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JimmyDR
02-22-04, 21:59
After doing more than 100 trips, I would say that a good place to start is either Costa Rica or Dominican Republic. The shock of the third world may be too much for some so if you need to get back, you are not very far at all. These areas are full of Americans and Europeans who can assist you if you need help, suchas finding a taxi, an Embassy or a doctor.

Eros74
02-29-04, 00:10
Ciao Jimmy,

I am beginner in mongering, so I have some questions, (looking to your reports number you have surely big experince). I arrived in a bedroom with her, or in private flat, she wants money before sex, I want to give her money after sex. What you can suggesst me in this situation? Which lies (smiling) can I tell her? It could be enough to show her that I am ready to go to another place or girl to make her change her mind and accept money after sex? Cause I think,that most of times, I can have better sex if she receive money after sex, right? Question is "is it possible with you to have anal and can I kiss you during sex, I mean french kiss not oral, are normal question or not? So I have not to be shy for ask her this, right?

Thank you very much in advance!

Best regards,

Luca

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JimmyDR
02-29-04, 16:16
Ciao Jimmy,

I am beginner in mongering, so I have some questions, (looking to your reports number you have surely big experince). I arrived in a bedroom with her, or in private flat, she wants money before sex, I want to give her money after sex. What you can suggesst me in this situation? It depends what the custom is. Some clubs in DR you pay first while streetwalkers there you pay afterwards Which lies (smiling) can I tell her? It could be enough to show her that I am ready to go to another place or girl to make her change her mind and accept money after sex? Cause I think,that most of times, I can have better sex if she receive money after sex, right? Question is "is it possible with you to have anal and can I kiss you during sex, I mean french kiss not oral, are normal question or not? So I have not to be shy for ask her this, right? You need to tell them upfront what yoy want or they may say no afterwards. they are not all into this.


Thank you very much in advance!

Best regards,

Luca

Jaimito Cartero
02-29-04, 16:53
As ******* states, you may want to negotiate all that you want before price is even discussed. For instance, I like DFK, DATY and BBBJ. Only the latter is usually a dealbreaker, but I do like the whole package.

I don't recommend paying up front if possible. However, many incall places there is no other choice.

I'd read the forums for the area you are going to, and then see what the norm is there. Some girls are afraid of getting ripped off of their fee, and of course you are fearful of getting subpar service. If you based in the US, money up front is fairly common where you don't know the lady.

Say you want to go to the Domincan Republic for 7 days of sun and fun. I'd read back at least 6 months and view some good field reports. Then if you have specific questions you'll have enough info to ask an intelligent question.

For close locations (if you're North American based), DR or CR would be the easiest choice. If you're willing to fly a bit further, Brazil, Argentina and Thailand are the other good choices.

Nefarious
03-21-04, 19:55
I will be traveling to Sosua, DR at the end of this month (March 2004). I would like some good advice on how to get two hot chicas in bed at once. How much will this cost me? Where would be a good palce to find this? Does anyone have expereicnes with this in Sosua?

Also, if I find that my hotel which is in a great location, but expensive and probably highly over-rated, is not chica friendly, what are my options for getting a cheap place for overnight? In fact, I might actually prefer not bringing them back to my room with my valuables. Any suggestions on either a cheap place to hae sex for the night if I want LT or a good, cheap place for ST sex there? Full-service massage, etc?

Does anyone know if real Viagra and Cialis available in Sosua? Just in case I want to try them? Reply or PM me.

Thanks,

Nefarious

JimmyDR
03-25-04, 22:42
I will be traveling to Sosua, DR at the end of this month (March 2004). I would like some good advice on how to get two hot chicas in bed at once. How much will this cost me? It costs doublr. Where would be a good palce to find this? Any of the clubs. Does anyone have expereicnes with this in Sosua? I had 2 a few times.

Also, if I find that my hotel which is in a great location, but expensive and probably highly over-rated, is not chica friendly, what are my options for getting a cheap place for overnight? In fact, I might actually prefer not bringing them back to my room with my valuables. I posted all of them. Any suggestions on either a cheap place to hae sex for the night if I want LT or a good, cheap place for ST sex there? Full-service massage, etc?

Does anyone know if real Viagra and Cialis available in Sosua? Just in case I want to try them? Reply or PM me.

Thanks,

Nefarious

Zing23
10-03-05, 20:34
Having a free day in St Maarten recently, I decided to have my first p4p experience at the Seaman's Club and Casa Blanca brothels. I knew what to expect from the WSG -- thanks to everyone who posts.

I sampled 3 young ladies, Laura from Medalin, Veronica from Cali and Nancy (??) from Santa Domingo. All were cute, petite and curvy and aiming to please. They are on 3 month contracts in St Marteen, then return home. Probably show up in Aruba and Curacao also. I used my poco Espagnol on them and generally managed to communicate pretty well. As it was my first time, I was a bit nervous, but found the brothels friendly and non-threatening (Having read the WSG, I wasn't surprised when after a few lines of conversation they started stroking my crotch).

It was fun, but it could have been better.

All three were disinclined to kiss on the mouth, let alone DFK. Ditto with BBBJ and DATY. As a result, I did not get as turned on as with non p4p encounters.

Are these just wise sex workers avoiding disease? None offered extra services for extra money.

Next time I go, should I try to find girls who kiss/dfk? - if so, what are some useful Spanish phrases (besos = kiss?). Or I could just focus on safer ways of getting turned on!?

Second question - everything was covered. In fact, they put the condom on with the mouth as soon as we were in their rooms and washed. This was my first experience with CBJ and only Veronica managed to make it feel good. The condoms reduced the pleasure of the BJ and FS for me - as a result, I did not orgasm with any of them (I am over 50, so need careful stimulation).

Are there any any condom brands that I can bring with me that give the man more stimlation (ultra thin)? The last girl was trying to tell me in Spanish that she could do something to help me come for a couple of dollars. My Spanish wasn't good enough to understand her, but in retrospect I think she was prepared to go out of the room and buy me a better condom from the house.

What do you think? Any tips for an (almost) complete novice will be appreciated.

Zing23
11-09-05, 23:27
Having a free day in St Maarten recently, I decided to have my first p4p experience at the Seaman's Club and Casa Blanca brothels. I knew what to expect from the WSG -- thanks to everyone who posts.

I sampled 3 young ladies, Laura from Medalin, Veronica from Cali and Nancy (??) from Santa Domingo. All were cute, petite and curvy and aiming to please. They are on 3 month contracts in St Marteen, then return home. Probably show up in Aruba and Curacao also. I used my poco Espagnol on them and generally managed to communicate pretty well. As it was my first time, I was a bit nervous, but found the brothels friendly and non-threatening (Having read the WSG, I wasn't surprised when after a few lines of conversation they started stroking my crotch).

It was fun, but it could have been better.Okay, no one replied to my newbie questions and a month has passed. I have been back at least once a week to St Maarten and tried a lot more places and girls. I have some answers to my questions.
All three were disinclined to kiss on the mouth, let alone DFK. Ditto with BBBJ and DATY. As a result, I did not get as turned on as with non p4p encounters.

Are these just wise sex workers avoiding disease? None offered extra services for extra money.

Next time I go, should I try to find girls who kiss/dfk? - if so, what are some useful Spanish phrases (besos = kiss?). Or I could just focus on safer ways of getting turned on!?Once my Spanish got a little better and I got less nervous, the kissing improved a lot. Lips, neck, breasts, pussy, toes, etc.

Veronica above would not kiss on the lips at all, although she was otherwise a pretty good experience. I think I should have passed on her when I discovered that she spoke English and her father lived in New York. I was still nervous trying Spanish and relieved to use English - I should have stuck with Spanish and another girl. Other bad sessions have resulted when I didn't trust my instincts and just say "no gracias". Laura was the first girl I saw when i entered Seamans and very aggressive (in retrospective comparison to others). Now I realize that the most aggressive and overtly sexual girls are not necessarily the best providers.

Being nice to these girls usually works wonders! One told me that the typical local customer is very rough, fast, and totally unconcerned with the girl. With another girl, I lifted my head from DATY to see if she had enough, and she yelled "mas"! Some of these girls may not have had a climax since they arrived in SXM.


Second question - everything was covered. In fact, they put the condom on with the mouth as soon as we were in their rooms and washed. This was my first experience with CBJ and only Veronica managed to make it feel good. The condoms reduced the pleasure of the BJ and FS for me - as a result, I did not orgasm with any of them (I am over 50, so need careful stimulation).

Are there any any condom brands that I can bring with me that give the man more stimlation (ultra thin)? The last girl was trying to tell me in Spanish that she could do something to help me come for a couple of dollars. My Spanish wasn't good enough to understand her, but in retrospect I think she was prepared to go out of the room and buy me a better condom from the house.

What do you think? Any tips for an (almost) complete novice will be appreciated.One thing I have had to learn is to always nicely ask for BBBJ, since most girls assume that covered is the regular and they don't do unconvered unless you ask! A few have refused, but most have no problem. Valentina at Carolina brothel said "no problem, more money for me."

For condoms, I am now using Durex Avanti, which are made of some synthetic, not latex. They are new and give extra simulation. I want to try Inspiral condoms too, but they are not for sale in St Maarten. Once I got more into the hobby and brought my own condoms, climax was no longer a problem (of course 3 times in one afternoon may still be too many for now, but 2 times is not a problem).

I am learning more Spanish every week. My most useful phrase is "Como se dici en Espanol xxxx?" where xxx is "eyes", "lips", "pussy", "butt" or just me pointing at some part of the body! This week is learned that the rear is "cola", at least to Mariana from Cali.

I didn't get a reply to my newbie question, but I found the answers by reading the forum and fun experimentation. Thanks.

