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09-02-03, 13:34
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BlnkNameCruiser
09-14-03, 05:10
Some of you may know this or read it, but I will report again to get this moving...

I have been to Hangzhou many times and never got FS.

I tried BB Shops and Hotel Saunas.

then on my millionth trip I finally talked this BB shop girl to give me FS. Can you believe how dumb I am that I paid her 800? She was asking 1500. INSANE!

I did it anyway only because that is the stupid state of mind I got in after trying so many times.

Then the next morning checking out of my hotel I got a phone call asking for massage. This never happened before either. I only had a few minutes, so she came up and we got right to business for 400.

Anyone have better luck in HZ?

blanknamecruiser

Daring Mood
09-14-03, 07:36
Last week stayed in Sunny Hotel, Jiefeng Lu. Asked for a massage. Stunning Liu Ping arrived at the door to apologise that she didn't know how to give a massage, and would I mind FS service... 600RMB and two hours later...absolutely no complaints... she knws what the weary traveller needs.. cuddly, loving, passionate, and enthusiastic..... Leaving she told me that none of the girls in the Sauna know how to provide massage....
only FS
Looks: 9
Enthusiasm: 9
English: 0

pekingdog
09-14-03, 17:45
Dear Daring Mood:

Do you know the pinyin for the Sunny Hotel? 600 kuai for a '9' sounds like a good deal. Did you need to work to get it?

Backrise
09-17-03, 06:54
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pekingdog
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Dear Daring Mood:

Do you know the pinyin for the Sunny Hotel? 600 kuai for a '9' sounds like a good deal. Did you need to work to get it?


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Hi pekingdog,

The pinyin for the Sunny Hotel should be YANG GUAN (for sunny) hotel (hotel could be JIU DIAN,FAN DIAN or BING GUAN)

Daring Mood
09-17-03, 12:38
Hi Peking Dog,

Sorry for the late reply. The Sunny Hotel is YBX or Xiang (1) Yi (4) Da Jiu Dian... the initial offering was 2000RMB, but didn't have to work that hard to get to 600RMB.

pekingdog
09-18-03, 17:51
Thanks,

I have to admit, the best I've done in Hangzhou was to get a sauna girl's number. She was really lovely, but I did not have time to take advantage of this opportunity on my last trip.

I will keep exploring, and should I find something interesting, I will report back here.

asiaheadhunter
09-20-03, 04:33
Have heard great things of sex in Hang Zhou from my Chinese freinds ( cheap and good qualitity! ). Have been to Hang Zhou several times now but inside the city limits have had no luck. But a Hang Zhou freind took me just 20 minutes outside the city to another little city to a little peice of heaven.

It was midnight, I was drunk so I did not get the name of the place we went to. But it is a street where there is about 20+ BBS with about 5-10 girls each. That were in the range of 5 - 9 in qualitity.

So after crusing all 20+ BBS I went back to the first one I went into. There where about 5 girls from Sichuan all in evening dresses. all 7-9`s ( might have been the dresses ). Choose a 9 and went upstairs to a long room made into smaller rooms by using curtains.

She was perfect in every way - face, body and enthusiasim. Gave a good BBBG and then FS in my 4 favorite positions without compliant and all for only rmb150! ( all the shops there charge the same my freind tells me. )

Now my Chinese freind was very nervous about bringing me to this place as they don`t have any westerners, and as it was late at night it was a bit difficult to follow how we got there. But I intend to go back there again though there and try it again, its just I wish it was closer than 2 hours from Shanghai!

FumbDuck
09-23-03, 17:25
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the help through the past several months. My friends in China are amazed at what knowledge I can contribute to the "hunt".

I'm currently in Hangzhou with a case of blueballs, patiently waiting for some special room service which may or may not arrive. Just returned from a KTV which is our normal way of finding action in the South of China. Let me say for the record: Hangzhou is not DongGuan. My China friend, who is Chinese and has spent a lot of time in KTV's, has been screwed for the second time. Remember screw me once "your fault".. screw me twice "my fault"?

When we were in the KTV, I had a feeling that we were getting screwed out of money, and that's all the action we'd be getting for the night. I mentioned it to him, but he said he was comfortable. Well, time came for the bill, and of course it was for 3000 RMB; a lot of cash for two guys and a short time.

When the girls were in the room, they all wanted to come to the hotel. It was a bunch of BS. However I will admit we had a fun time in the room playing with the girls.

My friend had a heart-to-heart with the guy from the KTV after paying him. the guy fessed up that all KTV's in Hangzhou were like theirs: all play & no action. My friend asked the KTV guy to find some girls for us. He said it would take about 1 hour. I think I'll go to sleep and dream about DongGuan.

Laogua
09-27-03, 17:52
You can try out the sauna place in either Zhejiang Hotel or XInyun Hotel, both are run by a local recreation and entertainment company, Cheng Long Enterprise. Pretty standard HK/Macau style service, 400 RMB for the lady. They usually can introduce you to the private room from second time.

Mistalava
09-30-03, 20:00
Any info regarding WenZhou would be appreciated. Hotels, action spots, etc. I know Ningbo is a little closer but there is even less activity on that board. Thanks in advance.

Daring Mood
10-01-03, 14:42
I will be staying in the Hangzhou Continental Hotel this weekend for a week. Any information on the scene around the hotel and inside (sauna, in-room service, BBS)?

Thanks in advance

IlleagleFun
10-31-03, 07:57
I've posted it before and I'll post it once again...

Hangzhou is the MOST undersexed city per capita this side of the milky way.

Does that mean you can't get FS? Of course not. But it is VERY limited and the quality is so-so. Let's just say if you're choosing a place to have fun in China, try any other place. If you have work there....good luck. If you have to live there.....God help you!

Illeagle

OldAsiaHand
11-06-03, 02:04
After reading the posts here, I decided to stay in Xiao Shan, next town down the road from Hangzhou on the highway to Ningbo.

Completely the opposite to what I have read about Hangzhou. Full range of options from 100RMB ST BBS (incall) to 800RMB KTV girls. Many freelancers (5-6 in quality) prowling the hotel for 300RMB ST.

I ended up getting delivery service from a BBS across from the Golden Horse Hotel for 200 all-in. Offered me 400 LT, but had an early start in the morning. Great service from a very sweet, attractive local girl.

Looks: 7
Body: 8
Service: 9
Attitude: 10

OAH

IlleagleFun
11-06-03, 18:09
Smart choice OAH. In all the time I lived in Hangzhou I heard of Xiaoshan, but I never visited. Major mistake on my part.

I'm still waiting for someone to prove me wrong that Hangzhou is the most undersexed (per capita) city this side of the Milky Way.

Glad you had a good time in Xiaoshan OAH.

Ill Eagle

P.S.: Maybe WSG should make it the Xiaoshan message board instead of the Hangzhou message board!

Laogua
11-15-03, 09:23
try the Sauna service on the 4th Floor of the Xindu Hotel, which is pretty good.

Ahmad
04-02-04, 14:46
Just had a nught out at Xiaoshan. Stayed at the International Hotel which is off a main road. There were several BBS on that road. Checked them out but did not find anything to my taste. Moved to the BBS opposite Golden Horse Hotel which is RMB5 away. Found one 19 year old who just arrived in the shop several days ago. Got her back and paid RMB300 for ST of which RMB100 was for the house.

The girl was from Hubei and service was 7. I suppose it was worth the hour of entertainment. Do not know if this is the same one as OAH.

OldAsiaHand
04-04-04, 02:49
Ahmad,

The BBS I pulled the girl from is around 100 meters down a small lane off the main road across from the hotel. There are also 2-3 shops right on the road as I recall.

OAH

Magna White
04-12-04, 13:44
This is my first post here. I have been using this forum for a couple years and get realy great info on my trips to various countries. Thanks for all the member here!
I went to Xiaoshan last Frbruary and followed the lead on previous posts to the BBS across the Golden Horse Hotel. Actually there are three BBS there. There is an upmarket one on the right side (when you are in front of the hotel). Skip that one, you won't get the service. On the left hand side, there are two smaller ones and I choose the one on the far left side. Shampooning and a 20-minute massage cost me 20RMB. I did ask for extra. Got a BBBJ for 100RMB in total. The girl was from Anhui and not good at that. You should ask beforehand about what you like. The backroom is too tiny for FS. Difinitely need to take girls out for better service. They quote 250RMB for ST. I will try it next time.

Player88
04-15-04, 06:01
Went to hangZhou for business this week and did some looking around, and much to my chagrin, the most I got was a CBJ at a CHinese 4-star hotel sauna. Luckily, I had a freebie contact from Shanghai that I was able to dial up and she came over for a night of fun. I still pay, but it was much more a GFE since we knew eachother form before. She tells me that there are places, but they are few and far between and thus she wants to open one. maybe a good idea for someone else...

Aigis1
05-03-04, 10:07
Last October, ended up with an oily HJ at the Shangri-La. I actually just wanted a massage after a day of biking. Called down to the center and they would not send a girl to the room. So I went down to the heath center and went in for the massage. After the regular massage was well under way the occasional stroking of the member took place and the unexpected question came. Given that this was the Shangri-La I was a little shocked. The price quoted, 500 RMB, was definitely Shangri-La. Finally gave in at 300 RMB for a middle of the road oily shot.

Secret Hunter
05-10-04, 15:56
This is my first post here.

I am wondering why there are so many people cannot find anything in Hangzhou. Yes, it's true the city is not so activate as other cities, but you can always find something here. Here are some info you may want to know.

BBS:

Many BBS provide BJ service and if you are a regular, you may get FS as well.

On north side of "wen yi lu", near "shang tung lu", there are at least 3-5 BBS providing BJ service. I may be wrong in the names of those roads. But if you tell the cable driver those names and then "tian shi yuan", the name of the property neighbouring those BBS, he/she will know where you want to go. The place is not far from the city center "Wu Lin Men Square" and "West Lake". You won't miss the place if you go there at night casue you will find many neon signs.

Girls here are much better looking than bbs in other cities--I would give the average a 8+. The house is cleaner, too. Rates a bit higher though: 200 to "XiaoJie" doing BJ and 60 to the house. Not sure about FS, was told 300-500 one shot. Sad thing is Many chicks claim that they are unwilling to do BJ/FS service to foreigners (laowai).

Secret Hunter
05-12-04, 15:52
Sauna

Many placess provide extra services. Try sauna in Wang Hu hotel, Xin Qiao Hotel, Jin Shan Hotel. Zhe Jiang hotel, etc. Another place i tried out is sort of an entertainment center locating on the west lake end of "Bao Chu Lu". The name is Eastern something. The sauna is on the basement.

Very good service in general except no FS in the first time: ass licking, toe licking, hot/cold bj, GFE. Girls usuaally have good attitude. Facilities are good, too. 400 tip to the girl is standard (my friend told me that and I always follow it.) Total expenses ranges from 500-650.

Noble Gent
05-20-04, 09:15
Greetings,

I was in Hangzhou just for one night, hit a couple of bars by westlake, and the bar avenue by the stadium, cute girls, no action.

Asked a texi driver to take me where the girls are, he took me to a singles KTV by the stadium. I didnt feel like going to KTV by myself, so I walked out.

Asked another text driver to take me to a red light district, I dont remember the name of the road, but it has 4 large BBS, each with about 15 to 20 girls. Had a 10 minute massage, then a great BBBJ from a beautiful dark skinned 22 year old girl with long hair and nice tits. I fingered her during the whole time, not a problem. Got her phone number, she agreed to stay with me next time I visit.

Total damage 200 RMB, she did not asked me for the 60 RMB usual house fee. Very strange.

On the way back to the hotel, I asked the texi driver what is the usual going rate for bbbj, he told me 200 for the lady, and 60 for the house. I guess anything is possible in China.

NB

Steve Naive
05-22-04, 19:31
Visiting Hangzhou, the most lovely city I have visited so far in China, I hoped to find some fun. There were no SW or bargirls around the Shangri-la, just road construction which screws up the traffic badly. The hotel is right across from the very nice West Lake park area.

I asked the concierge about finding girls, but he didnt understand until I gave him the universal finger-in-fist symbol, then with embarrassment he suggested the Nanshan Rd bar area.

I got in a cab who could speak just a few words of English. He seemed to understand what I was looking for, but instead of the bar area, he brought me to a bath house. I wasnt ready for that I wanted to try chatting up a local, perhaps non-pro, and try my luck there.

In the second bar on Nanshan Rd, a friendly group of Shanghainese men and women, probably late 20s early 30s, invited me to join them. I began flirting with a cute outgoing woman among them who spoke some English. We danced, they gave me beer, after an hour they were ready to get dim sum, and it was goodbye rather than come along. Another woman was chatting me up, and I should have gone back to her, but I had made such a pass at the first one (who I liked).

The cabbie, my friend for the evening, took me back to the bathhouse. I had thought they were offering 600RMB all-in for a fuck and massage, and I thought they were going to give me a choice of girls, but it was nothing like that. I dont recommend the place, but for the record the details are Sauan Bath House on Tiyushang Road.

They led me into the locker room and indicated I should shower. Some young men were there to help me along the way. Then I was brought to a reasonably good room with a massage table and was offered tea, which I accepted, though it never was actually delivered. A chubby woman, about 4 in appearance, came in and went over the rates 600RMB HK, 800RMB between breasts, 1200RMB BJ (dont know if CBJ or BBBJ because I did not opt for it). I was just going for the 600RMB but she pressured me into the 800RMB Spanish thing (Steve Nave needs to learn to put his foot down).

She wasnt well enough endowed to do much with her breasts, so it was really more like a baby-oil HJ, good enough but not great. She made a weak show of making pleasurable groans I hate it when women do that - I find it really distracting since I know its a show.. She left for awhile (showered?) and when she came back she went over the prices again I could not figure out why, we failed to communicate. After a while of trying, she gave up and called the lady manager who spoke some English. The manager explained that the 800RMB was for the service, and that it would be 258RMB more for the room. I balked and said she had told me 600RMB all-in for basic service. It seemed my masseuse was not planning on the body massage part of the deal, and I insisted on that. Eventually they agreed to waive the room and give me the massage.

The body massage was not altogether worthless, but it was only about 15 minutes and not very skilled. Some parts of it were effective, for some parts I was afraid she might injure me from lack of skill.

In showering after I discovered that the men in the shower room also expected a 100RMB tip for helping me with towels etc. The guy who opened my locker and handed me my clothes also expected a tip but I balked. When I paid the bill, they also wanted 10 RMB for the paper shorts and shirt I wore. All in all a very expensive HJ and poor massage for 910RMB.

I expressed my dissatisfaction politely to the cabby, explained that in Beijing I got an nice hotel fuck for 500RMB (5 hours, 2 pops, see recent report there). I told him this bath house was tai gway (too expensive). He said a fuck in Hangzhou was 1000RMB so I wonder why he didnt bring me to find that? Probably he got a cut from the overpriced bath house. I bet the locals dont get asked the prices I was charged I think they would go out of business.

I don't speak more than a few words of Chinese, and I think that's a barrier and an invitation to be ripped off. I should have just said no when I saw the woman and the prices. Im not very good at putting my foot down to get what I want, so my name for now is still Steve Nave. This hobby is a mixed bag for me some outstanding and memorable experiences, some outstandingly bad experiences, and all those others in between.

Steve Naive
05-24-04, 11:27
BTW the Nanshan Road "bar area" means pubs and discos for regular people, not necessarily pros. In the three bars I visited, I did not see any obvious pros. Freebies might be possible. There must be pros somewhere, but other than the bath house I failed to find them in my short time there.

Secret Hunter
05-26-04, 18:56
Steve Naive,

My guess is that the cab driver got a fat cut from what you paid. Although FS is not usually provided at the first time you met girls in Sauna, many of those girls in Sauna have good oral skills...and never rush. You may want to try the following next time:

Jin Shan (golden mountain) hotel sauna, ask for #66, a sichuan(?) girl with big boobs. She offered FS if she "like you".

Eastern Sauna, Bao tsu lu Rd near West Lake and Children's Square, ask for #5, a slim girl with high working attitude. Offered FS the 2nd time I "ordered" her.

Disclaimer: the turnover rate of girls in sauna is high, and the last time I visited those sauna is about 3 months ago, so the number may be wrong.
Lakeview (Wan Hu) Hotel, the place I usually live when I visite the city, has sauna at the basement, too. About 3 weeks ago I went there with my friends. The girl I chose is a 9, but I forgot her name and number since I was half-drunk.

Total damage is 500-600 RMB. Besides the 400RMB tip(btw, just sign on the paper and pay at the front desk) to the girl who served you, You don't need to tip anybody. If they want more from you, just laugh at them and pretend to walk away.

My local friends told me all the above and I followed. Never missed.

Don't know experiences of other people, but I never have any luck from Nan Shan Lu Rd bar area. 3 weeks ago I met a girl in stadium Bar area and had one night stand with her for free, totally, she even paid for the beer we drank. A 6 with great energy, but could not reach her the next time since her cell is off.

china
06-01-04, 11:09
Spent a couple of nights at Xiaoshan last month for a conference at International Hotel.

Walked across the canla and onto the shopping sreets and found a few BBS. After shopping for a while, found one BSS on the right hand side with only 1 solitary girl, but she was beautiful and sexy. Full buxoma and nice fleshy body. Eager to chat and pleasing in her ways. Brought her to the hotel for 300 RMB for 1 hour. She was happy to come to a nice hotel room , showered and before long, done daty on her and she was literally screaming and covering her mouth.

Cost a little more than than at BBS but he privacy is worth it.

There are at least 3 BBS on that street.

Gallis
06-28-04, 18:50
I stayed at the Sofitel in Hangzhou.

Went downstairs to the Sauna looking for massage and something extra.

Unfortunately I ignored the preceding signs that this place is a legit-only establishement.

One hour later I found myself 580RMB short, with a shitty mood.
Even HJ was not in the menu. Although I must admit the girl was hot.

Definitely NOT recommended.

Hope this will help the fellows.

Gallis.

Wicked SH
07-27-04, 10:13
Gallis,

We have all felt that frustration. I suggest you unleash rosey palm and her four sisters to take care of your xiao didi.

No need to get blue balls from the teases in your hotel.

Rayzor
09-08-04, 07:15
Hello all. My first post to this board. A lurker for a coulple of years with nothing worth posting, until now.

I was in Hangzhou about 1 month ago. I stayed at the HoJo's. I had a weekend free so I decided to go on a recon mission. Several nights earlier from the company bus, I had noticed several BBS near the hotel by their pink fluorescent lighting.

HoJo's is on Genshan Rd. Head east from the hotel, crossing Jichang Rd. I headed east to start with the recon mission. All the while I am getting the long stares from people I always get while in Hangzhou. I stand out like a spot on the wall. (read between the lines).

I passed 5 BBS and continued along Genshan Rd. When Genshan Rd turns into an overcrossing, this smaller road turns north onto Qiutao Rd. There are 3 more BBS within 50 yds of the corner. One shop had 3 ladies standing out waving at me to come there. I waved back and kept walking because I was on a recon mission. I followed the s-curve, walked about 100 yds, took a photo of a girl wearing tight white pants standing at the door of a small restaurant. Continued walking, looked back and saw her go into a barbershop next to the restaurant.

I decided I had walked far enough in the hot sun and decided to head back to the hotel. So I head back down the path I had come and then decided to end the recon mission and go into the shop where the waving ladies were.

Walk in say Ni Hao, they say Ni Hao. Was invited to sit down. The place is pink inside with 4 chairs, a large mirror, and hair styling stuff, like in a hair salon. They spoke no English, and I speak no Chinese. The mamasan tells a girl to take me to the back massage rooms.

We head to the back. I sit in the reclining chair and she begins to massage my arms and starts talking. I do understand a little, and what I dont understand I try to find it in my Chinese book. After about 15 minutes the mamasan comes back and they start talking to each other. Finally she says in English, go to bed. I say yes. She says 300 for her and 50 for the house. She leaves to get something, comes back and leads me to the back where there are two more rooms. The rooms are behind a locked metal gate door.

This girl had dyed blond hair, perfect B cup tits, and thin and very little pubic hair. Protection goes on, covered bj, then fs with multiple positions for about 45 minutes. It was hot and humid that day, and I was sweatin a lot. I finish up, we head back to the massage room. I pay her, then we head to the front. Pay the 50 to the mamasan. She asks and gestures will I come back to their fine establishment. Of course I say yes.

Monday nite: I took a walk to get an official count of the nearby shops. Head east from the hotel, cross the street, stand on the northeast corner. If one goes north, there are 4 within a 100 yards, and another one a half mile further. If one goes east, where I went Saturday, you will find 6 within a half mile, then 4 around the bend, then at least one more past the S-curve. I had a migrane coming on and called it a night. I really needed a real massage. The hotel massage rooms weren't due to open for another month.

Wednesday night, I decided to just take a slow stroll down Genshan Rd. Passed three shops which are clustered together, then further down passed one, and two of the girls inside come running out and waving me to come back. I thought about it for a moment, but kept walking. . I continue to walk and head around the bend, pass by an internet caf, pass by the place I visited Saturday. I continued pass the s-curve, and it started to drizzle. So I head back, pass by two barbershops. A guy in one runs to the door to yell hello as I was passing by. Obviously he is a papasan wanting me to use his establishment to get a haircut from his girls. I wave back and head into the shop I went to on Saturday.

I am invited to sit down. The girl I was with Saturday starts telling the other girls my size. Thru 5 minutes of impossible communication I finally figured out they wanted me to pick one. I really didnt care so I put my water bottle on the table and spun it. It had water in it so it didnt spin right. I ask for a pen and spin it, but it doesnt spin right either. I saw a deck of cards on the table so I ask for them. I have the three other girls pick one. High card wins. The winner was a cute girl, with long black hair with a nice butt. I was told we have to wait because the two rooms in the back were being used.

We head back. Covered up and went to work. Tight. Started out okay, but she started moving too much. The movements were counteracting mine, so we change positions. Change again and again. Put her on top, cowgirl. Problem! Shes not riding the pony correctly, and it started to hurt. The pain got to a point where I said stop. Told her to finish me off with a hj. Not a smart ideal. Quit strangling me! Stopped the action and got dressed. Paid and left. As I was leaving the mamasan asked will I return, and I said yes.

On the walk back near the hotel, I passed one of the girls from the shop sitting on her bike reading messages on her cell phone. She is short with short brown hair and dimples. She was in small tight shorts. Walked up to her and said hello. If I could speak a little more Chinese, I thought about inviting her up to my room to take care of some unfinished business. But the thought of having her walk with me thru the large lobby with all the people in it because a tour bus had just arrived at 1030pm, was not appealing. Although, I could have told her to come up a little later.

All in all, a good trip to Hangzhou. HoJo's is new and is in a better place (more BBS close by) than the hotel were I stayed before on previous visits.

Later.

Daring Mood
09-28-04, 10:58
After a two weeks in Hangzhou I conclude that this place is now on a par with Shenzhen and Shanghai.... and it definately wasn't twelve months ago. You can get anything and everything in Hangzhou, and it is relatively easy to find. Walk some of the bustling alleyways behind your hotel and you can't miss those pink-lighted BBS where they wouldn't even know what to do with a scissors and a bottle of shampoo. Just walk in. Yep they can be a bit thrashy, and some of the beds look as if they had a last change of sheets six months ago, but the ladies range 7-9 on the WSG sliding scale, they aim to please, are mostly GFE and prices are much more competitive than Shanghai and Shenzhen.

Driving at night these pink lights / the revolving barbershop signs can be seen everywhere (maybe it's all a mark of respect to the PRC's founders and upcoming National Day).

Then there are the discos. Try Wa Ha Ha disco after 11.00pm for local talent. Try Kana's Bar after 11.00pm for international talent. Walk along Nanshan Lu along the lake same time and you'll definately be propositioned. Walk out of your hotel on Yanan Lu, and you'll be propositioned.

If you don't think there is any fun to be had in Hangzhou then you haven't even left your hotel room. Hangzhou now has it all, and I have been going there for years. Marco Polo hit the hammer on the nail when he announced that "in Heaven

There is paradise; on Earth there is Hangzhou..."

IMHO of course

Daring Mood

Cento
09-29-04, 22:30
Daring Mood,

How about WORLD TRADE CENTER HOTEL

Any info about it? because I will stay there next month.

And whats the deal with club paradise in the hotel

(Disco Bar, Talking Bar and SKTV) ?

(any call girls phone numbers Good and clean?)

Thanks in advance

I received this in a follow-up email:

"That hotel has a pretty amazing sauna massage, at least it was two years ago, and don't suspect it has changed. Probably the most memorable massage I've ever had. Bing Bing provided the works twice in a VIP room (all the rooms seem to be VIP rooms), all very sensual. Suffice to say lots of freebies from Bing Bing thereafter. She is now married and preggers, but that didn't stop her calling her friend to keep me company during my last visit, because she didn't want to be lonely. In March it was a prior to marriage threesome, in which she wanted to experiment going down on her friend, while her friend also wanted to experience her first foreign prior to marriage... Sums up Hangzhou women, friendly, sensual, and accommodating.

As for Club Paradise my recommendation is to first scout out the places mentioned in my previous email. Club Paradise has all the bells and whistles that are typical of kitschy glitz that is monied China, expensive..lot's of different disco rooms with different themes, but I would say you have to pay hard to score."

Member #2206
10-01-04, 10:30
Vander22,

In World Trade Center hotel, there is Sauna downstairs, very good.

Cento
10-02-04, 08:08
Thanks 2206

But can you be more specific?

And with Club Paradise what is to be axpected there?

Any one know?

Thanks in advance

Daring Mood
10-02-04, 09:39
Vander 22,

Interesting you should mention this hotel. As Member #2206 confirms this is perhaps this has perhaps the best sauna I have been in in China. At least it was two years ago. All the rooms are VIP. Jiao Jiao was the star performer very sensual, and every time I have returned since then we meet for freebies. Consider these scenarios: Jiao Jiao's friend Bing Bing is marrying a local government official, however she wants to experience a Lao Wai prior to marriage. This has happened three times with different girls, and twice Jiao Jiao has joined in the fun. Last month met a heavily pregnant Jiao Jiao (also recently married), and while chatting away doorbell rings. Yes, she doesn't want me to be lonely, enter Lily.

