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If you blokes want to go at it take it to PM, please.
Thanks for the post up Re: Nampa vs P4P. I saw ES's response and I guess I hurt his little feelings.
So I saw this report, wondering how to do the whole nampa thing, and basically its just walking up to hot women, and just asking them out for a drink right then?
That seems pretty easy! Or is there more to this then I am seeing right now?
Do you speak the language? Do you know the culture well enough to communicate and woo?
Evan Stoner
11-08-09, 13:04
If you blokes want to go at it take it to PM, please.Agreed. Hopefully AG and TWK will oblige.
ES
Evan Stoner
11-09-09, 00:20
...basically its just walking up to hot women, and just asking them out for a drink right then?Yeah, that's about it. No special need for language ability. If you speak Japanese well enough to communicate it will help in certain situations, but counter-intuitively it will be a liability in others. Just chat up a likely-looking bird on the street, in the department store, in Starbucks, obviously in the club/bar, anywhere the spirit moves you. You can't go wrong. And feel free to disregard those on the forums who like to talk about picking up women in Japan as if it's something challenging that they've honed to a fine art. It's not, and they haven't. It's freakin' fish in a barrel, mate.
Start today and don't look back, you'll never regret it.
ES
Tokyo Nampa King
11-09-09, 01:45
Yeah, that's about it. No special need for language ability. If you speak Japanese well enough to communicate it will help in certain situations, but counter-intuitively it will be a liability in others. Just chat up a likely-looking bird on the street, in the department store, in Starbucks, obviously in the club/bar, anywhere the spirit moves you. You can't go wrong. And feel free to disregard those on the forums who like to talk about picking up women in Japan as if it's something challenging that they've honed to a fine art. It's not, and they haven't. It's freakin' fish in a barrel, mate.
Start today and don't look back, you'll never regret it.
ESHey ES,
No doubt and good advice here. But you wouldnt believe how many socially inept people I have met who NEED it explained as a fine art in order to get them a bit of courage to make the jump to approaching strangers.
You wanna meet up for a drink and discuss the finer points of nampa, hell I can always go for a good wing man.
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Basketcase42
11-09-09, 14:36
Hey, Basket Case!
How did your 4 days in Tokyo go? Were the Japan Cupid girls looking for a serious BF?
Did you share some love & affection with the girl from the Metropolis ad?
Best regards,
SakeLOL. I SUCK!
The Metropolis ad gal never showed. However another gal responded and I will meet her next time I come to Japan. Her response was to meet for dinner and playtime after depended on chemistry. Hey. Sounds fair enough to me!
The first gal I met was from Gaijinpot personals (which are shared by a number of sites). She wanted strictly friends because, as she put it, "She only dates old Japanese men". Hmm. And she didn't have a job either. Hhmmmm. At least she paid for everything.
The third gal I met on JC. She was looking for BF material. BUT. She was a great gal and she promised pillow time if I come back for another visit. So maybe I'm headin back there for another visit. I was only in her town for 24 hours and she knew it. There was lots of holding hands and kissing and she ate sweets from my hand. Everything nampa I learned from this board seemed to be working. But she was very much in the "dude. 24 hours? You AIN'T gettin it THIS trip". LOL.
So. After all this, to console myself. I hit a hostess club (I don't know the name) in Tokyo and took 2 hostesses home with me for some play time for several hours. Ya, it was expensive. But a memory I won't soon forget.
I think I will probably always suck at nampa. LOL. I believe I learned a lesson however. If you really want nampa, it is better to only talk to a gal for only a short time before coming to Japan. If you talk to the gals for months before coming you put yourself way into BF zone.
I suck.
Evan Stoner
11-10-09, 00:17
LOL. I SUCK!
I suck.Hard on yourself much? Sounds like you did OK for being in town 24 hours.
ES
Evan Stoner
11-10-09, 00:19
You wanna meet up for a drink and discuss the finer points of nampa, hell I can always go for a good wing man.Fair enough. It'll have to wait for early next year though as I'll be out of town for business in holidays pretty soon.
Good year-end hunting.
ES
Simple strategy for ya.
1st. Hook up with the West Tokyo girl (you live in Tokyo right). Send her an email and tell her you are planning on going for some drinks, she should join (my best line to get a girl alone is say I am meeting a bunch of friends, then when she gets there tell her the friends cancelled but hey LETS HAVE FUN). Interesting. This sounds like a good strategy and if she doesn't like it she'd probably bail by making up some excuse about work, etc.
Later I asked her what that was about and she told me that when she did her semi-annual OBGYN visit the last time, the doc fished out a condom. The chic assumed it had been lodged there for about 2 months! Digusted, I never saw her again.
Seems to me you'd have limp out to lose a condom, but that would mean you've cum or got hit by limpbizkit midfuck and not know it?Hahaha, wtf. Maybe they were really drunk?
I Fail At Nanpa
11-10-09, 09:49
I think I will probably always suck at nampa. LOL. I believe I learned a lesson however. If you really want nampa, it is better to only talk to a gal for only a short time before coming to Japan. If you talk to the gals for months before coming you put yourself way into BF zone.You got a point there... in fact going back on my would-be-dates lately, I can't believe just how many I've blown out/friend-zoned by simply waiting too long before "going for it". This seems especially true with Japanese girls - if you wait too long they assume you're not interested, and it's pretty much impossible (for me?) to reverse after you're "friends".
Is it just me - or has anyone else come to the conclusion that if you don't at least kiss them on the first date your chances decrease dramatically?
What about girls you actually are in the friend-zone with? does anyone have actual experiences of breaking it? I have a few - but they generally involve getting very very drunk and making out spontaneously in a club. Not that there's anything wrong with that - but wonder if there's a more consistent way... (I know-RTFT... going to!)
I Fail At Nanpa
11-10-09, 10:06
Seems to me you'd have limp out to lose a condom, but that would mean you've cum or got hit by limpbizkit midfuck and not know it? I'm not sure what happened with this one (and how she didn't notice it for 2 months. But actually one time I was going at it pretty hard with someone I was seeing. Later on I noticed the condom tore apart, but figured since she's on the pill, and what's done is done. No big deal, right?
Well, apparently it didn't just tear. A few days later she found a piece of condom stuck inside her. I'm guessing this is probably what happened with your girl too. Except she didn't find it for 2 months. (again- wtf?)
The Black Rose
11-15-09, 19:26
Yeah, that's about it. No special need for language ability. If you speak Japanese well enough to communicate it will help in certain situations, but counter-intuitively it will be a liability in others. Just chat up a likely-looking bird on the street, in the department store, in Starbucks, obviously in the club/bar, anywhere the spirit moves you. You can't go wrong. And feel free to disregard those on the forums who like to talk about picking up women in Japan as if it's something challenging that they've honed to a fine art. It's not, and they haven't. It's freakin' fish in a barrel, mate.
Start today and don't look back, you'll never regret it.
ESI've been having some mixed success lately, I met a couple girl in starbucks last week who seemed to be into me, both gave me good eye contact and smiled at me befor eI approached them, unfortunately one girl had a bf and told me about it in a keitai email then ignored me after that. Then the other one just straight up changed her keitai email address when I mailed her a couple days later. After we set up a time to meet in the coffee shop and she put it down in her scheduler.
But. I met a girl through CL and boned her that night and I met someone at an international party that really likes me and we are meeting Friday. Now I would be happy but damn I don't really understand what I did wrong with the other two, they liked me, had good conversation and just bam dorpped like a sack of potateos.
I'm pretty normal, dress fairly nicely, can hold a normal conversation. It just doesn't seem as easy as ES puts it though. I swear I have like 50 different women I've had conversations with in my cell phone and maybe like 1-2 lays out of that. Are those just typical results? or Am I more socially inept than I think? (I never thoguht I was socially Inept. Always figure I was a pretty cool person)
It doesn't seem as easy as fish in a barrel to me.
I've been having some mixed success lately...Always figure I was a pretty cool person
It doesn't seem as easy as fish in a barrel to me.
You were self-confident, but now self-doubting, but don't worry-you are normal.
A select few score women every time they go out (in any country). The rest of us do OK, and get a hit every now and then.
It is very easy to strike up a conversation with a Japanese woman, as they are usually interested in talking to someone who is new and different. But often that is all they want, a little chat. They may lead you into thinking there is more in the future, but part of Japanese culture is to not disappoint the other party. Ignoring you later is considered acceptable, but blowing you off to your face is not. Just suck and up and get back out there. And when you do find a keeper-consider settling down. No guarantee you'll find another.
Two by Four
11-16-09, 14:36
Your hit rate is completely normal for someone who is figuring out his game. I can't tell you how many times I've F$cked up what seemed like a hot lead. Just suck it up, and get out there and get your game on.
No J girl wants to be alone on Christmas eve in Japan. Start planning now!
2X4
I've been having some mixed success lately, I met a couple girl in starbucks last week who seemed to be into me, both gave me good eye contact and smiled at me befor eI approached them, unfortunately one girl had a bf and told me about it in a keitai email then ignored me after that. Then the other one just straight up changed her keitai email address when I mailed her a couple days later. After we set up a time to meet in the coffee shop and she put it down in her scheduler.
But. I met a girl through CL and boned her that night and I met someone at an international party that really likes me and we are meeting Friday. Now I would be happy but damn I don't really understand what I did wrong with the other two, they liked me, had good conversation and just bam dorpped like a sack of potateos.
I'm pretty normal, dress fairly nicely, can hold a normal conversation. It just doesn't seem as easy as ES puts it though. I swear I have like 50 different women I've had conversations with in my cell phone and maybe like 1-2 lays out of that. Are those just typical results? or Am I more socially inept than I think? (I never thoguht I was socially Inept. Always figure I was a pretty cool person)
It doesn't seem as easy as fish in a barrel to me.
And when you do find a keeper-consider settling down. No guarantee you'll find another.
Lion: Considering you have no idea how old he is, or what his circumstances are, that's pretty extreme advice.
BR: The cultural norms are different here and there are pluses and minuses to that.
One of the minuses is that if you go around talking to a lot of girls, you can get a lot of numbers and email addresses from girls who aren't really interested in you but just want to be nice (but not nice enough to fit you into their tight schedule). Eventually, you will get a better sense for who is really interested and who just wants to flirt. (Also, note that sometimes a girl who you exchanged info with will email you after months of silence.)
Some of the pluses are that you can sometimes bang girls within a matter of hours of meeting them, in karaoke, manga-kissa, etc, and once you've been at nampa for a while, you can usually have a few girls who just come over and fuck you one a week or once ever few weeks.
Lion: Considering you have no idea how old he is, or what his circumstances are, that's pretty extreme advice.
It is advice for him to consider, not a requirement, and not extreme.
My point is that he has hit on 50 women but scored 1-2. His odds might get better, or may stay the same. His choice of course. But it would be wrong to think that he will always find a better lay next month because there are so many J-girls willing to chat with him for an hour or so. Could be the girl in already his bed is the best he'll ever get.
Could be the girl in already his bed is the best he'll ever get.
That strikes me, again, as a fairly weird idea. I don't know how old BR is but I do know from what he's written that he's new to the scene in Japan.
My experience has been that some of the girls I dated years ago (before I came to Japan or last year in Japan, whatever) were really hot and as you say "keepers" and sometimes I still think about them and wonder why I didn't stay with them. But the fact that I didn't "settle down" with them greatly increased my chances of getting other girls and some of the girls I've picked up since then have also been really hot. I don't think I could honestly say any one girl was the "best I've ever had" because people are so different.
My point is that the quality and the number of the hot girls that you get in a city like Tokyo or Osaka depends to a great extent on your own actions. I knew a guy in Osaka who was not any better at Japanese or better looking than me (and he had a far worse job) but he was always dating the type of super hot J-girls who are generally out of bounds for gaijin. Once I asked him how he did it. He told me that he spent 15 (?!) hours a week standing at one of the busiest pedestrian intersections in south Osaka and talking to every hot girl who walked by. Now that takes incredible commitment and an ego built like a brick shit-house, but it got results.
Fynx Gloire
11-21-09, 16:48
Hey all,
Can anyone direct me where I can get business cards made here in Japan (for the purpose of Nanpa'ing)
One thing I learnt, is NEVER give out your real job's business card to a chic you are nanp'ing / dating / in a relationship with etc.
Until I get married, no girl is going to find out.
I can explain why and what happened to me in a subsequent post, if anyone is interested.
Thanks
Fynx
Can anyone direct me where I can get business cards made here in Japan (for the purpose of Nanpa'ing)
One thing I learnt, is NEVER give out your real job's business card to a chic you are nanp'ing / dating / in a relationship with etc.
Until I get married, no girl is going to find out.
I can explain why and what happened to me in a subsequent post, if anyone is interested.
Please do tell...
As for business cards, you can go to almost any copy store (such as Kinko's, or just a local print shop). Just look for 名刺 on the signage. It helps if you bring and electronic file of what you want.
I can explain why and what happened to me in a subsequent post, if anyone is interested.
Of course you should explain. There is a reason that Air Crash Investigation is such a popular TV series.
Your hit rate is completely normal for someone who is figuring out his game. I can't tell you how many times I've F$cked up what seemed like a hot lead. Just suck it up, and get out there and get your game on.
No J girl wants to be alone on Christmas eve in Japan. Start planning now!
2X4I agree; good advice! Especially if one is unencumbered by a wife or gf, there's no magic nampa bullet but *it really is* as wide open a field as you make it.
Gaijin Otoko
11-25-09, 14:27
I'm pretty normal, dress fairly nicely, can hold a normal conversation. It just doesn't seem as easy as ES puts it though. I swear I have like 50 different women I've had conversations with in my cell phone and maybe like 1-2 lays out of that. Are those just typical results? or Am I more socially inept than I think? (I never thoguht I was socially Inept. Always figure I was a pretty cool person)
It doesn't seem as easy as fish in a barrel to me.
The first thing to remember is that ES is living proof of the fortune cookie quote, "all you need in life is ignorance and arrogance, and then success is sure."
I'm not sure what your expectations are, but a 2-4% success rate from a random selection of J-girls is actually not that bad. I know many who have had worse rates than that, including myself at times. I think Japanese women are probably harder to get in the sack than a lot of nationalities. Because of the culture, and the social consequences of having a relationship with a foreigner, they tend to be quite skittish. And Japanese society puts them in a position where they have to be extra careful with guys.
Hi all,
This is my first post so be gentle. I may be in the wrong forum so please let me know.
I will be traveling to Japan for a 3 month vacation starting in March 2010. I will arrive in Tokyo and will take make my way up to Asahikawa in Hokkaido. I will most likely be traveling in a hired mini-van and mostly staying in minshuku.
My question is this; is there any escort services that provide pregnant women for companionship? Or perhaps one that is lactating? And if there are, would the lady be able to travel around the country with me for most of my stay. Also any idea about price would be welcomed also.
Or would I just be better off running an ad in some of the adult papers in Japan.
My Japanese is passable.
I have gotten flamed out of most other Asian adult chat sites for this fetish but from what I see of Japanese AVs it seems to be a not uncommon one in Japan.
Even the slimiest lead would be much appreciated.
Thanks
That question (meaning, "are you here [in Japan] by yourself, married or otherwise unencumbered by a girlfriend/significant other?") -- whether asked of me by a nampa target and/or in a bar by the master, mama or other patrons that could be seen as potential nampa targets at some point -- can derail the best of my intentions, if I answer the query honestly.
How would folks here suggest I answer, when 1) I'd prefer not to address the question at all, but understand that often Japanese ask such questions that Westerners consider personal (on the other hand, the Japanese questioners don't always offer reciprocal information without me prying into their personal affairs, which I wouldn't want to initiate, because to me, marital status is unimportant when assessing potential nampa/sefre targets, and in the optimal circumstances, I'd just prefer to move in fast and boldly, but that's not always possible, and sometimes conversation must fill the void until closure of the nampa or other forms of sefre relationship deal;
2) If I say yes, it sets my image up in the questioners' eyes as "taken," or at least unavailable for nampa or affairs, and if I were to press on with PUA attempts, it could be perceived as brazen when I have ulterior nampa goals in these given settings, but don't want to rock the boat;
3) If I say no, I am straight-out lying from the get-go (which is my perogative, but wouldn't feel great about it if I'm establishing new relationships, whether at nampa or in a bar) and setting myself up for misperceptions down the road as a dishonest, shifty person.
At any rate, thanks for listening; I'd love your input on this.
Gaijin Otoko
11-26-09, 05:24
That question (meaning, "are you here [in Japan] by yourself, married or otherwise unencumbered by a girlfriend/significant other?") -- whether asked of me by a nampa target and/or in a bar by the master, mama or other patrons that could be seen as potential nampa targets at some point -- can derail the best of my intentions, if I answer the query honestly.
I tend to prefer light humor and deflection, which I think is a very Japanese-style response. I try to come up with the most outlandish reason I can think of to answer; (e.g. I am a CIA spy [unless you really are one], I am a space alien here on an exploration mission, I am a time traveler from the future, etc.) As long as you stay away from off-limits subjects (e.g., I'm a spy from North Korea, I'm a ghost, I'm a drug dealer, I'm a yakuza), this generally works. It has to be delivered in the style of a late-night Japanese TV comedian, i.e. 80% deadpan with a slight wry smile on your face. This doesn't work every time, but it works well enough if you commit to it. Once you have deflected the question, move the conversation on to something else as quickly and decisively as possible, and repeat as necessary. Obviously nothing works 100% of the time, but this approach is pretty successful for me. YMMV.
Basketcase42
11-28-09, 06:15
So I put an ad in Metropolis and this chick answers. In that answer she writes:
We possibly meet up for a dinner, but for playtime. It's up to whether the chemistry is right.
Ok. So we go back and forth a few emails and I write.
I am happy to meet you for a nice evening together.
I hope the chemistry is right for you..
I am thinking it would be very nice to play with you.
LOL. So then she writes back.
Anyway, the conversation. Exchanging information with you had went well, but I don't think our chemistry is right.
You suddenly and are straight forward mentioning "chemistry" thing before we know each other well or meet in person, to show me you just want to play with me.
Well, yes the site is sex or play site, I don't blame you about it. Just it's not my thing to see a person to play with only.
WTF?
LOL. I basically parroted back exactly what she told me.
I guess it was a HUGE mistake.
I should have said nothing about play even tho she already had.
Live and learn I guess.
Man. That's fubar.
On to the next.
LOL.
OldAsiaHand
11-28-09, 07:40
Recently, I have only been successful one time with the traditional nampa, "I am lost", approach on the street. It probably has to do with my current age; over 50. I used to be much easier in my younger days.
With the odds quoted in recent posts on this thread, I am worried about wasting my time. Any advice from the veterans would be appreciated.
Case 1: A couple of months ago when I was in Japan, I met a Uni student on the train and started talking to her. Been in contact by email and invited her to dinner next week when I am back in Tokyo. She accepted. What are my chances? How can I increase the odds of converting on the first date?
Case 2: Met a girl from Osaka in a drug store in Singapore last month. She was there on a business trip. We had a coffee and I managed to get her back to my hotel room but nothing happened. She did not give me any signals and I was a bit shy to make an aggressive move. I am headed back to Osaka next week and invited her out after work. She accepted. Same questions as above.
Am I wasting my time pursuing these girls? They are both much younger than I am, however, if there is no interest why did they accept to meet me again?
Thanks.
OAH
There'S no special words you have to say, nor does it matter how good you look, as long as you're presentable and not too, too old. If you're older, just means you have to dress better and possibly go for someone older than 19. You can be 50 or above and still score, but get into shape, get rid of the Nikes and backpack and start investing in good clothes and especially shoes, which means sometimes your feet are going to hurt. Japanese women know brands and respect guys that do also.
One of my wingmen is early 40s, average looking programmer geek, doesn't speak very good Japanese, never goes to bars. The girls he goes after are almost all under the age of 25. We've been in coffee shops, grocery stores, trains, on the street late at night, in Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, Indonesia, you name it. He's the nampa king. He smiles, greets them, says cheesy things, but they almost always reply, and most of the time he can get a phone number and a next meeting. I'm constantly asking myself why they looked at him and not at me, but he just has a relaxed vibe that gets girls to drop their guard. He admits he has never done well with white chicks, but with Asians, he knocks 'them dead. But the one thing he does that a lotta guys don't is when he gets the signal, he doesn't hesitate; he makes his move and talks to them, every time. You got nothing to lose; at worst they'll ignore you, but they'll never be mean to you, unlike American bitches.
Another thing to remember is-you don't go out nampa-ing-its something you are constantly doing, whenever and wherever you are as you go about your daily routine. We're someplace and I turn around and find myself saying to myself, "is he at it again? Jeez-zus, the girl is waiting in line to go to the toilet; give it a rest. " But being around him has really gotten me off my ass and raised the level of my game. Even with him, the chemistry isn't always there; many of his numbers drop off after the first or second meeting, but if you talk to 5 girls in a day and your sack rate is a paltry 10%, then you're getting laid 3 or 4 times a week. Its just like sales—its a numbers game.
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Gaijin Otoko
11-28-09, 14:21
Recently, I have only been successful one time with the traditional nampa, "I am lost", approach on the street. It probably has to do with my current age; over 50. I used to be much easier in my younger days.
With the odds quoted in recent posts on this thread, I am worried about wasting my time. Any advice from the veterans would be appreciated.
Am I wasting my time pursuing these girls? They are both much younger than I am, however, if there is no interest why did they accept to meet me again?
It has been my experience that most J-Girls are extremely passive. This means that many a really hard to read. The only way to know for sure is to push the issue. This is rather risky, as it requires you to put the whole relationship in jeopardy, but are you looking for a life-long companion, or are you simply looking to get laid?
Physical contact is the key. Japanese don't touch each other. So if you are curious, start with some gentle personal contact (e.g. hand on knee, holding hand, arm around shoulder) and very slowly "crank it up." If you get to kiss her on the lips and she doesn't pull away, then most of the time you have the green light, either that time or the next time. Of course, if she just thought of you as a friend, once you try physical contact up to kissing, you are out. It's an all or nothing thing, which requires an acceptance that you might lose everything, but as I said, what is your true goal? If you fail, start again somewhere else. Also be aware that once you have made the beast with two backs, many J-girls view that as a serious bond. I've been looking for a Japanese girl who believes in "casual sex," and I haven't found one so far. She's either hearing wedding bells or cash registers (or sometimes both.)
Also, you probably had a better chance with the girl in Singapore while she was in Singapore. There is a Japanese expression "the traveler throws away shame." It has been well documented on this board that Japanese women tend to be more "adventurous" when taken out of the Japanese context. Japanese society is so tightly structured, and so driven by rumors and intrigues, that simply getting away from that can act like an intoxicant for many Japanese. Remember, America is a guilt culture, Japan is a shame culture.
Am I wasting my time pursuing these girls? They are both much younger than I am, however, if there is no interest why did they accept to meet me again?
The key to laying Japanese girls is in having the logistics worked out ahead of time. Japanese girls will do whatever they feel like doing at the moment, and they will make little or no attempt to rationalize it or justify it. That's one of the things that makes it sometimes possible to fuck a Japanese girl within a few hours of meeting her (even cold stone sober in the middle of the day) - they get excited and horny, and so they let you fuck them.
If you want a chance to lay them, you have to bring them somewhere with a nice atmosphere, with low lighting, where you have some full or semiprivacy and you can get close and start to touch. Keep it light and playful. Keep her laughing. Especially, since you are older, you want to show her a good time.
Unless, they have a distinct thing for older guys, probably, these girls are just meeting you because you seemed interesting to them, and they want to see what will happen. Bring them to a nice bar, or restaurant that is located very close to karaoke and/or love hotels.
Set the mood in the restaurant. They will probably back away from your advances the first few times. It's a bit tricky, you don't want to creep them out, on the other hand, you shouldn't take the first brush off as anything more than that. If she just let's you do whatever you wanted she would think of herself as a sl*t. On the other hand, she wouldn't consider you much of a man if you just took the first brush of as a flat out "no." Just keep gently advancing the touching throughout the evening.
Depending on how the mood develops in the bar, pull her to karaoke or straight to a love hotel. (Another possible, option, if you are staying in a really nice hotel, is to take her there.) Don't ask if she wants to go, just wrap her hand around your arm and take her there. If she asks where you are going, just make some shit up. "Oh, there's something I want to show you," or "I just want to go for a bit of a walk." Don't feel obliged to answer any of her questions in a reasonable fashion. She almost certainly wouldn't do the same for you.
Remember, her mood could change at any moment, and she will do whatever her mood of the moment feels like doing. On the other hand, most Japanese girls will let you set the mood. So set a nice, playful, sexy mood and she will reward you for it.
Azure Knight
11-29-09, 10:18
Xslikx has a great post about this. I feel that physical interaction is the key. If you can start with some light touching and work your way up, the rest will just fall into place. He mentioned going to a place with low lighting or semi-privacy, which is crucial. Japanese people don't really like PDA's, so even if she is into you trying to lay a kiss on her in a place where people might be watching will get you shot down, fast.
Maybe its just me, but I'm not that aggressive normally, so its hard for me to take a girl straight from dinner to a love hotel without some degree of physical interaction first. In my experiences, the girl will also back away.
If you can, take some time before the actual date and scope out some places where you can be semi-private with her and start introducing physical interaction. This will make things much easier.
As was mentioned, karaoke is great. You both get to be alone in a room together, and suggesting karaoke is a lot more innocent than suggesting a love hotel. If your date hates karaoke (has happened to me!), you can still suggest it as a place where you can just hang out and enjoy the soft drink bar.
There are some bars/restaurants with semi-private or closed-off seating. Take a day to scope out your area and try to find a place like this. If you are at a table or a booth, don't try to sit on the same side as her, as this will just be weird and obvious. But counter seats work well because it sits you next to her, and you can start initiating some contact discreetly, like touching her leg under the table.
Even though its getting kinda cold for this, there are scenic or isolated spots outdoors where you could take her. Tell her you want to talk a walk together or just enjoy a view. This plan works a lot better in the Fall/Spring, but its not completely impossible now.
Internet cafes are an option, but not particularly a good one. You get a closed-off, private space, but noise levels are non-existent making conversation difficult. You can get her here by saying there's something on the internet you want to show her or something. Also, most internet cafes require you to register beforehand with ID, so if you are using a fake name this could be a problem. You can register beforehand as a work around though. Its kind of a challenge, but still possible.
And finally, the love hotel, or your own hotel if you have one. If its your hotel room, this is a bit easier, as it isn't quite as obvious as the LH. As was said, you can say there's something you want to show her in your room. Again, a little planning ahead is key - bring something along that she might find interesting - a photo album, something you picked up in a foreign country, whatever. Leave it in your room. Bring it up during your conversation, and if she expresses interest in it offer to show her later. Or, rather than go straight to your room, you can take her to the bar in your hotel, enjoy a few drinks and work on increasing the physical interaction.
For LH, unless things are going really well and you can just get her to follow you there, you may need to work out some sort of excuse. I usually tell them that I have massage credentials (not a lie!) and offer to give them one. I take them to the LH and apologetically say that there aren't really a whole lot of other places where I can give her a massage. She knows its a BS excuse, but you have to have the excuse. Its the free pass. Take her inside, start giving the massage I promised, and the rest is easy.
If she's into you, she'll be willing to go with you wherever, but you have to give her some sort of innocent reason so that she can save face and not look like a ****. If she's not particularly into you, you can still work it, but I think you need that transition between dinner and your hotel/the LH.
RCA Knight
11-29-09, 12:31
Japanese girls are quite easy to understand. When you nampa anywhere and able to pull her to have a meal or drinks, but yes, best is to pull her to karaoke box or movie, or anywhere with some privacy.
That's when you start to test her "guard" against you. By some light touch in non aggressive way. If her guard is light or non resistant against your test, then most likely you can score same night.
As for me I usually invite her somewhere to eat or drink, somewhere near my hotel or near some love hotels, a must. It's hard to pull her all the way to your hotel or condo if it's 1 hour train ride away.
Usually after you test her guard against you, and you passed, it means this girl has good impression and interest in you as well, you can open up and talk more funny or more wild.
Lots of nice Japanese OLs or students love to break routines and have some fun with foriegners. The key to nampa is the probability, and quick observation, if a girl goes with you to a meal or karaoke but resisted your little hand touch, move on to next target.
My question is this; is there any escort services that provide pregnant women for companionship? Or perhaps one that is lactating? And if there are, would the lady be able to travel around the country with me for most of my stay. Also any idea about price would be welcomed also.
I'll save the comments on whether that affliction is disgusting or not. But coming to Japan, you are coming to the right place. Japan has outlets that cater to the most narrowly defined depravities or tastes. So in Tokyo, there is an agency called "Milky Baby" - google it, I won't post the link, it would just be redacted.
Recently, I have only been successful one time with the traditional nampa, "I am lost", approach on the street. It probably has to do with my current age; over 50. I used to be much easier in my younger days.
OAH, old hound dog, you are in the right place. You know me, I know you. Both of us aren't spring chicken material. I'm married to a Japanese 20 years younger than me. I bedded her 30 minutes after we met. You met her. She says hi. She read everything I wrote here and says "hai."
Some pointers:
1.) We think they look much younger than they are. They cannot gauge our age either.
2.) Age difference doesn't play such a big role in Japan. When the subject of marriage came up, I had bigger reservations than her.
3.) If they come with you to your room, then they expect to be fucked. If you don't, you are letting them down. You are supposed to lead the way and to take the initiative.
