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Paristokyo

08-27-05, 09:39

Hi Guys, and thanks for this great forum.

Well I am a happy monger too here in Japan. A few months ago, went to a health salon where I met this beautiful 21 year old chick, beautiful face, with a body to die for, excellent bbbj techniques (I didn't know you can put that much saliva in a mouth) and very tender.

She was really my kind of girl, and we had much fun together. Met her again, and this time she let me fuck her (which is forbidden at any health salon). she seemed to like me (I am 26, quite nice) and when we took a shower, she asked me where I go out usually for drinks, then we should go and drink together! After this, she gave me her keitai adress (and I give mine)

I thought well this beautiful girl will never reply anyway, it was just teasing for me to come back and be a regular customer. But before I got home, whe already sent an email to me. And actually since them, we write to each other everyday, and she even bought a French dictionnary to learn my language! So actually, think I am falling in love with her.

But too bad because: I have a gf (even if not too happy with her) and I am not sure I want to date someone whose job is to suck (really well) cocks all day long...but she is so great, and I can't take her out of my mind

So guys, has this happened to any of you? any advice on how to deal with this situation? Do you think she is fooling me? Thanks for your kind advice, and let's keep having fun!

Lubricate It

08-28-05, 22:15

PT

Basically Japanese girls usually have rather expensive tastes. They like brand clothes and the Louis Vuitton and the Le Sac. They like good restaurants and overseas travel and they have a hefty cellphone bill each month. They feel they need to keep up with other girls in their expenditure.

So if they weren't able to get a good job after leaving school, cock sucking is an acceptable alternative to be able to support the lifestyle. Perhaps there is not so much stigma against it here. A lot of highschool girls will try cock sucking in Shibuya at some stage, to support their clothing purchases at the 109 store, for example. Their friends do it, they do it, why not? The BJ shop operators hang around the entrance of 109 to sign up recruits. So I wouldn't let that be too offputting for you.

The other point to be made is that getting into a long-term (eg marriage) relationship with a foreigner has become fashionable again, FOR SOME. Foreign men are seen as a status symbol, as well as offering a relationship free from some of the local downsides.

So my hunch in this case is that she's for real in her interest in you, with long-term potential (Japanese girls are usually good value in this regard). Whether or not she continues with the cock-sucking job (if this bothers you) would probably depend on how much financial or accommodation-type support you are able to provide. If you really like her that much, why not offer to start living together on condition she finds another job?

Endowed

08-29-05, 04:28

Paris-Tokyo
You are in a similar situation to what I had several years ago but with a 26YO DH/
Many of the Health girls are your girl next door type and some are using it as a way to meet a man with money. There are some Tokyo agencies that specialize in serving western guys for large sums and they tout to the women that work there that it is a great chance to meet a western executive for a LTR. I even met a girl that said to me (with a sincere look) that she was working to get used to western cocks so when she found a western guy she liked, then she would have no problem accomodating him. I immediately signed up for that duty! She would meet me outside of service, go to dinner, stay all night, breakfast and then off to regular job.
Actually the DH girls are a gold mine of nampa if you can get past the initial charge and get them liking you and obviously you have that knack
If you do not respond to her, she will soon lose interest and move on. To find out if she is really interested in you do not offer her any extraordinary sums of money or gifts. She may even buy you small gifts and then you will have a good thing going. Lubricates suggestion is good if you don't like her working. I would prefer a girl that has the experiance of sucking lots of cocks and getting good at it to one that doesn't even like it. As long as they don't pick anything up.
Also, look at it this way, if she got another job and you met her in a bar a year from now and did not know her past experiance would you not be her BF? Kind of like buying a used car. If the oil looks clean it does not make much difference, it may have been changed yesterday.
just my 2 en

Evan Stoner

08-29-05, 12:45

Paris,

First things first: where is this health salon? Details please.

On to your question. First of all, have you actually met her outside of work? If not, you are not in love with her (yet) but you could be in love with the bbbj. You should first set up a meeting outside of work. She sounds sincere, which is more likely with a chick as young as 21. Don't even think about the brand and gifts angle, just try to play it straight with her. Buy her dinner or pay for the hotel, but don't go nuts. See what she's like, teach her some French, have some fun, but don't convince yourself you are in love with her just yet. It could be a cool time for you, although honestly it probably won't last forever.

I have had great times with two girls from a health salon. One, who had a great shaved pussy and lived with her boyfriend, used to come over to my apartment, bring me bottles of great sake (my favorite), and fuck my brains out. The other one actually came to visit me (her expense) for a couple of weeks when I left Japan and lived overseas for a couple of years. Great tits too. You really miss the Japanese girls after you leave Japan for a while (sigh). Others I've gone out with to clubs, took to Disneyland in the afternoon and then fucked in the evening (Chinese massage girl, never saw her again). Some girls have strict rules about meeting customers after work. In my experience, wait for them to get clearly interested in you before you even mention meeting them outside of work, because the oyaji customers do the same thing to them all day long. You've got to use what makes you different as your angle: your "high nose", your height, your hair color, your hairy chest, or your big cock, whatever. Once you start acting lice all the other lecherous idiots, you've lost your edge.

Anyway, Paris, you still seem to have that edge. So don't waste it. Let us know how it goes.

Evan

Paristokyo

08-31-05, 12:27

Hi Guys,

Thanks to all of you for your advice. The place is in Ikebukuro. I came there first on a day there was almost nobody, and the guy there made no fuss and handed me a member card. When I returned on a busy day, I got the ''Japanese only, sorry'' that we are all aware of. But I showed the card and since them no problem. That was for the small story.

Concerning my girl, well, I will meet her this weekend for coffee before she starts her work. I prefer to meet her before than after it as you all may know why, and just for a coffee (nothing sexual) so as to check how it is in the ''daylight'' and in ''real''
I don't think I am in love but for any reason I think about her so much that the feeling is very close. But of course maybe it is the bbbj's magical effect (didn't know it was working on brain so long).

Well anyway I will let you know how it goes. I will let the hairy chest do the magical trick (not sure it's that...)Thanks again

Paristokyo

08-31-05, 12:43

I forget to tell the name of the club in my previous report:

it is called ''little bear''. http://www.little-bear.biz-web.jp/

As you will understand, I won't tell the name of the girl. I tell the name of the club anyway since it is a place to share info.

I was her first gaijin guy. Maybe difficult for gaijins to get in if there is not the right guy at the entrance. Enjoy yourselves.

Evan Stoner

09-11-05, 04:22

Paristokyo,

So how did it go?

Concerning my girl, well, I will meet her this weekend for coffee before she starts her work.

Sting

09-18-05, 07:29

Hi all,

Well, I would like to know your opionion about the japanese girls in comparsion to western girl and other asian girls. There are better or etc. I heard they are very nice and really perfect. Also they like sex etc.

What is your opinion?

Thanks

Sting

Sebastiano

09-26-05, 01:14

Jedifromlaman

09-30-05, 20:26

Anyone know any good places in Saitama? Prefreably the area near Omiya.

Wazoo

10-02-05, 02:29

I've never gotten into the Nampa scene much, but I always notice lots of pretty single girls hanging out at the Starbucks upstairs in the Omiya Station. There's also a lot of young people in the Internet Cafes around the station.

One Wing Low

10-24-05, 05:23

I was walking on a very crowded pedestrian street in Shinjuku at 3PM.

I spotted a very nice young girl at the reception desk in a large commercial bank with all-glass walls. I wanted to check her out, so I walked in and asked her where I could find an ATM to withdraw some cash.

She pinched her eyebrows, looked up and down, trying to understand my very slow English, then tried very hard to find the answer while hissing though her beautiful full lips, painted in glossy orange lipstick. Her face had all the deadly serious expressions just like our fine Ronnie Reagan's as he contemplated pre-emptive strikes. She then gave me directions to a bank down the road.

After thanking her profusely for her kind assistance while carefully checking out the silky skin of her hands, I walked down the crowded street towards the alleged ATM.

About 3/4 miles later came flying down Ms. Receptionist. She was breathing heavily after the sprint. She was tugging me, gesturing wildly, and with her very broken English, informing me that I had walked down the wrong direction.

What do you think?

As I look back, If I had known Endowed back then, I could have had myself a serious Nampa experience right on the street in the middle of Shinjuku.

Mountebank

10-24-05, 10:09

You'll have even better experiences if you can get them to make eye contact or even talk to you while you are in a coffee shop, fast food restaurant or even on the street !! You could fumble with a map or look at photos of your pet with a wistful expression. Or even sit calmly while sipping tea and bleeding heavily from a self-inflicted wound. If you really want to pick up a girl while she's working at a bank then you should seriously consider getting a job there.

Lubricate It

10-24-05, 12:18

Japanese are basically honest and responsible. She was concerned that you had walked in the wrong direction to the ATM. Nothing more than that.

Endowed

10-24-05, 18:43

Wing Low
Lubricate It beat me to the response but I concur with his assessment.
Actually this is pretty common occurrence. The Japanese always have to make sure of everything and they will worry about you going the wrong way so they will watch your progress and rush to the rescue. This could actually be a good gambit to meet a young lady (walk out and purposely go the wrong direction without looking back) however you have to have your name card ready so you can suggest properly thanking her later or stop by after the successful ATM transaction and thank her. As she was working at a bank she probably had to ask permission to chase you down, then get someone to fill in and she probably rushed back twice as fast.
There are dozens of successful ploys if you look back over this forum posts. One good one is to find a cute store girl and then ask for something they don't have, but can order for you to pick up later. Then you have an instant reason to exchange emails (because you don't understand language too good but can write her) and keitai numbers and ask her to a harmless lunch before you go back to the store.
Favorite stores for this type of nampa are stationary or wall paper or book type and ask for color paper, book, etc, they do not have but can order from a catalog. Also there is a proliferation of reflexology places staffed by young and cute girls just out of massage school, where you can get a foot massage for 1500-2000 y and then you have a captive audience for 15 min. Just some ideas. Keep us posted.
Good luck
En

Lion

10-26-05, 03:10

Endowed never ceases to amaze me. Gambits for stationary stores, bookshops and massage places-he is definately at another level of Nampa than the rest of us amatuers.

But yeah, the help-you-out people in Japan are usually just that, but having a card ready and a "thank you coffee" offer is a good approach.

Manatsu

11-05-05, 19:10

Hi guys!

I was wondering if anyone of you have ever picked up one of those girls at tradeshows or expos who stands there with their minimal clothings, smile and handout flyers or whatever.

Any recommended approach to those chicks?

Cheers!

Seb.

Are you refering to the Tokyo Auto Show? I had a friend who was working for the show. She told me that usually company prohibits dating clients. But most of them will settle for the right price. Or you have to be Brad Pitt to get anything else.

South by SW 2

11-06-05, 08:47

I'm going to be in Japan Nov 23 - 27 on my way back from Singapore. I haven't made any reservations or plans. Although I haven't been to Japan before, I do know a couple of dozen phrases and I've been told by natives that my pronunciation isn't bad. I'm a 40 y.o. who is trim and distinguished-looking in a suit. I've done a lot of incidental mongering in my travels, but I've grown more interested in amateur talent.

I posted a friendship ad on japan-guide.com simply saying I was visiting and would like some suggestions. I got three responses from women right away and one of them in Kyoto has been very helpful. Although I'm nudging it in a more personal direction, statistically it is very unlikely that we'll hook up. I would genuinely like to visit Kyoto, anyway.

I'm wondering if staying in Osaka and doing a day trip or two to Kyoto would be a better choice in terms of options. Obviously, there is a lot more info on mongering and nampa'ing in Tokyo than either Kyoto or Osaka.

My preference is generally to stay in local style accomodations, but if a business hotel boosts my chances, I'll suck it up.

Any input would be welcome. I'll certainly post the results.

SbySW

Peloton

11-15-05, 09:12

In Tokyo a business class hotel is definitely better-the women earn no status points with their friends staying in a ryokan (traditonal inn). Cerulean Tower in Shibuya is a good buy (on their website for about $250/ night). Remember the higher the floor, the greater the status. Very high end is Grand Hyatt Roppongi Hills and Conrad in Shiodome (worked well last night ;)

EVERYONE you meet is available if you can play it. Just ask questions, smile a lot and say "you are so kind-can I have e-mail." sand then send an e-mail- offer coffee or dinner and then follow the posts and its done. Store clerks, girls in coffee shops, even the people who work at the hotel. Don't ask about husbands and boyfriends-it will not be discussed and is not an obstacle.

Try to show some permanence or that you will be back again soon. Having a pre-paid Japanese mobile (get one at the airport for about 60 USD) helps immensely. Talk about how you are setting something up here and will be back. If it is true, by your third trip you will have a stream of regulars who will e-mail you before you get here and will line up for your free nights. the woman I was with last night said "It's called gaijin (foreigner) privilege. Even ugly guys can have five women lining up to spend the night"

What is nice is that they are courteous and will not intefere. As soon as they see the sun, they usually get dressed and leave.

Endowed and Sojourn's post will explain the game once you are out with them. It's not like the States, it's gentler and more relaxed. They are ready to go in most cases if they agree to go out-you just have to make them feel safe and being gentle is how you do it-especially as they are of smaller stature than Westerners and their culture operates on kindness.

My 10 day trips are now a mix of regulars and first time follow-ups to those I met last trip. Also, they travel a bit to the US and if you are single they will met up with you as well.

Good luck.

South by SW 2

11-16-05, 07:42

Thanks Peloton,

Sounds like you've got it down. I'm still studying the words of the Masters -- Endowed and Sojourn.

I'll be spending three nights in Osaka and one in Tokyo. I've got three meetings set up so far with penpals. World Friends has also been a good source of contacts. I'm getting a rental phone to help coordinate.

We'll see how it goes.

SbySW2

Peloton

11-23-05, 05:09

Trip # 10 Nov 11-20. All Tokyo. Very good hotels this time. Endowed lets me know his dates-they almost exactly coincide. Best trip for me yet. No Nampa bars this time but they were lining up via e-mail for the free nights. You have to balance the regulars with finding new, gorgeous, sweet ones.

"Club 23" from previous reports has been e-mailing- I tell her I will be there two days later than actual as I want some time on the ground to assess. First night, private dinner with female concierge friend, no nampa but she can help me in a pinch witn ANYTHING business wise or find a great spot for a date, or get this done at 2 am etc.

Second night-international party. Endowed and I attend. In a basement of some dumpy office. About 7 women, usual suspects and not very interesting. My eyes are literally closing from jet lag as I talk to a Chinese 6.5. excuse myself and go to hotel to sleep. Here the next day that endowed left, casually walked into Heartland and soon enough had someone to do a "ceiling audit" at the hotel.

Now, it gets interesting. Minutes before I left the US, I e-mail a 7 lawyer I met at Motown who speaks perfect English is funny, pleasantly sarcastic -that night Sojourn called her a 98 percenter and said I had to talk to her. I sent her a reminder of the meet at Motown 2 months before and my picture. As soon as I get to the hotel in Tokyo, an e-mail is awaiting saying she would love to go out.

I ask her to meet and we go to the infamous ass-cafe. Then to the Agave tequilia bar, and then I squeeze her hand and say let's go back to my hotel.

In the room, she makes tea, we make out and then superscore- Mindblowing. Great quotes like "Fuck me like I am roppongi meat market pick-up......" I like this one-would date her if she lived in the US. textbook lay-up -thanks Sojourn for the pattern.

Now, Club 23 is constantly calling so I take her to a baseball game. During the night she tells me how many gaijin she is fucking and how she wants to go to Club Muse on the weekend as no one will take her. I am tired and don't want to be guy #6 or 7 for the last few weeks so I send her home alone.

BUT WE CAN"T FORGET OUR FRIENDS!!!!! Endowed has been asking me if she has friends-but how about giving HER to Endowed. Discuss it with him, he likes this idea. Permission given. I ask both of them to meet me at 8 at a common landmark. they do. But then I get a call from Sojourn (we also have developed a business relationship) that if I really want to close some business I am working on I have to meet at 8:30. So I tell endowed and Club 23 to go have some sushi together, and I have business, I will be back in an hour. I can see babysitter Endowed eyes light up.

Two hours later, I find out to further this deal I have to go with the client to some hostess bars. So I call Club 23 on her mobile-Endowed is being a gentlemen and she is comfortable. They are at Motown. I say I can not come back and that endowed can look after her.

Next morning I called Endowed-he immediately fesses up that he has too joined "Club 23." Tell him that I am psyched -compared a little and go on my way. That night, I meet Club 23-tell her I know everything and that it is OK. She felt bad so she buys me a gift and says we should go back to my room. I keep it light and friendly although we sleep together .

But I really want to spend quality as well as physical time with my lawyer sweetie from the start of the week. But she has a friend (female and single) visiting from New York who will literally not leave her side. So, endowed to the rescue. We ask them to meet us in Roppongi for dinner and...

Then Endowed pulls the one of the more fun and nicer restuarants totally out of his ass. How did he know about the place. the women are mucho impressed and endowed is paying so much attention to her friend and distracting her that the lawyer and I are working our mutual seduction and flirtiness. endowed normally professes not to spend money on dates or as I say be short on the cash and long on spreading the seed. But this is special, we are really celebrating having a great week and working together like clockwork, so we splurge (about $160) per couple which we each pick up .

Then its off to the Kareoke box with the two ladies-endowed chooses the lady is a tramp while kinoing the friend big time and my lady and I are naturally getting closer. Endowed keeps saying to the friend that my date and I should go home together that the friend even starts encouraging this. endowed leaves for his pre-arranged gig-we drop the friend off where she is staying and my sweetie and I are back in the hotel until 2 pm the next day. My head was spinning. The women do stuff over there that comes naturally that only a select few get over in the US.....I am a happy boy.

Club 23 and the sweetie are each calling about who will spend the last night with me and see me off to Narita. I decline both -go to sleep early and leave Tokyo with great memories, another regular-no time at Motown or Heartland and again mad props to Endowed and Sojourn. It's a shame that I don't see guys winging together that well in the US.

It just keeps getting better and better each trip. Now I can work alone, or with either of the masters .

BikeRider

11-25-05, 15:57

Try to show some permanence or that you will be back again soon. Having a pre-paid Japanese mobile (get one at the airport for about 60 USD) helps immensely.

Peloton are these rental phones or a prepaid phone that you keep across trips like in the US? If the former, can you post some more info on obtaining one? I've always rented a phone, but my friends have said it comes up as a pay phone on their caller-id. I'd like to avoid that if possible.

thanks, BR

Soujourn

11-28-05, 17:49

Since having a spare is a very good thing ...

1) Most non-Japanese phones do not work in Japan. With the exception of some Vodafone or tri-band phones that have global roaming. Bear in mind, global roaming calls are very expensive! Check with your carrier and be very specific about asking ifyou can roam in Japan.

2) If you buy a phone in Japan as a post-paid customer, you can get a global roaming phone from any of the 3 carriers. Again, the global calls are very very expensive.

3) You can buy a prepaid phone in Japan by just showing ID. From a few months ago you could by these phones completely ID free - which means the carrier had no way to actually know who was using the phone. Great for nampa, bad for the government trying to track down unsavory characters. You can buy them at the airport or when you get into Tokyo at many places (including some convenience stores) Like most things in Japan, the price IS the price and the cost at the Airport is not much different. Only the selections tend to be towards the more pricey models. I suggest getting a simple TuKa prepaid -- you can walk away with the whole package for under $100.00 ( Minutes included)

4) Postpaid phones generally require the 'guarantee' of a resident. If you get a post paid phone, then you get email! Email on your phone is probably the next most important thing for serious nampa. You can live without it - but bear in mind, most Japanese are ALOT more comfortable writing english than speaking or listening.

South by SW 2

11-30-05, 08:13

Met up with Fumiko on the night I arrive. She's driving a big ass Benz and navigating it through alley ways that have the proximity alarms going off constantly. She takes me to the restaurant that she owns. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to make a move on her in front of the help. We have some snacks and a drink. I'm feeling kind of like a kept man as she signs the tab.

The second night we meet up again and I talk her into going to a karaoke box. She knows one at Shinsaibashi next to the Starbucks. We have some drinks and snacks, sing badly, and make out a little. She seems nervous and keeps mentioning that we just met. I doesn't help that we got a box with an outside window. We're four floors up, but she keeps looking out the window. She asks me my blood type. Frankly, I have no idea. She guesses AB. I readily agree. She doesn't shrink away, so I guess it's a good answer.* Then she starts talking about spending a month or two in the US studying English and how she's interested in a homestay. Uh-oh. She actually has the means to this and I surely don't need her showing up on my doorstep.

She agrees to go to my hotel for a drink in the lounge. The Swissotel is pretty nice and centrally located at Nankai Namba station. The lounge act in the main lobby was doing their level best to help me score. They were a Jamaican and Portuguese duo -- Reese and Manny. I'm feeding her sweets from the dish and it's a pretty good night. I do in fact have an omiyage gift up in my room which I "neglected" to bring with me. She comes up to my room and we do some standing kissing and fondling. When I get to the tongue action, she backs off and says she is not comfortable yet to do that.

