgin Sauna actually has a lot of rooms. But their business is just so good that with all the rooms that they have, guys still have to wait for rooms.
Virgin Sauna use to be top notch. I'm not saying that they are not good anymore, just that their service level in my opinion has gone down a little bit. Their business is just so good that sometimes girls get a bit lazy. They will feel you out and see what kind of customer you are. If you seem nice and easy going, they will try to do as little as possible during the session. IN comparison to meibao, I think Meibao has better service overall.
In terms of BBBJCIM, I have never had that before. I have never met a girl who was able to give me such an amazing blowjob that I ended up cumming in her mouth. I find myself to be very deprived of such a wonderful experience. Can any brother out there recommend a girl so amazing at giving BJ that her success rate in BBBJCIM is 100% I need to experience that at least once. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
AsnDragon.AD:
You are right, I praised the whole sauna when I should have said that this particular girl is really what made the session memorable for me. Perhaps since she is new in the business, she is not jaded and is still trying hard to please. Anyway, I repeat, someone trained her well.
Cal8
California8
11-20-11, 13:46
I am sure many will argue that this report should be posted elsewhere, I will pick here since I was traveling from CP to HKIA. Travelers from anywhere to Hong Kong could be affected.
I took an afternoon van from CP to HKIA. The van picked me up at Clipper Hotel, it had 3 passengers already and we went to Miraton to switch to a Hong Kong van (steering wheel on the right side) and there were already some others waiting there. Everyone had green passports (I think Taiwan) except me, USA. Went through China immigration no problem and at Hong Kong customs all was well. The officer asked the driver something in Chinese and the driver repeated to the passengers, I did not understand and no one in the van responded. Turned out, we were being asked if we had anything to declare. We were directed to pull over, everyone took all their luggage out, went into a little building and we had to put the luggage through a xray machine. The guy ahead of me in line, outside the building, was frantically opening his luggage and going through it. Well, he never made it out of the building.
As we waited for him, I saw the signs describing the limits on liquor (volume) and tobacco (19 cigarettes). I was thinking that if he just had a few extra cartons of cigarettes, he would pay the fine, lose his stuff and be on the way. We waited at least 20 minutes and finally the customs guys came out and told us to leave without him. Not sure if he will make his flight if he has to spend some extra time in Hong Kong.
I am sorry that I can not give you more details because of my poor language ability both for listening and asking more. The caution is you never know if you will the in the car that has its luggage searched or even at the airport if you get randomly pulled aside. I am sure there are mongers that have made the trip numerous times and never been pulled over.
Cal8
Jettsetter
11-20-11, 18:44
Virgin Sauna actually has a lot of rooms. But their business is just so good that with all the rooms that they have, guys still have to wait for rooms.
Virgin Sauna use to be top notch. I'm not saying that they are not good anymore, just that their service level in my opinion has gone down a little bit. Their business is just so good that sometimes girls get a bit lazy. They will feel you out and see what kind of customer you are. If you seem nice and easy going, they will try to do as little as possible during the session. IN comparison to meibao, I think Meibao has better service overall.
In terms of BBBJCIM, I have never had that before. I have never met a girl who was able to give me such an amazing blowjob that I ended up cumming in her mouth. I find myself to be very deprived of such a wonderful experience. Can any brother out there recommend a girl so amazing at giving BJ that her success rate in BBBJCIM is 100% I need to experience that at least once. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
AsnDragon.I'm with you on a gal that can make me cum just by a BJ. I think in my history of BJ's, there's maybe been only one gal (Angeles City) that came (no pun intended) close. The rest of my BBBJCIM have been through the timed, pump, remove condom in time for the money shot. But this takes preparation and willingness by the girl. In the alternative, the BBBJCIM has been achieved, by manual stimulation with a CIM finish. The true gem is a gal who lets you do her with the money shot via BBBJTCIM. That's a rare gal who will be willing to do that.
But hey. Isn't part of the fun, the interview. Testing out process. See how far these gals will go? I find that to be the best part of picking and mixing company. But in general, the bad ones outnumber the good ones. That's why when you find a good one, put them in the rotation. And treat them well.
-Jett
Jettsetter
11-20-11, 18:56
I am sure many will argue that this report should be posted elsewhere, I will pick here since I was traveling from CP to HKIA. Travelers from anywhere to Hong Kong could be affected.
I took an afternoon van from CP to HKIA. The van picked me up at Clipper Hotel, it had 3 passengers already and we went to Miraton to switch to a Hong Kong van (steering wheel on the right side) and there were already some others waiting there. Everyone had green passports (I think Taiwan) except me, USA. Went through China immigration no problem and at Hong Kong customs all was well. The officer asked the driver something in Chinese and the driver repeated to the passengers, I did not understand and no one in the van responded. Turned out, we were being asked if we had anything to declare. We were directed to pull over, everyone took all their luggage out, went into a little building and we had to put the luggage through a xray machine. The guy ahead of me in line, outside the building, was frantically opening his luggage and going through it. Well, he never made it out of the building.
As we waited for him, I saw the signs describing the limits on liquor (volume) and tobacco (19 cigarettes). I was thinking that if he just had a few extra cartons of cigarettes, he would pay the fine, lose his stuff and be on the way. We waited at least 20 minutes and finally the customs guys came out and told us to leave without him. Not sure if he will make his flight if he has to spend some extra time in Hong Kong.
I am sorry that I can not give you more details because of my poor language ability both for listening and asking more. The caution is you never know if you will the in the car that has its luggage searched or even at the airport if you get randomly pulled aside. I am sure there are mongers that have made the trip numerous times and never been pulled over.
Cal8I've been stopped a few times. Once I had hired my own van (part of moving a bunch of stuff here). Lots of times, the customs guys are looking for things to tax you on. So things that are NEW or IN THE BOX, are the easy targets. I think (and I'm not sure) but they must have some sort of entire car scanner somewhere before getting to the check point. The reason I think this is that on one trip, I was carrying a bunch of cables INSIDE my suitcase. It was just me in the car and my suitcases, they specifically pulled out the one with all the wiring and had it scanned. While asking me why I had so much wiring. I explained I was moving to an apartment and needed cables for my equipment, etc. Then they asked me about my scanner and how much it was worth. I said $100 or so, and they let me go.
On my recent trip (just two days ago) after doing a shopping trip with my gf and her friend who bought all these name brand goods (she has lots of her own money) , we were stopped, because of all the bags from high end stores. (I wasn't too happy that she did that). But anyways, the cutsoms lady came and inquired about receipts and value of certain items. Everything was about one or two hundred (she said she threw away the receipts already). Luckily the customs lady didn't go snooping becuase it was buried in the bag. Then she forced us to scan all our bags and got stuck looking for a fake ladies watch which she realized was used and had us close up our bags and go on.
So it seems they're lokoing for more taxable type of items. Things that aren't for personal use. New in boxes, etc. So if you plan on bringing stuff, that's expensive or in bulk, try to make it seem used or at leasto ut of your boxes. Seems funny that we had bags etc in the front compartment which they never checked. Only items in the back. So if you want to sneak soemthing, keep it in the front.
Just some insight. I mean I can only speak from the few experiences where we got stopped. I'm no expert. But seems that's what their motivation is from what I've seen. I was told by my driver that the max you're allowed to bring in. In new goods is $5000 RMB. So keep that in mind.
-J
No Diggity
11-20-11, 22:33
To all Taikos, has anyone of your previously visited CP during CNY? Was it a dead city? Is it possible still to have fun? I am talking about the month of January and February 2012.
Cheers.
No Diggity
Dan Hawaii
11-21-11, 04:22
Hi everyone and senior members,
Missed all you guys. I haven't been on ISG for so long, since March of this year. Which was The last time I've been to CP. Been busy working and crap. But I got an open window to come for 1 week next month, December 16. 23 or so. Don't ask how, but it's a rare open window, kind of risky, but worth it just to see familiar faces and good friends again. Most likely coming alone.
BSD, glad you're doing so well and got an assistant, wow! Nice. Looking forward to seeing you and hope you have a warm spot under your wing for me. Are you going to be there right before Christmas?
Seaj, kind of bored with your neutral banter, where's the wave stirring drama king, Seaj, I have oddly been fond of? .
Anyone else going to be there from December 16 to 23?
FreePeaks, jet, brucetea, ?
Hi everyone and senior members,
Missed all you guys. I haven't been on ISG for so long, since March of this year. Which was The last time I've been to CP. Been busy working and crap. But I got an open window to come for 1 week next month, December 16. 23 or so. Don't ask how, but it's a rare open window, kind of risky, but worth it just to see familiar faces and good friends again. Most likely coming alone.
BSD, glad you're doing so well and got an assistant, wow! Nice. Looking forward to seeing you and hope you have a warm spot under your wing for me. Are you going to be there right before Christmas?
Seaj, kind of bored with your neutral banter, where's the wave stirring drama king, Seaj, I have oddly been fond of? .
Anyone else going to be there from December 16 to 23?
FreePeaks, jet, brucetea, ?Dan,
I haven't seen Bruce in a long time, I am sure Jett will let you know if he is around, and there is an outside chance I will be in town during one or two of those days. If you make it, hope we can catch. I have been working or away for a while now, so will be ready for a good time in a couple of weeks!
I wouldn't worry too much about Joe, he is just waiting for the right moment.
Sky
Ok, I'm really depressed now as my time in CP is over. I've spent most of my time this trip with my favourite CP girl who I found in a BBS earlier this year. This trip I ran into her by coincidence and we ended up spending just under a week together. As you know, things can get really slow during the day in CP and it isn't a lot of fun while you wait for the action in the late afternoon / nighttime but here are a few things that I did with my girl, really GFE sort of things that you can do in CP if you find a keeper that you want to take out and have 'dates' with rather than the KTV, nice to meet you, let's drink and fuck sort of arrangement.
So, here are my picks from the last few days:
* Go to the cinema. The CP cinema is at the Testco shopping mall and is about a 5 minute taxi ride from city centre. There is actually a really good deal going on at the moment where you can buy 5 cinema vouchers + popcorn and 2 drinks for only 109 yuan! That's so friggin cheap though keep in mind the vouchers expire at the end of March next year.
* Go to the amusement park on the hill. (Ying Jin Shan Ling) ask BSD for the full Chinese name as I can't exactly remember but I was taken there by my girl and it is basically an amusement park with a lot of fun things to do. You can easily kill a day and make your girl happy by trying out the rides, you can ride horses, do go karts, archery, and there is a real Counter Strike venue where you can dress up and play war games. I didn't try it as we went at night time (free entry and all rides are half price) on a weekday where it was pretty quite but nevertheless very romantic! . The park is about 10 minutes drive from CP (30-40 yuan taxi ride one way).
* Go to the Lang which is another part of Dong Guan and about 30 minutes drive from CP (about 60 yuan by taxi one way). It is a much larger town than CP and there is a huge lake / park called Song Shan Hu which is a LOT of fun! Basically, when you get there you have to rent a bike (you can rent one where you and your girl and both ride) and cycle leisurely around the lake. Bikes require I'd to rent or a 300 yuan deposit and the ride was absolutely AWESOME, especially if you do it near sunset! The lake / park is about 9 square kilometers in size and there are a lot of people there cycling, walking or roller skating, it's really a nice date activity and guaranteed to make your girl happy! .
* Go to the mahjong hall, I went there last night with my girl (most girls like playing mahjong) and you can waste a few hours there playing with other strangers. The downside of this is that it can cost quite a lot! My girl lost 200 yuan last night after playing for just over 2 hours so it is not cheap if things don't go well.
Anyway, the only downside of doing the date sort of activities is that when you leave CP, it is so damn hard. My girl came to see me off at the train station and cried her eyes out when I left. It was just so depressing for me as well and I don't think I've ever felt this depressed in my own relationships back home which is just so twisted and wrong. But if you have a gem of a girl who you'd like to take out and fun with outside the usual meet and fuck routine, I suggest the above as CP can be a place for fun if you have the time and mind to pursue it!
That's pretty much from me. Until next time CP!
Member #4144
11-21-11, 16:06
To all Taikos, has anyone of your previously visited CP during CNY? Was it a dead city? Is it possible still to have fun? I am talking about the month of January and February 2012.
Cheers.
No DiggityMe too, can someone help us out? All my regular girls in Guangzhou will be gone by Jan 17, so I have no place to find girls and hope CP still have some who do not go back home for CNY, so are all the ktvs still open around that time?
Fillmore
Sardaukar1
11-21-11, 22:06
Of course there'll still be girls around, and KTVs will be open. The only occasion when KTVs are closed for business is during crackdowns.
You just have to settle for lesser quality, that's all.
Me too, can someone help us out? All my regular girls in Guangzhou will be gone by Jan 17, so I have no place to find girls and hope CP still have some who do not go back home for CNY, so are all the ktvs still open around that time?
Fillmore
Sardaukar1
11-21-11, 22:09
Avoid these random mahjong halls. It is very easy for 3 other strangers to pretend they don't know each other and gang up against you. When you're up against 3 players you're guaranteed to lose.
Go to the mahjong hall, I went there last night with my girl (most girls like playing mahjong) and you can waste a few hours there playing with other strangers. The downside of this is that it can cost quite a lot! My girl lost 200 yuan last night after playing for just over 2 hours so it is not cheap if things don't go well.
Fast Eddie 48
11-22-11, 01:23
Me too, can someone help us out? All my regular girls in Guangzhou will be gone by Jan 17, so I have no place to find girls and hope CP still have some who do not go back home for CNY, so are all the ktvs still open around that time?
FillmoreTo Fillmore,
This subject have been talk about many time here most girl that have money will go home for CNY, mostly one week before and a few days after but travel back home suck during this time and most girl will stay, I pick up girl from bbs during CNY only a few avalible but there are also less monger around and line up at the sauna and KTV will be bad if you are not too picky girl are avalible.
Fast Eddie 48
My advice is to go to CP a couple of weeks to three weeks before CNY. In the past, many regular girls need to earn some extra money to bring back home to their younger siblings and parents. So you will see an influx of girls that you usually never see before, who are just doing this temporarily to earn some money for transport and to buy some goodies back home. So you usually see new talent during this time period.
However, during Chinese New year it's pretty much dead. Saunas are all scared to open except for Virgin. Selection is not good at all.
The couple of weeks following CNY is not good either. Selection is poor as many girls haven't come back to CP to work yet. It usually takes a good 3-4 weeks for all the girls to start trickling back.
However, this isn't always the case. During last year's big freeze and 2008 big freeze during CNY it was so difficult for girls to go home because of the weather conditions. So girls decided to stay in CP and not go home until a month or so later. So all of a sudden there was a good amount of girls to choose from.
Most brothers have a list of regulars that they keep, just in case the selection is not up to par. I would recommend about a list of 20 girls, as almost half of them would be home for CNY. So the bigger the list, the better the chances.
Last year it was so damn cold in CP that freepeaks and SEAJOE had to buy those portable heaters just to stay warm. Not a great place to be when it's freezing cold. That added with the humidity increases the coldness and the lack of insulation in all of the cement buildings doesn't help either.
I mean can you imagine how much colder it is up in northern China? No wonder many northern Chinese don't take many showers during the winter back in the olden days.
AsnDragon.
To Fillmore,
This subject have been talk about many time here most girl that have money will go home for CNY, mostly one week before and a few days after but travel back home suck during this time and most girl will stay, I pick up girl from bbs during CNY only a few avalible but there are also less monger around and line up at the sauna and KTV will be bad if you are not too picky girl are avalible.
Fast Eddie 48
Jett,
I can't agree more. If I DO find that girl she will be a keeper.
I've been analyzing the situation with me and all of them girls recently. I realize that perhaps it's not all about physical attraction when it comes to having a good time or easy time in ejaculating.
I use to think that if you had a HOT chick, there's no way for you NOT to have a good time in bed. But I realize that with all the years of mongering that a lot of it has to do with the feeling you have for that girl at that time. I find that even with hot girls I find it boring to repeat more than 2 times. In fact with many hot girls I don't even do more than once. In fact with some HOT girls I can only do them once for an overnight session.
But for the girls that I have a deeper connection with. Where we get along, I feel comfortable around her (even if she's not that HOT) I could do her three times a day and not get sick of her. It's a combination of everything I suppose. But perhaps I've never gotten a BBBJCIM situation is not just the skill, but also because I didn't really feel a connection with the girl. Especially in a sauna situation, they are so mechanical that it's hard for you to build that excitement.
But there have been girls where I like the way they moan or their reaction in bed, or just subtle things like the way they want to french kiss you in bed that makes the experience so exhilarating that I couldn't hold my load.
I don't know, am I just getting old?
AsnDragon.
I'm with you on a gal that can make me cum just by a BJ. I think in my history of BJ's, there's maybe been only one gal (Angeles City) that came (no pun intended) close. The rest of my BBBJCIM have been through the timed, pump, remove condom in time for the money shot. But this takes preparation and willingness by the girl. In the alternative, the BBBJCIM has been achieved, by manual stimulation with a CIM finish. The true gem is a gal who lets you do her with the money shot via BBBJTCIM. That's a rare gal who will be willing to do that.
But hey. Isn't part of the fun, the interview. Testing out process. See how far these gals will go? I find that to be the best part of picking and mixing company. But in general, the bad ones outnumber the good ones. That's why when you find a good one, put them in the rotation. And treat them well.
