Crime, Safety, and the Police

[DramaFree11]

A couple self employed tijauna fri2 nds said they don't get unemployment like we do. They likelybwont be seeing a stimulus check either. At some point, I'm not a economics person, but I'm asuming governments all around the world can't pay their citizens to sit home, so all those people are going to have to become uber eats drivers and those jobs never return. For years till corona is gone or countries will just say "the hell with it everyone go back to school and work we will have to lose a few million people per country". Mexico probably caves 1st, usa 2nd, europe 3rd, . Out of those 3 areas. I don't follow the rest of the world so much. So likely, we will be chugging tecates like there's no tomorrow
in hong kong, before bars are open in the states.... But yes one would have to assume crime is about to go through the roof in all countries as people dont have money and have too much free time, look what's happening in the states, the cops are out of work due to corona, prisoners released, they said dont call 911Agree 100%, except for the part of Millions dying. We need to get back to work ASAP, isolate the areas that have large outbreaks, the rest of us need to get back daily activities. Also agree, Mexico will gave first.

[RickyVee]

I go back and forth to Tijuana in the financial district a few times per week. Although there is less people on the street, I have noticed more of a police presence in certain areas. Honestly I am more concerned about getting robed by the police than a ratero these days. If you drive down there watch for blind stop signs at intersections cops are lying in wait for gringos with American tags to shake down because you failed to see a stop sign or turn against a red light. Less American tourists so less chance for the cops to rob Americans. Use good judgement as always and after the sun goes down I would not be roaming the streets after 9 PM. It's only matter of time before the cops start to really get desperate and turn up the heat. My guess would be within the next couple weeks you are about to see an uptick in police shakedowns in or around the zona. If you need to visit taxi or walk in with minimal amount of cash and have a hotel room setup and try to get an appointment with your chica before hand so that way she comes to your room instead of trolling the alley.


Has anyone noticed a increase in crime in the Zona since the Coronavirus started. ? Just wondering because since there is less people around the bandito's might be more active. ? The other factor is that since the bars are close the there probably less private security around as well.

[Hargow20]

Have the police been enforcing the curfew much. ?


I go back and forth to Tijuana in the financial district a few times per week. Although there is less people on the street, I have noticed more of a police presence in certain areas. Honestly I am more concerned about getting robed by the police than a ratero these days. If you drive down there watch for blind stop signs at intersections cops are lying in wait for gringos with American tags to shake down because you failed to see a stop sign or turn against a red light. Less American tourists so less chance for the cops to rob Americans. Use good judgement as always and after the sun goes down I would not be roaming the streets after 9 PM. It's only matter of time before the cops start to really get desperate and turn up the heat. My guess would be within the next couple weeks you are about to see an uptick in police shakedowns in or around the zona. If you need to visit taxi or walk in with minimal amount of cash and have a hotel room setup and try to get an appointment with your chica before hand so that way she comes to your room instead of trolling the alley.

[Dickus Maximus]

I go back and forth to Tijuana in the financial district a few times per week. Although there is less people on the street, I have noticed more of a police presence in certain areas. Honestly I am more concerned about getting robed by the police than a ratero these days. If you drive down there watch for blind stop signs at intersections cops are lying in wait for gringos with American tags to shake down because you failed to see a stop sign or turn against a red light. Less American tourists so less chance for the cops to rob Americans. Use good judgement as always and after the sun goes down I would not be roaming the streets after 9 PM. It's only matter of time before the cops start to really get desperate and turn up the heat. My guess would be within the next couple weeks you are about to see an uptick in police shakedowns in or around the zona. If you need to visit taxi or walk in with minimal amount of cash and have a hotel room setup and try to get an appointment with your chica before hand so that way she comes to your room instead of trolling the alley.And any difficulty crossing the border going to Tijuana? Do you need a good reason, or they DGAF?

[ClamSlammer]

Have the police been enforcing the curfew much. ?I've seen no evidence of any curfew and I'm down here 24/7.


And any difficulty crossing the border going to Tijuana? Do you need a good reason, or they DGAF?Driving in is business as usual. Walking in they zap your temperature at Otay. SY I'm not sure. Driving back into SY no hassle more than usual.

[Hargow20]

Just heard that the police are enforcing lockdown & the curfew. This info is from a friend that lives in the Zona..Going to the Zona makes you a easy target for the police. There was also a article that said that a lot of working running out of money because the crisis. Supposedly many of the girls are homeless now. I was down about 2 weeks ago. Just glad that I went down before lockdown.



I've seen no evidence of any curfew and I'm down here 24/7.

Driving in is business as usual. Walking in they zap your temperature at Otay. SY I'm not sure. Driving back into SY no hassle more than usual.

[BodyAnybody]

Just heard that the police are enforcing lockdown & the curfew. This info is from a friend that lives in the Zona..Going to the Zona makes you a easy target for the police. There was also a article that said that a lot of working running out of money because the crisis. Supposedly many of the girls are homeless now. I was down about 2 weeks ago. Just glad that I went down before lockdown.This makes me sad. I hope the girls get through this OK. I have a regular who I have been seeing for some time and I'm taking care of her during this, but I'm guessing most girls aren't so lucky.

[Hargow20]

My guess is that most of the SG's are doing okay. A lot of the SG's family ine south part of Mexico. So they will probably stay there until things improve. The walkers are the ones who will have probems surviving. A lot of them have warrants so heading back to the US is not a option. So the SW; s will have probems finding customers. I am hoping the the police are not cracking down to much on shelter in place. I may head to Tijuana once I get more info on what the situation is like in the Zona.


This makes me sad. I hope the girls get through this OK. I have a regular who I have been seeing for some time and I'm taking care of her during this, but I'm guessing most girls aren't so lucky.

[Hargow20]

I was doing some more research and thankfully there is no curfew in Mexico. There is however a obligatory health curfew. It is the same where people are only allowed to go out for food etc. The main thing is to avoid gathering & social distancing. There was some reports yesterday that people are still walking around. So it appears that Mexico does not appear to be actively enforcing it.

(https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/covid-19-phase-3-strategy/).

Pedwest is closing on Sunday.

(https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/story/2020-04-04/pedwest-crossing-temporarily-closed-as-part-of-changes-at-the-california-mexico-border).

[ClamSlammer]

Just heard that the police are enforcing lockdown & the curfew.You heard wrong. I've been out and about in Tijuana the whole time and I'm telling you there is no evidence of any curfew. I went to Soriana Wednesday night at 9:30 pm just before closing. I drove through the Zona tonight at 10 pm. There were plenty of cops and cars and people walking around. Not as much as usual but there were still people walking and driving around. Tijuana is enforcing social distancing measures though. Restaurants now are either closed or takeout only. Stores are limiting the amount of persons who can enter. Many stores are closing early. Stores are displaying social distancing guidelines, especially where lines form. Most people are wearing masks. Many of the Zona SW's would probably see a boost to business when wearing a mask.

[Hargow20]

Read my prior post. I specifically said there is no curfew. !!


You heard wrong. I've been out and about in Tijuana the whole time and I'm telling you there is no evidence of any curfew. I went to Soriana Wednesday night at 9:30 pm just before closing. I drove through the Zona tonight at 10 pm. There were plenty of cops and cars and people walking around. Not as much as usual but there were still people walking and driving around. Tijuana is enforcing social distancing measures though. Restaurants now are either closed or takeout only. Stores are limiting the amount of persons who can enter. Many stores are closing early. Stores are displaying social distancing guidelines, especially where lines form. Most people are wearing masks. Many of the Zona SW's would probably see a boost to business when wearing a mask.

[ScatManDoo]

From Wikipedia:

Authorities are concerned about supermarket robberies. A gang of 70 people robbed a grocery store in Tecmac, State of Mexico, on March 23, and a gang of 30 looted a supermarket in Oaxaca City on March 24. Calls for supermarket looting, warning of food shortages, are making the rounds of social media. Four such social media groups in Tijuana were broken up in Baja California on 29 March. The number of murders has not decreased due to the coronavirus pandemic, and drug cartels are fighting each other in Guerrero and Michoacan.

On April 14, Jos Luis Calderand, vice president of the Mexican Association of Private Security Companies (AMESP), commenting on the increase of crime, told El Informador: "Taking advantage of the COVID-19 crisis, there have been opportunistic people who have sought to loot and have tried to carry out robberies. We know that cell phones, household appliances, liquor, cigarettes and merchandise that are not essential items have been stolen."

Travel restrictions are making it more difficult for Mexican drug cartels to operate, because chemicals from China, which are the raw materials for synthesizing illegal drugs, cannot be imported. As a result, the price of illegal methamphetamine has increased from 2,500 pesos (95/$102) to 15,000 pesos per pound. Cartels are also struggling to smuggle drugs across the border to the United States, where many customers live, because border crossings have been shut down. The reduction in international air travel has made it easier for authorities to track planes used for transporting illegal drugs.

[ScatManDoo]

Mexico entered Phase 3 of its contingency plan on April 21.712 deaths and 8,772 confirmed cases were reported. The Mexico City General Hospital delivered the wrong body to the widow of ngel Dorado Salinas, 52. She discovered the mistake when she saw a photograph of the corpse.

Recently it has come to media attention that the Mexican drug cartels, in an effort to boost their own popularity and in response to poor efforts by the Mexican presidency, have been distributing supplies to impoverished citizens in the street. The president of Mexico has since called on the cartels to stop distributing supplies and "end violence" instead.

The number of coronavirus cases surges past 10,000 to 10,544 with 970 deaths on April 21.

Six people were arrested in San Pedro Tlaquepaque and Tlajomulco de Ziga, Jalisco, for violating the state's quarantine orders on April 22. Another six people were denied permission to enter the state. Two women were arrested in Quertaro for attacking a health worker. They face up to three years in prison and a fine of 24,644 pesos (US $977). A field hospital with 854 beds is inaugurated in Mexico City; it should be fully operational on June 1.

On April 26, the Mexican Council of Businessmen (CMN) and IDB Invest announce a US $12 billion plan to provide credit to 30,000 micro-, small, and medium-sized industries. AMLO opposes the plan, likening it to Fobaproa, the 1995 bank-rescue plan that cost taxpayers billions. PAN supports the plan.

The death toll surpassed the 1,000 figure on April 23. Tijuana expects its hospitals to run out of space over the weekend.

On April 29, eight public and three private hospitals in Mexico City stopped accepting COVID-19 patients due to a lack of space and ventilators. Mexico City Head of Government Claudia Scheinbaum said there were 54 hospitals with 1,500 beds available. On the same day, Iaki Landburu, president of the National Association of Wholesale Grocers (ANAM), threatened to stop the supermarkets' supply chain in the State of Mexico, Tabasco, Guerrero, Morelos, and Veracruz if safety measure are not enforced and if they are not provided with safety on highways. Landburu said he believes food trucks are robbed by the organized crime who then redistribute the food for free in an attempt to demonstrate a false sense of solidarity among the population.

[ScatManDoo]

The death toll surpassed the 1,000 figure on April 23. Tijuana expects its hospitals to run out of space over the weekend.That was a very long post that I made yesterday. If I could draw your attention to one line, that's the one.

[Chator]

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/couple-arrested-in-kidnap-for-ransom-scheme-involving-southern-california-victims/2365026/

[Captain Solo]

Don't know why these guys had to go with a pregnant woman in Tijuana during the CoVid19 lock down.

These criminals are amateurs to come to the US to pick up ransoms. That makes it scarier as there may be a lot of amateurs in Tijuana out trying to kidnap Gringos for small change.

Couple Arrested in Kidnapping scheme of SoCal men.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/n...ctims/2365026/

[BodyAnybody]

That was a very long post that I made yesterday. If I could draw your attention to one line, that's the one.We all saw it the first time, so quoting your own post was pointless.

Like I've already said, you are free to lock yourself in, have necessities shipped to you, and spend all day reading pandemic news while you quiver in terror, dude.

[StRobert]

Don't know why these guys had to go with a pregnant woman in Tijuana during the CoVid19 lock down.

These criminals are amateurs to come to the US to pick up ransoms. That makes it scarier as there may be a lot of amateurs in Tijuana out trying to kidnap Gringos for small change.

Couple Arrested in Kidnapping scheme of SoCal men.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/n...ctims/2365026/I am surprised that criminals from Tijuana could have entered the USA. For a Mexican citizen, a visa is not easy to receive. He must have a detailed interview with CBP, guaranteed work in San Diego county, clean criminal record and visa fee for something about $ 200 US (not refundable if he does not get a visa). About several thousand people from Tijuana go to work in San Diego county every morning (mainly red trolley) and return to Tijuana in the evening and there is no problem with them. They work hard, earn US dollars and have no criminal record. They can only work 25 or 30 miles from the border no further.

[Dogers69]

Don't know why these guys had to go with a pregnant woman in Tijuana during the CoVid19 lock down.

These criminals are amateurs to come to the US to pick up ransoms. That makes it scarier as there may be a lot of amateurs in Tijuana out trying to kidnap Gringos for small change.

Couple Arrested in Kidnapping scheme of SoCal men.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/n...ctims/2365026/The woman arested is from USA. I read few other articles the european news sites always have more info than we get in USA for some reason. Essentially, it's at least 3 dead gringo men, at least 2 stayed at the hotel they were kidnapped in, so crime of opportunity. "Oh look we got some gringo men over here, we don't even have to leave the hotel to kidnap a gringo". The 1 guy who lived, was saved by mexican author because they already had location it sounded like of the kidnappers, 9 were found in the room, they had the location due to researching the 1st two kidnapped. The way kidnapping goes in mexico, nobody ever gets released even if ransom is paid. It's a sad way to go, basically stick to Hong Kong and adelitas hotels or extremely high end like mariot in my opinion.

[Captain Solo]

Dodgers69 gave us some good details on these recent kidnaps in Tijuana.

After 2 months of CoVid-19 lock down, people get hungry, angry and desperate. Stupid criminals and even normal people will think and try desperate crimes to fill their stomachs. Dodgers is right, few if any kidnap victims ever get released. To these criminals with nothing to lose, it's easier to pump a few bullets into the victims than fearing being identified later.

The loser-mongers, who are even afraid of HK's meseros, keep knocking bars like HK, but they spend a lot of money, employ a lot of people working security to assure the safety of their clients and to protect the reputation of their businesses. I spotted El Chapo's son Ovidio hang out in HK one night, ogling hot chicas by himself without bodyguards. He must think HK is as secured as Ft. Knox hehe.

It's well worth paying a little extra for drinks and tips to hang out and have sexy fun with hot chicas in a safe, relaxed environment. HK's security guys work hard, risking their lives for pittance. Don't be too cheap. Tip them a few bucks to show friendship and to encourage them in their risky jobs. Also generously tip hot strippers, dancers and sweet new girls to encourage them to show up to work. It's comparatively cheap and lots of fun to buy HK's sweet girls a few fichas and make out with them in the club.

[DramaFree11]

Dodgers69 gave us some good details on these recent kidnaps in Tijuana.

After 2 months of CoVid-19 lock down, people get hungry, angry and desperate. Stupid criminals and even normal people will think and try desperate crimes to fill their stomachs. Dodgers is right, few if any kidnap victims ever get released. To these criminals with nothing to lose, it's easier to pump a few bullets into the victims than fearing being identified later.

The loser-mongers, who are even afraid of HK's meseros, keep knocking bars like HK, but they spend a lot of money, employ a lot of people working security to assure the safety of their clients and to protect the reputation of their businesses. I spotted El Chapo's son Ovidio hang out in HK one night, ogling hot chicas by himself without bodyguards. He must think HK is as secured as Ft. Knox hehe.

It's well worth paying a little extra for drinks and tips to hang out and have sexy fun with hot chicas in a safe, relaxed environment. HK's security guys work hard, risking their lives for pittance. Don't be too cheap. Tip them a few bucks to show friendship and to encourage them in their risky jobs. Also generously tip hot strippers, dancers and sweet new girls to encourage them to show up to work. It's comparatively cheap and lots of fun to buy HK's sweet girls a few fichas and make out with them in the club.I could not agree more, well said. I miss HK so much.

I have been looking at flights, but of course the airlines have raised there prices, so I am going to make MTY my home base, screw the airlines, I can just drive to MTY.

[LuvMexicanas]

I could not agree more, well said. I miss HK so much.

I have been looking at flights, but of course the airlines have raised there prices, so I am going to make MTY my home base, screw the airlines, I can just drive to MTY.Weren't you the guy telling us a couple months ago that we're insane to travel into Mexico with the virus spreading rapidly and that it wasn't worth the risk? That was a couple months ago and the virus is much worse now south of the border.

[Jinxx]

I got word from a fellow monger whose phone was stolen from his room at Hotel San Nicolas on Madero. It was stolen from his room with the door locked which makes me think it was most likely hotel staff who took it. I think he left it charging in the room while he was downstairs probably getting something to eat. He said he notified the front desk people and they didn't seem to care or be of any assistance.

I'm trying to figure out a way to get revenge on that place for stealing a brother's phone. I think I'm going to get the loudest screaming chica I can find (or maybe two) and get a room there for a night, then just have the loudest fuckfest that my energy and stamina will allow.(the walls in those hotels are paper thin) All night until I pass out then a couple times in the morning before checkout. And I'll be sure to mention to the staff "hey I hear there's a lot of theft going on here. Some dirty lowlife rateros stole my buddy's phone out of his locked room". Basically the plan is to make them feel very very uncomfortable. .

[Artisttyp]

I got word from a fellow monger whose phone was stolen from his room at Hotel San Nicolas on Madero. It was stolen from his room with the door locked which makes me think it was most likely hotel staff who took it. I think he left it charging in the room while he was downstairs probably getting something to eat. He said he notified the front desk people and they didn't seem to care or be of any assistance.

I'm trying to figure out a way to get revenge on that place for stealing a brother's phone. I think I'm going to get the loudest screaming chica I can find (or maybe two) and get a room there for a night, then just have the loudest fuckfest that my energy and stamina will allow.(the walls in those hotels are paper thin) All night until I pass out then a couple times in the morning before checkout. And I'll be sure to mention to the staff "hey I hear there's a lot of theft going on here. Some dirty lowlife rateros stole my buddy's phone out of his locked room". Basically the plan is to make them feel very very uncomfortable. .A notorious hotel for polleros and shady people. I am not surprised.

[ClamSlammer]

I'm trying to figure out a way to get revenge on that place for stealing a brother's phone. I think I'm going to get the loudest screaming chica I can find (or maybe two) and get a room there for a night, then just have the loudest fuckfest that my energy and stamina will allow.That's not revenge, man. You want revenge? You cause some real damage. And the kind that they won't notice until days after you're long gone so you won't have problems at checkout. I don't want to get into specifics but remember the episode of Seinfeld when Jerry and Kramer decide to exact revenge on the laundromat?

[LuvMexicanas]

A notorious hotel for polleros and shady people. I am not surprised.Nor am I. There are times to try new things and be creative, but when it comes to Tijuana hotels, it's best to stick to what's worked for yourself and others. There is wisdom in crowds. I use various travel websites to get very reasonably priced rooms at Ticuan ($65-70) and Espana ($40-45). Both are safe, clean and escort friendly. Ticuan as a favorite among those who hobby is well chronicled in the Tijuana threads. If I'm in an Adelitas and paraditas frame of mind, I'll get a third floor room at Hotel Coahuila especially when it's just $20 a night M-W. I can also throw escorts into the mix as some agencies and indies provide service in Zona Norte. I've never had an issue at all three properties so if it ain't broke, I see no need to fix it.

[Phordphan]

I got word from a fellow monger whose phone was stolen from his room at Hotel San Nicolas on Madero. It was stolen from his room with the door locked which makes me think it was most likely hotel staff who took it. I think he left it charging in the room while he was downstairs probably getting something to eat. He said he notified the front desk people and they didn't seem to care or be of any assistance.

I'm trying to figure out a way to get revenge on that place for stealing a brother's phone. I think I'm going to get the loudest screaming chica I can find (or maybe two) and get a room there for a night, then just have the loudest fuckfest that my energy and stamina will allow.(the walls in those hotels are paper thin) All night until I pass out then a couple times in the morning before checkout. And I'll be sure to mention to the staff "hey I hear there's a lot of theft going on here. Some dirty lowlife rateros stole my buddy's phone out of his locked room". Basically the plan is to make them feel very very uncomfortable. .You lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. These dumps have shitty reputations for a reason.

[Dogers69]

I don't leave cell charging in any hotel in USA. That's asking for problems. I know wealthy people who steal it's a adiction, adrenaline rush. We had a guy in our dorm once completely normal that was stealing. Alot of people steal. When in mexico the things in my room nobody would want. Maybe a cell phone charger is the only thing of value. I also leave 2 bucks on table so I don't get left without my 10 dollar bag If someone feels need to steal.

[Artisttyp]

If I'm in an Adelitas and paraditas frame of mind, I'll get a third floor room at Hotel Coahuila especially when it's just $20 a night M-W.I never knew they were $20 on weekdays. Do they charge you per visitor if you stay the night? Noisy Heat / AC?

Thanks.

[LuvMexicanas]

I never knew they were $20 on weekdays. Do they charge you per visitor if you stay the night? Noisy Heat / AC?

Thanks.It's not $20 all weekdays just M-W. I always pay the $5 key deposit because I don't want some dude with his hand out looking for a tip each time I need my room unlocked. Third floor rooms are basic but functional. I brought up chicas and had escorts show up to my room with zero issues or extra charges. Just be sure to get a third floor room or higher so you have some peace and quiet and also avoid the high mileage short time rooms on the lower floors.

[Dogers69]

I never knew they were $20 on weekdays. Do they charge you per visitor if you stay the night? Noisy Heat / AC?

Thanks.Adelitas is fairly easy to get the room Monday Tuesday. Wensday because hk is not discounted it's much tougher. Temp wise I was comfortable good shower. Only main difference than hk hotel is sheets look worse. Sometimes no sheet pillow cases just the dark fabric ones that. Normally are just for looks. Anyway I always bring pillow case and one sheet I can sleep in the sheet like sleeping bag to. NOt touch very much. I use clothes in the pillow case as my pillow and bring thin travel towell. I became germaphobe a year before coronavirus. Anyway the staff at adelitas hotel has always been cool to deal with. It's also only 5 bucks security.

[KC Questor]

I never knew they were $20 on weekdays. Do they charge you per visitor if you stay the night? Noisy Heat / AC?As LuvMexicanas says, it's just M-W that the rooms are $20. If you pay in pesos it's even less now with the exchange rate. So M-W it's almost cheaper to get the room for the full night versus just 30 minutes. There is no extra charge for multiple visitors. Rooms near the stairs are loudest, both because you can hear the AC unit on the roof. Rooms do not have their own AC (the unit on the roof is for the club, not the hotel). Rooms can be stifling during the day, as they have no windows. The rooms with windows are suites and reserved for short-time guests -- they also look out on Calle Coahuila so would be noisy. I like rooms in the back corner, 310-314 are good. They are away from the stairs so you are less likely to hear girls' tacones on the tile floor as they come and go with short-time guests.


Just be sure to get a third floor room or higher so you have some peace and quiet and also avoid the high mileage short time rooms on the lower floors.It would be hard to get rooms any higher than the third floor, as that's the top! Unless you want to sleep on the roof, I guess. : the.

[Artisttyp]

World.

Mexico president kicks off 'new normal' phase amid pandemic.

DAN CHRISTIAN ROJAS and MARIA VERZA.

Associated PressJune 1, 2020,8:03 AM PDT.


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Virus Outbreak Mexico.


CANCUN, Mexico (AP) Amid a pandemic and a brewing tropical storm, Mexico President Andrs Manuel Lpez Obrador kicked off Mexico's return to a "new normal" Monday with his first road trip in two months as the nation began to gradually ease some virus-inspired restrictions.

Lpez Obrador said he's taking all necessary precautions he drove the 1,000 miles from Mexico City over the weekend rather than flying on a trip to promote construction of one of his signature infrastructure projects the Mayan Train.

While the federal government's nationwide social distancing rule formally ended Monday, it is urging people in so-called "red" zones to maintain most of those measures and so many people are falling ill and dying each day that those zones cover nearly the whole country.

Mexico is nearing 100,000 confirmed infections and has topped 10,000 deaths, but those official tallies are considered to be undercounts.

Mexican officials said last week that more than 5,000 companies had implemented protocols that would allow them to reopen this week. The federal government had cleared businesses in the mining, construction and auto manufacturing sectors to resume operations.

While in Cancun, the president was also talking up what local officials hope is the quick return of tourists. Mexico's most popular beach destination officially plans to reopen next week albeit with social distancing restrictions such as a ban on buffets. Quintana Roo Gov. Carlos Manuel Joaquand Gonzalez said they've already started receiving reservations.

But around Cancun, nothing appeared normal yet. The beaches were empty, bars and restaurants remained closed. Locals walked around wearing masks and traffic was light. The dramatic drop of international air travel and April 1 closure of Cancun's beaches left thousands unemployed.

Cancun resident Andres Jose Conrado said maybe his city could reopen in a few months, but it was more important to continue with the health precautions.

"I say it's very early (to reopen)," Conrado said, a cloth mask over his nose and mouth. "For now I say it's not necessary. ".

But Sergio Ortega Jara, another resident who is out of work, said they need to get jobs back. He conceded that the virus was a real danger, but insisted people need income. "It's kind of bad, there's no work," Ortega said.

In Mexico City, traffic has increased significantly in the past week. In some neighborhoods foot traffic had hardly ever diminished. Mexico City Mayor Claudia Sheinbaum urged residents via Twitter on Monday to stay at home if it wasn't absolutely necessary to go out.

Still, public spaces vacant of people during the past two months were bustling on Monday. There were protests by police and unemployed musicians in the principal plaza. People strolled in the historic center and along a main boulevard. Cleaning seemed to be happening everywhere as still-closed offices and restaurants prepared to open.

A long line of people seeking construction permits stretched in front of a city office building. While the city has had some success imposing orderly lines at its subway stations, a commuter bus line station was chaos. Most people at least were wearing masks.

Renato Rivera stood outside a construction site wearing a red mask Monday. He had heard they were getting back to work, but when he arrived there wasn't a job for him.

"It's not that you're not scared," he said of returning to work. "We're all scared. But we have need. There's no help from the government. ".

On Monday, Lpez Obrador highlighted a couple of hot spots, including the Pacific Coast beach destination Acapulco and his home state of Tabasco.

"We're going to carefully return to productive activities," he said.

Later in the day during a visit to a military base on Isla Mujeres, Lpez Obrador warned that if there were new outbreaks and a surge in infections, restrictions would be tightened again.

For the most part Mexico's restrictions have been recommendations. Lpez Obrador repeated Monday that he preferred reasoning with people to "authoritarian impositions. ".

The Pacific resorts of LOS Cabos had initially set June 1 to reopen, but have now pushed that deeper into the month.

Lpez Obrador planned to spend the week promoting the start of construction for the Mayan Train, which will whisk tourists from resort destinations like Cancun into the interior of the Yucatan Peninsula. It has been criticized as an environmental threat and faces opposition from indigenous communities, but he says it will create 80,000 jobs.

The president has faced criticism for his handling of the pandemic. He continued to travel the country a month after Mexico's first confirmed case and has continually mixed messages of a need to take precautions with the country's need to reactivate its economy.

The Mexican government has estimated about 1 million jobs have been lost during the epidemic. Mexico's central bank projected last week that the economy would shrink as much as 8. 8% this year.

On his way to Cancun, Lpez Obrador stopped at his ranch in Chiapas state and recorded a video he shared on social networks. He tried to highlight positive economic signs, noting the peso has regained a bit of value against the dollar and the price of oil has risen slightly.

"I wanted to give you good news," Lpez Obrador said. "There is economic recovery. The model we are using is showing us results. ".

The remnants of Tropical Storm Amanda which left at least 17 dead over the weekend in Central America reformed into a tropical depression in the Bay of Campeche and was forecast to become a tropical storm. It was expected to dump 10 to 15 inches of rain on the Yucatan Peninsula and gulf coast states in coming days.

Verza reported from Mexico City. AP photojournalist Fernando Llano and videojournalist Gerardo Carrillo in Mexico City and AP writer Ignacio Martnez in San Jos de LOS Cabos contributed to this report.