I didn't do the friends pitch or heavy-duty onegaishimasu since I think it'll be more difficult to say no to a visit if we have sex. Guess I lack the killer instinct.

I see her off then head off to Coco's for a great session, but that's a different post. I also met a pen pal in Kyoto, but I don't know if it it worth posting.

-- SbySW

* Found an article after I got back: "About 40 percent of Japanese are type A, 30 percent are O, 20 percent are B, and 10 percent are AB. O's are said to be decisive and curious, while AB's are supposedly complex, and suited for research and art." Anyone know what the best nampa answer is?

Tocsin

12-01-05, 10:26

It's weird. Some Asians believe that you can tell a lot about one's personality from their blood type. One of their uses for this information besides transfusion data is to gauge compatibility. Some blood types are more compatible with others. Some are more outgoing than others and on and on and on...

You can read this note:

Personality Traits By Blood Type - A Japanese Concept

Beginning in approximately 1930, the Japanese embraced the idea of matching personality traits with one's blood type. This phenomenon is as popular in Japan as the idea of matching horoscope with personality is in the States.

Almost all Japanese are aware of their blood type. The idea began when some in the west were touting the idea that the asian peoples were more closely related to animals then humans, or lower on the evolutionary chain, since type B blood was the predominant blood type in asians and animals. As ludicrous and unscientific as this idea was, it was insulting to say the least. Modern science disproves this obviously faulted idea. In the 1930's Furukawa Takeji (1891–1940) set out to disprove this notion and a new idea was born.

However, the idea of personality traits being influenced by blood type remains. Companies in Japan even had divided workers by blood type.

Here are the general ideas of each blood type. The Rh factor plays no role in the blood type/personality idea:

Type O:
Type O's are outgoing, and very social. They are initiators, although they don't always finish what they start. Creative and popular, they love to be the center of attention and appear very self confident.

Type A:
While outwardly calm, they have such high standards (perfectionists) that they tend to be balls of nerves on the inside. Type A's are the most artistic of the blood groups. They can be shy, are conscientious, trustworthy, and sensitive.

Type B:
Goal oriented and strong minded, type B's will start a task and continue it until completed, and completed well. Type B's are the individualists of the blood group categories and find their own way in life.

Type AB:
Type AB's are the split personalities of the blood groups. They can be both outgoing and shy, confident and timid. While responsible, too much responsibility will cause a problem. They are trustworthy and like to help others.

Compatability by Blood Groups:
A is most compatible with A and AB

B is most compatible with B and AB

AB is most compatible with AB, B, A and O

O is most compatible with O, and AB

To learn about the science of blood types, please visit the link on the top right "Blood Groups and Anthropology" "Craig Medical" or "The Franklin Institute."

Sushi Galore

12-02-05, 00:49

3) [...] I suggest getting a simple TuKa prepaid -- you can walk away with the whole package for under $100.00 ( Minutes included)[...]

I agree with Soujourn, but one addition to consider might be that with a TuKa prepaid phone, once your money runs up, not only can you not call someone but are also not reachable anymore by others until you refill your account!
(I once made that mistake. In the middle of the talk the call cut off with no near by opportunity to quickly purchase a new card.)

My other prepaid phone, by AU, at least lets me receive phone calls as long as the phone as such is activated (usually more than half a year after loading the last amount of money on, no matter if it is used up or not.) In this case the chance to miss a date is lower...

Soujourn

12-03-05, 05:19

IveGotBigBalls

12-03-05, 06:55

Always ask HER bloodtype first! The you can be sure to respond with the most compatible. Or you can say that eating chocolate automatically makes incompatible bloodtype null and void. A fact that ALL Japanese women would clearly acknowledge.

Chocolate IS the Japanese Women Beer Goggle.

S
Or you can just say AB since it seems AB is compatible with all types.

Interesting thing on the chocolate... gotta try that one soon.

South by SW 2

12-04-05, 10:58

I'd go with AB as well. I have a hard enough time keeping my story straight after a couple of drinks without adding an alphabet soup of blood-type compatibility into the mix.

I do wonder why the first woman who asked me immediately suggested that I was AB. Did she hoping for compatibility or did she genuinely think I matched the rather confused profile of an AB? Guess I'll never know, but I'll be a grateful AB from here on out.

SbySW

Lion

12-05-05, 03:46

Southside Paul

12-08-05, 04:47

Anybody have any good phrases for approaching girls in Vegas at Black Jack table or at slot machines?

Soujourn

12-10-05, 13:06

How about --- 'let's win a million and go to Japan - I've got a penthouse that's just waiting to see you'

Or -- ' You know I'm an expert in counting. Let me guess your next 6 cards?'

1) Never use 'yes or no' answerable questions.
2) Create some intrigue and curiosity with your first question.
3) Use simple pacing to establish rapport -- but not too much.

Anyways -- when in Vegas, I will generally find the group with several girls playing together - but not too many - and start with the ugliest one. That always makes the cutest one jealous (she knows who she is). And your confidence factor will increase quickly when any girl is showing you some interest. Then slide between them (still ignoring the cute one) so you can get some body closeness to the one you want.

I don't spend much time on this -- I really dont want the ugly one getting to close - just close enough to make the cute one a little envious. Then I leave and say I'll check back in a bit.

My general rule of nampa is the same regardless of country, women, etc.

"Create space and it will fill naturally."

All the pickup lines and stuff are just consenquential - no reason to know any of them. You need to be dynamic, patient, confident and positive.

Last week I went out with a fellow nampa friend and we picked up 6 different girls within 3 hrs. We chose pairs, since we were working as a pair, and looked for them in 'states of seeking' , so we could play the sempai or onisan (older brother) aspect. All 'catch and release' since we have cuties at home waiting ;)

Pair 1 : Looking at a map at the closed police box. Took us about 15min to get them to a bar for a quick drink - grab the numbers/mails, then release.

Pair 2: Looking at the restaraunt guide outside a big food complex. We made the choice for them - dessert of course, and left before we had to order anything substantial - just a quick drink, then get the numbers/mails. Release.

Pair 3: Exiting the same restaraunt complex - in the elevator. Well -- what do you do when you've just finished eating? Better dance some of the chocolate cake off your thighs, babe! ;) Follow us and we'll show you a fun, new place.

You just have to DO IT!

Two by Four

12-11-05, 14:10

Hey if anyone is interested in some team nampa (hunting for Japanese girls) in Vegas on DEc 18th or 19th drop me a PM.

2X4

BTW thanks for another classic post Sojourn.

Southside Paul

12-11-05, 15:49

Hey if anyone is interested in some team nampa (hunting for Japanese girls) in Vegas on DEc 18th or 19th drop me a PM.

2X4

BTW thanks for another classic post Sojourn.Sorry, I'll be in Vegas Mon the 12th thru Friday 16th. Would've love to team up otherwise.

Thanks for the direction, Soujourn. I was looking for phrases in Japanese that I could use early on in the approach to make them laugh and also to express a desire on my part to learn their language - although they would soon see I only knoew a few words.

If anyone knows how the Japanese actually count in Black Jack, I would love to hear about it. The Japanese counting systems are incredibly complex. There is actually a game show that the Japanese play where people are tested on how to count various objects.

Is the simple "ichi, ni. san, ..." system used or is something else?

Also, JAL flys into Vegas right? Anyone have any hints on meeting stewardess'?

AussieGaigin

12-14-05, 09:58

If anyone knows how the Japanese actually count in Black Jack, I would love to hear about it. The Japanese counting systems are incredibly complex. There is actually a game show that the Japanese play where people are tested on how to count various objects.

Is the simple "ichi, ni. san, ..." system used or is something else?

Also, JAL flys into Vegas right? Anyone have any hints on meeting stewardess'?For a foreigner, a simple "ichi, ni, san..." would be understood.

But you are correct, the full J counting system is complicated, too much to explain here. Basically, counting is done with "qualifiers" which describe different types of objects. So "three people" would be "san-nin", or possibly more correctly "mi-nin" (there is another set of numbers for 1 -10 when used with qualifiers - hito-tsu, futa-tsu, mi-ttsu.).

Three cards would be mi-mai, but I dont know if this would carry over into Blackjack betting.

If you can find a book on J grammar, it will explain it better.

Brussel

12-21-05, 03:36

Hello Guys,

I have been reading these posts since more than 1 year and I love them. Most specialy the nampa section. Living in Europe, you are my link to the Japanese beauty's.

Finaly I can come back to Japan and will be staying from Saturday dec 24 until Friday dec 30 at the ANA hotel near Ropongi.

When I was in Tokyo last time I found out that it would be more easy to Nampa with two people just because the girls are most of the time also in pairs. So here comes my question. Are there any of you who want to team-up or show me around. I am also interested in adult partys as well.

Hope to receive your mail and meet you guys.

Brussel

12-22-05, 05:00

Hello guys,

I have been enjoying your posts the last year. Thank you all for that. It is my link with the land of oyshi girls and women.

My work sends me suddenly to Japan. I will be in Tokyo from dec 24 until dec 30and have a lot of free time. I will be staying in the ANA hotel close to Ropongi.

So here comes my question. Do you have any recomendation for dec 24and the next days. Or would any of you like to team up with me, since most of the Japanese girls go out with two.

I am also interested in any adult party or international party.

I hope to hear soon from you

Brussel

12-22-05, 05:11

Little Jared

12-23-05, 00:09

Chocolate IS the Japanese Women Beer Goggle.

Of course, I guess many of you heard about "valentine chocolate", and giving some chocolate as a valentine present can be a very turn on for many J-girls (and not the ugliest ones)... I'm so happy I am back there soon!

Brussel

12-23-05, 03:14

Daijiro

12-23-05, 17:16

For a foreigner, a simple "ichi, ni, san..." would be understood.

But you are correct, the full J counting system is complicated, too much to explain here. Basically, counting is done with "qualifiers" which describe different types of objects. So "three people" would be "san-nin", or possibly more correctly "mi-nin" (there is another set of numbers for 1 -10 when used with qualifiers - hito-tsu, futa-tsu, mi-ttsu.).

Three cards would be mi-mai, but I dont know if this would carry over into Blackjack betting.

If you can find a book on J grammar, it will explain it better.For mi I have only heard that for mi-ttsu. All other times it's san. San-nin, San-mai, San-bon, San-satsu.

Yes these qualifiers are hard has hell to remember. And to a Japanese person if you use the wrong qualifier, it's almost like saying in English. He done did that.

AussieGaigin

12-26-05, 10:43

And to a Japanese person if you use the wrong qualifier, it's almost like saying in English. He done did that.I always found it is better to use simple Japnese correctly than to stuff up by attempting something complicated incorrectly.

While we westerners may snigger at their "Japlish", I can always get a laugh (or more) out of a J-girl with my Engnese (english phrasing with J words: e.g. "lets ikimasho to the movies").

Soujourn

12-27-05, 05:22

Here's a link that has good explanation of the counting terms:
http://japanese.about.com/library/weekly/aa061001a.htm

You'll get by just fine with a couple of them:

1) Hitotsu - 1 thing
2) Futatsu - 2 things
3) Mitsu - 3 things

Good for just about anything except people.

1) Hitari - 1 person
2) Futari - 2 people
3) Sannin - 3 peopla

There ya go. Totally agreed with Aussiegaijin -- throw in a little japlish and you'll do just fine - in fact you might get a special teacher ;)

S.

Little Jared

12-27-05, 07:13

If I may correct you, Soujourn, it's HITORI and not hitari. I guess this be a mistake you probably noticed yourself...

Peloton

12-28-05, 00:59

LJ,

Are you questioning the master on a grammatical point. The point is-Sojoun was fucking a dozen 22 year olds the night you were conceived. Whatever he says is "correct."

Endowed

12-28-05, 03:28

Hitari or Hitori
I think Soujourn has a good excuse not to know
I doubt he has to use that word much when he enters a club/restaurant/bar

By the way, for us guys that are temporarily out of Nampaland. How about some success postings for us to read from you in the land of plenty. Christmas and New Years has to be a fertile ground

En~

Gagoo

12-28-05, 14:17

3) You can buy a prepaid phone in Japan by just showing ID. From a few months ago you could by these phones completely ID free - which means the carrier had no way to actually know who was using the phone. Great for nampa, bad for the government trying to track down unsavory characters. You can buy them at the airport or when you get into Tokyo at many places (including some convenience stores) Like most things in Japan, the price IS the price and the cost at the Airport is not much different. Only the selections tend to be towards the more pricey models. I suggest getting a simple TuKa prepaid -- you can walk away with the whole package for under $100.00 ( Minutes included)Even pre-paid phones can have email. I don't play the field like I used to but, I used to give girls my pre-piad number and use my monthly-billed phone for friends, family, or girls I like.

Yes, before you didn't need ID. Now you do. AU pre-paid is 100 yen a minute, and Vodafone is 60 yen a minute. My Vodafone prepaid has an email address. I used to have an AU pre-paid phone and it didn't have email. Au has better quality of signal but expensive. If you're serious to buy a phone in Japan, all the major carriers have a website with english. You can get a pre-paid Vodaphone for as low as 4,000 yen, and then pay about 3,000 for the cheapest pre-paid card. So about 7,000 yen to start. You will have 3 months before you need to buy a new card, or the minutes will expire. If you buy a new card before that, the minutes roll over. Each card will give you another 3 months added. You also get free incoming calls. After your time has expired your phone number will cancel in 3 months and the phone not work again. I haven't bought a new card for my pre-paid phone in months, but I still can use it for another 9 months.

With monthly phones you can get phones with global roaming, but as the other guy said, it's very expensive to use, and you even have to pay a lot just to receive the roaming call too. Vodaphone can roam in hundreds of Countries. AU phone only does about a dozen or so.

With AU pre-paid phones, you can send text messages to any AU phone, called C-mail.

If you buy a monthly phone, just about any company will give you email with your phone.

My current pre-paid can send emails, take and send pictures, also, I haven't tried this but but you can text other Vodafones.

My monthly AU phone is shock-proof, has email, GPS, camera, internet, digital compass, and is even waterproof up to 1 meter of water. A little on the bulky side though.

Just search the internet for more info. I don't know much about Tuka and DoComo. I know Docomo is popular for the Japanese locals.

Gagoo

Ambassador

12-29-05, 12:29

I was going to ask for any New Year's Eve advice you masters might have, and then I read Endowed's post below asking for holiday reports to tide him over until he can make it back to "nampaland". My reason is a little different; I will be in the big city New Year's Eve and would like to know if the fish are more keen to bite that evening. I've got a previous nampa conquest lined up for the next evening (Jan. 1), but will be solo Saturday night. If anyone wants to hook up, drop me a PM. Do any of the places usually mentioned here (Heartland, Motown, etc.) require reservations for the 31st? I have heard that the jazz clubs stay open until the morning on New Year's Eve and was thinking about doing a jazz pub crawl unless I get tempted by someone's stories about the regular bars.

Thanks for any info.

Spooje

12-29-05, 14:37

... I will be in the big city New Year's Eve and would like to know if the fish are more keen to bite that evening. I've got a previous nampa conquest lined up for the next evening (Jan. 1), but will be solo Saturday night...If anything it'll be harder because people traditionally get together with their families for New Years then go to a shrine at midnight. Sure there's lots of people who go out, but it's nothing like Christmas Eve where all the lonely OLs are out looking to get drunk and find a guy so they don't feel like a loser.

You may want to try to find an event for the countdown before hitting places like Motown. Last year I went to the top of the Mori building in Roppongi Hills. They had several bands play (Black Jaxx was the countdown band) and there were lots of young women. I'm 29 so I can still work it with the young women. I took a couple to Ass Cafe after and we got pretty drunk from the nihonshu. After one wanted to go to a local shrine, the other couldn't because her grandfather died within the last year. I ended up taking her to love hotel when the other one left to pray or whatever.

Endowed

12-30-05, 08:31

Hi Ambassador
Glad to hear you are carousing on NY EVE, I am sure we will hear an interesting report.
Regarding the International parties. I would hit one early and see who will meet you later.
One I have seen posted is:
"New Year's Eve Party on Dec. 31 (Sat.) at Fiddler with free buffet from 8:00pm. No cover charge either. Every other bar in town has a cover on New Year's. At Fiddler, free food, live band, no cover, can't beat that deal! "
http://www.kokusaika.org
Motown would be my last hit and expect pushed into your face crowds but there is always something interesting there that keeps em coming back. Find a comfortable corner to squash into and enjoy the show. I expect there will be some people cruising thru there because it would not be New Years for them if they didn't. Including all the usual cast of characters. I am sure there are not reservations required. Heartland will spill out to the street.
Spooje is right, I have been getting a lot of email from GF's about them going to the hometown for new year. Also about days of preparation for the big New Year celebration.
But there are so many women in Tokyo there would have to be an earthquake and tsunami to keep them at home,
New Years is always a time for reflection and change, maybe to your advantage, so Gambatte

Little Jared

01-02-06, 15:32

I should have shut up ^^

Spooje

01-16-06, 00:22

I've been having some luck lately with Skype. I put a profile on there in English and Japanese saying I want to practice my Japanese with someone and that I live in Tokyo. For some reason I kept getting a lot of Chinese girls calling in thinking I was Japanese eventhough my picture is clearly of a white guy and I say I want to practice Japanese. Why would a Japanese guy need to practice his own language??

Anyway for some reason in December I started getting actual Japanese women calling in. So far I've met a 34-year old singer in a band. She was pretty easy to bag. I only had to go two dates instead of the traditional three. Then lately I've been working on a 23-year old. Went out with her for the 5th time yesterday. We had a good time walking Edoko eating the sweets. Then we headed back to Shinjuku for some dinner and drinks. We conviently missed last train and spent the night togher. She's not a stunner by any means, but she is cute, short and thin (my favorite). Sorry no pictures this time, but maybe later.

Tokyo Fun

01-19-06, 17:39

Hi friends!

Tokyo Fun again! Last sunday I went to a good place to Nampa: a shinenkai (happy new year party) of a samba group at Ikebukuro. Some 600 people went there to watch beauty samba dancers on stage. But the girls watching the event was beauty too. The party was very fun and hot, with girls dressing sexy mini skirts.... Entrance fee 3.000 yenes with free drinks and free foods.

Last december I went to Christmas Party of another samba group, at Ginza, one week before the Christmas and was very fun too.

My rate is about 90% certainty I make new friends or pick up some J-girl because we have the same interest: party-dance.

In the Ginza party, I new a beauty girl. She give me her mail address and we meet in the early january to dinner in Roppongi. A girl with great heart because she gave me a scarf as Christmas gift and a box of chocolate in advance as Valentine Day.

The party of last sunday I knew another J-girl and that night we went to Roppongi after the party and she promissed meet me soon to eat fugu nabe in Kanda and maybe more.

Well friends, my next party will be this friday, 20th, in Yokohama. But this time Im going as invited of two samba dancers friends. They want pictures and I promissed shot. Thus, to make new girls friends I think will be difficult. But I will be with this two beauty girls, dont need more, inst?

To the next Sunday, 22th, I invite everybody to a brazilian pagode near station Gaienmae at brazilian restaurant Copa Tokyo. Entrance 2.000 yenes w/1 drink.

But you most be polite. Remember the girls there is very different from the Motown in Roppongi. If you are caucasian, most be double polite because everybody put eyes on you.

This is Japan and if you go in a hard attack/nampa, the manager put you go out. Last year the manager put a japanese guy out.

Copa Tokyo is not Fiddler or What the Dickens, with funk, hip hop or rock. Be polite because the J-Girls wanna be friends at first, well you know this thing...

See you folks!

Tokyo Fun

Little Jared

01-28-06, 17:32

and I guess this might gather some J-cuties around the regular nampa places like Shibuya and Harajuku (I'm talking as if I had EVER done it before but I am still a nampa virgin) This leads to my point : some information about this day some of us don't want to celebrate without a girl?

South by SW 2

02-03-06, 09:28

I was wondering if the regulars here have any hints on how to get bilingual business cards in Japan.

I'm lining up a 4 - 6 trip to Japan -- ostensibly to study Japanese -- in the next couple of months. I haven't decided between Osaka and Tokyo. I'm interested in more of a LTR, so I'll do some prep work on the dating sites.

Thanks,

SbySW

Lovesnihon

02-04-06, 03:04

Best place to get business cards in Japan is at Kinko's. They will make them for you for about 60.00 for 100. Note that cards with rounded edges are usually reserved for females (so I was told). They can turn them around in a few days and should be able to handle the translations too.

Good luck

Soujourn

02-05-06, 11:42

ok guys -- here's the scoop on japan vd.

1) VD is for the women to give something to the men. Not the other way around. So - why do they do it? Cause just a few weeks later is 'white day'

2) White day is where the guy needs to GIVE BACK something to the woman. Generally a nice chocolate.

