2003 Archived Reports [Archive] - Page 6

Roddd

12-06-03, 01:42

Thursday night in the zona:

I parked at the motel lot by the jack-in-the-crack, only $4. Walked across to get a taxi and I remembered what you guys were saying about Taxi Libre, since I have not used them before. From now on, it's only them. Only $2 from right next to Caliente to AB, and no hard time about a tip, so I gladly gave the driver $3. You cant miss these things, they have the words Taxi Libre in big colorful letters right down the side of the car. And on the return trip, just stand on the curb near AB and one will be by in a minute or two. I don't know if they circulate on the other cross streets in the zona, but they seemed to be all around.

AB was not too crowded when I got there around eight p.m., so I got a drink and just hung around for a while. Sure enough, around nine it started to pick up a bit. Tried to talk to one chica with my very limited Spanish. With her not speaking ANY English, not much happened there. She even seemed to have an attitude because of that fact. Forget it, move on. Talked to another one and was able to converse, untill I mentioned that 'yeah, I'll go upstairs with you, for $40'. She just looked at me, and when she stopped laughing, she said "no, it's sixty". I was determined to get it for $40, so I did not counter with $50, and neither did she. WTF! You would think on a week night... ...move on.

A little later, a chica I had been with a few times before had just come on her shift. She recognized me sitting at the bar and came over right away. She went for the $40. Her name is Isaelita(sp?). About 5'3", reddish hair, nice altered cans, and a not-too-thin, shapely, toned body. She told me she exercises regularly, and does 'mucho sit-ups'. Well, it shows. First, she starts out rubbing mr. johnson up and down on her clit for a good five to ten minutes, and really starts getting into it. After that she switches to giving me BBBJ in the 69 position for quite a while. I'm sure I could have DATY, but I didn't, even though she is partially shaven and is very clean. She would not let put my fingers in anywhere, but that was OK. I wasn't watching the clock, but a half hour surely had passed by now. We went at it in numerous positions. The whole time I'm waiting for 'the knock', but it never happened, and I was actually kind of surprised, because by this time of the night, the place was not weekend busy, but it wasn't exactly slow either. Well, no complaints from me. Turns out we spent just short of an hour together and at no time did she seem to be in a hurry or want to rush things.

Yeah, Thursday nights are good. At least this one was.

Fishin Fool

12-06-03, 07:44

Went down south Thursday Nite with a couple friends from out of town. We got 2 rooms at cascadas. One was a single(mine)and one was double. Around 7 pm we went down stairs to the club 2000. There were some real nice talent in there. One girl my buddy liked wanted 150 for all nite. He wanted to look around and see what was up since it was his first time. We went to CC and I found a girl that I had been with a few times before. I asked her for all nite and she said 200. I had to pay 20 to get her out,but then we went back to my room after she got out. I told my buddies I would meet up with them back at the hotel later. When we got to the room,we both took a shower,and then watched tv for about half an hour. Me and Pati started going at it with full on kissing,which was pretty cool. She told me that she was mine for all nite, so take my time and do whatever I wanted to. She had 5 condoms, so I knew that she meant what she said. After the kissing got me excited,she gave cbj which was real good,then she got on top and rode it good! I ended up finishing after about 20 minutes,so i went and took another shower,and when I came out,she was still naked under the covers,so we went at it again. Same thing as before,kissing and everything. I had her missionary,her on top,doggy,you name it! I finished again after a long while, and took another shower and just kicked back with her,wathcing tv. Around 12 she said she was hungry, so we went downtairs and got some tacos. It was really cool that she was holding my hand while we were walking, and just being real cool to me. We ran into my buddies who were taking two girls from club 2000 for all nite,but it was already midnite, so it wasn`t really all nite. I think that they paid 150 for the girls,and 30 to get them out. After we ate,we went back to the room,and ended up going at it again for a longer time than before! After we finished,we were still laying in bed and I remember her talling me that it was going to be 3 am,and then we both fell asleep. I woke up around 7 am and took a shower,then she got in the shower with me too. We had sex 1 more time,then she told me she had to leave. I gave her the 200,plus 10 to get a taxi home. She gave me her phone number for next time too. All in All, it was definatly worth paying the money to go all nite. One thing is that I usually spend 200-400 just hanging out and going with 1 girl for an hour, so I spent the same and enjoyed all nite and 4 times with her. Definate GFE from her. My buddies both had fun,but they`re girls both took off after only about 2 hours in the room with them. You just have to be careful and choose the ones that are really cool. You need to have everything worked out before you go to the room,And NEVER,NEVER pay before your time is up. Both buddies paid in advance, so maybe that is why the chicas took off early.

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TJ Sherpa

12-06-03, 21:02

FF,

Sounds like you picked the right girl. You say you paid $20 to get the girl out of CC for TLN? If so, then I'm confused, because Wilbur1957 posted back on 11/22/03 at 03:38 (in the CC Bar forums) that it now costs $100 to get any chica out of CC. I'm not doubting you I just want to know?

TJS

Pokey

12-06-03, 23:48

"Country John, says"

3. If you are waived over for an inspection, (rare) be nice to the
cops no matter how rude they might be to you. Pop your trunk, be very cop-operative and respectful (these guys are really policemen too and are some of the bravest men I've ever met). Most of the time it is a very brief and uneventful experience, they just want to look int he trunk so if you were being bad and are frightened suck it up. DO NOT offer money to these guys, it is dis-respectful. Be nice and straight-forward. Do not get out of your vehicle and keep your hands where they can see them -be real cool- you (and they)are being watched by several people that you (and they) can't see. If you look upset or nervous, RED FLAG!!!! There goes all your shit out of your vehicle - big inconvenience, bad experience, unhappy place, unhappy faces etc etc. Don't get froggy on 'em.

4. If you are taking some of that prescription THC, better not let them find it. That too is a felony and they WILL lock you up. I have a method of concealment - email me. As soon as I am convinced that you are legit I will share."
___________________________________________________

Country John,

Are you some kinda crazed cop or security guard in the U. S.
Who moonlights as a Monger at night. You sound like L.E. or you wantabe, according to one on your post in the Pomona section, you say you drive a company car, " Crown Victoria" nobody, but cops drive that kinda car.

You seem to stick up for L.E. trying to bust mongers trolling the streets looking for pussy. All of us mongers on this board or the vast majority believe prostitution is a victimless crime.

You really have me wondering when you stick up for Tijuana's police force.!
They are corrupt as all hell, just like some of there northern brothers, but more so, because of there low pay.
TJ cops, are looking to shake you down, for any violation, and if they can't find you, they will somethings make it up.

If a TJ cop stops you, for a violation, he is looking for money. You don't have to bribe them, they will always tell you. " Do you want to go down to the station, or settle it right here? minor violation, running red light, stop sign, depending on car you drive and if you look like you have money $20-$100; drugs, with and without a prescription $50-$200, oh by the way, if you don't have the money, they will drive you to an ATM to get it.

I recently know of a problem a friend of mine had in TJ, he was from a middle eastern country, unfamilar with TJ. He was stopped and they found he had been drinking, and had a Viagra on him without presciption, the cops shook him down for $200, but let him go, I guess he told his buddy cop, and that cop tried to get $200 off him too, my friend told the cop where to go, and ended up in jail.

Do not drive in TJ if you can, he you are stopped the the TJ police, get ready to bribe them, and bargain, do offer money, or you might end up in jail.

Country John, have fun looking for pussy, just don't let L.E. find out, they will fire you.
If your not L.E. Im sorry.

GettingTang

12-07-03, 00:14

I generally try not to criticize other posters for their style of postings. However, I have to agree that country John's posts, have rubbed me the wrong way. Most all of his postings are of "generic" style. Nothing specific, just general comments. This always had me suspicious. He posts all over the place as many of us do., He even sends me private messages about how to handle myself at rainbow7 in Hawaii, while positing to the TJ forum. Makes no sense to me. Even in his personal comments to me, they were generic, sort of like a psychic might use to hook you in. nothing too specific. This makes my suspicious nature come to full circle.

Sorry country John, but you need more specific experiences. We don't need generalizing and preaching here. You're singing to the choir in most cases. I have a nose for LE and to me he smells of that. Perhaps he is hired to gather info on some of us, who knows, but a fulltime monger, he is not, this i assure you of.

That aside, I have made many good conections from this forum and given even more. I trade lots of valuable mongering info with others from the forum, but with John he has LE spelled all over him. Maybe I'm paranoid, but use caution when sharing detailed info with this one. Just me two cents worth.

As for TJ cops, hell yes they are corrupt, just read my post a few months back about getting robbed by them, it happens! And seems to be happening with more and more frequency. I got taken bigtime!

GETTINGTANG~!

Rabo Verde

12-07-03, 01:01

ROFL.... USA LE doesn´t care about TJ. CJ´s posts are very welcome. If you don´t like em don´t read them. It IS possible to go to Hawaii AND TJ in the same month, what with these new inventions called jet airplanes. If all you can get to is TJ, well good for you. Some of us are lucky enough to go to multiple destinations, and post about them, and sometimes we kid around or make general comments. The owner of this board, Jackson, like myself, commutes between several countries. There is more to life than $20 TJ quickies!

Cali Monger

12-07-03, 02:20

My 2 cents on the Country John issue. I read all the fresh posts on Mexico (and just about everything else). I usually have a strong LE radar and have yet to feel that from John. It's possible for sure, but I haven't felt it and really haven't found fault with his posts.

SDcruiser

12-07-03, 02:30

I don't think CJ is US LE, but if he is - that's great. I totally respect and honor our SDPD. Even though they can be a little trigger happy, I think they do a great job and they are needed. As far as sticking up for cops, hell yeah. Now the vice/sting/taking away your car thing sucks - but when hookers are working in your neighborhood, you may have a different outlook on things. As far as LE paying for a little half-n-half, I wish every SDPD was buying the panocha because that would mean they are more likely to NOT to be so hard ass about it.

So what I'm saying is that if CJ is LE, you have nothing to worry about on this forum unless you are buying little girls and boys.

Cruiser

GettingTang

12-07-03, 03:01

look,
i'm in now way trying to badger, bash, or slander any fellow monger. just warning all to be careful is all. i mean think about it for a second. 99.9% of people who post to this forum are nameless, faceless people. anyone can be anything, or appear to be anything. i'm simply saying this guy has my red flag up is all. due to his generic style of posting. nothing personal.

that aside, i can also 110% confirm with to you, that le does regularly post to this site and monitor it. i'm not at liberty to tell you how i know this, but i assure you they do. nuff said!

so my post was not intended to be anything personal, just a fair warning to all. use you wits, be careful.

and remember, we are all protected by the first amendment here.

amendment i
congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Country John

12-07-03, 18:05

Hello fellow mongerers -

Jeez - another long post from Country John.

May be we need a new category here because we (and I admit that I am one of the major offenders) posts a lot of non detailed experienced type postings but at the risk of doing that again, I want to clear just a few things up because I seem to have unsettled the natives a bit.

I don't want anyone out there to think that my posts are anything but genuine.

I believe that our opinions are also important, so I've done a bit of that as have a lot of others so back off a bit gents. . . .

I am NOT LE. I am EX LE.

I drive a crown vic because I love the car (my current issue is my 4th). Yeah, it looks like LE but you'll have to take that up with Ford, not me. Le now also uses Camaros, Volvos, Rangers, Rams, so do those using those vehicles also deserve the wannabe label? Grow up.

Police cars look like civilian cars. They are adapted from those models and are modified for severe duty. The cops drive cars like ours, not the other way around.

If you do a bum squint when a CV pulls in behind you (especially a "Panther" model), then pay your tickets or straighten out your fucking warrants or stop mis-behaving. Jeez - upset because a CV is behind you - how fucking juvenile is that?

If you "wannabe" a cop, then be a cop (if you think you got the balls to make it). I also served as a security guard years ago. A shit job but I was proud of what I did and made the best of things.

As for my travels, the next time you are You are in Guam, visit ASAM Beach, walk along the park trails at the beach and pay your respects to our brothers who died there liberating the Island. Go downtown (South of Tumon Bay- about 3 miles) on Wednesday nights for the open air market - the best BBQ and fresh fish anywhere (parking is tough so get there early). Talk to the Chamarro Indians - great people. Visit the Micronesia Mall.
Go to Two Lovers Point and see the view back to Tumon Bay, also notice all the statues and displays that were torn off their stands at the visitors center there.

I took over 150 pictures when I was there - I'd be glad to post one.

Don't forget your passport in case you are booked back to the mainland on one of the flights that goes through Tokyo. Won Pat International has an immigration like interview for you when you arrive so be prepared to answer some questions.

In Honolulu, the Parc Waikiki is not a bad place to stay- especially the breakfast buffet- I stayed there three times in the last three months and I'll be back in January. They have a room/car rental/parking program that makes sense and the service is excellent. The bank of Hawaii ATM is just up the street from the Ohana on the corner so getting cash is always easy.

Now that the bus strike is over getting around is a bit easier, especially on the H1 to the 78. The VIP Lounge was a OK experience as was the other two places I wrote about.

Mexicali - what can I say. Some of those who've seen my posts in the Mexicali section (complete with images and details) were very complimentary so to them I say thank you.

TJ is, well, TJ. I was there on Thursday afternoon - what didn't you read in my posts? I didn't say that I had sex withy a 16 year old girl - read the post. She sure seemed like a 16 year old to me - again, my perceptioin.

Anybody hook up with Mahogany the waterfall in Pomona? Did her phone number work?

When you are in Halifax Nova Scotia stay at the Casino Hotel on Barrington Street. It's on the water front and you can hear the "NOON GUN" from Citadel Hill every day - very nice. Try to avoid it this time of the year though - it's very cold.
The exchange rate is always favorable but they have TOO MANY COINS in Canada. I find myself cinching my belt an extra notch after a few days because the fucking coins-well; they are heavy man!

The Black Crow bar on the corner of Water and Main Street in Halifax is a great place for a beer (try Keiths India Pale Ale a local brew,- you can't get it here but it's the best beer in the world). Anyone with experience in this part of the world will back that up.

Those of us who are fortunate enough to be able to travel report back to the various areas of this site with our experiences. Those of you who do not travel - well, you don't. No Problem.

I have invitations to various people to go to TJ with me. So far, no takers.

If I smell like LE to you then OK, savor the aroma mate. If you are going to get all wrapped around the axle about it then you have issues that I would be happy to help address. But being a shit-head and being juvenile should not be part of the program.

I want you all to be safe and take care of yourselves. Don't be stupid and get yourself in trouble.

If I leave anything out my post or if you have a question, either post or PM me - I'd be happy to respond.

You know, I've only had two requests for my map of TJ showing the location of AB, parking etc etc. Interesting. I took the time to mark this stuff up and make it available - not only for TJ but for Mexicali as well.

So here I am at the end of another long post. Maybe a new section called "RANTS" is in order - I'll suggest it to Jackson because I KNOW some of you are sick of the long posts - sorry.

IN TJ, the alley is the place if you choose wisely. Most bang for the buck. By the way, do you know who PATI#1 is at AB? If you can describe her right down to the birthmark then I'll give you her email address via PM.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Country John

12-07-03, 18:10

GettingTang

Do me a favor, you know the guy from New Zealand who runs the Price Jewelry Co. booth in front of the Ohana on Lewers, next time you're there, tell him that the guy who bought the Hawaiian Flower ring said hi.

