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Colashermosas
06-23-10, 14:02
Which is the better city to stay in?
Criterias:
Garotas
University to learn Portugese
Culture/Entertainment
Pricelevel
Nature
Security
Sui Generis
06-24-10, 00:57
Which is the better city to stay in?
Criterias:
Garotas
University to learn Portugese
Culture/Entertainment
Pricelevel
Nature
Security
João Pessoa or Porto Alegre
I think it was very unfair that she lost. After all, they used her to get rich and then she can't even profit from her own unsought celebrity.
What was she entitled to? The girl milked it for a lifetime of free celebrity long past her 'unsought' 15 minutes. J & G could have said any apocryphal girl was the Girl From Ipanema. Seeing what walks around that neighborhood, you know she wasn't the only one who gave them a hard-on, err inspiration.
Flash forward to the year 2000. The girl who was the subject of the song, who is now 54, is living in Sao Paulo and married to a wealthy man. She decides to use some of her husband's money to start a chain of boutiques in Brazil called-big surprise-"A Garota de Ipanema. " Tom and Vinicius are now dead, but their executors go to court to block her from using the name for her stores, citing copyright infringement. And they win! Think of the irony. I read all this in the LA Times about 10 years ago.She actually won the lawsuit. However, Astrud Gilberto lost her lawauit to get added to the trademarks (and credited) for singing on the original recording. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_from_Ipanema
What was she entitled to?
She was at least morally, if not legally, entitled to use the name "A Garota de Ipanema" for her shops. As Mr. Bumble said in "Oliver Twist," "...the law is a ass, a idjut."
The girl milked it for a lifetime of free celebrity long past her 'unsought' 15 minutes.
How do you figure this? Is there any evidence that she earned so much as a single centavo from her celebrity?
J & G could have said any apocryphal girl was the Girl From Ipanema.
I assume by J & G you mean Jobim and De Moraes? And no, they couldn't have said this, because an investigative reporter tracked the girl down and they both agreed that she was the girl.
Please stop trolling forums. All the places you walk, you create discord and bad feeling among the people. Are not you tired?. I know you have much free time and you could use it to make more constructive things.
BOI
I just came back from my trip and I found the last posts.
Thanks for the correction, Houston Player. You're right. Palavrinhas is with a "v".
Regards Boi of Ipanema, what can I say? One only report and one diatribe. Nice.
So who's Boi of Ipanema? Most probably he's "Safado Lover" in disguise. I'm not sure, but their "English" is quite similar.
I don't wanna get into arguments, so.. for whoever is interested, I'll make the story simple: In Spain there are two forums covering Brazil. One of them (PL forum) is very popular, but their administrators are kind of abusive. Instead of moderating, they regularly insult users. And by insulting I mean real gross insults. Believe me, Prosal's semi-insults are child's play, compared with the ones you read over there.
So I complained once about it and I got banned. Forever.
The result was that several folks banned from that forum created a series of threads about Brazil in another one called ForosX. We'd like to think that it's good. It's not in english, it's in Spanish. You can check it at: http://foro.forosx.com/agencias-escorts-independientes-f35.html
By the way, if you see a lot of spam threads, they're directly posted by our "old friends" from the PL forum. Every month we have to clean more than 300 new threads that are just spam. That's their style.
Anyway, in the end actions speak louder than Words. I'm not a troll with hidden agendas. I just enjoy sharing information.
Because Internet is precisely about that: The power of sharing information. And ISG is a great place. Lots of valuable data. Thanks for it.
I also did some thinking during my trip and decided that I'm not gonna argue again with anyone at this forum. If I get insulted again, I'll simply ignore it. Nobody can hurt you if you don't let them.
As I stated in a previous post: O mundo é grande. And by that, I mean: There's space for everyone.
Life is short. Enjoy it and have fun.
Life is short. Enjoy it and have fun.
True.
You must be a real ISG fan. A Brasil lover like you writing ISG posts instead of watching Brasil-Portugal.
BTW 0-0.
True.
You must be a real ISG fan. A Brasil lover like you writing ISG posts instead of watching Brasil-Portugal.
BTW 0-0.
Hey..... I'm doing both things!
Second part was really boring anyway ;-)
Hey..... I'm doing both things!
Second part was really boring anyway ;-)
And the first half was just a game of cards ;)
Beach Star
06-25-10, 20:28
She was at least morally, if not legally, entitled to use the name "A Garota de Ipanema" for her shops. As Mr. Bumble said in "Oliver Twist," "...the law is a ass, a idjut."
How do you figure this? Is there any evidence that she earned so much as a single centavo from her celebrity?
I assume by J & G you mean Jobim and De Moraes? And no, they couldn't have said this, because an investigative reporter tracked the girl down and they both agreed that she was the girl.
Very interesting debate: What is the value of a muse??
Jude in "Hey Jude"? Who was "Michelle" ma belle? And Elvis Costellos Älison" etc etc
Anyway Hughdad is correct, Helo Pinheiro did not lose out. Go past her shop next time in Rio. It is in Rua Vinicius de Moraes, formerly known as Rua Montenegro.
http://www.garotadeipanema.com.br/lojas_garota_de_ipanema.htm
Beach Star
06-25-10, 21:27
Well JR your flaming feuds on foreign forums have nothing to do with us, but, in any case still do not explain the infantile posts/lectures you posted here.
She actually won the lawsuit. However, Astrud Gilberto lost her lawauit to get added to the trademarks (and credited) for singing on the original recording. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_from_Ipanema
Well, this is good news; at least justice was done. I'm gathering that she won on appeal and that my information is out of date. Thanks for the correction.
John Cricket
06-26-10, 00:27
Seems the favela debate moved here, so.
Joy and humanity in favelas? ..people that deserve our respect? ...are you attempting humour ?
According to the World Health Organization, approximately 43 % of the women in Brasil have suffered physical or sexual violence at some point during their lives, and this number comes near 58 % in the poorest areas (favelas and periferias). Yeah, you read that right. Brasil has a sad record of domestic violence, and literacy, social tension and poverty play an important role in it. WHO numbers.
:rolleyes:The WHO report I saw places it at 30%. If you've got new info, I'd love to see a source.
Favelas are pretty varied. Some are horrible, some are just overcrowded working class neighborhoods. Some "asphalt" neighborhoods are far worse than favelas. It all depends.
A poster who writes off hundreds of thousands of people as lowlife that should be removed puts himself in a category with lowlifes that wanted to exterminate Jews. Sadly it's not an uncommon attitude among certain middle-class RJ lowlife but that makes it none the more excusable really.Spot on!
According to city planners, a "favela" is any irregularly occupied stretch of land. A lot of places gringos consider to be favelas because they look ramshackle actually aren't: they're just poor neighborhoods. And there are a couple of places that are called "favelas" which you'd never believe! They've got condos on that land.
So the idea that somehow there's one type of favela and one type of favela resident is just wrong, as is the idea that these people are somehow "worse" (or "better") than the rest of Rio.
Yeah, plenty of favelados do indeed steal water, electricity, internet, cable T.V., etc. But guess what? So do many "good citizens" on the asphalt. A friend of mine works for Light (the city power company) and he says that while favelas are just big black holes, powerwise, they are only a relatively small part of the overall problem when it comes to energy theft in Rio. Down in the SAARA last week, I found out thatmny stores there were also running gatos - especially in the late afternoons and evenings.
In other words, the idea that everything would just be peachy keen and law-abiding if we got rid of the favelas is straight up bullshit.
Oh, and drugs you say?
Yeah, there are a lot of drugs sold in the favelas but favelados aren't doing most of the buying. Nor does the money from those sales stay in the favelas. Again, a big portion of the criminals that make the drug economy go don't seem to be favelados.
Those "people" work, but do they contribute anything? No.Sure they do. first of all, they contribute all that cheap labor you so readily consume. If they were paying all the things you want them to pay, they'd have to make a better wage and then guess what? You'd find that wage being paid in everything you buy. In fact, this is actually happening to a certain degree right now.
Secondly, notice how we don't have sales tax in Brazil? Actually we do. Dozens of 'em. All carefully encoded in the prices you and I pay. While that favelado might not be paying an IPTU, he pays much more of his salary in taxes, percentually speaking, just buying the necessities of life.
By now i have received dozens of PMs of support, thanking me for the posts and one clear message: DON'T MESS WITH THESE PEOPLE! THEY'RE DANGEROUS!
Of course they are talking about PROSAL and PERKELE, the bullies of the forum.I'm sure that they think that they are dangerous, if by "dangerous" you mean anonymously insulting people on a sex tourism forum. But I've met Perkele in real life and I can assure you that the guy is as middle-class vanilla gringo as they come. Prosal seems to be another flavor of non-petroleum-based lubricant entirely. Years ago he loved Brazil, then something happened and rumor has it involved cops and a GdP who took him for a very costly ride. Now he hangs out here only to deal with his dor de cotovelo.
Its like a brasilian friend of mine says "Brasil is not for amateurs".Wow! You're a friend of Tom Jobim, the author of that quote? I must admit, I'm impressed. Not the least because Tom's been dead for 16 years now, so if you're still talking to him, you've either got a kick-ass Mãe de Santo or some very excellent hootch. :D
Well JR your flaming feuds on foreign forums have nothing to do with us, but, in any case still do not explain the infantile posts/lectures you posted here.
Thanx for your kind words. No arguing.
Wow! You're a friend of Tom Jobim, the author of that quote? I must admit, I'm impressed. Not the least because Tom's been dead for 16 years now, so if you're still talking to him, you've either got a kick-ass Mãe de Santo or some very excellent hootch. :D
Well.
Sorry to say, I do not know Tom Jobim, but I do have a friend who quotes that to me all the time.
All I can say is that you're another wannabe brasilian gringo who just loves all in favelas. That's your choise and I couldn't care less.
Have a nice life.
Adeus
The WHO report I saw places it at 30%. If you've got new info, I'd love to see a source.
I don't know why I even bother to answer. Anyway if you google a bit you'll easily find this:
" ....A population-based investigation with a representative sample was conducted in Brazil in 2000-2001, as part of the WHO Multicountry Study on Women's Health and Domestic Violence Against Women. It found that approximately 41% of the women had suffered physical or sexual violence at the hands of some aggressor at some point during their lives (> 15 years of age)....."
Oh well, my memory has played tricks on me. It's not 43% of the brasilian women that suffer from physical or sexual violence, but 41%. Sorry.
Prosal seems to be another flavor of non-petroleum-based lubricant entirely. Years ago he loved Brazil, then something happened and rumor has it involved cops and a GdP who took him for a very costly ride. Now he hangs out here only to deal with his dor de cotovelo.
Nice try. Deriding, insulting and arguing on internet with everyone and everything to boost your ego and try to prove that you are right and anyone else is wrong is still your hobby obviously. Too bad that most people know you inside out now and don't give a rat's ass about what you say. Nonetheless, to your credit, you have been the inspiration for equally malevolent, offensive and bitter know-it-all emulators like Hughdad, one of your spiritual sons. You're a kind of guru in some way. Bravo. :)
Boy Of Ipanema
06-26-10, 11:02
Well JR your flaming feuds on foreign forums have nothing to do with us, but, in any case still do not explain the infantile posts/lectures you posted here.In fact, he is a very sad and infantile guy, as their posts. The worst thing is that he gives advice to others but he don't follow it.
BOI
John Cricket
06-26-10, 11:32
All I can say is that you're another wannabe brasilian gringo who just loves all in favelas. That's your choise and I couldn't care less.Let me see if I understand correctly: I point out that favelas are really diversified, that middle class people on the asphalt are actually the biggest problem when it comes to this town's teft of services and that drugs are by-and-large consumed by the middle class, with the rich taking the lion's share of the profits.
To you, this means that I love all in the favelas, does it? :D Based on what have you arrived at that conclusion, might I ask?
What I'm actually saying, my dear Perky buddy, is that the middle and upper classes are at least as criminal as the poor. Hell, I bet if I went to your apartment building, I could find a dozen code violations without even looking hard. Starting with illegal tapping of cable T.V. and internet, which is endemic all over Brazil.
Oh well, my memory has played tricks on me. It's not 43% of the brasilian women that suffer from physical or sexual violence, but 41%. Sorry.
Fair enough. Can you give us a source?
Seriously, I've read the WHO report and it said, quite clearly, 30% (which is still as high as fuck). Either there's a different WHO report out there which I don't know about (quite possible, which is why I'd like to see a source) or you've got that number wrong.
Nice try. Deriding, insulting and arguing on internet with everyone and everything to boost your ego and try to prove that you are right and anyone else is wrong is still your hobby obviously. Too bad people know you inside out now. Nonetheless, to your credit, you have been the inspiration for equally malevolent, offensive and bitter know-it-all emulators like Hughdad, one of your spiritual sons. You're a kind of guru in some way. Bravo.
Oh, come on Prosal. After two full weeks of you deriding, insulting and arguing with people you don't like, you're hardly in any position to play the wounded little fawn because of my lube joke! But I'm amazed that you seem to think that you have acquired a cabal of evil enemies who are engaged in some sort of conspiracy to do you ill. Jesus, man! Do you make virtual enemies that easily?
I posted to clear up common misconceptions about the favelas and their relationship to crime. I tweaked you because in order to make that post, I had to read through weeks worth of insults coming out of your keyboard and directed against anyone who had the audacity to disagree with you.
You don't come to Brazil and when you did, you apparently got pwned by some little lady. It's no wonder, then, that you're as bitter as bitter can be about this place.
The problem comes when you use your bitterness as an excuse to consciously misinform people.
...to your credit, you have been the inspiration for equally malevolent, offensive and bitter know-it-all emulators like Hughdad, one of your spiritual sons. You're a kind of guru in some way. Bravo. :)He ain't no Cyndi Lauper, that's for sure.
Cheers!
Let me see if I understand correctly: I point out that favelas are really diversified, that middle class people on the asphalt are actually the biggest problem when it comes to this town's teft of services and that drugs are by-and-large consumed by the middle class, with the rich taking the lion's share of the profits.
To you, this means that I love all in the favelas, does it? :D Based on what have you arrived at that conclusion, might I ask?
What I'm actually saying, my dear Perky buddy, is that the middle and upper classes are at least as criminal as the poor. Hell, I bet if I went to your apartment building, I could find a dozen code violations without even looking hard. Starting with illegal tapping of cable T.V. and internet, which is endemic all over Brazil.
Yeah, right.
You are so clueless that its not worth even try to discuss with you.
Have a nice life.
Have a nice life.
I somehow understand Macunaima's bitterness. Living on a teacher's salary (1000 RL/month?) in a city like Rio must suck ass. :)
Living on a teacher's salary (1000 RL/month?) in a city like Rio must suck ass. :)On that note, Bloomberg Businessweek is reporting that Rio ranks as the 28th most expensive city in the World for 2010. NYC ranks 29th. This according to "ECA International", a global human resources company. In 2009 Rio ranked 132nd.
"ECA’s ranking is based on a basket of 128 goods that includes food, daily goods, clothing, electronics, and entertainment, but not rent, utilities, and school fees, which are not typically included in a cost-of-living adjustment. ECA researchers and local partners gathered prices in September 2009 and March 2010 for domestic and imported brands that are internationally recognized—such as Kellogg’s cereal or Sapporo beer. While lower-priced goods and services are available in these markets, the study estimated the cost of supporting the standard of living expected by expatriate employees."
These researchers didn't have lunch at a kilo place, as lunch cost them $50USD or $R88.92! I wonder where they went and what they ate.
BTW, Tokyo is ranked # 1.
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/06/0622_most_expensive_cities/1.htm
On that note, Bloomberg Businessweek is reporting that Rio ranks as the 28th most expensive city in the World for 2010. NYC ranks 29th. This according to "ECA International", a global human resources company. In 2009 Rio ranked 132nd.
Yeah, that is exactly what I was thinking about.
I would be interested to have the full list by the way. Mercer Consulting used to publish each year completely (145 cities) its Cost of Living Survey, but seems that now only a very small part (first 30, as on your link) is available for free. In 2009 Sao Paulo was 25th, and Rio 31st most expensive city BTW.
These researchers didn't have lunch at a kilo place, as lunch cost them $50USD or $R88.92! I wonder where they went and what they ate.
In Aprazivel, Fasano Al Mare, Olympe, Olivier Cozanor, Satyricon, ect, it would have costed them much more.
Good parenthesis to remind to the people here who seem obsessed by favelados and lower-end classes, and seem to reduce Brasil to this stratum of population, that there's ALSO a significant range of Brasil's population who lives by first world standarts (go out a lot at "in" places, travel abroad, dress fancy, ride nice cars, ect).
In fact, he is a very sad and infantile guy, as their posts. The worst thing is that he gives advice to others but he don't follow it.
BOI
Just two reports and two personal attacks. But I'm not getting into it.
Boy of Ipanema = Safado Lover = Gato Safado. Just for the record.
These researchers didn't have lunch at a kilo place, as lunch cost them $50USD or $R88.92! I wonder where they went and what they ate.
I think you misread it. The article said that lunch at a restaurant would cost US$25. Maybe you were thinking of lunch for two. You could easily spend US$25 for lunch at Marius or Porcao.
Boy Of Ipanema
06-27-10, 20:06
Nice try Jota Erre, but no.
Everyone here knows that your infantile mind is not enough for most.
Maybe one of your friends from Argentina, can psychoanalyze you.
You're welcome.
What's to misread?
"No. 28: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Rank in 2009: 132
FOOD: Lunch at a restaurant: $25
Can of beer from grocer: $1.48
One kg of rice: $1.68
One dozen eggs: $2.57
ENTERTAINMENT: Movie ticket: $11.27
APPLIANCES: Washing machine: $1,184
Currency trends brought Rio de Janeiro on to this list, as the real strengthened 34 percent against the U.S. dollar in 2009, reported Reuters. The city is an important industrial and financial center for Brazil and produces petroleum products, processed foods, chemicals, and pharmaceuticals."
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/06/0622_most_expensive_cities/29.htm
What's to misread?
"No. 28: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Rank in 2009: 132
FOOD: Lunch at a restaurant: $25
Can of beer from grocer: $1.48
One kg of rice: $1.68
One dozen eggs: $2.57
ENTERTAINMENT: Movie ticket: $11.27
APPLIANCES: Washing machine: $1,184
Currency trends brought Rio de Janeiro on to this list, as the real strengthened 34 percent against the U.S. dollar in 2009, reported Reuters. The city is an important industrial and financial center for Brazil and produces petroleum products, processed foods, chemicals, and pharmaceuticals."
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/06/0622_most_expensive_cities/29.htm
What do you mean, what's to misread? Your original quote said that they paid US$50 for lunch, when the article clearly stated that they paid US$25. Either you misread it or you're innumerate.
To be exact, tax reciprocity.
Brazil, I know, taxes the worldwide income of foreign residents who stay in the country more than 180 days of the year (whether by resident's visa or by making a visa run then returning). And I found my income falls into the 28% (or so) bracket, which is a sizable bite.
However, the website of the Brazilian consulate here in the USA says that their Receita Fazenda (RF) recognizes "tax reciprocity." What this means is that the IRS will accept your proof of having paid income tax in Brazil, and then they'll only require you to pay the difference between your Brazil income taxes and the IRS tax rate - so, in reciprocity, the RF will ask an IRS-taxed USA citizen, residing in Brazil, to pay the difference between their USA taxes and the Brazil tax rate.
I have a Civil Service pension from the U.S. government. There is no way I can avoid paying the IRS up-front on that. So let's say I pay 20% to the IRS. With "tax reciprocity" the RF would accept my proof that I'd already paid the IRS 20% of my pension, and would accept "the difference" (28%-20%, or 8%) as their share.
Does anyone have "proof" of whether or not this 'tax reciprocity' is accepted in fact?
I wouldn't be uncomfortable with paying 28% total, shared between the IRS and the RF. I pay about that, between IRS and Maryland, right now. But 48% (28% RF + 20% IRS) would be too big a bite for me.
To be exact, tax reciprocity.
Brazil, I know, taxes the worldwide income of foreign residents who stay in the country more than 180 days of the year (whether by resident's visa or by making a visa run then returning). And I found my income falls into the 28% (or so) bracket, which is a sizable bite.
However, the website of the Brazilian consulate here in the USA says that their Receita Fazenda (RF) recognizes "tax reciprocity." What this means is that the IRS will accept your proof of having paid income tax in Brazil, and then they'll only require you to pay the difference between your Brazil income taxes and the IRS tax rate - so, in reciprocity, the RF will ask an IRS-taxed USA citizen, residing in Brazil, to pay the difference between their USA taxes and the Brazil tax rate.
I have a Civil Service pension from the U.S. government. There is no way I can avoid paying the IRS up-front on that. So let's say I pay 20% to the IRS. With "tax reciprocity" the RF would accept my proof that I'd already paid the IRS 20% of my pension, and would accept "the difference" (28%-20%, or 8%) as their share.
Does anyone have "proof" of whether or not this 'tax reciprocity' is accepted in fact?
I wouldn't be uncomfortable with paying 28% total, shared between the IRS and the RF. I pay about that, between IRS and Maryland, right now. But 48% (28% RF + 20% IRS) would be too big a bite for me.If Brazil is making retirement visa available based on $2000 monthly pension, someone must believe it possible to live on that sum.
SlimHoleDrill
06-28-10, 04:04
To be exact, tax reciprocity.
Brazil, I know, taxes the worldwide income of foreign residents who stay in the country more than 180 days of the year (whether by resident's visa or by making a visa run then returning). And I found my income falls into the 28% (or so) bracket, which is a sizable bite.
However, the website of the Brazilian consulate here in the USA says that their Receita Fazenda (RF) recognizes "tax reciprocity." What this means is that the IRS will accept your proof of having paid income tax in Brazil, and then they'll only require you to pay the difference between your Brazil income taxes and the IRS tax rate - so, in reciprocity, the RF will ask an IRS-taxed USA citizen, residing in Brazil, to pay the difference between their USA taxes and the Brazil tax rate.
I have a Civil Service pension from the U.S. government. There is no way I can avoid paying the IRS up-front on that. So let's say I pay 20% to the IRS. With "tax reciprocity" the RF would accept my proof that I'd already paid the IRS 20% of my pension, and would accept "the difference" (28%-20%, or 8%) as their share.
