Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Hargow20]

Personally I rarely if ever use the ATM's in Tijuana since I dislike paying the transaction fees. I only carry enough money for the day. If I do have do use a ATM in Tijuana I will only go to one of major banks like HSBC. One thing nice about HSBC is that they have a ATM that puts out US dollars. The only downside is that their ATM is closed at night.


ATM manufacturers could do more. All sorts of protrusions attached to ATMs these days. Cameras (for security), mirrors, deposit drawers etc. If they made the entire front one sheet of steel (or whatever) with cutouts just for the screen, the money slot, and the card slot (and just a slot, not a device within a larger hole) then it would be easier to spot the more obvious devices that should not be there.

This one annoys me. The protrusion over the card slot is probably genuine here. But many ATMs have a recess instead, so is this genuine or is it an add-on? Such devices covering a recess and looking like this picture used to be common for swiping your details years ago.

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Indeed, though even that is not infallible. Firstly I've yet to stay at a hotel in Mexico that actually had a safe (only around 4 so far, from cheap motels to US priced 3-4* Secondly, after inadvertently locking my stuff in a safe in SE Asia somewhere, where the hotel just sent a bellboy with the master key to all the safes in the hotel, I have little faith that they're completely secure. But most definitely better than nothing, and beats the casual fingering of your stuff.

[ItalianBWalls]

How do you get enough pesos to bring in? Or do you just bring USD? I ask because the Cambios at the border have a 50 dollar limit for exchanging dollars into pesos, that's nothing. I had to go to three Cambios to get enough pesos to pay for my needs for one day. I ended up using the ATM in the Cascadas lobby at the next days of my trip.

No one has really answered the question of what to do if the hotel safe is not accessible. When I went to grab the safe key at the front desk, they looked in their pile and it was gone. I do not know if this is uncommon or what.

I also got pesos from the ATM located in the table game room at Hotel Pueblo. I do not remember the fee, but the ATM was much more higher tech than the Cascadas one, and located fairly deep into the hotel, so I imagine it must be safer. What do you guys think?

IB.


That is the key. Bring enough cash for your stay. Lock the cash in hotel safe. Take enough with you each day, for your daily use. Problem solved.

[ScatManDoo]

Personally I rarely if ever use the ATM's in Tijuana since I dislike paying the transaction fees. I only carry enough money for the day. If I do have do use a ATM in Tijuana I will only go to one of major banks like HSBC. One thing nice about HSBC is that they have a ATM that puts out US dollars. The only downside is that their ATM is closed at night.The HSBC ATM inside of Soriana (grocery) on Revolution between 2nd and 3rd street is available at night.

[Once Sailor]

I am the opposite. Since my stays in Tijuana are from 1 to 4 weeks, several times a year, I do not like carrying that much cash. So I opened a Santander US savings account. Need to maintain a $100 balance to avoid fees. I usually only have enough in it between trips to avoid the fees. I "top" up on the amount of money I will be using for my trip. Using the debit card, I can make 6 withdrawals a month free from fees at any Santander bank ATM in Mexico. I also get the money at the bank exchange rate, which is better than any money exchange in SD or Tijuana. I also have my alerts really low, so I usually get a transaction alert email anytime my card is used. Seems to work for me. There are other banks in the US that offer the same or close to this type of service. Might be worth looking into, if you plan on a few visits.

[HornyIndo]

My ATM card has unlimited ATM withdrawls from any bank's ATM at no extra cost, I got it mostly to monger outside US.

I made the mistake of leaving cash in there between the visits.

I had forgotten about chip and pin card till this was mentioned, my ATM card is new with chip and pin, and yet it got copied.

The chip is expected to be very secure, I worked on related technology in past. Now I am surprised and wondering how someone managed to copy it.

[LovesToSploog]

I am the opposite. Since my stays in Tijuana are from 1 to 4 weeks, several times a year, I do not like carrying that much cash. So I opened a Santander US savings account. Need to maintain a $100 balance to avoid fees. I usually only have enough in it between trips to avoid the fees. I "top" up on the amount of money I will be using for my trip. Using the debit card, I can make 6 withdrawals a month free from fees at any Santander bank ATM in Mexico. I also get the money at the bank exchange rate, which is better than any money exchange in SD or Tijuana. I also have my alerts really low, so I usually get a transaction alert email anytime my card is used. Seems to work for me. There are other banks in the US that offer the same or close to this type of service. Might be worth looking into, if you plan on a few visits.Charles Schwab checking account will let you open an account where you can use it at any ATM, no minimum balances either. Since they don't have a bank they reimburse ATM fees at the end of the month. There are no foreign exchange fees and they have good exchange rate, just a FYI.

[Nounce]

In some Asian countries, you can withdraw cash from ATM without using a card. You use your phone to generate a one time code or QR code to withdraw. In China, you don't even need cash, just use your phone to transfer money. Last time I even got refund the same way because I was not happy with the service.

[Baxter Slade]

In some Asian countries, you can withdraw cash from ATM without using a card. You use your phone to generate a one time code or QR code to withdraw. In China, you don't even need cash, just use your phone to transfer money. Last time I even got refund the same way because I was not happy with the service.Using your phone instead of a card at an ATM. Sounds like it is available here. I just saw it in a Chase Bank commercial.

[MongerHunger]

How do you get enough pesos to bring in? Or do you just bring USD? I ask because the Cambios at the border have a 50 dollar limit for exchanging dollars into pesos, that's nothing. I had to go to three Cambios to get enough pesos to pay for my needs for one day. I ended up using the ATM in the Cascadas lobby at the next days of my trip.At the border I have use the cambios right by tbe McDonald's, another one right across the trolley tracks in the small building, another that was in the little grocery store that now seems to be boarded up and they never limited me on an exchange. All transactions were over $50 USD.

[Artisttyp]

Using your phone instead of a card at an ATM. Sounds like it is available here. I just saw it in a Chase Bank commercial.Never heard of this until now. Thanks for the tip:

No Wallet, No Worries: Your Smartphone Is Now Your ATM Card.

BRAVE NEW BANK This NerdWallet series delves into what's new in retail banking and what's in it for you. We explore some of the surprising things in store for products, tech and security and look at how they'll affect consumers.

While walking her dog one evening in San Francisco, Melinda Hickman suddenly realized two things. She needed to get cash to pay her house cleaner the next morning — and her bank card was back at home in her wallet. Unfazed, Hickman signed in to the Wells Fargo app on her smartphone. After a few taps, the app generated an eight-digit code. At a nearby ATM, she punched in the code and her PIN and was able to withdraw the money.

"It was simple and convenient," she recalls. And because no swipe was involved, the transaction was more secure than a standard withdrawal.

Convenience and security are two big reasons banks believe consumers will embrace cardless ATM access. Indeed, 2017 is shaping up to be the year cardless ATMs catch on. Since March, when Wells Fargo debuted app-based authentication at all of its 13,000 ATMs in the United States, customers like Hickman have carried out more than 1 million cardless transactions.

Payments-research firm Crone Consulting recently estimated that by fall 2017,25% of the nation's 425,000 ATMs would accommodate cardless access. Some examples:

Bank of America plans to have all of its ATMs equipped for cardless access by the end of 2017.

Chase tested a pilot version of cardless access last year. Its system suffered some security lapses. This year, having tightened up account access, the bank is trying again with 600 machines in certain Florida, California and Ohio cities.

Smaller banks, including BMO Harris, Bank of Hawaii, Illinois-based Wintrust Financial and Boston-area Salem Five, have been providing this ATM option successfully for the past few years.

» MORE: New changes, new options in banking.

How cardless ATMs work.

During ordinary ATM transactions, you establish your identity with your PIN and the data stored on your card's magnetic stripe. With cardless withdrawals, your phone takes on that task, which it can do in one of two ways:

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App-generated code: Some codes, such as Wells Fargo's, are numerical. Others, such as those used by BMO Harris and Bank of Hawaii, are two-dimensional bar codes, also known as QR codes. At the ATM, you enter the numerical code or scan the QR code, proving your identity and authenticating your upcoming transaction. In many cases, you'll have to enter your PIN as well.

Near-field communication: This involves tapping your phone against a sensor attached to the ATM. A chip in your phone emits a signal by which the NFC-enabled ATM confirms your identity. (Apple Pay, Android Pay and similar digital wallet apps use NFC.) You then select the virtual debit card info stored in your app or digital wallet, enter your PIN and conduct your transaction.

Capital One uses NFC for its CashTapp system at brick-and-mortar locations in Boston; Chicago; Philadelphia; San Francisco; Austin, Texas; and Richmond, Virginia. Bank of America's cardless ATMs use NFC as well. Wells Fargo has announced it will add NFC capability to all its ATMs this year; more than 40% already have NFC enabled.

Security is the motivation.

Why the push for cardless ATMs? Convenience is a big factor, though you do lose the flexibility of being able to use every ATM, as you can with a card. More significantly, app-enabled ATM access lessens the risk of having your card data stolen.

Card data are most commonly pilfered with skimmers, hidden devices that read and store account information when someone swipes a card at an ATM. When those data are combined with PINs that have been recorded with pinhole cameras or fake keypads, fraudsters can create and use counterfeit cards for those accounts.

Skimming accounts for more than 98% of ATM fraud losses, according to security firm TMD Security. The Secret Service estimates that consumers and banks lose $8 billion to skimming each year. In 2016, FICO reported, the number of compromised ATMs and point-of-sale card readers rose by 30%.

Consumers are aware of the danger. In one recent survey, 34% of ATM users in the USA Said they were "very concerned" about card skimmers. In a different poll, 28% of American cash machine users said they wanted ATM authentication to be more secure.

What you can do to be safer.

Cardless access definitely helps, but it's not the only answer. A few crooks have already managed to hack the new system. As reported by computer security expert Brian Krebs, at least some of last year's Chase account breaches occurred after thieves stole login details for the victims' accounts, then altered the accounts' authentication details to gain access.

"Layers of security need to be added to make it harder for the thieves, but users should also practice good identity hygiene," says Eva Velasquez, president and CEO of the Identity Theft Resource Center in San Diego. The ITRC recommends adding more authentication factors to your app, such as a fingerprint or second passcode; using antivirus software on your phone; and avoiding links in texts from unfamiliar sources.

The goal is to ensure that if you don't swipe your card, fraudsters can't swipe your data.

[Simmer]

Using your phone instead of a card at an ATM. Sounds like it is available here. I just saw it in a Chase Bank commercial.Wells Fargo do it too.


The chip is expected to be very secure, I worked on related technology in past. Now I am surprised and wondering how someone managed to copy it.Chip or not, usage online is easy with just the human readable information on the card. Even card present transactions: see below.

The US's reluctance to move to chip and PIN, as used in most other western countries by then, was the supposed lack of benefits to security. How it's been implemented (chip and signature, not chip and PIN) explains that logic. I can't remember where I read this but supposedly the fraud rate dropped by 90% in Europe with the introduction of chip and PIN, whereas the US fraud rate only dropped 10% with chip and signature. That low figure is not helped by the fact most US places will accept a swipe instead of a chip read if the chip doesn't work. In other words, clone a card, stick a dummy chip in it, fail to read the chip when you pay, retailer lets you sign instead. I believe in Europe many retailers would decline to accept payment in this case, rather than risk a chargeback.

[Once Sailor]

My ATM card has unlimited ATM withdrawls from any bank's ATM at no extra cost, I got it mostly to monger outside US.

I made the mistake of leaving cash in there between the visits.

I had forgotten about chip and pin card till this was mentioned, my ATM card is new with chip and pin, and yet it got copied.

The chip is expected to be very secure, I worked on related technology in past. Now I am surprised and wondering how someone managed to copy it.The chip card is a lot more secure. BUT. Is there a magnetic strip on the back of your card? Unless you use your card exclusively in a chip reading machine, a lot of ATM's / gas pumps still have the old strip reading mechanism in them. That is how thieves steal your info.

[Dcrist0527]

The US's reluctance to move to chip and PIN, as used in most other western countries by then, was the supposed lack of benefits to security. How it's been implemented (chip and signature, not chip and PIN) explains that logic. I can't remember where I read this but supposedly the fraud rate dropped by 90% in Europe with the introduction of chip and PIN, whereas the US fraud rate only dropped 10% with chip and signature. That low figure is not helped by the fact most US places will accept a swipe instead of a chip read if the chip doesn't work. In other words, clone a card, stick a dummy chip in it, fail to read the chip when you pay, retailer lets you sign instead. I believe in Europe many retailers would decline to accept payment in this case, rather than risk a chargeback.This is good info, Simmer. And almost accurate. Yes, fraud declined 90% in Europe. And it has declined far more than 10% in the US. I can't speak to all outfits, but card cloning and similar fraud is down over 50%.

But to answer the earlier question about how the chip card was cloned: it likely was not. Or at least the chip was almost certainly not cloned. But as Simmer's article mentioned, and as I mentioned earlier, the problem is with the vendors. Because it is new technology (at least in the US), it is misunderstood and misused. Card holders purposely destroy the chip. But if a vendor accepts a card with a non-functional chip, they are entirely on the hook. So what almost certainly happened was they put some non-functional chip in a cloned card and the vendor subverted the chip process.

In defense of the vendors, they don't understand the process. And there is a high percentage of card holders breaking the chip intentionally, again not understanding the purpose. Once we are smarter about it in the US, we'll get closer to 90%.

Safe to say, the bad guys will find a way to beat this too. But right now, it is not cost effective and they are on to other fraud types.

[Basketball101]

Wells Fargo do it too.

Chip or not, usage online is easy with just the human readable information on the card. Even card present transactions: see below.

The US's reluctance to move to chip and PIN, as used in most other western countries by then, was the supposed lack of benefits to security. How it's been implemented (chip and signature, not chip and PIN) explains that logic. I can't remember where I read this but supposedly the fraud rate dropped by 90% in Europe with the introduction of chip and PIN, whereas the US fraud rate only dropped 10% with chip and signature. That low figure is not helped by the fact most US places will accept a swipe instead of a chip read if the chip doesn't work. In other words, clone a card, stick a dummy chip in it, fail to read the chip when you pay, retailer lets you sign instead. I believe in Europe many retailers would decline to accept payment in this case, rather than risk a chargeback.95% of the places I use a crd in the us, use a chip reader.

[Dcrist0527]

They are all "required" to. Not all of them do, which is a significant liability for them.

One other point to clarify regarding online purchases. The safeguard there is that annoying CVV on the back of your card. All online vendors are "required" to validate that number. The reason: that number is not contained on the magnetic strip. In theory, it proves you have the card & not a clone.


95% of the places I use a crd in the us, use a chip reader.

[StRobert]

Statistics are not good but I still feel safe in Adelita, Hong Kong, Av. Revolucion, Motel La Mansion. Here is a link to the article from "San Diego Reader" https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2018/aug/08/stringers-tijuanas-most-violent-month-all-history/#.

[DramaFree11]

Statistics are not good but I still feel safe in Adelita, Hong Kong, Av. Revolucion, Motel La Mansion. Here is a link to the article from "San Diego Reader" https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2018/aug/08/stringers-tijuanas-most-violent-month-all-history/.

Good advice, very sad what is happening, but unfortunately the case in most major cities in America and Mexico. Take a cap a night, and be aware of your surroundings you should be fine.

[Hargow20]

I feel relatively safe in Tijuana. But I always look to see who is behind me in the Zona. It is also important to keep abreast of the crime trends in Tijuana. Just remember when crime goes up the ratero's muggings and police shakedown's become more common.


Statistics are not good but I still feel safe in Adelita, Hong Kong, Av. Revolucion, Motel La Mansion. Here is a link to the article from "San Diego Reader" https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2018/aug/08/stringers-tijuanas-most-violent-month-all-history/#.

[Once Sailor]

Most of the violent crimes in Tijuana are on the outskirts of town. A lot of it is (like in the US) local on local, drug related, or family related. The San Diego article mentioned crimes in the "safe" areas are all as stated prior. And I think the last shooting near the Hong Kong club was in October of 2012. (Was in the parking lot a half block away.) Not as bad as living in Chicago, where bystanders are getting hit left and right.

[Dcrist0527]

Great points, Sailor.

I'm not a fool. This playground has danger. But I do take issue with some of the article. It seems to want to point out that the violence is spreading to tourist areas. And there have been a very small number of incidents in those areas that should raise awareness and even concern. But the article uses a sensational story about a clearly mentally disturbed man to justify the premise of spreading to tourist areas. This was a deranged man in his home. Hardly something to worry the tourists about!

As many have stated before me, the media loves to grab you with headlines and then draw illogical conclusions from faulty logic. We are best served by evaluating the facts ourselves, not accepting the headline or some "reporter's" spin.


Most of the violent crimes in Tijuana are on the outskirts of town. A lot of it is (like in the US) local on local, drug related, or family related. The San Diego article mentioned crimes in the "safe" areas are all as stated prior. And I think the last shooting near the Hong Kong club was in October of 2012. (Was in the parking lot a half block away.) Not as bad as living in Chicago, where bystanders are getting hit left and right.

[BigBuckets73]

It might be my size or maybe the color of my skin (I'm browned skinned, but not of Hispanic descendancy).

I been going to Tijuana since 2000 and have only got confronted by the cops once. I'll admit I was wasted.

I simply took out my wallet and Passport. They asked the usual question. Where you going. Do you have any drugs.

Want to be safe in Tijuana? Don't go exploring at night. Stay in the Zone or in the night clubs. Don't get at #$tfaced. If you do, get a local hotel room. Sleep it off. Don't ask for drugs.

[MongerHunger]

Most of the violent crimes in Tijuana are on the outskirts of town. A lot of it is (like in the US) local on local, drug related, or family related. The San Diego article mentioned crimes in the "safe" areas are all as stated prior. And I think the last shooting near the Hong Kong club was in October of 2012. (Was in the parking lot a half block away.) Not as bad as living in Chicago, where bystanders are getting hit left and right.Just recently there was a killing in the alley near HK where someone was shot and killed. That would be just a half a block or so away near HK's alley entrance. Also there was a shooting on Coahuila near HK last year where a police officer was shot and killed.

[MongerHunger]

Great points, Sailor.

I'm not a fool. This playground has danger. But I do take issue with some of the article. It seems to want to point out that the violence is spreading to tourist areas. And there have been a very small number of incidents in those areas that should raise awareness and even concern. But the article uses a sensational story about a clearly mentally disturbed man to justify the premise of spreading to tourist areas. This was a deranged man in his home. Hardly something to worry the tourists about!

As many have stated before me, the media loves to grab you with headlines and then draw illogical conclusions from faulty logic. We are best served by evaluating the facts ourselves, not accepting the headline or some "reporter's" spin.I was just in Las Playas de Tijuana about 3 days before that incident. It would have been crazy if all that was going on while I was there. The funny thing is that I didn't see not one police in the beach area or on calle Del Pacifico but I did see ocean rescue there. I have seen more police on San Diego and LA beaches than Tijuana beaches.

[Ctytek]

Chances are = you won't get hurt in Tijuana, if you practice basic safety rules, don't engage in risky activities. But to compare Tijuana to Chicago or any other US city is absurd. The level of violence and associated corruption of law enforcement is exponentially higher in Mexico. Making Mexico far far more dangerous. There is just no comparing US and Mexico.


Most of the violent crimes in Tijuana are on the outskirts of town. A lot of it is (like in the US) local on local, drug related, or family related. The San Diego article mentioned crimes in the "safe" areas are all as stated prior. And I think the last shooting near the Hong Kong club was in October of 2012. (Was in the parking lot a half block away.) Not as bad as living in Chicago, where bystanders are getting hit left and right.

[Dcrist0527]

I'd say it's incomparable, but only because of what you pointed out. The dangers are different. Chicago's violence is wide spread and in some instances, more random. In Tijuana, the violence is more targeted. Usually. But the corruption and policing practices exposes you to a different type of danger. You have the shakedown game. But you also have the federales battling the narcos. Again, those battles are largely outside of where mongers hang out. Usually.

To me, it's hard to compare the two. And I'm not sure I'd say one is more or less dangerous than the other. Totally different experiences.


Chances are = you won't get hurt in Tijuana, if you practice basic safety rules, don't engage in risky activities. But to compare Tijuana to Chicago or any other US city is absurd. The level of violence and associated corruption of law enforcement is exponentially higher in Mexico. Making Mexico far far more dangerous. There is just no comparing US and Mexico.

[Ctytek]

Number of people murdered in Tijuana in July alone is just slightly below the number of people murdered in Chicago during all of 2018.2018 Tijuana murder rate per capita is about 10 x higher than Chicago's. Chicago gun violence is largely contained to a few gang dominated neighborhoods on South and West sides of the city, majority of North side is near violence free. Tijuana violence on the other hand has been spilling into traditionally touristy areas as of late. Several murders in Centro and Zona Norte this summer.

Even if you take relative lawlessness and police corruption in Mexico out of the equitation. Tijuana is far more dangerous than any US city, it's not even close.


I'd say it's incomparable, but only because of what you pointed out. The dangers are different. Chicago's violence is wide spread and in some instances, more random. In Tijuana, the violence is more targeted. Usually. But the corruption and policing practices exposes you to a different type of danger. You have the shakedown game. But you also have the federales battling the narcos. Again, those battles are largely outside of where mongers hang out. Usually.

To me, it's hard to compare the two. And I'm not sure I'd say one is more or less dangerous than the other. Totally different experiences.

[Dcrist0527]

Statistically, yes, I agree. Not even close. But that's a slightly different argument than which city is more dangerous. Granted, that's a fool's argument, as it is impossible to know. But I believe (admittedly, I could be wrong), the murders in Tijuana are much more targeted. They are also more brutal (mutilation, burning, hanging, etc.), but that also lends credence to my point. These murders are targeted at narcos. I think that has to be part of the conversation.


Number of people murdered in Tijuana in July alone is just slightly below the number of people murdered in Chicago during all of 2018.2018 Tijuana murder rate per capita is about 10 x higher than Chicago's. Chicago gun violence is largely contained to a few gang dominated neighborhoods on South and West sides of the city, majority of North side is near violence free. Tijuana violence on the other hand has been spilling into traditionally touristy areas as of late. Several murders in Centro and Zona Norte this summer.

Even if you take relative lawlessness and police corruption in Mexico out of the equitation. Tijuana is far more dangerous than any US city, it's not even close.

[Ctytek]

True, most MX murders are targeted. The same is also true for US cities. Continuing with Chicago example - 90% of gun violence that Chicago is so infamous for is gang-on-gang wars, retaliation cycles, etc. If you aren't affiliated with gangs and don't live in gang war zone areas. You have nothing to worry about.

The big difference with Mexico is that a scale of violence is on a different level. And the fact that the cartels run the show. While the law enforcement is corrupt, incompetent and ineffective. Maybe AMLO will turn things around, but I doubt it.


Statistically, yes, I agree. Not even close. But that's a slightly different argument than which city is more dangerous. Granted, that's a fool's argument, as it is impossible to know. But I believe (admittedly, I could be wrong), the murders in Tijuana are much more targeted. They are also more brutal (mutilation, burning, hanging, etc.), but that also lends credence to my point. These murders are targeted at narcos. I think that has to be part of the conversation.

[Dcrist0527]

Very true. I'm also not very confident AMLO, or any single politician, can change it. The issues are so ingrained in Mexican society, sadly, it will be a generational problem.

I think I feel the way I do because I hear more about the bystanders being killed in Chicago. You hear more about the 12 year old shot "accidentally" in a drive by. The reports out of Mexico are far less specific.

In any case, the violence, as I understand it, won't change my plans. Tijuana gets the edge based on the benefits. LOL.


True, most MX murders are targeted. The same is also true for US cities. Continuing with Chicago example - 90% of gun violence that Chicago is so infamous for is gang-on-gang wars, retaliation cycles, etc. If you aren't affiliated with gangs and don't live in gang war zone areas. You have nothing to worry about.

The big difference with Mexico is that a scale of violence is on a different level. And the fact that the cartels run the show. While the law enforcement is corrupt, incompetent and ineffective. Maybe AMLO will turn things around, but I doubt it.

[Hargow20]

My guess is that much of the street violence can be curbed. But weeding out the corruption and police shakedowns will be a much bigger problems. Part of the problem is that Tijuana has 3 or 4 different police agencies that don't have police radio's with the same police bands. The other problem is that there needs to be more community policing. It is simply ridiculous that the ratero's are allowed to sell drugs openly on the street yelling Quanto's. Having a better system of checks and balances would do a lot to end corruption in Mexico as well.


Very true. I'm also not very confident AMLO, or any single politician, can change it. The issues are so ingrained in Mexican society, sadly, it will be a generational problem.

