Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Cocr Brotheler]

I was goin to ask what their poosies look like. These things looking more and more real. I would get one one but scared if I died and my family found it in my house LOL.

Seriously these fuck dollies getting more and more life like. This a great weapon against western fem-nazi machine! Is what they wanted to be left alone by men.

https://www.vsdoll.com/products/auburn-158cm-52-red-head-sex-doll-us-stock/

'Hole Depth

Vagina: 7.1 inches
Anus: 5.9 inches
Mouth: 4.7 inches'

Also comes with a vaginal cleaning tool and maintenance instructions!

'All Package Includes

Sex Doll as photoed
Wig as photoed
Disposable Heating Rod (Free gifts, no return or exchange)
Vaginal Cleaning Tool (Free gifts, no return or exchange)
Random Sexy Lingerie (Free gifts, no return or exchange)
Maintenance Instructions Very Important

We recommend you use water-based lubricant when entering the vagina, anus, and oral to prevent skin tears. Condoms are better for protection.
If you like doggy style, dont put weight on your dolls hand or wrist. Try to protect her palms use pillows, quilts, or any other soft objects to support the torso.
All sex doll has a metal skeleton with some fixed and movable joints, which enables them to flexibly assume various postures. However, we recommend that you do not place the real doll in an unusual posture for a long time. The skin of our doll is very soft and can not touch fire. So please keep away from sharp objects, fire sources, and hair dryers as they may hurt the dolls skin.
All love dolls must be cleaned after sex. You can just use free vaginal cleaning tool attached with the pacakge to clear her, or take a bath with her. Please be careful not to put her all the head & neck in the water. If you want to wash the love dolls face, wipe it gently with a damp cloth, a mild antibacterial soap is fine.
After it dries naturally, please use the baby powder or any other edible powder to keep the skin dry & soft.
Please make sure that all the clothes you wear for your love doll are not easy to fade. TPE material absorbs other colors easily and cannot be washed away with water. Although TPE stain remover could do an excellent job of removing most stains on the skin, some things may be difficult or even impossible to remove.
In order to prevent the material from aging, please do not put the doll under sunlight for a long time.'

[BigButtDetecto]

About 1/2 of murder convictions in Tijuana are where government officials are the defendants.

The 2 journalists murdered in the last 2 weeks have a history of reporting on government corruption.

What does that tell you?Te mexican president is in bed with the narcos. If you see something, say nothing. They will come after you.

[Cocr Brotheler]

We recommend you use water-based lubricant when entering the vagina, anus, and oral to prevent skin tears.

LOL!

[Cocr Brotheler]

Could be like a real creeper and buy a bunch of these to surround you all day and night until your last day on earth hehehehe! Better than Hugh Hefner!

https://www.vsdoll.com

[Captain Solo]

Cocr.

You think Vsdoll will give a steep volume discount if each ISG bro orders 7 dolls, one for each night of the week?

10% Off for Val Day!

https://www.vsdoll.com

[Captain Solo]

Cocr,

You can rent a doll at this LA warehouse for a few hours to find out how good she feels:

https://onlinesexdolls.com/products/kennedy

Who needs wives or Hong Kong girls?

[Cocr Brotheler]

Oh Kennedy! She so nice Capt! My life complete.

Check out Gretchen:

https://onlinesexdolls.com/products/gretchen-purchase

[Cocr Brotheler]

Has this been so quelled by Tijuana authorities that it hasn't shown up anywhere on any news outlet?Overall when you look at the high number of homicides in Tijuana this and many others unfortunately I guess aren't newsworthy.

[Captain Solo]

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[Jackie888]

Overall when you look at the high number of homicides in Tijuana this and many others unfortunately I guess aren't newsworthy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_rate

Tijuana is the murder capital of the world in 2019 with about 6 murders per day. The good news is that it was slightly lower in 2021 down to about 5 murders per day, give or take. BTW we are excluding missing persons (buried in the desert).

[ScatManDoo]

Oh Kennedy! She so nice Capt! My life complete.

Check out Gretchen:

https://onlinesexdolls.com/products/gretchen-purchaseI guess this is for when you get too drunk for chicas or piloting.

[Cocr Brotheler]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_rate

Tijuana is the murder capital of the world in 2019 with about 6 murders per day. The good news is that it was slightly lower in 2021 down to about 5 murders per day, give or take. BTW we are excluding missing persons (buried in the desert).According to this Youtube Tijuana#1 most dangerous city in MEX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qojshPxjA

[Baxter Slade]

According to this Youtube Tijuana#1 most dangerous city in MEX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qojshPxjAActually the last couple years it has been listed as the most dangerous city in the world.

[Captain Solo]

Guys,

I hang out within Tijuana are good, fun guys, educated, nice, caring, successful, generous. I really enjoy their companies.

More than a few are hard partiers and heavy drinkers. Once they start drinking and playing with bar girls, they don't want to stop and go home. They would party with friends and putas, drink hard liquors all night, stay until day break, 5 or 7 AM, then cross the border, start driving 2 or more hours to go home or to work. Their BAC would definitely be at least a few times above legal limits in Tijuana and US. One was falling down drunk on Tijuana street, had to be dragged to the car, but insisted on driving home.

They would try to drive home drunk, sleepy, deeply fatigued. Some put their cars on Self Driving Mode and fell asleep. SDM works only marginally, has been known to erroneously drive them to the Inland Empire, a hundred miles away from their homes, or potentially colliding with other vehicles. They have been lucky so far, not getting killed or maimed in accidents or busted by LE. At highway speeds, accidents usually cause fatalities or serious injuries, loss of limbs, even total disabilities or comas for drivers and passengers. A friend fell asleep at the wheel, crashed the car at about 60 MPH off a straight and wide open highway on flat land in the East Coast, had only head injuries, went into a coma for years. The consequences would be far worse in hilly California. Nothing is worth getting maimed or killed, especially for just a late night partying with the rotten putas.

After a night of partying, the safest thing is to get a room and sleep it off in Cascada or Rizzo de Oro, nice, clean, safe, $90 for a double room on weekend, $27 with VIP discount on Mon and Tuesday nights. Hotel Coahuila over Adelita costs only $65 on weekend, $20 Mon through Wednesday.

Or walk to the small and cheaper hotels on Constitucion, Garcia, Leyva, Hacienda de Santiago, Michoacan, Rapido ect. , not as nice or clean, but only $35 a night, or take a cheap UBER rides to many nice, clean, cheap hotel in downtown Tijuana.

Or sleep in the car a few hours to metabolize the alcohol and get fully awake. Pull in CalTrans's Park and Ride lots next to freeway 5, or pull off any exit, and just sleep it off. Don't park the car off freeways and sleep as CHP will check and may have grounds to file DUI charges.

I usually have 3 or 4 beers over 4 hours in the club and drive home before midnight, most times with safety drivers to alternate driving. I always get home before 1:30 AM when I would fall asleep. I know my limits and set my drinking and time limits accordingly. Have been DUI tested by Tijuana cops and CHP a few times and passed. Have been going to Tijuana for over 20 years. So far I have been lucky but did get very close to having serious accidents on freeways a few times despite always having safety drivers in the car pool.

I hate to see these young guys lose their lives, limbs or get permanently disabled over a night partying with hoes. They should have safety drivers for the return trip. If not, book a hotel room or pull into parking lots and sleep it off for a few hours, so they can come back and do it again the next week.

The bros in this site should do a big favor for these young guys, their loved ones and families and warn them sternly to take extreme cautions going home after partying in Tijuana.

[Artisttyp]

Ask yourself this the next time you are casually walking around Zona Norte.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/policiaca/Detienen-en-Tijuana-a-estadounidense-en-posesion-de-distintas-drogas-20220221-0016.html

[Cocr Brotheler]

Ask yourself this the next time you are casually walking around Zona Norte.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/policiaca/Detienen-en-Tijuana-a-estadounidense-en-posesion-de-distintas-drogas-20220221-0016.htmlWas he bringing 'supplies' into MEX, from MEX back to USA Or has stash down there working for a cartel?

[Artisttyp]

Was he bringing 'supplies' into MEX, from MEX back to USA Or has stash down there working for a cartel?That remains to be told. He was caught with them on his person in Centro/Zona Norte of all places.

We are all anxiously awaiting the follow up story.

[SpeedToys]

"Or sleep in the car a few hours to metabolize the alcohol and get fully awake. ".

That will still get you a DUI.

[Captain Solo]

Speedtoy.

With all the alcohol these guys drink, the whole fifth by himself, not sure how long it would take to break it down to below legal limit.

I am very concerned about these guys. What are your suggestions?

[SeaBeeJoe]

Guys,

I hang out within Tijuana are good, fun guys, educated, nice, caring, successful, generous. I really enjoy their companies.

More than a few are hard partiers and heavy drinkers. Once they start drinking and playing with bar girls, they don't want to stop and go home. They would party with friends and putas, drink hard liquors all night, stay until day break, 5 or 7 AM, then cross the border, start driving 2 or more hours to go home or to work. Their BAC would definitely be at least a few times above legal limits in Tijuana and US. One was falling down drunk on Tijuana street, had to be dragged to the car, but insisted on driving home.

They would try to drive home drunk, sleepy, deeply fatigued. Some put their cars on Self Driving Mode and fell asleep. SDM works only marginally, has been known to erroneously drive them to the Inland Empire, a hundred miles away from their homes, or potentially colliding with other vehicles. They have been lucky so far, not getting killed or maimed in accidents or busted by LE. At highway speeds, accidents usually cause fatalities or serious injuries, loss of limbs, even total disabilities or comas for drivers and passengers. A friend fell asleep at the wheel, crashed the car at about 60 MPH off a straight and wide open highway on flat land in the East Coast, had only head injuries, went into a coma for years. The consequences would be far worse in hilly California. Nothing is worth getting maimed or killed, especially for just a late night partying with the rotten putas..I agree Solo better to get a room then to kill yourself or someone else. I have done blow (Cocaine) to allow me to drive home in what I though was a semi sober state LOL. I even blew past a Tijuana dui check point, the cops were busy harassing others to bother with me. I was extremely lucky. Anyways it is not worth it, $10,000 dll fine in the state and mandatory jail. In Tijuana it is impound of your car and mandatory Tijuana jail time with 50 of your favorite Mexicans and concrete beds if your lucky enough to get one. Fuck all that just get a room and sleep it off, $90 is nothing, very cheap considering the alternatives.

[BlackThought]

Speedtoy.

With all the alcohol these guys drink, the whole fifth by himself, not sure how long it would take to break it down to below legal limit.

I am very concerned about these guys. What are your suggestions?Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. They're adults let them learn.

[Rambo1969]

Speedtoy.

With all the alcohol these guys drink, the whole fifth by himself, not sure how long it would take to break it down to below legal limit.

I am very concerned about these guys. What are your suggestions?I have written to HK management asking them to instructor waiters to not serve alcohol to clearly drunk guys. I said if you would not give a drink to your brother in that condition then do not sell that drink to this customer.

I guess there must not business / bar liability in Mexico for consequences from drunk driver actions. But I think serving drunk guys more alcohol is immoral.

[Jackie888]

I have written to HK management asking them to instructor waiters to not serve alcohol to clearly drunk guys. I said if you would not give a drink to your brother in that condition then do not sell that drink to this customer.

I guess there must not business / bar liability in Mexico for consequences from drunk driver actions. But I think serving drunk guys more alcohol is immoral.IMHO, the gameplan for all of the bars in the zona norte including HK is to get the guys drunk as fast as possible so that they really fleece the fool out of his money with additional drinks.

[SpeedToys]

Speedtoy.

With all the alcohol these guys drink, the whole fifth by himself, not sure how long it would take to break it down to below legal limit.

I am very concerned about these guys. What are your suggestions?They knew the rules when the woke up in the morning.

[Captain Solo]

Rambo,

Why don't you write to AMLO and file a lawsuit with Mexico's Supreme Court to stop HK from selling more alcohol to obviously drunk guys?

Nobody will hold anyone accountable if some guys get drunk in the club and die in accidents.

These guys buy their own bottles and just cannot stop drinking nonstop. Who's going to stop them?

If the bars are held accountable by laws, perhaps HK can declare some guys too drunk to leave the club, have security guys forcibly take them to the hotel, take their wallets out and make them pay for the room.

[Captain Solo]

A few weeks back you were sitting on the balcony with a bottle of Tequila Solarum with edible 24 K gold flakes. I tried one shot. It was smoother than cheap Tequilas but I cannot rationalize why it should cost 50 x more. So did you drink the whole bottle by yourself?

A bro would buy a Macallan 15 bottle so the noobs have a table to sit and play with the girls in HK, a very nice bro. It's bitter and tastes similar to Martell Cordon Bleu. I don't drink liquors and don't believe in any hypes about expensive wines and liquors. I took a Macclan 15 bottle with leftover to the car so I can give the noobs a few shots to try expensive stuff. They all liked it. If I did not take the bottle, the meseros would quickly take it.

Don Julio 70 comes in a clear cubic bottle; 80 proof, but I's a lot smoother with a light fragrance, unlike the other Tequilas with strong bites and strong Anejo aromas. HK sells it for $150 in the club, but you can buy it at duty-free stores in San Ysidro for about $45, a very good deal. Bring it into your room in Cascada to party with the chicas. They all like this smooth Don Julio 70.

A noob took his friend to HK Saturday night, was told by shifty meseros, tables in the back were sold for $320 minimum, for which they get a bottle of Done Julio 70 plus 20 ficha beers for the chicas. Prices for the drinks worked out about right. But they should not have to buy a table. Buy a few beers and they can take whatever unoccupied table in the club. Meseros always bullshit and rip off noobs. Drink that bottle down and noobs sets himself wide open for serious DUI charges on the drive home.

[KBToys]

A few weeks back you were sitting on the balcony with a bottle of Tequila Solarum with edible 24 K gold flakes. I tried one shot. It was smoother than cheap Tequilas but I cannot rationalize why it should cost 50 x more. So did you drink the whole bottle by yourself?

A bro would buy a Macallan 15 bottle so the noobs have a table to sit and play with the girls in HK, a very nice bro. It's bitter and tastes similar to Martell Cordon Bleu. I don't drink liquors and don't believe in any hypes about expensive wines and liquors. I took a Macclan 15 bottle with leftover to the car so I can give the noobs a few shots to try expensive stuff. They all liked it. If I did not take the bottle, the meseros would quickly take it.

Don Julio 70 comes in a clear cubic bottle; 80 proof, but I's a lot smoother with a light fragrance, unlike the other Tequilas with strong bites and strong Anejo aromas. HK sells it for $150 in the club, but you can buy it at duty-free stores in San Ysidro for about $45, a very good deal. Bring it into your room in Cascada to party with the chicas. They all like this smooth Don Julio 70.

A noob took his friend to HK Saturday night, was told by shifty meseros, tables in the back were sold for $320 minimum, for which they get a bottle of Done Julio 70 plus 20 ficha beers for the chicas. Prices for the drinks worked out about right. But they should not have to buy a table. Buy a few beers and they can take whatever unoccupied table in the club. Meseros always bullshit and rip off noobs. Drink that bottle down and noobs sets himself wide open for serious DUI charges on the drive home.Doesn't make sense to get trashed and plan to drive home. The rooms are so cheap in the Zona or Tijuana for that matter to crash. A whole lot cheaper than a DUI.

[Hargow20]

Last night I was walking back across the pedestrian and cop was parked on the walkways to the top. The police officer stopped me. So as soon as he did I reached for my wallet & held my money in my hands. So if you are about tot be searched you should immediately take your money ot you wallet & hold it in your hands up against the wall etc. Also hold your cell phone as well.

[Jackie888]

Currently there is major construction done above the Valentina bar in the alley. And per Mexican Zona Norte safety rules, there is almost no safety zone blocked off underneath. So some dickhead working about 5 floors up can drop his hammer and fuck over some innocent bystander walking 5 floors below. I highly recommend guys to cross the street and not walk on the side of Bar Valentina while construction is going on, generally in the daytime.

[SpeedToys]

Asked for registration, insurance. Poked thru the bags in the back, was sent on. 3 minutes?

No FMM.

Only looked at my PP photo page.

[Rambo1969]

Last night I was walking back across the pedestrian and cop was parked on the walkways to the top. The police officer stopped me. So as soon as he did I reached for my wallet & held my money in my hands. So if you are about tot be searched you should immediately take your money ot you wallet & hold it in your hands up against the wall etc. Also hold your cell phone as well.Great advice.

Did the cops harass you? Did they try to bribe you?

I keep my money and passport in a undergarment pouch. Do you advice I take that out too or is it OK to leave that where it is.

[Hargow20]

No he did not harass me. The police will usually just search you unless have something illegal.


Great advice.

Did the cops harass you? Did they try to bribe you?

I keep my money and passport in a undergarment pouch. Do you advice I take that out too or is it OK to leave that where it is.

[MemoeNasty]

Great advice.

Did the cops harass you? Did they try to bribe you?

I keep my money and passport in a undergarment pouch. Do you advice I take that out too or is it OK to leave that where it is.I've been stopped on foot by the cops so many times in Tijuana over the years I've lost count. Never tried to hide anything from them and have never had anything stolen. Once they realize I don't speak Spanish they usually send me on my way. Even if you do speak Spanish don't with them. Play the stupid tourist role. I've also noticed over the years that if you have a certain look to you your more likely to be fucked with. Unlike in the US where if you look at somebody the wrong way your deemed racist, in Tijuana they don't care. Profiling does go on in Tijuana so beware! Another good rule of thumb is not to be a dick when stopped or pulled over but don't be timid or show fear either. Moe.

[TJLee]

Sunday 7:30 pm.

[Jackie888]

I've been stopped on foot by the cops so many times in Tijuana over the years I've lost count. Never tried to hide anything from them and have never had anything stolen. Once they realize I don't speak Spanish they usually send me on my way. Even if you do speak Spanish don't with them. Play the stupid tourist role. I've also noticed over the years that if you have a certain look to you your more likely to be fucked with. Unlike in the US where if you look at somebody the wrong way your deemed racist, in Tijuana they don't care. Profiling does go on in Tijuana so beware! Another good rule of thumb is not to be a dick when stopped or pulled over but don't be timid or show fear either. Moe.Sunday I got stopped for a vehicle search at the border entry. Popped the trunk. They searched the glove compartment, then dug through my trunk, them the back seat area. Then they asked if I spoke Spanish because they want to see more stuff. Fuck that I shook my head and started to talk to him in my memorized Korean boy-band lyrics I had learned for my favorite chica who is obsessed with Korean boy-bands. Frustrated he cannot understand my made-up Korean, he waive me by.

Lesson learned. Speak Korean in Tijuana even if you need to make it up. If you are white, speak German to Mexican LEO.

[Dogers69]

I've been stopped on foot by the cops so many times in Tijuana over the years I've lost count. Never tried to hide anything from them and have never had anything stolen. Once they realize I don't speak Spanish they usually send me on my way. Even if you do speak Spanish don't with them. Play the stupid tourist role. I've also noticed over the years that if you have a certain look to you your more likely to be fucked with. Unlike in the US where if you look at somebody the wrong way your deemed racist, in Tijuana they don't care. Profiling does go on in Tijuana so beware! Another good rule of thumb is not to be a dick when stopped or pulled over but don't be timid or show fear either. Moe.My 1st time being stopped was like my 4th hour in Mexico ever in middle day so I was shocked and scared because I was already scared to be in Mexico and his 1st words were get in the van. It wasn't even stop, what are you doing in Mexico. 5 years later or so, at this point I look forward to speaking to them as it makes it more interesting. The last time I had a 10 minute conversation on legality of having a Viagra in my wallet. They don't scare me no more if they want my 50 dollars they can take it. I never have more than that anyway.

[Rambo1969]

If you get stopped & searched by Policia and they see a couple of pills on you (Viagra) will that be a problem?

How do you prove it is just Viagra.

Has anyone had problems with the cops for carrying Viagra / Cialis pills for personal consumption.

[Captain Solo]

Rambo,

ED pills are sold OTC, no need for prescriptions. They are legal to carry around in Tijuana.

I was pulled over on Coahuila with 3 wingmen for a California stop at the Revo big intersection. The 2 policias searched my wallet, found a bag with small slivers of Sildenafil. They asked me what it was. I told them generic Viagra. They had no more questions.

Polcias would have to test and prove it's illegal drugs before they can arrest you.

[Jackie888]

If you get stopped & searched by Policia and they see a couple of pills on you (Viagra) will that be a problem?

How do you prove it is just Viagra.

Has anyone had problems with the cops for carrying Viagra / Cialis pills for personal consumption.I keep my vitamins in its original labeled unopened packaging. I don't care if it contains 8 pills. If I partially use a pill, I throw the unused portion away because it is so cheap. If a cop stops me, I am speaking some Asian language and insist on using an interpreter. Well at least that is the plan.

[Captain Solo]

I was in HK last Saturday March 12. About 10 PM 2 soldiers in tactical gear, carrying automatic weapons, walked through the club to the back door. I was afraid they may have a shoot out with all that fire power and was preparing to dive down to the ground, but they did not do anything in the club, just cutting through to the alley. Looked like they knew where they were going in HK and it probably happened often.

Tuesday March 15 a wingman reported a group of 8 soldiers patrolling the alley on foot with automatic weapons, no policias were mentioned.

In the past few years, army pick up trucks were patrolling La Zona, with 4-6 soldiers and a squad auto weapon on top of the cab, pointing to the front, but they were just driving around, not doing anything, never heard of a fire fight with the army in Tijuana. They were just showing off their pick up trucks as a show of force, but soldiers patrolling on foot looks like they were seriously going after some armed and dangerous guys. But how can they shoot at or arrest any criminals without the policias with their investigations and evidences?

Looked like the army was just doing a stupid show of force, a waste of time and money, potentially exposing the public to lots of harms if a fire fight takes place. When you read about Mexico's Marinas with DEA agents arrested Ovidio de Guzman in LOS Mochis, only to face a cartel's force 10 x larger with heavier weapons, then to have AMLO ordered the Marinas to back down and release Ovidio, the whole thing smelled like a farce. Nobody is sure who's really governing Mexico.

There is this evil culture of phoniness and hypocrisy practiced at all levels of people and institutions in the Latin world. Everything is just a phony show behind big facades religions, morality and nationalism where the ruling class with no conscience but with lots of muscles, guns, connections and power can sell drugs, traffic young girls, steal, rob, rape, murder innocent, vulnerable people whenever they feel like, so they can spend their blood money in fancy restaurants, high-price vacations, fake but expensive liquors, make green rains at strip clubs.