So then - apply some nanpa logic here. You can literally approach ANY woman with a very nice chocolate in your hand and then simply say:

" Do you know this chocolate?" (of course she will - especially the best brand)
" I'm saving a few special ones for you on white day" (DOh!)
" A few days and it's Valentines day - how about we start early? A glass of champagne?" (For her to buy for you!)

You get the jist. Come on guys - stay away from the "Yes/No" questions - I overheard a couple of guys really going in hard the other night and they basically just overwhelmed the girls with interrogation.

Remember that --
1) interrogation is NOT conversation.
2) create space - don't define it.
a) This includes time,too - if you occupy all a girl's time - there's none left! I generally approach a girl with the standard attitude that I'm actually leaving, not arriving.
b) Create conversation that let's her fill you! This is the best rapport builder.

BTW - I'm sure you could play this anywhere, imagine in the U.S. explaining this unique Japanese custom to your target.

S.

Soujourn

02-05-06, 11:48

BTW - don't forget to get a special set of 'nanpa cards' made. This should have your nanpa phone number, email and generally ficticious information. Control of the JWN (Japanese Woman Network) depends on flooding with appropriate, but inaccurate personal information.

S.

Two by Four

02-05-06, 14:16

Sojourn,

This is great advice because I have tried both methods and seen the results. Funny thing is I can't really control my mojo, I either have it with a certain girl or I don't. If I have it the conversation just flows and if not it becomes an interogation.

For the sake of pinning down non-interrogation type of conversations can you give us an example.

Let's say you sit down in a bar and notice a pair of J birds. They are both fairly atractive. One is dressed kind of funky (with beads and funky nails) and the other one has those destroyed denim jeans a LV bag and the latest keitai model.

What would be an example of interrogation and what would be an example of creating conversation "that let's her fill me"?

I know you are probably busy so feel free to ignore this Q if you don't feel like playing.

2X4

ok guys --
Remember that --
1) interrogation is NOT conversation.
2) create space - don't define it.
a) This includes time,too - if you occupy all a girl's time - there's none left! I generally approach a girl with the standard attitude that I'm actually leaving, not arriving.
b) Create conversation that let's her fill you! This is the best rapport builder.

S.

BikeRider

02-05-06, 17:38

I've used overnight prints in the US. You can design your own card and print the front and back. I put English on the front and Japanese/Korean on the back of mine.

BTW - don't forget to get a special set of 'nanpa cards' made. This should have your nanpa phone number, email and generally ficticious information. Control of the JWN (Japanese Woman Network) depends on flooding with appropriate, but inaccurate personal information.

S.

Soujourn

02-06-06, 03:22

Hi 2x4 --

1) Never mistake shyness for aloofness. ALot of times guys will think the fashionable j-girls are aloof and hard to approach. Generally it's just the opposite. They spend ALOT of time and money to primp up for going out - so they really HOPE you would say something short and sweet to them.

2) This makes your opening oh so easy - especially in Japan. Every woman loves a compliment. And Japanese guys just don't do it! So you are automatically in the game when you just casually comment something about their accessory or clothes.

3) Language level has alot of impact. Chances are unless you can speak pretty good Japanese, the best opening will be something direct and easy - like:

a) Oh! Your shoes are cool. I haven't seen that style so much.
b) I like your hairstyle. It looks good on you.
(you can find the japanese for this in books like 'making out in Japanese') or with enough request, I might be inclined to put up a 'nanpa podcast'.

4) SMILE! Enough can't be said about this. Think about the funniest thing in your life BEFORE you walk up to the girls. Endowed has the most magical smile - so even if the room is a crowded sausage factory with only 2 or 3 chicks - he will get at least one of them. We've winged these situations time and again and generally win. You have all these sober looking, hard jawed, tough-asses trying to be sauve and shit and basically it just scares Japanese women.

5) Your first comment should never be a question. Unless you really are lost and need directions.

Example - perfect for Heartland or other bar where the chance of english speaking women is high. It's generally crowded and there's alot of nanpa going on - so you have very little time to make an impact and connect without becoming super stale.

a) Walk in the door but don't fully enter. Look for the table that has one or several women gathered. Walk past them directly to the bar and get a glass of wine or other drink than beer.

b) Walk to the table you previously scouted, approaching offhand and a little reserved, set your glass on the table - but don't body rush the scene. The glass will establish your presence enough.

c) Comment something like 'samui desu ne?' (It's cold!) Which it is now - so everyone will agree about it. (positive statement)

d) Generally at least one of the girls will smile and say something to confirm. She's your first target - but just acknowledge her briefly. Never play your strongest hand first. If she looked you in the eye, paused, and her smile is still there - basically she's caught. That's a 80%er right out of the bag.

e) Leave for a moment and then introduce yourself to one of the guys hanging around there. Show that you're not just there for nanpa to the girls. Establish yourself as a human.

f) Then make comment to another girl at the table. Something positive and obvious. If you get a good reply - then strike a little small talk. Like you enjoy the shopping in Roppongi Hills, but would like to know their opinion about best dessert place.

g) If the mojo is right - then bring on the chips. This is where Endowed has perfected the timing. Out of nowhere, a plate of Nanpa Chips will appear. The J-Girls can't resist. But NEVER let them eat it themselves. Eat a couple of fries in front of them and exclaim 'oishii' (tastes good). Then hold a fry to them to eat from your fingers. This is the key. If they refuse, they aren't warmed yet. So you can say 'help yourself' and hope they warm up. Otherwise if they strike the bait - chances are you are in.

h) Depending the time, I might push this along faster by something like. 'I like the fries, but I'm a little hungry for more, how about you?'. If the response is positive, then something like ' Have you tried a famous Chinese food?' Then play on the fact that you know a special place to eat and it's very close - so let's just take 5min to try some!

i) This is where the Ass Cafe got its name. 5min max from Heartland and the energy is always high. It's the perfect 10pm get away.

j) Timing. Know your trains and OL schedules.

i) Last train for most of the OL's is around 11.30. If they are nervous about leaving or stay-over, this is the time. They are 'safe' at 10pm, so unless they planned to stay the night drinking and stuff, a 10pm pickup is hard. But they may be hungry by 10pm - so Ass Cafe is the answer for the split.
ii) If you chat up the girls around 8pm they are likely to be chilling from after work. Set them up for phone numbers and call them/email later on. Or just schedule a date the next day.

iii) After 11.30pm are the all-nighters. This can play either way. They are into the long haul drinking and then first train home - or they are hunting men. Chocolate comes in very very handy with these girls. The older ones are the easiest to split out. (25 and older) Younger ones are clubbing, you'll have to promise a dynamic time to split them out.

Anyways - this is all recapped from earlier postings by myself and others. So you can just read the forum to get fuller understanding.

Lastly - for the meishi. You can also print up your own on the cardstock you can buy at any Kinkos, Office Depot, Bic Camer, Sakuraya, etc. Cheap and easy. Just make them with something like MS Publisher and then put on USB stick to print.

S.

Two by Four

02-06-06, 09:54

Thanks for the follow up Sorjourn. That is a classic post.

I have put your "don't interrogate" idea into practice already. I have been chasing this 21 yo hottie (seriously hot, she could be a model for one of those bikini mags. nice bod., pretty face and she is NICE to boot) for about 6 months and was too aggressive. At first she was interested and we had chemistry but I was hard up at the time and started rushing things, she naturally put on the brakes and stopped returning calls and Email. Full stop.

Well I have re-established contact but am taking it very slowly this time. We have started corresponding regularly now. Yesterday instead of asking "Do you want to go to a concert with me?" I wrote "What's new. I will go to a concert in April, it's an AWESOME band and I am really looking forward to it!!!" Here is hoping she starts asking ME about the concert.

I happen to have an extra ticket for this concert but I am trying to get her to come to me; to ask me to take her to the concert. I know it's an artist she likes so I think I'm in as soon as she asks me who is the AWESOME band I am going to see.

So I am still trying to master the moves. Wax on....wax off......young grasshopper.

2X4

Brussel

02-06-06, 18:34

Hello everybody, this is my first message here.

Thank you all fo your great storys and advices. Soujourn is right! I was in Japan the end of November and enjoyed a good time in Heartland. But I was not so succesful. Most of the time I lost good timing and other boys ran of with the girls. Maybe being a little nervous (I normally am never), but most of the time I waited to long and they dissapeared around 11. 00h.

Anyway I hope to be back soon and put everything I learned from you guys in practice.

Enjoy Japan and the lovely ladies over there a little for me.

Lovesnihon

02-06-06, 20:18

Sojourn,

Thanks for yet another classic education lesson. Time to get off my ass and start hitting my Japanese books again.

LN

Soujourn

02-07-06, 07:15

Good work 2x4! Yeah -- I usually throw them waaayyy off by just assuming something that was cool or interesting and then sending an email - bamm! Not requesting ANY time from them -- or , most important OFFERING any time!

Also -- use your phone cams guys! Send them a picture of the wine you are drinking, the food you are eating or best - the cutest girl next to you!! Get them jealous and desireous!

S out.

Endowed

02-10-06, 02:18

My guess is that Soujourn wrote his 5 point post below in about 15 min so that will tell you how spontaneous he is and how he can put together an intelligent train of thought or maybe it is stream of conscious writing. Same applies to his pickup game. On my off nights when I am winging, I just sit back and watch it in action. The result is the girls get so confused in different directions they give up, glaze over and follow his (or your) lead. This is something you learn by doing. His prelims as outlined in the post get you in the position to practice.
What can I add to this post?
At a place like Heartland which is getting quite a reputation as a pickup bar, I usually enter from the first door and make my way to the bathroom passing thru the entire place at a steady pace and mentally noting the possibilities and feedback, smiling of course. Don’t stop short or stare, just make your way thru like you are on a mission. It is always worth a look in the mens room mirror to see if there is something stuck in your teeth, take a leak and get ready for some nampa.
I recently read a book on pickup published in the US. Many of the approaches there will not work in Japan. I hate to say it but the J women are largely smart and disciplined. The one’s that hang out in Heartland are looking for the HRG (handsome rich guy) as it is known in the J woman’s network. They will not settle for anything percieved as less.
Some guys follow the 3 sec rule, that is that you have to approach a girl within 3 sec. This is not necessarily true in Japan. While you don’t want to hang out and lurk you can take time to check out the field and select the best possibility so it does not look like you are randomly hitting on everything in the place. The wall with a couch along the side of Heartland is especially productive. There are usually several groups of women here and you can always squeeze in for a seat and then instant conversation. You don’t need magic tricks, ESP readings, etc. Favorite topics are, what did you do today?, what did you buy?, what is your favorite food, where did you learn your English (it is so good),
This can lead into
1. Do you have a boyfriend? If no, this is affirmative for you
2. Do you date or prefer gaigin? If yes, another affirmative
3. What are your plans for tonight? If nothing, you are part way there.
4. What is your favorite sex position (just kidding) (insert something funny here)
If negatives, language breakdown or no sense of humor on above then say nice meeting you and move on.
The fries routine is an instant 300 y litmus test. Just as described by Soujourn but not to be applied in the first 5 min unless getting lots of good feedback.
Heartland is so crowded lately it is not too hard to get someone to leave there, But you better have a place that is close in mind.
Lately I have been hitting the internet or email nampa pretty heavy and only use the bar nampa for variation or after the internet nampa date takes last train. Not being a big drinker and part deaf I am actually at a disadvantage in the bar scene.
Also the Valentines/White day play suggested by Soujourn (explained below for those outside Japan) is a good gambit. For those who are playing too many women you best make an excuse for being out of the country or to Hokkaido on business on March 14
Keep the faith brothers

En~

The Japanese celebrate St. Valentine's day in a rather unique fashion. Women give the men gifts of chocolate as well as other gifts.
These gifts of chocolate are divided into two types: giri choco (obligatory chocolate) and honmei choco (chocolate for the man the woman is serious about). Giri choco is given by women to their superiors at work as well as to other male co-workers. It is not unusual for a woman to buy 20 to 30 boxes of this type of chocolate for distribution around the office as well as to men that she has regular contact with.
Needless to say, the approach of Valentine's Day is something that department stores and shops look forward to and promote with zeal because of its potential for increased sales. Large displays featuring chocolate usually with heart-shaped displays start to grace the floors of department stores from mid-January or so.
A woman will normally purchase boxes of giri choco in the several hundred yen range and may purchase an expensive box of honmei choco and another gift such as a necktie for her "special someone".
While all of this may seem quite one-sided, confectioners in Japan - never ones to miss an opportunity to sell more - took advantage of the Japanese feelings of obligation and created "White Day" in 1980 to help assuage the guilt feelings of those poor obligated males who received chocolate on Valentine's Day. On March 14th, exactly one month after Valentine's Day, men who were lucky enough to receive gifts of chocolate have the chance to return the favor by giving the women who gave them gifts of chocolate a more expensive box of chocolate or sweets (for some reason or other, these return gifts seem to be priced slightly higher than those the women purchase). Again, the stores provide plenty of reminders of the approach of this day so that even the most forgetful man cannot say that it slipped his mind. The gifts of chocolate that men buy are in white boxes (after all, it is "White Day") and come with separate shopping bags to put them in.

South by SW 2

02-12-06, 04:18

Thanks for the bcard info. I'll put some together as soon as I hit the ground and get a number.

Soujourn and Endowed's words of wisdom are even better. Hopefully, I'll have some experiences to post shortly.

SbySW

Endowed

02-12-06, 04:40

from online magazine article

tokyo's ordinance banning scouts who recruit young women for the sex industry, which went into effect last december, might be revised to outlaw such approaches.

the new anti-nampa ordinances, reports shukan jitsuwa, also have porn film producers clearly worried as strict enforcement may threaten a popular genre of adult videos known as "shiroto nampa av."

such films feature amateur "discoveries" who are supposedly recruited off the street and launched to instant stardom, as they are shown being accosted by the male lead, then seduced, undraped and energetically bedded before the cameras.

aside from the girls' fresh and innocent looks, the low-budget av producers favor amateur performers because they're willing to appear for far less money than big-name stars.

"if they aren't allowed to recruit on the streets of tokyo, some producers are thinking they can move to nearby prefectures like saitama or kanagawa," says a producer. "but in terms of quality the girls in outlying towns just don't measure up to what you find in shibuya, ikebukuro and other tokyo locales." : )

the producer also noted that tokyo girls are used to being regularly accosted on the street, whereas those in regional towns might object strongly and go straight to the police.

"so even though there's some risk of getting nabbed, we've got no choice but to keep shooting the movies in tokyo," he explains.

"no one's been arrested up to now, but the police are definitely watching us. so we've made a few changes to lower our profile. the male leads who approach the girls have been changed from guys with long hair and tanned skin to more athletic types, who don't stand out as much. and we've put some precautionary rules in place, like not carrying a camera; not scouting for longer than five minutes at any given spot; and insisting the actors absolutely not touch the girls in public.

"in addition, we avoid any mention of their appearing in an adult video, but just invite the girls to 'participate' in a 'film appreciation group.' "

Soujourn

02-13-06, 11:16

This law is actually great for <real> nanpa practice. It cuts down on the station exits harrassments alot! So the girls will feel a little safer and calmer walking to and from the stations. It's really meant to curb the blatant 'scouting' but does little to affect 'natural' interaction at a club or any other location. My only concern is that these laws start leading to more 'cry wolf' situations and setup us guys for potential 'unwanted date' issues.

Little Jared

02-21-06, 13:24

Well,

Since the best places to get laid in Japan are Japanese-only / gaijin-batsu, I wanted to go to gaijin friendly places. Since those are either declining or too expensive I wanted to go nampa, which I should have done from the beginning I thought. But since nampa has become a sport for rich and/or J-people, as a half-japanese-100%-poor student I have nothing left. Could you tell me about other places than motown or heartland, where girl need 10000Ybills to be caught?
thank you from a humble little boy

Take care
Jared

Spooje

02-23-06, 03:19

Could you tell me about other places than motown or heartland, where girl need 10000Ybills to be caught? Heartland has 500¥ beer and dinner for two until your stuffed can be had at Ass Cafe for under 2000¥ for both people. If you can't afford that then how do you expect to afford a hotel room? You've gotta be living way outside of the Yamanote so you'd need one.

If that's too much try one of those j-girl/foreigner parties that you hear about for language school or just for "cultural" exchange. I've never been, but otherwise you'll have to try to put on some kind of mime act in Yoyogi koen to get chicks for cheaper.

Soujourn

02-23-06, 12:47

1) Ladies Nights - many bars have these (like Castillo on Thursday) Either they drink free or very reduced price. The thursday ones are my favs because of the pay cycle synchronisation. Hey, the bar owners know this too!

2) Don't start early! Hit the post 2.30am crowd that is already lit and ready to go. You'll drink less ($$) and the girls will already be right where you want them.

3) Nampa isnt about what you buy her -- it's about what she buys you! Turn it around a bit. Something like "I'll pay the taxi if you take me to Legato's for a Martini" The taxi ride is less than 1000Y , the martinis for 2 will cost double that ;)

4) Any girl knows in about 10seconds if she'll go with you. If you've spent more time (and money) than that with her, then either you KNOW she's gonna go, or you're just flaunting yourself in hopes she will.

5) Nampa the club exits. After all - who goes in, generally comes out. If they're without a guy - BINGO!

--------

The other night:

1 - Went to club that was total sausage factory. Maybe 100 guys and 5 women. Hung out with some friends and waited for the 2.30 bell. Left the club and waited to see who exited. Cool, 2 girl pair , alone. Pulled the 'taxi trick' and off to Shibuya with 2 gorgeous lovelies. Drank my martini and ditched them. I don't like girls to think I'm actually that interested - I knew I could catch them later anyways - had both their emails and phone numbers.

2 - Late night at 911 (free cover). All the guys were going for the 10's. So, I went for the 8's. Pulled 2 more out for Karaoke time! Why try to split up friends when they wanna sing together? I just found a guy who was younger, cuter and dumber than me to wing without realising.

Total Cost:

Start time - 12.00am (just before last train)
End time - 8.00am
Club #1 : 1000Y
Taxi #1 : 980Y
Taxi #2 : 660Y (walked part way back)
911 : 1000Y - the dumb guy actually bought me 2 drinks, too!
Karaoke : 2000Y (split the cost between 4 of us)

Catch:

5 numbers and emails - confirmed. Let them type it into your phone!
2 Karaoke Box fun
1 Taxi grope and make out
not telling the rest!

Rene02

02-23-06, 16:29

soujourn's rule 4 is key to me.
The girls knows what she wants. She knows if she goes with you or not.
We all have to feel it, try to see what she is thinking and want, since this is a one-night shot. I have been dating Japanese girls who did not want to go with me, and after a week they finally did, but that was a girlfriend-boyfriend thing, not just nampa sex. For nampa, this is straight to the point. Unless you spend $$$, that she is completely drunk then you can 'abuse her' otherwise if she does nto want, there is no chance.
Spent too many $ in the past trying to be seductive and working hard on some girls who were negative on me.

Little Jared

02-25-06, 07:41

okay,
sounds like I look like a complete idiot now. I guess the thing is that I just don'k know the right places to go... so if you could light my fire I would be thankful.
For the rest I think by following some of the rules given here and counting on my Frenchman thing it would be good.

take care

Soujourn

02-26-06, 05:14

The goal of this forum is to share what works and try to avoid what doesn't! We've all chumped out many times (including recently) so it's just part of the game. I personally just got tired of walking home alone with an empty pocket.

There's nothing wrong with going out and having a fun night, clubbing, drinking, etc. Just keep some of the basic nampa in the back of your mind and you'll just have that much more fun!

S.

Little Jared

03-07-06, 07:27

...really not. Actually I am the one who has been Nampaed in the story.
Back to Roppongi - Motown (yes, that place with the worst reputation ever), and my first aim that time was not even find a girl but just go take a beer and dance a bit under Tokyo's lights. So I entered the bar, had my beer, danced a bit. I went to bathroom and when I came back a stunning J-girl in her early 20s (late 10s?) jumped on me, perfect body, beautiful eyes, and here lies our conversation (jap-glish for her, japanese for me):
- Where are you from?
- France.
- Kyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
- really?
- Yes. Kawaiiiii (cute)!
- thank you.
- And Kakkoii (good looking)! when are you going back?
- next month.
- can I be your girlfriend till there?
- euh...
- please... bite my nipple!
- \(oo)/

Indeed, 10 seconds. I'm not telling the rest.

take care
Jared

Manatsu

03-08-06, 06:39

Heading to Japan on my way to China. Going to be staying somewhere in a cheap hotel in Tokyo. Anyone want to meet up and lets go hunting together? I am ABC with fluent Japanese.

South by SW 2

03-08-06, 07:07

Oh well, I'm off to Tokyo tomorrow for a four weeks. I'm pretty well set thanks to the advice of the good folks in this forum. I should have my meishi and keitai in time for an international party on the 11th.