Does anyone have "proof" of whether or not this 'tax reciprocity' is accepted in fact?
I wouldn't be uncomfortable with paying 28% total, shared between the IRS and the RF. I pay about that, between IRS and Maryland, right now. But 48% (28% RF + 20% IRS) would be too big a bite for me.
So you are saying your Brazilian tax bite is more. That seems unusual. Usually the Us is higher and you can claim the Brazilian tax paid on the Us return. If you really are in this situation, I would recommend you get a Brazilian tax preparer because it probably won't be easy.
Gents,
I'm looking into spending a few months in Brasil while still working on my online businesses from Brasil. Now, my clients are from all over the world but the majority are from the US. What I'd like to know is is there a way I can have a local US # in the US and when my US based clients call me in Brasil (or wherever in the world I happen to be), it would be as if they'd be calling a # in the US. Is there such a thing? I thought of getting a Skype # but would that do it? How about Voip? Has any one of you guys used a Skype # to receive business calls from the US? How do you guys in the same situation handle that part of doing businesss while in Brasil (or anywhere)? I'd appreciate any feedbacks and tips you guys could provide me.
what do you mean, what's to misread? your original quote said that they paid us$50 for lunch, when the article clearly stated that they paid us$25. either you misread it or you're innumerate.oh i see what you mean. thanks for pointing out my error. in the future, i shall endeavor to be more accurate. innumerate? no, don't think so. more like doing too many things at once.
you having a bad day when you posted that? kinda harsh reply for sumthin so minor. suggest you lay off the caffeine or find yourself a nice gdp to take the edge off. :)
sprite
look into magicjack. $39.99 to set it up then $19.99 a year, (iirc). it has a us number, plug the device into any pc with high speed connection. it does what you're looking for.
http://www.magicjack.com/5/index.asp
Exec Talent
06-28-10, 13:01
Gents,
I'm looking into spending a few months in Brasil while still working on my online businesses from Brasil. Now, my clients are from all over the world but the majority are from the US. What I'd like to know is is there a way I can have a local US # in the US and when my US based clients call me in Brasil (or wherever in the world I happen to be), it would be as if they'd be calling a # in the US. Is there such a thing? I thought of getting a Skype # but would that do it? How about Voip? Has any one of you guys used a Skype # to receive business calls from the US? How do you guys in the same situation handle that part of doing businesss while in Brasil (or anywhere)? I'd appreciate any feedbacks and tips you guys could provide me.
If you are serious about doing business make sure you have at least two options. I have MagicJack, Skype, Vonage and also Yahoo. I had an important conference call one day and the internet sucked where I was staying. I went to a hotel and connected via Skype. Wasn't working. I immediately connected via my Yahoo account and everything was good.
I also have a lot of international business and with Vonage you can sign up for an international plan which allows you to call landlines in other countries for free. Unfortunately, lately I have been having some connection issues when calling certain countries. MagicJack rates are pretty high for international calls.
sprite
look into magicjack. $39.99 to set it up then $19.99 a year, (iirc). it has a us number, plug the device into any pc with high speed connection. it does what you're looking for.
http://www.magicjack.com/5/index.asp
magicjack looks like a good option but i remeber reports on here or elsewhere that the reception was bad from brazil to the us, guys said it sounded under water. true?
Suggest you lay off the caffeine or find yourself a nice GDP to take the edge off. :)
Thanks for the suggestion. In fact, I plan to do exactly that, like this week.:D
magicjack looks like a good option but i remeber reports on here or elsewhere that the reception was bad from brazil to the us, guys said it sounded under water. true?it depends on your internet speed. if you have a cennection of 3mb down and 1mb up it is like a normal cellphone. if your conneciton is 750kbps down and 350 kbps it is garbled beyone recognition. the nice thing about magicjack is you can call toll free numbers and talk forever cause thats how long it takes to resolve a bankcard or credit card problem if spmething goes wrong.
I had an important conference call one day and the internet sucked where I was staying.Which hotels have you found to have the fastest internet?
Professor 1
06-29-10, 01:39
Gents,
I'm looking into spending a few months in Brasil while still working on my online businesses from Brasil. Now, my clients are from all over the world but the majority are from the US. What I'd like to know is is there a way I can have a local US # in the US and when my US based clients call me in Brasil (or wherever in the world I happen to be), it would be as if they'd be calling a # in the US. Is there such a thing? I thought of getting a Skype # but would that do it? How about Voip? Has any one of you guys used a Skype # to receive business calls from the US? How do you guys in the same situation handle that part of doing businesss while in Brasil (or anywhere)? I'd appreciate any feedbacks and tips you guys could provide me.
I have a MagicJack number. It works well. When I used it in a Peru hotel, I had elevator music on my side, but my U.S. person did not hear anything. I use Skype too, but MagicJack works well.
Thanks a lot guys for all your very helpful suggestions. I am going with MagicJack. Will report how it goes once I start using it. Last night, I went on their site and used their online customer service instant chat thing and the rep told me that I can basically make and receive unlimited calls to the US and Canada from anywhere in the world. I made the guy repeat that twice to ensure it was true and each time the guy said yes. Sounds too good to be true. Anyone can chip in about whether this is indeed the case?
How would you guys rank these (MagicJack, Voip, Skype, Yahoo) in terms of reliability?
Much appreciated.
the rep told me that I can basically make and receive unlimited calls to the US and Canada from anywhere in the world. I made the guy repeat that twice to ensure it was true and each time the guy said yes. Sounds too good to be true. Anyone can chip in about whether this is indeed the case? How would you guys rank these (MagicJack, Voip, Skype, Yahoo) in terms of reliability?
Much appreciated.As long as you have a fast internet connection it's COMPLETELY reliable. But fast in other contries is not fast in USA. You need 3Mb up and 1Mb down for no glitchs. Minumum is 1Mb down and 300K up but that's rough and you will cut out alot and people will want to hang up on you. You can talk to the USA for 24 hours nonstop. It's truly FREE. If you want to call other countries you need to buy packs of 40 minutes and some countries (South America and Europe for example) are cheep. I don't think you will find much cheaper. You cannot call Haiti; you get Long Island NY instead.
Gents,
I'm looking into spending a few months in Brasil while still working on my online businesses from Brasil. Now, my clients are from all over the world but the majority are from the US. What I'd like to know is is there a way I can have a local US # in the US and when my US based clients call me in Brasil (or wherever in the world I happen to be), it would be as if they'd be calling a # in the US. Is there such a thing? I thought of getting a Skype # but would that do it? How about Voip? Has any one of you guys used a Skype # to receive business calls from the US? How do you guys in the same situation handle that part of doing businesss while in Brasil (or anywhere)? I'd appreciate any feedbacks and tips you guys could provide me.
http://www.vonage.com/
Several people I know of are using it in Brasil and Argentina with no problem. All you need is a billing address in USA I think.
I was using the same kind of services of a company from my country with no problem. Unfortunately they went broke for other reasons.
Thanks El Greco.
Can non US residents/citizens use Vonage? I tried to get a toll free # from them for one of my businesses, but they replied back to me that at this time, only US residents could use that service. I don't have a US mailing address and I don't have the slightest desire to live in the US. Any suggestions as to how to get a US mailing address without going/living there?
Valeu.
Thanks El Greco.
Can non US residents/citizens use Vonage? I tried to get a toll free # from them for one of my businesses, but they replied back to me that at this time, only US residents could use that service. I don't have a US mailing address and I don't have the slightest desire to live in the US. Any suggestions as to how to get a US mailing address without going/living there?
Valeu.
I thought you were an American citizen. Since you are not someone who is living there has to do it for you I guess.
Try to contact one of those companies that provide "office" or secretarial services. They might be able to provide you with a mailing address in th US.
Also check if Vonage accepts non US credit cards.
The people I was talking about are US citizens living abroad.
Exec Talent
07-04-10, 12:32
Which bakery do you go to all the time?
All of them. :)
Poucolouco
07-05-10, 02:54
All of them. :)
That figures.
Sarah Palin said the same thing.
Exec Talent
07-05-10, 16:44
That figures.
Sarah Palin said the same thing.
So Sarah doesn't have to pay for her purchases before hand either? Maybe she could introduce you around too.
Poucolouco
07-05-10, 17:05
So Sarah doesn't have to pay for her purchases before hand either? Maybe she could introduce you around too.
Sarah couldn't remember either, so she just said, "all of them."
Sou não...;)
Your suggestion of using those office services is a very good one. I'll check into that.
Valeu amigo. :)
I thought you were an American citizen. Since you are not someone who is living there has to do it for you I guess.
Try to contact one of those companies that provide "office" or secretarial services. They might be able to provide you with a mailing address in th US.
Also check if Vonage accepts non US credit cards.
The people I was talking about are US citizens living abroad.
Exec Talent
08-26-10, 14:21
A few years back I was interested in renting one of the new Kiosks on Copacabana Beach. I had a Brazilian look into the prices and at that time they were R$225,000 for a five year lease and then there was a monthly rental. I told him that at that rent only large companies who wanted to have an advertisement on the beach would be renting the Kiosks. Turns out I was right.
This past week in O Globo there was an advertisement seeking renters for the Kiosks. I thought maybe Orla Rio had come to its senses and had reduced the rent to a level where an operator could make money. Then I woke from my dream and realized I was in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Orla Rio has now turned over the administration of the Kiosks to a private company that is charging R$400,000 for five years plus R$4000 a month. They were nice enough to add that of course that is negotiable.
This past week in O Globo there was an advertisement seeking renters for the Kiosks. I thought maybe Orla Rio had come to its senses and had reduced the rent to a level where an operator could make money. Then I woke from my dream and realized I was in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Orla Rio has now turned over the administration of the Kiosks to a private company that is charging R$400,000 for five years plus R$4000 a month. They were nice enough to add that of course that is negotiable.Wow. Assuming the rent doesn't get jacked up year after year, that's at least R$640,000 which means you need to make R$128,000 a year in sales just to come out even. Actually, it's more since I haven't calculated supplies and labor.
I'm sure those kiosks make good money but could it be that much?? Even with the World Cup and Olympics coming up, which would increase sales and prices -- but once those events are over, tourists will leave asap because of security concerns. Sounds kind of shady to me.
Crusader560
08-27-10, 08:59
Magicjack is great. It was a life saver, one time when I was stuck in Brazil for a couple of days. But the only problem with it is, when your computer receives updates which is mostly everyday. Magicjack will not restart. And you will have to unplug it, then plug it back in for it to work. You can increase the call quality, by increasing it's priority on your computer.
Skype is horrible for work purposes. The call quality will be a problem a lot. And you will miss a lot of calls.
Vonage is good. A lot of people use them down there. But I use a company called (Lingo).
Lingo I feel is better than Vonage. It is cheaper and easy to use with great call quality. But if you are going to be a heavy user. I believe you should have more than one company, and multipule accounts. Because I think all of them will cancel you if they feel you are selling there service, or using it for business.
So be careful.
Eric Cartman
09-04-10, 08:08
Guys -
Anyone know any good sources for high-quality, long-term apartment rentals in Copa and Ipanema. I've hit up a lot of online .com.br real estate sites but selection appears quite poor -- can't tell if it is the sites or the market.
Particularly:
zap.com.br (which I think is Globo's online classifieds)
Imovelweb.com.br (which is supposedly #1 RE site in Brazil)
and Trovit.com.br (which is a metasearch for Brazilian RE sites)
I am looking for higher-end 2bd/2bth places in Ipanema or Copa, preferably close to Gen. Orsorio or Catalago metros. Not short-term tourist rental stuff.
Open to suggestions on other sources to check out? Really been wanting to use the Brazilian sites to help dodge gringo pricing.
Thx.
Cartman
Guys -
Anyone know any good sources for high-quality, long-term apartment rentals in Copa and Ipanema. I've hit up a lot of online .com.br real estate sites but selection appears quite poor -- can't tell if it is the sites or the market.
Particularly:
zap.com.br (which I think is Globo's online classifieds)
Imovelweb.com.br (which is supposedly #1 RE site in Brazil)
and Trovit.com.br (which is a metasearch for Brazilian RE sites)
I am looking for higher-end 2bd/2bth places in Ipanema or Copa, preferably close to Gen. Orsorio or Catalago metros. Not short-term tourist rental stuff.
Open to suggestions on other sources to check out? Really been wanting to use the Brazilian sites to help dodge gringo pricing.
Thx.
Cartman
My friend.
The long term renting has some potholes. First of all is that the contract is minimum of 30 months, which can be released after first 12 months without penalties.
But what is more problematic is that everybody wants a guarantor (fiador) which has to be brazilian or foreigner who lives permanently in the country and that person has to have a property that will be used as collateral to guarantee the payment of the rent.
Deposit might be a possibility, but almost no-one accepts it.
So I'd say that good luck since it will be long and difficult process to be able to rent anything else than those Zona Sul rip off short term apartments.
Buying is an option....
Guys -
Anyone know any good sources for high-quality, long-term apartment rentals in Copa and Ipanema. I've hit up a lot of online .com.br real estate sites but selection appears quite poor -- can't tell if it is the sites or the market.
Particularly:
zap.com.br (which I think is Globo's online classifieds)
Imovelweb.com.br (which is supposedly #1 RE site in Brazil)
and Trovit.com.br (which is a metasearch for Brazilian RE sites)
I am looking for higher-end 2bd/2bth places in Ipanema or Copa, preferably close to Gen. Orsorio or Catalago metros. Not short-term tourist rental stuff.
Open to suggestions on other sources to check out? Really been wanting to use the Brazilian sites to help dodge gringo pricing.
Thx.
Cartman
Zap is extremely unreliable. I have spent a lot of time on it. My statistics are that at least 2/3 of the advertised apartments are no longer in the market.
I think that the rationale is that online ads are free, whereas ads on the weekly paper are paying. So the paper ads are more reliable.
Perkele's comment are true. One can get an insurance company acting as a fiador, but their prices are outrageous.
Regards.
Eric Cartman
09-04-10, 21:06
Thanks for the feedback. My brazilian business partner is going to be my fiador.
So you are saying just to use the local printed classifieds?
Thanks for the feedback. My brazilian business partner is going to be my fiador.
So you are saying just to use the local printed classifieds?
Yes, the online ads stay forever, because they are free. The printed ads are paying, so the apartements are really on the market.
Thanks El Greco.
Can non US residents/citizens use Vonage? I tried to get a toll free # from them for one of my businesses, but they replied back to me that at this time, only US residents could use that service. I don't have a US mailing address and I don't have the slightest desire to live in the US. Any suggestions as to how to get a US mailing address without going/living there?
Valeu.You can sign-up for a virtual office in the USA which costs about US $50 - US $100 per month. They will take payments in all types of manners.
IF, and only IF You Have MONEY in Brazil is Life Good. For everyone else, it's hand-to-mouth. In Povoados, not only favelas. What is truly revolting is to see a foreigner -- the Ugly American -- with a little cash come to Brazil and discover that he can make poor Brazilian people dance to his tune, and then turn around and despise these same poor people.These individuals are truly despised by their native-countryman when abroad. It could only be pleasing if they were truly losers in their home country, but some successful guys sneak off the plantation.
I am finding Brasil to not be that much cheaper than the USA! And with less economic opportunity. Seems to be another living example of BYOM (ie. Bring Your Own Money.)
hi, i have an associate in brazil who is going to mail me some books. does anyone have any idea what is the best way to do this? she says approx 40 usd and 20 days! i assume she is using ect.
i guess that is the best one can hope for without paying an arm and a leg?
i tried to look at website for dhl it was impossible to understand.
maybe someone else has experience with an express mailing service?
sorry to distract everyone from the carpet/hardwood floors debate! i think of you brits every time i [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on carpet!
tia,
cjwalways, always, always used fed-ex / ups / dhl for any document shipping. it will cost less than us $100 for up to 10 pounds and arrive in 2-days at your front door. no customs or taxation on documents.
I spent 4 months in brasil this year and my budget was about 5-6 thousand dollars per month. That was with very little mongering! Keep in mind that the rate was between 2. 20-2. 40R at that time. (It may have been more expensive because I stayed in Rio the whole time)
I learned the hard way that sometimes dating regular girls, could be much more expensive than just going to Help and paying a girl 200R for the night! Some nights, I was dropping anywhere from 3-500R to go out to normal clubs, with no gurantee of sex afterwards!
The last thing you want to do, is be on a budget in Rio, it is the worst feeling. You are going to see gorgeous women everyday and if you don't have the money to monger at will, it can be very fustrating! I can't speak on BH or Forteleza, but Rio is a very expensive place, especialy now that the rate is so low!And if you want the largest SUV available which is some French car, it will cost you US $1, 700 per month plus about US $1, 000 deposit.
I was out with some friends from another country last night and we were discussing permanent visas. One of them said the level of investment had been increased to R$150,000 so I checked into it today and sure enough, he was right.
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In 2004 it was minimum US$200,000 or equivalent that had to be invested, then it was reduced to minimum US$50,000, but from February 2009 the new level is R$150,000 (Brazilian Reais). The investor must invest in a company that is or will be involved in a “productive economical activity”, that will effectively create employment, make profits and pay any taxes. Brazil is keen to attract genuine investors, and this is the preferred route for many foreigners to achieve residential status, but there is no guarantee how long this level of investment will remain in force.
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Interest how they decided to change it from Dollars to Reais.Not a bad price considering the USA offers 3 - 5 year business visas for US $150,000. And who wants to live there?
R$ 150,000 = US $110,000 or so? Not bad! Not bad at all! The only problem is (a) will the company make any money and (b) will you be paying employee salaries out of pocket?
Originally Posted by Exec Talent
I was out with some friends from another country last night and we were discussing permanent visas. One of them said the level of investment had been increased to R$150,000 so I checked into it today and sure enough, he was right.
Not a bad price considering the USA offers 3 - 5 year business visas for US $150,000. And who wants to live there?
R$ 150,000 = US $110,000 or so? Not bad! Not bad at all! The only problem is (a) will the company make any money and (b) will you be paying employee salaries out of pocket?
Hello,
Could you please post the internet link for information on the permanent visas ?
Kind regards. B.B.
Exec Talent
09-05-10, 14:03
Originally Posted by Exec Talent
I was out with some friends from another country last night and we were discussing permanent visas. One of them said the level of investment had been increased to R$150,000 so I checked into it today and sure enough, he was right.
Hello,
Could you please post the internet link for information on the permanent visas ?
Kind regards. B.B.
http://www.brazilsf.org/brazil_press16.htm
Not sure how well you read Portuguese, so this is the English version which has links to the Portuguese.
I was wondering how strict is Brasil in enforcing immigration violations.
(1.) If a person has been to Brasil several times on a tourist visa and finally overstays his / her tourist visa, what happens. Yes, the fine is R$ 8 per day with a maximum of R$ 800. (a) Do they pay when leaving the country? (b) Do they have a difficult time re-gaining entry with another tourist visa? (c) Does the time they were illegal count against them towards the 180-days per year?
(2.) If a person gets married to a Brazilian, can they stay while waiting for the Marriage Visa to process up to the next 2-years?
Thank You & I can't remember all of the names (ie. Viper, Bubba Boy) but this Brazilian Board has some good and useful information in contrast to many other boards on ISG.
I was wondering how strict is Brasil in enforcing immigration violations.
(1.) If a person has been to Brasil several times on a tourist visa and finally overstays his / her tourist visa, what happens. Yes, the fine is R$ 8 per day with a maximum of R$ 800. (a) Do they pay when leaving the country? (b) Do they have a difficult time re-gaining entry with another tourist visa? (c) Does the time they were illegal count against them towards the 180-days per year?
(2.) If a person gets married to a Brazilian, can they stay while waiting for the Marriage Visa to process up to the next 2-years?
Thank You & I can't remember all of the names (ie. Viper, Bubba Boy) but this Brazilian Board has some good and useful information in contrast to many other boards on ISG.
The wonderful world of Brazilian immigration is as clear as mud. Even if you ask the federal police, they will give you 2 different answers at the same office on the same day!
Basically Brazilian immigration on tourist visas is quite relaxed. There has been many occasions when I have arrived knowing that I only had say 30 days left in the year to stay but was then granted a 90 day visa. Once you are given 90 days you can of course stay you 90 days. The new computer system clearly tells the operator how many more days you have in your allotted year, many immigration operators choose to ignore it and give you 90 days. On the other hand some are pains about it and do not. You cannot rely on it.
Overstaying your visa is no big deal. As you correctly stated R$ 8 per day, max of R$ 800. Living in Brazil I know of many that have done this, many many people. I have picked up the fine once. They told me that I cannot come back for 3 months, this was when they were giving me the fine. I don't think it would start the clock again but who knows. You pay the fine when you return to Brazil. It needs to be paid in the Bank of Brazil which is located through immigration, they escorted me through customs, I went and paid and then came back and went through immigration officially. The guy that took me was cool and we chatted a bit. He just told the immigration officer to give me 90 days, although by my calculation I only had 30 some days left in the year. If you do it twice I believe it becomes more of an issue, the officer giving you the fine can enter in the computer how long you are banned for. I know of a girl that has had done it 3 times and she gets banned for a year now. You passport gets 2 big stamps in it, 1 states the infraction committed ( my case 125 II da lei 6815), and then the other stamp states the time you were allowed to stay, stamped on top of by the time you left. Each stamp takes up about 3/4 of the page. I chose to renew my passport rather than travel with that crap all over it, does not win friends when entering other countries with 2 big stamps from Policia Federal!
If you enter on a tourist visa, you can get married to a Brazilian. The cartario that performs the marriage will make sure your visa is valid, otherwise they are not supposed to allow you to get married. I have heard of cases of people that have overstayed the visa getting married, this would not be a given. Once married you then need to apply for a permanent visa under the basis of marriage, once that is lodged you can stay in Brazil, just need to show your papers when leaving Brazil. Here is the catch, if you leave before your marriage visa is processed, they are under no obligation to let you back into Brazil. Hence you are officially trapped in Brazil until your visa is processed. Having said that, they will usually let you back in - however it is up to the discretion of the immigration officer - it is not a right!