Latin America countries, mired in deep shit with poverty, hunger and violence, should contract their countries to be governed by some sort of United Nations' organizations to protect and feed the population. It may not be too bad to hand their governments back to the colonists, blood suckers themselves but still far less greedy, corrupt, abusive and evil than local cartels and politicians.

[Captain Solo]

Wednesday midnight I was waiting in SENTRI lane behind a grey Toyota 4 Runner. The lines were slow due to shift change between 11:30 and midnight. It took me 22 minutes to clear compared to the usual 5-10.

The $Runner was inching forward to the CBP booth. The agent asked the driver 1 question, shone his flashlight into the truck, looking. He then asked the driver to step out of the truck. The guy stepped out slowly, gingerly, a short guy, looking like a Chino. Suddenly 4 to 6 CBP agents were running toward the truck, surrounding the guy. The original CBP guy pinned the driver against the door, cuffed him slowly with no resistance. 2 CBP guys shouldered the driver towards Secondary Inspection tent. The driver was walking slowly with some hesitation, not normal.

I drove to the booth, asked the CBP guy what that guy did to be arrested. He said the guy was suspected of drunk driving. They would arrest suspected drunk drivers and call in CHP to decide. He asked me if I was drinking. I told him I converted to Mormonism along with my HK fiancee just last week. He chuckled.

I never knew CBP and the Feds would bother with DUI cases, as they are misdemeanors better enforced by state laws. Federal courts are just way to complex and expensive for these little pissy misdemeanors. But the Feds do have jurisdiction on DUI if it happens on federal properties, and they usually make arrest then hand the cases off to the states for prosecution. If you are convicted with a DUI, you will lose a lot pf privileges with the government, like SENTRI or Global Entry and may be security clearances. You may also lose your jobs or may have problems getting jobs in the future.

A few airlines pilots were caught boarding their super jumbos with BAC above 0.08 grams alcohol per 100 ML of blood or 200 L of breath, ready to fly 500 passengers off to their vacations in the sky. Ground and flight crews sometimes noticed pilots and crews inebriate and alert authorities. People just cannot ride a bicycle drunk without accidents, left alone flying huge, complex airline jets flying around blind at 600 MPH. These are very serious situations with potentially dire consequences of hundred dead passengers. The guys quickly lose their pilot licenses and airlines jobs for good, also get shit on at every turn in their lives. The FAA would throw its huge FAR book at these pervs. But a few captains and first officers with major airlines are known to still hang around airport lounges, knocking down a few shots before boarding.

So if you are impaired by alcohol, drugs or meds, like I know a few of you have been, don't drive the car across the border back to the US. Let someone drive it, or just sleep it off somewhere until you completely recover.

[FlappyGilmore]

Just look at the history of most LA countries. The vast majority of the ruling class are the ancestors of Spaniards who came and fucked / diseased / killed the natives off. It's why all of the politicians and majority of rich folk physically look nothing like the commoner in most central and south American countries.

It's why the infrastructure and culture of mongering or red light districts is prevalent there and has been that way before any of us gringos started paying them a visit. Someone was keeping the lights at the brothels on outside of tourist season.


I was in HK last Saturday March 12. About 10 PM 2 soldiers in tactical gear, carrying automatic weapons, walked through the club to the back door. I was afraid they may have a shoot out with all that fire power and was preparing to dive down to the ground, but they did not do anything in the club, just cutting through to the alley. Looked like they knew where they were going in HK and it probably happened often.

Tuesday March 15 a wingman reported a group of 8 soldiers patrolling the alley on foot with automatic weapons, no policias were mentioned.

In the past few years, army pick up trucks were patrolling La Zona, with 4-6 soldiers and a squad auto weapon on top of the cab, pointing to the front, but they were just driving around, not doing anything, never heard of a fire fight with the army in Tijuana. They were just showing off their pick up trucks as a show of force, but soldiers patrolling on foot looks like they were seriously going after some armed and dangerous guys. But how can they shoot at or arrest any criminals without the policias with their investigations and evidences?.

[Captain Solo]

2 guys and 2 girls were in a taxi in Tijuana when stopped by policias. Policia found 4 open beers with the 4 passengers and demanded $600. They finally paid $150 to get off but the night was ruined.

There are no laws against passengers drinking or open containers in vehicles in Baja California or any state in Mexico that I know of. Policias always trump up stupid charges to squeeze money out of noobs, like carrying Sildenafil in public ect. When accused of stupid charges people should call their bluffs, deny the charges, insist on policias call in Policias Turistas, their sergeants or captains, or going to the policia station to see the judge. That would put an end to their bluffs. While it's not a crime to have open containers in cars, as usual just avoid giving policias any excuse to fuck with you.

Policias pulled me over a few times, smelled my breath, accused me of drunk driving, threatened me with big fine. I denied the charged, would not bribe them, refused to get in their patrol cars ect. After a few minutes they just gave up and went after other prospects. If you act weak, they will bullshit you and rob you as much as they can.

The bros in this case thought the taxi driver set them up. More likely policias usually target taxis or cars loaded with people as it increases their chance of catching gangs, criminals or getting bribes.

[Captain Solo]

Got more details from the bro about this extortion incident by Tijuana policias.

2 young guys and 2 girls were in a taxi leaving HK after 1 AM, heading to club Alebrije in Zona Rio. They wanted more beers and complained OXXO closed after midnight. Cabbie took them to a liquor store 5 blocks away, encouraged them to drink in the cab, while busy talking a lot on the phone with someone, which they could understand only a few word. Cabbie drove them around the area, taking the long way, so it looked like this cabbie set these kids up to get ripped off by his policias buddies. There are a lot of greedy, shady and ugly people in the poor third world who would abuse visitors every chance they have.

While in Tijuana or any foreign countries, limit your exposures and take low profiles to avoid giving assholes opportunities to dick with you, like vendors, beggars, bullies, gang bangers, cartels, bar bouncers, policias. Stay nice and clean, avoid anything even remotely borderline illegal. Taking UBER or LYFT would be safer than taxis, as you at least have the drivers' IDs to take any measure against them later.

When stopped by policias, try to take down their IDs and car license #s. I have cameras front and back of the car recording videos and audios, stop only at well lighted areas with people. I mentioned that to policias so they never tried to pull any shit against me.

[Bbond]

There are no laws against passengers drinking or open containers in vehicles in Baja California or any state in Mexico that I know of.This is not true, check with a local lawyer. No where in Mexico is drinking in a moving vehicle legal, even in the back seat.

[Captain Solo]

If there are laws against drinking in a moving vehicle, why was the taxi driver not charged? He was the one driving and responsible for the vehicle. Why was he not charged?

There are no laws against drinking in moving vehicles in Baja California or California, unless driver is drinking, otherwise all those limos with fridge and alcohol would all be stopped, fined and impounded.

[Captain Solo]

A very personable supervisor in HK, Augustin Mendez only worked a few days in the speak easy during the 2 years CoVid shut down since March 2020. I found him back to work in HK on Friday night March 18, standing dejectedly next to the DJ booth on the second floor. He looked aged and scared, different from a cool, easy-going gentleman before.

The article says he was driving to work in a yellow Nissan Xterra on Via Rapida. The assassin rode along on a motorbike, shot him twice through the glass. He was declared dead at the scene.

Looks like a professional hit. Don't know what he got himself into to be murdered.

https://puntonorte.info/2022/03/21/el-es-agustin-el-supervisor-del-bar-hong-kong-asesinado-ayer/

MC Chui was also back to work in HK recently.

[Aviator400]

If there are laws against drinking in a moving vehicle, why was the taxi driver not charged? He was the one driving and responsible for the vehicle. Why was he not charged?

There are no laws against drinking in moving vehicles in Baja California or California, unless driver is drinking, otherwise all those limos with fridge and alcohol would all be stopped, fined and impounded.In California, the driver can be charged if an alcoholic beverage is "accessible to the driver. " So even if the driver is not drinking, but it is accessible to the driver, it is an open container violation. I know this from an Ex-friend with Benefits that has too much personal experience with this law.

The reason the limos and party busses get away with it is because there is a partition between the driver and the passengers (including the booze).

[SomeDude321]

A very personable supervisor in HK, Augustin Mendez only worked a few days in the speak easy during the 2 years CoVid shut down since March 2020. I found him back to work in HK on Friday night March 18, standing dejectedly next to the DJ booth on the second floor. He looked aged and scared, different from a cool, easy-going gentleman before.

The article says he was driving to work in a yellow Nissan Xterra on Via Rapida. The assassin rode along on a motorbike, shot him twice through the glass. He was declared dead at the scene.

Looks like a professional hit. Don't know what he got himself into to be murdered.Crap. There's been a lot of death surrounding HK in the last six months.

[Bbond]

If there are laws against drinking in a moving vehicle, why was the taxi driver not charged? He was the one driving and responsible for the vehicle. Why was he not charged?Haha, they know who's got money and who don't.

[Captain Solo]

Looks like the taxi driver set these guys up for a bust.

Taxi drivers in Tijuana are the least trust-worthy people. They will harm you given any opportunities.

Better to book UBER or LYFT.

[SeaBeeJoe]

A very personable supervisor in HK, Augustin Mendez only worked a few days in the speak easy during the 2 years CoVid shut down since March 2020. I found him back to work in HK on Friday night March 18, standing dejectedly next to the DJ booth on the second floor. He looked aged and scared, different from a cool, easy-going gentleman before.

The article says he was driving to work in a yellow Nissan Xterra on Via Rapida. The assassin rode along on a motorbike, shot him twice through the glass. He was declared dead at the scene.

Looks like a professional hit. Don't know what he got himself into to be murdered..I knew him well, I was told by my ex mesero friend about the news of his death. I am truly sorry for his family, how evil the cartel violence is in Mexico and especially Tijuana. I will be honest, there are not any permanent happy endings in the zona.

[Captain Solo]

He has not been working a lot in HK after CoVid. He may be owing someone money and could not pay.

Al those indirect people are on call, not permanent, not full time. Meseros pay rent for their jobs so they are always welcomed to work. Chicas also have to pay rent with their ficha quota, so they can work, only fat, ugly girls are sent home.

It's sad what happened to a lot of people after CoVid.

I knew him well, I was told by my ex mesero friend about the news of his death. I am truly sorry for his family, how evil the cartel violence is in Mexico and especially Tijuana. I will be honest, there are not any permanent happy endings in the zona.


I knew him well, I was told by my ex mesero friend about the news of his death. I am truly sorry for his family, how evil the cartel violence is in Mexico and especially Tijuana. I will be honest, there are not any permanent happy endings in the zona.

[Jackie888]

A very personable supervisor in HK, Augustin Mendez only worked a few days in the speak easy during the 2 years CoVid shut down since March 2020. I found him back to work in HK on Friday night March 18, standing dejectedly next to the DJ booth on the second floor. He looked aged and scared, different from a cool, easy-going gentleman before.

The article says he was driving to work in a yellow Nissan Xterra on Via Rapida. The assassin rode along on a motorbike, shot him twice through the glass. He was declared dead at the scene.

Looks like a professional hit. Don't know what he got himself into to be murdered.

https://puntonorte.info/2022/03/21/el-es-agustin-el-supervisor-del-bar-hong-kong-asesinado-ayer/

MC Chui was also back to work in HK recently.Oh fuck. That's on Via Rapida, one of the most busy roads too, not some empty seedy bar that no one visits in the Zona Norte.

[StRobert]

I knew him well, I was told by my ex mesero friend about the news of his death. I am truly sorry for his family, how evil the cartel violence is in Mexico and especially Tijuana. I will be honest, there are not any permanent happy endings in the zona.Too much crime in Mexico and such a beautiful country. WTF is wrong with these guys? They should learn how to solve problems and conflicts without the use of violence and murder.

[Captain Solo]

HK management is saying perhaps he was a case of mistaken identity.

That's utter bullshiit. He was driving a bright yellow Nissan Xterra which is unique to him. Shooter could not make such a stupid mistake on a murder case. Assassins are usually way smarter than HK managers.

I saw him last Friday night standing against the DJ booth, looing very down and sad. Perhaps he took out loans to survive through CoVid time and could not repay in time? May be he was selling some funny shit and owed dealers money?

[Jackie888]

HK management is saying perhaps he was a case of mistaken identity.

That's utter bullshiit. He was driving a bright yellow Nissan Xterra which is unique to him. Shooter could not make such a stupid mistake on a murder case. Assassins are usually way smarter than HK managers.

I saw him last Friday night standing against the DJ booth, looing very down and sad. Perhaps he took out loans to survive through CoVid time and could not repay in time? May be he was selling some funny shit and owed dealers money?I wonder if this was a message to HK that they are paying the wrong Cartel for protection. Doubt if he owed money because debtors are usually kept alive so that they can work their ass off to meet interest payments. Dead bodies don't generate income very well. The hit was done on a freeway normally very busy. It is kind of a statement that they can reach someone regardless of witnesses.

[Captain Solo]

Augustin is a low-level guy. He's supposed to supervise the floor but only walked around the club not doing anything.

Like other indirect workers, he worked only on call, not full time, not permanent. I found him one night standing next to the front desk handling, but not counting, a stack of 200,500-peso bills about 10 inch thick.

If anyone wants to warn Hong Kong, they would have to aim at the owners' families, wives, GFs, children ect, not a low level worker like Augustin. So I tend to believe it was personal against him, not HK.

[AmorPorFavor]

Augustin is a low-level guy. He's supposed to supervise the floor but only walked around the club not doing anything.

Like other indirect workers, he worked only on call, not full time, not permanent. I found him one night standing next to the front desk handling, but not counting, a stack of 200,500-peso bills about 10 inch thick.

If anyone wants to warn Hong Kong, they would have to aim at the owners' families, wives, GFs, children ect, not a low level worker like Augustin. So I tend to believe it was personal against him, not HK.If he was handling a lot of HK dinero maybe he was stealing some and got caught.

[Captain Solo]

Amor,

I hope HK did not execute him for theft.

He had nothing to do with the cash registers. It was unusual to see him with a big stack of Mexico's pesos.

I saw him leaning on the DJ's booth the Friday night before the shoot out. He looked very down and out. I did not know what happened and did not have time to talk to him.

[Davela42]

Got more details from the bro about this extortion incident by Tijuana policias.

2 young guys and 2 girls were in a taxi leaving HK after 1 AM, heading to club Alebrije in Zona Rio. They wanted more beers and complained OXXO closed after midnight. Cabbie took them to a liquor store 5 blocks away, encouraged them to drink in the cab, while busy talking a lot on the phone with someone, which they could understand only a few word. Cabbie drove them around the area, taking the long way, so it looked like this cabbie set these kids up to get ripped off by his policias buddies. There are a lot of greedy, shady and ugly people in the poor third world who would abuse visitors every chance they have.

While in Tijuana or any foreign countries, limit your exposures and take low profiles to avoid giving assholes opportunities to dick with you, like vendors, beggars, bullies, gang bangers, cartels, bar bouncers, policias. Stay nice and clean, avoid anything even remotely borderline illegal. Taking UBER or LYFT would be safer than taxis, as you at least have the drivers' IDs to take any measure against them later.

When stopped by policias, try to take down their IDs and car license #s. I have cameras front and back of the car recording videos and audios, stop only at well lighted areas with people. I mentioned that to policias so they never tried to pull any shit against me.Do you mean Uber or Didi? I don't think Lyft operates in Tijuana.

[Phordphan]

Do you mean Uber or Didi? I don't think Lyft operates in Tijuana.They don't. Also, all OXXO and supermarkets and liquor stores must stop selling at midnight in Baja and other Mexican states, and IIRC can't resume until 10 am.

[Captain Solo]

A fun bro drove 3 others in a double date to Tijuana. On the way back, as the directions were confusing, he mistakenly drove into SENTRI lane. He thought he had only 1 prior warning, but he actually had 2 prior, so this third time they were sent to Secondary Inspection and fined $5,000. Payable on the spot of his car would get impounded. He had to pay with his credit card to get out. Impounded cars will incur additional storage and recovery costs.

People have worked with the court and get the fine reduced to $500. He should wait for the court notice and write to the court, plead innocence or poverty and try to get the fine reduced. I had traffic tickets, paid full bail amounts to County courts, contested the charges, got them dismissed and refunded.

Warnings about $5,000 fine have been posted along the SENTRI lanes for decades. His 3 passengers were also given first time warnings, recorded in CBP file for life. This is serious. They may be denied SENTRI or GLOBAL ENTRY if they apply in the future.

Attorney John M Manley in San Diego has a blog dealing with this issue:

https://johnmanley.net/is-cbp-actually-fining-5000-for-sentri-lane-violations/

Or you may want to contact Federal Defenders of San Diego, Inc. , a federally-funded legal group to defend indigents:

https://fdsdi.com/

I also had a couple warnings in SENTRI lanes in the past 7 or 8 years. I applied to renew the card in 2018 and was approved quickly. So CBP can be lenient.

Last month I lost my wallet in HK, damn, drove back in SENTRI lanes with no IDs or money whatsoever. I explained to the CBP guy at the barrier, he let me drive to the car booth. Again explained to the CBP guy at the booth. He looked up my name and waved me through quickly, no problem. I applied for card replacement, got an email from CBP saying your card is approved, go ahead and use it. The next week I still had not received the card, printed out that letter and showed it to CBP to cross back. The CBP agent said I could use Global Entry lanes at airport without the card, but for land crossing, the card is required for them to pull up records. He looked up my record and and let me through without warning.

Like other cases in Federal law enforcement, the feds would give suspects one or two warnings. Once the suspects know they are in violation of the laws but keep violating, the Feds will enforce the laws with proof of intent.

[Captain Solo]

Yep.

Any of the rideshare services.

[Captain Solo]

The bro with his friends just checked out and left hotel Ceasar about noon Monday when a kidnap and shoot out took place at a store next to the hotel.

Streets around the area were cordoned off and surrounded by policias. Multiple shots were fired. Did not hear any death or injuries or the outcome of the siege. The bar block in La Zona Norte may be the safest place in Mexico to hang out with assurance and protection by some authorities, not the dumb, corrupt, greedy policias.

Then on the way back to US the bro drove into SENTRI lane and got fined $5,000. He got a lot of scares and bad news for one day. He and his friends are fun to hang out with. A few of his dates were exceptionally beautiful girls, wanted to drink and play in the sexy and exciting ambiance of Hong Kong strip club, a few probably found their latent lesbian nature playing with girls in the foam show.

This group was also nailed for $150 open beers in the taxi just last week. They got in troubles either way, driving or walking over, and staying over night. Hope he finds ways to limit his exposures so he can continue to party with us.

[Jackie888]

In the recent past, military patrol of the zona norte included a single section of 6 national guardsman in a single truck. This weekend, I noticed that they now patrol in a section of 6 national guards in a truck and an additional section of 6 regular army in a humvee. I am unsure if this is beefed up patrol is training or a reaction to an increase in violent crimes. Policing by military do scare me because I am uncertain if these guys were trained to enforce the law. Or are they going to lay down suppressive fire when fired upon, and mow down everything in front of them.

[BlackThought]

In the recent past, military patrol of the zona norte included a single section of 6 national guardsman in a single truck. This weekend, I noticed that they now patrol in a section of 6 national guards in a truck and an additional section of 6 regular army in a humvee. I am unsure if this is beefed up patrol is training or a reaction to an increase in violent crimes. Policing by military do scare me because I am uncertain if these guys were trained to enforce the law. Or are they going to lay down suppressive fire when fired upon, and mow down everything in front of them.I think the local policías tend to be more corrupt than the military. It's normally the military that are cracking down on cartels.

[Dogers69]

In the recent past, military patrol of the zona norte included a single section of 6 national guardsman in a single truck. This weekend, I noticed that they now patrol in a section of 6 national guards in a truck and an additional section of 6 regular army in a humvee. I am unsure if this is beefed up patrol is training or a reaction to an increase in violent crimes. Policing by military do scare me because I am uncertain if these guys were trained to enforce the law. Or are they going to lay down suppressive fire when fired upon, and mow down everything in front of them.They gonna clear the block both sides of the street. Like Russia is doing now and USA did in Iraq. Its a war.

[Jackie888]

The bro with his friends just checked out and left hotel Ceasar about noon Monday when a kidnap and shoot out took place at a store next to the hotel.

Streets around the area were cordoned off and surrounded by policias. Multiple shots were fired. Did not hear any death or injuries or the outcome of the siege. The bar block in La Zona Norte may be the safest place in Mexico to hang out with assurance and protection by some authorities, not the dumb, corrupt, greedy policias.

Then on the way back to US the bro drove into SENTRI lane and got fined $5,000. He got a lot of scares and bad news for one day. He and his friends are fun to hang out with. A few of his dates were exceptionally beautiful girls, wanted to drink and play in the sexy and exciting ambiance of Hong Kong strip club, a few probably found their latent lesbian nature playing with girls in the foam show..Just last week, US State Department raised alert status of Tijuana to include Kidnapping.

[Captain Solo]

A few tough guys keep showing off blings and money in the bar. They may be good targets. Cartels are evil and well-armed. They even kidnapped, murdered US government employees and agents.

The old, ugly wives probably bought big life insurance policies for guys and encouraged them to go to Tijuana more often.

When called up for ransoms, the ugly wives would piss the kidnappers off just so they will give tough guys extra doses of torture and slow, painful deaths.

Just a possible scenario guys should be looking out for. Just operate in stealth mode like special Ops guys. Don't tell anyone where, when, how and what you do and be ready to hug mother Earth at the first sound of bullets cracking.

[Lost99]

Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.

[Dcrist0527]

Great questions. A little perspective on my answers. I probably take too many risks. I wouldn't recommend my approach. But I'll also say I never had any serious issues. I'm always alone. And I've walked in areas I shouldn't have gone in the wee hours of the morning. My best advice is to trust your gut, always remain aware of all of your surroundings. And do not be out on the streets if you are drunk.

1. Obviously, depends on where you are going or what you want. I'll tell you that if I'm planning a big night (by my standards) I limit myself to $700. And when I have that much cash, I will usually take a taxi instead of walking. I know you aren't familiar with the area. But I usually stay about a mile away from the bars. I often walk there but the more cash I carry, the more likely I'm taking a cab. That said, you can have a very good night in the bars for $200.

