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Samus Aran

11-01-04, 00:04

Peter,

Domino is correct! Hookers should have absolutley no say in your housing situation. They will scam you in everyway. Do a Google seasch using 'Serviced Apartments Bangkok" This will give you a listing. Do not bring a skank ho with you when visiting these places. You only will be frowned upon. Anyways, she will only beinterested in the tv and the size of the bed and how much food you can keep in the refrigerator for her. Dont make the biggest mistake of your life by having a thai ho live with you. Keep your apartment as your safe haven. If you need a "release" head to the bar, get a short time room and do the business. Hookers are for screwing and not for entertaining in your abode. Just SA's opinion but it is a good one.

Stay away form Globotto. He wants cash for helping! Just like a bar girl. You can do all of this yourself and that makes it more personal and challenging and fun. Believe SA, there is enuff pussy in Thailand and you certainly don't need to waste your cash on having a guide walk you 20 feet for a piece of ass! Thats about how far from your front door these little humping machines are located!

Domino,

SA takes care of himself in Bangkok and did all of the aprtment hunting with SA's own two feet. No way is some skank going to offer SA her opinion. Skank hos are sexers not guides. Everyone should remember that! Intelligent bargirl... thats a good one. Can we really consider college educated bargirls intelligent? You know where SA will stand on that also. These are humping machines. Who cares whats between their ears! Their bodies should be used for sexual pleasure and that is all!

Once again saw some thai ho taking advantage of some seriously older gent. In the Emporium she was pouting and even slapped him on the chest. It was embarassing. Although, she was tall and had a great body, no way would SA put up with that kind of behavior. The guy was a total washrag and stood their like a goon. Guys, havent you figured it out yet? Dont need to do the Julia Roberts/ Richard Gere bit with these skanks!!! These girls do not care about you!

When you leave them with the promises of" I will never work in bar again as long as you send me $." A day later they with another guy back in the bar. Dont try and save them from their life. It is not your job. Keep you western thinking for the west. You look like a schmuck when you try to be the savior of some girl who you just met! And, why you saving her.... cause you had a dozen of cumshots???

By the way, SA will be out on a new video game on Nov 15.

SA

Gladiator

11-06-04, 23:33

In Pattayamail this week:

'Broken-hearted foreigner attempts suicide

At 2 p.m. on October 24, Pol. Capt. Siripop Sukkasi, Pattaya criminal investigation officer received a report that a foreigner was trying to cut his own throat at his 4th floor apartment on Soi Bua Khao. A team of police raced to the scene investigate.

At the location of the drama, police found a foreigner, dressed in a pair of shorts, sitting on a paint container on the balcony of the fourth floor apartment. In his right hand was a 30cm knife and he was trying to cut his own throat. Blood oozed from the self inflicted wounds as he also tried to slit his wrists. The foreigner was also seen burning 15,000 baht in cash, throwing it off the balcony and muttering that money had no meaning anymore, since his girlfriend left him.

Police tried to calm the man down. Only after 30 minutes of talking, in which police handed the distressed man some cool water, did he lay down the knife and stop cutting himself.

The foreigner, an Irishman, was taken to hospital for treatment as he had lost a substantial amount of blood.

When asked why he wanted to kill himself, he replied that he was heartbroken that his girlfriend had walked out on him two months ago and he hadn’t seen nor heard from her since. He decided to end his pain through suicide.'

Once again, the case of a heartbroken farang has been made public.

This farang was particularly unlucky: Thailand is packed with kind-hearted, lovely, cheap and honest ladies who are willing to fall in love with you and become your soul-mates, however he was unlucky enough to choose one of those exceptional ladies who are not sincere: she ran away and left him, she broke his sweet heart and he decided to take his own life.

Life without his favourite hooker just didn’t make sense for him.

He cut his throat and wrists and, worst of all, hi burnt 15k baths (the price of 15 LT’s with beautiful chicks, just for the record). ‘Money has no meaning any more’, the sucker said.

Obviously this sucker hasn’t apprehended yet the true meaning of money in Thailand (or anywhere else for that matter). He hasn’t yet realised why the hooker went with him in the first place, he hasn’t yet noticed what’s going on in the real world out there and he is still living in fantasyland.

I’ve decided to bring this guy to Dr Aran consulting room so that he can get proper advice and guidance.

What should he do, Dr Aran? Should he look for a new Thai sweetie? Should he keep playing the lottery of love, as a compulsive gambler, till he has nothing else to lose other than his life?

Terry Terrier

11-07-04, 03:40

What is your view on your thread being colonised by off-topic bullshit by the likes of myself and your Thailand colleague, Domino? Would you like to see 'dear diary' information that is useful to the vast majority of users of wsgforum Thailand section, or worthless meandering philosophical twaddle like one of your friends posts? Answers on a postcard please.

Samus Aran

11-07-04, 14:22

Gladiator:

Dr. Aran's advice:

Irish guy, Use a sharper knife.

Samus Aran

Samus Aran

11-07-04, 14:33

For you cheapos:

Foodland has a special 49 baht breakfast. Eggs, toast, thick piece of sausage, coffe.

I call it the scumbag breakfast special. After a skank ho has run away with your cash, this mite be the only place for you to eat.

You can feel important as you read the newspaper and watch the street cleaners working their magic. What a way to spend your vacation. On sukumvit across from Gullivers

This isnt a pig swill all u can eat deal. For that u mite have to cough up some more money. But, SA knows you studs want to save your $ for the hos!

Samus Aran

JuiceSpike

11-07-04, 23:44

I'm glad to see humor is back... Suicides attempts and bikes being burned. Tragedy and dumbness. Loosers or confused people? :D

Some one was wondering if Pattaya is the armpit of Thailand. I think so but it is a fun place for a few days. There is so much fucking in that town that condoms are clogging the sewers.

I will soon post "Diary of a Serial Monger Part 1" to relate my experiences of my last trip. It will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off some people but hopefully enlight others.

juice

JuiceSpike

11-08-04, 01:36

Terry,

Yeah, I see a lot of humor intentional or otherwise. Sometimes I see this site as one big joke. As in funny.

Oh, and to go back in time to make a reference to an old fucked-up thread is not really a wise thing to do... Cheers.

Domino lives in Domino-land, a place you really don't want to visit :D. Maybe just pass through and wave "hello" but that's it.

juice

Coma Boy

11-08-04, 08:22

I've just Googled Samus to discover his true identity.

Pretty impressive, and actually suprisingly sexy.

Species: Human (she was infused with Chozo blood and much later with metroid DNA; the existence of her cybernetic implants is still conjectural)

Job: Space hunter, bounty hunter

Sex: Female

Height: 190 cm in the suit

Weight: 90 kg in the suit

Age: Unknown

Hair Colour: Blonde

Eye Colour: Blue

Biography:

Samus Aran is the legendary bounty hunter who is well-known for defeating the Space Pirates and wiping out the dangerous Metroids. At first believed to be an android, Samus revealed her true identity after she defeated the Space Pirates on Zebes. Her reputation grew as her reliability almost always guaranteed success in her hired jobs. Equipped with a heavy armored suit and arm cannon, she is a force to be reckoned with.

Terry Terrier

11-09-04, 09:07

Juice

You're right, of course. Dominoworld is probably best viewed from a distance with a mixture of sadness, fascination and amusement, rather like the worlds of the likes of Mike Tyson, Syd Barrett, Robert M Pirsig, et al.

Viewing from a distance, I know that one should never allow oneself to be baffled by the mental afflictions of another. But a greater scheme of things in the simple art of hiring prositutes? Is there some secret World Order organising and manipulating our seedy little hobby on a global scale? I worry that voices in the Waffling Philosopher's head are not too far away.

Domino

Re: Prices paid. Having just about managed to bring myself to view a few of the photos you upload from time to time (it's difficult, it has to be done well between meal times), hoary old jokes about not even accepting money from them spring to mind. LMAO

JuiceSpike

11-11-04, 15:30

Terry,

You wrote: "Is there some secret World Order organising and manipulating our seedy little hobby on a global scale?"

Yeah, there is one. They are called hookers.

You worry too much about Dominoworld and its effects on your psyche which need not to happen. Really. You are as affected by the magic or voodoo as you let it be. Ching.

I always liked Mike Tyson and his Tysonworld. Didn't you? Better strange than ordinary. Better crazy than mediocre.

juice

Terry Terrier

11-12-04, 05:32

Juice

I don't worry at all about the effects of Dominoworld on my psyche. I worry about it's effects on the Forum. It's antics, obnoxious and malicious at times, drive good posters away. Like you, I can handle freaks (plenty of experience). And, like you, find them fascinating, if a little sad.

Re: My reference to a "greater scheme". It probably now comes across as a non sequiteur, but this is because it referenced a quote from a Domino post which he quickly deleted (as he often does). If you blinked and missed it, he was waffling on about only a select few posters being party to it, and the rest of us being an irrelevance. And here was I, thinking we were posting to share info on how to find women for our hobby!

Maybe the rest of us should take our photos, pertinent hotel and travel info, and "Got my dick sucked by ****** (**yo) from ***** bar, cost *****, blah blah blah...." to a forum catering for philosophical debate. It would make perfect sense in Dominoworld.

Terry Terrier

11-12-04, 09:12

Domino

You just don't get it, do you?

My snipes at your on-topic material and opinions are just bad-natured humour, of the type that you so enjoy directing at others.

I would've thought that an intelligent man like you could work out that you are being given some of the treatment that you so readily dish out, but it has been pointed out to me both on this message board and in private that you really do live in a world of your own, where normal rules of engagement do not apply. Have you ever apologised to another poster on this forum? Have you ever apologised to anyone?

Re: Samus' thread. People don't read it because it's cutting-edge, they read it because when Samus sets off a discussion it's fucking funny. You sad, deluded fool.

Btw This section is not just for a small minority who have enough idle time to spend travelling on long bus journeys to stay in rat-infested hotels in back-of-beyond towns. Nothing wrong with that if you like that sort of thing, of course. Just don't expect everyone else to (and, more importantly, don't behave like an arrogant, condescending prick towards those who don't).

Btw2 For someone who doesn't read my on-topic posts, you know an awful lot about them. But, then again, like all journalists, you are quite comfortable with being economical with the truth, and creative editing for that matter ("I'm as thick as fuck....").

Btw3 I wish I knew as many hiso members of this forum as you. I would boast about it as much as you do.

Terry Terrier

11-12-04, 09:37

incidentally, domino

i get lots of opportunities to look in on the forum when i'm back home because my business keeps me at my pc for long periods. when on vacation, i only visit internet cafes to pick up business and personal emails. maybe two or three times in a trip, curiosity gets the better of me and i have a quick look at the forum (your friend juice will confirm this: i missed the chance of a second meet-up with him because of it).

like i said, at home i peek in regularly. you are almost invariably on-line, no doubt sat in some cheap and cheerful internet cafe somewhere in los. how sad is that?

Terry Terrier

11-13-04, 08:10

Waffling Philosopher

Where in the report quoted by Gladiator, to which you are eagerly awaiting Samus' predictable reply, does it use the word 'hooker' (or even 'Thai' ,for that matter?).

Terry Terrier

11-13-04, 14:59

Dear Waffling Philosopher

My describing of Japanese mongers as high rollers, and two in particular as 'good looking' is hardly going to have the Race Relations Authority breathing down my neck ('Japs' a racist term? Brits? Yanks? Thais?).

Please quote (without creative editing) where I wrote that I couldn't find my way around Sukhumvit.

Have I only been to Thailand once?

I didn't make any uninformed remarks about a Buddhist monk in Chiang Mai. I saw one with a lascivious expression on his face sitting in the back of a pickup truck next to two small boys. I asked a question (in the relevant thread): Does it go on? You replied, in graphic detail, that it does. You then quickly deleted your post, as is your wont.

You prefer not to read my posts, but you know everything about them. Maybe you employ a reader?

I do like some of your posts because, in your lucid and on-topic moods, they are witty and informative for their own particular fields. I don't like your presence on this Forum for the same reasons that most of the other posters in this section don't like you: You come across as a mentally unstable, arrogant, bullying, condescending buffoon.

Juice is a good poster and a nice guy. I don't have a problem with him. Freeler is a first class poster in his own field. Samus comes across as a nice guy who has fun winding people up. I suspect he nearly wets himself laughing behind your back at your attempts to put his posts on a higher philosophical level.

You only HELPED to write the FAQs, collaborating with Freeler and Joe Zop.

The thing about finding prostitutes (isn't skank such a derogatory, de-humanising word? Jackson: Isn't it about time this word was put on the banned list?) is that any half-decent monger could travel to almost any town in the World and find them. More pertinent here is: 'Where in Thailand do the vast majority of readers of this section want to visit?' I think I know the answer, and they want up-to-date info: Best bars, gogos, clubs, hotels, etc, etc. I know you take your journalism seriously, Waffling Philosopher, so in journalistic terms: Think of the 'dear diarists' as honest, down-to-earth tabloid hacks; and of yourself as a waffler writing for an obscure, pseudo-highbrow, chattering-classes Sunday supplement.

"Goodbye little troll" You're leaving us (again)? I doubt there will be too many tears in this section.

You have deceived the forum with identity changes, you have lied repeatedly, and you edit the posts of others to twist their meaning in your quotes. Who do you think you are fooling? You are merely flagging up your total lack of respect for the intelligence of all other posters. How sad is that?

Good riddance

Terry Terrier

11-13-04, 17:53

Waffler

Do you have a philosophical thesis as to why Bullys always whinge like over-tired children when they are subjected to a 'taste of their own medicine'?

btw You are STILL deleting or heavily editing your posts. Why do you persist in treating the rest of the posters on this Forum like idiots? Leave the fucking posts alone, and let others make their minds up as to their merits.

Hurry up, Samus, the Waffling Philosopher is getting irritable.

The Traveler

11-13-04, 19:42

Terry

Please remember, this is the trash section of the forum so Mr. D.'s posts belong to this place and nowhere else.

Anyway, it is hard to follow the thread, since your opponent doesn't believe in his own words or seems to fear that anyone can read his posts and deletes them as fast as possible.

So better let it go.

Terry Terrier

11-13-04, 20:40

Trav

I feel like I'm engaged in a debate with someone who is constantly excusing himself to go to the toilet.

Anyway, I'm off for a night out shortly. Have fun.

The Traveler

11-13-04, 20:51

Terry

as far as I remember he is an American and a very polite one as well.
Only we illiterate Europeans call it "toilet" (how vulgar and ordinary), someone of his class would definitely call it "bathroom" or "restroom".
Please adapt if you are talking to or about someone eloquent and well educated like him.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Terry Terrier

11-13-04, 21:13

Thanks for that info, Trav.

I've yet to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in a public toilet that has a bath, or shit in one where you can get a decent rest without someone banging on the door. Sorry to digress, Jackson, but like Trav says, this is the waste thread of the Thailand section.

My taxi's just arrived, I'm off out. g'night.

TT

The Traveler

11-13-04, 23:18

Terry

I am shocked, that sort of language is not welcome here.
As you might have noticed, the issue of the forum changed dramatically from "exchanging information about how and where to find women for sexual intercourse" to "discussing literature on a higher - let's say esoteric - level".

Since we now freed our souls and minds from those dirty thoughts and aren't driven by our instincts anymore, we should also show the same improvement in the language we use. So I kindly ask you to refrain from using those words I do not even dare to cite.

The audition of this forum isn't interested in any information regarding mongering in "common places", personal experiences, field reports or diary entries anymore. So do not post if you haven't been to a place where no man has been before.

Listen to "The Choosen One", he is an expert, you might learn from him. Take his advice and do not dare to post until your mental condition has improved and can stand a comparison - if this is possible - to his own mental condition.

Read his posts carefully and learn. They are full of information, no unnecessary ballast and totally lack of personal attacks. He is carrying the burden of being restless only to bring us information about new places. Being the first in any given place he gives us important information about the dangers that lay ahead, like herpes sores for example.

In addition, please do not criticize him for his way of travelling and his exceptional skills. Only an expert can travel that way, no newbie would dare to grab the bus to Korat or anywhere else in Isaan. Anyway, the fact that you want some comfort during your holiday and that you like it clean and safe is your fault, not his.

Terry Terrier

11-14-04, 06:05

Waffler

Ever thought that you are pissing up the wrong tree, or shitting in the wrong garden?

Just an idea.

TT

Terry Terrier

11-14-04, 06:17

Traveler

I am working hard (harder than you can imagine) on my mental condition. But it is difficullt, so difficult. I cannot find a 'level' with the Waffling Philosopher. Please, please guide me. I have to travel a long way on business later today. Can you put me out of my misery before then?

ps Hurry up, Samus

Joe Zop

11-14-04, 10:24

"You only HELPED to write the FAQs, collaborating with Freeler and Joe Zop."

Terry, with all due respect, Domino/Skinless deserves -- absolutely and completely -- any amount of credit he cares to take for the FAQs, as he was the driving force behind putting them together, and did the lion's share of the work and essentially all the writing. My very minor contributions were limited to some resources to include, some encouragement and attaboys, and a couple of comments and suggestions regarding organization and language, some taken, some not. I'd have had utterly no problem (and stated so at the time, in fact) if my name had not been included as someone to be acknowledged, as doing so implies I deserve an equal share of credit (or blame, I suppose, LOL) for the FAQ creation which in my opinion distorts the matter. Freeler had much more input than I, as his knowledge is far more extensive and authoritative, but I expect he would completely agree with me that the FAQ would simply not exist were it not for Skinless' energetic spearheading and load-bearing efforts.

History need not be rewritten in the service of a current argument, although, as politics demonstrates, that's a frequent occurrence. Since, however, there is present contention over the issue of purpose, it's worth noting that all three of us hoped the FAQs would lessen repetitive questions and postings and allow for more and better quality discussion about new resources and new areas. Perhaps the FAQs have done so to some degree, perhaps not; I'm not sure how one would measure something like that in an environment where new participants are constantly coming and going, lurking and surfacing, and the numbers are ever-rising. All three of us also hoped the information in the FAQs would embolden folks to explore beyond the usual settings and report new discoveries. Since that hope for more exploration was truly one of their core desires and motivations, both Skinless and Freeler have expressed disappointment and discouragement over the degree to which they feel that has not happened; I'd guess my expectations were far lower, and thus my level of disappointment is proportional.

I don't want to interrupt the pissing match, but imho this aspect at least should be taken off the table and due credit should be given.

The Traveler

11-14-04, 10:58

Dear Mr. D.

your posts become alive. They are moving in time and space and sometimes get lost as well.
Therefore I allow myself to quote one of them, so that following generations can be enlighted by your wisdom and follow your advices.

Sincerely

Message #2596, Posted 11-04-04, 19:24 . Thailand Photos
Terry Troll: Stop posting personal attacks. Don’t post any more racist anti Japanese remarks. Given that you could not find your way around Soi Sukumvit in Bangkok, don’t attack and ridicule others for being confused about directions in Pattaya.
You have apparently made one visit to Thailand, after which you posted a number of skank photos and made uninformed remarks about a Buddhist monk you saw from a distance in Chiang Mai. If you read your own comments on me in the Travel section in early September, you will see that you praise my posts: I cannot do the same for yours, which I prefer to ignore.
A number of posters, Juice Spike included, have already pointed the error of your ways to you but - :( - sad and shameful little troll that you are, you persist. Shame, little troll~! You wish to subvert but you have nothing except a handful of skank photos and a visit to Eden (which is very old hat here: though your Heineken laced golden and [CodeWord135] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord135) are probably not:() to replace the void you hope to create with.
Attica, who originally set up this site, asked for posts on new areas as that was the best way to extend the information set. Read the relevant FAQs which I wrote and based on Attica’s maxims. Visit Thailand a few more times. Then, when you have some experience of something others do not, post it.
You are a dilettante both in Thailand and on this board from which you should take a long break until your mental condition improves. Learn from the experts and some day you may graduate from boy to monger man. Goodbye little troll;)
Samus : Your comments on Gladiator’s useful contribution please. Anyway, good work by Gladiator. We need more of this and less of the Dear Diary bs, as explained above.

The Traveler

11-14-04, 11:40

Terry

I fear that I can't be of great help to put you out of your misery.
My own mental condition can't match with "The Choosen One's", but being as limited as I am I do not care and therefore do not even try to come even close to his mental condition. In fact, I do not want to.

Mr. D. definitely has his good sides, but he does all he can to hide them.
Do not forget, he went a long way and lived different lifes until he finally reached his current state. Some people would call him schizophrenic and others a psycho. But I believe he would rather compare himself with Buddha, who had a similiar development. His aim is clear, he is searching for enlightenment, wants to reach a higher level to finally end that endless chain of birth, death and rebirth.

Remember, he was born as Mr. Skinless, an average guy just like you and me. He was first helpful and tried to share info, somtimes even funny. But than something strange happened to him. He suddenly preferred to attack others and felt superior. Maybe an alien force took over or he made self-experiments just like Mr. Jekyll / Hide. Nevertheless sometimes his already mentioned good sides prevailed and he reappeared as our beloved Reverend John T. Skinless who's only intention was to bring love to us usual people. This unstable state of mind suddenly found an end and he was reborn as the pizza man Domino. Even though this new character was first only interested in pizza and pussy (please excuse this vulgar expression) he soon transformed into a philosopher.
Buddhism is teaching us that life is a never ending cycle and to close the circle he went back and started to attack others and again feels superior (see above).

Maybe he has the right to do so, cause he seems to be the only one in the forum who has already finished the first cycle and was reborn - of course under a new name - which makes him exceptional.

Buddhism is also teaching us that you will be rewarded or punished in your subsequent lifes for the things you have done in your former life.
Judge yourself if his rebirth is an improvement from his former existence.

The (humble) Traveler

Domino

11-14-04, 11:52

Traveller: Please let Samus Aran have his own thread back. Has Terry Troll, your latest boy, an unnatural fixation on golden and [CodeWord135] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord135) btw? I do recall you saying you were not into that. After Dr Aran deals with the case Gladiator very kindly brought to his attention, perhaps he can turn his attention to Terry's. You, as you know, are, imho, a lost cause. Thnaks for reposting my words of wisdom btw. And, as we are going down memory road, I think it a pity in many ways many other posters do not disappear as they clutter up the board. But as long as we are "having fun" eh?:D

Gladiator: Dr. Aran's advice: Irish guy, Use a sharper knife. Samus Aran

For you cheapos: Foodland has a special 49 baht breakfast. Eggs, toast, thick piece of sausage, coffee.

I call it the scumbag breakfast special. After a skank ho has run away with your cash, this mite be the only place for you to eat.

You can feel important as you read the newspaper and watch the street cleaners working their magic. What a way to spend your vacation. On sukumvit across from Gullivers

This isnt a pig swill all u can eat deal. For that u mite have to cough up some more money. But, SA knows you studs want to save your $ for the hos!

Samus Aran

In Pattayamail this week:

'Broken-hearted foreigner attempts suicide

At 2 p.m. on October 24, Pol. Capt. Siripop Sukkasi, Pattaya criminal investigation officer received a report that a foreigner was trying to cut his own throat at his 4th floor apartment on Soi Bua Khao. A team of police raced to the scene investigate.

At the location of the drama, police found a foreigner, dressed in a pair of shorts, sitting on a paint container on the balcony of the fourth floor apartment. In his right hand was a 30cm knife and he was trying to cut his own throat. Blood oozed from the self inflicted wounds as he also tried to slit his wrists. The foreigner was also seen burning 15,000 baht in cash, throwing it off the balcony and muttering that money had no meaning anymore, since his girlfriend left him.

Police tried to calm the man down. Only after 30 minutes of talking, in which police handed the distressed man some cool water, did he lay down the knife and stop cutting himself.

The foreigner, an Irishman, was taken to hospital for treatment as he had lost a substantial amount of blood.

When asked why he wanted to kill himself, he replied that he was heartbroken that his girlfriend had walked out on him two months ago and he hadn’t seen nor heard from her since. He decided to end his pain through suicide.'

Once again, the case of a heartbroken farang has been made public.

This farang was particularly unlucky: Thailand is packed with kind-hearted, lovely, cheap and honest ladies who are willing to fall in love with you and become your soul-mates, however he was unlucky enough to choose one of those exceptional ladies who are not sincere: she ran away and left him, she broke his sweet heart and he decided to take his own life.

Life without his favourite hooker just didn’t make sense for him.

He cut his throat and wrists and, worst of all, hi burnt 15k baths (the price of 15 LT’s with beautiful chicks, just for the record). ‘Money has no meaning any more’, the sucker said.

Obviously this sucker hasn’t apprehended yet the true meaning of money in Thailand (or anywhere else for that matter). He hasn’t yet realised why the hooker went with him in the first place, he hasn’t yet noticed what’s going on in the real world out there and he is still living in fantasyland.

I’ve decided to bring this guy to Dr Aran consulting room so that he can get proper advice and guidance.

What should he do, Dr Aran? Should he look for a new Thai sweetie? Should he keep playing the lottery of love, as a compulsive gambler, till he has nothing else to lose other than his life?

The above were the replies Samus, who is only a regular member posted. I report them so they are not lost in the spam.

Domino I would've thought that an intelligent man like you ... You sad, deluded fool. I'm as thick as fuck. I wish I knew as many hiso members of this forum as you. Message #2596, Posted 11-04-04, 19:24 . Thailand Photos
Terry Troll Thanks Jaimito. I'm as thick as fuck.
Jaimito Cartero I know what you mean!
Terry Troll: Stop posting personal attacks. Don’t post any more racist anti Japanese remarks. Given that you could not find your way around Soi Sukumvit in Bangkok, don’t attack and ridicule others for being confused about directions in Pattaya.
You have apparently made one visit to Thailand, after which you posted a number of skank photos and made uninformed remarks about a Buddhist monk you saw from a distance in Chiang Mai. If you read your own comments on me in the Travel section in early September, you will see that you praise my posts: I cannot do the same for yours, which I prefer to ignore.
A number of posters, Juice Spike included, have already pointed the error of your ways to you but - :( - sad and shameful little troll that you are, you persist. Shame, little troll~! You wish to subvert but you have nothing except a handful of skank photos and a visit to Eden (which is very old hat here: though your Heineken laced golden and [CodeWord135] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord135) are probably not:() to replace the void you hope to create with.
Attica, who originally set up this site, asked for posts on new areas as that was the best way to extend the information set. Read the relevant FAQs which I wrote and based on Attica’s maxims. Visit Thailand a few more times. Then, when you have some experience of something others do not, post it.
You are a dilettante both in Thailand and on this board from which you should take a long break until your mental condition improves. Learn from the experts and some day you may graduate from boy to monger man. Goodbye little troll;)
Samus : Your comments on Gladiator’s useful contribution please. Anyway, good work by Gladiator. We need more of this and less of the Dear Diary bs, as explained above.

The Traveler

11-14-04, 12:28

Dear Mr. D.

I believe that SA would say something if he really wants to. I too believe that he can and will speak for himself and does not need any help to get his section back. If he is keeping calm, he might have his reasons. Please respect that.

BTW, just one question since I am too limited to understand why you constantly delete your posts and repost them - full or in part, edited or unedited.
Do you try to get all your wisdom collected in one post ? That would be a very short post of course.
So what's the reason for that strange behaviour ?

Anyway I share your view as you nicely said :

I think it a pity in many ways many other posters do not disappear as they clutter up the board. But as long as we are "having fun" eh?:D
But sad that some "reappear" instead of "disappear".

