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play3er - Packripper and Ron are both right. the only reason you stay in the Sheraton Chao Praya is to be a tourist on the water. It is nice but far from everything except buying gold in China town or visiting the sites down there or catching a boat on the river. You want to stay in a hotel near the MRT - Monorail system as it just makes life easier. Sheraton Sukumvit is next to it and the stairs are close by. MRT is aircon and fast and cheap and easy compared to taxis which are neither fast or easy. The entire issue on bringing girls back is based on being normal versus dumb. Come through the main lobby which is on floor two drunk, with a girl who has on hot pants, platforms and an old sweatchirt and you will get a discussion. Come in on the first floor by the restaurant, disco and no hassles especially if she looks OK. By the way if you are going to use a club girl make sure you see what kind of clothes she has before you take her out. They all wear the same thing on the stage or in the bar - skimpy clothes or Bikinis but then when they "get dressed" you can either end up with a dress and blouse or torn jeans and dirty sweatchirt. Make yourself known at that point that she needs to dress better or no go. This way it will be a breeze at any 4 or 5 star hotel. Where is the Sthorn Mansion don;t know that hotel. enjoy
Hi guys
Thanks for the feedback. Based on your comments, I think I'll make sure that I'll check out once I'm not needed to be there! Sathorn Mansion is I think quite near Silom Rd. At least, that place is near Patpong (if I don't feel like travelling long distance) and also Sukhumvit (I think about THB 60 to 70 only).
RJ - Hehehe, I'm currently doing a round of business trip and stuck in Seoul. When was the last time you were in Rainbow 3? Does your girls have a name or number for reference? Also, is THB 1000 still for short time or has the pricing increased/decreased? By the way, with talk about soapies, do you have any traditional thai massage place that you would recommend where they massage you the 'clean' way?
I'm suppose to show my colleague around (the only place he has been to in Bangkok is Patpong) and I'm planning to bring him to a soapie but he has stated that he would only do that after a good traditional massage (what a funny guy he is).
I'm planning to show him NEP, Sukhumvit Soi 33 and Soi Cowboy and then probably go to Ratchadipasek Rd to look around (since I haven't been there myself!). If you have any other places to recommend that is worth having a look or drink, let me know.
GirasSol:
in this world anything can be bought if you pay the righ price, and in Thailand as well.
In this particular case, the price is 20 years in one of His Majesty the King's prisons.
I understand that a Farang in a Thai jail is given plenty of opportunities to explore more original forms of sexual fulfillment, his or more probably his inmates'.
Just don't. Ever. Anywhere.
before we flame girassol...let's get his definition of "young" or "special" girls first...what if he's 80 yrs old and his definition of "young" is 20???
tapioca
Packripper
07-08-02, 19:56
brother Tap,
I think the connotation "special" in this case is referring to something illegal and immoral (to most anyway).
it can be found but is less likely to be found in the LOS nowadays. it's more common in the neighboring countries. myself I have no knowledge and certainly no interest in such behaviors.
I'm a Davis Group frequent flyer and will be for a long time. ;)
-Pack
Tapioca,
were you being sarcastic again ? I hope so.
Seriously, the LOS has never been a country in which child prostitution was widespread, despite all the collective hallucinations and fantasies of the western press.
For that matter, all western countries had -and still have- countless occurences of child abuse, paedophile networks and ecclesiastical misbehaviors.
Bottom line is: there are sick bastards in the world who find exiting to assault sexually young children. If some of them are stupid enough to believe that Thailand will provide a convenient playing ground for their revolting habits, just because it has a thriving sex industry (as this board is a testimony) then they will find out at their expense that the Thai authorities will not turn a blind eye.
And I for one am not going to feel sorry for them.
looks like Jackson deleted it...dat was fast...
i guess we will never know what "special" meant...
tapioca
OzGuy,
One tip I forgot is to avoid Patpong like the plague.
BassGod - care to elaborate on Patpong as I always have a good time having some drinks there. But of course, I only have it in the King's/Queen's establishments. Is there something going on around there that I should know? Sometimes I do go there to do some shopping too!
play3er:
Patpong used to be great 15 years ago.
Nowadays, it is overcrowded, dirty (even by Thai standards), expensive, and not that attractive as a place to find value-for-money pay-for-play since there are less and less go-go bars there. Also the night bazaar is really obnoxious.
Apart from that, there is nothing wrong with Patpong per se. Still, Soi Cowboy and NEP are far more appropriate for the kind of entertainment most of us on this board seem to enjoy.
Well as you all know there are plenty if rip off joints on Patpong. Also the night market is a real pain in the ass. In the past you could avoid dificulty by sticking to the Kings group bars. Even on their best days the Kings group bars are loud and full of smelly sex turists, there is always alot of pressure to buy Lady drinks. Well the reputation of the Kings/Queens group bars has been taking a dive lately.
My recent experience is as follows. I went to Kings 3 with a friend. Just to look not to take, ok. We had a few drinks and bought a few lady drinks. The novelty of Ladyboys wears off, as does the whole Patpong vibe, and it's time to go.
I say checkbin but before the girl can take the cup my friend grabbs it, he says that there has been reports of check padding lately. He counts all of the tickets and tells the girl "hok roy hok sip" (660 Baht) she takes it and comes back with the check
1140 Baht my friend is annoyed he flips the check back at the girl and says "Try again, HOK ROY HOK SIP!!!" She leaves and my friend says to me "NO TIP!!" The girl comes back with a new check 700 Baht. Now my friend is furious. He says it's bad enough that they try to cheat you once, but after you catch them to try again was really something. He goes through the tickets and finds one for 40 Baht for fruit. Since niether of us ordered fruit he tore it out and we paid the 660. on the way out he told the mamasan that she was a bad person for trying to cheat the customers. He put a post up on nanaplaza.com about this incident
and recieved many responses from people that had similar stories.
If you've gotta go to Patpong stick to the kings group, bring your own pen, preferably colored, and sign each ticket after you've cjhecked it to make sure it's right. The thing is that you're sure to have a better time at Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaze, or even Clinton Plaza.
BassGod - Yup, agree with you that we have to watch our bills. However, after a few trips to the same bar, I don't have any problem with being overcharged as the girls that I usually drink with checked the bill for me and count it out, show me the total first (after I've count it myself too!) and ask for my agreement and then only send it for payment.
Seydlitz - Thanks for the tip. The last time I went to Soi Cowboy, it was really quiet and the quality was just not there. However, will plan to visit it again next week and check out WickedWilly's girl!
Freeler - Thanks for the tip too, now I can count :) in Thai ...
Guys,
Will be in Bangkok, for the first time on the 5th November, will be staying at Nana Hotel, thanks to advice from BassGod, I looked at their site on the net, and they seem to have a disco.
Is there action to be had, right in the hotel ?
Keep up the great posts ....
OzGuy.
OzGuy,
I don't think I recomended the Nana hotel. I think it's a smelly dump. I believe I recomended The Majestic Suites.
Originally posted by Freeler
BassGod,
Nung, song, saam, sii, haa, hok, jet, phet, kao, siip!
100=loi
1000=pan
5768 haa pan jet loi hok siip phet...easy:)
Ohh, 20 is NOT song siip, but yisiip...
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Some more fundas are there.
Phan Song means One thousand two Hundred Baht
Ning Phan Lae Song Baht means One Thousand & Two Baht
Eleven is Siipette. (Alway when I say siipette they understand it siip paed (Eightteen).
Hope this completes the Thai Mathematics. Rest all is calculator. (even 2+3=5 by calculator) lol
BassGod,
I do appologise, you are right, you did suggest Majestic Suites, and that was where I was actually going to make a reservation, not Nana Hotel, the Nana Hotel website was the last one I checked out, it must have just stuck in my mind, it was the hotel you recommended, that I was going to stay in.
Thanks again, by the way, will any of you guys, be in Bangkok between the 5th - 10th Novemeber ??
Wouldn't mind catching up for a beer, and to get the lowdown, from experienced Bangkok travellers.
Thanks again .... keep up the great work guys, your info is invaluable,
OzGuy.
Will be in bangkok from the 10th of August .Still scoping hotels
Found the promenade Soi 8. I'm presuming it's girl friendly. Rates are good. If not the promenade the Majestic sounds good as mentioned here.
Has anyone stayed at the promenade ?Can't wait to visit all the spots.
Appreciate any feedback.
cheers
Hi everybody,
I know the WSGuide for several years and it has been helpfull on its time for different places.
I am used to travel to Hong Kong, Taiwan and Macau and I am quiet familiar now with these scenes. One day I will take the time to put a report about them.
Here is my situation :
I plan to come for the first time to Thailand from 4 of aug untill 10 or 11. I will come from Hong Kong meaby with one of my good chinese friend. He would like to stay in Phuket for the week.
Regarding the weather in August I am just wondering if we can really take benefit to stay in Phuket. And I guess Bangkok offers also more hot places and girls than Phuket.
So what would you suggest to me ?
1)stay all the week in Phuket (because we will still have good time there about sun & girls point ot view)
2)stay all the week in Bangkok because definitely it is the place to be
3)share half and half
I am reading all the forums about Thailand to pick up some informations but if you have any good pieces of advice for hotels, massage clubs, go-go bars, karaoke clubs, discos, restaurants, places to visit, relationships with thai girls, things to do, etc... I would appreciate very much your time and effort to answer here or on my email : amateur_ef@yahoo.fr
Thanks
(message also posted in Phuket forum)
OzGuy,
Iv'e been to LOS several times, and was there fairly recently. I'd be happy to give you any advice, or answer any questions. Here is a couple of more tips.
Don't ever go anywhere in a Tuk Tuk (three wheeled open air car) They often take you places that you don't want to go.
If you get in a taxi make sure they turn on the meter, if they don't say METER, If they still dfon't say stop and get out of the taxi without giving any money.
Frenchy,
You should try to talk your friend into going to Pattaya instead of phuket.
BassGod -- I agree with you that tuk-tuks can be problematic, but I'd say that's more true in Bangkok than almost anywhere else. In other places taxis aren't always as plentiful, and tuk-tuks can be pretty the only option. I'm not a fan of Bangkok tuk-tuks simply because of the heat and pollution, but riding in one is an experience everyone should try at least once :)
The real problem is that the drivers (taxis included) are all entrepreneurs and hustlers, and lots of them are constantly trying to upsell you into other things from which they get a cut -- gems, tours, restaurants, tailors, you name it. If you find you've got one of these guys, you've got two options -- just get out, or give him an ultimatum -- take me exactly where I want to go or I'm hiring someone else. Depends on their level of aggressiveness. Some will take you where you want to go. Some of them will say ok and then just ignore you (here's where the Bangkok tuk-tuks are particularly bad) and will take you where they want you to go in any event. If that happens, you should just sit in the vehicle and not go in, or, if it's possible, flag someone else down and don't pay the driver a thing.
I also agree with you on the meter -- though the issue is that most tourists don't have a solid sense of what it actually costs via meter to get from point A to point B (which is generally not very much, as metered Bangkok taxis are pretty much the cheapest of any major city in the world.) which means that it's hard to know what a good deal might be. Once you know that baseline real cost, you can sometimes negotiate better deals from taxis without running meters and almost always from tuk-tuks, depending on time of day, traffic, and how much business they've had. Whether it's worth the bother to go through all that to save fifty baht is another issue.
anyone looking for detailed information on the sex nightlife in bangkok, i found a helpful web site. perhaps a bit too wordy but pretty accurate.
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/girls.html
enjoy, i love thailand, can´t beat the prices.
Stickman is good but I like bangkokmouth.com better, not as much night life but a lot more of everything else.
The only Tuk Tuk ride I'd recomend is from The Grand Palace to Wat Po. it's a short ride, it's over right about when you think your going to die.
Originally posted by Freeler
Smart taxidrivers drive around empty with the meter on, or don't turn it off after the previous customer left, and stop just before it starts to move. So you get in, say "meter!", he acts as if he is turning it on and, oops, after 50m it starts running.
I'm not sure about it now, but in 1998 it started running after about 3,000m(B35 then)...
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Two things here
1. I think it is same even now. Meter starts with 35 Baht & 3 Km no further charge.
2. If you see a Taxi with red light (installed behind the front glass on the dash board) on (from outside), it means Taxi is empty & meter is off. As soon as he turn the meter on, the red light is off. In this way you can judge that if you board in a Taxi with red light off, it means the meter is on already. Beware!!!!
Marco Pole
07-12-02, 06:57
Originally posted by BassGod
OzGuy,
I don't think I recomended the Nana hotel. I think it's a smelly dump. I believe I recomended The Majestic Suites.
Is the Nana Hotel really that bad? Everything I have read off ********** and some other posts here indicate that it's a very decent hotel with pool, disco, and perfectly located for the NEP.
How does the Majestic compare and do they have a website?
Thanks
MP
I'll be in BKK from 17 Aug. Stable Lodge Soi 8,
The on to Pattaya. Anyone want to meet for A beer on late afternoon 17 aug. let me know.
Nite_Runner
07-12-02, 18:57
I am "first time poster" however, have been a steady reader of WSG for the past several years... As many of you have heard this same story before - I am going to Thailand for a week (28 July - 4 Aug) and I am starting to research the area so as to maximize the use of my time while in the country.. I live in Tokyo currently and have lived here for the past three years... So I am familiar with the varying asian cultures.. Now to my question - I have contacted a place for a "tour-guide" while I am in Thailand - "The Queens Massage" - has anyone ever used this particular place? I have seen some of the female inventory and the gilrs look pretty good - however, I am sure that these little asian beauties are few and far between? Am I right? Also, I am being given a price of 3,000-4,000 BHT - seems a little steep.. After reading some of the post on this site - I could go and pick up a girl at Patang for 1/3 of of the price... Any comments out there on this?
skinless lives in japan too...
u guys can meet up and he can give u da low down...
email him and say....what's da shnizzy izzy???
i think patang = patpong...
i like majestic over nana too...
mastistic > promenade > nana
tapioca
OK. I am off to Bangkok this weekend (for the second time this year ! and contrary to Tapioca, I do have a real job !)
On the list of things to do this time:
- oil massage at Baron's
- try this Viagra thing
- soapies, B-course etc. at various places (CP2 in particular, that I never tried, and Annie's just to see how much value-for-money it is)
- Soy CowBoy (never had the time to do it this decade)
Off the list are:
- Eden (all that harcore is so much un-Thai to me)
- No-hands restaurants (disgusting, really, and not fun alone anyway)
Any comments/suggestions ?
This is on top of connecting with my rent-a-girlfriend, of course. I will need to give her some time-off while I go sightseeing...
Originally posted by Freeler
It's real easy to remember too, like in the Red Light Districts at home: Red light on means welcome, red light off means lady is busy :)
***
Is that so !!!!
I thought that is like operation theater. Red Light :) ON :) means operation is going on. Off means over. lol :)
Marco Pole.
No the Nana hotel isn't that bad. I stayed there the first night of my first visit and the room wasn't to my likeing. It was a little run down, but the main problem was the smell of mildew in the carpet and towels. As far as I can tell the two advantages that the Nana has over the Majestic Suites is that it has a pool, and it's a slightly shorter stagger from Nana Plaza.
I don't really see a terible advantage to having a pool, I'm not a big fan of pools and I don't see the point of going to the other side of the world to hang out at a swimming pool. The Nana disco is open to anyone no matter where they are staying.
The next night I moved to the Majestic Suits (http://www.majesticsuites.com) and I've stayed there everynight I've been in BKK since then. The advantages that I think the Majestic Suits has over The Nana hotel are many. It's a small hotel and you get really friendly and personal service. The rooms are clean and nice. There is a safe right in the room. A couple of the girls that work there are very pretty and friendly especially the waitress and the front desk clerk with the tattoo on her finger. It's around the corner from Nana plaza instead of right in front of it, it's close enough but not right in it. The downstasirs Cafe has excellent food. the bottom line is that I am comfortable at the Majestic Suits, and wasn't at Nana hotel.
Try the Dynasty Inn across from Nana hotel. Best hotel for Americans because they know how to give good service. Good food, cafe open 24 hrs. Owner named Johnny use to run hotel in USA.
Marco Pole
07-13-02, 04:07
Thanks Bass. I'll give em both a shot considering they're practically next to one another. I'm not a big "pool guy" myself but it sounds like the weather out there is pretty hot so I thought it might be nice to have one around. Peace
MP
The pool at Nana isn't too great. I lived in BKK for six years. I know just about everything there is to know about thailand. Married my thai wife over there now living in LA
DaBluesMan
07-13-02, 05:54
2 questions. as I am on the way to BKK soon (again).
Thermae... some have posted that it's tatty. I was there in 97 and hooked with a great little FL, but has it gone downhill?
I'm travelling business, staying at the Sheraton on Capt Scott Lane, by the river. Have stayed there before, and had no trouble bringing girls up. But anyone know the current score?
Finally, only there two nights... whats my best bet, Cowboy or NEM? I know to dismiss Patpong.
Freeler:
why the "!" ? Well, it seems that those who can be in Thailand more than once a year are a tiny minority, and as you know I enjoy being in a minority, especially such a great one.
Anyhow, I'll do my best to make you proud.
Mr Z Man,
Off hand do you know what the rates are for the Dynasty inn? Do you know if they have a URL? I'm assuming that they are guest friendly. It's not likely that I'll stay there as the staff at the Majestic knows me now and it feels like home, but it's never a bad idea to have a plan B.
