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Rio Bob
11-14-04, 01:09
I was in Rio last week with a buddy of mine, we were in Help and found 2 sweet young things to go and have a party at my friends apartment in Ipanema. We all 4 got in a taxi and proceeded toward Ipanema.

About 3 minutes into the ride we were pulled over by the police, I was surprised, they came over to the car and asked the driver if we were foreingners, we said yes and they told us to get out of the taxi, we did all 4 of us. There must have been 4 or 6 of them heavily armed with flap jackets. The one cop I spoke to asked me if I have or have been doing any drugs, I said no but he inspected me closely, went in my pockets, I emptied my pockets, he inspected my wallet everything, I had all my money and credit cards laid out on the trunk of the taxi.

At this point I was worried about a plant or a robbery, He could have had my $150 but a plant would have cost more I can imagine. I have heard these stories before of cops planting something on a gringo and then trying to extort money out of them but these guys were straight with us, they took no money and ended up being pretty friendly with a handshake and everything.

But I mention it here only because the girls told me that this is normal and if it is then guys watch out don't get caught with your pants down if you know what I mean. After all this we ended up at my friends apartment and had a great party, one for the books, but that's another story.

Kid Cisco
11-14-04, 22:26
The wild part is you guys need to be very careful CHECK your pocket before you leave club Help (GIRLS WILL PLACE DRUGS IN YOUR POCKETS BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE CLUB!!). and then either she or her other girl friend you DON'T see we phone the dirty cop to be on the look out for you guys.

Then the girl will tell you its a good ideal to pay the cop (later the cop and girl will split the $$).

Make it a habit to (rabbit ears your pockets before leaving club help or any place in Brazil) I make it a point to check my pockets before leaving in place in Brazil so far so good.

I been going to Rio and Brazil for years I have never had any problems ( I know before anyone tell me that it never happen to them it NEVER happen to me either) but its always a 1st time.

Smirk53
11-15-04, 06:13
The same thing happened to me with my buddy when we were in Rio. The same result happened, thank god that was it.

B J Lover
11-15-04, 21:01
Was recently perusing the latin/ brazilian porn section of my local video store and came accross a flick called Spanish Fly Pussy #14 which had one of my all time favorite gorata from my recent trip, kelly, in it. I guess it shouldn't surprise me, especially since we made a low budget one, but it was interesting to see. She is just a beast in her scene, and I guess goes to just how wild she was during our sessions.

Looks like Monte Carlo is the terma for aspiring brazilian porn starlets ( Lebara, Michelle, Aliyah, Kelly, etc..).

Attached flick is poor quality from camera phone, but will post a few censored Jpegs from our little video.

MSJ44, I happened across two brazilian porns this weekend and OMG!!!, Kelly is a fukin beast for real. You found her in Monte Carlo? I was planning Luomos and 4x4, maybe Centarus, but had not planned on touching MC, until now. Kudos!!

Scotch
11-15-04, 21:26
I was at Monte Carlo in Late OCT several times and Kelly was not there. I didn't see her at any of the thermas or Help. Lebara goes to help and hangs out in the front some times. MC has other hot chics who will also rock your world. I think I had Aliyah I am not to good with names when I am half drunk but if she's who I think she is she it the sweetest girl I met in my 2 weeks trip. BTW if you really want kelly go to MC ask for the Manager he speaks enligh and has been to NYC he will have a number for a small tip I'm sure. Have a great trip. BTW pm me for Lebara number she can also get in touch with kelly.

Zidaho
11-16-04, 00:23
I'll be in Rio December 8, through 31st. Please contact if anyone would like to do some mongering. This will be my third trip in the past year.

Zidaho

MCruddy
11-16-04, 00:27
I am a first timer to Rio. I've been to Cuba, Costa, Mexico, Romania, DR, and Hungary, but never Rio. Could some experienced veteran tell me where is better to stay at during Carnival, Ipanema or Copa? I hear conflicting reports and just looking for the most partying, action, etc? Thanks.

ViperAnywhere you stay will be great. I stayed in Copa at the Premier Copacabana Hotel on 205 Rua Tonelero and it was fine. Ipanema is more artsy and has the street carnival thing going for it, but either way you'll be fine. Do not stay downtown or anywhere other than Copa or Ipanema. I had a friend do that. He got a better rate, but he regretted it and ended up moving closer to Copa. Also, make your reservations early. The good hotels go quickly.

MCruddy

MSJ44
11-16-04, 01:16
MSJ44, I happened across two brazilian porns this weekend and OMG!!!, Kelly is a fukin beast for real. You found her in Monte Carlo? I was planning Luomos and 4x4, maybe Centarus, but had not planned on touching MC, until now. Kudos!!

Yeah BJ she was my best Garota during my trip. I had no idea about her porn performances until I got back home. But in hinside it makes sense. She was amazing. I've since seen her on the cover of 5 brazilian porn flicks.

You should find her at MC, and she does go to Help on the weekends occasionally. But she may be even at 4x4 now. I got her digits, and I can PM it to ya. Gonna call anyway to catch up and make sure I don't loose contact with that one.

Truly one you want to add to your Rio to do list!

PRBuck
11-16-04, 01:57
I am planning to go to Rio in early March. I'm wondering whether it's better to buy some reals right away with the dollar going down or is it better to sit and wait and hope the rate improves.

Thanks

Bubba Boy
11-16-04, 05:49
The Bubba Terma report: Updated Nov, 2004.

Termas: There are 3 major termas in Copa: loumo, Monte Carlo and Centaurus (yes I know its located in Ipanema but its on the border). Loumo and Monte will cost you approx R$50 to get in, R$170 for 40 minutes in a room with a girl. Drinks are very reasonable by western standards with most being less than R$10, a beer will set you back around R$4, a red bull R$10, the local cocktail- Caipirinha R$6. Girls drinks cost the same and there is no pressure to buy them drinks but you will want to anyway. There will be up to 40 girls at Monte and maybe a few more at Loumo at anytime. Centaurus costs more, at least 50% more for everything, they maybe have a few more girls to choose from but nothing else really to justify the extra$. About A R$15 cab ride south over to the beautiful Jardin Botanica area will see you at Solarium, which is virtually identical in price and atmosphere to the other termas. It is slightly smaller though, but worth the trip if just to see the Lagoa and Statue of Christ in the distance, Spectacular!

There is also a heap of termas in the centro (city about 8kms north) area. Quatro por Quatro (4 x 4), is the biggest terma in Rio and has up to 100 girls at anyone time. Centro termas are about 25% cheaper than Loumo and Monte carlo, with the exception of Terma 65, which is now 10% more expensive than Loumo etc.

A terma works like this: You get greeted by a receptionist at the entrance, they will speak English at the places mentioned above. She will give you a key to a locker. You go in to the locker room and put everything in there and change into a robe + slippers provided. You can have a shower and sauna etc at anytime. They also have various razors, toothbrushes etc that you can use to make you look and smell your best.

When you want to interact with the girls you make you way up to the Boite (Boi chi). They will be hanging around the bar looking to interact with you. They do not get paid to just hang around, they only earn $ when they take you to the room (cabine). There will be music playing and it is just like a normal bar although you are wearing a robe. If you wish to order a drink, and you will, the locker key is like you credit card, you will be asked to show it and your bar tab will be credited towards it. No money changes hands when you are inside the Terma ,you settle the bill at the end (unless you go to Centaurus). Do not loose your locker key! The portion of the bill that is for the girls has to be paid in cash!. In Centaurus, they will ask you to pay for the girls fees upfront, no other terma does this and this, with a number of other annoying tactics, is why Centaurus is generally considered to be the least friendly Terma in Rio. A lot of mongers refuse to go there because the attitude of management sux badly, the girls tend to be great looking though.!

Once you spot a cutey, just basically look in her direction and she will be on you, if this does not work use a hand signal, don’t worry once she knows you are interested she will be more than keen to sit next to you. You can play around with her for a while, there are generally 2 or 3 times as many girls as there are guys, although in peak times this may be reduced to 1:1, so generally you have time on your side. You will be treated like "a King". She will laugh at your jokes, stroke your ego and maybe you inner thigh, and probably grab your dick and put her tongue down your throat within the Boite. They are not shy inside the terma. After 30 minutes or so of fooling around you will probably be ready to "rumble". During this time you should have asked her if she is prepared to do whatever kinky deviate act you desire. I always ask if she is going to provide BBBJ, virtually every terma girl will, if she says she doesn't, you might want to ditch her and grab another because it is not a good sign that she wants to please you. Also a good time to ask if she does anal. Rio is probably one of the best areas in the world to find greek. Maybe 50% of terma girls will provide it at no extra cost, straight up, 75% will do it once you get to know them, and overcome them with your charm ;-). She will often agree to do anal as a deal clincher, to get you into the room. If you are smart you can leverage this. A lot of girls will also do CIM. Once you have decided she is one you want to get to know better, decide on how long you want to spend in the cabine (room) and give her your locker key and she will take it with her to get prepared. 40 Minutes is the standard and I won’t go longer unless it is a girl I know, not much point getting stuck with a dud for a longer time, although duds are not overcommon. She will come back in about 5 minutes wearing lingerie or some other bedroom attire and whisk you away to one of the rooms, where you will do your best impression of a porn star and she will generally fuck like only a Rio girl can, and believe me THEY CAN! In really busy times, you may have to wait for a cabine to become available, this will give you another few minutes to fool around with the girl in the Boite before sexo. I never mind the wait, after all I am on holiday and it is not as if I have to rush to a business meeting, waiting in the Boite is actually half the fun, some would say it is more than half.

After you interlude you can go back to the boite and grab another one or just hang out (thankyou lord for Vitamin V), it is not unusual to have the girl you have just fucked come back and chat to you, she wants the repeat business. It is not unusual to spend 3 or 4 hours at a terma just drinking and chatting with girls or fellow deviates. In any night the average girl will only see 2 or 3 clients over an 8 hour period, unless it is Carnaval time, hence there is a lot of down time built into the equation for fooling around. Most fellow mongers are quite friendly within a Terma, I have had many a good conversation over a few beers, just remember if you speak to a fellow monger try to keep who you nailed at other Termas quiet in front of the other girls, they are severe gossipers. If a girl asks you where your fellow monger has been over the last few days, the correct answer is I DO NOT KNOW.

You cannot officially take a girl out of a terma, but you can do deals with her to see you after the terma closes or before it opens. I have had many a girl hangout with me for gratis after or before work, but then I had seen these girls a few times in the Terma and intended to see them again within the Terma. They also like going out with Gringos because we can actually afford to take them to places the local guys cannot afford, and I don’t mean ultra expensive places, just normal restaurants and entertainment (a young local guy will only earn US$1000 per year if he even has a job, which is difficult to live on and leaves nothing for entertaining dates). The girl will only agree to see you after work if she feels comfortable with you, this will be based on your past behaviour within the Terma and the amigos you associate with. If you can get her to agree to take the day off from work she will be fined at least R$100 (up to R$300 at some Termas) from the terma so you will have to build this into the equation if you are negotiating a price, which could be up to R$300+ her fine. To work in a Terma, a girl has to agree to work 5 or 6 shifts in the week so you may get her to play with you on a night off, surprisingly I have found they are almost always available to full around on their day off. They will also see you before or after work. Generally speaking Terma girls are a lot more stable than girls you will meet at Help etc, this will mean they are much less likely to take shit out of your room or generally cause problems. Never drop your guard though. I always lock my passport etc in the safe, and lock what won’t fit in there in a suit case (she won’t be able to carry the whole case out of the joint without someone noticing). Yes it is true that she could cut the lock but generally most thefts I have heard of have been ones of opportunity, cameras and phones left on tables are most likely to disappear.

In general I love the Termas, they are my favourite part of Rio. The girls tend to be better sexual performers in a Terma than any other venue.


Zona Sul Termas.

Zona sul is “the south zone”, an area anywhere south of Central and is where you will stay. It includes Copacabana and Ipanema.

***L’oumos***: Rua Siqueira Campos, 143. Copacabana. http://www.luomo.com.br/ . Open 7days from 4pm until 1am-ish. (up to 60 girls). Gets busy from the get go. Entrance R$50 (reduced to R$35 if you take a girl), girl + room R$170.

I always make this my first stop on any trip to Rio. If my plane arrives after 4pm, I just throw my bags down in my Hotel Room and start the walk to Rua S Campos, with anticipation, I travel the escalator up to the second floor, round the corner, and I am usually warmly greeted by the doorman, who I think owns the place. I just can’t wait to greet old friends, and see who are going to be my new friends. Had my first girl here in Rio, who I still look forward to seeing in Loumo.

***Solarium***, Rua JJ Seabra, 21, Jardim Botanica. http://www.solarium.com.br/ . Open 7days, from 3pm M-F. Weekend times vary. (up to 40 girls). Entrance R$50, Girl+room R$170.

Solarium is smaller in size than most termas. The mongers tend to be mostly local Brazilians, who actually prefer a generous bunda (ass), as opposed to *this white boy* who likes them nice and slim, hence I tend to struggle to find someone who appeals to me here. I have had some great times here though.

***Monte Carlo***: Rua Hilario De Gouveia, 19. Copacabana. Open 7days from 3pm, including weekends. Doesn’t really get going until 4.30pm. (up to 50 girls). Entrance R$50, Girl+room R$170.

Another favourite of mine. The staff here tends to turnover fast, hence if you don’t like the selection one day, give it a few days and you might see some new faces in the line. Great location, nice and close to ground zero.

***Centaraus***: Rua Caning 44, Cnr Rua Raihha Elizabeth, Ipanema . On some maps Rua Caning does not appear as it is relatively small, no problem look for Rua Railhha Elizabeth and you can’t miss it. On the border of Copa and Ipanema. (upto 70 girls). Entrance + Girl+ room= R$290.

This place really knows how to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a lot of people. The staff will treat you like crap (if you are lucky!) and the girls are pressured so much by the staff that they are constantly on you all the time to take them to a cabine. The pressure starts upon entrance, where you have to pay R$290 upfront (50% more than your average terma). This includes entry & 40minutes in a cabine. If you leave without a taking a girl to a cabine don’t think you will get your money back. No other terma asks for money upfront nor will charge you more than entrance fee and drinks bill when you leave without sexo. Upon paying your entry fee, a girl will immediately latch onto you, I usually see how fast I can ditch her (my record is less than a minute, sounds easier than it is) and go to the boite and make my on choice. In most termas you can lounge around and have fun with the girls, drinking and carrying on, in Centaurus I never seem to be able to relax. Having said all these negative things, the girls are consistently slim and attractive, can be great performers. I would guess they have more English speaking girls here than other termas as well although, I speak enough basic Portuguese to get by now, it could be advantage for someone with zero Porto skills. I usually visit this place once or twice a trip as opposed to every day for the other termas (yes I know, I need Help!)

One more thing, the girls will constantly hound you for an upgrade from a 40 minute cabine to a 1hour suite. Centaraus kills you on the price with this and be ready for your response that may have to be said more than once. Man, I had to tell one girl like 5 times that I didn’t want an hour, persistent as a car dealer!