General observations: Public Display of Affection is a big no-no in Japan. Once behind closed doors, many expect their clothes to be torn off. Don't let that confuse you. And by golly, tear their clothes off once behind closed doors. If you wait until they make a move, you can wait forever and they'll think you are a wimp. Message from my girl: "Once in the room, if they don't want to be fucked, they'll tell you."
Basketcase42
11-29-09, 15:53
So. It seems that taking a gal to karaoke is a great way to move things along.
But I was wondering. Which would be better. To be really good at it or to just suck/be normal? LOL. There are some songs I can sing really well. But should I avoid those in lieu of songs I am only half assed at. Being bad could be more fun and lead to more joking. Being good could impress her and lead to her being more pliant.
Opinions?
LOL.
Have been tied up with two different women for over a year so am a bit out of action. I was wondering if any of you know of any new web sites for "deai." I still regularly look at the love.squares site and the the furin.misty sites (have had numerous successes with both before), but the average age of women advertising on them seems to have dropped quite substantially. I want someone from late 30s to early 50s, and those are not so easy to come by now, it seems.
Thanks.
Azure Knight
11-30-09, 16:41
So. It seems that taking a gal to karaoke is a great way to move things along.
But I was wondering. Which would be better. To be really good at it or to just suck/be normal? LOL. There are some songs I can sing really well. But should I avoid those in lieu of songs I am only half assed at. Being bad could be more fun and lead to more joking. Being good could impress her and lead to her being more pliant.
Opinions?
LOL.
In general I'd say to go for the songs you can do well. But remember, you're not really there to sing - you just want to get her in that private booth. Reserve the room for an hour, and after 30 minutes you should already be thinking about the love hotel you want to take her to.
OldAsiaHand
12-01-09, 11:07
It went pretty much as you guys said. Dinner at a romantic Italian restaurant near my hotel. Her attitude from the start was good. She even initiated the first touch in a friendly sort of way on the way to the restaurant. I made my first move with the electronic dictionary kind of brushing her hand and leaving it there at the dinner table. She did not seem to resist.
After dinner, we walked back to my hotel. I told her I wanted to show her something in my room. No hesitation whatsoever.
Up to the room we went and the rest is history. Sorry Zhuren, but I did not tear off her clothes as you suggested. I was a bit more subtle but it worked anyway. The only regret I have is that it was almost 10PM when we got back to the hotel and the last train home was at 11:30 so it had to be a quickie. I wanted her to stay overnight but she lives at home and her uni is nearly 2 hours from downtown Tokyo.
She will be here again in an hour for the second round. I told her to make an excuse tonight so she can stay over.
Thanks again for the advice. It was much easier than I expected. And, she even brought me a gift on top of it. Did I just get lucky this time?
I feel like a school boy again!
OAH
Thanks again for the advice. It was much easier than I expected. And, she even brought me a gift on top of it. Did I just get lucky this time?
Awww, what was the gift? Albeit not in Japan but rather Bangkok, I got a CD of music from a girl recently. Great excuse to head to my room so we could listen to it.
OldAsiaHand
12-02-09, 16:27
Awww, what was the gift? Albeit not in Japan but rather Bangkok, I got a CD of music from a girl recently. Great excuse to head to my room so we could listen to it.
Pita123,
Christmas cookies and a coffee mug.
OAH
P.S. Off to Osaka tomorrow for Case #2. Will keep you informed.
OldAsiaHand
12-03-09, 15:49
Also, you probably had a better chance with the girl in Singapore while she was in Singapore. There is a Japanese expression "the traveler throws away shame." It has been well documented on this board that Japanese women tend to be more "adventurous" when taken out of the Japanese context. Japanese society is so tightly structured, and so driven by rumors and intrigues, that simply getting away from that can act like an intoxicant for many Japanese. Remember, America is a guilt culture, Japan is a shame culture.
Gaijin Otoko,
Met her at my hotel around 9:30pm after a business dinner. Starbucks for a coffee. Inside was full so we had to sit outside. Very cold so I suggested going back to the hotel. Same line as Case #1; "I want to show you something in the room". Get to the room and she is standing in the doorway not entering the room. "Why don't we go back down to the lobby to chat?" I am thinking I better cut and run. Finally, I managed to get her into the room. I spent an hour and a half chatting and not even getting close. She just left for the last train home.
You were right. I had a much better chance in Singapore. She seemed much more comfortable in my room there. Next time, I will know better.
OAH
Gaijin Otoko
12-04-09, 02:24
You were right. I had a much better chance in Singapore. She seemed much more comfortable in my room there. Next time, I will know better.
OAH
Sorry to hear Case 2 didn't work out, but it sounds like Case 1 sort of makes up for it. As others here have indicated, since you got Case 2 to your hotel room in Singapore, when you didn't convert there, she may have figured you weren't interested. There's also a very noticeable personality shift that goes on in a lot of Japanese people when they are overseas versus "back home." When she was back in the Land of the Rising Sun, she may have switched from wanton vixen to ice princess. Remember with Japanese, it's all about fulfilling what roles society has thrust upon them, rather than what they really want. Better luck next time, and congrats on number one.
You were right. I had a much better chance in Singapore. She seemed much more comfortable in my room there. Next time, I will know better.
I'm learning a good deal from your experience. The problem is that I never have time for random encounters with Japanese women.
don't put up with this crap. this is completely inappropriate behavior in japan, as the concept of blue balling is one i have not experienced. i've even heard that in a situation where a woman willingly goes to your room and gets raped, the police just let it go.
the rule here is that women only go to your room if interested, otherwise they refuse. makes things very simple.
gaijin otoko,
met her at my hotel around 9:30pm after a business dinner. starbucks for a coffee. inside was full so we had to sit outside. very cold so i suggested going back to the hotel. same line as case #1; "i want to show you something in the room". get to the room and she is standing in the doorway not entering the room. "why don't we go back down to the lobby to chat? " i am thinking i better cut and run. finally, i managed to get her into the room. i spent an hour and a half chatting and not even getting close. she just left for the last train home.
you were right. i had a much better chance in singapore. she seemed much more comfortable in my room there. next time, i will know better.
oah
Your logic is sound, but in my experience as a former JET and Nova guy, and later namping J-girls in my university, I have found the opposite: the kind of J-girls that go abroad are more interested in nagging and b__ching like our own women. The one exception is the casual traveller, the girl in NYC for a couple of days; and this girl better be alone. I don't know how to separate two Japanese on vacation.
Even then, I still say in country is the best. You have sexy girls, low competition and heightened status as a foreigner.
It has been my experience that most J-Girls are extremely passive. This means that many a really hard to read. The only way to know for sure is to push the issue. This is rather risky, as it requires you to put the whole relationship in jeopardy, but are you looking for a life-long companion, or are you simply looking to get laid?
Physical contact is the key. Japanese don't touch each other. So if you are curious, start with some gentle personal contact (e. G. Hand on knee, holding hand, arm around shoulder) and very slowly "crank it up. " If you get to kiss her on the lips and she doesn't pull away, then most of the time you have the green light, either that time or the next time. Of course, if she just thought of you as a friend, once you try physical contact up to kissing, you are out. It's an all or nothing thing, which requires an acceptance that you might lose everything, but as I said, what is your true goal? If you fail, start again somewhere else. Also be aware that once you have made the beast with two backs, many J-girls view that as a serious bond. I've been looking for a Japanese girl who believes in "casual sex, " and I haven't found one so far. She's either hearing wedding bells or cash registers (or sometimes both.)
Also, you probably had a better chance with the girl in Singapore while she was in Singapore. There is a Japanese expression "the traveler throws away shame. " It has been well documented on this board that Japanese women tend to be more "adventurous" when taken out of the Japanese context. Japanese society is so tightly structured, and so driven by rumors and intrigues, that simply getting away from that can act like an intoxicant for many Japanese. Remember, America is a guilt culture, Japan is a shame culture.
I'm an old Japan hand with many j-girl pick-ups. I'll be in Tokyo in early January for a week and would like to hit up some nampa with a wingmate. I'm late twenties, beginner Japanese. Most of my time has been in the Kansai region and I am only superficially knowledgable about Tokyo. Please PM.
OldAsiaHand
12-06-09, 03:08
Sorry to hear Case 2 didn't work out, but it sounds like Case 1 sort of makes up for it. As others here have indicated, since you got Case 2 to your hotel room in Singapore, when you didn't convert there, she may have figured you weren't interested. There's also a very noticeable personality shift that goes on in a lot of Japanese people when they are overseas versus "back home." When she was back in the Land of the Rising Sun, she may have switched from wanton vixen to ice princess. Remember with Japanese, it's all about fulfilling what roles society has thrust upon them, rather than what they really want. Better luck next time, and congrats on number one.
I asked her why the change. She told me she was "angry" at her colleagues in Singapore and wanted someone to "talk to" that night. In Osaka, she seemed on edge the whole time in my room. I doubt that I will try again with this one. At least, not in Japan.
OAH
OldAsiaHand
12-06-09, 03:15
I'm learning a good deal from your experience. The problem is that I never have time for random encounters with Japanese women.
Pita123,
I also get very busy when I am in Japan but I use every opportunity to meet girls. I am constantly chatting up women on the train and asking for directions on the street even if I know the way. I try to exchange business cards or get a phone number.
What I try to do is arrange my trips to arrive a day early and/or leave a day later than my business schedule in order to follow-up.
OAH
What I try to do is arrange my trips to arrive a day early and/or leave a day later than my business schedule in order to follow-up.
Makes sense. I typically arrive in Japan from Bangkok, so I'm usually arriving as late as possible and leaving as soon as possible to get back to Bangkok.
Azure Knight
12-08-09, 16:51
Have been tied up with two different women for over a year so am a bit out of action. I was wondering if any of you know of any new web sites for "deai." I still regularly look at the love.squares site and the the furin.misty sites (have had numerous successes with both before), but the average age of women advertising on them seems to have dropped quite substantially. I want someone from late 30s to early 50s, and those are not so easy to come by now, it seems.
Thanks.
I'm also interested in the virtual nampa scene, I don't really have the time or ability to devote to regular nampa, so the internet is my best option. I was using a social networking site pretty decently up until now, but its gotten lame as of late and I think I need a new/better source. Does anyone know of anything good?
If you don't want to share with everyone PM please.
I Fail At Nanpa
12-14-09, 09:06
Even then, I still say in country is the best. You have sexy girls, low competition and heightened status as a foreigner.As a foreigner your status is much LOWER than a Japanese guy if you try to go for the hotter girls. (20-30 age group)
If you're looking for age 30+ then being foreigner probably helps. But to be honest I'd rather find a couple of younger 8-9's than two hundred older 6's. The problem of course is that 8-9's know they're hot, get hit on 17 times a day (at least), and could not care less you are foreigner. It may help you get them to talk to you. But that's all they'll do unless you have serious game. I apparently don't..
As far as Japanese overseas: they are FAR easier than Japanese in Japan (at least in Tokyo). In Tokyo you are just "one of those foreigners". They don't even view you as a person until/unless they get to know you. In other words you're coming from a lower social standpoint. In the US *THEY* are the foreigner, usually have very few friends, and in general are at a lower social standpoint. In "your own turf" you represent fun and excitement she wouldn't have otherwise. But in Japan if anything you represent someone she's going to have to "take care of" and show YOU around. Some of them (the "mother types") might actually like that. But again those are usually older and probably not as hot. The hot ones are usually just interested in having a good time and as a foreigner unless you're a party guy AND have game you don't really represent that.
I hate to make this sound like a market, but in essence a J girl in her 30's is "damaged goods" from a Japanese guy's standpoint. There's an underlying assumption that if a girl is that old and is not married already then something must be wrong with her. It doesn't (and probably isn't) have to be true. But the point is that the reason older J girls seem to be more open to foreigners is not that they prefer foreigners. It is that they have no choice. No one other than foreigners is interested in them. That isn't to say that there aren't any hot single J girls in their 30's. There are. But the reason they're "easier" is NOT because J girls as a whole prefer foreigners. Unfortunately most J girls with their options still open (read: young) prefer Japanese guys.
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I have to disagree with some of these points. Japanese women abroad are usually the "outliers", women that don't like Japan and want the "freedom" in USA to blue ball, whatever. These women, I have found are much more asexual than in Japan. In Japan, you are also the novel one and face less competition, not only from the ridiculasly high USA standards but from the more "hands-off" J-man approach. You also have the prospect of a long-term relationship, which most J-girls want, even if they are more apt then USA women for one-night stands.
I've heard that foreigners don't get the really hot women in Japan, but I think this has to do with, that A. Hot women in Japan don't care to learn English (Let's face it, the "hot" foreigner thing here is very contraindicated by the abysmally low level of English ability) and B. There aren't that many stunners in Japan. This is a very homogenous racial society. Many women look simlar. I feel Japanese women are very beautiful, in spirit and body, but it is rare to find those outliers (hot or ugly) in this culture. It's rare to see them on the street. I also would disagree that they represent 8s. I've dated (in my early 20s) several 7-8s. They aren't that hard to get for a handsome, witty young guy.
This brings me to another point, upon my return to Japan in 07 for a few months, I noticed a marked change of attention from J-girls, then my first year stint in 04. I was only a few years older, still in good shape, but I lost some of my boyish charm. Med school has that affect on oneself. I still hooked up, but I got stood up a couple of times and a lot of blow offs.
I feel in my bones that being foreign (had a modest advantage traditionally) isn't what it used to be unless you are a black hip hop dude.
P.S. I'm definitely open to to advice on picking up J-women abroad, as it sounds like you've had success. In my experience, the abroad trip these women take has more to do with getting away from the culture that makes them polite and behave admirably. The one exception I've seen is the novel traveler. I've hooked up (and not) with some j-travelers visiting NYC. When I was in Italy, I met some J-women definitely wanting some cock. Almost every other experience I've had out of Japan was at American universities, and I can tell you, their sexuality level is on par with USA chicks.
As a foreigner your status is much LOWER than a Japanese guy if you try to go for the hotter girls. (20-30 age group)
If you're looking for age 30+ then being foreigner probably helps. But to be honest I'd rather find a couple of younger 8-9's than two hundred older 6's. The problem of course is that 8-9's know they're hot, get hit on 17 times a day (at least), and could not care less you are foreigner. It may help you get them to talk to you. But that's all they'll do unless you have serious game. I apparently don't.
As far as Japanese overseas: they are FAR easier than Japanese in Japan (at least in Tokyo). In Tokyo you are just "one of those foreigners". They don't even view you as a person until/unless they get to know you. In other words you're coming from a lower social standpoint. In the US *THEY* are the foreigner, usually have very few friends, and in general are at a lower social standpoint. In "your own turf" you represent fun and excitement she wouldn't have otherwise. But in Japan if anything you represent someone she's going to have to "take care of" and show YOU around. Some of them (the "mother types") might actually like that. But again those are usually older and probably not as hot. The hot ones are usually just interested in having a good time and as a foreigner unless you're a party guy AND have game you don't really represent that.
I hate to make this sound like a market, but in essence a J girl in her 30's is "damaged goods" from a Japanese guy's standpoint. There's an underlying assumption that if a girl is that old and is not married already then something must be wrong with her. It doesn't (and probably isn't) have to be true. But the point is that the reason older J girls seem to be more open to foreigners is not that they prefer foreigners. It is that they have no choice. No one other than foreigners is interested in them. That isn't to say that there aren't any hot single J girls in their 30's. There are. But the reason they're "easier" is NOT because J girls as a whole prefer foreigners. Unfortunately most J girls with their options still open (read: young) prefer Japanese guys.
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I'm an old Japan hand with many j-girl pick-ups. I'll be in Tokyo in early January for a week and would like to hit up some nampa with a wingmate. I'm late twenties, beginner Japanese. Most of my time has been in the Kansai region and I am only superficially knowledgable about Tokyo. Please PM.Anyone want to Nampa?
I Fail At Nanpa
12-15-09, 21:36
These women, I have found are much more asexual than in Japan.Heheh, we've obviously dated a very different kind of J-girl abroad. The ones I've dated were insanely sexual. Hell, most of them hit on me rather than the other way around.. (by "hit on me" I mean we became "friends" through a mutual friend, language exchange site, or other. Until THEY initiated a kiss. Happened with 3 out of 5 J-girls)
In Japan, you are also the novel one and face less competition, not only from the ridiculasly high USA standards but from the more "hands-off" J-man approach. You also have the prospect of a long-term relationship, which most J-girls want, even if they are more apt then USA women for one-night stands.Less competition? Maybe in 2004. Right now there are so many foreigners here that whenever I go to a club half the guys there are foreigner. The girls at clubs (at least the regulars) have already learned that "foreigners are players". Not to mention younger Japanese guys (early 20's) these days are a lot more direct and "hands-on" than foreigners. One of the more memorable events lately was seeing a couple of Japanese guys go in very energetic and over the top, start dancing with a couple of very hot girls, and within a minute started making out with them.
This brings me to another point, upon my return to Japan in 07 for a few months, I noticed a marked change of attention from J-girls, then my first year stint in 04. I was only a few years older, still in good shape, but I lost some of my boyish charm. Med school has that affect on oneself. I still hooked up, but I got stood up a couple of times and a lot of blow offs. [/bquote]That's the thing. I think a lot has changed in the past few years. I was here 3 years ago and it was MUCH easier. The foreigner card definitely helped back then. Now however there are so many foreigners around, and in general foreigners' image has taken a nose dive due to various factors. That it really doesn't help you as far as I can tell. Only with girls who are specifically LOOKING for foreigners. And some of those you'd want to avoid. (if you've been to Roppongi you know what I'm talking about..
You'll still be able to get average girls. But that's because they are neglected/ignored by Japanese guys. What you might consider an 8 as a foreigner would most likely be considered a 5 to a Japanese guy. On the upside however it works both ways. You could be considered a 5 by American girls, but an 8 by Japanese..
[QUOTE=Barronz8006]I feel in my bones that being foreign (had a modest advantage traditionally) isn't what it used to be unless you are a black hip hop dude.Exactly.
P.S. I'm definitely open to to advice on picking up J-women abroad, as it sounds like you've had success.I've only dated 5 J-girls so it's not like I have too much experience, but in general the common theme was we met through some sort of language exchange setting (site or meetup). World friends for example. In general most J-girls who are looking for "language exchange" are in fact looking for a boyfriend. This is a good thing because it makes things easier. But it's also bad because the type of girl who needs a website to meet guys typically has a "flaw" that prevents her from meeting them otherwise. Examples:
Girl 1: Dumped by her fiance. We didn't have anything in common but I think she was just happy to jump on the first guy that came along.
Girl 2: Great personality, but ugly.
Girl 3: Spontaneously made out with me despite having a boyfriend. She now has a different boyfriend. And still makes out with me randomly. Girls suck.
Girl 4: Very sweet and VERY good looking. But she's literally scared of people. Every attempt I've made to get her to hang out with my friends failed. It's a shame too. She would've been a keeper if she was more social.
Girl 5: Had absolutely nothing wrong with her. But then again I met her at a party through a mutual friend and NOT through a language exchange setting.
Out of curiosity. How old are you now? I might be up for some nanpa'ing but it depends on what and where. My "target market" is in the 20-30 range. (I'm 30 myself)
Tokyo Nampa King
12-16-09, 04:10
Girl 1: Dumped by her fiance. We didn't have anything in common but I think she was just happy to jump on the first guy that came along.
Did you happen to marry this one? And currently have a daughter with her? If so I think I may know you.
LoL
Evan Stoner
12-16-09, 05:47
There aren't that many stunners in Japan.Please specify the Japan you are referring to. Clearly it's not the one I live in.
ES
I have to disagree with the bulk of your post, actually, mate, (or should I say "doc"?) but to each his own.
Just to throw in two points: There are plenty of smoking hot women who speak bloody perfect English in Japan. Maybe not in the water trade but a lot of these mizu shobai girls aren't that educated to begin with, sad to say. Still even in that line you can find a few who go to language schools, and I'd bet with a higher success rate than you could if looking for American chicks who speak Japanese.
Two: Japan is like any country. Go into the cities and you'll find the pretty girls easily. Not because they're for some reason more appealing than country girls (most of them are transplants from inaka anyway) but because you just have more people so the ratio is better. Walk through Osaka and you'll see quite a few 8s and over. You can't miss 'em.
Still, pity about losing the boyish charm.
I have to disagree with some of these points. Japanese women abroad are usually the "outliers", women that don't like Japan and want the "freedom" in USA to blue ball, whatever. These women, I have found are much more asexual than in Japan. In Japan, you are also the novel one and face less competition, not only from the ridiculasly high USA standards but from the more "hands-off" J-man approach. You also have the prospect of a long-term relationship, which most J-girls want, even if they are more apt then USA women for one-night stands.
I've heard that foreigners don't get the really hot women in Japan, but I think this has to do with, that A. Hot women in Japan don't care to learn English (Let's face it, the "hot" foreigner thing here is very contraindicated by the abysmally low level of English ability) and B. There aren't that many stunners in Japan. This is a very homogenous racial society. Many women look simlar. I feel Japanese women are very beautiful, in spirit and body, but it is rare to find those outliers (hot or ugly) in this culture. It's rare to see them on the street. I also would disagree that they represent 8s. I've dated (in my early 20s) several 7-8s. They aren't that hard to get for a handsome, witty young guy.
This brings me to another point, upon my return to Japan in 07 for a few months, I noticed a marked change of attention from J-girls, then my first year stint in 04. I was only a few years older, still in good shape, but I lost some of my boyish charm. Med school has that affect on oneself. I still hooked up, but I got stood up a couple of times and a lot of blow offs.
I feel in my bones that being foreign (had a modest advantage traditionally) isn't what it used to be unless you are a black hip hop dude.
P.S. I'm definitely open to to advice on picking up J-women abroad, as it sounds like you've had success. In my experience, the abroad trip these women take has more to do with getting away from the culture that makes them polite and behave admirably. The one exception I've seen is the novel traveler. I've hooked up (and not) with some j-travelers visiting NYC. When I was in Italy, I met some J-women definitely wanting some cock. Almost every other experience I've had out of Japan was at American universities, and I can tell you, their sexuality level is on par with USA chicks.
Hey guys, I'm not really sure if my question is suitable for this thread, so I apologize in advance if it isn't.
Anyhow, some girl that I met from japancupid is coming over to my place tomorrow. She's into video games, and wants to check out a new game that I bought (if you're really that curious, it's Final Fantasy XIII). I've dated her twice, but the dates have been pretty tame. No hugs, no kisses, no intimate touching.
Is the fact that she's coming over to my place a green light to put the moves on her? She even suggested that we drink some champagne. I'm horrible at detecting signals, so any advice would be greatly appreciated. If it helps, japancupid is a dating site, so I assume she's interested in a relationship.
My next question is kind of off topic, but it's concerning mixi.
In the past week, my friends list has gone from 6 people to 21 people. I'm slowly but surely making some progress. The only question is: how exactly do you get past that "thank you for adding me" stage? I tried to do a couple of friendly message exchanges before eventually asking if they'd be interested in meeting up. So far only one girl has said yes, and the rest seem to have dodged my question completely. Have you guys had any luck with girls from certain mixi communities?
Gaijin Otoko
12-24-09, 15:14
hey guys, i'm not really sure if my question is suitable for this thread, so i apologize in advance if it isn't.
anyhow, some girl that i met from japancupid is coming over to my place tomorrow. she's into video games, and wants to check out a new game that i bought (if you're really that curious, it's final fantasy xiii). i've dated her twice, but the dates have been pretty tame. no hugs, no kisses, no intimate touching.
is the fact that she's coming over to my place a green light to put the moves on her? she even suggested that we drink some champagne. i'm horrible at detecting signals, so any advice would be greatly appreciated. if it helps, japancupid is a dating site, so i assume she's interested in a relationship.
"faint heart never won fair maiden." if she comes to your house alone and the suggesting you get drunk on top of it sounds to me like not only is she interested, she's begging for it. you said no hugs, kisses or intimate touching. are you waiting for her to initiate it? because if you do, you will be waiting forever. there is a small percentage of japanese women who are very bold and forward, but they are a tiny minority. most japanese women expect the man to take a risk and go for it. to be completely honest though, i think this might also be your last chance, because it sounds to me like she is going "all in." if you don't make your move here, you'll never get to.
the real challenge for western men with japanese women is reading the signals. most japanese women come across as extremely passive, even disinterested. where it really gets tricky is that some japanese women will feign resistance to your advances, just so you won't think she's easy. the general rule of thumb is that you can mostly ignore what she says, and go on the basis of her actions. as someone else on this forum said, she'll let you know if she's not interested. if she tries to get up and/or leave, then let her. otherwise, press on. in america, you might be accused of 'date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)." in japan, it's just the rules of the game. the general rule of thumb is that if a woman consents to being alone with you, she is interested. she would never be alone with a japanese man, especially at his house, unless she wanted to get it on with him.
it sounds to me like she is giving you not just a green light, but a green spotlight. buck up your courage, throw away 150 years of western victorian/feminist bullshit, and go for it. and let us know how it turns out. good luck!
Evan Stoner
12-24-09, 17:39
Anyhow, some girl that I met from japancupid is coming over to my place tomorrow. Is the fact that she's coming over to my place a green light to put the moves on her? She even suggested that we drink some champagne.Short answer: jump on that posthaste. Even if you don't close the deal on this date (which I think you definitely could) you should at least get to a higher stage of physical intimacy, leading to other good things in the near future. Plus, you are talking about Christmas day? Christmas is big in Japan for couples (although eve is bigger) so she may be trying to advance the relationship. Plus it's Friday. Take the hint. If by her actions OR words she indicates she's not ready, downshift and bide your time.
In the past week, my friends list has gone from 6 people to 21 people. I'm slowly but surely making some progress. The only question is: how exactly do you get past that "thank you for adding me" stage? I tried to do a couple of friendly message exchanges before eventually asking if they'd be interested in meeting up. So far only one girl has said yes, and the rest seem to have dodged my question completely. Have you guys had any luck with girls from certain mixi communities?Short answer: Mixi gives relatively slow results for what you seem to be looking for. Not everyone is on there to 'meet' people. For better results stick to Japan Cupid or World Friends -type sites. Mixi is more appropriate if you want to join communities, hang out virtually and grow relationships much more gradually.
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Chocha Monger
12-25-09, 00:24
If you're a charming handsome man Japanese girls will pay you to fuck them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btpFBXmB0xE&feature=related
A hard dick and soft words are all you need to succeed in Japan.
Thank you very much for your posts, guys! Your information will be invaluable to me. It all finally makes sense after you guys shed some light on how it works in Japan.
Unfortunately, I read your posts after she came over. But the good news?: we went the whole nine yards. I was able to use my own instincts and succeeded. Pretty much everything you guys mentioned about Japanese girls was true; I just continued to press on, and she eventually gave in. Our intimate session probably lasted for about 4-5 hours. Maybe even longer. I kind of lost track of time, and we finally went to bed like at 5:30 am (after taking a shower together). I was afraid that she might have been vulnerable because she was drunk, but we woke up together and were pretty touchy feely, and also walked to the station holding hands.
My only concern is that it was unprotected sex. While I of course pulled out, I'm hoping she isn't carrying any sort of STD's. She didn't bring condoms with her, and I didn't have any on hand either. I didn't want to leave her hanging and run over to the convenience store to buy some condoms, because that most likely would have totally killed the mood. So instead, I just went on.
Might I also mention that she was SO tight? So tight in fact, that even my penis was hurting. Of course the pain went away and it felt really good after awhile. The other two girls that I nailed in the past were never this tight. I'm thinking this current girl hasn't had too much sex in the past? That, or she's naturally tight.
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I Fail At Nanpa
12-27-09, 07:49
Did you happen to marry this one? And currently have a daughter with her? If so I think I may know you.
LoLNo, I'm the guy who dated her BEFORE him. LOL!
Actually, she did get married (to another guy) - but I don't think they have a kid yet.
I Fail At Nanpa
12-27-09, 08:45
I was afraid that she might have been vulnerable because she was drunk, but we woke up together and were pretty touchy feely, and also walked to the station holding hands.Dude, you care too much. Who cares if she was drunk? If she didn't want to have sex with you she wouldn't be getting drunk with you alone in your room!!
American girls often use being drunk as an excuse to explain to themselves why they had sex with someone they just recently met. "I'm not easy - I was just drunk!!". It doesn't mean they don't WANT to have sex - it just means they want an excuse to rationalize that they're not easy. Japanese girls actually tend to not rationalize at all. They liked you so they fucked you - that's it. It makes things a lot easier as they'll usually stick around later. (if you want them to.. and sometimes even if you don't... lol)
Note that having sex while drunk is not the same as making out while drunk. To have sex with you - a girl must like you enough to actually want to get to know you. In your case you've obviously already spent enough time with her for her to be comfortable enough with you to have sex. a mistake a lot of guys make though is they think just because they had a hot makeout session at a club with a girl they just met she likes them. It doesn't work like that - girls at a club will make out with anything that has a pulse and a lot of confidence. But if you JUST make out with her there is no way she's picking up the phone the next day when you call. She doesn't know anything about you - you're just a stranger she had some fun with at the club while drunk ("I was drunk!" excuse). She knows you don't know anything about her, and she knows you just want to fuck her. Why else would you be calling? Why should she fuck a random stranger she just met while drunk?