Hangzhou women are accommodating in many ways, not just in terms of their friendliness. They like to be treated well (and I'm not referring to money). Most of the Hangzhou women I have met have fairly stable careers or marriages, and they are not as materialistic as their Shanghai brethren.

I don't have any numbers to send you but really you should have a great time if you start with the places mentioned in my previous email.
IMHO

Daring Mood

Daring Mood
10-02-04, 10:31
Well continuing with the "in Heaven There is paradise; on Earth there is Hangzhou..." theme this is Bing Bing.

In this pic she certainly resemmbles a well plucked Christmas turkey. Imagine her served up for Christmas lunch.

IMHO

Daring Mood

Cento
10-09-04, 11:47
Daring Mood,

First of all thanks.

Intresting story about Jiao Jiao.

Can you or anyone else please tell me how exactly this thing works at the world trade cent. hotel?

Do you just go to the desk at the sauna and say you want a girl for bj?

Do you call the front desk and say you want a massage in your room?

If anyone knows please tell us.

Willie Joe
10-11-04, 09:58
Don't know about the world trade center but try the International Hotel. Its right in the center of town, in front of the Radisson, 4th or 5th floor (can't remember). just ask for a massage, after you get washed they will take you to a clean room, girls are all good, 7's or 8's (one's i have had so far), first time with a girl, everything goes except FS, however if she likes you then it is her decision. Have't had any massage yet but lots of baby oil.

Usually if you want FS should pick them up from the BBS at the back of the hotel, they will bring you to one of the rooms but these girls are not as good as the massage parlour (5's or 6's). I guess the 2 businesses don't want to compete with each other so one is for fun and the other is FS.

Prices vary usually 600 for the massage around 1 hr with 2 and if you've got the enegry, 3 squirts! FS at the BBS between 400 to 600, but i was too tired to nego. Personally I enjoyed the massage better.

Radission has a similar massage service, a little more legite and a little more expensive at 700 but you get a real massage as well.

Anyone got more fresh info on the Hangzhou scene?

Daring Mood
10-14-04, 00:39
Vander22,

As I recall you dont have to be so directly, just ask if the massage is in a single room or open room? They'll take you down a dark hall to a dimly lit, but clean room, with no passing traffic... of course everyone knows the intention.

Regarding the Paradise Disco, I would recommend for mongering purposes you still stick to the names in my original message. This place really typifies new glitzy / kitsch Hangzhou, multiple stages, mulitple themes, multiple floors, but expensive. Don't really meet single women on their own, unlike Wa Ha Ha.

IMHO

Daring Mood

Daring Mood
10-14-04, 00:46
Willie Joe,

Fresh Info on Hangzhou scene attached.

Daring Mood

Daring Mood
10-14-04, 00:49
"Houston, docking went smoothly, no complications"... Yes in Heaven There is paradise; on Earth there is Hangzhou..." :-)

Daring Mood

Sex Hunter
10-28-04, 10:32
Daring mood

Where is "Wa Ha Ha" disco n kana's bar? And any other places to monger?

Sexhunter

RasSpewtin
11-30-04, 00:41
I met a girl from Hangzhou for the first time in a Shenzhen night club earlier this month. She caught me eying her as she danced with her friend, and she returned my glances with an inviting one of her own.

So, I mustered up a little nerve and walked over for a chat. She spoke zero English, so my limited skills in Mandarin proved to be quite useful. She was drop-dead gorgeous, with the face of an angel. Long slender legs, tall, and walked like a model. And from what I gathered in our conversation, she actually was a model. Well, either a model or an off-duty KTV girl doing a damn good job in passing for a model.

I was not able to stay up late enough that night to pursue the pleasure of her company at the time, but I did get her mobile number. Turns out she was rather hard to reach, and she forwarded all of my SMS messages to her friend for translation, which just added to the complexity. I think that she was playing a little "hard to get", and I got the feeling that she had been told how gorgeous she was a few times too many.

Which brings me to my question. Do you guys find that the "regular" girls in Hangzhou are difficult to approach in general? Or do you find that picking them up is about as easy as with girls from any other region of China?

I am asking because if this girl was any indication of some of the beauty to be had in Hangzhou, then it might just warrant a trip up there one day.

By the way, is there a reason why the Hangzhou page is so quiet? I am the first one to post here in a long time.

Raz

Z Fantasy
12-05-04, 06:51
I spent a night at Howard Johnsons on a recent tour to China. They have a massage place and 2 floors of KTV (1 floor is right next to the KTV rooms).

Anyway, they speak little English, but mama-san said that if I take 2 massages (Rmb128 each), then I get a special massage. The whole process was very coodinated with me being escorted the whole time. I got to pick from 2 girls. The massage was OK and the girl was sweet. After the first massage, she offerred services for Rmb600 or Rmb800. I know I should have bargained, but I didn't feel like it :( The service was ok and the girl sweet. I got much more bang for the buck in Shanghai later in the week.

By the way, the hotel was really modern and very clean. They even have a tap for filtered water in the room. Not sure what the prices are, as the tour was prepaid.

On the way out, I saw a bunch of young girls headed into theKTV rooms. Does anyone know if the KTV lounges provide girls and if service is available at these places? If so, any info would be appreciated.

OldAsiaHand
12-07-04, 02:09
Raz,

I met a cab driver in HZ years ago. I told him that I heard HZ had some of the most beautiful girls in China. He told me that used to be true but most of them were already in Guangdong Province. Unless you have business or want to see the sights (beautiful scenery!), there is no need to make the trip for the girls. There are plenty of HZ girls where you already hunt.

Just my POV.

OAH

Thirty Mins
12-10-04, 20:00
Guys,

Hangzhou girls are lovely, but they are great at squeezing money out of men. I know Chinese hobbyists who can't manage to get laid for less than 800 kuai in that town. The cheapest I've managed is 700, and that was after fierce bargaining.

The Hangzhou Continental Hotel has good room service, by the way... please don't overpay, they're spoiled enough there!

Cento
01-11-05, 17:03
Does anyone know of escort service in Hanzhou?

Vvndr

Stew2
03-02-05, 22:17
Well, recently visited Hangzhou for a couple days. As others have reported, it seems harder to do successful mongering here than elsewhere. Pity too, since the girls in Hangzhou are, on average, about the most beautiful! Really pleasant just to walk around and look at all those gorgeous faces.

Tried the sauna at the Lake View Hotel, which was an ok experience, but limited to CBJ. The boys wanted tips... were a bit pushy for my taste.

Tried the KTV in the Ramada where I was staying. I had not tried a KTV before, but thought it would be fun to see what was up. Wandered in and was immediately pounced on by a guy who quickly introduced me to a good looking girl, seeing that I was coming by myself. I was informed the experience would cost 100 for the room and 100 for the girl, plus drinks... well, they kept bringing drinks and food I didn't order, and then another girl came in because she was "needed" because the first one didn't speak much English, and mamasan wanted an extra 100 tip, and the english speaking girl informed me I should tip the boy who had introduced me to the place... blah blah... I could see this adding up to a large figure quickly. So I paid them off with what I had in my pocket (I had been suspecting this might be the way things would go, so I took a limited amount of cash with me) which was about 200 less than the "bill" (which I think had come to around 1100 by then... - but I pointed out that (a) I had not requested the food, had not eaten it and had told them to stop bringing it, so I wouldn't pay for it, and (b) this is all I had, take it or leave it... so they took 600 for the room/beers/food and 300 for the mama andn girls and I split.

Bottom line - I wouldn't bother with KTV again. Unless you are pretty savvy about this scene or don't mind dropping the yuan for the experience, it's pretty mich a rip-off.

I did have the beginnings of luck in a BBS. After wandering for a long time to find one, I was welcomed and they agreed to "massage" for 150, but when I got into the room with the girl, all she really wanted to do was HJ, which I wasn't interested in, so I left with no charge.

Hangzhou wasn't nearly as easy for me as just about anywhere else in China... but I must say, the girls are really beautiful there... maybe that made it all worth it anyway!

Cento
03-07-05, 05:37
Hello My Freinds
I Met 2 Girls In Hangzhou But Need Help With Language.
Please Someone Tell Me What Hi Gang Lai Mu Means.
Because I Need To Know What They Are Saying To Me .
Thanks Vndr

Cento
03-07-05, 10:13
Hello My Freinds
I Met 2 Girls In Hangzhou But Need Help With Language.
Please Someone Tell Me What Hi Gang Lai Mu Means.
Because I Need To Know What They Are Saying To Me .
Thanks Vndr

Percent99
04-11-05, 09:27
Does anyone know of any hotels that have service massage (and more?)

Also any hotels with bars that girls hang out? (pay or not) Whole night or not?

Guy I
04-11-05, 09:35
On my 6th visit to HZ I finally found some action (previous experiences were limited to pre-negotiated deals where the girls were no-shows, a terrible sauna "full service" rip-off and several unsuccessful KTV visits). I was beginning to refer to HZ as "the dry city" ;-)

There is a club called Topred very close to the new Hyatt Regency near West Lake that has a dance club, KTV, and other stuff. Leave the front entrance of the hotel, turn left, then left again. Took a hottie from the KTV back to the Hyatt for great full service. Her name was Faye, number 22B, if I recall correctly. Damage was 1.2k for the girl (plus KTV expense) for all night. Other than one nasty fart in the shower, the experience was great albeit definitely more expensive than what I am used to in other cities in China... She showed great initiative in terms of positions and really was into DATY.

Looks: 8
Service: 8.5 (but no BBBJ)
Attitude: 8
Cost: 5

Cheers!

B Cowey
05-17-05, 16:45
Last time I stayed in Hangzhou I stayed at the Holiday Inn. On the 24th floor I think is the hotel bar which is now half the size as there is a new club in the other half run by an outside concession. Think it is called the Formula One bar or something to do with F1 cars. Anyway as I was there with my girlfriend and couldnt explore I wondered if any out there had stayed here and tryed the club. It looked like a drinking club with about 20 pretty girls waiting on the customers (all guys). Any knowledge of his bar as to whether the girls will go out of the bar into the hotel rooms would be useful as I will be back there in a month, alone this time!

Superforce99
05-18-05, 09:05
I was in Hangzhou a few weeks ago on business, but was trapped by the deadly combination of my wife and business associates the whole time. It was my first time to HZ and I thought it was an elegant city with plenty of modern and traditional architecture mixed together throughout the city.

Ofcourse, I kept my eyes out for any mongering opportunities and it seemed like the Westlake area had plenty of possiblities, especially at night, but my circumstances prevented me from confirming. But definately walk around the area near the Westlake Starbucks and you'll see some gals walking around. Again, cannot confirm quality or price.

Something interesting I did see was during one particularly long-ass drive to a outlying area, I noticed what must have been 30-40 BBS just lined up along several blocks. It was about 3-4pm at this time, so not all of them were open, but the ones that were open were obviously full-service BBS; several bored-looking young gals in revealing clothing sitting in run-down looking, customer-less barbershops that look like no haircutting could seriously go on. I immediately tried to note down where I was at the time and can only provide this semi-detailed info: I was at about the 500 block of Hang Hai Lu (for those Chinese readers: Hang from Hangzhou, Hai from Shanghai) and the BBS must have begun around the 400 block before I noticed them.

In general, I'm confident to say a major BBS area in Hangzhou is the 400-600 block of Hang Hai Lu.

Hopefully, some mongers out there can use this info and put up some reports. Good luck.

Batman
05-18-05, 16:59
Right down from the Crown Plaza Hotel (with your back to the front door go left 200 meters)there is a strip of BBS's, #70 was the address with the best girls, good service, 100rmb FS, not to clean rooms but nice girls.
I was there 2 weeks ago durring the May 1st holiday week.

Cebu Local
05-19-05, 00:41
Johnny and Batman,Thanks for the Info.I will be in Hangzhou next week.Maybe I can put it to good use

Batman
05-22-05, 14:17
I tried to post a picture of the place here Cebu Local but it wont do anything I will try and post it in the photo section

Percent99
05-22-05, 18:59
pics have to be small size.

Batman
05-26-05, 16:46
Here is the photo of the places near the Crowne Plaza.
Have fun

Cebu Local
05-31-05, 23:42
I just returned from a 2 day trip to Hangzhou.Basically I stayed at the Howard Johnson and tried the in-house Massage Service.You pay 250 RM for a special ladies massage then you pay 500 -600 RM for special services from the girl.I can confirm that it was ok,but nothing like my Shanghai Trip.I wish I had time to try the BBS,But Shanghai Drained me literally.

Percent99
06-07-05, 08:01
How about Hyatt hotel?any service here going on ?

Foreigner
07-08-05, 15:34
not sure why there are so many negative reports about hangzhou in this forum. just got back from there stayed at the hangzhou jun wang holiday hotel (tel: 28926788).

place is new, clean, close to lake and the phone rings every couple hours to check if you need "massage". cost rmb100 for the hotel and rmb400 for the girl. fantastic, i had two girls one after the other and didn't even have to dial the number which by the way is the only number prominently displayed by the bed next to a selection of condoms and chinese medicines for "pro-longing the pleasure". the girls were a bit "professional" but a bit of sweet talk soon slowed them down to a more gfe speed.

what more could a busy guy ask for?

OldAsiaHand
07-09-05, 03:06
not sure why there are so many negative reports about hangzhou in this forum. just got back from there stayed at the hangzhou jun wang holiday hotel (tel: 28926788).

place is new, clean, close to lake and the phone rings every couple hours to check if you need "massage". cost rmb100 for the hotel and rmb400 for the girl. fantastic, i had two girls one after the other and didn't even have to dial the number which by the way is the only number prominently displayed by the bed next to a selection of condoms and chinese medicines for "pro-longing the pleasure". the girls were a bit "professional" but a bit of sweet talk soon slowed them down to a more gfe speed.

what more could a busy guy ask for?

foreigner,

more bbs with 150-200 rmb st action.

oah

Gaolei
07-11-05, 18:16
I know they make wine in this city just south of Hangzhou, but what else goes on here? Anyone been here? Any advice on hotels and monger sites. I prefer the bar type venues. Thanks!

China Alle Way
07-25-05, 09:37
Anyone or expats in Yiwu?

Kinda boring to "fork" e bbs shops. Thou had try a few times.

Tinybobo1002
08-07-05, 00:51
OAH, please tell us more information about Hangzhou BBS, e.g. location and directions, price and safety. Thanks a million.

OldAsiaHand
08-07-05, 05:36
OAH, please tell us more information about Hangzhou BBS, e.g. location and directions, price and safety. Thanks a million.

Tatyu,

I was only being sarcastic in response to Foreigner's question, "What more could a busy guy ask for?". I have not found many FS BBS in Hangzhou city proper, but I have not hunted that much there either.

The only BBS I have done are in Xiao Shan the town where the airport is. Across the street from the Golden Horse Hotel there are a couple on the main drag and a few more straight down the alley directly across from the hotel. 200 RMB for take-out service to the hotel. There is one sort of in a fork in the alley about 150 meters in. They had the best talent of the lot when I was last there about a year ago.

OAH

Cherry Buster
08-17-05, 16:42
I know it's been posted in this forum before but Hanzhou is known for scams at the KTVs and always with the taxis. It's a tourist town for Chinese so I think that's why there are so many scams. I've been afraid to try the BBS in HZ because I get the feeling that everything is setup to scam chinese tourists and foreigners. I even overheard a guy complaining about the taxi scams at the airport, which I escaped just because I couldn't understand what the driver was saying. I guess he thought I was getting upset and so didn't try to take me for "ride". I talked to a Chinese person later to check to see if my fare was fair and he actually paid twice what I paid! LOL.

Basicly always tell them to use the meter and check to see if you're going in the right direction. Don't trust them in general. Good advice I think all over the world for taxies.

Here's another story in HZ. I'm no expert at Chinese KTVs but I've done KTVs before so I saw a scam coming when they kept bringing drinks and food that we didn't order. I let it go for a short time because the price they originally quoted was relatively low and I thought maybe my friends ordered the stuff. Mistake. They later doubled the price of everything and said the prices are on the menu. Basicly the room booker lied to us about the prices. When they outright lie like this, then it's impossible to avoid a problem. You could tell they do this all the time because they did the show of bringing in a big guy and then bringing in manager, etc. I think the manager knew I saw through all this so the manager just left and brought the big guy back in. My host eventually ended up negotiating down to about $300 for 4 people plus some tips for the girls. It wasn't that expensive and I wasn't the one being taken but I was mad since they lied so obviously. If my Chinese friends weren't so loyal to me, it could have gotten really ugly I'm sure. If you're caught in a similar situation, tell them to call the police if they think they're being robbed, pay them what you think you owe them, and just walk out. I've never been robbed / scammed before because I'm very careful about these things and I was still fooled this time.

Sorry for the negative post but I think people should be aware of these types of things. My feeling is that other cities in China don't have this high occurence of scams. In general random violence is less in China than compared to the USA but scams, petty theft, muggings, etc. are much more frequent than in the good ole USA.

Always watch your ass in China (and not just the asses of all those pretty girls).

Trotter717
08-28-05, 07:02
I agree with everything Cherry Buster said in his message. I am also a very careful mongerer, and I speak Mandarin. But, I got taken in a HZ KTV last week in much the same way as he described. A couple of things to watch out for: the boy who brings the drinks into the room will bring in a full tray, but many of the bottles are actually empty. He'll put them below the small table along with the other legitimate empties. Then, at the end of the evening, you'll discover three or four times the number of actual bottles than those you've actually consumed. Also, there's the age-old routine of the girls ordering food, candy, drinks, etc. without first asking you.

In my case, the girls got too greedy too quickly. I noticed that extra drinks (beyond the beers) and chocolates were appearing. I immediately called in the room manager for an accounting and learned that the list of items was already quite long. I refused to pay for anything I didn't personally order regardless of whether the girls drank or ate the item. I went through the bill and crossed out everything I hadn't ordered. But, I couldn't dispute the empty beer bottles, of course, even though if we'd actually drunk that many beers it would have been eight bottles per person in less than an hour! Anyway, after arguing, waiting around for about 30 minutes and refusing to pay any more, I got the bill cut in half and hit the road after a $200 lesson learned.

I spend a lot of time in HZ, especially this year, and I've never found any place with good service for mongerers. The BBS, saunas, KTVs... none of them are worth visiting, in my opinion. Such a shame since the girls of HZ are typically very attractive and there are so many college girls there.

Heel Lover
08-28-05, 15:45
Basically Hang Zhou is a good city for sight-seeing, but has a very bad reputation of this kind of scams at KTVs or other similar places. This kind of stories have been reported by hundreds of tourists (Chinese as well as foreigners).

The best way to avoid those scams at KTVs is - not go. There are many better city all around China where you can have realy fun in KTVs. If for some reason you do want to make a try in Hang Zhou, you'd better be with some local guide who has tried their service before. If you are alone and dare enough (or horny enough) to try, at least DON'T FOLLOW ANY TAXI DRIVER. Try to find one by yourself, the ones with a lot of customer cars in the parking lot seems less possible to get you rip-off.

BTW, similar scam story has also been reported in Cheng Du.

HL

Blacklisted
09-07-05, 07:45
Thanks everyone for the excellent advice.

Seeing as though Hangzhou, Suzhou and Wuxi are a stones throw from Shanghai, which would be the best to visit? No particular criteria, just opinions for those who may be in Shanghai and want to check these cities out.

I've only been to Wuxi and went to a nightclub (no idea which), and there were plenty of hotties around, as well as weird militarily dressed dudes encouraging patrons to get up and dance. It was bizarre from western standpoint, and far removed from Shanghai scene.

Hendrik
09-18-05, 20:08
I only passed by in Hangzhou and did not look for pay-sex, but want to share nevertheless a few observations that I made during a recent visit:

1. The availability of pay-sex opportunities in the centre of Hangzhou (close to the lakes) outside of the hotel services seemed limited - or at least not obvious to find. I did not notice any BBS while walking around the city.

2. There are, however, plenty of SW and touts in front of the large hotels, also along the lake-side roads. The parking before the Hyatt seems a good place to look - at least 10 girls (most of them in their 20s with average to OK looks) offered me massage while passing by. Many off them seemed to be together with male guys (probably touts), so take care when making arranging. I would personally only negotiate with the girl and only pay after service. Good time seemed to be 9-11pm.

3. When I got back to my hotel, I entered the escalator together with 2 women around 30, who left at the same floor as me ... and immediately offered me massage. They asked for RMB 1000 RMB (for both of them), but went quickly down to 600 RMB when I started to walk away. They did not look like pros - more like amateurs, that took all there courage and sneaked in the hotel. They were not really stunners, so the idea of spending time with both of them did not seem so attractive.

Percent99
09-20-05, 06:26
3. When I got back to my hotel, I entered the escalator together with 2 woman around 30s, who left at the same floor as me ... and immediately offered me massage. They asked for RMB 1000 RMB (for both of them), but went quickly down to 600 RMB when I started to walk away. They did not look like pros - more like amateurs, that took all there courage and sneaked in the hotel. They were not really stunners, so the idea of spending time with both of them did not seem so attractive.

Hendrik witch hotel?did you stay at??

Chop Sticks
09-20-05, 14:46
I can not comfirm Hendriks overservation. I didnt notice any SW action at the Hyatt. However a few touts nearby and at Yang An Lu (or Yong An Lu).

I followed a mami tout who told me only 100 RMB. She brought me to the Ramada Hotel KTV. LOL - what a joke, of course immideatly i went away back to my Hotel. She followed me and offered a girl come to my room for 600. After haggling and a phone call her lowest offer was 400. My limit was 300, so i passed.

Anyway Hangzhou so beautiful, so much to see. If you dont stay for long-term, really not worth to get laid there for that high price. Their are cheaper places in China.

Tinybobo1002
09-20-05, 23:49
I can not comfirm Hendriks overservation. I didnt notice any SW action at the Hyatt. However a few touts nearby and at Yang An Lu (or Yong An Lu).

I followed a mami tout who told me only 100 RMB. She brought me to the Ramada Hotel KTV. LOL - what a joke, of course immideatly i went away back to my Hotel. She followed me and offered a girl come to my room for 600. After haggling and a phone call her lowest offer was 400. My limit was 300, so i passed.

Anyway Hangzhou so beautiful, so much to see. If you dont stay for long-term, really not worth to get laid there for that high price. Their are cheaper places in China.


The local government has somewhat limit the sex industry in Hangzhou to maintain West lake as one of the top destinations for tourist. The locals will go to Wuzhou, about 1 hour drive north west, to get service at a low price. I will check it out after the national holiday.

Sinocruiser
09-21-05, 22:53
I have visited Hangzhou 5 times this year for business. I have found a few places with consistant FS service. Try Dragon Hotel on No.7 Shuguang Road. They have a sauna on the ground floor, and it is open from 3:00 pm to 2: 00 am. Needless to say there are more girls later part of the day. The typcial charge is 600 RMB for FS. What the girls will do for you depends on the girls. BBBJ, DIY and FS are routine. You go in, they take you to the shower and ask for full service, or "chuan tao". No fuss, no muss. The girls there are usually 6-9 scale. They will try to sell you the idea of two girls.

I won't bother with suggestion of girls, since the turnover is high. You do not have to be a hotel guest to use the sauna service. If you are a guest, you can always put the tab on your room too.

One more note. How you can spot whether there is FS in Chinese hotels is simple. Just look up Ctrip.com or Elong.com. Most 3 star and up hotels have some kind of sex service. The code names are "beauty salon", "sauna", or "health club". If you find the combination of 2 or 3, it is almost guaranteed they can do FS.

Have fun!

John Siron
10-11-05, 03:17
Am out in Yiwu, Zhejiang for business in a few weeks. Anyone know where to stay and where to play? What are the good saunas and ktvs? What are the prices like? Any info would be helpful.

Heel Lover
10-13-05, 19:10
Spent few days in Hang Zhou for business and in the very last day, I run into this gold mine.

Given so many negative feedbacks (and some of my bad experiences before), I was not expecting much of Hang Zhou. A local partner took me to the famous local restaurant named Zhang Sheng Ji for dinner (BTW, the restaurant is good). On our way there we passed a street with lot of houses marked with "foot massage", with all the similar dim pink light and girs in mini skirt sitting on couch, everyone can tell there are more than "foot massage". It's the first time I ever seen this kind of scene in a major city in China.

I managed to remember the position of the street and then take a cab to the restaurant again at about 10:30pm. Here is the detailed direction for you: get to the famous Zhang Sheng Ji restaurant (all taxi drivers know it), with your face toward the restaurant, the street is just few steps away to your right.

Went down to the street, I browsed it down to the other end. There are about 15-20 houses on both sides, each with 3-6 girls sitting inside. One interesting thing is the girls in each house are in kind of uniforms - most of which are mini skirts.

I chose one looks larger than others, named "Guang Li Beauty Salon (in Chinese only)". It's at the far end from the restaurant, left side, just beside a bar. I went in and there were 5 girls, looks from 6-8. When I was hestitating what to do one of them stoodup and asked "Qiao Bei (back massage)" or "Xi Tou (head wash)", I said "Qiao Bei". Then she led me inside. It's a pity that I was little nervous and embarrssed so could not make a choice from all the 5 girls.

There were several small rooms, each with a massage bed, a small table and a curtain, but no door. The girl said they only offer "Chui Xiao" (euphemism for BJ, which means play a flute), the cost will be 60Y to the house and 200Y for her. I tried to cut down to 200Y total, but she refused and said it's fixed price and she'll make me satisfied.

She asked me to lie down on the bed and helped me to undress - pants to knees and shirt to shoulder, both me and her. She used some wet tissue to clean my DD and tits then the job started. Lick the tits, BBBJ, suck balls, hot water and cold water, with lots of moan. I almost cannot hold for her first round of routin and had to ask her to slow down. She put my hand on her ass (she has really good skin - tight and silky) and started over from tits. Few more rounds of play then I finally released in her mouth. In my room I could hear the fake moan from a girl in next room, which made the scene really erotic.