Van Velen
01-13-07, 23:35
After doing more than 100 trips, I would say that a good place to start is either Costa Rica or Dominican Republic. The shock of the third world may be too much for some so if you need to get back, you are not very far at all. These areas are full of Americans and Europeans who can assist you if you need help, suchas finding a taxi, an Embassy or a doctor.I, too, am a 'newbie' when it's comes to mongering and I would be grateful to receive some advice or tips from members here. Last year I was ready for it, but went to Serbia (mainly for other reasons) and that's not a very easy place to start. Perhaps it is possible to divide countries in different categories like "easy" and "difficult". From what I've heard a country like Thailand falls squarely in the former one. Are there more countries like that, either in Asia or outside? You suggest Costa Rica for it's proximity but I am a Western-European. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

NicFrenchy
01-30-07, 14:56
(not really sure where to post this)

Jan. 26, 2007 -- An anesthetic spray more than doubles the "lasting" time for men with premature ejaculation, according to a study by the company that makes the experimental spray. The metered-dose, aerosol spray is a mixture of the anesthetics lidocaine and prilocaine. It is spritzed onto the tip of the penis 15 minutes before sex.

Before using the spray, the 54 heterosexual men in the study ejaculated, on average, one minute after vaginal penetration. In the test, on four occasions, half the men used the anesthetic spray 15 minutes before sex, the other half a placebo with no active ingredients.

The men or their partners used a stopwatch to measure the time from vaginal penetration to ejaculation. The results:

Lasting time increased to two minutes or more for 55% of the men who got the spray and 35% of the men who got the placebo.

Lasting time increased to three minutes or more for 40% of the men who got the spray and 13% of the men who got the placebo.

Lasting time increased to four minutes or more for 20% of the men who got the spray and 13% of the men who got the placebo.

On average, men who got the spray lasted 2.4 times longer than those who got the placebo.

The spray is called TEMPE -- topical eutectic mixture for premature ejaculation -- by manufacturer Plethora Solutions Ltd. London, which funded the study.

G Funk Era
06-30-07, 05:12
I realize the "best" is somewhat subjective, but surely there are places that are considered "must-visit"?

I would like to make a week-long trip to somewhere close. I'm thinking San Jose, Costa Rica. This seems like the major destination for sex tourism in Central America. Am I right?

I am also planning an eventual trip to Thailand (probably three weeks or so duration). What's the best city? Or would it best to combine more than one destination on such a trip? I would like to see sights, go trekking through rain forests, dive, hang out on the beaches, and of course find pussy.

T Poet
06-30-07, 13:17
In my travels I would have to say Asia in general an Asian Girls know how to handle a man and make him feel like a man. just look at the China, the Philipines, Japan posts and you see poor mongers having the life sucked out of them. poor poor mongers.

TP

Member #4351
06-30-07, 14:47
G Funk Era,

I suggest that you consider Argentina for Latin American mongering and Pattaya in Thailand for Asia. Stay for awhile in Pattaya for mongering and then head to Phuket for diving. They both have very easy access to girls and everything you need to know is on the forums in ISG or "Argentina Private", (click on Argentina on top of the ISG home page).

El Austriaco
06-30-07, 19:43
G Funk Era,

I suggest that you consider Argentina for Latin American mongering and Pattaya in Thailand for Asia.
IMHO, nobody should consider himself a Latin-American monger unless he has experienced Rio de Janeiro first hand. Actually, IMHO, nothing beats Rio de Janeiro overall, period, not even Thailand. If you are a bit more adventurous, you could also try both Cartagena and Medellin in Colombia, who by now are no longer off the beaten track for Western mongers (other places in Colombia still are somewhat).

Member #4351
06-30-07, 21:53
I suggested Buenos Aires because thatīs where I am now, and for a few days more...and Iīm experiencing the great variety of mongering alternatives available. I havenīt been to Rio, but have been to Sao Paolo. Brasil is a fairly expensive mongering destination now due to the decline of the dollar against the real. You also have to hassle a visa. I personally detected an anti-american vibe in the Brazilian embassy in Lima when I did the visa paperwork. I have been to Colombia many times and will be back in a month or two. I think that for a beginner, a more "civilized" destination like Argentina would be a better choice. However I had considered recommending Gregīs place in Medellin as an alternative.

But you have to admit that Pattaya is unlike anyplace else. There are literally thousands of girls outside your hotel (if you stay on soi 7 or 8) yelling "hello hansum man". Not as GFE as other places, (for example Lima where I live), but for full on mongering I donīt think you can beat it.

G Funk Era
06-30-07, 22:16
Thanks for the suggestions. Are there a many pros in Argentina? What are they like? I have read some interesting reports about non-pros in Argentina in the other forums. I do speak a little Spanish and am interested in the culture.

However, I'm really into Asian women, and I think there is greater physical compatibility with them. For background, I'm a white male, 30, fit, but short (5' 5. 5", 142 lbs).

I had a really pleasant first experience with a Korean woman recently. It really got me thinking about going to Asia to find more of the same.

Member #4351
07-02-07, 16:40
G Funk Era,

If you havenīt paid Jackson his $19.99 do it so that you can PM experienced members. To answer you question: Go to Argentinia Private and read the mongering basic thread. There are tons of alternatives from cheap to expensive and very easy. But since you seem to like Asian women and are a bit short, then I suggest you just buy your ticket to Thailand and go to Pattaya. Read the Pattaya forum and you will be fine.

Tile Man4
07-24-07, 06:42
(not really sure where to post this)

Jan. 26, 2007 -- An anesthetic spray more than doubles the "lasting" time for men with premature ejaculation, according to a study by the company that makes the experimental spray. The metered-dose, aerosol spray is a mixture of the anesthetics lidocaine and prilocaine. It is spritzed onto the tip of the penis 15 minutes before sex.

Before using the spray, the 54 heterosexual men in the study ejaculated, on average, one minute after vaginal penetration. In the test, on four occasions, half the men used the anesthetic spray 15 minutes before sex, the other half a placebo with no active ingredients.

The men or their partners used a stopwatch to measure the time from vaginal penetration to ejaculation. The results:

Lasting time increased to two minutes or more for 55% of the men who got the spray and 35% of the men who got the placebo.

Lasting time increased to three minutes or more for 40% of the men who got the spray and 13% of the men who got the placebo.

Lasting time increased to four minutes or more for 20% of the men who got the spray and 13% of the men who got the placebo.

On average, men who got the spray lasted 2.4 times longer than those who got the placebo.

The spray is called TEMPE -- topical eutectic mixture for premature ejaculation -- by manufacturer Plethora Solutions Ltd. London, which funded the study.

frenchy , I see that there are many spray out there now. I never did use them. What you posted about the increase to 2 , 3 or 4 minutes does not sound like the best results if you want to take you care of woman too. She nees more time than this to get her rocks off. I understand this is a man's call if he want to take care of his woman.

I read in the USA that they now use the anti-depression pill ZOLOFT and the guys are geting 15 to 20 minutes from this piil. My friend does use it and he has no side effect. Its a very mild anti-depression. Half this world is depressed , so maybe it will make you happy too. Check it out if you like.

Good luck tile man

Warbucks
08-06-07, 20:23
Where is the best place in Europe for mongering?

Horny29
08-10-07, 23:47
I am from the US, and want to go to a country where I can get the most pussy for the dollar, without getting locked up for it. I am not interested in Africa only.

Johan007
10-14-07, 14:36
Where is the best place in Europe for mongering?

Hi I am Dutch..but live in germany. It all comes down WHAT you like to do....what kind of monger you are. Offcourse also the fact how much money you want to spend for the mongering. Besides also counts what KIND of women you like.

If you like a relaxed club atmospfere...Holland,Germany or Belgium would be perfect. I you like streethookies...try The Czech republic,Hungary,Italy or Spain.
If you like high class expensive escorts...try Sweden,Norway,Russia or Ukraine.
Also in Turkey (coastal region)you can find many Russian,Ukraine or Rumanian hookies.

If you like it adventurous...try Moldova,Belarus or maybe even Albania...LOL

If you love Thai women then Holland,Germany or Belgium is the place to be as we have many of these arround working as hookies in a bar or as independant SW. If you love latinas you should stick to Spain,Italy,Portugal or France.

have fun

Johan

Romano V
02-07-08, 21:37
Where is the best place in Europe for mongering?Saint-Petersburg

Guilem G
07-24-08, 20:07
I you like streethookies...try The Czech republic,Hungary,Italy or Spain.

If you love latinas you should stick to Spain,Italy,Portugal or France.Hi,

I leave in Barcelona, i don't recommend to take street hookers in Spain. Are the cheapest girls but a lot of them are drunked or stoned. Otherwise there are a lot of transexuals working in the street, and you can have a very embarrasing situation.

About latinas, we got few spanish girls working. Best places are the clubs but hard to find national girls. In the clubs the girls usually are from Romania (cause since romania is in the EU it's easy for they to join our borders)

Cybertron
11-23-09, 07:18
Once you fuck a girl, will she give out info about other girls in the business? Will she be afraid of loosing business by giving such info?

Please answer.

Cybertron

Malabo
08-21-10, 05:52
Once you fuck a girl, will she give out info about other girls in the business? Will she be afraid of loosing business by giving such info?

Please answer.

CybertronMost girls will not give out any info about you as they want to hold on to their clients, they are just like any other professional.

Insecurity plays a big part in their daily lives, they can only last so long, so every girl is out looking for that sugar daddy who is going to take her out of the the biz & make her a honourable woman.

It also depends where you are mongering, as the "third world" has poverty & lawlessness to be also dealt with.

Beatings by pimps and of course a lot of them are forced into this business.

I watched a documentary on how young girls from Eastern Europe are taken from their homes & trafficed across countries, so all in all, it's a dog eat dog world & evrybody is out to protect their turf.

Most working girls would circulate negative info about you for sure, if you are the type who treats them badly.

Remember to respect them, because after all they are human too.