Hope to have a report soon. I'm actually looking for an eventual LTR, so I'm not focusing on Club 22 -- not that I'd say no...

Gambatte!

BTW, congratulations Jared!

-- SbySW

Soujourn

03-08-06, 07:10

There ya go! Not so hard after all! The basic key lies in being aware. Doesn't matter where you are - it's HOW you are! Could be a shoe store, nightclub, train station, anywhere. Don't push! "Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash." bruce lee.

S.

South by SW 2

03-08-06, 08:09

If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot.
S.Now I agree my goal is to fill up an OL, but I don't want to become the OL! ;)

Thanks for the zen moment, Soujourn.

SbySW

Peloton

03-15-06, 01:55

Last we heard, you left Motown with a 20's J-girl. Where's it at now? Perhaps you and her show up at Heartland on 30 March and tell her to bring some friends.:)

Bifster

03-16-06, 17:49

I will be arriving next weekend. Will be trying to apply the lessons learned here. Never have scored in Heartland so it is a priority to try to roundout my education. I guess Motown always seems easier.

Little Jared

03-17-06, 00:05

Gents,

Here comes the Feedback

Last tilme was Roppongi, Now I moved on nearest places from home; For ex, Shibuya is just fine, young gorgeous babes and much fewer rip offs...

A 20 yr J-girl trying to give you full satisfaction is like an angel offering you a piece of heaven.

Peloton

03-31-06, 20:43

We are talking scotch bonnet pepper level hot. That is Endowed. The man is so hot right now a month in Anarctica would only reduce his daily take from 3 EACH day (no, not a week-but each day) to about 2 a day.

It is unbelieveable. With a smile, some nice clothes and TOTAL Honesty the Japan world is his. He is getting picked up off of escalotors in broad daylight. Saw a really negative woman who wasn't buying at first, call her family ten minutes later to tell them she wasn't going home because she wanted to be a part of whatever fire the guy is on.

No exaggeration here. He doesn't even need the chocolates. He sits there and eats his soup slowly while the woman falls alseep in the restaurant waiting for him to finish. She obviously needs to rest up. Because he is Endowed.

Ladron

04-03-06, 12:26

OK, first let me apologize profusely for not writing a report, I know that can be kind of a cardinal sin around here, but hopefully one will follow in a week or so.

But what I would like to throw out there is a humble request from a nampa newbie who's religiously read the classic works of the masters (ie: Soujourn, Endowed, et al.) If any of you fellas would like to meet up in Roppongi this weekend for a few beers I'd be forever in your debt. Though if you ever found yourself on the beautiful island of Saipan I could certainly return the favor!

Brussel

04-03-06, 17:08

Hi Guys,

I remember from last year that it is not so easy for a newbe. I was in Tokyo for a week meself last year and was most of the time not succesfull.

So make a good deed and help him out a little. If any of you ever come to Belgium, I would be happy to help you Guys out as well.

There are more good looking ladys in Tokyo than in whole Europe and USA so I am sure that it will not hurt.

Bye the way... saipan is lovely for diving people tell me.

So enjoy your stay in Japan and think of a lonely man with a lot of bad looking girls in Europe.

Soujourn

04-28-06, 10:59

FYI -

1) Today is Friday
2) End of month and following the 25th - so many companies will pay today.
3) Many companies have extended Golden Week vacation so alot of people have Monday off.
4) The weather has turned for a good change.

What does this mean? OL's from everywhere will be flocking the bars, clubs and restaurants. If you want one of the easiest nanpa nights - tonite will be it! You can have anything from last train pumpkins, in-betweeners, karaoke all nighters and stumbling-home-drunk-and-horny in the morning for an all weekend showtime!

Ganbatte!

Mountebank

05-11-06, 06:12

Nampa is the skill of picking up a woman and getting her on her back. It isn't the sex for sushi style being talked about here. Someone who doing Nampa doesn't need a wheelbarrow full of money , colored glass, fancy beads or a thunderstick.

Naturally the older you get the harder Nampa gets, but that doesn't mean that it is impossible or that you have to cheat or pervert the definition.

For those who aren't afraid to try getting by with their personality I'll post a hint after I offer some suggestions.

It is imperative that you act like a gentleman or at the very least like a biped. Don't go if you are looking for instant sex.

If you are creative, have an imagination, some basic acting skills and a good work ethic you might be able to pick up a female.

Lets leave the lavender cravats, after shave and trinkets at home. Go armed with your charm , wit AND YOUR MANNERS.

www.whynotjapan.com (look for the international party)

AussieGaigin

05-12-06, 08:16

Very well put my friend. I have been practising nampa for about 25 years, and have been quite successful using these basic guidelines.
One of these days I'll put up some more guidelines of my own.

Nampa is the skill of picking up a woman and getting her on her back.
Don't go if you are looking for instant sex.

That doesn't mean you cant get it. LOL

Mountebank

05-13-06, 04:18

If you go to this type of party it might be possible to meet girls in their late twenties who have no boyfriend. I have the opinion that many girls in this age group have set their standards too high and that they are being left behind. They aren't old enough to be desperate , but they are approaching that age and may begin to look at foreigners as possible mates. When they were younger they might have scoffed at the idea, but now the clock is ticking down.

Some girls will only be interested in practicing English for free. These are not worth your time and if you can develop a system to identfy them and weed them out you can save lots of time and effort.

I hope that someone will pick up this thread and offer some insightful information on Japanese females in their late 20s.

You might be able to pick up a girl, get a girl friend or have someone to go out with when you visit Japan.

Soujourn

05-16-06, 11:19

Gentlemen I believe you are all on the right track, and at the same time, your posts show some reticence and in fact in-confidence (is there such a word) for nanpa!

Appearance - Japan is an appearance oriented country. Therefore it stands to reason that a small effort in this manner helps to get to the next step (attract).

Attract - Create something that inspires a little, give the women something that attracts her. This could be just about anything! A little story, make a crane from paper, small chocolate or ?? Use your imagination - people are most attracted by creativity.

Nullify - Keep positive and on track with your pursuit. Nullify hesitancy and negative reaction by divergence, positive anchors and motion. If you find something she reacts positvely to, then reinforce it.

Desire - work quickly to create desire. Touch, sharing food (my favorite) or a drink. Also - don't hesitate to display dominance. Japanese women are totally turned off by wimpy behavior.

I was up on a hard bet the other night. International party with mostly 20's girls that were from very upscale families. My friends challenged that I couldn't bring out anyone without difficulty. They were right. I took out 2 just to be on the safe side.

I think Peloton could collaborate this story..

Oh - one word of caution - be careful of the 'TS' Tequila Syndrome. If you over Tequila - you instantly turn every man in the room into an 11. Thus you have completly nullified your own efforts! Use this very sparingly! OK? I have seen too many brothers fallen to the wayside by such tactics!

I guess I would have to say that if you work too hard to nanpa - you will have little success. Find your way then use it quickly and surely. I see so many guys at the parties and places blabbing away without any real direction, focus or intention. They <think> they are nanpa - but in fact it couldn't be more opposite.

Mountbank, I agree mostly with your suppositions. However there is ALOT to be said for lavendar cravats and trinkets. After all it strikes a much more interesting appearance than ill fitting jeans, dirty shoes and a golf shirt. Also - I ALWAYS go looking for instant sex. They should feeeel your intention!!

Mountebank

05-16-06, 23:27

Soujourn,

You must be a very lucky man ! I'd wager that you are a wealthy Japanese. For you , the lavender crevat and paper crane are essential. I wish you the best of luck in the pursuit of your hobby!

But the fact that you must use your wealth as bait can't be discounted. How much does it cost you to "catch" each woman?

Would your methods work without the money, gifts and fancy clothes?

I can't imagine that you would be very successful. But you would be crazy to give up a system the must work wonderfully, for you.

Tell us a little about the Japanese girl's character. Give us some insightful observations about them, please !

Peloton

05-19-06, 13:16

On the plane back now (yes, ANA has internet)- impress the J-girls-fly a J airline-get treated much better, you get internet service, and you CAN nampa the flight attendants.

Arrived end of March and I bring endowed to a 34 yr old J-girl's birthday party at the Ass Cafe. 30 j-girls show up-25 are single and endowed nampa's the hosts best friend and as his digital camera proves-she is his third one of the day! Endowed keeps up this pace, so I barely see him until departure.

J-girl and I hang with Sojourn quite a bit- I even take my J-girl to Private eyes strip club for a venture capital negotiating session that I have-and my counter party buys her private lap dances so we can talk money in private. A few days later, another client takes me to a real down market hostess bar about 40 minutes from town where the women are east european 4s and 5s who get pissed off with me as I will not talk to them and only drink water.

Back to the Nampa.

Sojurn is never hot or cold-he just is and has the ability to do anywhere or anytime. He really just understands personal psychology well. Also, he can talk to a woman on any society level from professional pay to player to most successful business woman in a sincere way.

Mountebank-the speculation about Sojourn's economic status and accessories is just wrong from an intellectual and possibly factual viewpoint. I know him well, have no idea what he makes, but it is largely irrelevant. He dresses well, in a stylish not a brand name way. I am a guy who has brand name stuff as I do the venture cap thing and it doesn't help all that much. It is attitude and psychology. the little trinquets are exactly that -small chocolates (same as crack cocaine in Japan in relation to the effect it has on Japanese women-they need security guards there to supervise the lines at the high end chocolate stores.

Sojourn could do what he does making US 20K a year if he wanted (I guess he does better than that though). He has showed me places to buy stylish shirts for 40 bucks (I can spend $300 on my own), sport jackets for $200-300 and you wouldn't think they were any less than the $1200 someone can normally plop down. What counts is he shows a personal style that is right for the situation and that he cares enough not to wear sneakers and jeans or boring, boxy American clothes.

Someone e-mailed me and asked about Endowed's age and appearance. I will answer for all. The answer is "good." and also, semi-relevant. Both of these masters look the best the can for what they have. This is what the women care about, that unlike American guys, they take the time to look nice. But is is natural and not pretentious. In Japan, the women compliment people by telling, me, "I like (Endowed or Sojourn) he is very kind." This is the highest form of compliment in Japan.

You have to totally forget about the Western mindset -these are not artifical tit bitches in LA-these are sweet, kind women of all different career and intelligence levels that happen to be 90% of them gorgeous and very open to spending time with Westerners and willing to get physical relatively quickly if they feel safe. Remember, there is little Judeo-Christian guilt about sex.

You MUST play safe and watch out for diseases as the population is VERY sexually active and there is a mixture of Western and Eastern bugs out there. Also keep in mind that most J-women do not know about sexual diseases until they get them and the info they get from doctors is not the best sometimes.

This is not psychological/sexual warfare like in the US. Some of the NLP techniques elucidated in "The Game" can be utilized as part of your shtick, but the playing field is receptive here. They WANT to be picked up. They WANT to meet someone interesting who they can feel they look good walking next to, they WANT someone to show Tokyo, Osaka too, they WANT to see your hotel or even your friend's living room where you may be staying.

Look I can dress well and do the money thing, but the masters prove that this may or may not work in your favor -it is the honesty and kindness and understanding of their target audience that puts them over the line.

Yes, Sojourn did pull two out of a party within 10 minutes on a dare last week. One was quite hot and one was OK. Didn't matter -everyone had fun. Our other team mate got more than 10 phone numbers in the same amount of time. But everyone was acting naturally and there was no stale cologne, Bryan Ferry gel hair or pimp daddy clothing in the air. Just a few nice guys knowing which party has nice professional women and giving value to the women and making the experience about them just as much as it is about us.

Mountebank

05-20-06, 03:05

I can't keep posting critical coments here without being a nuisance myself, so I'll quit posting.

Peloton writes about the asscafe, but doesn't say where it is. A hostess club, cabacura or "hip show pub" is not a place where one can't practice nampa. He is most likely writing about a place where only Japanese can go and where he has to shell out money to get anything. That isn't nampa and since it doesn't give any information which helps the other readers it serves no point.

Sojurn and Peloton are probably one and the same and it is possible to learn a little from their posts. Most of the Japanese girls that non Japanese are likely to meet will be put off by presents and other superficialities. A sense of humor is your best asset. Don't treat the females you meet like they are for sale.

Unfortunately, Peloton thinks all English speakers hail from America and can only provide nampa infromation from strip clubs and strippers.

It is important not to be misled by Sojurn and Peloton. Behaving like them will make unpopular very quickly.

These juvenile posts are malicious and create an impression that harms all of us. I've never had to give a Japanese girl a gift in order to get a date or to get her to go to an apartment or hotel. If you are nice to them then many will happily split the cost of the hotel. I can't say why any girl I have picked up has liked me. I can only imagine that being friendly, humourous or not as bad as the last guy was the reason.
They are for the most part very nice young ladies. You don't need to act in order to pick them up. Be yourself and don't try to buy them. And they aren't stupid, so don't try to fool them into thinking you are something you aren't.

If you want to buy a woman then find a prostitute.

AussieGaigin

05-20-06, 08:02

i Most of the Japanese girls that non Japanese are likely to meet will be put off by presents and other superficialities. A sense of humor is your best asset. Don't treat the females you meet like they are for sale.

I would not likely buy a girl an expensive present, but a liitle o-miyage (tourist souvenir) goes a long way towards breaking the ice. I carry a range of small Australian items with me whenever I go to Japan, I can decide at the time what value of gift the girl gets (not that value matters all that much to them). This is in fact a cultural expectation in Japan, so they make good conversation starters as well.

They are also handy if someone does you an unexpected favour.

Two by Four

05-20-06, 13:03

J girls are "Very nice young ladies"........hmmmmmm.....

I would say they are normal young ladies. With all the greed, avarice and manipulation that you regularly find in young ladies. It's just that they make it SEEM like they are nice young ladies which is where most guys get thrown for a loop. Once you get closer to these women they will drop the facade and you will see they are every bit as greedy and selfish as young ladies anywhere else.

There is an inverse realationship between how nice they are and the amount of time they have known you.

They are for the most part very nice young ladies.
If you want to buy a woman then find a prostitute.

John Tokyo

05-21-06, 13:36

Soujourn

05-24-06, 05:56

I can sense a serious amount of frustration from Brother Mountebank - and I don't begrudge you that! Nanpa does take some effort beyond just being nice. It doesn't really require money (as Peloton could easily attest) - I rarely provide any 'gift' beyond a small piece of chocolate. Rarely buy a drink - why should I? Of course I will split cost of love hotel and perhaps ask the woman to choose a fun sex toy or clothes we could enjoy together. Have you tried that? When was the last time you picked the girl from wherever and took her to sex toy store to choose her pleasure?? I'm curious, in fact, brother Mountebank?

Critical nature is important to self discovery but oftentimes proves adversarial to your own efforts. Use critic to see where the gaps in your approach are. Where you could improve your timing and awareness. As Peloton said (sorry, we are not the same person by any means), typical 'GAME' will not work in Japan - especially by foreign persons. GAME requires intimate mutual knowledge of language culture and experience. Nanpa by foreign men to Japanese women relies more on zen approach. Simple, effective, pure timing and working desire points.

I will let any 'nice guy' proceed to talk the girl into boredom. Thank you!! You make my job so much easier. She is tired, sleepy and comfortable now with this boring social encounter. Imagine - completely neutral personality - how perfect. While you are trying to talk to her about something like beautiful sakura this year or your boring job as executive blah blah, then I come up and smile - take the drink you bought her from her hand, take a sip. She is astonished - you are instantly nullified. BUT -- HAHA -- then I give you BOTH a drink from my drink!! Which she gladly accepts and sees the game in that! Then -- I leave. What the hell just happend -- you both think??? You are pissed off -- she is startled but not angry - in fact she wonders -- where is he? Your anger belies you -- now she senses that and is instantly turned off.

A few moments later I come behind her and put my hands over her eyes -- guess who?? Her body fills with wonder and at same time excitement. She smells chocolate on my fingers. A little drunk - no problem to eat.

Catch! You, Mr. nice guy, could go home alone, again.

I have done this scenario time and again. Ask Peloton -- it simply works. Same as the party we attended. I didnt even use my OWN treat! I took it from a second hand plate of birthday cake. How about that Mountebank? Would you even SEE the plate there? Notice that she was drinking sparkling wine and a little hungry? Feeling a little nasty or dirty about eating from another persons plate? From my fingers? Everything is contrast to Japanese culture and 'nice' --- yet --- it's perfectly 'tatemae' because I imply 'honne'.

Yes - I totally agree with you. Please do not be misled by our information. We relate our experiences, wins, losses and efforts - unequivocally. For the benefit of this forum. Sometime there is braggadacio, sometime there is shame. But we know for a fact that many readers here have gleaned something special, added their own, and achieved nice times with special women.

Why do I see so many gaijin now dining at Ass Cafe with a date pulled from nearby Heartland? Is it simply coincidence? I don't think so -- on any night we see our mirror. And you know what?

It works.

Fw190

05-24-06, 17:58

Is Soujourn posting real stuff, or is he just pullling our leg and having a good chuckle at our expense? Still, it's very entertaining to read Soujourn's musings. He should write a novel.

I can sense a serious amount of frustration from Brother Mountebank - and I don't begrudge you that! Nanpa does take some effort beyond just being nice. It doesn't really require money (as Peloton could easily attest) - I rarely provide any 'gift' beyond a small piece of chocolate. Rarely buy a drink - why should I? Of course I will split cost of love hotel and perhaps ask the woman to choose a fun sex toy or clothes we could enjoy together. Have you tried that? When was the last time you picked the girl from wherever and took her to sex toy store to choose her pleasure?? I'm curious, in fact, brother Mountebank?

Critical nature is important to self discovery but oftentimes proves adversarial to your own efforts. Use critic to see where the gaps in your approach are. Where you could improve your timing and awareness. As Peloton said (sorry, we are not the same person by any means), typical 'GAME' will not work in Japan - especially by foreign persons. GAME requires intimate mutual knowledge of language culture and experience. Nanpa by foreign men to Japanese women relies more on zen approach. Simple, effective, pure timing and working desire points.

I will let any 'nice guy' proceed to talk the girl into boredom. Thank you!! You make my job so much easier. She is tired, sleepy and comfortable now with this boring social encounter. Imagine - completely neutral personality - how perfect. While you are trying to talk to her about something like beautiful sakura this year or your boring job as executive blah blah, then I come up and smile - take the drink you bought her from her hand, take a sip. She is astonished - you are instantly nullified. BUT -- HAHA -- then I give you BOTH a drink from my drink!! Which she gladly accepts and sees the game in that! Then -- I leave. What the hell just happend -- you both think??? You are pissed off -- she is startled but not angry - in fact she wonders -- where is he? Your anger belies you -- now she senses that and is instantly turned off.

A few moments later I come behind her and put my hands over her eyes -- guess who?? Her body fills with wonder and at same time excitement. She smells chocolate on my fingers. A little drunk - no problem to eat.

Catch! You, Mr. nice guy, could go home alone, again.

I have done this scenario time and again. Ask Peloton -- it simply works. Same as the party we attended. I didnt even use my OWN treat! I took it from a second hand plate of birthday cake. How about that Mountebank? Would you even SEE the plate there? Notice that she was drinking sparkling wine and a little hungry? Feeling a little nasty or dirty about eating from another persons plate? From my fingers? Everything is contrast to Japanese culture and 'nice' --- yet --- it's perfectly 'tatemae' because I imply 'honne'.

Yes - I totally agree with you. Please do not be misled by our information. We relate our experiences, wins, losses and efforts - unequivocally. For the benefit of this forum. Sometime there is braggadacio, sometime there is shame. But we know for a fact that many readers here have gleaned something special, added their own, and achieved nice times with special women.

Why do I see so many gaijin now dining at Ass Cafe with a date pulled from nearby Heartland? Is it simply coincidence? I don't think so -- on any night we see our mirror. And you know what?

It works.

Sake Lover

05-24-06, 23:39

Hello, nampa experts!

Any suggestions for short-term visitors coming to the Kanto area on business just for 10 to 14 days?

I've exchanged messages with some of this board's experts in the past.

But can anyone suggest the best international parties or bars, especially if I am traveling alone?

Of course, some of you may suggest CB or AM for such a short-term traveler. I understand that train of thought.

Best regards,

Sake Lover

Gaienmae

05-29-06, 03:51

Hi there,

I've had much success with the conventional GF scene over the years but it's never occurred to me to try nampa. (I think my Judeo-Christian socialisation ingrained in me the belief that nice girls just aren't *that* easily available). This forum has been very encouraging, many thanks for all the information!

I'll be in Tokyo during June and I'm going to have a crack from various angles. I'm in the Ikebukuro area - any good spots there for hitting on (say) OLs or other 25 ~ 35 J-girls? Or indeed anywhere else on the western / northern Yamanote (though I guess Sugamo won't have much potential ;-).