2. Especially if you don't know the area, stick with daylight hours. If you are staying in Centro or the zona, Avenida Revolucion is a popular area at night with some restaurants, civie bars and I would say it is safe at night. At least between 2nd and 8th street. There are other areas of city that are reasonably safe too. But if you are in the zona at night, stay in the immediate block of the bars and even then, stay alert.

3. ATMs are a hot topic. And I don't want to steer you wrong. I'm not certain on the network. But I would strongly encourage you to use the ATM inside Cascadas. If you use the ATMs outside near Adelitas or even in the alley, be prepared for your card to be skimmed and cloned. I speak from experience. There are numerous banks along Constitucion that are safe.

4. 6 days is a lot. Granted, it's your first time so I wouldn't advise a 2-day trip. But 6 days is a lot. Tijuana isn't as bad as some make it seem but it is hardly a tourist destination! Plenty to do in San Diego, if that is an option for you.

5. Not really. I think whatever hotel you stay at, you'll bump into fellow mongers. If you have a membership on this site, I'd recommend hitting up some seniors. That would help both the experience and your safety.


Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.

[John Clayton]

Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.I am in my mid 70's. I've been to Tijuana many times, most recently in February. I've never felt any danger walking from the Ticuan to Coahuila, or in going to an ATM after dark. Cirrus network is definitely okay. I'm not much into the strip clubs or bars. I've never stayed more than two days in a row -- I think I would get bored. Bookstores, haircut, trip to the beach, Telefónica Gastro Park, dinner at Misióand 19 -- I'm not much of a city person.

[Captain Solo]

Warren,

Don't worry. Old. Shriveled Gloria's girls will protect you in Tijuana, hehe. Just kidding.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

I usually carry $200-400 cash in my regular wallet with all debit / credit cards for 22 years without problem. But in March, I took out the wallet to pay for HK girls' fichas, and within 1 hour, could not find it again. HK did not find it. They said someone stole it. You should keep cash in hotel's safe and take out small sums for daily use.

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

I would avoid walking from Revo to Coahuila any time after dark, unless you are with wingmen. There are a lot of hungry, angry, crazy people in Tijuana. They will rob you if they have a chance. A few bros have been choke held near the bar block. Many more were probably not reported. UBER costs only $2-3 from Ticuan to Hong Kong, not worth risking robberies or injuries, especially after you have been drinking.

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

ATMs with Cirrus Network are in many places, but my wingmen and I have had our cards hacked in Hong Kong, hotel Cascada, machines on the streets, machines in markets and convenient stores every time we use them. You may want to withdraw money inside a major bank, like HSBC, with a branch on Revo, or carry traveller checks and cash them at the banks.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

Depending on how much and what activities you want to do. I know a few guys from out of state who stayed a week, did not get bored. You can spend time to check out various bars to get to know their talents and entertainment. You can check out Plaza Santa Cecilia with outdoors entertainment on weekends, tourist traps on Revo, retail stores on Constitucion, normal life outside La Zona Roja like Zona Rio's shopping malls, Cathedral Plaza, fresh sea food at Mariscos El Choforo or Titos, believe me Mexican sea food is fresh and delicious, go for $13 AYCE Brazil or Korean grills, invite hot girls out to Tijuana Playa, Rosarito, Ensenada.

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

I met many bros from out of state and out of the US, always enjoy their companies. Announced your it in close to the date, will meet if possible. Other bros in this site might also be in town. Hit them up. While hanging out with the bros is fun, there are many nice, hot, sweet young girls in HK you can drink with. The younger ones usually speak enough English to be fun and sweet companies. You can ask meseros to bring you the types of girls you like and tip them $ or 2. Most HK meseros are good, honest, hard-working people due to their very strict discipline. Other bars are shady.

Ask hot girls for their tel, FBs or Instagrams in case you want to invite them to vacations in exotic places like Cancun, Tulum, Mexico City, Acapulco, or a tour of Canada in the future. A few bros are taking HK girls on vacations without paying per diem, just flights, hotels, food, bars, entertainment ect. Believe me, good girls go to heaven, but hot girls go everywhere.

You can also party with guys in the club. Treat this trip as an exploratory venture. Test out and refine your skills as an ambassador of the world. Smiles and fun, friendly gestures will make you good friends everywhere. Local Mexican guys have been lots of fun with me, pouring me shots from their expensive bottles, muchas gracias amigos. It's good to be the Captain hehe. I also met with Mexican guys from other states, fun, good, solid, successful people, exchanging our views on girls and on life. Life is sweet. It's fun to sit at the bar with your friends, drinking, commenting on the quality of putas' boob jobs and butt jobs in exchange for dirty looks hehe. I treat the bros like close and trusted members of a honorable brotherhood, always goes well.

Leave you passport and valuables in the safe. Carry a passport copy and just enough cash for the day. You will be safe and have lots of fun. Nothing happened to me in Tijuana in 22 years until I lost my wallet in HK last month, but no attempt was made to withdraw cash from the cards, so it probably slipped out of my jacket, some amateurs found it and kept it.

Take care, relax and have fun.

Thanks in advance.

[Dogers69]

Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.Never carry large amounts unto maxixe. There's dudes on the news in Tijuana all the time losing thousands to the police. These were not even mongers. Your biggest vulnerability to policia robbery will be coming through the border. Not the border patrol, but once you start getting in taxis or drive in. So walk in with under $300, then go to a ATM on calle revolucion. Just get a couple hundred at a time because the walk to hk, from revolucion, there's also chance of police stopping you, and going through your wallet, patting you down. You can also get robbed anyplace in Tijuana particularly the walk from revolucion to Hong Kong. The robbery won't be a stick up dude in a ski mask. It will be people sucker punching you to knock you to the ground or chokehold. I was choked out in front of 30 people and the criminals had no worries. In fact when I woke up, bleeding out from my head, one of their goons who didn't rob me, came up to me to warn me that if I speak to the cops he will have me killed. This was like 300 feet from Hong Kong. Maybe 150 feet from Gloria bar. So keep in mind when in Tijuana, you can get robbed any moment by anyone.

[Socker]

Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.1. What you're comfortable with. I do not know of a reason why anyone would want to carry $700 around but I wouldn't. Change your money to pesos as you generally get better deals.

2. If you're big and strong don't think about it. If you're not maybe avoid dark empty streets at night and very early mornings before the commuters are out. If possible do not dress like a tourist, I / e, khaki pants, touristy shorts at night and of course no bling.

3. I would use the Schwab Card as they pay the exorbitant Tijuana banks fees. No ATM cost w Schwab Card.

4. If it's me w plenty of days there I would stay where there's a pool. I stayed at the Marriott Tijuana and they are chic friendly w a nice pool. It's a few miles to the zona but cabs are cheap but less English spoken in that area as opposed to the Ticuan Hotel. The area around the Ticuan is English friendly, fun and easy walk to the Zona and the HKC. There is more to do if you also rent a car and go to the wine country and further down Ensenada. The beach there looks nice too. This is a beautiful drive. Maybe go in June for better weather.

5. I believe if you want to BS w other guys they'll be in the HKC and Zona in general. Good Luck.

[Phordphan]

Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.1. Carry maybe $200 in pesos and small US bills. Use ATMs when needed, keep extra money, etc. , in hotel safe.

2. Just about anywhere on Revolucion will be safe any time. For a newb I'd avoid walking along in the Zona Norte section of Constitucion and Ninos Heroes after 2 am. I wouldn't go north of Primera on Revolucion unless you're headed to the gay bar El Premier.

3. Yes, Cirrus will be fine.

4. I can't imagine a week of constant Zona Norte brothel exposure. You might love it, I'd get bored out of my tree after a couple days.

5. Walk up to any gringo you see in any of the bars and strike up a conversation. That's the easiest way.

[Lost99]

Your biggest vulnerability to policia robbery will be coming through the border. Not the border patrol, but once you start getting in taxis or drive in. So walk in with under $300, then go to a ATM on calle revolucion. Just get a couple hundred at a time because the walk to hk, from revolucion, there's also chance of police stopping you, and going through your wallet, patting you down. ... you can get robbed any moment by anyone.I know the police are corrupt there (Dealt with that in Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia etc.) but how can the police Rob me or coax a bribe out of me if I'm clean, not carrying anything illegal and done nothing wrong? Can they detain foreigners for no reason whatsoever?

In 3rd world Asian countries the Police can only hassle you if you did something wrong (even jaywalk or not carrying proper ID as a foreigner) and try to coax maybe a $20 bribe to 'speed up' the process. However if you stand pat you can pay with nothing except your wasted time. What is the typical Police bribe in Tijuana for convenience if they try hassle you for no reason?

[Phordphan]

I know the police are corrupt there (Dealt with that in Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia etc.) but how can the police Rob me or coax a bribe out of me if I'm clean, not carrying anything illegal and done nothing wrong? Can they detain foreigners for no reason whatsoever?

In 3rd world Asian countries the Police can only hassle you if you did something wrong (even jaywalk or not carrying proper ID as a foreigner) and try to coax maybe a $20 bribe to 'speed up' the process. However if you stand pat you can pay with nothing except your wasted time. What is the typical Police bribe in Tijuana for convenience if they try hassle you for no reason?The Tijuana police can probably give the Thai boys in brown lessons. There is too much to tell in a single post, so spend some time RTFF-ing to find out more.

The cops don't need probably cause, at least as how it's defined in the States, to stop you. There are myriad reports of being stopped when DWG or WWG (driving while gringo or walking while gringo). They will do their very best to intimidate you. They will make up shit that you did, and try to intimidate you into caving and paying. They will search your person. They may demand you take off your shoes and pat down your socks. Yes, I have personal experience. They will tell you that you blew a stop sign, or that they think you have drugs on you, or that you have Viagra, or that you have porn on your phone.

When stopped it is imperative that you keep your cool. Also, take your money and hold it in your hand. That indicates somebody who has been around this Bush a few times. They have no right to handle your money. If you are not fluent in Spanish, act like you don't understand and only speak English. That sometimes puts them a bit on the defensive.

My philosophy is that I only carry pesos, and a few USD. If you must give a mordida, usually 200 pesos will suffice, especially if you've done nothing wrong. If you stand your ground and refuse to cooperate they will often leave you alone. But you have to decide whether or not your time is worth $10 dollars, or not. Cops would much rather shake down a gringo who has a pocketful of Benjamins than one with a pocketful of 100 and 200 peso notes. So, pretend like your dollars are worthless and uses pesos. It's hard for a noob, but it usually is beneficial. You don't use dollars in Thailand or Cambodia, you shouldn't use them in Mexico. I'll probably get flamed for that.

I was shaken down, years ago, when I didn't fully understand the process, for $20. Somewhat more recently I paid 200 p due to a semi-illegal left turn in Mexicali, 200 p to cut short the process and avoid an alcoholmetro on Agua Caliente, 0 p on a late night traffic stop, and 500 p (didn't have anything smaller) when pulling out of a motel one night.

[RikyMichaels7]

Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.Always make sure that the waiters give you the correct change. Not really a problem in the bars like HK, Chicago or Adelitas. It has always been a major problem for me in Bar Tropical. And, if you are planning to go to Bar Tropical, do not order any drink other than a beer. And do not allow them to open your beer until they do it in front of you. I have been the victim of the date drug (a rufee) on two different occasions. Both times I was literally knocked out for about 15 hours with money stolen from me. Don't walk around like the typical tourist. Act like you live there and exude confidence in your gait and demeanor.

[Jackie888]

Always make sure that the waiters give you the correct change. Not really a problem in the bars like HK, Chicago or Adelitas. It has always been a major problem for me in Bar Tropical. And, if you are planning to go to Bar Tropical, do not order any drink other than a beer. And do not allow them to open your beer until they do it in front of you. I have been the victim of the date drug (a rufee) on two different occasions. Both times I was literally knocked out for about 15 hours with money stolen from me. Don't walk around like the typical tourist. Act like you live there and exude confidence in your gait and demeanor.And if any waiter tells you he has to go get change for your $20, the cocksucker is lying and thinks that you are a moron and dumber than shit, because every single waiter has a giant wad of $1 bill in his pocket. If any waiter tells you he has to go get change, tell the fucker to go get the change and you will give him your $20 when he comes back.

Now if you fuck it up and forget because some chica has her tits in your face, and the cocksucker has ran off with your change, look at the ficha ticket that he gave the chica for her drink. It has his cock sucking employee number on it. Take the number to the manager and ask the manager why he is conspiring with the waiter to rip you off.

[KBToys]

Always make sure that the waiters give you the correct change. Not really a problem in the bars like HK, Chicago or Adelitas. It has always been a major problem for me in Bar Tropical. And, if you are planning to go to Bar Tropical, do not order any drink other than a beer. And do not allow them to open your beer until they do it in front of you. I have been the victim of the date drug (a rufee) on two different occasions. Both times I was literally knocked out for about 15 hours with money stolen from me. Don't walk around like the typical tourist. Act like you live there and exude confidence in your gait and demeanor.Tropical is also owned by HK. Not sure how you got drugged unless it was a chica that slipped you something. Maybe flashing a lot of cash? It is a rather boring club, but can find some hot chicas every once in a while.

[Jackie888]

Sunday Bust Day again yesterday. Just set foot in Tijuana when I saw Army and NG squads actually busting dealers without cops. I guess they can do that independently down in Tijuana. I walk up to the alley and three cop cars were pinning three dealers around Bar Valentina. One of the dealers was faster than shit and ran right into Cascadas who every one knows is a labyrinth. I'm guessing he was a former employee. I saw the same exact dude out ran two cops about 4 weeks ago and disappeared up Cascadas. The Rams should sign the dude. An hour later, I see another major bust by multiple cop cars a couple of blocks East of HK on Coahuila Blvd. Sunday is like round-them-up day for the Zona Norte.

[Dogers69]

I know the police are corrupt there (Dealt with that in Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia etc.) but how can the police Rob me or coax a bribe out of me if I'm clean, not carrying anything illegal and done nothing wrong? Can they detain foreigners for no reason whatsoever?

In 3rd world Asian countries the Police can only hassle you if you did something wrong (even jaywalk or not carrying proper ID as a foreigner) and try to coax maybe a $20 bribe to 'speed up' the process. However if you stand pat you can pay with nothing except your wasted time. What is the typical Police bribe in Tijuana for convenience if they try hassle you for no reason?Policia in Mexico are not same occupation as police in USA. Mexico policia is equivalent to a bar security doorman. They can do whatever they want. People are complaining in beach communities now about it as its spread. In Tijuana its normal for police to empty your wallet, even at times I've seen on the news "the cop said sorry my kids need x mass presents go back to USA now don't come back here's 20 dollars of your 10 k for some gas money".

[RikyMichaels7]

Tropical is also owned by HK. Not sure how you got drugged unless it was a chica that slipped you something. Maybe flashing a lot of cash? It is a rather boring club, but can find some hot chicas every once in a while.I dated the infamous Yamilet from Tropical. It very well could have been her on one occasion but the other time she wasn't there. The first time it happened, I remember getting hauled into a taxi by several waiters and Yamilet at around 10 pm. Woke up the next afternoon at 4 pm in her apartment next to her. She told me that the waiters there have rufeed several dudes. Especially those that are drunk or treat the women like crap and then rifle through their pants to steal money.

[Phordphan]

Policia in Mexico are not same occupation as police in USA. Mexico policia is equivalent to a bar security doorman. They can do whatever they want. People are complaining in beach communities now about it as its spread. In Tijuana its normal for police to empty your wallet, even at times I've seen on the news "the cop said sorry my kids need x mass presents go back to USA now don't come back here's 20 dollars of your 10 k for some gas money".The cops only "empty your wallet" if you let them. And I know of nobody who has had $10,000 taken from them. Nowhere even close to that amount. I know of nobody who is foolish enough to walk around the ZN with anywhere approaching that kind of money.

[Captain Solo]

The bros should write many letters complaining about INM's shakedowns at the border and policias abusing, shaking down tourists. Also contact Mexico's consulate in San Diego and the press, make a big stink about these corrupt government employees.

File official complaints against specific individuals with details. Go to Sindicatura in Zona Rio near hotel Pueblo Amigo to press charges.

Don't let the stupid monkeys bully and take advantage of you:

Mayor Arturo González Cruz.

Palacio Municipal.

De La Independencia No. 1350, Zona Urbana Rio Tijuana, 22320 Tijuana, be. See. , Mexico.

Polcia Chief Rafael Vázquez Hernández.

Calle uno norte why uno poniente s / and City. Industrial New Tijuana.

https://policia.tijuana.gob.mx/contacto.aspx

SSPCM.

Secretary of Security and Municipal Citizen Protection.

Blvd Cuauhtémoc Sur why Río Suchiate #2141 Colonia Marron.

Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico.

[Captain Solo]

He's the chief city attorney responsible to investigate all government employees' conducts. Complain to him via email or letter with with specifics and details.

Lic. Alfonso Rafael Leyva Perez.

Email: rafael.leyva@sindicatura.gob.mx.

Blvd. Independencia 1350, Zona Urbana.

Rio Tijuana, 22320 Tijuana, be. See.

http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/#/ default.

Quejas.spm@sindicaturatijuana.gob.mx

[Captain Solo]

Lic. Alfonso Rafael Leyva Perez.

Email: * rafael.leyva@sindicatura.gob.mx.

Blvd. Independencia 1350, Zona Urbana.

Rio Tijuana, 22320 Tijuana, b. c.

Dear Sr. Perez,

Too often and too many times my friends, visitors and I have been stopped*by Municipal Policias, wrongfully*accused of violations, threatened and demanded bribes when we never violated any laws.

Specifically on Sunday April 3 at about midnight, I was stopped by 2 policias in their patrol car (I have #)* on Ave Constitucion near the border, harassed, threatened, taken to the policia*station, shaken down and robbed of all my money by 2 policias.

My friends and other*visitors have been threatened and robbed by policias*many times in the last few months. * There must be many more unreported incidents. ** It looks obvious that Tijuan's policias are not preventing or prosecution*criminals but are spending all their time on the job shaking down visitors.

There have been many complaints that make Tijuana famous with*corrupt policias and rampant crimes. I wish to make sure policias pursue criminals*and not abusing*visitors. *.

Estimado Sr. Pérez,

Con demasiada frecuencia, mis amigos, visitantes y yo hemos sido detenidos por la policía municipal, acusados injustamente de violaciones, amenazadosy exigidos sobornos cuando nunca violamos ninguna ley.

Específicamente el domingo 3 de abril a eso de la medianoche, fui detenido por 2 policías en su patrulla (tengo #) en la Avenida Constitucin cerca de la frontera, hostigados, amenazados, llevados a la estación de policía, golpeados y robados todo mi dinero por 2 policías. Mis amigos y otros visitantes han sido asaltados por policías muchas veces en los últimos meses. Debe haber muchos más incidentes no denunciados.

Parece obvio que los policías de Tijuana no están previniendo ni enjuiciando a los delincuentes, sino que pasan todo su tiempo en el trabajo sacudiendo a los visitantes.

Ha habido muchas denuncias que hacen famoso a Tijuana con policías corruptos y crímenes desenfrenados. Deseo asegurarme de que las policías persigan a los delincuentes y no abusen de los visitantes.

[Captain Solo]

Lost his career for kissing and groping his sister-in-law. Gen. Cooley should have moved the Air Force Research Lab to Tijuana to really live his life and avoid this kinds of troubles.

Now you can guess what the thousands engineers and scientists in AFRL do all day.

https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/just-in-verdict-announced-in-court-martial-of-ex-afrl-commander/MR46PDESSBB57PJKZQWN5ZET3M/

Verdict announced in court-martial of ex-AFRL commander.

Maj. Gen. William T. Cooley, ex-commander of the Air Force Research Laboratory, delivers remarks during the McCook Field Centennial ceremony in Dayton on Oct. 6, 2017. (USA Air Force photo by Wesley Farnsworth).

By Thomas Gnau April 23,2022.

Verdict comes in sixth day of trial over abusive sexual contact charge.

A military judge found Air Force Maj. Gen. William Cooley guilty of one charge of abusive sexual contact on the sixth day of an historic court-martial at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

Air Force Judge Col. Christina Jimenez deliberated for some five hours Friday before recessing for the day. The verdict was pronounced as soon as court opened Saturday morning.

The charge had three specifications involving how the two-star general was reported to have touched the complainant in the case — forcing his tongue in her mouth, forcing her hand to his genitals and pushing his hand between her legs and cupping her breast, according to an Air Force charge sheet.

The judge found Cooley guilty of the first specification and not guilty of the latter two.

A former commander of the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL), Cooley was charged with abusive sexual contact in an encounter with his sister-in-law inside a Jeep when she gave him a ride after a family backyard barbecue in a New Mexico off-duty incident nearly four years ago.

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The victim in the case, the wife of Cooley's brother, is a civilian woman who is not a Department of Defense employee. Cooley's brother works for the Air Force in New Mexico as a civilian employee.

Cooley had faced loss of rank, pay and benefits and up to 21 months of confinement. And he may have to register as a sexual offender.

Now after Saturday's verdict, in terms of confinement, the maximum possible sentence is seven years per charge. An Air Force spokeswoman said Saturday that Cooley does not face loss of rank. It was not immediately clear Saturday what impact the conviction will have on Cooley's career.

This is the first time a court-martial of an Air Force general reached trial.

"Today marks the first time an Air Force general officer has been held responsible for his heinous actions," the victim in the case said in a statement from her personal attorney, Ryan Guilds.

"Sometimes family members are the abusers, abusers who count on silence in order to wield their extensive power."

[SeaBeeJoe]

Lost his career for kissing and groping his sister-in-law. Gen. Cooley should have moved the Air Force Research Lab to Tijuana to really live his life and avoid this kinds of troubles.Captain,

I remember when I was in the Navy, there was this Sailor at Court Martial for apparently raping 2 girls at a party, he was facing 30 years to life if found guilty of these crimes. The verdict luckily was in his favor as they discovered it was all consensual and all three were drunk. The case was dismissed. It is shit like this and that first time felony in Texas for Solicitation that drives me to only monger in foreign countries where it is legal like Mexico. American is just to risky to even try this. I did visit a massage parlor back in the day in Eastern Washington, I had a nice time with a young sexy white girl, as she was a good fuck. Most of the US providers have been duds, and don't get me started on the strip clubs in America! We got to face it, Tijuana and Mexico is a pretty good deal for a mongers, sure beats a felony conviction.