I think I feel the way I do because I hear more about the bystanders being killed in Chicago. You hear more about the 12 year old shot "accidentally" in a drive by. The reports out of Mexico are far less specific.

In any case, the violence, as I understand it, won't change my plans. Tijuana gets the edge based on the benefits. LOL.

[Dcrist0527]

Sure, that's reasonable. But think about the levels and scale of corruption. You have cartels paying off countless people with more 0's than I'll ever see. That's created a ruling class. And translate that all the way down to businesses paying protection money to street thugs. It's so prevalent and so ingrained that it's just a way of life. And the Mexican economy cannot possibly flip a switch and maintain a comparable semblance of life quality.

I don't see an end until, socially, there is a tremendous revolution. I'm not saying that is impossible. But I don't foresee it in the next decade. It's been part of the social structure for longer than we can imagine, I suspect.


My guess is that much of the street violence can be curbed. But weeding out the corruption and police shakedowns will be a much bigger problems. Part of the problem is that Tijuana has 3 or 4 different police agencies that don't have police radio's with the same police bands. The other problem is that there needs to be more community policing. It is simply ridiculous that the ratero's are allowed to sell drugs openly on the street yelling Quanto's. Having a better system of checks and balances would do a lot to end corruption in Mexico as well.

[Hargow20]

The two vlass system existed long before the drug cartels became a huge problem in Mexico. Back in the 70'and 80's there was a a lot of drug smuggling. But the violence levels was nowhere near what it is today. Mexico back then had a lot of corruption. Today Mexico has a society that is both violent and corrupt. The other problem is that Mexico jas allowed these huge monop lists like Carlos Slim to control large sectors of the economy.


Sure, that's reasonable. But think about the levels and scale of corruption. You have cartels paying off countless people with more 0's than I'll ever see. That's created a ruling class. And translate that all the way down to businesses paying protection money to street thugs. It's so prevalent and so ingrained that it's just a way of life. And the Mexican economy cannot possibly flip a switch and maintain a comparable semblance of life quality.

I don't see an end until, socially, there is a tremendous revolution. I'm not saying that is impossible. But I don't foresee it in the next decade. It's been part of the social structure for longer than we can imagine, I suspect.

[Artisttyp]

Chiquito from the other website brings this recent happening to our attention:

This is maybe one or two blocks past La Perla restaurant.

Atacan a tiros a una mujer en la zona Norte de Tijuana.

El ataque ocurrió sobre * las calles Coahuila why Mutualismo.

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

Una mujer resultó con lesiones por arma de fuego, la tarde de este martes en la zona Norte de Tijuana.

LOS hechos se reportaron alrededor de las 15:30 horas sobre las calles Coahuila why Mutualismo.

La mujer fue trasladada por socorristas de Cruz Roja a un hospital con al menos 5 disparos en diferentes partes del cuerpo, por lo que su condicióand es crítica.

Se informó que la Policía Municipal detuvo a una persona del sexo masculino relacionado con LOS hechos, quien traía un arma de fuego why abordó una bicicleta.

[Artisttyp]

Shit is getting crazy!

Encuentran cadáver de mujer en un tambo de basura en Tijuana.

Escuchar.

Por: Ángel F. González.

28/08/2018 10:45.

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

El cadáver de una mujer fue localizado en un tambo de basura abandonado en la Zona Norte esta madrugada.

El hallazgo fue reportado en la calle Baja California, frente al albergue temporal "Tu lugar es a mi lado", en dicha colonia.

LOS agentes de la Policía Municipal confirmaron la presencia del cuerpo durante un recorrido de vigilancia, dentro de un bote de basura verde, del cual escurría sangre.

Edited just now by Sonero.

[OlderMan4U]

Just a friendly reminder, do not jaywalk around those border crossing areas.

I'm sure most of you don't jaywalk. But in the case that some of you don't use the crosswalks or don't wait for the green light to cross, just a warning that there are cops stationed at some of those intersections and will cite you if they catch you.

I was in Tijuana today. That little street you cross from Jack in the Box to the trolley stop (on the way to Ped East entrance), the light was red and I saw some guy ignore the red light and walk across. I was temped to follow him but stopped for some reason, and then I saw a cop standing right there on the other side. The guy that crossed on red was nabbed by the cop and as I passed by, saw him handing over his ID and probably getting a ticket.

Be patient and wait for the green light at all times.

[StRobert]

Shit is getting crazy! Translated by Google Translate.

Encuentran cadver de mujer en un tambo de basura en Tijuana.

Escuchar.

Por: ngel F. Gonzlez.

28/08/2018 10:45.

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

El cadver de una mujer fue localizado en un tambo de basura abandonado en la Zona Norte esta madrugada.

El hallazgo fue reportado en la calle Baja California, frente al albergue temporal "Tu lugar es a mi lado", en dicha colonia.

LOS agentes de la Polica Municipal confirmaron la presencia del cuerpo durante un recorrido de vigilancia, dentro de un bote de basura verde, del cual escurra sangre.

Edited just now by Sonero.They find a woman's corpse in a trashcan in Tijuana.

Hear.

By: ngel F. Gonzlez.

08/28/2018 10:

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

The corpse of a woman was located in an abandoned trash bin in the North Zone this morning.

The finding was reported on Baja California street, in front of the temporary shelter "Tu lugar es a mi lado", in that colony.

The Municipal Police officers confirmed the presence of the body during a surveillance tour, inside a green trash can, from which blood flowed.

Edited just now by Sonero. (Translated by Google Translate)

[StRobert]

Chiquito from the other website brings this recent happening to our attention:

This is maybe one or two blocks past La Perla restaurant.

Atacan a tiros a una mujer en la zona Norte de Tijuana.

El ataque ocurri sobre * las calles Coahuila why Mutualismo.

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

Una mujer result con lesiones por arma de fuego, la tarde de este martes en la zona Norte de Tijuana.

LOS hechos se reportaron alrededor de las 15:30 horas sobre las calles Coahuila why Mutualismo.

La mujer fue trasladada por socorristas de Cruz Roja a un hospital con al menos 5 disparos en diferentes partes del cuerpo, por lo que su condiciand es crtica.

Se inform que la Polica Municipal detuvo a una persona del sexo masculino relacionado con LOS hechos, quien traa un arma de fuego why abord una bicicleta.Chiquito from the other website brings this recent happening to our attention:

This is maybe one or two blocks past La Perla restaurant.

They shoot a woman in the northern area of Tijuana.

The attack occurred on * the streets Coahuila why Mutualismo.

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

A woman was injured by firearms, this Tuesday afternoon in the northern zone of Tijuana.

The facts were reported around 15:30 hours on the streets Coahuila why Mutualismo.

The woman was taken by Red Cross lifeguards to a hospital with at least 5 shots in different parts of her body, so her condition is critical.

It was reported that the Municipal Police arrested a person of the male sex related to the events, who brought a firearm because he boarded a bicycle. (Translated by Google Translate).

[StRobert]

Tijuana now in comparison to 10 years ago is much safer. Especially inside Hong Kong or Adelita clubs probably the safest places in Zona. Also Monte Carlo, Sonora Grill restaurants and OXXO opposite the Adelita no problem. In SG alley you have to be careful. Always use a taxi from the border to Zona and back. I can give you a link to video from about 10 years ago. Tijuana was like a war zone! Video - Tijuana shootout with cartel link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzXqFe5M5v0

[Hargow20]

My impression is that the Zona is safer these days. There is more police and they are arresting more of the ratero's and drug dealers. The crime still goes up and down so it is important to try be aware of when the crime is on the rise. This important because this when there is the most danger.


Tijuana now in comparison to 10 years ago is much safer. Especially inside Hong Kong or Adelita clubs probably the safest places in Zona. Also Monte Carlo, Sonora Grill restaurants and OXXO opposite the Adelita no problem. In SG alley you have to be careful. Always use a taxi from the border to Zona and back. I can give you a link to video from about 10 years ago. Tijuana was like a war zone! Video - Tijuana shootout with cartel link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzXqFe5M5v0

[Asting]

Just a friendly reminder, do not jaywalk around those border crossing areas.

I'm sure most of you don't jaywalk. But in the case that some of you don't use the crosswalks or don't wait for the green light to cross, just a warning that there are cops stationed at some of those intersections and will cite you if they catch you.

I was in Tijuana today. That little street you cross from Jack in the Box to the trolley stop (on the way to Ped East entrance), the light was red and I saw some guy ignore the red light and walk across. I was temped to follow him but stopped for some reason, and then I saw a cop standing right there on the other side. The guy that crossed on red was nabbed by the cop and as I passed by, saw him handing over his ID and probably getting a ticket.

Be patient and wait for the green light at all times.True, I have witnessed the same thing many times on that jack in the box intersection on Ped East.

Wait for the sign before you cross. This is not Tijuana, yet!

[Urfikhan]

My impression is that the Zona is safer these days. There is more police and they are arresting more of the ratero's and drug dealers. The crime still goes up and down so it is important to try be aware of when the crime is on the rise. This important because this when there is the most danger.One SG shared with me that most shootings happen after 11 - midnight, and she had switched her hours to earlier to avoid becoming a target. I would be extra vigilant mongering in the alley after 11 PM.

[Travv]

I thought the whole alley and the inside of Cascadas and HK are full of security cameras. For example, if you look at the reception desk and elsewhere, they are abundant, probably to watch the desk clerk and bar staff and the cash registers along with the customers. There is a sign at Cascadas reception prohibiting hats, sunglasses and hoodies so guests can be videotaped. If Mexicans dislike being in pictures, then they should avoid the clubs and hotel area with all the video cams.


One thing to never do in Mexico is take pictures. Just having the phone out can make people think your taking pictures. I had a street girl grab my phone she thought I was taking video. The issue is so many people are up to no good they don't want to be located or filmed. This is not pattaya. I think its also illegal to film or take pictures. That's how bad things are. I changed directions walking in the street in LA the other day, I begged with a cane was so paranoid I recognized him and was conning after him he was suddenly not needing the cane and running from me with his head turned to watch me. When people are up to no good, looking at anyone can be a problem.

[MongerHunger]

I changed directions walking in the street in LA the other day, I begged with a cane was so paranoid I recognized him and was conning after him he was suddenly not needing the cane and running from me with his head turned to watch me. When people are up to no good, looking at anyone can be a problem.Did you move back to California after informing us that you left the state recently?

[Hargow20]

I typically only stay in Tijuana until 10 pm. I normally head back around 9-9:30 pm. Kayla comes out around 11 pm. But her prices are simply not worth it to justify sticking around.


One SG shared with me that most shootings happen after 11 - midnight, and she had switched her hours to earlier to avoid becoming a target. I would be extra vigilant mongering in the alley after 11 PM.

[MexiMonger]

OK so violence will most likely hit you if you are going around looking for drugs or hittin hookers or something like that.

I have been in tijuana for two days, going down the alley at all hours, even at 2 am and I feel safe, of course, always looking behind me and being low profile.

Police was there all the time, never left.

There was one at Adelitas door who would receive tips, it was hilarious because he was a federal policeman.

Anyway, just do common sense stuff. Do not do drugs in Tijuana, that's how you end up dead.

[Bbond]

Google translation is somewhat understandable.

"Presidente municipal de Tijuana.

Juan manuel gastélum.

Alinea tus putas perras, de los retenes.

O los tijuanenses nos vamos a levantar en armas y les vamos a partir en su madre hijos de su puta madre.

Comparte.

Mensaje a todas las embajadas why consulados:

Sus connacionales deben tener conocimiento que la ciudad de tijuana aparte de ser la más peligrosa del mundo.

Tiene la policía municipal más corrupta del mundo donde se hacen violaciones a los derechos humanos a diario a locales why extranjeros.

Donde las turistas son violadas por la propia policía municipal theónde son robados why extorsionados cuando les ponen armas why droga es por eso.

Que deben de avisar a sus connacionales no visitar o viajar a la ciudad más visitada del mundo que era la ciudad de Tijuana ya que no te tienes que cuidar de la delincuencia ni del crimen organizado sino de su propia policía municipal corrupta que tortura roba why viola a las turistas y a las locales."

Municipal President of Tijuana.

Juan Manuel Gastelum.

Line up your working girls dogs of the roadblocks.

Or the tijuanenses we're going to get up in guns and we're going to leave in his mother sons of his fucking mother.

Message to all embassies and consulates:

Their Nationals must be aware that the city of tijuana apart from being the most dangerous in the world.

He has the most corrupt municipal police in the world where human rights violations are made daily to premises and foreigners.

Where tourists are raped by the municipal police itself where they are stolen and extorted when they put guns and drugs that's why they must warn their nationals not to visit or travel to the most visited city in the world that was the city of Tijuana since You don't have to take care of crime or organized crime but of its own corrupt municipal police that torture steals and violates tourists and local people.

[Captain Solo]

Over 1,500 murders in Tijuana the first 6 months of 2018 alone.

Per Tijuana local press, the Felix Arrelano cartel has been eliminated. With El Chapo arrested and extradited to the US, the Sinaloa cartel is weak and being butchered up by the JNG cartel for distribution and transportation of drugs through Baja California Norte.

Already major resort cities, Cancun, Acapulco, Cabo San Lucas, Puerta Vallarta ect have been deserted of visitors for the last 5 to 6 years. Search Youtube for videos showing local business owners complain bitterly that their businesses used to be crammed with visitors, but now completely empty due to fear of violence. These business people are also subjected to extortion and shakedown by the cartels. Taxi drivers in Acapulco have to pay protection or face death.

This is the beastly side that is violently destroying the beautiful country and people of Mexico.

"journalist Luis Alonso Perez Chavez, who documented the expansion of the cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacióand. For the past two years, this criminal organization has been trying to wrest control of the city from the hands of the Sinaloa cartel. ".

https://warisboring.com/tijuanas-morgue-is-overflowing/

Tijuana's Morgue Is Overflowing Drug murders spike.

WIB FRONT September 10,2018 Pierre Sautreuil and Clement Detry.

Forensic authorities in Tijuana are overwhelmed by an unprecedented wave of violence. Buried in mass graves without being identified, the victims add up to the list of tens of thousands of people who have gone missing since the beginning of the war on drugs.

Martíand de la Cruz Roja washes the inside of a Ford van belonging to the Public Ministry. Nobody accompanies him to fetch the corpses of Tijuana tonight. He's on his 10th homicide victims since starting his shift in late afternoon.

It has been a year and a half since Martíand's employer, the prosecutor's office of the State of Baja California, decided to delegate all the other duties to funeral companies — and that for a good reason. For the past two years, the fridges of the Tijuana morgue have been overflowing.

With the help of Caesar, who is on duty that night at the morgue, Martín lays four bodies on metal trays in the autopsy room. All of them were shot in the head with a small-caliber pistol — the weapon of choice for quiet murders — and stripped of their identity papers.

Caesar searches in vain for some room in the refrigerators dedicated to "new arrivals", but they are already full. In each compartment, at least one body out of two bears the mention "unknown" scribbled on a slate. Upstairs, Dr. Melina Moreno, deputy director in charge of mass graves in the Tijuana morgue, confirms that the rate of identification of murder victims barely reaches 50 percent.

Caesar sighs. "Fortunately, we're going tomorrow to the mass graves."

With more than 1,500 violent deaths in just six months, 86 percent of which are related to drug trafficking, this border town of a million-and-a-half inhabitants is now one of the deadliest cities in the world. But far from the images of war and the macabre staging that Mexico has seen since the beginning of the war on drugs in 2006, the victims of the cartels perish in the shadows in Tijuana.

"Nobody, including the belligerents, has any interest in seeing the violence come to light," says journalist Luis Alonso Perez Chavez, who documented the expansion of the cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacióand. For the past two years, this criminal organization has been trying to wrest control of the city from the hands of the Sinaloa cartel, resulting in a number of homicides never seen before.

"This cartel is known almost everywhere else for its spectacular violence, but here in Tijuana, its victims are left out, hidden, in outlying areas, and it has become even more difficult to identify them."

The next morning at the morgue, around 15 bodies piled on the ground wait for a place in the freezers. Caesar was supposed to go home long ago. Instead, he was requisitioned to bring 40 corpses to mass graves. It is the third excursion of this kind in only two weeks.

"We would like to make more room by increasing the number of burials in mass graves, but the state attorney is slowing us down, as if he was trying to lower homicide statistics," says Dr. Melina Moreno, deputy director in charge of mass graves in the Tijuana morgue, as she climbs into the van loaded with corpses.

The victims Melina and her colleagues were carrying were killed three or four weeks ago. Since it takes too long for the state attorney's office to deal with the administrative procedures, the morgue's personnel do them on the go. In the sweltering heat of July 2018, the stench of putrefaction spreads at every stop. Three hours later, the team finally reaches the 12th Tijuana Municipal Cemetery, a gigantic site inaugurated in 2004, already populated by 30,000 dead.

For lack of means and personnel, the employees of the mortuary have to dig the pits with shovels under the blazing sun. The bodies are then piled up at the bottom of the trench, a dozen per section. All around them, a myriad of nameless white crosses covers several hills. In each of the 495 pits opened in Tijuana since September 2015, more than 3,000 individuals lay anonymously. In 23 of them, only the heads and babies are buried.

Back at the morgue, Maria, a secretary, presents her records for the month of July. In 15 days, only 10 murder victims have been identified. Mélina and her colleagues will have to keep going to the mass graves, but the procedure remains slow, lasting one month on average.

Photos via the authors.

Unidentified bodies often stay in the freezers for more than six months before being buried. The body of a Guatemalan citizen even congested the main freezer for a year because of endless DNA data round-trips between Mexican and Guatemalan authorities.

"There is no systematic sharing of genetic information, both nationally and with neighboring countries," says Fernando Ocegueda, president of "United for the Disappeared," the main regional collective searching for missing persons. "Many deaths are not identified simply because they come another country or from another region of Mexico."

President-elect Andrés Manuel Lopez Obrador, due to take office in December 2018, has made justice for the victims of criminal violence a national reconciliation issue. His office has organized "listening forums" for relatives of missing people in violence stricken cities. Olga Sanchez Cordero, who has been appointed to take up the post of Minister of Justice, has sworn to bring out the "truth" for every case of disappearance, but healing this national trauma is a titanic task.

37,000 are currently still missing in the country, and the list is growing day by day. The difficulty lies in the lack of resources put into action, but also in the identification of the oldest missing persons, whose relatives are sometimes no longer there to put a name on the rare remains.

According to Jan Jarab, who represents the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights in Mexico, this problem is structural and concerns the entire country. "Despite some efforts, the results have been insufficient to cope with the need to identify victims and investigate criminal violence," he says. "There is a need for investment to hire more staff, improve infrastructure and training, adopt new procedures and enshrine the autonomy of forensic experts. For that, Mexico should think of other solutions, including international cooperation. "

However, Tijuana's case might prove even more desperate than that of other Mexican cities, due to the extreme techniques used by local criminals to get rid of the bodies.

At the top of hill in the Maclovio Rojas district, in the eastern part of the city, Fernando Ocegueda returns once again to the Gallera, a former rooster-breeding farm where the Arellano-Felix cartel used to liquify its victims in caustic acid. At the height of the war between this criminal group and the Sinaloa cartel in the mid-2000's, dozens of facilities like this one worked day and night for the sole purpose of dissolving corpses.

"The bodies were dissolved, and the body fluids buried," says Ocegueda, pointing to two large underground tanks discovered in 2009. "In each of the two pits, we found 9,000 liters of organic emulsions, and a total of 20,000 bone fragments and teeth. ".

In 2011, all the remains discovered were sent for forensic analysis to Mexico City, but the acid is so damaging that only a handful of victims have been identified so far. Among them, the son of Fernando Ocegueda, gone missing at the age of 23.

For him and the other victims of the Arellano-Felix cartel, the "United for the Missing" association has begun the construction of a memorial on the Gallera, but the macabre discoveries keep postponing the time of mourning.

"According to a report, dissolved victims were also buried on this hill in front of us, but we haven't had the time to go search the premises yet," Fernando Ocegueda says, "there would also be under the small garden of palm trees, at the entrance of the building."

In 2017 only, more than 37,000 additional bone fragments were discovered in 27 different pits at the Gallera.

[Travv]

Was sitting in Restaurante Azul when a series of gunshots in the alley went off. Everyone in the restaurant hit the floor. After the shooting stopped, the diners and myself went to the balcony to see the scene. Looked like a non-pro woman was shot (looked like some type of waitress in a white shirt) and lying in front of the Golden Palace Bar and the police were on the scene, motioning people away from the woman as if she were dangerous. The paraditas who normally stand next to Restaurante Azul ran into the restaurant then up to the 2 d floor balcony. Likely will find out tomorrow in the newspaper the details over the shooting. Can hear the ambulance sirens now.

[JamBoy3]

Was sitting in Restaurante Azul when a series of gunshots in the alley went off. Everyone in the restaurant hit the floor. After the shooting stopped, the diners and myself went to the balcony to see the scene. Looked like a non-pro woman was shot (looked like some type of waitress in a white shirt) and lying in front of the Golden Palace Bar and the police were on the scene, motioning people away from the woman as if she were dangerous. The paraditas who normally stand next to Restaurante Azul ran into the restaurant then up to the 2 d floor balcony. Likely will find out tomorrow in the newspaper the details over the shooting. Can hear the ambulance sirens now.I heard the shots from my room at Cascadas last night while I was sleeping. Very scary stuff and it's the main reason I never wander around the zona or even go into HK past sundown.

[MongerHunger]

Was sitting in Restaurante Azul when a series of gunshots in the alley went off. Everyone in the restaurant hit the floor. After the shooting stopped, the diners and myself went to the balcony to see the scene. Looked like a non-pro woman was shot (looked like some type of waitress in a white shirt) and lying in front of the Golden Palace Bar and the police were on the scene, motioning people away from the woman as if she were dangerous. The paraditas who normally stand next to Restaurante Azul ran into the restaurant then up to the 2 d floor balcony. Likely will find out tomorrow in the newspaper the details over the shooting. Can hear the ambulance sirens now.It seems that shootings / killings are happening more frequently in Zona Norte and in our mongering spots. The police and military forces are usually reactionary after something happens. They are not a deterrent to some of these hardcore thugs and mentally unstable people.

[Captain Solo]

To Travv.

A couple meseros and 1 mesera, all wearing white shirts, are always out in front touting bar Gold Palace. The chubby mesera in white shirt was always out in front, looking at me intently like she was waiting for something from me, which I thought was unusual. The bar hardly ever had customers. I don't know how they stay in business.

Last Saturday night I walked by, asked a mesero to lit my cigarette. She was out in front looking at me again. So she may be a drug dealer. Too bad violence is everywhere in Mexico.

Policia posted 4 armed guys in front of hotel Edouardo. Perhaps they were serious about catching the dealers, but of course they were all gone.

[JamBoy3]

It seems that shootings / killings are happening more frequently in Zona Norte and in our mongering spots. The police and military forces are usually reactionary after something happens. They are not a deterrent to some of these hardcore thugs and mentally unstable people.I did notice more police cars in the alley on Tuesday. It's interesting that going into HK the day after the shooting, nothing seemed different. Same amount of American mongers as usual. I wonder if there's a tipping point when the foreign customers will stay away, or if the lure and convenience of Tijuana is always going to be worth the risk.

[StRobert]

I did notice more police cars in the alley on Tuesday. It's interesting that going into HK the day after the shooting, nothing seemed different. Same amount of American mongers as usual. I wonder if there's a tipping point when the foreign customers will stay away, or if the lure and convenience of Tijuana is always going to be worth the risk.Television Tijuana channel 12 informs that to the city to fight with crime came to help 130 gendarmes and later Mexican Navy original link http://xewt12.com/acciones-contra-crimen-organizado/ Google translate: ". Tijuana, Baja California, September 11,2018. Support the patrols and coordinate actions to reduce crime rates in the city, will be the function of the 130 elements of the gendarmerie that arrived earlier this week to

the city of Tijuana.

Their actions will go from prevention, to the frontal attack to the narcomenudeo, the intention is to add them to attend the polygons of higher criminal index of the city.

The gendarmes will be assigned mainly in the city of Tijuana, where the homicides exceed 1,600 cases, in addition, estimate that in the near future personnel of the Sedena and the Navy will join this region of the republic.

[Hargow20]

I was in Tijuana yesterday evening and police presence seemed about normal. While the shootings are a bit worrisome. A increase in ratero and potential mugging activity is the main thing to be concerned about. When I was walking to across the pedestrian bridge the police seemed to searching everyone on the the stairs. I did notice the police were searching more people than normal in the alley.


I did notice more police cars in the alley on Tuesday. It's interesting that going into HK the day after the shooting, nothing seemed different. Same amount of American mongers as usual. I wonder if there's a tipping point when the foreign customers will stay away, or if the lure and convenience of Tijuana is always going to be worth the risk.