***Rio Antigo*** Joaquim Silva, 2, Gloria http://www.termasrioantigo.com.br/
M-F 2pm –Midnight.

Not far from Centro but still in Zona Sul. I have been to this Terma only twice and did not find anything to my liking. It may have been quiet when I was there but there were only about 20 girls despite being a nice large terma. Other fellow mongers have given me mixed feedback, some love it others tend to agree with my experience.

Centro Termas:
Centro is a great place to go and see where the locals work. Best way to get there is by Metro (urugaiana station) during the day (about 15minutes) and then a 10minute walk. I just love the hot balmy walk through the narrow streets to the termas. A cab back to Zona Sul at night will be about R$17. All Centro termas are closed on the weekend. Most are open from 2pm from 12pm.

Quatro X Quatro, (4x4) Rua Buenos Aires 44, Centro. Open from 2pm to 12pm M-F. Dead before 3.30pm, gets really crowed after 5pm. (up to 100 girls). Entrance R$30 (reduced to nil if you take a girl before 5pm), Girl + room $130 (40 minutes). Girl +suite $160 (60 minutes)=great value. Most Centro Termas are named after the street number, IE 4x4 is on Rua BA, at number 44, Terma 65 is on 65 Rua Rosario.

This terma is great, it is by far the biggest terma in Rio and I just love it. It is setup primarily for the locals, hence the predominant shape is big asses, but all shapes and sizes are present, and many touristas do go there. I find the best time to get there is around 4pm where I can grab a girl by 5pm, before the R$30 fee, but primarily before the crowds get really thick.

An interesting point: The locals guys tend to go to termas, primarily to drink and maybe grab a cheap feel, the majority won’t take a girl to a cabine at all, they can’t really afford it despite them being young upwardly mobile professionals, the salaries in Brazil are really poor compared to western standards. I make this point because even when 4x4 is crowed as hell, there are still plenty of girls available, and generally the girls will know you, being a gringo, are there for sexo.


Termas 65 Rua do Rosario, 65, Centro http://www.termas65.com.br/index.asp
Upto 40 girls.

One block from 4x4, this place is slightly more expensive than most. Entrance + Girl + Cabine is about R$230 from memory. Quality at my last visit was quite good.

Termas Aeroporto 216-C Beira Mar Av. Centro. http://www.termasaeroporto.com.br/
Entrance R$50, Girl + Cabine $140.

I have never been inside this place, I tried to go there twice but it was closed for renovations. By all reports it is worth a visit.

Termas 502, Rua de Alfandega, 502, Centro.
This place is a bit different. You do not change into a robe. Upon entry the receptionist gives you a bit of paper where your drinks are recorded. Entrance is R$10 and this includes 2 local drinks. I did not session here as there were only 10 or so girls, but then it was early and I was on my way to 4x4. The place was large and gave the impression of a once glorious past. Girls were OK quality just not many of them. Price was cheap, from memory about R$100 for the hour.

Other:
Praia Club 400: Avenida do Pepe, 400. Barra Da Tijuca. This place girls are cheap but drinks expensive, a R$25 cab ride from Copa. Opens about 6pm, and closes late. Not open on the weekend. Entrance R$40 (waved if you get there by 8pm), girls + room R$150 (for cash do not pay by cc).

Barra Da Tijuca is a nice change for a break. It is a very middle class, crime free area about 30minutes ride south of Rio. The drive down the coast road is quite spectacular as is the view to Rocinha, Rios biggest favela on the way, lock the door when passing through! Up to 40 girls were there on the 2 occasions I visited, some were very nice as well. Predominantly locals visit this place but surprising the girls were nice and slim. To session with the girls was nice and cheap R150 for girl and cabine if paid in cash, but look at the price of the drinks carefully, a red bull and vodka R$30, some other drinks were reasonably priced like local capirinha’s $R8, all are clearly marked on the menu. One more thing, do not pay for any of your bill by credit card, they slug you hard, 30% on top of your bill! In summary pay everything in cash, drink local drinks and it works out slightly less than Zona Sul termas even with cab fair if you can find a fellow amigo to split with.

There are heaps more Termas in Rio. This is just a list of the more popular ones. I find the termas the safest, best quality sex and most fun of all the sex options in Rio. They don’t pad the bill and the staff are usually just great. They are an institution!

I compiled this list, because when I was in Rio my first time, I struggled to find the addresses easily to all the places I had heard about, cut into valuable terma time. I hope you get some benefit out of it! I am Back in Rio at the end of Nov and staying all through Dec, can’t wait.

B J Lover
11-16-04, 16:32
Thanks man. I don't speak hardly any Portuguese, so all I could do is grunt and pant on the phone with her anyway! I'll keep my eye out for her, believe me, I will know when and if I see her.

WolfPack
11-17-04, 00:04
I am back in Rio. im writing this from the internet cafe on Rua Seguiros Campos. I wanted to do a revisit of the top termas. They stayed consistant with the last list I posted and I wanted to talk a bit about Terma 65:

1. And still #1 - Terma 65. The super suite has an off the hook jacuzzi with bubble bath. A must for the true international man of leisure. Accept no substitutes. I went at 3pm and it pretty much just opened. It was not crowded but I have been there when it was crowded and its always a good time either way. Its near 4x4 about a block up and over (I forgot the name of the street but 4x4 is on Rua Buenos Aires in Centro de Cidage). You have not lived until you experienced a foam party. It happened (again) today. The jacuzzi was pumping and lots of bubble bath foam everywhere. The girls started throwing foam at eachother. They were hysterical. I had to laugh from just watching. They were all foamy and started play fighting about who would get the next turn at my salami. They were taking turns at first but the play fighting got kind of serious and one headbutted the other (and pretty hard) one to get at my dick!!!! The one that got butted held her head and the other one took command of the trouser trout. She later recovered from the head butt and joined in again, laughing. It was a blast. 1 full hour of super suite with 2 garotas and jacuzzi ect. was about 560 real (less than 200 bucks). Insane.

After that, went to a restaraunt (the new favorite spot) behind Mia Pataca. I forgot the name but will get it and report back tomorrow. They have shrimp shishkabob that is really good. The shrimps are each the size of your fist and they give you 5 or 6 with broccoli rice. Really an awesome day so far. But then again every day has been. Peace my brothers. - The WOLF>

Lorenzo
11-18-04, 19:42
Bubba Boy,

Great post! Every once in while it's a good idea for someone to post a comprehensive overview of the termas situation. Yours is about the best that I've seen, and I can't disagree with anything you've said. Like you, I always go to L'uomo first. I have a soft spot in my heart for it because it was the first termas I visited, back in the medieval year 2000. Like your first fuck, your first termas is something you'll always remember.

I agree with you that termas girls are the best. Termas are not only the best way to go, they're pretty much the only way. Escort services and the 'classificados' in O Globo have worked for me as well, but remember that you're buying sight unseen. Help!, Meia Pataca, and Mabs are definitely at the bottom of the food chain--strictly for newbies. I can't blame a girl for trying, but some of the skanks at these places have a hell of a nerve asking a guy to pay money to fuck them. They would have to pay me!

Keep it up (no pun intended), my friend. Once again, a great post.

Lorenzo

Mimzy
11-18-04, 19:50
Hey,

Its a shame I missed you man was in Rio from Oct 14 to Nov1st I was all over the place could you give me Labrada's number I would appreciate that, hope to monger with you another time.

Mimzy

Crypton
11-19-04, 00:27
Bubba Boy,

Thanks for the great post. If and when I make it to Rio, I will certainly print that out. Really detailed and useful info. Thanks for taking the time.

Dutch Boy
11-19-04, 03:25
OK guys,

Well I need your help because I need the e-mail and website of a club in Rio called Bunker 94. It is located at 94 Copacabana. Its a club that plays electronic music, and I need the contact info of the bosses because I will be in Uruguay and Argentina soon for 2 dj gigs and I want to look for one in Rio or Sao Paulo but especially at this club.

I hope someone doesen't mind popping in there for me and getting the info I need. It will be very much appriciated and in return I can give the full Amsterdam tour for when people arrive here!

Thanx guys!

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add standard capitalization throughout the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no capital lettering. Thanks!

Skis Andy
11-19-04, 05:48
Bubba Boys terma report is excellent, but I disagree regarding Centaurus.
I think it is by far the best terma, though I only have limited experience: twice in Rio the last 2 years.

My opinion about the 3 termas I visited, on both trips:

4x4: Disappointing.The quality of the girls was mediocre, and the place is pretty basic, but funky. People are friendly, but where are the hotties? I don't understand what is so attractive there to many mongers.

Monte Carlo: Great management, great staff, fun atmospehere, nice girls, though talent is uneven. This is the perferct place to visit on your first evening in Rio, then walk around the corner to Help.

Centaurus: Sure, the owners and the people in the reception area are somewhat weird and rude - to the first time visitor. But- just go there 4 evenings in a row (like we did), and they are all smiles and hug you like old long lost relatives. The reason why we went there 4 days in a row: The incredible girls! Extremely friendly, great looking, excellent performers. When I couldn't decide between two, I enjoyed pleasurable duplas. Of course- they liked us there - we did spend quite a lot of reals there.

Still- I saw none of the pressure of a girls clinging to anyone at the entrance, or pushing to go to a cabine, or pushing for an upgrade. We spent hours before and after sessions in the boite, enjoying the scene.

OK, we all have our own favorites, and you know which is mine.
Now if only we could have a termas here in the US, wouldn't that be nice?
I would even be VERY happy with 4x4, LOL.

Alfie
11-20-04, 22:10
I'll be in Rio Feb 9-28 -- my first time, strictly for pleasure. Would be happy to hear from anyone who'll be there then.

RxHammer
11-21-04, 07:51
Rumor has it that Deborah (of past Monte Carlo fame) has recently ditched her American husband and moved back to Rio. Anybody in the known seen or heard anything ???? She is a true "SuperStar" as anyone who knows her can testify. One of her old co-workers told me she was back in town as of last September....

Skis Andy...

Your Terma comments were right on the money. Centauras has always been great for me too with none of the hassles mentioned by so many...

RxHammer

Cardinal II
11-21-04, 09:25
Hoi,

I'm looking for a phone number of the Professors bar in Rio, it is a small bar not far from Copacabana. I met there a beautiful girl, Mirelle in Juin. The owner off this bar did always translated my mails to her. And one day i did not hear anything from him? So I can not come in contact with my sweet girlfriend Mirelle. Mirelle's number does not work anymore. Can someone help me to find the Professor's or Mirelle's new number or new E-mail? Mirelle is a beautifull white skin, dark hair girl.

Thanks a lot,

Ruly

Chocho Negro
11-21-04, 11:27
Hi Dutch Boy,

The Rio Festa website http://www.riofesta.com.br/ says that Bunker 94 is closed now because it is being "reformado", reformed, improved, redecorated, whatever that may mean in true terms.

The address is
Bunker 94
Rua Raul Pompéia, 94 - Copacabana
Phone 2521-0367
website www.bunker94.com.br is also down.

Hope this helps,

Groetjes,

CN.

Johnny Darko
11-21-04, 12:54
Bubba boy, great report.

We should have a WSG Report Awards each coming January. I will be ready to nominate you and am sure that you will scoop one award or another. But then again, I think that you have been a little too hard on Centaurus. Yes, the staff is somewhat stiff and weird. Especially for first time visitors. But the girls are the best I have to admit and as far as I know the aim of mongerers is to monger rather than socialise with pimps. But each to his own.

Still, great work Bubba. Keep the good work

Johnny

Kid Cisco
11-21-04, 20:04
CENTAURAS, is one of the best to me also some guys have spoke about the $$$ and tourist up charge etc, for some reason I NEVER experince that at Centauras or had any troubles or problems as a matter of fact after going there a few days in a row the owner saw me coming in and WAVE my etrance fee told the girls not to charge me, I met other guys that been going there for years and to them they don't like how the other termas girls look.

I been going to Rio for years and I too like (Monta Carlos/Lumouo,Solaruim) a lot of guys don't talk about Rio Anigo's but its a nice spa to me very clean and laid back, BUT after I been to the other termas I keep returning to Centauras AND I CAN SEE the difference in the girls.

Ask yourself this question would you work sellling BENZ'S AND BMW and make more $$ off the sale, or would you rather sell a cheap ford?? these girls aren't dumb they rather meet nice American gringo with $$$ and don't have a problem spending it then go down to 4x4 and have loud ugly locals grabbing their bundas (butts) and Americans gringos trying to ask for all type of services from them for the same low price (anal/cum in mouth/no rubber) etc.

At least at Centauras they will make more $$ for those same acts.

I never could understand how a person could travel 9 hours on a plane and then worry and cry about paying a few dollars more in some cases as less then ($5.00 to $8.00) differents, to me the 1st place a person should go to is CENTAURAS, this should be were you rank other places termas or girls from what you seen at CENTAURAS, to me 4x4 is cool BUT, the girls get worn out and beat down by so many horney Americans looking for some cheap pussy, and the locals mostly grab on the girls ass and fuck them outside the termas in their office at lunch time (trust me many girls have told about how they make lunch visits to see locals) this is maybe why most locals just come there to drinks and smoke cigars at 4x4.

At Centauras, you won't find many locals and NOT to many Americans tourist this is what I like about the place you have young 9's and 10's that haven't been burn out, I will do a test here think about the girls you seen at 4x4 a few years ago and then you seen them years later and ask yourself would you still do them?

LOOK AT TISHA, she been pass around so much and used up and service so many guys to the point its almost sad, so the point is this sure it cost a little more at Centauras to me not that much more BUT you getting better girls that see few guys (a day/ a week/ a month).

So my advise, is to save your $$, and work some overtime or take a second job for your RIO'S TRIPS, and go to Centauras and other places WHY go to RIO if you NOT going to do and see the BEST?? if it cost to much at the termas just go there and see girls and just get their phone numbers booked appointments to see the girls outside the termas at your apartment.

Robert Palli
11-22-04, 01:37
Is it girl friendly no one has responded to the thread in hotels yet? please let me know.

Thanks

Undray
11-22-04, 06:22
Hey Guys

I've finally decided to take my 1st trip to Rio. Im leaving in Jan. 2005 and I will stay for about two months. If any of you guys want to show me around, or go monger please PM and lets do it. Also, any advice for a 'brotha' monger will be appreciated.

"pay for play...is the only way" :-)

Un

Smoke
11-23-04, 20:15
Me and my buddy will be heading back to Rio in January. I lost Don "The Tour Guides" contact information. If anyone has it, please post it or PM ASAP because I need to start making travel arrangements.

Also I would like to get people's opinions on escort services. I'm a termas guy and always will be, but I thought I would supplement my trip with escorts from ciaplus and companygirl. I've heard that companygirl will sometimes send girls that aren't the ones you picked from the website. As disturbing as that is, I still might take the chance considering the price and level of quality of these "models".