In the middle she tried to convince me to have "shuang fei (two girls)", thinking about the advices of "same pleasure with double payment" which I read here, I didn't take the offer.

Face - 6
Body - 8
Attitude - 8 (some GFE)
Damage: 260Y for BBBJ+CIM


When I went out it was about 11pm, I took a walk backward to the restaurant then checked the other section of the same street (bypass the restaurant and go further). There are several barber shops, few "blind people massage", and also few pink "foot massage".

I must be very horny and a little crazy then - I decide to try another one. I turned back again to the main section of the street and into a small one with a blue neon sign. All similar, except the gire asked if I want "quan tao (FS)" or "ban tao (half set, which I guess is BJ)". I checked the price for BJ and it's 200+50Y. As the girl was not quite my type, I said too expensive and left.

Just cross the street I went into another one, with all girl in red mini skirts and heels. Quite the same process, 250Y for "ban tao (BJ)". The girl also tried to get me into 2-girl play or "quan tao (FS)", but I was not interested. After all the DD & tits cleaning, the interesting thing happened: she took a piece of cling film and started a CBJ. WTF? I asked why, the girl said "firstly for hygiene, secondly I just had some spicy food". Well, anyway, let's see.

It turned out that a CBJ with cling film, after one shot some 30min ago, made me, as well as the girl, very hard to achieve the job. She had to keep the fast pace for some 15min, hardly with any stop or ball sucking, and finally with help of her hand, until I made it.

Face - 7
Body - 7
Attitude - 6
Damage: 250Y for CBJ (with cling film!)


According to my experience, I'm quite sure that all the "foot massage" houses on this street provide BJ at 250Y, and most of them will provide FS (sorry, forgot to check price, I guess shall be 400Y-500Y). Hope this info helps to other mongers in Hang Zhou, and please do let me know your impressions there.

BTW, the name of the street is "Tai Ping Men Zhi Jie".

HL

Tinybobo1002
10-26-05, 01:38
Jiaxing is a town in Zhekiang, about midway between Shanghai and Hangzhou. There is not much activity there. The best hotel is Diamond hotel, where there is a sauna. I ordered room service, though, and met a girl from Northeast very close to Russia. She is a gem, stands 5 ft 2, but has a soft D cup. Total damage is 680 RMB all inclusive. Not bad an experience. Very GFF.

There is a KTV with good looking girls, but I didn't have time to check them out.

Intransit
10-31-05, 18:08
FYI, Jiaxing also just had a cholera outbreak in September.

Sinocruiser
11-09-05, 04:11
I was in HZ for a business trip last week. After finishing a meeting near Nanshan Road, I was left with the rest of the afternoon with nothing to do. I got in a cab and asked the driver to take me to a decent message place. The driver asked if I was looking for extra service, I simply asked where. This was around middle of the day, I didn't think there would be anything available this early. The fellow insisted there was a good place he knows, and he could take me there.

We pulled up to Huandao Hotel near Wulin Square, it looked like a 2-3 star hotel. The driver took me all the way up to the 6th floor and left me there. The whole place was pretty empty at the time, the staff was still doing some cleaning at the time. I did the routine shower and was lead into a small room afterwards. A short while later, a chubby girl in her late 20s showed up. I asked if I could have a different one, she said she was the only one avabilable and she promised she would make me satisfied. Being as horny as I was, I didn't resist.

The message was lousy, and I tried to find out what the total cost was going to be. She indicated 200-600 yuan depending on what package I wanted. I asked for a basic message and a BBBJ. After 30 some minutes I still couldn't finish the job, so I decided I had enough and wanted to cut it short. She got up and asked me to sign a slip, I asked how much. The total is now 1877! I said you must be joking. She said no. I said there is no way in hell I would sign for that when I was told it was 200-600 yuan. I tried to get out of the room then, she tried to block the exit. I shoved her out of the way and rushed to shower.

By the time I got to the front desk, I asked to settle the bill. I was told now the total is 2477. I started to argue my case when the manager showed up. He immediated sharted shouting at me, by then the chubby girl, the towl boy and 2 other bigger fellow showed up. They started wrestle me and pinning me to a corner. Needless to say I was nervous, and I knew then I was in big trouble. What I did notice was the stairs was right next to the front desk and I tried to move towards it. Three guys started to punch and kick me, I tried to fight back, but this was clearly not going to end in my favor. DOwn the stairs I dashed. The guys gave chase, and I could hear them yelling behind me telling others to lock the place down. By the time I got down to the first floor, I bolted to for another room. Turns out it was the kitchen for some resturant. I ran as hard as I could as they followed, and somehow I got thru the lobby and out into the streets.

I scambled to track down a cab, and there was none avaiable as I ran. Desperate as the sauna guys got closer, with bricks in their hand, I jumped into the backseat of a cab stuck at a redlight. The thugs got to the cab and threatened to crack the windows if I didn't get out. Not wanting to cause damage to the innocent driver, I asked the thugs to backoff and I would get out. Thinking they got me, they stepped back as I got out. Seeing another window, I just jumped out and took off running.

I suppose I must have been faster than those guys, after what felt like an eternity and 5 blocks later, I jumped into another cab and got away.

In retrospect, the cab driver that took me to the Huandao Hotel was in on the scheme. I was lucky to get out without too much damage, sure a few punches and kicks. This experience has dispelled whatever belief I had about the "safety" in China.

Heel Lover
11-11-05, 08:16
You are really lucky that you escaped safely, without being forced to pay the bill. And it could be very dangrous, running all the way down from 6th floor, chased by strong guys - much worse damage could have happened to youself, besides your wallet.

So try to remember rule number 1: never follow any taxi driver/pimp/tout, no matter how horny you are.

HL

Sinocruiser
11-12-05, 01:23
I was lucky to get away without serious physical harm. In the future, I will stick with the saunas in the 4-5 star hotels. I ran not because I couldn't pay the initial amount they asked for, I expected a serious beating even if I had paid.

Theojr
11-12-05, 03:16
Going to Haining.

Any recommendations on where to stay and places to go? Will be there for 4 days.

Tx.

Camieleke
11-25-05, 19:41
Hi,

Can somebody tell me if the Holiday Inn and the Radisson are girlfriendly?

And where to find girls or freebies in Hangzou?

Thanks,

C.

Dk4711
11-29-05, 11:01
Hi,

Can somebody tell me if the Holiday Inn and the Radisson are girlfriendly?

And where to find girls or freebies in Hangzou?

Thanks,

C.I was staying on Radisson I Shanghai.

There was no problem.

Mianbao
12-01-05, 13:34
I was in Hangzhou for two nights and did not have a lot of time, but went for a walk one evening near the Jeifang Lu/Jianguo Lu area. It seems a lot harder to come across BBS than in Shanghai, but was walking along one street when I came across three very basic looking locations with the usual twirling lights, with the girls calling me in through an open window.

The place I went into was very down and dirty, I checked the bed for cleanliness VERY carefully before lying down. Was quoted RMB200 for FS, plus extra for mamasan (for which I gave RMB50). Probably could negotiate RMB50 or so lower but it was late and I had been walking for ages.

Bed was curtained off only, and at one point the mamasan wanted to grab some clothes that were lying there so put her hand through and started rummaging around! Thinking they might be trying to look in my coat pockets I moved my coat right next to me out of anyone else's reach.

The girl, who I would rate 6/10 was from somewhere else in Zhejiang. Service was pretty basic, and she was straightforward about what we were there for. Takeout was very possible, she kept asking why I wasn't taking someone back to my hotel, and when I had arrived there a girl was getting on the back of a motorcycle, for delivery I presumed.

The girl said the street name was "Jianfang Lu", and runs south off Jiefang Lu to the east of Jianguo Lu. There is a KFC nearby on Jiefang Lu, if standing with your back to the KFC walk to the right and take the next right turn.

There was also some blue twirling lights with not much hair cutting going on on the next corner on the same road, north of Jiefang (i.e. walking in the opposite direction). Other than this the area seems pretty dead.

BJtemp
01-02-06, 16:04
With all the falangs and saunas and KTVs that offer girls for the picking, why ask a taxi driver and expose you're easy target??

PLEEEEEEEASE - if you're cheap, just go to a small falang; if you're affluent, just go to a KTV.

King Xavier
01-16-06, 15:22
Went to a local sauna on Moganshan Rd near the Best Western Hotel. Name of the sauna is Huai Hai Ci. Never been so blatantly ripped off. Normal sauna routine, shower, sauna, rest area. Once the massage started the girl began talking prices. Opening bid was 1700 for CBJ, AR, NO FS. I laughed and eventually talked down to 450 which is still overpaying if you include sauna comes out to about 650. When I finished the routine, went out to pay and was given a 1500rmb bill. Breakdown went like this: 200 sauna fees doubled for additional "hour" of massage, 450 tip which was also doubled for the extra hour and 200 service charge. I asked for the manager and a big thug stood up and said that he wasn't available. Mouthed off to the guy for about 5 minutes. He picks up the phone, makes a call and all of a sudden two more guys come out the back door. That's my queue. One more insult, turned around and walked out the door.

Camieleke
01-29-06, 22:20
The massage center down in the hotel is ok but only for massage. No HJ or FS!
Outside the hotel to the left and first street to the right, you will find some BBS with some girls. Not all of them are nice but you can get FS for sometimes less than 200 Rmb!

I stayed one night in the Holiday Inn!

C.

Cavir2008
02-28-06, 03:44
Hi,

Can somebody tell me if the Holiday Inn and the Radisson are girlfriendly?

And where to find girls or freebies in Hangzou?

Thanks,

C.You can find girls in taproom or KTV.

Cavir2008
02-28-06, 03:56
Went to a local sauna on Moganshan Rd near the Best Western Hotel. Name of the sauna is Huai Hai Ci. Never been so blatantly ripped off. Normal sauna routine, shower, sauna, rest area. Once the massage started the girl began talking prices. Opening bid was 1700 for CBJ, AR, NO FS. I laughed and eventually talked down to 450 which is still overpaying if you include sauna comes out to about 650. When I finished the routine, went out to pay and was given a 1500rmb bill. Breakdown went like this: 200 sauna fees doubled for additional "hour" of massage, 450 tip which was also doubled for the extra hour and 200 service charge. I asked for the manager and a big thug stood up and said that he wasn't available. Mouthed off to the guy for about 5 minutes. He picks up the phone, makes a call and all of a sudden two more guys come out the back door. That's my queue. One more insult, turned around and walked out the door.Don't arrive there,chinese all knows that was bad sauna.

Cavir2008
02-28-06, 04:06
Am out in Yiwu, Zhejiang for business in a few weeks. Anyone know where to stay and where to play? What are the good saunas and ktvs? What are the prices like? Any info would be helpful.In yiwu mostly hotel have saunas. The prices : under three star hotel is less than 400 RMB 4-5 star hotel about 600-800 RMB.

Didipod
03-29-06, 02:15
I was in Hangzhou last week. Stayed at the WTC Hotel, I was trying to visit their own sauna, but found out it was closed for remodeling. So I headed next door, HuangNong (Dragon) Hotel. Dragon Hotel just finished their remodeling a few months ago, so the facility is in much better shape, but it was still a smaller operation than WTC. I think they had about a half dozen girls most times. The service was okay, and the going rate was still around 600 yuan.

After finishing my deed, I started up a chat with the girls. Needless to say, most aren't doing this by choice, and they don't have fond words for their bosses. I learned that most hotel saunas are operated independently, which means they are sub-contracted out to some outside companies. I also learned that the biggest hotel sauna operations in Hangzhou are Shangri-la, WTC (World Trade Center), XinQiao and Wanghu. The larger operations simply means they have more girls to choose from. The going rate will be pretty much the same, which is around 600 yuan all inclusive for FS.

Needless to say the turnover is very high in this business. So I don't think it would be of much value to tell you the names or the numbers of the girls. I headed for XinQiao the next day. BTW, you can get to all these saunas by simply telling your taxi driver to take you to the respective hotels. Most lobbies would have directories telling you which floors they might be located, and no, you don't have to be a hotel guess to access the saunas.

I went to XinQiao around 7:00 PM and was given a dropdead gorgeous girl. She was about 5'7, 110 pounds, with perfect tits and ass. Not to mention the near waist length hair. She told me she used to be a model, but at 26, she was considered old. From the looks of her, I do believe her.

The only problem was, XinQiao, despite its huge and relative swanky operations (in Egyptian theme, if you can believe it) didn't offer FS. Everything else was fairgame. After the usual catbath and BBBJ, I told her I would service her with DATY. She didn't object and within a few minutes came. She wanted to do the full deed as well, but alas, there was no condom to be found. She told me she would be fined if caught with condom. Bareback was out of the question, so several layers of thin film wrapping will have to do. This didn't do it for me, although I appreciated the effort. After a few minutes intercourse, I gave up because there was simply no sensation.

So we were back to more of the BBBJ and I finished by fucking her beautiful and firm tits.

It wasn't the best experience, no doubt due to the lack of FS. The tab was a bit on the high side as well, which came to 775. But in this particular case, she was sincere and she was hot, so I guess it was worth it.

Da Hawayen
05-15-06, 19:01
Checked out WTC tonight, but, alas, just as Didipod mentioned, renovation of the basement sauna was still ongoing. Doorman said that it would be another month or two before we could avail. He suggested I walk over to the opposite street corner to the Dragon Hotel.

15 girls working that night according to the sauna attendant, who, surprisingly, spoke pretty good English. FS was 600 towards the house and a 400 tip to the lady (90 min session). Picked #3, prettier I think than the other 3 that were available - 20 year old (looked younger though) from Hunan. Her English was better than I had expected. This one kept giggling and cuddling and gave a pretty sensual full body massage with her breast. BBBJ, then on went the cover, and she road me CG. We flipped over, I pulled out and went down to DATY. Tried FIV, but she was slightly hesitant at first, but noticing how gentle I was, she let me at it. MISH then she turned around and I lost it doing her from behind. We lay there silently and cuddled for at least 10 minutes. She then busted out a pad and showed me all the english phrases she had "collected" and learned. I suggested a few more. She gave me another massage and then another happy ending with BBBJTC.

I'll definitely be back tomorrow to see her again.

Had a great time, but does 600 + the 400 tip sound right or is it typically around 600 inclusive of tips?

All this past week, during the taxi ride to and from work, I noticed a string of about 8 to 10 BBS places a block or so away from the office building. 3 to 4 girls per establishment all along one side of a narrow road cabbies uses as a shortcut between a couple of very busy streets. I'll check it out in the next few days and post a report.

Didipod
05-16-06, 01:26
Checked out WTC tonight, but, alas, just as Didipod mentioned, renovation of the basement sauna was still ongoing. Doorman said that it would be another month or two before we could avail. He suggested I walk over to the opposite street corner to the Dragon Hotel.

15 girls working that night according to the sauna attendant, who, surprisingly, spoke pretty good English. FS was 600 towards the house and a 400 tip to the lady (90 min session). Picked #3, prettier I think than the other 3 that were available - 20 year old (looked younger though) from Hunan. Her English was better than I had expected. This one kept giggling and cuddling and gave a pretty sensual full body massage with her breast. BBBJ, then on went the cover, and she road me CG. We flipped over, I pulled out and went down to DATY. Tried FIV, but she was slightly hesitant at first, but noticing how gentle I was, she let me at it. MISH then she turned around and I lost it doing her from behind. We lay there silently and cuddled for at least 10 minutes. She then busted out a pad and showed me all the english phrases she had "collected" and learned. I suggested a few more. She gave me another massage and then another happy ending with BBBJTC.

I'll definitely be back tomorrow to see her again.

Had a great time, but does 600 + the 400 tip sound right or is it typically around 600 inclusive of tips?

All this past week, during the taxi ride to and from work, I noticed a string of about 8 to 10 BBS places a block or so away from the office building. 3 to 4 girls per establishment all along one side of a narrow road cabbies uses as a shortcut between a couple of very busy streets. I'll check it out in the next few days and post a report.Unless you are talking about 600 all inclusive, of which 400 goes to the girl, then you got hosed. 600-700 is standard fare in Hangzhou for highend saunas.

Da Hawayen
05-16-06, 19:08
Didipod, yes, I figured I got hosed, but it was good fun nonetheless :-)

Tonight's plan was to try Dragon Hotel one more time and see if 600 to 700 inclusive of everything would work to my favor and then check out those BBS' I had referred to in my prior post.

Dragon Hotel:

Got there, stored my stuff in the locker, and hit the shower and sauna. Last night's attendant was not around, but a couple others guys recognized me. While in the sauna, one of them handed me his cellphone. On the phone was last night's attendant asking that if I wanted "make love" to any one of the girls, I'd had to fork over the 400 to the other attendant and he'd make sure mamasan go the cash. Knowing that this was what screwed me up last night, I told him no "make love" only regular massage tonight. I figure I'd let the lady do the quoting. Sure enough, I enjoyed every minute with #5 (huge natural breasts, porcelain skin, and pretty damn good massage skills) for 600 (200 to the house and 400 tip). I'm pretty sure not all 400 made it to her. On the way out, pesky attendant had now shown up for work and was still demanding that I had to fork over the 400. Didn't say a word to the dude and went back out to pay the house.

BBS:

Told the Dragon Hotel doorman that I needed a cab to the Huaxing Road (Huaxing Lu) area. Had cabby drop me off a block away from Huaxing Road and I walked the half block back the opposite way to a smaller side street that had about 10 or so BBS places along one side of the road. Across the road from these places is a pretty high cement wall the runs the entire stretch of that side road. All the joints had about 4 to 5 girls working (it was a little past midnight by this time), except for one, which had a young and pretty looking girl and a not-much-older mamasan. I couldn't resist this pretty girl's smile and so I stepped in. Mamasan said 200RMB for FS and I went for it. This pretty young thing took me to the back, up a flight of stairs, and into what looked like a maze of really small apartments/rooms. No doubt all 10 or BBS's fronted this maze of rooms. Room had two beds, one stacked with some clothes and another one had sheets that looked pretty clean. I sat down on the bed and this young thing sat on my lap put her head on my shoulder and we cuddled for the longest time. She finally undressed me and off went her clothes as well. I swear to god I almost lost it there :-). Man, what a sight! I started the deed and it took no more than 15 minutes. She could tell that I was pretty tired and needed to hit the sack soon. In broken English, she asked me to lay down and spend the night. Likewise, I really contemplated taking her back to the hotel to spend the night. Knowing that not much would happen anyway until I got some shut eye tonight, I told her I'd be back the next evening. I asked if she'd spend the night then at my hotel. She indicated that I needed to ask mamasan. Mamasan said 800RMB for the night and I told her I'd be back the next evening. I left the joint and walked past the other 8 places. At this point, I didn't even bother to look to see what these other joints had to offer. I just kept thinking about how somebody with her looks and her ability to speak pretty darn good English could end up making 200RMB a pop at these joints. She did say that she was from the area (grew up in Hangzhou) so maybe, just maybe, I've found my Hangzhou ATF.

More to come tomorrow ... 3 more nights of mongering ...


Unless you are talking about 600 all inclusive, of which 400 goes to the girl, then you got hosed. 600-700 is standard fare in Hangzhou for highend saunas.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

WooVictor
05-19-06, 06:01
I was in Hangzhou a few weeks ago, spending one night at the Shangri-La there. As I was traveling with a female colleague and suffering from a flu, I didnt venture outside to hunt. Unfortunately, the Hangzhou Shangri-La was a major disappointment. There was no nightclub or karaoke, and the only bar there was very quiet at night except for a few tourist-type customers with no local girls to be seen.

The health centre was even worse. It did have several massage rooms and there were masseuses and masseurs who could provide room service, but only to customers of the same sex. For massage by an opposite sex, you have to go to the health centre, and I suspect no funny business is available.

This is a rather strange arrangement for a Shangri-La in a second-tier city. Ive been to the Shangri-La in Qingdao and Xian in recent years, and their masseuses offered full service in your room. As far as I understand, its only in Shanghai and Beijing that the Shangri-La is so straight. Does anyone know of any other straight Shangri-Las in China?

Mrejack
05-30-06, 10:20
HZ,

WARNING! I confess....I've RTFF, over and over again. Seniors say: "Don't go with touts!" I did. I regret it. Here goes: I sat in the square of City Center and got approached my a "nice guy", handing me his card. Later that night, I called him. He told the taxi driver where to go, and there I was. KTV-scam as seen so many times on this board! All "Hello, welcome, nice girl 4 u" Showed me a KTV room, nice girl comes in. She smiles, we talk, and then in comes trays with snacks and fruit. Beginning to come to my senses, I refuse, and have them take it away. Agreed to have two coffees. I started demanding a price list of some sort. They say 50 RMB for the room and 400 for the girl, and 56 RMB for each coffee!! When I argue, the girl gets nasty, screams and I call for the Lao-Pan, boss. Just wanting to get the hell outta there, can't imagine to fuck a screamy ***** that want to rip me off over two cups of lousy coffee, I offer 50 for the room and 15 for the two coffees. Now they want 300 RMB, I never got the hang of the math, so I used every phrase Mandarin I knew, smiling and telling them to calm down. Never showing any weakness, put 100 RMB on the table and smiled my way out of the place. Damage not too heavy, but please, follow the following advise:

Never go with touts!

Cebu Local
06-05-06, 00:42
HZ,

WARNING! I confess....I've RTFF, over and over again. Seniors say: "Don't go with touts!" I did. I regret it. Here goes: I sat in the square of City Center and got approached my a "nice guy", handing me his card. Later that night, I called him. He told the taxi driver where to go, and there I was. KTV-scam as seen so many times on this board! All "Hello, welcome, nice girl 4 u" Showed me a KTV room, nice girl comes in. She smiles, we talk, and then in comes trays with snacks and fruit. Beginning to come to my senses, I refuse, and have them take it away. Agreed to have two coffees. I started demanding a price list of some sort. They say 50 RMB for the room and 400 for the girl, and 56 RMB for each coffee!! When I argue, the girl gets nasty, screams and I call for the Lao-Pan, boss. Just wanting to get the hell outta there, can't imagine to fuck a screamy ***** that want to rip me off over two cups of lousy coffee, I offer 50 for the room and 15 for the two coffees. Now they want 300 RMB, I never got the hang of the math, so I used every phrase Mandarin I knew, smiling and telling them to calm down. Never showing any weakness, put 100 RMB on the table and smiled my way out of the place. Damage not too heavy, but please, follow the following advise:

Never go with touts!I believe that in your case,It is better off you hire the services of Dragon D,You are lucky you got off lightly,Some Mongers have literally had to run for their lives or lost thousands of RMB

Farmboy5
06-05-06, 05:57
HZ,

WARNING! I confess....I've RTFF, over and over again. Seniors say: "Don't go with touts!" I did. I regret it. Here goes: I sat in the square of City Center and got approached my a "nice guy", handing me his card. Later that night, I called him. He told the taxi driver where to go, and there I was. KTV-scam as seen so many times on this board! All "Hello, welcome, nice girl 4 u" Showed me a KTV room, nice girl comes in. She smiles, we talk, and then in comes trays with snacks and fruit. Beginning to come to my senses, I refuse, and have them take it away. Agreed to have two coffees. I started demanding a price list of some sort. They say 50 RMB for the room and 400 for the girl, and 56 RMB for each coffee!! When I argue, the girl gets nasty, screams and I call for the Lao-Pan, boss. Just wanting to get the hell outta there, can't imagine to fuck a screamy ***** that want to rip me off over two cups of lousy coffee, I offer 50 for the room and 15 for the two coffees. Now they want 300 RMB, I never got the hang of the math, so I used every phrase Mandarin I knew, smiling and telling them to calm down. Never showing any weakness, put 100 RMB on the table and smiled my way out of the place. Damage not too heavy, but please, follow the following advise:

Never go with touts!

You just need to learn to read and understand what has been written hundreds of times in the China forums. DON'T GO WITH TOUTS!!!

It takes minimal effort to monger anywhere in China, even for foreigners without language skills. I know because I am one.

If you read these forums, you don't need to pay a guide, just go get it.

Member #2634
06-06-06, 16:23
Hi All,

COming in to Hangzhou from Mumbai, India for 1 night on 19th June. Staying at the Hyatt. ANy tips on mongering will be most appreciated.

Ace Gallant
06-06-06, 16:46
Member #2634
Senior Member
Reports: 45




Hi All,
Shanghai Thread

COming in to shanghai on 17th & 18th more specifically to Pu Dong. Staying at St.Regis hotel. Any tips on mongering there would be most appreciated.




Guangzhou Thread
Hi All,

Coming in to china hotel for 2 nights 20th & 21st June from mumbai,india. Last october during canton fair the basement disco was alive with women, however in Jan when I was there the disco was shut down but I got a walker from outside the hotel(near starbucks) to come in at RMB500.
Any tips on mongering this time will be most appreciated.



Hi All,
Hangzhou Thread

COming in to Hangzhou from Mumbai, India for 1 night on 19th June. Staying at the Hyatt. ANy tips on mongering will be most appreciated.


Ok Ok Ok..... Mr. VIP: Member #2634 we got your message.

So what you want us to do?? Send someone to the Airport, roll out the red carpet in every city that you are landing in bring you round to monger?

As a senior member we would expect you to RTFF.

AG

Mrejack
06-11-06, 23:01
You just need to learn to read and understand what has been written hundreds of times in the China forums. DON'T GO WITH TOUTS!!!

It takes minimal effort to monger anywhere in China, even for foreigners without language skills. I know because I am one.

If you read these forums, you don't need to pay a guide, just go get it.Duh, just said the same thing. Don't go with touts.

Diamond Head
07-19-06, 16:57
Overseas Chinese Hotel, Hangzhou. Right across from Xi Hu on Hubin Lu. Three stars, about 60USD. Full service available in sauna, 400 for one girl, 600 for two. The girl I had was very willing to please and reasonably attractive. Also, can be had in your room according to her. She gave me her cell number and said to call anytime for room service. Frequent calls to the room offering "anmo" by some anonymous sweet voice, never pursued that line though. Suspect the calls came from the so called beauty shop.