[Captain Solo]

CB Joe.

This guy Cooley is a beast, making advances on his own sister in law, forcing kisses on her, squeezing her boobs, groping her crotch under the panties. He lost his honor, career, family and friends for that stupid, ugly, sexual power play and he deserves it. I admire his sister in law for her courage to prosecute. We cannot condone that kind of sexual abuses, especially within their own families. Damn I was disgusted that a US general would do that kind of stupid, nasty shit.

The sailor you mentioned was damn lucky he got off. US women are extremely ugly, stupid, shifty in personal relationships. One minute they want to fuck your brains out, the next day if they feel slighted, they would take their stinky pussies to LE and scream rape. That actually happened a few times decades ago when I was in undergrad. Girls cried rape the day after and got guys in deep shit legal problems, ruining their education and future.

The young generation in US is now scared shitless dating women. Very few would go out on dates, engaging or marrying. There is nothing sacred anymore, only beasts clawing each other to bloody deaths to gratify their power hunger and blood lust. These ugly, evil women deserve their miseries.

[ScatManDoo]

American is just to risky to even try this.Congratulations.

[TJLee]

Lots of army guys searching guys on the streets lately. Why don't they just bring a dog?

[Captain Solo]

This is such a good idea.

HK should employ a dog to go around and sniff bar girls' pussies in the club. Once he finds a fishy or rotten pussy he's trained to sit on her lap and block off all contacts until she goes to the locker room to clean up.

Sure helps prevent a few sudden heart attacks in the room when the stinky pussies blow up!

[TJLee]

Yesterday the police checked health cards on many street girls in the alley and took some away.

[Jackie888]

Zona police is using a new strategy, specifically to deter crimes instead of arresting perps. They now turn on their police siren lights (but in silent mode) and slowly slowly slowly cruise around the zona norte. Interesting since they do a switch-a-roo and like to do their busting on Busting-Sundays.

[Captain Solo]

These policia perverts are cruising slowly to look up street girls' skirt, drooling of eating those wet pussies.

[Hargow20]

It is nothing new. The police drive around with their red and blue lights all the time.


Zona police is using a new strategy, specifically to deter crimes instead of arresting perps. They now turn on their police siren lights (but in silent mode) and slowly slowly slowly cruise around the zona norte. Interesting since they do a switch-a-roo and like to do their busting on Busting-Sundays.

[Rambo1969]

In this video this guy went to Tijuana jail for failing to pay extra $5 for meal and the cops kept his phone, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2jOI4B1TfM

Scary. Do you guys believe it?

He says go in groups to avoid it. But I generally go alone so I find this particularly scary.

Anyone been taken away by the Tijuana cops?

[Dogers69]

In this video this guy went to Tijuana jail for failing to pay extra $5 for meal and the cops kept his phone, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2jOI4B1TfM

Scary. Do you guys believe it?

He says go in groups to avoid it. But I generally go alone so I find this particularly scary.

Anyone been taken away by the Tijuana cops?This is a 100% true. Especially non Latina looking guys. The restaurants and bars have close association with speed dial to Mexican police. Basically, the bars or restaurant give the green light to the cop to rob you. The cops will show up in under 1 minute. . In this case sounds like the cops got his $900 phone. The cops probably wanted money before jail that he didn't pay to avoid jail. 2 years ago, on calle revolucion Tijuana, a friend was getting arrested for being white, out eating alone, and needing to either use his credit card or the ATM next door. This bar could have let him use the ATM, but nooo. Having him arrested was the choice. The restaurants may feel obligated to meet a quota for gringos to be sacrificed to the policia. In USA that would lead to lawsuits, bad press, etc, customer not returning, racism accusations. In this particular case, the gringos friend saw the police at the restaurant about to arrest him, as this was all on live stream. And the friend ran to the restaurant to pay the cop cash. The cop had to unfortunately go home empty handed.

[Captain Solo]

First of all there is no mariscos restaurant across from Hong Kong. The Sushi One guy closed down a year before CoVid.

This guy does not know Tijuana police procedures. This matter is civil, no the criminal. He said he offered to pay the extra $5 and did not give reasons and details why policías still arrested him. It made no sense. If the food guy did not take the money, policia had to let him go. If the matter was still not resolved, both parties would go to policía station to see a judge to adjudicate on the spot.

He never explained who, how, why put him in jail. It takes a judge's order for policía to jail someone. His account is just bullshit.

I got stop driving home alone after midnight on Madero with a bullshit to charge. Policía threatened to jail me, wanted DC me to get in his car. I denied the charges and refused to get in his car, told him to call his sergeant or his lieutenant in. I was also calling 066 for emergency. He could not bluff me so just laughed and let me go.

Just one example but don't let anyone trample over you.

[Travv]

"The mayor of the Mexican city of Cuernavaca was proudly inaugurating a footbridge over a scenic stream Tuesday when the bridge collapsed, sending him and about two dozen other people plunging into a gully.

Local officials, including city council members, fell about 10 feet (3 meters) onto rocks and boulders in the streambed.

The head of the state civil defense office, Enrique Clemente, told the Milenio television station that about eight people were injured, many with broken bones. The mayor was not listed as among those seriously hurt.

The crush of officials and journalists on the bridge during the inauguration may have exceeded its planned capacity. . . ".

If visiting Tijuana and walking across the pedestrian bridge, you might want to take another route unless you like impromptu flying lesssons!

[Jackie888]

In this video this guy went to Tijuana jail for failing to pay extra $5 for meal and the cops kept his phone, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2jOI4B1TfM

Scary. Do you guys believe it?

He says go in groups to avoid it. But I generally go alone so I find this particularly scary.

Anyone been taken away by the Tijuana cops?The way I see it is that this dude neglected to look at the price before he ate so he got pissed that it went up. He ate, he refused to pay. Then he ran off. It's equivalent to theft and run. The police took him back to the restaurant to clear things up. It did not so they tossed him in jail. And he got out early instead of getting pulled in front of a judge for a hearing because he paid with his phone. While he looked Mexican, all doubt was removed when they looked at his ID and saw him as a brown Gringo with deep pockets.

Lesson learned. Don't fucking eat the food unless you agree with the pricing. Prices are either in the menu or on the wall. If you are caught stealing, you are going to have to pay someone off especially when you are rich enough to sport a $900 phone.

[Hargow20]

Always verify the price upfront when you to a restaurant. Several years I went to this on place in Puerto Nuevo. They waiter said it was $23 for the lobster thermidor. But when I got the bill it said $35. They then claimed that the price was higher because it was the bigger lobster. I was by myself so not much I could do.


The way I see it is that this dude neglected to look at the price before he ate so he got pissed that it went up. He ate, he refused to pay. Then he ran off. It's equivalent to theft and run. The police took him back to the restaurant to clear things up. It did not so they tossed him in jail. And he got out early instead of getting pulled in front of a judge for a hearing because he paid with his phone. While he looked Mexican, all doubt was removed when they looked at his ID and saw him as a brown Gringo with deep pockets.

Lesson learned. Don't fucking eat the food unless you agree with the pricing. Prices are either in the menu or on the wall. If you are caught stealing, you are going to have to pay someone off especially when you are rich enough to sport a $900 phone.

[AmorPorFavor]

First of all there is no mariscos restaurant across from Hong Kong. The Sushi One guy closed down a year before CoVid.

This guy does not know Tijuana police procedures. This matter is civil, no the criminal. He said he offered to pay the extra $5 and did not give reasons and details why policas still arrested him. It made no sense. If the food guy did not take the money, policia had to let him go. If the matter was still not resolved, both parties would go to polica station to see a judge to adjudicate on the spot.

He never explained who, how, why put him in jail. It takes a judge's order for polica to jail someone. His account is just bullshit.

I got stop driving home alone after midnight on Madero with a bullshit to charge. Polica threatened to jail me, wanted DC me to get in his car. I denied the charges and refused to get in his car, told him to call his sergeant or his lieutenant in. I was also calling 066 for emergency. He could not bluff me so just laughed and let me go.

Just one example but don't let anyone trample over you.I though you could call 911 for emergencies in Tijuana. What is 066 for?

[Captain Solo]

066 is emergency for Mexico.

[Dogers69]

"The mayor of the Mexican city of Cuernavaca was proudly inaugurating a footbridge over a scenic stream Tuesday when the bridge collapsed, sending him and about two dozen other people plunging into a gully.

Local officials, including city council members, fell about 10 feet (3 meters) onto rocks and boulders in the streambed.

The head of the state civil defense office, Enrique Clemente, told the Milenio television station that about eight people were injured, many with broken bones. The mayor was not listed as among those seriously hurt.

The crush of officials and journalists on the bridge during the inauguration may have exceeded its planned capacity. . . ".

If visiting Tijuana and walking across the pedestrian bridge, you might want to take another route unless you like impromptu flying lesssons!Those pedestrian bridges must get built by the college interns to save money. They had one in ft Lauderdale, maybe 5 years ago collapsed 1st day I think, killing a few people if I remember right. It was going over a major highway. Its amazing they can fly so many planes around the country safely but a pedestrian bridge is too complex to be safe.

[Phordphan]

I though you could call 911 for emergencies in Tijuana. What is 066 for?Baja changed from 066 to 911 in January of 2017.

[Jackie888]

Saw a shit load of military on patrol last night (Saturday). A shit load. Talked to a mother hen chica. And she told me yeah, she noticed it too and it is probably due to the big increase in violence lately. National guards knows they're in a civilian area so they seemed pretty mellow. But I don't think Mexican soldiers knew because they loaded their SAWs with full belts as they went through the alley. Fuck.

[TJLee]

Yes there're a lot of soldiers everywhere today also. Many trucks and on foot in group. Total about 33. I feel safe.

[Dogers69]

Saw a shit load of military on patrol last night (Saturday). A shit load. Talked to a mother hen chica. And she told me yeah, she noticed it too and it is probably due to the big increase in violence lately. National guards knows they're in a civilian area so they seemed pretty mellow. But I don't think Mexican soldiers knew because they loaded their SAWs with full belts as they went through the alley. Fuck.I am no expert on mexixo but mexixo is definitely amidst a civil war right now. Theres so many billions up for grabs. Mexixo is 1 of the top tourist destinations in the world, a growing economy. So much of what we see in the alley, is akin to the north Korea south Korea competitive military parades, and long range missile showoff. Basically each group in mexixo wants to show their face, show they are in charge. And this is just between the different government agencies, state and federal, city, . Doesn't even begin to get into the "other" groups who are at war with the government and each other. I get as far away from the guns as possible because I never know if one can slip up, or maybe he's in a bad mood and doesn't like gringos.

[Captain Solo]

Tuesday and Wednesday last week in the day time, groups of 6 to 12 heavily armed Guardia Nacional soldiers and policia in tactical gears, were staging at the corner of Coahuila and Revo and the East end of the alley, They were armed to the teeth with SAWs and automatic rifles, looked tense and jumpy, preparing to do battle. After a couple hours they boarded their humvees, pick up trucks and a camion truck, driving around the bar block. Not sure what enemies they expected to engage with their massive fire power besides the few street dealers, street girls and bar girls. Street dealers were hanging around mumbling Cuanto? In the presence of policias and soldiers. If they get into a shooting fight quite a few bystanders would potentially be in harms way.

Meanwhile I saw only 1 paddy wagon cuffing a guy on Revo and a policia tourista patrol car in the tourist area. First time I saw 12 soldiers standing on a full sized camion with a SAW as it circled the bar block along with a couple humvees and pick up trucks. They were just driving around, not searching. Don't understand their strategy to deploy soldiers to drive around only around the bar block, but I don't want to be there when they start shooting. Did find a street dealer got shot in the leg lying flat on the sidewalk in front of bar Malquerida being treated by EMT Sunday afternoon the week before.

DEA just found 2 large tunnels over 1 mile long connecting houses in Tijuana to warehouses in Otay Mesa. They both have railways designed to move large loads of contrabands. Don't know how many more tunnels have not been discovered. Tijuana, Tecate and Mexicali are critical locations for tunnels and movement of massive quantities of drugs. If policia and guardias ever get close to impeding the flow of drugs and migrants in this area, the cartels will likely fight with the heavy weapons they have. The it will be a real civil war. But with a lot of Mexico's top government, policias and army officials known corrupted and on the cartels' payrolls with drug money, and without any recent major drugs busts or arrests by Mexico's authorities, deployments of policias and soldiers highly visible in La Zona Norte may be just theatrics by a complicit government corrupt at all levels. I just hate to be caught in La Zona when they have to do some heavy shooting just to make it look real.

I reassessed my own main reasons to go to Tijuana every week. I primarily have fun meeting and hanging out with the bros in the club, exchanging juicy details about hot girls. The bros give me special fun, empathy and support far better than other personal relationships. Of course I like to hunt for and flirt with the prettiest girls in bars and on streets with the most passionate sessions in bed, but I can only raise the cannon and pop once of twice a night. I like the food, especially seafood, so fresh, spicy, tasty and cheap. I like to drive down to Ensenada along the old, dusty coastline road, checking on quaint restaurants, bars, trinket shops just to see how they are living.

I like to mix adventure, food, life, arts, music, culture, girls, recreation, fun in my travel, not just sex alone. I really want to do a road tour Eastern Europe this September before more of it gets destroyed in war. Let me know if you want to go.

[KBToys]

I am no expert on Mexico but Mexico is definitely amidst a civil war right now. There's so many billions up for grabs. Mexico is 1 of the top tourist destinations in the world, a growing economy. So much of what we see in the alley, is akin to the north Korea south Korea competitive military parades, and long range missile showoff. Basically each group in Mexico wants to show their face, show they are in charge. And this is just between the different government agencies, state and federal, city, . Doesn't even begin to get into the "other" groups who are at war with the government and each other. I get as far away from the guns as possible because I never know if one can slip up, or maybe he's in a bad mood and doesn't like gringos.I see a different side of Tijuana and have been living in the city for the past year. So many luxury condo developments are going up, more English speaking tourists at Soriana and Wal-Mart. The civil war that is going to happen is more likely to occur in the USA With the high cost of living, soaring inflation, and mentally unstable people shooting up schools, churches, and concerts. I'm all for the 2nd amendment and gun rights, but lots of mentally unstable individuals lately in the USA I have been living in Tijuana for the last year and have yet to hear any gun shots. I know a few stabbings occurred at bars, but they were femicide incidents where the guy was upset the lady didn't want to dance so I guess he thought they deserved being stabbed in the torso a couple of times.

The only times I've heard gunshots in my life were in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Atlanta, GA near six flags. I should have experienced more when visiting New Orleans, but luckily just hung out on Bourbon St. Any place can be dangerous, but just have to keep your head on a swivel and don't be a soft target. Also only place in Mexico where you are most likely to be popped is in Cancun or Tulum with the street dealers battling for territory. Look at the news article about some of them trying to shoot at each other on jet skis and also in Tulum some tourists got hit with stray rounds during a shootout. Stay safe and have fun!

[Captain Solo]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2022/02/23/how-is-china-tied-to-organized-crime-in-mexico/?sh=38b63b472bd1

But, while legitimate commerce between Mexico and China is growing, Chinese groups are also becoming more involved in drug trafficking and money laundering in Mexico. In 2007, police in Mexico City seized $205 million in cash from a home owned by Chinese businessman Zhenli Ye Gong. More recently, USA Police have arrested several Chinese nationals for their involvement in sophisticated money laundering operations.

[MongerHunger]

Saw a shit load of military on patrol last night (Saturday). A shit load. Talked to a mother hen chica. And she told me yeah, she noticed it too and it is probably due to the big increase in violence lately. National guards knows they're in a civilian area so they seemed pretty mellow. But I don't think Mexican soldiers knew because they loaded their SAWs with full belts as they went through the alley. Fuck.I seen lots Mexican Army soldiers on patrol this past weekend in Zona Norte mounted on pick ups and also walking on patrol. There was also the National Guard and Municipal Police. It was a strong show of force in the area.

[Captain Solo]

The government is weak and ineffective, laws and order broke down, cannot protect citizens, the population splinters into groups fighting for themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIFvY06_-1Q

[TJLee]

A group of soldiers will also greet you when you entered the first rotary gate.

[Flyer47]

I've read reports of mongers telling the policia to take them to the judge instead of paying a bribe. What happens if you decide to see the judge? Are you required by law to get in the back of the police car to see the judge? Can you arrange for your own transportation to see the judge? If you get pulled out of a taxi or an Uber to see the judge, could you take that taxi or Uber to see the judge instead of getting in the back of the police car?

Also, I believe I have heard fees that the judge assigns can be paid in San Diego. Any more information about this?

I am just curious about all of this and thank you to everyone on the forum, there is a lot of useful information on this forum.

[KBToys]

I've read reports of mongers telling the policia to take them to the judge instead of paying a bribe. What happens if you decide to see the judge? Are you required by law to get in the back of the police car to see the judge? Can you arrange for your own transportation to see the judge? If you get pulled out of a taxi or an Uber to see the judge, could you take that taxi or Uber to see the judge instead of getting in the back of the police car?

Also, I believe I have heard fees that the judge assigns can be paid in San Diego. Any more information about this?

I am just curious about all of this and thank you to everyone on the forum, there is a lot of useful information on this forum.They take your drivers license and then you follow them to the police station. I met their supervisor that spoke English and I paid the fine. It was 2000 peso for tinted windows. Magically my supposed speeding violation wasn't mentioned. It probably would be better off for me to have paid 500-1000 peso to the officer that pulled me over than to go to the station, but the girl I was riding with told me to go to the station.

[Jackie888]

I've read reports of mongers telling the policia to take them to the judge instead of paying a bribe. What happens if you decide to see the judge? Are you required by law to get in the back of the police car to see the judge? Can you arrange for your own transportation to see the judge? If you get pulled out of a taxi or an Uber to see the judge, could you take that taxi or Uber to see the judge instead of getting in the back of the police car?

Also, I believe I have heard fees that the judge assigns can be paid in San Diego. Any more information about this?

I am just curious about all of this and thank you to everyone on the forum, there is a lot of useful information on this forum.I want to be there if upon arrest, any of you guys try to explain that you want to take a uber to see a judge instead if traveling in a cop car.

[Dogers69]

I want to be there if upon arrest, any of you guys try to explain that you want to take a uber to see a judge instead if traveling in a cop car.A back of a police car would be great. Instead if you look closely the criminals are in the back of a pickup truck handcuffed. Better hope they don't do what Baltimore police got sued for, slamming on breaks and making sharp turns so the handcuffed criminals in back of their paddy wagon bounce all around.

[Captain Solo]

Despite checking ATMs for fraud devices before each use, just about every time my wingmen and I used ATMs in HK, Cascada or out on La Zona's streets, our debit cards have been hacked. A few week later the cards would have mysterious cash withdrawals and purchases of pizzas, fast foods, merchandis, etc. A couple hundred dollars each, in various places in the US and Latin America. So they copy the cards and sold info to thieves. In most cases the banks detected fraud, alerted us and refunded our money. But if it happens too often banks may cancel your accounts.

Had no problems when cards were used in HSBC branch, Sorianna supermarket and a few convenient stores in Tijuana. I never had problems with ATMs in the US.

Don't know how the criminals did it but the ATMs in La Zona Norte must have been professionally rigged internally by the owners themselves to copy cards' info and record passwords. It's common knowledge Tijuana's red light district is controlled by the Sinaloa drug cartel. They can do whatever they want with the businesses there and nobody can touch them.

[Flyer47]

I've been stopped on foot by the cops so many times in Tijuana over the years I've lost count. Never tried to hide anything from them and have never had anything stolen. Once they realize I don't speak Spanish they usually send me on my way. Even if you do speak Spanish don't with them. Play the stupid tourist role. I've also noticed over the years that if you have a certain look to you your more likely to be fucked with. Unlike in the US where if you look at somebody the wrong way your deemed racist, in Tijuana they don't care. Profiling does go on in Tijuana so beware! Another good rule of thumb is not to be a dick when stopped or pulled over but don't be timid or show fear either. Moe.What certain look gets you messed with? What specifically do you mean by profiling?

[Artisttyp]

What certain look gets you messed with? What specifically do you mean by profiling?Baseball hats on backwards. Baggy hip hop clothing. Large backpacks etc.

[Hargow20]

The big downside is that you will not necessarily see the judge immediately. I believe they can hold you in jail overnight.


They take your drivers license and then you follow them to the police station. I met their supervisor that spoke English and I paid the fine. It was 2000 peso for tinted windows. Magically my supposed speeding violation wasn't mentioned. It probably would be better off for me to have paid 500-1000 peso to the officer that pulled me over than to go to the station, but the girl I was riding with told me to go to the station.

[Hargow20]

$205 million is nothing. Awhile back a drug lords house was raided & they found $20 billion in a room. If these drug lords had any brains they would make their billion or million and leave the country to retire. Or go into a legitimate business.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2022/02/23/how-is-china-tied-to-organized-crime-in-mexico/?sh=38b63b472bd1

But, while legitimate commerce between Mexico and China is growing, Chinese groups are also becoming more involved in drug trafficking and money laundering in Mexico. In 2007, police in Mexico City seized $205 million in cash from a home owned by Chinese businessman Zhenli Ye Gong. More recently, USA Police have arrested several Chinese nationals for their involvement in sophisticated money laundering operations.

[Cocr Brotheler]

"If these drug lords had any brains they would make their billion or million and leave the country to retire. ".

And convert into non-traceable assets like BTC (bitcoin) and / or precious metals.

[NoClue]

$205 million is nothing. Awhile back a drug lords house was raided & they found $20 billion in a room. If these drug lords had any brains they would make their billion or million and leave the country to retire. Or go into a legitimate business.Your numbers are way off. I promise you there is no way in hell they found 20 billion in cash. No chance even one billion was found in one room.

[SeaBeeJoe]

"If these drug lords had any brains they would make their billion or million and leave the country to retire. ".

And convert into non-traceable assets like BTC (bitcoin) and / or precious metals.I am sure there are some Narcos that have done just that. They are businessman after all, violent ones but still it is all about making money.

[Flyer47]

Is this guide up to date and accurate?

https://wheretheroadforks.com/tijuana-police-corruption-how-to-avoid-paying-bribes/

It is very detailed but I did notice the article mentioned that Tijuana is the 5th largest city in Mexico. I believe Mexico is actually the 2nd largest city in Mexico. This leads me to believe this guide may be a few years old.