-Jett
Dan Hawaii
11-22-11, 08:04
Nice information. There's another amusement park that's just 45 minutes by train, but may actually take 1 1/2 hours total trip time. Waiting for the train and stuff. There's also a water park nearby that is pretty modern and comparable to the USA's, raging waters park. This amusement park is just as good as magic mountain here in the USA. Here's the spiel I got from another website,
Chimelong Paradise is one of China's largest theme parks and is recognised internationally. * Opening in 2006 it has over 70 rides including a 10-looped roller coaster, mentioned in the Guiness Book of Records. * It also stages the worlds largest water stunt show with an international cast of top stunt men and women. * There are rides to scare even the biggest thrill seekers, an indoor Childrens*ride entertainment*area the largest of its kind*in China, and a water world section where you are guaranteed to get wet. * For people looking for some fun and excitement and somewhere to take the kids (big or small) this is a days*activity which will surprise you! *
Chimelong Paradise is located in Panyu District, Guangzhou. 30mins*from the heart of*Guangzhou City. * It is situated on Metro Train line 3, at the Hanxi-Chanlong Station, and is also reachable by bus, taxi or private vehicle. * For more information see their website:* www.chimelongparadise.com
The water stunt show was really awesome. The best show I ever saw, even better that universal studios. Jetskis, hover crafts, dirt bikes, boats, fire, etc. Man! Was super awesome! The steel tube rollercoasters were solid and scary as f@$k too!
Ok, I'm really depressed now as my time in CP is over. I've spent most of my time this trip with my favourite CP girl who I found in a BBS earlier this year. This trip I ran into her by coincidence and we ended up spending just under a week together. As you know, things can get really slow during the day in CP and it isn't a lot of fun while you wait for the action in the late afternoon / nighttime but here are a few things that I did with my girl, really GFE sort of things that you can do in CP if you find a keeper that you want to take out and have 'dates' with rather than the KTV, nice to meet you, let's drink and fuck sort of arrangement.
So, here are my picks from the last few days:
* Go to the cinema. The CP cinema is at the Testco shopping mall and is about a 5 minute taxi ride from city centre. There is actually a really good deal going on at the moment where you can buy 5 cinema vouchers + popcorn and 2 drinks for only 109 yuan! That's so friggin cheap though keep in mind the vouchers expire at the end of March next year.
* Go to the amusement park on the hill. (Ying Jin Shan Ling) ask BSD for the full Chinese name as I can't exactly remember but I was taken there by my girl and it is basically an amusement park with a lot of fun things to do. You can easily kill a day and make your girl happy by trying out the rides, you can ride horses, do go karts, archery, and there is a real Counter Strike venue where you can dress up and play war games. I didn't try it as we went at night time (free entry and all rides are half price) on a weekday where it was pretty quite but nevertheless very romantic! . The park is about 10 minutes drive from CP (30-40 yuan taxi ride one way).
* Go to the Lang which is another part of Dong Guan and about 30 minutes drive from CP (about 60 yuan by taxi one way). It is a much larger town than CP and there is a huge lake / park called Song Shan Hu which is a LOT of fun! Basically, when you get there you have to rent a bike (you can rent one where you and your girl and both ride) and cycle leisurely around the lake. Bikes require I'd to rent or a 300 yuan deposit and the ride was absolutely AWESOME, especially if you do it near sunset! The lake / park is about 9 square kilometers in size and there are a lot of people there cycling, walking or roller skating, it's really a nice date activity and guaranteed to make your girl happy! .
* Go to the mahjong hall, I went there last night with my girl (most girls like playing mahjong) and you can waste a few hours there playing with other strangers. The downside of this is that it can cost quite a lot! My girl lost 200 yuan last night after playing for just over 2 hours so it is not cheap if things don't go well.
Anyway, the only downside of doing the date sort of activities is that when you leave CP, it is so damn hard. My girl came to see me off at the train station and cried her eyes out when I left. It was just so depressing for me as well and I don't think I've ever felt this depressed in my own relationships back home which is just so twisted and wrong. But if you have a gem of a girl who you'd like to take out and fun with outside the usual meet and fuck routine, I suggest the above as CP can be a place for fun if you have the time and mind to pursue it!
That's pretty much from me. Until next time CP!
Dan Hawaii
11-22-11, 08:17
Asiandragon.
Best advice. First thing off the US plane, go to the sauna and get a girl with DSL (dick sucking lips). Will happen easier if you never had sex for a couple of months.
Would be hard for you, Jett, you practically grown roots in the CP soil.
Jett,
I can't agree more. If I DO find that girl she will be a keeper.
I've been analyzing the situation with me and all of them girls recently. I realize that perhaps it's not all about physical attraction when it comes to having a good time or easy time in ejaculating.
I use to think that if you had a HOT chick, there's no way for you NOT to have a good time in bed. But I realize that with all the years of mongering that a lot of it has to do with the feeling you have for that girl at that time. I find that even with hot girls I find it boring to repeat more than 2 times. In fact with many hot girls I don't even do more than once. In fact with some HOT girls I can only do them once for an overnight session.
But for the girls that I have a deeper connection with. Where we get along, I feel comfortable around her (even if she's not that HOT) I could do her three times a day and not get sick of her. It's a combination of everything I suppose. But perhaps I've never gotten a BBBJCIM situation is not just the skill, but also because I didn't really feel a connection with the girl. Especially in a sauna situation, they are so mechanical that it's hard for you to build that excitement.
But there have been girls where I like the way they moan or their reaction in bed, or just subtle things like the way they want to french kiss you in bed that makes the experience so exhilarating that I couldn't hold my load.
I don't know, am I just getting old?
AsnDragon.
Dan Hawaii
11-22-11, 08:25
Dan,
I haven't seen Bruce in a long time, I am sure Jett will let you know if he is around, and there is an outside chance I will be in town during one or two of those days. If you make it, hope we can catch. I have been working or away for a while now, so will be ready for a good time in a couple of weeks!
I wouldn't worry too much about Joe, he is just waiting for the right moment.
SkyThanks bro. I'm still trying to plan my escape to CP. Haha. December 16- 23 is my only open window. I'm either going to succeed or be able to go CP all the time. Hahaha. If you know what I mean.
Yeah, I'll pm BSD, he usually has a roster on hand. I'll be bothering that local brother every single minute.
Jett,
I can't agree more. If I DO find that girl she will be a keeper.
I've been analyzing the situation with me and all of them girls recently. I realize that perhaps it's not all about physical attraction when it comes to having a good time or easy time in ejaculating.
I don't know, am I just getting old?
AsnDragon.AD,
I couldn't agree with you more about having something more than "a hot babe in bed", maybe I am getting old as well. I think one issue I have with the BBBJTCCIM is that at my current position in the time line of life, I don't recover as quickly as I used to, so I know that I need to make every "shot" count! Not that a really good BJ is a waste, but if I am with some hot little number that won't be around long enough for round 2 (or 3) then I want to experience as much of her as possible. I tend to try and extend the session to include a few different "vantage points". My experience is that oral stimulation is one of the first things on the list, so if I finish then it is game over. Now with something more of a long term nature this is not an issue, since I know that I have had / will have more opportunities. I have one long term gal that absolutely refuses to let me go without draining me dry, and after she has completed her quest, she is always smiling at me as she heads for the bathroom to spit. I think it is to remind me of what I have with her and to delay as long as possible my need for female companionship. Can't blame her for trying. With her (and a few others) , since I know that there will be a next time it is easier to give into the sensation. There is one caveat, when I have encountered a gal that won't let me CIM, if I am interested, it now becomes a "thing" to get her to give in. I don't think I have ever not warned a gal, that would be rude, unless of course I know they don't care. I have however waited to last possible moment hoping that they wouldn't pull off in the heat of passion. This has met with limited success. A few have been pleasantly surprised, most have withdrawn gracefully, and a couple have been really pissed and just stopped everything! I will say this, when you find a gal that loves giving oral as much as they do receiving, it can be magical. Lay back, relax, and let it flow. They seem to be in tune with what is necessary and enjoy the "power" they have over you for a few minutes.
Fast Eddie 48
11-23-11, 00:00
My advice is to go to CP a couple of weeks to three weeks before CNY. In the past, many regular girls need to earn some extra money to bring back home to their younger siblings and parents. So you will see an influx of girls sudden there was a good amount of girls to choose from.
I mean can you imagine how much colder it is up in northern China? No wonder many northern Chinese don't take many showers during the winter back in the olden days.
AsnDragon.To ASN
The action in CP during CNY also depend on the crack down during 2008 is so bad all sauna and most bbs are closed down, I escape to Manila and AC for a week, I never have any need for heating in Guangzhou only in Shanghai I need heater and I spend many cold winter in the US east coast.
Fast Eddie 48
Jettsetter
11-23-11, 01:19
Thanks bro. I'm still trying to plan my escape to CP. Haha. December 16- 23 is my only open window. I'm either going to succeed or be able to go CP all the time. Hahaha. If you know what I mean.
Yeah, I'll pm BSD, he usually has a roster on hand. I'll be bothering that local brother every single minute.I've been here for months waiting your arrival and you come just as I'm leaving! Haha. No worries Dan. We'll see you next time I'm sure. But I'm out early December until early spring. I'm sure you won't be that sad. OR LONELY.
As for BT. Haven't seen him for ages. He's sort of here. Alot and then MIA. Most guys linger. They leave here and you see them pop up on the board. Often times, I remember the guys but not their handles, so I can't put their handles to the face!
Have a good time. You coming solo or with your crew?
-Jett
Jettsetter
11-23-11, 01:30
my advice is to go to cp a couple of weeks to three weeks before cny. in the past, many regular girls need to earn some extra money to bring back home to their younger siblings and parents. so you will see an influx of girls that you usually never see before, who are just doing this temporarily to earn some money for transport and to buy some goodies back home. so you usually see new talent during this time period.
however, during chinese new year it's pretty much dead. saunas are all scared to open except for virgin. selection is not good at all.
the couple of weeks following cny is not good either. selection is poor as many girls haven't come back to cp to work yet. it usually takes a good 3-4 weeks for all the girls to start trickling back.
however, this isn't always the case. during last year's big freeze and 2008 big freeze during cny it was so difficult for girls to go home because of the weather conditions. so girls decided to stay in cp and not go home until a month or so later. so all of a sudden there was a good amount of girls to choose from.
most brothers have a list of regulars that they keep, just in case the selection is not up to par. i would recommend about a list of 20 girls, as almost half of them would be home for cny. so the bigger the list, the better the chances.
last year it was so damn cold in cp that freepeaks and seajoe had to buy those portable heaters just to stay warm. not a great place to be when it's freezing cold. that added with the humidity increases the coldness and the lack of insulation in all of the cement buildings doesn't help either.
i mean can you imagine how much colder it is up in northern china? no wonder many northern chinese don't take many showers during the winter back in the olden days.
asndragon.it can be great for cny to get those newbie girls fresh to make some extra cash . but be warned. china traditionally sees an increase in crime right before cny for the very same reason. the cabbies also try to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you. unlike christmas in the states where retailers make more money and the economy is good based on everyone's "happy" feelings of wanting to spend, in china, it's scramble for cash for your momma. so there's all sorts of scams and thefts, etc. so brothers, be careful.
i've witnessed two crimes in the past three months, broad daylight,. these are moto-scooter snatch and grab type of situations. 1. purse and 2. gold necklace. both occurred in front of the rainbow shopping center by mcdonalds. patron walking, guy runs and snatches, runs to getaway motor and gets away. by the time you realize what's happened, you can't catch and speedy bastard and the motor zooms away. and nobody helps.
best thing to do, stay smart, and not be flashy. don't talk on your iphone 4 loosely holding the phone out in the street. if you're going to talk, do it holding hte phone tight if walking on the street. otherwise, use a bluetooth headset or something. easier anyways. don't flash gold. chinese are all over your gold necklace. and if going to an atm, do it during the day with lots of people around, not alone at night.
i'm sure lots of fun could be had. i won't be able to join in. but stay safe.
as for the cold. i agree, it's freezing. the chinese need to learn new construction techniques that involve something called "insulation". my apartment, is just concret, from inside and out. so in other words, when the winter comes, my building becomes what's called an ice box. sometimes it's warmer outside than inside, because concrete retains the cold and doesn't let it go. so i chill in my ice box.
my space heater sucks because while it works in the 10 foot vicinity, the remainder of the place is "f'and" freezing. ugh.
it's not a great time to come in terms of weather (dec / jan). march is great.
-j
Member #4144
11-23-11, 02:04
. i've witnessed two crimes in the past three months, broad daylight. these are moto-scooter snatch and grab type of situations. 1. purse and 2. gold necklace. both occurred in front of the rainbow shopping center by mcdonalds. patron walking, guy runs and snatches, runs to getaway motor and gets away. by the time you realize what's happened, you can't catch and speedy bastard and the motor zooms away. and nobody helps.
best thing to do, stay smart, and not be flashy. don't talk on your iphone 4 loosely holding the phone out in the street. if you're going to talk, do it holding hte phone tight if walking on the street. otherwise, use a bluetooth headset or something. easier anyways. don't flash gold. chinese are all over your gold necklace. and if going to an atm, do it during the day with lots of people around, not alone at night.
i'm sure lots of fun could be had. i won't be able to join in. but stay safe.
as for the cold. i agree, it's freezing. the chinese need to learn new construction techniques that involve something called "insulation". my apartment, is just concret, from inside and out. so in other words, when the winter comes, my building becomes what's called an ice box. sometimes it's warmer outside than inside, because concrete retains the cold and doesn't let it go. so i chill in my ice box.
my space heater sucks because while it works in the 10 foot vicinity, the remainder of the place is "f'and" freezing. ugh.
it's not a great time to come in terms of weather (dec / jan). march is great.
-ji will just stay in guangzhou then, thank you, at least my apt in guangzhou has ac (heat) and not freezing to death. actually, looks to me best if i just go down to hkif i feel really horny, as it looks like cp will only have the left overs during that time, while chantik on the hk board assured me that wan chai scene will be mostly untouched by the mighty cny.
i would also like to thank asndragon and fast eddie 48 for chipping in on this.
fillmore
Ok, I'm really depressed now as my time in CP is over. I've spent most of my time this trip with my favourite CP girl who I found in a BBS earlier this year. This trip I ran into her by coincidence and we ended up spending just under a week together. As you know, things can get really slow during the day in CP and it isn't a lot of fun while you wait for the action in the late afternoon / nighttime but here are a few things that I did with my girl, really GFE sort of things that you can do in CP if you find a keeper that you want to take out and have 'dates' with rather than the KTV, nice to meet you, let's drink and fuck sort of arrangement.
So, here are my picks from the last few days:
* Go to the cinema. The CP cinema is at the Testco shopping mall and is about a 5 minute taxi ride from city centre. There is actually a really good deal going on at the moment where you can buy 5 cinema vouchers + popcorn and 2 drinks for only 109 yuan! That's so friggin cheap though keep in mind the vouchers expire at the end of March next year.
* Go to the amusement park on the hill. (Ying Jin Shan Ling) ask BSD for the full Chinese name as I can't exactly remember but I was taken there by my girl and it is basically an amusement park with a lot of fun things to do. You can easily kill a day and make your girl happy by trying out the rides, you can ride horses, do go karts, archery, and there is a real Counter Strike venue where you can dress up and play war games. I didn't try it as we went at night time (free entry and all rides are half price) on a weekday where it was pretty quite but nevertheless very romantic! . The park is about 10 minutes drive from CP (30-40 yuan taxi ride one way).
* Go to the Lang which is another part of Dong Guan and about 30 minutes drive from CP (about 60 yuan by taxi one way). It is a much larger town than CP and there is a huge lake / park called Song Shan Hu which is a LOT of fun! Basically, when you get there you have to rent a bike (you can rent one where you and your girl and both ride) and cycle leisurely around the lake. Bikes require I'd to rent or a 300 yuan deposit and the ride was absolutely AWESOME, especially if you do it near sunset! The lake / park is about 9 square kilometers in size and there are a lot of people there cycling, walking or roller skating, it's really a nice date activity and guaranteed to make your girl happy! .
* Go to the mahjong hall, I went there last night with my girl (most girls like playing mahjong) and you can waste a few hours there playing with other strangers. The downside of this is that it can cost quite a lot! My girl lost 200 yuan last night after playing for just over 2 hours so it is not cheap if things don't go well.
Anyway, the only downside of doing the date sort of activities is that when you leave CP, it is so damn hard. My girl came to see me off at the train station and cried her eyes out when I left. It was just so depressing for me as well and I don't think I've ever felt this depressed in my own relationships back home which is just so twisted and wrong. But if you have a gem of a girl who you'd like to take out and fun with outside the usual meet and fuck routine, I suggest the above as CP can be a place for fun if you have the time and mind to pursue it!
That's pretty much from me. Until next time CP!Hey Rompz,
I really enjoy that kind of thing too with a regular, not just a Hi, bang, bye. But unfortunately I spend most of my time in Houjie and there is a shit ton less to do around there (at least that I know of).
A question I have for the experienced mongers here since I'm pretty new to this, but do you guys come across a lot of freebies? I know people say "free ends up being the most expensive" but is this common? Last trip I was in Houjie, I had 3 different girls come stay with me at my hotel for 2-3 days at a time, some coming from as far as downtown ShenZhen at their own expense. Another did my laundry in my hotel room while I went to work. Is this normal? I have been very clear to them that I am not looking for a relationship and I go out to other places and mess around when they are not there. Seems weird to me. Never asks me for a cent or for a gift.
Fillmore,
It just depends on what you are looking for. In HK most of the action you will find will probably be Filipino girls at all the bars in Wan Chai. If you are into that type of action then HK would be a good place to be, especially on weekends.
If you are looking for Chinese girls, I might suggest Macau. However, be forewarned that it gets pretty crazy busy there during that time as well.
AsnDragon.
I will just stay in Guangzhou then, thank you, at least my apt in Guangzhou has AC (heat) and not freezing to death. Actually, looks to me best if I just go down to HKif I feel really horny, as it looks like CP will only have the left overs during that time, while Chantik on the HK board assured me that Wan Chai scene will be mostly untouched by the mighty CNY.
I would also like to thank AsnDragon and Fast Eddie 48 for chipping in on this.