OK - that's it - I promise!

CJ

PS:

Here is the only message I have a recdord of sending to
GT. If there are others, I am not aware of them.

"
Country John
Senior Member
Posts: 96
AB on Monday
Hey GT,

Monday / Tuesday is by far the best time. Quality of girls might be slightly off but HEY! There will be some cuite trainees there for sure.

Let me know how you do - do a good post.

BE SAFE, Be Careful, Be Nice.

Country John

11-17-03 08:05
"

So what's this other shit about?

Explorer8939

12-07-03, 21:25

The whole LE issue is irrelevant to the Tijuana scene, since a good number of the mongers in TJ are CURRENT LE, enjoying Mexico like the rest of us. So, please get over the concept that a member of LE may be posting tips about girls in TJ (this is not to say that CJ is LE or not, it simply means that it doesn't matter).

Let's please stay on-topic here about the TJ scene. If you can't find anything to post about, head down south, and write us a trip report.

irishman

12-07-03, 22:03

Explorer is right, whether or not CJ is LE is irrelevant in the Tijuana forum. If he is LE, why would he be wasting time posting on the Tijuana and Mexicali boards? LE is not an issue there. I guess one could argue that he has gone to all this trouble to post numerous posts about Mexico in order to give him credibility in posting/obtaining information about places in California that may be more pertinent to his job in California. But this seems highly unlikely, to say the least.

CJ's posts are welcome and they have struck me as relatively honest. Of course, all posts from anyone should be viewed with healthy skepticism.

Pokey

12-07-03, 22:48

regarding country john.
i told you he was l.e. and or security guard, some of you claimed he wasn't or it doesn't matter.
i am not one to flame anybody, because it takes away from the good detailed reports we need to have to save money, be safe, and have fun in places like tj.

i only speak up when something is totally off base, or could be harmful. telling us never to offer money to tj cops, because they will get mad, is incorrect, and could land you in jail. ( they want the money, that is why you were stopped.)

telling the forum that you had sex with a 16 year old in mexico is " dangerous"
first of all, its highly unlikey that she was 16 yrs old. in order to work in the bars or alley you need that health permit, and you must be 18. the cops come around all the time, checking for this. maybe shaking down and the girls, for money or free sex.

sex workers do happen to be found under 18, but the bars get shut down for a day or two. i think it recently happened at hong kong and maybe pollo. managment at these clubs don't like to lose money, because a few mongers( maybe more) like **** girls.

here is the bad part, if those corrupt tj cops find you with an **** girl, you are in deep trouble. the tj cops have been known to set up sting operations, not because its against the law, but to get money from the grigo from the north.

if you get caugh, you will have to take them to an atm and give them $400 or $500 dollars, and then they might still take you to jail.

don't do sex with an **** girl in tj its not worth it.

country john, when you were l.e. driving around in the crown vic, did you ever pickup a s.g. and do her in the back sit?

Fishin Fool

12-08-03, 00:14

TJ Sherpa,

I think that it does cost 100 to get the girl out of the club, but since I know this girl from other visits, she told them that she wasn`t feeling well and had to go home. She tipped one of the guys who watch 20.00, and then she went in the back and changed clothes to go home. She told me to leave and that she would follow me out. She followed,but not too close for about a block until we were over by Adelita`s. Then she was cool that they weren`t watching to see who she left with. I guess it`s another advantage to be able to speak the language down south, and as always, Money talks. It was the first time I had taken anyone all nite down there, so i really didn`t know what to expect, but 100 was too much!

JefeGeoff

12-08-03, 02:44

Hey Everyone

"Can't we all get along?" If you are skeptical of someone make a note to yourself and don't read. Personally I read everything and filter out what I feel is BS.

As far as the cops in TJ, I have never been hassled. One of the few times being in a wheelchair is an advantage. From what I figure, every man/cop is different. Some may want your money, some may just be a**holes, and some may just be doing their crappy job. So I think its a bad idea to generalize all cops one way or another. Try to be a little respectful maybe then you won't end up in jail or worse.

A question for all; where’s a good place to park in the zona? I have never walked from the US side. I know the wheelchair access is not great and the sidewalks suck. Thus parking close is preferred. I have always parked at hotel Leyva. I always tip the guys, but sh*t was stolen out of my car. So anyone know a place?

Ok, now onto my Tj experiences.
First time in the Zona was in August. Went down with some friends, ate first then to Adelitas. It was a Thursday night and it seemed packed to me. Worked my way through the crowd trying to find a place to park my ass. Ended up way in the back right. A girl game up to me right away, but I turned her away because I was waiting for my friends. When my friends got there she came over with a friend and they hooked up with 2 of my friends. One of them asked me what kind of girls I liked. She left and came over with a Hottie. Being me and my friends first time, and the fact that I am a frustrated horn dog, we didn't even finish our drinks and we were going upstairs. I tipped a few guys and my 1 friend, that hadn't lost all self-control, carried me upstairs. The room was taken care of by the time I got upstairs. Into the room I went but now it was a different women. She wasn't really my type but I was there, she was there, and I was too horny to fuss. My friend came rushing into the room and got money out of my backpack. I thought he needed cash, but come to find out his girl told him to pay my girl. So he got money, gave it to the chick, and didn't tell me. And he wasn't thinking straight anymore, so when he left he didn't help me into the bed. So my female scam artist called a couple of porters or cleaning guys, and they put me into the bed. I am not comfortable or anything, I can hardly communicate, but who cares. I then give the chick $40 for a CBJ, not knowing my friend had given her $60 already. Got a pretty basic CBJ and she rubbed her tits in my face. A fairly typical encounter for me, unsatisfying. We finish up and one friend is waiting for me so he helps me into my chair and we head downstairs. We find one friend sick with food poisoning and he is such a whimp he makes us leave.

It wasn't that great of a trip, but I was addicted.

I've now been 6 times and I am planning to go again in a week or so. I will post more on my other trips later.

peace out

Boxing Rule 222

12-08-03, 06:36

Just a quick question. Does it cost money to enter Adelitas Bar or any other clubs like Chicago? If there is a cover could someone please list the prices.
Thanks

JefeGeoff

12-08-03, 06:46

Boxing Rule 222

No, but count on buying a drink at least.

peace out

Double

12-08-03, 07:08

Greetings fellow seekers of pun,

Trip report on TJ:

My latest trip south was on friday past. I tend to begin my trips with a stop at a strip club up on the Revolution. I enjoy Club Noir Black. It is clean and the woman tend to be good looking. There may be a tranny or two walking around but I think they are there for the men that are into that sort of thing.

A warning to anyone that is interested, the cost of a drink for the ladies is $11.00 in this club. I would avoid buying the ladies drinks if at all possible. It is actually cheaper to get a dance at the table. Table dances are $10.00. Upstairs dances are $20, $40, and $60. I would recommend sitting down with the lady and speaking to her for a while before going upstairs for a private dance. You want to get a feel for her to see if you can trust what she is saying about the service she is going to provide. I received a lap dance down stairs from a beautiful young hottie that I grabbed as she walked by. She pulled me up to go upstairs, and started promising me the world. I did not heed my own advise and went up without clarifying my expectations. When I got up there she was blocking my hands like a professional boxer. I could not get upset because it was really kind of funny. Every move I made she had a counter. I started to make a game out of it so that I could enjoy myself. Otherwise I had a good time checking out the floor show and having a drink or a few.

Next stop was Hong Kong down in the zona. I love that place because at any given time there can be 5 women dancing on the bar and or the stage. I have been going to TJ for many years and never realized this place was even there until my last trip about a month ago. The strip club is adjacent to the Miami bar. In the past I would walk in the Miami bar and pass the Hong Kong thinking it was a dance parlor. There have a couple of good lookers in there but most of the ladies are average. The private booths are $12 and can be vhm depending on the lady.

Adelitas was up next, and my all time fav was in the club. She was occupied the whole night. Some gentleman had her in the corner pouring drinks into her for hours. By the time I left she was totally plastered. I tried to wait him out but no chance. I wanted to catch her wasted so I could see if she would really allow the freak in her to come out when she was drunk. No doing it though, he had her under siege.

Planning to get back down in a couple of weeks to explore other opportunities. Has anyone noticed that the Chicago has been kind of dead lately. Also, a new gentlemens club has opened just down the street in the same block, and on the same side of the street as Adelitas, has anyone tried it out?

Adios for now,

Double

GettingTang

12-08-03, 10:32

Well, PLEASE READ THIS POST!

My gut was right. Country John is LE, I rest my case! As the saying goes, once a Cop always a Cop.

The fact is, I too have the absolute most respect for LE. I totally support them in all aspects of their professions except one area.

It is my personal, as well as, constitutional belief that all individuals have the right to freedom in this country. This includes sexual freedoms! When two adults chose willingly to engage in sexual acts, as long as both agree to these acts, the government has no business in it from that point forward! PERIOD!

If I pay for it, it's none of their business!
If we trade for it, it's none of their business!
If she is my wife or girlfriend, it is none of their business!
Whatever the circumstances may be, if no one is harmed or forced, then they can stay the hell out of it!

I think throwing people in jail, taking their personal property, embarrassing and ruining another's life for engaging in the most natural human act any of us will ever do, is a CRIME! We are all sexual beings, we all like sex, we all need and want sex, if some of us choose to pay to get it, then this should be no problem in a supposedly FREE COUNTRY, that we all live in!

Now, if your neighborhood is riddled with crack dealers and pimps, drive by shootings, etc., and prostitution is deemed to be the root of that problem, well then fine, this I can understand. But some poor sap who responds to a personal add soliciting for discreet sexual services for $ should not be at risk of loosing everything he has worked for, simply to get his rocks off!
LE will try and bury you folks. With regard to this particular issue, they are evil!

Lots of good hearted kind Men out there who love their wives and families, but the old wife is not into sex anymore. This guy rather then going out and tearing up his home life and dumping his wife for another woman, chooses for a little R&R and some discreet action on the side, by paying for some sex! Millions do it, but if they are caught, LE will post their picture in the paper, broadcast them on television, take their car, get them fired, wife dumps them and gets an attorney and takes everything, etc., etc., IT SICKENING. In my opinion

GETTINGTANG~!

irishman

12-08-03, 11:13

Country John stated in one of his early posts that he was ex-LE, so I am not sure why anyone would be congratulating themselves for having figured that out now.

By the way, it seems not a good use of the forum (at least in this section) to have lengthy posts about the morality of or justification for mongering. Who cares?

Country John

12-08-03, 17:34

At AB, there are in fact Three Pattis. My favorite happens to be Pati #1 (if you ask for her by name, make sure you say Patti#1).

I've never seen a provider spend so much time scrubbing her pussy after sex. Man she is clean.

She turns 30 in March so I promised to take her to dinner. She's a sweet kid but wants 60 to go upstairs. ( I paid it because I noticed a dramatic improvement in her service on repeat business.) Usually, 40 is the max but the service like I said was exceptional. 1/2 1/2 with lots of skin contact & GFE. She wears a sweater and blue-jeans and looks very sexy especially nude. B cups but a DDDDD heart.

I don't know if there is a bar fine to leave with the girl for the night - interesting question.

The alley was the shocker for me. Content to stay at AB, I ventured around the corner on Thursday afternoon and *** ***** ****** cow! Aside from the barkers trying to get you into their clubs, the girls grab ass etc. to hook you. They all want 20 and 5 for the room but seems like if you want sex, the $ goes up usually by 5 to 10. I almost ***** all over ******* and ***** to go ************.

I'm going to spend more time in the alley next time. Thinking about one more run before the Holidaze.

I'd love to go with fellow mongerers (that is if you DON'T MIND AN EX LE DRIVING HIS FUCKING COP LOOKING CROWN VIC AND LOOKING LIKE MAYBE ONE TIME HE WAS A FUCKING COP) and can get over your fucking hangups and don't be a dickhead!! Sound like fun? Lets go!

GettingTang, now that your case is rested, maybe you want to go?

I'm reserving my rants for the opinions section. We clutter the areas and it seems like meaningful posts are not making it to the appropriate site.

Anyway, PM me if yu're interested. I want to get there around noon, and get out by 5. Hopefully that works for you too. We'll drive across, park at AB and who knows, we might get lucky!!!

Be safe and BE NICE.
Country John

Country John

12-08-03, 19:02

Ho Master

Interesting term of endearment - I'm flattered -thank you. We will do TJ my friend. We'll bring 2004 in with a fucking BANG!

Glad you had a good time in Mexicali - jeez - what a place, I can't wait to read your report.

BTW, just got off the phone with one of my (mother-fucking ex-cop dickhead pig-fuck donut-breath crown-vic-driving scum slime shit-puke LE no-good dog-fuck badge-wearing code-of-silence butt-fuck) friends. Had an interesting comment about TJ Cops.

Says they actually notice when they are being mocked by the gringo and it REALLY pisses them off- I mean it REALLY grinds on them. Says he talked to a few at the station house by the alley (him fluent spanish, good guy etc.) and he said they see gringos looking at them and they get the feeling that they make fun of them. I suspected this to be the case but it is interesting to hear it from them.

One story had to do with some white guys in a car that they believed were laughing at them (one of them apparently pointed at one of the officers and laughed) -big mistake. They RUINED their weekend - and they didn't mind telling my (mother-fucking ex-cop dickhead pig-fuck donut-breath crown-vic-driving scum slime shit-puke LE no-good dog-fuck badge-wearing code-of-silence butt-fuck) friend the whole story.

So, WTW, (new abbreviation - "word to the wise") DON'T DO THAT! They will fuck with you even if they THINK you're making fun of them or being disrespectful.

CAREFUULLLLL, I'm not saying to love these guys or bring them flowers (although I'm sure they'd appreciate a do-nut or two) but I AM saying to watch your manners (as you should anyway).

HoMaster, PM me when you get back.

I'm moving the responses to the other cop stuff over to opinions and editorials - morality of prostitution catagory so as not to burden these readers.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

TJ Sherpa

12-09-03, 02:28

Thanks Fishin Fool,

That's the way we handled it the one we did it as well. So it's probably $20 to go home and $100 for TLN w/ some monger.

TJS

Frijole

12-09-03, 18:43

Hola Putos,

This is my first post. I've been reading some of the stuuff you all post on the wsg for the past few months. Some stuff is useful and other stuff is !@#$%^&*. Ewe guys know who you are. I do, however, believe that this site can be helpful so long as the reports are honest and truthfull, and I hope to accomplish this in my report(s):

I currently live in Rosarito, Mexico. Went to BadaBings a few days ago, this club is new and is in Rosarito (aprox. 2miles south of the Rosarito Beach Hotel on Avenida Benito Juarez). I personally did not like it. There is a $5.00 cover. I paid with a $20 (big mistake) you get your change in BadaBing Currency. Initially when I paid I was told that they would bring me my change to my table. Then after I paid for the drinks with another $20 they brought me my change from the initial $20 I used to pay for my entrence fee. Thus they want to make sure you spend the entire amount at their club (thank God I did not pay with a larger bill). They bring you a girl as soon as you sit down. Initially I was told it costs $7 to buy the girl a drink. And $6 for my one beer (7+6+13, 13-20=7 change due). As I previously indicated, I paid the drinks with another $20 because, I still had not received my change from the doorman. Anywho, I gave the waiter $20. The waiter did not return untill I was ready to leave. According to the waiter I still owed $ for the girls drink. I reminded him that he still owed me $ in change from my 2nd $20bill that i used to pay for the drinks at which point he told me the girls drink costs $11 not $7 and tried giving me back $3 in change. What the @#$%&. Anyway, I just told him to keep the change, I gave the girl who sat with me my BadaBing bills, and decided never to return. Thus, I spent $40 and left wishing I had never visited BadaBing's. ITS A REAL CLIP JOINT.