Thanks for your attention.

A humbled Traveler

Domino

11-15-04, 07:12

The Traveller:

1.How come your English has improved so dramatically from your time in the Skinless/Traveller thread when you could not understand the simple legal facts repeatedly presented to you?
2. During your spat with PurplenGold, which ljohnson mistakenly maintained I was involved in, PnG repeatedly referred to Chester. As I do not know who or what Chester is, perhaps you, or one of your friends, can briefly enlighten me?
3. How is the computer hacking coming along?
4. Why do you post so much in the Samus Aran thread, given that you do not like him? Does he touch one of your raw nerves? Do you feel threatened? Do you feel your presence is needed here?
5. Do you feel you have to be important here to make up for deficiencies elsewhere in your life?
6. Given the notorious burning of books which took place in Germany during the 1930s, do you think, as a German, you should be especially circumspect when denigrating literature or do you feel you have a right to goose step wherever the fancy takes you?
7. If someone got into deep shit and, say, ended up in a Thai prison or Thai morgue as a result of emulating your sexual and/or bouncer-fighting exploits, how would you feel about it?
8. As a former bouncer, what do you think of bouncing as a profession? Very stressful (everyone wants a piece of you)? Rewarding? Fun?
9. Have you ever done time? Do you know that Little Big Man and at least two others here have? You know the first rule about fighting in prison? You know the three bars worth fighting at?

Please feel free to phone a friend, ask the choir boys or whatever. Not that it, or you, are particularly important but these things all help in little ways. If the last one is too difficult, Uncle Domino might come and assist you. If you are a good little boy xxxxxx.

Domino, the Pizza man.

The Traveler

11-15-04, 10:45

Dear Mr. D.

Even though your below questions are just too plain stupid - which is far below your abilities - and don't deserve being answered, I'll try to make you happy.

My english didn't improve since that stupid discussion - if it can be called like that. Maybe you just read my posts right now and think about them which you obviously avoided during your character assasination. Nevertheless, don't try to start that shit again. The forum had enough of it.

If it helps you, I didn't understand the reference to "Chester" as well. Ask him, not me if you need to be enlightened.

I post whereever and whenever I like. Do you intend to withdraw that right from me ? If yes, on which basis ?

BTW, I never said that I don't like SA. I have met him and he seemed to be an OK guy. Remember, I even defended him long time ago but then he changed his wording, downgrading other people who were just less lucky than we are. I also differentiate between the real person and the character in the forum. It's not just all black and white, but if this is too complex for you I can't help you.

But hey, you post much more than me, so why do you post that much in his thread or in the forum ?
Do you believe anything you say have any importance ?
Do you provide any info or do you use the forum to produce yourself in front of others ?
Need to be heard here because at home nobody is listening to you ?
Are you a little troubleseeker but too afraid to attack others in real life ?

I really regret that we have missed each other last time I was in BKK. You just left the day I met JuiceSpike with who you had spent some time. Guess it would have been fun to see what kind of guy you really are and if there is more than just hot air behind all that babbling from you.

Regarding bouncing, it's neither rewarding nor fun. I see that you got no idea what you are talking about. Not everybody wants a piece of me - except the girls of course :). As a bouncer you have to calm down situations if possible but also draw a line which no one is allowed to cross. If anyone does he will be removed and if he dares to fight he has to be prepared for the things to come.
Most guys in real life are smart enough to avoid a fight. It's not like here, where some brainless people feel strong and are looking for trouble all the time. I guess you know whom I'm talking about. In the net you don't have to fear any consequences, but in real life you have to. Remember that.

BTW, as a bouncer you learn quite much about different characters as you have to determine who might cause a real threat. Someone like you was called a "balloon", bloated (or swollen headed if you like) but nothing else than just hot air.

And no, I have never done time. I respect the laws, do you ?

Please feel free to contact me for further queries but pleeeeeaaaaase, improve the quality of your questions.

Still a humble Traveler

The Traveler

11-15-04, 12:42

dear prof. d.

so you are also a historian.
fine, let's stress history and see if you - as an american - can be proud to be one :

should we start with the indians/redskins ?
or maybe slavery is something for your taste ?
what about racism ?
do you prefer places where black people aren't allowed ?
and where does your bad, devaluating and downgrading view of asian girls (which is documented in most of your posts) come from ?
still prefer to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), kill and burn them - not necessarily in that order - like during the vietnam war ?
is that the reason why you choosed to live in japan, it's quite famous for their "school girls" ?
maybe that's why you prefer thailand, especially upcountry ? [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is rarely reported there cause it's causing loss of face, a sex-worker in downtown bkk wouldn't care.
can't you handle white girls - they aren't worthless meat, right ? - cause they are of same race like you ?
or is that the reason why you choosed to live in japan or travel to thailand ?
do you miss korea back in the 50's ?
where do you think do more nazis or rightist extremists live, in europe or the usa ?
do you share their view of white supremacy ?
remember oklahoma ?
is the american constitution only valid for (white) americans ?
why does the usa refuse to accept the competence of the international court in the hague for war crimes of american soldiers ?
does that mean that the us government believes that american soldiers are commiting war crimes ?
do you agree with what is happening in guantanamo ?
what about abu ghareib ?

be careful with history !
i avoid to judge anybody by it's origin, colour of skin, belief or whatever. prejudices and cut and dried opinions are dangerous.
they only show how limited a person is.

did i hurt your feelings with my previous posts ? not able to answer on the same level ?
you just proved again that you have no limits - by being quite limited at the same time - if you are lacking of arguments.

i apologize to everybody - except our self declared historian - if the above questions might have hurt anybodys feelings. of course i didn't want to give the impression that americans are bad people. i deeply believe that you can only rate a person by their very own views and actions. no one is responsible for the wrong doings of their ancestors or anyone of the same origin.

sincerely
the traveler

Domino

11-15-04, 18:57

thanks

see the english is slipping up again.
and, just to remind you, doing **** "women" is statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). and you have admitted to that, not me. done any more "accidentally" lately?
i referred to nazi book burning, not to anything else. i am well aware of the positive contributions germans have made. even though i do not regard you as one of their finest, i hope you will tone down your attacks on literature in the future.
as regards your american related remarks: i was on record here as being disgusted by the torture of iraqis. jackson, however, removed that post, not me. the wars of the bush family sicken me.
sorry your insecurities are acting up again. i knew several bouncers who died of heart attacks: the constant pressure and everyone wanting a piece of them:)
hope you can fill me in on what chester means.
i will leave you with the last word. you like it that way.

The Traveler

11-15-04, 19:12

dear little mr. d.

even though your post isn't worth being mentioned or answered i will be patient with little d. and also answer that crap.

and, just to remind you, doing **** "women" is statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). and you have admitted to that, not me. done any more "accidentally" lately?

i do not care if it is called [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), both are almost the worst things a man can do and just because you haven't admitted it doesn't mean you haven't done it, accidently or not.
btw, i don't say that you have done it, i was just asking a few questions but the fact that you try to differentiate tells me a lot about you.

...i hope you will tone down your attacks on literature in the future.

what are you talking about ?
please quote where and when did i attack on literature ?
all i said was, that the purpose of this forum seemed to have changed. if this is an attack, then saying "hello" must be an insult.
wow, what a thin skin our little mr. d. has.

hope you can fill me in on what chester means.

you still do not read carefully enough or maybe you have a leaking memory. whatever, maybe you are just extremely slow and can only remember things that have been repeated a couple of times. should we blame your age, the consumption of drugs or just your mental condition (read my below posts) ?
again, ask purplengold, i do not know what he meant by that. got it now ?

as regards your american related remarks: i was on record here as being disgusted by the torture of iraqis. jackson, however, removed that post, not me. the wars of the bush family sicken me.

i just made those american related remarks to show you how stupid it is to judge anybody by his origin, color of skin, belief or whatever.
but why did you made those nazi related remarks ?
obviously you tried to stigmatize me again, being full of prejudices and using them you showed us how weak you really are.
bring forward real arguments or try to be ironic or sarcastic but save us the crap you use to post.

please improve your skills, you're turning back on old and worn out issues. nothing new ?
i know that you are capable of more and can do much better.
you also seem to have the tendency to play dirty and call your opponent insecure if you lack of arguments. why is that, insecure yourself ?
why else do you turn back to an overstressed issue ? why not pick up on what i said and prove that i am wrong or answer my questions truthfully ?
btw, repeating nonsense doesn't make it sound more smart, it's still nonsense.

i guess in domino land everything works different. little d. only sees what he wants to see.
i do not care if you lie to others, but you shouldn't lie to yourself.

at least you are extremely predictable. i knew you will catch my decoy and forget about terry :d

a patient traveler

Coma Boy

11-15-04, 20:16

Hey guys, keep bickering!

I actually prefer it to most of the lame posts these days.

Perhaps there shoud be some sort of Fury thread to cater for such squabbles.

Or we could all come along to Nana's car-park and watch you both punch-it-out, perhaps with [CodeWord107] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord107)-Terry as referee.

Also mystified as to the meaning of "Chester".

Who brought up the word in the first place? They should be fucking beheaded.

In my short-life I have so far come across two meanings for "Chester"; scummy-East-London slang for molester- "Chester the Molester", and some shitty part of England near Manchester.

Joe Zop

11-15-04, 21:00

Because this is getting tiresome (and I expect Domino actually knows this reference and is simply tweaking TT who doesn't):

PnG's Chester comments were a reference to "Chester the Molester" which is used to describe a guy who's perverted and creepy, who typically molests children and/or hangs around them. There used to be a cartoon by that name in Hustler but the phrase is far older. It's sometimes also used as "Uncle Chester" being the slimy uncle who's inappropriately interested.

The Traveler

11-15-04, 21:17

Joe Zop

Yep, I am already tired of it. I expected Domino would be more eloquent as he used to teach others about literature, writing styles and the like.
He is definitely capable of more, but his current performance is far below my expectations and quite boring.
He also seemed to be obsessed by a single issue, wonder why ?
To save the forum any further nonsense and waste of bandwith I will quit here and now.

With kind regards
The Traveler

BTW, thanks for the info, I really didn't knew that reference. I do not watch or read cartoons, I am too old for that.
I also never read Hustler, I rather study the raw material :)

Duniawala

11-15-04, 21:33

TT and Domino

Can you guys stop this BS. It is getting boring, non-constructive and childish. Jackson should open up the TT & Skinless thread and you guys take it there.

Although I never like SA's comments that much, I am now yearning to hear his diatribes just so that you two can stop.

Just my 2 cents worth.

The Traveler

11-15-04, 21:48

Duniawala

no need to request me to stop. Read below, I already said I will bail out here.
It's boring and nothing new.

Relax

Freeler

11-16-04, 05:32

Duniawala,

He said he will stop this bs because he's 'already tired of it' in reply to Joe Zop's post.
Then he says he will stop this bs because he's 'already tired of it' in reply to your post.

This kinda brings back memories....

Domino

11-16-04, 06:34

Samas: I will be in Bangkok in mid December if you want to meet up for a laugh. Like last time, I will be very tired when I reach Bangkok as I will have fucked my way through Northern Thailand. This tour will be so sick that I suspect even you, Looking 4 Lefty and Freeler will object. I will be back again in March and maybe Janaury again ..........

Chester: Thanks for the pointer. It must be years since I even saw a copy of Hustler. I am not a big porno head. I am rereading 1984 now; it has improved with age.

Posterlion: I see your Bkk posts. Two more favorite authors of mine are Thomans Mann and Leon Feuchwanger. These are among my all time tops. But I think the printed word has run its course.

Samus: What is it about Battle Royale and similar games that turn gamers into psychopathic freaks and yet they leave you as the cuddly nice guy that you are and that we all love and respet. How goes the sims? Have your virtual hookers turned any good tricks recently.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=572&ncid=572&e=1&u=/nm/20041115/lf_nm/arts_tragedy_dc

Samus Aran

11-16-04, 11:33

Fellas:

Is just SA or does this blue on blue print and background strain the eyes?

Ok, here it goes.

Last Sunday the NAtion newspaper posted an article on the rise of older aged farang men marrying into the isaan family clans. It is reported that some 20,000 married mixed scumbag/hooker couples reside in isaan. The men interviewed said the isaan girls are much more caring than their bangkok sisters. Is this true? Also, they said western women were too pushy and independant. Now which is better, some totally deopendant can't do anything by myself thai skank or some western woman who has a little bit of drive? SA has been in Thailand long enuff to be leaning towards the latter choice. Most of you guys just don't know the thai girls and see them only when their head is in your lap. Furthermore, the article interviewed the girls. Abour 56 % of them were working when they met their husbands. SA' s question, what kind of work was it? Certain percentage had to be hooking. But, the best part was now that they are married only 6% work! So, they got what they wanted. A fat ass farang man who is happy with a lazy ass wife sitting around the house watching thai soaps and eating Lays potato chips! The article called the men "Trophy Husbands" and that a fair amount of the women were in it for the money. So, for a few thousand baht a month the "trophy man" gets laid several times and the girl gets to feed the village! Certainly not SA's cup of tea. The reporter did point out that about 50% of these marriages fail. All the pics used showed a rather portly crowd sitting around their farms and watching the chickens peck at the little no shoed tshirt only babies running in the dirt. Definately not in SA's future.

So, someone asked what are the different categories that expats residing in Thailand fall into. They had:

1. Executives working for large companies
2. Teachers working for proper schools and universities
3. Any other teacher. Basically your khao san crowd.
4. Retirees living on a pittance sucking down coffee on sukumvit road with a bangkok post in their hand wearing the undershirt they slept. Eating a cheapo breakfast thinking this is the life!

Did SA get the all? Any others?

Now for all of this in house fighting, SA will stay out of it. Funny, SA was banned 3 times and never was SA as vocal and into namecalling as what is going on in here. Hey, Mr Admin.... How about a boost up to Senior status?

Samus Aran

Samus Aran

11-16-04, 11:54

Coma Boy,

Nice reserach on Samus. By the way, a new Nintendo game starring SA is out this week. SA will gladly fork over the $50 to play that game. Lets see... $50 and 40 hours of video game action or 15 minutes of sexual release with a thai hooker? Well, looks like SA will be glued to the tv

This part of the thai section is supposed to be for fun. It is about ranting and raving which is exactly why it was created. Stop with this insection bickering. Write funny stuff about Thailand and the brown skinned fuck machines in a humourous way. They are dying to be made fun of. Make fun of the dreamy eyed farangs who sell everything just to be with some 4th grade piece of thai ass!

Yesterday, SA had to fight his way through Central Chidlom. So many scumbags with their scumbag associates blocking the aisles. If their is one thing worse than the pollution in Bangkok it is the ugly hand holding and cuddling between an overweight foreigner and some dirty skinned isaan ho. You guys look so out of place. Why do you get involved with these people? What is so hard for you men to just f^&k this girls and then move them on.

SA is off to Hua Hin this weekend. Gonna relax by the sea. Gosh, SA hopes that the scumbags stay away form Hua Hin for 2 days. Probably not. They will bring their bangkok babes for a vacation. Dumb idea.

SA hopes that the Irishman is ok. Anybody willing to take their life over some Thai hooker has some serious issues and should seek help. That is sad. Just proves again to never get involved with these hookers. Never ever live with them!! Just deposit your seed and then leave. Simple as that.

Samus Aran

The Traveler

11-17-04, 15:54

Freeler

I expected you to join in, as usual you couldn't resist. This shit is addictive somehow, isn't it :)
Now only Bill is missing. :(

Terry Terrier

11-18-04, 03:45

C'mon Trav, admit it. You only made your last two posts to get to the magic 1000 ;-)

The Traveler

11-18-04, 09:48

Terry

LOL, nope, I am a patient guy and do not like to rush things, the magic 1.000 would have fallen sooner or later anyway.

Domino

11-18-04, 19:37

http://www.thailandpi.com/background-investigation-thai-girlfriend.htm

Samus: You make some interesting points about marriages you make; I owuld have imagined there are some well set retirees but thye probably keep a low profile. Lots of the retirees don't seem so flash to me. I will have to go over your posts in greater detail later. I want to talk to you about something important when I am in Bangkok in early December.

Re marriages: it is mostly a class and cultural thing. I would be surprised if the failure rate in those marriages is only 50%.
So you recall Freeler's post about the two ex marines he met in Si Saket; one of them had the wife from hell. These guys had burnt their way through Vietnam and allowed themselves to be suckered by a few Isaan witches. Just because they had survived Vietnam.

Senior Membership: Jackson has now a form for this. Please fill it up. I am sure all good standing members will support you.

Joe Zop

11-18-04, 20:57

SA, since you spent so much time in Korat I'm curious to know if you see a difference between the retirees in Bangkok and elsewhere. I know I met a few in the north who seemed like very simple and happy guys who were living at a much better level than they would be in the States, since their retirement dollars went a lot further. (I should note that I see plenty of retirees doing exactly the same thing you describe over here, only at higher prices.) Some of these guys were into mongering, some not, but none of the happy ones had that as a primary motivation, it seemed. One guy said it was great for him just to be able to head to a massage parlor once a week or so, and just live quietly the rest of the time. That model really doesn't sound all that bad.

I'd also add another group to your ex-pat category: guys who became permanent residents before the rules changed on that a while back. I know a few of them, one of whom is basically secure enough financially via inheritance to do as he pleases, (though he says he'd have a tougher time elsewhere than LOS with his income unless the stock market goes way back up) who's been there for a very long time and has settled down and in, and a couple of others who have lived there forever, a couple who has theior own small businesses and a couple who either do some teaching or work with NGOs.

BTW -- a 50% divorce rate is actually a heck of a lot better than I'd have expected, considering how many of these farangs and TGs hook up. I'd have though it would be a lot higher instead of basically the same as the US rate.

Terry Terrier

11-18-04, 22:49

Coma Boy

I'm pissing well offended with your associating Chester with the cultural nirvana that is Manchester.

It is, in fact, a retirement area/'shopping centre' (if it's not nailed down, help yourself) for Liverpudlians.

Hope this clears the air like a good shower.

Coma Boy

11-20-04, 20:20

I apologise; a faux-pas of biblical proportions.

Despite all of the North being grim, it is unfair to associate any area with Liverpool.

Samus Aran

11-29-04, 12:08

SA thought he would jump in to the discussion about marrying a Pattaya girl.

Clandestine:

SA is going to quote a line from the movie Old School: "DON'T DO IT!"

You are asking for huge problems. Advice given by others is accurate. Particularly form a poster who said that you are looking at this marriage from a western perspective, particularly an American one. Seems your just another loser dude who hopes to save some hooker from her life of fucking for money. This will not happen. Many of the humping machines enjoy the freedom that their profession brings. Its a non stop party. Meeting new people... getting to go on trips throughout Thailand etc.... Is she really going to be happy settling down in some country town in lets say Wyoming? SA wouldnt! Yuck Wyoming... Advice from one poster suggesting you meet an asian studying in the USA ata college mite be a better choice. But, please dont go lookin for a bride in the biggest skank haven in the world, Pattaya! Does your friend not like you? SA suggests that maybe you try and hook up with a hooker in the USA and see if dating and carrying on a relationship is manageable. SA guesses you could learn form your mistake if you go through with this. But, wouldnt it be more appealing to learn from the mistakes of others? Regardless, SA will say it again:

DON'T DO IT!!!

SA

The Traveler

11-29-04, 20:37

... Many of the humping machines enjoy the freedom that their profession brings. Its a non stop party. Meeting new people... getting to go on trips throughout Thailand etc....

SA,

living in Thailand for some years now you should know better.
OK, you said many, not all, but this is most likely a very very small minority. The vast majority definitely prefers to have a calm and decent life.

Suppose you would have been a thai pro, would you like to have sex with some of those old, fat and smelly tourists you like to talk about so often ?

Samus Aran

11-29-04, 23:05

Philo

12-02-04, 15:57

SA

Pure sociological philosophy.

Thanks.

Ph

The Traveler

12-02-04, 23:25

traveler:

and so many of these humping machines would rather be permanently attached to some old, fat, and smelly man living in butt fuck egypt nowheresville usa or sound of music european city in the alps? sa seriously doubts that she would be happy there! and even if the money is good, even thai girls will get bored of some old fat boring lard ass.

and when they have a kid, the poor thai girl will have to change the [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) of both old man huby and baby and mite have to feed both of them with a spoon. and, sa doubts she can do that properly. you see, these thai humpers are used to having baby then sending baby up to be raised by their mom or grandma in some one buffalo town in isaan so she can go back to screwing in the bar. grannie isnt going to be there to help this time. these hos dont have any mothering skills. this comes from having lived in thailand as long as sa has and seeing how kids are raised. even babies from normal thai couples are poorly raised. usually, it is some 4th grade educated isaan maid doing the nurturing who then goes out during nap time to try and get a few extra baht by working on her "back" or "knees.". thai hos will never make a good wife or a good mother!

let face it, the quality of man visitng pattaya and looking for a bar ho to be his wife is very low. remember, pattaya is attracting the bottom feeders of both western and thai society.

...

sa

thais girls often are very proud people and not as money orientated as many might believe here. they will give shit about the money if they do not like a guy for whatever reason. therefore they won't stay with him in nowheresville if they don't want to.

i also often wondered how easily (at least it looks like that) they hand their kids over to other family members to raise them. but they still do care very much about them. why else do many work in this kind of business ?

regarding nurses, i do not know how much "insight" you have into other ordinary middle class or hi-so families, but the ones that i have seen
are raised quite well by their nurses. nurses - especially if they are young in the age of 15-20 - are sometimes treated like a family member. the kids therefore pay them as much respect as they would do for an older sister. but very often thais do treat their maids and other employees like shit. being treated like that i guess there is not much to be expected from them.

in general i agree to what you say, also about the quality of many (again not all) tourists visiting pattaya. but i disagree that thai hos will never make a good wife or a good mother! i have seen the opposite. many of my friends are married to thais, some where regulars, others hos before marriage. i can't see much difference between them and a white wife, only that they are usually more determined to their husband. i guess it is very important that a girl hasn't been in the sex biz for too long. after some time and the bad experiences that come with it they seem to degenerate and only think negative about their customers. maybe they have their reasons for it, who knows.

Samus Aran

12-03-04, 15:41

Fellas,

Can somebody please tell SA why is it improtant that sex tourists in Thailand need to pick up that stupid Thai LAnguage for Lovers book? SA witnessed a man today stocking up on these books to impress his skank ho! Is this truly necessary? Why can't some of these fellas just treat this girls like pros and be done with them after one session? Do they think they have a chance of winning a skanks heart for a possible marriage with his inlimited knowledge of pillow talk? Do these hos care if you speak the love language or not? SA knows they don't give a damn. Are these guys hoping to sweet talk these girls? Money talks in this game and all of these girls will choose the guy with biggest wallet. They don't give hoot if you speak the language or not. And, SA knows Traveller will jump all over this but deep down he knows what SA says is true. None of these thai bar girls are worth getting to know other than in bed.

Fyuthermore, could somebody please explain to SA what a GFE experience entails. Cause if it is anything like the sexual experiences that a girlfriend provides, count SA out. Are you guys looking for love and tenderness? Cuddly and all romantic? SA would rather have the SHE. That is the **** Ho Experience. Some ***** who just does everything you ask of her and then when you are done, you pay her and send her away. No after sex talk... just raw sex! To SA that is more appealing than whining and dining some ho and treating her like a girlfirend. And, deep down inside every woman asian or white, wants to be treated like a prostitute in the sexual way. Paid to fuck and be told what to do and then asked to go.

Photo Section is getting real sloppy again. Some nasty photos of a Phuket massage girl who some of you guys think is attractive. Ok, maybe you like the ugly types and after all it is just sex.

SA enjoys reading how some of you guys start categorizing you sexual escapades with a thai hooker. Like saying, "This was the best lay ever!" Jeez, don't give the girls that much credit. Its just sex! MAybe you need to get out more.

Oh well, guess , some of these sex tourists have the worng ideas about screwing a hooker in Thailand

SA

WayneKing

12-06-04, 17:53

SA
I did wonder that very point myself...I only can imagine that once the 'Whats your name...where are you from....age etc..is over it is useful to experiment with a few phrases.
'I want to squeeze it into your arse'....or....'when I put it in there do not bite and suck on it until I pass out!' will be useful. Or perhaps 'can you grunt like a buffallo?' - for the girl, of course.
GFE...just beyond me!?!? I think it means that you are getting less and less sex until you are begging for it...or maybe to have a Pro as a girlfriend. Most likely a combination of both.
The Traveler takes it all rather seriously.......Why?
Photo section...what is going on there? Amazing!
Christmas and the New Year are approaching for a 'Bumper Bonking Bonanza' and I think that if any posters quote this GFE thing they have to explain what on earth they are talking about...
Wayne

Terry Terrier

12-06-04, 20:31

Samus, Wayne

It's quite simple: A GFE is when the prostitute makes an effort to fuck you (in the purely physical sense) instead of behaving like a slab of dead meat, or an obedient puppy dog. Of course, it is usually only obtained by being friendly and chatty with the prostitute, as opposed to treating her like a slab of meat or barking orders at her. It's really not at all difficult treat a prostitute nicely (and I doubt most of us fall in love with everyone with whom we have cordial relations) , and the rewards are usually far greater when one does so.

Unless, of course, one gets one's kicks from treating people badly :-(

The Traveler

12-06-04, 23:51

SA

I won't jump all over this, your message is well known here and you have said nothing new. Therefore no need to comment on it any further.
Just sad that there is no improvement - which way ever - in what you say. Seems you got stuck.

BTW, if other people's ideas differs from yours doesn't mean that they are wrong.

The Traveler

12-07-04, 00:02

SA, Wayneking

I made the experience that mostly weak and insecure guys want to look cool all the time. Real cool guys have no prob to look weak sometimes.
Same counts for girls treatment. Treating them bad and looking down on them makes these guys feeling stronger and more powerful, compensating their insecurity.

Do you fall into this category ?

If not, what's wrong about being able to communicate with your lady of the night ?
Most guys do not just pay for sex, but also for company. Therefore they make a better deal than you do.

BTW, Wayne, you really amaze me, GFE = less sex, LOL, what a nonsense.
You seem to pick the wrong girls or maybe the girls aren't the problem ?

Samus Aran

12-07-04, 00:28

This is for the Tatooed Guy:

SA is a no photo guy. Sexers who take the photos of these girls for keepsakes, desktops, wanking pics etc... are a sad lot. It is totally unnecessary. Then , these guys have the balls to post these pics behind the backs of these girls. Shame on them! SA thinks the whole photo section is a crime and real mongerers go for the sex not for the photo shoot. If a sexer needs fotos for a wank he certainly could visit a bookstore and pic up a Playboy. Hell, we all do it. The fact is, many of these so called experts here in Thailand are true amateurs. Come to Thailand for the sex. Leave the photo taking for sunsets, a pretty temple, flowers, etc...

Traveler you have it wrong. Most guys pay for the sex. Those who insist that you need company from the likes of a 4th grade educated ***** are in the minority like u. IN fact, you pay the girl not for the sex, but pay her to exit your presence! True sexers are in Thailand for procreation, not for long term commitments or entanglements or get to know chats. 1 hour sex sessions are no different if you rent the services of a hooker in USA. 1 hour is a long enuff time to be with a Thai hooker.