If you are not familar with these websites check them out at:
www.companygirl.com.br
www.ciaplus.com

B J Lover
11-23-04, 21:49
Congrats Un. If you are going to do it, I guess do it big. 2 months is serious so kudos to you. I'll be lucky to get a full week and 1/2 in.

In reality, pay for play is less than what you "pay" here. Even a girlfriend in the US is gonna cost you more than Rio (dinner, her birthdays and holidays, emotional bullshit!), so enjoy man.

Smirk53
11-24-04, 01:43
Cisc,

I think I've met you in rio and if you are who you say you are then I must confirm all of these statements you've been making. However if you are not who you are than please stop with the outlandishness (not a real word).

Smirk

P.S. thanks for the cubans!

J Wadd
11-24-04, 06:35
Have fun, mang! I go down for months at a time and have a blast all the way through. Two months is going to be a long time in any one city -- meaning that you might have to spend a little more time trying to find things other than women, drinking, dancing and eating seafood to do. Or maybe not -- that sounds like two months, easy.

As for being black, I wouldn't worry about it. But then I'm white, so what do I know? I've been to a majority of Brasil's big cities, and Rio is about the only place wherein I see black westerner's. Some of the girls might give you a little static (like less than 1%) -- or at least that's what they say to me sometimes out of Help, cursing some of the MTV hijinks that go on there from some Americans, etc. (inlcuding me, for instance -- smoking weed upstairs, etc.). Crazy fucking gringos. But money's always king...

Have fun and try to kill at least 100 women in your 60 days. I'm trying to get down there March/April for 6-7 weeks. If we overlap, we should party.

Happy Hunting,
JWadd

P.S. In strict pay-for-play bang-for-dollar ratios, Sao Paulo beats the shit out of Rio for mongering. But S.P. as a city is kinda lame. It is fun, though, for nightlife (clubs, discos, restaurants). But no beach, etc. If your a "daylight" guy, S.P. won't be your city. Give S.P. a try if the sauna/Help scene gets tired, I guess is what I'm basically trying to say.

Sun Seeker
11-24-04, 20:34
Hi All,

I have been a reader of this board for a while and it has been an invaluable source of information for planning my trips. After a two week trip to Rio this is my first report. I hope that it will make a worthwhile contribution to the information resource on this forum.

In summary, prices are up and quality is down, but Rio is still a great destination and I am already planning my next trip.

Help:

I visited Help on four occasions. On my first day (Saturday) I was just looking. I guess the girls at Help cater to every taste, but some of them were plain scary.
On my other three visits I pulled a girl each time. The first was a hard nosed pro from Sao Paulo who just went through the motions, the second was a really lovely amateur girl who made it seem like a first date, and the third was another pro this time from Bahia who was great fun and a lovely girl.

The price you will pay seems to depend on many variables, including your nationality, competence in Portugese, how gullible the girl thinks you are, how presentable/attractive/fun you appear, how keen you are to do a deal (never enter a negotiation you are not prepared to walk away from), how busy Help is. It seems that as soon as you enter Help, eyes are upon you, sizing you up and how much you would be charged. You remember girls from the previous night, but they also remember you, who you left with, if it was someone they know they probably know how much you paid and what you were like in the sack. So for the best deals it is important to maintain an appropriate profile.

The lowest opening quote that I received was 300reals, others started at 400 and 500reals. After negotiation I got most girls down to 200reals.

Most of the really attractive regular girls at Help are not worth the hassle. They tend to dance on their own in the bar areas and behave as though they are royalty. They also ask outrageous prices, 500real for the night.

Some of the girls must be earning a lot of money. I know one of the really attractive regular Help girls who has at least three customers per day, one during the day, one from Terracio Atlantico early evening and one from Help, and charges 300reals per time. Working six days a week this would generate nearly USD2000 per week, equivalent to USD100,000 per year. Not a bad income in America or Europe, but an absolute fortune in Brazil.

There are still some girls at Help that are worth seeking out, but you have to go through quite a long screening process, and ensure that your quality control and value for money standards don’t slip.

Luomo:

I made two visits to Luomo. On my first day in Rio I went to Luomo after a day on the beach and made the mistake of going with the first girl I talked to. She was OK, but when I returned to the bar afterwards there were plenty of more attractive girls available.

On my second visit there were very few attractive girls, but I did manage to find a very attractive blonde who looked like she was 18 but was actually 22.

Solarium:

I made two visits to Solarium. My first visit was on a Sunday and it was packed with attractive girls. Chose a tall black girl who was great fun and good in the cabine. Returning to the bar I spotted a cute Poco Hontas lookalike. Couldn’t resist so I took her to a cabine and she was very good.

On my second visit to Solarium on a Saturday night, the selection of girls was a very disappointing, but I did find an attractive black girl who used to work at Luomo and was great in the cabine.

Centauraus:

I made two visits to Centauraus. The price has gone up to 310reals! The man behind the counter mumbled something about exchange rates affecting the price, but actually the dollar and the pound have depreciated against the real, only the euro has strengthened. On my first trip the quality was very disappointing and I spent two hours waiting for an attractive girl to show up. The wait was worth it because I found one of the most gorgeous P4P girls I have ever met.
Made a second visit hoping to see the same girl but she didn’t show up. Again, quality very disappointing, but after waiting a while I managed to find another girl who was almost as cute as the previous one.

Monte Carlo:

I made one visit to Monte Carlo. The overall quality was very disappointing, but I eventually found an attractive girl who gave good service in the cabine. Was not inclined to make a return trip.

4x4:

I made one visit to 4x4 in the middle of the afternoon. It was well worth the trip to the Centro area because it was packed with attractive girls. The pricing is also very good, with 40minutes at 140reals and the 20real entrance fee waived if you take a girl to a cabine before 5pm. If I’d had time I would definitely have returned to 4x4. I took advantage of the pricing and had two girls in the cabine, total cost 280 reals which is less than the cost of one girl in Centauraus.

In all of the termas there were girls who were deeply unattractive, and I couldn’t imagine how they could make any money working in a terma. Ironically Centaurus seemed to have the highest proportion.

It is sometimes said that these days the attractive Brazilian pros go to Europe and America to work where they can earn much more money. It seems that there is a lot of truth in this, a number of the girls I spoke to said they were planning to leave Brazil to make more money elsewhere. The trouble is when they return and start putting up the prices. Given the rise in value of the real, a trip to Brazil is by no means the steal it used to be. For example, the top brothels in Southern Spain charge Euro150 for an hour in a luxury room with Jacuzzi, Queen sized bed, ‘special’ chair, and a really attractive (usually South American) girl. This equates to 350reals for 40 minutes, and compares to 310 reals in Centauraus. Even compared to approx 200reals in the other termas, the price is still more than half the European price. Once you add in travel and accommodation costs, that trip seems even less of a bargain. It is therefore essential that we all negotiate hard and keep prices more realistic for a country with Brazil’s cost of living.

MSJ44
11-24-04, 21:45
Undray,

As a fellow "brotha" monger who went to Rio as a 1st timer, you'll have a great time. I found Brazilian garota's loved blackmen. But as you know, at the end of the day, money talks. If you get the time, check out some of the "non-pro" girls at the clubs and bars in Ipanema. Had I had the time, I would have followed up on many that I met.

But enjoy. You'll find Help will get a little stale after several visits, so definitely look to make contacts wth the Termas girls for fun back at the hotel.

Hojo
11-25-04, 05:28
Hello Everyone,

I will be landing in Rio the morning of Christmas Eve (24 December 2004). My question is what is a monger to do Christmas Eve and Christmas day? I am assuming HELP and the Thermas will be closed for business. It would be ashamed for these two days to go to waste.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

pop till you drop,
hojo

Exec Talent
11-25-04, 10:56
My impression of the escorts in Rio is that they were high performers and have great attitudes and personailities, but maybe not someone you would pick out at a termas or Help. The women that I saw (see Escort section) were some of the nicest and most down to earth that I met in Rio. I was never overwhelmed, but for the price, never felt ripped-off. Worth a go at least once, but it helps when calling if you speak some Portuguese.

Rio Bob
11-26-04, 03:33
Who knows Help might be open, I never been there on Xmas day but if it is not I am sure that the beach in front of the Othon Palace will be stocked with garotas looking for business, you can guaranty it. Just go to the beach and pick one out for the holidays and play Santa Claus.

Zidaho
11-26-04, 20:51
Hey Hojo,

I was in Rio, Christmas 2003 and it was Dead, it was raining, and it was a Thursday, even Help was closed!! I did notice some beautiful escorts arriving at various hotels along Avenue Atlantica (Copa) at the time wishing I had planned earlier for a couple of escorts that night. This year Xmas falls on a Saturday, and this will be my third time in Rio.

I now have nice list of some very naughty girls to whom I will be giving presents on Christmas day. My favorite naughty little vixen (Raphella sp) is arriving from Madrid the middle of December. I am putting her on retainer for 100-150R a day because she's fun, and likes to play and organize games with all of the other vixens. Ha, ha.

Send me an email if you want to meet for a beer. BTW, I am trying to find a monger who will take a beautiful sexy beast with him for four or five days and join Raphela and myself on a mini vacation to Florinopolis for some sports, fun, and relaxation.

Sunset Strip
11-26-04, 21:38
I have been in Rio for Christmas. Although it is slow during the day things pick by the afternoon. Mabs was open about 3pm, so I sat around there and had a good time. Overall, it is business as usual in Rio.

Christmas is a good time to be in Rio because it precedes the onslaught of tourists who begin arriving around Dec. 27th for New Years. Christmas is probably the last opportunity for a real monger to sit back and relax for awhile.

I am sure those of you who will be there this Christmas will have a good time!

TJ

Robert Palli
11-27-04, 05:36
My visa expired so they deported me. I flew to Rio and back with not leaving the airport. The visa said issued 09/08/04. Supposedly that is August 9th not Dec 8 so it expired and the stupid American Airlines was supposed to check it and notify me but they didn't. I am glad those people were charged a 3000 fine for that. But still I wanted so much to visit the termas. Bah on brazilian visas.

HotTraveler
11-27-04, 20:59
Someone visited Vila Mimosa?

I was in the year 2.000 but now I don´t know about is the situation.

I wish to go to Rio the next year and I would like to do a visit at this place,
because there are lots of *****s and cheap prices.

Greetings.

Java Man
11-27-04, 22:35
the value of the dollar is dropping. the exchange rate today according to xe.com is $1 = R2.73. can anyone tell me what exchange rate the Citibank ATM is currently giving?
thanks in advance.

Lorenzo
11-27-04, 23:59
Robert Palli,

Hey, dude, don't blame the Brazilian government, American Airlines, or anyone but yourself for your own stupidity. Since Brazilian visas are valid for five years, I assume the reason you weren't admitted was because your initial visit wasn't made within 90 days of the date of issue. On the visa, it states very clearly, "valid for arrival within 90 days." If your visa was issued on 9 August 2004, this means that you must arrive by 7 November 2004 at the latest. You could have figured this out for yourself...duh! Now you'll have to get a new visa if you want to visit Brazil; too bad.

How about acting like a man and trying to accept some responsibility for your behavior?

Lorenzo

Robert Palli
11-28-04, 02:07
The visa said issued on 9/08/04, it didn't have any titles like day month or year even in Portugues for me to know when it was issued. I was gonna go in Sept but something came up and I thought it was issued for sept 8 since I was gonna go around that time but it was actually issued the month before. Why can't they just label their visas. It didn't actualy say august 09 if it had I would have known it expired. I read it but it wasn't clear. I think I am to blame too but they should label their visas more clearly for those whose lives don't revolve around Brazil. just my opinion.

Robert

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Jose Sanchez
11-28-04, 02:19
I am headed down to rio between christmas and new years. This will be my third trip. If awayone is planning to be down there and wants to meet up email me at jose11248@lycos.com. I like to eat at fancy restuarant and frequent the termas.

I want to expand my activities outside of just pros and move to semi-pros or non-pros. Does anyone have advice with that? Is there a way I can begin email with some hotties who think I am interest in more than just sex. I would love to take a really attractive Brazilian non-pro to dinner and then screw her.

Any advice?

Kenn
11-28-04, 13:29
Robert Palli, the Brazilian Visa actually spells out the date of issue..
for example Jun 24, 2000..

It also says that it must be used within 90 days of issue. So there should have been no confusion on your part.. You don't mention if you received a 30 day Visa or a 5 year Visa.. In either case you should have read it carefully... You and the airlines are to blame, not the Brazilian Government.

Oh! you were not deported either. You were never allowed in, so you could not have been deported. Refused entry YES, deported NO...

Brazil Specialist
11-28-04, 19:53
Hello Everyone,

I will be landing in Rio the morning of Christmas Eve (24 December 2004). My question is what is a monger to do Christmas Eve and Christmas day? I am assuming HELP and the Thermas will be closed for business. It would be ashamed for these two days to go to waste.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

pop till you drop,
hojoThis is the worst time of the year for mongering.

I am not sure if Help and termas are open, actually they might.

The local venues I use, internet escort agencies, cheap brothels etc will all be closed for sure. I think even my semi pro friends will all be with their families and boyfriends.

Whoever knows better, let me know.

If I wanted a girl during these days, I would ask several girls a few days in advance, probably someone could come.

Robert Palli
11-28-04, 20:23
My visa did not have the date labeled. It just said 09/08/04. must be different in each consulate. Mine in Los angeles just sucks. they don't even issue same day visas. It takes minimum 7 days for it.

JoshJosh69
11-28-04, 21:19
SInce we're on the subjet of visas, I am returning to Brasil on the 19th of January, my visa expires on the 4th of January. Does anyone know the process of renewing the visa. Do I have to take photos again, fill out the or9iginal application again, or is it a quicker and smoother process? I can't find any info on the consulate website.

Thanks

Rio Bob
11-29-04, 02:09
Josh, I believe that you have to do everything over again like you never had a visa before, no shortcuts if you had one before. These 5 year visas are great but doesn't the 5 years go fast. In the 1980's when I used to go they only gave visas for 90 days, I had to get extra pages in my passport as I had several visa stamps per year and had to go to the consulate several times a year, what a pain, but I was younger then.

Carioca Me
11-29-04, 03:08
Hello all,

I'm in Rio now, if anyone wants to head out with me, drop a line. I'll be here until Thursday. :)

Amerioca
11-29-04, 03:10
Yup, still there.

Termas Casa Branca in Niteroi is just as cheap. It is two blocks from the rodoviaria.

John H.
Amerioca


Someone visited Vila Mimosa?

I was in the year 2.000 but now I don´t know about is the situation.

I wish to go to Rio the next year and I would like to do a visit at this place,
because there are lots of *****s and cheap prices.

Greetings.

Silent Nited
11-29-04, 05:37
Hey fellas,

Me and a couple of other guys are planning a trip to either Costa Rica or Brazil. It will be our first time going to either and we are looking to have a good time with the chicas.

Any suggestions or recommenddations on either will be appreciated.