So in other words- if you've already spent the time to get to know the girl - don't worry about her being drunk, ever. If you just met her - it may be an issue and you're better off in general to get to know her first before you stick your tongue (or worse/better!) in her mouth. ;)
My only concern is that it was unprotected sex. While I of course pulled out, I'm hoping she isn't carrying any sort of STD's. She didn't bring condoms with her, and I didn't have any on hand either. I didn't want to leave her hanging and run over to the convenience store to buy some condoms, because that most likely would have totally killed the mood. So instead, I just went on.I'm sorry for being harsh- but WTF?! you've got a girl coming to your place, you know you're going to drink together, and you know there's a good possibility you'll end up in bed - why the hell didn't you buy condoms ahead of time?!? You should keep condoms in your room at all times just in case! too late now - but make sure you are prepared next time.
As far as STD's go - what type of girl is she? if she's a party girl then you definitely want to get tested. If she's more of a shy girl and doesn't seem to be having sex a lot then you're probably safe - but get tested anyway.
Next time she's over, just talk to her. Tell her you're worried because you've had unprotected sex so you wanted to see if she's ever been tested. Hell, go get tested together - make it a date!! another thing you definitely want to ask her is whether she's on the pill or not (probably not). an STD you can usually recover from - a baby you can't. (well, she can abort - but what if she doesn't want to? or worse- what if she thinks keeping the baby means she gets to keep YOU? "I'm pregnant" can be the ultimate weapon for a J-girl eager to get married...)
OldAsiaHand
12-28-09, 04:26
As I posted, with the advice from this thread, I had a great experience last month with a college girl that I had met previously on the train. I did her twice and the second night she stayed overnight with me in the hotel. She brought me gifts.
Now, she does not reply to my email. Did I not satisfy her sexually? Does she have regrets about what she did?
I will be back in Tokyo again next month and was hoping to see her again. What can I do now?
Thanks.
OAH
Now, she does not reply to my email. Did I not satisfy her sexually? Does she have regrets about what she did?
I will be back in Tokyo again next month and was hoping to see her again. What can I do now?
OAH
Sounds like you did everything right, and you are just SOL. She may have met or returned to a BF, which often happens after a walk on the wild side with a foreign guy. They think "well that was fun", but they know there is little chance in a real future with it. As everyone knows, guys love to have a bunch of girls in every port, but only a small percentage of girls want/need a stable of guys.
Looks like you'll be back on the Nampa Trail.
AussieGaigin
12-28-09, 05:03
It has been a while since I played the nampa scene here in Sydney, having lost most of my Japanese industry connections over the past few years.
But a couple of weeks ago I was at a business reception, and whilst chatting to various guests (mostly locals) this attractive Asian girl wanders into our group. She introduced herself, mentioned she was from Japan, and I couldn't control myself LOL. She looked mid 20s, and recently arrived here on a 2 year assignment for her company.
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As she had potential as a future business contact, I managed to exchange contact details for future reference. I emailed her a couple of days later to confirm our discussion, and suggested she might like to meet for a coffee or meal one evening. Her eagerness suggested that more was possible so after settling on a date, I booked a reasonable priced hotel room in the city just in case.
Had a quick coffee to learn that she was in her late 30s, married with the husband at home in TYO, and living on her own here (although she went back to visit him at irregular intervals), with few English speaking friends but was keen to learn.
After this, we decided to walk around the city to look for a J restaurant. Plenty of physical contact along the way was an encouraging sign, so after a good meal and a couple of drinks we continued walking, quite coincidentally past the hotel I was "staying" at for the night. When I suggested I wanted to slip up to the room to get something, she happily followed, and the rest, as they say, "was history". Had a fun filled night, and packed her off home the next morning; definitely a "woman deprived".
She has gone back home now for the New Year break, so I am looking forward to seeing if there is any follow up on her return.
Not a bad result for a 65 year old, eh??
Chocha Monger
12-28-09, 05:10
As I posted, with the advice from this thread, I had a great experience last month with a college girl that I had met previously on the train. I did her twice and the second night she stayed overnight with me in the hotel. She brought me gifts.
Now, she does not reply to my email. Did I not satisfy her sexually? Does she have regrets about what she did?
I will be back in Tokyo again next month and was hoping to see her again. What can I do now?
Thanks.
OAH
Maybe you didn't lay good pipe. The gifts sound like she was giving you a consolation prize. Don't dwell on it. Just move on to the next one.
The Black Rose
12-30-09, 08:00
Wow I've been away for a while and totally forgot that I made that post, yeah well I'm 25 and I've been here for two years but... I still am new to the nampa scene, mainly my energies have been spread out very thing so I really don't do nampa that much, I have had some hot girls in the past, here, some ugly ones, some gaijin hunter ones, etc etc but yeah I do know of a guy like the one you guys mentioned who would spend 20 hours a week just getting women, approaching them etc...
I guess you just have to be passionate about it and not think about the failures. I went nampa-ing the other day after a long time of just not really caring and I actually had some fun got a few numbers and meets planned out for after the new year. Its been a lot better than before where I felt that it was a chore.
Of course I won't be making this a second job and nampa-ing women for 25 hours a week but still I just think its the feeling you give off, and actually enjoying what you're doing, its especially fun when you only focus on the super hot chicks there you don't expect much and take it less seriously and if a chick does like you enough its like an added bonus
Haven't bedded anyone form the same night.. Well actually once but that was like a year ago and she was giving me heavy eye contact from the bar window where she was drinking alone... So of course that was a freebie there. But I know that eventually I'll be able to bed women constantly... Someday haha.
That strikes me, again, as a fairly weird idea. I don't know how old BR is but I do know from what he's written that he's new to the scene in Japan.
My experience has been that some of the girls I dated years ago (before I came to Japan or last year in Japan, whatever) were really hot and as you say "keepers" and sometimes I still think about them and wonder why I didn't stay with them. But the fact that I didn't "settle down" with them greatly increased my chances of getting other girls and some of the girls I've picked up since then have also been really hot. I don't think I could honestly say any one girl was the "best I've ever had" because people are so different.
My point is that the quality and the number of the hot girls that you get in a city like Tokyo or Osaka depends to a great extent on your own actions. I knew a guy in Osaka who was not any better at Japanese or better looking than me (and he had a far worse job) but he was always dating the type of super hot J-girls who are generally out of bounds for gaijin. Once I asked him how he did it. He told me that he spent 15 (?!) hours a week standing at one of the busiest pedestrian intersections in south Osaka and talking to every hot girl who walked by. Now that takes incredible commitment and an ego built like a brick shit-house, but it got results.
Azure Knight
12-30-09, 16:09
Less competition? Maybe in 2004. Right now there are so many foreigners here that whenever I go to a club half the guys there are foreigner.
I am by no means a nampa pro, far from it. From what I understand, the scene has changed a lot over the past few years, and I think this has a lot to do with it.
IMO there are three types of Japanese girl. The ones who actively want to date or fuck foreign guys, the type who doesn't think about it but wouldn't be opposed to it, and the type who never ever would. I don't think this dynamic has changed much over the years - but now there are more foreign guys here in general so your gaijin chaser can be a little bit more picky, whereas before she had to go hunt down whatever she could find.
So now you have to put in a little more work, or change your target line. The young hot girls will always be the most difficult. Lots of guys turn their noses up at 30 year olds - especially Japanese guys. I've had the best experiences with the 30-40 crowd - usually easier, better in bed, and less BS to deal with. Get one in her early 30's too and she looks just as good as the 20 year old.
Azure Knight
12-30-09, 16:28
Have you guys had any luck with girls from certain mixi communities?
I've been on mixi for a few years now, so I'll tell you what I've experienced so far.
The "ero" communities are more or less a waste. They're flooded with Japanese guys looking for the quick fix, same as you. The women who are there are mostly just all talk or show. Most people there have gotten all high and mighty, and if a guy just posts up his stats and is clearly fishing, then people will jump down his throat pretty hard. That having been said, it doesn't hurt to join a few and just post non-fishing messages - if you post something intersting, it gets people to your profile page, and hopefully you can hook them from there.
If you have the time/desire, you can just make a non-player profile and also deal with the girls looking for serious boyfriends. I used to have a more normal profile, and I met up with girls who were looking for boyfriends. Hooked up with a 1 or 2, but I really don't have the time for that and I ended up breaking one girls heart, felt guilty about that. So I just put on my page that I'm not looking for committment, and make sure to tell anyone I meet that as well. I could probably score more if I wasn't up front about that, but I'm trying to avoid situations like the one I just described.
There are a few communities for English, as well as making foreign friends - try joining those. That's where you'll find the girls most interested in foreigners.
On my profile page, I clearly state that I'm not looking for a serious relationship, and I write diary entries about sexual experiences. So I just post regular stuff across the various communities - that gets people to my page, and if they check out my profile and my diary and see what I'm all about and they're interested, they can contact me. That's usually a pretty good first step. Also, if someone posts a comment to my diary I can message them, and I regularly check the footprints page - if I see someone visits my page regularly I might send them a message.
If you start messaging someone, the next step is to get it to keitai email. You shouldn't try to do it too quickly - maybe wait for 2-3 days before asking, but don't take longer than a week or so. You can say its easier to message by keitai, or you can say you'd like to trade pictures (since you can't send images through mixi's messaging system). Once you are messaging by keitai, suggest meeting up after another 2-3 days. Sooner if things are really going well. Do NOT let things stagnate over mail though, as this will ruin your chances in general.
Don't bother with the friends list too much. I think I've only hooked up with maybe 5% of the people I've had as friends. Messages -> keitai -> meeting in person.
Much like regular nampa, its all about the numbers - you may go through 10 new people before actually meeting up with one. You just have to keep working at it.
I think mixi has actually gotten worse (not that it was ever great), they've gotten super-strict with their rules regarding sexual related content. I try not to get too explicit with my diary entries but they get censored anyway, and I had one account completely banned. A lot of ero communities have also gotten the axe. I've been looking for a better online alternative but so far I haven't had any luck finding one.
Chocha Monger
12-30-09, 21:31
Be careful about screwing coy Japanese girls. You don't want to end up having to explain a situation like this to the police.
http://www.spike.com/video/ichiboned/3128435
Tokyo Nampa King
01-19-10, 08:27
Man so I was chilling in Hub last night having my nightly after work cocktail when I noticed this BLAZING hottie by herself in the back smoking. So I observe for a bit to make sure she was alone and I walk over and introduce myself.
We flirted for a while, exchanging emails when she mentioned she is married holding up her wedding ring hand. I smiled and told her I am too.. lol and pulled out my wallet to show her my wedding wing hidden inside my wallet.
With some joking around I told her I had to take off to go home to the wifey and asked her to walk out with me. So we went out the back door together. Halfway up the stairs I grabbed her arm and pulled her in for a make out session. Man this girl was hot to trot (Japanese hubby is obviously not fucking this fox). She ended up giving me a blow job (no finish) in the hallway before some gaijin decided they would exit the same way we did. We stopped.. but here is the good news my fellow nampa fans.
We are meeting on Monday next week to go to a love hotel in Shibuya (Monday is apparently her day off). I will be posting up lots of pics after that session.
To give you a description. About 5'8 slim, long legs. Round ass to die for. medium titties (not sure as I didnt get a view, but through the shirt felt nice). 28 years old. Long black flowing hair. All around fox.
My best pick up in months. I am dying to fuck her and Ill share the pics when I do.
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We are meeting on Monday next week to go to a love hotel in Shibuya (Monday is apparently her day off). I will be posting up lots of pics after that session.
What are you doing to make sure she stays engaged until then?
Nice work Tokyo Nampa King. Can't wait to see the pics.
Have you ever thought about creating an online blog to chronicle your exploits, along with pics from previous successful nampa?
Man so I was chilling in Hub last night having my nightly after work cocktail when I noticed this BLAZING hottie by herself in the back smoking. So I observe for a bit to make sure she was alone and I walk over and introduce myself.
We flirted for a while, exchanging emails when she mentioned she is married holding up her wedding ring hand. I smiled and told her I am too.. lol and pulled out my wallet to show her my wedding wing hidden inside my wallet.
With some joking around I told her I had to take off to go home to the wifey and asked her to walk out with me. So we went out the back door together. Halfway up the stairs I grabbed her arm and pulled her in for a make out session. Man this girl was hot to trot (Japanese hubby is obviously not fucking this fox). She ended up giving me a blow job (no finish) in the hallway before some gaijin decided they would exit the same way we did. We stopped.. but here is the good news my fellow nampa fans.
We are meeting on Monday next week to go to a love hotel in Shibuya (Monday is apparently her day off). I will be posting up lots of pics after that session.
To give you a description. About 5'8 slim, long legs. Round ass to die for. medium titties (not sure as I didnt get a view, but through the shirt felt nice). 28 years old. Long black flowing hair. All around fox.
My best pick up in months. I am dying to fuck her and Ill share the pics when I do.
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What's up everyone.
Been a lurker for a while now but just wanted to say how insightful everyone's advice and stories are.
I am doing what I can to remember everyone's words of wisdom and put them to good use.
Thank you everyone for your posts as it has greatly changed my outlook on my first time to japan. I am now strongly considering Nampa as opposed to P4P. I have been reading this forum a lot and while I have absorbed a lot still need to ask for a few pointers.
I will be in Tokyo for at most 4 days on business. I would like to connect with some J girls before I get there are there any tips on sites both free and subscription and profile pointers?
I have read that it is customary to exchange contact info through business cards but from what I have read its not a good idea to give out actually business cards to J girls who your are Nampa targets (please explain)?
I don't know any Japanese most who have had luck speak at least basic is this a problem and what are the most useful resources in this regard?
How realistic is it to expect as a first timer in Tokyo (let alone Japan) to have success in a 4 days period especially since the days and possibly some nights will be taken up mostly by business?
Where is the best place to start?
Gaijin Otoko
02-07-10, 05:49
Thank you everyone for your posts as it has greatly changed my outlook on my first time to japan. I am now strongly considering Nampa as opposed to P4P. I have been reading this forum a lot and while I have absorbed a lot still need to ask for a few pointers.
I have read that it is customary to exchange contact info through business cards but from what I have read its not a good idea to give out actually business cards to J girls who your are Nampa targets (please explain)?
I don't know any Japanese most who have had luck speak at least basic is this a problem and what are the most useful resources in this regard?
How realistic is it to expect as a first timer in Tokyo (let alone Japan) to have success in a 4 days period especially since the days and possibly some nights will be taken up mostly by business?
Where is the best place to start?
Business cards are for business. Don't give them to anyone you wouldn't want to call you at your place of business. I've never heard of anyone doing what you seem to be suggesting, but I have heard of people using business cards that are not their own to throw chicks off their trail.
Language is not a necessity. It opens up a lot more possibilities, but the main keys to success are persistence and a positive attitude. If you don't connect with your first target, move on quickly to the next.
I know guys who get off the plane and screw hot chicks they nampa that night. I also know a few guys who have been in Japan for a few years and are still waiting for success. Both groups are very small. Without knowing your style, your looks, or your personality, it's impossible to even begin to guess how long it would take you to be successful. Anybody who tries is being dishonest. I will say that asking these types of questions to an internet board like this does not seem to be an auspicious start, but then again, I don't know anything about you. Are you able to pick up women in your home country or other places easily? If so, then you probably can be successful. If you are not, then coming to Japan is unlikely to turn you into James Bond overnight. Japanese women are and can afford to be picky. It's not like some countries where women will sleep with a foreigner just as a hope for a meal ticket or escape. Japan is quite wealthy by world standards, and it has a long history and culture, of which the Japanese are rather proud. In the end it is up to you.
I would say that the best place to start is to try starting up a e-mail relationship before you get there. Your chances of getting laid increase greatly if you have already laid the groundwork before you get off the plane. There are a lot of avenues in which to do this. Search the forum for more information. Also, if I recall from your previous e-mail you are black, so you might want to try some of the places where you would expect women who would have that fetish to gather. Gas Panic certainly seems to have a lot of that going on. Jamaican Dancehall was a craze a few years ago, and still seems to be popular. Try finding venues having Dancehall parties. Finally, I'm probably dating myself terribly, but I remember there being a Soul Train Cafe in Hamamatsucho, and I think it is still running. It used to be a place where Japanese women who wanted to make it with black guys hung out. Haven't been there in years, though. You might want to check out the club called "Harlem" located in Shibuya, as well as Club Jamaica in Nishi-Azabu.
Good luck and good hunting!
Business cards are for business. Don't give them to anyone you wouldn't want to call you at your place of business. I've never heard of anyone doing what you seem to be suggesting, but I have heard of people using business cards that are not their own to throw chicks off their trail.
Language is not a necessity. It opens up a lot more possibilities, but the main keys to success are persistence and a positive attitude. If you don't connect with your first target, move on quickly to the next.
I know guys who get off the plane and screw hot chicks they nampa that night. I also know a few guys who have been in Japan for a few years and are still waiting for success. Both groups are very small. Without knowing your style, your looks, or your personality, it's impossible to even begin to guess how long it would take you to be successful. Anybody who tries is being dishonest. I will say that asking these types of questions to an internet board like this does not seem to be an auspicious start, but then again, I don't know anything about you. Are you able to pick up women in your home country or other places easily? If so, then you probably can be successful. If you are not, then coming to Japan is unlikely to turn you into James Bond overnight. Japanese women are and can afford to be picky. It's not like some countries where women will sleep with a foreigner just as a hope for a meal ticket or escape. Japan is quite wealthy by world standards, and it has a long history and culture, of which the Japanese are rather proud. In the end it is up to you.
I would say that the best place to start is to try starting up a e-mail relationship before you get there. Your chances of getting laid increase greatly if you have already laid the groundwork before you get off the plane. There are a lot of avenues in which to do this. Search the forum for more information. Also, if I recall from your previous e-mail you are black, so you might want to try some of the places where you would expect women who would have that fetish to gather. Gas Panic certainly seems to have a lot of that going on. Jamaican Dancehall was a craze a few years ago, and still seems to be popular. Try finding venues having Dancehall parties. Finally, I'm probably dating myself terribly, but I remember there being a Soul Train Cafe in Hamamatsucho, and I think it is still running. It used to be a place where Japanese women who wanted to make it with black guys hung out. Haven't been there in years, though. You might want to check out the club called "Harlem" located in Shibuya, as well as Club Jamaica in Nishi-Azabu.
Good luck and good hunting!This helps a lot. I relation to my "game" it has not been hard for me to pick-up women here (Zimbabwe) and found that my "style" was based more on me working outside of stereotypes (such as speaking good English, having good manners and demonstrating some world knowledge as well as being dressed more business casual than hip hop). I am not sure if this will work well inside some of the club scene described but a reliable back-up has been that apparently I dance very well (most of the women I have picked-up had stated this as a pleasant surprise).
It works differently when I am in states where ironically most of my luck has been with strippers or milfs but not girls within the 20-25 range (I learnt with strippers that it is because I don't judge them for what they do and I am good with my hands). Older women appreciate manners a lot more.
Also don't be embarrassed to date yourself as elders are highly valued in my culture (Shona) and it is always a good idea to take their counsel.
Thanks again and I will post a report whether I fly or fall.
Business cards are for business. Don't give them to anyone you wouldn't want to call you at your place of business. I've never heard of anyone doing what you seem to be suggesting, but I have heard of people using business cards that are not their own to throw chicks off their trail.
Language is not a necessity. It opens up a lot more possibilities, but the main keys to success are persistence and a positive attitude. If you don't connect with your first target, move on quickly to the next.
I know guys who get off the plane and screw hot chicks they nampa that night. I also know a few guys who have been in Japan for a few years and are still waiting for success. Both groups are very small. Without knowing your style, your looks, or your personality, it's impossible to even begin to guess how long it would take you to be successful. Anybody who tries is being dishonest. I will say that asking these types of questions to an internet board like this does not seem to be an auspicious start, but then again, I don't know anything about you. Are you able to pick up women in your home country or other places easily? If so, then you probably can be successful. If you are not, then coming to Japan is unlikely to turn you into James Bond overnight. Japanese women are and can afford to be picky. It's not like some countries where women will sleep with a foreigner just as a hope for a meal ticket or escape. Japan is quite wealthy by world standards, and it has a long history and culture, of which the Japanese are rather proud. In the end it is up to you.
I would say that the best place to start is to try starting up a e-mail relationship before you get there. Your chances of getting laid increase greatly if you have already laid the groundwork before you get off the plane. There are a lot of avenues in which to do this. Search the forum for more information. Also, if I recall from your previous e-mail you are black, so you might want to try some of the places where you would expect women who would have that fetish to gather. Gas Panic certainly seems to have a lot of that going on. Jamaican Dancehall was a craze a few years ago, and still seems to be popular. Try finding venues having Dancehall parties. Finally, I'm probably dating myself terribly, but I remember there being a Soul Train Cafe in Hamamatsucho, and I think it is still running. It used to be a place where Japanese women who wanted to make it with black guys hung out. Haven't been there in years, though. You might want to check out the club called "Harlem" located in Shibuya, as well as Club Jamaica in Nishi-Azabu.
Good luck and good hunting!I have been fortunate enough to discover part of my game. I am polite, can speak good english and have good manners. It has served me pretty well here in Zim but only seems effective with strippers and milfs in the USA. My dress also is closer to business casual than regular hip hop regalia. Unfortunately since the primary purpose will be business I won't be able to say I will find something more casual. I assume everything (signs and such) will be in Japanese.
So, is it easy to find your way around using public transport?
Domo arigato
I have been fortunate enough to discover part of my game. I am polite, can speak good english and have good manners. It has served me pretty well here in Zim but only seems effective with strippers and milfs in the USA. My dress also is closer to business casual than regular hip hop regalia. Unfortunately since the primary purpose will be business I won't be able to say I will find something more casual. I assume everything (signs and such) will be in Japanese.
So, is it easy to find your way around using public transport?
Domo arigatoPublic transport is not for the faint hearted. I got lucky and didnt end up being lost last time i used it but i did get some help from locals who were more then happy to help. If ever youre really stuck usually theres a button you can press and a teller will come help you out.
Oh btw if anyone will be there around May 14-26 give me a shout i will be in the tokyo area.
よろしく
AussieGaigin
02-09-10, 09:42
So, is it easy to find your way around using public transport?
Domo arigato
Getting around on trains/metros/subways is straightforward and there is plenty of information available.
Using buses might be another matter if you can't read Japanese.
Gaijin Otoko
02-11-10, 04:45
So, is it easy to find your way around using public transport?
Domo arigatoIf something is on the Yamanote-line, then it's a piece of cake. After that, it quickly gets somewhat complicated. There are two different subway companies, and the maps of subway lines are used as modern art by many. Most places have subway station names in English and Japanese, though, and the electronic ticket machines nearly all have English menus. It's a lot easier than when I arrived a long time ago.
It seems for example that doing eye contact, which is good in the rest of the world, is not good at all in Japan.
With all the Nampa experts on this thread, it would be nice if some of them can post some to do / no to do with Japanese girls to help first comers to avoid the biggest mistakes.
"faint heart never won fair maiden. " if she comes to your house alone and the suggesting you get drunk on top of it sounds to me like not only is she interested, she's begging for it. you said no hugs, kisses or intimate touching. are you waiting for her to initiate it? because if you do, you will be waiting forever. there is a small percentage of japanese women who are very bold and forward, but they are a tiny minority. most japanese women expect the man to take a risk and go for it. to be completely honest though, i think this might also be your last chance, because it sounds to me like she is going "all in. " if you don't make your move here, you'll never get to.
the real challenge for western men with japanese women is reading the signals. most japanese women come across as extremely passive, even disinterested. where it really gets tricky is that some japanese women will feign resistance to your advances, just so you won't think she's easy. the general rule of thumb is that you can mostly ignore what she says, and go on the basis of her actions. as someone else on this forum said, she'll let you know if she's not interested. if she tries to get up and/or leave, then let her. otherwise, press on. in america, you might be accused of 'date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). " in japan, it's just the rules of the game. the general rule of thumb is that if a woman consents to being alone with you, she is interested. she would never be alone with a japanese man, especially at his house, unless she wanted to get it on with him.
it sounds to me like she is giving you not just a green light, but a green spotlight. buck up your courage, throw away 150 years of western victorian/feminist bullshit, and go for it. and let us know how it turns out. good luck!i disagree the signals are difficult. if she goes to your house, it's guaranteed she wants some (or she's americanized). if she responds to you at nampa, she likes you. she doesn't expect you to buy her a drink, so if she accepts your offer, she probably likes you. only once have i been asked by a japanese to buy her a drink and she was an exchange student in the usa on break.
in the usa it's odd: women go to your room all the time for non-sexual reasons. usa women also demand initiation and they may or may not be playing hard to get.
Send me a message. You blocked your messaging function.
Heheh, we've obviously dated a very different kind of J-girl abroad. The ones I've dated were insanely sexual. Hell, most of them hit on me rather than the other way around.. (by "hit on me" I mean we became "friends" through a mutual friend, language exchange site, or other. Until THEY initiated a kiss. Happened with 3 out of 5 J-girls)
Less competition? Maybe in 2004. Right now there are so many foreigners here that whenever I go to a club half the guys there are foreigner. The girls at clubs (at least the regulars) have already learned that "foreigners are players". Not to mention younger Japanese guys (early 20's) these days are a lot more direct and "hands-on" than foreigners. One of the more memorable events lately was seeing a couple of Japanese guys go in very energetic and over the top, start dancing with a couple of very hot girls, and within a minute started making out with them.
[QUOTE=Barronz8006]This brings me to another point, upon my return to Japan in 07 for a few months, I noticed a marked change of attention from J-girls, then my first year stint in 04. I was only a few years older, still in good shape, but I lost some of my boyish charm. Med school has that affect on oneself. I still hooked up, but I got stood up a couple of times and a lot of blow offs. [/bquote]That's the thing. I think a lot has changed in the past few years. I was here 3 years ago and it was MUCH easier. The foreigner card definitely helped back then. Now however there are so many foreigners around, and in general foreigners' image has taken a nose dive due to various factors. That it really doesn't help you as far as I can tell. Only with girls who are specifically LOOKING for foreigners. And some of those you'd want to avoid. (if you've been to Roppongi you know what I'm talking about..
You'll still be able to get average girls. But that's because they are neglected/ignored by Japanese guys. What you might consider an 8 as a foreigner would most likely be considered a 5 to a Japanese guy. On the upside however it works both ways. You could be considered a 5 by American girls, but an 8 by Japanese..
Exactly.
I've only dated 5 J-girls so it's not like I have too much experience, but in general the common theme was we met through some sort of language exchange setting (site or meetup). World friends for example. In general most J-girls who are looking for "language exchange" are in fact looking for a boyfriend. This is a good thing because it makes things easier. But it's also bad because the type of girl who needs a website to meet guys typically has a "flaw" that prevents her from meeting them otherwise. Examples:
Girl 1: Dumped by her fiance. We didn't have anything in common but I think she was just happy to jump on the first guy that came along.
Girl 2: Great personality, but ugly.
Girl 3: Spontaneously made out with me despite having a boyfriend. She now has a different boyfriend. And still makes out with me randomly. Girls suck.
Girl 4: Very sweet and VERY good looking. But she's literally scared of people. Every attempt I've made to get her to hang out with my friends failed. It's a shame too. She would've been a keeper if she was more social.
Girl 5: Had absolutely nothing wrong with her. But then again I met her at a party through a mutual friend and NOT through a language exchange setting.
Out of curiosity. How old are you now? I might be up for some nanpa'ing but it depends on what and where. My "target market" is in the 20-30 range. (I'm 30 myself)
Thanks for the heads up ozboy. I don't live in Japan now, but visit for a week or so every once in a while. What's the cool place in Tokyo now to pick-up J-girls for poor-to-none Japanese language ability dudes?
I have to disagree with the bulk of your post, actually, mate, (or should I say "doc"?) but to each his own.
Just to throw in two points: There are plenty of smoking hot women who speak bloody perfect English in Japan. Maybe not in the water trade but a lot of these mizu shobai girls aren't that educated to begin with, sad to say. Still even in that line you can find a few who go to language schools, and I'd bet with a higher success rate than you could if looking for American chicks who speak Japanese.
Two: Japan is like any country. Go into the cities and you'll find the pretty girls easily. Not because they're for some reason more appealing than country girls (most of them are transplants from inaka anyway) but because you just have more people so the ratio is better. Walk through Osaka and you'll see quite a few 8s and over. You can't miss 'em.
Still, pity about losing the boyish charm.
I concur, with this info. Even when I prompted myself to offer to pay because I earned more, I was always, sometimes forcefully rebuffed. The exception was when I nampaed an older lady off the street and we went to a LH. I didn't have the money (it was a spur of the moment nampa) and of course credit cards aren't used much here, so she did have to chip in. She was a little miffed. I've heard from j-girls, that j-men do pay here, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Don't know why it is, but most of the women I meet in Japan split the tab for everything--including love hotels--until you make the mistake and start paying for her. Even if it starts casually as "I'll get it this time, " you are screwed for life.
Sooner or later, she'll expect it 90 percent of the time on the principle that you make more money than her.
If you find one who will pay your hotel bills so that you can give her what she needs, hang on to her.
LoveShibuyaGirls
02-25-10, 23:18
Man so I was chilling in Hub last night having my nightly after work cocktail when I noticed this BLAZING hottie by herself in the back smoking. So I observe for a bit to make sure she was alone and I walk over and introduce myself.
We flirted for a while, exchanging emails when she mentioned she is married holding up her wedding ring hand. I smiled and told her I am too.. lol and pulled out my wallet to show her my wedding wing hidden inside my wallet.
