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Member #1216
09-22-03, 06:47
Finally able to post reports. Here is my input for Changsha, Hunan province.

My experience here are limited to the downtown area, the Dolton hotel, and Huatian hotel. they are both 5 stars, so price is at the high end. yet comparing to other big city, the price is cheaper. The sauna in both hotels are not bad at all. FS is around RMB 800 to 850 everything included: massage, ice-fire, bj, ML. The nice part is the BG all licks a-hole as part of the routine. So the whole package is pretty much everything I wanted. The quality of girls are 7-8 in looks, 7-8 in body, 9-10 in skill. In other words, the quality is consistent and the good skills won't disappoint you! But, there is always a trade off, once I declined a girl the manager brought in first time, in hopes of getting a better looking one, he did indeed brought in a better looking one and I took her without hesitation, but the skill turns out to be very bad: how can a wood fish lick ass and do ice fire?

I also had 2 girl at the same time for RMB400 extra twice. very educational indeed. seems they always go in pairs of one very slutty and the other kind of reserved. The second time I had two north east girls, one is about 165cm, but very slim and good body, she was very shy, but the other girl was doing all kinds of dirty talks.

I didn't venture out to many other places, the night club at Dolton has KTV girls, the asking price is RMB1k. The quality of girls varies. It turned out I had got only one girl there. She's 175cm, and really got a model quality body. the thing with working girls is they generally have very low self regards, who can blame them, anyone would if getting banged by horny strangers day to day. I picked her and we really enjoyed each other. So I took her the rest of my 2 month or so stay there. Left just about the right time: she started to show strong interest in my private life...

to sum it all, I won't care to give any numbers or contacts. It's easy to get what you want in Changsha. At least in upper end hotel, it's very safe and open.

Tangent
12-29-03, 04:49
Went to Changsha for a few days with a gf and stayed at the Huatian Hotel. She had made arrangements with a travel agent for 540rmb/night, but the hotel people at the airport gave a better quote at 500rmb/night, including breakfast. I recommend the hotel very much, but you should make sure that your room is in the VIP tower--which are 150rmb more than the other rooms, but worth it since the rooms are very well-designed in the VIP tower.

Apparently barbershops in Changsha do not give massages, but I did go to a massage place (not a sauna) across a big street from the Huatian. 35rmb for 45 minutes. Immediately as I got in the gal asked if I wanted an oil massage (tway-yoe) which would be 100rmb for the 45 minutes. She said it included a handjob. I had to decline because of my correctly suspicious gf. I asked about other things though, and she said that the gals in her place can give in-hotel massage for 200rmb which would free them up for the entire night. For sex, the expected tip she said would be 600rmb. Since I could not partake I did not negotiate, but I am sure the price would go lower.

Thirty Mins
01-06-04, 19:09
Hi Tangent,

How was the quality across the street from the Huatian?

Tangent
01-09-04, 09:41
Thirty Mins

Seemed good enough but nothing great. Did not get a good look at the other women in the place.

Yellow Fever #2
02-13-04, 03:25
I stayed at the Furama CHangsha. A four star place that cost RMB360. Across the street were 2 BBS with very very bright red lights (new bulbs?).

The sauna in the hotel is free for guests but the massage in the sauna is not included for free.

I did not investigate further as I aws with my gf.

Changsha seeems to have a lot on offer and is probably a training ground for the girls that come to Shenzhen (alot of Hunan girls here).

My gf says that Hunan and Hubei have similar spicy food but different culture. Hunan girls are the 'bad' girls.

The locals in Changsha told us that the girls in Changde is especially beautiful although I did not have that impression on my short visit there. Changde is 170km west from Changsha and has a lot of nature parks.

Mock A Bee
11-16-04, 08:22
I just came back from Changsha and stayed at the Furama. It used to be HK owned, and is now Chinese owned. The sauana is free for guests but extra services such as xiao jies are extra.

I went down to check it out and the first thing the guy at the sauna reception does is try to upsell you and take you to the individual rooms set up for action.

I took a look to humor the guy and out of curiosity see what the rooms looked like. The guy tried to sell high and took me to a VIP room first, which costs 900rmb. No thanks, I passed.

After this charade, I went to see the Sauna however, prominently posted in front of the door to the sauan was a color sign, specifically made for the place that said "Employees of the sauan have been know to have Venereal Disease".

That was a bit much for me. Ok, I know technically pretty much all xiao jies have the opportunity to give you some kind of VD, but when they put a sign out front prominently displayed in color, it basically told me to pass.

I went to get a legitimate massage just across the way (RMB148 for 90 minutes) and convinced the very hessitant massage girl to give me a HJ. After the session I tipped her RMB50. She was new to giving HJ's, but she was ok at massage.

Anyway, I went back to the sauna to shower and check out the facilities. I asked the towel guy how much xiao jies were and services start at RMB200 and go up from there.

They have a hot tub, dry sauna and steam sauna. However they only fire up the heat when a customer comes. Kind of lame because you have to wait for the heat to get going for any of this stuff.

I don't really think I will ever go back to Changsha, but if you are not disturbed by the VD warning sign, it is probably worth checking out.

I never did see the xiao jies but I am sure they have some decent ones there.

Good luck, MAB

Reptile
01-06-05, 15:32
Greetings all,

I have been in Changsha now for 4 months, apart from an initial foray into the BBS scene when I first arrived (I went to the BBS on Bayi lu as per “yellow fever #2’s” report [thanks!], 200RMB for FS), I have been concentrating on freebies.

Lately I have started checking out the BBS scene (no luck with the freebies yet), most of the shops around Changsha with the pink light / girls siting around, are massage only. I am not interested in massage and am looking for FS (zuo4 ai4 / quan2 tao4) only. Tonight I found a group of BBS on Chengnan Zhonglu between Shaoshan lu and Furong lu, which offer FS for 150RMB ST (in upstairs cubicles), I could not get the “local” price of 130RMB initially offered.

To get there from the train station, take a taxi along Wuyi lu, turn left onto Shaoshan Lu (after about 1 km) and continue down Shaoshan lu for around 1.5km and turn right onto Chengnan Zhonglu. Continue down Chengnan Zhonglu (the road below the elevated road), you will pass a few massage places on your right almost immediately (I don’t know if they offer FS), continue on till the next intersection. From here till Furong Lu, there are about 7 BBS shops on the right hand side of Chengnan Zhonglu, each shop has around 8 to 10 girls.

I went to the 4th one along, it was pretty clean with an air-conditioned room above the shop comprising of about 6 cubicles. Most of the girls in this BBS were 7-9 in looks, I took a 20 year old Changsha girl, she was pretty inexperienced (15 days on the job she said) but had a very nice body / attitude. Nice tight pussy but would not allow DATY, after initial tightness she soon moistened up and we covered all the positions. As this is a local place (they see very few foreigners), many of the girls were very keen to try out the foreigner. It goes without saying they only spoke Chinese.

Alternatively if you are really cheap (like me!!!) you can take the 104 bus (1 RMB) from the train station (the bus station is 2 minutes walk South of the train station) and ask to be let off at Chengnan Zhonglu.

Hope this is clear, if you have any questions, message me.

Enjoy.

Reptile

Mcavity
09-13-05, 17:37
Previous post spot on. Umpteen establishments under the flyover and nearby offering everything you could want - I hope! All much of a muchness and since I was staying close by in the very gf Tian Xi Hotel ( excellent value at 380 rmb per night inc breakfast) decided I'd opt for a takeaway rather than some poxy back room. Appearance of laowai caused some consternation but business is business and after negotiations with mamasan picked by local standards quite a tall well busted Hunan girl for 300 rmb. Clearly wasn't a regular on the hotel scene but with a bit of tuition she got the idea of what a shower was for but quite obvious she was more used to quick screwing than anything a bit more sophisticated or leisurely. Nonetheless I had time to spare, and we built up a bit of a rapport over a three round night but hard going nonetheless. Sent her on her way with 100 tip. What a softy I am. Plenty of other places to explore in Chengnan Zhonglu if time had permitted.

Erik
09-14-05, 22:04
Mcavity,
Which flyover ? In which street ? Are you refering to the scene in Chengnan zhonglu ? Please give precisions. Thanks.

Mcavity
09-15-05, 16:07
Mcavity, Which flyover? In which street? Are you refering to the scene in Chengnan zhonglu? Please give precisions. Thanks. Yes the Chengnan Zhong Lu area. If you are heading north on Furong Lu, past the "big wheel" and Tian Xi Hotel on the left, then turn right at the first intersection with traffic lights, the main road heads east over a flyover but about 200 meters after the junction a slip road runs off to the side and you've struck gold. About 3/4 establishments on the right, looked a bit more upmarket than the 6/7 on the other side of the road under the underpass. Only had one evening free so no chance to fully explore but plenty of potential. Took my girl from one of the places on the left. Tried a couple of places first where she they either weren't up for a takeaway - or my bad Chinese and the Hunan accent worked against me. None of the places seemed very busy but some nice slutty bodies on offer. Look forward to my next trip but won't be for ages.

Do you know the area well?

Erik
09-17-05, 10:27
No, I have not been to Changsha yet, but I might very well go soon. That is why I am enquiring. I would also need a cheap (around 100 to 200 Y) friendly hotel centrally situated. If you have any other good idea, please let me know. If you have read my earlier posts you know I am not shelfish and I shall certainly report and attach a few pictures. I'll keep you posted soon.

Erik
10-13-05, 00:53
First time in Changsha. This seemed me straight away to be a hot city ! First hotel I try, I arrive in my room, there is mahjong table and 4 chairs (a sign...), a paying system TV with sex films (maybe only soft though, I did not watch). On the 4th floor, a sauna and a BBS, on the 5th floor a KTV with picture of sexy girls all over the walls. On all these floors, kuaican is about 300 Y.
Hunan girls on the street are very very pretty, often with dark skin and big sexy lips. Quite a few BBS on Chengnan zhonglu, selection not too bad, but none on Bayilu. 150 to 200 Y for ST. Otherwise, massage parlors all around the city, giving different kind of service, you can guess by the level of dressing of the girls. If they have ordinary ugly cloth as the Chinese girls usually wear, it might be no sex. If they wear a skirt, maybe HJ service. If they are very sexy clad, it should be ful service. Pictures to be posted shortly.

John Siron
10-14-05, 09:19
Erik:

Where the hell is Changsha? I'm not good with Chinese geography. ;-p

Heel Lover
10-14-05, 10:50
Erik:

Where the hell is Changsha? I'm not good with Chinese geography. ;-p

Changsha is the head city of Hu Nan province (hometown of the famous Chairman Mao)

Arctic1
10-24-05, 11:06
Over the weekend I visited Changsha, staying at a very nice hotel close to the Royal Seal Hotel (Tian Xi) on Furong Zhonglu. Distinctive nearby landmarks include the Sports Stadium and the Big Wheel (very large Ferris wheel). It was my bad luck to arrive on a rainy day, their first in weeks, I was told. In desperation, I visited the hotel sauna, where the girls were quite young. (FS for 400 rmb plus the cost of the room in the sauna.) Youth too often means inexperience. I can also report the BBS on Chengnan Zhonglu are thriving below the overpass (flyover) on the north side (200 RMB for FS and BBBJ, takeaway available, plus good quality and a service attitude). I regret I was unable to identify the side street previously reported. It really sounded good.

WooVictor
03-03-06, 11:51
I went to Changsha for a couple of days about two weeks ago, my first visit to this supposedly quite cultured and historic city. What I found was the enormous popularity of “leisure” or “health” centres that could be found at almost every street corner.

I got to the Huatian Hotel, the leading five-star hotel in Changsha, rather late at night. After getting a quick bite to eat I ventured to the old wing of the hotel for a quick cruise of its entertainment centre. On the second floor was a rather small and rundown swimming pool, and I had no desire to swim there at all. Next door to the pool and the gym were a beauty salon, a sauna and a foot massage centre. No hanky panky was available at the beauty salon or the sauna, but the foot massage centre was in fact a full-fledged massage parlor or, shall we say, a brothel. It’s got about 20 VIP rooms, each laid out like a standard three-star hotel guest room. The masseuses could also provide in-room service. I asked the waiter to show me a couple of girls and then went back to my room to sort out a few things before calling the massage centre for service.

My girl came within five minutes of my phone call. We showered together and then went on bed for a thorough cat bath with AR before sex. She was a nice girl but there was nothing really special about her or her service. After the deed was done she told me that I owed her 900yuan. That was quite steep for Changsha, a third-tier city in my view. But I confirmed it right away with the massage centre manager over the phone so there was nothing I could do.

The following night I went to the Xindu Hotel sanua, which according to a certain Chinese website for sex travelers offered anal service. The sauna is located on the seventh and eighth floors, and consists of some 40-50 rooms. As I entered I saw a couple of masseuses collecting their gears such as plastic cups of hot and cold water etc from the cashier’s counter. A manageress greeted me and showed me into one of the massage rooms. It was designed more or less like an ordinary hotel guest room though there was no bathing tub but only a shower area. The rooms were clean and tidy but not luxurious. I asked the manageress if there were any better rooms and she said there were two VIP suites which were a bit bigger and had a special love bed installed, in addition to an ordinary double bed. She then took me up a “secret” staircase hidden behind a door, and we went up to the eighth floor which had even more rooms.

The love bed is slightly narrower than a double bed, and is installed with a pump under the mattress right in the middle of the bed. When switched on, the middle part of the mattress will thrust up and down in rather rapid motion. This saves you and the girl much energy when she rides you in cowgirl style. The bed is framed on either side by two circular steel poles, from which the famous red rope can be hung. At the end of the bed is a pair of leg rest – the girl will lie on the bed and put her legs up the leg rests, and the man can fuck her standing between her legs.

I had to wait about 20 minutes before my masseuse came. As the full service (including anal) package was only 700 yuan, I decided to go for a threesome, on promises of lesbian acts. While we waited for the second girl, the first girl washed me thoroughly with a scrub, including not just my dick but also my asshole and toes. She also gave me a BBBJ while the shower was on.

After the shower we went to bed, and before she started the service with a cat bath the second girl came. I’ve forgotten their names now but do remember that the first girl was from Chongqing and the second from Zhejiang. For someone who’s very sensitive to tickling, I must admit that a double cat bath was not really a pleasure but an excruciating endurance. So I told the Chongqing girl to give me a break and attacked the Zhejiang girl instead. Sure enough, she turned around and ate her companion, who shortly after had to give up her work on me. The Chongqing girl then fetched a rather large dildo from her handbag, and we had much fun fucking the Zhejiang girl with it for a long time.

I won’t go into all the details but suffice to say that it was quite good fun, and the lesbian acts were also quite enjoyable – it was the first such live show that I had ever seen. Unfortunately I did not succeed in my attempt for anal intercourse. I was my third attempt, and still I had no luck. On two occasions, the girl was on her back in bed, and on one occasion the girl was standing on the floor with her ass high up. Would the experts in the art of the backdoor care to offer any suggestions?

Arctic1
04-19-06, 00:20
Recently I spent a few days in Changsha, my first visit since October. After reading WooVictor’s excellent recent posting, I wanted to try the Hunan Xindu Hotel and its sauna. The Xindu is a four-star. I found it very GF, with condoms for sale in the rooms. A non-smoking suite cost 498 RMB per night, including two breakfasts and hassle-free wideband internet access.

Fortunately (or unfortunately) I stumbled onto an alternative that kept me otherwise occupied most of my stay. Via one of those travel companion/escort sites on the internet I stumbled across a young lady, a 20-year-old third-year student at a school in a nearby province. The subject of these websites regularly comes up for discussion, and in the past I have been somewhat negative concerning their mongering potential. As a good capitalist, I understand that convenience deserves a premium, but these sites do not really seem to offer much more than that. Their listings are often old and out-of-date. My instincts tell me that there is a lot of smoke, but little fire. The idiom “carrying coals to Newcastle” also comes to mind. After this experience, however, I am beginning to see the subject in a new light.

In fact, this lady’s information was not listed on any website. She contacted me, not the other way around. A tiny thing, she surely did not weigh more than 40 kilos. She stayed with me 24 hours a day and gave me very close to a GFE, for which I paid her 1000 RMB per day. I got the impression of a fairly good family upbringing. A trooper, she was open to all suggestions and did not complain, even though I did unintentionally cause her some pain. Not much English, of course. I will share contact information with responsible senior members. You can tell that I feel a little protective. Keep in mind that she is not from Changsha, but Nanchang.

After putting the 20-year-old in a taxi for a 5:50 a.m. train, I decided to try the sauna before heading out of town myself. The Xindu sauna advertises itself as open 24 hours, so shortly after 6:00 I gave them a call. Time was short. I had to check out of the hotel and appear for an appointment across town at 7:50. Not very smart. Anyway, shortly thereafter a sleepy-looking 18-year-old named Zhou Ya appeared at my door. Pictures posted. She offered ninety minutes for 500 RMB, which I accepted. Zhou Ya says I am her first foreigner. She was playful, frisky. I think she enjoys her work. Adequate BBBJ and enthusiastic mish followed. Due to my time constraint, I was rushing her, quite a switch. I made my appointment across town, but with not a second to spare.

In the future I plan to pay special attention to the possibilities contained in some of these travel companion websites for contacts with similarly unspoiled young things. The real potential lies in their contacting me, rather than the other way around.

WooVictor
05-19-06, 05:42
i re-visited changsha a couple of weeks ago for two days, my second trip so far this year. this time i stayed at the hunan international convention and exhibition hotel, which is owned by the tv station and located right next to it in the suburban areas. it is a “five-star” resort-type hotel with something like 50 two-storey townhouses built around a lake in the hills. the whole place is beautiful and peaceful. rates are quite low at about 600 yuan for a deluxe suite. there are eight rooms in a house, some are suites and others are standard rooms. the buildings and facilities are however not very well maintained and i’d rate the hotel as something between 3 and 4 stars.

my suite was quite spacious – it came with a small open kitchen in the sitting room. there were two bathrooms, one right by the door and had a toilet and bathtub. the other was located within the bedroom and was also equipped with a shower. at the bedside table and in the bathroom were advertisements for the sauna and massage service (located in the entertainment complex, though room service was also available. to make things “easier” for the guests, there was a condom in the bathroom (costs 30 yuan if i remember correctly).

after settling down i went out for a walk in the evening sun and before long strolled over to the entertainment complex, which housed a japanese restaurant, a gym, rooms for snooker, tabel tennis, racket, and board games, a karaoke and a swimming pool, as well as a sauna. i went into the sauna and it seemed like there were at most one or two customers as most of the vip rooms were not in use. there were only suites and no public bath area. they were all very big and well equipped, not only with en-suite bath and sauna/steam facilities but also waterbeds or specially designed lovemaking beds.

after a waitress had shown me around three different rooms, i asked to see the masseuses. she told me to wait in one of the rooms and then went and fetched a masseuse. this girl was number 99, from hubei, with very fair skin and a beautiful face. she was dressed in a tight white dress that exposed most of her tits and thighs. i had no doubt that i wanted her.

it was clear that the sauna was a brothel through and through. as i was traveling with a female colleague of mine i decided that it would be easier if i tried this sauna the next afternoon, when there would be some free time before our evening flight out. for the night, i decided to go into town and try a huge bathhouse first. (as this report is getting rather long, i’ll discuss the first night experience in part 2. part 1 is about the hotel experience in day two).

the next day, after a meeting in the whole morning and a working lunch, i went back to my room for a quick nap. (my room, and that of my colleague’s, was extended to 3pm). at about 2:30 i decided to check out, and then went to the swimming pool for some exercise. the swimming pool was actually quite well equipped – it was a standard short pool of 25 metres by 15 metres, with dept of 2m at one end and 1.5 metre at the other. it was the first standard short pool i had ever seen in any hotel in the various countries that i had traveled to. everything was done professionally, with two life guards on duty.

after swimming, i went to the sauna and was greeted by a different waitress. it was so quiet i suspect i was the only customer. she showed me to one of the suites and then fetched me a masseuse before i had time to place my order. surely enough this masseuse was not number 99 and i had to change. fairly soon, my dream girl came, and a waiter followed with a tray of gadgets.

my girl undressed me, and i undressed her. then we headed to the shower where she cleaned me up thoroughly, paying special attention to my backdoor. after shower, i hopped on bed, and she turned on the tv for me to watch some japanese adult videos – the first time i saw this in a chinese establishment. the interest thing about these japanese adult videos is that someone actually took the pain to edit out all the non-sex scenes. there was absolutely no storyline, all you got was all sorts of sex scenes.

she then got on bed to give me the “service” – everything you can think of. she started by licking and kissing my whole body including fingers and toes as well as rimming my asshole. then she poured some milk on my body and sucked on it in a swift sliding motion – using her mouth as a vacuum cleaner to create a tingling feeling. a body and ass massage followed – first she leaned over me and massage my back, ass and thighs with her tits, then she sat on me and slid all over me, using her ass to massage my whole body. then came a weird service. she inserted a plastic straw into my backend, without the help of any lubrication, and then blew some red wine down the straw into my body. aside from the slight pain caused by the straw i didn’t have any sensual or sexual feeling. strange exercise, i must say.

then i flipped over for another round of similar services. towards the end was the desert storm – a covered ice and fire blowjob with a frizzy drink. now that more or less everything on the menu has been served (so to speak, as of course there was nothing written down), and my dick was hard as a rock, we moved over to the love bed.

it was about the size of a single bed, with a plastic mattress and no bed sheet. my girl turned on the electricity, and two footrests were raised up at the end of the bed. she lay on her back and put her legs on the footrests, while i stood between her legs on a steel plate that kept moving back and forth. this allowed me to fuck her without moving at all (at a speed that can be varied at the push of a button) – and it had the wonder of making me last a long time. we changed into several positions throughout the process. for example, when she rode me cowgirl style, i lay on my back in the middle of the bed, which thrust up and down automatically so that there was no need for any of us to move. i think the whole fucking session last for about 45 minutes, and it was definitely one of the best i’ve had for a long time.

after it was all over, we showered together and she helped me dressed. the bill was about 700 yuan, and i tipped her 100 for really making an effort to please me. i strongly recommend her to any brother who happens to be in changsha.

WooVictor
05-19-06, 05:59
As I said in part 1 of my report, I decided to try out the hotel sauna the next day. For the night, I went to Haikuo Tiankong Sauna at 1, Shaoshan Road South. It is a huge six-storey building that serves both male and female (even children, I kid you not) guests and comes with a hotel, restaurant, gym, nightclub and conference rooms. As you will see later, this place is positioned as a straight bathhouse that is suitable for the whole family to enjoy, not as a brothel which is the positioning of the Convention Hotel sauna.

I went into the huge reception area (two to three thousand square feet, I suppose) on the ground floor, and was shown to one side to remove my shoes and put on a pair of slippers. Then I was escorted to the male entrance (the female entrance was located at the other end of the reception hall). I removed my clothes and locked them up in one of the hundreds of lockers, took the key (plus my phone and wallet), and bought a set of pajamas. This is the one thing that I hate about this kind of huge all-purpose sauna establishments. Every time you visit one, you have to buy your own pajamas. Of course you can take them home but I’ve got a wife. I believe in some places you can ask the house to keep it for you and then use it the next time. But I won’t really trust them with that, and I don’t often go back.

Anyway, the waiter in the locker room told me there were three types of services – a salt bath and two others that he didn’t explained clearly. I decided to try the famous salt bath, and went down the basement through a non-descript door as directed.

At first I didn’t see anyone in the basement, but suddenly a girl came from behind me and led me to one of the many bathrooms there. The bathrooms were partitioned by six-feet tall walls and so if you’re a very tall guy you can see what’s going on inside. In the middle of the bathroom there was a single bed made of steel with a plastic mattress. A shower was mounted on the wall, and a small plastic table stood in the corner.

My washer was dressed in a two-piece (not a bikini) swimming suit that revealed her well-proportioned figure without showing much of her tits. She undressed me, and told me to lie on the bed face down. As soon as I got on bed I tried to touch her thighs, but she escaped and told me it was not allowed. I said I would give her a tip if she would be nice to me, but she declined, saying that it was not allowed by the management and that it was also not acceptable to her, adding that if she would do it then she would have taken on the job as an “extra-service” masseuse upstairs (more on that later).

Then she sprayed water on me, and started the washing process. There were three steps, first she rubbed salt on me, then she cleaned me with soap, and finally she washed me with a bath gel. In between each step she would of course rinse me. Her wash was really enjoyable, and she paid special attention to my private part. She also massaged my ass gently, which was great. When I asked her to insert her finger into my backdoor she was slightly surprised but happily complied, saying that most customers did not like that idea. (Don't get me wrong, I cannot imagine myself having any sensual, let along sexual, interaction with a man, but I do enjoy having my backdoor stimulated by a woman.) After she was done with my back, she told me to flip over and repeated the process on my chest. Towards the end she gave my dick a long and sensual massage for almost 10 minutes, using a lot of bath gel. But she was careful not to make me come.