Take care,

Safe & happy mongering

Smiley Cool
09-12-10, 15:22
Once you fuck a girl, will she give out info about other girls in the business? Will she be afraid of loosing business by giving such info?Depends. I think your info is not that interesting to you or other guys but girls love gossip and when bored they talk about what they know: sex. I do think they make fun of clients and situations, just like guys do with other guys. It's nature and it's for bonding. Plus, it's the girl job so you pay, they do. And after gossip will happen no matter what.

SCool

Mc Don
12-20-10, 06:33
I am from the US, and want to go to a country where I can get the most pussy for the dollar, without getting locked up for it. I am not interested in Africa only.Look up Angeles City in the Philippines. It works about $35+tip for an all nighters.

Mc Don
12-20-10, 06:35
Depends. I think your info is not that interesting to you or other guys but girls love gossip and when bored they talk about what they know: sex. I do think they make fun of clients and situations, just like guys do with other guys. It's nature and it's for bonding. Plus, it's the girl job so you pay, they do. And after gossip will happen no matter what.

SCoolA lot depends on the country. In some places they gladly do and even get a cut out of it. Describe what you want ask if she has a friend that she can set up for you and give her a tip. It always works.

JohnTodd
04-29-11, 01:52
There was a great site on the net, did not compete with this site, just very informative, it was: www.hogrock.com

The owner removed it from the net.

Anyone know any similar sites?

Thanks

Jmoney
05-09-11, 05:05
Been lurkin for a while and love the site, I plan on takin a trip in June where's the best place to go for mongerin on a budget out of south america or the caribbean? Thanks where in the caribbean do they have brothels, etc

Edward M
05-09-11, 05:44
Been lurkin for a while and love the site, I plan on takin a trip in June where's the best place to go for mongerin on a budget out of south america or the caribbean? Thanks where in the caribbean do they have brothels, etcThe only place I have been in South America is Rio and that is not a budget location any more. I suggest you read up in the Asuncion, Quito, Manaus, and Puerto Plata threads.

Jmoney
05-09-11, 14:26
The only place I have been in South America is Rio and that is not a budget location any more. I suggest you read up in the Asuncion, Quito, Manaus, and Puerto Plata threads.Ok thanks and all of those places are in dr?

Sky Ryder
05-09-11, 14:56
I am from the US, and want to go to a country where I can get the most pussy for the dollar, without getting locked up for it. I am not interested in Africa only.If the total cost of the trip is all that matters, then most likely the DR is the best bet. It also depends on the length of your "adventure".

I have been fortunate to spend times in many parts of the world and IMHO, you cannot beat AC in the Phils for a total mongering experience on a relatively small budget, the problem being the cost of getting there from the USA. If this will be an extended trip the the average cost per day makes it worth while.

If you want diversity in the gals you choose, it is hard to beat the German FKK's. You can stay all day for a single entry fee, which usually includes your meals and there are girls from many parts of the world in the larger clubs.

Just some food for thought!

Edward M
05-11-11, 14:05
The only place I have been in South America is Rio and that is not a budget location any more. I suggest you read up in the Asuncion, Quito, Manaus, and Puerto Plata threads.


Ok thanks and all of those places are in dr?Dude, you will find this forum very helpful when you do some research and ask pointed questions. Asking what country Quito is in is not a pointed question.

Hint: it is the capital of a South American country.

You typed this on a computer with internet connection, right? Here is another hint:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Zona12
05-12-11, 01:51
Look up Angeles City in the Philippines. It works about $35+tip for an all nighters.You are correct of the price but attitudes are changing. Most of the bar girls will only do short time as that will increase their chances to catch another barfine before going to Skytrax Disco.

Dwight Fry
05-12-11, 08:39
You are correct of the price but attitudes are changing. Most of the bar girls will only do short time as that will increase their chances to catch another barfine before going to Skytrax Disco.The thing to do then would be to go hang out at Sky Trax!

Helosan
05-27-11, 11:32
Hello, people, new member first post!

Me and my friend are trying to plan a vacation this summer (7-10 days) , and even though we have study it abit its hard to agree on whats best, we have narrowed it down to this either 1) Prague 2) Budapest or 3) Sofia. While things to consider is A) the price for girls B) how easy it is to get girls, and C) the risk of beeing riped of / mugged!

We are both in the late 20ish.

Hope someone can point us in the right direction and make our first trip together a great hollyday!

Also we thought about renting an apartment insted of going to hotel, is that a bad idea?

Thanks in advance.

Ath Trainer
05-30-11, 22:06
frenchy, I see that there are many spray out there now. I never did use them. What you posted about the increase to 2, 3 or 4 minutes does not sound like the best results if you want to take you care of woman too. She nees more time than this to get her rocks off. I understand this is a man's call if he want to take care of his woman.

I read in the USA that they now use the anti-depression pill ZOLOFT and the guys are geting 15 to 20 minutes from this piil. My friend does use it and he has no side effect. Its a very mild anti-depression. Half this world is depressed, so maybe it will make you happy too. Check it out if you like.

Good luck tile manThe study said it made the subjects last 2. 4 times longer. If a guy usually comes in 5 minutes, would he now last about 12 minutes, or just 3 minutes longer? Two different ways of interpreting the data.

Sky Ryder
05-31-11, 05:22
Hello, people, new member first post!

Me and my friend are trying to plan a vacation this summer (7-10 days) , and even though we have study it abit its hard to agree on whats best, we have narrowed it down to this either 1) Prague 2) Budapest or 3) Sofia. While things to consider is A) the price for girls B) how easy it is to get girls, and C) the risk of beeing riped of / mugged!

We are both in the late 20ish.

Hope someone can point us in the right direction and make our first trip together a great hollyday!

Also we thought about renting an apartment insted of going to hotel, is that a bad idea?

Thanks in advance. I would not choose any of those you mentioned, but would focus on the NSW area of Germany. There are many FKK clubs there and you could visit a different one everyday and have a different experience in each. There will girls from all the countries you highlighted in one or all of these clubs, plus selections from a whole lot more.

The chasing issue is all but forgotten and there are actually some interesting things to do in the area should you tire of pussy for a time. Just my two cents worth. Take a look a the German FKK forums and decide for yourself.

Helosan
06-01-11, 16:14
I would not choose any of those you mentioned, but would focus on the NSW area of Germany. There are many FKK clubs there and you could visit a different one everyday and have a different experience in each. There will girls from all the countries you highlighted in one or all of these clubs, plus selections from a whole lot more.

The chasing issue is all but forgotten and there are actually some interesting things to do in the area should you tire of pussy for a time. Just my two cents worth. Take a look a the German FKK forums and decide for yourself. Thanks for your opinion, but I think I'd appreciate a little more privacy.

WalkingKool
06-05-11, 19:02
Very good place.


Look up Angeles City in the Philippines. It works about $35+tip for an all nighters.

Hotman 666
06-05-11, 19:37
Been lurkin for a while and love the site, I plan on takin a trip in June where's the best place to go for mongerin on a budget out of south america or the caribbean? Thanks where in the caribbean do they have brothels, etcCheck out Jackson's other site.

www.argentinaprivate.com

LOTS of good pussy, red wine and the BEST steak in the world!

What more could a man want?

Enjoy,

Hotman.

SwingerLover
04-01-12, 14:26
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If you want diversity in the gals you choose, it is hard to beat the German FKK's. You can stay all day for a single entry fee, which usually includes your meals and there are girls from many parts of the world in the larger clubs.

Just some food for thought!Yes, you can stay all day for a single entrance fee from 25 to 80 Euros, depending on the club. Use of appliances like Sauna, jakuzi and such, meals, drinks, sometimes even free beer are all included. But not sex! You usually have to pay extra for each session. Which can get expensive very quickly for a busy monger.

So I rather suggest german Partytreffs or gangbangclubs, instead of the FKKs. At those you pay a flatrate entrance fee which includes everything. Of course the club may not be as high standard as the FKK, and you may not find any supermodel stunners there like in some FKK. But you get a lot of pussy for little money. All depends on what you are looking for.

If you are into group sex action, you will definitely get your money's worth at many locations. Here's one example for this coming Tuesday 3rd of April: 11 hour bareback group sex action with 10 girls, who you can do as often as you like, for 90 Euros at a club in Kerpen near Cologne. Free softdrinks, snacks and use of the Sauna and the small outdoor area included. No supermodels, rather avarage looking, pretty girls who love to fuck!

www.partygirls-nrw.de

This site is only available when there's a bareback party about to happen. At other times you will get the regular page of the relax-today club, where the party is being held. I explicitly do not recommend this club for their regular parties, only for the bareback events currently being held there once a month by the bareback-team from Krefeld!

CauzJust
08-22-12, 07:26
Hi,

I would like your advice on my next trip.

Either Dubai, Abu Dhabi or Poland.

For the budget I mean, excluding the flight as I have the miles to cover that.

Sxyman
09-02-12, 11:51
Hi all.

If one regularly goes to the same (friendly) masseuse at an AMP, does she get offended if one decides to try another masseuse at the same AMP just once?

Just wondering. Thanks

TGavin
03-27-14, 11:27
What countries in the world is the easiest getting freebies?

Weben
09-26-14, 09:06
It depends on where you are from and / or your ethnicity. For me, being Western (from the US), I have found that Asian women are very attracted to me being taller, blue eyes. But, I am also professional, well educated, hard working. Those other attributes are important.

Take for example, Hong Kong. There are plenty of places to pay to play. However there are two way to get easy no strings hook ups. First, the Lan Kwai Fung area. Local women go there specifically (but not always) to get a short term hook up. Women in their late 20's to early 40's are horny like men and Hong Kong is more open. Also, Hong Kong has a lot of domestic helpers whom are off on Sundays. They work 6 days a week and spend Sundays shopping or fucking, literally. Women in Hong Kong don't like their husbands going out on Sundays (the typical day off for a domestic helper).