Emporium was bustling yesterday with merry makers. Old white men and young guys strolling through the xmas displays with their rented tag a long. Gosh, SA doesnt know how u guys do it! How silly you look to everybody walking like love birds through such a public place. Why is that necessary? Even on the BTS Skytrain! Is this part of the GFE?

Wayneking: Exactly, please defend GFE. GFE to SA means: nagging, wont do this, wont do that, no sex tonite headache, you start the car, etc... If these thai hookers are so great in the sack, please dont use your girlfriend as a comparison. Hookers fuck! Girlfriends ***** and moan. Please come up with a new 3 letter abbreviation.

SA

1Ball

12-07-04, 02:48

I have met more than a dozen WSG posters over the last 2 to 3 years, most of them in BKK. Every one I have met, with the exception of 2, (1 of them is you, SA), has professed to liking the GFE.

Be it to have a pretty companion for dinner, or a tour guide, or someone to wake up with, and enjoy a morning bonk, all agree that the GFE is the only way to go.

Not every TG is suited to a GFE. Some have the 3F attitude, and that’s fine, but they leave me cold. Not interested. But when u find a good one, and it won’t happen everyday, then it is nice to keep them around.

I am not singling out Terry Terrier, but he posted he spent several evenings with the sisters. Would he have had as good a time with them if he just took them to his room for 1 hour? Absolutely not. He went out for drinks, and fun and laughter. To me, and to most, I believe, that is what a trip to LOS is all about.

Another of our esteemed members, whom I have met, is a devout GFE man, hell he spent over 1 month with the same girl on his last trip to LOS. Of course, he did manage a few “escapes” when needed.;)

Posterlion, on another thread, is doing an informal survey of race, nationality, age of our fellow mongers. How about mongers here post a quick comment about whether they like GFE or 3F.
The silent majority should now speak up.

Finally, I don’t go around telling people that their opinion, if different than mine is stupid and idiotic. We can all spend our time and our money as we wish. After all, both of them are ours. So SA, when you decide to splurge on a TG for me, I will 3F her. Until then, allow us to have a mind of our own, and make the choice, without condemning us.

Stepping off my pulpit…..

JuiceSpike

12-07-04, 04:31

Here are my 3 preferences:

FFF: find, fuck and forget
or
FFF: fun friendly fuck :p
or
FFF: find friendly fuck

Does GFE mean the girl you hire will be sweet and romantic like a "regular" girl would be if she was your girlfriend, except you pay her to fuck you? :confused:

I have never really understood the GFE.

SA, check out my latest vacation picture... :D

juice

Joe Zop

12-07-04, 08:25

I've frankly never understood the concept that I should find someone who I like fucking and spending time with and then get rid of her as quickly as possible, especially if it's someone who also treats me particularly well. I agree that might be a good defense for the weak-willed or weak-hearted who might fall in love with a sex worker and flush themselves down the drain, but if I'm flushing I've either been pushing the wrong lever or the plumbing is sure as hell plugged. I wish someone could explain to me how I'm better off heading out in the hope I can luck out and find another good partner as opposed to a starfish, a clock-watcher, a rip-off artist, etc., knowing it's generally less than 50/50 I'm going to find what I want.

As far as the education stuff goes -- I've met plenty of PhDs I don't care to waste a single minute on because they're educated idiots, assholes, or bores (and I've lots of PhD friends who are the opposite) and I've met plenty of very bright and nice people with little or no schooling. People come in all stripes.

And I've obviously got a different sense of girlfriends than do others here -- mine doesn't include bitching and complaining, but instead involves a lot of affectionate pampering.

WayneKing

12-07-04, 10:17

Traveller
Tell me how it works with Girlfriends in the West.
You meet at a bar, party or whatever and there follows a frenzid shagging fest for a few days or a week or two....then things mysteriously change. Granted you can not be at it all day every day...hence my point. If you pay a girl you get what you pay for. As much or as little as you like.
If you really believe all the crap about love. jai dit, etc....stop and wake up.
You live in Thailand...walk out of your door and ask the first five girls how much they earn. I would be surprised if the average is over Bht 10K pcm.
If you want to really have a GFE experience stop all money. Do not give a penny more to the GF and you will see what she is really made of.
I do not say you have to treat these girls badly... but by giving them a large sum of money for a quick shag you are doing them a huge favour.
I suggest you keep the GFE to real girls who actually work and have a reasonable idea what real life is all about. Paying a girl to treat you nicely is pretty sad....but each to his own. Good luck! Do the money test...it really works!
You will be telling me that they really do have sick buffalos as well!
Wayne

Coma Boy

12-07-04, 10:40

I don't pay the girls for sex, I pay them to go away the next morning.

Maybe.

1Ball

12-07-04, 11:34

Post card from a newbie.

Let’s see now, I landed in BKK, fresh off the boat 4 days ago. First time in Asia. The smells, the heat, the food, the women, it is so exhilarating.

I have done my DD, have RTFF. However for the first 3 days, I have performed what some might call necrophilia on 3 different TGs over 3 different nights. They seemed like they would be a lot of fun when I met them, each in a different bar or go go, but when we got back to my room, they were like starfish. Nothing, they just lay there, one even asked me if I was finished yet. As soon as we were done, they all jumped up to get dressed, I mean, I had barely finished, was collecting my thoughts, and they were already headed for the door. What a disappointment. What is the big deal about these Thai girls that makes guys come back over and over again?

And then last night, things changed. I met a really cute girl, 23, a couple of stretch marks, but still really cute, really fun, semi decent english, we had a great time laughing and joking, as we stopped at a noodle shop on our way by to “monger central”. When it was time to pay, the shopkeeper was asking for too much money, and my TG butted in, and set her straight. Cool!! Once we got to the room, things got even better. Let me tell you, a real tiger in bed. Great BBBJ, CIM, she moaned and groaned at the appropriate moments, I think she got her “O”, but don’t really care. When it was over, I was telling her I was thirsty, she jumped into her jeans, ran down to 7-11, and bought a few beers. She then gave me a massage. I fell asleep with a smile on my face, only to be awoken by her giving me head, after a good 8 hours sleep, well if course, I had to oblige.

I had so much fun with her, we had breakfast, and I told her I was going to do some sightseeing, and would like to see her later. She offered to take me sightseeing herself, to show me stuff the tour buses don’t go to. What a great day we had, she helped me bargain for a few souvenirs, found a great place to eat lunch. I am looking forward to seeing her tonight.

I am leaving for Ko Samui in 3 more days, should I dump her tomorrow morning, and go on the prowl again? I mean, there are thousands of girls out there; there must be some even better than this one. On the other hand, I have already met 3 who are really terrible. So what are my odds? I have read in the forum that Ko Samui has slim pickings, should I bring her with me, have a great time with her, eat drink, fuck and be merry, or should I pick up an ugly fat one in Samui for another 20 minute starfish experience?

Should I go the 3F route, and roll the dice, or grab this GFE, and head for the beach?

What to do, what to do, can someone please help me? I have mongered in other parts of the world, and will not fall into the sick buffalo trap, but this girl is really a good time, I think I'm going to ask her to come along with me, what do you think ?

thanks, having fun in LOS,

Newbie.

Domino

12-07-04, 11:39

juice spike: gfe stands for whatever you like. the above is close, i think.

i had a gfe by nakhon si t's train station last night. hags from hell pulling my dick, trying to dip me. same in my room, the only presentable one brought a 30+ glue sniffer back with her. refused to fuck, did me for 2 heinekens (which i confirep001ed and gave to the security guards), hassle with pimps (who got more than they bargained for, not thinking an old man and a short stick would be more of a match for both of them). when i have girl friends, i feel comportable with them. they do not have taxi meters appended to their pussies and thye do not expect to be paid extra for kissing me. gfe and taxi meter woman are mutually exclusive

oh! i wander. has anyone had a girl friend of 30+ in the west who sniffs glue, is grizzly, frightening, egly(:)). to equate these people with girl friends is an insult to most thai and other women. sure, lots of the skanks have good hearts etc etc. but they are peasants. and peasants presumably like peasants.

either gladiator or seydlitz posted a long time ago about touring los with a young skank. positives: being rimmed, sucked, fucking, help with some car directions. negatives: doing young teenage stuff all day (mobile phoning, watching kiddy tv etc).

juice spike posted a photo of a skank in a 3f hat. maybe he should post it here too.

won't be long for christmas. wonder what my nana girl friend is getting me. i am getting her a big 200 baht gold chain.

domino in domino land.

ps: why was nana called after a notorious frecnh hooker who has notiona above her station about herself?

Terry Terrier

12-07-04, 13:39

Newbie

Take her to Koh Samui. If you find any skirt worth playing around with while you're there, pack your regular off to the pool, or a shopping trip, or suchlike. Simple. Have your cake and eat it.

Wayne

Why is paying a girl for sex and being treated nicely by her sad? Is being treated nicely by restaurant waiting staff, the bank clerk, the guy from whom you're buying your new car, also sad? Surely, it's all about keeping things in perspective. When we use the services of a prostitute, we are entering into a business transaction and paying for a service. We aren't buying love, and we all know that. It's simply about maximising your enjoyment with the girl. Posting here to tell mongers they are sad/silly/deluding themselves is as daft as going to the cinema and telling everyone: "What are you lot doing? This is all fake. They're only acting. Can't you idiots see that?"

JuiceSpike

12-07-04, 14:07

Newbie,

Well, it looks like you have a dilemma in your hands. On the one hand, Samui does not have lots of good girls for hire but Samui is a place to relax and to get away from mongering… On the other hand, your new friend sounds like an avid experienced bed companion maybe worth tagging along.

If you are a happy man staying with her all the time then maybe you should consider bringing her with you. If you do this and want to sample Samui pussy then make it clear that you will need some time alone so that you can find other girls. Or, better yet, you can tell her that you are keen on 2 girls and ask if she would be OK to bring a girl every other night for a 3some. If she really likes you, she will say “yes.”

If you do take her with you she will be a happy camper as she will make some good baht with one guy and that's good for her.

Hope you find happiness.

juice

1Ball

12-07-04, 14:38

Terry, you mean James Bond isn't really James Bond??? well knock me over with a feather, I was wondering why his face kept changing every 7 to 10 years, now I know !!!

Ever Ready

12-07-04, 14:44

Domino, Juice.
Of course it could mean Ghastly F**ing Experience...
ER

JuiceSpike

12-07-04, 14:58

The GFE might be in many situations the worst thing you could do to a working girl.

Here is why. Many of these girls are really looking to catch a Farang to have a better life and stop fucking around… I have asked many girls whether they hope to find husband and the majority have said yes. The thing is that many of these girls have unrealistic expectations and dreams. They think that once they find a Farang boyfriend or husband everything will be fine. Of course there are the skanks only looking for the sucker to feed them money and even though the majority of the girls have good intentions they are all interested in the security and money thing as their first priority. A Farang is an easy way out of prostitution. It makes sense.

The problem is this. Many lover boys go romancing these girls and creating false expectations and promises they will not keep. Most girls are not bitter from spanking guys like me :p they are bitter from assholes that promised them the world and then bail out on them. They do not mind the guy who fucks them and leaves them because that’s their business, they do not mind the guy who demands fun kinky sex (in a friendly way :D) because that’s is expected and some girls love to fuck wild and try new things.

I have met girls that have a sucker pretending to “love” them sending them money but she is still out there fucking around not entirely for the money but because they really don’t feel loved. They are bitter and hurt. These girls are great to fuck.

I realize that the GFE is more of an attitude than making promises to a hooker. But, a woman is a woman and if you romance her too much she will get funny ideas in her head. She will think you really “want” her. “Want” her has nothing to do with sex. It has to do with love and acceptance and real respect. Jing, jing.

I have asked girls that I meet and talk to why they like me and they tell me because I don't give them “bullshit…” So, for me the Find Friendly Fuck or Find Fuck and Forget works.

I prefer hookers for just fun raw fucking. I already have a gf for more and the same :)....

juice

JuiceSpike

12-07-04, 15:33

She was lots of fun. She asked me what the hat meant and I told her. She laughed and said "that's me, find, fuck and forget..."

juice

Terry Terrier

12-07-04, 15:39

1ball

Sorry to shatter your illusions, but I bet you also never knew that the moon landing was, in fact, filmed on a porno set in Silicon Valley.

Joe Zop

12-07-04, 16:00

Juice, I agree that leading someone on is leading someone on, and that's not a very nice thing to do regardless. But there's no need to pretend love or serious intentions -- you can get very good GFE results simply by acknowledging the reality of the situation: that you're a customer and nothing more, that you will be leaving at X point and things will be completely over, and that it's simply easier on the TG involved if she knows as long as you remain happy she can count on a steady income and won't have to troll for another customer who might not be as nice. In the same way a sex worker can give affection without being in love with you, it's possible to do it as a customer, and it's generally just as appreciated.

I like the meaningless shag and the thrill of a new body as much as anyone, but I also like a sure thing, and when I'm in another country without a girlfriend a faux version can be a nice no strings attached substitute.

Philo

12-07-04, 16:34

SA is a no photo guy. Sexers who take the photos of these girls for keepsakes, desktops, wanking pics etc... are a sad lot. It is totally unnecessary. Then , these guys have the balls to post these pics behind the backs of these girls. Shame on them! SA thinks the whole photo section is a crime and real mongerers go for the sex not for the photo shoot. If a sexer needs fotos for a wank he certainly could visit a bookstore and pic up a Playboy ...
SA

SA

I thank you for this passage.

This is what I said 6-12 months ago in the photo thread: THIS (the photo thread) IS FOR LOOSERS!

And most (or all) of the pictures must be from a zoo of waterbuffaloes.. They do not resemble at all the women I meet in Siam.

With regards
Ph

JuiceSpike

12-07-04, 17:53

I know you have your head straight but you would be surprised (maybe not) at how many girls complain and are bitter because of the romancing type playing with the girl's heart and leading them on...

juice

JuiceSpike

12-07-04, 17:59

Philo,

Hmm, please define "looser" in the context of this site...:rolleyes: Are you a looser when you just post pictures or when you also look at them...?

:D

juice

Coma Boy

12-07-04, 18:06

Philo is just bitter because he can't spell.

Maybe someone will buy him a camera for Xmas, and if he can read the instruction manual, perhaps we'll see a few of his snap-shots.

Samus Aran

12-07-04, 18:13

Fellas:

SA feels GFE should be changed to Great Fucking Experience (or as another put it Ghastly Fucking Experience.) ALthough, SA still feels that this is giving too much credit for a few cumshots with a hooker. Too many of you go way overboard when having sex with a Thai hooker. Afterall it is just a paid orgasm. And with quality of some of the sex tourists that SA has seen lately, no wonder the girls have to be paid to be friendly. Furthermore, when SA sees the disgusting photos displayed in the photo section SA now understands where you guys are coming from. Any hooker who looks that bad will work hard to get your friendship and some of you guys fall real easily for it. Furthermore, when SA sees some guys with some really nasty hos walking around the shopping centers SA wonders do you guys actually try to get the nastiest looking girls in Thailand? SA knows that Domino doesnt try. They actually flock to him.

For you photo enthusiats, please get better subjects. The photo gallery is really a site for sore eyes and nothing to brag about. Better yet, leave your camera out of the bedroom or out of the massage parlor. Stick to screwing.

1ball and others:

You pay hookers to fuck not to be your friend or hold your hand. Juice has it correct. RAw sex. When you go to a restaurant, you pay for them to take your order and deliver your food. You then dont ask them to perform sex on you.

These thai bar girls prefer to be fucked hard and fast and then returned to the street with cash in hand. Not in any mean way. You do them a disservice by prolonging some fake relationship with them. Fuck them and pay them. Does the shoe salesman who sold you a pair of shoes want to go and have lunch with you after the sale? No! He wants to get back on the floor to make more sales! Same as a hooker in Thailand!

They tell you guys that they want to find a husband but why are u listening to the words of a sex provider? Lying is part of their occupation. Can u believe them? They tell u that cause they know that is what you want to hear. Why are you even asking them that kind of question? Do you ask this question to other sex providers in other countries? This brings SA to another question....

Is a hooker in one country different from a hooker in another country? Arent the services the same? Are there different definitions of what a hooker does in one country than another or what is expected of them? SA has rarely seen an elderly white man in a midwestern USA city prancing hand in hand with a young hooker through an upscale shopping center. Why do men feel inclined to do it in Thailand and stink up the place? Please shed some lite on this subject. Are the services of a hooker in USA not good because they dont want to spend the day walking around the city with their customers after they have just fucked and milked them?

SA

Philo

12-07-04, 19:34

jc

i will do it the thai way: up to you...

i don't fucking care what you think about me being a photo section peeper or not.

but i shure know that i would prefer real porn if i wanted it.

please understand this: suckers who takes and posts pictures of *****s are morons.

that's it. the rest is 'leuw te khun'.

ph

The Traveler

12-07-04, 20:16

Traveller

...If you pay a girl you get what you pay for. As much or as little as you like.
If you really believe all the crap about love. jai dit, etc....stop and wake up. ...
Paying a girl to treat you nicely is pretty sad....

Wayne,

as I have already said, I do not only pay for sex but also for having a nice companion.
I agree with Joe Zop. If I found someone I like and is fun to be with, why should I discard her immediately after I came off ? Doesn't make sense to me.
Having found a diamond - which is hard enough - I will keep her as long as I enjoy it. It's more fun to hang out with a cute, sexy, talkative and funny girl than just alone. I prefer quality over quantity.

Why do you believe SA is nagging about other people's innocent behaviour at the Emporium all the time ? If he would have a cute and sexy girl around him he would focus on something else instead of other people's business.

Furthermore you confuse GFE with love, jai dee and sick buffalos. GFE is the way someone treats you and makes you feel. There is no love involved, who falls in love that quick ? Silly, it's a deal, a good time for me and good money for her.

Since I am no masochist, I DO in fact pay them for giving me a good time and treating me nice. I guess you are as sad as me, or do you prefer to pay them to give you a bad time and behave like a starfish ?

The Traveler

12-07-04, 20:26

I don't pay the girls for sex, I pay them to go away the next morning.

Maybe.
Coma Boy,

If you pay them to leave, why did you pick them up in the first place ?

JuiceSpike

12-07-04, 20:37

philo,

since when you have become thai? :eek:

up to me. ok, here it is. for your info the photo section is not a "porn" section, it is just a photo section with all kinds of pictures.

you wrote eloquently: "please understand this: suckers who takes and posts pictures of *****s are morons." you should also add suckers who look at the pictures but don't post are morons too......:d....

and btw, i don't think i'm smart, i know i'm smart. :d

peeper, don't forget to check the latest photo entries in the photo section. enjoy.

juice

The Traveler

12-07-04, 20:50

Traveler you have it wrong. Most guys pay for the sex. Those who insist that you need company from the likes of a 4th grade educated ***** are in the minority like u. IN fact, you pay the girl not for the sex, but pay her to exit your presence! True sexers are in Thailand for procreation, not for long term commitments or entanglements or get to know chats. 1 hour sex sessions are no different if you rent the services of a hooker in USA. 1 hour is a long enuff time to be with a Thai hooker.

SA,

how do you know what most guys like ?
Have you read the same replies like me ?

Doesn't look like guys like me are the minority.
No one here insists in NEEDing company, but we PREFER to have some. It's our free will, so what's wrong with it ?

You also confuse education with humor and attitude. A girl doesn't need to know about rocket science to give a man a good time.

If 1 hour is enough for you, cool, nobody complains. It's your choice.
But why do you always insist that your way is the only true way ?
What qualifies you for that ?

I have spend far more time in LOS than you and no girl has managed to suck me out financially (in other terms they were indeed successful :D).
So what's your point ? Scared of them ? I am not.

I sometimes enjoy to have someone around me, especially if that person is cute, sexy, talkative, fun to be with and willing to fuck my brains out.
It's my choice, why not accept it like I accept yours ?

Instead of repeating useless macho talk, show me the disadvantages of my behaviour. I can't see any.
I will keep her as long as I enjoy it, play to the rules and keep things straight - just like Juice pointed out - and it will be fun for both.

The Traveler

12-07-04, 21:15

i don't fucking care what you think about me being a photo section peeper or not.

please understand this: suckers who takes and posts pictures of *****s are morons.

philo,

you already displayed your extensive knowlegde about the photo section, even rated the pics, so you must be a peeper. how else could you know ?

who is the bigger moron, the one who is in a certain situation and is taking pictures or the one who is only looking at other peoples pictures ?
the former has some connection to the pics, the latter has none at all. so if you do not like pics why do you look at other ones ?

1Ball

12-08-04, 00:15

"IN fact, you pay the girl not for the sex, but pay her to exit your presence!"

seems like an expensive hobby, paying someone to leave. SA, i'm on my way over, you can give ME the 1,000 to exit. let's see, 1 exit every 15 seconds is 4 exits per minute, 4,000 Baht per minute, that's 240,000 Baht per hour.

I HAVE FOUND MYSELF A NEW JOB !!!!

If you are paying her to exit, what was the purpose of having her enter in the first place? I have never , nor will I ever understand what the rush is to get rid of a good provider. I have never been to a hooker in the USA, so I cannot compare the services, but to say you are getting yourself a provider, for the purpose of kicking her out is moronic (word du jour, it seems)

Joe Zop

12-08-04, 03:15

Umm, I don't know about what the rest of you guys are all about, but I'm not paying actually for an exit, I'm paying for entering... :D

Juice, I absolutely agree there are plenty of TGs who feel abused by farangs who've led them on. Of course, there are also many farangs who feel the same way about TGs. The TG side of the equation -- in terms of misleading farangs as a means of maximizing income -- has been discussed here many times, but as far as mongers leading TGs on, I think it comes down to three things:

1. We've all been part of the at times immediate upping of the ante by TGs, where you've hooked up, shagged, and perhaps paid and suddenly she professes great attachment and future plans. Some guys react by saying, whoa, I'm out of here. Some react as I do, by saying, no, I am the customer and you are the provider, which can be fun but will end immediately if you're having trouble understanding that is our relationship. Some guys react by saying, sure honey, whatever you say. And they mean it or they don't.

2. There's been a fair amount of sentiment posted on this board that basically says, well, they're wh*res, so screw them and screw them; she's playing a game, so I'll play, too. In the case of a TG actually looking to hook up with someone for real, that can obviously do damage, same as happens in reverse.

3. Given the number of idiots who actually get taken to the cleaners, who marry bargirls, change their lives, etc., I expect there are also a fair number of guys who get to LOS, become entranced by a TG and actually commit to a relationship, then at some point wake up or rediscover reality and simply take the easy way out by backing out or disappearing. Obviously, if the TG has truly bought in, that hurts.

But GFE certainly doesn't have to mean emotional damage (or undue attachment) gets inflicted on either party. To my mind, if there's serious attachment then you're not doing the girlfriend experience, you're having a girlfriend. BIG difference.

Coma Boy

12-08-04, 03:32

Actually was just joking about that.

I normally hang out with girls for a few days at a time, generally see them again. Living here I bump into them all the time so if I like the girl we normally become friends.

Sometimes though, if a girl is hanging around unnecessarily, and I have things to do, paying her is a good sign that it's time to go.

I remain firmly single but many of my encounters encompass the dreaded GFE *shudder*.

I agree with you guys- if I'm paying a girl, I want her to be nice to me. It is kind of obvious.

Although there are situations when I'd pay a girl to be cruel- very cruel.

Coma Boy

12-08-04, 04:03

Domino

12-08-04, 04:15

I find once I take a few photos of these skanks, I bore of it. The "cure" for me was Phitsanalok some time ago. Bonking so many that there is no time - or need to ask their names.

I am now in a shit heap of a town where it is 1 baht 1 minute on a shit internet. Better towns have it for 20 baht. Skanks are the same. When you are renting a skank, you are buyng an illusion and SA is good to remind us of that. Some time ago, Gladiator gave us a report of a sad fool cutting himself up over some skank who blew him out.

Others, including Skinless, Purple n Gold, Tapioca have posted emails from skanks to their cash cows. Skanks are like hard drink: ok in moderation but some people are addicted and some of those have serious problems with their addictions. They want to believe there is something more with them than there is. Divorcees, newbies etc. Sure, tarts with hearts are out there. But by the time you wash away all the filth the bars and go gos and customers put on them, what is left? And what more has congealed?
These women have a lot of issues to deal with. They are very good at hiding it but if you want to buy into it, caveat emptor.

I will post some skanky photos soon: to point out some skank lessons. Some people have a good way with the camera and their photos can be good that way. But most photos are awaste of time, and a massive waste of Jackson's bandwidth.

As regards the title: will anyone here admit to sending money to a Thai skank?

Daring Mood

12-08-04, 05:43

Domino,

I admit to sending money.. about US$100, but it was two years ago, to a bird from Safari (Papong), just once.... I got the picture when she arrived at the airport to meet me, accompanied by her two year son and 60 year old mother (luckily she send them home when we arrived in ths Shangri la). But I have grown up :-)

Daring Mood

Daring Mood

12-08-04, 05:49

Domino

I have enjoyed reading your posts, and wanted to put forward a theory I have in that expectation that you will provide your humble opinion :-)

Isn't curious how many of these women have lost their husbands in a "Motorbike accident"?

I think I know the true meaning of "motorbike accident". During my regular visits to BKK I meet the same single mother Esarn, works in a legit massage shop, and is not your bargirl/pay for sex type. When I first met her, about a year ago, through a farang friend, she told me her Thai husband had been wiped out in a motorbike accident two years previously.

Last week she called me to say her husband had (miraculously) reappeared demanding the right to see his son, and wanting her to come home, etc etc... She's being taking care of the son for the past three years, all her money going towards his eductaion.

She tells me she left the husband because he was a drunk, a bastard, a womaniser, leech... etc

So it would appear that "Motorbike accident" really means "my husband is alive, but I wish he was dead".

IMHO,

Daring Mood

JuiceSpike

12-08-04, 14:40

Joe,

It makes a lot of sense what you say on your approach to GFE but I wonder if your approach would work on the field for others. You have a clear understanding and strategy based on your experiences but the regular guy going there has no clue of the issues you present.

Thai girls are (compared to US women in general) genuinely friendly and playful on the surface and I wonder if this is what makes some guys think that they are getting a “real” GFE or is just biz as usual for the girls. To me, it’s biz as usual, not in a cynical sense but in a realistic sense. Once the guy thinks he is getting something “real” then the back and forth game or flirting and romancing to make each other feel better starts and it can spiral to some nonsense “lover” like feeling that it will leave one dumped and hurt. Girls are by nature friendly and use this to their advantage for their biz as any sales person would.

Also, I have heard comments from mongers on how “awesome” Thai girls are but they don’t seem to understand the cultural difference in values and communicating standards. There are big difference in culture that are deeper than the casual friendly chatting of which all is seen by our western perspective. Once you have a good rapport with them most Thai working girls when asked if they really like Farangs will tell you this “they are OK, it’s my job.” They look at Farangs as “clients” not as romantic or BF material.

I find Thai women very friendly and playful, they are great companions, easy going and accommodating to your needs and wants. I see this as part of the service and not necessarily as a GFE that to me belongs to a woman I really “want” and not pay her to be with me or to fuck me.

So, FFF to me is better suited for cash for sex entertainment.