With some joking around I told her I had to take off to go home to the wifey and asked her to walk out with me. So we went out the back door together. Halfway up the stairs I grabbed her arm and pulled her in for a make out session. Man this girl was hot to trot (Japanese hubby is obviously not fucking this fox). She ended up giving me a blow job (no finish) in the hallway before some gaijin decided they would exit the same way we did. We stopped.. but here is the good news my fellow nampa fans.
We are meeting on Monday next week to go to a love hotel in Shibuya (Monday is apparently her day off). I will be posting up lots of pics after that session.
To give you a description. About 5'8 slim, long legs. Round ass to die for. medium titties (not sure as I didnt get a view, but through the shirt felt nice). 28 years old. Long black flowing hair. All around fox.
My best pick up in months. I am dying to fuck her and Ill share the pics when I do.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Dude, well don't keep us in suspense.
How did it go?
Tokyo Nampa King
03-02-10, 04:45
Dude, well don't keep us in suspense.
How did it go?Unfriggen believeable. At the last minute on the monday she blew me off because she "had to work". Havent heard from her since.
If I was to guess I would say she is married/has a bf.. felt guilty about the BJ thing, or he did something sweet that made her feel guilty and she canceled.
Plenty more where that came from though, and the hallway BJ was epic.. so Im not 100% disappointed.
Evan Stoner
03-02-10, 12:29
Unfriggen believeable. At the last minute on the monday she blew me off because she "had to work". Havent heard from her since.
If I was to guess I would say she is married/has a bf.. felt guilty about the BJ thing, or he did something sweet that made her feel guilty and she canceled.
Plenty more where that came from though, and the hallway BJ was epic.. so Im not 100% disappointed.Ouch... it may be time to downgrade that nickname.
Anyway, back on the horse. The Nampa Law of Large Numbers is on our side ;-)
ES
gents, after many years of enjoying your great tales, i thought i owed you this: a wrap up of the highlights of my best/dirtiest/weirdest j-girls in 12 years to date, some names changed just in case.
1. makiko, early 30s, ex-colleague: she had a musician boyfriend in us but we played around anyway. she used to masturbate in front of me and offered telephone sex if i would be her boyfriend. she said she once videoed herself wanking. soaking wet, talks dirty, aim-to-please type. favourite expression: "will you put your finger in my vagina, please? " she's now seriously looking for a husband so i keep away.
2. yukie, very petite, lived in france 8 years, mid to late 30s, loved to dress up and pose in schoolgirl uniform and gym shorts for me, also nurse, cheerleader, stewardess, we had a full wardrobe from donky. but i drew the line when she asked me to buy her a bunny rabbit suit complete with floppy ears. bj first thing in the morning, she loves to watch porno together, good cook too. tied her to a cross in a love hotel once and she squealed for more. bit of a nutter, though, rang my doorbell 30 times once so i dumped her. did her for five years while scoring many others and she never found out.
btw, the way to get them to dress up like this is to innocently take them to a shibuya love hotel that sells these things in vending machines in each room (3, 000 yen), and sooner or later her curiosity will get the better of her and she will ask, "which one do you like? " play cool as if you don't care, and the rest is up to you. i pulled this trick a number of times, almost never fails even with the conservative types. they think it is great fun as long as you say it is your first time and you have never thought about it before.
3. yumi: petite, weird, had that slimming disease and depression but cheerful with me. she nampa'd me in shinjuku station while handing out fliers for her concert.; jazz singer/ukelele player and park cleaner(!), used to beg me to "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)" her in bed, wtf. screamer; favourite expressions: "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me, darling, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me. " "do you want to come on my face or my tits?; do you want to watch me [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)? " used to suck my fingers in the pub and make stupid cat noises. mad as a hatter, but harmless. gets drunk on one sip of beer. asked me to do sex in a shop doorway in shinjuku once, i said no thanks. one day she just vanished after six months together; i think she or one of her friends saw me coming out of a sex club in shinjuku. the only j-**** to finish with me, probably a good thing for me she did. possibly a pt or ex-pro, but always insisted on paying taxi fares, often drinks and food too.
4. best one nighter: can't remember her name, designer/artist, met her at a new year or christmas party in a bar in takodanababa, got her really drunk, hardly any english, she stripped off her kimono slowly in front of me and was sucking me off within 10 mins of getting home, as i watched the snow fall outside, very exotic. next morning i saw she had left several rohypnol on the table after presumably taking one before we went to bed, wtf. after breakfast, we went to a temple to pray and throw snowballs. last i heard she went to germany.
5. most recent: mami: late 30s, great shape, does pilates, huge tits, short; we "matched" at speed dating in february, looking for a husband, first date we got drunk and kissed goodbye. second date two weeks ago, got drunk, bought her some fancy dessert, and took her to love hotel in shibuya. bit of a starfish as she was pissed off at me for not waiting until we "knew each other better", but i got her in multiple positions and decorated her with a classic pearl necklace. missed last train, so i offered her 5, 000 yen taxi home which is better than waking up next to her. haven't heard from her since, thankfully.
6. another name forgotten. 32, tall, gorgeous big tits, pink pyjamas, goofy, nerdy, party pick up; had three months of her riding her bike to my place to bring me her home-made curry, then suck me off on the sofa and she leaves straight away. suits me. used to throw a tantrum when i fucked her and came too quick. jealous type, sensitive, crap english made it hard going so i dumped her. another kimono ****.
7. yumiko: mid-30s, short, magnificent breasts, quiet, has good job. dated until a year ago but i cheated on her so many times and she doesn't suspect a thing, then started meeting again recently. love hotels, gets very wet, cowboy back to front, expert bj, cim, used to swallow but not now, encourages me to watch porno, scrubs my back in the bath. dirty little thing but you'd never know looking at this classic ol type. favorite expression: "you are dr jeckyl and mr hyde. "
8. bitchiest: 28, miki, secretary used to work together and we had secret fling. expert bj, plays tennis, so great legs and arms, tits too. but she came over to my place unannounced on saturday lunchtime once, started sucking me off, then stormed out leaving me still standing and on the edge because i said i can't see her that night. had to finish it off myself. never seen her since.
9. miki's (above) best friend, no english, cute body, just did her one night after we said bye to miki. favourite words: "please don't tell miki. " never saw her again.
10. best bj: maki, late 20s, tall slender, goofy teeth, long curly hair, really quiet, crap english. she was my friend's gf so i took her over for a year when he left japan with his full approval. ex-nova shibuya secretary. amazing pse in my flat in broad daylight, dripping wet, on the sofa, in the shower, on the bed, on the pill. like they say, the quiet ones are often worse/better depending on your point of view. favorite expression: "you don't have to come on my stomach, please come inside me as i am on the pill and i like it. " or words to that effect.
11. cavewoman: "international party" catch. late 30s: didn't like her much, she was a bit silly. so i treated her like a ****, grabbing her hair when she bjs and ordering her to get undressed now, etc. last time in a love hotel in february, she sat on the sofa and immediately flashed her panties for me and giggled so i manhandled her a bit and gave her the full pse treatment—she loved it. very submissive. she begged me to come inside her, so i wanked off inside her mouth instead until she gagged. why cavewoman? she wrote me a dirty email once describing her hole as like the inside of a cave. like i said, a bit silly this one. she's open to do it any time i ask though, and great for those rainy sunday afternoons.
12. yukiko. another party catch. great when the lights are out or from the neck down; always asks me if she is doing it right and apologizes when i say no. she said i was the first one for ten years and next day she went to doctor with sore hole. did her a few times since, and she has loosened up somewhat. but she's ugly.
13. best weekend, went for the record three in a row: friday met japanese girl and fucked her, can't remember anything about her (maybe one of the above); saturday scored a thai maybe pt pro, got her in my bed but she was too drunk to respond. stuck my cock in her black panties and left a mess for her to clean up next morning. sent her packing with 150 yen bus fare and a hangover. bumped into her in roppongi a few weeks later and apparently no hard feelings. doubt she remembers much. sunday met chinese girl who had some swedish boyfriend, but gave me bj, multiple positions, frank dirty talk. favorite expression: "just lie there and let me know when you come. "
14. can't remember name. ebisu conversation café catch. 25, lived in uk, looking for a gaijin boyfriend. got drunk, took her home, she asked me to wank off in front of her while reading dirty mags because she had never seen it before so i obliged; she gets bored with bj easily.
15. yumiko nampa'd me on my birthday at a business cocktail party. she said she has never had an orgasm. first night she stripped off as soon as we walked in my room, but i was too drunk to do her. made up for it over next few months though, but nothing special, gets bored with bjs. nutter, bitchy, spoilt, she never even paid for a single drink or taxi or even said thanks—even on my birthday!
finally, i am presently working on a part-time ginza hostess i met ages ago and who recently contacted me again, no doubt after a failed relationship that leaves her needing a new handbag. i fully expect to get her knickers off by the end of this month.
16. keiko, 32, lovely body, tall, big firm tits, secret company tryst, anything goes, she wanted to try s&m but i was too shocked so chickened out and have regretted it ever since.
there were a few others, unremarkable or best forgotten, but these were the best.
sadly, no pictures as i had my hands full. perhaps you mongers will recognize some of these girls from the descriptions as some have done the gaijin circuit.
btw, i'm 45, tall, beer gut, not attractive to western women, smoker, own teeth and graying hair, and they like me because they think i am sensible and quiet, which attracts them more the older they get. suckers. i go to pi and thai every year and get up to all sorts of nonsense. cannot imagine ever marrying. currently, four girls want to live with me or marry me. the quiet serious style works for me, but you need a lot of patience often and i rarely make a move on the first date. sometimes i get a perverse pleasure in making them wait and pretending i don't want sex until they make the first move so they get confused or insecure and think i am a gentleman and not after "one thing. "
oh, i nearly forgot: started paying for it recently, jam jam, grimpeur. it's certainly less hassle and often cheaper, but i still prefer the feeling of scoring one for free even if she cost me more in drinks, taxis, time and dinner but i have nothing much to report on this that hasn't been done already in the appropriate threads.
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Evan Stoner
03-09-10, 15:53
a wrap up of the highlights of my best/dirtiest/weirdest J-girls in 12 years to dateGreat post Sim45. You've inspired me to consider doing something similar with my own experiences... one of these days. Anyway, thanks. V. entertaining!
ES
Sim45 - Great report! I laughed at this one, I'm sure many people have been in this situation...
Did her a few times since, and she has loosened up somewhat. But she's ugly.
that was your first report!
damn. you like to make an entrance!
you naughty ****. x
gents, after many years of enjoying your great tales, i thought i owed you this: a wrap up of the highlights of my best/dirtiest/weirdest j-girls in 12 years to date, some names changed just in case.
1. makiko, early 30s, ex-colleague: she had a musician boyfriend in us but we played around anyway. she used to masturbate in front of me and offered telephone sex if i would be her boyfriend. she said she once videoed herself wanking. soaking wet, talks dirty, aim-to-please type. favourite expression: "will you put your finger in my vagina, please? " she's now seriously looking for a husband so i keep away.
2. yukie, very petite, lived in france 8 years, mid to late 30s, loved to dress up and pose in schoolgirl uniform and gym shorts for me, also nurse, cheerleader, stewardess, we had a full wardrobe from donky. but i drew the line when she asked me to buy her a bunny rabbit suit complete with floppy ears. bj first thing in the morning, she loves to watch porno together, good cook too. tied her to a cross in a love hotel once and she squealed for more. bit of a nutter, though, rang my doorbell 30 times once so i dumped her. did her for five years while scoring many others and she never found out.
btw, the way to get them to dress up like this is to innocently take them to a shibuya love hotel that sells these things in vending machines in each room (3, 000 yen), and sooner or later her curiosity will get the better of her and she will ask, "which one do you like? " play cool as if you don't care, and the rest is up to you. i pulled this trick a number of times, almost never fails even with the conservative types. they think it is great fun as long as you say it is your first time and you have never thought about it before.
3. yumi: petite, weird, had that slimming disease and depression but cheerful with me. she nampa'd me in shinjuku station while handing out fliers for her concert.; jazz singer/ukelele player and park cleaner(!), used to beg me to "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)" her in bed, wtf. screamer; favourite expressions: "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me, darling, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me. " "do you want to come on my face or my tits?; do you want to watch me [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)? " used to suck my fingers in the pub and make stupid cat noises. mad as a hatter, but harmless. gets drunk on one sip of beer. asked me to do sex in a shop doorway in shinjuku once, i said no thanks. one day she just vanished after six months together; i think she or one of her friends saw me coming out of a sex club in shinjuku. the only j-**** to finish with me, probably a good thing for me she did. possibly a pt or ex-pro, but always insisted on paying taxi fares, often drinks and food too.
4. best one nighter: can't remember her name, designer/artist, met her at a new year or christmas party in a bar in takodanababa, got her really drunk, hardly any english, she stripped off her kimono slowly in front of me and was sucking me off within 10 mins of getting home, as i watched the snow fall outside, very exotic. next morning i saw she had left several rohypnol on the table after presumably taking one before we went to bed, wtf. after breakfast, we went to a temple to pray and throw snowballs. last i heard she went to germany.
5. most recent: mami: late 30s, great shape, does pilates, huge tits, short; we "matched" at speed dating in february, looking for a husband, first date we got drunk and kissed goodbye. second date two weeks ago, got drunk, bought her some fancy dessert, and took her to love hotel in shibuya. bit of a starfish as she was pissed off at me for not waiting until we "knew each other better", but i got her in multiple positions and decorated her with a classic pearl necklace. missed last train, so i offered her 5, 000 yen taxi home which is better than waking up next to her. haven't heard from her since, thankfully.
6. another name forgotten. 32, tall, gorgeous big tits, pink pyjamas, goofy, nerdy, party pick up; had three months of her riding her bike to my place to bring me her home-made curry, then suck me off on the sofa and she leaves straight away. suits me. used to throw a tantrum when i fucked her and came too quick. jealous type, sensitive, crap english made it hard going so i dumped her. another kimono ****.
7. yumiko: mid-30s, short, magnificent breasts, quiet, has good job. dated until a year ago but i cheated on her so many times and she doesn't suspect a thing, then started meeting again recently. love hotels, gets very wet, cowboy back to front, expert bj, cim, used to swallow but not now, encourages me to watch porno, scrubs my back in the bath. dirty little thing but you'd never know looking at this classic ol type. favorite expression: "you are dr jeckyl and mr hyde. "
8. bitchiest: 28, miki, secretary used to work together and we had secret fling. expert bj, plays tennis, so great legs and arms, tits too. but she came over to my place unannounced on saturday lunchtime once, started sucking me off, then stormed out leaving me still standing and on the edge because i said i can't see her that night. had to finish it off myself. never seen her since.
9. miki's (above) best friend, no english, cute body, just did her one night after we said bye to miki. favourite words: "please don't tell miki. " never saw her again.
10. best bj: maki, late 20s, tall slender, goofy teeth, long curly hair, really quiet, crap english. she was my friend's gf so i took her over for a year when he left japan with his full approval. ex-nova shibuya secretary. amazing pse in my flat in broad daylight, dripping wet, on the sofa, in the shower, on the bed, on the pill. like they say, the quiet ones are often worse/better depending on your point of view. favorite expression: "you don't have to come on my stomach, please come inside me as i am on the pill and i like it. " or words to that effect.
11. cavewoman: "international party" catch. late 30s: didn't like her much, she was a bit silly. so i treated her like a ****, grabbing her hair when she bjs and ordering her to get undressed now, etc. last time in a love hotel in february, she sat on the sofa and immediately flashed her panties for me and giggled so i manhandled her a bit and gave her the full pse treatment—she loved it. very submissive. she begged me to come inside her, so i wanked off inside her mouth instead until she gagged. why cavewoman? she wrote me a dirty email once describing her hole as like the inside of a cave. like i said, a bit silly this one. she's open to do it any time i ask though, and great for those rainy sunday afternoons.
12. yukiko. another party catch. great when the lights are out or from the neck down; always asks me if she is doing it right and apologizes when i say no. she said i was the first one for ten years and next day she went to doctor with sore hole. did her a few times since, and she has loosened up somewhat. but she's ugly.
13. best weekend, went for the record three in a row: friday met japanese girl and fucked her, can't remember anything about her (maybe one of the above); saturday scored a thai maybe pt pro, got her in my bed but she was too drunk to respond. stuck my cock in her black panties and left a mess for her to clean up next morning. sent her packing with 150 yen bus fare and a hangover. bumped into her in roppongi a few weeks later and apparently no hard feelings. doubt she remembers much. sunday met chinese girl who had some swedish boyfriend, but gave me bj, multiple positions, frank dirty talk. favorite expression: "just lie there and let me know when you come. "
14. can't remember name. ebisu conversation café catch. 25, lived in uk, looking for a gaijin boyfriend. got drunk, took her home, she asked me to wank off in front of her while reading dirty mags because she had never seen it before so i obliged; she gets bored with bj easily.
15. yumiko nampa'd me on my birthday at a business cocktail party. she said she has never had an orgasm. first night she stripped off as soon as we walked in my room, but i was too drunk to do her. made up for it over next few months though, but nothing special, gets bored with bjs. nutter, bitchy, spoilt, she never even paid for a single drink or taxi or even said thanks—even on my birthday!
finally, i am presently working on a part-time ginza hostess i met ages ago and who recently contacted me again, no doubt after a failed relationship that leaves her needing a new handbag. i fully expect to get her knickers off by the end of this month.
16. keiko, 32, lovely body, tall, big firm tits, secret company tryst, anything goes, she wanted to try s&m but i was too shocked so chickened out and have regretted it ever since.
there were a few others, unremarkable or best forgotten, but these were the best.
sadly, no pictures as i had my hands full. perhaps you mongers will recognize some of these girls from the descriptions as some have done the gaijin circuit.
btw, i'm 45, tall, beer gut, not attractive to western women, smoker, own teeth and graying hair, and they like me because they think i am sensible and quiet, which attracts them more the older they get. suckers. i go to pi and thai every year and get up to all sorts of nonsense. cannot imagine ever marrying. currently, four girls want to live with me or marry me. the quiet serious style works for me, but you need a lot of patience often and i rarely make a move on the first date. sometimes i get a perverse pleasure in making them wait and pretending i don't want sex until they make the first move so they get confused or insecure and think i am a gentleman and not after "one thing. "
oh, i nearly forgot: started paying for it recently, jam jam, grimpeur. it's certainly less hassle and often cheaper, but i still prefer the feeling of scoring one for free even if she cost me more in drinks, taxis, time and dinner but i have nothing much to report on this that hasn't been done already in the appropriate threads.
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Cricket Lighter
03-20-10, 07:49
Well at least you're lucky to have one and scored. I'm not getting any reply myself. Maybe time will tell.
The only question is: how exactly do you get past that "thank you for adding me" stage? I tried to do a couple of friendly message exchanges before eventually asking if they'd be interested in meeting up.
I don't agree. Eye contact works for me with Japanese girls. Yesterday in Paris a Japanese girl sat in front of me i looked at her, she looked at me, smiled, next stop i had her phone number. And it's not the first time.
It seems for example that doing eye contact, which is good in the rest of the world, is not good at all in Japan.
With all the Nampa experts on this thread, it would be nice if some of them can post some to do / no to do with Japanese girls to help first comers to avoid the biggest mistakes.
I don't agree. Eye contact works for me with Japanese girls. Yesterday in Paris a Japanese girl sat in front of me i looked at her, she looked at me, smiled, next stop i had her phone number. And it's not the first time.
Please let us know abut the follow up of this Paris encounter:)
Azure Knight
03-24-10, 18:25
I don't know if this is common knowledge, or has been written about before, but its something I've been dealing with recently, so I just thought I'd post up my experiences. Always good for the new members, right?
A while back, Moscow Man wrote the following - "Now, I have read on this very board that you should not give J-Chicks the option of going to a "Love Hotel." You should just lead the way and they will follow. That is not really in my nature. Not my style so to speak."
I am also in this camp. Picking up girls in clubs and bars - the LH is the obvious next step. If you have been trading phone calls and emails and there have been heavy sexual flirtations, that's also a lock. But what about a girl who've been on a few dates with, but have yet to have any real physical contact? Feels like too much of a jump to go from the restaurant where you were having dinner straight to a LH.
True story - I once dated a girl for several months - we got along great and everything, but we were never in a position to be alone together, so no physical contact. I finally got her in a secluded place, and it didn't take long for her to jump on me. I tried to get her to a LH that night but she was resistant. So the next time we met, we had dinner and afterwards I tried to lead her to a LH. Again, she wasn't having it. I had to offer her a massage, completely free of any sexual intent before she reluctantly agreed to go to the LH. Once there, of course I banged her and she wanted it, but getting her to that point was a pain in the ass.
But that's where we want to be, so the question is - how do you make this jump?
Simple answer - you need a transition point. Somewhere not as obvious as a love hotel, but lets you be alone or somewhat isolated with her, so you can up the physical intimacy. This isn't public sex - if you can get her to the point of kissing with some light fondling, now you can lead her to the LH with little to no awkwardness or objections. We just need somewhere in between the cafe/restaurant and the love hotel.
Some suggestions...
Karaoke. You get a whole room all to yourselves with pretty much no intrusions unless you specifically ask for one. Probably the best option. I hate karaoke, and your date might too, but who said you have to sing? Just get her to the room, and dragging her to the karaoke joint will probably be easier than dragging her to the LH cold. Pound out a few songs, work your way in, then start upping the physical contact. The disadvantage of karaoke is that these places fill up fast on the weekends. Try to beat or avoid the crowd by going early, or scoping out places that aren't as popular beforehand.
Internet cafe. Noise levels are non-existant so conversation will be difficult (this can work for you though, as you'll have to whisper and get close to each other!), and she may wonder why you are bringing her here anyway. But you get a sectioned-off space with low lighting and pair seating. Just make up some excuse as to why you're bringing her (something you want to show her on a PC?) and she'll be game. Japanese girls know what's up, they'll play along if you give them the chance to. Like karaoke, it gets crowded on the weekends. Also, a lot of net cafes require you to register with your name and ID if its your first time - could be bad if you are using a fake name. And, if your date isn't carrying ID the plan fails. You can try registering beforehand to save some trouble. Not nearly as good as the karaoke option, but its an option nonetheless.
Restaurants with private seating. Some izakaya have seats that are closed off by walls and doors, essentially giving you your own private space. If you can find one of these, you can take her here for dinner and kill two birds with one stone. Even with the private seating, girls tend to be more reserved in a restaurant than they would at karaoke, but at least you can get things started. Aside from restaurants or izakaya, there may be a bar cafe or something with low lighting and secluded seating.
Scenic spots/isolated areas outdoors. See if you can find in your nampa stomping grounds a spot that has a nice view or something but doesn't get a lot (or any) foot traffic. Even better if this spot happens to be not too far from the LH district. This plan loses to bad weather and pretty much the entire winter season though.
Vehicles are gold, but this depends on your or your date having a car, and driving it to the date.
Last but not least, a regular hotel room. LH is kind of obvious - there's little other reason to go other than to get down, but regular hotels don't have that ideology behind them. You can lure her back by saying there's something you want to show/give her back in your room. You will need to check into the hotel before the date, and if you are local and the girl knows it, she may question why you are staying in a hotel.
So, do your homework beforehand - scope out some areas where you can potentially get her alone, or at least away from the eyes of others. Start with your dinner, take her to the transition point, score a kiss, then lead her to the love hotel. Do this well enough and you can be leaving the LH in time for the last train. Good luck fellow nampa artists!
... Simple answer - you need a transition point. Somewhere not as obvious as a love hotel, but lets you be alone or somewhat isolated with her, so you can up the physical intimacy. This isn't public sex - if you can get her to the point of kissing with some light fondling, now you can lead her to the LH with little to no awkwardness or objections. We just need somewhere in between the cafe/restaurant and the love hotel.
This is a great post! I've said before that efficiently banging a J-girl is almost entirely a matter of logistics. My theory is that J-girls will basically do what they feel like doing, when they feel like doing it so if you lead them to feel romantic or horny, they will fuck.
When I was in Osaka, I had a date routine down. It went like this. On the first date, I would take the girl to a place I know in Umeda, where you can sit right next to each other on a low couch/love seat with the food in front of you. The room is the semi dark with curtains and Indian style furnishings. You can see other people but cant really see what they are doing. The place was right near karaoke and love hotels.
During dinner, I would slowly up the touching and sexual tension and depending on how the girl was feeling, after dinner and drinks lead her to LH or karaoke after. (Not all girls like karaoke, so sometimes I would stay in the rest longer and try to advance more.) I fucked about 75% girls on the first date.
Jump forward to Tokyo, where I don't know any similar set up and often end up winging my first dates. My first date percentage is down to like 10-20%. Often it takes me 3-4 dates. Some girls just get bored and wander after the first or second date. The only difference, is that now I don't have a good logistical plan in place.
I'd be interested in trading info on good private restaurants/bars with people by PM. Anyone who dates in Umeda, PM me for info on that place.
I wish you luck, but I doubt you will ever reach those Osaka stats you mentioned.
I don't want to generalize too much, but you'll find a lot of(Tokyo) women holding their cards closely to their tiny chests. But, you'll meet plenty of Osaka ladies in Tokyo, so you shouldn't do too badly.
This is a great post! I've said before that efficiently banging a J-girl is almost entirely a matter of logistics. My theory is that J-girls will basically do what they feel like doing, when they feel like doing it so if you lead them to feel romantic or horny, they will fuck.
When I was in Osaka, I had a date routine down. It went like this. On the first date, I would take the girl to a place I know in Umeda, where you can sit right next to each other on a low couch/love seat with the food in front of you. The room is the semi dark with curtains and Indian style furnishings. You can see other people but cant really see what they are doing. The place was right near karaoke and love hotels.
During dinner, I would slowly up the touching and sexual tension and depending on how the girl was feeling, after dinner and drinks lead her to LH or karaoke after. (Not all girls like karaoke, so sometimes I would stay in the rest longer and try to advance more.) I fucked about 75% girls on the first date.
Jump forward to Tokyo, where I don't know any similar set up and often end up winging my first dates. My first date percentage is down to like 10-20%. Often it takes me 3-4 dates. Some girls just get bored and wander after the first or second date. The only difference, is that now I don't have a good logistical plan in place.
I'd be interested in trading info on good private restaurants/bars with people by PM. Anyone who dates in Umeda, PM me for info on that place.
Raider Fan34
04-22-10, 12:46
Hey guys,
I'm a long time lurker on the boards. I'm going to Tokyo for holiday for 10 days. I have booked a room in Shibuya for the first four nights. I'm 26 years old, average looking, but in good shape from doing competitive weight lifting. I don't have a lot of "game" with the American ladies, and I can be a bit passive and shy.
Any tips for locations and strategies in order to try to pick up and sex some J-girls while I'm here?
AussieGaigin
04-24-10, 07:55
Hey guys,
Any tips for locations and strategies in order to try to pick up and sex some J-girls while I'm here?
Strategy #1: RTFF
This forum is full of ideas, just about every possible angle has been covered (if you are a long time lurker, what have you been reading?)
If you feel you are too "passive and shy" for this, perhaps read the Tokyo section and p4p.
Sonnysblues
05-07-10, 02:25
Gentlemen,
I spent two blissful years in Japan in the late 90s. Multi-tasking several j-girls at once with low pressure led to much success in the mid-size inaka city where I lived. My strategy in the supercities would be a medium pressure nampa with the love hotel as the ultimate goal, fallback on a cheap capsule hotel if unsuccessful, with the option of a long distance multi-task until my next return to the big city.
Soon I'm in the biggest supercity of them all, Tokyo, for only a 22 hour layover, and in search of a new strategy. No more language skills beyond the introductory phrases. No more keitai cellphone. Limited amount of time. Outdated knowledge and orientation to the most populated city on Earth (if you add Yokohama.)
Ideally, I'd like to jump on the train at Narita, get off at one area where I can find a capsule or cheap hotel to drop my stuff, proceed on foot or short train ride to an area with nampa and a few p4p options if available, FS not necessary.
I've RTFF about twenty pages back on this thread, quite entertaining and nostalgic, but I need to tap into the expertise of this forum. Hopefully some of you can help me out.
Place to Nampa:
I gather clubs in Roppongi like "Gas Panic", "911" and "Motown" would be my best option with limited language skills and time to work. I spent a lot of time in Shibuya back in the day, but that was when I had some language skills and time to offer. What are your suggestions for specific areas and venues of Tokyo for nampa?
Place to Stay:
I know there a thousands upon thousands of places. Ideally I'd like a cheap capsule near the action because I'll have limited time and I'd rather have an experience I can't have outside of Japan rather than a typical hotel or ryokan where there is usually a curfew. They were around 3500yen in my time, what do they cost now? Any specific recommendations or suggestions on where to look?
Love hotels:
In Tokyo I've only experienced the love hotel "hill" in Shibuya. Where, if any, are the love hotels in other areas like Roppongi?
P4P options:
I realize with my gaijin skin and limited language skills there's almost zero chance, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Any ideas on where a gaijin can try his luck at an image, theme, lingerie club or any type of weird roleplay/strip club scene? What kinds of p4p is there near Roppongi?
Thanks in advance for any info. Success or not, I will gladly post a report on my experience, as I still have a love of the game and I'm so glad to have a chance to experience Japan again.
OldAsiaHand
06-05-10, 03:13
I've been doing relatively well this year with a balance of freebies and P4P during my frequent visits to Japan.
Most of the freebies have been average looking, 30-40yo with the exception of one 23yo college student also just average.
