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Mel365
12-12-10, 20:47
I believe the going rate is now about 50 in all clubs, I don't like to negociate as the service declines if you do.

At most of the clubs the room rate is for 20-30 minutes, one hour is usually double the rate. I usually go with Julisa at 4 pm when the chicas stop working and can spend a lot of time without any room charge. It was the same at Defiance. There is also no animosity with the other chica that shares the room since she can not work in her room with another monger.

Mel

Ath Trainer
12-12-10, 21:11
Mel / Buck / Zing / Pogo / Everyone,

Thanks for the updates, guys. This is really helpful.

Mel,

When I visited the island a year ago, the room fee at Defiance was 10 dollars on weekend nights and 5 dollars the rest of the week (after 4 pm). So this has changed to 10 dollars EVERY night now?

One year ago the rates were:

- Carolina / Seaman's: 50 + 3.

- Defiance: 40 + 10 (5)

For 30mnts of CBJ / CFS.

When I was on the island last summer, I did 3 sessions at El Capt. I would pay the room fee on the way in, for the amount of time I expected to be in the room. If we exceeded the time that we paid for, no knock. Just paid the extra fee on the way out.

Are these rates still good?

If you stayed 60 mnts, you needed to pay additonal 3 dollars as room fee at Carolina / Seaman's. I do not recall paying double room fee for 60 mnts at Defiance. What is your experience, guys?

Does any of the clubs practice the annoying "knock-on-door-time-is-up" parody any more?

Lovin Chicas
12-14-10, 15:30
She told me she was leaving on the 28th of Dec.

Lovin Chicas
12-14-10, 16:09
I was on the island for one week at the beginning of Dec.

The overall selection at the clubs was the worst (completely sucked) that I have seen in my last 13 trips (over 3 yrs) to the island.

Tanya from Captain was the only pure 10 spinner I saw at all clubs including sunset retreat.

Captain always charges $10 to get in the room in the evenings (There is no negotiation to that). Tanya wanted $50, so I did not negotiate, because there was nothing else that I wanted to touch there! You can negotiate down to $40, but not worth the trouble with the current quality!

Always negotiate price before going to the room! Then you will never be scammed. Just expect to pay more if you stay for more than 30 minutes!

Seaman's had one spinner.

Carolina's had two spinners.

Sunset had one taller girl that was cute, but tall girls are not my style (I like them short, skinny, small ass, medium or more breasts).

Petite none.

Casa blanca had one spinner.

I am used to doing atleast 15-20 different girls from Seamans and Carolina's during the week (2-5 from the other clubs) , but as you can see, I was stuck with just 4!

So as you can see I was stuck to only a choice of 6 girls. The only other time I did that few of girls is when I came only to see a novia for the whole week. I still snuck out and did 5 other girls during that week!

So my final analyst is that quality is not good now. If you have not booked your trip yet, I would wait to go to the island until Feb or Mar.

Girls from any clubs can complain about you not paying enough if you do not negotiate upfront. They think if they complain, that you may cave in and give them more money. In the past, I have had girls from all clubs complain that I did not give them a tip! I do not just tip any girl, because then the price will go up next time I am on the island.

I would only tip for GFE!

Good luck to all, and hope quality is better for you!

LC.


My delayed report.

I arrived on a Tuesday. That evening I went to El Capitan. I was not very impressed with the selection. I saw about 12 chicas and none were too impressive. I sat and had a drink. I was approached by a few gals. One gal was interesting and I let her try to sell me—she made me rock hard. I asked how much. She wanted $60. I told her it was too much. I said $40. She essentially told me I was crazy. She kept making willie happy thinking I would cave. No dice. I picked up and walked right out. Her loss, cause the place was dead.

I then went over to Carolina. The place was busier. Again I was approached by a few less-than-my-types. I did see one spinner. I had her come over to me. As soon as I saw her up close, she looked like she was 40 years old, a bit too scary in the face. I lost all interest so I bought her a drink and sent her on her way. So, after about 40 minutes of not seeing anything of interest I went back to my hotel.

Wednesday night I went back to El Capitan and never saw that spinner mentioned by others so I moved onward. I think this is when I was going to try Carolinas again and Arch Road was all torn up in construction so I thought I would investigate Seamans. I never walked into the place since I had luck at the other places.

Seamans had a huge variety in ladies and several gems. I was first approached by Angie. She spoke perfect English, which scared me but she was very pretty in the face and her body was nice. I knew I should stay away from the English speaking chicas but she was cute. In the end I agreed to $50 plus the $3 room fee. When I got in the room I found a fair room but an amazing mattress. Wow I could screw on that mattress all night. She was ok in bed but she wanted me to do a lot of the work. When I was leaving a couple of guys (Hi guys, if your reading) were talking in the parking lot and asked me how my chica was. We stood in the parking lot for about 45 minutes and chatted about the hobby. It was nice to meet them and later on I see one on Friday. (I'll call him T)

Thursday is a blur. I forget what happened that night. I got to lay off the alcohol.

Friday I went into El Capitan looking for the spinner, again. I didn't see her so as I was about to leave. Then I see this guy waving me down. T waved me over and he had one girl on each arm. With in seconds one of his girls was on my lap making herself at home. Her name was Lisa or Leza (something like that). She was a light skin Dominican. I never had one of those before. She had a decent body and natural Bs. She was no spinner but nice enough for a lay. Me and T talked for a while and had a few drinks while the girls tried to get us into the room. Eventfully we agreed it was time to do the deed. When I got up the window she said I needed $10 for the room. WTF? I said 3 and she said 10. That went on for about 20 seconds while T was patiently waiting for me to pay. I caved so I didn't look bad. (It only gets worse from here.) As soon as we get in the room she is naked and ready to put a condom on me. Damn woman is trying to make it a race. She didn't bother to go in the bathroom to wash up. Just a quick wipe and she was down to business. I didn't like that so I made sure I used up every single second of my 30 minutes. I have good self-control to keep my self from blowing my load too soon and she was getting impatient. When I was done & all dressed she wanted $60 and I told her she already got 10 and was try to tell me that she got none of that. Bull-crap! I told her I only pay $40. (I guess this teaches me from not negotiating in advance.) In the end I showed her I only had $50 on me and she was disappointed and took it and was complaining. I WILL NEVER EVER enter El Capitan ever again. The women are greedy and try to scam you out of your money. They will try to get you for $10 for the room when it is only $3 and they are only out to take your money. You are WARNED! If they try to pull this on you, turn around and walk out. I am surprised the owner permits this to happen. It is bad for business. I recommend you ask the chica how much the room is. If she tell you $10 just walk out. You are about to be ripped off. Side note observation: this also explains why the place is pretty empty verses Seamans was packed.

Back to my report after I got back into the bar section of El Capitans the girl I was with wanted me to buy her a drink. HAAAA, I said I gave you plenty of money to buy your own. She didn't like that answer so she walked away. T and I went on to Seamans to see what talent was there. It was busy and T had a lot of girls that said Hi to him. I wanted to chat with him some more but the girls where getting between us (splitting the heard) so they can get us to a room. In the end I left and he stayed to tap another chica.

Saturday, on my way to the airport, I drove past a Carolina to get a picture for you all. I was taking a picture and the guy sitting out front was upset that I either took a picture of him or the entrance. (so I edited him out and the two cars.)

The other picture I plan to attach is of Le Petit's Chateau new exterior. Sorry for the bad photo, I was driving and the car behind me wouldn't let me slow down. Plus IF I stopped in the parking lot, I was afraid the guy I just took a picture of was going to hop in his car and catch me.

The End.

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Mel365
12-14-10, 20:43
Lovin Chicas,

Are you sure Tanya is leaving on December 28?

If so that will be great as Olga starts on January 3-4 and I did not need any conflicts at El Capitan.

Tanya, really gets into the mood after a few sessions, a 10 in bed.

Mel

Lovin Chicas
12-15-10, 04:45
My spanish is not good, but she is definitely leaving the 28th! I took it that it was Dec. I believe that she would have asked me when I was coming back if she meant any other month. All the chicas do.


Lovin Chicas,

Are you sure Tanya is leaving on December 28?

If so that will be great as Olga starts on January 3-4 and I did not need any conflicts at El Capitan.

Tanya, really gets into the mood after a few sessions, a 10 in bed.

Mel

Mel365
12-15-10, 06:36
I am having trouble accessing my private mail. Sometimes I can get on and others I do ot see the link.

Am I doing something wrong?

Mel

Zing23
12-16-10, 01:00
The road work to repair the roads to / by carolina is about done. The roads are open and much improved.

Carolinas and seamans have many new girls, but also many girls are leaving this week and next week, to get home for Christmas.

There were 6 cruise ships today and carolnas was packed with guys. But the girls told me that this does not always translate into a lot more trips to the room. Sometimes the guys just waste the girl's time with a beer and chat for 30 minutes or more. I had 3 sessions in the afternoon, no problem getting a free room immediately. But lunch service in the restaurant can get very slow on these busy days!

By the way, I never negotiate price and or service before going to the room. Sometimes I pay for 1 hour upfront $6, sometimes just 30 minutes $3, mostly depending on my schedule. I spend a lot of time on the preliminaries, warming us up. If the girl does not volunteer the services that I want, I don't ask for them. $50 is not much to spend for a fun half-hour with a pretty naked girl, even in you never consummate the service. I just make some excuse, terminate the session at 30 minutes and leave on friendly terms. I almost never complain. If I like what is happening, I just extend the time to an hour or more. With this strategy I get new girls to offer me every service that I want, at least 1 per week added to my list. And I expect to get everything, anal being optional but also offered occasionally. Being confident, speaking spanish, being considerate and tender, it seems to work for me.

I am not young and hot looking, but I do have money to spend. If you are on a tight budget, spending $50 to check out a girl may not be an option for you.

-zing

Mel365
12-16-10, 09:52
Thanks for the update, Nice report.

Will you be around in January, I still can not access my Pm. Are you having the same problem? Please pm me. I will be in Sxm & Colomombia then.

Did they fix the strange detour at Cole bay?

See ya Mel

Zing23
12-23-10, 22:54
The girls at Carolinas have Christmas day off. A lot of them plan to go to the beach. It could be the same at other clubs. Normally the latina girls get a day off on Christmas and Easter.

-zing

Jackzonian
12-24-10, 18:37
Merry Christmas fellow mongers. Hope all is well for those lucky enough to be in Sxm these days!

Last time I visited I had a time-share, the Sapphire Hotel at Cupecoy. It was great but I may not get it again and I'm planning a trip. I read the F forum but I couldn't find the post about the less expensive hotels, in particular the guest house on the hillside going into Philippsburg.

Can somebody remind me? Is it the "Holland House?" Or the "Horizon View?" It's a nice place inside the hills not far from the town entrance, right?

Otherwise, what do mongers recommend these days for $100 or less rooms. I found the Joshua Guest House a little TOO run down and too much in the center, the same for the Seaview.

Look forward to the recommendations. I don't need water view but I need to save a few buck-a-roos.

Jack

Scatqueens
12-25-10, 01:50
sorry for the delay; actually sonia was not that fat, but compared to the other beauties, she seems less skinny. very gentle anyways.


sonia got fat?

Mel365
12-25-10, 05:11
Hi,

I have stayed at holland houe, nice place on the boardwalk, nice beach, chica friendly.

What club is Sophia working at and what does she look like?

Happy Mongering / Holidays.

Mel

J Long
12-25-10, 05:51
What club is Sophia working at and what does she look like?

Happy Mongering / Holidays.

Mel[/QUOTE]I was in SXM Nov 24 thru 30th and there were 2 Sophia's at Seaman's. One tall big tits and in her mid 30's. Pushy, seemed to be drinking more than most. The other who I spent time with is short, firm, and athletic 25 to 28 anos, jet black mid length hair usually pulled back tight. Great smile & teeth not pushy. She is not fat but not thin. Someone one bought her a ring that she seemed fond of. I just went for perfume. I arrive back Sunday but only for 3 days and I plan to see her. So if she is the same one you're thinking of Mel don't take her TLN Sunday, Monday or Tuesday night please.

JL

Mel365
12-25-10, 20:50
Ok,

She is all yours have fun.

Mel

J Long
12-26-10, 01:36
Ok,

She is all yours have fun.

MelSnowing up and down east coast of USA not sure my flight will get there. But I am trying and thanks for being a good sport.

JL

Waterworld
12-26-10, 03:20
2 questions (St Maarten)

First, is there a way to have a girl come back to your hotel instead of doing business in the brothel?

Second, which spot as of lately has the best looking chicks lately? (also prefer light skin, or European girls)

Thanks

Mel365
12-26-10, 07:47
All the chicas will spend the night with youu from 250-500 dollars.

The Clubs with predominanyly light skinned Colombianas and Dominicanas are Carolinas, El Capitan, and Seamans. I really would not pass on a darker skinned chica. Some of the hottest chicas I have been with are Morena or darker. There are very few if any europeans.

Mel

Waterworld
12-26-10, 21:26
Mel, thanks.

I should clarify, I wasn't really meaning the whole night, but maybe an hour or two.

Ill try those 3 clubs, but do you or anyone else have a suggestion for (light skin, in shape, and young (legal of course) sorry to sound picky, but I know what I like. LOL.

Oh yea and if there is any "locals" type of bars you could suggest.

Mel365
12-27-10, 02:19
I would forget the local bars. You will spend a lot of time and $$$ for possibly a little sex.

Your best bet would be to pay the 50 dollar fine and take a chica out of Carolinas for the afternoon. 1:30-4pm.

Plus a few hundred for the chica. Carolinas has the highest percentage of white chicas. If there are a lot of cruise ships in, it might cost you more.

Mel

Zing23
12-30-10, 01:03
Today between 330pm and 345pm an ugly incident occured right outside the gate of Seamans Club. When I came out of the building at 345pm, I saw a guy lying in the street outside the gate. He appeared to be a crew member from on of the cruise ships and his crew mates and taxi drivers looked on. Then the police arrived with sirens blaring and blocked the exit road with yellow crime scene tape.

According to chatter among the girls and clients, the guy was attacked by robbers as he left club area. They either shot him or knifed him. When the ambulance arrived, the paramedics worked on an injury on his lower back. Bloody.

As they lifted him into the ambulance on a gurney, he raised his hand and waved to his co-workers!

The cops kept everyone bottled inside the club compound for about an hour and a half. Then removed the crime scene tape.

-zing

Jbonhomm1987
12-30-10, 05:03
Just read that a chica was forced into bare back sex at a hotel. Is this true and what club is she from.

Mel365
12-30-10, 05:16
The owner of El Capitan told me that the driveway was dangerous as did a chief inspector of police. I am very surprised to hear it happened inbroad daylight. It could been one of us.

I will continue to drive.

I am glad you missed the attack.

Mel

Mel365
12-30-10, 05:17
Today between 330pm and 345pm an ugly incident occured right outside the gate of Seamans Club. When I came out of the building at 345pm, I saw a guy lying in the street outside the gate. He appeared to be a crew member from on of the cruise ships and his crew mates and taxi drivers looked on. Then the police arrived with sirens blaring and blocked the exit road with yellow crime scene tape.

According to chatter among the girls and clients, the guy was attacked by robbers as he left club area. They either shot him or knifed him. When the ambulance arrived, the paramedics worked on an injury on his lower back. Bloody.

As they lifted him into the ambulance on a gurney, he raised his hand and waved to his co-workers!

The cops kept everyone bottled inside the club compound for about an hour and a half. Then removed the crime scene tape.

-zing

Lucky Strike
12-30-10, 06:07
Lucky guy. If one were to pick a body part where the gunshot would cause the least damage, butt is the place. Could have been much worse.

http://www.smn-news.com/st-maarten-st-martin-news/5503-ships-crew-member-shot-in-the-butt-during-armed-robbery-updated.html

I often saw the locals "checking out" semi-drunk tourists who parked their car outside of the fence. And that was after midnight. But in that alley and in the middle of the day. That's new.

Ath Trainer
12-30-10, 12:20
Lucky guy. If one were to pick a body part where the gunshot would cause the least damage, butt is the place. Could have been much worse.

http://www.smn-news.com/st-maarten-st-martin-news/5503-ships-crew-member-shot-in-the-butt-during-armed-robbery-updated.html

I often saw the locals "checking out" semi-drunk tourists who parked their car outside of the fence. And that was after midnight. But in that alley and in the middle of the day. That's new. Read the comments after the article. Not one talks about the sex industry being the cause of the incident. In the USA, every comment would have blamed the bars w / hookers for attracting the robbers. Instead, they want to make it safer, so we can still spend our money on the chicas.

PogoStick
12-30-10, 15:13
On my last trip my chica at Seaman's was very upset when she found out that I had parked in the overflow lot. She said it was very dangerous and I should only park within the walls. She insisted that she and a security guy escort me to my car, which was right by the pass-through gate. At the time I thought she was sweet and was just being a bit over cautious since I always parked there with no problems. I guess she knew what she was talking about. A lot of tourists will not report a robbery near a sex club in fear that their family will find out. They just cut their losses and keep quiet.

Also, one night as I drove past Carolina's I saw a security guy wanding everyone with a metal detector as they entered the building.

I think it would be a good idea for all of the clubs to make a very big show of increased security. Let's face it, our beloved clubs are all in one of the worst parts of the island. If the clubs want continuing tourist and crewmember business they have to provide a safe place so everyone is happy and comfortable.

I'll still go there and will still hit the casas. But I think we all need to be very security conscious. Personally, I'll only carry enough cash in a throw-down wallet to cover the chicas and not much else. If I can not park within the walls, or within sight of security, I'll try the next club.

Crime in SXM is getting to be a real problem. There are armed robberies happening on an almost daily basis all over the island. Several jewelry stores have been robbed in the last year, usually when there is so much traffic that Front street is like a parking lot. Meaning that police will have a very difficult time responding to an alarm.