On a related note: are there any clusters of LHs around Ikebukuro? I only recall seeing the odd isolated one.

Two by Four

05-29-06, 11:52

My advice,

Hit it hard your first few days and let it be known that you are in town for just a few weeks. There is something incredibally liberating about knowing you'll be gone soon.

I closed a bank account once and gave the reason for closing the account "leaving the country". The bank teller (OL) perked up and started to chat me up then and even invited me to a tempura restuarant later that evening, coulnd't follow up though, too busy with work, story of my life recently.

2X4

Hello, nampa experts!

Any suggestions for short-term visitors coming to the Kanto area on business just for 10 to 14 days?

Sake Lover

Gaienmae

05-31-06, 17:03

I'm dabbling with a little distance nampa by email, and I've noticed something slightly interesting about some Japanese ISPs: the reverse DNS lookups of the sender's IP sometimes resolve to a name which gives a clue to the location of the person sending the email.

That means if you're inquisitive and can find the IP address of the person sending the mail, it may translate to something like this (fictitious) example:

p12345-ipad32kisaradu.chiba.ocn.ne.jp

Which pretty much locates the sender in Kisarazu, Chiba.

The usefulness of this? I'm exchanging mails with someone who says she works in Tokyo, but has sidestepped my questions on whereabouts she lives, and her IP address locates her on the outer edge of the commuter belt. I'm not interested in a hi-res satellite photo of her home or anything like that, but being aware of a potential distance issue (we're talking about 2 hours train ride) is helpful in deciding strategy (e.g. she's now on the potential timewaster list). Forewarned is forarmed, or something like that.

Finding the sender's IP address is a little tricky at first; basically you need to get your mail client to show all the email headers (some web-based mail such as Yahoo and Gmail also have this option); then look for the last (lowest) header with a name like "Received". If you're lucky this will have a "domain name" of the sort above already in it, if not it will have just the raw IP address. To translate this into a "domain name", use something like the "Network Utility" app in OS X (sorry, no idea if there's a similar utility in Windows), this has a "Lookup" field which you can enter the IP address into and will look up the "domain name" for you (Note: not all IP numbers will have an associated "domain name", and not all ISPs provide useful descriptions.

This does not work for mails sent from mobile phones.

It might be worth noting that many residential broadband connections in Japan have permanent IP addresses, which is something to bear in mind if some degree of "anonymity" in your own online "transactions" is important.

Two by Four

06-01-06, 12:42

Gaienmae

06-01-06, 15:21

I have recently been trying the distance nampa thing too. To separate myself from the pack I am trying to send some copied ASCII art as part of my initial response. I am trying to send an image of a rose. (awwwwwww....how sweet!) When I send it it looks OK.

But when I look in my sent items folder it looks all fVcked up like this:
AFTER SENDING

.---.
/ ` .-.7,--.
/ `. .-''. -, ,/
'[.- -; | ) /
/` / \ ,_) / '-.}
/ ( ( | / .' ) \ }
'. `--,/ .--/ ,]
[. / '-, ^ .'
==,=; `-,__/
|| .==,=...
||/ '. \
||`'=...__\
||
||
||
||
||
||

There are some spaces that have been cut off on the left and the image looks like shit compared to the original.

Is there a techie member who could point me in the right direction with this one? I suppose I could re-draw the image.......but it will take a lot of time, and I didn't do the original. I am sending the emails through a dating site's dediceate email system, not a client like Outlook or Outlook express.

2X4The problem with ASCII art is that it relies on the receiver being able to see it in a non-proportional (i.e. fixed width) font such as Courier. Probably the best way to guarantee this is to send the mail in HTML format (and not as plain text), but that might not be possible on systems like the one you're using.

Maybe you could find some Japanese "ASCII art" (Shift-JIS-Art??), as Japanese is (usually) displayed in fixed-width characters in any case. I seem to recall seeing a 2ch forum dedicated to this, if I find the link I'll let you know.

Two by Four

06-02-06, 12:17

That makes sense. Thanks.

The problem with ASCII art is that it relies on the receiver being able to see it in a non-proportional (i.e. fixed width) font such as Courier. Probably the best way to guarantee this is to send the mail in HTML format (and not as plain text), but that might not be possible on systems like the one you're using.

Maybe you could find some Japanese "ASCII art" (Shift-JIS-Art??), as Japanese is (usually) displayed in fixed-width characters in any case. I seem to recall seeing a 2ch forum dedicated to this, if I find the link I'll let you know.

Gaienmae

06-03-06, 05:11

Regarding my post below, I've just done a little further research and discovered that for hostnames ending in "prefecture.ocn.ne.jp" the town name is in fact the location of that provider's operating center within the prefecture.

Nevertheless in my particular case that still puts my email partner two prefectures out from Tokyo, though now within a more plausible commuting distance if she's not in the town I originally thought she was. I asked her to suggest a place to meet, indicating anywhere around the Yamanote Line is fine for me, and she promptly came back with somewhere close to the station at the end of the line which goes out to her prefecture.

Next step is to make sure she's not just interested in free eikaiwa.

FlyingFlying

06-04-06, 13:26

Gaienmae

06-04-06, 14:00

Well, my email date turned out to be nice to talk to, but is 28, lives with her parents at the wrong end of a notorious commuting hellhole and I suspect still has her umeboshi intact.

While mulling through the post-mortem on the way back (if nothing else I gained a few useful insights into the mind of Contemporary Japanese Woman which I can put to good use later, didn't realise quite how out of practice at this sort of thing I am), I thought up a useful motto to quel any sense of discouragement:

"There are plenty more fish in the barrel"

;-)

Gaienmae

06-05-06, 14:28

Gaienmae,

If possible, schedule your meeting with the girl late in the day or even after dinner. If she just wants to meet you for lunch/the middle of the day, she might be only after English practice time. Asking her to meet you for drinks in the evening might drop a clue to her. But even if her main goal is someone to practice English with, you can make sure she give you what you want as well.Yup, a 12am date on a Sunday in Ueno when I had only faint recollections of the area and a fuzzy head from jetlag was not maybe one of my brightest ideas. Now, if the operators of Ueno Zoo had the sense to construct an exit direct from the nocturnal creatures house leading in the direction of Uguisudani, things might have turned out different. Still, at least I've finally visited the zoo after all these years.

Now if you'll excuse me I must pop off to polish my asoboo profile.

Drunk Nanpa

06-09-06, 04:49

I haven't seen much of this mentioned here, but I've always had my best success in nanpa doing it the classic Japanese way: drunk. Sure, you can find great chics anywhere (trains, offices, basically whenever you don't expect it) but I think the best practice comes from a straight out all-night assault - and this is done most easily when drinking. I typically practice this in Shinjuku or Shibuya on a weekend night, and end up talking to countless women.

Though you hit a lot of brick walls this way, the game of numbers also guarantees you still get some who are interested, and from that sample you get phone numbers and/or sex. Some even want to go straight to a love hotel (rare, but it happens). I don't know if maybe some of you would consider this just a "college" way fo getting pussy, but it still works for me in the adult world.

Well, what's the consensus on this style of drunken nanpa? Any thoughts from fellow hunters out there?

Drunk Nanpa since 2001
http://www.drunknanpa.com/

Gaienmae

06-10-06, 02:16

Well, what's the consensus on this style of drunken nanpa? Any thoughts from fellow hunters out there?Fascinating stuff. Personally I find the other way round more efficient, although it's taken some time to get to be able to judge the right dosage.

You may want someone to check up on your liver in the next couple of years.

Nihongobrit

06-10-06, 07:45

Based here in Azabu area, does anyone have any recommendations for places to go watch the England soccer match and mingle with J-girls for fun times after the game, all while being a bit rowdy and drinking big beer?

I guess Roppongi is the obvious place, but bar suggestions would be of great help!

Also, rather than have us walk in as individuals, if anyone is up for getting a group of guys together, lets pick a place and work it over. IM me or post by 7pm if possible....

By the way, I read DrunkNanpa's blog, that guy is a riot! Way out of my league, but a great read. Good luck DrunkNanpa. Is your liver insured for a lot of money?

Cheers,

Nihongobrit

Gaienmae

06-10-06, 19:09

Based here in Azabu area, does anyone have any recommendations for places to go watch the England soccer match and mingle with J-girls for fun times after the game, all while being a bit rowdy and drinking big beer?

I guess Roppongi is the obvious place, but bar suggestions would be of great help!

Also, rather than have us walk in as individuals, if anyone is up for getting a group of guys together, lets pick a place and work it over. IM me or post by 7pm if possible....
This week's Metropolis has a "special pull-out guide" (sic) listing likely venues for watching matches, but AFAICS nothing in Azabu. Sonoma in Dogenzaka looks like it could be interesting. I'm good for most match dates in June.

Spooje

06-10-06, 23:44

Based here in Azabu area, does anyone have any recommendations for places to go watch the England soccer match and mingle with J-girls for fun times after the game, all while being a bit rowdy and drinking big beer? Paddy Foley's in Roppongi is good. Lots of Ozzies hang out there and a fair number of women wander in. Zest in Ebisu always has the games on a big screen, but I wouldn't try there unless you speak Japanese reasonably well, I've had good luck though.

Gaienmae

06-12-06, 11:02

I'm discovering that the lack of a keitai (mobile phone) is quite a hindrance to nanpa and related efforts. Based on advice in this forum I was going to obtain a prepaid keitai but it turns out they're no longer available to anyone without a permanent address in Japan, i.e. particularly not to visitors on a 90 day tourist visa. The only option available seems to be renting a mobile, which seems much more expensive; there were some booths at Narita, but I'm not trailing all the way back out there to find out.

Anyone know if rental mobiles are available in the centre of Tokyo, or of any viable alternatives for this poor phoneless soul?

Drunk Nanpa

06-13-06, 05:52

When I came here for a 3 week visit a couple years back, I also had no luck getting a rental or prepaid phone. I ended up having to just buy a 1 yen phone at Yodobashi Camera, pay my month of usage, and the 3000 yen cancellation fee at the end. For foreigners without a "gaijin card" you need to pay with a major credit card, but you can do that without fuss. I also had used my friend's address with whom I was staying, which wasn't a problem.

In fact, I was 100% the whole time, explaining to the guy how I just wanted the phone for 3 weeks and intended to cancel it. If you can communicate your plan, they're really helpful.

Good luck!

Drunk Nanpa since 2001
http://www.drunknanpa.com/

Jack First

06-13-06, 10:11

You can rent a mobile at a Vodafone store. Go to the nearest one, or go to this one for service in English:

http://www.vodafone.jp/scripts/english/faq/detail.jsp?oid=537122788
Docomo and other stores in my experience are a hit and miss with their availability.

I'm discovering that the lack of a keitai (mobile phone) is quite a hindrance to nanpa and related efforts. Based on advice in this forum I was going to obtain a prepaid keitai but it turns out they're no longer available to anyone without a permanent address in Japan, i.e. particularly not to visitors on a 90 day tourist visa. The only option available seems to be renting a mobile, which seems much more expensive; there were some booths at Narita, but I'm not trailing all the way back out there to find out.

Anyone know if rental mobiles are available in the centre of Tokyo, or of any viable alternatives for this poor phoneless soul?

Gaienmae

06-14-06, 01:34

Kack First, Drunk Nanpa:

Thanks for the tips. I did post the result of my trip to the Vodafone store in Shibuya, but it seems not to have been moderated. Anyway, it seems a prepaid is no problem, all they wanted was my passport (though I suspect being able to conduct the transaction in Japanese helped). The downside is the prepaid model they have on offer is a nasty yellow colour, looks like a banana when it's opened up. Got a mail from a prospective on it already :-)

Manatsu

06-14-06, 06:06

In regards to keitai
Narita had rental keitais. Pretty good deal. Available in most international airports might be available at Haneda also. Make sure to pick one up the next time you go there.

BikeRider

06-15-06, 14:45

In regards to keitai
Narita had rental keitais. Pretty good deal. Available in most international airports might be available at Haneda also. Make sure to pick one up the next time you go there.

Be careful with these- the last time I rented a phone at Narita it showed up as a pay phone on the called parties caller ID. I didn't investigate it further as to why, but it certainly isn't good for nampa.

FreeStyler69

07-03-06, 12:54

Guys,

I will be in Osaka for a few nights and I really don't enjoy those bars and gentlemen clubs that my vusiness associates would bring me everytime. Looking to try some nampa although I'm totally new to this.

Need some suggestion on clubs/discos in Osaka where I can meet and try my nampa skills. Speaks little japanese but if yukuri hanshite wa wakarimasu!

Brussel

07-03-06, 23:29

Hello Guys,

Brussel (that's me) will be in Tokyo for 3 weeks in July - August.

One night, on august 3, I will be in the Hilton in Nagoya. Does anyone know where I can go to try some nampa in the evening (Is there something like Tokyo Heartland in Nagoya.

I would realy be greatfull for your help. If any of you would like to double-team, I am also open for it.

If any of you ever need any help in Begium I would be glad to return the favor.

Lion

07-04-06, 00:42

FreeStyler69

07-04-06, 03:19

Pick up a Kansai Time-Out or Kansai scene for a map of the hot spots (Japanzine is also OK).

Club Pure is one place, as is Sam&Daves (about 3 of them).Thanks Lion.

Will do just dat. Pretty hard to find discotheques or party places like in every foriegn country. Japan is one strange place, thinking back. I've never ever seen a disco yet while in japan. Gotta hit one next week.

Texanboot

07-04-06, 10:47

Soujourn

07-06-06, 08:41

Casual nanpa today - lunch with friends and there was cute chick with them. One of the guys I had been tutoring a bit in some nanpa tactics and he was showing off in front of me. It was actually a bit disturbing to watch! So, to put the girl (and him) at ease - I simply followed through his tactics with her as careful 'instruction' for both of them. It was hilarious and they both had a great time. At the end, I showed him how to catch her number -- and her how to give it gracefully - of course to me. Exit the restaraunt. Within 5min I have email from her asking for another 'lesson'. Mid 20's, 9 figure, 8 face, own apartment in Tokyo. Any takers?

Two by Four

07-23-06, 14:08

Hey Brussel,

Let's see August 3rd is a Thursday night. That's good b/c mon and Tues night suck for nampa. Thursday night, at least you have a chance.

Here is your hit list. Shooters, Elephants Nest, Red Rock, HUB, 59s, My Bar, and (Flavor if you are into the dance-club scene gets busy after 1am)

Good luck....Nagoya is nothing like the Tokyo nampa scene....it's fairly difficult to pull unless you are tall, young and blond.

2X4

Hello Guys,

Brussel (that's me) will be in Tokyo for 3 weeks in July - August.

One night, on august 3, I will be in the Hilton in Nagoya. Does anyone know where I can go to try some nampa in the evening (Is there something like Tokyo Heartland in Nagoya.

I would realy be greatfull for your help. If any of you would like to double-team, I am also open for it.

If any of you ever need any help in Begium I would be glad to return the favor.

Two by Four

08-10-06, 12:56

Long holiday coming up! Nampa alert for this coming Saturday and Sunday nights.

2X4

Mak Daddy

08-11-06, 02:24

Of course I am looking for 18 years or older, but does any one have any suggestions for picking up high school checks. I tried the web search for enjyo koosai, and all I get is spam.

FlyingFlying

08-11-06, 06:36

Of course I am looking for 18 years or older, but does any one have any suggestions for picking up high school checks. I tried the web search for enjyo koosai, and all I get is spam.Most websites are just spam, but a site like lovelovemail.com might work. Otherwise, I suggest you go to your local game center and try picking up girls yourself.

Mak Daddy

08-11-06, 08:38

There are a million of those sites, and most of them are just spam. The women on them are fakes generated by the site's administrators. The best site I have found is Yahoo. I have gotten some good dates out of that. ONe real sweety I have been dating for months went right home with me when we met at the train station. Koreancupid isn't bad either. I have yet to try Japancupid.

Most websites are just spam, but a site like lovelovemail.com might work. Otherwise, I suggest you go to your local game center and try picking up girls yourself.

Two by Four

08-13-06, 16:32

As a fledgling nampa artist I'd like to share a recent experience with the board and solicit commentary from those well versed in the nampa arts.

Met a very hot 24 yo cutie last week, phoned each other a few times, agreed to meet tonight, but at the last minute she calls and says "Is it OK if I bring a friend?" I am thinking "WTF is this" but relented and siad it was OK. We meet, and said friend is a guy who she lives with. Not romantically invloved with him but still the 3rd wheel is a guy! So I play along for a few hours, start to get really bored, dude is really boring to talk to so this messes up my mojo and its becoming difficult for me to talk to the young hot babe. Cant take it anymore and suddenly ask if I can speak to her in private.

So I lead her out of the bar and tell her I am "angry". I dont REALLY have an angry tone but my play angry tone. I tell her I thought we were going to meet just the 2 of us and that if she's going to make it a group party to give me at least a 24 hour advance notice. So she starts apologizing and says next time we go out it will be just the 2 of us. I tell her she owes me a kiss, which she agrees to with some hesitation.

So that's it.

i'm wondering if she is just testing me, or is not into me, or is just young and clueless. Clearly its not a good sign if a friend gets invited on a date, but ive had this happen sometimes in the past and the friend usually dissappears by the 2nd date.

2 X 4

As a funnny side note, a big boned white girl who was flirting with me gave me her number as I was leaving. I could have scored with her but Im into thin girls.

Drunk Nanpa

08-16-06, 04:47

Hey guys,

I'd like to ask some advice about finding hotels in Shinjuku on a Saturday night. The situation is that I live an hour out of town with the girlfriend, and I need a place to bonk a freshly nanpa'd girl late Saturday in town. I won't be meeting her until after 10pm, which rules out my normal strategies. And of course, I don't want to put money down on a place when there's a chance she could not show up or whatever.

I've stayed in hotels all around Shinjuku and Shibuya before (love hotels, business hotels) but the problem here is time. Any reservation I can make now at a normal place will need to be paid for or cancelled well before I meet her. And every decent priced place I know is going to be booked by the day before. Love hotels, of course, are just walk in service but I'd bet money that every single one is completely full by 11pm or 12am.

Basically, I guess I'm asking if anyone here knows of some special awesome hotel that is semi-reliable for late-night Saturday checkins.

Thanks for any help,

Drunk Nanpa

http://www.drunknanpa.com/

Little Jared

08-17-06, 06:37

Mak Daddy,

just one question : when you say yahoo, is that yahoo Q/A?

just to know. Thank you .

Soujourn

08-17-06, 09:09

Hey DN -- Shinjuku is jam packed with LH's -- and they are the best in Tokyo! I think ANY fresh nanpa would love to have the Shinjuku LH experience. No reservations required - there are so many hotels around that you can easily find a nice one on the spot.

If you are worried about chance of them being full, then just take a very short trip - 10min (taxi of course) to Shin Okubo - ton's of LH's there, too.

Another option is going to a couple kissa or happening bar. You can bang her away to your hearts content -- and maybe if you're lucky, snag a 3p or 4p on the way. (http://www.dreamone-shinjuku.info/)

Last resort is to take her to one of the internet cubicle places. Always great for a quickie. Or - to the karaoke boxes.

Nice thing about Tokyo - there's always SOME place available to boink your date - whether its a superfine hotel or just 4 walls and a mat!

S.

Mak Daddy

08-17-06, 09:41

I don't know what Yahoo Q/A is, but it used to be called Yahoo Personals. Now it is Yahoo Partners. See http://partner.yahoo.co.jp/

Mak Daddy,

just one question : when you say yahoo, is that yahoo Q/A?

just to know. Thank you .

ScorpioKing

08-18-06, 18:19

I will be at Shinjuku Washington Hotel from september 1 to 28th. If any couple just hanging for finding a suitable room, you can come to my room. I would appreciate if you kindly permit me also to play or watch.

Little Jared

08-22-06, 05:47

WTF was I thinking for not going sooner for a Kabukicho by night walk. The place is said dangerous, but as long as you walk in line and don't disturb the yakuzas, you are pretty safe in there. And overall, plenty of gorgeous J-babes for you (provided you can make the difference between them and hostesses (and whatever-is-in-my-pants-undetermined-creatures))
So last night I was walking down Yasukuni Dôri and crossed the street near the Don Quichotte when 2 angels (Barely 40 years old, ages added), fantastic faces, awesome bodies, the sexiest clothes ever, started looking at me. I first thought they only were looking at something/someone in my direction, but I returned them a smile anyway. Since they smiled me back and the one on the right waved me hello, I got that that was my lucky night. One hello-wave-whatever later, they came to me and started discussing with me, "where are you from", "waaa your japanese is so good" (yeah, right) and "Europeans are so Kakkoii", as you can see very philosophical issues ^^
10 minutes and that was it. I had the smartest idea ever to ask them both as a joke to go to the Love Hotel with me. While I made a big smile which was supposed to say "If you don't want to, hey just kidding! unless you do..."
They looked at each other and when I saw them smiling as a mutual agreement I couldn't believe that it was happening to me.