Fillmore
DGinf,
Freebies come by once in a while. Sure, most girls if they really like you are willing to put forth some effort and not ask for anything in return. But as they say, it's either you pay now or you pay later, in the end you will end up paying. If the freebies you talked about are Non-working girls, then perhaps they really do like you a lot. If they are working girls- they most likely are hoping that you will reward them later on with gifts etc.
In China, even if you make it completely clear that you do NOT want a relationship, this statement just goes in one ear and slips out the other. In their minds, NO just means=No not right now. Most of these girls are hoping that they can change your mind or heart.
I would always suggest that with any WG, that you pay them for their time or give them a gift for their time. Most of them have pretty hard lives and by sparing a bit of "kindness" in a form of a gift or money would be appropriate. It also makes the line much more clear. The worst is to unintentionally lead on a girl. As in any country, girls, when I love with a man, can end up doing crazy things.
Happy mongering! Houjie is kind of dead these days. Fairly spread out and not much action besides KTV and Saunas.
AsnDragon.
Hey Rompz,
I really enjoy that kind of thing too with a regular, not just a Hi, bang, bye. But unfortunately I spend most of my time in Houjie and there is a shit ton less to do around there (at least that I know of).
A question I have for the experienced mongers here since I'm pretty new to this, but do you guys come across a lot of freebies? I know people say "free ends up being the most expensive" but is this common? Last trip I was in Houjie, I had 3 different girls come stay with me at my hotel for 2-3 days at a time, some coming from as far as downtown ShenZhen at their own expense. Another did my laundry in my hotel room while I went to work. Is this normal? I have been very clear to them that I am not looking for a relationship and I go out to other places and mess around when they are not there. Seems weird to me. Never asks me for a cent or for a gift.
Jett,
I don't know if you own your own apartment or not. But if you do, you could end up buying some insulation to have them install it on all the walls. I have a friend in Shanghai who walled up all the walls with insulation and changed all the windows to double pane glass. It makes the house a lot more comfortable. The fact that all the windows in China are a bit crappy and thin doesn't help with insulating your place as well. I guess their thinking is that for 2-3 months of inconvenience they aren't going to bother to build anything "great."
Let's hope it doesn't get so cold that you have to end up putting newspaper on your windows to stay warm.
I prefer CP's March-April Weather and Sept-October weather. It's warm, but not HOT and sticky, cool enough to go out without sweating too much! And not cold where you need to wear a jacket.
AsnDragon.
AS FOR THE COLD. I agree, it's freezing. The Chinese need to learn new construction techniques that involve something called "INSULATION". My apartment, is just concret, from inside and out. So in other words, when the winter comes, my building becomes what's called an ice box. Sometimes it's warmer outside than inside, because concrete retains the cold and doesn't let it go. So I chill in my ice box.
My space heater sucks because while it works in the 10 foot vicinity, the remainder of the place is "f'and" freezing. Ugh.
It's not a great time to come in terms of weather (Dec / Jan). March is great.
-J
Sky,
You got a girl you can recommend to me that has great BBBJCIM skills? I would love to at least have that experience once. The one thing is, I don't enjoy the fake moans that Sauna girls make when they give you a BJ. It's just sounds too fake. Sometimes it even interferes with the actual physical enjoyment of the BJ when you hear their fake moans and louder than normal slurping noises.
AsnDragon.
AD,
I couldn't agree with you more about having something more than "a hot babe in bed", maybe I am getting old as well. I think one issue I have with the BBBJTCCIM is that at my current position in the time line of life, I don't recover as quickly as I used to, so I know that I need to make every "shot" count! Not that a really good BJ is a waste, but if I am with some hot little number that won't be around long enough for round 2 (or 3) then I want to experience as much of her as possible. I tend to try and extend the session to include a few different "vantage points". My experience is that oral stimulation is one of the first things on the list, so if I finish then it is game over. Now with something more of a long term nature this is not an issue, since I know that I have had / will have more opportunities. I have one long term gal that absolutely refuses to let me go without draining me dry, and after she has completed her quest, she is always smiling at me as she heads for the bathroom to spit. I think it is to remind me of what I have with her and to delay as long as possible my need for female companionship. Can't blame her for trying. With her (and a few others) , since I know that there will be a next time it is easier to give into the sensation. There is one caveat, when I have encountered a gal that won't let me CIM, if I am interested, it now becomes a "thing" to get her to give in. I don't think I have ever not warned a gal, that would be rude, unless of course I know they don't care. I have however waited to last possible moment hoping that they wouldn't pull off in the heat of passion. This has met with limited success. A few have been pleasantly surprised, most have withdrawn gracefully, and a couple have been really pissed and just stopped everything! I will say this, when you find a gal that loves giving oral as much as they do receiving, it can be magical. Lay back, relax, and let it flow. They seem to be in tune with what is necessary and enjoy the "power" they have over you for a few minutes.
Dan Hawaii
11-23-11, 08:25
I've been here for months waiting your arrival and you come just as I'm leaving! Haha. No worries Dan. We'll see you next time I'm sure. But I'm out early December until early spring. I'm sure you won't be that sad. OR LONELY.
As for BT. Haven't seen him for ages. He's sort of here. Alot and then MIA. Most guys linger. They leave here and you see them pop up on the board. Often times, I remember the guys but not their handles, so I can't put their handles to the face!
Have a good time. You coming solo or with your crew?
-JettHi Jett.
I was going to come solo. But the key word is "was". My window of opportunity got shut down. It was mostly because of flights being full due to the fact I would be flying around during Christmas and new years. Plus I'm booking so late, most of the flights were sold out and I was only able to use Philippines airlines to book my escape. Shit, wish I could have made it.
Hopefully next year. Really tired of being incarcerated. If you know what I mean. Wish I could stay for 1 month and hang out with you and your crew, would be fun to learn 10% of what you know.
I'll be in Saigon, Ho chi Minh, Vietnam from dec 10 to jan 4 and then off to Manila for 3 days before I head back home.
Anybody going to be around those areas, pm me. But in Vietnam, we plan on going to Bangkok and Cambodia. Not sure the schedule, not booked yet. Don't get to envious, because mongering in those places going to be very very limited to how well I can bullshit myself out of the twine of things, if you know what I mean.
Have a safe trip home, Jett.
Dan Hawaii
11-23-11, 08:38
Anybody been to goodview lately. That place was magical 3 years back. Had 2 of my top 5 favorite girls from there. Flower street was awesome, over 800 girls, going with VIPs. 5 star everything. Miss it.
Wow, also heard amazon opened up again. I remembered going to CP for the very first time (1997, I was only 27) and going to amazon and lion KTV. But amazon was by far the better one. Flower street was 4 rows down a very long street. And in 30 minutes, poof, all 500 girls gone.
I guess, the feelig of Being a virgin to any flower street, priceless.
WTF, it's still priceless. Hahaha.
So want to go to CP.
Dan Hawaii
11-23-11, 08:52
Sky,
You got a girl you can recommend to me that has great BBBJCIM skills? I would love to at least have that experience once. The one thing is, I don't enjoy the fake moans that Sauna girls make when they give you a BJ. It's just sounds too fake. Sometimes it even interferes with the actual physical enjoyment of the BJ when you hear their fake moans and louder than normal slurping noises.
AsnDragon.In the wrong forum, but just went to Sydney where all this is legal. There's this place called stiletto's, had a very hot, tall strawberry blonde. 28 year old, almost made me cum by BBBJ, I had to stop her. She was hot, like 10 in the looks and body department and attitude. She looked like she came straight out of a model magazine. So hot. From new Zealand. Bit expensive too, $350 USD for 1 hour.
Service was a 6, if you compare it with CP saunas.
ManonsanBoy
11-23-11, 11:47
Anybody been to goodview lately. That place was magical 3 years back. Had 2 of my top 5 favorite girls from there. Flower street was awesome, over 800 girls, going with VIPs. 5 star everything. Miss it.
CP.Goodview is not good right now. Was there last week
DGinf,
Freebies come by once in a while. Sure, most girls if they really like you are willing to put forth some effort and not ask for anything in return. But as they say, it's either you pay now or you pay later, in the end you will end up paying. If the freebies you talked about are Non-working girls, then perhaps they really do like you a lot. If they are working girls- they most likely are hoping that you will reward them later on with gifts etc.
In China, even if you make it completely clear that you do NOT want a relationship, this statement just goes in one ear and slips out the other. In their minds, NO just means=No not right now. Most of these girls are hoping that they can change your mind or heart.
I would always suggest that with any WG, that you pay them for their time or give them a gift for their time. Most of them have pretty hard lives and by sparing a bit of "kindness" in a form of a gift or money would be appropriate. It also makes the line much more clear. The worst is to unintentionally lead on a girl. As in any country, girls, when I love with a man, can end up doing crazy things.
Happy mongering! Houjie is kind of dead these days. Fairly spread out and not much action besides KTV and Saunas.
AsnDragon.AsnDragon,
Thanks for the response / advice, yeah these are WGs. All of them from KTVs. Haven't really had time to pursue outside of that area haha. Well these girls never ask but I always end up giving them
Outside of Houjie, I'm not that familiar but I am very familiar with the locations that are open there. KTVs as I have posted before are kind of bad in Houjie imo. Tons of quantity but severely lacking in quality. I went to a place in ShenZhen that completely takes it to a new level but it was the kind of place you go twice maybe 3 times a year due to cost. (Sheng Feili Jun Yue Club but be warned 800-1000 to sit. 5 for overnight and I went with locals so they didn't jack up the price on me)
If anyone has any leads to fun places outside of Sheraton sauna and guoji sauna, please do share!
DGinf
Hi, Its been a few years since I've been in CP. I have a trip planned for April next (fair time).
I'm going to book my Hotel soon but I'm not sure which hotel is in the best part of CP for BBS and Sauna!
I've stayed in the Miraton and the Hui Hua which are next door to each other and had a great time with some BBS and Virgin sauna nearby.
I see a lot more reports about the Swan Lake road where the Clipper hotel is located, so I wonder would it be a better area to stay for good BBS in walking distance to the hotel?
Thanks.
Jettsetter
11-24-11, 01:36
Hi, Its been a few years since I've been in CP. I have a trip planned for April next (fair time).
I'm going to book my Hotel soon but I'm not sure which hotel is in the best part of CP for BBS and Sauna!
I've stayed in the Miraton and the Hui Hua which are next door to each other and had a great time with some BBS and Virgin sauna nearby.
I see a lot more reports about the Swan Lake road where the Clipper hotel is located, so I wonder would it be a better area to stay for good BBS in walking distance to the hotel?
Thanks.For BBS. Swan Lake Road. Which has three major hotels is the best place to stay.
Swan Lake Hotel. Cheaper than Clipper. Like 260-280 RMB or so but I'm not up to date since I have an apartment here. (double check with more regulars). Nice rooms, but there's an old and new section, so others will have ot chime in on where to stay.
Clipper. Around 300 RMB (free breakfast). I like it, it's my preferred hotel in that area. Beds are comfy, rooms are fairly modern and nice.
Manhattan hotel. Personally never seen the rooms and don't know the price, but I've heard the rooms are not that great. They're all white, that's all I know? But people who have stayed there weren't impressed.
Cheaper options. There's a hotel across from Manhattan. Chinese hotel. Kinda dumpy for my standards.
Manhattan also has guest suites that you can rent, I think it's sub 200 rmb. Never stayed there, but I think you can also rent hourly rooms for 100 RMB there.
In terms of Saunas, most saunas are where major hotels are at. The only good sauna I know of on Swan Lake Road is Mei Bao.and you need an introduction to get in. Can't really just walk in without some sort of reservation. Easy. Ask BSD. He has contacts.
Other saunas I like are Virgin, HH, Yihao and Eurasia. Not really close together, so you're better off staying close to the BBS's.
I personally haven't taken a BBS girl in at least a year.
- my last experience. Not good. Too mechanical and quick.
-Jett
Jettsetter
11-24-11, 01:52
Hi Jett.
I was going to come solo. But the key word is "was". My window of opportunity got shut down. It was mostly because of flights being full due to the fact I would be flying around during Christmas and new years. Plus I'm booking so late, most of the flights were sold out and I was only able to use Philippines airlines to book my escape. Shit, wish I could have made it.
Hopefully next year. Really tired of being incarcerated. If you know what I mean. Wish I could stay for 1 month and hang out with you and your crew, would be fun to learn 10% of what you know.
I'll be in Saigon, Ho chi Minh, Vietnam from dec 10 to jan 4 and then off to Manila for 3 days before I head back home.
Anybody going to be around those areas, pm me. But in Vietnam, we plan on going to Bangkok and Cambodia. Not sure the schedule, not booked yet. Don't get to envious, because mongering in those places going to be very very limited to how well I can bullshit myself out of the twine of things, if you know what I mean.
Have a safe trip home, Jett.Sorry for the non DG discussion boys:
Dan,
You won't be completely dry. There's plenty of places in HCMC. If you need contacts, let me know. I have some local friends that are awesome. (make sure you get your visa. I was a little confused about you being in vietnam and going to Bangkok and Cambodia- but I figure you mean you're going from Vietnam to those places. But just be sure you have multiple entry visas to get back into Vietnam (pain in the ass!).
In Manila. Go to MAkati and pick up some local girls or go to P. Buress street (sp?). If you really want some quick fun. Do a fishbowl style of MP. At Air Force One. Very close to the airport. It's got two levels of fishbowl girls. Lots of fun. Air force one is perfect for you in that you don't need your own room. They supply everything. Think of it as a sauna session. It's similar to Bangkok MP's.
And in BKK. Come on. That's the Land of Smiles. You got a ton of places to sneak away for an hour or two. My favorite. Is Catherine and La Defender. P. S. If you dare, look for a place called "Eden Club". Once you walk in you'll know why. It's crazy. Let's just say they have a line on the floor. On one side are girls who do anal and the other are girls who don't. (enuf said).
Back to DG Stuff:
Did an Yihao party last night with some cool guys from Canada, the States and Singapore. I know some don't enjoy as much, but the music livened people up. The beer flowed and the games were played. All in all a very good and fun and safe night. Quality of girls in the room were pretty good. Lots of fun and active girls. No incidents. Thanks BSD for another great event.
I will be honest though. The same stuff over and over again. Gets really boring. There's only so much of the dice game and only so much I can drink. Haha. I know, I'd rather have this problem than being in the states working with no outlet. So I am not complaining. Just saying, looking for other options for things to do is always a good thing. I saw that post about other places to check out. I think we should all make an effort to find additional outlets for fun (both dirty and not) and post our experiences.
Personally I've been doing lots of SZ. Partly because I have a GF there, but also because I'm starting to enjoy it alot more. Lots going on and feels like real life. I've found some better and better food in CP lately: top on my list are: 1) Japanese Curry and Sushi. Third floor of Japanese Food Village which is in the same building as PZL. Around the corner. 2) Korean BBQ. 1st floor of Peace Hotel. 3) Hui Hua Private Room Dining. This is one of the best places to get shrimp, fish, BBQ Pork (the best in the world in my opinon. Kobe style) and Peking Duck (in CP of course).4. DJ Taste. Easy and simple place to go for lunch, they do have an english menu. 5) Don Corleone's. For a taste of home.burger, pizzas, salads. Not bad. 6) Wave Pizza. Yes boys, there is a delivery pizza place that's not bad (not GREAT by any means) but not bad for delivery pizza in CP! 7) 8 Marketplace. Located across from Hua Ren (women's shopping center). BSD took me there and they have this italian chain place. For spaghetti and pizza. Super cheap. All you can drink sodas. Very impressed for the price. 8) Honeymoon Dessert. Yes the HK CHain is finally in CP. 9) McDonalds / KFC. I know. But hey you know you love it too. 10) Chinese BBQ. On either Swan Lake BBQ Street or An LIang. Behind Lucky Hotel. You want to impress a girl. Show her you love Chinese BBQ.
Okay. That's it for food. Activities? (NOT DIRTY VERSION)
1. DVD Shopping. It's like going to Costco for me. Can't get enough. 2. Footies. Again, can't get enough. PZL is fun in groups but for a real massage. Yihao. 3. Watching my DVD's. 4. Go Karting. 5. Going to eat (see above) 6. Working out / playing basketball. Tough to organize but when we can. It's fun. 7. Golf (rarely get to do, but weather is much better now, so it's more fun).8. Is there time for anything else?
-Jett
Member #3454
11-24-11, 05:21
So, yesterday I went to Meibao and stayed overnight. Nothing much for me to report about. Still plenty of girls to choose from. In my opinion Meibao has the biggest selection of Sauna girls in CP. This #12 gave me oral for about 30 minutes, couldn't get me to cum. If I don't get the right positions, right strokes, it just doesn't do it for me. Couldn't complaint as she is really trying hard. Her skill is pretty decent, no teething / all mouth, but I am the type of person which need a LOT of stimulation to get off. One thing I don't like is she sees my ipad and ask if she can play games on it. Fucking hell, she end up focusing more on the games than me! I think she did about 1 hour service and another hour on ipad! Come to think of it, I should let her play on ipad while I fuck her from behind, that will be epic! After the hours ended, she went off to pay my bill. 5 mins later, she came back in my room just to play more games! WTF! Hilarious!
Overall I enjoy her company, don't mind if she plays, as I agreed first. It was fun watching her innocent look while playing on ipad. She did her job well and I got my happy ending. Who cares about the rest of the services if they were only half completed? It is the same shit old routine anyways.
5 feet 2 inches.
Skinny
A sized breasts.
Long curly hair.
Cute face.
LOOKS: 8/10.
BJ: 7/10.
DAMAGE: 600
Pointpanic
11-24-11, 14:21
Great summary Jett,
You must mean Burgos Street in Manila. Hope to see you and SEAJoe when I drop in for three days on the 5-8th in Dec. At the Clipper.
Point.