[Travv]

Arguably the most horrific incident involving an attack on police has come out of Mexico. On Thursday a video went viral on social media which showed police confronting a crowd in the city of Guadalajara.

Amid the mayhem, a man approaches a motorcycle patrol officer from behind while dousing him in gasoline or a flammable liquid, and proceeds to set the officer on fire.

The unrest came amid protests sparked by the death of 30-year old Giovanni Lopez, in what's believed to the Mexico's own latest controversial 'police brutality death'. He reportedly died a mere hour into police custody after being detained for merely not wearing mask amid mandated COVID-19 social distancing measures.

It appears that some Antifa accounts in the US are spreading the video while actually praising the attacker, taking "inspiration" from the heinous attempt to kill police. . .

Google headline for the full article.

If you see any protest or protestors in Mexico, suggest you leave at high speed immediately. . . Commenter: I live in Mexico, and I know Mexican Police Torture people for fun, I have seen it with my own eyes. Got pulled over for no reason because they wanted to steal money my friend cussed out the cop and they beat him to a pulp right in front of me and threatened to torture him. A guy was filming it across the street they drug him out of the car and beat him too. When we got my friend out of jail he had 4 cracked ribs. In Mexico there is no sueing cops for brutality so.

Attack a cop in Mexico and you're attacking a member of the Cartel that controls that area. These protesters thinking they're showing solidarity with the US "systemic racism movement" are not the brightest bombillas. Cartels don't like social unrest in las plazas. Bad for business, makes them look weak. They are Law and Order in Mexico.

[Dogers69]

Arguably the most horrific incident involving an attack on police has come out of Mexico. On Thursday a video went viral on social media which showed police confronting a crowd in the city of Guadalajara.

Amid the mayhem, a man approaches a motorcycle patrol officer from behind while dousing him in gasoline or a flammable liquid, and proceeds to set the officer on fire.

The unrest came amid protests sparked by the death of 30-year old Giovanni Lopez, in what's believed to the Mexico's own latest controversial 'police brutality death'. He reportedly died a mere hour into police custody after being detained for merely not wearing mask amid mandated COVID-19 social distancing measures.

It appears that some Antifa accounts in the US are spreading the video while actually praising the attacker, taking "inspiration" from the heinous attempt to kill police. . .

Google headline for the full article.

If you see any protest or protestors in Mexico, suggest you leave at high speed immediately. . . Commenter: I live in Mexico, and I know Mexican Police Torture people for fun, I have seen it with my own eyes. Got pulled over for no reason because they wanted to steal money my friend cussed out the cop and they beat him to a pulp right in front of me and threatened to torture him. A guy was filming it across the street they drug him out of the car and beat him too. When we got my friend out of jail he had 4 cracked ribs. In Mexico there is no sueing cops for brutality so.

Attack a cop in Mexico and you're attacking a member of the Cartel that controls that area. These protesters thinking they're showing solidarity with the US "systemic racism movement" are not the brightest bombillas. Cartels don't like social unrest in las plazas. Bad for business, makes them look weak. They are Law and Order in Mexico.It's a sad world we live in with the cop haters. The police in mexico pat me down often but don't take money and I don't argue or yell. Its turned into part of the whole tijuana adrenalin rush, cops might arest me, people trying to mug me in the street, keep wandering street for a new hottie who might not know the sex is supposed to be bad. Tonight I was outside starbucks in nyc 10 police were talking to me, friendly, most were latino talking soanish to each other. They had about an hour to go before another night of getting bricks bottles thrown at their head in the park 100 feet from starbucks. I felt bad for them. They often go home and kill themselves.

[ClamSlammer]

It's a sad world we live in with the cop haters.It's not a sad world when people hate criminals. And cops are criminals. They commit the most criminal acts of any constituency by far. In a normal day, most people go to work, shopping, have something to eat maybe, go home without breaking the law. Not a day goes by where most cops don't break the law. I've been assaulted myself by a Tempe, AZ police officer for doing nothing but putting my hands up in frustration. Cops are criminals, period. They routinely lie to cover each other too. I have no sympathy for cops suffer harm in the line of duty.

[Rainman306]

Below is a list of some of my police encounters in the United States that shows police abuse power, waste citizens time, cause unnecessary danger, and generally treat people poorly.

January 2020 - My car lost control over an icy bridge and after missing 2 other cars also sliding out of control in the road then just barely split 2 cars already in the ditch. When the police arrived the officer thought I was slurring my speech so the chicken checked my car and found nothing, and then decided later to give me a breathalyzer test. I called my insurance to dispatch a row truck, but the officer decided it was taking too long so he called another tow truck company to get my car out of the ditch at an additional cost to me.

May 2019 - While on Vacation in Florida I had not yet figured out how to turn the headlights on in my rental car, but it still had partial headlights working and it was only at dusk so not fully dark yet. The officers decided I needed to undergo a field sobriety test, and at first told me I had failed and I might be going to jail. As an FYI, I had pulled an all nighter the night before to catch an early morning flight and was very tired. They decided to redo to field sobriety test, and decided I passed the second time, but still did a breathalyzer test.

Fall 2016 - I had a rear tail light that had went out and because of a very heavy workload was not able to have time for about 3 weeks to get it fixed. Must have been pulled over about 10 times in those 3 weeks. Started carrying my time card showing I was working 70 hours a week.

June 2016 - Got pulled over less than 20 yards from wear a new speed limit of 45 mph from 55 mph had been put up less than a month before. The officers were pointing their speed guns northward where the speed limit was 55 and further up I was 65. Got major attitude when I called them out on tracking speed before the actual speed change and that was a brand new speed change.

Summer 2011 - Got pulled over for allegedly running a stop sign. After pulled over, told the officer I was less than 100 yards from the stop sign and there was no way I would have been pulled over in this spot if I had run the stop sign. Got asked to step out of my car and was aggressively patted down. Having candy in my pocket smashed and a bruise agitated multiple times, before being given a ticket and let go.

FYI. I am a white male with a clean cut haircut and nicely dressed normally with no tatoos or piercings and all these incidents happened in my 20's or 30's.

[LuvMexicanas]

It's not a sad world when people hate criminals. And cops are criminals. They commit the most criminal acts of any constituency by far. In a normal day, most people go to work, shopping, have something to eat maybe, go home without breaking the law. Not a day goes by where most cops don't break the law. I've been assaulted myself by a Tempe, AZ police officer for doing nothing but putting my hands up in frustration. Cops are criminals, period. They routinely lie to cover each other too. I have no sympathy for cops suffer harm in the line of duty.You're painting with a pretty broad brush there Clammy.

[MongerHunger]

Below is a list of some of my police encounters in the United States that shows police abuse power, waste citizens time, cause unnecessary danger, and generally treat people poorly.

January 2020 - My car lost control over an icy bridge and after missing 2 other cars also sliding out of control in the road then just barely split 2 cars already in the ditch. When the police arrived the officer thought I was slurring my speech so the chicken checked my car and found nothing, and then decided later to give me a breathalyzer test. I called my insurance to dispatch a row truck, but the officer decided it was taking too long so he called another tow truck company to get my car out of the ditch at an additional cost to me.

May 2019 - While on Vacation in Florida I had not yet figured out how to turn the headlights on in my rental car, but it still had partial headlights working and it was only at dusk so not fully dark yet. The officers decided I needed to undergo a field sobriety test, and at first told me I had failed and I might be going to jail. As an FYI, I had pulled an all nighter the night before to catch an early morning flight and was very tired. They decided to redo to field sobriety test, and decided I passed the second time, but still did a breathalyzer test.

Fall 2016 - I had a rear tail light that had went out and because of a very heavy workload was not able to have time for about 3 weeks to get it fixed. Must have been pulled over about 10 times in those 3 weeks. Started carrying my time card showing I was working 70 hours a week..I didn't read anything where the police caused unnecessary danger.

[Sound7]

Any experience with choke holds, knee press or neck press in Mexico?


I didn't read anything where the police caused unnecessary danger.

[MongerHunger]

Below is a list of some of my police encounters in the United States that shows police abuse power, waste citizens time, cause unnecessary danger, and generally treat people poorlyYou didn't list one thing as an example of how the police caused unnecessary danger to you.

[Travv]

Sure, if you want to experience the chokehold in Mexico, that is easy to arrange. Walk around Constitucion on the sidewalk or side alleys at night with some money in your wallet. Local rateros will give you the chokehold experience you seek in exchange for the money in your wallet! LOL.

P.S: you neck may be sore for a few days. . . The rateros got a throwaway wallet from my pocket and ran off. . . For the genuine Tijuana chokehold experience, do not carry a throwaway wallet. . . Losing your ID, cash and credit cards are part of the genuine Tijuana experience!


Any experience with choke holds, knee press or neck press in Mexico?

[Dogers69]

Sure, if you want to experience the chokehold in Mexico, that is easy to arrange. Walk around Constitucion on the sidewalk or side alleys at night with some money in your wallet. Local rateros will give you the chokehold experience you seek in exchange for the money in your wallet! LOL.

P.S: you neck may be sore for a few days. . . The rateros got a throwaway wallet from my pocket and ran off. . . For the genuine Tijuana chokehold experience, do not carry a throwaway wallet. . . Losing your ID, cash and credit cards are part of the genuine Tijuana experience!Oh yeah I got the choke hold right on the street alongside Hong Kong, east side oh hk. I was fighting off 8 hands trying to get in my pockets till I got choked from another guy from behind. Lost everything even the sweater I had on. Yes the. Neck hurt for 3 days. Had to get stitches on my head since they dint lay you out safely on the sidewalk try just let go. Very easily could have died. 120 k dollar hospital visit. Got released from San Diego hospital wearing green sweatpants and purple sweater since they send you home in donated clothes after they cut your clothes off on the cat scan table. Fortunately I got a free night stay in the hospital and 2 meals out of it. I often underestimate these young kids. In nyc protest I tried helping cop and a handful turned on me, if I hadn't been nearly killed in tijuana I probably wouldn't of ran away so fast in nyc and would of been killed or crippled. It's the mob mentality. They will never fight you 1 on 1. But when with friends they will kill you.

[Sound7]

NYPD / National Guard had the full Gaza gear and training against BLM+ others+looters+Arsonist+? What was the NYPD plan. Choke holds. Rubber bullets. Gas. Concussion bombs. +++. Great bodily injury.

War zone.


Oh yeah I got the choke hold right on the street alongside Hong Kong, east side oh hk. I was fighting off 8 hands trying to get in my pockets till I got choked from another guy from behind. Lost everything even the sweater I had on. Yes the. Neck hurt for 3 days. Had to get stitches on my head since they dint lay you out safely on the sidewalk try just let go. Very easily could have died. 120 k dollar hospital visit. Got released from San Diego hospital wearing green sweatpants and purple sweater since they send you home in donated clothes after they cut your clothes off on the cat scan table. Fortunately I got a free night stay in the hospital and 2 meals out of it. I often underestimate these young kids. In nyc protest I tried helping cop and a handful turned on me, if I hadn't been nearly killed in tijuana I probably wouldn't of ran away so fast in nyc and would of been killed or crippled. It's the mob mentality. They will never fight you 1 on 1. But when with friends they will kill you.

[ChinaMan360]

Below is a list of some of my police encounters in the United States that shows police abuse power, waste citizens time, cause unnecessary danger, and generally treat people poorly.

January 2020 - My car lost control over an icy bridge and after missing 2 other cars also sliding out of control in the road then just barely split 2 cars already in the ditch. When the police arrived the officer thought I was slurring my speech so the chicken checked my car and found nothing, and then decided later to give me a breathalyzer test. I called my insurance to dispatch a row truck, but the officer decided it was taking too long so he called another tow truck company to get my car out of the ditch at an additional cost to me.

May 2019 - While on Vacation in Florida I had not yet figured out how to turn the headlights on in my rental car, but it still had partial headlights working and it was only at dusk so not fully dark yet. The officers decided I needed to undergo a field sobriety test, and at first told me I had failed and I might be going to jail. As an FYI, I had pulled an all nighter the night before to catch an early morning flight and was very tired. They decided to redo to field sobriety test, and decided I passed the second time, but still did a breathalyzer test.

Fall 2016 - I had a rear tail light that had went out and because of a very heavy workload was not able to have time for about 3 weeks to get it fixed. Must have been pulled over about 10 times in those 3 weeks. Started carrying my time card showing I was working 70 hours a week.

June 2016 - Got pulled over less than 20 yards from wear a new speed limit of 45 mph from 55 mph had been put up less than a month before. The officers were pointing their speed guns northward where the speed limit was 55 and further up I was 65. Got major attitude when I called them out on tracking speed before the actual speed change and that was a brand new speed change..Just 5 bad events in the span of over a decade ain't too bad. In Tijuana you can have 5 equally bad experiences in like a week with the policia.

[Mongo1]

It sounds like to me that Tijuana is not a very safe place to visit. So if I were to stay at Hong Kong and went outside to talk to the street girls what would the chance be of having a mugging? I was concerned because I was planning on visiting this Tuesday for a few days.


Oh yeah I got the choke hold right on the street alongside Hong Kong, east side oh hk. I was fighting off 8 hands trying to get in my pockets till I got choked from another guy from behind. Lost everything even the sweater I had on. Yes the. Neck hurt for 3 days. Had to get stitches on my head since they dint lay you out safely on the sidewalk try just let go. Very easily could have died. 120 k dollar hospital visit. Got released from San Diego hospital wearing green sweatpants and purple sweater since they send you home in donated clothes after they cut your clothes off on the cat scan table. Fortunately I got a free night stay in the hospital and 2 meals out of it. I often underestimate these young kids. In nyc protest I tried helping cop and a handful turned on me, if I hadn't been nearly killed in tijuana I probably wouldn't of ran away so fast in nyc and would of been killed or crippled. It's the mob mentality. They will never fight you 1 on 1. But when with friends they will kill you.

[DramaFree11]

It sounds like to me that Tijuana is not a very safe place to visit. So if I were to stay at Hong Kong and went outside to talk to the street girls what would the chance be of having a mugging? I was concerned because I was planning on visiting this Tuesday for a few days.Wrong Tijuana is a safe place avoid the drugs, do not walk at dark if you are not familiar with the city. I feel way safer in Tijuana, then Houston or LA.

[ScatManDoo]

It sounds like to me that Tijuana is not a very safe place to visit. So if I were to stay at Hong Kong and went outside to talk to the street girls what would the chance be of having a mugging? I was concerned because I was planning on visiting this Tuesday for a few days.Hong Kong is closed.

I've never heard or read about someone being mugged in the alley. Can't say the same for surrounding streets.

[Scbb1]

NYPD / National Guard had the full Gaza gear and training against BLM+ others+looters+Arsonist+? What was the NYPD plan. Choke holds. Rubber bullets. Gas. Concussion bombs. +++. Great bodily injury.

War zone.When was this and what time was it?, there is a lot of police presence in that area. I have never heard of such a thing.

[Dogers69]

It sounds like to me that Tijuana is not a very safe place to visit. So if I were to stay at Hong Kong and went outside to talk to the street girls what would the chance be of having a mugging? I was concerned because I was planning on visiting this Tuesday for a few days.The problem with going outside of HK is the area is intriguing. You will see people walking up the streets and want to take a look. If you just did the alley and not the side, you would be much safer. But even the alley especially now with the bars closed I'd imagine isn't safe. Even with the bars open, in the alley, your gona have to deal with problems. I've seen fights, wrestling matches with police, naked man tazered by cops, guy punched in head dropped like he was dead, cops stop mongers in the alley, if you ask girls questions they don't like, like BBBJ they scream it out loud to anyone around, random girls walk the alley to get you to their room where you will be jumped or she will just take your money and not deliver any activities, theres drug dealers around, scam artists, slot dudes deported who need your money. Theres so many ways to scew up. If you look american, alone, a the tipsy it's like a bleeding swimmer to a shark. The whole block wants a piece of you. The block is not Mardi gras or a Thailand party street. You can do it, but if you can't brush off strangers, all of them someone will get to you. You need to move fast, do a lap, go. Back inside a the not walk it again for an hour. If people see you repeatedly walking then you get noticed a the targeted especially from the police and guys that want to beg you for money, not the homeless beggar, the guy that makes a living from it and will get pissed if you don't cooperate.

[Phordphan]

The problem with going outside of HK is the area is intriguing. You will see people walking up the streets and want to take a look. If you just did the alley and not the side, you would be much safer. But even the alley especially now with the bars closed I'd imagine isn't safe. Even with the bars open, in the alley, your gona have to deal with problems. I've seen fights, wrestling matches with police, naked man tazered by cops, guy punched in head dropped like he was dead, cops stop mongers in the alley, if you ask girls questions they don't like, like BBBJ they scream it out loud to anyone around, random girls walk the alley to get you to their room where you will be jumped or she will just take your money and not deliver any activities, theres drug dealers around, scam artists, slot dudes deported who need your money. Theres so many ways to scew up. If you look american, alone, a the tipsy it's like a bleeding swimmer to a shark. The whole block wants a piece of you. The block is not Mardi gras or a Thailand party street. You can do it, but if you can't brush off strangers, all of them someone will get to you. You need to move fast, do a lap, go. Back inside a the not walk it again for an hour. If people see you repeatedly walking then you get noticed a the targeted especially from the police and guys that want to beg you for money, not the homeless beggar, the guy that makes a living from it and will get pissed if you don't cooperate.Do you buy your tinfoil by the case?

[Kdog]

We all have different experiences in Tijuana, but for me it's the most dangerous place I've visited. I think a big reason is I always go alone (not by choice). If you are in a group, it's a much different experience. I would say, even knowing exactly what to look out for, I'm still anxious and expecting the worst when I go to Tijuana alone. I do make the walk from Hong Kong to Chicago and back. I just think it's ridiculous to take a taxi to and from those spots, especially since the taxis work with the cops and you not much safer with them. However, during those speed walks, I've have several bad experiences with the police. One thing I've learned, always say you are with a group and you are walking to meet with them. If you get robbed by police, remember their vehicle number. In fact, now the first thing I look for when I see a police vehicle coming is the vehicle number. They don't want you looking at this because they know there is a phone number you can call to report them and I've heard they actually do get in trouble for it. One number to call is 619-692-2154 another is 078. For me Tijuana is so dangerous because you have robbers and police to worry about and if you have an encouter the robbers you don't get the feeling the police are there to protect or help you. I would bet anything if the police saw a robbery the only thing they would do is extort the robbers for a share of the prize. I know there are varying reports about the police, but trust me, if you are alone, you have to worry a lot about them. I've had several horrible experiences with them and they are borderline evil. They WILL take your last dollar so you can't even get a taxi back to the border. The last time they robbed me, all I asked for was either to leave me enough money to get back to the border or if they could give me a ride back to the border and they just laughed at me. The funny thing is, after that last experience, I educated myself with those phone numbers and making sure I get the vehicle number of every police near me, and I haven't had another encounter. It's almost like they can sense I'm prepared for them. Or maybe I've just been lucky.

[Dogers69]

We all have different experiences in Tijuana, but for me it's the most dangerous place I've visited. I think a big reason is I always go alone (not by choice). If you are in a group, it's a much different experience. I would say, even knowing exactly what to look out for, I'm still anxious and expecting the worst when I go to Tijuana alone. I do make the walk from Hong Kong to Chicago and back. I just think it's ridiculous to take a taxi to and from those spots, especially since the taxis work with the cops and you not much safer with them. However, during those speed walks, I've have several bad experiences with the police. One thing I've learned, always say you are with a group and you are walking to meet with them. If you get robbed by police, remember their vehicle number. In fact, now the first thing I look for when I see a police vehicle coming is the vehicle number. They don't want you looking at this because they know there is a phone number you can call to report them and I've heard they actually do get in trouble for it. One number to call is 619-692-2154 another is 078. For me Tijuana is so dangerous because you have robbers and police to worry about and if you have an encouter the robbers you don't get the feeling the police are there to protect or help you. I would bet anything if the police saw a robbery the only thing they would do is extort the robbers for a share of the prize. I know there are varying reports about the police, but trust me, if you are alone, you have to worry a lot about them. I've had several horrible experiences with them and they are borderline evil. They WILL take your last dollar so you can't even get a taxi back to the border. The last time they robbed me, all I asked for was either to leave me enough money to get back to the border or if they could give me a ride back to the border and they just laughed at me. The funny thing is, after that last experience, I educated myself with those phone numbers and making sure I get the vehicle number of every police near me, and I haven't had another encounter. It's almost like they can sense I'm prepared for them. Or maybe I've just been lucky.That's funny you can have such a big difference of issues with the police. I wonder if it has to do with ethnicity, or how well dressed you are. Are you over 60 years old? Wonder if that plays a role? I'm in 40's white Jean's t shirt sneakers no jewelry. The police stopped me alot the 1st 3 years in tijuana but not the last year or two. Out of 100 days in Tijuana, (5 hrs a day) I've been stopped around 4 times for walking. They did not take money from my wallet ever. Then again I only have 30 to 50 in my wallet the rest is in hidden. Pockets or socks.

[DramaFree11]

That's funny you can have such a big difference of issues with the police. I wonder if it has to do with ethnicity, or how well dressed you are. Are you over 60 years old? Wonder if that plays a role? I'm in 40's white Jean's t shirt sneakers no jewelry. The police stopped me alot the 1st 3 years in tijuana but not the last year or two. Out of 100 days in Tijuana, (5 hrs a day) I've been stopped around 4 times for walking. They did not take money from my wallet ever. Then again I only have 30 to 50 in my wallet the rest is in hidden. Pockets or socks.M.

Same experience for me, but I usually dress in a sport jacket and jeans at night. I'm definitely more cautious now, but I've had only minor issues with the police. The one issue I did have I had an open container walking, so that was my fault. I've probably been to Tijuana 200 times. I always walk back-and-forth between the casino and HK, no problems. I probably will not do that at night anymore, but during the day it's no problem.

[BangoSkank]

The problem with going outside of HK is the area is intriguing. You will see people walking up the streets and want to take a look. If you just did the alley and not the side, you would be much safer. But even the alley especially now with the bars closed I'd imagine isn't safe. Even with the bars open, in the alley, your gona have to deal with problems. I've seen fights, wrestling matches with police, naked man tazered by cops, guy punched in head dropped like he was dead, cops stop mongers in the alley, if you ask girls questions they don't like, like BBBJ they scream it out loud to anyone around, random girls walk the alley to get you to their room where you will be jumped or she will just take your money and not deliver any activities, theres drug dealers around, scam artists, slot dudes deported who need your money. Theres so many ways to scew up. If you look american, alone, a the tipsy it's like a bleeding swimmer to a shark. The whole block wants a piece of you. The block is not Mardi gras or a Thailand party street. You can do it, but if you can't brush off strangers, all of them someone will get to you. You need to move fast, do a lap, go. Back inside a the not walk it again for an hour. If people see you repeatedly walking then you get noticed a the targeted especially from the police and guys that want to beg you for money, not the homeless beggar, the guy that makes a living from it and will get pissed if you don't cooperate.You must be visiting a different Tijuana or suffer extreme paranoia as I have been there 5 days at time for over 20 trips and have not experienced what you are describing to that degree.

[Travv]

Generally your experience in Tijuana will depend on how you look. Do you look small, Asian, a clueless tourist or disabled? Do you like to get or act drunk and walk around? Then the rateros will be noticing you! But if you look like a big mean type or look like you know what you are doing and speak Spanish, then the rateros will leave you alone unless you look drunk. You must assess how the sharks in Tijuana will view you. A tip. Flashing expensive watches or cars or anything else is not a good idea in Tijuana. I've noticed that when I drive a beater car, I rarely get pulled over. But when I drive a nice 4 x 4 jeep, suddenly the cops and others take an interest. If cops pull you over and start asking questions like. How much did you pay for this car? Does it run well? These are not good questions if you do not want to go to jail and have your car confiscated when drugs are planted on you. So if you get attention from the cops or others, watch out. They see what you have and want your stuff. Don't bring stuff they want to Tijuana if you want to keep it safe from theft. Stuff I thought had little value has been stolen from me in Tijuana. You'd be surprised at what the locals will steal from you. Don't bring stuff you care about. RTFF.

Phordphan has a lot of experience. I've been in Azul eating when a drug dealer got shot in the head in the alley and I heard the guns going off. If you hear gunfire, hit the floor. Stay away from drug dealers yelling cuanto, they attract bullets from competing drug cartels. For more info on tourist mistakes in Mexico, google Mexico Vacation Awareness blog.


The problem with going outside of HK is the area is intriguing. You will see people walking up the streets and want to take a look. If you just did the alley and not the side, you would be much safer. But even the alley especially now with the bars closed I'd imagine isn't safe. Even with the bars open, in the alley, your gona have to deal with problems. I've seen fights, wrestling matches with police, naked man tazered by cops, guy punched in head dropped like he was dead, cops stop mongers in the alley, if you ask girls questions they don't like, like BBBJ they scream it out loud to anyone around, random girls walk the alley to get you to their room where you will be jumped or she will just take your money and not deliver any activities, theres drug dealers around, scam artists, slot dudes deported who need your money. Theres so many ways to scew up. If you look american, alone, a the tipsy it's like a bleeding swimmer to a shark. The whole block wants a piece of you. The block is not Mardi gras or a Thailand party street. You can do it, but if you can't brush off strangers, all of them someone will get to you. You need to move fast, do a lap, go. Back inside a the not walk it again for an hour. If people see you repeatedly walking then you get noticed a the targeted especially from the police and guys that want to beg you for money, not the homeless beggar, the guy that makes a living from it and will get pissed if you don't cooperate.

[Captain Solo]

Got an innocent speed ticket by a CHP out of nowhere over 6 weeks ago. He said he pointed a laser at my car and got the speed. Damn. Still have not received Courtesy Notice form the court. I heard the old judges are spending all their time day and night in beds with their pretty CoVid nurses, so they cannot send out bench warrants. You think under the US Constitution the court will have to let me off the hook?

Drove down with a bro last Friday, approaching Oceanside, keeping decent distance at about 65 MPH, when the pick up jerk in front of me stepped on his brake. I stepped on my brakes but when it looked like I would rear ended him and the pick up truck behind me was closing fast, I quickly drove off onto the emergency lane. The left tires pulled the car up the concrete divider then slammed it down violently a couple times. I thought the car was going to roll over but the suspension was fairly stiff so it did not. The car stopped way ahead of the head of the pick up so I would have hit him hard and get rear ended hard by the guy behind me. Three cars in front of me had hit each other. The guy behind me avoided the collision. The 2 left tires show signs they went up the wall. The alloy wheels were abraided and gouged in places. My tire guys were racers so they said wheels were OK. They can be smoothed out when I replace tires next. Damn pissed off at these careless. Amateur drivers.

Was driving back last Sunday afternoon in medium traffic along Camp Pendleton. I blended in traffic, safely passed a couple cars and got in the car pool lane. About 5 miles down the road a white CHP Crown Victoria, with small antennae stick up its roof like hairs on putas' crotches, sped up, got on the car pool lane and followed me for the next 10 miles. He definitely targeted me and was waiting to bust me. He was illegal in the car pool lane. I just innocently followed a big-ass SUV at about 70 MPH. After a while he peeled off and got off in San Juan Capistrano. Question is, how did CHP detect errant cars on busy freeways? Perhaps a few ex CHP bros can share the secrets.

Tijuana looks very attractive with low cost of living, lots of hot girls, strip bars, good spicy food, no protesters, no violent demos, no looting, no back-shooting cops, no CHP hehe.

[Dogers69]

You must be visiting a different Tijuana or suffer extreme paranoia as I have been there 5 days at time for over 20 trips and have not experienced what you are describing to that degree.Well when your getting choked out and wake up with no passport phone wallet sweater money a the your skull sliced open and everyone on the street that watched is asking how much money did they get. It the. Becomes real. Gringos stick out. I can go to nyc a 1000 times a the nobody bothers me. I walk with a bag of any sort for 1 minute, I'm eyed as a tourist and the sharks move in. They won't choke you but they got their own money making scams they will pull. So like the other poster said it comes down to what you look like. Gringo or latino, and height.