Lukaa
07-26-06, 04:22
After a not so enthusiastic experience in Shanghai Hotel sauna last week, I gave a try to the Golden Horse (Jin Ma fan dian) sauna in Xiaoshan, as I was staying nearby for a business trip.

Good reception, a flood of male staff taking care of you in the lockers room and the sauna. Friendly but a bit invasive though.

Then on to the lounge area for a short wait. There were already about 10 men waiting there. You've got your private TV, and they serve you drinks, that I think you need to pay for.

Then the manager came to me and asked what can of service I wanted. Clearly enough, I mentioned I was looking for an experienced girl, with good skills.
A few minutes later, she escorts me downstairs and into a small room with a bed... and a girl waiting there. Very pretty, beautiful face and nice body. Figured out later she's from Dongbei and only 19...! (there you go for the experience!)

She started with a little massage. There's nothing like all the red ropes and AR that you get in Shanghai... She was friendly though and immediately checked my stuff and showed interest in making love with a foreigner. Also mentioned that we had plenty of time so no need to rush!

Then it got weird.

She didn't want to get undressed, and left the room for a while. Then coming back, she mentioned some people will come to check (what the hell?) and we had to be fast! She started to work right away on my XDD, then put a condom on it, took off her panties and asked me to take her in mish.

"Quick, babe, quick". I hate it when they call you "baobei"!

Then we had to stop again. She figured I would appreciate some extra help, as I obviously wasn't enjoying myself. So in comes another girl, seemingly older, with a nice attitude, but not as pretty, and especially hairy under the armpits.

She starts BBBJ me right away, which is a good change, while the other's stroking me and moaning. A lot of moaning and screaming from both of them, oh so fake! whatever!

Then Dongbei girl gets on top and starts riding. After 14 seconds, she's too tired and wants back to mish. Hell! I give in, but at that point, I just want to finish. It'll prove impossible. It's getting hot in that small room and I'm not getting the service I'd have liked to.

After a while, I had enough of their stupid questions and non-action and I left.
Damage: 900RMB for 2 girls.

Close to a rip-off, but I deserve it. I'm too nice for that kind of universe. :) And what attitude can you expect anyway from these girls?

Guys, my advice after an almost similarly lame experience at a Shanghai sauna: go for freebies, as they call them on the (great) Shanghai forum!

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Kj277
07-31-06, 03:39
Hangzhou is for me, the mst beautiful city in china - at least amongst the cities that I have visited. However, as stated in this forum, it has been a pretty stale place for the typical sauna and KTV girl action that I am accustomed to.

Two weeks ago, on my 4th visist to Hangzhou, I stayed at the Hyatt Regency right on the shores of the West Lake. During the day and night, thousands of people are milling around in front of the lake and one evening I ended up taking a walk to enjoy the scenery. It was about 8 pm went I started to get approached by various mamasans. I didn't partake in the action but the going rate seemed to be 500 rmb, negotiable.

My vendor took me to various bars later that evening on Nanjing Lu - the night life is pretty active in Hangzhou it seems. After having a few drinks while bar hopping, we ended up at a bar caleed Night and Day. The place was happening with a small dance floor playing salsa music! The girls were plentiful with quite a number of 7's and 8's. I ended up grinding it out on the dance floor with a local beauty attending HZ University. She was real friendly and after a few more drinks and a lot more dancing, she made her way with me to my hotel for a very nice night. Guys, check the bars out. There were many guys, Western and Asian, out in full force and most seemed to be getting lucky, with semi pros or freebies or whatever the girl deceided she was that particular evening.

Huluwawa
08-24-06, 08:08
I was in Hangzhou a few weeks ago, spending one night at the Shangri-La there. As I was traveling with a female colleague and suffering from a flu, I didnt venture outside to hunt. Unfortunately, the Hangzhou Shangri-La was a major disappointment. There was no nightclub or karaoke, and the only bar there was very quiet at night except for a few tourist-type customers with no local girls to be seen.

The health centre was even worse. It did have several massage rooms and there were masseuses and masseurs who could provide room service, but only to customers of the same sex. For massage by an opposite sex, you have to go to the health centre, and I suspect no funny business is available.

This is a rather strange arrangement for a Shangri-La in a second-tier city. Ive been to the Shangri-La in Qingdao and Xian in recent years, and their masseuses offered full service in your room. As far as I understand, its only in Shanghai and Beijing that the Shangri-La is so straight. Does anyone know of any other straight Shangri-Las in China?You missed the Xiangxun Health Club, the best sauna in Hangzhou with full service. What a pity!

OzzieSuds
08-24-06, 22:04
You missed the Xiangxun Health Club, the best sauna in Hangzhou with full service. What a pity!

I WooVictor went to the HC in the Shangri La and it was no value then where is this Xiangxun HC? Is it in the Shangri La, adjacent or what? How about some more details of the deal there?

Mock A Bee
09-16-06, 07:26
You missed the Xiangxun Health Club, the best sauna in Hangzhou with full service. What a pity!

Huluwawa,

It looks like this is your first post. Congratulations.

Where is the Xiangxun Health Club?
Any details or are you just making this up?

Please add details.

MAB

Mock A Bee
09-16-06, 07:32
About the HZ Shanghri-la, I would have to concure that this place is strictly legit.

The health center has pretty much everything you would expect. I tried the sauna and pool. Clean, well working, aged but decent.

A one hour massage is 250rmb, but no extras available. You wear the pajamas, and you can get a male or female masseuse, but that is about it.

The massage was ok, but nothing close to blow your mind.

Great location close to the lake if you want scenery. It is a very short, easy walk to the lake, away from the hustle and bustle of the Hyatt Regency. Very good legit hotel services.

Don't know if it is girl-friendly or not. Didn't attempt to bring anyone in.

MAB

Didipod
11-01-06, 11:34
I was in Hangzhou last week, stayed at the WTC (World Trade Center) Hotel. The last time I was there several months ago, the basement sauna was being remodeled, so I was anxious to try the new operation. The facilities is much better but one major attraction is now gone. The place no longer offer FS, only BBBJ/CBJ depending on the girl and the usual message. The fee stayed the same, which was around 700 RMB for the 90 minute session. This is a major disappointment for me so I went for the next door.

The Dragon Hotel sauna still offers FS for around 600 RMB. It is a smaller operation with far fewer girls to choose from, but for a safe and dependable release, tough to argue.

Bill Lee
12-09-06, 01:06
Totally off the sex subject. Anyone near this location and tell me if this address is fake or not. Trying to do business with person here and she won't budge on her conditions. Still want to make the deal but want to verify if address is real?

Luncheng West Bin Rd 8th division
Wenzhou China

Percent99
01-04-07, 07:00
The Dragon Hotel sauna still offers FS for around 600 RMB. It is a smaller operation with far fewer girls to choose from, but for a safe and dependable release, tough to argue.

I dont think it is posible to have fs for 650 I said going in 650 for all they said ok but the girl that i had said that she does not do f##k she wanted hj .
so i had to had to convince her for 20 min not to mention pay 500 more for foul servise.

Didipod
01-05-07, 04:57
I dont think it is posible to have fs for 650 I said going in 650 for all they said ok but the girl that i had said that she does not do f##k she wanted hj .
so i had to had to convince her for 20 min not to mention pay 500 more for foul servise.It is not uncommon for Chinese providers to quote a different price or service if you are caucasian. I am ethnic Chinese from the States, and I speak fluent Chinese, so it was no problem for me, at least the last time I visited back in November. And that is the usual price for all major saunas in Hangzhou for FS.

Bonbon John
01-05-07, 12:53
I was visiting basement Sauna of WTC Hotel in end of October and at least that time everything was available, but it was guite late night, around 1am.
I had a tallish girl from Harbin (or dalian, can not remember so well), number was 66. Nice rack with big tits, face was just average... but whos looking.
She had exellent skills and the "vacuum mouth" massage was so f...ing great. FS, BBBJ and massage for this 700RMB.
But it seems that it's really up to girl. There was 3 of us and one got BBBJ and other HJ when I got the whole deal. I first thought that this will be a scam but I just started fingering my girl, showing why I'm there and also said that in Chinese. The friends did not speak any Chinese and were doing it first time in China so did not know what should be included, I guess that was the reason for different service.
But the BBBJ girl asked my friends room number and promised to come after the work (3AM), she actually did come and my friend did not sleep that night :o)...
So about 2 months ago everything was available and I can warmly recommend girl 66.

John





I was in Hangzhou last week, stayed at the WTC (World Trade Center) Hotel. The last time I was there several months ago, the basement sauna was being remodeled, so I was anxious to try the new operation. The facilities is much better but one major attraction is now gone. The place no longer offer FS, only BBBJ/CBJ depending on the girl and the usual message. The fee stayed the same, which was around 700 RMB for the 90 minute session. This is a major disappointment for me so I went for the next door.

The Dragon Hotel sauna still offers FS for around 600 RMB. It is a smaller operation with far fewer girls to choose from, but for a safe and dependable release, tough to argue.

Percent99
01-05-07, 14:42
But the BBBJ girl asked my friends room number and promised to come after the work (3AM), she actually did come and my friend did not sleep that night :o)...


John

Did your freind pay extra ? and how much?

I guess that its a matter of being a westerner or not, speaking chineesse or not, and thats why difrent prices and service . because i specificaly asked for everything included agreed on 650 but after how can i argue and with who since they all dont speak English (i am talking about me Dragon hotel experience) so i payed the 500 more.
So taking advantage of this situation here is the rest of my story:

after we had sex (she claimed I was too big and she couldnt but had to convince her...I ll be gentile ... bla bla..bla bla.)
So I mention i am going to my hotel and she says ok i will come at 03.00.
I say ok she wants more .

Long story short she spend the night (1 time more sex in my hotel) and in the Morning she says : 1500 rmb please . oh I get it .
Sorry chick but you have to negotiate that before hand .
So I shouldnt have given her anything but ok I gave her 400 rmb and out she goes .
She called me all the other days also , and I had her once more for 1000 overnight but since Hangzhou has limited options and not for any other reason.
Dragon hotel name - hong lee??

Fact is it is an open market so open there are no real boundries to how much where and what.

Batman
02-14-07, 08:17
I am in Hangzhou for 10 days if anyone wants to hangout and have some beers. PM me

Bonbon John
02-19-07, 14:32
Yep, he gave girl 600RMB after 3 rounds and few hours. But he knew that already beforehand since I "warned" him about it. But that's what we all shoud do after good sex, the girls are anyway working there.
And this girl was happy about that 600, did not ask more.

[QUOTE=Percent99]Did your freind pay extra ? and how much?

I guess that its a matter of being a westerner or not, speaking chineesse or not, and thats why difrent prices and service . because i specificaly asked for everything included agreed on 650 but after how can i argue and with who since they all dont speak English (i am talking about me Dragon hotel experience) so i payed the 500 more.

Laogua
02-21-07, 08:26
I tried recently renovated WTC sauna yesterday. The sauna facility is good and looks quite clean. The full service is also available but on a different floor. They will lead you go to 4th floor through a designated elevator.

The total damage was a bit over RMB800, of which 500 is for the full service and the rest is for sauna and about 30 min regular massage.

Oljoe
03-11-07, 06:35
650 RMB for FS = AUD 106! In their dreams. When I can get it better in the Philippines for AUD 25. Preposterous. What does a 'real' job pay, such as standing all day in a store or making stuff in a factory? Not RMB 650 that's sure.

Member #1344
03-14-07, 16:11
First, thanks for all of the advice on this thread. I was in Hangzhou for only two days but managed to squeeze in a visit to Dragon Hotel's Sauna. The sauna is located on the left hand side of the ground floor when you come in. Just walk by reception and keep on following the signs.

It was a typical sauna procedure. Change clothes, soak in the hot tubs or shower, and then be led into your room. Unlike in some other places where you can choose from a selection of girls, one just came to my room. She was cute enough so I didn't try sending her away to get another one. She said that there were only 6 other girls working at the time (4 pm), so this isn't as large as some of the other places I've been to. As other posters have said, there is no red rope treatment, but her other services were pretty good.

Although the two bath attendants kept trying to ask me for a 100 rmb tip each (rather funny that someone would actually give them that much money for doing so little), I was only charged 550 RMB when I left. Note: For those that I'm sure are wondering how I got such a good rate, I'm not sure. I look Chinese but as soon as I open my mouth to say something, people can tell I'm not from China.

If I'm ever back in Hangzhou, I'd consider going back again at such a cheap price. But I'd also want to check out the other sauna's as well.

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Niteluvr
03-16-07, 02:09
I met this girl on AFF named Suni Chen. Her AFF ID is chicprintemps. She contacted me first and I was wary, but what the hell, had nothing to lose. Never got to meet her as our chat relationship went sour after 3 weeks, and I'll never get a chance to fuck her, but hopefully one of you will and can post a report. She has about the nicest ass I've ever seen on a 22 y.o Asian woman. It's a damn shame I never got to fuck her. She loves older guys and all you'd have to do is take it slowly with her for a couple of weeks and I bet you could easily nail her. I'm hoping one of you will fuck the shit out of her, and on your way out the door tell her she was highly recommended by "Jim," snap of pic of her expression and post it here. Basically I had high hopes for her and she cheated my heart, so this would be my only way of exacting a little revenge on her. You get a nice tight fuck and I get a nice smile on my face. Any takers? I tried to attach some pics but the file sizes are too large. Anyone know how to reduce them? If anyone wants her phone number and email, PM me.

Niteluvr

Sbwonder 2006
03-16-07, 07:20
LOL Nitelover, cannot stop laughing. Why upset because failed once? You should make a new ID and contact her again.


I met this girl on AFF named Suni Chen. Her AFF ID is chicprintemps. She contacted me first and I was wary, but what the hell, had nothing to lose. Never got to meet her as our chat relationship went sour after 3 weeks, and I'll never get a chance to fuck her, but hopefully one of you will and can post a report. She has about the nicest ass I've ever seen on a 22 y.o Asian woman. It's a damn shame I never got to fuck her. She loves older guys and all you'd have to do is take it slowly with her for a couple of weeks and I bet you could easily nail her. I'm hoping one of you will fuck the shit out of her, and on your way out the door tell her she was highly recommended by "Jim," snap of pic of her expression and post it here. Basically I had high hopes for her and she cheated my heart, so this would be my only way of exacting a little revenge on her. You get a nice tight fuck and I get a nice smile on my face. Any takers? I tried to attach some pics but the file sizes are too large. Anyone know how to reduce them? If anyone wants her phone number and email, PM me.

Niteluvr

Didipod
03-21-07, 14:43
I was back in Hangzhou for business this past week. Stayed at the Sunny Hotel on JieFangDaDao. I got in late at night and found next to no service at this rundown 4 star hotel. The staff was rude and the premise was filled with Chinese kitchen smell, but it was too late and I was too tired to change.

I chose this hotel because some guy on this thread mentioned their sauna services from perhaps a couple of years back. Anyhow, after dropping off the bags I headed for the 5th floor sauna. The place looked old and again the staff behaved as if they couldn't care less. I did the usual shower locker routine and was lead to a room. A girl from Sichuan with some of the biggest tits I have encountered showed up. She must have been a 36DDD. I was taken aback a bit at the sight. She looked innocent enough, that is until she opened her mouth. I speak fluent Mandarin so it was no problem for me to converse with her. She was obviously quite comfortable at her job and proceeded to undress me and start with her routine, whilst shooting her mouth off with wise cracks one after another. Frankly, I was too thrill with a potty mouthed hooker. Trust me, it wasn't the talk dirty variety. So when she tried to up sell me with the 2 fer deal for the price of 1000 yuan (600 for one), I jumped at the chance.

In came another chick, except she looked more like a 5, the only saving grace was her tight body with 34C tits. After an hour worth of taking turns of blow jobs and missionary positions, I finished the deed.

If you are looking for a sure thing (meaning getting laid), go for a 3 to 4 star hotel such as this. The price is reasonable and within the norm. But I cannot vouch for the premise. It was run down and felt more like a 2-3 star. The service was terrible and unprofessional. While I had one of the less memorable experiences, your mileage may vary. I checked out the place first thing in the morning and got into another hotel near by. Of course, I do have another report from this other hotel next.

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Didipod
03-21-07, 14:53
After my not so great experience with Sunny Hotel, I checked into Grand Metro Park Hotel near West Lake. This is suppose to be a 5 star hotel, so things did get better. You won't find any locals being able to give you directions with the name Grand Metro Park. It is commonly know as WeiJin Hotel or even by its former name Wuzhou Hotel. The place is clean and the staff was professional.

The sauna on the basement level was recently renovated and it looked the part. I was perhaps the cleanest and most stylized sauna I have been to in China in a while. The locker room attendants didn't pester me for tips like the ones at Sunny Hotel sauna. After the normal routine, I was lead to a private room. The room wasn't big, but it was clean and the window on the door wasn't pointing at the bed, like plenty of other saunas.

The girl that showed up was pretty and slender with pea pod tits, not really my type. But she was pleasant and eager, so I didn't turn her away. As it turned out, she was a master with her tongue. I finished the deed an hour later and the bill came to 770 yuan, slightly higher than some of the other places. Again, this was a sure thing, meaning you are guaranteed to get full service, which is important to me. After getting burned at World Trade Center Hotel with just HJ and BJ for the same price, I didn't mind.

This is perhaps the cleanest 5 star hotel near West Lake without paying the price of Grand Hyatt. It is a couple of blocks away from the lake. I would recommend this place to stay and for our hobby.

Didipod
03-23-07, 23:09
I had one more day at Hangzhou before heading home. Since the hotel (Grand Metro Park Hotel, the former Continental Hotel) is only a few blocks away from the lake, I went for a walk around 7:00 PM to see if there was any action. This area is next to the Hyatt and full of high-end stores. As it turned out, there were a few touts outside of Hyatt, but I have read enough about touts not to bother. It is early spring still, with the way the girls dressed around Hangzhou, it was hard to tell from the hot from the nots, so I decided to go back to hotel and try one more round.

This time, I told the manager to fetch me one with big tits (in Mandarin it is called Da Bo) and a pretty face. After a few minutes, one did show up with huge tits. She must have been 38 or 40DDD, but she was relatively chubby as well. We are not talking about the American chubby of 300 pounds, this was more like 150 or so. I turned her away and asked for a different one. After another 10-15 minutes, a 19 year old from you guessed it, Sichuan showed up. She was cute with 110-120 pound frame, I would say 5'5 or so in height, her tits were in my mind, nearly perfect.

She told me she wears 36-37D bras, and they felt great, firm and bouncy, but definitely real. You can Google Keeley Hazell for images and you will know what I mean. She did the routine BBBJ and tits rub all over, and she didn't mind DATY at all. The best part, even one of finger barely fit in her. When I noticed she barely had any pubic hair and asked if she shaved, she giggle and said no. So she was bare and smooth!

Needless to say, I had a great time with her. We went at it until the time was nearly up. She isn't the prettiest girls I have ran into, but the overall experience certainly ranked as one of the best. Total damage was 760 for everything.

If you need to find the hotel, it is at No.2 PinHai Road, the sauna is at the B level. You do not have to be a guest at the hotel to use it. Just walk in and go for the elevator and hit B level.

Here is the link to their website: http://www.metroparkhotels.com/meetings.php?hoteltype=6

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Long Stay
04-26-07, 17:14
I've been living in HZ for a year now. I mostly visit BBS and the odd hotel every so often. I know the city pretty well now especially the West.

If anyone needs advice on getting around I'd be glad to offer my help.

HZ is not as active as Shanghai but there are some places to go that will suit most budgets. What I haven't found yet is a good place to get a quality massage with a HJ. The Radisson does it, but its 700 a pop! I was offered it in the Holiday Inn but walked out when she wouldn't go lower than 550.

Also heard about the soap places from the Shanghai thread. Anyone know if there is one in HZ?

LT

Long Stay
05-03-07, 16:15
I just got back from the Dragon Hotel Sauna. I decided to check it out after reading a few of the favorable reviews on this thread.

The Dragon Hotel is located on Shuguang Road opposite the Shark restaurant, (the Shark restaurant has a huge fish tank outside that is illuminated at night) through the main doors head left towards the No.2 set of elevators. You'll see the foot massage place, the sauna is to the left.

The girl at the door lead me to the counter and just asked "massage, sauna?" Showed me 550rmb on the calculator, to which I agreed. Inside was the usual bunch of attendants all eager to help me get undressed. They seem genuinely friendly and one of the older guys new a little English. Anyway I got undressed, showered then toweled off, changed into the shorts and top then lead to the room.

Sitting on the bed I was greeted by a thin-ish busty girl around 25 to 28 with curly hair, not really my type so I asked for a smaller girl. In came Fan Mei (No.75) thinner, younger and a bit prettier than the 1st one, for me she looked about a 7 but her personality and attitude made her an 8.

She started with a towel massage, I'm not really keen on that but it was okay. After around 30 mins she turned me over and started rubbing my chest, again using the towel. She asked me if I wanted a body massage? (I thought I was having one already) but said yes, she left the room and returned after 5 mins with some oil. She hung my top over the window in the door and got me to turn over again.

Off came the shorts and she rubbed oil all over me. This is what I'd come for! she started rubbing her hands over my ass, into my crack then down to my balls. After a few mins of this she started rubbing her small tits over my back which felt very good. 10 mins of this and she turned me over, her dress was pulled up and down so I could see her tits but she still had her pants on. She poured oil directly onto my cock and started to give me a very good oily HJ. As she increased the pace I knew I wouldn't last long so I took the initiative and started rubbing her pussy, I got her to straddle me in a 69 position, then pulled her pants to one side and started to eat her pussy. She was doing the moaning thing but it wasn't over fake. I tried to slip a finger in but she pulled away, so I continued to lick. I soon shot my load and she was in no hurry to jump off so I continued to play with her nipples.

After she cleaned up she left the room again, on her return she started to speak to me (the other girl must have told her I speak a little Chinese) we spent 15 mins or so chatting and wanted a hug before I left to have another shower.

The attendants gave me a stand up shoulder rub thing and there must have been 5 of them helping me get dressed! As I was leaving one of them asked for a tip but not in a pushy way, I gave him 20rmb and went out to pay. Total damage 550rmb as stated and 20rmb tip.

I'm not sure if FS was available as I didn't really want that and didn't push the question. But for a no hassle, (I hate bargaining the price) safe enjoyable release the Dragon Hotel is okay.

Attendants 7
Facilities 6-7
Massage 5
Girl 8
Overall Experience 7

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Dragon419
05-05-07, 10:56
Since I stayed at the Ramada Plaza on Qingchun road, I walked 1 block down to the Overseas Chinese Hotel. Right across from Xi Hu on Hubin Lu, close to West Lake. Look for the sauna level in the elevator towards the back of the lobby. Entered and was quoted 600 for one and 400 more for a second one. Chose one and a short very shapely, young cutie came in. She immediately took a liking to me, almost to the point I thought it may have been mistaken identity. I'm asian but speak very little to no chinese. She started to deep kiss me and undress me. Proceeded to run her tongue up and down the back of my legs, back, neck and balls. Flipped me over and covered my dick with plastic wrap and sucked long and hard. Turned me over and sprinkled me with drops of oil and rubbed her body all over me. Did DATY on her and she went wild, broking out in a cold sweat. Screwed for what seem like eternity in a few positions and finally came. The next night she encouraged me to try two girls. What an awesome experience with two tongues running up and down your body, two pairs of tits sliding over your dick and screwing both of them! But somehow the intimacy and GFE was not there (call me crazy). After a couple days I returned and just saw my original friend, which resulted in an even wilder experience and longer session. I told her I was leaving that evening and told her to come over after she finished work. To my surprise around 3 am, there she was knocking on my hotel room door. Long story short, ended up almost missing my plane.

Long Stay
05-05-07, 11:38
Dragon419 "short very shapely, young cutie came in"

Did you catch her name or number?

Thanks,

LS

Long Stay
05-10-07, 10:48
It was my birthday recently so I decided to splash out a little. I normally do my business in the local BBS but this time I wanted a little are&are as well. I decided to try the Sunny Hotel (No. 108 Jiefang Road, Hangzhou. Tel: 86-571-87218899).

Sorry, I forget the floor number but the Sauna is clearly marked in the elevator. Approached the reception desk and the girl asked "sexy girl massage? " The usual shower routine with the pesky attendants asking for a tip, then taken to the room.

In walks a rather busty girl, a little bit large for my liking but it was early in the day, around 3pm, and I thought what the hell. She immediately gets out the note pad and starts the negotiation. She started at 1500RMB for everything, I laughed and said "too expensive" after more haggling she pulls out her ace card 1000RMB for her and her friend! Well it was my birthday, how could I refuse?

A quick call and in walks her friend, my god she was perfect for me, slim, long straight dark hair and little pea pod tits. They both stood over me and dropped their robes together. My eyes where working overtime! Both got on there knees and pulled open my robe and whipped off my shorts. The sexy one started running her finger nails all over my body while the busty one started HJ. My hands started to explore too, this was great, I was soon up and ready to go, so on came the little hat. I took the sexy one in mis and watched as the busty one started to do herself. The only let down was there was a bit too much fake moaning. The busty one wanted in on the action. She replaced the condom and I started to do her mis as well but she closed her legs while I was inside and started milking my cock with her vagina muscles and thighs. I've never experienced that before and it was awesome, problem was I blew straight away. It was great but 1000RMB for 10mins was not my idea of money well spent.

Fortunately the busty one had a solution, 300RMB more and I could go again! Well it was my birthday. The second time around was again, amazing. I had the sexy one sat on my face while the other was giving a great HJ. After I was ready to go again I just wanted the sexy one, I did her in all kinds of positions while the other played with my ass and balls. I did the deed again after what seemed like hours. I was really tired, they finished by giving my a massage, not very good but I just needed to lay there and get my strength back for a while. I was in the room for well over an hour and a half.

Showered off again then paid 1600RMB Total (1300 for the two girls and 300 for massage and sauna). Not a bad way to spend your birthday.

