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Latitude Cruz
08-07-04, 18:59
Okay, so I thought I’d offer a report on Rio since I’ve been there a few times and I can give some heads-up on the travel/transportation as well as the housing/hotel side…and of course, some opinion on the garota scene.
First, the air service to Rio isn’t as good as it used to be. It’s a long story but basically they had 2 big airlines in Brazil, Varig & TAM. Varig was on the verge of bankruptcy, and they tried to generate as much immediate cash flow as possible by selling tickets very cheap. Most U.S. airlines said “screw that, we have bad enough profit margins since Sept11)…and pulled out of Rio somewhat (in some cases completely). These U.S. airlines still serve Sao Paolo (more business passengers paying big bucks) or (in the case of American Airlines) Belo Horizonte. Well, TAM (the younger and previously #2 airline) and Varig (former #1) are now in the midst of what appears will be a complete merger (TAM is the acquiring airline). For now, you will find the 2 airlines treat one another’s tickets as interchangeable (when you get to the airport they’ll put you on either company’s airplane regardless of what company generated the ticket).
Okay…why do you care?
Because if you buy a ticket to SaoPaolo International (Garulhous GRU), you can take a bus (16$BR) to the Domestic airport (Congonhas CGH) and buy a ticket anywhere you want. There’s 4 companies going to Rio which results in departures every 15 minutes…there’s tons of service to everywhere else as well.
At the Domestic (CGH) airport you will see an airline not represented at the International (GRU): “Gol”. For Americans I’ll make this analogy: They’re sort of the Southwest or JetBlue of Brazil. For Europeans: Think of Ryan Air. For Aussies: Think of Virgin Blue. For anyone else: Think of me with your wife (just kidding, sorry) They’re a new company with new planes and trying to generate a low fare niche in Brazil. We’ll see how it works in the long term (I’m not sure there’s enough Brazilians with enough disposable income to create a demand for such a thing) but for now it seems to be successful.
Okay, so for what equates to approximately 200$R you can buy a ticket form CGH to SDU (Santos-Dumont is the Rio Domestic airport…GIG is the International). From SDU to the beach is approximately 5-10min in a taxi (depending on traffic). GIG to the beach is approximately 30min.
Before you leave home, print some maps from the internet:
http://ipanema.com/citytour/mapcopa.htm
http://ipanema.com/citytour/home.htm#links
Once you’re in the Copacabana area you need someone to help you get your bearings straight and get set up. Many people recommend Bobby at “Blame it on Rio 4 Travel”. I concur. He’s from Rockaway, NY and he’ll keep you on track. He’ll get you a good place to stay, wheels, a local cell phone, calling cards, etc. There’s an internet café next door (?Tudo e Facil?). He manages several apartments and owns a few himself. He’ll get you set up on pretty short notice if you’re not in town during a very busy time. If he can’t take care of you in one of his own properties, the guy is totally plugged-in and will hook you up somewhere somehow. His contacts are:
www.blameitonrio4travel.com
bobby@blameitonrio4travel.com
Tel: 55-21-3813-5510
Address: RuaXavier da Silveira, 15B Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
So now you’re in the heart of the action. You got a place to stay. You just flew all night…landed GRU 8AM…bus to CGH…flight to SDU…taxi…meet up with Bobby & get a place…It’s approximately 1or2pm…You need some sleep so you can terrorize the garotas tonight!
Set your alarm for 6pm or 7pm…Shower…Darken the room and crash. Make sure you get out of bed at 6 or 7pm. You need to recover from that flight and get yourself onto the local time cycle. If you plan to hit the clubs all night, sleep later (8 or 9pm). If you plan to do the clubs but still wake up tomorrow for some beach time, wake up don’t overdo this nap…pull yourself back from the bed at 6 or 7pm. This way you can dine, drink, party, and get some mongering in…go to sleep at 3am (-ish) and recover some more on the beach starting at 10 or 11am tomorrow.
So now you are out of bed at 7pm…dress nice. Maybe some nice tan linen pants, leather sandals and a white cotton/linen shirt (under no circumstance wear sneakers for an evening on the town !!) and go for a stroll down Av.Atlantica.
Find a nice Churrascaria and expect to spend 20to25$R including drinks & tips (they don’t tip much in Brazil but I recommend generosity for good service).
If you want a quick trip to a local terma you can try “Monte Carlo” (R.Hilario de Gouveia 19 Tel: 21-2255-4489). The owner’s name is Marcio. He’s a great guy and will show you a good time personally as well as introduce you to some more girls for “outside parties” if you make a good impression. There’s also “L’uomo” (Rua Siqueira Campos). I have more experience at Monte Carlo (local & convenient)…but both have been reviewed here and I concur with the consensus opinion.
You will find the (in)famous nightclub/pickup bar named “Help!” easily (Av.Atlantica). Buy a ticket now, so you save tome and money later.
You will also find the restaurant/outdoor café “Meia Petaca” next door to “Help!”. Decent food, very cold beer (try “Skol” or “Brahma” they’re local Brazilian beers and quite good). At Meia Petaca you will find working girls relaxing and waiting to get picked up. Most of them will be at “Help!” later. You can take any of these girls for a quickie for 50$R.
This raises another interesting point: Hotel vs. Apartment. Most Hotels will charge you to bring a lady in as a guest. They will also want the lady to have some I.D. Apartments avoid this cost/hassle…but it places the onus on you to bring home ladies that will not try to rob you (Caveat Emptor). In most other ways apartments will be the same as hotels…they will have daily cleaning service (including linens).
During this trip you should investigate the scene at “Help!” as well as “Barbarella” (near the corner of R.Barata Ribeiro and Av.Princesa Isabel). My assessment: Both have lots of “semi-pro” ladies, with some more “semi” and some more “pro”. Barbarella has more “pro” leaning ladies…also more consistently hot looking. Help is much larger and has more of a mix of ladies. Varying degrees of “pro” and varying degrees of attractiveness. In general, you will find some ladies at Help that are the most beautiful you will ever see…but they will be mixed among many others that are less attractive.
Of course, you will need local cash. Don’t waste too much money getting cash exchanged at the airport. In Rio, parallel to Av.Atlantica is the main retail street in the neighborhood...named “Av.Nossa Senhora de Copacabana”. There’s a CitiBank ATM there that will accept almost any American ATM card and you get Brazilian cash at that days exchange rate…without paying the fees charged by airport money changers.
I strongly recommend you try out the local food and music scene…not just the mongering scene. Brazil is a beautiful country with amazing people and delicious food. They love to eat, drink, dance, and enjoy life.
Therefore, go to an area known as “Lapa”…just a few minutes from Copacabana, it’s a popular area for local young people to drink, dance and party the night away with great music and fun at the local samba halls. Your odds of meeting a 100% amateur and bringing her home are better than you think…and it’s pretty satisfying after the whole “pay to play” scene gets you a little jaded.
Check these bars out:
http://ipanema.com/rio/nite/e/dance.htm
I recommend “Public” and “Studio 54”…but it’s been a while and the “hot bar” changes rapidly. Go to one or two, and ask the most attractive/hip looking people where the “hot” place is. Try to find a “district” that you can roam around and scout for a good night scene…that’s why I recommend Lapa…you may also cruise Leblon, but I think that neighborhood is best for daytime diversions and less for nightlife (“Melt” is the only nightclub I went to in Leblon).
Daytime on the beach in Copa would consist of renting a chair, buying a towel, buying a capoeira (a delicious cocktail) or two and eating some fresh shrimp while you relax. Ladies will pass by and show what God gave them (God was very generous to most of them). The ladies will be available for companionship at your whim. Don’t be shy…but pace yourself.
Which brings me to another point: Blue Diamonds are abundant in Brazil. Walk into any drug store and tell them you want it, and they sell it (usually in 4packs). The price works out to approximately $8US per tablet.
Be aware: This is an environment few have ever experienced. An American with any reasonable amount of money in Brazil will become intoxicated with the feeling. While you are there, you are the closest most of us will ever be to actually living the life of a rock star: Money is virtually no consideration (due to your strong buying power with the $USD). With an endless supply of THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN ON THE PLANET at your disposal, your tendency will be to visit the drug store with increasing frequency. You will become dizzy with the experience. Even the youngest buck will burn out.
Just keep reminding yourself: Brazil is not going anywhere. It will always be here…take your time and savor every drop. Too much too fast, and you will crash (not to mention the havoc too many blue diamonds can cause in your belly).
One more item along the lines of “pacing yourself”: Leaving the country you will need approximately 120$R *CASH* at the airport to pay some kind of Customs/Immigration/Service Fee. On your last day of festivities, don’t forget to set aside that much cash (plus taxi fares and airport snacks).
Nice report Latitude Cruz, very true about pacing yourself. When in Rio I have to remind myself of the joke where you have 2 bulls at the top of a hill looking down on a heard.
The young bull says to the old one "lets sprint down there and grab a good looking young hefer and fuck the shit out of her". The old bull replies "son, lets stroll down there, round up all the good looking young hefers and fuck them all".
This report was posted on another website. It is not my own writing, but is a very good read and all first time visitors should read it before travelling to Rio.
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Rio De Janeiro Trip Report
By El Gordo
This report chronicles the adventures of three horny males (El Gordo, Akira and Mr. Deviant) from The US, to Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.
When El Gordo flies for 20 hours from San Francisco to “The River of January”, he needs all of the leg and ass room he can get. He also needs unlimited access to strong alcoholic beverages and palatable food. El Gordo didn’t become El Gordo by eating and drinking cheap crap.
Unfortunately, El Gordo can’t afford to fly anything but coach. And on 20+ hour flights, coach really sucks.
However, if you’ve got a good friend who has too many frequent flyer miles, like my international business traveling companion Akira, El Gordo suggests inviting him along and proffering this deal:
El Gordo: Dude, there’s no way I am cramming my fat ass into coach for 20 hours.
Akira: Okay, well pay me the cash equivalent of a coach ticket and I’ll use miles to buy you a business class ticket.
El Gordo: You cheap bastard! Why don’t you just give me the miles, you have more than you can ever use anyways. Besides, selling frequent flyer miles is against airline policy.
Akira: Suit yourself then. Enjoy coach.
El Gordo: Sneaky Devil! Alright then, here’s your damned money!
It worked for El Gordo, and it could work for you too.
El Gordo and Akira boarded their flight on San Francisco and strapped themselves in for the long haul ahead. The first stop would be a 2 hour layover in Miami, followed by a direct flight to Rio.
Akira checked the financial pages and saw that the Brazilian currency, the Real (pronounced hee-al) was trading against the dollar at 3.6 Real to $1USD. This would bode very well for discount minded sleaze mongers such as ourselves.
El Gordo, in a vain attempt to sleep on an airplane, downed some valium and gin and tonics. This had the unfortunate effect of slowing El Gordo down, but not putting him out of his misery. Akira spent the rest of the flight watching El Gordo spill food and drinks all over his shirt at mealtime and laughing hysterically at him. Bad Akira!
Upon arrival at the Rio airport (GIG) and after clearing customs, we came face to face with 5 kiosks filled with barkers for taxi cab companies. There are two different kinds of cabs in Rio; Radio cabs, and street cabs. The radio cabs are literally twice the price of the street cabs. Guess which ones are hawking themselves next to customs? Right-o! Our radio taxi from GIG to Rio Othon. cost $R47. Whereas our friend, Mr. Deviant, took a yellow cab to the same hotel for $R25. Avoid the barkers who try to “help you” as their “help” effectively doubles the price.
Mr. Deviant believes that when visiting developing nations with the sole purpose of fucking their young women, there’s no reason to skimp on food, booze and luxurious accommodations. He found The Othon Palace which is billed at www.brazil.com as a 5 star hotel. While it is indeed clean and comfortable and the service is good, it is by no means a 5 star by US/European standards. It is older and somewhat threadbare. Still, we had a room with 3 twin sized beds and a bathroom with good water pressure – overlooking the beach from the 12th floor, for $150USD/night - $50 bucks per night.
Akira and I took a Siesta, but our constantly horny friend Mr. Deviant immediately went to one of the Thermas, L’uomo www.luomo.com.br .
A Therma is a combination health spa/disco/bar/*****houses, and they are the reason you are reading this report right now. The Thermas all operate in a similar fashion. Here’s the drill:
o You check in with the front desk and are handed a locker room key.
o You then change out of your street clothes and in to a fluffy bathrobe, slippers, and your underwear.
o You then take a sauna and or steam room if you so desire, and then take a long shower (they call it a douche).
o Do your hair, brush your teeth, shave, whatever (they supply most everything) and head upstairs to the disco/bar.
o Here you grab a drink (billed to your locker #) and begin scouting the female situation. On a Friday night at 8PM, there will be tons of girls hanging out and dancing in the bar . They are very aggressive and will grab your ass, nipples and cock and try to get you to take them upstairs. Feel free to grab some tit and ass too. Hanging out and flirting is half the fun. Buy a girl a drink and let her teach you some Portugese. When you’re ready to rumble, go upstairs.
o Drinks and food are priced reasonably. There is also no difference in price if you buy for the ladies (not true at Centaurus, where they charge more for her drink)
o Sessions are billed at 40 minutes or an hour and charged to your account. No cash is ever needed while in the Therma. Entrance fee is 40 or 50 R$. Room fee is 140-200.
L’uomo is a little hard to find the first time. In Mr Deviant’s words, “Its kind of hard to find as it is in a shopping mall and I wound up walking up and down the same street corner several times before I figured it out but once inside I was glad I’d taken the time. This place is fucking awesome.
Mr. Deviant returned to the room a few hours later to report to us that his “date”, Monica, at one point pulled his cock out of her pussy and offered her ass, basically insisting on anal! He said that the selection was top notch and that the attitude of the girls seemed really great.
We all three were very hungry by now and headed next door to the “Mai Pateca” International Café. To our surprise and amusement, the café is filled with and surrounded by hookers. All shapes and sizes. Overall they are a much poorer quality than what you’ll find in the Thermas, but the prices seem to be lower. We overheard one guy negotiate R45 for some company.
The heat and humidity in Rio is quite oppressive, even at night. We ordered beers and had some calamari. We also started drinking the official cocktail of Brazil, the Caipirinha http://www.maria-brazil.org/caipirinha.htm .
Dinner was fine. Nothing special really, but we enjoyed drinking and watching the hookers all around us. Akira, still jetlagged from his previous travels that week, decided to call it an early night.
Mr. Deviant insisted that I join him at L’uomo for round 2, which I did. I fucked a cute 5’5 20 YO brunette named Veronica, and Mr. Deviant did two more girls named Susie and Carla. Mr Deviant thought Carla looked a bit like Guess and Victoria’s Secret model Adriana Lima. Obviously the names are fake and the staff changes, but we were all really impressed with the beauty and with the great attitude of these girls. They seem to enjoy what they are doing and can really be lots of fun both in and out of the bed.
At this point you might be skeptical about Mr. Deviant’s sexual prowess. I don’t blame you. It’s kind of hard to believe anybody could crave sex so often and come 3 times in a day after traveling for so long. Know now, gentle reader, that Mr. Deviant is a recreational user/abuser of Viagra. He eats about ¼ of a tablet and walks around pitching a tent for 12 hours at a time.
By the second morning we decided to find an ATM and get some cash. We were trying to limit our carrying around money because we had heard that there was a lot of crime in Rio. We felt that while there was certainly a reason for concern, the feeling wasn’t really all that different than any other major city in the world.
We learned that in Brazil, not all ATM’s are created equal. More to the point, not all ATM’s will accept your American (US) ATM cards. We found many ATM’s that had Plus and Interlink symbols on them, but that refused our Plus and Interlink cards, complaining that the Cirrus network was not available.
In the end we only found one bank that would work, the Banco De Brasil. Even in this bank, there were only 2 or 3 out of 10 ATM’s that had Cirrus logos on them. Also, be aware that not all ATM’s are available 24 hours. And also be aware that they often run out of money and you might have to wait for a refill. It happened to us twice! Don’t panic if you run low on cash as almost all decent restaurants as well as the thermas will accept credit cards.
Having not yet visited the actual beach, we decided to go for a walk beachside. It was VERY hot out, easily 110F. Coconuts, called Cocos’s, cost $R1.00 at the kiosks in front of the beach. They take a small machete to the top of a coconut and drop in a couple of straws – viola! It’s not as refreshing as something ice cold, but it is kind of fun in a Gilligan’s Island sort of way.
A siesta back at the hotel room as in order. After snoozing for a couple of hours, Mr. deviant was the first to rise, and of course, headed straight out to the Monte carlo. El Gordo awoke an hour and a half later and joined him while our Japanese cabin boy Akira chose to continue siesta and guard our valuables in the room. I met our Croatian friend outside and he took me in. Banged liliana, Mr deviant banged some chick who he claims possesses special pussy tightening skills that made her the tightest fuck ever.
We hooked up with Akira and went to another Brazilian BBQ. This one was called carretao – prices were the same as last night, but the quality and serviced were much higher. We had fantastic waiters and Maitre’d who made sure our experience was excellent. All of the BBQ was similar, but better meat. We had caiperana, beers, water, after dinner port wine and cognac….. $R102 with tip. I love Rio!!!
El Gordo wanted to take advantage of the opportunity to smoke some real Cuban cigars, and found a little cafe next to our hotel called Havana. We picked up some good robusto cigars for $R10 each… I have no idea of the brand but they were very good for the price.
Our next stop was a little café right outside of the Help Disco. We enjoyed some more caiperana and we watched some amazing talent walking into that place. We were all in a meat alcohol coma and called it a night.
On Saturday morning MR. Deviant went to Ipanema beach to do some exploring, while El Gordo and Akira chose to sleep in until the afternoon.
The three of us Went to L’uomo and spent a couple of hours with the girls. I found Susy from two days before and spent 40 minutes and multiple positions with her. Mr. Deviant did a little number with braces (Lucila) and long blond hair. Akira found a tall dirty blonde with long hair in a ponytail, looked kind of like xxx. Mr. Deviant has concluded that many of the girls don’t mind being photographed and we will try to do so in the next couple of days.
Here’s the super ritzy part of the trip - We had dinner at Madonna’s (okay, like anybody gives a shit) favorite Italian seafood restaurant, Satyricon. It was very upscale, very fresh and had great food and service. This was the only true gourmet meal we had on our trip. In San Francisco this would easily have cost $USD 75 each. Dinner for 3 of us was $R410, which is very expensive by Rio standards, but still comes to $40USD each for gourmet seafood, cocktails, wine and dessert.
We came back to Copacabana and did some souvenir and art shopping. Mr. Deviant Got a nice oil painting of a naked girl (of course) for $R80, we bought some beautiful maps carved on leather for $R220 and some knickknacks like Brazilian drums and shellacked piranha fish for the folks back home.
Then on to the infamous “Help” Disco. Mr. Deviant picked up a con artist who was humorous and helpful enough for us to buy him a couple of drinks and admission. He was pretty insistent on “helping” us with hotels should we choose to party with any of the girls. We thought he might be kind of shady and looking to roll a foreigner, so we politely refused his service.
The Help disco itself is a sight to behold. The dance floor is huge, there’s 2 levels and 2 bars. The bartenders don’t take your money from you. Instead, you go to a kiosk and buy a ticket for the kind of drink you desire, then present that ticket to the bartender. There’s enough disco lights whirring around in there to keep you motivated and the sound system is excellent.
The female talent is also extraordinary and mostly all for sale. This is a mixture of pros and amateurs. Again, they’re very aggressive and there’s many chances for a nice cheap feel here and there.
Mr. Deviant decided to party with 2 tall blondes from the dance floor. Tatiana was 24 and Juliana was 27. Both were about 5’9, tight bodies, long blonde hair, nice faces. Mr. Deviant negotiated to party with the two of them together for $200USD. He found a hotel for $R110 and came once in each of his dates. These girls only worked at Help on Friday and Saturday nights. This may be fairly common so go to Help on weekends to find the best talent. Mr. Deviant noted that the girls did not do each other and will negotiate this up front next time! Poor Mr. Deviant….
The following morning Akira and El Gordo had tickets to see the soccer playoffs between Rio De Janeiro and Sao Paulo. We booked our trip with the kiosk in the hotel. $R60 each included tickets to the game, round trip transport and a guide. Our guide, Miguel, spoke no English… so pidgin Portuguese and High School Spanish had to suffice. The game was awesome. The crowds were insane. People actually attacked the opposing team’s bus as it arrived at the stadium. People were lighting bottle rockets out of the windows of their cars. There must have been 10000 people tailgating in the parking lot alone!
Meanwhile, Mr. Deviant took the morning easy and did some people watching. It was 45 C in Rio and difficult to be motivated to do much in that heat.
After the game we returned to our room to freshen up and Mr. Deviant and El Gordo went back to Luomo. We each did a different girl. I had a 20 year old blonde with a sweet face and firm ass. Great attitude! She loved doggy style and an occasional good smack on the ass!. Mr. Deviant took some pictures of his girl (carol)…otherwise it was the usual experience… GREAT!!
We dined at a place called Cara crab something… strangely they don’t have much crab on the menu, just some deep fried appetizers. We did eat a delicious seafood stew called Moqueca which came in a thick broth and had huge pieces of shrimp, lobster, sea bass, octopus and squid. Served with white rice…. Delicious! Dinner for 3 with dark beers and caiperana was $R280.
Then it was a short wobble back to the room for an early (11:30PM) night – tomorrow we tour Rio.
The following morning, El Gordo suffered an accident in the bathroom. He cut his balls while shaving! Let me explain:
El Gordo believes that a woman really appreciates a set of freshly shown balls. A woman appreciates that you took the time to make sure she doesn’t spend her valuable spare time flossing with his unkempt pubes. She’s more likely to take the entire nutbag in her mouth and generally spend more time down there if you make it nice for her.
Unfortunately, this particular morning, El Gordo got a little too careless with his Mach III razor and had to spend some extra time holding toilet paper against the self-inflicted wound on his nutbag.
Breakfast followed the personal hygiene fiasco at My Pateica. There were only a few working girls at that hour and the mood was decidedly quiet. We had steak, egg and cheese sandwiches which were okay, and at Noon we began our tourist sightseeing.
First we visited Sugar Loaf. Sugar Loaf is basically two huge mountains which afford a view of Rio from the highest point available. There’s an arial tram which takes you from the base station to the lower part of the mountain, and then another that takes you from there to the top. It’s much colder and windier in the heights than it is on the beach, by a good 30 degrees F or so. A nice break from the heat and humidity, and a beautiful view to enjoy..
Our driver than took us through the Tijuca National Forest, en route to Corcovado. The rainforest was pretty but it wasn’t the Amazonian experience we had expected. We did not see any exotic animals or birds. The forest’s claim to fame is that it had been turned from a forest into a coffee plantation in the latte 1800’s and has since been returned to a natural preserve…pretty but nothing extraordinary.
Corcovado, the tall statue of Christ which watches over Rio, was fogged in! Yes, Jesus couldn’t see past the clouds to all of the sin below him. Quick, let’s do something bad while he’s not watching! The fog was so thick that we could only get small glimpses the statue as the clouds went by. I took a picture of myself posing like the Corcovado statue to share with everybody back home.
As with the soccer game, we used a private car and driver for the day. This is far superior to a bus tour and not at all expensive by US standards, about $40USD each.
Following the day’s sightseeing, El Gordo and Akira were out of commission for awhile and took a nap. However Mr. Deviant went to Monte Carlo and found a tall dancing girl, Alicia, who at only 20 years old could shake her ass oh so perfectly.
Mr. Deviant met up with us back at the room for dinner. We had planned to hit the strip clubs (boites) on Via Princessa Isabel, and grab dinner first at Mab’s. Unfortunately nature intervened…
But first, a note about taxicabs in Rio. We made the mistake this time of getting into a situation where the driver quoted us a price to our destination and did not use the meter. This was a rip-off and we vowed never again. It’s not the money, it’s the principle. He ended up charging more than 2 times what the meter would have read. The next time this situation happened we threatened to exit the can and the meter went on. Fucking magic!
But I digress. Food at Mab’s was excellent. El Gordo highly recommends the crab appetizer which is like a huge crab cake served in an open clam shell. We also had some interesting dishes including a hunter’s stew with goat (tastes like lamb) and some seafood and chicken. We dined outside on the patio and felt the cool evening breeze turn into a light rain, then a shower, then a full on lightening storm with fast winds. Needless to say we got soaked! We finished our drinks inside, paid and sloshed our way to a cab and then home for the night. So much for the strip clubs .
Tuesday morning, and day six of our trip. Mr. Deviant suggested we visit a juice bar, (juices are called succos) for breakfast. The juice bar serves many fresh squeezed tropical juices, such as xxx and xxx, along with pineapple, mango, orange, etc. They also serve basic sandwiches, burgers, etc. The food and drinks are really good and really cheap. I had 2 juices: pineapple and acerola (cherry), and a pretty good cheeseburger (beats McDonald’s any day) for $R10. Akira and Mr. Deviant had similar meals. I love the juice bars and they will be our breakfast for the rest of trip.
After brunch we did some shopping for Cuban cigars, booze and incidentals, and then came back to the room to drop off Akira so that he could get some work done.
El Gordo and Mr. Deviant headed to the Centaurus Therma at 4:00 in the afternoon. Centaurus is more expensive than the other thermas, and you pay up front $R290 for your 40 minutes with a girl and admission. Drinks and food are extra and charged separately upon your exit.
The moment you enter the club a girl will try to latch onto you and accompany you to the locker room to help you get undressed and into your robe. Ditch her. It’s an attempt at a hard sell. There’s 85 girls on staff and you should take your time and pick the one you want.
El Gordo was not happy with the quality of the talent in the disco and decided to take a sauna and a shower. Mr. Deviant stayed in the disco and bided his time. The price at this therma is high and we expected the quality of the girls to be reflected. What we saw upon entry was not the “A” team.
Fortunately about an hour later the better talent arrived. I won’t say that they were better than the girls at L’Uomo, but at least there were some stars in the lineup
The Facilities were the best kept and had the most to offer of the three thermas we visited. However, that alone wasn’t worth the additional price, IMHO.
Ultimately I banged Kate, a 22 year old, slender, willowy, dark haired lass with tiny tits and a magnificent ass. Kate said that she was studying to be a Judge some day. I offered to show her my briefs, but the joke was lost on her ‘-)
Mr. Deviant had taken some vitamin V and decided to go for a double feature. His first girl Monica was a fresh faced 18 YO cutie, who has learned passable English after 4 months as an employee – all from her customers! Pretty good. She’s studying law also, BTW.
Less than an hour later, Mr. Deviant was back in the game with a hot tall blonde named Lillian. Lillian spent time ministering to Mr. Deviant’s little friend and drinking her Smirnoff Ices (she drank 4 of them). Then it was off to the room for more boom boom.
One interesting side note: we found that the girls at all of the thermas really have a thing for Smirnoff Ice and for Red Bull drinks. I have no idea why. I guess part of it is that they are so expensive for native Brazilians to buy. Go figure!
After the spa, we visited a local supermarket to pick up some bottled water and other goodies, and found many familiar brands on the shelves. Don’t bother packing over the counter medicines or drinks. They have pretty much anything you could want for sale in the markets. We also spotted some truly strange tropical fruits and some great looking meats and sausages. You can’t take them home with you, but you can enjoy the fruit and nuts there.
We met up with Akira at Case De Fejoda for dinner. . It is in walking distance of Centaurus. This place serves the traditional Brazilian dish, which is basically a meat stew over rice and black beans. It’s quite tasty. Dinner for 3 with cocktails and appetizers was $R130. This is definitely a tourist spot and while the food was good and the portions huge, we all agreed that we’d prefer a good churascaria any day.
The late part of the evening was spent watching the “help” going into Help and doing some souvenir shopping. We picked up, among other things, some shellacked and mounted piranha fish (R20), and some beautiful bird statues hand carved out of colorful stones (R16). We retired to our room for some television (The Simpsons dubbed in Portugese) and sleep. Tomorrow we go shopping at the mall.
Wednesday started with juices and cheeseburgers at the sucos bar again. We went to the bank to pull out more cash. It appears that at least one day a week there is a special line for seniors, pregnant mothers, etc. Today we ended up in the wrong line! God, I love banking in this country!
We took a cab to the shopping mall Rio Sul, 4 stories of basically every US mall you’ve ever been to, with a few exceptions:
1) All of the clothing stores have hot young girls who follow you around, show you clothes, and try to sell them to you.
2) All of the female mannequins have nipples, some puffys, and all of the male mannequins have huge packages in front!
The prices for some of the clothes are good, although beware of the quality of some and also look for fakes. The other prices when converted from Reals to USD are no better than retail in the US.
There is no shortage of hot hot hot sales girls all over the mall. Mr. Deviant feels that it’s worth the trip just for the free show
After the mall we caught a beer at the hotel and a snack. Mr. Deviant did his usual ¼ of a Viagra and we proceeded to the thermas….
Today we went back to Monte Carlo. Mr. Deviant, El Gordo and Akira all attended…and today we brought along El Gordo’s digital camera!
Mr. Devaint had previous gotten the okay from management to bring a camera into the crib with a girl, as long as she was okay with it. Surprisingly, many of them are fine with it, and even enjoy posing for the camera!
El Gordo was the first to choose a date for the afternoon, a 25 year old thin brunette named Susie. Susie got El Gordo’s attention at the bar by grinding her ass into his crotch until he got hard, and then grabbing his hardon with her ass cheeks! Needless to say, El Gordo was impressed! Susie was very happy to pose in her little lingerie and did plenty of playboy style poses. She then announced no more pictures and put El Gordo’s cock into her mouth! Needless to say, the rest of the 40 minutes was spent doing the nasty in several positions until The El Gordo Load was unleashed!