[Flyer47]

Is this guide up to date and accurate?

https://wheretheroadforks.com/tijuana-police-corruption-how-to-avoid-paying-bribes/

It is very detailed but I did notice the article mentioned that Tijuana is the 5th largest city in Mexico. I believe Mexico is actually the 2nd largest city in Mexico. This leads me to believe this guide may be a few years old.I meant to say I believe Tijuana is the 2nd largest city in Mexico.

[Hargow20]

Yes very good & complete article. If you are searched by the cops then you should immediately hold your money & cell phone in your hands. I have noticed recently that the police have not been searching pedestrians as much. The police seem to be stopping drivers more often.


Is this guide up to date and accurate?

https://wheretheroadforks.com/tijuana-police-corruption-how-to-avoid-paying-bribes/

It is very detailed but I did notice the article mentioned that Tijuana is the 5th largest city in Mexico. I believe Mexico is actually the 2nd largest city in Mexico. This leads me to believe this guide may be a few years old.

[Flyer47]

Yes very good & complete article. If you are searched by the cops then you should immediately hold your money & cell phone in your hands. I have noticed recently that the police have not been searching pedestrians as much. The police seem to be stopping drivers more often.What about hidden money? I believe a lot of travelers will hide money on various places throughout their person. Do they just leave that money in their various hiding places during a police search?

[Dogers69]

What about hidden money? I believe a lot of travelers will hide money on various places throughout their person. Do they just leave that money in their various hiding places during a police search?The cop has patted me down about 8 times in 7 years of going to Tijuana. I don't show them my hidden money and they haven't found it. I also don't cave to their nonsense. From viagra being a crime to not having my identification on me. I don't apologize and make myself look in the wrong. I told them "how can I carry my passport around when people be robbing me for it on these streets".

[Flyer47]

If you are in line return to the US and are traveling solo and need to use the restroom, do you have a random stranger hold your place in line for you while you use the restroom?

[Captain Solo]

I was walking from the auto body shop to La Zona Sunday afternoon.

5 Policia Municipal pick up trucks and patrol cars blocked the street flashing beacons. They arrested 2 middle-aged gringos, hand cuffed, sitting on the truck rear gate being interrogated, looking very scared. Policias were all wearing tactical vests, armed with M-4 carbines and hand guns. Locals told me those 2 guys were involved in the drug trade.

The neighborhood North of Chicago Club is alleged to be a hub for drug trafficking and cartels' activities. The bros should not wander too far away from the bar block. Risks are high that bad shit might happen.

[Dogers69]

I was walking from the auto body shop to La Zona Sunday afternoon.

5 Policia Municipal pick up trucks and patrol cars blocked the street flashing beacons. They arrested 2 middle-aged gringos, hand cuffed, sitting on the truck rear gate being interrogated, looking very scared. Policias were all wearing tactical vests, armed with M-4 carbines and hand guns. Locals told me those 2 guys were involved in the drug trade.

The neighborhood North of Chicago Club is alleged to be a hub for drug trafficking and cartels' activities. The bros should not wander too far away from the bar block. Risks are high that bad shit might happen.I think it was in last couple days us state department put a warning up, for Americans to stay away Tijuana due to violence from expected cartel policia shootouts.

[Artisttyp]

I think it was in last couple days us state department put a warning up, for Americans to stay away Tijuana due to violence from expected cartel policia shootouts.They arrested a big dealer recently so they are expecting gun play. It happens every time someone is knocked out of the loop. It leaves an open door to control the plaza.

[Artisttyp]

If you are in line return to the US and are traveling solo and need to use the restroom, do you have a random stranger hold your place in line for you while you use the restroom?This is a GREAT question. I haven't needed to do that in years but their used to be bathrooms available along the Ped Route. Often times the jerks in the US Customs building have theirs closed. It's absolute torture.

Pro Tip:

Bring quarters with you. If the customs restroom is closed you will need them to use the bathroom at the Mc Donalds next to the trolley. Jack and The Box is free but my bladder prefers Mc Donalds since it is closer.

[Hargow20]

"The July 4th warning states that there is the potential for confrontations between criminal organizations and Mexican security forces in Baja California, following the July 2 arrest of a prominent cartel leader. ".

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/travel-warning-mexico-tijuana-rosarito

[AmorPorFavor]

More news of the sindicatura not doing his job as only 10 police have been suspended in his tenure and many given their gun and badge back so they can repeat the same behavior and possibly retaliate against their victims. There is no Transparency as no police photos are ever published in the news with their criminal cases. The position of sindicatura is only for public relations Rafael Leyva Pérez not to provide support to tourist who are robbed as there are no English Speaking staff in the sindicatura office which I have personally been to. The process is a joke as they do not even get a inked copy of a criminal complaint from the victims of the heinous crimes committed against them. So if only 5% of officers reported are criminally prosecuted and a high chance of them returning to the same position, they will reoffend. So why not take a chance and rob an American tourist in Tijuana, Baja California or Rosarito Beach Uncensored! If the probability is your not going to get in trouble for your theft, doesn't this support more of the same behavior. Where are the police officers that are criminally charged ever posted in the paper? They have superior rights over all other Mexicans even as a member of the public who robs people is publicized in the news. The same accountability needs to be given to criminal police officers.

[TJLee]

Half of the streets and alley are dark tonight with no electric since 4 pm. Be careful walking out there. This looks like the scene from April 2020 when all was shutdown.

[Flyer47]

https://youtu.be/VMQMJ1dpCR0

People were commenting some homes are only able to use water at certain times. Anyone know anything about this? Will this affect zona Centro, zona Rio or zona Norte?

[SomeDude321]

The youtube clip focused on Monterrey, Nuevo Leon. Water shortages have been a known issue in that city for at the least the last month.

In Tijuana when they have shortages, zona centro, rio and norte haven't been affected up to now (or at least the commercial blocks).


https://youtu.be/VMQMJ1dpCR0

People were commenting some homes are only able to use water at certain times. Anyone know anything about this? Will this affect zona Centro, zona Rio or zona Norte?

[Dogers69]

https://youtu.be/VMQMJ1dpCR0

People were commenting some homes are only able to use water at certain times. Anyone know anything about this? Will this affect zona Centro, zona Rio or zona Norte?Tijuana Zona Norte chicas have been practicing water conservation since the big drought of 1910, by eliminating showers for themselves for the most part. I must of ended up in one of those poor areas in Tijuana once because there was no water but everyone filled buckets of water up for the days with no water. It was like camping.

[AmorPorFavor]

https://youtu.be/VMQMJ1dpCR0

People were commenting some homes are only able to use water at certain times. Anyone know anything about this? Will this affect zona Centro, zona Rio or zona Norte?It could be a problem in the near future. Tijuana gets almost all its water from the Colorado river and they are low on the priority list. I hope it doesn't come to that.

[Hargow20]

Mexico needs to start investing more to improve their water infrastructure. One way to would be purify all that polluted water that flows down that smelly flood control channel. The water could be used for grey water or for taking showers & toilets etc. No one drinks the tap water in Mexico so this would not be a big issue. Another option would be for the US to build a treatment plant & charge Mexico for the clean water. Doubtful in the Mexican govt would go for this however. Personally I have not seen much water conservation restrictions in the Zona.


It could be a problem in the near future. Tijuana gets almost all its water from the Colorado river and they are low on the priority list. I hope it doesn't come to that.

[Travv]

Californians and other Americans are flooding Mexico City. Some locals want them to go home, posting signs around the city that tell newcomers to go home. Here's why:

Sign by Mexican locals: "New to the City? Working Remotely" They read in English. "You're a fucking plague and the locals fucking hate you! Leave!

Commenters:

It was in an 'over-tourism' piece that I first read the term: 'social pollution' to describe the impact of having your social spaces in your own community being full of foreigners. Guessing Mexicans are tired of being overrun by Californian social justice warriors, feminists and soyboys from Frisco. . . There are limits to even what Mexicans will tolerate! LOL.

[Artisttyp]

Californians and other Americans are flooding Mexico City. Some locals want them to go home, posting signs around the city that tell newcomers to go home. Here's why:

Sign by Mexican locals: "New to the City? Working Remotely" They read in English. "You're a fucking plague and the locals fucking hate you! Leave!

Commenters:

It was in an 'over-tourism' piece that I first read the term: 'social pollution' to describe the impact of having your social spaces in your own community being full of foreigners. Guessing Mexicans are tired of being overrun by Californian social justice warriors, feminists and soyboys from Frisco. . . There are limits to even what Mexicans will tolerate! LOL.It's happening in Puerto Rico too. Nobody wants the gringo nonsense on their land. They see all the bullshit we create for ourselves and how miserable we are as a race.

I agree with the natives. Westerners bring disease and caos.

[Jackie888]

Mexico needs to start investing more to improve their water infrastructure. One way to would be purify all that polluted water that flows down that smelly flood control channel. The water could be used for grey water or for taking showers & toilets etc. No one drinks the tap water in Mexico so this would not be a big issue. Another option would be for the US to build a treatment plant & charge Mexico for the clean water. Doubtful in the Mexican govt would go for this however. Personally I have not seen much water conservation restrictions in the Zona.https://voiceofsandiego.org/2022/05/24/san-diego-pays-a-lot-for-abundant-water-tijuana-pays-a-different-price-for-water-scarcity/

The poor like those in the US, are getting hosed.

[Cocr Brotheler]

I like most PRs people however too expensive for me to move my gringo ass there.

Also FYIs PR Govt. ruined their economy long ago with high taxes (internal business) and over spending so most PR people phucked and have long since moved from PR to Orlando (spicky mouse LOL) etc.

Bad Bunny a PR right? His music so cool!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvl1ZI_8hwQ

[Jackie888]

Heavy military presence over the weekend. Funny, but they were busy removing a lot of the homeless people in the area.

[Captain Solo]

Was in the alley Saturday afternoon. It was sunny and hot.

2 Policia Municipal pick up trucks stopped at HK's back door. 4 cops went out and cuffed one of the street dealers. New dealers keep showing up every week at that spot, so policia will never arrest all of them. At least policias are doing some work.

A cartel's spotter always stands on the balcony of the bar over the entrance of Lira parking at the alley's east end, looking straight down the alley with a phone and a beer in his hands. Any cops move in he would call his dealers. They have enough time to disappear. I am surprised they arrested one guy this time.

Squads of Guardia National soldiers, in full battle gears with automatic weapons, were patrolling on foot and pick up truck on Coahuila and the alley, around the bar block and South in the cathedral's plaza. They stopped a car in the alley near HK's back door and did a long search but found nothing and had to let the driver go. Looks like Mexico is spending money and manpower chasing street-level drug dealers.

[Jackie888]

Was in the alley Saturday afternoon. It was sunny and hot.

2 Policia Municipal pick up trucks stopped at HK's back door. 4 cops went out and cuffed one of the street dealers. New dealers keep showing up every week at that spot, so policia will never arrest all of them. At least policias are doing some work.

A cartel's spotter always stands on the balcony of the bar over the entrance of Lira parking at the alley's east end, looking straight down the alley with a phone and a beer in his hands. Any cops move in he would call his dealers. They have enough time to disappear. I am surprised they arrested one guy this time.

Squads of Guardia National soldiers, in full battle gears with automatic weapons, were patrolling on foot and pick up truck on Coahuila and the alley, around the bar block and South in the cathedral's plaza. They stopped a car in the alley near HK's back door and did a long search but found nothing and had to let the driver go. Looks like Mexico is spending money and manpower chasing street-level drug dealers.I have a feeling that the police arrest the non-paying dealers.

[Dogers69]

Was in the alley Saturday afternoon. It was sunny and hot.

2 Policia Municipal pick up trucks stopped at HK's back door. 4 cops went out and cuffed one of the street dealers. New dealers keep showing up every week at that spot, so policia will never arrest all of them. At least policias are doing some work.

A cartel's spotter always stands on the balcony of the bar over the entrance of Lira parking at the alley's east end, looking straight down the alley with a phone and a beer in his hands. Any cops move in he would call his dealers. They have enough time to disappear. I am surprised they arrested one guy this time.

Squads of Guardia National soldiers, in full battle gears with automatic weapons, were patrolling on foot and pick up truck on Coahuila and the alley, around the bar block and South in the cathedral's plaza. They stopped a car in the alley near HK's back door and did a long search but found nothing and had to let the driver go. Looks like Mexico is spending money and manpower chasing street-level drug dealers.Yes I saw a dealer arrested in the alley maybe Thursday as well. Theres so much crazy going on in the Zona and at the same time it's such a small world everyone knows each other. Someone should make a reality show out of it. You ca have a airbnb apartment with a corrupt cop who robs gringos, a street girl, a HK chick a masero, a couple mongers, and a up to no good ex con deported street dude.

[SomeDude321]

https://twitter.com/ConsuladoUSATJ/status/1558305282110984193?cxt=HHwWgsC4_bqZm6ArAAAA

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/gang-violence-leaves-11-dead-mexican-border-city-88295071

Wednesday night and Thursday morning shit hit the fan in Guadalajara and Guanajuato. Buses and Oxxos were set ablaze. Today shit hit the fan in Juarez with 11 reportedly dead. Now there's reports in Tijuana of similar things happening.

The US Consulate in Tijuana twitter account posted a warning. Looks like there's a lot of turbulence in Mexico at the moment. Stay safe out there.

[Jackie888]

10 pm Friday night. Zona Norte went into full lockdown. All bars including HK Adelitas Chicago closed by orders of the military. All business whether it is the barber shop or the fuck motels closed down. About 10 pm Friday night.

Stay safe. BTW the Cartels are really pissed because a couple of their leaders were arrested. I think they have looted about 30 OXXO in Western Mexico.

[DonCarlos1234]

https://twitter.com/ConsuladoUSATJ/status/1558305282110984193?cxt=HHwWgsC4_bqZm6ArAAAA

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/gang-violence-leaves-11-dead-mexican-border-city-88295071

Wednesday night and Thursday morning shit hit the fan in Guadalajara and Guanajuato. Buses and Oxxos were set ablaze. Today shit hit the fan in Juarez with 11 reportedly dead. Now there's reports in Tijuana of similar things happening.

The US Consulate in Tijuana twitter account posted a warning. Looks like there's a lot of turbulence in Mexico at the moment. Stay safe out there.An IG account I follow - https://www.instagram.com/p/ChL2whXLJlF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link.

[Nothing24]

Damn and I was feeling kinda down because I've been under the weather the last couple of days so haven’t been able to go to TJ. Just been here thinking about the last couple girls I banged at HK. Now I don't feel as bad, perfect time to take a break from the clubs and chill at home after all I guess. Be careful fellas.

[Penetrador]

https://twitter.com/ConsuladoUSATJ/status/1558305282110984193?cxt=HHwWgsC4_bqZm6ArAAAA

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/gang-violence-leaves-11-dead-mexican-border-city-88295071

Wednesday night and Thursday morning shit hit the fan in Guadalajara and Guanajuato. Buses and Oxxos were set ablaze. Today shit hit the fan in Juarez with 11 reportedly dead. Now there's reports in Tijuana of similar things happening.

The US Consulate in Tijuana twitter account posted a warning. Looks like there's a lot of turbulence in Mexico at the moment. Stay safe out there.Is there a cartel war going on or something?

[Jackie888]

https://twitter.com/ConsuladoUSATJ/status/1558305282110984193?cxt=HHwWgsC4_bqZm6ArAAAA

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/gang-violence-leaves-11-dead-mexican-border-city-88295071

Wednesday night and Thursday morning shit hit the fan in Guadalajara and Guanajuato. Buses and Oxxos were set ablaze. Today shit hit the fan in Juarez with 11 reportedly dead. Now there's reports in Tijuana of similar things happening.

The US Consulate in Tijuana twitter account posted a warning. Looks like there's a lot of turbulence in Mexico at the moment. Stay safe out there.Tijuana TV broadcasted this warning:

"solo para avisarles que abra toque de queda este viernes sabado why domingo a partir de el DIA viernes a las 10:00 de la noche hasta el DIA domingo a las 3 am vamos a hacer desmade para que el puto goblerno libre nuestra gente Somos cartel Jalisco nueva generation no queremos lastimar a gente buena es mejor que no salgan vamos a levantar a todo aquel que se vea osos dias en la calle puro cing. ".

I think it said that the New Generation Cartel is imposing a curfew from 10 pm-3 am from Friday to Sunday? Some one with better Spanish, please help translate. US Consulate issued a shelter in place for Americans I think.

[Dogers69]

10 pm Friday night. Zona Norte went into full lockdown. All bars including HK Adelitas Chicago closed by orders of the military. All business whether it is the barber shop or the fuck motels closed down. About 10 pm Friday night.

Stay safe. BTW the Cartels are really pissed because a couple of their leaders were arrested. I think they have looted about 30 OXXO in Western Mexico.Looks like a cluster fuck. Tijuana was always ripe for a major blow up with all the money rolling through it, the lawlessness, different levels of police military dressed in body armor with machine guns, and then you have the other groups I won't name fighting to run Tijuana. Its not easy to find a wealthy city of 2 million people available for the taking to anyone ready to die for it. But that's the city of Tijuana right now.

[Captain Solo]

Policias arrested 9 Mexicles led to violence and shooting civilians and burning vehicles on the streets of Juarez, Mexicali, Tecate, Tijuana.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/13/us-consulate-tijuana-advised-shelter-in-place-as-chaos-violence-erupt/

Mexico's politicians will give cartels more hugs for this.

[WombatEd2]

Tijuana TV broadcasted this warning:

"solo para avisarles que abra toque de queda este viernes sabado why domingo a partir de el DIA viernes a las 10:00 de la noche hasta el DIA domingo a las 3 am vamos a hacer desmade para que el puto goblerno libre nuestra gente Somos cartel Jalisco nueva generation no queremos lastimar a gente buena es mejor que no salgan vamos a levantar a todo aquel que se vea osos dias en la calle puro cing. ".Google translates as: "Just to let you know that the curfew opens this Friday, Saturday, and Sunday from Friday at 10:00 pm Until Sunday at 3 am, we are going to go out of our way so that the fucking government frees our people We are the Jalisco new generation cartel, we do not want to hurt good people, it is better they do not go out, we are going to raise up everyone who is seen on the street for days, pure cing."

(I have no idea what a "pure cinq" is.)

[BigButtDetecto]

Is there a cartel war going on or something?Apparently AMLO's policy of hugs isn't enough for the Cartels; they want more.

[SomeDude321]

A high ranking member of an org was captured earlier this week, so it's a protests of sorts against the government and an pressure tactic with the hopes of them being released, with everyday people caught in the middle. The burning of Oxxos and burning of cars / buses to shut down highways being their tactic. It had been done in GDL, Jalisco and Guanajuato (Western Mex) in the middle of the week, and now in Juarez, Tijuana, Rosarito and other Baja cities yesterday.

Source: https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/jalisco-plaza-chief-arrest-fiery-backlash/.

From what I recall, last time the gov went head to head in 2019 with a different org, the gov captured who they were looking for, only to be released a few hours later since the gov was outgunned and the org went scorched earth on innocent civilians.

Source: https://time.com/5705358/sinaloa-cartel-mexico-culiacan/.


Is there a cartel war going on or something?

[BrotherMouzone]

A high ranking member of an org was captured earlier this week, so it's a protests of sorts against the government and an pressure tactic with the hopes of them being released, with everyday people caught in the middle. The burning of Oxxos and burning of cars / buses to shut down highways being their tactic. It had been done in GDL, Jalisco and Guanajuato (Western Mex) in the middle of the week, and now in Juarez, Tijuana, Rosarito and other Baja cities yesterday.

Source: https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/jalisco-plaza-chief-arrest-fiery-backlash/.

From what I recall, last time the gov went head to head in 2019 with a different org, the gov captured who they were looking for, only to be released a few hours later since the gov was outgunned and the org went scorched earth on innocent civilians.

Source: https://time.com/5705358/sinaloa-cartel-mexico-culiacan/.Yeah, that was the son of El Chapo, who the president of Mexico actually ordered released a short while later due to being outgunned by cartel forces. Crazy. Imagine something like that happening in the USA.

[Artisttyp]

Crazy. Imagine something like that happening in the USA.Considering the economic consequences and the inability of Mexico to stop this maybe negotiations with the cartels wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe the cartel arm of the Mexican Political system could become a Leftist People Party and balance the status quo.

Colombia, Bolivia, Peru, seem to make it work for them. Albeit with a few kinks along the way.

Why fight when you can join? I don't see other alternatives at this point. That opportunity (if there was one) has been long gone. The cartels are as ENDEMIC to Mexico as is Covid at this point.

Just thinking outside the box.

[Mojo Bandit]

Cartel threatens weekend of mass violence in all of Northern Baja.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/cartel-threatens-weekend-of-mass-violence-in-all-of-northern-baja/

[Jackie888]

Friday night, they torched a mini-SUV on the bridge that the HK limo usually takes to the border at about 7 pm. The smoldering thing was still sitting there on the bridge at 10 pm when I went by. They also torched another in a location where there was a street sign to Plaza Rio / border. This one was on Tijuana TV. The Sentri line back to the border was the longest I have ever seen. And I have never seen so many cars with Mexico plates crossing the border before. I think all Mexicans with a passport scrambled their asses to get out of Tijuana just in case this terrorism act blows up into a hot shooting war like in the past.

And they torched another car by the soccer stadium. So this morning, I contacted a couple of favorites but they were too scared to come to work. Anyone knows the status of the bars as of Saturday?

It is shitty writing, but it seems that the Cartel will lift the curfew 3 a Sunday. So that is Saturday-Sunday? Or is it Sunday-Monday?

[Hargow20]

We face the following potential risks in Tijuana:

1. Random acts of violence on civilians.

2. A increase of rattero muggings.

3. Increase of police shakedowns.

It is important that we al extra caution & report as soon as possible. ! This one girl. Tod me that the Zona is shut down till Sunday. !! I was thinking of visiting the Zona until I heard about this. !! Was looking forward to Another great BJ today.


Considering the economic consequences and the inability of Mexico to stop this maybe negotiations with the cartels wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe the cartel arm of the Mexican Political system could become a Leftist People Party and balance the status quo.

Colombia, Bolivia, Peru, seem to make it work for them. Albeit with a few kinks along the way.

Why fight when you can join? I don't see other alternatives at this point. That opportunity (if there was one) has been long gone. The cartels are as ENDEMIC to Mexico as is Covid at this point.

Just thinking outside the box.