[Gilgamesh]

What I noticed today was A LOT of police cars and more polica in the streets in general. A few fedaralies but I prefer them to the polica as only polica have stole money out of my pockets when searching me in the past. Honestly I was a bit more worried crossing today than in the past because of what I've read here and with just standing out as a gringo by himself in general. I did take a cab to HK because of that worry, but walking around after my first pop at HK I felt safer than I did in the past. Today my biggest concern was if I'd be harrassed by the polica and I passed by Many, many, MANY cops if you want in we willnot a single problem. I can take risks when I'm by myself but after todays experience I wouldn't hesitate to bring my friends with me for a good time and I'd even bring my GF for shopping and seeing another culture as she's never been to Mexico. I didn't mind the checkpoint on the way in. Took 2 min and made me feel that the country wants to show people coming in that you can't just walk in and dump on us like they could before. Small hassle but gives me a feeling of the country of Mexico taking PRIDE in those who they allow in. Big thumbs up on that one. Perception becomes reality and I saw what looked like a tour of Chinese people going through Zona Norte. Not mongers but older men / women all following the leader with the flag. LOL.

So a big thumbs up to the leadership of Mexico for taking pride and working on getting tourists coming back to Tijuana. In the 2000's I use to see so many tourists and over the years it go less and less. Today was the worst I've ever seen it, but word of mouth will start to bring them back and if the corrupt cops don't mess it up then I think it will only get better. Taking a few 20's from tourists a day might be a great haul for the corrupt but when those tourists tell their friends and slowly they all stop coming back. Think long term and 'teach the people of Mexico how to fish instead of stealing a fish for food for a day' it's a long journey back but what I saw today was a step in the right direction. P.S. Happy Independence Day this weekend Mexico.

Edit PS I felt safe and walked back to PED East with no concerns. =)

[MongerHunger]

I did notice more police cars in the alley on Tuesday. It's interesting that going into HK the day after the shooting, nothing seemed different. Same amount of American mongers as usual. I wonder if there's a tipping point when the foreign customers will stay away, or if the lure and convenience of Tijuana is always going to be worth the risk.Less than 2 weeks ago there was another shooting in the alley near HK. I was in HK less than 24 hours after that shooting and meseros in HK were telling me that it was back to business as usual. You couldn't tell that there was a shooting earlier.

[Gilgamesh]

I'm not reading anyone mention police taking money unless you drove into Tijuana. The police stop me often and don't take my money. They stop me always within four h hundred feet of Hong Kong. The tourists stopped coming not because of the policia. It's because of the other bad things. Living in San Diego and LA, I never meet locals who go to Tijuana. The only people I meet who go are foreigners who want another stamp on the passport and 20 year old Australian chicks who love to backpack by themselves through central and south America.Yeah the polica problem was from my posts over 10 years ago. I remember when the government took away their guns and rumor was they got sling shots, but basically they were MIA which was a relief at the time because they were always robbing tourists. My buddy had a rx down there and we left a friend in AB while we grabbed some stuff from the pharmacy. Some druggie started chatting my friend and I told him to ignore and walk. Next thing the cops stopped us, cuffed us, put us in the truck and drove in circles to confuse us but we were under the arches so didn't go far and took the 500+ we had on us to let us go. Total BS but my friend was married with kids and didn't want trouble while there. I lived both in LA and SD. A guy I worked with told me about AB and CC, back then HK wasn't a place to go as it was before the remodel. Lots of guys use to cross back then and a lot of guys wanted to join me when I was in LA but didn't because of that one experience I had with the polica. I prefer lone wolfing and never bring anything (cel, cards, etc) the bandits could use to ransom me to family.

I did see a backpacker on the Trolley she crossed over too and was speaking another language on the phone. Times have changed but honestly it seemed better this trip than in the past but much fewer tourists about.

[Manny51]

Hi guys!

Going to visit Tijuana in a couple of weeks. First time in 5-6 years. Looking forward to it. Sounds like HK is still the place to be.

A couple of refresher questions:

1. How much is a taxi (in pesos) from the border to HK and back on a Saturday afternoon / night? I assume that walking is not a good idea anymore.

2. The yellow cabs are the one to take, correct?

I still have about $80 in pesos from a previous trip to Puerto Vallarta. Was planning to save some of that for the taxi. They always screw you on the conversion. I assume that the action at HK, as well as the ST room, are paid for in USD, about $80 and $20 respectively?

See you all there soon!

[MongerHunger]

Hi guys!

Going to visit Tijuana in a couple of weeks. First time in 5-6 years. Looking forward to it. Sounds like HK is still the place to be.Take Uber and do some helpful research in this forum. There is where all your questions will be answered.

P.S. Don't drink the water!

[MongerHunger]

Hi guys!

Going to visit Tijuana in a couple of weeks. First time in 5-6 years. Looking forward to it. Sounds like HK is still the place to be.

A couple of refresher questions:

1. How much is a taxi (in pesos) from the border to HK and back on a Saturday afternoon / night? I assume that walking is not a good idea anymore.

2. The yellow cabs are the one to take, correct?

I still have about $80 in pesos from a previous trip to Puerto Vallarta. Was planning to save some of that for the taxi. They always screw you on the conversion. I assume that the action at HK, as well as the ST room, are paid for in USD, about $80 and $20 respectively?

See you all there soon!Take Uber and do some helpful research in this forum. There is where all your questions will be answered.

P.S. Don't drink the water!

[Artisttyp]

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

Durante las primeras horas de este sbado fue localizada una mochila con restos humanos why una "narcomanta" en la Zona Norte.

Te puede interesar: Localizan hieleras con restos humanos why "narcomanta" en Tijuana.

De acuerdo con la Procuradura General de Justicia del Estado (PGJE) LOS hechos ocurrieron a las 03:59 horas en la calle Coahuila esquina con segundo callejand Coahuila.

Te puede interesar: Dejan "narcomanta" con cabeza de perro en la zona Centro.

En el interior de la mochila haba una extremidad inferior, la cual, hasta el momento no ha sido identificada.

TPICOS: RESTOS HUMANOS, NARCOMANTA, POLICIACA TIJUANA.


TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

During the first hours of this Saturday a backpack with human remains was located, a "narcomanta" in the North Zone.

It may interest you: They locate coolers with human remains why "narcomanta" in Tijuana.

According to the Attorney General of the State (PGJE) the events occurred at 03:59 hours on Coahuila street corner with second callejaand Coahuila.

It may interest you: They leave "narcomanta" with a dog's head in the Center area.

Inside the backpack there was a lower extremity, which, until now, has not been identified.

TOPICS: HUMAN REMAINS, NARCOMANTA, POLICACA TIJUANA.

[DramaFree11]

Take Uber and do some helpful research in this forum. There is where all your questions will be answered.

P.S. Don't drink the water!

I would agree to take Uber as much at possible, but remember in around H. Kong Zone, they there is an underground union and they are not to happy with Uber. During the day there is no issue. At night I would not mess around and get in the first available reasonably priced cab. It is getting more dangerous in the Zone and this trend will continue. As the Border continues to tighten up, the Cartels will become more desperate and will need to find other was to make money.

Be safe, better safe then sorry.

[Hargow20]

The Uber dispute is a non-issue now. I take Uber when I am heading back to the border these days. I use the taxi van's within Tijuana and for longer distances.


Take Uber and do some helpful research in this forum. There is where all your questions will be answered.

P.S. Don't drink the water!

I would agree to take Uber as much at possible, but remember in around H. Kong Zone, they there is an underground union and they are not to happy with Uber. During the day there is no issue. At night I would not mess around and get in the first available reasonably priced cab. It is getting more dangerous in the Zone and this trend will continue. As the Border continues to tighten up, the Cartels will become more desperate and will need to find other was to make money.

Be safe, better safe then sorry.

[DramaFree11]

The Uber dispute is a non-issue now. I take Uber when I am heading back to the border these days. I use the taxi van's within Tijuana and for longer distances.

Understand, what I met is you should not be standing around in front of H. Kong or in the Alley late at night, it is just not that safe anymore. You do not want to be standing around for 5-10 minutes, late at night. Better safe then sorry.

No worries.

[Hargow20]

I never have a problem getting a Uber at night. But perhaps that's because I typically leave the Zona by 10 pm.


I rarely can get uber to send a driver in zona norte, maybe they don't have a lot of drivers at night. I've also gotten into a lot of trouble walking around for better cell signal for uber at night. I don't do that any more. I just pay the five bucks for the cab and save the money by using uber on the way in or the 75 cent bus which I prefer anyway its more exciting to get on the bus with all the Mexican people, some are sexy Mexican woman, and feel like I'm in another country. You can take the bus home if you leave before dark and are willing to stand in the sidewalk although I usually just give it a minute because that street is bad news.

[Captain Solo]

If you have to wait for an UBER ride, stay away from HK's door, taxi stand and people hanging out in front of HK for extra safety. Walk further West from HK and wait near the Ninos Heroes corner would be logical.

UBER cars pick up guys and girls in front of HK's taxi stand throughout the night, no problemos. Don't let these thugs scare you. You have the right to select your ride. Just be willing and ready to fight to protect your rights when someone harass you.

[DramaFree11]

If you have to wait for an UBER ride, stay away from HK's door, taxi stand and people hanging out in front of HK for extra safety. Walk further West from HK and wait near the Ninos Heroes corner would be logical.

UBER cars pick up guys and girls in front of HK's taxi stand throughout the night, no problems. Don't let these thugs scare you. You have the right to select your ride. Just be willing and ready to fight to protect your rights when someone harass you.

Guys, standing around Night Clubs or Strip Club any where in the world late night is not a good idea. Over $1-2, just get the hell out of here. Safety first, no reason to take big risks for little money. Live to party another night!

[MongerHunger]

If you have to wait for an UBER ride, stay away from HK's door, taxi stand and people hanging out in front of HK for extra safety. Walk further West from HK and wait near the Ninos Heroes corner would be logical.

UBER cars pick up guys and girls in front of HK's taxi stand throughout the night, no problemos. Don't let these thugs scare you. You have the right to select your ride. Just be willing and ready to fight to protect your rights when someone harass you.I had an Uber pick me up across the street in front of the OXXO. Seems to be a good pick up spot.

[Artisttyp]

Right in front of Hotel Ceci!

WAR ZONE.

Un muerto why un lesionado en ataque armado en la Zona Norte.

Un muerto why un lesionado en ataque armado en la Zona Norte.

Se report a dos personas lesionadas por disparos de arma de fuego en la va pblica sobre la avenida Constituciand why Coahuila en la Zona Norte. Foto: Margarito Martnez.

Escuchar.

Por: Redacciand / GH.

26/09/2018 20:39.

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

Un muerto why un lesionado en ataque armado en la Zona Norte.

ADVERTISING.

Se report a dos personas lesionadas por disparos de arma de fuego en la va pblica sobre la avenida Constituciand why Coahuila en la Zona Norte.

TE PUEDE INTERESAR: Asesinan a polica why hieren a otro.

Al lugar arrib la Polica Municipal as como socorristas de Cruz Roja quienes revisaron a LOS lesionados, declarando sin vida a uno en el lugar.

TE PUEDE INTERESAR: 2 muertos why un lesionado en distintos puntos de TIJ en una hora.

La otra vctima fue trasladada al hospital de emergencia en condiciand crtica.

No se reportaron a personas detenidas con relaciand a LOS hechos.


Two people were reported injured by gunfire in the public thoroughfare on Constituciand why Coahuila Avenue in the North Zone.

YOU CAN BE INTERESTED: Police are killed because they hurt another.

The Municipal Police arrived at the place, as well as Red Cross rescue workers who checked the injured LOS, declaring the lifeless one in the place.

YOU CAN BE INTERESTED: 2 deaths because one injured in different points of TIJ in one hour.

The other victim was transferred to the emergency hospital in critical condition.

They were not reported to people detained in relation to the facts.

[Artisttyp]

Matan a mujer a balazos en la Zona Norte de Tijuana.

Matan a mujer a balazos en la Zona Norte de Tijuana.

El homicidio ocurrió alrededor de las 19:15 horas. Foto: Archivo.

Escuchar.

Por: Ángel F. González.

27/09/2018 10:37.

TIJUANA, Baja California (GH).

Una mujer murió tras ser atacada a balazos en la Zona Norte durante la noche del miércoles.

ADVERTISING.

A las 19:15 horas, oficiales de la Policía Municipal acudieron a la calle Constitucióand, esquina con Coahuila, donde se reportó un ataque armado.

Te puede interesar: Un muerto why un lesionado en ataque armado en la Zona Norte.

En el lugar, localizaron a una mujer de 35 años, con lesiones de proyectil en la cabeza; la víctima fue atendida por paramédicos why trasladada al Hospital General, donde falleció momentos después.

Además, una joven de 20 años, identificada como LíDIA Hernández, fue declarada como fallecida en el mismo hospital en la madrugada de hoy.

Te puede interesar: Mochila con restos humanos why "narcomanta" son localizadas en la Zona Norte de Tijuana.

En 2018 han sido asesinadas 177 mujeres en Tijuana.

TÓPICOS: HOMICIDIOS EN TIJUANA, POLICIACA TIJUANA.

At 7:15 pm, Municipal Police officers went to Constitution Street, on the corner of Coahuila, where an armed attack was reported.

It may interest you: One dead and one injured in armed attack in the Northern Zone.

In the place, they located a 35-year-old woman, with projectile injuries to the head; The victim was treated by paramedics and transferred to the General Hospital, where he died moments later.

In addition, a 20-year-old girl, identified as LíDIA Hernández, was declared dead in the same hospital at dawn today.

It may interest you: Backpack with human remains and "narcomanta" are located in the North Zone of Tijuana.

In 2018 177 women have been murdered in Tijuana.

TOPICS: HOMICIDES IN TIJUANA, POLICIACA TIJUANA.

[Captain Solo]

To Artisttype.

Saturday night I was eating Tijuana's best shrimp coctele at the school girl corner on Constitucion.

A witness said a guy shot and killed 2 women who work at one of the stores within 100 feet of that corner. He quickly dropped the 2 women on the sidewalk with only 2 bullets, so it was a pro hit. There were no collateral damages. The witness said there was likely problems with some shady transactions, like drugs.

Saturday night half a dozen young girls were out at that corner, kidding around in their short plaid high school skirts, pretty young smiling faces, long legs, big boobs and all. My heart and sexy life must go on in La Zona, hehe.

[Captain Solo]

Saturday night I stuck my personal debit card into the trusty Scotia ATM next to Adelita trying to get some pesos to donate to the chicas' orgasms.

I have used this ATM for 15 years without any fraud problems. But the next morning on Sunday someone tried to withdraw $302 from an ATM at Golden Plains Credit Union in Garden City, Kansas. Lucky my bank detected suspicious activity so it blocked the withdrawal, but it pissed me off. Some criminals were able to tap into the data stream and copy the card data as well as the PIN#. This problem has not happened to me in the last 20 years, ever. I am guessing criminals can tap into the data stream coming from anywhere in the world. So any ATM may be vulnerable. In this case the thieves are in another state, may be Kansas, and went to local ATMs to withdraw. They had to know the PIN to withdraw $300 plus $2 fee.

Another bro also reported theft out of his ATM card after using the machine in front of bar Valentina.

Effective immediately I will change the PIN and stop using debit or credit cards in Mexico.

[Captain Solo]

Saturday night I stuck 2 debit cards into the Scotia ATM for pesos, but both were rejected, could not be processed, before it asked for any PINs. So the Scotia ATM could not have copied my debit cards numbers and PINs.

7 weeks ago I was trying to withdraw money from the Scotia ATM but it was down. I had to use the Banco Mulitva machine in the alley. To make sure I won't be ripped off for big money by an unfamiliar machine, I used a debit card with low balance and gave it the PIN. That smaller debit card was breached this week. So some criminals, may be even Banco Multiva's employees, tapped into the Banco Mulitiva's "secured" data stream and copied the account number with the PIN, sold it to someone who copied them into a fake card, and withdrew $300 today from an ATM in Kansas. Damn. My bank suspected a theft and canceled the card. They are also trying to recover that money.

Just a heads up to the bros, not to use unfamiliar ATMs. I have been using the Scotia machine next to Adelita for 15 years without any problems. I think it's secured and will try it again with the new debit card. I have to go into my bank web site and program specific overseas locations where I withdraw cash.

[Captain Solo]

Bottom line is to avoid unknown, small-time ATMs and use only big US or international banks' ATMs when absolutely necessary.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/09/whos-behind-bluetooth-skimming-in-mexico/comment-page-1/

[MongerHunger]

Bottom line is to avoid unknown, small-time ATMs and use only big US or international banks' ATMs when absolutely necessary.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/09/whos-behind-bluetooth-skimming-in-mexico/comment-page-1/I remember talking about this subject not long ago. It was advised against risking debit / credit card activities in and around the Coahuila Strip. Some bros only make cash transactions and bring a sufficient amount of cash with them. In case of an emergency need for more cash always use reputable bank branch locations away from shady ATMs and people.

[Captain Solo]

To Monger Hunger.

3 of us withdrew cash from the Banco Multiva ATM in front of bar Valentina on August 11 2018.2 had our cards hacked; the 3rd guy has not checked his bank statement. Those ATMs definitely had blue-tooth reading devices installed and have been stealing from everyone who used them. Avoid them like a plague. It's safer to withdraw money in the US then exchanged for pesos at the money booths.

Bank Ameriica found the suspected withdraw, canceled the card, credit me the lost money and had me file a complaint online for them to prosecute the thief. My bank will deal with Banco Multiva, who can trace the transactions back to the exact hacked ATMs and hopefully the hackers. 98% of violent crimes in Mexico went uninvestigated.

I remember talking about this subject not long ago. It was advised against risking debit / credit card activities in and around the Coahuila Strip. Some bros only make cash transactions and bring a sufficient amount of cash with them. In case of an emergency need for more cash always use reputable bank branch locations away from shady ATMs and people.

[Travv]

Went by City Hall and picked up a flyer and some free coupons. Starting pay $4000 pesos a month. HK girls can make that in less than a day, tax free. FYI. The motorcycle cops like to hang out at gas stations near intersections and get you when you speed up to get through the green light before it changes. Speed limit absurdly low - 30 Kilometers per hour. About 23 miles per hour. Cuidado, the ticket is more than 2000 pesos.

[Ctytek]

Went by City Hall and picked up a flyer and some free coupons. Starting pay $4000 pesos a month. HK girls can make that in less than a day, tax free.That's about $2,700 a year. Crazy. No wonder the cops resort to bribe and corruption to supplement this so-called "income".

[CaptJackSparro]

Don't use ATMs in Zona Norte. Period.

The US dollar one next to Adelitas was compromised last time I used it. Bank caught it.

Treat ZN trips like you would a casino. Leave your ATM card at home and only take what you are willing to lose.

ZN is a very corrupt place that is very much under the grips of organized crime even though there is a police presence. The police are pretty much there to make sure only sanctioned business continues as usual, not to stop crime.

Everyone knows about the back alley drug dealers who scatter when the obvious police car turns onto the street and those popular ATMs have been getting skimmed for years.

If the police really cared they could shut these activities down overnight. But they don't.

If you absolutely need to use the ATM for some reason (like you forgot to leave yourself enough for cab fare and don't have uber) ID call my bank the next day to get a new card / report it stolen so that no one can even attempt to withdraw funds.

[Captain Solo]

Tuesday night had a good time eating, drinking, partying with the bros, flirting with girls on the streets and in HK. The bro just got his Global Entry card, using it the first to cross back. The CPB woman told him he needed to call in to activate the card. She sent us to Secondary Inspection.

The bulky CBP agents made us drive through their X-ray machine, then to the parking space to wait. 2 agents went into my car searching thoroughly in engine bay, trunk, under the car. , tapping panels and very carefully in all crevices inside the car. They also did body searches on us, including groping our crotches under the balls. I have never undergone such thorough inspection in 20+ years crossing Mexico border. Looks like CBP expected to find contraband and to bust us. They found nothing and let us go in about 30 minutes.

Since I have never been searched so intensively over 20 years, the bro was the only new variable. He's a nice, clean, law-abiding guy. The only probable cause is, his name may be matching some bad dudes in CBP database.

It's not wise to bring back anything other than some cooked food or 1 liquor bottle per person. CBP can be a bunch of real bad asses with their targets.

[CaptJackSparro]

Maybe the agents at the booths only have access to limited information about people once their card is activated but not until then. If nothing shows until activated they may have probably cause to believe the card your friend has is fake because they can't look up the member number until the card is active.

Makes sense that not all agents who scan your passport need access to all your personal information that only higher up supervisors etc would need to see.

Sounds like they treated you like you were trying to bring someone across who wasn't yet authorized to use trusted traveler lanes.

You'd think they could see status as pending activation or something but government is very rigid and I doubt they can see information until active for the privacy issues I mentioned.

Very strange that your friend would attempt to use the card without activating it. That's like trying to use an ATM card even though it has a huge sticker that you have to peel off that says it has to be activated before using. Either bogus story or your friend isn't too bright.


Tuesday night had a good time eating, drinking, partying with the bros, flirting with girls on the streets and in HK. The bro just got his Global Entry card, using it the first to cross back. The CPB woman told him he needed to call in to activate the card. She sent us to Secondary Inspection.

The bulky CBP agents made us drive through their X-ray machine, then to the parking space to wait. 2 agents went into my car searching thoroughly in engine bay, trunk, under the car. , tapping panels and very carefully in all crevices inside the car. They also did body searches on us, including groping our crotches under the balls. I have never undergone such thorough inspection in 20+ years crossing Mexico border. Looks like CBP expected to find contraband and to bust us. They found nothing and let us go in about 30 minutes.

Since I have never been searched so intensively over 20 years, the bro was the only new variable. He's a nice, clean, law-abiding guy. The only probable cause is, his name may be matching some bad dudes in CBP database.

It's not wise to bring back anything other than some cooked food or 1 liquor bottle per person. CBP can be a bunch of real bad asses with their targets.

[DramaFree11]

The same thing happen to me in Laredo, the first 5 minutes it was funny, after 20 minutes I started getting real pissed off. I told the agent, "I hope you are proud of yourself you just waited 30 minutes. There were 4-5 guys going through my car, what a joke. I told the guy do I real look like a smuggler.

[CaptJackSparro]

LOL dude its their job. They get paid no matter how they spend their time during their shift. To be honest its probably entertaining for them to do a secondary inspection where the person gets really pissed off. Its certainly more interesting that standing around all day.


The same thing happen to me in Laredo, the first 5 minutes it was funny, after 20 minutes I started getting real pissed off. I told the agent, "I hope you are proud of yourself you just waited 30 minutes. There were 4-5 guys going through my car, what a joke. I told the guy do I real look like a smuggler.

[DramaFree11]

LOL dude its their job. They get paid no matter how they spend their time during their shift. To be honest its probably entertaining for them to do a secondary inspection where the person gets really pissed off. Its certainly more interesting that standing around all day.

Agree, but when they take it to another level for no reason, I think we have right to complain. My opinion no big deal.

[Travv]

" . . . It happened at a cooking class outside of Oaxaca in southern Mexico that had been recommended to us by family friends. One minute we were eating homemade mole, and the next minute men with guns had rounded the whole class up in a storage closet, tied our hands with zip ties and demanded our valuables.

Decisions born of sheer luck turned out to make a huge difference. Our passports, which we usually carry with us, were nestled safely in the hotel's lockbox. Once my wallet was stolen, carrying a credit card separately from it turned out to be a lifesaver. Only one of our family's cellphones had been taken, so we were able to get in touch with family and friends back home. Then, at the packing stage, be intentional about what you're bringing. "I tell folks, 'You should pack your luggage as if you'll never see it again,' " said Kevin Coffey, a retired Los Angeles Police Department detective-sergeant and travel safety consultant who speaks to Fortune 500 companies about travel security. Take an inventory of your valuables for insurance purposes. Homeowner and renter insurance policies should cover vacation theft, but the policies are subject to certain limitations, especially on cash, jewelry, computers and other higher-value items, which should be insured separately, Montgomery-Baisden said. You will need a police report and receipts for the items in question to make a claim with your insurance company, she added.

Another crucial item to protect: your passport. Make at least one physical copy of your passport and, to be extra careful, encrypt a digital copy of it, too, McElroy said. Also consider "sanitizing" your wallet and / or purse of everyday items that aren't needed on vacation, Coffey said. If you lose your wallet or purse, you should know what was in it, Coffey said; limiting the contents also mitigates the potential damage.