You do know that you can leave Brazil via Foz do iguacu on the local bus into Argentina and you only get off at Brazilian immigration if you choose to do. Ie you can just leave Brazil via foz and get no fine. Fly back home via Argentina. Then when you fly back into Brazil from your home country and immigration officer will look all confused because you will be in the computer as still being in Brazil. You just say, I left Brazil 1 year ago, only stayed a few weeks on that trip, the computer must be wrong. She will call over the supervisor, he will enter in the computer that you left many months ago and you will be free to come and go for another year. I know a guy that does this all the friggin time. When I went to Foz I went across the border several times, didn’t stop once. Alhough on the Argentine side they are strict and stop you all the time, but they are only concerned about their side, couldn’t care less about the Brazilian side.
http://www.brazilsf.org/brazil_press16.htm
Not sure how well you read Portuguese, so this is the English version which has links to the Portuguese.
Thank you exec Talent. I am quite fluent in Portuguese, however legalese language is hard to understand in any country !
The wonderful world of Brazilian immigration is as clear as mud. Even if you ask the federal police, they will give you 2 different answers at the same office on the same day!
Basically Brazilian immigration on tourist visas is quite relaxed. There has been many occasions when I have arrived knowing that I only had say 30 days left in the year to stay but was then granted a 90 day visa. Once you are given 90 days you can of course stay you 90 days. The new computer system clearly tells the operator how many more days you have in your allotted year, many immigration operators choose to ignore it and give you 90 days. On the other hand some are pains about it and do not. You cannot rely on it.
Overstaying your visa is no big deal. As you correctly stated R$ 8 per day, max of R$ 800. Living in Brazil I know of many that have done this, many many people. I have picked up the fine once. They told me that I cannot come back for 3 months, this was when they were giving me the fine. I don't think it would start the clock again but who knows. You pay the fine when you return to Brazil. It needs to be paid in the Bank of Brazil which is located through immigration, they escorted me through customs, I went and paid and then came back and went through immigration officially. The guy that took me was cool and we chatted a bit. He just told the immigration officer to give me 90 days, although by my calculation I only had 30 some days left in the year. If you do it twice I believe it becomes more of an issue, the officer giving you the fine can enter in the computer how long you are banned for. I know of a girl that has had done it 3 times and she gets banned for a year now. You passport gets 2 big stamps in it, 1 states the infraction committed ( my case 125 II da lei 6815), and then the other stamp states the time you were allowed to stay, stamped on top of by the time you left. Each stamp takes up about 3/4 of the page. I chose to renew my passport rather than travel with that crap all over it, does not win friends when entering other countries with 2 big stamps from Policia Federal!
If you enter on a tourist visa, you can get married to a Brazilian. The cartario that performs the marriage will make sure your visa is valid, otherwise they are not supposed to allow you to get married. I have heard of cases of people that have overstayed the visa getting married, this would not be a given. Once married you then need to apply for a permanent visa under the basis of marriage, once that is lodged you can stay in Brazil, just need to show your papers when leaving Brazil. Here is the catch, if you leave before your marriage visa is processed, they are under no obligation to let you back into Brazil. Hence you are officially trapped in Brazil until your visa is processed. Having said that, they will usually let you back in - however it is up to the discretion of the immigration officer - it is not a right!
You do know that you can leave Brazil via Foz do iguacu on the local bus into Argentina and you only get off at Brazilian immigration if you choose to do. Ie you can just leave Brazil via foz and get no fine. Fly back home via Argentina. Then when you fly back into Brazil from your home country and immigration officer will look all confused because you will be in the computer as still being in Brazil. You just say, I left Brazil 1 year ago, only stayed a few weeks on that trip, the computer must be wrong. She will call over the supervisor, he will enter in the computer that you left many months ago and you will be free to come and go for another year. I know a guy that does this all the friggin time. When I went to Foz I went across the border several times, didn’t stop once. Alhough on the Argentine side they are strict and stop you all the time, but they are only concerned about their side, couldn’t care less about the Brazilian side.As always you out-performed yourself. Thank You: And the person I asked this question on behalf of thanks you as well.
Good Work, Bubba Boy.
Visas -
In case it helps, my buddy's technique was to live in Rio for six months then head down to Buenos Aires till he felt it was cool to go back. (Unlike Foz, BsAs is a nice place to live with a sophisticated mongering scene.)
Visas -
In case it helps, my buddy's technique was to live in Rio for six months then head down to Buenos Aires till he felt it was cool to go back. (Unlike Foz, BsAs is a nice place to live with a sophisticated mongering scene.)
In that case someone wil have to stay for another six months in Argentina before going back to Brasil. Remember the 180 days/year allowed in Brasil. It is actually 365 continuous days not calendar year.
In the case of Argentina they cross the border and return same day to Colonia/Uruguay after their first 3 month visa in order to get another 3 month in Argentina. Very easy process.
So you don't need a permanent visa neither for Brasil nor for Argentina.
What happened to the thread about safety, corruption and crime in Brazil? It has disappeared. But the problems have not !
What happened to the thread about safety, corruption and crime in Brazil? It has disappeared. But the problems have not !
Wasn't it just a Rio safety thread? Still here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1507).
El Greco - I don't know the details of how he managed it (never asked him) - he had a rich girl he lived with in Rio and I think another one in BsAs. He was quite a clever bugger! ;) He had a divorced wife back home that was after him so he had plenty of incentive to find ways to stay in South America.
As always you out-performed yourself. Thank You: And the person I asked this question on behalf of thanks you as well.
Good Work, Bubba Boy.
No problem, any more question let me know. This issue comes up a lot for people living in Rio.
Wasn't it just a Rio safety thread? Still here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1507).
Strange, your link works.
However the Rio Safety forum is not listed anymore on the list of Brazil's forums here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=158
Visas.
In case it helps, my buddy's technique was to live in Rio for six months then head down to Buenos Aires till he felt it was cool to go back. (Unlike Foz, BsAs is a nice place to live with a sophisticated mongering scene.)Anyone know. First-hand only, please. If Argentina is charging 'entry fee' on arrival these days?
Anyone know. First-hand only, please. If Argentina is charging 'entry fee' on arrival these days?
Yes, but only for those with passports from countries that require Argentinians to pay a visa application fee. The fee will be the equivalent of what Argentinians have to pay. For Americans it is $130, if I recall correctly, and it is valid for the life of your passport. And yes, I'm speaking from experience.
Yes, but only for those with passports from countries that require Argentinians to pay a visa application fee. The fee will be the equivalent of what Argentinians have to pay. For Americans it is $130, if I recall correctly, and it is valid for the life of your passport. And yes, I'm speaking from experience.Thanks. had a passport renewal, so will need to pony up again.
Anyone know. First-hand only, please. If Argentina is charging 'entry fee' on arrival these days?
I was there earlier this year. I don't recall any entry tax. But I'm not from the US. Argentinian airports are remarkably civilised, fine art and stuff. But GIG still has the sexiest announcements voice worldwide that I've ever heard. ;)
Strange, your link works.
However the Rio Safety forum is not listed anymore on the list of Brazil's forums here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=158
Using your link BB and scrolling down:
I was there earlier this year. I don't recall any entry tax. But I'm not from the US. Argentinian airports are remarkably civilised, fine art and stuff. But GIG still has the sexiest announcements voice worldwide that I've ever heard. ;)
You must be referring to the computerised lady voice, too funny!
Using your link BB and scrolling down:
Thank you for your help Christopherd.
I have found what happened.
In my user Control Panel, I had the option "Default Thread Age Cut Off" selected for not showing forums without activity in the last month. Since the Rio Crime & Safety forum had no posts in the past few months, it did not show. With the option "show all forums" it is now back.
Kind regards.
You must be referring to the computerised lady voice, too funny!
Computerised? Why do you say that voice is computerised? That voice has been there for over 30 years. Her name is Iris Lettieri. I remember her voice as a younger woman, now she still sounds good but I can hear the aging.
John Cricket
09-09-10, 05:33
Computerised? Why do you say that voice is computerised? That voice has been there for over 30 years. Her name is Iris Lettieri. I remember her voice as a younger woman, now she still sounds good but I can hear the aging.And she sounds like she just had an orgasm when she anounces your plane.
She has been computerized, those, in the sense that her words are all recorded and remixed by a computer these days.
Here's what Iris looked like back in her salad days...
http://blogln.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-voz
And what she looks like now:
http://1.bp.********.com/_nkJ608QDGLg/Sdkw5O7pwKI/AAAAAAAAACw/TWqgHjLn7dA/s1600-h/iris_aeroporto_rep_p.jpg
Man you learn something everyday, that is so cool that it is actually a famous person doing the voice over.
Hey I didn't say she doesn't sound hot, just that it is weird how it is prerecorderd and then spliced together by a perhistoric sound system.
Very cool, I will have to put that in the bb guide!
Can a foreigner rent a mail box from Correios?
Albert Punter
09-12-10, 02:54
Anyone know. First-hand only, please. If Argentina is charging 'entry fee' on arrival these days?
No entrey fee in Argentina.
Only country in the area charging for entry is Chile, but only to US, Canada, Mexico and Australia citizens, due to reciprocity.
Simpleminded
09-13-10, 22:00
My 5 year brazillian tourist visa is expiring on February 13, 2011. I was planning on taking a trip around January 15-24 , 2011. Should I get a new visa before my trip or do I have nothing to worry about? I thought there was some rule about having 6 months left on your visa when you enter Brazil. Has anyone run into this situation?
My 5 year brazillian tourist visa is expiring on February 13, 2011. I was planning on taking a trip around January 15-24 , 2011. Should I get a new visa before my trip or do I have nothing to worry about? I thought there was some rule about having 6 months left on your visa when you enter Brazil. Has anyone run into this situation?
IMHO You will get an entry permit up to February 13, 2011.
Make sure to have a return ticket prior of that date in case you have to show them that you do not intend to overstay.
Best to call a Brasilian consulate to verify though.
No entrey fee in Argentina.
Only country in the area charging for entry is Chile, but only to US, Canada, Mexico and Australia citizens, due to reciprocity.
You are wrong. As I noted below, there is a one time fee for Americans and for citizens of any other country that requires a fee from Argentinians, probably the same ones you mention above. I know there is such a fee because I had to pay it and have a receipt pasted in my passport.
Simpleminded
09-14-10, 22:07
IMHO You will get an entry permit up to February 13, 2011.
Make sure to have a return ticket prior of that date in case you have to show them that you do not intend to overstay.
Best to call a Brasilian consulate to verify though.Thanks El Greco. I don't think they give you your return ticket these days with electronic tickets. Usually you just have your itinerary and confirmation number and get your return ticket on your way out of Brazil.
I better ask the consulate just in case.
Albert Punter
09-15-10, 02:59
Please refer to http://argentina.usembassy.gov/warden_messages/airport-entry-fee--december-11-2009.html
You are wrong. As I noted below, there is a one time fee for Americans and for citizens of any other country that requires a fee from Argentinians, probably the same ones you mention above. I know there is such a fee because I had to pay it and have a receipt pasted in my passport.
Houston Player
09-15-10, 06:24
Simpleminded,
You will not have any problems. Your visa is good until it is expired, even in an expired passport as long as you have a new valid passport.
You need 6 months until expiration of your passport in order to be issued a new visa in that passport.
It is common for people to have to carry two passports when their visa is still good in an expired passport.
I'm sure this question has been asked. I'm looking for Brazilian business partners as my Portuguese is terrible. Is it easy to incorporate with others if I am a foreigner. I'm guessing Sao Paulo is the best city for business are the costs comparable to America or less. Thanks for the help.
Exec Talent
01-22-11, 20:29
I'm sure this question has been asked. I'm looking for Brazilian business partners as my Portuguese is terrible. Is it easy to incorporate with others if I am a foreigner. I'm guessing Sao Paulo is the best city for business are the costs comparable to America or less. Thanks for the help.Without speaking Portuguese, you might as well just give them your wallet. Brazilians are famous for trying to get over and I cannot tell you how many Brazilian businessmen have told me how they lost money to former friends or business partners.
Without speaking Portuguese, you might as well just give them your wallet. Brazilians are famous for trying to get over and I cannot tell you how many Brazilian businessmen have told me how they lost money to former friends or business partners.100% correct. You are crazy to try something like this. You need to go to Brazil, live there for a while, learn a lot, get fluent in Portuguese, expose yourself to the way business is done, then think about it. If you are simply looking for a partner to fulfill the requirement for any Brazilian social contract, then I suggest you go with a law firm or organization suited to do this for you. Don't forget that Brazil is not cheap. Quite the opposite.
Exec Talent
04-26-11, 00:01
So I am out with a friend and discussing an upcoming meeting with an important government official. He tries to reassure me that everything will be ok by saying. Don't worry, he has sex just like every other man. In the US we might say he puts his pants on the same way as every other man. It is funny how sex seems to always work its way into most Brazilian conversations and situations.
Always, always, always used Fed-Ex / UPS / DHL for any document shipping. It will cost less than US $100 for up to 10 pounds and arrive in 2-days at your front door. No customs or taxation on documents.How about mailing into brasil from the US? I looked at ups, fedex, and usps and all have the same requirement of declaring and that it new not used.
Does anyone know about shipping a car into Brasil? It use to be only new cars but now supposedly you can ship a used car that you've owned for x number of years. I know a new car will get taxed on something like 125%
Exec Talent
08-18-11, 16:27
So I am out with a girl and wanting to assure her I mean her no harm, I tell her not to worry I am a perfect Cozinheiro. Now I have to prove it.
I have a recipe which calls for buttermilk. Leitelho seems to be the Portuguese translation, but so far, I have not had any luck finding it. Any suggestions from someone who has actually bought or seen it in Rio would be greatly appreciated. Being pretty good with Google, I did find an article in Portuguese on how to make it. However, I would rather buy it than make it if possible.
So I am out with a girl and wanting to assure her I mean her no harm, I tell her not to worry I am a perfect Cozinheiro. Now I have to prove it.
I have a recipe which calls for buttermilk. Leitelho seems to be the Portuguese translation, but so far, I have not had any luck finding it. Any suggestions from someone who has actually bought or seen it in Rio would be greatly appreciated. Being pretty good with Google, I did find an article in Portuguese on how to make it. However, I would rather buy it than make it if possible.Buttermilk = Leitelho or Leite de Manteiga.
I'm sorry buddy, you won't find this anywhere. Buttermilk isn't produced in Brazil. Either you make it or go for a different recipe. AFAIK, the man made one tastes is bit different than the original one but the ending result (recipe) seems to be same.
Member #3439
08-18-11, 19:06
By the way, Victoria Secret lotion can do magic in Brazil. I had a girl from Karla models activated my R$15 sim card with her CPF number for a VC lotion as a gift in return.Okay, I have never used a SIM card in BR, but want to next time. Is it true that you have to have a CPF number to get it activated? That would be a PITA!
Also translates to leite ácido semidesnatado, soro do leite coalhado or leite desnatado.
I've run into the same problem trying to find ingredients. Gave up fancy cooking, after I had to got to Centro to find spices.
Simple Buttermilk Substitute: Lemon and Milk: In a 1-cup measuring cup, add 1 Tablespoon of fresh lemon juice. Top the lemon juice with skim, low fat or whole milk. Stir and let sit for two minutes. Voilà! After two minutes, your milk is both acidic and curdled. Bon Appetit
Houston Player
08-18-11, 19:15
I disagree. Leite desnatado is no fat or skimmed milk not butter milk.
I disagree. Leite desnatado is no fat or skimmed milk not butter milk.Found that translation at:
http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/buttermilk
Got that link from:
http://www.lexilogos.com/english/portuguese_dictionary.htm
Okay, I have never used a SIM card in BR, but want to next time. Is it true that you have to have a CPF number to get it activated? That would be a PITA!If you buy the sim card at a TIM store, just bring your passport and they will use your passport number. If you buy the card from a third party, other TIM directly then you will need a CPF number.
I believe the other carriers require a CPF number. TIM is your best shot, unless you know someone that will activate it with their CPF number.
Found that translation at:
http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/buttermilk
Got that link from:
http://www.lexilogos.com/english/portuguese_dictionary.htmI'm sorry that link's wrong.
Leite Desnatado = Skim Milk.
Under the brazilian legislation a milk can be called Desnatado if the fat content is 0. 3% or less.
Des = without.
Nata = cream / faty content of the milk.
Eg.
Desavisado = without warning.
Desitratado = unhydrate.
Desnutrido = malnourished
Found that translation at:
http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/buttermilk
Got that link from:
http://www.lexilogos.com/english/portuguese_dictionary.htmVery nice links indeed. I was not aware of them.
FYI Lexilogos is a combination of two Greek words.
LEXIcon = dictionary and LOGOS = speach. Nice combination they did.
I'm sorry that link's wrong.
Leite Desnatado = Skim Milk.Automatic translators can get you in trouble LOL. But seriously, how do you need to translate that? It's easy enough to figure, just walking round a supermarket and guessing at the translation, surely?
What I think maybe happens when many people 'learn' Brasilian Porto back home is that they get to Brasil and their heads are inside a little Pimsleur bubble that everything has to filter through, and of course, lots of words aren't there. But if you listen and look intently, watching people, using common sense, and experimenting, you learn the everyday stuff that you need to know pretty damn quick.
One year I got a Brasilian Porto teacher from the local Uni to give me some lessons in cool slang. Obviously it had changed a lot in the few years since she had lived in Brasil. My friends in Rio had a field day pointing out how dated the expressions were.
I'd credit my useful Knowledge of Porto as from three sources in the following order:
I) living there for a few months at a time, listening, learning, asking, practicing.
Ii) buying a big bl*dy up-to-date dictionary from a good bookstore in Rio, which I keep with a book of verb conjugations in the apartment, just so I can practice something new each day.
Iii) PIMS 1-3. I'm sure it works for some people, and it's the best language course I've come across, but it's like wading through a book on Microsoft Windows only to find that the problem with your mate's computer wasn't covered. Great for showing off useless 'conversational' skills though. I've met similar people practicing their English on me. Going through a list of boring subjects that they just happen to be fluent in. That to me isn' t communication.
Advanced language skills are not needed to speak to p4ps, just ordinary cr*p. Girls higher up the food chain, half of them speak and enjoy practicing their English anyway (this is ok, because I can pretend I don't understand sfa until they talk sh*te to their friends in front of me, then I can surprise them by calling their hand). Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a degree in Porto behind me. But my current gf has that and has lived in the UK for three years working as a translator, and still she can't keep up if I talk quickly or we go to a play or comedy show. I like her for her Brasilian-ness. But I prefer Brasilian chicks that speak zilch English, at least for f*cking! Those are the ones I've had the most success with as well. A relationship based too much on limited language skills can detract from physical understanding. You don't need a dictionary to know if she's pleased to see you. .
I've maybe laboured the point too much. Some Brasililan Porto is essential to get the best out of any visit to Brasil I believe. Learning languages doesn't come naturally to me. I'd never be able to discuss the finer points of my professional interests in Porto, no matter how much I studied. The rest is all relative, and for me that means book learning (or tapes) are the emergency back-up, not the main course. Hope I haven't offended anyone, and I admire those people who can speak with accuracy getting the subjunctive pluperfect tenses correct with all the inflections or whatever, good on you! For me it's just means to an end that I can do quicker in my own gutter fashion, so I'm not about to change in a hurry.
I really need someones help. I opened a restaurant in Rio and in the first year of operation, the accountant put me in the lucro presumido (presumed tax) instead of the simple tax system. I have changed to the simple tax system now, but only after I got a tax bill of 250, 000R. To put this in perspective, my tax bill under the simple tax system would of been 50, 000R for the first year. I am paying monthly payments, but I have heard there is an office I can go to dispute tax, etc. I have talked to my lawyer and he is useless. Any info I would be eternally grateful including any tax lawyer info, advise, who or where to go. Thank you very much!
Viper10
Exec Talent
10-15-11, 17:43
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Lifestyle/Story/STIStory_723232.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUZSzlvNpJ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC2NUMTOBUw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nX-xiFj6uc&NR=1
I recently was at the corporate offices of one the world's largest corporations. The female project manager with whom I interacted seemed to have no other talent other than fliriting with her male co-workers. I found her annoying and her behavior insulting. It never occurred to me that she might have learned to manipulate men from a Gisele Bundchen Brazilian commercial.
Eric Cartman
10-15-11, 18:52
I really need someones help. I opened a restaurant in Rio and in the first year of operation, the accountant put me in the lucro presumido (presumed tax) instead of the simple tax system. I have changed to the simple tax system now, but only after I got a tax bill of 250, 000R. To put this in perspective, my tax bill under the simple tax system would of been 50, 000R for the first year. I am paying monthly payments, but I have heard there is an office I can go to dispute tax, etc. I have talked to my lawyer and he is useless. Any info I would be eternally grateful including any tax lawyer info, advise, who or where to go. Thank you very much!
Viper10Any lawyer who doesn't suck will cost you a lot of money, so be prepared to spend R$25K. R$50K to fix your problem. It could be less but just saying.
VRBG is a big corporate attorney in Centro (vrbg. Com. Br) with a tax expert.
Opening a restaurant and not being a SIMPLES business is a terrible idea. You got really bad advice.
Hey guys,
Little question please.
I'm french and I'd like to spend some months in Brazil.
But I've read that I just can stay 3 months with a tourist visa (I'm not going to work in Brazil).
So, I'd like to know if I stay there 3 months with my tourist visa and then I get out from Brazil going for exemple some days to Argentina, can I come back then Brazil for 3 months and have a new tourist visa?
Thank you and sorry for my english.
Poucolouco
11-07-11, 20:22
Hey guys,
Little question please.
I'm french and I'd like to spend some months in Brazil.
But I've read that I just can stay 3 months with a tourist visa (I'm not going to work in Brazil).
So, I'd like to know if I stay there 3 months with my tourist visa and then I get out from Brazil going for exemple some days to Argentina, can I come back then Brazil for 3 months and have a new tourist visa?
Thank you and sorry for my english.You are correct. Be sure to get your passport stamped for entry and exit (sometimes the frontier police skip this step.) You can stay a maximum of 60 days per visit and 120 days total in any 12-month period.
You are correct. Be sure to get your passport stamped for entry and exit (sometimes the frontier police skip this step.) You can stay a maximum of 60 days per visit and 120 days total in any 12-month period.Thank you for your answer Poucolouco.