Sorry for the non DG discussion boys:
Dan,
You won't be completely dry. There's plenty of places in HCMC. If you need contacts, let me know. I have some local friends that are awesome. (make sure you get your visa. I was a little confused about you being in vietnam and going to Bangkok and Cambodia- but I figure you mean you're going from Vietnam to those places. But just be sure you have multiple entry visas to get back into Vietnam (pain in the ass!).
In Manila. Go to MAkati and pick up some local girls or go to P. Buress street (sp?). If you really want some quick fun. Do a fishbowl style of MP. At Air Force One. Very close to the airport. It's got two levels of fishbowl girls. Lots of fun. Air force one is perfect for you in that you don't need your own room. They supply everything. Think of it as a sauna session. It's similar to Bangkok MP's.
And in BKK. Come on. That's the Land of Smiles. You got a ton of places to sneak away for an hour or two. My favorite. Is Catherine and La Defender. P. S. If you dare, look for a place called "Eden Club". Once you walk in you'll know why. It's crazy. Let's just say they have a line on the floor. On one side are girls who do anal and the other are girls who don't. (enuf said).
Back to DG Stuff:
Did an Yihao party last night with some cool guys from Canada, the States and Singapore. I know some don't enjoy as much, but the music livened people up. The beer flowed and the games were played. All in all a very good and fun and safe night. Quality of girls in the room were pretty good. Lots of fun and active girls. No incidents. Thanks BSD for another great event.
I will be honest though. The same stuff over and over again. Gets really boring. There's only so much of the dice game and only so much I can drink. Haha. I know, I'd rather have this problem than being in the states working with no outlet. So I am not complaining. Just saying, looking for other options for things to do is always a good thing. I saw that post about other places to check out. I think we should all make an effort to find additional outlets for fun (both dirty and not) and post our experiences.
Okay. That's it for food. Activities? (NOT DIRTY VERSION)
1. DVD Shopping. It's like going to Costco for me. Can't get enough. 2. Footies. Again, can't get enough. PZL is fun in groups but for a real massage. Yihao. 3. Watching my DVD's. 4. Go Karting. 5. Going to eat (see above) 6. Working out / playing basketball. Tough to organize but when we can. It's fun. 7. Golf (rarely get to do, but weather is much better now, so it's more fun).8. Is there time for anything else?
-Jett
Goodview is not good right now. Was there last weekWhat is wrong with it?
I'll arrive to Goodview in less than 24h.
AF
Hi Shuih,
I'll be visiting dongguan next week and it will be my 1st visit. I'll be staying at sheraton dongguan. I do have a few advise and help from you. How far is meibao hotel from my hotel? Can I just straight walk into the sauna?
So, yesterday I went to Meibao and stayed overnight. Nothing much for me to report about. Still plenty of girls to choose from. In my opinion Meibao has the biggest selection of Sauna girls in CP. This #12 gave me oral for about 30 minutes, couldn't get me to cum. If I don't get the right positions, right strokes, it just doesn't do it for me. Couldn't complaint as she is really trying hard. Her skill is pretty decent, no teething / all mouth, but I am the type of person which need a LOT of stimulation to get off. One thing I don't like is she sees my ipad and ask if she can play games on it. Fucking hell, she end up focusing more on the games than me! I think she did about 1 hour service and another hour on ipad! Come to think of it, I should let her play on ipad while I fuck her from behind, that will be epic! After the hours ended, she went off to pay my bill. 5 mins later, she came back in my room just to play more games! WTF! Hilarious!
Overall I enjoy her company, don't mind if she plays, as I agreed first. It was fun watching her innocent look while playing on ipad. She did her job well and I got my happy ending. Who cares about the rest of the services if they were only half completed? It is the same shit old routine anyways.
5 feet 2 inches.
Skinny
A sized breasts.
Long curly hair.
Cute face.
LOOKS: 8/10.
BJ: 7/10.
DAMAGE: 600
I will be traveling to dongguan next week and it will be my first trip there. Need help to find a good sauna near the hotel that I'm staying.
Hi DGinf,
I will be at Sheraton houjie next week, is the sauna at Sheraton hotel fun? Are the girls nice? Or where I can get a good sauna with nice girls at houjie area?
I'll be 1 person so don't think will go KTV just need to fin a a good place for drinks at night which for sure must have a lot of girls.
AsnDragon,
Thanks for the response / advice, yeah these are WGs. All of them from KTVs. Haven't really had time to pursue outside of that area haha. Well these girls never ask but I always end up giving them
Outside of Houjie, I'm not that familiar but I am very familiar with the locations that are open there. KTVs as I have posted before are kind of bad in Houjie imo. Tons of quantity but severely lacking in quality. I went to a place in ShenZhen that completely takes it to a new level but it was the kind of place you go twice maybe 3 times a year due to cost. (Sheng Feili Jun Yue Club but be warned 800-1000 to sit. 5 for overnight and I went with locals so they didn't jack up the price on me)
If anyone has any leads to fun places outside of Sheraton sauna and guoji sauna, please do share!
DGinf
As for Sheraton Sauna. It is one of the most well decorated Sauna rooms I have ever been in. There use to be an old wing and new wing of rooms. But the facility is rather nice. The only problem I had with it was the pricing was rather expensive.
I recall 800 Tips for a med range girl only. Girls there are not really all that great in quality as well. Not much selection in my personal opinion. But in Houjie, there's not much options out there. You could try the smaller hotels on the strip, where they have all the shops and restaurants. Most of them are 3-4 star quality hotels.
Does Cinese Hotel have a Sauna? It's been a while since I've been to Houjie.
AsnDragon.
Hi DGinf,
I will be at Sheraton houjie next week, is the sauna at Sheraton hotel fun? Are the girls nice? Or where I can get a good sauna with nice girls at houjie area?
I'll be 1 person so don't think will go KTV just need to fin a a good place for drinks at night which for sure must have a lot of girls.
Hi Gary5145,
Personally I prefer the sauna at HJ International (across the street). More selection, more variety and I think the service is better there.
If you want contact info of someone at Sheraton or HJ International just PM me. (They only speak Chinese though)
Drinking wise, I almost never go solo drinking so I'm not really sure where would be a good place to go. How long are you staying in Houjie?
DGinf.
Hi DGinf,
I will be at Sheraton houjie next week, is the sauna at Sheraton hotel fun? Are the girls nice? Or where I can get a good sauna with nice girls at houjie area?
I'll be 1 person so don't think will go KTV just need to fin a a good place for drinks at night which for sure must have a lot of girls.
Sardaukar1
11-25-11, 08:26
Here's something you can do about the prices at Sheraton Sauna:
There are 2 types of SN rooms at Sheraton. If you request for the cheaper room (located in the basement) , not only do you save on the room, you also get a 20% discount off the girl's tip.
Bet the mms didn't tell you that! Ha.
As for Sheraton Sauna. It is one of the most well decorated Sauna rooms I have ever been in. There use to be an old wing and new wing of rooms. But the facility is rather nice. The only problem I had with it was the pricing was rather expensive.
I recall 800 Tips for a med range girl only. Girls there are not really all that great in quality as well. Not much selection in my personal opinion. But in Houjie, there's not much options out there. You could try the smaller hotels on the strip, where they have all the shops and restaurants. Most of them are 3-4 star quality hotels.
Does Cinese Hotel have a Sauna? It's been a while since I've been to Houjie.
AsnDragon.
Sardaukar1
11-25-11, 08:27
DGinf, would you also say the girls at HJ International are generally prettier than those at Sheraton?
And what is the pricing structure at HJ International SN?
Hi Gary5145,
Personally I prefer the sauna at HJ International (across the street). More selection, more variety and I think the service is better there.
If you want contact info of someone at Sheraton or HJ International just PM me. (They only speak Chinese though)
Drinking wise, I almost never go solo drinking so I'm not really sure where would be a good place to go. How long are you staying in Houjie?
DGinf.
Hi DGinf,
I do speak a little of Chinese. Could you please pm me the contact for both Sheraton and HJ international. Another help needed is what will be the damage?
Hi Gary5145,
Personally I prefer the sauna at HJ International (across the street). More selection, more variety and I think the service is better there.
If you want contact info of someone at Sheraton or HJ International just PM me. (They only speak Chinese though)
Drinking wise, I almost never go solo drinking so I'm not really sure where would be a good place to go. How long are you staying in Houjie?
DGinf.
Hi Sardaukar1,
What will be the total damage for this sauna? RMB800?
Here's something you can do about the prices at Sheraton Sauna:
There are 2 types of SN rooms at Sheraton. If you request for the cheaper room (located in the basement) , not only do you save on the room, you also get a 20% discount off the girl's tip.
Bet the mms didn't tell you that! Ha.
Hi AsnDragon,
Do you have any recommendation apart from Sheraton sauna? Any other contact in houjie? I'll be in houjie for only 3days so would like to make full use of it.
As for Sheraton Sauna. It is one of the most well decorated Sauna rooms I have ever been in. There use to be an old wing and new wing of rooms. But the facility is rather nice. The only problem I had with it was the pricing was rather expensive.
I recall 800 Tips for a med range girl only. Girls there are not really all that great in quality as well. Not much selection in my personal opinion. But in Houjie, there's not much options out there. You could try the smaller hotels on the strip, where they have all the shops and restaurants. Most of them are 3-4 star quality hotels.
Does Cinese Hotel have a Sauna? It's been a while since I've been to Houjie.
AsnDragon.
Jettsetter,
Thanks for your reply about which hotel to stay in Changping.
I think it will be the Clipper I try this time. I'll get BSD to book it when I have my date.
Daft.
For BBS. Swan Lake Road. Which has three major hotels is the best place to stay.
Swan Lake Hotel. Cheaper than Clipper. Like 260-280 RMB or so but I'm not up to date since I have an apartment here. (double check with more regulars). Nice rooms, but there's an old and new section, so others will have ot chime in on where to stay.
Clipper. Around 300 RMB (free breakfast). I like it, it's my preferred hotel in that area. Beds are comfy, rooms are fairly modern and nice.
Manhattan hotel. Personally never seen the rooms and don't know the price, but I've heard the rooms are not that great. They're all white, that's all I know? But people who have stayed there weren't impressed.
Cheaper options. There's a hotel across from Manhattan. Chinese hotel. Kinda dumpy for my standards.
Manhattan also has guest suites that you can rent, I think it's sub 200 rmb. Never stayed there, but I think you can also rent hourly rooms for 100 RMB there.
In terms of Saunas, most saunas are where major hotels are at. The only good sauna I know of on Swan Lake Road is Mei Bao. And you need an introduction to get in. Can't really just walk in without some sort of reservation. Easy. Ask BSD. He has contacts.
Other saunas I like are Virgin, HH, Yihao and Eurasia. Not really close together, so you're better off staying close to the BBS's.
I personally haven't taken a BBS girl in at least a year.
- my last experience. Not good. Too mechanical and quick.
-Jett
Mr Enforcer
11-26-11, 03:01
Advice reaquired. I am a China newbie travelling solo to Shenzhen airport in May and will be staying only for 6 nights in that area, so I want to make the most of my short stay, then on to Bangkok afterwards. Just a few things I would like to know. I arrive at 8pm.
1 / Are there hotel shuttle buses that take you from Shenzhen airport to DG?
2 / I am 56 yo and travelling solo, would saunas be a better option than KTVs. Also I am not a big drinker. And what would be the all-up cost of FS in saunas in comparison to KTVs.
3 / Is the hotel Hui Hua OK. Clipper hotel sounds good as well. And do these hotels have English speaking staff?
4 / Is there a "red rope" type service available in either DG or Shenzhen?
5 / The coastline on the Dapeng peninsula (near Shenzhen) looks OK on Google. Being a beach boy of old. Is it worth spending a day there?
6 / For mongering. Is there much real difference between DG ans Shenzhen.
7 / For a sole male traveller, apart from the usual scammers and pickpockets, is there any real dangers?
I plan to have 2 nights in DG (first 2) then 4 in Shenzhen also trying to get to HK and Dapeng in that time. Is this a reasonable?
Any replies would be very much appreciated!
Thank you.
Hi guys,
Have been living sometime in Dongguan city and am looking for a buddy to hang out and be my wing man for mongering, I am not very active on the scene and kind of bored of hunting alone, leave me a message here so we can connect, I am 50 years old.
SE Asia Joe
11-26-11, 12:02
advice reaquired. i am a china newbie travelling solo to shenzhen airport in may and will be staying only for 6 nights in that area, so i want to make the most of my short stay, then on to bangkok afterwards. just a few things i would like to know. i arrive at 8pm.
1 / are there hotel shuttle buses that take you from shenzhen airport to dg?
2 / i am 56 yo and travelling solo, would saunas be a better option than ktvs. also i am not a big drinker. and what would be the all-up cost of fs in saunas in comparison to ktvs.
3 / is the hotel hui hua ok. clipper hotel sounds good as well. and do these hotels have english speaking staff?
4 / is there a "red rope" type service available in either dg or shenzhen?
5 / the coastline on the dapeng peninsula (near shenzhen) looks ok on google. being a beach boy of old. is it worth spending a day there?
6 / for mongering. is there much real difference between dg ans shenzhen.
7 / for a sole male traveller, apart from the usual scammers and pickpockets, is there any real dangers?
i plan to have 2 nights in dg (first 2) then 4 in shenzhen also trying to get to hk and dapeng in that time. is this a reasonable?
any replies would be very much appreciated!
thank you.let me take a stab at answering you. first thing first, you've got to get your bearings and distances correctly, and account for the slower driving speeds in china. dongguan city is at least 1-1/2 hours north from shenzhen airport. dgg city is about an hour away west from chang ping (where clipper / hui hua is at) , luohu in shenzhen is 30 minutes south from cp by the hi-speed train, an hour by car whilst dapeng is at least 70 minutes north east by car from luohu.
1. if there is, you'd need to pre-arrange with the hotel prior to arrival.
2. yup, you sound perfect for a sauna vs. ktv.
3. most hotels in china do have a few englsih speaking staff, but don't expect too much as english is just not all that popular. especially in southern china where they are more likely to learn cantonese i / o english.
4. red rope is now passe and had been disallowed from most saunas when there was an accident involving such use. you'd have to specifically ask for it and get lucky.
5. dapeng. or specifically nam o is where the supposed beach is but it is just a place with a lot of seafood restaurant. the closest to a "beach resort" is daimeisha and xiaomeishia just half an hour from shataoujia / yian tian. but if you're expecting a western type of beach experience, you'll be sorely disappointed. its deserted in the winter months and in the summer its choc-a-bloc with people just walking about in regular clothes with perhaps 5% actually going swimming in the worst / most conservative swim wear you could imagine from the 50's.
6. dongguan is way more open vs. shenzhen plus it is way cheaper. especially in chang ping and surrounds. plus i'd opine a lot more choice both interms of quality as well as quantity of gals, facilities and different classes etc.
7. southern china is generally safe if you take the usual precautions. but heading towards the chinese new year, you are going to see an increase in criminality, both petty as well as violent ones. i would not recommend you trying it alone as you're going to get lost with your language inability; you should come with an experienced wing man or else use the services of a good agent who will save you time, money, frustrations and most of all, keep you safer.
seaj
DGinf, would you also say the girls at HJ International are generally prettier than those at Sheraton?
And what is the pricing structure at HJ International SN?Yeah, I would say they are prettier at HJ but that is just my opinion. Also depending on the girl at Sheraton, some of them break out the bullshit jello candy thing to imitate their tongue (sorry girls, not quite the same and extremely obvious.)
HJ has 600, 700, 800, 1000, 1500, 2000 (rare) with an unavoidable room fee of $368.
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Your other post mentioned going to basement to avoid the room charge at Sheraton, what basement room? When was the last time you got that? The mamasan I know is in serious trouble if its recent! LOL.
I always have my own room at Sheraton but even if I had her send the girl up to my room she said the room charge still had to be there.
Mr Enforcer
11-27-11, 23:30
let me take a stab at answering you. first thing first, you've got to get your bearings and distances correctly, and account for the slower driving speeds in china. dongguan city is at least 1-1/2 hours north from shenzhen airport. dgg city is about an hour away west from chang ping (where clipper / hui hua is at) , luohu in shenzhen is 30 minutes south from cp by the hi-speed...seaj. many, many thanks for your detailed reply. much appreciated and very helpful.
Fast Eddie 48
11-28-11, 00:58
Advice reaquired. I am a China newbie travelling solo to Shenzhen airport in May and will be staying only for 6 nights in that area, so I want to make the most of my short stay, then on to Bangkok afterwards. Just a few things I would like to know. I arrive at 8pm.
1 / Are there hotel shuttle buses that take you from Shenzhen airport to DG?
2 / I am 56 yo and travelling solo, would saunas be a better option than KTVs. Also I am not a big drinker. And what would be the all-up cost of FS in saunas in comparison to KTVs.
3 / Is the hotel Hui Hua OK. Clipper hotel sounds good as well. And do these hotels have English speaking staff?
4 / Is there a "red rope" type service available in either DG or Shenzhen?
5 / The coastline on the Dapeng peninsula (near Shenzhen) looks OK on Google. Being a beach boy of old. Is it worth spending a day there?
6 / For mongering. Is there much real difference between DG ans Shenzhen.
7 / For a sole male traveller, apart from the usual scammers and pickpockets, is there any real dangers?
I plan to have 2 nights in DG (first 2) then 4 in Shenzhen also trying to get to HK and Dapeng in that time. Is this a reasonable?
Any replies would be very much appreciated!
Thank you.To Enforcer,
There are direct bus from shenzhen airport to Changping but only 3 day 8 pm I think is too late, if you go to Lowu bus station the last bus is 9. 30 pm so it will be wise to spend one night at Lowu and go to Changping in the morning by train, CP is a high crime city for newbie like you that don't know your way around becareful unless you are with a group of people you are better off spend a few day in shenzhen anyway.