We chatted merrily during the whole process. According to her, there were four other washers like her who worked 12-hour shifts as the placement was open 24 hours a day. They were not allowed to offer special services to customers, as the management hoped to make more money from us when we went upstairs. They were therefore strictly instructed not to make a customer ejaculate, though they must masturbate them. Upstairs, there were four types of masseuses – those who gave foot massage, regular health massage, handjob and body (the so-called “love of honey” service). There was no full service or oral, according to my girl. I said this was unbelievable, but she insisted that the place was strictly managed and no funny business was possible. I challenged her that if I could get a girl to give me a blowjob or full service then she would have to provide the same service to me, at the same price.

After the washing was over, she dried me and helped me dressed. I tipped her 100 yuan without her asking because I simply enjoyed the experience very much. Then I went upstairs to the fourth floor (the second floor was the sitting room, gym and restaurant, the third floor consisted of rooms for straight massage).

A waiter led me to my room near the reception area (big mistake for a first time customer). I could see there were dozens of rooms down the two corridors on the fourth floor. The room was rather small, with two single beds, a small table and a TV set. I asked for a VIP room with en-suite bath facilities, and was led to one of the two presidential suites that had two bedrooms and a big sitting room. Since I was on my own there was really no point taking the suite and I returned to my standard room. The waiter told me that “love of honey” consisted of body massage and oral, and that was the most the masseuse could do for me.

Anyway my masseuse came momentarily and explained the two packages to me again. One was massage finished with a handjob, and the other was to finish with body but with a bit of oral thrown in. I confirmed my choice of “love of honey”, and asked if she could offer more personally. She said it was dangerous to do that because the management was strict, and that if she were found out to have offered full service she would be fined 5,000 yuan. In any case my room was near the reception and waiters were constantly right outside. She suggested that if I were using a room at the far end she might be willing to take the risk. She later confirmed that she had never given full service at this place, after working there for more than two months, even though a few customers had asked. She also said that if I had a room on the fifth or sixth floor (which were apparently operated as a hotel) she could sneak in to give me full service.

There was not much to report about her service, except that for an extra 200 yuan I got her to strip naked and to allow me to penetrate her with my finger. The massage was okay, but that was not the focus. The blowjob was covered and was very plain. Her tits were just big enough for the job and so there was no firework at the end.

According to her, the third floor was for family use, so that a couple and even their children could share the same room for massage – only foot and regular services. (In fact I saw a 10-year old boy with his father when I was at the locker room. In Beijing some months ago at the Haishang Tianhe Sauna near the West Train Station, I saw a teenage girl having dinner with her mom at the sauna’s restaurant. That place, however, even offered full service. Clearly these huge bathhouses have created a healthy “family-friendly” image for themselves). Female customers are not allowed to go to the fourth floor and so will not possibly run into the “extra-service” masseuses who are dressed in low-cut short dresses that reveal most of their thighs and cleavage. They will therefore be led to believe that the bathhouse is a straight place with no funny business going on – and will not be suspicious when their husbands go there with their male friends for “social gatherings”.

The bill from the house was about 700 yuan (the massage package of salt bath and “love of honey” service came to abut 600 yuan, then there was tea, pajama and all that), though my total spending was about 1,000 yuan. Before I left, I went down to the basement to tell my wash girl that blowjob was indeed available officially, but I didn’t challenge her to give me another round as she was actually in the middle of washing another customer.

Asie Frenchy
06-16-06, 15:36
find the hua tian hotel if you do not stay there easy. Every taxi driver knows it. [pronounce, "hwa tee-ann"]

Stand on the steps with yr back to the hotel, ie exiting the main lobby turn left walk about 100M to the first set of traffic lamps. Turn left again. Walk about 30M and cross.

You will see a small provision shop/geenral store to the left. A small lane, between the apartment blocks

Go thru the archway on the immediate left. A small house

Around 5-6 gals

I found 2 nice 20/21 year olds. Very fresh, did them both [at different times] for 130 each. [this is the local. 'official', price. I am long nose, with little mandarin, but still got the price, not rocket science]

In the next lane another one

Both wil take you to a nearby apartment. Don't worry, it is safe.

In the second house I found 2 other gals, and 3/4. Um. Well. Yuk!

But worth a visit for a quickie

Sorry guys I don't do penthouse style reports about my real or imagined prowess and I don't do scores. Just information which is what this is supposed to be about.

OldAsiaHand
07-16-06, 15:37
I ended up staying in Changsha rather than Zhuzhou as expected. The first day I was roaming around the market area across the street from Wuyi Plaza and stumbled onto a few BBS. Since I had business dinner/meeting that evening I just picked one and told the lao ban niang that I would call for delivery service later. I got back to the hotel (Furama; not bad for 288 net with breakfast and the free sauna pass that MAB mentions) around 11:30 and the girl arrived at about midnight. 18 yo from Yueyang, she was very sweet and bubbly. Standard fare of BBBJ, followed by a few positions of FS. She hung around and cuddled for awhile after the deed which was kind of nice. She wanted to spend the night, but I had to go to Zhuzhou the following morning early. The damage was 130 plus taxi fare and I gave her 50 RMB extra.

We returned from Zhuzhou in the afternoon and I had a couple of hours to kill before my 8:00 pm flight. I hit a Sauna on the corner of Wuyi Lu and Zhongshan Lu, I think. One hour massage was 68, plus 35 to extend an extra half hour. There were those small windows in the doors so the best I could manage was BBBJ for a 100 RMB tip. Not that great since the girl was worried about getting caught in the act.

I wanted to hit the BBS on Chengnan Lu but did not have the time. I passed the area a couple of times but was with non-mongers so could not stop for a look.

The high point of my visit was the business dinner where an absolute knock-out was present. She was nearly a 10; face and body. I did not manage to score that night, but I will definitely try again in the future given the opportunity to return to Changsha.

OAH

Xdentx
07-16-06, 16:17
In the future I plan to pay special attention to the possibilities contained in some of these travel companion websites for contacts with similarly unspoiled young things. The real potential lies in their contacting me, rather than the other way around.I read your post regarding the travel companion websites with interest. I'm researching my first trip to Asia in September (Shenzhen in particular) and thinking that a travel companion for the first day might be nice. One woman listed as Crystal on "Freeiva.com" for 900 rmb/day was also advertising her guide services independently on "Shenzhenparty.com" for 500 rmb daily. The agencies apparently get about half the fee if you go through them. Of course you never know what special services are included in the program.

I also noticed that Crystal was looking for a permanent position in a different ad, both of which have now expired. I did manage to save her contact info and may contact her closer to my travel date.

In the "Geoexpt.com" site, there is a male poster by the name of "Nomad127" who posts frequently in the Shenzhen forum. In private emails he claims he can set me up with what I need (including adult services). I"m supposed to get back to him closer to my travel date to find out what fees are involved.

My other option is to place an ad under "services wanted" in "Shenzhenparty.com" and see what turns up. I agree with all the points you made in your post btw.

Can you recommend any other websites that offer the potential to connect with a guide/companion? Any other thoughts? I do believe a guide/companion for someone who's never been to China might ease things a bit at the start of the trip.

Thanks for you posts and I'll continue reading the forum.

John

Arctic1
07-17-06, 03:06
Can you recommend any other websites that offer the potential to connect with a guide/companion? Any other thoughts? I do believe a guide/companion for someone who's never been to China might ease things a bit at the start of the trip.

JohnIn a private message I already responded to John, but for the benefit of others let me recommend http://www.banwan.com . Chinese language skills are necessary.

Jenevis
03-14-07, 17:15
Its been a while since a report for 'Changsha' has been submitted, which actually worries me as i wil b goin to Changsha next week!


I ended up staying in Changsha rather than Zhuzhou as expected. The first day I was roaming around the market area across the street from Wuyi Plaza and stumbled onto a few BBS. Since I had business dinner/meeting that evening I just picked one and told the lao ban niang that I would call for delivery service later. I got back to the hotel (Furama; not bad for 288 net with breakfast and the free sauna pass that MAB mentions) around 11: 30 and the girl arrived at about midnight. 18 yo from Yueyang, she was very sweet and bubbly. Standard fare of BBBJ, followed by a few positions of FS. She hung around and cuddled for awhile after the deed which was kind of nice. She wanted to spend the night, but I had to go to Zhuzhou the following morning early. The damage was 130 plus taxi fare and I gave her 50 RMB extra.

OAHRMB130?! that's really cheap! mind telling which BBS u went to? as i myself need some companionship during my 1 month stay there :P

I hope you will see this and reply :)

And everyone wish me luck. Hopefully I can bring back some life to this thread as the last post was last year!

Mcavity
03-15-07, 10:12
Belated report as it was late last year but I tried the sauna in the Dragon Seal Hotel at Tian Xi. On the 7th floor as I recall. FS option in "VIP" room was 680 rmb. Room large and well mirrored but the shower was on its last legs. No line up but presented with a cute young thing from Sichuan who looked pretty good. Said she was 18 and only worked there for a week. Came in with the full fire & ice kit and all the other bits from the sweet shop as well but clearly didn't have the faintest idea what she was doing and not happy in her work. FS didn't go well either so opted for an oily HJ. She jumped a mile when I came and rushed off to wash her hands. Xiao Li was her name. Avoid.

Gave it a second visit. Still no lineup but was offered Wang Li a well racked more mature Dong Bei girl who went on to show she was much more into it. Happy in her work, said I was her first laowai and she really gave me a good time. Happy to use all the kit on me. A really good session.

Obviously pot luck at this sauna but worth a try.

Mcavity

Eazy Guy
03-17-07, 06:46
Well, I am in Changsa now and found that the whole scene of Hunan are below the average of other areas in China as I could see those prettier girls have gone to Zhuhai, Shanghai, Shenzhen and etc so just left those girls who do not willing to travel. I have been to a small town called Tong Ping in Anhua, this town is not much of selections but there is another place nearby called Tang Jia Guan is a great place for sight seeing. This place is a village next to a river I do not remember the name but it was a strategic location in the past 1000 years. Another favourite is, the girls from this village is better looking than most of other places in Hunan. Another place is Tao Hua Jiang, this is a place favourite with pretties too. But not many KTVs and saunas, for the whole trip for this round, I would vote for Tao Hua Jiang if you wish to take 1.5 hour flight from Shanghai and another 3 hours of express ride from Changsa West Stand. Hunan people always say "桃江出美女" so you might just go and explore by yourself if you pass by. Overall, the damages is similar with Changsa so don't hope for cheaper mongering, at least not in those areas I have mentioned above.

cheers~

eg

Eazy Guy
03-27-07, 07:39
well, few night ago I was so depressed in changsa so took a taxi and went to xing sha, a newly developed area just next to changsa. If any brothers have been to this area, we all would find that this is a place for mongers like us could have so many funs~

first, I went to a KTV located in a hotel called "Ming Cheng Huang Do", a public relationship mananger greated me, this is the real title on his card, his duties are more or less like those BDM in shanghai but now the title here is PRM just different from sh, he has about 12 girls who are under his supervision. I had a girl who are only about 20 years old, she is not the prettiest girl I met during my mongering life but she was nice to talk with. The damage for having fun over there was a bit high since it was located in a 5 stars hotel in changsa but compare to sh it is still consider cheap. RMB1,200 for myself alone. I ended up went back to hotel alone without her companion.

second, after came out from the KTV I went to a sauna called "Ya Long Wan" for relaxation, by that time was about 2am and the place was empty, from the pool side, relax area and room. I had a room and took the full package for RMB428, the girl and quality of her work I had was only average or even below so nothing to shout about. Maybe it was too late already so gotta be more understanding.

After the night trip to xing sha, I have found that changsa is catching up already, it is a good sign and this would make a lot of people over the country to come over for investments in business and mongering.

cheers~
eg

Jenevis
03-30-07, 16:29
Eazy Guy,

Are you in Changsha atm? I am and was wondering if we could go mongering together as I am not very familiar with this area as this is my first time here. I do hope to see a replyfrom you here soon.

Please perhaps also provide some means of contacting you if you are free for mongering.

Thanx!

Eazy Guy
04-09-07, 13:55
Eazy Guy,

Are you in Changsha atm? I am and was wondering if we could go mongering together as I am not very familiar with this area as this is my first time here. I do hope to see a replyfrom you here soon.

Please perhaps also provide some means of contacting you if you are free for mongering.

Thanx!

I am in shanghai right now, couldn't affort to stay in changsa anymore as I need to survive by earning yuan from china people. well, seems like you are malaysian, right? penang guy? come to sh and I will show you more, will be going to buy you a beer~

eg

Ding Ding
04-21-07, 08:00
Was in Changsha for a few nights. My impression is that the special service BBSs are now really everywhere. At first I went to a cluster of BBS opposite of the big wheel (big wheel is same road as Sheraton, just have no map to look up the name).

On the other side of the wheel is a big hotel "Gold..." something. Right side of this hotel is a small street which after a few hundred meter runs downhill. Then there is a cluster of around 10 BBS whith the light of color we like to see ;-)

I finally decided for one and ran into a strange experience. Was asked 30 RMB for massage. I agree and think about negotiating more then. Taken into a box (which has AC as well), she starts rubbing my stomach and my DiDi through my jeans. Well, I think of more and want to open my trousers. She indicates a NO, but also not asking for money. This continues at least 15 min and no way to communicate about more. So I leave. A girl dropped from a big car, so take out available there?

It is 2am now, all the BBS there close.

I head back to the main street (wheel and hotel) and turned left (opposite direction of Sheraton). After some 100m there is a street triangle packed with many big hotels. Thought I took a picture, but lost it. Sorry. You should be able to identify this triangle on the map.

Before this on the right side a lot of BBS with no look inside doors. Opened some of them and all packed with girls. I decide for on shop and easily find a girl. The one first to look at when come in. The hook for customers. They ask 30 RMB and off we go. Upstairs a surprisingly good massage. She is really a nice girl for which I could fall in love. Very seldom in CN, where the girls are ugly or have bad character – sorry, do not want to be racist, but just my experience so far. She indicated that she does not provide special services and can call another girl, but I have no interest. I ask her about price: 200RMB for full service. I tell her it is 150 and she gets a girl (ugly) but I do not want. Finally offer her 300, but no way. She then agrees to give HJ for 100. I agree. HJ very poor – I*think it was the first of her life. She rarely dares to look at my brother and cannot really handle. But I come anyway. When I leave, I realize that I was there for two hours. Strange.

I go to this street next day afternoon to another shop. Full service agreed easily, go upstairs and have the performance you can expect for this amount of money (CBJ, FS in any position I liked).

Actually a good place to go to.

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Phenyl
05-22-07, 11:11
There are a number of massage parlors in the block around the Huatian hotel. Exit hotel, turn left, go to first traffic light, turn left again (do not cross the street). As you go down this street, you'll see the 2 BBS mentioned by Asie Frenchy in his report from last June. They still seem to be operating. Continue walking down the street until almost at the next traffic light. There is a massage parlor that had a slightly pinkish glow coming out from it. There are at least 2 or 3 more if you continue walking around the big block (left turn, left turn, don't cross streets).

Went in, there is a long price list on the wall. A bit discouraging, about 3 middle aged Chinese ladies are walking out. I guess this one is "multi purpose". The mommy asked me which of three massages on their list I wanted. Can't read Chinese, so picked the one in the middle (100 RMB). Was taken back to room by a cute, thin Jiangxi girl. No lock on door. Attached to the room is a one person size wooden tub. She starts filling this, has me lie on the bed and starts a standard Chinese style massage (not bad, either). When the tub is ready, I get in, she does a really good scrub and wash, with only occassional cleaning swipes in the crotch. Nothing sexy. Afterwards, out, dry, more Chinese massage and then "times up". WTF?

Making the universal handjob sign, she writes 100 RMB. Stuck a finger in her mouth, she writes 200 RMB. Expensive, but late and so not much effort on negotiation. She turns off the regular light and puts on a purple light, and gets to work. A lot of licking and nibbling all over. Excellent skills, good enthusiasm, no fake moaning, CIM. Afterwards she was friendly and affectionate.

I'll report on some of the other ones there when I return to Changsha. This one was on the high side (I know, always negotiate.) but a really nice combination of good massage / pampering AND a great blowjob. Too often the choice is one or the other.

Eaglestar
06-24-07, 09:43
Just now on line Yahoo messenger and a gal paged me. I have done this one several times, in fact a couple of times she flew from Changsha to Shanghai on a day trip just to bump uglies with me.

Guess she is really horny and wants another session. Said she is coming to SH in a few weeks. I copied her comments from Yahoo messenger as follows:

Lili: I LIKE YOU FUCK ME
Lili: WONDERFUL EELING
Lili: FEELING
Lili: YOUR COCK MADE ME CARZY
Lili: NEED MORE AND MORE
Lili: BYE
Lili: SEE YOU NEXT MONTH

She turned on her cam and masterbated while we chatted :)

I will post a report after she comes (cums?)

ES

Phenyl
06-27-07, 15:33
Went back to the same place mentioned in my May report, behind the Huatian hotel. This time the service was somewhat different. As I arrived, the mama pointed to the chart of massages on the wall, pointing to the 100 RMB "scrub". OK, she leads me back to the same room (way in the back), and leaves. Returns in a minute with a real cutie who was smiling and eager, and asks, OK? OK!

This time the massage part was quick and pointless. Into the disposable shorts and hot tub - good scrubbing, with plenty of attention to all areas. Probably around 15 minutes, quite relaxing. Out, dry, to the bed. Had an interesting negotiation - no common language except pointing. She had produced a bottle of oil, so I thought she was trying to downgrade the blowjob to a handjob. Once we got that settled, I had a hard time understanding the price she was quoting (300 RMB) included the 100 RMB scrub and 200 RMB for the bj. I'm pretty sure that is the laowai price, but during the discussion she started working on my knob which pretty much killed my ability to negotiate.

Started out with a tit massage on the back, legs, etc. Nice, but I don't really get the point. She started on a very nice BBBJ. Then comes some sort of cooling goop that she put in her month - much more interesting and intense than icecubes. Anyway, she continued with vigor and enthusiasm, changing positions so all areas could receive some attentions from hands, until CIM. Did not immediately jump up to spit, but continued to suck and stroke for a while (and then the massive Chinese spit fest). Afterwards she brought me back to the tub to wash off the massage oil, etc.

Overall another really nice and relaxing experience.

Phenyl
12-20-07, 20:25
Here's an update on the Huatian area. I have frequented the place mentioned below many times. Partially out of laziness and partially out of satisfaction for services there. But this last visit I decided to check out the other places around there. In general disappointing, but the next night could have been totally different.

Walking left from the Huatian, there is a pink lights place 100 meters away (before crossing streets). About 5 girls, very enthusiastic when I walked in, but the top one was a 4 at best. No way.

Continuing on, crossing the first big street, continue a few hundred meters to the pink lights. Went in and the two girls were about 4s. Maybe less. Kinda skanky looking, but not in a good way; ). They opened with 300 RMB for a HJ. Turned to walk out, the mommy grabbed me and offered 100 for HJ. No thanks.

Checked out the places mentioned by Asie Frenchy (you have to walk around a gated area to get to them, no longer direct access from street). The one closest to the convenience store. I walked in and got a bunch of blank stares. Anmo not available. The girls there were about 5s, and clearly not interested in a laowai. Went to the next one, the guy there was quite eager to negotiate pricing, but the one girl available looked terrified at having to do a foreigner. And also rather unattractive. Walked out. This is a fairly dark area and just didn't feel comfortable, so I left.

Went across the main street from there, there is another MP. Took one look at what was on offer and walked out. When the Little Head says "get me outta here", you have to listen.

Finally wound up at the old favorite. Cute 21 yo, said she was from Changsha, about a 7+. There were several others there, all acceptable. Really a night and day difference from other places. This time, rather than doing the washing / massage stuff first, it was right to the action. Enthusiastic, fun girl. Afterwards the washing and scrubbing in the big wooden tub, some massage, very relaxing and delightful. I hate to sound like a shill for this place, but now having compared the immediate options, I'll be going back to this place.

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FernandoAlonso
05-13-08, 20:59
Has anybody here heard from this city (Jia Xiang) near Anxiang in North Hunan province? If someone knows how this is written in Chinese characters would also be helpful.

Thanks!

FernandoAlonso
05-27-08, 09:35
Hey guys,

Anybody from you being in Hunan or having some knowledge about it PM me please. Need to go there and it seems really a remote area for a foreigner.

Thanks

FA

Chitrapa
11-04-08, 23:09
Last week, I decided to check out the services at the Dragon Seal Hotel. Sadly, the place is closed. Anyhow, are there ANY other fellow mongers living in Changsha?

Chitrapa
11-07-08, 15:12
after rtff, i decided to explore the bbs area on chengnan zhonglu road. to get there from the train station (see red dot on the attached maps), travel down wuyi lu road, turn left onto shaoshan lu road until you reach chengnan zhonglu intersection (blue dot in the center of the attached maps). make a right onto chengnan zhonglu road and stay on the street directly under the flyover bridge. from this point until furong lu road (blue dot on the left of the attached maps) there are more than 20 bbs.

in preparation for an evening of mongering x-citement, i purchased a single, pfizer original, magic blue pill. surprisingly, the 128rmb price in changsha was the same as shenzhen.

instead of taking a taxi or bus to the area, i decided to walk from the train station to bbs row. i've found that walking allows you to discover additional unexplored and unreported locations. after reading the previously posted directions, along with carefully reviewing the changsha city map on google, the area itself was fairly easy to find. for those mongers unfamiliar with the full service bbs scene in changsha, just look for the shops with pink windows and lights.

round #1 – start time: wednesday @7:15 pm
vital statistics
age: 19 (hometown: changsha)
height: 5’4”
weight: 105 pounds
looks: 7/10 (cute face w/ a nice smile)
body: 7/10 (small tits)
attitude: 8/10 (almost gfe)
positions: mish, doggy, mish
performance: 8/10
damage: 200rmb

when i entered the first shop, 5 girls were sitting around doing their hair and make-up. after a few minutes of working out the details (i.e. price and girl), i followed a lovely spinner from changsha upstairs.

the room itself was an 8’ by 12” wooden cubical with a mattress and shelves. it was one of six rooms constructed inside a much larger room. the top of the cubical was open to the ceiling, so all the various moans and groans could be easily overheard.

with the full effects of the magic blue pill kicking in, it was time to get down to business. i’ve got a normal foreplay routine to get a girl comfortable and wet before the main event. i start off kissing and licking her entire body. this spinner’s small tits fit nicely in my mouth. as i kissed and sucked her nipples, it didn’t take long for her love box to become wet and moist.

when i first entered her body, she wasn’t as tight as my previous shenzhen encounters. i would say her love box had a nice fit and feel. after a few minutes working a soft and slow mish, she turned over for some doggy fun. it was at this point that things started to get x-tremely x-citing. the action now moved into warp drive. it’s moments like this that makes mongering worth all the time, money and effort. it’s an amazing thrill to pound away on a beautiful girl less than half your age. right as i was about ready to x-plode, i quickly turned her over and finished up with a fast and furious mish.

why do most chinese girls give the internationally recognized thumbs up sign after the main event?

after leaving the first bbs, my body needed a bit of time to recover for the next round. as i window shopped, i was amazed at the overall quality of the girls available in most shops.

round #2 – start time 8:25 pm
vital statistics
age: verified 18.4 (hometown: changsha)
height: 4’10”
weight: maybe 85 pounds (the perfect definition of a spinner)
looks: 8.7/10 (pretty face & smile)
body: 8/10 (small tits with a firm butt and nice hips)
attitude: 6.5/10 (chinese blonde?)
positions: mish, cowgirl, mish
performance: 6/10 (inexperienced)
monger thrill level: 9/10
damage: 200rmb

this second bbs was somewhat different from the first shop. first, it looked like a legitimate hair salon. second, once i got upstairs, this place had actual rooms. unlike the cubical set-up, the girls didn’t live and work in the same wooden room. and lastly, the mamasan seemed generally surprised when i walked in the front door.

am i the only western born monger in changsha?

anyhow, once i got upstairs, i told the girl “200rmb”. she smiled and walks back downstairs to discuss the price with the mamasan. after a few minutes, she comes back upstairs and says 300rmb. once again, i kindly reply “200rmb.” this time, her conversation with the mamasan lasts all of 30 seconds…lol.

after entering the room, she slowly removes all her clothes. honestly, it was a bit of a thrill watching her undress. the whole scene felt unrushed and natural.

as with most girls, i started things off with the typical nipple kissing and tit sucking. her small, little, juicy breasts fit completely inside of my mouth. unlike the first girl from earlier in the evening, it took this spinner a few x-tra minutes of foreplay to become moist.

once again, the main event started with a soft and slow mish. despite her small stature, her love box fit comfortably around old mr. happy. with our bodies connected, i sensed she was somewhat new to the business. when i tried to move her into the cowgirl position, she was a bit dazed & confused. i immediately got the impression she only knew the traditional mish. it's for this reason that i awarded her x-tra bonus points. it has less to do with her youth and more about being able to teach a new sexual position. even though i’ve x-perienced much better rides, it was a rush watching her face as she experienced the joys of riding cowgirl for the first time. with a little more intensive practice, i’m convinced this spinner will soon be riding high in the saddle. after i felt her tightening inner climax, i finished up things with a heart pumping, aerobics style mish. there's nothing wrong about wanting to get your money's worth.

round #3 – start time 9:50 pm
upon exiting the bbs, it was time for a well-deserved massage.
vital statistics
age: 24 (badge #255)
height: 5’5”
weight: 115 pounds
looks: 6/10 (average)
attitude: 8/10 (very professional)
body: 6/10 (small tits with extremely long and perky nipples)
positions: tub bath, massage & oily hj
damage: 268rmb

since this first time i had visited a spa in changsha, i really didn’t know what to expect. unlike the typical locker room routine in shenzhen, at this specific establishment, each private room had its own self-contained wooden bath tub and shower. the door had a privacy latch and towel hooks above a small satin glass viewing window. what did it all mean? basically, my gut told me full-service may be on the menu. anyhow, after already playing two wonderful rounds of golf, i was actually hoping for a little therapeutic pampering.

as i started to undress, the girl went about filling up the wooden bath tub and preparing the towels and sheets on the bed. once inside the tub, she went about scrubbing my back, arms, chest, stomach and more importantly, mr. happy. at this point, i knew the 268rmb fee included a happy ending.
while the massage was slightly above average, she took pride in providing a decent hj. she let me suck and kiss her small breast. this girl had extremely long nipples. after a lifetime of mongering, i’ve seen hundreds of breast. her nipples are by far the longest i’ve ever seen on a woman.

further research

after i started writing this specific report, i realized i needed to do conduct some additional research of the chengnan zhonglu road bbs area.
start time – friday @ 7:00 pm

in the interest in saving time, this time around i took a taxi. believe it or not, i visited four different shops before i struck gold.

at the first bbs, none of the girls really fit my mongering taste. also, i felt a bit uncomfortable with the overall surroundings. moving on down the road, i decided to try my luck again with the 85 pound spinner. sadly, the shop was completely empty. it appeared that none of mamasans employees decided to show up for work…lol. then, in the very next shop, the reception room had danger written all over it. all the girls looked ****, thus, i found myself making a quick and immediate exit.

while the old saying goes “three times is the charm,” tonight, it took four attempts to finally hit a hole-in-one.

vital statistics
age: verified 18 (hometown: changsha)
height: 5’
weight: 90 pounds
looks: 8/10
attitude: gfe 9/10 (excellent english skills)
body: 8/10 (nice, large, firm breasts)
positions: mish & doggy
damage: 200rmb

in the interest of saving valuable forum space, i’ll spare my fellow mongers another penthouse style play-by-play report. the most amazing thing about this girl is she speaks x-cellent english. i also have her phone number. it's entirely possible i’ve discovered a regular changsha afternoon delight.

question
does anyone have information regarding the no-tell motel scene in changsha? i'm looking for a place that’s cheap, clean, comfortable and private for some special medical treatments…lol.