Financial steps need to be taken, too. It's good practice to set up and fund a bank account that's separate from your main one, McElroy said. You can then take a debit card for that account out, and, should anything happen, your other cards will be locked in the hotel safe and you won't lose access to your main bank account. (And, in the event you were forced to withdraw money from an ATM, even at home, you could use that card.) Also think about how you would get emergency cash if your wallet were stolen, Coffey advised. This could involve a precautionary call to your bank to iron out those details. Some banks may be able to get a credit card sent to your hotel, he said.

Getting a phone stolen can cause a good deal of damage, especially if it has banking apps or passwords on it. Travelers should set passwords for their devices, turn on the encryption setting — which will "help minimize what happens when someone gets your device" — and turn on apps like Find my iPhone, so they can delete a phone's data in case of theft, McElroy said. Back up camera memory cards and anything on a laptop that's being taken on vacation, Coffey said. . . https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-i-learned-after-being-robbed-at-gunpoint-in-mexico-2017-08-18.

Carry a throwaway wallet. When thieves robbed me, they ran off as soon as they found the throwaway wallet with about $5, leaving me with the passport, credit cards that was hidden elsewhere etc.

[Captain Solo]

Witness the US Department of Justice's draconian grip of criminals overseas. They cannot escape.

But POTUS Donald Trump should not pay $250 K a year to house and feed each of these violent crimnals for the rest of their lives in Max Security Penitetiary. That money can be used to educate 20 smart US kids.

The US has gotten too soft. Perhaps the old French penal colonies shoudl be used to deal with hardened, violent criminals. Put them in a lepers' island in the middle of the Pacific and made them work for their food, perhaps cultivating MJ and poppies for medical sales.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/10/cjng-tijuana-el-piolinabout-to-be.html?m=1

Tuesday, October 23,2018.

CJNG Tijuana: "El Piolín"about to be extradited to the US.

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat- from Zeta Tijuana-thank you Neal.

Juan José Pérez Vargas "El Piolíand", who was leader of the Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacióand (CJNG) in Tijuana and was in charge of expanding the presence of this criminal organization at the cost of hundreds of murders in the city, is waiting to be extradited to the United States to face charges for drug trafficking.

Since September 20,2017 in a prison in Guadalajara, Jalisco, the 37-year-old man has been wanted by the Southern District Court of California, in San Diego, California.

At the time of his arrest, the Mexican government reported that the boss of the CJNG in Tijuana had been located with cash and weapons when he was in Guadalajara to visit his mother.

On October 16th, the Department of Justice of the United States announced the implementation of an operation to dismantle the five main criminal organizations in the world, including the CJNG, and revealed the charges against Pérez Vargas, assuring at that time there was an arrest warrant issued on January 30,2017.

According to the indictment presented in September 2016 before a Grand Jury of the Southern District Court of California and endorsed by it on January 27,2017, "El Piolín" faces charges for introducing methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and marijuana from Mexico to the United States.

For this reason, he is accused of charges of international conspiracy to distribute controlled substances and conspiracy to import controlled substances.

With the entrance of the CJNG to Tijuana in 2015, the number of homicides has reached historical statistics and continues to increase every year.

The dispute initiated by allies with the Arellano Félix Cartel to confront the Sinaloa Cartel and allowed them to use the Baja California corridor to transfer drugs to North America and dominate the retail sale of narcotics in some areas of Tijuana.

For each of the two charges against him, "El Piolín" could purge a minimum sentence of ten years and a maximum of life imprisonment. In addition, if found guilty, two fines of 10 million dollars would be imposed.

El Piolin Juan Jose Perez-V. By on Scribd.

[Bbond]

Witness the US Department of Justice's draconian grip of criminals overseas. They cannot escape.Which actually accomplishes nothing. Way too much money to be made. Groups just splinter into different groups.

If the entire drug trade from Mexico was halted, does anyone believe the drug problem would go away? Did prohibition work? No, where there's a market, suppliers will supply that market, one way or another. Just way too much money involved to believe differently.

[Captain Solo]

To Bbbond,

Locking them up and seizing all their assets and money will put an end to it.

Colombia did clean up the drug cartels and all their violence.

[Bbond]

To Bbbond,
Locking them up and seizing all their assets and money will put an end to it.
Colombia did clean up the drug cartels and all their violence.Colombia is better than before, but is still very bad.

"We can't be naive and think that drug trafficking will end with FARC," Gen. Jorge Rodriguez Peralta, the commander of a police special-forces division, told The Washington Post in February. "There's too much money to be made."

Source https://www.businessinsider.com/colombia-farc-peace-plan-drug-production-and-trafficking-problems-2016-8.

[Captain Solo]

To Bbond,

No country can ever eradicate all crimes all the time.

The best scenario is to contain crimes so criminals don't rule the normal people.

[MongerHunger]

Mexico is now aiming to legalize drugs and making opium poppies a legal crop citing that the current policy has resulted in more than a quarter of a million murders (250,000) in the country. Check out this November 1, 2018 article:

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2018/11/01/Shift-in-Mexico-drug-policy-would-focus-on-legalization-health/1641541080953/

[CaptJackSparro]

This is probably the best thing they can do to take power away from the cartels. Countries like Portugal where all drugs are legal seem kore sane and less corrupt.

I'm sure the US would benefit for a while with the amount of people from Tijuana who would legally buy weed in San Diego and then take it back home across the border without fear of ruin.

Its funny that prostitution is legal, meaning you can put yourself into other people, but someone can't put certain chemicals into their own body.


Mexico is now aiming to legalize drugs and making opium poppies a legal crop citing that the current policy has resulted in more than a quarter of a million murders (250,000) in the country. Check out this November 1, 2018 article:

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2018/11/01/Shift-in-Mexico-drug-policy-would-focus-on-legalization-health/1641541080953/

[Bbond]

To Bbond,
No country can ever eradicate all crimes all the time.
The best scenario is to contain crimes so criminals don't rule the normal people.Since 2009 33 of the top 37 drug lords have been killed or captured. And things turned worse since that started happening. Not better.

Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexico%27s_37_most-wanted_drug_lords.

[Captain Solo]

After midnight took the car from HK's valet, heading back to the border via the old taxi route, ie Medico lane, rotary then Pueblo Amigo, SENTRI lane ect.

At the rotary you turn, a policia car was ahead of us, but slowed down, waiting for us to pass, so I know the stupid bastards were going to pull me over. Near Caliente / Pueblo amigo, they turned on their flashing beacon. I continued on and stopped in front of the casino for the extra street light.

2 unidentified porkers came over, shining flash lights into the car. They asked to see driver license and registration. I tried a new tactics, asking them a pleasant "Hola, como esta?" and gave them the business card from Tijuana's Internal Affairs' attorney. They asked me out of the car in front of their bright head lights. They were looking at that business card, talking among themselves, looking shaky. They asked me what my profession; I said abogado. They looked even more shaky, actually scared.

They asked me a couple perfunctory questions:

Were you drinking alcohol? Are you sure? I said I was not drinking, I was sure, my breath reeking of Chicago's beers.

Do you carry any drugs? No I carry no drugs.

Did you break any laws? No I did not break any laws. I always respect mexico's laws, like I was going to tell them if I did any crime!

I took back my license and got back in the car, memorizing their car number. Meanwhile I wingman had been briefed about holding money and wallet in hands if searched. They never asked him to get out of the car as they knew they could not fuck with us. They could not rob or steal from us unless we are weak and stupid to let them steal. I urge the bros to stand firm and stay cool to protect their rights in Mexico.

One of my wingmen went down to Tijuana only his third time, driving his own car for a body repair job. He got to Tijuana at 5 AM and had nowhere to go but HK. The shop does not open until about 10, after Rubin Carrillo finishes a few BB sessions with his hot novia in Playas. HK meseros gave him copious directions to get to the cheapest body shop in Tijuana, IE Carrillo on Calle 3rd, on the way into Centro, but he got lost in downtown Tijuana. A motorcycle cop was very nice, giving him directions, but he got lost again. Finally the cop just led him to the shop. He tried to tip the cop but he declined. That was the first positive news about Tijuana policia I heard in all 18 years hehe.

[Travv]

The policia, like ladrones, prefer the night when the local public can't see what they are doing. My problems with policia have been at night while driving and from your article, so do you. Solution: get a hotel room for the night and stop driving when the policia are watching the streets to and from Zona Norte for quick tourist shakedowns from guys who are carrying a heavy burden of dollars. Try to park your car for the night before dusk. Like vampires, the policia will start hunting for tourists with California license plates when the night arrives. Don't let them drain your wallet!


After midnight took the car from HK's valet, heading back to the border via the old taxi route, ie Medico lane, rotary then Pueblo Amigo, SENTRI lane ect.

At the rotary you turn, a policia car was ahead of us, but slowed down, waiting for us to pass, so I know the stupid bastards were going to pull me over. Near Caliente / Pueblo amigo, they turned on their flashing beacon. I continued on and stopped in front of the casino for the extra street light.

2 unidentified porkers came over, shining flash lights into the car. They asked to see driver license and registration. I tried a new tactics, asking them a pleasant "Hola, como esta?" and gave them the business card from Tijuana's Internal Affairs' attorney. They asked me out of the car in front of their bright head lights. They were looking at that business card, talking among themselves, looking shaky. They asked me what my profession; I said abogado. They looked even more shaky, actually scared..

[DramaFree11]

After midnight took the car from HK's valet, heading back to the border via the old taxi route, ie Medico lane, rotary then Pueblo Amigo, SENTRI lane ect.

At the rotary you turn, a policia car was ahead of us, but slowed down, waiting for us to pass, so I know the stupid bastards were going to pull me over. Near Caliente / Pueblo amigo, they turned on their flashing beacon. I continued on and stopped in front of the casino for the extra street light.

2 unidentified porkers came over, shining flash lights into the car. They asked to see driver license and registration. I tried a new tactics, asking them a pleasant "Hola, como esta?" and gave them the business card from Tijuana's Internal Affairs' attorney. They asked me out of the car in front of their bright head lights. They were looking at that business card, talking among themselves, looking shaky. They asked me what my profession; I said abogado. They looked even more shaky, actually scared.

They asked me a couple perfunctory questions:.Sorry, guys it is just not worth it driving to HK, just park an the other side and walk, unless you are worried about Passport Stamps. It just takes one time for trouble to find you. As the border tights up, the Cops, Criminal and Cartels are going to become more desperate.

[RikyMichaels7]

I stay at my girlfriends house in a colonia called Castillo on many weekends. It is right next to the highway that leads to Rosarito and minutes from La Coahuila. She has a little one bedroom apartment that she pays 150 dollars a month for. Her apartment owner and neighbors are very nice people. They often have parties in the complex which are fun. I hear gunfire outside of her apartment all he time. The other night we heard 6 rounds go off, sounded real close. We walked outside to see about 12 police cars. In the complex next to ours a couple got in a fight and the boyfriend shot her 6 times. She was alive but died in the hospital.

My girlfriend used to work in Bar tropical but quit after that guy came in and shot his girlfriend and after she got punched in the face by a client for not giving up her cell phone. Dangerous city. Dangerous bar.

[Captain Solo]

To Travv,

I hear you about avoiding driving at night, but policia will also pull cars over and rough up pedestrians in day light. So what do you do? Stop walking and driving altogether? The bigger threat is not the policia, but the junky rateros who hold knives to your throat to rob your wallet, then probably just slash it for fun. Also far worse is the occasional policia alcohol check point on Benito Juarez on Friday after midnight. I passed the alcohol checks 3 times in the last 5 years that I drove.

Gotto admit Tijuana policia seems to target California cars at night. The stupid policia assholes were always following me, but more likely because I drive a bright-red sports car that looks exotic and expensive, that was not sold in Mexico. More than once groups of Tijuanasens have stopped my car on the street, asking me what kind of car, and where I bought it. So the polica retards really thought they found Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos cruising Tijuana for street meats hehe.

I don't like to sleep in Tijuana due to the loneliness factor of the night and the disgust I feel for filthy streets and crumbling buildings in the day light. I would spend the night if I have the company of pretty, young, fun girls who can speak sweet English and are hot for sex anytime of the night, like the students I bagged in Manila. Damn. Tijuana would be so much sexier If I could find pretty escorts who would do all day dates, going out for food and staying out in bed all night for sex, without breaking the bank hehe.

The policia, like ladrones, prefer the night when the local public can't see what they are doing. My problems with policia have been at night while driving and from your article, so do you. Solution: get a hotel room for the night and stop driving when the policia are watching the streets to and from Zona Norte for quick tourist shakedowns from guys who are carrying a heavy burden of dollars. Try to park your car for the night before dusk. Like vampires, the policia will start hunting for tourists with California license plates when the night arrives. Don't let them drain your wallet!

[Captain Solo]

To Drama,

Sorry you cannot convince me to walk and face hungry rateros with their knives. Guys who walk over that pedestiran bridge will one day get a knife stuck in their gut. If not the policia is always body searching pedestrian for drugs. You remember how your twin brother, Porsche, got robbed by 6 big men and women, also shaken down repetitively by pissed-off policias?

If stopped by policia assholes at night, at least they don't point a knife at my face. I always take down their car number and let them know I would fuck them up badly if they rob me. I feel safer resisting policias than knife-wielding rateros. Also driving over takes a lot less time so I can conserve my energy to screw multiple senoritas. I also have the car with a good GPS device in case any senoritas invite me home for home-cooked meals and spicy hot sex. Very nice to eat hot pussies after spicy tacos hehe.

Sorry, guys it is just not worth it driving to HK, just park an the other side and walk, unless you are worried about Passport Stamps. It just takes one time for trouble to find you. As the border tights up, the Cops, Criminal and Cartels are going to become more desperate.

[CaptJackSparro]

I also agree that driving across isn't really worth it. It doesn't save much time compared to walking across, especially if you park at a lot right near jack in the box ($8 weekdays. More for weekend).

The time it will take you to walk across (10-15 min) from one of those lots compared to waiting in line to drive into (5-9 pm always traffic going into Mexico) or out of Mexico (always a wait to drive back into the states. There's hardly ever a line to walk across and to come back its quick esp if you come back at night there's no wait because there's more lanes open now.

I've done both and walking across is much smoother and less stressful.

Why open yourself to all the risks associated with driving a car into Mexico (accidents with uninsured drivers, you need to buy Mexican insurance, you might get pulled over by Olivia for bribes, someone could mess with or steal your car) when you should be catching a cab to HK anyway.

Driving a car into Zona Norte with Califorbia plates is just asking to get pulled over.

I used to just drive across, park my car somewhere, and catch an uber to HK. But have switched to walking across for all of the reasons mentioned.

[Travv]

The reality is that tickets and police are far more expensive in CA than in Tijuana. Example: a seat belt ticket is around $350 in San Diego. In Tijuana, the policia usually don't bother or want $20 mordida. You are better off getting a speeding ticket (or DUI) in Tijuana that doesn't affect your car insurance in CA. While Tijuana policia are a nuisance, following the basic rule of not driving at night and staying in a hotel to avoid a DUI bust solves most of the Tijuana policia problems. Would you rather pay $20 to $100 in mordida in Tijuana or a $350 dollar speeding or seatbelt ticket in CA from the CHP? Bottomline. CHP is wor $e to deal with than Tijuana policia, so you are safer driving in Tijuana.


Sorry, guys it is just not worth it driving to HK, just park an the other side and walk, unless you are worried about Passport Stamps. It just takes one time for trouble to find you. As the border tights up, the Cops, Criminal and Cartels are going to become more desperate.

[StRobert]

After midnight took the car from HK's valet, heading back to the border via the old taxi route, ie Medico lane, rotary then Pueblo Amigo, SENTRI lane ect.

At the rotary you turn, a policia car was ahead of us, but slowed down, waiting for us to pass, so I know the stupid bastards were going to pull me over. Near Caliente / Pueblo amigo, they turned on their flashing beacon. I continued on and stopped in front of the casino for the extra street light.

I guess the private car can not use the taxi lane. This road is reserved for taxi, ambulance and Tijuana police only and maybe that's why the Tijuana police stopped you? Private car should be to stand in line at the border sometimes 1-3 hrs. I always park my car at the trolley station in Chula Vista (24 hrs free parking but you have to use the trolley because cameras watching.) I'm taking a trolley to San Ysidro ticket price one way $ 2. 50 (over 60 yo. $ 1. 25). From the border to Zona Norte taxi 10 min. The last trolley from San Ysidro is 1258 AM and the next after 430 AM. The car parking are safe and I've never had a problem.

[DramaFree11]

The reality is that tickets and police are far more expensive in CA than in Tijuana. Example: a seat belt ticket is around $350 in San Diego. In Tijuana, the policia usually don't bother or want $20 mordida. You are better off getting a speeding ticket (or DUI) in Tijuana that doesn't affect your car insurance in CA. While Tijuana policia are a nuisance, following the basic rule of not driving at night and staying in a hotel to avoid a DUI bust solves most of the Tijuana policia problems. Would you rather pay $20 to $100 in mordida in Tijuana or a $350 dollar speeding or seatbelt ticket in CA from the CHP? Bottomline. CHP is wor $e to deal with than Tijuana policia, so you are safer driving in Tijuana.You are correct about the money aspect. I am not worried about a few bucks, but I am more worried about safety. American Cops will not put drugs in your cars or worse, this is a real possibility. Just my opinion.

[Travv]

Been following the RussiaGate scandal where the FBI planted spies in a political campaign, got a FISA warrant claiming one of their own spies in the campaign was a Russian spy, therefore the campaign was collaborating with the Russians, bugged the campaign headquarters then used the fake dossier provided by the opposition campaign? Tijuana policia are babes in the woods compared to the corruption in the US police. Just look at all the FBI bigwigs like Peter Strzok who had their emails and texts leaked showing their crimes and who then were fired or resigned? Piece of advice, if you encounter an American cop, just say "I do not answer questions" and "I want a lawyer". Google Youtube for the CYA videos of the "I Do Not Answer Questions" guy and the US Cops where he tells them when they pull him for a ticket "I do not answer questions" over and over. That guy knows never to talk to the police!


You are correct about the money aspect. I am not worried about a few bucks, but I am more worried about safety. American Cops will not put drugs in your cars or worse, this is a real possibility. Just my opinion.

[Baxter Slade]

The reality is that tickets and police are far more expensive in CA than in Tijuana. Example: a seat belt ticket is around $350 in San Diego. In Tijuana, the policia usually don't bother or want $20 mordida. You are better off getting a speeding ticket (or DUI) in Tijuana that doesn't affect your car insurance in CA. While Tijuana policia are a nuisance, following the basic rule of not driving at night and staying in a hotel to avoid a DUI bust solves most of the Tijuana policia problems. Would you rather pay $20 to $100 in mordida in Tijuana or a $350 dollar speeding or seatbelt ticket in CA from the CHP? Bottomline. CHP is wor $e to deal with than Tijuana policia, so you are safer driving in Tijuana.Yea I agree with that.

Years ago after a night of drinking in Las Pulgas. The GF drove a friend of mine home in the back streets of centro. After she dropped him off she made a turn going the wrong way on a one way street headed straight for a police car. He you turned and pulled us over. I pictured being stranded in this desolate area of Tijuana, while she was carted off to jail. Instead she comes back to the car and asks for $10 so they could get some food and that was it we were on our way.

[Ctytek]

Walking from the crossing to the Zona with all your belongings and cash is just as risky as driving. Do neither. Park in San Ysidro, cross, grab a taxi to the Zona for $5 bucks. Much faster and hassle free compared to all the alternative, and you don't need to be a target driving or walking the bridge late at night.

And if you don't want stamps. Use Passport Card.


I also agree that driving across isn't really worth it. It doesn't save much time compared to walking across, especially if you park at a lot right near jack in the box ($8 weekdays. More for weekend).

The time it will take you to walk across (10-15 min) from one of those lots compared to waiting in line to drive into (5-9 pm always traffic going into Mexico) or out of Mexico (always a wait to drive back into the states. There's hardly ever a line to walk across and to come back its quick esp if you come back at night there's no wait because there's more lanes open now.

I've done both and walking across is much smoother and less stressful.

[Captain Solo]

To Travv,

I hear you about avoiding driving at night, but policia will also pull cars over and rough up pedestrians in day light. So what do you do? Stop walking and driving altogether? The bigger threat is not the policia, but the junky rateros who hold knives to your throat to rob your wallet, then probably just slash it for fun. Also far worse is the occasional policia alcohol check point on Benito Juarez on Friday after midnight. I passed the alcohol checks 3 times in the last 5 years that I drove.

Gotto admit Tijuana policia seems to target California cars at night. The stupid policia assholes were always following me, but more likely because I drive a bright-red sports car that looks exotic and expensive, that was not sold in Mexico. More than once groups of Tijuanasens have stopped my car on the street, asking me what kind of car, and where I bought it. So the polica retards really thought they found Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos cruisng Tijuana for street meats hehe.

I don't like to sleep in Tijuana due to the loneliness factor of the night and the disgust I feel for filthy streets and crumbling buildings in the day light. I would spend the night if I have the company of pretty, young, fun girls who can speak sweet English and are hot for sex anytime of the night, like the students I bagged in Manila. Damn. Tijuana would be so much sexier If I could find pretty escorts who would do all day dates, going out for food and staying out in bed all night for sex, without breaking the bank hehe.

The policia, like ladrones, prefer the night when the local public can't see what they are doing. My problems with policia have been at night while driving and from your article, so do you. Solution: get a hotel room for the night and stop driving when the policia are watching the streets to and from Zona Norte for quick tourist shakedowns from guys who are carrying a heavy burden of dollars. Try to park your car for the night before dusk. Like vampires, the policia will start hunting for tourists with California license plates when the night arrives. Don't let them drain your wallet!

[Captain Solo]

Baster proved my point.

A few times my friends had to give small bribes to Tijuana Policias for bullshit charges, we got armed escorts in patrol cars with flashing beacons all the way to the border hehe.

Years ago after a night of drinking in Las Pulgas. The GF drove a friend of mine home in the back streets of centro. After she dropped him off she made a turn going the wrong way on a one way street headed straight for a police car. He you turned and pulled us over. I pictured being stranded in this desolate area of Tijuana, while she was carted off to jail. Instead she comes back to the car and asks for $10 so they could get some food and that was it we were on our way.

[Captain Solo]

To StRobert.

Ave. Benito Juarez splits 3 ways at O'Campo. The middle lane has a sign "Col Federale. " That was the old taxi route back to the border. They just painted a red sign "Medico Lane" on the street. It leads to a guard gate which releases cars, one at a time, with medical notes into the READY lane's waiting line. If you go in that lane in the afternoon, you will get stuck with no way out for at least 1 hour. At night it's wide open. To avoid the Medico lane, drive South on Los Heroes / Via Rapida and cross over the Tijuana river at Independencia for Padre Kino.

I don't think there is restrictions for cars on the Medico lane, but the new bus lane has "Bus only" sign near the stop zone and should be avoided.

I would rather drive in Tijuana at night and confront the dumb Policia than walk in the dark and fight rateros.

[Phordphan]

The reality is that tickets and police are far more expensive in CA than in Tijuana. Example: a seat belt ticket is around $350 in San Diego. In Tijuana, the policia usually don't bother or want $20 mordida. You are better off getting a speeding ticket (or DUI) in Tijuana that doesn't affect your car insurance in CA. While Tijuana policia are a nuisance, following the basic rule of not driving at night and staying in a hotel to avoid a DUI bust solves most of the Tijuana policia problems. Would you rather pay $20 to $100 in mordida in Tijuana or a $350 dollar speeding or seatbelt ticket in CA from the CHP? Bottomline. CHP is wor $e to deal with than Tijuana policia, so you are safer driving in Tijuana.You're correct about the CHP to TJPD comparison. Nothing personal, but only noobs pay the cops with $20 bills. That's almost 400 pesos these days, and about double the amount of your average mordida.

Always carry pesos, keep your dollars elsewhere.

[ScatManDoo]

Mexico made me buy the 6 month pass the other day. This year they were letting my and others infront of me go without a stamp then all of a sudden I had to pay for that dam pass which I may not even use more then once because I need to leave California again soon. Pretty anoid with that, I should of bought the passport card I had never thought about the stamp issue. My passport would be filled up already in one year if I got a stamp every time. If you need passport card, you have to mail the passport book in. So then you have nothing for a while and if anything gets lost in the mail you may never see Hong Kong for a year.I think powerful people are messing with you. I too, would be avoid.

[StRobert]

To StRobert.