El Gordo returned to the disco to find both of his friends gone. Akira had gone for a sauna, while Mr. Deviant had bedded a young lady named Joyce. Somehow Mr. Deviant misunderstood that she was into having her picture taken, and he did not wait for the camera. She was disappointed that there was no photo shoot happening! Mr. Deviant sez to think of her as the insanely cute girl next door type, with a perfect 19 year old body!
All 3 guys met back up in the disco and Akira decided to take a swing with Joyce and he brought the camera along with him. He got lots of good pix and reported an excellent time with her.
Mr. Deviant, being the Viagra freak that he is, decided to bed another young lady while Akira was doing his thing. Mr Deviant’s girl, Ludmilla, had German and Italian parents and was as Caucasian as anyone from Europe. There’s always an interesting mix of girls who run the gamut from white to African/Indian. El Gordo decided to go for a professional massage to pass the time.
After returning to the disco, Mr. Deviant talked with Joyce about doing a threesome lesbian party the next day, and they set a time to do so.
The Therma owner approached us upon our exit and wanted to make sure we had a good time. He offered to let us keep our luggage at the club on our final day if we wanted to party before leaving for the airport! Try getting this kind of service anyplace else in the world.
Dinner was once again at our favorite churascaria, and our favorite waiters remembered us from the previous evening. We got even better service than before, and dinner for 3 with drinks and dessert was $R90!
Thursday morning started once again at the juice bar, followed by a trip to the bank to recharge. I decided to see about getting my hands on some valiums for the trip home. I had hoped that they could be purchased OTC without a prescription, but to no avail. However, the pharmacy hooked me up with a cool doctor who spoke English and I got a prescription. Valiums cost $USD10 for 60 tabs.
Mr. Deviant, sensing his whoring time rapidly coming to a close, left for the Therma at 2:3o. it opens at 3, so I am sure he was in before most of the girls even showed up! He planned to spend the entire day there.
Akira and I met up and went to Ipanema beach to buy Cuban cigars and liquor. We also did some more Also did souvenier shopping for piranhas, rock sculptures, shot glasses, etc.
We met with Mr. Deviant at 8pm, and decided to have a little fun with him. El Gordo waited behind for about half an hour, and Akira told him that El Gordo got arrested for trying to buy Valium! ;-) We had him going for a good 20 minutes, then El Gordo arrived and spun a wild tale about being bailed out by the US Consul, etc.
The next 4 hours were spent at the therma. Mr. Deviant and Akira managed to get some more pictures of the girls doing the nasty Mr. Deviant did two 40 minute sessions with Joyce and Mariana, then did another with some chick that El Gordo was too drunk to remember. Akira and I each found a girlfriend for an hour and got our nasty on.
Dinner was at Mab’s. This time we didn’t get rained on ;-) We retired about 2am
Friday was our last day and we needed to maximize therma time. We grabbed breakfast at one of the many restaurants on Avenida Atlantica and took our time smoking cigars and checking out the street talent
When the opening time had arrived we walked to a final session at Monte Carlo. We were the first people in at 3:00 when they unlocked the doors. Mr. Deviant partied with one girl and then headed back to the hotel bell desk and off to the airport.
Akira and I stayed until about 6:30. I lived out a lifelong fantasy and had a threesome with Anna from the previous day and her girlfriend Helena. They got down with some lesbian action with Helena eating out Anna’s pussy while I fucked her from behind. Akira hooked up with his friend Joyce again for a farewell fuck and suck
We stayed around and had drinks with the girls until we had to leave for airport. During this time I managed to teach my new friends some English words. They were particularly interested in body parts. We started out with lips, nose, hair, cheek… then eyes. Anna looked confused, pointed to her ass, and said, “eyes?”?
It took awhile, but I finally got her to see the difference between “eyes” and “ass”. They wanted to know what an anus was called. She asked me this by pointing to her pussy and said “pussy”, then to her anus. I said “ass-hole”. Both girls tried it a couple of times, and then they has mastered it, they began calling each other “asshole” and laughing hysterically.
Regrettably, Akira and I had our own flight to catch, and we bid the girls goodbye and headed for the airport.
Latitude, thanks for your report, it was a good read.
I have never encountered that R$120 airport fee you mentioned. Can you elaborate which airport (Rio or Sampa) and where (at the check in desk, or at the immigration where they stamp your passport?). Were you given a receipt or ticket?
On the subject of airlines, it would be a good thing if TAM ends up taking out Varig. I have tried all the different airlines in Brazil and found TAM to be the best of them. VASP is probably the worst, flights always delayed. Gol is a good little airline, but... It's fares were once cheap, but no longer. In some cases they are not even competitive with VASP or Varig.
Anyway, sounds like you had an awesome time in Rio, and you hit some good places.
I will be arriving from London, England on Thursday 12th Aug, this week for 1 weeks stay in Rio. I'm coming on business, but have set aside Friday (13th) for the finer points of Rio.
If anyone wishes to enjoy Rio with me, please PM me. I have been to Rio a few times, so know the places.
Thanks in advance,
On the subject of Brazilian airlines, TAM is a great way to fly!
In 2003, I flew from Rio to S.P. on TAM at about 11 a.m. - got a hot chicken lunch and all the red wine I wanted to drink - for free - on the 50 min flight. Then caught a 1:15 pm flight to Foz do Iguacu - and got a hot steak lunch and all the red wine I wanted to drink for free on the 2 hour flight! And yes, I was flying in coach on a Brazilian airpass, so it was pretty cheap.
Plus the flight attendents were all young, beautiful and spoke a minimum of 3 languages. They were all at least at the level of the Centaurus garotas, and most were several steps up from them. Only bad thing is that Brazilian domestic flights tend to be multiple stop milk runs - land in one airport, load passengers, on to the next airport, repeat over and over again all day long. So, the odds of actually hooking up with one of these flight atttendents is probably less than zero.
Website is www.tamairlines.com.
No brasil, si voce fala portugues, www.tam.com.br
GOL used to be the really inexpensive option. Various garotas have told me that they fly GOL if they go back to visit family in their home towns. Lately however, GOL's prices seem to be approximately that of TAM's/VARIG's(at least on their website).
Hey Gents.
Leaving for Rio on Friday from NYC. Will be staying at the Rio Copacabana! Was just wondering if this hotel is girl friendly. I beleive it is a 3 star hotel. Any info would most definately be appreciated.
Bango Cheito
08-10-04, 05:41
Guys please keep general info in the general info section!
I went to L'uomo for the second time yesterday night. Compared to Friday's crowd there were less girls but the same amount of guys. About half the girls there I recognized from friday.
I was approached by Luamar, tall, gorgeous, deep voice. She said she was completa but wouldnt even let me touch her butt. I passed.
I talked to some girl named Karla next. She had a hot body but a face a little too much like Popeye for my tastes.
I ended up settling on Fernanda, a super hot little Bahian girl. Normally I like em thick and big-assed like the locals do but Fernanda was really banging. She wasn't completa but excellent GFE with BBBJ to CIM , DATY and asian. Her backdoor was really ticklish. Also excellent DFK.
These girls deserve oscars for their acting job making you think they are in love with you. Also, Brazilian poon tastes like fresh fruit. Must be the diet down here.
Tomorrow, 4x4 and hopefully some big bunda!
Exec Talent
08-10-04, 21:35
Awhile back I mentioned that I took offense to a post of another member. What was read into my post was that I was somehow supporting overpaying. So that it didn't turn into a flame war, I let the dust settle.
My offense was actually at the attitude that the poster had toward women. I do not feel I overpay, however, I do always treat women with the utmost respect.
The issue of overpaying however did bring something to mind. Why is it that people who will pay $300+ for an hour of an average escort's time in the US will complain about paying $100 for a GFE in Rio who will spend the night?
Periodically posters on other boards will comment on pricing and they are quickly shut down with that is the market. Who says? Maybe we need to take the same attitude expounded by several here. Offer the US escort $100-150 and expect a true GFE.
BTW, having traveled all over the world, I have found that being a BFE and paying (tipping) slightly above market rates does have its rewards. The problem with market rates, however, seems to be in the US and not Brazil.
Bango Cheito
08-11-04, 02:11
Today we went to 4x4. We're definitely planning to go back tomorrow as we both feel that the locals are right and 4x4 kicks the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of L'uomo.
4x4 is much bigger has more rooms more variety and a way better selection. My friend had a dupla with a white girl and a chocolate garota and I had the twins.
I totally dug the twins and I thought they were worth the money. I mean, come on guys, they're TWINS, they're gorgeous, they're TWINS, they're both completa, they're TWINS, they have great sexy asses and long hair, they're TWINS, they make out with and go down on each other! Where on earth are you possibly gonna top that experience??
My friend keeps getting the terma girls throwing phone#s at him possibly because he can pop 4 times in a hour. I thought I was doing well with twice!
Some people who adhere to the (white) American ideal of beauty might prefer the Copa places because this is how they are setup. I prefer women of all shapes and sizes because I like em in all shapes and sizes and like to choose based on my mood.
Has anybody been to the local places like Villa Mimosa or the cheap downtown massage places recently? Safety problems? Prices? Quality?
I am planning my next trip to Rio and do not want to spend all my time in copa but see the places where the locals go. I am on budget too. I hope to get along with my spanish.
My other question is how much is a flight to Bogota about from Rio?
Regards Kuranyi
CBGBConnisur
08-11-04, 17:25
"I've never figured out why anyone would even CARE if a third-world 'ho thinks you "have class" or not. I understand perfectly well that many men have been emasculated by decades of domination by bitchy American/European females. I realize that fear of rejection is at the heart of a lot of this silly overpaying nonsense. However, I strongly believe that these guys should try to use the Rio experience as a way to work through their phobias rather than giving in to them."
American women are definitely domineering, most Canadian as well as British women are the same but to a lesser degree. I've spent a lot of time in Europe, most women on the continent are nothing like those in the US, in fact, its pretty easy to find women in continental Europe, especially with the HUGE influx of women from Eastern Europe and elsewhere.
Cash Works
08-11-04, 19:52
Latitude & Cachorro (you Dog!),
The fee Latitude is talking about is probably the Airport tax. Every international flight I've taken over the last 20+ years has had one, but most of the time, it is included with the price of your ticket, but in some countries, the travel agencies don't include it in the ticket price and you have to pay it separately before boarding the plane (there should be an annotation somewhere on the ticket where they itemize various sums of money - airport tax is usually around USD $30-40). In places where I've had to pay the airport tax separately, they would usually stamp my ticket and/or boarding pass - don't think I ever got a separate receipt.
CW
I've had the twins before and they were alot of fun, even had them come to my apartment before they started at 4X4. They must have just started all the bi-sexual stuff, they werent doing that before.
Exec Talent,
I agree with treating people with respect and tipping, but overpaying is not respectful, in fact, in a way, it is insulting to the locals. It also makes them think you have no brain, because you give away money you didn´t have to.
Also not everyone on this board would dream of paying US$300 an hour, why do you think brazil is so popular.
I agree that prices and service are awful in the US, and you are right we should offer less and expect more. The problem there is that the US market is a product of the US culture, (purtian sexual values and a business mind set) the good thing about the Brazilian market is that it is a product of a different culture (more into having a good time than making money and less sexual hang ups).
I know a girl Lana (anal backwards), stunning looking, works in 4x4, she does porn videos mulitiple shot (greek, CIM etc) for R$800. Why pay R$400 at Help!!
Anyway will post details of my Terma tour later, off to Rio Antigo now :-)
Bango Cheito --
I'm a Big Bunda man as well, and was glad to hear your post about 4 x 4. How much did the Dupla run there? I plan to be down Sept 9th, and will have to add this to my "to do" list. How is it if you don't speak much Portuguese (limited Espanol)? So woud you rate L'uomo a close second at least?
Bango Cheito -- If you like big bunda Rio Antigo is the place for you, see my 11 Aug entry:
Langer Thermas tour!
2 Aug Mon: Luomo - Dayana, slim black girl, excellent, licked my ass, greek, BBBJ, Total inc drinks R$216
3 Aug Tue: Monte Carlo, Maya, sexy bunda nice, brown skin, young, great greek, BBBJ Total inc professional massage R$271
4 Aug Wed: 4x4, Babalu, white blonde big big tits, not so good, BBBJ, tit fuck, total R$228
5 Aug Thur: Luomo, Fabanna, dark hair, big tits, again she was not so good, should have gone back to Dayana total R$381, there was a big party on in luomo that day and I went crazy buying drinks etc.
6 Aug Fri: Therma 65: Jeanna, white nice boby, ok place not as good as 4x4 which is near, still some nice girls. total R$251
7 Aug Sat: Luomo, Mel, tall slim with perfect body, but a poor performance. Total R$201
8 Aug Sun: Luomo, Cluadia, small brown girl, small tits, nice eyes, excellent shag, greek, BBBJ, CIM + face. total R$236
9 Aug Mon: 4x4 - Fernanda, blonde, small tits, big big bunda, great greek, BBBJ, CIM. excellent girl. total R$222
10 Aug Tue Monte Carlo, Laura, black, long hair, looked good, very poor performance. total R$271 - she hit me for drinks and cigs
11 Aug Wed: Rio Antigo, big bunda paradise, all the girls had bigs bundas, selected Laya, white, small tits, great greek she was shouting and took the full lenght hard in her butt, she also did a great rim job on my arse with the licking total R$201.
To be continued another 16 days to go :-))))
Of all these Rio Antigo has the best sauna, steam room, showers etc, T65 the worst.
Thanks to all of you fellow mongers, muito bem! After two weeks I finally recovered from my first trip to Rio. Wow!
Thanks to all of your tips and special thanks to an American guy named Don who helped solo guys like myself have the heavenly time of their lives. Anyone who is ever concerned about going to Rio either by yourself or with others, feel free to pm me, and I'll get you in touch with Don.
Don't want to repeat the same info everyone else is saying but here's a few new thoughts. Although I had "two a days keep the doctor away" for 8 days with the hottest girls I've ever had in my life, there were a few 10s that stood out above the rest and were firm on $300R. Due to many of your advice, I kept true and stood firm at $200R. But now I regret it in the worst way. I never enjoyed what their pussies tasted like and everything else about them for just a measley extra $33US. And since they were swooped away every night early on, I am assuming many people out there are unfortunately giving in and paying the $300R.
Now that I am back in LA, I regret it immensely that I could had enjoyed them for such extra peanuts. Nevertheless, I realized many of my fantasies thanks to all of you!!!!!
I've already made plans to go back for 2 weeks in January. I am going to learn Brazilian Portuguese. (BTW- does anyone know of anything better than Pilmlser). And I can't wait to see what high season is like in Rio, considering I went there during their winter and still had the time of my life.
I've got a ton of fantastic digital pix that I'll send when I get more time. Here's a shot of a girl I met at Franks, just turned 18. I am almost 100% certain it was her first time to "do business". Till then, a te lago.
Langer,
10 days, roughly 800 dollars US. Translates to 80 dollars per day.
Seems like great math to me. Where in the US can you get THIS happy for 80 bucks a day.
You gottal love Rio!
S
Biggie Smalls
08-12-04, 15:35
Gentleman,
I will be bringing a buisness partner/friend to Rio next Sat. & Sun. I am living in SP and know it well. I know that Sat. & Sun. are not good nights for mongering here. But I expect Rio to be different, since it caters to more tourist as cliental. Am I wrong? Can I excpect the termas, Help, and others to be open and jumping or not on the weekend?
Any advice is appreciated and if you will be around next weekend (I thinks its 8/21 & 22, Sat. & Sunday) feel free to PM me and we can hook up.
Biggie Smalls
Greetings fellow Rio lovers and mongers,
I am back in Rio, this time for a 3-month stay. I´m living with my Brazilian girl friend, in her place, so I have to be kind of cautious while mongering. But the Brazilian girls needn´t worry; my rod and my staff will still be there to comfort them.
Day before yesterday I went to Monte Carlo, largely because I received a promotional email discount (more about this later). I got there at 3:45 in the afternoon, having chosen to go early because of the GF problem. The advantage of going this early is that there is no competition; in fact, there was only one other man in the boite area, and he was occupied talking up a garota. The disadvantage is that there are also very few girls; most of them show up later. The girl at the front desk told me that the optimal time to show up is 6:00PM--most girls and fewest men.
Anyway, since I wasn´t in a mood for dallying I picked the most attractive girl there, a 20-year old morena (nut brown complexion) named Laura and went to a suite. Laura was small but had a great little body that proved to even outshine its promise when she was naked and skin touched skin. It took no time at all for my nether friend to stand at attention. Laura has luscious, sizable, and perfect natural breasts and a luscious ass. She kisses well, thrusting her tongue in and out, and nibbled and lightly bit my lips very erotically--it was actually this that made junior stand at attention. I explored her body thoroughly with my hands and mouth, ending up DATY.
Then it was her turn to pleasure me. She bit my nipples, then teased me a bit down below, long enough to let me think she wasn´t going to give head. She tongued my balls in the most sensitive spot, then caressed the underside of my cock with the tip of her tongue. But I needn´t have worried; she eventually slid my cock into her mouth and took it deep, giving me a first rate BBBJ. She then suggested 69, to which I agreed. When I finally couldn´t stand it any longer, she put a condom on me and we fucked, first missionary, then cowgirl. I was pleasantly surprised to find that Laura has a really tight pussy, which made the experience even more pleasureable. She was fantastic at cowgirl, I mean a real dynamo. She was on her feet, not her knees, and squatted onto my cock; I´ve found that this position, i.e. on the feet rather than knees, allows for better penetration, but a girl has to be in pretty good shape to manage it. And Laura was. She slid her tight pussy up and down on my cock, stroking it from the base to the tip. She even managed the fine art of sliding her pussy far enough up that I almost fell out, then shoved it back down to the base. I helped out with my own pelvic thrusts, which weren´t really necessary. The upshot of all this was an orgasm that was truly volcanic. I shot my load in wave after pulsating wave, then just lay there spent while Laura licked my balls again. BTW, I asked Laura, for the purposes of this report, if she does anal, but she says it is the one thing she doesn´t do.
Current prices at Monte Carlo are as follows:
For 40 minutes, including small cabin, called simple: entrance R$50.00, room R$50.00, girl R$120.00, total R$220.00.
For one hour, including a suite with toilet, shower, and jacuzzi: entrance R$50.00, suite R$70.00, girl R$180.00, total R$300.00.
Note that these prices are in reals; to figure the price in USD, divide by 3 and you´ll see how cheap it really is. Note: the girl must be paid for in cash, but everything else may be paid by credit card.
A final note and a warning: it´s a good idea to get on the emailing list of either, or both, Monte Carlo or Solarium, which have the same ownership. If you get to Rio frequently, you will get discounts to either place periodically by email.
Here´s the warning: on this recent visit to Monte Carlo, I took my email discount with me and presented it when I went in, which is what it says you have to do. The discount says your cabine is free, for a total discount of R$50.00. It seems, however, that they take this very literally. I chose a suite, not a cabine, so they wouldn´t honor the discount. They said it´s good only if you choose a cabine. I argued, unsuccessfully, that they should just deduct the cost of a cabine, R$50.00, from the total, but they wouldn´t do it. At least they gave the discount back to me, so I´m planning on using it today.
This place isn´t as good as Lúomo or Solarium; the suites are not as well appointed as those other two places. I wouldn´t go there if I didn´t have the discount. On the other hand, Laura was fantastic. I´ll report later on the cabine, and another garota.
Lorenzo
Sunset Strip
08-12-04, 19:02
I am confused guys! The current prices people are listing for Monte Carlo seem a bit high.
I thought you did not have to pay the entrance fee if you took at least one girl to a room.
Is this fact true only at Luomo? Or was this automatic discount a thing of the past (I was last down in Jan. and got the discount)?
Last, I am on the Monte Carlo mailing list, so do I have to print out the discount email and show it to them?
TJ
El Mujerista
08-12-04, 23:03
Lorenzo,
Great FR -- it made me miss Rio dearly, though for some reason I've never had particularly good luck at Monte Carlo.
She was fantastic at cowgirl, I mean a real dynamo. She was on her feet, not her knees, and squatted onto my cock; I´ve found that this position, i.e. on the feet rather than knees, allows for better penetration, but a girl has to be in pretty good shape to manage it.I believe this position is commonly referred to as "Asian cowgirl." One of my favourites, indeed.
Happy Hunting,
EM
Langer -
Is Rio Antigo in Copacabana, or in the downtown area? Sounds like my kinda spot! I hadn't heard of that one until now. Gotta add it to the list!
Lorenzo - Do you still happen to have the email addy's for monte carlo or solarium?
Thanks,
mj
Let´s change the pricing at Help. I´m serious, if all of us who are reading this forum, and frequent help start saying R100 every time, and stand firm when at Help, we can lower the prices there. I´ve been to Help 4 times already and always offered R100. I´m just a travelling backpacker and can´t afford R300, so I am just offering what I can afford. When you consider there is also taxis, drinks, and the hotel its all very expensive, and R100 is still very good for the girls by any standard.
I don´t speak Portuguese, I am just firm on the R100, even if its a girl I really like. When I offer R100, usually after the girl says US$100, they always say no early in the night. She immediatly goes down to a minimum of R200, or R150 (take note), but I still say R150 is too expensive. But I float around talking to a lot of girls. Usually later in the night there is a taker and 3 of the 4 times I left with a girl and had great all night (and sometimes all day) experiences each time. If the girl isn´t already taken by 3AM, usually she will be more inclined to accept since she will most likely either leave alone, or will look for business on the street at Avenida Atlantica for the same price.
It should also be said that there is no correlation between the price you pay and the experience you get, many other experienced mongers have said before and its true as stone. You can have great experiences paying very little, and horrible experiences paying a ton, and vice versa. It all depends on you and the girl.
So come, lets collectively change Help, 100R
100R
100R
100R
100R
stick firm, don´t waiver, use those balls between your legs and don´t be afraid of rejection. It´s your money, you worked hard for it and there is no reason to squander it.
Hot To Cool
08-13-04, 05:17
MSJ44,
Rio Antigo is in the Gloria section of town, sort of between Copa and Centro closer to Centro, in between Cinelandia and Gloria metro stops.
Hot To Cool
Lorenzo:
Did your Laura had teeth braces? IF so then I can confirm that she did anal for me on 10 Aug. Maybe I put her off anal forever or maybe it is different girl!!
MSJ44:
Rio Antigo is at
Rua Joaquim Silva, 2 y 4 - Tel. (55-21) 2224-9591
Glória - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil
They have a website.
Just back from Solarium had a great time there, loads of good looking girls, will post details later.
Tomorrow back to 4x4
Bango Cheito: What do the Twins look like they sound to good to be true, you luckly guy.
El Mujerista
08-13-04, 22:57
MSJ44,
You can send e-mail to Solarium and Monte Carlo from their respective websites:
http://www.solarium.com.br
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br
Go to the "Contato" section.
Happy Hunting
EM
Biggie Smalls - I have never been to Sao Paulo but I do know that Saturday is a good day in Rio, if its a nice day then the beach will be packed with garotas, the termas are all open and Help will be packed more than any other night. Sunday, beach will be good again and only some termas will be open(Solarium/Laumo) and Help will be open but somewhat more mellow than Saturday night. Then of course you have all the boites off of Princessa Isabelle near the Meridian, they will be open and they are good choices too. If you can get there Friday night too it will also be a good night at Help. Have a good time.
As Lorenzo noted here earlier, getting on the email list for Monte Carlo and Solarium ( form you fill out on website)will get you a $50R discount for Cabine's right away. just adds a few more bucks in your pocket for drinks, etc. if you were headed there anyway.
Thanks Young & Restless and El Mujerista for the web site addy's!
MJ
Latina Addict
08-14-04, 01:52
Here Here HAVRUM, 100 R's is a great price for pussy in Brazil, and I am on your bandwagon dude. I actually get off telling the expensive c____ to fuck off (nicely) at their huge asking prices.
To give you an ideaof prices in Rio, I recently consulted an orthopedic surgeo about tennis elbow, and his consultation that lasted 20 minutes cost me 60 R's! Yes, less than 20 bucks, for a surgeon. ergo, pussy at 100 US is uncalled for, and extreme, and of no use to any of us trying to have reasonable fun in Rio. Ask any taxi driver how hard they work for their 500 to 1000 R's they make net every month and manage to raise a family and have a relatively new car.
Just another man's opinion.
Latina Addict
Monte Carlo was a pleasant experience for me during my trip which just ended yesterday (oh well). The facility was up to Cantaurus/L'uomo standard and girls were mostly 6-7's (most of them are attractive; for me 8 is really attractive and 9 and 10s are for model quality).
Their standard room was tiny (a tad bigger than L'uomo's) and the bar area was well done. Couple of ok looking ones tried to get my attention but I wasn't in the mood just yet.
Eventually, I went with a girl from Porto Alegre who was really tall and light skinned. She died her hair black which made her kind of stand out amongst fake blondes with tan skins. She gave me a strong GFE performance and I was very impressed.
FYI, Monte Carlo do not have a sign outside which makes you wonder whether you are at the right address. You should see a door with a couple of security guys outside. Ovearll, Monte Carlo is a must for Rio terma lovers.
Bango Cheito
08-14-04, 05:54
In response to the responses:
The twins both had braces, long fairly curly hair almost to their butts, light yellow skin, big doe-eyes and big-ass bundas just the way I like em. Hips big enough to stand on.
They told me if I wanted both of them and I wanted them to do each other I had to take the Sultan's Suite. I'm sure they could have been bargained down though; I actually wanted to see the Sultan's Suite anyways.
Should NOT have done it with 2 girls though as it was R350 EACH! However I'm not complaining; it was a once in a lifetime experience and they were VERY forthcoming.
They also offered a R500 long-stay at our hotel or the motel of our choice. First they said 600 then went down to 500.
Bango Cheito
08-14-04, 06:00
We returned to 4x4 the following day. Had to blow the twins off this time but they went away when asked politely.
I had Timica or something like that, a taller kinda amazon-looking girl. I picked her because I had a good feeling. It was great to 69 with a tall woman as I'm tall myself and it's nice to not strain my neck!
We spent an hour in the cabine and I had two good pops, which is pretty good for me. I almost never use the term but this was a real GFE, with a little completinha thrown in!
As far as L'uomo vs 4x4; I've only ever been to the two places but just because I like 4x4 better, it doesn't mean I wasnt totally satifsied with L'uomo.
The tour guide who drove us back to the airport told me he actually prefers Centaurus and Villa Mimosa. This is a local Carioca who lives in the Zona Norte.
I really don't think anybody could go too far wrong with any of the termas. They are just too well set up for you. I don't even know why anybody would bother with anything else. Just make sure to verify if a girl is completa before you take her in the room. I don't think this is even necessary in 4x4; I believe they all have to be completa to work there. But it won't hurt to ask anyways.
Young & Restless
08-14-04, 13:24
Lorenzo,
Great report on Monte Carlo. I guess that I haven't given this place as much credit as it deserves. I had an excellent experience the last time that I went there. My intent behind going there was to see how little I could get away with spending, but also to sit in the waiting area until I convinced myself that I had found the best looking chica in the joint! There were some good-looking girls in there, but there were some that I really couldn't understand how they got a job there (w/ all of the competition anyway).
Willpower is tuff for me in the termas, so I sat my beer goggles aside and drank water the whole time. After about 30 - 40 minutes, I spotted an easy 8.5. Very nice European features and built like a brick shit house. She set down w/ me and I noticed a cotton swab w/ a band-aid on her arm. She told me that they have to be tested to work there. I was happy to know that, but I thought that it was a little tacky for a business to do something like that and send the girl back to work w/ the band-aid on her arm. Kinda like going to a nice restaurant and your waiter runs up to your table and says, "Sorry, I had to go to the pisser" while he's drying off his hands w/ a paper towel. Not really a big deal, but she ended up tearing it off of her arm.
I brought her back to one of those cabins that you mentioned in your report. At first glance, I wondered if I could even fit my penis inside this the damn thing. Man, those are small rooms!! The size of the room didn't matter once we both got on the bed. This girl was a total freak in the sack!! She was licking me places that haven't had tongue affection for quite a while! She wanted to do it doggie which is not my favorite position, but we went at it anyway. After I exploded, I laid down and she starts giving me a heavenly BBBJ. Once she got me hard, she assumes the doggie position again! I'm like.... DAMN!! I'm a little tired, but there is no possible way that I can turn that down. This session took a little longer than the first, but she did end up getting me off the second time too.
All in all, the bang for buck ratio was strongly in my favor! Thanks for the tip on getting a R$ 50 discount w/ the internet coupon. I don't think that Monte Carlo will ever be my favorite terma, but if you knock R$ 50 off of the price... man, that's hard to turn down!!
Nice report,
Y & R
Joe Francis - In answer to your question, Of course. But here is another question your sex addiction test can add: Do you post and read on the WSG?
Y&R: thanks for the kind words.
El Mujerista: thanks for clueing me in to "Asian cowgirl."
Langer: no, this Laura didn´t have braces. Probably a different girl.
MSJ44 and TJ Fannatic: Someone else already posted it, but just in case you missed it, Monte Carlo´s email address is www.termasmontecarlo.com.br. There is a link on their website to Solarium. In both cases, you fill out a short form to get on their email list. They will periodically send you emails providing a discount for a certain period. You need to print it out and present it at the front desk when you go in. As I said in my last post, be sure to get a cabine or they won´t honor it.
Update on Monte Carlo:
For a detailed report, see my previous post of 8/12/04, which includes current pricing. I went back to Monte Carlo day before yesterday, more out of stubbornness than anything, determined to get them to honor my discount, which they finally did. I really don´t like the place, so I was determined to spend as little time there as possible.