But if I understand well, I just can stay 120 days maximum in any 12 months period?
So it means that if I stay 4 months and then for exemple I go to France I'll have to wait 8 month to be able to stay 4 months again in Brazil?
Or since I go out for Brazil and make my passeport stamped for exit and entry I can directly go back to Brazil for 4 months?
Sorry again for my english.
Hey guys,
Little question please.
I'm french and I'd like to spend some months in Brazil.
But I've read that I just can stay 3 months with a tourist visa (I'm not going to work in Brazil).
So, I'd like to know if I stay there 3 months with my tourist visa and then I get out from Brazil going for exemple some days to Argentina, can I come back then Brazil for 3 months and have a new tourist visa?
Thank you and sorry for my english.
For europeans:
When you enter Brazil you'll get a permit to stay for 3 months. You can extend these 3 months with another 3 months if you visit Polícia Federal (no need to cross the border). A maximum stay of 6 months for every 12 months-period.
Exec Talent
11-08-11, 07:52
You can stay a maximum of 60 days per visit and 120 days total in any 12-month period.Sperto gave you the correct information which is 180 days which you also can find (in French) on the Brazilian Consulate's website.
http://www.cgbresil.org/index.php/fr/informations/visa-touristique/359
Exec Talent
11-08-11, 07:54
You can stay a maximum of 60 days per visit and 120 days total in any 12-month period.Sperto gave you the correct information which is 90/180 days which you also can find (in French) on the Brazilian Consulate's website.
http://www.cgbresil.org/index.php/fr/informations/visa-touristique/359
Thank you very much guys.
Poucolouco
11-08-11, 19:38
Thank you for your answer Poucolouco.
But if I understand well, I just can stay 120 days maximum in any 12 months period?
So it means that if I stay 4 months and then for exemple I go to France I'll have to wait 8 month to be able to stay 4 months again in Brazil?
Or since I go out for Brazil and make my passeport stamped for exit and entry I can directly go back to Brazil for 4 months?
Sorry again for my english.Excuse me, I misstated 60/120 when it should have been 90/180. Sperto is correct. Also you don't need to leave the country but only go to the federal police and request an extension of your stay. They are located in the far end of GIG airport.
If you stay 4 months you would still have 60 days remaining on your 180 day maximum per year.
Okay, I have never used a SIM card in BR, but want to next time. Is it true that you have to have a CPF number to get it activated? That would be a PITA!I've always used my passport (a photocopy. At times) and to date, I don't think there is a carrier I haven't purchase a sim card from in multiple Brazilian states.
Erectus Indicus
12-19-11, 21:58
I've always used my passport (a photocopy. At times) and to date, I don't think there is a carrier I haven't purchase a sim card from in multiple Brazilian states.Second that (just posted in another thread that it is possible). If you want to do this in Rio, here's what I did : Go to Rio Sul Shopping, go two levels up to the TIM store, get a ticket and you will get someone who will check and enter your details into their CRM system and then activate your SIM card for you. If you use a smartphone, they will also tell you how to get 3G activated (3G service is a bit patchy, not like 3 months ago when it was quite good). Then you pay at the counter at the back on the store, can also top up there.
I am sure this is also possible at Claro or any of the other operators.
Exec Talent
03-17-13, 17:43
was walking along avenida atlântica in copacabana around 3:00 am this morning and observed them unloading the bikes for the world bike tour. there was 12+ trailer trucks and literally over a thousand+ brand new mulit-speed bikes lined up along barriers on both sides of the avenida. workers were testing and securing them. quite an impressive sight. the idea behind wbt is to encourage the use of bicycles to minimize traffic and pollution.
http://www.worldbiketour.net/
The idea behind WBT is to encourage the use of bicycles to minimize traffic and pollution.
A very good initiative to encourage the use of bikes. I've been using my mountainbike in Rio a lot the last 3 months. An excellent way to get around in Rio. Also it's very quick, Pedra do Leme to posto 6 is about 7minutes. Going down a favela is superquick but you need very good brakes unless you want to smash into a wall or a moto-taxi.
They have good bicycle paths all the way from Santos Dumont-Flamengo-Botafogo-Urca-Leme-Copacabana-Ipanema-Leblon-Lagoa. However they really need to construct a lot more bicycle paths.
The problems when biking in Rio are several:
- It can be risky using your bike on the streets among cars, taxis and buses.
- People don't respect the rules and don't use common sense when riding bikes.
- Many people on bikes are a real danger as they hardly can ride them, they shift lanes as they like and don't look where they are going. Specially the ones on the free orange Itaú bikes are totally worthless on riding.
- The people on skateboard are dangerous as many of them are just amateurs and they think they own the bicycle paths.
Poucolouco
03-18-13, 23:41
If you get an occasional craving for Mexican cuisine, forget Balcony Bar. There are several good quality Mexican restaurants available. The newest is Guacamole restaurant on rua Jardim Botanica, about 1. 5 Km from termas Solarium. The ambiance at Guacamole is authentic with a full menu of Yucatan cuisine. A Mariachi band entertains on Weekend nights (cover R$10 / person.) The food at Guacamole surpasses Rota 66, Blue Agave, and Azteka restaurants in Ipanema. Rota 66 advertises Tex-Mex but to me it is a poor excuse for either cuisine. Blue Agave serves the best tacos and good Margaritas but it is quite small and the ambience is more like a sports bar. Blue Agave is a good place to just hang out in the afternoon if you are in Ipanema.
Guacamole: rua Jardim Botânico. 129 – Jardim Botânico.
http://guacamolemex.com.br/site/
Azteka: rua Visconde de Pirajá.156 – Ipanema.
http://www.azteka-rio.com/english.html
Blue Agave: rua Vinícius de Moraes. 68. Ipanema.
http://www.todorio.com/rio/ipanema/blueagave
Route 66: rua. 47. Ipanema.
http://www.restauranterota66.com.br/Rota66_home.aspx
Bom apetite
Eric Cartman
03-22-13, 02:11
Thanks for the great list Pouco.
I went to Guacamole. It's OK. It's no Baja Fresh or La Salsa, but if you absolutely have to have Mexican food in Rio, it's alright.
If you get an occasional craving for Mexican cuisine, forget Balcony Bar. There are several good quality Mexican restaurants available. The newest is Guacamole restaurant on rua Jardim Botanica, about 1. 5 Km from termas Solarium. The ambiance at Guacamole is authentic with a full menu of Yucatan cuisine. A Mariachi band entertains on Weekend nights (cover R$10 / person.) The food at Guacamole surpasses Rota 66, Blue Agave, and Azteka restaurants in Ipanema. Rota 66 advertises Tex-Mex but to me it is a poor excuse for either cuisine. Blue Agave serves the best tacos and good Margaritas but it is quite small and the ambience is more like a sports bar. Blue Agave is a good place to just hang out in the afternoon if you are in Ipanema.
Guacamole: rua Jardim Botânico. 129 – Jardim Botânico.
http://guacamolemex.com.br/site/
Azteka: rua Visconde de Pirajá.156 – Ipanema.
http://www.azteka-rio.com/english.html
Blue Agave: rua Vinícius de Moraes. 68. Ipanema.
http://www.todorio.com/rio/ipanema/blueagave
Route 66: rua. 47. Ipanema.
http://www.restauranterota66.com.br/Rota66_home.aspx
Bom apetite
Poucolouco
04-15-13, 23:12
Rio has realized that it is one of the ten dirtiest cities in the world. To address this situation, beginning in July the City Government will fine anyone caught littering the city. For small volumes, equal or lesser size to that of a soda or beer can, the fine will be R$ 157. Up to one cubic meter, the value rises to R$ 392. Above that, the fine is R$ 980.
This ordinance will be enforced by agents of municipal guards, employees of COMLURB and Policia Militar who will have a handheld computer, in which they will annotate the violation and fine, by noting the of CPF of whoever is caught. The equipment will have a printer to provide some sort of proof of punishment. Those who refuse to give information to avoid being fined may be forwarded to a police station.
http://g1.globo.com/bom-dia-brasil/noticia/2013/04/jogar-lixo-nas-ruas-do-rio-pode-render-multa-de-r-157-ate-r-980.html
Rio has realized that it is one of the ten dirtiest cities in the world. To address this situation, beginning in July the City Government will fine anyone caught littering the city. For small volumes, equal or lesser size to that of a soda or beer can, the fine will be R$ 157. Up to one cubic meter, the value rises to R$ 392. Above that, the fine is R$ 980.
Excellent! The brazilians need to learn not to litter. Many people are just hopeless. They can be standing 1 metre from a trash bin and still throw litter on the ground. A very disturbing behaviour.
Exec Talent
04-16-13, 13:24
Excellent! The brazilians need to learn not to litter. Many people are just hopeless. They can be standing 1 metre from a trash bin and still throw litter on the ground. A very disturbing behaviour.I always thought it was an effort to provide employment for their fellow man (and woman).
Poucolouco
04-16-13, 14:10
Excellent! The brazilians need to learn not to litter. Many people are just hopeless. They can be standing 1 metre from a trash bin and still throw litter on the ground. A very disturbing behaviour.Many Brasilians are oblivious to the fact that their littering is a crude and anti-social behavior. They have the attitude that there is no problem tossing litter on the sidewalk because the street sweepers will pick it up. Yesterday, several of us were watching a 10-inch black rat running back and forth under the parked cars on Santa Clara. Just then, the porteiro from a neigboring apartment building waked out, eating a sandwich. He took a final bite and threw the wrapping paper in the street. He couldn't make the mental connection that litter just might contribute to the propagation of rats, roaches and other vermin.
Exec Talent
04-16-13, 16:21
There was a similar problem in the US. Some may remember Lady Bird Johnson and the Keep America Beautiful campaign. Commercials showed a littered landscape and an American Indian shedding a tear. In my neighborhood in Rio I have worked to educate the little kids to the point that now they will yell at other kids when they see them littering.
There is a good chance that if the word gets out that the police are enforcing anti-littering laws it will work. When is the last time you saw someone smoking indoors?
Exec Talent
06-07-13, 20:01
I was getting my hair cut in Copacabana by a guy who has cut it for the last five years and noticed the salon was pretty empty. He told me that business has been way off because there are no more GDPs in Copa. This is not a salon near the former Help or even the Prado Junior club area. Since there are no gringos, there are no girls. He thinks many have left the business or are in Europe.
Eric Cartman
06-13-13, 01:41
I was getting my hair cut in Copacabana by a guy who has cut it for the last five years and noticed the salon was pretty empty. He told me that business has been way off because there are no more GDPs in Copa. This is not a salon near the former Help or even the Prado Junior club area. Since there are no gringos, there are no girls. He thinks many have left the business or are in Europe.Hot girls follow the money. The money is not in RJ. It is, at best, in SP in Brasil at present.
Tim Sellers
06-23-13, 04:32
Any thoughts / suggestions / advice on a business marriage for a permanent visa?
Exec Talent
06-24-13, 06:49
Any thoughts / suggestions / advice on a business marriage for a permanent visa?I know a GDP who married an Italian for 5,000 Euro. Trust me, if social visits were part of the deal, he made out like a bandit.
She was a very cool girl and level-headed. I am sure that she followed through on her part of the deal. Not so sure I would trust just anyone.
Choose wisely.
I know a girl from Russia, she married with a Brazilian to get the passaport apparently they need to live together in the beggining because administration make investigation to verify the story.
But I don't know if she gived money or what is the deal between them.
Exec Talent
08-30-13, 10:12
One of the best articles on how Batista's financial empire collapsed.
http://news.yahoo.com/insight-batistas-brazilian-empire-sunk-more-hubris-050621169--finance.html
Will soon arrive in Rio and need to get me a prepaid SIM card, which company has the best signal?
What about the gyms in Copacabana, Ipanema and nearby, any suggestions?
Will soon arrive in Rio and need to get me a prepaid SIM card, which company has the best signal?
What about the gyms in Copacabana, Ipanema and nearby, any suggestions?TIM.
Arpoador outside gym, Flintstone style.
Will soon arrive in Rio and need to get me a prepaid SIM card, which company has the best signalI don't think it really matters. Cell phone service in Brazil is not good. Last year, Brazilian regulators imposed an 11 day ban on cellular service providers for the bad service they provided. TIM, Oi, and Claro were unable to sign up new customers. TIM had the most complaints. Vivo escaped by not being worst anywhere. The government made them promise to invest more in infrastructure, and improve service, but, per The Economist, it may not be enough. In a years time, I don't believe much progress has been made. I call a friend who uses TIM. Calling from the US, I have to make several attempts before the call connects. Dropped calls are frequent. I've had the same experience with Oi and Claro. The cell networks do not have enough capacity to handle all the calls, sms, and internet access requests.
http://www.economist.com/node/21560271
More insight on this at Bloomberg.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-27/can-a-ban-save-brazil-s-cell-phone-service-.html
Cell Service in Rio has gotten worse. Calling from the US, within the last 10 days. I'm unable to complete the call. Most times it rings and I get the leave a message prompt. Lately it just rings and then disconnects. I'm also unable to send text. I'm calling TIM number.
Poucolouco
10-24-13, 17:44
Cell Service in Rio has gotten worse. Calling from the US, within the last 10 days. I'm unable to complete the call. Most times it rings and I get the leave a message prompt. Lately it just rings and then disconnects. I'm also unable to send text. I'm calling TIM number.TIM really sucks. I have gotten Emergency Use Only message on my cell phone frequently in the past week. The only way you can get a live person to discuss service with is go to the TIM Store at Rio Sul.
Exec Talent
11-08-13, 12:30
As if the public didn't have enough negative images of Rio now a TV show, White Collar, detailed Rio GDPs drugging Johns with Boa Noite Cinderela in its storyline last night. The main character goes undercover to a psychiatrist who drugs him to find out why he is really there. His friend describes how GDPs use the drug to obtain information to rob Johns who then don't remember what happened the next day.
AltoBomGosto
11-09-13, 02:45
Cell Service in Rio has gotten worse. Calling from the US, within the last 10 days. I'm unable to complete the call. Most times it rings and I get the leave a message prompt. Lately it just rings and then disconnects. I'm also unable to send text. I'm calling TIM number.All the same shit all over Brazil.
It's the most expensive service for the worst service of the entire world!
To have a smatphone down here is only hassle!
Mr Enternational
11-09-13, 04:14
All the same shit all over Brazil.
It's the most expensive service for the worst service of the entire world!
To have a smatphone down here is only hassle!I was thinking that shit the other day. Now my USA T-mobile smartphone is cheaper to use roaming in Brazil (with free data) than a local cell phone in Brazil is.
I was thinking that shit the other day. Now my USA T-mobile smartphone is cheaper to use roaming in Brazil (with free data) than a local cell phone in Brazil is.Right but the local carrier that you go through, what are their fees? Also a local brazil phone can call you but must pay long distance, correct? Nice. 20 cents a minute, how much is a local pay by use phone now? 1 real a minute?
I'm also on the t-mobile network. It's using Wi-fi not actually roaming. From Tmo website: "Calls over Wi-Fi are $.20 / min; texts over Wi-Fi are $.20 each (no charge for Wi-Fi calls or texts to US)." When not in Wi-Fi range, I believe it reverts back to actual roaming and thus."talking: $3. 59 per minute. Roaming charges do not include local tolls or long distance charges." I'm not in Brazil nor the US right now. I'm still having difficulty connecting to a TIM number in Rio. And when it connects, lots of dropped calls. Those of you with a smartphone, and not on T-mobile, can find an app, like Skype, to makes free calls via Wi-Fi.
http://www.t-mobile.com/International/RoamingOverview.aspx?tp=Inl_Tab_RoamWorldwide
Sony PlayStation 4 will cost $399 in US, $1, 800USD in Brazil. (Holy Frack!) 63 percent of retail price of R$3, 999 in Brazil, comes from import taxes and fees."Sony Computer Entertainment America, (SCEA,) will continue to discuss the import taxes with government agencies as it seeks to bring down the PS4's price. SCEA is looking ahead to "the opportunity" of manufacturing the console locally which would significantly reduce the price, although he didn't note when that would or could happen. SCEA began production of PS3 units in the country in May of this year, some three years after the console was launched there at a similarly wallet-breaking price." PS3 was launched on 11/17/2006. PS3 is priced at $R1099 or $474USD at Lojas Americanas. It will cost you $200USD or $R462 at a US Best Buy store.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/10/22/ps4-so-expensive-in-brazil-due-to-import-taxes-says-sony/
Poucolouco
11-11-13, 19:25
Sony PlayStation 4 will cost $399 in US, $1, 800USD in Brazil. (Holy Frack!) 63 percent of retail price of R$3, 999 in Brazil, comes from import taxes and fees."Sony Computer Entertainment America, (SCEA,) will continue to discuss the import taxes with government agencies as it seeks to bring down the PS4's price. SCEA is looking ahead to "the opportunity" of manufacturing the console locally which would significantly reduce the price, although he didn't note when that would or could happen. SCEA began production of PS3 units in the country in May of this year, some three years after the console was launched there at a similarly wallet-breaking price." PS3 was launched on 11/17/2006. PS3 is priced at $R1099 or $474USD at Lojas Americanas. It will cost you $200USD or $R462 at a US Best Buy store.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/10/22/ps4-so-expensive-in-brazil-due-to-import-taxes-says-sony/If SCEA wants to manufacture it locally they would have to manufacture all the components in Brasil as well. Brasil does not understand trade agreements.
Sony PlayStation 4 will cost $399 in US, $1, 800USD in Brazil. (Holy Frack!) 63 percent of retail price of R$3, 999 in Brazil, comes from import taxes and fees."Sony Computer Entertainment America, (SCEA,) will continue to discuss the import taxes with government agencies as it seeks to bring down the PS4's price. SCEA is looking ahead to "the opportunity" of manufacturing the console locally which would significantly reduce the price, although he didn't note when that would or could happen. SCEA began production of PS3 units in the country in May of this year, some three years after the console was launched there at a similarly wallet-breaking price." PS3 was launched on 11/17/2006. PS3 is priced at $R1099 or $474USD at Lojas Americanas. It will cost you $200USD or $R462 at a US Best Buy store.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/10/22/ps4-so-expensive-in-brazil-due-to-import-taxes-says-sony/Since the PS4 will be under the $500 bucks "gift tax" they try to hit you with at the airport, this seems like a great way to make some extra cash. Bring a PS4 to Rio and sell it for 600 dollars! Make a quick 200US. That would pay for two nights at an apartment or terma run!
Exec Talent
11-11-13, 19:55
Since the PS4 will be under the $500 bucks "gift tax" they try to hit you with at the airport, this seems like a great way to make some extra cash. Bring a PS4 to Rio and sell it for 600 dollars! Make a quick 200US. That would pay for two nights at an apartment or terma run!Yeah, that might work in theory, but just try it in practice.
Brazilians will tell you hey could you bring.
Then when you do they no longer want or can afford it. Something always comes up. There must not be one healthy mother in Brazil.
Also, Brazilians pay for everything (and I mean everything) in multiple payments. 3,4. 12. They will tell you they will pay you the rest later and then never do.
Since the PS4 will be under the $500 bucks "gift tax" they try to hit you with at the airport, this seems like a great way to make some extra cash. Bring a PS4 to Rio and sell it for 600 dollars! Make a quick 200US. That would pay for two nights at an apartment or terma run!This is easier said than done. Normal Brazilians do not have all the funds in one shot, that's why most stores offer payment plans across many monthly payments. So unless you have the item pre-sold with the cash in hand with a contact there. Forget it.
Mr Enternational
11-12-13, 02:27
This is easier said than done. Normal Brazilians do not have all the funds in one shot, that's why most stores offer payment plans across many monthly payments. So unless you have the item pre-sold with the cash in hand with a contact there. Forget it.LOL. Normal North Americans don't have all the funds in one shot either. That is why our country is run on credit. So if the bringer is smart, then he will collect the money first and bring the item later. Unless it is someone he already knows and is sure he is good for the money. A wingman of mine used to bring Polaroid film for the guy who took pictures in front of Help. Then I used to bring Victoria Secret products for my girlfriend's aunt who owned a salon.
Yeah, that might work in theory, but just try it in practice.
Brazilians will tell you hey could you bring.
Then when you do they no longer want or can afford it. Something always comes up. There must not be one healthy mother in Brazil.
Also, Brazilians pay for everything (and I mean everything) in multiple payments. 3,4. 12. They will tell you they will pay you the rest later and then never do.Pussy Payment plans are cool with me. GDP wants a PS4 for her kid? Well that equals 5 TLNs with me during my 2 week vacation! I have had friends of mine do similar barter system transactions before. Everything from VS lotion to electronics. They tell the girl I will give it to you at the END of my trip, after you have fulfilled the negotiated number of evenings with me.
The key to the barter system is two things.
1) Never give in before terms are met. No matter how many "Sick mother, dying child" stories you hear. They don't get a fucking thing until they fulfill the agreement. (It also helps to let them know there are other garotas who are dying to have the same deal)
2) Don't let them know your date of departure. They will try to fuck you once during the trip and then arrange to see you on your last night, in hopes they can convince you to give them the items anyway. If she hasn't fulfilled the amount of sessions your supposed to have, take off and leave. Send her a email once you get back to the states and let her know you will see her on the next trip and she can square up then.
Mr Enternational
11-12-13, 03:11
Pussy Payment plans are cool with me. GDP wants a PS4 for her kid? Well that equals 5 TLNs with me during my 2 week vacation! I have had friends of mine do similar barter system transactions before. Everything from VS lotion to electronics. They tell the girl I will give it to you at the END of my trip, after you have fulfilled the negotiated number of evenings with me.Who wants to pay to fuck the same girl 5 times in the same trip? Seems smarter to just get a girlfriend. When I am hardcore mongering, I do it for the variety. No reason to have to pay for a steady.
Who wants to pay to fuck the same girl 5 times in the same trip? Seems smarter to just get a girlfriend. When I am hardcore mongering, I do it for the variety. No reason to have to pay for a steady.Bro, you missed the point. Its not about the number of times the girl stays with you, its about bartering sex for goods. I've had sessions in exchange for 5 bottles of VS lotion, later the girl sold them for 250R. Same thing for digital cameras, clothes and perfume.