Attendants 5 (too pushy) Facilities 7 (clean, safe, nothing fancy) Massage 3 (poking and rubbing) Busty Girl 6 (the great sex and cleanly shaven saved her from a 4) Sexy Girl 9 (good sex, perfect (for me) body) Overall Experience 8 (two girls, two releases)

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Tim Bone
05-10-07, 20:07
Its a nice place. Very scenic around the lake, but highly overrated. Did a bicycle trip around it, but really crowded some places since it was a weekend.

Stayed at Hua Chen Hotel in Pinghai Lu. A 4-star with excellent service. Paid 59 USD for a single booked on Internet. The bed was about 140 cm wide and there were condoms available in the bathroom. I presume its GF then.

A lot of offers for Karaoke and lady massage at the lakeside in the evening. I was also approached by a mama who had two girls on show. But I just left without asking price and conditions. What is wrong with me? I still havent had Chinese pussy. I guess its Im not used to go through a mediator. Prefer to buy directly from the supplier. I support Fair-trade mongering.

Off to Shanghai, see next post.

Jarod Taz
05-12-07, 06:32
Hi LongStay/Brothers!

I tried to PM Longstay but was not able to so I am posting here instead. So sorry if I am offending anyone.

Thanks for the helpful review about Hangzhou action. It seems that you are very knowlegable Gent and very approachable with this hobby of ours.
I have some questions that I hope you may be able to help me.

I am going to HZ at the end of May and spending one night before taking off to Shanghai as part of a tour. I will be travelling with some relatives and stuck in the same room. I am not even sure what hotel we are staying. I am looking for a hotel that offers Sunas with sure things "FS". I will be in the company of family so I don't want much hassle and won't be able to partake in the hunt of SW and to take out but have to visit their place and with a limited time.

My questions are:

1) Which hotels do you think offer for sure good FS in their saunas? (Hangzhou Sunny Hotel, Overseas Chinese Hotel, Dragon Hotel and The Grand Metro park Hotel do) Any other? or even better a Sauna only w/o hotel?-like the soapies in Bangkok?

Alternatively,

2) What about BBS? I understand their set uo is very shabby small and not very private rooms? may you suggest a few?

3)What area are these BBS/Saunas?

Sorry if I owerwellmed you with questions but feel free to answer as much or as little as your time allows you.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers!

Long Stay
05-12-07, 12:15
Hi Jarod,

I guess it all depends on where you are staying and how well you can get about in Taxi's etc. As I live in HZ the hotels are a bit beyond my budget.

Hotels:

The Hotels I have experienced are, Radisson (Great massage/service, but only HJ = 750RMB). Dragon (Average massage, I only experienced HJ, but very safe = 550RMB). Sunny (FS, chance of 2 girls, great experience, price depends on girl and your bargaining skills, I paid 1600!). Holiday Inn (was offered HJ for 550RMB I wanted FS and it wasn't available so I left).

BBS:

HZ is full of BBS my experiences are mainly in the West area. I can give you street names later if interested. BBS are usually grouped together and will have 5 or 6 on one street, as many as 10 - 15 can be found within a very short walk of each other. BBS offer very basic facilities, usually concrete floors and very hard, high, smaller than single "beds". I have found one that uses a proper bedroom and double bed. The girls are usually attractive and offer a good service. The price seems to be 200RMB - I've given 150RMB before but the girl looked very unhappy. They will ask for 300RMB but if I cannot get for 200 I walk out.

Dont's:

As has been said before, never ever go with touts, no matter how horny you are, and there are loads around the 5 star hotels and lake. Its always a KTV scam and in HZ it is more common than in other cities because of the amount of naive tourists. Never go to the BBS's near the Radisson, they pray on the first timers and offer bad service and high price.

As always the service you get is down to the girl at the time. I've recommended the Radisson to others and the service was not as good as I had.

If you get the name of the hotel you are staying in, I can try to get more localized info for you. Feel free to ask as many questions as you like.

LS

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Da Hawayen
05-13-07, 15:02
Hi Long Stay,

I'll be in HZ for a couple of more days. Where on the west side would these BBS' be? If you could spare some street names, that would be great. I used to visit a string of them sometime last year, but ever since they renovated the road that runs in front of them, those BBS' have since closed up shop.

Consequently, I tried the Grand Metrol Park sauna last night. It's a pretty ritzy place. Just as nice as the renovated WTC sauna. Had a 19-year old with a pretty tight body and what looked to be 33C's. I lost it in the BJ and spent the rest of the time cuddling with her.

I tried the WTC sauna last week thinking I'd have better luck than the last time I tried it the week they reopend last year, but still walked away short of FS. The hotel across the street from them does offer FS though.

Nothing like the Shanghai Hotel sauna though :-).

DH

Long Stay
05-14-07, 13:38
fengtan lu:

directions: head north from tianmushan lu, half way up the block after the school on the right, there are five shops just set back from the main road. they are all relatively new, the girls all wear white mini skirts and tops. no poles outside but the shops have a pinky glow. all the business is done in secret rooms. the one furthest north has been the most consistent for me.

wen san xi lu:

directions: heading west from the city center, the block between yile lu and fengtan lu, there are around seven to eight on the left side. quite old shops but lots of girls to choose from. no secret rooms but safe enough.

also on wen san xi lu if you keep heading west there are more on the left side maybe six to seven but they are more spread out and you have to keep your eye's peeled for the poles.

gucui lu:

directions: heading north from wen er xi lu, cross the junction of wen yi lu, there are shops on the left and right, they are spread out a little but at least 10 in total right up to the bridge at the top of the road. on the right, 4th shop from the junction is the one i mentioned that has a proper bed in a bedroom. they take you out the back of the shop into another building, hence it is very safe. you can do what you like in this shop with out many restrictions or feeling rushed.

i'd say the girls in all these places are between 6 & 8's. i usually get asked for 300rmb but i never give more than 200. had a couple of df experiences but again it all comes down to the girl and her mood on the day.

happy hunting, ls

Long Stay
05-14-07, 13:42
Da Hawayen,

Can you include the prices you paid in the hotel sauna's you've used?

Thanks LS

Da Hawayen
05-15-07, 13:51
Hi LS,

Sure thing - here's what I paid at saunas I visited this past week.

a) Grand Metro Park - 775 + 20 tip to the locker boys (FS available, but lost it on BJ :-) )

b) WTC - 750 (no FS, HJ and covered BJ). I haven't had much luck at this place even when I visited them occasionally last year.

c) Dragon (across from WTC) - 600 (FS, but nothing to write home about). The main man recognized me from my countless visits last year. I kept going back to see this one girl from Harbin :-). I believe the normal price is around 650/700 though.

DH

Da Hawayen
05-15-07, 13:54
Hey LS,

Thanks for the info on the west side BBS'. I'm short of time today and have to high tail it out of here tomorrow. It would have been great to visit a string of these shops.

I'll visit on my next trip back and hope to include a trip report.

Thanks again for helping out a brother :-)

DH

Waterfish7788
05-18-07, 10:04
Will be in HangZhou early June with a tour for 2 nights. Trying to find some action locally. Did RTWFF. seems like mostly sauna and bbs. Any outcalls to the hotel avalible? and i will remember not to follow any touts.

First time being in china as i am chinese from South East Asia.

Many thanks

Waterfishh7788

Long Stay
05-19-07, 02:14
Waterfish, Hangzhou is not as well developed in this little industry as say Shanghai. The city is trying hard to crackdown on everything that will give it a bad impression. BBs are systematically getting closed down street by street. having said that almost every hotel has a sauna and massage place.

You can try some of the local clubs, G-Plus, SOS, the new Babyface and The Inn, I've been with friends and colleagues to these places and they've all scored with normal local girls (not working girls). One of my friends took two girls to his hotel from SOS just by giving them a lollipop! There are also the singing bars around the stadium, the type where you buy the flowers for the girls singing on stage, a bit of a novelty and a mystery to us Westerners but you may understand the rules better.

Many of the hotels have the usual girls wandering around the corridors but I know the Radisson and others actively kick out these kind of girls. You can take the girls from the Radisson massage place back to your room if you persuade them, but you have to have a massage first to get the girls number. I also know the BBS's opposite the Radisson do do take outs but I don't know the service quality.

Happy hunting,

LS

Jarod Taz
05-19-07, 16:34
Hi Everyone!

Long Stay, would you or anybody else know

about the "Hangzhou WHWH Business Hotel" used to be known as "Xinyu Inn"?
I am trying to figure out what kind of options do I have around this hotel (see Post #135)

I am trying to even find out their address but not info in the internet. I have a phone number 0571-87718668.

Can someone tell me if the hotel is near some Saunas that offer FS (even if anyone have stayed in this hotel-do they have one in-house?) BBS nearby?

Thanks again Long Stay for your inmense help

Cheers!

BTW how come I can't send you PM?

Long Stay
05-20-07, 04:56
Jarod,

I took a ride out to find your hotel today and to see what there is around the place. The hotel is not so easy to find! The WHWH hotels have 8 places around HZ but the one you mentioned is at No.16 Hangda Road, heading north along Hangda Rd, look for the "Industrial and Commercial Bank" on your left (No.20) there is a small road to the side with a construction site on the opposite corner . Go down the small road, past the fire station and the hotel is in the corner. It is still branded as the Xinyu Inn.

I asked the car park guy outside if they had massage, he said on the second floor, there is also a BBS style pole on the side of the hotel, I guess at night you can see this from the main road.

That area is very close to the World Trade Center (opposite, 2mins) and the Dragon (head north up Hangda then take a left at the junction, its only a short walk 5mins, in the same direction as the West Lake, 15-20mins). I didn't see any BBS in that area. Maybe a few will light up at night but I doubt it, Hangda Rd is in the center of the "Golden Circle" which is a prestigious business/office area.

There is a genuinely good bar called "Maya Bar" (take a right at the top of Hangda, 5 mins) no "action" but a good Western crowd usually gathers there. You are also close to "SOS" and "Babyface" both are big clubs with the possibility of freebies.

If you need any other info, let me know. My PM doesn't work because I didn't part with $19.95!

Happy Hunting, LS

Waterfish7788
05-20-07, 05:15
Thanks alot Long Stay.

Will pop into the local clubs for a few drink.

Thanks again,

Waterfish7788

Jarod Taz
05-21-07, 06:42
Hi Long Stay!

WOW! talk about professional courtesy!-you actualy went on a recon mission! for me. I am impressed. I am sure many of us have come accross with nice gestures like this one but this one is one for the books!

Thank you inmensily for the info. I am afraid I will have to try the Hotel saunas and BBS although the club info is helpful I will not be able to take any new freebies back to the room. Unless they have a room of their own. I might go for a stroll to Dragon or a taxy ride to the Sunny/Grand Metro Park Hotels (those are the only hotels I know of that offer FS)

Anyone else in this board has any other suggestion for Saunas/Soapland places like the soapies in Bangkok in the vacinity of the hotel or a short cab ride?

Thanks again Long Stay!

Cheers!

Daring Mood
05-23-07, 12:24
Hey Longstay
I have been living in Hangzhou for some time now, on Zhongshan Bei Lu near Tiyuchang Lu and Fengqi Lu. Do you know the area? Where would you say are the more discreet/good service BBS/massage places to go? Prices range from 50RMB to 150RMB an hour, but I would like to find a regular BBS in the area that is GF and value for money, with the possibility of take out. Agree with you about the Radisson area, too expensive, and not gf.
Daring Mood

Long Stay
05-23-07, 15:40
Hey Longstay,

I have been living in Hangzhou for some time now, on Zhongshan Bei Lu near Tiyuchang Lu and Fengqi Lu. Do you know the area? Where would you say are the more discreet/good service BBS/massage places to go? Prices range from 50RMB to 150RMB an hour, but I would like to find a regular BBS in the area that is GF and value for money, with the possibility of take out. Agree with you about the Radisson area, too expensive, and not gf.

Daring MoodHey DM,

Its good to know I'm not alone here in HZ. I know of your area but don't know it that well. My job takes a huge amount of my time and I also have commitments at home, so I don't get to explore as much as I would like.

As mentioned before, my knowledge is mainly limited to the West side and (due to budget restrictions) BBS. I don't know if you have noticed, but in the last week there has been a huge crack down of BBS's, I had a ride out the other night and 80-90% of BBS's are closed.

I cannot do take out for obvious reasons, I too would desperately love to find a good massage place that gives happy endings, the ones I've ventured into so far have all been legitimate places. Other than trying the hotels, I don't really know (yet), but when you live here, spending 500, 600 or more for a HJ in a hotel is not really my idea of value.

For a good BBS, try a trip over to the West side, (see my report about Gucui Lu). Its no 5 star hotel but the fact that they have a real bed and a couple of cute girls that let you do pretty much anything, and at 200 a pop, more than make up for the surroundings.

The HZ thread was pretty dead, I'm trying to get more local knowledge together to help everyone out, So if you have anything to share about your side of town it would be good to hear.

Sorry I cannot be more helpful this time.

Happy Hunting, LS

Rast1863
05-27-07, 16:13
Hi,

I was in Hangzhou for a short trip. The Ramada Sauna in the basement has FS. I speak mandarin so it might take a conversation but FS is available. Happy mongering.

Best,

Rast

Long Stay
05-28-07, 09:21
Do you have price?

Thanks LS


Hi,

I was in Hangzhou for a short trip. The Ramada Sauna in the basement has FS. I speak mandarin so it might take a conversation but FS is available. Happy mongering.

Best,

Rast

YoungBoss
05-28-07, 11:48
I stayed at Ramada last week for one night only. I must say the hotel is bit run down and room is not big at all despite of its great location. Anyway, I have found out that not only the Sauna offers FS, the foot massage girls on the 1st floor can also come to your room after work after a bit negotiation. I got a 35E cup girl by a tip of 800rmb. She stayed with me for 3 hours and performed satisfactrily.

I also went to Oversea Hotel' sauna. What a disappointment. Poor facility and service and selections. Don't expect much when you go there.

Overall, hangzhou is not Shanghai in terms of mongering expereince.

Dragon419
05-29-07, 10:16
Wow,

To think that FS was literally under my nose. When I stayed at the Ramada, I ventured to the sauna in the basement. The girl at the desk didn't seem too friendly so I went to Overseas Hotel that night. Young boss, were those foot massage girls from the same sauna or the foot massage place in the lobby, on the right of the elevators? I visited the lobby foot massage place at least 3 times and thought it was strictly legit. On the other hand I had a great time at Overseas. Yeah the facilities were worn out and dingy but I had a threesome and other great action there.

Rast1863
05-29-07, 14:14
The price was 600 RMB for about an hour.

YoungBoss
05-30-07, 02:13
Dragon 419,

Actually I called the foot massage shop located at Hotel lobby lever and asked them to send a girl up to my room for massage. After she came and did fair nice message on me, I suggest her to come back to my room after work finishes. At around 1:30pm she knocked my room and a whopping 35D was in front of me. So I guess not all the girls are up for the offering as the place is a legit place but some won't mind make some extra cash.

Cento
05-30-07, 05:11
We have at lest 4 reports in this forum about Grand Metro Park Hotel on pinghai 2 lu . All say that fs is sure there.
I was there and I was given a nice girl after 20 min massage she asked if I wanted Hj . I said no I want more She said Bj ? I said more ... She said no she cannot . Why ? You know why . (well I didnt know) .I insisted for about
10 min but nothing (she looked balancing on thin rope and thinking about it).
I said ok go send me a girl that will f..ck . She seemed releived and went out of the room. after 10 min knocks at the door and a girl comes in looking a bit scared . she pointed at her nose as she was asking (am I ok)? I said yyes. She made the sighn for hj I said no She made the sign for bj . I said no.
She made the sign for f..ck I said yes .. she said no no ... and I told her to find another . So another came in and this one was even funnier as she was looking at my lower area scared (I was wearing my shorts only) .
Same routine hj no bj no ...(me) ...fc no (her.) ...Enough playing I get up and leave . 250 y dammage for this pitiful night (the place is really nice )

Bottom Line : If anyone has a clue on what happened please ....share with us..

Didipod
05-31-07, 00:25
We have at lest 4 reports in this forum about Grand Metro Park Hotel on pinghai 2 lu. All say that fs is sure there.

I was there and I was given a nice girl after 20 min massage she asked if I wanted HJ. I said no I want more She said BJ? I said more. She said no she cannot. Why? You know why. (well I didn't know). I insisted for about 10 min but nothing (she looked balancing on thin rope and thinking about it).

I said ok go send me a girl that will f. Ck. She seemed releived and went out of the room. After 10 min knocks at the door and a girl comes in looking a bit scared. She pointed at her nose as she was asking (am I ok)? I said yyes. She made the sighn for HJ I said no She made the sign for BJ. I said no.

She made the sign for f. Ck I said yes. She said no no. And I told her to find another. So another came in and this one was even funnier as she was looking at my lower area scared (I was wearing my shorts only).

Same routine HJ no BJ no. (me). Fc no (her.). Enough playing I get up and leave. 250 y dammage for this pitiful night (the place is really nice)

Bottom Line: If anyone has a clue on what happened please. Share with us. Hummm. Let me take a guess. You must be a "foreigner". There is an urban myth in China that somehow foreign devils are better endowed than the locals. So from a SW point of view, more work for the the same pay at the risk of injury isn't their idea of of a good deal. Not unless you look like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt.

Hongzhou Fromca
06-05-07, 17:26
I am new. I live in Nangzhou. I am so glad to have this forum.- I don't really have anyone to talk to about this. Tomorrow I will visit Raddison. Should I call the number I got from a vendor outside, or do you recommend trying standard in-house service first? Waiting for my membership to activate; will try to provide pics, but will give detail report. I owe you guys.

Fast Eddie 48
06-05-07, 23:44
We have at lest 4 reports in this forum about Grand Metro Park Hotel on pinghai 2 lu . All say that fs is sure there.

I was there and I was given a nice girl after 20 min massage she asked if I wanted Hj . I said no I want more She said Bj ? I said more ... She said no she cannot . Why ? You know why . (well I didnt know) .I insisted for about 10 min but nothing (she looked balancing on thin rope and thinking about it).

I said ok go send me a girl that will f..ck . She seemed releived and went out of the room. after 10 min knocks at the door and a girl comes in looking a bit scared . she pointed at her nose as she was asking (am I ok)? I said yyes. She made the sighn for hj I said no She made the sign for bj . I said no.

She made the sign for f..ck I said yes .. she said no no ... and I told her to find another . So another came in and this one was even funnier as she was looking at my lower area scared (I was wearing my shorts only).

Same routine hj no bj no ...(me) ...fc no (her.) ...Enough playing I get up and leave . 250 y dammage for this pitiful night (the place is really nice )

Bottom Line : If anyone has a clue on what happened please ....share with us..To cento,

Hangzhou sauna is a hit and miss most sauna only offer hj and massage , the one that offer FS offen are over price and a big rip off , this is a tourist town so everything is over price .

Foriegn will have rough time here most sauna only offer service to regular and not for first timer and if they do they will try to rip you off.

Fast eddie 48

Long Stay
06-06-07, 06:50
I am new. I live in Nangzhou. I am so glad to have this forum.- I don't really have anyone to talk to about this. Tomorrow I will visit Raddison. Should I call the number I got from a vendor outside, or do you recommend trying standard in-house service first? Waiting for my membership to activate; will try to provide pics, but will give detail report. I owe you guys.As stated many, many times, NEVER GO WITH TOUTS! the guy outside the Radisson is from a KTV rip off place. The KTV's here are not like the ones in SH, the girls don't/won't do anything and then you be asked for 6000+ when you try to leave.

The Rad offers a good massage and HJ for 750. There are better places in HZ but all hotels are over priced! just RTF.

LS

Daring Mood
06-07-07, 12:32
Next time you face endless queues at the International Post office on Jiefeng Lu just walk around the corner to Huan Cheng Dong Lu and you'll find the Post Office Hotel. Have passed it 100s of times and decided to give it a lash on Tuesday.
In the door of the lobby, turn left and down the stairs. At midday it was a fairly bleak place, no one around except for tall Xing Li from Anhui. She was half asleep but soon awoke complaining that she was too wet. Well 200RMB later I staggered out. She knows all the tricks, is strong and really enjoys every which way. Like a teacher

DM

Hongzhou Fromca
06-09-07, 05:21
As stated many, many times, NEVER GO WITH TOUTS! the guy outside the Radisson is from a KTV rip off place. The KTV's here are not like the ones in SH, the girls don't/won't do anything and then you be asked for 6000+ when you try to leave.

The Rad offers a good massage and HJ for 750. There are better places in HZ but all hotels are over priced! just RTF.

LSWell yes, I did meet someone, who then said she would take me to someone that speaks english. This turned out to be the usual KTV scam, which I was trying to avoid. And I was no sooner at the destination when I simply used my limited mandarin to say 'I don't want anything to eat. I don't want anything to drink. Not here for food. " and left.

I was pursued down the block. And again what I learned here paid off. But reading here made me well prepared. I think I need to work on my mandarin. Thanks again for the good info.

Btw, the hole overpriced / underprised discussion is somewhat simplistic. For some of us, time and effeciency (and clean linens) are worth a lot more than these funny colored paper bills that are not in short supply. I appreciate the price information etc. , but the implied value judgements about "spending that kind of money is stupid when it is cheaper down the street" echos the Chinese ethos I get from co-workers who see no reason to pay "outrageous" rents just to live in a clean building, eat decent fruit and veggies, and not be constantly assaulted by dirt.

Long Stay
06-09-07, 09:07
Btw, the hole overpriced / underprised discussion is somewhat simplistic. For some of us, time and effeciency (and clean linens) are worth a lot more than these funny colored paper bills that are not in short supply. I appreciate the price information etc. , but the implied value judgements about "spending that kind of money is stupid when it is cheaper down the street" echos the Chinese ethos I get from co-workers who see no reason to pay "outrageous" rents just to live in a clean building, eat decent fruit and veggies, and not be constantly assaulted by dirt.I was comparing the service to price level aspect. If you read the Shanghai thread and visit Shanghai, the quality of service compared to the price is far higher in Shanghai. Hangzhou has below par service and overinflated prices. Would you be happy paying 50,000 for a Toyota, when the next town enjoys Mercedes for 40,000?

I agree there is nothing finer than I clean, stylish environment, in which to enjoy the pleasures on offer. If you find any gems, be sure to report, as the Hangzhou thread is as under serviced as the saunas.

LS

Long Stay
06-09-07, 09:13
Btw, the hole overpriced / underprised discussion is somewhat simplistic. For some of us, time and effeciency (and clean linens) are worth a lot more than these funny colored paper bills that are not in short supply. I appreciate the price information etc. , but the implied value judgements about "spending that kind of money is stupid when it is cheaper down the street" echos the Chinese ethos I get from co-workers who see no reason to pay "outrageous" rents just to live in a clean building, eat decent fruit and veggies, and not be constantly assaulted by dirt.I was comparing the service to price level aspect. If you read the Shanghai thread and visit Shanghai, the quality of service compared to the price is far higher in Shanghai. Hangzhou has below par service and overinflated prices. Would you be happy paying 50,000 for a Toyota, when the next town enjoys Mercedes for 40,000?

I agree there is nothing finer than I clean, stylish environment, in which to enjoy the pleasures on offer. If you find any gems, be sure to report, as the Hangzhou thread is as under serviced as the saunas.

LS

Long Stay
06-09-07, 09:20
Btw, the hole overpriced / underprised discussion is somewhat simplistic. For some of us, time and effeciency (and clean linens) are worth a lot more than these funny colored paper bills that are not in short supply. I appreciate the price information etc. , but the implied value judgements about "spending that kind of money is stupid when it is cheaper down the street" echos the Chinese ethos I get from co-workers who see no reason to pay "outrageous" rents just to live in a clean building, eat decent fruit and veggies, and not be constantly assaulted by dirt.I was comparing the service to price level aspect. If you read the Shanghai thread and visit Shanghai, the quality of service compared to the price is far higher in Shanghai. Hangzhou has below par service and overinflated prices. Would you be happy paying 50,000 for a Toyota, when the next town enjoys Mercedes for 40,000?

I agree there is nothing finer than I clean, stylish environment, in which to enjoy the pleasures on offer. If you find any gems, be sure to report, as the Hangzhou thread is as under serviced as the saunas.

LS

Hongzhou Fromca
06-10-07, 03:44
I was comparing the service to price level aspect. If you read the Shanghai thread and visit Shanghai, the quality of service compared to the price is far higher in Shanghai. Hangzhou has below par service and overinflated prices. Would you be happy paying 50,000 for a Toyota, when the next town enjoys Mercedes for 40,000?

I agree there is nothing finer than I clean, stylish environment, in which to enjoy the pleasures on offer. If you find any gems, be sure to report, as the Hangzhou thread is as under serviced as the saunas.

LSGood point. I would PM you but that doesn't seem to be working for me. I am in HZ for a long stay. Next will check sunny. Intresting in good in call (I am single) if you have any tips (read your situation). Will report when I find something good.

Lex Moon
06-10-07, 09:05
....... If you find any gems, be sure to report, as the Hangzhou thread is as under serviced as the saunas.

LSI tried one in Culture Hotel (not sure this is the correct name). The place doesn't offer FS openly but depends on gals. Went in late once (midnight) for a massage. Chatted with her and she offered 1000RMB for LS in my room. Told her that it was too expensive and I was tired. She lowered to 800. Accepted her offer, and she came to my room after she finished work (2am). She was not very experienced but very wet and willing to learn. She enjoyed the session and definitely no fake moaning. Hope this helps.

Other than this paid experience, it is very easy to get freebies in Hangzhou. My trick is to take for a stroll along the Westlake at night, then a bite at Haagen Daz and then for a drink. Most of them like this romantic feeling.

If you add up the cost, these are not really freebies but very good GFE.

Long Stay
06-11-07, 10:54
I tried one in Culture Hotel (not sure this is the correct name)...Indeed, "Redstar Culture Hotel Hangzhou" 280 Jianguo Nan (south) Road.

How much was the massage, or did you just do room service?