DaBluesMan,
I think Thermai is kind of dumpy but I think the main reason I don't like it is because it's a straight out meat market. No Dancing girls, no show, no playing games and getting to know the girls. It's all about bussiness.
Do Yahoo search for dynasty inn. You will land at their website. Ask for rooms in the new wing, they are nicer!
Feeler > Thanks for your answer on Phuket's board. lol ! as you said not a good one... I still don't know... all week in Phuket... or Bangkok ;-)
BassGod > wow... you want to give me some more trouble or what ? ;-)
Thanks for your advice, but if u can tell me why you would consider better to go to Pattaya for the week it would be great ! ;-)
TO EVERYBODY > If some of you "good knowledge" guys are going to be in these places from 4th untill 10th of august and would appreciate to meet for having fun together let's contact me. I am not the kind of a glue stick but I appreciate people who have good experience and maximize their journey ! ;-)
Like Seydlitz's program... sounds good !
Freeler > Hey man... from what I know and read about BKK, hot and night scenes are quiet different between Hong Kong and BKK. The only similar point is that you have a lot of places to visit and to try ! ;-)
By the way... when I go to some brothels in HK I always ask for thai girls.... the best ones on my point of view about sex attitude !
BKK for me sounds more like Red Circle in Amsterdam (at least in the past time)
What do you think about Pattaya and last messages from Marcostraight on Pattaya's board ?
Sounds good too no ?
Frenchy,
Sorry to complicate things for you, I'll try to give you the short version as to why I think you should go to Pattaya.
There is absolutely no place on the planet that I've ever heard of where the women treat men better than in Pattaya.
Hope thet helps.
Freeler > lol, well meaby next step will be a 3 weeks journey but this time would be only one week :-(
I need to check with my HK friend if he's really planning to come with me or not.
We are used to have good time with massages, sauna, karaoke, golf, bowling, asian food, beach volley ball, etc (and of course girls but that is not necessary to mention I think, lol ) ... so meaby we would like to find for the week these kinds of facilities.
Regarding these facilities, again I ask the question (the last time I swear, lol) : what is the best place to stay ?
So now due to last BassGod answer I will do a count between the 3 places ! ;-)
BassGod > 1 point for Pattaya
;-)
Freeler > lol you like to challenge no ? ;-)
So now here is the count :
Pattaya : 1 (BassGod)
Phuket : 1 (Freeler)
hey guys come on to give your points !!!
(based on the facilities requirement written in below message)
I have visited websites today about Pattaya and it seems to have all that we need so I guess Freeler, as he mentionned it earlier, gives his point to Phuket for the siteseeing (?)
To follow...
Packripper
07-14-02, 22:26
hehe. that's like saying "i'm gonna visit 30 h*sh bars in my one month stay in Amsterdam."
and then when you get there, you hangout with the same people for the first 2 weeks till you figure out that you're a bit behind schedule.
you'll stay on track if you don't rent a motorbike .... um and don't go with the same girl twice.
;) good luck and have fun, mate!
Guys,
Are people still hunting for sex in Bangkok ??
There hasn't been a post of any recent sexual exploits for quite a while in here .... in regards of price, where the girls were found, what the experience was like and so on ..... or where you more experienced guys tend to find the best Bangkok has to offer.
That's the info I need guys ....... I need my trip to be the best it can be for the amount of time I will be there (6 days).
Thanks,
OzGuy.
OzGuy,
>where the girls were found
Everywhere but I recomend Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza.
>in regards of price,
1000 ST and 1500 LT. leave the money on their clothes while they are in the sower. If you want a girl LT but only want to pay 1000 try paying them after the first round and then ask them if they'd like to stay. alot of them will go for it.
I like BKK for all the things it has to offer. The night life is nice but It's not the only reason I like Thailand, it's not even the most important reason. If your planning a Thailand vacation for purely Sanuk reasons I'd like to recomend that you spend most of your trip in Pattaya. Pattaya is like Disney Land for men. and EVERYTHING is less expensive.
Very good time to go to pattaya now....Still low season so not so many farangs and so lots of girls with 'nice and cheapy' attitude.
Weather was not so bad.Don't go to Phuket.It's raining everyday.
Ok,that's all for now..peace and good hunting.
Nite_Runner
07-15-02, 13:33
In refernce to hotels - Regency Park, Bangkok?? I was able to work a price of 1,550 per day for a deluxe room - did I do okay or am I getting screwed???????
nite_runner:
I booked the Regency Park for 32 USD (1,300 baht) for a double superior room, tax and bfst included. This was (or it seemed at the time) rock-bottom internet deal.
So it looks that you got a decent deal. You should check that tax is included (it could be 10+7% on top), and breakfast for two.
I will report on the hotel as soon as I get there (in about 18 hours, I'd say).
Hi, guys. I went to CM2 disco and Hard Rock Cafe recently. The girls there are not bad, but the price is bit steep, ranging between 2000 and 5000 Baht for freelancer.
Just wonder whether there's any place to pick up freelancer (especially university students) in Bangkok. My taste is close to local Thai, favouring Chinese looking fair laday.
I have been to RCA...bit noisy, and certainly girls there can't listen to you as the music is too loud.
If you have any recommendation, let me know...
By the way, I'm staying in Narathiwas, Soi 24...Oakwood Serviced Apartment...any hunting spot close to this area?
Cheers,
xfile
GeorgiaBoy33
07-15-02, 20:21
Im looking for some advise. I have taken a vacation from work for 6 months. I was going to spend it in brazil or costa rica but after reading the asia post I might switch to thailand or the philippines. Anyway where is the best place to pick up a girlfriend for a few months at a time. I dont want to have to pay money every day to keep her. Maybe go out and buy food and stuff but not have to just pay cash to keep her. Also I will have a budget of about 700 us dollars per month. How much is a pretty decent furnished place there to rent and can anyone get by on 700 bucks a month. Give me some advise guys. I have never even been out of the USA so I want to have a good fucking time where ever I go. So tell me if I would be better in the philippines or thailand or south america. I dont speak nothing but english so I will have trouble with that where ever I go except maybe in the philippines. Thanks in advance for any info.
And one more thing. Maybe where they wouldnt mind as much guys with long hair and tattoos. I sure do not have the typical buisness man looks.
Nite_Runner
07-15-02, 21:08
Originally posted by Seydlitz
nite_runner:
I booked the Regency Park for 32 USD (1,300 baht) for a double superior room, tax and bfst included. This was (or it seemed at the time) rock-bottom internet deal.
So it looks that you got a decent deal. You should check that tax is included (it could be 10+7% on top), and breakfast for two.
I will report on the hotel as soon as I get there (in about 18 hours
, I'd say).
Seydlitz -
Many thanks for your help...
Nite_Runner
07-15-02, 21:14
Anyone ever heard of The Queens Massage??? I have read that a couple of guys have used this service while in there area.. Any favorable or unfavorable comments out there?? The guy that is running it seems to be a stand-up kind of guy.. I guess I will find out torwards the end of the month..
Packripper
07-15-02, 21:22
hola GB33,
That budget is about what the average to lower end English teacher makes here. And from what I see, they have no problem keeping local girls (typically working girls). She'll probably keep working though, as there's a remittance that typically goes home to the parents or whatever relatives each week.
No, you normally would not have to pay everyday. The line between prostitute and girlfriend is extremely blurred (some think it's nice, some think it's a trap) here when dealing with working girls (which is pretty much all that 98-99% of the foreigners have access to). Depending on how aggressive your girl is, you can just as easily get tapped out on groceries and knicknacks though. (I kept a soapy girl as a practice mia noi awhile back and that was 2,000 Baht a week in groceries... + rent, clothes shopping once in awhile.... and basically a lot of time). She might even start tapping you for some extra money for her own expenses (family remittance, secret ya maa habit, etc).
Before I go on.... try reading through SCT and also the How to Treat Thai women section of this forum to get more ideas.
I don't mean to sound dark. You can easily have a blast here (if you do it in moderation... kinda like c*caine or alcohol). I've lived here for the past 5 years and I love every other day of it. ;)
cheers,
Pack
Originally posted by GeorgiaBoy33
Im looking for some advise. I have taken a vacation from work for 6 months. I was going to spend it in brazil or costa rica but after reading the asia post I might switch to thailand or the philippines. Anyway where is the best place to pick up a girlfriend for a few months at a time. I dont want to have to pay money every day to keep her. Maybe go out and buy food and stuff but not have to just pay cash to keep her. Also I will have a budget of about 700 us dollars per month. How much is a pretty decent furnished place there to rent and can anyone get by on 700 bucks a month. Give me some advise guys. I have never even been out of the USA so I want to have a good fucking time where ever I go. So tell me if I would be better in the philippines or thailand or south america. I dont speak nothing but english so I will have trouble with that where ever I go except maybe in the philippines. Thanks in advance for any info.
And one more thing. Maybe where they wouldnt mind as much guys with long hair and tattoos. I sure do not have the typical buisness man looks.
Packripper
07-15-02, 21:30
You can definitely pick up (if you're defining pick up as "free") at RCA (IF you are somewhat decent looking, are dressed decently, a nice watch is an easy symbol of "attractiveness", and even better if you have a car), and the girls can certainly hear you if you are talking into their ears. And there are plenty of outside tables anyway.
Curiously Xfile, you can differentiate between working girls and regular girls right? Because if you say the wrong thing to a regular girl at RCA... and she's with some guys, there is the rare chance that you will be in a spot of trouble. Some of these RCA patrons are working girls, and some are also kids with their parents money (and sometimes junior might be packing daddy's 9mm to show off as well).
There are the regular freelancer spots.... next to Lumpini park across from the "World's Largest" night bazaar that's going on now. Also the Siam Hotel coffeeshop on Phetburi from 11pm-4am.
good luck and have fun! email me if you have any other questions.
-Pack
packripper@cabomail.com
Originally posted by xfile
Hi, guys. I went to CM2 disco and Hard Rock Cafe recently. The girls there are not bad, but the price is bit steep, ranging between 2000 and 5000 Baht for freelancer.
Just wonder whether there's any place to pick up freelancer (especially university students) in Bangkok. My taste is close to local Thai, favouring Chinese looking fair laday.
I have been to RCA...bit noisy, and certainly girls there can't listen to you as the music is too loud.
If you have any recommendation, let me know...
By the way, I'm staying in Narathiwas, Soi 24...Oakwood Serviced Apartment...any hunting spot close to this area?
Cheers,
xfile
GeorgiaBoy33 -- I second most of what Pack and Freeler have to say. I will say that your tradeoff is sort of like this -- the more touristy areas are more likely to have English speakers, but are also going to be somewhat pricier. There's no reason you can't make it in Thailand on $700/month if you're careful and you have some sense of self-control. But if you want to get boffed all day every day by different women you'll be out of money in no time, and the nature of the beast is that people are going to be after your money every day, as no matter what you're going to be seen as a rich foreigner. But it's certainly a very inexpensive place for the basic necessities of life. You can easily rent guest-houses for pretty low rates and eat for only a few dollars a day. The truth is that Thailand is tourist friendly overall, and you can survive there in lots of places without Thai, though it helps to pick some up.
I'm planning a trip in the fall for a couple of months, and will be staying in Chiang Mai in northern Thailand for a fair portion of the time. The places I've looked at are two-bedroom air-conditioned spots for between 5000baht (which is about $125) and 12000baht (around $300) and then a bit on top for utilities. It's easy enough to eat more than you can possibly want for less than $10 a day. So that gets you into the range of your money and the rest depends on your proclivities. $700 would be tight but doable if you looked at the low range for accomodation. My budget's about triple that, but I'm doing some other things as well.
I'd absolutely second the suggestion, however, that you do spend some time reading old posts regarding Thai women. The bottom line is going to be this -- Thai bargirls are going to define "love" and "relationship" as support. For them. For their parents. For their water buffalo and their mobile phones and their empty jewelry boxes. You come from a culture of plenty, and they come from a culture of want. Let's face it -- it's tough enough to get a girlfriend anywhere if you're walking in with empty pockets, and here's you're dealing with substantial cultural differences and you're just not going to find anyone who's not in the sex trade, which means no baht, no love.
Not saying it can't be done (and it would probably end up being cheaper than the other places you're considering) but it'll be tight. The problem is that here you're saying, "I've got a small budget, but I want ot have a lot of fun and have a girl for a while for no pay." If that's the case, you'd better have considerable charm, guile, and bargaining ability, because there's not a lot of places where women will make the deal of a longer-term relationship with no real future for free. What's in it for her? Now, tack another $300 a month onto your budget, though, and you should be able to make it work pretty easily.
GeorgiaBoy33
>Maybe where they wouldnt mind as much guys with long hair and tattoos
The girls in Thailand really liked my long hair. They liked to touch it, and comb it. They would always point at it and say "same same like woman". But they didn't mean anything bad they were just interested. Anything that makes you stick out is good especially if your not to old or fat.
The girls also seemed very facinated with my Tattoo's. I have a tat of a semi naked woman, you know a "mans ruin" kind of thing, and the girls always liked to touch it and say something like "pooying sooeye" (beautiful woman)
>I dont speak nothing but english so I will have trouble with that where ever I go except maybe in the philippines.
The first time I went to Thailand I spoke no Thai. I really don't think it's a problem if you stick to BKK or Pattaya. Also You'll be surprised how fast you can pick it up.
Oh one more thing. Although I found that BG's generally seemed interested in my long hair and Tattoo's What really turned out to be a big problem occasionally is my pierced dick. If you have a genital piercing you have to tell the girl before you pay the barfine.
as of today..it's at 40.6 bht to the dollar. that's about 28,000 bht for $700. come on people...this is barely enough for the experienced traveler going to the kingdom, not to mention a 1st timer. i guess he can rent one of those lil 8'x8' roach rooms that these TG's stay in for about 3,000BHT/month. But he wants a gf...you think this gf's gonna stay with him for long when she sees where he's staying at?
how bout this....since ur going to go for 6 months. for the 1st 3 months, stay at ko san road and just hang out...don't buy pussy and eat as cheap as you can. after 3 months, you should have enough to really live it up.
tapioca
Heck, Tap, it's going to be tough anywhere on that kind of budget. But if he's going to go abroad he at least could make it work in the kingdom if he's really frugal. And your suggestion isn't at all a bad one -- live cheap and save some baht to party with later. Better still would be to figure out a shorter trip, as for one thing, if he's planning on six months he's also got to factor in some trips across the border to get his visa renewed...
Hi everybody,
Thanks for your contributions !
Always interesting to read you guys about any Thailand matter ;-)
Haven't make my choice yet between Pattaya and Phuket but I balance for Pattaya... with some nights in BKK as I have enlarge my trip with a couple more days.
Anyway I am happy because I had the confirmation yesterday about my air ticket ! :-)... ouhhhh I was shaking on the waiting list ! lol
I need your knowledge again... do some of you know these places in BKK :
EMMANUELLE
Health spa & Entertainment Club
Location : Ratchadphisek near the Emerald Hotel
HONOLULU
Love Boat Club
Location : Near RCA
COPA CABANA
Entertainment Resort & Suites
Location : Soi Ratchada
VICTORIA
Private Secret Paradise
Location : Soi Soonwijai
HIGH-CLASS
Traditional Way of Thai Massage
Location : Ratchadphisek near EMMANUELLE (top of the list)
BARBARA
Light & Easy Massage
Location : Soi Ratchada
Some more information about the below list of places
That comes from my HK friend. It is an advert he has scanned and sent to me. SO even if I can guess what some of these people are doing I need not only your point of view about the services but also the kind of services they provide !!! ;-)
Thanks !
Georgia Boy,
Dont go the 6 month route ... better to just take a 3 month vacation and double your budget and enjoy yourself.. I can imagine that 6 months on a $700 budget will probably be more hassle and stress than its worth.. kind of defeats the purpose of a vacation.
Packripper
07-16-02, 18:37
Hehe. I know every single one of these places. :p In short, started by Khun Davis (Thai-Chinese fella, don't let the "Davis" fool ya), who is about 45 years old now, who started with Victoria's Secret (the most out of the way of his clubs) and used the profits from that to open up the rest.
Um... don't pay much attention to the "health club/spa, secret tropical what not..." they are all your basic upper end massage parlour with fish bowl, vip area, bar, lounge, and upstairs rooms and vip suites. This place is set apart by being a little bit pickier with girls (but not always) and definitely having nicer rooms than the touristy places.
The pricing system is pretty much the same across the board (with the exception of westerners sometimes but not always being charged a 900-1,000-1100 Baht surcharge on the whim of whatever manager or captain of cheer guests are on duty):
1900 fish bowl
2000 gold star
2100 double gold star
2500 vip
2800 sideline
3400-4400 karoake girls
50,000 Baht = standard VIP membership (you get 20 x 1900 fishbowl coupon which you can use on any class.. same as cash, 4 bottles of Johnny Walker black, and you can use the vip suites 3 times.... if you choose, I recommend these rooms: Baan 4 or Baan 2/2, best layout and sound/TV systems) ... i am not sure if foreigners can get memberships or not, but I don't see why not.
standard tip for the cheer guest (or at least what I tip) = 100-200 Baht
standard tip for the girl = 500-1000 Baht
The girls sometimes change work between the different places... there are many regulars, but also fresh faces coming in all the time.