I used to have a great connection at a hospital in Rio. Doctors would order electronics, I would bring them down and then we would split the profit 50/50. Too bad some idiot married her and brought her to Miami. He fucked up a good hustle I had going.
Yeah, that might work in theory, but just try it in practice.
Brazilians will tell you hey could you bring.
Then when you do they no longer want or can afford it. Something always comes up. There must not be one healthy mother in Brazil.
Also, Brazilians pay for everything (and I mean everything) in multiple payments. 3,4. 12. They will tell you they will pay you the rest later and then never do.Very true.
I have my brazilian GF visiting me back home right now. Many of her friends ask her to buy stuff to bring back to Brazil. Mostly small and expensive stuff. If it's close friends there is no need for paying in advance. However all these friends of friends asking for stuff to be bought are a different matter. They ask for paying half in advance and the rest later. No way! Nothing is bought before the total sum (including a fee) entered my GFs account.
Exec Talent
01-12-14, 04:56
Just when you thought it was safe to get into a taxi in Rio the dreaded tables are back.
Taxi stops. You look at the meter. He grabs the dreaded table from the passenger seat and tells you your fare is a couple Reais more.
BTW coconuts are now selling for R$6 on Copacabana beach.
Exec Talent
01-14-14, 02:09
Just when you thought it was safe to get into a taxi in Rio the dreaded tables are back.
Taxi stops. You look at the meter. He grabs the dreaded table from the passenger seat and tells you your fare is a couple Reais more.
BTW coconuts are now selling for R$6 on Copacabana beach.I really am starting to hate these taxi drivers. A fare of $R7.70 suddenly becomes R10. I am going to print out the table and make sure I have exact change.
Tonight at the beach the gringo price for a can of beer was R$6. I was with my girl and trying to relax otherwise I would have gone off on the guy.
They are not even waiting until Carnaval to start gouging. Can't imagine what prices will be closer to the World Cup.
I only use taxis or drivers when arriving or leaving Rio because that is when I'm most vulnerable. I carry large cash amounts, luggage, etc. However, when comfortable, I use the available transportation system, mainly the metro or the buses. They may not get you where you want to go right away, they don't overcharge and they are available around the clock (Buses, not the metro).
With the World Cup this year and the Olympics 2 years later, I wonder how they plan on explaining this to the masses that this is how they do business? They have to get this fixed soon, I hope.
I really am starting to hate these taxi drivers. A fare of $R7. 70 suddenly becomes R10. I am going to print out the table and make sure I have exact change.
Tonight at the beach the gringo price for a can of beer was R$6. I was with my girl and trying to relax otherwise I would have gone off on the guy.
They are not even waiting until Carnaval to start gouging. Can't imagine what prices will be closer to the World Cup.
BTW coconuts are now selling for R$6 on Copacabana beach.6 fucking reais for a coconut? WTF? Did they have some big coconut drought or something? That is just crazy!
Exec Talent
01-14-14, 20:09
6 fucking reais for a coconut? WTF? Did they have some big coconut drought or something? That is just crazy!I really do not know what is going on. At night lately there has been a lot of activity along the beach. The kiosks are fairly busy and the restaurants along Avenida Atlantica are full. Many Brazilians from other areas but am noticing more foreign tourists than usual. A little odd because when I spoke to some of the hostel operators they were not full for New Years.
Tonight at the beach the gringo price for a can of beer was R$6. I was with my girl and trying to relax otherwise I would have gone off on the guy.Depends on the barraca and which beer. Kiosk charging $R6 for a chopp, with live entertainment. Have found barraca charging R$4. 50 for a can of Skol. Antarctica was R$5.
I checked last night: the coconuts are also R$6 at the kiosks on Copa beach.
BorussiaMG
01-16-14, 23:59
I really do not know what is going on. At night lately there has been a lot of activity along the beach. The kiosks are fairly busy and the restaurants along Avenida Atlantica are full. Many Brazilians from other areas but am noticing more foreign tourists than usual. A little odd because when I spoke to some of the hostel operators they were not full for New Years.Some Cariocas organize weekly events like an alternate electronic music party "Breakz" by Wobble near Leme or couchsurfing meetings at a cone closed to metro station Siqueira Campos.
Especially the 2nd event is gathered by tourists as well. The first one is great if you are young and wild and free. Strange people but a lot of fun.
Yeah, that might work in theory, but just try it in practice.
Brazilians will tell you hey could you bring.
Then when you do they no longer want or can afford it. Something always comes up. There must not be one healthy mother in Brazil.I think it's a cultural thing, and not the most attractive of traits. I see it even among Brazilians who go abroad and come back. This idea of "I'll pay you for it" is a nicety usually to let you "give" it to them without them not having made the polite gesture to pay for it. They never expect to pay. Bring a small preszent and they look at you aghast as if to say "Is that all you brought" as if the West was a free shopping trolley and your baggage quota was designed for their personal convenience. You just have to do what you think is right and not think they are ever going to cough up cash. If it's a gift, it's a gift. If it's something they are going to pay for, let them go abroad and get it themselves.
Also, Brazilians pay for everything (and I mean everything) in multiple payments. 3,4. 12. They will tell you they will pay you the rest later and then never do.Which is why the charges for credit are so high. So many defaulters. But even buying a pair of trainers is normal on credit.
But I am not bbeing a *****. It's a way of life that they all understand. And the credit system is one of the few things that has saved their economy in the past.
Exec Talent
01-17-14, 02:51
I have been around multi-millionaires since my early twenties and one thing they all have had in common is hating being gouged on commodities.
They will pay $100,000 for an exotic car and $2 million for a custom yacht but don't even think about trying to charge them $3 for a can of Coke.
I was at a budget churrascaria tonight which had been around R$40. Now they are charging R$55. They have no dinner business so I guess in typical Brazilian fashion, the thought is get as much as you can out of the clients you do have.
I am so damn tempted to go to Walmart in the US, buy as many cans of Coke and Red Bull as I can fit in 3 large suitcases, bring it to Rio and hock it on the beach at R$3 and R$5 a can.
When the Brazilian economy crashes and burns they will be getting exactly what they deserve.
BTW coconuts are now selling for R$6 on Copacabana beach.This is the coconut thread?
In Beiramar in Fortaleza the coconut price is now R$2 (raised it from R$1, 5 last year).
This is the coconut thread?
In Beiramar in Fortaleza the coconut price is now R$2 (raised it from R$1, 5 last year).Correct that, it is the multi-millionaire coconut thread.
Eric Cartman
01-20-14, 02:53
Just when you thought it was safe to get into a taxi in Rio the dreaded tables are back.
Taxi stops. You look at the meter. He grabs the dreaded table from the passenger seat and tells you your fare is a couple Reais more.
BTW coconuts are now selling for R$6 on Copacabana beach.The tables are the annual (at new year's) increase to 2013's taxi fares approved by the RJ prefeitura. It takes them 6+ months to adjust all the taxi meters. So they print out the tables and send them around, telling the driver to read the meter (old fare) and ajust it by the "tabela") new 2014 fare.
I've been on here saying that basically everyone in RJ got 7% annual raises due to the union laws. It hits taxis exactly the same way, with the fare increase. I think the $6 coconuts are a combination of "summer" (another excuse to raise prices) plus annual inflation. Price of everything started going up again in Nov / Dez when the annual salary increase was approved (retroactive to Sept).
Today I went up to departures to get my taxi from GIG to Copa. Guy starts driving without putting on the meter. Quote me R$80. I say,"put on the meter." It ends up being about R$56 with the tabela. He then proceeds to charge me R$10 more for "mala" (baggage) citing the R$1. 95 mandated price for baggage on the tabela, and counting my bags which were 1 suitcase. 1 backpack, and 3 duty free bags. Seriously he charged me R$2 each for plastic bags from duty free. Crazy. Not worth the hassle to argue over R$6 after 14 hours on a plane.
Mr Enternational
01-20-14, 04:27
He then proceeds to charge me R$10 more for "mala" (baggage) citing the R$1. 95 mandated price for baggage on the tabela, and counting my bags which were 1 suitcase. 1 backpack, and 3 duty free bags. Seriously he charged me R$2 each for plastic bags from duty free. Crazy. Not worth the hassle to argue over R$6 after 14 hours on a plane.Rsrsrs. So why didn't you put the duty free bags inside of the other bags after he tried that?
He then proceeds to charge me R$10 more for "mala" (baggage) citing the R$1. 95 mandated price for baggage on the tabela, and counting my bags which were 1 suitcase. 1 backpack, and 3 duty free bags. Seriously he charged me R$2 each for plastic bags from duty free. Crazy. ."Mandated Price?" Now taxi drivers have to charge for how many bags you carry? When did this happen? That has got to be one of the stupidest charges I have ever heard. Thanks for the info, now I know to stuff all of my duty free in my checked luggage before I go outside.
Exec Talent
01-21-14, 02:12
"Mandated Price?" Now taxi drivers have to charge for how many bags you carry? When did this happen? That has got to be one of the stupidest charges I have ever heard. Thanks for the info, now I know to stuff all of my duty free in my checked luggage before I go outside.The published charge actually used to be R$1.70 per bag so R$1.95 makes sense.
One time I came from the airport with a young macho taxi driver who insisted on honking his horn for everyone to get out of his way the whole trip. We arrive at my destination and he says it will be R$10 per large bag for a total of R$20. Keep in mind we were speaking Portuguese the whole time so he knew I was not some new to Brazil gringo. I handed him R$4 for the bags and he said it was R$20 or he would call the police. Then he proceeded to call another taxi driver over. I said no problem, I would wait for the police. He got all pissed off (I think mostly because he did not get over on the gringo) and left.
It really gets tiresome here in Rio constantly having to battle with people who live a life of ripping people off.
Eric Cartman
01-21-14, 02:14
"Mandated Price?" Now taxi drivers have to charge for how many bags you carry? When did this happen? That has got to be one of the stupidest charges I have ever heard. Thanks for the info, now I know to stuff all of my duty free in my checked luggage before I go outside.It's been a rule for a while, but they only started enforcing it in the last 6+ months. The guys picking up at both airports (GIG, SDU) are the worst about it.
I have been around multi-millionaires since my early twenties and one thing they all have had in common is hating being gouged on commodities.
They will pay $100, 000 for an exotic car and $2 million for a custom yacht but don't even think about trying to charge them $3 for a can of Coke.
I was at a budget churrascaria tonight which had been around R$40. Now they are charging R$55. They have no dinner business so I guess in typical Brazilian fashion, the thought is get as much as you can out of the clients you do have.
I am so damn tempted to go to Walmart in the US, buy as many cans of Coke and Red Bull as I can fit in 3 large suitcases, bring it to Rio and hock it on the beach at R$3 and R$5 a can.
When the Brazilian economy crashes and burns they will be getting exactly what they deserve.Be getting exactly what they deserve. BINGO!
Got to love Brazilian tv: http://www.xvideos.com/video3249736/brazilian_sensation_pt2
Hi all,
I like to get info on how to bring a car into Brazil. I heard it can done only for new cars and there is a 100% tax on new cars.
I went to a dealership in Brazil and asked how to buy a car there but wasn't much help. They told me I need a RNE to buy a car. But how does foreigner get a car loan?
This is the coconut thread?
In Beiramar in Fortaleza the coconut price is now R$2 (raised it from R$1, 5 last year).Must keep the coconut thread alive.
In Salvador the coconut price is R$2, 5-3.
DJ FourMoney
02-03-14, 12:58
Hi all,
I like to get info on how to bring a car into Brazil. I heard it can done only for new cars and there is a 100% tax on new cars.
I went to a dealership in Brazil and asked how to buy a car there but wasn't much help. They told me I need a RNE to buy a car. But how does foreigner get a car loan?Http://brazil.angloinfo.com/transport/vehicle-ownership/importing-a-car/
There's a pdf on the page as well.
My choice is to bring a car down because (1) cars in the US are MUCH CHEAPER! (2) Only certain Latin Countries have access to performance cars. Non-automotive types always bring up if the car you bring down will run on Ethanol. The majority of cars after the mid 90's will run on Ethanol, however its not optimized for that and currently only GM offers flexfuel ready cars, none of them particularly interesting.
In my case, there are aftermarket E85 / E100 sensors you can buy, plus OEM units will plug into the factory harness without issue. Finally I will put a custom CAL into the PCM, so not only will it tolerate Ethanol, I'll get a sizable performance boost as well (turbocharged cars love ethanol). Overall MPG lost will be about 10% over unleaded gas which is also available down there, but I rather run it on the good stuff, cheap racing fuel.
Eric Cartman
02-04-14, 02:02
Hi all,
I like to get info on how to bring a car into Brazil. I heard it can done only for new cars and there is a 100% tax on new cars.
I went to a dealership in Brazil and asked how to buy a car there but wasn't much help. They told me I need a RNE to buy a car. But how does foreigner get a car loan?You'd be crazy to get a car loan in Brazil. The interest and other costs are ABSURD.
Mr Enternational
02-04-14, 05:45
You'd be crazy to get a car loan in Brazil. The interest and other costs are ABSURD.The interest? The PRICE of a car there is absurd as well. And don't mention the reliability issues of vehicles made there.
DJ FourMoney
02-04-14, 07:29
The interest? The PRICE of a car there is absurd as well. And don't mention the reliability issues of vehicles made there.You can always get an imported car, of course the prices are absurd. $60K for a Mini S, not even a John Cooper Works? $80K for a Jeep Grand Cherokee?
As I said these things are cheaper in the US by quite a bit and interest rates are ridiculously low.
Eric Cartman
02-05-14, 02:57
Must keep the coconut thread alive.
In Salvador the coconut price is R$2, 5-3.It's now at least R$5, 00 in Copa, on Barata Ribeiro at the juice bars. Beach and stands are probably higher.
Exec Talent
02-08-14, 20:40
The quality of the pay for play women in Rio these days hardly justifies the expense. Whether in a private apartment, termas or Balcony there is no way anyone can say that the quality of the women is the same as it was just a few years ago. Also, when I recently was in a privee, the girl says it is R$80 more for anal. Felt like I was in Europe. Probably some GDP came back and told the others. You know they charge extra for that in Europe.
In the US, there are tons of attractive women offering escort services at prices a lot lower than the total cost of traveling and playing in Rio. That said there are some things that are hard to beat. One is the music. I was coming back from the grocery store last night and passed a hole-in-the-wall bar. A guy was singing with recorded background music and he was fantastic. The passion and talent that Brazilians have for music is hard to beat. If you enjoy socializing, Brazil is the place to be. Brazilians are very welcoming and always open to a conversation. This includes absolutely stunning women.
So, if you are only coming to Brazil for pay for play, I would say stay home. There is little to see or experience these days. But, if you enjoy life on a little deeper level, Brazil offers a very rich experience in women, culture and friendship.
But, if you enjoy life on a little deeper level, Brazil offers a very rich experience in women, culture and friendship.Hear hear! That is why some of us keep coming back. Its not just about the pussy (although it is the best!). Brazil sucks you in and gives you saudades as soon as you leave. No other place like it IMO
The quality of the pay for play women in Rio these days hardly justifies the expense. Whether in a private apartment, termas or Balcony there is no way anyone can say that the quality of the women is the same as it was just a few years ago. Also, when I recently was in a privee, the girl says it is R$80 more for anal. Felt like I was in Europe. Probably some GDP came back and told the others. You know they charge extra for that in Europe.
In the US, there are tons of attractive women offering escort services at prices a lot lower than the total cost of traveling and playing in Rio. That said there are some things that are hard to beat.Jeez, ET, you're sounding like our friend Jubby! :eek: LOL Perhaps, you are unaware, but they charge for extras in SP. I'm not sure when THAT started in Rio, but I've noticed that the local boards are now reporting if anal is an extra charge. She charged you R$80? Sounds like a Gringo tax. Shoulda been R$40-50. I keep returning to Brazil, because I can not get what I want back in the US: The PSE w / GFE. Yes, it's a little harder to find now. But it's here. That and the Churrasacrias and the stuff you wrote. :)
Papi Muy Rico
02-13-14, 20:29
Hello people, I just wanted to share a question sent by a punter and my reply to him. I hope it helps.
Hello, I saw your post about brazil. I have a settlement coming and I was thinking of living in brazil for awhile. I want to go somewhere besides Rio. I was wondering if you think parts of brazil are good for finding a girlfriend instead mongering? Maybe, Salvador, Recife, Fortaleza or brasilia. Do you know if these places are too violent or too expensive? thanksIn first place, let me tell you that I have been everywhere in Brasil but only have a good knowledge of Manaus because my beast friend lives there and I've spent a lot of time there. I've been to Fortaleza, Recife, Rio, Salvador and Sao Paulo.
Brazil is good for both, you can monger and you can also get a good, sexy GF. Brazilian girls are very warm, horny, loving, but also can be very, very jealous. In my experience, the easiest city to get non GDP girls is Manaus, you can go to the Malls, street parties, to the dance venues and hook up really quick with a sexy, young local. But you can get normal girls anywhere in Brasil. It requires you doing your part, which is learning some Portuguese before you go and PRACTICING IT.
For living in Brazil, the safest city is Manaus in the Amazon, it has the best indicators in terms of crime and that's a fact. Now, safety is a relative term because most of the time depends on behavior, on people not doing stupid things. Read the section about safety and look for the guidelines at the beginning.
Brazil got very expensive with the rise of their currency. When it was R3 for US$1, was pretty cheap, but now it is quite expensive, however, the currency tends to devaluate which is good news for tourists.
In general, manual service or labor is pretty cheap like mechanics or maids, imports are very expensive like designer clothing or apple stuff, rent is cheaper than the US provided you don't live in Leblon and the best Rio / SP areas. In Manaus rent is very, very low, an apartment in Centro, where my friend lives, maybe around US$200 for a 3/2 townhouse. Food is about the same as the US but with a maid preparing your food ends up being cheap.
Now, I would choose a city where you know people or have friends. If you don't know anybody, then start with a city with a large ex-pat community, make some friends, learn from them and after a while you can go on your own and explore the rest of Brasil.
I hope this helps.
By the way, where are you from? I am from Miami, FL
600 days in paradise.
hello to all, this is ibiza007.
it has been a long time since i have posted, but i have so many memories of the time i spent in brasil, that i wanted to provide a quick recap of the almost two years i lived there. this report will be unfortunately long, but should provide some decent information on what newcomers can expect, and probably a few things even some pros do not know. although much has changed, much is the same, especially when in relation to everyday life in brasil. as the title indicates, i lived at ground zero for mongering in brasil, for over 600 days. i arrived in the fall of 2007 and left in the summer of 2009.
i will apologize now for how bad i will butcher the names and places, but i am too lazy to look everything up. the veterans will know the places, many are gone. i will just touch on the subjects, so as not to bore everyone with details. the order of topics will suck as well, as i am covering many, many areas of rio.
to start, i was able to land an assignment which was related to the education field in brasil, specifically i spent about 200 + working days (out of 600 days in total) at a universidade in rio.
even though i was in rio for a very long time, my portuguese never became fluent, but i was able to survive very well. i tell my friends, i knew how to get cerveza, comida, taxis and pussy. that pretty much is all you need to get going. oh, do learn to count, as the number 6 being meia, will really confuse you. meia noite?
so, landing at the airport with no knowledge of brasil or rio and heading to largo do machado for a hotel, i was amazed at the favelas on the way into the city. i was hoping it would get better, which it did.
as i did not speak any porto, my first many meals were a coke and a misto quente.
the first week i was totally lost, and living in a hotel in largo do machado. there is not much to do there at night, but i do see now there are some prives there.
with a stroke of luck, an associate at work mentioned an apartment she knew of for rent in copacabana. i had never been to copa before. she rented from a family that had two apartments in a building, they lived in another building, thank god, or i would have been kicked out if they saw everything that went through my doors. but, she hooked me up with them, and i was able to rent an apartment from them, this is not easy to do without a guarantee in brasil, there are tons of rules about over and under 90 days, etc. you need a sponsor to rent long term in brasil.
so, i am in. well the location is one block inland from ave nossa senora, and on the same street as the othon palace. so, you guessed, about three blocks from help, or as is better known, helpeeee.
by a stroke of luck, i am living minutes from the center of the whole scene in copa. help was heaven in its day. it was a party every night, and a good one.
just a recap of the experience at help. because of where i lived, i either went to help or walked by at least five times a week, so maybe 300-400 times in two years, i either was inside, outside, or at minimum, walked by to see what was happening in the outdoor area. there was the inside the patio group, the outside the patio on the street group, and the inside the club group. many girls never went inside, they did not need to. i went inside a lot at first, as it was very entertaining and fun. i was pulling fish out left and right, and the quality was very good in 2007. any shape and flavor you could ever want was there. the price was on average about 150r per night, a few would take less, and many wanted more. but 150r (60usd) would get you a long way. either for 2 hours or maybe the whole night. during carnaval help changed its style, many more pros from sp came in, and the level of quality went up. the cutest girl i ever saw in rio was there one night, she wanted 400r. i told her it was a lot and she explained she was a student from niteroi and it cost a lot to get there by taxi. i told her to come back tomorrow and take the bus and i would give her 300r! i never got her, and i should have paid the full price that night. she looked like a young kelly labrock, the girl in the weird science movie. probably the best looking girl i ever saw in rio, and there are many beautiful ones in rio.
it was heaven, but i was burning through cash, so i would browse the patio and skip the entry later on. i probably went in less than 50 times in 600 days. but, i had many, many coffees on the patio. copa is not even the same animal now, without help. balcony sucks, more on that later.
so, across the street is working girl beach. well, i had to read massive amounts of papers for my work, so i went to ho beach almost every weekday, for 2-4 hours to read. got to read these things somewhere, right.
louis and washington, you veterans know them, they would see me coming from across the street, and get everything set up before i crossed the street. the prices varied for tourists, i had them about ½ price on the chairs and umbrellas, as they took care of me. i would bring washington electronics from the us, and he helped me. for those that do not know how that works on the praia, it is very competitive between tent owners. these rental places are family owned and most have been in their exact spot for many years. get to know them and they will take care of you. there was one guy that looked like alex rodriguez, he was dick, from a different tent. he played foot volley all day.