Anywho, the staff is very agressive and they run the place just like your average Mexico City Clip joint (for those of you that have visited Mexico City you know this is not a compliment).

What about the Ladies? Thay only have about 15 girls most look to be in their 20's. Well at the club they only give you lap dances, and you can sit and buy drinks ($7 or $11 or ??) while you get to feel the merchandise, but nothing more. Most of the girls (according to the girl I talked to) do provide outside services. She told me the going rate was $200 for 1hr. which seems a bit high since TJ is only about 15 minutes away and the going rate is $60.

How Hot were these Girls? I would have to say that most of the girls at the club (in my Opinion) were not very attractive. There were a few 8's but, no 10's. Thus, for your $$ TJ is a better deal. Furthermore, if you decide to visit this place make sure to have lots of small bills and pay for things as you order them otherwise you will get screwed (and not in a good way, the way we all enjoy by a hot senorita). Ha! Well I hope this helps.

Gekko

12-10-03, 05:37

We'll be going down this Friday, the 12th, with 3 other members if anyone wants to hook up at AB. Will be there from early afternoon, to late night, early morning. Interested in getting a tour, or just hooking up, PM me.

The Wizard

12-10-03, 20:57

Does anyone know of a good vacation rental home is Rosarito to take a working or non-working girl? Preferably something with a security guard and a nice ocean view. I remember reading about a year ago, a post about a fellow monger who owns a couple properties in Rosarito. How about a site that gives ratings/opinions on vacation rentals. PM me the details.

thanks.

Pokey

12-11-03, 22:58

Hey, I went down to TJ last Sunday and had fun. First of all, I took taxi Libre both ways, price was under $3 both times, that includes about 70 cent tip. You will find taxi libre to the right of the gate as you enter TJ, just past those rip off yellow cabs waiting to take you to massage palors, for a $10 kickback. on the way back, you can find taxi libre in the alley, sometimes in front of L.C. ( Las Chevles) and on Nino Heros.

I posted before on how AB is great, and has hot girls, but I just don't go there too much anymore. Its too hit and miss. A hot girl like Smith( picture somewhere on this site) goes upstairs 4-12 a day. If a girl goes up this much, you are bound to get assembly line service, a quick CBJ, a lube job for there pussy for less ware and tear, quick sexo, sometimes saying " finesse"
Some of you will argue with me that AB is the best, and it can be if you find the right girl.

I have been going to Tropical recently, the last 4 girls I had there were great, between the ages of 18 and 29, 3 of them just fresh off the bus from Culiacan. The last one I had, ( I won't name her, because I want to do her again) was 18, and in TJ for her 2nd day. I was her first customer to take her upstairs( I know they all say this, but I think it was true) It was a true GFE, BBJ, kissing, all the postions I wanted. I did pay too much, $60, but I wanted a BBJ, she did go down to $50, but I wanted to be sure about DFK, and BBJ, so her price went up. She did stiff me on DFK, but the light kissing was good.

Hell, before I picked this girl, another wanted me to take her upstairs, for $70, and she promised sin condom( no condom)

Newbie Steve

12-12-03, 00:03

Pokey,

Is Tropical near AB (walking distance)? If not, will the taxi drivers know where it is? I'm making a trip this Saturday and haven't been there in well over 5 years.

Thanks.

Pokey

12-12-03, 12:58

DFK, is deep french kissing, and Tropical is across the street from AB club, all the clubs in zona rio are in the same area.

LookslikeLE

12-13-03, 00:57

I did the trip down to TJ on Wednesday. Got down there at noon, big mistake. Nothing was going on. I stopped in the Chicago Club and there was not a single person in there. Even the bartender was outside hanging Christmas lights. A hawker said to try out Déjà vu massage. “30 girls right now waiting for you”. So I walked by. When I went in and saw the lineup there were four girls and none that sparked my interest. They want $120 for an hour of massage and sex. Hell I could get that here. So I killed some time and went to AB.

After about an hour I picked the best looking girl there. Usually service is inversely proportional to the girls’ looks. I can’t remember her name but she was actually fairly good, but once the time was up she was dressed and downstairs before I was half dressed.

I killed some more time and met up with Katrina. She was not that great looking but she was very nice and very interested. The only reason I went with her was because she looks like a girl I knew from college. And again my theory proved true. I seems that the less attractive ones try harder. She was a great GF experience. Then a funny thing happened. I was finished and was working the magic fingers on her and she was into her second orgasm when the knock came. She was so into it that when she called out to the hall it was an almost unintelligible moan. The guys outside all started laughing and after a couple more seconds so did we. We cleaned up with out hurrying and walked down together.

With all the expenses it came to $150 for four hours of entertainment. Not a bad way to spend a sick day from work.

LookslikeLE

TJ Black

12-13-03, 05:03

Pokey: Thanks for the reply; I already know where Tropical is. And the area your talking about is called La Zona Norte. Zona Rio is the area over by the mall.

GettingTang

12-13-03, 09:08

After further review, I endorse Country John for the TJ forum President! This guy takes the squeeze and plays along! Ex cop or not, he's probably all right. My true beef with LE regarding prostitution, is that somehow we are to believe they are above paying for sex, when we mongers know otherwise! All dudes from all walks of life pay for sex!

So since country John is at least able to admit he engages in this activity just like the rest of us, he gets my approval. As if it matters to anyone here.

Heading down to TJ tomorrow morning. Got an appointment with an indoor provider, picking me up at the border crossing. Has one of the highest all-time review ratings I have ever seen from any advertised provider. I'll report back.

GETTINGTANG~!

LookslikeLE,
Great report and photo to go with it! Is this the girl in your report? She look better then average to me!

The Wizard

12-13-03, 15:58

TJ in the movies:

Guys, for those of you who want to get a quick shot of a few of the "hot" TJ spots check out Vampires: Los Muertos starring Jon Bon Jovi. This is the sequel to Vampires with James Woods (which I thought was much better). At the beginning of Los Muertos, they are in the Zona Norte, you see shots of AB and other spots. You also get to see a TJ streetwalker turn into a vampire. The rest of the movie blows.

SoCalLans

12-14-03, 06:41

Question for my fellow mongers....

Love that TJ scene. Nothing beats it. I come from LA area, so it's convenient (usually).

My question is what's the BEST time to go down? I know when the bars and spots are hot, but I've gone down two Saturdays now within 4-6 weeks. Last time, using the bus, the wait 2 hours! Ouch. Today, at the SAME time, the wait was 5 minutes! Go figure.

Guys, what really is the best time (on average) to go down. A two hour drive is okay, but a 2 hour wait coming over the linea sucks!

Help, buddies! What do you say?

Best....

SDcruiser

12-14-03, 07:09

SCL;

the 2 hour wait is too long. Since 911 the line back is unbearable. Compare the taxi to car in relation to money and time.

Car = insurance, parking, and the wait back - then possible theft, accident, mordida and secondary.

Taxi = parking, taxi, taxi, walking back thru is a breeze in the late hours, walk back to your car.

From Sandiego I can make a 2 hour booty call door to door using the taxi on a weekday night say after 8pm.

Cruiser

Tangman

12-14-03, 08:08

Fellow Mongers,

Sorry for not responding to those who posted for information on Rosarito Beach, I have been in Mexico and did not make it to the internet cafe.Here is my update: Cuatro Camino is coming along well, they have really improved thier babes, I still say ask for "Norma" totally hot bod, takes her time etc. I agree with the guy who posted "shit" on Bada Bing except I say the babes are truly fine but a clip joint none the less. Virgins is "hot" prices are reasonable and the babes are nice. Stay away form "chics". Back to TJ, I caved into one of the SW,the finest little sweetheart I have ever seen in the alley, "Martha" said she was 18 but looked 16,very sweet personality and a perfect body. Problem is, she was a dead fucking fish in the sack, i just dont get it, these chicks ever heard of return business? Anyways, I like a litte "chunkage" will some of you fellow mongers turn me on to a babe in TJ that will perform with some enthusiasm? My Ideal lady is around 5' 6" 140lbs large perky breast with some excitment between the sheets. If you head to Rosarito drop me a line.

TM

Clicker619

12-14-03, 10:19

Does anyone know about a massage parlor in Pueblo Amigo called Luxor. I stumbled upon it by accident because our Taxi Libre broke down and had to walk back. Somehow, I ended up walking through Pueblo Amigo. I haven't been there in 5+ years and noticed an upscale club/theatre and an MP. Some yellow cab drivers said it was $40 but didn't mention extras.

What's the protocol and price at these joints? Never been to one.

Pokey

12-14-03, 13:25

Don't drive into TJ if your only going to the zone for a girl.
There are lots of reports on this already, but one more time.
Get off when it says last U.S. exit, go to the parking lot. The cost is $7.00 walk across the gate the taxi drivers will gang up on you. take one to the zone $5 pay no more, taxi libre pay no more then $3, or walk before 9PM only take less the 15 min, but only if you been there a few times.
Go to the zone have fun,get a cab back to the US Border walk across, 5min walk most of the time Mon to Thur at night, weekends can be bad,but if you beat the young 18 years olds back from partying, the wait is not too bad.

Chorizo

12-14-03, 21:18

Went to Club Tropical down and across the street from Adelita’s on last Wednesday. There were four new girls in there all around 18-19. My friend and I both grabbed one. Both above average in looks not very experienced so my session was so-so, my friend said the same, but its always nice trying something fresh and YMMV. For my taste the quality in both Adelitas and Chicago have been going steadily down hill and the MP's are hit and miss. I don't hobby north of the border, the effect of an arrest on both my personal and professional lives would be catastrophic, so my wife has seen a rekindled spirit in the bedroom. LOL

Frijole

12-14-03, 21:19

jaymez858

Been there! The Luxor is very $$$$. It cost about $170-180 for full service. The girls are not very attractive. It is there for rich suckers that stay at Pueblo Amigo and don't know any better. Thus, you are better off going to Chicago or Adelita's. The DejaVu Massage Parlor is about 1 block away from Chicago and you can get better looking girls. At DejaVu it costs about $80-100 for full service depending on what you negotiate for. Also, in the Pueblo Amigo section there is a strip club known as Boleros. It Sucks total clip joint. You can't touch or do much of anything; yet, the prices are what you would normally find in a US strip club (and the girls are at best an 8). Thus, my advice is save your $$ and stick to the Zona Norte Clubs.

Country John

12-15-03, 17:02

SoCal:

I'm planning Operation AlleyKat in TJ on Thursday, I'm driving from Lake Elsinore. Interested? Looks like I'm gonna roll solo on this one unless I re-schedule my biz meet.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Rabo Verde

12-15-03, 18:41

For once I agree with Chorizo, TJ quality in general has gone way down in the last few years. Time to save up your dinero and go to GIG, EZE, or BKK, (Rio, Buenos Aires, Bangkok) with the big kids, where $40 gets you the experience of a lifetime instead of 30 minutes in some cum-stained shithole! LOL

FlapJacK

12-15-03, 20:06

I’m going down on Saturday the 20th for one last adventure this year. I plan on squeezing off 3 and maybe even 4 if I got it in me, My personal record so far is only 2. I also plan on getting one of those big (not fat) tall Amazon girls as I have never been with a chick taller then me yet. I’m only 5'9 at 153 pounds so I thought one of those 6" plus Brazilian chicks might me fun to ride plus my buddy will get a kick out of it.
My friend and I will be heading down around 2-3 and staying until 10-11 in the PM. anyone interested in running around with us just contact me Via the PM system.

-FlapJack

Rabo Verde

12-15-03, 20:12

Where???? I assume you mean 6', not 6" LOL. I have been to TJ 100's of times and never saw a 6' Brazilian chick, and I also spend a lot of time in BRAZIL and almost never see any 6 footers... And if I did, I would check REAL close for an Adam's Apple!

Lee Bog

12-15-03, 21:37

Flapjack,

I agree with Chuponalgas. Be careful with "girls" around 6' high. I've seen quite a few "girls" who looked really good as I approached them, but up close I could see they were transvestites. It's easy to be fooled especially when you're drunk/tired/horny. I've heard Bambi's on Revolucion is full of these "girls." But if you stick to Adelita & Chicago area I don't think you'll find too many. Although one time I saw the person working at the hotel desk next to Chicago, & it was one of these "girls." It's amazing how many there are in TJ.

Be safe.

Pokey

12-15-03, 23:23

If your interested in girls from Brazil I know C.C has one named Di Angela, "Di" for short, she is about 40, very tall, athletic, black, speaks english. I never did her myself, I would not attempt that, but I did see her once in CC, you can't miss her.
According to a report I read elsewhere, she does, BBBJ,daty, and greek for an extra $20.
Good luck taking her down, and she doesn't have anything extra, its a real women.

The Shaft

12-15-03, 23:54

I was in TJ several years ago actually and met that same girl. She had mentionded she was from brazil. I had only seen her that one time, and it was during the day on a saturday, and haven't seen her since.

FlapJacK

12-16-03, 01:56

Well I’ve seen a few chicks In AB that look to be close to 6` Feet maybe I’m exaggerating a little when I say 6 feet but they are pretty tall, taller then me anyways and was told a few of them were from brazil. Anyways I plan to tackle a tall chick when I head down this weekend.

-FlapJack

Travel Addict

12-16-03, 06:44

Today Monday, went down from 4-7 P.M. Adelita's crowded but wall to wall ugly. CC empty, Tropical crowded but so-so selection. Usual suspects in the alley. Got good anal from Chorizo's sister, LOL.

Rabo Verde

12-16-03, 07:20

INCREDIBLE SHRINKING WOMEN!
Most of the "tall" girls in AB/CC are wearing 4-6" Platform shoes. They tend to shrink when they take their shoes off! LOL... Let us know what you find. BTW contrary to propaganda, the average height for an American male is 5'9", so you ain't short!

SDcruiser

12-16-03, 10:03

Made a 2 hour loop to the zone. Spun Monica around for an hour, but I hate those SG motels. I was about to go to Cascadas, but she convinced me otherwise. We both agreed to go to Cascadas next time. I rented her for an hour, tried to get a three-peat, but she toothed me to death, so I cut the BBBJ short for the 2nd round. Two pops and a little cuddling was well worth the trip. She saved me $20 by going to her motel, but I feel the need to disinfect. I hate doing the same girl on consecutive runs, but with the weather and the holidays, pickins are slim.

Had my first bad experience with Taxi Libre. On the way back I jumped into the taxi, got to top of the hill and realize his meter is not wokring. He says no problem, 40 pesos. I tell no way 20 pesos. He started to go on and on about yellow cab $5 and I said no way, gave him 30 pesos and left.

So get in the seat, look at the meter and make sure it works before you close the door.