RonnyRon
11-29-04, 06:35
JoshJosh69,

Here is the link to download the application:

http://www.brazilhouston.org/ingles/visaform.htm

Yes you will need the photos.

RonnyRon

Jose Sanchez
11-29-04, 07:30
I was there a couple of years ago for Christmas and while Christmas day sucks for monger, there are actually a few more girls in town visiting their families and trying to make an extra buck for the holidays.


Hey Hojo,

I was in Rio, Christmas 2003 and it was Dead, it was raining, and it was a Thursday, even Help was closed!! I did notice some beautiful escorts arriving at various hotels along Avenue Atlantica (Copa) at the time wishing I had planned earlier for a couple of escorts that night. This year Xmas falls on a Saturday, and this will be my third time in Rio.

I now have nice list of some very naughty girls to whom I will be giving presents on Christmas day. My favorite naughty little vixen (Raphella sp) is arriving from Madrid the middle of December. I am putting her on retainer for 100-150R a day because she's fun, and likes to play and organize games with all of the other vixens. Ha, ha.

Send me an email if you want to meet for a beer. BTW, I am trying to find a monger who will take a beautiful sexy beast with him for four or five days and join Raphela and myself on a mini vacation to Florinopolis for some sports, fun, and relaxation.

Lorenzo
11-29-04, 08:24
My visa did not have the date labeled. It just said 09/08/04. must be different in each consulate. Mine in Los angeles just sucks. they don't even issue same day visas. It takes minimum 7 days for it.

Robert Palli,

I guess you still don't get it. On your visa, 09/08/04 IS the "date label," that is, the date the visa was issued, and the clock starts ticking then. As you found out the hard way, you must arrive for your first visit no later than 90 days from the date of issue. After that, it doesn't matter, except that no single visit may last more than 90 days (unless you go to the Federal Police and get permission to stay longer), and in no case may you stay longer than 180 days in a calendar year. BTW, since these dates seem to confuse you, it's helpful to know that everywhere in the world except the USA (and even in the USA on your passport), the order of these numbers is day/month/year. In the USA, where nobody seems to give a shit how the rest of the world does things, e.g. we're just about the only country in the world not to adopt the metric system, the order is month/day/year. Remembering this can avoid a lot of confusion. For example, on the customs and immigration documents you fill out before landing, you should put down the date in the rest-of-the-world manner, not the American manner.

JoshJosh69,

There is no such thing as renewing a Brazilian visa. You must get a completely new one, including filling out a new application form (which can be downloaded from the consulate's website), new photos, etc., and of course the $100 application fee.

BTW, if anyone thinks the Brazilian requirements are an imposition, they pale in comparison to what the US government requires Brazilians (and most other foreigners) to go through in order to visit the US. The only reason the Brazilian government requires a visa, $100 fee, fingerprinting, etc., from US citizens is because this is retaliation--and who can blame them?--for what the US requires of them. Canadians, for example, don't need a visa at all (or so I have been told).

Lorenzo

Snooky
11-30-04, 03:13
I've been to both a number of times and Rio wins hands down. The only downfall is the 10 hour flight but well worth it..



Hey fellas,

Me and a couple of other guys are planning a trip to either Costa Rica or Brazil. It will be our first time going to either and we are looking to have a good time with the chicas.

Any suggestions or recommenddations on either will be appreciated.

Snooky
11-30-04, 03:25
Mine had the month written (actually typed) out but I can understand the confusion if it was written in that format. In the US we recognize it mm/dd/yyyy but in Brazil they read it as dd/mm/yyyy. I'm sure this was confusing to the ticket agent too.

The Brazillian consulates have different ways of doing these visas.The 5 year visa I have is a white sticker affixed to a page in my passport with the date typed in and the month spelled out, this was the DC consulate. My friend who is from Houston got his 5 year and it was stamped into his passport and the date hand written.



The visa said issued on 9/08/04, it didn't have any titles like day month or year even in Portugues for me to know when it was issued. I was gonna go in Sept but something came up and I thought it was issued for sept 8 since I was gonna go around that time but it was actually issued the month before. Why can't they just label their visas. It didn't actualy say august 09 if it had I would have known it expired. I read it but it wasn't clear. I think I am to blame too but they should label their visas more clearly for those whose lives don't revolve around Brazil. just my opinion.

Spidy
11-30-04, 05:59
The only reason the Brazilian government requires a visa, $100 fee, fingerprinting, etc., from US citizens is because this is retaliation--and who can blame them?--for what the US requires of them. Canadians, for example, don't need a visa at all (or so I have been told).
Lorenzo

Lorenzo, I believe Canadians still do need a VISA to go to Brazil just like Americans. I do not believe this has changed yet!

Ciao
Spidy

Kenn
11-30-04, 12:16
Canadians "DO NEED" Tourist Visas..... Check here to see who does and who does not need Visas..

http://www.brazilian-consulate.org/consular/ListofCountries.htm

Lorenzo
11-30-04, 19:46
OK, apparently I was wrong about Canada. But I clicked on Kenn's link and scanned the list, and it appears that citizens from most of the countries of Latin America and western Europe are not required to have visas. My point was that Brazil requires visas of citizens of those countries that require visas from Brazilians, and they charge the same fee that the other countries charge Brazilians. The reason Brazilians charge Americans US$100 is because that is what we charge Brazilians. Canada was just the wrong example. Thanks to those who pointed out the error; Lorenzo doesn't like to be wrong.

Lorenzo

Robert Palli
11-30-04, 19:58
I met a German guy who also got deported who didn't need a tourist visa but needed a work visa and didn't have one.

Hey, anyone know of any action in Buzios. I am thinking of taking a tour with 3 days in Rio and 3 days in Buzios. Do you think a Rio girl would come along to Buzios for the bus ticket 1st class, meals, drinks, and hotel only, or would she expect money per day. Also any action in Buzios on the beaches or any termas or anything like that? LET me know. MSG ME or reply. I did not see a Buzios category under Brazil and did not find anything by using search function. Please help. I am horny.

Roberrt

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Hojo
12-01-04, 02:28
Hey fellas,

Me and a couple of other guys are planning a trip to either Costa Rica or Brazil. It will be our first time going to either and we are looking to have a good time with the chicas.

Any suggestions or recommenddations on either will be appreciated.


Hello Silent Nited,

I've been to Rio a few time and Costa Rica once. The main difference between the two is most of the Costa Rican girls will offer you an hour or two for about $100USD where as the Brazilians will give you all night for $150R($54USD).

Generally speaking the Thermas in Rio are much nicer and have a better selection of girls than the Costa Rican bars and massage parlors. It seems the Costa Rican Massage Parlors I've been to have about 15 girls working at most. While the smallest Therma I've ever visited had 30 girls working. The Therma girls look on average about 23 years old while in Costa Rica the average age looks about 28. This observation is based solely on my experiences.

In my humble opinion you get more bang for your buck and better quality in Rio.

You also get a larger variety of types of women in Brazil: Blonds, Brunets, Latinas, African Americans, and even some Asians. Costa Rica seems much less diverse.

Also, recharging between sessions by hanging out at the Copa Cabana Cafe's overlooking the beach beats hanging out in San Jose any day.


pop till you drop,
hojo

Kenn
12-01-04, 11:21
CR is like a 7-11, you can find what you need but the selections are small and prices are high..

Rio is like a "Super" WalMart.. plenty to choose from at discounted prices..

Papi Muy Rico
12-02-04, 06:53
I am going to stopover in Rio from Dec 8 to Dec 12 on my way back from Manaus. I would like to hook up with anyone interested in looking for garotas, specially rookies or first-timers. I speak fluent portuguese, know the city, the main tourist attractions. I could be your free tour guide. There is safety in numbers and Rio is a very dangerous city.

This time I want to do the following for the first time: Visit 4X4, order a girl from an agency and do a tour of the tourist points in Centro. I also would like to go to Maracana. Ahhh... and go to a non-pro venue like Baronetti or Lapa clubs.

Let me know if anyone is interested.

Kid Cisco
12-02-04, 15:32
Silent Nited,

This is a question I get ask all the time without knowning anything about your background, meaning have you ever been outside the USA or what langauge you speak or if you been in the Armed Forces etc.

I would answer you this way.

1st Costa Rica+

Very short flight from the east coast about 3 hours away

Most girls I found speak some English.

Many local girls to hook up with.

You can walk around and get around the city really easy (BUT at night you need a taxi)

Also you will find many girls on 90 days visa working the bars from (Colombia/DR/Panama)etc.

Food is cheap/ nice shopping.

Also Delta have flights most of the time round trip on sale for under $300. 00.

Now Cost Rica- You won't find many girls wanted to spend more then a hour or two with you prices are very high up to $100. 00 a hour.

Most girls are older and their bodies aren't up to Rio girls standards.

Only a few massage parlors worth going to (only a hand full of girls you will find worth doing).

Many loud drunk gringos willing to pay the girls whatever they ask for some guys pay up to $200. 00 a hour and think they got a good deal.

Now Rio+

Many girls willing to spend time with you for as low as $50. 00 a night.

Many girls will do anal (if that's your thing).

Girls with great attiudes they will smile and laugh at your dumb jokes and treat you like a king.

Many termas (massage parlors) to go to will won't have a problem finding girls you will like.

Now for Rio -

You will have to deal with many kids throwing shit on your shoes, many street people asking you for $$$

Flights to Rio will run you up to $1, 200. 00 (also I have got flights as low as $500. 00)

Many P. I. M. P.S. asking to take you around for a fee (you can very easy find termas or any place you won't on your own).

Taxi's will charge you a arm and a leg if you not careful

Many places you will need to take a taxi (don't walk around at night)

The police from time to time will stop you in your taxi with you with your girl looking for a pay off.

All and all the deal is this if you have only a few days 3-5, and don't won't to spend a long time in the air, and you want to find girls that speak English and you aren't that picky then you will enjoy Costa Rica.

But, if you have 10-13 days to spend and you enjoy nice round butts and you want to get 9's and 10's at a good rate, then Rio is for you.

One last time to me its never either or if I have the time and $$$ I will go to both places I enjoy going to many different cities overseas be it (Thailand/Costa Rica/DR/Germany/Brazil/Netherlands) to point is this life is short if you run across a sale going to Costa Rica or some other place check it out Costa Rica use to be a really nice place now so many gringos have went there in overpaid the girls until now you have 6's and 7's THAT WILL DEMAND $100. 00!

So go to Rio and then go to Costa Rica you will have a good time in both places, then you can decide which place you enjoy the best some guys I met in Costa Rica been going there for decades and they WON'T go to any other place for free, the same goes for Rio.

Kid Cisco

Lover Boy #2
12-03-04, 06:00
I think that Bubba Boy's post on the termas should be a "sticky" as it would avoid a lot of repetative questions. It is a great post and he should certainly be elevated to Senior status. Excellent writing.

Lorenzo, could you have a heart with Mr. Palli? His posts have brought a tear to my eye. This guy went all the way to Rio and got turned around without any tang!!!! Can you imagine for one moment the way he feels? He made a mistake with the dates and this is obvious, but man this guy is paying the price. I doubt he will ever make a mistake like that again. Lorenzo, you really know how to slap the hand hard and without compassion for a fellow monger.

Lorenzo
12-03-04, 08:02
Lover Boy #2,

Well, I might have been a little more compassionate if he had accepted some responsibility for fucking up (which he later did). It just pushes my buttons when somebody blames everyone else except themselves, which, if you read his original post, is exactly what he did. It's far more manly to acknowledge that you fucked up and accept responsibility; that is when compassion is due.

Lorenzo

Lover Boy #2
12-03-04, 09:00
On to the next subject.....

I don't understand all the posts concerning the confusion with the 90 day vs. the 5 year Visa. Over the past year a lot of guys have made mistakes and confuse the two and have spent a lot of money "fixing" things as a result. What I don't understand, is that the 5 year Visa requires a letter of introduction from your company explaining who you are and why you need the 5 year business Visa in the first place. So, how can someone have presented this introduction, paid a different Visa amount for tourist vs. business, obtained a Visa that clearly states that it must be used within a certain amount of time and in English state how long it is good for......... and still not know what they have?

Royalflush
12-03-04, 18:28
As much as I hate to continue this stupid discussion, I felt compelled to mention that the post by loverboy is wrong. The 5-yr visa does not require an accompanying letter. It's optional. How do I know this? I've applied and received 5-yr visas twice, once very recently, without including such a letter.

I suggest anyone else who consults the world sex guide for visa information is a fool.

Thanks to those who posted useful information on the Thermas, especially the discount coupons for Montecarlo and Solarium. I'm in Rio and going to use them soon.

Lorenzo
12-03-04, 18:31
Lover Boy #2,

You don't have to get a business visa to get a visa that is valid for 5 years. A tourist visa is valid for 5 years; I know because I am currently on my second one. You don't need any letter of introduction from anyone. You just need 2 photos, a completed application (which can be downloaded), your passport with at least 6 months remaining before expiration (something every country requires), and $100 in cash for the visa fee. You need to leave your passport with them for a few days, then come back and pick it up with the visa stamped in it. Last I heard--and this is pure retaliation for US treatment of Brazilians--it is no longer possible for US citizens to mail in the application and supporting documents; you must show up in person at the consulate in whose region you live. (This was as of a few months ago. Since they no longer require fingerprinting at the airport, this may have changed as well.)

I have never heard of a 90-day visa. If there is such a thing, i.e. if someone has actually had or seen one--not just rumor or conjecture--please let us know. Why anyone would want a 90-day visa when a 5-year is available I can't comprehend. Where the 90 days come in is the requirement that the first visit on the 5-year tourist visa must occur within 90 days of the date of the visa's issue. If you don't visit within 90 days, then the visa is no longer valid, and you must start over and apply for a new one. After you have made the initial visit, there is no restriction on the frequency of visits, as long as you don't stay more than 90 days on any one visit without permission from the federal police, and don't stay more than 180 days in a year. If you do, this is considered overstaying your visa and could very well get you barred from re-entering the country.

One more thing--and admittedly this is hairsplitting--nobody seems to know whether the 180 day maximum in a single year refers to 180 days in any one calendar year, e.g. 2004, 2005, or to a maximum of 180 days in the year that follows your first entry into the country. I have seen both opinions expressed on this forum. If anyone knows for sure, please enlighten us.

Lorenzo

Snooky
12-04-04, 02:00
I don't know about a 90 day visa but I do know that they have a 6 month visa and it costs the same as the 5 year visa. It is at the discretion of the consulate. The same friend from Houston was issued a 6 month one and had to pay another $100 for the 5 year visa after he complained after he realized it was a 6 month visa after his trip. He has no clue why the gave him the 6 month visa.




I have never heard of a 90-day visa. If there is such a thing, i.e. if someone has actually had or seen one--not just rumor or conjecture--please let us know.

Lover Boy #2
12-04-04, 07:26
Lorenzo and Snooky and all Brasil mongers,

I cannot imagine what this is about, other than to believe that different areas offer differnt plans (and that makes no sense at all).