so, there were about 20 girls there everyday, maybe 10 regulars and sometimes a few rookies from out of town popped in. i watched their routine for 100's of day's. i watched gringo after gringo sit down, get a woody and head of to a hotel. i think many asked for 200-250 reals, but 100-150 was possible for 2 hours. i am not sure when the times changed to 1 hour for service, but it was always in 2 hr blocks in 2007. i see all the sites now offer 1 hr, but when i was there hotside, com. br girls always offered 2 hours for r150-200.
there is one current agency offering 1 hr. 150r. 2 hrs. 170, and 6 hours for 250r$, if want to have a viagra 6 hr fest, or a six hour bj, here you go.
have you ever noticed that those beach girls had legs like a golden retriever? well, they never shave, they use a peroxide paste to bleach the hair, so you always would see white paste on their legs and arms. shave the bush, not the legs, makes sense i guess, but is can be like sleeping with a bear. these girls were hardcore pros, believe me, they worked the same games everyday. some were really successful, others not. the good ones were alway going out somewhere, usually not to return, but they would show up at help later. i spent a lot of time at the old beach bars at night, just watching the show go by. i liked the old bars much better, than the new ones.
i do not know if any of you have been there during the season when the water takes out the beach. i saw water come all the way to ave. atlantica, and there would be no tents at all for about a week. amazing site. there was a massage lady at ho beach, i thought she gave me the eye to want me, but she was a lesbian, she live in the building next door to me. 40r. 1hr. great deal.
i found about 4-5 gems on the beach, out of 100's, many were quite regular visitors over time. during carnaval, they would come from out of town and sleep on the beach, i saw it a few times. one girl lived there a week. slept in the tree area.
the dog- did any of you ever see the dog that was there everyday. i was totally amazed he never got killed, he made it across ave, atlantica all the time.
meia pataca. mp (spelling?). ok, this was the only place to check in the afternoon, it always had tables of girls, and for some reason, many were really fun, and great to hang out with. i was saw an older (70+) couple, in matching green and white rugby shirts, sit down, not realizing they just sat in the hornets nest of sex. i watched them, as they came to their senses about where they had just landed. well, fred and ethel, this was not kansas. after about 15 minutes they got up and left, i think fred needed to go lay down and put ice on his woody, and ethel was just plain disgusted. it was an awesome site to see how they changed in 15 min.
i was in rio last year and mp was dead, is it still dead? the beach was dead, and with no helpee, an era was over. help closed many years ago, i know.
the office. i went in there many times to watch sports, it never was very busy, but what a show to watch the comings and goings of that place over time.
i loved seeing the police helicopters buzz the beach.
i bought a bicycle and i rode the beach from end to end many times, as well as walked it a lot. i walked from help to leme many times. i knew every store and restaurant on that strip. i did not know leme well, but there is not much there. i rode every side street in copa, from end to end. i had lots of spare time.
i was able to find the plain craziest gdp in all of rio at meia pataca. it was just a random afternoon hookup. her name was crystal, and there was nothing that could slow her down. it did not matter how much, how many times, or where you wanted to put, she was in. but, during half the time of fucking her, her boyfriend from italy (lucas) would call her and accuse her of cheating, and she would deny it on the phone with a dick in her ass. she was about 5'10, and pretty cute. she did move to italy with the guy. she had 2 kids, with mom up north, as is very common with these girls. she destroyed my bedroom every time she came over. my apt was only a five minute walk from the othon palace. i saw crystal maybe 10 times, even went to lapa with her a few times. as has been said before, most gdp have guys they are working from all angles, find a nice non-gdp to take home. this is from a great amount of observation. there are a few part timers, but they will never respect you, as you are a dog that goes with gdp's.
well, i knew my backyard (helpeee, mp, and the beach) pretty well, as i did not discover downtown for a while. but, there was always luomo, which was really heaven, until it got expensive, the girls were super nice, and it was about 140r all in at that time. i went to mc maybe 10 times, but i always liked luomo better. much lower profile.
so, still in copa, i found a few prives, there were not that many in 07', but there was one right above the dominos, near the hsbc, and it was about 3 min from my apt, so, that got used about 3 times a week, after 10 pm, still, at this time i have not explored past 10 min from my apt.
so, i scoured every bit of info and worked all the local mp's in copa. down by the park where monte carlo is are the 2 mp's above the hsbc, where i got money every other day! the one was kinda low budget, and the other one was not any nicer but had nice girls. it was expensive, i think 140 for 40 min, and shitty rooms with cement towers for bed stands. but, one gp, claudia, loved it in the bunda, she was crazy for it. to last day i was in brasil, she got it at least 3 times a month. she cost me a small fortune, but it was worth every penny. one of the top five i ever found, out of 100's. the place was way over priced, but she was gold.
i went to barbarela, but never paid, was offered 200 usd, for a beautiful girl. her name was pamela. she said her name was.
pawwww
, mellll aaaa. i should have done her, for less money, but she was cute, she probably would have been terrible.
in copa there were many hidden places, but it was always more expensive than centro. i do not remember all the places, but i think there were maybe 5-10 with multiple girls, and 30 + prives.
today, half the prives advertised are in copa. it has really changed. there are still places when you get off the metro, there were two, near where luomo was. nothing special, but you could stop in a for a quickie on the way back to my apt at night. many times i got off the metro there, and walked ave. ns to my apt. it is a long walk, but i really learned ave. ns well. i walked that street 100's of times. i saw all of the night stuff, when the sun goes down the vendors come out of the woodwork and line up on the streets.
individual escorts have always been in copa, but i almost never used ads without faces, and in rio it is not common to show faces in ads, compared to sp, where most ads have face shots. it is better now, but still most gp in copa do not show their face. except, ads for massagistas, in white robes or pants. ok, these girls are almost always open to anything their covered face friends are offering. just because they have clothes on in their ad means very little. many of the best girls in rio are massagistas. i guess they feel better to not spread their monkey for an ad, but i have had many great times with these girls. i did find a few on hotside, in copa, that did work out. but i think hotside was about 50/50 on success. without faces, it can be hit and miss.
ave. princess isabel. ok, there were about 4 shitholes on that street. there were ads on all the poles, and i checked a few out. they are in the apt towers across from the stri clubs. pretty low budget, but for $40r, it was not terrible, for 30 min. they are probably still there.
strip clubs near princess isabella. not great, went a few times, and saw a few interesting things, my friends pulled a few from one place, but never spent much time in those. they are expensive.
balcony. it was the second tier to helpeee. quality was ok, but prices not that much cheaper, so why bother. the only time i ever got totally burned was at balcony, i put together a two girl combo, for 2 hrs for 200. went to the nearby hotel, i paid up front, never do that. i was hoping for a big lesbo show, i got shit and they left in about 20 minutes, totally burned. i went back to.
balcony about 4 times and made sure those two never got a date those nights. i talked to their clients and told them they were snakes, to be avoided.
last time i was at balcony- (2 years ago) there was a guy there kinda acting like a pimp. he was recruiting from the tables outside, to go to the twin apt tower close by and take guys to the rooms. i never saw that before. there are for sure still shitty privies in that tower, across from the othon.
to expand the base, i started checking out the street walkers on ave atlantica. many, not so interesting, but one 105 pounder caught my eye, and she was a real regular for the whole time, she would call when she needed rent money. 105 lbs of crazy sex, every time. beatriz.
the only other sw i ever was interested in was a tall, skinny dark haired girl. giovanna. holy shit. ok, i met giovanna one night walking one block back from ave. atlantica. at this time i know nothing about the scene. we talk and she tells me she works downtown and makes 40r per fuck, so we cut a deal for 2 hrs for 100r. well things work out ok, so i see her about 3 times more. near luoma there is a swing club, and i always wanted to go, so, i ask giovanna about going. she can not wait to go. so, we go to the club, go inside and sit down. soon we are upstairs, and watching the big orgy bed, well, she gets an itch, strips naked and starts munching away at some pussy. giovanna is buck naked and in the orgy pile, with her ass sticking in the air, while she is having some snack on a girl, a guy walks up and sticks his dick in her from behind, she never even lifted her head, then another guy gets her. so, here i am with my dick in my hand and my date munching away and getting stuffed every 5 minutes. lesson learned, do not let date jump in the orgy pile. make sure you get some trade value out of your investment. but, she met a lady with a guy in the club. this lady was a famous author or something in brasil, and somehow we ended up in her car, a bmw suv, loaded, which in brasil is super expensive. the lady drives to her apt in leme. ok, so we pull in the driveway to enter the underground parking, and holy shit. this lady is totally drunk, she floors the gas and hits the wall of the garage at about 50 mph. the airbags go off, and the car is full of dust, i think all 4 bags went off. her car is fucking totaled. giovanna hurts her leg, so i am off with her to public hospital. public hospitals in brasil are shit. the beds barely roll, there is about 1 doctor for 30 people, and all the equipment is old and worn out. so, two hours later, we are out of there. the only good news was the doctora was really cute. i am not sure why, but in brasil almost all dentist are female. my dentist that did a root canal on me was smoking hot. white lab coat and high heels works for me. oh doctora vanessa.
i never saw giovana again, to much drama, but that night was right out of a movie.
so, she has my interest in downtown going now. i start investigating downtown, and it was a big mistake to discover the 156 building. i lived in this building. at minimum. 3 times a week, maybe sometimes 5. i could have had my mail delivered there. i ate lunch in that area many days of the week. there are tons of great places to eat in centro. i still love the waiters in their jackets, and the way they work the spoons to serve your food.
i would guess i was in centro well over 150 times during the day. i walked to every shit hole in centro, looking for the gems. i always had better luck in the 156 than the 185, not sure why. but when you have 6 good apts in the 156, you will never go hungry. there are some great places to eat in centro. when i first arrived, i actually found a place that had lunch for $r1, no kidding. it was a toasted sandwich, one piece of baloney, and a 4 ounce drink for $r1. lunch for 40 cents. it was across the street from the cinema at cinelandia, where they sell the books outside. it was a street vendor. i am not sure where brasil buys those plastic cups, but i am sure they are tested to be the minimum in strength, if 0. 001 of an inch thinner, they will not stand up.
cafe columbo is a great place for a date, that place is amazing inside. and the harry potter library is really cool. i walked every street in centro many times, especially around the uruguaiana market. i went in there a lot and i never could memorize the whole thing. it was always confusing. but right next to it are about 4 shitty mp, not good quality, but they are there.
one thing about the price of a place, was always reflected in the cabins, the showers and the towels. low price, low quality of everything. cheap price, more mold in the shower, if a shower.
dvd vendors and the police. ok, there is some kind of rule about having product vs. no product and connections to the police. that is why sometimes they run like rats and some do not give a shit about the police. never knew the rules.
once i even tested the street touts 10$r offer. the little guys with the flyers. i went to a place for 10r and got a 10 min cbj, it did exist for $4. 00 usd.
i probably was in over 60 different apts in centro. maybe 50% i never went back to.
my good friend full throttle and i had a great 4 plex one afternoon, for a total of $r240 for an hour, all four girls in the apt.
i mentioned one time to full throttle, you know ' i think i could smell a *house in a hurricane'. my spider senses were pretty good when i would walk around centro. but the last time i went back, i was totally off. i could not get a good feel of the place. i was totally off my game. many closed places in centro and many apt's in the 156 were closed. my problem with the 156 was once i had about 6-7 rock solid stars, i quit expanding the book, i did not need to, i was way to busy getting solid service, which i had paid for to learn. so, the expansion slowed the second year. why take as many chances. by the end of year one. i had about 20 that i could for sure count on. 20 will keep you busy my friends.
'across the tracks'. i do not think most people go across ave. presidente vargas to explore, but there was some crazy things over there. it would be considered the wrong side of the tracks in most cities. there was whiskeria aquarius, a true terma, that had afternoon specials of $30r, for 30 min. i met a super tiny girl there that worked at centaurus, yes, the one in ipanema, and was working afternoons in aquarius. centarus for $30r! she was really cute, not a dog at all. just proves, if you keep looking you can find hidden gems.
there were places across the tracks that had $20r sessions fo r20 min, plus 2r for a condom, bought in the bar. i would guess there are some still there. if you just walk around over there the places are easy to spot. one place was on the second story, shitty little bar. pick a girl, buy a condom, and enter a room, but then you got in a cubby hole, like a boat birth, not a whole room. it was fun.
i went to mv 30, and any terma. bar in centro. i am sure i did not go to every one, but i probably did not miss many. i went to the shitty walk up places, and anything else i could find down there.
cancun, and others as well, i could never remember all the places.
4 x4. i was in there maybe 20 times, usually before 5 for 130r discount, a few times at night, probably more when i was with friends. melissa, a skinny blonde to those that knew her, was fantastic. it was fun, but could get crowded. once i discovered 502 for ½ the price, was about 120r, i never looked back. one girl, aline, was crazy. i asked where she learned english, she said from watching cartoons and porno. what a vocabulary. she was insatiable, as where most of the 502 crew. great bang for your buck there, and cheap beer. it was great because the girls always danced naked on the pole, but almost no gringos in 07'.
even today, i would think centro still has the best offerings, but it is for the daytime. i am not sure how many places are in centro, but probably 50 or better if you spent a year looking for them all. there are way more places than we read about on isg, i found them in botafogo, gloria, flamengo, everywhere. mostly small 2-3 girl places. i lived for a month in botafogo, there are a few there.
two places i do not read much about, rio bablonia and aeroporto, those are good places, not frequented by gringos. i would still suggest rio babalonia as an alternative to 4 x 4.
ok, i am rambling and much to cover so, i will get to the points here a little faster.
lapa, really fun at night, not many gp but full of tv's if that is your thing. go to club carioca de gema in lapa, a great place. whenever you talk to a girl and she says she is carioca, ask her if she is 'cariaco de gema', if she is, guaranteed to get a smile from her.
rio scenarium was new in 07', it was a great place just to see brasilians having fun. i have never seen a place or country where the girls will sing a song they know all together, even the guys will sing. brasil is amazing for this, the whole fucking bar sings, and has a good time, not just one song, but many songs.
one time in gloria i was wondering around at night and found a really cool bar in an alley where they were playing old movies on an outside screen, really a fun place, really locals. so, get into the cracks of the city, not the main places.
this really holds during carnaval, get to the bloco parties, they are the best parties in all of rio. larangaras bloco party is killer every night. go to as many bloco parties as you can, they are the best. i went to sambodromo, as well, great time, but the thing lasts all fucking night literally. we went at 8:00 pm and at 7:00 there were still floats coming into the street. i can only drink for 11 hours straight, and then i am done, i had to go home. it is also expensive.
crime. i lived in copa for almost 2 years, i saw three main crimes, all were tourists with cameras or wallets in hand, favela kid steals the shit and runs, police do not chase them. 2 of 3 times i saw overweight tourist take chase, better luck catching usain bolt. 2 of 3 times overweight tourist gets going too fast and falls face first in street, now he does not have his shit and he has scrapes on his face. let them' run. i was standing next to a policeman when one event happened, he did not take chase, told me he had a bad knee and that it would be worthless to chase him as he would be in the favela in a few minutes, so why bother. he had a radio on his chest and never blinked to call anybody.
i also had a friend robbed, at knifepoint, on the beach at night. i can only imagine the number of couples that want a romantic stroll on the beach at night. well, near help, the beach is narrow, so maybe, but farther down, it is a long way from the street, so i think 100% for sure you would be robbed on the beach in the dark, near the water.
dead bodies. i saw this two times in rio, one was a gunshot, and the other a suicide, they think. i came out of the metro in botafogo, and there were two brown shirt police (i called them ups police, no guns allowed) standing over a black plastic bag, which they said was from a jumper. they had yellow tape hanging off bikes, cars and trees.
ups police, unless they were in groups of 5 or more doing nothing, you never see them, they do nothing. all day long.
but, my carioca friends have had much worse luck, i know three of them that have had guns in their faces and been carjacked, or their phones and money taken. i knew a girl, non-gp, in niteroi, that had policemen in her family. 3 of them were shot dead. bad shit does happen in rio, but i was lucky, never to me. i had 30 + gp in my apartment and never had a problem, but i am sure it happens, guard your stuff.
world cup. it is crazy, nobody will work, all taxis will stop, period, not a chance in the world you will get a taxi to drive you anywhere. tv's hanging in trees, whatever. go to pao de suca (sugar loaf) for the cup parties, it is crazy up there. 1000's of people yelling and screaming. girls, girls, girls, everywhere. plan accordingly if you need to go somewhere. there could be a few taxis with tv's in them. many taxi drivers watch novelas when they drive.
boobs and hair. ok, so one thing to look out for is the boobs. i got fooled a few times, when the bra came off, i was looking at a nat geo africa belly boob. many of the girls have kids, so what out for low hanging fruit. the same with the hair extensions, running your finger through extensions sucks, and many have them. do not fall for the push up bras.
busses, they will kill you, either run you over or stop at 80mph and send you flying. they are totally fucking dangerous, either in or out. i was in one once going to shopping ny in barra, and the fucker hit the brakes at 70 and pulled over to stop, everyone flying around. the tourists for the cup and olympics will shit their pants when they ride those busses. they were cheap 2r.
i rode them every day, from my apt to botafogo. my apartment was 30 feet from the last new metro stop in copa, the metro was there about a year after i moved, would have been killer to have it 20 feet from my door, but i learned way more walking around. when i first got there i shared a driver to take me and another person to botafogo everyday and pick us up every night. it was 100r for the month for 20 days. a great deal.
taxis- walk to the beach and get a taxi, it saves a lot of money not sitting in traffic and going down ave ns. also, this trick is well known, go upstairs at the airport to get a drop off taxi heading back, about 20-30 are cheaper than downstairs, with the big titted girls selling rides.
taxis running you over is surely possible. i asked a caricoa what would happen if a taxi hit me, and he said i would get a bill for the damage to the taxi! busses will for sure run you over.
parking- i am not sure if many of you know how the parking works there. the cars are 3 inches apart, maybe. but, you leave your car in neutral, and somebody will come and push it around, so you can get out of your spot. then immediately flag a new car and charge them 2-3 reals for watching the car, or basically turning their back when somebody breaks in. there were always fights among these parking guys, but now they have some kind of a grey vest they get from somebody, not sure how it works.
gas stations- at least in botafogo, they have cuteis luring you in to pump gas, tight shirts, got to love it.
cpf. get one, not sure if you need one for phone, but you did. now many phones are brought in unlocked, so not as much need to buy local. i needed one real quick and the finance ministry was on strike for 8 weeks.
strikes. brasil is always on strike, and it really affects the banks, so never count on getting money when you need it, plus the atm's can have problems, at the worst time. like 2 am, when you have a hottie in the taxi, and no money to pay her!
keyshops in copa, not sure how you make a living selling 8. 3r keys a day, but i guess they sell eggs too, there was one right outside my apt door. they are everywhere.
apt porteros. these guys are the best, they take care of you and would ward off girls trying to come in, and watch out for you. i would call girls, and the porteros would call me from the desk and i would just say'ok', and bam, next thing a smiling face at my door.
floods in copa. i will mention the floods for a reason. when it rains really hard, it floods even ave. ns. it happened a few times. well, when it floods, water goes in the stores. one supermarket near my apt got flooded really bad, maybe 3 inches in the store. i watch the cleanup.
ok, the usual broom with a towel, push water out to the street. so, there is smelly street water under every rack right, they never even thought about cleaning under those racks, the place smelled like shit water for a week, and i am sure there is mold everywhere under those racks. buyer beware. there is no such thing as a mop in brasil, only towels wrapped on the end of something.
pharamcias- just good for condoms, one every 30 feet in copa, and they will deliver condoms at any hour.
police, they love to ride around with lights on and the barrel of an m-16 sticking out the window.
tunnel to copa, near rio sul shopping. i am amazed i never saw anyone killed there. i came back to copa via car most nights through the tunnel. so, you are going 50 mph, you come up on a slower bus, and you whip around the right side to pass, and wholly fuck if there is not a donkey cart or a man pushing a cart of sugarcane, right in the fucking road. death waiting to happen.
always loved the kids with the balls in the street, performing. i always paid them a few coins, they earned it.
street kids. i learned a lesson. i gave a handful of coins to each of about 6 little kids, and as soon as i turned around, the big fat sister took all the money. also, the fat ladies sitting on the street begging, the espiritismo ladies, well, i put a few coins in her basket, only to later watch her pull out a cell phone. and cell phones in 2007 were expensive and were really fucking expensive to use. you could burn a 25r card in minutes.
varig and gol. gol is the greatest ever, only hires under 30 cuties, vs usa ugly ducklings, great plan. if you want to see the best girls in sp, non-programma, just go to the airport in the center of sp, and watch the female passengers come and go, all the females have money and dress to the nines. about every tenth one is stunning, it was always fun. i always thought the duty free girls, the sales clerks, in sp where about as cute as any girls in brasil, i loved going to the duty free when flying in and out of brasil.
varig, quick story, a friend of mine was in rio for 8 months trying to get a varig plane back to the leasing company in the usa he worked for. varig failed to pay the lease, but kindly removed the engines from the plane. so the plane needed millions and millions of dollars just to get ready to be taken home. nice job varig. took about 8 months, but he got paid 1000$ a day, so he did not give shit to wait for them. no wonder they went broke.
rio airport. international departure. i sure hope they make the food area bigger for the olympics and cup, one shitty little sagado place, with food for 20 people, really, will that cut it for the world audience.
food. i ate out over 800 times in rio, i never cooked once. so, i know a little about eating in rio. kilo bars are great, until the 30th time. i like the suco bars just fine, but watch out for the kilo places offering desert, it is tasty, but costs the same as the rest of your meal. i was addicted to acai, the best stuff on earth, about 2-3 bowls, not cups, a day, plus suco de manga, you can live off this stuff. i ate in almost every place in copa, under 20$r a few times i went for the big kilo places, but usually for a date or a party, the good places are amazing.
brasilians love eating fuckin' chicken (frango) every possible way known to man. some meats are great and some not great, picana is all over the board.
bus to sp. i took the overnight bus to sp about 5 times. the busses are nice, but still a long trip, even with the food stops in the middle of the night. not many gringos on the night busses to sp. they work and are not a bad way to go. get the executive bus, with food, blankets and movies.