I also pay to enter... but what goes in must come out....:D

juice

Joe Zop

12-09-04, 05:54

Juice, you may be right that others might find my approach difficult, though I honestly don't see what's tough about it -- it's really just approaching everything that happens as a business transaction, making that clear, and looking for the maximum amount of good time available. As you say, most TGs look at farangs strictly as "clients" so my approach is generally fine with them, as we both know what's what and then it's just a matter of sexual and personal compatability being there or not. (And both naturally matter mostly from my perspective, since I'm the one who either is or isn't kept satisfied by that -- she's kept satisfied by the baht paid.)

I think in some way this may be a matter of semantics: I don't call doing things or having feelings with a girlfriend a GFE -- I call that "having a girlfriend." To me, a GFE is by definition an "experience" and not the real thing in the same way that a movie or a play is an "experience" and not real life. Doesn't mean you can't get carried away for a time or that you don't want the movie to make me believe it's as real as possible -- you just know, as in LOS, that when the show's over it's time to go back to real life.

I agree that many guys get fooled by a lack of understanding of the cultural differences. And if they can get fooled, then they should do the 3Fs and stay safe, and, in addition to that, probably take a look at their real motivations for going to Thailand and considering hooking up with sex worker TGs. If it's remotely to get a girlfriend or "fall in love" then SA is completely right and they have only two options if they want to avoid pain -- either practice the 3Fs religiously or else catch the first plane home, where they should work on getting a real relationship. If you actually want a girlfriend then you should not fiddle with the GFE no matter where you are, imho, as doing so sets you up for a world of hurt.

Terry Terrier

12-09-04, 07:58

Samus

You're saying that I can't boom boom that bank clerk or car sales on demand? Really? Now I understand why I have 43 new cars, 320 bank accounts and over 1000 pairs of shoes!!!

Maybe I should conduct all my business transactions by sign language, or preferably semaphore from a distance, in order to avoid being taken in emotionally by the provider. And I'm quite sure that service ang goods providers (whether they be prostitutes, car sales, whatever) don't want to do anything so silly as enjoy their working day.

After all, the day-to-day business of life isn't meant to be enjoyed. Only it's computer simulations are. Right?

John05

12-09-04, 09:11

It is a well known fact that most of the WSG members will never meet a classic "good girl" from the LOS.

It takes a long time to really get to know one and most of us do not literally have the time (forget about the patience). There are many in the North and other parts of the country who are faithful, passionate, loving, caring and will cook for you every day and take care of you for the rest of your life. Many are quite lovely.

Perfect girl...right? Well yes and no is the answer. Many Thai men also would like to have a HOT, SEXY, SEX KITTEN once in a while too. The first girl is the lady who you want your parents to meet and you end up marrying. The second one is a short term rental but the sex is fantastic and she can satisfy your every bedroom fantasy.

So you have the situtation that there are no perfect girls. You have to determine what compromises that you want to make if you really want one long term. Otherwise you can be quite happy with the one night stands. There is a high chance of getting some STD over the long term with these but millions of people take that risk every year. In Bangkok alone there are many styles of women for every taste. You really need to speak good Thai and spend a lot of hours on the real angels who are not P4P.

BTW, I have found out, through a lot of field research, many of the educated middle class Thais are not that much different from the American girls you left behind. It helps if you have money and are good looking and young because quite a few are materialistic. Why? Because, just like in Brazil, there are thousands of rich locals who will pay big bucks to be with the best of the best. Did you give her a car, nice condo or buy her designer clothes lately? Well Thai guys will offer it constantly and hang around her like bees to honey until one snags her. They are not at all shy about going for it and they have a language and cultural advantage on you.

In the end, you have to ask yourself if all of that effort is really worth it. Many resident expats are quick to figure this out and go for the upcountry (figuratively less educated and intelligent) type or go for teaching English so that they can catch one while she is young and more naive. Of course there are just as many expats who like the sexy ones versus "good girl" because they are ...well...sexier. The P4P girls are hot.

Bangkok is THE city in Thailand. Nothing else comes close. Pretty girls quickly learn that their looks will get them anything that they want from any Thai man....sound familiar? In the world of Thais, Bangkok is like New York City ten times over. There are many other cities in other parts of the country which you can find numerous GFEs. Sad?...Well do not be sad because there are many exceptions. You can luck into the educatged Thai ladies who have studied (and had sex) abroad. Also good girls who married an old expat who has passed away. Then, the rare Thai girl who is sick of the locals cheating on her and wants a "good man" from another country.

There are millions of different types of women in the LOS. What is your type and how much effort will you put into getting the white rhino? Like the true big game hunter, who wants that special reward, it will require time, money and a lot of patience to get that rare animal (ref: classic Thai girl...pure perfection). Most of us will pay less and simply go to many kinds of restaurants so we can sample a little of every type of animal (see Bar Girl, MP, Escort, Bahn Pooying, Uni Girl, Members only Cocktail Lounge, etc.).

There are times that most mongerers will wonder if these wonderful ladies are myth or urban legend because they have never personally met one. They do not work in Patpong, Nana, Soi Cowboy or any other Massage Parlor that you have frequented on P4P trips to the LOS. You can marry any of these ladies too, if you want, and maybe be happy forever. Perfection, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder.

Domino

12-09-04, 09:50

Daring Mood

I have recently been in a motorbike accident but I am not married to a Thai skank (yet). I am breaking one in right now. She will bbbj but nothing else. Juice Spike will tell you when I met him, I was on the lookout for Little Lek, world's greatest fuck machine. Someone put a spanner in there. She now barebacks and is a right pain in the ass. We fucked yesterday but have now parted on unfriendly terms: something about 600 baht not being enough. She is truly fucked up in the head now. (maybe I am too but I am not a Thai skank). SA: never fuck the same skank twice.

The current one has a day time job, lives with Mom and has 6,000 baht in the bank. She is headed for big things. One of which is Mr Skinless.

Have many Thai husbands been wiped out in motorbike accidents? Yes. But, as JS points out, their cultural starting point is so much different from ours. Our bs and lies are actually much worse in my humble opinion. One of the highlights of my visits to Thailand was going to the village on the back of a motorbike driven by a Pattaya soi 6 hooker. Good lady who explained a lot to me.

There is a huge whale of a guy walking around with the tiniest beauty you can imagine. Even the old regulars comment on it. There is a fuckhole here for all. It is a city of fallen angels.

Choirboys constantly attack Samus Aran for calling a skank a skank. (shit, some have even attacked me, of all people). Yet, look at the Cameroon board where a guy pisses over poor women, humiliates them etc etc. And is lauded as the greatest guy of all.

SA is right on the money singing his mantra. The bigger question is why does he rile so many people. The answer, imho, is he hits a raw nerve. Wait till I post my photos: after I get out of detox.

Philo

12-09-04, 14:06

Philo studys the photo-forum twice daily (perhaps while vigorously masturbating), saves photos, rates photos, complains about photos, spells English badly, spells Karaoke Thai badly- and then calls everyone else morons and "loosers".

Sounds like you're the "looser", you big loser!

May I politely point out that 'studys' should be spelled 'studies'.

Also, thank you for bringing to my attention that a 'loser' 'looses' (I am old and have forgotten my school english (as a second language)).

Apart from this, I wish you the best of luck.

With regards

Yours Ph

Coma Boy

12-09-04, 14:22

LOL. Good comeback.

Damn! I even triple checked my spelling before posting!

Okay, you win this time.

English lesson: A loser "loses", but a loose girl gets "looser" the more partners she has.

Samus Aran

12-09-04, 17:10

Fellas:

SA has still not received any replies from a questions asked before.

Are there any other cities in the world where an elderly gentleman will walk a rather young hooker through shopping malls? Are there any other cities where it is the norm for out of shape men to walk hand in hand down a side walk with a rent away fuck? Please fill SA in. Are there other discussions like the one in the SA section on other areas of the WSG concerning "dating" a hooker ?

See, SA doesnt mind the use of hookers. What SA does mind is the way that some men stink up Thailand by tugging along an associate through stores and restaurants. To tell u the truth, the Thais really dont like the farang in their country. They woukd rather we all go home especially the guys along Suk and the sex areas. They dislike tremendously when they see a young hooker being courted by an elderly man in public. This is the point SA is making. Shit in your own backyard, not someone elses. Best to keep a very low profile in Thailand and keep ur screwing and dirty laundry indoors.

Marauders photos were disgusting. Where did you find such poor subject matter? And u had to pay for her? Watsed yoru cash.

Domino:
SA will repeat the 3 rules of hoing in Thailand. SA doesnt want you to break any others. Other guys should heed them as well.

1. Always pay no matter how bad the service
2. Always use short time hotel rooms. Keep your own place to yourself.
3. Never ever fuck the same hooker twice no matter how "awesome" she is.

Write these down and paste them somewhere to remind you when yoru dick is interferieng with your brain.

SA

JuiceSpike

12-09-04, 18:45

Domino,

Nice report and I feel for you in your quest for an adaptable, manageable and likeable Thai wife. They are out there, especially in the city of fallen angels...:eek:

Treat her well. Teach her the good things about the western world. Please invite me to any or all ceremonies that might take place in the future. I will contribute if she brings along her younger cute sister for me....:p

Detox? You know better. Or is it the "love" detox?

juice

JuiceSpike

12-09-04, 18:51

Joe,

So, ultimately the GFE ends in a FFF ? :D

juice

The Traveler

12-09-04, 19:58

SA,

you have made it quite clear that you don't like to spend more time than necessary with a P4P girl. Cool, your choice.

But why do you complain if others enjoy the presence of their rented P4P girl ?
What are the disadvantages ?

Would be nice if you could tell me about the pro and contras of either behaviour.
No stupid macho talk please, just facts.

I guess there are lots of guys who find it a total waste of time to sit in front of a pc or tv screen and play some stupid video game.
This seems to be your preferred amusement, but nobody complains about it.
I rather prefer to waste my time with a living sex doll than just a simulated one. :)

1Ball

12-09-04, 23:38

Exactly Juice, that's what we all have been saying. Instead of 15 minutes, (Man SA is fast, does that include him pulling down his panties ?? ) and paying her to leave, it means enjoying her for as long as you want, could be 1 night, could be 3 days, could be 1 month, then FFF.

It is tough enough to find someone who makes you feel good. Most of these P4P are going to fuck you like a robot. If you can find one who makes you feel good, makes you laugh, and is good company, you have to be a fucking moron to dump her after 15 minutes. (Does that include pulling his panties back up??)

And TT, you know this, I know this, and everyone knows this except for the occasional newbie who falls upon this drivel once a month, when you ask SA an intelligent question, he is nowhere to be found to engage in an intelligent answer. Just the same BS. Truly sad. Oh well, upwards and onwards, back to my video games, Tallyhooooooooo !!!

Joe Zop

12-10-04, 06:13

Juice, I've certainly never said I'm anti-FFF -- I just don't tend to find it useful when it's taken to the puritanical extreme that says there is no other possibility beyond following the orthodox liturgy each and every time. "Disposable girl theory" is a nice classroom exercise, but it's ultimately rather limiting -- kinda like having the same dish over and over, prepared by different chefs. Yes, there are differences, but it's still the same meal. And there are plenty of TGs I've spent time with that I would prefer to remember, in the same way I like to remember other good times.

Domino

12-10-04, 06:44

Juice Spike
I am going through these women like Thai street food going through my belly. I pulled a nympho last night from Thermae (Japs have all the young cuties). She was great. But only for the first four hours:) So I paid her to leave. A German had bought her a house and a car but now, at 31. she is too old for him and all she can get is cheap old Charlies like me;). German fucks a lot but only for two minutes at a time (13 less than SA). He pays well. So if you know any money hungry young cuties.....

Hanging around Nana:
1. the old timers have the conversations we have.
2. Some of the ladies (and lady boys) drive nice new cars which they park in the lot so the newbies can lean on them as others ogle at them.
3. Met one guy from San Diego. He was "dating" a go go skank, paying her an occasional 600 baht. She blew him out for the fattest (and richest?) old humper in Nana. He cannot understand that the course of true love never runs smooth.

SA: I would not mind so much the guys trawling their fuck holes around with them if they only had some dress sense. Quality, gentlemen, before all else.

Philo: try technical translations. You can do it anywhere, pays well. Speaking of which, I am off to Biergarten to hire some casual laborers.

Terry Terrier

12-10-04, 07:45

Samus

1) Yes, but less so the more expensive the country.

2) Yes, but with the same constraints as explained in (1).

3) You will find plenty (got to be careful here - don't want to upset Jackson) on specialised local forums.

Trust me, Samus, there's a whole wide world out there away from your video games and WSGforum thread.

Samus Aran

12-10-04, 12:36

Terry Terrier,

Thanks for the reply. Just was wondering cause SA doesnt travel to other countries for the women. Many other things to do. Pussy is the same everywhere. Just like McDonalds. Anyways, the result is the same for us men. SA doesnt rate the women and experiences like may of the sexers here do. Calling Thai girls "awesome" as one poster said is a bit overly ambitious!

Fellas,

Is it a priority for you sexers to give your ho an orgasm? SA feels even if she tells you she had 5 orgasms in 30 minutes, do you believe her? Does this make u better than the last guy when she tells you that he didnt get her off? You knows she says this to all of her men. SA feels her body is for my pleasure and she really doesnt care what SA does to it as long as she gets paid! And, SA doesnt care if she gets off or not. See, SA knows after you guys pound on these hos and then she does a few more of you large men, that she is left not satisifed. Then she heads for the boy bars and picks up some Thai boy to do her good. So, dont be shocked when you find this out!

MBK was filled with men and their hired hos. At least you guys look so not out of place because the shopping there is low budget and quality and cheap goods. Just like the tag along with you. She is in her element at MBK.

SA

Philo

12-10-04, 15:52

JuiceSpike

12-10-04, 16:51

Domino,

Nice, funny report and you nailed your keen observations... It would be a nice experiment to put "viewing posts" on key points in places like Suk, Nana, Cowboy, etc. to observe and record the comings and goings of hos and clients... This would make a National Geographic documentary look boring and out of touch...:D

juice

JuiceSpike

12-10-04, 18:02

Several days back I sent you a PM with some advice for you... do you ever check your PM box? It shows you have not read it...:confused:

juice

JuiceSpike

12-10-04, 18:56

It's always good to have discussions with you...

You wrote: "...kinda like having the same dish over and over, prepared by different chefs..." Very good point. I like this because once you find the right chef that cooks that dish just right for you then you can hire that cook for that dish...

juice

Joe Zop

12-11-04, 02:13

...or you can hire a particular chef because you like how they cook, and let them surprise you with new dishes...

SA, I wouldn't say that it's a "priority" to give the sex worker I'm with an orgasm, but given that I've always tried to do so with any woman I'm with, whether in a long-term relationship, a one-nighter, or P4P, doing so is at least on the menu. Why should I change the way I like sex just because it's P4P? Yeah, I know I may get fakey stuff, and it doesn't really make much difference to my ego to be told she has X number in X minutes, but I find that working to make a woman cum has the beneficial side effect of delaying my own orgasm, so that means the whole encounter lasts longer, which is positive in my book. Whether a pro is ultimately truly "satisfied" is less a priority than whether or not I've had the kind of encounter I want to have, which will include working to give my partner pleasure. In the end, with a pro, I certainly do understand and agree with you that her real desires are met in the handing over of the baht.

That said, hooking up with a truly orgasmic woman, pro or not, and most especially a multi-orgasmic one, is always simply a damn fine thing in my book.

Domino

12-11-04, 04:49

Merry Christmas from all the skanks at Nana. U like the Christmas tree? I sure hope so. I was going to upload some skank snaps but I guess they are not your type.

Samus: Do you have a policy on anal and/or oral?

The Traveler

12-11-04, 07:01

SA has still not received any replies from a questions asked before.

Are there any other cities in the world where an elderly gentleman will walk a rather young hooker through shopping malls? Are there any other cities where it is the norm for out of shape men to walk hand in hand down a side walk with a rent away fuck? Please fill SA in. Are there other discussions like the one in the SA section on other areas of the WSG concerning "dating" a hooker ?

SA,

sure there are. Have you ever been to Brasil, the Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, or Laos for example ? In those countries you can see the very same thing. I guess it largely depends on the costs for such services. If you have to pay a P4P girl by the hour - like in the USA or Europe - you will rather avoid to waste your money by just spending it walking with her hand in hand. But if you only have to pay a flat rate like in LOS and the above mentioned countries you will spend as much time with your preferred lady as you like. Also attitude of the girls might differ from country to country. In Europe and the USA hooking is mostly a "night job" to get some money, often enough spend for drugs. In LOS it's not only a job, they are living it. Therefore the girls are willing to spend much more (unpaid) time with their customers than their american or european counterparts.

I guess for you every farang in company of a Thai will fall into the "tourist + ho" category.

E.g. if you would see me walking with my thai GF at the Emporium or somewhere else (barely hand in hand, but who knows ?) you would think of a stupid tourist with a thai ho and express your distaste. But the opposite is true, I had lived there, had biz and property and probably know more about LOS and thai society than you ever will. My GF isn't a ho too, she is well educated (univ + MBA) and has a job at Thai Inter, I do not send her money or support her otherwise, she even paid hotel for me once when I arrived late.

So why do you attack each farang/thai couple ? Why are elderly people obviously a prob for ? Won't you be an old man one day too ? I guess not, can't see any improvement in your behaviour and point of views since you have been a 5yr old.

You are just smattering, obviously full of prejudices and cut and dried opinions. You don't know shit about those you judge. Do you really believe you can see who's a ho and who's a regular GF with an office job ? Your behaviour only shows one more time that you totally lack of tolerance towards others and overestimate yourself.

BTW, I don't comment on "out of shape" people, it's distasteful. You never know about the reasons for being bigger than our current ideal. It might be genetic, parents might have provided the wrong food when being a child (hard to get rid of bad habits, you should know:)) or whatever. I would like to see you when you are 50+, maybe then we will have one more "out of shape" guy. It's easy to judge about others without being in the very same situation and that counts for more than just being "big".

Regarding dating, you already know the answer. If not, use Google and search for other sex travel related sites.

Is a hooker in one country different from a hooker in another country? Arent the services the same? Are there different definitions of what a hooker does in one country than another or what is expected of them? SA has rarely seen an elderly white man in a midwestern USA city prancing hand in hand with a young hooker through an upscale shopping center. Why do men feel inclined to do it in Thailand and stink up the place? Please shed some lite on this subject. Are the services of a hooker in USA not good because they dont want to spend the day walking around the city with their customers after they have just fucked and milked them?

You just answered your own question. The US pro is not willing to do that so you won't see. Also see above, plain and simple.
Furthermore I wonder why you still compare LOS to the USA. This proves that you still have this western approach and see things with your western eyes. Asia and especially LOS isn't Europe or the USA, that's the reason why so many mongers prefer it. You use to tell us this but always fall back into evaluating it by western standards.

Just ask yourself why did you choose to live in Thailand ?
Was it the clean air in BKK or the social security system in Thailand ? Oh I forgot, you already answered that question, it was due to the availability of thai food.

The Traveler

12-11-04, 07:06

SA,

so now I have answered your below questions I would like to get an answer to my raised questions :

What are the disadvantages of spending some time with my P4P girl ?
Why is sitting in front of a video game a much better waste of time than being together with a nice, cute, sexy and funny girl ?

I would also like to know why you keep flaming everybody for picking up "ugly" girls ?
You even called a girl that I have posted as being ugly, but she was obviously cute enough for the thai issue of Penthouse.
You are hunting at the same places we do, so why do you believe that you are the only one who gets the exceptional beauties and the rest of us only crap ? Is it so hard for you to accept that taste differs ? Even a 5yr old knows that. Some like them dark, some light, others meaty or skinny, long hair or short hair, shaved or bushy (no connection to Mr. Bush of course), tall or short, big breats, big ass and so on. I agree that most girls in the photo section aren't cute, at least for me, but who am I to judge others ? And who are you to do so ? Did you never had the idea that the girls you pick might be ugly, too skinny or whatever for others ?

All you do is to display your lack of tolerance which is often a sign of uneducated and stupid or fanatic (which might be true in your case) people !

The Traveler

12-11-04, 07:25

And TT, you know this, I know this, and everyone knows this except for the occasional newbie who falls upon this drivel once a month, when you ask SA an intelligent question, he is nowhere to be found to engage in an intelligent answer. Just the same BS. Truly sad. Oh well, upwards and onwards, back to my video games, Tallyhooooooooo !!!

1ball,

Yes I know, but I keep trying.
It's quite sad that SA prefers this stupid and meaningless macho talk. I see the message behind it but I guess he harms his own intentions by his constant flaming and ranting of others. A carefully worded advice would be heard and appreciated by many, but his kind of language makes him look like a jerk.

I also doubt that he will answer - at least in an intelligent way - knowing that he got no arguments. But I keep trying, maybe one day he will grow up and act like an adult. He is living in LOS for 6 yrs now but still compares it to his homecountry, showing that he doesn't really understood LOS in full. He could compare it in a better/worse comparison, but not like "in LOS they do this, why don't they act they same in the US" or vice versa. One day he will hopefully find out that usually there is more than just one way to the result of a given problem - in maths and real life.

Philo

12-11-04, 14:38

1ball,

Yes I know, but I keep trying.
It's quite sad that SA prefers this stupid and meaningless macho talk. I see the message behind it but I guess he harms his own intentions by his constant flaming and ranting of others. A carefully worded advice would be heard and appreciated by many, but his kind of language makes him look like a jerk.

I also doubt that he will answer - at least in an intelligent way - knowing that he got no arguments. But I keep trying, maybe one day he will grow up and act like an adult. He is living in LOS for 6 yrs now but still compares it to his homecountry, showing that he doesn't really understood LOS in full. He could compare it in a better/worse comparison, but not like "in LOS they do this, why don't they act they same in the US" or vice versa. One day he will hopefully find out that usually there is more than just one way to the result of a given problem - in maths and real life.

What a load of besserwisser bullshit.

SA - and the father of FFF who was ousted a year ago or so - is amongst the few persons here who understands the dangers of this country and its girls...

Philo

12-11-04, 14:52

Joe Zop

12-11-04, 16:07

Philo, to repeat something I wrote to you before you moved to LOS: "This whole scene has nothing to do with your personal position in it beyond how you decide to define that, and it won't change no matter how you approach it. It is what it is, and you are who you are -- and if you're not happy or comfortable with yourself in it, then nothing you're going to do is going to make it good. You're comfortable with it or you're not."

My point is the "orgasm" post was that my sexual habits basically do not change based on who I'm with -- I like what I like, I do what I like to do, and I treat people how I treat them, and that really doesn't change much because they are a girlfriend, sex worker, whatever. Part of my sexual approach involves trying to give my partner pleasure, as I gain pleasure from that. I love watching that little "out of control" aspect when a woman cums. I simply don't see the logic in diminishing my own enjoyment just because I happen to be with a sex worker -- hell, I'm paying for it, I should get what I want!

BTW, would you mind amplifying a bit on your experiences? You've been in LOS, what, about a year-and-a-half or so, right? As I recall, at the beginning your desire was to move from being an unhappy wise man to being a happy fool, which is a noble albeit very tough road. Your posts since resurfacing have certainly lacked the joyous tone of earlier ones, so I'm curious as to whether various hard knocks have taken a toll on your happiness, or whether you feel the blinders have finally come off, or what. Do you feel you have a better life than before you excitedly moved to LOS?

The Traveler

12-11-04, 17:23

Joe Zop

I agree 100%,
doesn't make sense to me to not trying to give her an orgasm if possible. I pay for having fun and if giving her an orgasm is fun for me why shouldn't I try ? It's OK if she fakes it and I do not know, cause that way I got what I was paying for too.

Philo didn't get that sex is something different for everyone of us. Some need the excitement of a new body (yum yum :D), some like to pleasure their partner(s) and others just want a quick orgasm.

Philo and SA are obviously part of the latter group or it's just some stupid macho talk to look cool. Anyway no complains from my side it's their choice.

But you, me and others have a different aim, we like to maximize our pleasure.

Why do they complain about it ? Don't know, our behaviour doesn't do any harm to them, probably because it doesn't sound macho and cool enough. And again they try to set up rules for others.

If I would only want to cum off why should I get all the hassle to find a girl and pay for her ? My hands are healthy and work for free. So my question towards SA and Philo is : Why do you fuck girls at all ? If your only aim is an orgasm for yourself and the girl is nothing more than just a piece of meat, why do not give yourself a good HJ or go out and fuck a dog. Much cheaper, same result.

Firedick

12-11-04, 19:25

It occurs to me that we may be simply acting on instinct. In the animal kingdom, many social animals tend to herd during mating season, usually jealously guarded by the dominant male (clearly never having heard of the three f method). Those unable to keep a harem of their own are relegated to the fringe, sneaking in from time to time for a quick mount.

Beachmaster, dominant stag, alpha male... choice or mother nature ?

Also, on the issue of making girls cum: this may be ingrained in us as well. There is a physical contraction in a woman during orgasm that increases the likelyhood of conception. This is a throwback to "herd times" to allow the female to select the male she wishes to conceive with, when she has no choice in whether or not she is penetrated.

So, instinctively, we feel better watching "the show".

Is a bargirl faking it ? Very likely. Do I care if she's faking ? Not if shes a good actor !

Sorry guys. I've obviuosly been spending too much time watching Discovery Channel.

MHO (tongue in cheek) :)

FD, beachmaster.

Samus Aran

12-11-04, 23:38

Fellas:

SA doesnt know Philo. But in his case, SA thinks he was one of those men who was turned on by the prospect of pussy in Thaialnd on his very frist trip to Thailand. Its accessibility and low price. He decided to retire here cause of this. As posted by SA and others, moving to a foreign country to retire because of the pussy is not a good move. They were warned. Even Posterlion has gone down hill. Actually, Thailand is pretty bad to move to. Places like Mexico and Costa Rica which have set up nice centers for retirees or people who want to move away are much better than Thailand. And dont say to SA you want to get away from these people. What, you gonna do befriend the thais. Believe SA, you need your western friends. SA thinks the place has gotten to Philo just as it gets to other men who have decided to make Thailand home. SA looks at the poor guys barely alive near the Prakanong area. Sitting around drinking beer at 8am with nothing to do all day. And they look so out of shape and haggard. Is this really what they wanted. Most of them came for the wrong reason. SA isnt picking on Philo, just guessing at the facts. He sees a different Thailand now and not a very nice one either. The sex tourists turn him off. The Thai hookers mean nothing to him. Paying for pussy and for one of these hookers to be your friends for an hour is a waste of money. Developing friendships with the Thais is not easy either. They really dont like us.

Traveler:

SA doesnt need to fuck these hookers. Get no satisfaction from it and a complete waste of my body , as the thais say! So, SA can stroke himself as you say. Big deal. Same result and done in 5 minutes. SA doesnt get the fake companionship feeling that you so desire from a hooker as others here do. You crave the attention albeit paying for it. Lonely, SA guesses.

Furthermore,

SA turned away from this years ago and decided many other ways to cure boredom. All of you seem to be content with buying a 1 hour friendship. Cool. You even support it. even hang onto the mobile fone numbers of these girls. Call them. Makes you feel important. Seeing u SMS them on the sky train is a scene. Saw 5 guys in a row playing sms with their hos. Waiting all day to get the return SMS. And when you do, your heart lifts and u are now in love with some hooker. U play fone love. She knows the feeling she is creating. SA sees this all the time. So does Philo. Losers every one of them. They havent figured out the Thai bar girls or how to treat a hooker.