If you go to this official consulate website;

http://www.brazilmiami.org/consulado/English/visas/TOURIST%20VISA.htm

you will see the information about the 90 day tourist visa.

If you go to this official consulate website;

http://www.brazilmiami.org/consulado/English/visas/BUSINESS%20VISA.htm

you will see information about the 5 year business visa.

Also, if you read the information on the site, it clearly gives instructions for doing this by mail.

This is totally different than what both of you state, making me believe that Brasil somehow gives discretion to local consular officials and allows them to issue different papers in differnet areas, with different rules and time limitations. Maybe that is the reason for all this confusion?

Lover Boy #2
12-04-04, 07:37
Also,

I read it carefully and it clearly states that the Tourist Visa expires 90 days from entry (and yes, must be used within 90 days of obtaining it).

"You must enter Brazil within 90 days from the date your visa was issued; otherwise that visa will no longer be valid. After entering the country, your visa will then be valid for 90 days from the date of entry, unless otherwise stated in the visa".

It doesn't say the visa is good for 6 months at all. This visa costs $100 U.S.

The Business visa I refer to (the one good for 5 years), costs an additional $60 U.S., bringing the total to $160 U.S. For this one, you need the letter of introduction from your company, as stated on the site.

Lover Boy #2
12-04-04, 07:55
I took a look at another area of the Brasil consulate for the U.S. (my original was from Miami, and this was New York....the other sites did not work at all!!)...and from a quick look, it seems that they are confused too. There are different rules and the time limitations are even more confusing than the Miami site. I personally do not have a U.S. passport, but my good friend does and he got his in Miami and the original information I supplied came directly from the paperwork he got with the visa....and yes, New York doesn't accept by mail, but Miami does.

On a lighter note with a lot less complication; Does anyone have any experience at "Spaco 45", located at Rua da Assembleia 45, 12th andar, Centro? I have never been to this place, but a local resident said it was very good. If anyone knows or can check it out, it might be a find (but who knows?).

Also, based on my walkabout to the area, the terma once known as Pedagio's and later as Beach Girls, seems to be completely closed/gone, with construction going on in that area of the mall. In 1995 this was a fairly good place, but from reading reviews on this forum, it seems that it fell down and deserved to close. Farewell Pedagio!

Rio Bob
12-04-04, 21:34
I met a German guy who also got deported who didn't need a tourist visa but needed a work visa and didn't have one.

Hey, anyone know of any action in Buzios. I am thinking of taking a tour with 3 days in Rio and 3 days in Buzios. Do you think a Rio girl would come along to Buzios for the bus ticket 1st class, meals, drinks, and hotel only, or would she expect money per day. Also any action in Buzios on the beaches or any termas or anything like that? LET me know. MSG ME or reply. I did not see a Buzios category under Brazil and did not find anything by using search function. Please help. I am horny.

Roberrt

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I have been to Buzios several times, there are no termas there and it is a place that mostly couples go to, like a honeymoon place. But I will tell you I met girls in the bars that live there and they were ready for P4P, I also met girls who live there who were ready for play and I met tourists there from Argentina and Chile, beautiful girls that were on vacation. Its not like Help or Ave. Atlantica but I was in an open air bar on Rua das Pedras which is the main street and I made friends with a garota who worked in a beauty parlor there and she pointed out to me all the girls at the bar that were working for a living, they were pretty nice, I got many offers that night. The place is not a guarante but mostly on the weekend you can find action.

Lorenzo
12-05-04, 00:31
Lover Boy #2,

I don't want to beat this issue of visas to death, because it's already getting old. However, I clicked on your first link to the Miami consulate, the one regarding tourist visas, and read it carefully. I think what they say depends on interpretation. Yes, you quoted them correctly, but I still think this does not mean that the visa expires 90 days after you arrive in Brazil. It means that 90 days is the maximum length you can stay without otherwise getting permission. Your visa still remains valid for a total of 5 years for multiple entries, provided no one visit exceeds 90 days, and that you don't stay for more than 180 days in a year. I checked the websites for the LA and SF consulates, and they say the same thing the Miami website does, but the visa is still valid for 5 years. And you're right, apparently some consulates permit mail applications and others don't.

I don't dispute your information on business visas, but I don't see why someone going to Brazil just to monger would need one when a tourist visa would suffice.

Lorenzo

Lover Boy #2
12-05-04, 03:59
I wonder if anyone who has a regular tourist visa, one who entered Brazil within the 90 days from date of issue and who stayed for let's say 3 weeks, was then able to enter Brasil a year later? I am sure there are a lot of guys on here who have either done this....or who had to get another visa the second time they went a year later. I am not quite sure, but I think you (Lorenzo) said that you were in this position, so I guess your read is the one the consulate of Brasil has as policy.

English is not my native language, so maybe I am looking at this in a literal sense and Brasil officially uses their hands. Anything is possible. I even went as far as to look at my friends' regular tourist visa that he used last month. On the stamp, it clearly states that the visa expires 90 days from first entry into Brasil. Maybe they don't actually mean that. He believes that if he is lucky enough to be able to return in 2005, that he needs a new visa and he claims that he called Miami and was told exactly that. On the business visa it clearly states that the visa is good for 1825 days at the top of the stamp. Does the tourist one say that? My friends' does not.

I am totally confused at this point. Lorenzo, you are right that this is getting old, but I just hope others don't get into the situation of the guy who got stopped in Houston and Mr. Palli.

Snooky
12-05-04, 05:09
Mine say "5 anos". I did find a detailed explaination of visa at the following site.

http://www.brasilemb.org/consulado/consular_visa_tourism.shtml


Also check out the SF site. http://www.brazilsf.org/visa_faq_eng.htm and read number 8. From what I read, only Americans and Canadians get tourist visas for 5 years. All other nationalities get 90 day visas.



On the business visa it clearly states that the visa is good for 1825 days at the top of the stamp. Does the tourist one say that? My friends' does not.

Wham39
12-05-04, 06:13
"You must enter Brazil within 90 days from the date your visa was issued; otherwise that visa will no longer be valid. After entering the country, your visa will then be valid for 90 days from the date of entry, unless otherwise stated in the visa".There are multiple visa durations. Just make sure the next time you get a visa for brazil it is the 5 year one.

Lover Boy #2
12-05-04, 06:35
# 8 does say it all. I guess that brings an end to this. The other consulates and their personnel need to read #8. The consulate in Miami is stamping American passports with a 90 day duration when Americans and Canadians get 5 years. Maybe it was just for a certain period of time when one uninformed clerk was doing the stamping. My friend thanks you, as he will call the consulate on Monday and get his passport re-stamped....he thought it was another $100 for another visa next year. With a copy of the webpage in hand and a good argument, I think he will succeed.

Brazil Specialist
12-05-04, 10:36
From what I heard, Visa validity varies a lot. It depends on the mood of the consular officer, also a good visa service seems to get longer duration.

Some Visa expire after 90 days (if you don't enter Brazil in 90 days after emission you lost it), others are 5 years.

Yes, Germans and most Europeans do not need a visa. this is because they don't require Brazilians to have a Visa to to to their countries.

B J Lover
12-06-04, 17:12
Yep, depends on Consulate I guess. For my region, the Miami consulate has the 90 day/90 day deal. But I'm damn sure going to request 5 years in big black letters when I send it off.

CaptainNemo
12-07-04, 02:14
I checked out Help recently. It sucked big time.

I went there around 1:30am. It was packed. The ratio of guys and girls were 3 to 1. WTF, Way too many guys that night. Most of them are Europeans. I did not even bother do a price check. My weak US dollar can not match with the strong Euro.

I did not see any beauty in the Help. The best time of year in the Help is January. A lof of girls outside of Rio come to Help to work.

Hojo
12-07-04, 05:36
Hello,

I know exchange rates are posted on the internet but can anyone tell me what the exchange rate is when using the ATM machines?

Also, when I need to change cash $USD to $Reals, which "Cambio" place will give me the best rate?

This will help me decide how much cash to bring and how much to take out of the ATM.

I have come to know that what is printed in the news paper is not what the "Cambios" and the ATM machines give you usually.

I also know that HELP will exchange my cash $100 a night at an above average exchange rate, but only when they do not have cash flow problems. I have actually been turned down by the cashier at HELP because too many people changed their money that night.

pop till you drop,
hojo

Java Man
12-07-04, 06:09
From what I've been hearing, the Citibank ATM was giving R2.68, when the exchange rate on the net was R2.70. It fluctuates everyday. The cambios will match the net rate, and some will give a better rate. it's kinda difficult to point you to a good cambio. A local will get a much better rate if he or she is known by the cambio, btw. During my visit in Nov. Help had the best Rate, R2.95 to everyone else's R2.88, and the Citibank's R2.85.

Joey Kid
12-07-04, 21:36
Fella's is March a good time to go to Rio, and where is a cheap place to stay that is close to the action. Send me a private message.

Scotch
12-08-04, 00:14
In New York the Visa is for 5 years you just have to enter before 90 days. I call before hand and was told to bring my airline ticket, money order from the post office only with me and got my Visa the next day. This was in Oct of 2004.

Help did have the best rate in Oct 2004, so I went evey night just to change money. They allowed me to change 200us, but one night they ran out of money.

I also notice the girls in the therma always say they never go or ever worked at help. Most are lying, but were willing to go as my date when they were off work at the therma. I will be back in March or 2005 can't wait.

Sunset Strip
12-08-04, 00:36
The Citibank ATM gives the current, at the moment, rate. So when you see a posted rate that differs from what you got it is usually a result of this. I watched Bloomberg financial TV in my apartment and saw one rate then got another when I went to Citibank. I was stunned. But then when I got back to the apartment, I saw that the rate had gone down.

TJ

Skyler
12-08-04, 04:39
I'll be making my first trip to Rio fairly soon. Does anyone have information on massages, within easy access to Copacabana. I need a way to recover from the long flights from the West Coast?

B J Lover
12-08-04, 17:03
I think the termas actually have regular massages available from non-working girls. Try Luomos.

Bubba Boy
12-08-04, 18:11
Help and Terraco Atlantico are currently exchanging at 2.8 while citibank ATM is 2.71. (as of last night)

There are normal massages at most big termas, the quality varies alot though, mostly they are average. Loumo has the occasional good massagista, she only works a couple fo nights though. about R$70. The massages on the beach are a waste of time.

If anyone knows where to get a good normal massage, please post.

Tomb
12-08-04, 19:24
Skyler:

Just about any beauty parlour (salao de beleza) in Copacabana has a girl who will do massages. But as BJ Lover pointed out, the massagists at "L" are fantastic (they have steam rooms, etc also.. after all, "termas" means "spa" in portuguese).

Tom B.

Robert Palli
12-08-04, 20:01
I am the guy who got sent back from Rio and will be going again in January. I am just too horny. I have two choices. Either Luxor Regente or Royal Palace.

You guys know which one is more girl-friendly and also if Luxor regente charges a fee per girl, or if you have to pay double room or something like that. Let me know soon.

Robert Palli

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Thunderthrust
12-08-04, 20:32
Skyler,

L' uomu have a professional masseuse there and she is excellent. I think she charges about 50 reals for either a 30 or 40 min massage. There will sometimes be a queue for her though so if you can go off peak time, ie not long after opening, then do so.

I also had a massage from a masseuse at Solarium which is about 15 mins in a taxi from Copa, but is worth the journey.

Be careful if you re asking for a massage at 4x4 because I think its a bloke who does them there and I personally wouldnt be too confortable with that. Some of the garotas will however massage as part of their service package. At 4x4 I would recommend Katalina who is a blonde european looking chick - fantastic massage, and if shagging was an olympic sport then she would be amongst the medals every time.

Have a good one

Robert Palli
12-08-04, 21:05
IF I call like Karlamodels and get two models to my room in Luxor Regente. Will they allow it? Will I be charged 50 reals per girl or none at all. Let me know? Can I do this during the day like before 3 pm. I need to know. Sooo horny.

Horny Robert Palli

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Papi Muy Rico
12-09-04, 13:02
Last night I was in Help and ask about the exchange rate and they replied R2.90 for US$ 1!!! You can´t beat that. They will exchange $100 only

I am still looking for anyone who wants to hook up for fun. I will be in Rio until Sunday Dec 12.

By the way, there were a lot of babes at Help last night. The ratio girl/men was very good. I was SO tired I had to pass... not tonight though ...

B J Lover
12-09-04, 16:29
Robert, the question is not will Karlamodels send you two escorts. That is obviously yes. You need to ask the hotel about their guest policy. Sounds like you are there already, if not send them an email or call. Also, search the hotel section of this thread.

Robert Palli
12-10-04, 01:29
Guys wanna join me monger for real this time. Haha

Will be in rio on Jan 7-jan 14. Staying in the ipanmea inn. Should be girlfriendly and a lot of fun.

Let me know msg me email me reply anything.

Robert

Royalflush
12-10-04, 01:46
First, I think there should be a Termas thread. I can't start one, though. I finally took a girl in Solarium (after 3 dry runs) and have to say that when you go 40 minutes and don't cum then it's not that great. The reason for not picking anyone the other times ranged from bad selection to bad timing, as you need to know the peculiarities of their hours and can be surprised by early closing time.

This therma seems to play to the fantasy of fucking a volleyball player. Most of the women are quite tall, probably 5' 9" to over 6" in heels. There were others of shorter stature, but you really notice the difference of size in this club. High number, also, of lighter-skinned and blonde women. You don't see a lot of skinny girls, instead there are more fuller-figured, typical Brazilian types--not fat, but solid. I chose someone from Porto Allegre, who had reddish hair, soft, natural, c-cups, and a fairly nice body overall. She thought she was fat (not a great conversation starter under any circumstances). She tried somewhat, but a covered bj just doesen't do it for me. Once she started with that, I shut down mentally a little. To her credit, she spent the whole time working it like a pro. Would not do anal--said I was crazy. WTF, how can you be crazy asking about that in Rio? Anyway low expectations = not a total loss.

I would say that this place rates a c or c- compared to other clubs in Rio. The other day, 4X4 was amazing. If you go there these days, go early before the after work crowd shows up. Girls were hot! High percentage of extremely inspiring women. I found one that I think would have let me go without a condom, if I didn't remain careful. She had a very pretty face, morena, slim, a little bit on the shy side, which I like. Incredible in bed!!! She wouldn't stop kissing, not for a minute. Helped me remenber what I liked about these girls in the first place.

Lover Boy #2
12-10-04, 07:24
If someone is down there now...and you have a free afternoon....could you check out this place; Spaco 45, Rua da Assembleia 45, 12th andar, Centro. I heard it was good. If it sucks...just leave and go to 4X4 or Termas 65. This might be a new/good place to add to the list.

Brazil Specialist
12-10-04, 11:52
Hello,

I know exchange rates are posted on the internet but can anyone tell me what the exchange rate is when using the ATM machines?

Also, when I need to change cash $USD to $Reals, which "Cambio" place will give me the best rate?