Ave. Benito Juarez splits 3 ways at O'Campo. The middle lane has a sign "Col Federale. " That was the old taxi route back to the border. They just painted a red sign "Medico Lane" on the street. It leads to a guard gate which releases cars, one at a time, with medical notes into the READY lane's waiting line. If you go in that lane in the afternoon, you will get stuck with no way out for at least 1 hour. At night it's wide open. To avoid the Medico lane, drive South on Los Heroes / Via Rapida and cross over the Tijuana river at Independencia for Padre Kino.

I don't think there is restrictions for cars on the Medico lane, but the new bus lane has "Bus only" sign near the stop zone and should be avoided.

I would rather drive in Tijuana at night and confront the dumb Policia than walk in the dark and fight rateros.I never drive a car to Tijuana. I park my car on a trolley parking lot in Chula Vista (24 HR free parking if you use a trolley). I take the trolley to San Ysidro station, cross the border and take a taxi to Zona. Back from Zona: I take a taxi to the pedeast (now there is a new building), cross the border which is next to the trolley station San Ysidro, take the trolley and return to the car on the trolley parking lot. Very easy and safe. Last trolley from San Ysidro 1258 AM next after 430 AM.

[TomJackin]

Mexico made me buy the 6 month pass the other day. They MADE you buy the 6 month FMM? This is total bullshit information! You have a choice of buying the 6 month FMM OR getting the less than 7 days FMM.

For free.

Your creditable completely sucks on this site!

[Hargow20]

I park by Border Village dr and walk down. If I am heading back at night after 8 pm then I take Uber.


I also agree that driving across isn't really worth it. It doesn't save much time compared to walking across, especially if you park at a lot right near jack in the box ($8 weekdays. More for weekend).

The time it will take you to walk across (10-15 min) from one of those lots compared to waiting in line to drive into (5-9 pm always traffic going into Mexico) or out of Mexico (always a wait to drive back into the states. There's hardly ever a line to walk across and to come back its quick esp if you come back at night there's no wait because there's more lanes open now.

I've done both and walking across is much smoother and less stressful.

Why open yourself to all the risks associated with driving a car into Mexico (accidents with uninsured drivers, you need to buy Mexican insurance, you might get pulled over by Olivia for bribes, someone could mess with or steal your car) when you should be catching a cab to HK anyway.

Driving a car into Zona Norte with Califorbia plates is just asking to get pulled over.

I used to just drive across, park my car somewhere, and catch an uber to HK. But have switched to walking across for all of the reasons mentioned.

[HorseTrader]

Mexico made me buy the 6 month pass the other day. This year they were letting my and others infront of me go without a stamp then all of a sudden I had to pay for that dam pass ....


They MADE you buy the 6 month FMM? This is total bullshit information! You have a choice of buying the 6 month FMM OR getting the less than 7 days FMM.If they scan your passport on every entry, they have a record of your crossings. Perhaps there is a limit of how many crossings are allowed without purchase of the 6-month tourist card.

On Tuesday there was no line, they scanned my passport, no paperwork, no delay, no stamp. On Wednesday there was a 20 minute line for foreigners, so I got my passport stamped, paid the $30, and did a little paperwork so I could cross for 6 months using my new 6-month tourist card in the Mexican line.

I told the desk agent that I would be crossing on almost a daily basis. The 7-day pass was never mentioned to me.

[Captain Solo]

Looks like Mexico's Immigration agents at San Ysidro would hide the free 7-day FMM and steer visitors to the $30 six-month FMM. That's a lot of money that may not go into Mexico's treasury, but may be looted by local big guys and spent wildly on HK's putas every night.

Somebody with balls should insist on the free 7-day FMM and refuse to back down unless offered by these crooked guys. If they refuse to comply with their laws, take down some names, facts, witnesses and complain to Mexico's federal government.

Don't let your asses get fucked by Mexico's lowly government clerks.

I told the desk agent that I would be crossing on almost a daily basis. The 7-day pass was never mentioned to me.

[TomJackin]

If they scan your passport on every entry, they have a record of your crossings. Perhaps there is a limit of how many crossings are allowed without purchase of the 6-month tourist card.

On Tuesday there was no line, they scanned my passport, no paperwork, no delay, no stamp. On Wednesday there was a 20 minute line for foreigners, so I got my passport stamped, paid the $30, and did a little paperwork so I could cross for 6 months using my new 6-month tourist card in the Mexican line.
I told the desk agent that I would be crossing on almost a daily basis. The 7-day pass was never mentioned to me.The free 7 day FMM is good for one entry. So you would have to repeat the process every time to cross into Mexico. There are no limits to crossing with the 6 month FMM. So you you are crossing multiple times, to save time, it is better to pay for the 6 month FMM.

It's even easier with the passport card. I received mine in less than two weeks.

[Baxter Slade]

Yes If you come often the 6 month pass is the way to go.

And in most cases the 6 month pass turns into an 8 or 9 month pass. Because if anyone bothers to check your pass and sees the 180 days that's all they look for.

Math is hard for some of them and they usually can't figure out that it is expired.

[Dcrist0527]

The free 7 day FMM is good for one entry. So you would have to repeat the process every time to cross into Mexico. There are no limits to crossing with the 6 month FMM. So you you are crossing multiple times, to save time, it is better to pay for the 6 month FMM.

It's even easier with the passport card. I received mine in less than two weeks.I don't want to get into this argument. But I will share my experience. The 7 day visa is good for 7 days, not just one entry. When I make my trips, I usually spend some time north of the border as well. When I return into Mexico later in the day, once I have that 7-day pass, I go through the Mexican line, show them the visa and they wave me through. They definitely don't mistake me for a Mexican. LOL.

I too don't understand how they made Porsche pay for the 6 month. I'm sure they have some record and maybe there were multiple hits over a set time. Maybe 1 month? Don't know, not my concern.

But just want to share for anyone that crosses back and forth for a short time. The unexpired visa does not have to be replaced every entry.

[ClamSlammer]

I too don't understand how they made Porsche pay for the 6 month.Well, if he initially stated 8 days or longer when asked about the duration of his stay, they could very well have forced him to buy the 6 month visa or turned him away completely.

[ScottHall]

Silly question, but does the 6 month visa get you back into the US?

[StRobert]

Migrants caravan update. They are tired in Mexico City, and they want buses to the US border. It looks like they want to get to the border crossing in McAllen Texas because it is closest (600 miles) IMO Tijuana is too far away link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6366177/Caravan-members-Mexico-debate-options-route- US-border. Html? Ito = social-facebook.

[HorseTrader]

Silly question, but does the 6 month visa get you back into the US?No. That just lets you enter Mexico and stay.

Bring your passport to get into USA. I've been told that USA citizens will be let back into USA without a passport, but it's a pain in the ass.

[Asting]

Yes If you come often the 6 month pass is the way to go.

And in most cases the 6 month pass turns into an 8 or 9 month pass. Because if anyone bothers to check your pass and sees the 180 days that's all they look for.

Math is hard for some of them and they usually can't figure out that it is expired.Yep exactly, and you can walk through Mexican line. No need to wait in line!

[StRobert]

Migrants caravan update. They are tired in Mexico City, and they want buses to the US border. It looks like they want to get to the border crossing in McAllen Texas because it is closest (600 miles) IMO Tijuana is too far away link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6366177/Caravan-members-Mexico-debate-options-route- US-border. Html? Ito = social-facebook.Journalist from Canada, David Menzies reports and films the caravan during the March of caravan through Mexico link https://www.therebel.media/caravan-reports.

[KC Questor]

Journalist from Canada.You should put "journalist" in quotes. The Rebel is a far-right political rag.

Some recent headlines:
Remembrance Day: The liberal establishment pretends to care about our military one day a year.
"I wish I were kidding": Trudeau's Liberals blame Trump for anti-Semitism in Canada.
Gun control wouldn't prevent Jacksonville shooting.
Michael Cohen has no information on Trump-Russia collusion.
Don McGahn's testimony "completely exonerated" Trump.
FACT-CHECK: Young people DO want to become teachers but union won't let them.

Here's what Wikipedia says about The Rebel Media.


The Rebel Media (officially The Rebel News Network Ltd., stylized as THEREBEL.media, and shortened to The Rebel) is a Canadian far-right online political and social commentary media website. It was founded in February 2015 by former Sun News Network personalities Ezra Levant and Brian Lilley. It has been described as a "global platform" for the anti-Muslim ideology, also known as counter-jihad.

Former Sun News reporter Faith Goldy later joined the outlet. Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right men's organization Proud Boys, was also a contributor. Lilley, Goldy, and McInnes have all since left the project.

Many of The Rebel's contributors announced their departure or were fired in the second half of August 2017, following Goldy's prominent coverage of the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and her interview with The Daily Stormer.

The Rebel Media broadcasts its content on the Rebel Media website and its YouTube channel, which previously peaked on August 16, 2017, at 873,800 subscribers, however with the August departures, it had fallen to a minimum of 842,200 as of August 31. In SeptemberOctober 2017 the channel resumed its growth. On August 15, 2018, it had over one million subscribers.

The Rebel Media has been described as part of the alt-right movement, although it rejected the term after the Charlottesville rally.So, yeah, not going to believe what this bullshit "news outlet" prints.

[StRobert]

You should put "journalist" in quotes. The Rebel is a far-right political rag.

Some recent headlines:
Remembrance Day: The liberal establishment pretends to care about our military one day a year.
"I wish I were kidding": Trudeau's Liberals blame Trump for anti-Semitism in Canada.
Gun control wouldn't prevent Jacksonville shooting.
Michael Cohen has no information on Trump-Russia collusion.
Don McGahn's testimony "completely exonerated" Trump.
FACT-CHECK: Young people DO want to become teachers but union won't let them.

Here's what Wikipedia says about The Rebel Media.

So, yeah, not going to believe what this bullshit "news outlet" prints.Ooops! I admit that I did not know anything about the Rebel media. I had the feeling that if a guy is a Canadian the information must be real.

[Captain Solo]

So far for first 10 months in 2018 Rosarito had 840 murders per milion population, the highest murder rate in the world with only about 10% of the cases prosecuted. On Sept 17,2018, 3 Mexican Americans shot up, killed 2 guys and injured 3 others in Love bar in Rosarito with a AR-15 and a 9 mm Beretta registered to the Sec of Defense, so these guys may be in or related to the US military. Damn. Latinos are hot-headed and violent.

Nueva Generacióand Cartel seemed to have taken control of the Tijauna drug territory with murders of dealers from the Tijuana and jalisco cartels. Baja California Director of Public Security blames the murders on drug cartels' street dealers and domestic violence, emphasizing that no tourists were murdered.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/11/violence-continues-to-rise-in-playas-de.html#more.

Violence Continues to Rise in Playas de Rosarito, BC.

Translated by Yaqui for Borderland Beat from: Zeta.

By: Inés Garcia Ramos.

Not only are the murders of the priest Arturo Orta and the former coach of Xolas, Mar Ibarra, in Rosarito; Athletes, mothers and collateral victims have also been killed. With a rate of 84 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants in the municipality, only 1 in 9 alleged perpetrators has been arrested.

From January 1 to October 31,2018: 92 people have been murdered in Playas de Rosarito. Of these homicides, 18 in October. Although the number may seem small compared to the more than 2,000 homicides registered so far this year in Tijuana, in reality this places Rosarito with a rate of 84 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants.

Since the arrival of PAN mayor Mirna Rincóand Vargas, the municipality has seen an increase in this crime. While in previous years, as in 2015 and 2016,52 and 88 victims had been counted, respectively, in 2017 the figure reached 121 people killed in 111 different events.

Of 111 investigative folders, the Attorney General of the State (PGJE) reported that only 13 cases have been prosecuted, that is, only in 11.74 percent of the cases, an alleged perpetrator was identified who is in prison and under criminal process.

The LOVE Bar allows Armed People to Enter: Owner Jesús González Lomelí Supported Mayoral Candidate Mirna Rincóand in Political Campaign. Closed and Fined 40,000 Pesos for the incident on Sept 17,2018.

Emmanuel López Lozano, who had been a baseball player since he was 12 years old, had already won children's championships. At 16 he became the state batting champion and became part of the Toros de Tijuana rookies team.

At 22, he was also a construction employee in California. On Saturday, September 15,2018, he was on the other side of the border, where he would watch the boxing match between "Canelo" and Golovkin at the LOVE bar in Playas de Rosarito with his friends.

The scene outside the LOVE Bar where 400 people were watching a Boxing match, Sept 15,2018 where 2 people were killed and at least 3 others wounded.

That night, the building located inside the Pabellóand Rosarito shopping center was packed with more than 400 people. Emmanuel and his friends were on the ground floor when they were made of words with a group of men on the top floor, who after a few minutes of shouting, started shooting down.

Around 9:30 at night, authorities received the report of detonations of firearms in the building, they were also informed of wounded and dead. Emmanuel lost his life in the place. Brenda Verónica Varela Navarrete, 31, who was at a table next to Emmanuel and her friends, also received several shots and despite being transferred to a hospital in the city, she died as a result of the injuries. Three more men were injured.

Photo: Internet taken. - Two of the 9 murderers arrested this year.

After responding to the report, Municipal Police officers followed a Toyota Tundra truck with California license plates, in which armed men had fled from the mall. Approximately one kilometer, in the Colonia Ampliacióand Reforma, they were caught and apprehended.

Luis Donaldo Zamora, 25 years old; Jesús Ricardo Mojardíand, 30; and José Luis Mendoza, 39, traveled in the truck with two pistols and a long gun, all used in the shooting of the bar. After his arrest they were presented before a judge, who released one of them.

The reason, as reported by the PGJE, was that Mendoza "was not directly linked to the scene, apparently there was no information or any indication that that person was found at the scene. ".

Although, the PGJE has three months of additional investigation period to provide more evidence to prosecute Luis Donaldo Zamora and Jesús Ricardo Mojardíand for the crimes of qualified homicide and attempted murder, the crime could have occurred because LOVE bar allowed the entry of armed people, even carrying high caliber rifles.

Mayor Mirna Rincóand with Jesús González Lomelí, owner of the LOVE Bar Playas de Rosarito, BC.

At the moment, the attorney general does not rule out that more people have fired that day, due to testimonies collected and videos from the shopping center -the bar does not have video surveillance equipment- in which more armed individuals are seen running out of the place. The three weapons confiscated are an are-15 rifle, a 9-millimeter Beretta pistol registered with the National Defense Secretariat and a short-handled FN Herstal gun.

The property is identified as the property of Jesús González Lomelí, who in February 2018 assumed the position of councilman of the VI City Council of Playas de Rosarito in his capacity as substitute before the departure of the owner councilor Luis Ricardo Cabrales Martínez. González Lomelí is also the owner of other bars in Playas de Rosarito, such as Coco Beach Bar and a seafood restaurant. During the campaign of the current mayor Mirna Rincóand Vargas, the alternate councilor of the PAN supported her in various public events.

Feminicides:

Of the 92 homicides registered in Playas de Rosarito, ten cases have been prosecuted (some with several victims) with detainees in prison and in criminal proceedings. In addition, the PGJE has completed 11 arrest warrants and the Judicial Branch has granted 15 pending orders.

One of the detainees is Diego Gracia Morales, 18, who on September 28 murdered his mother, Dolores Herlinda Gracia Morales, at the family home in Colonia Ampliacióand Plan Libertad. The young man, who after the facts had fled to Ciudad Obregóand, Sonora, was found five days later in that city by elements of the Ministerial Police and transferred to Rosarito, where a judge linked him to trial for the crime of feminicide. According to witness statements, the young man used drugs and when his mother asked him to enter a rehabilitation center, he stabbed her to death.

It is not the only case. Relatives of Edith Fernández Naranjo, a 24-year-old girl found dead on Friday, October 12, have requested the support of the authorities and the citizenry for a week to find Ricardo Hernández Gámez, the victim's partner, the main suspect of the homicide. The body of the girl was located in Palma Real in Tijuana, very close to the limits with Playas de Rosarito; authorities suspect that the homicide was committed in the house that the couple shared with their children in the Constitucióand neighborhood in Playas de Rosarito.

Edith's body, which presented cutting wounds, was wrapped in a blanket and thrown into the street, two aspects that would allow the authorities to catalog this crime as a Feminicide. Relatives of the victim report that the couple's relationship was quite conflict and even the young woman had been beaten by her husband, but weeks ago, Edith Carolina had decided to give Ricardo one more chance, so she returned to live with him together to his two small children.

According to information that the family contributed to the PGJE, Ricardo himself confessed to having murdered his wife after an argument in which Edith had taken a pair of scissors and he snatched them to stab her. However, this was referred to them by the family of the suspect, who has not been located since then.

That same weekend another woman was killed by her former partner, who after shooting him in the head, committed suicide by his side on the beach of Primo Tapia. On Saturday, October 13, a call to 911 alerted of the plight of a woman, minutes later another call reported the theft of a taxi. Actually, a day earlier, Delia Ortega Rodríguez had called 911 to report that her former partner, Óscar David Gastélum Quiroz, was out of his house, circling in his taxi, but when the agents approached, they reported not having located to the individual.

On Saturday morning, while Delia was at home, Óscar David arrived and was armed, forced her to get into the taxi she was driving, the minors who witnessed the forced act reported the events to the authorities. When the police began the search, Delia communicated by phone with her daughter to ask them to stop searching, under threats from her ex-partner, the police suspect, it was the last time her family could hear her.

Shortly after, at 12:45 pm, police found the two bodies dead at the height of Kilometer 56 of the free highway Tijuana-Ensenada, near Primo Tapia.

The PGJE determined that Óscar David Gastélum Quiroz shot Delia in the head and placed her at his side as if she were hugging him, and then shooting her in the temple. In his hand, the 38-caliber revolver with which the man committed the crime was located.

Homicides Linked to Narcomenudeo:

Although the state attorney general's office reported that each homicide has different characteristics that prevent them from forming a concrete profile on most of these crimes, the director of Public Security, Adrián Hernández Pérez, observes otherwise in the streets. He admits that in some cases it can be fights, collateral victims or femicides, "there are many drug dealers who are fighting their streets, they are not high-level criminals. Most homicides are on the streets. ".

The lieutenant attributes it to the escalation in homicides. It also refers that they have detected the murder of relatives of narcomenudistas. "They are direct attacks on people, there are no coincidences, there are no tourists killed," he adds. When talking about the cells behind these crimes, Hernández Pérez details that organizations such as the Tijuana Nueva Generacióand Cartel, the Jalisco Nueva Generacion Cartel or the Sinaloa Cartel have a presence in Rosarito, but that some lower-ranking members sell drugs in the streets of the city.

Borderland Beat Reporter Yaqui Posted at 4:53 PM.

[Captain Solo]

About 5,000 migrants, mostly Hondurans in a caravan, is leaving Mexicocity, decidign to head North to Tijuana 1,700 miles to the North West. The caravan must prefer La Zona Norte over all other Mexico's locations.

It's odd the Mexico's government would let a group of thousands illegal immigrants cruising in their territory, even offering them shelter, food and rides, like Mexico does not have economic and crime problems of her own:

http://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/latimes/default.aspx?pubid=50435180-e58e-48b5-8e0c-236bf740270e

[Bbond]

About 5,000 migrants, mostly Hondurans in a caravan, is leaving Mexicocity, decidign to head North to Tijuana 1,700 miles to the North West. The caravan must prefer La Zona Norte over all other Mexico's locations.
It's odd the Mexico's government would let a group of thousands illegal immigrants cruising in their territory, even offering them shelter, food and rides, like Mexico does not have economic and crime problems of her own:
http://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/latimes/default.aspx?pubid=50435180-e58e-48b5-8e0c-236bf740270eFrom today's Laredo newspaper, "The government of Queretaro said via Twitter that 6,531 migrants had moved through the state between Friday and Saturday. It said that 5,771 of those were departing Sunday morning after staying in three shelters it had prepared, the largest of which was a soccer stadium in the state capital. Those numbers appeared even higher than counts made by officials when the group was in Mexico City for several days, raising the possibility that other migrants have caught up to the main caravan. "

[StRobert]

About 5,000 migrants, mostly Hondurans in a caravan, is leaving Mexicocity, decidign to head North to Tijuana 1,700 miles to the North West. The caravan must prefer La Zona Norte over all other Mexico's locations.

It's odd the Mexico's government would let a group of thousands illegal immigrants cruising in their territory, even offering them shelter, food and rides, like Mexico does not have economic and crime problems of her own:

http://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/latimes/default.aspx?pubid=50435180-e58e-48b5-8e0c-236bf740270eThe scenario looks like 5000 migrants will ask for asylum at the border crossing pedeast or pedwest in Tijuana. If someone does not get asylum, he stays in Tijuana or in Mexico (like those guys from Haiti who came all the way from Brazil because they ended their contract for work in Brazil and now live in Tijuana.) If

the situation at the border will be out of control, the US may temporarily close the borders. BTW 5000 people are not many, for example, Germany (an area similar to the state of Arizona) has accepted 1 million migrants or Italy (an area like California) has received 600,000 migrants. But now both countries are trying to deport them all back.

[ScatManDoo]

The scenario looks like 5000 migrants will ask for asylum at the border crossing pedeast or pedwest in Tijuana. If someone does not get asylum, he stays in Tijuana or in Mexico (like those guys from Haiti who came all the way from Brazil because they ended their contract for work in Brazil and now live in Tijuana.) If

the situation at the border will be out of control, the US may temporarily close the borders. BTW 5000 people are not many, for example, Germany (an area similar to the state of Arizona) has accepted 1 million migrants or Italy (an area like California) has received 600,000 migrants. But now both countries are trying to deport them all back.Both Germany and Italy are indeed currently active in deporting some of their recently received refugees.

But your statement that "both countries are trying to deport them all back" is both ignorant and incorrect.

[Captain Solo]

To StRobert.

6,500 migrants in the caravan will camp out at Ped East, Ped West and Otay Mesa for months, waiting for their turns to go in CBP office to apply for asylums. That would seriously delay other pedestrians crossing the border into the US.

How can Mexico allow thousands illegal aliens to roam around their country freely? That just shows Mexico's lawlessness and her government impotent. Soon some migrants will resort to crimes in La Zona to survive.

The US has been very tolerant with illegal immigrants with millions in the Southern states. They are breaking US laws every chance they have as they feel the US is lenient, ineffective and Americans are stupid. In all other countries in the world, illegal aliens would be quickly rounded up, imprisoned and deported. The US government has organizations and people to vet the backgrounds of asylum and visas seekers. Without it, we will be wide open to losers, criminals, terrorists.

[StRobert]

Both Germany and Italy are indeed currently active in deporting some of their recently received refugees.

But your statement that "both countries are trying to deport them all back" is both ignorant and incorrect. Prime minister of Italy Matteo Salvini has a plan to deport 500,000 illegal people from Italy , just google "Italy mass deportations" A similar situation is in other countries of Western Europe. Such a policy does not make sense to me because first they accept thousands of these poor people and after a year or two they deport them.

[ScatManDoo]

Prime minister of Italy Matteo Salvini has a plan to deport 500,000 illegal people from Italy , just google "Italy mass deportations" A similar situation is in other countries of Western Europe. Such a policy does not make sense to me because first they accept thousands of these poor people and after a year or two they deport them.I repeat:

Your statement that "both countries are trying to deport them all back" is incorrect.

Doubly-so now.

[StRobert]

To StRobert.

6,500 migrants in the caravan will camp out at Ped East, Ped West and Otay Mesa for months, waiting for their turns to go in CBP office to apply for asylums. That would seriously delay other pedestrians crossing the border into the US.

How can Mexico allow thousands illegal aliens to roam around their country freely? That just shows Mexico's lawlessness and her government impotent. Soon some migrants will resort to crimes in La Zona to survive.

The US has been very tolerant with illegal immigrants with millions in the Southern states. They are breaking US laws every chance they have as they feel the US is lenient, ineffective and Americans are stupid. In all other countries in the world, illegal aliens would be quickly rounded up, imprisoned and deported. The US government has organizations and people to vet the backgrounds of asylum and visas seekers. Without it, we will be wide open to losers, criminals, terrorists.Yes, the caravan goes to Tijuana. I live near the border and I catch almost 10 TV channels from Mexico and they show the caravan every day. The first part is already in Tijuana group around 80 gay, lesbian and TS from Central America came by bus. With so many thousands of people at the border crossing can be a mess. I hope that the situation will not get out of control, because the US may even temporarily close the borders. BTW here in California I knew a few girls from Nicaragua, Guatemala and El Salvador they are very pretty and sexy. I would like to adopt one or two 18 year old chicas from this caravan!