I gotta say the hotel we went was probably not the best one in Shinjuku, but surely it was my greatest time ever. Stayed for 8 hours and then I went back home and had a great nap (of course it would have been a crime to sleep with two such beauties in your bed), you shall understand that I’m a bit tired. 1:46PM, just woke up, ready for the breakfast…

Sad that it was just a one night thing. But doesn’t that make those even more magical?

Jared

Drunk Nanpa

08-23-06, 03:58

Thanks for the encouragement. I've had hotel problems before, so I was a bit worried, but it worked out this time. I ended up stomping around Shibuya at 3am and the first hotel I found had an empty room; in we went. Great night.

Drunk Nanpa

www.drunknanpa.com

Hey DN -- Shinjuku is jam packed with LH's -- and they are the best in Tokyo! I think ANY fresh nanpa would love to have the Shinjuku LH experience. No reservations required - there are so many hotels around that you can easily find a nice one on the spot.

S.

Superforce99

08-25-06, 03:28

Thanks for the encouragement. I've had hotel problems before, so I was a bit worried, but it worked out this time. I ended up stomping around Shibuya at 3am and the first hotel I found had an empty room; in we went. Great night.

Drunk Nanpa

www.drunknanpa.com

Hey DN,

I got a chance to look through your website and it is hilariously disturbing comedic
genius material that I couldn't stop reading....

I gotta believe that more than a few of your characters have seen your play-by-play
of their involvement with you and have made efforts to hurt/kill you man!

Keep up the great work...

J

Little Jared

08-30-06, 09:37

Glad that things went well for you DN.

Yesterday I saw the holy light. Whereas a couple of months ago I had no idea of how to nampa, I scored another 3P in... Motown.

According to what I know (and have heard) about the place, if you can manage it there you can manage it anywhere. Nice horny little girls without penis (if you know motown you will understand why I am precising that), 25 and 23, 7-8 on my sexy scale. but only one hour of fun, such a shame. but a great hour.

definitely charmed by this nampa thing. but still dont know if I had luck or what since generally in front of a cutie I have no idea of what to do and what to say...

Mak Daddy

08-30-06, 09:50

I don't mean to rain on your parade, a 3P is a good accomplishment anyhwere, and I congratulate you, but you have it backwards about Motown, I think it is if you can't score in Motown you can't score anywhere.

Roppongi is Japanese life in a bubble. I was well into Roppongi when I first arrived in Japan, but, for me, it grew old fast. The women are, you could say, of a certain type. The real Japan is in places like Ikebukuro, Ueno, or not even in Tokyo for that matter. Foreigners get a distilled version of Japan from what they see in Tokyo. It would be like judging America by New York City.

Living in rural places like Tohoku or Kyushu gives you a better idea of what real Japanese are like. If you can score in the boondocks, you can score anywhere. I now live in Osaka, and it is a bit more Japanese, but still not typical. But then again, what is typical anyway?

Once more, well done on the 3P, and keep up the good work. The luck is in the sheer number of hits you make. If you ever visit Kansai let me know. I will buy you a beer.

Glad that things went well for you DN.

Yesterday I saw the holy light. Whereas a couple of months ago I had no idea of how to nampa, I scored another 3P in. Motown.

According to what I know (and have heard) about the place, if you can manage it there you can manage it anywhere. Nice horny little girls without penis (if you know motown you will understand why I am precising that), 25 and 23, 7-8 on my sexy scale. but only one hour of fun, such a shame. but a great hour.

Definitely charmed by this nampa thing. but still dont know if I had luck or what since generally in front of a cutie I have no idea of what to do and what to say.

Mak Daddy

08-31-06, 02:45

This is a review of a book, Ero-Samurai by David D. Duff. iUniverse Inc., that might be of interest to some of the participants here:

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/member/member.html?mode=getarticle&file=fb20060827a3.html

Another couple books that are classics, and well known to any Japanese:

The Life of an Amorous Man by Saikaku Ihara
http://www.amazon.com/Life-an-Amorous-Man/dp/0804810699/sr=8-1/qid=1156988522/ref=sr_1_1/002-9626191-7753633?ie=UTF8

and

Five Women Who Loved Love also by Ihara Saikaku
http://www.amazon.com/Five-Women-Who-Loved-Love/dp/0804801843/sr=1-1/qid=1156988615/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9626191-7753633?ie=UTF8&s=books

Both books are several hundred years old.

Hunt on!

Bifster

08-31-06, 13:47

Little Jared

08-31-06, 15:32

I'm sorry to insist, but...

I know a little (not perfectly of course) about what we can call the real Japan. Of course Motown is not Roppongi, Roppongi is not Tokyo and Tokyo is not Japan. But what I mean is, Motown is so full of gaijin, *****s and transexuals that if you do want to score with a genuine cutie J-girl in that place, that will not be a piece of cake and I find it a much easier thing to manage in places like Vanilla, a couple of blocks away.

I understand that you can say "If I can't do it at Motown, I won't be able to do it anywhere". But my opinion is the complete opposite... this may also be a question of point of view.

PS @ Mak Daddy : As I am half Kansaijin I have planned to come to Osaka next week for a couple of days. As you offered, I would be glad to have a beer and maybe go down the Osaka streets (that I'm ashamed to say, I dont know much...)

Jared

Mak Daddy

09-01-06, 04:35

Yea, I agree with you about Motown. I don't know Vanilla, but then the last time I went to Roppongi regularly was more than a decade ago, which would explain why I have less hair growing out of my head these days, and more hair growing out of my nose.

My girlfriend will be here visiting next week, but I should be able to get away for a bit. How can I contact you?

I'm sorry to insist, but...

I know a little (not perfectly of course) about what we can call the real Japan. Of course Motown is not Roppongi, Roppongi is not Tokyo and Tokyo is not Japan. But what I mean is, Motown is so full of gaijin, *****s and transexuals that if you do want to score with a genuine cutie J-girl in that place, that will not be a piece of cake and I find it a much easier thing to manage in places like Vanilla, a couple of blocks away.

I understand that you can say "If I can't do it at Motown, I won't be able to do it anywhere". But my opinion is the complete opposite... this may also be a question of point of view.

PS @ Mak Daddy : As I am half Kansaijin I have planned to come to Osaka next week for a couple of days. As you offered, I would be glad to have a beer and maybe go down the Osaka streets (that I'm ashamed to say, I dont know much...)

Jared

Little Jared

09-01-06, 08:05

You can PM me. But it seems that you don't accept them...

Mak Daddy

09-01-06, 11:07

Oh, I accept them. I am just cheap about forking over $12.95. In the interest of helping starving children in Argentina though, I figure, what the heck. I signed up for PM, and it will be activated in about 24 hours.

You can PM me. But it seems that you don't accept them...

Little Jared

09-02-06, 09:15

ok, done then.

so what's new in nampa scene?

Two by Four

09-03-06, 10:52

This mesage was confusing

Little Jared

09-03-06, 17:51

you know, actually that was not a strategy at all, I really asked it as a joke.
Sometimes I feel very thankful to Mother Nature who gave me my lousy-but-sometimes-useful sense of humor.

Because I'm only 23 and still don't have enough experience to have something to say, at any time, any context. So that's all I've got (smile)

Two by Four

09-04-06, 02:33

Topos, thanks for your er....spirited response.

FYI I am not in Tokyo or Osaka and can't travel there b/c of work so most of the info on these boards is not particularly useful. I do read, just can't get to the big cities.

And I'm not thinking of chatting up random J girls and asking to go to a hotel. I said that I wanted pointers from transitioning from date mode (girl I know, have her # and am currently drinking/singing karaoke with) to hotel mode and thought that Jared's "Hotel" thing said half jokingly with a non-threatening smile might be a good strategy. If she says no you can always say, "Just kidding"

Actually you misread so many of my comments that I'll pull down the post. Don't want to spread miscommunication. Nice to know I can get you going though....

2X4

Mak Daddy

09-04-06, 03:04

Who are you the PTA? There is something wrong with the moral superiority of people like Topos and Crikey (see the Osaka Forum). It is a SEX SITE STUPID. Of course he is supposed to see if he can get her to a room in the first 20 minutes. Some of the best women I have met are the ones with guts to go for it, and the interest in sex. I end up dating them for years. Stop getting your nickers in a twist, grandma! Perhaps you should change your handle to Jerry Falwell.

[QUOTE=Two by Four]I am having trouble adjustinn my nampa program/order of evenings events when I have a date.

HOLLY CRAP..........Now I had to reply to this one, and I don`t do this often but this one got me going.

Does anyone else want to slap you or is it just me.

How many people score on a first double date with his friend, unless they look like brad pitt.

Anyway I was wondering was it a regular hotel or Love hotel, if a love Hotel bad choice on a first double date.

If his Hotel you were there at 1.00am and didn`t score..........What the hell went wrong.

Anyway the one who had to work could have stayed and gone from there.

And stop drinking yes,.......Then lets start the sex.........Hmmmmm!!!

You say you can chat them up and get numbers, hope your not refering to this night (this was different).

Then you say.........
but when it comes time to get them alone in a room somewhere I am having trouble closing the deal. Any pointers?

Does that mean you can`t get them to the room....or your in the room, if your in the room there must be something wrong.

To be honest I don`t Nampa too often too draining sometimes, and I have a regular on call, I have no problem getting numbers and or Emails.

I`m off to Singapore at the end of the month, I already have 4 phone numbers off the internet, and I`m only there for 3 days so going to be interesting.

Please don`t use little Jared`s (shear luck line) the last thing we want is the reputation of Gaijin walking around asking Ladies to go to a love hotel in the first 20min of talking.

Jared was sooooooo luck and lucky for him he made a good call that time, many times you might just get a slap in the face, or worse the B/F is close by.

Oh BTW what time did this double date start, I was wondering how long it took you to get to the Hotel.

Please take my comments with tongue and cheek, but RTFB and see what other people do.

I too have had successes and failures, and there are many places to pick from, Yes Nampa can be fun and you spend a bit of money for no result, but sometimes I use the places like (Asian Mystique) and yes expensive but I have scored everytime and good service.

I still have one who hangs around the Machida love hotels, man can she F**k but last time I was there all the SW were fighting about something, my regular was there but I flagged her away, Just said too much noise you will get LE`s attention fighting like this.(She looked pissed)

2X4 if you really want to score there are other places to go, the forum has many hints READ MY FRIEND!!!!!

TOPOS

Mak Daddy

09-04-06, 03:06

Put it back up! I want to read it. Don't let yourself be intimidated by people like Topos. That is the whole point of this site. Come on, lets see it.

Topos, thanks for your er....spirited response.

Actually you misread so many of my comments that I'll pull down the post. Don't want to spread miscommunication. Nice to know I can get you going though....

2X4

James Malrin

09-04-06, 07:19

Topos

09-04-06, 16:47

I knew this would get you people going HAHAAHAHAHAH

Hey mak Daddy I`m not the PTA Just like everyone else expressing my thoughts.

Anyway 2X4 took it down knowing that I did not missread it.

I was pointing out some of the things he was saying made me think HUH!!!

And I`m not intimidating anyone, as you are doing to me. Hmmm!

Yes 2 x 4 put it back up, but maybe this time it will be modified.

I just saying what I read was funny to say the least.

Hey Mak daddy don`t get YOUR knickers in a twist!!!

TOPOS:)

Topos

09-04-06, 16:54

Monday Night (Tonight) was in Kawasaki and had 30 min to kill, time about 9:15.

Went for a walk round the booth area and low and behold about 10 booths open for business and some nice looking ladies too.

Down the opposite end there is one booth alone with 2 non asian`s in there, so I guess maybe things are slowly getting back to the old days.

But I don`t think Koganchuo will be back beacuse they have built a police box in one of the old booths right in the middle, although I saw no LE there.

See Ya!!
TOPOS

Mak Daddy

09-05-06, 03:04

PTA poster child: If intimidation is protecting the right of someone who is not hurting others to enjoy himself, then you could say I am intimidating you. However, if you use that as your definition of intimidation, you could call any effort at self-protection intimidation. You took the first swipe, so I am responding from a defensive postion.

2x4: put it back up unedited! If nowhere else, we demand freedom of expression here ! (Righteous indignation feeels soo good!) At least post the original, and then post an explanation for people like Topos (AKA Jerry Falwell).

Ohhh, twisty knickers. My knickers are sooo twisted. Ohhh, it hoits, it hoits!

I knew this would get you people going HAHAAHAHAHAH

Hey mak Daddy I`m not the PTA Just like everyone else expressing my thoughts.

Anyway 2X4 took it down knowing that I did not missread it.

I was pointing out some of the things he was saying made me think HUH!!!

And I`m not intimidating anyone, as you are doing to me. Hmmm!

Yes 2 x 4 put it back up, but maybe this time it will be modified.

I just saying what I read was funny to say the least.

Hey Mak daddy don`t get YOUR knickers in a twist!!!

TOPOS:)

Mak Daddy

09-06-06, 03:06

Check out this months Japanzine for a cover story on the sex industry in Japan:
see http://www.seekjapan.jp/japanzine

Another interesting site they mention in the magazine: http://www.jsexnetwork.com/interviews/

Mak Daddy

09-06-06, 03:07

And don't bother trying to pass your rantings off as joke after the fact. That is too transparent.

I knew this would get you people going HAHAAHAHAHAH
TOPOS:)

Two by Four

09-06-06, 13:50

Mak Daddy....I'd put it back up but I just deleted the whole damn thing after it got SOMEBODYS panties in a wad......seriously I have to fight with assholes all day long at work and I'll be dammned if I am going to do it on my free time. In fact that special somebody is going on my ignore list as we speak.....goodbye forever. Ahhhhhhhhhh that felt good.

The post was no big deal. I was just interested how in a nampa/date situation how people make the leap from karaoke/drinks at a bar to love hotel. I've tried several ways and just asking "asobini ikimashooka" seems to be the best way. i've tried going to a hotel without asking and that never seems to work out for me. I'm interested in others experiences.

I was mixing that question with a recap of a sepcific double date situation I went on and thats where the confusion started.

Anyway peace

2X4

Topos

09-06-06, 15:19

Mak daddy I`m not passing anything off

Also I have a right to express my opinion as you do and I defend that right, your comments are noted.......Move on!!!

And lastly well what a surprise the post that started all this has been deleted, should have put money on that happening.

Final question Mak daddy how can you defend something you did not read?

Oh and 2 x 4 I wish you luck in your future mongering Ignored or not!!!

Topos

Mak Daddy

09-07-06, 02:19

That is easy. I am an attorney. Freedom of expression is not subject to the particularities of what is expressed.

Final question Mak daddy how can you defend something you did not read?

Topos

Mak Daddy

09-07-06, 05:55

That is an excellent, and valid question. I will tell you what has worked spectacularly for me in the past, although recently I have become sloppy and I don't use it as much as I should. Say: 他の飲みな所に行きましょうか。(Hoka no nomi na tokoro ni ikimasyou ka?) i.e. Would you like to go to another place to drink? I am not exactly sure about the grammar, but the idea is that you never, ever force them to admit that the next step is more intimate. You always leave it vague in classic Japanese fashion. They may know, and they may not want to admit it to themselves. Then you just take them to the place: hotel/your apartment.

No matter how many times they keep asking you on the way or in the taxi, just say, 'We are going to another place to drink.' Stick with that, and you will easily double your success rate.

Have fun, and happy hunting!

The post was no big deal. I was just interested how in a nampa/date situation how people make the leap from karaoke/drinks at a bar to love hotel. I've tried several ways and just asking "asobini ikimashooka" seems to be the best way. i've tried going to a hotel without asking and that never seems to work out for me. I'm interested in others experiences.

2X4

Topos

09-07-06, 16:05

That is easy. I am an attorney. Freedom of expression is not subject to the particularities of what is expressed.

Oh your an attorny well that explains everything.

Topos

Soujourn

09-07-06, 18:28

Did you read the article Mac Daddy referred to? About the poor hostess cum soapland girl now virtually homeless and in debt. I love it! Japan is full of women like this who rode high on the bubble (and pockets) of the salarymen and executives. Now they are in their 30's, spent all their money on Louis Vuitton and still have 'the habit'. What they generally desire most is comfort and a slim chance to marry the man of their dreams.

Since their dreams have become nightmares, Mr. Right Now is generally good enough. Gentlemen, do not overlook the 'christmas cake nanpa'. It is just as sweet and tender. Especially for those of us who look farther back (than forward ) into life.

I'm getting no fewer than 5 emails a day from 3 women who are literally begging for companionship and .... benefits.

If you find places like Motown, Heartland, 911, etc intimidating - then I suggest a quiet trip uptown to more sophisiticated mature haunts. Take a stroll through Mitsokoshi or another nice Ginza store - window shoppers for men are there.

Anyway - Japan is a rapidly aging country. More than 50% of the population is over 50. The women under 30 are obsessively targeted while the women over 30 are left to rust in the corner. Do the math.

S.

Roaddog

09-08-06, 01:55

did you read the article mac daddy referred to? about the poor hostess cum soapland girl now virtually homeless and in debt. i love it! japan is full of women like this who rode high on the bubble (and pockets) of the salarymen and executives. now they are in their 30's, spent all their money on louis vuitton and still have 'the habit'. what they generally desire most is comfort and a slim chance to marry the man of their dreams.

since their dreams have become nightmares, mr. right now is generally good enough. gentlemen, do not overlook the 'christmas cake nanpa'. it is just as sweet and tender. especially for those of us who look farther back (than forward ) into life.

i'm getting no fewer than 5 emails a day from 3 women who are literally begging for companionship and .... benefits.

if you find places like motown, heartland, 911, etc intimidating - then i suggest a quiet trip uptown to more sophisiticated mature haunts. take a stroll through mitsokoshi or another nice ginza store - window shoppers for men are there.

anyway - japan is a rapidly aging country. more than 50% of the population is over 50. the women under 30 are obsessively targeted while the women over 30 are left to rust in the corner. do the math.

s.dammit sojourn you let the cat out of the bag.

that was my plan to pick up more of these 30 somethings. i have a few rep001tered about the country. and yes he is right, they "christmas cakes" are desperate to have a relationship. some of these "christmas cakes" will do anytrhing to hold a man even if it requires them to degrade themselves.

but be careful, some of them don't play with a full deck.

BigDudegso

09-08-06, 04:31

Yeah I've had a few crazy experiences with the over 30 japanese women. One woman I couldnt shake and she let me film her whenever I wanted. Then one day I disappeared hope she doesnt find me back in America!

Nampa Guy

09-08-06, 06:56

Yeah I've had a few crazy experiences with the over 30 japanese women.I have been lurking for a while and decided to post after the dust settled from the last spat on here.

Thru information gleaned from this forum I have managed to put together a few sex friends. I did not know about this concept of sex friend until I started living in Japan. It is basically a NSA relationship where you meet for sex in a healthy manner and then leave. There is no daily email, telephone calls, gifts etc. just routine meetings at a love hotel. I would like to take an opinion poll on what makes a good sex friend.
My idea would be the 30-35 YO group makes the best sex friend. Stable, not emotional, has some money and experience. Any opinions here?

Roaddog

09-08-06, 19:09

I have been lurking for a while and decided to post after the dust settled from the last spat on here.

Thru information gleaned from this forum I have managed to put together a few sex friends. I did not know about this concept of sex friend until I started living in Japan. It is basically a NSA relationship where you meet for sex in a healthy manner and then leave. There is no daily email, telephone calls, gifts etc. just routine meetings at a love hotel. I would like to take an opinion poll on what makes a good sex friend.
My idea would be the 30-35 YO group makes the best sex friend. Stable, not emotional, has some money and experience. Any opinions here?I always end up the friend and all those unavoidable calls and emails they all know it is a physical thing but they intend to push that envelop as far as they can. I will not turn down a gift I receive them and reciprocate. If you have any ideas please share. I make friends through their friends and try my luck some talk some don't.

Gorilla182

09-11-06, 09:49

I see a lot of Nampa advices for those living in mainland Japan (Tokyo), but does anybody have any Nampa advice for those of us in Okinawa? What places do we need to hang out at?

Wolf

09-12-06, 05:17

Hi everyone,

Has any of you read this very interesting article on Saturday Sept 9 Asahi Shimbum English EDition regarding Nampa in Tokyo and "Professor" Satoshi Fujita's Nampa lessons ?
Worth a good reading, believe me.
pdf available upon PM.

Enjoy

Wolf

One Eyed Man

09-13-06, 03:21

http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200609090138.html

Hi everyone,

Has any of you read this very interesting article on Saturday Sept 9 Asahi Shimbum English EDition regarding Nampa in Tokyo and "Professor" Satoshi Fujita's Nampa lessons ?
Worth a good reading, believe me.
pdf available upon PM.