Hopefully the new government will take serious action on this problem. Without tourism, SXM is dead. They can't even go back to salt mining since the salt pond is blocked from the sea.

For mongers in the Caribbean, Campo in Curacao is probably the safest venue. Security is plentiful and conspicuous both inside and outside the club. I think that of all the places in the world that I have pursued our hobby, Campo is the only place where I can really relax. The only thing I have to guard while there is my heart. Some of the chicas can steal a piece of your heart in just an evening.

If the clubs in SXM can step up to the plate and be as safe and secure as Campo, it would actually be a step in the right direction for the whole island. If the government can't or won't do it, the people must do it themselves.

Mel, you know most of the owners. Plant a bug in their ears for us!

Pogo.


The owner of El Capitan told me that the driveway was dangerous as did a chief inspector of police. I am very surprised to hear it happened inbroad daylight. It could been one of us.

I will continue to drive.

I am glad you missed the attack.

Mel

Zing23
12-30-10, 19:41
Crew member shot:

http://www.thedailyherald.com/islands/1-islands-news/11892-ship-crew-member-shot-in-attempted-robbery.html

He was taking the shortcut alley from carolinas to seamans club when attackeed.

-zing

Mel365
12-31-10, 04:40
Pogo,

The owner of el Captm, petite, and Defiance, is retired police. He has infra red and normal cameras everywhere but in the rooms, parking lots and all his property recorded on tape.

Carolinas has at least 20 cameras some exceptionally well hidden, they cover the club and all the parking areas.

I always look for the security guard and make freinds with him at night and give him $5. 00.

If I hapen to be on island without my boat, I might stay at Holand house, I also pay the security guard at Bobys marina to walk down the boardwalk with me.

Just remember to use normal street rules when on vacation and you wil not have a problem.

Many tourists forget security when away from home. A few years ago the owner of a circus was killed in broad daylight.

Entering a bank in phillipsburg. It is just the luck of the draw.

Mel

Shark16
12-31-10, 16:03
Here is an interesting interview with our poor fellow mongerer hearing his version of the incident: http://www.thedailyherald.com/islands/1-islands-news/11943-shot-cruise-member-recounts-horrifying-robbery-attempt.html

I found the following of interest:
- It took place in the alley.
- The alley is not visible from the public road.
- The shot was probably made because someone was heading down the alley to the robber and the victim - surprising and scaring the robber.
- "Robberies are frequent in that particular area and in the particular alleyway" according to one of the neighbours.

Funny, as I have walked this shortcut between Seaman's and Carolina so many times - day and night - without any fear. As parking sometimes can be difficult, walking the shortcut through the alley always seemed as a good alternative. But no more, I guess. From now on I will follow Mel's good advice.

I think Pogo is making a very good point on security. Club owners in SXM must take this seriously and invest in more security and parking space around the clubs. Safety IS an issue for many when picking a mongering destination, and the club owners will quickly lose money if they don't. Right now Campo sounds like the better alternative in the Caribbean ...

Happy New Year to everyone, and in particular to our fellow partner hospitalized in SXM right now. Hope everything turns out to the better for you.

Ath Trainer
12-31-10, 16:48
Celebration Florida, home of Walt Disney, had 2 separate murders recently. These are their first homicides ever, I believe. Does that mean that we should no longer go to "the happiest place on earth" (other than SXM brothels, LOL)?

I never feel unsafe going into these places. I park in a smart, proper location, and go right in. When I am done, I go right to my car, and leave. I don't talk to strangers, I don't over drink, and always am aware of my whereabouts. I use this same philosophy when I am back home in the states. Walking an alley by yourself, isolated from others, heading to a brothel in another country? Come on man! That would be like going bareback with a girl right after Magic Johnson. You should always monger with your big head, especially before the pussy comes into the picture.

PogoStick
01-02-11, 15:01
While I do understand the concept, comparing Disney to brothels is a stretch. Brothels are MUCH happier places!

However, there are some people that will hear of a murder in New York and decide not to visit the US at all. It's like Jamaica with the highest murder rate in this hemisphere. But statistically, the tourist areas of Jamaica are actually much safer than tourist areas of SXM. Yet tourists are on guard in Jamaica and let their guard down in SXM. It is all perception.

Brothels are perfect recipes for crime. In most places, adult entertainment clubs are located in marginal to rough neighbor hoods. Mix alcohol into the blood and move it all to the little head and your ability to reason goes away. Pockets are full of cash to pay the ladies. Add in the embarrassment factor that will keep many victims from reporting a crime and you have a perfect environment for a bad guy to operate with good chance of getting away with it. It's just a fact we have to live with.

Street smarts and local knowledge go a long way towards making the hobby safer. I am very comfortable with Island culture and have learned to read the body language. (in the islands, more than 50% of communication is non-verbal) In SXM I am on guard at all times and all places and always try to park as close to the door as I can. Whereas in San Nicolaas Aruba I feel cautiously comfortable walking the back alleys at night.

The bottom line is that we are always responsible for our own safety. At the clubs I only drink water or Redbull and I make sure that the bottles or cans are obvious to everyone around, sending a message that I am not drunk. Drunks are targets. Outside the clubs, I make eye contact with as many people as I can, showing that I am aware that they are there. Unaware people are targets. Trust your gut feelings. If it doesn't feel right, leave the scene immediately. I often will pull up to a club, pick up a vibe and turn around and move on to the next one. I am positive that 999 times out of 1000 there would have been no problem staying but for that 1 in 1000th time I wasn't there either.

Security cameras at the clubs is a step in the right direction. But unless the cameras are being continually monitored by at least two people who are directing a security / response team they are only good for getting convictions and not good for crime prevention. I feel the clubs need uniformed security personnel (armed if legal) , some stationed at key points on the property and some on continuous roving patrol. This is in conjunction with monitored cams. It is expensive, but I know I would be willing to pay a small cover or a slightly higher drink / multa price to be assured of a safe environment.

I will continue to pursue the pleasures of our hobby in as many parts of the world as I can. So far I have Aruba, Curacao and SXM planned for this month. Bangkok at the end of Feb and my first trip to Hong Kong in March.

I wish all my brothers out there a Happy and Healthy New Year. Keep it up and keep it wet and be safe. This going to be a great year!

Pogo

Airboss
01-02-11, 16:17
Moving on, after the well described ass shooting this week.

Not sure what is causing it, but recent visits to the known Mongering Universe in SXM indicate a shortage of clients in all but Carolina. Mid afternoon visits put the ratio at about 4 ladies for every hombre. In some circles this would classify as a 'target rich environment'. Given this is the highest part of high season here, did find this a bit surprising. As well that there were relatively few gringos in the 'hunter seeker' grouping.

It is perhaps because of this that upon entry into most any venue, it reminds me of what chum must felt like on Amity Long Island. The sharks descend upon you quickly. Usually a polite, 'thank you, but just looking for now' has been sufficient to provide enough breathing space to scan the talent field.

Last night in Seamen's, it was a different story. After being approached by a number of the gals, all nice but not to my taste, a large morena attached herself like a Alabama tick. It was mildly amusing at first, sort of a reverse sexual assault, grabbing my hands trying to force them to attach to parts of her body. After a while, trying to be polite about it, I saw a more interesting spinner and tried to extricate from this. She would have none of it. Even got quite angry when made clear she was not of interest to me. Have never encountered this level of belligerence in SXM, and sadly elected to bail, as did not see a calm ending.

Stopped in at Casablanca, better crowd, but still 3 to 1 ratio. All Dominican talent there, wide variety, the few 8's were kept very busy, but did not have the attitude to back up their nice form. Price point there $50. Room included, if you pick well, even at night did not pay much attention to the clock. Adequate security in the lot, seem to have a bbq grill going in the afternoon. Did not know what was up with that.

Defiance doors still closed, El Capitan lite up enough to be used as a fixed visual point by the Space Station. Have not yet ventured inside, guess earlier reviews by this membership made it less interesting.

Sunset had a fairly full lot, but no security and as a former felon can say watch your back in the parking area.

Am wondering if my run in with 'Jaws' at Seamen's was an experience shared by others, and if so what approach you took to yanking the teeth from that ugly fish. Pretty sure my lousy instinctive reaction would have done little more than yield an interview with one of the 3 local constables. But I am not a very good role model. Something about deep seated anti-social tendencies my PO used to say! But I digress!

Happy Mongering. Something not often heard in the tea circles of Greenwich, but works in SXM.

Ab

PogoStick
01-02-11, 22:30
Well written, Airboss! You had nme chuckling all the way through it.

I ran into a leech one time at El Cap. I couldn't get rid of her at all. I was almost ready to hold a lighter to her ass to get her to let go of me. I finally just walked out and headed down to Seamans. Had to shake her off of my leg like you would a horny poodle to get out the door.

Pogo.


Moving on, after the well described ass shooting this week.

Not sure what is causing it, but recent visits to the known Mongering Universe in SXM indicate a shortage of clients in all but Carolina. Mid afternoon visits put the ratio at about 4 ladies for every hombre. In some circles this would classify as a 'target rich environment'. Given this is the highest part of high season here, did find this a bit surprising. As well that there were relatively few gringos in the 'hunter seeker' grouping.

It is perhaps because of this that upon entry into most any venue, it reminds me of what chum must felt like on Amity Long Island. The sharks descend upon you quickly. Usually a polite, 'thank you, but just looking for now' has been sufficient to provide enough breathing space to scan the talent field.

Last night in Seamen's, it was a different story. After being approached by a number of the gals, all nice but not to my taste, a large morena attached herself like a Alabama tick. It was mildly amusing at first, sort of a reverse sexual assault, grabbing my hands trying to force them to attach to parts of her body. After a while, trying to be polite about it, I saw a more interesting spinner and tried to extricate from this. She would have none of it. Even got quite angry when made clear she was not of interest to me. Have never encountered this level of belligerence in SXM, and sadly elected to bail, as did not see a calm ending.

Stopped in at Casablanca, better crowd, but still 3 to 1 ratio. All Dominican talent there, wide variety, the few 8's were kept very busy, but did not have the attitude to back up their nice form. Price point there $50. Room included, if you pick well, even at night did not pay much attention to the clock. Adequate security in the lot, seem to have a bbq grill going in the afternoon. Did not know what was up with that.

Defiance doors still closed, El Capitan lite up enough to be used as a fixed visual point by the Space Station. Have not yet ventured inside, guess earlier reviews by this membership made it less interesting.

Sunset had a fairly full lot, but no security and as a former felon can say watch your back in the parking area.

Am wondering if my run in with 'Jaws' at Seamen's was an experience shared by others, and if so what approach you took to yanking the teeth from that ugly fish. Pretty sure my lousy instinctive reaction would have done little more than yield an interview with one of the 3 local constables. But I am not a very good role model. Something about deep seated anti-social tendencies my PO used to say! But I digress!

Happy Mongering. Something not often heard in the tea circles of Greenwich, but works in SXM.

Ab

Mel365
01-03-11, 00:42
Pogo

I would really like to hear about Aruba. There has not been a decent post in months.

AS a ps-when I get a clinger I say I have to go to the bathroom, usually stay in there for 5 minutes and they find someone else. Otherwise, I tell them I am looking for nother Chica, thank you, but no thanks.

That always works.

Mel

Spikecr
01-03-11, 01:47
I have visited Petite and Carolina's.

I am looking for BB service BJ or FS.

I saw Julisa but she is not my type.

Are there any girls at the clubs that will provide BB with French kissing?

Spike

Lucky Strike
01-03-11, 04:31
Thanks for the report, Airboss.

4 chicas for every customer? Great! More chances that I'll be able to negotiate the daytime "fee" lower.

And considering the crime situation near the clubs, if the price is right I might just tell the chica to take a taxi to my hotel when I arrive, and then send her back 5-6 days later jajajaja.


Moving on, after the well described ass shooting this week.

Not sure what is causing it, but recent visits to the known Mongering Universe in SXM indicate a shortage of clients in all but Carolina. Mid afternoon visits put the ratio at about 4 ladies for every hombre.

PeedPiper
01-04-11, 19:13
sorry for the delay; actually sonia was not that fat, but compared to the other beauties, she seems less skinny. very gentle anyways.yea i was about to say sonia is not fat at all. as i remember her. anyway is she still at carolinas?

Zing23
01-05-11, 01:05
yea i was about to say sonia is not fat at all. as i remember her. anyway is she still at carolinas?i talked to sonia today so she is still at carolinas. and i don't consider her fat, not even chunky. she is feminine curvy! there are a lot of new girls now, very attractive, perhaps a little hardened. however, if you speak a little spanish and buy a few $2 juices for the girls, you can actually get a good connection and service in carolinas.

-zing

Niceb
01-07-11, 23:33
I have visited Petite and Carolina's.

I am looking for BB service BJ or FS.

I saw Julisa but she is not my type.

Are there any girls at the clubs that will provide BB with French kissing?

SpikeAt Petite you met the only girl I know that provide BJCIM. Enjoy

LuckyEddie
01-08-11, 20:31
I have visited Petite and Carolina's.

I am looking for BB service BJ or FS.

I saw Julisa but she is not my type.

Are there any girls at the clubs that will provide BB with French kissing?

SpikeIt is tough enough getting the winning combo when you are in the real world, on your home turf with no time restrictions trying to get a girlfriend that meets all the requirements.

Now you are on vacation for only a week, probably don't speak the language which is another roadblock and you are relying on posts here. Although very informative. Have a huge YMMV factor.

At least in SXM you have 6 solid houses with 20+ girls each all within a 5 min ride of each other, where you can interact in a social setting and most importantly negotiate just what you want beforehand.

It has been posted here before and is especially true with Colombian girls, you need to session a few times to build up the confidence and comatibility and the GFE comes with that. Tips and being a good guy also help and not being a total elephant man also helps.

My bottom line advice is mingle, see if there is a little connection, negotiate the BBBJ HERE. If she will not give a BBBJ from the get go there will never be CIM. If it looks good do the $5-50 session on side and make a judgement call for the next time. Not a super huge investment. If she blows like she has no experience the CIM probably won't happen or if it does will be weak.

After this first session go back later in the day or that night and treat her well and then work on the CIM.

Lastly I think the GFE on the island increases exponentially if you do the takeout thing. Dinner out hotel all nighter etc.

Lucky Strike
01-12-11, 04:18
Well, Gentlemen, this thread seems to be totally abandoned. So I was wondering if anyone would share recent updates and / or recommendations for my upcoming trip? (either in the public forum or through the PM)

Muchas gracias

L. S.

Siepko Bach
01-12-11, 20:09
Well, Gentlemen, this thread seems to be totally abandoned. So I was wondering if anyone would share recent updates and / or recommendations for my upcoming trip? (either in the public forum or through the PM)

Muchas gracias

L. S.Surprising question. To me it seems that there are more recent reports from St Maarten than from many other countries (maybe excluding countries like Thailand, Colombia). Even in the less than two weeks of this year that passed by so far, there are some detailed reports. Not that the overall situation there is rapidly changing anyway.

Lucky Strike
01-13-11, 05:01
Surprising question. To me it seems that there are more recent reports from St Maarten than from many other countries (maybe excluding countries like Thailand, Colombia). Even in the less than two weeks of this year that passed by so far, there are some detailed reports. Not that the overall situation there is rapidly changing anyway.Sorry, mate, but this SXM thread seems to me nothing like 2-3 years ago when it was full of names, GFE / PSE details and room numbers. I guess I've been "spoiled" by that.

/L. S. /

Mel365
01-13-11, 05:32
The problem I have encountered with this board as well of a number of other well known members is this.

I give out a great name after developing a good relationship with the chicas and get anything I want. I make mention of that and then some newbie just meeting the same chica says, I hear that you do BBBJ, or whatever.

Then my cover is blown. Also when you ask one chica for a special service in the bar, they then know whoever you take in the back does that service and her cover is blown. That is why there are mostly just general reports. I will however give out the names of some of my favorites, and you have to take it from there.

Julisa is far from a spinner but is great to know at Petite, she also puts on a great party. Tanya is a cute spinner at El Capt. Olga one of my favorites from 5 years ago in sxm and more recently in Aruba, Olga will be at el capt starting the 16th but don't be looking for her, she will be out tnl, tld with me. Also Tanya is leaving the end of the month.

My problem will be two great novias in one club.

Mel

PogoStick
01-13-11, 17:26
Also, the chicas are all online now and many of them do follow this board and others. I will only mention names if she allows it. Or if it is a warning about one that is not so good. But anyone I like and plan to see again will remain confidential except to well known members.

The other problem is that many of us do the circuit of several islands, so reputations follow us as well. The more the chicas can trust us, the better experience we get.

And bottom line, a chica that is here today may be gone tomorrow. One that I love may be one that you would pass. It is always a YMMV situation.

So most of us give advice on how to have fun safely, where to stay and how to get around. But the journey itself is always your own.

Pogo.


The problem I have encountered with this board as well of a number of other well known members is this.

I give out a great name after developing a good relationship with the chicas and get anything I want. I make mention of that and then some newbie just meeting the same chica says, I hear that you do BBBJ, or whatever.

Then my cover is blown. Also when you ask one chica for a special service in the bar, they then know whoever you take in the back does that service and her cover is blown. That is why there are mostly just general reports. I will however give out the names of some of my favorites, and you have to take it from there.

Julisa is far from a spinner but is great to know at Petite, she also puts on a great party. Tanya is a cute spinner at El Capt. Olga one of my favorites from 5 years ago in sxm and more recently in Aruba, Olga will be at el capt starting the 16th but don't be looking for her, she will be out tnl, tld with me. Also Tanya is leaving the end of the month.

My problem will be two great novias in one club.

Mel

LuckyEddie
01-13-11, 22:12
I give out a great name after developing a good relationship with the chicas and get anything I want. I make mention of that and then some newbie just meeting the same chica says, I hear that you do BBBJ, or whatever.