OK, so I am far from a young, handsome stud being 50+, bald and overweight with no Japanese ability. I believe that my strongest asset is my extroverted personality and sense of humor that makes them laugh and feel more comfortable.
That said, I can't help but notice all the younger, hot girls wearing hot pants, short skirts with high heels and long legs. Do I have any chance?
OAH
Gigibagigi
06-12-10, 03:27
Short answer: Mixi gives relatively slow results for what you seem to be looking for. Not everyone is on there to 'meet' people. For better results stick to Japan Cupid or World Friends.type sites..Evan Stoner,
What a bad suggestion you are giving!
Every dating site with a smiling woman in the front is clearly a scam to attract men.
Before logging in into Japan Cupid, please read this:
"I think most of those sites are a scam and use the same database. But I don't know, I've never tried them, just seen the ads. "
http://forum. Gaijinpot.com/showthread.php? 75582-Japan-Cupid
The CV News: JapanCupid.com is (almost) a scam or what?
http://crossvoyager. Wordpress.com/2009/11/18/the-cv-news-japancupid-com-is-almost-a-scam-or-what/
Make sure you don't paid for membership. It's a 100% scam. They even create fake ads if not all. Be aware of "I told you so" if you paid for meeting fake ads. If you get a responds or someone shows interest in you, their ad will be deleted or they will not return your responds. Please pass this message forward with all know fake members # they has not been deleted yet. Here's a few I know are fake from experience # 500487, 506143, 501054, 429171, 497574, 496687, 480433, 505584, 503565, 321012, 504770, 465889, 496823, 499333, 166690, 304226, 162468, 500344, 497252, 471362, 506764, 506356, 505574, 495600, 329045, 501435,
http://www.datecomments.com/reviews/japancupid.com/
Cricket Lighter
06-23-10, 16:25
Had my 1st nampa and man I tell you the info provided in this thread is really helpful, provided you're willing to test and mixed & match the technique shared here.
Met the girl last Sunday during an encounter with my Japanese friends over wc live at a restaurant. After some talking and the moment it feels comfortable I straight away asked her if we can meet again in near future for drinks or maybe dinner.
So last night we went out just the two of us for dinner, and then continue with movie (with the the fact that I know she's staying an hour journey by train I recommend her show at 10.30pm) so that I can test the guard against me. She seems ok with light touch and respond to my hand quite well. After movie, I suggested we went back to my place for drinks since she did mentioned she's going to take taxi home. We had few glass of wines and I started to kiss her but when ever my lips try to touch hers she will say no.
Well but if you RTFF you will find that if the girls says no it means no, but this time I made her change from no no no to yeah yeah yeah although it took me nearly 30 minutes to make her comfortable with me.
In the end sex was superb, she taste really nice, looks lovely in my tshirt and took the train around 9.00am home.
Looking forward to be with her again in near future.
Evan Stoner
06-24-10, 10:15
I generally am patient with newbies but don't easily suffer fools. You clearly have an axe to grind or have your own issues. JC is a legitimate site and I've had no problem after using it for several years. Of the 26 ids you note as fake, 9 of them are not even active and 1 of them I know is not fake as I actually met the girl. So WTF? On what specific first-hand experience are you basing your claims? If you can't get laid in Tokyo the problem may be with you. There is nothing keeping members on JC from being dishonest about age, marriage status, or anything else in their profile -- but that is not the site's fault, that is the way personals generally work. Deal with it. By the way you don't seem to have read the links you yourself note below... several of them have comments supporting JC.
Evan Stoner,
What a bad suggestion you are giving!
Every dating site with a smiling woman in the front is clearly a scam to attract men.
Before logging in into Japan Cupid, please read this:
"I think most of those sites are a scam and use the same database. But I don't know, I've never tried them, just seen the ads. "
http://forum. Gaijinpot.com/showthread.php? 75582-Japan-Cupid
The CV News: JapanCupid.com is (almost) a scam or what?
http://crossvoyager. Wordpress.com/2009/11/18/the-cv-news-japancupid-com-is-almost-a-scam-or-what/
Make sure you don't paid for membership. It's a 100% scam. They even create fake ads if not all. Be aware of "I told you so" if you paid for meeting fake ads. If you get a responds or someone shows interest in you, their ad will be deleted or they will not return your responds. Please pass this message forward with all know fake members # they has not been deleted yet. Here's a few I know are fake from experience # 500487, 506143, 501054, 429171, 497574, 496687, 480433, 505584, 503565, 321012, 504770, 465889, 496823, 499333, 166690, 304226, 162468, 500344, 497252, 471362, 506764, 506356, 505574, 495600, 329045, 501435,
http://www.datecomments.com/reviews/japancupid.com/
Bijinnampa
06-25-10, 00:11
I generally am patient with newbies but don't easily suffer fools. You clearly have an axe to grind or have your own issues. JC is a legitimate site and I've had no problem after using it for several years. Of the 26 ids you note as fake, 9 of them are not even active and 1 of them I know is not fake as I actually met the girl. So WTF? On what specific first-hand experience are you basing your claims? If you can't get laid in Tokyo the problem may be with you. There is nothing keeping members on JC from being dishonest about age, marriage status, or anything else in their profile -- but that is not the site's fault, that is the way personals generally work. Deal with it. By the way you don't seem to have read the links you yourself note below... several of them have comments supporting JC.Dear GigiBigi "or similar"
I have to side with Evan Stoner on this one; some years ago I dated a bit through Japan Cupid. I guess I had 7-10 real genuine dates on this one, of which some were real hotties. None of them lied about their age. Most of the gals are interested in real LTR. There are quite a few filipina ladies with kids on the site.
What I think to watch out for on JC is girls who are out for an expensive treat and then bye bye. This is a tendency I experienced once or twice, they want you to wine and dine and do a lot of chandelier swinging (not your own), with you unless being careful would easily end up with an empty wallet.
For sure it may be some fakes as well, but I think all sites has. If you take AFF, I guess the hit-and-success ratio is only a 5 to 100 among those ads, yet from my experience you can end up with some hotties also on that site.
Bonkers Tokyo
06-25-10, 03:15
I generally am patient with newbies but don't easily suffer fools. You clearly have an axe to grind or have your own issues. JC is a legitimate site and I've had no problem after using it for several years. Of the 26 ids you note as fake, 9 of them are not even active and 1 of them I know is not fake as I actually met the girl. So WTF? On what specific first-hand experience are you basing your claims? If you can't get laid in Tokyo the problem may be with you. There is nothing keeping members on JC from being dishonest about age, marriage status, or anything else in their profile -- but that is not the site's fault, that is the way personals generally work. Deal with it. By the way you don't seem to have read the links you yourself note below... several of them have comments supporting JC.I've used JC and met a few girls. My experience is this, some girls on there have multiple profiles to try and catch guys out. A lot, lot, lot of photos are fake or were taken years before. A lot of girls (older) lie about their age (add 3-5 years). This is not a JC only issue, but with any online dating site, but guys should be aware.
Also, girls asking for private e-mails in the first mail are almost always scam artists posing as Russian women who want to get married. Another take on the Nigeria send me money scam.
Overall though, the site is no better or worse than any other online dating site. It would be better if Admins made women as well as men prove who they are with ID.
JC is 50/50 which is no different from any other dating site. Having said that there seem to be more real women on JC than AFF. I have not run into any fake photos so far. There do seem to be a lot of women looking for sugar daddies but they out themselves quickly.
I've had good success though, of the 5 women I've met I've ended up with 4 of them.
Backtobasics
06-27-10, 02:02
Overall though, the site is no better or worse than any other online dating site. It would be better if Admins made women as well as men prove who they are with ID.
I have an old (sleeping ..) profile at JC, and I was never asked for ID, and I don't see any requirement to submit it now. Am I missing something ...?
Bonkers Tokyo
06-27-10, 03:21
I have an old (sleeping ..) profile at JC, and I was never asked for ID, and I don't see any requirement to submit it now. Am I missing something ...?Look at the top, it says Verify Profile with a green check.
At least it does on mine.
Azure Knight
06-27-10, 14:46
I signed up for JC for a month...talked with several girls, but the only promising lead was a 40-something who had just been dumped by a foreigner and seemed to have major issues, so I passed. The girls there seem mostly into relationships, so that plus the fees it takes just to send emails made it not so great an avenue for me.
I haven't been on AFF in a long time. Did successfully catch one or two girls from there, but I don't know what's going on now with it, and I don't want to throw away money for something that might not be worth it.
I've been on mixi for several years now, and I've managed to successfully pull maybe 10 girls or so from there. Some looking for boyfriends, others just wanting to mess around with a foreigner. Takes quite a bit of work, but its free so I won't complain at all. mixi has gotten super-strict with their rules about sex-stuff, so that's been a pain, but still somewhat workable.
craigslist has stuff sometimes, but unless you are in Tokyo the pickings will be few and far between.
As I don't get to go out much and do RL nampa, the net is my best/only option. I gotta believe there's more out there than just this. I'll share all the mixi strats I have if desired, what I'm looking for is good/better alternatives. I know they gotta exist.
Last summer a fellow poster mentioned Tagged. I checked it out and was surprised at the features available while in regular free mode.
Since I was looking for play, I searched mainly under Tokyo and surrounding prefectures. There are very few Japanese girls and a buttload of Filipinas ranging from teens to 40's. Many are ladies working in the local drinking establishments. So beware of those that look to meet there first.
I got lots of numbers and met quite a few in my 3 months there. I didn't do any P4P for a long while after that.
Tokyo Nampa King
07-01-10, 02:34
Hi Guys,
Havent been around much recently. Been busy with the real world stuff.
Anyway I just wanted to make a comment regarding JC. One of my best friends in Tokyo met his Japanese wife from JC and they are happy as hell (but he still likes to fuck around). So the site does work..for whats thats worth.
One thing you will find there though is lots of Japanese girls who want to leave Japan (as his wife does). Either they are self-hating or dislike the culture in general. And for me anyway I cant STAND Westernized Japanese girls.
Peace
TNK
Azure Knight
07-01-10, 16:54
Would anyone who has used JC with some success mind posting up some strats? It doesn't seem like you can do much without paying. I'll pay if it's worth it.
I don't want the hassle of a "girlfriend", so up until now I have been straightforward about not wanting a serious relationship, but that might have done more harm than good.
Has anyone been on AFF lately? What's going on over there?
Would anyone who has used JC with some success mind posting up some strats? It doesn't seem like you can do much without paying. I'll pay if it's worth it.
I don't want the hassle of a "girlfriend", so up until now I have been straightforward about not wanting a serious relationship, but that might have done more harm than good.
Has anyone been on AFF lately? What's going on over there?
I've used both WF and JC with some success. (I used AFF when I was in Osaka, and met two great girls that way, but in the end I decided that it was a waste of time and dropped it.) For both of them, you won't get much action with a free account.
For my money, WF is the better deal. I've gotten more dates and lays off of it than any other site. It all comes down to how much time and energy you are willing to put into it. I've also met some girls who were just looking for a free meal, or who didn't look at all like their picture, etc. Now, I almost always plan to meet for coffee first, so I can blow them off if I want to.
One thing that I don't like about JC is that most of the girls want to chat a lot through the site, and some of them only want to chat. Chatting is not my thing, but if you have the time and the interest than this might be a better bet. Personally, I can't deal with spending a lot of time chatting with a girl and then finally meeting her and realizing I wouldn't have even bothered to talk with her if I had met her at a bar.
I used to use mixi when I was in Osaka as well and I met a number of girls and fucked a few of them. But since I've been in Tokyo, I haven't had any action on mixi at all and I've basically let it drop. If you have any suggestions, I'd appreciate it.
As another poster mentioned, you can meet Filapinas on Tagged for free. I met two Filapinas and a Vietnamese girl through Tagged. All in their early 20s. One of the Filapinas still comes over to my place every once in a while.
As for your policy about telling girls you aren't interested in a serious relationship, you might want to reconsider it. Maybe you could just rephrase it like, 'let's just start out as friends and see what happens' or 'I'm not really looking for anything specific, I just want to see how things develop.' You can usually convey through your actions and attitude that you aren't really 'boyfriend material.' If you tell them outright that you are unavailable it's kind of like saying 'no matter how well we get along, or how much you rock my world, I'm not really going to be into you' - which probably isn't true anyway, but even if it is, no one who isn't already committed elsewhere wants to hear that.
Backtobasics
07-04-10, 21:58
I've used both WF and JC with some success.
What's the deal with the WF membership options? The upgrades are pricey!
Does being a Regular member mean you can send and receive mails from other Regular members? (the site isn't exactly clear about this)
Backtobasics
07-04-10, 22:00
Has anyone been on AFF lately? What's going on over there?
I am targeting 'older' women (35 and above), and have come to the conclusion that most of them are either nuts, or want a free-everything. Not actually encountered anyone I would be happy meeting yet.
Bluefalconjp
07-05-10, 08:45
I've heard of JC and AFF, as well as HM, but what is WF?
Could anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
My wife and I are swingers and young.
Do you think we'll be able to pick up a Japanese girl for a threesome?
Any tips?
Thanks
Hey guys,
I've been an occasional poster in the Tokyo thread, but I've grown a bit dissatisfied with P4P recently. In all honesty, I'm looking for the ego boost that successful nampa would give me that even the best paid GFE can't provide. Though I occasionally consider trying my luck at someplace like Gaspanic, I figure my best option is the internet because most of the time I simply don't have the courage to start chatting up a random girl in a social situation.
I had some small success last year via Mixi, but the results didn't justify the amount of work I had to put into it (my nihongo is somewhere slightly above JLPT 4, so writing can be slow going). Tried WF two years back but had no luck there, probably in no small part because I listed my status as married. It's the truth, plus I thought it would work out all right for hooking up with young, bored housewives. Perhaps it would work out for some, but not for me.
Anyway, based on what I've seen here I'm planning on either taking another crack at WF (after editing my marital status of course) or jumping onto JC. Since I want to hit the ground running, I was hoping to get a couple of tips on how to best set up my profile to grab interest, and a good intro message to start firing out to various targets. I don't think I can offer much in return. Obviously I don't have good advice to give anyone on Nampa. But I'm more than willing to post details on any successes, if that's of interest.
Some details about me in case it's important: white guy, mid-30s (though I'm sometimes mistaken for being in my late 20s), married as I've already mentioned, average-looking and only around 173 cm but in decent shape (I've been working out regularly for the past couple of years). I live close to Tokyo, but staying out after last train isn't really an option, at least not often. I'm intending to target J-girls in the 25-35 range, though I don't have qualms about aiming younger or a bit older. Obviously I'm just looking for fun, not any kind of long-term relationship.
Thanks in advance to anyone who's willing to give advice. I can take PMs if that makes a difference. As I've said, I'll post about any successes I get.
My fiance and I are in Japan on vacation and are young and into swinging.
Any tips on finding a Japanese girl for a threesome?
My fiance and I are in Japan on vacation and are young and into swinging.
Any tips on finding a Japanese girl for a threesome?Very doubtful you'd pick one up in a bar.
Without Japanese you won't get into a Swingers Club.
Best bet is to hire a girl from AM who likes it both ways, or find a Craig's list couple who will swap.
Basketcase42
07-06-10, 04:29
Last summer a fellow poster mentioned Tagged. I checked it out and was surprised at the features available while in regular free mode.
Since I was looking for play, I searched mainly under Tokyo and surrounding prefectures. There are very few Japanese girls and a buttload of Filipinas ranging from teens to 40's. Many are ladies working in the local drinking establishments. So beware of those that look to meet there first.
I got lots of numbers and met quite a few in my 3 months there. I didn't do any P4P for a long while after that.Tagged is a GREAT place to find women!
I just came back from Japan and visited 3 gals from tagged and bopped 2 of them. Didn't really *want* to bop the 3rd one. Older and more friend material.
The first gal met me at Nagoya station and checked into the hotel with me. We had already agreed before even meeting that we would share the room. There were many tags and comments escalating to kissing and more and then 2 chat sessions and finally an agreement to meet. Anyway. The intention was to go eat and talk then play in the room but after some shy awkwardness in the room and then kissing. It got hot and heavy fast. 5 hours later, starving we finally made it to dinner. 1. 5 hours to eat and have some drinks then back to the room for 3 more hours of play. Then she wanted it again first thing in the morning starting at 8am. We barely made it out of the room by the noon checkout. Holy sh*t. She tore me up. My whole body hurts. She just kept wanting more. She was 32 and I'm an older guy. Thank god for cialis.
Met the next gal the next day and learned a lesson. Leave a day between play times.
Met the 2nd gal in the hotel lobby in Tokyo. She was very shy and hard to get to. We had dinner and nothing happened, no touching, no holding hands. Waled around and then found the Jail izakiya in Kabukicho. Went in there and had a very private cel where, after a while, I just started holding her waist and then sneaking little kisses in. She was very passive and kinda ignored everything I was doing. Finally found a sweet spot kissing her ears and ended up finger f*cking her there in the cell. LOL. Time to GO. We paid up and went to my room where she was again being shy and said "maybe I should go now". Told her "no, please stay" and started kissing her again then to the bed where she was a little magura for a bit until she finally gave in and things got fun. In the end blowing me and telling me to pop in her mouth. SCORE! Haha.
All in all a great visit to Japan and tagged is the shiznitz. A gold mine. You just need to be patient. I have a number of gals lined up for future adventures and I will *definitely* be going back to Nagoya.
Ahh so not many girls are into that sort of thing? What girl from AM would you recommend?
Very doubtful you'd pick one up in a bar.
Without Japanese you won't get into a Swingers Club.
Best bet is to hire a girl from AM who likes it both ways, or find a Craig's list couple who will swap.
Tokyo Nampa King
07-07-10, 04:06
Very doubtful you'd pick one up in a bar.
Without Japanese you won't get into a Swingers Club.
Best bet is to hire a girl from AM who likes it both ways, or find a Craig's list couple who will swap.Now Lion I want to know if you are getting kick backs from AM, or are a staff there. If so you should declare it.
For the couple: Here is some good info. There are 2 really good "happening bars" or swingers clubs in Tokyo you can go to. One is called Silk in Kabuki-cho (google it you will find it) and another called Sleeping Beauty in Shibuya. Check either of those out, they are VERY foreigner friendly, with a good crowd (especially Silk).
With the escort service he recommended you will get an overpriced ***** who probably had 5 johnsons in her that day already. Go with the happening bar bro, you wont regret it.
Azure Knight
07-07-10, 15:56
Tagged is a GREAT place to find women!
Okay sir, I'm sold.
Would you mind sharing a few strats though? Like how you found them, what kind of profile you have, etc. You don't need to go in depth, just a few pointers to get me started. I've played around with the site but I don't really know what I am doing on it yet.
Azure Knight
07-07-10, 16:02
Ahh so not many girls are into that sort of thing?
There are, the problem is just in finding them.
If you are in Tokyo, then just do as Tokyo Nampa King suggested and all will be well. If not...it'll be harder to get into a happening bar, as one of you will need to be Japanese, or at least speak Japanese fairly well.
They can be found at bars, but if you try that route I would suggest you going in solo first, working up a good atmosphere with your target, and then introduce your girlfriend in later.
Hopefully you are in Tokyo though, that makes things easier. Sometimes I feel like Osaka isn't quite as wild as it should be.
Bluefalconjp
07-08-10, 10:22
I haven't had much success with JC, and very litte with maxi. I've hooked up with maybe one or two, but as many J-girls are looking for a permanent kind of thing I had to unfortunately let them go. I've also tried AFF and HM (horny matches) but not much success there either.
I've read about WF here, but never heard of it. I'd like to try that out and see if there's any luck. If so, I'll post a report ASAP.
Thanks
Gaijin Otoko
07-14-10, 02:20
My fiance and I are in Japan on vacation and are young and into swinging.
Any tips on finding a Japanese girl for a threesome?
In addition to what's already been suggested, try Tokyo Melty Kiss (Manami), and the personals on Metropolis (Tokyo) magazine.
a place I know in Umeda, where you can sit right next to each other on a low couch/love seat with the food in front of you. The room is the semi dark with curtains and Indian style furnishings. You can see other people but cant really see what they are doing. The place was right near karaoke and love hotels.
Any idea of the name? I've never come across this place and spend a lot of time taking random nights out in Umeda.
Not in the Shoutengai or neat Toganochou?
Any idea of the name? I've never come across this place and spend a lot of time taking random nights out in Umeda.
Not in the Shoutengai or neat Toganochou?
I tried sending you a PM, but you can't receive them.
Hi guys,
I'm having some success with JC on a girl from Philippines. She's getting hotter. She says she likes me a lot, she's lauhing etc. Though still at a chat level, no camsex or the likes. What strategy do you recommend? Are they very religious or whatsoever? How much should I dare? I'll be in Japan in 2 weeks and I don't want to burn it before I arrive. Should I try to get more "intimate" or keep it cooler? Note that I'll stay only one week (I told her one month) so I must not miss the spot.
Thanks in advance
Gaijin Otoko
07-27-10, 05:28
Hi guys,
I'm having some success with JC on a girl from Philippines. She's getting hotter. She says she likes me a lot, she's lauhing etc. Though still at a chat level, no camsex or the likes. What strategy do you recommend? Are they very religious or whatsoever? How much should I dare? I'll be in Japan in 2 weeks and I don't want to burn it before I arrive. Should I try to get more "intimate" or keep it cooler? Note that I'll stay only one week (I told her one month) so I must not miss the spot.
Thanks in advance
Filipinas are very different from Japanese. It's probably the Spanish influence. For example, if you make a date with a "flip," there is a good chance she won't show up the first time because she thinks you aren't serious (or is testing to see if you are). I've never known a Japanese girl to do that. Another thing to find out for sure is if she is working in "mizu-shobai" or not. Mizu-shobai runs all the way from bar hostessing or even waitressing in certain types to establishments all the way up to full-on sex workers. If she's in Mizu-shobai, regardless of whether its innocent or not, she's likely the effective property of a yakuza. When I lived in Japan in the 90s and my coworkers took me out at night, they always told me "NEVER GIVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO A FILIPINA." The reasoning is that their handlers (usually yakuza-affiliated) will seize their passports and make them live under virtual house arrest with all the other girls. They get bored, but they had (at the time) access to a phone line. I would imagine an internet connection is highly possible today as well. So they could call out and communicate through that method with the outside world, but they could never leave their house except to go to work. Now there are a lot of Filipinas who don't work in situations like that, but there are enough that you should be concerned. It's really a sad situation for the girls, as they are often tricked into jobs like this, and their gray legal status makes it impossible for them to get much help.
Now, how long will it take for someone to start flaming me?
Filipinas are very different from Japanese. It's probably the Spanish influence. For example, if you make a date with a "flip, " there is a good chance she won't show up the first time because she thinks you aren't serious (or is testing to see if you are). I've never known a Japanese girl to do that. Another thing to find out for sure is if she is working in "mizu-shobai" or not. Mizu-shobai runs all the way from bar hostessing or even waitressing in certain types to establishments all the way up to full-on sex workers. If she's in Mizu-shobai, regardless of whether its innocent or not, she's likely the effective property of a yakuza. When I lived in Japan in the 90s and my coworkers took me out at night, they always told me "NEVER GIVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO A FILIPINA. " The reasoning is that their handlers (usually yakuza-affiliated) will seize their passports and make them live under virtual house arrest with all the other girls. They get bored, but they had (at the time) access to a phone line. I would imagine an internet connection is highly possible today as well. So they could call out and communicate through that method with the outside world, but they could never leave their house except to go to work. Now there are a lot of Filipinas who don't work in situations like that, but there are enough that you should be concerned. It's really a sad situation for the girls, as they are often tricked into jobs like this, and their gray legal status makes it impossible for them to get much help.
Now, how long will it take for someone to start flaming me?She told me she's a housemaid. Sorry for my English, but what's a date with a "flip"?
Is housemaid under the Japan Training Program?
She told me she's a housemaid. Sorry for my English, but what's a date with a "flip"?
Filipinas are very different from Japanese. When I lived in Japan in the 90s and my coworkers took me out at night, they always told me "NEVER GIVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO A FILIPINA." They get bored, but they had (at the time) access to a phone line.
LOL-this is so true. Though now it might be more of a texting habit and not as intrusive.
A buddy of mine had his Filipina GF 10 yrs ago calling him at 3-4am whenever she got off work. Drove him crazy, and he dumped her because of lack of sleep.
Gaijin Otoko
07-28-10, 02:07
She told me she's a housemaid. Sorry for my English, but what's a date with a "flip"?
A term my Filipino friend uses to refer to Filipinas. Probably tremendously rude and insensitive, but since my friend is Filipino, he can get away with using it. I, on the other hand, am most certainly a horrible racist.
I'd be suspicious of the house maid story, if she's living in Japan. The number of houses that have maids is extremely small. I'm not saying it's impossible, but the odds are stacked against it.
The Tanuki
07-28-10, 06:18
I'd be suspicious of the house maid story, if she's living in Japan. The number of houses that have maids is extremely small. I'm not saying it's impossible, but the odds are stacked against it.
I live in Shibuya, and actually there are a fair number of housemaids around here, including those from my neighbor's home, the former PM Aso. BUT, they're the ones that are too old for "The Game" and you most certainly wouldn't be hitting on them. :eek:
The Tanuki
I live in Shibuya, and actually there are a fair number of housemaids around here, including those from my neighbor's home, the former PM Aso. BUT, they're the ones that are too old for "The Game" and you most certainly wouldn't be hitting on them. :eek:
The TanukiThis is very weird.
Today I had a long webcam chat (actually, I was on cam, she said she'll buy one tomorrow). Anyway, it grew hotter and hotter, she wanted to see my dick and started to act like a very horny girl. Then she went hotter saying she wants to suck my juice and be fucked hard etc, which is fine. But then she asked me if I'm clean because. Hold on. She wants a baby from me! I asked her if she's nuts or something, but she insisted many times that she has got 2 girls (15 and 11) but now she wants a baby BOY, and she wants it from me!
I told her that it's not what I'm looking for, but in life you never know etc to avoid cooling her too much, but. Should I be worried or avoid? She told me she doesn't have much sex because very busy at work (laundry, not housemaid) and she wants me to arrange for a hotel near where she lives in Fukai so when I'll be there on Monday Aug 9 we can stay together for some time. Then her day off will be the next Friday and we can spend all night together. From the pics she sent me she's quite pretty though not super, 35 yrs, but she said her body is not super because of giving birth to 2 kids (stretch marks).
What the heck would you guys do?
Thanks
Fact Finder
07-29-10, 19:55
This is very weird.
Today I had a long webcam chat (actually, I was on cam, she said she'll buy one tomorrow). Anyway, it grew hotter and hotter, she wanted to see my dick and started to act like a very horny girl. Then she went hotter saying she wants to suck my juice and be fucked hard etc, which is fine. But then she asked me if I'm clean because. Hold on. She wants a baby from me! I asked her if she's nuts or something, but she insisted many times that she has got 2 girls (15 and 11) but now she wants a baby BOY, and she wants it from me!
I told her that it's not what I'm looking for, but in life you never know etc to avoid cooling her too much, but. Should I be worried or avoid? She told me she doesn't have much sex because very busy at work (laundry, not housemaid) and she wants me to arrange for a hotel near where she lives in Fukai so when I'll be there on Monday Aug 9 we can stay together for some time. Then her day off will be the next Friday and we can spend all night together. From the pics she sent me she's quite pretty though not super, 35 yrs, but she said her body is not super because of giving birth to 2 kids (stretch marks).
What the heck would you guys do?
ThanksSo, she says she'll buy a webcam "tomorrow" knowing you are already hooked? Tons of w4m cl ads are pure scams. I figure you are falling into a scam. Did you find her on cl?
The Tanuki
07-29-10, 23:48
This is very weird.
Today I had a long webcam chat (actually, I was on cam, she said she'll buy one tomorrow). Anyway, it grew hotter and hotter, she wanted to see my dick and started to act like a very horny girl. Then she went hotter saying she wants to suck my juice and be fucked hard etc, which is fine. But then she asked me if I'm clean because. Hold on. She wants a baby from me! I asked her if she's nuts or something, but she insisted many times that she has got 2 girls (15 and 11) but now she wants a baby BOY, and she wants it from me!
What the heck would you guys do?
Thanks
I would block her number and delete it. Forget you ever heard of her. Fuckin nut case that wants a green card and a sugar daddy to get it for her.
The Tanuki
Gaijin Otoko
07-30-10, 00:08
This is very weird.
What the heck would you guys do?
Thanks
Run, don't walk, to the nearest exit, screaming like a banshee. This woman will suck out your very soul! You may or may not choose to follow my advice, but believe me, if you don't, you will remember these words!
This is very weird.
She wants a baby from me! I asked her if she's nuts or something, but she insisted many times that she has got 2 girls (15 and 11) but now she wants a baby BOY, and she wants it from me!
Yeah, this shouldn't even be something you hand to ponder. Just stay away. Girls like these are nothing but trouble. If she gets her hooks into you, all she's going to do is leech off you. Don't even meet up with her for sex, if she's not trying to get pregnant (with or without your knowledge) she's going to do other things to latch on.
Yeah, this shouldn't even be something you hand to ponder. Just stay away. Girls like these are nothing but trouble. If she gets her hooks into you, all she's going to do is leech off you. Don't even meet up with her for sex, if she's not trying to get pregnant (with or without your knowledge) she's going to do other things to latch on.Ok guys, you managed to scare me a little! But you really think that it could be dangerous even if I take her to a hotel (not mine), take just little money with me, no ID, and have just one night stand? What could happen if I stay on alert and after that I ditch her?