[Simon Wagstaff]

Yes, the caravan goes to Tijuana. I live near the border and I catch almost 10 TV channels from Mexico and they show the caravan every day. The first part is already in Tijuana group around 80 gay, lesbian and TS from Central America came by bus. With so many thousands of people at the border crossing can be a mess. I hope that the situation will not get out of control, because the US may even temporarily close the borders. BTW here in California I knew a few girls from Nicaragua, Guatemala and El Salvador they are very pretty and sexy. I would like to adopt one or two 18 year old chicas from this caravan!Oh dear, I am planning on visiting San Diego the second week of December. I want to come to the Zona on a Friday afternoon. Will this caravan turn things into a mess and prevent a nice afternoon in Adelita's and Hong Kong Club?

[Dcrist0527]

Oh dear, I am planning on visiting San Diego the second week of December. I want to come to the Zona on a Friday afternoon. Will this caravan turn things into a mess and prevent a nice afternoon in Adelita's and Hong Kong Club?I, too, will be there early December. But I'm not fearful. I've read on these boards that the caravan wasn't real. That Donald Trump made it up for the election. That it was a fake FoxNews story. And I've read how other media outlets are discredited for reporting the story. The funny part is the same people who make these claims regularly attack the credibility of a few others on here.

In all seriousness, I am a little concerned. I will be staying in Tijuana but planned on crossing back a few times and spending time in San Diego as well. Now, I may be spending more time with the chicas in Tijuana. Tough price to pay. LOL.

The talk of border closings is alarming. I'm not sure what it would take to get to that point or what that would mean for US citizens. The dark, adventurous streak in me finds it interesting. But the practical part of me realizes I have flights to catch! So, I am a bit nervous.

[Hargow20]

(https://www.10news.com/news/first-group-of-migrants-from-caravan-arrive-in-tijuana).


Yes, the caravan goes to Tijuana. I live near the border and I catch almost 10 TV channels from Mexico and they show the caravan every day. The first part is already in Tijuana group around 80 gay, lesbian and TS from Central America came by bus. With so many thousands of people at the border crossing can be a mess. I hope that the situation will not get out of control, because the US may even temporarily close the borders. BTW here in California I knew a few girls from Nicaragua, Guatemala and El Salvador they are very pretty and sexy. I would like to adopt one or two 18 year old chicas from this caravan!

[Hargow20]

It's doubtful that there will be any problems in the Zona. But it's always possible there could be some problems at the border crossing if they attempt to rush the border. Your best bet is to simply monitor things on this forum and call the US customs at San Ysidro. The CBP did warn of expected delays. Hopefully the pedestrian lanes are not too affected
(https://www.10news.com/news/cbp-closing-lanes-in-san-ysidro-otay-mesa-as-migrant-caravan-approaches )


Oh dear, I am planning on visiting San Diego the second week of December. I want to come to the Zona on a Friday afternoon. Will this caravan turn things into a mess and prevent a nice afternoon in Adelita's and Hong Kong Club?

[HorseTrader]

If you go to the northeast you get way way more illegals than California. The first time I came to Cali a few years ago I was shocked to find so few illegals compared to the east coast.On what do you base this comment? To me, legals and illegals look exactly the same.

[MongerHunger]

On what do you base this comment? To me, legals and illegals look exactly the same.Don't give this guy any attention. He has already been proven to be non credible and he is a non factor. He needs to be ignored so that he can go on his merry way. People responding to his outlandish, made up, fantasized post only gives him reason to post more off the wall shit. I have learned my lesson and I'm done playing into his childish games!

[MongerHunger]

Don't give this guy any attention. He has already been proven to be non credible and he is a non factor. He needs to be ignored so that he can go on his merry way. People responding to his outlandish, made up, fantasized post only gives him reason to post more off the wall shit. I have learned my lesson and I'm done playing into his childish games!I'm talking about GNRPorsche.

[HorseTrader]

...People responding to his outlandish, made up, fantasized post only gives him reason to post more off the wall shit. .... It seems you are correct. Perhaps I would have know that if I did a better job of reading the forum.

[StRobert]

Link https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/11/13/migrant-caravan-border-tijuana-what-you-need-know/1988938002/ About 350 caravan members arrived by bus in the border city of Tijuana on Tuesday, marking the first large group of migrants to reach the USA Border after weeks of grueling walks through Central America and Mexico.

Riding on nine buses, the group rolled into Tijuana, where members are expected to unload, rest and then get in line to request asylum.

[StRobert]

American soldiers lay barbed wire and reinforce the border at Tijuana as determined 7,000-strong caravan draws ever closer. US soldiers began laying barbed wire and positioning barriers on Tuesday at San Ysidro port in San Diego link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6386293/Soldiers-lay-barbed-wire-harden-border-Tijuana-caravan-draws-closer.html?fbclid=IwAR0zewbhYW_FtKaxmZQpbSeF3Gxs3GkzLRwFxR69VJ03UJ78o29o8wD9zL0.

[StRobert]

American soldiers lay barbed wire and reinforce the border at Tijuana as determined 7,000-strong caravan draws ever closer. US soldiers began laying barbed wire and positioning barriers on Tuesday at San Ysidro port in San Diego link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6386293/Soldiers-lay-barbed-wire-harden-border-Tijuana-caravan-draws-closer.html?fbclid=IwAR0zewbhYW_FtKaxmZQpbSeF3Gxs3GkzLRwFxR69VJ03UJ78o29o8wD9zL0.Guys, don't panic! Just take it easy. Another "interesting" week in California: First shooting at the club in Thousand Oaks and 12 killed, then a big fire in Malibu and Paradise and now 7000 migrants is coming. Wow!

[JesseJames]

Guys, don't panic! Just take it easy. Another "interesting" week in California: First shooting at the club in Thousand Oaks and 12 killed, then a big fire in Malibu and Paradise and now 7000 migrants is coming. Wow!Must be global warming.

[Captain Solo]

Jesus Zambada Garcia testifies about El Chapo's criminal syndicate in Federal court in NYC:

http://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/latimes/default.aspx?pubid=50435180-e58e-48b5-8e0c-236bf740270e

[StRobert]

I, too, will be there early December. But I'm not fearful. I've read on these boards that the caravan wasn't real. That Donald Trump made it up for the election. That it was a fake FoxNews story. And I've read how other media outlets are discredited for reporting the story. The funny part is the same people who make these claims regularly attack the credibility of a few others on here.

In all seriousness, I am a little concerned. I will be staying in Tijuana but planned on crossing back a few times and spending time in San Diego as well. Now, I may be spending more time with the chicas in Tijuana. Tough price to pay. LOL.

The talk of border closings is alarming. I'm not sure what it would take to get to that point or what that would mean for US citizens. The dark, adventurous streak in me finds it interesting. But the practical part of me realizes I have flights to catch! So, I am a bit nervous.Early December should be OK. I was in Zona yesterday. Trolley to San Ysidro, border crossing pedeast, taxi to Zona and back to pedeast and trolley station San Ysidro at 11 PM. I was also on Avenida Revolucion. For now everything looked normal only I noticed barbed wire on the road for cars at the pedeast. I hope they do not send all 7000 migrants to Tijuana because there is no place in the shelters. They should distribute them to border crossings in Arizona and Texas. Organization "Pueblo Sin Fronteras" are responsible for causing this human catastrophe, and the poor people of Central America are victims.

[Captain Solo]

I hope we will not be in Tijuana when the see I see decides to close the border, or we will be oversexing, overeating, over entertained by hot chicas for a few days and nights.

Tuesday night soldiers were posted on US soil in front of the metal turnstile at PedEast, but they were not armed. Perhaps they were ordered to do fistfight when the migrants arrive and try to crash through the border.

If migrants block entries into the US, they would cause lots of problems and hardships for Mexicans who have to cross to go to work everyday. Mexico would have to send policias or troops to restore laws and order.

[Dcrist0527]

If migrants block entries into the US, they would cause lots of problems and hardships for Mexicans who have to cross to go to work everyday. Mexico would have to send policias or troops to restore laws and order.That is the reassuring part. Both the US and Mexico both want that border to function and both sides, at this point, do not seem to be willing to allow this to deteriorate into a border closing.

The interesting part will be how this plays out over weeks and months. The Mexican population is not rolling out the red carpet but it sounds like they are going to be dealing with the influx. How and where they handle them will be important for us perverts to know.

[ScatManDoo]

Early December should be OK. I was in Zona yesterday. Trolley to San Ysidro, border crossing pedeast, taxi to Zona and back to pedeast and trolley station San Ysidro at 11 PM. I was also on Avenida Revolucion. For now everything looked normal only I noticed barbed wire on the road for cars at the pedeast. I hope they do not send all 7000 migrants to Tijuana because there is no place in the shelters.I'm sure the President of Mexico can get assistance from the United States since both the US and Mexico want to keep the border areas free from disruption.

I'm sure President Trump would be happy to provide thousands of cages to house the migrants on the Mexican side of the border.

[HorseTrader]

Tuesday night soldiers were posted on US soil in front of the metal turnstile at PedEast, but they were not armed. I saw something similar, but thought it was before Tuesday. Unarmed construction group was at the sidewalk level, but plenty of armed US military personnel on top of the retaining wall to the left as you walk up the hill to the first set of ped east turnstiles.

[Captain Solo]

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/11/a-caravan-migrant-is-kidnapped-he.html?m=1

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat Thank you Lacy! Material from Superchannel 12.

He said "What are 30 assholes going to do against 30 k migrants?

It began when a Central American migrant was interviewed on video, threatening to Mexicans who are protesting against the caravan. It is unclear where this took place but most likely in Tijuana Mexico, near the POE with the United States.

He threatened to shoot Mexicans that interfered, saying, "If they want violence, that is what they will see. What are 30 assholes going to do against 30 k migrants?" he asked.

He is heard about next in a video posted on social media, after he is kidnapped and is being interrogated.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mexicans-storm-migrant-shelter-in-tijuana-shouting-for-pigs-to-leave

A hundred demonstrators trying to confront migrants from Central America clashed with riot police, telling the newcomers they aren't welcome here.

Jason McGahan 11.18. 18 9:45 PM ET.

TIJUANA, Mexico—A crowd of demonstrators clashed with anti-riot police near an emergency shelter where thousands of migrants from Central America have taken refuge in recent days.

Waving Mexican flags and singing Mexico's national anthem, a bristling crowd of a hundred or more descended on a municipal sports complex the city government has converted to a shelter to accommodate the surge of migrants who arrived here as part of the famous caravan from the south. Their ultimate destination is the United States where many plan to apply for asylum.

Young men in the crowd overturned concrete barriers set in the road for crowd control and threw plastic bottles and trash at a line of helmeted police with riot shields. Some got close and hurled insults and profanities at the police, calling them anti-patriotic for protecting the migrants, whom they variously referred to as drug addicts, thieves, gang members—even [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127) and murderers. It's the same rhetoric used by President Trump about the caravan during the run-up to the 2018 midterm elections.

TIJUANA, MEXICO. November 18: Mexican riot police block anti-immigrant protesters outside a temporary immigrant shelter on November 18,2018 in Tijuana, Mexico. Several hundred demonstrators marched to the shelter near the USA -Mexico border, demanding that members of the migrant caravan leave the country. Immigrants have been arriving to the shelter after traveling thousands of miles from Central America. John Moore / Getty.

"You're unpatriotic to be protecting a bunch of drunks and meth-heads, stoners and drug addicts," one man shouted at officers. "Your mother should have taught you better. ".

For days, police have blocked all road access to the shelter and maintained a 24-hour security detail in the hardscrabble neighborhood where it is located, a short walk from the neon-lit bars and bordellos of the red light district.

"They're not people in need. They've come here to destabilize the country. " — Tijuana resident Cristina Gómez Sandoval.

More than 3,000 migrants have arrived since Wednesday to this desert metropolis located across the border from San Diego, California. City officials say they expect the number to double in the coming days, a rate of new arrivals they say is without precedent.

Tijuana's mayor, José Manuel Gastélum, accused migrants in the caravan of being violent, crude, and "mariguanos" ("stoners") and vowed to conduct an inquiry to decide if the city will continue to welcome them. Gastélum said the city may not have the resources to continue to shelter and support the caravan.

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A Central American migrant, part of a caravan trying to reach the USA, gestures as he waits on the bridge that connects Mexico and Guatemala to cross into Mexico to continue his trip, in Ciudad Hidalgo, Mexico October 22,2018. Mexico Is Taunting Trump With the Migrant Caravan Some Africans Have Joined the Caravan of Migrants.

Trump's Army Threats Fail to Stop Caravan.

The tension started brewing on Wednesday night, when angry residents from a more affluent coastal area known as Playas de Tijuana confronted migrants who had gathered there to spend the night at a local park. A city official and several migrants present at the time said the confrontation began when men and women in the crowd attacked with stones; some of the migrants reacted aggressively.

In a video clip from the confrontation—seen widely in Tijuana via Facebook—a young man from Honduras threatens to "machine gun" anti-migrant demonstrators in the crowd.

Viral videos and memes on social media have fueled much of the sentiment against the migrants.

In another viral video, a Honduran woman complained to a news crew from Germany about a lunch of refried beans and flour tortillas migrants received at the shelter. "Look at it, it's all refried beans, the sort of thing they'd feed to pigs," she said.

Several protesters referred to the video as an indication the migrants were ungrateful. There was one sign in the crowd to the effect that Mexicans proudly eat their beans. Groups of protesters in the crowd chanted that Hondurans were "pigs. ".

Protesters decried the migrants in the caravan as "invaders" and "ingrates. " Several said the migrants overran the border checkpoint in southern Mexico.

Cristina Gómez Sandoval said she attended the protest out of concern for the threat she feels migrants in the caravan pose to public safety in Tijuana. Gómez, 40, an employee of a public relations firm, attended the protest with her 11 year-old son, Yolotl.

"They're not people in need," she said. "They've come here to destabilize the country. ".

Yolotl joined in, saying, "Get them out of the city so they don't cause harm. ".

Several motorists who drove past the protest honked their car horns in approval. One woman leaned out the window of a passing car and shouted that protesters were culeros ("assholes".

A young woman who waded into the thick of the crowd and loudly proclaimed her support for the migrants was ejected by pushing from anti-migrant demonstrators.

Later, in addressing a crush of reporters, she pointed to a tattoo on her arm that said "Pueblo unido," and said that she had acted in accordance with that sentiment.

"The people in that crowd share the political ideology of Donald Trump," she said.

Some 80 percent of the migrants who have arrived to Tijuana this week hail from Honduras, according to a city official who oversees data from the shelter's registry. Other migrants in the group are from Guatemala, Nicaragua, and El Salvador.

They have come to Tijuana after fleeing violence in their home countries and say they intend to apply for political asylum in the USA, a process that due to more restrictive policies under Trump could take months. Others say they are driven to find higher-paying work to support their families.

Children account for approximately 21 percent of the migrants in Tijuana, according to the city official. Officials expect some 3,000 more migrants in the caravan to arrive to Tijuana from other parts of Mexico in the days to come.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Sorry I had not posted sooner. Got my log-in wrong while in Sun Diego but now have it back home in TX.

Went down for two afternoons / early evening La Zona the 17th and 18th. On the 17th while crossing new PedWest noticed what looked like military construction equipment placing an earthen barrier in the very wide drainage canal. Coming back on the 18th confused at the ped re-entry back into USA Because there was placed on the Mexico side large vertical metal barriers constraining the entry point. Luckily no issues and made it back without being swarmed by the refugees. Now the chicas in the calle swarming another plus also very abundant in HK. Wanted to splooge (I mean splurge) a little with a HK girl on Sun. But just too tired due to the several SGs along with concerns of getting a "bleeder" now. Wanted to go back down yesterday but just not feeling it due most likely to the increased attention on the border and them shutting it down for several hours early Mon. AM as reported on the local news. The ped entry was open during the shutdown but from what I saw Sun. Night know they could shut it down real quick too.

[Captain Solo]

It would be a huge fiasco if the US border closure denies the bros reentry. May be stuck in Tijuana for days, weeks or months:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-threatens-to-close-the-southern-border-due-to-caravan-threat

President Trump on Thursday threatened to stop immigration and trade flows across the southern border if migrants flood into the USA And create an uncontrollable situation.

"If we find that it's uncontrollable. If we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control," Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida on Thanksgiving.

He said a border closure would also hurt Mexico, since he would seal off all trade until the situation normalizes.

"The whole border, I mean the whole border," he said. "And Mexico will not be able to sell their cars into the United States, where they make so many cars at great benefit to them, not a great benefit to us, by the way. ".

"We're going to either have a border, or we're not," he warned.

Trump has sent thousands of USA Troops to the border in anticipation of several caravans that are threatening to cross into the USA From Mexico.

Trump has said the USA Would try to keep people from crossing, but a California judge has blocked that policy for now, after ruling that it goes against the USA Policy of letting people enter to seek asylum.

[StRobert]

OMG Trump is angry and he can close the border with Mexico! BTW I was in Tijuana yesterday. Pedeast border crossing without any problem. There are only more CBP staff and more barbed wire.- Link https://nypost.com/2018/11/22/trump-if-mexico-doesnt-control-the-caravan-im-closing-the-border/.

NEWS.

Trump: If Mexico doesn't control the caravan, I'm closing the border.

By Marisa Schultz November 22,2018.

1:21 pm.

Washington President Trump issued a Thanksgiving Day threat to close the "whole" southern border if Mexico can't control the migrant caravan, which the president claimed is filled with at least "500 serious criminals. ".

"If we find that it's uncontrollable," then "we will close entry into the country for period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border," Trump told reporters at Mar-a-lago Thursday.

Citing unrest from the migrant caravan in Tijuana, Mexico, Trump threatened to halt commerce with Mexico if the southern ally doesn't clamp down on the caravan.

"We will close the border and that means that Mexico's not going to be able to sell their cars into the United States until it's open," Trump said.

The president, who made the caravan a top midterm issue and even sent 5,900 active duty troops near the border, also claimed that he already blocked parts of border "two days ago" because the situation was "out of control. ".

"They called me up. I signed an order," Trump asserted.

Pressed by reporters to see the Department of Homeland Security order, Trump shrugged it off: "You don't need it. It's not that big of a deal. ".

The president said he gave the military the "OK" to use force against migrants seeking asylum in the US if necessary.

"If they have to, they'll use lethal force," the commander-in-chief said.

He also threatened to shut down the government in December if Congress doesn't give him enough money to build his border wall with Mexico. A shutdown "could happen over border security," the president said.

In a wide-ranging question and answer session with reporters, president also asserted the CIA didn't conclude that Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi and cited lower oil prices and an arms deal as reasons not to punish Saudi Arabia.

"Whether he did or whether he didn't, he denies it vehemently," Trump said of the killing of Khashoggi.

The powerful crown prince "hates it more than I do," Trump said.

Asked who should be accountable for the murder, Trump offered this: "Maybe the world should be held accountable because the world is a vicious place. ".

The president also defended his daughter Ivanka's use of personal email while working for the White House as "very innocent" and said it's very different than Hillary Clinton's deletion of thousands of emails on her private server.

The president continued his rant against the independent judiciary on Thanksgiving, calling the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco a "big thorn in our side. ".

Trump also expressed optimism for working out a trade deal with China and finding peace in Afghanistan, saying the US is engaged in "very strong negotiations. ".

As for more shake-ups in his Administration staffing, Trump said he'll probably have a "couple" of changes. He claimed his former staffers have gone on to great success, and gave a special shout out to his former communications aide Hope Hicks, who is now head of corporate communications for New Fox.

"She's a fantastic young woman. I'm very proud of her," Trump said. "She's become a very important person in the outside world. ".

[Jackie888]

I've been over and back 4 times in the last two weeks. Zero wait time at the new border crossing, going in and coming out. And I don't mean a small line. I mean zero wait time. I even asked the CBP guy on my way back what was rush hour so that I can avoid it. He shrugged his shoulders.

Trump needs to get his ass out of Maralargo, stop watching Fox News and actually make a visit to the border for himself.

[Captain Solo]

The migrant, who was calling Mexicans assholes and threatened to shoot them, was apparently kidnapped, beatened bloody, interrogated and suspected murdered by the Tijuana cartel in this video. The kidnappers were trying to find out who the leaders of the caravan are.

This is a very sad situation for migrants to run away from poverty and violence in their home countries, only to fall into far worse abuses and violence at the hands of criminals with little or no protection from any government.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/11/migrant-caravan-video-of-kidnapped.html?m=1

Migrant Caravan: Video of kidnapped migrant being interrogated after issuing threat against Mexicans.

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat- thank you Lacy, Sol Prendido and BB follower.

This young migrant is the person kidnapped after he shot his mouth off in a video calling Mexicans assholes and threatening violence against them "if that's what they want. This was subsequent to the Tijuana confrontation between migrants and citizens at the border of Tijuana and the USA Supposedly it is the Tijuana Cartel that kidnapped him. That is what the text says with the video. They are trying to determine who the leader of the migrant group is.

Three of us played the video and could not decipher the narrative completely that well because of the wind.

He is from Honduras and his wife is Nicaraguan. His captors were asking him why he was running his mouth. And trying to figure out who's who in his group and who was leader.

Or conversely, the coordinator is from Honduras and the wife Nicaragua.

He says a Honduran; a chubby guy is the coordinator.

There is no word if he is alive, but doubtful as he could identify his kidnappers. But that is just my guess.

If any of you can contribute more from the video please send to me.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMvKNbqdYeQ

Tijuana: Where the American dream ends.

DW English.

498,011 views.

Published on Sep 23, 2013.

For many who try to cross into the USA from Mexico, Tijuana becomes the ultimate end of their journey. Many from Latin America become trapped in the Mexican border town.

Unable to get into the USA and unable to return home.

More Journal Reporters: http://www.dw.de/english/journal.

[Bbond]

It would be a huge fiasco if the US border closure denies the bros reentry. May be stuck in Tijuana for days, weeks or months.I ask a CBP agent and he told me Americans would still be allowed back into the USA, if the border was ordered closed. If that happens I guess we'll have to wait and see if that is indeed true.

[FlapJacK]

Be careful guys. Keep aware of your soundings. T.

http://hiptex.com.mx/noticias/6822/hondureno-apunala-a-haitiano-y-lo-deja-gravemente-herido?fbclid=IwAR1ToqV3rxkKDj1T6EwMNUxfDDkJY2AhRwao8Lk_mX9pJXema8_YHQKh06Q


TIJUANA.- A fight that took place in the Colonia Libertad high part, and carried out by two migrants, left one of them seriously injured.

The police authorities informed that the events were recorded at 5:15 p.m., inside a carpentry workshop.

According to the sources consulted, one of those involved, a young Honduran who identified himself as Bryan "V", managed to injure with a sharp weapon a man who was only known to be of Haitian nationality.

After the arrival of the Red Cross paramedics to the scene of the incident, they managed to stabilize the victim, who had serious injuries to the thorax and abdomen, for which they took him to the General Hospital, where the last report indicated that he was in state of seriousness

Regarding Bryan, the authorities indicated that he was presented before the corresponding authorities, but they did not give more details about the mechanics of the attack, as well as the reasons for the events.

[StRobert]

Good source of information about the situation at the border and with migrants link https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/.

[Captain Solo]

To Jackie888.

Before visiting the border and build his wall, Trump should build a high-speed rail line exclusive for mongers from LA down to OC and San Diego stopping on Coahuila right in front of HK.

Between Trump and Kavanaugh they should be able to convince Congress to fund it and move the US government headquarter to LA so top US government officials can take the train at least 5 times a day, between doing their government jobs.


I've been over and back 4 times in the last two weeks. Zero wait time at the new border crossing, going in and coming out. And I don't mean a small line. I mean zero wait time. I even asked the CBP guy on my way back what was rush hour so that I can avoid it. He shrugged his shoulders.

Trump needs to get his ass out of Maralargo, stop watching Fox News and actually make a visit to the border for himself.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.bordertraffic.com/Califo...o-Tijuana.aspx

Watch the pedestrian camera showing 4 SENTRI lanes and the PEDEAST pedestrian turnstile.

10 PM Saturday night, there were no pedestrian but the 4 SENTRI car lanes were not moving.

Ready and regilar lanes were also not moving. Damn. We are at war and locked down.

[Jackie888]

To Jackie888.

Before visiting the border and build his wall, Trump should build a high-speed rail line exclusive for mongers from LA down to OC and San Diego stopping on Coahuila right in front of HK.

Between Trump and Kavanaugh they should be able to convince Congress to fund it and move the US government headquarter to LA so top US government officials can take the train at least 5 times a day, between doing their government jobs.LOL. If approved, I suspect that government officials would mysteriously become committed to becoming lifetime bachelors.

[Captain Solo]

The UN Convention on Refugees was adopted by 150 countries in 1951. The US delayed and addopted the amended UN Protocol on Refugees in 1968.