Cruiser

Newbie Steve

12-17-03, 02:12

Went to TJ this past Saturday around 2:30 in the afternoon. 1st stop was AB and met Natalia. Her english was good and a she was a lot of fun. BBBJ and doggy for $50 plus $11 for the room. Walked around a bit, strolled the alley and approached about 5 of the SWG's and none of them would go for BBBJ. Finally, decided on Gabriela, really short, sweet and petite. All nude, CBJ, and the rest for $30 but the room was only $5. I had a lot of fun. There was plenty to choose from mid-day in both places. I did walk into tropical but there were more men than women and the women, yuck.

Gekko

12-17-03, 05:42

That's funny. I had Monica last Friday and we went to Cascades. She's a trooper. Not too aggressive with the money, polite, no rush, knows how to take care. I wish she would do some real beso. I'm working on it though.

Gekko

12-17-03, 05:49

I've been catchin' Taxi Libre for awhile now with no probs. But, this Friday I caught one infront of AB. Normally, I pay $3 (tip included) once I step out into the border linea. This guy told me $5 and said bcuz the pick up once infront of AB, he has to pay some to AB. I don't know about that, but I will admit that was the first time I've Taxi Libre infront of AB. Before, I go to the corner and flag one down.

The other news for Taxi Libre, the got support now. The policia is protecting their line. Before when you crossed the border, you would go past the yellow taxis, go to your right and there's a line there for Taxi Libre. Now, you go the same way, cross the street and you'll see a line there for Taxi Libre. There's even a sign there saying this is the line for Taxi Libre, or something like that. There's also a couple traffic policia there during the busy hours to make sure customers are not harassed. The other tidbit, AB announces a few references over their PA system supporting Taxi Libre throughout the night.

Taxi Libre all the way!!

Jurassic

12-17-03, 06:17

Country John, I've enjoyed following your posts all over the Southern Calif. boards and here in TJ. I'm baffled by one thing: What are these expressions your censoring with ****** symbols?? Afterall this is an adult forum, I'm sure we can handle a little profanity if that's it.

Ex: Country John said:
"The alley was the shocker for me. Content to stay at AB, I ventured around the corner on
Thursday afternoon and *** ***** ****** cow! Aside from the barkers trying to get you into
their clubs, the girls grab ass etc. to hook you. They all want 20 and 5 for the room but seems
like if you want sex, the $ goes up usually by 5 to 10. I almost ***** all over ******* and
" ***** to go ************.

SDcruiser

12-17-03, 07:09

Barker translations:

would someone be kind enough to translate the most frequent sayings the barkers use. After 5 years in the zone, I still don't know what they are yelling at me.

Cruiser

Mr Speed

12-17-03, 08:45

Well Went to Tj last week with my new rookie buddy of mine. His goal #1 was to get pills. Get some sleeping pills zantac and some depressent pill thing don't know why or what. But we got them from a pharmacy that I normally use.

I took him around orcourse Ab and chicago . He was drulling when we got to Ab he had a hard choice in picking the girl out. He had a skinny girl next to the bathroom. She was wearing a blue tub top and a skirt I think. He went up with her 50 + room . He cam down he was happy he had one thign to complain that her pussy was too tight ...... I was like what...... is that possible in mexico especially in Ab and her. I kind figue she might, she was pretty small and skinny and fit. Yah his nut was sore.

Well my turn now anyway We all know never go for the pretty one the 10s in AB most of the time shitty service. WEll I went against my word well she was the BOMB. Her name I believe is "YENI" She is hot hot hot hot couldn;t keep my eyes off of her. She had should length hair fake boob relaly nice one poke a dot nipples really nice legs. I wanted to tag her. Bought her a few drinks investiment hope things might turn out better. Well it was still shit. It's was like screwing a Turtle it's not like i ever did a turtle but she was close enough to one. Next time no hottie soso one and ones with chemistry.

After we went to CC. It was dead nothign dead ppl jsut sittign around nothign atmosphere sucked. At mermaid only one school girl dancing rest no idea went bounced from there so fast.
At Hong knog i had a blast i'll be back at the Vip room very soon.
Rained there while I was checkign the Street girls. One of the girls said 5 dollars she was pretty cute too . I thought she was joking but true You can get a 5 dollar fuckign in TJ. Me and my buddy got no more ammo left so we passed next time I will take up on teh 5 buck any day. One mistake i made should've gone alley first.

Came back to border bought a bunch of cermaic shit for cheap. not many ppl is buying shit at 3 in the morning. So basically every one of the vendor was knocing down the price to give us a better deal. and we did get one . One 4 feet by 3 big giant jesus last dinner 13 bucks. 5 foot statue stand 11 bucks. scooby doo bacnk spider man and pooh bank 5 each . the stand weight about 40 pounds carry it back to the border no problem.

Anyway peace out

Country John

12-17-03, 16:43

Jurassic:

What the ******* do you ***** I am **** when I ** the ***?

Well, I have to apologize because they are meaningless except to say that when I'm stuck for words to express myself on something, the *** and ***** seem to work out just ****.

Sorry for the mystery sandwich.

Operation AlleyKat will be a solo run on Thursday. Wish you guys could have made it. I'm taking my cheapo logitech camera - hopefully it will capture some useful images. It's a real piece of ****.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Pokey

12-18-03, 21:54

I have received a few PM's regarding Tropical not been busy and when is it a good time to go. I only go at night after 10:00PM, I hear a few of those girls working day shift are hot, but at the same time I hear its dead.
So yes, Tropical can be hit and miss, overall the girls are not as hot looking as the 8 and 9 rated girls at AB, but then again they don't go upstairs as much as AB girls, and you can find a 18-22 rated 7 girl, just off the bus from Culican.

You should also try Hong Kong bar in the alley at night. The chica's at Hong Kong, are just as hot as they are at CC and AB. The girls ask for $70, but just offer $50 and most go to the room with you. The chica's tend to be on the skinny side, pretty and shaved in the right place.

I also just love to hang out at this bar and have drink and watch the floor show. I love it when they get all 10 girls to dance at the same time, some completely nude.

You can also go next door to Miami bar, same owners, fincha bar place, most girls go upstairs, but not all.

Greenlee

12-19-03, 00:46

Does anyone know how the girls look at Deja Vu? I've only been to TJ once a few weeks ago and went to AB and CC, but I heard that Deja Vu is also a possibly good place.

Mongering1

12-19-03, 03:57

Pokey,

Just a little more on Miami. That's the place I've had the best luck in getting girls for toda la noche, all night. I just tell my favorite waiter, the one with the all white hair neatly cut, what I want and how much and he comes back minutes later with options. Only once did he not come through, although my offer at the time was $50. One of the boys at Las Cascades made that one happen. BTW, the boys there at Las Cascades are a good resource for the girls that live there. I usually kick them $5 and I'm sure the chica takes care of him as well.

Bud

Country John

12-19-03, 18:16

Operation AlleyKat

Well, I hooked up with RODDD at the Alley on Thursday for some serious mongering and further research in the Alley along with some scoping out of AB.

I was right, my Logitech camera is a piece of shit so the pics did not work out (sorry).

First let me say that RODDD is an outstanding member and was a lot of fun - wish the rest could have made it.

Second let me say that ALL of the girls in the Alley are REQUIRED to have CURRENT (within 30 days) health checks and are REGULARLY spot checked by LE and Health officials. They are logged in a register, IDs are verified -all good.

I can say this with absolute certainty because RODDD and I stood in the Alley and witnessed this happening. We actually were walking next to the inspectors as they were checking the girls. This is a fact, so be assured that that aspect of the operation is happening. This happened after my first pop, when RODDD and I were back on patrol in the Alley.

We hit the alley at about noon and did a walkabout to "check the scene and get into the groove which was far out and infinitly distant man." I was amazed at the variety - all shapes and sizes. I was also struck by the number of ladies. The ratio of girls to guys even at that early hour was 5:1 easy. There were at least 10 real jean creamers.

My goal was a 2pop and back across by 5. I wanted to go for one hour with a nice pre-qualified chica and when I made the selection and did some pre-qual before going upstairs, I made sure the negotiations were solid.

First trip cost a total of 80. 60 for the girl, 20 for the room. It was money very well spent. A total GFE experience. The girl was fabulous. I'd say a 7 body, 7 face. She made it a point to show me her medical card and explained that she was very clean and would stay that way so condom for everything. (OK by me man!!!). Showed me her arms (no needle marks) etc and said she was very cautious to "do not ask sin condom please."

She hopped in the sack and lots of skin contact, genital massage. Her perkey breasts (B's) were amazing to touch and suck. After about 10 minutes of this she made sure old velvet head was at attention and then she slowly mounted - I mean slowly. Jeez..almost exploded. Nice slow and rocking on top for about 20 minutes. Never had it like that in TJ before. I love the small of womens sweat.

I used the entire hour (actually the hotel desk guy told me I was 7 minutes over) and enjoyed EVERY minute of it. I asked her how much for an all night and she said 150 to which I replied in the affirmative - I'll definitly hook up next time I do an all nighter in TJ.

Meanwhile, RODDD was hanging over a barstool at AB. When I recovered from my GFE I went to AB and found RODDD sitting at the bar, beer in hand and smiling quietly to himself - he had just encountered a mattress monster at AB. He'll post his experience but we observed that the same ratio of guys/girls at AB made them a little more willing to negotiate and gave us more to chose from. Patty#1 was off - too bad. I would have hooked up if she'd been there.

We finished our drinks and headed back to the Alley (this was about 3PM, and this is when we observed the health checks happening) to re-scope, recharge and check the quality of the girls again.

BTW, drove across, parked 1/2 block from AB, got my car washed and cleaned inside for $5. (a very nice job too) Parked all day for $5. but bought Mexico Insurance for $17 -an absolute must if you take your vehicle to Mexico.

You must pre-qualify the girls before you go upstairs. Yeah, they'll grab ass all day long (one girl commented that RODDD and I were "wearing a hole in the sidewalk" because we walked back and forth so much) but if they are cold on the sidewalk they'll be cold upstairs so see if they warm up to you on the street by being nice to them and asking for a hug. You need to develop this into a workable tactic since it will tell what her temperature is - very important.

Also be CLEAN. My first girl said that she turned down several men because they did not look clean - she said she doesn't need the money that bad - go figure.

Second POP came after considerable scoping and interviewing. Girl 2 was a young slip of a thing, negotiated through a hustler pimp type guy. Last trip I got ripped but this time I wanted to really test the guy because he was coming in cheaper for the same service (1HR FS Good Time yadayadayada).

Before taking the girl I made absolutly certain that she understood the deal and she did. The guy was legit. It is possible to have a decent experience in this way and it could actually save you some time. The girl pays the guy a few bucks for doing the hustle.

Well, it worked out great. Got the Girl for 50 this time for the hour and the room for 10. I could write paragraphs about the experience with the girl. She (both of them actually) could fuck the stars right out of the sky. Having the hour takes the pressure off and gives you time to relax and play with the nice soft toys. Thought the 2pop would be very difficult but she was so sensual (and pretty) that I welled up after about 35 minutes and did my "execution by electric chair" impression after which she gave me a huge hug, got dressed and left. Total time was probably 40 minutes and I wasn't going to argue about it because I was basking in the afterglow and feeling pretty good about my 2pop.

I will focus on the alley for future research and I am in the planning stages for Operation AlleyKat II.

I'm gonna let RODDD post in the AB forum but let me say that we agreed on three things:

1. Go to AB and the Alley early if you want to have the best deal. The girls are great and no sense waiting for the 10's after 9, they don't want to fuck and they are not as customer service minded as the early crowd. If you have trouble with the selection, there's something wrong with you (IMHO).

2. Go with a buddy (preferably a fellow WSG mongerer). If something happens to you (God forbid) you will need to have a buddy there to claim the body. We're all 10' tall and bullet proof right? Wrong. Mexico is not the place to have a problem and no backup.

3. Fellow WSG Mongerers should hook up more often. It's a lot of fun and we have a lot to talk about, it makes for a very enjoyable afternoon.

No problem getting back to the USA, we had 20 to 30 minute wait in line but, again, the company was teriffic.

PM me for my hotmail address if you want to talk about Operation AlleyKat II.

All in all we had a fun day. A big difference when you hook up with a fellow mongerer. That's the way to go.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

PS: Forgive the spelling errors. I'm in a hurry.

Just Cruzin

12-19-03, 19:45

Country John,
Just out of curiousity, what hotel did you use for the hour stay?
Thanks

Country John

12-19-03, 20:15

Crusin:

The same hotel the girls use. The hotel charges 5 for every 15 minutes usually but the second pop I got a deal perhaps because I was a repeat (not likely) or because the girl worked the deal (she had a conversation with the desk guy).

These are by no means luxury accomodations but the basics (bed and shower) are there.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Frijole

12-19-03, 20:48

Hola Greenlee,

Well I've been to DeJavu a few times. Like everything else you should check it out yourself. The last two times I was there I was not impressed with the selection but, I've had good luck in the past. They want 30 for the massage plus whatever you negotiate with the gal usually $60. The rooms are small, there is a massage table and a few mirrors. Personally I prefer the massage place behind LaTropa its bigger, nicer, and cleaner. Both places usually have 20-30 girls (in my humble opinion a few hot girls and lots of ugly). Another good place is Monte Carlo. The rooms are clean and they usually have 20-30 girls of all shapes and sizes. The thing to remember is that all these places are "massage" parlors and thus you will be restricted to a smaller room than the average room at Adelitas or Chicago and there is a massage table (not a bed). The average costs for the massage plus the girl will be about $100 total (exept Monte Carlo is about $120 and they are in the Zona Rio not Zona Norte so you will need to add the costs of taking a cab). Why go there instead of AB or CC? Well mileage. The massage parlors are less crowded, cleaner, and the girls do not get as many customers.

Also, there is always New Body (Zona Centro), all the cab drivers will try and take you there first. They all get a commission for taking gringos there. They are chreaper ($60-$70 total, $2o for the massage plus $40-50 for the girl) than other massage parlors but, the girls are Fugly. So, unless you are a pig fucker you will not like New Body. Hope this helps.

Pokey

12-19-03, 22:06

If possible stay away from the SG's( street girls) I know some are real hot, and even younger then the bar girls.
Heres why: The $20 they charge is for sex only, one position., with only one pants leg out. You go up to the room with them, they will charge you $5 to $10 for every extra thing you want.
The average price for CBJ. completely nude, two positions $40. The rooms they take you to $5, are disgusting, some with no running water, the girls and you have no way to clean up.
some of those hot street girls, go up more times then average bar girl, those health card, mean very little. Pay a little more and you can still get a BBBJ from about 1/2 the girls, a few will even do you sin-condom Im sure.

The worst part of street girls, is the majority of them just lay there staring at the ceiling, waiting for you to quit pounding away.
You can try to negotiate he price downstairs before going up, but lot of girls will say si, si, but its another thing when you are in the room, and she will try the up sale thing on you.

Just go the the bars and get a girl, the $50 usually includes everything, CBJ, sexo, different positions. You do pay more for the motel room, $11 or $12, but its clean with a shower.

SG's are only good for a warm up, before you go to a bar, or if you really didn't find anything in the bar, and you have to go home.

I have had a few really good experiences with a few SG's, if you find one, keep going to her, because the majority of the girls, are really just blow up dolls.