Yesterday, SA saw a rather old man pushing around his new born in a stroller through the mall. What is up with some of these foreign men wanting to start a thai family at 50 to 70 yrs? Isnt this going a little bit to far? Is this why he came to Thailand? Be inprisoned again.

Emporium was teeming with HO-liday couples. Buying gifts for the families on the rice farm. Of course she says she will deliver them. Actually, she unwraps the gifts and sells them to her bargirl friends. Its a cycle some shmo has gotten himself into because some hooker gave him a few orgasms. Another loser who cant follow the SA rules.

SA

Domino

12-12-04, 03:25

Good post. I hope SA gets a chance to wade back in through the other's never ending monotonous, mono toned horse shit. However, I feel I am a lion now and I like pulling htem apart with my teeth. However lions and lionesses come separately. More to the point, what we do to and with skanks is purely at the base, animal level.
Philo: good points. Have you tried technical translating? Might be waht you are looking for.

PosterLion

12-12-04, 03:26

It does not matter how good looking the girl is or how good she can Phuck. Somewhere, there is a guy that is tired of Phucking her.

Trust me, I only have two hands and they are almost twins. The prostitutes of this world have nothing to worry about. I will come a callin' when I am sick of the hand.

poster...

PosterLion

12-12-04, 03:36

For the record, I am happier since I moved to LOS. I am not just saying that. After having Thanksgiving dinner with my relatives they were all amazed at how good I seemed to look. While it is true that I am almost Thai in the way that I can conceal my feelings behind a well crafted smile, I had to agree with them. I am happier than I have been in a long time. I don't give one iota how corrrupt Thailand is or that the BGs just want my money. I like things to be defined and Thailand defines me very well.

Domino

12-12-04, 03:48

posterlion: ever notice samus never gives out any information on video games? has he an agenda there?
glad you have defined yourself as something more than an atm. as a guy who has been an international itinerant for about 30 years, let me tell you there are stages to living outside of your locale. you are at stage one.
skinless went into jools (where private dancer is set) two days ago. guys talking horse shit (ahh come from a place in tex ass end whurr only 247 peepill live, and uh cum frum....). guy beside me sipping soup looked at me and rolled his eyes heavenward. like, who gives a fuck?

my offer to teach you english and the way of the monger stil stands;) bet you sa won't come forward with a video game offer.

when you live away, you become a stranger on the small things. stay for five years, it will take you three to reintegrate. stay much longer and the divorce is complete. up to you.

PosterLion

12-12-04, 04:46

D,

Yeah I think I realize that I am a stage one rocket still hoping to reach the stratosphere. When the first stage drops away all I can do is hope that the stage two jets will fire.

When I get to stage three I hope that I am not as wacked as you are. On the other hand, maybe being like you is the only way to survive. I won't know until I get there. And even if I do I have a feeling I still won't know much.

Thanks for your support,
poster

P.S. I read this Private Dancer book a long time ago. It's a good fiction (or not) to reflect on. I am just concerned that most of the people that read it take it for some kind of Gospel. It is just a story, nothing more.

Domino

12-12-04, 05:05

Posterlion: Have you seen that movie? Tom Cruise as the last Japanese samurai? When I was a little boy, I never dreamed I would end up with Coma Boy suggesting I cannot tell TGs from Ts's. Like St Paul, we must fight the good fight and see this thing through to the end.

Life that is. That cannot be learned from web sites or the like.

I found your perceptions of Thailand, and those of Philo interesting and, interestingly, different. Interesting what a place can give you, especially if you give something back in return. The same applies to Thai women/prostitutes. It all depends what you are looking for and what you will settle for.
I like the company of "honest" prostitutes but only in moderation.

Whilst admititng I have a tendency to over use metaphors myself, I think you should lay of the rocket metaphors. You are living your life, not trying to blast your way to some sexual Venus via Vitamin V and a country full of 1000 baht pussy.

Private Dancer: The stories in it are all true. The book is important for a variety of reasons including the following: 1. it shows shit like this does not sell; 2. it shows the odds favor the house, Thai skanks in this case; 3. it clearly spells out many of the issues we return to, like dogs returning to our vomit; 4. it acts as a multi layered warning.5. it shows the empty life expats have.

I wonder when the Skipper (the King of Thailand) will award Samus Aran, who leads such a rounded life in LOS, with the honors he so very richly deserves. Arise Sir Samus. (or should that be Lady Samus?)

Coma Boy

12-12-04, 05:11

When I was a little boy, I never dreamed I would end up with Coma Boy suggesting I cannot tell TGs from Ts's.Yes, but when you were a little boy did you ever dream about pretending to be a lion eating dwarves and hags?

Coma Boy

12-12-04, 05:27

Are his books actually any good?

I always assumed people read them for the subject matter rather than being good well-written books. I was also put off as they were often advertised in NEP bar toilets.

After hearing so much about his books for so many years I guess I should pick one up.

Which is best?

Coma Boy

12-12-04, 05:30

Why Game-Cube? That's your preferred platform right?

Surely X-Box or PS2 would be better choices. Especially as you can buy games for them so cheaply here.

I've not yet spotted any Game-Cube games over here.

Philo

12-12-04, 14:06

I'm OK - but I am tired and bored ...

I am fed up with stupid students, greedy landlords, shit food, 18 yo brainless girls, 25 yo girls with a world map on their belly, rude dangerous MC taxis, fat stupid tourists, christmas the Thai way, the national anthem, the smell of sewers, air that you have to chew, tourists, 150 kg fat retards who cannot give B20 to a person without arms, stupid Thai staff, overpaying for western food, 125B a small singha, life threatening traffic, farangs wearing shorts, Thai TV (sic...) and so on ad infinitum.

The days of candy shop feelings are forever lost.

I am not the kind of guy to have a life: I shear the view of a Bowie song: Man is an obstacle, sad as the clown ...

But I will stay and die in Asia: Who the fuck would trade this for a house, a fat white cow, some ugly obese kids who shows you how rotten your genes are, a mother in law and a mortgage in the local bank. HaHa!

I fuck and drink and am happy the north Americans aren't too clever either: The textbook they told me to use in the Calculus course for their international master's program that I am wrapping up next week gives me the opportunity to prepare for lecture while seated on the toilet in the morning (even though I often get distracted by wondering why the American Standard toilets in Thailand are formed in a way that makes your dick rest on/touch the bowel (or whatever it is called). And no Thai has yet ever been born that can subtract 63 from 100 without a calculator.

I have had a broken heart a few times - but it never lasted more than 3-7 days. I have never 'lost' more than a few ten thousand baht. I have fucked the most beatiful little things at a cost from 120 to 5000+ Baht. Every year there is a new supply. So who the fuck want a GF?

Maybe I am just bitter and jealous on tourists having money and happy-go-lucky fun.

(I am too tired to even try to check the English - and I will not be disappointed if dissected.)

PosterLion

12-12-04, 18:45

D,

Yeah I saw that movie. It was the first movie I watched after I made the move to LOS. I believe it was at the theatre atop Big C on Ratchadamri.

I didn't realize that the PD book was a true story. Even so, it is a story and yes, I agree, anyone can learn a little about male/P4P female relationships from this book. I just don't play life with a script I consider as rote. Well, that is probably not entirely true. We all play a script to some degree I guess. I try not to follow anything too closely. That is what I really meant.

I'll try to lay off the metaphors. :)

poster...

The Traveler

12-12-04, 18:57

Philo,

you really seem to have been there for too long, you even say "shit food" !
Maybe you should take a break, get a few days/weeks off and move back to your homecountry. After a short while you will see that there is no need to be jealous on tourists having money and happy-go-lucky fun. They will have it only for a couple of days/weeks but you can have it whenever you want. Think positive, you live in the candy store. tourists only go there shopping.

I know, living there will destroy all your dreams that you might had before. Whereever you are, whatever you do, at the beginning it might be exotic but after a while it gets "normal", nothing to write home about.
Working there I guess you already have a daily routine that will keep you busy for most of the day. Also try to blend in and make friend with Thais - if you haven't done that already. Not only that most Thais earn less than you and their way of "going out and having fun" is cheaper than the farang way, it will also trememdously improve your language skills and it's a lot of fun. I made the experience that most Thais are very nice people and like to help you in case you need any.

PosterLion

12-12-04, 19:14

SA,

You aren't 100% wrong. I have regressed and back-slid a bit. I still chase the P4P girls, but I don't look at it like I am buying a GFE experience. I mostly practice 3F with the P4Ps.

On the other hand, there are times when it is genuinely fun in a non-sexual way. Is that a GFE? I guess that is up too you to label as GFE or not. I am not ashamed to admit I've had a good time.

You will never catch me at the Emporium with a P4P, not even in my newbie days, (and as D points out) I am most likely still a newbie in many ways.

A bowl of noodles is about as extravagent as I get with these girls. Sometimes I (or she) is hungry. It makes sense to get a bite before retiring to the room. You might have seen me slurping down on a bowl with one of these little lovlies. It doen't bother me to be seen like that. I am not holding their hand or kissing then on the cheek. lol

I send them packing the next day if it is long time or they send themselves when the act is over if it is short time. Sometimes you don't know whether it is short time or long time, at least I don't. I just pay them the 1000B when they have had enough of me.

They are usually happy with that amount these days. I have not mastered the 200 to 500 baht transaction yet. That is okay. I've got nothing but time and more to learn.

It's good to hear that you have mastered your will. It must take a lot to quit chasing after those little brown beauties. I'm not sure I'll ever get that far. For that you can call me grasshopper. :)

It might be a bad idea to move to Thailand if chasing the honey is your only reason. I certainly would not believe anyone on this board that tries to tell me they didn't move here for the honey. It certainly was on my list of reasons to make the move.

It doesn't really matter whether it is a good reason or a bad reason to move here. What matters is whether or not we becomes one of those "examples" that you speak of with such tender mercy. And in the end, that doesn't really matter either.

I've come along way to find out that nothing matters. I've gone no where for so long that I've gone everywhere but somewhere. A scary thought na?

I will try to reverse my downhill course or at least slow the decent. In the meantime, feel free to point out all my flaws and mistakes. I don't mind this at all. It is when people are berating you that one can learn the most.

I used to set myself up for beratings in my last career as a programmer. Exceptional programmers are a very cocky bunch. I was never an exceptional programmer, but I am exceptional at listening to someone tell me how stupid I am. That is when the smart people like to tell you their secrets. It makes them feel big. I wonder if all those guys ever realized who was getting the best deal. :)

poster...

JuiceSpike

12-12-04, 19:58

You wrote:

"....Emporium was teeming with HO-liday couples...." LOL, very funny.

Poster,

You sound like a nice guy, I would like to meet you on my next trip (Jan) if you like to sit around and BS for a while...

Domino,

Keep the spirit alive.

juice

PosterLion

12-12-04, 21:55

It looks like I am making all the mistakes! Not only am I Jai Dee in the eyes of the bar girls, now I am Jai Dee with some of the mongerers. Certainly I am sliding down hill more quickly than ever. :)

Hey Juice,

Surething, just PM me with thr details on your next trip. I am usually up for a beer or two. 30 baht bier Changs (if you can stomach them) at the Dollhouse anytime for happy hour. This is about the only gogo I attend anymore.

It's strickly for the bier and to chat with the mamasan. She is a wealth of gogo information. She'll sit there and tell me all the rules that the girls must obey as she checks them off as they arrive for their shift. Number so and so is hot in the sack. Number so and so has a good heart. Number so and so is a bit unusual, she likes to cut her arms to trade one pain for another, etc.

===

The price of a visa has gone up as you all know by now. 1000 Baht per entry for a TR visa. I just got my new visa here in the states and I am shocked. Apparently my Thai Consulate likes me. They gave me a multiple entry TR visa, (meaning unlimited entries) that is good for one year. The cost was 3000 Baht.

I gave them the money and afterward they said, "Oh by the way, you need to fill out an application." They handed it to me and I filled it out and brought it back. I completely forgot that an application is necessary to apply for a visa! :)

Apparently good luck is on my side. That is a scary thought. :)

poster...

The Traveler

12-13-04, 00:03

SA

I am really impressed that you finally found a better way (regarding language) of expressing your thoughts. Keep it that way.

SA doesnt need to fuck these hookers. Get no satisfaction from it and a complete waste of my body , as the thais say! So, SA can stroke himself as you say. Big deal. Same result and done in 5 minutes. SA doesnt get the fake companionship feeling that you so desire from a hooker as others here do. You crave the attention albeit paying for it. Lonely, SA guesses.

If you get no satisfaction from it, why do you do it at all ?
Total waste of time and money, isn't it ?

Anyway, you got me wrong. I do not desire any companionship feeling from anybody. But when I am on holidays and have lots of time, I sometimes like to have someone around me that I like to talk to, have fun with and do not have to say a word to if I am horny again and want to fuck. Easy as that. Joe Zop already explained it, nothing to add. Do you never enjoy the presence of any other person besides yourself ? If not, you are the real lonely person here.

Surely I often enough want to be alone, doing my stuff. I am more flexible that way. It's a case by case decision.

Being bored with the sex scene I more and more avoid it and target regulars. As I have already mentioned I am currently involved with a regular who works at Thai Inter. That way I have the best of two worlds. She works during daytime and I pick some P4P girls if I am in the mood. In the evening or at night I have a cute, sexy, smart, funny and talkative girl around me who also do really like me. There is no money involved, she even declined some gold I wanted to buy for her.

You say that

...developing friendships with the Thais is not easy either. They really dont like us...

Why do you think that way ?
I have made different experiences. I guess it largely depends on your behaviour and attitude. If you believe to be better and look down on them they surely won't like you, who would ? If they do not like you it is most likely your fault not theirs. So try to adjust.

So why do you still live in a country where people do not like you and P4P girls do not attract you (which obviously stands in conflict to your prior posts) ?
It can't just be the food :)

Samus Aran

12-13-04, 00:35

Philo,

Congratulations! Nicely put. Advice: Get a booster seat for your toilet. The xtra height will support your "length."

Coma Boy,

For your information, MBK on the 6th floor carries all of the GAmecube Games...more expensive than the pirated PS2 or Xbox games. Usually 2200 baht per game but these are shipped from USA and not copies. By the way, if Play2 and XBox (Halo 2 has no history compared to MArio and Samus would kick MAster Chiefs ass) made Mario, *****, Metroid Prime, Kirby, Donky Kong, Star Fox, the list goes on... SA would probably switch platforms. And, anybody who knows video geames knows that Nintendo produces the best stuff by far. The pirated copies are shit also and freeze up! Just like buying the copied and fake stuff on the streets. Its crap, crap, and more crap.

Posterlion,

Some advice from someone who is going on 7 years.

Stay away from the whole bar/gogo scene. Get involved in stuff. Soon as SA started taking yoga and got involved with this group of people things changed. Join a softball team. You have to get involved and teaching english is not getting involved.

You cant totally veg out and give up your past life and become a hermit and turn your back on the world. The bar crowd is not healthy and some real sick muthas there. Gogo girls and their stories are unhealthy to listen to and for heavens sake dont help them. If you need release, spend your money at the massage parlors and be done with it. SA has always advocated the bath places as the best place to get your balls milked. Dont go looking for comfort and hospitality in between the legs of a street hooker. It isnt their. Hookers are not companions or GFE, they are for sex. Skip the noodle soup.

Juice,

Yes HO-liday makers. Xmas in thailand. Evergreen trees in 95 degree heat. Cut out snowflakes fading in the extreme sunlight. Oh yea... and for your xmas cheer, the bars in Bangkok will double the prices and bar fines will triple. Then the owners cant figure out why they do less business on that day. MAybe if one bar actually had 50% off on bar fines and turned over more girls he actually would earn money. But as SA knows Thais dont believe in this concept. They fuck you over one time and never want you back! Merry Xmas.

Traveller,

SA wants to know why you insist and telling all the members of the WSG of the people you know in thailand, the investments, the bikes you drive, more people you know, houses you bought and sold, businesses you own, girls you know, royalty you met, college girls you know etc... You are a "Name Dropper". Look it up! Don't mean this in any bad way or flaming way so dont get upset.

SA

Samus Aran

12-13-04, 03:26

Traveller,

And SA forgot, you always like to tell us where your good "girlfriends" work. LAtest, one is Thai Inter. Before it was Bangkok Bank. And who knows where else. Like your ashamed of sleeping with bar hookers so u balance it out with telling us you are still a nice guy and sleep with "nice" girls and that u even try to impress her with gold as a gift. No different than the average tourist who comes here and takes a bar ho shopping. No need to shower these girls with gifts of gold. You should know that as the expert on Thailand. Not flaming you. Was my language polite enough for you?

Laughing

SA

Domino

12-13-04, 04:34

Hi Belguel,
Many years ago a Frenchman shot a movie in Cameroun where he had the girls being fucked by a german sheperd. This was a big thing at the time and most girls where scared to go with foreigners for some time!

SA: I wonder could you spare some moments to look at the Cameroon board and give us your thoughts. You may recall that the spammer's uncle trained German dogs for this very purpose. How prevalent would you say bestiality is among the Isaan cuties? Would you say these habits affect prices? If some guy is in love with a Thai skank but she fucks dogs, should that affect the relationship? What if she "only" fucks pigs, ponies and well hung donkeys? Will love conquer all?

Coma Boy

12-13-04, 06:14

SA: I wonder could you spare some moments to look at the Cameroon board and give us your thoughts.Just checked out the Cameroon board.

Member#2089 is a real Prince Charming- a true gent. Some very interesting photos. I especially like the ones with the behemoth lady and the one where he is wearing giant high heeled shoes.

Going bareback in Africa is not wise. Then again, it is not wise anywhere.

I'm keen to hear SA's verdict.

JuiceSpike

12-13-04, 23:50

Last year I spent Xmas in Bangkok and I had a great time because it felt so fake and it was obvious the whole decoration thing was aimed to please the westerners. I was invited to a Xmas party in my hotel... There I was with almost the entire hotel staff (many girls :)...) and no other Farangs. I was given a Santa hat for the picture taking part... there was this skinny Thai guy dressed as Santa giving out little presents to everyone. It was a bit surreal but they had nice intentions. I got to meet a few of the girls staff which later almost got me into trouble....:D I learned that is not always a good idea to fuck the staff of the hotel you stay in.

p.s. check your PM box

juice

Terry Terrier

12-14-04, 00:17

Coma boy

You're anxiously awaiting replies from sharp-witted wind up merchants? Is the fuckheaded waffler finally getting to you?

BTW I have a really funny scouse scan I want to send to you . Do you have an anonymous email for this purpose?

Coma Boy

12-14-04, 02:03

Thanks, would love it. Anything anti-Scouser is excellent.

For all you yanks out there: Scousers are people from Liverpool, and despite the football team and The Beatles, it is a shithole full of thieves and gypos.

Actually, The Beatles kind of sucked also.

Bill

12-14-04, 19:14

SA,

I was thinking about what you said very intensively.

Yesterday I took my 18 year old supermodel girlfriend to lunch at the best French restaurant in town where we sipped Moet' and picked through truffles and pheasant under glass. She is on every current fashion magazine cover, but I will respect her privacy and not divulge further info. We then went to my "presidential suite" at the Waldorf for a 6 nut session. I offered her a 19 karat solitaire ruby as a token of my affection and she refused, saying she is only "using me for my body".

I tell her we will meet in Glasgow next week where I will be lecturing to the Cabinet Prime minister and staff on Kinetic Iskesiology.

Today my Lear Jet #3 finished its annual overhaul and my pilot will take me and my other girl (a sophomore student at Rutgers and daughter of a corporate CEO) to Miami to warm our toes in the sands of South Beach. The sex in 26 positions will follow.

Since she is one of People magazines 100 most beautiful women, and I had her cherry, just leave it at that.

Next week I will enter the "Mr. perfect natural" contest, to see if I can take my 4th championship in a row for the best perfect natural drug free body in the universe.

I have received letters of request for paid speaking engagement, from National Presidents, War Secretaries, Nasdaq and NYSE directors, as well as Martial arts schools and my calendar is full.

Samus, your reference to "name dropper" holds my attention.

Do you think I am one of those Azzholes?

Bill

The Traveler

12-15-04, 00:49

SA,

don't worry, I won't be upset. :D
I know you are only looking for "something" to make it fit into your agenda.

People : I never gave any names and won't do. This isn't the place for it.

Investments : All I did, was talking to Poster about investments, pointing out that a 100% could be made in thai funds, which I had just done with the SCB SET Index Fund, could be 5 baht or 5 million, never mentioned any amount.
At least I never posted pics of my cash like another member did. Why not comment on him ?

Bikes : If a chopper makes you jealous, than you should look for a better paid job.

Businesses : never said if it was succesful or not :).

Girls : Since girls are only sperm recepticles for you I can't give any advice. Would you like to know a girl from a specific Gogo ? Or any with a regular job ? No, so why jealous ? Also your memory is fooling you, never mentioned Bangkok Bank in any context. Please cite the appropriate post.

Royalty : I never said I KNOW them. I have met HRH Princess Sirindhorn on a few occasions due to my ex-bro in law and just talked to her once. Do you KNOW someone after have talked to him/her once ? If you are keen to meet any Royals just attend the handout of the diplomas to the students. There are also other occasions for "normal" people, but you won't mix up with those "uneducated farang hating Thais" as far as I know.

College girls : Nothing for you. You will need more time than just 15 minutes. It's also a question of attitude, so you better forget about it. But I understand that this makes you jealous, they are cute and sexy, educated, very funny and most often very kinky too.

Gold : Again you prove that you either don't know shit or have a bad attitude or both. Don't you think it's ugly to pay cash to a NON P4P girl, someone who stays with you because she likes you and not for the money ?
If you would have read my post carefully and would have understood what I said, then you would know that I always pay, one way or the other. I did not try to impress her, no need to and what for ? It was my way to thank her to have been nice to me. She declined so I have to find another way.

In addition I am not ashamed of anything. I - like all others here - have been with countless P4P girls, like bargirls, gogo-girls, MP girls, freelancers, regulars or whatever. Why should I be ashamed of them ?
They were all cute - remember quality over quantity - OK a few doables in between, had a nice attitude and did what I paid them for. I am neither ashamed nor proud of it.

Guess you only see want you want to see.

Why is it of any importance for you what I say if you do not believe it ? No need to be jealous, just ignore it.
We all have a different past and spent different lifes. Maybe it's your attitude that keeps you away from the "real" Thais. I did what I did and I know what I know. Don't care if you believe me or not, it's absolutely unimportant cause it won't change a thing.

But why to do still avoid to answer my questions ?
Scare that it will be obvious for others that it is all hot air and cheap macho talk ?

And to answer your question : Yes, that was polite enough.

Domino

12-15-04, 01:37

Samus: best to ignore The Traveler. I know it is hard as he continues to spam in your section. On the subject of gold, I recall him advising someone who knew nothing about gold to get a test he could not possibly understand done. The Traveler has to express his opinion on everything, whether he knows something about it or not. I also note he insists on calling soem Royal goon HRH. etc etc etc. Oh well, either at our feet or our throats, I guess.

If you read the Philipina Women section, you will see I am thinking of making an investment in human capital (a sweet 5' one with nice jugs). Any words of advice, Samus?

WayneKing

12-15-04, 05:44

SA
I agree with Domino....what a 'know all bore' the Traveller is!!
I can only assume he is German and determined to bore the world into submission with all his "extensive" knowledge on everything.
It reminds me of a Thai family I knew in S Thailand .... they foolishly let a German Backpacker stay at their house for a day or two...which turned into three months. He was determined to 'blend' into their lives but actually looked like the blond prick that he really was. Boasting about how he knew the 'real' culture and how clever he was to be eating well for only about five bht a day!!
I am thrilled to report the family got totally sick of him and hit him with a juicy Bht 20,000 bill for accom at the end of his stay.
Wayne

Coma Boy

12-15-04, 06:07

I agree with Domino... what a 'know all bore' the Traveller is!

I can only assume The Traveler is German and determined to bore the world into submission with all his "extensive" knowledge on everything.Actually, Domino is the German one. Have no idea where The Traveler is from. They may go on a bit at times but I think both of those two have some good information to share, and I love their rows.

Loved your backpacker story. Those types are really fucking annoying. You get a lot of backpackers on their first trip away from home who after one week think they have absorbed Thai culture and become highly spiritual or something. And yet, they are living on Khao San or Ko Pha Ngan wearing a "Same Same" t-shirt.

Dicks!

Joe Zop

12-15-04, 07:23

SA, that is truly excellent and sage advice for Posterlion! PL, I think SA's comments are particularly good if you're going to be an ex-pat writer, since there's an inordinate amount of solitude and being in your own head involved in that process. Involvement in a healthy social structure and activities that don't involve naval gazing are not only are good for you in a general sense, they can also provide grist for the mill.

Domino

12-15-04, 11:41

Samus

As we know, your advice on everything is always spot on. There should be a charge for accessing your very popular and informative section which will soon hit the 500,000 mark. I am torn between an Italian and a Pinay. Life is great. Glad to see you are living it. Might see you in January. Have yourself a merry Christmas with your American sperm catcher.

Samus Aran

12-15-04, 15:03

Fellas,

SA observed something today. Do all pregnant thai women wear the same ugly maternity gowns? You know what i am talking about... the ones that wrap in the back and come in two colors... grey and ugly grey. For those of you who have knocked up and had kids with a thai, please explain the drabness to the maternity wardrobe.

The Traveler is a wannabee. He is living off the fame of SA. Honestly, SA thinks Traveler wants to be Thai. Loves the Thai style.... with his luck he mite be rebon thai.... probably as a male motorcycle driver!

Went grocery shopping toady with "Im Dreaming of a White Xmas" blaring in the background. The only thing white about Thailand at Xmas is the pasty white europeans at Nana in their soccer shirts and dirtied shorts drooling on themselves. SA refuses to stick his nose into that part of Bangkok.

SA would have been banned again if he had conversations like the Domino/ Traveller/ Terry Terrier discussions. BAnned into deep cyber space.

There is nothing more that gets me than these foreign men who live here and do soap operas, print ads, magazine photos etc... They want to blend into Thailand and be Thai. Wayneking SA knows exactly what you are talking about. Guys who take thai language lessons, thai cooking, thai painting, thai etc... They really think they are Thai. You know what SA is talking about? SA feels special because he is USA and would never want to be anything else. What is going through the mind of these lost souls?

SA

Samus Aran

12-15-04, 15:14

Fellas,

The SA section of Thai board is the 3rd most viewed section after Bangkok and Pattaya. That means alot to SA. Thanks for the support. Who would figure that a section advocating 3f sex and treating a thai hooker as a hooker and not a gf would be so popular. Amazing!

Almost 500,000 views in less than 5 years. Certainly a recognition by the Admin should be forth coming

SA has come a long way since T.U.R..O.k Dino..saur Hunt..er, Z..e..l.d.a, A..d..le..z, Who remembers those characters on the WSG?