Enjoy

Wolf

Soujourn

09-24-06, 07:19

Sheesh -- I'll teach the losers for 15,000 ... no wig required. I bet it's been ages since he stepped into club 22..

S.

Sake Lover

09-30-06, 08:38

Hey,

I was in Tokyo on another biz trip this past week. No opportunity for nampa. But I enjoyed a very casual dinner at an Italian restaurant in Ikebukuro. I was glad to see so many young J-girls at the restaurant. I've always concluded from my own observations in Yokohama and Tokyo that Italian is popular in Japan, primarily with young women. Coz I always see so many pairs and groups of J-girls when I visit such restaurants.

Do you guys agree?

And are such Italian restaurants good places for initiating nampa with a stranger?

Manatsu

10-01-06, 10:49

Soujourn where does the line to signup start!!! 15000Yen is a bargain!

Soujourn

10-04-06, 09:27

Manatsu - how about the 25th (or following thursday thereof) each month at Ass Cafe? AA style -- 'Hello, my name is Jack and I'm a nanpaholic'

Mak Daddy

10-04-06, 09:36

Ok, I am gullible, there isn't really an Ass Cafe is there? How about at Do Osaka? See http://doosaka.com/

Manatsu - how about the 25th (or following thursday thereof) each month at Ass Cafe? AA style -- 'Hello, my name is Jack and I'm a nanpaholic'

Drunk Nanpa

10-06-06, 07:04

Wow, that article was not what I expected. I've no intention to pay out money for nanpa lessons, but it seems he knows what he's about. Although the wig thing was a bit weird. I'm usually busting street nanpa in and around Shinjuku, so for all I know I've seen this guy working his game there too.

Here's to hoping this typhoon weather ends soon. Rainy street nanpa is not my style.

Drunk Nanpa
http://www.drunknanpa.com

Sukebe Gaijin

10-07-06, 14:15

30,000 is pretty cheap compared to Mystery's latest prices.

Then again I don't know how many hours each involve.

Lyraus

10-08-06, 22:59

Well, newbie here, although not a newbie to Japan. Anyway, I've been here about a year but after having been with a gf for the first 8 months, the last 4 have been sexless. I've been clubs a number of times, but haven't been able to pull anything. Got a few numbers, some nice chats, but haven't closed.

All I hear are these stories about people having these incredible experiences and I feel like I'm missing the boat.

Little Jared, you must be one good looking dude to be able to pull two threesomes like that in a matter of a week! Damn, don't know how you people do it. That said, I'll start reading this thread and see if I can figure out where I've been going wrong!

Homban

10-09-06, 12:29

I would like to take an opinion poll on what makes a good sex friend.

My idea would be the 30-35 YO group makes the best sex friend. Stable, not emotional, has some money and experience. Any opinions here?My favorite freebie is in that age range, but she's married with very young children. OK, I hear you say, that means she's hardly ever free, but actually that's perfect for me because...

(1) I only want to nail her once or twice a month anyway - anything more than smells of a "relationship", and...

(2) when she gets a free few hours, she's as horny as a woman can ever possibly be.

Another sex friend I have is also in the same age range, but she's single. After several teary sessions I think I've finally trained her not to get too clingy or emotional. But I'd say go for a married woman everytime. They can be harder to crack, of course, but the rewards are enormous.

Soujourn

10-09-06, 15:45

I will guarantee that for 30k you can call a CB girl to teach you anything you want! Nanpa is not about money - the losers that pay, just do that, lose. Nanpa is only about presenting an open possiblity to another person that happens to be sex. Make it acceptable and practicle - why would they refuse?

Mystery's game wouldn't fly in Japan. Forget about it. First, you probably simply dont have the language skills to pull it off. Secondly none of the gambits make any sense - especially in Japanese. The rest of it just makes you come off looking like a dumb gaijin.

Nanpa is zen. It's about being formless and full of potential. That's what the Japanese women are most intrigued and attracted by. It's an Island for chrissake. Think about it.

S.

Drunk Nanpa

10-10-06, 06:03

My favorite freebie is in that age range, but she's married with very young children. OK, I hear you say, that means she's hardly ever free, but actually that's perfect for me because...I have to voice my agreement with that. I prefer the younger girls, but I just had a couple new 30-somethings recently. One was exactly that: 30-35 age range, married with a couple young kids, and horny for the couple hours she was able to meet. She wants to meet again for sex, but hasn't had the time to bog me down yet. Perfect.

The other was also early 30's, although single. This girl was a typical "bread chick" (prefers western bread to domestic rice, so to speak) and it was even easy to convince her to bang my roommate right after me. Outside of college girls, I'm finding that these early 30's Jgirls are the most eager when it comes to no-strings sex.

Drunk Nanpa
http://www.drunknanpa.com

Lyraus

10-10-06, 15:17

Just wondering what some of your thoughts are on going to clubs solo to nampa? I've done it a few times but always felt a bit selfconscious, plus I didn't have a wingman which was to my disadvantage. Still, managed to meet some cool people and had a good time, but no nampa results.

Anyway, what is the verdict on here? Better to go with a group or solo?

Two by Four

10-11-06, 12:55

Best to go solo to a club where you know the bartenders. That way if you need, you have someone to talk to so you don't feel like an ass, but all the flexibility that comes with a solo mission.

2X4

Just wondering what some of your thoughts are on going to clubs solo to nampa? I've done it a few times but always felt a bit selfconscious, plus I didn't have a wingman which was to my disadvantage. Still, managed to meet some cool people and had a good time, but no nampa results.

Anyway, what is the verdict on here? Better to go with a group or solo?

Lyraus

10-11-06, 14:30

True. I've also found more dance oriented clubs like Womb are easy to go solo because you just blend in, however those places aren't the best for nampa'ing.

Best to go solo to a club where you know the bartenders. That way if you need, you have someone to talk to so you don't feel like an ass, but all the flexibility that comes with a solo mission.

2X4

Soujourn

10-12-06, 05:58

Confidence plays a big part in nanpa. So if you are naturally confident, then going solo or with wingman probably doesn't affect your outcome too much. One advantage of wingman is that in Japan, many of the girls, especially younger, tend to travel in packs or 2 or 3. So splitting out your target 'solo' requires some pretty heavy nanpa. The other girl will almost always try to spoil the situation - as she is 'protecting' her friend and in fact not getting any attention.

So - if you go solo - then shoot for solo girls as your first approach. Or better - approach group of more than 2 girls, then use as a breakaway for the solo girl.

Solo nanpa is good for OL's , street nanpa, train nanpa, shopping nanpa or other situations where you are likely to run into a woman just spending some time alone or not grouped with her friends. Plus - she may be more likely to go to the LH quickly, cause she isn't under scrutiny.

Try both - or pickup a good wingman at the club. Spot the guys who seem to be attracting the girls you want, then hang with them. In almost all cases, playing the girl for a later encounter is best. Like this -- you come into the bar alone, see a girl you want to approach. Then just walk up to her and say something like - "WOW, beautiful shoes (dress, whatever), I'm coming back for you later!" Just short, sweet and indicative of your demand. Don't even give her a chance to answer - just smile an walk away. If she looks a little stunned and 'deer in headlights' , then you prolly made a nice impact. If she smiles and mouth is open a bit - you've hit. Play it for all it's worth - about 8min later. If she smiles, mouth closed, going will be tougher - but still approachable.

In that case - I might return with a 'friend' and do something like - "I want to introduce my friend to you" Then you can use your temporary wingman to feel out the situation. If he hits - then support him, if he's stale - then you can play off it to 'steal her' away. The girls love it. They love to be rescued.

Solo or wing - it's all great. Variety is the spice of nanpa!

S.

Drunk Nanpa

10-12-06, 06:36

I see sometimes guy wanting to meet up for nanpa, so I thought I'd post this here too. Its more a free-for-all party, but if its anything like last there could be a lot of nanpa opportunities for hot girls in costumes. And white girls, if you want a taste for something different.

Saturday, October 28, 2006

JR Shinjuku station, platform 13 (Yamanote bound for Ikebukuro)

Meet where car 10 stops, in front of the escalator from South exit

Everyone boards the 21:07 northbound train and loops around clockwise

B.Y.O.B.

Last year we had enough people to spill into car 9 as well, so tell everyone you know and lets make this one even better.

Drunk Nanpa

http://www.drunknanpa.com/

Roaddog

10-12-06, 13:54

Lyraus

10-12-06, 14:08

Nice post Soujourn.

I went out last weekend solo and chatted up a pair of OL's. Problem was, like you said, I couldn't extricate the one I was interested in as her friend was attached at the hip. I went on a quiet night though, so the pickings were slim and I didn't see any girls there solo.

As far as street, train, or store nampa, I'm a complete rookie at that art, although I was semi-succesful in landing a few dates with a Vodafone shopgirl. Anyway, street nampa on a sober mind is something I need to build up to, me thinks. A few succesful club missions might get me there.

Confidence plays a big part in nanpa. So if you are naturally confident, then going solo or with wingman probably doesn't affect your outcome too much. One advantage of wingman is that in Japan, many of the girls, especially younger, tend to travel in packs or 2 or 3. So splitting out your target 'solo' requires some pretty heavy nanpa. The other girl will almost always try to spoil the situation - as she is 'protecting' her friend and in fact not getting any attention.

So - if you go solo - then shoot for solo girls as your first approach. Or better - approach group of more than 2 girls, then use as a breakaway for the solo girl.

Solo nanpa is good for OL's , street nanpa, train nanpa, shopping nanpa or other situations where you are likely to run into a woman just spending some time alone or not grouped with her friends. Plus - she may be more likely to go to the LH quickly, cause she isn't under scrutiny.

Try both - or pickup a good wingman at the club. Spot the guys who seem to be attracting the girls you want, then hang with them. In almost all cases, playing the girl for a later encounter is best. Like this -- you come into the bar alone, see a girl you want to approach. Then just walk up to her and say something like - "WOW, beautiful shoes (dress, whatever), I'm coming back for you later!" Just short, sweet and indicative of your demand. Don't even give her a chance to answer - just smile an walk away. If she looks a little stunned and 'deer in headlights' , then you prolly made a nice impact. If she smiles and mouth is open a bit - you've hit. Play it for all it's worth - about 8min later. If she smiles, mouth closed, going will be tougher - but still approachable.

In that case - I might return with a 'friend' and do something like - "I want to introduce my friend to you" Then you can use your temporary wingman to feel out the situation. If he hits - then support him, if he's stale - then you can play off it to 'steal her' away. The girls love it. They love to be rescued.

Solo or wing - it's all great. Variety is the spice of nanpa!

S.

Kanda

10-16-06, 03:02

Noticed the posting regarding the Halloween party which has been going on for about 20+ years. Keep in mind that the cops are usually waiting around Ebisu, etc., so prepare for a mad dash if you don't want to get busted. You would think they would cut it off at the source after all this time.

I see sometimes guy wanting to meet up for nanpa, so I thought I'd post this here too. Its more a free-for-all party, but if its anything like last there could be a lot of nanpa opportunities for hot girls in costumes. And white girls, if you want a taste for something different.

Saturday, October 28, 2006

JR Shinjuku station, platform 13 (Yamanote bound for Ikebukuro)

Meet where car 10 stops, in front of the escalator from South exit

Everyone boards the 21:07 northbound train and loops around clockwise

B.Y.O.B.

Last year we had enough people to spill into car 9 as well, so tell everyone you know and lets make this one even better.

Drunk Nanpa

http://www.drunknanpa.com/

Kanda

10-16-06, 03:04

Been always somewhat curious about what these establishments are all about. Usually 3000-4000 for men and free for women. Anyone been?

Drunk Nanpa

10-16-06, 04:48

Noticed the posting regarding the Halloween party which has been going on for about 20+ years. Keep in mind that the cops are usually waiting around Ebisu, etc., so prepare for a mad dash if you don't want to get busted. You would think they would cut it off at the source after all this time.Yeah, I'm hearing all sorts of warnings about the trouble people have had in the past. We had no problems last year, so I'm hoping for the best.

Still, its always best to have a backup plan, and I figure ditching the train in favor of downtown Friday nanpa isn't that bad of an option anyway. Worst case, the party gets broken up and we split off into smaller groups on the prowl.

Drunk Nanpa

http://www.drunknanpa.com/

Lyraus

10-16-06, 12:46

I've heard various things about Club Vanilla. I've never been but I'm thinking about going next weekend. Some people have said the women are amazing but hard as hell to get with, others have said it's a typical roppongi meat market club, albeit a high caliber than some others. So what are your experiences in Vanilla? Ice Queens, ready willing and able, or depends on the night?

Any info would be appreciated..

Lion

10-17-06, 00:57

Halloween party...Keep in mind that the cops are usually waiting around Ebisu, etc., so prepare for a mad dash if you don't want to get busted.

Public drunkeness??? Hahaha, that'll be the day.

Sudsy

10-17-06, 02:49

Public drunkeness??? Hahaha, that'll be the day.They charge you with being a public nuisance. Nice little catch all charge that they can use to bang you away for 3-23 days at leisure before formally indicting you.

Same charge they use to nail you for snapping upskirt photos, incidentally.

Harrytokyo

10-18-06, 17:52

Is this really happenning, I mean for sure people coming in.

On that day, there would be lot of people just standing out there, how do we meet each other.?

Qlso the other option of meeting at some specific place, so that we get to know each other, would be better I guess.

What do you all think?

(to be honest, I am new to his nanpa stuff)

I see sometimes guy wanting to meet up for nanpa, so I thought I'd post this here too. Its more a free-for-all party, but if its anything like last there could be a lot of nanpa opportunities for hot girls in costumes. And white girls, if you want a taste for something different.

Saturday, October 28, 2006

JR Shinjuku station, platform 13 (Yamanote bound for Ikebukuro)

Meet where car 10 stops, in front of the escalator from South exit

Everyone boards the 21:07 northbound train and loops around clockwise

B.Y.O.B.

Last year we had enough people to spill into car 9 as well, so tell everyone you know and lets make this one even better.

Drunk Nanpa

http://www.drunknanpa.com/

Lyraus

10-18-06, 18:16

This has been going on for many years from what I've heard. I suppose you could always join the party at another station as well, so long as you time it correctly.

BTW, how long does the party last? One trip around the Yamanote?

Is this really happenning, I mean for sure people coming in.

On that day, there would be lot of people just standing out there, how do we meet each other.?

Qlso the other option of meeting at some specific place, so that we get to know each other, would be better I guess.

What do you all think?

(to be honest, I am new to his nanpa stuff)

Harrytokyo

10-18-06, 18:18

Been there sometimes, but is both a hit and/or miss.

Better just team up and go, so don't feel alone out there.

Never been there for quite a while, so if you plan to hit the club, let me know.

I've heard various things about Club Vanilla. I've never been but I'm thinking about going next weekend. Some people have said the women are amazing but hard as hell to get with, others have said it's a typical roppongi meat market club, albeit a high caliber than some others. So what are your experiences in Vanilla? Ice Queens, ready willing and able, or depends on the night?

Any info would be appreciated..

Lyraus

10-19-06, 15:43

Harrytokyo

10-19-06, 19:21

Sorry about that Lyraus.

I just joined this forums and my membership is just regular, so I cannot get the PM.

Don't know what other way to contact you.

(cannot type the email address over here)

If we decide on a certain location for a certain time, to meet, then I think we can get in touch with each other.

I would also wanna go there. It has been a long time since.

So this Saturday. All for it.

What time you plan to go?

If we can meet each other on saturday at "almonds" intersection at 2300hrs, that would be cool. what do you say.?

I tried to PM you but you aren't excepting them. Anyway, I'm thinking of heading out Saturday maybe, if you're free to meet up let me know.

BigDudegso

10-19-06, 21:07

Lyraues,

Why don't you go there yourself and see, why do you need anyone to go with you. Meeting chicks at clubs in Roppongi has gotta be one of the easiest things to do.

Lyraus

10-20-06, 03:35

Yeah, Saturday should be OK.."Almonds" at 23:00.

Bigdude, I'm ok clubbing solo but it's always good to have someone to go with as well. Both are fine with me.

Sorry about that Lyraus.

I just joined this forums and my membership is just regular, so I cannot get the PM.

Don't know what other way to contact you.

(cannot type the email address over here)

If we decide on a certain location for a certain time, to meet, then I think we can get in touch with each other.

I would also wanna go there. It has been a long time since.

So this Saturday. All for it.

What time you plan to go?

If we can meet each other on saturday at "almonds" intersection at 2300hrs, that would be cool. what do you say.?

BigDudegso

10-20-06, 04:35

Just smile and be goofy, it works everytime. BTW best room to meet chicks in Vanilla is the hip hop room.

Lyraus

10-23-06, 16:12

Well, Vanilla pretty much lived up to it's rep. Hot girls a plenty, good music, overall cool crowd. As far as a nampa scene, I have to admit I wasn't very aggressive, only made a few approaches, ended up dancing with a couple girls, but nothing much happening. Still, good times.

Other places visited were Motown and Gaspanic. Being my first time in Motown, all I have to say is "sausage fest". Not a single attractive female in the entire place, and the majority of the clientel appeared to be 35 and above males. Utter shyte.

Gaspanic was Gaspanic. Better than Motown. Met a few Japanese dudes (ended up spilling beer on one, lol), had almost given up on the night after getting an emotional phone call from my ex-gf (yeah, why the fukk was I answering my phone to my ex in the club anyway, right) and then I ended up chatting up this girl sitting solo at the bar. Very cute girl, had a great convo, shared a some champagne courtesy of the house (she used to work there and knew the bartenders). I was a bit puzzled as to why she was even in the club that night as she had on this big sweater and work pants and she had a big shopping bag with her and she said she hadn't danced all night. Anyway,we left together and grabbed a bite outside..no, no love hotel, but a deep kiss at the station and a date this Saturday so let's see how it plays out.

Anyway, good meeting you Harry! Sorry we got split up after I spilt those beers on the Japanese dude..went back to their table and they told me you had left. Anyway, decent night in Roppongi. No debauchery though.

Pugman

11-24-06, 02:57

NiceGuyye

11-26-06, 20:14

Here is one for those of you who can speak Japanese fluently. Does anyone have any experience with the chain called "terekura rin rin hausu"

http://www.rrh.jp/index1.html

It looks like there are pictures of freelance girls (students and OLs) who you can call and arrange an enjo kosai type of thing. But it looks like a "Japanese ONLY" type of place. Any info would be appreciated.

2X4Exactly as you said is tel club. The problem is it does require speak fluent Japanese as most of girls on the phone are Japanese.

Drunk Nanpa

12-04-06, 05:52

I notice this board has been lying dormant for a while. It would be nice to hear few new nampa reports for a fellow that is heading to Tokyo in a week. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. More good spots, etc.I've been meaning to post some of my new stuff, too. Unfortunately that amounts to a lot of extra nanpa and no measurable increase in pussy.

Regardless, I'm always down for swapping stories with any Tokyo prowlers. I don't know the first thing about clubs, but street nanpa is sweet.

Pugman

12-04-06, 18:19

Just a little update on my time here in Japan. Managed to make a trip into Roppongi on Saturday. Stopped into Heartland for a few drinks. Real classy environment, enjoyed a cocktail and chatted with a pair of OLs. Didn't't really go anywhere so I moved on to 911. Ended up dancing with a nice 7, very cute body and lots of flirting. We basically spent the night dancing, drinking, and chatting. Thing was, she was there with some of her gfs who at the end of the night did a nice tidy little job of cockblocking me and dragging her away. Not sure if I could have gotten her to a hotel. I might head out sometime this week before I leave, but looks like the free route might not be the best bet for a visitor who's only here for a few days.

Onnazuki

12-04-06, 23:23

Lyraus

12-06-06, 03:22

It's been awhile since I've done this in Japan. I'll be there for a short while this month (10 days - Nagoya, Tokyo areas) and would like to try my shot again. Every now and then see a post that ask for general info on best locations, what do do, etc., but of course there's never a magical answer that leads to success for every man.

So, I figure I'm just gonna have some fun and try my luck at most any bar, club, or hell even bookstore, that I go. I speak Japanese, so hopefully this helps. What I'd like to ask from all the brothers is:

1. What's your favorite/most successful pick-up line?

2. What's your favorite/most successful approach?

By the way, responses from the non-Japanese Asian bros is a plus.

OnnazukiI've only been at it a few months so I'm by no means an expert, but I find that in general the opening line is not important at all. Obviously if your on the street it will be different than a club, but since I've never done street nampa I can't help you there. In a club I'd just ask their name or simply ask "How are you doing?". Doesn't get much simpler than that. Then judging by their body language/response take it from there.

As far as Nampa outside the clubs, I've only done it once and that was with a girl working in a cell phone shop. She spoke some English, so a compliment on her English and some small talk about where she learned was an easy segway to her giving me her number so we could meet up sometime for "English lessons". Ultimately that only lead to a few dates and nothing, but the pick up itself was easy.