Ok guys, you managed to scare me a little! But you really think that it could be dangerous even if I take her to a hotel (not mine), take just little money with me, no ID, and have just one night stand? What could happen if I stay on alert and after that I ditch her?
You don't get laid much do you?
If you like philappina girls, take a trip to the Philappines. There you can fuck lots of cute girls in there teens and 20s. There's no reason why you should be waisting your time on a 35yo with stretch marks and a body that's poped out two kids.
On the other hand, if it turns your crank, go bareback her and see if you can knock her up. Maybe you won't catch anything, and maybe she won't make your life hell afterwards.
So, she says she'll buy a webcam "tomorrow" knowing you are already hooked? Tons of w4m cl ads are pure scams. I figure you are falling into a scam. Did you find her on cl?
She's a man.
Ok guys, you managed to scare me a little! But you really think that it could be dangerous even if I take her to a hotel (not mine), take just little money with me, no ID, and have just one night stand? What could happen if I stay on alert and after that I ditch her?
You don't get laid much do you?
If you like philappina girls, take a trip to the Philappines. There you can fuck lots of cute girls in there teens and 20s. There's no reason why you should be waisting your time on a 35yo with stretch marks and a body that's poped out two kids.
On the other hand, if it turns your crank, go bareback her and see if you can knock her up. Maybe you won't catch anything, and maybe she won't make your life hell afterwards.
Ok guys, you managed to scare me a little! But you really think that it could be dangerous even if I take her to a hotel (not mine), take just little money with me, no ID, and have just one night stand? What could happen if I stay on alert and after that I ditch her?
It's not even worth it. Even if you fucked her without getting her pregnant, if things don't go her way she could throw a tantrum which could escalate until someone calls the police. I've seen girls do this before, it's not that uncommon. Also you're both gaijin so it's not like anyone would hesitate to call the cops. Don't expect her to put out without wanting some sort of insurance in return.
On top of that she's no doubt better at this game than you are. You'll probably fall for one of her tricks without realizing it. I mean, she's 35 with 2 much older kids. Just because some guy hasn't knocked her up since then doesn't mean she hasn't been doing this for a while.
Seriously, there's a reason we're telling you to just avoid her rather than just banging her and never talking to her again.
Dusty Jones
07-30-10, 20:33
Can someone Please explain this whole taged business to me? Ive seen people talk about how great they do on Tagged but I Tried it and I failed hard and run into lots of fake profiles etc etc,
Can anyone help me out with Tagged?
Please?
Gaijin Otoko
07-30-10, 22:34
Ok guys, you managed to scare me a little! But you really think that it could be dangerous even if I take her to a hotel (not mine), take just little money with me, no ID, and have just one night stand? What could happen if I stay on alert and after that I ditch her?
Are you really so desperate for it that you would risk a whole unknown world of bad shit? All the experienced folks here are telling you to get out fast, and no doubt many of us know because we've been in that situation before. Dude, seriously, everyone is telling you to get out, and you are asking "but what if?" You know the old saying, "you don't pay the girl for the sex, you pay her to leave after"? This one won't go. It's not worth it. There are plenty of free options. There are even more pay options, and on average the pay options are safer in every way than the free options. Why would anyone even think twice about this? Trust me, this girl will seriously fuck up your life if you give her the chance. You shouldn't be a little scared, you should be a LOT scared.
One other thought, if you did go through with it and meet this succubus and what EVERYONE here KNOWS will happen does happen, you'll hear what you imagine are our voices in the back of your head saying "We told you so!" I'll say it again, run, don't walk, as fast as you can, as far away as you can. There are depths of evil and craziness in some women than men can't even have a hope of a chance against. I was with a crazy woman for almost a full year, and it drove me to the point that I seriously considered taking the permanent way out just to escape the living hell that she made my life. She was not anything like normal people, but she could fake it just long enough to draw me back in. Your woman sounds just as batshit crazy as the one I barely escaped from, possibly more so. I feel very sorry for her children who will never have a chance to grow up as a normal human being, and I feel very sorry for the boys out there who will wind up falling in love with her mutant seed, and the cycle will continue on for generations. You cannot save that future generation of poor saps, but you can save yourself. She's a black widow spider; after mating, the females inject poison in the males and then suck out their guts after the poison has pre-digested them.
Fact Finder
07-31-10, 10:21
Ok guys, you managed to scare me a little! But you really think that it could be dangerous even if I take her to a hotel (not mine), take just little money with me, no ID, and have just one night stand? What could happen if I stay on alert and after that I ditch her?Sorry, but what a troll.
Basketcase42
07-31-10, 12:41
okay sir, i'm sold.
would you mind sharing a few strats though? like how you found them, what kind of profile you have, etc. you don't need to go in depth, just a few pointers to get me started. i've played around with the site but i don't really know what i am doing on it yet.i just keep a normal profile. decent number of pictures. some closeups with good smile. big smile is important. don't look mad or angry! it scares them away.
my strategy. make as many gal "friends" as i can.
send lots of tags and comments. innocent ones. nothing racy. see who responds.
buy them as pets if you can. i don't know why.
but owning them as a pet has some kind of psychological thing going on.
i don't understand it. but it does make them more receptive.
start sending tags with kisses and hugs. see who responds in kind.
send an occasional sexier more passionate comment. see how they respond.
basically, ratchet it up slowly and don't send porn. (i don't send porn even to the gals i've already banged.)
if you can get them sending you tags and comments with beds and passionate kissing you got them.
lol. i haven't met that many gals (cause getting to japan at all is difficult since i live in the us) and even so twice now. i was basically raped within 30 minutes of meeting the gal. 2 of the gals met me in my room. acted shy for a bit. then bam, next thing i know we're on the bed getting naked.
i think on these sites you just need to keep it normal and see what shakes out. i already got the 411 from a tagged woman. we'll see if anything develops more than heavy petting.
i also never send porn to anyone. i thought i was the only one.
i just keep a normal profile. decent number of pictures. some closeups with good smile. big smile is important. don't look mad or angry! it scares them away.
my strategy. make as many gal "friends" as i can.
send lots of tags and comments. innocent ones. nothing racy. see who responds.
buy them as pets if you can. i don't know why.
but owning them as a pet has some kind of psychological thing going on.
i don't understand it. but it does make them more receptive.
start sending tags with kisses and hugs. see who responds in kind.
send an occasional sexier more passionate comment. see how they respond.
basically, ratchet it up slowly and don't send porn. (i don't send porn even to the gals i've already banged.)
if you can get them sending you tags and comments with beds and passionate kissing you got them.
lol. i haven't met that many gals (cause getting to japan at all is difficult since i live in the us) and even so twice now. i was basically raped within 30 minutes of meeting the gal. 2 of the gals met me in my room. acted shy for a bit. then bam, next thing i know we're on the bed getting naked.
Are you really so desperate for it that you would risk a whole unknown world of bad shit? All the experienced folks here are telling you to get out fast, and no doubt many of us know because we've been in that situation before. Dude, seriously, everyone is telling you to get out, and you are asking "but what if? " You know the old saying, "you don't pay the girl for the sex, you pay her to leave after"? This one won't go. It's not worth it. There are plenty of free options. There are even more pay options, and on average the pay options are safer in every way than the free options. Why would anyone even think twice about this? Trust me, this girl will seriously fuck up your life if you give her the chance. You shouldn't be a little scared, you should be a LOT scared.Ok, ok I've got it! I'm not going to meet her.
But now, after a few weeks of JC I've got some more questions for you guys.
It seems that I'm able to get in touch only with Filipinas. Jap girls mostly don't reply to my messages, even though I'm being really "normal", saying Hello, or maybe that I find their profile interesting.
Anyway now I'm in touch with:
- a filipina that told me she would like to see me in Osaka at the first chat we had. Should I be worried about this too?
- a Peruana that's much more hard to get, but she'd see me on Sunday during the day. She seems quite attracted but she had some bad meetings before with 2 germans met on JC, so she's not trusting me totally.
- another Filipina from Tokyo. She's my best pick, but I'll have to go there on the weekend. She seems quite serious but very interested and she said we can go out and be my "tour guide". How should I behave once we go out? I'm going to have max. 2 nights, so should I try to make her drink (she likes the drowsy feeling) and take her to the hotel on the first night, or should I wait for the 2nd night?
Thanks in advance, you're being very helpful.
Guys,
I'd need some pointers as to what is the best approach with the japanese women?
-macho/confident as with the latinas/brasileiras?
- cocky/funny as with the north american ladies?
- gentleman as with the european ones?
Does being direct works with them better than being subtle?
I'd appreciate your feedbacks on that guys.
Thanks.
Fact Finder
08-05-10, 20:45
Guys,
I'd need some pointers as to what is the best approach with the japanese women?
-macho/confident as with the latinas/brasileiras?
- cocky/funny as with the north american ladies?
- gentleman as with the european ones?
Does being direct works with them better than being subtle?
I'd appreciate your feedbacks on that guys.
Thanks.I really don't think there is one best approach in each country/region. The kinda guys who think in terms of such stereotypes tend to be anime otaku losers who never seem to have much luck with girls. I think there are many possible approaches depending on you, the girl, your mutual compatibility, and the particular social situation.
For normal guys, getting dates in Japan is no problem especially if you speak Japanese at just a bit more than beginner level. I am no great Romeo, but I have found I can generally go from saying hi to a girl I see walking around in an approachable location, even not a nightclub, to meeting for regular dates, without ever thinking self consciously about what approach I was using.
Don't act out a role. Just be yourself. Be confident!
Gaijin Otoko
08-05-10, 23:30
Ok, ok I've got it! I'm not going to meet her.
But now, after a few weeks of JC I've got some more questions for you guys.
It seems that I'm able to get in touch only with Filipinas. Jap girls mostly don't reply to my messages, even though I'm being really "normal", saying Hello, or maybe that I find their profile interesting.
Anyway now I'm in touch with:
- a filipina that told me she would like to see me in Osaka at the first chat we had. Should I be worried about this too?
- a Peruana that's much more hard to get, but she'd see me on Sunday during the day. She seems quite attracted but she had some bad meetings before with 2 germans met on JC, so she's not trusting me totally.
- another Filipina from Tokyo. She's my best pick, but I'll have to go there on the weekend. She seems quite serious but very interested and she said we can go out and be my "tour guide". How should I behave once we go out? I'm going to have max. 2 nights, so should I try to make her drink (she likes the drowsy feeling) and take her to the hotel on the first night, or should I wait for the 2nd night?
Thanks in advance, you're being very helpful.
The reason you are talking with "flips" and other gaijin is linguistic. J-Gals have their own websites in their own language. Ever heard of Mixi? If you haven't don't worry, most of the world outside Japan hasn't either, but it's HUGE in Japan.
Nothing you have described in any of the other chicks raises a red flag for me. Meeting as many chicks as you can is healthy. As long as you are careful, bedding as many chicks as you can is healthy also. Dating is usually a long process where you "try out" a lot of women. Ask yourself before you go on the date what your objective is. If you just want to get chicks in the sack, then the "full court press" on as many women as you can run through is the recommended strategy. If you are after something more, you should take it slower, but then you also shouldn't be asking for advice on this forum.
Bijinnampa
08-06-10, 00:08
Guys,
I'd need some pointers as to what is the best approach with the japanese women?
-macho/confident as with the latinas/brasileiras?
- cocky/funny as with the north american ladies?
- gentleman as with the european ones?
Does being direct works with them better than being subtle?
I'd appreciate your feedbacks on that guys.
Thanks.In MHO. I think a combination of being gentleman (but don't empty your wallet.) as well as being macho/confident is a good pointer. The cocky/funny part may not be the best. Especially avoid too much irony unless you are really sure the language part is 100 % understood.
Some J-girls I dated thought Japanese men they met were a bit clumsy and not confident enough. Also for many girls. Who often can be good in english. Dating a westerner can be thrilling.
The J-girls I dated are as interested in sex as any other ladies, and behind a sometimes a bit shy, giggly and "50s style", they can be hot as hell.
I always ended in "kisses and C-U next time" or "where's the love hotel? " on the first or second date. Take it really gently with touching at first. Also girls don't like to show hugging and kissing in public. BUT don't forget to step up the action. And don't behave like you are at a "nihon-go class"! It is shaburi you want not shaberu
If you don't "test the waters" the girl will be happy enough with just a nice dinner. But I don't think that was your intent only.
Happy hunting.
If too late for last weekend, this might still be worthwhile for you next time. Japanese girls are smart. Not many are blind to being given drinks in hope of a score. They especially are alert for foreigners to use this ancient tactic.
My advice: Take them for a very nice dinner at which time it is very natural for them to drink wine. The cover of the dinner can be helpful to put them at ease about drinking.
Afterwards, assess your options. If she enjoyed the wine, she might consider a second place for drinks. Keep in mind it should not be she owes you anything. If she senses that demand, it may spoil everything.
You will have to man up and be ready to graciously handle rejection along the way. If so, take it as an investment. If not the first date, you have a good chance by the third.
How should I behave once we go out? I'm going to have max. 2 nights, so should I try to make her drink (she likes the drowsy feeling) and take her to the hotel on the first night, or should I wait for the 2nd night?
Thanks in advance, you're being very helpful.
It was a good fucking night. Know what I mean?
Wink wink, nudge nudge.
Let me start off by saying that I mentioned here a while back I'd post an experience up if I received advice from the board on picking up on dating/social sites. That didn't happen, but I figured I'd put this up anyway since I haven't seen any stories in a little bit. I'm no master when it comes to a) picking up, or b) telling stories, but here's mine.
I've been fairly active in the p4p scene in Tokyo over the past couple of years, but recently I grew unsatisfied with it. Basically, my ego needs the boost of girls who want me rather than ones who need to pay the rent/want nice bags/etc. The summer before I had something going with a housewife for a while, but since her husband found out that came to an end. I usually don't have the time, interest in venue or confidence to go pick up in a club, so I figured a dating or social site was the way to go. Got onto one that many Japanese frequent, paid for a month's membership and went on a tear, searching and mass mailing just about any asian girl living in or around Tokyo I could find. I didn't discriminate on whether they had a profile pic or not, figuring that shyness might be the major factor for not posting rather than ugliness.
Last week, I found one girl named Yuki who didn't have a main profile pic, but she had ones of herself in her album. If I'd searched only for profiles with main pics I would've missed her. She looks good, not a perfect 10 but for some reason she kind of reminds me of Kyoka Ishiguro. She also has an idea of how to take good pics of herself, because she's not smiling and in most of them she's not looking into the camera. I hit Yuki with a message jokingly asking her if she's trying to be secretive because she doesn't have a main pic, and she replies back the next day that she's not being secretive, it's just that she hasn't finished her profile yet. In retrospect I think it was a good opening, because it took her a bit off-guard. We send a couple messages back and forth over the next day and soon I get Yuki off the site and onto direct email via a throwaway gmail account (in her first direct mail she gives me her keitai and phone number, but for various reasons I don't want to give out that kind of info right away).
The mails are good but aren't heavily sexual, so I test her by sending a couple more photos of myself, including one of me with my shirt off, and she sends me a non-nude but sexy pic where she's lying back with her eyes closed, in a black dress with part of her bra showing. I reckon it's a good sign to set a date. I tell her I'm going to be in Tokyo doing some shopping and whatnot next Tuesday, and if she's got time after work why doesn't she join me? Yuki's up for it but says she has to do something with a friend and asks if it would be all right if her friend joins us, but I nip that in the bud by saying no, I only want to meet with you. Right away she changes her tune and says that's fine, she'll be free after 7 o'clock. I'm wondering if it was a genuine question or if it was a kind of test. LOL
Next Tuesday comes and Yuki tells me what she's going to be wearing (a grey blouse and beige skirt) and comments that she's worried about how I'll react when I see her in person because she's "ookii". I start wondering whether she's just being modest or if the pics she's been sending are 20kg out of date, but I wave it off. We meet in front of the Isetan near Kabukicho, and as it turns out she's fairly tall, about 165 cm I'd guess, Japanese size see or d-cups and she's got a nice, noticeable curve in her hips (but a flat belly) so of course she's big by Japanese standards. (She also appears to be the age she says she is, 28, because in her pics she looked like she could have been slightly older). I'm not a big guy by any means, so when she's in her heels she's about the same height as I am. Fortunately, although I prefer shorter girls I'm not bothered by her height and she's well put together in my estimation.
We get out to an Italian restaurant, and conversation is a bit slow going (Yuki's English is almost nonexistent and my nihongo's just above 4-kyu). I start to worry that things might collapse out of boredom, so I make sure to order a jug of wine which helps to ease things immeasurably. After about an hour there I take her over to karaoke, and we even knock out a few songs before we start making out with deep kisses and my sucking on her nipples. Now the next step seems obvious to any guy with a lick of sense, but I'm still a bit worried (you might have noticed I worry a lot) because the last couple of times I tried to take things to a love hotel the girls in question refused, despite being sopping wet (I suspect the fact that both of them had been westernized to some extent had something to do with it, or at least that's what I keep telling myself. LOL) I refuse to pussy out, however, and go ahead.
"Let's go, " I say in Japanese before our time in the karaoke booth's up.
"Okay, " she replies. "Where are we going? "
"Just for a walk, " I say, and much to my hidden delight Yuki agrees. Of course she doesn't even bat an eye when we step into a love hotel in Kabukicho. Various fucking ensues, and after about two hours with a few short breaks here and there she is thoroughly satisfied (as am I, of course). The only thing that keeps it from being a perfect evening is that she asks me at the end to pay for the hotel; my fragile ego nags at me with the thought of, "If she had such a good time, why didn't she offer to split the cost with me? " However, I console myself with the fact that she paid her share of both dinner and karaoke without any prompting, so she obviously wasn't just looking for a free meal. We part company, and as I've been writing this story we've made plans to hook up again next week.
Anyway, this story is nothing compared to the experiences of many others on this board, but it's hopefully the first of many encounters for me this summer.
The only thing that keeps it from being a perfect evening is that she asks me at the end to pay for the hotel; my fragile ego nags at me with the thought of, "If she had such a good time, why didn't she offer to split the cost with me? " However, I console myself with the fact that she paid her share of both dinner and karaoke without any prompting, so she obviously wasn't just looking for a free meal. We part company, and as I've been writing this story we've made plans to hook up again next week.
Good on you.
I wouldn't worry about splitting the hotel bill. Most Japanese girls take it as a matter of principle that the guy pays for the hotel. They'll go warikan on everything else, but only an old housewife who needs to pay for dick is going to be comfortable splitting the hotel fee.
In MHO. I think a combination of being gentleman (but don't empty your wallet.) as well as being macho/confident is a good pointer. The cocky/funny part may not be the best. Especially avoid too much irony unless you are really sure the language part is 100 % understood.
Some J-girls I dated thought Japanese men they met were a bit clumsy and not confident enough. Also for many girls. Who often can be good in english. Dating a westerner can be thrilling.
The J-girls I dated are as interested in sex as any other ladies, and behind a sometimes a bit shy, giggly and "50s style", they can be hot as hell.
I always ended in "kisses and C-U next time" or "where's the love hotel? " on the first or second date. Take it really gently with touching at first. Also girls don't like to show hugging and kissing in public. BUT don't forget to step up the action. And don't behave like you are at a "nihon-go class"! It is shaburi you want not shaberu
If you don't "test the waters" the girl will be happy enough with just a nice dinner. But I don't think that was your intent only.
Happy hunting.
Your advice and observations are dead on. I especially like the accurate reference to J-girls as "50's style"; I had not really thought about it like that before, but it's true -- in many cases. In terms of the way to treat J-girls, just like many other aspects of Japan, you just have to know the right buttons to push, and then things often line up like ducks in a row.
Azure Knight
08-15-10, 10:26
Let me start off by saying that I mentioned here a while back I'd post an experience up if I received advice from the board on picking up on dating/social sites. That didn't happen...
I must have missed your post, sorry. I kind of have to rely on the net for my nampa. Not that I'm a pro at it, but at least I can share my experiences. YMMV.
On the social sites, you're going to have either the ero-girl or the non-ero girl. Ero girls are easy. They just want to fuck a foreigner or screw around on their husbands or boyfriends. They're going to be up front about it, maybe even in their first message to you. They are out there, but usually they find you.
Once you trade a few messages, you meet up, maybe have a light dinner or coffee, take her to the LH and fuck her. That's it. If she likes you she'll keep you in her rotation (trust me, you're not the only one banging her). Simple. Ero girls vary, but you get a lot in the 30-40's...housewives who aren't getting at home. Personally, I think middle aged Japanese women are way underrated...usually double the sex drive and none of the hassle of younger women, but again YMMV.
For whatever reason, most of the ero girls who contact me don't live close. A lot are in Tokyo (I'm in Kansai), or even way farther. You may want to keep up semi-frequent contact with these girls - you never know when you'll be out there (or if they come to where you are). I actually just fucked a girl from Kyushu a few months ago who'd come up to Osaka for a concert. She let me know she was coming down, and after the concert she ditched her friend, I went to her hotel room, and it was a quick and easy lay. I have a few girls in Tokyo now I might be able to call up if and when I go down there.
Now, your non-ero girls. It's not that they're not horny and don't want sex, but you're going to have to put in some work for it, and not be obvious that you're only looking for sex. All I want really is a girl who I can have maybe one or two drinks with, a nice fuck, and that's it. I'd assume most of us here are looking for the same. I've had bad experiences with hurting women's feelings, so for a while I tried to be upfront and honest about my goals. I did allright, but I missed out on a lot. So if you have that problem, you're gonna have to get over it.
In the first messages, don't be obvious about wanting sex. Just have normal mail conversations with her. At first I usually try to exchange at least 2-3 messages a day - leave a few hours after getting a response and then send her one. Its a good way to get her into you and have her checking her mailbox for your next communication. Within or around a week, I'll either try to set up a meeting, or get the keitai email - whichever happens first in the flow of conversation. Setting up a meeting is the best. If the emails start getting long, I might say something like "With all the typing we're doing, we'd be better off just having a conversation in person" or something like that. J girls are pretty good at taking the lead here, or even giving you the opportunity.
Once you meet in person, from there it's just regular nampa. If you get to fuck on the first date that's wonderful, but you shouldn't try for it. In fact, keep the first date short. Meet up, have dinner or drinks or coffee, then tell her you gotta go. Busy and what not. This will make her want to see you again.
You might be able to bang her on the second date. Look for signals, and take her to a transistion point (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1002001#post1002001) and see if you can't escalate things. If you can get a kiss out of her, you are most likely good to go.
Many guys here use alcohol to get her more in the mood, but a lot of the women I go out with don't even drink. The nice thing is that alcohol isn't necessary - many J girls just go with the flow, and if she's meeting you a second time she has at least some interest in you. Just, without alcohol it may be harder to get her from restaurant -> LH directly, which is why I like the transistion points.
After fucking, the non-ero girls may say a lot of stuff that will potentially scare you off - using words like love and planning for stuff months in advance. Just blow it off - remember that a lot of relationships start with all these overblown emotions and lofty promises. You will want to start conditioning her though. Cut back on the frequency of mail - Maybe once or twice a day. Tell her you are busy with work. You will also want to meter how often you meet her. If you meet her once a week at first, start making that once every two weeks or even once a month. Again, work is a nice excuse. I always tell them that I'm an English teacher for a private school. It lets me work on weeknds, be random about my hours and I can force her to meet my schedule.
After tapering her off, she will either just accept that you are busy and can't meet often (this happens a lot in Japanese relationships), and it can naturally transistion into a FB relationship. If she brings it up, you can say that you are busy and just don't have the time - you like meeting up with her, but if she expects more you just can't do it. She'll either accept it or walk. If she walks, you probably didn't want it to go any further than this anyway. If she doesn't, you end up falling into FB status, or she'll hit you with the conversation again at some point, and then you'll need to run. Many girls will accept, especially if she has nothing better lined up and she enjoys the sex.
You can even start setting it up in the beginning, by saying that you aren't particularly looking for a relationship due to work/bad experiences in the past/whatever, but you'd be willing to give it a shot if you found someone interesting. This gives her that "I'm special!" feeling and frames the eventual breakup/transistion to FB. You don't have to go that far, but basically you should avoid looking like a playboy.
Again, YMMV. I've been dealing with some non-ero girls for a little while and this is what I've found. Though I say "non-ero", some of these girls have been knockouts in bed, especially if its for the guy they're into.
Azure Knight
08-15-10, 10:36
I usually don't have the time, interest in venue or confidence to go pick up in a club, so I figured a dating or social site was the way to go. Got onto one that many Japanese frequent, paid for a month's membership and went on a tear
Whoops, forgot to ask - which site? If you don't want to share publicly maybe a PM?
I also can't really do bar/club nampa so I have to rely on social sites/deai.
I wouldn't worry about splitting the hotel bill. Most Japanese girls take it as a matter of principle that the guy pays for the hotel. They'll go warikan on everything else, but only an old housewife who needs to pay for dick is going to be comfortable splitting the hotel fee.Thanks for that, Xslikx. The second time we met up she invited me over to her place for a few hours of play while her sister was out, so now I don't feel bad about paying for the room the first time at all.
I must have missed your post, sorry.No need to apologize at all, Azure Knight. It's not like anyone here owed me anything, I was just framing the situation for my new post. I didn't mean for that to come across as complaining, though looking back at my writing I can see how it could come across that way. Sorry about that.
I kind of have to rely on the net for my nampa. Not that I'm a pro at it, but at least I can share my experiences. YMMV.Thanks for that huge list of great advice! Some of it I've heard before from friends who do well at this sort of thing (such as the transition point) but some of it is new for me. For example, I've usually tried to transition to email within a couple of days rather than waiting a week with non-ero girls (in fact all my successful internet nampa experiences, including the one I posted about, have been with non-ero girls. It's more out of happenstance than design, mind you). I might try taking a bit longer with it and see if that improves my low success ratio.
Concerning distance, I haven't really tried to get anyone further away; I've been focusing on Tokyo and Saitama pretty much exclusively, though I can see the merit in going further afield.
Personally, I think middle aged Japanese women are way underrated...usually double the sex drive and none of the hassle of younger women, but again YMMV.Agreed. I had a great time with that housewife last year, and although she wasn't amazingly hot she was decent looking, quite small (maybe 150 cm, which is a big turn-on for me) and was very eager in bed. That said, this new one who's in her 20s is also eager and seems to be wet all the time so I don't miss the housewife that much. ;)
Hi everyone,
I'm posting this just to thank everybody for the great advices!
My 10 days in Japan are over, but I will keep them in mind as the most successful in many years. Thanks to JC, mostly, which I could have never found without your help. I spent 7 days in Kansai for work and 3 in Tokyo for leisure. In the Kansai days I managed to go out with a 38 years girl. We didn't have sex just because it was on the first night and she was a "good girl", but if I had another night she would have been nailed, no question. Then I went to Tokyo, I had more time and things got much better! First I met a Filipina which I had "cooked" from my country before leaving: fucked on the first night!
Then on the next morning I met a very nice Jap, all dressed up, in a Starbucks while having breakfast: started talking and she gave me a date for the night. Then on the same day I met another Jap who had contacted me a few days before: we visited a shrine, went to dinner and kissed on the street (she was a bit embarassed). The we set a date for the next day: she would come to my hotel!
On my way back to the hotel (it was 10 PM) I called the pretty girl from the Starbucks: she joined me at the hotel and we went to an expensive (but nice) place to drink something. I tried to make hand contact after a while, but she was rather passive, so I preferred to see her on the next morning and wait for my final attack.
In the next morning she took me out for shopping and was very nice to me, but very cold and passive sex-wise. In the end it came out that some Italian friends of her had warned her about Italians and the way they try to seduce girls even if they are married (f***ng bastards, it's exactly my condition!). In the end, I only managed to give her a few stamp kisses. I was getting nervous because she was so attractive and well dressed. Then she went to work and I went to my hotel to wait for the other Jap.
She arrived on time, came up to my room and in 5 minuted we were fucking like pigs! She's very hot indeed, but also a nice person to talk to. Then after 2 rounds we went out for dinner and eventually kissed her goodbye.
That was my last night in Tokyo: I was really impressed on how easy and exciting it was to pickup girls, on the net or on the street!
Not to mention that I had to skip a date with another pretty one from JC: just didn't have time!
JC definitely works! Highly recommended!
Backtobasics
08-20-10, 09:16
I wonder if only visiting Japan, or being from a different region, helps. Thus far as a Tokyo resident the Tokyo area is proving a hard nut to crack.
Being a 'tourist', of some kind or another, sweeps away the usual crap of wanting a long-term relationship, methinks.
Then again, it might be because I'm 49, and not exactly a hunk ...
Hi everyone,
I'm posting this just to thank everybody for the great advices!
My 10 days in Japan are over, but I will keep them in mind as the most successful in many years. Thanks to JC, mostly, which I could have never found without your help. I spent 7 days in Kansai for work and 3 in Tokyo for leisure. In the Kansai days I managed to go out with a 38 years girl. We didn't have sex just because it was on the first night and she was a "good girl", but if I had another night she would have been nailed, no question. Then I went to Tokyo, I had more time and things got much better! First I met a Filipina which I had "cooked" from my country before leaving: fucked on the first night!
Then on the next morning I met a very nice Jap, all dressed up, in a Starbucks while having breakfast: started talking and she gave me a date for the night. Then on the same day I met another Jap who had contacted me a few days before: we visited a shrine, went to dinner and kissed on the street (she was a bit embarassed). The we set a date for the next day: she would come to my hotel!