Fast Eddie 48
Tangxia Hui Hua KTV is officially opened on 10th Sep 2011. The newest 5 Star Hotel / KTV in Tangxia Town.
Hostess strength is approximately 400 on weekdays and 500-600 on weekends. Majority of the hostesses are in the 3•8•12 (1. 63m above) category.
Clientle are mainly locals, Taiwanese, Singaporean, Japanese, Korean, etc.
Beverage prices are similar to Eurasia (Ou Ya) KTV.
Minimum Spending.
¥688/1188/1388/1688/2288/2688/2888/3288/3688/3888.
Hostess Category: 3•8•12/4•10•15/50•15•20.
DJ Category: ¥200 (Normal) /¥300 (VIP)
15% service charge by KTV
Sardaukar1
11-28-11, 08:46
[QUOTE=ISO 9000; 1221620Clientle are mainly locals, Taiwanese, Singaporean, Japanese, Korean, etc.[/QUOTE]Where are the HKers?
Sardaukar1
11-28-11, 21:48
Your other post mentioned going to basement to avoid the room charge at Sheraton, what basement room? When was the last time you got that? The mamasan I know is in serious trouble if its recent! LOL.
I always have my own room at Sheraton but even if I had her send the girl up to my room she said the room charge still had to be there.If you go back and re-read my former post, you'll see that I did NOT state that the entire room charge was waived and became free-of-charge. I said you will get the "CHEAPER room" if you request it.
I believe the cheaper room is 50rmb off the price of the standard room, but the real savings come from the 20% discount off the girl's tip. So if the girl is originally worth 1000rmb, you need pay her only 800.
Mr Enforcer
11-29-11, 08:14
To Enforcer,
There are direct bus from shenzhen airport to Changping but only 3 day 8 pm I think is too late, if you go to Lowu bus station the last bus is 9. 30 pm so it will be wise to spend one night at Lowu and go to Changping in the morning by train, CP is a high crime city for newbie like you that don't know your way around becareful unless you are with a group of people you are better off spend a few day in shenzhen anyway.
Fast Eddie 48Thanks Eddie. I may just go to Shenzhen first, then re-assess my plans from there.
Pointpanic
11-29-11, 22:46
Send him a private message. It will be worth it.
Point.
Thanks Eddie. I may just go to Shenzhen first, then re-assess my plans from there.
Cocaine Kid
12-01-11, 05:05
Dear BSD Dave, ASN Dragon, SE Asia Joe.
I'm a newbie who's trying to catch up with the action in CP.
But couldn't get started 'because all the key contact person in this.
Game has blocked their "Private Message". Please advise me.
From here. Thank you
SE Asia Joe
12-01-11, 09:23
Dear BSD Dave, ASN Dragon, SE Asia Joe.
I'm a newbie who's trying to catch up with the action in CP.
But couldn't get started 'because all the key contact person in this.
Game has blocked their "Private Message". Please advise me.
From here. Thank youOooops, I think its because we have not cleared out our PM boxes / reached the maximum allowed by the forum. That is the reason why you couldn't PM us.
I have cleared my mailbox and thus you should now be able to PM me (BSD / A Dragon. Clear out your pm boxes!)
Anyway, the important person for you to get a hold of is BS Dave as he will be the one who will be able to REALLY guide you. Please refer to his ad in the Classified section for all his contacts etc http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads&p=1202239&viewfull=1#post1202239
SEAJ
DGinf,
Freebies come by once in a while. Sure, most girls if they really like you are willing to put forth some effort and not ask for anything in return. But as they say, it's either you pay now or you pay later, in the end you will end up paying. If the freebies you talked about are Non-working girls, then perhaps they really do like you a lot. If they are working girls- they most likely are hoping that you will reward them later on with gifts etc.
In China, even if you make it completely clear that you do NOT want a relationship, this statement just goes in one ear and slips out the other. In their minds, NO just means=No not right now. Most of these girls are hoping that they can change your mind or heart.
I would always suggest that with any WG, that you pay them for their time or give them a gift for their time. Most of them have pretty hard lives and by sparing a bit of "kindness" in a form of a gift or money would be appropriate. It also makes the line much more clear. The worst is to unintentionally lead on a girl. As in any country, girls, when I love with a man, can end up doing crazy things.
Happy mongering! Houjie is kind of dead these days. Fairly spread out and not much action besides KTV and Saunas.
AsnDragon.Really like your comments, you do sound like an old hand, remember one of good quotes that I heard in CP," you pay them to leave but come" which I guess every mongerer should be reminding themsevles.
StinkyFeet
12-03-11, 20:09
Long time have not reported since I have not been able to visit China for a long time. I am chatting to a former "model" class sheraton KTV girl and now she has moved over to changping. She says she is still doing the KTV thing, but mention that it is different then the houjie KTV job. She refuses to elaborate the "difference". So now she has peaked my interest. Is there a difference other then flower street?
ManonsanBoy
12-04-11, 18:38
Out of curosity, went to this faded sauna. The competition in Tangxia is brutal and there is only so much business to go around. Shown to a rennovated room on second floor which was better than the ground floor usual. Picked a slighly chunky big tits 21 year old from Chung Ching with a big smile and eye contact from a line up of 12. Steam room first; Golden Island has the best in Tangxia, a real plus in the competition for customers. If you are into this, go there. It is by far the steamiest and you sit on a wooden stool as the steam engul you. There is also an overhead shower. Simply fantastic and open the skin pores right up. Even better with young lady on your lap and you trying to slip di di in where it is looking but no, no. Just a playful bj for a few mins. Emerged fully steamed, pink and with the dirt of china out of my pores. Followed by an expert scrub down and wash. Tits on your face treatment followed but this time, she said "suck my nipples", which immediately gave me a hard on. She dispensed with the usual routine and licked my balls there and then and deep throated me. What followed was the best BJ ever and I CIM without her laying a hand on my di di. Deep throat with a semi swollowing action followed by suction. All this still in the bathroom on the water bed. Shower and dried. She gave me a massage on the bed which was competent; she even massaged my feet well. She used to work in a real massage place but got sick of earning 100 rmb for a 12 hour day and ending up with sore hands. Di di revived and DATY followed by all positions sex (she moaned and moaned, saying she was horny after being off for a week). She again deep throated me and another CIM whilst I enjoyed her moist pussy in a 69. All in all, the best sauna session I have had since 1999. Showered and left the place very happy with world. Room was 18 (that's right: 18) but the girl was 700. Just marketing juggling. I tipped her 200 on top and booked her next week.
Fun with Colour
12-05-11, 10:55
Hey guys,
I am staying 1 night in Humen Town this Wednesday. Any advise on where to stay, and whats available.
I am a newbie so any help appreciated.
Already planning a trip to tangxia. Couple questions though. Anyone know if there's a direct bus there from zhuhai? How does one find golden island once in tangxia? Tangxia have anything to offer besides saunas and, I pressume, ktvs? Like SW's, bbs, dirty and clean massage.
Also thinking of going back to CP in a couple days. My problem is that the mamasans near hui mei / jia mei think they know me so well now that they can just send girls up to my room every night whether I want it or not. Takes a lot of time to get them to leave, don't want to go through that when I'm there to relax. Thinking of going to stay at the clipper or somewhere nearby. Never been to that side of town. Can't seem to find the location of the clipper on google map or search though. Can anyone help me with that? Normally I'd just hop into a taxi and say the hotel name but I doubt the taxi drivers will get "the clipper".
Sardaukar1
12-06-11, 08:38
hui mei / jia mei think they know me so well now that they can just send girls up to my room every night whether I want it or not.How do they know which room you're staying at if you don't tell them in the first place?
Mit Fo Lfe
12-06-11, 11:01
Already planning a trip to tangxia. Couple questions though. Anyone know if there's a direct bus there from zhuhai? How does one find golden island once in tangxia? Tangxia have anything to offer besides saunas and, I pressume, ktvs? Like SW's, bbs, dirty and clean massage.
Also thinking of going back to CP in a couple days. My problem is that the mamasans near hui mei / jia mei think they know me so well now that they can just send girls up to my room every night whether I want it or not. Takes a lot of time to get them to leave, don't want to go through that when I'm there to relax. Thinking of going to stay at the clipper or somewhere nearby. Never been to that side of town. Can't seem to find the location of the clipper on google map or search though. Can anyone help me with that? Normally I'd just hop into a taxi and say the hotel name but I doubt the taxi drivers will get "the clipper".Tell the taxi cab driver to take you to fan chuan jiu dian.
How do they know which room you're staying at if you don't tell them in the first place?Because the girls will tell them. I've heard mamasan ask the girl over the phone once. Very loud voice, I was at least 5 feet away from the girl and I didn't miss a word she was saying from the other end. I guess I could not get a girl and then they'll never know. But why am I going to CP then LOL.
Tell the taxi cab driver to take you to fan chuan jiu dian.Thank you mit fo lfe. Amazing how the clipper hotel can't be found with google map but fan chuan hotel can and shows up as the clipper hotel! Grrr
Gents,
I have a last-minute opportunity to come to Changping for two days, and of course I am 100% unprepared. It seems the simplest thing I can do is stay in the Hui Hua hotel, so I will attempt to reserve there. Are there any group activities in the next couple (Thursday or Friday nights, Dec 8 or 9th) of days that I might join in on?
I'm sure I can RTFF and figure some stuff out, and will do so as time permits. Any other immediate advice would be more than appreciated, particularly on the costs and logistics of meet-ups.
Thanks,
LM
Pointpanic
12-08-11, 01:36
Sorry leaving today but a few other regulars might still be around. Huihua is okay if you haven't spent much time here, but many of us prefer to stay at the Clipper for greater or rather quicker access to fun. Great to meet some of you at Ou Ya (Eurasia) the other night and thank you Joe for hanging around to see me.
Point.
Gents,
I have a last-minute opportunity to come to Changping for two days, and of course I am 100% unprepared. It seems the simplest thing I can do is stay in the Hui Hua hotel, so I will attempt to reserve there. Are there any group activities in the next couple (Thursday or Friday nights, Dec 8 or 9th) of days that I might join in on?
I'm sure I can RTFF and figure some stuff out, and will do so as time permits. Any other immediate advice would be more than appreciated, particularly on the costs and logistics of meet-ups.
Thanks,
LM
Gents,
I have a last-minute opportunity to come to Changping for two days, and of course I am 100% unprepared. It seems the simplest thing I can do is stay in the Hui Hua hotel, so I will attempt to reserve there. Are there any group activities in the next couple (Thursday or Friday nights, Dec 8 or 9th) of days that I might join in on?
I'm sure I can RTFF and figure some stuff out, and will do so as time permits. Any other immediate advice would be more than appreciated, particularly on the costs and logistics of meet-ups.
Thanks,
LMI hear Xiong Shi &38596; &29422; is running a special RMB 160 / nite (lodging). It's in the middle of everywhere, walking dinner to fuhao. 10mins cab ride to the swan lake street, and you can get HJ massage from their massage parlor. I have never stayed there, so not sure of the room quality.
Cheers,
Staid
I hear Xiong Shi &38596; &29422; is running a special RMB 160 / nite (lodging). It's in the middle of everywhere, walking distanceto fuhao. 10mins cab ride to the swan lake street, and you can get HJ massage from their massage parlor. I have never stayed there, so not sure of the room quality.
Cheers,
StaidI meant walking distance, not dinner.
For those of you veterans out there. I may be taking a business trip to China in January or February. I know Chinese New Year is January 23. So about when does everyone starting bailing out and about when does everyone generally return? Also, is it better for me to go before CNY or after? I will probably only be able to go to CP for a few days but I want to make the most of my short stay.
Thanks.
I'll be there 2/13. Hope to see you there.
LAMonkey
For those of you veterans out there. I may be taking a business trip to China in January or February. I know Chinese New Year is January 23. So about when does everyone starting bailing out and about when does everyone generally return? Also, is it better for me to go before CNY or after? I will probably only be able to go to CP for a few days but I want to make the most of my short stay.
Thanks.
Mit Fo Lfe
12-10-11, 03:09
For those of you veterans out there. I may be taking a business trip to China in January or February. I know Chinese New Year is January 23. So about when does everyone starting bailing out and about when does everyone generally return? Also, is it better for me to go before CNY or after? I will probably only be able to go to CP for a few days but I want to make the most of my short stay.
Thanks.Push your trip out to early mar! I fly out on 3/1
ManonsanBoy
12-16-11, 21:12
already planning a trip to tangxia. couple questions though. anyone know if there's a direct bus there from zhuhai? how does one find golden island once in tangxia? tangxia have anything to offer besides saunas and, i pressume, ktvs? like sw's, bbs, dirty and clean massage.golden island is unfortunately in middle of nowhere although it is on the main road from fenggang to tangxia. most taxis will know where it is because it has a popular disco and ktv but i think it is mostly local and taiwanese. bbs are rep001tered and not always obvious. the current new kid on the block is the tangxia hui wa hotel, about 10 mins from town center. there is the usual hui wah ktv, sauna set up. the hotel is ok too but now is over 400 for a room compared to 268 at soft launch.
Fast Eddie 48
12-16-11, 22:57
golden island is unfortunately in middle of nowhere although it is on the main road from fenggang to tangxia. most taxis will know where it is because it has a popular disco and ktv but i think it is mostly local and taiwanese. bbs are rep001tered and not always obvious. the current new kid on the block is the tangxia hui wa hotel, about 10 mins from town center. there is the usual hui wah ktv, sauna set up. the hotel is ok too but now is over 400 for a room compared to 268 at soft launch.to manonsan / ilikepie.
tangxia have alot of factory own by hk businessman most ktv and sauna are cater to them, no many monger go there just for the sauna yes there are direct bus from shenzhen go there only one hr trip most hotel are nice 4 star.
fast eddie 48
manonsanboy,
i was actually just at golden island sauna last week. the only problem is that they are on lock down mode these days. the owner of golden island is also an owner at golden lake hotel across the street. recently something happened and the owner got into a bit of trouble. as a result, the sauna is very cautious about who they cater to these days. the front desk is all pitch dark. i had to enter in through the restaurant side.
there are no shows unless there are 5 or more customers. in addition, their shows are no longer nude, nor uniform runway shows. they are fully street clothing runway shows. which is really quite useless. it's better to just call them into your room and view them in person.
i also got a dongbei girl this trip. not chunky, but quite skinny and tall around 165 cm. she's been in this line of work for a while already. use to be a mommie assistant at sangem hotel, but quit to become a sauna girl as her ability to down alcohol was wearing down on her health. forgot her number, but she was in the 700 category and a 18 rmb room fee, which isn't a room fee, it's called a "clean up fee."
but they didn't have many girls working. with them all wearing their street clothes and not even in uniform it really put a damper on things. made me appreciate cp's ability to still operate regardless of most problems or crackdowns going on.
asndragon.
golden island is unfortunately in middle of nowhere although it is on the main road from fenggang to tangxia. most taxis will know where it is because it has a popular disco and ktv but i think it is mostly local and taiwanese. bbs are rep001tered and not always obvious. the current new kid on the block is the tangxia hui wa hotel, about 10 mins from town center. there is the usual hui wah ktv, sauna set up. the hotel is ok too but now is over 400 for a room compared to 268 at soft launch.
Lion Hotel Sauna is an interesting venue. It is owned by the owner of Meibao Sauna at Swan Lake road. The service at Lion is even better than Meibao. However, the quanity of girls and quality is not as good though. The interesting thing is Lion Hotel Sauna called (Xin Mei) has different rooms for you to choose from. They have KTV rooms, Bar Rooms, Honeymoon rooms, regular room, office rooms. These different rooms are to cater to customers fantasies of doing a girl in different environments. KTV rooms just have couches and Bar rooms don't even have a bed you have to do your girl standing up. Office room is for you to just do your girl on the desk. They whole room environment is to compliment the uniforms the girls where. Office uniform would give you the feel of doing your coworker secretary etc.
It's a creative twist to the whole sauna game. I'm not a big fan of it, but I do compliment them for their effort in innovating and bringing something new to the sauna game than just the regular routine of things.
Girl quantity on any given days these days is only about 30-50 girls. Most rooms have been newly renovated so it feels cleaner than Meibao.
Pricing for girls, inclusive of room fees, is 400, 500, 600, 650. 650 is the top model grade at XinMei, cheaper than Meibao's 700 modle grade girls.
AsnDragon
Hui Hua use to be one of the higher end saunas. You usually find more elegant and taller looking girls here. In addition, you can also find Korean girls as well if you are interested in that. Personally, I come to China for China girls. I don't come to China to find Korean Girls, if I wanted Korean girls I could get them in the States, Canada, etc.
Anyhow, Hui Hua Sauna really needs to update their routine as well as some of their facility.
Facility- although there are newly renovated rooms, the fact that they have every girl bring in a portable DVD player into each rooms and need to plug it into the TV to play a porno DVD to do their dance routine at the beginning of the session is laughable! I mean most TVs in all Saunas these days are linked with universal channels which they can control from a central command- eliminating the need to bring in a bulky DVD player and having each girl plug it in each time.
Routine- Hui Hua has not really improved on their routine. If anything, their routine is so old school Sauna techniques from back 7-8 years ago. While Virgin, Meibao, Xin Mei, even Manhattan Saunas have added or improved their routine with new moves. Techniques and also laydown wash beds to perform new techniques, I find that Hui Hua is in this time warp, where they are not improving at all.