And about that CAmeroon dude, that is some sick nasty shit he is doing. Traing the skanks to be dogs.... Do they get the morning paper? Does he beat them when they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the floor? Frankly, it is a bit beyond SA's taste

SA

Philo

12-15-04, 15:17

Fellas:

SA doesnt know Philo. But in his case, SA thinks he was one of those men who was turned on by the prospect of pussy in Thaialnd on his very frist trip to Thailand. Its accessibility and low price. He decided to retire here cause of this. As posted by SA and others, moving to a foreign country to retire because of the pussy is not a good move. They were warned. Even Posterlion has gone down hill. Actually, Thailand is pretty bad to move to. Places like Mexico and Costa Rica which have set up nice centers for retirees or people who want to move away are much better than Thailand. And dont say to SA you want to get away from these people. What, you gonna do befriend the thais. Believe SA, you need your western friends. SA thinks the place has gotten to Philo just as it gets to other men who have decided to make Thailand home. SA looks at the poor guys barely alive near the Prakanong area. Sitting around drinking beer at 8am with nothing to do all day. And they look so out of shape and haggard. Is this really what they wanted. Most of them came for the wrong reason. SA isnt picking on Philo, just guessing at the facts. He sees a different Thailand now and not a very nice one either. The sex tourists turn him off. The Thai hookers mean nothing to him. Paying for pussy and for one of these hookers to be your friends for an hour is a waste of money. Developing friendships with the Thais is not easy either. They really dont like us.
SA

Ph missed out on this one. Sorry ...

Philo didn't come for pussy - Ph came for love.

But Ph knew already that true love is better not found. Ph was an Asian Taoist in his former life.

Ph compared this sewer to his snowing homeland. And he found that home is where the paid-for pussy is.

Ph has not retired yet. At the age of 45, Ph is teaching Calculus at a foreign university in BKK - and spending all the salary cash on 18-22 yo pussy. And the Thai students that Ph has in his (Thai university) Statistics class are left untouched.

Ph is afraid of real women (i.e. fat, white, bitchy cows). Ph likes brainless dolls.

After living here for a while Ph has a few LBFMs from Nana and Cowboy who come to see Ph before work: a Bacardi, a little bit Thai soap, boom and cash (more than a purple, less than a brown/grey) before they go to the bar. And Ph is happy knowing that some sucker is going to kiss her hand and give her 2-5k after Ph has fucked her already ...

Man is an obstacle, sad as the clown (Bowie).

And so is Philo ...

Jack Spratt

12-15-04, 16:27

Bill

Without a shadow of a doubt - YES!

If the hat fits, wear it.

jack

Joe Zop

12-15-04, 19:25

Ha, Bill, that's the first post from you that's ever had me laughing out loud! Hilarious!

SA, I absolutly agree with you that the level of flaming and personal attacks is far worse than anything posted by any of your alter-egos. Although I'm generally not in favor of that kind of thing, I'm beginning to think that Jackson needs to downgrade or ban someone to make a point.

And I, for one, remember your various incarnations and wish they had not been mostly excised from the archives.

As to your comment regarding farangs doing TV commercials, ads, photos, etc. I have a somewhat different take. When I was in Columbia my translator was an American guy who spoke Spanish fluently enough that he was in demand for commercials and such things. He was sleeping with one of the most famous and beautiful actresses in the country, making tons of money in addition to what he already had (he was on the country on a research scholarship and had enough from that to live high on the hog) and was basically having a blast. He didn't think he was Columbian; he just knew he was having it good, and taking advantage of being an American face that could be used/exploited in the local culture. The downside was that he was a target, but he knew that was an issue before he moved there.

But if you're going to be staying in a culture, why not try to integrate into it to some degree? It doesn't mean you have to give up your background or who you are.

The Traveler

12-15-04, 21:06

There is nothing more that gets me than these foreign men who live here and do soap operas, print ads, magazine photos etc... They want to blend into Thailand and be Thai. Wayneking SA knows exactly what you are talking about. Guys who take thai language lessons, thai cooking, thai painting, thai etc... They really think they are Thai. You know what SA is talking about? SA feels special because he is USA and would never want to be anything else. What is going through the mind of these lost souls?

SA,

I guess that's the main difference between us. You believe to be special and do not want to blend in. I instead believe that I am nothing special and have to blend in if I live in a different country with a different culture. Doesn't mean to give up yourself, but you got to respect and accept the rules and margins that are set up by your host, the Thais. Wouldn't you expect them to do just the same if they come to your homecountry ?

The Traveler

12-15-04, 23:03

Domino,

you have showed us that you have big bucks, why not use it to do good and donate a bit of it.

Today I have received a letter of Father Philip of the FR. RAY FOUNDATION thanking me for my donations. Maybe you remember one of my so called "lies" about a year ago when I said that I regularly donate a part of the profits of my "non existing" businesses in Thailand.

So I kindly ask you and others to help the poor and innocent and donate some money to

FR. RAY FOUNDATION
184 Moo 6, Sukhumvit 144
Box 15, Pattaya City
Chonburi 20150
Thailand

Phone +66 - 38 - 428 717, 422745
Fax +66 - 38 - 716 629

How to donate :

BANK TRANSFER

Transfer from your bank can be made to the following banks:

Bangkok Bank Ltd.,
Banglamung Branch
Pattaya City 20150, Chonburi
Thailand
Account Name: Fr. Ray Foundation
Account Number: 342-3-04125-4
Swift Code: BKKBTHBK

Kasikorn Bank Public Co., Ltd.
Pattaya Klang Branch
336/14 - 18 M.9 Nongprue
Banglamung Chonburi 20260
Thailand.
Account Name: Fr. Ray Foundation
Account Number: 291-2-08018-2
Swift Code: TFBSTHBK

Krung Thai Bank Public Company Ltd.,
Pattaya Klang Rd.,
209 Moo 9 Central Pattaya Rd.,
Pattaya City, 20260
Thailand
Account Name: Redemptorist Fathers of Thailand
Account Number: 227-6-01534-9
Swift Code: KRTHTHBK
Routing no/chip UID: 7895

Please note, that 100% of your donation will reach the ones it is intended for.
There are NO administration fees of any kind !!!
All monies will directly go to the orphans and disabled and will be spend to feed and dress them and to give them a good education.

Father Ray, who founded and supervised the orphanage, has died on Aug. 16th 2003.and Fr. Philip Banchong Chaiyara took over.

Help if you can, even a bit is better than nothing !!!
Don't forget, it's Xmas
Thank you

WayneKing

12-16-04, 05:34

Traveler
Have to agree that it is a good time to think about others than ourselves. When we throw cash at some tarts for a quickie is pretty poor when kids are starving, being abused, etc...
How about the WSG doing a 'Shag for Charity' or a 'Fuckathon.' Every time we bust a nut we donate Bht 100 to a charity of ones choosing. Who is in? Now until Dec 31st -Midnight!!
Wayne

Terry Terrier

12-16-04, 08:19

Thanks Bill

The latest set of trip reports are superb. And your latest postings in the photo thread, wow!!! those girls are gorgeous! Keep up the good advice in the travel and hotels threads, too. And thanks for the PMs with girls' phone numbers, etc.

The Traveler

12-16-04, 17:45

Terry

Bill is just jealous, if he can't get/do it, nobody can't get/do it, so it must be a lie. He believes to be the benchmark for all of us. Anyway, his opinion doesn't change a thing. Just wonder why he isn't commenting on Domino who even posted pics of his "big" cash amounts and kept telling us how wealthy he is. Of course his "wealth" is confined to money. Ignore him.

Samus Aran

12-17-04, 04:33

Fellas,

That photo section is nasty. We have MAster Monger who thinks he has made it big with some piece of street crap. Do you actually seek out the ugliest girls possible? Then there is Coma Boy. Fucking pure shit. Coma Boy get the bifocals adjusted. Why do you want to post for theh world to see photos of the girls u shtoop? Photos mark you as a newbie tourist. A guy who takes the photos, puts them on the computer, and wanks to them. Seriously, get some better subject matter. You guys have nothing to brag about and everything to be ashamed about.

All you gusy give the thai hookers way to much credit. Using words like awesome and amazing is overdoing it. They suck you dick, fuck you, then you cum. Big deal. They are still recepticles in SA's book.

SA

Coma Boy

12-17-04, 16:12

Then there is Coma Boy. Fucking pure shit.
Why do you want to post for the world to see photos of the girls u shtoop? Photos mark you as a newbie tourist.

Seriously, get some better subject matter.LOL, thank you Samus.

Sorry they're not to your taste. I receive loads of positive feedback, so some people like them.

I don't take photos often, it does get in the way of sex. But, no longer a newbie in LOS I'm afraid.

You don't need to keep looking if you really don't like it. But, I know you will!

JuiceSpike

12-17-04, 19:08

You wrote: "Photos mark you as a newbie tourist. A guy who takes the photos, puts them on the computer, and wanks to them..."

But I'm not a newbie...And I definately don't wank to pics, that's disgusting...:D... Besides I have a cute Viet woman here to keep me happy with the real thing while I'm away from Thailand ... she is now in Juice's stage 3 of "fucking me right" lessons. There are 5 stages and she looks like she will graduate with very good grades... Maybe even go to grad school too.

Why is that Asian women (not all of course) are so natural at sex and so flexible with their bodies and jaws?

juice

The Traveler

12-17-04, 20:00

SA doesnt need to fuck these hookers. Get no satisfaction from it and a complete waste of my body , as the thais say! So, SA can stroke himself as you say. Big deal. Same result and done in 5 minutes.

SA,

so regarding to your above quoted comment you don't fuck them, no satisfaction and a complete waste of your body.
What do you do instead, wank off ?
Probably looking at the pics of the photo section.

BTW, if you do not like pictures - not being interested in them at all - and believe they are all ugly, why do you look at them ?
You know quite much about something you are not interested in.

MeatMan

12-17-04, 21:36

Here ya go SA. Try this!

http://www.miniclip.com/lastxmas.htm

Samus Aran

12-18-04, 14:28

Juice,

Now that is how to do Thailand! These losers using their whole vactaion time with one ho have missed the boat. You 3fd 7 of these skanks in 6 hours! This is what SA is talking about. This is SA's message! Did you bother to eat with them? NO! Did you ask to see them again? NO! Did you do the Emporium shopping spree? NO! Did you care if the girl orgasmed? NO! Did you remember any of their names? NO! This is what SA hopes taht all you guys get in the habit of doing! Pop the V and fuck and have a revolving door of pussy.

Jabba Pics - Now these fotos were the best fotos SA has seen in the Photo Section in a long time. Better than 97% of the pussy photos some of you are contributing. The photos had style. A true Jabba sleeping away and no doubt dreaming of the ho he is so dearly in love with.

Question to the members:

SA has come into a rather large some of money. SA is interested in relocatiing out of Thailand and moving closer to USA. SA was thinking of Central America or Mexico. SA is interested in a retirement community with golf, swimming, etc... Does anybody have any recommendations where lets say a million dollars can go a long way just by living off the interest it would earn in the USA. Please give some suggestions good or otherwise. SA is not ineterested in the mongering scene. Costa Rica or someplace like that.

SA

Coma Boy

12-18-04, 16:06

Jabba Pics - Now these fotos were the best fotos SA has seen in the Photo Section in a long time. Better than 97% of the pussy photos some of you are contributing. The photos had style. A true Jabba sleeping away and no doubt dreaming of the ho he is so dearly in love with.Samus, good to hear that you like at least a couple of my photos.

To be honest, taking photos of that slob was a lot more satisfying and fulfiling than taking photos of girls.

Also, I am very pleased that there was no sex involved.

Duniawala

12-18-04, 17:04

SA has come into a rather large some of money. SA is interested in relocatiing out of Thailand and moving closer to USA. SA was thinking of Central America or Mexico. SA is interested in a retirement community with golf, swimming, etc... Does anybody have any recommendations where lets say a million dollars can go a long way just by living off the interest it would earn in the USA. Please give some suggestions good or otherwise. SA is not ineterested in the mongering scene. Costa Rica or someplace like that.

SA

Island of Tonga should be good.

JuiceSpike

12-18-04, 18:26

Congrats! Finally...

I heard Costa Rica was nice, cheap land by the sea... Retirement? Golf? You are joking, right?

I have no financial advise but to go a "long" way with 1 mil you will have to make the right choices and live on a budget... Oh, treat yourself to a wide flat HD screen with surround sound set-up for your video games needs... You will be hooked on the experience... maybe you are already hooked.

Do not seek financial advice from Domino as part of his financial strategy is to carry large sum of cash with him to see if anybody can steal it... Twisted skanker. :D

BTW, I never keep any pics on my computer. Once I post a pic they are gone. But, I have a nice collection of personal videos I save....:D

juice

Domino

12-19-04, 10:54

Samus

Gotta hit the slopes soon. Having more fun than a human being should. Some points:

1. I will be around late January if you want some free no strings $$ advice. Gotta watch the risk/return trade off. Don't let anyone here, Domino Rotschild included, tinker with your $$. There are some shady dudes here (not just on the Thailand section). Domino has his own private banker and he can advice you on a life style that suits Samus Aran, who will have to continue to work. Neither Domino nor any of his henchmen wil have anything to do with the SA millions so rest easy there.
2. If you want to play golf, try Pattaya.
3. You are too modest. The SA thread is more recent than the Pattay thread. That puts you ahead of all others. Yours is the most profound thread here.
4. I tried The Sims. Too much work.

Later.

Terry Terrier

12-19-04, 22:29

Samus

Congratulations on your high viewing figures. Your tongue-in-cheek rants are welcome light relief, and provide many laughs.

For once, I'm in agreement with the Waffler: This isn't the best place to seek financial advice. Though I would advise against converting your money into a large wad of 'readies' and flaunting it on internet message boards.

Re: Future residence. Dubai is well worth a look. It has a huge expat population of businessmen and professionals. It's very safe and clean (the Gardens and Jebel Ali residential estates are particularly nice). It's tax free and your bank accounts are untouchable by other governments. Property there is good value at the moment (there I go, offering financial advice!). There are plenty of high quality public and semi-public swimming pools on the better estates. The golf is superb and year-round, though it can get a little sweaty in the summer even with a buggy: The 9 hole Jebel Ali Resort course, behind the duty free port, is a nice, fair knock; The Montgomerie course (a signature course of Mrs Doubtfire himself) and the Emirates course (home of the Desert Classic), both near the camel racing track just off Sheikh Zayed Road, are real tests of one's ability, and can turn into brutes when the wind gets up. And if you do get the urge to monger, there is a high quality scene based mainly in the old city centre of Bur Dubai.

Migrant One

12-20-04, 03:02

Bounced around Central America a fair amount.

Costa Rica is nice, good infrastructure in the country, stable government, lot's of ex-pats (is that good or bad??) and lot's of FFF for you. Property has risen since it is so popular.

Guatemala is nice, Honduras nice, but still pretty wild westish, lots of guns etc. although I do like it.

Nicaragua is a up and commer. Current odds are the government is welcoming tourists, the old rebel ways are passed and property is reasonable.

Belize is nice, prices starting to rise.

Lots of good choices.

Samus Aran

12-20-04, 03:04

Terry Terr:

Well being a nice jewish boy, SA doesnt think the middle east is the safest place. USA Jew. Hmmm, SA doesnt look good in orange. Also, too far from the USA. Mongering is not an issue. SA is looking for golf, swimming, yoga, nice apartment, near the sea, a genuine expat community(is that possible). SA would never choose a place for the pussy! So far, have been investigating MAzatlan, Puerto Vallarta, etc... These are in Mexico for those of you who failed 3rd grade Geography. Since SA has good experience living overseas, SA doesnt think Mexico to be much of a problem. Money is not an issue. $3k per month seems mroe than enuff. With a sizable stash in a safe account. SA knows $3k/ month in Thailand is plenty and SA doesnt even go out hoing like you studs. Just want to be closer to my family who are getting older. Looking for like a condo to buy or rent amongst a group of foregners to make friends with. Also, wants to be with a group of people who are free and not tied down with work commitments. Want golf partners and swinging couples.

Keep bringing SA the info.

SA foto challenge.

Contribute a foto of the man who best fits the typical male sex tourist in Thailand. No, keep the ugly ho fotos in the foto gallery. Coma Boy did a great job getting that Jabba pic and that will be a tough one to beat. But, instead of surveys like Posterlion does, SA wants to put out his own type of challenge.

Besides Posterlion, visiting a massage parlor is no big deal. The end result for you is the same.... cum and go.

Samus Aran

JohnTodd

12-21-04, 02:46

There is some confussion regarding the Balls Massage.
The massage parlor site has it listed as Chaap Ka Sai and Nuru Nuru.
Does anyone know where to get that type massage in Bangkok and exactly what it entails? What is it called so when I get to the [place that they do it I can properly communicate
Thanks in advance for the help.

JuiceSpike

12-21-04, 04:08

This is not the "ball massage" thread... You want to post your question in the Massage Parlors section...

juice

Love Sex 22

12-21-04, 07:08

Coma Boy

12-21-04, 16:50

SA foto challenge.

Contribute a foto of the man who best fits the typical male sex tourist in Thailand. No, keep the ugly ho fotos in the foto gallery.

Coma Boy did a great job getting that Jabba pic and that will be a tough one to beat.That's a great challenge.

I notice that red-faced Scouser is still "living" outside Seven-Eleven on Soi 4. He's not a "typical male sex tourist", but he is a typical fucking idiot.

Would appreciate it if someone snapped him.

Domino

12-21-04, 19:53

samus

luckily i missed george w's latest bs. like who cares? but, as a veryinfluential person yourself, you should give christmas, new year etc messages. a kinda state of the mongering address. i think the world needs some annual keynote speeches from you and the world's other major moral leaders.

with that kind of loot, you should consider the usa to live in. some good golf courses and a shit currency (but the s&p has done well over the last 18 months). most mexicans keep their stash north of the border. maybe you should too. as regards somewhere to vegetate in: come on. you are better than that. plus, planes are frequent from anywhere and relatives can be kep on ice until the main event arrives.

The Traveler

12-22-04, 00:49

A million with today interest rate will give you $20000 a year. Can you live on that any where except Thailand? And you are to young how can you think of retiring? Promise you after one year you get board to death. Any way I am happy for you.
Love Sex,

you refer to fixed income but there are other safe means to get 4-6% which equals to 40-60 grand. With the right asset allocation 8-10% are quite realistic with an acceptable (low) risk.
SA doesn't seem to be interested in the stock market or having great knowledge of financial instruments, but that might change as soon as there is a video game for that.
Anyway, one million - especially in US dollars :) - aren't enough to retire in my opinion. The older he gets the more needs he will have. He will need/want more comfort, health insurance gets more expensive and even the girls will ask for more as well. I know mongering is no issue for him, but I am a bit confused due to his recent posts, telling us that he doesn't care about girls and wanking off is an option/daily business for him which is contrary to his FFF posts and that taking pics and wanking off is only for losers.

My advice, being still young enough to wait a couple of years he should at least wait till he has 2.5 million US$. This is the minimum for me to secure a decent living.

Love Sex 22

12-22-04, 02:07

SA was referring to living from the interest? He is a very safe man, doesnt like to take risks. I think?

Duniawala

12-22-04, 06:01

Anyway, one million - especially in US dollars :) - aren't enough to retire in my opinion.

It all depends where you live.

JuiceSpike

12-22-04, 14:24

After taxes is not a million anymore...:D

Guys, do the math again.

juice

Samus Aran

12-22-04, 16:33

Juice and fellas:

How about $1million and alimony payments of $4k per month for 30 years?

Could you live with that in Thailand?

And let SA say this. When u guys are figuring out what it would cost you to live in Thailand, you are adding in pussy, beer, entertainment costs etc...

So lets see, an average of 6 hookers or massages per week at a cost of 1500 average is 8k times 4 is 32000 baht. Hell, SA doesnt even come close to that! And beer and entertaining a ho hasnt been figured in. And, and the ho shopping sprees that some of these fellas like to do.

See SA has an advantage. SA doesnt go hoing like u studs. SA works and has a lifestyle that doesnt involve wasting 32000 bath per month on cumshots. SA lives like a local. SA lives just like he was in USA. So the difference is, you guys saying you cant live on 80k baht per month in Thailand are thinking once again with your dicks and not with your brains. Furthermore, any other place SA decides to move to, the pussy is not a deciding factor on moving. Anybody who comes to Thailand and the pussy is the main draw will be sad he moved.

SA

Domino

12-22-04, 20:39

Samus

1. The main issue you have is tax.
2. If you do not need the $$ now, a good spread of 401 Ks is your best option.
3. There are highly advanced fixed income strategies available but these are probably not your thing. (they are quite risky and for advanced traders only).
4. Given your interests and your aversion to skanks, the USA south of the Dixon Mason line might be your best option (if you have a tax efficient strategy).
5. Outside of the Carribean, there is nowhere near the USA worth considering.
6. Shithole oases in Arabland are not worth considering.
7. You should keep working. Florida or some such place would suit you: strutting your stuff and butt fucking rich widows.
8. This site is not the place to seek such advice. Too mnay potential charlatans.
9. Hey! Met an old buddy. He married a Thai sweetie, aged 18. Fixed the folks up with a $10k mansion in Buriram and has never looked back. True and deep love.
10. Domino is in love with theis Italian's jugs:) Only problem is a Pinay sweetie has a nice pair too.
11. Samus: Hope to see you in Janaury as I butt fuck some Thai skanks. Looking forward to your Xmas day state of the skanking address.

The Traveler

12-22-04, 23:10

SA was referring to living from the interest? He is a very safe man, doesnt like to take risks. I think?
Love Sex,

yep I know, but 2% are at the extreme lower end like fixed deposits, even people with a risk aversion like SA can get 4-5%.

The Traveler

12-22-04, 23:18

It all depends where you live.
Duniawala,

yep, and how you want to live. :D
SA should keep in mind that he still has to go a very long way with that money. His interest will be eaten up by tax and inflation. Also economic growth usually leads to higher incomes, so everybody around him will earn more and more over the years. US$ 3k per month might be enough today but it won't secure the same level of living in let's say 35 yrs from now.

Phuquer

12-23-04, 02:56

This is not the "ball massage" thread... You want to post your question in the Massage Parlors section...

juice
Sorry about that, Juice. I referred Johntodd to Samus for info on the balls massage, as Samus had the service in Korat and might know the correct Thai name for this.

Samus Aran

12-23-04, 03:26

Fellas,

Some of you need to take some yoga classes and "step out of your comfort zones." While the advice is good and SA reads it, SA has come to the conclusion that some of you are missing the boat. Traveller feels SA will be threatened when he sees his friends making more money than he does later in life. These people define themselves with their careers and status. So be it. But not the correct way to live in SA's book. And, if a woman is only interetsed in you because of your profession and the potential earnings, she probably isnt the type u want regardless of her big tits and slim waist. Dont let the pussy rule you! This is all over Thailand! Weak men...

Back to money.... Oh yea, people wanting more and more. Hell, they can work all they want and accumulate all the wealth they want until they drop dead. Money isnt going to help them 6' under. And as far as most of you care the most imposrtant thing in yoru lives is scoring young pussy! Boring... SA doesnt compare himself with others financially nor does he feel that bcause someone else has something that SA should strive to acquire the same. That is bullshit!

That is the competitve thinking that u have and and as long as u keep striving for things you will never be satisfied. Another yoga philosophy. SA has learned from his experiences in Thailand that the things he enjoys dont cost any money. The best things in life are free. And if SA decides to move to USA the lessons learned in Thaialnd will follow. USA is about excess and not about enjoying. Taxes, insurance, car payments, mortgage, credit card payments etc... Is this how u want to live? SA chose a different path. SA didnt read any things about this in the Bible. Really, according to the jewish faith SA is still a fetus. Thats because the USA jews dont recognize a jewish baby becoming a man until her greaduates medical school! Alright, so SA is a little kid and loves Gamecube and kids stuff. Keep SA alive... And another thing, the main reason men work is for PUSSY!

If you sit around day after day counting your pennies, you are just wasting away. Hell, you could drop dead tomorow and where will that get you? A friend once told SA play now, work later. Why do you need to retire at 65 in a wheel chair and in bad health? Its sad to see people go through that.

Now SA is not stupid with his money. When you guys waste money on cumshots that is a real stupid investment with a zero return. What is the interest rate on that? While some of you get all over SA cause he doesnt bang these hos daily and fotograph them, add up the numbers. Lets say 5 hos per week at 2k. That is 10k/ week. 40k per month. 480k per year. That is almost $10000/ yr in cum shots.

So if SA transers that cash to lets say an IRA account or some other risk investment over the next 20 years what would be the amount then? Traveler...? See SA fills his time with productive things and not playing around with hookers and wasting money and time Many of you offered advice so you can maintain your standard of living in the USA and retire so u can screw bar hos and so that isnt fair when you tell SA $3-4 k isnt enuff. Bythe time u retire at 65 u be lucky to get an erection a week. Some of these guys who come to thailand and retire are in such bad shape health wise cause they didnt take care of themselves. They are walking all over sukumvit rd. Some of them barely walking and some of them lying down barely moving!

SA isnt married. Gets laid enuff and certainly doesnt need to feel companionship or warmth from a thai hooker. ANotehr mistake SA sees all time here but that topic has been discussed enuff. But, the ability to save money for the future is certainly easier in thailand. And, SA has a fantastic time doing the same things he did in the USA. $3k goes a long way here. even with a 30k apartment there is still plenty of money left over to get out and do. There is more to Thailand than fucking young thai hookers. There really is!

Traveler, your advice is sound. SA is not talking about stopping work. Hell, that would be stupid and unproductive. SA has no debt... nothing! That debt scares SA. Debt keeps you grounded and imprisoned and not free. Like a marriage!

Anyways, SA wanted to clear things up. The sun is out and it will be a great day. What is the price tag on that? SA could be back in the midwest with the snow falling and the polar temperatures chilling the bones.... WHo needs that! You guys stay there and do that and save your pennies and SA will stay here and save his pennies in the sun.

SA

Next week the SA State of Sex in Thailand

Coma Boy

12-23-04, 15:36

I would have thought that your new outlook on life, and as you say, your "yoga philosophy", would have taught you to cease refering to yourself in the third person.

How very un-yogic of you!

JuiceSpike

12-23-04, 16:12

Your last post makes a lot of sense and it shows your independent thinking and what you stand for even if it is in the third person...:D

As far as "cum" budget goes, you are right, it is the biggest waste of money any man could do unless your "cum" budget is part of your "entertainment and leasure" budget which is my case. I spend a lot of money going there (not all in fucking...) but hey, I'm free as a bird (for now...) and if I die tomorrow I will not regret one penny. Every man needs a hobby no matter how stupid that hobby is...

You wrote "...SA will stay here and save his pennies in the sun..." I think it is a great decision as you know what is like to live in the USA. The sun shines nicer over there...

About Money

Making money is important because to me money equals with independence and freedom to do what I want to do when I want to do it. But, money does not equal happiness and many guys and gals striving to make it big don't get that. Keeping myself happy and making myself rich is my path. In keeping myself happy I choose to fuck a lot either with paying for it sometimes (very convenient) or having a steady "real" gf which is rewarding beyond the "cum" shot. Of course there is a lot more to fucking in life but that is an entirely different subject for a different website...

What really matters is how you want to live and you know exactly how you want to do this. You have a plan for life and that in the end is more important than money.

juicy

Samus Aran

12-23-04, 17:42

Fellas,

What a scene today. Was down around Sukumvit. Saw this guy in an argument with a bar ho. Apparently, he had the most wonderful nite with this bar skank the night before. She said for him to come visit her again. So he did. But he came with an assortment of flowers to give her. Upon his arrival he sees in her the arms of another customer. He was shocked. He said," How could you? We made love yesterday. Didn't it mean anyting to you?" What a newbie! He threw the flowers at her. Called her a ho. (True) The bar staff proceeded to open the front door with his head! SA sees this all the time. Men romancing a hooker with flowers. Is this necessary? Come on... The amount of sad looking saps lurking Sukumvit is disgusting. Maybe they should just come out at nite. There should be a law against this.