This will help me decide how much cash to bring and how much to take out of the ATM.

I have come to know that what is printed in the news paper is not what the "Cambios" and the ATM machines give you usually.

I also know that HELP will exchange my cash $100 a night at an above average exchange rate, but only when they do not have cash flow problems. I have actually been turned down by the cashier at HELP because too many people changed their money that night.

pop till you drop,
hojoThere are several exchange rates. Offical commercial rate, used for ATM. Tourist and black market rates, used by cambios. Then there is the spread, between buying and selling price of dollars.

This weeks seems the cash rate is better. US$ 2.90 to sell dollar cash, 3.00 to buy dollars (not what you are interested in). Banks were more in the range of 2.74 or so. This is what I remember having read in the newspaper.

If you read only one exchange rate, it is the official rate.

The last few years, atm rate was a bit better then cash. It seems to revert now. But the difference is small, I think it still does not warrant carrying huge amounts of cash, endangering yourself and others due to robbery risk.

Brazil Specialist
12-10-04, 11:53
If someone is down there now...and you have a free afternoon....could you check out this place; Spaco 45, Rua da Assembleia 45, 12th andar, Centro. I heard it was good. If it sucks...just leave and go to 4X4 or Termas 65. This might be a new/good place to add to the list.Tell more about the place. Is it a cheap massage parlor? What is the price? Where did you hear about it?? what are the opening hours?

Brazil Specialist
12-10-04, 11:57
IF I call like Karlamodels and get two models to my room in Luxor Regente. Will they allow it? Will I be charged 50 reals per girl or none at all. Let me know? Can I do this during the day like before 3 pm. I need to know. Sooo horny.

Horny Robert PalliI think Luxor Regente does not charge for visitors, if you have a double room.

Unfortunately, ALL hotels I know of allow only one visitor. It sucks. One more reason to settle for an apartment

Only way around is if a friend also has a room in the hotel. Then each one asks for a girl, and then he sends his girl over to you.

Karlamodels is a good choice. Below the line, the lower half of the site, is another agency, scort show.

If you don't mind the money and want the best, ask both agencies to send their "book". You pay a taxi fee and see the photos of the girls with the face.

The also have a few newbies that just started and don't have photos yet. Often some diamonds. But hard to get the description of these girls unless you speak excellent portuguese

Mack Dad
12-11-04, 01:31
I was walking through central I got a flyer of As Gustosas. It was on ovidor and decided to go to the Apt 901 on the ninth floor. I thought the 10 reias was the entrance fee. Hell that got you 15 mins of head. 5 girls working and there was only one that was good looking. But for that price I told her I wanted 30 mins for 20 reias. I tell you them deals get better and better in Rio.

I will say it to all in this forum learn portuguese you will be amazed how you can get around.

Truant
12-11-04, 01:55
Gentleman,

Let me bring to everyones attention a most underrated therma that provides good, if not great, value for the money. On a recent Tuesday evening at eight o'clock more or less, there were a good 25 girls here with about 15 of them definitely doable. Here is there price structure: (including the girl and ROOM) 35 minutes---R$77 !! 45 minutes---R$97 !! 1 hour---R$107 !! This place is located 2 blocks from 4X4 so you can take the R$2 subway there (Uruguaiana? sp.) and back. Drinks are very reasonable, even for the girl--I had a peach juice, a Smirnoff Icee and a beer for the girl for a total of R$19 !! My total bill for the night was the R$19+R$77 (35 min. option) = R$96 !! (more or less $35US) . This has got to be one of the best values in Rio at a Therma. Even better than the R$140 at 4X4 if you get the girl before 5pm. Good quality girls with pole dancers in the bar . The room I had was smallish but it did have a shower. The sheets were clean, the towels were clean, everything was more or less average quality. I did not have a chance to check out the sauna or steam room. As I was leaving about 9:30 pm, a whole new crop of girls had arrived and the place was very active. Compare this to the now outrageous R$30 after midnight entrance to Help now (not including ANY drinks) and it is well worth exploring. Address: 502 R. do Alfandega near the corner of Av. Rio Branco. (Big main thoroughfare in Centro). The crowd seemed to be all locals. AND-- no robe required!! Look for the Blue neon above the door. About a 7 min walk to the metro. Walk east toward the docks. (Metro from Copacabana took about 12 minutes one way.) Opens 4 pm. Enjoy!

Bubba Boy
12-11-04, 02:56
I dropped by this place tonight, I have been there a few times but never stayed for sexo, mainly because I was on my way to meet other people at 4x4. Anyway, again on my way to 4x4 I stopped in about 4pm. I look around and think, there is at least 4 doable girls here, then this gorgeous 19 year old with the tiniest butt and smoothest skin I have laid my eyes on walks by. I get another glance at her from the front and she has massive cans, so big the are sticking out the side of her bikini. I am of course thinking they are fake but as it turns out they are very real. Call my buddy to say 4x4 is going to have to be delayed tonight and he should get his ass over here. Ended up staying for about 4 hours, I do Ms big Cans and then another forgetable girl, my amigo does a duplo with Ms Big Cans (name:lorena) and a single.

The cost: 35min=R77 for room & girl, 45min=R97. Entrada R10, which is waived if you take a girl. This is half the cost of all the big termas and the quality on this particular night was better, can't guarantee it is always like this but for R10 entrance (which inlcudes 2 locals drinks) you can't go wrong. Doesn't get busy until 4pm+. Rooms are as nice as your usual terma and include showers which loumo and monte carlo don't. Total cost for me for 2x girls, drinks etc R230. You pay for the girls as you go and the drinks when you leave, you wear street clothes, no robes.

Terma 502, cnr Rio Branco & Rua Da Alfandega, Centro. 1 street over from Rua Buenos Aires which is what 4x4 is on.

Lover Boy, give more details on this place and I will check it out. The address is a normal office building, which will have a security guard/porto that will ask what your business is before letting you in the lift.

Junior
12-11-04, 07:31
Just returned from another terma run in Rio. I am glad to report that the talent is even better than my last visit in january.

I spend 1,5 week in Rio visiting Centaurus, Luomo and Monte Carlo on a daily basis.

Centaurus remains my favorite place eventhough I know it gets a bad rap from some clients ( and girls too ) whom dislike the management. The entrance price has increased to R310 for entrance and a 40 minute program.

The girls were plentiful and very appealing. On any given night there were a good number of very doable ladies. I discovered that I had to turn down women I would normally kill to do at home. The only real weakness in terms of ladies is the lack of a couple of beautiful black ladies, but they can be found at other places.

The girls are very good salespeople and will suggest upgrades to more time and more girls all the time. Both upgrades are expensive, yet thoroughly enjoyable. I discovered that it is possible to take two girls for 40 minutes to a small room for only an additional R150, instead of paying for their special program with two girls for one hour in a socalled "special" room.

Favorites on this trip were Barbara and Stephanie, who are both very good performers and highly recommended. Honorable mentions goes to Elena and Taish (sp?). I had several others too, but they were only average performers.


Luomo is my second home away from home in Rio. Prices have also increased slightly here. The choice of ladies were also better than on my last visit. As usual the atmosphere is more relaxed than at Centaurus.

Favorites on this trip included Shayla who just got back from taking 6 months of from work. Ingrid who has the best butt I have ever seen. I also did a double with two blond sisters which was quite nice, unfortunately their names escapes me. One of the blondes loves the ladies and her regular girlfriend who also works at luomo, so if you like to watch and enjoy a couple of lesbians this is your pick.


Monte Carlo has never been quite as appealing to me as neither Centaurus or luomo. It is slightly cheaper however. Still there were several doable girls and threesomes are not too expensive.

I did pick a love young blonde and her friend for an hour of fun. No disapointments here. Turns out the blond is the sister of the two blonds I did at luomo - small world and a very lovely family tradition. Just imagine hooking up with one of the girls and doing family reunions with the others.


ENJOY RIO.

Robert Palli
12-11-04, 08:49
O, Ii want to know who is the best terma or escort girl in Rio de Janeiro. By this I mean 3 categories:

1.) Best Anal constriction
2.) Cleanliness
3.) Ass licking
4.) Really ANAL *****
5.) Perverted anal maniac

I know this is explicit. but i need to know. I want the best.

Msg me or reply.

I want to know name, where to find her if terma or escort and what days she works.

If help girl, what's her name and appearance.

God RJ is great.

Lover Boy #2
12-11-04, 09:44
Brazil Spec.,

It's a downtown regular priced terma. I believe they have an entry of about R 35. They just opened a couple of months ago. It is not a cheap massage parlor according to a local business guy who rec. the place. Supposedly they have some very attractive women there (according to this guy), a good atmosphere and a safe environment. However, I trust the opinion of the people on this forum, much more than the guy who recommended the place, as he is an unknown as far as experience in this game. The guys on this board are much more dedicated than the average man on the street, so I thought an opinion from someone who contributes here was worth something. If it's a good place, we have one more place to add to the "to do list". If it sucks, we just forget about it. If no one else has the time, I'll check it out in a few months myself.

Member #2329
12-12-04, 01:12
Great posts on 502.

I have never been there but I will certainly try to check it out sometime this week and post on my experiences.

R$107 for an hour is an unbeatable price. This is why it is time for guys to start leaving Copacabana and heading north to Centro. Essentially, if you didn't have any drinks, you could bang 3 girls for an hour each and pay pretty much the same price as 40 minutes at Centaurus. They are charging R$310 now and I think that maybe after visiting 502, Centaurus will have lost a customer.

Bob

Arny01
12-12-04, 04:41
Try Lydia at Club 65, I lost my virginity to her when I was screwing her from behind and she suggested some anal mmmmmmm!


O, Ii want to know who is the best terma or escort girl in Rio de Janeiro. By this I mean 3 categories:

1.) Best Anal constriction
2.) Cleanliness
3.) Ass licking
4.) Really ANAL *****
5.) Perverted anal maniac

I know this is explicit. but i need to know. I want the best.

Msg me or reply.

I want to know name, where to find her if terma or escort and what days she works.

If help girl, what's her name and appearance.

God RJ is great.

Robert Palli
12-12-04, 11:27
I am traveling from the USA to Brazil and bringing my laptop. Do I need a power converter, transformer, or plug adaptor? I think they are all the same in the north america but am not sure and could not find out on a yahoo search. Please reply or msg me. Thanks guys.

I appreciate ur help.

Robert

Scotch
12-12-04, 18:46
Originally Posted by Robert Palli
O, Ii want to know who is the best terma or escort girl in Rio de Janeiro. By this I mean 3 categories:

1.) Best Anal constriction
2.) Cleanliness
3.) Ass licking
4.) Really ANAL *****
5.) Perverted anal maniac

I know this is explicit. but i need to know. I want the best.

Msg me or reply.

I want to know name, where to find her if terma or escort and what days she works.

If help girl, what's her name and appearance.

God RJ is great.

Lohani meet all the above eventhough anal is not my thing she made me do it lol. I met Oct 2004 at Monte Carlo but was told by fellow member Brava she use to work at Centarus and 4x4. These girls are not stable so your best bet is to just ask someone it the club when you get there.

Here a pic of Lohani at MC attach.

Scotch
12-12-04, 18:50
Here the pic.

Sal Dali
12-13-04, 06:31
I am traveling from the USA to Brazil and bringing my laptop. Do I need a power converter, transformer, or plug adaptor? I think they are all the same in the north america but am not sure and could not find out on a yahoo search. Please reply or msg me. Thanks guys.

I appreciate ur help.

RobertRobert,

You'll be fine in Rio. However, if you're going to some of the other places, you'll need adaptors. AND . .. NO 3 prong plugs.

S

Lover Boy #2
12-13-04, 07:53
Bubba Boy,

Just tell him you are going to "Spaco 45 on the 12th floor". I don't think there should be a problem. I hate to give this "untested" place so much press. A guy mentioned it to me on my last trip and I didn't have time to check it out. If it sucks, or you get that bad *****fu.ker feeling, just leave.

Bubba Boy
12-13-04, 09:14
No posts on this place in years and now 2 posts right after each other what are the chances? And by regular members whose posts don't appear until a couple days later?

One more point to add, zero English is spoken here by the girls, bartender, receptionist. Just remember when you enter, the receptionist will give you a piece of paper which is like a Terma locker key, everything gets added to it. All prices are posted next to her on the wall and you pay for the girls as you do them (you pay the receptionist).

El Austriaco
12-13-04, 21:48
I've been to 502, too, a few times - once on a Friday evening after 8 PM, and the place was absolutely rocking. At least fifty girls there that night. As reported, entrance is 10 Reais, which counts against any drinks you may have - beers were 4 Reais back in October, if I remember correctly. Doesn't have the consistently high overall quality of the girls working, say, at Monte Carlo, but like everywhere else in Rio, some stunners are be found. Went to MC my last week in Rio, and compared with the rates available in Centro, found it to be a gringo ripoff place.

Bubba Boy
12-14-04, 01:57
Lover Boy,

I think this place may have come and went. There is no signage in the foyeur and when we got out of the lift on the 12th floor, nothing, no signs, no noise, no sign of life. We were there about 6.30pm Monday night. Like you said it is about 3 minutes walk to 4x4 so not a big detour, worth the time to explore it.

Anyway headed over to 502, my big titted girl was not there and the place was alot quieter than Friday. We left because there was only 1 hot girl worth doing, although a couple more that were worth consideration. Ended up at 4x4.

Robert Palli
12-14-04, 06:16
Which is better for price and quality of girls? It seems like not many anal completa girls in sao paolo. Is that true? Also, it seems like it is double or triple the price of rio for the same , maybe a little better quality. am i right in this or totally wrong. reply and let me know.

Robert

Robert Palli
12-14-04, 07:32
Thus i ask:

is it possible to get a Help girl to do anal as much as you want with kissing, blowjob uncovered, etc unlimited nighter for 150 reals or at most 200 for a good looking 6-9.

Is this possible let me know. As i am not sure to visit help or not. I need anal.

Roberto

Lover Boy #2
12-14-04, 09:12
Mr. Palli,

I can second the recomendation of Scotch. You cannot go wrong with his pick. I know who he is talking about and she would be a great choice for you, based on your requirements.

Hojo
12-15-04, 00:29
Thus i ask:

is it possible to get a Help girl to do anal as much as you want with kissing, blowjob uncovered, etc unlimited nighter for 150 reals or at most 200 for a good looking 6-9.

Is this possible let me know. As i am not sure to visit help or not. I need anal.

Roberto

Hello Robert,
I got it for $150R/night November of 2003 from Help. She was a solid 8 in my books. Hopefully I'll get it again. I stayed with the girl 5 days. Usually I don't stay that long but that week a Navy ship pulled into port and I decided it would be in my best interest to keep her for that week.

pop till you drop,
hojo

Robert Palli
12-17-04, 09:12
Does anyone know the exchange rate in the airport for the us dollars in reals? Is it dropping. Let me know. reply to this and the other question I asked. One response come on guys I depend on you.