Then my cover is blown. Also when you ask one chica for a special service in the bar, they then know whoever you take in the back does that service and her cover is blown. I agree big time with the first paragraph but for second one a lot of girls are there to make money and not win a popularity contest so negotiating services in the bar, although I never do it, is something that guys there on a short time probably should do. JMHO.


The more the chicas can trust us, the better experience we get.

And bottom line, a chica that is here today may be gone tomorrow. One that I love may be one that you would pass. It is always a YMMV situation.

So most of us give advice on how to have fun safely, where to stay and how to get around. But the journey itself is always your own. Sage advice. I know what I like, I can spot tits and don't need someone to tell me what girl is my type. Especially since in these clubs you can sit and chat and see who you have chemistry with.

This whole "give me a room number","what does she do", and my personal favourite,"what room has the big tits" like the guy asking has a seeing eye dog or something.

WTF?

These questions are just fukin ridiculous from lazy assed sloths.

Are you guys that much of losers you need more assistence? You're in an area of 6 whõrehouses with 20 prõstutites EACH (120 broads). What more do you need? Is getting quality sex that much of a challenge? Do you also need someone to hold your dick while you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)?

OK I am better now.

Thank You!

LuckyEddie
01-13-11, 22:35
OK I have not been to SXM since a month before the original Seamans closed. So I am going through withdrawl. I live in Colombia and have no problems with the ladies in any country, pros or non pros.

But there is just something about being on SXM, wonderful beaches, great restuarants, great clubs, great weather, sports gambling in three different places, duty free booze and Cuban cigars, cheap jewelry and electronics, Lee's, quality reefer, easy to navigate island (minus the drawbridge) , the good Guiness Export Extra bottles, close proximity to 3 other islands and take out and eat in hõokers. 6+ whõrehouese where you can hang out and drink and mingle all day with the girls if you want, they practically never close. Jet skis? Day trip to St Baarts or Anguuila? Fishing? Rooftop bar / barbecue? There's even a golf course altohugh I've never seen anyone on it in 10 years.

I totally love the island and have to tell you guys the working girls on the islands are just a pleasure compared to here in their home country with their families and problems and grit and smog and danger, everyone trying to rip yo off for just about EVERYTHING, and no beach, crapy food, girls stealing, playing games and acting up, not to mention everything is spread out, things close early and the small handful of decent restuarants are super expensive. There is not much middle ground dining and the cheap food places suck.

Being in SXM is almost as good as it gets in this hemisphere if you love island paradises. There are secluded and quiet areas / beaches and other areas that are loaded with day and nightlife. The choice is yours. Sunset Beach Bar by the runway? When that KLM 747 comes roaring in. Woah!

You can do things on the cheap one day and totally treat yourself the next day. All options are available.

Seriously, what is missing from SXM besides the room numbers of the girls with big tits?

Lucky Strike
01-13-11, 23:51
This whole "give me a room number","what does she do", and my personal favourite,"what room has the big tits" like the guy asking has a seeing eye dog or something.

WTF?

These questions are just fukin ridiculous from lazy assed sloths.

Are you guys that much of losers you need more assistence? You're in an area of 6 whõrehouses with 20 prõstutites EACH (120 broads). What more do you need? Is getting quality sex that much of a challenge? Do you also need someone to hold your dick while you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)?

OK I am better now.

Thank You! Ha ha ha. As I said here before, this thread seems to have changed from 2-3 years ago. Evidently the contributors' attitudes changed too.

"You're in an area of 6 whõrehouses with 20 prõstutites EACH (120 broads). What more do you need?"- More Time! I'm going to be there for only 5 days. And obviously I'm not as "lucky" as you are, I only get GFE now and then. And this lazy fuc*er wouldn't mind knowing about a chica or two who at least have the potential of being something other than 100% mechanical with a client (just "a client", not necessarily me.)

BTW, I never ask what specifically the chicas do (bb or anything else) or even what they look like. YMMV, so what's the point? And I only ask room #s because there could be more than 1 chica with the same "name" in the club. A few years ago I was looking for the "famous" Valentina from Defiance and ended up with a different "Valentina." For those who know the "real" Valentina, you can imagine why at first I couldn't understand what the fuss was all about. That is only until I met the "real" Valentina.

LuckyEddie
01-14-11, 01:12
i only get gfe now and then. and this lazy fuc*er wouldn't mind knowing about a chica or two who at least have the potential of being something other than 100% mechanical with a client (just "a client", not necessarily me.)

btw, i never ask what specifically the chicas do (bb or anything else) or even what they look like. ymmv, so what's the point? exactly. one chica is mechanical with me but a pornstar with the next guy. how do you know beforehand? by the way you two interact while in the bar area. hardened pros or mechanical hos (hey that rhymes) usually give off a vibe. you know when you are clicking with someone.

i had some girl in colombia at a specific house. this girl was awesome. some other poster complained about everythng regarding this girl. i couldn't believe it. well ymmv, so what's the point?

guys here in the sxm forum make mistakes all the time with room numbers, the venue, girls names not to mention the girls lie about their name, switch rooms, hell they switch names and venues, leave the island and anonther one comes days later with the same name and room.

the only real reliable info (meaning accurate names, room numbers and venue) comes from mel and that's because he's usually on the island or has first hand from the brothel owner or the chica herself.

i can see why you need info for only being there 5 days and usually the 1st and last day can be a wash depending on flight times. i won't go if i can't wangle at least 10 days minimum with 16 being just right.

lasly i've seen reports here where the guy asks, gets tons of names and room numbers, goes to the island and reports back that the first name and room number were false, met a hottie and threw the paper away after that. didn't even need the info he collected prior.

imho not picking my own girl is like having someone else at the table, a complete stranger, order my dinner for me in the restuarant.

i didn't mean to come off as rep001hing or negatve. with all due respect please accept my humble and sincere apology. we are all different.

John2526
01-14-11, 20:58
tastes vary so much that i wouldn't put much stock in someone else's appraisal.

i'm very visual in what turns me on, and have my preferences. girls that others here are crazy over didn't appeal to me at all.

if someone says a girl is mental. i'd avoid her, and might give a prospect a point or two for an outstanding performance review, but otherwise i'd plan just to pick my own.


exactly. one chica is mechanical with me but a pornstar with the next guy. how do you know beforehand? by the way you two interact while in the bar area. hardened pros or mechanical hos (hey that rhymes) usually give off a vibe. you know when you are clicking with someone.

i had some girl in colombia at a specific house. this girl was awesome. some other poster complained about everythng regarding this girl. i couldn't believe it. well ymmv, so what's the point?

guys here in the sxm forum make mistakes all the time with room numbers, the venue, girls names not to mention the girls lie about their name, switch rooms, hell they switch names and venues, leave the island and anonther one comes days later with the same name and room.

the only real reliable info (meaning accurate names, room numbers and venue) comes from mel and that's because he's usually on the island or has first hand from the brothel owner or the chica herself.

i can see why you need info for only being there 5 days and usually the 1st and last day can be a wash depending on flight times. i won't go if i can't wangle at least 10 days minimum with 16 being just right.

lasly i've seen reports here where the guy asks, gets tons of names and room numbers, goes to the island and reports back that the first name and room number were false, met a hottie and threw the paper away after that. didn't even need the info he collected prior.

imho not picking my own girl is like having someone else at the table, a complete stranger, order my dinner for me in the restuarant.

i didn't mean to come off as rep001hing or negatve. with all due respect please accept my humble and sincere apology. we are all different.

PogoStick
01-15-11, 14:23
exactly. one chica is mechanical with me but a pornstar with the next guy. how do you know beforehand? by the way you two interact while in the bar area. hardened pros or mechanical hos (hey that rhymes) usually give off a vibe. you know when you are clicking with someone.

i had some girl in colombia at a specific house. this girl was awesome. some other poster complained about everythng regarding this girl. i couldn't believe it. well ymmv, so what's the point?

*snip*

i didn't mean to come off as rep001hing or negatve. with all due respect please accept my humble and sincere apology. we are all different. yep. if we all had the same tastes there would be one chica and a damn long line!

there are some chicas that are known to always be friendly, professional and accommodating. and for a short timer the intel can be helpful.

but even then it is still ymmv. i have been with highly recommended chicas that i just didn't click with. nice enough, good sex, but nothing special. however, one of my atfs was one that if i had caught her name before we went to the room, i would have passed due to a few bad reports. i only got her name after over an hour of delicious lovemaking. i could not believe it was the same chica, but it was. now, i would walk away from a good bj with the hottest chica in town to be with her.

i kind of like to roll the dice. see who pops up without any preconceptions. at the very worst i get a bj and / or some pussy. and even a bad bj is-well is there really any such thing as a bad bj? (excluding severe physical damage)

i think one of the best things about the lesser antilles forums here on isg is that all are welcome to ask any question without all the flame wars that occur on other parts of isg and other similar forums. most of us adopt a laid back caribbean attitude towards life and travel. we enjoy the islands and love to share.

pogo

LuckyEddie
01-15-11, 19:29
I kind of like to roll the dice. See who pops up without any preconceptions. At the very worst I get a BJ and / or some pussy. And even a bad BJ is-well is there really any such thing as a bad BJ? (excluding severe physical damage) Like they say there is no such thing as a bad BJ or bad pizza.


I think one of the best things about the Lesser Antilles forums here on ISG is that all are welcome to ask any question without all the flame wars that occur on other parts of ISG and other similar forums. Most of us adopt a laid back Caribbean attitude towards life and travel. We enjoy the islands and love to share.

PogoI post on about 3 forums lurk on a few others and I have to say that the gents here are a class act. I've met Zing and would meet anyone who is a regular here. I cannot say the same about the other forums.

Why the difference? I agree with Pogo regarding the laid back Caribbean attitude. Also the guys going to SXM are into more than just "getting laid" only.

I think for the most part we go on vacation in a tropical paradise and enjoy a great deal more than just mongering for $45 a go. The other guys probably have some money issues or need to make up for lost time so they are all about the quantity instead of the quality and go to some smoggy crime ridden city that offers little and monger 4 times a day for $20 a pop. They fly home with 20-30 notches for the week, cheaking their lists of conquests ignoring the crappy food and how the whole time they constantly looked over their shoulder, never fully relaxed and were worried about being ripped off or being a victim.

They probably return home more stressed out and with nothing more to show for it from when they left. No wonder they are assholes when they get back home and start posting about it on the internet LOL!

They must lack self respect, are not happy with themselves and thus are angry and somehow feel the need to prove to an internet audience just how manly they are. The mere fact that they do so says just the opposite in real life.

Why not treat yourself better? You're worth it! The cost is not that much more. Life is short.

Zing23
01-16-11, 02:22
I no longer post details of my encounters with the girls as I did with great volume a couple of years ago. The reason is simple, this forum is public and the information gets back to the girls, creating a bad reputation for me. Just a month ago, one of my favorite girls who I have known for several years told me that a guy told her that I posted ratings of the girls on the internet. That isn't true and I just denied it, but she considered it a negative thing.

Regarding the problem of having 2 (or more) novias in the same club, I no longer worry about it. I am nice to all the girls, try new girls all the time and maintain a good relation with my favorites. I think the key is to be fun and thoughtful. When I am with them, they have my full attention.

-zing

Chicapower
01-16-11, 07:19
I am asking for honest input about a situation which occurred this week with "Angel" from Calroina's

I stopped by after a long day of work and having gone without sleep the night before on my flight in, just to have some drinks and scope out the chicas for talent for possible action later in the week.

After buying a few drinks and starting to catch a buzz I ran into Angle and told her I was too trired to go into her room and I was shortly headed back to my hotel top sleep (it was 2:00 a. M.) She says "hey just pay my house fee of $50 and $40 for me and I will hang out with you and drink all night and crash in your hotel with.

Angle was really cool to sleep next to, she didn't' snore or fart and she had really soft skin and I got a good nights sleep

The next AM it was time for a massive fuck fest and I banged her lucious pussy every which way. She would not let me kiss her or finger her anus. But she gae a decent blow job with the several piercings she has in her tounqe.

So 11 am rolls around and I take her back to Carloina's and flipped her her $40she had requested and she flips out about needing $400. I am 100% confident that she said she only wanted $40.

Next two big security guys come and a huge crisis breaks out aboyt me having to pay her $400.

My main point was why didn't she collect her money up front? Thus avoiding confusiion.

What is up BTW guys. Any experience wioth any bait and switch a high price scam with the chickas

PS I dedided to settle it for her for half payment

PogoStick
01-16-11, 14:27
I no longer post details of my encounters with the girls as I did with great volume a couple of years ago. The reason is simple, this forum is public and the information gets back to the girls, creating a bad reputation for me. Just a month ago, one of my favorite girls who I have known for several years told me that a guy told her that I posted ratings of the girls on the internet. That isn't true and I just denied it, but she considered it a negative thing.

Regarding the problem of having 2 (or more) novias in the same club, I no longer worry about it. I am nice to all the girls, try new girls all the time and maintain a good relation with my favorites. I think the key is to be fun and thoughtful. When I am with them, they have my full attention.

-zingHaving seen Zing in action, he does make each chica feel special. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they are paying him! He is the master of giving them the BFE!

I think that because the Caribbean sex industry is a fairly close knit community, both for mongers and workers, we respect each others privacy and boundaries. We all tour the same circuits, we see the same chicas on different islands. We pass messeges and gifts to chicas for each other.

I like that in this forum we discuss the total experience and not just the details. Ie: road conditions in SXM that have a direct bearing on your approach to certain houses, or a good place to take a chica for dinner where she will not feel out of place. Too many of the other forums almost demand a formalized reporting of face, body, pussy size, strokes per hour etc. Who the hell wants to think about all that crap while enjoying a young lady? What are you supposed to do? Fill out a written checklist after each chica?

6-7 years ago this forum was one of the few resources for info about mongering in the Caribbean. It was fairly hard to find, even among computer literate people. At that time, very few chicas had ever been online, many had never used a computer at all. We could freely discuss what ever we wanted with no fear of detection or reprisals.

Now. One of the first things a chica does is give you a cell# and an email address. I see laptops and netbooks in many of the rooms. And just because the girls may not be well educated does not mean they are not intelligent. These girls are sharp and know about this forum and all of the others. Even though we don't tell them our online handles, they can figure it out themselves from travel schedules and comparing notes with each other. And still there is no form of communication faster then Tellachica. Word gets around. Fast!

We will see more and more chicas as well as adult venues using these forums in their marketing. Aey from Annies in Bangkok is a master of forum marketing. (and she is the sharpest mind I have ever met in this industry) There is a sign in her business listing about 6 forums and asking for reports.

It amazes me that NONE of the legal brothels on the 3 Dutch islands have an effective web presence. Even the tiniest, rat infested, hole in the wall. 3 skank massage shop in Asia has a kick ass website! Why not the Caribbean?

I am also surprised that there are no chicas with business cards yet. They could have contact info as well as tour schedules. This is a full time business for many of them and I think we will see more of them step up to modern marketing techniques. Look at how escorts in the US market themselves and you can see the future of the island chica marketing. You will find chicas that will have their entire schedule pre-booked before they even get on island. In that case, back-channel intel and introductions on this forum may become very important.

So to go back to the beginning of this conversation, yeah I guess this forum has changed a lot in the last few years. The industry has changed and we had to evolve along with it. And it will continue to change. The only constant will be horny men with money!

Pogo

Zing23
01-16-11, 17:23
What is up BTW guys. Any experience with any bait and switch a high price scam with the chickas

PS I dedided to settle it for her for half paymentYou didn't say what language you made the deal in. There are always opportunities for misunderstandings when translating. I can't recall being ever scammed myself in 5 years, but I have had several mis-communications, nothing this large. Also, it is extremely unlikely that any girl would go out for $40 for the whole night at this time of year. This is high season, when the island is awash in potential clients and money.

-zing

Chicapower
01-16-11, 20:02
You didn't say what language you made the deal in. There are always opportunities for misunderstandings when translating. I can't recall being ever scammed myself in 5 years, but I have had several mis-communications, nothing this large. Also, it is extremely unlikely that any girl would go out for $40 for the whole night at this time of year. This is high season, when the island is awash in potential clients and money.

-zingWell she was columbian and speaks only spanish and my spanish is so so. It is hard to mistake quarenta from quatro cientos.

When I took her our of the club it was like 2 am and it was filled with many cheap native guys who were only buying beers and trying to feel up every ass that moved into their vicinity. I could see why she could have been interested to leave and go relax in my nice resort and have a few beers. It was not as if I took her out at 8 PM and banged her all night long. Clearly, my intention that night was to only drink my ass off and buy some chicas some drinks and flip them a few tips.

I guess it is best to attribute the situation to a miscommunication.

I was just wondering if anyone else had had such an experience.

Honestly, I do not have much experience in paying for these girls to go out all night, in fact I have no experience. This was my first time.

The main reason why I was writing was to find out if it is common that the girl will leave with you, spend all night and then ask for the money as you are dropping her off at Carolinas. I found this kind of odd and I would expect and thing that when dealing with $400 the girl would ask for the money up front.

It all seemed too much like the place was crowded with locals not spending any money and she was trying to find a way to hussle a couple of hundred out of me by doing a bait and switch.

In the future, in St. Maarten I will always pay the girl up front so I have no issues with confusion or mis translation.

My own preference with chicas are the variety I meet at bars and discos, hang out with you all night, fuck you and then they next morning tell you all about the huge financial problem they are facing and ask you to give them some money to help them. Somehow this seems more sporting to me. At the end of the day I am still paying for sex I guess. I think you guys call these "semi pros". I had one in South America that I was going on with like that for almost an entire year. She kind of reminded me of my wife after a while, some pain in the ass ***** who is constantly asking for money and giving me financial pain. Only difference was that the chica would pay off with amazing sexual adventures in the cama which I will never forget, worth every fucking dollar. Also, I knew the money was going to a good cause as she was supporting her daughter and entire family off what she made from me and a few other "sponsors"

Lucky Strike
01-16-11, 23:45
As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true. Be careful! Since $40 often won't even buy you a "short time", it's not likely to buy you an entire night. Although if you're one of those dudes who have the normal chicas literally fight over you. Then I guess that's what you'd expect, and then I can't blame you.