On my way back to the hotel (it was 10 PM) I called the pretty girl from the Starbucks: she joined me at the hotel and we went to an expensive (but nice) place to drink something. I tried to make hand contact after a while, but she was rather passive, so I preferred to see her on the next morning and wait for my final attack.
In the next morning she took me out for shopping and was very nice to me, but very cold and passive sex-wise. In the end it came out that some Italian friends of her had warned her about Italians and the way they try to seduce girls even if they are married (f***ng bastards, it's exactly my condition!). In the end, I only managed to give her a few stamp kisses. I was getting nervous because she was so attractive and well dressed. Then she went to work and I went to my hotel to wait for the other Jap.
She arrived on time, came up to my room and in 5 minuted we were fucking like pigs! She's very hot indeed, but also a nice person to talk to. Then after 2 rounds we went out for dinner and eventually kissed her goodbye.
That was my last night in Tokyo: I was really impressed on how easy and exciting it was to pickup girls, on the net or on the street!
Not to mention that I had to skip a date with another pretty one from JC: just didn't have time!
JC definitely works! Highly recommended!
I'm coming late to the conversation, but several years ago i met an intelligent and interesting Filipina thru one of the online sites -- maybe Cherry blossom.
It turned out she was a maid for some high flying expat in Tokyo. About the time I realized i need to meet the gal, she was off to some other country. Missed my chance and I regret it. As some have said, it's not common for Japanese to have maids, but there does some to be some visa exception for expats.
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I live in Shibuya, and actually there are a fair number of housemaids around here, including those from my neighbor's home, the former PM Aso. BUT, they're the ones that are too old for "The Game" and you most certainly wouldn't be hitting on them. :eek:
The Tanuki
Dusty Jones
10-24-10, 12:18
I must have missed your post, sorry. I kind of have to rely on the net for my nampa. Not that I'm a pro at it, but at least I can share my experiences. YMMV.
On the social sites, you're going to have either the ero-girl or the non-ero girl. Ero girls are easy. They just want to fuck a foreigner or screw around on their husbands or boyfriends. They're going to be up front about it, maybe even in their first message to you. They are out there, but usually they find you.Ok I get this but I have a question, Where do you find the Ero Girls, or at least put yourself in Position to be *found* by them? I'm using Mixi and I thought they were strong on that, or is there something that I am missing. Like
How can I tell if a girl is an Ero girl or not?
Azure Knight
10-28-10, 15:07
Just be visible. Put together a profile and post in random threads. I used to keep a sex blog, which wasn't even that explicit, but mixi shut down that profile and I only have one left so I don't want to risk it. The blog was pretty effective though... Make sure you have a profile at least.
You'll know an ero girl when you get one. She will usually make her intentions clear fairly early on.
Dusty Jones
10-29-10, 23:15
Just be visible. Put together a profile and post in random threads. I used to keep a sex blog, which wasn't even that explicit, but mixi shut down that profile and I only have one left so I don't want to risk it. The blog was pretty effective though... Make sure you have a profile at least.
You'll know an ero girl when you get one. She will usually make her intentions clear fairly early on.Ahh ok cool, I'll do that then.
I'm working with tagged too, but not as much as mixi though.
How have you been getting on with tagged?
Nail The World
10-30-10, 14:41
I am going to be spending a few months in Japan, starting with Tokyo. I was thinking of enrolling in a Japanese language school for at least a month (and look for opportunities to screw fellow students and others if the school provides such interaction). Anybody has suggestions about what might be a good school/area for such dual purposes? I am checking them out online but I have zero clue about Japan and its areas (I am exploring areas and zones online). I am 40.
I will also look to setup an online profile somewhere as a second channel of communication. I think I've seen a mention of what websites to consider a few months back. Japan cupid is what I remember of the top of my head. I have had some luck with Vietnam cupid last year. Date in asia didn't work out well, it seemed to be full of fillipinas and thais.
Nail The World
10-30-10, 15:18
I'll add one more question. I am thinking Tokyo but only because that's the first thing that comes to mind. Is Osaka a better place to start for a newbie? Some other place altogether?
AussieGaigin
10-30-10, 22:46
I was thinking of enrolling in a Japanese language school for at least a month (and look for opportunities to screw fellow students and others if the school provides such interaction). Anybody has suggestions about what might be a good school/area for such dual purposes? I am checking them out online but I have zero clue about Japan and its areas (I am exploring areas and zones online). I am 40.
Well, Japanese language schools are not likely to be over-run with horny J girls; no doubt there might be some foreign girls studying at them but it might be pot luck what you find. Perhaps if you can find a school that also teaches English, then your chances will be better.
Make some enquiries about the "international Parties" on Friday and Saturday nights around Tokyo.
Azure Knight
11-03-10, 10:31
Ahh ok cool, I'll do that then.
I'm working with tagged too, but not as much as mixi though.
How have you been getting on with tagged?
Tagged...not at all. Some guys swear by it but I don't really understand how it works and don't like it too much. I will probably delete my profile soon.
Dusty Jones
11-05-10, 19:05
Which is part of why I was surprised. She's married and older than me.
I mean, most women will usually at least make an effort to look like they're going to split the cost with you. This one just straight up retreated.
But as was said, still cheaper and better overall than most other shops, so I've got no complaints. Just gotta find cheaper love hotels, is all.If you live in or near shinjuku, Ks Hotel in Kabukicho is CHEAP like around 3000 for 3 hours and 6000 for all night its my hotel of choice
Dusty Jones
11-05-10, 19:39
I'll add one more question. I am thinking Tokyo but only because that's the first thing that comes to mind. Is Osaka a better place to start for a newbie? Some other place altogether?I would say Start in Osaka, I started and lived in Tokyo for three years, and Ive heard a LOT of people who started in Osaka had LOTS more success, the people(I mean women of course) are a lot friendlier, open and easier than ladies in Tokyo, I mean yeah you can get ladies in Tokyo but Osaka is the best for a newbie.
If you were gonna stay for a long period of time, Id say that after a year or so, move up to Tokyo. which is pretty much long enough to get basic J down without learning the Dialect down there(which is considered Rude here)
Dusty Jones
11-06-10, 00:27
I am probably going to have a few dates next week and I was wondering about godo Transition spots in the Shinjuku mainly Kabukicho Area,
I know a couple first meeting spots, like the excelsior coffee shop in front of Kabukicho and be- wave bar in Kabukicho near the *Turkish*hub and Pachikko Parlor, and I of course know the love hotels (Hotel K is the cheapest and easiest there) But I need some really good transition spots before going to the hotel, where I can get close and Cozy with the girl to get her ready for love hotel action, I hate doing Karaoke as some girls just get to jittery since going to Karaoke with only one person of the opposite sex =... Sex which = just going to the damn love hotel, I stopped doing that as It was just became a waste of time and money(although I did bang two women in Kareoke but still Id rather not go there)
So yes, really good Transition spots, Kabukicho, If anyone could help me out that would be great!
Thanks
Tokyo Nampa King
11-09-10, 07:35
I am probably going to have a few dates next week and I was wondering about godo Transition spots in the Shinjuku mainly Kabukicho Area,
I know a couple first meeting spots, like the excelsior coffee shop in front of Kabukicho and be- wave bar in Kabukicho near the *Turkish*hub and Pachikko Parlor, and I of course know the love hotels (Hotel K is the cheapest and easiest there) But I need some really good transition spots before going to the hotel, where I can get close and Cozy with the girl to get her ready for love hotel action, I hate doing Karaoke as some girls just get to jittery since going to Karaoke with only one person of the opposite sex =... Sex which = just going to the damn love hotel, I stopped doing that as It was just became a waste of time and money(although I did bang two women in Kareoke but still Id rather not go there)
So yes, really good Transition spots, Kabukicho, If anyone could help me out that would be great!
ThanksOne of the best transition spot I know is that small bar across from Hotel Listo called Half Time. It has an outside patio and a guitar inside you can play with. Its a great place to have a couple quiet drink, get close and when the feeling is right say "Lets go across the street" cause the hotel is right there.
Here is the google maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&source=embed&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=109885467984418606759.00048095141505b699a3e&ll=35.695807,139.702119&spn=0,0.002411&z=19&layer=c&cbll=35.69578,139.702171&panoid=UKXdcmM3nlpLTyOhNzrC8A&cbp=12,222.5,,0,20.02
Good luck mate.
Dusty Jones
11-11-10, 13:45
Awesome thanks! I'll be going there next week!
Fynx Gloire
11-13-10, 03:27
Please do tell.
As for business cards, you can go to almost any copy store (such as Kinko's, or just a local print shop). Just look for? On the signage. It helps if you bring and electronic file of what you want.Ok, now that I am a free man (not going to jail) I will tell you why not to give out your personal business cards to any *****.
I dated a girl a few years back, lived in her place bla bla bla, then I decided it was time to quit and called it quits. Problem was she did not want to quit.
Ever happen to any of you guys?
Anyways, she made up some excuse that I was physically abusive to her, she went as far as breaking her leg bu herself, going to the hospital for 8 months, and then calling the cops on me, with a medical certificate.
I was sequestered, interrogated, had my DNA taken, fingerprints, had a mug shot taken, the went to the municipal court in downtown and was found innocent on all charges. (here in Japan you are guilty until proven innocent, which is what I found out the hard way, this was a 2 year ordeal, just finished early this year)
So now I thought it was over, NO, since she knew where I worked she emailed my boss, HR dpt, made up a bunch of lies about me, wrote a 100 page document detailing these lies and mailed it the my companies main headquarters on Wall Street New York city. (you can probably guess what industry I am in)
So getting called into hr is not the most fun thing you can imagine over something like this.
I lost one job because of this *****, I got a new one recently, and she did the same shit again to my present job. But I showed them that I got cleared from court, and all charges had been dropped. Etc. So HR said its ok, nothing will happen to you. Whew.
Bottom line: Do not let any ***** know where you live, do noT let any ***** know where you work, do not get serious and live with any *****. (To me all women are bitches) No matter how hot she is, this ex of mine is a Ginza Hostess, hence I was not thinking with the right head.
Now I am currently dating around 12 women, none of them know where I live, none of them know where I work, and this is how I will keep it. I made fake business cards and use those.
We go out on dates and to love hotels inclusively.
Trust me, you don't want to go through the shit I have been through, I am a very lucky SOB.
Dusty Jones
11-13-10, 22:44
Hey Tokyo Nampa King,
I went and checked out Half Time today in Kabukicho.
Unfortunately the closed that location and moved to a bar on the 6th across the street, I checked it out and the seating arrangements pretty much sucked
Anyway I went to another place in the Tatehana building (the BIG white building next to listo)
and found a place called Small Temple, its Cozy but probably not as much as Half Time its on the b1 floor of that building,
That place can be used as a Transition spot.
Do you or anyone else know of any other transition spots in that area?
I've been using Tagged for about 2 weeks (I signed up a few months ago but didn't quite get it and was put off by the MySpace-ness of it all).
The key for me is getting them away from Tagged and into Skype, MSN, Yahoo (which seems very popular). I just sent a lot of Tags, Winks, Luv, Messages to get a feel before asking for their username for Skype etc. After that it's just regular get to know you/me crap and feel them out. Once you start getting kiss tags, or other flirty type tags you're pretty much in. That's when I ask to meet.
So roll forward to last Saturday I meet a girl (Filipina late 30's) that was sending me tags like "Here is a voucher for ANYTHING and I mean anything". We met pretty early, like 10am and she arrives wearing a mini skirt, stockings and her massive rack on show. I've never been with a Filipina before but damn! She was only 150cm too. First thing she does is say hi then start touching my pecs!! "Maybe they're bigger then mine!", "really?", so I grab her titties. "I don't think so". Off to a good start.
We walked around a bit and I suggested we go get something to eat or drink but she's not interested. She has these thigh high boots on so they're hurting her feet so we find a place to sit down for a while. More talking, a bit more touching and we went to grab something to eat.
After eating we kinda walked around more and went to do some purikura.. took the chance to touch her more, kiss her and spent an extra few minutes after the photos had finished. We left there and walked around a bit and sat down. She is like "what do you wanna do?", I said I wanna have some fun but she thought I meant going to a game center! I said "no.. hotel". She was a bit shocked and we discussed it a while since it was the first time I'd met her, she was worried I would delete her etc after. more playing around and I said "OK, lets go". Found a hotel, and got it on. She had some massive mams and a decent body but was kinda shy.. Made me turn all the lights off etc, didn't want me to look at her pussy etc. I went down on her til she came, then she gave me a decent BBBJ then hopped on and rode me like a champ. Multiple position and much fun.
it doesn't end there though, since she messaged me last night saying she wanted to kill herself.. turns out she'd drank too much and is having issues with an ex etc.. Drama.. I love it. Seems OK now and I'll probably meet her again in a few weeks hopefully.
In my area (Kansai), there seems to be a LOT of Filipina's and much less Japanese on Tagged. The Filipina girls seem much more receptive to meeting etc and definitely up for more fun.
I joined that myself.
Japancupid is pretty damn useless.
Lets see how this thing goes.
Dusty Jones
11-15-10, 08:44
Wow, SO tagged is just that easy eh? Ok then, I'll work on that then.
I've been using Tagged for about 2 weeks (I signed up a few months ago but didn't quite get it and was put off by the MySpace-ness of it all).
The key for me is getting them away from Tagged and into Skype, MSN, Yahoo (which seems very popular). I just sent a lot of Tags, Winks, Luv, Messages to get a feel before asking for their username for Skype etc. After that it's just regular get to know you/me crap and feel them out. Once you start getting kiss tags, or other flirty type tags you're pretty much in. That's when I ask to meet.
So roll forward to last Saturday I meet a girl (Filipina late 30's) that was sending me tags like "Here is a voucher for ANYTHING and I mean anything". We met pretty early, like 10am and she arrives wearing a mini skirt, stockings and her massive rack on show. I've never been with a Filipina before but damn! She was only 150cm too. First thing she does is say Hi then start touching my pecs! "Maybe they're bigger then mine! ", "really? ", so I grab her titties. "I don't think so". Off to a good start.
We walked around a bit and I suggested we go get something to eat or drink but she's not interested. She has these thigh high boots on so they're hurting her feet so we find a place to sit down for a while. More talking, a bit more touching and we went to grab something to eat.
After eating we kinda walked around more and went to do some purikura. Took the chance to touch her more, kiss her and spent an extra few minutes after the photos had finished. We left there and walked around a bit and sat down. She is like "what do you want to do? ", I said I want to have some fun but she thought I meant going to a game center! I said "no. Hotel". She was a bit shocked and we discussed it a while since it was the first time I'd met her, she was worried I would delete her etc after. More playing around and I said "OK, lets go". Found a hotel, and got it on. She had some massive mams and a decent body but was kinda shy. Made me turn all the lights off etc, didn't want me to look at her pussy etc. I went down on her til she came, then she gave me a decent BBBJ then hopped on and rode me like a champ. Multiple position and much fun.
It doesn't end there though, since she messaged me last night saying she wanted to kill herself. Turns out she'd drank too much and is having issues with an ex etc. Drama. I love it. Seems OK now and I'll probably meet her again in a few weeks hopefully.
In my area (Kansai), there seems to be a LOT of Filipina's and much less Japanese on Tagged. The Filipina girls seem much more receptive to meeting etc and definitely up for more fun.
In my area (Kansai), there seems to be a LOT of Filipina's and much less Japanese on Tagged. The Filipina girls seem much more receptive to meeting etc and definitely up for more fun.The believe the overwhelming majority of girls on Tagged for Japan are Filipinas. I'd say it's about 80% in the Kanto area.
I've been using Tagged since this past January. And let me tell ya, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Most girls are willing to give out their number or MSN/Yahoo within the first 2-3 email exchanges. I've received about 200 numbers/emails since joining.
It's a matter of not being overly perverted but letting them know subtly you wanna get "romantic". Just sweet talk them and treat them to a decent meal and drinks. Filipinas are suckers for that. Soon enough, they'll be putting out. I haven't done p4p since then.
You might have to deal with some drama and lie through your teeth, but as long as you give them some attention, they'll be very attentive to your needs. Non-Filipinas on Tagged that I've been with (Chinese, Ugandan, Russian, Korean) needed a little more work to get into bed.
Yeah, Tagged is mostly good for Philapinas. I've met a couple J-girls through the site, but mostly Philapinas in their 30s, and a few in their 20s.
One of the best transition spot I know is that small bar across from Hotel Listo called Half Time. how about Shibuya transition? Maybe cozy place for a meal where we are semi private but close enough to a love hotel.
Dusty Jones
11-15-10, 20:43
how about Shibuya transition? Maybe cozy place for a meal where we are semi private but close enough to a love hotel.Shibuya is pretty easy, theres a place called Lockup in Centergai, its a jail themed place, with *scare shows every hour or so, just take you and your date to the counter seat and play grabby hands then.
Shibuya is pretty easy, take a girl to the zara building for the restaurant inside lockup karaoke (if she still isn't feelin ya by then) hotel
I just like Shinjuku better imo, with the Above I just used to start the date at like 9:30 or 10 and just get to Kareoke for her to miss the last train and bam... But. I can't do that during the week, so Its just easier to go out to Shinjuku go to a regular spot, get to a transition point, in kabukicho one step from the LH and bam you are there, much more convenient,
Azure Knight
11-17-10, 17:46
Yet another glowing review of Tagged, and I still haven't quite gotten it to work for me. What am I doing wrong?
I don't have a real pic of myself up for security reasons, should I change that?
Also, how do you start out? I've just been sending winks or quick messages with a simple one-liner. Not enough perhaps? Gifts and stuff like that looks like it costs money, and I don't particularly want to pay if I don't have to.
Yet another glowing review of Tagged, and I still haven't quite gotten it to work for me. What am I doing wrong?
I don't have a real pic of myself up for security reasons, should I change that?
Also, how do you start out? I've just been sending winks or quick messages with a simple one-liner. Not enough perhaps? Gifts and stuff like that looks like it costs money, and I don't particularly want to pay if I don't have to.
Yeah, I opened an account today and am also struggling to get with the program.
Dusty Jones
11-17-10, 20:32
Yet another glowing review of Tagged, and I still haven't quite gotten it to work for me. What am I doing wrong?
I don't have a real pic of myself up for security reasons, should I change that?
Also, how do you start out? I've just been sending winks or quick messages with a simple one-liner. Not enough perhaps? Gifts and stuff like that looks like it costs money, and I don't particularly want to pay if I don't have to.I think a picture helps... Just get an older picture of yourself or something something that no one you know but the person you're going to meet will recognize
Or you could put your real pic and if it ever comes up just deny that its you, you could say that someone stole your pic and is using it or something blah blah blah
Yeah I'm still working on Tagged too but just try to do searches from all around where you live. I'm taking a bit of a break form tagged as it just seems like too much trouble atm. Mixi seems easier ATM.
Tokyo seems to have a lot more options (naturally I guess) but my problem is finding time. I have had more time then places like Wakayama / Okuyama are options. I don't even have time to make it out to Kobe so I'm limited for choices.
I usually start out with a "thanks for adding me" yoroshiku if they're J, where are you from? if they're not. How long in Osaka / Where ever. Then drop some comments on their pics but try and make them diff from all other guys going "OMG HOT" or whatever.
Start sending tags (friendly ones at first), then ramp them up slowly based on hope they react. That's worked for me and I could set up a bunch of meetings.
I have to say though, I have some P4P options too (a few girls that have quit the fuuzoku business but still keep in contact with on a business basis and a few dates here and there) and considering the time it takes (online then offline) with Tagged and the money (lunch, drinks + hotel = 10,000+) and with the possibility of zero action; P4P is a great option still.
Still want to go to Tobita and see Ai :<
I've been reading that some fellow posters are having trouble getting results from using Tagged. In terms of dating/social sites, Tagged is pretty noisy with lots of bells and whistles to interact with other members. In my 10+ months on the site, I have stuck to using only LUVs and WINKs. I have never sent tags, comments, videos, gifts, etc. to any girl on there. I don't have the time nor the interest in searching for various things to send girls. And lastly, DON'T PAY A YEN to use that site. Everything that you need is available free of charge as a regular member.
In my profile, I have solo head shots (although I've been told women want candid shots with friends) but use a fake name, birthday and status. All the other profile information is mostly true but so generic that it would be hard to pinpoint me. Since I live and work in the Tokyo Metro Area, I use the BROWSE menu to search for women in the Kanto area. It has a feature to locate women by age and prefecture.
When I see a profile of a girl I'm interested in, I'll first send an "Add Friends" request, a wink and an accompanying (form: see below) email message introducing myself. If the girl is really hot, I'll send a LUV, but you're only allowed 3 per day. You'll usually get your first response via "Friend Request Accepted" or "Wink" back, then if you pique her interest, she'll actually send a message reply.
First contact email:
"Good evening. I'm John, Canadian in Tokyo. Hasn't it been so cold lately? Hope you're keeping warm. If you've got some time, let's chat. Take care. John"
"Konnichi wa! It's John in Tokyo. Hope you're enjoying the weekend. I'm just relaxing here having a glass of wine listening to some music. Have some time to talk? John.
"Hiya (girl's name)! Genki? I'm at work in Shibuya but it's a little slow. So how's your day been? John."
The reply will usually be a "Thank you. Where are you from? How long have you been in Japan?" type message. Follow that up with your reply answering her questions and asking her the same things. Then mention something within her profile information. I almost never ever make a comment on her appearance or pics. Last, mention that it would be a good idea to talk more and suggest exchanging contact information.
If she replies to you a second time, it will usually have either her mobile number and/or address along with her YM/MSN/Skype info. From that point on, you take the contact off of Tagged and get more direct. In my emails (see below) to the girl, I'm almost always the "nice guy". I write in good English, polite but straight, and not too long.
Second email:
"Hi (girl's name). Thanks for your reply. Yeah, I can't stand the weather here either. But it would be nice to have someone to keep warm with. Well, I've been in Japan a couple of years now working for a bank. What do you do in your free time? It would be great to talk sometime. Mind if we exchange contact info? Talk with you soon. John"
"Thanks for the reply (girl's name). Oh, so you have the same days off. How do you relax in your free time? Do you like to go out as well? I'd love to talk with ya more. Mind if I give you call sometime? John"
"Hi (girl's name). Oh you're also in Shibuya? Maybe we've passed each other before. It's so crowded right? Hahaha. Have you ever been to the XXXX bar/restaurant? Would be cool to meet up there sometime. John"
Mind you, I'm not what most women would consider very handsome, I'm average height and overweight. Women do say I have a nice smile, I'm polite, funny and sweet. So, I've been able to get a lot of pussy with minimal cash (take them out for coffee/drinks and karaoke), some patience (don't talk sex or romance unless she mentions it first) and lots of lying (make sure you keep your story straight). For the most part, the girl just wants some attention and be entertained.
From here, you're on your own, but I'll offer my technique that usually works for me:
Don't necessarily expect sex on the first date. Just be a nice "gentleman" and treat her well for a decent drink/coffee and/or karaoke/bowling/darts/billiards. Keep contact with her regularly until you plan the second date. My best excuse is "I've been so tired lately with work. I want to see you again soon, but don't really want to go out. Mind if we relax together?" Of course, this relax means "let's get a room."
She might balk at first. However, with enough sweet talking and gentle persuasion, she'll eventually agree. After that, she might get a bit attached but just let her know the ground rules of your intentions. With this method, I've bedded at least 20 women this year spending a few hours a week on Tagged. Like I wrote in a previous post, from this site I've been with women from various countries though mostly Filipinas with ages ranging from 21 to 40 and working anywhere from hostess clubs to Fortune 500 companies to part-time models.
Hope this helps some guys out there. Geesh, lots of typing! LOL!
Dusty Jones
11-18-10, 13:45
wow thats nice jpn dude, ill start working with this then since im a bit burnt out on mixi for a while (after a couple of weeks i have been having a coffee date and a second succesful date nearly every day now)
need to take a break lol. hopefully with guys getting up on tagged, it will make women even more receptive to guys now, since they'll be getting good sex lol.
got a question though, ive browsed before and after about the second page of 100 peeps i notice that the logins turn to like 2 weeks and 3 months etc, you ve been doing this for a year, how do you not run out of women to talk to?
i've been reading that some fellow posters are having trouble getting results from using tagged. in terms of dating/social sites, tagged is pretty noisy with lots of bells and whistles to interact with other members. in my 10+ months on the site, i have stuck to using only luvs and winks. i have never sent tags, comments, videos, gifts, etc. to any girl on there. i don't have the time nor the interest in searching for various things to send girls. and lastly, don't pay a yen to use that site. everything that you need is available free of charge as a regular member.
in my profile, i have solo head shots (although i've been told women want candid shots with friends) but use a fake name, birthday and status. all the other profile information is mostly true but so generic that it would be hard to pinpoint me. since i live and work in the tokyo metro area, i use the browse menu to search for women in the kanto area. it has a feature to locate women by age and prefecture.
when i see a profile of a girl i'm interested in, i'll first send an "add friends" request, a wink and an accompanying (form: see below) email message introducing myself. if the girl is really hot, i'll send a luv, but you're only allowed 3 per day. you'll usually get your first response via "friend request accepted" or "wink" back, then if you pique her interest, she'll actually send a message reply.
the reply will usually be a "thank you. where are you from? how long have you been in japan?" type message. follow that up with your reply answering her questions and asking her the same things. then mention something within her profile information. i almost never ever make a comment on her appearance or pics. last, mention that it would be a good idea to talk more and suggest exchanging contact information.
if she replies to you a second time, it will usually have either her mobile number and/or address along with her ym/msn/skype info. from that point on, you take the contact off of tagged and get more direct. in my emails (see below) to the girl, i'm almost always the "nice guy". i write in good english, polite but straight, and not too long.
mind you, i'm not what most women would consider very handsome, i'm average height and overweight. women do say i have a nice smile, i'm polite, funny and sweet. so, i've been able to get a lot of pussy with minimal cash (take them out for coffee/drinks and karaoke), some patience (don't talk sex or romance unless she mentions it first) and lots of lying (make sure you keep your story straight). for the most part, the girl just wants some attention and be entertained.
from here, you're on your own, but i'll offer my technique that usually works for me:
don't necessarily expect sex on the first date. just be a nice "gentleman" and treat her well for a decent drink/coffee and/or karaoke/bowling/darts/billiards. keep contact with her regularly until you plan the second date. my best excuse is "i've been so tired lately with work. i want to see you again soon, but don't really want to go out. mind if we relax together?" of course, this relax means "let's get a room."
she might balk at first. however, with enough sweet talking and gentle persuasion, she'll eventually agree. after that, she might get a bit attached but just let her know the ground rules of your intentions. with this method, i've bedded at least 20 women this year spending a few hours a week on tagged. like i wrote in a previous post, from this site i've been with women from various countries though mostly filipinas with ages ranging from 21 to 40 and working anywhere from hostess clubs to fortune 500 companies to part-time models.
hope this helps some guys out there. geesh, lots of typing! lol!
Hope this helps some guys out there. Geesh, lots of typing! LOL!
You are great! Thanks!
I signed up for JC for a month. Talked with several girls, but the only promising lead was a 40-something who had just been dumped by a foreigner and seemed to have major issues, so I passed. The girls there seem mostly into relationships, so that plus the fees it takes just to send emails made it not so great an avenue for me.
I haven't been on AFF in a long time. Did successfully catch one or two girls from there, but I don't know what's going on now with it, and I don't want to throw away money for something that might not be worth it.
I've been on mixi for several years now, and I've managed to successfully pull maybe 10 girls or so from there. Some looking for boyfriends, others just wanting to mess around with a foreigner. Takes quite a bit of work, but its free so I won't complain at all. Mixi has gotten super-strict with their rules about sex-stuff, so that's been a pain, but still somewhat workable.
Craigslist has stuff sometimes, but unless you are in Tokyo the pickings will be few and far between.
As I don't get to go out much and do RL nampa, the net is my best/only option. I have to believe there's more out there than just this. I'll share all the mixi strats I have if desired, what I'm looking for is good/better alternatives. I know they have to exist.I gave up on JC. It was just a waste of time and money. Tagged seems to be better. Still no action from it though!
Backtobasics
11-30-10, 09:45
I gave up on Tagged. it was doing my head in! I could only connect with squarish Filipinos who seemed caught up in the social networking side of things.
Had some near misses on JQ, but recently hit pay-dirt with a certain someone. Filthy as hell.
I think JQ has the least potential, but Tagged just messed with my mind. The day I deleted my profile I sighed and felt like I got part of my life back.
I gave up on Tagged. it was doing my head in! I could only connect with squarish Filipinos who seemed caught up in the social networking side of things.
Had some near misses on JQ, but recently hit pay-dirt with a certain someone. Filthy as hell.
I think JQ has the least potential, but Tagged just messed with my mind. The day I deleted my profile I sighed and felt like I got part of my life back.Cool! You do get a lot of brush offs on tagged. The other thing I found was theres a fair few "new half" which call themselves women. Be careful. I for one can do without the Crying Game shit.
Cool! You do get a lot of brush offs on tagged. The other thing I found was theres a fair few "new half" which call themselves women. Be careful. I for one can do without the Crying Game shit.Mostly active or x bar girls on tagged. They are brain fried.
I met one chick off tagged. She was on the rebound. Kinda NSA rebound for her I guess. We had a nice time together. Tagged paid off but its a bit of a pain wading through all the BS on their site.