Attitude and Service- Although I had number 689 (I think that's her number) 5 feet 5 inches from Yunan, even though she's actually from Jiangsu after talking to her for a while longer, and her service was average. My friend had a horrible time with his girl. My girl actually revealed to me that many of the girls working there are quite devious- crying on purpose to get bigger tips, telling sympathy stories and trying to milk customers of more money and tips. In the case of my friend, he got out one pop with his girl and then she just fell asleep afterwards. She completely fell asleep and did not perform any more routine, moves or duties. I think it was done on purpose to see if she could get away with not doing her full routine. Needless to say, my friend was mad! My girl's service was average at best. She was a bit older, really nice body but her face really showed her age. I didn't realize how old she was until I got a closer look after I picked her. But my session seemed too mechanical, and her moves and technique was far worse than other sauna in CP.
Hui Mei really hasn't improved on their quality. The selection of girls were laughable as well. On a Friday at 4 pm, which is the shift where you have morning, middle and night shift girls all working at the same time, you should have tons of girls to choose from. But we were only shown 20 girls. And there weren't that many customers either, as my girls later revealed that there was hardly any customers that day for some reason. Now, I guess I know why.
AsnDragon
After the many years in CP, I realize that CP changed people for either the better or the worse- usually the for the worse.
Changes of Regular girls- I've seen Footie girls that came to CP years ago holding true to their principles of not selling their pride, their body for money. After years of struggle and seeing how their customers bring in girls who enjoy the wonders of life for just spreading their legs, it's hard for any girl to resist. Thus footie girls turning in WG. I've seen DJ's who initially became a DJ seeing that 200 RMB a day pouring drinks and cleaning up trash was much better than the 60 RMB that they had when they worked overtime at a run down factory. They then saw how customer bring in KTV girls and how these girls were no prettier than they were were getting the same if not more than they were for sitting there, enjoying themselves and being served by DJ's the whole entire night-thus DJ's becoming a WG for the hope of a better life.
Changes of Mongers- I've seen mongers who when first came to CP were so docile and quiet and polite, over the years turn into something completely different. As if their true self that was supressed for so long was unleashed and gradually become more confident, loud and even borderline rude to everyone around. Someone who use to be respectful of others, became a person who demanded respect from others. CP gives an illusion to mongers, that back in their hometown they are a zero, but in CP all of a sudden they are everyone's hero. Imagine coming into CP, a place where everyone kisses your feet, everyone calls you "lao ban" or boss. Everyone is dying to do anything for the money in your pocket, praising you and treating you as if you are the king of the universe to them, how can anyone not change? How can anyone not let this get to their head? How can anyone not feel great about themselves or feel more confident in themselves? Mongers save like crazy back home so that they can come and blink all of their money away in CP, because who would spend $80 USD on a high class meal back home when they could use that $60 for a Sauna Session or partying at a KTV?
But there's a dark side to all of this. I've seen girls who get lost in the game of being a WG. Something that they promised themselves they would never become, they became. Later when they told themselves that it would be temporary, it became long term and then it became something permanent. I've seen girls who never pulled out of being a WG when they should have who wither their youth away and become old and unwanted, stuck in a situation where they couldn't find a partner to marry because they were too old and couldn't work as a WG anymore because of their age. There are some girls who knew that all the customers that came to CP are not there looking for love, but looking for a variety of girls to sleep with, but somehow got caught up loving a customer who toyed with their emotions, love and gave them a false hope- hope that a prince charming would save them from their life of hardship. But in the end was dealt with nothing but a harsh and bitter reality that the man / customer they thought they loved, was only there to have fun. Countless years of youth withered away, because CP gives girls an opportunity where they can earn quick money for virtually opening up their legs because they are young. But one day their years of youth will be numbered and most girls cannot adjust to reality and break away from CP's illusions.
The dark side of CP applies to men as well. CP in some ways make men feel good about themselves. Sometimes CP makes mongers feel a bit too good about themselves that it borders into arrogance. The reality is that in CP, most if not all of what girls tell you or compliment you, you must take with a grain of salt. I've seen men get caught up with girls, believing that these beautiful girls, which they could never have gotten in back in their home country, are actually madly in love with them. The truth is, it's rare that a girl would truly love you. They may be in love with your money or the hope that you will support them financially, but actually loving you is a whole different story. When I write this, I'm sure there's going to be a sting of mongers that will reply and explain to me their story about how much a girl loved them and how they were willing to sacrifice this and that for them and do this and that without any mention of monetary gain. Sure those situations exists. But do you guys ever think that perhaps they are trying to reel you in for a bigger payoff? I've always said that when it comes to girls, it's either you pay now or you pay later. In fact I would be as daring to expand on my comment and state that "it's either you pay now, or MORE later." Many girls try to lure guys in, not for a 200-300 RMB payoff, but they know they can milk more money out of you later on with gifts, an iphone, or ipad, or something more expensive later on. I've seen many guys trapped by these WG, wanting a GFE feeling and taking them out to do this and that and in the end they just but only another sucker in the girl's trap. On the flip side, I've seen really nice and kind guys change in CP to really become big arrogant A*holes. Guys playing with girl's emotions for fun, making them fall in love with them and then dumping them once they have achieved their conquest. Luring them in with hopes of marrying them or bringing them and their family out of poverty, only to deliver empty promises to gain free sex.
The bottom line is that CP is all but an illusion. Yes, it feels good and feels real when you are here in CP. But we still need to differentiate in the end what is real and what is not so we are not sucked into CP so deeply that it's hard for us to climb back out again. Yes in CP people around you make you feel important. But it is NOT ok to be flamboyant or cocky, yelling at Mommies and managers and even girls. Because CP really is the wild wild west. Every girl, every mommie, ever manager or just some punk on the street could have a friend or cousins in the triad or gangs that could just come up to you on the street with a sharp metal pipe and end your life on the street while you are walking to your restaurant for lunch or footie session if you happen to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the wrong person. There are regular and reoccurring incidences of dead bodies lying in the gutters near or outside of New Century Hotel. In fact what you have to realize is that life in China is not worth all that much. 2 years ago in CP a HK monger had his throat slit in a convenient store- many people say it's related to the girl that he pissed off or dumped in CP. Even if someone killed you, most of the authorities would not even know where to catch the culprit, and even if they did catch the culprit, who cares, you're dead.
So my bottom line is, CP is a great place, but yet a very dangerous place at the same time. My advice to anyone is, don't lose yourself, and don't let the environment and the pleasures that CP has to offer get to your head. Be low key, don't attract attention, have fun and be courteous. Being loud, obnoxious, confrontational, arrogant may lead you to one of the many gutters of CP one day-injured if not dead. Don't get lose in the game or get in too deep that it's too difficult to pull out. CP afterall is only but an illusion. No, not every girl adores you and loves you, they are paid to pretend that they do. As real as you may think it is, just know in the back of your head that it's just make belief at best.
Happy Mongering.
AsnDragon
So my bottom line is, CP is a great place, but yet a very dangerous place at the same time. My advice to anyone is, don't lose yourself, and don't let the environment and the pleasures that CP has to offer get to your head. Be low key, don't attract attention, have fun and be courteous. Being loud, obnoxious, confrontational, arrogant may lead you to one of the many gutters of CP one day-injured if not dead. Don't get lose in the game or get in too deep that it's too difficult to pull out. CP afterall is only but an illusion. No, not every girl adores you and loves you, they are paid to pretend that they do. As real as you may think it is, just know in the back of your head that it's just make belief at best.Bro AsnDragon couldn't have said it any better.
CP after all is an adult Disneyland."Men's Paradise, Women's Bank"
Not just Men's Paradise but also Gangster Paradise. I've personally witnessed a bunch of thugs smashing a car with hammers in broad daylight! Not to mention the frequent street fights all around town.
To a beginner mongerer he may just come strictly for the sex activities during the first few trips. Then for subsequent trips it's more of the ego boosting effect that CP is able to facilitate so perfectly. Every man on the street feels that he's Andy Lau or Brad Pitt. Hehehe.
After the many years in CP, I realize that CP changed people for either the better or the worse- usually the for the worse.
(snip)
Happy Mongering.
AsnDragonAsnDragon. Totally appreciate your knowledge and perspective. I'm at a place where this resonates with me.
Korea is an interesting place as well, where the illusion over time, changes in a cruel way.
Young girls 18+ start our with the dream. Iconic beauty, wrapped in a gucci dress with pale skin and stiletto manolo blahniks. The lure of big money in places like room salons, especially the 10, fund the addiction to vogue.
As they age, maybe they cannot survive on looks alone. Some never can, and the high volume anma life kicks in, or the barber shop.
When they cannot survive it, some move on to other countries. Kept woman at the high end, massage girl at the other end. In a first world country.
When age really sets in, reality is tough. I have a friend who is nearing 50 and she's still working. Body of a 28-30 year old. Fabulous technique. Absolutely gorgeous face.
But there's only work for her. No family left. A few friends in the business, but three men she meets will never take her out of this existence. She drinks soju at night and cries herself to sleep at times.
SE Asia Joe
12-18-11, 04:36
After the many years in CP, I realize that CP changed people for either the better or the worse- usually the for the worse.
Changes of Mongers- I've seen mongers who when first came to CP were so docile and quiet and polite, over the years turn into something completely different. As if their true self that was supressed for so long was unleashed and gradually become more confident, loud and even borderline rude to everyone around. Someone who use to be respectful of others, became a person who demanded respect from others. CP gives an illusion to mongers, that.
The bottom line is that CP is all but an illusion. Yes, it feels good and feels real when you are here in CP. But we still need to differentiate in the end what is real and what is not so we are not sucked into CP so deeply that it's hard for us to climb back out again. Yes in CP people around you make you feel important. But it is NOT ok to be flamboyant or cocky, yelling at Mommies and managers and even girls. Because CP really is the wild wild west. Every girl, every mommie, ever manager or just some punk on the street could have a friend or cousins in the triad or gangs that could just come up to you on the street with a sharp metal pipe and end your life on the street while you are walking to your restaurant for lunch or footie session if you happen to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the wrong person. There are regular and reoccurring incidences of dead bodies lying in the gutters near or outside of New Century Hotel. In fact what you have to realize is that life in China is not worth all that much. 2 years ago in CP a HK monger had his throat slit in a convenient store- many people say it's related to the girl that he pissed off or dumped in CP. Even if someone killed you, most of the authorities would not even know where to catch the culprit, and even if they did catch the culprit, who cares, you're dead.
So my bottom line is, CP is a great place, but yet a very dangerous place at the same time. My advice to anyone is, don't lose yourself, and don't let the environment and the pleasures that CP has to offer get to your head. Be low key, don't attract attention, have fun and be courteous. Being loud, obnoxious, confrontational, arrogant may lead you to one of the many gutters of CP one day-injured if not dead. Don't get lose in the game or get in too deep that it's too difficult to pull out. CP afterall is only but an illusion. No, not every girl adores you and loves you, they are paid to pretend that they do. As real as you may think it is, just know in the back of your head that it's just make belief at best.
Happy Mongering.
AsnDragonAs usual, a very well thought out and insightful post from our sage. And of course resonates with the conversation he and I had last week.
Guys reading, PLEASE read that post again very carefully and try to discover that this probably applies to YOU!
Please re-examine yourselves.
AsnDragon and I did talk about this last week. And whilst we really cannot but just drop "hints" to you in person, I hope that you, whoever you are, take this as our fervent and heart felt BEST wishes for you to have a Merry Christmas AND a SAFE and prosperous New Year.
Regards.
SEAJ
The bottom line is that CP is all but an illusion. Yes, it feels good and feels real when you are here in CP. But we still need to differentiate in the end what is real and what is not so we are not sucked into CP so deeply that it's hard for us to climb back out again. Yes in CP people around you make you feel important. But it is NOT ok to be flamboyant or cocky, yelling at Mommies and managers and even girls. Because CP really is the wild wild west. Every girl, every mommie, ever manager or just some punk on the street could have a friend or cousins in the triad or gangs that could just come up to you on the street with a sharp metal pipe and end your life on the street while you are walking to your restaurant for lunch or footie session if you happen to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the wrong person. There are regular and reoccurring incidences of dead bodies lying in the gutters near or outside of New Century Hotel. In fact what you have to realize is that life in China is not worth all that much. 2 years ago in CP a HK monger had his throat slit in a convenient store- many people say it's related to the girl that he pissed off or dumped in CP. Even if someone killed you, most of the authorities would not even know where to catch the culprit, and even if they did catch the culprit, who cares, you're dead.
So my bottom line is, CP is a great place, but yet a very dangerous place at the same time. My advice to anyone is, don't lose yourself, and don't let the environment and the pleasures that CP has to offer get to your head. Be low key, don't attract attention, have fun and be courteous. Being loud, obnoxious, confrontational, arrogant may lead you to one of the many gutters of CP one day-injured if not dead. Don't get lose in the game or get in too deep that it's too difficult to pull out. CP afterall is only but an illusion. No, not every girl adores you and loves you, they are paid to pretend that they do. As real as you may think it is, just know in the back of your head that it's just make belief at best.
Happy Mongering.
AsnDragonI don't say this too often but this is an excellent post and a reminder that you are just a guest in China, so stop being a jerk!
Mmlouie
I can't agree more with AshDragon's summary on CP illusion. I was once enjoying playing gal emotion, but finally and fortunately discovered that this is too cruel to another human being; being young, a bit ok-looking, a bit cash and growing-up from better world don't give you any damn priviledge to hurt these country-side gals feeling on purpose, this is just not right. Anyone who is doing this should be ashameful of themsevles. After palying in CP for too long, people def got lost on some social principles, like "equal, polite, sympathy, and respect". I want to set up a big signage right at the entrance of CP town, like in vegas" welcome to CP" on the front, then "you can lose money but not yourself" on the back of signage, so people can remind themsevles when leaving the down, all for the next happy come-back trip and enjoyment.
Good to see some bro that did some serious thinking here other than mongering, because thinking just makes your mongering better, safer and more memorable.
Member #4145
12-25-11, 12:15
I can't agree more with AshDragon's summary on CP illusion. I was once enjoying playing gal emotion, but finally and fortunately discovered that this is too cruel to another human being; being young, a bit ok-looking, a bit cash and growing-up from better world don't give you any damn priviledge to hurt these country-side gals feeling on purpose, this is just not right. Anyone who is doing this should be ashameful of themsevles. After palying in CP for too long, people def got lost on some social principles, like "equal, polite, sympathy, and respect". I want to set up a big signage right at the entrance of CP town, like in vegas" welcome to CP" on the front, then "you can lose money but not yourself" on the back of signage, so people can remind themsevles when leaving the down, all for the next happy come-back trip and enjoyment.
Good to see some bro that did some serious thinking here other than mongering, because thinking just makes your mongering better, safer and more memorable.Good to see there are some decent chaps out there. I spend quite a bit of my freetime with a WG. I've know her for a few months and she is very lovely girl. She even cooks and cleans when she visits my apartment! When you find a nice WG, stick with her, treat her well and it will come back to you. Who knows, perhaps one day you won't have to pay for it anymore?
I've seen a lot of deadbeat types at the bars in Guangzhou, they way the oogle at them and think because they've got money the girl will like them or go with them. These girls are not idiots, they know men better than men know themselves.
But by being a gentleman, acting kind, funny with a dash of charm can go a long way. It has for me. Remember, they are just girls, just doing a job. If you get a good rep with one of them, then the others will want you too. This is how it works for me.
Sinclair
Hello, can anyone provide information on SwanLake Hotel sauna; price for girls / room, girl quality, service. Etc?
Any info is much appreciated
SE Asia Joe
12-26-11, 12:57
Hello, can anyone provide information on SwanLake Hotel sauna; price for girls / room, girl quality, service. Etc?
Any info is much appreciated3 posts. 3 questions?
OK, I've got a question back for you:
Do you even ever read anything that others here write unselfishly to inform others?
SEAJ
3 posts. 3 questions?
OK, I've got a question back for you:
Do you even ever read anything that others here write unselfishly to inform others?
SEAJSEAJ.
You are much too nice. Let me welcome a newbie.
I question back to our newbie. Have you ever consider RTFF? (if you do not know the acronym RTFF, go to abbreviation and you will know.)
I tried to send you a PM, but could not. You may want to consider activating the PM function. There are many lurker on this board and sometimes posting specific information could create some issues. LE could be lurking like yourself.
No, I do not work for Jackson, but he is a nice guy to put up with us.
Once you activate your PM, you may want to message one of the senior member and ask nicely, just remember to start with a nice "Please"
Now RTFF and you will be much wiser.
OldAsiaHand
12-29-11, 05:08
I want to quote one of my best friends and longest mongering buddies. We have mongered together off and on for nearly 30 years. He always used to say:
"It's all about money or it's all about nothing!"
IMHO, this is the underlying factor when it comes to CP. Everybody in any kind of business; the girls, the mamas, the KTVs, the saunas, the BBS, and, the taxi drivers, the shopkeepers, the hotels, and the criminal element on the street are just out to get as much money from you as they can; as quickly as they can; in any way they can. One of their best strategies is to stroke your ego to create the illusion that Asndragon mentions and make you believe that you are a king and can get away with anything in CP. But, try taking money away from them and you will pay the consequences.
They all could give a shit about you if you did not have any money in your pocket. Nobody is your "friend". No WG really "loves" you.
One good example that I come across quite often are the BBS mamas. Have you ever noticed that they are fair weather friends? If they have a bigger fish or do not have any girls for you, they just ignore you. When they have no other better options, they are your long, lost friend. It's just business.
I have heard so many times over the years,"You don't understand. My girl is different." I have even fallen a few times myself until I woke up from the dream and the illusion.
Over the years, I have tried to always remember what my mongering buddy used to say and just paid my money and took my chances. Sometimes good, sometime average, sometimes a miss, sometimes a ripoff. My advise for CP is to pay as you go and pay regardless. It is small money compared to the consequences that could arise otherwise. Sometimes you need to swallow a little pride and realize that it is just an illusion as Asndragon has posted.
Just my POV.
OAH
OldAsiaHand
12-29-11, 05:17
Hello, can anyone provide information on SwanLake Hotel sauna; price for girls / room, girl quality, service. Etc?