There's another side of the coin: those chicas that always demand money upfront don't "put out" more often than those who get paid after the fact.

Personally I wouldn't pay $400+multa@2am, but I wouldn't expect anything below multa+$200.

L. S.

John Gault
01-17-11, 04:20
I am asking for honest input about a situation which occurred this week with "Angel" from Calroina's

I stopped by after a long day of work and having gone without sleep the night before on my flight in, just to have some drinks and scope out the chicas for talent for possible action later in the week.

After buying a few drinks and starting to catch a buzz I ran into Angle and told her I was too trired to go into her room and I was shortly headed back to my hotel top sleep (it was 2:00 am) She says "hey just pay my house fee of $50 and $40 for me and I will hang out with you and drink all night and crash in your hotel with.

Angle was really cool to sleep next to, she didn't' snore or fart and she had really soft skin and I got a good nights sleep

The next AM it was time for a massive fuck fest and I banged her lucious pussy every which way. She would not let me kiss her or finger her anus. But she gae a decent blow job with the several piercings she has in her tounqe.

So 11 am rolls around and I take her back to Carloina's and flipped her her $40she had requested and she flips out about needing $400. I am 100% confident that she said she only wanted $40.

Next two big security guys come and a huge crisis breaks out aboyt me having to pay her $400.

My main point was why didn't she collect her money up front? Thus avoiding confusiion.

What is up BTW guys. Any experience wioth any bait and switch a high price scam with the chickas

PS I dedided to settle it for her for half paymentWTF, this is one of the worst rip off stories I have ever heard. First off if the bar fine is $50 and you paid it then the house should have no say in the price matter between you and the girl off site the next morning.

Next time to aviod a stituation like that it would be better to pay her at your place, not at the Casa. At least then you are not dealing with a couple of muscle heads.

Tomasb
01-17-11, 07:17
As other members have suggested it's better to just show them the money, though not give it to them to afterwards. This way there are no misunderstandings later.


Well she was columbian and speaks only spanish and my spanish is so so. It is hard to mistake quarenta from quatro cientos.

When I took her our of the club it was like 2 am and it was filled with many cheap native guys who were only buying beers and trying to feel up every ass that moved into their vicinity. I could see why she could have been interested to leave and go relax in my nice resort and have a few beers. It was not as if I took her out at 8 PM and banged her all night long. Clearly, my intention that night was to only drink my ass off and buy some chicas some drinks and flip them a few tips.

I guess it is best to attribute the situation to a miscommunication.

I was just wondering if anyone else had had such an experience.

Honestly, I do not have much experience in paying for these girls to go out all night, in fact I have no experience. This was my first time.

The main reason why I was writing was to find out if it is common that the girl will leave with you, spend all night and then ask for the money as you are dropping her off at Carolinas. I found this kind of odd and I would expect and thing that when dealing with $400 the girl would ask for the money up front.

It all seemed too much like the place was crowded with locals not spending any money and she was trying to find a way to hussle a couple of hundred out of me by doing a bait and switch.

In the future, in St. Maarten I will always pay the girl up front so I have no issues with confusion or mis translation.

My own preference with chicas are the variety I meet at bars and discos, hang out with you all night, fuck you and then they next morning tell you all about the huge financial problem they are facing and ask you to give them some money to help them. Somehow this seems more sporting to me. At the end of the day I am still paying for sex I guess. I think you guys call these "semi pros". I had one in South America that I was going on with like that for almost an entire year. She kind of reminded me of my wife after a while, some pain in the ass * who is constantly asking for money and giving me financial pain. Only difference was that the chica would pay off with amazing sexual adventures in the cama which I will never forget, worth every fucking dollar. Also, I knew the money was going to a good cause as she was supporting her daughter and entire family off what she made from me and a few other "sponsors"

Airboss
01-17-11, 18:24
I think a recent post may have answered the question that has brought me back to this oracle of monger wisdom.

First, however a scouting report for those in the group that feel there is benefit from an advance recon regardless of how warped the point man might be!

It remains high season on the island and the cash cows are hungry. Traffic in the clubs varies greatly with the number of monster ships in port. Still these are seasoned professionals, and for a modest fee they will find a way to make Willy feel like a King. If only for 20 minutes and the sounds of coins feeding her meter.

The girls of Carolina. While most come bearing gifts of silicone (from the same plastic clown given the nature of scar he leaves). They also dress up the best in a way to tempt anyone short of Liberace. Here Diana and Angelika struck me as top of the tuna barrel.

Down the road a piece, on the right side before crossing into Frog territory is Casablanca. Seemingly under construction for 5 years running with no visible progress, it remains home to the Domincan Republic's contribution to the 'pay for play' industry. Here, Donna and Ange are the nicest to look at. And given the frequency of trips they make down to the dungeon of rooms each night. Would not be surprised if they owned the 44' Ketch that might soon part next to Mel. Paid for in cash no doubt.

In El Capitan. Look for Tanya. An attractive brunette. 5'7", slim but not athletic build and enough of a rack that drowning not likely in her future. Nice attitude, reasonable skills. If you close your eyes and click your heels a few time, might even forget she is more interested in your wallet than machismo charms!

Seamens remains my personal Alamo. Where a large Morena shark lies in wait for the unsuspecting blanca monger. She has the unique talent of taking the fun out of our silent subculture. So aggressive and graspy that when she pulls off her top while attempting to either excite or smother you (still not sure which). All it does is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. The 5 minute hiatus in the less than well appointed bathroom did little to deter her from the smell of dinero.

Here is my question. Aside from an abundance of multi spectrum surveillance cameras. What security presence do the former police owners maintain. And are they armed. Oddly, aside from the poor fellow shot in the ass a few weeks ago. Have never seen much bar brawling in these places. I should mention that the 'security screen' sometimes placed at the entrance should not make you feel too secure. I have been screened and wanded, never stopped. And should have been!

Well folks, back to the salt mines. Remember. Always keep your powder dry!

Ab

LuckyEddie
01-17-11, 21:12
As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true. Be careful! Since $40 often won't even buy you a "short time", it's not likely to buy you an entire night. Personally I wouldn't pay $400+multa@2am, but I wouldn't expect anything below multa+$200.

L. S. Yeah, all nighter for less $ than the normal session in the casa. Maybe she thought you were staying at La Semana?

Either way I got to get to SXM soon. I recently moved back to the US (9 days ago) after living in South America for 7 years and it is COLD! Plus I caught a mean bronchitis that I am just about over. So if I was a bit rough or mean in some of my posts last week I would like to apologize.

OK, on to booking a trip to SXM. I need to see the new Seamans.

SinhalaHomey
01-18-11, 00:05
As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true. Be careful! Since $40 often won't even buy you a "short time", it's not likely to buy you an entire night. Although if you're one of those dudes who have the normal chicas literally fight over you. Then I guess that's what you'd expect, and then I can't blame you.

There's another side of the coin: those chicas that always demand money upfront don't "put out" more often than those who get paid after the fact.

Personally I wouldn't pay $400+multa@2am, but I wouldn't expect anything below multa+$200.

L. S. In all seriousness, what's the damage on average if you take a girl out after 3am?

Thanks

Lucky Strike
01-19-11, 08:40
So far I have not run into any of the chicas mentioned here. Nobody's cover is blown, don't worry you'all.

Haven't seen any stunners. But, like everyone keeps pointing out, YMMV, and one man's trash- another man's treasure.

What surprised me is that there's always plenty of available parking at carolinas and seamans. I've not counted, but the number of chicas in carolina and seamans seems a lot smaller than in previous years during "high season." there's also fewer customers than what I recall from prior years, both in the afternoon and at night. Today there were 5 cruise ships in port but carolinas and seamans were virtually empty. I wonder if the word about the shooting got out and the crews are scared or "discouraged" from coming. El capitan was more crowded at 2pm. But overall, there's fewer chicas and fewer customers.

Mel365
01-20-11, 03:29
I have been here for a weeek.

The top of my list is a little confusing because there is a 3 way tie for first place.

Top of my list would be Cecelia at Seamans #204 no a stunner but amazing in the room.

Interesting almost inca Oval shaped face. No holds barred. I have been tryin to get to her twice a day.

One of my all time favorites is alexandra #2 at El Capitan. Golden eyes long hair best kisser.

I met her at the airport when she arrived last Sunday she stayed on the boat and finally went to work tonight. A must do. Mention her friend with the boat. I have known her 5 years.

Tanya at aEl Capitan is a unbelievable spinner

Then there is always Julisa she has put on a few pounds but also a real skilled woman.

More when I have a minute.

Mel

Mel365
01-20-11, 04:59
I have Never had a problem with the tln fee for a chica.

I believe there was an honest misunderstanding.

New chicas have a conrtact to pay off usuallly 2000 dollars. At some clubs the tln is 350 210 going to the contract.

Others 50 or 60 for the tln feee plus payment for the chica. I have heard of $250 tln but it is usually around 350 plus a multa.

You can usually take a chica out at closing without a multa. However, who wants a chica that has been having sex for the last 15 hours. I would rather take oneout at 8pm when they sigh in, out for a short session, dinner, another possible marthon.

The chicas like to get back to the bar early so morning sex is usually difficult, that is why I like to take chicas out for tln and return them 24 hours later. That of course depends upon the chica. I never take a TLN unlessi have checked her out in the room a few times and we have good chemistry.

Writing this at midnight is making me horny and I am out to tap Cecelia one more time.

Good night Mel

Horny Jim
01-20-11, 20:50
I have been here for a weeek.

The top of my list is a little confusing because there is a 3 way tie for first place.

Top of my list would be Cecelia at Seamans #204 no a stunner but amazing in the room.

Interesting almost inca Oval shaped face. No holds barred. I have been tryin to get to her twice a day.

One of my all time favorites is alexandra #2 at El Capitan. Golden eyes long hair best kisser.

I met her at the airport when she arrived last Sunday she stayed on the boat and finally went to work tonight. A must do. Mention her friend with the boat. I have known her 5 years.

Tanya at aEl Capitan is a unbelievable spinner

Then there is always Julisa she has put on a few pounds but also a real skilled woman.

More when I have a minute.

MelHi Mel,

Cecelia from # 204 is she a dark skinned girl from Santa Marta, Colombia? If so, can you please ask her when she is returning to Curacao (Campo)?

Thanks in advance.

Horny Jim

Mel365
01-21-11, 16:46
Jim,

I left SXM last night and spent the evening at Campo in CUR.

I will ask her for you in February if you remind me. Campo TNL is cheaper than a hotel. I am now awaiting a DAE flight to Bogota.

Mel

Horny Jim
01-21-11, 20:36
Thanks Mel.

Have a pleasant time in Bog.


Jim,

I left SXM last night and spent the evening at Campo in CUR.

I will ask her for you in February if you remind me. Campo TNL is cheaper than a hotel. I am now awaiting a DAE flight to Bogota.

Mel

Lucky Strike
01-24-11, 06:08
El Capitan: a lot of Dominicanas. The colombianas seem to be older and have too many "miles" on them. A lot of gorditas and gorditas++ and only one or two "spinners." For some reason many have dyed hair red. Total turnoff for me. Can't say I saw even one solid "7." Wasn't able to locate any of Mel's "girlfriends," they may well be head and shoulders above the rest. BUt then again, you won't see them 'cause they will be with Mel on his boat! The positive side of this is that most will quote $40 (vs $50 in other clubs) and during the day there's no room fee and girls don't rush you out. The club is quite busy during the day (opens around 1pm) but relatively few customers at night, even when girls dance on the bar (nightly show, around 10pm)

Seamans: better quality that El Capitan, but nothing too exciting. What stood out were two really tall colombianas with ridiculously huge bolt-ons. So much silicon that it seems like the skin would burst at any moment (if not skin then the tops they were wearing.) I'd say they have a few "7s" but what's best about Seamans is best rooms and best beds.

Carolinas: 44 chicas, some very cute ones. Many "7s" but noone really stood out. They run a show (last week was schoolgirl-themed) that start around 11-midnight on Thursdays, with a raffle at 1am. That was the only time when the place seemed crowded, but amazingly there was still parking available! At Carolina they quote $400+multa for TLN and I've not seen anyone come down below that. On the other hand, many girls complained that they don't make money they expected and most patrons just sit there and drink. So I told a chica on a really "slow" day. Hey, it's almost midnight, bar's empty, I pay multa +$250, let's go. She never budged from $400. Even as I offered $300 she said no way (I wouldn't pay $300 anyway.)

Memorable experiences at Carolina: there's a chica who wears glasses (forgot the name). Had some fun times with her. She can get a little freaky, so before you pay her, make sure she's been smoking pot and not doing coke. When she's on coke and / or drunk she can be really "unpredictable." Well, some might like exactly that, but you've been warned. Also there her roommate,"Azul" (I think.) Tall, nice long legs, nice body. Medium-size silicones. Has that "indian" (indigenous) look. Had good sessions with her. The best sessions I had was with a chica named 'Kelly" (room #2.) she's only 26, I think she's the youngest chica at Carolina right now. She's cute, but doesn't stand out from the crowd. Usually she just sits next to the wall. All natural, no silicon. The skin is soft like a baby's. If you're nice to her, she's very sweet and is capable of some really hot GFE. I am hesitating about putting her name here, but I hope I'm "helping her out" by doing this. I think she needs $$, and this job is not quite what she thought it would be. Unless she becomes "battle-hardened" barracuda soon, you won't see her on the islands again (and if she becomes a "barracuda," then why would you want to see her?) I was unable to take her out for TLN, but had very long sessions in the room. I bet if you do TLN, you won't be disappointed. If soemone has an old unlocked GSM blackberry she'll appreciate the gift.

Petit Chateou: very nice selections of "dark" girls, both from Colombia and the DR. Many beautiful faces. Many gorditas, gorditas++, and gorditas-XXL, but also many who are in great shape. Girls are more open and will offer you just about anything. The Friday night "VIP" show (starts after mid-night, $20 ticket) is "off the hook."

Bottom line: Seamans wins on the quality of the rooms, good ventilation in the club (very little cigarette smoke inside) and only moderately loud music. El Capitan wins on lower prices in the afternoon. Carolinas wins due to the high number of the "cute" chicas. More than in all other bars combined. Petit wins on the fact that girls that will do almost anything.

2 things that continue to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off is $10 room fee in El Capitan at night (so I only go there during the afternoon) and the extremely loud music and heavy smoke inside Carolinas. When you leave that place, even after 5 minutes inside your clothes smell like cigarette smoke!

Security: every day you hear and see s*t happening to locals, and now to the tourists. Doesn't seem to matter if you're in a "good" part of the island or not. In SXM you have to look over your shoulder and be aware of your surroundings now more than ever before. They're killing the golden goose, and are doing it rather quickly. El Capitan has a security guard on the parking lot (but I bet if something goes down he'll be the first one to run away.) Carolinas has a guy watching the parking lot, and at least 2 more security guys with radios / earpieces and metal detectors (although I saw them use the detector on only 2 out of 5 days I was there.) Carolina is clearly trying to get on top of the security issues, and it is appreciated: I spent most nights@Carolinas. I've not seen any security guards at Seamans or Petit.

/L. S. /

LuckyEddie
01-24-11, 22:23
El Capitan: a lot of Dominicanas. The colombianas seem to be older and have too many "miles" on them. A lot of gorditas and gorditas++ and only one or two "spinners." For some reason many have dyed hair red. Total turnoff for me. Can't say I saw even one solid "7." Wasn't able to locate any of Mel's "girlfriends," they may well be head and shoulders above the rest. BUt then again, you won't see them 'cause they will be with Mel on his boat! The positive side of this is that most will quote $40 (vs $50 in other clubs) and during the day there's no room fee and girls don't rush you out. The club is quite busy during the day (opens around 1pm) but relatively few customers at night, even when girls dance on the bar (nightly show, around 10pm)

Seamans: better quality that El Capitan, but nothing too exciting. What stood out were two really tall colombianas with ridiculously huge bolt-ons. So much silicon that it seems like the skin would burst at any moment (if not skin then the tops they were wearing.) I'd say they have a few "7s" but what's best about Seamans is best rooms and best beds.

Carolinas: 44 chicas, some very cute ones. Many "7s" but noone really stood out. They run a show (last week was schoolgirl-themed) that start around 11-midnight on Thursdays, with a raffle at 1am. That was the only time when the place seemed crowded, but amazingly there was still parking available! At Carolina they quote $400+multa for TLN and I've not seen anyone come down below that. On the other hand, many girls complained that they don't make money they expected and most patrons just sit there and drink. So I told a chica on a really "slow" day. Hey, it's almost midnight, bar's empty, I pay multa +$250, let's go. She never budged from $400. Even as I offered $300 she said no way (I wouldn't pay $300 anyway.)

Memorable experiences at Carolina: there's a chica who wears glasses (forgot the name). Had some fun times with her. She can get a little freaky, so before you pay her, make sure she's been smoking pot and not doing coke. When she's on coke and / or drunk she can be really "unpredictable." Well, some might like exactly that, but you've been warned. Also there her roommate,"Azul" (I think.) Tall, nice long legs, nice body. Medium-size silicones. Has that "indian" (indigenous) look. Had good sessions with her. The best sessions I had was with a chica named 'Kelly" (room #2.) she's only 26, I think she's the youngest chica at Carolina right now. She's cute, but doesn't stand out from the crowd. Usually she just sits next to the wall. All natural, no silicon. The skin is soft like a baby's. If you're nice to her, she's very sweet and is capable of some really hot GFE. I am hesitating about putting her name here, but I hope I'm "helping her out" by doing this. I think she needs $$, and this job is not quite what she thought it would be. Unless she becomes "battle-hardened" barracuda soon, you won't see her on the islands again (and if she becomes a "barracuda," then why would you want to see her?) I was unable to take her out for TLN, but had very long sessions in the room. I bet if you do TLN, you won't be disappointed. If soemone has an old unlocked GSM blackberry she'll appreciate the gift.