Cheers LS

Cento
06-11-07, 19:32
went to OVERSEAS hotel today :
Simple to find the sauna behind the front desk and easy to follow the long tunel to get there. Girl manager said 600 and I agreed .. I was led to a fairly decent room small and not too bad. waited to select as I thought but no .. A short small tited and below avearage girl came in . was allowed f/s but this girl was 4-5/ 10 so while I was doing it I was thinking "she should be paying me" ... only in this town I would go with her because of the non choices . Conclusion bad experience ... Choose the girl if you go .. (I will not be going back) sorry.
the bj was with a wrapper and hurt . the condoms were from a jar (I bring my own always) ...

I will be staying for 1 month so will try to report more..

Lex Moon
06-12-07, 00:04
Indeed, "Redstar Culture Hotel Hangzhou" 280 Jianguo Nan (south) Road.

How much was the massage, or did you just do room service?
Cheers LSIt was Culture Plaza Hotel (next to a book store).

I forgot the exact price for massage (maybe 200RMB).

Sorry, I didn't ask about room service.

My intention that day was to get a good massage.

Unfortunately I was persuaded to go for something more bec that naughty girl was playing with my little brother during the negotiation.

Little brain couldn't resist her naughty temptation.

Long Stay
06-14-07, 02:17
I found a good little massage place last night on Jiefang Lu. As you head away from the lake, its on the right hand side 2-300 meters from the lake. There is a big white sign showing the way, it also says "Massage" in English.

Not special inside, but you can point to the rmb 158 "oily special" on the menu. A decent enough massage with little paper shorts on, lots of chatting and laughing, my Chinese is terrible but I can do the basics, she also liked to tickle my feet once she new I was a bit sensitive. Then they do the universal HJ sign. The girl had a great technique, things got a bit hot and ended up being a great gf experience. She got almost naked and let me use my fingers and simulate sex with her (there was no condom), she was also a bit shocked when I managed to spray her bra!

Very pleasant experience, the girl made up for the below par surroundings. Total damage rmb 158 for well over an hour and a half.

Darkly 18
06-14-07, 06:39
It was Culture Plaza Hotel (next to a book store).

I forgot the exact price for massage (maybe 200RMB).

Sorry, I didn't ask about room service.

My intention that day was to get a good massage.

Unfortunately I was persuaded to go for something more bec that naughty girl was playing with my little brother during the negotiation.

Little brain couldn't resist her naughty temptation.Lex Moon,

I am staying at the Culture Plaza for a week or so. Am interested in checking out the service you mentioned. Understand that the gal was freelancing, but can you help me with the following:

1. Did you take the foot massage or body massage service at the health centre?

2. Did you get to choose your gal?

3. Can the massage take place in your room (easier to be approached)?

4. Any special requests at the health centre front desk?

Thanks!

Lex Moon
06-14-07, 23:05
Lex Moon,

1. Did you take the foot massage or body massage service at the health centre?

2. Did you get to choose your gal?

3. Can the massage take place in your room (easier to be approached)?

4. Any special requests at the health centre front desk?

Thanks!1. I took the body massage.

2. No choice. It just happened that I got a naughty gal.

3. Not sure. I think it is possible.

4. I don't think so. Seems like a 'decent' massage place.

Other info.

You will see a few BBS across the hotel and nearby back alley.

More BBS near the train station.

You may be able to pick up freebies from a very loud Chinese disco near the Westlake. Sorry I don't know the name but you wouldn't miss the super loud noise.

Are you visiting factories?

I find it easy to get one of their english speaking assistant to spend a weekend with. Just tell them you need help and treat them very nice.

Darkly 18
06-16-07, 18:56
1. I took the body massage.

2. No choice. It just happened that I got a naughty gal.

3. Not sure. I think it is possible.

4. I don't think so. Seems like a 'decent' massage place.

Other info.Thanks- I did try the body massage and had a shortish gal who was a bit shy. Didn't look like the naughty type and she didn't offer. May try another one next time- heard there are three of them.

Will check out your suggestion on the assistants!

Lex Moon
06-17-07, 06:25
Thanks- I did try the body massage and had a shortish gal who was a bit shy.Try to go there past 11 or near midnight.

I 'guess' the chances may be better late night.

Do you speak Chinese?

I speak a little bit so they usually like to tease/teach me more Chinese.

Good luck.

Cento
06-18-07, 14:25
Went to LAKE VIEW hotel Yesterday and was given a 6/10 girl . Full service available But really I would rather have stayed home and f***ed a chair or something.
This girl cost me 600 and just came in never even grinned undressed did the dead for 20 min ( I was trying very hard to get it over with) and dressed and left (same attitude from me) because I wanted to get out of there asap.
I think the same as before Hz has too much tourists and they process things acordingly.

Thanks Cento

Sinohz
06-19-07, 16:43
Hi Guys,

I've never experienced greek in my life and would really like to try it once... is there anywhere in HZ that offers this at a reasonable cost?

P.S. I tried the Post Office hotel but they only offered normal massage no FS. I persisted and even spoke to the boss (I can speak some chinese) and he said "no girl now."

P.S.S I also tried that small streert intersecting with Zhongshan Zhong Rd. at some BBS and it was the worse fs of my life. Probably because I should have just left the moment I entered that place. Oh well. Live and learn.

Hongzhou Fromca
06-21-07, 16:22
I've seen a number of places that got reviews get recent reports of no service. I am thinking sunny hotel is now the best bet for more than an comprehensive message. Any other suggestions? I'the like quality and modicum of comfort. I am pretty much ready to book a weekend in shanghai. This is looking sad. Have I mssed something. I am in Dalian and at least a phone number on the thread there proved to have potential (but due to geography not a possibility for me. Until next time). So what is it.- what the best, or even top 3, HZ bets? Or are there three?

Valleysboyo
06-21-07, 19:56
First time for everything and this is mine.

First time to post and first time to Hangzhou!

Question to you great guys who know so much. Are there any red ropes places in Hangzhou lik ein Shanghai?

If so I want to try when I go there in 2 weeks. If I get some action I will
definately post for all.

Thanks guys

Boyo

Dragon419
06-22-07, 07:06
IMHO red ropes is not that great a deal. But if you've never experienced it, I guess its worth the price of admission at least once. For me, I'd invest a few more RMB in a threesome. In many places its just 200 RMB more for the second girl.

Dragon419
06-22-07, 07:20
HZ Fromca and any newbies that this might apply to...My favorite place was the Overseas Chinese Hotel a block from Westlake up near the Haihua (Ramada Plaza Hotel) Hotel. Just remember if you don't get to pick from a lineup, you can always turn down the girl they send to your room. Even if you don't speak Chinese, simple facial and hand gestures can politely tell them that she is not your type. Maybe you can say you want one with bigger (or smaller) boobs, or taller or whatever. Especially if you are a foreigner and a new customer they will send the least popular girls first to help them make some money and gain experience. Its a business. If the third girl doesn't suit your needs then get start to leave and ask for your money back or chalk it up to experience. But the better girls are there in the evening after 8 pm and they get really busy around 10:30 and later. But for the price of 600 RMB you should get FS anywhere in China. Sorry if you are not a newbie, just sharing my 2 cents.

Haggishk
06-26-07, 15:33
Ok, now this is my first post, and I do intend to do more considering I have read up so much on these forums, but none catch my tastes. I am not into the whole sauna/massage or BBS (god forbid). But I have seen a few interesting things recently. This rep is not a tale of success but simply a start point for all you, like me, that ARE prepared to pay, but enjoy a bar night out with the chance of a pickup.

Start.

Started at Paradise rock bar (next to overseas Chinese hotel, dead the night I went except for a very helpfull guy from the states) with a couple of well needed cold ones. The bar staff here are really great fun (good bar staff) and the beer is COLD! Left there at about 10 with my guide (the american) who promised to show me where the fun can be had (not wrong). Joy's. Just around the corner. Got a table straight away, which for a bar/disco in China is amazing, and got ourselves more COLD! Beer. My guide said I should just walk around and be nice (you will see he said) and eventually we were swapping back and forth between 2 tables of locals out to get pissed. The girls were grinding away and the guys just getting totally hammered. I found that amazingly if you just go up to a table of mostly girls (couple of guys with them for 'protection' I guess) and say cheers, the doors open (I don't speak mandarin, but they try to help). Anyway by the time it gets to 2am my legs are killing from the grinding with numerous different birds, pissed from all the drinks and a cell number put in my pocket by a very enthusiastic young thing.

I didn't take anything to my hotel but it was deffinitely on offer, so if you are in HZ (or any other Chinese city) just take the plunge in the bars, it does help if you have a mate with you cause at least you don't look like a complete tit on your own, but as I said at the beginning this rep is just a start point for newbies (and I will not go for the BBS kind of thing). So if some of you out there feel the same way start posting even if it is only that you found a bar where there is possibility!

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Daring Mood
06-27-07, 02:31
Hey Haggishk
I know well the area near the Lake you are referring to. Just curious what night of the week you hit Paradise and Joys?
TIA
Daring Mood

[QUOTE=Haggishk]

Hongzhou Fromca
06-27-07, 19:34
HZ Fromca and any newbies that this might apply to...My favorite place was the Overseas Chinese Hotel a block from Westlake up near the Haihua (Ramada Plaza Hotel) Hotel. Just remember if you don't get to pick from a lineup, you can always turn down the girl they send to your room.... Thank you thank you thinak you. Maybe I will never leave China. I have a weekend in shanghai booked since I ws discouraged by the HZ thread. Silly me.

I could not wait for the weekend. Too anxious. Too curious. So I g'gled and got a clear map. See overseas Chinese hotel just up a big from the hyatt on hu bin lu. Printed a few select mandarin phrases that might be need.

Cab drops me in front of establishment at 39 hu bin lu. Having seen it on the web I new it was the right place, and while some hotel reviews complained of shappiness, it was pretty nice by local standards. Solid 3 stars.

I fretted a lot about the time. But didn't get to that neighborhood until almost 10. Decided that was fine. Walked straight into the lobby like I knew what I was doing. Headed toward the pack crossing where I could see the reg. Desk. Saw the opening that looked like it lead somewhere and a sign above it saying something about suana, message, health center whatever. And not wanting to more than glance, like an old hand, I headed down the corridor.

Now I will admit to both some captain morgan on the way over, and some minor phramacuitical supplement to insure no tragic disappointments. Perhaps overkill, but this newbie is approaching five decades on the planet, so no precaution seemed too much. In fact having read so much, been in close proximity to near-KTV scams and one disappoiting cow-in-your-room experience (no knowledge, no enthusiasm, no effort, just please, do your thing and let me make my case for a tip. Enough to make most people reform for life.) I went sans expensive timepiece, sans passport (copy of same and visa), only Amex platinum that can't give me cash if I bet, not much more money that I am told I should spend, dictionary, reading material (I am nothing if not prepared.) and so at the end of the corridor I come to a desk. I am clean cut. Early middle age. Professional. White-boy from suburbs. They don't "wonder" why I am there. The price list on the wall gets a glance, but the lady punches in 600 in the calculator and I agree with more enthusiasm than neccessary.

I am escorted up one or two flights of stairs. Maybe two. One flight up seemed perhaps more public / legit stuff. I am calm (me and capt morgan), and unhurried. I get to the locker. I pause. I put stuff inside but keep a cover and some change in my palmn. Wanted to keep the second xlg cvr but wasn't sure if I was coming back here before msg or what.

But they are effecient. I'the already showered at home, and they took me straight to a nice room. Mat on floor. Tea. Mamasan come sin. Suggest two girls. I reesist. She insists it is worth it. I decline. My mandarin is more than adequat for this. She is again quite firm. I decide, okay what the hec. Price still below 1000. And we are clear that this is at least an hour. (but maybe she said two.)

Well the rest is simple. I was not rushed. Local hangzhou ren and zhen zhen girl come in together. Both smoking. Only figuratively. My book they are 10s but I am a newbie. Eventually learn one bladie, one not. The do a tandom job of trying to message me. I like it. At one point I say don't rush it. I am enthusiastic once or twice about removing mine or their clothes, and they cover the window on the door and get serious.

My my my. Perfect bodies. One claimed 21 years. One small on top the other average. Both lean and taught. (who isn't at that age). Lots of various rubbing and message. FS is on the offer, as is everything else, but everything covered. Between the run, the latex and the situation, the ladies had lots of work to do. Plus there was the inevitable "too big" in many many forms. But they really did work it and do what they could. Cbbj eventually did the trick. Really nice girls. The business side came out when I seemed to be ready for act two. But due to size they really only wanted to offer HJ, which was accepted at a stated price of 100. I was actually going to 'do by self' but what the heck the attention was nice and again lots of closeness. Nothing exautic. One did get a bit damp, which amazed me since the predominate motif was fear (of giant mr. Snake). I will forgo phrama in the future which will help on that score. In fact future mongering will be "straight edge".- no senses dulled (until after).

I won't give out the name of my fav since my new favorite fantasy is a giant bar fine that allows me to take her home an marry her.

During the cool down on a couch, I was offered frut and a touch of soup. Back down a level. Mamasan came to chat. I gushed over the place and the ladies. She gave me her card. Talke about where we were from etc. Then she made clear that in the future I got her curtesy discount.- 500 vs. 600 (one shot, one girl I gather). Very nice of her.

There was once a girl. Korean american. Way out of my league. Pushing 40 and hoping I was "newport rich". Wow. While it lasted it was, on a visual level, the peak of my life. That is in the dust.

I am reminded of the joke (attribution? ) that "next time I feel like getting married I will go out and find a woman that can't stand me an buy her a house". So I will not execute any fantasy just yet. Perhaps do a week in Thailand to give me perspective.

I can't say to other newbies enough that read up, study, then take your time and follow the path others have taken, and even with little zhong wen and less saavy, you can enjoy the delights of asia with ease, safty and comfort, by reading up and being careful.

We'll see about shanhai this weekend. I almost wish I was staying here, since I don't think I'll ever go to another place except OCH again. Smitten I am. Its kinda cute. To me.

30 years of working the angles, makin' other people happy, trading excitement for the sure thing, getting "serviced" rather than adored. Well, gentleman, I am very happy to have found the new approach.- pay and if you get more than mere service back, drink it in, lap it up, enjoy it.

As I left the building I turned left. On the corner there was a pub. New 3 of first four chars, and the realized that the second four char word ended in "ba" often found on the end of names of "bar". So I go in. Order a celebratory beer. Carlsburg. Big table of germans, mixed gender, and a local firl or two hoping to make new friends. One youngster comes to the bar to order a beer. I hear its 24 kaui. Hm. They are big beers (full liter? ) half? Anyway, its still only 8 bucks and it is COLD. The youngster says come on staurday its packed withi international crowd. It is pretty dead at midnight on Wednesday. I ask for the name of the place and he says "paradise bar".- english sign on the other side. So having read the recent post I was planning to find it, and lo, I fell in. So a I think I know where I will go every other week, and what bar I might hit on the weekends.

I was starting to think that this whole web site could be part of an elaborate scam. There are soem out there. But the price is too low;.) and the pics are pretty darn convincing. Welll. Now I'm a believer. (when I saw her xxxx) yea.

Thanks veryone for geting this newby off the ground. Soon I will be the guide.

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Hongzhou Fromca
06-27-07, 19:59
I won't go for two often, but there was some advantages not pointed out before. Most obivous, when one gets tired, the other trades in. Further, they encourage each other. (both were pretty game about an outsided er aparatus going at them). But the real treat was having one fondel the giblets while another is guiding the craft into dock. And a final and humerous case: with attempting to get through the door into the cave in mish, sister helper is up against my backside rythmically nudging to help pile drive it home. As her partner is clearing doin' the best she could and vocalizing a smidge or strain. At least they had some lube to prevent any risk of damage, but still, the struggle detracts from the moment big time for me. Will have to find some cuty tiny one that is, er, big on the inside. But not too! Or otherwise find a balance.

Long Stay
06-28-07, 16:34
I found a little gold mine the other night.

I decided to learn "massage" in Chinese "按摩" and it's really opened my eyes. With my new found knowledge I set out in pursuit of a place to relax. I headed down "Wen San Xie Lu" and almost rode out of town before I came across this place at number 606.

A nice looking building, and it says "sauna, foot massage" on the side in English. You go in the door then get in an elevator to the 3rd floor. Inside I was shown the price list. Rmb218 was the most expensive thing on the list, so I just pointed at that. They have the usual sauna shower routine. Was taken to the room without any expectations. Was shown a girl, she looked okay so I agreed, (I guess I could have changed the girl if I wanted as the mamasan asked if she was okay).

Once inside the girl asked me if I wanted her to give me a breast massage, she mentioned it was Rmb318 and I agreed.

What followed was the best hour and a half I've had in China, including Shanghai. She started by giving me a usual massage but soon took off my shorts. She then gave a really good breast massage and she had very soft breasts. After 10 mins of this she sat down at my feet and lifted me up into a kind of wheel barrow position, my legs where resting on her legs and her body in the middle. She had full access to all the best bits! Lots of ass play and teasing the bit between your balls and ass, it was really good, 10 mins later she flipped my over into more or less the same position. Lots more teasing and was given a great tit wank, followed by a really good HJ. During the HJ my hands worked there way up her inner thighs but she edged away a little twice, so I took this as a sign that that bit was a no go area, her breasts where on the menu however. I was soon satisfied and felt completely spent. Afterwards she put my shorts back on and asked if I wanted a massage. I agreed and left 30 mins later.

Total damage Rmb328, the girl asked me to tick a box next to Rmb10, she said thank you so I assume that was her tip.

Not pushy in any way. Good service, and I got exactly what I have been looking for in HZ. I don't know if FS is on offer but sometimes I want a more relaxed service where someone else does the hard work.

I will be making this a regular place to visit, unless I have a bad experience, of which I will be sure to report, but as of now, highly recommended.

LS

Hongzhou Fromca
06-29-07, 18:08
I found a little gold mine the other night.

I decided to learn "massage" in Chinese "按摩" and it's really opened my eyes. With my new found knowledge I set out in pursuit of a place to relax. I headed down "Wen San Xie Lu" and almost rode out of town before I came across this place at number 606.LSI know this is the HZ thread, but I took the fast train to Shanghai today 84 minutes. Had studied the SH thread and bought the tickets before I fell in love at overseas Chinese. And how I have 606 to try. Anyway, read my post for SH if you are looking for a fun weekend and feel like gettin' outta HZ for an overnighter.

Thanks again LS!

Member #1344
07-25-07, 15:55
A few evenings ago, I decided that it was time to try to find a girl who would come back to my place with me. The first taxi driver I talked to took me to a KTV place. Once we entered, I was pretty wary due to the scams I've read about. He promised me that I would be able to take out the girl when her shift ended at 2 am, and that it would only cost 300 RMB. I told him that I'd come back at 2 am with him and pay the 300, but I wouldn't wait in the room for her since I thought they would charge me some extravagant fee. In the end, we couldn't come to terms so I left without paying anything.

The second taxi driver I talked to was a more decent kind of guy. He drove me to several sauna's and asked the doormen if they had girls who were available for takeout. They all said that the girls could only be seen in the sauna's/clubs. Now I'm not sure where I was in Hangzhou, but all of these places weren't in a standard hotel. After a few strikeouts, I asked him if he knew of a BBS where you could take a girl out. He calls his buddy and is told to go to an area near the train station. When we drive out there and stop, two mama-san's approach and enter the taxi immediately. After chatting a bit, we settle on 400 RMB for overnight, which I think is still a little expensive. They call two girls to come out, and since one of them was a 6, I just chose her and off we went. She had a bit of an attitude at the beginning, but after a while it softened so it was a decent time.

I kept the cell phone number of the taxi driver as well as one of the mama-san's, so I may try this again in the future. If anyone wants them, PM me and I can send them to you. They don't speak English though, so you'll need to be able to speak at least a little broken Chinese.

Nosebleed
08-03-07, 03:08
Just experienced my first scam. Guess I wasn't invincible.

I met a 'friendly' Taxi driver who told me that Baby Face has moved/changed into a talking bar complex called Top Red. It's located near the "European Street" or where Armani and Hermis are located. It sounded interesting since I've never been to one. I guessed wrong, it was a KTV scam.

Rules I learned that applied in this place: Watch the orders coming into the room and turn them away. Don't trust taxi drivers.

First off, I didn't know I was in a scam cuz I kept thinking I was in a talking bar. That happenned to have KTV and girls to sit with you. I trusted the wrong taxi driver. He even gave me a card so I thought his friendliness was more legit.

I won't go into more details about the place, cuz it's been talked to death. Long story short, the bill came to 2400 + 600 tip for the 2 girls. I tried the business talk them down in a slow and steady tone. But only knocked off 500 RMB, which they said the girls will have to pay. Bull. Shit.

I didn't want to start any trouble with a yelling match although sometimes I did with them. Conclusion, I think you still need to do a yelling match to get anywhere. That's what I hate most about China.

Well, ISG'ers, thanks for listening to my venting and be warned not to do what I did. A scam doesn't always start with a KTV, especially when you're a trusting fool like me. And I think what my second taxi driver said, "You should have gone to a sauna! Then at least you get your rocks off! "

But FYI, I wasn't looking to do that, just wanted to do some research into a new field. With terrible results.

Cheers,

NB

Didipod
08-03-07, 15:16
Just experienced my first scam. Guess I wasn't invincible.

I met a 'friendly' Taxi driver who told me that Baby Face has moved/changed into a talking bar complex called Top Red. It's located near the "European Street" or where Armani and Hermis are located. It sounded interesting since I've never been to one. I guessed wrong, it was a KTV scam.

Rules I learned that applied in this place: Watch the orders coming into the room and turn them away. Don't trust taxi drivers.

First off, I didn't know I was in a scam cuz I kept thinking I was in a talking bar. That happenned to have KTV and girls to sit with you. I trusted the wrong taxi driver. He even gave me a card so I thought his friendliness was more legit.

I won't go into more details about the place, cuz it's been talked to death. Long story short, the bill came to 2400 + 600 tip for the 2 girls. I tried the business talk them down in a slow and steady tone. But only knocked off 500 RMB, which they said the girls will have to pay. Bull. Shit.

I didn't want to start any trouble with a yelling match although sometimes I did with them. Conclusion, I think you still need to do a yelling match to get anywhere. That's what I hate most about China.

Well, ISG'ers, thanks for listening to my venting and be warned not to do what I did. A scam doesn't always start with a KTV, especially when you're a trusting fool like me. And I think what my second taxi driver said, "You should have gone to a sauna! Then at least you get your rocks off! "

But FYI, I wasn't looking to do that, just wanted to do some research into a new field. With terrible results.

Cheers,

NBI go to Hangzhou for business quite a bit, it is one of the worst place in China for scams. Not a real surprise since it is the no.1 destination for domestic tourists. Whether you are Chinese or a foreigner, the taxi drivers tend to be the start. Based on my experience, the only sure thing is a sauna at 4 or 5 star hotel, even the 3 star hotel saunas can scam you.

Zhuren
08-07-07, 18:14
Adding to the consensus that this town might be beautiful and full of ancient history, but a very bad place for our sport. Avoid.

Softy
08-07-07, 18:32
One sure place for mongering in Hangzhou - although you must beware of the quality - is the bus station. About a year ago, I had the "pleasure" of taking a bus from Jinhua to Hangzhou, and, upon exiting the station, there were about 50 to 60 girls asking for 100 to 200 rmb to accompany one back to the hotel. While this was a year ago, there were some country girl, rough gems amongst the girls.

I am not certain where the bus station is as I was met there by a driver, but maybe some Hangzhou regulars could help with that. And also, beware that at least rudimentary Mandarin is a necessity.

Zhuren
08-07-07, 18:51
Yeah, it's the bus station .... to get out of town.



One sure place for mongering in Hangzhou - although you must beware of the quality - is the bus station. About a year ago, I had the "pleasure" of taking a bus from Jinhua to Hangzhou, and, upon exiting the station, there were about 50 to 60 girls asking for 100 to 200 rmb to accompany one back to the hotel. While this was a year ago, there were some country girl, rough gems amongst the girls.

I am not certain where the bus station is as I was met there by a driver, but maybe some Hangzhou regulars could help with that. And also, beware that at least rudimentary Mandarin is a necessity.

Softy
08-07-07, 22:31
Yeah, it's the bus station .... to get out of town.


Well, quite true...LOL

Long Stay
08-08-07, 06:11
You guys are right, Hangzhou is a bad place for scams but no more so than in other places and this is a tourist town after all. Prices are higher for everything not just the girls.

It may not be offered to you on a plate in Hangzhou, but if you take the time to look in the less obvious places, Hangzhou is as full of variety and as active as any other place in China.

One simple rule as stated many, many times, never go with taxi drivers and never go with touts no matter which head you're thinking with. Stick to that and you can have as much fun as you want in Hangzhou.

A great place found recently on "Wensanxi Lu" heading west just past the "Gudun Lu" intersection. The place is lit up like Christmas at night and has "Bath House" in English. 400 a pop, shower and a choice of girls, no frills but a massage after too. Not bad for a safe sure bet.

Don't be so hard on HZ in the future - just take the time to find for yourself and don't forget to add anything you find.

Happy Hunting LS

Zhuren
08-08-07, 09:55
I live in Beijing. I travel to Chinese cities a lot. I usually don't file reports on the outings to the provinces, yielding to (and drawing on) the superior wisdom of ISG members with local carnal knowledge.

Sitting on the flight back from Hangzhou, I feel compelled to file a report on that ancient city nonetheless.

Let me preface it that I never ever leave Beijing without my trusted sidekick and adjutant, a native Beijinger who's seen it all, and who can develop a haughty "I'm from the Nation's Capital, and who the heck are you" attitude.

However, let this report be testimony that even the best trained and battle-hardened A-team can fail in a hostile environment such as Hangzhou.

Phase One: Faced with a business trip to HZ, we turn to the premier source of intimate intelligence: ISG. Preliminary battle-field assessment: Beware of scams, results spotty at best, quality low.

Phase Two: Sidekick activates guanxi, and places calls to local sources. They recommend the fast train to Shanghai. Or Yiwu for a more rugged fare.

Phase Three: Having finished our business in HZ, and deterred by the reports, an objective is formulated: Enlist a companion for the night in the comfortable and cushy environment of a 5star hotel. Its name will remain undisclosed in light of the sensitivity of the matter.