However, I have met women all over Asia, Europe and even the US for short term relationships. In my case, I think it is easier for my with Asian women due to my looks. I am not totally tall and handsome, just in good shape and average. Thus, women feel more comfortable with me and I have had many meetings with women that went from talking at the airport or coffee shop to my hotel room in a matter of hours. And I am talking about attractive, educated women. My worst batting average was in Europe. The women there are hot and they know it, they want wealthy Western men not just the average hard working guys. Not much different than women in the US. Which is totally 180 degrees different from Asian women who not just are attracted to me, but I dated some wealthy Asian women who purchased some very expensive gifts for me. However, they do expect the same appreciation, which sucks because figuring out what an Asian woman wants as a gift is way more complicated they just getting her to climax; which is easy as most Asian men don't perform oral on Asian women, hint. That always get me from just foreplay to sex.

So, I tend to stick to Asia, Canada and Asian women in the Western US for more casual dating. But again, it all depends on where you are from, where you are going, your looks, education, and most important your respect for women. I have also found by not chasing a woman too much, she beings to wonder why and next thing you know she is trying to impress you for your attention. Even the really hot ones.


What countries in the world is the easiest getting freebies?

Dg8787
09-26-14, 18:47
Hi all.

If one regularly goes to the same (friendly) masseuse at an AMP, does she get offended if one decides to try another masseuse at the same AMP just once?

Just wondering. ThanksSome will and some won't. Don't know about this particular one.

LMauricio12
07-13-15, 22:00
Hello,

I am a first time monger and would like to make my first trip. I would just like any recommendations on where my first trip should be out of Sosua, San Jose or Angeles City. I have read most of their forums to an extend. My main factor is money as I would like to have the best experience without spending the most. I know Angeles City is the cheapest with girls but the long distance travel might become a problem. I am flying from the northeast and looking to spend 1 to 2 weeks. Any input from veterans is useful.

Thank you

OneRose
03-18-16, 16:17
Hy guys,

I would like to ask your advice on a new sex trip destination. I would like to go somewhere where the girls are willing to let me film them during the performance (with my mobile phone, no professional stuff) . I already experienced Thailand, Germany and Holland in that matter so I would like something new. Does anyone have any recommendation?

Thanks in advance for the answers and I promise to come with a lot of reviews and photos.

Guy93
04-27-16, 09:29
Don't know where to put this, but I really like Kimi Raikkonen and I think I could manage to look like him in his young days with some heavy changes on my face, hair, losing weight, etc. Of course I still wouldn't be able to look like him, but I guess I would be somewhere close.

And we share some interests and I think I could manage to speak like him.

So do you think this would attract girls outside in P4P world? Remember the fact I still wouldn't be F1 champion or have lots of money or be able to move away from Finland yet.

Stero320
09-03-16, 13:01
Hi guys,

If I set up meeting with the girl in her place and she is absolutely different one comparing to photos, is it normal that I say bye to her and go away? Is it normal in this business?

OneRose
10-23-16, 12:01
Of course it's normal. In this hobby, you need to learn to say no. You are paying, it's you that needs to be satisfied. If she uses fake pictures, is almost for sure she will try to scam you to the end. The best would be to leave. OF course, use your best judgement, and don't put yourself in a dangerous position just because you are afraid of losing some money. Safety and health are far more important than money. Use your best judgement and stay safe.


Hi guys,

If I set up meeting with the girl in her place and she is absolutely different one comparing to photos, is it normal that I say bye to her and go away? Is it normal in this business?

Marlin36
01-17-17, 22:17
Hi,

Going to Miami from Dubai for the first time and I am clueless. Can anyone share pointers on where to stay and where to go. Thanks. I would be happy to extend the same treatment for anyone passing by Dubai.

CenTexCrash
01-30-17, 08:19
Hi there,

I've either been lucky or spoiled, but I have mongered in:

-Tijuana, MX.
-Reynosa, MX.
-Athens, GR.

There's some variations, but the bottom line is.
-working girls are hot 20 somethings with porn star-like or girl next door-like bodies.
-they're working girls, no need to filter out civilian girls from working girls.
-no hoops to jump thru like buy them drinks.
-no fear of raids or being arrested.
-easy to find, set location not hidden in shadows having to ask taxis / guides.
-no stigma, everyone's there mongering.
-place ready to go, no hassles with taxis or hotels barring working girls.
-something in the $20-25 range can get you a 10-20 minute session with nude, oral, several positions.
-quickie not hundreds of dollars for her to stay several hours possibly get robbed.
-no fake or misleading pictures on an escort website profile.

Can any fellow readers clue me on what other cities or countries this happens in?

I was looking into Morocco or Egypt but missing info. As far as Morocco (Rabat, Agdal), you can find girls, but didn't get a clear answer for going rate and made it sound like taxis and hotel policies make you really work a real uphill battle to get her into a room. As far as Cairo, threads suggest something something exists in the shadows and you have to ask around and pinpoint what leads are valid, might be middle aged women not younger girls, and got impression economy is on recovery so Egypt is flipping back from buyer's market to seller's. Maybe I'm mis-reading something.

As far as boring y'all with the subtle differences and not sure what pointing these out accomplish:

Reynosa.
-Walled compound, small admission fee, strips of buildings lined with doorways, girls stand at their assigned doorways which are individual rooms.
-Base service just missionary, but for itemized line items added on, she can add nude, blowjob, or you can negotiate "full service".
-15 minutes.
-Base service is $6-8, if she's worth it, full service is $20-25.
-no middle people, you pay girl directly.
-she hangs around while you get dressed afterwards.

Tijuana.
-designated area of hotels and clubs packed into 3-4 city blocks, girls stand freely out in the sidewalks.
-find a girl you like, you follow her into the hotel she works with, you pay the lobby person $5 for 20 minutes.
-base service is her panties come off and multiple positions missionary doggy and cowgirl many more.
-for extra itemized add ons blow job, nude.
-you pay her.
-starts at $12 but if she's worth it, $25 should be a really good time.
-she gets dressed fast and will leave while you're still collecting yourself. Even if she's friendly, KEEP eye on your cash / phone / ID cards (-on your way out hotel staff may pester you for a small tip for clean up, activate your stealth mode.

Athens.
-designated neighborhoods with apartments along entire city street converted into individual places.
-apartments with white street light, cloth holding door from closing all the way, and sounds of hit music playing inside are places.
-middle aged lady is the Presenter enters waiting room, describes girl, who walks in if she's not busy. Some places have 2-3 girls, but usually one per apartment.
-girls are usually of eastern Euro origins, Ukrainian, Russian, Bulgarian, Poland, Romanian, not many if any Greek girls.
-if you like girl, presenter takes you into bedroom, and demands payment up front and advises you get undressed while girl prepares herself for you.
-flat rate of $25, includes nude, blowjob, multiple positions.
-some but not all girls let you blow your load on their tits / belly.
-10 minutes or if you finish first.
-the instant you finish, she wipes herself, puts her bikini back on and leaves, as she might have another guy waiting in one of the other bedrooms she can start on while you're still getting dressed.
-finding a girl you like can be a little tedious timewise since you have to go into the apt, pray she's ready to present herself, if you're picky it could take 30 minutes to find a girl that fits your taste. If they insist you wait for her to come out, give them two minutes tops and if no girl leave and come back later. If you like the girl, but are still window shopping in case there's a hotter one, but wish to retreat to that girl you marked as maybe, memorize the building's individual features or save the exact location as a GPS ping on your phone.

In all cases they always use a condom, they don't kiss or do anal, no shower afterwards, and you're not the only guy she's been with as she is working. So my original question being: What other cities/countries have a set-up that falls close to this?

Eszpresszo
01-30-17, 15:28
Hi there,

I've either been lucky or spoiled, but I have mongered in:

-Tijuana, MX.
-Reynosa, MX.
-Athens, GR.

There's some variations, but the bottom line is.
-working girls are hot 20 somethings with porn star-like or girl next door-like bodies.
-they're working girls, no need to filter out civilian girls from working girls..First word that comes to mind is Thailand. I was there last month and it can't be forgotten.

But, forget about mere 10-20 minute sessions. Why cheat yourself?

BTW, I'm from San Antonio, and never went mongering across the border. May have to try it some day, but the other places I've been to: Frankfurt, Berlin, Medellin, Bangkok, and Pattaya were pleasant enough and I was at no risk of life there. Even Colombia doesn't have the reputation of danger that Mexico does now, though you do have to exercise some caution. Hard to believe the border towns were considered Gringo friendly when I was growing up.

If you can get a good deal on Spirit Airlines, try Colombia. The women are hot, and petite, unlike the Chunky Monkey hispanic girls you are familiar with. Service can be had for as little as $25 USD for an hour.

I'm going to Sosua, DR in a few weeks and will report back then.

JamesRider
02-28-17, 23:18
I'm not sure whether this is the right subgroup for this and if not please accept my apologies and move it to the appropriate area.

My mongering exploits thus far have been limited to the UK, Brazil and Thailand. Of the three I found Thailand to have the most women amenable to giving a rimjob. My question for you gentlemen is this:

Which country, town or culture have you found that women are most into rimming? Like, is there a place where this is particularly prevalent or culturally normal? My enjoyment of the act is based largely on the enthusiasm of the lady and I would seriously consider a mongering trip to a destination where rimming was seen as a prime sexual activity and performed willingly and with enjoyment.

Any advice, tips or useful thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

JohnDoe9021
05-02-17, 00:57
Not sure if this is the correct place, but wanted to share some info about how the internet works and to help keep your computer / browser safe.

* Do not click links, ever!

* Do not click links, ever!

You should always do your own search way too many ways to gain access to a machine with some simple phishing links. I know I included links below, and you can click if you like. This also includes your phone, malware for phones is all of the map these days.

1. Use Tor - https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en.

2. Make sure your browsers are always up to date.

3. Always use SSL when possible so every site should have HTTPS at the very front.

4. Encryption.

- Whole Disk encryption.