Petit Chateou: very nice selections of "dark" girls, both from Colombia and the DR. Many beautiful faces. Many gorditas, gorditas++, and gorditas-XXL, but also many who are in great shape. Girls are more open and will offer you just about anything. The Friday night "VIP" show (starts after mid-night, $20 ticket) is "off the hook."

Bottom line: Seamans wins on the quality of the rooms, good ventilation in the club (very little cigarette smoke inside) and only moderately loud music. El Capitan wins on lower prices in the afternoon. Carolinas wins due to the high number of the "cute" chicas. More than in all other bars combined. Petit wins on the fact that girls that will do almost anything.

2 things that continue to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off is $10 room fee in El Capitan at night (so I only go there during the afternoon) and the extremely loud music and heavy smoke inside Carolinas. When you leave that place, even after 5 minutes inside your clothes smell like cigarette smoke!

Security: every day you hear and see s*t happening to locals, and now to the tourists. Doesn't seem to matter if you're in a "good" part of the island or not. In SXM you have to look over your shoulder and be aware of your surroundings now more than ever before. They're killing the golden goose, and are doing it rather quickly. El Capitan has a security guard on the parking lot (but I bet if something goes down he'll be the first one to run away.) Carolinas has a guy watching the parking lot, and at least 2 more security guys with radios / earpieces and metal detectors (although I saw them use the detector on only 2 out of 5 days I was there.) Carolina is clearly trying to get on top of the security issues, and it is appreciated: I spent most nights@Carolinas. I've not seen any security guards at Seamans or Petit.

/L. S. /Excellent report Lucky, thanks. I have been an island frequenter since 1988. Funny how SXM held its own price wise and quality wise for almost 20 years. Other mongering destinations go south real fast and are never the same.

On SXM there was always a great balance and Variety between the houses the girls the quality of service and everything else. Something for everyone. Oh and it was safe for the most part.

In recent years there has been a boom in construction and awesome hotels of yesterday are now timeshares today. As recent as 2008 TLN was only $250 and bar fines were only $50-$60.

Just before the old Seamans closed down I was there and an Indian shop worker on Front street was murdered during a robbery. (All of those shops are all foreign owned by an Indian. Wonder why there is a problem with the locals having resentment, not reaping the benefits of the tourists shopping? While foreigners are walking away with all the cash? Hardly any locals are employed by the foreigners. The locals get zilch out of the deal. The local gov really dropped the ball on this unless their secret plan all along was to nationalize the retail business of Front and Back Streets in the future). The gap between the haves and the have nots is widening = more crime.

In protest of the murder the shop owners closed down Front Street for a few days.

Oh well, it is what it is.

Baldadig
01-25-11, 22:25
Looking for a buddy.

Hi all,

I'm living in Sint Maarten for a year now.

Well aware of all the places. I can recommend Carolina's and Seamans.

They're still my favorite.

For the regular visitors I have a question.

I'm not comfortable going to those places alone.

My face is in some places familiar to the staff and the girls.

Yet my friend who also loved to be there has other priorities now.

That's why I'm looking for a buddy to visit those places.

Anybody interested?

Chewbacca
01-28-11, 01:47
[QUOTE=Baldadig; 1116315]Looking for a buddy.

I'll be in St. Martin on Friday Feb. 11th, for one night. I'm getting there in the morning and have some business meetings. I would like to hang out with someone who knows the place, but not with my business principals hahaha.

I speak spanish fluently so I can talk to the girls essily. My email is [Email address deleted by Admin] Let me know, I'll be travelling through the islands from next Monday. I'll be staying in Phillipsburg for the night. Do you have phone number? I'll be on roaming, my cell number is (876) 294 1166, and my name is Nick. I've always had a weakness for Colombian girls, in fact I used to live there for a while.

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Chewbacca
01-28-11, 01:51
I'll be in St Maarten on Friday feb. 11th for one night. I don't have a pm ability as I have the free subscription. My email is [Email address deleted by Admin]. My cell is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin], it would be good to hang out with someone who knows the spots.


Looking for a buddy.

Hi all,

I'm living in Sint Maarten for a year now.

Well aware of all the places. I can recommend Carolina's and Seamans.

They're still my favorite.

For the regular visitors I have a question.

I'm not comfortable going to those places alone.

My face is in some places familiar to the staff and the girls.

Yet my friend who also loved to be there has other priorities now.

That's why I'm looking for a buddy to visit those places.

Anybody interested? EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

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Scatqueens
01-29-11, 01:26
Hi all. I would like to mention the place I rented when I was in sxm. It is located in the french side of the island, in Oyster Pond. 5 minutes ride from Seamans, and is owned by a french woman named Maryse Gachot.

http://http://maryse.gachot.pagesperso-orange.fr/

She speaks english. The place is like 43 euros / day. 300euros / week, and is very quiet. For those who are on a budget, it is the most affordable place I could spot.

Scatqueens
01-29-11, 01:43
As an add-on, I would also like to mention a rental company that I used in sxm. It is http://www.empressrentacar.com. Actually I didn't go with them, because they apparently operate only in the dutch side, and I arrived in the french airport and empress told me to go see avis. I rented an automatic chevrolet matiz through avis for 2O bucks a day plus tax (something like 3O dollars for the week) and it was fine. So for those who want to put more money into the ladies it can be of interest.

Siepko Bach
01-29-11, 09:45
as an add-on, i would also like to mention a rental company that i used in sxm. it is.

http://www.empressrentacar.com

actually i didn't go with them, because they apparently operate only in the dutch side, and i arrived in the french airport and empress told me to go see avis. i rented an automatic chevrolet matiz through avis for 2o bucks a day plus tax (something like 3o dollars for the week) and it was fine. so for those who want to put more money into the ladies it can be of interest.where & since when does st maarten have a french airport?

Goga Fung
01-29-11, 18:29
Where & since when does St Maarten have a French airport?There is a small airport on the french side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Esp%C3%A9rance_Airport

Mel365
01-29-11, 18:34
There has been a small airport on the French side as long as I have been going to St Martin.

Small planes only.

Mel

Scatqueens
01-29-11, 18:46
Actually that airport is in Grand Case; but very few companies go there, even air france doesn't. Code is SFG. There also is a small airport in st barthelemy, from where one can easily reach sxm.

Mel365
01-30-11, 04:42
I returned to SXM today from Bogota just until tomorrow.

I went to see Alejandra #2.

At el Capitan. Tanya has gone home.

However Alexandra is a gem and every time I

Am with her it gets better and better. It has now been 5 years.

If you get to be with her just mention her friend with

The boat recommended her. This will probably be her last time working, so she is pulling out all the stops.

Don't miss this one!

Just to add to my previous report, I had a most unusual experience. One of my favorite the chicas is bisexual and mentioned that a French woman came into the club looking for a date.

She actually paid to go to the room. Here is the weird part, my friend mentioned her to me and asked if I would like to entertain both of them. After a nanosecond of thought I said OK. The next afternoon we picked her up at a local beauty salon and went to the boat. She is young and quite attractive. Although I got my satisfaction, it is really interesting to watch two bisexuals go at it. Here is the funny part,

When we dropped her off at her car she paid my friend for BOTH OF US.

Of course I let my friend keep the money. That has got to be one of my top 10 weird experiences.

Mel

Mel365
01-30-11, 04:56
If you need more info about alexandra #2 or want a better description.

Pm me. Have private pix.

Mel

Horny Jim
01-30-11, 12:17
Hi Mel,

If you see Ceceilia can you ask her when she will be back at Campo?

Thanks!


Jim,

I left SXM last night and spent the evening at Campo in CUR.

I will ask her for you in February if you remind me. Campo TNL is cheaper than a hotel. I am now awaiting a DAE flight to Bogota.

Mel

Mel365
01-31-11, 01:58
Sorry,

I am in transit.

Please remind me mid-end of Feb. And I will ask her?

Mel

Horny Jim
01-31-11, 11:47
Ok, have a good time!


Sorry,

I am in transit.

Please remind me mid-end of Feb. And I will ask her?

Mel

Jackzonian
01-31-11, 21:44
I finally got a timeshare opening so I locked it up. But suddenly I see the FLIGHTS are out-of-control! What's up with that? The usual $500+ is pushing into $1000 and $1200 and beyond? Feb 19 thru Feb 26 Is that school vaca week? What's going on? Or is it the fuel prices suddenly after Cairo etc? What am I missing? Anybody have a better idea out of Bos? Thanks any guidance. Jack in boston

LuckyEddie
02-01-11, 01:13
I finally got a timeshare opening so I locked it up. But suddenly I see the FLIGHTS are out-of-control! What's up with that? The usual $500+ is pushing into $1000 and $1200 and beyond? Feb 19 thru Feb 26 Is that school vaca week? What's going on? Or is it the fuel prices suddenly after Cairo etc? What am I missing? Anybody have a better idea out of Bos? Thanks any guidance. Jack in bostonThere has been lots of snow as you know, in the US people have delayed their usual vacations to warm Caribbean, peak season trips.

Airports have been closed and delays and flight cancellations have been rampant with some airllines needing a week to catch up everytime there is a snowstorm. Which seems to be every week.

And there is still talks of snow. So people have been putting things off. Airfare that involves Florida, Hawaii or the Caribbean is out of control for February and March as a good deal of January travelers are now pushed back. People are just gambling that all this snow that was front loaded January means a calm Feb / March snow-wise.

Good luck

Lucky Strike
02-01-11, 01:33
Feb 19-26 is the "president's week" with a 3-day weekend, the peak of the "high season." But still, the prices this winter have been nothing short of outrageous! Much higher than 2008 when oil was as expensive as it is now. Even tickets to Europe in the middle of the winter when nobody is traveling are at least 50% higher than last year.

I went through this earlier in January. Had to use FF miles and take 3- and 4-leg (!) flights to and from SXM from the sh*thole where I currently reside (I wish I just stayed home.) Boston? How's JetBlue doing price-wise? They used to have by far the lowest mid-week prices. I understand that if you have a TS, the mid-week flights don't help you much, but I suppose for the price of US Scare or United you might fly in on JetBlue on Thursday and rent a motel for 2 nights, which would give you 2 extra nights in SXM

L. S.


I finally got a timeshare opening so I locked it up. But suddenly I see the FLIGHTS are out-of-control! What's up with that? The usual $500+ is pushing into $1000 and $1200 and beyond? Feb 19 thru Feb 26 Is that school vaca week? What's going on? Or is it the fuel prices suddenly after Cairo etc? What am I missing? Anybody have a better idea out of Bos? Thanks any guidance. Jack in boston

Jackzonian
02-01-11, 15:56
Yeah, Lucky, what you write makes sense. I looked at Jetblu but they are also doing the Supply / Demand gouge dance. Tuesday remains the cheapest day to fly but I don't have all that much vaca to change from one week to nearly two and it is still in the multi-hundreds one way. And the Wed-Thurs flights at Jetblu also blow. I'm getting jet-blown, not El Capitaine blown, unfortunately. I abandoned the time-share free-bie, suppose I will just get back in my igloo here in Boston. Another 6-12 inches more snow as I write this. What with all the airport crap and flying hassles, there are times that, like you, I wish I had just stayed put at home.

Shark16
02-02-11, 16:42
It is hard to believe it is less than 36 hrs since I was fondling one of the finest ass cheeks in the Carolina bar with those words between me and her. Now I am back home singing the blues after two weeks of sexual debauchery in our tropical paradise island. Oh well.

I hope to get time for a more fully report later, but for now just a couple of quick notes to the discussion between Lucky E and Lucky S a week ago:

Line-ups at the clubs:
My review in short echoes Lucky S in many respects I think:
- Carolina - again - had the hottest looking girls, and I wish I had spent more time there.
- Seaman's became a favorite of mine simply because I clicked so well with some of the girls and had so much fun there! And yes, the rooms and kingsize beds still rock. But the average age of the chica this year was maybe a bit older than I have been used to? Very few below 30.
- I left El Capitan after my virgin visit to this club with some mixed feelings. The facilities I felt was no match to Seaman's. Like in Defiance the water from the shower is coming out of a hole in the wall, free insight at night from the road when you shower with your girl, and small rooms as we got used to at Defiance. But great bar area (like Defiance) and friendly staff. The line-up was nothing to write home about, but there ARE a few exceptions and possibilities for those willing to have a second look. And the location and neon signs are no doubt the best of the three.
Defiance is still closed, and noone I spoke with seemed to think they would reopen. I wish I had made a visit to Petite Chateau. None of the other clubs appeal to me.

TLN rates at Carolina:

- As Lucky S reports many girls will try to quote 400 dollars or higher + multa at 50 for a TLN. But there are still girls there quoting 300 + 50 from 9pm / 10am, or 200 + 50 from midnight to 10 am, or 200 + 50 for a TLD from 11am / 7pm. I will not name the girls in public causing trouble for these girls at the casas, but for my taste it included one of the hottest looking chicas in Carolina right now with great attitude (GFE) and absolutely top notch service. Probably my best TLN ever for 300 + 50. You just need to keep asking around.

Security on the island:

I never saw anything around the casas or the island as a whole that would intimidate me, and I have spent a whole lotta time around the casas in the last couple of weeks - both day and night - trust me.

Of course, I took my precautions (always drove a car, parked close to the casas, stayed (almost) sober, keeping a low profile, left the club with together with others, just brought with me necessary amount of cash and a fake credit card) , but apart from that actually never gave crime a second thought. I was very relaxed. But then again, it may just be me living in a bubble. I never read the local newspaper, and as a visitor I have limited contact with locals. I guess most of us will not experience anything, and then one day you just may be the unlucky one being in the middle of it. And I agree, if so, I doubt the present security will be around to assist. But how many incidents around the casas do we really know of of late - apart from our unlucky sailor?

On second thought, I experienced 3 road blocks by the police during these two weeks, and one arrest was made in broad daylight close to the food store next to Carolina's, and that IS more activity than experienced in previous years, I must admit.

Still, it may have been one of my best trips to SXM ever. I will be back.

Cheers,

S16

Zing23
02-04-11, 19:14
It is hard to believe it is less than 36 hrs since I was fondling one of the finest ass cheeks in the Carolina bar with those words between me and her. Now I am back home singing the blues after two weeks of sexual debauchery in our tropical paradise island. Oh well.Good report. Sorry I missed you, I was in Colombia during that time. One of my all-time favorite girls at Carolinas lives in Bogotá. I met her at 830pm after classes let out and we went to La Candaleria (colonial district with backpakers and students) for a drink in a cafe bar. A really cute 20 year old student started chatting me up. I think it helps make contact with new girls when you are out with a good looking girl. And invited me for lunch and gave me her messenger I'd! You have to love colombianas.

-zing

Mel365
02-05-11, 06:52
I just heard from Tanya room 3 at El Capitan.

I thought she had returned to Colombia, she is still at the club.

A fantastic spinner with nice big natural boobs, very very good.

Mel

Mel365
02-05-11, 06:53
We must have ben in BOG at the same time.

Sorry we did not hook up.

We could have had dinner with our novias.

Keep in touch.

Mel

Baldadig
02-05-11, 13:18
The places are these days especially at night not busy at all.

All lot of girls are complaining about the lack of business.

PogoStick
02-05-11, 15:00
Back in SXM for a few days. Got in fairly late, hit the hotel and cleaned up a bit and out to see the action.

I did my traditional cruise by all the houses. I really thank St Maarten for providing us with a new and improved mongers highway. The road across the salt pond is very beautiful with all the new palm trees and a great paved road. It sure beats the axle busting dirt road thru the dump. The road from Carolinas to El Cap has been redone as well.

Petite looked crowded. Carolinas was packed as well. I saw a few security guards stationed in the parking areas. El Cap looked slow. Casa Blanca was slow as well, but I did see security in the parking lot as well as a guard patting down folks at the door.

I headed to Seamans. Lots of security there as well. I guess the recent incident has been a wake up call and the clubs are stepping up to the plate to provide a safer environment for us. This is a major improvement and I am happy to see it.

In Seamans, I hit the bar and was immediately approached by Sophia. Tall, nice rack, small tight ass and a bit older than some of the rest. No problem for me as I will always be much older than them. I usually say no to the first shark, but she was pretty much the look I was seeking and she was an awesome kisser. So off to her room.

The experience was kind of mixed. She speaks decent English and is a really sweet girl. But the sex was just so so. Covered BJ with great technique, but when I went in for some DATY, she covered her clit with her hand. Didn't mind a good tongue fuck but the clit was totally off limits. Maybe she was sore, or maybe she didn't want to cum. Not sure. But her pussy was one of the cutest I have seen. I would have loved to really eat it for a long time and get her off. She also never completely removed her top, possibly to cover a baby belly. Didn't want her boobs played with either, said they were sore. Other than that, she was nice and tight and was a good lay in that regard.

So overall, I have mixed feelings. On one hand I enjoy her company. On the other hand, I like a lot more play than just fucking. Maybe a second time might be better. Or maybe not. I may try her again next time I go there. But then again, there were some really hot looking chicas in the bar, so I may just have to butterfly at Seamans this trip.

More later.

Pogo

Shark16
02-05-11, 23:09
Good report. Sorry I missed you, I was in Colombia during that time. One of my all-time favorite girls at Carolinas lives in Bogotá. I met her at 830pm after classes let out and we went to La Candaleria (colonial district with backpakers and students) for a drink in a cafe bar. A really cute 20 year old student started chatting me up. I think it helps make contact with new girls when you are out with a good looking girl. And invited me for lunch and gave me her messenger I'd! You have to love colombianas.