Any info is much appreciatedAbcden,
The Swan Lake Hotel and the sauna are closed. In fact, all the saunas in CP have been closed. The prices were too high and the quality of the girls and service was too low so they could not stay in business. Too many newbies did not read the forum so they lacked customers.
If you had RTFF, you would have known that and not had to ask.
Just my POV.
OAH
OAH has spoken; therefore, it is official. OAH, SEAJOE everyone else has all been great veterans of the trade. Sometimes when you stop and listen and really soak in the words from veterans, their advice really do help you out a whole lot. Sure, most people can learn things the hard way and experience mistakes and grief first hand before actually learning their lesson, but why go through all of that trouble if you can just absorb some of the wisdom that other people give?
I've heard of the "my girl's different from other girls, I think she really likes me" story as well. I once was young before, and thought that some of these WG was really into me as a person and not just for financial gains. As silly, naive and young I was before, I faced the harsh truth every time- the hard way. I witnesses and experienced WG trying to reel in several guys at the same time by giving the same sob story about parent in their home village being sick and in need of money etc. I found the same text she texted me on multiple phone numbers to other mongers with the same mass text message "Oh honey, I miss you so much, I'm so glad you are in my life, my parents are sick could you help send me 1000 rmb? I promise I'll pay you back. You are the only one for me etc."
I've run into WG that I thought was really into me in restaurants, on the street, with other guys when they claimed they were sick at home resting from a bad flu. I've even caught some girls who I paid for their penalty fines for not working, so they could go home and rest, later to find them at the same KTV that night with another guy putting his arms around her.
The list goes on and on. But in the very end, WG will always be a WG in CP. CP is a strange and unique place. It is just completely surreal sometimes. Just when you think things are so real in CP, you later on will only find that it was just a temporary mirage of excitement. If you are trying to find romance, CP is not the place for you.
A good word of advice is this: Whenever you meet a girl, on the back of your head realize there's a high probability that they already have a boyfriend or a husband. Recently, I had a great Sauna girl that I visited a few times in CA. She was terrific, enthusiastic and really even asked me out to have dinner with her. She complimented me and said how special I was etc. Later on, I chatted with her online. Apparently she left her chat platform on and her husband started sending everyone on her chat list a picture of himself. When I asked her who the guy was, she openly admitted that this message file was not sent by her, but it was her husband who sent it out. She admitted she has been married for 2 years already. Her husband knows and is supportive of her being a sauna girl as her profession. It was a true wakeup call that nothing is what it appears to be.
AsnDragon.
I want to quote one of my best friends and longest mongering buddies. We have mongered together off and on for nearly 30 years. He always used to say:
"It's all about money or it's all about nothing!"
IMHO, this is the underlying factor when it comes to CP. Everybody in any kind of business; the girls, the mamas, the KTVs, the saunas, the BBS, and, the taxi drivers, the shopkeepers, the hotels, and the criminal element on the street are just out to get as much money from you as they can; as quickly as they can; in any way they can. One of their best strategies is to stroke your ego to create the illusion that Asndragon mentions and make you believe that you are a king and can get away with anything in CP. But, try taking money away from them and you will pay the consequences.
They all could give a shit about you if you did not have any money in your pocket. Nobody is your "friend". No WG really "loves" you.
One good example that I come across quite often are the BBS mamas. Have you ever noticed that they are fair weather friends? If they have a bigger fish or do not have any girls for you, they just ignore you. When they have no other better options, they are your long, lost friend. It's just business.
I have heard so many times over the years,"You don't understand. My girl is different." I have even fallen a few times myself until I woke up from the dream and the illusion.
Over the years, I have tried to always remember what my mongering buddy used to say and just paid my money and took my chances. Sometimes good, sometime average, sometimes a miss, sometimes a ripoff. My advise for CP is to pay as you go and pay regardless. It is small money compared to the consequences that could arise otherwise. Sometimes you need to swallow a little pride and realize that it is just an illusion as Asndragon has posted.
Just my POV.
OAH
Red Rock II
12-31-11, 20:27
Hi, I will need to meet a few people in SZ in a few days. I would like to visit CP for some fun (I have not been there for a couple years) Now I need some advice:
1. Will it be a good idea to stay in a hotel in CP, and go to SZ during the day for business and come back to CP at evening for mongering (I know it will only take an hour by train from CP to SZ)?
2. I just learned that all the sunas are closed in CP as well as SWH from OHA's post. How about those BBS girls? Quality and quantity are still good? Are those WG starting to go back home for CNY? How are the things going in CP now?
3. A 19 year old girl living in SZ with average BBS girl's looking offers me 5 days companionship for 3000RMB. She said she is a sales person in a store. What will you think? Should I stictk with her for 5 days, or use the same amount of money to try different BBS girls in CP? Or Is it possible to find a better looking BBS girl in CP and keep her for 5 days for that kind of money?
Please help, thanks!
RR
ManonsanBoy
12-31-11, 21:48
The types you meet being involved in your mongering activities gaurantee they will almost certainly double time, double cross and sell you down the toilet if appropriate. We all do the same when the next cutie comes along. Get real, guys and enjoy the primary activity, the entry of you cock into a pussy for some money.
SE Asia Joe
01-01-12, 06:28
Hi, I will need to meet a few people in SZ in a few days. I would like to visit CP for some fun (I have not been there for a couple years) Now I need some advice:
1. Will it be a good idea to stay in a hotel in CP, and go to SZ during the day for business and come back to CP at evening for mongering (I know it will only take an hour by train from CP to SZ)?
2. I just learned that all the sunas are closed in CP as well as SWH from OHA's post. How about those BBS girls? Quality and quantity are still good? Are those WG starting to go back home for CNY? How are the things going in CP now?
3. A 19 year old girl living in SZ with average BBS girl's looking offers me 5 days companionship for 3000RMB. She said she is a sales person in a store. What will you think? Should I stictk with her for 5 days, or use the same amount of money to try different BBS girls in CP? Or Is it possible to find a better looking BBS girl in CP and keep her for 5 days for that kind of money?
Please help, thanks!
RRLMFAO! REALLY LMFAO!
This is precisely what you get when you don't RTFF!
EVERYBODY knows that OAH loves to yank the chains of those who do NOT RTFF and are just asking for free hand-outs.
Come on Bro! You've been to CP prior and you need to ask if there's still action? There's ALWAYS action here!
It's only a matter of a bit more or a bit less, and if you've really been RTFF'ing, you'd know that to assure your good time whilst there. Go to BSDave!
Specific to your questions:.
1. Yes, of course worth it to stay in CP for entertainment AND to save a bit as the hotel rates are cheaper. And the train only takes approx 30 minutes.
2. See above.
3. Why would you want to stick to a supposed "civvie" for the whole 5 days whilst the per diem rate is not all that great compared to what you KNOW is available in CP; unless you plan on marrying her! LOL! Please note that if she makes herself out to be a civvie, then you can expect to be at least expected to provide more than what you had agreed on by way of shopping etc. Yeah, civvie and she already got her rates up!
Pick and choose bro. Pick and chose to your heart's content prior to making commitments for PAID relationships.
Just IMHO. Of course!
Or as OAH would say. Just my POV!
SEAJ
Red Rock II
01-01-12, 16:49
Thanks a lot SEAJ! You are a great man though you mis-judged me a little bit. I do RTFF, anyway, it is not important, the important is your POV and your advice. It is great to know that it only takes 30 minutes to get to CP from SZ. I took this train back and forth between CP and SZ many times before, but as you know, when a person gets old.
I apologize for making you upset a few years back when I made a comment about the hair or hairless discussion over the other thread. I actually love hairless as much as you do. Hope I can find some this time. If you have your resource, please be generous.
I was going on an Asia wide trip and while doing research I stumbled upon a mention of CP (another forum). I started digging around and found ISG and BSD. That's how my trip was hatched.
BSD was awesome. I can't speak mando or canto, so I literally felt like an alien, even though my Asian appearance ensured everyone thought I was a local. So I can't sing enough praise for BSD. He made sure I played in a safe environment, and hes a cool guy so was fun just hanging out with him.
Regarding the specifics, because I was only staying two days I was behaving like a rabbit. 3 saunas. 1 BBS, and 1 KTV.
For my first sauna session, went to xiao ho (? Sorry not so good with names. It's the place next to miraton) , and it blew my mind away. So many girls, and I had to choose one. I was dithering between two girls and eventually picked one, but I was getting buyers remorse in the room as I didn't think she was as hot as I thought. But once the action got started, I was smitten. This girl (xiao yi I think she said her name was) was a total gem. If I have any remorse now it's that I didn't do her again. Her femininity and her sexy voice (I'll never forget that voice). I started off CP with a bang. Did more saunas, and even went back to the place to do the other girl I wanted, and a BBS, but they couldn't match that first girl.
The other highlight was the KTV party that BSD organised on my second night. It was the first KTV in my life and this was the one and only KTV I did in CP, and boy, it was fun. Out of everything I could do in CP, definitely KTV is something I could do all the time. I went and picked girls like mad because I was going the next day. Ended up with 4 girls sitting with me. TBH 4 is way too much, and all my attention was on 2 of them. 1 cute and bubbly girl (who seemed to like me). The other one was a gem, a real looker, but a bit too professional. I couldn't stop looking at her without getting a hardon though.
The party itself was awesome, with the cute girl especially was fun as hell. Word of advice, fun girls are better to play with. So pick 2, one to play with and one to fuck. I couldn't stay at the party for very late as I had an early morning bus to catch, so I took both girls to the hotel room.
I fucked the hot one first and sent her off. I held onto the fun one for LT, as I really enjoyed her company. Did one more pop in the morning and then we said our goodbyes.
Overall an unforgettable experience. TBH I had a bit of CPitis for a few days afterwards. But I was in Bangkok so I had other adventures there too. The difference between CP and BKK is striking, but that's a topic for some other time.
Want to give a shout to BSD, thanks for looking out for me brother. Also met BSDs mates / clients that I partied with. V and L, you guys are awesome.
BSD Dave,
FYI, lots of newbies are trying to PM you on ISG, but it seems that there is something wrong with your inbox. Newbie members cannot get a hold of you. Please address this problem as there are eager bros that are in need of your services.
AsnDragon
She admitted she has been married for 2 years already. Her husband knows and is supportive of her being a sauna girl as her profession. It was a true wakeup call that nothing is what it appears to be.
AsnDragon.Imagine that a girl in China supporting a guy. He is figuring why not, she has great sex skills which he gets for free, get 20k-30k a month (assuming she is a looker) and he can go chicken running midday anytime he wants knowing there is no way in hell that she can leave the 'office' to catch him. The easy life.
And Happy New Year everyone.
I apologize for making you upset a few years back when I made a comment about the hair or hairless discussion over the other thread. I actually love hairless as much as you do. Hope I can find some this time. If you have your resource, please be generous.RedRock.
SEAJoe, prefer the hairy ones or rather the ones in their natural state. He does not like it when some mongers (I'm not going to mention any names) teaches the gals how to keep it shave or trim. Like yourselves many of us prefer the "white tigers.".
Hui Mei Sauna.
Standard routine : shower. BBBJ. AR. Catwash. FS multiple positions. Ended with BBBJCIM.
Nice selection of girls but a little too mechanical, not a GFE for sure.
KTV party with BSD and friends (I don't remember the name of the place)
Maybe because this was my first KTV experience but I think it was a great party.
Flowerstreet was amazing, really hard to choose among this many girls.
I found 2 girls, one was very cute and the other seemed fun.
Drinking, dancing, playing games, . But unfortunately just very basic communication as I don't speak or understand any word of Chinese.
At the end I went back to the hotel. Alone. I didn't feel the 'click'.
Still enjoyed the party and will join other KTV parties for sure in the future.
Oh forgot to say, all girls get naked after a couple of hours. Not sure if this is in every KTV.
Miraton sauna.
Next day I went to the Miraton sauna.
I got 1 line-up with girls ranging from 685-785-885 (incl. Room charge). The reason of these price differences was not clear to me as I rated them all 6/10 or 7/10. The manager said the service would be the same for all. 885 girl was dressed as a secretary but she looked too severe. I decided to choose the only girl that smiled to me, number 556.
On the way to the room we crossed other line-ups and I regret not asking to see more girls as there were some real hotties I missed. I think they keep the nicest looking girls for regulars or extra line ups.
Once in the room, communication was hard again. Why don't these girls study english at school?
We showered, went to bed and then she start sucking and licking my ass, balls and dick as I never felt before. She gave me the best and longest BJ ever. Didn't know you could receive a BJ in so many positions, standing, on my knees, lying with my legs in the air, .
I had to stop her several times as I really didn't want to come too fast.
I felt as she was having fun letting me cry to stop. She kept going on, sometimes licking me as a vanilla icecream and then suddenly sucking as a vaccuum cleaner.
She took her time and let me end with a CIM after almost 1 hour of happiness.
No swallowing but spitting, what could I expect more.
Looks : 7/10.
BBBJCIM : 9, 5/10.
Damage : 785.
God, I love blowjobs.
Newyears Weekend spent in HK (Wanchai bars and KP)
Plans for my 2nd week in CP but need to find a balance between my work, pleasure and wallet:
Virgin sauna, another KTV party and maybe checkout the offers of the mamasan in front of the hotel.
Also my thanks to BSD who arranged my hotel (Miraton) and transportation. Really worth contacting him when you visit CP.
When you can not reach him trough PM, try the classifieds area, you can find his email and phone.
Question : does Miraton KTV have a flowerstreet? And can you choose a girl to take to your room without staying in the KTV?
Sardaukar1
01-02-12, 20:14
3. Why would you want to stick to a supposed "civvie" for the whole 5 days whilst the per diem rate is not all that great compared to what you KNOW is available in CP; unless you plan on marrying her! LOL! Please note that if she makes herself out to be a civvie, then you can expect to be at least expected to provide more than what you had agreed on by way of shopping etc. Yeah, civvie and she already got her rates up!
Pick and choose bro. Pick and chose to your heart's content prior to making commitments for PAID relationships.Rule of thumb: when you need to pay a girl cold hard cash to be your girlfriend, something is wrong.
LOL!
Gents,
Been RTFF but cannot find a definition for CP. What is it? Commercial pussy?
CP = ChangPing town in Dongguan city, the place to be in China according to this forum.
Gents,
Been RTFF but cannot find a definition for CP. What is it? Commercial pussy?Haha. Try Chang Ping
Sardaukar.
Isn't that how you know you are in CP? . When you need to pay a girl cold hard cash to be your girlfriend.
SE Asia Joe
01-03-12, 15:56
RedRock.
SEAJoe, prefer the hairy ones or rather the ones in their natural state. He does not like it when some mongers (I'm not going to mention any names) teaches the gals how to keep it shave or trim. Like yourselves many of us prefer the "white tigers.".Red Rock II. Just like the last time (amongst the many times) when our bro Bnlee gets going on discussing ad-finitum on his penchant to screw plucked chickens, you are free to send in your bazookas!
Just make sure whilst doing so, you don't mention the word Freebies or his Swear-To-God Hi-class ones!
God saves all of us if you make that mistake!
LMAO!
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
01-04-12, 05:03
CP = ChangPing town in Dongguan city, the place to be in China according to this forum.To Euroboy.
Changping is a small town in Dongguan county not city in Guangzhou province, all you newbie only know CP is a mongering town but don't know anything else.
Fast Eddie 48
To Euroboy.
Changping is a small town in Dongguan county not city in Guangzhou province, all you newbie only know CP is a mongering town but don't know anything else.
Fast Eddie 48Hey Fast Eddie,
You are right but most important is I found this place.
Euroboy
Big Swingin Dave
01-04-12, 09:54
BSD Dave,
FYI, lots of newbies are trying to PM you on ISG, but it seems that there is something wrong with your inbox. Newbie members cannot get a hold of you. Please address this problem as there are eager bros that are in need of your services.
AsnDragonMy PM box is not full so shouldn't be having any problems unless the newbies don't have a subscription to ISG and can't PM me. Anyways, anyone can go to the Classified Section and look up my phone number and email address.
Chinese New Year (CNY) 2012 will be on Monday. 23rd of January. Typically, CP becomes a virtual ghost town due to many girls returning home for the holiday so if anyone is planning for one last shot before the New Year it is best to come one week prior to ensure that there is still adequate quantity of girls for you to choose from. That being said however, I have been asking the WGs and am getting about a 60/40 response (60% leaving town. 40% remaining in CP). It is best to not come back until the weekend of the 11th and things should be back to full-swing by the weekend of February 21st.
Happy New Year of the Dragon!
BSD
To Euroboy.
Changping is a small town in Dongguan county not city in Guangzhou province, all you newbie only know CP is a mongering town but don't know anything else.
Fast Eddie 48Guangzhou Province? Never heard of.
Now lets get this straight. Guangdong Province, Donguan Prefecture level City, Changping Town.
Changping is very easy to find, as it is where the Donguan Railway station is. It can be reached directly from Hong Kong by train in 1 hour or from Shenzhen in about 20 minutes.
SE Asia Joe
01-05-12, 05:52
Guangzhou Province? Never heard of.
Now lets get this straight. Guangdong Province, Donguan Prefecture level City, Changping Town.
Changping is very easy to find, as it is where the Donguan Railway station is. It can be reached directly from Hong Kong by train in 1 hour or from Shenzhen in about 20 minutes.LMAO!
Touche!
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
01-05-12, 06:35
Guangzhou Province? Never heard of.
Now lets get this straight. Guangdong Province, Donguan Prefecture level City, Changping Town.
Changping is very easy to find, as it is where the Donguan Railway station is. It can be reached directly from Hong Kong by train in 1 hour or from Shenzhen in about 20 minutes.To Tiger 888.