Chitrapa
11-09-08, 15:03
This is a follow up report to the SPA reviewed in my previous post.

Location: To get to this SPA from the train station, travel straight down Wuyi Lu road and cross the river. Once you’re over the bridge, make an immediate left at the first traffic light. From this point, you need to review the attached maps. The red dots on both maps mark the SPAs exact location. On both maps, it’s easy to identify the first major intersection after the bridge. IF a fellow monger actually finds this SPA, I’ll be completely amazed. Anyhow, if you get lost, just look for a statue of a roman soldier guarding an archway into an empty parking lot. Next, walk past NERO and straight under the archway...it's impossible to miss the front door.

START TIME: Sunday @ 11:15 am

Vital Statistics
Age: 22 (Badge #297)
Height: 5’6”
Weight: 100 pounds
Looks: 6/10 (Average)
Body: 6/10 (tiny tits)
Attitude: 5/10 (ALL- Business)
Service: Tub Bath, Shower, Soft Massage, Oily HJ, Shower, Massage
Damage: 215rmb (Originally quoted 368rmb)

Since this was my second visit to this particular SPA, I was on a special 007 mongering mission: The quest for FULL SERVICE. Upon entering the establishment, the staff wasn’t quite prepared for an early customer. Indeed, when the girl first entered the room, she was still wearing street clothes. After starting the bath water, she left to change into the pink SPA uniform and gather the rest of the massage supplies: bath towels, baby powder, massage oil & body soap.

The bath tub and shower scrub routine was almost identical to my first visit. However, this spinner was less enthusiastic about doing her job. Before getting things started on the bed, I showed her a condom. Sadly, despite my best efforts, she refused the X-tra cash for full service. To make matters worse, during the oily HJ, she very reluctantly allowed me to kiss and suck her almost non-existent breasts.

One of the things I enjoyed about visiting SPAs is the overall quality of the service. Since the girl from my previous visit was not on duty, I made the mistake of going against my gut. I know should have walked out. Normally, I’m pretty good at picking winners. Unfortunately, the 215rmb would have been better spent in Changsha’s BBS district.

Will I go back to this SPA? Yes.

However, the next time I’ll be a lot more selective with picking the girl.

MONGER’S NOTEBOOK: Even though I normally fly solo, I wouldn’t mind a wingman for my first KTV X-perience. Since I arrived in China, I’ve limited my mongering to the BBS & SPAs. While I realize KTV ladies cost a bit more, it’d be fun trying the music scene at least once.

COMMENTARY:
It's refresing that the Changsha board is not cluttered with repetitive chat room conversations about everything and nothing. No wonder so many newbies ask for information. It's difficult to find any real updated reports on the Beijing and Shenzhen boards. Lately, these specific boards resemble hostile military outposts defended by a small group of middle-aged, no-budget ex-pats.

IF the established ex-pat community wants to counter the inflationary pressures of visiting businessman and tourist (i.e. mongers with money to burn), then more current, specific and relevant information needs to be published in this forum.

Honestly, married or single mongers on business trips don't care about maintaining or sustaining price controls in the local mongering marketplace.

Time is money.

Believe it or not, while this government maintains direct financial control over most major industries, when it comes to the no-tell motel entertainment world, it's still a free market economy. And as such, it's in the locals best financial interest to info and enlight ALL short term travelers.

Heck, how hard can it be to just ignore every stupid request and/or comment? I'd have over 3,000 posts if I spent all year posting antagonistic RTFF comments about everything and nothing.

Thankfully, this city remains virgin ISG territory, so it's easy to RTFF. Also, it's my money, so it's in my best interest NOT to inflate Changsha's mongering marketplace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit-Cost_Ratio).

With so many bald, middle-aged, sex-pat English teachers living and working in China, it's hard to believe NO ONE in this distinguished literary community remembers the story Stone Soup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_soup).

What this forum really needs is a lot less water...
and a lot more meat and potatoes.

"Man can not live by bread alone!"

Perhaps that's why I'm a monger...lol.

Until Next Time...
Stay Safe & Happy Hunting!

WooVictor
11-12-08, 05:40
Couldn't agree more, pal. I've been blasted several times by the guys in Beijing for paying too much, but for me, quality counts a lot. That's why I frequent the sauna/spa circuits rather than bars or KTVs (even though I also like to drink). In addition, for someone traveling on a tight schedule (sometimes with colleagues), going out on an exploration trip at night may not be a viable option and the more expensive room service is the best (high quality, low risk) solution.

Anyway, I'll be in Changsha next week but not sure if I have time to try the spa that you just reported on. I suspect room service at the Sheraton is the more likely option as I'll be arriving late at night and leave the next day.

Happy hunting to all!

Victor



This is a follow up report to the SPA reviewed in my previous post.

Location: To get to this SPA from the train station, travel straight down Wuyi Lu road and cross the river. Once you’re over the bridge, make an immediate left at the first traffic light. From this point, you need to review the attached maps. The red dots on both maps mark the SPAs exact location. On both maps, it’s easy to identify the first major intersection after the bridge. IF a fellow monger actually finds this SPA, I’ll be completely amazed. Anyhow, if you get lost, just look for a statue of a roman soldier guarding an archway into an empty parking lot. Next, walk past NERO and straight under the archway...it's impossible to miss the front door.

START TIME: Sunday @ 11:15 am

Vital Statistics
Age: 22 (Badge #297)
Height: 5’6”
Weight: 100 pounds
Looks: 6/10 (Average)
Body: 6/10 (tiny tits)
Attitude: 5/10 (ALL- Business)
Service: Tub Bath, Shower, Soft Massage, Oily HJ, Shower, Massage
Damage: 215rmb (Originally quoted 368rmb)

Since this was my second visit to this particular SPA, I was on a special 007 mongering mission: The quest for FULL SERVICE. Upon entering the establishment, the staff wasn’t quite prepared for an early customer. Indeed, when the girl first entered the room, she was still wearing street clothes. After starting the bath water, she left to change into the pink SPA uniform and gather the rest of the massage supplies: bath towels, baby powder, massage oil & body soap.

The bath tub and shower scrub routine was almost identical to my first visit. However, this spinner was less enthusiastic about doing her job. Before getting things started on the bed, I showed her a condom. Sadly, despite my best efforts, she refused the X-tra cash for full service. To make matters worse, during the oily HJ, she very reluctantly allowed me to kiss and suck her almost non-existent breasts.

One of the things I enjoyed about visiting SPAs is the overall quality of the service. Since the girl from my previous visit was not on duty, I made the mistake of going against my gut. I know should have walked out. Normally, I’m pretty good at picking winners. Unfortunately, the 215rmb would have been better spent in Changsha’s BBS district.

Will I go back to this SPA? Yes.

However, the next time I’ll be a lot more selective with picking the girl.

MONGER’S NOTEBOOK: Even though I normally fly solo, I wouldn’t mind a wingman for my first KTV X-perience. Since I arrived in China, I’ve limited my mongering to the BBS & SPAs. While I realize KTV ladies cost a bit more, it’d be fun trying the music scene at least once.

COMMENTARY:
It's refresing that the Changsha board is not cluttered with repetitive chat room conversations about everything and nothing. No wonder so many newbies ask for information. It's difficult to find any real updated reports on the Beijing and Shenzhen boards. Lately, these specific boards resemble hostile military outposts defended by a small group of middle-aged, no-budget ex-pats.

IF the established ex-pat community wants to counter the inflationary pressures of visiting businessman and tourist (i.e. mongers with money to burn), then more current, specific and relevant information needs to be published in this forum.

Honestly, married or single mongers on business trips don't care about maintaining or sustaining price controls in the local mongering marketplace.

Time is money.

Believe it or not, while this government maintains direct financial control over most major industries, when it comes to the no-tell motel entertainment world, it's still a free market economy. And as such, it's in the locals best financial interest to info and enlight ALL short term travelers.

Heck, how hard can it be to just ignore every stupid request and/or comment? I'd have over 3,000 posts if I spent all year posting antagonistic RTFF comments about everything and nothing.

Thankfully, this city remains virgin ISG territory, so it's easy to RTFF. Also, it's my money, so it's in my best interest NOT to inflate Changsha's mongering marketplace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit-Cost_Ratio).

With so many bald, middle-aged, sex-pat English teachers living and working in China, it's hard to believe NO ONE in this distinguished literary community remembers the story Stone Soup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_soup).

What this forum really needs is a lot less water...
and a lot more meat and potatoes.

"Man can not live by bread alone!"

Perhaps that's why I'm a monger...lol.

Until Next Time...
Stay Safe & Happy Hunting!

Chitrapa
11-14-08, 14:55
as a tenured professor in advanced mongerology, i’ve always enjoyed the field work aspects of this hedonistic, cognitive science. indeed, after carefully reviewing the x-citing data collected from three separate surveys of chengnan zhonglu road, it became apparent that some vital information was missing from my previous bbs reports. thus, in the interest of further advancing the field of mongerology, i conducted another pink window tour of the area. it was during this latest expedition that i discovered something slightly unique to the city of changsha.

the following ideas are based on firsthand observations and analysis performed in four different chinese cities: beijing, guangzhou, shenzhen and changsha. with that said, before the established isg community starts commenting on this specific report, please understand these particular findings are based on preliminary data. the following analysis does not represent a definitive conclusion. with hundreds of entertainment venues in hunan’s capital city, it’ll take this humble mongerologist some time to complete this ongoing research project.

field observations: there are two different types of full service bbs in changsha.

in the first type of bbs, a majority of the ladies actually live and work in the establishment itself.

what does is all mean?

basically, the volume of daily customers these girls service is directly related to their living conditions. amazingly, for whatever reason, a high percentage of these ladies are from changsha. normally, i’ve found most girls usually travel to a different city to conduct business. why? well, just imagine a father’s best friend dropping by for a quick pop-n-go lube job? or better yet, a talkative aunt walking by a bbs and seeing a young niece on display?

for the monger searching for a gratifying gfe, there’s a disadvantage to visiting this type of bbs. while most shops provide a standard level of service, unless you’re a famous movie star or actor, don’t expect any special in-house treatment. with that said, if a monger’s looking for a single, long, hard, unemotional, endurance ride, then it a may take a seasoned veteran to satisfy ones sexual hunger. additionally, for the monger with monogamist tendencies, this type of bbs provides a certain degree of predictability. bbs, apartment brothels or full service spas which provide basic room and board typically have less of a staff turnover. thus, it’s actually possible to establish a working relationship with a specific girl. sometimes, chemistry just happens between two people. that was the case during a recent month long stay in sinzhen. two special ladies provided this monger with numerous nut-busting gfes.

in the second variation of bbs, the ladies reside outside the workplace. these shop are set up more like a rent-a-room service. better yet, "rent-a-bed in a small wooden cubical" is closer to the truth. unlike most bbs in beijing, where the line between legitimate hairstyling and x-tra services is somewhat blurred, in changsha, it's impossible to miss the full service pink window shops.

what makes the girls working in these shops different?

in most cases, this category of spinners is x-tremely fresh but relatively inexperienced (i.e. ymmv). so far, from everything i’ve witnessed, the local ladies use these storefronts to earn x-tra cash. how much does a genuine gucci handbag cost these days? thank you mr. deng shao ping!

additionally, with over 125,000 university students in changsha itself, it’s a great way for hunan’s best and brightest to cover their annual tuition. private english lessons are a luxury! if the college ladies only knew most backpacker teachers would happily tutor for free. lol.

university student: what mean by d-a-t-y?
teacher: that’s easy. listen and repeat…“cun-ni-lin-gus.”
educating rita’s adopted chinese sister jiao is hard work.

recent case study
location: bbs on chengnan zhonglu road
start time: wednesday @6:50 pm
vital statistics
age: verified 19 (hometown: changsha)
height: 4’10”
weight: 90pds
looks: 8/10 (cute little china doll)
body: 8.5/10 (perfect melons)
attitude: 10/10 (x-tremely gfe)
positions: daty, mish, cowgirl
performance: 9.8/10
damage: 200rmb (plus 50rmb for non-nude images)

during a previous social anthropological research expedition, this one bbs showed this mongerologist the door. since a dedicated mamasan wasn’t on duty, one girl took it upon herself to represent the group. while one of the four lovely ladies appeared willing to be interviewed, sadly, the self-appointed leader insisted i leave…

nobody likes rejection. it's not like i was trying to audition for american idol. indeed, this distinguished forum maintains a thread dedicated to discrimination and prejudice in china. and to think it's 2008.

three days later:
not deterred by my previous failure, i decided to try this bbs one more time.

why?

once again, nobody likes rejection. i hated being voted off the island.

this time around, 5 fresh faces were on duty. when i entered the bbs, a mamasan was resting on a makeshift cot covered up in a big pink and blue blanket. the weather in changsha is starting to get cold at night. anyhow, it’s hard to fully describe the actual look on her face. it was a mix of disgust, annoyance, aggravation and confusion. just then, right at the moment of defeat, a pretty little spinner enthusiastically jumps up from the couch and grabs my hand.

while i took this as a positive sign, i completely underestimated the sexual appetite of this very petite, 19 year old firecracker.

once inside the room, we started off with the typical name and age routine. as i’ve already written, sometimes chemistry just happens between two people. such was the case with this cute little spinner. first, i started off kissing and licking her entire body. despite the girl’s small stature, her tits were rather large. as i slowly kissed and sucked her nipples, my right hand gently massaged her rapidly warming love box.

normally, at this point in the program, mr. happy receives his protective gift wrapping. however, in the interest of science, this particular moment in time called for a little daty action. amazing! my tongue’s first contact was only met with a slight nervous giggle. because i was on the clock, i decided against giving her the full cun-ni-lin-gus treatment.

when i lifted my head and body in preparation for the mish, she raised both knees and spread her labia majora apart with her fingers. it was like she posing for a layout in hustler magazine. talk about a thrill on blueberry hill! then, as i slowly entered this spinner, her love box tightened firmly around mr. happy. trust me when i say, there’s no finer mongering x-perience than playfully working a freshly moistened, virgin tight spinner. unbelievable! truly unbelievable!

after a few minutes working a soft and slow mish, it was time to speed up the action. this time around she raises both knees and spreads her legs in order to maximize the penetration. talked about getting your money’s worth! she could have won an academy award just on her naturally sounding moans. if this was only an acting job, angelina jolin needs to watch her back.

now it was time to explore another bedroom position. as she was turning over for some doggy fun, she changed her mind and quickly climbed aboard for some cowgirl action.

omg! omg! omg!

this girl really knows how to work her hips. a few years back, i discovered most petite spinners are x-cellent at riding cowgirl. with both hands moving her hips up and down, the non-stop strokes came hard and fast. because of her small statue, it was easy to kiss and suck her beautifully rounded melons. after a completely mind-altering x-plosion, she kept mr. happy inside her body for a few minutes. instead of jumping up and putting on her clothes, she allowed our mutual orgasms to linger…

mission accomplished.

since this was a rent-a-room bbs, i made sure i acquired her contact information. this girl requires at least two or three more interviews.

for those that think i embellished this little culinary bbs tale, think again. i’m only an average writer. if i could have fully captured the power of the moment, i’d already have a publisher in new york and won a pulitzer prize. it’s strange. even after two days, i still can’t get the darn lyrics “she will rock you” out of my head.

who really knows where the reality ends and the fantasy begins?

letters to the editor
woovictor - i guess things have gotten bad in beijing. now mongers are flying to changsha for medical attention. even with a year's supply of viagra, a monger still needs somebody to do it with...lol.

do you plan on revisiting the spa at the hunan international convention and exhibition hotel? it'd be great to know if the place is still worth the time and effort. wherever the mongering road takes you, i'm sure a quality report on your visit will follow...

monger footnotes
for the record, i only post prices relative to the services i actually received (along with specific times and locations). there are too many geographic, economic, political and social factors which set the market value in the p4p business.

on a recent visa run to hong kong, i purchased a nice pair of leather ecco dress shoes (made in slovenia). the cash register came to $1,200hkds (about $155usd).

could i have waited and purchsed a similiar pair on the mainland?

yes, of course. i already have several pairs of made in china shoes in my existing wardrobe.

however, when i first put these shoes on, the feeling was truly amazing! the shoes are x-tremely light and comfortable. unfortunately, i'm a flat-footed monger. thus, shoes remain an important quality of life issue.

so, what am i trying to say?

in the world of p4p, not all my mongering decisions are based on price alone. sometimes, it's the quest itself which provides the greatest thrill and satisfaction. when it comes to spas, i don't really mind spending the x-tra cash for an x-citing fire & ice pampering. the 1168rmb i once paid in a huadu spa was money well spent...

one magic pill...
two sexy spinners...
2.5 hours of non-stop action...
as one girl climax, the next girl jumped on board.
it was the ride of my life!
these ladies completely screwed my brains out!

furthermore, if i decide to tip a bbs girl an x-tra 50rmb, it's my money...so it's my choice. over the years, i've only used this forum as a guidebook. the information contained within these pages only provides a reference point. the price is what the price is. no more. no less. it's not what information you have, but how you use it...

as i already wrote, who really knows where the reality ends and the fantasy begins?

stay safe & happy hunting!

WalkingChina
11-15-08, 00:18
The report below (Chitrapa, second type) is proven true in my experience (not just in Changsha but in 10+ other cities I have been to).- fresh pretty girls at BBS, lots of turnovers, constant stream of new girls looking for extra cash, they are not pros. BBS price is always 300 rmb or less:

100 rmb. On premise

200 rmb. At hotel

300 rmb. Overnight

This is 2008 pricing. Question: Why the hatll are people paying more than 300rmb in any situation in China? And many of these BBS girls are fresh and much better GFE than hotel or KTV girls. You guys don't know how sick I get whenever I read your reports of 800rmb here or 1000rmb there. I suppose if you are a general manager of a manufacturing plant, raking in 100, 000rmb per month, this high-pricing might/maybe makes sense, but most of you are not gm's.

OldAsiaHand
11-15-08, 16:11
The report below (Chitrapa, second type) is proven true in my experience (not just in Changsha but in 10+ other cities I have been to).- fresh pretty girls at BBS, lots of turnovers, constant stream of new girls looking for extra cash, they are not pros. BBS price is always 300 rmb or less:

100 rmb. On premise

200 rmb. At hotel

300 rmb. Overnight

This is 2008 pricing. Question: Why the hatll are people paying more than 300rmb in any situation in China? And many of these BBS girls are fresh and much better GFE than hotel or KTV girls. You guys don't know how sick I get whenever I read your reports of 800rmb here or 1000rmb there. I suppose if you are a general manager of a manufacturing plant, raking in 100, 000rmb per month, this high-pricing might/maybe makes sense, but most of you are not gm's.

Walkingchina,

My sentiments exactly. I also do BBS girls all over China but I may not be as good a negotiater as you are though. It is rare for me to find 100 RMB onsite, usually I am paying 130-150 RMB, but the same price + taxi fare generally applies for takeaway. 300 RMB is a fair price for LT. I generally do not do BBS girls LT, but if I take earlier in the evening, it has cost me up to 400 RMB.

That said, I must admit that most BBS girls are not GFE for me, especially those in the bigger cities. Obviously, there are exceptions. And, they tend to be more GFE back at my hotel compared with doing them onsite.

Just my POV.

OAH

Fast Eddie 48
11-15-08, 21:02
Walkingchina,

My sentiments exactly. I also do BBS girls all over China but I may not be as good a negotiater as you are though. It is rare for me to find 100 RMB onsite, usually I am paying 130-150 RMB, but the same price + taxi fare generally applies for takeaway. 300 RMB is a fair price for LT. I generally do not do BBS girls LT, but if I take earlier in the evening, it has cost me up to 400 RMB.

That said, I must admit that most BBS girls are not GFE for me, especially those in the bigger cities. Obviously, there are exceptions. And, they tend to be more GFE back at my hotel compared with doing them onsite.

Just my POV.

OAHOah,

I have been to Chansha a few time and the info are right on, I find girl work here is mostly local not like in Shenzhen that they come from all over China, I find girl here are GFE, pretty and tall and I was offer a girl all night for 300 rmb after midnight she stay until noon next morning very GFE girl.

I have girl from Changsha in Sebiu bbs on my last trip to China 150 rmb on my last night in Shenzhen and It was the best girl I have on my whole trip not included Thailand but that an other story.

Fast Eddie 48

Clandestine782
11-17-08, 19:01
This is right up the street from Changsha. About an hour or so.

The scene here is not very good. A lot of the women are rather mature and well past their prime. But there was one jewel of a leisure center.

If you get here, it is about a 10RMB taxi ride from the train station. Call the cell phone number: 13975.388546 and the Papasan will tell the taxi driver how to get there.

150 short time (on premises, and in clean rooms). 300 overnight (From 11pm, and in the same rooms.)

The girls at this place are younger that any that I have found in the BBS in this city. Detailed reports will follow. (Have only used two girls, since I am in the habit of going back if the service is good/ decent.)

Wizzy2007
11-17-08, 22:47
This is right up the street from Changsha. About an hour or so.

The scene here is not very good. A lot of the women are rather mature and well past their prime. But there was one jewel of a leisure center.

If you get here, it is about a 10RMB taxi ride from the train station. Call the cell phone number: 13975.388546 and the Papasan will tell the taxi driver how to get there.

150 short time (on premises, and in clean rooms). 300 overnight (From 11pm, and in the same rooms.)