-zingHey Zing,
Good to hear you are alive and kicking. Yeah, them colombianas win me over all the time. Having met you and seeing how nice you are treating the girls, it is no surprise they appreciate your company. But I am not sure that dating-a-beautiful-girl-suddenly-makes-a-guy-a-babe-magnet is a colombiana thing. Or even a latina thing. Actually, I think that is pretty universal for the species called f-e-m-a-l-e-s. ;)

I would never claim to fully understand females, but it never stop amazing me how little they trust their own instincts. Let's say you have a normal guy with a normal job (Average Joe) who is singel and not dating much. Women will simply just assume that since no woman is dating him, there must be something wrong with him and refuse giving him a chance for a date, sex, friendship or anything - leaving him in his misery. Now, let's say the same guy is able to break the circle and dating a girl, suddenly all her girlfriends find him attractive and a good catch and want to date him too. And then there is no limit of how many will offer friendship and sex. Oh yeah, they will cheat on their girlfriend, too, just to get his attention! ;) Girlfriends can often become each others worst enemy over a guy.

This is why it is so important to be nice with the girls when you enter the casas for the first time, right? They simply hate to be ignored. I always try to be friendly and speak with all the lovely senoritas in the bar (including girls I may not be interested in bedding), smile to all the chicas, listening to what they have to say, asking how they feel, give as many compliments as I can (it's free!), quicly offer a drink (only 3$), openly showing that I am generous (always tipping the lady behind the bar), and never ever speaking bad about other girls. If I ever see a girl that I have had sex with in the bar, I quickly show my respect (and priority) giving her my "Como esta?" and at least two kisses on the cheeks (not difficult really, most girls I have had sex with tend to be really cute!). She will give you a hard time if you tend to leave her for another, but do it respectfully and honestly, and you will be fine in most cases.

After a couple of visits most chicas in the casa recognize and accept you. If you have played your cards right, you will soon find that you have earned some sort of trust. A guy with money who is nice too? Great! They will greet you with a 'hola' and a smile, hugs and kisses, chat and hang around with you, tease you the way only a latina can, sitting on your lap, bumping to the music, her grin becoming increasingly more satisfied as your little one becomes more and more restless - giggling "que pasa, mi amor?" or "que rico!!" with sultry eyes and that special latina smile ... This tends to lead to good sessions, too. Oh man, I really, really miss my chicas!

At times I spent almost 24/7 for days in the same *****house (Seaman's) flirting with the chicas as I really seemed to click with the girls there. At 3am in the morning I was dead tired, pussy overdosed, but did not really want to get back to the hotel. My favorite three girls all shared the same bed in the same room. I thought that must be pretty crowded.

"Oh no, mi amor. We got plenty of room for you. Vamos!".

Enough said. ;)

Shark16
02-05-11, 23:31
i did my traditional cruise by all the houses. i really thank st maarten for providing us with a new and improved mongers highway. the road across the salt pond is very beautiful with all the new palm trees and a great paved road. it sure beats the axle busting dirt road thru the dump. the road from carolinas to el cap has been redone as well.i really cannot agree more. as others have said before me, the road looks so good it is easy to speed up for us horny mongerers, but let's not forget the speed bumps. there are six of them from the roundabout at "the salt pickers" to the carolina bar, the last three is concentrated around carolina, so be careful out there - irrespective of being horny, drunk or simply just exhausted from certain exercises. ;)

or was it seven? don't shoot me if there there are more than six ... :d

Zing23
02-06-11, 14:47
A new girl at Seamans Club told me that she had arrived from Colombia via Panama City on Copa Air. Then I saw big sign advertising new service by Copy to SXM. Their hub is in Panama and connects to everywhere in Central and South America, and the west coast of the USA. www.copaair.com. The web site shows flights on Tuesday and Friday.

-zing

Mel365
02-07-11, 08:00
I while ago I made mention that the owner of carolinas pointed out a chica Rosie, he said she gave the best BBBJ on the island. When I was in SXM last I took a chance and dialed her phone. I was in luck and after 3 chicas she still got my leche. She is in the carolinas buildng on the right side down the path near the fuel tank. She is in the third room. I believe she must be on island at least a year.

Mel

Buck On89
02-11-11, 04:39
. I would never claim to fully understand females, but it never stop amazing me how little they trust their own instincts. Let's say you have a normal guy with a normal job (Average Joe) who is single and not dating much. Women will simply just assume that since no woman is dating him, there must be something wrong with him and refuse giving him a chance for a date, sex, friendship or anything . Leaving him in his misery.

Now, let's say the same guy is able to break the circle and dating a girl, suddenly all her girlfriends find him attractive and a good catch and want to date him too. And then there is no limit of how many will offer friendship and sex. Oh yeah, they will cheat on their girlfriend, too, just to get his attention! . Girlfriends can often become each others worst enemy over a guy.Ain't that the truth.

Yellow Fever
02-12-11, 09:04
I will be coming in for a day trip on a cruise is there any mongering action during the day?

Shark16
02-12-11, 12:25
I will be coming in for a day trip on a cruise is there any mongering action during the day?The supply of men (passengers and crew) from the cruise ships is a major drive for the business at the casas, so yes, absolutely!

Activity in the daytime can often be seen as proportional to the number of cruise ships in harbour. Lots of cruise ships mean many girls in the bar. Few / No cruise ships mean lesser activity, and the girls will take the opportunity to rest - leaving only a few girls in the bar as watch out's. If a bunch of guys suddenly show up (locals or visitors), be sure it will not take many minutes before the girls also show up in huge numbers. The rumours spread rather quickly in our days with cellular technology.

If you are a loner and the bar is empty, then you may also want to try knocking on the doors in the back. Maybe you have picked up some good room numbers from a website like ISG? No? Well, for February and March let me suggest room # 14 at 19 at Carolina, or #104 at Seaman's, or #15 at El Capitan. But there are many, many other possibilities, too, of course. Just move on, if you are not happy with what you see.

A bar like Carolina opens at 11 am. I am not sure about Seaman's and El Capitan, but it is sometime between 11am- 1pm (do some more reading of reports in this thread for the exact data). Normally there are some sort of activity in the bar untill 4pm. Then the girls have a chance for their siesta at 4- 8 pm, so this period may be a little more quiet (the girls will be shopping, resting, sleeping, showering, brushing up for nightime activities, dressing up for kills). But not always. And if you have made some acquaintances at the casas, the siesta time can be a good time for revisits.

Good luck! And please report back. :)

Cheers,

S16

LuckyEddie
02-13-11, 18:42
The supply of men (passengers and crew) from the cruise ships is a major drive for the business at the casas, so yes, absolutely!

Activity in the daytime can often be seen as proportional to the number of cruise ships in harbour. Lots of cruise ships mean many girls in the bar. Few / No cruise ships mean lesser activity, and the girls will take the opportunity to rest. Leaving only a few girls in the bar as watch out's. If a bunch of guys suddenly show up (locals or visitors) , be sure it will not take many minutes before the girls also show up in huge numbers. The rumours spread rather quickly in our days with cellular technology.

If you are a loner and the bar is empty, then you may also want to try knocking on the doors in the back. Maybe you have picked up some good room numbers from a website like ISG? No? Well, for February and March let me suggest room # 14 at 19 at Carolina, or #104 at Seaman's, or #15 at El Capitan. But there are many, many other possibilities, too, of course. Just move on, if you are not happy with what you see.

A bar like Carolina opens at 11 am. I am not sure about Seaman's and El Capitan, but it is sometime between 11am- 1pm (do some more reading of reports in this thread for the exact data). Normally there are some sort of activity in the bar untill 4pm. Then the girls have a chance for their siesta at 4- 8 pm, so this period may be a little more quiet (the girls will be shopping, resting, sleeping, showering, brushing up for nightime activities, dressing up for kills). But not always. And if you have made some acquaintances at the casas, the siesta time can be a good time for revisits.

Good luck! And please report back. .

Cheers,

S16They guys said he is coming in on a cruise ship. Any casa he goes to during the day should be more than busy enough. He will not be there alone. Also some times all the girls come out even when there are not a lot of ships. Or if the weather is bad. So you may just have many to choose from all by yourself.

The trick kis to get there between noon and 1PM. Too early and you may not see many girls. Most of the cruise ship help work lunch prep on the ship and then head out to get laid or to hang and watch the ladies and have a beer. Everyone back on the boat by 5ish.

Zing is a serious day time guy and hopefully he will post here with a good time. I recommend Seamans. As they are a little more strict with the girls being available. But again, wait for Zing.

The problem is everyone will know you are on the boat and the taxis may just overcharge charge you to get to the house of your choice and then back. A wingman would be a good thing.

"If a bunch of guys suddenly show up (locals or visitors) , be sure it will not take many minutes before the girls also show up in huge numbers. The rumours spread rather quickly in our days with cellular technology."-Shark16.

Technology?

The girls live eat drink and sleep at the casa. They are from other countries only on the island for 3-6 months to work. They are not island residents. No one has to call anyone, they are on site 100 percent of the time unless with a customer. No disrespect but you make it seem as if the girls are somewhere else on the island, not showing up for work on slow days until they get the call from someone in the casa telling them there are many johns who just showed up.

They are not going to waste a costly cell phone call when all they have to do is open the door to the hall and should,"Caro, Nana, Tati, vengan!"

Lucky Strike
02-13-11, 19:36
I will be coming in for a day trip on a cruise is there any mongering action during the day?Yellow Fever,

Carolinas, Seamans and El Capitan are your best daytime options.

Carolinas and Seamans open around 11, and chicas start to come out to "sign in" shortly after. El Capitan opens after 1pm.

If you've in the bar at 11, you'll see just about every girl come out, most in their "normal dress" and not much make-up. It will give you "the big picture" and perhaps you'll pick a chica or chicas that you'd really have to f*k later. Most will "sign in" and disappear into the restaurant, but will be back shortly after. There will be a few in the bar and they will try really hard to get your leche while you're waiting for the hot ones to come out.

In late January the universal complaint from the chicas was that the cruise crew members just drink beer and bullshit with the girls, and very few actually take them for sex. My own very unscientific observation was that even with 4 ships in port, Carolina and Seamans had much fewer visitors than in the past. So, unless things changed dramatically in the last month I wouldn't be worried about having too much of "male competition" (other than Zing of course.)

Even with the least attractive lineup El Capitan was busier than the other two, but most customers arrived around 2pm. Perhaps it's because the chicas in El Capitan charged $40 and no room fee during the day (vs. $50-60 in Carolina / Seamans +$3 for the room.)

Good luck and be careful if you are alone or decide to walk between the clubs. Leave the jewelry, rolex, iphone 4G and the wallet with the credit cards on the ship, carry only as much cash as you might need: $60 X the number of leche extractions plus some cash for taxis, tips, beer, drinks for the chicas.

Shark16
02-13-11, 20:33
No disrespect but you make it seem as if the girls are somewhere else on the island, not showing up for work on slow days until they get the call from someone in the casa telling them there are many johns who just showed up.Well, I am sorry if my sentence on "technology" was misleading. I think we all know the girls live 24/7 at the casas (unless they are with a client) and can agree they quickly show up if the guys show up.

As to which of the three clubs is best in daytime I think Lucky S' observations are pretty good. But Zing is King, let's wait for his intel.

Ath Trainer
02-13-11, 23:47
I will be coming in for a day trip on a cruise is there any mongering action during the day?How often does a guy leave / sneak away from a cruise ship to go to one of the "bars" and then runs into someone else from the ship that they previously didn't know?

Cruse ship workers can go mongering all the time. There lack of going to the room could be part affordability, and part "no big deal" factor.

I've only gone mongering here during the day a couple times when my departing fight was later in the afternoon. I definitely noticed the girls who are the first ones in the bar were very aggressive at times. The late arrivals and the in and out girls were usually more attractive.

4 months away from my return.

Zing23
02-14-11, 01:33
Thanks for the confidence. I have been in the casas in the afternoon a lot recently. I agree with most of what has already been posted.

Each guy has his own requirements. I need serious loving at my age to keep it up and enjoy myself. My preference is Seamans Club. Because the girls are not quite as beautiful as Carolinas, on average, they try harder, they appreciate a good client more, and they show up in the bar shortly after 11am. Every Day, even today, Sunday, which was very quiet in St Maarten.

At Carolinas, the number of girls in the bar peaks about 1230pm to 130pm, but this depends on the number of cruise ships in port. Many girls will be in their rooms resting or talking or watching a movie on a quiet day. HOWEVER, you can complain to the bartender (between 11 and 4) and he or the owner's wife will go thru the halls demanding that the girls get up and hit the bar. I have seen this many times. 5 to 8 guys in the bar and only 1 chica, quickly taken.

Although the girls at Carolinas can be a bit harder to connect with, if what you want is eye candy and a quick pop, they are quite hot and talented. And I have had my share of great connections there as well, just took longer to find them.

El Capitan is more hit or miss. Opens about 1pm, most girls in the bar by 2pm, gets an after work crowed at 430pm or so. The girls are generally a small step below Seamans in looks, but still several beauties, and I made 2 good "girlfriends" there last year. Of course I am very generous too.

Summary: go to Seamans first. If you don't like what you see after 15 minutes and one $2 drink, head over to Carolinas. And you can come back, sometimes the most popular girls are tied up for a hour and show up later. You can walk between the 3 cllubs easily.

You can get back to the cruise ship in about 5 to 10 minutes, depending upon time to round up a taxi.

-zing

Shark16
02-18-11, 23:11
Just have to share this photo with you guys. This poster used to hang in the left corner of the old Seaman's , and I am glad to see this fine tradition is being continued in the "new" casa. You will now find the sign right inside the entrance of Seaman's before you start walking the stairs to the bar.

Wise words. It should be followed by any mongerer worldwide.

146361

LuckyEddie
02-19-11, 16:56
Just have to share this photo with you guys. This poster used to hang in the left corner of the old Seaman's, and I am glad to see this fine tradition is being continued in the "new" casa. You will now find the sign right inside the entrance of Seaman's before you start walking the stairs to the bar.

Wise words. It should be followed by any mongerer worldwide.

146361I totally miss the ols Seaman's. From what I hear there is just no way El Capitan even comes close. I've got 20 years with the old Seamans. I wish I had more photos of the old place.

Shark16
02-20-11, 13:34
I totally miss the ols Seaman's. From what I hear there is just no way El Capitan even comes close. I've got 20 years with the old Seamans. I wish I had more photos of the old place.So true! Old Seaman's has a special place in my heart. It can never be replaced. Still, I cannot see why anyone would not want to see the new Seaman's, too. IMO it has many of the qualities you found at the old place (girls try harder) and some new (best rooms on the island with kingsize beds / aircon). When Zing says this is his #1 casa on the island, it certainly tells me something.

El Capitan really reminded me of Defiance (now closed). The bar (girls dancing on the bar table) , the rooms (small, bad a / c and mosquitofilled) , the line-up (contrary to Seaman's and Carolina it has that dominicana / colombiana mix). And of course, it has the same owner. No, not the same standard as Seaman's and Carolina, but IMO still too good to be ignored. The line-up may seem substandard at first glance, but take a second look and you may find what you are looking for.

The same applied for Defiance when it was still open. It was IME always my #3 pick of casas on SXM, but back in '08 I may have had the best experience of my p4p life in that place with Daisey of fame, who really was my queen of tranquility / sensuality. Rumours say she was back in Campo (Curacao) late last year, but according to my intel she left quickly again just before Christmas (in case anyone wonders).

Lucky E, I am sorry I do not have any more photos of the Old Seaman's - other than what has previously been posted on ISG. But for nostalgia's sake I attach herewith a couple of the best. This is the best picture I found from the entrance 146497 (taken by Zing I believe), and this one is the only one from the bar146496 (taken by yours truly). Take a look at the poster in the left corner by the TV ... haha! :)

Enjoy!

LuckyEddie
02-22-11, 19:14
So true! Old Seaman's has a special place in my heart. It can never be replaced. Still, I cannot see why anyone would not want to see the new Seaman's, too. IMO it has many of the qualities you found at the old place (girls try harder) and some new (best rooms on the island with kingsize beds / aircon). When Zing says this is his #1 casa on the island, it certainly tells me something.

El Capitan really reminded me of Defiance (now closed). The bar (girls dancing on the bar table) , the rooms (small, bad a / see and mosquitofilled) , the line-up (contrary to Seaman's and Carolina it has that dominicana / colombiana mix). And of course, it has the same owner. No, not the same standard as Seaman's and Carolina, but IMO still too good to be ignored. The line-up may seem substandard at first glance, but take a second look and you may find what you are looking for.

The same applied for Defiance when it was still open. It was IME always my #3 pick of casas on SXM, but back in '08 I may have had the best experience of my p4p life in that place with Daisey of fame, who really was my queen of tranquility / sensuality. Rumours say she was back in Campo (Curacao) late last year, but according to my intel she left quickly again just before Christmas (in case anyone wonders).

Lucky E, I am sorry I do not have any more photos of the Old Seaman's. Other than what has previously been posted on ISG. But for nostalgia's sake I attach herewith a couple of the best. This is the best picture I found from the entrance.

146497

(taken by Zing I believe) , and this one is the only one from the bar.

146496

(taken by yours truly). Take a look at the poster in the left corner by the TV. Haha! .

Enjoy! I will totally check out all casas on return. I liked Defiance in the daytime. I don't think that will re open. Shark16. Thanks so much for posting those pics. If you have more please send them my way. Yes I see the "What goes on here stays here" poster. The bottom half was in French if I remember correctly and not Dutch.

A long time ago all I really needed was Seamans and for late night anything goes Casa Blanca. Angel Priest, Kappers / Border bar and the like were good for one thing or another but Seamans was all that mattered. There was no Carolinas. I did meet one of my all time favs in Carolinas and fined her for about 9 days straight.

But at Seamans you could just hang out in the bar for a few hours in the daytime to get out of the heat. Drink a few Guiness Foreign Extras (the best Guiness. 7.5% and a much richer taste. I can't even drink the regular swill anymore. And at the time it was not available in the US. Then Seaman's banned it in 2006 for being too strong. Hehehe).