wire nuts. they do not have a fucking clue what one is in brasil, if you want to be a millionaire in brasil, sell wire nuts, i was in hundreds of shitty showers, and even nice showers, and every fucking one of them had wires exposed with electrical tape. i am sure people have died from this in the past.
buying shit on the beach in copa. do not do it, the stuff comes from uruguaiana market in centro, there was always a guys selling the belly bags with the huge zippers on the beach, he sold for 50r and i bought the same bag for 25r in centro.
i bought a few t-shirts on the beach in copa, every one of them was good for a dish towel after being washed and dried, they were way undersized and shrunk to a kids medium. never buy the fucking things. if you do buy them, get them huge and just buy them at the market next to the 156 bldg. stores in copa, if you buy something, they do not let you return it, maybe store credit if lucky, do not buy stuff.
selling stuff, i had friends that tried to sell electronics, it is dangerous, and there will always be a great story why they can not pay for it. ever notice why stores sell in 12 x payments, because people have no money and they do not realize how much interest is in those 12 payments. you can however trade electronics for pussy, as it is just another hour of her time, and she willingly give that for some outdated gadget (blackberries) that you no longer want. computers are fucking double in brasil, just because of taxes.
escritorios. they are a necessary evil in life in brasil. a place full of note cards that takes forever to get anything done for a lot of money. i hope they never have a fire.
banks- the slowest places on earth, six people can take an hour. because people pay their water bill, and phone bill at the bank. banks are for money, not bills. tip, pay bills in a downstairs lotteria, no lines.
grocery stores- these people make banks look like super workers. i will take forever to get through a grocery line. the girl sitting, on a stool, will, as slowly as possible scan about 4 items a minute, and when you hand her a 100r note, the whole store will come to a halt,
'manager' i need change. holy shit it is slow. at 5:00pm plan accordingly.
ipanema. i went there about once or twice a week, very few prives there, but a few. the clubs there are fun, but expensive to get in. there are a couple of layers in the clubs, locals with money, who have 10 guys chasing them, or a lower economic class in the club trolling for a guy with money, there are no poor girls looking for poor guys.
you can meet girls there, not a problem. but then you have to spend a lot of time not having sex with them. no time for that. i dated some locals, but the time required prevented me from having no commitments and a schedule of unending exploration.
i had a friend who got a poor girl, that was literally cindy crawford hot, to be his girlfriend, but he stole her from his friend (he should have known this would not end well). so, he gets her to come to the usa, they get married, and she gets a job at an la restaurant as a hostess. 6 months later goodby gringo. snagged a doctor with lots of money. this girl models for a top 5 agency today, so she was top of the heap, she was about 21. if you get a super hot gold digger, you better keep her really happy or she will say tchau gringo. she probably has a new doctor by now.
ipanema on sunday. the praia in ipanema on sunday is about the best non-sexual experience in rio. just go hang out, it is great fun. bikers, runners, roller blades, beer, bikinis, the best.
peep show in copa. not sure if it is still there but there was one near the park near monte carlo. you could go upstairs, pay a few reals to watch the show and get the girls phone number, it was possible in 07'.
adult cines in centro. i never spent time in there, but something must happen, because it is not just for the film. maybe somebody can fill me in on this. there are some good restaurants back there, near metro cinelandia.
learning portuguese. i think you can sign up at puc for an extended course to stay in brasil forever, if you can afford it. if you overstay, you will be fined. i was fined not for overstaying, but for not re-registering when i moved to florianopolis for few months, they charged me about $r700 fine for not re-registering in floripa with the police, and i had a valid visa, not a visa problem, my visa was good for 2 years.
tijuca. i lived with a friend in tijuca for about three months. i went to the tijuca mall everyday. his apt was one minute from the mall and you had to walk through it to get to the metro. there are some really cute girls there, not easy to get, but super cute. there are a few prives in tijuca close to the metro, about 5 min walking from my friends place, i went, and there was one girl with a killer body, her name was luma, great time. 80r hr, all ports open. it was five minutes walking, and open till 9pm. almost everyday i went in there, plus the other big one in tijuca. there are about 5 prives in tijuca, most close to the metro. many are now closed in tijuca.
maracana, i went to one game and it is fucking wild. highly suggest for fun.
also for fun, go to the horse race track, i think in leblon, maybe jardim. that is a super cool place, really old style. 2$r bets and they have a restaurant there. near solarium if you need to pop in. great place to kill time and drink beer.
there are also a lot of cool bars on lagoa, at night, something different.
bars, never lose that fucking piece of paper with your drinks on it. i will cost you big time.
the metro in rio is good, always works, and i never had problems, watch the pink cars for ladies only at certain times, and always give your seat up to a older person or a pregnant lady, you will get the evil eye if you do not.
the open sewer in tijuca will kill your senses, it stinks. i am not sure how these open sewers will look to the world for world cup and the olympics. i never swam one time in copa, you would be a fool to swim there, and i never saw one person in the water in praia botafogo, the brasilians have totally fucked the water and it will never be fixed, they dump raw sewage in the bays, good luck fixing that. ipanema is a little better with open water, but i would never swim there either, not even in barra, think about rocina up that hill. but, to swim in the pool at the apartment complex in tijuca, i had to have a dr. ok me. cost 80r to go in and say hello and have him write me a piece of paper, never even looked at my skin. ok to get in the pool now.
condominiums. they suck, they may be nice inside, but you live behind a fucking gate, same with most apt bldgs, not a great way to live and a shitty way for kids to live. but the weakest link will get robbed, so you got to have it.
florianopolis, i think it had the best massage place in brasil. in the centro, $r80 hr, and killer girls. 2 month is paradise, at least 20 visits. wow. deveno or something, it is on the net. great beaches, lots of blondes, and a much cleaner city than rio. i am amazed how dirty rio gets every night and how clean it is every morning. i lived on praia mole for 1000 reals a month in a hotel studio, with breakfast and laundry included. i walked across the road to the beach. out of season floripa is cheap. the praia at copa is the most disgusting thing you will ever see. every morning, there is a line of trash 2 feet wide along the whole copa beach. the city brings in a tractor and cleans it up every morning, if you see what is in that water you will never swim there. ever. the water in floripa is clean and warm.
copa- copa has kind of gotten fancy, as the old timers know, after about 9pm, it was a ghost town on ave ns, everything but a few kilo places was closed. now the have a some fancy coffee shops and stuff there.
the little corner bar, across from the suco place is now a fancy coffee shop. in 07' copa was not well respected by many carioca's, to full of gdp's for most. the hotel and ave atlantica restaurants were dead most nights. the last time i went there, it was really busy. so i think copa is much more respectable now, so i would not want to live there!
my apartment was 1200r a month, for a one bedroom, about 400usd then, now i think it is about 1200 usd. it is not cheap to live in brasil. i could have bought it for 30k usd. now it is over 100k. the wages of the lower class are getting killed with the price increases. the minimum wage i think is about 600r or about $250 us. you can not buy shit in brasil for this, many things are really expensive, even the local stuff.
govt jobs. working for the government is the best job in brasil. my friends that work there tell me these stories. the longer you work, the less days you show up, after 20 years, maybe one day a week, your salary goes up and your working time goes down, a lot. when you retire, you get full salary for life, plus an extra month of salary, so you get 13 paychecks per year, not 12, for life. i asked him if he like this, not working and getting paid, and he said, i do not, but if you try to change the system, you could get killed by the other 99. 999 percent. he tells me some people get seniority, then get another job, with the government, and get 2 pensions. they never quit the first job, they just do not have to show up anymore. brasil is fucked, the little guys pay for all of this.
partying- in 2007 you could have 5 people and drink like crazy, beers were about $r2. 50 a big bottle, so for $120r reals you could drink 30 bottles (lots of cases) and eat tons of food at a cheap joint in botafogo, all in about $50usd, so for 10 usd you could drnk off your ass and eat great. it was a paradise.
the best for last.
the best girl for me in all of rio was a hotside find, she went by the name of babi. about 5'3', julia roberts smile, pam anderson titties. always happy, always smiling, always laughing. worked in prive near monte carlo. over time i could have bought a cadilac for what i paid her boss, so i hope she got most of it. she did not run the apartment, but was in there alone. she was many times an overnighter at my apt. a 20 min bbbj, no problem, loved to sit on all fours on a chair, with bunda waiting, could not get enough of everything. i see she has two kids now, so i think she has moved on, i hope so.
she was maybe early 20's, best body for sex i ever saw (out of 100's!) i still miss her to this day. wow.
well, this barely scratches the surface of the two years in rio, but it is boring enough. if i think any anything else, i will add more later.
in 2007-2009 rio was an amazing place, and probably was even better before. it is not what it was, but there is still plenty of fun to be had, for sure.
brasil and rio have a lot of problems, but it sure was a fun two years. i do go back once in awhile, but i no longer have the time, or energy to 'smell a *house in a hurricane'.
sorry if this put you to sleep, but there are a few useful tidbits in here as well.
enjoy brasil and have fun. it is an amazing place. even with the problems. the people are great.
tchau
Nice post Ibiza007. Many funny observations; and true.
I could relate to everything in the report. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Poucolouco
02-22-14, 23:43
600 days in Paradise.
TchauSpot on Ibiza. Some may not see the irony of exposing the bare truths of
Rio while still recognizing "a cidade maravilhosa" as Paradise. Thanks for taking the time to write this essay.
I could relate to everything in the report. Thanks for taking the time to share.I can relate to everything as well. Phenomenal post, would have been great to compare notes.
Ibiza007,
Thank you for your report. It is the best report about Rio I have read in a long, long time. Thank you again.
RR
Thanks for the kind words.
It was fun to look back at that time. I apologize, I have the dates wrong. I was in Brasil from 05-07". I am getting way to old, way to fast. I looked back at some of my old posts. But the general info is the same and the places are so outdated it doesn't matter.
I think it brings back a few smiles as to what really was "the good ole days".
Also, if you plan to stay long in Brasil, bring your own ketchup, and leave a bottle where you like to eat, Brasil ketchup is treated like gold, and is not so tasty.
And, I am sorry to say that the upstairs lounge in SP at Kilt is long gone, not sure when they stopped that, but I met an amazing red haired, huge boobed CARIOCA in Kilt, talked her into a session upstairs, in the open tent area, for $R100. Then I saw her a few times in Rio after that. Last time in SP the tent was gone, it is sad.
So, you guys still going often, enjoy these new days, as they will soon be the good old days for the group going now. Enjoy, have fun, and one last piece of info. If she smiles during the lineup, your halfway home.
Exec Talent
02-23-14, 07:45
Also, if you plan to stay long in Brasil, bring your own ketchup, and leave a bottle where you like to eat, Brasil ketchup is treated like gold, and is not so tasty.Add my kudos to the list. Great report.
Heinz ketchup is now sold everywhere including Mundial. Price has come down too.
AltoBomGosto
02-23-14, 10:53
Thanks for the kind words.
It was fun to look back at that time. I apologize, I have the dates wrong. I was in Brasil from 05-07". I am getting way to old, way to fast. I looked back at some of my old posts. But the general info is the same and the places are so outdated it doesn't matter.
I think it brings back a few smiles as to what really was "the good ole days".
Also, if you plan to stay long in Brasil, bring your own ketchup, and leave a bottle where you like to eat, Brasil ketchup is treated like gold, and is not so tasty.
And, I am sorry to say that the upstairs lounge in SP at Kilt is long gone, not sure when they stopped that, but I met an amazing red haired, huge boobed CARIOCA in Kilt, talked her into a session upstairs, in the open tent area, for $R100. Then I saw her a few times in Rio after that. Last time in SP the tent was gone, it is sad.
So, you guys still going often, enjoy these new days, as they will soon be the good old days for the group going now. Enjoy, have fun, and one last piece of info. If she smiles during the lineup, your halfway home.Ibiza, the old Kilt Club was demolished by the Prefeitura, the new place has absolutly nothing to do with the little castle.
Not worth going to the actual place!
Poucolouco
02-23-14, 18:29
Thanks for the kind words.
Also, if you plan to stay long in Brasil, bring your own ketchup, and leave a bottle where you like to eat, Brasil ketchup is treated like gold, and is not so tasty.Another useful item to carry is a pocket-size pepper mill. Many restaurants do not have black pepper, or pimenta do reino. Ask for pepper and you will receive red pepper salsa.
Mr Enternational
02-23-14, 19:24
A buddy of mine used to leave his own hot sauce at Meia Pataca.
Eric Cartman
02-25-14, 02:29
600 days in Paradise.
Hello to all, This is Ibiza007.
TchauThanks for taking the time to post. All I can say is that while there still are some thing that ring true in your post, the majority of items (especially P4P) have changed a lot since 2009. I wouldn't recognize some things you wrote, and I've lived here full time since Autumn of 2010.
Brazil: always changing, never moving forward. LOL.
The decline of high quality GDPs in Rio is the most obvious result of the past 3+ years of economic policies. Plus the rise in prices.
I just heard on CNN that Disney raised the daily price to $99.
So, it is not just Brazil where entertainment prices are rising.
For around $40 usd you can still have fun in Rio, about 30 euros! You will not find anything comparable in Europe for 30 euros.
Enjoy Rio
Finnish Fucker
02-25-14, 17:52
For around $40 usd you can still have fun in Rio, about 30 euros! You will not find anything comparable in Europe for 30 euros.True, we have to pay at least 50€ to fuck pretty slim girls in brothels all around Europe. Such a horror!
And to high class German FKK clubs you have to pay 60-70€ entrance + 50 € for a fuck. That simply sucks.
I wonder why so many americanos fly all the way to Germany to fuck while they could have low cost pussy in Brazil or DR with much shorter and probably cheaper flight.
True, we have to pay at least 50€ to fuck pretty slim girls in brothels all around Europe. Such a horror!
And to high class German FKK clubs you have to pay 60-70€ entrance + 50 € for a fuck. That simply sucks.
I wonder why so many americanos fly all the way to Germany to fuck while they could have low cost pussy in Brazil or DR with much shorter and probably cheaper flight.Keppana.
What are the best options in Europe for 30'euros, without SW involved? I am not looking to be critical, the fkk's look totally fantastic and 50'euros is not much.
Maybe this should be moved out of the Rio thread, as it may get off topic.
Cheers
Finnish Fucker
02-25-14, 19:21
What are the best options in Europe for 30'euros, without SW involved?Sorry, not intended to be over sarcastic with my previous post.
Well the best option in Europe for 30€ is to get into a bar, drink yourself handsome and witty and try to bag a freebie :cool: P4P requires at least 50€.
Looking back now my recent trip to Rio I realised that I overpaid quite badly for my pussy. Live and learn.
Cheers, Kepp
Kepp
What I was trying to point out is that Rio is not what it was, but it is all not doom and gloom. It will always be great place to have fun.
I have a few trips to Europe later this year, and it looks like Germany, Spain, Portugal or Czech rep look like the best options. I read in some other forums in other countries and it does not look great, maybe Austria as well. I have to leave EE countries out of the research. Spain looks full of Brasilians if I get the itch. NL looks pricey.
I will go to Germany for sure, looks fantastic. I went there often in the 80's and did not know shit about the fkk's, boy was I an idiot.
Cheers
I have a few trips to Europe later this year, and it looks like Germany, Spain, Portugal or Czech rep look like the best options. I read in some other forums in other countries and it does not look great, maybe Austria as well. I have to leave EE countries out of the research. Spain looks full of Brasilians if I get the itch. NL looks pricey.Pound for pound Spain is my favorite place in Europe. Of course, Germany is excellent with its FKK scene. The Czech Republic is an outstanding tourist destination but cannot compete with places like Spain, Germany, Brazil, Thailand or even Costa Rica for mongering in my opinion. The Netherlands is vastly overrated by the "general public" (mongers know the truth) , and I have not been to Portugal. Maybe one day I will make it there too. I saw on Anthony Bourdain that they make a mean suckling pig for dinner over there LOL!
Sorry, not intended to be over sarcastic with my previous post.
Well the best option in Europe for 30€ is to get into a bar, drink yourself handsome and witty and try to bag a freebie :cool: P4P requires at least 50€.
Looking back now my recent trip to Rio I realised that I overpaid quite badly for my pussy. Live and learn.
Cheers, KeppIt would be nice to get the thread back onto Rio please. I have paid 25€ in Europe and also 50Rs (about 15€) in Rio, both recently. No-one denies that Brasil, and especiually Rio, is becoming more expensive. But most of the posters actually prefer the expensive venues. I worry more about my hotel or motel bill than p4p prices. I drink good tequila at reasonable prices as it is my preference, not because it is the cheapest way to become drunk, and likewise I come to Brasil mostly because I like the place. Why come to Rio and not Sao Paulo? Because Rio is a fun capital, in or out of a hottie.
Don't worry if you overpaid a bit. I think everyone has until they learn how to pay less (of course, this is not even a worry for some people).
Hello Christo.
You're are correct, I took that thread off target, desculpa.
But, I do have a few observations about living in Brazil that will be more appropriate for this thread.
I once saw a car wreck on Ave. Atlantica that required police and fire dept. As the crowd of onlookers built up to about 20 or more, sure enough, a guy shows up with a cooler of beer. Properly taped up of course. And starts barking out SKOL, SKOL. It is so nice of the vendors to make sure that no one goes thirsty on the Praia. If the crowd had hit 30, there would have been a bottle of Johnny Walker Red and some red bull.
Also, I have a friend that lives in Fortaleza. He is an architect and also is a lawyer. At one time he was helping a Portuguese client develop some land in the area. We were talking and he was loudly complaining about Brasil and the corruption and the problems, etc. He said he hated the corruption in Brasil. But, not even 5 minutes later I was asking him about the Portuguese guys and what he was doing for them. And he told me he was helping get them permits. I asked him if there many difficulties with the process and he said."No. I know who to pay to get the proper permits". What the fuck!
Cheers
600 days in Paradise.
Hello to all, This is Ibiza007.
Escritorios. They are a necessary evil in life in Brasil. A place full of note cards that takes forever to get anything done for a lot of money. I hope they never have a fire.
Banks- The slowest places on earth, six people can take an hour. Because people pay their water bill, and phone bill at the bank. Banks are for money, not bills. Tip, pay bills in a downstairs lotteria, no lines.
TchauWhat is an Escritorios?
Can you pay your Water, Electricity, Cable, Telephone, etc. Online?
What is an Escritorios?
Can you pay your Water, Electricity, Cable, Telephone, etc. Online?Hi,
Try this link and google translate it.
http://www.escritoriobrasil.com.br/
I would think you can now, but depends on the bank. Do you live in Brasil now? If yes, you know banks are real hit and miss on what happens, and how well they work.
This is another example of how things work in Brasil. I had a Net Virtua internet and tv connection. When I moved out of the apartment, I had to return the modem and cable TV box. I thought, no problem. Well, it is Brasil, so I called and asked about returning the equipment or if they could pick it up. No pickup, So, I asked where the nearest drop off point was? Recreio, which if you do not know is a long fucking ways from Copa. In a city of 5mm +, the nearest drop off was in fucking Recreio. It cost me over $R80 for the taxi to take the box back. It was not an easy place to get to by bus, and I did not have a lot of time before I moved. If you live there, get used to this stuff.
Have fun.
I want to travel with Sperto for 2 weeks! He sure is having fun.
Ibiza
Beach Star
02-28-14, 23:20
Hi,
Try this link and google translate it.
http://www.escritoriobrasil.com.br/
I would think you can now, but depends on the bank. Do you live in Brasil now? If yes, you know banks are real hit and miss on what happens, and how well they work.
IbizaThe link doesn't work for me. I am curious as to what you mean. I have lived in Rio, on and off, for over 30 years and have no idea what you are talking about. Nice stories from your times staying in Rio BTW.
Exec Talent
03-01-14, 01:38
What is an Escritorios?
Can you pay your Water, Electricity, Cable, Telephone, etc. Online?There are a couple of ways to pay your bills similar to the US except dealing with anything Brazilian is a royal pain.
You can pay the accounts pushing the money from your bank or pay it on the utility site and pull the funds from the bank.
I am shocked that there are not more suicides in Brazil because the more I deal with Brazilian inefficiency the more I want to kill myself.
The link doesn't work for me. I am curious as to what you mean. I have lived in Rio, on and off, for over 30 years and have no idea what you are talking about. Nice stories from your times staying in Rio BTW.Hi, I think it was confusing because Bravo asked two questions. One about Escritorios, and the other about paying bills, and they are not related. As for paying bills, I would think you can pay online now.
Beach Star - I think Escritorios is the correct name, this is what I called them. Your Portuguese seems very good, so you probably know better than me. By the way, were you there during the military ruled days? What was that like? How was it then for gringos?
Bravo picked up the mention I had about escritorios in my long post. If you have anything official to register, such as a marriage license or hundreds of other official documents, they have to be registered officially. Similar to recording a document at a US courthouse. At that time escritorios used "hand written cards", no computer systems to record this stuff. They had thousands and thousands of hand written document in these offices. I have no idea how one would go about searching these things, or how they would cross reference if you had to search them. They are locally placed, in Barrios.
I had to register some documents over the two years, and I was amazed how "non-computer " oriented these places are. Most Brasilians will have used this for something official.
Hope this helps. I was just amazed at what could happen if they had fire in one of these offices. It looked like the 1960's courthouse in there.
Cheers.
Ibiza
Eric Cartman
03-01-14, 05:37
Hi, I think it was confusing because Bravo asked two questions. One about Escritorios, and the other about paying bills, and they are not related. As for paying bills, I would think you can pay online now.
Beach Star. I think Escritorios is the correct name, this is what I called them. Your Portuguese seems very good, so you probably know better than me. By the way, were you there during the military ruled days? What was that like? How was it then for gringos?
Bravo picked up the mention I had about escritorios in my long post. If you have anything official to register, such as a marriage license or hundreds of other official documents, they have to be registered officially. Similar to recording a document at a US courthouse. At that time escritorios used "hand written cards", no computer systems to record this stuff. They had thousands and thousands of hand written document in these offices. I have no idea how one would go about searching these things, or how they would cross reference if you had to search them. They are locally placed, in Barrios.
I had to register some documents over the two years, and I was amazed how "non-computer " oriented these places are. Most Brasilians will have used this for something official.
Hope this helps. I was just amazed at what could happen if they had fire in one of these offices. It looked like the 1960's courthouse in there.