I arrived at 4:00 PM. Only one other man in the boite, and a handful of garotas, most of them plain looking, which probably explainswhy they were there so early, i.e., probably no one would pick them if there were better competition. I eyeballed the only one I thought was attractive and beckoned her to come over to me. She was a medium tall blonde named Kathleen. In spite of the English name, she was Brazilian and spoke only Portuguese. I wasted no time and asked her if she wanted to go to a cabine for 40 minutes, to which she readily agreed (of course). I was pleasantly surprised by the cabine, which had a huge bed, king size at least, but little else. I think I was lucky and got one of the larger cabines, because as I´ve read on her, most of them are cubbyholes.
Cutting to the sex, Kathleen has a trim, well-proportioned body, incluing medium sized natural breasts, which I proceeded to stroke, lick and suck. Like nearly all termas girls, her pussy was shaved nearly bare, with only a pencil-wide strip of black pubic hair left just above her crack. I proceeded to DATY for quite a while. I think I brought her to orgasm, but who ever knows with these girls. However, I think the fact that she wants me to stop and pulls my head away is a good indication that she really came, i.e., her clit is too sensitive to stand any more licking and sucking.
So I got on my back and got ready to let her pleasure me. Sorry to report, Kathleen is a lousy kisser and a lousy BBBJ giver. She didn´t open her mouth very wide when kissing and only put the tip of her tongue in my mouth. When I tried tothrust my tongue into her mouth, she didn´t get the hint and didn´t open her mouth any wider. She gave me a BBBJ, she wasn´t much better. She only took the tip into her mouth, but she licked the underside, which always gets me hot. She licked my balls only after I asked her to.
When it came to fucking, however, it was a different story. Whatever skills she lacked, she made up for once I got inside her. She is a passsionate, vigorous fucker. First she put a condom on me, then we started in missionary, then cowgirl, then reverse cowgirl, which is the position we were in when I shot my load. I haven´t done reverse cowgirl all that much, but recently I´ve come to discover that I really like it. It´s just like doing it doggy style, except that she does most of the work. My GF uses it a lot with me. With Kathleen, when we got to reverse cowgirl, she was at her most vigorous. She slid her pussy up and down the length of my cock, and there was enough freedom of movement to allow me to thrust, which was great when I exploded, because I was able to pump and pump into her while I was coming.
For the record, Kathleen does do anal, but says she will do it only with a condom. She offered me her ass, actually, but I declined. Anal just isn´t my thing. Another turnoff with Kathleen is that she does a lot of fake moaning, to the point that it got annoying. I like a GDP to be a good actress, but don´t overdo it. It´s like a bad actor overemoting a role. So for this reason, and because I love DFK and good BBBJ, I don´t think I would pick Kathleen again. In fact I don´t think I´ll go back to Monte Carlo again, unless I get another discount. L'uomo has always been my place.
The entire cost of the above was R$170, which included the R$50 discount. Without the discount, it would have been R$220.
Postscript: My live-in GF unexpectedly asked me to move out for a few days because her mother is visiting and she doesn´t want this old-fashioned lady to know she isn't a virgin, much less living with a gringo. So I'm staying at a hotel for about 4 days. Partly out of revenge and partly out of sheer laziness, I picked up a streetwalker named Joanna and took her back to my hotel. R$200 for 2 hours; I definitely overpaid, she wasn't worth it, I should have known better, so please no lectures. She's also a lousy lay. Avoid her--Joanna, about 27, blonde, a little on the buxom side, hangs around sidewalk cafes on Av. Atlantica that prostitutes don't usually frequent and starts by asking if she can sit with you, then asks if you'll buy her a cup of coffee. She even has her own business cards printed. Even Lorenzo has his weak moments. I should have told her to shove off. I´ll know better next time.
Signing off for now, brother mongers. Carry on!
Lorenzo
help is amazing, i'm addicted to that place. i like the fact that you never know what kind of experience you are going to get. each girl and each experience that i´ve had has been completely difference, with the only thing the girls having in common is that they are all sexual maniacs. here are some observations below.
first off, i find the girls in help to be average looking which is bad for brazil where there are beauties everyhwere. my standards aren´t very high when it comes to a girl´s looks, and i´m far more inclined to think of a girl as a 9 or 10 than most other guys. nevertheless the girls at help just aren´t that attractive. for example last night there must have been a couple of hundred girls. i scanned all the girls and i did not see one beauty i would give a 9 or 10. a small handful of sevens and eights, with most being 5 or 6. i´ve been to some places in sao paulo and porto alegre where half of the girls in the place, were 8-10. there was this one strip joint/night club in porto alegre that absolutely blew my mind. the girls were like these amazon goddesses, white, brown and black, tall, gorgeous babes with incredible bodies, asses, tits, faces, everything all offering an hour of bliss for 100r. there is nothing like those girls, or the girls in many sao paulo boliches, working at help as near as i can tell.
rio is kind of different than sao paulo and porto alegre. here the girls on the streets and beaches are beautiful, whereas in sao paulo and porto alegre most of the girls on the street are plain looking (i´m not talking about street walkers but everyday girls walking on the street). so one would expect to find rio´s places of prostitution decked out with hotties but for some reason they seem to have all plain looking girls. my theory for this is that a lot of the really hot girls have gone to work in europe or the us, or have rich boyfriends from the jet set crowd that frequent rio, etc.
nevertheless, even though the girls aren´t stunning, help is still amazing. all of the girls i encountered there are sexual maniacs. they love, love, love sex. this one girl slept with me all day and all night, and kept hounding me for more and more sex even though i was drained. another girl was insisting that i not use a condom, even though i insisted yes. all of the girls insisted on anal, some practically trying to force but my dick into their ass, but i don´t like anal and the girls were very dissapointed for that. another girl had an oral fixation like crazy, sucking every part of my body and dick forever. i kept trying to say that´s enough, gently pulling her head from my cock, but she refused to stop. her sucking was so hard and powerful, bending my dick at odd angles and often scraping her teeth against it, that it was more painful than pleasureful. she was the first girl that i saw at rio, and i hadn´t had an orgasm for some days, so when i came in her mouth it was like the explosion of mount st. helens in which she swallowed every drop. all of the other girls liked cim too. there were no objects to dfk, daty or anything else, its all on the menu at help.
these girls have a sexual zeal and passion unlike i´ve seen anywhere, far greater than in buenos aires. about half of the girls that i did in sao paulo and porto alegre were like this, but in help it seems like every single one is.
two other things about help girls is that they always sleep the night and usually will stay the next day, then accompanying you to the beach or whatever. the girls don´t ever seem to want to leave and it can be difficult and awkard trying to get them to leave so you can be alone. also the girls are very jealous. i change girls each time i go to help and when i run into past girls they are all extremely mad and jealous that i´m seeing other girls there.
also about help is that the place is extremely fun. its like any other night club, music, drinks, dancing, etc., except that a nightclub where everyone scores at the end of the night. guys and girls aren´t putting on airs, everyone just lets it all hang out.
also guys, remember, don´t pay more than 150r and try offering 100r which is what i paid every night. i was usually rejected from the girls that i found most attracted with my 100r offers, but each time i found a girl to my liking by the end of the night. offer 100r and stick firm. the more guys that do this, the more easier it will be for everyone as the girls won´t expect to get 100 us dollars (or more) from every bloke they see.
Havrum
You are definetely right when you speak about overpricing at Help. Unfortunately americans tend to overpay because they think about what the same would cost in the US. Please keep in mind that in the US the prostitution in general is one of the worst all over the world. This is not meant to be an attack to the US!
I only went there once because I did not find many beautiful girls and their price is ridicolous. I would never pay a girl 300Br$ or more for a ST session in a developing country. A brazilian would pay maybe 50Br$. It is no surprise if the service gets worse and the women spoilt.
Are you crazy by paying 200Br$ for a streetwalker?! Another one paid 700Br$ for 2 girls. Come on. Use your head instead your dick.
For me copa is just a big tourist trap now. An exception are the famous termas which have a set price for really beautiful girls.
Kuranyi
Hello guys
I'm coming to Rio in Jan of 2005. Has anyone used rioapartmentrentals.com (Gabriel) or telefonema.net (Decio) to rent an apartment? Or, does anyone have someone to recommend for apartments? Thanks in advance for you help.
BL
Sunset Strip
08-15-04, 20:39
i will be down next week. i will try to print out the monte carlo coupon and get them to honor it.
from what you guys are saying luomo has surpassed monte carlo in terms of service and quality. i remember two years ago, the opposite was true.
do any of you guys remember sapphire (isabel), the white girl (brunette) who worked in monte carlo two years ago? she spole english and had lived in nyc for awhile. she was really cool. if anybody has any info. on her i would appreciate it. i asked the people at monte carlo about her in jan. but everybody played dumb.
also, has anybody been to the miami sex shop/video store/peep show on avenida copacabana lately? i still have some tokens left and will file another report on it soon.
tj
Does any one know of a better way to learn Brazilian Portuguese than the Pimsler CDs? I have 4 months before I go back and want to speak at least on an intermediate level.
Thanks!
Please can some one give me a rough idea of how Sao Paulo compares to Rio?
Are the women as nice and as easy to find?
I shall be going to Buenos Aires and Caracas also.
As a third I was thinking of Columbia and maybe Brazil. I have been to Rio a few years ago and thought I might try some where else.
Thanks
Member #1927
08-17-04, 03:14
Hi,
Does anyone have info on the scene in Copa during the Festival do Rio BR international film festival. It appears to be happening the same time I'll be in Rio (Sept 23-Oct7.) The website says it draws about 180,000 people.
Does this festival cause prices to increase?
Here's the link to the festival:
http://www.whatsonwhen.com/partners/amadeus/viewevent.asp?id=80754
Thanks
Have any of you ever checked out the scene in downtown Rio?
I think we all know about the tourist areas of Ipanema and Copacabana, but I'm interested in the aread AWAY from the moron tourists who jack up the prices. I'm guessnig that, if it exists, the *****s downtown can be had for far less than near the beach.
Am I right?
I went to Termas L'Uomo night before last. I haven't been there in 13 months, and I'm happy to report that it hasn't changed a bit, except for one unfortunate change that has been mentioned here before, namely that it is necessary to pay for the girl in cash, although everything else can be charged on a credit card. This seems to be becoming standard practice in Rio's termas. I'll report on the latest prices below.
I got there about 7:30 on a Monday night, and it was packed. The bar area was thick with cigarette smoke, a real turnoff. There was a plethora of garotas, but also a plethora of men. I listened for English but didn't hear any. There were 3 Italians there, but everyone else seemed to be Brazilian.
I picked up a tall blonde named Samara (not sure of the spelling, but that's how it's pronounced). Now I really go for tall women, but I know everyone else doesn't. But if you like tall women, then you can't go wrong with Samara; she's expert at everything she does. She is just about six feet tall, blonde, medium sized natural breasts, pleasant personality, all of which provided a true GFE. She started DFKing me right in the bar, always a good sign, then reached under my robe to stroke my johnson. Unfortunately, there was a wait for a room, even for a cabine. The wait for the supersuite was 45 minutes, so I settled for a regular suite, which was only a half hour wait.
Samara is a profoundly good kisser, so we spent a good bit of time with me just holding her in my arms with our tongues intertwining, while I stroked her breasts, ass, and pussy lips. I inserted my middle finger inside her vagina as far as it would go, then rotated it. She didn't object. After we'd kissed enough, I had her lie on her back while I explored her body with my mouth, licking, sucking, and biting each breast, licking her navel, her inner thighs, tongueing the creases between her thigh and crotch, all of this culminating in DATY. I licked and sucked her clitoris extensively, stuck my tongue inside her vagina, then lay on my back to let her pleasure me.
She began by licking and sucking my nipples, then tongued my balls before sliding my cock into her mouth. She gave a great BBBJ, perhaps the best in memory. She took my uncircumcised cock in her mouth and began sucking it like a lollipop without retracting my foreskin. At first I wondered if she just didn't know any better, but it turns out she knew exactly what she was doing. In fact, for you intact men reading this, I suggest you try your next BJ this way, first with the foreskin unretracted, then retracted. It's like an enormous buildup when you don't pull it back right away. After she had sucked me very gently with the skin covering the head, she took it out, retracted my foreskin, then started to suck and lick with the head bare. The intensity of the pleasure was unbelievable, and I'm sure it was due to this buildup.
By this time I'm rock hard, so, sensing correctly that the moment was right, she unrolled a condom on my shaft and proceeded to mount me, Asian cowgirl style. I should have left well enough alone, because so far it was going great. But, I told her I wanted to get on top and we started fucking missionary style. Then I went soft. Damn! She sucked me till I got hard again, then I started to fuck her doggy style and went soft again. Damn again! By this time I figured it just wasn't my night to come inside her, so by mutual agreement I got back on my back and she started to suck again, BB, foreskin retracted. Well, gentlemen, I had no regrets. Her sucking was true ecstasy, and it lasted pretty much till the end of our one hour session. She had asked that I not CIM, so when I felt the moment impending, she pulled it out and brought me to orgasm manually. All in all, I recommend Samara wholeheartedly.
Here is the current price structure for L'Uomo. Entrance, R50. For cabine (small room, 40 minutes): room R45, girlR110. For regular suite (one hour): room R70, girl R150. For super suite (huge room, one hour--always the best option): room R80, girl R170. THe girl must be paid for in cash, everything else may be put on a credit card. BTW, when the bill comes, the charge will be listed as "Hugo's Bar," in case your wife peruses your bill.
For some reason my credit card bill came to only R105 for the entrance fee and the suite. It seems that they charged only R35 for the entrance fee. Of course, I didn't question it. I paid R150 in cash for Samara. The whole thing came to R255, or about US$85. Can you believe that? Rio rules!
Lorenzo
The entrance fee is discounted to R35 if you go with a girl to a cabina or suite.
I have been in Rio for about 6 weeks now. Although I am only mongering may be 4 or 5 times a week, I have yet to pay a street or a bar girl more than R$120 for short time. I usually don't want to be with these girls for more than 2 hours at a time. The price range I have mostly paid the girls here in Rio is from R$50 to R$120, most of which being closer to R$70 for one hour.
The girls usually start asking for about R$200 and believe me they alway come down dramatically in prices. I would recomend, don't just agree to the first price quoted always ask for a better price. As per service, I have had my best services mostly from the lower priced girls. The higher they ask for mostly they are more money hungary and wanting to go out of your room as fast as possible. Only exception is at the termas where the prices are fixed and the service is mind blowing.
On a side note, I have been to both Thailand (Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket) and Rio within this year for the purpose of mongering. I would say that on any given day Rio rules compared to Thailand. Especially for people from Indian back ground.
Rio Rules.
Asian Shark
08-19-04, 14:48
Hello Fellow Mongers
I am thinking of traveling to Rio for a week and noticed that Airline tickets were pretty expensive. Does anyone know which airline has the best flight price ??. I will be coming from East cost Washington DC area. I would appreciate any info you have.
Thank you
Asian Shark
Sunset Strip
08-19-04, 14:51
i visited the miami show peep show/video arcade on copacabana ave. yesterday. the number of girls is a little less, around 10. there is one blond, karina and two blacks/mulattas. the remainder are morenas. most have big butts but there is one short girl who has the american white girl type of body. it was fun to have her around for contrast.
as i and a few others have posted before you get 1 token (ficha) for 1 real. 5 tokens get you 2 minutes alone with a girl in a booth where you can feel her up and finger her wherever you want, including anally.
i tried to pick up on some of these girls but they all said no. this makes me think that they fired all of the old girls because i know that i banged most of them in my apartments over the last two years. i also used to drink beer with them in the booth (all big no no´s).
since the owner and the guys who work there know me, one of them took me across the street to a small therma. it was on the 11th floor of the building next to the mcdonalds.
there were about 5 girls. the best was this big butt, big breasted black chic. i did not get her because i let the brazilian guy who took me get her. it only cost r$30 for 20 minutes.
for a bit of low budget fun and a change of pace i would suggest visiting miami show and then stopping here to get a quickie (or longer).
later i went to mia petaca, got drunk, and picked up a mulatta who was very intelligent (though i got tired of her talking about 911, bush, and michael moore!). i only paid r$100 for all night.
overall, i am having a much better time here now then in jan. when prices were over the top (ugly girls demanded r$200, short time).
today i am going to miami show, mabs, mia pitaca.
tomorrow i am going to spend the day inside luomo and monte carlo.
tj
snowman66,
I taught myself Portuguese through a set of books and tapes which are exactly the same as those used by the Foreign Service Institute to train diplomats. They are available at www.multilingualbooks.com. Be forewarned, they are not cheap. A complete set of levels one and two will come close to US$500. And it takes a lot of time and hard work, but if you work at it, you will become reasonably fluent. All you'll have to do is learn new words as you need them.
Here's the bad news: neither the FSI tapes, nor any other mode of instruction I've come across, will do a damned thing to help you understand the Brazilains when they talk to you, no matter how fluent you become at speaking, reading, or writing it. This requires getting out there and talking to Brazilians every day.
Brazilan Portuguese is so difficult because the words don't sound, at least to an English speaker, anything like what they look like. For example, the Portuguese word for "radio" is the same as it is in English, but it's pronounced HAH-djoh. See what I mean? But if you adopt the right attitude, it can be fun.
Lorenzo
snowman66,
lorenzo has a good suggestion but there are other methods also. for example, i have taken private lessons from 2 schools berlitz and inlingua. this is the fastest way to get up to speed, if you have the money then you can take several classes a week and reading and speaking and listening really gets you going.
i am now finishing pimsleur ii and i find them great to polish my portuguese and to fill in some gaps and i am moving into pimsleur iii next week. pimsleur is one of the best that i have seen especially because you don'r need a book, i have the cd's going in my car all the time or when i exercise.
also, i don't know where you live and if you have any brazilians who live in your neighborhood but in my neighborhood there are some brazilians who work around here. i know every brazilian in a 5 mile radius to my home and on a daily basis i speak to them in portuguese, it is the best way to learn, i get free lessons every day, they're great people i love talking to them but i am also conscious of the fact that i am praticing and learning at the same time and tuning my ear to them.
i was just on vacation in south beach miami, there were 3 brazilians working in the lobby bar, from the first day i started talking to them, i spoke to them every day for a long time, they were making me caiparinhas and even gave me a couple of free ones. all of them spoke english but when they saw me coming it was oi roberto, como vai voce? every day again great practice and learning.
one of my brazilian portuguese teachers was a carioca beautiful woman but unfortunately married, i never told her why i went to rio but she guessed and always laughed that all her students were business men going to sao paulo for business and that i was the first student she ever taught for what i use it for in rio.
Asian Shark
I notice that Continental lowered their tickets to Rio to about $650 round trip. Also google BACC travel the Brazilian travel agency in NY maybe they can get you a good price.
tj fannatic
i want to go to that terma you went to across the street from the miami peep show. you said it was on the 11th floor of the building next to mcdonalds. ok, great, but do you have a room number and maybe an address. or is it easy to tell what is what once you get on the 11th floor. like, this would help: what side of mc donalds is the building located, to the left or right? and is it the exact next building or what?
please get back to me because i want to check it out!
ogun
Hi Guys, can someone please tell me the best way to get a cab from GIG airport into Rio? I know there are a lot of scams and I'd like to avoid them this time. Also, is it necessary after that long trip to wait in line to get reals at the airport in order to pay the cabbie, or will they take dollars? Thanks for your help!
Doc,
Grab a yellow taxi (with blue stripes) on your way out of the terminal, ignore the quasi official looking touts who will direct you to the more expensive radio cabs. Should cost about R$35 into copa. Your driver will not want dollars nor will he speak English. Just make sure he puts meter on, and pay whats on it.
I doubt they would take dollars, but you could always try.
You can just walk out to the kerbside and negotiate with a typical yellow taxi. Or you can get a pre-paid taxi which you pay at the booth inside the airport, then give the coupon to the driver. They are the red or blue coloured taxis.
To Copa or Ipanema you might pay between 30 or 40 reais in a normal taxi. The pre-paid ones will cost about 150% of the price of a regular taxi. I think the regular yellow taxis are completely fine and honest, but each person chooses according to their comfort zone.
If your Portuguese language skills are sketchy, you could have the hotel name and address printed out, then hand the sheet of paper to the driver.
Sunset Strip
08-21-04, 00:53
The Miami Show is at the corner of Copacabana Ave. (Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana) and Rua (Road) Hilario de Gouveia. It is one block from Monte Carlo on the same street basically. Cross the street from here and at 66 Hilario de Gouveia there is a building called Broadway. On the front it will say 66 Broadway. On the 11th floor in apartment 1103 there is a therma. Knock on the door and they will let you in. There will be about 5 to 10 girls in there.
Most of the people will be Brazilian but do not let this phase you. The place is located on a busy street in a busy building and the people are cool. The girls really appreciate our being there, trust me on that.
I have heard about some of these smaller thermas having dirty sheets, etc., but this one was not like that. True they had thin walls dividing you from the other rooms, but who cares.
Basically, you probably want to go here to get a good, short time, cheap screw. Plus, you can sit in the living room and feel up the girls and have a beer or two (big bottles) as long as you want.
The big butt black girl was angry with me because I went with another girl last night. When I came in she did not kiss me the way the girls do all the guys who come in there. She also made a point of grabbing every guys´cock but mine and sitting in their laps. Well, I took my punishment (it was not all that hard given that the other girls tried to make up for it anyway). I decided to give her up as a lost cause. However, when looking over I noticed she was not wearing panties under her skirt. This ALWAYS gets my attention! So when she went to the bathroom, I followed her in and gave her an inspection (I mean she did forget her panties and I wanted to make sure she had not accidently gotten herself dirty down there! I did it for her!)
Well we went in the room and had a very good time. I used every hole she had (she made me do it!).
Also, in about an hour one of the girls from the Miami Show (I will not use names in case her boss is a member here or something) is coming to my apartment (they get off at 9 pm). She is charging R$120, which is the same as I used to pay the girls in there about 2 years ago.
Basically, I just kept visiting the Miami Show and going into the booth with the same girl. It only took two days and she suggested she come to my apartment! So after a two year hiatus the Miami Show is back in play boys. Just keep it on the quiet because they are NOT suppossed to be doing this.
TJ
Rabo Verde
08-21-04, 07:04
Experienced mature Rio guy will be there from 4 September for two weeks. Anybody want to meet up, PM me.
El Mujerista
08-21-04, 21:04
Cachorro writes:
You can just walk out to the kerbside and negotiate with a typical yellow taxi.I would not recommend this for a newcomer to Rio, unless one is fluent in Portuguese.
Or you can get a pre-paid taxi which you pay at the booth inside the airport, then give the coupon to the driver. They are the red or blue coloured taxis.This, however, is quite sound advise and my personal recommendation and usual practise. There are two companies whose kiosks can be found together immediately after one departs customs, though on my recent trips through Rio they've been moved around a bit.
One company is Coopertramo -- I believe these are the blue cars. The other is Transcoopass -- I believe these are the red ones. The ladies at the desks speak English, and credit cards are accepted if you haven't yet had a chance to exchange currency (and even if you have, might offer a better exchange rate).
You can get a discount for a round trip (return to the airport). Just be sure to keep the little slip they give you. When you want to return, call and let them know where and what time you want to be picked up. In my experience, the people on the phone rarely speak English -- no problem for me, but if you don't speak Portuguese (or at least Spanish, which most Brazilians can comprehend), you can probably ask someone at your hotel to arrange it for you -- or one of your new lady friends, if she speaks some English or can otherwise understand what you need.
If for some reason you buy a round trip and don't use the return (it's happened to me), they will provide a refund. I would recommend allowing extra time at the airport in this case, expecially if it requires navigating from the departures area where one usually gets dropped off back to the arrivals zone.
The above holds true for the domestic airport (SDU) as well as the international airport (GIG) -- at SDU, the kiosks are located in the baggage claim area.
Happy Hunting,
EM
If you are planning on making futere trips back. A good rule of thumb would be to always keep a couple hundred reals for your return trip.
Havrum
I think you hit the nail right on the head as to where the higher level girls from Rio are right now, yes they are in Europe. From my experience many girls spend their winter in Europe in different ways. Some work the houses of illrepute in Spain, many go to Italy, switzerland, Germany, Portugal. There must be money to be made there for the real nice ones, the ugly ones I guess won't bother to go because it wouldn't be profitable they would just stay behind and pick up the business that the nice ones left to them.
But come about November/December they all start to come back to Rio for the Summer/Carnival/New Year season to make the Rio bucks and enjoy the summer and beach that they love so much.
The real top girls are international escorts, they get invited on cruises, vacations with wealthy older gentlemen or to spend a month at a time in Europe some place. I am now exchanging email with some girls who are travelling all over Europe now for the European summer but they will all be back by November.
Lorenzo,
Thanks for a great report. Although I'd hate to kiss Samara after a session with you. ;-)
Vanderley
Fartknocker
08-22-04, 06:48
Snowman66,
If you want to get to an "intermediate" level of Brazilian Portuguese studying by yourself, you are well and truly screwed. Actual spoken Portguese in Brazil has a number of charming characteristics that make it damn near impossible to learn without speaking to real Brazilians. For example:
-- Accents. Brazil has more crazy fucking accents than anywhere I can think of. Most Cariocas (from Rio) use "sh" in place of virtually every "s." Some Cariocas (particularly lower class) sound like they are talking through a mouthfull of mush. Paulistanos hit their r's hard and cough up their double r's. Southerners (and one chick I met from Goiania) seem to roll their rr's, and other "spanish style" pronunciation. Northeasterners might as well be speaking another language.
-- Lazy pronunciation. Virtually all Brazilians use countless shortcuts like "to" and "ta" for "estou" and "esta." Half the time they don't bother pronouncing the end of a word, and they only seem to use proper grammer and verb conjugation when it suits them.
-- They speak idiomatically -- a lot. You'll never know what it means "to pay the monkey" (pagar o mico) or where the "seal's ass" is (o cu da foca) until you actually start talking to Brazilians. Nobody writes this shit down.
-- Most of your grammer books are wrong. They'll tell you to use "ha" for "there is/there are" type statements, but everyone uses "tem" instead. They'll teach you to use the "tu" and maybe even "vos" verb forms, but virtualy nobody actually says that stuff.
Anyway, learn as much as you can -- particularly vocabulary. But keep in mind that no matter how much you study, when you get off the plane you will be a rank beginner, barely able to carry on a conversation. If you are lucky, after a couple months of regular conversation, you will probably get about half of what a native Brazilian is saying in a rapid conversation.
Bango Cheito
08-22-04, 09:32
Finding a brazilian chat channel and hanging out there is a great way to pick up on the slang. Also buying or downloading brazilian songs and playing them, hopefully following the lyrics. And don't forget that excellent brazilian porn!
El Mujerista
08-22-04, 15:28
Fartknocker's points are largely valid, but shouldn't discourage one from studying as much Portuguese as they can before going to Brazil. Any language skills, however basic, will be useful in negotiations and enriching the rapport with one's new friends, especially the ladies. I had spoken Spanish for many years and used it in Brazil before I started studying Portuguese (largely because whilst they could generally understand me, I could not understand them when they spoke back to me).
I used the Pimsleur comprehensive series, and according to one of my regular girlfriends in Rio (she is from Belo Horizonte) I speak Brazilian Portuguese with the accent of a Paulista (someone from São Paulo). Fartknocker is right that most Cariocas (people from Rio) tend to use more "sh" sounds at the end of some words. However, accents in Brazil are pretty much like those anywhere, parts of the UK and the US, for example, where they might create a bit of difficulty but can be overcome with some patience and perseverance.
Slang and local conventions (what Fartknocker calls "lazy pronunciation") can be an issue in casual conversation. There is a CD that is usually hawked by the street vendors on Avenida Atlantica called "How to speak Portuguese in Brazil." The CD is marked at R$35, but if you already know some Portuguese (negotations, remember?) you can probably get it for R$15, which is what I think I paid. Hopefully, it's still available -- the gringo that produced it used to have a web site, but it seems to have disappeared.
The CD, whilst a bit amaterish and disorganised on the production values side, is nevertheless helpful to learn some common vernacular and slang, and even some curse words. The value to me was learning stuff the Pimsleur series left out for some reason, e.g, how to say "nice ass," ("que bunda!"), and things like cock, pussy, suck, fuck, etc. Enjoy.
Happy Hunting,
EM
Fartknocker
08-22-04, 19:26
One good online resource is an article that appeared on Brazzil.com a while back. "How to cuss in Brazilian."
http://www.brazzil.com/blamay98.htm
To be honest, a lot of these words are not in common use. When I showed this list to some of my Brazilian friends they laughed their asses off. For example, "plantar um filho" (to plant a son) may well be understood as a euphamism for sex, but if you actually say it everyone is going to crack up.
JackDaniels
08-22-04, 22:21
What is Rio like at New Years ? I have read back through the forum but did not see much. All the hotel prices seem high. Does Rio put on a good New Year's Eve party besides the ubiquitous fireworks at midnight.
As far as speaking decent Portuguese is concerned as we all have stated here it is very difficult. I have been trying for 4 years now and I may just be close to intermediate maybe not even. This aint bad for a gringo who only goes twice a year to Rio.
But this string started because the guy asked how he can be intermediate in 4 months, thats a joke unless he gets a private tutor on a daily basis otherwise in 4 months he won't get too far if he is starting at zero.
I have good conversations with my Brazilian friends but when they talk to me they talk slow and easy. But when 2 or 3 Brazilians are going at it in conversation, it is almost impossible to get everything they are saying.
One time I spent a long weekend with a Brazilian girlfriend in Buzios and we conversed nicely, not too many problems, I understood her and she understood me. When my Brazilian Driver picked me up to take me back to Rio, he had his girlfriend in the car and all 3 of them were talking, my girl, my driver and his girl and I could hardly get what they were saying, I do know they weren't talking about me though since I was paying the bill.