If you're going to hit them all... it's best to do so in this order (and of course it'll take a day or two... or three) ; )
Start at Honolulu.... then to Emmanuelle (walk to Hi Class; about a 50 meter walk), then to Copa Cabana (it's the very first left hand turn after Poseidon -> big orange building, Barabara is about 100 meters past Copa Cabana. Victorias Secret is out of the way a bit (in the back of a neighborhood)... if you're not driving, you might as well skip it because there's nothing else there. Unless you just want to see the first place that Khun Davis started his empire. So I guess ifyou're at Bara Bara, just say "Victoria's Secret" to the valet and he'll either give you directions (if you can understand Thai) or tell a taxi for you. I'd tell you the way... but most of the way is along the road that hugs the new MRT assembly area and I'm not sure what the name of that road is.
Apart from the girls (and how the rest of the staff treats you... or at least your wallet anyway), what I like best about these clubs are all of the Tony Montana "The World is Your's" statues, fountains, etc. If you're going with a large group or crew, besure to take a group photo in front of one (outside preferably, and make sure no other guests OR their cars are in your photo, because that breaks the local male code) ;). Good bonding photo opportunity.
;)
enjoy!
Pack
Originally posted by Frenchy
Hi everybody,
<SNIP>
I need your knowledge again... do some of you know these places in BKK :
EMMANUELLE
Health spa & Entertainment Club
Location : Ratchadphisek near the Emerald Hotel
HONOLULU
Love Boat Club
Location : Near RCA
COPA CABANA
Entertainment Resort & Suites
Location : Soi Ratchada
VICTORIA
Private Secret Paradise
Location : Soi Soonwijai
HIGH-CLASS
Traditional Way of Thai Massage
Location : Ratchadphisek near EMMANUELLE (top of the list)
BARBARA
Light & Easy Massage
Location : Soi Ratchada
Hi Guys!
I'm new here and would like to ask som questions. I was in Phuket last year and liked the place very much. Now I'm planning to visit thailand again. I heared that it's possible to find russian/european girls in Bangkok, any one know about any places?
If any one visited phuket this year, the go go bar topshow is the place is shut down or some thing?
jes007,
All the russian girls I've seen in BKK are fat, crass, expensive, and unfriendly. Do you mind if I ask you a question? Why do you want to meet white chicks in Asia? Don't they have any where you're from?
yes, try Mike's Place or the Grace Hotel.
But if you want REAL russians.., go to Russia
Originally posted by jes007
Hi Guys!
I'm new here and would like to ask som questions. I was in Phuket last year and liked the place very much. Now I'm planning to visit thailand again. I heared that it's possible to find russian/european girls in Bangkok, any one know about any places?
If any one visited phuket this year, the go go bar topshow is the place is shut down or some thing?
Absolutely, you travel to a certain country to experience the culture,the customs and the locals !!!! ..... why would you want to pay tripple the price for a quarter of the service ..... if you are travelling to Thailand .... go Thai all the way.
OzGuy.
Thank you for the advice guys, I'll go for the thais all the way! Is there any places to pick up amatuers. When I was in Phuket I always went to Banana club, shark og Tai pan. For me ii was easy to pick up amateurs, I'm only 29 and of south asian origin. Most of the girls told me they liked brown guys with long nose.
Marco Pole
07-18-02, 05:42
Hey guys,
I'm going to Thailand for the first time in October, and I'm starting to think from these recent posts that I'm not going to have any luck finding American girls. What a disappointment! I was really hoping I'd be able to shell out $150 for a nice meal, listen to her talk about herself all night, and settle for a peck on the cheek.
You call this place the promised land?!?!
Jes007 - GO THAI FOR CHRIST SAKE!
MP
pinochio was also brown and had a long nose...
tapioca
Marco Pole,
I know that you are joking but I have an expat friend that says he has a lot of luck picking up tourtist women. When you think about it it makes sense.
Marco Pole
07-18-02, 07:12
Yeah Bass I was joking...just giving Jes007 a hard time
I agree that it is often very easy picking up on foreign girls as they are away from home and are ususally willing to let loose more then they would back home. Half the chicks I hooked up with last year on a trip through Europe with my college buddies were American. However, this time around I'm going 100% Thai...from everything I've read here, they have a great attitude and know how to take care of business. I'm getting away to experience something new, not share stories about the states.
MP
Originally posted by Men who Pay
Hi I'm an assistant producer for a television production company in the UK. We are making a documentary for Channel 4 about the UK sex industry, and why more men in the last 10 years are paying for sex than ever before. We are looking for UK men who are willing to talk to us about why they pay for sex. If you woud like further information or would be interested in taking part, then email us at menwhopay@ricochetsouth.co.uk
The premise, my good fellow, may be wrong.
How do you know "more men in the last 10 years are paying for sex than ever before?"
Sounds like a good sound byte to get the story headlined on the news....
Charlie Sheen said it most appropriately - "I don't pay women for sex, I pay them to leave".
That, my friend, is the story in a nutshell!
Originally posted by Men who Pay
Hi I'm an assistant producer for a television production .......why they pay for sex
Do you want to say sex is available freee in UK. It may be free sex in Europe or America but as I understand it is not available free of cost anywhere in the world. You have to pay cost of sex in one or another form either at home or in the market. The only difference is when you are in a brothel you are paying direct money, with your girl friend you buy expensive gifts for them & at home you are buying all the needs of life. Nowhere it is free. It may be expensive and cheaper depending on quality.
I think if you want to know why more men are going to pros then it is little different but logical question. For this Mr. Jackson has made a seperate topic, you can refer to that i.e. Morility of pros.
Hi guys,
I have been in BKK for 5 days, and it has been quite nice so far.
I hooked up with my local sweetheart at the airport and we headed straight to my hotel and a welcome bonk. And another. And one more. I sure was happy to see her!
The hotel is the Regency Park on Sukhumvit Soi 22. Double room at 32 USD, tax and bkfst included. A good deal, I feel. Pool and fitness area (not that I have the slightiest chance of using it). The hotel is obviously girl-friendly (as most are) as long as you have a double room. But they check that fact every evening, despite the fact that I walk home with the same girl every night.
This afternoon I gave the sweetheart some time off, and I got a massage at Darling, which is within walking distance of the hotel. Very good session, with a highly qualified pro. She lacked some sensuality, though, and was very business-like in her approach. Still she did everything right (including great rimming). Since we had some time left, she suggested a second go at it, gladly accepted.
Cost was 2,500 plus tip. I gave 500, and she asked for more. I did not like that attitude, but on the whole, she worked hard for it, so I gave another 200.
This was my first try with Viagra, by the way. Overall, I would say that it works as advertised, and gives a good, natural erection for as long as needed. Great stuff. And over here, you can buy it over the counter at any pharmacy.
On the bar front, I checked Soi Cowboy (RawHide had a few cuties) and NEP. My girl wanted to go to her former bar, Carnival, which is good overall. She wanted to see her friends, and probably also to show off with her farang. It was nice to be the center of attention of the bar for a while.
In the conversation, ladyboys were mentioned, and we ended up visiting teh labdyboy bar on the first floor. Some of the "ladies" are spectacular. Talking to one, I found out that I never realised how much surgery they have to go through to get those bodies. An informative evening out.
Otherwise, I have hanged out at Soi 10, which is opposite to Clinton Plaza. A few pleasant bar beer there.
I plan to be in BKK another couple of days and then head north for some sightseeing at Sukhotai etc. all the way to Chiang Mai.
I will keep you posted.
Seydlitz,
Thanks for the report........I'm interested on the ChiangMai portion (and how you got there, tickets for train etc..) of your trip and the nightlife etc...you encountered there...Have fun!
Hi Folks,
Has anyone been to the newly reopened "Suzie Wong" bar in Soi Cowboy? If so, how did you like it?
Also, do any of you more experienced folks have any recommendations on areas where one can hook-up with women (hookers or otherwise) at places other than Nana, Cowboy, PP, Soi 33? I'm pretty burned out on these common area and I am looking for something new.
Thanks,
Dufus
Originally posted by Ting Tong
You have to pay cost of sex in one or another form either at home or in the market.
When I was young (say kid caus I am young even now) before my marriage, we usually discussed that why you need to have a Buffalo at home when milk is available in the market. Now I understand it better way. Milk is not the only requirement of life. You need much more but you need fresh milk also. So you have to pay cost of sex but the cost incured at home is not only the cost of sex what you get from your wife. You get lot of shit also free with this. (lol)
Hi guys,
it is 18:52 here in BKK, and still hot. I am typing this frpm an internet cafe next to the Sheraton on Sukhumvit.
I just had a great oil massage at Baron's. Cost is 800 for the 2-hour massage and 1,500 for the special. I did not choose the girl, as the mamasan assigns one to you, under the cab line rule I guess, but that lady was a great performer. Excellent BBBJ, she welcomed anal sex and was very cheerful.
I find that oil massage is a better experience than a soapy. Very much recommended.
By the way, I had a somewhat tough time finding the place because soi 24 is unexpectedly far from soi 22. It is on Soi 24, which is just at the skytrain station. Go into the soi, Baron is at the back of a side alley on your right hand side, about 60 meters from Sukhumvit.
Chikan,
well, as you may have read, I am sort of monogamous on this trip, with my very own sweetheart in tow. But I'll see what I can find in terms of nightlife in CM.
As for getting there, I plan to rent a car and drive all the way up via Ayuthaya, possibly Korat, and Sukhotai, in about 10 days.
Outside of BKK, driving is less of a suicidal proposition than it used to be. Or so I am told. I'll let you know.
From Stickman's current columnd:
"More details are coming through about this new establishment called Club One, which will be managed by Ricky, former Vixens / Rock Hard boss. Ricky runs a good bar and it will likely be a good place to check out. The place sounds like a cross between a gogo bar and Eden Club with different levels, each featuring different delights. The higher you go, the spicier it gets! One of the things that sounds interesting is that as you get higher in the building, there are security doors that have to be opened before you can get through. Now just why would they have those...?!"
Have any of you been there and have details to add?
Dufus
Seydlitz,
Thanks for the report on Barons. Was it 800 plus 1500, or 1500 total?
swanhunter
07-22-02, 16:06
Hi
Quick questions......what is the address for Darling's?
And any views on where is best for 2 girl action? Prices?
Much respect!
Swanhunter:
Darling is Sukhumvit Soi 14 I think. It is on the Soi just past the Sheraton. There is a sign on the road, and bif\g neon signs on the roof in the soi. You can find the exact address by doing a web search.
Hukster: it was 800 for the house, paid to the mamasan, plus 1500 for the special, paid to the performer (to which I added 500, totally unsollicited and gratuitous as a sign of appreciation for the eny\thusiasm and skill of the lady). And 20 baht for a coke. Total cost 2,820, quita a sum by BKK standards, but excellent value for money, for a service unaffordable or even simply not available where I live.
Just checking to see if any of the Bangkok expert Bros can give me any tips on finding great girls if i have only an overnight stop in Bangkok and need to stay out near the airport someplace? I really don't have the time to go into the city on this trip but wonder in there is any great action out around the airport.
Seydlitz,
You paid about 1000 too much.
Seydlitz and group....
There is a front entrance to Baron that you may not have seen...right beside the 7/11 store on Sukumvit... say 200 yards east of Soi 24. It's right at the bottom of the Skytrain stairs.
Also: you can pick if you prefer, fishbowl style. There is a queue system, but if you want to stroll through to the holding area and stand 6 feet away from 15 pairs of excellent legs while you make your decision, you can choose.
There's some good wheels in the place... hard to go wrong.
BassGod,
Are you saying he should have given the girl 500 plus 500 tip bringing total to 1800?
FranklinD - Don't consider myself an expert but sharing my experience on a short trip to BKK. Where do you intend to stay around the airport? Is there a requirement, company request or because you are doing an overnight transit or something else?
What I did previously was to make full use of my time in BKK, I didn't get much sleep! Why sleep when when you are in LOS, I decided to do it in the plane! Anyway, the trip from airport to say, Nana plaza would be around the price range (via Expressway) on a metered taxi, THB250 to THB350 and it only takes about 20 to 25 minutes (time varies based on traffic but that is about average time).
After that just party to your heart's out until 2AM (or earlier if you have made your pick and then head back to the hotel). Remember the soapies such as Darling and a few others are all near the Nana plaza, a cab ride of only around THB40 would get you to these places effortlessly.
Have a good trip and remember to post your FR on what you managed during your short stay. I usually don't get much sleep whenever I'm in BKK!
FranklinD:
I'd say play3er has got the right idea.... I have lived near the airport for 10+ years and I'm not aware of any "action" that would be suitable for a non-Thai speaking visitor. (Any of you guys know any different, I would like to hear from you!)
A couple of the hotels have facilities in-house where you can get laid, etc. but the choice of ladies is pretty limited and you can't be in the market for superstars... it's more of a "last resort" thing if you are really short on time. Definitely better than nothing... you might even get lucky, but it's iffy. Also, these are spendier than what you can find if you jump a cab and head downtown.
File
FranklinD
Play3er is absolutely right. Sleep in BKK is a real waste of time. Just jump into a cab and head down to Darlings for a warm-up and a clean after your long flight. Two hours later you will walk out of there feeling like a different man, then its off to NEP(I had a good report from GSpot the other day, just take your pick) and then back to your hotel for further entertainment.
Cabs are cheap from the airport. Just walk out of the Airport entrance and you will see a desk with a que and many cabs eager to take you to your destination. By the way all the meters in the cabs DO work so if the taxi driver says his does not just get out and hail down another.
Avoid touts, Taxis with broken meters, Tuktuk drivers who show you pics of girls, Patpong, Katoys (up to you on that one) and sleep. You will kick yourself when you are sitting in the US dreaming about the two little hot babes you had such a wicked night with, Sleep on the plane!
Wayne K.
hukster,
>Are you saying he should have given the girl 500 plus 500 tip bringing total to 1800?
No I'm Saying that I've had dozens of massages in BKK, I prefer soapy, I've never paid more than 1600. thats 1600 at the counter for full service. The girl gets most of that so tipping isn't necessary. I'm a nice guy so I usually give them 100-200 B as a tip only if they've given exceptional service.
u obviously havn't tried Baron's then.....ALL the girls ask for 1,500...I havn't met anybody that's been quoted lower and I don't think u can get that number down...
800 for the parlour, 1500 for the girl...way worth it, imho...
tapioca
swanhunter
07-24-02, 11:05
A quick field report!
Eden was a good . None of the girls are superstar models, but seemed pretty genuine and ABSOLUTELY filthy dirty. It's not where you'd go for a GFE....but a great place to do all the things a girlfriend would not.
A happy evening in Nana after that.....there is one absolute honey (a comfortable 9) in AngelWitch. Just wish I had the energy to do her justice!
It seems that everywhere (or the places that i asked) are going to be shut for the next 2 days for full moon festival and buddhist lent....am I right?
tapioca,
You negotiate "full service" price with the papasan before you even pick the girl. If they are sticking to the pay the house for the massage then pay the girl for the Boom Boom system the girl often asks for some crazy amount but will take the 1000 Baht that has been the ST standard for a while now. If they give you trouble (wich has never happened to me) I recommend you take the 800 Baht Massage and give the girl nothing. The one noteable difference that I know about is Annie's. There you pay 1500 B up front but the girl only gets 500 of that so you should tip her another 500 B, I would avoid that place though as the girls are not very attractive. If the girls are demanding 1500 B it may be because you've taken a taxi there and the drivers are getting a commission.
1) u don't negotiate with the owners at baron's...u just don't...
have u gone and done this at baron's? If anybody here did a baron's girl for less than 1,500bht (and of course, the 800 2 hr massage for the house), I want to know!
oh wait....
there is a price structure at Barons..
blow and fuck = 1,500BHT
blow = 1,000BHT
hand job = 500BHT
i got stuck with an ugly chick once so I only paid the 1,000BHT for the bj...
baron's doesn't pay commission, btw...
other oil massage parlours just does not compare with this place...there are 2 girls there that's fucking awesome in bed..
2) at annie's...i could have swore it's 1,000 BHT for the house...500BHT for the girl...that's what i paid the last 2 times there...i don't think paying the extra 500BHT for the extra half an hr does any good...cause i can get 2 shots in 90 min. anyways...
tapioca
tapioca,
Perhaps I haven't been to "Barons" but there are a lot of other MP's with very good looking ladies that are eager for your bussiness. My point was that paying 2800 B for a sex massage was too much. If your going to a place that is over charging then you should move on to the next place. When I say Perhaps I mean that I don't remember the names of all the places I've been. I'd also like to point out that Untill recently I had a very good guide that new how to negociate the right prices.
Tapioca,
Went to Baron for the first time based on your suggestion. I give this place a double thumbs up i.e., good value for money. I've been to quite a few soapies and although the surroundings tend to be nicer, it's much more of a formula experience. I you are after a relaxing sensual experience, the soapies are great. But, for some good slippery fun, the oil massage is great.
One question I have is how to select a girl. I was lucky becuase the one I was provided was great. But, I always feel there's a risk of getting stuck with an ugly if you can't choose. Do you know of any way around this?
Regarding the price, it was as you said i.e., 800 plus 1500 for full service. This is in line with most of the soapies I've been to in Bangkok.
Finally, a word of caution. That oil they use is petroleum based, like Vaseline. If you don't already, petroleum based oil and condoms don't mix. I had one condom disintegrate. Make sure to get all that stuff off your shit before you put on your hat.
Thank you for your advise.
Just wanted to know how you got her doing you anal, because usually they are not willing to do that. Anybody for tips for that ?
Hi guys,
it is 18:52 here in BKK, and still hot. I am typing this frpm an internet cafe next to the Sheraton on Sukhumvit.