It was always a great party atmosphere and a cheap bar that was always good, even if there had been no working girls. I hope the new place has the same feel. Nothing beats getting out of the disney land hotel and over to a gritty place where the old salts would hang. It was like preserved old school that I thought would never change. The inside look and feel was as it was since 1988, before the boardwalk, before the big dock (most cruise ships had to tender in their passengers) , before the Copecouy super highrises, before the Maho and Caravaserai complexes and such. The thing that always remained a constant for me was Seamans.

And the girls inside of course. Always a tremendous variety in looks and body types and also as to what they would do in the bedroom. Plus the bar fine at night was $60 to the house and $200-$300 for the girl (2005 ish).

Shark16
02-23-11, 13:12
Man, you know the history of the p4p scene on the island A LOT better than me. My first visit was in 2004 ...

As to what you are looking for at "new" Seaman's compared to my latest experience in January '11:

- Cheap bar: Can't confirm anything about the Guiness, but the merchandise are plentiful, pretty cheap and the staff friendly (same staff?). I wonder, however, if you may like El Capitan bar even better. More local people and rowdier / darker. Still friendly staff/locals/girls. You just need to check them both out (and Carolina) and make up your own mind.

- Party atmosphere: Is something lost here? Maybe because this year the island is somewhat quieter? Or because the bar is somewhat larger? Or newer and brighter? Don't get me wrong, at times this place can be rocking. Music can be loud (but not as loud as at Carolina's). As Zing says, there are more girls present early in the day at Seaman's than any other place.

- Gritty place: Don't worry, even though clubs are new / renovated, there is no sign of Disney in this neighbourhood! ;) Still, when you rebuild / renovate, some things will always be lost. It is hard to explain ...

- Software (chicas!) : They treated me so nice and was the main reason for me spending more time at Seaman's than anywhere else. Variety in looks, bodytypes and service standards are confirmed, and if I understand your profile correctly you may want to chase the tail of Cecilia. ;)

Multa at 60. IME the girls will ask for 400 dollars for a TLN. Even though it is high season, I have a feeling it can easily be negotiated down to at least 300 (depending on expected business in the club on that actual day, popularity of the girl, and your service demands). This time around I did "the Mel trick" and accepted the amount requested, but negotiated more hours (like keeping the girl to 4pm in stead of driving her back in the morning).

The general feeling was, however, that Carolina had more beautiful and younger girls, and El Capian more darker girls. That's how I experienced it in January anyway. But there is a constant change in the line-up as the three-month visas are expiring, so it's always smart to have more than one look in all of these casas.

Happy hunting!

Oh, and some more classic photos of "Old Seaman's":
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146648

Mel365
02-24-11, 00:20
Defiance will open one day in the next 6 months. That is the skinny I get.

The chicas can get a visa for as long as 6 months, and some I know have been on the island a year.

Mel

LuckyEddie
02-25-11, 00:40
Thanks. Especially for the photos. I never liked to hang out in Carolinas but it is the new place and they do get some smoother more polished and lighter skinned babes. I like a variety and some of my best times were with darker Dominicanas in Casa Blanca.

Also and more importantly I have NEVER been to SXM between Dec and March. All my trips are ALL always low season and a typical year is 3 times a year. 10 to 14 dats each, between April and the first week in August.

When the visa was 3 months a lot of girls wanted to be back in their home country by Aug-Nov so there were some good starts from May-Aug, island quieter, cheaper, less traffic, less competition at the bars and plus I like to bet on baseball. Only problem is that a good amt of construction and fix up happens during this time at some hotels. Never an issue for me.

Knoteebuoy
02-25-11, 19:02
Any one know what happened to the floating bar in Simpson Bay called the LADY C? This was a hang out for some of the locals and a great place to go late afternoons for a few cold beers and some local knowledge. They also had great ribs. When I was in Sint Maarten in January this floating bar was gone. I checked and she was not on the bottom so I presume the boat was either moved for repairs or has disappeared for good. I may have to do a Simpson Bay bar crawl to find the scoundrels and scalawags that use to frequent the Lady C. They were an interesting and funny bunch.

I will be in Sint Maarten next week (March 1st through 8th) if any one is interested in sharing a few drinks and tales of adventure PM me. In the mean time I cannot wait to get my ass out of the frozen north eh!

Baldadig
02-26-11, 00:32
I don't know what's up with this bar lately.

When I come there the girls just sit there playing with their phones.

It seems that they don't want to be there. Totally uninteresting.

I had lots of good times there.

But in the other clubs the girls are more active and friendly.

Especially in Seamans. For me and my friends Carolinas is definitely not number 1 anymore.

What are your thoughts?

Shark16
02-26-11, 16:32
I think you are spot on with describing the girls at Seaman's as more active and friendly. They definetely 'stole' both my time and money in January with their sweet personality and anything goes attitude.

In order to succeed at Carolina I believe you need to be more proactive yourself. Take the initiative, buy a few drinks, sweettalk, whatever. It takes some time, but at the end of the day you get rewarded as the girls at Carolina are younger and more beautiful than elsewhere. They are also just as sweet to hang out with as the chicas at Seaman's once you get to know them, and service standards can be just as high if you meet the right girl.

At the end of my vacation I suddenly felt a connection with the Carolina girls, and I just knew I should have spent more time with them. Thinking back, my TLN with a Carolina girl was probably the highlight of my trip.

Well maybe. There were so many highlights! :)

Ath Trainer
02-26-11, 17:40
Do certain clubs "always" have the.

-prettiest girls?

-most aggressive girls?

-laziest girls?

-most service oriented girls?

If you are on the island at a certain time of year and check out the action in the clubs, you can say that right then, club X has the (fill in the blank) girls. A couple months later, when the clubs get new girls, this may change. Do any of the guys who are lucky enough to be on the island regularly, feel that certain clubs usually have certain types of girls? This could be because of their sources for girls, their choice of girls, or maybe how they treat / train / encourage their girls. Opinions, please.

Green8121
02-26-11, 17:57
Do certain clubs "always" have the.

-prettiest girls?

-most aggressive girls?

-laziest girls?

-most service oriented girls?

If you are on the island at a certain time of year and check out the action in the clubs, you can say that right then, club X has the (fill in the blank) girls. A couple months later, when the clubs get new girls, this may change. Do any of the guys who are lucky enough to be on the island regularly, feel that certain clubs usually have certain types of girls? This could be because of their sources for girls, their choice of girls, or maybe how they treat / train / encourage their girls. Opinions, please. Along with this can anyone tell me the location of Carolina's. It has been a very long time since I have been to SXM. From the sounds of it the new Seamans was built right next door to where the old one was. I never have been to Carolina's though.

Any Help?

LuckyEddie
02-26-11, 22:06
Do certain clubs "always" have the.

-prettiest girls?

-most aggressive girls?

-laziest girls?

-most service oriented girls?

If you are on the island at a certain time of year and check out the action in the clubs, you can say that right then, club X has the (fill in the blank) girls. A couple months later, when the clubs get new girls, this may change. Do any of the guys who are lucky enough to be on the island regularly, feel that certain clubs usually have certain types of girls? This could be because of their sources for girls, their choice of girls, or maybe how they treat / train / encourage their girls. Opinions, please. Mel would know this but it seems that the clubs have their "Scouts" in other countries. Like Colombia. It seems that Carolinas usually gets lighter skinned boob job types from Medellin. Which explains the laid back, pick me Up attitude as that is how the girls generally are.

Back in the day Casa Blana was all Dominicana and as soon as you bellied up to the bar there was a girl on either side of you sliding her hand inside the leg of your shorts and grabbing raw cock.

Other places seem to have more girls from Cali. Like Seaman's and those girls are outgoing and fun.

I would doubt that Seamans has a scout in Cali and one in Bogotá and another in Medellin and also one in Barranquilla and another in Monteria (with they did!) , so it seems reasonable that one house is going to have a good percentage (40-60%) from one area.

Lucky Strike
02-26-11, 23:53
Do certain clubs "always" have the.

-prettiest girls?

-most aggressive girls?

-laziest girls?

-most service oriented girls? -prettiest girls?

Depends on your definition of pretty (light / dark, thin / thick, Colombia / dr / trinidad, etc)

-most aggressive girls?

Casa Blanca, without a doubt. You'll have to physically restraint some of them or they won't leave you alone.

-laziest girls?

Those bars that have most "9s" and "10s"

-most service oriented girls?

Used to be Defiance. The "old" Seamans had its share. Now IMHO it depends on the "chemistry"

-Do any of the guys who are lucky enough to be on the island regularly, feel that certain clubs usually have certain types of girls?

Definitely! And it's not just "certain clubs," but all the clubs and at all times: each club has the same / very similar set of working girls year round and, for that matter, the same type of clientele. I guess they know what their customers prefer, and that's the type of chicas they bring to work for them.

Lucky Strike
02-27-11, 00:20
I don't know what's up with this bar lately.

When I come there the girls just sit there playing with their phones.

It seems that they don't want to be there. Totally uninteresting.

What are your thoughts? Balding, I've noticed exactly the same attitude: in the afternoon after the girls approached every guy in the bar and didn't "score" and in the evening when they approached every guy and didn't "score" again. Yes, when they're not making money they definitely do not look like they want to be there. The cruise crews and even Chinese / indians don't seem to spend nearly as freely as they've have in the past. The biggest source of income for Carolina chicas during the "high season" seems to be TLNs with private jet pilots, captains of the private yachts, etc They "take out" 2, 3 or 4 girls, pay $400-500 per night and on top of that have plenty of pot and coke in their hotel rooms. So the chicas don't have to hustle for $50 when they have "easy" $500 coming their way a few hours later.

Shark16
02-27-11, 12:23
along with this can anyone tell me the location of carolina's. it has been a very long time since i have been to sxm. from the sounds of it the new seamans was built right next door to where the old one was. i never have been to carolina's though.

any help? directions to carolina (and le petit chateau and crystal club):

ok, i'm going to steal from routard's legendary report of '05 and make a few updates:

they are all on the same track. it starts at the roundabout close to the police office on the north part of phillipsburg, on the road along the salt pond. this roundabout is clearly marked "the salt pickers" with statues of salt pickers (honoring an important part of island history). at "the salt pickers" (our starting point km 0) , you'll notice a building with "university" spelled on in. just take that road toward the university ("soualiga road"). the road go straight ahead, but slow down because of speed bumps. on your right you will see a stadium, on your left you have "le petit chateau" (400m from the starting point). go further, and after 1 km (2/3 us mile) and 6 speed bumps you will have "crystal club' on your left and on your right 'carolina' in front of crystal club.

the carolina bar is not marked with any names, and this photo of the building may therefore come handy:146864

directions to el capitan and seaman's:

once at carolina you should be aware that you are very close to el capitan and seaman's. just continue soualiga road to arch road and make right on this road (by "johnie's", a food store) untill you meet suckergarden road. turn left, drive some 50 yards, and then turn left on 146868 (sometimes referred to as the "dirt road"). you will then have el capitan on your left right away, while you will see seaman's 200 yards further up the road (see photo146867. this little google map will explain further what i just said: 146865

el capitan is the only building of the three which is clearly named (see this photo.146866). it is also the only building with neon lights at night (looks like a circus!) and can therefore be suggested as a visual guidling light at night.

a small detail is that about a year ago there used to be a big sign at the crossroad of suckergarden/umbrella cactus road showing you the way to seaman's (see photo 146869). this sign has been removed, so you just need to know you have to drive 200 yards past el capitan on umbrella cactus road to get there.

green is no firstimer to the island, but for any other firstimer zing's guide to sxm is mandatory reading http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2040-links-to-reports-of-distinction&p=912106&viewfull=1#post912106 which also includes directions to the other clubs, together with more photos of the clubs http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2040-links-to-reports-of-distinction&p=962144&viewfull=1#post962144 and even more http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2040-links-to-reports-of-distinction&p=962144&viewfull=1#post962144.

as of date gps does not work well on the island, but here is a report from a guy who tried: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1844-st.-maarten-(the-southern-dutch-side)&p=1074959&viewfull=1#post1074959.

hope this helps.

cheers,
s16

Shark16
02-27-11, 15:37
Hey guys,
I am thinking maybe a quick shortlist of clubs on SXM can be handy for firsttimers, but need help with the various data. Below is a raw draft for such a list. It is probably inaccurate with lots of flaws, so any input would be appreciated!!

I am fully aware there can be a huge difference between high and low season, but let's say this list reflects the situation in winter 2011 (high season). I have included the 8 casas and 3 strip clubs that I am aware of on this tiny island:

CASAS (BARS) :

Carolina, Suckergarden.
- Number of girls: 25- 30.
- Etnicity: Colombianas.

Casablanca, Oyster Pond.
- Number of girls: 25- 30?
- Etnicity: Predominantly Dominicanas?

Crystal Club, Suckergarden.
- Number of girls: Around 5?
- Etnicity: Dominicanas?

Defiance, Defiance (Lower Princess Quarter). Note: Temporarily closed!
- Number of girls: 0 (previously 10- 15)
- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.

El Capitan, Suckergarden.
- Number of girls: 20- 25.
- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.

Petite Chateau, Pond Island (Great Salt Pond)
- Number of girls: 10- 15.
- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.

Seaman's, Suckergarden.
- Number of girls: 25- 30.
- Etnicity: Colombianas.

Sunset Retreat, Lower Princess Quarter?
- Number of girls: Around 10?
- Etnicity: Predominantly Dominicanas?

STRIP CLUBS:

Bada Bing, Simpson Bay (close to Juliana airport)
- Number of girls: 20- 25?
- Etnicity: Mostly latinas?

Golden Eyes, Simpson Bay.
- Number of girls: Around 25.
- Etnicity: A mix of EE girls (mostly Russians / Ukrainians) and latinas (Colombianas)

Platinum Club, Maho Beach.
- Number of girls: Around 50.
- Etnicity: Mostly Russians / Ukrainians with a few Romanians and latinas (Colombianas / Brazileiras)

You Can
02-28-11, 20:23
Was looking for a little help here! I have done a little reading here on St. Maarten, but haven't found what I was looking for. Thinking about a trip to the island in a couple months and was wandering if there were bars that I could walk in and have some drinks that have alot of working girls that are available for say 100. Us per night. I hate casas where you walk in pick a girl, have an hour session and leave. I would rather pick a girl up, take her to dinner, drinking and dancing then home for some fun. Maybe in the morning go to the beach or she could go home all for 100. Us per night. Is this possible? I just got back from maybe my 15th trip to Cartagena and that is how I rolled and what I paid. Any help is appreciated and it would be best to just pm me. Again thanks for any help and I always to to give back on my trips as much as possible.

Mel365
02-28-11, 22:45
All of the Places mentioned by Shark have eat in or take out.

In house 30-50 USD for 1/2 hour

Take out is 200-400 USD plus multa, till the morning. Usually the Chicas want to leave 1st thing as they want to be back between 9:30 and 10:30. If you want them to stay for the morning and afternoon, you will have to negociate that.

They work from 11 or 12 till 4pm-then they are free until 7 or 8PM. Then the cycle starts again.

These Chicas are trying to earn 8-12k a month after expenses.

Unfortunately this is not Colombia. If you are looking for Colombia prices I would suggest you go to Colombia.

Do you like Carteghena, more than Santa Marta or Rododero? If so why?

Mel

PogoStick
02-28-11, 22:58
Hi You Can,

It is very doubtful that you'll get TLN for $100. You have to remember that he chicas leave Colombia and go to SXM because the wages are much better. At $50 a pop with a fast shooter or two they can make the $100 in an hour.

At home, they have fewer expenses and can live on much lower wages. In SXM they have to pay daily rent on the room plus pay down their contract which covers transportation costs, visas, medical checks etc. They would go broke at $100 TLN.

There are ways to work around it a bit. You can wait until she is through for the night, around 2am and there won't be a multa. If she really likes you, she might go for free or for a small amount just to be treated nicely, have a hot shower or bath and sleep in a comfortable bed. The downside is that you'll have a tired, worn out chica that just wants to sleep. The last thing she will really be interested is another penis poking around her sore spots. And if you take her out for a late night dinner, she may nod off at the table.

You can also pick a girl up in the morning and head to the beach or your hotel for the day but she will have to be back at a certain time and she may not be available on busy multi-ship days. Afternoons at most of the clubs are a bit more relaxed about time. I have often spent an entire afternoon in bed with a chica for $100. It works best if she really likes you.

The only other option in the Caribbean would be Campo in Curacao. At Campo she is a true independent contractor who can charge what she wants for whatever amount of time she wants. If a chica likes you a lot she can let you stay with her for the night. Prices are negotiable and you save on a hotel. I had one refuse my money in the morning because I made her feel like a real novia and not a worker. (I slipped some money into her desk when she was in the bathroom) They can also go out during the day. There will still be a multa to take her out for the night but her fee is up to her.

Otherwise, for a quality TLN in SXM figure $300-400 including multa. Again, the final price might vary depending on how much she likes you. (see a recurring theme here?)

Have fun!

Pogo.


Was looking for a little help here! I have done a little reading here on St. Maarten, but haven't found what I was looking for. Thinking about a trip to the island in a couple months and was wandering if there were bars that I could walk in and have some drinks that have alot of working girls that are available for say 100. Us per night. I hate casas where you walk in pick a girl, have an hour session and leave. I would rather pick a girl up, take her to dinner, drinking and dancing then home for some fun. Maybe in the morning go to the beach or she could go home all for 100. Us per night. Is this possible? I just got back from maybe my 15th trip to Cartagena and that is how I rolled and what I paid. Any help is appreciated and it would be best to just pm me. Again thanks for any help and I always to to give back on my trips as much as possible.

PaulGore
03-01-11, 02:39
Hi You Can,

It is very doubtful that you'll get TLN for $100. You have to remember that he chicas leave Colombia and go to SXM because the wages are much better. At $50 a pop with a fast shooter or two they can make the $100 in an hour.