You just have to start someplace and be consistent, it takes time, a long time and hard work. Unless of course you really have a nack for picking up languages which some people do really fast and easy, I do good at it but its not that easy, our friend who started the string may have the nack and in 4 months he may have it, I don't know who he is.
Even if he started Pimsleur today at 1 lesson a day it would take him 3 months to finish Pimsleur I, II and III and for a novice to do 1 lesson a day and master it is very difficult unless you have plenty of time and have the gift to learn a new language.
At this point I do something every day with learning Portuguese and every year I go back to Rio and I speak a little better and I have found that speaking the lingo brings the whole Rio experience to something very incredable, it makes this a vacation like no other.
New Years is alot of fun, but Rio really shuts down on the holidays. Bars, Restaurants, close, people spend time with family relax, I will never go back to brazil during the Major holidays because they like to party like we do. Its the exact opposite here, like if you work in a restaurant you know you are working on New Years eve, not in Brazil my friend.
Other ways to help one to learn and or better their portuguese is to do the following:
- Make contacts with Brasileiros over the net and chat with them on a regular basis. First in English and then, slowly switch to Portuguese. It's a great way to learn the language and improve your already existing skills but also to learn about the people,the culture and the country. And that makes your trip even better.
- Read Portuguese sites. Search and read sites about things you enjoy. I enjoy particularly reading about football and women so I have a lot of cool sites to read on a daily basis. I also read daily the online version of O'Globo and A Folha de São Paulo. Two great sources of current news in Brasil and to improve your Portuguese skills.
O'Globo's site: http://oglobo.globo.com
A Folha's site: http://www.folha.uol.com.br/
- Listen to Brasilian music which is one of the most varied and most pleasant in the whole world. Use Kazaa or the other shareware programs on the net to get your fix of Brasilian music.
- Listen to Brasilian radios or TVs. If you can't get Brasilian TV, just listen to radios online. There are plenty of them and they are truly great. And I have been listening to Brasilian radio non-stop everyday whenever I'm at home. It's great because the music is superb and varied, and it allows you to get familiar with the pronunciation and to get to hear street portuguese as most times, they have people calling in and talk live on air. My fav station on the site is a radio from Rio, it's called 94FM. Cool radio. Great variety of music.
Site for Brasilian Radios online:
I have been constantly using this site for the past few months:
http://www.mikesradioworld.com/la_br.html
Follow these and you should be well equipped in your quest to mastering the difficult but fascinating Brasilian Portuguese language. All the best!:)
Ate mais.
Jacaré.
Thanks for all of your input on how long it takes to learn Brazilian Portuguese. I got my textbook last week and I have four different tutors (all female) to choose from. They are all referals so I have not seen how they look yet but I'm hoping at least one of them will be hot, young and horny.
Anyway, a more important question: I stayed at the Princess Cococobana last time and loved it....it had a separate bedroom area and a separate tv/dining patio area. I loved being so close to Help and Meia Patica. But since I am going in January I am thinking about trying Impanema. Are the girls just as hot on the beaches of Impanema and are there easy pick up places in Impanema that are similar to Meia Patica? Do girls like to stay at the nicer places in Impanema or does it not matter? Any hotel recommendations that might have jacuzzis and pools and whatever?
Just for your info, I tried attaching a fantastic young juicy almost virginous twat of 18 years old of a newbie I met at Franks but I think my 5.1mgpx was too big of a file and this board could not attach it. If interested, pm me with your email and I'll send it to you.
Again, thanks for all of your help!
The Rio Kid
08-24-04, 05:48
Portuguese is not really that hard, but there are a few things you have to do, in my opinion:
1. I think Pimsleur is the best. Go through all the lessons at least 3 times.
2. Live in brazil for a year.
You do those things, portuguese would be no problem. if you can't live in brazil, review, review, and review the Pimsleurs on a daily basis.
Tchau
I have read in a brazilian forum about 2 termas I have never heard before. Las Vegas and Amarela. Does anybody have some infos about these? They get some good reviews.
Here is my first report submitted to the Forum: it is about my second trip to Rio I had during the first week of August.
I chose to rent an apartment (two bedrooms, total cost 266 R$ per day for 2 persons) in Ipanema. I think it’s a lot cheaper than staying in a hotel, in the low season you have a large range of apartments from which you can choose. Furthermore staying in an apartment allows you to bring as many girls as you want in your room.
1st day – Centaurus:
I went there at 18.00, segunda feira. Lot of girls, but I think not as many 9-10s as last year. After my first drink I chose my girl (blonde, thin, small tits, 1.70, I would rate her 7,5-8), started talking/kissing her, finished my second drink and after I went to the cabine with her. She was very warm, we start kissing each other then she provided me a BBBJ. After she put a condom on me we started to fuck in cowgirl, then missionary, end in doggy style.
She gave me her number, as I told her I was going to call her the next morning to arrange for the afternoon but I didn’t do it: I had few days in Rio and didn’t want to stay two days with the same girl.
Another drink in the boite, kissing other girls then I went out.
As my first day in Rio this was a fantastic welcome back afternoon.
2nd day- Help:
I went there at 1.00, ***ça feira. My greatest regret about my 2003 trip was that I didn’t go to Help. This year I didn’t want to miss the chance to visit this place. When I entered I remained stupefied: the place is huge, a lot of girls (I cannot imagine in the high season), lot of men too. It is like a marketplace where you can find every kind of girl you want. The quality is not so high but there are so many girls...
I started to talk with a girl with Hispanic traits (a 7,5 on my opinion, big tits, firm bunda, 1,60), we had a drink together, I offered her 200 R$ (I think it was too much). She didn’t say yes or no, she told me to wait for her cause was going to the toilet and disappeared for 20 mins. When we met again I asked her what she had decided, she answered she had to ask to her friend and disappeared again. After other 30 mins I spotted her on the dance floor, she came to me and said it was ok. We took a taxi and went home. She didn’t perform oral! I was so disappointed! We slept few hours, I fucked her twice and then sent her home.
My friend too had a so-so experience with a girl he picked from Help, so we decided to return to the services of the termas for the next days.
3rd day – rest:
Pào d’Açucar, Corcovado, etc.
4th day - Solarium:
Nice terma, great music (anyone knows the titles of the songs they play in the termas?), the girls wear a nice tanga that leaves little room for imagination. Anyhow I didn’t find a girl that I like (maybe I was in a bad mood that evening) so I drank few cocktails and went out.
5th day -Montecarlo:
The next day I decided to visit the twin of Solarium. Here I found soon a nice girl for me: 1,70, black, nice tits and a spectacular bunda... She danced on me in the boite, moving her ass up and down, great! I usually remain very calm when I am in the boite, but this time I couldn’t resist and, after few minutes, I went upstairs with her, without even finish my drink...
In the cabine she was very professional, the sex was great and after she provided to me a nice massage.
6th day - Back to Centaurus:
My last night in Rio, I decided to go back to what on my opinion is the best terma in Rio: the higher price and the upfront payment that is required at Centaurus are offsetted by the quality of the girls, the great range of selection and better facilities. This time I pick a blonde girl (a 8, height 1.65, nice tits), the first thing she said to me was that she was very “safada”, the second that she did “tudo” in the bed: I knew she was the right choice for me. In the bad BBBJ, sex in different position, after few minutes I came and immediately she started to blow me again... I asked ten minutes of rest, we kept kissing and touching each other, and when I was ready again she performed a great anal session... Best way to say bye to Brasil!
7th day – Back to Home:
I cannot wait to go back to Brasil!
Vanderly,
Maybe you could ask her to brush her teeth?
Lorenzo
Sunset Strip
08-24-04, 22:27
Learning Portuguese is difficult in the US because we do not hear it often. At least we can hear spanish often if we live in certain areas.
The other difficulty is that those courses you all speak of tend to focus primarily on spoken language skills. The reality is that since you are at an age where you tend to read things to get new knowledge. Hence the need to read Portuguese if you want to develop any real skills.
Most graduate schools in the US teach languages by focusing on reading rather than speaking. These students tend to píck up the language much faster and they do not forget it, like others do, because of irregular use. Unless you can speak Portuguese for extended periods of time each day, your skills will be lacking for years. Only learning to read it will make you truly effective.
I know that Barrons has a book called Spanish for Reading Knowledge that is very good. You can probably find a simialar book in Portuguese. I know Living Language has a book that focuses on reading skills but it is not too advanced, I might start here.
But trust me learning to read it is your best bet given our inherent problems with regular Portuguese use.
TJ
Rabo Verde
08-25-04, 01:10
She would have to brush her TONSILS after ME! LOL
Any Casions in Rio if so any address or recommendations.
Happy C
Hi mongers,
Have you ever wandered when you use an escort agency how much of your money goes to the girls at the agency for spending all that good time with you.
The following information was given to me by a girl who is an Ex Karla Model and now is working privately through www.hotside.com.br
At Karla Models the girls have to pay the first R$400 every week that they earn to the agency and after that they evenly split the money with the agency. So for example, during any particular week a girl from Karla Model spends time with 10 different mongers and gets billed R$1000 in that particular week than Karla Model will get the first R$400 and 50% of the rest R$600. So in all eventuality Karla Model get paid R$700 from the R$1000 in that week and the girls get paid R$300.
Best bbbj in Rio
Barbara Torre on www.hotside.com.br
Total GFE, DFK, DATY, gorgeous face and body and one of the most beautiful carioca I have come across. She very much loves to give bbbj and made me come in her mouth with some excellent strokes. My dick was saying to me that I am in sex heaven and I never want to go anywhere but the oral was so good that I couldn't hold on for too long and came inside her mouth. After that I took a shower with this beautiful girl and then came back to bed. This time with the help of cialis I went on with her for an hour continuously in several different positions including Anal.
For those of you who don't mind spending R$150 plus R$30 for 2 hours time and some excellent service I highly recomend Barbara. You can see her particulars on www.hotside.com.br but I can also vouch for her face. She is atleast a 9 or a 10 in my book.
Barbara and her 9 other friends advertise on www.hotside.com.br and she told me pretty good things about some of her other friends. I am planning on visiting Hana and steffany also from www.hotside.com.br. It is my understanding that all her friends charge the same.
Stay Tuned for more info on my visit with Hana and steffany....
JackDaniels
08-25-04, 21:21
Thanks Vitor97.
The hotels and apartments try to lock in people on 3 and 5 day terms over the New Year and if all that Rio has to offer is the evening of December 31, it may not be worth stopping over for New Years. Not to mention the high accomodation prices at that time. I was quite enamoured by the sight of everyone dressed in white on Copa beach. Any good cities in South America for the New Year ?
Cheers.
Thanks for all of your advice on picking up the Brazilian Portuguese language. I've got 3 tutors, hopefully they are all hot young and horny, that I will be working with here in LA.
Anyway, I can't get this one girl named Daniella off my mind. She has this beautiful face that could be on the cover of Cosmo or Mademoiselle or whatever. She has brunetette hair with a blonde streak that hangs from the front. She hangs out at Help a lot especially at the Tereza right in front. She is light skinned with a fairly small chest. Always wears a black sexy dinner dress. I saw her in mid July and think she was by far the sexiest girl out there.
If anyone knows of her and has pictures of her, please please pleasse send them to me. Or if you are in Rio right now, please enjoy her for me and please take some nasty pix so that I can see what I missed and that I will soon get again in January. She is one of the girls I let go for a measly few bucks. Thanks!
Hey guys,
Thinking about going to Brazil there in Oct. Probably renting a apartment through gringo management or rio apartments for about 10 - 15 days. It would be my first time there if I come. I am wondering if anyone who knows the routine (safe places to go, food hunts) would like to partner up and show a newbie the ropes. Was thinking of going back to the philippines but done that plenty of times. The pics of all the beautiful Brazillian women just gets me going. I don't wanna get into any problems being there by myself in the begining. So holla at me guys, if your gonna be there in Oct. Thanks in advance.
Hi Jinks... just read the posts on this board and you should be fine.... there should be plenty of guys in Rio during Oct. and you should have no trouble hooking up with a few.
If you spend your days at the beach or the Termas and your nights at Help you should have enough to keep you occupied.
If you need any info. while you're here call me, I live here......
PM me for the number....
JackDaniels, yes the main action is on Dec. 31st, but with people coming in from all over Brazil and the rest of the world starting around Christmas and some staying well into January, there is PLENTY of action here in Rio to occupy you for a lot longer then 3 or 5 days.
The working girls start arriving here in early December and stay here until well after Carnival…… so there is always a lot of action then.
JackDaniels
08-27-04, 00:08
Kenn
Thanks.
Someone mentioned that the bars and restaurants shut down as staff take time off - I got the impression that Rio is dead except for the evening of December 31. So are the termas open and is Help open every day ?
There are no casinos in Brazil
Fartknocker
08-27-04, 19:39
Snooky falou:
"There are no casinos in Brazil"
Not even close to true. There are no LEGAL casinos in Brazil. There is also no LEGAL prostitution, LEGAL consumption of recreational drugs, etc. Does this mean your can't get a girl-for-hire or a dime bag of coke in Rio? No, both are easy as hell to come by.
Rich Brazilians love to gamble. They are some of the biggest customers in the legal casinos in Paraguay and Uruguay, but some of them don't bother leaving town to get their fix. Slot machines are everywhere, high-stakes bingo is popular, and back-room mini-casinos are available for upscale customers in both Rio and SP.
Finding one and getting past the door is not the easiest thing to do, however . . .
Update on Monte Carlo,
I've reported fully on Monte Carlo a couple of times recently. I went back there last night with one of their "semana maluca" emails in hand. This is the discount that will be emailed to you periodically if you're on their email list and entitles you to a free cabine, which is a savings of R50. This is the only time I go to MC. I really don't like the place, but I'm never one to pass up a bargain.
I arrived expecting the worst because it was prime time, 8:00PM on a Thursday night. However, there were fewer men than I expected, and quite a few available girls. I hooked up with a very choice morena named Gabriella and booked her for 40 minutes in a cabine (which you must do if you use the "semana moluca" promotion, otherwise they won't honor it.)
Gabriella is 24, medium height, brown complexion, great body, pleasant personality. I was mildly disappointed to discover that her ample breasts were enhanced, but her surgeon did a great job, since they were still relatively soft. Gabriella does DFK, BBBJ, CFS, all of which we did. She also does anal, which I didn't do. (IMHO, anal sex is for faggots; why fuck an asshole when a pussy is available? But, YMMV.) We started out in Asian cowgirl, then missionary. But I liked her cocksucking so much that I pulled out, took the rubber off, laid on my back and let her suck me slowly and intensely, taking it all the way to the base, till I came. I had promised her I wouldn't CIM, so just before I exploded I signaled her. She took it out of her mouth and finished me off manually with just one or two strokes.
All things considered, a most enjoyable experience. I recommend Gabriella most highly. The whole thing cost me R170 (about US$57), after the "semana maluca" discount; otherwise it would have been R220. Cheap under any circumstances.
Lorenzo
Sunset Strip
08-27-04, 23:24
I was in Rio for the Christamas of 2003. I remember that Mabs was open beginning in the afternoon as was No Name Bar (now Scotland Yard). Basically things are about normal except for that morning. ANd since Rio has arguably the best sex scene in the world, you will always be getting laid (excpet for Christmas morning).
Things pick up RAPIDLY the day after Christmas until you will not believe the amount of action on New Years Eve.
TJ
Cali Monger
08-28-04, 00:12
Wow. I thought I was headed to Thailand but my boss just called and told me my yearly bonus is a paid trip (air and hotel) to Rio. I'm blown away. I have some questions for the experienced Rio travelers. Are there any bars in Rio that will be showing American Football live on TV on Sunday and Monday Night? Will there be less girls around in the days right after Christmas? Is the hotel Princess Copacobana the same as the Premiere Copacobana? Anybody have any info on the Premiere Copacobana? Is it near to any Termas or Help? Is it girl friendly? Thanks for any information. --Cali--
Cali -
The Princess Copacabana and Premiere are two seperate properties. I'm actually headed down week after next and will be staying at the Princess which is a Apart-hotel. So I've been informed by Ipanema.com. they are relaxed when it comes to guests, especially now in the slower period. The Princess is right in walking distance to Help from what I understand. The Premiere was gonna be my second choice.
Not sure where you would find US style football, but I'm sure one of the bars has it showing
If you want to watch American football in Rio then there are several choices. The Marriott Lobby bar has a big screen TV with satelite, they play all the games and on game day the bar is packed with Americans. This is in Copacabana.
There is an Irish bar in Ipanema called Shenanagans they also have a sports bar type atmosphere and the famous Lord Jim Pub in Leblon has the games. You have 3 choices and there may be even more especially in Barra.
Bango Cheito
08-28-04, 08:14
The Premiere is girl-friendly but they only have ONE key per room and NO spares. If you're staying by yourself this isn't a huge deal; just leave the key at the front desk.
Rio Bob,
Thanks for the info. I gearing up for my trip at the end of Sept. This is a detail I had'nt thought about. I'm a football fan! What a great thing to know about.
And since I am a total pervert I am always thinking of the chicas. Do you know if the gals know about this, and do they show up at these venues knowing guys will be there?
Anyone whose going to be in Rio between September 10-16 who would be interested in meeting some of the local females with my buddy and I PM me and we will hit the streets.
Smoke
I arrived Centaurus today at around 7:00 pm. It seemed like it was almost full. There were atleast 40 to 50 men and about the same or a little more hot looking girls over there. In my opinion Centaurus was better than Luomo. At Centaurus you have to pay upfront for a package deal and the cost is R$ 290 total without drinks. The drinks are pretty reasonable too, I was charged R$13 for one water for me and one girl drink. It was comparatively not very expensive either especially for those who pay for an hour at Luomo, which costs R$255 anyways.
I found that Centaurus girls are much more prettier than Luomo girls and the services provided are much more upscale than any other Terma. As per the experience with the girls I believe that it almost always depends on any individuals particular mood and how they treat the girls as to what kind of experience we have with girls. I had this tall tanned girl named Karla. She had a pretty full body (by that I mean she was not too slim and not fat) but she was like about 5 feet 11 inches tall.
We had sex in several different positions and I had two pops with her. Just like any other Carioca this girl also enjoyed herself while being fucked or at least she knows how to act while having a nice fuck. After we were done with the second both me and the girl were sort of not able to stand properly. I was almost about to fall down the first time I tried to get up. I lost track of time while with her but I am sure we were fucking continously for the whole amount of time we were together.
The only thing is that I have had so many good experiences in Brazil that I can't really rate this girl a 10 on the fucking scale, but I surely will give her an 8. As per looks she was also about 8 or 9 in my book. I have very high standards with what is a good looking 10 on my scale especially after staying in Rio for the last six weeks. It is quiet amazing how Rio can spoil you. I don't know if I will ever be able to enjoy sex with a non pro girl in my life ever again. Well that is the price you pay for having so many good experiences with so many wild girls here in Rio.
I sincerely hope that every body enjoys Rio as much as I have on my visit to Rio.
BJ Clinton
08-29-04, 22:53
Guys,
If I go to Rio for a 10 day vacation for the women, what are the chances I can get in a little golf during the day.
It seems that most courses in Brazil are private. Does anyone know? Your help appreciated.
BJ Clinton,
Most of the golf course are private.
If you stay at a nice hotel they usually have the ability to get you
on a course.
I stay at the Intercontinetal and they have gotten me out on Galiea CC.
I would rather save my time and energy for more women.
Good luck!
Rabo Verde
08-30-04, 03:01
GOLF IN RIO: There is only one real course in Rio, but it is gorgeous. It is located in Sao Conrado, which is a nice Rio beach neighborhood about a 15 minute ride from Ipanema or 30 mins from Copacabana. I believe that most hotels can get you a tee time from Monday thru Friday, or you could try calling them:
Gávea Golf Country Club
Phone: +55 21 33224141
Neighborhood: Zona Sul
Category: Outdoor Activities
Overview of Gávea Golf Country Club
Founded in 1921 and designed by the Scot Arthur Morgan Davidson, then aged 20. Despite the fact that it was his first job, the club is the most beautiful in Brazil, and the course is ranked in the top 50 of the world. The club is located between the Pedra da Gávea and the Parque Nacional & Floresta da Tijuca, almost 900 metres above sea level. It faces São Conrado beach. Although a short course (6,000 yards and par 68) it is tricky and challenging to play.
Hey guys,
What is the typical wear in Brazil. I am usually wearing jerseys and shorts, typical urban wear at home. I know the area is a touristy area for the most part, but then again I don't wanna draw too much attention. What do you guys suggest would be a good attire while visiting, and also the attire when going to termas like Help or others.
Thanks in advance.
Cash Works
08-30-04, 13:10
BJ,
I'm not a golfer, but I do have a number of friends who are. On occasion, I've heard mention of the guys playing a few rounds while in Brasil, but they always complain about it being expensive (relatively speaking, I'm sure) and not much to choose from. I have no idea what course they played, very possibly the one mentioned by Chuponalgas.
Most of these guys go to Thailand now (better and more abundant golf courses apparently), but years ago, when they were spending their time off work in Rio, they would usually have Sunday dinner at Lord Jims Pub (Rio Bob mentioned this place) for the traditional English roast beef/yorkshire pudding (don't know if Lord Jims is still doing this). They may offer golfing excursions at the pub or hook you up with somebody who can line up a round or two - just a thought.
CW
Jinks; All the information you will ever need is coverd in past post on this board. I have made 3 trips to Rio and on my first trip it was almost like i had been there before. Just bone up on all the great info. provided on the board and you'll be fine, and most of all "establish a price before you recieve services for any thing or from anybody" and this applies from the moment you get off the plane til you get back home!
Rabo Verde
08-30-04, 22:37
Eu quero te foder na BUNDA!!!!!!
Late Night
08-31-04, 01:42
Jinks,
You are kidding right?
Fartknocker
08-31-04, 02:42
Jinks,
What you wear to a terma is irrelevant. You usually change into a robe after entering.
What you wear to Help would be what you wear to any dance-club/singles bar type place.
However, all of this is trumped by one single principle:
IF YOU HAVE MONEY, YOU CAN WEAR WHATEVERTHEFUCK YOU WANT TO IN BRAZIL.
Write that down . . .
Chuponalgas,
I usually prefer, "Quero comer sua bundinha gostosa." I seem to get better results with that.
This, it's corny, but, damn I love you guys. Hope to make it to Bazil in September! with camera in hand.
Z
Jinks and others curious about Rio and the cariocas.
Try to get a copy of a booklet called "How to be a Carioca". This is, without a doubt, the most hilarious (but accurate) guide about Rio´s inhabitants. Covers all aspects of human behaviour from beach protocol to how to bribe the local police
Absolutely essential (for those with a suspicious mind, I swear I have nothing to do with the authors or publishers)
Man, you guys are awesome. I have learned so much from this forum. I feel a whole lot better about going there. Almost feel I been there living through you guys. Gonna start looking at apartments through gringomanagement and rioapartments and see what I can come up with. Hopefully in the next two weeks I will have a definite answer on visiting. Just can't wait.
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
Bambino
I don't think that too many girls(programmas) will be at the Marriott lobby bar for Sunday afternoon football but I have seen 1 or 2 in the evening. I have heard that Lord Jim Pub has had a couple in there during the games, that is very smart of them as Im sure they can make plenty of business.
Jinks,
It's true what Fartnocker has said but keep in mind that most clubs during the evening will not let you in with shorts on especially Help. I have seen many guys being turned away because they had shorts on and several I overheard say that they had no long pants with them and had to go out and buy some Brazilian pants that didn't fit as these guys were very large.
Hi all,
My little controbution after few days in Rio.
I am just back from there. Last friday, since I luckily found myself alone from all the rest of travel companions, I decided a raid. So I read the newspaper "O Globo" (i can read and speak a little Portoguese) and took some phone numbers from Copacabana area.
I tried two: one in avenida copacabana (I think was #583/203 and I saw there is also a therma there)), where for 100 reais (I bargained 80) I had a delicious but shy and scared 19 girl for one hour.
In afternoon I went in a Prado junior 330 apartment: I was in hurry, so only 30 mins with a wondeful mulatta (18 she said, and I hope!) for 25 reais. I did my best do make two shots anyway but was hard!
service was ok, nothing incredible (better teh second than first), aprtments were bit dirty and small, but is somethign you can afford
look forward to go back in Brasil
Greetings and thank you all for the informations
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Fartknocker
08-31-04, 23:01
True enough on the shorts thing. Brazilians in general, and Paulistanos in particular, don't seem to go for shorts like we do. Going out in shorts to a decent restaurant or club just isn't done. That being said, you are a Rich American and people will cut you a lot of slack to get into your pocket.
Don't bother trying to "fit in" in Brazil. I was worried about that when I first went down, but then I realized a central truth: You won't fit in no matter what you do. Brazilians can spot the gringo in the crowd almost immediately.
Here in Orlando I can spot the British tourists walking down the street in a heartbeat. First of all, Americans don't walk ANYWHERE. We take the car to go to the back yard. Then there is the pale skin, sunburnt foreheads, nasty shorts and tank tops they haven't worn since the last trip to Disney, etc.
Same thing with Brazilians. They take one look at me and see broad shoulders, stocky build, "well fed," light skin, clipper-cut hair, differently cut blue jeans and they know instantly I'm a foreigner -- probably American. Even if I dressed in Brazilian fashion, they would still know. So I just live with it. I figure I'm getting more than my fair share of attention from the women BECAUSE I'm foreign, so why fight it?
Cali Monger
09-01-04, 03:10
The football is to fill the time between sex and eating. My lily white ass can only take so much sun and as much as I'd like to think I'll be mongering from start to finish, I'm sure I'll need a break. Besides all that, I make no apologies for being a football fanatic and it's a key part of my life from Sept. to Jan. even if I'm on vacation.
For me dress is not a matter of trying to "fit in" or hide the fact that I'm American. For me it's a matter of respect for the culture I'm in. I wouldn't walk into any club in shorts, or a decent restaurant for that matter. Brazilians also place a high value on dress and appearance in general. You're more likely to be accepted and more importantly paid attention to by "normal" girls if you're dressed well.
Rabo Verde
09-01-04, 04:23
Rio is less formal than Sao Paulo. I wear shorts and a t-shirt all day long in Rio, all around Ipanema and Copacabana, and nobody seems to mind, and half the Cariocas are dressed the same during the day. Many people are wearing bathing suits and shorts close to the beach, which is where you want to be anyway. I switch to casual slacks and a polo shirt at night. Long pants are required in Help Disco, and are appreciated in fancy restaurants. When you go to the termas, you turn in your clothes for a bathrobe, so it doesn't matter.
TJ FANNATIC
It took me a while to get back to this site, but thanks for the information. I going to go and check out the spot within the next week or so.
Thanks, dude!
OGUN
Question for you guys? Is there any working girl in Rio that gives BBBJ's? I have met only one in My 10 day stay in Rio. All the beach goer chicks and help chick's won't seem to to a BJ unless you put on a condom. Are any of the escort service girls worth it in that dept! I'll be going back in Feburary! Any input you guys can give would be appreciated!
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Rabo Verde
09-01-04, 23:06
Somebody please remind me where to get Viagra in Rio. I know this has been covered, but the search function is not working.
Walk into ANY pharmacy and say "Viagra."
You'll get some.
I think you'd do better to get Cialis, but that's me.
Sal
Chuponalgas,
Any pharmacy will sell V, Cialis, etc, to you without a prescription.
I usually stock up at Drogas Raia, Visconde de Piraja (between the square with the Sunday market & Farme de Amoedo in Ipanema). This is part of a large chain found throughout Rio
Viagra can be purchased at almost any drug store in Copacabana or Ipanema..... Just play the dumb tourist and make like you thought it is always available. It worked for me at one place for Valium last week..
Kenn,
Whats the cost of Viagra out there in Rio, because I'm leaving London soon, gonna need it for those sexy goddess.
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As Kenn said you can buy Viagra at any pharmacy over the counter in Rio including Cialius which has a different affect. The other product he mentioned is also available but not over the counter, it is available under the counter. When I hit town and get myself setup one of the things I do is hit the pharmacy close to the corner of Miguel Lemos and Ave Atlantica, I stock up for my stay on over and under the counter products so I can be comfortable. This is one of the things I love about this wonderful country among others.
Rabo Verde
09-03-04, 01:47
As usual, Kenn is great! Check out his website at:
http://www.ez-riorentals.com
As soon as one reaches Rio one realizes that there is plenty of choices to eat good food in Rio. This report is for us food lovers. Once I arrived in Rio, I quickly found out that most of the food that the locals in Rio eat is a little different from my taste buds. A few days I tried eating Mc Donald's and such but even that has a little extra sour taste just like other Brasilian food. Most food here has some extra amount of salt then what I as an American is used to. Since my stay in Rio is about 10 weeks I was able to find some decently good food here.
For those who like Lebanese food like shawerma, Falafel, and other sandwiches with Arabic touch to it, I recomend "Amir". Amir is located in the same alley as Balcony Bar. Make a left from Balcony Bar on Ave. Atlantica. If you don't know where Balcony Bar is you can ask any Taxi Driver and he will take you there. Amir is not on the main Ave. Atlantica street but in the alley which is two streets down from Copacabana Palace Hotel travelling towards Meridien Hotel on Ave. Atlantica. Amir is busy most evenings so expect to wait 10 to 15 minutes. They have some good shawerma sandwiches for R$7.