[Captain Solo]

https://insightcrime.org/news/el-mencho-wife-arrested-what-jjalisco-cartel/

On November 15, troops arrested Rosalinda González Valencia, wife of Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes, alias "El Mencho," one of Mexico's most powerful drug traffickers and leader of the Jalisco Cartel New Generation (Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacióand. CJNG, according to a government press release. Officials said in the release that her arrest – which occurred in Zapopan, Jalisco – was considered a "significant blow to the financial structure of organized crime in the state of Jalisco. ".

[Captain Solo]

Suspected of posting intels re cartels:

Administrators of 'Tijuana 664' Facebook page shot and killed.

Here's how spreading anonymous news about the cartels can get you murdered: Anonymous Facebook gossipers murdered by cartels:

https://www.borderreport.com/immigration/border-crime/administrators-of-tijuana-664-facebook-page-shot-and-killed/

Administrators of 'Tijuana 664' Facebook page shot and killed by: Salvador Rivera.

Posted: Aug 9, 2022/06:28 PM CDT Updated: Aug 9, 2022/06:38 PM CDT.

TIJUANA (Border Report) — The two men who ran a Facebook page known as "Tijuana 664" were murdered Saturday night outside the home they shared in the Tijuana neighborhood of Cañóand El Rubí.

Both men were shot and killed, according to Baja California state investigators, who identified the victims only by their first names: Sergio, 40, and Mario, 43.

Their Facebook postings were anonymous, and the entries often included gossip, rumors and copies of stories from sources within mainstream media.

And they were known for posting gory details of violent crimes in Tijuana.

Neither Sergio nor Mario were considered journalists and reporters south of the border said they did not take their Facebook page seriously.

"These kinds of pages, and the people behind them, are putting us at risk," Sonia de Anda told the San Diego Union-Tribune.

De Anda is a veteran reporter in Tijuana who runs the news site Esquina 32.

Investigators believe the victims were murdered because they were publishing information about drug cartels.

They say no one has been arrested in connection with the murders.

Tijuana 664 had about 17,000 followers on Facebook; 664 is Tijuana's telephone area code in Mexico.

Copyright 2022 Nexstar Media Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Border Report Daily Newsletter.

[StRobert]

Breaking news! Guys do not come to Tijuana this weekend (Saturday and Sunday) State of emergency in the city because cartel violence. Please "Google" Tijuana news for more details.

[Dogers69]

Considering the economic consequences and the inability of Mexico to stop this maybe negotiations with the cartels wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe the cartel arm of the Mexican Political system could become a Leftist People Party and balance the status quo.

Colombia, Bolivia, Peru, seem to make it work for them. Albeit with a few kinks along the way.

Why fight when you can join? I don't see other alternatives at this point. That opportunity (if there was one) has been long gone. The cartels are as ENDEMIC to Mexico as is Covid at this point.

Just thinking outside the box.The president doesn't want that cartel smoke. Like you said, the cartel is already running mexico. Cartel is the government. I would. Exoect these dudes to quietly get released from jail to satisfy the request of the cartel wing of Mexican government.

[Dogers69]

Yeah, that was the son of El Chapo, who the president of Mexico actually ordered released a short while later due to being outgunned by cartel forces. Crazy. Imagine something like that happening in the USA.Not hard to imagine. USA has a lot violence, I watched looters blow up a dozen cars in NYC the news didn't mention it because it didn't fit their narrative a few years ago. . all. Governments run scared. Like the school. Shooter cops being afraid to go into the classroom. Its why cops hang out by the thousands on USA beaches to watch for crime but stay out of the ghetto.

[Hargow20]

My girl that lives in ssid the alley was closed in the zona. ? Was also wondering if the ratero's have been more active since the cartel violence started? If anyone has any more recent news please post immediately?

[Travv]

Remember, the activity in Tijuana setting cars or buildings on fire is Mostly Peaceful Protesting! Just like in Portland or Seattle or Minneapolis during the BLM riots. Oops Mostly Peaceful Protesting! Nothing to worry about!

If you feel danger from cartel dudes, yell out "Cartel Lives Matter!" Then you'll be in like Flynn! LOL.


Breaking news! Guys do not come to Tijuana this weekend (Saturday and Sunday) State of emergency in the city because cartel violence. Please "Google" Tijuana news for more details.

[StRobert]

Breaking news! Guys do not come to Tijuana this weekend (Saturday and Sunday) State of emergency in the city because cartel violence. Please "Google" Tijuana news for more details.Cartel violence in Baja California today link video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOsvz1uK-vg&t=5s.

[AmericanPi]

It's interesting to read all of this news of the violence.

Just the last few weeks the LA Times the New York Times both were running stories on how so many Americans who are remote working digital nomads were living in Mexico and enjoying the lower costs of living.

This is a reminder that nothing is free. You just pay another way. Wonder how those articles would read today.

I feel so bad for the innocent people of Mexico having to deal with this nonsense. They deserve better.

[Jackie888]

On Saturday, Tijuana was a ghost town as one of my favorite described it. It was similar to the Covid lockdown except for the sounds of sirens and car fires. As far as I know the zona norte was closed down. I cannot recall the last time the zona norte was closed down, even during the height of the cartel wars back in the day (about 10 years ago or so) when several hundred people were kidnapped and tortured to death, and triggered a mass exodus of middle class Mexicans to Chula Vista. Back then I had to take a 357 with me as a good luck charm. Fuck, now most of the major clubs have metal detectors.

Sunday morning, the shelter in place order is still in effect. But the curfew was supposed to end per the original Cartel warnings. So which of you guys are willing to do the recon and report back? Don't we have a couple of guys who like BBFS and a couple of Covid deniers who are willing to explore the zona norte and tell us what is like at ground zero?

[Artisttyp]

Don't we have a couple of guys who like BBFS and a couple of Covid deniers who are willing to explore the zona norte and tell us what is like at ground zero?Go for the ASS EATERS. Those guys have nothing to lose.

[Penetrador]

It's interesting to read all of this news of the violence.

Just the last few weeks the LA Times the New York Times both were running stories on how so many Americans who are remote working digital nomads were living in Mexico and enjoying the lower costs of living.

This is a reminder that nothing is free. You just pay another way. Wonder how those articles would read today.

I feel so bad for the innocent people of Mexico having to deal with this nonsense. They deserve better.Make no Mistake about it Ill rather live in Mexico. And those Americans that left I bet have better lives now.

[Hadez]

Better to do your own recon.

As someone who has been to bad neighborhoods all over the world the first thing I would suggest is how many cars were burned? Where were they? Over what period of hours and days? Herd this morning 9 deaths so far. How many were targeted and how many random? How many different incidents involving deaths? How many incidents of body harm that did not result in deaths? I know we trying to determine if this heightened period is more risky than normal but it is prudent to be able to determine how does this compare to normal times? Are there always these number of incidents involving bodily harm?

I have worked near bad neighborhoods. Been in bad neighborhoods for a variety of reasons. I have had a gun placed against my head as I was robbed. BTW all the worst things have happened to me in the USA. Not saying that Mexico is safe. Just saying a lot of people ride the drama waves created by the media trying to get ratings / clicks / views and very people few actually look into the actual crime metrics.

Finally it is probably better for the average person to not even go even if someone with experience in these matters goes down and reports it is safe. These people smell fear like a shark senses food in the water. They will be drawn to the fear just like a shark is drawn.


On Saturday, Tijuana was a ghost town as one of my favorite described it. It was similar to the Covid lockdown except for the sounds of sirens and car fires. As far as I know the zona norte was closed down. I cannot recall the last time the zona norte was closed down, even during the height of the cartel wars back in the day (about 10 years ago or so) when several hundred people were kidnapped and tortured to death, and triggered a mass exodus of middle class Mexicans to Chula Vista. Back then I had to take a 357 with me as a good luck charm. Fuck, now most of the major clubs have metal detectors.

Sunday morning, the shelter in place order is still in effect. But the curfew was supposed to end per the original Cartel warnings. So which of you guys are willing to do the recon and report back? Don't we have a couple of guys who like BBFS and a couple of Covid deniers who are willing to explore the zona norte and tell us what is like at ground zero?

[AmericanPi]

Go for the ASS EATERS. Those guys have nothing to lose.But not the guys who write missives saying their HK girl or escort told them they were uniquely handsome and they had the biggest orgasm of their life and they snuggled and would do this all again for free (but ya better pay fool. This ass ain't free).

Those dudes will just report back that the cartels loved them and in fact they joined the cartel as honorary members and now the cartels recognize them and call them Mi Gringuito and bring them Starbucks each morning when they get up.

[MarksOfMagic]

So which of you guys are willing to do the recon and report back? Don't we have a couple of guys who like BBFS and a couple of Covid deniers who are willing to explore the zona norte and tell us what is like at ground zero?A brave wingman headed straight into the line of fire Friday night to comfort his crying, scared hk chica. He now goes by seal team chica sucka, blackops front line Hk soilder. This guy went radio silent til Sunday morning, so we got a little worried and thought about mounting a rescue mission. He finally replied and his report was a bit disappointing. A useless foot soilder as he was holed up in his chicas apartment. Cuddling. Main intel from his mission, streets are dead, no ubers, high military street show of force. He reports everything went down on Friday night, Saturday night was calm. Cartel statment was made Friday, so the cartels would know not to make another splash with 3350 (+350 flown in from mexico city) military troops in Tijuana in addition to the 2000 local police. The element of surprise is gone. Cbp crossing has been fairly empty, so it may be flooded this week with beach fest and regular travelers crossing back.

[Hadez]

It will probably affect buisness and girls will be looking to maximize revenue on the sources they have available.

[Captain Solo]

CJNG left messages in Tijuana for government to release its leaders.

El Menchos wife was arrested in Sept for laundering. Expect escalation in violence until AMLO decides to release her.

[Sol12]

On Saturday, Tijuana was a ghost town as one of my favorite described it. It was similar to the Covid lockdown except for the sounds of sirens and car fires. As far as I know the zona norte was closed down. I cannot recall the last time the zona norte was closed down, even during the height of the cartel wars back in the day (about 10 years ago or so) when several hundred people were kidnapped and tortured to death, and triggered a mass exodus of middle class Mexicans to Chula Vista. Back then I had to take a 357 with me as a good luck charm. Fuck, now most of the major clubs have metal detectors.

Sunday morning, the shelter in place order is still in effect. But the curfew was supposed to end per the original Cartel warnings. So which of you guys are willing to do the recon and report back? Don't we have a couple of guys who like BBFS and a couple of Covid deniers who are willing to explore the zona norte and tell us what is like at ground zero?Interesting choice of words. I don't recall anyone denying COVID just those that wanted to have a discussion on the fact that locking down the world for something that has a low death relate was the correct thing. Then when the vaccine was available that some didn't see the use on forcing it on society because it was not tested over enough time to prove its usefulness or what side affects it may have. Now almost 3 years later and what has happened with inflation and the effect on the poorest in the world I think most wouldn't do the same if we could go back in time.

I was living in Tijuana back when things were crazy but it wasn't as bad as the news portrayed, with this latest episode I can only feel for those in Tijuana and how people in some of the larger cities in the US feel now letting the criminals run the city because the leadership in charge don't know how to fight back.

In general the Zona is the safest area to visit if you are just going to the clubs and going back to the border. If you want to go thru life scared of everything then don't go in the ocean because you will be eaten by a shark, don't get on a plane because you will crash, don't drive your car because you are ruining the earth, don't eat meat because cows farts are ruining the earth and last of all don't go to Tijuana to have fun because some low life pretend tough guys are going to kill you.

[Jackie888]

Interesting choice of words. I don't recall anyone denying COVID just those that wanted to have a discussion on the fact that locking down the world for something that has a low death relate was the correct thing. Then when the vaccine was available that some didn't see the use on forcing it on society because it was not tested over enough time to prove its usefulness or what side affects it may have. Now almost 3 years later and what has happened with inflation and the effect on the poorest in the world I think most wouldn't do the same if we could go back in time.

I was living in Tijuana back when things were crazy but it wasn't as bad as the news portrayed, with this latest episode I can only feel for those in Tijuana and how people in some of the larger cities in the US feel now letting the criminals run the city because the leadership in charge don't know how to fight back.

In general the Zona is the safest area to visit if you are just going to the clubs and going back to the border. If you want to go thru life scared of everything then don't go in the ocean because you will be eaten by a shark, don't get on a plane because you will crash, don't drive your car because you are ruining the earth, don't eat meat because cows farts are ruining the earth and last of all don't go to Tijuana to have fun because some low life pretend tough guys are going to kill you.So. Did you go out Friday night after the curfew and spend Saturday in the Zona Norte?

[DonCarlos1234]

CJNG left messages in Tijuana for government to release its leaders.

El Menchos wife was arrested in Sept for laundering. Expect escalation in violence until AMLO decides to release her.Why do they arrest anyone? Jail? Seems like Duterte had a solution.

Living in Baja, I remember bullets bouncing off walls next to me during a kidnapping. I remember guns to my head while being carjacked. I knew models that were kidnaped, had their toes broken and continually rapped till death. Gun touting Mayor of Rosarito had balls. While a lot of gringos abandoned their condos on the beaches. The beaches were empty. MX survives, people learn to live with this because they have no choice. Hope it doesn't last too long this time. But if the beaches are empty, I like that.

[SeaBeeJoe]

A brave wingman headed straight into the line of fire Friday night to comfort his crying, scared hk chica. He now goes by seal team chica sucka, blackops front line Hk soilder. This guy went radio silent til Sunday morning, so we got a little worried and thought about mounting a rescue mission. He finally replied and his report was a bit disappointing. A useless foot soldier as he was holed up in his chicas apartment. Cuddling. Main intel from his mission, streets are dead, no ubers, high military street show of force. He reports everything went down on Friday night, Saturday night was calm. Cartel statment was made Friday, so the cartels would know not to make another splash with 3350 (+350 flown in from mexico city) military troops in Tijuana in addition to the 2000 local police. The element of surprise is gone. Cbp crossing has been fairly empty, so it may be flooded this week with beach fest and regular travelers crossing back.Your friend is a special kind of crazy, I hope he stays safe because as a vet of 2 wars (Operation Desert Storm and Operation Enduring Freedom) I can tell you fuck that shit. No Para Rescueman going to bail you out if something bad happens to you. At least where I live I got an amory and the knowledge in the use of firearms to protect myself. Fucking Mexico won't allow me to have a butter knife LOL. Mexico is a fucked place where the bad guys get military grade hardware and the regular joes can't even carry a knife or pepper spray for protection. I feel bad for the regular Mexican National. Their Government is to blame as always.

[Sol12]

So. Did you go out Friday night after the curfew and spend Saturday in the Zona Norte?If you pay attention to most of my posts I spend very little time in Tijuana these last few years and I never go on a Friday or Saturday night because of crowds. If I was to go to Tijuana I would have still gone because I'm not going to let the cartels control my life. This is the same way I felt about COVID and not being afraid to go yo the Zona at that time as well even though the way they had the hotel set up at that time it was a higher risk since everyone was in closer proximity. Besides like I mentioned in my statement that the Zona would be the safest area to be in.

[Sol12]

Your friend is a special kind of crazy, I hope he stays safe because as a vet of 2 wars (Operation Desert Storm and Operation Enduring Freedom) I can tell you fuck that shit. No Para Rescueman going to bail you out if something bad happens to you. At least where I live I got an amory and the knowledge in the use of firearms to protect myself. Fucking Mexico won't allow me to have a butter knife LOL. Mexico is a fucked place where the bad guys get military grade hardware and the regular joes can't even carry a knife or pepper spray for protection. I feel bad for the regular Mexican National. Their Government is to blame as always.So if a girl that you cared about called crying, alone and scared you wouldn't do anything to help. Seems odd coming from someone that served in the military as I always think you help those that cannot help themselves. I do agree with your point about Mexican citizens not being able to arm themselves, but I would say that many Mexican Nationals would blame more the US because we are the ones that are demanding the drugs. So that has given the cartels the money and power over the government. Until both sides decide to cut the head off the dragon this will only get worse.

[Dcrist0527]

Interesting choice of words. I don't recall anyone denying COVID just those that wanted to have a discussion on the fact that locking down the world for something that has a low death relate was the correct thing. Then when the vaccine was available that some didn't see the use on forcing it on society because it was not tested over enough time to prove its usefulness or what side affects it may have. Now almost 3 years later and what has happened with inflation and the effect on the poorest in the world I think most wouldn't do the same if we could go back in time.

I was living in Tijuana back when things were crazy but it wasn't as bad as the news portrayed, with this latest episode I can only feel for those in Tijuana and how people in some of the larger cities in the US feel now letting the criminals run the city because the leadership in charge don't know how to fight back.

In general the Zona is the safest area to visit if you are just going to the clubs and going back to the border. If you want to go thru life scared of everything then don't go in the ocean because you will be eaten by a shark, don't get on a plane because you will crash, don't drive your car because you are ruining the earth, don't eat meat because cows farts are ruining the earth and last of all don't go to Tijuana to have fun because some low life pretend tough guys are going to kill you.Spot on! But clearly to some, you either kneel at the altar of fear or you are a "denier." That's not a criticism of anyone in particular. It's more a commentary on the power of fear. And again, speaking generally, I find it interesting how fear permeates certain aspects of our monger culture. Long before Covid, going to Hong Kong had its own health risks. Most overlook the real STD risk when sleeping with working girls in a Mexican border town. Even the safest monger had to accept or overlook the risks. The difference now, at the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, is our media.

Tijuana has a reputation, rightfully so. But the fear does not match reality. In the last decade, how many innocent gringos were mowed down in the streets? It happens and awareness and information are vital. Likewise, how many mongers keeled over after catching Covid from a dancer? It's probably happened. But I can confirm there were 100 or so guys in the speakeasies nightly throughout the height of Covid. But the media makes us feel like the risk is FAR more than reality would prove.

Again, I'm not criticizing anyone's risk appetite. I'll be the first to admit that my risk tolerance is probably too high. But I am shocked by some of the opposite end of the spectrum when the nature of our monger culture is already very risky, even for the safest activities. But what does get me irate is how we allow the media to lead people around with their fear mongering. Case in point: how many died in Tijuana Friday night? I've seen some mis-reported numbers on this board, confusing a Juarez incident with Tijuana. To read the news accounts, cartels were running rampant through the streets, killing indiscriminately. Reality: Friday night's homicide totals were well below an average night in Tijuana.

I'm just trying to say: balance the media hysteria (which comes from selling you news) with actual fact. Be judicious about accepting social media regurgitation. Be informed and then you can apply your risk appetite appropriately.

[LuvMexicanas]

I knew models that were kidnaped, had their toes broken and continually rapped till death.Curious who these models were. Could you elaborate on what happened?

[SeaBeeJoe]

So if a girl that you cared about called crying, alone and scared you wouldn't do anything to help. Seems odd coming from someone that served in the military as I always think you help those that cannot help themselves. I do agree with your point about Mexican citizens not being able to arm themselves, but I would say that many Mexican Nationals would blame more the US because we are the ones that are demanding the drugs. So that has given the cartels the money and power over the government. Until both sides decide to cut the head off the dragon this will only get worse.I don't have any girlfriends down in Tijuana and definitely no hooker ones. But hey enjoy, in the military I was armed and down there you can even carry a knife. You go be a tough guy Rambo with the cartels and I will chill out up in the USA with my gun collection. If the Cartels try to do shit up here most residents are armed an ready to defend ourselves. Have a nice day.

[Travv]

Tijuana (Border Report) Two journalists south of the border uncovered a shocking trend while investigating the homeless and fentanyl use: Drug cartels are widely producing fentanyl in the nooks and drains within the Tijuana River canal just south of the border, and the homeless are being used as human Guinea pigs to test the drug's potency, which has left many taking part in these experiments dead.

Journalist Manuel Ayala and photographer Joebeth Terriquez witnessed distributors driving up and giving away fentanyl to the homeless people along the banks of the canal.

The drug is a synthetic pain killer said to be 50 to 100 times stronger than morphine. When mixed with heroin, as most of the homeless do according to Ayala, it is said to induce a very powerful high. . .

Comment: Makes sense. You don't want to kill your paying customers with bad fentanyl so you give away free samples to homeless druggies to check. . .

Suggest any readers here not pose as homeless druggies in order to get free fentanyl injections. This should go without saying, but there's always someone trying to score freebies!

[MadMan19]

The news love to exaggerate and make things sound worse than they actually are. Friday night, 5 taxis got burned blocking traffic; that's it, nothing else happened, no people killed, no broken heads, or anything violent against citizens.

By Saturday we were doing business as usual and the border is always open, 7/24, rain or shine.

This from a helpful person at cumintj.com this morning.

[Sol12]

Spot on! But clearly to some, you either kneel at the altar of fear or you are a "denier." That's not a criticism of anyone in particular. It's more a commentary on the power of fear. And again, speaking generally, I find it interesting how fear permeates certain aspects of our monger culture. Long before Covid, going to Hong Kong had its own health risks. Most overlook the real STD risk when sleeping with working girls in a Mexican border town. Even the safest monger had to accept or overlook the risks. The difference now, at the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, is our media.

Tijuana has a reputation, rightfully so. But the fear does not match reality. In the last decade, how many innocent gringos were mowed down in the streets? It happens and awareness and information are vital. Likewise, how many mongers keeled over after catching Covid from a dancer? It's probably happened. But I can confirm there were 100 or so guys in the speakeasies nightly throughout the height of Covid. But the media makes us feel like the risk is FAR more than reality would prove.

Again, I'm not criticizing anyone's risk appetite. I'll be the first to admit that my risk tolerance is probably too high. But I am shocked by some of the opposite end of the spectrum when the nature of our monger culture is already very risky, even for the safest activities. But what does get me irate is how we allow the media to lead people around with their fear mongering..I always thought of those that spent much time in Tijuana knew how over dramatic the medias makes it out to be and those with real knowledge of how it is know it is all hype. So like you it confused me that they don't use this same logic when they see other things that the media talks about.

[Sol12]

I don't have any girlfriends down in Tijuana and definitely no hooker ones. But hey enjoy, in the military I was armed and down there you can even carry a knife. You go be a tough guy Rambo with the cartels and I will chill out up in the USA with my gun collection. If the Cartels try to do shit up here most residents are armed an ready to defend ourselves. Have a nice day.It was a hypothetical question and being that you were previously married to a girl in Tijuana I would imagine back in a time that you were in love if she called you and was scared that you would do your best to go be by her side.