The girls at this place are younger that any that I have found in the BBS in this city. Detailed reports will follow. (Have only used two girls, since I am in the habit of going back if the service is good/ decent.)Yeah great !! Will be in SZ and CHangsha next month so your promised detailed report will be much appreciated !!.
regards,

Wizzy

Chitrapa
11-19-08, 16:58
for almost six months, the changsha thread remained a relatively quiet corner of the isg forum. as the old saying goes, “what a difference a day makes.” with less than a week left on a temporary rental, and roughly a fortnight remaining on an l visa, regrettably, this extended mongering sabbatical will soon come to an end. all that’s left is a train ride to shanghai, a few nights in a no-tell motel, and then the virgin air flight to a wintry a mari usque ad mare.

after this bountiful eastward journey, it’ll take more than a couple double-doubles to set the world right again…

sometimes the mongering road less traveled provides the greatest adventure.

momma always said “life was like a box of chocolates. you never know what you’re going to get.”

such is the case with hunan’s capital city. unlike shenzhen, which developed as an economic and political counterweight to hong kong, the roots of changsha’s tourist industry grew from seeds first cultivated during the long march. changsha is the gateway for pilgrims journeying to the hometown of china’s favorite son. even after the collapse of the soviet union, average georgians view stalin as one of their own. with that in mind, despite this country’s rapid economic transformation, china’s enduring spirit remains tied to its long, turbulent history.

what shanghai banker would fly to kentucky to pay homage at sinking springs farm? how many beijing officials include plains, georgia on their travel itineraries? while a few party members may tour a library in yorba linda, california, i seriously doubt president mckinley’s birthplace is considered a must-see vacation spot. i guess william’s support to the british during the boxer rebellion still rubs folks the wrong way. thankfully, us canadians attempt to stay out of other people’s family business.

anyhow, i digress...

what am i trying to say?

in china (like the rest of the darn world), p4p commodity prices are based on locally driven market forces. the price of tea in china is determined by such factors as time and place, currency x-change rates, negotiation skills, knowledge of the language, along with basic market fundamentals. the old economic theory of supply and demand remains king.

the following is but one example that supports this p4p theory. it’s based on the principles of deductive reasoning:

in the months leading up to the olympics, beijing authorities religiously cracked down on nearly all forms of the p4p business. consequently, demand quickly outpaced supply and the rest is isg history. beijing’s infamous mongering community still mourns the departure of its mongolian whordes. in august, i wonder how many track & field fans paid eliot spitzer (http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=6280407&page=1) prices for that special ooooooo-lympic memory.

after rtff, it’s quite evident that the application of common sense is not-so-common. who needs a m.b.a. to teach business english anyways? heck, you don’t even need a b.a. to teach english at a university. before anyone gets upset with this last remark, please take a deep breath and smile. i realize a degree only means that someone finished college. no more. no less.

“stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed” – don wood

the laws of nature are the laws of nature. the same holds true for basic economic theories and principles. the truth of an idea remains the truth until someone proves it otherwise. the sun will continue to rise in the east until there is no earth.

once again, i digress…

how do the above mentioned ideas relate to this specific city? well, changsha’s history and geography played a significant role in the development of its p4p market. chinese visit changsha because it defines itself as being chinese. changsha doesn’t live in the shadow of hong kong or macau. there’s only one shanghai. this is not beijing or guangzhou. thankfully, this city’s mongering venues inherently carter to budget-minded chinese travelers.

before i submit my latest case study, i have three important words for the distinguished isg community:

suggested retail price

in nearly all of my mongering reports, i’ve included a working timeline (day vs. night), type of venue (spa, apartment brothel or bbs), exact location (directions and/or map), level and types of service (daty mish, cowgirl), and overall price (rmb, us, hkd).

why?

by submitting specific, updated information for review, it assists fellow mongers in making informed decisions. also, it helps clarify the literary line between fact and opinion. for folks to actually comment on the p4p rates in changsha, without even presenting any firsthand market data, is totally absurd. it’s all just based on incidental anecdotal evidence (heresay). rotflmas.

instead of telling the world “what you think” something should cost, this forum’s distinguished membership could spend a bit more time producing quality eye-witness reports. it’s impossible to establish a market’s suggested retail price, when this forum becomes cluttered with chat-room discussions about what folks believe the price of tea in china should be…

jenny: (alabama accent) “have you ever been with a girl, forrest?”
gump: (nervously) “i sit next to them in my home economics class.”

where does reality end and fantasy begin?

case study – xxx-files (vaginismus)
as part an ongoing scientific study into the bbs venues on chengnan zhonglu road, i made another solo expedition into the research area. it’s hard work, but someone has to do it.

location: please read my previous posts for detailed directions to the bbs district along chengnan zhonglu road. additionally, the following interview was conducted inside the “voted off the island” bbs mentioned in my last report. it’s located approximately 170 steps west of the intersection of ziyuan lu and chengnan zhonglu. if you don’t have a directional compass, just start walking towards the river. remember to stay on the right side of chengnan zhonglu road. after walking by a rather large tourist hotel, start looking for the second pink window shop. it’s located down a short set of sidewalk steps.

start time: sunday @6:30 pm

vital statistics
age: verified 20 (hometown: changsha)
height: 4’9” (sub-compact)
weight: 90pds
looks: 8.0/10 (cute little china doll)
body: 8.5/10
attitude: ???/10 (read below)
positions: daty, cowgirl, mish
performance: ???/10 (completely inexperienced)
monger thrill level: 10/10
damage: 200rmb (zero tip)

to be honest, after this specific bbs first voted me off the island, it became the unscientific focus of my intellectual curiosity. if it was indeed a “rent-a-room” service, then the staff turnover should remain relatively high.

for the record, before i revisited this bbs, i spent an hour walking the length and breadth of chengnan zhonglu road. starting from river, i visually surveyed no less than 40 different establishments. andres wang employs a similar trolling technique in beijing. during this latest journey, i discovered a small cluster of 24-hour pink window shops at the end of changsha’s walking street.

my original intention was to explore a different bbs. however, after the preceding lust-fest with the 19 year old sub-compact firecracker, this monger’s slightly modified electropsychometer (or x-meter) kept pointing in just one, fully-erect direction.

this time around, the shop was filled with (8) luscious ladies and (2) smiling mamasans. despite the cold outside, as i opened the glass doors, a blast of hot, sexual air immediately hit my face. the place felt like a warm cabin after a long, snowy walk in the woods.

amazingly, 7 of the 8 girls on duty were all new faces.

instead of the looks of disgust, annoyance, aggravation and confusion, the mamasans greeted my entrance like a messiah’s second coming. i guess the sub-compact firecracker gave my previous cubicle performance an x-tremely positive review…lol. 7 of the 8 girls appeared motivated for a round of golf. however, it was girl #8 that perked this monger’s interest.

why?

first off, she met all my mongering preferences. spinners, compacts and sub-compacts normally arouse my curiosity.

bad flashback
once in korea, i paid 20 dollars for a round of golf with (2) sixty-plus year old caddies. blame it on an evening of way too many ob two-fours! the night ended up as a deleted episode of fear factor.

trust me, dustin hoffman had it good with anne bancroft. and these ladies were not anne bankcroft material. not even close...lol.

in the interest of good taste, i’ll spare my fellow mongers the scary mrs. robinson details. while i’m completely cured of any secret desire to sleep with grannies, i wouldn’t mind hooking up with a couple of eaglestar’s older milfs. but alas, with a long flight home forthcoming, time is not a luxury.

fast forward

basically, it’s a unique look or mona lisa smile that perks my interests. 9 times out of 10, if i just listen to my gut, i’m usually happy with the final results. it’s all about chemistry.

in the case of this particular girl, honestly, she was one of the original cast members who voted me off the island. i’d be lying if i didn’t admit i wanted some redemption. thus, fresh from winning the shop’s immunity challenge, it was time to redeem my green stamps.

this is where the scene gets a bit strange.

for the record, i’m a firm believer in the golden rule. as a faithful practitioner of the mongering arts, i treat every woman with the utmost respect and dignity (even if it’s just for 30 minutes).

as i started to walk towards the back cubicle, a different spinner rushes past me, turns around and gives me a let’s do it baby smile. this girl then motions for us to go into the room together. i’m thinking to myself, “where’s #8?” turning around to spy back into the front room, it's clear girl #8 hasn’t moved from the couch. she sat motionless as a unified chinese chorus sang out for her to move her butt. the look on her face appeared more petrified than terrified.

terrified is the look an actress makes during the climax of a horror flick. petrified looks more like a person’s face just before leaping into a swimming pool for the very first time.

“come in, the water’s great!”

during the confusion, the let’ do it baby spinner tries to negotiate another 50rmb from my wallet.

momma always said “stupid is as stupid does.”

yes, there are still some free market forces a monger can control…

“200!”

after a few more minutes of playful peer coaxing, girl #8 finally entered the room and slowly began removing her clothes. is it just me, or is there something incredibly erotic about watching women undress? who was the guy who invented the strip club? or the artist who first brushed the alluring curves of the female form? it’s just one of life’s beautiful blessings…

once we dispensed with the formalities of exchanging names and ages, it was time to bring our bodies closer together.

i started things off with a little light touching and kissing. there was no need to rush into things. as my lips moved down her body, the original tight nervousness on her face began to fade.

what girl #8 needed was a delicate cun-ni-lin-gus treatment. this girl had a perfectly trimmed v-shaped bush. anyhow, once the routine foreplay was complete, it was time for mr. happy to go to work. as i lifted myself in preparation for the standard mish, she moves her body and motions for us to start things off in the cowgirl position.

normally, most girls just take the medium-shaft putter and line up the shot. however, this spinner was having a difficult time finding the hole. even after three or four minutes, mr. happy had all but traveled an inch. and i'm not joking. despite her best efforts, it was apparent that cowgirl wasn’t happening.

then it hit me...

flashback
back in college, i briefly dated this lovely japanese-canadian girl. she had this medical condition called vaginismus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/vaginismus). the first time we made love, it was x-tremely difficult to achieve full penetration. while she wasn’t a virgin, she said all her previous sexual encounters were a mixture of pleasure and pain. it’s important not to rush a woman with this condition. with a little x-tended foreplay, sex can still be enjoyable for both partners.

back to the present
mr. happy needed to wait. this spinner required special medical attention. i moved her back onto her back and started replaying the previous scene. this time around, i took x-tra care kissing and sucking her nipples...

as i slowly entered her tender body, the look on her face was that same mixture of pleasure and pain i had witnessed many years before...

throughout the whole soft and slow mish, she kept biting her lips. a gentle moan echoed from her throat as i moved deeper and deeper into her body…

when i started to speed things up, she completely spread open her legs and wrapped her arms around my neck and shoulders. each time i shifted gears, she'd raise herself up to bring our bodies closer together…

{dramatic pause}

after the smoke cleared, there was this big glowing smile of accomplishment shining from her face. it was as if she had just overcome a great mental and physical hurdle...

my momma always said you can tell a lot about a person by their shoes, where the go, where they've been. i've worn lots of shoes, i bet if i think about it real hard i can remember my first pair of shoes.

when girl #8 skated back into the main room, it was like she had just scored a short-handed, overtime goal in the 7th game of the stanley cup!

amazing! truly amazing!

sometimes educating rita takes a softer touch...

until next time,
stay safe & happy hunting!

up next – spa-lious review

Chitrapa
11-23-08, 03:11
"Women need a reason to have sex.
Men just need a place." - Billy Crystal

In the mist of packing, I realized there was some impotent mongering business left unfinished.
Before too much time had elapsed, I needed to sit down and bang out a few more notes.

This old Smith Corona has seen better days. Since the fall of Saigon, it’s been a faithful travel companion.
To be honest, I still get strange looks at airport security. It’s becoming harder to find fresh ink ribbon.
Sadly, this trip to China may have been its final journey. It’s time for one of those technological upgrades...

How many folks know anything about a Commodore 64? My younger brother thinks I should go with the Apple IIe.
The whole MAC vs. PC debate still bloggers my mind. It's all geek to me.

Once again, I digress from the subject at hand…

Where was I?

{Reflective Pause}

“The Theory of Mongerology?”

{Writer slowly sips a freshly brewed cup of Café Verona}

“Grasp the subject and the words will follow.”

{Writer begins to type}

CASE STUDY - VIP Cards

At the end of the previous report, I wrote “Up Next – SPA-lious Review.”

First, while I’m under no legal or moral obligation to generate another field report, normally, I do what I say and say what I mean.
Second, this original title suggests this writer struck mongering gold. Honestly, nothing could be farther from the truth.
An oily HJ is an oily HJ.

What makes this next report interesting was Badge #70.
For the better part of an hour, a Changsha native offered
a rare snapshot into the inner working of the local SPA scene.

Badge #70: (Pointing) “What is these?”
WRITER: “Those are your nipples.”
#70: “Nupples?”
WRITER: (Smiling) “Nip-poles. Nip-poles.”
#70: “Nupples.” (Grasping Mr. Happy) “And this?”

Instead of interviewing Brad Pitt about some 200 year long homoerotic odyssey with Tom Cruise, this writer found himself conducting an impromptu English lesson in the middle of a hand job. Not only did this spinner score high marks on her TOEFL exam, she displayed a keen interest in the proper use of English slang. In college, she had memorized a vocabulary list of dirty dialogue by watching American porno movies.

TV ANNOUNCER: In our last episode, our hero is seen quickly exiting a pink window shop on Chengnan Zhonglu road.

After a refreshing POP-n-GO at my favorite BBS, it was time for a hot shower. There’s nothing better than a special, full body pampering after a round of golf. A golfer has to keep his equipment clean. While some guys just wash their balls on the cart, I prefer going into the clubhouse.

This time around, instead of traveling across the river for a tub bath (see previous reports), I gathered up the financial courage to explore a different establishment. As most regular ISG readers already know, discovering a decent indecent SPA is strictly a hit-n-miss proposition. Additionally, since the ISG information on Changsha itself is dated, any expedition into any establishment is a spiritual leap into the great unknown.

Earlier in the evening, while trolling Chengnan Zhonglu road, I strolled by a SPA which appeared to offer some potential. These days, the nights in Changsha are rather brisk. So, when I spotted a walkie-talkie lady standing outside in a poorly fitted, J.C. Penney style, lavender colored, polyester evening gown, it only meant one of two things: (a) Church Bingo or (b) Handjobs-R-US.

In Sinzhen, it took some time getting used to the whole the locker room routine. How hard can it be to hang up underwear on a metal hanger anyways? Is handing me a dirty towel after a cold shower really worth 10rmb?

Where was I?

In the interest of saving time, I’m going to fast forward a bit.

Quite frankly, as I already stated, an oily HJ is an oily HJ. It’s either highly motivated or X-tremely mechanical.
Unfortunately, the second of which can prove excessively painful.

In order to highlight some key points, I’ve exercised a bit of editorial license with the following interview. I’ve striped away all excessive language to dig at the roots of the subject. Why? Well, it’s just one simple conversation with one specific girl in one particular SPA.

No definitive conclusion can or should be reached based on one random encounter:

WRITER: “Are you really from Changsha?”
#70: “Yes, my whole family lives here.”

WRITER: “How long have you been working in this SPA?”
#70: “About five months.”

WRITER: “How many days a week do you work?”
#70: “I get two days off a month.”

WRITER: “How many hours do you work?”
#70: “I start at noon and get off at 5 the next morning.”

WRITER: “Do you have a boyfriend?”
#70: “Yes.”
WRITER: “Does he know?”
#70: “Yes.”

WRITER: “How many men have you had sex with?”
#70: “Less than 10.”
WRITER: “Really?”
#70: “Yes, less than 10.”
WRITER: “Have you ever had sex with a westerner?”
#70: “No. But many of them cum in this SPA.”

WRITER: “Why do you work here?”
#70: “I need the money. If I sell 15 VIP cards in one month,
I get a bonus. All the girls need to sell enough VIP cards to keep working.”
WRITER: “How much are the VIP cards?”
#70: “500rmb.”
WRITER: “I’m not interested in the VIP card. Here’s a 100rmb for the service.”
#70: “No tips. It’s against the rules. We’re not allowed to take tips.”
WRITER: “Instead of buying a VIP card, why don’t I pay you 500rmb
to go to a motel.”

#70: “Maybe. Will you buy a VIP card?”
WRITER: “I’ve got to go...”
#70: “Will you buy a VIP card?”
WRITER: "No really, I have to go home."
#70: "Will you buy a VIP card?"

As I was paying the 200rmb bill, the first thing
the front desk person asked Badge #70 was
IF I was buying a darn VIP card...

{Reflective Pause}

Sometimes Lovely Rita just don’t understand the bigger picture.

{Writer lights a cigarette}

Unless of course, Billy Crystal's right.
Then that means this Rita knew X-actly what she was doing the whole time...lol.

Happy Hunting!

[PS - The attached pictures are of the firecracker interviewed in a previous post. Sorry, no nudes.]

Chitrapa
12-27-08, 22:58
"Men live in a fantasy world. I know this because I am one,
and I actually receive my mail there."
Scott Adams - US cartoonist

Most athletes careers are judged by their personal bests.

The 100 points Wilt Chamberlain scored against the New York Knicks
remains a benchmark for unbroken records. As far as his claim to have
slept with over 20,000 women (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain), even if the statement is only 25% true,
that figure would surely makes him a world class monger.

Michael Phelps' amazing 8 Gold Medals in a single Olympics may never be surpassed.
Indeed, Beijing might have been the last games where Viagra (http://www.miamiherald.com/living/health/story/794525.html) was allowed.
It's likely, by the time London roles around, the sporting world's moral police
will have added BIG BLUE (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/sports/23viagra.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=viagra&st=cse) to its list of banned substances.

With these ideas in mind, a few years back, I remember reading a news story
about the death of a German tourist in Thailand. Basically, following an intense,
two day long, Viagra induced sexual marathon, he died of heart failure.
While the original article didn't mention the number of women involved in this last fatal joyride,
I'm sure this unnamed monger ended his career at the top of his game.

As a professional monger, I have my own list of personal bests...

On a trip to Thailand, I once survived five rounds over four hours with
two lovely ladies.

In China, up until my arrival in Changsha, my personal best for endurance
WAS four rounds with two Huadu SPA spinners for ninety straight, non-stop,
heart pounding minutes. Honestly, I was completely spent after the first two rounds,
but for some reason, these ladies were X-tremely dedicated to customer service.
It's one of the few times where I honestly felt a mongering role-reversal.

In terms of the most Chinese women in one day, in SINzhen,
I once went three ST rounds with three different spinners over a 4.5 hour period.
Additionally, the days events ended with a traditional SPA pampering
(which included a full body massage, DATY and oily HJ).

Case Study - Going for Oooooo-lymp-pic Gold

Since arriving in China, I've developed a bit of a mongering routine.
First, I'd drop a 128rmb Viagra tablet. Then, after an hour or so of
walking around and window shopping, I'd play one or two rounds at a
BBS or apartment brothel. Afterwards, I'd head off to a SPA for a little
physical therapy.

The problem with this routine is that it has become a routine.

Thus, for this particular mongering adventure, I decided
to reverse the order of events. By getting an oily massage
and HJ first, I figured I could maximize my physical endurance
at a rather delightful full service BBS.

Start Time: Monday @ 12:10 p.m.

Location: SPA just off Chengnan Zhonglu road.

Vital Statistics
Age: 24 (Hometown: Changsha)
Looks: 6/10 (Slightly above average)
Attitude: 8/10 (Playfuly)
Service: Massage, Oily HJ, Table Shower, Massage
Performance: 7/10
Damage: 160rmb

Sadly, I've yet to discover a full service SPA in Changsha.
Also, for some strange reason, if you want a decent massage, you
actually have to visit a legitimate establishment.

This SPA's services mirrored previous places I've explored.
However, instead of a traditional Changsha tub bath, this place specializes in table scrubs.

To spare my fellow mongers from another boring, Penthouse-style report
about a typical oil change and lube job, I'll fast-forward this story
to the main event.

Marathon Man?

Location: BBS on Chengnan Zhonglu road. Please read the previous posts for detailed directions to the BBS district along Chengnan Zhonglu road. This specific BBS is located approximately 170 steps WEST of the intersection of Ziyuan Lu and Chengnan Zhonglu. If you forget to pack a compass, just start walking towards the river. Remember to keep on the right side of Chengnan Zhonglu road. After walking by a rather large tourist hotel, start looking for the second pink window shop. It’s located down a short set of sidewalk steps.

Start Time: 1:50 p.m.
End Time: 4:15 p.m.

Vital Statistics - 6 BBS Girls
Ages: 18-22
Looks: Varied between 6/10 to 8.5/10
Attitudes: 10/10 (FUN!)
Positions: MISH, Cowgirl, MISH
Performance: 10/10
Total Damage: 200rmb X 6 = 1,200rmb

This was my 4th memorable journey to this specific BBS.

While there are over 50 BBS on or near Chengnan Zhonglu road,
every time I've visited this establishment, I've never been disappointed.
Even though I've discovered several BBS which offer a 150rmb
short order menu, thus far, the overall quality of the service
has been a bit too fast food for this monger's taste buds...

Anyhow, when I entered the BBS, 7 lovely ladies were on duty.
Luckily, 6 out of the 7 girls were completely new faces.
The 7th girl was the same spinner I encountered on a previous visit
to the shop (please read XXX-Files - Vaginismus).

Since one fresh smelling spinner appeared X-tremely enthusiastic to play a round of golf,
the 1st choice on the menu was a relatively simple decision.

Overall, Girl #1 had a great body, face and attitude.

After a completely satisfying MISH, Cowgirl and MISH workout,
I asked Girl #1 to bring in another girl for some additional fun.
Since Mr. Happy was still rock hard from all the Viagra motivated X-citement,
I was ready to start Round #2 of this X-citing sports match.

Now, with Girl #1 taking her place in the audience, I preceeded to follow
the same MISH, Cowgirl & MISH scene with Girl #2.

It was quite clear Girl #1 enjoyed watching her shopmate earn her paycheck.
Indeed, at one point, she angled herself directly behind us to get
a closer look at Mr. Happy working inside her shopmate.

To my surprise, when Mr. Happy missed his mark, she quickly helped
guide the shaft back onto its original magical course.

Once I finished up things with Girl #2, I allowed Girl #1 to leave the
room and asked for a new girl to join the fun. Honestly, the room itself
was only big enough for three people at a time.

With Girl #2 now the casual observer, Girl #3 and I preceeded to cover all
the same MISH, Cowgirl & MISH bases. Amazingly, Girl #2 also appeared
to enjoy watching her shopmate work Mr. Happy...lol.

This adult romper room round robin game continued until I had slept with 6 of the 7 girls on duty.

Besides X-periencing a wild, Viagra induced joyride, every spinner
(except for Girl #6) witnessed an up-close and personal,
live action show starring a fellow shopmate!

As I was preparing to leave the BBS, the six girls were playfully joking
and laughing with one another about the various facial X-pressions
and orgasmic moans they had just witnessed in the service room.

It was quite clear the preceeding events
provided these X-ceptional BBS girls
an interesting topic for future discussions.

Would this writer do it again?

Perhaps.

I truly enjoy being a legend in my own mind...lol.

"People think the future means the end of history,
well, we haven't run out of history just yet."
Captain James T. Kirk

Advancing the scientific frontiers of Mongerology
continues to be X-tremely rewarding and X-hausting work.

I would say...it took a few days for this old monger's body
to fully recover from this latest Close Encounter of the 4th Kind.

Until Next Time...
Stay Safe and Happy Hunting!

PHOTO CREDIT
The following images were taken of the spinner described below in Post #39
(look under the sub-heading FURTHER RESEARCH). Sadly, after less than
a month on the job, this girl had become more business-like in the bedroom.
While she allowed me to snap a couple of non-nude pictures, for
our second encounter, she was clearly less motivated in her work.

Loveasiangirls
12-28-08, 22:57
You did 6 girls in that BBS?!! Ok, you deserve a gold medal!!!!

Chitrapa
01-10-09, 15:06
"The doorstep to the temple of wisdom
is a knowledge of our own ignorance."
Benjamin Franklin

{Writer lights a cigarette}

Grasp the subject and the words will follow...

{Writer begins to type}

Recently, I've started to develop a theory about certain mongering threads
contained within this noteworthy forum.

Basically, I believe the "China Women - Opinions and Advice" and the
"Cheap Sex in China" threads inspired the Real Men of Genius (http://www.contemporaryinsanity.org/audio-video/bud-light-real-men-of-genius.html) radio series.
Some lurking advertising guru living in Chicago actually RTFF.

Not that anyone cares, but one discussion in particular has me completely ROTFLMAS.

"Should I marry a WG?"

Since when did the ISG community become experts on the human heart?
And to think I thought there was only ONE Dr. Phil.

"Today we salute you Mr Inspirational Poster Writer!"

It's bad enough the world's moral police continue to legislate
the private, bedroom affairs of consenting adults,
now certified mongers are passing judgement on affairs of the heart...lol.