For those who like to eat Barbecue, a well recomended place is Cortegeon. I don't know if I have the spelling right but this restaurant is very close to Amir restaurant. If you walk down from Balcony Bar you will see this restaurant just before Amir Restaurant. This place is a little more expensive but it is a seated buffet. They bring all different parts of Cow meat and pork meat to your table and let you eat for as long as you can. This style of food is pretty unique in such that they have a picture of a cow divided into like 9 or ten different parts and they serve you all the parts and let you know which part of the cow you are tasting. Therefore, after eating at this place you can easily say that you have tried all the different meats that exist in a cow. I recomend this place more for the experience than the food. Don't get me wrong the food is quiet good but the experience is even better.
Next for us sea food lovers. I recomend a restaurant by the name of Top Beer. This restaurant is located right on Ave. Atlantica. The cross streets are Rua Republica do peru and Ave. Atlantica. This restaurant has like humongous shrimps. Once you go there ask them for a menu with photo's. I was able to find some good dishes with the help of the photo's they showed me. They have like two or three different photo menus. Try and go through all of them. I have liked all different sea food that I have tried here. I would recomend that if you're looking at the photo menu, you also ask them that food is for how many people. Mostly I have seen is that if a dish is R$60 than it is good for two people. They have another big sea food platter which has all different kind of sea food in one dish. They are gonna tell you that the dish served is for two people but believe me even if you eat like a hog you atleast need three people to finish it, but then again that is my opinion. This seafood platter is like R$130 or so. This is one of the best sea food restaurants I have ever tried.
Next, if you like Chinese food with some American taste, I recomend Chon Kou. This restaurant is located on Av. Atlantica, 3.880 (Posto 6) on the second floor, in front of Copacabana beach. Go ahead and try any of the food here, I have had pretty good experience with all their dishes. It is pretty reasonable place to eat. I usually take a date along with me and order their Hot and Sour Soup and one of the chicken dishes with Chicken Fried Rice. It is enough for the two of us and the damage aside from beer and wine is usually less than R$40.
For us Pasta lovers, I recomend this restaurant by the name of Culinary Italiana. This restaurant is a franchise and they are located in all the major shopping malls in Rio. If I am close to Copacabana, I usually went to Rio Sul. This restaurant idea is pretty unique. On the menu they have the pictures of all the different kinds of Pasta's and they also have pictures of all these different things that you would want to put in your pasta. From this list of pictures you get to choose total of 9 different things that you can selective ask them to put in your pasta. This restaurant has invented an excellent way of making personalized pasta's as per the need of the customer. They even let you choose what kind of sauce you want on your pasta. Anybody looking for a good restaurant idea to bring to U.S. should seriously look into this concept.
The cost of Pasta and a soda is about R$12.
Next, if you are looking for some light lunch in Ipanema, I recomend Del Rio Tropical. To get to this restaurant you would have to ask your Taxi Driver to go to Ipanema beach and as soon as you hit posto 9 you make the first available right turn. Then on the first signal you make a left. Go straight down may be less than 2 minutes or so you will see this restaurant on your right hand side. This place has several different types of Salads, Pasta's, and many other good variety of food. They also have like three different types of soups and a very good selection of cakes. I usually eat Tropicaliente sandwich on a croisant, a soup and a cake for dessert. Since I am staying in Ipanema, I quiet often visit this place.
Lastly, I recomend eating at a restaurant by the name of Garota de Ipanema. This is a pretty good, old and famous restaurant. All you need to do is tell the Taxi driver the name of this restaurant and he should be able to take you to this place. I saw most customers here were ordering the same dish and that was Picanha. I think this dish costs R$48. It comes on a grill kind of thing where they bring you semi cooked picanha and then cook it further as per your likeness. If you like to eat raw they will serve you raw meat. If you want it to be well done, just let it cook a little more. For those who wander what is Picanha? Picanha is similar in taste like Filet Mignon. It is really good soft meat and in general costs the same as Filet Mignon at most places.
I have tried to cover most of the good places where I think the food was pretty good. I am sure there are several more good places to eat in this beautiful city.
One more thing, the Viagra/ Cialus is always available at the rear of the store, where I assume they handle prescription kind of stuff. You have to ask one of the attendants, even if you know zero Porto it will not be a problem. Just say "VIAGRA" and they will bring up a box with all kinds of stuff in it including Cialus and Conagra (fake indian Viagra). They are very used to dealing with Gringo Touristas.
It is worth trying out cialus, the vast majority of mongers use this now. Lasts longer and hence is a bit cheaper.
What's an "under-the-counter" product?
Cash Works
09-03-04, 21:05
Just a guess Doc, but I'd say it's something that requires a prescription, but the pharmacy sells it to you anyway without a prescription.
Doc Bill, I will explain what an under the counter product is: Lets start with an over the counter product as a Doctor you should know what that is, that is any product that can be sold legally to anybody who walks in the pharmacy, you don't need a prescription for it Then an under the counter product is any product that is sold illegally to whoever the pharmacist feels he can get a good price for but it is against the law to sell without a prescription. I buy both products all the time and when its an under the counter product he is very careful about other people seeing what he is doing, he may even take me into the back room for the exchange, its terrific, try to do that in the US with a stranger..
Very useful information, Bob, thank you!
I am unable to access the search function here, so I hope this question is not too redundant: How do you guys feel about Franks and Barbarella's? I've been to Rio twice and I've done everything but the "strip club" scene, didn't seem like it made much sense, but some guys rave about it. How do things work there?
Guy,
I have question what is the differenc between Viagra and Cialius, I have read about them on the web, but all that is publicity stuff.
Any one who had tried both can tell better. are both same thing?
Eric
Eric Emp
In my opinion they have a different affect, for example: Viagra gives you a very strong hard experience that lasts maybe up to 8 hours on a normal dose. Cialis I don't think it is as strong or hard but lasts much longer like close to 2 days. So depending on your needs and reason for use you may want to choose one over the other.
Doc Bill
Franks and Brabarellas are not like the strip clubs in the US. Since the girls who are dancing are all available for take out service immediately. Thats one reason the other is that these clubs are smaller than Help and less girls but most of them are a higher quality per capita than Help. So you go in get a table, have a couple of drinks watch the show and all these beautiful girls parade around you for you to see them, they smile at you and then you can invite them for a drink and if you like them negotiate your deal and then off you 2 go together for the time of your life. I have always had a great time from the girls in Barbarellas as it has the best reputation through the years. This whole experience is more expensive than a termas or Help but it is another way to do Rio.
i agree with the quality and attitude of the girls at barbarellas, top notch, but the staff there on the other hand are the absolute worst of rio. even worse than centaurus if you can imagine that. be very very careful. the f_cked up waiters at barbarella will try to charge up your bill every single time.
if you don't know exactly how much your drinks are when you order, they will charge you 'gringo prices' upon exiting the club. every time i go there they give me a different story on what fees are required to take a girl (or two) out, and try to charge me the most expensive drinks for the girls. one time a guy tried to slip me a bill of r$300 for a couple of drinks plus the exit fee for the girl. i laughed in his face. he tried to stick to his guns and act stupid, knowing very well what he's trying to do. i asked for the manager, since i've talked to him before, and acting like he went to go get the manager, he came back a few minutes later with the correct bill. ridiculous. every single time.
they totally take advantage of the fact that they employ the better quality of girls of rio. they know it, and they know what they can get away with. they know you'll be back, regardless. i don't mind at all paying good money for fine service. i indulge in clubs much more upscale than barbarellas in sao paulo all the time. but when people try to jack me for even a few dollars, i have a real problem with that.
the big doorman out front with an iq of a chimp never fails to blatantly stick his hand out and ask you for a tip on your way out too. if there's another thing i have a problem with, is people 'asking', or rather, 'demanding' tips. i'm not a cheapskate. if i feel they deserve one, they will get it, a real big one at that. don't f_cking stick your hand out demanding one, especially when you haven't done jack sh_t. one of my worst pet peeves in the whole world.
anyway, done ranting. i always go back to barbarellas, because quite frankly, i like the girls there. i usually get their numbers after a night with them and meet them outside the club for future encounters, but i like to see the new selection at the club every now and then. if it weren't for the girls, i would never go back. watch your bill and don't let them take advantage of you!
City Angel
09-05-04, 12:23
I’m arriving in Rio this Thursday for 8 days of enjoyment.
I'm travelling alone so if anyone is in town and fancies meeting up for or drink or a visit to a terma, just PM me.
later Angel
Big John 55
09-05-04, 20:31
Brazil is awesome! Spent a week there followed by a week in Buenos Aires (which is even better).
Stayed at a Copacabana Hotel (Excelsior) which is not visitor friendly. Ciaplus and the others will not serve that facility (no permission). Did not have the time or patience to find a room to rent by the hour so used other resources. The good news is that Monte Carlo Terma was a 3 or 4 blocks away. Sorry, no pictures.
Monte Carlo is very good and reasonably priced. They open at 4:00 PM and the selection was really good 10 - 12 chicas and more arrived later in the evening.
You go in the reception area and are welcomed and given the low down on rates and a locker key with a number. Then you go to the locker room and change into a robe and shower shoes. Then go upstairs to the disco and check out the talent. You can have a drink and make your pick and off you go.
You can select a regular room or upgrade to a suite with a hot tub. You pay upon leaving (250 real including a professional massage - 300 real for the suite option). Full service was very good, not rushed, and found them to be very customer focused.
Latest report on Termas L'Uomo:
In my of 8/18/04 I gave a complete report on L'Uomo's price structure,which should be a good reference point for the foreseeable future. I went back today because I was feeling horny (the GF had a hemorrhage in her uterus cauterized and we can't have sex for a month) and because it was Sunday, my thinking being the place would not be too crowded on a day when most Brazilian men would be with their families. I hadn't counted on the gringos. When I got there between 5-6pm, the crowd was fairly thin, but by 8pm it was jammed. No matter, I had two exceptionally delightful sexual experiences.
The first garota I picked was a tall Morena named Vicky. I love tall women because there's just so much more body to explore. Vicky didn't let me down. We went to the Super Suite, which I try to do with girls I consider special. We engaged in, in the following order, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, FS, then BBBJCIM. Vicky has medium sized natural breasts which she let me stroke and suck at my leisure. I then moved down her body and ate her pussy at length till she had an orgasm, or at least pretended to. If she was acting,however, she was doing a very good job. (I always try to pleasure the woman as much as possible early in the session, bringing her to orgasm if I can, my logic being that she'll express her gratitude by giving me as pleasurable an experience as possible rather than just doing something perfunctory; I'm rarely disappointed.)
Vick then gave me a great BBBJ, then straddled me and fucked me first cowgirl, then reverse cowgirl. She had told me earlier that she would let me CIM, so I eventually stopped the fucking and let her start sucking me again. She sucked me at length until I had a volcanic orgasm right in her mouth. I usually don't go back to the same girl more than once, but in Vicky's case I'll make an exception. In fact, I'm going to make her a regular. Other details: she's 24, does anal if she likes the guy, and is off one day a week, but the day differs. This week it will be Wednesday, but she advised me to call first and see if she is working.
I relaxed in the lounge for a while, but I felt that I had enough spunk left in me to shoot another wad, but I didn't want to spend another hour. So I picked another tall garota named Elise and went to a cabine for 40 minutes. Elise isn't especially pretty, but there was something about her that intrigued me. She is a laura, curly-haired honey blonde. My instincts turned out to be right; Elise is exceptionally skilled sexually. What she lacks in looks she makes up for in enthusiasm. We started out with some DFK and my stroking and sucking her natural breasts. She then moved down my body and started BBBJ. She then asked me if she wanted her to massage my prostate gland while she sucked me off. At first I was hesitant; after all, if I wanted something up my ass when I have sex, I would have become a faggot. (Just kidding, guys; that particular thought has never entered my mind.) But I finally siad, what the hell, and told her okay.
That turns out to have been the right decision. It turned out to be one of the most intensely pleasurable sexual experiences I've ever had--at least for a while. She put a condom over her middle finger and stuck it as far up my ass as it would go, continuously rotating her finger as she sucked me off with great enthusiasm. For some reason, the anal pressure I felt inside increased the intensity of the pleasure from the BBBJ dramatically. After about 10 minutes, however, having her finger in my rectum was starting to get old, so I asked her to pull it out. I then told her I wanted to come in her mouth, and she said no problem. She then continued to suck me with an enthusiasm I have rarely encountered. The intensity of the pleasure was incredible, and soon I proceeded to come in the mouth of a garota for the second time that night. You can be assured that I'll be seeing Elise again, too. Other information about Elise: she's 27 (old for a termas girl), been at L'Uomo 2 years (a longevity highly unusual), does anal with a condom, and is off on Thursdays.
The total cost os the evening was R$440, broken down as follows: entrance R35, Super Suite R80, 1st girl R170, cabine R45, 2nd girl R110. This is approximately US$147 for two of the most intense sexual experiences in recent memory. Rio Rules!
An additional note: I have been going to L'Uomo for four years, since 2000. When I first started going there, gringos were a scarcity. For many years I was almost always the only white gringo there. L'Uomo has always been popular with black Americans, and there was usually a couple of 'bruthas' there, but I was usually the only honky. So I had ample opportunity to practice my Portuguese. All this has changed dramatically. Tonight Americans far outnumbered Brazilians, and most of the Americans were middle aged and white, with a handful of younger blacks. Now no offense is intended, guys, but being an older white man myself, I can see plenty of people like myself in the USA. I come to Brazil to be around Brazilians. I don't want to see L'Uomo become like Meia Pataca or Mabs, overrun with smartass Americans making snide quips to each other that the non-English speaking garotas can't understand. So I'm glad that L'Uomo is getting the success, in the form of patronage, that it deserves, and I hope that my reviews, among those of others, may have contributed to this, but what I'm leading up to is that I may be soon disengaging myself from L'Uomo and heading downtown or to Gloria, where hopefully I'll find fewer tourists and a bit more of a Brazilian flavor. I really hate to find myself saying this, but that's the way I feel at the moment. More on this to come (no pun intended).
Lorenzo
I saw Elise too last time I was in Rio and have to agree with all that Lorenzo said about her. She's a real gem!
Lorenzo,
My first Rio experience was in 1993. I personally can't stand to be around Copa anymore because of the saturated masses of gringo sex-tourists. Things have changed A LOT, just in the last several years.
As great a place like Rio, word gets around. It's inevitable. As we are all just trying to return the favor, contributing back to the info we acquired here on the Forum, reporters are only making things worse in actuality. But, what do you do. I cringe to think what Rio will be like in another ten years.
The good news is that there's always a new breed of fresh young girls to be had each and every year. Rio is never short on working girls. It's supply and demand. The more money the gringos bring in, the more masses of girls will be motivated to travel out from the countryside to earn a portion of it. I personally don't enjoy girls that have been "in the market" for over two years. Talk about a spoiled standard.
The worst day in Rio is still better than the best day with a high class hooker in the USA. Even with the masses of gringos, I think it'll take another 50 years for Rio to get as bad as the best day in my home town.
Exec Talent
09-06-04, 17:38
How times have changed. I have been to Rio a several times this year but never made it to Help. Decided to make a few visits this time. Have to agree that overall the quality of women has declined considerably over what I remember from prior years. Of the 300-400 woman there on any given night only about 10-20 merit a second look. Also have to agree about the pricing. Average girls were asking R$300. One exceptional hottie told me R$400 for 2 hours.
Did have a good time with Flavia who is 1/2 Japanese, extremely fit and dresses very well and Kelli a 4' 10" dark haired cutie with a perpertual smile, push-up bra and tiny butt.
During my visits to Help saw a lot of girls go home empty handed.
Met another cutie Julie at L'uomo. Very sweet.
Hey Exec, was Flavia a very pretty lady, around 27-30? I had a bad experience with a half-Japanese Help girl (how many can there be?) during my last trip. She was very lackluster once we got to the hotel and refused to do bbbj, which is a requirement for me. I cancelled the session and to avoid any hassle gave her $100R for her time, for which she was still insulted.
Bango Cheito
09-07-04, 07:06
Ditto on Elis at L'uomo. She's from Minas, Brazilian white trash at its best. Love the braces. She seems to really be into guys asses too, although personally I didn't allow the finger, just the tongue :)
Day one in Rio.
Arrive from the airport to the hotel around 11:00 A.M.. I was able to check in and I told my friends that I needed some sleep. I couldn't sleep on the plane.
About 4:00 P.M. I woke up and gather my friends and headed off to Luomo's. Stopping at the citibank first and withdrawing R$1,000. As reported before Luomo's now only accepts c/c for non garota activities. The good news is all the girls I had at Luomo's more than satistfied me. Also, since it was Saturday night the free buffet was outstanding.
Sorry guys but most of the girls I took up on this trip, the names I have forgotten. If I remember the names I will include it in my report. One more thing, all the garotas asked me not to submit photos, so out of respect I will not download any pictures. Since we all have our own taste, maybe it is for the better.
The lady at the desk and the doorman remembered me from last year. In fact the doorman told us to come back on Thursday because it was going to be their 24 anniversary and that they would have a free buffet. Something to look forward too.
I ended up taking two girls to the room one at a time. The first girl was a mullata short and very fun in the room. For the life of me, I can't recall her name. The second girl I took to the room, not sure if it was Vicky that a previous poster wrote about. Anyways she is tall, blond hair and very pretty. Only turn off was her teeth. She had one black tooth and it showed when she smiled. None the less, she was also fun in the room.
After two girls for the night I decided that was it for me so I went into the lounge area and sat in one of the chairs waiting for my friends to finish. About 20 minutes of sitting, a girl who is not my type, sits on my lap. I tell her I already had two girls and I couldn't do it again. She said she didn't care that she liked me and would wait forever. Yeah right! Why is it the one you don't want, is the one who always pays the most attention to you?
I tried for an hour to get rid of her to no success. I even told her I had a girlfriend there but she said it was okay. Finally my friends were ready to go and I was able to leave. All I could think about was not returning to Luomo's only because I didn't want to get latch onto by this chick. There were a few other girls that I wanted, but just thinking about this chick was scaring me.
Two of my buddies hooked up with Luomo's girls and they decided to go to a regular club in Lapa. I do not know the name. My other buddy went to Help. I went to the hotel to sleep. From my first couple of trips, I know pacing is very important in brazil.
Day one, two girls and one pain it the ass. Not bad for a start in Rio.
Exec Talent
09-07-04, 09:04
Doc,
Does sound like the same woman. I avoid discussing sex acts in my reports because even in Rio, YMMV. I had a good time with her and would see her again. I will mention that she doesn't smoke or do drugs, which for me is a big plus.
High on Hobbyin
09-07-04, 12:07
Does anyone know of a decent travel agency in Sao Paulo (or Rio if need be) that can help with side trip flights? I'm going to Sao Paulo this trip but may take a side trip to Brasilia or back to Rio, but won't be able to book for another 2-3 weeks. Please note: I don't speak Portuguese. Could most of the major hotels be able to help me with this? ...Or is it cheaper to book before leaving the US?
Sorry I did try searching the Brazil thread several times with no luck (And I distinctly remember some local travel agent being mentioned 2-3 years ago on the Rio thread.). I apologize for interupting, but unfortunately I need to book a long and convoluted trip within the next 8 hours. The last portion of which will be a nice detour to Brazil!!!
Thanks for any help!
Trendy Andy
09-07-04, 16:40
Gentlemen,
First, sorry for my bad english. I'm from Germany, so english is not my first language. I have to thank - I have learned so much from this forum. So I hade the courage to visit Rio in spring 2004.
Stayed in the hotel "copacabana mar" in Leme/Copacabana for a week. It is girl friendly, when you book a double room there are no additional costs for a guest. They have to show their ID at the desk. Room charge was about 50 USD incl. breakfast.
First night logically "Help". It was amazing, but there are to much darker gilrs IMO. I´m in the morena type. At 4.00 am, had a lot of fun, I went home with a 22 years old morena. 150R for about 3 hours. It was o.k. but nothing special.
O.K. to cut a long story short: I have visited a lot of regular discos, for example "People Lounge", "Bunker94", "Bombar" , “S-Club” , “The Bed Room”, and a few else and it was disappointing. I´m in my early 30´, goodlooking, athletic. But when you don´t speak portugues don´t waste your time hunting for normal girls. So the program often finished with entering “Help”. It is hard for me, because I don´t like the chart-music, I like house and techno music. Prices are from 100 – 200R for short time ( 2 hours). Maybe late in the morning it is a little bit cheaper, because the girls must make some money. I don´t like all nighters, so I don´t have try this. Best time to show up is around 1:00 – 1:30. The money eating ones are home for round one and you can have a lot of fun with the party girls who are in holiday too. These girls do not have to make money, they often joying “Help” because it is in a good area and they don´t know other discos. So I hooked up for 3 days with a 28 years old morena from minaus gerais. I have paid for food und buyed her a perfum. One day she found out it was my birthday and surprised me with a birthday-cake. Very, very nice.
One Day on the beach I met two guys from Sao Paulo, Thai-Boxer and very athletic. They teached me how to approach the women on the beach. Do not seat – only stand around, walk a little and when you see a “victim” just stare hard at her and if she answer (and often she will) sit down next to her, put some suncreme on her and talk to her. Don´t care what people think about you when you move in slow motion wrap your head around like a eagle owl – it is normal here! Hey, by the way, of course you have to speak some portugues!!!
To meet normal girls in Rio a friend told me a good choice is to sign up short-term membership in a gym. Make your appointment with the girls, the girl knows in advance, that your are not speaking portugues and it doesn´t matter.
I will definitely return to Rio in spring 2005 for 3 weeks minimum. I will rent an apartment instead a hotel room. I will sign up in a gym and will improve my Spanish and hope this help.
Thanks again for supporting me with informations!
For discos and similars : www.riofesta.com.br. www.funrio.com.br.
High on Hobbying: Depending on how many legs you're travelling, it could be a lot cheaper to use an air pass, which must be bought in the US before you go. I'm flying Rio-Recife-Buenos Aires for US 450. This would have cost me over US 1000 had I bought them individually once in Brazil.
Hey fellas,
I've been to Rio approx 6-7 times so I have a pretty good comfort zone with the city. I've been to nicaroy(I know i misspelled the name)or across the bay once. Went there with a chick. Has anyone gone there and got into any action? I like it because i saw no other gingos there but myself. There were plenty of girls there and i do supect that if approached the right way good things will come. I find most of my girls in the malls, termas and help every now and then. Mall girls are not to difficult to get if you put in the time and smile, of course the R$ helps to. lol.
Any info. on Nicaroy or Nitiroy would be appreciated.
carlos91.
Yeah, that's her. Please note that it wasn't just the bbbj issue that made me cancel the session and send her out. It was her overall attitude, which just plain sucked.
Day 2
Sunday, nothing planned for today so my friends and I went to Corvovado, or however it is spelled. We left around 14: 00 and the taxi took us up the mountain. Last time I was here, you had to either take the trolley, or hike up the mountain. Now, the taxi can take you up to where the trolley stops on top. Spent about 45 minutes there, and on the ride back down, the taxi driver stopped at the heliport. We weren't going to go at first but we asked what the prices were. For R$60 we were to get a 3 minute flight around the statue and back. What the hell, we went on the helicopter and away we went. The pilot was cool and our ride lasted at least 10 minutes with him taking us up and down the coastline. I tipped the guy r$ 50 and was very satisfied with the ride.
It was now about 18: 00, we decided to eat at Marius. It is still a great restaurant but not my favorite anymore. It seems this restaurant now charges more than any fancy churasco around. Don't get me wrong, the food and service is still good, but there are better and cheaper.
After dinner since we were so close to the strip bars, we went into Franks bar. This is the first time for all of us at the strip bars on Princess Isabella. We had heard about the two girl show here and were disappointed that on Sundays, there are no shows. Oh well, there were a few douable ones and I hooked up with a girl who was about 5'7" black hair and slim. My friends were able to meet girls that met their requirement and when it was time to leave, they all asked for r$300. I told them no way but my buddies wanted to take there girls, so I finally caved in.
Back at the hotel, she was nothing great, but nothing bad either. I doubt if I go back to any strip bars in Rio again. I was not impressed. First, we didn't know how much the drinks cost, nobody explained if there was a take out fee. There was r$50 to the bar. Lastly the girls would not come down from the initial r$300. My girl stayed until 3: 00, I told her she could leave. I don't like tln. When I asked my friends how there girls were, they sounded like me, nothing special.
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Day 3, Monday, great the downtown termas are open. We leave Coppacabana and catch the metro at the last stop near Luomo's. The cost for the ride to centro is r$2. It was about 12: 30 in the afternoon and decided to eat lunch somewhere downtown. The stop you get off on is Uragania. There will be a market place when you come up the escalators. We found Rua Bueno Aires and walked up the street knowing it is too early for 4x4.
We went over to the street terma 65 is on and found a restaurant with many people inside. It was a by the kilo lunch place. I didn't get the name but for the price and taste of the food, I give it two very high thumbs up. My plate with tons of beef came out to r$6. 00. The drinks are separate and so are desserts. So for over $2. 00 usd I had a very satistfing meal. A happy meal in the U. S. A. would be double that.
After lunch we went into 4x4. It was around 14: 30 so we thought we would the first ones in. Can you imagine? There were guys more horny than us. There were at least 10 guys in the bar area. The place was not crowded at all. Sitting there drinking and shooting the breeze, more and more girls started to show up.
Finally I see a girl who looks good. Her name is Deborah, blond hair, thins waist, and a big behind. Her service was better than average but not spectacular. I can't really recommend, but I can't say anything bad because she tries really hard to please.
After the session, I go to the back bar to chill. Within 10 minutes, a very thin pretty girl is sitting next to me. She is hot, but I was just to tired to go up again. So I did the next best thing, making out with her for an hour or so. I told her up front I would not be going to the room with her today. She had no problems with that.
When my friends saw her, they commented that she looked like Jennifer Love Hewitt. After the hour I told her I was going to SP the next day but I would like to see her either Thursday or Friday when I get back. She said she would like that. I gave her r$30 for the time she spent with me making out. Hopefully I don't get flamed, but I thought it was the right thing to do.
After 4x4 we walked back to the metro station and pass a guy making kabobs on a barbeque. We stopped and again, had a good meal at a cheap price.
Back in Coppacabana two of my buddies went to Help. The other had one of the 4x4 girls come back to his room. I wanted something different, so I ordered take out from Karla models.
I picked Heloisa. She was prompt but her face was not all that. She was into pleasing, but I'am a very visual guy and the face really didn't do it for me. Her service was great and I couldn't complain about the price. r$100 for two hours. Plus r$40 for taxi. All I can say is she tried really hard but I wished they could show the faces on the photos. Again, for the price, I can't complain.
Tomorrow, off to Sao Paulo.
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Quackup,
Your reports are worthless if you don't remember names and, especially, prices. You had a couple of girls at L'uomo whose names you can't remember, then your buddies went to a club in Lapa, whose name you can't remember. Moreover, you don't report on what their experiences were at this unnamed club. What purpose does such a report serve other than to gratify your ego? Why do you think anyone would give a fuck about what you reported? If you're going to spend your time posting a report and have others spend our time reading it, at least expend a little effort and try to remember and report details that will be useful to this site's users.
Lorenzo
Carlos 91
Niteroi is across the bay from Rio you can get there by car or by ferry. There are tons of girls there as it is a middle class suburb of Rio. Many women who live in Niteroi work in downtown Rio in the office buildings during the day.
I am now exchanging email with some women who live in Niteroi. I am setting up dates for my upcoming trip, lunch dates and dinner dates. Even though I have been writing in Portuguese you would be surprised as to how many want to try out their English on me and some are even English teachers. All beautiful and very nice.
This upcoming trip I think I am going to concentrate my efforts on normal girls as opposed to the programmas but I'll probably end up in Help at the end of the night anyway.
Latina Addict
09-08-04, 22:42
OK guys,
The freaking shit on the shoes deal/scam is still alive and well. On the side stree east of the Marriot last week, some little shit squirted some nasty looking shit on my shoes that turned out to be a combination of grease and mayo. Of course right away some little fuck offered to clean my shoes for 20 reals. I then knew my enemy and went freaking psycho on his ass. I started yelling at the top of my lungs I was going to kick his ass in spanish (note NOT english) and I started going after him like I WAS going to kill him. Funny thing tat another guy, much bigger, could have kicked my ass. Maybe, maybe. Also got a very startled look and started running too. Funny since he was apparently, initially any way just a bystander. They both hauled ass. Remember guys, the scam is usually another guy will rob you during the cleaning. Be careful, as I was just out to buy more condoms. See, it IS a pussy story!
Latina Addict
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Manu Ginobili
09-09-04, 03:05
Hey guys,
just got back and wanted to mention first of all for the newbies, termas are the closest thing to the perfect sexual institution that you will find. For this reason, Rio is a must. The girls in Centaurus, 4x4 etc, are simply some of the sexiest girls in the industry at any price, coupled with the environment in the termas, it is just a must for any monger worth his weight in KY jelly. Now Bobby from blame it on rio saved my ass. My flight thorough miami got cancelled because of the hurricaine, and he found me another flight at the last minute, basically saving my job. Aside from this, this guy is a great person and he will really make your life easy. He saves you so much work, you basically call him, show up, your place is ready and you can get right down to business, he has drivers, guys to order escorts for you, etc. I do not work for him, if you go there, you will know why I endorse his services and why so many mongers will show up to his door and express nothing but love and affection for the guy. Anyway, here's to rio, from an experienced monger, still the best place to hobby.
Lorenzo, Sorry, I guess that is why you are a senior member and I'am not. I didn't include prices for the termas girls because it has been discussed before and these prices are set. There is no negotiating like at help or on the street. Since I did not go to the club in Lapa, how could I write a report on it. The point being, the terma girls were willing to go with my friends after work. It isn't just a job for them, but they want to have fun also.