I'm definitely not trying to pretend to be some tough guy but I get irritated by people trying to control me. Where does it stop? It goes back to nature and are fight or flight instincts. Another example I would give is after 9/11 I'm sure those in New York had some hesitation to go back to normal but had that happened then the terrorists would have really won. So some went back to doing the things as normal and others followed because most people just follow what others do. So if all of Tijuana or Mexico in general doesn't stand up to the Cartels they will take over more. I remember reading a story that in Michoacán that some regular citizens have joined together to fight back against the Cartels. Now in that part of Mexico the Cartels are much more powerful, so who knows how successful they will be but at least they aren't slaves to the Cartels.

[DonCarlos1234]

Curious who these models were. Could you elaborate on what happened?During the days of Expo Eeotica. Worked a booth there for Screaming O. All the clubs, many resorts and adult products were there. Hjktj was there. She met a cartel member. Liked the "danger" aspect, deluded into hanging out with them. Now dead. Was not the only girl who danced with the devil. A lot of them do. They like the drugs & the $.

[Jackie888]

I hear that Tijuana security was just reinforced by a battalion of airborne or special forces. That's a lot for short notice, so maybe only 1 or 2 conpanies?

[Captain Solo]

Don Carlos,

You probably know more the most evil crimes in Mexico that most mongers don't.

A few years back, Tijuana papers ran pictures of a girl raped, her vagina mutilated and cut wide open in a big pool of blood on Rosarito beach.

There are lots of violence and savageries in Mexico. Not sure there are any quick, easy fixes.

[Travv]

I somehow have difficulty imaging the Saudis or Red Chinese not solving the crime problem in Mexico within a year or two. Heard the Chinese method of executing criminals in ambulance vans then the police selling their kidneys for $60,000 motivates the police and politicians to clean up the streets from criminals to get their share of the cash. All the Saudis would need is a public park in every city and a headsman with a sword. . . Guessing his arm would be getting really tired in some cities in Mexico. Dawn to dusk executions. Not much crime in Saudi Arabia I've heard. Chinese crime fighting methods would make the Mexican police and politicians rich quick from harvesting body parts from criminals for sale.


Don Carlos,

You probably know more the most evil crimes in Mexico that most mongers don't.

A few years back, Tijuana papers ran pictures of a girl raped, her vagina mutilated and cut wide open in a big pool of blood on Rosarito beach.

There are lots of violence and savageries in Mexico. Not sure there are any quick, easy fixes.

[Captain Solo]

Cartels, likely CJNG, started attacking civilians, burning cars, blocking roads, holding Tijuana and other border cities hostage. They demand the government release their leaders, presumably El Mencho's wife. They imposed curfew and are holding the entire cities hostage.

Tijuana's mayor was desperate, pleading with cartels to collect debts among themselves and leave civilians alone. But the debts are now with the government for arresting their leaders.

In official news, 3,000 Army and Guardia Nationale troops were sent to Tijuana to reinforce 2,000 troops and policias already in place. It's a massive mobilization with troops, heavy armament, armored vehicles ect for a full-scale war, enough to completely obliterate the entire city. But the cartel is fighting an asymmetric, guerrilla war, burning cars, blocking roads, intimidating the population. Not sure regular troops can catch or kill any cartel members and its leaders. They are unlikely to hide in Tijuana.

War will kill a lot of people and destroy lots of properties. Good investigative and undercover policias work may be more effective. Looks like Mexico knows who and where cartels' leaders are, how they produce drugs and hide their money. The government just have to be serious about doing the right things to enforce the laws.

[WombatEd2]

I somehow have difficulty imaging the Saudis or Red Chinese not solving the crime problem in Mexico within a year or two. Heard the Chinese method of executing criminals in ambulance vans then the police selling their kidneys for $60,000 motivates the police and politicians to clean up the streets from criminals to get their share of the cash. All the Saudis would need is a public park in every city and a headsman with a sword. . . Guessing his arm would be getting really tired in some cities in Mexico. Dawn to dusk executions. Not much crime in Saudi Arabia I've heard. Chinese crime fighting methods would make the Mexican police and politicians rich quick from harvesting body parts from criminals for sale.Hitler's methods were similarly efficient.

[Travv]

The Saudis and Red Chinese have chosen to punish the criminals instead of letting the criminals form massive gangs and rule the roost and victimize the innocent public, as in Mexico. If the criminals are afraid of being punished, so much the better if it saves an innocent person from being attacked. The recidivism rate of criminals is approximately zero in Saudi Arabia and China. Hard to commit more crimes if you have been executed. Mexico could not go wrong with putting Duterte or Alberto Fujimori in charge. No hugs for criminals from these strong leaders with a proven track record of getting criminals and terrorists under control in order to protect the public.


Hitler's methods were similarly efficient.

[TjBrazil]

During the days of Expo Eeotica. Worked a booth there for Screaming O. All the clubs, many resorts and adult products were there. Hjktj was there. She met a cartel member. Liked the "danger" aspect, deluded into hanging out with them. Now dead. Was not the only girl who danced with the devil. A lot of them do. They like the drugs & the $.I remember many years ago a girl in Chicago club told me her friend was killed by the cartel. They offered her 1000 to come to their house. She didn't think anything would happen since they were rich. They had sex with her all night and then slashed her throat when they were done. We need to build 2 walls around the border to keep these savages out.

[Phordphan]

Hitler's methods were similarly efficient.Congrats, Ed. You win the Reductio ad Hitlerum award for playing the Nazi card the quickest.

[Phordphan]

The Saudis and Red Chinese have chosen to punish the criminals instead of letting the criminals form massive gangs and rule the roost and victimize the innocent public, as in Mexico. If the criminals are afraid of being punished, so much the better if it saves an innocent person from being attacked. The recidivism rate of criminals is approximately zero in Saudi Arabia and China. Hard to commit more crimes if you have been executed. Mexico could not go wrong with putting Duterte or Alberto Fujimori in charge. No hugs for criminals from these strong leaders with a proven track record of getting criminals and terrorists under control in order to protect the public.You're probably right, but there is no "non-corrupt" institution in Mexico that could be an effective incorruptible dictator. The politicians mostly "rule" with the permission of the cartels. The various police departments are equally corrupt. I'm not sure the military is beyond corruption.

But, for the sake of argument, let's say we could install a Pinochet. He couldn't personally do all the dirty work, he'd need some form of muscle. Could he raise, equip, train, etc. , such a force? Would it be effective against the cartels with their practically unlimited budget and tacit assistance from the USA and probably other Western countries? I refuse to believe that there isn't a ton of American government employees on the cartels' payroll, to one degree of another. And imagine the problems Uncle Sam would have if our Pinochet were successful. Loads and loads of American drug users, both street addicts and upscale recreational, would be deprived. I suspect this would result in panic in the streets. The appetite for drugs in this country is so strong, I suspect we'd be knocking on Mexico's door begging them to reinstate at least one or two cartels.

But what do I know?

[DonCarlos1234]

Cartels, likely CJNG, started attacking civilians, burning cars, blocking roads, holding Tijuana and other border cities hostage. They demand the government release their leaders, presumably El Mencho's wife. They imposed curfew and are holding the entire cities hostage.

Tijuana's mayor was desperate, pleading with cartels to collect debts among themselves and leave civilians alone. But the debts are now with the government for arresting their leaders.

In official news, 3,000 Army and Guardia Nationale troops were sent to Tijuana to reinforce 2,000 troops and policias already in place. It's a massive mobilization with troops, heavy armament, armored vehicles ect for a full-scale war, enough to completely obliterate the entire city. But the cartel is fighting an asymmetric, guerrilla war, burning cars, blocking roads, intimidating the population. Not sure regular troops can catch or kill any cartel members and its leaders. They are unlikely to hide in Tijuana.

War will kill a lot of people and destroy lots of properties. Good investigative and undercover policias work may be more effective. Looks like Mexico knows who and where cartels' leaders are, how they produce drugs and hide their money. The government just have to be serious about doing the right things to enforce the laws.I consider MX my 2nd home. I love it, the people. The beaches. A lot of things (too many gringos however) In spite of many incidents I continue to visit. LEGALISING drugs and giving licenses to sell drugs legitimately to cartel members and people in prison will end all this. Try it in one city first. LOL More tax revenue! That government officials can steal the tax revenues like they already do and the MX people can live peaceably. I hate admitting this but the danger does add to the allure of MX. And keeps prices down. If this keeps up a lot of the new SoCal settlers will leave.

[Dogers69]

I consider MX my 2nd home. I love it, the people. The beaches. A lot of things (too many gringos however) In spite of many incidents I continue to visit. LEGALISING drugs and giving licenses to sell drugs legitimately to cartel members and people in prison will end all this. Try it in one city first. LOL More tax revenue! That government officials can steal the tax revenues like they already do and the MX people can live peaceably. I hate admitting this but the danger does add to the allure of MX. And keeps prices down. If this keeps up a lot of the new SoCal settlers will leave.Yeah I've always been saying the danger in Mexico and Tijuana is the only thing keeping it from turning into west coasts Florida. But the Tijuana population skyrocketed anyway with its own citizens to the point its 2nd biggest city in Mexico. I used to view Tijuana as some outpost that nobody likes or visits, like Buffalo NY or San Isidro. But now it's the 2nd biggest city. The problem with the cartel really isn't the drugs. They have their hands in every business from what I understand. People talk about cartel "drug" wars. These guys are fighting for every business in Mexico. That's why I say they run he country. The drugs are just 1 aspect of their operation. Everybody has to respect them and do what they want or they disappear. To me that's running the country.

[DonCarlos1234]

You're probably right, but there is no "non-corrupt" institution in Mexico that could be an effective incorruptible dictator. The politicians mostly "rule" with the permission of the cartels. The various police departments are equally corrupt. I'm not sure the military is beyond corruption.

But, for the sake of argument, let's say we could install a Pinochet. He couldn't personally do all the dirty work, he'd need some form of muscle.

But what do I know?Who needs "incorruptible" I believe that citizen "vigilantes" were allowed to "off" drug dealers. No questions asked. https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/19/philippines-duterte-incites-vigilante-violence. I am sure a lot of street criminals were also victims. Not a civilized solution. In fact I witnessed a man shot in the back ally below HK by one of the dealers. Trying to run away.

[Phordphan]

I consider MX my 2nd home. I love it, the people. The beaches. A lot of things (too many gringos however) In spite of many incidents I continue to visit. LEGALISING drugs and giving licenses to sell drugs legitimately to cartel members and people in prison will end all this. Try it in one city first. LOL More tax revenue! That government officials can steal the tax revenues like they already do and the MX people can live peaceably. I hate admitting this but the danger does add to the allure of MX. And keeps prices down. If this keeps up a lot of the new SoCal settlers will leave.That will do nothing about their number one, most profitable market. The USA. The profits from legally selling drugs in Mexico would pale next to the profits from illegally smuggling drugs into the USA. And the Mexican gov't would be hard pressed to tax that income.

[Phordphan]

Who needs "incorruptible" I believe that citizen "vigilantes" were allowed to "off" drug dealers. No questions asked. https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/19/philippines-duterte-incites-vigilante-violence. I am sure a lot of street criminals were also victims. Not a civilized solution. In fact I witnessed a man shot in the back ally below HK by one of the dealers. Trying to run away.At that point you no longer have a functioning society, but simple anarchy. If anybody can shoot down anybody else, no questions asked, then you may as well fold up the flag and turn out the lights. You now have the law of the jungle. At least a ruthless dictator represents some form of civilized government.

[WombatEd2]

Congrats, Ed. You win the Reductio ad Hitlerum award for playing the Nazi card the quickest.Actually, I think Travv gets the credit for that one. Perhaps it was a bit too subtle for you.

[Travv]

Two major vigilante groups operated in San Francisco, California, one occurring in 1851 and the other in 1856, both of which arose during the California Gold Rush in response to avid crime, government corruption, and prejudice against the immigrants. These two militia-style groups lynched 12 people, kidnapped hundreds of others, and forced several elected officials to resign. Each Committee of Vigilance formally relinquished power after deciding the city had been "cleaned up. ".

. . When the young city was incapable of handling the disorder and mayhem on what began to be called the "Barbary Coast," San Francisco merchants established the "Committee of Vigilance" in 1851. Meeting in secret, the 700-member group drew up bylaws. It soon announced that San Francisco's elected government was incapable of protecting the life and property of the city's citizens and claimed that role for itself.

The committee, believing that Australian immigrants were responsible for much of the city's crime, immediately began to prevent them from landing in San Francisco and deporting more than two dozen others. Their justice was swift and sure, hanging four men accused of murder. Word of their deeds of lynching and excommunicating criminals spread fast, and San Francisco's crime rate declined rapidly. Their unprecedented success made them heroes throughout the west, spawning vigilante groups in numerous other locations. Their mission was complete; the first organized group of San Francisco was formally disbanded by the end of 1852. Law enforcement returned to the elected authorities, all of which just happened to be former committee members.

1856 Vigilantes – In 1856, San Francisco was entirely under the control of its famous Vigilance Committee, a determined band of citizens that held the city under firm rule. When the Vigilance Committee was formed, the conditions of the city's outgrowth had caused widespread municipal corruption by a gang of organized political plunderers. Operating in their own individual best interests, the city government held control of San Francisco at the expense of the honest and respectable citizens of the city. . .

Full article: https://www.legendsofamerica.com/sanfrancisco-vigilantes/.


Who needs "incorruptible" I believe that citizen "vigilantes" were allowed to "off" drug dealers. No questions asked. https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/19/philippines-duterte-incites-vigilante-violence. I am sure a lot of street criminals were also victims. Not a civilized solution. In fact I witnessed a man shot in the back ally below HK by one of the dealers. Trying to run away.

[Cocr Brotheler]

War Zones, Conflict Zones etc. Very very very good for desperate women seeking stability whether it P4 P, marriage / partnerships.

If Tijuana total bliss peaceful heaven on earth then no good sexy times there!

"Yeah I've always been saying the danger in Mexico and Tijuana is the only thing keeping it from turning into west coasts Florida." Exacto! We need wars/conflicts etc. to keep the P4P prices reasonable. :)

[Captain Solo]

Travv may have good final solutions for homeless meth heads and drugs addicts camping out, taking over cities, doing crimes in San Francisco, LOS Angeles, San Diego.

Will vote for him for the governor job. He also has the mandate to bring in tens thousand hot, horny young girls who would do sex for free.


Two major vigilante groups operated in San Francisco, California, one occurring in 1851 and the other in 1856, both of which arose during the California Gold Rush in response to avid crime, government corruption, and prejudice against the immigrants. These two militia-style groups lynched 12 people, kidnapped hundreds of others, and forced several elected officials to resign. Each Committee of Vigilance formally relinquished power after deciding the city had been "cleaned up. ".

. . When the young city was incapable of handling the disorder and mayhem on what began to be called the "Barbary Coast," San Francisco merchants established the "Committee of Vigilance" in 1851. Meeting in secret, the 700-member group drew up bylaws. It soon announced that San Francisco's elected government was incapable of protecting the life and property of the city's citizens and claimed that role for itself.

The committee, believing that Australian immigrants were responsible for much of the city's crime, immediately began to prevent them from landing in San Francisco and deporting more than two dozen others. Their justice was swift and sure, hanging four men accused of murder. Word of their deeds of lynching and excommunicating criminals spread fast, and San Francisco's crime rate declined rapidly. Their unprecedented success made them heroes throughout the west, spawning vigilante groups in numerous other locations. Their mission was complete; the first organized group of San Francisco was formally disbanded by the end of 1852. Law enforcement returned to the elected authorities, all of which just happened to be former committee members.

1856 Vigilantes In 1856, San Francisco was entirely under the control of its famous Vigilance Committee, a determined band of citizens that held the city under firm rule. When the Vigilance Committee was formed, the conditions of the city's outgrowth had caused widespread municipal corruption by a gang of organized political plunderers. Operating in their own individual best interests, the city government held control of San Francisco at the expense of the honest and respectable citizens of the city. . .

Full article: https://www.legendsofamerica.com/sanfrancisco-vigilantes/.

[DonCarlos1234]

That will do nothing about their number one, most profitable market. The USA. The profits from legally selling drugs in Mexico would pale next to the profits from illegally smuggling drugs into the USA. And the Mexican gov't would be hard pressed to tax that income.That will do nothing about their number one, most profitable market. The USA. The profits from legally selling drugs in Mexico would pale next to the profits.

I claim only a possible solution, let those addicts just come buy their goods in Mexico. (adding legal delivery services / runners. Think Uber for drugs. Decreased prices (less transportation loss) . They already keep thousands of pharmacy's. Busy. Any new idea takes time.

[LuvMexicanas]

That will do nothing about their number one, most profitable market. The USA. The profits from legally selling drugs in Mexico would pale next to the profits.

I claim only a possible solution, let those addicts just come buy their goods in Mexico. (adding legal delivery services / runners. Think Uber for drugs. Decreased prices (less transportation loss) . They already keep thousands of pharmacy's. Busy. Any new idea takes time.New York is really far from Mexico so is Chicago, Detroit, Boston, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Seattle and the list goes on and on of cities full of addicts who can't just magically come buy their shit in Mexico.

[Captain Solo]

Cartels don't have to get into any business, invest in or run them. Their hitmen just have to show their guns and knives, torture and murder a few people as warnings then skim off the cash from businesses, in effect taxing every business in Mexico. Even street vendors have to pay cartels' protection tax. Lucrative bars like HK have been paying cartels heavy taxes for protection. In reality, the cartels are running the whole country of Mexico and her people, taxing them heavily while the government has not been able to collect much taxes for its operation.

In the news recently, Sinaloa cartel allegedly ratted out CJNG and its LOS Erres operatives for a shipment of drugs and a meeting of their leaders. Policias busted the shipment and arrested them, handed the leader to Sinaloa cartel. The guy was found with signs of torture with his head chopped off. CJNG is pissed off at the government and of course, their competitor, Sinaloa cartel, and ordered violence ni multiple municipalities to demand their releases.

Cartels have money, manpower and massive firepower in a power struggle against a weak, ineffective, unreliable government corrupt at all levels, vastly distrusted by its population. Violence will escalate until one side clearly wins the war. I hate to predict which side will win.

The US should eradicate demands for drugs by penalizing and cleaning up her drug users population and severely punishing drug dealers. Isolate drug users from the population and make them work to produce their own food until they give up drugs.

[Jackie888]

In every organization, there is a brains group, and there is a muscle group that does the enforcement. What scares me most about Mexico is that the local police is often the enforcement arm of its local Cartel. So the police is the cartel in many regions of Mexico. While they may be called the police, they take orders and wage war under the orders of their cartels.

This is why years ago when the Military went into Tijuana to fight the Tijuana Cartel, the first thing that the military did was to disarm the Tijuana police. And while the Tijuana police protested and griped, the military basically told the Tijuana police to go fuck themselves because they were really cartel.

Frankly, I think that we can debate a possible solution for weeks, but when we factor reality into our solutions, we will end up with a solution that is the current status. Yeah people can find a perfect solution, but who are we convince to enforce that solution? The police who is really part of the cartel?

[Captain Solo]

The good news is, Colombia once wrecked by violence and terrorism by drug cartels and guys like Pablo Escobar, eventually won over, eliminated the violent cartels and restored law and order to the country. The US gov and DEA / CIA were players in that struggle. The country is still heavily involving in drugs production and trafficking, but at least violence has subsided and the government seems to have control.

Mexico should learn lessons from Colombia.

El Capitan is available as a consultant for long-term research programs of problems and solutions in both Mexico and Colombia, especially in major locations like Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena. Food is so bad in Colombia, good for those who want to lose weight. Ship all US women to Colombia for a year for them to lose weight and learn how to be sexy and attractive.

[DramaFree11]

Cartels don't have to get into any business, invest in or run them. Their hitmen just have to show their guns and knives, torture and murder a few people as warnings then skim off the cash from businesses, in effect taxing every business in Mexico. Even street vendors have to pay cartels' protection tax. Lucrative bars like HK have been paying cartels heavy taxes for protection. In reality, the cartels are running the whole country of Mexico and her people, taxing them heavily while the government has not been able to collect much taxes for its operation.

In the news recently, Sinaloa cartel allegedly ratted out CJNG and its LOS Erres operatives for a shipment of drugs and a meeting of their leaders. Policias busted the shipment and arrested them, handed the leader to Sinaloa cartel. The guy was found with signs of torture with his head chopped off. CJNG is pissed off at the government and of course, their competitor, Sinaloa cartel, and ordered violence ni multiple municipalities to demand their releases.

Cartels have money, manpower and massive firepower in a power struggle against a weak, ineffective, unreliable government corrupt at all levels, vastly distrusted by its population. Violence will escalate until one side clearly wins the war. I hate to predict which side will win.

The US should eradicate demands for drugs by penalizing and cleaning up her drug users population and severely punishing drug dealers. Isolate drug users from the population and make them work to produce their own food until they give up drugs.Until the demand dries up in America, the Cartels will continue to thrive. Hopefully America will reach a tipping point and realize that drugs are bad and there should be zero tolerance, the problem is out of control and is getting worse by the day.

I wish legalizing drugs will solve the problem, but it will only make the problem worse. Unfortunately things will get worse before better.

[SeaBeeJoe]

It was a hypothetical question and being that you were previously married to a girl in Tijuana I would imagine back in a time that you were in love if she called you and was scared that you would do your best to go be by her side.
I'm definitely not trying to pretend to be some tough guy but I get irritated by people trying to control me. Where does it stop? It goes back to nature and are fight or flight instincts. Another example I would give is after 9/11 I'm sure those in New York had some hesitation to go back to normal but had that happened then the terrorists would have really won. So some went back to doing the things as normal and others followed because most people just follow what others do. So if all of Tijuana or Mexico in general doesn't stand up to the Cartels they will take over more. I remember reading a story that in Michoacán that some regular citizens have joined together to fight back against the Cartels. Now in that part of Mexico the Cartels are much more powerful, so who knows how successful they will be but at least they aren't slaves to the Cartels.No man you didn't strike anything and you weren't the original poster it is Marksofmagic who talked about his friend in Tijuana hunkering down with his girl sheltering in place. Look it get it people do stupid shit for love, lack of common sense and all that. Hypothetically I would never involve myself romantically anymore to a working girl, too much drama and who know who their associates are not to mention other johns. Anyways you seem like a person who likes to cause drama and post Hypothetical ideas. Common Sense if someplace is a dangerous stay the fuck out of there until it calms down, if you have loved ones there then advice them to shelter in place for get the fuck out too. Not too difficult to figure out Hypothetically speaking that is. "So if all of Tijuana or Mexico in general doesn't stand up to the Cartels they will take over more". I agree but the average citizen can't defend themselves, they aren't allowed to carry firearms for personal protection. Unless you in the military, police, politician, or wealthy LOL. Here is a link to their constitution on Gun Rights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico#text=Constitutional%20 rights,-Three%20 major%20 events&text=(translation)%20 Article%2010%3 A%20 Every, those%20 who%20 would%20 carry%20 them. Unless the Mexican Government is willing to change and allow their citizen to arm and defend themselves they will always be victims to the cartels. That and getting rid of the deep corruption in their federal and local governments. But this is all Hypothetical.