[Kdog]

That's funny you can have such a big difference of issues with the police. I wonder if it has to do with ethnicity, or how well dressed you are. Are you over 60 years old? Wonder if that plays a role? I'm in 40's white Jean's t shirt sneakers no jewelry. The police stopped me alot the 1st 3 years in tijuana but not the last year or two. Out of 100 days in Tijuana, (5 hrs a day) I've been stopped around 4 times for walking. They did not take money from my wallet ever. Then again I only have 30 to 50 in my wallet the rest is in hidden. Pockets or socks.I'm late 40's usually button down shirt with jeans. Both times I got stopped walking was just South of Chicago Club at the corner on my way to Chicago Club. Other times I was stopped while in the car. The first time I was stopped at the corner one cop took $40, and I saw it, called him out on it, and the other officer told him to give it back. This was the only somewhat positive encounter I've had with the police in Tijuana. The second time I was stopped walking at that corner, they laid my money out after counting it. I asked if they took any and they very angry forced me into their back seat and drove me about 2 miles. Said I was accusing them of stealing and that I was in big trouble. So there I am in the middle of nowhere with two criminals with guns. So I asked what they wanted and they said all of it. They drove me back and dropped me off somewhat near the zone but they clearly didn't want anyone seeing them drop me off. They took every single dollar. Forntunately, I had an ATM card, but they didn't know that. For all they knew, I was walking back to the border at 1:00 am.

One question, should I have ignored their request to stop and just walked quickly into Chicago Club? The thought crossed my mind. I doubt they would go into CC to find me.

[BrotherMouzone]

That's funny you can have such a big difference of issues with the police. I wonder if it has to do with ethnicity, or how well dressed you are. Are you over 60 years old? Wonder if that plays a role? I'm in 40's white Jean's t shirt sneakers no jewelry. The police stopped me alot the 1st 3 years in tijuana but not the last year or two. Out of 100 days in Tijuana, (5 hrs a day) I've been stopped around 4 times for walking. They did not take money from my wallet ever. Then again I only have 30 to 50 in my wallet the rest is in hidden. Pockets or socks.I guess I've always wondered about this as well. In 20+ trips over 12 years I personally have yet to have a negative experience with Tijuana police. My appearance is early / mid 30's, African-American, clean-cut, athletic, usually dressed very casually (t-shirt and shorts / jeans), though occasionally throw on a nice polo shirt. Wear a watch and earrings but don't dress flashy at all though. Never wear a dress shirt or sports jacket. 20 trips is probably a small sample size but I've yet to receive any kind of look from Tijuana cops. Only experience was a cop sitting on a stool outside of Adelitas as I was walking in politely warning me not to walk around the streets of Tijuana carrying my cellphone the way I was carrying it in my hand as a pickpocket could easily steal it. Have always felt comfortable walking from HK to Chicago Club at anytime. Honestly, haven't spent much time in the alley so can't really comment on that area. Only really go through the alley when I exit HK / Cascadas on that side and am walking around to the front. But no problems with Tijuana cops for me (at least thus far). My thought is this is largely due to me not dressing flashy or otherwise "fitting the profile" of having a lot of money (even though I have a very comfortable six-figure job and often carry several hundred $$$ in pockets when I'm down there) and keeping to myself without causing trouble when I'm down there LOL. Maybe carrying $$$ around like that is foolish but, again, I've never had problems with Tijuana police and I've always felt a lot more comfortable carrying $$$ or even leaving most of my $$$ in my car back in the states than leaving it in my hotel safe / room (most often Cascadas) in Tijuana.

[Phordphan]

Well when your getting choked out and wake up with no passport phone wallet sweater money a the your skull sliced open and everyone on the street that watched is asking how much money did they get. It the. Becomes real. Gringos stick out. I can go to nyc a 1000 times a the nobody bothers me. I walk with a bag of any sort for 1 minute, I'm eyed as a tourist and the sharks move in. They won't choke you but they got their own money making scams they will pull. So like the other poster said it comes down to what you look like. Gringo or latino, and height.Was this when you got mugged by a gang of well-dressed, very short, men and women?

[Goyo61]

I have only had one issue and it was because I was with a buddy who thought he "knew" Zona Norte but we went into some bar that was not for gringo's. Lesson #1. Great to do stuff with buddies and it's best to go with one, BUT, don't let your buddy compromise your safety. A Cop came in the bar when we were in there and was either scoping us out for some type of heist or something. Very bad vibe and we quickly split the place.

But. I Always go in the afternoon and I am out of Zona Norte before dark. The whole place changes after dark in my opinion. It's just crazier.

Go during the day or at least not after 9 pm and I think your odds are better.

I liked Dogers info about walking around. Same type of thing I have found. Don't spend a lot of time walking around. Make your round. Then don't do it again for a while.

The one thing I miss about Asia. It felt so safe. In comparison to Zona Norte. Probably been down there 20 times by now. So far. No meetups with cops. But I know it's probably just a matter of when and not if.

Goyo.

[Artisttyp]

USA.

Mexico set to surpass Italy's coronavirus tally as death toll nears 35,000.

ReutersJuly 12,2020, 10:44 AM.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexico-set-surpass-italys-coronavirus-174409009.html

[Jinxx]

Was walking a buddy to Hotel Velario where he was staying Saturday night we had been drinking at HK / CC / BT. We got stopped by some cops. They frisked us and let us go. Even though it's only a couple blocks I don't think that's a safe walk at night. Better to take a uber.

[Dogers69]

Was walking a buddy to Hotel Velario where he was staying Saturday night we had been drinking at HK / CC / BT. We got stopped by some cops. They frisked us and let us go. Even though it's only a couple blocks I don't think that's a safe walk at night. Better to take a uber.When I stayed there the security guard wouldn't let me stand in front waiting for uber at noon. He said your gona get attacked. Although I had gone for walks in the area to get tacos but it didn't feel safe. You walk in that area you better be ready to give up phone and wallet immediately any hesitation and it's a problem.

[Hargow20]

The zona is relatively safe these. I have heard that the rateros are more active during the shutdown. I normally walk to the zona during the day. It is best to stay in the zona. If I Amin the zona after 9 m I take a Uber back to the xborder.


I have only had one issue and it was because I was with a buddy who thought he "knew" Zona Norte but we went into some bar that was not for gringo's. Lesson #1. Great to do stuff with buddies and it's best to go with one, BUT, don't let your buddy compromise your safety. A Cop came in the bar when we were in there and was either scoping us out for some type of heist or something. Very bad vibe and we quickly split the place.

But. I Always go in the afternoon and I am out of Zona Norte before dark. The whole place changes after dark in my opinion. It's just crazier.

Go during the day or at least not after 9 pm and I think your odds are better.

I liked Dogers info about walking around. Same type of thing I have found. Don't spend a lot of time walking around. Make your round. Then don't do it again for a while.

The one thing I miss about Asia. It felt so safe. In comparison to Zona Norte. Probably been down there 20 times by now. So far. No meetups with cops. But I know it's probably just a matter of when and not if.

Goyo.

[MemoeNasty]

When I stayed there the security guard wouldn't let me stand in front waiting for uber at noon. He said your gona get attacked. Although I had gone for walks in the area to get tacos but it didn't feel safe. You walk in that area you better be ready to give up phone and wallet immediately any hesitation and it's a problem.Getting robbed at noon in front of this motel might be fear mongering. You wouldn't have a problem during the day in that stretch but at night it's pretty quiet, dark and not much up there. There used to be a really cool bar with an attached hotel and restaurant but it closed about 5 years ago. Also, about a block or two down is where the T girls hang out. Most are aggressive and obnoxious. I also wouldn't be walking to and from velario too drunk after dark. Moe.

[Captain Solo]

As AMLO was visiting Jalisco this week, El Mencho's CJNG cartel released a video showing its powerful army with dozens guys in camo uniform, automatic weapons and armored vehicles.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mexico-drug-cartel-video-jalisco-new-generation-weapons-military-cjng-a9626246.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5ncgWCZLQ

Looks like CJNG was trying to intimidate AMLO into backing off from prosecuting them. When Mexican army apprehended Chapo's son, Ovideo, last year, Sinaloa cartel mounted massive military operation, blocking roads, burning cars. AMLO backed down, personally ordered the release of the prisoner.

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Mexican drug cartel shows off uniformed troops with military weapons and armoured vehicles in video.

'Propaganda video' comes as Mexican president visits criminal group's heartland.

Conrad Duncan at theconradduncan.

Mexico's top security official has said authorities are investigating a video which showed dozens of uniformed troops with military-grade weapons and armoured pickup trucks apparently connected to a major drug cartel.

The video, which circulated on social media on Friday, appeared to be a show of power by members of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG) - one of Mexico's most powerful criminal groups.

Alfonso Durazo, secretary of security and civilian protection, said the "propaganda video" was being analysed to confirm its authenticity.

He added that "there is no criminal group with the capacity to successfully challenge the federal security forces".

Many of the vehicles parked on a dirt road in the video have improvised gun turrets or plate-steel armour welded onto them.

Fearing 'losing ground' to cartels during pandemic, US sends military.

Several dozen masked men, wearing bulletproof vests and wielding assault rifles, are also heard shouting they are "people of Mencho" - a nickname used by Jalisco New Generation Cartel head Nemesio Oseguera.

The release of the video coincided with a visit by Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, Mexico's president, to the group's heartland.

Mr Lopez Obrador has favoured a less confrontational approach to security than his predecessors and supported measures to address social issues, such as poverty and unemployment, which he has argued contribute to crime.

The so-called "hugs, not bullets" strategy has been controversial and some security analysts have warned it has emboldened criminal groups.

"They are sending a clear message. That they basically rule Mexico, not Lopez Obrador," Mike Vigil, a former chief of international operations for the US Drug Enforcement Administration, told Reuters.

Mr Vigil warned the president's approach had "only led these cartels to operate with more impunity".

Falko Ernst, a senior analyst on Mexico for the International Crisis Group, said the video sent a clear warning over potential retaliation against the government by the cartel.

"This video, taken yesterday in the Jalisco Sierra as I'm told, is more than clear in its message toward the fed gov: You come after us, and we will strike back," Mr Ernst wrote on Twitter.

He added: "Rather than a declaration of war, from my perspective it's primarily geared at guarding the status quo, at a crucial time where the fed gov has to define its future posture regarding the CJNG. ".

CJNG is regarded as Mexico's strongest gang, along with the Sinaloa Cartel formerly led by jailed drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.

In late June, the cartel was quickly identified as the probable culprit in an attack on Omar Garcia Harfuch, Mexico City's security head, which took place in broad daylight in a wealthy neighbourhood in the capital.

[Jinxx]

As AMLO was visiting Jalisco this week, El Mencho's CJNG cartel released a video showing its powerful army with dozens guys in camo uniform, automatic weapons and armored vehicles.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mexico-drug-cartel-video-jalisco-new-generation-weapons-military-cjng-a9626246.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5ncgWCZLQ

Looks like CJNG was trying to intimidate AMLO into backing off from prosecuting them. When Mexican army apprehended Chapo's son, Ovideo, last year, Sinaloa cartel mounted massive military operation, blocking roads, burning cars. AMLO backed down, personally ordered the release of the prisoner.

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

Mexican drug cartel shows off uniformed troops with military weapons and armoured vehicles in video.

'Propaganda video' comes as Mexican president visits criminal group's heartland.

Conrad Duncan at theconradduncan.

Mexico's top security official has said authorities are investigating a video which showed dozens of uniformed troops with military-grade weapons and armoured pickup trucks apparently connected to a major drug cartel.

The video, which circulated on social media on Friday, appeared to be a show of power by members of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG) - one of Mexico's most powerful criminal groups.

Alfonso Durazo, secretary of security and civilian protection, said the "propaganda video" was being analysed to confirm its authenticity.

He added that "there is no criminal group with the capacity to successfully challenge the federal security forces".

Many of the vehicles parked on a dirt road in the video have improvised gun turrets or plate-steel armour welded onto them.

Fearing 'losing ground' to cartels during pandemic, US sends military.

Several dozen masked men, wearing bulletproof vests and wielding assault rifles, are also heard shouting they are "people of Mencho" - a nickname used by Jalisco New Generation Cartel head Nemesio Oseguera.

The release of the video coincided with a visit by Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, Mexico's president, to the group's heartland.

Mr Lopez Obrador has favoured a less confrontational approach to security than his predecessors and supported measures to address social issues, such as poverty and unemployment, which he has argued contribute to crime.

The so-called "hugs, not bullets" strategy has been controversial and some security analysts have warned it has emboldened criminal groups.

"They are sending a clear message. That they basically rule Mexico, not Lopez Obrador," Mike Vigil, a former chief of international operations for the US Drug Enforcement Administration, told Reuters.

Mr Vigil warned the president's approach had "only led these cartels to operate with more impunity".

Falko Ernst, a senior analyst on Mexico for the International Crisis Group, said the video sent a clear warning over potential retaliation against the government by the cartel.

"This video, taken yesterday in the Jalisco Sierra as I'm told, is more than clear in its message toward the fed gov: You come after us, and we will strike back," Mr Ernst wrote on Twitter.

He added: "Rather than a declaration of war, from my perspective it's primarily geared at guarding the status quo, at a crucial time where the fed gov has to define its future posture regarding the CJNG. ".

CJNG is regarded as Mexico's strongest gang, along with the Sinaloa Cartel formerly led by jailed drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.

In late June, the cartel was quickly identified as the probable culprit in an attack on Omar Garcia Harfuch, Mexico City's security head, which took place in broad daylight in a wealthy neighbourhood in the capital.El Mencho was based in Tijuana for quite a few years, I think he lived out in Playas.

[Dcrist0527]

El Mencho was based in Tijuana for quite a few years, I think he lived out in Playas.This is pure speculation on my part. And I say this not to fear monger. Because I do not think there will be a significant uptick in crimes against foreigners. But the cartel violence is escalating. The anti-government sentiment is growing. Hell, I see as many death to AMLO posters hanging on the walls and poles as I do death to Trump posters. LOL But I do wonder at what point this bubbles over and Tijuana (and other locales) become overrun by the cartel wars.

[Hargow20]

In recent years rises in crime have had little effect on the crime rate in the Zona. This is because the gangs view the Zona as off limits for the most part. The other reason is because there is so many police, military private security in the Zona as well. The ratero activity and police corruption is the thing to watch out for. It is important however keep aware of crime trends. When the crime is rising this when there is more potential problems.


This is pure speculation on my part. And I say this not to fear monger. Because I do not think there will be a significant uptick in crimes against foreigners. But the cartel violence is escalating. The anti-government sentiment is growing. Hell, I see as many death to AMLO posters hanging on the walls and poles as I do death to Trump posters. LOL But I do wonder at what point this bubbles over and Tijuana (and other locales) become overrun by the cartel wars.

[Dogers69]

A quick google search had stories of gringos in cars getting robbed on line going back by policia. Policia told them they were being robbed to save time and argument LOL. Need to hide that cash. They took one guys work tools. I nEver have much on me anyway it's not really a concern of mine.

[ScatManDoo]

A quick google search had stories of gringos in cars getting robbed on line going back by policia. Policia told them they were being robbed to save time and argument LOL. Need to hide that cash. They took one guys work tools. I nEver have much on me anyway it's not really a concern of mine.They are just part of Mexico's newest tourist slogan:

What you bring to Mexico, stays in Mexico.

[Captain Solo]

I have an account with a major bank with a debit card which I have not used for over a year, last time use was in Johor Baru, Malaysia on Mar 1, 2019.

This month someone in Texas used that card to buy a few $100 orders from Pizza Hut. The bank did not suspect the frauds until they tried to charge $140 for a room at Marriott Inn in Beaumont, TX, then they rejected it. The hotel probably asked to see ID and it did not match with the name on the card. Damn.

Looks like the bank's data was hacked. You don't have to use your cards for them to be cloned. I am pissed off at this stupid bank and will close the account. American Express seems to be a lot more alert on fraud charges. They even picked out $5 frauds and alerted me. Then you can talk to the call-center honeys in Manilla hehe.

[Captain Solo]

A wingman, who moved out of the country and is happily married, still monitors situation in Mexico and sent me this LA Times news article.

The Mexican cartels have extorted businesses and mass murdered lots of innocent people. Looks like most older kids in Guerrero left homes and joined the cartels. Vigilantes groups have not much resources left and had to conscript children as young as 6, purportedly to defend themselves and their neighborhoods. When their government is lazy, corrupt, irresponsible and unresponsive, Mexicans have the right to defend themselves and their livelihoods against violent gangs.

Another bro just PMed me how escorts operators in Cabo all quit their business in the last few years, most likely due to high taxes and risks of kidnap, torture, murder by the cartels.

This is how broken, corrupt, violent and lawless Mexico is. Mexico is clearly a failed state and is a big risk to the security of the US. And protesters in US want to defund Police? They should move to Mexico to live their lawless lives with the violent cartels and a weak, corrupt government.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-23/in-a-lawless-stretch-of-mexico-child-soldiers-as-young-as-6-are-being-drafted-to-fight#text=World%20%26%20 Nation-,Children%20 as%20 young%20 as%206%20 are%20 taking%20 up%20 arms%20 in, are%20 as%20 young%20 as%206. &text=In%20 a%20 lawless%20 stretch%20 of, up%20 arms%20 against%20 organized%20 crime.

Children as young as 6 are taking up arms in Mexico.

Nineteen children were conscripted into a vigilante group that for years has been battling drug gangs in Mexico's Guerrero state. The recruits are as young as 6.

By Kate Linthicum staff writer JAN. 23,20205:31 PM.

MEXICO CITY — In a lawless stretch of western Mexico, children as young as 6 are taking up arms against organized crime.

This week, 19 children were conscripted into a vigilante group that for years has been battling drug gangs in restive Guerrero state. Images published by local journalists of the initiation ceremony — in which uniformed, rifle-wielding boys performed military-style maneuvers — drew outrage across Mexico, with human rights officials condemning the exercise as child abuse.

A leader of the vigilante group said in a phone interview Thursday that an increase in violence in the region and the absence of government intervention have left the community with no choice but to arm even its children.

"They must be prepared," said Bernardino Sanchez Luna, who founded the self-defense group known as the CRAC-PF. "If they are afraid, the criminals will kill them like little chickens. ".

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Two of the children who were trained were 6, Sanchez said. The oldest member of the group was 15.

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Over the last seven years, dozens of "community police" forces have emerged in Guerrero, laying claim to a constitutionally protected right that allows indigenous groups in the state to create systems of self-governance.

They say they are defending themselves against local criminal gangs that control drug smuggling routes and extort money from businesses in the region. Critics claim the vigilantes are frequently involved in criminal activity.

Sanchez said his group, which patrols the rural highlands east of the city of Chilpancingo, decided to begin training children in self-defense after the Jan. 17 killing of a group of indigenous musicians.

The 10 musicians were returning from a performance in two vans when assailants struck in the town of Chilapa, according to state prosecutors. The musicians were stabbed and their vehicles and bodies set on fire.

In a news conference Wednesday, Guerrero's attorney general said the state is pursuing six suspects who belong to a criminal group named LOS Ardillos. The group has been accused of other attacks in the region, where a drop in poppy prices in recent years has left criminals scrambling for non-drug-related sources of income.

After the musicians were killed, residents responded angrily, blocking roads and demanding that the government intervene. They were particularly upset about the death of the youngest band member, who was 15, Sanchez said.

When it comes to violence in the region, "nobody, not even a child, is off-limits," he said.

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Jan. 23,2020.

Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador was elected in 2018 on a promise to combat crime by giving poor Mexicans better economic opportunities.

That strategy, which he dubbed "hugs, not bullets," has so far been unsuccessful, with the country reporting more than 35,000 homicides last year.

Asked about the child soldiers in Guerrero, Lopez Obrador questioned whether the vigilante group that had recruited them was a legitimate self-defense organization and then returned to his security strategy, which he said will make it so young people don't have to take up arms.

"I insist, we're going to move forward," he said at his daily news conference Thursday. "We have to give options to children, to young people, to keep them away from weapons, keep them away from the violence, and that's what's being done."

Child police.

On Wednesday, 19 children were inducted into a vigilante group that for years has been battling drug gangs in restive Guerrero state. (Cuartoscuro).

Mexican Security Secretary Alfonso Durazo said Thursday that the government would "review" whether the CRAC-PF should be allowed to continue bearing arms, especially in light of its recruitment of children.

"Not all of them have a legitimate origin or a legitimate purpose," he said of Guerrero's community police groups.

Human rights officials across the country condemned the enlistment of young vigilante soldiers.

[Dogers69]

I read the news in Mexico too, and yeah every business owner, gets a gun to his face and told to either hand over the business, or run the business a s hand over most of the profits. Everyone from a simple taxi driver, or avocado farmer to bar owners restaurant owners, I know Mexican senior citizens who had the gun in their face, right in Tijuana and tld to sell the apartment hand over proceeds in a week, and they followed orders because, like you said, their is really no law and order. Once you empty jails and prisons, essentially everything is legal. Its happened in NYC right now murders are becoming more interesting to read about than Tijuana. They aren't even money motivated. It's just dudes who bumped shoulders in the deli, dudes who look like someone else that someone else may be looking for, everyone's carrying guns now in NYC because the police were told to stand down by AOC and her people like cuomo and the mayor who follow her orders. USA is definitely trending more towards mexico chaos, so, that's why I don't criticize Mexico much because, we will be right there in a few months or 2 years.

[Captain Solo]

In the last 5 years, gang wars, murders, violence, extortion, tourists kidnapping and torturing have stopped the flow of tourists to Acapulco. Even cruise ships were afraid to release their cruise passengers. Youtube has many reports and interviews of hotels, restaurants, shops and tourist-related businesses who were crying over the death of their businesses. Videos show beautiful resorts and fancy restaurants completely empty of clients.

Even without revenues, the cartels still tax and shakedown business owners, big and small, for protection money. A lot, if not most, businesses just shut down due to losses and violent threats by the cartels. There was a taxi driver who made no money because of absence or tourists. He was shot to death for failing to pay the cartel. This scenario is happening all over Mexico besides Acapulco.

It was a punch AMLO's face in his visit to Jalisco when the JNGC circulated videos showing off its army with heavy weapons. It shows Mexico is lawless, the government is weaker and has surrendered to the brutal rules of the gangs.

[ClamSlammer]

every business owner, gets a gun to his face and told to either hand over the business, or run the business a s hand over most of the profits. Everyone from a simple taxi driver, or avocado farmer to bar owners restaurant owners...Yup, every single business owner gets a gun to his face. All 12,000 taxi drivers to every single kid running a limonada stand in the corner.


I know Mexican senior citizens who had the gun in their face, right in Tijuana and tld to sell the apartment hand over proceeds in a week, and they followed orders.You don't. If you're going to make up shit, at least make it. 000001% believable. Even if it was true, you really think it takes only a week to pre-approved, apply for and get final approval by the bank for a loan, deposits, appraisal, building inspections, title research, title insurance, escrow and closing. In a week? LOL.


It's {murders} just dudes who bumped shoulders in the deli, dudes who look like someone else that someone else may be looking for."Bumping shoulders in the deli" has become the new #1 homicide motive in NYC, overtaking robbery, revenge, drug reprisals, spousal retribution.

[LuvMexicanas]

In the last 5 years, gang wars, murders, violence, extortion, tourists kidnapping and torturing have stopped the flow of tourists to Acapulco. Even cruise ships were afraid to release their cruise passengers. Youtube has many reports and interviews of hotels, restaurants, shops and tourist-related businesses who were crying over the death of their businesses. Videos show beautiful resorts and fancy restaurants completely empty of clients.

Even without revenues, the cartels still tax and shakedown business owners, big and small, for protection money. A lot, if not most, businesses just shut down due to losses and violent threats by the cartels. There was a taxi driver who made no money because of absence or tourists. He was shot to death for failing to pay the cartel. This scenario is happening all over Mexico besides Acapulco.

It was a punch AMLO's face in his visit to Jalisco when the JNGC circulated videos showing off its army with heavy weapons. It shows Mexico is lawless, the government is weaker and has surrendered to the brutal rules of the gangs.Mexico is lawless? Have you seen the shit going on in Portland? I'm not sure I'd feel that much more unsafe in Acapulco than southside Chicago. If any city in Mexico were to have as many shootings over a holiday as Chicago did during this 4th of July weekend (79 shot with 15 killed including children), the media hype would be insane. We as Americans should really focus on cleaning up our own backyard before we go knocking on our neighbor's door.

[Dogers69]

Mexico is lawless? Have you seen the shit going on in Portland? I'm not sure I'd feel that much more unsafe in Acapulco than southside Chicago. If any city in Mexico were to have as many shootings over a holiday as Chicago did during this 4th of July weekend (79 shot with 15 killed including children), the media hype would be insane. We as Americans should really focus on cleaning up our own backyard before we go knocking on our neighbor's door.Mexico has most of the most dangerous cities in the world. It is lawless. There's two governments neither has full control.

The federal government and the cartels. In 20 30 years it may just be the cartel without federal government but the cartels not going away. And USA is a violent place if you compare it to many countries. And its Democrat leaders are doing their best to turn it into a lawless prison less sister of mexico. We will catch up to Mexico but that's not what this forum is about.

[Captain Solo]

Hospital Fear Drives Deaths Within Mexico.

By Natalie Kitroeff and Paulina Villegas Aug. 10,2020 Updated 9:02 am ET.

MEXICO CITY — A gray Suzuki stopped outside the General Hospital of Mexico and deposited a heaving Victor Bailóand at the entrance. He had refused to come to the hospital for days, convinced that doctors were killing coronavirus patients. By the time he hobbled into the triage area and collapsed on the floor, it was too late.

"Papito, breathe!" his wife screamed. "Please breathe. ".

Within an hour, Mr. Bailóand was dead.

Mexico is battling one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks in the world, with more than 52,000 confirmed deaths, the third-highest toll of the pandemic. And its struggle has been made even harder by a pervasive phenomenon: a deeply rooted fear of hospitals.

The problem has long plagued nations overwhelmed by unfamiliar diseases. During the Ebola epidemic in 2014, many in Sierra Leone believed that hospitals had become hopeless death traps, leading sick people to stay home and inadvertently spread the disease to their families and neighbors.

Here in Mexico, a similar vicious cycle is taking place. As the pandemic crushes an already weak health care system, with bodies piling up in refrigerated trucks, many Mexicans see the Covid ward as a place where only death awaits — to be avoided at all cost.

The consequences, doctors, nurses and health ministers say, are severe. Mexicans are waiting to seek medical care until their cases are so bad that doctors can do little to help them. Thousands are dying before ever seeing the inside of a hospital, government data show, succumbing to the virus in taxis on the way there or in sickbeds at home.

Fighting infections at home may not only spread the disease more widely, epidemiologists say, but it also hides the true toll of the epidemic because an untold number of people die without ever being tested — and officially counted — as coronavirus victims.

Many Mexicans say they have good reason to be wary of hospitals: Nearly 40 percent of people hospitalized with confirmed cases of the virus in Mexico City, the epicenter of the nation's outbreak, end up dying, government data show, a high mortality rate even when compared with some of the worst coronavirus hot spots worldwide. During the peak of the pandemic in New York City, less than 25 percent of coronavirus patients died in hospitals, studies have estimated.

While the statistic may be imprecise because of limited testing, doctors and researchers confirmed that a startling number of people are dying in Mexico's hospitals.

During a surge of cases in May, almost half of all Covid-19 deaths in Mexico City hospitals occurred within 12 hours of the patient's being admitted, said Dr. Oliva López Arellano, Mexico City's health minister.

In the United States, people who died typically made it five days in the hospital.

Doctors say more patients would survive if they sought help earlier. Delaying treatment, they argue, simply leads to more deaths in hospitals — which then generates even more fear of hospitals.

The distrust is so pronounced that relatives of patients in Ecatepec, a municipality outside Mexico City, stormed a hospital in May, attacking its employees, filming themselves next to bags of corpses and telling reporters that the institution was killing their loved ones.