IF some pension earning, multi-divorced, completely bald, Viagra popping
monger wants to hook up with some young, beautiful, sexy LBFM...

God Bless Him!

IF this spinner eventually empties out his bank accounts after an amazing joyride,
so be it.

OMFG!!!

Life's about surviving an endless series of gambles.
Sometimes, we just have to play the hand we're dealt.

Condoms break and HIV is forever.

Just because medical science hasn't found a cure for
average-size penis syndrome, doesn't mean this monger
will abstain from enjoying a full course dinner at
Mama-sans House of Pancakes.

Heck, folks should Google the divorce rates of the troops
returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

After some patriotic, All-America SGT spends a year getting his ass shot at in Baghdad,
he discovers his bible reading, flag-waving, polly purebreed wife
is screwing the drive thru window guy at Taco Bell.

If Every Rose has its Thorn, then I'd rather spend
One Night In Bangkok with a HOT Lady LBFM Godiva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Godiva),
than a lifetime with a BBW who sings Whole Lotta Rosie
on karaoke night at the Motel 6 in Sturgis.

If a monger's happy, then Nothing Else Matters...

Otherwise, it's all just Paradise by the Dashboard Lights...

Over these many years, I've learned one important life lesson.
If folks just follow the Golden Rule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule), most major issues usually sort
themselves out without any divine intervention.

Yes, even in the House of the Rising Sun, it's possible to find true love.

Nothing's Impossible, Anything's Possible, Shit Happens, so Just Do It!

"I believe that one of life's greatest risks is never daring to risk.
Oprah Winfrey"

{Deep Reflective Pause}

Once again, I disgress from the main purpose of this forum...

{Writer lights another cigarette}

Grasp the subject and the words will follow...

{Writer begins typing}

CASE STUDY - The 3rd Times The Charm

Most clichés are based on some known truth.

At first if you don't succeed, try, try, try again...

Such is the case with a certain SPA this writer has reviewed on two previous occasions.

START TIME: Tuesday, 3:30 P.M.

Location: Please read previous posts

Vital Statistics
Age: 26 (Hometown: Chengdu, Sichuan)
HT: 5'4"
Wt: 125
Face: 6/10
Body: 6/10 (38C)
Service: Tub Bath, Full Body Breast Massage, AR, CBJ, MISH,
PSE Deep Throat CBJ, Doggy, MISH, Tub Bath, Light Massage,
GFE Kissing & Hugging
Overall Performance: 10/10
Total Time: 100 minutes
Total Damage: 348 + 500(FS)=848rmb
Additional Note: Strangely, this was the very 1st WG in Changsha
I've encountered that was from a different city and province.

This time around, when I walked into the SPA,
I was ONLY expecting the regular tub bath & body scrub,
full body massage & Happy Ending.

However, the atmosphere in the lobby felt somewhat different.
Instead of the female manager showing me a room on the 1st floor,
I was immediately taken up to the 4th floor.

I'm thinking to myself, "Why am I walking up these darn stairs."
"WHY is this woman showing me a room on the Dark Side of the Moon."

After checking out the rooms on the 4th floor,
we walk back downstairs to survey the facilities on
the 1st floor.

Finally, the common sense light bulb turns on.

"Maybe, just maybe, there was an actual reason she wants
this monger up on the 4th floor."

BINGO!

{POST THEME MUSIC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STkk4OtLwWM)- Listen for the final verse}

Now, back on the 4th floor, I start undressing
under tacky pink lights. A Korean soft porn
DVD provides a bit of background ambience.

Honestly, I don't miss the locker room SPA boys in SINzhen...lol.

As I'm taking off my pants, an average looking girl
in street clothes knocks on the door and enters the room.

The first impression was like,
"What the heck happened to the sexy SPA uniform?"

Sitting together on the bed, she writes down a price that's 130rmb more than
my last two visits.

How did the price for a HJ go up 75% in just one month?

Since my Chinese is X-tremely limited, our conversation
consisted of pointing at various body parts.

Finally, pointing to her mouth, I discover BJs are
now on the SPAs menu.

Then she writes +500.

"348rmb + 500rmb?"

Pointing to her love box, she utters the only phrase she knows in English,

"Happppppppy Birthday."

"Happy Birthday?"

"Happppppppy Birthday!"

"Oooooooohhhh, Happy Birthday!"

{SCENE: The clouds open up and reveal a chorus of naked nymphs
singing "Hallelujah!"}

After about 10 minutes, she returns wearing a sexy blue mini-skirt
and black latex, thigh-length, stiletto boots.

OMFG!

We're not in Kansas anymore Toto.

"Has this room's been transported to Frankfurt's Red Light District?"

I'm thinking, "Is this one of those get down on the floor and bark like a dog fantasties?"

Where does reality end and the fantasy begin?

As she prepared the bath water, I paused to enjoy the simple beauty of her motions.
Less than 20 minutes beforehand, we were two complete strangers in a sea of faces.
It was during this eX-act moment of reflection she does something quite un-eXpected.
She walks over to one of those big foot massage chairs and proceeds to barricade the room's door.

"Have you ever seen the movie Fort Apache the Bronx?"

Climbing into the wooden tub, she takes her time scrubbing my back,
arms and legs. When I stand up for the rinse cycle, she playfully soaps up Mr. Happy.
The whole time Mel Brooks' quote "it's good to be the king" kept repeating
inside my head.

While there's a significant cost benefit to visiting a low budget BBS or apartment
brothel, almost nothing beats a special pampering from a dedicated SPA lady.

After drying off, we moved over to the bed for Phase Two.

Lying on my stomach, she starts things off with a rather stimulating
full body breast massage.

The next thing I know, her moist tongue is making small circles around my arse.

"Hot Patootie bless my soul I really love that rock-n-roll!"

Turning over, she quickly covers Mr. Happy and begins working
a highly motivated CBJ. I love watching a professional at work!

While changing positions to the MISH, I attempted a little DATY action...

"Mayo!"

As I worked Mr. Happy into her body, a total muscle controlled
tightness grasp the entire length of my shaft.

OMFG!

I then stand up on the bed and she proceeds to work a PSE Deep Throat
CBJ. Shanghai's Kappa Girl isn't even in the same league as this girl.
I've seen the video and this BJ was the real porn star deal!

In keeping with the porn star theme, I move her into the doggy position
(with her head and torso lower than her hips). With her face pressed hard against
the mattress, she looks back up at me with a big smile!

"Hot Patootie bless my soul I really love that rock-n-roll!"

It's quite clear she's enjoying herself, but what happened next
was totally unexpected...

After I X-ploded, she sits up and closely examines the condom.
She could clearly see that my immediate needs were already satisfied.

However, she lays back down in the MISH position and pulls
me down against her body and re-inserts Mr. Happy into her love box.
She then starts pushing my butt up and down and works herself
into a deep moaning, screaming orgasim...

{Pause}

She then reopens her eyes, smiles and gives me a big thumbs up...

Instead of quickly dressing and rushing out the door,
we remain on the bed hugging and kissing like high school lovers...

Wow!

This lovely girl has added a whole new meaning to the phrase,
"Happppppy Birthday!"

Until Next Time
Stay Safe & Happy Hunting!

IN CASE YOU MISSED IT
It appears the financial meltdown has severely
impacted the mongering budget of one crazy
Commonwealth brother.

SYDNEY (Reuters) – An Australian man broke into three adult shops,
had sex with blow up dolls named "Jungle Jane" and then dumped his
plastic conquests in a nearby alley, local media reported Wednesday.

"It's totally bizarre. It's a real concern that someone like that
is out on the street," said one of the owners of the adult sex shops
in Cairns in northern Queensland state.

"He has been taking the dolls out the back and blowing them up and
using the dolls and leaving them in the alley," the owner, who gave the name of Vogue,
told the Cairns Post newspaper.

Police told the Cairns Post that scientific officers had taken DNA samples,
fingerprints and pictures of the crime scene.

Chitrapa
01-12-09, 23:20
Come what may, before the distinguished ISG medical community diagnosis'
this writer with Romeo de Bergerac Syndrome or Saving Private Roxanne
Disease, it's time to set the record straight.

Despite the numerous success stories I've documented
within the Changsha thread, unfortunately, I've X-perienced
a fair amount of mongering failure and dissatisfaction.

Thankfully, the financial, physical and emotional damage has always been less than 200rmb.

In most of the oil change SPAs & Pop-N-Go BBS in Changsha, YMMV.

Anyhow, here are two X-tremely poor quality, cell phone pics of the 2nd worst HJ
provider in China. I'd file a detailed report, however, I'd like to spare
myself any further public embarassment.

And to think this writer could have saved 180rmb just by
staying at home and downloading Eaglestar's inspirational
collection of MILFs.

{Self-Realization Pause}

No wait...

I did that...

and I'm still out 180rmb!

lol.

{Reflective Pause}

Maybe it's time to pay the darn 400rmb and sign up for one
of those Chinese dating sites (http://www.chineselovelinks.com/).

Perhaps there's a special sex-starved, completely uninhibited, camera friendly,
backdoor loving MILF somewhere in this monger's immediate future...

While most Party MILFs are familiar with the menu items
at McDonald's, Pizza Hut and KFC, it's time to introduce a couple of
bored housewives to the special sauce available from
Jack-in-the-Box. As long as this writer steers clear of the
black Audi A-6 crowd, I should be able to keep both my cherished
nuts and F VISA...lol.

Until Next Time
Stay Safe & Happy Hunting!

Chitrapa
01-18-09, 12:07
In the previous post, this writer provided a bit of literary foreshadowing.
Indeed, this next little cautionary tale about tail should be entitled
a Comedy of Errors.

As with all good farces, this story's dramatic climax ends
with a rather delightful happy ending.

{Inspiration Pause}

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
Lao-tzu (some famous Chinese guy)

{Writer begins to type}

Motivated by a distinguished monger's X-cellent success rate
hunting sex-starved MILFs, this writer decided to take
his research into a new direction.

Over these many years, I've enjoyed studying and exploring
the various culinary delights of the mongering arts.

Each new single step has provided this humble monger
with a fresh adventure...

This includes such things as doing
the Tube Snake Boogie with three
different sets of biologically related sisters.

However, up to this point in my life,
I've never actually lined up a potential No-Tell Motel
encounter on the net.

Yes, I'm still an internet Love Connection virgin.

There.

I said it.

"Maybe it's time for one of those Dongguan Band of Brothers
group hugs?"

{Writer lights a cigarette}

For the better part of two weeks, I conducted a rather
lengthy e-mail X-change with a married,
41 year old school teacher.

Then last Wednesday, after finally working out the logistics
for our first meeting, I found myself in a taxi riding across town.

{Reflective Pause}

What are the signs of a mongering apocalypse?

{Writer begins to type}

The meter for taxis in Changsha start at 3rmb.

While it's a city of almost 7 million people,
I've never spent more than 25rmb on a single trip
across town.

So, when the meter hit 40rmb and this monger
was still moving down the road, I started to get
a bit worried.

One of the first questions I asked this
potential MILF was "Do you live in Changsha?"

"Yes."

Actually, this woman lives in an administrative district
loosely connected to Changsha...

After paying the 52rmb fare, I exited the
taxi and waited at the pre-designated bus stop.

It's funny, but several X-tremely HOT MILFs were
standing at the bus stop. I started to wonder which lady
would walk forward and finally introduce herself...

Chinese Voice: "Hello?"

Quickly turning around, this writer was immediately hit
by a cold blast of BUTT UGLY!!!

"Sorry I'm late, but I just came from the dentist."

OMFG!

The little voice inside my head said,
"You need to tell this woman to
go back and get a refund."

I'm not sure what work her dentist actually performed,
but it certainly wasn't anything even closely related
to a dental cleaning.

"Are you hungry?"
"Do you like Chinese food?"

[For those getting bored with this story, now's
a good time to take a commercial break and
check out Prince Albert's latest penis pics
in the Photo Gallery. I'd post POV pics, but this writer still suffers
from average-size penis syndrome. ROTFLMAS]

Where was I?

Blah. Blah. Blah.

"OK."
"Let's go get something to eat."

Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah.

We sit down and this woman orders 10 different
items off the menu and starts eating...

"So, you're not very hungry?"

I wanted to tell this school teacher I lost my appetite
back at the bus stop, but since I'm a so-called gentleman,
I decided to let the question pass.

Have you ever been in a conversation
where a person's lips are moving, but
no audible sounds are coming out of their mouth?

I'm thinking, "If this woman starts a Harry Meet Sally
scene, I'm going to walk out onto the busy street with
my eyes closed!"

Talk about a bad acid flashback...

More Blah, Blah, Blah..

"Do you want to go for a coffee?"

So, after paying the 70rmb bill,
we walked to a nearby coffee shop.

"Would you like to meet my husband?"

Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah...

The little voice inside my head kept repeating,
"When will this F-ing blah, blah, blah, blah end?"

After paying the 100rmb coffee shop tab,
we thankfully said our goodbyes and this monger boarded
another taxi for the 52rmb ride back into the city.

Vital Statistics
Age: 41
Looks: .5/10 (complete two-bagger)
Performance: ?
Duration: 2 hours
Total Damage: 274rmb (plus short term mental health issues)

Mongering Lessons Learned: IF there's a next time, this
monger will makes sure he sees a RECENT picture before getting
into a darn taxi...lol.

As this writer indicated at the beginning
of this little tale, this story does have a happy ending.
Indeed, it has 8 different Happy Endings.

"Deficiency in judgement is properly that which is called stupidity;
and for such a failing we know no remedy.
Immanuel Kant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Kant)

Actually, I discovered the cure for stupidity!

Instead of allowing this exercise in
poor judgement destroy my mongering spirit,
I had the taxi driver drop me off at my
favorite BBS (see previous posts).

As luck would have it,
4 of the 7 ladies on duty
were new faces.

All beautiful!

Thus, in the interest of scientific research,
this writer spent the next fours hours enjoying
the fountain of youth with the entire BBS staff!

I love mongering!

Then, after kissing ALL the wonderful BBS ladies goodbye,
I slowly walked to my favorite SPA (RTFF)
and proceeded to DATY, GFE Deep French Kissing,
MISH, Doggy, PSE CBJ, Cowgirl, & MISH for
forty-five heart pounding minutes with
an X-tremely H-O-T 23 year old Changsha beauty...

"Strange, isn't it? Each man's life touches so many other lives."
It's such a wonderful life...

"I may very well be losing my mind but I have not lost my sense of humor!"
And YES, every good story should have a HAPPY ENDING!

"Can I hear an AMEN?"

Until Next Time
Stay Safe & Happy Hunting

MONGER's FOOTNOTE:
It appears the upcoming CNY is starting to impact
Changsha's BBS p4p business. On a recent sweep
of the main mongering areas, more than half the shops
were already boarded up. Additionally, of those
establishments still open, nearly all of them had the
big metal security gates partially blocking the front doors.

Since a majority of the pink window girls are local,
it remains to be seen how the upcoming holiday will
further impact these remaining p4p venues.

Heeding the sound advice of several well-established ISG legends,
hopefully, this monger collected enough Mama-san House of Pancakes
phone numbers to weather the upcoming dry season.

Chitrapa
03-16-09, 11:19
Since it's been almost two months since the
Changsha thread has been updated, it was time
to sit down and finally file a new report.

In terms of the BBS mongering scene along Chengnan Zhonglu road,
not much has changed over these last seven weeks. However,
anytime something political occurs in Beijing,
a majority of the shops close for four or five
days. Then, once the rhetorical dust settles, the area
eventually returns to normal. With that said,
even during a major crackdown in this specific area,
it's ALWAYS possible to find decent ST service (150-300rmb).

As far as Changsha's SPA scene, at the very least,
a monger can usually expect some sort of happy ending
included in the price (130-200rmb). From my experience,
only SPAs actually connected to a hotel offer full service.
Indeed, the majority of neighborhood SPAs are just fancy
HJ factories.

On my last visit to my favorite full service spa
(see previous reports for directions), a 23 year old, completely
flat-chested A-Cup spinner provided some rather surprising
GFE entertainment. Despite the fact that she spoke almost no English,
as she orgasmed, along with some X-tremely passionate DFK,
she started saying "I love you" over again over again.

I always admire a gurl who truly enjoys her work!

Perhaps the tender DATY warmed her up for the main event...

Also, before I left this SPA, the front desk ladies
gave me a coupon for one FREE session.

Otherwise, ALL the information regarding both Changsha's
BBS and SPA scene remains pretty much the same (i.e. RTFF).

So, why should I write a new report?

Well, about three weeks ago, I discovered another potential
mongering area near Changsha's West Bus Station.

To find it, start from the city's main train station and travel west
across the WuYi bridge. Once you're over the bridge,
continue traveling down this road until you arrive at
Changsha's West Bus Station. Once you're at the station,
just walk around the side streets outlined in black
on the attached maps.

For those that speak decent Chinese, I believe some
apartment mamasans are working the bus station's overflow
parking area. It's located directly across the street from the KFC (see map).
Also, it appears some gurls are earning some X-tra cash
in the noodle shops. Since very few westerners venture into
this part of the city, I believe they don't know how to
approach a potential foreign customer.

After reading World Travelers' recent Kunming posting,
I'm somewhat tempted to rent a cheap hotel room for a few hours and
wait and see who eventually knocks on the door.

While I haven't had any success finding a full service
shop in this particular area, for the three shops I've visited,
the going rate for a simple, paper towel HJ is 100rmb.

Yesterday, a lovely 19 year old allowed me to snap a
couple of photos after taking care of old Mr. Happy
(see attached images).

{Pause}

"It has been my experience that folks who have
no vices have very few virtues."
Abraham Lincoln

{Writer begins to type}

Speaking of flat-chested A-Cup spinners...

And I mean totally FLAT-CHESTED...

For the record, today, I deflowered a 24 year old NO-CUP virgin.

NO BULLSHIT!!!

Indeed, because this playful nubile is X-tremely flat chested,
its emotionally prevented her from dating ANY local men her own age.
Why? Basically, she's been afraid of being rejected because of her
itsy-bitsy breasts...

"There's no need to fear...Underdog is here!"

It was GREAT fun sucking ripe, juicy, perky nipples previously
untouched by human lips...lol.

How did this wonderful event happened?

Well, two months ago, I invested 400 RMB for a
six month subscription to a popular dating site.
You'd be amazed how many young ladies are looking for
some X-tra fun.

Before this forum's moral police condemn
this monger's actions, please be aware that someday,
this lovely cell phone saleswoman plans on marrying
a local guy (i.e. traditional family pressure). Basically, this tender Rita
wants to have some No-Tell Motel fun before walking down the aisle...

After listenting to all her friends talk about their various boyfriends and
sex, she decided it was time to learn a few things for herself...

I Love China!

For true low mileage, nothing beats a virgin!

Until Next Time
Stay Safe & Happy Hunting!

Chitrapa
03-19-09, 14:35
“Some things are better than sex, and some are worse,
but there's nothing exactly like it.”
W. C. Fields

In order to further explore the potential mongering
possibilities around Changsha's West Bus Station,
once again, this writer decided to make another solo
excursion into the research area.

As I stated in a previous report:

In China (like the rest of the darn world), p4p commodity prices
are based on locally driven market forces.

The price of Tea in China is determined by such factors as
time and place, currency X-change rates, negotiation skills,
knowledge of the language, along with basic market fundamentals.

Based on this simple deductive reasoning, when I first observed
the immediate surroundings around Changsha's West Bus Station,
this writer's gut instincts told him that this area had ALL the potential
for a future Cheap Sex in China report.

Bus stations, unlike train stations or airports, usually
link lower budgeted travelers with smaller towns and cities.
Over the last twenty or so, this country has undergone a massive
urbanization of its population.

How many of Hunan's finest have moved to Beijing, Shanghai or Shenzhen
in search of the PEKING DUCK that laid the Golden Egg?

Anyhow, why is any of this analytical blabbering important?

Unfortunately, this writer's local language skills are rather poor.
In fact, nonexistent. I'm an amateur Marcel Marceau who's totally
Lost in Translation. However, when it comes to mongering,
I've never had ANY problems finding a decent oil change & lube job.

It's called situational awareness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_awareness).

Honestly, in this beautiful country, it's really not that hard to find
anything and everything...lol.

CASE STUDY - Cheap Sex in Changsha

Location: 5 minute walk from Changsha's West Bus Station
Start Time: Wednesday at 9 a.m.

Vital Statistics
Age: 20 years old
Ht: 5'
Wt: 90 pounds
Body: 8/10 (A-Cup Spinner)
Looks: 7/10
Performance: 6.5/10
Positions: MISH & Doggy
Total Damage: 100rmb

In my previous report, after I downloaded
Mr. Happy into a cheap paper towel, I returned
home and uploaded two photos of a 19 year old HJ gurl.

This time around, when I entered this same shop,
I pointed to the back stairs and indicated
that I wanted a private room.

Sure enough, after walking up four
flights of stairs, I was shown a room and
offered FULL SERVICE for just 100rmb.

And to think, just two days prior,
in the same darn shop, I actually paid
100rmb for a HJ.

“Love is the answer, but while you are waiting for
the answer SEX raises some pretty good questions”
Woody Allen

{Writer kneels in prayer}

Thank you Miss Higher Power
(or whatever your name is) for
this week's bountiful blessings.

{Reflective Pause}

Thank you for the wonderful PEKING DUCK breakfast. I'm sorry
I forgot her name, but you know the spinner I'm talking about...

Thank you for sending this faithful monger
the X-tremely lovely 24 year old NO-Cup VIRGIN (see previous post).

Thank you for helping this budget-minded monger
discover the cheapest full service BBS in Changsha.

Thank you for the morally enlightened mongering laws on
the books in New Zealand & Germany!

{Another Reflective Pause}

Once again, thank you for Canadian Bacon, proxy servers, the ISG forum and OTC Viagra!

and finally...

Thank you for the FREE coupon for a return visit
to my favorite full service SPA.

In the name of the MISH, the DOGGY, & the Cowgirl we pray...

AMEN!

{Writer slowly gets up from his knees, walks over to his desk, sits down,
lights a cigarette and begins to type}

Now, IF its at all possible, could Beijing's distinguished mongering
community PLEASE stop trying to solve the world's pathetic moral
dilemmas and file a report that actually promotes (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3900361.stm) the Mongering Arts (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7933973.stm)?

Lately, the entire thread reads like a BBC story about the Pope
selling SAFE SEX in Africa.

ROTFLMAS!

Why is it that the private SEXUAL affairs between two consenting
adults continues to be looked upon as something dirty, unnatural & illegal?

For the record, as a monger, I am a feminist!

I believe that ALL women should have equal political, social,
SEXUAL, intellectual and economic rights to men.

Heck, IF I had been hanging out in the Garden of Eden,
I'd have eaten ALL the darn apples.

What this world needs is a an Army of highly-skilled SPA gurls,
and fewer pornographic PONZI bankers and puritanical politicians
pretending to be so-called professionals.

At what point will folks finally WAKE UP and realize that
the Emperor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes) has no clothes?

Until Next Time
Stay Safe and Happy Hunting!

PS
I'm still searching for a wingman to conduct some vital
research into the local KTV scene. But alas, it appears
I'm the only ISG monger in Changsha.

Loveasiangirls
03-19-09, 17:30
Chitrapa - Great! Entertaining and useful reports! I need to go there soon......

Arctic1
05-13-09, 13:08
Last week I spent two days staying with friends in the south part of Changsha. It was a little crowded, there being other guests besides myself. Hot water, for example, was sometimes scarce. I could have just stayed at a hotel, but my friends would have been offended. As a result, in the mornings I went to a nearby large, 24-hour standalone massage business on Shaoshan Nanlu, across the street and down a short distance from the Railway University. The place offers full-service, as well as differently priced tug jobs, from around 200 to 366 RMB. I selected the more costly tug job, which provides 70 minutes of massage, culminating with a happy ending. Number 81, a sweet 25-year-old from Chenzhou (in Hunan, three hours by bus) provided the service. She is quite thin, but well-proportioned, smallish breasts with nice nipples. At her instructions I stripped off the house-supplied PJs and laid face down on the bed. She removed her top and gave me a massage using her breasts. The first day the service was straightforward. We chatted amiably throughout the session. On the following day I returned and asked for Number 81. She was busy, so I had to wait. In the second session, I asked her to also remove her panties. "Why?", she asked. "I want to fondle your pussy." Funny! She took off her panties after putting a rubber on my forefinger. So I was caressing her pussy during the session, and she was getting a little wet. Then I could not resist licking her, which she liked a lot. The next thing I knew, she had put a rubber on Seymour and was sucking on him. Then she mounted me cowgirl style. I was not sure what the tariff would be when I went to pay, but it was only the normal tug job price.