GettingTang

12-19-03, 22:46

I completely agree with Pokey's assessment on this one. I have been doing the TJ scene for years, but not too much the past few years (21years of TJ experience!) I have probably done some 200 street girls. With the exception of maybe ten times have I gotten anything different from them then what pokey describes. It truly is like fucking a blow up doll. I think they belong to some sort of Mexican working girl union. they do the same exact thing! Out of my estimated 200 street girl experiences, probably 12 have given blowjobs. Out of those twelve, maybe three were even worth remembering. It's always the same position, little to no interaction and an artificially lubricated pussy.

Go to the clubs. My personal feelings are these street girls should be sent a message..........Break from your union hold and give up a little action, or no work is coming your way. I truly would not care if they charged $30-$35, even $40 if the service was similar to the girls at AB. Someone needs to tell them how much more $ they could be making.

GETTINGTANG~!

Boxing Rule 222

12-19-03, 23:03

December 17th went to Tijuana for a quick fix and instead of AB I tried a couple of SG. Both SG stand across from Miami's Bar. Boy what a rip off. The first one just laid there and wanted more money to take off her top. I was like WOW this can not be happening.
I thought okay I will try another. We discussed everything before hand. "sin ropa" and CBJ guess what the exact same thing. This time I just left and did not ask for the 4 dollars for the room. I was thinking I would rather lose for than 20.

GettingTang and Pokey you guys are correct.
Stick to AB.

Both girls were beautiful. They were around 21 years old with long black hair. Nice bronze skin with full lips, but I learned my lesson. No more SG.

Country John

12-20-03, 01:22

All I can say is that it is possible to weed out the blow up dolls. You guys are spot on with your observations generally speaking.

The good news is that it is possible to have a different experience.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Mongering1

12-20-03, 01:47

I did something fun with SGs a few times. After I've came a couple times in a day, I'll take a vitamin V and do a few street girls, not at the same time, but back to back. I just take them to the room and bang away until the knock, then when she starts talking more money for more time I tell her no thanks, I'll get another girl. I'll do this until I either cum or find a keeper. Last trip I took a girl up that I did this to before. She gave me an excellent CBJ, total nude, and told the knocker to go away, all for $20. Maybe she was trying to prove something?

Bud

Gekko

12-20-03, 03:37

I'm not here to defend the SGs but just to say my experience with them has been different.

I have recieved bjs, I have had multiple positions. Granted, I've also had some of the experiences others have posted. Jasmine who stands across the street from Cascades. She has a real sweet face and will agree to everything except beso. She agreed to sin ropa, bj, multiple position. Getting up into the room and its a different story. No sin ropa, leaves her top on, doesn't want me to suck or touch her breast. But, I do get the bj, nothing to brag about, and the multiple positions but still mechanical. Then, there's Flaviola who stands close to Jasmine. What she agrees to, she'll do. She's a little more fun, more animated, and worth going back to for the cheap ****. Another girl I had recently, Monica who stands to the left of the Hong Kong bar, is the same way. She's very caring which I like alot. A little shy but her service is good.

However, the AB girls, that's where I like to be. They're more alive upstairs. But, you still need to be careful. You can still have a bad experience. Take Alejandro. Many experienced mongers know who I'm talking about, and have fallen into her trap. She's short, about 5'1" with braided hair, about a 6-7, B cup. Normally wears jeans with a tube top. She likes to work close to the entrance trapping the guys just coming in but will work the entire bar. She'll come up to you, dance infront of you, let you see her breast, and let you feel them with not a care in the world who's watching. That's how she got me. Right infront of my friends who thought I had a hot one. I thought so too and the bulge confirmed it. Got her to agree to $40 for sin ropa, bj, multi pos, no rush. Well, the 40 turn to 50 to use a condom. She got me there on that little extra. Got everything I wanted, but it was the most rush job I ever experienced. Before I had a sock on, she was out the door. I still had over 15min. Took a shower, dressed, went down stairs and told my buddies how bad she was.

I had 2 other AB girls later that night. They turned a bad start into a great night.

Just like it is in life, you've got to gain the experience. And it doesn't come cheap. You're gonna make some mistakes, but you're gonna learn from them. And the more you learn, the better you'll be to enjoy the fruits in life. In every basket of fruit, there's bound to be some bad apples.

Da prowling GEKKO.

Conejo

12-20-03, 11:59

Let me start by saying that I will be the first to agree that the women in the bars offer much better service for an appropriately higher price when compared to the street walkers. But I myself like street walkers, and what they offer.

I think that we must all keep in mind that alley service is strictly “A la Carte”. So you always have to be very specific about what you want and how much you will pay for it. If you bring bar service level expectations to the alley, you will almost always be disappointed. I appreciate the SW girls for what the offer, a cheap happy ending. The alley and the bars are two very different experiences. I’m sure that those that use the SW girls to warm up can appreciate the fact that their AB experience was enhanced by the fact that the edge was taken off. I myself like the fact that I can either choose to go a couple times the same girl, or go once with a couple of girls for not much more than what I would pay for a single pop at AB.

Regarding “blow up dolls”:

I have also had my share of cold fish experiences with street girls. But I have also had some very good times with a few SW. I think that the same rule that applies in the clubs applies in the alley. It’s all about “attitude, attitude, attitude”. It has been my experience that good attitude, that translates into a good time upstairs. I always look for playfulness, smiles, etc. It probably helps that I can speak Spanish, since I can chat with them to get a better gage. I have had some of my best times with girls that are average looking but seem to take the service with a smile part seriously. The cold fish quickie bandits have usually been the ones who look the best, but have given off the most neutral to slightly bitchy attitude. I have found this to be the case in both the bars and the alley. The bottom line is that if the girl is not giving you a good vive, walk on.

Regarding price:

When it comes to negotiating the price in the alley, the one thing that has worked for me is patience. I think that beyond negotiating, it’s wise to pause to see if the price will come down a little more prior to closing the deal and going upstairs. All you have to do is wait a minute or two after she gives you her first “final” offer. This shows the girl that you do want to go upstairs. But more importantly, it puts pressure on her to lower the price to close the deal. After all, these girls are only getting paid when they go upstairs. If they know that you are serious, they will have to consider whether they want to make the money, take the chance that their time will go wasted. If they don’t budge on the price, then I usually just move on. On my last trip, the girl I was trying to take upstairs did not budge, but the girl standing next to her took my offer on the spot after having witnessed the negotiations. It turned out that it was already about mid shift and she had yet to go upstairs so she jumped at the chance.

On a side note, I plan to take my digital camera to TJ on my next trip. I was wondering what kinds of pictures would be of use for the board, besides those of girls. Your suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.

Conejo

The Wizard

12-20-03, 15:55

Conejo,

If you can, get pictures of the alley/girls area that would be very helpful. I've been going to TJ for several years but have never had an alley chick because I have no idea where this alley is. A cab normally drops me off in front of CC or AB, so I don't walk around that area much.

Good luck.

Roddd

12-20-03, 17:41

Operation AlleyKat

First of all, I want to thank Country John for meeting up with me in TJ, and giving me an excellent tutorial on negotiating with the street girls. I have visited TJ many times, but this past Thursday was the first time I went with a fellow forum member, which was a lot of fun.

I have always preferred the bar girls as opposed to the SG's, but after this trip, I have a new outlook. Even though I did not go with a SG this time, next time it is surely on the menu. Also, it was my first time down there in the middle of the day, and as far as that goes, in the alley, there are no dark spots for the girls to hide in. What you see is what you get, and there are definitely some very pretty girls there.

While CJ was getting busy in the alley, I went back to AB to have a beer and a look around. Again, my first time there in the daytime, and I definitely have a new appreciation for it. Not nearly as crowded as night, but there are way more girls than guys in there, and the selection was, in my opinion, very good. Maybe because it was a Thursday, I don't know.

I started talking to Victoria from Mazatlan. 32 years old and every bit of 5' 10" tall. Not a small girl, but not fat either. We spent a good 15 minutes just talking. Her English was good enough that I did not have to use any of my very poor Spanish. This whole time talking, she never asked me to buy her a drink, and she never asked to go upstairs for 'suckee-f**kee'. Well, time to get down to business. I asked her if she would go up for forty, but she wanted fifty. I said "no can do". She said OK to forty, but if I like it, I can tip her 10. I guess I should have let her go right then, butt, and it was a nice butt, well, up we went.

We spent every bit of 30 minutes in the room with no knock on the door. Not as busy during the day, so no rush to get you out. Had a good time with Victoria. She liked to kiss, but no DFK. A lot of hugging and caressing, and she didn't mind me playing with and sucking on her large natural cans. Good CBJ and she was receptive to go at it in any position I chose, and I chose several. After we finished, we took a shower together, and walked back down together. By the way, yes, I did like it, so it ended up being 50 after all. There I go again, breaking my own rules.

I grabbed another barstool and waited for CJ to return. Sure enough, he came back, 'dragging' himself to where I was sitting. After recharging a bit, we went for another walk in the alley. Well, you already know the rest from CJ's post. I just walked around a little and waited back at AB with another brew. I almost let Sophia from Mexico City talk me into a session for $40 (her first price)!, but by this time, CJ had already returned from #2 and we getting ready to go.

As far as all the recent posts on SG versus bar girl, a lot of good information which we can all use to our advantage, as we should. I think it really comes down to, 'to each, his own'. Just like Gekko said, experience and learning from your mistakes. We have the advantage here of learning from other's mistakes.

I am definitely in on Operation AlleyKat II. It's nice to sit back and shoot the breeze between sessions.

roddd

Mongering1

12-21-03, 01:15

Roddd,

There is nothing wrong at all with tipping the girl. I think it showed good business when she suggested it. I remember a trend a while back when all the girls would put thier hand out for a tip at the end, even if they gave bad service. We all know by now the usual rutine with the girls, so if one goes above and beyond, well I'll tip accordingly.

Conejo,

A pic suggestion: How about getting pics of the "guides" there. I know most of them of course, but for the newbies it might serve to point out the good from the bad. I always advise to stay away from these dudes, but some have a purpose, Franco comes to mind.

Bud

Late Night

12-22-03, 06:05

Dear Gents,

I will probably be in San Diego on Thursady. I was wondering if there is any action in TJ Thursday night (Christmas Eve!).

Are AB or Chicago open on that night?

Street action?

Thanks in advance!

SDcruiser

12-22-03, 10:29

Room at Cascadas, only to find the street was bare and pickings were slim. None of my regulars were out so I went to the AB and it was slow. I ended up sitting at the Kauss? bar wihich is to the left of Mermaids. I was the only person in the joint. Four girls dancing and all were just doable ranging from a 4-6. Beers were 2-1 and the songs were good so I sat there and watched all the girls perform. It was kinda cool to have a strip joint to yourself. I asked the youngest girl there to go back to my room and she said "No hotel". Then the ugliest of the four danced and she said yes for $50. Well I waited for 5 minutes for her to come I decided to take a lap around the street. Luckily I found a regular and back to Cascadas for 2 pops and a little nap with her.

Taxi Libre's are getting harder to find to the zone. All the other cabs are standing firm on $5, which isn't too bad. I just learned not to tip.

Also for those how like to shag the street girls, the dirty hotels are infested with LICE according to my regular I saw today. She said Cascadas and the bar hotels are clean. I bring my own sheets. And don't bring them into the house until after they have been washed. I also check the hair for lice with a lice comb when I get home.

Cruiser

Greenlee

12-22-03, 16:27

Thanks for the info Frijole. I was thinking about going this Friday afternoon, the day after Christmas. I'm not sure if its a good time to go, but it looks like I can get away for a few hours. Still trying to decide where to go... I don't now about the rest of you, but I if I'm going to TJ to hook up, I give up a little performance to be with a better looking girl with a nicer body. Where can a guy go to find the best looking girls? I can do the work for the both of us

Explorer8939

12-22-03, 16:44

Trip report, delayed 2 weeks:

Went down to TJ, took the Taxi Libre to the Zona, cost me 22 pesos. Checked into a jacuzzi suite at Cascadas, cost was about 67 dollars.

Hung out at Bar Miami, ran into a chica named Maya, 27 years old, kind of old for Miami, but what the hell. She offered $80, I responded with 600 pesos, and off we went. Net result, she stayed in the room for about 2 hours, half in the jacuzzi, half in bed, big fun.

After a 10 minute break to clean up the room, and change the towels, off I went down to the street to pick up a SG. Found some chica whose name I don't remember, and off we went. I laid 500 pesos on the counter, and then we worked our way into the jacuzzi.

Five hours later, the chica decided to go home for the night, and I passed out (it was 2 am).

So, the trip cost me 1100 pesos for the chicas, 700+pesos for the room, plus some cash for drinks and the like. A little rich for my blood, but I knew I would only get down to TJ that one time until now.

Country John

12-22-03, 20:34

If anyone thinks they are going to get an advantage over the girls (whether SW or Bar) then you are fooling yourself. The BEST you are going to do is make a deal that you are comfortable with for a girl you'll do. The girls always get what they want - one way or the other. True anywhere except maybe for the skanky hos who need a hit etc.

If you are a new mongerer and want to hit up a TJSW, you MUST try to establish a rapport on the street before you go upstairs, if you want to have an acceptable experience.

Now there are are a lot of stories on this board about rip offs etc and while they are valid and I'm sure they are, I'm not sure why they happen so often except to say that the girls know when to pul the trigger. They are reading the johns. So YOU are giving them the opportunity to upsell upstairs because YOU didn't downsell downstairs.

Knowing who is out to rip you is also very helpful and a big thanks to the members who've posted the names etc. Very very helpful and much appreciated.

My technique (and I speak NO spanish) seems to work well. I always look at a deal and try to understand if I could have spent less and maybe I could have but WTF? As long as I don't get ripped I'm happy.

I'm looking forward to TJ in January. Hope to meet up with some fellow mongerers then.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

GettingTang

12-23-03, 00:53

My suspicions are true.

I just used a very advanced program that compares text type with each other. This program can identify if someone's writing style is the same as another's. I.E.. If the same person might be posting under multiple names. It's 99.9% accurate in identifying a poster, who might try and use other names as a different person. I used a comparison of 22 posts from two different names (22 from each poster) it confirmed with almost 100% certainty that our most famous poster to this thread, is posting under another name also. This program uses such techniques, as typing style, wording used, spacing, spelling, and thousands of other fingerprint type techniques.

My theory, at least as I see it holds true. A certain poster is trying to butter you all up, to make you feel comfortable enough to meet with him in person. I would strongly advice against this. I would strongly suggest you find his true motive for such a scenario. He is after someone, or some people on this forum.

Many of you posed the scenario, of why would he be posting under TJ, if the activity is to take place in Mexico. Does not matter, he knows you reside in SD County and will use any tactic for a meeting setup. TJ is an easy way to meet. Not likely you're going to meet at a massage parlor now is it, or picking up a SW, now is it? But TJ is the perfect excuse!

Most of this is based on theory, but not the part about posting under multiple names, to build your confidence. For what purpose this is taking place, is still open for debate.

Be careful!

GETTINGTANG~!

Catfish

12-23-03, 04:29

Sounds a little paranoid to me. If you thing you are right why did you not identify him? I don't understand what your concern is. It's not like we can get busted for going to TJ to have some fun. Please explain yourself.

Pokey

12-23-03, 07:18

Getting Tang!
Your right again. I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't need the help of any software to tell. I don't know the agenda is or could be, but I think its harmless. He might be lonely, bored, or just having fun writing so much.

But, I would not take the chance and meet up with this guy. You could end up in jail, one or both sides of the border. You can tell from the posts that he is not very knowledgeable about T.J.