I just had a great oil massage at Baron's. Cost is 800 for the 2-hour massage and 1,500 for the special. I did not choose the girl, as the mamasan assigns one to you, under the cab line rule I guess, but that lady was a great performer. Excellent BBBJ, she welcomed anal sex and was very cheerful.
I find that oil massage is a better experience than a soapy. Very much recommended.
By the way, I had a somewhat tough time finding the place because soi 24 is unexpectedly far from soi 22. It is on Soi 24, which is just at the skytrain station. Go into the soi, Baron is at the back of a side alley on your right hand side, about 60 meters from Sukhumvit. [/QUOTE]
if you just goto resturants to fill up ur stomach...why do you goto an expensive one instead of a cheap one? they both fill up ur stomach, right? cause the food tastes better and so is the service probably. it might be expensive for you and not worth it...but it is to me cause it's twice as good as going to a soapie...not as good a oil massage as the ones in HK, but HK oil massages are like $100USD for a masssage and only hj.
oh..u don't usually pay 2,800bht at barons...it's 2,300bht..sedlitz went overboard...AGAIN....
that's 2,300BHT for 2hrs of a great massage and fuck...seriously..that's not expensive at all. one man's celing is another's floor.
tapioca
JXXL,
just walk in and choose dood...don't be shy..don't take the 1st girl they offer you if she's hideous. they're RIGHT THERE...next to the cash register...how can you miss them?
I'm staying at the Sheraton Grande Sukhamvit for only 2 nights (quick stopover on a business trip). I'll be tired the first night so I'm looking for action inside the hotel. Is the FL action at Riva's any good? I know prices are higher but there is always a price for convenience. Also, any good "supermodel" quality escorts to be found in the yellow pages? Thanks for the advice....
BassGod.... when were you in Annie's? My last swing thru there was about 6 weeks ago and it was definitely 1,000 to the house. I am sure, because it was the first time in 15 years of patronizing the joint that I was asked to pay in advance. It set me back so bad I lost the mood, paid for my beer, and split. There was a new guy behind the counter... I didn't care for the look and manner of the guy. Hard to put a finger on, but it struck me the "ground rules" at Annies have changed, at least when this guy is around.
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I havent been to Thailand for a while but the thing I really enjoyed were the good massage parlours. Anyone been to Mona Lisa on Petchburi?.. supposed to be the biggest.
Originally posted by hondaman
I'm staying at the Sheraton Grande Sukhamvit for only 2 nights (quick stopover on a business trip). I'll be tired the first night so I'm looking for action inside the hotel. Is the FL action at Riva's any good? I know prices are higher but there is always a price for convenience. Also, any good "supermodel" quality escorts to be found in the yellow pages? Thanks for the advice....
Hondaman -
Please post back on your experience staying at the Sheraton Grande Sukhamvit. In particular, the location in relation to outside activities...eg. Is it fairly close to action, are they guest freindly, etc.
I have a zillion starwood points and am planning on an extended staty there in the near future assuming that it is conducive to mongering.
Any suggestions/advice is appreciated.
Thanks
Clix
Deep File,
I was at Annie's in April and I Paid 1500 up front for Full Service. Full service was negociated from the beginning. I gave the girl a 500 B tip because she was very nice and enthusiastic. Up till then that was the biggest tip I had ever given an MP girl. I'm glad I did because I hooked up with my friend later and he told me that the girls at Annies only get 500 B of the 1500 B so that made her take 1000 B which is the right price for a short time. She seemed very happy to get the 500 B and insisted that I take her cell#.
tapioca,
>if you just goto resturants to fill up ur stomach...why do you goto an expensive one instead of a cheap one? they both fill up ur stomach, right? cause the food tastes better and so is the service probably.
Yes but what if there were litterally dozens of restaurants with equally good food and service with considerably more reasonable prices.
>but HK oil massages are like $100USD for a masssage and only hj.
I think it's a little Coo Coo to think of Thailand in those terms. You have to remember that 1000 B is a lot of money for a Thai person. It's more than alot of people make in a week.
If the girls do get 500 bath out of the 1500, that's completely messed up considering the fact that the split is almost a reversed at places like Emmanuelle.
So, either the girls are lying or Annie's one jacked up place.
Tapoica,
Thanks for the tip on choosing at Baron. I thought, from reading posts on the place, that the policy was that the girls provided from a queue. Next time, I'll just request to choose.
Have you ever tried the 24 Inn ST hotel? The location is good for me so I'd like to get a read on the place.
Cheers,
JXXXL
look bass...if ur happy with one of your own oily places...good for you. and if you think it's a good value for everybody, i think you should post where it is so we can all try it out and then compare. arguing about whether or not he paid too much is a moot point. you've never been to baron's and we've never been to the oily places you've mentioned (althought I have gone to about 3 and trust me...none of the girls look as hot as the girls in Baron's).
800bht for the house, 1,500 bht for the girl..that's the price structure at baron's....just like going to a soapie except the girls do way more work here.
tapioca
Packripper
07-29-02, 01:04
whoa, talking about splits? haven't been on the board for awhile. interesting where it's going. i guess.
:p
the split is usually around 1,000 for the girl and less for the house. at emm (and all of davis group for that matter), if the girl is getting 1,900, the house gets 900 of that. even at the lower end thai/asian oriented places (basically all of the no name places on ratchada that are non ktv clubs), if the girl is getting 1300-1500, the girl is still getting 900 and the house getting the rest.
honda,
i haven't noticed any freelancer action at rivas at all. it's one of my regular hangouts and the only working girls i see are the ones that are brought in by guests. but maybe i'm not looking hard enough. try not to hit on anyone there with their bodyguard or enforcer and you'll be okay. ;)
ah, hotel tip for the week. ratchada city hotel... if you favor the ratchada scene, 500 a night (lt). clean rooms, springy beds. i usually get a room there if i don't want the girl to know where my nearby sin pad is.
cheaper than the nearby peep inn st motel (540 baht for st) and not nearly as shady. plus you're 200-300 meters from huay kwang market which is a fun place to "window shop" until 4am just about every night of the year. i'm not sure if falangs are charged more or not. anyone?
hope all are having fun...
-pack
I'm visiting BKK in September - thanks for the advice on where to go.
I'm interested in taking photos of the girls, not hardcore stuff but maybe some naked, like on the photos section of the WSG. I don't have a digital camera. If I was to put a film in for development in BKK, would that cause a problem when I went to collect it?
Thanks.
to adlez.
1. the site of foreigners parading their upcountry bride on loan does make for interesting sideshow especially when i'm stuck in bkk's traffic jam.
2. speechless.
3. yep, bkk is definitely filthy compare to sg, us, jp, etc. again, what do you expect from a 'developing country? i live here so i have to get use to it..don't like it but i can only do my part. as for food stalls, if you know where to go, those are actually quite clean. you'll be surprised what goes on behind the kitchen at some of the restaurants here...ignorance's bliss i guess.
4. sukimvit 33, those chics gotta pay me for st, lt, or anytime for that matter.
5. thank goodness for globalization. this is capitalism at its purest baby. deal with it like you deal with any business. i mean, what do you expect...driving miss daisy? you come to bkk to use its people so be prepared to pay for it. p.u.f (pay. use. forget.) simple enough :)
f.f.f. - nah, got my own mantra and it serves me just fine thanks.
Cebu Local
07-29-02, 23:27
guys
regarding guys parading their upcountry girls from issan,what is even more amusing is to remember some actually MARRIED them,regards
JuiceSpike
07-30-02, 00:04
what's the big fucking deal if a guy holds the hooker's hand on the way to the room?? some of you guys sound as if you are superior to the Issan girls yet you pay to fuck them.... hmmm.... no difference if you pay a lot or little to get laid, as far as I'm concern you and the hooker are equal at that point.... i don't hold hands with them not because of embarrazment but because I walk behind them so I can watch their ass.... hehehe....
Bangkok its Ok town and although a little dirty but I don't mind.... if you come from the suburbs in the US for sure you will be in for a surprise but hey, Bangkok it's a 6 million people and as with all big cities it gets a little dirty... so what?!
hard to generalize about all the girls working in Thailand... I have met many and from all walks of life and not all are stupid and/or out just for the money..... again, some of you guys are quite critical of them yet you pay them to fuck them... hmmm... if some of you are so fucking goodlooking, smart, and well to do, why are you even fucking the upcountry girls???
i fuck them because they are fun to fuck.
Hi there,
I'm planning a trip to BKK next week for about 5 days. I'd like some advice on where to go and what to expect.
I'd like to get some threesome action going - is there a good NP where I can get this service with good quality girls? Roughly how much would this be?
For the most part though I'm pretty happy with a good HJ or BJ. Any advice where I can go for a few beers and get a great BJ or HJ?
Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by Golden
Hi there,
I'm planning a trip to BKK next week for about 5 days. I'd like some advice on where to go and what to expect.
I'd like to get some threesome action going - is there a good NP where I can get this service with good quality girls? Roughly how much would this be?
For the most part though I'm pretty happy with a good HJ or BJ. Any advice where I can go for a few beers and get a great BJ or HJ?
Thanks in advance.
Anywhere Anytime
Just go through the following pages reading 398 post (highest in asia) of BKK in this forum & you will feel that you know the entire Bangkok. I think no need to repeat the entire forum post.
Golden - Agree with Ting Tong. You will know BKK just by going through all posts.
Ting Tong - BKK is not the highest in Asia as KL has about over 550 posts.
Originally posted by play3er
Ting Tong - BKK is not the highest in Asia as KL has about over 550 posts.
You are right for statstics but BKK has 3 topics - BKK, BKK Hotels & most of the post with Thai Ladies is BKK fans.
Let the statstics kept aside, BKK is number 1 in asia (may be in world as manu europian claim) for pussy hunters.
Originally posted by JP2U
I havent been to Thailand for a while but the thing I really enjoyed were the good massage parlours. Anyone been to Mona Lisa on Petchburi?.. supposed to be the biggest.
I have been there twice. The fist i took a "regular" and she even gave me full service for free after the soapie.
The next time I took full service because there was a nice ass sitting there. Her massage was not as good as the first time, but fucking her was great - small tight entry X 3.
Good value though a little old place.
Ting Tong - hahahaha ... You are right on cue when you mentioned that BKK has many fans, I'm one of them too! :D
By the way, I tried out a call-in service (saw advert from Bangkok Press) when I was there a couple of weeks ago and called at around midnight (due to the time and wanted the privacy of my room. Got an advertising student (21) with a 7/10 body and 7/10 look.
Asked for the super oil massage and got a very 'oily' rub down (used up all the baby oil from her bottle, hehehe). Had much fun as she was massaging me in the nude as well and we certainly had some fun (with no intercourse involved as didn't feel like it due to too much drinking from a company dinner earlier on).
By the time we were done, it was more than the 2 hours specified. So, hit the showers and got cleaned up by her. After showering, asked her whether she would like to stay the night as she looked sleepy too (it was about slightly over 3am). She agreed, so she stayed for the night but commented that she needs to be up by 8am (fine by me as I need to go to work too!)
Woken up by the alarm (+ morning call by the reception too!), so woke her up and got a quick BJ (as a token of thanks, I guess!). Placed the massage fees + tips (THB1000 + THB 200) in her handbag and she was off before giving me her mobile #. May be I'll call her again but like many of the guys here mentioned that we should not go for the same girl twice to avoid any inconvenience ... but one thing's for sure, no matter how stressed work may be when one is in BKK, it will be replaced by a smile the next morning :D
juicespike - these girls can be from anywhere and i wont parade them around like some trophy because they dress and act like prostitutes. it's usually easy to spot low class hos even if they're shopping at the emporium. flaunting them is beyond pathetic.
i stick to my belief and treat them like business transaction. i try not to wax philosophy or psychoanalyse them cuz i almost never get to the point where they can trick me or embezzle money from me (it happened twice during my initiation into the scene many moons ago but just a lesson learn, nothing to be bitter about)
i think adlez's point is, you go about your business but for crying out loud, dont act like you just landed the best catch in asia because it just screams tacky. most of us on this board have had better and we don't friggin jump to the nearest photosticker booth.
adlez - i do wonder the same thing about the iq and eyesite thing. i think they're looking for something 'exotic' though their definition of 'exotic' are usually...well, your 'nasty' is quite accurate. i'll add 'fugly' to it.
sukumvit 33, the "we're fresher" is just plain hilarious. i'm gonna go there today to eat (nice restaurants in that soi btw) and maybe stop by to get that neat one-liner. good comedy.
korat, been meaning to make my way there. my friend's been perstering me to visit so he can show me why he's the godfather of korat haha. there are definitely some gems there., and i trust his taste..for a much better price. hell, three days of debauchery will definitely subsidize for my airfare.
have fun in korat.
In defense of Soi 33, it's a different scene... and one of the good things about The Big Banger is the diversity. I'll probably get hammered for posting this, but I've been an irregular patron there for 15 years, and when you're in the mood it's great. I would not go there for shows (aren't any) or for a cheap bar fine/take out (ditto). I wouldn't go there to slum for cheap drinks.... prices are 80b/beer and up. And I wouldn't go there a lot for anything.... but the bars are clean, many of the ladies speak adequate English, it is an excellent "no surprises" place to take visiting businessmen who need to get their feet wet slowly, a couple of the places serve decent simple food.... and there are plenty of very pleasant-to-look-at ladies on that strip.
Would I barfine one and then give her >1,500 or more to shag...? No. It just isn't a hunting ground. But for a couple/three beers with an excellent view... and striking distance to several restaurants as the evening goes on..... yeah, it works. Like a lot of things, it's a matter of expectations... it is not the right fit for everyone, but what is? And note that if you go before 6pm, most of the joints have happy hour discounts on beer so you get by a little easier.
But "we're fresher" ??? Give me a break.
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JuiceSpike
08-01-02, 00:10
thaidude....
yeah unfortunately there some ediots that they think they have to parade a hooker as if they just "catched" a prize winning woman...i feel for them.... my point was that it is okay to hold a hooker's hand to get to the hotel room, anything beyond that it's humorous if not pathetic.... not all hookers are out to still from you, i have met "good" ones, had a good time and all was well.... sometimes though i think it is ironic that we view them as not our equal and we get in bed with them to fuck them.... i never have a long time deal because this gets a little too intimate waking up with someone you really don't want anything to do with beyond fucking her...
If I'm going to dinner or a movie while I'm in BKK I'd generally rather do it with a BG than go alone. I don't think that is "Parading around my hired hole". Sanuk in Thailand is all about living your fantasy if some guys fantasy is that he has a hot young girl friend whats the harm. I really do think you guys are a little too intolerant of what other people consider fun.
Amen, BassGod. I'd go further and say big deal if Z or others are horrified or distressed by what they see -- their horror has nothing to do with who is walking around with whomever, it has to do with them. Not everyone subscribes to the FFF proscription, nor need they. Apparently, the whole scene is only acceptable to Z and others if it's a dirty little secret. If you're going to treat BGs as pariahs then you ought to question your own motivations for being with them at all. There's tacky, sure, but there's also judgemental, intolerant and holier-than-thou.
In any event, this thread of conversation belongs in the "Advice" area as opposed to here or Pattaya, since it's opinion as opposed to information.
I agree with Bassgod. wHATS THE DIFFERENCE WHAT YOU DO WITH a bg AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN. Thats the reason to take a vacation, or live in LOS.
Thank God Z is back.... his posts are always so constructive and infomative.
Luke Skywalker
08-02-02, 07:01
Info for some......not new news for others.......
I have just returned to Bangkok after a 5 month absence, and I venture to the NANA disco for some bar fine free poon, and the guy stops me at the door and sais 160 baht! I was like what? Are you renting chairs for the night? When did this start?
I have not ventured to the grace hotel yet (rarely do) and I am just hoping that the Thermae is still free...and to make matters worse a large breasted NANA ho told me 2000 baht for short-time ....she wouldn't budge from that price either........has something happened since Feb that I should know about? Have all the ho's seen star wars and are trying out a Jedi mind trick on us guys.......well it aint working with me and anyone who reads this hopefully it aint gonna work on you....2000 baht equals at least 4 ho's, big tits or not!!!
and just to add to the "ho hand holding debate". I have not contributed at all really to this page and am strictly a Bangkok, and rarely, Pattaya man. I have been here 15~20 times or so, and have seen a million guys showboating their new girlfriend (and even smiled at a few who I saddled previously as they walked rose in one hand, man in the other into the NANA hotel). I say let them dream their little dream, if they wanna be king for a day with their brand spanking new (well old really) ho, let the baby have its bottle....it doesn't effect me, and it seems to be a sense of entertainment for others on this page.....each of us has their own Thailand.......don't we?
Even this belongs to Pattaya, the conclusions of yesterday night are more related to debate going on here in bangkok forum. Here it is....
After 2 spoiled long time pick with fresh girls taken in last week (Pattaya readers knows it) decide to pick a girl who is not very attractive but great on attitude. Further priority changed to enjoy the night instead of sex. Selected a girl from "Super Girl" who was dancing freely there & asked her if she like to drink & dance in disco. The enthustic yes & we moved to Elvis Pub for initiate the night with some light drinks (it may be funny a parade for some friends) as Xyte opens 11:30. At 12:00 we reached to Xyte & buy a bottle of Shivas inplace of buying tickets. The whisskey & the girl & 3 hours drink & dance, guys you don't believe it was better then fuck*ing a ho for three hours. I enjoyed the night than the two previous night even when we reached hotel back at 4:00, so tired that went to bed & slept without sex. But the morning today is so fresh & sweet, there is no feeling that I did not had sex with the girl I paid for long time.