"After seeing videos of what happens to people inside hospitals, screw that," said Mr. Bailóand's brother, José Eduardo, who had recently spent 60 days at home recovering from his own about with what he believes was the coronavirus. "I'the rather stay home and die there."

But many people who die at home in Mexico — or even on the way to the hospital — are never tested for the virus, so they are not counted as coronavirus victims. Instead, they fall into a statistical black hole of fatalities that are not officially tied to the pandemic.

Even by the official count, Mexico has already suffered more coronavirus deaths than any other nation but the United States and Brazil. And the government said recently that during a period of over three months this spring, there were 71,000 more deaths than expected, compared with previous years — an indication that the virus has claimed many more lives than the official tally suggests.

Adding to the confusion, political leaders here, as in many countries, have sown doubts about the virus and the need to seek medical care. The hugely popular president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, said he uses religious amulets and his clean conscience to protect against the coronavirus, and he has advocated fighting the pandemic at home, with the help of families, rather than in hospitals.

Nearly 70 percent of Mexicans said they would feel "unsafe" taking their loved ones to the hospital during the pandemic, in a survey published last month. A third said they would prefer to care for their relatives themselves.

Now the nation's top health officials have begun pleading with Mexicans to stop resisting medical care.

"It's very important that late care doesn't contribute to death," Hugo López-Gatell, the health official leading the country's response to the virus, said at a news conference last month. "Please, go to hospitals early, especially people who are most at risk."

Many are wary of the costs that come with a hospital stay. And in a country plagued by rampant government corruption, the fundamental distrust of the authorities often extends to doctors and nurses in public hospitals.

At the General Hospital in Mexico City, where Mr. Bailón died, suspicion was running high. No one had wanted to come to the hospital, a place that seemed to swallow their loved ones and leave them outside, with few updates to calm the nerves. Everyone had a theory about the real cause of the virus and the destruction it had unleashed.

Modesto Gómez, whose wife was inside, heard the government was letting elderly people die of the virus because they had expensive pensions. Héctor Mauricio Ortega, whose father was intubated there with a Covid infection, said he believed doctors were purposely infecting people with the virus "because countries have a quota of people who need to die every year."

Raúl Pérez woke up in a panic on the benches outside the entrance. It was his 16th day sleeping there after his sister went in for brain surgery.

He said he had met seven families of patients who had come in for another illness and then died of the coronavirus.

"People think maybe they're injecting them with something or killing them in there," he said.

Mr. Pérez didn't believe the rumors at first, but then doctors told him that his sister, who was still intubated after her brain surgery, had tested positive for coronavirus. Now he was frantic, calling all of his relatives, telling them the hospital wanted his sister dead.

"They are letting people get infected," he said. "They just want to get rid of one more patient. ".

Dr. López, Mexico City's health minister, said that rumors of malicious medical practices had been widespread. Doctors were supposedly stealing the fluid from people's knees, or trading their fingerprint data gleaned from oximeter readings.

Dr. Ernesto Nepomuceno said that in his clinic in Iztapalapa, a poor neighborhood in Mexico City, doctors perform oximeter readings on themselves to show patients that they are measuring oxygen levels, not recording personal data.

"We have to make great efforts to put people at ease," Dr. Nepomuceno said.

Two days before Mr. Bailón was wheeled into the General Hospital's intensive care unit, he visited a doctor in his tiny hometown an hour outside the capital. His oxygen levels were low, but he begged his wife, Fabiola Palma Rodríguez, not to drive him to the hospital.

"Please don't take me there, I don't want to die," she recalled him telling her. By the time Mr. Bailóand relented, he was already ravaged by the disease.

After a local hospital turned him away, he made the trip to Mexico City. He died on a stretcher in the General Hospital, Ms. Palma said, before doctors could intubate him.

"I would have taken him earlier, but we were both too scared," Ms. Palma said. "It is so unfair. I took him there alive and brought him back home dead the same day."

Aurora Arzate Nieves died on the same day as Mr. Bailóand, in the same hospital, about 30 hours after being admitted. The matriarch of a tightly knit Mexican family, Ms. Arzate, 83, was known for her green mole dish and strong will. Her sons practically had to drag her to the hospital.

That decision was tormenting Eduardo Gutiérrez Arzate as he said a final goodbye to his mother, who was zipped into a bag inside a Ford minivan converted into a hearse by a funeral company near the hospital.

Pawing at the window, Mr. Gutiérrez begged his mother to wake up.

"I felt really guilty when I saw her," he said, standing outside the crematory, black smoke billowing overhead.

She was scared of everything having to do with the coronavirus and of hospitals, where she'the be surrounded by "depressed people," instead of by her family.

"I asked her in that moment to forgive me," he said. "I asked her to forgive me for taking her to the hospital. ".

[Captain Solo]

Chicago's fancy, brand-name stores were all toast.

Mexico sure looks safer and more civilized than the US.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/100-arrested-mass-looting-breaks-145451275.html

100 arrested after mass looting breaks out in Chicago.

Reuters VideosAugust 10,2020, 7:54 AM.

Brown called the outbreak "pure criminality," and Mayor Lori Lightfoot sought to distance the incident from the "righteous uprising" in response to the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police on May 25. "This was not an organized protest. Rather this was an incident of pure criminality," Brown told a news conference. At least 13 officers were injured, and a security guard and a civilian were struck by gunfire, Brown said. Social media images showed storefronts bashed in and people fleeing stores with arms full of goods, with much of the action taking place along Michigan Avenue, the upscale commercial district known as the Magnificent Mile. People were drawn by a number of social media posts encouraging looting in central Chicago after tensions flared following the police shooting of a man with a gun, Brown said.

Cyclist Surveys Damage During Night of Looting in Chicago.

StoryfulAugust 10,2020, 5:29 AM.

Hundreds of looters descended on downtown Chicago in the early hours of August 10, "smashing windows, looting stores, clashing with police and at one point exchanging gunfire with officers," the Chicago Tribune said. Video by Cortri Trotter shows looting at various stores in the city, including Bloomingdale's and Yves Saint-Laurent. The looting followed angry scenes in the city's Englewood neighborhood after police shot what they said was an armed suspect who had opened fire on officers in pursuit. The suspect and three officers were taken to hospital, police said. Credit: Cortri Trotter via Storyful.

[LuvMexicanas]

Chicago's fancy, brand-name stores were all toast.

Mexico sure looks safer and more civilized than the US.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/100-arrested-mass-looting-breaks-145451275.html

100 arrested after mass looting breaks out in Chicago.

Reuters VideosAugust 10,2020, 7:54 AM.

Brown called the outbreak "pure criminality," and Mayor Lori Lightfoot sought to distance the incident from the "righteous uprising" in response to the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police on May 25. "This was not an organized protest. Rather this was an incident of pure criminality," Brown told a news conference. At least 13 officers were injured, and a security guard and a civilian were struck by gunfire, Brown said. Social media images showed storefronts bashed in and people fleeing stores with arms full of goods, with much of the action taking place along Michigan Avenue, the upscale commercial district known as the Magnificent Mile. People were drawn by a number of social media posts encouraging looting in central Chicago after tensions flared following the police shooting of a man with a gun, Brown said.

Cyclist Surveys Damage During Night of Looting in Chicago.And Americans regularly say Mexico is lawless. We should really focus on cleaning up our own backyard before we go knocking on our neighbor's door.

[Dogers69]

Chicago's fancy, brand-name stores were all toast.

Mexico sure looks safer and more civilized than the US.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/100-arrested-mass-looting-breaks-145451275.html

100 arrested after mass looting breaks out in Chicago.

Reuters VideosAugust 10,2020, 7:54 AM.

Brown called the outbreak "pure criminality," and Mayor Lori Lightfoot sought to distance the incident from the "righteous uprising" in response to the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police on May 25. "This was not an organized protest. Rather this was an incident of pure criminality," Brown told a news conference. At least 13 officers were injured, and a security guard and a civilian were struck by gunfire, Brown said. Social media images showed storefronts bashed in and people fleeing stores with arms full of goods, with much of the action taking place along Michigan Avenue, the upscale commercial district known as the Magnificent Mile..I saw this 1st hand in Manhattan 2 months ago. Walked around for 6 hours watching everyone looting, dudes would stop their car, keep it running while they jumped through the broken windows, saw 30 people spend 20 minutes to break into best buy while 20 cops watched across street. They were given stand down orders from mayor. The whole night only people arrested were NYC flagship Macy's, and the guys trying to break into off duty cop cars. Even people setting cop cars on fire in front of 200 cops were not arrested. I must of saw 30 out of state cars looting and 500 looters easily all with 2 to 3 garbage bags full by 3 am.

[Captain Solo]

Trump considers a rule that would block Americans thought to have the virus from returning home.

President Trump is considering new immigration regulations that would allow border officials to temporarily block American citizens and legal permanent residents from returning to the United States from abroad if authorities believe they may be infected with the coronavirus.

In recent months, Mr. Trump has imposed sweeping rules that ban entry by foreigners into the United States, citing the risk of allowing the virus to spread from hot spots abroad. But those rules have exempted two categories of people attempting to return: American citizens and noncitizens who have already established legal residence.

Now, a draft regulation would expand the government's power to prevent entry by citizens and legal residents in individual, limited circumstances. Federal agencies have been asked to submit feedback on the proposal to the White House by Tuesday, though it is unclear when it might be approved or announced.

Under the proposal, which relies on existing legal authorities of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the government could block a citizen or legal resident from crossing the border into the United States if an official "reasonably believes that the individual either may have been exposed to or is infected with the communicable disease."

The draft, parts of which were obtained by The Times, explicitly says that any order blocking citizens and legal permanent residents must "include appropriate protections to ensure that no Constitutional rights are infringed. " And it says that citizens and legal residents cannot be blocked as an entire class of people.

The documents appear not to detail how long a citizen or legal resident would be required to remain outside of the United States.

The draft memo says the prohibition on the introduction of USA Citizens or legal residents from abroad would apply "only in the rarest of circumstances," and "when required in the interest of public health, and be limited in duration."

Still if Mr. Trump approves the change, it would be an escalation of his government's longstanding attempts to seal the border against what he considers to be threats, using the existence of the coronavirus pandemic as a justification for taking actions that would have been seen as draconian in other contexts.

A spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security declined to comment. A spokesman for the see. The. See. Said late Monday afternoon that he would seek to gather more information about the proposal.

It is unclear whether there are any existing rules that would allow American citizens and legal residents to be prohibited from returning to the United States for a period of time because of concerns about a communicable disease. Immigration officials have broad authority to deny entry to people based on national security issues.

The rule appears to apply to all points of entry into the United States, including at airports and along both the northern and southern borders. In particular, the draft could impact the border with Mexico, where many American citizens and legal residents cross back and forth frequently.

The rule notes the prevalence of the coronavirus in Mexico as evidence of the need for the modified rule, citing the death on August 2 of the health minister in the Mexican border state of Chihuahua, who the order says died of Covid-19 after a two week hospitalization.

[ClamSlammer]

I saw this 1st hand in Manhattan 2 months ago. Walked around for 6 hours watching everyone looting, dudes would stop their car, keep it running while they jumped through the broken windows, saw 30 people spend 20 minutes to break into best buy while 20 cops watched across street. They were given stand down orders from mayor. The whole night only people arrested were NYC flagship Macy's, and the guys trying to break into off duty cop cars. Even people setting cop cars on fire in front of 200 cops were not arrested. I must of saw 30 out of state cars looting and 500 looters easily all with 2 to 3 garbage bags full by 3 am.You witnessed none of this, just the same as you didn't witness Mexican seniors with guns to their heads who listed and closed their homes within a week. When pressed, you admitted you lied and it was just a rumor you heard. Same case here. You can't see "1st hand" events that did not happen. Nobody believes that 200 cops just stood there munching popcorn while a cop car was set on fire right in front of them. Cops arrested people breaking into "off duty" cop cars (there's no such thing" but did nothing when their cars were set on fire? Well, normally wouldn't you break into a car first, then set fire to the interior?

[MikeyMae]

Trump considers a rule that would block Americans thought to have the virus from returning home.

President Trump is considering new immigration regulations that would allow border officials to temporarily block American citizens and legal permanent residents from returning to the United States from abroad if authorities believe they may be infected with the coronavirus.
.So this ISN'T a total coincidence then?

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-09/new-covid-19-testing-site-set-to-open-near-pedestrian-crossing-in-san-ysidro-along-u-s-mexico-border

[Captain Solo]

Mikey.

This COVid test site at Ped East is operated by San Diego county, has nothing to do with federal gov or CBP. It's a full test, not a quick temp check.

You bring up a valid question. How would CBP determine which travelers are infected or potential carriers? They would have to do at least a quick temperature check with hand-held skin temp sensors. Would hate to let CBP agents use their gut feels alone to decide which travelers can pass and who have to stay in Mexico.

All businesses, shops, stores, restaurants, hotels in Tijuana are distancing, checking temp, sanitizing hands, wiping shoes on wet pads to prevent the virus spread. None of those procedures are being implemented anywhere in California. So which country is more serious about stopping the spread?

It may be prudent to print out a negative test result ans show to CBP agents of asked. Don't want to stay in Mexico longer after popping a few chicas.

[ScatManDoo]

I saw this 1st hand in Manhattan 2 months ago. Walked around for 6 hours watching everyone looting, dudes would stop their car, keep it running while they jumped through the broken windowsYou would think these out-of-town looters would get their cars stolen by the local poorer (carless) looters.

That would have to of been better and easier than breaking into police cars in front of 200 cops.


The whole night only people arrested were NYC flagship Macy's, and the guys trying to break into off duty cop cars. Even people setting cop cars on fire in front of 200 cops were not arrested. I must of saw 30 out of state cars looting and 500 looters easily all with 2 to 3 garbage bags full by 3 am.

[Dogers69]

Mikey.

This COVid test site at Ped East is operated by San Diego county, has nothing to do with federal gov or CBP. It's a full test, not a quick temp check.

You bring up a valid question. How would CBP determine which travelers are infected or potential carriers? They would have to do at least a quick temperature check with hand-held skin temp sensors. Would hate to let CBP agents use their gut feels alone to decide which travelers can pass and who have to stay in Mexico.

All businesses, shops, stores, restaurants, hotels in Tijuana are distancing, checking temp, sanitizing hands, wiping shoes on wet pads to prevent the virus spread. None of those procedures are being implemented anywhere in California. So which country is more serious about stopping the spread?

It may be prudent to print out a negative test result ans show to CBP agents of asked. Don't want to stay in Mexico longer after popping a few chicas.I will believe it when I see it. Just can't imagine mexico allowing gringos to be in Mexico if sick. A big concern would be if you hit Tijuana by 2 pm felt little sick by 10 pm by morning you can't stop coughing, by noon ubtry go back, but can't stop coughing. Do they make you quarantine in San Diego someplace? They have hotel rooms lined up for those needing quarantine.

[Kepaej]

Hey guys!

Just wondering about traveling across. Just good with a passport to cross back and forth walking across the border?

Haven't been since covid.

[YyzTravel]

Hey guys!

Just wondering about traveling across. Just good with a passport to cross back and forth walking across the border?

Haven't been since covid.Passport only is fine. Just need to have a "reason" to go. Just cite medical and have a place in mind. (Smile builders was my go to for "dental work".

[Mtndew704]

Is the SG scene about the same risk factor as El Centro in Medellin Colombia? Thinking about making my 1st trip to Tijuana since Colombia doesn't appear to be opening anytime soon.

[Captain Solo]

My post was about testing Americans and residents returning to the US.

Trump may send Exec Order to deny return to people with CoVid symptoms. But how CBP agents will test and how effective are the tests? A large percentage of carriers show no obvious symptoms. Hate to get stuck in Tijuana just because the CBP agents are on the rags and get pissed off at any male.

[Dogers69]

Passport only is fine. Just need to have a "reason" to go. Just cite medical and have a place in mind. (Smile builders was my go to for "dental work".There's a new us border patrol desk, turnstiles, right before you walk into mexico. 4 employees. It was busy so I didn't get questioned. But looks like they are not satisfied with nexixos crackdown on travelers otherwise why have the new checkpoint. This was San Ysidro pedestrian crossing Saturday. If I traveled far to get here I'd have a medical problem more complex then dental to be sure I can get through.

[Jinxx]

Is the SG scene about the same risk factor as El Centro in Medellin Colombia? Thinking about making my 1st trip to Tijuana since Colombia doesn't appear to be opening anytime soon.Basically yes. The biggest difference is the police. The Tijuana Zona Norte cops are some mean, dirty, crooked bastards. Colombian cops are kind of dirty too but they're not as mean and aggressive as Tijuana cops. Just stay where the main bars are and don't wonder off the beaten path. Don't walk around with contraband and don't walk around stumbling drunk(basically don't do the stuff that I do jaja), and you'll be just fine.

[Captain Solo]

Sunday before last week I withdrew pesos from the ATM next to La Caretta, the only transaction with that card in months. This morning thieves made 4 withdrawals totaling over $600 in a village somewhere in Europe. Last weekend that machine was out of service. So the ATMs in front of La Caretta's are definitely hacked. I used debit cards in HK and Cascada many years with no problems. The unguarded ATMs are probably all hacked.

Last month I used AMEX in Azul's. A few days later some thieves used it to buy hundreds dollar worth of pizzas at Pizza Huts in Missouri. Not 100% sure because I use it online a lot, but Azul's terminal may also be rigged. I hope instead of chasing hoes and mongers on the streets, LE investigate and prosecute these thieves.

ATMs, debit cards, credit cards are no longer safe anywhere. Don't know how banks and card companies settle these losses. While I am not liable, I hate to see card companies lose money to thieves. Will bring cash and exchange in Tijuana in the future. Safer.

[Amcaps]

Sunday before last week I withdrew pesos from the ATM next to La Caretta, the only transaction with that card in months. This morning thieves made 4 withdrawals totaling over $600 in a village somewhere in Europe. Last weekend that machine was out of service. So the ATMs in front of La Caretta's are definitely hacked. I used debit cards in HK and Cascada many years with no problems. The unguarded ATMs are probably all hacked.

Last month I used AMEX in Azul's. A few days later some thieves used it to buy hundreds dollar worth of pizzas at Pizza Huts in Missouri. Not 100% sure because I use it online a lot, but Azul's terminal may also be rigged. I hope instead of chasing hoes and mongers on the streets, LE investigate and prosecute these thieves.

ATMs, debit cards, credit cards are no longer safe anywhere. Don't know how banks and card companies settle these losses. While I am not liable, I hate to see card companies lose money to thieves. Will bring cash and exchange in Tijuana in the future. Safer.Hi, this is my first post on this forum.

I used my debit card at two different locations. 1 at Sam's club Tijuana and the second at AB ATM. So I'm not sure where my card was cloned from. Bad people tried to withdraw 2 $ 260 transactions from an ATM in Florida, this happened to me yesterday, so I called the bank and canceled the card. The good thing is that I have a habit of freezing my card when it is not in use. This morning it was another attempt but the same result.

[Artisttyp]

Sunday before last week I withdrew pesos from the ATM next to La Caretta, the only transaction with that card in months. This morning thieves made 4 withdrawals totaling over $600 in a village somewhere in Europe. Last weekend that machine was out of service. So the ATMs in front of La Caretta's are definitely hacked. I used debit cards in HK and Cascada many years with no problems. The unguarded ATMs are probably all hacked.

Last month I used AMEX in Azul's. A few days later some thieves used it to buy hundreds dollar worth of pizzas at Pizza Huts in Missouri. Not 100% sure because I use it online a lot, but Azul's terminal may also be rigged. I hope instead of chasing hoes and mongers on the streets, LE investigate and prosecute these thieves.

ATMs, debit cards, credit cards are no longer safe anywhere. Don't know how banks and card companies settle these losses. While I am not liable, I hate to see card companies lose money to thieves. Will bring cash and exchange in Tijuana in the future. Safer.Why would you use an ATM in a red light district which probably has connections to the cartels? At the very least have a separate travel account which you can leave thread bare if need be depending on your travel needs.

[YyzTravel]

Sunday before last week I withdrew pesos from the ATM next to La Caretta, the only transaction with that card in months. This morning thieves made 4 withdrawals totaling over $600 in a village somewhere in Europe. Last weekend that machine was out of service. So the ATMs in front of La Caretta's are definitely hacked. I used debit cards in HK and Cascada many years with no problems. The unguarded ATMs are probably all hacked.

Last month I used AMEX in Azul's. A few days later some thieves used it to buy hundreds dollar worth of pizzas at Pizza Huts in Missouri. Not 100% sure because I use it online a lot, but Azul's terminal may also be rigged. I hope instead of chasing hoes and mongers on the streets, LE investigate and prosecute these thieves.

ATMs, debit cards, credit cards are no longer safe anywhere. Don't know how banks and card companies settle these losses. While I am not liable, I hate to see card companies lose money to thieves. Will bring cash and exchange in Tijuana in the future. Safer.Sorry to hear it Solo. I only use cash. I have a card on case of me in emergency, but would go to a bank, withdraw cash, and then freeze the card. Helps me stay to a budget to. Really easy to think "I will just withdraw more" when you see the tits on a girl if you don't already have a budget plan.

[Captain Solo]

Amcaps.

It was a Schwab card for withdrawing cash in overseas travel with only a few $K in it. The thieves withdrew over $600 in Altos de CHAVON HIGUEY in the Dominican Republic. The card company said the transactions were denied, but the money was shown as taken from my account. I hope Schwab knows what it's doing. If Schwab cannot protect its cards then I will sue them if they don't refund me.

I have to freeze my cards from now on. Never heard of freezing cards. How do you freeze them?

[Captain Solo]

Artiste,

It's a Schwab card with low balance for travel. I travel all over Asia using this cards to draw cash in 2019 without any problem. I used this and other debit cards at the ATMs in HK and Cascada and the Scotia ATM next to Adelita for years, never had problems. But those ATMs are now closed, just like those in the big banks on Revo. I had to use the machines in the alley or I have to go home with blue balls and dick in hand.

I used the AMEX card in Azul's in July this year, the next week thieves bought over $400 worth of pizzas from Pizza Huts. Azul's swiped my card twice for the same bill, so one of the swipes was most likely to clone info. CoVid19 produced millions of hungry thieves and ugly criminals in the last few months. No place is safe anymore.

The last time I had problem with a Visa card 5 years ago, the thieves bought over $5 K worth of appliances before the card company block the card. They told me they would just split the loss in half with the retailers. LEs are too busy chasing hos and jacking off in their squad cars. They won't do any investigation so cannot prosecute.

Last week I brought cash and exchanged for pesos at a booth on Calle 2. The bank exchange rate is 22 pesos to $1, but Tijuana cambios gave me only 19.1. I lost 3 pesos for every 20 so I lost 450 pesos for the 3,000 pesos I exchanged. The cambio bastards ate 15% of my money! You still get much better rates withdrawing money from banks. I have to find safe ways to draw cash in Tijuana or order pesos from my retail banks, but It's a pain in the ass to wait in long distancing lines to get inside the branch to wait some more.

Any bros or CPAs know of good, safe, convenient ways to draw pesos in Tijuana?

[Artisttyp]

I have to freeze my cards from now on. Never heard of freezing cards. How do you freeze them?If you suspect fraud call your bank immediately. Write down the Intl customer service number located on a separate sheet of paper that is on the back of your card and keep it somewhere safe and accessible. When you CALL they will freeze your card. No call No freeze unless the fraud dept picks up on it by chance. Usually after repetitive charges. At least that was what happened to me in America from online shopping.

[Amcaps]

Amcaps.

It was a Schwab card for withdrawing cash in overseas travel with only a few $K in it. The thieves withdrew over $600 in Altos de CHAVON HIGUEY in the Dominican Republic. The card company said the transactions were denied, but the money was shown as taken from my account. I hope Schwab knows what it's doing. If Schwab cannot protect its cards then I will sue them if they don't refund me.

I have to freeze my cards from now on. Never heard of freezing cards. How do you freeze them?Hello Captain,

I also have the Schwab card. So what I do to freeze and unfreeze (Schwab calls it Lock and Unlock) is go to mobile app = Press settings (three lines in upper left corner) = Go to Customer Service / Manage cards = Then find the lock / unlock card.

From the website it is almost the same: go to the Service Menu at the top of the website = Click on Debit Cards & Checks = And then find the card and press the lock knob.

Amcaps.

[Jinxx]

Sunday before last week I withdrew pesos from the ATM next to La Caretta, the only transaction with that card in months. This morning thieves made 4 withdrawals totaling over $600 in a village somewhere in Europe. Last weekend that machine was out of service. So the ATMs in front of La Caretta's are definitely hacked. I used debit cards in HK and Cascada many years with no problems. The unguarded ATMs are probably all hacked.

Last month I used AMEX in Azul's. A few days later some thieves used it to buy hundreds dollar worth of pizzas at Pizza Huts in Missouri. Not 100% sure because I use it online a lot, but Azul's terminal may also be rigged. I hope instead of chasing hoes and mongers on the streets, LE investigate and prosecute these thieves.

ATMs, debit cards, credit cards are no longer safe anywhere. Don't know how banks and card companies settle these losses. While I am not liable, I hate to see card companies lose money to thieves. Will bring cash and exchange in Tijuana in the future. Safer.I've had good luck with the ATM's that are west of HK entrance with a glass door entrance and has a guard at night some times. I've used those ATM's several times without issues.

The outdoor ATM's by Adelita's are the dirtiest ones. I tried to pull out 3000 and not only did it not dispense the cash, the next morning I get text message alerts about suspicious charges being made in Mexico City so I had to call my bank and deal with that mess.

[Captain Solo]

In 2019 I traveled all over Asia, used the Schwab card to withdraw money everywhere I went, never had a problem. It was impossible to carry lots of cash on long trips, especially where you cannot find banks to exchange money. ATMs are the most convenient means to withdraw local currencies.

This was the fourth time I used it at the ATM in front of La Caretta. Within 2 weeks, thieves hacked the card and withdrew over $600 in Dominican Republic.

Last Wednesday bank exchange rate was 22:1 but most cambios in Tijuana gave only 19:1. For $150 I should have gotten 3,300 pesos but got only 2. 865, lost 435 pesos or about 13% compared to banks. Banks' rate is a lot better. We need to find secured ATMs. Banks on Revo are closed. Will try Sarriano in the plaza on Revo.

[Captain Solo]

Amcaps,

My Schwab debit card shows $600 taken from the account but it has been blocked. I cannot access card features.

Would be nice to unfreeze the card to withdraw money then freeze it again until next use.

The thieves must have installed cards skimming devices inside the ATMs to steal cards' info and PINs. Insiders with access would have to open the machines up and allow thieves to install them. It would be hard for banks to monitor and control all their workers. With all these card thefts I don't know how banks and card companies can survive.

Thanks for your suggestions.

[Captain Solo]

YYZ.

With credit cards, merchants are supposed to check IDs before accepting payments. Pizza Huts did not check IDs for $400 worth of pizzas bought with my AMEX card. So they will have to eat the loss.

Debit cards require PIN to withdraw cash. I checked Caretta's ATMs but found nothing suspicious; the machines looked new and intact. I read some ATMs workers install skimming devices inside the machines to steal cards infos and PINs, then sell them to thieves. When people are hungry, they will do bad things. It's impossible for ATMs companies to secure all their workers who repair and load cash into the machines. I had no problem using my Schwab card to draw cash all over Asia last year, but 2020 is different with CoVid19. After so many problems in the last 3 years, I concluded It's not safe to use cards in any bank anywhere in Mexico.

If you stick to a strict budget, you may be missing out on a lot of hot girls. That's why HK and all bars have ATMs at their doors to help you bag your dream girls. Hehe.

[ClamSlammer]

For those of you that have cards that don't reimburse ATM fees, just beware some banks charge very high fees, ranging from $17-$85 mx. BBVA fees are high along with HSBC. CitiBanamex charges the lowest fees in general. Bancoppel fees are very low but are almost impossible to find, even inside a Bancoppel there will be no ATM's. And if you do find one, as in the one inside Soriana next to Ticuan, 95% of the time they won't dispense cash. Scotiabank, Santander and Banorte are somewhere in between. Also, be aware that the same ATM may charge different fees depending on which bank's debit card you use. I was once at a BBVA ATM with a wingman and I was charged $30 mx while it wanted $85 from my wingman. This was years ago before BBVA jacked up it's fees. Now it wants $85 from me too. Also, different branches of the same bank charge different fees. ATM's aren't reliable in Mexico. They are constantly out of service and at least 3 times I've been denied cash but had by checking account debited anyway.