-Windows 10 comes with BitLocker.

-Apple has there own.

-VeraCrypt, but using the built in stuff is easier.

- File Container encryption.

-VeraCrypt https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/.

5. Always shut down your machine all the way, do not put it in sleep mode. Your ram takes 1-60 min to loose all the data, and people can use the ram to run "Cold Boot" attacks.

6. Format and reinstall OS every 6-12 months, depends on how worried you are about the NSA.

IPhone.

1. Do not use a fingerprint, use a six digit passcode or bigger.

- In the USA your fingerprint is considered evidence and it can be used to unlock your device without consent.

2. Do not back up to the cloud.

3. Encrypt your backups, stored on an encrypted disk drive or file container.

4. Disable all tracking.

5. Disable everything on the home screen.

6. Disable Siri. Tons of exploits.

7. Wipe your phone every 6-12 months, depends on how worried you are about the NSA.

Strong Passwords.

1. At least 10 Chars, Upper+Lower+number+special char -- can still be cracked in seconds by the NSA, but should take avg level people a few days.

2. Two Factor Auth - https://www.yubico.com/.

- https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/322lbk/time_required_to_bruteforce_crack_a_password/.

As I Monger around and take pictures, and store data I secure it and the devices that touch that data as if the NSA / significant other was watching.

I hope someone finds use with this info.

HedExp
11-29-17, 20:09
Hi James,

So far, I received great rimjobs from Chinese and African woman. The latter are a bit hit and miss, but girls from Ghana and DOC seem quite open (and Brazil are a good choice too, but you know that already).

Chinese mature ladies, in my experience, always deliver. All meetings in Europe though.


I'm not sure whether this is the right subgroup for this and if not please accept my apologies and move it to the appropriate area.

My mongering exploits thus far have been limited to the UK, Brazil and Thailand. Of the three I found Thailand to have the most women amenable to giving a rimjob. My question for you gentlemen is this:

Which country, town or culture have you found that women are most into rimming? Like, is there a place where this is particularly prevalent or culturally normal? My enjoyment of the act is based largely on the enthusiasm of the lady and I would seriously consider a mongering trip to a destination where rimming was seen as a prime sexual activity and performed willingly and with enjoyment.

Any advice, tips or useful thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Swpc10
04-28-18, 21:32
I'm not sure whether this is the right subgroup for this and if not please accept my apologies and move it to the appropriate area.

My mongering exploits thus far have been limited to the UK, Brazil and Thailand. Of the three I found Thailand to have the most women amenable to giving a rimjob. My question for you gentlemen is this:

Which country, town or culture have you found that women are most into rimming? Like, is there a place where this is particularly prevalent or culturally normal? My enjoyment of the act is based largely on the enthusiasm of the lady and I would seriously consider a mongering trip to a destination where rimming was seen as a prime sexual activity and performed willingly and with enjoyment.

Any advice, tips or useful thoughts would be greatly appreciated.Two places that come to mind that it is found is Hong Kong (K-Pressure) and Kuala Lumpur (Saboon or Band Spa).

Also found it in Brazil.

I find that more the mature providers are more amenable.

NewImage
05-19-18, 07:49
I think we all agree that WG are becoming more mechanical and just get the deed over with for the money.

I find that dick deflating. Being older I would like the kiss, cuddle build up before the act, I'm not a young bull who can repeat and repeat and repeat.

I know it depends on chemistry between you and girl but which SEA countries are my odds higher? Philippines?

Stero320
06-14-18, 16:48
What are the public places where amateurs women are looking for mongers to offer paid sex? I guess hotel lobbies, sometimes clubs, casinos maybe? Any other ideas?

CenTexCrash
06-25-18, 23:19
Hey, for friggin forever Googling this site always brings it up as first result.

Well I hit it up today and ISG was NOT it's own first result it came up like fifth. Coupling that with these added alerts about officials and re-negotiations with card merchants, do we hit the panic button?

Travv
06-26-18, 16:08
Have seen it happen in the Tijuana clubs. Girls want to know if you are safe. They have smartphones and text their friends and meseros. Once I was chatting with a girl and suggested she go with me. She turned to a nearby girl who I knew and was asking something, then when she got a positive answer, then she was agreeable. If you are a regular you likely have a reputation with the chicas, hopefully not that you are violent when drunk. If you have a reputation for being fun and generous, you will have chicas chasing you.


Once you fuck a girl, will she give out info about other girls in the business? Will she be afraid of loosing business by giving such info?

Please answer.

Cybertron

SosuaPlaya
12-18-18, 22:25
Can anyone suggest any European destinations where the women can be had for under 100 Euro short time?

George90
02-23-19, 16:00
I am putting this report here because I don't know where else to put it.

I am sure everyone has read by now that a few days ago the owner of the New England Patriots NFL team was caught in a prostitution sting in Jupiter, Florida. What I am not sure about is whether everyone knows that he was not the only BILLIONAIRE to be caught in the sting!! There is a former (retired) vice president of CitiGroup bank who was also caught. A newspaper had posted 25 of the names of the men (customers) detained by the police.

I just don't understand how these RICH guys, who have private jets, just don't fly off to the Dominican Republic, or Costa Rica, or Panama, or Colombia and get it on there. Why risk the legal and PR difficulties by mongering in the US and getting caught?

Can someone explain that to me? I just don't see how the savings of time and money by staying local can possibly be worth the possibility of getting arrested in the US and facing all the publicity that these guys are now facing. I mean they are FAMOUS!

PedroMorales
02-23-19, 16:54
I am putting this report here because I don't know where else to put it.

I am sure everyone has read by now that a few days ago the owner of the New England Patriots NFL team was caught in a prostitution sting in Jupiter, Florida. What I am not sure about is whether everyone knows that he was not the only BILLIONAIRE to be caught in the sting!! There is a former (retired) vice president of CitiGroup bank who was also caught. A newspaper had posted 25 of the names of the men (customers) detained by the police. I just don't understand how these RICH guys, who have private jets, just don't fly off to the Dominican Republic, or Costa Rica, or Panama, or Colombia and get it on there. Why risk the legal and PR difficulties by mongering in the US and getting caught? Can someone explain that to me? I just don't see how the savings of time and money by staying local can possibly be worth the possibility of getting arrested in the US and facing all the publicity that these guys are now facing. I mean they are FAMOUS!https://www.philly.com/sports/robert-kraft-arrest-prostitution-solicitation-patriots-owner-jupiter-florida-20190222.html

One of our brothers is 80, according to a pic in the list, so we have some mileage left. Why should he have to fly abroad just to root someone and be labeled a sex tourist? It is quite worrying how the cops went in and installed video cameras. I bet the cops weren't New England Patriots fans.

Chocha Monger
02-23-19, 23:46
I am putting this report here because I don't know where else to put it.

I am sure everyone has read by now that a few days ago the owner of the New England Patriots NFL team was caught in a prostitution sting in Jupiter, Florida. What I am not sure about is whether everyone knows that he was not the only BILLIONAIRE to be caught in the sting!! There is a former (retired) vice president of CitiGroup bank who was also caught. A newspaper had posted 25 of the names of the men (customers) detained by the police.

I just don't understand how these RICH guys, who have private jets, just don't fly off to the Dominican Republic, or Costa Rica, or Panama, or Colombia and get it on there. Why risk the legal and PR difficulties by mongering in the US and getting caught?

Can someone explain that to me? I just don't see how the savings of time and money by staying local can possibly be worth the possibility of getting arrested in the US and facing all the publicity that these guys are now facing. I mean they are FAMOUS!The problem with them just flying off to the developing world for some clandestine in-and-out is that they are famous billionaires. They are prime targets for kidnappers and blackmailers. Security arrangements must be robust for billionaires visiting places where people are wacked for a few hundred bucks. In addition, people in their circle are going to ask questions concerning the international travel because they are always wondering what the next deal is that the billionaire is going to close on that could also benefit them. What is a famous billionaire doing in a monger haven? Many American news corporations will contact their local affiliate paparazzi offering to pay a bounty for a good story with titillating photos.

Walking down the street to the local Orchids of Asia day spa to pound some Chinese pussy for $60 to $80 actually raises less eyebrows for these billionaires, as they are rarely ever caught balls deep.

George90
02-24-19, 14:26
The problem with them just flying off to the developing world for some clandestine in-and-out is that they are famous billionaires. They are prime targets for kidnappers and blackmailers. Security arrangements must be robust for billionaires visiting places where people are wacked for a few hundred bucks. In addition, people in their circle are going to ask questions concerning the international travel because they are always wondering what the next deal is that the billionaire is going to close on that could also benefit them. What is a famous billionaire doing in a monger haven? Many American news corporations will contact their local affiliate paparazzi offering to pay a bounty for a good story with titillating photos.

Walking down the street to the local Orchids of Asia day spa to pound some Chinese pussy for $60 to $80 actually raises less eyebrows for these billionaires, as they are rarely ever caught balls deep.You make some good points, Chocha.

It is very true that these billionaires are targets for kidnapping and extortion in mongering destinations. They are targets in the US as well, though the security infrastructure in the US is more reliable and effective than in, say, Colombia. There is the privacy concern as well. The billionaire's peers may very well ask why he is flying off to DR every 2 weeks. My point is that they can even more easily, and more likely, ask why is he walking down the street to the Orchids of Asia day spa 2 or 3 times a week!

Weigh the risks and the benefits. I still feel that a wealthy man who keeps a low profile. Doesn't FLAUNT his wealth. Is much better off paying for play in monger havens than in the US. Of course, each man's mileage may vary.

P.S. Golden Handcuffs is exactly the situation for some of these very rich guys. Great term!

Mongerer88
02-24-19, 17:08
Guys,

No offense meant, but some of this is silly.

You are analyzing this from a perspective of a USA Guy with $50,000 a year of income, and $100,000 of life savings.