Amadeuss
05-26-09, 16:21
Got stranded here for 4 days on biz. Was reading all previous monger reporsts and duly noted down the possible areas: be it near the Western Bus Terminal as well around the Huatien Hotel.

With a Chinese biz partner we started our mongering search. Huatien Hotel first. Walking around there...nada...nothing...asking locals...all pointed us to a bar street. But that was the hip hop scene of the youngsters. Nothing for old blokes as we are.

We gave up and took a cab to the Western Bus Station. Again..painful recee for 1/2 hour. Only highlight was the clean toilet of the KFC shop. At least something positive what American culture left here.
I wanted to give up. But my Chinese guy was horny like a poodle. No other choice then as to follow a cab-drivers advise to a massage place in a hotel. Back to town center. We inspected the first one, but papsan asking for 800, reduc ed to 700...bjut cheapos as we were that was above our limit. At the next, the pimp downstairs with the knob behind his ear was offering 400, upstairs in thinner air is increased to 495.... hmm.. Anyway, we took the offer. The room with all those gadgets like gyneology (?) chair, wrapping bands from the ceiling for the girl to perform the helikopter fuck and mirrors everywhere.
Performance of the gal was ok> hot and cold water sucking and licking, helicopter - bj, and then fucking like the rabbits. After 20 minutes the condom was running dry, changing, another 10 minutes with her moaning and gyrating to funally cum. Got 2 thumbs up form her. But she didnt understand that the reason of fuckling her for more then half an hour was her lofty pussy and that bloddy dry condom.

On the way home I spotted some pink lights and memorized a landmark> The Park Hotel and next door Motel 168. Following evening, on my own, got the name of that hotel written down in Chinese. Now guys, if anyone wants to follow that trail, its easy once you are at one of those hotels> just get out from the main door, turn left, walk approximatley 200 m along a wall on the left and a flyover on the right...and you will come to a road with shops and...yes barbershops, easily spot on their pink light. Just walk furhter with the elevated main road on your right, there are some 6 or 8 shops. All small with perhaps 3 or 4 girls max. I just walked into one, pointed on a girl in a red dress and no word changed she took me in the back to her room...cubicle. Just a matress..christmaslights along the wall...and we had a fabolous 1 hour. But before my pantscame off, she wasasking for the dough. 300....settled for 250 (I know I overpaid...but what de fuck, she was nice) Her pussy was tight and so the fucking was with more grip. She got into it with very erected nipples and a red face... after my first shot, she didnt stop me to get in again for an extended session.
At the end, 250 RMB well spend.

In general, Chinese girls are the strictest in using condoms. Most even for a BJ. And hardly any of them likes kissing. Best you can get with closed lips. They can be horny fucking machines - but over and off.....

Irv Washington
05-28-09, 09:52
I had good P4P recently using the massage in-call service at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Changsha.

I decided to use the hotel service as I didn’t have much time to explore other options in Changsha.

I went to the beauty parlour / massage centre (I think on the 5th floor) to meet the girls and see what was available.

The in-house service offered 1 hour massage for 200 RMB or 1 hour “special service” for RMB 700.

I chose the “special service”. The manageress showed me 3 girls who were available. The girls were all in their 20s. Not stunners but looks were fine and good bodies. :)

I chose 1 girl and arranged for her to come to my room. She was around 25 years old. The manageress assured me the price of 700 RMB was “fully inclusive” and the girl would not ask for extra tips. Later, I was a little surprised to find this was true!

The service in my room was very good.. She massaged my back and legs nicely for about 20 minutes (at my request). Then I turned over and the real fun began!

She gave me a nice “tongue massage” everywhere which was very nice! Then moved onto CBJ which she gave with great skill. Then FS in missionary and doggie style positions. After I popped, more nice massage to finish out my time.

The service was unhurried and the girl was in my room for more than 1 hour. I paid the agreed 700 RMB and I was surprised there was no request for extra money!

In summary, a good experience and I thought the price was reasonable given it was in an international hotel. Changsha has other options (which I didn’t have time to explore) but I was happy with the service I got for the price I paid.

By the way, the girls available for "regular massage" (200 RMB) were prettier. But FS not available from these girls. They offer massage. Possibly HJ for extra money, but not FS.

Irv

Irv Washington
05-28-09, 10:04
Western Bus Station highlight was the clean toilet of the KFC shop. At least something positive what American culture left here.



KFC is American culture? Thanks America! :)




On the way home I spotted some pink lights ..... yes barbershops, easily spot on their pink light. 300....settled for 250

At the end, 250 RMB well spend.



Sounds like you got good service in this BBS. Well done and thanks for the directions to this area. :) But 250 RMB seems high for a BBS in Changsha. Can anyone summarise the usual rates for BBS in Changsha?

Irv

Phenyl
06-30-09, 15:09
Recently stayed at the Vaya International Hotel. As with most hotels in China, if the word "international" is in the english name... it ain't international.

Anyway - nice hotel, but was not able to sort out if it was a friendly hotel. I went to the sauna and massage center, and it looked "respectable". Had an excellent foot massage session (with biz partner) in a VIP room on the the fourth floor. But - the girls were dressed in "no fooling around" style clothes although the VIP room had mirrors on the ceiling (for a foot massage???). The price list for the sauna didn't seem to go past about 300 RMB - so I'm wondering if FS is on the menue or if you have to know the secret password?

There is also a KTV on the same floor (did not check out, was with Chinese partner) so maybe there is some interesting action? Hopefully Chitrapa or some other fan of Changsha pussy can enlighten us as to to any action in the hotel or immediate environs. Looks like I'll be stuck out there and would certainly appreciate any helpful hints.

Also - Preess Hotel - any words of wisdom?

Cheers, Phenyl

Krum Lov
08-21-09, 11:28
All those excellent reports that Chitrapa and others have posted on the BBSs in chengnan street? Forget it. I was there 2 nights ago and walked up both sides twice.- once late afternoon, once around 9pm. Zip, nada, nuthin. There's a lot of work going on in that whole sretch and many shops are closed. Along, it seems with every BBS. Very disappointed as it was a one-off trip and I'll not be back. Again, there wasn't one BBS on that street. Just shuttered up shops and a lot of construction.

Completely dead.

Meiguoguizi
01-05-10, 13:15
chengan zhonglu is back in business now. and there is a new complex of bbs on the easternmost stretch, near the chezhonglu to the train station. prices remain at 200, unless you are a laowai, when they will ask for 300 and often be terrified.
I can recommend the 'tian long' hotel, right off changan. 250 or so for a room. inhouse 'sauna' on the 17th floor is 500 take out. some exceptional Yunnan talent, ask for Yue Yue, amazing body and technique, wears a stewardess outfit.
Not a great city for Westerners, was refused service on a regular basis. but the women are adorable and the prices are cheap.
all the taxi drivers know 'older' 30+ working girls who 'love to fuck' and are cheap, 150 or so. Changsha weather sucks. And the food will burn your ass for weeks.

Yellow Fever #2
01-19-10, 09:19
I visited this city and nature area with my Thailand gf a few days ago.

I noticed that there are pink lighted BBS around Zhangjiajie city. Unfortunately I did not have the time/pleasure to sample any of the local delicacies. I cannot report on prices or services.

There were no visible services available at Zhangjiajie village at the entrance to the national park.

The park is beautiful but should you need relaxation services you will have to visit the ZJJ city.

Pointpanic
01-19-10, 13:00
I also had no time to check out the pink lighted buildings but with all the Korean and Japaneses tourists around (very few Americans or whites) you know they had to have good service. I just used the blue suited mamasan that patrolled the lobby of the new Best Western who was great at bringing me groups of girls between 3-5 to select from every evening. Tried a tiny Miao girl with huge hooters who just smiled the whole time while blowing me. Very reasonable for tourist in room service at 300-400 tip included. Quite good selection and well dressed from Sichuan and Guanxi Province besides Hunan.

Point


I visited this city and nature area with my Thailand gf a few days ago.

I noticed that there are pink lighted BBS around Zhangjiajie city. Unfortunately I did not have the time/pleasure to sample any of the local delicacies. I cannot report on prices or services.

There were no visible services available at Zhangjiajie village at the entrance to the national park.

The park is beautiful but should you need relaxation services you will have to visit the ZJJ city.

WooVictor
02-24-10, 07:53
I was in Changsha in early January just for one night, staying at the Sheraton. To my dismay, it seemed that there was no special service on site. There was no nightclub or karaoke, and the both spa centre as well as the massage parlour (apparently attached to the sports centre) seemed to provide straight services with no hanky-panky. (While they could send their girls upstairs to the guestrooms, they closed down at 11pm, too early for someone like me who needs something special).

It was very cold that night when I ventured out after 11pm. I first sampled a massage parlour behind a small hotel on Furong zhonglu about two to three blocks from the Sheraton (sorry but forgot the names of both the hotel and massage joint). It was an all-suite establishment, with no public bath area. The manager brought the masseuses to my room two at a time, and after three rounds I decided I’d had enough and walked out. All six girls were quite old, about late 20s to mid-30s, and none of them beautiful.

It took me a while to grab a cab in the middle of the night, so I decided to go for a safe bet – the Dolton Hotel or 通程 (Tongcheng) in Chinese, at 159 Shaoshan north road. I had read about it a few years ago on some Chinese mongering forum. The massage parlour was on the third or fourth floor, and was again an all-suite establishment laid out just like the guestroom floors. A manager led me into a room just a few steps away from the reception area. The room was like a standard guestroom, but with a round bed in the middle of the room. There was also a sauna facility in the bathroom, though it was not turned on. Presently, the manager brought a girl to me, and I gladly accepted her because she looked just like my freebie girlfriend in Beijing a few years ago.

Li Dan was just over 20 years old and came from Zhangjiajie, a beautiful forest area in northern Hunan. She was quite pretty and very well built, but not fat, and was a bit taller than me. Unfortunately, unlike my ex-GF, her tits turned out to be smaller than they appeared. Oh, how I hate the wonder-bras.

Although quite inexperienced, Li was eager to please and showed no sign of displeasure even though I asked her for two additional rounds of AR. Sex with her was fine but nothing extraordinary. Total damage was 1,000 yuan, quite expensive for a four-star hotel in Changsha.

Eaglestar
03-17-10, 19:04
I just had an interesting yahoo messenger chat with a 50 year old woman who lives in changhsha. She used to travel to Shanghai during the time that I lived in Shanghai and I would see her when she was in town. She said she has not had sex in a long time and is really honking. Wanted me to send some of the pix I took of us and also some sex videos.

Hell of lady, loves western cock, high sex drive and still has a good body. I have some pix of us.

She is interested to find a western lover, 50+ years old who lives in changhsha or travels there.

Any SENIOR contributing members with interest PM me UR details and I will give U her web site info on AFF/cFF

ES

SE Asia Joe
03-18-10, 05:38
I just had an interesting yahoo messenger chat with a 50 year old woman who lives in changhsha. She used to travel to Shanghai during the time that I lived in Shanghai and I would see her when she was in town. She said she has not had sex in a long time and is really honking. Wanted me to send some of the pix I took of us and also some sex videos.

Hell of lady, loves western cock, high sex drive and still has a good body. I have some pix of us.

She is interested to find a western lover, 50+ years old who lives in changhsha or travels there.

Any SENIOR contributing members with interest PM me UR details and I will give U her web site info on AFF/cFF

ES
Actually ES.... this is quite sad.... for her, as well as for you.

Sorry I dont fit the bill as I ain't no Western Lover, +50 YO, otherwise......

Hey have you considered comng back to settle in China - not necessarily Shanghai if its become too expensive - but other locales.... like Changsha even - where the cost of living is way cheaper than Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen etc.

Just a suggestion

SEAJ

Mooris7
05-29-10, 05:55
Actually ES. This is quite sad. For her, as well as for you.

Sorry I don't fit the bill as I ain't no Western Lover, +50 YO, otherwise.

Hey have you considered comng back to settle in China. Not necessarily Shanghai if its become too expensive. But other locales. Like Changsha even. Where the cost of living is way cheaper than Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen etc.

Just a suggestion

SEAJThank you again old wise one. I sent you a little gift on another thread!

Jenevis
06-16-10, 16:07
Sad to see that there's not many reports for good locations here in Changsha. A place which I'm going to be staying for the next 2 to 3 weeks.

Am staying in HuaTian Hotel at the FuRong Zhong (Middle) Road, so I guess I'll do some checking around and hopefully, will be able to provide some more info for future visitors.

FYI. I read there's a beauty saloon/foot massage centre here on the 7th floor (I think) and its open till 3am, which is a bit uncommon for "clean" places to open until. Might check it out, might not because I know the prices will be at least RMB600, which I don't exactly feel its worth the money but we'll see

Might try some of the earlier posts (from 2005 at_at) that there's a barbershop nearby here. And might jz follow some of the tips here as well

If by any chance you're in the area, or will be coming over any time soon, let me know.

Just Seven
07-31-10, 14:05
I will be heading here in the near future, I have no idea where I will be staying or for how long, but I plan on rereading the thread for some ideas.

There was word of action near the train station, however, I do not know how many train/bus stations there are in this city!

Meiguoguizi
chengan zhonglu is back in business now. And there is a new complex of bbs on the easternmost stretch, near the chezhonglu to the train station. Prices remain at 200, unless you are a laowai, when they will ask for 300 and often be terrified.

I can recommend the 'tian long' hotel, right off changan. 250 or so for a room. Inhouse 'sauna' on the 17th floor is 500 take out.Botaki6


Pink lights and memorized a landmark The Park Hotel and next door Motel 168. Following evening, on my own, got the name of that hotel written down in Chinese. Now guys, if anyone wants to follow that trail, its easy once you are at one of those hotels just get out from the main door, turn left, walk approximatley 200 m along a wall on the left and a flyover on the right. And you will come to a road with shops and. Yes barbershops, easily spot on their pink light. Just walk furhter with the elevated main road on your right, there are some 6 or 8 shops. All small with perhaps 3 or 4 girls max. I just walked into one, pointed on a girl in a red dress and no word changed she took me in the back to her room. Cubicle. Just a matress. Christmaslights along the wall. And we had a fabolous 1 hour. But before my pantscame off, she wasasking for the dough. 300. Settled for 250Chitrapa has too much to quote and very entertaining, but I think his information may be too dated at this point.

Part of the fun is finding out for yourself, but knowing is half the battle!

Going to see if I can get some maps set up beforehand to make sure I am in the right area, but I do not think any of the sages from this thread still check it.

Love Da Asians
07-31-10, 19:20
Great place, Massage on the I think 5 floor, girl was great, you have to bargain with them some on details. I just told them tai gui le, my defining Chinese phrase, and they lowered the price down to 600 rmb for 90 minutes. They lead you to a room, they only bring in one girl at a time, but the first girl was good for me. They have those bars above the bed, so the girl can get a little creative on you. Of course, same routine as others, first shower, then she lays you down to inspect, after all is good we started. This girl made me cum so damn fast with her blowjob, I was amazed, sometimes bjs are hit and miss with these girls, but she had talent. CIM, also after I fucked her she liked it if I pull it out and com ein her mouth, to suck me off for a finish, would go there again for sure! Just the cost is high. I found some outcalls there, but I didn't try, the in hotel service was fine.

Bnlee2
08-01-10, 00:26
Just read a report on CNN asia that someone bombed the tax office in Changsha. Plus someone is blowing up the barbershops. It was probably an angry Chinese taxpayer but blowing up a barbershop, lets hope that it is just a regular barbershop and not one of special ones. It they blew up one of the specialize FS ones, that should be a death penalty offense with no right of appeal.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/31/china.tax.office.blast/index.html#fbid=uG0EwhoFmAE

Just Seven
08-02-10, 03:36
I have attached maps of the places I am going to check out based on the previous postings. If anyone wants to correct me or add some specifics let me know!

Meiguoguizi
08-03-10, 13:53
I have attached maps of the places I am going to check out based on the previous postings. If anyone wants to correct me or add some specifics let me know!
Ritz,
A few weeks ago I was in town and Chengnan Lu BBSs on the eastern most end are active, but on the west end of Chengnan Zhong Lu, near Furong Middle Road, I could only find one. It is on the south side, just before the end of the overpass, red lights in a cut-out door.
Tianlong 'sauna' is still in business, and the hotel is convenient for the Chengnan strolls.
Sorry I missed your arrival.

Jamie5063
08-03-10, 17:44
Just read a report on CNN asia that someone bombed the tax office in Changsha. Plus someone is blowing up the barbershops. It was probably an angry Chinese taxpayer but blowing up a barbershop, lets hope that it is just a regular barbershop and not one of special ones. It they blew up one of the specialize FS ones, that should be a death penalty offense with no right of appeal.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/31/china.tax.office.blast/index.html#fbid=uG0EwhoFmAE
The tax office one was in the local newspapers page 4 not as big a story as in CNN, must happen all the time. The barber shop was in Jilin probably a gas bottle blew up. Its a long way from Changsha so unlikely to be connected.

Just Seven
08-09-10, 10:20
Meiguoguizi are you in the area by any chance? Would love to meet up with a more experienced member to learn the ropes.

I don't have pm enabled but would Gladly put 20 us worth of rmb into your hand and have someone buy me a membership

Anyway a more specific question. As I don't have monger vision. I went to park city hotel. Turned left on the main road and then south on east 2nd ring road. I assume this is not the correct spot as I saw nothing. I will try heading east out of park city hotel main road although. I am still so confused looking at the map and trying to make sense of the locations mentioned. The hotels I can find easy enough. The bbs areas I cannot.

Anyway. Going to keep at it and if all else fails I'll swallow the extra 200 or so and just head to tian long hotel instead.

Meiguoguizi
08-10-10, 14:12
Meiguoguizi are you in the area by any chance? As I don't have monger vision. The bbs areas I cannot.
.

Unfortunately for me, I'm not.
The Changsha BBS are somewhat difficult to spot and there are no mommies or recruiters working the block. Routinely there are red lights but the door is usually closed; in the summer the girls may be clustered around the entrance. Walk by two or three times so they know what you are looking for and watch for their smiles.
If you are in doubt, you will be sure when you open the door to see the bored half-dressed gals around the TV.
If on the other hand, some fat shirtless guys are counting money on a table, just smile and say "Wo milu" /wɔ mi lʊ / - "I'm lost". And leave quickly.
I suggest you locate Changnan Dong Lu and go to the far east end. These are the most visible establishments.

Just Seven
08-11-10, 06:09
So I went walking around different sections and I happened upon a couple BBS I am including pictures of the street signs since google maps are not very useful in this situation.

Anyway, pink lights, girls sitting around looking bored. Didn't find out the prices but action still available. When I get some more unsupervised nighttime I will head back around.

Just Seven
08-11-10, 08:54
Pictures did not attach so resending them now.

these are pictures of the street signs for the BBS street I found.

Xiangchun Lu and Minzhuhojieyitiaojie

no thats not just me rolling around on my keyboard, thats the name of the tiny street.

BBS on either side of the street, in both directions. I saw at least 6 on my short walk.

Just Seven
08-13-10, 02:04
Walked from Chengnan Zhong Lu to Chengnan Dong Lu and up and down the side streets and end street. I am including a map with the relative locations of the different BBS I saw as well as the prices I was given as a Foreigner without any haggling since my mandarin is pretty much nonexistant.

I was offered prices from 130rmb to 200rmb.

I did not walk down any dark alleys or anything like that, even though Amiling Lu looks sorta dark, its a very well traveled road so nothing to worry about.

Each BBS had 5+ girls, they all had a Mamasan except the one at the end who had a Papasan.

The 130rmb BBS also had the Mamasan available for those of you who are into that.

There is no real reason to start walking anywhere other than the end of the street where Chengnan East Road meets Chezhan South Road.

In case anyone was wondering. Zhong. Middle Dong. East Nan. South Bei. North just so you can understand my google maps and pictures since I can't help but use both terms interchangeably.

I also included the street menu from the spa I think was mentioned by Chitrapa however, I am not certain as I did not go in but was beckoned from the street as I walked by it.

My next excursion will be back to Changsha Ave around East 2nd Ring Road.

Its too bad I don't have the with or charm of Chitrapa.

Tieji
08-14-10, 03:06
I also included the street menu from the spa I think was mentioned by Chitrapa however, I am not certain as I did not go in but was beckoned from the street as I walked by it.


At the risk of being a smart-arse, the photo you attached is not actually a menu of services but an advertisement seeking applicants for employment at the sauna (managers, doormen, cashier, etc). The RMB amounts are the monthly salaries for each of the job categories (plus "separate bonus is applicable").

Interestingly, no.5 is for jishi, literally "technician", but these days another code word for sex-worker. There is no salary listed, just the words "salary . . " (the end bit is unclear, presumably something like "salary scale available on enquiry"). This makes sense, since the girls are paid by commission only, whereas the other jobs there are presumably on a more regular footing.

The salaries are about average. It's clear that if business is good, a popular girl will take home more, probably a great deal more, than the other staff. An interesting little window into the sauna world.

Thanks for posting, even though it's exactly what you thought it was.

Just Seven
08-14-10, 07:08
At the risk of being a smart-arse, the photo you attached is not actually a menu of services but an advertisement seeking applicants for employment at the sauna.

Thanks for posting, even though it's exactly what you thought it was.

I cannot read a single word of Chinese. I assumed it was a menu due to its location!

Anyway, on to another report...

Due Diligence part 2 and other random ramblings

I did not get a chance to go to the Park Hotel area, but instead went back to Xiangchun Lu. (photos of the street signs are attached in a previous post) A map with red dots indicating BBS will be included with this post. However, I really feel that even if its your FIRST TIME EVER walking a street anywhere in the world, you will easily be able to locate the BBS on this street.

Again with my complete lack of mandarin skills ANYONE can do what I do or better. I also do not walk anywhere I feel I would be putting myself at risk. So if I can do it, you can do it!

This section of BBS was alot different the Chengnan DongLu. These places all offered the same type of service. 300 RMB for 3 Hours TAKEAWAY. The places were mostly packed with girls, the average BBS containing 7 girls, the most crowded (and most attractive) housed 12. Looks ranged from 5-8. If you dont like what one place has, walk down to the next shop.

I tried to explain that I did not have a hotel or anyplace to take the girls to and THREE of the shops told me that I could have the Mamasan IN the BBS for 340 rmb. I assume they were joking with me, so I told them (from the Words and Phrases thread) that I was a virgin and that she would break me.

My time spent IN the BBS was also amusing, one of the Mamasan actually tried to pimp me out to a guy that came in (or at least thats what I assume she was doing) I kindly told her 1000 for look look (kan kan), 3000 just for touch touch (mo mo). That got a good laugh out of everyone.

As for some other strange experiences on this street... A couple shops did not appear to have a Mamasan. After some broken discussion, more than one store said no make love for american because they are not good at it. I laughed and tried to explain, if the chinese man was good at it, why did he have to pay? However, i could not express the idea in words so I just relegated myself to mentioning it here instead :P

I also had several of the BBS mamasans do a squeeze test on my package before proclaiming "tai da". From what I have sampled in the area, that may just be the case, a gift in america, a slight curse in P4P china...


So after realizing that I was getting nowhere without a car or suitable hotel/apartment, I hopped a taxi back to Chengnan DongLu. Checked the merchandise at the 4 open shops, prices were still the same, 130-200 rmb. Again, no haggle foreigner price.

Weekend and weekday prices are the same.

In case anyone was wondering there appears to be a discrepancy between my "complete lack of mandarin" and the discussions I have with working girls / mamasans.

Google Translate + Crib sheet from the Words and Phrases thread
+ knowing the numbers 0-10, 100, 1000. Like I said, if I can do it, YOU DEFINITELY CAN.

As an aside, there were some girls I REALLY did want to take from the Da Bao BBS. But there is no way I can in good conscience pay more for a room than I do for the girl!

So can anyone recommend a girl friendly hotel near Xiangchun Lu that is very cheap?

I will also have to prepare a notecard with something along the following lines.

Please send this girl to ____ Hotel. Room #______. In half an hour.

Google Translate will probably fail me!

Will see if I can finally make it over to Park Hotel tonight!

Just Seven
08-17-10, 11:27
Due Diligence Part 3 or "no dogs, or foreigners"

Went over to the Park Hotel / 168 Motel Area to have a look. I have no photo editing software on this computer so this included map will just give you a general idea.

Advice on how to get there: Take a taxi to the Park Hotel. Walk WEST (heading out from the front of the hotel U-turn left.) When You see the freeway offramps and onramps, stay on the sidewalk and continue walking to the left. The first "street" you get to turn left.

The BBS here do not have the standard "pink lights" however it is very hard to mistake them for regular barbershops (there are both on this street). See a girl or several girls in sexy clothes looking bored? BBS. See lots of cut hair on the floor, don't bother unless you want a haircut.

There are many shops on both sides of the street so if you do not like what you see, keep going.