[ScatManDoo]

In 2019 I traveled all over Asia, used the Schwab card to withdraw money everywhere I went, never had a problem. It was impossible to carry lots of cash on long trips, especially where you cannot find banks to exchange money. ATMs are the most convenient means to withdraw local currencies.

This was the fourth time I used it at the ATM in front of La Caretta. Within 2 weeks, thieves hacked the card and withdrew over $600 in Dominican Republic.

Last Wednesday bank exchange rate was 22:1 but most cambios in Tijuana gave only 19:1. For $150 I should have gotten 3,300 pesos but got only 2. 865, lost 435 pesos or about 13% compared to banks. Banks' rate is a lot better. We need to find secured ATMs. Banks on Revo are closed. Will try Sarriano in the plaza on Revo.For many years I've used the HSBC ATM located inside of Soriana grocery store on Revolution between 3rd and 4th street.

They have a freestanding ATM located advantageously in their store's pharmacy area.

There's almost always one or two pharmacists behind a low counter only about 20 feet away if you need or want assistance, or simply prefer a store employee nearby.

And from the ATM you have a good view of most of the front of the Sorianna store, to be on the lookout for those folks who you might be suspicious of starting trouble.

A couple of times, when using that ATM, I became cautious of someone standing and lingering nearby me. So I just cancelled my ATM transaction (while in process) and just stepped away. I did some additional grocery shopping, while monitoring the ATM & pharmacy area. I returned to the ATM when people cleared out of the pharmacy area.

[Captain Solo]

XE.COM quotes 21.9:1 today.

In San Ysidro:

https://borderxchangemoney.com/

Buys dollar for 21.31 pesos.

Sells dollar for 22.25 pesos.

So they make 0. 6 pesos for every dollar exchanged for pesos. If I exchange $200 they make $12, not bad considering the risks. ATMs fees and international transaction fees with the debit cards.

[AmorPorFavor]

How much $ do you save by paying for chicas ect in pesos vs dollars in Tijuana? Is it worth all the fraud risk problems and other hassles including rip off ATM fees ect? I just bring cash and pay in dollars. Am I blowing it?

[ScatManDoo]

I just bring cash and pay in dollars. Am I blowing it?Let's just stop here and work backwards.

My answer to you is "probably".


Is it worth all the fraud risk problems and other hassles including rip off ATM fees ect? I just bring cash and pay in dollars.You probably see several exchange cambios on every block inside (or near) La Zona.

Typically they will have their Compra rate posted for anyone to see. You will find most of them have only one or two customers in line, or even a free window with no waiting.

Offering to exchange about half of your dollars for pesos at places stating "no commissions" would seem to be free of fraud and hassles and rip-off ATM fees you are seeking to avoid.


How much $ do you save by paying for chicas ect in pesos vs dollars in Tijuana?That depends.

Can often be a lot with street girls in particular.

But when you know roughly the current exchange rate.

And hold both currencies in your pockets.

Whether you are doing your shopping under stated dual pricing.

Or when negotiations with a chica result in clear rates under either currency of your choice.

You get to pick the winner deal, always, without struggle.

[Captain Solo]

In la zona 3 PM. Lots of street girls.

Elizabeth is a hot spinner, worked in HK, pretty smiling face, light skin, flat ab. She wants 700 pesos for todos, good deal compared to her 2,000 peso deal in HK 3 months ago.

[Captain Solo]

Amor.

Most street girls are doing too sexo sin ropa for 300,400,500 pesos. But puta calculators are stuck on 10:1 rate, so they will quote $30,40,50. Using pesos will cut puta expenses by half.

Xe rate is now 21.9:1. Cambios in la zona do 20.3:1 so they take 16 pesos fee for every $. Exchange $200 and I lose 320 pesos or $15 compared to Atms rate.

Need to find secured Atms in Tijuana.

[Captain Solo]

I have a checking account with a major bank.

I never ever used the debit card from that bank. But a few weeks ago thieves drew cash a couple times, totaling over $700.

The bank's data base must have been hacked, because I never used that debit card. I had to close that account. Nothing is safe anymore when people are hungry.

[Captain Solo]

Along E San Ysidro Blvd there are half dozen money exchanges on the West side of the street, near the US Bank, notably https://borderxchangemoney.com/..

Their rates are very close, about 3% below official bank rate. If you exchange $500 you would lose about $15. Using Tijuana cambios You would lose twice as much or $30.

San Ysidro Blvd is desereted now due to CoVid, but I still don't want to get off the freeway just to save $15. Will freeze the debit card then unfreeze immediately before use.

The shifty exchange rates.

[KC Questor]

How much $ do you save by paying for chicas ect in pesos vs dollars in Tijuana? Is it worth all the fraud risk problems and other hassles including rip off ATM fees ect? I just bring cash and pay in dollars. Am I blowing it?
If you are not doing street girls, then the money saved by paying in pesos is lower. Bar girls are used to dollars and their price will usually be the same in either currency. I've had girls pull out a calculator and tell me that their $80 session would be 1520 pesos (back when it was 19:1) -- not 1500, but 1520. Escort agencies are a little slow to change their conversion rates considering they have web sites to update, so you can do OK if the exchange rate has been volatile in the right direction. But it's usually minor.

Also, there is the risk of messing up the conversion and overpaying for things without knowing -- especially if you are not good with math. This is less of an issue now that the peso is over 20:1, so chances are you will round in your favor. But it's still possible to screw things up. I do exchange some dollars for pesos when I visit. Usually under $200 over 3-4 days. That's enough for the street girls, plus some for stores or taxis outside the zona. I also don't bother with ATMs. I bring cash and exchange it as needed.

[Skwscrod]

Well, I still feel stupid, but a little less knowing there's more out there. For the first time I used an ATM outside Adelita's last month. Waiting to get reimbursed about $4 k that got withdrawn over a week in Fla. Considering I use physical debit card maybe once a month it kinda has to be from there, ugh.

[Captain Solo]

Skwscrod.

I used debit and credit cards for most payment in US and overseas. I rarely pay with cash.

Last year my wingman and I used the Multiva ATMs next to Valentina. Next week we both got robbed.

Couple weeks ago I paid for meals at Azul's with AMEX. The next week thieves charged it a couple hundred dollars in odd numbers, like they were buying something, not drawing cash. Amex caught it quickly and called me. They also pointed out a $9. 95 fraud charge before the large numbers. Amex customer service is probably the best.

I use the Schwab debit card strictly out of the country to avoid international fees, In 2019 I used it all over Asia. Did not have any problems. Starting in July after Tijuana bars reopened, I used it couple times at the Cahsola ATMs next to Caretta. Next week thieves charged it for purchases in odd dollar numbers, not the multiple $20 withdrawals. Schwab fraud detectives called and texted me. I told them not authorized. They said I was not liable, call Customer Service to replace the card. The phone wait was longer than an hour, then the line got cut off. Chat line was on hold, then did not work. Schwab's customer service is shit.

Me too.

[Phordphan]

I think I'll use this ATM on the street, in one of the most crime infested and dangerous parts of the city. What could go wrong?

[Skwscrod]

I think I'll use this ATM on the street, in one of the most crime infested and dangerous parts of the city. What could go wrong?Yea, totally my own dumbassery. I usually bring cash, a single credit card and my passport card. Dunno what I was thinking other than maybe in Covid-world I might need cash quickly. Sadly I didn't even end up using what I withdrew.

[Captain Solo]

Thieves cloned my AMEX and bought 4 orders from Pizza Huts worth over $400. Charges were quickly reversed. AMEX's customer service agents in Manilla were cute and good.

I used the Schwab card only at the Cashola ATMs in front of Carreta 3 times no problem. The last time it was cloned. Thieves in Dominican Republic made 4 draws, converting to odd dollar figures around $700. Schwab fraud detectives called then texted me the same day and declined the charges. Don't know if they ever get the cash back. I called Schwab's customer service in Phoenix today. They reversed the 4 draws and send me a new card. So Schwab is not too bad.

I doth want to deal with these credit card frauds too often. Will pay in pesos in Tijuana from now on.

[TJLee]

My theft proof method, always locked my mongering card when not in use, thru the app, and it's safe from many attempts in the US. Schwab will make my deposit fund available the next day if I deposit a money order to myself thru the app.

[Captain Solo]

TJLee.

You can lock your card up, unlock it before use, then lock it up again with the mobile app.

I will have to do it in my next trip to Asia or Europe.

My theft proof method, always locked my mongering card when not in use, thru the app, and it's safe from many attempts in the US. Schwab will make my deposit fund available the next day if I deposit a money order to myself thru the app.


My theft proof method, always locked my mongering card when not in use, thru the app, and it's safe from many attempts in the US. Schwab will make my deposit fund available the next day if I deposit a money order to myself thru the app.

[RickyVee]

I always use major bank chains in Tijuana. Bancomer has 24 hour ATMs in zona rio never had an issue. I withdraw before I hit the zona. If you need to reup pesos use the ATM on revo inside Caliente casino a short walk from the zona it's an Affirme bank never had an issue with cloned cards.

[Captain Solo]

RickyVee.

I never used a debit card with my checking account in a major retail bank, but the account was hacked for $700. Hackers can clone cards but can also break into bank's databases.

I suspect ATMs with major banks in Tijuana on Revo may be safer, but there is still no guarantee. It's a long walk and I would save only $15 for each exchange on San Ysidro Blvd. So we just have to stop in downtown San Ysidro to exchange cash to pesos.

Long term I would order a few thousands pesos from my bank and just hang onto them until I go to La Zona. Thanks for your suggestions. May be guys who walk to Revo will use those banck.

[Ctytek]

There are a couple of very basic rules to follow, to never have any issues with skimmed ATM or Credit Cards:

- get cash in dollars rom a major US Bank ATM - * on the US side.

- exchange portion of dollars for pesos in San Ysidro, before crossing over (to get the best rate).

- lock your cash in hotel safe, upon arrival to Tijuana.

- pay in cash and in pesos for everything you can, while in Tijuana.

- do not use ATM cards or Credit Cards in Tijuana!

Follow these simple rules and you will never have an issue. The advise about "freezing cards" is just over complicating things, and won't protect you from getting skimmed.

[TJLee]

Ctytek,

That's the most convenient way and about 90% of mongers do, but it also make them a walking ATMs for corrupt cops & drivers. Having been pulled over by cops from taxis & ubers from border to zona or reversed, I'm not going to bring over $20 on me. I used the clubs' ATMs 4 times a day as needed. I also bring money orders made to myself instead of cash to deposit for next day use.

[Phordphan]

There are a couple of very basic rules to follow, to never have any issues with skimmed ATM or Credit Cards:

- get cash in dollars rom a major US Bank ATM - * on the US side.

- exchange portion of dollars for pesos in San Ysidro, before crossing over (to get the best rate).

- lock your cash in hotel safe, upon arrival to Tijuana.

- pay in cash and in pesos for everything you can, while in Tijuana.

- do not use ATM cards or Credit Cards in Tijuana!

Follow these simple rules and you will never have an issue. The advise about "freezing cards" is just over complicating things, and won't protect you from getting skimmed.I use credit cards and ATM cards all over Tijuana EXCEPT for the Zona Norte. Never had a problem.

[Hargow20]

I have not had any problems either. But the only ATM machines I trust are the ones at the major banks like HSBC. I avoid the ATM's and carry the cash I need. I do carry a ATM card for emergency's. The ATM card is the only card I bring with me. If I get robbed the ATM is easier to replace.


I use credit cards and ATM cards all over Tijuana EXCEPT for the Zona Norte. Never had a problem.

[Centurion200]

lock your cash in hotel safe, upon arrival to Tijuana..I agree that it's best to use cash only, but I can't bring myself to trust hotel safes in Mexico. They're are broken half the time, anyway, but I worry about how secure they really are from the hotel employees. Isn't there a master code or something they use to assist people who've forgotten their combination?

I use a travel safe. It's a heavy nylon bag reinforced with steel cable that I can padlock and anchor to pipes or furniture. I usually put it out of sight inside a buttoned shirt hanging in the closet, with the locking cable looped over the bar. Mine is made by Pacsafe, but there are several other manufacturers.

Won't stop a determined thief with some real tools, like boltcutters, but certainly works for opportunists or your casual burglars.

[Dogers69]

I agree that it's best to use cash only, but I can't bring myself to trust hotel safes in Mexico. They're are broken half the time, anyway, but I worry about how secure they really are from the hotel employees. Isn't there a master code or something they use to assist people who've forgotten their combination?

I use a travel safe. It's a heavy nylon bag reinforced with steel cable that I can padlock and anchor to pipes or furniture. I usually put it out of sight inside a buttoned shirt hanging in the closet, with the locking cable looped over the bar. Mine is made by Pacsafe, but there are several other manufacturers.

Won't stop a determined thief with some real tools, like boltcutters, but certainly works for opportunists or your casual burglars.I wouldn't do this. It attracts attention. ID put a computer and phone I can afford to lose in a safe, personally, my approach is leave 5 bucks on top of your stuff, if someone comes in the room they may take the 5 bucks and go. I left a broken laptop in my car, eventually the tow truck driver or mechanic stole it. People can break thick bike lots in few seconds. I had my backpack chained to amtrak seat on the floor, got up for 5 minutes, return to somebody in my seat slicing it up because the chain attracts attention. Its like a sign to criminal "this is the bag you want to steal".

[Artisttyp]

I agree that it's best to use cash only, but I can't bring myself to trust hotel safes in Mexico. They're are broken half the time, anyway, but I worry about how secure they really are from the hotel employees. Isn't there a master code or something they use to assist people who've forgotten their combination?

I use a travel safe. It's a heavy nylon bag reinforced with steel cable that I can padlock and anchor to pipes or furniture. I usually put it out of sight inside a buttoned shirt hanging in the closet, with the locking cable looped over the bar. Mine is made by Pacsafe, but there are several other manufacturers.

Won't stop a determined thief with some real tools, like boltcutters, but certainly works for opportunists or your casual burglars.I have been using a Pacsafe for years. As an added layer of protection I never have it visible. What I do is put in in a locked suitcase then lock the suitcase AND the PacSafe to wherever. That way Someone would need to rip apart the suitcase first before they were confronted with the PacSAfe. Not highly unlikely that it could be done but it presents more of a challenge to thieves and less time efficient from a grab and dash perspective.

There are also many other creative stash options available on Ebay or Etsy. It just takes time and putting some thought into it.

Another option is to use the Pacsafe IN A SAFE. Most safes have a master key which management has.....just a thought to ponder.

[Ctytek]

I agree that it's best to use cash only, but I can't bring myself to trust hotel safes in Mexico. They're are broken half the time, anyway, but I worry about how secure they really are from the hotel employees. Isn't there a master code or something they use to assist people who've forgotten their combination?.Possibly true, if you stay at fleabag hotels in ZN, which I never do. Ticuan Hotel rooms have solid fireproof safes, and I have never heard of anyone having an issue with those. I am sure hotel management has the master key, but I am certain cleaning staff has no way to open those.

Bringing your own travel safes and locking those in larger suitcases. That's massively overthinking and over complicating things. Great if it works for you, but I couldn't be bothered.

[Dcrist0527]

Possibly true, if you stay at fleabag hotels in ZN, which I never do. Ticuan Hotel rooms have solid fireproof safes, and I have never heard of anyone having an issue with those. I am sure hotel management has the master key, but I am certain cleaning staff has no way to open those.

Bringing your own travel safes and locking those in larger suitcases. That's massively overthinking and over complicating things. Great if it works for you, but I couldn't be bothered.I'm somewhat familiar with Ticuan's process. I've had issues with their safes twice. Once, it was locked upon my arrival. Two doormen came up to open it. They said it was policy to have two people. The next occurrence was on another trip. A few days into my visit, the safe stopped working with my cash and valuables in it. Turns out the battery fell out because the battery door was missing. This time, only one door man opened it.

In either case, as Ctytek pointed out, Ticuan is relatively safe and I would highly doubt the "master key" is readily accessible by anyone.

[ClamSlammer]

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[Jinxx]

I use credit cards and ATM cards all over Tijuana EXCEPT for the Zona Norte. Never had a problem.My card got cloned by a restaurant Ricardo's at Plaza Rio. I've noticed that some restaurants bring the card reader machine to your table and do the transaction right in front of you which might be preferable to the waiter taking your card to do the transaction in the back. In Ricardo's the mesero took my card to the back and the next day I got the alerts from my bank suspicious charges on my card.

ATMs from any major bank should be safe. There's a HSBC ATM inside the Calimax at constitucion and second ave, which I think is the closest real bank ATM to the zona.

[Artisttyp]

I would highly doubt the "master key" is readily accessible by anyone.A master key is never highly accessible but just know that one is out there. If the right situation arises it could very well be used and you might never know it. I always lock my valuables up before placing them into a hotel safe to be sure no one touches anything while I am away.

[BangoSkank]

Possibly true, if you stay at fleabag hotels in ZN, which I never do. Ticuan Hotel rooms have solid fireproof safes, and I have never heard of anyone having an issue with those. I am sure hotel management has the master key, but I am certain cleaning staff has no way to open those.

Bringing your own travel safes and locking those in larger suitcases. That's massively overthinking and over complicating things. Great if it works for you, but I couldn't be bothered.At the Ticuan the safes need to be fire proof.

[Captain Solo]

Jinxx.

This HSBC ATM is close enough to La Zona.

Good info.

[Artisttyp]

I just purchased a few tactical / military face masks. Many come with filter pockets on the back side. They would make a great stash for money! There are a few Etsy sellers who make them. This is one of them.

How many of you have gotten your face mask searched lately? Have police asked you to remove it?

https://www.etsy.com/shop/RPThreads

[Hargow20]

Was walking back from Tijuana & had a very irritating experience with the police. I was leaving old shopping mall that is near the Pedestrian bridge. As I was about the leave the shopping center I was stopped by 2 police officers The proceed to search me and when I held my wallet they then got irritated when I attemped to hold my cash. The searched my back pack and all clothes. After this they them started viewing my photos on my phone. I had photo of a persons drivers license from a accident. They then asked me who it was and wanted to know when it was taken. It happened awhile ago so it was hard to remember. I had another phote of some people. One of them was girl that had a short dress. The cop then tried to tell me that the picture of the girl was considered pornography in Mexico. While I was being questioned the police stopped another gringo and started hassling him as well. The police then told me he will have to ask his boss if I have to pay a fine. Finally said I could go.

[Dogers69]

Was walking back from Tijuana & had a very irritating experience with the police. I was leaving old shopping mall that is near the Pedestrian bridge. As I was about the leave the shopping center I was stopped by 2 police officers The proceed to search me and when I held my wallet they then got irritated when I attemped to hold my cash. The searched my back pack and all clothes. After this they them started viewing my photos on my phone. I had photo of a persons drivers license from a accident. They then asked me who it was and wanted to know when it was taken. It happened awhile ago so it was hard to remember. I had another phote of some people. One of them was girl that had a short dress. The cop then tried to tell me that the picture of the girl was considered pornography in Mexico. While I was being questioned the police stopped another gringo and started hassling him as well. The police then told me he will have to ask his boss if I have to pay a fine. Finally said I could go.Wow that's good to know. I've never heard of policia looking at phone photos. They are really desperate. I know us border can look at your phone. Mexico changed from the covid. It wasn't that bad the last 3 years. I was shocked they didn't stop me at all the last month. I wouldn't of cared if they stole my 20 bucks in my wallet as I was waiting for it.

[Hargow20]

I have not been hassled by the police in quite a awhile. A few years back the police were stopping people randomly in the Zona. My guess is that the police found decided to stop me since that area is realitvely deserted at night. I will probably take uber or a taxif for awhile. So it is probably a good idea to avoid going by there at night. This stuff about searching your wallet is a excuse to steal your money.


Wow that's good to know. I've never heard of policia looking at phone photos. They are really desperate. I know us border can look at your phone. Mexico changed from the covid. It wasn't that bad the last 3 years. I was shocked they didn't stop me at all the last month. I wouldn't of cared if they stole my 20 bucks in my wallet as I was waiting for it.

[KingKielBasa]

A year and a half ago when I banked with Chase I had a few beers and going against my better judgement tried to used the ATM outside Adelita. Chase immediately locked my account due to suspicious activity. They did try to call me however my number on file was my company cell which I don't take over borders. I was pissed and shut down my account when I returned to the states but in hind site they were looking out for my best interest.


My card got cloned by a restaurant Ricardo's at Plaza Rio. I've noticed that some restaurants bring the card reader machine to your table and do the transaction right in front of you which might be preferable to the waiter taking your card to do the transaction in the back. In Ricardo's the mesero took my card to the back and the next day I got the alerts from my bank suspicious charges on my card.

ATMs from any major bank should be safe. There's a HSBC ATM inside the Calimax at constitucion and second ave, which I think is the closest real bank ATM to the zona.

[Captain Solo]

KingKielBasa.

I had a checking account with Chase, never used its debit card, but the account was hacked and perps withdrew about $700 in Dominican Rep.

I don't have time to deal with these problems so I just closed that account.

[Captain Solo]

Jinxx,

That reminds me. When paying with your cards in Mexico, tell them to bring out their machine and charge it in front of you. If they take the card away they have ways to clone it. I am sure the guys at Azul's cloned my AMEX card. Someone in KC bought 4 orders from Pizza Huts worth over $400, which were later reversed.

The Schwab debit card can be programmed for specific countries and date spans, then lock / unlock quickly with only 1 switch. Schwab mobile app is easy to use. I will use that feature when I go out of the US.

[Captain Solo]

2 missing US tourists found dead in well in northern Mexico.

By Associated press.

Published: September 8, 2020 at 4:48 am.

Updated: September 8, 2020 at 4:50 am.

Mexico city— Authorities have identified bodies found in a well in northern Mexico as two missing tourists from the United States, officials said Monday.

The Baja California state prosecutor's office said in a statement that the victims were identified as retirees Ian Hirschsohn and Kathy Harvey. Their disappearances were reported to authorities Sept. 2, the statement said.

Investigators searching an unpopulated area south of Ensenada spotted human remains at the bottom of the well the following day. They were recovered Friday and Saturday, the statement said.

No information regarding the cause of death or motive was provided. The case remains under investigation. Authorities did not provide their hometowns, but local media reported they both lived in southern California.

Meanwhile, at the southern end of the Baja Peninsula, the Baja California Sur state prosecutor's office said the body of 65-year-old Craig Harrison was found on the beach in Cabo Pulmo Saturday evening. An autopsy determined that he had been stabbed in the chest before ending up in the ocean.

Harrison, a citizen of South Africa and Canada who settled in Mexico, had been missing since Aug. 29. According to his real estate website, Harrison settled in Cabo San Lucas in 1997 after working as an accountant and a wine importer in Canada.

He ran a vacation rental business in Cabo.

[Captain Solo]

I rented a room from this guy Craig Harrison in Cabo a few years back. He owned a small hotel and bought / sold timeshare units.

He was a hard-ass kind of guy, pugnacious and hard to deal with. Local guys said he had been stabbed, his body weighed down with rocks and dumped in the ocean.

Expats living in Mexico there are lots of people hungry and desperate in Mexico due to the CoVid shutdown, therefore there is a steep increase in property crimes against wealthy expats.

Meanwhile, at the southern end of the Baja Peninsula, the Baja California Sur state prosecutor's office said the body of 65-year-old Craig Harrison was found on the beach in Cabo Pulmo Saturday evening. An autopsy determined that he had been stabbed in the chest before ending up in the ocean.

Harrison, a citizen of South Africa and Canada who settled in Mexico, had been missing since Aug. 29. According to his real estate website, Harrison settled in Cabo San Lucas in 1997 after working as an accountant and a wine importer in Canada.

He ran a vacation rental business in Cabo.

[Cocr Brotheler]

"Need to find secured Atms in Tijuana. ".

I'm sorry to hear of all the debit thefts down there. I'm thinking folks are trying to pull from ATMs once inside TJ since they ration the amount of purchase before entering correct? Last time I exchanged money before enterring they limited me to $50 or $100 worth. Fine I just go to multiple cambios but never I even imagine trying to use my debit card down there even pre-COVID.

And with all the risk of tryin to use the debits is it overall better to exchange USD in the USA Banks even with lesser exchange versus the high amount of thefts if trying to pull in Tijuana?

[Cocr Brotheler]

I have been using a Pacsafe for years. As an added layer of protection I never have it visible. What I do is put in in a locked suitcase then lock the suitcase AND the PacSafe to wherever. That way Someone would need to rip apart the suitcase first before they were confronted with the PacSAfe. Not highly unlikely that it could be done but it presents more of a challenge to thieves and less time efficient from a grab and dash perspective.

There are also many other creative stash options available on Ebay or Etsy. It just takes time and putting some thought into it.

Another option is to use the Pacsafe IN A SAFE. Most safes have a master key which management has.....just a thought to ponder.I like to loop my Pacsafe up under the sink around the plumbing. Imagine a determined hotel staff trying to cut or weld thru the plumbing to get to the Pacsafe jajajaja. Take them awhile and look like complete idiots. One time in Pereira, Colombia I thought I hid about $100 in COP inside a book in my upscale hotel but they found it! If it ain't locked down poof gone, "No dar la papaya".

[Hargow20]

Has anyone been seeing more shakedownls lately. ? Just wondering fi there has been a rise or if was just the victim of the random stop. ?

[ScatManDoo]

"Need to find secured Atms in Tijuana. ".

I'm sorry to hear of all the debit thefts down there. I'm thinking folks are trying to pull from ATMs once inside TJ since they ration the amount of purchase before entering correct?The better cambio rates of exchange (when acquiring pesos) seem usually to be at cambios on the United States side of the border. When needing hundreds of dollars worth of pesos (instead of thousands of dollars worth) the limiting of transaction size is usually also not a problem.

The reason I get pesos from Tijuana located ATMs is because I seem to get much better rates when using a Schwab debit card compared to any cambio on either side. Often more than 5% better exchange rates when ATM fees are removed, which Schwab does for Schwab One account holders.

I've used the HSBC freestanding ATM inside of Soriana grocery's pharmacy section for over a decade. Never a problem and I feel comfortable in the store's area where the ATM is located.

[Artisttyp]

I like to loop my Pacsafe up under the sink around the plumbing. Imagine a determined hotel staff trying to cut or weld thru the plumbing to get to the Pacsafe jajajaja. Take them awhile and look like complete idiots. One time in Pereira, Colombia I thought I hid about $100 in COP inside a book in my upscale hotel but they found it! If it ain't locked down poof gone, "No dar la papaya".Just Curious. Do you simply wrap it around the pipe? If you do that then someone can just cut the bag with bolt clippers regardless what it is attached to. The good thing about having it in a suitcase is no one knows what it is. Many people have locked suitcases but not many people have locked money bags visible under the sink.

Maybe I misread how you hide it. Please explain. I'd like to have more options. The Pac Safe is somewhat limited.

Another tool I use is a Relator's key box that hangs on a doorknob. Although they are heavy for air travel.

[Dogers69]

Has anyone been seeing more shakedownls lately. ? Just wondering fi there has been a rise or if was just the victim of the random stop. ?I read a lot Tijuana news the police are in a steal everything from the gringo mode right now. There's TV news stories where the police took hundreds from gringos in cars, retired older people not mongers, and they told the people they have to strealndue to Mexico's economy with the covid. In other words they skipped the pretend ticket part, and just said pay me. Also on this forum alone a lot more stories. I'd say more police issues in last 3 months then the prior 4 years combined. With that said, I was bothered more 4 years ago. Last 3 years jnly bothered once. Never had money taken. I walked around zona alone and revolucion maybe 10 days in July August nobody bothered me.

[Captain Solo]

I can use Schwab mobile app to lock and unlock cards. Just unlock the card before use then relock it. Secured enough.

Jinxx pointed out an ATM inside the Calimax on Constitucion and calle2. Close enough.