SDcruiser

12-23-03, 09:06

I'm hoping this tangent discussion ends on the TJ board. It's out of hand on the SD board. You two should share a hooker and plug her from both ends, have a few beers afterwards and realize that you both P4P and that's all that matters. So grab your woods and squeeze them 3 times and repeat " there's no place like the pussy, it's all about the pussy"

Cruiser

Country John

12-23-03, 16:56

Forming an interest list for Operation AlleyKat II. Probably mid to late January the way things are looking now. PM me if you have not already done so if you are interested in hooking up.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Pokey

12-23-03, 17:10

Sdcruiser,
Regarding lice in those flee bitten SG motels, especially the ones up the hill.

Thats the no. 1 reason why I don't like to do SG's as much as bar girls. Those rooms are filthy, with sperm stains on sheets, and crabs jumping around.

Bar girls are more likely to trim their pussy, or if a dancer like in Hong Kong, to shave there pussy, lowering the chance of you taking crabs home with you.

Most street girls, just don't have a nice haircut down there.
I know some of you like a hairy pussy and at times I do too, but I usually like mine clean shaven, with little to no odor. If its nice, then I can feast on pussy(DATY)

I just would never consider eating out a SG's pussy.

Country John

12-23-03, 21:47

Hey GT and Poki, you guys actually sound like a lot of fun because you surely cannot be serious. Let's hook up for Operation AlleyKat II in January.

I promise I won't have martians ready to abduct you in Mexico! I'll keep the sky from falling!

After reading your posts again I get the impression you are not at all serious and on the other side of it it sounds like we'd have a great time in TJ!

PM me if you want on the "list." Roddd is right. It is much better to have someone there with you who can add some fun to the trip. Several of us might be able to get a "group discount."

By the way, Jackson created a new forum in the Opinions section for postings on LE - jeez that's going to be fun.

I'm serious - let's hook up in January. We'll have fun and I would welcome the opportunity to address any issues you may have with me, my posts, secret agents, spies, Mother Theresa, Martha Stewart etc. etc. Give it some thought.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

PS: Be careful wwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooowowowowowowoooooowwwooo

Pokey

12-24-03, 00:38

CJ, no thanks to Operation AlleyKat II. My idea of fun is not following around the inspectors looking to see if the SG's have their health cards. You already know my feelings on SG's in general: They are only good for a warm up, warm down, or a quick pop, anything more you will be disappointed.

But, may I suggest for your operation AlleyKat II, and your deputies to stake out Revolution street and the following bars: Sam Souci, Bambi's, Unicornio, Eclipse, etc.

Your mission, if you accept: Have a drink, have fun, get a girl to take you to the back room, for fun( CBJ,BBBJ, sexo, greek, etc)

Make it out of there with all your money, minus what you paid for the drinks and the girl.

If you can do this you will be, "mucho ******"

SDcruiser

12-24-03, 04:08

I agree with you Pokey. No more bad hotels.

Does anyone know if you can get a room at Hotel Leyva with your own girl?

Cruiser

Super6stud9

12-24-03, 05:51

ANAL PLEASURE AT AB

Had a blast over the weekend with my anal provider. Now, this is strange. She told me,I am the only one allowed to fuk her in the "chiquito". I believe it because I told her many Johns would love to do her in the chiquito, she does not want me to say her name.

You should also look for a beautiful blonde at AB that has the most beautiful pussy in the world. You have to see it to believe it.
She is choosy on who she does. But most decent looking Johns should have no problems.

Most of the SG have gone home for the holidays to their families. Don't expect to find too many of them til January4 and later.

MrVee

12-24-03, 15:06

Hi, everyone. Long time no post. I am going to miss being with Gekko and others in TJ next week. From the east coast, trying to get reasonable airfares to CA during this peak travel time is impossible. If I'm going to spend $800+ on airfare, I'm heading to SE Asia!

Overnighters with girls. A couple of thoughts. Most will tell you, No, unless they know you fairly well. Sometimes the only way to do that is to speak Spanish. The other way is to be with them several times, but even then, don't be too surprised if they ask anywhere from $200 (on the low side) to $500 USD. Some of the places (Chevelaz, etc.) will charge you an additional $50-100 USD as a "bar fine" to take the girl out of circulation for the night. Most girls I've talked to prefer (and sometimes insist) only to stay at hotels they know about. Even though I always stay in a business hotel (Grand Hotel on Agua Caliente) - possibly the nicest hotel in TJ - the girls typically are just uncomfortable with the idea of going to a place they've never been before, and the hotel (to them) seems like such a long way from la zona.

Nevertheless, I'm a dedicated "long-timer" or overnighter. And I treat the girl with great care and as much affection as she's comfortable receiving. I have an overnight kit waiting for her, and usually some kind of gift (a one-size-fits-all night shirt is nice) for her. Music. Candles. Whatever I can do to make her feel good about the decision to spend the night. Many times this special treatment pays off in ways I really enjoy, but there are times when it's all in vain and the girl does not reciprocate to the extent I think she should. Nevertheless, she's a human being and I'm going to treat her nicely regardless of what I might ultimately receive from her.

Lastly, I would like to be on Country John's private message mailing list (we've traded a few messages already, CJ) for potential rendevous with other hobbyists. I'm traveling a lot in January on a new project in the NE, but don't count me out just because of a minor logistical detail like that !

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Country John

12-24-03, 17:17

MrVee:

Your in. East Coaster eh? We have a lot to talk about! Are you North or South? Even been to Halifax?

OK, it would be great to have you as a "deputy" (I like that) in Operatin AlleyKat II. Jeez, any more "deputies" and we're going to have to rent a bus! Everyone is wecomed though and It'll be great to have fellow mongerers together. Looks like poki isn't going to make it though - we'll miss him.

The first girl I had in from the Alley (who was very clean and smelled great) said she would do the night for 150. Don't know if she was BSing or not but man I'd take her so I might plan for an overnighter. Your pointers on the hotel overnighter kit were great. A chance to really put the odds in your favor.

See you on the West Coast.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Tangman

12-24-03, 18:10

Jackson,

Thank you so much for creating and maintaining this most excellent web-site, your site is a place of taste and character.

Have a Merry Xmas, Tangman

Mongering1

12-25-03, 02:36

This alleykatll thing, make it include a Sunday and I'll try to make it. I'll bring the Vegas crew down for some serious in depth mongering notes. Beware, last time something this huge happened, several of us ended up asking our fellow mongers if we might had been with a "lady-boy, billy-boy, katoey, TS, TV, or whatever you wish to call them" last night. Be careful in those Revo clubs!!!

Bud

Xmas present to all:

welcome to tijuana dot com has a coupon section. Use them, most of them are valid, but some come with stupid stipulations once you try to redeme them.

Mr Speed

12-25-03, 10:38

YO Mr.Vee
Well it was great meeting you last time . I went there with Gekko . I guess you were probably a littlel too drunk or having too much fun in the VIP room to remember me.

Oh yah Fellow monagers when is the Alleycat2 thing going down. Hopefully it's after christmas or new year. I think I got the mad cow disease from Downtown La hot dogs or Carls jr burger. Got food poision once already in tj. Once again never eat at that 3 for 1 dollar taco stand. Don't want to end up like me. yah let just say i can do the christmas song with my ass every 5 min . Yah it;s not pretty any way you look at it. So if it's after new yr or somehting I'll see if Gekko want to go or something.

post up all the info and future contact or something
peace out happy hunting and happy New Year

Explorer8939

12-25-03, 18:37

Overnighters with SGs is not a completely straightforward proposition. It is virtually impossible with the day chicas, they have places to go and babies to care for in the evening. That leaves the night chicas, those who arrive at 8 pm or so, and stay until the early morning. They have to be home at a reasonable time, never much later than 7 am, and if so, with a pile of cash to explain their late arrival home in the event that the boyfriend happens to be awake when they return.

So, they will sometimes agree to stay overnight, but will leave around the end of their shift, 4 or 5 in the morning.

Country John

12-25-03, 22:21

Explorer:

Thanks for the heads up on the overnighters. I'll keep that in mind.

Mongering1:

You are welcomed to join us for Operation AlleyKat II. Most likely will be during the week though. I'm on a very tight leash on the weekend. I'm adding you to the "DEPUTIES" list. You'll hear from me probably mid January.

All newbies are encouraged to sign up for Operation AlleyKat II. It's a LOT of fun and very safe.

Be safe and BE NICE

Country John

Travlr

12-26-03, 06:43

Hola TJ Regulars. I will be making my first trip there this holiday week 29 Dec - 2 Jan. I know that places like Nuevo Laredo and Juarez are mostly deserted during the holidays. If one knows where to look however there are always some good times to be had. Can anyone here tell me the places to look and the places to not waste my time in for this week? I am reading the last 100 posts or so on this forum for tips but any holiday specific 411 would be appreciated.

Explorer8939

12-26-03, 07:43

TJ will be fine, now that XMas is over. Its not even that bad on New Years Eve.

Just read even more messages here, or check out other TJ specific sites. Read and learn, and have a good time.

GettingTang

12-26-03, 10:37

Anyone contemplating the idea of an operation alley cat with CJ, had better think again. I said it loud and I said it clear, he's up to no good! Just trying to warn fellow mongers. If you're into possibly being blackmailed, photo taken and followed by LE, documented by god knows who, or just being monitored by a potential good old fashioned weirdo, then do it. This guy posts under multiple aliases with the full intentions of building your confidence. Read my post about a week back. I'm not guessing, or wondering, I know this for fact! I have now confirmed this fact with more methods then just one!

True, I do now know what his specific motives here are, but I assure you they are not as being presented to this forum! However, we live in a free country, so if you feel the urge to meet up with CJ, then do so, but realize you have been forewarned!

GETTINGTANG~!

Dosequis

12-26-03, 19:20

I read some of this stuff with great amusement. This LE thing is ridiculous, since prostitution although technically illegal in TJ is tolerated. You will never get busted for doing an 18 year old bar girl or SG. Whether or not you want to give up your anonymity to another board member is another issue.

Also, hanging out in huge groups is not recommended. The women feel much better being approached by one guy at a time. I have seen large groups of guys in TJ acting like fools laughing, pointing at women and the working women don't like it. Guys that go solo or with one other guy get the best deals. Some guys are just afraid to go alone.

Adelitas and Chicago Club women will do all nighters but at a higher price than the other clubs. The prices some of you guys pay and throw around is just ridiculous but it is your money. I talk to the TJ girls all the time as they boast about what some guy paid. Probably some of you on this website.

In the bars outside of AB and CC you can easily score an all nighter for well under $150 and many times under $100. Just sit with the girl, (not with a bunch of guys) buy her drinks and dance. If you click, you have your own room she will take very little money and hang with you. Sometimes even free or at the regular session price. Having beer, wine or champagne in your room helps as well. Spanish helps as well. If you are a total non-speaking obvious gringo they will milk you. Do you blame them? What do you have to talk about if you can't communicate. They will go for the maximum dollars. If they feel comfortable with you, great deals can be had because they want your company.

TJ is a lot slower now because of the holidays. There will always be girls around but not like during the pre-holiday months. Some girls live in warmer climates as well and come back to TJ when it starts getting warmer. Maybe one day, Mr Vee will even learn how to spell the name of the bar he keeps mentioning.

Country John

12-26-03, 20:03

dosequis:

Thanks for the info. I was trying to figure out the best way to handle a bus load of deputies and your comments make sense. Fellow deputies, take note, we have to get our tactics straight because we don't want to make fools of ourselves. We want to get serviced, not offend or upset anyone and not lose our shirt!

As for GT's comments below, I will not dignify it with a response. I will trust that fellow mongerers (and deputies of course) can read between the lines. I still think he is not serious, nobody can make such a fool of themselves on purpose. Only God could love a gambler who trys so hard to lose.

Watch out for the TV cameras GT, somebody's watching you, it might be ME!! No, maybe MICKEY MOUSE!! No, maybe TINKER BELL!! Wait!! Who's that over there. . . . .ooooooo!

All kidding aside for a moment, I think the post is out of line and is contrary to what we are all about.

Those who join Operation AlleyKat II will have a good time if they play it straight and behave. Also, good and timely advice will help us, such as the info from dosequis.

I don't give a shit how you spell adaleettaaas bar, as long as I don't forget how to spell PUSSY!!!

OK, now back to the kidding: Hey GT, what's that over there. . . .OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOO!! WOW!! WATCH OUT!!

What is the one single and sure way to determine if LE is following you in an unmarked car or watchnig you from a distance? How can you instantly tell by glancing in the rear view mirror that the vehicle behind you is LE no matter what kind of vehicle it is? Join Operatio0n AlleyKat and find out.

Be Safe and BE NICE

Country John

Explorer8939

12-26-03, 22:34

What do the chicas in the Zona bars talk about? Here's the list:

1) Their boyfriends. God help me, they are constantly making sure that their novios aren't banging their amigas, or else are complaining about the novios.

2) How much $$ they extracted from some client for the minimal work. Their favorite is to upsell some client, and then not have sex because the client is too a) drunk, b) old, c) gay.
They love overnighters where they show up late and leave early.

Pokey

12-26-03, 22:36

DANGER,DANGER, WILL ROBINSON

You could be in danger if you become a deputy in Operation Alleykat II, because C.J. could put you in a dangerous situtation.
He could also freak on you, because he has a split (multiple) personality disorder, thats why he uses all these different names to post all over the place on the WGN forum( read Getting Tangs excellent researched posts on the subject)
I think every personality(demon) takes a name and starts writing, the dominant demon in his head thinks he is ex L.E. (C.J.)

Or, the worst thing that can happen, is you become a pimp and baby sitter for C.J.

You'll see in the post a few pages back, C.J. doesn't know how to get a SG himself, he uses a "pimp street hustler"

Rule no 1, when in TJ, don't talk to street hustlers, they only want to separate you from your money, or worst yet, set you up, for a take down from TJ's corrupt cops. Pimping in TJ is against the law, using these people in front of the cops, could get you in trouble.

You do not need to know spanish to get a girl in TJ, all girls even with zero english knowledge, know sucky-fucky. Hell, you can even use fingers to show how much.

If you can learn a few words in spanish, for example $20=veinte,
30=treinta, 40= cuarente, 50=cincuenta, 5-cinco. try not to spend more.
Go to free translations, and learn.. What your name, where are you from, how old are you, etc.

If you still insist of going to Operation AlleyKat II, Just remember you had a few warnings. Think about that while "Jose is having fun with your ass in one of those TJ jails!!

Oh ya, buy C.J. a drink for me. I wish you well.

Boxing Rule 222

12-27-03, 00:06

Could you please tell the board CJ's other handles.
Thanks

Country John

12-27-03, 00:33

Soft date for Operation AlleyKat II is last week in January. GT and Poki are NOT invited but can tag along anyway. I'll leave my split personalities home so we have enough room for them.

Right on BR222, what are the other Identities fellas? Looks like BR222 is gonna deal a knockout punch here. I will stipulate right here and now that Jackson has MY PERMISSION to verify or invalidate their claim so we can learn who the real fakes are. Jeez - I can't wait. Jackson, anything you need from me along the lines of permissions or authorizations to reveal my identity (if Poki and GT are right) will be sent upon request via email and you can expose me to the group after which I'll resign from the board.