I visited about 7 of these shops and was given the same price and same answer every time. 30 rmb for half hour massage and handjob. 100 rmb for half hour massage and Russian/tittyfuck/breastpush. I was also told no FS by EVERYONE but overheard locals getting offered for 75rmb. I went so far as to offer 300rmb for FS to several of the WG but still no luck. Foreigners need not apply.

The "rooms" were small and cramped, a twin size "mattress" with enough space to stand next to the bed. But for the cheap thrill I suppose it works. Got a very nice cuddly girl for 30 rmb handjob, lackluster massage but its 30 rmb.

If you are Chinese, give it a shot and see if your luck is any better than mine, if you are a foreigner, aside from soaking up some local culture and a cheap handjob, I would not bother!

Still having the monger itch (no not that type of itch) I went back to the trusty Chengnan DongLu BBS (last one on the street, double glass doors with pink curtains. 150rmb for 40 minutes 1 pop.

I found out why foreigners get turned down alot. After getting into the session and starting to relax a bit I bottomed out in this WG and a shriek of pain like a banshee startled everyone, too deep. The session ended immediately with a now bleeding WG. She was a trooper and still offered to finish off the session, but I am not dealing with WG blood even with a condom, no thanks. The mamasan was quick to offer up another girl to finish up instead (I had frequented this place many a time during my short stay here) but it was time to go home.

As a side note, while walking TO Park Hotel, I did see a couple BBS strewn about on roads, again, no pink light, but WG and sliding glass doors, easy to spot. I think there were 3 on Chixin Road (map included)

This ends my mongering in Changsha for the near future, hopefully these reports help other people find what they are looking for!

Dragon419
06-03-11, 10:35
Stayed here a couple days on business. Nice hotel, good location. They're building a subway line next to the hotel so noise and traffic was a problem. Didn't have much time to check out the area and called the in house massage. Asked for the "beautiful girl" massage and for 600 rmb they sent one. First night's one was kind of a dead fish until I got into DATY. But they service you from the beginning with a shower together, nice massage and shower after the deed. Second night the spa asked if I wanted the 1900 rmb special, little too rich for my taste so took another 600 rmb beautiful lady. More lively but not as cute. All in all enjoyed my short stay.

Nobody Special
07-01-11, 13:35
Stayed in Zhuzhou recently for a few nights.

Invited a cute 24 year old QQ contact to supper.

It took only a few minutes to determine her english skills without a computer were near zero.

We had some laughs trying to chat with my hand held translator but that was it.

As soon as supper was finished she had to leave. Haven't heard from her since.

Oh well. So far 1 out of 2 for QQ.

Next night out walking at the shopping center and got befriended by a 21 year old.

She just asked where I was staying and maybe we could chat more later.

I continued my walk and she was waiting at the hotel for me upon arrival.

Went to the bar and listened to her sad story.

Mother died, abused by father, graduated university on scholarships.

Ran away from home now to avoid father and needed a place to stay.

She had no luggage or cell phone so I kind of believed her.

She was extremely intelligent but hyper.

Invited to stay over but she was a total cold fish.

Next day she played tourist guide and was really friendly.

Second night much better but no GFE.

Left on the 3rd day for greener pastures as I was leaving town.

Propapanda
08-26-11, 23:17
In July I checked in the Dacheng Hotel. Once checked I called the in house massage service. The lady told me there was some quantao (full) service massage which is very very very relaxing. Off course I understood her meaning (I. E. Real room service).10 minutes later 2 girls came in the hotel room. I had to choose 1. There is a possibility for a menage a trois. The one I chose had great tits and was very tight. After 1 hour of intensive room service I was satisfied. The next night I ordered her again.

Fast Eddie 48
09-05-11, 10:09
I just arrive in Changsha from Guangzhou by CRH take about 2 hr 30 min staying near the train station area not sure where the action are will check out some sauna and massage place tonight.

Fast Eddie 48

Master Monger
09-10-11, 05:36
Ok, so I got here and immediately I started to feel weary, people didn't seem all that friendly but girls were smiling at about 50% ratio. Better than 20% in Shenzhen I guess. I got a good hotel room next to Xifu Road and Yueyang alley because there were a few BBS's there, But the quality is not the greatest. Went Bar street and gave out a few name cards to a few girls then went to go find a WG around 2am and As I was looking bam one of the girls calls me to come to my hotel, cool freebie. Wasn't anything special but freebies are available, they are trying to improve the culture and manners of the people in Changsha so the WG are few and far between in Changsha. If you have to go there I recommend the Bus station that has about 10 BBS's Around it but they are very nervous there! I do have some great news about YiYang!

Monger On,

MM

Clandestine782
09-26-11, 16:56
If you go to some of the hotels here, they will have name cards that are places that furnish girls.

The numbers on the cards were like:

[Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

Only Chinese is spoken on these lines. They also knew that I had a foreign accent, and was afraid that I would hurt the girls. I got out of it by telling them that I was a Korean and looked just like a Chinese men- and could be mistaken for one but for my accent. (I'm a very tall black American, but the beauty of talking over the phone is that no one knows what you look like.)

They had three tiers of service. University student. Older than university student. Younger than university student. I chose the university student age (knowing that usually whatever girl they send it about 5 years older than what is stated). They wanted 500 for one time and I got her to 600 for 2 times (as it turned out, I was so disgusted after the first time that I gave her 500 and sent her on her way).

I made it very clear that I didn't want a girl with pubic hair that was missing FOR ANY REASON. The first girl that they sent me looked like Yoda (and was obviously a divorced woman) , but she insisted that she was a university student. I sent her away and she needed 30RMB for "taxi fare."

The second girl that they sent me was pretty decent looking (I am not picky, save for the constraints of not wanting too old or shaved / naturally hairless) and she had a really nice Bush. *Really*nice, but she got out a very uncomfortable strawberry flavored condom (with no lube). I'm not a fan of missionary, but after so much whining about doggy-style, she insisted that it had to be missionary and no other position. A trick that helps with condoms is to put some lube inside the condom, and that gives a bit more sensation. But don't you know it, this girl went and got some water from the bathroom to use as lube (you just got to love the Mainland Chinese girls who insist that water from the tap can serve the same function as lube). She also insisted that I didn't touch her vagina (so, no Odor Mementos with which to remember the visit a few hours later). Then, after I told her that she could go, she had the NERVE to ask me for another 30RMB for taxi. I told her no and sent her on her way.

This is actually the second time that I have used these outcalls. They both worked the same way both times- in that they sent me a girl the first time that was unacceptable who asked for taxi fare.

The girl that I met the second time was nice looking and had a nice body (although her pubic hair was a bit too sparse for my liking). I got her number and she said that she would meet me on her own time (and I have found that all three of the girls that I met were willing to give me their phone number and meet me under the mamasan's radar) , but she turned out to be flaky. When I wanted to meet at my apartment, she started asking for something like 700 for 2 shots (hahaha) and then whining about how it was too far away in a taxi (it was a 15 minute ride in the taxi and 32RMB going and another 32 coming). Finally, she said she was on her way, but flaked out. I called her phone two times and she clicked it over to busy. (Needless to say her number and all her contact information were instantly deleted from my phone. The purpose of paying for pussy is convenience, and the smallest movement in a direction that defeats that purpose is enough for a service provider to NEVER be called again.) Honestly- I wonder if hookers are hookers because they are too stupid to be anything else.

All in all, I would not recommend a repeat of this. (And it only took me 3 times to learn that.) It would work out cheaper to save your money and go to either Zhuzhou or Changde (Zhuzhou is about 15 minutes away by train) and Changde is 2 hours away- but it's a city that is far away enough that the prices / anonymity make up for it.

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Incecubuk
12-04-11, 15:57
Hello guys,

I need your help and suggestions.

I will be in Changsha about a week at the beginning of January.

I heard about very nice massage possibilities and also HJ, BJ, FS etc. For me, it is very important that the ladies have high quality and the cleanness of the places.

Can anyone advice me hotels with quality services in house. Or any sauna / parlour places where I can visit after a hard day of work? And also maybe guideliens for prices?

Many thanks!

Barrie55
01-04-12, 13:34
Anyone here has some experience in Liuyang? It's close to Changsha, so I think this is the right thread to ask this question.

Infomatic
01-09-12, 10:29
From my Chinese friends, Changsha is know in China for being the capital of SPA & Night-Clubs.

Lotsa free loaders in Clubs, and SWG are found around hotels, clubs, KTV; do not bother to try BBB's.

Remember this is NOT HK, SH or BJ, bargain 60% down from what you are asked for and settle at 50% of the original price.

Peipei
01-10-12, 05:39
From my Chinese friends, Changsha is know in China for being the capital of SPA & Night-Clubs.

Lotsa free loaders in Clubs, and SWG are found around hotels, clubs, KTV.Hey Infomatic, I'll be in Changsha this Thursday night. Can you give me the name of 1 or 2 good night clubs? Thanks.

I'm staying at the Sheraton on Furong Zhong Lu, so if I see any SWG around this hotel, I'll report back.

Infomatic
01-10-12, 22:09
I hope this link will make it.

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Asia/China/Hunan_Sheng/Changsha-1023757/Nightlife-Changsha-TG-C-1.html

This will be a good start, and I'll turn gay if you do not score@"Hooligan's Pub: American run bar"

Jacky12
01-20-12, 00:32
Staying in changsha from now until beginning of Feb due to work. Got alot of info from reading this forum, after the first night, I like to contribute.

Before we start, I am an americanized asian and I was able to get around just fine with a basic level of mandarin (very limited volcabulary) plus some help from google translate.

After reading Just Seven's Due Diligence part 2, I realized my hotel is just a 15min walk from xiangchun lu, so I decided to check it out. It was around 11:15pm when I got there. As Just Seven mentioned, the BBS did not have pink lights, but it's very obvious and hard to miss. About 7 BBS were open, each had between 3-7 girls. Looks (face) ranged between 6-8, there was a 9, but she seems to have a bitchy attitude. Age range from 19-27ish, but it's very hard to tell with these asians.

After speaking with them, they can easily tell that I was a foreigner, so I was quoted laowai prices, hard to bargain. Prices ranged from 150 for half hour to 400 for 3 hours, limited pops based on how much you pay. Unlike Just Seven's experience, all of these BBS had onsite rooms. Most of them were surprised that I wanted takeaway, I was concerned cause I saw 3 LE drive down this street.

The BBS on this street is def not non-asian friendly, all the girls I spoke to will not have sex with non-asians, and they were concerned that I was hired by a caucasian to do the negotiations when I asked about takeaway.

The girl that I picked was kind of shy in bed, unexperienced, no foreplay or BJ, just straight to business. Overall I was somewhat satisfied with the experience, but most likely will not repeat with the BBS on this street. I will check out chengnan lu on a future night and report here.

Let me know if anyone is interested in checking out some BBS with me, or even just to grab a beer. Leave me a message on this forum, and I will pm you with a different account.

Side note for first timers to China:

As an american I am used to seeing the private parts shaved, or something like a landing strip. Over here in China, I would say 95% of the girls leave it bushy, even the armpits, which is a huge turn-off for me.

Also, if you are trying to get a sense of what the average WG in China looks like by looking through the China gallery (which is what I did) , I can now tell you that the gallery does not do the girls here any justice. I swear, it seems like pics of only fuglies were posted, the girls here really do much better in person.

Jacky12
01-20-12, 00:36
Staying in changsha from now until beginning of Feb due to work. Got alot of info from reading this forum, after the first night, I like to contribute.

Before we start, I am an americanized asian and I was able to get around just fine with a basic level of mandarin (very limited volcabulary) plus some help from google translate.

After reading Just Seven's Due Diligence part 2, I realized my hotel is just a 15min walk from xiangchun lu, so I decided to check it out. It was around 11:15pm when I got there. As Just Seven mentioned, the BBS did not have pink lights, but it's very obvious and hard to miss. About 7 BBS were open, each had between 3-7 girls. Looks (face) ranged between 6-8, there was a 9, but she seems to have a bitchy attitude. Age range from 19-27ish, but it's very hard to tell with these asians.

After speaking with them, they can easily tell that I was a foreigner, so I was quoted laowai prices, hard to bargain. Prices ranged from 150 for half hour to 400 for 3 hours, limited pops based on how much you pay. Unlike Just Seven's experience, all of these BBS had onsite rooms. Most of them were surprised that I wanted takeaway, I was concerned cause I saw 3 LE drive down this street.

The BBS on this street is def not non-asian friendly, all the girls I spoke to will not have sex with non-asians, and they were concerned that I was hired by a caucasian to do the negotiations when I asked about takeaway.

The girl that I picked was kind of shy in bed, unexperienced, no foreplay or BJ, just straight to business. Overall I was somewhat satisfied with the experience, but most likely will not repeat with the BBS on this street. I will check out chengnan lu on a future night and report here.

Let me know if anyone is interested in checking out some BBS with me, or even just to grab a beer. Leave me a message on this forum, and I will pm you with a different account.

Side note for first timers to China:

As an american I am used to seeing the private parts shaved, or something like a landing strip. Over here in China, I would say 95% of the girls leave it bushy, even the armpits, which is a huge turn-off for me.

Also, if you are trying to get a sense of what the average WG in China looks like by looking through the China gallery (which is what I did) , I can now tell you that the gallery does not do the girls here any justice. I swear, it seems like pics of only fuglies were posted, the girls here really do much better in person.

Jacky12
01-26-12, 18:17
Alright so I checked out chengnan road and the few alley ways around it on 2 seperate nights to see if it lives up to the hype. I do realize right now is a bad time due to the Chinese new year holidays.

I can confirm that chengnan middle road as of right now has absolutely nothing going on. Most of the action is on chengnan east road near chezhan (bus stop) south road.

Starting at the intersection on chezhan south road and chengnan east road, head west on chengnan east road. Within 200 meters, there are 6 bbs, each had 2-4 shaojie, looks range from 3ish – 8, age is probably 20ish – 50something LOL, those were the 3s. Picked one I liked, rate was $230, I didn't bother with trying to bargain. She was quite talkative, and very friendly. No BJ or massage, straight to business, service was a little rushed. However overall, I was quite satisfied due to the price as well as her personality and looks.

Continue walking west on chengnan east road, take the first possible left into a well lit alley way. I believe its called amiliang road. Not 100% sure. This alley way was very interesting. Along with bbs, if you look for it, there are pink lights coming from people's apartments (ground level) I just looked inside, didn't actually go in, the 3 that I saw all had only 1 lady in it. There were also 2 sex shops open with pink lights as well.

Walk all the way down the alley, there are about 4 bbs, each had around 6-7 shaojie, all looked about 7ish, age 19-mid 20s (or so I thought). The laoban were all standing outside and were quite pushy (in a friendly way) in trying to get me to look inside. Decided to go for one, they asked for 250, talked it down to 200. She took me upstairs and thats when the troubles began.

She looked young (I thought maybe 19) , had no idea what she was doing, not only was the condom too tight, she put it on backwards on the first try. Then she said I was too big. I mean see'mon, I'm asian, my P*S is 5 inches at best, although it is wider than most. After I try to put it in, I realize she was telling the truth. It was very tight, going in and out was rather difficult. So I decided to ask for her age, she says (in mandarin) 'I will be turning 17 this year'. I, myself, is in my earlier 20s, but still after hearing that, I think my P*S inverted.

There was no way I could finish, so we just talked for a bit, she turns out to be a pretty nice girl, very interested in me and what I had to say about western culture. There was something about her that I liked. I had plans to go shopping the next day, so I asked if she would like to accompany me, I figured she would be a great help since I can't read Chinese, nor do I know Changsha very well, and quite awful at bargaining LOL. She agreed and was very quick in putting her # in my cell. Funny thing is I offered to pay for her company, but she refused the money, said she wanted to go shopping anyways.

Hope my experiences will help you guys, and sorry for the double post below, I don't know how to delete it.

Mmlouie
01-26-12, 18:52
As an american I am used to seeing the private parts shaved, or something like a landing strip. Over here in China, I would say 95% of the girls leave it bushy, even the armpits, which is a huge turn-off for me.Haha, Chinese believed that it is bad luck to the man when they shaved or trimmed, they also believed the more hair you have. The strong the sex drive. If you believed in all that!

Mmlouie

Clandestine782
01-26-12, 21:58
Shaved vagina is AWFUL. Yet another reason to stay out of the United States. I hope that the tradition of bushwhacking NEVER comes to China. It's bad enough when you find a white tiger.

Niteluvr
01-26-12, 23:54
Shaved vagina is AWFUL. Yet another reason to stay out of the United States. I hope that the tradition of bushwhacking NEVER comes to China. It's bad enough when you find a white tiger.Well, I'm glad my former Chinese girlfriend shaved her Bush completely. I could see from the outline that it would be huge if she let it grow, plus she had enormous pussy lips and was a squirter. With that combo, her Bush would have been messy most of the time. It's also not good to have a hairy busy when webcamming as the pussy is harder to see.

Bnlee2
01-27-12, 05:12
Shaved vagina is AWFUL. Yet another reason to stay out of the United States. I hope that the tradition of bushwhacking NEVER comes to China. It's bad enough when you find a white tiger.I prefer "white tiger". I do not tell them to shave it, I do leave my shaver openly in the bathroom and make it known that I prefer a smooth pu$$why. I leave it up to them to decide.

I really do not like to have fur balls blocking my airways.

AsnDragon
01-27-12, 09:42
I like natural white tigers. Girl's who hardly have any hair down there naturally.

But if they do need to get rid of hair down there, I would prefer them not to shave, but laser and zap the hair for permanent removal, so that there are no bumps and pricks when the shaved hair comes out.

Shaving is bad, I'd rather they zap it with laser.

AsnDragon.


I prefer "white tiger". I do not tell them to shave it, I do leave my shaver openly in the bathroom and make it known that I prefer a smooth pu$$why. I leave it up to them to decide.

I really do not like to have fur balls blocking my airways.

Member #4144
01-27-12, 12:37
Shaved vagina is AWFUL. Yet another reason to stay out of the United States. I hope that the tradition of bushwhacking NEVER comes to China. It's bad enough when you find a white tiger.This whole shaving thing has to do with older girls. For gilrs under 22, the hairs are so short and thin that I cannot imagin anyone would notice that they are there. I understand if the Bush had grown so much that you don't really see fertile ground, it might be a problem for some people.

Fillmore

AsnDragon
01-27-12, 20:38
Fillmore,

Apparently, you have not seen enough girls. I've seen girls who were only 18 and 19 with a hairy Bush down there! The hair was hard and thick as well like a mature woman. They even showed me their I'd card and they were in fact only 18 and 19. Some girls are just scary hairy down there. Not to mention hairy legs and armpits as well. It's just genetics.

AsnDragon.


This whole shaving thing has to do with older girls. For gilrs under 22, the hairs are so short and thin that I cannot imagin anyone would notice that they are there. I understand if the Bush had grown so much that you don't really see fertile ground, it might be a problem for some people.

Fillmore

Member #4144
01-27-12, 20:56
Fillmore,

Apparently, you have not seen enough girls. I've seen girls who were only 18 and 19 with a hairy Bush down there! The hair was hard and thick as well like a mature woman. They even showed me their I'd card and they were in fact only 18 and 19. Some girls are just scary hairy down there. Not to mention hairy legs and armpits as well. It's just genetics.

AsnDragon.You got me on that one, Dragon, it was indeed my limisted exposures to Chinese girls. In fact, all the girls I have had, almost without exception, were all from the same region of China, between Hunan-Hubei-Sichuan, so at least for all those spinners from this area, I have never seen them hairy, but below 22, they were usually like babies down there.

Fillmore

Bnlee2
01-28-12, 05:33
I like natural white tigers. Girl's who hardly have any hair down there naturally.

But if they do need to get rid of hair down there, I would prefer them not to shave, but laser and zap the hair for permanent removal, so that there are no bumps and pricks when the shaved hair comes out.

Shaving is bad, I'd rather they zap it with laser.

AsnDragon.AsnDragon.

I totally agreed with laser treatment. It looks and the feel is much better. Less bumps and the permanent removal is better.

ShangHangin
01-28-12, 16:56
You got me on that one, Dragon, it was indeed my limisted exposures to Chinese girls. In fact, all the girls I have had, almost without exception, were all from the same region of China, between Hunan-Hubei-Sichuan, so at least for all those spinners from this area, I have never seen them hairy, but below 22, they were usually like babies down there.

FillmoreWhile shaved is nice, a good manicured Bush is better. In fact, I prefer to do the trimming. Makes it a good start to a session leading right into DATY. I have found a number of willing participants. Dragon has got me on the laser thing.

SH

AsnDragon
01-28-12, 21:54
Bnlee2,

I think not having much hair down there is a total turn on! Japanese people prefer pubic hair for some reason it's part of their culture, which I find a bit strange. However, not having hair down there on girls also helps with hygiene as well. Yes, I know the pubic hair is suppose to help catch dirt etc, but having no hair down there actually helps the girl maintain their hygiene, especially during summer.

There have been times when during the humid summer heat, girls sweat and when they take a shower they aren't very diligent at cleaning down there. You still taste this saltiness down there. Not to mention that if the girl is hairy all that hair gets caught up in your throat when DATY on the girl.

Zap it with laser and make it smooth. But please. Don't shave. Those bumps and prickly hair growth is just not appealing.

AsnDragon.


AsnDragon.

I totally agreed with laser treatment. It looks and the feel is much better. Less bumps and the permanent removal is better.

Bnlee2
01-29-12, 04:43
Bnlee2,

I think not having much hair down there is a total turn on! Japanese people prefer pubic hair for some reason it's part of their culture, which I find a bit strange. However, not having hair down there on girls also helps with hygiene as well. Yes, I know the pubic hair is suppose to help catch dirt etc, but having no hair down there actually helps the girl maintain their hygiene, especially during summer.

There have been times when during the humid summer heat, girls sweat and when they take a shower they aren't very diligent at cleaning down there. You still taste this saltiness down there. Not to mention that if the girl is hairy all that hair gets caught up in your throat when DATY on the girl.

Zap it with laser and make it smooth. But please. Don't shave. Those bumps and prickly hair growth is just not appealing.

AsnDragon.Over twenty years ago, you rarely find a smooth pussy in China. But now you are beginning to find more of them. You are finding more of them keeping them smooth. Nothing better than spending the evening DATY and enjoying it with a nice glass of wine. Laser do make it look and feel better on them. Even though several members disagree about the smooth look.

Most of the gals that I introduce the art of DATY loves it after trying it.

AsnDragon
01-29-12, 22:00
Bnlee2,

Smooth is the way to go. Hairless is the way to go, but I DO NOT like them shaved at all.

I mean which girl doesn't like DATY? The only ones I can think of are, the ultra traditional girls, and also the ones that have a smelly pussy, so they are self conscious about their smell down there and about themselves.

But then again, would you DATY an ultra smelly pussy?

AsnDragon.


Over twenty years ago, you rarely find a smooth pussy in China. But now you are beginning to find more of them. You are finding more of them keeping them smooth. Nothing better than spending the evening DATY and enjoying it with a nice glass of wine. Laser do make it look and feel better on them. Even though several members disagree about the smooth look.

Most of the gals that I introduce the art of DATY loves it after trying it.

Nobody Special
01-30-12, 15:40
Zhuzhou BBS's on the same street at the Huatian hotel, out the door to the right as previously described.

Most are past their prime MILF's.

Last BBS on the right seems the only one with young girls.

After a couple of visits Mamason would drag me in each time she had a new girl.

Most were okay.

One was crazy! First she didn't want to go upstairs with me but mama insisted.

While undressing the couple in the next room were grunting and groaning like pornstars.

We had trouble not laughing.

Great BJ and Soon enough she climbs on top, with great effort gets it in and instantly she comes.

After that she just rode me like a bucking bronco with no rush to stop.

I had time to come twice.

Now if I walk by the BBS she runs out and drags me in. (and I let her)

The last few weeks she comes to my hotel room and spends the night and I get freebees.

Best part: I am overweight mid fifties no Mandarin skills.

She is 26, cute as a can be and no english skills. Humps like a rabbit.

God I love China.

Foreigner BBS price was 200rmb. 300rmb for the first time take away.

I didn't negotiate.

Shikkar
02-01-12, 14:10
Zhuzhou BBS's on the same street at the Huatian hotel, out the door to the right as previously described.

Most are past their prime MILF's.

Last BBS on the right seems the only one with young girls.

After a couple of visits Mamason would drag me in each time she had a new girl.

Most were okay.

One was crazy! First she didn't want to go upstairs with me but mama insisted.

While undressing the couple in the next room were grunting and groaning like pornstars.

We had trouble not laughing.

Great BJ and Soon enough she climbs on top, with great effort gets it in and instantly she comes.

After that she just rode me like a bucking bronco with no rush to stop.

I had time to come twice.