Yes is Guangdong now in the Old day is Guangzhou and Guangzhou city is was Canton, the province got too big and was spit p to 2 Guangdong and Guangxi.
Fast Eddie 48
Guangzhou Province? Never heard of.
Now lets get this straight. Guangdong Province, Donguan Prefecture level City, Changping Town.
Changping is very easy to find, as it is where the Donguan Railway station is. It can be reached directly from Hong Kong by train in 1 hour or from Shenzhen in about 20 minutes.So actually I had it (almost) right.
Some senior members (don't mention any names) could still learn from newbies.
Euroboy
"It's all about money or it's all about nothing!"
They all could give a shit about you if you did not have any money in your pocket.
Just my POV.
OAHStop being such a damn cynic!
I recently read in an American newspaper that "giving a hug is better than giving money". I'll give it try in DongGuan and report back.
I'm in CP. If any of my friends are around, or anybody who wants to meet for coffee or lunch, send me a PM. Dave, Joe and OAH have my number.
Stop being such a damn cynic!
I recently read in an American newspaper that "giving a hug is better than giving money". I'll give it try in DongGuan and report back.
I'm in CP. If any of my friends are around, or anybody who wants to meet for coffee or lunch, send me a PM. Dave, Joe and OAH have my number.If you're cummin' up short then move onto trying a hug and money. That's a report worth reading! IMHO
try a hug and money.
OI told a girl that in America a hug is better than money. Now she wants money for a hug.
OAH is right again. It's all about the money.
Good to hear from you again Santa! I'm sure that all the mommies are glad to see you back in town.
Nothing is ever free. But I'm sure that you could get a free hug from the mommies- if you pick one of their girls. I don't know if you would consider that to be free though, or if you would even want to hug any of the mommies. Although I do find one of the mommie assistants to be a bit cute.
Also be a bit careful with the BBS behind Hui Mei, as I have recently received really awful service from the girls there.
Santa- you mentioned you wanted to meet up with Dave, Joe, OAH, but you left out OWL.
Happy Mongering!
AsnDragon.
I told a girl that in America a hug is better than money. Now she wants money for a hug.
OAH is right again. It's all about the money.
Sardaukar1,
Really? If you have to pay a girl hard cash to be your girlfriend, there's something wrong? I always thought that was the norm.
If you don't pay now, you pay more later!
AsnDragon.
Rule of thumb: when you need to pay a girl cold hard cash to be your girlfriend, something is wrong.
LOL!
Freepeaks,
Actually, after several years of talking to many Sauna girls, I found out some interesting facts. Many of the bigger triad and gangster bosses have at least one or several girls working as Sauna girls for them. In fact many of the small time gangsters got their start by tricking girls to get into the Sauna business so that the cash flow could help them in venturing into other illegal trades- such as recruiting more gangsters, drugs, smuggling, illegal gambling dens, protection services etc. I mean think about it, where would the small time gangsters have the ability to become big time traid gangs without any financial support right?
So in the end CP really does revolve around WG- in every sector of the economy, even the grey and black economy of the town.
Recently, in one of the KTVs, one of the gogo dancers was having a problem with one of the customers snapping photos of her dancing. She had asked the customer to stop taking pictures of her as she prefers her privacy. The customer refused and the gogo dancer called her "friends" and 25 gangsters came in with metal pipes and trashed the KTV and seriously injured the stupid customer with the camera. Unfortunately, the camera did not survive the beating. This happened at Jing Liang KTV. This happened on 10/30/2011.
If you are interested cut and paste this: 视频：安排艳舞生事东莞常平酒店 onto youku. Com and you will see the gangsters coming with 2 meter long metal pipes ready to beat up that guy with the camera.
So as I said before- be careful who you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off in CP (especially the females) because it could come around to bite you back real hard.
Be safe and Happy Mongering!
AsnDragon.
Imagine that a girl in China supporting a guy. He is figuring why not, she has great sex skills which he gets for free, get 20k-30k a month (assuming she is a looker) and he can go chicken running midday anytime he wants knowing there is no way in hell that she can leave the 'office' to catch him. The easy life.
And Happy New Year everyone.
Blacklisted
01-07-12, 10:32
I told a girl that in America a hug is better than money. Now she wants money for a hug.
OAH is right again. It's all about the money.Santa you young scallywag, I'm in town at the moment! Doing Amazon tonight if you are up for it! Dave has my number too.
SE Asia Joe
01-09-12, 18:00
Got to relay this Li'l gem to you guys!
A friend of mine phoned me up and excitedly told me that he was right then with a gal that he KNOWS is IT!
He's totally smitten, she's perfect and to cap it all off, she's a total newbie at the game.
WOW, I'm in love he tells me!
Unfortunately he don't really speak Chinese and asked me to ask her how much it would be for him to keep her overnight (She's a BBS gal at RMB250 / pop) and what was the rate for her to accompany him for at least a week.
Talked to her and she told me the overnight rate is 600 (it is, I knew that, and my friend should also have!) and for a week or whatever, well her rate is still 600 / day.
Relayed the information back to my friend and hung up.
Well, it don't take half an hour and he's back on the blower: "Damn it all, its only about money. So I kicked her out!"
LMFAO!
Found her, did her, fell madly and wonderfully in love with her, get all heart-broken. All within the space of a couple hours!
Only in CP!
SEAJ
SEAJOE,
Ah Joe, you didn't have to spread my story all over the board here. How am I ever going to have enough courage and face to encounter any of the brothers on this board now! My image is ruined! Haha.
Hope your friend is recovering from his 2 hour love drama. Things sure move fast in CP.
"Every time I go on a chicken run, I fall in love with their breasts."
AsnDragon.
Got to relay this Li'l gem to you guys!
A friend of mine phoned me up and excitedly told me that he was right then with a gal that he KNOWS is IT!
He's totally smitten, she's perfect and to cap it all off, she's a total newbie at the game.
WOW, I'm in love he tells me!
Unfortunately he don't really speak Chinese and asked me to ask her how much it would be for him to keep her overnight (She's a BBS gal at RMB250 / pop) and what was the rate for her to accompany him for at least a week.
Talked to her and she told me the overnight rate is 600 (it is, I knew that, and my friend should also have!) and for a week or whatever, well her rate is still 600 / day.
Relayed the information back to my friend and hung up.
Well, it don't take half an hour and he's back on the blower: "Damn it all, its only about money. So I kicked her out!"
LMFAO!
Found her, did her, fell madly and wonderfully in love with her, get all heart-broken. All within the space of a couple hours!
Only in CP!
SEAJ
SEAJOE,
Ah Joe, you didn't have to spread my story all over the board here. How am I ever going to have enough courage and face to encounter any of the brothers on this board now! My image is ruined! Haha.
Hope your friend is recovering from his 2 hour love drama. Things sure move fast in CP.
"Every time I go on a chicken run, I fall in love with their breasts."
AsnDragon.AsnDragon / SeaJoe.
Approximately $90USD per day, that is still cheap to pay. I just have an old college classmate that lost $10M in a divorce with his wife. At ninety bucks a day, trading the bit&h for newer models every year is still a better deal than losing $$MM in a divorce situation. Think about it.
OK, Joe the the ISG bully is on my case again! The deal breaker was not the money. I was trying to negotiate a weekly rate, but that wasn't happening. Then she said she would want to leave in the morning and return at night. But then there is no point in taking her for the week, so I didn't.
As for "being in love", I love all of these girls. They ALL belong to me! But the rest of you roosters keep raiding my chickencoop and I'm unable to prevent it.
Asian Dragon, yes I agree that the service is usually worse with the HuiMei girls. I need to train them better. I need to teach Tong Tong to quit complaining.
SE Asia Joe
01-11-12, 07:36
OK, Joe the the ISG bully is on my case again! The deal breaker was not the money. I was trying to negotiate a weekly rate, but that wasn't happening. Then she said she would want to leave in the morning and return at night. But then there is no point in taking her for the week, so I didn't.
As for "being in love", I love all of these girls. They ALL belong to me! But the rest of you roosters keep raiding my chickencoop and I'm unable to prevent it.
Asian Dragon, yes I agree that the service is usually worse with the HuiMei girls. I need to train them better. I need to teach Tong Tong to quit complaining.LMAO! Santa "outing" himself!
But yes, that REALLY is a deal breaker ain't it?
When you're thinkin' "I is really giving her good lovin'," but instead getting Tong Tong Tong as feedback!
Only Santa!
SEAJ
Santa,
Sorry to hear about that! I think there's two reasons for your outcome.
1. You did not negotiate hard enough. She saw how sweet and cuddly you were and thought that she could pull a fast one on you. Of course any girl would want to work during the day time to earn extra money before spending the night with you to collect that overnight fee of $600 RMB.
2. The Mommie may have heard about it and restricted it or the girl was afraid that the mommie might find out about this transaction (most girls that are new, seem to fear their mommies) If you had her for one whole week then the mommie would not get to collect any of her fees because she in turn gets cut out of the deal. In addition, it is also to her best interest to not allow overnight sessions until late at night so that she can get more fees by having the girl go out with more customers throughout the day. In addition, it is also the Mommie's best interest to not have you have a girl for overnight so that you will come back to her room to pick out more girls from her, thus allowing her to collect more fees.
But in the end it's her lost not yours anyways. She missed out on Santa's 5 star day and night treatment.
AsnDragon.
OK, Joe the the ISG bully is on my case again! The deal breaker was not the money. I was trying to negotiate a weekly rate, but that wasn't happening. Then she said she would want to leave in the morning and return at night. But then there is no point in taking her for the week, so I didn't.
As for "being in love", I love all of these girls. They ALL belong to me! But the rest of you roosters keep raiding my chickencoop and I'm unable to prevent it.
Asian Dragon, yes I agree that the service is usually worse with the HuiMei girls. I need to train them better. I need to teach Tong Tong to quit complaining.
On my recent trip to CP, I have had my share of BBS girls- from Hui Mei Area to Swan Lake Area. I have recently been hearing a lot of stories from girls about fellow mongers doing extremely stupid things, things in which I feel are spoiling a lot of girls.
I had a beautiful Hunan girl at the Swan Lake BBS- White milky skin, really nice rack, a little baby fat, but I did not mind that at all. She was so gorgeous, in fact she could pass for any KTV girl in any of the higher end KTV establishments. When I saw her I asked if she worked at a KTV before because she seemed really pretty- a bit too pretty to be working at a BBS. She said "no" but there was one customer who picked her at the BBS, did not have sex with her, and took her to Yihao KTV and requested that she help him pick out a KTV girl from the line up. After this BBS girl helped this customer pick out a KTV from the lineup, he paid her 250 RMB and a cab fare home. So this Monger paid a BBS girl money to just help him pick out a girl and then told her to go home! Can you imagine that?
Girls these days working as a WG are progressively becoming more demanding already as it is, but I feel that we should not contribute to this behavior. Girl's service is already not as good as it was a few years ago, but with these types of incidences girls will feel that they should or can earn money by doing less or in this case doing nothing. This could partially explain why girls expect to get more with doing less.
Please guys, don't ruin it for the rest of us. Throughout the years I've seen a whole lot of guys come into town with deep pockets throwing money at girls left and right. That is your prerogative, but let's try not to spoil girls and progressively make girls in CP more lazy ok?
AsnDragon
Bigboobman007
01-12-12, 13:37
Went to amazon recently with dave and gang. Don't remember your nicks, gang. Sorry. Shout out to me, would you. I was pleasantly surprised about this place and the gals of course. Picked 6 form the lineup, released 3 in the room, released 1 before the going naked in the room. 1 strip danced and 1 waited outside. Wanted to bring back the one that waited outside (as I inspected her top class boobs already) but I had to change my mind and go with one who stripped. She had the best of nature's gifts, huge hooters with smooth white skin and super light nips. Yummie. Bigboobman certified grade a+++. I'm talking about 38D at least. I had a hard on with just looking at her boobs after shower. It's crazy. That's so not easy to do for me. On the bed, she was almost a deadfish as expected but she allowed me to do as I like, so it was cool.
So amazon is pretty gud for me. The only thing lacking are the games that are normally played in a CA naked KTV like guess the boobs or 789 or stripping game. Let's start that in CP, dave.
After this BBS girl helped this customer pick out a KTV from the lineup, he paid her 250 RMB and a cab fare home. So this Monger paid a BBS girl money to just help him pick out a girl and then told her to go home! Can you imagine that?
Please guys, don't ruin it for the rest of us. Throughout the years I've seen a whole lot of guys come into town with deep pockets throwing money at girls left and right. That is your prerogative, but let's try not to spoil girls and progressively make girls in CP more lazy ok?
AsnDragonThat's right Dragon, tell 'em how it is. These big swinging dicks raiding my coops and spoiling my girls. Idiots! It ain't right!
Now the Year of the Dragon is here and we need to put our old dragons to work. Unfortunately, sometimes, using my old dragon is like trying to play pool with a rope!
Bigboobman,
Wow, you certify the girl to be A+++? That is beyond rare! She must have had the biggest nicest rack then. It is rare to see bigboobman say such positive things about a girl. But when he certifies it with his stamp of approval, then she must be a gem.
Bigboobman, please do share with me through PM her contact. I would love to see this girl.
Glad you had fun at amazon. Was there a lack of girls in CP these days as Chinese New years is coming up?
AsnDragon.
Went to amazon recently with dave and gang. Don't remember your nicks, gang. Sorry. Shout out to me, would you. I was pleasantly surprised about this place and the gals of course. Picked 6 form the lineup, released 3 in the room, released 1 before the going naked in the room. 1 strip danced and 1 waited outside. Wanted to bring back the one that waited outside (as I inspected her top class boobs already) but I had to change my mind and go with one who stripped. She had the best of nature's gifts, huge hooters with smooth white skin and super light nips. Yummie. Bigboobman certified grade a+++. I'm talking about 38D at least. I had a hard on with just looking at her boobs after shower. It's crazy. That's so not easy to do for me. On the bed, she was almost a deadfish as expected but she allowed me to do as I like, so it was cool.
So amazon is pretty gud for me. The only thing lacking are the games that are normally played in a CA naked KTV like guess the boobs or 789 or stripping game. Let's start that in CP, dave.
Hi bigboobman,
I vote pro for the stripping.
Tried yesterday in Amazon but kept loosing from my gal so I was the only one stripping and that was not my idea of having fun.
Decided to stop the game before I lost my pants. Think they cheated.
Euroboy
CORRECTION : Mayflower, not amazon.
Hi bigboobman,
I vote pro for the stripping.
Tried yesterday in Amazon but kept loosing from my gal so I was the only one stripping and that was not my idea of having fun.
Decided to stop the game before I lost my pants. Think they cheated.
Euroboy
AsnDragon / SeaJoe.
Approximately $90USD per day, that is still cheap to pay. I just have an old college classmate that lost $10M in a divorce with his wife. At ninety bucks a day, trading the bit&h for newer models every year is still a better deal than losing $$MM in a divorce situation. Think about it.There was a TV show episode that was about a rich guy divorcing his previously a high price call girl wife after 10 years and paying her $3. 65M of his 500M fortune.
Because that was 1, 000 a night. She poisoned him because of it. Think it was a law and order.
But that is very true, look at 90 / day, that is $32k a year. Now supposing she uses her money for everything. Much better that your friend.
Sorry for him.
But the rest of you roosters keep raiding my chickencoop and I'm unable to prevent it.Who you calling a rooster? I'm a wolf. 100% &33394; &29436;
[QUOTE=AsnDragon; 1236442]Santa,
2. The Mommie may have heard about it and restricted it or the girl was afraid that the mommie might find out about this transaction (most girls that are new, seem to fear their mommies) If you had her for one whole week then the mommie would not get to collect any of her fees because she in turn gets cut out of the deal. In addition, it is also to her best interest to not allow overnight sessions until late at night so that she can get more fees by having the girl go out with more customers throughout the day. In addition, it is also the Mommie's best interest to not have you have a girl for overnight so that you will come back to her room to pick out more girls from her, thus allowing her to collect more fees.
AsnDragon. [/QUOTE.
1. Cutting in the mommie is a phone call away. But you are right the girls fear them.
2. Early MTW in the week girls are lucky for 1-2, only on Friday / sat / sun do they get 3-5 and only if really busy and popular. But most girls.
Would take a deal. Most likely she is living at home somewhere in the area, and this is her 'factory' job her parents / brother doesn't know.
About. I know a few KTV girls one that is a model that lives at home with parents.).
Alternatively she has a boyfriend that requires her to return home everynight. I agree no overnight no point in a week. Go find another chicken
Got to relay this Li'l gem to you guys!
A friend of mine phoned me up and excitedly told me that he was right then with a gal that he KNOWS is IT!
He's totally smitten, she's perfect and to cap it all off, she's a total newbie at the game.
WOW, I'm in love he tells me!
Unfortunately he don't really speak Chinese and asked me to ask her how much it would be for him to keep her overnight (She's a BBS gal at RMB250 / pop) and what was the rate for her to accompany him for at least a week.
Talked to her and she told me the overnight rate is 600 (it is, I knew that, and my friend should also have!) and for a week or whatever, well her rate is still 600 / day.
Relayed the information back to my friend and hung up.
Well, it don't take half an hour and he's back on the blower: "Damn it all, its only about money. So I kicked her out!"
LMFAO!
Found her, did her, fell madly and wonderfully in love with her, get all heart-broken. All within the space of a couple hours!
Only in CP!
SEAJYes I found true love my last trip to Zhongtang as well. LOL She was a cute and sexy 21 yr old. Got her to go to Macau with me and everything, yes it was true love. But somehow after the 3rd day, we alas ran out of things to talk about. Hmmmm, what to do, what to do. Well she went back and the damage at the end was 2600rmb after shopping and all for 5 days. 520RMB a day I recd the multi day discount.
What does all think the selection will be like for CNY as Im in GZ that time?
PC out
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