How important are the girls names? With the exception of the superstar performer, and on the other spectrum the worst performer or rip off, that is debatable. But you are right, I will try to be more informative. And no, I do not write these post for my ego. I was trying to provide information in a long winded approach.
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Hi to everyone,
I am in the process of preparing my first trip to Brazil, starting obviously with Rio (I'll take it from there). Even though I will only be departing in December, I cant wait and start preparingp. I am therefore going through these pages on Rio and would thank everyone for all the info.
I have also found a different site/forum that is entirely devoted to Brazil, covering all the theme you could think of (ie a site not centered on hobbying but on Brazil) and providing good/complementary info. If anyone is interested, do not hesitate to PM me (ie we're not allowed to post alternative websites here).
If anyone is in the vincinity as of 13/12 and would be interested to have a sidekick to hit the different places, do not hesitate to contact me as well (in fact, I would welcome this particularly at night, as it seems not really safe to roam the streets alone past sunset).
Greeetings,
Rio Bob,
Thanks for the info, I really do like Niteroi and want to explore it even more. I'm planning on making my next trip in the mid part of Nov., let me know if you are going to be there around that time frame. I do agree with you on the amount of great looking women there and if they are non-pros, all the better. Don't get me wrong, I have much love for the pros and ending the night at Help would be no problem at all, its a great place to have a lot of fun. I will give R$200 for a SUPER STAR but I try my best to keep R$150 or better, and the R$150 will be for a lady who is a 8-10. The last time I went to Niteroi, I took the Hydrofoil there and it only cost R$3.00 per person, do you know what time at night the boats stop running? Also, do you have any info. on how much a hotel room would cost there? I would think less than Copa, but you never know.
Carlos
Rio Bob,
I was just wondering HOW you got into e-mail contact with your ladies from Niteroi. Some time ago I was doing a bit of chatting within my own (European) country, and just by coincidence there was a girl from brazil. We had nice and long conversations, first via internet, later via telephone, later face to face and body to body. Luckily she was in France at that time, and we found a way to actually meet each other.
But as I said, this was just by coincidence. What kind of services do you use to find your contacts? Just curious, thanks!
I hope to back in brazil in about two months!
Pyjama
My experience is it is best to avoid a confrontation with the shit flingers--I lost my temper, and found myself surrounded by a pack (remember the "runts" from City of God?)
Keep your cool, not worth getting stuck over! These little guys are faster and tougher than you'll ever be
trendyandy
First of all you do not need to apolagize for your English, it is very good. I wanted to say thanks for those websites that you posted as lately I have been trying to remember the name of a disco that I went to in Copacabana last April and when I checked out one of those websites you posted I found it, thanks again.
Bob.
Quackup
Not that you need my approval or anybody else's but I think you did the right thing about giving that second garota 30 reais for the DFK as she spent her time with you. When you get a chance tell us about SP as I am curious about SP.
Bob.
Exec Talent
09-10-04, 14:36
Very interesting Help experience. Had a good time with Pamela -- about 5' 2" coal black hair done 50's style with flips at the ends. Dresses very well and as is my preference, doesn't smoke. Nice girl, great time and would recommend.
Went back for Round 2 and picked out a very hot young thin, fair, brown-haired girl. We get back to the room where she shows me ID - just barely 18. She is keeping her bra on so I asked her why. Turns out she is lactating. Because she is so hot I was ready for an attitude. Far from it. She has some awesome talents for 18 and was as sweet as they come. She says she has some pics on a website, but I was unable to find them. I will check again and post if I can.
Not being as young as I used to be, I bought some Viagra while here. I have yet to use it. Seems to me that its purpose is to bring blood into the lower regions. Well, doesn't oral sex do that? Maybe the Viagra commercials should say - if your wife doesn't do oral ...
You can get it easily just by asking at a pharmacy. Comes in 25, 50, 100 mg tablets. As with most pharmaceuticals, you can negotiate a better price. I ddn't because I was marveling, as I usually do, at how easy it is to get what would normally be presciption drugs here.
Hi guys,
I want to go back to Rio sometime in the spring of next year (after carnaval) , but nobody i know wants to go with me, not because im a dick (i hope), but because no one has the funds, so if anybody is going over around same time and would like to meet up with another monger to do the rounds pm me.
All I can say is WOW! This place is amazing!!!
Got in yesterday, and after some rest from a 11 hr flight, decided to hit my 1st terma. Decided on monte Carlo. I got there a little earlier than most, about 5pm or so. about 9 girls or so at the time ranging from blonds to coco brown. Was latched onto by an older Loriha ( did i spell that right?) blond, with a great body, sans the face. bought her a drink, talk a bit, and excused myself to get rid of her. Then walked in this incredible tanned Garota with a perfect natural rack 34C/D ( see photo) short blond hair, and i thought i had died and gone to heaven!
I quickly swooped in and off we went upstairs. MC is arranged kinda wierd in that you have to go up and down 4 to 5 different levels (Locker room, showers, boite, etc..). Anyway, Kelly and I ended up in a 2 hour session! Just incredible.
start off with a BBBJCIM for about 30 minutes non-stop, then a second round of mutiple Cow Girls positions, and finally finished up tapping that ass ( anal). i didn't think i had it in me for 3 rounds, but dayum she was fine! Pardon the bad pic quality, only had my cell phone at the time. Will post others later.
All in all there were at least 4 other solid 8 to 9's in the house. Scheduled to hook up with her again back at my hotel the Princess Copacabana on Sat.
Although dead spent, i hit HELP, and was midly impressed. Was shocked at how aggressive some of the garota can be in there. Although certainly not necessary, I tend to be a clothes horse, and gotta dress when I go out, which added with the fact that it was a off night (thurs) during the winter made me stick out even more. Granted I loved the attention, but kinda off a hassle having to dip garota all night as I looked for that perfect one. Hell if i'm gonna spend my cash on something that i'm not really feeling. Plus you gotta sort through to see who's got a good attitude, who's truly gonna be a freak when you get them back, and then come to terms on how much. HELP is a little bit more work than i had anticipated, but a good time none the less.
Although by the end of the night i was told that i was getting a rep as stuck-up since i kept politely turning garota down that i wasn't feeling. i say fuck-um, what the hell do I care what they think! Bitches are funny!! Anywho, did settle on a Shania Twain look alike named atonia, off we went at 3:30am.
i will post details and photo of her later. Getting ready to hit 4x4 later tonight.
Also, one other interesting point is that i met the infamous porn star Labrada in front of HELP as well. Got her digits yesterday, talked a bit today, and will probably hook up tomorrow. For those interested, PM me for her digits if you want. Figured i gotta see what all the hype is all about. But she does work it in her movies though.
more to come.
mj
Ps - I highly reccomend Princess Copacabana as hotel for stays!!!
Day 6, back to Rio,
Flew back to Rio from Sao Paulo on Gol again. After checking in back at the Rio Rioss, we went to the Rio Sul shopping mall. I had to buy last minute sovenirs. I had heard that this place had many fine women and that they were very friendly. I bought a few bikinis for some of my girlfriends back home. The young hot chicks working the stores didn't seem to friendly until I started speaking or at least trying to speak Portuguese. So all of you thinking of coming here, learn at least the basics. I had much better service once they saw I was at least trying to speak in their language. One even told me that when I come back next year, she would help me practice. So yes they are friendly once you meet their comfort level.
After the mall, we dropped off our goods at the hotel and headed for the 24th aniversary of Luomo's. Nothing special. In fact, it seemed like we were there on a Saturday night with there free buffet. Instead of the beef, they served chicken. I can't complain, I ate like a pig. One thing, the place was more packed than the Saturday before.
I hooked up with a girl whose name I can't remember. What's new? It seems like every girl name from Luomo's, I can't remember. All I know, she said she would give me a great massage and with all the traveling, it sounded good to me. She took my key and when she came back, she told me there was only the small room availiable. Since it was crowded and we had plans to go to help after Luomo's, I said that was okay. If any of you are asked to go to this room, just say no!
The room was so small it didn't have a bed. Just a small mattress on the floor. Laying down, if I raised my hands above my head, I would be touching the wall. Since the clock was ticking, we made the best of it. She gave me a superb massage and the sex after was just as good. The phone rang and it was off to the best showers in Rio. The showers in the mens room.
After the shower, got with my friends and headed to help. I know a lot has been written about help. Here is my take. I think we have been spoiled. Many of the girls, if we saw them back home, we would be trying hard as heck to hook up with them. Because of the abundance of good looking women here, we always want something better. We have, or at least I have, become more picky! I'am not sure if the quality of the girls of help has gone down, or our expectations have risen that much higher.
First we sit outside and had a drink. Not much to look at, so after an hour we head inside. The place was jumping. Many of the girls who I would do were hooked up already. Since my friends and I already nutted at Luomo's, we said unless a superstar comes along, we would just go back to the hotel for some well deserved sleep. We stayed there until 3:30 and called it a night. We didn't take anyone home but we had a blast anyways. Just talking with the girls in the club was alot of fun. I just wished I had spoken price, just so I would know the going rate when we come back tomorrow. Even just dancing with the girls was fun, especially with no pressure on our part to take them home.
Finally a good nights sleep.
Quackup
Turf Builder
09-11-04, 14:53
Quackup and Lorenzo
I found Lorenzo's scolding on the harsh side. Your apology is gracious considering that you have a right to say or not say what you want about your experiences. As for ego, these trip reports ooz it. Is there ego in any of Lorenzo's reports?
There seems to be alot of psychic gratification going on given the vivid sexual detail of many reports, so why single out someone to give a hard time to? Their report did not meet your criteria? If so, just move on. Perhaps the apology should go the other way.
Turf Builder
Exec Talent
09-11-04, 16:31
Some nights you should just go home alone. Have done it a couple times recently after being at Help all night. Last night should have taken one of the reliable girls instead of exploring new territory or gone home alone. Hopefully this will help someone else avoid:
Sandra -- 5' 6", black hair, nice figure, simply awesome bubble butt, bright smile, high cheekbones. My radar started to go off in Help when there was no close contact, no kissing. The experience became so sterile at the hotel that I put an end to it, paid up and sent her on her way. Like some of you here, I make sure the girl enjoys herself and usually get paid back in spades. With the effort she put forth, this girl should have paid me. Also, she has condoms that rival Hefty 3-ply. Another thing that should have clued me in was the girls she hangs out with; they all had that cliquish high school attitude.
Layla -- 5' 4", mulatto, thin with distinctively highlighted eyes - they kinda glow when she looks at you. Weak performer all around. Was willing to add some services for significant R$. Her basic services get you there, but not in too much style.
While it seems you can find some gems in Help these days, and looking used to be half the fun, they generally want too much for too little. If you are not looking for someone to spend the night (I am not) a termas seems to be such a better deal.
Day 3
Just really waking up now from an all-nighter with Labrada and Michelle, monte carlo girls who also do quite a bit of porn movies as well. I was surprised in that I had only planned to hook up with Labrada after meeting her in front of Help.
Our session started out back at my hotel. She definitely lives up to her reputation and on screen skills. nice long deep BBBJ, dirty talking ( "call me a *****, ****, a dirty *****, etc.." which I found a little odd), and every positon we could come up with.
We took a break and just chatted for a while, so I could recharge up. For our second round we went out on the little patio of the aprt-hotel (princess Copacabana) where she bent off the railing aking me to come fuck ass as long and as hard as I could. I glad complied!!! She was amazing. Surpisingly a little shy at taking any nude photos ( i'll post pics later). Now keep in mind no money has ever been discussed yet.
We got dressed and went over to her apartment down the street. This is where she introduced me to Michelle, and part 2 of the night begins. So at this point my take is that they really just want someone to wine and dine them and take them around to clubs all night. I was definitely up for it, what the hell. We grabbed a taxi and went to several clubs ( Barronetti, club 6,et..) and ended the night back at Help at 4am.
Went back to the Princess, but was told I couldn't have both up to my room. So we walked up the street to a love motel called the vanity. It was a little on the expensive side I thought for what we got ( $200R), but at that point I really didn't care. Although by this time I'm dead tired, but still up to go again.
Michelle begins on me with a BBBJ while Labrada is licking my balls. They go at it for a good ten minutes or so, and then begin DATY to each other. I get behind labrada and her nice big bunda, and hit it for a long as I can. By this time I'm spent, and just fall out after finishing up.
We all fell asleep, and in the moring (afternoon really 12:00) we go at it again, with me taking turns hitting them both anally. Still no mention of money. granted I spent a good bit on taxis, drinks, bottle of champagne, hotel for a night, etc. So I ended up handing labrada C-note US, she she didn't blink. All in all a great night, and a chance to live out a fantasy of being with 2 gorgeous garota / porn stars.
Plan on trying to hook up with Kelly again tonight to continue are photo session, or try out Rio Antigo!
Day 7, last full night in Rio.
After getting a great sleep for once, we decided to head downtown again. Walked to the metro, had lunch at the by the kilo place again and my friends went to 4x4. I went alone to 65. To my surprise, there were a few stunners there. As I was relaxing, an old familiar face appears. Her name is Marcella. She is about 5'9" black hair and almost looks oriental.
I had been with Marcella for three days the last time I was in Rio. She is a really sweet kid. I had lost her number when I broke my phone in the States, but she gave me her number again, and told me not to lose it again. I told her this was my last night in Rio and she said she wanted to stay with me that night. I told her because of my friends we would be going out all night. She then offered to drive us to the airport the next day, but I know she lives quite a way from Rio, so I refused ever so softly.
We went up to the room for an hour. Sex, catching up on our lives, and more sex. It's funny how some people you can click with. Anyways, after we were done, we spent another hour in the bar area and then I told her I had to meet up with my friends.
She walked me down to the locker and stayed by my side while I was paying the bill. One long kiss at the door and off I went. If I didn't get another girl tonight, that's okay, right now I'am feel good, I'am feeling strong.
I go into 4x4 meet up with my friends. They wondered what took me so long. They figured it out. Since I was at 4x4 I went looking for the girl who looked like Jennifer Love Hewitt. The waitress in the back bar told me she had gone home to celebrate the upcoming independence day. Another day I would be disappointed, today no problem.
We decided to leave around 6:00, took the metro back, then went to dinner at Porcau in Ipanema. Another very good churasco. Cheaper than Marius just as good. Even the ice cream was good. Some of the places we had ice cream at, tasted more like ice milk. Yuk. Actually if you like ice cream, both Marius and Porcau were excellent.
After dinner, we went shopping in front of help. The Island in the middle of the street. Bought some cheesy shirts and a pretty cool map made in leather. We then took the gifts back to the hotel and since it was still a bit early for help, we went to Meia Pataca. It started to rain on us, the only rain on our trip, thank God. We found a table and check out the scene. It's funny, last time I came it was summer time. There were ton's of girls walking around the patio area. Tonight there only seemed to be a handful. After a little while, three girls sat at the table next to us. I swear, they looked like they were all 15. I told my guys not to even look. Didn't need any trouble being this our last night.
Finally around 12:30 we go into help. It was packed. We did the club thing, dancing talking, but no mention of going back to the hotel. Around 3:30 I'am thinking we better get hooked up soon. My friends get hooked up. The girl who I should have taken back is now dancing with another guy. So I finally ask a girl who was from Sao Paulo to go home with me. She said $200. I said Reals? She said no, $200 usd. I started to laugh and told her just last night the girl went home with me for r$150. Of course I just said that, but she said she would not take anything less than $200usd. I told her thanks but no thanks.
I was ready to walk out when an attractive blond heads me off. She wanted to know if I wanted company back at the hotel. She also wanted $200. She was from Sao Paulo also. No thanks.
As I'am walking back to the hotel alone, I'am thinking, when I was in Sao Paulo I did pay r$500 to the first girl and r$600 to the second. Here in Rio, my mind set, said no more than r$200. Good thing I got my nut off at 65 earlier. I wasn't dressed to the 9's but somehow the girls thought I was rich, or stupid or both. At least the girls that approach me were pretty good looking. Another good night sleep.
Quackup
Exec Talent
09-12-04, 21:58
Centaurus - pay up front either R$290 cash or R$305 credit card. This gets you entrance, nice room (no shower or bathroom) and a girl for 40 minutes. This is all explained in English on a sheet at the front and the woman at the entrance spoke English very well.
As soon as you enter you go to the locker when a girl will offer to help you. I always say thanks, but no thanks since I don't like getting pressured into the first girl I meet. There is a sweet older woman too, who I would love to have come home to cook dinner, who takes care of the room. I always give these people a few R$. Makes a big difference to them.
Went upstairs to check out the relax room and the bar. Pretty good selection and the drinks were about the same price as Help - R$8 for a Hi-Fi. Made my selection, Milema, ordered her a drink and chatted for a little while in the bar and relax room. We talked about the services she provided and when I asked if she was completa she initially said no, then said it was possible. My policy is if they don't like it, I don't go there.
Off we went to the room where she continued to be a major sweetheart. Had a great time and would definitely see her again. I really like that she helped me on with my robe as we were leaving.
Milema is 19, 5', black hair, fair skin, very cute with an incredible body. She says she sometimes also works at Help on Sundays (when Centaurus is closed).
BTW, the girls have learned from McDonalds to try to get you to buy the fries with that. As we were heading to the room, a few girls asked if we wanted another girl.
My advice, unless someone has other ideas, is to choose the smaller room (which is really not that small). The girl showers before she joins you and there are showers downstairs if you need them. The difference is R$150 which includes is also for one hour. One things I didn't find out was if you could have the smaller room for one hour as well.
final day, all good things must come to an end.
what is it with the brazillian girls just loving guys with blond hair and blue eyes? my friend picked up a girl from help and she didn't even charge him. i notice when we were in help the night before, it seemed all the girls would zoom in on him before turning their eyes on me or my other friend.
our flight back to l.a. wasn't until 9:30 so we checked out and had the hotel watch our luggage until it was time to leave. we walked to a restaurant called the siguera campos grill. the restaurant is on the same street as luomo's but closer to av atlantica. the food was okay, nothing bad nothing great. it was by the kilo. the restaurant in centro was much better and it was cheaper.
after lunch, my buddy with the girl from help went to the movies, my other buddy and myself went to monte carlo. it was a little after 2:00. when we got there the place was closed. a guy outside told us they open at 3:00. we then walked to av coppacabana and went to the sex shop peep show place across from the park. not sure what the name of the place was but i remember reading about it in previous post.
i remember reading where you could do some nasty things to the girls if you pay for the tokens for 3 minutes or so. there was a guy there who spoke english and gave us a tour. upstairs is where the live girl are. but when he showed us the rooms, there was a big glass window and a little slot where you could slip in some tips. i asked if there was another room where you could touch the girls and he said no. maybe this is a different place than was posted before. he also told us, any of the girls would be availiable for take-out after 9:00. we told him thanks and left. the girls in the place were nothing spectacular. maybe just the wrong day.
we then took a taxi to meia pataca and chilled out until 3:15. i did meet a girl there who looked like the daughter of danny glover in the movie lethal weapon. i told her this was my last day and she gave me her e-mail address. i told her one year is a long time but i will write her and see what happens.
after saying goodbye, we go to monte carlo again. this time it is open. the plan is to expend as much energy here so we could sleep on the plane ride home. i meet a cute smiling girl named karrina. this girl was nasty, and i mean that in a good way. she does everything and she wants to make sure you are satistfied. she even rims the hell out of you. going to the cabina, i thought i would tear her up. no way, she tore me up. just what i needed for the last day.
then it was off to maruis for our last meal. we met up with my other buddy, still with his girl from help. we even saw some guys we met at the hotel telling us how their flight home was cancelled because of the hurricane. they had to spend two more days in rio. lucky them, why couldn't that have happened to me?
in closing, if you are reading this board and have never been to brazil, go! you will not find a place that has more passionate girls than here. i have not been to argentina but i plan on going next year. thailand is good and less expensive, but overall for me brazil is the place.
next stop if everything goes right, cuba.
quackup
The Rio Kid
09-13-04, 05:36
Quackup,
I'm not surprised I'm not the only one who thinks that girl at quatro e quatro looks like Jennifer Love Hewitt. Other than being a bit on the thin side, the resemblance is striking.
Actually, I got to know her pretty good. Her name is Barbara (she has another name that I won't reveal), but I told her she should change it to Jennifer "porque voce parece atriz dos estados unidos, muito popular." I'm not sure how much of it sunk in, but I think she got the point.
Anyway, she's a total sweetheart, and we had 2 wonderful sessions. I even got her phone number, and we're supposed to hook up, but... hey, it's a Rio thing.
Reading your post, though, it appears that the money issue has gotten way outta hand. I know at Help they'll charge a bit more, but 200 bucks is 600 reals. That's crazy! I'll be there next week, and it's quite possible I won't even go into Help. And if I do, it'll be just to look. 200 reals is my limit, and she has to be the best looking girl there. Last time I was there, I picked up two girls for a 100reals. I also picked up a girl for 50reals! She told me not to tell anyone that I got her for such a paltry sum. And in both cases, it was in front of Help, and it was some of the best sex I've ever had.
The Rio Kid
Turf Builder and Quackup,
I stand by everything I said. Since you guys obviously don't know what constitutes a good reporrt, and to take myself out of this, look at Exec Talent's post of 9/12/04 on Centaurus. This could be a model of what a report should look like. The very first thing he does is tell us the price. This is useful information; now I know what I'll have to pay when I go to Centaurus and what to expect. He tells us the girl's name, describes her, and tells us what she does. Thanks, ET.
The point you guys obviously don't get is that the whole purpose of this website is to provide information about our hobby that other members can use. This involves, at a minimum, names of the girls, a physical description, what they do, and how much it costs. And addresses would be nice, phone numbers icing on the cake. Anything else is superfluous.
Lorenzo
The Rio Kid,
Yes, you are right, she is very thin. When I was hugging her I thought I would break her arms. She seemed very sweet and since you had first hand knowledge, she is on my to do list for next year. Provided she is still there.
I would still go into Help and have a good time. Remember, my friend took a pretty good looking girl out of there and she didn't ask for any payment. One thing, the girls inside help looked much better than the girls walking around outside of help. Next time, I will not wait until the wee hours to negotiate.
A couple of weeks and you will be in paradise. I envy you. Have fun!
Quackup
Quackup:
Nice series of reports.
As one who knows Cuba first hand, you maybe disappointed after visiting Rio. You're less likely to find on a consistant basis, the everything goes mentality- The "porn star sex." The Cuban babes have a passion of there own, but it does not compare to the Brazileiras. That is why Brazil is the Place for me. There is no where else i would go.
Cuba was the place to go during the mid to late eighties. It's good to go for the experience, as it's stuck in time, and almost isolated from the rest of the world. Also don't expect to find top shelf items.
Fidel has passed too many laws recently curtailing the P4P scene. I do not wish anyone be put in jail or lose their home just for being with me.
Anyone like Lorenzo who wants to diss another members comments on this board should leave. This board should be all about positive and entertaining comments. So Lorenzo, on behalf of many of us on this board, we don't need you. Aloha!
Let me second what my friend Chingon says about Cuba. It's nothing like it used to be, and definitely not a prime mongering location. It is, however, a fascinating country with the best people I've ever met in the world. For mongering, nothing compares to Rio. Buenos Aires is close, but no cigar!
Everyones 2 cents wanted. I've been to rio 6-7 times and I'm still amazed by some of the girls asking for $200-300 us cash. The highest I've been hit for is R$300 and that was two years ago on my first trip. Oh yea, a girl in barbarellas did ask for $200.00 but I looked at her like she was crazy and she settled for R$250.00, she was a perfect 10. My main question for all is do you think the girls ask for more money from white guys vs black guys? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to start a race argument, just want to try to find the mind set of the girls. From my view they seem to try to charge white males more from the start. I ran into two guys(white) in the customs line at the airport, and they stated that they could not get any girls for less than $100.00 and they had no problem paying what the girls wanted. In my favor I did take the time to learn a little of the language, plus I also have a speaking translator. That cost around $200.00 at sharper image but it is worth its weight in gold, I highly recommend it. All feed back is welcomed.
Carlos.
Thanks Chingon and Doc,
I have been to Cuba before and I met a non p4p girl there. I will be going in November so hopefully I can at least give out some good clubs to go to. This board has been a God send for my travels, and at least now I can post some reports. And yes, I know, get back to the posting of girls from Brazil (lol).
Thanks everyone,
Quackup
Cali Monger
09-14-04, 09:56
Lorenzo,
I just want to say that I could care less about the girls names. I'm not flying to Rio to look for any one girl. I'm happy to read about where to go and what to pay for what quality of girl. Any and all info is appreciated.
WickedWilly
09-14-04, 13:12
Gentlemen,
I am in Rio for a long overdue trip from 25 Sept to the 5 Oct. If anyone is around let me know and we can meet for a beer and can swop notes.
I am also trying to arrange a festa at the VIPS Millenium Suite on around the 28th, if anyone is interested in joining two fellow hobbyists and myself in eight hours of fun and debauchary please let me know.
WW
Exec Talent
09-14-04, 14:24
Snowman66,
Just an observation. There are providers of information (Lorenzo) and takers (Snowmann66). If there is anyone we would like to see go, it is people like you. Lorenzo's information always has been valuable to me. Your reports are one request for something after another.
Just an observation. I could be right.
Genghis Khan
09-14-04, 14:56
Lorenzo,
Its fine to state your opinion, but there are probably as many
opinions as there are members. I think a comprehensive report
with some non-hobby related information is useful too,
like nice restaurants, good places to exchange money, chica-
friendly hotels, nice apts. etc.
GK
Snowman66,
It's not my intention to get into a running debate with anyone, so this will be absolutely the last post I will make on this topic. You think I should leave? Before you make this judgment, use the Forum Search function to browse through my 60+ posts, and I think you'll find that I'm one of the major contributors providing substantive, and substantial, information to this section as well as to others on this website, along with members like Fartknocker, Rio Bob, Rio Nut, Exec Talent, MSJ44, Chuponalgas, and maybe a few others. Just out of curiosity I browsed through your posts and I see that you have contributed very little of substance. You ask a lot of questions and seek information from others, but you have very little, if anything, of worth to contribute youself. So when you contributions match mine or those of the any of the others I mentioned, then maybe you'll be in a position to ask someone else to leave. My whole point in bringing this up is that life is short, time is precious, so why should we waste time reading lengthy reports that don't tell us anything we can use. Case closed.
Genghis Khan,
I didn't mean to imply that other, non-monger related information, such as restaurants, hotels, money changing, hotels, apartments, etc., aren't useful and welcome. I don't think the type of reports I complain about contain anything useful.
Cali Monger,
All I can say is that you're you and I'm me. I do want to know the girls' names, for good reason: if she gave spectacular service to someone else, then she'll probably give it to me, and vice versa. So far people who have followed up on garotas I recommended haven't complained, nor do I have any complaint about recommendations I've received. The whole point of this board is information sharing.
Now let's get back to our hobby, everyone.......... :-)
Lorenzo
Been a few days since I last posted, but wanted to check in.
Got a ton of photo to post, just need to set aside some time to do so.
Anyway, to the good stuff. Hit 2 termas last night, Rio Antigo and 4 x 4. Was surpised to see what I thought was street walkers on the street for Rio Antigo. Had the taxi driver pull over, and was shocked to see that they were trannies. Had I had a little too much to drink, that would not be a good thing!
Went in to Rio Antigo and paid the $R50 cover, changed and went to the bar. I was actually a little disappopinted in the selection here. Although a few cuties in the bunch, no great bundas or rack, etc.. So I just had a drink and left to go to 4x4.
4x4 was perfect, and lived up to the hype. Had to be at least 60 to 70 girls of all shapes and sizes. My first sessions was a disaster in that I hooked up with Grissella. I would not reccommend going with her. I was initially in owe of the bunda, and the fact she had a twin that was ready to go as well. However they tried to tell me they wanted $700 real!!! Are you damn nuts!!! I had always though the prices were set, no negotiations needed. I said hell no, and moved on. Later Grissella worked her charms on me, and I gave in for $150R for an hour. I thought I was getting completa, whick turned out to be no!!! On top of that she watched the clock the whole time, and was a complainer. I just put an end to the session and moved on. Took one for the team. Ill post a pic to beware off.
Hooked up with a blond slimmy ( I normally like um thicker) who was perfect, named Diana. Hit the cabine, and did it all. 2 rounds and anal for the final round. I would highly reccommend.
All in all great time there. It did get a little crowded in the main bar since that is where most of the girls are. There is a second one that is quieter that serves food.
Definitely check your bills at the end. That Ho Grisella had bought a phone card that I was unware of for $7R and it was on my tap. Ill definitely be getting that back (just the principle) via American Express dispute.
But a great option to the other termas. Arrange some take out from there for later tonight.
Gonna try to hit solarium and use the free cabine coupon.
Have fun.
Mj
One of my all time favs who I posted on earlier, Kelly from Monte Carlo back at the Princess Copacabana
Felt like a bit of a change, so decided to check out a few Centro Termas.
Started off at ***Terma 502***. (Rua Alfandega,502, centro. One block from 4x4.). Entrada R$10 which includes at least one local drink. An hour was about R$105. They had 30 & 40 minute rates as well which I can't remember but you can sort of guess by the hourly rate.
This place is more like a boite in that when you walk in you do not change into a robe. The actually boite is quite nice and large, not as big as 4x4 but bigger than Loumo. Rooms are upstairs. When I arrived at about 6pm there were about 20 not bad looking girls. I started talking to one who was doable but I was not going out of my way to hook up with her. I finished my drink and continued to explore.
Next was ***Terma 61***. (Rua Acre,61 Praca Maua). About a 10 minute walk from 4x4. I passed the Scandinavian club and a few other boites on the way. Entrada was $R10 and prices were exactly the same as terma 502. You do not change into a robe.