[Hargow20]

I have not seen the police shaking down people in the Zona lately. This because there is other people around. My guess is that the police tried to harass me because I was in a bit isolated. I will be taking Uber or taxi back to the border until things settle down.


I read a lot Tijuana news the police are in a steal everything from the gringo mode right now. There's TV news stories where the police took hundreds from gringos in cars, retired older people not mongers, and they told the people they have to strealndue to Mexico's economy with the covid. In other words they skipped the pretend ticket part, and just said pay me. Also on this forum alone a lot more stories. I'd say more police issues in last 3 months then the prior 4 years combined. With that said, I was bothered more 4 years ago. Last 3 years jnly bothered once. Never had money taken. I walked around zona alone and revolucion maybe 10 days in July August nobody bothered me.

[Dickus Maximus]

I rented a room from this guy Craig Harrison in Cabo a few years back. He owned a small hotel and bought / sold timeshare units.

He was a hard-ass kind of guy, pugnacious and hard to deal with. Local guys said he had been stabbed, his body weighed down with rocks and dumped in the ocean.

Probably screwed someone over and they took the law into their own hands. It's wise to maintain good relations in Mexico as the police are unlikely to be much help.

[Travv]

I secure my Pacsafe to the toilet base. Wrap the steel cord around it then padlock it. Don't think the thief is going to want to carry a toilet base with a Pacsafe locked to it out of the hotel. But this works only for the Travelsafe variety. It has a long steel cord that some of the other Pacsafe types do not have. If you are really paranoid, you can spring $300 for a wireless tear gas alarm at Ubackoff dot com. Remote control switch to activate -- sounds a siren then releases a tear gas cloud to fill the room. . . Thieves will leave your room and stuff ASAP. . .


Just Curious. Do you simply wrap it around the pipe? If you do that then someone can just cut the bag with bolt clippers regardless what it is attached to. The good thing about having it in a suitcase is no one knows what it is. Many people have locked suitcases but not many people have locked money bags visible under the sink.

Maybe I misread how you hide it. Please explain. I'd like to have more options. The Pac Safe is somewhat limited.

Another tool I use is a Relator's key box that hangs on a doorknob. Although they are heavy for air travel.

[Captain Solo]

Dickus,

Local guys said he had multiple stab wounds, his body wrapped up in tarp and weighed down with big rocks then taken out and dumped in the ocean in a panga. It did not look like not a crime of opportunity but more like a deliberate murder, deals went bad somewhere. As usual Mexican police is too busy stealing and squeezing every one for bribes to bother.

Cabo is right across from Mazatlan and Sinaloa, connected by a ferry across the sea of Cortez, a hot bed for drug cartels' reign. Guys living in Cabo said in the last 10 years, drug cartels moved in and took controls of bars, strip clubs, escort agencies, extracting high taxes with threats of kidnap and violence. Guys who operated escort agencies just closed up and left. Tourism and resorts operators are probably paying a stiff tax to stay alive and do business. Drug cartels are increasingly controlling and destroying many more social and economic activities in Mexico.

Probably screwed someone over and they took the law into their own hands. It's wise to maintain good relations

[Artisttyp]

a wireless tear gas alarm at Ubackoff dot com. Remote control switch to activate -- sounds a siren then releases a tear gas cloud to fill the room. . . Thieves will leave your room and stuff ASAP. . .Good Point. I have seen other travel alarms for sale which I am sure can be connected somehow to the Pac Safe. I used to frequent www.corporatetravelsafety.com for my James Bond travel needs.

[Ho Lover1]

I read a lot Tijuana news the police are in a steal everything from the gringo mode right now. There's TV news stories where the police took hundreds from gringos in cars, retired older people not mongers, and they told the people they have to strealndue to Mexico's economy with the covid. In other words they skipped the pretend ticket part, and just said pay me. Also on this forum alone a lot more stories. I'd say more police issues in last 3 months then the prior 4 years combined. With that said, I was bothered more 4 years ago. Last 3 years jnly bothered once. Never had money taken. I walked around zona alone and revolucion maybe 10 days in July August nobody bothered me.I was given a note at the border a few years ago to contact the State Dept at 078, don't know if this is still a good number, if you experience any problems in Tijuana. It mentioned marking your bills with a UV pen and get the name of the police officer, vehicle number, time and location of any incident. Get the name of the border agent involved. I have had my share of police thefts in Tijuana over the years.

[KC Questor]

I was given a note at the border a few years ago to contact the State Dept at 078, don't know if this is still a good number, if you experience any problems in Tijuana. There are signs up in many touristy areas (not the Zona Norte, though) with instructions on who to call if foreigners have issues in Tijuana. I don't have the number handy though.

[TomJackin]

I was given a note at the border a few years ago to contact the State Dept at 078, don't know if this is still a good number, if you experience any problems in Tijuana. It mentioned marking your bills with a UV pen and get the name of the police officer, vehicle number, time and location of any incident. Get the name of the border agent involved. I have had my share of police thefts in Tijuana over the years.078 is / was a tourist assistance number in Tijuana. Not sure if it is still active.

[Dcrist0527]

078 is / was a tourist assistance number in Tijuana. Not sure if it is still active.One other number I can pass along. I have not verified that this is still active. But if your carrier does not connect you using 078, try 664 438 9334. That is a local tourist help number. Again, not sure it is still active.

[Captain Solo]

Dcrist.

Tijuana hangs a huge banner over the return car lanes with a 800 phone number for any complaint or comment. I called and it was never answered.

I called Tijuana's Internal Affairs and District Attorney offices. They told me I had go to city hall and sign written complaints.

Thanks for posting this Tijuana number. When confronted or accused by policia, insist you don't understand them and want them to call in their sergeants or Policia Tourista, or call this Tijuana number. That usually ends their bullshit.

[Hargow20]

The 078 number did not work for me. So called Tmobiile and they told me that the 078 number is considered to a 800 number so you cannot dial it from their network.


078 is / was a tourist assistance number in Tijuana. Not sure if it is still active.

[Hargow20]

It is unfortunate, but the Mexican govt seem only interested in stopping the drug gangs. Mexico lits the street drug dealers sell freely. They openly keep asking people if they want to buy drugs in the Zona. The drug users are not the traditional peeple we think of as using dope. They are from all age groups in Tijuana. The drug addiction rate in Mexico city in 2008 was roughly between 15.2%-17%. The worst thing is that the police are only making the occasional stop so that they can extract a bribe.

[Captain Solo]

The HSBC ATM inside Calimax allows cash withdrawals up to 7,000 pesos, but their rate was lower than market.

A week ago I tried to draw cash. The machine said rate was 18.99: 1. I know cambios' street rate was about 20:1 so I just walked down the street to the cambios. HSBC would take 1 pesos for every 20. That's 5% margin. If you withdraw 7,000 pesos you would lose 350 pesos. Damn greedy HSBC.

HSBC is a very shady Hong Kong bank, well-known for laundering money for criminals worldwide, also to hide money for top Chinese Communists to steal from people and rape young girls. They were hit with $2. 5 billion fine by US Treasury a few years back. HSBC has a large and fancy branch on Revo corner Calle 2, must be to launder Cartels' money. I hope the cartels figure out HSBC has been short changing them and send a few guys to visit with their AK 47's.

[Dcrist0527]

The HSBC ATM inside Calimax allows cash withdrawals up to 7,000 pesos, but their rate was lower than market.

A week ago I tried to draw cash. The machine said rate was 18.99: 1. I know cambios' street rate was about 20:1 so I just walked down the street to the cambios. HSBC would take 1 pesos for every 20. That's 5% margin. If you withdraw 7,000 pesos you would lose 350 pesos. Damn greedy HSBC.

HSBC is a very shady Hong Kong bank, well-known for laundering money for criminals worldwide, also to hide money for top Chinese Communists to steal from people and rape young girls. They were hit with $2. 5 billion fine by US Treasury a few years back. HSBC has a large and fancy branch on Revo corner Calle 2, must be to launder Cartels' money. I hope the cartels figure out HSBC has been short changing them and send a few guys to visit with their AK 47's.Some of the ATMs along the west side of Constitucion provide a very good exchange rate. I'm talking about the Centro area, not la Zona.

[Hargow20]

Apparently some law enforcement member are involved in kidnapping in Baja / Tijuana. I am not to surprised this is happening. With the shakedowns and the way the police ignore the drug dealers on the street.

(https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/story/2020-10-04/mexicans-disappear-family).

[Captain Solo]

Sat 2PM I was driving to La Zona with 2 other bros when the light turned green on Negrete.

A bearded, filthy, crazed hobo was crossing the street at that busy intersection, blocking our way. Lots of cars were waiting in traffic. I got pissed off and blew the horn at him. He turned around, swung his long stick at the car. Making a loud thump. I stopped to take a good look at him; he was chasing after us, damn stupid crazy hobo needed a good lesson for attacking us. I told the bros I would file a police report.

Found a policia patrol car in front of hotel Hacienda de Santiago on Coahuila. I explained to him what happened. He apologized profusely for not speaking enough English but understood what happened and corrected me on the location of the crime. My wingman speaks perfect Spanish, further described the guy and his transgression.

The hit wiped the paint in a small spot on the quarter panel but did not make a dent. The same hit could cause serious injuries to a person. The cop was polite and professional. He said he would send an unit to the location to check out this guy. The hobo may be crazy enough to swing his stick at policia and get a few bullets in his torso. It was a good opportunity for cooperation with TJPD to reduce violent crimes hehe.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Whoa that ***** was crazy. Hope the popos mess him up good Solo.

Had negative experiences in D-T San Diego the last trip. Was broad daylight 12 PM on a weekday and this homeless out of nowhere sticks his big phuckin hand right in front my face. Not only was I startled but just a bit too close. I yelled at him from a distance and he back to me like F you this and F you that. I was afraid he would attack me or something right there in nice area D-T SDO. But my relation with SDO goes back to mid 80's when in the Navy and seeing lots of crazy shit back then too.

This next trip to Tijuana in 2 weeks! I am staying in I.B. to be close to the border and out of downtown. I've stayed D-T too much, P-B, the 32nd street naval station with rooms now same $ as off base.

I pulled the trigger tonight on airfare, Southwest seats for my date and $ going fast. Was considering Juarez but airfare slightly more for half the distance from Dallas.

[Captain Solo]

Cocr,

Filthy beggars in downtown LA would get in your face, shouting obscenities, following you for hours demanding donations. It's a drag.

Are you an ex Navy man? The Navy lets you stay in housing on base? Your ass would be guarded and protected 24/7 by MPs. Damn good deal hehe.

Why don't you want to stay in La Zona where you can drink like a sailor, ogle hot girls, squeeze their boobs, grope their sexy crotches and smell their fragrant pussies 24/7?

Whoa that * was crazy. Hope the popos mess him up good Solo.

Had negative experiences in the-T San Diego the last trip. Was broad daylight 12 PM on a weekday and this homeless out of nowhere sticks his big phuckin hand right in front my face. Not only was I startled but just a bit too close. I yelled at him from a distance and he back to me like F you this and F you that. I was afraid he would attack me or something right there in nice area the-T SDO. But my relation with SDO goes back to mid 80's when in the Navy and seeing lots of crazy shit back then too.

This next trip to Tijuana in 2 weeks! I am staying in I. B. To be close to the border and out of downtown. I've stayed d-T too much, P-b, the 32nd street naval station with rooms now same $ as off base.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Cocr,

Filthy beggars in downtown LA would get in your face, shouting obscenities, following you for hours demanding donations. It's a drag.

Are you an ex Navy man? The Navy lets you stay in housing on base? Your ass would be guarded and protected 24/7 by MPs. Damn good deal hehe.

Why don't you want to stay in La Zona where you can drink like a sailor, ogle hot girls, squeeze their boobs, grope their sexy crotches and smell their fragrant pussies 24/7?

Yes sir! Had a tour on Midway Magic before it was a museum and with the Seabees up in Port Hueneme.

I usually get a day room in Cascadas, Adelita's hotel or maybe try Ibiza this time. I don't like to stay down there overnight as I don't party 24/7 and want to stay incognito. Go in, enjoy and get back across the border each night. Navy base at 32nd street was a good deal for me and I could walk right to trolley line usually no issues with homeless around the base. But they raised their prices to about same as hotels on the outside and rooms like 50's vintage. Not bad just felt like I was overpaying.

This going to be a great trip I know in just over 2 weeks and getting in "under the wire" if we have any more shutdowns USA Or MEX. Cases rising but would take health experts a month to assess then shut down again.

[Captain Solo]

The aircraft carrier Midway with her illustrious war history in WWII and Vietnam is docked in San Diego harbor, a piece of valiant memory recommended for all bros who visit the area.

I took a tour of the Midway. The flight deck is tiny. I hate to have to slam a screaming jet down onto that deck at night. There are old war jets parked on that deck for display. The attack planes F4, A5, A6, A7 are huge. The A4 that Sen John McCain got shot down in is tiny and looks funny on its tall legs. They still hang a single engine prop plane L-19 with Vietnam AF markings on the ceiling of the hangar. Reportedly a VNAF lieutenant landed the single-seat plane on the flight deck with his wife and 6 kids in its belly in 1975 when South VN fell apart.

My neighbor was a F / A 18 pilot. He went on deployment 6-8 months at sea each time, then a few months off at SD home base. His 2 young daughters were sweet but felt sad and lost without a father. When the US goes to war again, I want to fly planes, not for US Navy, but for the US Airforce, stationed in Tijuana Municipal Airport hehe.

[Cocr Brotheler]

+ that Solo and thank you so much for your recognition of Naval Aviation! The Air "Farce" a very nobel endeavor however they can not land on small rolling pitching sea decks LOL.

I wanted to fly fighter jets or even a big cargo plane but my eyes were too bad so they made me a Disbursing Officer (Disbo) in charge of the payroll. I was the last Disbo of that ship taking it from Yokosuka Japan back to San Diego for de-commissioning. It was an 8 day transit across the Pacific and every chance I had I went up to the flight deck to watch those F / A-18's takeoff and land for their final times from Midway. My predecessor during Gulf War One had to fly in a COD (C-2) into Bahrain to pickup huge $$ for the ship and landed on that flight deck. Amazing!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_onboard_delivery

Yet it wasn't that tour that introduced me to TJ. When I was with the Bees during training in SDO a crabby CWO2 took me to Manhattans. Before then my visits to TJ I only encountered the old overweight hos at the bars on the way in. He introduced me to hot flaka young chicas! It changed me forever for much much the better.

Manhattan very close to HK the next block east about half way down. Shows as a hotel still open. Haven't been there at night but walked by a few times since 2014.

[Jinxx]

Looks like a chica set him up to get kidnapped. The guy was a firefighter from LA and had a second home in Rosarito.

"The victim agreed to meet with a woman we know today is called Fanny 'N'. She identified herself to Aguilar as Monserrat," said Hiram Sanchez, Attorney General of Baja California. "he somehow managed to get rid of his captors, tried to run, and as he ran they shoot and injure him and put him in the van. ".

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/tijuana-authorities-arrest-suspects-in-los-angeles-firefighter-abduction/2421865/

[Dogers69]

Looks like a chica set him up to get kidnapped. The guy was a firefighter from LA and had a second home in Rosarito.

"The victim agreed to meet with a woman we know today is called Fanny 'N'. She identified herself to Aguilar as Monserrat," said Hiram Sanchez, Attorney General of Baja California. "he somehow managed to get rid of his captors, tried to run, and as he ran they shoot and injure him and put him in the van. ".

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/tijuana-authorities-arrest-suspects-in-los-angeles-firefighter-abduction/2421865/This kind of stuff is almost impossible to avoid if you are into woman. Between dating aps, escort sites, woman who can very easily get any guy to her address by going to a bar and flirting, truth is its almost impossible to avoid. Unless you stick to working girls in the bars, and street girls you take to HK and Adelitas hotel.

[Captain Solo]

They did not have to murder this guy to steal his car. Something bigger seemed to be involved. Someone said the girl worked in HK?

Wonder what other motives are behind this murder? Jealousy? Drug deals gone bad? Debts unpaid? Ransom?

There are lots of poor, hungry, desperate and angry people in Mexico, well, at least more so than the US. Don't let them lead you into a corner then cut your hairy balls off.

[ClamSlammer]

A really good friend of mine was kidnapped about 10 months ago. His wife doesn't seem to care. Still hasn't made a statement to the cops. Also, the novio of a very good amiga disappeared about 5 months ago. He lives in Rosarito and drove to Tijuana supposedly to buy a car stereo. Hasn't been seen since. 5 days later the cops located his lightly vandalized car in playas, which was released to his mother later the same day. That's a prime example of the relentless pursuit of justice by the Tijuana P. D.

[Cocr Brotheler]

This kind of stuff is almost impossible to avoid if you are into woman. Between dating aps, escort sites, woman who can very easily get any guy to her address by going to a bar and flirting, truth is its almost impossible to avoid. Unless you stick to working girls in the bars, and street girls you take to HK and Adelitas hotel.This the reason I switched only to mongering in C.R. and other locations south of the border some years ago when going on short trips. Sent out several internet dating requests from the USA before one visit down to C.R. and couldn't believe that the hottest of the 3 I sent to wants to met ME for dinner. She was definitely a 9 but shortly after dinner started she made a call after walking away from the table then after a 2nd time she asked me if I wanted to go back to her "finca". A super gullible gringo may have fallen for it but my knowing bad things can happen countered her with "Why can't we just relax in my hotel room nearby? All this in Spanish. She made a 3rd a final phone call to the robbers and shortly after we ended dinner and parted our ways.

I thought to myself during this what reputable woman 1. Meets a gringo on such short notice? And 2. Would invite him back to her finca? Fincas (large coffee farms) only owned by the rich hierarchy down there. Yup I may not be here 15 years more now on this planet if hadn't put it together.

I feel safe taking up a room in reputable *****houses when I go.

[Cocr Brotheler]

https://www.countynewscenter.com/san-diego-county-covid-19-update-10-26-2020/

As of today positivity rate "only" 3. 3% in SDO County. Proly go upwards but for the next 6 days safe enough for my trip.

In Texas which is almost full open except bars, nightclubs etc. and without curfew we are in 8%-10% range and going up, not good. This also with masks like in CA.

So I am very fortunate to quote be "threading the needle" before possible more clamp downs on both ends and 3rd end in Tijuana as well. 1st day on Thursday I will check out out HK and if not too crowded hang in there for awhile. I especially like sitting at shave cream station and fingering and groping the gals. Last trip Nov. 2018 I enjoyed very much watching a bro. I intentionally sat right next so I could watch him eat out a shave cream girl over and over in front of whomever could see it. I live for that kinda stuff.

[Hargow20]

I have noticed lately the male CBP are much less likely why were in Mexico. So you are better off standing in line where there more more male CBP officers.

[LuvMexicanas]

I have noticed lately the male CBP are much less likely why were in Mexico. So you are better off standing in line where there more more male CBP officers.That sounds logical to me because women are naturals at interrogation, as they've honed that skill on men for thousands of years.

[Phordphan]

That sounds logical to me because women are naturals at interrogation, as they've honed that skill on men for thousands of years.What difference does it make? CBP is not the morality police and there is nothing they can do about anybody visiting HK. Who gives a shit what a female agent thinks?

[LuvMexicanas]

What difference does it make? CBP is not the morality police and there is nothing they can do about anybody visiting HK. Who gives a shit what a female agent thinks?None to you and me, or people like us, but the number of times some variation of the question of what to say when crossing back into the states gets asked seems to indicate some on this board suffer from anxiety or seek the path of least resistance.

[DramaFree11]

What difference does it make? CBP is not the morality police and there is nothing they can do about anybody visiting HK. Who gives a shit what a female agent thinks?Correct, but they can send you to the secondary inspection and that totally sucks.

[Hargow20]

CBP cannot do much. But they might decide to detain you and question you to make your life difficult. It's a bit hard to say. But it is best to avoid unnecessary problems.


What difference does it make? CBP is not the morality police and there is nothing they can do about anybody visiting HK. Who gives a shit what a female agent thinks?

[Phordphan]

CBP cannot do much. But they might decide to detain you and question you to make your life difficult. It's a bit hard to say. But it is best to avoid unnecessary problems.Detain you for what? Unless you're carrying contraband, like drugs, or k*ddie pr0 n on your phone, they can do nothing. They can send you to secondary, they can have you empty your pockets. They could look at your phone, although that would be quite rare. They can annoy you and cause you to waste a few minutes, but that's about it. They really do have bigger fish to fry. Go easy on the paranoia, unless you truly are up to something nefarious. And if you can, apply for SENTRI and avoid most of the nonsense altogether.

[ClamSlammer]

Despite what a clueless poster may assert, these are the facts:

1. CBP can detain you for no reason. Your 4th Amendment rights do not apply at ports of entry. And if they send you to secondary, it could last hours, not just a few minutes. And they cannot search your phone any longer. A federal judge ruled it illegal about a year ago. And applying for Sentri does not automatically exclude you from being detained. Sentri holders do not have any different rights than a person crossing through the regular line.

[Hargow20]

Yes that's true So it is best try and avoid having to deal with being hassled.


Detain you for what? Unless you're carrying contraband, like drugs, or k*ddie pr0 n on your phone, they can do nothing. They can send you to secondary, they can have you empty your pockets. They could look at your phone, although that would be quite rare. They can annoy you and cause you to waste a few minutes, but that's about it. They really do have bigger fish to fry. Go easy on the paranoia, unless you truly are up to something nefarious. And if you can, apply for SENTRI and avoid most of the nonsense altogether.

[JohnLucid]

Who gives a shit what a female agent thinks?Every time I've had a female agent, she asks what I'm up to. I always say clubbing. But the funniest part is when they ask to search my bag. All I've got in there is a dildo, furry tail butt plug, big bottle of lube, and a big box of condoms. Their searches always abruptly end. Next time, I'm finding raunchier things to bring across. And, in fairness, what TF do they think a single guy crossing the border with just a backpack is up to?

[Phordphan]

Yes that's true So it is best try and avoid having to deal with being hassled.I don't think you understand the point. The agents are looking for tells. Shifty looks, nervousness, sweating, evasive behavior. THAT is what gets you sent to secondary. They are not interested in whether or not you've been clubbing. They do not have time to send every pervert to secondary. It's a waste of everybody's time. Generally speaking, you have to do something particularly stupid to be sent to secondary when crossing on foot.

[Dogers69]

Yes definitely the female agents do the inquiry, my whole life story how I'm even in California to begin with, how I got the money to get to California and Mexico, who I know in Mexico, if it annoyed me enough ID tell them to get the boss as they are asking me questions I don't have to legally answer. Its the same thing on amtrak 4 times a year when the DEA shows up to my seat I tell him stop asking me questions I have a lawyer and he walks away.

[SpeedToys]

As usual, this makes no sense. I really doubt you have a lawyer, Judging from your previous reports.It's also how he keeps those aggressive meseros away too.

[Captain Solo]

Saturday night 6 PM I was driving back to the SENTRI lane. After passing hotel Pueblo Amigos, I entered the intersection and cut into the line of cars on Padre Kino waiting to enter the SENTRI lanes, just when the Trasnito guy pulled the yellow tape and closed the lanes to traffic. This intersection is usually open, access is controlled only when traffic is heavy like commuting hours on weekdays.

I was in the middle of the intersection with cars all around me. He gestured for me to back up but I was stuck, could not back up, so I asked the guy to lift the tape for me to enter SENTRI lanes. He looked pissed, got on his phone and called in Transito.

2 guys wearing yellow Transito vests walked out from somewhere in the dark. They gestured for me to follow them and drive off to the side street. One guy asked to see my driver license. He was berating me in Spanish which I understood jack, but my wingman interpreted for me. I told Transito guy to go ahead and give me a ticket. He kept talking, threatened to slam me with tickets for traffic violation and attempt to bribe public officials, total 8,000 pesos or $400 LOL. There are no traffic tickets in Mexico worth $400 hehe. Besides, he did not even have a ticket book. He was only trying to scare me.

After berating me a few minutes which I understood jack, he asked me to apologize to him then his partner, returned my driver license and let me go. We drove off the side street and reentered Padre Kino car line 5 minutes later, the 3 Transito guys had all gone!

These Transito guys seem to have short fuses. Don't try their patience hehe.

[Jackie888]

What is the best route to get back to the Sentri lane from the Zona Norte and avoid enterprising LEO on a weekend?

[Captain Solo]

Policia patrol cars hide on dark streets all around La Zona. They like to pull cars over on dark, deserted stretches of streets. It's better to drive out on busy, well-lighted streets to reduce the chance of pull over as policia would have many targets to go after. It's random where policia would show up.

I usually drive East on Coahuila, South on Madero, East On Benito Juarez. This is where policia occasionally set up alcohol and fugitives checkpoint.

Benito Juarez splits 3 ways, take the middle Medical lane parallel with the regular Northbound lanes on your left, pass the Medical booth, make a tight you turn at the rotary at old McDonalds' plaza and follow the right lane to Pueblo Amigos. At the bus enclosure Before Caliente, turn left and head to the intersection with Padre Kino. If Transito hangs yellow tape to control entry into SENTRI lanes, turn right head South on Padre Kino and join the line before the big rotary.

This is the old taxi route and the shortest way to get to SENTRI.

[Thunder52]

I don't think you understand the point. The agents are looking for tells. Shifty looks, nervousness, sweating, evasive behavior. THAT is what gets you sent to secondary. They are not interested in whether or not you've been clubbing. They do not have time to send every pervert to secondary. It's a waste of everybody's time. Generally speaking, you have to do something particularly stupid to be sent to secondary when crossing on foot.Dogs smell drugs. Dogs smell money.

[Captain Solo]

CHP nailed me for speeding on fwy at high speed. Never saw the guy until he started tailing me. I gently slowed down to legal speed but he pulled me over. He was hiding at an on ramp and clocked me with his laser about 3 miles down the road.

The court took 5 months to send me the courtesy notice, bail about $480. Court clerks were probably too busy having orgies in court rooms with CoVid excuses. I talked to my attorney who said he would just pay the fine and not waste time. He's a good attorney, conscientious and does good detailed work, but he's too honest.

I did not want another point on my near perfect driving record, so sent in bail money and wrote a long letter to the court, asking for a court trial. 2 weeks later the court sent back a notice of dismissal, promised to refund the bail. YIPPEE! The judge probably figured my court trial would interrupt his sessions with the obese and ugly clerks hehe.

Any pervs got tickets for driving too fast or too slow, buy me a few beers then I will give them my expert consultation.

[Jackie888]

I don't know about anyone else. But potholes are a huge risk in Tijuana for drivers. I had 2 major flats in the last 4 weeks. These were nearly brand new. I found the first flat after I got my car from the garage so it may have not been a pothole. But on my 2nd flat, I hit a pothole at only about 20 mph and it blew out my new tire. The pothole was so deep that I thought I felt the bottom of my car hit pavement.

[Travv]

The best way to avoid Policia patrol cars hiding on dark streets around the Zona looking for drunks to shake down is simple. Rule No. 1: Rent a hotel room for the night before you start drinking and do not go near your car till morning. Go to your hotel room instead. In the morning, you will be sober and the policia cars will have no dark streets to hide on making your trip back to the border from your hotel much safer and saving you from losing your money and car when the Policia bust you for DUI at a checkpoint for driving around Tijuana at night after partying at the clubs. So easy, even a caveman can avoid the Policia looking for mordida and the likely drunk driving accident arrest and trip to the Tijuana jail if he is willing to spend a few bucks on a cheap hotel room before he starts drinking.


Policia patrol cars hide on dark streets all around La Zona. They like to pull cars over on dark, deserted stretches of streets. It's better to drive out on busy, well-lighted streets to reduce the chance of pull over as policia would have many targets to go after. It's random where policia would show up.

I usually drive East on Coahuila, South on Madero, East On Benito Juarez. This is where policia occasionally set up alcohol and fugitives checkpoint.