So its way of life how different people, different time & different ways enjoy it. This may be funny, comic or stupid for some people. Yaah some time I also get surprised when I see some farang (young not the fat one) with some ugly girl. Some time I think may be he is with his maid & going to buy some material for home. May be they have got thier experience which I also got in last one week in Pattaya. The fresher one are tighter but no enthuism makes the play dull.
For some people sex is the only thing in the life to enjoy, some enjoy talking with girls, some like dancing & some likes just comapny with the girls. I believe Thailand is the only country where gilrs are available for all the above purpose. I saw in Xyte yesterday all above kind of farangs, some sitting with girls on thier lap, where others are just talking, some are dancing (like me) & many are just sitting with them.
So my conclusion is that everybody has gained some experience, may be have some compromise & may be something else. Just don't think they are stupid. May be you have more maney to spend at Barons or Eden. May be they can not afford this luxury like AdelZ to go to soapies always. It does not mean they don't have right to fuck.
I hope I added the point to debate.
Regarding door fine - my experience is that when they do not want you to enter the club they say entry ticket is there. Infact there is not ticket. I went to a club in Pattaya where at the door he asked me 400 Baht as entry fees. Next time same bar did not asked anything. The only difference was this time I was in a jeans with shoes instead of last time in half pant & sleeprs. May be they thought I am a cheap charlie.
So money makes matter here in Thailand, everybody know it.
Originally posted by adleZ
that I wouldnt f.u.ck with some mangy dog's dick living on the streets of Bangkok! Damn some nasty shit some of you are selecting.
I had a friend in college who had habit to try with every girl he see. Some time very ugly (face) girl also he will comment "Hi cutie". I told him same words that this girl I would not fuck with some dog's dick. His reply was
"Hey just cover the face and fuck the base"
Don't you have a cover Mr. Z_E_L_D_A
lol
Sorry, Z, haven't actually used a dictionary in years. It's called vocabulary. And, unlike you, I've not been gone from the forum at all -- I just try to post something other than the same thing over and over.
I'm curious -- Luke's is the second recent report about firm 2000 baht pricing in Bangkok (skinless reported the same thing, and he's in LOS right now.) Is this something that's starting to be demanded in widely in BKK, or is it only found in a couple of places by well-endowed TGs?
JuiceSpike
08-02-02, 17:55
joe....
I recently returned from BKK and always paid no more than a 1000 baht for short time, either go-go or freelance girl.... there was one cute 19 year old at a go-go bar that wanted 1,500 but I said no and walked.... after no one taking her (I don't know why she was nice looking) she came over to me and said "ok, 1,000" but I had already made a deal with another girl who was changing clothes....
Good to hear -- sounds like I can keep my budgeting plans the same for the fall :)
Juicespike is absolutely right. More than 1,000 is crazy. Of course some will push for more because some fools go for it. When a girl realizes she will not make any money because of her inflated demand then she will come back to reality.
JuiceSpike
08-02-02, 23:44
yep, 1,000 and no more irregardless of what the girl looks like.... some of the more nice looking girls want more (makes sense) but stick to your guns and don't give in no matter how horny you might be.... there is always another pretty girl waiting.... the same goes for taking 2 girls, I did this a bit too much of this (it got expensive with the bar fine for 2 at go-go bars) but a couple of times the girls would agree to go in pairs but if I paid more.... I did not give in and off we went anyway.... I kept a simple rule when taking two girls: they could only speak English around me and that turned out to be a smart move because made things a lot more interesting (in bed) and they could not plan their little games with me....
also, if you get to know a go-go bar sometimes they will reduce a little the bar fine if you are taking 2 girls but it will take some sweet talking and buying a 60 baht cola for the mamasan...
Nana go-go bars with some nice looking girls:
Angel Witch (the best looking one resigned in July to get married to a farang)
Rainbow 1 (I think) maybe 2 or 3 worth the bar fine
Play Skool (2 good ones in here plus a server that turned out to be great)
Voodoo (1 brand new one that was snatched by a Britt because he wanted to married her after 2 nights with her... makes total fucking sense, right....)
Girls come and go at the go-go bars and if you are lucky and ask around a little you can get brand new girls and some of them are amazing (they fuck like bunnies) and some need coaching which can be fun....
Grace hotel coffee shop can offer some university students late at night looking for a little extra cash, they are the exception but you find them there ussually in a group of 3 or 5 girls... met a cute one who said she always got 3,000 because she was pretty (she was and very good English) but I said I only pay 1,000 for short time.... after a little attitude session she agreed on a 1,000 (I was starding to make the move on one of her friends)... she was actually well worht it and after fucking she told me she had a rich boyfriend from America that had no clue of what she was doing when she needed a little extra cash... he actually sends her money... anyway, she told me that she would stay in her apartment until 1 or 2 AM and go do her thing after her boyfriend called her to see if she was home being a good little girl..... you gotta love them...
1,000 it's good pay for spreading open.... don't pay more....
Get this. I actually had a girl explain to me that Americans should pay more because of the ratio of baht to dollar. I told her we don't give Thais a discount in American so I don't expect to pay more in Thailand. The shit they come up with is amazing.
For a guy that wants to make a maiden voyage to Thailand, this is all good advice.....1000 bhat...I will keep that in my mind. Would anyone here recommend Pattaya or Bangkok for a 1st timer?
On The Road
08-03-02, 12:53
Don't ask Z.elda! LOL
November -- they're close enough that it's no trouble to do both and decide for yourself which you like best, even if you're only around for a short time. There's more things besides sanuking to do in Bangkok, as it's a big city, and Pattaya's somewhat cheaper.
electricity does cost more per watt in the summertime
tapioca
1000 B /LT and 500 B /ST is the right rate.
Any chick asking for more and unwilling to negotiate fails automatically the test and I just move on to the next pussy, which is usually a few centimeters away. It doesn't take long to find a chick within the right budget.
There're literally thousands of chicks heading to BKK and Pattaya every week to get in business, that is, the supply greatly outweigh the demand: the market is to our advantage.
JuiceSpike
08-04-02, 01:18
...I'm no expert of the Thaipussyland but 500B for short time?? I wonder about the quality you are getting for that much...
Anyway, how about the traffic in Bangkok?
I agree. 100BHT LT 500-800BHT LT for freelancer. If you guys start paying more the price will go up. just because we have more money, doesnt mean you have to spend it.
AdleZ, that's funny but so true. NOVEMBER, Pattaya is cool for a first timer. Things should cost half what it costs you in Bangkok (including hotels). If you go to an indoor go go bar then the prices will be about the same. Warning fellas. I just left there last week and the fucking Katoeys are hanging out in the dark area along the shore side of beach road. I have seen then between Sois 9-10 and 3-5. The street lights are out that way and they are crawling out of the walls like Dawn of the Dead. Watch it cause the fuckers tried to surround me and pick my pockets. A good right hook keeps them back. Nothing worse than a dude in a dress.
Attention Newbies:
Please have the good sense to disregard adleZ's postings. He propagates a disrespectful attitude toward Thai hookers that can only be justified by his twisted psychology. He is only a good example of a bad influence.
Go to www.stickmanbangkok.com for balanced and in-depth perspectives on relationships with Thai hookers.
Wsg2000
P.S. Ponder what a zero adleZ would be if he couldn't get a hard-on.
JuiceSpike
08-04-02, 18:54
WSG2000...
You criticize Adlez and even though sometimes he is a bit off the wall (but always entertaining) he is at least honest and recently more balanced in his postings....
I think in real life Adlez is treating the hookers well and uses this board to express himself...
Your comment about Adlez spreading disrespectfull attitudes about Thai hookers doesn't hold weight and here is why:
Everyday in the US thouthands of guys treat regular women like shit, they probably would treat a hooker better. American males (included myself) have a reputation for being called "assholes" by women and no wonder American women are so defensive these days.... I think Adlez is just giving us his straightforward views about his encounters and he is entitled to have a low opinion of hookers although he seems to spend a lot of time with them...
When it comes down to being with a hooker, I think most guys treat them good, maybe even better than their regular girlfriends because there are no games to get pussy: you pay and you fuck. Simple and uncomplicated.
Freeler/Juicespike,
Hear Hear! Or is that "here here".....LOL. Current tally: 3 votes for adleZ(Freeler,Juicespike,me), 0 for WSG2000.
I disagree all the time with Z, but this is a discussion forum, and the nature of that is that it can accomodate different perspectives, approaches and personalities, and people can like or dislike whatever and whomever they please. Anyone who reads this forum at all knows where Z is coming from, what his signal to noise ratio is, and can decide how they want to take him.
There's been a very nice percentage of good information coming through lately -- let's not derail that with a discussion of who ought or ought not be here or listened to. Z is one poster among many, and it's the many, Z included, that provides the needed wide-ranging blend.
Guys,
It's pretty pathetic to see where this topic is going. I find it much more entertaining to here others' experiences in Bangkok and perhaps find something new and interesting.
Frankly, I could give a s**t what some idiot thinks of what I do with the ladies I book (e.g., walking around the Emporium holding hands) and I have absolutely no interest what you guys do with your companions. We are all here to have fun on our own terms, and provided we all behave and no one gets hurt, it's all in the spirit of fun. If you are hung up on how people are looking at you here in Bangkok you are a real loser.
So, I'd love to hear some more from guys like Joe_Z on the latest happenings.
Although I have not posted here often, I have been reading
the posts for a good while now. This is a very active message
board. I have typically gone to Amsterdam and that board can go days without a post.
I think that Z tells it like it is. He is not "politically correct" but he
essentially has an opinion that does not waver. I think that his
primary interest is to keep the sex trade in Thailand as pure as
possible. That includes paying what is fair and not overpaying
because ultimately, thats going to fuck up the price system.
adelz, i will add more if u guys post in the right section
holding hands with tg's belongs in the other section
tapioca
Can anyone advise what my likely response would be from the girls in Thailand to a request to be joined by two (or more) girls at the same time.
IE: Are they quite willing to play with eachother aswell as you, for long time?
I know this might be a naive question, but seeing that I have noticed that the girls tend to treat you as "boyfriend" once you have payed their barfine, I thought that this might be something they might object to! Or is it all just a question of money??
The_one
One,
I think you would find most "professional" girls would be completely open to the idea. Some may not want to partake, but many will gladly. In the soapies, two gals is a common request and is on the menu so to speak. Likewise, in the gogo's, there are a lot of blokes that ask for this service.
If you want a really good experience, it's important that the girls really like the threesome idea. Many girls will do it, but they may not be enthusiastic. I've found the best way is to find a girl in a gogo bar that seems keen, then ask her to find a friend. Assuming you agree on the third partner, you are set. The mamasan may also help out, but you need to make sure she is trustworty. Maybe some of the guys on this site can suggest.
Finally, if you want a threesome and some additional action with toys, I suggest Eden. They have turned the two-girl experience into a formula with toys, movies and the works. The prices are set and the girls are definitely comfortable with the routine. When I was there, I had a great time and girls were really into eachother as well as me.
Hope this helps.
Originally posted by juicespike
American males (included myself) have a reputation for being called "assholes" by women
If you follow what Zel_da says then here, also, in LOS you will be called Assholes. The girl friendly treatment to the girls makes the sex scene in Thailand different than most of the world. If you like just fuck_ing then go to a brothel & fu_ck. What you get there is a fuck_ing treatment. diss diss diss ..... ..... set lao
Originally posted by adleZ
Thais are not good business people. What if the price for entrance into the GRand Canyon National PArk was $20 for Americans and $200 for everybody else! I explained this to a Thai ho and of course she said it would be unfair. But, she believed it was ok to raise the price for foreigners in Thailand. Once again, the mentality of these girls is beyond reasoning.
Z.elda
We have learn this from Americans. Fuck the world whereever you can. The same items "made by american multinationals' are sold in different countires at different cost. They call it social justice. The rate of duties in America is diffrent for many items from diffrent countries. They call it most favoured countries. Its like income tax, more for the people who can pay more to maintain the parks otherwise with 20 baht you can not maintain it & it will become a shit hole.
Is the manufacturing cost of Viagra is USD 10 per 100 gms tablet. Its available in India with the name of Silagra (made by Cipla - a very reputed company in India) at a cost of Rs. 26 (60 cents) because there is no patent rules in India & anybody can copy this.
World is getting lessons from USA then we shall not feel it bad when we have to pay more.
Hi everyone!
Is there any action down at Kho san road??? I only been there daytime and I did´t see any thaigirls anywhere only backpackers. Many cheep hotels so I think it be nice if there are.
I use to stay in the Nana area but I think it´s to expensive for me this time. It´s my fourth trip this year and I don´t have so much money to spend.
I´m staying in Pattaya for two weeks but I have to stay in Bkk for a couple of night also.
Freeler,
Thanks for your tips but I don´t think it´s much cheeper in the north or anywhere else in LOS. 500 bath for a beautiful girl and 350 bath for a AC room is OK by me =). It´s so easy to go there from the airport and it has the best day/nightlife in the world????
I wanna go north some time but this time i´m going to meet some friends in Pattaya so I have no choice but to go there.
I usally stay at Sukhumvit Crown hotel in Nana for 600 bath. Anyone knows any other good clean cheep hotel in the Nana area?
Thanks for all info I can get!
Originally posted by khun
We have learn this from Americans. Fuck the world whereever you can. The same items "made by american multinationals' are sold in different countires at different cost. They call it social justice. The rate of duties in America is diffrent for many items from diffrent countries. They call it most favoured countries....
Do you really believe the Americans invented this system? Adam Smith the author of "Wealth of Nations," in 1776 was the first to observe how this system could be put to use. Adam Smith, a European, wrote his stuff before the USA even existed in the 18th century. Furthermore, the USA has LOWER tariffs than just about every nation in the world including Thailand. Why don't you check the import duty on an imported car in Thailand. The reason for tariffs is not some kind of "social justice." It's to protect domestic industry. The highest tariffs and import quotas are reserved for items that compete directly with domestically produced items. Before you go blasting off about this and that, it would be better if you were a little more educated about the subject.
Will steeltariffs affect our hardons ? No ! Get this economic nonsense out of here !
Originally posted by moody
Before you go blasting off about this and that, it would be better if you were a little more educated about the subject.
What I have quoted was a reaction to statment that Thais are not good businessman & validity of dual entry fee system in Thailand at public places.
This is not a forum to discuss the economic issues & who has invented what? Just you shall try to understand why more than half of the world don't like USA.
No further discussion on this subject. Thanks
To the subject
Do anybody have experince at soapy with 2 girls & what they call it sandwitch massage? Is it nice or shall select only one girl?
Hello, Everyone. I am planning to go to LOS for my second time this year in mid September (first time there was in Feb). I had a great time there, thanks to the info on this forum. What I was wondering is that since it is the middle of the rainy season, is the action the same as in Feb, or does it rain too much. I have heard conflicting reports about the amount of rain. I don't want to have to swim across Sukhumvit Rd. :) Thanks for the info.
PS: Looks like Skinless is having one heck of a time! I can't even dream about having the amount of action he is having. Keep that score up, dude!!!
Originally posted by Phuquer
I have heard conflicting reports about the amount of rain. I don't want to have to swim across Sukhumvit Rd. :) Thanks for the info.
There are no rains practically this year till now. Yes in the rains, there is too much of rain in Bangkok & Pattaya but you don't need to swim. Sewer system is enough to take care of water. It may be accumulated in some areas for some time (little time). The scene is always same - may be off season or high season.
Enjoooooy !!!!!!!
Luke Skywalker
08-11-02, 09:50
Originally posted by the_one
Can anyone advise what my likely response would be from the girls in Thailand to a request to be joined by two (or more) girls at the same time.
IE: Are they quite willing to play with eachother aswell as you, for long time?
I know this might be a naive question, but seeing that I have noticed that the girls tend to treat you as "boyfriend" once you have payed their barfine, I thought that this might be something they might object to! Or is it all just a question of money??
The_one
A place called the eden in Bangkok Sukhumvit rd, maybe soi 9...??? (anyone else know exactley where?)anyway on the left hand side heading away from the nana hotel towards Soi Cowboy. The street before the pasta and noodles restaurant. (u cant miss this restaurant). Head down the street which has mainly tailors and its about 40meters or so down on the right.
This place has bi-women who will lez it up for you. Pricey though. 3200 baht for 2 chicks before 8pm. 3800 after. They do anal and have toys (I've heard.....)It also has a money back guarantee but havent tested to see if its true...(they take credit cards too) ...I've heard no-one has ever complained though. I went there and the women were fairly ordinary....hope this helps you.
Went to Baron's for an oil massage before I went home. It is great, as ususal. I might not ever do a soapie again. Oil massage is so much better.
This time, I used the front entrance, that is on Sukhumvit. There is apparently a barber shop inside, so that you can get your hair cut and a manucure on the spot. On my way to the cash desk at the back, I went through the waiting area. There were seven girls chatting on sofas, and two local guys sitting on couches on the other side of the aisle. I guess they waited for their favorite girl to become available again.
I asked the oil massage, two hours, and was ushered to a nice room on the second floor. The bed was larger than on my first visit, and there was a shower inside the room. I ordered a drink from the mamasan, and she left me waiting for my masseuse.
The girl arrived promptly, and after shower we went down to business. She was reasonably good looking, no stunner, but nice. Shehad a large area on her shoulder that must have been a tatoo once, that was erased recently.
I lied on the bed, face down. She gave me a very relaxing massage first. It was so soothing that I nearly fell asleep (and it was 5 PM, no time to have a nap). I woke up when she poured oil from a new bottle on my back.