Now if I walk by the BBS she runs out and drags me in. (and I let her)

The last few weeks she comes to my hotel room and spends the night and I get freebees.

Best part: I am overweight mid fifties no Mandarin skills.

She is 26, cute as a can be and no english skills. Humps like a rabbit.

God I love China.

Foreigner BBS price was 200rmb. 300rmb for the first time take away.

I didn't negotiate.Nice report mate.

Yhea we all foreigners love China. We are all casanova once we get in here!

RolandOrzab
02-04-12, 14:49
Staying in changsha from now until beginning of Feb due to work. Got alot of info from reading this forum, after the first night, I like to contribute.

Let me know if anyone is interested in checking out some BBS with me, or even just to grab a beer. Leave me a message on this forum, and I will pm you with a different account.You still in Changsha? I'm here until February 10th, also an American-born Chinese in early 20's.

RolandOrzab
02-06-12, 20:34
went out tonight looking for bbs for my ever p4p excursion. ended up being a letdown, but here's my report anyway:

headed for chengnan dong lu as per jacky and seven's reports, it was walking distance from the apartment i'm staying at. while walking there, saw two bbs on an unnamed street with 2-3 girls each. didn't go in, but could see from the windows they looked to be in their early 30s.

reached the south end of amiling lu and walked up to chengnan dong. saw 4-5 bbs and a toy shop. couldn't see into any, drapes were closed and didn't have the courage to waltz in just yet. walked east down chengnan dong and saw some more pink lights, but same thing, couldn't see in and still was feeling hesitant. reached the end and turned around, heading back for amiling lu.

i wasn't in a "i am a sex god, must sex everything" mindset at this point and was losing my nerve, so i told myself i'd just go into the very next one i see and pop my p4p cherry. walked into the first one on the left. two girls there (early 30s) and a laoban / papasan / whatever. the laoban looked up, glanced at me, told me to pick one, and went back to what he was doing. the two girls were average at best, neither were headturners. i'd give them both a weak 6/10. but fuck it, i was in the bbs and i wasn't backing out, so i picked one. one was tall and skinny, one had a fuller figure. my current girlfriend is tall and skinny, so i went with the chubby one, who was prettier anyway.

nobody said anything about price, she just grabbed two towels and led me to the back where there were several rooms. the room had a shitty shower and a shitty bed, but nothing was visibly dirty. after she closed the door, she told me the rate was 200 rmb for 45 minutes. i didn't bargain. or ask what the 200 rmb entailed, which turned out to be just a fj, not fs.

clothes came off, i had a quick rinse (she didn't) , and we got in bed. and here we run into a pretty big roadblock: i can't get an erection. i have an often difficult relationship with my dick. mostly he refuses to pop when he really ought to. but i very seldom have issues with getting him to stand at attention. he is a romantic though, he likes to be wined and dine and loves intimacy, so this p4p fj scenario is very foreign to him. i tried to coax my dick into action, but he just wasn't having it. my 45 minutes was spent alternating between trying to get an erection and talking to the wg. she mentioned the going rate for fjs in changsha is 150-238 rmb, although higher on this particular night because it's a holiday.

with like 5 minutes to go, my dick finally agrees sex is an agreeable idea. too late for that though, but she starts giving me a hj and she tells me to come on to the towel, i try to make the case for cob but she's not having it. didn't foresee a pop coming up anytime soon. and then the laoban yells that time is up, so that was the disappointing end of it.

not exactly a magical p4p first experience for me. given my history with my dick, i'm thinking i might need gfe or at the very least fs, not sure these bbs fjs are going to do it for me unless i find an 8/10. definitely can be more selective now that i've had my p4p cherry popped and i've gotten over the initial hurdle of hesitation. in any case, i'll be back out there tomorrow night.

RolandOrzab
02-08-12, 20:17
walked up to amiling lu again, but there was a le officer walking around the front of the first several bbs, so i turned around and looked elsewhere. on shuguang zhong lu, there were a few bbs rep001tered about, but i didn't see any girls inside other than one lone girl hula hooping in the window. headed back to the unnamed street where i had saw a bbs the other day. i saw three girls and a mamasan sitting inside, so i headed in.

when i got in, they asked me "ni shi lai zuo ma?" or are you here for sex? i said yes, and they told me the rate was 150 rmb for 45 minutes and to pick a girl. didn't negotiate price, as 150 rmb was what i was prepared to pay anyway.

picked the hottest girl of the three, a good 8/10. went upstairs to a shitty room, no shower, and i imagine a pretty filthy bed. undressed and ran into my favorite problem: couldn't get an erection. finally got it up and started going at it. i started missionary and she didn't even make an attempt to pretend to enjoy it, terrible lay. i thought it might be better if she got on top, but that was a stupid assumption. she didn't know what she was doing and after a minute of just pounding my bladder with her hips, i lost my wood. tried to get it up again but the whole situation was way unsexy, she was curled up because she said it was cold and wouldn't look me in the face. she told me the other girl had better "gong fu" or more skill, so i told her to call that girl up.

second girl comes up, face was 5/10 but she got undressed and dayum, that body was 8/10. couldn't tell downstairs because everybody's wearing big-ass down jackets. and she knew how to put on an act, holy shit. got me hard as a rock, put the condom on me, and then rode me to completion. the whole thing took like 5 minutes, tops. i was thoroughly impressed.

lesson learned: hotter doesn't mean better.

price was 150 rmb for a 45 minute session, but it's just a straight fuckjob with no bj and it's in a that backroom with highly suspect sanitation.

Nobody Special
02-12-12, 15:27
Anybody have telephone numbers for service providers in Changsha?

It does nothing but rain here.

Nobody Special

Nobody Special
03-05-12, 05:44
Nice report mate.

Yhea we all foreigners love China. We are all casanova once we get in here!Trust me, I'm no Casanova but my story continues.

BBS girl visits me a few times and it always gets better.

She brings wine and snacks and we party all night. My cost ZERO!

Calls me one day, mid afternoon to come over.

I reply no I'm at work.

Arrive at about 9:00 pm at the hotel and she's there.

Seems her BBS got raided in Zhuzhou and she was on the run hiding from the cops.

What can I say, I took her in for a week before returning to America.

Minimum twice a day. For these old bones it was tiring.

But how to say no to a girl stroking your dick in the middle of the night.

Nobody Special

Clandestine782
04-09-12, 19:40
this trip was. interesting.

i've decided to write zhuzhou completely off.

briefly:

i decided to go to zhuzhou because i remember that years ago it had a nice little series of places along one street where you could get good service for a good price. i have been back one time since i lived there (for a short time) working at a ghetto school, but the places had closed down. on that first time that i went back, i didn't find anything. i thought that may have been because i was rushed.

step #1. i took an illegal taxi from the train station in changsha (they have those leaving all the time). if we had been able to find 4 people, it would have worked out to 30 rmb per person, but the driver was willing to take the 3 of us (customers) for 40rmb each. the reason that i was willing to let go of the extra 10rmb was in order to save the time. i think we got in the car at 9pm, but only arrived in zhuzhou at 10:30 (i have found that it is better to get to mongering places about 9ish. that's neither too early nor too late.) this driver must have had the iq of a lemon. he had to go and pick up another passenger, and it took a lllooonnnggg time and took a lot of discussion and phone calls (even though the place was only about 3 miles from the train station). finally, we got on the road and got moving. keep in mind that this city is only about 50km from changsha. at the rate of 100km / hour (60mph) , it should take about 30 minutes to get there.

step #2. i went to look at the places that were said to be available (as posted on this board) , but they were not there. there were no bbs "to the right of huatian hotel." not one. there were two bbs there, and they had some so-so looking women there. i opened up a hotel room and invited a decent looking girl back to my room (it was, like. 200m from the bbs-that-was-not-to-the-right-of-huatian-hotel). but there were a couple of problems, and we didn't even get past the first step of negotiations. (she said that her pubic hair was sparse. i hate shaved women or women who are missing their pubic hair for *any* reason.) she wanted 500rmb for 2 times. so, all things considered, i just couldn't see paying that much money (plus 286 for a hotel room) for covered sex with a girl who was nervous and claimed to only have a very little bit of pubic hair. she had the nerve to ask for taxi fare back to the bbs. she didn't get it.

step #3. i did the tried and true method: asking a taxi driver. he took me to some places behind the train station (14rmb from the mini hotel and the bbs-that-were-not-to-the-right-of-huatian-hotel) , but it turned out that they were legitimate massage. they had some nice looking girls there. one of the girls was sitting in the loft, and i would like to have take her, but it turns out that she was the boss' daughter. oops. as i left out, a motorcycle driver said "oh, i know what you are looking for, and you won't find it here. give me 15rmb, and i'll take you to where you can get what you need."

step #4. i got on the motorcycle with him, and we went some distance. this is where it got strange. we went to one particular street (that you would not have known contained houses of ill repute, because there was no marker of any type). there were several police at the mouth of the street (it was not an intersection and more like a 3 way that you had to pass these men to get through). there were, like. 7 of the police officers. but they didn't have the same uniforms as the other police that you see in your neighborhood. (they're not the people that you meet when you're walkin' down the street. they're not the people that you meet each day.) the driver talked us past them (it took surprisingly many words to get us through-i was later to find that they were checking for people's identification) , and then we went into a place. there were about 12 girls there- and they were all rather mature and well past their prime. some of them were pretty rough. (i had just been weightlifting earlier and that is a good way to dampen your sex drive. if you are feeling ready to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the statue of liberty, just throw a few hundred pounds up on the bench press and you won't anymore.) these women were afraid of me and didn't want to go (which was just as well, since they were instant erection killers). i was able to deduce that they were bottom end hookers that catered to construction workers. so, i got out of there (much cooled off). the motorcycle driver said to me: "if you couldn't find a woman here, then you won't find one anywhere" and i believed him. so, zhuzhou is off my list of places to go. the good times that i had here are gone forever.

Nobody Special
04-13-12, 18:20
This trip was. Interesting.I've decided to write Zhuzhou completely off.

Went out after seeing your report.

Within 1 block of Huatian 4 BBS's.

Only 1 has young girls and its the farthest away.

Also found 3 down by the river 1 block to the left.

Better luck finding greener pastures in Changsha.

Nobody Special

Fast Eddie 48
04-14-12, 03:53
I've decided to write Zhuzhou completely off.

Went out after seeing your report.

Within 1 block of Huatian 4 BBS's.

Only 1 has young girls and its the farthest away.

Also found 3 down by the river 1 block to the left.

Better luck finding greener pastures in Changsha.

Nobody SpecialTo Nobody

Before 2008 there are many BBS in Changsha and Zhuzhou no problem doing girl at the BBS for 100-150 rmb, major crack down closed most of the bbs and sauna like most major city in China is harder now days to find actions.

Fast Eddie 48

Nobody Special
04-19-12, 16:12
Got roped into a new KTV next door to the Changsha Sheraton while out walking.

Only had been open 3 days they said.

300rmb sitting fee. Stage show with dancers, singers and pole dancing.

Pay as you go for drinks so felt safe. 180rmb for 6 beers.

End of the night invited the girl home only to be told its not that kind of place. WTF?

Beware

Gladiatorsher
04-21-12, 07:20
Hey guys,

Will be in Changsha end of May, can any of you guys help with contacts of any cuties. Or any place where I can go and have fun. I'll be staying around Jinxing Middle Road, Yuelu District, Changsha.

Clandestine782
05-10-12, 16:17
Here in Changsha, a lot of hotels have cards with pictures of women. You can call them and a Mamasan will answer you and send you someone over to your room. These places are a bit more expensive than BBS, and my experience with these numbers has always been nearly universally bad. (My central issue has been that: I don't know if these girls come from BBS at twice the price. They also want taxi for for the first girl that send, who invariably looks like Yoda. And a lot of them have had a bad service / attitude. As I age, pussy is becoming worth less to me, and I am just not willing to pay that much money for bad / rushed service).

I will give you an example of a sample search:

http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%B3%A4%C9%B3%B3%F6%CC%A8%D0%A1%BD%E3&pn=0.

I went to the website www.baidu.com, and entered the words "&38271; &27801; &20986; &21488; &23567; &22992;" (the characters are "chu / tai / xiao / jie" and mean "outcall hooker" or "out / platform / small / sister" and I got dozens of listings. Here is the interesting part. Most of them had already been taken down by the censors, but for some reason the numbers were such that you could read them well enough to call them. And do you know what? Someone answered. Only Chinese is spoken on those lines.

It's very likely that these numbers were of the same type that you find in a hotel room. The only difference is that: 1. You don't have to open a hotel room to find that they may (or may not) be there; 2. There's a good variety of numbers. (If the person on the line does not want to deal with a foreigner, then it is very easy to call another one) ; 3. A lot of these numbers in the hotel rooms have different number and ostensibly different advertisements, but in point of fact they go to the same Mommy. Once they find out that you are a foreingner (I have successfully pretended to be a Korean) , then they want to play price hockey. But if they pull that shit, in this case, then you have several different service providers from whom you can choose.

This is not a detailed report, but every little bit helps, bruvvers.

Clandestine782
05-12-12, 09:39
I talked to a couple of those numbers and what I found was this:

#1. Had a very heavy local accent (people here speak Xiang or mix words of Xiang with Mandarin and it sometimes turns out wrong). The woman said to me something like: "dlkjsdfjlsdflj; safjsdfjlsdaf; ljk" and then hung up the phone. I called back to ask for clarification, and she said "sdfjsdfjsdfajdsfjlsadflj; .200RMB for members" and then hung up again. So, since she was rude that was more business that she was not going to get.

#2. I called another number, and the woman told me that I would need to deposit some money in the ATM first. They said that they had prices to agree on for different levels of service. The range was from 500 to 800 (for a "model") for overnight. I told her that I wanted a 700RMB girl. I sent the specifics in Chinese in a text message (basically, I didn't want an old woman or a woman with pubic hair that was missing *for any reason* and if the woman had an abundant Bush, that would be nice, too). We had some miscommunication, and I thought that she wanted 150RMB deposited in the ATM and then I would give the balance upon seeing the girl. The reason that I was willing to do this is because I thought that this was their way of screening to make sure that I was not a police officer trying to raid them. (It made sense at the time.) So, I found out that the ATM did not accept 50RMB notes (It was the China Construction Bank. Often the Bank of China ATM *does* accept 50RMB notes). So, I put in 100RMB and called her back and told her that 100 was all I could get into the ATM (I was not willing to give 200). She said that she would need more.

I told her that there were two options at this point: 1) She could give me an addres, and I would go there and pay the money in person and claim the girl at that point; 2) She could send the girl with a driver and I would give the money to the driver and he could confirm with her at the point of service. She said that it "wasn't convenient." I bid her goodnight and considered that 100RMB spent learning a lesson. So, if 1, 000 brothers don't make the same mistake, then all is well. It only cost 1 mao for each lesson. I don't feel so bad.

Really, this should not surprise me. I remember years ago mentioning to a woman that I was going for an interview at a school (which was actually called "CC English") and gave her my number. Later that night, she called me boo hoo hooing about how her daughter had gone to "TT English school" to try to find me (at 9pm) and could I please give her some money to try to find the girl. After she found out that she was not going to get any money out of me (even after so much Oscar-winning boo hooing) , she finally went about her business.

Nobody Special
05-15-12, 15:01
Got roped into a new KTV next door to the Changsha Sheraton while out walking.

Only had been open 3 days they said.

300rmb sitting fee. Stage show with dancers, singers and pole dancing.

Pay as you go for drinks so felt safe. 180rmb for 6 beers.

End of the night invited the girl home only to be told its not that kind of place. WTF?

BewareHostess called me to go back she had found another girl who spoke better english.

New girl explains everything pretty well.

300 rmb is the sitting fee. It includes 9 minutes of lap dancing.

+20rmb for every 3 minutes of lap dancing in a curtained off area in the back.

No sex on site. Its up to the individual girls what they want to do after.

She tells me she can make 1000rmb a night just for the groping / lap dancing sessions.

Unmarried sex not acceptable for traditional girls but lap dancing is ok? Go figure.

Actually encouraged me to have a few dances with other girls.

Expensive but fun.

Nobody Special

Sosuero
06-04-12, 04:26
I would kindly ask if somebody know where I can go there for some action. May SPA or Sauna. I will stay there 6 weeks and hope I will get some information.

Thanks from Sosuero

Worshick
08-14-12, 06:17
I am soon travelling to Changsha. My meeting is however in Xiang Tan, a smaller city close to Changsha. Distance is said to be an hour by taxi. I assume I can expect to find a normal Chinese mongering environment in that city but which is better option:stay in Changsha and go Xiang Tan for the meeting or stay in that city and have an option visit Changsha in case of emergency?

Anybody been there? Any recommendations for a hotel and places?

Mek111
08-29-12, 20:44
I'll be in Changsha for several days next week, staying at the Mingcheng Hotel. I've looked over the past reports and have some ideas, but because some of the reports are dated, I'm wondering if anyone could do a favor and share some up-to-date info on either BBS or (preferably) good outcall service to visit me in my room.

Thanks in advance.

MEK111

Blacklisted
05-18-13, 05:16
Your posting style is hilarious dude. Very entertaining. Beers on me if we ever cross paths!


I talked to a couple of those numbers and what I found was this:

#1. Had a very heavy local accent (people here speak Xiang or mix words of Xiang with Mandarin and it sometimes turns out wrong). The woman said to me something like: "dlkjsdfjlsdflj; safjsdfjlsdaf; ljk" and then hung up the phone. I called back to ask for clarification, and she said "sdfjsdfjsdfajdsfjlsadflj; .200RMB for members" and then hung up again. So, since she was rude that was more business that she was not going to get.

Nobody Special
12-05-13, 06:22
Recently had a short stay in Zhuzhou.

Stayed at the Ambassador hotel in the center of business district.

First night had an ordinary foot massage to get the lay of the land.

Second night went back. The guy at the elevator recognized me and wanted to bring me back to foot massage.

I indicated I wanted to go upstairs 1 floor and immediately he whipped out a card with 3 prices. 498, 598, 1198 rmb.

I choose 598 and had a great session with a PYT of about 20.

I must have been her first foreigner as she asked for my picture.

No English spoken but it wasn't an issue.

Nobody Special
03-11-14, 11:43
Made a whirlwind pass threw Zhuzhou and Changsha and things are dead.

All sauna's, bbs closed. One high-end KTV offered me a takeout girl for 2000 rmb + all the usual fees.

Not worth it when your alone.

Did get nonstop hits most weekends on my wechat.

Spent a nice weekend with a 37yr old widow who picked me up at starbuck one evening.

Its out there but getting harder to find.

Nobody Special

Fast Eddie 48
03-11-14, 19:01
Made a whirlwind pass threw Zhuzhou and Changsha and things are dead.

All sauna's, bbs closed. One high-end KTV offered me a takeout girl for 2000 rmb + all the usual fees.

Not worth it when your alone.

Did get nonstop hits most weekends on my wechat.

Spent a nice weekend with a 37yr old widow who picked me up at starbuck one evening.

Its out there but getting harder to find.

Nobody SpecialTo Nobody speical.

The last few trip to Changsha I find most sauna only offer only HJ no FS is on the decline after 2008 now the big crack down is the final blow you have better chance finding freebie at the bar now days.

Fast Eddie 48

Lost In Shanghai
07-01-14, 17:16
Made contact with an outcall service via WeChat. Typical bait and switch. Offered me 500,1 shot, 90 minutes, bathe, flirt, sex on line. Having before gotten sour, rushed, bored girls from similar services in Changsha, I asked for a girl with a cheerful disposition. "Sure, no problem" was the reply. "800 gets you a model. " No, I said 500 will do, with a good personality. Ok to both was the reply.

Well, the girl that showed up was very attractive. Might have been a model if she wasn't sour and bored, not to mention rude as she messed with her phone for 5 minutes and totally ignored me. "They told me 800," she said. Shoulda kicked her out then. I said we agreed on 500.

She had no interest in the shower, there was no flirting, she wanted to get to it. Obviously hated her life. Asked for 800 again before putting the condom on. I thought, "screw it, maybe her attitude will change" and agreed. It did not. Got it over with in 20 minutes. And she asked for cab fare.

Her name was Feng (probably translated as wind. Appropriate). We chat alias for the service is Xiao Xiao Su. PM for specific wechat I'd and associated QQ ids to avoid.

Smapti
11-02-14, 04:41
I am in Nanchang, and there is nothing here, so I thought about taking a trip to Changsha soon. But judging from the recent reports, it seems that Changsha is also dead.

Can anybody let me know? You can send me a PM if you prefer. I am mostly interested in saunas, or place with breast massage.

Thanks!

California8
10-22-15, 02:30
Zhangjiajie is a National Park Forest to the northwest of Changsha and known as the basis for the locale in Avatar. A travel agency booked me into the ShenShijianian Hotel in Zhangjiajie City, the hotel card only has an address in Chinese. Around the corner to the right as you exit the parking lot is an alley with 3 BBS. 2 places had 4 girls, 1 place had about 8. Most all are young, at most early 20's. The gal walks you across the street to an apartment one floor up, quite a large room with a double bed. No shower. This is typical BBS service, done in 20 minutes with no GFE. 150 RMB.

California8
11-10-15, 14:39
Maybe not too easy to find. You can see it on Apple Maps. Furlong Middle Road is a major north south road. Next main road to the west is Cai'e Road. From the intersection of Cai'e North Road and Xiangxun Road go to the west a few minutes and you will see a China Construction Bank on the left. Turn left onto the alley just after the bank, come to a T and there is a BBS on the right or if you turn left, the road will then turn right and there are a few places along this alley. Most are one gal places so if doors are closed, they are busy. Prices were 50-60 rmb for HJ and 100-150 rmb for FS.

Cal8.

Lost In Shanghai
12-12-15, 06:10
Yijian Massage Centre, Furong Middle Road #59, Between Wuyi Road and Jiefang Road, entrance is around to the left side of the building.

Take elevator to 2nd floor. As you come out trade your shoes for a pair of slippers. Then follow around to the right, behind the elevator bank. You will see the main desk.

If you ask for a massage (Anmo) they will point you up the stairs to the next floor. They also seem to offer bath services, but I did not check that out.

When you get upstairs, there is another desk, where you can ask for an oil massage. They may speak a little English there. An oil massage with the expected results is 228 for 70 minutes. They don't see many foreigners here.

If you come late, around midnight, you can stay in the room all night, apparently. They are open 24 hours.

Lost In Shanghai
12-12-15, 06:12
Tianxin Sauna Room, Chengnan West Road 33, Tianxin Pavilion Hotel 3rd Floor. Across the street from Tianxin Park. Don't go here. There was a guy sleeping in the entrance of the sauna, but otherwise it seemed dark and not used.

Nobody Special
04-27-16, 11:15
Made a tour China and stopped by Zhuzhou very near Changsha for a week.

Surprised that on a sunny Saturday afternoon I counted 6 BBS wide open in a single block!

Also was hit in wechat with multiple invitations to various hotels.

Quoted 599,699, 799,999, 1299.

My choice of 799 was a 23 year old SYT.

Usual routine and great fun.

Appears all is normal at least in Zhuzhou.

Tightway
10-07-16, 02:02
I will be stopping over in Changsha next month. Is anybody living there who can show me around?

Cheers,

TW

Lost In Shanghai
04-22-17, 13:51
Recently I stayed at this hotel on Jinxing Middle Road on the west side of the river. I went to the spa without calling ahead and asked for a massage. For 398 or so, I got a mediocre massage and happy ending. For an extra 100 tip she took her top off, and allowed touching. Typical high price, you get in a hotel place, but very convenient. It seemed like they also took appointments to send a girl to your room, and as I was leaving I saw a couple pretty girls in sexy white dresses in the "games" area.

Nobody Special
07-13-17, 17:33
More than 1 year since my last visit.

Called the papasan at my favorite local hotel and enjoyed a nice hot cup of tea as he calls it.

800 rmb for 60 minutes with a 20-25 year old during prime time. 2 shots guaranteed.

Never been disappointed. Prices vary according to the time of day.

Also lots of local wechat hits. Have fun.

Nobody Special.

Thomas Jefferson
07-16-18, 14:59
I will be in Changsha soon, anyone can give me some actual information? Near kempinski hotel would be perfect.

Thanks in advance.

Intransit
11-03-20, 15:07
During a recent visit to Changsha, I went out looking for trouble and failed to find any.

The massage place across the American-branded hotel where I stayed was too upscale. I walked down a back street that wasn't sufficiently dodgy to offer anything of interest. As I reached the end of the street, I first realized that it emptied out onto a bridge, rather than the main street, and it started to rain. Sometimes the universe tells you to go home.

There were some cards on the ground that I didn't pick up. On an earlier night my WeChat bait got one nibble, but I didn't add. Was hoping for a bit more action in a city that doesn't see much of it, but perhaps this close to the main drag, it may be too brightly lit.