CaptainNemo
12-17-04, 17:50
Does anyone know the exchange rate in the airport for the us dollars in reals? Is it dropping. Let me know. reply to this and the other question I asked. One response come on guys I depend on you.

Exchange rate is the worst at any airport. If you want to save a few dollars, you can get the money from Airport ATM

When you exit the custom, you will be flooded by the taxi offers. Ignore them. Make a right turn. Find the elevator or escalator. Go to the top floor of building. I forgot it is 3rd or 4th floor. If I remember correctly, one side of you is a big restaurant. You go to the opposite direction. You will pass a few gift shops. Then you will see the bank on your right. You will find the ATM there. Your US ATM card should work with ATMs.

Sunset Strip
12-17-04, 21:15
Robert Palli,

You asked whether the exchange rate at the airport was dropping? All places generally base "their" exhange rate on the official exchange rate. The dollar gets "stronger" or "weaker" every second. The official exhange rate fluctuates all day long. At the end of the day they post an exchange rate as a guide for you to decide what to do with your money. So if you notice the official exhange rate getting lower each day then be assured that the banks and exchange places in the airport are lowering their rates accordingly. Moreover, as Nemo said the places in the airport give you lower rates than the official exchange rate because they need to make a profit!

So I would suggest you study the official exhange rate online via or on Bloomberg Financial TV each morning and stick to ATMS in Brazil. ATMs give the official exchange rate at the moment. Most cable TVs in Brazil carry Bloomberg TV all day. What I do is check the current rate and decide whether to take out more money or not.

Stay away from banks and cambios (is this Portugueuse or Spanish?). They need to make a profit and will by taking extra from YOU! Plus you get even poorer rates in most airports anyway, even in the US. I remember when the exchange rate was 3.5, but in Houston's Bush Airport they were giving us something like 2.8. I swear I saw this!

TJ

Lover Boy #2
12-20-04, 06:36
Thanks Bubba Boy,

We can cross that one off the list!

Brazil Specialist
12-21-04, 03:01
Thus i ask:

is it possible to get a Help girl to do anal as much as you want with kissing, blowjob uncovered, etc unlimited nighter for 150 reals or at most 200 for a good looking 6-9.

Is this possible let me know. As i am not sure to visit help or not. I need anal.

RobertoAnal is R$ 100 plus R$ 40 for taxi at www.karlamodels.com.br weekdays except hollidays. Sorry, some portuguese knowledge and a phone are a must.

California Guy
12-21-04, 10:25
Does anyone know if these girls are real and if there based in Rio? I just checked the site and they look amazing so I have to question if it is real? Also does anyone know what their rates are? I didn't see anything about costs.

Cali Monger
12-21-04, 16:14
Is 502 the only one where there is no robe required? Do the robes at most termas have any pockets at all? I'm just concerned about hitting a terma on my 1st day in town and having someone dip into my locker and going through my pockets while i'm having fun.

JoshJosh69
12-21-04, 17:08
The majority of robe termas have pockets in the robes and you can obviously keep things in them. I wouldn't be worried about money in the lockers as that would be bad business if they were broken into.

Junior
12-21-04, 17:42
Is 502 the only one where there is no robe required? Do the robes at most termas have any pockets at all? I'm just concerned about hitting a terma on my 1st day in town and having someone dip into my locker and going through my pockets while i'm having fun.

I have been to most of the termas on numerous occasions and all have robes with pockets. I have never had anything stolen from my locker.

Lover Boy #2
12-21-04, 18:16
Over 100 visits......all robe style......never any money or property lost. Best tale is in Germany however, where I leave my wallet with about 300Euros in it, including credit cards and personal items. I get home and realize that I left the wallet on a chair in the locker room. I figure it is lost for sure. I return to the club, explain what has happened at the front desk and I am presented with my wallet....including the cash and all the property!! Probably a bit unusual, but what great luck!!

Gladiator
12-21-04, 22:48
In 502 no robes are required but remember that you can’t compare 502 with the other termas that are usually mentioned here: 502 is a stinky shithole where you can find mostly low quality girls, the bottom of the barrel of the Brazilian pro population. It is cheap, I agree, but that is a clear example of ‘you get what you pay for’.

It is also managed and staffed by cheap bastards, so keep your valuables with you at all times, don’t ever leave anything (valuable or not) at reception as they’ll keep it for themselves and will tell you that ‘it got lost’.

Also, don’t forget to check your bill carefully when you ask for drinks and when you finally pay, otherwise they’ll add extra drinks that you didn’t ask for and will also shortchange you if you give them a chance.

The 502 shithole is best avoided but if you still decide to go, take the proper precautions.

Cali Monger
12-22-04, 02:54
Thanks for the info. Does anyone know if the termas and escorts will be running on Dec. 25th and 26th? Or any decent restaurants that will be open those days?

Khunjbl
12-22-04, 09:11
Gladiator,

502 is not the bottom of the barrel.. there is a lot worse !!!! It has some diamonds in the rough . I never had any problems there with bill padding. It is not as nice as 65 or 4x4, but good for the price.

Brazil Specialist
12-22-04, 09:29
After reading some good stuff on 502 and after hearing a gringo friend of mine giving rave reports about finding lots of fresh young girls at 502, I decided to check it out. Will try to go there today.

I still will have to find out the address.

I usually don't go to these places. I suppose they are just like the R$ 200 termas, just lower quality girls.

Unlike the R$ 10 to R$ 30 brothels (check my report on these). These actually advertise for girls in the newspapers and have fresh young girls (in the midst of lots of old dogs, of course) that later in their carreer might end up at termas.

Mack Dad
12-22-04, 11:38
Who will be there this weekend? I get there on the 24th and be there for a couple of days.

Bubba Boy
12-22-04, 16:08
I disagree that the girls are any lower quality than the main termas. In fact I found the talent better than 4x4 and Monte Carlo at the moment. Never had a problem with padding the bill, can't see how they can take anything from you because it is in your pocket all the time.

B Billy
12-22-04, 21:13
Hey just wanted to let you all know Im in Rio and wouldnt mind Meeting up with some members to see some of the spots. Im into the non-pro scene too. let me know. Merry Xmas! [Email Address deleted by Admin]

Billy

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Jon Jones
12-23-04, 02:21
Gladiator,

502 is not the bottom of the barrel.. there is a lot worse !!!! It has some diamonds in the rough . I never had any problems there with bill padding. It is not as nice as 65 or 4x4, but good for the price.

I agree. 502 might not be your best option but it's not the worst. I've had more good experiences than disappointing.

El Austriaco
12-23-04, 04:18
502 is a stinky shithole where you can find mostly low quality girls, the bottom of the barrel of the Brazilian pro population.502 isn't even close to the bottom of the Brazilian pro population, and it's not close to the cheapest rates, either. Of course, beauty (or attractiveness, or sexual appeal, i.e. quality) is in the eye of the beholder, as always, and whether you find the price/value ratio reasonable, too. But there's no denying that there are both cheaper and more expensive options available in Rio. A lot cheaper and a lot more expensive.

Regarding overcharging at 502: I don't know, I've been there about five times, and never had any problem whatsoever. 502 uses the card system: once you enter, you pay your 10 Reais, and you receive a card where drinks are checked off. You get drinks yourself at the bars. No money changes hand until you leave - upon exit, they add up your tab, deduct your 10 Reais admission fee from your drink total, and you pay. Basically, the only way you can possibly get billed for extra drinks is when you get your drink, hand the barman the card, and he either checks off several drinks at once or marks other (higher-priced) drinks. Unless you get totally smashed in there, I can't really see where there's a big chance of getting overcharged if you only have to quickly check your card every time you get a drink. Or check your change once you check out.

Come to think of it, at times, I have insisted that they do EXACTLY that at places like Meia Pataca or Veranda sobre as Ondas in Copacabana. IMHO, if you're not careful, you're way more likely to get overcharged there unless you watch out. And I am not even mentioning places that are notorious for hidden charges, like some of the Copa strip clubs. I just say Frank's, Doma, Barbarella's. Based on my personal experience, to be avoided - all of them.

Also, unlike other Termas (like Monte Carlo), 502 posts prices right next to the reception. Everything upfront, everything out in the open, everything clear.

Another good thing I'll say about 502: in my experience, the girls are not pushy whatsoever. No pushing for programas, no constant pestering for drinks.

Regarding the quality of the girls: on average, I would say, the girls at 502 are nothing worse than the average girl you find in Balcony, Meia Pataca, or Help. And in all of these places, you can find an occasional stunner, just like in all those places, you can definitely find dogs. True, the consistency of quality is higher at the high-end places, just like the odds of finding a true gem, but so is the price - which is a lot higher. Ultimately, I guess everyone simply has to decide whether the quality/attitude/overall experience is so drastically better that it justifies paying, say, 300-320 Reais at Monte Carlo (50 entrance, 180 girl for one hour, 50-70 room/suite, 20 drinks) as opposed to roughly 110-120 Reais at a place like 502 (+/- 100 girl for one hour, 10-20 for drinks). That's a big difference in pricing for me... and a huge one for most Brazilians, you bet. And that's why you have tons of Brazilians in 502, and very few at MC.

El Austriaco

Hojo
12-23-04, 04:55
Anyone know the current cost of Viagra at the Rio pharmacies? They usually sell it 4 pills per package.

7, 8, 9 times in a day no problem. 10, 11, 12 times and I'm gonna need some help, especially with a condem.

pop till you drop,
hojo

Nashboy
12-23-04, 16:27
Anyone know the current cost of Viagra at the Rio pharmacies? They usually sell it 4 pills per package.

7, 8, 9 times in a day no problem. 10, 11, 12 times and I'm gonna need some help, especially with a condem.

pop till you drop,
hojoHojo,

I don't know if you're already in Rio or not, but if not and you have at least a couple of weeks before you go, I would highly recommend RX-MEX.NET. I've bought both their generic Viagra and generic Cialis (no script needed) and both worked great, however I like the Cialis better as it lasts longer in your system (up to 36 hours). They also have generic Levitra as well, though I've never used it. Depending on the quantity you buy, costs around $3 per pill or so (about 75 - 80% off the brand name). I've been a customer for over a year and never had any problems.

Bubba Boy
12-23-04, 16:44
100mg x4=R$143
50mg x4=R$90

Much better if you buy the 100mg and cut it into pieces. I usually find as little as 1/8 of a tablet is good enough for a few hours.

To ask in Portuguese:

Voce tem Viagra? Cem miligrama por favor.

Steven
12-24-04, 03:37
Went to the 502 and found it just as described. An honest place, with mostly homely women. Found a 6 and took her, but her attitude was lacking. Cost...87R, and outta there.

Went to 4x4 and it was very nice, although when I did a double I was a bit surprized that they charged me twice for the girls and twice for the room. I will do them sequentially from now on, since it makes no difference pricewise. 170R for each girl and 1 hour suite = 340R. They worked real well together, however.

Tried Karlasmodels and got a nice enough and pretty enough girl. She stayed the full 2 hours (very professional work ethic). The ones I really wanted werent available. Cost 100 for girl and 45 (??!!) for RT taxi = 145R

Of course, you cant beat Luomo Terma. Had a great time. The Brazilian terma girls want to please you so bad. They try so hard, its incredible. 224R for girl and lots of drinks.

Am now going to check the action in front of Help.

Brazil Specialist
12-24-04, 10:09
Tried Karlasmodels and got a nice enough and pretty enough girl. She stayed the full 2 hours (very professional work ethic). The ones I really wanted werent available. Cost 100 for girl and 45 (??!!) for RT taxi = 145RTaxi for 45 seems a bit hefty. But 35 is normal (17 each way). Probably had a traffic jam. Also in December all taxis go on bandeira 2 all day long, thus increasing the fare.

Scortshow is karlamodels sister agency. Their taxi is a bit cheaper, but not much. Their photos are on the karlamodels website, below the line in the middle, and "Flamengo" is written near the photos.

You can get 2 girls for the same taxi money. But you cannot get 2 girls into your hotel, only into an apartment.

Cheapest deal is a festinha. You and several friends share several girls. You pay only once. It needs a few skills to set it up. If you have more girls then guys, then even karlamodels usually does not charge you any extra fee. With other agencies, it is already enough if you have equal numbers of girls and guys.

Sal Dali
12-24-04, 13:55
Alcohol May Boost HIV Risk from Oral Sex

Thu Dec 23, 1:23 PM ET Health - Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Lab experiments show that cells that line the mouth become more susceptible to infection with HIV (news - web sites) when they're exposed to alcohol.

The finding suggests that drinking alcohol may facilitate HIV infection by oral sex, say Dr. Jun-ying Zheng of the UCLA Dental Institute and colleagues.

While alcohol consumption has been linked to HIV infection, the researchers note, most studies have focused on its effect on risky sexual behavior rather than any direct effect on the mechanism of infection.

To investigate, they exposed cells from the lining or epithelium of the mouth obtained from HIV-negative individuals to various concentrations of alcohol, and then to a strain of HIV modified with green fluorescent protein in order to make the detection of infection easier.

Oral epithelial cells exposed to 4% ethanol for 10 minutes showed three- to six-fold greater susceptibility to infection with HIV strain, Zheng's team reports in the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes.

They note that the ethanol concentrations they tested are similar to the alcohol content of beer, "the most widely consumed alcoholic beverage of Americans."

SOURCE: Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes, December 1, 2004.

Sal Dali
12-24-04, 14:00
Anyone know the current cost of Viagra at the Rio pharmacies? They usually sell it 4 pills per package.

7, 8, 9 times in a day no problem. 10, 11, 12 times and I'm gonna need some help, especially with a condem.

pop till you drop,
hojoWell, with this kind of frequency in mind, you're using the wrong drug. Considier Cialis. Lower SE profile, up to 72 hours of effect, no blue/green vision effects, and you can take it with whatever meal you'd like.

Just my 2 cents.

SD

Brazil Specialist
12-24-04, 15:05
Tried Karlasmodels and got a nice enough and pretty enough girl. She stayed the full 2 hours (very professional work ethic). The ones I really wanted werent available. Cost 100 for girl and 45 (??!!) for RT taxi = 145Roh, if you want the best girls, get a reservation a few hours in advance

Or even better, call and ask when she is available. If now, great. If not, make the appointment at the time they indicate.

The best girls are fairly busy, booked in advance by other people.

It is worth the hassle because the most sought-after girls usually are really good!!

Amerioca
12-28-04, 04:11
Making my rounds the past few months. Here we go! Aeroporto had a few lookers, and oldies. Top girl was 6. Did not pull. Saw fellow monger Jason.

Solarium was cool. Pulled one that was a 7. Great attitude. Saw another for next time. Again, saw fellow monger Jason.

MCs talent has dropped off since Mr. Maricio left a few months ago. There were only a few girls that I knew. The new girls were in the 5/6s. Luana, everyone knows her, stated she may leave for another house. Those who knew Gabi from last year, got married, and had a baby recently.