Due to the dearth of actionable intelligence, Adjudant recommends to employ the blatant frontal attack strategy: A call is placed to the concierge, explaining that the lao wei lao ban desires company of the opposite sex, for the night. General concurs and the attack commences.

"Mei wen ti," is the answer. "Proceed to the beauty salon in B1 and take your pick of willing lovelies. There will be a line-up."

Elevator down.

General and Adjudant survey the troops: Two grumpy girls that look like right out of hairdressing school. General picks the lesser evil, tells Adjudant to dismiss the other, and to enter into negotiations.

First offer of selectee: "Two hundred American for the hour."

Shen me??? 200 USD??? For the frikken hour???

It is explained to her that we're talking pricing levels of Tokyo, Manhattan, or Berlin, that she would have to be three times as beautiful to command such a price, in addition to performing intricate sexual acts she never thought possible.

She drops the price to 4000 Yuan for the night.

The General orders a retreat.

She follows to the elevator and makes a last and final offer: "3000 RMB for the night."

The General is usually not adverse to premium prices for premium quality. But half of the equation is totally amiss.

Adjudant from Beijing gets upset about the insolent min gong lady, and suggests to her to get a face lift, a university degree, and then try her luck at Passion in Beijing, if she ever wants to get paid 3000 a night.

Negotiations are broken off.

A foot patrol of the bar street at the lake does not produce results.

Desperate situations call for desperate measures: A taxi driver.

He takes the team to a sauna, called "Prince Harbor." Its entrance looks like the entrance to a nuclear bomb shelter. Closer inspection reveals: It was, possibly still is. "Well, there won't be a lack of decontamination facilities," quips the General, and instructs the Adjudant to enter the bomb shelter and into negotiations with the management.

The manager's offer is reasonable: "Pick a girl from a line-up, get massage, pay 1000 and take her to the hotel later. All-inclusive."

The manager explains that the staff speaks English. The Adjudant is dismissed for R&R.

The line-up consists of 5 females of the 3-5 category. A skinny and a pudgy one are picked in the interest of a diverse diet.

The bathtub does not work.

The shower is unassisted. The girls remain dressed.
A perfunctory massage ensues, with minimum attention to value targets.

Then the male manager interupts the session and wants money "for sex."

"I don't want sex with you," says the General. The manager explains, it's for sex with the ladies. Eyebrows go up. 600 + 600 = 200 more than agreed. Ok, what the hell. Two girls instead of one. Money changes hands. 600 for pudgy, 600 for skinny.

Girl disrobe and continue mediocre massage in the buff. A little cat bath with the jelly-cones in the mouth. Nothing more.

Then another demand for 600 each for a BJ of undefined variety. General pretends not to understand. They make the internationally agreed hand signal for blowjob, and write 600 on a pad.

The Adjudant is called via phone. Adjudant instructs pudgy to hold up the agreed bargain and follow the boss to the hotel. Pudgy retreats for instructions of her own. Comes back and says nobody knows nothing about a take-away, and she was instructed to finish the job on-site. Additional charge demanded drops to 400, for which she claims the customer "could do whatever he desires."

General surveys troops and announces a sudden lack of desires of any kind. Adjudant recommends to vacate the position immediately: "Don't shoot. Scoot!"

On exit, fees of undetermined height are discussed, based on the allegation that FS was had with both ladies. Adamantly denied. Adjudant is summoned via phone and negotiates a facility charge of 341 yuan. Given the presence of several bulky males with tattoos, the compromise is accepted.

The bomb shelter is vacated. The night is spent in solitary as pennance for a stupid move.

Final analysis: The consensus of HZ being scam central is confirmed. Prince Harbor should be mined. Given its hardened location, bombing would be ineffectual.

Flying back to Beijing. It's abbreviated BJ for a reason.

Didipod
08-08-07, 23:50
Zhuren,

Wtf? I myself have listed at least a half dozen places to get FS sauna at the major hotels, and average price around 600RMB. To go through what you did is akin to trying to reinvent the wheel. Hangzhou is full of scams, but there are also plenty of sure bets. If you stick with the tried and true, you will be fine.

Long Stay
08-09-07, 05:53
I know of the said underground location (very close to Hooters).

In my inexperienced days I went there curtsy of a local taxi driver, I was offered the goods for 400 but declined due to afore mentioned hulks on the door.

If only you had my report below yours you would have had a very safe bet for 400.

Hangzhou is hard for the non-residents, that fact is undeniable.

LS

Zhuren
08-09-07, 06:29
Didi:

The hotel was one of the, if not THE major hotel in HZ. Next time, we'll lodge in one of your recommendations.

Actually, when choosing the 5 star hotel, we had read and acted upon your recommendation:


I go to Hangzhou for business quite a bit, it is one of the worst place in China for scams. Not a real surprise since it is the no.1 destination for domestic tourists. Whether you are Chinese or a foreigner, the taxi drivers tend to be the start. Based on my experience, the only sure thing is a sauna at 4 or 5 star hotel, even the 3 star hotel saunas can scam you.


I had already admitted that the taxi driver was a stupid move. And I accepted my punishment: Solitary for one night.

I maintain my recommendation regarding the Prince Harbor. Steer clear.

I also maintain that HZ is a fine destination for silk, ancient history, fresh air etc. But it's definitely not amongst the prime destinations for our sport.

PS regarding taxing drivers: Anywhere in the world, the advice of a taxi driver should always be the last "if all else fails" resort. However, their advice is not always bad. They live in the area. Sure, they usually get a kick-back. But they know the area better than you do.

Sage advice from the Adjudant: If you are in a strange city in China, with no place to go, hop in a taxi and say "qu da shi jie" (drive me to the Big World) - it's a massage center with outlets in most cities.

Didipod
08-09-07, 07:35
Didi:

The hotel was one of the, if not THE major hotel in HZ. Next time, we'll lodge in one of your recommendations.

Actually, when choosing the 5 star hotel, we had read and acted upon your recommendation:

I had already admitted that the taxi driver was a stupid move. And I accepted my punishment: Solitary for one night.

I maintain my recommendation regarding the Prince Harbor. Steer clear.

I also maintain that HZ is a fine destination for silk, ancient history, fresh air etc. But it's definitely not amongst the prime destinations for our sport.

PS regarding taxing drivers: Anywhere in the world, the advice of a taxi driver should always be the last "if all else fails" resort. However, their advice is not always bad. They live in the area. Sure, they usually get a kick-back. But they know the area better than you do.

Sage advice from the Adjudant: If you are in a strange city in China, with no place to go, hop in a taxi and say "qu da shi jie" (drive me to the Big World) - it's a massage center with outlets in most cities.The thing is, you don't even have to stay at the hotel to use the sauna. They are open to all. And all you have to do is to ask the front desk where the sauna is located.

Biztraveller1
08-20-07, 03:59
Anyone know where to go for a good massage considering the Radisson Sauna is closed.

Any recomendations is appreciated.

Long Stay
08-20-07, 05:52
Anyone know where to go for a good massage considering the Radisson Sauna is closed.

Any recomendations is appreciated.Just walk into any 4/5 star hotel, they all have the same service.

World Trade Centre hotel has been recommended but I've never been there. Also try the Dragon Hotel - 550 a pop, not a bad service.

Or try the smaller places all around town - same result but 1/5 of the price of Raddison.

LS

Thermal
08-28-07, 16:18
this is my very first report on my very first experience with a professional girl. and i am in my late 40's. *^_^* i have read the forum for a couple of weeks, trying to learn something before i made a trip to beijing/hangzhou. i learned enough.

i am staying near the old campus of zhejiang university. after dinner with my hosts tonight i went walking to see if i could find anything of interest. i saw two massage parlors and one obvious-looking hotel with nobody near the front doors (it was 8:30pm or so). i am a newbie, and walking into one of these places without seeing a hint as to what is inside is intimidating to me. try not to laugh. they looked promising, but i decided i could not keep walking past them all night waiting to see a girl, so i headed back to my hotel, where i arrived before 9:00pm.

the hotel is the ling feng hotel, and it has a "beauty saloon & massage, " which i called my first night here and discovered they spoke zero english--i speak almost zero mandarine, and that was a disconnect. tonight, after being frustrated by empty massage parlors, i decided to find the place in person. according to the service guide it is on the first floor. after searching for a while i found it tucked down a long hallway on the fourth floor.

as i walked in, the lady manager of the establishment was summoned. i asked her how much for a massage (in english). she said, "one hundred yuen, " in english. i accepted and she asked my room number, which i told her in english and broken mandarin. she nodded and i went to my room.

i am paranoid; i went quickly to my room and hid anything of value.

a few minutes later a pretty but slightly chunky, young girl knocked on my door and i let her in. initial impression: body 5, face 7. she locked the door and i started removing my clothes. when i got down to my shirt and underpants, she stopped me and said, "massage. ok. sigga sigga (touching my dick, waving her hands, and then holding up six fingers). i know "sigga" means this or that, but i had no idea what i was going to get for 600 rmb, so i played dumb and said. "massage".

as she suggested with her hands, i put my shirt back on and laid down on the bed.

at this point her attitude was confusing. she had my shirt on and off a couple of times, and then suddenly indicated that i could fuck her and sleep the night with her for 600 rmb. i wasnt really interested. [i spent the afternoon pounding the graduate student i came here to visit. she has the classic, slender, chinese body that makes me love chinese girls. i was not pent up. ] i kept telling my massage girl, "massage. "

after a long massage of mixed attittude, she finally got me nice and hard. i asked for a handjob using sign language and was given a price of 500 rmb. i countered with 300 rmb and got that price. dont laugh; i am new! okay. after stroking me a while she suggested she use her mouth for 500 rmb. we settled on 400 rmb. i motioned for her to take off her shirt. by this point her attitude was great and soon i realized i had under estimated her body. she had a nice body and was not as chunky as i thought. shes not as nice as my grad student girl, but shes nice. body 7, face 7, attitude 7.

she went to the bathroom and prepared some hot and cold water. that was a new experience for me. well. okay. it was all new! it was a cbj, and i was shocked at how fast i came. ooops. i am a newbie. i gave her a 50 yuen tip and became her best friend, with kisses, hugs and smiles.

i think ill try to pull the same trick tomorrow: my graduate student in the afternoon and a massage in the evening. next time i hope my nerves are not so bad that i come at lightening speed during my hot/cold water mouth massage. :.)

thank you isg! now, if hangzhou is a dry city full of scams, consider the ling feng hotel. it is the university guest house and is almost at the gates of the graduate campus. the rooms are cheap and clean, and the "beauty saloon & massage" has many possibilities for those of you who are more experienced than a newbie!

(600 rmb all night seems like a good price. i might have it tomorrow.)

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Clandestine782
09-08-07, 16:21
Does anyone have a contact in Hangzhou? I am going to go there for one day, and would like to have a threesome (two guys-- a friend of mine-- and one girl).

I'm not sure how to arrange this, and maybe someone has the number/ contact information of a Mamasan that could be sent by PM and I could call and negotiate with her directly.

My selling point would be that we are willing to pay up to 2.5x the market price for overnight and the girl would make good money for only one night's work (albeit very hard work).

Remy Ken
09-12-07, 10:05
Hi Long Stay,

I would like to know the excat location for that gold mine you mentioned about. If i were to tell a taxi driver to take me to, 606 at 'wen san xie lu'? Will he be able to understand? Or is there any other more precise address?

Thanks for the info, cheers!

Long Stay
09-13-07, 07:30
Hi Long Stay,

I would like to know the excat location for that gold mine you mentioned about. If i were to tell a taxi driver to take me to, 606 at 'wen san xie lu'? Will he be able to understand? Or is there any other more precise address?

Thanks for the info, cheers!I went by that place the other night, the building was covered in scaffolding, I doubt its open now. As for the address yes, 606 Wen San Xi Lu would get you there.

I can offer an alternative. At the junction of Wen Er Xi Lu / Gu Dun Lu you will see a bank on the south west corner, head west down Wen Er Xi Lu about 100 meters or so towards the direction of UME cinema (but not that far). There is a large bath house on the left hand side of the road (400 a pop, massage not so good) a few doors down in yellow paint is another massages place, go late and you get a secret HJ. All good for 130 + tip.

Enjoy LS

Remy Ken
09-14-07, 07:45
Haha, yah. I went over last night. I managed to find '606' with the help of a taxi driver. Disappointed when saw the banners saying reopening for biz in october. It is above century mart, and the escalators to the 3rd floor had been blocked.

Anyway thanks for your alternative suggestion. But i simply stay to far away from 'wen san xi lu', I live around 'cai he' police sation. From my place to 606 cost me 48rmb cab fare and the whole journey to and fro cost me nearly 100rmb. I went over to try out cos of the service you mentioned they provide. Do you have any other 'gold mine' to intro? haha!

Or we can meet up to explore new places if you have the time. =)

Cheers, and bye for now.

Bonzo1
09-16-07, 05:01
Was there for one day last week and can attest that while it is a nice place and plenty of pretty girls it's a really difficult place to monger (most difficult I've found so far in China), particularly at bars. Spent hours looking for a decent bar and finally got totally scammed with a bullshit nearly 2000 RMB bill at "Club It" (I think that was the name) near West Lake (something like HuBin lu). Same bullshit with outright lying about the price of the room, bringing in empty beer bottles, bringing in food I didn't order and jacking up the price as reported elsewhere here (I'm a dumbass for not RTFF). Basically just a shitty experience with shitty Chinese people who have no shame and no decency at all (seems there are a lot in Shanghai and perhaps even more so in Hangzhou).

Overall I recommend Hangzhou as a "bring your own girl" place. Mongering there was a nightmare.

Clean Gene
09-16-07, 08:28
There is quite a bit of new construction and jumping new places in the Xiao Shan District (Airport District) about 20 minutes from HangZhou city center. The newly completed Holiday Inn is a good place to stay. English spoken by much of the staff. Good rooms. (I stayed on the 13th floor.) Good buffet breakfast--muesli c fresh fruit the way I like it. Good facilities. I used the swimming pool. They advertise expert massage (Thai, Tibetan, herbal etc.) but I usually go out for a foot massage. Every other day.

There are good places to get a foot massage within a 10 minute walk from the hotel. The streets are full of locals and are safe to walk at night (although I will take a taxi back after the foot massage).

A place I go is a large place called "Liangzi" which is a chain founded by a Hebei "foot doctor". One turns right coming out the front door of the Holiday Inn Hotel, walk to the corner and turn left. Turn left again at the next big blvd (perhaps a coupe of hundred meters from hotel), You walk a bit past the "Times Disco" which you can't miss (two stories or so of red and blue neon sign in both Chinese and English) and a few buildings further you will see "Liangzi Massage" , again a couple of stories high neon sign in red.

I go there for a good foot massage only. The basic is something like 50 RMB, but I get the 100 RMB one. (Friends say I'm stupid to waste the extra 50). They work the accupressure points of head, neck, shoulders, back, legs as well as the feet. They can feel which xuewei needs what. And they can work the tight xuewei hard, giving you the slappling and clappping to ease the after effects of the hard accupressure. They fold and stretch one's joints in all the many ways, and I am almost to the point fainting when they ask, "enough?" They also do a good job of the cupping on the feet (Alcohol in the small glass cup which they light with a small lighter, and placed on one's feet creates a partial vacuum. The cup is run over your feet until the partial vacuum is gone and the process is repeated.) My girl usually gives me two hours or so with mianfei fresh fruit, tea and water.

I won't tell you the name of my favorite because she is already much in demand. But I'll tell you a story about her another day.

CG

Long Stay
09-17-07, 10:03
As mentioned before, I live in the West part of town. My budget usually restricts my destinations. 138RMB will get me a decent massage with lots of ass play and a HJ. 150 - 200RMB will get a BBS girl if I want FS. I'm not fussed about the fancy decor as the end result is the same. I travel around on my bike which cuts down on cab fairs. I know little about the other parts of HZ as they're out of reach by bike. I'm always open to trying new places and often do. I know enough about the lake area to stay away from it for our hobby.

Let me know your needs and expectations and I'm sure I will know a place suitable.

LS

Clean Gene
09-17-07, 10:41
Let me tell you a story about my favorite girl at the Liangzi.

As I was walking in one day, I saw a pretty woman give me a tremendously happy smile. I thought she must be a mama who thought I was a "rich laowai". I asked for the herbal foot massage from a guy at the counter, and was led to a nice room. Mianfei fruit and drink was provided. And I was asked for something like, "Zhua Hao", which I didn't catch. So I said herbal foot massage. He asked again, and I waved him away.

In came the pretty woman carrying a bucket and gear, flashed me the nicest smile and said, "I saw you outside did you see me?" I nodded. She said, "I'm so happy."

"Did you recognize me" I asked.

"Even if the flesh were cut from your bones, I would recognize you."

I've seen so many pretty women looking something like her, that I couldn't place her. "It's been a long time." I said.

She: "twelve years." From the time and from her very slight accent, I said, "How are things back in Anhui?"

To make a long story shorter, she was a fresh farm girl who lived a few months at my place 12 years ago. Lovely. Fresh. Hardworking and intelligent. She came from a very poor villiage just north of the Guo He in northern Anhui Province. She was a fast learner and an altogether delightful girl in every way possible, but I had to get back to California to attend the birth of a new child with my "country girl wife", so I got her into a vocational nursing program. She liked it, and became a nurse. People respected her in her white uniform and thought she was a doctor. (Pay was only a few hundred a month, versus a few thousand she can earn as a masseuse--but with less respect.) She's been here for a couple of years now. Seven days a week. Working from morning to the early hours of the following morning. She says the days pass so fast that she's now old before her head could turn. I told her she was still so lovely. No longer a girl but still a lovely woman barely past her mid twenties. And she could work, study, learn a little English and there's a future for her, etc. etc.

She gave me a wonderful massage. Touched and blew her warm sweet breath on all the places she knew I liked.

I tipped her 100RMB. and took a taxi back to Holiday Inn. (Short taxi trip, 5RMB and I gave the driver 10.

CG

Clean Gene
09-18-07, 10:07
A couple of nights ago, I was returning to my room at the Xiao Shan Holiday Inn (see previous two posts) at perhaps 1:30 or 2:00 am. As I stepped out of the elevator on the 13th floor, there was a nicely dressed young woman in a red and gold outfit. The top was discreetly to the neck, but the skirt was short. Almost to the waterline. Good pair of legs. Pretty face. She smiled at me with direct eye contact, and stepped back a few steps toward the hallway. I said, "want to see my room?" She followed me in and I said, "I'll give you 100 to feel your twat." She had a freshly washed, well pounded twat. Not to my taste at the moment. I gave her the hundred and eased her out the door.

CG

Clean Gene
09-23-07, 11:49
Correction. Liangzi was founded by a Henan foot doctor.

Jughead27
09-24-07, 11:03
As mentioned before, I live in the West part of town. My budget usually restricts my destinations. 138RMB will get me a decent massage with lots of ass play and a HJ. 150 - 200RMB will get a BBS girl if I want FS. I'm not fussed about the fancy decor as the end result is the same. I travel around on my bike which cuts down on cab fairs. I know little about the other parts of HZ as they're out of reach by bike. I'm always open to trying new places and often do. I know enough about the lake area to stay away from it for our hobby.

Let me know your needs and expectations and I'm sure I will know a place suitable.

LSHi Longstay,

I'll be arriving soon to HZ and staying at the Shagri-La. The places you describe above (massage + HJ, possibly BJ) sound just what I'm looking for. Are any of them near the SL (not sure what is West and what isn't)?

Also, I've searched the thread and there were reports last year that the SL health club is completely straight have you heard any different?

I saw you mention the singing clubs around the stadium where you give the singer a flower! Do you have any more info on what that's all about?!

Thanks

JH

Long Stay
09-26-07, 11:56
Hi Longstay,

I'll be arriving soon to HZ and staying at the Shagri-La. The places you describe above (massage + HJ, possibly BJ) sound just what I'm looking for. Are any of them near the SL (not sure what is West and what isn't)?

Also, I've searched the thread and there were reports last year that the SL health club is completely straight have you heard any different?

I saw you mention the singing clubs around the stadium where you give the singer a flower! Do you have any more info on what that's all about?!

Thanks

JHJH.

The SL is a good taxi ride away from the west, its on the edge of the lake. I've never experienced the SL so cannot comment about whats on offer.

The singing clubs are indeed a strange deal, its best to walk around and poke your head in a few before you decide. The last time I went in one all the girls where dressed as cute sailors I think. I'm not entirely sure what happens, I think they usually have 10 - 20 girls working, they all take turns to sing and whilst doing so some rich Chinese guy will pay for a basket or baskets of flowers to be put on the stage (the more baskets the wealthier the guy) then when the girl has finished singing she will go and sit with the guy. I'm not sure what, if any action is available, I think it is down to the girl, they are more like entertainers than working girls, although I may be completely wrong about all this.

If its a Hotel massage you're after - the Dragon is not far from the SL and there is also the Radisson to consider.

LS

Art Reignz
10-05-07, 21:08
Hi,

I see this thread is very quiet :(

I was told that the girls in Hangzhou are among the most beautiful ones in China. I read the thread about the ktvs so I definitely don't want to risk it there. Can you give me a place where I can have some GFE action?

Im new here but ill be staying in hangzhou for a long time.

Art Reignz
10-05-07, 21:25
Is there a place where in Hangzhou where I can get some GFE?

I'm new here and speak about 0 Mandarin.

Dondar
10-06-07, 16:45
Is there a place where in Hangzhou where I can get some GFE?

I'm new here and speak about 0 Mandarin.As I understand from RTFF, no GFE is offerd in Hangzhou.

I'll be getting there this comming weekend and I'm intrested too, in getting GFE there.

Maybe we should try get more info "local foreigners" at this forum:

http://www.hangzhouexpat.com/

If you have any success, please report it here, and let me know.

Good luck!

Don

Brannoch
10-06-07, 19:52
Visitin Hangzhou on Saturday. Main goal is touristic, but I intended to go to a sauna after dinner.

At around 7. 30 pm I look at the "Music Fountain" on West Lake. Nice. It is close to the Hyatt, and after the show, when I walk away, I am accosted by a young mamasan that proposes "massagee? ". I shake no. She insits "drink beer? " I again refuse, and walks on. She follows me, insists, but I vehemently refuse. The she says: "Lady come to your hotel room. " I am more interested. Going to my room feels safe. What can they do in my room? They can deliver poor service, but they have no pressure on me to overcharge. And if I clearly specify what I want, what can go wrong? I ask mamasan for the cost. She ask 800 for the night. We settle for 600. Ok, too much, but if the service is right it is fine with me. I tell her I will think about it, and come back if I am interested.

I do think about it after dinner and decide for the mamasan. Main reason is that she speaks some English. I speak no Mandarin. And I can clearly explain her what I expect, and agree on the terms of the deal. I do not know how well the communication will be at a sauna. The mamasan it will be.

I go back to her. I tell her I want three hours. I do not want the girl to stay overnight. I also specify some other things. It is all ok. She phones for her girl, and tells me she speaks some english, which is a definite advantage. The girl arrives. Mediocre looking, but ok, the service is more important to me than the looks. I agree.

The mamasan ask for her 600RMB. I refuse and tell her I will pay the girl when she leaves. Long discussion. In the end the mamasan agrees. I leave with the girl, and go with a taxi to my hotel. Nice ride, holding hands, feeling legs, and so on.

When we are in my room, the girl asks for the money. I tell her that I will pay when she leaves. Phone to mamasan. Long discussion. Admittedly, I am not sure that my statement that I would only pay after the deed registered, so propose to pay half in advance, and half when the girl leaves. More discussion. In the end the mamasan agrees. I pay 300.

I suggest a shower. The girl says "First massage, then shower. " OK, fine with me. I get a mediocre back massage. OK, I did not expect a great massage.

Then we start on the front. The girl states "sexy massage, more money". I am stunned. I thought I had been very clear with the mamasan what I wanted. I refuse. She insists. I ask how much she wants. Maybe it is the irritating Chinese habit to ask for more after the deal is concluded, and she wants a 100 RMB tip outside the knowledge of the mamasan. If would probably have accepted a 100 RMB tip. She asks for 500 RMB. I make the sign you are mad, and tell her to call the mamasan. Mamasan confirms sexy massage is extra. I tell her I am not crazy.

I get out of bed, put on my clothes, and ask the girl to leave. She wants the second 300. I refuse. Endless discussions. Phone to mamasan, who threatens me with "boy friend will come" I am not so impressed, what will boy friend do in a big hotel. More discussions and yelling. I must give them some incentive to go away. I propose to pay 100 if she leaves in 5 min. More phone calls, and angry discussions. Strangely enough, the girl then starts to be friendly again. In the end they agree, and the girl leaves.

Damage 400RMB for a mediocre massage. More importantly, a lot of time wasted, and I am no longer in the mood to go to a saune with FS. Evening wasted. Well go to the massage in the hotel, which, as far as I know, is purely legit. A legit massage is fine with me. I get an excellent massage. The girl is not stunning, but friendly. She proposes an overpriced HJ. Being frustrated, I accept, and, it was a well done. Overpriced, but I am pleased I took it.

To summarize.

- I thought I was safe against overcharging because I would be in my hotelroom. To a large extent I was. But not totally. In the end I paid to get the girl out of my roon. The damage is not only the money, but also the wasted evening.

- Brother mongers. Do not use the touts, or the mamasans, around the Hyatt. Not te be trusted.

- When mamasan discusseds more about the payment terms than about the service she will deliver is probably a strong indicator they do not intend to deliver the agreed service. Walk away.

Wkr

Brannoch

Long Stay
10-09-07, 12:13
I do think about it after dinner and decide for the mamasan.Why, why, why

Long Stay
10-09-07, 12:45
As I understand from RTFF, no GFE is offerd in Hangzhou.

I'll be getting there this comming weekend and I'm intrested too, in getting GFE there.

Maybe we should try get more info "local foreigners" at this forum:

http://www.hangzhouexpat.com/

If you have any success, please report it here, and let me know.

Good luck!

DonAfter living in Hangzhou for some time now, I'm starting to get a little protective of this little town. I see people coming and saying "in Hangzhou you get ripped off", "in Hangzhou there is no GFE", and so on.