By both the Convention and the Protocol, refugees have to seek asylum at the first country they arrive at. If they don't, they become illegal migrants subjected to local immigration laws. Legal refugees then stay in the second countries and wait there for adoption by third countries, on basis of family ties, persecution risks, education, skills ect.

This protocol has been followed by all countries for refugees of war in Asia for the last 40 years. Central American migrants, who refuse to seek asylum in Mexico first, made themselves illegal in Mexico and subject to denials of asylum by the US. Immigration lawyers, drooling of loads of high-priced legal cases, will tell these migrants different stories to enrich themselves, but the migrants' chances are very slim, next to nil, after breaking the laws of Mexico and violating the UN protocol.

Immigration courts are responsible to filter out illegiitimate asylum seekers, who may become social burden and criminal risks to society. But I have seen US courts make many exceptions for truly persecuted individuals and families, also for educated, moral, high-potential individuals who can contribute positively to the US and to mankind. Individuals like Dr. Albert Einstein, Andrei Sakharov were always welcomed and protected by the US.

[StRobert]

Migrants are storming borders, today on Sunday noon. Watch live http://www.milenio.com/mileniotv. Television Milenio from Mexico

[TomJackin]

Migrants are storming borders, today on Sunday noon. Watch live http://www.milenio.com/mileniotv. Television Milenio from MexicoEven worst:

https://www.facebook.com/NBCSanDiego/videos/208507889945690/

The border is closed.

[StRobert]

Migrants are storming borders, today on Sunday noon. Watch live http://www.milenio.com/mileniotv. Television Milenio from MexicoMigrants could not penetrate the wall to the USA because the CBP threw tearing gas on them (it was live on Milenio TV).

[CaptJackSparro]

Anyone know if the border is back open? Have a feeling this game of cat and mouse is going to make the border situation suck. Lots of people are going to be pissed on both sides of the border!

People will lose jobs and business if these shutdown continue. This may turn very violent with the migrants on the receiving end of violence for messing with so many peoples livelihood.

[NegotiateHard]

Hello,

Can reliable people confirm exactly how long the border will be closing for each time? Also is there a website on each report and time interval the border is closed? I'm sure many of us want to know this information seeing as being stuck in Tijuana is going to make trips down there extremely inconvenient! Multiple people and I already have to take precautions now before the next trip. Thanks guys. Stay safe.

[Ctytek]

At CBPSanDiego 56m56 minutes ago.

Pedestrian East and West are open at the San Ysidro port of entry for both northbound and southbound crossings.

https://twitter.com/CBPSanDiego/status/1066840235823120384

[Hargow20]

The border is open now. You can check bordertraffic.com for more updates for free. The webcam shows a long line. Really makes me angry that the migrants are screwing things up. If the migrants try and rush the border they should use pepper balls and tear gas on them.


Anyone know if the border is back open? Have a feeling this game of cat and mouse is going to make the border situation suck. Lots of people are going to be pissed on both sides of the border!

People will lose jobs and business if these shutdown continue. This may turn very violent with the migrants on the receiving end of violence for messing with so many peoples livelihood.

[Aviator400]

Thanks for the pointer to bordertraffic.com. Decent application.

[Hargow20]

I am probably heading down on Thursday night. Hopefully the craziness will ease up by then.


The border is open now. You can check bordertraffic.com for more updates for free. The webcam shows a long line. Really makes me angry that the migrants are screwing things up. If the migrants try and rush the border they should use pepper balls and tear gas on them.

[Hargow20]

Are the caravan migrants wandering around Tijuana or stick to specific areas. ? When I was in Tijuana on Friday the week before Thanksgiving I did not see any of the migrants. I wondering because I am a bit concerned we could possibly see a rise in ratero activity. All this craziness may make it easier for the ratero's too rob people. !

[Baxter Slade]

Are the caravan migrants wandering around Tijuana or stick to specific areas. ? When I was in Tijuana on Friday the week before Thanksgiving I did not see any of the migrants. I wondering because I am a bit concerned we could possibly see a rise in ratero activity. All this craziness may make it easier for the ratero's too rob people. !I saw a bunch of them over by the wax museum where they hand out free meals. But did not notice any kind of increase in criminal activity. YET.

[StRobert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNlAGAk9fjA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5o1syPUarA Two videos show what happened on Sunday 11/25 on the US / Mexico border in Tijuana. Good job of journalists from the Mexican television "Milenio" (only in Spanish.).

[Captain Solo]

The migrants are holding noisy, agitated, violent protests on Tijuana streets, hoisting up national flags of Honduras and Guatamala, assaulting policia, rushing the Us borders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e84rklMtKRs

Migrants are taking over Tijuana. This is a defacto invasion of Mexico by Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Venezuela, spearheaded by migrants, organized and probably paid by their governments, to destabilize Mexico and the United States. Border closures will do lots of socio economic damages to people of both see ountry.

Mexico should round them all up, fine them for the damages and punish them for the troubles they caused, pack them 100 each into buses or cattle trucks, and ship them back to where they came from. Only 50 buses or trucks are needed. Mexico can easily do it. It's the best way to prevent further security problems and potential bloodshed along the border.

[StRobert]

To Jackie888.

Before visiting the border and build his wall, Trump should build a high-speed rail line exclusive for mongers from LA down to OC and San Diego stopping on Coahuila right in front of HK.

Between Trump and Kavanaugh they should be able to convince Congress to fund it and move the US government headquarter to LA so top US government officials can take the train at least 5 times a day, between doing their government jobs.To Captain Solo: From Los Angeles you can take the Greyhound bus to San Ysidro (bus stop at the pedeast border just behind Mc Donald's) or from San Ysidro to Los Angeles. For example, Greyhound express goes about 3. 5 hours and it is not expensive. After a night in Hong Kong you can instead of a car in the morning take a bus and kick back and relax or nap. www.greyhound.com.

[FlapJacK]

This situation will be resolved quickly. For 2 reasons, the $ lost by Mexico when border closes for a few hours is probably enough to give each migrants a 100 k to go home. The migrants will be suing USA tax payers for hitting them with tear gas while on Mexican soil. Also suing for not allowing reasonable asylum which should take a few days. Ten thousand migrants is going to cost USA and Mexico hundreds of millions of dollars. Watch, they will all be in USA within two weeks. They can all be here tomorrow if they simply swim 20 feet around the fence. Only Mexican can be sent back. Unless asylum law changes expect massive evacuation of Latin America. People getting the raw deal are Mexicans because they can't get in so easy.Wishful thinking for some but I can assure you it will not happen this way. Also most people from that part of the world don't swim very well if at all.

[DramaFree11]

Wishful thinking for some but I can assure you it will not happen this way. Also most people from that part of the world don't swim very well if at all.Honestly, this could be the best thing that happened. It might force the Mexican government to deal with what is really happening at the border on a daily basis. We can only do so much without their help. This might serve as a wake up call for all parties.

[Orlanr]

Did any bros. Get stuck south of the border when it shut down yesterday?

[StRobert]

Did any bros. Get stuck south of the border when it shut down yesterday?The border was closed on Sunday around 4 hours from noon until around 4 PM.

[StRobert]

The migrants are holding noisy, agitated, violent protests on Tijuana streets, hoisting up national flags of Honduras and Guatamala, assaulting policia, rushing the Us borders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e84rklMtKRs

Migrants are taking over Tijuana. This is a defacto invasion of Mexico by Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Venezuela, spearheaded by migrants, organized and probably paid by their governments, to destabilize Mexico and the United States. Border closures will do lots of socio economic damages to people of both see ountry.

Mexico should round them all up, fine them for the damages and punish them for the troubles they caused, pack them 100 each into buses or cattle trucks, and ship them back to where they came from. Only 50 buses or trucks are needed. Mexico can easily do it. It's the best way to prevent further security problems and potential bloodshed along the border.According to sources from Mexico, about 1000 migrants today return voluntarily to their countries. On Sunday, 98 leaders of this riot at the border were arrested and deported from Mexico. In the caravan, 500-600 serious criminals were identified. According to the President of Honduras, the entire caravan organization, food, drinks is paid by Venezuela. Mexico authorities have committed a serious error to allow more than 5,000 people without a visa to enter Mexico, and the second mistake to send all migrants to Tijuana instead to other border crossings in Texas and Arizona. Hey what could possibly go wrong?! - Now food for 6,000 migrants in Tijuana costs over USD 25,000 a day. The migrant camp is being watched by the Mexican police and migrants can not go to the border to protest any more. Generally sad situation because the decent and poor people from Honduras in caravan are together with the criminals from central America. The waiting time for asylum decisions in the US up to one year.

[Captain Solo]

Mexico's immigration insist the bros pay $30 for their 60-day tourist visa then stamp their passports, but they let 7 to 10,000 Central American migrants just walk into Tijuana for free without any passport or document, and camp out in the more expensive neighborhood of Playas for a long time?

Why are they not insisting the migrants pay $30 for the long-term visitor visas? $30 x 5,000 is $150 K. Double that with a big fine for traveling without proper documents. That would let a couple guys party lavishly in HK for a few months in HK, screwing hundreds hot, young girls.

There are rumor on the street that Mexicans are naturally scared of the rougher, hot-headed and far more violent Hondurans, Guatemalans, El Savadoreans. It would be very sad to see the nice people of Mexico, especially her pretty chicas, gradually conquered and become slaves to invaders from Central America.

[Jackie888]

To understand border issues, and why it will get worse not better people should know the main laws. 1-only Mexicans can be sent back by border patrol, 2-Chinese and many other people fly to Mexico to show up at the border to claim asylum, 3-one does not need to take asylum from Mexico, and one can sneak into USA then claim asylum, 4- most spend two weeks in border camp, then are freed for a year or more till asylum court. They are allowed to work I believe, and most will get married or have a American baby during the year free in USA, 5-about a 3rd don't show up to asylum court, and the ones denied asylum are given time to leave USA. They can simply move down the street. 6-I know many illegals here, who make 30 an hour, with no papers. Friends for twenty years. In central America they will make one dollar an hour. 6- most importantly, America is half sanctuary City, entire neighborhoods, where everyone practically is here with no papers, and cannot be touched unless they commit a crime. Finally, all they have to do is climb first layer wall, and surrender to border patrol. Bingo, asylum is on.No. The refugees surrenders to Homeland who will vett each individual to determine whether they were persecuted for political, sexual orientation, etc by their own government. They will be denied residency if they have a criminal past, drug history or based their claim on economic hardship. Most refugees will be denied entry into the US if Mexico agrees to take them because their flight from persecution ends in Mexico. Refugees are usually accepted upon an extreme crisis such as a war. Seeking a better life for your children, or finding a job in America is not grounds for asylum. Suggest you open a text and research the law for yourself rather than rely on Fox Opinions or YouTube videos that likes to pimp personal opinions as news.

The reason there is a crisis is that this is Trump's last chance to push a wall funding through a Republican Congress before the Democrats take over the House. So Trump and Fox are trying to scare America into funding the $ 60 billion wall that can be defeated by a $6 shovel.

[StRobert]

According to sources from Mexico, about 1000 migrants today return voluntarily to their countries. On Sunday, 98 leaders of this riot at the border were arrested and deported from Mexico. In the caravan, 500-600 serious criminals were identified. According to the President of Honduras, the entire caravan organization, food, drinks is paid by Venezuela. Mexico authorities have committed a serious error to allow more than 5,000 people without a visa to enter Mexico, and the second mistake to send all migrants to Tijuana instead to other border crossings in Texas and Arizona. Hey what could possibly go wrong?! - Now food for 6,000 migrants in Tijuana costs over USD 25,000 a day. The migrant camp is being watched by the Mexican police and migrants can not go to the border to protest any more. Generally sad situation because the decent and poor people from Honduras in caravan are together with the criminals from central America. The waiting time for asylum decisions in the US up to one year.Oops, my mistake. I misunderstood the Spanish language. Not 1000 migrants returns voluntarily but 100. They are transported on a special plane for the Mexican federal police.

[StRobert]

No. The refugees surrenders to Homeland who will vett each individual to determine whether they were persecuted for political, sexual orientation, etc by their own government. They will be denied residency if they have a criminal past, drug history or based their claim on economic hardship. Most refugees will be denied entry into the US if Mexico agrees to take them because their flight from persecution ends in Mexico. Refugees are usually accepted upon an extreme crisis such as a war. Seeking a better life for your children, or finding a job in America is not grounds for asylum. Suggest you open a text and research the law for yourself rather than rely on Fox Opinions or YouTube videos that likes to pimp personal opinions as news.

The reason there is a crisis is that this is Trump's last chance to push a wall funding through a Republican Congress before the Democrats take over the House. So Trump and Fox are trying to scare America into funding the $ 60 billion wall that can be defeated by a $6 shovel.I agree, most migrants from Central America will not get political asylum. Crime, poverty, lack of work are not a reason to obtain political asylum. However, you can get a political asylum easier if you are opposed to the government and if you escaped from North Korea, Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela etc. I guess this group of 80 gays, lesbians, TS from Central America has a good chance of getting asylum also.

[HorseTrader]

Refugees are usually accepted upon an extreme crisis such as a war. Seeking a better life for your children, or finding a job in America is not grounds for asylum.Only time will tell how many of these refugees are granted asylum status. Sometimes asylum is granted for reasons that I cannot understand. About a year ago I dated a Chinese woman who was seeking asylum because the Chinese government took her house from her and gave her insufficient compensation. If she actually gets asylum is another question, but she hired a lawyer who told her asylum would be granted. Perhaps the lawyer was blowing smoke to get billable hours, but she was convinced she would win.

If people like that are actually given asylum, I wouldn't be surprised if a many of these refugees are granted asylum status.

[Aviator400]

Before the refugee issue exploded. Er ah, I mean during the Haitian refugee crisis, several girls asked me to help get them US visas. They said they knew lawyers who said they could get them visas for $700. I don't know of any of them who were successful. (No, I did not give anyone money for a lawyer.) I expressed my doubts. It is probably quite common for Mexican lawyers to make promises they cannot keep.

[Jackie888]

Only time will tell how many of these refugees are granted asylum status. Sometimes asylum is granted for reasons that I cannot understand. About a year ago I dated a Chinese woman who was seeking asylum because the Chinese government took her house from her and gave her insufficient compensation. If she actually gets asylum is another question, but she hired a lawyer who told her asylum would be granted. Perhaps the lawyer was blowing smoke to get billable hours, but she was convinced she would win.

If people like that are actually given asylum, I wouldn't be surprised if a many of these refugees are granted asylum status.She cannot get in on grounds that the government failed to provide sufficient compensation for seizing her home. We do the same thing here and call it eminent domain.

[Captain Solo]

To HorseTrader.

If the government seized her house she should have sued them in China's court. I doubt if any migrants will be granted asylum based on any economic reasons alone.

Immigration lawyers both in US and Mexico have been known mostly to lie and give false hope to asylum seekers to steal their money. I know of many cases in which lawyers screwed their poor clients, each case out of $20-50 K. There are recent reports of whole families of seekers in Oakland suddenly got arrested and deported back to Bolivia without notice to them, after waiting in the US for 5 years, as their lawyers took the money then failed to file required documents or to show up in courts.

All federal filing forms have detailed instructions which are designed for people to fill out properly by themselves without needing aids from lawyers or accountants. Just read them carefully and fill them out, or you risk having your ass fucked and laughed at by unscrupulous lawyers.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/california-teens-killed-tijuana-mexico_us_5c0180afe4b0606a15b51abb

Authorities in the violence-gripped Mexican border city are investigating the brutal slayings.

Two American teens and a Mexican teen were shot to death execution-style and left outside an apartment building in the Mexican border city of Tijuana, authorities said.

The bodies of Christopher Alexis Gomez, 17, and Juan Suarez-Ojeda, 18, both of San Diego, California, as well as Tijuana high school student Angel Said Robles, 17, were found in front of the Lomas Verdes housing complex at 5:50 am On Sunday. Robles is believed to be Suarez-Ojeda's friend.

According to local news outlet Punto Norte, the three teens were tortured before they were shot in the back of the head. No shell casings were found at the scene and not a single witness has come forward.

The LOS Angeles Times reports that Gomez and Suarez-Ojeda crossed the USA -Mexico border last Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, to attend a barbecue in Ensenada, a city in Baja California, Mexico. Relatives confirmed that the teens did make it to the barbecue, and they were supposed to return home the same night. When they didn't, family members contacted authorities and reported them missing.

[Once Sailor]

Probably more to the story, but it will scare off a lot of folks traveling south.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-san-diego-teens-triple-murder-tijuana-execution-shooting-20181128-story.html

[Rio D]

Are any of the migrants getting involved in the local P4 P scene while they wait?

[ScatManDoo]

Are any of the migrants getting involved in the local P4 P scene while they wait?Yes.

In addition to newly printed health cards, all of them ae required on the street to wear identifying headbands declaring whether they are from Honduras, El Savadore or Guatemala, or simply a "Trump Criminal" that tagged along for the ride.

[Hargow20]

I noticed that some people were becoming numb to the violence awhile back when all the ratero muggings were taking place in the Zona awhile back. Hopefully Mexico's new president can help curb the crime and violence in Mexico.

(https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2018/dec/04/stringers-tijuana-desensitized-violence/).

[DailyMotion9K1]

Does anyone have any opinions on whether it is sufficiently safe to travel to Tijuana next week, or sometime in next five weeks? I am trying to decide if I'm going to go to get rid of my V card and it would have to be now or never in spite of the Honduran immigration issue, tear gas, and border closure.

I was hoping to find out what people's thoughts were, whether firsthand or if they had done research. Tips, tricks, ways to avoid the hassle, if one border crossing is better than the others, etc. Thanks in advance, I really appreciate your help!

[OneInTheDugOut]

Does anyone have any opinions on whether it is sufficiently safe to travel to Tijuana next week, or sometime in next five weeks? I am trying to decide if I'm going to go to get rid of my V card and it would have to be now or never in spite of the Honduran immigration issue, tear gas, and border closure.

I was hoping to find out what people's thoughts were, whether firsthand or if they had done research. Tips, tricks, ways to avoid the hassle, if one border crossing is better than the others, etc. Thanks in advance, I really appreciate your help!It's perfectly safe. Follow rules from other lists. Taxi, don't leave the alley. Wait until mid / late January and l will show you around.

[Long Don Silva]

Does anyone have any opinions on whether it is sufficiently safe to travel to Tijuana next week, or sometime in next five weeks? I am trying to decide if I'm going to go to get rid of my V card and it would have to be now or never in spite of the Honduran immigration issue, tear gas, and border closure.

I was hoping to find out what people's thoughts were, whether firsthand or if they had done research. Tips, tricks, ways to avoid the hassle, if one border crossing is better than the others, etc. Thanks in advance, I really appreciate your help!My employer is putting me in Tijuana next week to support an audit by a US federal agency. As of today the audit is still planned as scheduled. I would think that the government has sufficient intel to know what's going on and would prevent one of their federal employees from going there if they anticipated a problem. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. And of course you know this means at least a few spicy reports should be coming up soon.

[Hargow20]

You should have no problems visiting Tijuana. The migrant caravan people will most likely not be a problem. Although I would check the news for any potential attempts to rush the border. By now the migrants realize that the border patrol and Mexican police will use tear gas other means to stop them if necessary. I suggest using Pedwest to cross the border if you walking across. There is almost no wait at all in afternoon or evenings. I would advise going as soon as possible. This because many girls go on vacation to their home towns in the south of Mexico.


Does anyone have any opinions on whether it is sufficiently safe to travel to Tijuana next week, or sometime in next five weeks? I am trying to decide if I'm going to go to get rid of my V card and it would have to be now or never in spite of the Honduran immigration issue, tear gas, and border closure.

I was hoping to find out what people's thoughts were, whether firsthand or if they had done research. Tips, tricks, ways to avoid the hassle, if one border crossing is better than the others, etc. Thanks in advance, I really appreciate your help!

[DailyMotion9K1]

Thanks everyone for the feedback, I feel much better, and I didn't even think about people heading home for the holidays.


It's perfectly safe. Follow rules from other lists. Taxi, don't leave the alley. Wait until mid / late January and l will show you around.Thanks for the offer! I'll definitely keep it in mind if my plans change; in theory I start a new job mid January, assuming the boss doesn't withdraw his offer.

[DailyMotion9K1]

I would advise going as soon as possible. This because many girls go on vacation to their home towns in the south of Mexico.Is there a day when everyone definitely leaves? I'm currently looking at being there for some number of days between the 14th and 20th.

[StRobert]

Does anyone have any opinions on whether it is sufficiently safe to travel to Tijuana next week, or sometime in next five weeks? I am trying to decide if I'm going to go to get rid of my V card and it would have to be now or never in spite of the Honduran immigration issue, tear gas, and border closure.

I was hoping to find out what people's thoughts were, whether firsthand or if they had done research. Tips, tricks, ways to avoid the hassle, if one border crossing is better than the others, etc. Thanks in advance, I really appreciate your help!I was in Zona yesterday. No problems. Only more CBP staff and more barbed wires. I like "pedeast" border crossing (San Ysidro trolley station). I park my car at the trolley station in Chula Vista and take the trolley to the border and taxi to Zona. Very easy. Traffic near the border (on the US side) can be crazy and chaotic and parking $ 25-30/8 hrs.

[ClamSlammer]

Is there a day when everyone definitely leaves? I'm currently looking at being there for some number of days between the 14th and 20th.Yes, most definitely. All the 2000+ putas of different hometowns that work in the Zona hold meetings to decide on a specific date in which they all will leave for Christmas vacation via plane, car, bus, train, boat, etc.

[DailyMotion9K1]

Yes, most definitely. All the 2000+ putas of different hometowns that work in the Zona hold meetings to decide on a specific date in which they all will leave for Christmas vacation via plane, car, bus, train, boat, etc.Ah, yeah, makes sense. I mean they built all Zona Norte all by themselves, with absolutely no intervention by organized crime and govt. So they are completely self-governing and therefore have a democratic society, and are free to leave whenever they want, not when the organization deems it convenient to them.

[DramaFree11]

I was in Zona yesterday. No problems. Only more CBP staff and more barbed wires. I like "pedeast" border crossing (San Ysidro trolley station). I park my car at the trolley station in Chula Vista and take the trolley to the border and taxi to Zona. Very easy. Traffic near the border (on the US side) can be crazy and chaotic and parking $ 25-30/8 hrs.I was in Tijuana Saturday and Sunday, the city was packed Saturday night, holiday parties. No issues, but you still need to be careful Crime is on the rise.

[NegotiateHard]

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[Ctytek]

So you are going to switch from posting a bunch of weird newbie questions to being a know-it-all about how Tijuana girl scene operates? But since you asked. No, vast majority of chicks operate completely independently and when they choose to work isn't controlled by anyone.


Ah, yeah, makes sense. I mean they built all Zona Norte all by themselves, with absolutely no intervention by organized crime and govt. So they are completely self-governing and therefore have a democratic society, and are free to leave whenever they want, not when the organization deems it convenient to them.

[DailyMotion9K1]

No, vast majority of chicks operate completely independently and when they choose to work isn't controlled by anyone.That's all I needed to know. Hey, if there's a comprehensive sidebar on holiday schedules I'll hold that L, but I'm not going to let "elites" walk all over me for asking genuine questions in a forum that purpose to exist for sharing information, not measuring dick size.

[Phordphan]

So you are going to switch from posting a bunch of weird newbie questions to being a know-it-all about how Tijuana girl scene operates? But since you asked. No, vast majority of chicks operate completely independently and when they choose to work isn't controlled by anyone.He was being sarcastic in response to another unnecessarily sarcastic post.

[Bradley562]

I was in Zona yesterday. No problems. Only more CBP staff and more barbed wires. I like "pedeast" border crossing (San Ysidro trolley station). I park my car at the trolley station in Chula Vista and take the trolley to the border and taxi to Zona. Very easy. Traffic near the border (on the US side) can be crazy and chaotic and parking $ 25-30/8 hrs.What off ramp on the interstate 5 do you use to get to this trolley station? Is it well lit?

[MongerHunger]

What off ramp on the interstate 5 do you use to get to this trolley station? Is it well lit?The one that says "Last USA Exit".

[Bradley562]

The one that says "Last USA Exit".No. I meant what offramp on the 5 do you get off to hit the trolley Station in Chula Vista.

[ClamSlammer]

No. I meant what offramp on the 5 do you get off to hit the trolley Station in Chula Vista.Southbound on I-5, get off on Palomar and go east (left.) Just off the highway on your right will be Palomar station. It is one of the larger trolley stations because it is also a hub for the city buses. You can hop on the Blue Line trolley for San Ysidro there.