I'm planning for an all nighter in TJ on business so I'll be looking to hook up with the first alley girl from last trip with RODDD and this time I'll remember the names (maybe one of my personalities can take notes- we'll see).

Hope Christmas worked out for everybody and here's to a great year of mongering and exciting posts.

Now GT, let's get those ID's posted and get this show on the road, maybe Poki will give you a hand (if he has one free). Fellow posters, watch this carefully because he's gonna start back-peddling and it's going to be fun to watch.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Vaquero

12-27-03, 01:45

All the debate over whether someone is a U.S. cop in TJ kind of bewilders me. I mean, wouldn't y'all think that a fair number of U.S. border patrol employees pay to get their freak on south of the border? Active military do, too, so what's the difference if a U.S. cop, or former U.S. cop, is mongering in Mexico?

On my one trip to TJ's Adelita's, I'd planned on going alone. Then as I crossed the border I met a former migra employee, a Chicano guy, crossing the border for the same reason. I walked to and from the bar with him, thinking he'd be a useful guide and also that it might be safer having a buddy on my first trip. I had a great time. (Though, come to think of it, he may have later placed a GPS tracker on my vehicle!)

I'd suggest y'all ply CJ with a few shots of Don Julio, the ultimate truth serum. And if he is a cop, be grateful, because a little fear in the air always enhances a trip to Mexico.
I'm consdering another trip to TJ. If a former colleague isn't bullshitting me, his in-law is one of the owner's of Adelita's and would be happy to provide VIP treatment and a tour.
Let's get back to the basics of talking about pussy, eh? Or, if you like, keep talking about CJ like he's an online Dungeons and Drags adversary. Or take some friggin' Mydol already.

SDcruiser

12-27-03, 06:34

Would you guys cut it out. Due to a prior commitment, my time mongering in TJ is runnning out. I don't want to spend it watching you guys b**** at each other.

CJ; what in the hell is your problem? If you wanna orgainze a support group, why not due it thru PM? You've obviously got issues that seem to irritate other people and not only on this board. So just go on the down-low and conduct what ever business plan your scemeing. Personally I don't care for the group thing because it's about the p-word and not about group meetings.

You guys that are on the anti-cj kick. Just let the fools on their alley kat thing do what ever they want. I know the holiday thing makes it slow, but the girls will be back in a few weeks and it'll be time to dive into the poon again.

now back to the p-word.

Cruiser

Q Bert

12-27-03, 20:51

Hello,

Just wondering who has been to CC or AB lately. Is it still dead? I was thinking about New Years Eve. Renting a hotel and hopping around.

I've been to both AB and CC but are there better places to hook up with a LT?

Thanks!

CT

Country John

12-27-03, 22:09

SD & Vaquero

Well put.

The "group thing" consists of a group of guys hooking up and then doing whatever they want to do. We can all meet at AB and have some laughs and then do our own things. Just a chance for us to say hi and share a beer before, during or after our conquests. You guys don't want to do that? Fine. Let's just call it a bad idea and forget about it OK? Let's let the Pokis and GT's run the board.

I have no "problems," but thank you for asking. I enjoy the board and the opportunity to learn from some of you experienced people. I'll limit myself to that from here on out.

Country John

GettingTang

12-27-03, 22:54

CJ, you imply that somehow pokey and myself are running the board? Geeze thanks for giving me so much credit.

To date I have met privately with 9 mongers from this forum. I have met with posters and mongers in Thailand, Seattle, Manila, Cebu, and San Diego. Yet you never hear me boast about it. We just arrange private PMs, fellow mongers learn to trust me and we share experiences and contacts etc. It's quite simple.

You on the other hand come in here, telling very generic stories on an hourly basis. Post under (we shall use the term alleged) aliases, no specific details and are trying way too hard to organize a huge meeting. Being my paranoid self, having read most all of your posts, have drawn my own conclusion, that you're up to something. And I doubt it has anything to do with true mongering. Mongers, are suspicious hobbyist, we use caution, you are way to blatant and obvious!

I have no idea why you want a huge group of guys, most all of which will be from San Diego, to arrive at the same destination all at the same time. That in combination with your posting style, among other things, has many more mongers on this forum quite suspicious!

That being said, if you feel it is in your best interest to meet up with CJ, then do so. I would like to see a VERY long time monger to this forum, no not RODD, another other then him and no not some newbie either! I'm talking a monger who has been posting to this forum for over a year, to report back having met CJ, then maybe we can shine some new light on this situation.

I think this guy is trying to get your photo and personal info. He wants to put your info in a file somewhere for profiling purposes, or other ulterior motives. This is pure speculation, but it smells! Things are far from adding up.

If you want more proof, go read CJ posts under Law enforcement and prostitution under the opinions section. This might sum it up for some mongers here! But then again, he might be smart and delete that post. However, I have it copied for those who would like to read it. Remember, think for yourselves and to each his own!

GETTINGTANG~!

Explorer8939

12-27-03, 23:06

Guys, please get over that CountryJohn guy, its beginning to sound like 2 gay guys flaming on the net.

Getting back to the topic on hand, how was TJ Friday night?

GettingTang

12-27-03, 23:36

Back to reviews.
I'm giving away a sacred secret of mine here. This is not easy to give up because I know you mongers will swamp this girl. She is a TJ diamond in the rough! I have found another great TJ indoor provider, so I'm willing to now share this one!

Her name is Tania You can find her add under the************. Her name is Tania, she is about 5'2" maybe 105#. Long beautiful black hair. Young, I believe she is 22. This girl will rock your world! I have been a regular for about 6 months. She arranges a deposit through paypal. She has always been OnTime, she is honest, and during the one meeting she failed to show, she gave back my 50 paypal deposit immediately! She will actually pick you up at the border and drive you back to her apartment. Well, worth the 1.50~~!! She does a full on GFE, you will absolutely forget your paying for it. My favorite is how she sits you down in the relaxing recliner chair, sit you back and rests her beautiful head on your chest and then works her way down to one of the best BBBJ on earth! She nibbles away keeping you right on the brink until you beg for mercy! She then shift to her large lush bed and does it all! Anything you like, including greek! She is sweet, soft and sensual. Well-worth the extra effort of meeting her! Big brown soft sensual eyes, soft silky skin, Very nice, passionate, Latino girl! You will really like this one. She has a nice condo on the outskirts of TJ, the first time you with her, might make you nervous, but no worries, she is the real deal!

GETTINGTANG~!

Country John

12-28-03, 01:39

Anyone try the new bar a couple of blocks from AB? We were recuited big time to go there but resisted sensing it was a clip joint (what else is new eh?). Guy says has jacuzzis etc. Looks like maybe 1 or 2 blocks North of AB on the same side of the street. Of course I can't remember the name but if you stand in front of AB and look North you'll see a tall sign with a sombrero. It looks off the beaten path.

Planning to trip down the last week in January, this time I'll get good pics.

Not to muddy things up but certain people said that they had proof that I have multiple ID's on this board and they have yet to post them. Was that bull? We're waiting!

I sense members getting testy about you guys flaming everybody but you know what - I'm calling you on your bullshit and if you have "proof" that I have multiple ID's then now would be a good time to post it or own up to the BS.

Other members should be calling you on this as well. If you lie about me perhaps you're lying about a lot of other stuff too. Let's see it.

Country John

By the way, here is the quote from GTs post:

"This guy posts under multiple aliases with the full intentions of building your confidence. Read my post about a week back. I'm not guessing, or wondering, I know this for fact! I have now confirmed this fact with more methods then just one!"

I would appreciate you calling this jerk on this issue. He is a liar and we're about to prove it. If this is the kind of behaviour we are going to tolerate then we're in trouble here.

John Helvete

12-28-03, 04:26

Any fans of Monica the spinner? I would like to do her with another guy. 2 on 1 porno style. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.

Rabo Verde

12-28-03, 04:48

COUNTRY JOHN
Actually Country John is an agent of SPECTRE - the Special Executive for Counterintelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion. However, he can not harm you if you drink your martinis shaken not stirred, while logging into this forum.

Cheapskate

12-28-03, 08:06

GT:

Tania is nobody's secret. My friends and I have known her from AB for quite sometime now. Better known as "La Famosa Tania" to alot of AB girls, she provides incall service as you described, if you make a date/appointment with her through her contacts as shown in the following website:

http://www.escortmexico.net/P5.html

Great service provider. We have talked about her repeatedly earlier this year in this forum. She's Legendary.

Metal_Mickey

12-28-03, 10:42

FYI:

'La Famosa Tania' is at least 35 years old. Sure, a well kept 35, but I don't know how a previous monger came up with 22 years old--unless it's another Tania...I know that there are at least 4 working out of Adelitas.

GettingTang

12-28-03, 12:36

The Tanya I date is not 35, this much is obvious! Although now i'm curious about this lady?

GETTINGTANG~!

Pokey

12-28-03, 13:52

Im going to try to make a run to TJ tomorow night( Sunday 10pm-2pm). Im calling it,"Operation army of one" If you see me in the bars say hi.
I will be waring black, I have dark hair and eyes. I am between 5'6" and 5''10" 160 to 200Lbs, age 35-45. I try to fit in as much as possible. I know some spanish, but I can't fool the locals.The info is vague, because if your aproach me and are a weido; I will deny Im Pokey.

The way I usually do TJ is park on US side( $7) I do this because I don't want to be harassed by the TJ cops, and there is little to no wait to cross back to the States.

I take a taxi to Chicago club ( its easy to say and no mix up of names) I try to take taxi Libre($3 including tip) Yellow $5 no tip.

I started using the blue diamond pill the last few times in TJ. I like it. It makes me rock hard, last longer, and I could do 2 to 3 girls if I wanted too. So I will buy the pill $13 100mg, I can only handle 1/2 a pill now.

While waiting for the pill to kick in. I like to get a drink at Hong Kong( best show in the zone, girls don't bug you, AB best looking girls. I might go out and do a warm up SG. I have my sites on the girl with the black boots. I did her last year, she was 18 then. She wasn't anything great, but was a turn on, she was my 2nd girl of the night, so I didn't want anything more then a quick fuck.
So she only lifted her skirt, opened her shirt, and keeped those boots on while I fucked her with legs and boots over my shoulders.( I won't give her name, because I want her to be there and not with some other monger.)

For the main event I'll be looking for something young, hot, and new to TJ. I best bets for BBJ, sexo, GFE to me is Las Chevelas next to AB, or Tropical across from AB. At these bars not all the girls go upstair, but the ones that do, don't go up too often and are not as jaded as the girls at AB. I might even try two girls at once, it seems to turn them on more, they start off with nervous laughter, and giggles, but really get into it. I love it.

If I don't warm up with an SG, I might try Rio Rosa bar in alley, near Nino Heros. Its always dead, but I always see a few hot chica's.
The girls are sometimes desperate for clients, and will give you a taste of things to come, by taking out your dick and start sucking right there for the price of a drink. ( anyway I heard that, I want to see if its true)

I hope I can go and not have to abort my mission. Im so looking forward to it.

Tonality

12-28-03, 19:29

Back to basics: 3 SGs and an Aztec massage

Ventured to TJ on a sunny, but chilly Saturday afternoon. Same drill as last time. Parked at Gateway ($4) bought a 100mg V ($12) took half. Walked to Zona Norte. Wandered around, did two SGs. First, Vivianna, wanted $25 for "sin ropa." I obliged. She disroped and I enjoyed pumping her hard. Nothing special, but a good warm up ($5 for the room). The next SG, Jasmine was on the South side of the alley. She agreed to $20 "sin ropa." We went up to a really shabby room ($5) with no bathroom. I gave her the money (my mistake), and then she wouldn't take off her bra! This was too bad because her breasts were young and very nice. Her explanation was that she had had a baby 9 months ago and her breasts were full of "leche." Well that would have been fine by me, but I respected her wishes and kept my distance. Then she kept her hand on the base of my shaft the whole time because I was "too big. " I barely was able to finish before time ran out. For some reason, I felt the need to tip her $2. Perhaps I was taken, but she seemed sincere.

Had a fantastic massage and hot shower at Aztec. One hour for $20 and $2 tip. Felt much revived, went and had a beer ($350 pesos) at Mermaid's watched the rather lame blacklight schoolgirl show. Cruised around and found who I was looking for in the alley. Crystal, as sweet and petitie as can be, says she's 19 years old. Had her on my first TJ visit. Quince minutos of pure bliss for $20, plus 55 pesos for the room. I think, I was her first of the evening. I left a happy man.

Walked back to the border around 9 pm. No problem. Would have taken a cab but I'm on a budget. One of these days, I'd like to try an Adelita's girl. It sounds like a more involved experience. If someone could elaborate on exactly what you get for the $61-$71 dollars, I'd appreciate it. For me, it's hard to justify the cost difference, 3 SG = 1 BG (mas o menos).

Tonality

Panachemc

12-28-03, 20:44

Question:

Has the current "Level Orange" substantually increased the time to cross back into USA?

Country John

12-28-03, 21:56

Chuponalgas

You dog! You blew my cover!!!

Where are you man, back in Panama? Go and read the post about me in the TJ SW section!! You'll LOL.

Looking forward to seeing you late January in TJ with the other "Deputies" (I like that).

Hey GT, I'm waiting for you to post the list of aliases I'm using. So far you are a no show as expected. That's because you are also a liar.

Apologies to fellow members for dragging this one out but I want this liar to put up or shut up. I also think you should call him on it too because you could be the next subject of his lies.

Country John

GettingTang

12-28-03, 22:45

Push, push, push,

CJ, this is my final post regarding this matter!

#1. This is the internet, anyone can be anything on this or any other forum! You act as if you are looking us all in the eye and taking things way too personal. You could be anyone, you like me are a nameless, faceless, mumble jumble of text!

#2. Your postings and posting style is of great suspicion! Don't believe me, take a look at his posts under prostitution and Law enforcement!. CJ, outright says that us mongers are breaking the law and we deserve to get caught and get what we deserve. Does anything outside of this really need to be said????????????????

#3. There could be any number of reasons you are pushing soooooooooooooo hard to meet up with many mongers. Here is one for you all to digest, did you know there are actually laws on the books that pertain to individuals who are US citizens who go to foreign countries to perform illegal acts???? Did you know this? All you people who have ridiculed me and bashed me based on this event to take place in Mexico! And if he is really LE there is nothing he can do about it anyway.............Well, guess what, you're sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong. If he can prove you went down to Mexico to escape US law and engage in any number of illegal activities you can get slapped with long term prison sentence!

I.E.. If you go outside the US to engage in sex with a minor. Lets say for arguments sake she is 17, in some countries sex with a 17 yo, is legal, it is not in the USA, if the US LE can prove you went across the border to engage in sex with a 17 yo, or even if you just ended up having sex with her, its a 30 year prison term! Yes, I said 30 years if convicted! The sentences are doubled in this case. It's even more of a crime them doing it here in the USA!

True, I have no idea what CJ is up to. It surly might be as he presents himself to this thread. If you believe it is, then for crying outloud, go with him! It might turn out okay! Then again it might not. You might go with this guy, have a great time think he was cool, only to have LE kick in your door two weeks later because of something you did in Mexico! Your wife might get a photo of you sent to her work, showing you sucking face with a sleazy Mexican prostitute in a seedy TJ bar. Who the hell knows!