Saw Bridget Jones 2. OK. HAd the Thai scene. Showed in the airplane some fat fu*k form England saying the only reason he goes to Thailand is for the young girls. What a scumbag!

SA's latest post was a bit off topic. Just wanted to get off the chest that their is alot more interesting things to do besides romance young not interested in fat slobs bargirls. SA tried to show the amount of money saved by skipping the nitely fuc7kng scene. Being employed in Thailand is different than a tourist. You guys see Thailand in a whole different lite than SA does. SA wouldnt dream of retiring in Thailand just so the pussy is at his doorstep. Ludicrous... what some of these guys have gotten themselves into because of the patch of hair between a girls thighs....

SA has always been in the 3rd person. Even before SA, the other now sent-into-deep-cyberspace characters were 3rd person. Just the style. But, Coma Boy u still reading it. Hey, got any more Jabba pics? The SA section has more visits than the BAngkok section. This thread has come a long way.

SA is preparing a year in review SA report. Included will be some memorable quotes and bashings over the last year. Look for it next week.

Juice, SA likes that phrasing...cum budget. Nice... SA remembers what you said,"There are other places to visit besides Thailand." U be out here soon? HAve a request for a PC game and Ju Ju Bees.

SA

Migrant One

12-23-04, 17:53

About Money

Making money is important because to me money equals with independence and freedom to do what I want to do when I want to do it. But, money does not equal happiness and many guys and gals striving to make it big don't get that. Keeping myself happy and making myself rich is my path.

What really matters is how you want to live and you know exactly how you want to to do this. You have a plan and that in the end is more important than money.

juicy

Hear hear!!

Money can't buy happiness (but it can afford you your chosen brand of misery)

Philo

12-23-04, 19:42

Coma Boy

12-23-04, 19:56

In Buddhist thinking the individual does't exist. The girls are refering to a part of the materialized world (i.e. themselves). Farangs who are adapting to this culture will concordingly sooner or later lose (spelled correctly thanks to Coma) their first person (ego) thinking.Yes, very good point, but Samus was doing the third-person-thing since day-one, long before he started learning a little of Thai life, plus, Yoga isn't a Buddhist thing.

Samus refers to himself in the third person the same way as Kelly Robinson (Eddie Murphy) does in the movie "I Spy".

The Traveler

12-23-04, 19:59

Fellas,

Some of you need to take some yoga classes and "step out of your comfort zones." While the advice is good and SA reads it, SA has come to the conclusion that some of you are missing the boat. Traveller feels SA will be threatened when he sees his friends making more money than he does later in life. These people define themselves with their careers and status. So be it. But not the correct way to live in SA's book. And, if a woman is only interetsed in you because of your profession and the potential earnings, she probably isnt the type u want regardless of her big tits and slim waist. Dont let the pussy rule you! This is all over Thailand! Weak men...

SA,

why do you always think in negative terms ?
You didn't get the message, it's not about competition with your neighbours, I give shit about something like that. I never understood men who like to show off with their big expensive cars. It's just a car and not the guy himself. Why should I display my wealth and make others jealous with all the side effects that might come along with it ? Also nobody knows if the guy is really wealthy or purchased it on credit. All in all it doesn't make sense to me to spend a lot of money, park it on the street and invite thieves and crash kids to steal it or grate the paint. I think only practical and a car is a tool that has to bring me from point A to point B. I prefer to live low profile, keeps away trouble.

Regarding pussy : You just named one of the reasons why I never talk about money with girls when I pick them up. That way they will never know how much I'll pay them and usually they expect me to be a cheap charlie since my Thai is absolutely fluent. Seems that most expats are quite cheap and therefore they think that everybody who is able to speak Thai must be cheap as well. So if they come with me anyway - and almost all do - it is most likely a guarantee for a good time instead of those starfish experiences I have read so many times about in here.

My point was, that growing incomes usually lead to growing prices. Since you were talking about retirment it sounded like you intended to quit working. Living only from your interest might lead to lower lifestyle over the years. Tax and inflation can take a big bite on your income, especially in long term scenarios. Also do not forget that your needs in comfort will rise the older you get. I doubt that at the age of 65 your yoga class will be a good surrogate for a nice apartment with AC rooms and a nice car on the street. At your current age you probably don't mind to climb stairs to the 5th floor everytime or walk long distance to the next BTS, maybe riding a bicycle, but at the age of 65 you won't find it fancy anymore, especially at the temperature of 35 degrees Celsius and high humidity.

Try to think positive and do not always look for a fight, that will make you an even happier man. Guess you don't practice yoga long enough for already having an effect on you.

I absolutely agree with Juice. I don't aim for the money for just being rich, I can't eat it and can't take it with me when I'm dead. I like it for what it can buy me, which is freedom of choice. Be it pussy or golf, to each his own. BTW, what do you think how much pussy can be bought with the money you need for a lifetime membership in a good golf club ? :D

The Traveler

12-23-04, 20:28

Coma, JC

I am sure you have heard the girls say: Lek kit wah ..., Noi ja pai shopping, Lom kikiat, Nan mai rue, Nok nuay etc.

In Buddhist thinking the individual does't exist. The girls are refering to a part of the materialized world (i.e. themselves). Farangs who are adapting to this culture will concordingly sooner or later lose (spelled correctly thanks to Coma) their first person (ego) thinking.

The 'pronomen personale' was hardly used by the Romans; the concept of individuality was born during the European Enligthenment.

(from Singapore with boredom)

Ph
Philo,

this is only true in part. The girls you refer to are often still kids in their minds or just used to it. It's true that kids, teens and even twens talk about themselve in third person, but at the age of 30 and older they usually turn into first person and call themselve "pom" and "chan".
And what about kids that use "nu" ? Have you ever heard "nu mai ru" or "nu ja pai len football" and so on ?

Anyway, do you try to tell us that those who are still using third person are not already enlighted ?
Hmm, to be true, sometimes I got the feeling that you are spot on :D

JuiceSpike

12-23-04, 21:40

I just saw your post on alimony. Alimony? What the hell....:D

Anyway, thanks for a great year of entertainment and worthy discussion about money, pussy, skanks, hos, video games, Thailand, shopping, interests rates, alimony, photography, Thai food, golf, retirement, taxes, farangs, sukhumvit, ego, philosophy, yoga, Gullivers, Nana, Emporium, Pattaya, swimming, beer, gold, fat people, marriage, married farang women, orgies, USA, American dollars, the baht, erection, cumshots, love, true love, love for sex, LBFM, tapperware, the one and only Domino, cash, adultery, FBI, Interpol, the Romans, the Italians, the Europeans, the losers, the winners, the in-between, mental illnes, Soi 33, IRAs, Issan, Bangokok, renting vs buying, Korat, condoms, anal sex, oral sex, quickies, 15 minutes or under, sex tourists, morals, romancing, values, scumbags, portable oxygen tanks, morons, idiots, intelligence, learning curve, sexers, Thai language, love sick fat men, DonMuang airport, taxis, chritsmas in Bangkok, yaba, drugs, flowers and bargirls, literature, exercise, short time hotels, FFF, GFE, the meaning of life, and so much more...

Thanks.

juice

Terry Terrier

12-23-04, 21:56

Samus

Another interesting option is the Spanish Canary Islands off the coast of North West Africa. Tenerife (if you take the lager lout slums of central Playa De Las Americas out of the equation) is the best option. It has a climate similar to the Carribean, but without the hurricanes. It has a huge part-time and full-time expat population (mainly Europeans, but those Scandinavian girls - wow!). I would guess it's about 5 hours flying time from the U.S. east coast.

Lots of nice 'urbanizaciones' away from the major centres, some of the best ones being around the resort golf courses. And the golf: Golf Las Americas, an immaculately manicured, fairly open parkland course; The 45 holes of Golf Del Sur and adjacent Amarilla (both having been used for European PGA Tour events) are tight and tough, using the natural lava formations in the form of 'barrancos' (ravines) as hazards - hit your ball into one of these and reload; The 85 year old Real Club De Golf near the northern university town of La Laguna winds it's way spectacularly first up, then down the side of the dominant Mount Teide. Take a sweater, it can get chilly up there; Three new courses being built in the north (though one being designed by Seve - possibly the worst course architect in history).

Most of the centre of the island is protected parkland, with spectacular walking, climbing, paragliding, etc. One of Europe's most important observatories is up on the Picos Del Teide, if that's your bag. And the island is steeped in 500 years of Spanish history.

The island is duty free (and inexpensive) but not tax free.

Don't swing (sexually!), myself, but I'm sure it's there (isn't it everywhere?) and you will find it.

btw, Samus, if you feel inclined to do a lot of thinking, better to stick to altruistic subjects such as the sciences and medicine. Going too deeply into the fun and games discussed on this forum is looking over the edge of an abyss. Look too long and you'll start to lose your footing, and then you'll very likely end up like a particular poster on this section. Juice and Traveler have it spot-on: Money simply gives us the freedom of choice. It's up to the individual how they use it. You will know what's best for you.

Domino

12-24-04, 19:34

Marry Christmas Samus

I was thinking over your words on this special time of the year and I would like you to remmeber those who are less fortunate. The poor we always have with us, so 3F them. Let us be nice to the old and rich this Yuletide. I am particularly thinking of the dudes who hang out at Nana Hotel's lobby, talking of their paid conquests. Personally, I find them very sad beings: the only companionship they can get is a piece of uneducated Isaan pussy. They would be better off in a nursing home where they could discuss their ailments, their Rolexes and their part time lovers in more discreet surroundings.

I wonder could Jackson organize a nativity play. It would be nice slotting the choir into their positions (you, me and Juice Spike would be the three wise men, Zop would be baby Jesus, The Traveler would be Mary etc etc). Only problem is the stable's animals would not be safe with some of our friends around. And "Mary" might not be very safe either from his/her sico friends.

Oh well. I am freezing my butt off here. Good pasta pussy for Xmas, Paris for the New Year, and Thailand shortly after where I hope to butt fuck 4 skanks a day for a month. I should retire soon after as butt fucking Thai peasants is a bore.

I figure some guys, like Pururple n Gold, have kicked the habit, others will but your critics are doomed to spend their lives in such silly pursuits and, in time, to replace the Nana zombies with their own sad shapes. Could anything be more pathetic?

Terry Terrier

12-24-04, 22:57

"Could anything be more pathetic?"

Yes, you, with your desperately cynical and warped take on life.

Merry Christmas

The Traveler

12-25-04, 01:36

Domino,

thanks for the offer but I have to decline due to the following reasons :

1.) I am no good actor
2.) The gender change is nothing for me, but maybe you might give it a try :D
3.) I am no virgin

I also doubt that you and SA will make good wise men because a wise man

1.) avoids unnecessary trouble and fights
2.) will never judge on someone he doesn't know
3.) doesn't care about other peoples business
4.) does not have cut and dried opinions and prejudices
5.) would be tolerant towards others
6.) wouldn't judge on shallow observations
7.) wouldn't feel superior
8.) avoids bragging (e.g. pics of "huge" cash wads, mentioning millions of dollars and so on)
and much much more ... (there is not enough space here to mention all criterias of a wise man you don't fit).

Marry Christmas Samus

I was thinking over your words on this special time of the year and I would like you to remmeber those who are less fortunate. The poor we always have with us, so 3F them. Let us be nice to the old and rich this Yuletide. I am particularly thinking of the dudes who hang out at Nana Hotel's lobby, talking of their paid conquests. Personally, I find them very sad beings: the only companionship they can get is a piece of uneducated Isaan pussy. They would be better off in a nursing home where they could discuss their ailments, their Rolexes and their part time lovers in more discreet surroundings.

...

Domino,

who is smarter, those who stay in BKK (e.g. Nana) and let the uneducated Isaan pussy come to them or those who travel to Isaan, stay in cheap bug infested shitholes solely for the purpose of fucking the very same uneducated Isaan pussy (only much uglier) they could have had in BKK ?
Is your preferred place - the Beergarden - a more discreet surrounding for such sort of discussion ?

And you obviously use to hang out at Nana Hotel's lobby yourself together with those sad beings (being one of them), or how else did you made that pic you posted 12-11-04, 05:49 in the SA section ?

The Traveler

12-25-04, 10:25

SA,

could you tell us more about those yoga classes ? How long do you practice it and how often ? Is it any good ?

I wonder if it had any effect on you. Thought the aim of yoga is to live in harmony with yourself and your surrounding by relaxation and solving conflicts you might have with yourself. But by reading your posts I still get the feeling that you haven't been very succesful in solving those conflicts. Here a few examples :

1.) You tell us you 3F all girls, but none is worth more then 15min of your valuable time. -- Opposite to that you tell us you don't get satisfaction from them and they are a total waste of your precious body.

2.) In your opinion only losers take pictures and only losers wank off -- Later on you tell us you wank off - fast (only 5min) and efficient, no big deal - due to the reasons mentioned above, probably by looking at the pics the losers had taken before.

3.) Bragging is only for losers who seek attention -- Why did you tell us about your million ? You could have told us that you want to relocate, would have been sufficient, no need to mention an amount.

4.) You believe that all Thais hate farangs. -- Only a few sentences later you tell us that you take yoga classes and share a softball team. Are there no Thais in those classes and teams and if yes, why let they take you part if they hate you ?

5.) Pussy hunting is stupid as leisure cause you will have to spend up to 10k US$ per year for daily bonks without any financial return, meaning it's a bad investment -- You rather prefer golf, where a membership in a good golf club alone will set you back more than 10K US$, not to mention the additional fees for a caddy and so on. Is it a smarter investment, how big is the cash return ?

6.) You complain about bad dressed farangs (sure there are many, I agree) -- but when we met about 3yrs ago you were wearing a T-Shirt, shorts and white socks in sandals. Not an impressive example of a well dressed farang.

7.) You also complain about farangs who dare to walk hand in hand with a Thai (not knowing if she is a P4P or a married office girl) at Emporium -- Why do you go there that often ? I hope to watch the movies (alone of course) and not to satisfy a sick fetish or any masochistic need (I mean that view hurts, doesn't it ?).

As you see you still have many unsolved conflicts within yourself and there are many more. But it's Xmas, the time of peace and love. Therefore I wish you all the best and a merry Xmas, hoping that yoga will help you to be a happier man than you seem to be now.

Domino

12-25-04, 11:11

Samus

As regards the Nativity play, The Traveler would want to be slotted in as the Director/Script writer so he could crowd everyone else out like he does here with his spam. Only problem is God wrote the script and TT acknowledges he is a worthless piece of s-t.

Well it is Christmas Day 2004. I wonder will we get to meet The Traveler in 2034 when he is propping up Nana or some other shit hole, regaling that generation's losers about his sad conquests.

Me? I like Nana and am debating whether to spend next month working there. So far, Pattaya has the vote, for work, not for skanks.

Glad the losers liked my loose change photos. If they knew anything about Japan or the world, they would know it is chump change though it might go a long way with the skanks of Cheetham Hill in Manchester, where losers have no money.

Skanking is a short time gig. Looking forward to reading the Travler's epitaph: he fucked a lot of skanks;):(:)

Coma Boy

12-25-04, 11:19

6.) You (Samus) complain about bad dressed Farang (sure there are many, I agree) - but when we met about 3yrs ago you (Samus) were wearing a T-Shirt, shorts and white socks in sandals. Not an impressive example of a well dressed Farang.White socks with sandals!

Fuck! No wonder Thais hate you. What were you thinking?

Now that this fact has been aired perhaps it is time for another username change.

Joe Zop

12-25-04, 17:20

short and simple (may as well be out of character, since domino's cast me in a vastly new one) to you all on the holiday:

i hope everyone here gets what (and who) they desire, that though we can't manage it on earth, there is at least some degree of peace on the forum, and my sincere best wishes to you all for now and for the upcoming year.

may the only starfish you see be left at the rail, may all your barfines be waived, may the price you pay be half what you know it's worth, and may all your condoms stay intact!

(are there archeologists out there searching for remains of the little baby's [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131)? seems like those would contain the holy grail of fertilizer...)

and congrats samus on coming into money -- regardless of whether you're frugal or profligate, it's certainly better to have options than not.

The Traveler

12-25-04, 19:05

Domino,

I again have to decline, I am no good story teller either. I rather prefer to stick with facts than fantasy stories, which you seem to prefer. That would be a nice job for you, since you like to tell everybody what he has to do, to say and to think.

Working at Nana ? Hmm, what kind of job could that be ?
Did you try the below mentioned gender change ? Like it ? Will we be able to see you at NEP ? As fas as I remember there was a katoey bar at the first floor on the left hand side. Will there be your preferred work place ?

I don't know if any losers liked your pics, I can only talk for myself. I liked them because they told us much better than any words could do, what and who you are. I also found it quite interesting that you seemed to believe that 5k US$ might be impressive for anyone here. Maybe you aren't as rich as you want us to believe.

Anyway, it's Xmas and even though I am no Christian I wish you a merry Xmas. Hope you use that time of year to engage in serious soul-searching and work a bit on your self-control and wording.

Samus Aran

12-26-04, 03:29

Fellas,

Traveller get your story correct. It was pink socks and green sandals. What a schmuck you are! Cant you just go away for the next year? You continue to nose into everything and frankly, you have no friends here. Go Away! As the Thais say - Shoo... Shoo

Coma Boy:

This was like 4 years ago. And, SA doesnt even own sandals. I have too much fungus under my toe nails!

Domino:

It was skanksville yesterday throughout Bangkok, as the white pasty men from overseas celebrated the holiday with the skanks of Thailand. They were on the xmas spirit as they doled out the cash to these humpers and told them the story of xmas. Like, they cared! And what xmas meal did these poor souls wake up to too? A beer and german sausage.

SA's Twas the Nite Before Xmas

Twas the day and nite before xmas through the Thai w.ho.r.e house
Every thai skank was fucking not even a hole for the famous mouse!
The white fat farang with cash to blow
had dreams of falling in love with a thai humping ho!

The newbie all drooling all strung out on V.
With only thoughts of keeping it stiff like a fine Xmas tree,
And hookers all shouted with joy and glee
"Oh hansum man, I am in love with thee!'

The soccer shirted man with belly to knee
HAd visions of a future life with a few Isaan girlie
He humped and he humped till he released his seed
And believed all the lies that this girls did heed

And now to the Foodland, buffet, or nearest food line
where he can eat like a pig and spend a few baht to dine
And beer is to follow on this fine xmas day
a great way to celebrate the sex he just had to pay

Now A, B, Kung, Kaew, New, and Fern were all girls he shtoopped
Like a rookie he fotographed them and remembered their names well.
The brain in his dick has taken over for some hooker who was hot
Throwing away his life for some for paid cumshot

Now he his in love with a brown skinned humping macheeeen
Cause he didnt read the messages form Samus Aran section of the WSGee.
He visited the same hooker more than once
Even when SA warned him to bounce.

(Added for clarity)
{He decided to listen to creeps like the Traveler
Who says its ok to be deeper with the isaan paid "employee"
A pest is he, The Traveler constantly pushing the edge
While the rest of the Forum would like to help him over the ledge}

Its off to the Emporium to browse and shop
She says she wont fuck unless its the new blue top
She berates him and pouts cause he not spend enuff
He buys more and more so he can get more of her muff

And to his bewilderment on this Xmas day
she says she cant stay tonite for he not pay
Another lonely ass farang
has booked her way

So back on the plane his heart filled with sadness
He has detremined that SAs advice is the best
3f these hookers that is the game.
Next xmas it wont be the same.

The End

SA

P.S. Next week the end of year review

The Traveler

12-26-04, 08:27

...
So lets see, an average of 6 hookers or massages per week at a cost of 1500 average is 8k times 4 is 32000 baht.
...

SA,

You are definitely not teaching maths !
Seems you finally adopted a bit, use a calculator next time.

BTW, that finally explains why you need less than the rest of us :)

JuiceSpike

12-26-04, 14:49

I'm working on business and personal logistics before I can book a flight to LOS... I will probably be there middle of January or first part of February...

Happy new year to all of you "fuckers" :D :)

juice

Domino

12-26-04, 15:50

I saw the Pope yesterday. Looks poorly. Old Red Sox they call him. Seems Old White Sox (aka SA) is getting stick now on his socks from The Traveler (who does not travel much).

I too have met Samus Aran (as well as many other equally famous people but his is the only name dropping I will do for now). For the record: at the Skankmongers' meeting, SA dressed.......just right, neother up nor down. He did not seem to dress up to impress skanks, or dress down to boost loser mongers like The non Travler but he just dressed as, well, as himself. Same as Firedick and others portray themselves as, themselves.

Now The Traveler is reduced to attacking SA sock's. Pathetic, methinks. But maybe The Travler has good socks (or a sock fetish).

Samus Aran might well move on, move up, or move sideways. He might well get caught in the bs cobwebs of Buddhism. Who knows? What we do know is The Traveler wil never move on. He will be always at first base, a puny Little Leaguer trying to impress skanks and newbies with his hired holes.

Nana Hotel is where I intend doing some work. However, as prices in Phuket should be more competitive now, I might drop in there. Who knows?

If Juice Spike is in Bkk, maybe Skankmonger, The Three Wise Men could again meet. I wil supply the gold, myrr and frankincense. Do skanks like those gifts btw? Samus? Will we lay these gifts at their feet? Or just lay them?

Cloud Seeker

12-26-04, 19:46

Haven't been to this forum for ages, so decided to see what's happening in the circus. Perused through the last couple of pages.

The Traveler and a few other folks, as always, are the dens of common sense. They've got it bang on on pretty much most issues.

_______________________________________

Samus Aran, you're not as amusing as many of your other adoring fans find you. What strikes me as rather peculiar is your complete lack of tolerance and your self-professed disdain for the mongering scene. For someone who has 1200+ (and counting) posts on ************* (of all Internet forums!), you come off as pretty hypocritical. You and your chaperon Domino blast the "losers with no friends in the Nana Hotel lobby", yet you of all people are asking a bunch of strangers on an Internet forum for financial advice. This speaks volumes about your social life. You blast the "farang cheapos on Sukhumvit", yet you show up in short, sandals, and white socks (!!???) for a meeting with the Traveler.

Finally, your posts beckon a question: of all countries in the world, you chose Thailand as your abode. Why? Why choose a country with no safety net, corruption, pollution, "dislike of farangs" (accord. to you), poor infrastructure - in other words, the quintessential third world. Why? Because of the food? Give me a break. The warmer climes? There are sunnies places closer to the States. Low prices on goods? There are ample places in Central America to fit those requirements.

I don't ask of you to answer all these questions. I am just pointing that your threads are little more than farts. And sir, do they reek.

The Traveler

12-26-04, 22:04

Domino,

read carefully, I did not attack SA, just cited what he posted before and reported what I had seen when he met Tap and me. I even wished both of you a merry Xmas. :)

It's not my fault if his stories and behaviour aren't consistent and I do not complain about his clothes. I do not know how he dresses on other occasions and to be true, I don't care at all. He is the one who always complains about others, people he doesn't know. Did you never asked yourself why he cares about other peoples business and totally lacks of tolerance ? Maybe you are so in love with him because you two are of the same kind : feeling superior and constantly ranting.

Anyway, I see that you did not take my advice to use that time of year to engage in serious soul-searching and work a bit on your self-control and wording. SA instead showed us his romantic and poetic side. :D

JuiceSpike

12-27-04, 06:23

SA, that was some kick ass poetry....You will make the literature types in here nervous.... :D

juice

Coma Boy

12-27-04, 16:02

I am just pointing that your threads are little more than farts. And sir, do they reek.I'm not agreeing/disagreeing with this statement, but I have to say it is excellently phrased criticism.

LOL, many times.

Domino

12-27-04, 19:28

Samus Aran

12-27-04, 21:50

Fellas,

There is a real sadness in the air in Thailand. IT is quieter. Even the hookers withtheir hardened hearts are sad. The aftermath of this even will be felt for years in Thailand. The economic loss will be staggering. It will make everyone of us respect the sea a little bit more. And while SA isnt one to get all soft and mushy, makes it real difficult to want to talk about the mongering scene as it is so insignificant compared to the tragedy that occured. It could have been anyone of us laying on that beach, shopping for shit goods on the street, or tipping one back at 10am with an exotic cutey playing wth you. No one was spared.

When the earthquake occurred, SA was in his building. SA could feel the building sway and it wasnt the wind. So SA could feel this all the way in Bangkok and knew this was an earthquake. To bad these people had no warning. This will wake Thailand up. Too many of the Thais walk around saying nothing bad happens here in Thaialnd it is safe and we should all enjoy it. Not anymore. But in Thai style they will look to blame someone or something. Hopefully, they look at this as an act of God and dont go pointing fingers. 'Nuff said.

Hey, SA got no feed back from Xmas day poem. What do you think?

People like Cloud9 will get no replies. with a measly 59 posts he doesnt deserve an answer.

Samus Aran

Samus Aran

12-27-04, 22:40

MacMAc,

It is Thai style not to make anybody feel uncomfortable. To ask the foreigners to vacate the beach would have meant to cause discomfort. But more than this, even if the hotel owners were warned, they had no training on how to order a mass exodus of people or probably just brushed the whole warning off as something that could not happen in paradise. This is just coming form SAs obsevation of Thai people. And Thais dont move very fast. And do you think HAns from Germany weighing in at 350 pounds with a beer and brautwurst in his hands laying next to some hired associate was going to listen to some hotel maid telling him he shoud leave his double padded lounge chair cause a big wave was coming? Would she have known enuff english? There are no lifeguards on these beaches either. That is another question to be asked.

Its not like a school fire drill which is practiced yearly and students know what to do. Basically, in SAs opinion, the Thai people in general are not prepared for saving lives in a natural disaster cause they have this feeling in Thailand that it just wont happen here. Also, if it meant losing money to uproot the people on the beach, this would have been a tough choice for them to make. This is what SA sees in daily life in Thailand so it doesnt surprise SA. Thais arent very reactive people in difficult situations. Nobody wants to make decisions that could lose money or make people unhappy.

New warning systems will be put into place and systems to handle a natural disaster. Yes there will be finger pointing as to why nobody was warned. Apparently warnings had been sent to Phuket and other areas but what were they to do with it is the question? Probably some bell clerk saw the message and thought nothing of it. And SA belives that some people received the messages but now, they will deny it so as not to face questioning. Its typical here. But the fact is, there is no system to handle something of this nature. In 2 hours those beaches could have been cleared and the majority of people rushed to higher ground. The excuse being that the expense for a warning system was to costly. Now, that expense has multiplied many times. Its no differnet when the Thais cut corners to build an unsafe building and it collapses in a year. Get it done as fast as possible regardless of safety. Its with their construction of roads also. It all comes down to expense and timeliness with not much regard to safety. Look at the wiring along the roads and the crossover bridges. Specifications arent met and nobody really inspects anything or if it is a bribe is given to look the other way. The new airport already has cracks through the foundation. It will be ignored. Thats just life in Thailand.

Sadly, many people are lost. The economic loss to the tourist industry will be affected for a few years but they will come back.