Those guys make decisions constantly as to whether to go to the Asian Massage Parlor, or go overseas to a low-price destination, or a little of both.

Sometimes richer married guys make some of those same decisions because they feel they can't leave any USA Paper trail.

But funk, Kraft was an ultra-wealthy single guy. He could have had ten rotating Sugar babies that he met on a Seeking type site. He could have had subordinates do the contacting and meeting. If he didn't want them coming to the mansion, he could have had a condo just for sex. That kind of thing happens all the time in the USA With no repercussions with mere multi-millionaires, not just billionaires.

If he wanted to be safest, he could just pick one Sugar Baby at a time.


You make some good points, Chocha.

It is very true that these billionaires are targets for kidnapping and extortion in mongering destinations. They are targets in the US as well, though the security infrastructure in the US is more reliable and effective than in, say, Colombia. There is the privacy concern as well. The billionaire's peers may very well ask why he is flying off to DR every 2 weeks. My point is that they can even more easily, and more likely, ask why is he walking down the street to the Orchids of Asia day spa 2 or 3 times a week!

Weigh the risks and the benefits. I still feel that a wealthy man who keeps a low profile. Doesn't FLAUNT his wealth. Is much better off paying for play in monger havens than in the US. Of course, each man's mileage may vary.

P.S. Golden Handcuffs is exactly the situation for some of these very rich guys. Great term!

George90
02-27-19, 15:35
Guys,

No offense meant, but some of this is silly.

You are analyzing this from a perspective of a USA Guy with $50,000 a year of income, and $100,000 of life savings.

Those guys make decisions constantly as to whether to go to the Asian Massage Parlor, or go overseas to a low-price destination, or a little of both.

Sometimes richer married guys make some of those same decisions because they feel they can't leave any USA Paper trail.

But funk, Kraft was an ultra-wealthy single guy. He could have had ten rotating Sugar babies that he met on a Seeking type site. He could have had subordinates do the contacting and meeting. If he didn't want them coming to the mansion, he could have had a condo just for sex. That kind of thing happens all the time in the USA With no repercussions with mere multi-millionaires, not just billionaires.

If he wanted to be safest, he could just pick one Sugar Baby at a time.You are right that I am looking at this from the perspective of a middle-class, middle-income, non-important, unknown American man. Heidi Fleiss has written an article about this event and she answered my questions, however unsatisfying those answers are to me.

Why would a man with wealth, power and prestige, who likely has women throwing themselves at him on a daily basis, go to a massage parlor? If he wanted sex, shouldn't he have a madam like me or a number of beautiful women at his disposal?

They do it because it's sex. They do it because it's convenient. They do it because it's fast. They do it because it's hassle-free. At least, until you're caught.

I added the emphasis. For me, the potential hassle from "getting caught", completely erases ALL convenience from locally available sex. So, it's off to where it is legal, however inconvenient that trip may be. I can only suspect that these rich guys think they will never get caught, and if they do they can buy their way out of it.

D Cups
02-27-19, 15:59
Can anyone suggest any European destinations where the women can be had for under 100 Euro short time?Fylis Street in Athens.

D Cups
02-27-19, 16:07
I think we all agree that WG are becoming more mechanical and just get the deed over with for the money.

I find that dick deflating. Being older I would like the kiss, cuddle build up before the act, I'm not a young bull who can repeat and repeat and repeat.

I know it depends on chemistry between you and girl but which SEA countries are my odds higher? Philippines?Here's my two pisos. PI number one. The girls are sweet and not so age conscious. Thailand and Indonesia are a distant second. Cambodia and Vietnam distant third. It's difficult to find SEA girls with big natural boobs, tho. Maybe one in 20. Northern Thailand and Indonesia slightly better odds.

Ray42
05-15-19, 08:53
Was looking for a forum like this one as I knew no other could give me the advice I'm looking for. I hobbied a bit in Medellin 5 years ago and haven't since. I was wondering given my preferences what city you would recommend visiting. Right now I'm debating between Montreal and Prague, but am open to other suggestions:

- I mainly like white girls.

- ie: (https://www.euphoriagirls.com/amanda, http://escortsinprague.com/monika).

- I'm looking to spend around 5 K over 10 days on the actual girls.

- I'm into GFE, Dirty Talk, PSE, moaning, and DFK. Obviously very poor English is a negative for me.

- I like to at least some of the time, checkout clubs where I can talk to girls before choosing them.

- I would prefer to spend the night with a girl I like than have as many quick sessions as possible; I was hoping I could cut the agency out of the equation by taking a girl's number like the girls always wanted to do in Medellin. Also does a whole night come much more discounted in Prague than Montreal? I noticed that trend looking around agency sites.

Please, any open dialogue on this that might be helpful is super appreciated, I need to book my ticket ASAP as I will be leaving the corporate world in a week and need a vacation. Also I'm new to the forum, please let me know if there's somewhere I should post this, on this site or otherwise, where I can get faster educated responses.

Mongerer88
05-16-19, 03:49
I am a Montreal regular and I have only been to Prague once.

Based on your criteria, I would pick Montreal, although either is fine.

There are fewer players trying to rip you off in Montreal. This is an issue in Prague.

Montreal doesn't have clubs. So if that is a deal breaker, choose Prague.

You will simply get solid GFE in Montreal from at least 50 ladies you can choose from every day and night, where there is little difference between the ladies.

You won't get that level of consistent service in Prague. It will be more hit and miss. Prague will have more upsells for what should be very standard service such as BBBJ, CIM, etc. That is frustrating.

From a specialty and fetish standpoint, the cities are equal. Both have a solid BDSM scene from full service providers. Anal is equally available in both cities.

Bare back vaginal or anal is not something I approve of. You see it offered in Prague in a few ads, never in Montreal.

There is not a significant extended hour scene in Montreal at an affordable price. I would love to see Louise Pearl someday in Prague, and I think she would be superior as as extended date in comparison to Montreal providers.

Prague as a touristic city to explore is significantly superior to Montreal.

So each has its pros and cons. If one hour GFE sessions are your thing, you have a better chance of having one after the other of those in Montreal than in Prague.

Hope that helped.


Was looking for a forum like this one as I knew no other could give me the advice I'm looking for. I hobbied a bit in Medellin 5 years ago and haven't since. I was wondering given my preferences what city you would recommend visiting. Right now I'm debating between Montreal and Prague, but am open to other suggestions:

- I mainly like white girls.

- ie: (https://www.euphoriagirls.com/amanda, http://escortsinprague.com/monika).

- I'm looking to spend around 5 K over 10 days on the actual girls.

AdventD
05-17-19, 13:58
Hey all,

Been following this forum and excited to get into it when I get out to Montreal. I've seen green board being mentioned as a means to communicate directly with some SPs. Is that correct?

Also (seemingly dumb question) I've been googling for this green board but I can't find it. Am I missing something?

Mongerer88
05-17-19, 22:18
Hey all,

Been following this forum and excited to get into it when I get out to Montreal. I've seen green board being mentioned as a means to communicate directly with some SPs. Is that correct?

Also (seemingly dumb question) I've been googling for this green board but I can't find it. Am I missing something?I don't think a link to it is prohibited here.

https://www.merb.cc

You can join for free and PM the many agencies and independents who have registered to receive PMs.

SamPeter71
07-13-19, 23:04
I am Indian in mid forties and based out of bay area and have been reading the forums for a while. I have travelled for mongering to many places including Montreal, Bangkok, Europe, Tijuana etc. I hope to contribute to the forum.

I am looking to travel to south america, Europe, Russia, Cuba, Asia etc. Would like to combine mongering and bit of site seeing.

I have been traveling solo so far. I am looking for travel buddies from bay area, can to network and potentially travel together.

[Email address deleted by Admin]Please shoot me an email if you want to connect for a drink and explore options to travel.

I just created my account and will try and see if I can get paid account. But it seems cards are accepted now.

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BigMonkeyP
07-17-19, 23:13
I am Indian in mid forties and based out of bay area and have been reading the forums for a while...Hey Sam,

I'm in the Bay. I return to Medellin end of Aug. When are you headed down?

To get the ability to message on this site, I followed the instructions on how and where to send cash payment, since I'm in the US and credit card won't work because of regulations. You should opt for the membership too. I don't know of any other way to get in contact.

SamPeter71
07-18-19, 04:57
Thanks for the reply. I am working on the same.

I don't have a set dates as of now, Do you mind sharing your dates here? If not I will wait for my PM / paid membership. I will see if I can make at same time.

Once I get my paid membership, hope you send a PM and connect locally.


Hey Sam,

I'm in the Bay. I return to Medellin end of Aug. When are you headed down?

To get the ability to message on this site, I followed the instructions on how and where to send cash payment, since I'm in the US and credit card won't work because of regulations. You should opt for the membership too. I don't know of any other way to get in contact.

Star2019
07-21-19, 15:04
Tried to connect the link. It redirects to tinder. Is it the one or different site.


I don't think a link to it is prohibited here.

https://www.merb.cc

You can join for free and PM the many agencies and independents who have registered to receive PMs.

Mongerer88
07-22-19, 04:27
Tried to connect the link. It redirects to tinder. Is it the one or different site.Works fine. You must have a redirect virus or malware if you are not able to access it from the link.

Not it is a CC suffix.

Not So Sure
01-01-20, 18:16
Are there countries where you can hire a live in maid with the expectation of having sex with her when you want? I have read that this has been normal in some countries in the past. I'm wondering if this still exists. Places that seem most likely would be The Philippines, Thailand, India, Colombia, Brazil, Mexico and maybe even Canada. Does anyone know anything about this?

DesertFox1
02-13-20, 09:16
We're a bunch for 6 friends who are visiting Europe for the first time. Some touristy activity and great food is a priority. Basic clubs are enough for us. This is more like a chilling trip with maybe maximum an hour or two or sightseeing a day. We plan to get around for 5 nights. What countries would you suggest? Not looking at any specialty mongering. Just plain 'ol regular sex and service. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide!