This place has 2 boites. I checked out both, both were run down from what may have been a glorious past. At about 7pm there was the grand total of 2 available girls and 5 punters. I left to the half hearted plea of "there is many beautiful girls arriving soon". Be careful leaving this place late at night, the area deteriates very quickly from semi neglected buildings to badly neglected slums.
Went to ***Terma 4x4*** at about 7.30pm. Prices and address has been documented many times, I won't repeat. Now, I being a white boy tend to like my girls thin. Most Brazilian guys like them "thick like fudge". At 4x4 they tend to be 95% of the latter, as it is aimed more at the local market. Hence, my point is, I struggle to find my "type" there, despite being alot of girls available. I watched the goings on had a few cerjeva's and departed on my quest.
Next stop was ***Terma 65*** at probably 9pm. (rua do Rosario 65, Centro). A block from 4x4. Price was much more expensive than 4x4. A 40minute cabine with entrada was R$235 from memory. This is more expensive than all but Centaraus to my knowledge.(but I am sure some veteran monger will correct me ;-)
Again, with all termas in Centro, it was aimed at the local market and hence more "thick like fudge" types. About 35 girls in total, a nicer selection than 4x4 but not the quantity, IMHO. The boite is much smaller than 4x4, probably as small as say monte carlo. I bumped in to a few guys I knew and had another beer. We all sort of lined up a garotta each, but we were not really keen on any of them. Hence there was a collective decision to bail to another place back in zona sul, where we ended up having a bit of fun with Brazil's finest and parting at something like 3am, details of said activities I won't post here to protect the guilty.
Turf Builder
09-15-04, 01:49
Lorenzo and gentlemen,
The first forum FAQ
The purpose of the forum. "To facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women" A very general statement
Lorenzo your definition of what is "useful information" your term, is just that, your definition. What may be important to you, may not be important to others. You have very specific criteria, others may have different.
The point is why give a very hard time to a poster that did not meet your specific criteria? By your logic everyone posting here should be trying to meet your needs. This is unreasonable.
When I post a report on my recent trip I will share that information that I want to share. I hope it will be of value to many posters, but I am not going to attempt to meet specific criteria as defined by one poster.
Turf Builder
Bango Cheito
09-15-04, 05:14
MSJ44 I'm actually shocked you had a bad experience with the twins. Mine was absolutely one for the books. I had both of em for an hour and we did every damn thing that you can think of.
I 69ed with both of them, they 69ed each other, asian, DFK, they DFKed each other and I tapped all six holes. I guess that just goes to show how much YMMV.
I did however spring for the 700 reais. The way it works with the twins is, if you want em both at the same time you have to go to the Sultan Suite which is r350 for an hour, but they double it if you take two girls in.
I don't know why management lets them do that, but considering what was on the table I thought it was worth it. Everything else I did in Rio was insanely cheap, and I didn't wanna miss the opportunity.
I actually took one of the girls to the cabine afterwards (r150- 1 hour), the one with the scorpion tattoo on her, whichever one that was. It was still all completa all the time.
For the record, I'm not exactly Mandingo or Jake Steed but I am above average in length AND thickness.
Bango Cheito
09-15-04, 05:23
BTW MSJ empty your damn PM mailbox.
Thank you
Exec Talent
09-15-04, 15:27
Sweetheart alert! As I was standing outside of Help chatting I noticed a particularly attractive young blond. Come to find out she is best friends with Renata the 18 year-old cutie I had seen before. Are you thinking what I am thinking?
Yep. Immediately went inside and spoke to Renata about the three of us getting together. She was all for it and in a matter of minutes we were out of there. Her friend's name is Daniele. It is hard to say who is more beautiful. Renata was great alone but together they were awesome. Plus, just really cool girls.
If you are looking for girls who are just fun to be around, then either Renata and/or Daniele are great. Don't know the normal cost as I was given a very good deal without any haggling.
Exec Talent
09-15-04, 15:36
After my time with Renata and Daniele, we went back to Help. I stuck around long enough to see some of the non-performers like Sandra (who can be identified by an arm bracelet she wears around her left bicep) and others go home empty again. One of the hot looking veterans approached me and when asked how much she said R$300. This was at about 3:30 AM. I said that was too much. She worked the crowd for about another 1/2 hour and then followed me around the room. I ignored her. She stopped me at the exit and tried again. I told her I actually I was gay and was trying to pickup one of the guys who worked the door. She finally got the hint and went home empty.
While I believe in treating woman with respect, I now see more clearly what some of you guys were talking about. The rates for average looking, average performing girls at Help has gotten out of hand. Probably why the termas are so busy.
Trendy Andy
09-15-04, 17:32
Rio Bob,
Thank your for your contribution. Maybe it´s "Bunker94" you are looking for. Also a good place is "meli melo" on monday, it is located in Lapa i guess. and of course "Nuit" in Barra. I´ve never been there but a friend was enthusiastic - upper and middle class regulars, women to men 2/3 - 1/3.
Pricing:
SP is more expensive than Rio, because SP is the working zone und Rio the vacation zone. So the best looking girls are in SP to be seen because they can make more dollares with the business men. A friend he is in chemical industries, works a lot in South America. In SP it is normal paying 150 USD for short time, maybe in Rio too. Businessmen from USA or Europe trying to get their woman of their (wet)dreams, paying a lot of money for 1 or 2 hours fun in a hotel room after a hard flight and a failed deal after.
In Rio my experience is the girls try to rip-off newbies, not black or white. In "Help" at first they asking you like...is it your first time in brazil/Rio and similars. God bless all not answering -yes-! Negiotation is better running when guys telling the girls it´s the 107th time in Brazil for a 3 month vacation etc. try to be cool, check the market. The scene in Help is aggressive IMHO und a forum member said about an american highschool attitude, yes it´s true. It´s funny to watch working girls acting like a blue-blooded member of the nobility.
Trendyandy
Bango,
Thanks man!!!
I´m glad you had a good time at least. I guess when I was told about the $700R that completely put me off. Not to mention the less than enthusiastic performance my grisella ( i get them confused). But hey, maybe they were not just feeling me, who knows? But non the less, 4x4 is a great place.
Hit Solarium last night, and met one of the sexiest garota on my trip to date. Aspiring porn actress named Liassa. hella sexy. about 5´7´ morena, long brown;blond hair, perfect round bunda, nice c size rack. Got the standard cabine, which to me was fine.
I was amazed at her oral skills!! She really got in to the "Obession porn style" of giving head with alot of spit and siliva, smacking her face with my rod, deep throat to the balls, you name it. I lost it in her mouth hard.
We rested up and then she began her Completisima special. This broad took it in the ass in all sorts of ways. Must have been a gymnist at one point!!! But a great time. Actually the only one that was a scared to take photo due to management supposedly.
Her photo is one that is flashed on the tv when you enter.
Afterwards hit a non-pro club right accross the street called Cozumel. free addy and good amount of girls to practice portugese on.
No reason to pay the twins at 4X4 700R, you can get them both for 300r for one hour in a regular suite. They try to steer you towards the sultan or the kig suite because they get a bigger cut of the bill. They only try to sucker the americans, they dont try that shit with the brasilians.
I have had both of them multiple times in the normal suites, I just tell them that I dont have enough money for the sultan or even the top suites (That usually stops the begging) I have even had them come over to my apartment before they went to work for 200R a piece.
They must have just started the lesbian stuff because they weren't doing that before. Might have to take them to the room again, gotta make sure I have alot of film to catch all the action:-)
my short trip of a week to rio was one of the best i could remember in a long time. it was my first and i am hooked to this place. the food, the climate, the beach, and of course the garotas. guys, i have traveled at least half of the world, and yet to see a place comparable to rio. in terms of sheer number of pussies, bangkok is difficult to beat, but the sensual and romantic experience of rio girls is unbeatable. the information on this board is worth in gold. you do not need any more information than what is provided here in the forum. i will just summarize my experience. caution: ymmv.
atm issues: citibank rates are lower than help. it is now same what you get at the airport at the semi-official booth right after customs. looks like help is subsidizing mongers’ activities. i received 2.95 at help v. 2.87 at citibank. wsj rate was 2.90. go figure. i think help is most convenient and there is no limit. for citibank you have to walk 10 minutes from help and the limit is r$1000 per day. i am not sure if you can take out more than r$1000, although there is an option at atm.
metro: use metro. it is the best transportation rio has to offer. it is safe, clean and efficient, and you avoid sitting in traffic. one-way is r$2, two-way is r$4, fixed-price. you can get-on and -off at any station. it runs from 7am-11pm. i used it to go to 4x4, other centro termas, and to go to public mercado at uraguania station. you can shop here for all kind of souvenirs, t-shirts cds, dvds, etc. for half price of copa. i bought 10 cds (over 800 songs and music in mp3 format) and 2 dvds (brazilian porno) for less than r$80. lastly, i used it to go to airport. i had to catch a flight at 7 pm. i left copa about 4:30 pm due to other problems. my girlfriend informed me that at this time i will be stuck in traffic till the airport and i may have to come back to spend the night with her. of course, my little boy wanted to do that, but i was in no mood to miss my flight. so i took a taxi to metro station at cequeria compos (near citibank), took metro till the closest stop to gig. took another taxi and made to the counter at 5:30 (total was less than r$27). she came with me to airport to see-off. after receiving my boarding pass, we kissed and cried till the airlines called my name on pa.
girls: i think help is good for one time experience. after that i do not see a need to go inside. the music is same each day, and my shirts smell like marlboro man after spending four hours inside. i went there three days, but there is really no need. all the girls are available outside anyway. negotiation is better (cheaper) and you can carefully see and feel the merchandise in bright light. many girls also want to save money on admission fee. currently it is r$18 before midnight, and r$28 after that. same price for guys and girls.
in my experience, i saw three kinds of girls there.
1) hard-core bitches—they are not different than their counterparts in north america or europe and looking for gullible first time tourists. they go to help every day. generally, they size you up with questions like--is it your first time? how many times you have been to help? which country are you from? do you like rio? do you have hotel or apartment? can you buy me a drink? blah, blah. i suggest you avoid them and save your money. they prefer to charge more, start negotiation in usd and hours, aggressive in manners (hold your dick, dfk etc.), and lousy in providing satisfaction to you. you did not come here flying 12-20 hours for these bitches. however, if you are looking for hardcore porn fuck, sadism, threesome, [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103), anal, or some other fantasies, they may be perfect. just negotiate every detail beforehand, otherwise you may be screaming, swearing and pissed-off afterwards. i met one guy form nj. he told me he spent over usd2000 in 10 days, fulfilled every fantasy he had after watching all porn movies in his life and made video of his experience. i accidentally fell prey to one of these girls on my first night and regret it forever (my punishment for not reading previous postings carefully)
2) semi-pro/genuine pro girls who want to make decent living—they may be in this business for a couple of years, do not come to help every day, and supplement their regular job with occasional help tour of duty. some are students, recent moms, or regular workers in firms, but aware of the possibility of quick buck in this business. they tend to provide genuine service, understand the needs of mongers, do not generally negotiate reals first (leave it up to you), less aggressive than their hardcore sisters, do not watch clock, and if they like you, will stay overnight without any extra compensation. your next fuck could be free if you treat them like gf. you can take them to beach, movies, tourist spots, dinner, and dance. however, please understand that they are here for the money. so, do not con them by pretending you are their bf and by only paying for dinner and dance you are getting free pussy. pay for their services accordingly, whatever you can. both of you understand what is the current market price. most of these girls will not even count the money in front of you. some will not even take it first. you pretty much have to put in their pocket or purse as an excuse of taxi fare. keep in mind that they know what it this for. they just want to save face. one time i gave my purse with at least r$1200 in it to one great girl. i told her to take out whatever she thinks is right. she would not take anything and insisted that i give her whatever i want. i gave her r$150 next day, she went home, did her errands, came back and spent next two days and nights with me, took me to great restaurants, movie (i watched olga at rio sul with her), beach, tourist spots, even offered to pay for food bills etc. i felt obligated to give her more, and after she dropped me at the airport, i politely put all the reals i had in my purse in her jeans pocket (i did not count, but it was approximately r$600). no words exchanged about it.
3) girls who are not in the game—surprisingly there are a few of these girls there too. i met one rio girl who lives in new york, has a sugardaddy who bought her usd 1 million top floor condo next to help, had 8-carat diamond ring in her finger, and looked like expensive model from new york fashion show. she danced like maniac, and probably could have made usd1000 a night in london, tokyo or new york. but she was not working at help. she was having party with her three girl friends. she did not leave help till 6 am, danced and drank all night, and left without any guys. one south-african guy offered 1000 usd to her and friends and she refused.
most of the girls who frequent help are smarter than you and me. they size up the potential clients very quickly and make a move accordingly. i watched them in action most of the days and nights. europeans and americans have money and they know that. rarely, rich brazilians come to help. those who speak portguese, or have good negotiation skills, generally receive discount. the current market price is about r$100-150 for 1-3 hours. but, i have seen these girls charging r$400-500 for 1 hour to rich gullible tourist, especially if this is their first day in rio.
best strategy: hit terma (4x4 or monte carlo) first day. that way you can relax. when your dick is relaxed, you can think from your head. never go to help first night in town. invariably you will overpay, unless you pick a girl outside. it happened to me. when the little boy takes over, your head stops working. stay away from very aggressive girls unless you are looking for some nasty services. negotiate in reals only. tell them this is your fifth or sixth trip to rio, even if it is your first. speak some portguese or spanish words—quantos, noite, hora, bonita, etc. are very general and easy words. use them often even if you do not know the meaning. do not flash the money. you are inviting robbers. do not take taxis outside help. if a girl goes towards the taxis outside, immediately ditch her. she may be part of the setup. walk one block and hail a taxi on the road. be very respectful to cops. at 4 am, when i was in a taxi with the girl, it was stopped by the cops in a road block setup 200 meters from help. the girl was smart, told me to keep my mouth shut. she told the cops, i am an american and do not speak a work of portguese (even though i can get by and understand most conversation). the cops searched taxi, asked me where i am from, checked her purse, my pockets, pants, shoes thoroughly. i was afraid that they may frame me for bribes. i had no purse, just some r$100 in small bills. since i did not speak, cops did not bother me and let us go. i was barely able to say “obrigado”. for those of you who are planning to use 420 and stuff, do not think of using it. i have heard horror stories and their jail is just a notch above hell. do not even think about it.
art of seduction: some of you guys may understand what i am talking about. these girls are no doubt world class hookers. even the most inexperienced brazilian girl knows how to seduce a man. the way they smile constantly, the way they walk, the way they talk would melt any man. this is something to experience, no words can describe it. i teased my gf a lot about her walk and her smile. it is not only her, every girl i met, even in termas, knew what she was doing. it was mostly to seduce, probably an act, but nonetheless classy. i can honestly say i have never met girls like these anywhere in the world. they love to make love. some of them genuinely enjoy sex, especially if they like you. after i went to movie, beach etc. with my gf and even though no bucks passed hands, sex became ten times better. she had on average three orgasms per night with me. i’d like to think they were genuine, but if they were acts, they were world class. at least i could not tell the difference with her. generally, i can. my proof is the sheet was wet like water broke, and i felt contractions. i rest my case.
all the addresses and other info on terma are very accurate, thanks to other mongers, so i will not repeat. i am hooked to rio, and will be back asap. i never felt so much attraction to one city in my life. it is not just the city, it is people, girls, food and ease of transportation (most taxis are honest). the only bad thing i can say about rio is personal safety. you must be very careful and if possible, move in groups of more than two. day times are generally fine, nights are dicey at best. take taxis as much as possible.
no offense to my japanese friends, but i found out that japanese have found this place, albeit only adventurers are brave enough to come to rio, yet. my biggest nightmare and fear is that it will turn into bangkok, which is now mobbed by japanese tourists in ac buses with 100s of cameras clicking simultaneously. yen is mightier than dollars or euros and when yen inflation hits rio, this paradise will turn into a tourist hell. ave atlantica english signs will turn into kanji characters and meia pataca will turn into sushi bar. for a sample, go to honolulu and bangkok, where every hooker is fluent into japanese, and would not even talk to gringos. my gf told me that a month ago one japanese gentleman paid her 500 usd to watch her naked all night. he did not have sex with her (that is her story so do not flame me). apparantly, the gentleman had never seen a true blond pussy, so he was fascinated by the golden pubic hairs.
my final suggestion to all—do not inflate the prices; if one guy pays more, prices do not go up (like one japanese). if 10 and 100 guys start paying more, prices will rise. i saw one girl jumping up and down in ecstasy at meia pataca when my friend offered her r$150 for one hour in sex motel at 6 pm without even negotiating. i know when we make usd 40-100 an hour as a consultant, we do not care for lousy usd17. we may even assume that our paying more will somehow result into best times of our life. if there is one truth out there it is this—your paying more has no effect on her services. in fact the girl brags about her ability to extract more from the “stupid” tourist to her friends for infinitum.
finally, for a real taste of rio, try those centro termas. there are some gems there. it is safe in daytime, at least, and easily accessible by metro. all the addresses are here in the forum. i tried one 10-minute session for r$10 just for the experience. it was actually very good. when i gave her r$3 tip (i was concerned about the inflation i may cause), she almost cried, said obrigado at least five times, and kissed me like there was no tomorrow. i had to run from her.
enjoy till this paradise lasts.
The Rio Kid
09-16-04, 09:11
The twins,
Me and my partner got with them, and they were both bullshit!
Bango Cheito
09-16-04, 15:24
I'll remember that about the twins next time I go down. To tell the truth I wanted to see the sultan suite with the waterfall and the steam room and hot tub and all that shit. It was cool but the hot water wasnt hot enough in the hot tub.
:P
Exec Talent
09-16-04, 15:37
Made a mistake last night I want to pass along so everyone can avoid it.
Met a guy outside of Help who didn't have a clue. Saw him inside and he was getting hit on by some of the lesser stars. I was getting ready to leave with a girl I had been talking to all week but "just hadn't gotten to yet" and asked her if she had a friend. She brought over her friend and we all left for Vanity together. So far so good.
Inside Help my girl had asked me if I wanted her to spend the night, I told her we were not going back to my hotel only to Vanity and only for 2 hours. Well it turns out that the other guy was done in less than 30 minutes. His girl calls the room telling mine she will be waiting out front for her. Another 30 minutes she calls again. We were having a good time and there was absolutely no problem with my girl. I ended things there andgave her a slightly reduced fee. She asked me if I was going to go with her to another place or back to Help. I told her I was going back to Help but first going to talk with the guys at the front.
I like the guys at Vanity and we have had a few laughs so they knew when I wasn't laughing that I was pissed. I told them under no circumstances is anyone to call the room. They aplogized. I told them that I was going to go back to Help and would be back with another girl and did not expect to be charged. There was no problem.
In the future when I leave with two girls, they both will be with me.
hit l uomo and solarium last weekend
the available selection early on saturday at l uomo was a bit thin. i picked a shorthish mulatta, paulinha, very gentle, good bbbj no cim allowed. a good option straight out of the plane. by the way i got in from madrid direct for 1000euros on business class with a new carrier, air madrid. good service and pretty much the same cost as cattle class with any european carrier
after a little rest i was approached by a petite white brunette, lola. that was a find. lola studies drama and she is top of her class. nothing special in terms of looks but her studies and her past as a trapeze artist in a circus gave a new meaning to the "acrobatic sex" term. couple that with the fact that she insisted in giving me head for 40 minutes (cim encouraged) made it the highpoint of the weekend.
a late visit to solarium saturday evening (worst day of the week there) ended in a 40`encounter with fake blond and slightly jaded samira, a bit too porn starrish & aggresive in bed for my taste. insisted in trying out lots of different positions. felt a little offended when i passed on a 3rd pop.
back in rio tonight for 5 days, more to follow
Member #3427
09-16-04, 17:57
Matka,
Great post! I do have one question regarding exchange rates and exchanging money at HELP. I never tried to in my 2 visits there, since I don't care for the place much unless its late and I am bored and worn out from earlier.
Anway, Are you saying that inside HELP they will exchange as much US currency for Reais that I want ? I.e. I can give them $500 us dollars and they will give me Reais for that. I have only purchased drink tickets at the booths before and nver tried exchanging currency.
Thanks for the info,
The Chacal
Member #3427
09-16-04, 18:04
Looking for R$40 girl?
If youu are just looking for real cheap with quality ranging from 4-7, I happened to come across a place I found them consisently. On Prado Junior (next to Princess Isabella) one block from Av. Atlantica (right outside and around the corner from Barbarrela's) you can find three to five girls there who are not shy. If you see a female in that area around 1-2am odds are she is game. Many of them live in the apartment building right there even.
Anyway, this is not necessarily my thing, but to each his own...and I know many do enjoy the quick cheap score.
The Chacal
Matka
Great report, boy you learned a lot in one week. Just one note on the Japanese, the Japanese have found Brasil many many years ago as Sao Paulo contains the second most population of Japanese in the whole world outside of Japan. Some of the Japanese girls make it to Rio and Help at times.
Matka,
Excellent post! You have provided some excellent information for brother mongers. You seem to be a quick study and picked up some incredibly accurate information in a week.
Like you, I have fears that the phenomenon that is Rio may not last, at least in its present form. You are right on in recommending the Centro termas; I have already seen signs, as I noted in one of my previous posts, of the beginning of the downhill slide of L'uomo and Monte Carlo. Why fly thousands of miles to be around the same people you see at home?
I look forward to more posts from you.
Lorenzo
Trendy Andy
09-16-04, 18:35
Matka,
Nice report, thank you.
About garotas numero tres: Of course they are in the game, and how they do. I had a girl who want only go out for dinner in very few restaurants out of copa - because the people can think about her she is a pro. She don´t want to escort me Rio Sul shopping mall, because people probably think she is a pro. She want rarely out at night for party and when that exceptionaly happens she was voting for a boring place outside the scene.
Trendyandy
Good report Matka,
Most of everything a wrote was right on. Very good for a newbie to Brazil. Most first timers to the land of hot pussies have the same response.
One comment about the Japanese remark though. As most mongers who have been to brazil many times knows, Brazil have largest population of Japanese outside of Japan. The majority live in Sampa but you can find them everywhere. The word for an asian looking person in Brazil is Japanese. So when your girl said that the guy is Japanese may not be true.
W
CaptainNemo
09-16-04, 20:38
L’uomo
Well, this was the best termas for me in the past 2 years. However, I was disappointed by the talent level during this trip. One time, I did not even take any action. That’s how bad it gets now.
Many of girls had left. I can only recognize 2-3 girls from the beginning of the year. What’s happened to this place? I still love the setting and environment, but that’s not what I come here for.
<<Deleted by CaptainNemo to avoid offending anyone>>
By the way, there are a sister act and cousin act in L’uomo. I did not take in such action. But, if that’s your thing, don’t miss it.
I received some PMs, but I want to answer them here for others’ benefit also.
1. Inside Help, right after entrance and before the girls’ purse deposit area, a guy in suit makes the change for you. He collects your dollar bills, looks and feels them carefully, then goes inside the ticket booth, and brings you the change in Reals. I saw no limit on change. I made USD200 change one day and USD100 next. I also used Citibank four times, so I always had enough cash. I never kept more than R$100 in my pocket though. I also kept R$100 in my socks, but did not carry a wallet/purse. Most of it stayed in my safe in my hotel.
2. There is a sizable population of Japanese in Sao Paolo, as is of Jewish people. But I do not think they contribute to the inflation in garotas’ prices. It is the middle class Japanese tourists, who I point to. You can spot them blindly. They are always in suits, travel in groups, with cameras on their shoulder and hands. They have generally no idea of local prices and they think in Yen, like some of us always think in dollars/euros. We inadvertently compare the price of drinks, a session with hooker back home, taking a date to dinner/movie etc. with what we pay in Rio. Similarly, our friends think in terms of Toyko bar price, where you pay USD200 to have a girl sit next to you, talk to you, and pour drinks for you for a couple of hours. I know this because I lived in Tokyo for a while. I saw two of our friends in suit walking next to the water at the beach in Copacabana. Later, girls mobbed them in meia pataca. They got scared and left, when one aggressive girl squeezed the balls/dick of one poor fellow. These girls are smart and word gets out quickly about our rich friends. I bet some of these very smart girls are learning Japanese now.
3. Apts v. Hotel: This issue has been discussed quite extensively in the forum. For the undisrupted pleasure, you should get an apt. The problem with apt is the location and distance from Help. Ideally, I would prefer an apt. next to Help or meia pataca in front of the beach. This may be an expensive option though. The best deal would be to share an apt. with your buddies. In my research I found that as long as you reserve a hotel room as Mr. and Mrs. John Doe, and pay for double occupancy you should not have any problem bringing one garota each night, provided it is done discretely (translation—Hotel image is kept intact and you do not disturb other guests). I do not think even 4-star hotels would have a problem with it. For some reasons, I prefer to stay in a hotel. My hotel charged me 35% of the daily rate as garota surcharge. I happily paid. In Brazil and other developing countries, most hotels, unlike their US counterparts, charge by the occupants in a room, not by the room per se. In US, most hotels do not care how many people are actually in the room. I have stayed in a hotel at Grand Canyon with 15 guys one night (it was an emergency when our tour van broke down and we only could get one room) and the hotel did not care. Having said that, next time, I’d try an apt. close to Help.
4. Language: Read my lips--Portguese is important. You will have no luck without it with normal girls. However, it is not the end of the world. Most garotas will give you a slack for your dollars/euros. Trust me, your efforts in speaking/understanding the language will be rewarded many times. I am very quick in learning new languages and picking new words. I picked up touristy conversational Portguese in a few days. Your attitude, patience, symbolic expressions, and gratitude are more important than words. A basis phrase book is worth its weight. Use it. I have seen guys get by without speaking a word of Portguese. You may be too if you stay in Copa. I heard one lady asking meaning of obrigado with the tourist guide. When my British friend heard it, he commented that only an American can ask this question. He is right, our attitude that whole world revolves around us is just not true in Brazil. I personally had no problem with bargaining in Mercado, centro termas, and dealing with so many garotas. Some girls at meia pataca even suspected that I am a Brazilian dressed as a tourist making fun of them speaking in English with gringos. I could easily mix in because of my skin color, as I am from Indian sub-continent. My advice-- speak or learn as much as you can, but do not go out of the way or become obsessed with it. You are there for a few weeks. Enjoy the culture, lifestyle, food and girls. Travel outside tourist ghettos. It is a beautiful country and Brazilians are lively people. Make the most out of it. Do not stress out, take it as a work assignment or homework. You are here to relax. Let the life take its course.
5. Food: I just loved the food here. I’d provide some details as much less is written on it on the forum. Basically, you have three choices: a) upscale restaurants, b) middle class brazilian restaurants at corners c) fast food like McDonalds /Bobs/Dominos Pizza etc. In addition to it, juice bars (called Succos Bar) are at every 100-500 meters behind Ave. Atlantica and all over the place in centro and Copacabana/Ipanema. They also sell shrink-wrapped sandwiches. I tried an excellent Italian food place in Rio Sul. They have a food court just like any mall in US. Max bill is R$15 per person. You can not spend more than that at any middle class nice restaurant. Trust me, I tried hard at many locations. One great option for vegetarians and organic food lovers is the Kilo places. They call it Kilo Buffet Restaurants. Ask anyone walking on the street. They will tell you one close by. It is very popular with Brazilians, and one Saturday it was mobbed at lunch time. It is about R$1.49-1.89 per 100 grams of food in plate. You can pick what you want and pay at the end. Never paid more than R$15 including Pizza, salad, etc. Sushi and all kinds of meat is available here. I only went to one upscale Japanese place. It was about R$30 per person. I had at least 3-4 aqua de cocos and 3-4 Succos everyday from the following menu: Laranga(orange), Melancia (watermelon), kiwi, manga (mango), abacaxi, mamao(papaya), fruta de conge (custard apple, most delicious to me), pina (pineapple) etc. You can mix and match, even add ginseng, energy drink, granola, protein powder, calcium powder, and multivitamin to the shake, and you got a complete meal. It is absolutely delicious and you do not feel hungry for hours. Juice is sold by the glass, priced according to the fruit, and it is rarely over R$2.50 per glass. I lost 8 pounds in a week and I never felt so energetic in my life. I also walked at the beach about 5-6 miles a day. I did not go inside McDonald or any fast food place, as this is my last choice. For coffee lovers, this place is paradise. I really do not care much for coffee, but I loved coffee here.
I hope I have answered most of the questions. Feel free to PM me.
If you want to exchange money at Help, you'll have to wait until they have enough Reals. Usually after midnight. If you want to exchagne large sums, I suggest you talk to the management first.
I only used them when I ran short on Reals late in the evening or on the weekends. At the time, the Citibank ATM gave a better rate, with Help being slightly better or matching the Cambios.
Help will exchange USD, CAN, and EUROS. They'll have a small sign posted at the entrance with the evenings exchange rate.
I've been told that management saves the foreign currency and exchanges them for Reals when the rates are better.
Exec Talent
09-17-04, 16:25
I don't think it is the Japanese we have to worry about. Family planning, early sex education and condom usage among young girls would probably have a greater impact. Most of the girls in Help had children at a young age. The reason that they are there is because they are the primary means of support for their family.
Spent last night with a typical case in point -- got pregnant by her 40 year-old teacher when she was 15. Now at 23 she has 2 children by the guy and he provides no support. No different than anywhere else, all she is looking for is someone to love and love her. Incidently, she has a very fair approach, one price if you are not happy another if you are. We were to spend 2 hours together ended up spending 4+. Smart, attractive woman who taught herself English and has a lot to offer someone.