Cheers.
IbizaBeen living here for more than 3 years and never heard of "escritorios." On the other hand,"cartorios" yes. Do you mean cartorios?
Been living here for more than 3 years and never heard of "escritorios." On the other hand,"cartorios" yes. Do you mean cartorios?I think you are right. I probably never had the name right. Thanks. Escritorios are offices, correct? Do cartorios operate like a 1960's courthouse? Full of drawers of papers?
Thanks
Exec Talent
03-01-14, 13:39
Another area which is often confusing to foreigners in Brazil is when someone says they have a dirty name (it is not what you think).
Nome Sujo means you have not paid your bills and when you go to buy something your purchase is declined. For Brazilians who buy everything on credit making payments it is a serious problem.
A few years back, I remember going with a Brazilian friend who was trying to clear his girlfriend's name. We ran around Centro paying off this bill one place and that bill another place. There was no central credit bureau or bureaus which listed everything. That is starting to change as you can see in these links.
http://www.experianplc.com/news/company-news/2012/23-10-2012.aspx
http://www.serasaexperian.com.br/
http://cpf.org.br/
BTW, hooking up with non-pros is easy in comparison to navigating the labyrinth of Brazil bureaucracy and poorly designed information systems.
Eric Cartman
03-01-14, 14:46
I think you are right. I probably never had the name right. Thanks. Escritorios are offices, correct? Do cartorios operate like a 1960's courthouse? Full of drawers of papers?
ThanksYes. Cartorios are kind of a mafia. They charge to do the simplest things, like put a sticker on a simple xerox copy to "authenticate" it. Theoretically they are supposed to compare the document to the original. But they just show up, charge you R$5, 00 per sticker, and get to work. Same with "recognizing" signatures. It's just a joke. Apparently for the longest time you could only own a cartorio if you were of Portuguese descent, and it just was a massive cash flow prize to keep the bureacracy flowing and keep "chosen ones" in the dough.
Banco do Brasil will drive you crazy too. I had to wire larger sums of money about three or four times a year (over $5k each time) , and every time I had to call my personal bank and have them chase the wire down, as Banco do Brasil would hold the money as long as possible. Never once did it go thru without me sending a request to find out about the delay.
I am not sure, but I think all wires come thru Banco do Brasil before hitting your desired bank in Brasil, so they can skim a little off every wire.
But, it is still a great place, even though completely fucked up in many ways.
Got a haircut last month for R$12. Went last Tuesday to the same place. Same haircut was now $R20.
Got a haircut last month for R$12. Went last Tuesday to the same place. Same haircut was now $R20.But at least you get a first class haircut, and Rs20 is hardly expensive. I usually go to the place on Prado Júnior. There's an excellent padaria just opposite that doesn't give you indigestion or food poisoning.
Got a haircut last month for R$12. Went last Tuesday to the same place. Same haircut was now $R20.I remember the place I went was all men, and they gave you a very nice Playboy to browse while they cut your hair. It seemed to be that traditional barbers were all men, and I seem to remember more barbers than clients.
Cheers
Papi Muy Rico
04-05-14, 22:21
Where or from who can I get these food stuff:
Premium quality beef franks for hotdogs or beef franks of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.
Quality beef patties for hamburgers, or beef patties of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.
Mustard, spicy mustard, relish of good quality.
Hot dog and hamburger buns of good quality.
Maybe suggestion on Brazilian brands of good quality.
All information greatly appreciated.
Exec Talent
04-06-14, 00:36
Where or from who can I get these food stuff:
Premium quality beef franks for hotdogs or beef franks of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.
Quality beef patties for hamburgers, or beef patties of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.
Mustard, spicy mustard, relish of good quality.
Hot dog and hamburger buns of good quality.
Maybe suggestion on Brazilian brands of good quality.
All information greatly appreciated.Heinz Ketchup and Mustard are available at most supermarkets in Rio.
I prefer Prezunic in Botafogo for hamburger meat.
http://v2.prezunic.com.br/
On Wednesday (maybe other days also) they will grind it to order. You pick out the meat.
You also could just ask them for carne moida limpa (lean).
Hamburger in Brazil means the frozen patties which are similar to what they serve at Bob's.
If you need more details, info, PM me.
AltoBomGosto
04-07-14, 11:34
Where or from who can I get these food stuff:
Premium quality beef franks for hotdogs or beef franks of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.
Quality beef patties for hamburgers, or beef patties of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.
Mustard, spicy mustard, relish of good quality.
Hot dog and hamburger buns of good quality.
Maybe suggestion on Brazilian brands of good quality.
All information greatly appreciated.In São Paulo look into Bassi and Wessel, both have good meet supplies.
Casa Santa Luzia and galeria dos Pães, both in Jardins, will have all the spices you're looking for.
Papi Muy Rico
04-07-14, 21:42
For this reason I was thinking of a supermarket or store chain in the whole country. Also, an country-wide specific brand will help.
Thanks for your help
Papi Muy Rico
04-07-14, 21:43
Heinz Ketchup and Mustard are available at most supermarkets in Rio.
I prefer Prezunic in Botafogo for hamburger meat.
http://v2.prezunic.com.br/
On Wednesday (maybe other days also) they will grind it to order. You pick out the meat.
You also could just ask them for carne moida limpa (lean).
Hamburger in Brazil means the frozen patties which are similar to what they serve at Bob's.
If you need more details, info, PM me.For this reason I was thinking of a supermarket or store chain in the whole country. Also, an country-wide specific brand will help.
Thanks for your help
DJ FourMoney
04-07-14, 22:26
Banco do Brasil will drive you crazy too. I had to wire larger sums of money about three or four times a year (over $5k each time) , and every time I had to call my personal bank and have them chase the wire down, as Banco do Brasil would hold the money as long as possible. Never once did it go thru without me sending a request to find out about the delay.
I am not sure, but I think all wires come thru Banco do Brasil before hitting your desired bank in Brasil, so they can skim a little off every wire.
But, it is still a great place, even though completely fucked up in many ways.Bitcoin, Quark, Lite would be much better.
For this reason I was thinking of a supermarket or store chain in the whole country. Also, an country-wide specific brand will help.
Thanks for your helpYou need those items in Manaus. That might be hard to find. Most capitals in Brazil have some delicacy shops with imported food etc. In Manaus I can think of none. In centro of Manaus Carrefour would be your best option. Maybe Amazonas Shopping have what you're looking for? It could be that some of the middle / upperclass bairros have delicacy shops?
AltoBomGosto
04-08-14, 10:41
For this reason I was thinking of a supermarket or store chain in the whole country. Also, an country-wide specific brand will help.
Thanks for your helpMaybe Carrefour Manaus will be the place.
Today, I tried to book a return flight from São Paulo to Ilheus with Gol. The lowest fare in the next 2 weeks was about 2400R$!
Shit!
I guess I will come back to Brazil only when the World Cup is over.
Exec Talent
04-25-14, 16:31
http://mmkt.guiademoteis.com.br/Campanha/Mailing/1Hna27___xf0o=
If you are looking for a discount on love motels a site worth subscribing to is:
www.guiademoteis.com.br
They regular send out email offers or you can periodically visit their site.
Papi Muy Rico
04-25-14, 23:07
Maybe Carrefour Manaus will be the place.I'll check it out. But never saw high quality there, maybe I wasn't paying attention.
AltoBomGosto
04-26-14, 12:48
I'll check it out. But never saw high quality there, maybe I wasn't paying attention.I know that those items are not easy to get in Manaus!
Exec Talent
05-01-14, 14:47
Housing Market.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27218510
Elections.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-27233276
Popularity slipping? Show them the money.
DJ FourMoney
05-16-14, 01:44
Housing Market.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27218510
Elections.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-27233276
Popularity slipping? Show them the money.About Housing, everywhere in Latin America is in a real estate bubble. Just wait and scoop up property cheap..
Exec Talent
05-25-14, 19:51
www.venancio.com.br
Significant savings on most items. Also stock many more items than most pharmacies in Rio. Various locations.
www.venancio.com.br
Significant savings on most items. Also stock many more items than most pharmacies in Rio. Various locations.Another option is Pacheco. I paid around are R$20 for generic Vit see in April.
Exec Talent
05-26-14, 14:56
Another option is Pacheco. I paid around are R$20 for generic Vit see in April.I would not have wasted my time posting if this was just another pharmacy (which is all Pacheco is). It is a discount pharmacy.
I would not have wasted my time posting if this was just another pharmacy (which is all Pacheco is). It is a discount pharmacy.I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I was just trying to provide some information which may be of use to others by quoting a price I paid recently.
About Housing, everywhere in Latin America is in a real estate bubble. Just wait and scoop up property cheap..I was discussing this issue with a good friend just last week. His thoughts were "Most rich people are very intelligent, You don't become wealthy by being an idiot. So if they are willing to spend money buying up property, wouldn't it makes sense that they know what they are doing? They aren't going to spend millions on apartments in Copa and Ipanema if they think that once the Games are over, that the property value will plummet.".
I really didn't have a response to that because it makes alot of sense. Maybe they know something that we don't know.
Exec Talent
06-01-14, 22:32
I was discussing this issue with a good friend just last week. His thoughts were "Most rich people are very intelligent, You don't become wealthy by being an idiot. So if they are willing to spend money buying up property, wouldn't it makes sense that they know what they are doing? They aren't going to spend millions on apartments in Copa and Ipanema if they think that once the Games are over, that the property value will plummet. ".
I really didn't have a response to that because it makes alot of sense. Maybe they know something that we don't know.In the usual fashion, Brazilians have and are screwing themselves.
They are asking for such outrageous rents on commercial buildings that companies are abandoning entire buildings right and left. I walk a lot around Rio and am amazed at the number of buildings for sale or lease. A few years back I was interested in the Kiosks on the beach. At that time they wanted are $225,000 for five years and you still had to pay rent and utilities. Then the government decided that even more palms should be greased and turned the administration over to a private company who then was charging are $400,000 for five years. As a result, most operators closed and the Copa beach is dominated by corporations that can write the investment off as advertising and lose money on operations. You also will notice that there is only one brand of cachaça, Ypioca, allowed to be sold.
Every once in awhile I meet a bright light here, but most of the time Brazilians operate in the darkness. The majority have a very selfish what is in it for me attitude which is what holds them back.
On another note, if you are coming to Brazil and staying at a private apartment be sure that your bed lines and towels are clean. I have been getting reports that turnover is so tight that those renting rooms and apartments are not changing towels and bed sheets.
Exec Talent
07-13-14, 18:05
In my neighborhood in Zona Sul, it has been very quiet both day and night. Today, with the World Cup ending music is once again playing and people are once again smiling. The streets in Copa are crowded with drunk Argentinians. Most Brazilians I talk with are looking for German shirts to wear today. There really is no love lost. Brazilian women, in particular, hate their snobbish neighbors to the south.
In my neighborhood in Zona Sul, it has been very quiet both day and night. Today, with the World Cup ending music is once again playing and people are once again smiling. The streets in Copa are crowded with drunk Argentinians. Most Brazilians I talk with are looking for German shirts to wear today. There really is no love lost. Brazilian women, in particular, hate their snobbish neighbors to the south.I was in Angra this weekend Once Germany won the game, I really believe the fireworks that were intended for brazil (which never happenned) were used to celebrate Argentina's loss or Germany's win. Whatever floats your boat. Definitely, no love lost.
The majority have a very selfish what is in it for me attitude which is what holds them back.I think the nature of the economy is a barrier to many ordinary Brasilians. Yet just this week I have encountered both incredible generosity and very hardboiled conniving. It's hard to keep level-headed sometimes. One warm-hearted individual does tend to make up somewhat for a dozen c-u-n-*-s. And make me feel better about the world.
I think the nature of the economy is a barrier to many ordinary Brasilians. Yet just this week I have encountered both incredible generosity and very hardboiled conniving. It's hard to keep level-headed sometimes. One warm-hearted individual does tend to make up somewhat for a dozen c-u-n-*-s. And make me feel better about the world.With all do respect buddy, I don't blame you both for such views but trust me I lived in both the US and UK for an aggregate of 2 decades. Mind you i love both nations to BITS and their people. Put the average person of those in Brazilian shoes and I would bet my life these Brazilian "assholes" would be ANGELS in comparision.
Last night my Turkish looking half Iraqi / Syrian ass got invited to a block party just outside a Favela. Felt so welcome with zero language and handing over my brand new S5 to google translate to communicate. Hell a lot of them before approaching me even thought I was Argentinian, yet all was super cool. Perspective my friend ALWAYS. Got to at least "attempt" to put your self in the other shoes. Trust me we all products of our enviroment. And in such "tropical heaven" no matter how suffering such beauty will rub in.
I was wondering how much of a good / bad idea it would be to rent an apartment in a favela in Rio (probably Rocinha). The beach in So Conrado, which I read is only a 15 min or so walk downhill from the favela, seems like literally one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen in my life (looks better than Ipanema). So I was just wondering how safe it would be. I know Rocinha is one of the safest favela's. Also, would girls have any problem coming back to an apartment in a favela (if they're not from a favela (or that favela)? Would website girls come to the favela (especially the more "upscale" girls)?. It just seems SO much cheaper than getting an apartment in Rio proper, especially since I'm looking to hang out for a month (and the monthly rents in Rocinha seem very reasonable. With full kitchens and everything I'd need).
Also, there's the issue of ATM machines. I know there are ATM machines in the favela, but it seems like a risky thing. Or is it? Would it be better just get one's money needed all at once somewhere else in Rio first?. Would I have to realistically worry about someone breaking into the apartment once people quickly learn there's a gringo staying there?
What is the P4P scene. Is there one? I mean is there like Vila Mimosa type area within the favela?. Is it just easy enough to find a girl at some funk party? I assume the girls that live there don't want to get a bad reputation and maybe they venture out of the favela to do their "business".
I was wondering how much of a good / bad idea it would be to rent an apartment in a favela in Rio (probably Rocinha). The beach in So Conrado, which I read is only a 15 min or so walk downhill from the favela, seems like literally one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen in my life (looks better than Ipanema). So I was just wondering how safe it would be. I know Rocinha is one of the safest favela's. Also, would girls have any problem coming back to an apartment in a favela (if they're not from a favela (or that favela)? Would website girls come to the favela (especially the more "upscale" girls)?. It just seems SO much cheaper than getting an apartment in Rio proper, especially since I'm looking to hang out for a month (and the monthly rents in Rocinha seem very reasonable. With full kitchens and everything I'd need).
.Some interesting questions, I am curious to see what the responses will be.
Exec Talent
07-28-14, 04:17
I guess you could call me a frequent favela visitor and have been to most of them as well as to various areas of the North zone. Gringos living in favelas is now pretty common. Even before the pacification, hostels had opened up in favelas. The key is to go with the flow and get along. Notice who likes to be social and who doesn't. Keep your nose in your own business. Do not discuss your comings and goings and tell no one when you will be leaving. Don't know if escort or Balcony girls will go there and even if they would how cool it would be to be known as the gringo who is here to bang chicks. Do be aware that many of the girls are younger than they appear. The last thing you want to do is hit on some drug dealer's little sister.
You might also want to consider Niteroi. I lived with a girl there and was treated very well by the locals.
I was wondering how much of a good / bad idea it would be to rent an apartment in a favela in Rio (probably Rocinha). The beach in So Conrado, which I read is only a 15 min or so walk downhill from the favela, seems like literally one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen in my life (looks better than Ipanema). So I was just wondering how safe it would be. I know Rocinha is one of the safest favela's. Also, would girls have any problem coming back to an apartment in a favela (if they're not from a favela (or that favela)? Would website girls come to the favela (especially the more "upscale" girls)?. It just seems SO much cheaper than getting an apartment in Rio proper, especially since I'm looking to hang out for a month (and the monthly rents in Rocinha seem very reasonable. With full kitchens and everything I'd need).
Also, there's the issue of ATM machines. I know there are ATM machines in the favela, but it seems like a risky thing. Or is it? Would it be better just get one's money needed all at once somewhere else in Rio first?. Would I have to realistically worry about someone breaking into the apartment once people quickly learn there's a gringo staying there?
What is the P4P scene. Is there one? I mean is there like Vila Mimosa type area within the favela?. Is it just easy enough to find a girl at some funk party? I assume the girls that live there don't want to get a bad reputation and maybe they venture out of the favela to do their "business".There are safer favelas than Rocinha. Vidigal would be a better option if you want to enjoy a good view and a nice beach. If the favela is pacified the girl wouldn't have any real problems coming or leaving, but she might not be very happy going there. Upscale girl escort girl won't go there.
Forget P4 P in the favelas. There are lots of flirty girls in the favelas, but you better be very careful when flirting with girls inside the favela or you might get yourself into serious trouble.
Mr Enternational
07-28-14, 07:06
Usually people hope to get out of the hood. This guy wants to move INTO the hood. Boy I tell you the truth is stranger than fiction.
Usually people hope to get out of the hood. This guy wants to move INTO the hood. Boy I tell you the truth is stranger than fiction.
The last years when I've been in Rio I stayed in a favela in Zona Sul. At least two months each trip. I love it.
The advantages I get when staying in this favela are several:
* Cheap accommodation.
* All the necessities like Wifi, cable-TV etc.
* Fantastic views.
* Terrace on the roof. Great for churrascos and parties.
* Safety. I feel totally safe there. Before the favela was pacified there were some armed bandits. Quite harmless though. Now there are a lot of UPP police. The last years there have been very few shoot-outs.
* The people. Almost without exceptions the people are very friendly, helpful, polite and generous. Everybody knows everybody.
* I've never had any bad experience of being a gringo. On the contrary.
* The girls. Tons of beautiful girls. The majority very flirty, the young ones as well as the old ones.
* The food. Lots of options for eating. Giant R$4-burgers, great sushi and even a prize-winning restaurant.
* Many small bars, some with live-bands and dancing.
* Big parties, bailles, every now and then.
* Lots of options for working out. Gym, MMA, Muay Thai, Capoeira and aerobics.
* Excellent exercise going up- and downhills a couple of times every day.
* Micos. Lots of small cute wild monkeys coming to visit your home hoping to get some fruits.
* 7 minutes quick walk and I'm on the beach. On the bike even less.
* You have the options of combi and moto-taxi to get uphills (I personally boycott those as I refuse to pay when I can walk).
The disadvantages:
* Even though there are basic food stuff to be bought in the favela you'll have to do most of the shopping down in Copacabana.
* It can be sweaty walking uphills with your shoppingbags when the sun is strong.
* Everybody knows everybody. It can also be a bad thing as people will know everything you're up to, e.g if you're being with different girls.
* The girls. Mess with more than one girl and you'll have a big jealousy drama.
* The girls. Many flirty girls have boyfriends. If you don't know which ones you'll get an enemy.
* Safety. Shoot-outs happens even though quite rare. This year the police shot one bandit right outside my door (an outside-bandit).
Finally I can't say I recommend staying in a favela if you're down for a short mongering trip. It will be more convenient renting an apartment in Copacabana. I never brought a GP to the favela. The locals would immediately recognize her being a puta and that would ruin my good reputation. :)
PatmarBeleza1
07-30-14, 01:58
So how does one go about getting the accomodation that you stayed in?
http://www.mulattahostel.com/#!home / mainPage.
A search for vidigal hostels turns up some hostels such as those, above. But a love motel is cheaper pernoite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAisOJvLLU8
Is this the view on the way to your place of residence?
The last years when I've been in Rio I stayed in a favela in Zona Sul. At least two months each trip. I love it.
The advantages I get when staying in this favela are several:
* Cheap accommodation.
* All the necessities like Wifi, cable-TV etc.
* Fantastic views.
* Terrace on the roof. Great for churrascos and parties.
* Safety. I feel totally safe there. Before the favela was pacified there were some armed bandits. Quite harmless though. Now there are a lot of UPP police. The last years there have been very few shoot-outs.
* The people. Almost without exceptions the people are very friendly, helpful, polite and generous. Everybody knows everybody.
* I've never had any bad experience of being a gringo. On the contrary.
* The girls. Tons of beautiful girls. The majority very flirty, the young ones as well as the old ones.
* The food. Lots of options for eating. Giant R$4-burgers, great sushi and even a prize-winning restaurant.
* Many small bars, some with live-bands and dancing.
* Big parties, bailles, every now and then.
* Lots of options for working out. Gym, MMA, Muay Thai, Capoeira and aerobics.
* Excellent exercise going up- and downhills a couple of times every day.
* Micos. Lots of small cute wild monkeys coming to visit your home hoping to get some fruits.
* 7 minutes quick walk and I'm on the beach. On the bike even less.
* You have the options of combi and moto-taxi to get uphills (I personally boycott those as I refuse to pay when I can walk).
The disadvantages:
* Even though there are basic food stuff to be bought in the favela you'll have to do most of the shopping down in Copacabana.
* It can be sweaty walking uphills with your shoppingbags when the sun is strong.
* Everybody knows everybody. It can also be a bad thing as people will know everything you're up to, e.g if you're being with different girls.
* The girls. Mess with more than one girl and you'll have a big jealousy drama.
* The girls. Many flirty girls have boyfriends. If you don't know which ones you'll get an enemy.
* Safety. Shoot-outs happens even though quite rare. This year the police shot one bandit right outside my door (an outside-bandit).
Finally I can't say I recommend staying in a favela if you're down for a short mongering trip. It will be more convenient renting an apartment in Copacabana. I never brought a GP to the favela. The locals would immediately recognize her being a puta and that would ruin my good reputation. :)
So how does one go about getting the accomodation that you stayed in?
http://www.mulattahostel.com/#!home / mainPage.
A search for vidigal hostels turns up some hostels such as those, above. But a love motel is cheaper pernoite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAisOJvLLU8
Is this the view on the way to your place of residence?
"So how does one go about getting the accomodation that you stayed in?" Do you seriously think I'm that stupid that I'll give up my place on this forum?
I never stay in hostels, but there are lots of them in most Zona Sul favelas. What I heard they are quite expensive.
Nice view of Vidigal. No, I didn't stay in Vidigal.
Without connections it's not easy to find a nice accomodation at a good rate in a nice Zona Sul favela. You'll have a lot of competition from brazilians looking for a place to stay.
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