Benito Juarez splits 3 ways, take the middle Medical lane parallel with the regular Northbound lanes on your left, pass the Medical booth, make a tight you turn at the rotary at old McDonalds' plaza and follow the right lane to Pueblo Amigos. At the bus enclosure Before Caliente, turn left and head to the intersection with Padre Kino. If Transito hangs yellow tape to control entry into SENTRI lanes, turn right head South on Padre Kino and join the line before the big rotary.

This is the old taxi route and the shortest way to get to SENTRI.

[Phordphan]

What is the best route to get back to the Sentri lane from the Zona Norte and avoid enterprising LEO on a weekend?I never drive in the ZN at night. Period. Talk about a target-rich environment for a cop looking for potential DUIs. I always park elsewhere, like Ticuan, and Uber in and out.

If you can get up to Calle 8, take it until it dead ends. Turn right, follow the curve to the left. Go past the La Tijeras roundabout, cross the Via Rapida, it will dead end into Padre Kino. Left at the roundabout, and it's a straight shot to the SENTRI line. Be careful at night because of the concrete lane dividers.

This isn't perhaps the shortest way, but it's simple and easy to remember.

[Captain Solo]

Governor Newsome has issued curfew between 10 PM to 5 AM, starting Sat Nov 21 to Dec 21, restricting unessential travels and meetings with people outside the immediate family.

During the last purple period we were able to drive on freeways. Don't know how it will be enforced with this curfew.

[Captain Solo]

Travv,

I don't like to stay overnight in Tijuana. I feel lonely sleeping by myself unless I have a beautiful girl whom I can embrace all night. It's very depressing to wake up in the morning to face a bare, filthy, grimy La Zona without fun, sexy, attractive girls and glammy party life. Besides, after breakfast and crossing the border back, I could never get home before noon, so I would lose half a day or the whole day. I prefer to drive home late, sleep all night and wake up in the morning having a full day available in front of me hehe.

I usually drink 5 to 6 beers a night in the club, got stopped a few times by policia, including an alcohol test with a breath analyzer, never got nailed with DUI. Have not been pulled over late at night or seen the alcohol check point recently. Besides policia still roam around La Zona, checking cars in the day time. Lots of rationalizing, but basically I don't like to waste any time in Tijuana besides partying, flirting and screwing girls hehe.

Friday night, early Saturday morning the wingman wanted to hang out with his ugly bar girl so I drove back late, about 2 AM. He drank too much, could not stand or walk steadily, for sure could not drive back safely, so I had to drive back. Did not see any policia in Tijuana after 2 AM. The border was empty, traffic on freeway 5 was very light, only a few cars. The area surrounding the rest area near Camp Pendleton was having heavy ground fog, visibility was less than 100 feet in places. I had to slow down to 15 MPH, but a few guys were zipping by at 65 or faster. I could only see the road by slowly following white lines on the road and was stressed out, was glad after we got out of the fog and was speeding up to make up for lost time. Nearing San Clemente, suddenly a CHP car lit up his blue / red beacon and pulled me over into an off ramp. I popped a mint in my mouth before talking to him hehe. He claimed I was doing 86 MPH, passing cars, could not stay in lanes steadily, using HOV lane ect and he was tailing me for over a mile. I was checking rear view mirror frequently but had no idea he was following, must be at a far distance. I told him I was only following traffic. He disagreed, gave me a quick eye following his finger test which I seemed to pass. After a few minutes he took down my license number, gave me a verbal warning and let me go without writing a ticket, a pretty cool guy, may not be so cool if he pull me over next time hehe.

Lucky me. If he had pulled up my DMV records he may not have been so nice. A female judge in OC was considering my plea for leniency. She reviewed my DMV record and cracked a wide smile like she just got the right guy hehe. She read out my driving records, berated me in front of the full court room; people were laughing hysterically. She did give me a bail reduction however. Lucky me this time, so my driving record will remain near perfect. But I have to rethink and plan my return drives better.

The damned wingman kept wanting to sit with his ugly bar girl, so I may have drank too much, stayed too late and was a bit sleepy. Have to rethinking the strategy of leaving Tijuana. You seem to have a lot of time to spend in La Zona, good for you. You were even in a chokehold by a couple cholos in the day time with people around. I appreciate your concerns for the bros' safety.

[DramaFree11]

Travv,

I don't like to stay overnight in Tijuana. I feel lonely sleeping by myself unless I have a beautiful girl whom I can embrace all night. It's very depressing to wake up in the morning to face a bare, filthy, grimy La Zona without fun, sexy, attractive girls and glammy party life. Besides, after breakfast and crossing the border back, I could never get home before noon, so I would lose half a day or the whole day. I prefer to drive home late, sleep all night and wake up in the morning having a full day available in front of me hehe.

I usually drink 5 to 6 beers a night in the club, got stopped a few times by policia, including an alcohol test with a breath analyzer, never got nailed with DUI. Have not been pulled over late at night or seen the alcohol check point recently. Besides policia still roam around La Zona, checking cars in the day time. Lots of rationalizing, but basically I don't like to waste any time in Tijuana besides partying, flirting and screwing girls hehe.

Friday night, early Saturday morning the wingman wanted to hang out with his ugly bar girl so I drove back late, about 2 AM. He drank too much, could not stand or walk steadily, for sure could not drive back safely, so I had to drive back. Did not see any policia in Tijuana after 2 AM. The border was empty, traffic on freeway 5 was very light, only a few cars. The area surrounding the rest area near Camp Pendleton was having heavy ground fog, visibility was less than 100 feet in places. I had to slow down to 15 MPH, but a few guys were zipping by at 65 or faster. I could only see the road by slowly following white lines on the road and was stressed out, was glad after we got out of the fog and was speeding up to make up for lost time. Nearing San Clemente, suddenly a CHP car lit up his blue / red beacon and pulled me over into an off ramp. I popped a mint in my mouth before talking to him hehe..I usually agree with you, but on this one no. You are real playing with fire, both in Tijuana and drinking / driving. Neither is worth the risk. I will never understand why any of you even bother to drive to HK.

All of us on this site are big risk takers, but the risks need to be calculated. Just not worth it, my friend. Live to fight another day or another trip to HK, even better.

I have noticed the police in California seem to be more lenient. Texas you are going to jail.

[Hargow20]

Personally I never drive in Tijuana. People simply drive to crazy in Tijuana for my tastes. The other problem is spending extra money for insurance. It is much for simple to walk down or take the taxi vans. These days I usually take a Uber or take a taxi at night back to the border.

[Hargow20]

If anyone sees any new changes in Mexican immigration policy please post. ? It is quite possible they could start demanding prescriptions once again.

[Travv]

Don't worry, if the Tijuana policia catch you driving after dark with "5 to 6 beers a night in the club" and are desperate for money or hates tourists, the chances of you sleeping alone are zero in the Tijuana jail, which I've heard is packed full. You will have plenty of company crammed into your stinking cell where you can fight for a space to sleep on the floor covered with piss or whatever. . . You will make lots of new friends there. . . Rateros, cartel dudes, other drunk dudes and crazy tourists who didn't want to spend $20 for a hotel room and chose to roll the dice by driving after dark from the clubs, which are surrounded nightly by greedy Policia looking for victims. . . Read "Pozo Del Mundo" by Ovid Demaris for a description of Mexican jails a few years ago. . . The rattiest Zona Norte hotel is a chalet in paradise by comparison to a Mexican jail.


Travv,

I don't like to stay overnight in Tijuana. I feel lonely sleeping by myself unless I have a beautiful girl whom I can embrace all night. It's very depressing to wake up in the morning to face a bare, filthy, grimy La Zona without fun, sexy, attractive girls and glammy party life. Besides, after breakfast and crossing the border back, I could never get home before noon, so I would lose half a day or the whole day. I prefer to drive home late, sleep all night and wake up in the morning having a full day available in front of me hehe.

I usually drink 5 to 6 beers a night in the club, got stopped a few times by policia, including an alcohol test with a breath analyzer, never got nailed with DUI. Have not been pulled over late at night or seen the alcohol check point recently. Besides policia still roam around La Zona, checking cars in the day time. Lots of rationalizing, but basically I don't like to waste any time in Tijuana besides partying, flirting and screwing girls hehe.

Friday night, early Saturday morning the wingman wanted to hang out with his ugly bar girl so I drove back late, about 2 AM. He drank too much, could not stand or walk steadily, for sure could not drive back safely, so I had to drive back. Did not see any policia in Tijuana after 2 AM..

[Captain Solo]

Travv,

Last few years I have been pulled over by policia 7 or 8 times late at night after 6 or 7 hours of partying, one time tested with breath analyzer in Tijuana's medical truck on Benito Juarez. My BAC was way below Tijuana legal limit, which AFAIK is half of California, something like 0. 04%. If policia gets me for DUI with solid evidence, I could easily get out of it with $20. One night last month a policia even volunteered to escort me around an alcohol check point on be Juarez, but I know I would pass their BAC test and declined. It turned out to be just a quick fugitive check point, no alcohol test truck on site.

I was pulled over by CHP late at night near La Jolla a few years ago. The 2 cops claimed I flew past their parked patrol car at high speed, nearly blew their door off blah blah blah. They were hoping to make a big bust, gave me a long DUI test which I passed, so they gave me a speeding ticket instead. A SD attorney, Elizabeth Aronson, got the ticket dismissed for a small sum. Remember her name, a very good attorney and a beautiful, classy princess.

In the last couple years I got pulled over too many times on freeway by CHP, got a few tickets. I am more worried about CHP than the dumb and corrupt Tijuana policias. But you are right. Knowing the dire consequences of DUI in Mexico and California I should modify my driving habits, may be staying over on nights I feel tired or inebriated. Sometimes the problem is to accommodate the wingmen's work schedules or spousal commitments ect. But this latest wingman is irresponsible and repeatedly felt too drunk or too tired to drive. I am really mad at this loser, so I have to figure out alternatives.

You are a real gentleman with lots of experiences in Tijuana and kind concerns for the bros' safety. I wish you would share more of your experiences in this forum and just ignore jealous, ignorant guys who claim to know everything and crudely attack other bros without clear facts, solid evidences or good reasonings.

[StRobert]

Travv,

Last few years I have been pulled over by policia 7 or 8 times late at night after 6 or 7 hours of partying, one time tested with breath analyzer in Tijuana's medical truck on Benito Juarez. My BAC was way below Tijuana legal limit, which AFAIK is half of California, something like 0. 04%. If policia gets me for DUI with solid evidence, I could easily get out of it with $20. One night last month a policia even volunteered to escort me around an alcohol check point on be Juarez, but I know I would pass their BAC test and declined. It turned out to be just a quick fugitive check point, no alcohol test truck on site.

I was pulled over by CHP late at night near La Jolla a few years ago. The 2 cops claimed I flew past their parked patrol car at high speed, nearly blew their door off blah blah blah. They were hoping to make a big bust, gave me a long DUI test which I passed, so they gave me a speeding ticket instead. A SD attorney, Elizabeth Aronson, got the ticket dismissed for a small sum. Remember her name, a very good attorney and a beautiful, classy princess.

In the last couple years I got pulled over too many times on freeway by CHP, got a few tickets. I am more worried about CHP than the dumb and corrupt Tijuana policias. But you are right. Knowing the dire consequences of DUI in Mexico and California I should modify my driving habits, may be staying over on nights I feel tired or inebriated. Sometimes the problem is to accommodate the wingmen's work schedules or spousal commitments ect. But this latest wingman is irresponsible and repeatedly felt too drunk or too tired to drive. I am really mad at this loser, so I have to figure out alternatives.

You are a real gentleman with lots of experiences in Tijuana and kind concerns for the bros' safety. I wish you would share more of your experiences in this forum and just ignore jealous, ignorant guys who claim to know everything and crudely attack other bros without clear facts, solid evidences or good reasonings.Captain Solo. When you come back at 2 AM from Tijuana Zona Norte party, it is safer to spend the night in a motel with parking on the US side, somewhere close to the border with a short taxi ride. But if you plan on visiting Tijuana Zona Norte every weekend for the next 20 to 40 years it is better to move permanently somewhere close to the border to San Diego county. This way you will save a lot of money and time.

[Jinxx]

I don't know about anyone else. But potholes are a huge risk in Tijuana for drivers. I had 2 major flats in the last 4 weeks. These were nearly brand new. I found the first flat after I got my car from the garage so it may have not been a pothole. But on my 2nd flat, I hit a pothole at only about 20 mph and it blew out my new tire. The pothole was so deep that I thought I felt the bottom of my car hit pavement.Potholes and impossibly STEEP hills. I was dropping my 19 year old amiga off in the Camino Verde neighborhood and using GPS to guide me back to the main road I come up to a hill that literally looked like I was about to drive off a cliff. I parked my car, walked over to the hill and looked down, and it literally was so steep it looked like almost like dropping off a cliff. I said fuck that, so I turned around to go back up the hill the way I came from but the hill was so steep my tires just spun out. You remember the saying "past the point of no return"? That was me I had no choice but to drive down the hill that looked like a straight drop off a cliff. My bunghole tightened up super tight. The hill was so steep my car bottomed out as I started the initial descent. I somehow made it out of there unscathed, but for a second I wasn't sure I was going to make it. Be careful driving around the hills of Tijuana. If you come up to a super steep hill turn around before it's too late. Back out of it and find another route, especially at night. Or risk your vehicle sliding or tumbling off the side of a mountain.

[Hargow20]

Fairly surprised you were pulled over by the CHP so often. I rarely see CHP officers when I am on the 5. But I supposed there far less cars at 2 am. Much wiser to not speed at that time of night.


Travv,

Last few years I have been pulled over by policia 7 or 8 times late at night after 6 or 7 hours of partying, one time tested with breath analyzer in Tijuana's medical truck on Benito Juarez. My BAC was way below Tijuana legal limit, which AFAIK is half of California, something like 0. 04%. If policia gets me for DUI with solid evidence, I could easily get out of it with $20. One night last month a policia even volunteered to escort me around an alcohol check point on be Juarez, but I know I would pass their BAC test and declined. It turned out to be just a quick fugitive check point, no alcohol test truck on site.

I was pulled over by CHP late at night near La Jolla a few years ago. The 2 cops claimed I flew past their parked patrol car at high speed, nearly blew their door off blah blah blah. They were hoping to make a big bust, gave me a long DUI test which I passed, so they gave me a speeding ticket instead. A SD attorney, Elizabeth Aronson, got the ticket dismissed for a small sum. Remember her name, a very good attorney and a beautiful, classy princess.

In the last couple years I got pulled over too many times on freeway by CHP, got a few tickets. I am more worried about CHP than the dumb and corrupt Tijuana policias. But you are right. Knowing the dire consequences of DUI in Mexico and California I should modify my driving habits, may be staying over on nights I feel tired or inebriated. Sometimes the problem is to accommodate the wingmen's work schedules or spousal commitments ect. But this latest wingman is irresponsible and repeatedly felt too drunk or too tired to drive. I am really mad at this loser, so I have to figure out alternatives.

You are a real gentleman with lots of experiences in Tijuana and kind concerns for the bros' safety. I wish you would share more of your experiences in this forum and just ignore jealous, ignorant guys who claim to know everything and crudely attack other bros without clear facts, solid evidences or good reasonings.

[Hargow20]

Update:

When I crossed last evening there was no change crossing.


If anyone sees any new changes in Mexican immigration policy please post. ? It is quite possible they could start demanding prescriptions once again.

[Captain Solo]

StRobert.

I am fine driving back about midnight. After 2 AM I get tired and sleepy. I am a deep sleeper. Once I drop off I would sleep like a log for straight 8 hours.

Moving south is a very tempting idea. A lot of guys I know are trying to find jobs in SD so they can go to Tijuana often. If I move I would find a nice second place in Tijuana and keep minimum clothing there just to crash a few nights a month. Then it would be cheaper and more convenient just crashing in a hotel in La Zona. Travv spends lots of time in Tijuana. I found him just about every time I am in HK, ran into him at breakfast at 8 in Las Perlas. He's a pro and probably has all the best solutions to Tijuana problems hehe. I like to go to Tijuana with wingmen and party with girls, but will have to rein in this wingman, who already divorced 3 wives, can only pop once a day, but wants to sit with girls all night, and I would sleep in Tijuana when I don't feel like driving. Then he would cry that he would get fired from his job and get shit on by wives and kids ect. This guy is weak and irrational with girls and needs reprogramming.

We just try to do too many things, have too much fun with hot girls with very little time and may get into troubles. There are warning signs that I take seriously and will have to modify my playing and driving habits.

[Hargow20]

Personally I would stay in a Airbnb in SD. You can find a cheap clean one for a very cheap price. Even though I live in SD I find visiting Tijuana to be fairly tiring sometimes. The whole ordeal of parking & walking to the Zona takes a lot out of me epsecially when the weather is hot. I really miss the days when it was fairly easy to find a hot SW on El Cajon blvd. The risk of LE was relatively low and the quality was better. Whenever I visit Tijuana I carry some drinks and a few snacks to help keep expenses down. I almost always stop at the 99 cents only store for some cheap food.


StRobert.

I am fine driving back about midnight. After 2 AM I get tired and sleepy. I am a deep sleeper. Once I drop off I would sleep like a log for straight 8 hours.

Moving south is a very tempting idea. A lot of guys I know are trying to find jobs in SD so they can go to Tijuana often. If I move I would find a nice second place in Tijuana and keep minimum clothing there just to crash a few nights a month. Then it would be cheaper and more convenient just crashing in a hotel in La Zona. Travv spends lots of time in Tijuana. I found him just about every time I am in HK, ran into him at breakfast at 8 in Las Perlas. He's a pro and probably has all the best solutions to Tijuana problems hehe. I like to go to Tijuana with wingmen and party with girls, but will have to rein in this wingman, who already divorced 3 wives, can only pop once a day, but wants to sit with girls all night, and I would sleep in Tijuana when I don't feel like driving. Then he would cry that he would get fired from his job and get shit on by wives and kids ect. This guy is weak and irrational with girls and needs reprogramming.

We just try to do too many things, have too much fun with hot girls with very little time and may get into troubles. There are warning signs that I take seriously and will have to modify my playing and driving habits.

[Captain Solo]

Why should I want to drive back to sleep in SD? If I am tired, sleepy or have a buzz, I could very quickly crash in a nice, clean hotel in Tijuana for cheap.

We used to book hotel rooms, party all night then crash in the room, wake up 4 AM and start driving back, stopping along Fwy 5 for a quick breakfast and real coffee. By 5 AM the SENTRI lanes would have a long waiting line on Padre kino way beyond the Chuhuatemoc rotary. Some morning policia blocks traffic on many streets for no apparent reasons and traffic severely congested. Traffic in Tijuana is a biitch. I hate to drive in commuting hours.

There are lots of hot chicas in HK and Chavelas in the last 2 weeks. Some of the hottest chicas have come back to work after 9 months without income. We are going down this Thursday for Mexican Thanksgiving, renting all night room in Cascada so we can bring girls up for long sessions, and stay half day Friday for some more drinking, partying and having sex with hot chicas.

I will drive at exactly 65 MPH all the way to keep CHP and the slow pokes in this forum happy hehehe.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-11-24/cartel-cash-drugs-ammo-seized

Federal agents seized $3. 5 million in cash and massive quantities of cocaine, fentanyl and. 50-caliber ammunition from an Otay Mesa truck yard. (Homeland Security Investigations).

By Kristina Davis.

NOV. 24,20209:29 PM.

San Diego — Three Mexican nationals tied to cross-border trucking companies were charged Tuesday in San Diego federal court following the discovery of a massive cache of drugs, cash and ammunitions stockpiled at an Otay Mesa truck yard, the USA Attorney's office said.

The cumulative seizure — $3. 5 million in cash, 685 kilograms of cocaine, 24 kilograms of fentanyl, about 20,000 rounds of. 50-caliber ammunition and hundreds of body armor vests — is believed to be the largest of its kind in the Southern District of California, federal prosecutors said.

The stash illustrates the pillars of a drug-trafficking empire: narcotics that flow north and illicit proceeds that flow south, along with USA Weaponry to maintain control over it all.

This collection belonged to the Sinaloa Cartel, authorities said. The three men who were arrested — Chula Vista resident Jesus Burgos Arias and Tijuana, Mexico, residents Juan Alatorre Venegas and Jose Yee Perez — are accused of trafficking drugs on the organization's behalf.

The case is part of a much broader investigation into the cartel's activities, a probe that began nearly a decade ago in San Diego County and has resulted in charges against more than 125 people, many of them leaders in the inner circle of the organization.

One thread led investigators to a pair of brothers, Jorge Alberto Valenzuela Valenzuela and Gabriel Valenzuela Valenzuela, identified as high-ranking members who together own multiple Mexican trucking companies that they use to transport cocaine from Sinaloa, Mexico, into the USA, according to an arrest affidavit. The trucks are also used to ferry cash from the drug sales back to Mexico, authorities said.

Burgos, Alatorre and Yee are accused of working for the brothers, according to the affidavit.

On Oct. 15, agents watched Burgos and Jorge Valenzuela at an airport in Long Beach, preparing to board a private jet with eight suitcases. But the pilot inspected the contents of one piece of luggage, discovering what appeared to be bricks of drugs wrapped in plastic, according to the affidavit.

Valenzuela was arrested Oct. 29 outside of Boston after taking another flight from San Diego to the East Coast.

On Friday, agents put an Otay Mesa truck yard under surveillance, and sheriff's deputies conducted traffic stops on three departing vehicles: tractor-trailers driven by Alatorre and Yee and a Ford pickup driven by Burgos.

A subsequent search of the commercial facility revealed the millions of dollars, most of it wrapped in plastic and coated in axle grease. The drugs were found in the garage, and the ammo and body armor were found loaded into a tractor-trailer — likely bound for Mexico, investigators said. An AK-47-style rifle, which had been reported stolen in LOS Angeles in 2017, was also seized.

Authorities did not give the exact location of the facility.

"This seizure is significant not just because of its size, but because it demonstrates the direct correlation between narcotics, illicit money and guns that drives violence in our communities and destroys lives," said Cardell T. Morant, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations. The agency worked jointly with the Drug Enforcement Administration, the San Diego Police Department and Sheriff's Department and the USA Attorney's office.

The initial investigation into the cartel began in 2011, when authorities thought they were dealing with a small-scale drug distribution cell in National City and Chula Vista. But the drugs were traced back to the cartel, and the case was expanded and continues today.

Among those who took guilty pleas were Dámaso López-Serrano, a godson of Sinaloa cartel kingpin Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán; Jose Rodrigo Arechiga Gamboa, who led the cartel's assassin squad as "El Chino Antrax"; and Serafin Zambada Ortiz, a USA Citizen born in San Diego who is a son of the cartel's at-large co-leader, Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada.

Last week, a former Mexican federal police officer alleged to be a high-ranking member, Ramón Santoyo Cristóbal, was extradited to San Diego following an arrest last year in Rome on a 2016 warrant.

There have also been tunnel builders, money launderers and numerous low-level associates prosecuted as a result of the investigation.

While Guzmán had been indicted in San Diego as part of a prior investigation, he was ultimately prosecuted in Brooklyn. He is serving a life sentence in a super-maximum security prison in Colorado.

Kristina Davis writes for the San Diego Union-Tribune.

[Captain Solo]

Anyone with a little experience in Mexico would know its government is corrupt from top to bottom, and the alleged cooperation by Mexico's military and policia is a sick joke, more like pick pocketing and back stabbing, not worth bargaining for. DEA can always use confidential informants and high-tech surveillance to investigate. They don't need Mexico's officials to involve and compromise their work. Considering the threats and damages done to the people in America by the cartels and their enablers, the US is a sovereign country and should have gone ahead and prosecute whomever violated her laws and not bowed to pressure from foreign countries. Releasing an indicted foreign official is a very bad precedent. Strong and firm legal prosecution of criminals, whoever and wherever thay are, will benefit the people of America and may assist in improving other countries' socio-political systems.

Looks like the cartels are winning the war on drugs, more people will be kidnapped, tortured, murdered to enforce trafficking and sales of drugs in the US, to enrich cartels bosses and the generals. Civilian government will bow and follow orders from the powerful military. Military patrols on the streets of Mexico and alleged cooperation with US DEA are just phony theatricals. They are just playing US' LE for more aids, to corrupt America and to enrich themselves on the back of the people in both countries.

In the end, generations of the peoples of America and Mexico will have to pay very high prices for the corruption and destructions of their societies by drug cartels and their government enablers.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mexican-armys-secret-brotherhood-forced-general-salvador-cienfuegos-zepedas-release

Mexican Army's 'Secret Brotherhood' Forced General's Release.

High-ranking military officers blackmailed the civilian government into pushing USA Prosecutors to drop drug trafficking charges against a former defense secretary.

Jeremy Kryt.

Published Nov. 26,2020 5:27 AM ET.

Daniel Becerril / Reuters.

Cali, Colombia—It's called El Sindicado, or the Syndicate. Allegedly, it's a "secret brotherhood" within Mexico's military that also wields some control over the civilian government.

How much control? Apparently enough that the cabal of elite four-star generals successfully forced the release of General Salvador Cienfuegos Zepeda, a former national defense secretary, from USA Custody earlier this month.

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Cienfuegos had been arrested on drug trafficking charges in LOS Angeles on Oct. 15, and DEA agents and prosecutors had built a strong case against him based on intercepted calls and text messages from his phone. The assembled evidence revealed that El Padrino (the Godfather), as Cienfuegos was known to his underworld contacts, had helped Mexico's H-2 cartel move thousands of kilograms of cocaine, heroin, and crystal meth into the USA In exchange for bribes.

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But sources say the powerful cabal of retired and active-duty generals—which includes other, previous defense secretaries like Cienfuegos himself—had begun working to undermine the DEA's case and secure El Padrino's return to Mexico since the day of his arrest.

Within hours of his capture in California, where he had been vacationing with his family, the Syndicate had sent a representative to knock on the door of current defense chief Luis Crecencia Sandoval, according to Mexico City-based news site Emeequis, which first broke the story.

This cabal's rep is identified in the Emeequis report as an officer with experience fighting the cartels in northern Mexico, as well as a close friend of Sandoval. And the message he delivered was that the highest-ranking commanders of the army "were not going to sit with their arms crossed while a foreign government tore their credibility to shreds. ".

Sandoval was instructed to carry this message to President Andrés Manuel López Obrador (often known by the initials AMLO), and in the coming weeks similar dictums followed. The generals' push increased after Cienfuegos was transferred to a maximum security prison in New York, and eventually turned to outright blackmail.

"The army had to be very concerned that Cienfuegos would disclose names. ".

"(The Syndicate) exerted a very strong pressure on AMLO so that he, in turn, would make Trump free Cienfuegos," said Dr. Raúl Benítez-Manaut, a security expert with the National Autonomous University of Mexico, in an interview with The Daily Beast.

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That pressure included threats to "return to their barracks and no longer cooperate with the United States," Benítez-Manaut said.

After initially siding with the DEA, AMLO was allegedly forced to concede by his generals. His administration communicated the threat of ending bilateral cooperation for law enforcement to USA Attorney General Bill Barr, ultimately resulting in Cienfuegos being returned to Mexican soil with all charges against him dropped.

A Corrupt "Military Junta".

The incident highlights how the growing militarization of Mexico's drug war has empowered the armed forces while diminishing the authority of democratically elected officials. The army has been used to fight organized crime in Mexico since 2006, but its role increased sharply after AMLO took office in 2018.

"(The Syndicate) operates like a military junta that allows for a civilian president, but they pull the strings from the shadows," Mike Vigil, the former chief of operations for the DEA, told The Daily Beast.

Soldiers are now routinely used to police shipping ports and urban centers, and even in construction projects like the new international airport in Mexico City.

Vigil, who spent more than a dozen years stationed in Mexico, accused the military of "playing a role in every facet of the government. ".

A senior law enforcement official in Mexico, who asked that his name be withheld so he could speak freely, likened the Syndicate to a "clan of power" which Mexico's president must "serve blindly and absolutely out of fear for a coup against him. ".

"The military has always behaved independently and in their interests," the official said. "And they have a decisive influence on the president who must bow to their requests. ".

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'Donde estan los 43?

Jeremy Kryt.