She then proceeded to the sensual part, with a lot of ball tickling etc. I could feel the tip or her nipple goind up and down my spine. Heavenly really. I turned to lie on my back and she gave me more of the same, but face up.
Contrary to my previous experience, this girl kept the licking part at a minimum, and put a condom on before giving me a blowjob. I had brought my own assortment of condoms since the house pronly small size items (it is mainly an Asian-oriented place). I did not realise that she picked a N-11 one until she discovered that the powerful spermicide really tastes bad. Those are not meant for blowjobs ! Anyhow, it was her loss for not giving me the BBBJ I was expecting.
The sex was good and unhurried, if uninspired. Afterwards I showered and then she gave me another 15 minutes of soothing massage.
I paid her the 1500 for the special. We went down to the cash desk, where I paid the 800 for the 2-hour massage and 20 for the soft drink. I was surprised that they got me to pay after the deed and not before.
The girl walked me back to the door on Sukhumvit and waaied me goodbye.
Overall a very good session, even if this one masseuse was not quite as fun and enjoyable as the one I had a few weeks before (see previous post). She was good and professional, smiling and polite, but not up to the level of the other one.
Bottom line: Baron's is a great place, and a perfectly run operation. They will give you excellent value for money, even if each girl is different. Your mileage may vary, but only from excellent to fabulous.
Very much recommended.
Packripper
08-13-02, 19:44
regarding sandwiches...
best to have the girl you pick select a girl that she knows. it's much better that way. I wouldn't say threesomes are the end all of fantasies, but it's good to throw in 3-4 a year for good measure. I still really prefer just one girl myself.
OR... you can have the cheer guest at your favorite soapy arrange a sandwich for you (they know which girls fit together)... best to plan one for the NEXT day as if you just show up for a sandwich... (and you're not a regular with the cheer guest), you'll end up with an impromptu sandwich (where the girls don't really click with each other).
Imagine if you were a massage parlour worker and a lady customer walks in and says "threesome!" and the cheer guest teams you up with some other worker you've never met. hehe.
;)
Pack
Freeler,
I have always been a good boy!
As I said before, condoms are a necessary evil in that hobby of ours. Then why not try to get the best out of it?
N-11 seems to be a local name for that Durex product. I did not know of it before I read about it on this board, but since it was recommended by fellow hobbyists, I gave it a try (and so did that lady at Baron's, who learnt a valuable lesson).
Honestly, to me, what condom I use does not make all that much difference, feelingwise, as long as it is large enough. Still Viagra is probably a must to secure an erection despite the condom.
Marco Pole
09-11-02, 16:41
Good to see this place operational again!
Anyone got any updates on the recent BKK scene? I leave exactly one month from tomorrow for my first trip.
ManonsanBoy
09-11-02, 16:49
Hi everyone
I only have 3 nights and am staying JW Marriott. Need some advice on where to go. So far, Eden club, Darling massage and CP 2 are on my agenda. During the day, I am golfing. Mid Sept, I will be there.
Hi,
going to BKK next week. Looking forward to it!!!!!!!!!!!
Any news about nice Russian Girls there?
Before always CM2, massage or on the steet. Nothing in the gogos to check the body first, or did anybody see some?
Happy Hunting!
Mike
Can't understand these guys looking for Russian girls?? If you want a Russian go to any hotel in Dubai or Bahrain........or maybe even Russia!
yeah Bottler,
you are right, but maybe I am conservative:
After a few day of TG I just like some Farang for a change.
... cannot bring a girlfriend?!?!
.. any recommendations for easterns?
See ya,
Mike
Prices of drinks have increased a lot these past few months !
I SUGGEST WE ALL BOYCOTT THE PLACES IN NANA PLAZA WHERE DRINKS ARE 100 B OR OVER !!!!
I know that leaves about 20 per cent of the places acceptable, but we must unite and fight against those greedy bosses. Agree ?
Packripper
09-12-02, 00:44
lalake,
CP2 = Chao Phraya 2 (soapy).
the creatively named sister of Chao Phraya 1.
For anyone who cares, CP2 is the more western tourist oriented place and the CP1 is the more local/Asian oriented place. But both groups are welcome to patronize both establishments.
khun,
I've used them stateside, but not here. My opinion is that they are a mood killer because they don't look natural. With a condom, you still have full visual..... when she's wearing the thing, it's like she's been attacked by something from the Blob. But that's just me. Feeling wise, still nothing like going skinless... perhaps a little more sensitivity. But not mind blowing. Why do you think the product hasn't "exploded" worldwide? Do your own research, it's more fun that way. And you can expect the girl to say... "um... how do I put this on?"
;)
howdy all! hope all is well.
your friendly neighborhood sex tourist...err...sex local,
-Pack
Hey Everybody
I heard there are something called "Female Condoms" are available in market which has to be inserted in Female & You don't need to wear a rubber. It is claimed that does not spoils the joy as Male condom does.
Anybody with experience on this, may throw light on this please ?
manonsanboy
since you are at the JW M., Nana plaza is right out the back.(around the corner that is). It is a little seedy, but recommend the show at Hollywood on the 3rd floor, and go to G-Spot in the back. It is worth a cheap beer. As for CP2, don't know what you mean. Do you mean CM2? Which is a great disco in the Novotel on Siam Square, highly recommended to meet girls and take home (for a price). The JW M. is totally a great location.Stayed there more than 6 times. Tell me how the golfing in bangkok is, I usually travel to Hua Hin for golf. cheers.
I'll be in Bangkok in just under two weeks.
What's the situation with the 2am curfew? Is it still being vigorously enforced?
about the hotels at sukhumvit. I stayed at JW, great place, they even welcome the girls with you!! But would like to go for some more budget kind of thing. What do you think brothers, Manhatten or Nana Hotel?? Heard Manhatten is nice, but looks quite far to the action.
Any recommendation??
... 1 week to go to girls heaven
michi,
Nana is a lousy place, and as such it is overpriced. Manhattan is one cut above that, and not so far from NEP, or soi 10, etc.
Still it is not so nice either. You might be able to get a much better hotel for not much more money. Shop around on the net.
hey Seydlitz,
any experience with any hotel around there?
hope for a hint!
on the net is a lot, but the do not exactly talk about being TG friendly?!
Marco Pole
09-13-02, 00:37
Hey Michi,
I'm heading out to BKK next month, and upon advice from some other seasoned travelers, I booked a room at the Royal Asia Lodge located on Soi 8 (just off Sukhumvit) just around the corner from Nana Plaza. Standard rooms are about $20, and from the info/pictures on the website, it appears that they accept guests, have in-room massage, and a rooftop pool. Check out the site if you're interested:
http://www.royalasia.co.th/
MP
If you want a heads up on both location and girl-friendliness, I suggest you check out the maps available at http://*************************sanukmaps/ which show all that in excellent detail.
HarlequinShrimp
09-13-02, 02:18
Originally posted by michi
about the hotels at sukhumvit. I stayed at JW, great place, they even welcome the girls with you!! But would like to go for some more budget kind of thing. What do you think brothers, Manhatten or Nana Hotel?? Heard Manhatten is nice, but looks quite far to the action.
Any recommendation??
... 1 week to go to girls heaven
try the Majestic. www.majesticsuites.com
it is very nice, clean and 30 yeards for soi Nana.
On The Road
09-13-02, 17:47
Hi to everyone, this is my Bangkok & Pattaya report, second half of August 2002.
First of all, excuse me again for my bad english, but I hope this helps.
We was two italian guys goin' sanuking in the L.O.S., so I can write something 'bout my friend experience, too.
We arrived at the Majestic Suites hotel at lunch time. In the first afternoon I went to the famous T barber shop on Soi Nana, asking for a 2h oil massage. Lily started to massage me, I had my underwear on, but after some minutes, Lily asked me to put them off. Then asked me if I would like a "special Massage", and gave me an hand job (with some kisses, but not a real blow job). I tipped her 500b, and she seemed to be very happy. My friend went there after me, same experience but without any kiss on his dick.
On the evening we went to NEP. Went to Angel Witch, not so bad and girl not pushy at all, Rowhide I and II (good prices for soft drinks), and playskool (not so good looking girls, but very good music). For me, no BarFine on my first evening, my friend barfined a girl for the Playskool, 600b Bar Fine and 1500 Short Time. He reported me a great experience, maybe the best of all our holiday.
Next day we went to Soi Cowboy. Went to the Long Gun (definitly the best go go bar in Bangkok, IMHO), great nude show and most of the girl very busty. I barfined Ko, and my friend another girl, 400b Bar Fine e 1500b Long Time. Great experience.
Next eveving we went to Patpong, but no gogo... The back to Nana. Bad experience at Angel Witch where my friend triend to Barfine one very beautiful girl, she asked him 500b Bar Fine and 1500b Short Time, but only one come! He tried to manage something different, but no way.
Later we went to the Rainbow II. Same experience, my friend asked a girl: 500b Bar Fine, 1500b ST one come, 2000b ST two come. Due it was 1.55am, my friend tried to manage a meeting outside after 2.00am without BarFine givin' her 2000b, but she answered no. Later I had a freelancer, Jang from in fron of the nana hotel, for 1200b ST. It was a very good experience, and going' against any z.elda advice, I'll had her two times more, as you'll see.
On the day after, in the afternoon, we went to the ChaoPhya2 Bath and massage. Three sections, on the left side body body massage girl, 1700b; on the center superstars girl, very young and beautiful 1700b but no massage just bath and sex, on the right side traditional massage girl, 1500b and just an hand job. My friend had a girl from the left side that was smiling to him, and he had a great experience. My experience wasn't so good. I had a girl from the left side, in order to try the famous body body massage. Good bath, good massage, good sex, but after my first come, I think less than one hour after, my girl started to watch TV, and started to be dressed again. I expected a second shot, but I became very upset and I dressed myself and went away with no tip for my girl, even if she asked for it.
We had to chang our hotel, going to the Nana Hotel. Well, the Majestic Suites if definitly better! Even if the rooms are smaller, you can't compare the two hotels. Majestic was a very good one, Nana a crap one. No sanuking on the evening.
The day after, Went to Nana again. My friend barfined a waiter from the Fantasia gogo, 500b BF 1500b ST. He said me that it was the best blow job he ever had. I went to Jang again. She was great, with a very good massage too.
The day after we went to Pattaya. Went to the freelancer bar for a birthday evening (very funny), to the Tony Disco (a rip off, in my opinion), to the Carousel gogo (500b BF not 250b as said somewhere else), to the classroom 1 (good, but no stunners inside), to the Thaitian Queen 1 (girl great attitude, but a little bit pushy), and to the WorldWide a gogo, the gogobar that will be my second home, on the future. But that night, no Bar Fine.
On the night after, we went to the Frozen a gogo, lots of stunners inside but very bad and high trance music, and then to the World Wide a gogo, where I barfined my long term Pattaya "Girlfriend". 500b Bar Fine and 1500 Long Time. It was a great experience. No barfine again for my friend.
The day after, again in the WW a gogo for my girl, and the day after her for my third time. Z.elda won't agree, I think, but I was very good.
On the afternoon of the day after, we went to an Oil Massage in Soi Post Office, 500b for two hour foot and oil massage, and 300b tip for an HJ. On the evening again in the World Wide (former G-string) a gogo, for my regular for the fourth time.
Next day, in the afternoon, I went to the to the Susie massage parlour, h. 1.00 pm. Just few girl. I choose n. 155, that was smiling at me, 1500b all inclusive. I had a very good experience and gave her 500b tip.
On the evening, lunch time, I went on the WW again. My girl wasn't here (she went to eat). I went away, and later barfined a very very beautiful Beer Bar girl from Soi 8, 200b Bar Fine and 1000b Long Time. She said to me that she started to work in a Beer Bar just four days before and I was her first customer. I don't know if it was true (who cares?), but I had a very good experience.
Next day we went back to Bangkok, Majestic Suites. On the evening I was Jang again, for the third time. Great experience as usual.
On the evening after, we went to Soi Cowboy again. First of all we went to the Tilac. Very big gogo, very expensive and girl was pushy, but with a good attitude and most of them very beautiful. I declined one girl asking to barfined her, and when I answered no, she asked me to have a ST inside the Toy bar, in front. I declined again.
Than we went to the Rowhide. Great show (bottle open, shoot,ball, banana, etc...), very cheap and girls not pushy at all. Really great.
We went to Nana again. Went to the Angel Witch. I looked for a girl, with red shoes, a real stunner. I paid her a Lady Drink, she had a not so good attitude, but she was a real stunner. I asked her a short time, she answered me 500b BF and 2000b for her, no way to give her 1500b. I had no choice to answer yes or not (not, in that occasion) that she went to another customer. Went away. So bad, she was a real stunner.
Went to the Mandrin. Young Girl, but was real full and a little bit too expensive. Went away.
Went to the Morning and Night bar. That bar opened for the first time that day. Only ugly girls, IMHO. 500b Bar Fine, incredible for a Beer Bar. My friend decided to barfined a very ugly girl, but with a good body. 500b BF and 1200b Long Time, good in anal.
I went to look for Jang again, but I found two friends of her. She asked me for I threesome, and I answered Yes. 1000b + 100b tip each one. Really the best sexual experience in my life. Great.
On the day after, something that you should think is very stupid, I went to Pattaya for the day in order to look for my "girlfriend". I arrived at the World Wide at 2.00 pm. So bad, she wasn't working on that day! I talked with a friend of her, she called her and, after a while, she went to the bar. I had a short time with her on a room upstair the gogo bar, and barfined her for the evening. Gone to eat together, very good day and than we went bak to BKK for the night.
The day after, went to Soi Cowboy again. First of all we went to the Baccara. Girls were ok, not pushy.
Then we went to the Long Gun again. I had my Ko again, my friend changed her girl (a little butterflying ;) ). Again 400b BF and 1500b LT. Great experience again.
On the night after, went to the Playskool, ok, then to the Rainbow III, mamasan very pushy but good girls, then to the Hollywood 2, good bar porno video on the TV, then I had another freelancer from outside Nana plaza, 1000b ST, good experience again. My friend went back to the Long Gun and barfined the first day girl, another good experience.
The day before, our last day, waiting for the plane, I went to the T barber shop again, while my friend went to the Toy bar. He said to me that it wasn't a great experience, two girls but very pushy and he had only an HJ, not the expected BJ. He paid 3 Lady Drink each one and 200b tip e.o., just for an HJ!
Well, time to come back to Italy... so bad. Waiting to go in the L.O.S. asap!
Hope this helps.
IOTR
Michi,
about hotels being "girl-friendly":
in BKK, ALL hotels are girl-friendly, to some extent. The difference is as follows:
- many low-price hotels do not care at all about female guests
- most middle-price hotels want you to register your guests. This is for your safety.
- high-end hotels (The Oriental etc.) will look at you in disgust if you bring home a working girl before a certain time of the evening.
Nonetheless, if you booked a double room, there is little they can do against it. And do not believe that you can fool them for a split-second. To them any Farang with a TG is obviously a *****monger. And they are usually right.
Over the years, I stayed at many hotels in BKK, and I never had any trouble with security or front desk. The list of those includes the Manhattan and the Regency Park on Sukhumvit, Tawana Ramada and Tower Inn on Silom, and Palazzo on Ratchadapisek.
I was very happy with the Regency Park, which is on soi 22. At 1,300 a night, tax and bfst included, an excellent value, and close to Soi Cowboy and Baron's, not too far of Nana and the skytrain.
Hi,
thanks for the advice brothers.
Asking about it: I stayed in the Holiday inn in Phuket and there was BIG trouble to get a lady to the room. After 30 minutes only it worked but one stay- one girl. A mess!
... 5 day to go!!
.. anybody around there the weekend after next to go for some hunting?
Hello, I am a newbie to your board. Great board btw! I am a Chinese-Australian who is travelling to Bangkok in the next two months.
I want to know where the best spots for sex are in Bangkok (of course!!!!). Bearing in mind I do not know a thing about Bangkok so can you explain throughly please guys. Could you also give me some prices for services so I have a general idea.
Is it rude to ask a girl if she is a ladyboy. I've read from your previous posts that there are heaps of them over there, and some you cannot tell that they are ladyboys? Also for anyone who is familiar with the Singapore sarong party girls, is there a Bangkok equivalent?
I've also read about bar fines? Could you explain what this means. WHat can I expect to pay for a bar fine? What is an acceptable rate to take home a girl for the night? What is the protocol? Can you fuck her as many times as you like during the night? DO you have to pay for her cab fare home? Do you have to tip? Please help a tourist out guys! Thanks...
MSP
read ALL of this board and browse the appropriate sites on the web. Do your homework.
Then, and only then, if you have specific questions, feel free to ask.
Michi,
admittedly, it can happen that some hotel staff make a fuss about bringing a girl in.
Just remind them that you are a paying customer. Never be afraid of arguing with them. Thais usually do not like the embarassment of an argument.
Also, it helps to ask about it when you check in, or even when you book (through the airport hotel booking service, for example). Don't be shy; they have heard it all before, and they assume that you are a sex tourist anyway.
Just like to start a major moan about people
obviously paying to much for services in Thailand
and spoiling it for the rest of us. Nana plaza these days seems to be getting more like patpong
. I was quoted 5000 the other day for a girl in Angel witch. She seemed to get really p*ssed off when i said i payed never any more than 1000.