[StRobert]

What off ramp on the interstate 5 do you use to get to this trolley station? Is it well lit?Exit southbound I-5 at exit for example: E Street, H Street, Palomar St, Palm Ave, Iris Ave, Beyer Blvd. Each trolley station has a parking lot. E Street, Palomar St. Parking lots are large and I know Palomar St. Parking has cameras. The last trolley from San Ysidro is 1258 AM and the next after 430 AM. Ticket price for one-way trolley $ 2. 50 (over 60 yo. $ 1. 25) BTW If you park on a trolley parking lot you must use a trolley and parking is free for 24 hours. This is a good deal compared to the parking border on the weekend $ 25- $ 30 / every 8 hrs. (If you exit I-5 "last exit USA" it will be "Las Americas Premium Outlets" and border traffic chaos, there is no trolley station).

[StRobert]

The closer you park to the border, the bigger the chance that someone jumps in it and drives into Mexico. Border patrol has a license plate reader that buzzes all day long from reportedly stolen cars but they have no authority to stop cars. Stolen cars is generally unheard of in other parts of the country but in San Diego the numbers would shock you. I'm surprised car insurance isn't double the east coast. Having parked in trolly lots the past two years I've seen 20 year old Nissan Sentra using the club. You'd never see that in most of the country. My preferred method is disconnecting the car battery and hoping they don't have time to look under the hood.A club for a steering wheel is a good investment. (about $ 40). I had a break in my car three times (not here but in the San Francisco Bay Area) but they can not steal the car because they do not have the tool and time to cut the club.

[Jackie888]

A club for a steering wheel is a good investment. (about $ 40). I had a break in my car three times (not here but in the San Francisco Bay Area) but they can not steal the car because they do not have the tool and time to cut the club.A club is like a chihuahua watch dog. They can overcome it, but they generally move on to easier targets.

[RickyVee]

So Sunday evening walking out of the Zona around 830 Pm. Standing on the corner of Primera and the Main Street that goes to the border with the HSBC bank on the corner. Anyhow waiting for the light to change and mind you plenty of people out this guy tries to snatch my necklace but he was unsuccessful. I turn and look at him guess he didn't realize I was a grown man with the rage of furry in my eyes for the insult. He tries to run I give chase I catch up to him body slammed him to the ground, out of nowhere his partner in crime comes to his rescue with a push broom he tries to take a swipe at me I grab it from him kicked him in the gut he is down on the floor I turn to the other Ratero who tried to snatch my chain I proceed to beat him with the broom two hits to the dome body shots, busted his head open blood everywhere by this time I am urging him to stand up so I can finish him off proper. My misfortune a cop on foot comes running over and breaks up fight. I explain what happened a patrol unit comes on scene I tell them what happened. He cuffs both the rateros and then says since I whooped there asses somehow I am in the wrong. I offer 200 pesos for the beat down. Fucker won't budge says I have to appear in front of judge. So at this point I know these fucks want way more money, fuck that that's my final offer. His partner starts to put the rateros in the patrol car the other cop tells me to wait while he helps his partner. Fuck that as soon as he turns his back I run 3 blocks west then north to hideout in Hk to let it die down. Get a free lap dance from some random chick near the back door within 5 minutes of setting foot in the place. I guess I must have cut my hand during the scuffle I also dislocated my middle finger popped back into place. I didn't even notice because of the adrenaline rush she said you are bleeding asked what happened I told her I just beat up two guys because they tried to rob me and I hiding from the cops. That must have got her pussy wet because she started French kissing me. I was not really in the mood because I just finished up a session in Adelitas. So all in all ratero went to jail with a busted head. I'm sure these fucks will think twice before pulling a stunt like that. I felt satisfaction that I performed a public service for the Citizens of Tijuana. The funny thing is the people across the street at the pharmacy were laughing after it went down. I'm sure these fucks robbed a few people in the area and are known scum bags. So yes sometimes Christmas comes early. Be careful out there gents.

[Ryusuzuki]

So Sunday evening walking out of the Zona around 830 Pm. Standing on the corner of Primera and the Main Street that goes to the border with the HSBC bank on the corner. Anyhow waiting for the light to change and mind you plenty of people out this guy tries to snatch my necklace but he was unsuccessful. I turn and look at him guess he didn't realize I was a grown man with the rage of furry in my eyes for the insult. He tries to run I give chase I catch up to him body slammed him to the ground, out of nowhere his partner in crime comes to his rescue with a push broom he tries to take a swipe at me I grab it from him kicked him in the gut he is down on the floor I turn to the other Ratero who tried to snatch my chain I proceed to beat him with the broom two hits to the dome body shots, busted his head open blood everywhere by this time I am urging him to stand up so I can finish him off proper. My misfortune a cop on foot comes running over and breaks up fight. I explain what happened a patrol unit comes on scene I tell them what happened. He cuffs both the rateros and then says since I whooped there asses somehow I am in the wrong. I offer 200 pesos for the beat down. Fucker won't budge says I have to appear in front of judge. So at this point I know these fucks want way more money, fuck that that's my final offer. His partner starts to put the rateros in the patrol car the other cop tells me to wait while he helps his partner.Wow! My kind of ventures in Tijuana!

[Muncher8888]

A club for a steering wheel is a good investment. (about $ 40). I had a break in my car three times (not here but in the San Francisco Bay Area) but they can not steal the car because they do not have the tool and time to cut the club.If you have a great mechanic, and by that I mean one with electrical expertise consider having a kill switch put in.

It's a button or switch, hidden that one has to press before starting car. I myself had a two combo, so they have to press two buttons in order to start the car.

Will a real pro car thief overcome this? Well ya. But it will take them time.

But for the vast majority of attempted steals they are going to move on.

[BearBare]

The cops very likely let them go when you ran off. The cops don't care and in some cases if you understand Spanish will hear them giving the ratero shit about letting a gringo catch them.

Glad you got the ass whooping in. I've had 2 experiences: once on Ped bridge over Tijuana river. I punched the first deportee before he knew it was coming (he asked for my phone) but his Mexican friend was too hard to hit despite holding him with my left hand as I punched with my right. Cop station was right across the street but they wouldn't even come out to look. The second time I slipped on concrete and my glasses went flying. I had broken my rule of never wearing glasses to Tijuana and I had to decide: do I chase and lose my only pair of subscription glasses or let the shit head get away? Plus, he ran down an alley I wasn't really wanting to go (next to HDS where druggies hang out on the sidewalk, heading north).


So Sunday evening walking out of the Zona around 830 Pm. Standing on the corner of Primera and the Main Street that goes to the border with the HSBC bank on the corner. Anyhow waiting for the light to change and mind you plenty of people out this guy tries to snatch my necklace but he was unsuccessful. I turn and look at him guess he didn't realize I was a grown man with the rage of furry in my eyes for the insult. He tries to run I give chase I catch up to him body slammed him to the ground, out of nowhere his partner in crime comes to his rescue with a push broom he tries to take a swipe at me I grab it from him kicked him in the gut he is down on the floor I turn to the other Ratero who tried to snatch my chain I proceed to beat him with the broom two hits to the dome body shots, busted his head open blood everywhere by this time I am urging him to stand up so I can finish him off proper. My misfortune a cop on foot comes running over and breaks up fight. I explain what happened a patrol unit comes on scene I tell them what happened. He cuffs both the rateros and then says since I whooped there asses somehow I am in the wrong..

[Duncan216]

So Sunday evening walking out of the Zona around 830 Pm. Standing on the corner of Primera and the Main Street that goes to the border with the HSBC bank on the corner. Anyhow waiting for the light to change and mind you plenty of people out this guy tries to snatch my necklace but he was unsuccessful. I turn and look at him guess he didn't realize I was a grown man with the rage of furry in my eyes for the insult. He tries to run I give chase I catch up to him body slammed him to the ground, out of nowhere his partner in crime comes to his rescue with a push broom he tries to take a swipe at me I grab it from him kicked him in the gut he is down on the floor I turn to the other Ratero who tried to snatch my chain I proceed to beat him with the broom two hits to the dome body shots, busted his head open blood everywhere by this time I am urging him to stand up so I can finish him off proper. My misfortune a cop on foot comes running over and breaks up fight. I explain what happened a patrol unit comes on scene I tell them what happened. He cuffs both the rateros and then says since I whooped there asses somehow I am in the wrong. I offer 200 pesos for the beat down. Fucker won't budge says I have to appear in front of judge. So at this point I know these fucks want way more money, fuck that that's my final offer. His partner starts to put the rateros in the patrol car the other cop tells me to wait while he helps his partner. Fuck that as soon as he turns his back I run 3 blocks west then north to hideout in Hk to let it die down..Glad you got away from the cops. I never use to hear about or experience dangers like these before 2017 and I use to walk around zona norte at 1 - 3 am. I wonder if it has to do with the migrant caravan.

Thank you for helping to take out these rateros. I bet you just did something the Tijuana locals wanted to do for months too.

[BearBare]

Glad you got away from the cops. I never use to hear about or experience dangers like these before 2017 and I use to walk around zona norte at 1 - 3 am. I wonder if it has to do with the migrant caravan.

Thank you for helping to take out these rateros. I bet you just did something the Tijuana locals wanted to do for months too.I've had three total mugging attempts in Tijuana and all 3 pre—dated the migrants caravans. Two were Mexican nationals on Coahulia between Revo and Ninoes Heros. The third was just east of the waterfountain at the west side of the Tijuana River pedestrian bridge (main walkway that leads to Arch if you walk west). Two were normal hours (between. 9 pm and 11 pm) and the Ped Bridge was me being stupid at about 2 am and letting my situational awareness drop (I had grown accustomed to seeing vagrants at the bottom of the stairs). That attempt was a deportee (spoke perfect English with no accent) and a Mexican friend (an assumption based on appearance, no English, and the fact he was about 25 yrs old, yet only 5' 4" around 140. At 220 5 foot 10 inches, I had my way with him with ease).

I would agree that fighting back is prob a bad idea but, I have prior military related experience (deployed 3 years and trained for hand to hand) and I honestly don't give a fuck. You're going to have to put in work to steal from me.

[RickyVee]

Yes I too have a similar background TDY'the many dangerous spots. Now that I am civie I try to keep low pro but sometimes that's not possible. It's like those old reflexes kick in and it's autopilot mode. Besides, these dirt bags were begging to be made an example of. After the cops saw how bloodied these guys were they started asking me what I did for work, I told him I was a used car sales desk jockey, somehow how I don't think he believed me. I did not want to go to the station because I was afraid they would start interrogating me. There is a lot of shuffling going on in the plaza with the narcotics trade and the last thing I wanted to be accused of his working for the powers that be competitors. The cops said there were witnesses that saw the whole thing. My gut instinct told me if I was taken things might have gone south real fast for me. Lesson learned next time I will just walk away but sometimes retreat is not an option. It's just real unfortunate that the vast majority of us patronize this city and this is how we we are repaid for our tourism dollars. Not only do we pump a lot of chicas but a lot of American dollars to this area. To be fair there was at least a cop around but the fact that they are not more vigilant about rounding these guys up off the street does not benefit anybody in the long run. Well that's Mexico boys. Heads on swivel is the motto for the Zona.

[Phordphan]

I resisted when mugged by six well dressed 20 year olds but I didn't actually get the opportunity to fight back as it ended fast.You left out the part about the "gang" consisting of men and women, and that they were all really short.

[Hargow20]

The area between on Cohuilla st between Constitution and Revolution can be risky at night. About 3 years ago 2 ratero's jumped & robbed me. When I am in the Zona at night I almost never leave the Zona area. The pedestrian bridge area is a risky these days since it is desolated at night and also because the city has not fixed the lights on the ramps. These days I take the Uber if I am heading back after 9 pm. In the end it is best to remember that Mexico is a crazy place so it is important to try and reduce your risks as much as possible and always keep your guard up in TJ.


I've had three total mugging attempts in Tijuana and all 3 predated the migrants caravans. Two were Mexican nationals on Coahulia between Revo and Ninoes Heros. The third was just east of the waterfountain at the west side of the Tijuana River pedestrian bridge (main walkway that leads to Arch if you walk west). Two were normal hours (between. 9 pm and 11 pm) and the Ped Bridge was me being stupid at about 2 am and letting my situational awareness drop (I had grown accustomed to seeing vagrants at the bottom of the stairs). That attempt was a deportee (spoke perfect English with no accent) and a Mexican friend (an assumption based on appearance, no English, and the fact he was about 25 yrs old, yet only 5' 4" around 140. At 220 5 foot 10 inches, I had my way with him with ease).

I would agree that fighting back is prob a bad idea but, I have prior military related experience (deployed 3 years and trained for hand to hand) and I honestly don't give a fuck. You're going to have to put in work to steal from me.

[Dcrist0527]

I don't think it has anything to do with the caravan. Those people are not hanging around long, they caught 500 in one day last week on the Mexico Texas border in one spot, entire bus loads drove them from Guatemala. They all got processed immediately. No reason any caravan person should be staying in Tijuana more than one day. Simply climb the wall and wait for border patrol to process you for a week then they drive you to Greyhound station. Three caravan teenagers kidnapped robbed yesterday in Tijuana, two are deceased, USA tax payers will pay millions in that lawsuit for making them wait in the to be processed. Better to just let everyone in who's not previously banned, immediately than pay all these lawsuits. We are looking at whole scale multi country evacuations, I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish.These posts get more comical by the day. I do wish there was an auto-ignore feature.

US taxpayers are now on the hook for murders occurring in Tijuana? I'm sure there's an attorney that will try.

Back on the east coast now? LOL.

[MongerHunger]

These posts get more comical by the day. I do wish there was an auto-ignore feature.

US taxpayers are now on the hook for murders occurring in Tijuana? I'm sure there's an attorney that will try.

Back on the east coast now? LOL.As I think about it I think that he is under aged with his immature post, fantasized stories, made up reports, lies and such. Just wanting attention like a child. I would bet pesos that he is just that.

[Hargow20]

I have my doubts as well. There was story the other day that many of migrants have gotten jobs and or are applying for work was well. I am sure there is criminal element within them as well.


I don't think it has anything to do with the caravan. Those people are not hanging around long, they caught 500 in one day last week on the Mexico Texas border in one spot, entire bus loads drove them from Guatemala. They all got processed immediately. No reason any caravan person should be staying in Tijuana more than one day. Simply climb the wall and wait for border patrol to process you for a week then they drive you to Greyhound station. Three caravan teenagers kidnapped robbed yesterday in Tijuana, two are deceased, USA tax payers will pay millions in that lawsuit for making them wait in the to be processed. Better to just let everyone in who's not previously banned, immediately than pay all these lawsuits. We are looking at whole scale multi country evacuations, I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish.

[Captain Solo]

The rusty 20-foot tall steel wall along the border at Las Playas must be buried very deep with massive concrete foundation for them to stand and not collapse.

But there were videos showing migrant families, including children, crawl through a shallow hole under the wall and enter the US.

Looks like the wall's height won't stop illegal entries. They just find weak spots and dig holes through it.

[StRobert]

I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish."Although English is the most commonly spoken language, there is actually no official language in the United States at the federal level. The US is one of the linguistically diverse countries in the world. Historically, approximately 500 languages have been spoken in the country with English as the widely used language. May 9, 2018.

What is the Official Language of the United States? - WorldAtlas.com" GNRPorsche - If you visit San Francisco, you will probably see a lot of signs in shops in Chinese, Los Angeles in Korean, Chicago in Polish, Brooklyn in Russian and Hebrew etc. We live in the USA not in England and there is a big difference in the ethnic composition of the population. I don't understand why you are outraged. Shop owners and business owners need these signs in other languages for business purposes.

[NegotiateHard]

"Although English is the most commonly spoken language, there is actually no official language in the United States at the federal level. The US is one of the linguistically diverse countries in the world. Historically, approximately 500 languages have been spoken in the country with English as the widely used language. May 9, 2018.

What is the Official Language of the United States? - WorldAtlas.com" GNRPorsche - If you visit San Francisco, you will probably see a lot of signs in shops in Chinese, Los Angeles in Korean, Chicago in Polish, Brooklyn in Russian and Hebrew etc. We live in the USA not in England and there is a big difference in the ethnic composition of the population. I don't understand why you are outraged. Shop owners and business owners need these signs in other languages for business purposes.Is the USA that much more diverse than England? I really imagined England being super diverse. Well maybe not as much as the USA.

[BearBare]

Problem is your statements are directly contradicted by quantified statistics the CBP publishes. The number of crossings has plunged and the number of detentions for illegal crossing is at 46 year low.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/568546381/arrests-for-illegal-border-crossings-hit-46-year-low


I understand in cities you get foreign languages. My point was in referance to anyone who thinks those caravans we're stopped, will be stopped, slowed down etc. Including the folks that want a wall. The entire earth population is welcome to move to USA today, and work for several years till denied asylum. And border patrol is seeing huge increases, and legally they are allowed here, and it has changed entire towns on the east coast that we're once English speaking, that have gone from 10% Spanish people to 80 to 90%. It's not one town, or two, it's most of them in the north east. They love it here, they don't like the south or west coast probably due to border patrol risks if you are within hundred miles of the border you can get harassed by border. That's why Trump won a lot of areas out here I was shocked anyone voted for him, and everyone here said it's because of illegals. It was funny because I could care less about this place turning to Latin America since I live in five states but the point was the people are coming, they are allowed here, and only misguided uninformed people will stay in the caravan for more than two days as border patrol is picking up thousand a day now climbing over the wall.

[MongerHunger]

Problem is your statements are directly contradicted by quantified statistics the CBP publishes. The number of crossings has plunged and the number of detentions for illegal crossing is at 46 year low.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/568546381/arrests-for-illegal-border-crossings-hit-46-year-lowThe thing is that there is a problem with all his statements. Mostly made-up, fantasized, delusional stories and reports while craving attention from grown men in this forum.

[StRobert]

"Border Patrol fires tear gas again after 100 caravan migrants try to cross over from Tijuana to San Diego on New Year's Eve" link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6544833/Border-Patrol-fires-tear-gas-caravan-migrants-try-enter-New-Years-Eve.html.

[StRobert]

"The city's year closed with more than 2,500 killings" "While the numbers are higher than ever, law enforcement authorities say most of the homicides are targeted and linked to the lucrative neighborhood drug trade, as dealers fight over street corners. Primarily at stake is the city's methamphetamine market, and to a lesser degree heroin sales, they say.

"From what we're seeing, it's definitely the street sales in Tijuana that they're struggling over," said Bo Morris, Special Agent with the USA Drug Enforcement Administration" link to the article here https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/sd-me-homicides-tijuana-record-20181226-story.html.

[LookingToSwing4]

I have read most of the recent reports regarding the caravan at the border, but have a different interest than being for or against immigration. I have not been to Tijuana in over 20 years, so obviously things have changed. What I am interested in is if the current immigration situation along the border makes it unwise for me to go there for a few days? I understand one needs to be smart about getting to / from the port of entry as well as walking around in the Zona Rosa. I plan to stay in the hotel above HK and make use of their transportation service. What concerns, if any, does the caravan pose in the Zona Rosa or in the immediate vicinity of the port of entry? I am in need of some stress relief and now live close enough to go just for a few days. I just want to better understand the risks of traveling there at this time given all the immigration problems Tijuana is currently experiencing. Thanks in advance for the advice.

[BearBare]

I go down often, about every 3-7 days I'm guessing. Both PedEast and West. The real differences post 2018 caravan is Mexico takes it more seriously about allowing people back on the bridge to the PedWest CBP point. Sometimes they stop at the carousels and sometimes at the bottom of the ramps. I suspect you mean threat wise. There's no difference. I was going down even when they were trying to swarm the border. There's a much higher police presence but if you're an American with your passport ID card or Passport, your threats and procedures are unchanged. Albeit illegal crossings are a problem, its not at all a problem for cross-border tourists.


I have read most of the recent reports regarding the caravan at the border, but have a different interest than being for or against immigration. I have not been to Tijuana in over 20 years, so obviously things have changed. What I am interested in is if the current immigration situation along the border makes it unwise for me to go there for a few days? I understand one needs to be smart about getting to / from the port of entry as well as walking around in the Zona Rosa. I plan to stay in the hotel above HK and make use of their transportation service. What concerns, if any, does the caravan pose in the Zona Rosa or in the immediate vicinity of the port of entry? I am in need of some stress relief and now live close enough to go just for a few days. I just want to better understand the risks of traveling there at this time given all the immigration problems Tijuana is currently experiencing. Thanks in advance for the advice.

[Dcrist0527]

I go down often, about every 3-7 days I'm guessing. Both PedEast and West. The real differences post 2018 caravan is Mexico takes it more seriously about allowing people back on the bridge to the PedWest CBP point. Sometimes they stop at the carousels and sometimes at the bottom of the ramps. I suspect you mean threat wise. There's no difference. I was going down even when they were trying to swarm the border. There's a much higher police presence but if you're an American with your passport ID card or Passport, your threats and procedures are unchanged. Albeit illegal crossings are a problem, its not at all a problem for cross-border tourists.Wednesday was my first day here on this trip. I was here a month ago during the peak of the caravan. I felt that Tijuana was back to normal now. I thought the police presence was much less than a month ago. Though there was a heavy federal presence in the zona last night. They were feeling up a few gringos driving and tearing their SUVs apart, looking for something.

[BearBare]

Honestly, if a Cabinet member visits the border and 1000% if the President of the US (POTUS) visits the wall is really the largest threat to your crossing being swift and uneventful. I've been on the tarmac in the US and even Afghanistan, and when a cabinet member (eg Director of any three letter agency) or POTUS enters the area, time comes to a halt and life sucks for a Few hours (yes, hours).

So keep an eye on Trumps schedule in relation to your border cross day. This is not meant to be political, as I've waited on Bush, Obama and Bush Sr. And Clinton to pass.

[Jackie888]

I have read most of the recent reports regarding the caravan at the border, but have a different interest than being for or against immigration. I have not been to Tijuana in over 20 years, so obviously things have changed. What I am interested in is if the current immigration situation along the border makes it unwise for me to go there for a few days? I understand one needs to be smart about getting to / from the port of entry as well as walking around in the Zona Rosa. I plan to stay in the hotel above HK and make use of their transportation service. What concerns, if any, does the caravan pose in the Zona Rosa or in the immediate vicinity of the port of entry? I am in need of some stress relief and now live close enough to go just for a few days. I just want to better understand the risks of traveling there at this time given all the immigration problems Tijuana is currently experiencing. Thanks in advance for the advice.Threats or delays of border crossing from the caravan is zero.

Threats from a gang turf war is high as gangs are competing.

Threats from muggings is low-medium.

Threats from ugly chicas price-gouging is high as the better chicas are on vacation.

Recommend you remain on alert when in the Zona Norte and not in one of the main clubs.

[DramaFree11]

Threats or delays of border crossing from the caravan is zero.

Threats from a gang turf war is high as gangs are competing.

Threats from muggings is low-medium.

Threats from ugly chicas price-gouging is high as the better chicas are on vacation.

Recommend you remain on alert when in the Zona Norte and not in one of the main clubs.100% correct.

[BearBare]

If anything, the caravan just created visual items of interest. Theres now a field deployable barracade by PedEast and razor wire across the Tijuana river canal near the US mall (look west from PedWest and you will see it).

Also if you have military experience with Air Ops, you could see the different types of flying patterns (Hi / low overwatch, USCG vs CBP patrol, etc). Thats all gone though. The increased police seems to fluctuate by news reports. I've noticed when news spikes (rumors of a swarm trying to overwhelm CBP) then the Federales are out more.

But again, a gringo tourist is only affected by now you may have a chokepoint check by MX immigration at the bridge before walking over to PedWest. Just show you have a valid passport and no problems. Very quick but only seems to be done during higher times of crossings.

[Hargow20]

I would agree that the risk of muggings are a bit lower now. But one should never let your guard down in the Zona. Always look to see who is walking behind you in the Zona. The street crime fluctuates a lot in Tijuana & the Zona so one must always be wary.


Threats or delays of border crossing from the caravan is zero.

Threats from a gang turf war is high as gangs are competing.

Threats from muggings is low-medium.

Threats from ugly chicas price-gouging is high as the better chicas are on vacation.

Recommend you remain on alert when in the Zona Norte and not in one of the main clubs.

[LookingToSwing4]

I would prefer going elsewhere, like MDE, but cannot get away for more than 3 days. So I thought it might be time for me to sample Tijuana since it is easy for me to pull-off an economical 3-day trip to take the edge off. Was pretty hard to tell what's going on given all the drama-filled news coverage. Situational awareness is always needed where we choose to play, but expect an extra measure of awareness is warranted given the situation. I do not plan to leave the Zona, nor wander around after dark beyond from one club to another. But I also plan to take advantage of the HK Border transportation services to further decrease my exposure to bad circumstances.