[Phordphan]

That will do nothing about their number one, most profitable market. The USA. The profits from legally selling drugs in Mexico would pale next to the profits.

I claim only a possible solution, let those addicts just come buy their goods in Mexico. (adding legal delivery services / runners. Think Uber for drugs. Decreased prices (less transportation loss) . They already keep thousands of pharmacy's. Busy. Any new idea takes time.Don't you think the Mexicans would take umbrage when the USA started sending all its addicts into Mexico to buy drugs?

Of course you have to look no farther than San Francisco, and their open air drug market, to see what a success free and open drug business has been. It's been so successful that even the lunatics in Frisco are now going to shut it down sometime near the end of the year.

[SeaBeeJoe]

Cartels don't have to get into any business, invest in or run them. Their hitmen just have to show their guns and knives, torture and murder a few people as warnings then skim off the cash from businesses, in effect taxing every business in Mexico. Even street vendors have to pay cartels' protection tax. Lucrative bars like HK have been paying cartels heavy taxes for protection. In reality, the cartels are running the whole country of Mexico and her people, taxing them heavily while the government has not been able to collect much taxes for its operation.

In the news recently, Sinaloa cartel allegedly ratted out CJNG and its LOS Erres operatives for a shipment of drugs and a meeting of their leaders. Policias busted the shipment and arrested them, handed the leader to Sinaloa cartel. The guy was found with signs of torture with his head chopped off. CJNG is pissed off at the government and of course, their competitor, Sinaloa cartel, and ordered violence ni multiple municipalities to demand their releases.

Cartels have money, manpower and massive firepower in a power struggle against a weak, ineffective, unreliable government corrupt at all levels, vastly distrusted by its population. Violence will escalate until one side clearly wins the war. I hate to predict which side will win.

The US should eradicate demands for drugs by penalizing and cleaning up her drug users population and severely punishing drug dealers. Isolate drug users from the population and make them work to produce their own food until they give up drugs.Illegal drugs is a multi billion dollar industry that cost us 100,000 lives just ij opiod deaths. The Cartels exsist to supply the drug demand of the United States. So in a way we caused all this dwath and destruction by proxy.

[WombatEd2]

Until the demand dries up in America, the Cartels will continue to thrive. Hopefully America will reach a tipping point and realize that drugs are bad and there should be zero tolerance, the problem is out of control and is getting worse by the day.


The US should eradicate demands for drugs by penalizing and cleaning up her drug users population and severely punishing drug dealers. Isolate drug users from the population and make them work to produce their own food until they give up drugs.I can't believe you guys are still hoping to win the "War on Drugs". That war is over, and the Drugs have won.

Look how Portugal has actually solved the problem. They stopped treating addiction as a crime and started treating it as a disease. And that has actually worked.

[Captain Solo]

Since meth and fentanyl can be produced cheaply and sold for little on the streets, cartels have found thriving domestic demands for their drugs. Don't know how many percent of the drugs are consumed in Mexico vs US, but Mexico seems to have lots of addicts and a huge drug problem.

Cartels are no longer just screwing gringos while making profit, they are screwing Mexico and her people. Soon a very high percentage of Mexico's population will be hooked on drugs and not producing. Mexico's socio economic system will collapse far worse. There will be a lot more crimes among users and sellers of drugs and massive social unrest.

[DramaFree11]

I can't believe you guys are still hoping to win the "War on Drugs". That war is over, and the Drugs have won.

Look how Portugal has actually solved the problem. They stopped treating addiction as a crime and started treating it as a disease. And that has actually worked.Nobody is winning, countless lives are being lost. Legalizing drugs is not working. I wish it was that easy.

[Ctytek]

I can't believe you guys are still hoping to win the "War on Drugs". That war is over, and the Drugs have won.

Look how Portugal has actually solved the problem. They stopped treating addiction as a crime and started treating it as a disease. And that has actually worked.Seriously rights? 40 years later, trillions of dollars wasted and millions of lives incarcerated or wasted. And some of these morons still talk about "zero tolerance" and "increased penalties" nonsense. Drugs will never be eliminated. Just like sex work. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it and live with it. That's the only way.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Exacto CB Joe! I long argue that without the Cartels longstanding penetration (non-sexual) into the USA the demand would not have been there. Classic chicken and egg story however at least 50/50 that cartels caused all this in the USA.

Without the Demand there isn't the Supply however also without the Supply there isn't the Demand....

Also it was great talking to you over MDW, sorry I could not meet up.

[DonCarlos1234]

I can't believe you guys are still hoping to win the "War on Drugs". That war is over, and the Drugs have won.

Look how Portugal has actually solved the problem. They stopped treating addiction as a crime and started treating it as a disease. And that has actually worked.Depends. "legal" purchases of weed. $4 Billion in California $1 billion Nevada. ALL lost sales to MX cartels. So they switched to street drugs, crystal etc. Mostly in MX.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/california-marijuana-tax-revenue-nears-4-billion-but-growth-has-stalled-state-analysts-say/#text=California%20 collected%20 about%20%24817%20 million, in%20 the%202020%2 D2021%20 period.

Decriminalization countries: They should do this in BAJA ASAP https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/publications/quiet-revolution-drug-decriminalisation-policies-practice-across-globe.

There are some insightful thoughts / postings here. Keep it up.

[Phordphan]

The problem with legalization (which I am in favor of, at least in theory) is that the horrible behavior that comes with drug addiction has already been normalized in our society. So, now, if drugs are legal, and some ******* shoots up in the street, it's OK. If he's high and wanders down the street crapping his pants and howling at the moon, it's OK. Nobody will do anything. And there's no longer a threat of jail for using or selling. Now you have a society that is overrun with addicts, ruining everybody else's lives. Don't believe me? Look at San Fran and LA and Seattle and Portland. Do we all want to live in such shitholes? If you could force all of that garbage off the streets and behind closed doors, then I'm all for anybody putting anything into their body that they wish. But if I have to pay, both in money and in degradation of quality of life, then I'm adamantly opposed!

[WombatEd2]

if drugs are legal, and some ******* shoots up in the street, it's OK. If he's high and wanders down the street crapping his pants and howling at the moon,And you think continuing to wage the war on drugs will prevent this?


there's no longer a threat of jail for using or selling. Now you have a society that is overrun with addicts, ruining everybody else's lives. Don't believe me? Look at San Fran and LA and Seattle and Portland.So you think the threat of jail will in any way diminish addicts' behavior?

At the risk of repeating myself, take a look around the world. Some countries are doing a lot better than we are, simply by treating the issue as a health problem, verses a criminal problem.

[Phordphan]

And you think continuing to wage the war on drugs will prevent this?

So you think the threat of jail will in any way diminish addicts' behavior?

At the risk of repeating myself, take a look around the world. Some countries are doing a lot better than we are, simply by treating the issue as a health problem, verses a criminal problem.I didn't say the war on drugs was effective. I said that legalization doesn't seem to work, either, given how we currently treat drug addicts.

Actually, I have read that the threat of jail time did diminish certain behavior. It also often served to "dry out" some of the addicts. It also served to force some into rehab instead of going to jail. So, it's not a perfect solution, but addicts nodding off on the street corner and sleeping in tents all over downtown is hardly a better one.

We currently have treatment programs and housing for a great many of the so-called homeless. But they are not forced to take it. Most don't want it. Most are too effed up, or mentally ill, to make good choices. So, in some bastardized version of kindness, we let them roam the streets and taxpayers be damned. You can treat it as a health problem, sure. But if these people are not forced to accept the health treatment, then what? If their behavior is no longer illegal, and they won't enroll in the health treatment plans / facilities, then they are free to roam the street. That's the painful reality of legalization in today's political climate.

If you have a magic solution that will clean up our streets and wean these people off of drugs, we're all ears. LA has thrown somewhere around a Billion with a be dollars at the homeless problem and achieved exactly zero results, but massively expanded the bureaucracy. So, more tax money is not an option.

[Gregyyr]

The problem with legalization (which I am in favor of, at least in theory) is that the horrible behavior that comes with drug addiction has already been normalized in our society. So, now, if drugs are legal, and some ******* shoots up in the street, it's OK. If he's high and wanders down the street crapping his pants and howling at the moon, it's OK. Nobody will do anything. And there's no longer a threat of jail for using or selling. Now you have a society that is overrun with addicts, ruining everybody else's lives. Don't believe me? Look at San Fran and LA and Seattle and Portland. Do we all want to live in such shitholes? If you could force all of that garbage off the streets and behind closed doors, then I'm all for anybody putting anything into their body that they wish. But if I have to pay, both in money and in degradation of quality of life, then I'm adamantly opposed!Your guessing at what would happen is just a guess no? Are drugs legal in these other cities? Why not look at countries / cities in Europe that have legalized drugs. And treated the issue more of an additional medical issue and not criminal?

While it's not "perfect" where they have done this, it sounds like a better outcome than what we have done with our failed incarceration process. I am sure the private jail companies have loved having everyone locked up so I am sure they would be against legalization.

https://www.unaids.org/en/resources/presscentre/featurestories/2020/march/20200303_drugs#text=Czechia%2 C%20 the%20 Netherlands%2 C%20 Portugal%20 and, in%20 those%20 countries%20 are%20 low.

-G.

[Clone8884]

The problem with legalization (which I am in favor of, at least in theory) is that the horrible behavior that comes with drug addiction has already been normalized in our society. So, now, if drugs are legal, and some ******* shoots up in the street, it's OK. If he's high and wanders down the street crapping his pants and howling at the moon, it's OK. Nobody will do anything. And there's no longer a threat of jail for using or selling. Now you have a society that is overrun with addicts, ruining everybody else's lives. Don't believe me? Look at San Fran and LA and Seattle and Portland. Do we all want to live in such shitholes? If you could force all of that garbage off the streets and behind closed doors, then I'm all for anybody putting anything into their body that they wish. But if I have to pay, both in money and in degradation of quality of life, then I'm adamantly opposed!A big reason why so many drug addicts are homeless is because they do not have any help. Also the prices of drugs are very high since they are illegal. If drugs were legal, they would cost way less and people wouldn't need to commit nearly as much crime to buy them. Most alcoholics aren't burglarizing, it is mainly heroin and cocaine addicts. Alcohol is very cheap.

[AmericanPi]

A big reason why so many drug addicts are homeless is because they do not have any help. Also the prices of drugs are very high since they are illegal. If drugs were legal, they would cost way less and people wouldn't need to commit nearly as much crime to buy them. Most alcoholics aren't burglarizing, it is mainly heroin and cocaine addicts. Alcohol is very cheap.Respectfully disagree. Look at what's happening in San Francisco. There's a de facto tolerance zone near city hall and all that's happened is that is is allowing people to die slowly, in public, cheaply and with government sanctioned indifference.

[Travv]

I have known a number of druggies who are homeless. Reason: They refuse to go to shelters because the shelters have rules banning the use of drugs or alcohol. They prefer to get high on the street from selling stolen and shoplifted merchandise. Back when there were vagrancy laws and the laws against theft were enforced, these types would be taken to farms and put to work bringing in the crops, instead of being allowed to roam and steal. Knew one guy who got caught stealing in Tennessee and he was sentenced to work on a cotton farm. Said he wouldn't steal again after sweating his azz off picking cotton.


A big reason why so many drug addicts are homeless is because they do not have any help. Also the prices of drugs are very high since they are illegal. If drugs were legal, they would cost way less and people wouldn't need to commit nearly as much crime to buy them. Most alcoholics aren't burglarizing, it is mainly heroin and cocaine addicts. Alcohol is very cheap.

[WombatEd2]

I said that legalization doesn't seem to work, Based on what evidence? AFAIK, nowhere in this country have they tried it. And it HAS worked well in countries that have tried it.


If you have a magic solution that will clean up our streets and wean these people off of drugs, we're all ears. LA has thrown somewhere around a Billion with a be dollars at the homeless problem and achieved exactly zero results, but massively expanded the bureaucracy. So, more tax money is not an option.No, legalization will NOT solve the homeless problem. Nor the mental illness problem. Nor will it stop the war in Ukraine, nor end global warming. Your antipathy towards the homeless and the mentally ill is unfortunate, but hardly relevant to the question of legalization.

What legalization will do is:

1. Take that income away from organized crime, thus reducing cartel violence.

2. Lower the price of drugs, thus reducing petty crimes committed to support the habit.

3. Allow us to tax the drugs, providing income for rehab programs, etc.

4. Standardize drug quality, reducing the risk of overdose.

5. Substantially reduce the amount taxpayers have to spend on prisons and the criminal justice system.

Here's a link to an article on the success of Portugal's decriminalization: https://time.com/longform/portugal-drug-use-decriminalization/.

[DramaFree11]

Based on what evidence? AFAIK, nowhere in this country have they tried it. And it HAS worked well in countries that have tried it.

No, legalization will NOT solve the homeless problem. Nor the mental illness problem. Nor will it stop the war in Ukraine, nor end global warming. Your antipathy towards the homeless and the mentally ill is unfortunate, but hardly relevant to the question of legalization.

What legalization will do is:

1. Take that income away from organized crime, thus reducing cartel violence.

2. Lower the price of drugs, thus reducing petty crimes committed to support the habit.

3. Allow us to tax the drugs, providing income for rehab programs, etc.

4. Standardize drug quality, reducing the risk of overdose.This will definitely not work. I wish legalizing drugs would solve the problem. Violence, Drug Addiction and homeless are out of control, unfortunately it will take some drastic steps to solve the problem.

[Sol12]

No man you didn't strike anything and you weren't the original poster it is Marksofmagic who talked about his friend in Tijuana hunkering down with his girl sheltering in place. Look it get it people do stupid shit for love, lack of common sense and all that. Hypothetically I would never involve myself romantically anymore to a working girl, too much drama and who know who their associates are not to mention other johns. Anyways you seem like a person who likes to cause drama and post Hypothetical ideas. Common Sense if someplace is a dangerous stay the fuck out of there until it calms down, if you have loved ones there then advice them to shelter in place for get the fuck out too. Not too difficult to figure out Hypothetically speaking that is. "So if all of Tijuana or Mexico in general doesn't stand up to the Cartels they will take over more". I agree but the average citizen can't defend themselves, they aren't allowed to carry firearms for personal protection. Unless you in the military, police, politician, or wealthy LOL. Here is a link to their constitution on Gun Rights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico#text=Constitutional%20 rights,-Three%20 major%20 events&text=(translation)%20 Article%2010%3 A%20 Every, those%20 who%20 would%20 carry%20 them. Unless the Mexican Government is willing to change and allow their citizen to arm and defend themselves they will always be victims to the cartels. That and getting rid of the deep corruption in their federal and local governments. But this is all Hypothetical.Yes I am aware that I wasn't the original poster, I responded to what you wrote about being afraid of the cartel and give into whatever they say. My point and others on this board who have spent a lot of time in Tijuana or have lived in Tijuana is that the news over reacts to everything and things are never as bad as they seem. Yes I think from most of the posts that you make on this board that you have no desire to do anything for a working girl because of your past failure.

It's interesting that you think I like to cause drama, I just have a much different experience with that world and like to give a different insight into what most of you have no idea about. Besides I'm not on this board looking for buddies or a slap on the back from saying how I got X, Y, or Z from some girl and I only paid her X. Which most on this board think that it's best to pay as little as possible and these girls should be grateful for whatever scraps we give them because they live in Mexico and don't need much. Which I always find interesting that some guy should tell some girl how much she should sell her services for. So if you think I like causing drama because I push back on some of the things that other posters make I can't argue with your point of view, but I really only push back on a small part of what I read because if I responded to all the dumb things said on here it would never end.

I mostly like reading about those that have gone to explore Tijuana beyond just the Zona and the stories of those that begin some sort of relationship with bar girls. The chances of it working out are slim, but as I always say just enjoy the ride and don't spend more money then you can afford.

Getting back to the part you mentioned about being dangerous and to stay away, as stated before the news over does it on the violence and the guy that did go to comfort the girl might have a lot of experience and figured the chance of something happening to him were slim, or he is clueless on what was really going on and figured if it was that bad that the border would be closed off. I just know that when I lived in Tijuana and this was going on it wasn't going to stop me from going home to my family. Yes the Cartels have guns but as most people in Tijuana know they don't go after civilian targets, the burning vehicles were stopped and the people told to get out and unharmed. So my point of the people getting together was that they can out number the cartel members but yes it takes a lot of courage and yes it could get ugly in the beginning but it's a price they will have to pay to be free. Yes the people aren't allowed to have fire arms but I'd be interested to know the number of normal let's say middle class residents in Tijuana that have a gun in their home or drive with one in their vehicle. I know of an old friend that claimed to drive with one in his car but who knows. I thought about it a few times living down there but didn't think the GF would allow it, besides one of her friends BF went to jail for a few years getting caught with one.

Hopefully things will get better in Mexico, I love the country and wouldn't hesitate on living there again, unfortunately sometimes things have reach the absolute bottom in order to climb back to the top.

I also hope you get to see other parts of Mexico and have better luck with non working girls. I think you visited MTY and saw a different part of Mexico and enjoyed it.

[Captain Solo]

It's ridiculous to talk about all drugs across the board. Which specific drugs are you talking about?

Meth is so addictive, fentanyl can be deadly. Meth heads would sell everything they have to buy meth, ending up living homeless on the streets. Make it easy to buy and lots more people will be hooked on it, living on the streets; civilization will collapse.

Legalized or not, the cartels will always find ways to produce and sell drugs that are more potent, more addictive and cheaper, and of course murdering competition, blowing up cities for control. Legalizing drugs will never stop the illegal drugs trade and organized crimes that profit on them.

Addictive and dangerous drugs should be controlled like poisons. Organized crimes should be fought and eradicated for any crimes besides drugs.

[TjBrazil]

I was friends with a guy from work who went from having his shit together to losing everything to drugs. Ended up unemployable and then homeless and then died under a bridge overpass. I personally have only done pot so have never tried hard drugs, but what is it about hard drugs that it can't be done recreationaly without destroying your life. Can someone in the know please explain.

[DonCarlos1234]

Hopefully things will get better in Mexico, I love the country and wouldn't hesitate on living there again, unfortunately sometimes things have reach the absolute bottom in order to climb back to the top.

I also hope you get to see other parts of Mexico and have better luck with non working girls. I think you visited MTY and saw a different part of Mexico and enjoyed it.Back in 2008 I was living in Rosarito. There was a military installation en route to the "scenic toll road" just before the Tijuana Beach exit. Soldiers had armored vehicles with cannon aimed at the vehicles passing by. Massive kidnappings, violence shut down tourism all over Baja. The Rosarito police station was attacked by the cartels. I stayed for 6 years. Rosariro was almost a ghost town. The beaches were empty even in the summer. 14 years later thousands of SoCal residents are settling all over there. Parking by the beach? Good luck! LOL I spoke with a Tijuana friend today. He said the MX people in his neighborhood are afraid to go outside (today) and he thinks the Americans will start leaving again. Time will tell if history repeats: https://www.seattletimes.com/life/travel/crime-wary-americans-shun-some-mexico-beaches/ IF anyone on this board currently lives there, please update what you are seeing.

[Sol12]

Back in 2008 I was living in Rosarito. There was a military installation en route to the "scenic toll road" just before the Tijuana Beach exit. Soldiers had armored vehicles with cannon aimed at the vehicles passing by. Massive kidnappings, violence shut down tourism all over Baja. The Rosarito police station was attacked by the cartels. I stayed for 6 years. Rosariro was almost a ghost town. The beaches were empty even in the summer. 14 years later thousands of SoCal residents are settling all over there. Parking by the beach? Good luck! LOL I spoke with a Tijuana friend today. He said the MX people in his neighborhood are afraid to go outside (today) and he thinks the Americans will start leaving again. Time will tell if history repeats: https://www.seattletimes.com/life/travel/crime-wary-americans-shun-some-mexico-beaches/ IF anyone on this board currently lives there, please update what you are seeing.Seems like we were living in Mexico around the same period in time, I was in Tijuana. The military installations have been around for some time and those from the US might be scared seeing them but it's really no big deal in Mexico. They are set up along many highways as you travel around Mexico. I even had a buddy give a ride to a soldier from one check point to another on his drive back from Cabo. He was alone and enjoyed having some company. Poor soldier had to deal with a crazy gringo joking with him about doing cocaine and stuff. I'm sure that poor kid still talks about that to this day.

I think the violence that the news exaggerated and also during that time was the H1 N1 mess and the media hyped that up as well that if you went to Mexico you were going to get this deadly disease. In the summer we would go to Rosarito but usually went to the north beach because we liked to drive our cars down to the beach where we would set up our BBQ and not have to haul everything back to the car. Later the ex and I started going and would stay in front of one of the bars where you could pay for a table with an umbrella and enjoy a day at the beach. If we needed a restroom we would just use the bar. I even got to know the parking guy and he would still let me in the lot when he had a lot full sign out front. So I'm not sure I'd totally agree with your statement that the beaches were a ghost town even in the summer. Now as far as how it was at night and the bars I couldn't say. Like I mentioned in a recent report that I had spent the day and evening in Rosarito after a long time being away and was very happy with all the crowds and it seemed like they weren't just catering to young college kids. Of course they had the Beach Fest these last couple of weekends and from what I saw online and read it was a huge success.

Sorry to hear your friend in Tijuana doesn't live in a safe area. I think in general you have Americans that will visit Tijuana until it is absolutely lawless and others that have never visited just from what they hear and they never will. Also people will continue to buy if they can save some money or believe that where they are is safe. I often thought of buying but with the instability in the safety and the housing prices I would still just rent if I was to return.