One question I have for the clubgoers is how to cut a convo short without coming off the wrong way. For instance a few weeks back I started talking to this girl in a club within the first 20 minutes I was there. Went dancing with her, good physical contact, etc, got her number, and decided I'd like to chat to some others. I told her I'm gonna go back and meet up with my friends, and she seemed kinda pissed. So how exactly do you guys go out and get 5 numbers in the club? Short of leaving the club and going to the next one.

Pugman

12-12-06, 15:59

Well, I've returned from Tokyo and ultimately didn't manage to score anything via the nampa route, however I ALMOST pulled of a 3p at Wallstreet in my last night. Two very keen girls I was chatting with, we got onto bisexuality, etc. Instead of just going for it though and suggesting it in a bold manner, I choked! Couldn't extricate the 8, so I eventually went back to my hotel unsuccesful. Just out of interest, has anyone EVER pulled a 3p from a club. I'd imagine as a guy going solo and constantly approaching pairs of girls (it seems almost all J-girls go to clubs in pairs of 2 or 3), this could work once in a blue moon. I'd be interested in here about any experiences.

RCA Knight

12-12-06, 19:18

Cuty Suzuki

12-12-06, 21:37

My first post after being a read only member.

If you are middle aged and married, Furipa (Furin(adultury)Partner) is a good site. I visit Japan a couple of times per year and have gotten a few dates from this site. I'm working on a woman now for my next trip. It's made for Japanese, it's not a gaijin dating site, so you need to write in Japanese.

http://www.love.squares.net/furin/

I should have some reports from some Tokyo Nozoki/Esthe/Salon/Video Box next month.

Jesterl

12-12-06, 23:02

What's the age group and lanaguage ability of the guys on here. It sounds like late twenties and good ability to me.

Any advice for a 30yo with poor language skills?

What do you guys think is better for Nampaing, Kanto or Kansai? Never been to Tokyo.

BigDudegso

12-13-06, 00:02

Late 20s? Where do you get that from? Id wager most guys on here are 35-45.

Lion

12-13-06, 03:46

Exactly as you said is tel club. The problem is it does require speak fluent Japanese as most of girls on the phone are Japanese.

Has anyone ever tried one of these? Any success? How exactly do they work?

I imagine they give you a small desk and chair and a list of ladies who have submitted profiles with picts and you just chose one and start calling. All the while you are paying 2,000/hr or more to sit and use the house phone. Any of this correct?

AussieGaigin

12-13-06, 09:43

A few years ago I was holidaying in Cairns (Australia) and picked up two J girls on a tour bus. They invited me out for dinner, we went to a good restaurant, they picked up the tab for me, but were "too tired" to carry on afterwards. But they did offer to meet me again the next night; but only one turned up ("my friend not feel well"). So a couple of drinks and I got to screw her at my hotel. They went back to Japan next day, so I never got to find out whether the other one was really sick, or they tossed a coin to see who would get me for the night.

A couple of days later I went into a cafe for lunch, and this J bird at a table smiles and waves at me. I go over and she explains she was the waitress in the restaurant that night and wants to know what I was doing with the 2 girls. I explained that I had picked them up and they took me to dinner; she thought that was cool and wanted to do the same thing. So I met her after work that night, went for a few drinks and ended up screwing her for the rest of my holiday time there.

I spent over 20 years working in the Japanese tourist industry in Australia, and have had many great nampa moments like that without having to go to Japan (although I did have several trips there to try my skills).

Pugman

12-13-06, 15:56

The best nampa strategy is have a partner, almost girls in clubs are in pairs, so try to lead them out the first step to other pubs or eventually to end up in one's house, then when 4 of you are together in a house or condo for after party, the next key is to pick your target and have your partner concentrate on the other one, do not mix targetness all night, it won't work, then the most important step-to separate them, one taking his girl out for a drive or going other room, try to creat 2 pairs, then usually Japanese girls are so easy from this step on.

My 3 years nampa history in Tokyo before has proved my strategy very effective.I agree this sounds like the best bet, but as aussiegaijins post suggests there is always that outside chance that you could get lucky and bring home two of them. I guess all the stars in the sky would have to be aligning pretty perfectly in order to pull off such a feat. Having read some of the older reports though, it sounds like it HAS been done in the past. Well, a monger can always dream!

Lion

12-14-06, 03:16

If you are middle aged and married, Furipa (Furin(adultury)Partner) is a good site. I visit Japan a couple of times per year and have gotten a few dates from this site. I'm working on a woman now for my next trip. It's made for Japanese, it's not a gaijin dating site, so you need to write in Japanese.

http://www.love.squares.net/furin/
.

Anybody know of a free email service that FURIN accepts? It has rejected my @mail/@hotmail/@fastmail.

Thanks.

Nampa Guy

12-14-06, 07:33

I was at regular business social. Cute prof. type, maybe 34, spotted in corner of room looking bored. Nampa guy decieds to talk to her and gets name card and with *important* hand written keitai email.

Next day Nampa guy sends email, taking chance, "would you like to go Happening Club". Appologize for being so forward. maybe you wold like to go, I can take you,,,,, we can just watch. it's fun. All girls know happining bar and are curious.

Now I know ther are guys who's technigue is to play AV movie for a horny date back at mansion.

Happening club is great place to watch all kinds of sexy activities. Kind of like being in middle of big porn movie.

Together we watch, SM scene, girl get giant dilo on couch, big screen AV movie, all drinks inc with price to get in.

We sit on floor and start to kiss, guy next to me getting BJ from his girl.

Next thing I know Nampa guy getting BJ. So nice then back for all nighter.

Sorry no photos

Topos

12-14-06, 17:43

Sudsy

12-15-06, 01:01

Hi there

I would like some more info about these happening bars like can I go there alone and how do I recognise them from the outside and where are they?

Thanks Topos
Maybe a new experenceThere are a number of them. Here's a few that are gaijin friendly:

Kagi - Roppongi - http://roppongi.kagi-net.com/

Le Grand Bleu - Shinjuku - http://www.lgb.co.jp/ (their Roppongi shop was shut down by the police)

Mysteria Purety - Shinjuku - http://www.mysteria-purety.com/

Note that you will have a better time at these places if you can speak Japanese. If you CAN'T speak Japanese, tread very carefully. Many of these places have turned foreigners away in the past because of simple misunderstandings. Move slow, and take any sign of reluctance, however small, as a very loud and clear "NO".

Be very aware that the police are starting to crack down on them - recently they arrested a dozen people, including three gaijin guys at one in Roppongi - and the guys' names were published in newspapers and on the TV news. If any of you know Chocoball Mukai, the porn star, he was arrested at another place for "performing". If you hear a commotion at the door, get your pants on, and if your cop radar goes off (non-participatory customers who seem more interested in who's doing what than enjoying the view) cutting your evening short may not be a bad idea.

Actionjun

12-15-06, 01:10

I'm visiting Tokyo next week staying at the Hyatt in Shinjuku. Arriving Monday afternoon and departing Thursday. Would love to buy a few beers for a more experienced nampa-artist on the board and learn the deal. I assume since I'm an American w/ no Japanese skill and an ethnically Chinese background my chance for straight forward nampa is slim, but we could always have a good time judging the relative fun-value of different countries in Asia. Send me a private message if interested.

Nampa Guy

12-15-06, 08:40

Happening is actualy a well used word. There are Happening beach movies, etc I got all my info off this forum by searching here.

Sudsy is rigbt. It is Grand Blu that I went to.

You do not want to go by yourself you are even better off with a skank then by your self and you better have some money and language skill. There is membership fee to get in first time. You have to know the rules. If they say stuff like no staring etc. Please go by rules. You think it is hard to get along in regular bar, try this scene. But you only pay that one time then smaller fee to get in each time.

If you really want to make a friend bring hot young chick, dress her in nurse clothes and do her in front of everyone with big parangus and you will maybe get lifetime membership

Seriously. I have had guy come over to me with his GF, say "watch only" and proceed to tie her up and spank.

So you want to have something yourself or mellow out befor arrival. Also sometimes it is not such a sexy wonderland as many chubby girls come her as they know they will get attention.

Kindly try and report.

Inakajin

12-15-06, 13:50

The Furipa (furin partner) site does not accept any free mail services, and that's why you can be assured you'll never get spam through them. All the women there are for real. I've been using that site for 2+ years, have met about a half-dozen women through it and had e-mail exchanges with a dozen others. In fact, I just got off the phone a few minutes ago with a lovely woman I met through that site and have been dating for a couple of months (it's just unfortunate we live a couple hours apart and both have busy jobs). Of those I've met, only one was less than a 5, most I'd rate as 7-8. The one I mentioned above is more like a 9 in my eyes--although she's in fer 40s, she could pass for 10 years younger (the women ALWAYS lie about their age at first!) and must have been a real knockout when she was 20.

I use my university e-mail for that site because your mail address is totally masked--no one can get it, and the site clearly doesn't sell the addresses. When a woman responds to you after you contact her, the message is routed through the site, and in all but one case in my experience, the womans mail address is in that response. After I get a response from one, I then copy the message into my yahoo.co.jp mail and use that until I feel comfortable giving her any other address.

The drawback for most foreigners with this site is that you MUST be able to both read and write Japanese, at least initially. Several of those I've corresponded with and met, however, could speak, write and understand some English; a couple (including my current date, who's an elementary school teacher) are intermediate level, actually

Anybody know of a free email service that FURIN accepts? It has rejected my @mail/@hotmail/@fastmail.

Thanks.

Jesterl

12-18-06, 03:07

Lion

12-18-06, 05:08

The Furipa (furin partner) site does not accept any free mail services, and that's why you can be assured you'll never get spam through them. All the women there are for real. I've been using that site for 2+ years, have met about a half-dozen women through it and had e-mail exchanges with a dozen others.
I use my university e-mail for that site because your mail address is totally masked--no one can get it, and the site clearly doesn't sell the addresses. When a woman responds to you after you contact her, the message is routed through the site, and in all but one case in my experience, the womans mail address is in that response. After I get a response from one, I then copy the message into my yahoo.co.jp mail and use that until I feel comfortable giving her any other address.

Great info as useful.

I am curious whether you are meeting married, divorced or unmarried women, and what their intentions are. Single women are usually looking for a full-time relationship which I cannot provide, so my guess is furin is a better shopping ground, although there are quite a few divorcees listed as well (if my kanji reading skills are correct).

Are they contacting you or vice-versa? You using a Japanese or Western name?

Thanks again.

Inakajin

12-18-06, 09:37

Hi Lion,
Whether they're single or married is always listed in the data at the top of each ad: –¢¥for single, Šù¥for married. Some of those listed as single say they are "batsu ichi" (ƒoƒcƒVƒ`), or divorced. I only respond to the married ones, as I'm most likely looking for the same thing(s) they are. I've tried running my own ads several times clearly stating that I'm Caucasion, but of all those, I got only one response--and she was the under 5 I mentioned. When I'm looking for someone, I just peruse the site and respond to any who live fairly near, can meet weekdays, have phsyical characteristics I prefer, and sound like we might be looking for a similar kind of relationship, then wait for a response from them. I've never kept an accurate count, but my estimate would be that I get a response from maybe every 5 or so that I contact, but that also runs in spells when I'll get responses from 2-3 at nearly the same time but then may not get any response for several weeks/months no matter how many I send out. I always tell them I'm Caucasion and use a Western-type handle.

I have to say, though, that while many of them are clearly not looking for permanent relationships, very few state even implicitly that they're mostly looking for sex. There are a few like that, though, but there are also a few that are obviously extremely unhappy with their uncommunicative, unappreciative and never-home hubbies and are problably looking for a new spouse before they divorce him.

Great info as useful.

I am curious whether you are meeting married, divorced or unmarried women, and what their intentions are. Single women are usually looking for a full-time relationship which I cannot provide, so my guess is furin is a better shopping ground, although there are quite a few divorcees listed as well (if my kanji reading skills are correct).

Are they contacting you or vice-versa? You using a Japanese or Western name?

Thanks again.

NiceGuyye

12-18-06, 16:02

No my friend told me is not working is this way, is you sitting in your own room waiting for the girl calling you from outside, you got pay the room rent fee hourly and tel costs. They are range of system. On the phone you chat with the girl if you are match, then meet in outside go to love hotel. 90% of the ladies are? TYPE required cash from you start from 15000 yen.

Has anyone ever tried one of these? Any success? How exactly do they work?

I imagine they give you a small desk and chair and a list of ladies who have submitted profiles with picts and you just chose one and start calling. All the while you are paying 2,000/hr or more to sit and use the house phone. Any of this correct?

Homban

12-19-06, 04:09

All the women there are for real.This looks like a great site, according to Inakajin's experience, and I look forward to some happy hunting there.

However, there is a warning on the site that, being a free website without a registration process, it is subject to abuse by scam artists fishing for gullible men who will part with cash. The site administrator recommends male users ask themselves whether an attractive 20-something-year-old housewife would really be looking for a lover this way. I myself browsed the women's listings and found a suspiciously high number of such "promising" young women with D-cup breasts and a slender waist.

Homban

12-19-06, 04:11

Asian Travels

12-19-06, 07:21

. The site administrator recommends male users ask themselves whether an attractive 20-something-year-old housewife would really be looking for a lover this way. I myself browsed the women's listings and found a suspiciously high number of such "promising" young women with D-cup breasts and a slender waist.

Yeah, I think it is probably worthless trying to hunt anyone under the age of 30 on furipa, as those more than likely are scammers.

Inakajin certainly has his ducks lined up nicely, but it obviously takes a bit of work and trial and error to manage furipa. Especially since you only get one shot per day.

Wild Bill #2

12-19-06, 16:51

Hey everyone,

I've been reading this forum with interest off and on for years, since I'm completely fluent in Japanese (I'm half). I've learned a lot, but I've never really done the nampa thing, since I don't actually come out to Japan that often and when I do, it's with family. But now I'm on a business trip through 12/27, and seeing if anyone wants to show me the ropes while I provide any sort of language support I can provide (I can read everything too). It sucks being on business trips by yourself, so even finding some girls to have dinner with is enough; a hookup is a bonus.

I usually end up doing the P2P thing (I have no trouble getting accepted) since I rarely have much time to work things, but since I'm hear another week, I definitely want to see how the nampa thing is done.

PM me if interested. I'm staying near Roppongi if that matters.

Cuty Suzuki

12-19-06, 21:07

I've tried running my own ads several times clearly stating that I'm Caucasion, but of all those, I got only one response--and she was the under 5 I mentioned. When I'm looking for someone, I just peruse the site and respond to any who live fairly near, can meet weekdays, have phsyical characteristics I prefer, and sound like we might be looking for a similar kind of relationship, then wait for a response from them. I've never kept an accurate count, but my estimate would be that I get a response from maybe every 5 or so that I contact, but that also runs in spells when I'll get responses from 2-3 at nearly the same time but then may not get any response for several weeks/months no matter how many I send out. I always tell them I'm Caucasion and use a Western-type handle.Running my own ad stating that I am travelling to Japan soon, I usually will get a response. When answering, I might get 10 - 20% responses. I guess the difference is that I am not in Japan and can't meet immediately. I've had zero responses when posting an ad in the Gaikoku section looking for women in US.

Inakajin

12-20-06, 13:52

Well, I guess I should have said all the women I've been in contact with. I would imagine that some of those young, apparently foxy ones could be scammers, but since I'm middle-aged myself, I've never contacted one under early 30s. I have seen a few ads that looked clearly like come-ons, but I ignore those. If your Japanese is good enough to read the site warnings and recognize Japanese-language spam, you could clearly detect those that don't sound sincere, I think. They tend to sound like spammers and too good to be true!

This looks like a great site, according to Inakajin's experience, and I look forward to some happy hunting there.

However, there is a warning on the site that, being a free website without a registration process, it is subject to abuse by scam artists fishing for gullible men who will part with cash. The site administrator recommends male users ask themselves whether an attractive 20-something-year-old housewife would really be looking for a lover this way. I myself browsed the women's listings and found a suspiciously high number of such "promising" young women with D-cup breasts and a slender waist.

Inakajin

12-22-06, 05:25

Inakajin,

What's the domain name of the sender's address when she first writes to you? Is it something like ...@love.squares.co.jp? (Just a guess based on the URL.) I use anti-spam software which filters out e-mails from unknown senders, so I want to set it to accept replies from Furipa.

TIA.

Here's the address from one of only two mails I received from women on the Furipa site whose addresses were masked:

k.f-yos-D5475E5178050A534809015F584C1C5700185C12Q0000@m08.furipa.jp

The other dozen and a half or so were from the woman's own address which could be anything for a keitai address to Yahoo, Hotmail, or anything else. If you want to get them, you'll have to stop your spam filter for unknown mails.

Good luck

Lion

12-22-06, 06:45

. If you want to get them, you'll have to stop your spam filter for unknown mails.

Good luck

That makes it harder, as the amount of dei-ai spam is so great it means we have to actually look at the mails to determine if they are legit or not.

Pugman

12-23-06, 03:16

Hello,

Pugman here again. Well once again I went hunting (this time on my home grounds) and last night I hit it off with a couple Japanese tourists in a bar here in Sydney. Again, I was sans a wingman and AGAIN I ended up going home with nada. While the girl I was after seemed very responsive, of course she didn't leave without her friend. So what is some advice for solo nampa? Try and get them both home? Or find a wingman at the bar?

Xiangjiao

12-28-06, 09:08

Hey Sojourn and other experienced nanpas,
I'm considering a stint in Tokyo and have some time to bone up on some nanpa skills. You don't recommend Mystery, which I totally understand as the routines require a lot of talking. My Japanese is only elementary. But how about other styles? What do you think of Juggler Method or Woodhaven's natural game (the Approach) or TokyoPUA's stuff? Or is there nanpa learning material in English that I can watch/listen/read up on?
Happy holidays to all the brothers!

I will guarantee that for 30k you can call a CB girl to teach you anything you want! Nanpa is not about money - the losers that pay, just do that, lose. Nanpa is only about presenting an open possiblity to another person that happens to be sex. Make it acceptable and practicle - why would they refuse?

Mystery's game wouldn't fly in Japan. Forget about it. First, you probably simply dont have the language skills to pull it off. Secondly none of the gambits make any sense - especially in Japanese. The rest of it just makes you come off looking like a dumb gaijin.

Nanpa is zen. It's about being formless and full of potential. That's what the Japanese women are most intrigued and attracted by. It's an Island for chrissake. Think about it.

S.

Duas Cervejas

01-18-07, 23:49

First off, I'd like to say great info on this board. I've read through most of the posts and it's entertaining, as well as, informative.

I'm flying out to Tokyo next month for a 10 day holiday. I have a few questions that any help with would be appreciated:

1. What recommendations for area of town or specific hotels would you have for someone who wants to spend his evenings clubbing/bar-hopping and days sightseeing?? I know I'll spend a few nights out in Roppongi, however wouldn't mind checking out the Shibuya or Shinjuku scene as well. I wouldn't mind keeping it in the $100/night range but would go up to $200/night if it significantly increased my chances of closing a deal come end of night.

2. With the trip being pretty short is is it worth getting a rental keitai for nampa-ing purposes?

3. Could anyone provide a short updated list of what days different bars/clubs are best to go on? i.e. Friday - Heartland, 911, Thursday - Motown, Vanilla, etc. (this would probably be most useful for the weekdays I suppose since I would think any place on the weekend should be good)

4. Any good dining recommendations similar to Ass Cafe to go for a quick bite with potential new friends?

I'm excited for this trip! Nothing like a good mix of culture, good food, and friendly, attractive women :)

Pugman

01-19-07, 15:20

1) Shinjuku has many business hotels that could probably quote you a price of $100 or less, however they will be quite small. If you want a decent room to possibly bring a girl back to, expect to pay at least $200. Maybe look into the Prince Hotel chain, they have various locations in Tokyo and aren't outrageously expensive.

2) I'd say get the phone for a 10 day trip. Not every girl you hit it off with is going to go straight back to your hotel with you. Plus, if you arrange to meet up with some girls from an internet site, then it would be better to have a cell phone to arrange a meet up once in Tokyo.

3) As for clubs, Friday and Saturday are obviously the best nights. Any club in Roppongi or Shibuya are going to be busiest those nights. Roppongi is decent on Thursdays nights as well, especially Gas Panic. Sunday is gonna be quiet everywhere but from my experiences Shibuya is a little busier that night, especially Club Atom, however that is a VERY Japanese club and not a nampa place.

BTW, how old are you and what is your style. If you are mid-30s and above Motown, Heartland, 911, and even Muse would be ideal for you. Gas Panic is a much younger crowd, as is Vanilla.

Forget Shibuya if you are mid-30s or above as all the clubs there are for the much younger set. Most of the girls there are 20 to 25 tops and are into young, fashionably dressed guys. Xanadu skews a bit older, but is still quite young.