Ok so I reported on the chick I met off tagged. It was fun and the best part is that she is not up for more. Ie. No hassles. NSA! Exactly what I wanted. Moving onto the next target now!
The Tanuki
12-15-10, 09:31
Ok so I reported on the chick I met off tagged. It was fun and the best part is that she is not up for more. Ie. No hassles. NSA! Exactly what I wanted. Moving onto the next target now!I've hooked up with a f*k buddy out of JC recently. A little bit of drama though so need to punt that one soon to avoid finding rabbit stew at home later. .
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Yep. Exactly. No phone number given nor received. Did not tell where I lived nor worked. No way she saw my wallet etc. Long story short: All over red rover.
Well. It looks like the tagged lady liked having her pussy licked. Haha. She's back for more. This time apparently its just as friends. We shall see. She is older but very cute.
So I went out with her tonight. I had to pay for the drinks and some food at a Namba Izakaya. Afterwards she was like ITS UP TO YOU WHERE WE GO. So I said no pressure but lets go to a LH and just relax. 5 mins in the door I had her all over me and wanting a shower together. After which we had 3 rounds. Ran out of condoms.
Third time we re-used one which broke. I pulled out and came on her tummy in time. She ran off to wash herself out or something. Not worried about this tho. She is pretty careful and so am I. You can't be too careful really. I never cum inside any of these women. SW or not. Condom or not. Kinda a rule.
She's up for heaps of sex but it might be time to punt this one and look for a younger model. Haha!
Member #4442
01-23-11, 23:27
First of all thank you all for your helpful posts. After watching some Japanese Dramas and getting to know the Japanese culture my interest for Japanese women went from 0 to 100% Now I have gone through most of the posts here and since I don't plan on travelling to Japan until a year I have decided to try my best to get either a FF or a GF from the internet. I made a profile on JC a week ago and updated it to a Gold membership, reading your recent reviews I'm not sure if I made a good choice there :P I have also updated my very old profile on Tagged and added some new photos and info there. As I see it there is no point in upgrading that membership, because there won't be anything new to give me more help with chatting up girls. Now I heard many good things about Mixi by you guys, so I decided to check it out. There was only one problem I faced, do all of you understand Japanese completely? Because trying to registrate on that site became a bigger problem that I thought. There is places where I can't copy what it says and make google translations help me understand it. I have thought about guessing myself through everything but then I might end up presented as a divorced guy with kids. Any tips on how I could get all these things translated?
Also I'm only 22 and it seems like that might be a problem, should I add some years on my age?
Thanks for any reply.
Well that was really easy. I guess because I only saw her twice or something but the problem remains.
Osaka and surrounding areas suck for tagged.
If you have better luck than me my advice is don't give them your real name and phone number. And taking them to you're place is scary as far as ideas go. I didn't. Its better not to do that.
Its probably callous to say this but the older chicks aren't very good when it comes down to it and too many issues going on in the background. Hatguy does say happy hunting tho.
Now I heard many good things about Mixi by you guys, so I decided to check it out. There was only one problem I faced, do all of you understand Japanese completely? Because trying to registrate on that site became a bigger problem that I thought. There is places where I can't copy what it says and make google translations help me understand it. I have thought about guessing myself through everything but then I might end up presented as a divorced guy with kids...Mixi is a Japanese language site. You probably shouldn't bother with it if you're not functional in Japanese. Also, the last time I checked registration required a Japanese mobile email address.
Member #4442
01-24-11, 22:02
Mixi is a Japanese language site. You probably shouldn't bother with it if you're not functional in Japanese. Also, the last time I checked registration required a Japanese mobile email address.Okey, arigato-gozaimasu.
I guess I should start learning the writing language too, in Japan most signs and stuff are not in english.
Another question, the girls you usually take out from internet, do they expect you to buy them all sorts of expensive stuff? I'm only a student so I'm not exactly rich and I feel like most of the women you find on at least Tagged, are between 30-40 and they seem to be looking for a guy to support them.
Forbidden Kid
01-28-11, 15:32
I wonder if anyone has ever tried this to nampa. I was there today since my friend and I are about to leave Osaka and he does not want to keep his Japanese yen so he is spending it on getting otaku stuff in these arcades. While he busies himself with those I tend to try to get some cute dolls like that Rirakkuma bears. Two of those girls in heavy makeup was spying on me trying to get it and once I succeeded they just squealing KAWAIIIIIII!
Now, since I am with my friend and I am dressed like a student (tidy and in nothing too outrageous like those host club guys) I decided to not approach them. But do you reckon I would have gotten an email address if I presented this said Kuma as a gift to one of them?
Also when I had the thought in my mind, the two girls multiplied to six.
I wonder if anyone has ever tried this to nampa. I was there today since my friend and I are about to leave Osaka and he does not want to keep his Japanese yen so he is spending it on getting otaku stuff in these arcades. While he busies himself with those I tend to try to get some cute dolls like that Rirakkuma bears. Two of those girls in heavy makeup was spying on me trying to get it and once I succeeded they just squealing KAWAIIIIIII!
Now, since I am with my friend and I am dressed like a student (tidy and in nothing too outrageous like those host club guys) I decided to not approach them. But do you reckon I would have gotten an email address if I presented this said Kuma as a gift to one of them?
Also when I had the thought in my mind, the two girls multiplied to six.Yes, you could definitely get the girl's e-mail / phone number this way if you speak some Japanese. If you don't then it could be a little difficult, all depending on her level of English.
NicFrenchy
02-14-11, 05:26
Hope this helps some guys out there. Geesh, lots of typing! LOL!I live in BKK and also am pretty successful with Tagged, however, I am playing the "Naughty boy" and many girls like it.
Following up on Little Jared's excellent report a little while back,
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=1102297&viewfull=1#post1102297
I saw this list in Kansai which is tempting. Of course anyone who wants to try one out before I do please TOFTT:
http://www.deai-cafe.net/kansai/index.html
Masquerade69
03-31-11, 15:37
I'm trying mixi and tagged.
On mixi I have been on it for a while but not used it because my japanese skills are too basic.
I need to know how to search properly as I'm sure its a gold mine with effort.
Will keep you guys updated.
Tagged has so much BS and a lot of coldness too. I think I waded through all the girls in tokyo already.
My profile isn't too bad with decent pics *perhaps too decent. As in I might not be as good looking in real life *well I have been told I am but hey. Personal confidence is another thing.
I have been told to hit up chicks I'm not that attracted to just to build up the confidence but I don't know if I can get it up. Anyone know where to buy some help in tokyo? Cialis I used before and was fun and useful
Little Jared
04-01-11, 14:06
Following up on Little Jared's excellent report a little while back,
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=1102297&viewfull=1#post1102297
I saw this list in Kansai which is tempting. Of course anyone who wants to try one out before I do please TOFTT:
http://www.deai-cafe.net/kansai/index.htmlI'll probably go check next time I'm in Osaka. Places are quite similar to each other, just slightly changes depending on the staff and location.
Unfortunately I'm sad to report that Kirara changed its business hours. Now closing to midnight, every night.
Staff guy told me this was because of a "new law" that says that "places like here" can't stay open after midnight.
Which puzzles me a bit, since that doesn't seem to apply to most of FHs next door in Kabukicho. Anyone heard of that?
But somehow it definitely impacted deai cafes, since other places (Kirari, Momo Cafe etc.) all followed. Sucks.
Good news is, the manager knows how uncool this makes his place look like, and came up with some interesting campaigns to try to keep it a fun place to come spend money to. So for instance, gyaku-nan (reversed nampa, girls choose boys) between 22:00 and closing time. Entry+talk+going out with girl for 3000 yen (don't get too excited, you still have to pay the girl)
So deai places are still interesting, even though I must say I didn't go much lately (found out about deai websites)
Azure Knight
04-02-11, 13:20
So deai places are still interesting, even though I must say I didn't go much lately (found out about deai websites)Mind sharing? I have yet to find a legit one.
On mixi I have been on it for a while but not used it because my japanese skills are too basic.
I need to know how to search properly as I'm sure its a gold mine with effort. The thing about mixi is that almost everyone is on it. So that helps increase your chances, but at the same time, you got to sort of fight to be noticed.
First up you should make your profile. Make sure you let people know you're not Japanese, as that will probably be your biggest selling point. You actually don't need a profile pic, and I would advise against it. I've actually met quite a few girls without ever exchanging pics, and it worked out quite well (some misses too of course). You may want to include something in your profile that will intrigue potential visitors. You know how to give an expert massage, you like to cook, you're looking for a Japanese tutor, etc.
Next you need to join some communities. There are a lot of sex-themed communities out there, but these are hit and miss. Plus, there are a lot of guys who are obviously fishing, and many of the users get vicious against that. There are other communities that aren't as sex oriented but have lots of users. You basically just want people to see you, so whatever works. Mine are a mix of the sex ones, some of the international friendship ones, and some random ones as well.
I personally don't message women. Not unless she's close and it seems like we'd be a good match. I'm sure girls on mixi get hit on all the time. I just post in communities, and let them message me. Trade messages on mixi for a few days, get their keitai email, work towards meeting up in person and then work it from there.
Masquerade69
04-04-11, 16:11
I do not have much Japanese ability so finding, posting on communities and getting replies be hard but I will definitely give it a go!
Thanks for those tips. I will try and see if I can spruce up my profile picture.
What about the quality of girls / women you are meeting? I have been quite picky in the past. I know I need to come back to earth on expectations.
There was one time for example on a p4p I really struggled. Chinese, just normal 5 out of 10 looking, tight body but not much in the chest area, I would say a B cup and I sooo struggled to get it up. CBJ didn't do too much and neither did hitting the hole so I just said look at the time, I have an appointment to keep and she kept saying 5 more minutes so I banged her again for a bit more then eventually left without shooting.
Hence the question for Cialis or some aide. Just in case.
"The thing about mixi is that almost everyone is on it. So that helps increase your chances, but at the same time, you got to sort of fight to be noticed.
First up you should make your profile. Make sure you let people know you're not Japanese, as that will probably be your biggest selling point. May want to include something in your profile that will intrigue potential visitors. You know how to give an expert massage, you like to cook, you're looking for a Japanese tutor, etc."
Next you need to join some communities. There are a lot of sex-themed communities out there, but these are hit and miss. Plus, there are a lot of guys who are obviously fishing, and many of the users get vicious against that. There are other communities that aren't as sex oriented but have lots of users. You basically just want people to see you, so whatever works. Mine are a mix of the sex ones, some of the international friendship ones, and some random ones as well.
I personally don't message women. Not unless she's close and it seems like we'd be a good match. I'm sure girls on mixi get hit on all the time. I just post in communities, and let them message me. Trade messages on mixi for a few days, get their keitai email, work towards meeting up in person and then work it from there.
I find the best option for meeting women for sex or relationships, whichever you are looking for, is metropolis. It is the best without fail. Most women are looking for the one but some also are looking for satisfaction with no strings.
http://classifieds.metropolis.co.jp/
AussieGaigin
04-16-11, 01:16
I find the best option for meeting women for sex or relationships, whichever you are looking for, is metropolis. It is the best without fail. Most women are looking for the one but some also are looking for satisfaction with no strings.
http://classifieds.metropolis.co.jp/I used Metropolis on my trips to TYO about 10 years ago, and it was a great resource back then when there not was not so much competion from the dozens of web sites, as now.
Good to hear that it is still working.
I used Metropolis on my trips to TYO about 10 years ago, and it was a great resource back then when there not was not so much competion from the dozens of web sites, as now.
Good to hear that it is still working. Same for me, ten years ago I went to japan and with metropolis I met several women in a few days of vaied ages, some of which were really good looking. I said I was giving language lessons, seems to work pretty well because it gives them an excuse to call with no strings attached.
One was a 28 Y/o surgeaon and we kissed in Gaspanic, i went to shibuya love hotel with a really nice 28Y/O teacher and also had sex with a 17Y/O schoolgirl (i was 21 and it was her first time, but she was really eager to try everthing).
Funny story, she now lives in Paris only a couple of metro stations away...
Same for me, ten years ago I went to japan and with metropolis I met several women in a few days of vaied ages, some of which were really good looking. I said I was giving language lessons, seems to work pretty well because it gives them an excuse to call with no strings attached.
One was a 28 Y / o surgeaon and we kissed in Gaspanic, I went to shibuya love hotel with a really nice 28Y / O teacher and also had sex with a 17Y / O schoolgirl (I was 21 and it was her first time, but she was really eager to try everthing).
Funny story, she now lives in Paris only a couple of metro stations away. There are a lot of hot milfs on that magazine.
Had one this week from the metropolis. She was looking for a very well endowed and sex after work. Perfect for me, NSA.
It took a lot of emails, lot of pics and hours of phone calls before I could get her to meet me. All I can say is fuckin A. Mether had dinner and straight to the love hotel. She was the perfect MILF. 47, a real head turner, spoke english, dressed real classy, obviously she is well to do, with short tight skirt, nice tight shirt. Very busty large with puffy aureola and big nipples and she loved having them sucked hard and long, with nice ass and an amazing hole. She was a squirter and wouldn't stop coming. Absolutely one the hottest women I ever met and the best fuck. I have a pretty big cock. 10 long and 6 around, its very difficult to find a woman that can take it for hours, a young girl can never handle it. She's a keeper. Have a once a week thing set up with her.
Met a hot MILF from tagged last weekend. She was an lbfm 35, couple kids divorced, typical tagged flip in japan story. A little crazy too. She kept saying she wanted to kill this person or that person.
Dinner and love hotel. She could take the meat and, dancer, had a nice body but she is probably going to turn into typical filipina stalker mode. Already 3 messages a day and phone calls.
Tagged is a good source but you really got to work them cause they are always getting hit on from guys not even in japan just wasting their time.
Cool that you got something off tagged. I'm working on one here in Osaka. It seems a lot of them come.
As mail order brides or similar and get tired of husbands bullshit. If you are lucky you can get some.
Majorly under sexed ladies off this site. The one I punted before was like that. We would go at it and both.
Of us would cum but she wanted more and more.
Drawbacks included me having to pay for everything and her clinginess.
On the whole though it was very good fun.
I've signed up, but not really pursued anything yet. I have about 30 "friends", seems like once you get momentum, they are easier to get. The only girl I spent time exchanging emails with, maybe 50 or so, abruptly ended our correspondence when I jokingly used the word "fxck", I wasn't referring to the act, in a mail. No problem, I was glad to know how crazy she was earlier than later.
Another pursued me, but I had a strong suspicion that she was a shemale, so I flat out asked, politely. Didn't hear back. A couple of guys have asked to friend me, I guess that is to be expected.
The whole pet thing creeped me out after I was "bought" a couple times, one woman one man, so I disabled that.
Anyway, there are only 20 or so people on there from my town, I've friended about half. I'm also keeping an eye on Nagoya, Tokyo, and the Kansai areas since I spend a few weekends at each every year. I'm not going to put too much energy into it, but keep an eye out and expect the unexpected. I WILL report, and keep up with you guys who are also using it.
I'm single, it seems like a harmless diversion, and it might lead to some fun.
On tagged too, My profile says it all. Married, looking for some fun. Ya be warned.
I know it greatly limits the opportunities but it saves me a lot of time and aggro. Can't be asked in dealing with crazy ladies who want a hubby.
Only a few friends there, working on them and maybe something good will happen.
So nampa has been slow for me lately. Thought I might have some luck with a few I'd met off tagged and another one off mixi. But as is the case for the most of these Osaka versions of message boards they fizzled out. Or so it would seem.
I read with interest about the MILFs around. That would be fun. Especially one thats not all clingy and demands emotional support or whatever.
Mixi has been especially dry! One 30s girl wanted me to meet her but it had to be with her friends. Kind of like the KOMPA social meeting thing. Ie. No chance in hell of sitting next to her and putting some moves together! I asked her to meet me outside of that and the message was VERY clear: She won't go out at night! This pissed me off so I told her I wasnt interested in her at all.
So I'm rethinking my strategies now. I'm not into the club scene and kinda a bit too old for Pure or something like that. P4P makes sense but its just so draining on the wallet! A healthy mixture of the two makes the most sense.
Man, I was worried about how things would be going especially since the recent natural disasters and radiation warnings. I was assuming foreigners would be pushed out as the locals try to re-emphasize National pride and being purely Japanese. Obviously this is a hard time for anyone and everyone but it is good to read that it is not as polarizing as I had assumed it would be. That said as always Japan forum is a good resource as I did not know about tagged until reading this forum.
Unfortunately won't be in Japan for at least another year and even then my pool maybe limited but might as well prepare some bait. However as I get older (28 years) I have noticed more questions about marriage from both (18-25) younger and older women (30+) internationally (I travel between Africa, USA and China though haven't tried anything in China).
I think this probably belongs under Classified Ads. Nice site, but it seems to take forever to load pages. And for what it's worth, I think if most guys wanted to be nagged about their drinking, body order, sexual habits and cleaning their place up they would just get a real girlfriend. Good luck.
I would like to introduce myself. My name is Misa. I am a single beautiful, elegant sophisticated Japanese woman. I was born and raised in Yokohama, Japan. I am 29 years old. I speak excellent English. I have a TOEIC 950 and I am a university graduate from a prestigious woman's University in Japan. I have also studied in the US and UK. I love to wine and dine, art appreaciation, watch foreign movies and travel.
Backtobasics
05-27-11, 22:42
I think this probably belongs under Classified Ads. Nice site, but it seems to take forever to load pages. And for what it's worth, I think if most guys wanted to be nagged about their drinking, body order, sexual habits and cleaning their place up they would just get a real girlfriend. Good luck.I agree, and I think if you halved your rates you might get more interest. With your current rates, and extreme requirements of your gentlemen, you almost qualify as a dominatrix.
If I visit you your hotel room / Condo it must be tidy and clean. If you have poor oral hygiene or body odor, please do not contact me.1. This is an ad, so it belongs in classified.
2. You page didn't load after 5 min so I gave up.
3. Tidy condo requirement sounds like a wife or GF, not a callgirl.
Gave it a first tried at kyoto station few days ago.
Saw a lady when I was waiting for a friend, after met with the friend and was hanging around at the station. Saw the lady again. She seems to be alone, and was looking at the menu in front of a restaurant.
She's in her mid-thirties, decent looking, well dressed, and I approached her and asked whether she mind if I buy her a meal. After intro myself, she agreed.
Talked a lot during the meal, and I kinda feel the vibe.
Then I got a problem. I dunno what shall I say next. Go for dessert? Or go shopping? Or tea? (or I want to shag you?)
We then chat and chat and I asked you want to change place to carry on or? Then she said she has to go and left me her email.
And I spent another couple of hours sitting out there looking at those school girls and ols.
What did I do wrong? And what shall I do next?
O well, that's my experience, just thought I shall share here.
Evan Stoner
05-30-11, 15:47
I hope that everyone who agrees this is an advert and belongs in the classifieds section is clicking the "Report Post" link and letting the administrator know. Otherwise, this nonsense continues.
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Things worked out for me with a recent girl I met off an online classified. She is not serious at all about it and neither am I. A great arrangement! All Ill say is that she is horny as hell and everything is on the table. I'm really happy because I was starting to think that Osaka was a bit of a lost cause in this regard!
AussieGaigin
06-02-11, 10:20
Gave it a first tried at kyoto station few days ago.
Then I got a problem. I dunno what shall I say next. Go for dessert? Or go shopping? Or tea? (or I want to shag you?)
We then chat and chat and I asked you want to change place to carry on or? Then she said she has to go and left me her email.
What did I do wrong? And what shall I do next?
O well, that's my experience, just thought I shall share here. You got off to a good start, but let it slip.
Rule 1:
Don't ask them what they want to do. They are inquisiitive enough to accept your offer, but don't know how to handle foreigners either, for fear of offending them. Tell them what you want to do and let them tag along.
Rule 2:
If you miss out on the first attempt, you probably won't get offered a second. Be positive.
Good luck for next time.
You got off to a good start, but let it slip.
Rule 1:
Don't ask them what they want to do. They are inquisiitive enough to accept your offer, but don't know how to handle foreigners either, for fear of offending them. Tell them what you want to do and let them tag along.
Rule 2:
If you miss out on the first attempt, you probably won't get offered a second. Be positive.
Good luck for next time.Thanks mate,
Yeah after I asked what she wanted to do, the whole atmosphere changes and I knew I failed.
And yeah you are right, she is ignoring my mails now.
I shall try again, will never give up.
Thanks again mate.
Here's what I did in a recent successful nampa:
Met her close by a J style bar I know. Cheap and good. I said we should drink by taking her there and yes she put down 3 cocktails. After she got back from a bathroom break I asked her where next. The answer was UP TO YOU. ANYWHERE OK.
Now this means she's drunk and game enough for anything. Take it as gospel that you will be banging her if she says this. Hell walk her to the nearest love hotel and prance in like you own the place.
Confidence and more confidence. Just do it.
AussieGaigin
06-04-11, 09:27
Now this means she's drunk and game enough for anything. Take it as gospel that you will be banging her if she says this. Hell walk her to the nearest love hotel and prance in like you own the place.
Confidence and more confidence. Just do it. She doesn't have / need to be drunk to get to this stage. I've had plenty like this sober.
The hardest thing is being in a strange area when an opportunity unexpectedly presents itself, and you don't know where the good bars or LHs are located.
A G
MachineHead1234
06-04-11, 18:17
Not forgetting gentlemen, that end of the day, she may not neccesarily fancy a quickie with us gaijins. At the risk of sounding pessimistic, we cannot discount that, even if Rule 1 is adhered to. Gaijins are as out of fashion here, as last season's LV bag.
What I feel to get around this, is tell her where you are going off next (make it sound you are a busy man about town) , perhaps then meeting up later for dinner WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR BUSINESS. This creates value and make you appear busy and perhaps could just accomodate her for a quick dinner if you deem fit. You call the shots here, not her.
To me, even if she is not tagging along or giving off any positive IOIs, her loss NOT MINE. Got better things to do in life. Sounds arrogant but a pussy is just not worth wasting too much time pondering over what's lost.
You got off to a good start, but let it slip.
Rule 1:
Don't ask them what they want to do. They are inquisiitive enough to accept your offer, but don't know how to handle foreigners either, for fear of offending them. Tell them what you want to do and let them tag along.
Rule 2:
If you miss out on the first attempt, you probably won't get offered a second. Be positive.
Good luck for next time.
Hi all. I am new in this forum. Maybe it has been a lot of discussing of this topic before but I ask it anyway. Are there any particular bars or nightclubs in Tokyo where japanese girls go to meet foreign men? I have read something about a place called 'Gaspanic'. Is it still something happening there? And how easy or difficult is it to find some pussy in that kind of places? I am a white decent looking man around 30 years old.
AussieGaigin
06-04-11, 23:51
Not forgetting gentlemen, that end of the day, she may not neccesarily fancy a quickie with us gaijins. At the risk of sounding pessimistic, we cannot discount that, even if Rule 1 is adhered to. Gaijins are as out of fashion here, as last season's LV bag.
What I feel to get around this, is tell her where you are going off next (make it sound you are a busy man about town) , perhaps then meeting up later for dinner WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR BUSINESS. This creates value and make you appear busy and perhaps could just accomodate her for a quick dinner if you deem fit. You call the shots here, not her.
To me, even if she is not tagging along or giving off any positive IOIs, her loss NOT MINE. Got better things to do in life. Sounds arrogant but a pussy is just not worth wasting too much time pondering over what's lost. There are no "set rules" for nampa. Every opportunity has to be assessed on its own merits. You will certainly get a percentage of failures / rejections, but this part of the sport.
A good nampa practitioner can usually assess his chances within a few minutes of the first "get together", then decide whether, and how, to proceed further.
She doesn't have / need to be drunk to get to this stage. I've had plenty like this sober.
The hardest thing is being in a strange area when an opportunity unexpectedly presents itself, and you don't know where the good bars or LHs are located.
A GMaybe I could have done this without booze. I don't know but in this case it worked with it.
I'm all for trying this without alcohol. I drink way too much anyway.
Member #3439
06-05-11, 21:06
I think I know some swingers in Tokyo, but am not so sure they are swingers. Can you guys advise me, based on your cultural understanding, as to whether you think I should try meeting up with these people again during my short upcoming visit to Tokyo. Here's what I know about them:
I was in Otsuka in March of last year, and had just finished a FS session at a nearby Chinese estute, so I stopped off at a yakitori place for food. I ordered a tea, and the 40-ish Japanese couple next to me ordered at the same time. The waitress brought me what looked like tea, and I started drinking it. Then I realized that it was tea with shochu and there was some mistake. The woman next to me started laughing and said in broken English that it was her drink. Then the couple started talking to me in broken English about just normal things, and buying me lots of sake. After a while, I was pretty drunk, but they weren't. Then they invited me to come to their apartment nearby in Ikebukuro. So we left and I went to the apartment. When we got there, they made a point of telling me I was the first foreigner to ever come to their place. Once inside, the guy started giving me shots of rare old scotches from his collection and the woman was making snacks for me. I know it's a little bizzare for a Japanese couple to invite a foreigner to the house, especially one that they just met. And basically it was fairly clear to me that they were trying to get me totally intoxicated. I was wondering where this was going, are they swingers or something, and from the Japanese perspective what is the motivation for wanting a strange, now drunken gaijin in your house? Unfortunately I had to leave to catch the last train back to Yokohama and I never found out. They gave me a bottle of really good wine as a gift, and I left.
Later I emailed the guy and told him that I had a good time with him and his wife, and thanked them for inviting me to their house. He emailed back and told me to contact them the next time I am in Tokyo, and 'lets get drunk. ' So I am wondering if I should spend some of my upcoming short precious day in Tokyo hooking up with these 2 again. I am thinking they were after something, and I have a good chance of screwing this guys wife if I hook up with them again. What do you guys think?
I was wondering where this was going, are they swingers or something, and from the Japanese perspective what is the motivation for wanting a strange, now drunken gaijin in your house?
I am thinking they were after something, and I have a good chance of screwing this guys wife if I hook up with them again. What do you guys think? They were after an international experience, not sex. They enjoyed your company enough to invite you back to their place. Rare, however if they have travelled overseas they may have experienced similar treatment and enjoyed it.
If they want a 3-some with you, there will be more obvious hints than just drinks at home. Questions about your sex life would be be a starting point if that is the case. Asking them about theirs might end the friendship, although if you both are drunk enough you might ask the guy (while the wife is out of the room) about sex in Japan as a general topic and see where that takes you.
Member #3439
06-06-11, 06:14
They were after an international experience, not sex. They enjoyed your company enough to invite you back to their place. Rare, however if they have travelled overseas they may have experienced similar treatment and enjoyed it.
If they want a 3-some with you, there will be more obvious hints than just drinks at home. Questions about your sex life would be be a starting point if that is the case. Asking them about theirs might end the friendship, although if you both are drunk enough you might ask the guy (while the wife is out of the room) about sex in Japan as a general topic and see where that takes you. Thanks. I asked whether they had been overseas and they said no. I played it really cool at the time because I got the sense that they viewed me as some kind of novelty and I understand the concept of Japanese 'international experience'. It's just different. Where I live, in the US, if that kind of thing happens it means somebody wants sex. The risks of bringing a stranger to the home are high, so the payoff has to be big. 30% chance that Mr. Niceguy from the bar turns nasty at the house and robs you, attacks you, or tries to blackmail you somehow.
When we met, they asked why I was in Otsuka, and commented on it being strange for a foreigner to stop there. Of course I didn't tell them that I came there for banging Chinese chicks down the street. I'll email them and see what happens. I get a kick out of the Japanese idea of international experience; it is ironic. Japanese corporations seem to own about half the assets in the world, yet average Japanese on the street know very little of foreign countries or people. I can tell a simple story of some experience in Rio or Jakarta and the Japanese people are captivated. My Japanese colleagues tell me that they had an international experience in San Francisco. I ask, where did you go? They say they hung out in the Japantown and it was great. Others say they go to Hawaii for an international experience, and that it is great in Hawaii because it is easy to find Japanese food and Japanese-speaking people. Haha. That would be like a Westerner coming to Tokyo for an experience, and hanging out in Roppongi the whole time. 'Yeah, Japan was great, the Outback is just like the Outback at home, it was easy to find English speaking people, and the Irish bars were really nice!' ;)
The risks of bringing a stranger to the home are high, so the payoff has to be big. 30% chance that Mr. Niceguy from the bar turns nasty at the house and robs you, attacks you, or tries to blackmail you somehow.' ;)I see where you are coming from but I can also sense that it is risky for the foreigner to follow an unknown couple in their apartment and get discreetly drunk or with sensorial self-defense lowered by the alcohol.
Thanks. I asked whether they had been overseas and they said no. I played it really cool at the time because I got the sense that they viewed me as some kind of novelty and I understand the concept of Japanese 'international experience'.It could have been a way in between.
Maybe the couple wished to have some experience, a stranger is ideal as no strings attached afterwards (comes and goes) , but not feeling too strong on it and maybe over-shy ("wish but not working hard to make the wish real").
Maybe unexperienced on how to deal to make it happen in a nice way.
Was there any "hidden" signal from the husband or from the lady, apart the fact the talks did not seem to head toward sex in general (and that could be a starter)?
It is also true that for many japanese (heavy) drinking is a big thing just for the sake (no pun intended) to get drunk. And you gave them a good opportunity.
How many white collars go out of the office and patronize drinking holes and at 10pm you see them fully drunk in the bar area?
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