SRM95
03-03-20, 06:29
I had a personal escort 10/10 she had stop escorting since she now runs an agency and decline the offer to be my GF haha. Really sad tbh I met her since I was 23.

So now I started texting an Instagram model, she accept to escort for me. So I am planning taking her to travel somewhere nice but not expensive.

In a pair of days I will be in Sao Paulo, and then I want to go to Europe and take her to a beach there. She want me to take her to Paris, but I've been there many times and is expensive + what I will pay her daily. She is based in Russia, but sometimes travel for photosessions to Thailand, Indonesia.

I am looking somewhere in Europe, so her flight won't be too expensive and I came from South America and ticket will be anyways around $1300.

Where would you recommend me to go?

I love nice beaches, nice food, clubs and also this lady to feel comfortable is a 9. 25/10 girl I wasn't sure she would have reply.

I want to have a nice relation with her to make her my personal escort and meet her any other time. She seems pretty funny while we videocall, and also since I will have some pics with her, her friends can know who I am. And her friends are high class models / playboy, etc.

AndySana
03-05-20, 06:12
I had a personal escort 10/10 she had stop escorting since she now runs an agency and decline the offer to be my GF haha. Really sad tbh I met her since I was 23.

So now I started texting an Instagram model, she accept to escort for me. So I am planning taking her to travel somewhere nice but not expensive.

In a pair of days I will be in Sao Paulo, and then I want to go to Europe and take her to a beach there. She want me to take her to Paris, but I've been there many times and is expensive + what I will pay her daily. She is based in Russia, but sometimes travel for photosessions to Thailand, Indonesia.

I am looking somewhere in Europe, so her flight won't be too expensive and I came from South America and ticket will be anyways around $1300.

Where would you recommend me to go?

I love nice beaches, nice food, clubs and also this lady to feel comfortable is a 9. 25/10 girl I wasn't sure she would have reply.

I want to have a nice relation with her to make her my personal escort and meet her any other time. She seems pretty funny while we videocall, and also since I will have some pics with her, her friends can know who I am. And her friends are high class models / playboy, etc.I would suggest Portugal.

Nice beaches, nice food, clubs. And good value for money. You can impress without running a high budget. Wine region is also good as "romantic" destination.

Easy access from Brazil (direct flight), but not sure for you. Where are you based?

Also which time of the year are you travelling? Right now it is winter in Europe (although weather is good).

Gamer76
05-07-20, 10:35
Are there countries where you can hire a live in maid with the expectation of having sex with her when you want? I have read that this has been normal in some countries in the past. I'm wondering if this still exists. Places that seem most likely would be The Philippines, Thailand, India, Colombia, Brazil, Mexico and maybe even Canada. Does anyone know anything about this?Yes it's true and very much possible, but with it there comes a lot of risks and legal troubles in future.

Gamer76
05-07-20, 10:38
Can anyone suggest any European destinations where the women can be had for under 100 Euro short time?Look out for eastern European countries.

Gamer76
05-07-20, 10:39
Hi guys,

If I set up meeting with the girl in her place and she is absolutely different one comparing to photos, is it normal that I say bye to her and go away? Is it normal in this business?Not normal, don't fall in trap again.

EddieLima
05-07-20, 18:04
Are there countries where you can hire a live in maid with the expectation of having sex with her when you want? I have read that this has been normal in some countries in the past. I'm wondering if this still exists. Places that seem most likely would be The Philippines, Thailand, India, Colombia, Brazil, Mexico and maybe even Canada. Does anyone know anything about this?This is really a thing in Central America. My co-worker has a 28/30 ish maid that he fucks from time to time. Best part is that she lives on site and brings her friends from time to time and before you know it. He's banging one of them. She won't protest, she's the help! I would strongly advise you to hire the maid first. After all, who cares if she can suck your cock, is your house clean? It really helps if you have a nice house on a nice piece of property-not impossible-you're gardener may have a daughter. The poolboy's sister-see where this is going?

Macron
05-29-20, 14:16
This is really a thing in Central America. My co-worker has a 28/30 ish maid that he fucks from time to time. Best part is that she lives on site and brings her friends from time to time and before you know it. He's banging one of them. She won't protest, she's the help! I would strongly advise you to hire the maid first. After all, who cares if she can suck your cock, is your house clean? It really helps if you have a nice house on a nice piece of property-not impossible-you're gardener may have a daughter. The poolboy's sister-see where this is going?And what if the maid and their friends become a little greedy and begin blackmailing the person in question. How will you handle that situation?

Radar99
05-30-20, 05:45
And what if the maid and their friends become a little greedy and begin blackmailing the person in question. How will you handle that situation?Either report to LE and face some uncomfortable questions or threaten to face legal actions.

Macron
05-30-20, 17:15
Either report to LE and face some uncomfortable questions or threaten to face legal actions.Reporting to LE may backfire in my view because they will grill you about your intention to keep a girl without any proper agreement or any witness to say that you have shared a room, or I must say kept a roommate which is actually a WG but you kept it for you to have fun. The WG may also charge some other things like domestic violence or harassment. Remember the laws in general are always biased towards the women.

Radar99
05-31-20, 03:06
Reporting to LE may backfire in my view because they will grill you about your intention to keep a girl without any proper agreement or any witness to say that you have shared a room, or I must say kept a roommate which is actually a WG but you kept it for you to have fun. The WG may also charge some other things like domestic violence or harassment. Remember the laws in general are always biased towards the women.Don't you think the WG may actually agree for a rent agreement? Who shares flat nowadays without trust?

Macron
05-31-20, 10:16
Don't you think the WG may actually agree for a rent agreement? Who shares flat nowadays without trust?Rent agreement will be a legal document and involves many stuff like getting to know all personal details and like kind of kyc stuff. I don't know if any WG will feel doing that if they are looking for a temporary or short stay.

FastFuck
07-15-20, 02:13
Are there countries where you can hire a live in maid with the expectation of having sex with her when you want? I have read that this has been normal in some countries in the past. I'm wondering if this still exists. Places that seem most likely would be The Philippines, Thailand, India, Colombia, Brazil, Mexico and maybe even Canada. Does anyone know anything about this?I doubt if this proposal holds good for Canada? Other Asian countries are good for this but Canada? Seems highly unlikely.

Projector
07-16-20, 06:58
I doubt if this proposal holds good for Canada? Other Asian countries are good for this but Canada? Seems highly unlikely.How can you say?

Midwestern
07-16-20, 08:35
Are there countries where you can hire a live in maid with the expectation of having sex with her when you want? I have read that this has been normal in some countries in the past. I'm wondering if this still exists. Places that seem most likely would be The Philippines, Thailand, India, Colombia, Brazil, Mexico and maybe even Canada. Does anyone know anything about this?We used to have this in China. It was an open secret. Their salary was affordable, something like $1500 per month. At the time, this was double the amount of a regular live-in maid. But a female journalist went undercover to reveal the whole thing. So now, I doubt it exists in China, but who knows?

FastFuck
07-16-20, 09:55
How can you say?Because of the laws mate, where Canadian laws regarding sex and adult matters are different from Asian subcontinent. In Thailand, Philippine, you get live in maids because they come from poor background. In Canada such things are rare.

FastFuck
07-17-20, 09:46
We used to have this in China. It was an open secret. Their salary was affordable, something like $1500 per month. At the time, this was double the amount of a regular live-in maid. But a female journalist went undercover to reveal the whole thing. So now, I doubt it exists in China, but who knows?Which year you were talking about? And how what difference it made with respect to the live in maid? I mean both served sane purpose only? Or it was a sexual relationship that's why they took double the amount?

Midwestern
07-18-20, 01:47
Which year you were talking about? And how what difference it made with respect to the live in maid? I mean both served sane purpose only? Or it was a sexual relationship that's why they took double the amount?I forget the exact year. The sting happened a couple of years ago. There was an agency where the maids were pretty and their salary was double the normal maid salary. So, some journalist went undercover and revealed that they were really live-in escorts who also cooked and cleaned. I guess it was a great deal for the escorts because they could live rent-free and not have to worry about turning tricks for new johns all the time. But someone had to come along and ruin the lives of these escorts.

Projector
07-18-20, 03:06
Because of the laws mate, where Canadian laws regarding sex and adult matters are different from Asian subcontinent. In Thailand, Philippine, you get live in maids because they come from poor background. In Canada such things are rare.I know the economic difference. But don't you think Asian girls, who are living there as students or expats may require financial help and may end up in a bit of transaction. Not as a maid, but in a different role.

FastFuck
07-18-20, 10:03
I know the economic difference. But don't you think Asian girls, who are living there as students or expats may require financial help and may end up in a bit of transaction. Not as a maid, but in a different role.Yes of course that is possible. For that you need to search for them in bars or pick up from clubs. As education is costly students can be dated here. And who knows they can even agree to live with you also.

Projector
07-19-20, 05:41
Yes of course that is possible. For that you need to search for them in bars or pick up from clubs. As education is costly students can be dated here. And who knows they can even agree to live with you also.But comparatively again even that would be more than south east Asia.

FastFuck
07-19-20, 09:51
But comparatively again even that would be more than south east Asia.I didn't get your point. What I was telling that in South Asia, the chances of finding students in financial crunch are more, because it's relatively poor region compared to North America. And on top of that, they agree at less cheaper price. Whereas in Canada or US the price will be a little more.

Projector
07-20-20, 06:44
I didn't get your point. What I was telling that in South Asia, the chances of finding students in financial crunch are more, because it's relatively poor region compared to North America. And on top of that, they agree at less cheaper price. Whereas in Canada or US the price will be a little more.But sometimes it could be unpaid also right? When you are too smart and charming.