Luomos is one of my favorites. There are three or four solid 7's in the house. I enjoy the tv/relax lounge especially on Saturdays when they have food. Attended their Xmas party the other day. Awesome. Women there have great attitudes.

4X4 is fast becoming one of my favorites. The selection of girls is second to none in Cidade de Deus~! Pricing is very reasonable as well. My favorite is Bom Bom, a mulatta. Many 6/7/8. House has a bad reputation because of the bandido clientel. Try to get there around 4pm as it is when the second shift begins, and not crowded.

Casa de programa on Praia de Itaipuacu, Niteroi. House is located on Rua 1. When facing the beach, go right. It is the largest house on the beach. Three stories. Rinky dink operation with seconds from Copacabana working there. I was there last month with a Brasilian associate when the Policia Militar walked in. They quickly extracted money from the lady owner and left. Was not impressed as business should be taken care not in front of the clients. Finished drinks left. Talent was 4/5. Didn't bother to ask price. Most of the girls appreciated the company and drinks, which were reasonable.

Ira Glub
12-29-04, 21:24
I will be visiting Rio in a few weeks. Can anyone recommend high class escort agencies in Rio? I have seen the agencies at www.hotside.com, but I was wandering if there are any other ones in the top bracket.

Rio Bob
12-30-04, 03:29
I will be visiting Rio in a few weeks. Can anyone recommend high class escort agencies in Rio? I have seen the agencies at www.hotside.com, but I was wandering if there are any other ones in the top bracket.

Ira check out www.viprj.com.br they have higher end escorts especially their VIP selection. Of course the cost will be higher end also as you can imagine but they boast that they are real models working in real model jobs looking to supplement their income. I have met several of these girls and they have all been real nice outstanding nice girls. I read about some other escort services and the guys say that the service was good and she was pretty enough. These girls are more than pretty enough but you won't get them for 100 reais like Karla escort for example, you will have to cough up the dough for these garotas. Im not trying to put Karla escort service down in any way as it represents an excellent value but VIPRJ just provides a different level. You asked and this is just my opinion. Also if you like the big blond type from the south of Brasil check out this one: WWW.BIARIOSP.COM

Nashboy
12-30-04, 03:51
Ira check out www.viprj.com.br they have higher end escorts especially their VIP selection. Of course the cost will be higher end also as you can imagine but they boast that they are real models ]RIo Bob,

Just curious if you could enlighten us as to the general ballpark figure these girls go for in your experience? Also, will they make a date on the side after they've seen you once (outside the service)? If so, what kind of disount can one expect off the agency price.

Thanks for all the great info!

Robert Palli
12-30-04, 06:29
Did you actually try that girl? Her hooters are large on her site but she looks like she's on the older side. Is she good? Could u pm me or reply telling me about her?

Thanks man.

Robert palli

Bambino
12-30-04, 07:36
RioBob,

That second site has 200R for a couple hours. Is this what you mean, or should one expect something like 300R and up ( like I have heard about some places) ?

Pyjama
12-30-04, 12:23
Just curious, but how much would I have to expect to pay for one of these gorgeous girls? Will the do the usual 1-2h service?

Rio Bob
12-30-04, 15:25
The first question about the big blond, she is 22, lives in Ipanema, price on website.

VipRJ each girl depending on her level commands a different price so when you arrive you need to call and ask what the price is for the girl you like. One girl I was with told me that the day before she was with an international soccer star and she wouldn't tell me his name. Another told me that for Carnaval week one man paid $5000 US for her company.

The girls will meet you on the side if they want too. The discount depends I guess on your negotiating skills but generally the agency gets half.

A general ball park figure for a real gem might be in the 500 reais for 2 hours range on the high side and 300 on the low side depending on your pick, generally the girls on the front page go for more.

Take a look at the ruiva section, I recommend it, one of the girls came for 2 hours ended up spending all night with me and no extra plus I still talk to her now and then and hook up too .

Rio Bob
12-30-04, 20:28
RioBob,

That second site has 200R for a couple hours. Is this what you mean, or should one expect something like 300R and up ( like I have heard about some places) ?

The second site I wouldn't say is not a high end escort so if she quotes 200 reais then that is what she is asking for but I think she is negotiable as she is an independent. I just posted her their as some guys may like that type.

Ira Glub
12-30-04, 21:07
Thanks for your suggestion. I previously visited the www.viprj.com.br site but was unsure about the authenticity of the photos. I don't know if you are familiar with the www.gpbr.net and gpguia.net forums, but the general consensus in those sites was that the photos in viprj were fake. I am glad to have your input though and will give the agency a try during my upcoming trip.

All the best,

Ira

Cali Monger
12-30-04, 23:56
the 1st thing i'll say is i could've have just as easily been on a bangkock/phukket trip. my condolances to all those affected.

that was the 1st time i've flown more than 6 hours. the trip is a bear, but worth it for sure. about a 17 hour trip from l.a. through houston and san paulo. got there saturday afternoon. i stayed at premiere copacobana which is a few blocks back off the beach. it's across from the metro that is 1/2 block from luomo. hotel is decent. rooms not much beter than a motel 6, but clean and decent. girl friendly front desk but some guys tried to squeeze guest fees of $r40 from me. i f'ed up and forgot to bring the phone #'s of agencies with me. had one of the hotel guys send me a girl. don't know what service she was from. her name was victoria. she looked a bit like belladonna (the porno girl) mostly cause she had that gap tooth thing going on. service was good with bbbj and covered fs. very open girl with dfk and letting me finger her and seeming to like it.

i then went out and ate at alcazar near help. it was decent but not great. i got a taxi and what started out as looking to see which termas were open turned into a 1.5 hour 'tour' of the city. i was cool with it as i like to see a new city from a car and see the streets and stores and whatever. luomo and centaurus were closed and he said help was closed (was not). he brought me to barbarellas which i remembered from reports was a rip. right away a penelope cruz look alike glued to me but she wanted $r400 for the night and $r60 'bar fine' and i almost did it based on her looks but her vibe told me it wasn't gonna be right. i bailed and went to help which was indeed open. 3-1 ratio of men to women, but i wasn't giving up easy. found veronika. she claimed she was 25, on a weeklong vacation from san paulo with her girlfriends. whatever. got her back to the room. phenominal chest and nice solid body. tattoo's on her back of paw tracks. very sensual. very oral. tons of bbbj, ball sucking and her licking my a-hole and then basic covered fs. excellent. we didn't discuss price till the end. she asked me for $r300. after hours of her rimming me and her being very wet and seemingly enjoying it as much as me, i wasn't gonna argue over $r100. i could only think of the shitty girls in l.a. that want $us100 just to show up and then another $us1-200 for 30-40 minutes of half assed mechanical service.

sunday, woke up late and went looking for american football on tv. i knew marriot had a game but was told lord jim's pub in ipanema had a few on. i went there and they had european football on (soccer to us yanks). so i went back to the marriot and watched the colts vs. chargers game. ate cheap and fast meal at burgau (sp?) which is slightly above mcdonalds but was 1/2 block from my hotel. i knew luomo was close but i didn't realize it was like 200 yards away. bell boy walked me over there to show me. 3-1 man to garota ratio in there so i decided to act fast. met anita and thought she looked more than good enough and and i didn't want to dick around with so many guys there. anita is nice and petite. super velvet soft skin. very friendly but with almost no english and i know about as much portuguese. nice time and all but after the agency girl and the help girl, i didn't like the rushed time feeling in the cabin. still, decent enthusiastic service and attitude from her. bbbj and covered fs seems the norm at this point.

one thing i'll say about termas is flip flops(sandals) can eat shit. talk about uncomfortable. and they didn't seem all that clean either. might as well be barefoot.

monday, i went to tudo facil internet cafe and looked up karlas models site from this group. i f'ed up again though because i only took the phone number and not the names of the girls i liked. i went back to my room and called them. they sent me gabriella. i'm not crazy about very dark girls but must admit that she gave 110% bbbj. she was fairly friendly but just did not turm me on that much. i have a pet peeve about womans feet at least not being nastier than mine and she had some nasty ass hoofs. i sent her off early and went around copa buying clothes for myself as the prices were more than fair for the polo type shirts i need for work. i went back and showered up and headed out to the gavea jockey club. if you are into horse racing, it's worth a trip. they start 3:30 on friday, 1 or 2 on sat and sun and 6:15 on monday. it seems a bit neglected from what it used to be. with all that stone and tile work and a fantastic view, it must have been something super special way back when. still, it's a decent spot and a good little getaway. the racing seemed legit and they had the track from san paulo on simulcast to bet on in between the live races.

i went back, took a nap and then headed out to help. the ratio was almost 1-1 and they had the monday night football game on and i started to get stupid drunk fast on some vodka. i went upstairs and decided to chill and sober up. after an hour or so, i went back down and found b#$%^&. she's a cute shorty with fair skin and some freckles and really looks more like a student than a working girl. claims to be 23 and living with her parents. gave me the whole talk about how she doesn't like to work at help but there are no jobs anywhere. she had fairly good english and was very nice and we had a fair time at the hotel for $r300. she brought up the price before we even left help and while i could've have bargained from there, i have a hard time fighting down what is already a real bargain in my eyes. she stayed about 4 hours and it was all pretty good except she will only do a covered bj and covered fs and not into dfk. she was however very receptive to my roaming hands and seemed to get off big time from them. not the best sex for me as i really love bbbj, but a good time with a sweet girl with pretty good english. great visual for me to have this cutie squirming for some time while i pressed her buttons, extacy on her face.

tuesday, i decided to try the centro area termas. once again i f'ed up because i thought termas 502 was at the address 502 almadanga and from rue buenos aries, i went walking through the searing afternoon sun looking for it. i went blocks through this open air shops / flea market type place only to give up and head back to try 4x4. after all that walk and almost getting heat stroke, i found 502 right before i was gonna go to 4x4. i saw the blue awning and went up the stairs. it's a dinky little place, but at $r107, i was bound to try it out at least. one very tall black girl came over to me and asked me to buy her a drink. i don't like girls who are so much taller than me so i told her best i could that i wanted to chill. she finally went away and i saw it was kinda slim pickings in there. i saw a girl sitting alone near the front door that at least looked petite. they sure do keep it dark in there. i had to go over to her to see her face. she wasn't great but was a little cute and petite and for $r107, i figured what the hell. of course, as soon as i agree to go to the cabin with her, i see a much hotter girl come in and sit down. oh well. i went to the cabin with julieta. one odd thing with her when she take her clothes off is that i have never had in my hands such uneven tits. she had like a b-cup and a d-cup. at least the nipples matched and stood out very long and perky. she had a somewhat indian llok and was not real hot but was hot enough when she smiled. good attitude, fair service, great price. i would not hesitate to try it again in the future. i made sure not to pop with her as i knew i wanted to go right to 4x4 and find something special.

i left 502 in search of dinner 1st. it seems like the centro restaurants close when the businesses do. at 5:30 pm, it looked like my choices were mcdonalds or a street vendor. i found a guy with a cart in front of the itau by mc d's. he had shishkabobs of all kinds of meats. stuff looked good so i tried the chicken. absolute fucking candy!!! he rolls it in some spice. i had 2 but if i wasn't going to fuck, i would have had 3 or 4. he has some plastic stools and you can sit right there and eat. it was maybe the tastiest food i had in rio. excellent.

to be continued.

Cali Monger
12-31-04, 00:38
I had tried generic Viagra but didn't really feel any results. I decided to try instead Levitra. I got the real deal authenitc Levitra before going to 4x4. I went over to 4x4 and it was packed. Seemed like a 5-1 ratio of man to garota. I went to the upper boite and there was some girls doing a show but it was just too packed. I went back down and it was also packed and I was considering to leave. As packed as it was, there was still some cute girls standing around alone. I found Anita (my 2nd Anita). Talk about Hot!!! A 10 for my taste with the black silky hair in pigtails, killer body and beautiful face. She has a bar through her tongue, a stud in her nose and a small tattoo of an eye on the back of her neck. I start talking to her and the Levitra comes on like magic. Holy Shit!!! That Levitra gave me a rod of steel. I'm standing there talking to her in the boite with my rod raging and figure I better cut the talk short and get a cabin. She tried to upsell me but I went with the $r170 cabin for 1 hour. They were so crowded that there was about a 20-30 minute wait for the cabin. This was a good time. The Levitra kept me solid as a rock. Great bbbj and then Anita liked to ride. She was wet and riding for a long time. We ran through many posistions but mostly I lay flat on my back and let her do her thing. I usually prefer missionary and doggie style the best, but with the Levitra sword, it was great to watch this beautiful honey ride me cowgirl and reverse cowgirl.

I went back to copa and called B#$^%$#, the nice girl I pulled from Help. I had vowed to myself not to waste time repeating as I was only going to be there less than a week, but she was so sweet I had her come to Copa and we went for a light dinner and a drink and them back to the room to channel surf and fuck and then watch 'Narc' which I had seen before and is great. 2nd time sex with her was not as good as previous night and as nice as she was, I found myself thinking it was a bad move and that I should've been back at Help finding Veronika or some other just as dirty kind of girl. Oh well.

I woke up Wednesday and arranged to keep my room till 6pm as my flight was at 8:45 and I wanted to have the room all day. They had a half day charge of $us35. I called Karlas Models and this time I had them send a girl from the names I wrote down. They sent Gisella. She is a cute mixed girl. Nice face and body. She speaks no English but was very cheerful and also gave fantastic long bbbj. I had yet to try anal and this was to be my last chance. I did with Gisella and it was real good. She takes it willingly and seems to actually like it. She also likes to ride the Levitra rod. Not very into dfk but her bbbj and sporting fs and anal were a nice closing to my trip.

I had 2 girls from Help (and a repeat with one of them), 3 agency girls and 3 termas girls. Pretty good for 4.5 days. Rio is great for the Garotas and fair for everything else. I did not see any violence but could 'feel' it there with the homeless and energy in Copa. I took taxi always at night. I was only drunk the one time inside help and was almost sober by the time I left. Next time I would maybe stay near Ipanema or Gavea. Great time overall and only wish there was some quality mongering in the states even at twice the price!!!

Robert Palli
12-31-04, 02:14
Good report man,

Did you say you went over christmas? It seems like a bad time man all the girls home with their parents. But u still had a good time. monger on!

Robert

Athos
12-31-04, 04:48
Ah Anita has a great body. She used to work at Centaurus and had braces. She is not safada but her body is spectacular. She is not so young 24 and beautiful tits are starting to sag.

Cali Monger
12-31-04, 05:30
Ah Anita has a great body. She used to work at Centaurus and had braces. She is not safada but her body is spectacular. She is not so young 24 and beautiful tits are starting to sag.
Wow!!! She claimed to be 20 and I thought she looked younger than that. Very much a baby face type. Are you sure it's the same Anita with eye tattoo on the back of her neck and metal bar in tongue?

Bubba Boy
12-31-04, 19:34
I know Anita at Loumo very well, hot little half Japanese number from Sampa, very cute.