Now i'm not fat and bald (i'm only28) and speak a little thai
so this was not an unusual fee for this girl to ask or get. I just don't understand it. You can get a ***** in london for feck sakes for that type
of money. Not only is this sort of overpaying spoiling it for the rest of us but it is also spoiling the girls. it is turning many of them into greedy hard nosed *****s. Not too unlike
many western women in fact, . one of the joys of these type of countries was the fact that many of the girls were slim, sweet and uncorrupted even in the sex business unlikie their fat western counterparts . Come on guys sort it out. Before long there will be noi point in coming to thailand
apart form the weather and the food of course. Never pay more than 1000 NEVER. The worst offenders for this are the american navy in patong. I've heard they often spalsh out on 6000 baht on girls and thats before they buy them presents. paying this sort of money for one of these girls is utter sadness
in my opinion. thats not to mention the suckers
who send money every month to these *****s
and only come to thailand ONCE a YEAR.
It really makes me angry. this overpaying is spoiling an otherwise paradise. WHAT IS GOING ON GUYS?
JuiceSpike
09-14-02, 21:38
filthpig....
Nothing is going on, there is always going to be some greedy girls in Thailand..... your comment about the Angel Witch girl asking you for 5000bt means she did not want to go with you and so she asked you for an amount you would obviously decline....and you did.... I was at Angel Witch in July and the girls go for 1000 -1500 for short time....
As far as the girls in Thailand being sweet and all that is because that's part of their job.... they know that westerners like sweet girls and they know that if they are really sweet westerners will put out more cash for them.... don't buy into this, play along and pay accordingly.....but, you will always have that horny guy that is there for the first time and will pay anything because he is drooling ....
I heve been to BKK only 4 times, (3 this year) and girls think I work and live there because I don't play the tourist game anymore....
Oh, and girls in the biz are jaded and corrupted even though they disguise it very well behind that famous and beautiful smile....
cheers
Freeler,
Actually mate, i work abroad for 4 weeks and then
have 4 weeks off so i'm in thailand for a month every month. Don't get touchy i wasn't having a dig at anyone on this forum as i hope people here
know the score. it was just a general moan and i
wanted to see if other people here were getting annoyed by the oeverpaying as well. You're obviously getting hot under the collar beacause YOU send money. If you are visiting 3 times a year then its up to you. I just think its particuarly muggish of people who do only visit once in a blue moon. Again it was not a dig against anyone in particular so why are you getting so paranoid.
" I happen to have about THREE MONTHS off every year and if I want to travel to Thailand THREE TIMES a year, you are not going to stop me! "
Good for you why would i want to stop you. I have 6 months off a year but i don't try to show off about it!!
Juicespike. I agree its part of the game and a lot are corrupted but i still maintain that they are still on the whole less corrupted that the fat assed, up their own ass british slags these days.
I've just noted an increasing attitude problem with soem girls on my recent visits which is mainly due to thailands ever increasing popularity and kn*bheads overpaying. Obviously with the likes of Freeler around who gets a hotel, drink, food
and sanuk for 1000 baht a aday this shouldn't be a
problem in the future. B*llshit Freeler!
Filthpig -- if you read Freeler's posts, he makes quite clear how he pays what he pays, and where. One thing he doesn't do is hang out at Nana and similar places, where the prices are higher. (Or even that much in Bangkok, from what I gather.)
In any event, it's pointless to whack at each other. Sure there are TGs asking for more -- the Phuket section had a report about them pressing for 3000 baht -- but it's always going to be about what the market will bear. Not caving into high prices sends the message that what is asked was too much. If everyone read this forum and others like it, they'd have a better sense of what going rates are, but uninformed tourists overpay everywhere they go, and not only for sex. You're dead on right about that, but I'm not sure what a real solution is. As you note, it's kind of preaching to the choir here, but hopefully newbies who come in before they head over will get a sense of things and not help the inflation.
And let's not forget that negotiating is a fact of life in LOS :)
freeler,
time off is vacation for me and my vacation is usually spent in LOS. I'm sure with a few freebies
and off the main circuit you can get by on 1000 baht a day but as this section is a bangkok one i was referring just to bangkok. I'm sure in Khorat hotels etc are much cheaper.
Joe i agree you should always haggle and is part of the fun. you can find the odd decent one in Nana. I took one for 500 short time (quite cute 6/7) last month but thats because she was a part timer and worked at MBK the rest of the time. The others in Nana seem a lot more jaded and greedy than even a year ago. Soi cowboy gets my vote now in bangkok along with the beer garden on soi 7. Soi 33 is obviously expensive for the girls but is an ok place for a happy hour drink (before 9) and a talk with the hostesses in a more sophisticated atmos before the sleaze in soi cowboy begins.
Might head off to khorat next time though with a potential GF (freebie) i met in phuket next time
though heheh!!
I've never done the Art Bars/Soi 33 scene (looking to do it this trip to help round out my education LOL) so I'm curious about your comment about talking in a more sophisticated atmosphere. I know things are pretty overpriced there, generally, but is the level of English by the hostesses any different than what you'd find in other areas? Or is it just more upscale and less frenetic?
I think generally they do yes and but most of the places are actually really nice inside. Not unlike a bar you'd find in london or NY, and the girls are definately more polite and they just obviously LOOK more sophisticated in cocktail dresses rather than platform shoes or school uniforms. Its much more laid back and it can create the impression of just chatting to a 'normal' girl in a bar. Definately worth a look
Cool -- thanks! Do you have any favorite place there, or ones to avoid?
Lucky Lucianos
on the left hand side as you walk in from sukumvit
had the best atmosphere i think with a disco downstairs and happy hour extends to 10pm as opposed to 9 in the other places and lasts all night on sat and sun. So 80 baht for a beer as opposed to 150 or something ridiculous. All the websites point to Monet but i thought this was the worst of the lot i looked at. All the girls reamain behind the bar until you buy them a drink
and/or take them upstairs for a game of pool. All the others had girls on the other side of the bar
for a bit of hands on action while supping your heineken. I thought the girls here were also the worst but apparently on fri or sat you may get appearances from some penthouse models. can't comment as i was only there on a sunday and monday. there was another one about half the way down on the right hand side with an absolute cutie. I can't remember the name now. I think it may have been dali's. Richmonds ont eh left hand side before you get to lucky lucianos also looked ok. Happy hunting
Seydlitz isnt this site here so you dont spend weeks on the web, so you can ask a ? and will get a polite and informed response from someones experiance ??
M~
MIKEZCG,
my understanding is that this forum is primarily here so that people can share experience. You bring something to the party, and you take some home.
MSP asked a lot of basic questions. Answering them all properly would require lengthy replies, and it would mean rehashing information that has been discussed here at length in the past, and that is readily available elsewhere in a much more user-friendly way. A site like http://**************.com/ should be one's first stop.
I am most willing to answer any sensible and specific question to the best of my knowledge. I might even do that politely. But the person asking the question needs to demonstrate that he/she has at least made an effort to find out the basics.
The "just feed me" approach is not what this forum is for. Sorry.
Freeler,
Nice one,
yeah even the worst mamasans don't look that bad!!
JuiceSpike
09-16-02, 01:35
Skinless...
Man, your are compulsive.... Congrats for your excellent report for new comers.... You must have lots of free time.
I think you should seriously consider writing a book about the scene and your adventures, it could be called "Deep into the Skin Jungle." A Man's Journey into Thailand's Sanuk.
Fabulous start on a FAQ, Skinless. Jackson, this would be a great addition not only for Thailand but for many areas. I know there are some great things rather like this in the archives, but since the forum is really where the action is at it would be wonderful to have an option to attach FAQs to each section.
Ok, Skinless, here's some contribution to the cause:
A couple of other places for information on the scene:
http://www.one-night-in-bangkok.com/
http://hometown.aol.com/khonbaba/index.html
http://www.trv.net/trv98/nightlife/nightlife.htm (for Phuket)
http://www.pattayalovers.com/
http://voidxxxx.tripod.com/massage/thaimassage.html
I'll drop in some more stuff later after I get time to run through my bookmarks.
Oh, yeah, Skinless -- Here's some if you want to include a map section:
Maps of Maps of Bangkok nightlife zones, Patpong,
Sukhumvit Rd., Soi Cowboy,
Rachadaphisek and New Petchburi Rd.,
Washington SQ., Nana N.E.P and Soi 4,
Silom &; Suriwongse , including girl-friendly hotels --
http://*************************sanukmaps/
Same thing for Chiang Mai -- http://www.xtremetravel.net/members/Shasta/cm/cm_map.html
Good map of Pattaya (got a nightlife one somewhere, but haven't tracked it down yet) -- http://www.pattayacity.com/pattaya/pmap.html
Skin
www.nanapong.com used to be another great site for hotels and general info. i think its under some reconstruction at the moment though. Should be pretty good when it comes back though.
Anyone know what happened to the original sanuk maps at angelfire. can't seem to access them
anymore
Skinless -- for your "how much to pay" section I've got a couple of pertinent links, both of which are monger databases of prices paid. Both of these are active and the data changes as people continue to add info.
First, http://www.bangkokbargirls.info/ST/index.htm (Actually, the site itself probably bears a mention, as it's got a lot of other things to recommend it, including bar reviews and ratings for Nana and Soi Cowboy, as well as maps of those two areas.)
And second, the one at http://xetg.com/girlspriceline/ which also includes other areas, including freelancer areas, and which might have a better overall baseline due to activity. (This one's actually got some frightening information about overpayment, too, btw -- someone paying 10,000 baht plus a 5000 bar fine for ST I can write off as a typo, but not the several who report paying 3000-5000 baht for LT. And the prices people pay on Soi 33 simply amaze me.)
HarlequinShrimp
09-17-02, 02:09
i have been to LOS many times, and have not been able to find thermae. I know it is near Clinto, but could someone give me a more precise location please?
thanks
trip report (sept 02)
ok.....nothing fancy here people...just the basics. i arrived in bkk around midnight and paid the exhorberant (sp) fare of 650 for "limo" to bkk. yes, i know about the upstairs meter taxi, but i just didn't feel like it (bagged from flight)...anyways, into the mercedes i go, and the driver was quite nice...showing me this and that, eventually arriving at stable lodge around soi 10 (i think). i took someone's advice on this board about the place and booked it ahead of time. when i got there, the front desk guy was a total arrogant jerk, the elevator was as small as a tor**** tube, and my room totally sucked the big one! noisy ac, dirty bathroom.......it goes on and on.
anyways, dropped my gear, and headed out to find the "infamous" thermae - which i did thanks to all the posts here. "star wars" bar it is all right......interesting sort of people hanging around. picked a 20 something chick and back to the hotel for a little romp action, 1000b paid and out the door she went. checked out of there the next morning and stumbled onto a far better hotel - same price. the parkway inn hotel, is basically a stones throw from the majestic suites (nice rooms, i checked them out) and it was 990 baht a night. i found it because they had a sign out front for "internet access" and you go up the stairs and voila! there's 1 computer sitting there and the hotel's reception too. the room was 100x better and i really liked it (staff was good to look at too) - plus in house massage(didn't try).
anyways,.....went to cp2 and was easy to find again thx to the previous posts (thank goodness for "cut and paste")...went in for the happy hour rate of 1300baht. good price as it jumps to 1700b after 1 o'clock i think....picked a little cutie and gave her a good 2 poking's b4 heading back to the hotel. went to mbk, pantip plaza (billy gates would shit himself in there!), and the next day went again to cp2. picked another little cutie, and same thing. admittingly, bkk was boring me and i felt like i needed to get out of there. the pollution, crowds, big city..., not really my cup of tea, so i booked a train ticked (3rd class, 161 baht) to chiangmai.....one thing i have to say is the sky-train they have there is totally awesome. clean, cheap and reliable - it's better than here in canada....much better.
that night, i was in the train station for my 10:30pm departure (15 hr ride......)and i met a girl waiting for the train too (diff. one). had a nice chat, i think she wanted my # or something, but i didn't feel like it and just boarded the train. next report in the other section about cm. see ya there!
Skinless
I always use the Honey hotel on soi 19. they have
good rooms for 750 baht and 800 baht. This includes breakfast. There is a decent swimming pool out front and is
totally girl friendly. The reception is after
the stairs to the rooms so if you don't want to you don't have to 'book' your girl in.
This is the best value hotel i've found anyway
Skin,
I've got honeys email address if it helps.
honeyho@ksc.th.com. You're right it is low key especially compared to the dynasty, nana etc. It isn't just *****mongerers who stay there!
There was a bit of a moody cow at the desk sometimes but the rest of the staff were fine.
Nice move to act broke, you should never flash your wedge around with these girls.
I was in BKK for 3 days in June 2002 and stayed at Nana Hotel. One night I was in Rainbow I and there was an American from Honolulu,Hawaii who was drunk and was pickpocketed by some of the bar girls. I saw the action but decided to keep my mouth shut :-( You would guess why didn't I say something? It was for my safety not to open my mouth in there. So be on the look out guys.
freeler
Thats the very one. Forgot where i'd seen that
as i'm not sure its there official site as they don't seem to have or need one. I think they have quite a loyal following of expats like myself.
Don't want too many people finding out about it though as i don't want it to book up like the dynasty. It is a gem at the price though and right near soi cowboy and the bts at Asok so Nana is only a stop away. Only downside is it is a bit of a walk down soi 19.
Skinless
Theres a pretty cheap hotel on soi 3 called
Nana Inn which is basically opposite the Grace hotel. Nice, big rooms and only 880 baht (a year ago) but when i was there my room had a lot of cockroaches. i'm sure they've sorted the problem out but..
I didn't sea any arabs staying here but they were all outside the grace and the whole soi had a bit of a dodgy atmosphere about it. I'm not being racist but there were a lot of blacks trying to peddle drugs. Soi 19 seems really quiet so no probs sneaking a few thermae dogs down there unnoticed. Theres also all those street hawkers selling chicken noodle soup and the like round the corner on the way to the thermae. In my experience this was an ideal place to pick a bit of after hours action up. Loads of untaken girls from nana, thermae etc seem to eat here after 2am. I even managed to pick up a freebie here.
Where is CP2? Is it within walking distance of the Nana Plaza? Is there a site with information on this place?
Jim
look at the sanuk maps at yahoo groups. The link is given in the Faq provided by skinless.
Anyone know how to get to these though?
you have to register to get to the group
part of yahoo but then when the map comes up it is too small to see.
As for a website on it the general theme of the massage parlours are discussed in stickmans site.
www.nanapong.com used to give reviews of all the masssage parlours but it is under construction at the moment. This site looks like it is going to be awesome when its back up and running. you can get a preview now.
LarryS1352
09-18-02, 01:02
Please pardon this diversion from the usual topics. My name is Larry and I post on the San Diego board. I have never been to Thailand, just Singapore, Japan and mainland China. I am hetersexual.
On several occaisons while cruising the internet I have come across just beautiful Thai transexuals, ladyboys I think they are called. Is this big business in Thailand. If so, besides demand, why...what's that attraction for these guys to become girls?
Anyway...sorry to bust onto your board with such a question but it really intrigues me. As I said I am hetersexual, but I would do some of those ladyboys in a flash.
Larry -- well, yes, it is big business in Thailand. And, yes, ladyboys (or katooeys, as they're called) are everywhere and some are fairly indistinguishable from women. Some guys do have a taste for them, and they're certainly readily available. If that's what you're into, then it's easy enough to go there and find out.
But two points -- first, if you're looking to be with a transexual you may be primarily heterosexual in your orientation, but obviously not exclusively. Second, as Jackson will no doubt intervene and point out, this is a board for men looking for women, not transexuals. If you spend some time reading this section you'll discover that the vast majority of the references to katooeys are about how to detect and avoid them.
LarryS1352
09-18-02, 01:49
Originally posted by joe_zop
Larry -- well, yes, it is big business in Thailand. And, yes, ladyboys (or katooeys, as they're called) are everywhere and some are fairly indistinguishable from women. Some guys do have a taste for them, and they're certainly readily available. If that's what you're into, then it's easy enough to go there and find out.
But two points -- first, if you're looking to be with a transexual you may be primarily heterosexual in your orientation, but obviously not exclusively. Second, as Jackson will no doubt intervene and point out, this is a board for men looking for women, not transexuals. If you spend some time reading this section you'll discover that the vast majority of the references to katooeys are about how to detect and avoid them.
I understand completely. Thank you.
If interested, I stumbled upon a dinky pension house looking place just past the Nana plaza and the Dynasty hotel. Down a narrow street on your left and it is about 50 ft ahead on your right. You will know your there when you see the washing machines in the entrance to the reception. It was B450/night, with a/c and the rooms looked clean enough to do the nasty.
It was my first time in BKK after almost 12yrs in the States and I was there by myself. Regardless of how many times I have been to BKK or somewhere else, I WOULD never stick my nose into other people business, especially, when in the bars or clubs.
Originally posted by skinless
I feel Taodon could have intervened or got management to do something. But it is not a place to be very drunk.
Byeon Kwang Sae
09-18-02, 13:56
Are there any girls in BKK that specialize in the interesting technique of a combo BBBJ plus Tantric Prostate Massage ? ?
Any rec’s would be appreciated
Thanks.
Byeon Kwang Sae
just_a_nice_old_guy@yahoo.com
skinless
the best price/performance ratio I have found is the Ruamchitt Plaza hotel. 900 b for a clean ac room w/hot showers.
As for all of you looking for the Thermae it is in the basement of this hotel. It is at Soi 15 on Sukhumvit
To Skinless, thx for the FAQ for newbies like me. Not directly on the sex topic but can someone tell me how much do I expect to pay for a cab fare from the airport to Sukhumvit? Do I have to tip the driver, if so how much? I apologise if this info is in the FAQ but I could not find it. Also does the Skytrain go from the airport?