FastFuck
07-20-20, 09:33
But sometimes it could be unpaid also right, ? When you are too smart and charming.Unpaid chances are 0.001 percent let's say. You can't have a guarantee that first encounter could be unpaid, however smart you are. But maybe in subsequent encounters you can charm her, seduce her and then have unpaid fun. But then it won't be called a mongering thing. It becomes more of an affair kind of stuff.

TheColdOne
12-19-21, 17:28
I apologize in advance for any stupid questions. Seeing as this is a Rookie / Noob sub-forum I thought this was probably the best place to share my thoughts and get advice.

I have discovered this forum by accident and have known this for the last 2 years.

I wish I hadn't discovered this but I am a porn addict.

But I was wondering this would be a good place to get opinions of senior members who must be very accomplished in their lives. Do you think that girls are trustworthy in general? Do they actually respect men / boys? Do girls who are "rich" care for those who are lower than them? I don't mean to sound misogynistic, I'm not even sure what that means. Would a girl ever sleep with a man not for money?

To all the senior members, has a girl ever slept with you just because she wanted to?

Or is it in their nature to be manipulative?

Are they all manipulative?

Do girls ever initiate asking a guy out or for sex??

I'm probably speaking like a moron right now asking DumbFuk questions.

I just wanted to know if a girl can actually "love" a guy. Is "Love" even real? Or girls "love" the guy's "status".

I'm having a mind cluster fuck.

Greatly appreciate any advice / opinions.

Thanks.

OldSchool318
12-19-21, 18:16
I apologize in advance for any stupid questions. Seeing as this is a Rookie / Noob sub-forum I thought this was probably the best place to share my thoughts and get advice.

I have discovered this forum by accident and have known this for the last 2 years.

I wish I hadn't discovered this but I am a porn addict.

But I was wondering this would be a good place to get opinions of senior members who must be very accomplished in their lives. Do you think that girls are trustworthy in general? Do they actually respect men / boys? Do girls who are "rich" care for those who are lower than them? I don't mean to sound misogynistic, I'm not even sure what that means. Would a girl ever sleep with a man not for money?.Women are women. Be kind, friendly, and generous with your time energy and spirit when you can.

Every one of these women have their own dreams goals and aspirations with what they want out of life and relations with men.

Some will have sex for free, some will try to take every dollar. Some as I have wrote about will play never ending games. Some will think you're the greatest and fall in love with you. Some will be amazing in bed. Some won't. Some will do sex with other girls and watch porn with you. I have written about those girls too. Some won't and will be disgusted.

It is up to you to go figure out what you want and need for life and go out and get it. Be prepared to fail and be rejected. Be ready to succeed.

German Man
12-20-21, 14:54
Do girls ever initiate asking a guy out or for sex??Yes, these girls exist, women have needs, too. Several years ago I was expatriated to China, and in the age group 35 and older there are many underfucked women who are happy about some attention. I befriended and pulled girls from massage shops, and I*also tried and posted ads for casual sex, and behold!, I got answers by decent single women with good education and good jobs. We met, had some chats, and then lots of fun. It was clear that they were looking for sex. Some were ONS, but if all went well and there was chemistry, it could become a FWB for a long time.

My approach always was to be friendly, courteous, and let the woman decide how far it would go. When she was nervous, I said that it is not a problem if she leaves or if we just have a chat. The women felt respected and safe, and it always ended in bed.

TheColdOne
12-21-21, 04:38
Women are women. Be kind, friendly, and generous with your time energy and spirit when you can.

Every one of these women have their own dreams goals and aspirations with what they want out of life and relations with men.

Some will have sex for free, some will try to take every dollar. Some as I have wrote about will play never ending games. Some will think you're the greatest and fall in love with you. Some will be amazing in bed. Some won't. Some will do sex with other girls and watch porn with you. I have written about those girls too. Some won't and will be disgusted.

It is up to you to go figure out what you want and need for life and go out and get it. Be prepared to fail and be rejected. Be ready to succeed.
Yes, these girls exist, women have needs, too. Several years ago I was expatriated to China, and in the age group 35 and older there are many underfucked women who are happy about some attention. I befriended and pulled girls from massage shops, and I*also tried and posted ads for casual sex, and behold!, I got answers by decent single women with good education and good jobs. We met, had some chats, and then lots of fun. It was clear that they were looking for sex. Some were ONS, but if all went well and there was chemistry, it could become a FWB for a long time.

My approach always was to be friendly, courteous, and let the woman decide how far it would go. When she was nervous, I said that it is not a problem if she leaves or if we just have a chat. The women felt respected and safe, and it always ended in bed.Thanks for sharing your experiences. I also can't help but think that many users on a website like this may secretly have their own "girls" who they may have deals with for providing more clients in exchange for commissions, discounts, etc. Many users may actually own their own premises like parlours, etc where these services are offered.

I don't mean to ruffle any feathers but this seems like a general observation after spending time reading this site.

I think most people here learn by making mistakes, over-paying, getting burned, etc.

ScatManDoo
12-21-21, 06:43
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I also can't help but think that many users on a website like this may secretly have their own "girls" who they may have deals with for providing more clients in exchange for commissions, discounts, etc. Many users may actually own their own premises like parlours, etc where these services are offered.

I don't mean to ruffle any feathers but this seems like a general observation after spending time reading this site.

I think most people here learn by making mistakes, over-paying, getting burned, etc.Back when the T. J. Amigos website was active, I met Dennis that owns the MexicoLindoBar escort agency and also another guy that owned a smaller Tijuana escort agency.

They did not hide their identity and Dennis promoted his events on that since defunct website. Dennis still posts on another website I read, but cannot name on this website per ISG's rules.

Dennis does not post on ISG.

Lots of people learn advanced mongering at the school of hard knocks (or as you put it "by making mistakes, overpaying & getting burned."

But there are a lot of dumb mongers, who happily overpay many many times over many many years.

And don't realize how badly they are getting ripped off until (or only if) they spend some time reading websites like this one.

TheColdOne
12-22-21, 16:29
Back when the T. J. Amigos website was active, I met Dennis that owns the MexicoLindoBar escort agency and also another guy that owned a smaller Tijuana escort agency.

They did not hide their identity and Dennis promoted his events on that since defunct website. Dennis still posts on another website I read, but cannot name on this website per ISG's rules.

Dennis does not post on ISG.

Lots of people learn advanced mongering at the school of hard knocks (or as you put it "by making mistakes, overpaying & getting burned."

But there are a lot of dumb mongers, who happily overpay many many times over many many years.

And don't realize how badly they are getting ripped off until (or only if) they spend some time reading websites like this one.It goes without saying for me to move on from this point with a certain balance. I'll need to try my best not to let this thing become an addiction. There are all sorts of people here with different approaches to bargaining & different tastes. After having spent time RTFF some people are aggressive bargainers & others invest in the girl long-term if she's worth it. I'll just have to learn like everyone else.

OldSchool318
12-24-21, 18:21
"Thanks for sharing your experiences. I also can't help but think that many users on a website like this may secretly have their own "girls" who they may have deals with for providing more clients in exchange for commissions, discounts, etc. Many users may actually own their own premises like parlours, etc where these services are offered."

Women are not just a commodity. They are humans. You can try to treat 'them as such if you wish.

I have had a lifetime full of amazing experiences far more great and the stuff dreams are made of. I just always decide good or bad there is fun to be had with them. I have had my own girls sure. They were relationships some amazing, some shit, and some in between.

I'm really not sure what you are looking for. The only deals I have ever provided were for myself and my own pleasure as I enjoy my own hunt.

I always found the most rewarding women where the ones I connected with and wanted to spend my time with and were open to doing the things I like doing. Pro, non-pro, street girl no matter.

Upikey
12-29-21, 08:06
I asked this somewhere else but I think it's more suited to here. How can you make sure that a prostitute you're hiring isn't being forced to prostitute, under the control of a pimp, or otherwise in a situation where you really shouldn't be hiring them for sex? I'm particularly concerned about this in the context of hiring prostitutes in a poorer country where this kind of exploitation is more common. Besides this, are there other things I should be considering to stay on the ethical side of paying for sex?

Dan7373
08-31-23, 03:36
I asked this somewhere else but I think it's more suited to here. How can you make sure that a prostitute you're hiring isn't being forced to prostitute, under the control of a pimp, or otherwise in a situation where you really shouldn't be hiring them for sex? I'm particularly concerned about this in the context of hiring prostitutes in a poorer country where this kind of exploitation is more common. Besides this, are there other things I should be considering to stay on the ethical side of paying for sex?I'd say you need to look at the laws and the rules of the country and how they are enforced or not enforced. Because it's the rules and the laws that lead to exploitation, rather than economic need.

USA was a rich country, when they had black slavery. And the cause of slavery at that time was the laws and the rules of the country, rather than people's poverty or prosperity.

It's something similar now regarding sexual exploitation of women.

It has nothing to do with poverty or prosperity of the country. Women sex-workers are exploited in countries where the laws and the rules force them to hide from the law and the police. Their sex-work is treated as crime, which leaves these women at the mercy of real criminals. These women don't feel free to complain to the same police, who regularly hassle them and arrest their customers.

So, to be ethical about it, you need to avoid countries where women sex-workers don't have the protection of the law and the police, and where such workers don't feel free to complain to the authorities about crimes against them.

I'd say some of the richest countries in the world are guilty of this, and they need to be avoided for P4P.

When workers have the protection of the law and the police, then they work of their own free will. And the reason why they work is to make money for their needs and wants. Which is a perfectly normal thing to do. And if you have a need for the work they do, then it's a mutually beneficial relationship, where both of you get what you need and want from each other. A mutually beneficial relationship is what people call fair and square, rather than exploitation.

Explorer8939
08-31-23, 13:37
We're all rookies if we are going somewhere new.

Before I travel to a new place, I will read the topic here, and look for red flags, such:

Lots of posts with questions, but few actual reports.

Multiple reports about one specific lady (implying that she is the sole provider).

High prices.