The army's growing power in Mexico has not, however, translated to victory in the cartel wars. Instead, the death toll has continued to climb over the last few years. There have already been 29,182 murders within the first 10 months of 2020—including an 8-percent spike in October—putting it on pace to be the deadliest year in the country's history.

At the same time, the military's once sterling image has become increasingly tarnished. In recent years the armed forces have been implicated in a number of human rights abuses and extrajudicial killings. That list includes a massacre of 16 civilians in 2015 and the infamous disappearance of 43 students in Guerrero province—both of which happened under Cienfuegos's tenure as defense minister.

Dr. Robert Bunker, a research director with the strategic studies institute Futures LLC, compared Mexico's Syndicate to Venezuela's Cartel de LOS Soles, which is also said to be run by the country's top generals.

"The Mexican army was desperate to gain the release of Cienfuegos in order to maintain the illusion that they and the government have no ties to organized crime. "

"The officer corps in authoritarian and still transitioning authoritarian militaries, of which (Mexico's) is the latter, are corrupt and heavily profit from the illicit economy at the most senior levels," Bunker said in an email.

The army's internal corruption is one reason USA Law enforcement agencies prefer to work with the smaller but more elite Mexican Marines.

"The marines are viewed as being less tainted and corrupted by cartel money or actively profiting from narcotics trafficking," he said. "This is why they have traditionally been used as a 'hunter-capture' force to take down cartel kingpins rather than the army. "

"A Poster Boy for Impunity".

So what's next for El Padrino?

The AMLO administration has promised that he'll be tried fairly in Mexico but critics remain skeptical.

"I don't believe that he will be prosecuted because Mexico has never investigated Cienfuegos, nor do they have any charges against him," said former DEA chief Vigil. "he will be protected by the military cabal and the judiciary there is very weak. "

Vigil also pointed out that even if the case does go to trial the outcome will be in doubt, as the success rate in federal prosecutions is less than 5 percent.

"he will be a free man and will be a poster boy for corruption and impunity," Vigil said. He also said that part of the Syndicate's motivation for demanding the repatriation and avoiding a trial is so that the general can't out co-conspirators to cop a plea.

"The thousands of intercepted Blackberry communications showed that Cienfuegos was recruiting other army commanders to protect H-2's operations as they moved tons of drugs through multiple Mexican states to the USA Border," said Vigil. "The army had to be very concerned that Cienfuegos would disclose names," which would be "disastrous for the institution. ".

"(The Syndicate) operates like a military junta that allows for a civilian president, but they pull the strings from the shadows. "

The DEA and USA Prosecutors have made the evidence gathered in the case available to their counterparts in Mexico. But because the intercepted messages were collected by a foreign government there is no guarantee that judges will find them admissible.

Futures director Bunker said there might be a kind of show trial, during which the presiding judge could just "make the case fall apart. "

"I have trouble seeing Cienfuegos being convicted—even with a light sentence—since the army as an institution would be dishonored," Bunker said.

Benítez-Manaut agreed with that assessment:

"In Mexico the general opinion is that the judges will help him and he will not be hit with criminal charges. ".

Because of their power and influence and long-standing regard in Mexican society, commanders at the highest level sometimes do see themselves as above the law. "For them it is not impunity, it is a right," Benítez-Manaut said.

Vigil agreed. "There is a different set of rules for high ranking corrupt officials. The military normally gets a stay-out-of-jail card for corruption and wholesale massacres," he said.

Another motive to quash the case could be the need for the military as a whole to preserve its image as an almost sanctified entity—one immune to the influence of narco-traffickers—lest Mexico come to be seen as a full-fledged narco state.

"The Mexican army was desperate to gain the release of Cienfuegos in order to maintain the illusion that they and the government have no ties to organized crime," Vigil said.

Despite such efforts at damage control, the rift between USA Law enforcement and the military in Mexico may be irreparable, at least for the near future.

Vigil called the new-found distrust between Mexico's security forces and the DEA a "malignant tumor" that will continue to fester.

"The issue of Cienfuegos release will certainly choke the critical exchange of information between both countries," Vigil said, "and that will only benefit the violent cartels. "

[Artisttyp]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexico-moves-stem-unauthorized-sharing-204243058.html

[Dogers69]

Anyone with a little experience in Mexico would know its government is corrupt from top to bottom, and the alleged cooperation by Mexico's military and policia is a sick joke, more like pick pocketing and back stabbing, not worth bargaining for. DEA can always use confidential informants and high-tech surveillance to investigate. They don't need Mexico's officials to involve and compromise their work. Considering the threats and damages done to the people in America by the cartels and their enablers, the US is a sovereign country and should have gone ahead and prosecute whomever violated her laws and not bowed to pressure from foreign countries. Releasing an indicted foreign official is a very bad precedent. Strong and firm legal prosecution of criminals, whoever and wherever thay are, will benefit the people of America and may assist in improving other countries' socio-political systems.

Looks like the cartels are winning the war on drugs, more people will be kidnapped, tortured, murdered to enforce trafficking and sales of drugs in the US, to enrich cartels bosses and the generals. Civilian government will bow and follow orders from the powerful military. Military patrols on the streets of Mexico and alleged cooperation with US DEA are just phony theatricals. They are just playing US' LE for more aids, to corrupt America and to enrich themselves on the back of the people in both countries.I would guess, trump allowed this guy to be released as a favor to keep the Mexican president safe in his own country, due to his cooperation on what trump cared about most concerning Mexico, which was immigrants flooding the border. These kinds of favors and tradeoffs would happen on showtimes homeland, always deals being done between countries. Mexico's sever problems, lack of unity as a country, and civil war taking place between the army, politicians, cartels, corrupt "cops", and its citizens, its fascinating to follow. For such a rich country financially, and to have utter chaos, there's no country like it. I do see united states trending towards Mexico in many ways, with the emptying of jails, eliminating police enforcement in many cities, letting people settle their own beefs, tracking down where politicians live to scare them into doing what your group wants.

[SpeedToys]

Looks like the cartels are winning the war on drugsIt was never a war, it was a cash grab by every level of LE.

Human nature will always prevail, and drug use / abuse / capitalization can't go away.

[Jackie888]

Potholes and impossibly STEEP hills. I was dropping my 19 year old amiga off in the Camino Verde neighborhood and using GPS to guide me back to the main road I come up to a hill that literally looked like I was about to drive off a cliff. I parked my car, walked over to the hill and looked down, and it literally was so steep it looked like almost like dropping off a cliff. I said fuck that, so I turned around to go back up the hill the way I came from but the hill was so steep my tires just spun out. You remember the saying "past the point of no return"? That was me I had no choice but to drive down the hill that looked like a straight drop off a cliff. My bunghole tightened up super tight. The hill was so steep my car bottomed out as I started the initial descent. I somehow made it out of there unscathed, but for a second I wasn't sure I was going to make it. Be careful driving around the hills of Tijuana. If you come up to a super steep hill turn around before it's too late. Back out of it and find another route, especially at night. Or risk your vehicle sliding or tumbling off the side of a mountain.LOL. I had the same experience driving a girl home over in East Tijuana at 5 in the morning. I remembered putting my car in 2nd gear to go up a double diamond hill so steep that I keep reminding myself to not touch the brakes. I avoided that road when leaving, and considered asking Google to add a hill steepness feature to Google Maps. Fuck, some of those roads out there have no barriers to prevent people from driving off the cliffs.

[Travv]

The book, Poso Del Mundo by Ovid Demaris described how the Nuevo Laredo policia fought the local cartel and got control of the local drug business, then the policia tried to fight off the Federales who were shutting their drug business down. . . This was back in the 70's offhand. Nothing new under the sun. . .


It was never a war, it was a cash grab by every level of LE.

Human nature will always prevail, and drug use / abuse / capitalization can't go away.

[SpeedToys]

The book, Poso Del Mundo by Ovid Demaris described how the Nuevo Laredo policia fought the local cartel and got control of the local drug business, then the policia tried to fight off the Federales who were shutting their drug business down. . . This was back in the 70's offhand. Nothing new under the sun. . .Ya, nothing new.

A reasonable, but politically impossible approach, would be to create a pathway for the cartels to. Supply the inevitable demand, but. Keep it 'clean', out the news, and much less visible, and there will be enough for everyone, and we won't be forced to be on your ass.

[ClamSlammer]

The book, Poso Del Mundo by Ovid Demaris described how the Nuevo Laredo policia fought the local cartel and got control of the local drug business, then the policia tried to fight off the Federales who were shutting their drug business down. . . This was back in the 70's offhand. Nothing new under the sun. . .Just 8 years ago, in Mexico City airport there was a police vs. Police shootout.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18581077

[Captain Solo]

Inevitable demand?

Remember the Opium War in China in the 18th and 19th century? Western countries with opium for sale and small groups of marines were able to subjugate, master and control hundred millions Chinese for a couple hundred years.

Not to mention the current addiction, loss of productivity, vices, crime waves and many other social ills caused by loaded drugs lords.

If you have to addict to something, addict to beers, food and sex, both taste good and healthy, available abundantly and cheaply in Tijuana. Food and sex also keeps the women from going horny and insane, and revolve against the government.

A reasonable, but politically impossible approach, would be to create a pathway for the cartels to. Supply the inevitable demand, but. Keep it 'clean', out the news, and much less visible, and there will be enough for everyone, and we won't be forced to be on your ass.


Ya, nothing new.

A reasonable, but politically impossible approach, would be to create a pathway for the cartels to. Supply the inevitable demand, but. Keep it 'clean', out the news, and much less visible, and there will be enough for everyone, and we won't be forced to be on your ass.

[Hargow20]

There will always be certain number of people that use drugs. But I don't believe the drug gangs should be tolerated and allowed to operate freely. The drug gangs in Mexico is more difficult problem since corruption is much more pervasive. So long as the police allow drugs to be sold openly on the streets they will be a problem. The reduction in street muggings is one good thing that has happened in the Zona within the past few years. Before then people were getting mugged in broad daylight in the Zona. Today muggings still occasionally happen, but it is much more rare. There is still some unsafe areas such the south side of Nino's Hero's. Or Primera st between Constutucion & Ninos Hero's at night. Despite this I am still very careful in the Zona since one never knows when muggings might rise again in the Zona. I would agree being addicted to sex is a fairly harmless addiction. For myself I am addicted to sex and the pursuit of hotter girls. Although it is much harder to find hotter & newer SG / SW's in the Zona. I am disappointed that there has been so few new SW's in the Zona in recent years. Eiizabeth has been the only new hot SW that I have met in a few years.


Inevitable demand?

Remember the Opium War in China in the 18th and 19th century? Western countries with opium for sale and small groups of marines were able to subjugate, master and control hundred millions Chinese for a couple hundred years.

Not to mention the current addiction, loss of productivity, vices, crime waves and many other social ills caused by loaded drugs lords.

If you have to addict to something, addict to beers, food and sex, both taste good and healthy, available abundantly and cheaply in Tijuana. Food and sex also keeps the women from going horny and insane, and revolve against the government.

A reasonable, but politically impossible approach, would be to create a pathway for the cartels to. Supply the inevitable demand, but. Keep it 'clean', out the news, and much less visible, and there will be enough for everyone, and we won't be forced to be on your ass.

[Travv]

From my analysis, the drug sellers are not the ones robbing tourists and Mexican citizens. The drug buyers are to fund their habit. Seems to me that if the policia arrested buyers and put them to work in rehabilitation camps like China does, this would make Mexico much safer for the average citizen and tourists too. So the drug sellers should be tolerated since they are running a business and it is impossible for Mexico to stop them with their current methods; easier simply to legalize the sale so the cartel wars end and the Government collects taxes on the sales. The users would be in rehab where they couldn't rob others. This should drop the robbery and murder rate in Mexico considerably. Offhand, I don't think weed is something that people rob for; it is the meth and hard drug users who rob for money to buy hard drugs.


There will always be certain number of people that use drugs. But I don't believe the drug gangs should be tolerated and allowed to operate freely. The drug gangs in Mexico is more difficult problem since corruption is much more pervasive. So long as the police allow drugs to be sold openly on the streets they will be a problem. The reduction in street muggings is one good thing that has happened in the Zona within the past few years. Before then people were getting mugged in broad daylight in the Zona. Today muggings still occasionally happen, but it is much more rare. There is still some unsafe areas such the south side of Nino's Hero's. Or Primera st between Constutucion & Ninos Hero's at night. Despite this I am still very careful in the Zona since one never knows when muggings might rise again in the Zona. I would agree being addicted to sex is a fairly harmless addiction. For myself I am addicted to sex and the pursuit of hotter girls. Although it is much harder to find hotter & newer SG / SW's in the Zona. I am disappointed that there has been so few new SW's in the Zona in recent years. Eiizabeth has been the only new hot SW that I have met in a few years.

[Jackie888]

There will always be certain number of people that use drugs. But I don't believe the drug gangs should be tolerated and allowed to operate freely. The drug gangs in Mexico is more difficult problem since corruption is much more pervasive. So long as the police allow drugs to be sold openly on the streets they will be a problem. The reduction in street muggings is one good thing that has happened in the Zona within the past few years. Before then people were getting mugged in broad daylight in the Zona. Today muggings still occasionally happen, but it is much more rare. There is still some unsafe areas such the south side of Nino's Hero's. Or Primera st between Constutucion & Ninos Hero's at night. Despite this I am still very careful in the Zona since one never knows when muggings might rise again in the Zona. I would agree being addicted to sex is a fairly harmless addiction. For myself I am addicted to sex and the pursuit of hotter girls. Although it is much harder to find hotter & newer SG / SW's in the Zona. I am disappointed that there has been so few new SW's in the Zona in recent years. Eiizabeth has been the only new hot SW that I have met in a few years.Dude, you go with one of the same three SW white girls for the last 5 years. That is not really a sex addiction. You are probably more faithful than half of married men.

[Rainman306]

I have to strongly agree with others on here that walking to or from the border to Zona Norte from either Pedwest or PedEast is a bad idea. I've see videos on YouTube, and on either route your not going to be near businesses or a lot of people the whole way.

Even if you stay 100% sober, and are wide awake & alert, your still going to have at least part of your mind in the gutter about the sensual activities either about to occur or have just occurred. I'm sure some guys have walked 20,50, 100 times okay, but you don't want 1 in 100 odds of something bad happening you want like 1 in 50,000 odds, and I don't see that being the case.

I understand that guys into the hobby really hard try to save money everywhere else in their life, but I don't think a few bucks on transport from the border is the right option to do so.

[ClamSlammer]

I have to strongly agree with others on here that walking to or from the border to Zona Norte from either Pedwest or PedEast is a bad idea....you don't want 1 in 100 odds of something bad happening you want like 1 in 50,000 odds, and I don't see that being the case.

I understand that guys into the hobby really hard try to save money everywhere else in their life, but I don't think a few bucks on transport from the border is the right option to do so.Pretty much everyone on here agrees, except for Scatman. He implored newbies to get off the trolley, take the $1 shuttle to PedWest, cross, then walk almost a full mile, at night, with bulging pockets flush with puta cash, toting a suitcase, through one of the most dangerous sections of the #5 murder capital of the world, and arrive at HK on the brink of passing out, to save the colossal sum of $1 usd. He said that was far superior to my suggestion, which was to get off the trolley, cross, and pay Uber $2 to safely arrive in the Zona. His reasoning was his suggestion was superior because it was $1 usd cheaper.

[BrotherMouzone]

I have to strongly agree with others on here that walking to or from the border to Zona Norte from either Pedwest or PedEast is a bad idea. I've see videos on YouTube, and on either route your not going to be near businesses or a lot of people the whole way.

Even if you stay 100% sober, and are wide awake & alert, your still going to have at least part of your mind in the gutter about the sensual activities either about to occur or have just occurred. I'm sure some guys have walked 20,50, 100 times okay, but you don't want 1 in 100 odds of something bad happening you want like 1 in 50,000 odds, and I don't see that being the case.

I understand that guys into the hobby really hard try to save money everywhere else in their life, but I don't think a few bucks on transport from the border is the right option to do so.I think during the day, especially if you don't have a suitcase and you're following other people walking in the same direction, walking is fine if you know the way. I (very stupidly looking back) did the walk past midnight from PedEast to Zona Norte once last year and had no issues, though wouldn't recommend walking at night to anyone else. The route was completely deserted. But I actually feel pretty comfortable walking during the day.

[BrotherMouzone]

Pretty much everyone on here agrees, except for Scatman. He implored newbies to get off the trolley, take the $1 shuttle to PedWest, cross, then walk almost a full mile, at night, with bulging pockets flush with puta cash, toting a suitcase, through one of the most dangerous sections of the #5 murder capital of the world, and arrive at HK on the brink of passing out, to save the colossal sum of $1 usd. He said that was far superior to my suggestion, which was to get off the trolley, cross, and pay Uber $2 to safely arrive in the Zona. His reasoning was his suggestion was superior because it was $1 usd cheaper.Is there a particular spot near the border where you catch Uber to Zona Norte? I use Uber all the time elsewhere in Tijuana, but have been reluctant to use it at the border because it seems like it could be difficult for the driver to locate you (and vice-versa) with all the people and traffic in that immediate area. Am also not completely comfortable standing around in that area for more than a couple of minutes because it seems a couple Tijuana policia are usually in that area watching everything. So I usually just hop in a taxi or walk just to get out of there as fast as possible.

[OrganicAlo]

Is there a particular spot near the border where you catch Uber to Zona Norte? I use Uber all the time elsewhere in Tijuana, but have been reluctant to use it at the border because it seems like it could be difficult for the driver to locate you (and vice-versa) with all the people and traffic in that immediate area. Am also not completely comfortable standing around in that area for more than a couple of minutes because it seems a couple Tijuana policia are usually in that area watching everything. So I usually just hop in a taxi or walk just to get out of there as fast as possible.Yeah, the uber pick up spot is across the street in front of the farmacia, just use app to pinpoint the driver.

I was always reluctant to cross that street at first, but it's really no big deal, everyone there is just waiting for their rides. I never cross at night though.

[Artisttyp]

Is there a particular spot near the border where you catch Uber to Zona Norte? I use Uber all the time elsewhere in Tijuana, but have been reluctant to use it at the border because it seems like it could be difficult for the driver to locate you (and vice-versa) with all the people and traffic in that immediate area. Am also not completely comfortable standing around in that area for more than a couple of minutes because it seems a couple Tijuana policia are usually in that area watching everything. So I usually just hop in a taxi or walk just to get out of there as fast as possible.The pick up spot from Ped East is usually in front of the pharmacy or just a little passed it in front of the parking lot / wire fence. You will see people waiting there. The other spot is around the bend directly across the street from the turnstiles where you would normally hop a local taxi. In this case you walk the opposite direction from the line of taxis and walk around the bended curve. That way traffic cops don't give them a hard time for picking up people.

You will get the hang of it. Make sure you wear a hat or clothing item that sticks out so the driver can recognize you. Add the description in your pick up notes.

When Pedwest reopens eventually you can ask to be picked up on Calle de LOS tacos. This is what my taxi driver calls the street directly in back of the Ped West drop off area.

[Hargow20]

Actually it is about 5 WSW's. I tend to stick to the same girls because there is not more light skinned girls that give good service & interest me. This is the main thing that disappints me about the Zona.


Dude, you go with one of the same three SW white girls for the last 5 years. That is not really a sex addiction. You are probably more faithful than half of married men.

[ClamSlammer]

Yeah, the uber pick up spot is across the street in front of the farmacia, just use app to pinpoint the driver.

I was always reluctant to cross that street at first, but it's really no big deal, everyone there is just waiting for their rides. I never cross at night though.Wait, you're reluctant to cross the street to Farmacia Milenio at night? Why? There's always a million people in that immediate area, no way can any ratero try to do anything there.


Is there a particular spot near the border where you catch Uber to Zona Norte? I use Uber all the time elsewhere in Tijuana, but have been reluctant to use it at the border because it seems like it could be difficult for the driver to locate you (and vice-versa) with all the people and traffic in that immediate area. Am also not completely comfortable standing around in that area for more than a couple of minutes because it seems a couple Tijuana policia are usually in that area watching everything. So I usually just hop in a taxi or walk just to get out of there as fast as possible.I don't ever remember seeing cops in that area. Besides, there's way too many witnesses present for the cops to try and steal from anybody there. Most Ubers pick up around Farmacia Milenio which is right across the street from the end of the walkway. If you don't want to wait for an Uber and are feeling adventurous, you can take the bus / shuttle to Dax on 3 ra and Constitucion. For $10 mx, it drops you off about 2. 5 blocks directly south of La Malquerida. It's a short walk, I've done it myself countless times myself late at night. The block between 2 da and 1 ra is somewhat sketchy, but not an extreme high risk area.

[ScatManDoo]

I think during the day, especially if you don't have a suitcase and you're following other people walking in the same direction, walking is fine if you know the way. I (very stupidly looking back) did the walk past midnight from PedEast to Zona Norte once last year and had no issues, though wouldn't recommend walking at night to anyone else. The route was completely deserted. But I actually feel pretty comfortable walking during the day.The short walk from Ped West to the Zona is relatively safe (and has reasonably populated businesses and pedestrians during that stretch during the daytime. I would do it ONLY in daytime. I have done it at night, but also would not recommend it.

Only some low-life liar would say that I would recommend walking it at night.

[Jackie888]

I think one of the most basic rule and one that anyone can easily remember is that it is safe to go where there is a lot of people. Have uber pick you up and drop you off where there is a lot of people. Walk where there is a lot of people. This is true at night but can also save your ass in the daytime.

[Hargow20]

I have only had problems twice walking to and from Zona. About 2 years a ratero demanded money from me on the pedestrian bridge. About a month ago a cop tried to shake me down by the east end of the old shopping center where the McDonalds used to be. These days I am more cautious and take Uber or a cab after 9 pm.


I think one of the most basic rule and one that anyone can easily remember is that it is safe to go where there is a lot of people. Have uber pick you up and drop you off where there is a lot of people. Walk where there is a lot of people. This is true at night but can also save your ass in the daytime.

[Ctytek]

I have only had problems twice walking to and from Zona. About 2 years a ratero demanded money from me on the pedestrian bridge. About a month ago a cop tried to shake me down by the east end of the old shopping center where the McDonalds used to be. These days I am more cautious and take Uber or a cab after 9 pm.I hear you also upgraded to street hookers who are just heroin addicts. Before. It was all meth addicts with half teeth missing. You are way to classy for most to keep up with.

[BrotherMouzone]

Wait, you're reluctant to cross the street to Farmacia Milenio at night? Why? There's always a million people in that immediate area, no way can any ratero try to do anything there.

I don't ever remember seeing cops in that area. Besides, there's way too many witnesses present for the cops to try and steal from anybody there. Most Ubers pick up around Farmacia Milenio which is right across the street from the end of the walkway. If you don't want to wait for an Uber and are feeling adventurous, you can take the bus / shuttle to Dax on 3 ra and Constitucion. For $10 mx, it drops you off about 2. 5 blocks directly south of La Malquerida. It's a short walk, I've done it myself countless times myself late at night. The block between 2 da and 1 ra is somewhat sketchy, but not an extreme high risk area.I have seen cops either parked over to the side after you get through the border turnstile into Tijuana or standing in the center strip as you cross the street to the taxi line the past couple of times I've been as well as some other times. But your point about too many witnesses present is noted, thanks. OK. Thanks for the tip on the Farmacia. I see where it is. Across the street after you enter Tijuana, to the right past the public banos where there's that big pharmacy. I'd never walked down that far. Will try Uber from there next time.

Yeah, I've taken the 10 peso shuttle from the border to near Zona Norte a couple times before. Pretty straightforward. I believe both times I've gotten off on or around Revolucion as I'm more familiar with that street. Don't know if the stop there is a further distance than the 3 ra / Constitucion stop you mention but it was a short walk to Zona Norte from there.

[Dogers69]

I have seen cops either parked over to the side after you get through the border turnstile into Tijuana or standing in the center strip as you cross the street to the taxi line the past couple of times I've been as well as some other times. But your point about too many witnesses present is noted, thanks. OK. Thanks for the tip on the Farmacia. I see where it is. Across the street after you enter Tijuana, to the right past the public banos where there's that big pharmacy. I'd never walked down that far. Will try Uber from there next time.

Yeah, I've taken the 10 peso shuttle from the border to near Zona Norte a couple times before. Pretty straightforward. I believe both times I've gotten off on or around Revolucion as I'm more familiar with that street. Don't know if the stop there is a further distance than the 3 ra / Constitucion stop you mention but it was a short walk to Zona Norte from there.My routine has always been to jump on the 50 pesos bus to centro. Tonight I tried uber due to others saying they do it. Just getting across the street was dangerous with cars missing me by a foot. Uber said 5 bucks at 6 pm. I stick to the bus.

[Hargow20]

If price, quality & service was more reasonable I would gladly see the club girls. The problem is that either you the have SG's that give lame service or you have the clob girls that want $100 min. These days Cathy is the only SG I will see. Cathy is very hot. But her services are very limited.


I hear you also upgraded to street hookers who are just heroin addicts. Before. It was all meth addicts with half teeth missing. You are way to classy for most to keep up with.

[ClamSlammer]

My routine has always been to jump on the 50 pesos bus to centro. Tonight I tried uber due to others saying they do it. Just getting across the street was dangerous with cars missing me by a foot. Uber said 5 bucks at 6 pm. I stick to the bus.Very short report but as expected, not short on lies and distortions.

1. There is no $50 peso bus. This is a flat out lie.

2. The end of the walkway is a high foot traffic area. It's almost like a cul-de-sac because cars have to slow down and make the you-turn to proceed to get out of that area. There is that one side street to turn right just past Milenio but barely anyone does down that street. So when you cross, pretty much every car is either about to enter a you-turn, or just emerged from a you-turn, so they are traveling at greatly reduced speed. It's not like a car can whizz by at 40 mph. Plus, that is a very high foot traffic area so the vast majority of cars are driving slow. No way did multiple cars just barely miss hitting you by a foot, especially at 6 pm on a Friday. That is a flat out lie.

3. The standard Uber rate from PedEast to HK is around $40 mx. To say that it was around $100 mx, I'm not going to say impossible, but unlikely. Uber rates do surge, especially at prime pickup times, but 2.5 x the usual rate is unlikely.

[CheckMate1]

Very short report but as expected, not short on lies and distortions.

1. There is no $50 peso bus. This is a flat out lie.

2. The end of the walkway is a high foot traffic area. It's almost like a cul-de-sac because cars have to slow down and make the you-turn to proceed to get out of that area. There is that one side street to turn right just past Milenio but barely anyone does down that street. So when you cross, pretty much every car is either about to enter a you-turn, or just emerged from a you-turn, so they are traveling at greatly reduced speed. It's not like a car can whizz by at 40 mph. Plus, that is a very high foot traffic area so the vast majority of cars are driving slow. No way did multiple cars just barely miss hitting you by a foot, especially at 6 pm on a Friday. That is a flat out lie.

3. The standard Uber rate from PedEast to HK is around $40 mx. To say that it was around $100 mx, I'm not going to say impossible, but unlikely. Uber rates do surge, especially at prime pickup times, but 2.5 x the usual rate is unlikely.Red Bus at peak time was 18 pesos was the last time I was down there. I think I paid 10 or 15 pesos from end of walk way to burger king.

[ScatManDoo]

Very short report but as expected, not short on lies and distortions.

1. There is no $50 peso bus. This is a flat out lie.

2. The end of the walkway is a high foot traffic area. It's almost like a cul-de-sac because cars have to slow down and make the you-turn to proceed to get out of that area. There is that one side street to turn right just past Milenio but barely anyone does down that street. So when you cross, pretty much every car is either about to enter a you-turn, or just emerged from a you-turn, so they are traveling at greatly reduced speed.Around five years ago I was riding in carpools from Orange County organized by Dick Army from the defunct old T. J. Amigos site.

He and his group of adventures showed me how to take a 12.5 peso fare yellow & white bus from the border area actually right to La Zona.

This full-size Yellow & White bus picks up passengers in the same basic area of Av. De la Amistad where the line is for Taxi Libras.

The bus crosses the river and heads back north on Constitution towards La Zona. The bus turns left on 1st street (Primera), where I get off it right in front of Bar Taurino.