Who the hell knows, if you have nothing to loose, then go for it! Just remember, given the effort he has put forth on this forum, if he is up to something, he won't likely let you know when you meet up with him!

Remember, we are all, nameless, faceless text in this forum!

Good luck!
GETTINGTANG~!

Rabo Verde

12-29-03, 01:12

Slooow times at AB and CC, guess all the hot ones went home for the holidays. The SW scene is nearly "normal" though.

Country John

12-29-03, 03:07

OK GT, bottom line is you lied and now you have to figure out how you are going to save that nameless faceless face of yours. Sure, we're all faceless nameless members but we should still behave ourselves and not post misleading information about other members that could have an adverse effect on relationships. the right thing to do would be to admit you were lying. I'll bury the hatchet with you and join you for a beer at AB - I'll buy.

Chuponalgas:

I'm waiting until the end of January to give the girls (and myself)time to get through the holidaze. Things should be hopping by the end of the month.

I take my car across because I go to TJ on business, I'm not bringing it back to the USA and then taking a taxi to AB. The parking lot guy knows my car now and he takes care of me when I show up (and I of course take care of him).

We'll do our best to stay away from the sleazy Mexican prostitutes and seedy TJ bars.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

The Wizard

12-29-03, 07:00

Getting Tang,

You're right about being suspicious about other posters on these boards. I've also noticed a few strange posters and I've received a few private messages of questionable origin. But as far as being soliciting prostitutes in other countries I don't think the law works that way.

I know there is a law that says it is illegal to engage in sex with a minor in other countries (paid or not). But I don't think it applies to prostitution itself (where it's legal). I mean, I can drive to a brothel in a Nevada ranch were prostitution is legal and I would not be breaking a law would I?

I would never take a car into TJ, unless I was driving through to Rosarito or Ensenada. I've also read stories about drug traffikers planting stuff in cars. NEVER have your car repaired, upholstery, or windows tinted in TJ. It might be cheaper but people have been burned.

By the way. Does anyone know of a group we can join that is trying to legalize prostitution? I don't mean a political group (libertarian etc..) but an actual ACLU type group?

Dosequis

12-29-03, 08:53

This stuff is starting to get really old. It's a shame that a newbie will have to read through some of the crap to judge what is real and what is not. If someone wants to be judged for real posts, post real hard facts. I would suspect that a couple of the combatants are possibly some of the guys who have been making stuff up on other boards as well. I would suggest guys be very careful when giving up their anonymity. If CJ is truly serious he should PM other guys and provide his phone number. Personally, I do and prefer TJ solo.

The famous Tania is actually supposed to be around 46. She doesn't look it but she's at least 44-46. There is another Tania in AB who is very quiet and fits the description, although she is slightly taller. We actually call her Tania II, but I've never heard of her gving BBBJ's or doing outcall, so it's probably not her. She has also worked in AB for at least seven years and looks very young but is probably 24-26. She hasn't been in AB for the last 2-3 months.

Amis

12-29-03, 10:09

I neither know GT nor CJ but I would agree with GT actually. I don't see any need to talk to anyone in TJ you don't know other than the Chicas! You don't really need anyone in TJ to get a Chica. I have been going to TJ for over 1 1/2 years now and even spend nights there. All by myself, don't speak Spanish and I'm neither Gringo / Spanish / Asian and I have never had any problem.

Why not meet communicate with CJ via PM first, exchange phone numbers and then meet in TJ if you feel comfortable? I would never just meet with anyone blindly without knowing who the person was. I think if you met CJ at AD or CC and had good vibes then no problem but blindly? What is wrong with some people?

Greenlee

12-29-03, 17:40

Hey just womdering if there was any younger guys that report to this forum. I'm only 23 and have been to TJ once so far, but plan to go back again soon.

Pokey

12-29-03, 23:22

I tried hard, but I had to abort "Operation Army of One", oh well there is always next time. I hear TJ is still a little dead due to holidays. God I can't get my mind off "J" the skinny nice tits girl with those high black boots!!!

One of my new year resolutions is to stop reading C.J. postings, and commenting on them. I or we are turning him into some kind of "James Bond" guy. I sure he loves it.

Hey, but its not the new year, so I wrote a little piece on CJ, in the Opinions Prostitution & law enforcement section on this forum. So those of you tired of hearing about this crap don't go there.

Country John

12-30-03, 05:24

Members, I posted a cheat sheet in the AB forum that lists the chicas mentioned in prior posts on the same forum, I found all the info very helpful and decided to put it in one post as a courtesy for those of you who had to put up with the long winded posts from me this year.

Special thanks to the members who got names etc, especially MFoo.

Looks like I might make TJ next week, say around thursday during the day, hitting the alley about noon, getting out by 5. Anyone else planning a trip next week?

I'm planning on hitting the Alley for sure, and AB for a beer. I'm staying away from the other clubs until the deputies are assembled and I do the all nighter probably around the end of January.

Now Poki, Jackson moved your flamin' ass to another forum with those silly mindless dribbles of yours that seem to come so easy to you.

Be safe and BE NICE.
Country John

PS: I'm getting one of those spy pen cameras (sorta like JAMES BOND- I've been feeling kinda like him lately, don't know why but jeez it feels neato) so I can get some pics for the forum.

Frijole

12-30-03, 08:16

Hey Guys,

C.J.

I live in TJ and am a Mexican National. You seem like a decent guy so let me know when you will be around AB or Chicago so that I can say hello (pm me if you like). I know a frew of the other members on this board (chuponalgas), all basically good guys. I'll ask them if they want to meet you too. As for the other nuts on this board, what can I say, except some people need to get a life. Ha!Ha!

To All Members, here is my report:
Went to CC on the 19th did not see much. But, I made dew with a girl from Culiacan (20yrs old told me her name was Sonia). She charged the usual $60 and was very nice and not a bad lay. I do give her a thumbs up! I would consider doing her again. Went to Mermaids but had to leave, it was just too dark, and I was not able to get a good look at any of the girls there. Anyone know here ever get services at Mermaids? Please give details.

Need Info.:
Also, has anyone visited the Massage Parlor on Revolution called Paris De Noche (across the street from Jai Ali, on Revolucion and Galeana)? I went there about 2 months ago and left because, the quality was poor at best. They had 2 fat chicks who were old enough to be my mother. Hell, I think one might have been my !#$%. Ha!Ha! All kidding aside, has anyone been there recently. Please give details. I am interested in visitinga massage parlor this week about 2-3pm. Let me know.

Thanks!

Explorer8939

12-30-03, 08:33

TJ on Sunday and Monday nights:

Street Girls were out in full force, lots of chicas. Some of the bars got pretty dead later on Sunday night, but not all.

Spotted a new SG wearing a schoolgirl getup. Very nice, but I was otherwise occupied.

Did a SG Sunday night who asked that I take her to a movie on Monday afternoon, which led to dinner, which led to ..............

Country John

12-30-03, 17:20

Frijole:

You need to activate your Private Mail Box so I can PM you. I'd love to hook up with a local! I'm trying to get to TJ on Thursday NEXT WEEK for a few hours of fun in the sun. When you get your PM working, PM me so we can hook up.

As for the others you mentioned, I think we know all we need to know about them. I'm still waiting for GT to post the list of ID's that I am apparently using that he found with his special software. There is nothing worse than a liar. You just can't trust anything they say.

I'd like to know a little more about the girls that stand outside and up the hill from the alley. I saw a couple of nice looking ladies last time and there is apparently one with a jacuzzi or something? Do you know anything about them? I have only a few precious pops to spare so I'd like some intel if possible.

Get back to me man. Gracias!

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Travlr

12-30-03, 20:35

Report for first timers in TJ from a first timer:
There is too much worthless garbage on this site from the locals. I read the last 4 pages and set off on Monday late AM.
Here is the straight and simple. Now my Spanish is bad but I have a lot of experience in Mexico and other places but anybody should be able to have a good time here without a guide. Just politely say no gracious to the hustle boys who want to show you the bars or anything else. They will drop off and go to someone else.
Trolley to TJ. It stops at the border, get off and walk up winding bridge and over highway. Look for St Louis type arch, walk that way. It is a ten minute walk at most so why would you pay a cab? The walk is through a couple of squares A.K.A. tourist traps, very safe but expect to be asked to go to the pharmacies or have a drink in the cantinas. When you get to the arch pass by it and take the first street to the right. There is two blocks of hotels with girls standing out front. I looked on both sides and found Monica, who I thought was far and away the best looking and who had a pleasant smile. $20 for 15 minutes + 5 for the room and we are up the stairs. The room was better than I expected, A flush toilet that worked! With an actual toilet paper dispenser with a roll in it!!! This does not happen often in other border towns, one usually has to bring ones own paper. Monica tried to get 20 more for an additional 30 minutes. Know however that most ALL Street Girls (SG on this site) all over the world have a simple rule on time, it is pro rated to when you cum no matter the price or time negotiated. We did settle on 5 more for sin ropa (nude) however, she wanted 10 more but I pled poverty and had a 5 in my hand which she finally took and stripped to reveal a damn nice body. Unless you just want to look at her bod, you do not have to pay more, for 20 they will CFS but you see no tits. No oral at all, she just worked me with her hand until I was stiff and then applied condom and she mounted me cowgirl style. After a couple of minutes she asked if I wanted doggie but I like it this way so she bounced until complettion. She rinsed off and was out of there in under 3 minutes leaving me still half dressed.
I walked around a few blocks on all sides of this area (half an hour), then went to Adelitas Bar. It is in the same area, one block west. I just sat down when Yvonne approached and we talked for a couple of minutes (the ol border Spanglish, I know a little more Spanish than they do English and it works together) Then we were off to the room next door, no beer $0 spent in Adelitas. $11 for the room this time but it is a better room replete with mirror on the bed. 50 for Yvonne and she stayed the full 30 minutes. GOOD CBJ and sex in 4 positions before I shuddered to a halt. Yvonne rinsed then sat on the bed and talked a little until we were both ready to go. Walked back and stood in the line to cross the border when a guy tried to rent me a bicycle for $5 to avoid "the line, its 2 hours" Wrong, the line is 10 minutes and the 5 dollar bike would have only saved five minutes.

All in all go with trust in your safety on this main path, have fun and do not get concerned over saying no to the upselling.

Explorer8939

12-30-03, 22:03

New Years in TJ: one place to be is right by the Arch, apparently there's a big celebration planned there, big screen TV, the street is blocked to traffic. Could be fun.

Lee Bog

12-30-03, 22:15

frijole,

i've peeked into many mp's in tj & i believe the best selection & number of girls is in deja vu. paris de noche is on one end of the strip, deja vu is way over on the other end. it's a couple blocks past 1st street. since you're a native you can probably find it.

if you make it that way at night, can you see if paty is there? i haven't seen her in awhile. i think she just had a baby. short, skinny (before pregnancy of course),dark skin, black hair to shoulders. she was so hot. may not be your style, but there were plenty to choose from in november. expensive for an hour 40 to mp, 100 to girl. again as you're native, maybe you can get a better deal.

Lee Bog

12-31-03, 02:20

Hello All, I have a question.

If LE meets up with you here in the US, then he witnesses you pick up an SG etc in TJ to do the deed, are you in trouble with the law when you get back in the US?

Does someone have any knowledge about this?
Thanks in advance.

Immortal

12-31-03, 02:22

Greenlee,

I was wondering the same thing myself. I'm 23 too and have been going to Tj since June of this year after I found this forum. I've been there about 8 times since then. I usually go with a buddy or two mostly on Saturday nights since we all work. Let me know the next time you planning a trip and if I can make it the first rounds on me.

Explorer8939

12-31-03, 16:35

you are not in trouble. if this were the case, all those guys who pay $1000 for 30 minutes in nevada brothels would be easy bait. bottom line: having sex with a working girl in the zona is legally tolerated in mexico, and not actionable in the usa .... unless the girl is under 18 and you leave the usa with documented intent to have sex with a minor (ie there is a paper trail that indicates that's what you are looking for).

in fact, i know us le that monger in the zona for their own enjoyment.

there is nothing that us le can do to the average monger in tj, except arrest you for speeding or dui after you cross the border.

"if le meets up with you here in the us, then he witnesses you pick up an sg etc in tj to do the deed, are you in trouble with the law when you get back in the us?"

Plain White Guy

12-31-03, 17:27

Greenlee, Immortal,

I'm in that age range also, would love to meet up with you guys. PM me.

SD Pierced

Catfish

12-31-03, 20:44

Frijole,

I visited that MP you're talking about a couple weeks ago, on a Saturday morning after a night of partying. There were two girls available and niether was great but I took the one with the perkier breasts (which dropped a little once they came out of the wonderbra). I was extremely low on cash but she seemed ready for action as she started undressing as I was counting my loot to see how much I had. Turned out I only had $55 (without breaking into the emergency fund) and by the time I handed it to her, her pussy was very near my face so I dove in. She seemed to enjoy my skills and was soon on her back on the leather couch. I must have ate that pussy for 20 minutes when she said, "cojer me!" We never really discussed the details, just started going for it. I asked her if she had a condom and she said it was under the towel on the massage table. Her pussy was quite loose which I already knew since I had been banging her easily with two fingers and could have used three. She was really wet. I probably could have probed her ass, judging from her body language. She was offering it by pulling her legs up high behind her ears but I couldn't justify coating my fingers with her ass juices. I was already taking quite a risk lapping up her pussy for so long. We fucked heartily in mish but I had to slam her real hard to get full sensation since she was wonga. Interestingly, she told me not to put the condom in the trash. She flushed it down the toilet instead, which I thought strange since my understanding has been that the plumbing down there, in some places, is not conducive to paper, let alone latex. Or at least I thought. We were headed for the shower but it was occupied. I waited 'cause she really made a mess of things being so wet. Unfortunately the water was cold. But hey, for $95 I got to eat some tasty pussy and do some finger play with an enjoyable bang afterwards. I'll go back but I'll bring more money next time just to be sure I get the full menu. BJ was never offered and I'm sure it was the lack of cash.

$40 for 1 hour (which I undercut myself by popping early)
$55 for DATY and FS

Lee Bog

12-31-03, 23:59

Re: Deja Vu

There were quite a few voluptuous ones, that was in November. But I like the slim ones so I can't really recommend any with big tits. She'll probably wash up outside for a few minutes after, as the bathroom is outside the room. Then she'll come back either before, or when time's up, depends on the girl. Of the times I've gone, the girls do stay for the hour.

The hour is usually divided into massage & extra service, the order & length of each is up to you. You may be able to negotiate a pop before & after the massage (I never tried it). Or maybe you can tell them forget the massage to lower the price. The madam always says $40/hr. I don't know if they offer half hr. Anyone here know?

MP girls always seem to expect high amounts for their service. Maybe that's why there's so many girls that like to work at Deja Vu. Maybe they All agree to ask for $100 off the bat. Maybe it's the hot MP these days & the mongers are just too willing to pay that much. But the good thing is you can sit down first & talk to the girls before making a decision. You can try to put them at ease & negotiate. I think $70 for the girl's hr is closer to being fair since some of them don't even give a decent massage. There are so many, if you're willing to talk to several, you're bound to find 1 that you can agree with, depends on how flexible your standards are. You can always come back later too.

$140 is a lot to spend to see if you're gonna get a good girl. Jasmin was alright, young, pretty, slim, may not be as voluptuous as you want though.