I am planning on going to Brazil in about 3 weeks for fun and photos. I am monger who travel alone but will enjoy the company of other mongers. I have never been to Brazil mainly because the Flight from NYC is 12 hours. I go to DR and have a ball. I have 3 friend who just came back from Brazil yesterday thier not really mongers but they had a great time. They told me the love club help and paid $150 to 200us to have a girl all night. They said they met guys who bargin and got lower prices but said the service was so so. Well I am 41 and not rich or poor but can't afford to pay those prices that why I read this and other boards. My friend mike one of the 3 who went said he spent $300us a day on hot girls, $60us a day on food and $209us for his hotel room per day for 10 days. He also brought some girls meals and gifts along with buying him some. Btw the plane ticket was $750us and did I forget the cabs he took. Bottom line is he spent 5 thousand dollars for a 10 day trip and no he not from japan he from and live in NYC. The only good thing is he only goes once every two years.
Praia Club 400, Avenida Do Pepe, 400. Barra De Tijuca. (2929 9017). (northern end of Barra beach)
My Amigo got the low down on this place from a couple of expats in Rio. He needed a partner in crime to investigate, so I volunteered, not expecting more than a small dodgy Terma and probably a wasted trip down to Barra De Tijuca. I thought at worst it will break up the Zona Sul Terma routine and if all fails we can end up having a meal in Barra De Tijuca. (pronounced: Baha De Chicua).
For those of you who do not know Barra, it is an area about 20k south of Copacabana, very upper class by Brasilian standards. It is clean, relatively crime free, and a nice change from dirty copa. It is like a middle class American beach side suburb. The road there follows the coast line thru Leblom, Favela’s Vadgal & Rocinha and is basically a nice drive within the safety of a car. Once into Barra there are Malls and lots of nice cars, which is a rarity in Zona Sul. It is also very white, you do not see many black Brasilians. Yes Brasil is a country of color, but the minority white Brasilians control the majority of the countries wealth.
Anyway, three of us grabbed a cab at 4.30pm from Ipanema to avoid the rush that comes with 5pm. Great cab driver who happened to speak perfect English, after us making fools of ourselves for 10 minutes thinking he could not understand what we were saying. We got a great run with virtually no traffic. Cost was R$27, which is the cheapest run I have had to Barra, usually it costs R$40. We arrived around 5.15pm to find the club does not open until 6pm. We grabbed a bite to eat, talked shit and generally had a bit of a laugh.
6.30 pm we entered the club. Although it is a Terma you do not change into a robe, just grab a seat. It’s a big terma, probably 12 cabines and 4 suites. The girls were about the same number you would find at Loumo (around 30 or 40), the quality fantastic, lots of doable girls. I got a tour of the place by one girl, which was great as I got to see all the suites and the impressive layout. The ratio of girls that spoke English was less than Zonal Sul termas but this does not bother us as we get by with rough porto. We were the first guys there but it quickly filled up with the same guy to girl ratio. This was not as dire as it seems, as most of the local Brasilian Men only stopped by to drink, hence there was no shortage of hot women. We found there were various waves of Men throughout the night but it never affected the amount of available girls as again the local Men seemed to be more interested in chatting than sexo. We were the only Touristas there. There was also 2 live bands throughout the night an 1 strip show.
Throughout the night the three of us did 2 girls each, all very happy with the girls looks, attitude and performance. Ended up grabbing a car out front of the club back to Copa for predetermined rate of $R40.
Costs: Entrada R$40. This is waived if you enter before 8pm.
40 Minute Cabine. R$150 all inclusive if paid in cash (yes this is great value for a high class terma). Do not use your credit card in this place as they discourage it by prohibitive pricing. A rate of $R220 was quoted if you use your credit card for the cabine.
60 Minute Suites. Varied from R$250 to R$300. The room was nicer but I am not there for the room.
Drinks. Most drinks were moderately priced with the exception of Red Bull and imported Vodka. Both were R$16 each. Guess what we were drinking, yep, Red Bull and Vodka at R$32 a shot. We didn’t realise this until the end of the night and ended up with drinks bill of around $150 each. This was due to our inexperience as other drinks like Capinrinha’s were R$8 and hence if we were smart we could have kept our bill to R$50 or so each. Again if you pay your drinks bill with a credit card they slug you, this time by 20%.
I would definitely go there again and if you get there before 8pm and drink local stuff it works out about the same as a zona sul terma even with cab fair. A great change of routine.
Random notes:
I did something last night I've never done before, which is to respond to a classified ad in O Globo. (I was kind of tired and didn't feel up to going to a termas.) To do this you have to be able to read and speak Portuguese. Well, it paid off. I got a gorgeous 22 year old morena named Julia (her ad began Julia Morena), tall, perfect sculptured body, luscious natural breasts. She came to my aparthotel within a half hour of my phone call. DFK, BBBJ (no CIM), CFS. The price, established during the phone call was R120 for 2 hours, plus R30 for taxi, total R150, equivalent to about US$52, not bad for 2 hours of pleasure which included getting off twice.
I learned something interesting from her ad. The ad looked as if she had placed it herself as a freelancer, but actually she works for an agency and has to split her take with them. These ads appear in the back pages of the "Classificado" section of O Globo. They appear in the Jornal do Brasil as well. Julia is available Monday through Friday, 10am-midnight. If anyone wants the phone number, please PM me.
I also had an experience earlier in the evening which I should pass on to brother mongers as a warning. As I was walking on Avenida Atlantice not far from Rua Santa Clara I was approached by two streetwalkers, one very young, one older, who of course solicited my business. I wasn't interested but talked to them for a couple of minutes just to practice my Portuguese. During the course of my conversation the older one puts her hand in my crotch and starts to rub. Since I wasn't interested I pulled away, but she did this two more times. Finally I said goodbye to them and went on my way. About 5 minutes later I discovered that the b***h had picked my pocket, took about R70 of folding money I had in my pocket. Stupid, stupid, stupid! I should have been on my guard. I carry all my serious money and my credit cards in an ankle belt and leave just enough in my pants pocket for ordinary expenses. So just be forewarned, guys, when you talk to hos in the street, keep one hand on your pocket change.
CaptainNemo and Rastaman,
I think your remarks about blacks were ill-conceived and inappropriate for this forum. Even if you feel this way, you should keep these comments to yourself. We don't want this forum to turn into a forum for racial confrontations. Rastaman, you were right to call CaptainNemo on his remarks, but who the hell are you to be calling people inferior? Inferior to whom...you? Judging from your spelling and grammar ("your liable," "Youre post," "guyz"), being inferior to you would be something pretty hard to achieve.
So let's cool the racial rhetoric, guys.
Lorenzo
I agree, lets keep race off the forum, we all deserve respect, and a hot peice of ass.
Matka,
Excellent post and and well thought out points. I sure wish others would/could post in a similar manner.
I look here for info not pissin matches. Thanks for keeping the standards up.
CaptainNemo,
I certaintly don't want to make this an issue, and I'm sure your comments were not meant to be offensive, but your recent post could be misinterupted by a few folks here.
I'm sure you know that there are black american that run the gamit from "urban" as you say, to conservative, to old heads like myself ( although I would say I'm "so fresh and so clean") who just like anyone else just want to enjoy how amazing Rio is for mongering. Although smaller L'uomo and Monte Carlo for the most part are the most convenient spots for folks staying in the Copacabana area as well. Not to mention, your guaranteed to see at least one or two broads with big bundas of life.
Didn't mean to get on a soapbox here, but hey, were all here to share info, tips and insight on our chosen hobby here.
Nuff said - , gotta finish posting on my last termas session from Monte Carlo, pics to post, and general thoughts from after spending the best week of mongering in my life in Rio!!!
Matka,
Great and thorough report. But by all means, and don't take this the wrong way, please don't claim to know the entire city of Rio (or Brazil/Brazilians for that matter) after one single trip. There is much more to it than what you claim to voice your authority on, and many historical and cultural knowledge that supercedes your basic assumptions. You have a great gift of observation and analysis, but granted, they are your opinions (based on several days on vacation). Your voice exudes factual authority on the country and the hobby as a whole, and as much as I appreciated your report, I for one found your report a little bothersome.
There are several things I can reiterate on about your report, but the one that stuck out to me the most was your wrongful assumptions of the Japanese tourists set out to ruin Rio de Janeiro. The middle class Japanese tourists with suits, travel in groups, with cameras on their shoulder and hands, well, aren't they practically everywhere in the world? In other words, are you saying that they are the ones ruining it for every possible tourist destination in the world?
As it has been mentioned earlier, Brazil has the second largest population of Japanese outside Japan going back a century. What is considered "Asian" in America (or Europe), is 'Japones' in Brazil. Of all places, any Asian person that travels through most parts of Brazil (from Belo Horizonte and down) is automatically recognized as a native Brazilian, regardless of their attire. In Rio, unless you're an individual of "darker skin" dressed in "Brazilian clothes" (yes the clothes are different), every tourist sticks out like a sore thumb, regardless of if you're in a group wearing suits or not. If you're white, you're a tourist, even moreso than a couple of 'Japones' sitting on the beach.
A few groups in suits set out to take pictures and hand several hundred dollar bills to working girls will not make a bit of difference in Rio. You only have about a million other clueless gringos doing the exact same thing each and every month in Copacabana, not to mention the boisterous Germans and Italians thrown in for good measure. The Japanese tourists will never exceed the saturation of gringo tourist in Rio. Even if they did, well, it would be the Asians that would suffer the consequences of facing higher prices, not the gringos. Because the girls should know that they can never fool a 'gringo' (like they do the 'Japones').
As well traveled as you seem to be, I was surprised to read some of your assumptions. This is the first time you've been there, and you're already criticizing certain groups of 'friends' ruining the place that has had those same 'friends' established in their history going back a hundred years.
Dark Knight
09-18-04, 13:45
Lorenzo,
Actually, I thought that classified ads in the local papers were primarily for quase mulher. Are you sure you didn't get one of those? Actually, you essentially paid what you would have paid an escort agency, right? The only difference (and a key one) being that you didn't know what would show up at your door. Good to hear that it worked out for you.
By the way,
"keep one hand on you pocket change", "the ad loked", "which I shoul pass on", "inappropraite", etc....
What do they say about glass houses?
Dark Knight
09-18-04, 14:00
Matka,
You're dead-on. I'm familiar with the "bar girl" concept in Japan. I think that you can add the tradition of Geisha to that. So, yes, Japanese are accustomed to paying relatively large sums to girls strictly for companionship, and not necessarily sex.
A parallel can be drawn to the guys who frequent hookers and/or massage parlors here in the U.S. and pay $200-300+ for "service". Typically one hour. Then, they get to Brazil and think they are getting a good deal when a garota tells them 300 or 400 reais (US$ 100-140).
The price for a very good looking girl for short time is R$75-125. The price for all nite is R$150-200. Please don't pay more than that....and encourage your friends not to pay more than that.
Less attractive girls are, of course, less...(and should cause you to re-examine why you are flying 5000 miles to pay to sleep with unattractive women).
I believe there was a post earlier about getting a better rate at Help as compared to the ATM machines in Rio. While it is true that MOST times you can get a better rate at Help than the ATm's or the Cambios the problem is that you need to bring the cash with you.
The whole purpose of the ATM machines is that you leave your cash in the bank and only pull it out on a need for use basis. This is a safety precaution as I feel you leave yourself open for a problem if you have that kind of cash with you.
Even if you leave it in your hotel safe, while I have never heard of a hotel safe being robbed I am sure it is possible. On the other hand if you have an apartment without a good safe then hiding $1,000 plus in cash can get tricky.
I like to bring cash too because I am always afraid that at any given time my ATM card might not work and then I will be stuck in Rio without any money and then what. But lately I have been using my card and bringing cash as a backup.
City: RIO
Place: Help
Visited Help all the girls there are quoting R$300 (but I never paid more than R$150). I have offered always 150 and was firm on my Offer.
If they are not agree first day next day they are. I never went alone from Help.
Picked Omanda, very nice, young 19 year old, nice figure.
She had some attitude problem, as soon she is undressed, She asked for the money.
I told her that I never do that, so if you want to stay ok, other wise leave.
And She stayed till 11 AM next day. 9 for looks and figure, 8 for service
Sorry No Pictures
City: RIO
Place: Help
Price: 150 for the Night
Picked Waleska, She is slim, 24 year old; She promised to stay till 10 AM.
But Guess what, she wanted to leave after one hour, When I mentioned her promise, She said,
That she never promised, I was pissed and to close the cheapter I paid and asked her to leave.
So stay away form her (Picture below), She doesn't keep her words and leaves early.
City: RIO
Place: Help
Price: 150 for the Night
Picked Waleska, She is slim, 24 year old; She promised to stay till 10 AM.
But Guess what, she wanted to leave after one hour, When I mentioned her promise, She said,
That she never promised, I was pissed and to close the chepter I paid and asked her to leave.
So stay away form her (Picture below), She doesn't keep her words and leaves early.
City: RIO
Place: Help
Price: 150 for the Night
Picked Prinsicila, Tall, 21 year old nice girl, as usual asked for 300 but agreed on 150.
Nice will give her 8 for service, but 7 for the looks. Good service stayed till 2 PM next day.
Her pictures are in the pictures Section.
City: RIO
Place: Help
Price: 150 for the Night
Picked Karine, Nice young girl around 19, Good Service, Stayed till 11 AM.
She also deserves for 8 for looks and also 8 for service.
Picture on the Picture section.
City: Rio
Place: Help
Price: 150 for the Night
Picked Renate, Had talk with her many time before, But she Started with 300, and than was firm on 200. But I always said to her 150/- for the whole night. Finally on my 5th visit to Help she agreed.
Was a slim tall 21 year old girl very Nice in bed. Stayed till next morning 10 AM
Sorry no Pictures.
Dark Knight
09-18-04, 19:09
Eric,
Thanks for holding the line at 150 for the night.
Regarding waleska: Sorry to hear about the crappy experience. But, I need a bit more detail, please. Had you already done the dirty deed once? Did you pay her the FULL amount, or did you pro-rate?
"Honey, if you had told me R$150 for an hour, I would have said no."
Guys, HELP is largely terrible. It's a MUCH better time at the Ipanema/Leblon clubs.
Young & Restless
09-18-04, 19:15
I had a friend ask me this and I told him no, but let me ask here just to be sure... Are there any other clubs in Rio that have the same set-up as Help (tons of girls on the prowl)?
I figured that if there were others, they would have been well documented by now.
Thanks,
Y & R
CaptainNemo
09-18-04, 19:31
Well, it is tough to report things as I see/hear them without the citation of American PC police. Is anyone tired to hear Maroon 5’s music in every termas? Anyone wants to jump on that statement?
Centaurus:
I have never been to Centaurus before. Never feel the need to pay that extra when L’uomo’s talent was high. I was tired of going to 4X4 all the time. I decided to check out Centaurus for the 1st.
Summary: I hate the place and love these girls.
This place charges R$290 when you just come in. If you pay with a credit card, add 10% to your bill. I always carry a lot of cash with me, so I pay with the cash. I saw that most of other guys pay with a credit card. I just don’t see the need to pay 10% extra. In the past, I was told that local pay less. I talked to a few local guys in the Centaurus. This is not the case. They pay the same price.
There is a small room with couch. They are girls waiting in there. These girls are the ones to help you change cloths. I have a feeling that these are the least “productive” in the Centaurus. If the girl were hot and busy to fuck, she would not wait to help customer to change cloths here. I did not confirm this arrangement with any girls. It is my guess after I see how this place is running.
I arrived early, around 4:15Pm. Most of girls at this time are not that hot. During my few visits, this was always the case. Again, I feel that these least “productive” girls have to come early to work when more “productive” girls can come at later time. My observation is that most of good-looking girl arrive between 5:45pm and 6:30pm. If girls did not have any customer yesterday, she may have to come early. This is my guess again.
Showers and sauna are not bad. In my opinion, they are in the same level as L’uomo or Monte Carlo. After shower or sauna, you will go to the 2nd floor to get drink and relax.
There is a bar/lounge area and a relax room on the 2nd floor. It seems that the ventilation system is very bad in this bar/lounge area. I feel that there is way too much cigarette smoke in this room. It is as bad as a Paris restaurant. Even though there are many girls who smoke in other termas, I have never feel such bad air.
Well, I did not come here for the clear air, so I sucked up.
Girls are way better than other places. As I see, 4 girls are in the must-to-do league. At least 10 girls are in the very doable league. I was told that there were nearly 80 girls. With such high talent level, I just ignore the rest of girls.
(I almost take this part out because someone may get offended. After careful consideration, I decided to keep it. I will not respond if someone wants to jump on it)
There are very few black girls here. A few black girls (I can see 3 of them) are very beautiful, not even in the same league as other places’. I asked one girl why there are very few black girls working in this place. She told me that the owner/manager did not like to hire black girls.
Around 7pm, the owner of the place comes in. The owner is a middle age woman. She wares a glass and has a small bag holding paper and pen hanging around her neck. She stays in the bar/lounge area most of time. I was told that she also owns strip clubs in Miami. When she is not traveling around world to manage her other clubs, she will come to Centaurus. She is a work around manager. She walks around and talks to girls about their life all night. Seems to be a nice person. In reality, she is the real *****.
When the business is slow (no one is fucking) and girls sit around talking, this owner will tell girls to get off and start working. She uses a Brazilian hand gesture (not middle finger) for sex to these girls. Basically, she tells girls that let’s have sex. All night, she will use pen and paper recording something. I can only image that she keeps scores how many fucks girls did. When I see an owner like this, I really hate to spend my money here.
The owner’s attitude affects how girls work. This is a high-pressure place. From your first drink, girls will constantly ask you to have sex, in a very direct way. If you already talk to one girl, other girls will ask you if you want 2 girls. If you reject a blonde, a dark hair will approach. Forget about the small talks, girls want to fuck you as quick as possible. This place is commercial sex to the extreme.
In addition, girls will ask for drinks. Even you told them that you don’t want to have sex with the, they will ask you to buy them a drink. Unbelievable. You feel that you have been constantly asked to buy something.
The bartender is the worst. This guy will ask for a tip. When I left this place for the 1st time, front desk guy will ask me if I give the bartender R$10 for tip. I say no. No one asked me for a tip. The 2nd time I was there, the bartender showed me a piece of paper. It indicated to me that I should give him a tip. I was very annoyed but I gave him R$10 as a tip anyway. It was charged when I left the place. WTF. I did not fuck him.
The $290 you paid includes one 40min action. If you want another 40min, it is additional R$200. Because of high price, you have to take the time to select a good one.
When you decide to take a girl, the girl will go the relax room to make a call to the front desk. I guess that it is to check your credit. When I take the 1st girl, no problem. When I take a 2nd girl, I was told that I have to go to the front desk to pay the $200 up front. WTF. Did I mention that this place is commercial sex to the extreme? The guy works at the front desk during my first 2 visits is very friendly to me. He remembers me and says that I can pay when I leave. So, I did not paid the $200 up front. But there was a day he did not work. The woman worked at front desk insisted that I have to pay. So, I left without taking the girl (one of my must-to-do). Someone has to stand up to how they run this place.
I don’t know if the situation will be different if I pay with a credit card. But, I hate this whole procedure.
Well, now you are finally ready for the action. Not so fast. There is a stupid waiting period. The girl asks you to wait at the 3rd floor. She goes up to the 4th floor to get a room key. This is a short wait. 30 second to one minute. Then she will get you to a room. She will go somewhere to change. You will wait in the room by yourself. This waiting is long. It could be 5 minutes to 10 minutes. This waiting is absolutely joy kill.
I only take the simple room. The room is big by termas standard. There is no porn TV (as in the 4X4) or shower. It has just a bed. The mattress of bed is covered by plastic rubber. A very thin sheet is on this plastic rubber. The bed sheet never holds up because of the plastic rubber under it. Depend on how much movement you make, pretty soon you find yourself is on this plastic rubber mattress.
2 girls are willing to have unprotected sex here. I have never encounter such attitude in other places. I was told that they get 3 times a week pussy inspection and once a month HIV blood test. We did not do it when we both think about the risk.
Girls are hot here. Most of customers seem to be local. I met a few lawyers here. I guess that this is a local lawyer hang out. There are some gringos/tourists here. But, they are not in a large numbers as in L’uomo.
No matter how I hate the place is running, I will probably go back for these hot girls. Centaurus’s girls and L’uomo’s environment will be my prefect termas.
Dark Knight,
Yes At-least the dead was done once, But I had the deal for the whole night for 150. Which She did promised. But never fullfilled.
I would Never Pay more that 150 for the night. That what it should a max according to the local Economy.
You mentioned about Ipenama/Leblon. please eleborate abit about loactions and prices, as i am not aware of hunting grounds in Ipenama / Leblon
Dos Condoms
09-18-04, 20:07
Hello Guys,
I have a quick question for you here. I was on here several months ago and stumbled across a guide written by a fellow monger titled 2003 Rio Sex Guide or something similar to that name. I can't seem to find it anywhere on the net. Do any of you here remember reading something like that?
Thanks
P.S I will be traveling to Rio for 10 days in November 5-15
Dark Knight,
No, Julia was really a woman (and how). Some of the 'classificados' are for men or trannies, but you can always tell from the text of the ad; I'm sure they actually want you to know they're men so they won't get bashed if someone makes a mistake. The ads for men will usually use a male name, and they will always use the masculine gender ending in describing themselves, e.g., 'bonito' instead of 'bonita.' But ads for men don't constitute more than 10% of the 'classificados.' The vast majority are for women, and the display ads are for escort services and/or termas. You're right, it is taking a chance to order someone sight unseen, but in this case it paid off.
Thanks for catching my spelling errors. I have since corrected them.
Matka,
As I said once before, you have learned a lot in one visit and your posts provide valuable information. Now learn the next lesson: swear off of Help! IMHO, Help! is strictly for newbies. You find the lowest quality girls there, and at least half of them are outright skanks. On top of which, you have to listen to wretched music. Also, unless you are staying in a hotel or similar place where visitors are screened, I would think twice about letting a working girl, especially the favela types from Help!, know where you live. Many are friendly with criminal elements, to put it mildly, and she may make a return visit bringing a well-muscled surprise with her. This has happened! I don't even use outcall services in the states, for this very reason. So be careful.
Lorenzo
Good Post Captain Nemo:
Pet hate at Centaraus=> The barman with a napkin and on the bottom of it "TIP". I just say, "Nao Intend" a couple of times. A hate it when they insist on a tip, tips are for good service and not shitty Centaurus attitude.
Another point: I have heard a lot of people say Centaurus is hard to find anal at. I have found that this is not the case, the ratio of girls prepared to "take one for the team" is just as prevalent at Centaurus as other Termas. IE, probably 75% of girls will do it if asked correctly.
Robert Palli
09-18-04, 21:36
Hey Eric EMp,
That girl Karine and the other one Princilla was hot! Can you give details of service included in the 150 reals? Was in completa, bbj, etc?(Anal?)
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Lorenzo,
Given the fact that you advise not to goto the Help, where do you get your girls from? I quite like the concept of the Help. Its like going to a club where you know that at the end of the evening you can leave with a girl. They play all kinds of music so that if you stay long enough everybody can enjoy themselves. I don't really like escort services and although I have never been to the terma's, they are not really my thing since I want to take them back to my hotel. So what are the alternatives of enjoying the girls in Rio? I have been to Barbarella's and although abit more expensive better quality girls. I can remember though that you weren't very positive about it. Enlighten me, please. where should I go the next time I'm in Rio?
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Hey CaptainNemo -
In comparing Centaurus to the other spots (MC, L'uomo, 4x4, etc..) would you say the girls are substainly better looking, and also provide above average service/ enthusiasm, etc.. ?
I was contemplating going on my last day, but didn't seem to think it was going to be worth paying that much more for, given some of the talent I saw at MC, solarium,etc..
Dark Knight
09-19-04, 00:02
Eric Emp,
I posted some information about other clubs on April 23 after a visit. Please refer to my post of 4/23 in this section. Thanks.
CaptainNemo
09-19-04, 01:05
MSJ44
Centaurus not only has better-looking women, but way, way better looking women. I can not say about the service. As matter of fact, I had one of worst service from one of best looking girl in there.
Centaurus has more girls than men most of time. Competitions among girls are tough. Some of good-looking girls are busy all the time. Some of less desirable can not get anything action at all. This girl is one of best looking girls in Centaurus. She knows it. Before I took her, I got a feeling she is not going to be good. But, I did not care. She is hot and I want do her. I think that we finished in 20 minutes. She started to dress. If she does not want to spend the whole 40 minutes, I don’t want to force her. Well, she is hot and does anal. She can get away with this shit. I will not repeat her.
If someone told me that she is bad before I had her, I still want to do her. She is that hot. She is my first choice in my 4 of must-to-do list.
My second choice in my 4 of must-to-do list is very good. So good, I did her twice.
I also had middle tier girls. They will be the top girls if they work in other places. They work hard for my money because there are fewer men interested in them.
Girls only get R$130 per 40 minutes action. R$30 more than other places but with less volume per night. I saw many girls with no customer at all. I don’t understand why they don’t go to L’uomo to make more gringo money.
If other places are not up to your standard, you should check out this place. Life is short. You will only spend probably R$300 more than other places. You are on vacation. R$300 is not money.
Actually, I met a girl who used to work at MC. It was her 1st night at MC. When I left 11PM, she has no customer at all. I saw her the next night. When I left, she had no one again. She is not aggressive as other girls. She is only in the middle tier at Centaurus.
I am very bad at names (so many girls), so I can not give you any name of these girls.
Young & Restless
09-19-04, 01:06
MSJ44,
CaptainNemo was correct about alot of things that he wrote about Centaurus. However, those girls that are in that room to your right when you first walk in are not duds like he made them out to be. Two of the hottest girls that I hooked up w/ at Centaurus were both in that waiting area. They're probably there to take a break from the ridiculous amount of smoke in the music area...
He more or less hit the nail on the head with everything else in his post. IMO, the girls there are substantially better looking then the girls at the other termas that I've been to, but it's a high-pressure sales environment. Forget about sitting down and relaxing, but you may not want to anyway when you see all of these hot chicas in this place.
I'm surprised that you didn't go there! BTW, very nice job on your reports and photos. My two favs are Diana from 9/14 and Carla on 9/18! Very nice indeed!!
Y & R
JustGotBack
09-19-04, 02:36
Nemo, thanks for your latest report about Centaurus. More importantly, thanks for not self censoring it.
Exec Talent
09-19-04, 02:44
For you guys who are bad at names, there is a simple solution. Ask the girl to give you her number. I have never been refused, anywhere. In fact, I ask even when I see them on the street and add a little description so I won't forget who they are. With so many, it is tough at times to keep them straight.
One of the nice things about the trip home is there is no smoking on the plane. The four things that Rio could do without is American gang-bangers, smoking, tatoos and the same music every night at Help. Does anyone know that if we brought in some better music, would they play it?
JustGotBack
09-19-04, 04:14
Is there a concise list of the clubs and addresses somewhere like Jackson's list for BA?
I tried searching but the search function only seems to work for recent posts. No results show up from say the Rio 2003 thread.
Justgotback,
There is no concise address list, but there is definitely a need for it here. Maybe someone that has Jackson's ear can let him know of the need.
Here is my condensed list.
Termas:*** High End ***
L’oumos: Rua Siqueira Campos, 143. http://www.luomo.com.br/
Solarium, Rua JJ Seabra, 21, Jardim Botanica. http://www.solarium.com.br/
Monte Carlo: Rua Hilario De Gouveia, 19. Close to Av Atlantica.
Centaraus: Rua Caning 44, Cnr Rua Raihha Elizabeth, Ipanema .
Quatro X Quatro, (4x4) Rua Buenos Aires 44, centro
Termas 65 Rua do Rosario, 65, Centro http://www.termas65.com.br/index.asp
Termas Aeroporto 216-C Beira Mar Av.
Rio Antigo Joaquim Silva, 2, in the Gloria
http://www.termasrioantigo.com.br/
Termas 502, Rua de Alfandega, 502, Centro
Termas 61, Rua do Acre, 61, Centro.
***Boites:***
Barbarela's , Rua Ministro Viveiros de Castro, 24. Copacabana
Café Sensoo ,Av. Princesa Isabel, 7. Copacabana
Doma, Av. Prado Júnior, 63. Copacabana
Don Juan. Rua Duvivier, 37. Copacabana
Erótica. Av Prado Junior, 63. Copacabana
Frank's Bar. Av. Princesa Isabel, 185B. Copacabana
Holiday. Av. Atlântica, 1424. Copacabana
La Cicciolina. Av. Princesa Isabel, 185D/E. Copacabana
New Pussycat. Av. Copacabana, 129.Copacabana
Night Club Nikos Av. Prado Júnior, 48. Copacabana
Scandinávia. Praça Mauá, 19A Centro
Flórida. Praça Mauá, 9. Centro
Sundry:
Help. Av. Atlantica, 3432 .Copacabana
I've been told that Centaurus rotates the garotas in the waiting room. They all have to sit there eventually.
I too had a problem with them latching on to me in the locker room. I usually ducked into the shower area. They didn't seem to mind, as they were then free to roam the bar/lounge area. I too, found the Centaurus garotas to be too business-like. Captain Nemo is right, these garotas really know how to hook you. But for me, they didn't live up to the promises made in the bar. All that and the high prices does not put Centaurus on my must visit list.
FYI: Termas Aeroporto also has garotas in the locker room to assist you out of your clothes.
I like the fact that Luomo, MC, 4X4, Solarium, etc. have hags working in the locker room. That way I don't walk out to the boite from the locker room with a woody.
CaptainNemo/ Y & R -
Thanks for the insight on Centaraus. Which I had gone. Will be a definite on my next trip down.
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