I have had GFE in Hangzhou and Shanghai but I've also had the opposite in both cities too. I don't believe you can walk into any place and be guaranteed a GFE. You have to work a little for it. The best way to get a GFE in HZ is to get a GF, this my friends is relatively easy if you know the score.

If you want a decent massage go to a legit place where the girls are trained to give a professional service. From my experience the girls who offer sex after a massage are not going to train in the art of massage, they just rub and poke you for a while.

Don't be tempted by the touts like Brannoch was, even after being warned and even after he went away and thought about it he still went to find a tout - unbelievable...

As stated many times, let me know what you want and I will happily give you an address of a place that can service you. As a guide...

Good Massage + HJ (with naked girl) = Dragon Hotel 550rmb or Radisson 750rmb
OK Massage + FS = A little place on Wen Er Xi Lu 400rmb
BBS all over town but not near large hotels = 150-200rmb

For genuine GFE = Joys bar between 9-11pm if unsuccessful head to SOS, G-Plus or Babyface cut off time is 12-1am after that all the up-for-it girls have been taken.
Learn to play the dice game and order one bottle of Chivas 300rmb mixed with iced green tea. As long as you are not Jabba the Hut just ask a(some) girl(s) to join you.

This advice is offered free but if anyone needs there hands holding or their ass wiping again I charge 1000rmb an hour ;-)

LS

Member #1344
10-09-07, 15:36
Hi,

I see this thread is very quiet :(

I was told that the girls in Hangzhou are among the most beautiful ones in China. I read the thread about the ktvs so I definitely don't want to risk it there. Can you give me a place where I can have some GFE action?

Im new here but ill be staying in hangzhou for a long time.

If you are going to be in HZ for a while, you could try joining chinesefriendfinder or one of the other websites to look for a GF that way. Of course, then it would be a true GFE.

Brannoch
10-09-07, 17:15
Why, why, whyGood judgment comes from experience.
Experience comes from poor judgment.

Brannoch

Brannoch
10-09-07, 17:30
A tout? A charming young mamasan!

It is good to commendable to defend one's home town.

I was under the impression that it was useful to report in detail what has happened to me. If it is a waste of time because one (should) already know all I have written, I apologize.


After living in Hangzhou for some time now, I'm starting to get a little protective of this little town. I see people coming and saying "in Hangzhou you get ripped off", "in Hangzhou there is no GFE", and so on.

I have had GFE in Hangzhou and Shanghai but I've also had the opposite in both cities too. I don't believe you can walk into any place and be guaranteed a GFE. You have to work a little for it. The best way to get a GFE in HZ is to get a GF, this my friends is relatively easy if you know the score.

If you want a decent massage go to a legit place where the girls are trained to give a professional service. From my experience the girls who offer sex after a massage are not going to train in the art of massage, they just rub and poke you for a while.

Don't be tempted by the touts like Brannoch was, even after being warned and even after he went away and thought about it he still went to find a tout - unbelievable...

As stated many times, let me know what you want and I will happily give you an address of a place that can service you. As a guide...

Good Massage + HJ (with naked girl) = Dragon Hotel 550rmb or Radisson 750rmb
OK Massage + FS = A little place on Wen Er Xi Lu 400rmb
BBS all over town but not near large hotels = 150-200rmb

For genuine GFE = Joys bar between 9-11pm if unsuccessful head to SOS, G-Plus or Babyface cut off time is 12-1am after that all the up-for-it girls have been taken.
Learn to play the dice game and order one bottle of Chivas 300rmb mixed with iced green tea. As long as you are not Jabba the Hut just ask a(some) girl(s) to join you.

This advice is offered free but if anyone needs there hands holding or their ass wiping again I charge 1000rmb an hour ;-)

LS

Shazzam
10-12-07, 07:12
Hi guys,

Not sure if I'm in the right local, but i'll be heading to Zhejiang soon and staying at the Yongkan Hotel. Apparently a 4-5 star. Has anyone been here. It is a town about 2 hrs from hangzhou?

Dondar
10-13-07, 14:48
Hi all,

I was approched by guys who gave me cards with this on:

"Miss Come to Hotel, serve consist of massage, Make love.

Tell me your hotel room number, if want, please use you hotel number coll me. Ok? "

On the card are pictures of yung "10" gals. The card is written in both Chinese and enlish so I think it is offered for locals too.

The telephone number is: 13989815699

I called this number, a guy answerd in verry bad broken english explained: "1000 RMB" of course I said it is far to high price so we got to 500.

Since it was too easy for me to get this offer I wonder if it is genuine.

I did not exept it, yet.

Is it safe bet or just another scam?

Ben Ghazi
10-16-07, 15:55
I've seen reports that Hangzhou was undersexed and difficult, so it was with some hesitation I decided to try the massage service in my hotel. Wuyang. Anyway. I went the the 3rd floor and of course the 2 girls and a guy present at the counter spoke no english, which is just a few words short of my Chinese vocabulary. On the wall 4 small official posters educated customers about the importance of using condoms. Hmm. And a menu of sorts offering Thai style massage and "Thalthy" massage. Only 100 RMB for 45 minutes. I thought that this can't be a bad deal even if it is a legit massage. I indicated that "Thalthy" was what I wanted, and they managed to communicate that it would be 200 RMB. Finally I understood that they felt that someone would be entitled to 100 RMB tip. I just said OK, and was shown to a very small changing area, where I supervised by an annoying younger guy changed to a pajamas. I was then led to a typical massage room with a bed and reclining chair. After a short wait a beautiful girl came in, high heels, tiny neglige and high heels. She was slim and had a really nice rack. 9/9 IMHO. She sat down and put my arm over her thighs and "massaged" my arm a little. I soon enough started to feel her up, and on her extremely smooth skin and with such well shaped thighs it was not unpleasant. She suggested a mouthmassage priced at 600 RMB, which I smiled at and said that it was "tai gui le" and I would prefer sex. She kept saying "why", and I said "because I like it". In the end I offered 800 RMB, and she said yes, left the room for 3 minutes and came back with her handbag, water, napkins, condom etc. She started a BJ up, covered with a small plastic bag thing I have never seen before. It was oh so good, unfortunately so much that when she applied the condom I came. Damn. I immediately turned her over and penetrated to get some action while I had some erection left. Did not last long however, and I am not worth a dime until much later, so we spent 30 minutes talking a bit and cuddling. She has a really pretty babydoll face, so I enjoyed this, and when I had to leave to meet my colleagues she jumped up and clung to me. I had to force her off I have no idea why this was important to her. Anyway, on the way back to the changing area she said that it was 600 not 800 RMB. Funny enough. The 100 RMB was then designated two guys in the changing room who felt they earned this, and since I was in a good mood I didnt care. The doll is #3, and she said her name is Li, apparently from Lishui in Zhejiang. Recommendable, not least because of this great body. Very slim but not bony.

Ben Ghazi
10-16-07, 16:33
After my experience in Hangzhou, I thought I would check out the hotel in Wuxi, where we drove today. We're in Jinlun, and I had 1 hour before meeting my colleagues for dinner. I went to the 6th floor, and looked for the advertised sauna. In an otherwise empty hairdressing salon, I saw a petite girl in B/W stripe dress-miniskirt on a chair looking into a television that was on a pedestal. Not sure why she chose to stand there, but I paused outside and looked for a minute or two, because she had really well proportioned legs, and a nice behind below a slim waist. I went to the sauna place and asked a hapless fellow in the bar for a menu, which he did not understand and he then went out and brought back the girl I had seen. Nice. She said 128 RMB for 45 minutes, which sounded OK for a regular massage, and clearly this was not the only thing that would be offered. I was shown to the massage room and she asked me to undress, which I did, but kept my underpants on since I sensed it would be inappropriate to remove them. Sure enough, she was one of those who prefer to wrap the whole thing in real massage, maybe to keep her self image as a masseuse rather than simply a *****. She did the same routine I had tried in Hangzhou massaging one arm so that my hand was continually on her upper thigh. I was not as aroused so I took it very easy and let her massage away, which she did with lots of soft long strokes. Really nice. Sure enough my midle section got some attention, and since I knew I did not have a lot of time I asked if she also did in room massage. She said yes, and asked for 1000 RMB, which I got down to 800. Way too much I'm sure, but I don't live here. We agreed she would come to my room 9pm and stay for an hour. She gave me a short BBBJ - to confirm the deal I suppose. I went to meet my colleagues and we had a superb Wuxi style dinner - delicate mushroom soup, chicken in fragrant spicy oil, super tender pork in thick red swwet sauce. Wonderful, and thinking about what would happen later it was perfect. We went to a mall and I let the ladies do their shopping alone, and after a quick tour of the mall I went back and showered. She called and asked if I wanted the massage now, and I said OK since I was back. She came after 10 minutes, and I was really looking forward to the sex when I saw her. Her shoes were very high sandals, Cleopatra style, and her feet were small and nice. She was not a stunner face-wise, but definitely 7-8. Body was 9. Just what I like, not more than 155 without shoes, very slim, but nice breasts. B cup I would say. Her skin was smooth all over and her legs just so deliciously shaped. Kept touching. She used the phone, and I distinctly heard her say leo bei so I could have got it for 600 without problems. Now she would score the remaining 200 for herself, which I find very sympathetic. Not much of a fan of the pimps. She wanted to massage me first, which I agreed to, because there are worse things in life than having a 50 kg beautiful girl climb around on your back with nice legs and ass all over me, touching and pressing. She had a good sense of humour, and in general a bubbly personality. She gave me a BBBJ again, and then applied the condom. We did a bit of reveres cowgirl, but I had to stop her because it was so good. The missionara, and I put her on the side and did her, and then from behind. Just love the sight of a slim waist and a rounded butt. I then asked her to put on her kinky shoes, and I had her stand in the window so I could take her from behind. Naturally this made me come in minutes. I expected her to say bye-bye, but she wanted to complete the massage. Had I not gone limp I think I could have had another go, she definitely encouraged it. I had to settle for the relaxing cuddling-massage, which was great too. We laughed a lot, and it was generally very pleasant and relaxed. Not quite GFE, but a very nice professional attitude. She is called Xiaohua, and I would guess she is mid twenties. She claimed to be 34, which obviously was not true, but I think she was teasing me. During sex she had the funny habit of repeating what I said AH/AH ohmygod/ohmygod etc. Quite funny.

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Member #1344
10-28-07, 13:32
I was walking along WenHui Lu the other night around the Moganshan Lu area. I noticed that for the two blocks east of Moganshan Lu, there were 8-10 BBSes. Some of the girls inside were fairly ugly, but there were a few cute ones. I didn't go inside since I had a freebie at my apartment the day before, but if someone else checks out the BBSes, let me know how they are.

Member #2041
10-28-07, 16:18
I was walking along WenHui Lu the other night around the Moganshan Lu area. I noticed that for the two blocks east of Moganshan Lu, there were 8-10 BBSes. Some of the girls inside were fairly ugly, but there were a few cute ones. I didn't go inside since I had a freebie at my apartment the day before, but if someone else checks out the BBSes, let me know how they are.

I was in one of these (can't possibly remember which one) when I visited Hangzhou in April. Managed to find an absolutely beautiful very young spinner - claimed to be 20, and couldn't have been any older than that - who offered a HJ for 200, or FS Boom Boom for 400. Went for the FS, and very much enjoyed myself.

I certainly would have returned, but I was only in Hangzhou for a single night.

Long Stay
10-29-07, 08:52
I was in one of these (can't possibly remember which one) when I visited Hangzhou in April. Managed to find an absolutely beautiful very young spinner - claimed to be 20, and couldn't have been any older than that - who offered a HJ for 200, or FS Boom Boom for 400. Went for the FS, and very much enjoyed myself.

I certainly would have returned, but I was only in Hangzhou for a single night.


Thanks for overpaying!

Hangzhou BBS going rate: 150 standard - 200 if the girl is very cute, they usually start at 300 but soon accept 150 when you get up to leave.

Long Stay
10-29-07, 09:29
After a few months of redecoration, the "Zheijiang Haoyuan & Yuzhitang Leisure Bathing Co.,Ltd" (love the catchy new name) has re-opened! No. 606 Wensan Xi Lu.

The place is now sporting a brand new Japanese theme. Girls in Komonos greet you at the door and there are more Tatami mats than you can shake your chopsticks at.

Usual locker/shower drill, including a young guy drying you off.

In the room No.82 entered and I almost lost it there and then. Dressed as a Japanese school girl, white blouse, pleated mini skirt and a Japanese style fringe.

I went for the 90min Japanese Style Massage, 218rmb. What followed was possibly the longest, most erotic HJ I have ever had. It started with her gently kissing my ears and using her finger nails on my back and butt. After she did the same to my legs and feet No.82 placed a pillow under my stomach and sat between my legs with my legs on top of her knees. A very slow butt, balls and cock massage followed with her reaching underneath to get to the point!

Turning me over she again was kissing my ears and breathing heavily inside them. More kissing followed, this time my nipples, while she was doing this she was rubbing herself all over my cock, making soft moaning noises. After a while of this she moved into the same position as before, my legs on top of hers. She used plenty of oil with long strokes, she seemed to be getting aroused herself which I thought might be fake but turned out to be genuine upon further inspection. She was resisting my touch just enough to play the game very well but finally gave in and let me explore. This sent my over the top.

After the clean-up she was happy to find out I was very satisfied and we spent the final 15 mins chatting while she gave me more massage.

All in all a 1st class experience - for a very erotic HJ with no expectations of FS this place and service cannot be beaten.

Environment: 8/10
Service: 8/10
Girls Outfit 10/10
Girls Attitude 10/10
Face 8/10
Body (Dressed) 8/10
Value 10/10 (Massage + Tip + Shower = 296rmb)

Open 24hrs, its well worth the cab ride.

LS

Eric Zhang
11-13-07, 15:07
Hi,

I am a new member of this forum. I gooled this website and registered without any delay.

I am a Hangzhou citizen.

People who want to know more about Hangzhou sex can contact me.

Gerd Holler
11-14-07, 16:07
.... can contact me.
Can not, unfortunately!


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So pls you contact me, I'll stay in town until Saturday

-GH-

Bobeve
11-17-07, 20:43
I will be in HZ for 3 nights soon staying in the New Century Hotel Xiao Shan on 77 Renmin Road. I would like to try your gold mine. Is it a long or short taxi ride? If it is too far away, do you have any other suggestions near this hotel?

Thanks

Long Stay
11-18-07, 05:23
I will be in HZ for 3 nights soon staying in the New Century Hotel Xiao Shan on 77 Renmin Road. I would like to try your gold mine. Is it a long or short taxi ride? If it is too far away, do you have any other suggestions near this hotel?

Thanks

Hey Bobeve,

Sorry, Xiao Shan is on the other side of the river to Hangzhou, not really my area of expertise! I guess a cab ride would take about 30mins or more to the gold mine (depending on the time of day). I do remember reading a few posts about Xiao Shan on this thread though.

LS

Member #2041
11-19-07, 02:32
Thanks for overpaying!

Hangzhou BBS going rate: 150 standard - 200 if the girl is very cute, they usually start at 300 but soon accept 150 when you get up to leave.

You are welcome. Irrespective of what the going rate was, this particular hottie would not take less, and I certainly thought she was worth twice as much as the next best choice that I saw. I did get up to leave - in fact, I was out the door, and went to another place where the selection was not as good. So I went back and gave her the 400. She was worth the premium - especially without requiring any latex to get in the way of good feelings.

To me, it was worth it. I don't frankly care if it was not worth it for YOU.

Bobeve
11-19-07, 02:33
I will make the best of my location and file a report.

Shazzam
11-20-07, 10:21
Hi guys,

Just stayed at Yongkan Hotel about 2 hrs drive from Hangzhou. They have a big building behind the hotel offering all sorts of massages, KTV, gym, etc.

Head into the ground floor VIP room where a few of the staff speak okj English. Heaps of 18-22 year olds with killer faces and bodies. Stayed with one cutey for 2 hours and she did DATY, ass rimming, BBBJ, 69'er, covered sex in many positions and even let me finger her ass. Really friendly and costed only 600rmb.

Poisson1
12-04-07, 21:01
After reading the posts here, I decide to follow Long Stay's recommendation and went to the mentioned massage center located at 606 Wen San Xi lu. It was about 2am and could not find the sleep.

A taxi ride from Sunny Hotel to the location costs 28RMB. I have no basic knowledge of Chinese and managed to express my wish for the "japanese massage" thanks to flyers written in english and Chinese. There are several other options like european massage for 198Yuan, Thai Massage for 188 Yuan.

The personel does not speak english so be prepared.

Anyway, after a nice shower and drying by the guy, I was brought to a room and ordered a coca-cola (was not billed at the end). Then came in a wonderful girl dressed exactly like mentioned in SL's description. She knows very very basic english. The whole session followed exactly the same procedure as described by LS. Although I did not go into a deeper inspection of the lady. She has a very beautiful smile, face and very white and soft skin.

She told me that her number is #89 and that she's 23.

After 80min, I felt much better than when entering this great location.

I paid 296 Yuan and left happily back to the hotel where I found my restfull sleep at 4. 00am. I would definitely say it was one of my erotic highlights.

Thanks for the recommendation

Poisson

Fboyinlittlecoat
12-06-07, 23:28
I am new to the forum.. but figured I would post.

I have been to China a few times, and traveled a decent amount and with it have had my mongering tales.

By far the best experience on the mainland is the Dong Cheng Intl in Dongguan.. an oasis of fun..700-900 RMB..

And off mainland.. Macau has some amazing amenities. I just jumped in a cab and the driver took me to a place where the girls are... It was the scene out of rush hour. Thai girls, russians, vietnamese.... Not the most classy of places.. but great service for around 800-900 RMB.

But our office is in Hangzhou, and have spent many a drunken night scowling the many BBS or Saunas.

For Lo Wei with a decent budget, where its clean and good service I have to recommend the WTC Hotel Sauna first 800-900 RMB, and the Hangzhou Tower Second so far.. WTC FS is pretty good..

I and my buddy just checked out the Japanese Bath house on 606 Wen San Lu.. Great Value, and also if you spend 800 RMB you can get a VIP card with some better amenities.. since half the chineese I know is from my drunken mongering.. its hard for me to negotiate on pricing.. but most people can still talk people down to get a good deal.

For 300 RMB at 606, youll get a great massage and HJ, and you can easily pay for upgrades.. and its a good value.

I try to stay away from the BBS.. bad experiences..

I have to agree with Long Stay.. 606 is a great value..

But IMHO if you want FS go to the WTC.

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Hongzhou Fromca
12-07-07, 18:38
Just a quick update on Overseas Chinease Hotel. After six months of on and off visits, the place has definitely turned more professional. One or two ladies have ask for money (must be kept secret) but "xue" (don't know number) does BBBJ/CIM plus FS and is happier to do this I suspect with a tip on the offer. The girls started offering an initial 'dance' but also (fortunatly) offer to turn off the 'music' once they are done. I am v happy with the flexibility w/r/t not requiring plasitic covering at every turn. But maybe this is just one or two girls. And I learned long ago to byo condom anywhere in China, and that is still recommended for multiple reasons. The management is the same and friendly and responsive. Fewer of the small, young hunan and sichuan girls and more sligtly older, "pro" types. I remember more seriousness about the pseudo-messages, giggling and such, and while the technique from xue was a new highlight for me, overall I have missed the giddy young girls that would with some encouragement be 'naughty'.

Thanks so much for the updated reports. Will try WTC and 606. Was stuck in a rut long time but have moved to a more central location so more exploration of this fine city will begin soon! Stay tuned.

My data points are few and far between. Anyone with different experience please let me know. And of course if "zhang wen" ever shows up again I will run off and marry her.

Didipod
12-08-07, 05:45
Just a quick update on Overseas Chinease Hotel. After six months of on and off visits, the place has definitely turned more professional. One or two ladies have ask for money (must be kept secret) but "xue" (don't know number) does BBBJ/CIM plus FS and is happier to do this I suspect with a tip on the offer. The girls started offering an initial 'dance' but also (fortunatly) offer to turn off the 'music' once they are done. I am v happy with the flexibility w/r/t not requiring plasitic covering at every turn. But maybe this is just one or two girls. And I learned long ago to byo condom anywhere in China, and that is still recommended for multiple reasons. The management is the same and friendly and responsive. Fewer of the small, young hunan and sichuan girls and more sligtly older, "pro" types. I remember more seriousness about the pseudo-messages, giggling and such, and while the technique from xue was a new highlight for me, overall I have missed the giddy young girls that would with some encouragement be 'naughty'.

Thanks so much for the updated reports. Will try WTC and 606. Was stuck in a rut long time but have moved to a more central location so more exploration of this fine city will begin soon! Stay tuned.

My data points are few and far between. Anyone with different experience please let me know. And of course if "zhang wen" ever shows up again I will run off and marry her.Just want to confirm something here. I haven't been to Hangzhou in nearly a year, will be heading back again in a few weeks. When I last stayed at WTC, the sauna downstairs went through remodeling, the play went from FS to HJ only, for 800 yuan, which was a big rip off. You are saying they have gone back to FS? This wasn't the case as recent as March of this year. Overseas Chinese Hotel also only did HJ, you are also indicating they will do FS. I suppose competition is heating up. I know the Dragon Hotel always offered FS.

Jammin 2
12-08-07, 22:20
Near Zhejiang U. there is a nice hotel-Lily Hotel. Was adventerous and went to the sauna. Mamasan asked if I had been to place before, I said no, but said that I had been to similar places before all over. I used a little Mandarin which seemed to relieve her. Otherwise I suggest you ask for special massage. She told me 550RMB for everything. She brough a very friendly girl who grabbed my dick upon entering room. She was 22yo and strainge looking, but in a good way. She told be she was aboriginal, but don't know exactly what it meant. I got a thorough cat bath with hot water and then a great AR with some penetration. She followed this by a BBBJ. Put on the cap and went at it for 20 min is several positions. Cuddled afterwards as she was playfully calling me "lao gong". Great experience. Everything I wanted for a no negotion price. Hangzhou isn't as dry as I was worried about. However, the near-by bars weren't any good.

Clueso
12-17-07, 22:27
Hi,

I am a new member of this forum. I gooled this website and registered without any delay.

I am a Hangzhou citizen.

People who want to know more about Hangzhou sex can contact me.Hi Eric,

I hope to visit HZ for a few days in January and would appreciate any advice you can give so I use my time properly.

Thanks

Mike

Long Stay
12-24-07, 09:41
I visited this place last night after reading about it on a local web site (3F, 388 Tianmushan Road - 0571 85021188-2198). I went there as the web site stated it had good top to toe massage but no sex, and that was all I wanted.

However...

Upon arrival I selected the 188rmb full body massage, I specifically asked if the shower was included and told there was no charge for the shower. So, locker routine and shower (in 2-3 star decor). Was taken to the lounge area but as it was past midnight I said "no thanks" and elected to go straight for the massage. The guy said no massage just sex. I was a bit disappointed as I didn't really want just sex so I asked for massage too, he said sure.

So I get to the room, then shown an average looking girl, not really my type, anyway I don't know why I didn't change her but maybe because she had a certain kind of look on her face, I said okay.

By this point I was really tired and decided to let the girl do all the work, no point in going over all the details but I got lots of body licking BBBJ, AR, FS and AS. After the deed the girl asked if I could help her cum, after a bit of playing around (including my fingers in her ass), I was ready for more, she rode me CB style till she came, then I flipped her over and finished with more AS.

The total charge was 460rmb, a bit pricey but the girl made up for it in her willingness to keep going for over an hour.

I've decided not to fully recommend anymore places until I've visited them at least 2-3 times. This is because at least 50% of the service you get is down to the girl. Sure I can comment on the facilities, the price, the front desk and even possibly the routine inside the room, but every girl is different, they all do that little different thing no matter how much training they've had.

LS

Hungry Eyes
12-24-07, 16:41
I come to hangzhou for 1 night this Sunday.

Any of you guyswant to get together? Maybe hop to wen san xi lu 606 that is so highly recomended here or to a different place as you like

My first time to hangzhou

Let me know- (PM me)

Hungry Eyes

Manfest
01-09-08, 20:50
Fengtan Lu:
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Wen San Xi Lu:
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Gucui Lu:
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I Usually get asked for 300RMB but I never give more than 200. Had a couple of DF experiences but again it all comes down to the girl and her mood on the day.

Happy Hunting, LS

LS,
Had to go back several months, but found your great detailed report. Do you or any of the other locals know if these areas are still good? Other recommendations? Pricing still the same (150-200)? And finally, how do you ask for these locations to a cab driver. Thanks for the info. I'm traveling with associates, but if we can do this covertly, I'd be happy to buy some drinks if anyone is interested in hunting together Sunday/Monday. Cheers
-M

Long Stay
01-10-08, 03:03
Hangzhou seems to be cleaning up its act more and more. The really visible places are disappearing, so you have to do a little more digging.

Wen San Xi Lu: The places mentioned before are all dead, however go further West past Gudun Lu intersection and there are about 4-5 places, one of them has the most perfect girl in Hangzhou...

Fengtan Lu: Not as many as before but still a few left. If you go up Fengtan from Tianmushan Road and take the first left into a residential area there are plenty of new ones, although I've not tried them yet.

Gucui Lu: Don't remember any on here...

Wen Er Xi Lu: Saw a place on here the other night looked promising, I don't remember exactly where it was as I was in a taxi more info on this will follow... If you go towards the YUE cinema there are about 5 massage places before you get there, one of the first ones has "Bath House" in neon lights, 400 a pop and you get a shower and choice of girl. Its a bit cleaner and safer than the BBS's.

Also try the now famous 606 Japanese place on Wen San Xi Lu. No sex but its a great experience.

There are more places on offer but I would need to take a trip to make a note of the road names.

LS

Eric Zhang
01-11-08, 14:30
Hi Eric,

I hope to visit HZ for a few days in January and would appreciate any advice you can give so I use my time properly.

Thanks

MikeSorry, Mike. This is my first visit to the forum in the past month due to something.

When will you come to Hangzhou or already left?