Packripper
09-19-02, 05:32
Regarding tipping - At most I tip taxi drivers (on the rare rare occasion I take one) 10-15 Baht (25-35 cents). He can't really improve his service much more than NOT crashing the car before we get to where we want to go.
Valet parking, I'll tip 20-50 Baht, because the service (and the less you tip, the longer you wait) can vary and a scratch on the car would be annoying.
The gals, I tip 500-1000. If you're here often, or are a regional or local local (especially if you hang out in the same 4-5 places), you run into them more often and they all talk to each other anyway (and I think we already covered how good a memory they have). And yes they can and do improve services when compensated, particularly over the course of "getting to know" them. Improves sandwich quality or VIP room atmosphere when you have a decent tipping repuation as well.
But to each his own. :p
Thailand is a paradise for me because I am a total cheapskate with everyone except for myself or my personal interests.
;)
Pack
Packripper
09-19-02, 15:19
hola Skin,
Well... I don't believe it's any different from going into a regular bar (where sex is not involved) and getting better service for being a good tipper. Whether you tip or not, sure, you'll probably be able to order a beer. Yes, it'll probably be wet/cold. But whether you get served first and how "well" you get served is generally in proportion to how well you tip. I'm as cheap as a .... um, someone who practices Jud___m. ;) I wouldn't tip a satang if I didn't feel like it had real results. It's not for face because the only person who knows is the girl (and her circle of friends).
A clearer example. Let's go behind the glass. You walk into a bar or MP or coffeeshop/club (say, like Siam Hotel, Sparks, Route 66, etc). You see the girls who are working whispering to each other. Well, if you're a newbie there, you might think they are whispering things like "oh, he's so handsome.... or oh, wow, what an ugly mother ***---." If you're a regular and you're friends with some of these gals, you know it's more like "yeah, this guy likes to change positions a lot. this guy is a real pr*ck. he's XX years old. he's from ____ . But the main point is usually.... he's a _____ tipper. " Yeah, they do remember. It might not be a big deal if you're just passing through or you think you won't be around again until the gals forget you. But if you live here or are a frequent visitor, yes, you should be a considerate tipper. (just my opinion, of course) Some of it is superficial of course. But I do enjoy the mild amusement from the valets, cheer guests, waitresses, working gals etc remembering my name, knowing what I drink and eat and like to order, not having to give me a parking slip because they know me and my car, etc. But if the main criteria is... wet hole? spread legs? bbbj? "appreciative" squeaking? Yes, those are all "free" and included. ;)
And yes while I'm referring to soapy girls in general, I do believe it applies to freelancers as well (since I use freelancers to introduce me to other freelancers).
:p
Pack
Packripper
09-19-02, 16:02
...that's not to say that i wouldn't tip if i didn't feel the effort was there or if it was a negative/less than positive experience. as far as i can recall, i've abstained from tipping one time. she was annoying, way too talkative when i wasn't reciprocating, insisting on using her own condoms (whereas i prefer my beloved trojan supras), etc etc. i'll tip less than my "par" anytime i don't feel like i've been served. and yes, they know through the grapevine... most customers tip range, par, etc. these gals don't sit around and talk politics and fashion, you know. there's one main driving force in their lives. they talk about it.
of course 500-1000 is not a standard by any means. just for me. i have friends who never tip, friends who tip 100-300, and friends who tip 1500-3000 (the latter being mostly underground casino partners or loan sharks who are spending other people's money anyway). if i was to go on a "heart of darkness" tour through korat, sure, i probably wouldn't tip much or perhaps anything. ;)
as for love? um, if i'm in the mood to use words, then i do, i guess. i make sure the thai tone i use is clear that it's part of the play acting and that i haven't somehow lost my grip on the different stations in life we were born into... i'm definitely not one of those kids that thinks i can load pluto into the family station wagon and bring him home from disneyland. i'm a businessman, and i'd rather get to the point if i'm dealing with someone who is an "employee" rather than a "partner."
:p
note, for those ya’ll sticking to patpong, nana, cowboy, clinton, etc… you probably don’t need to be tipping. it’s the norm. no problema.
Forgive my ignorance, but do you mean tips as in giving a girl money on top of the LT pay? Aside from the bar fine and whatver beers I purhcased, I usually give girls 1000 baht in the morning and that's it. Is that too much?
That's not too much, 1000 B is the right price for LT.
Well done coronas.
You guys see that Marc has put up a website at www.edenclub-bkk.com/home.html ?? I don't see it on the FAQ page yet... would be a good addition and will save all those answers to "where can I find the famous Eden Club" questions.
And in the onsite FAQ he comes right out and confirms the house policy... you can't take "only one" (unless you want to pay for two). There's a booking form also... interesting idea.... the list of personal preferences is a gas. It looks like he's planning a "forum" also, but it's still under construction.
ManonsanBoy
09-21-02, 14:32
Well, well, well. I read so much about Eden so I had to try it. The rooms were not great but the girls were willing and eager to please. But there were not great lookers.
Went to Darlings the next night. Same money (for 2 ladies) but much much better in almost every respect. Forget Eden. It sucks compared to Darlings.
I would like to add that i found the Eden club excellent and it is a little expensive but the service i feel more than compensates for this. The 90 minutes IS 90 minutes and you can have as many pops as you want. Most soapies its one and if you want any more its extra. There are some growlers there admittedly but i found a few that more than suited. I am in no way tied to the club at all.
I also find the addition of dildos and uniforms
an excellent feature
Howdy again, Skinless and fellow posters... just want to set the record straight a little: I am most definitely NOT Marc and not looking to promote Eden. I have never liked the guy since the old days at Elysee, and happen to agree 100% with your remarks about him & his club. And I was certainly not looking to start another thread on Eden... that ground has been covered (too well) in previous posts (a couple are mine).
I'm not sure how posting the URL for a place that has attracted a lot of comment is any different from you and Filth having a dialogue about Honey (on the wrong board)... but I'm not looking to raise any hackles here....;)... just don't like being identified with Marc or anyone else with a commercial interest... I am a veteran poster... starting the day Jackson put the new board online.... not frequent, but a vet. The post counter shows wrong yesterday because I left the space out of my handle.
Posting the URL was an attempt to be helpful... that's all. And I thought the online booking feature was interesting.
File
Eden verse Darling. I have been to both place many times. If I have to pick which is better than the other I would pick Eden. I agree with everybody about Marc, he can be and is a SOB. But are you going there to hang with Marc or the girls. The girl at Darling can have a lot of attude, and they go after your money as much as possible. The girls are better looking at Darling, but the girls at Eden are better at what they are doing and what you are there for! For a great soapy Massage in the Sukumvit area, I think Anne's is better, more fun and less cost.
But for the best soapy massages, take a taxi to the Grand Hotel, which is about a 25 minute taxi ride from Sukumvit area. Around the Grand Hotel, which the Grand Hotel is a 5 plus Star Hotel in Bangkok, but not cheap, is multiple Massage complexes. And I mean complexes, one of them is 15 storey high, and there are to many massage complexes to count. They go for about 2 km on both side of the road and go back in some too!
The prices are about the same as the Sukumvit area, but service you get is 10 times better, the room are 5-star rooms, and the girls you will not believe. During the prime hours 6 to 11 p.m., the fish bowls at some of these places have easily 100 plus girl waiting. These are the place you hear about. These places make Darling look like a hole in the wall. These are places that have the multiple Fish tank and the true super stars work at. These are the places that have the movie star work at, that you have to make reservations days in advance for. These places have muliple bars inside of them, coffee shops, resturants, seat areas, that you can take the girls to before you go to the rooms and talk. They have theme rooms for any fansty that you would have. They have girls that are specialist in anything you can think of. This is worth the trip for anybody that wants the best soapy massage you have every had in your life.
Taxi is the best way to get there, the ride will cost about 300 baht mid-day, depending on traffic. You will fall in love with this place the first time you visit. And you will not believe your eyes, when you are in the middle of this area and look in both direction, there must be 100 plus places, with 100 to 300 girls working at each one of them. It is great!
Skinless, you make a good point about the "bell" that often gets lost in the shuffle... I really like to take my time, probably because my young buck days are long past, and a place that's strict about timing and won't let you extend (or won't without a lot of fuss) does not make my short list.
Most times when I'm 90 minutes into it, I am just about where I want to "hold" for a while and enjoy the moment as it were.
And of course you can never be sure ahead of time whether the lady (s) you have chosen are going to get you to that
state or not... so flexibility is key. At Eden you really have to book that extra 90 mins before you even start... and that doesn't cut it. The only place really cooking (as usual) seemed to be the good old "Corner".
Speaking of weather, I was in 'Pong on Saturday nite (pissing rain) and it was damn slow... Goldfingers, King's Castle I, several others were reeaally dead
I agree with skinless on the 90 minute thing at Eden. With Marc's, it is 90 or less minutes, not 91 minutes. But Darling is the same thing but 120 minutes. Do not go past 120 minutes. Has anybody taking any of the Eden Girls home after hours? I been with 2 girls there a few times, that were great! They were really into their job, each other, and also more important, making the customer happy! This is why I have return a few times, was this pair of girls. I would love to try the pair for a all night affair. Are the girls on there own after work or are they on Marc's clock still?
But in my mind, the true fantasyland in Adult Disney Land of Bangkok is Massage Complex around the Grand Hotel. Sometime the cost is a little more there. But you get what you pay for. I have stay there with girls for more than the 2 hour routine. You pay for the addition time, but no pressure to get out right now!
I haven't been to Eden and I don't plan to go. As far as I can tell from descriptions of the services offered they don't have anything that you can't get at King Kong bar in pattaya. The differences are that King Kong bar the prices are 400 for room and 500 per lady (rather than the 3600 for two lady Eden price), and KK gives you 120 minutes although they don't seem to be striktly watching the clock.
Where is the King Kong Club in Pattaya? I would like to try this place on my next visit.
Hey Boys--
La Larry here. Long time poster on the Buenos Aires Boards.
Have read several past posts and would like to hear from some of the BKK vets about the best way to spend 7 days in Thailand (hobby wise) E.G. "You should spend 5 nights in BKK and 2 nights in Pataya.
Also--would greatly appreciate advice on where the highest end bar girls are available. And where the hottest massage parlor girls work. (Price is no object).
Thanks. I will provide feel and detail REPORTS! (I hit the ground in mid October)
Hey, LA Larry. I'm headed to BKK (LOS) around Oct. 19. I am not a Bangkok "veteran", but I was there in February, and thanks to this board, I was able to get around and I knew how to play the game. I saw a lot of places, and had lots of girls, but there are still a few places I missed and would like to check out. Maybe we can get together and hit these places and cause some serious damage to some Thai Mamas!!! I want to do some serious hunting, but I'd also like to get together with some friends have a few beers and a few laughs. Maybe some of the other guys on the board will join us. It would be fun.
Just to let you know, I saw some tix to LOS from the NY area for $690 (Weekday travel in October). I think it's a good price. Paid $900 last time I went (bought tix too close to travel time). Hope some of you guys will find this info helpful.
Yeah, Skin: "...... you can't even have a beer, for f**ks sake".... that's my problem with the place in a nutshell. The pressure to keep moving along the assembly line starts as soon as you sit down... not even one beer before you get the hard sell - I can't think of any other place that is run this way. More suitable for Spore or some similar place than the laid back Land of Smiles.
I wouldn't fault the girls though... not much to look at, but great customer service attitude.
Jimhart.... I have found that Darling will let you extend in 30 or 60 minute increments; your girl has to phone down to the reception/control desk to get clearance... then you settle the extra charges on your way out.
Globetrotter
09-26-02, 19:53
Hey guys,
This is Globetrotter. I'm new to this board but have posted a bit on the Baltimore, Washington, DC and Virginia boards. I.ve also posted on the ASFO board under a different handle but mostly lurk these days. I just returned from a month in SE Asia and spent a few days in BKK so I thought I'd check out the activity here to remind me of what I am missing. There have been some posts about Eden and Jimhart69 asked the question about whether anyone had ever taken a girl home from there after hours.
On my previous trip to BKK, about three years ago, I spent a whole afternoon in Eden and had three lovelies do my bidding at the same time. It was a bit pricey but still worth it. I liked one of the girls so much that I took her back to my hotel for the night. She was a real sweetheart of a girl, the type to melt your heart in seconds. We had a great time, a real GFE in every sense of the word and the next day I sent her back as I was off to Cambodia.
I recall the whole adventure (afternoon and night) cost me about 5,000 Baht. Pricey, but a real bargain by US standards (about $125.00). It was a great time but I probably wouldn't do it again because you can do so much more with that same 5,000 but still, I wanted to experience Eden then and so I went with it.
I've written a rather lengthy account of my last three days in BKK and have considered posting it to this board. Probably didn't break any new ground but it does provide some details which may be of interest to some.
Gentlemen...
Newbie to the board, however not new to LOS.
I have up until a couple of months ago been dating a TGF who is also my travel agent. Best of both worlds really, an extra discount on plane tix, along with some wonderful Thai hospitality.
we broke up a couple of months, and find myself in need of some companionship.
I am landing at Don Muang at 1.20 AM on a saturday. My question is this. I am staying at the Royal Parkview, soi 23 and even though I only have carry on luggage, I probably won't make it into town until 2.00 AM. What with checking in, etc... I won't be out until 2.30 or so. Where should I head? Will there still be some stragglers on Cowboi, or should I head to another place? Not looking for LT, just an hour or so to unwind from 28 hours of travel.
One more thing, from what i read it is 100 ST, 2000 LT, what should I expect to pay at that hour ?
Thanks for any and all info. If there is anything stellar to report, will do so upon return.
1ball.
1ball, it's 1000 b ST & 2000 b LT for suckers, and 500 b ST & 1000 b LT for the rest -24 hrs a day, 365 days a year (366 days on leap years).
You'll find a reasonable selection of pussy on Sukhumvit at 2:30 am or you can also try Thermae.
Gladiator, thanks for the info.
Certainly do not want to contribute to the "sucker" factor.
Just haven't hads to pay for it the last 2 years while in LOS, other than the noodle shops and a few movies.
1ball, you may also want to check out the Grace Hotel coffee shop on suk soi3, its not somewhere i frequent often but its open 24hrs and since the crackdown the place has really been busy with hunters and gals alike. You will definitly have to search among the rough to find a diamond here though!!
Gladiator, hats off for the cheap rates, i know ST in suk area can be as low as 500baht in very early hours or middle of the day. I normally pay between 800-1000baht ST and 1200-1500baht LT, for a gogo girl, but SW's or freelancers can usually be got for 1000baht LT all depending on the negotiations and gal herself, quite happy with that and don't feel a 'sucker'.
Happy hunting.
Cebu Local
09-30-02, 15:06
guys
i know this question should be under hotels,but on my trip to BKK this oct 22-25,a friend offered me a free stay at Baiyoke Sky beside Pratnuman market,never stayed there before and being beside a market is a turnoff,but the 100% discount is tempting,is there anybody with an idea if this place is girl friendly,otherwise will stick to my familiar sukhumvit hunting grounds.hope for any advice
Re Baiyoke Sky and girl friendliness! They are quite happy to allow visitors, but the girl may have to leave her i.d at the lobby and when you check out you will probably have to pay around 500baht for each night you have a guest.
I don't know how many of you are regulars to LOS, but for those who are, finding a regular, with a "real" job, really is the way to go.
I met this really cute 8/10, 9/10 a couple of years ago, and we started seeing each other. It was great, free sex when in BKK, about 7 weeks every year, and only had to go out to local Thai restaurants and go to a few movies. Took her shopping once or twice, certainly nothing extravagant, she helped me out when i wanted to buy something, and the sex was out of this world. the only problem was she started to get clingy, and it makes it difficult to butterfly.
If you have the opportunity, work the situation, it really is worth it for a while.
going there next week, hope to find something similar which would last me into the new year.
1ball.
A taboo topic :
The upstairs ripp-off bars in Patpong.
Could we talk about our experience ? These bars are the most sleazy ones, with girls completely nude and crazy. Are these bars still alive ? A few years ago, I have been charged 400 B for just for one drink. I know the general recommendation is to pay, keep the bill and go to the first tourist police office to complain. But who wants to go through this hassle and waste a full evening ?
What I would like to know is : Are some of these bars more reliable than others ?
Do these bars over charge you only if you just have a drink ? What about if you order a lady drink and take a girl ? Are you still over charged then ?
1ball, that's a good point, but I had the conviction that all freebies end up asking for money.
I got a freebie once, an 18 year old shop assistant in Pattaya, it was a new experience in Thailand: she fucked for free, she believed she was my girlfriend -well, that's what she said-, but it lasted just a couple of days as I had to leave the country.
Then, after a few e-mails she told me the famous fairy tale of 'The Sick Mother in Hospital' and asked me to send her some money, so I just didn't reply and forgot about her, completing this way the 3F cycle on this occasion.
After that I've heard many stories of freebies ending up in the same way, so I thought it was impossible to get a freebie who would be a freebie all the time. Didn't your freebie ask you for any money in 2 years?
Anyway, in my opinion freebies are good to get some fun at better rates -one dinner now and then is always cheaper than handing 1000 B each morning-, but obviously I don't take a 12-hour flight to enjoy only one pussy, I'm always after a multi-pussy experience.
But considering that freebies usually work as shop assistants, waitresses, etc, there's plenty of time available for ST's with different pussy.
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