Comments

Samus Aran

The Traveler

12-27-04, 22:56

Cuckoo Cloud

Please forgive me if I did not ready your limp post with the detail you think it deserves. This thread attracts lots of people with stunted minds, The Traveler being the most obvious. We hang on the words of Mr/Ms Aran, not of the mentally retarded.

Samas Aran has been posting here, almost from time immemorial. He has, over the years, managed to upset almost all other posters at one time or another. Why do you think that is? Why do you think losers like The Traveler cannot get Samas Aran and the socks he wears out of their minds?

The answer is quite simple. Samas hurts their ego. They imagine that bagging a cheap $10 Thai skank is an achievement, something to write home to Mom about

...

Bottom line: Samas has a life in Thailand. Others such as The Traveler do not. Not in Thailand or anywhere else.

...

Domino,

sorry but I have to object.
SA does in no way hurt my ego, he isn't even recognized by it. All I have is a dislike in his intolerance towards others.
I guess all others he managed to be upset about him just felt the same.

I am still in good shape and SA and me are at almost the same age, but I would never make bad comments about "big/fat" people or someone who is older than me or anyone who dares to walk with a young girl hand in hand. It's just none of my business and as long as they don't harm anybody by their behaviour I just don't care.

Opposite to that SA's constant ranting and flaming of others can indeed be the first step of something worse. Today he attacks thai girls, then old and fat people. Maybe tomorrow he will target black people, then disabled people and so on.
Who and what will be next ?

You claim I can not get SA out of my mind, absolutely wrong. SA means nothing for me, I also have no bad feelings for him. I never called him names or something like that, all I do is citing from his own posts and raising questions. I am not responsible if his statements doesn't fit if you see them in context to each other.

But what about yourself ?
You cannot get me out of YOUR mind. Why is that, do I hurt YOUR ego ? Or are you just a loser as you like to call others ?
Read your own posts, in most of them you refer to me or try to attack me, direct or indirect. I don't mind, by doing so - and especially the way you do it - you only show how insecure you are. I never used any bad wording against you, opposite to you. Your total lack of self control, good manners and the skills of engaging on a higher level makes you look like an ugly fool. I rather feel honored by your attacks, seems I am an important part of your life. Guess I make your life worth living, being the salt in your soup :D

You are extremely limited and predictable. All your thinking is about ho's and skanks. Damn, don't you have anything else in your life ? You talk about stunted minds and claim to be one of them, but you sound like being one of the mentally retarded. You love to attack others you don't know shit about but obviously do the very same things like those you call sad beings.

You should also avoid to imply that you speak for the vast majority of the forum or even mankind. You can speak only for yourself and nobody else.

Finally, I have lived in Thailand long before SA even knew where Thailand is. I also still have a life there, not only because of family ties and many friends. I also still have some (imaginary) business there which I have to take care of. The profits are in part (again imaginary) donated to the FR. Ray Foundation as you might have seen. What do you do for the less fortunate besides suggesting to 3F them ?

ps: Cuckoo head: Hope your fox hunting is going well;) and 291 posts does not equate to thousands. No wonder you like The Traveler so much. Solidarity of the Retards:)

P.S. : Quantity is no substitute for quality.
I have over a thousands posts as well and you still don't like what I have to say, strange, isn't it ? :)

JuiceSpike

12-28-04, 00:18

The beauty of this site lies on the freedom to post all kinds of things including our deepest bullshit and ways of expression whether it is in the form of a picture or just using words that people may or may not like. Freedom of expression and independent thinking even when the ideas may be repulsive or against your values is what matters. Personal attacks come and go, ideas last forever.

Offensive?

If anybody in here is offended by the language or ideas being used they are wasting their time. Lets face it, this is a website about fucking and not about “life.” If anybody in here is depending on this site to form and shape their lives they need help immediately… Yes, discussing ideas is useful but to try to sensor anybody’s views by judging their ideas I see it as hypocritical…

Samus Aran

He is in my mind an independent thinker. I know some of you are offended by his ideas and by his views but at the end of the day he at least has a point of view. Maybe if some of you relax a bit and don’t take it so seriously you will also see that in the end what matters is to have the freedom to express even when it is “politically incorrect.”

I know that guys that might even hate SA read his stuff.

Domino

He is one of a kind. I think he has one of the most hilarious twisted stuff ever written in here and his reports are great. Yeah, I don’t agree with everything he writes and sometimes I have to read in between the lines (still it makes no sense :D) but they are original and unique. Let him be.

Serious?

If anybody in here is not catching on the humor behind the 2 guys above they are wound-up too tight.

Juice them, spike them…:p

juice

Cloud Seeker

12-28-04, 01:58

mr. domino: were your parents siblings? after reading your highly intelligent posts, i came to the conclusion that i am in favor of abortion in cases of [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128).
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folks,

it is very simple. this is a sex forum. simple as that. this is, in essence, a virtual beer bar, ladies of the night being the notable absentees. samus aran lecturing others here on "screwing $10 skanks" is akin to sitting at thermae and commenting on how sorry and pathetic the whole scene is. let me give you a hint: if you don't like the scene, leave.

i have no problem with mr. aran's "3f" advice. i admit that it is quite handy and is certainly not devoid of common sense. i do, however, get worked up with what is nothing less but his complete disdain for the mongering scene which is the sole purpose of this forum. if you don't like it here, leave. there are lots of other internet forums which deal with general life in thailand. it is amusing that for someone who is so fretful over the $10 hookers, he spends so much of his time and energy posting here. mr. domino claims s.a. has a life, yet s.a. is the one playing ann landers to the "pathetic bald fat newbies", day in, day out. i would imagine that someone that "has a life" has far better things to do with his time. and why in the world did he move to thailand to begin with, if not for the women?

his discussion of thai prostitutes is pure sleaze. they may be hookers, but they are still women. this isn't about buying them flowers; it's about recognizing their plight and the shit they have to go through daily, and be mindful of that.

lastly, here is this: if i want to see a thai hooker twice, i will do that. if i want to take her to the emporium, i will do that. if i want to lavish her with jewellery, i will do just that. it is my hard-earned money and my vacation, and no one has the right to tell me how to use it. if some other "fat, bold newbie loser" wants to do that, i'll cheer him on! and if you don't like it, well, up yours.

that's it for me on s.a. thread. posting here and reading the posts makes me feel like i am digging myself out of a pile of shit.

cheers

JuiceSpike

12-28-04, 03:15

I thought your poetry was, hmm... well, beautiful...

(keep practicing...)

juice

Joe Zop

12-28-04, 05:18

Samus, excellent thoughts on the disaster. How many of us have looked at the build-up along Patong and thought it was a disaster waiting to happen? But the truth is most felt the terrible attack there would come from man and not nature. Let's face it -- even though there's going to be a lot of noise and talk and even changes in the face if this tragedy, not much is really going to change over such a one-in-a-century natural upheaval. The other sad truth is that had this happened during low season, when there were not many tourists about, instead of during the holidays, people wouldn't be noticing or exclaiming nearly so much. (My news is certainly not filled with Thai, Sri Lankan or Indian faces -- instead it's survivor accounts from tourists.) Remember that exactly a year ago there were some 30,000 people killed in an earthquake in Iran, and while that got lots of press I think it was mostly due to the war next door in Iraq -- not all that far away, there were more than 20,000 killed in a 2001 earthquake in Gujarat, India and basically worldwise nobody noticed. Maybe I'm cynical, but unless disaster has a familiar face attached to it, numbers of fatalities that large just don't compute for most people.

As to the poetry, it was inventive and I got a couple serious chuckles, but don't quit your day job :D (Though with a few revisions you definitely might have something there.)

Samus Aran

12-28-04, 06:02

JoeZ,

Good Points. Hey that was just a beginning poem put together in a few minutes. Definately have no interest in being the next S. Silverstein.

Even in Thailand most of the news show photos of the injured foreigners. A smattering about the locals who perished. And as only a handful of USA people killed, it wont take on much meaning except for the people who have been to SE Asia and stood on those beaches.

It will take a few years for it to get back to normal and the people will return but the confidence may take longer to develop. Certainly, in the weeks to come we will here more about why these countries especially Thailand had no warning system. Just reading in the Bangkok Post an official was quoted as saying a system was not needed in Thailand cause "something like this would never happen here. " Mother nature proved him wrong.

And furthermore, most of these little businesses in Phuket and the smaller hotels carried no insurance for a disaster of this kind even though they sit rite on the sea. SA knows Thais who wont buy insurance for their employees cause they say its a waste of money cause no one ever uses it or it is never used in case of property. Expense now is how the Thias think and not to much about future events that may occur. But JZ as u said, nothing will really change. Its just the way it is in Thailand.

And the taxi drivers doubling the rates to to the Phuket airport and restaurant owners triple charging for food, while the USA and other countries donate food and supplies without question. The Thais will end up selling these supplies for profit somehwere.

Anyways, its tragic all around.

SA

The Traveler

12-28-04, 07:47

juicespike

i absolutely agree to what you say, except the humor behind those 2 guys.
they rather try to use the forum to rule others, telling them what to do and not to do and by feeling superior, they attack and look down on those who do not share their point of view.

i do not really take them serious (especially sa, he is more a character for me than a real person) and do not care much about "political correctness", but if they believe they can say what they want, than they have to be prepared to get according answers. if they can't live with it, their prob, not mine. look at the wording of their posts and you will see that they take me more serious than i take them.

freedom of expression is the main point, but even that has it's limits. why do you believe that the lawmakers do not allow to issue hate messages ? they are not covered by freedom of expression.

also asking for that freedom means to ask for tolerance from others, but at the very same time both of them have no tolerance for those they ask for tolerance towards them.

don't you think we all should have at least a minimum of respect for all others ?

i do believe that things will get worse if we close our eyes to something "wrong". where are the limits ? what will be next ?

history should have taught us that bad things often start by degrading others, may it be a minority or whatever. what about racism, the nazis, the klu klux clan, apartheid and so on. it all started that way. is that also covered by freedom of speech ?

even though this is just the net and you can't really control it, i deeply believe everyone of us should make a stand and stop those who pray hate and degrade others.

JuiceSpike

12-28-04, 13:26

I have a twisted sense of humor and I definately don't feel ruled or looked down or inferior or superior for my ideas. Frankly, I don't give a damn.

As far as hate or degrading others goes, well, if you continue to pay women for sex you are keeping them down, in chains, dependent and that could be a form of hate. Your money is using them.

Respect? This is the jungle of sex, this is the world of pervertion, the strong survive, the weak perishes, ... There are no limits. Everything goes. Right or wrong.

History? If you are comparing SA or Domino to the KKK or the nazis movements you seriously need a vacation or find meaning in your life away from this forum. I say this not to insult you but I mean it.

Cloud 9

You wrote: ..."They may be hookers, but they are still women. This isn't about buying them flowers; it's about recognizing their plight and the shit they have to go through daily, and be mindful of that..."

Be mindful? Look if you really mean what you wrote stop paying them for sex. Find one you like and give her an eduction, give her a better life and a flower shop. Then take her to the Emprioum, she will feel better about herself and about you too. You are the sleaze :D....

juice

Titi Tigas

12-28-04, 17:33

I will be in BKK on business in March, and want to go to a nice resort first (bringing a girl from BKK with me, of course!). I am looking for the VERY best in snorkeling, sailing/kayaking/canoeing, restaurants (preferably buffet), etc. Bungalows or water cottages would be preferred; crowded beaches are to be avoided. Quality, not price, is the only consideration beyond the establishment not objecting to my bringing a Thai GF.

I am guessing that Samui is better than Phuket for this, given the terrible tsunamis. Is that true? What do people recommend for resorts?

The Traveler

12-28-04, 19:04

...
As far as hate or degrading others goes, well, if you continue to pay women for sex you are keeping them down, in chains, dependent and that could be a form of hate. Your money is using them.

Respect? This is the jungle of sex, this is the world of pervertion, the strong survive, the weak perishes, ... There are no limits. Everything goes. Right or wrong.

History? If you are comparing SA or Domino to the KKK or the nazis movements you seriously need a vacation or find meaning in your life away from this forum. I say this not to insult you but I mean it.
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Juice,

you stretch the term "hate" quite far. Due to your interpretation everybody who pays someone else for any kind of service - be it a maid, taxi driver, hairdresser and so on - might "hate" that person cause his money is using them. Sorry, that's nonsense. Does your employer degrade and "hate" you, keep you in chains ? I guess not, he enables you to live the life you are living by paying you for services you offer.

Regarding women : I do not degrade them and I don't keep them dependent or in chains. They offer a service and I am a customer, who treats them well. It's their choice to work as P4P or anything else, her choice does not depend on me.
But Domino and SA degrade them due to their profession, ignoring their character, attitude and everything else that makes up a person. This is usually called prejudice.

Regarding respect : Yes, this is the jungle of sex and pervertion, but that doesn't mean that you should treat and/or talk about those involved as objects rather than persons. There is no need or benefit in flaming or ranting. Everybody deserves some degree of respect, if we should loose our respect for each other, the world would look quite different and you know that.

Regarding history : I did not compare them to those mentioned, that was just an example where this kind of behaviour had led humans in the past. I know they won't have such a broad effect, but I think it would already be bad enough if anyone who was listening to them, acts accordingly and harms a TG because he saw her as an object and not as a person. How many must be harmed before it's not acceptable anymore ?

Domino

12-28-04, 19:24

Samus

I share your thoughts on this but spare me the Star spangled banner shit. (oh bye bye cuckoo bird, now if only the Traveler would also fuck off). Bill Clinton spoke some sense on this disaster (divide it up, let the USA handle one sector, the Euros another etc). What pisses me off is the jackals - and the baht bus dudes are only the small fry.

I heard the UN spokesperson beg for money. When pressed, he could not say what disaster in the past was like this. Finally, he said Hurricane Mich but could not say how much they got for that gig. Gangsters!

Unesco are another gang of thieves. They are going on about land mines in Sri Lanka and how we should send $$ to the Unesco fat cats as children blah blah. The governments of Sri Lanka etc are, meanwhile, asking for body bags.

This human calamity is party time for the UN/NGO leeches. The Red Cross, the Indian and Thai military and a few others are leading the charge, doing the real work. The Japanese, as ever in the vanguard, have sent $40 milion and 4 naval ships.

The Skipper, aka His "Majesty", the king of Thailand, gave $30,000, according to the Thai ambassador to the UN. John Skinless has also pleddged a similar amount - to the Red Cross (he does not support criminals). He asks all of you to consider your options.

He will be in the region soon, assessing the situation, giving and taking relief.

The Skipper lost a grandson by all accounts. Here is a report on big shots who were whacked: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=2&u=/ap/20041228/ap_on_re_as/quake_celebrities

Samus: When normal broadcasting resumes, please recall that if we take the fact that this thread has few photos, it is the no 1 Thai thread if we discount for photos. You are a true moral leader, up there with the Dalai Lama etc.

John No money for NGOs Domino

Fellow cherry blossoms: Same day last year, 26,000 Iranians were wiped out in an earthquake and 70,000 are stil homeless there. So, let's count our blessings.

JuiceSpike

12-29-04, 03:21

Traveler,

So in your book cutting hair to different men equals the same as fucking different men for a living? If so, we leave in 2 different worlds.

I'm self employed, I own my company so nobody keeps me in chains except for my own greed but I don't let anybody fuck me to get what I want. So far...:D

Most prostitutes that I have talked to, especially in Thailand, would rather do anything else but fuck men to make a decent living. There is this thing called dignity and self respect that most human beings have and women know what it means very well when men are digging inside their hole. Prostitution is not as casual as you think it is as driving a tuk tuk or taxi.

It is by unanimous consent worldwide that prostitution does not benefit the woman in any shape of form and the United Nations has called it a form of enslavement and self abuse and degrading.

The moment you pay a woman for sex you are, like it or not, objectifying her for your pleasure. Yes, you pay for it and it becomes a service but that is not the point. The point is that she in an object for your pleasure and nothing more. It is different than a massage, where she will also give you physical pleasure but you are not fucking her hole (s). There is a vast difference and you may want to rationalize what you do as merely a service and that's is dandy too. Some of the most twisted mother fuckers in the world have a smile in their face when they want to use someone. Men and women. Being just "nice" does not make you a better person when you are fucked up inside. Hate comes in many disguises sometimes the least obvious ways and that is why the nazis practically convinced the whole country that purifying their race was a "good" thing.

The strech is yours not mine. I would never put Domino and SA in the same post where you discussed history to make a reference to the Nazis and the KK. That's just plain fucking careless unless your intentions were for just effect and even then that is insulting to Jews and blacks. I see no comparison to calling a hooker a skank, w.h.o.r.e., a sperm receiver or whatever to what the Nazis did to millions of human beings, men, women and children.

If you really think that the TG are being harmed by the attitude of men in this board you, in my humble opinion, don't know yourself very well or you don't understand the jungle.

Juice

The Traveler

12-29-04, 07:42

juice,

i agree to most of what you said. i know that the services offered by a p4p girl can't really be compared with other kinds of services offered to us. but your point was that our money is using them. even you (as being self-employed) are used by the money of the ones who hire you, right ?

as you point out, it's also a question of dignity and self-respect. but do we have to destroy the little rest of dignity and self-respect those girls managed to keep by referring to them as objects ? i guess not.

therefore domino and sa should be more careful with their wording. i don't mind calling them hos, skanks, w.h.o.r.e.s or the like, but telling us that they are less worth than a used kleenex is indeed the wrong message.

don't you think jackson had something in mind when he banned the word "w.h.o.r.e" ?
also read the forum rules, hate messages, racist messages and race taunting are defined as spam and forbidden by the admin.
anyway, it's not the wording i complain about, it's the attitude behind it and you know that.

i didn't compare domino and sa to nazis, kk or others like that. i just used it as an example in a seperate post to display what humans have been able to do in the past if they feel superior and refer to other people as objects rather than human beings. maybe it was inappropriate - even though both seem to like exaggerations and have a tendency to issue racist comments. if i hurt your "good taste" i hereby apologize.

btw, where was your "good taste" about six weeks ago when domino stated that i am a german and directly compared me to nazis ? (all germans have been and still are nazis, didn't you know ?) using another of his prejudices to stigmatize me again. (isn't it racist to judge someone solely by it's origin ?) maybe i am blind, but i haven't seen any criticism about that from you.
why, double standards ?

i indeed believe that the attitude of men - not only in the forum - can, not necessarily have to, but can harm the girls. if you see the people you interact with as objects rather than human beings, then there might be the chance that people out there will treat them as objects, kick them, butt fuck [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) them and more like that.

i was once in the carlton pattaya hotel 17yrs ago where exactly that took place. a couple of arabs ordered some food at night and when a girl brought the food up to their room they raped and kicked her. sure they were arrested later on (maybe bribed to get loose) but that doesn't make it unhappen. in their eyes they were superior to tgs, understanding them just as sperm recipients and acted accordingly. that wouldn't have happened if those guys had at least a tiny bit of respect for them that everybody deserves.

you know that these things happen and it has nothing to do with not knowing myself or understanding the jungle out there. treatment of people is in fact dependent on your opinion about them and if you have no respect for them whatsoever you might treat them accordingly. remember, not everybody is like you and me who can differentiate between the forum and real life.

juice, you absolutely understood what my intentions were in my recent posts regarding that matter. you have some valid points, which count for every monger, you, me and everybody else. but i wonder why you are in high dudgeon if domino and sa are just mentioned - again not compared - with nazis and kk in a single post at a single occasion, but you have no objection if these two constantly tell us that those "worthless rice paddy hos are less worth than a used kleenex". which is worse ?
again, double standards ? please do not try to construct something just to defend both, you are smarter than that.

p.s.
let's not forget that those "useless skanks" and their families are currently taking care of many of us rich farangs in the tsunami affected disaster areas. the poor and less fortunate are often those with a big heart and open mind, willing to share the tiny bit they have for themselves, opposite to some snobbish farangs who like to call them names.

The Traveler

12-29-04, 08:21

Domino,

in times like that we all should realize that our probs and little fights are absolutely nothing compared to what have happened to those affected by the earthquake and following tsunamis. Even the rebels at the province of Aceh / Indonesia declared a ceasefire.

I saw your below post regarding your donation. I hope it's true and not just another of your stories. Nevertheless, every single penny counts and can make a difference. I therefore kindly ask everybody - especially SA with his new wealth and Bill with his extravagant and lavish lifestyle as being displayed by his last post - to donate as much as they can to well accepted organisations where the money really reaches the people it was intended for. Donate the money you intended to spend for fireworks or drink less at Happy New Years party.

I am quite ashamed about my own government donating only a couple of millions. Sure they have send planes, medical equipment and personal. But much more is needed. So much money is spend for weapons and wasted for other useless stuff.

I am also ashamed about the media. Their reports are concentrated on a few tourists who survived the disaster and how to bring them back home and not the people who live in the affected areas and have no home at all anymore. Those tourists are the lucky ones, they survived and often did not loose any relatives or beloved ones. Many people - some tourists and local citizens alike - have lost their children, parents and other family members. The locals who live in that region have been struck harder than any tourist could ever be. Whole families, sometimes even three generations of a family, have been wiped out. Additionally to that, their homes, businesses and their whole existence have been destroyed. They need and deserve our help much more than our own countrymen, but I guess we all need familiar faces to feel touched.

Your wish of seeing me vanished has been heard. As being a volunteer in a national aid organisation I am leaving within the next 24hrs and heading to Colombo. We intend to supply drinking water, food and technical aid on Sri Lanka. Due to that I will be offline (or "fuck off" to use your eloquent wording) for a couple of weeks.

Don't forget, donate as much as possible, it does make a difference.
Thank you

Philo

12-29-04, 14:48

Traveler,
......

I see no comparison to calling a hooker a skank, w.h.o.r.e., a sperm receiver or whatever to what the Nazis did to millions of human beings, men, women and children.

......
Juice

And I can not see why what the United Stupid Assholes did to the native population (Indians) and the enslaved Africans is in any way different.

The difference might be that the gwBushwackers is to dumb to learn anything at all ... (Latin America, Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Iraq ....)

BTW - any u.s. businessperson is a money prostitute much less interesting than a TG.

Domino

12-29-04, 19:21

So he is off to Sri Lanka but not without leaving a few insults beforehand. Oh well.

Juice: I read your comments and those on prostitutes make a lot of sense and are very well written. Samas annoys people because he hits on thiose raw nerves of hypocrisy. A strange world we live in.

I would disagree with The Traveler about donating. Think before you donate. The aid industry contains a lot of charlatans. Hopefully, this great calamity will flush many of them out.

The biggest helpers so far are India (by a long shot), Japan and Australia. I am looking forward to visiting Thailand next week to see just how extensive the damage is. The Thais are to be admired, the way they take all this shit in their stride. The same goes for the other unfortunates.

Let's hope 2005 is better.

JuiceSpike

12-29-04, 22:38

Any chance you will post pics of your relief help in Colombo because my cynical view of you tells me you are not really going there...:D... If you do go I wish you well.

Anyway, you make some points but are they just a smoke screen to something hidden behind the hypocrisy? I'm being cynical again...

I will not travel overseas to help but hopefully my donation to the Red Cross will help the people of Thailand in need.

TO ALL:

This is a sad time for the world. I wish you all a good new year. Stay real and be safe.

I'll be back next year.

juice

Joe Zop

12-30-04, 17:04

I certainly second Domino's suggestion that donated money go to places like the Red Cross, which always seems to get into places quickly and do a lot of the actual dirty work during times like this. That's where my money has just gone and is going to continue to go. Given the massive scale of this disaster is becoming clear now that people are getting into Indonesia, I think it's critical that aid go to those groups that are going to be on the ground doing actual relief as opposed to those who worry about rebuilding. People can usually regroup and rebuild themselves to at least some extent after such a disaster if they can get their injuries taken care of, get fed and clothed, have aftermath disease kept down, etc. Phuket is still going to be a tourist destination after the cleanup, since such a tsunami isn't going to discourage tourists in any real sense any more than the possibility of hurricanes makes people stay away from Florida. There are only so many truly spectacular beaches in the world and people will still come to this one, possibly with even more a sense of thrill because of what happened.

SA, do you think the "never think about tomorrow" attitude is something ingrained specifically into Thai culture, or is it just a manifestation of the kind of attitude one often finds in the tropics?

Migrant One

12-30-04, 17:19

SA, do you think the "never think about tomorrow" attitude is something ingrained specifically into Thai culture, or is it just a manifestation of the kind of attitude one often finds in the tropics?

I am by far not well read in this area, but what little I have leads me to believe part of that attitude is from Buddhism.

I have read briefly, and long ago, about some of the major points and I remember thinking "aha!" that could explain some of the "live for today" attittudes.

I am sure there are others here more qualified than me but I will see if I can dig something up if you care, and if no one else with more knowledge picks this up.

migrant

Domino

12-30-04, 21:25

I see Uncle Sam is forming an alliance with India (the leader), Japan (silver), Aussieland (bronze) in tackling this great human calamity. Lots of Italians, Swedes and Germans dead. I am sure a lot of good will come out of this. Nero was not the world's worst villain.

On the subject of accepting one's lot: this is a part of all established religions when faced with caste. Thais do think about the morrow. In many circumstances, that is not a pleasant experience and is best avoided.

During past travels, I reported on pregnant Thai hookers in Korat especially. I admire their bravery and feel humbled by it. However, not many of them read this forum. The contribution of SA is he ratles our particular cages and he should get us to think about what we do and why we do it.

I would disagree with Samus on competition: I think some of it is good and necessary. If we have talent on loan from God, we should use it, constructively. That is the essence of aport, and much more.

I will be in Thailand in a little over a week, vacationing.

Duniawala

12-31-04, 16:33

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do you think the "never think about tomorrow" attitude is something ingrained specifically into Thai culture, or is it just a manifestation of the kind of attitude one often finds in the tropics?

Everybody thinks about tomorrow (at least most of us do). It is not a Thai thing. In the west people are taught to express their feelings and thoughts while the eastern cultures are brought up not to express such things. Humility is prized and not looked as being negative as is by some western cultures.

Domino, it has nothing to with caste as there is only one major religion which has it and it is not Buddhism.

Joe Zop

12-31-04, 18:26

Well, my point is that in some cultures nearer to the equator there is a tendency to have a fairly relaxed attitude toward tomorrow, whether it's "manana" or "Don’t Worry, Be Happy" or whatever. Some of this may be a natural tendency of geography -- no point in worrying if there's food growing and if you're not going to freeze to death, and it's tough to strive too hard physically on a continuous basis when you can easily get dehydration, heatstroke, malaria, and so on. As Domino notes, this is sometimes an issue of knowing your lot in life is essentially not going to change and therefore acceptance, and while Buddhism doesn't have castes directly, Thai society, which is overwhelmingly Buddhist, certainly has a marked social structure and all Thais know their place in it. As dominant as the religion is, it's interesting that Thai Buddhists also aren't ones who spend as much time worrying about or striving toward reaching "Nirvana" (or really even believe in it) as many others do, though the issue of karma clearly is a dominant factor. Thais are great believers in luck/merit, both positive and negative, and I expect this plays into their attitudes about the future.

Yes, of course people everywhere think about tomorrow, either with expectation of trepidation. My question is whether the tendency to avoid the issue, which certainly does exist in LOS, is something akin to the attitude found elsewhere in warm climates, or whether there's a particularly Thai spin to it, and what the differences might be.