At home, they have fewer expenses and can live on much lower wages. In SXM they have to pay daily rent on the room plus pay down their contract which covers transportation costs, visas, medical checks etc. They would go broke at $100 TLN.

There are ways to work around it a bit. You can wait until she is through for the night, around 2am and there won't be a multa. If she really likes you, she might go for free or for a small amount just to be treated nicely, have a hot shower or bath and sleep in a comfortable bed. The downside is that you'll have a tired, worn out chica that just wants to sleep. The last thing she will really be interested is another penis poking around her sore spots. And if you take her out for a late night dinner, she may nod off at the table.

You can also pick a girl up in the morning and head to the beach or your hotel for the day but she will have to be back at a certain time and she may not be available on busy multi-ship days. Afternoons at most of the clubs are a bit more relaxed about time. I have often spent an entire afternoon in bed with a chica for $100. It works best if she really likes you.

The only other option in the Caribbean would be Campo in Curacao. At Campo she is a true independent contractor who can charge what she wants for whatever amount of time she wants. If a chica likes you a lot she can let you stay with her for the night. Prices are negotiable and you save on a hotel. I had one refuse my money in the morning because I made her feel like a real novia and not a worker. (I slipped some money into her desk when she was in the bathroom) They can also go out during the day. There will still be a multa to take her out for the night but her fee is up to her.

Otherwise, for a quality TLN in SXM figure $300-400 including multa. Again, the final price might vary depending on how much she likes you. (see a recurring theme here?)

Have fun!

Pogo. You do not have to spend a lot of money on these hoes you are the one in power. You have what they want and it is MONEY. Treat with some respect but not to much cause they do not respect you cause your are a gringo and stupid in there minds. Try to play there game there way ahead of us mongers on this ISG site all around the world site. You have to understand women do not think with a litle head

Yellow Fever
03-08-11, 22:46
Well went shopping this past Saturday, Carolina, El Capitans and Seamans. Carolina and Seamans had all Colombian woman and El Capitans had both Colombianas and Dominicans. Actually ate in at Carolinas with Luna and with a tall beauty at Seamans. Wish I could remember her name but she was stunning.

YF

Knoteebuoy
03-12-11, 20:04
Just returned from a week in Sint Maarten. Had a great time. Spent most of my time at Carolina's and a bit at Seaman's. I did drop into El Captains but did not see as many girls to my liking so left after one beer.

All in all I found both Carolinas & Seaman's had lots of beautiful ladies to my liking. I am partial to tall slender Colombian ladies with pretty faces & nice boob's. I found a real beauty at Carolinas and visited her several times. Unfortunately I am terrible with names; sorry. I found a few ladies to my liking at Seaman's as well.

I decided to sample one of the ladies at Seaman's and had a very pleasant experience. She took me to a second floor room with a private garage below. The room had a private entrance, which lead to a nicer room that those located on the ground floor. The room was larger and nicer furnished than the others. There was even a large whirlpool tub. My new friend was also very accommodating. She provided a nice CBJ followed by a variety of positions. All in all it was quite good.

My regular lady friend at Carolinas was a tall slender beauty from Columbia. She provided a real GFE and had a gorgeous rack. They looked man made but felt very natural. So I am not sure which they were. Either way I enjoyed. She also was very accommodating in the positions department. She is only in Sint Marrten for about 10 more days. After which she told me she would be in Curacao then Aruba.

I think part of what attracted me to this one particular girl, aside from being drop dead gorgeous, was the fact she spoke English. I do not speak Spanish. Being able to communicate easily helped to establish that GFE chemistry. I have been able to get that good feeling through body language (groping & grinding) with other non-English speaking girls but the ability to communicate easily made for a better connection.

All in all I did not sample as much variety as usual but did enjoy the quality of service provided. Looking forward to my next visit already.

Vitrea
03-13-11, 01:56
Hi You Can,

It is very doubtful that you'll get TLN for $100. You have to remember that he chicas leave Colombia and go to SXM because the wages are much better. At $50 a pop with a fast shooter or two they can make the $100 in an hour.

Otherwise, for a quality TLN in SXM figure $300-400 including multa. Again, the final price might vary depending on how much she likes you. (see a recurring theme here?)

Have fun!

Pogo. Agree with pogostick. You definitely can't get TLN for $100 in SXM. $300 including multa is probably the best you can do, given that you want to take them to dinner and that means leaving early evening before they start the shift. The main reason is that the girls (good looking ones) actually can make close to that much or more if they stay in the club. It works in CTG because. Well let us not go there.

Jimbo5656
03-13-11, 14:57
Are any of the clubs (either strip club or "brothel") open to couples? Are the girls willing do have 3somes and girl / girl?

If not, where would the best place be to find this?

Zing23
03-14-11, 14:43
Both Seamans and Carolinas have a lot of new girls in the last week. And of course some old favorites have left or are leaving this week.

-zing

Mel365
03-15-11, 04:14
There are a number of bisexual chicas at both El Capitan, petite Chateau, and Seamans. I do not know about Carolinas.

When you enter the clubs just ask a chica if she likes other chicas. If she does not ask her if she knows one. They will usually direct you to one or two. What you do not want is a "show" where 2 chicas are just faking it.

Also across the parking lot from the adult toy box in Simpson bay is a bar called meet and greet. You enter with your date and exchange for another woman. There are also a few rooms in the back.

To confirm Zings report, I was waiting at the airport last week for my novia from Colombia on a tourists visa. There were two other men waiting to pick up some cute chicas that were also coming to work. It was the Copa flight from Panama.

Interestingly enough, the new tourist visa allows multiple entries of up to 30 days each for a total of 6 months.

Mel.

Mel

Lucky Strike
03-15-11, 07:01
I was waiting at the airport last week for my novia from Colombia on a tourists visa.

MelSo, it's easier to get a visa to SXM than to the USA?

Mel, how much do colombians have to pay to get this type of visa to SXM and what's the wait time? Do you know if it's also good for aruba and curacao?

Thanks!

L. S.

Shark16
03-15-11, 23:03
Hey guys,
Here is final version of the shortlist of clubs on SXM (8 casas + 3 strip clubs). The intention is merely to give firsttimers to the island a quick overview of the p4p scene in our tiny but beautiful tropical paradise island.

It does not, however, try to give any feel of which clubs is 'best', as each club has its own unique atmosphere, and guys are different with various needs and preferences. I suggest you read a few of the latest reports to get the feel of which clubs that suit YOU best.

A big thank you to everybody who contributed with their feedback making this list as accurate as possible (you know who you are)!

CASAS (BARS) :

Carolina, Suckergarden.
- Number of girls: 30- 50.
- Etnicity: Colombianas.
- A / C: Yes, good.
- Pricing: 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex)
- GPS coordinates N18. 03500 W63. 04203.

Casablanca, Oyster Pond.
- Number of girls: 25- 30?
- Etnicity: Predominantly Dominicanas?
- A / C: None.
- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex)?
- GPS coordinates N18. 05598 W63. 02246.

Crystal Club, Suckergarden.
- Number of girls: Around 5?
- Etnicity: Dominicanas?
- A / C: None.
- Pricing: 30- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex)?
- GPS coordinates N18. 03500 W63. 04203.

Defiance, Defiance (Middle Region). Note: Temporarily closed!
- Number of girls: 0 (previously 10- 15)
- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.
- A / C: None.
- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex).
- GPS coordinates N18. 04631 W63. 03449.

El Capitan, Suckergarden.
- Number of girls: 20- 25.
- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.
- A / C: Yes, poor*
- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex).
- GPS coordinates N18. 03506 W63. 03992.

Petite Chateau, Pond Island (Great Salt Pond)
- Number of girls: 10- 15.
- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.
- A / C: Yes, poor*
- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex).
- GPS coordinates N18. 02972 W63. 04454.

Seaman's, Suckergarden.
- Number of girls: 25- 30.
- Etnicity: Colombianas.
- A / C: Yes, good.
- Pricing: 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex).
- GPS coordinates N18. 03592 W63. 04120.

Sunset Retreat, Middle Region.
- Number of girls: 25- 30.
- Etnicity: Predominantly Dominicanas?
- A / C: None?
- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex)?
- GPS coordinates:?

STRIP CLUBS:

Bada Bing, Simpson Bay (close to Juliana airport)
- Number of girls: 20- 25?
- Etnicity: Mostly latinas?
- A / C: Yes?
- Pricing: 30 (lap dance / song)?
- GPS coordinates N18. 04103 W63. 09925.

Golden Eyes, Simpson Bay.
- Number of girls: Around 25.
- Etnicity: A mix of EE girls (mostly Russians / Ukrainians) and latinas (Colombianas)
- A / C: Yes, good.
- Pricing: 30 (lap dance / song).
- GPS coordinates N18. 03705 W63. 09484.

Platinum Club, Maho Beach.
- Number of girls: Around 50.
- Etnicity: Mostly Russians / Ukrainians with a few Romanians and latinas (Colombianas / Brazileiras)
- A / C: Yes, good.
- Pricing: 30 (lap dance / song)
- GPS coordinates N18. 04289 W63. 11969.

Notes:
- The information in this shortlist is not necessarily 100% accurate and should be regarded as indication / guideline only. The most uncertain data are marked with question marks. If you detect any flaws, please feel free to mention it in a report or pm.
- 'Number of girls' is an approx. figure as experienced in winter/spring 2011 (high season). Expect the figures to be somewhat lower in low season.
- A / C: *You need to pay 3 dollars in advance for every 30 mnts of a/c you plan staying in the room with a/c switched on at El Capitan / Petite Chateau.
- The pricing given for the casas is the going rate for one basic short session of approx. 20 (30) mnts. which include CBJ/sex. For one hour the price is doubled.
*Whether other services as BBBJ, DFK or DATY are included is up to the girl to decide. You just need to try your luck and charm out there.
*Expect to pay an additional room fee of about 3 dollars per 30 mnts. at the casas. Excepted are El Capitan, Petite Chateau and Defiance, where the rooms are free in daytime but 10 dollars per 30 mnts after 8 pm.
*The pricing for the strip clubs is given for one song that normally lasts 3- 5 mnts.
- None of the casas ask for entrance fees. Expect to pay 10 dollar to get in at the strip clubs (will get you one free drink).

Still, if you are new to the island, Zing's guide to SXM is the best introduction to the scene you can imagine and mandatory reading for any firsttimer http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...l=1#post912106. It includes:
- directions to all the clubs.
- maps of the island with all the clubs filled in.
- photos of the clubs (Important detail: Many clubs no not have name signs.).
- casa etiquette.
- chica Spanish for beginners.
- classic SXM reports.
- & then some!

Buck On89 has taken some of the best photos of the casas in two reports here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1844-St.-Maarten-(The-southern-Dutch-side) &p=962063&viewfull=1#post962063 and here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1844-St.-Maarten-(The-southern-Dutch-side) &p=962064&viewfull=1#post962064

If you find this report helpful and visit the beautiful island of St. Martin, then my wish is that you show your appreciation by giving a report back to the forum with your own experiences. Keep us updated on what's new on the island!

Happy hunting! :)

Shark16
03-16-11, 00:09
... is http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2040-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=912106&viewfull=1#post912106.

I am sorry this was not correct in the below report.

Jimbo5656
03-16-11, 02:15
Have you been to the Meet and Greet bar? What types of patrons. Locals, tourists? Do the strippers do lapdances for couples (and get ultra friendly in the private rooms?)

Shark16
03-16-11, 13:48
Hey Jimbo,
Sorry, I have not been to the Meet & Greet bar myself and can't really provide any useful info. As a swinger's place it IS an interesting addition to the bar scene in SXM, although I am not sure it should be seen as a part of the p4p scene. You are not paying for sexual services at this place, are you? Still, I too would have liked to know more about the place.

I have not brought any girlfriends to the strip clubs myself, but quite often you can observe couples there (both young and old). Like in the casas, I would assume that some strippers are better than others to serve couples, but I do not have any more details than that. You just need to keep asking around.

Generally speaking, and from a solo male experience, I would say that the strippers at Platinum Club IME are the most beautiful, professional and provide highest mileage when lapdancing. Allegedly the more lap dances you pay for, the more mileage you get. Personally I do not see value for money at the strip clubs and never pay for more than 2- 3 dances just for the fun of it. You are way better off spending your money at the casas IMO.

Mel365
03-17-11, 03:39
This is a small bar. Mostly tourists. If you do not have a date one can be provided.

I think you might give it a try after 8:30 9pm.

Mel

Jimbo5656
03-28-11, 01:08
What is the setup at clubs like Casa Blanca and Seamans? Do the girls just hang out at the bar or do they also dance and mingle with the patrons? Are they strictly taking customers to their rooms or are lapdances available as well?

Lucky Strike
03-28-11, 08:00
What is the setup at clubs like Casa Blanca and Seamans? Do the girls just hang out at the bar or do they also dance and mingle with the patrons? Are they strictly taking customers to their rooms or are lapdances available as well?Yes, the girls mingle and often dance with patrons. You'll probably score "extra points" if you're good salsa dancer.

I'm sure it's possible to get a lapdance from the chicas, although lapdances is not something that most patrons in Seamans and especially Casa Blanka have on their mind.

Mel365
03-28-11, 08:14
I will be in SXM Monday March 28 1 Pm for a week. Any wingmen interested.

Pm me.

Mel

Horny Jim
03-28-11, 13:19
Hi,

Does someone know if Cecilia is still staying at Seaman's? She is a dark skinned spinner from Santa Marta. If you happen to meet her would you be so kind to ask her when she will come again to Curacao?

Thanks

Rjsss212
03-28-11, 18:28
Hi,

Does someone know if Cecilia is still staying at Seaman's? She is a dark skinned spinner from Santa Marta. If you happen to meet her would you be so kind to ask her when she will come again to Curacao?

ThanksShe seems your sole reason for posting. Just get her number...

Horny Jim
03-29-11, 00:50
She seems your sole reason for posting. Just get her number.Rjsss212,

Great idea. Thank you for your suggestion. Do you have her number?

Rjsss212
03-29-11, 12:28
Rjsss212,

Great idea. Thank you for your suggestion. Do you have her number? All right, go ahead and post her vitals. I will be there next month so I (or anyone else reading this) can ask around for you.

Horny Jim
03-29-11, 13:04
All right, go ahead and post her vitals. I will be there next month so I (or anyone else reading this) can ask around for you.Thank you very much for your "help". Have a nice day!

Zing23
03-30-11, 00:26
Great idea. Thank you for your suggestion. Do you have her number?Cecilia is still at Seamans, as of last Friday. I have her number there, her number in Colombia, her address in Colombia and her email. Of coure it is against the forum rules to post any of those numbers here. I doubt she will be going to Curacao again, as she would like to retire and open a retaurant.

No need to apologize for being fixated on her. Cecilia knows more about the male body than any other woman I have slept with. And she is a fun, nice person as well. One friendly suggestion: if you are in the habit of visiting prostitutes, you are no doubt spending hundreds or thousands of dollars. Why not pay Jackson to become a full member so you can send and receive message?

-zing

Horny Jim
03-30-11, 01:17
Cecilia is still at Seamans, as of last Friday. I have her number there, her number in Colombia, her address in Colombia and her email. Of coure it is against the forum rules to post any of those numbers here. I doubt she will be going to Curacao again, as she would like to retire and open a retaurant.

No need to apologize for being fixated on her. Cecilia knows more about the male body than any other woman I have slept with. And she is a fun, nice person as well. One friendly suggestion: if you are in the habit of visiting prostitutes, you are no doubt spending hundreds or thousands of dollars. Why not pay Jackson to become a full member so you can send and receive message?

-zingZing, I completely agree with you about this girl. She's a gem. I've considered to become a full member but for privacy reasons I decided not to do it (now, maybe later on). Happy mongering.

LuckyEddie
03-31-11, 18:32
What is the setup at clubs like Casa Blanca and Seamans? Do the girls just hang out at the bar or do they also dance and mingle with the patrons? Are they strictly taking customers to their rooms or are lapdances available as well?Everythng is available especiually if you are tipping a little in the bar. The good thing is you get to interract before going back to the room, which is nice.

Prizren
04-01-11, 20:17
Imet a Colombian girl Cecilia a few month ago in El Capitano (she was absolutly over the top. A recommendation from Mel!). Is it the same Cecilia in Seamean's Club? Have a good day.

Mel365
04-04-11, 03:43
The Cecelia I was referring to was Cecelia at Seamans the same Cecelia as Zing reported on.

Mel.


Imet a Colombian girl Cecilia a few month ago in El Capitano (she was absolutly over the top. A recommendation from Mel!). Is it the same Cecilia in Seamean's Club? Have a good day.

PapaMac
04-08-11, 02:39
I'm going to be on the island Wednesday for a meet and greet cruise stop. Prolly hit seaman's first then Carolina's if time permits. Anyone down to meet up and exchange stories, send me a pm.

Mac

Zing23
04-10-11, 02:04
I did a circuit of the clubs this afternoon. Here are my observationsL.

Seamans is still my favorite. Girls come in all sizes and shapes, from tiny to jumbo size, mostly Colombianas but a few Dominicanas too. I went to the room with one of my previous favorites who is leaving soon. Excellent hour!

Petit Chateau has a stripper bar with purple indirect lighting. I ran into several nice looking and friendly girls in there today. Took a Colombiana to the room. Nice, but no BBBJ and no cigar. Remember to ask for airco if that is important to you (it costs $3 extra).

Carolinas has mostly new girls since 3 weeks ago. Mostly hot, dark hair, silicon tits, a few black Colombian girls (also hot) , a couple of blondes (also hot). Did not partake.

El Capitan. Mostly Dominicanas. Tanya the Colombiana is still there. Actually looks hotter than before. Did not partake with anyone.

Back to Seamans. It appears that a few of my favorites, such as Cecilia, are gone. Decided to try a new girl, friend of my girl from earlier today. She appreciated the BFE I gave her, but I didn't have any bullets left to really enjoy the GFE that she offered in return. But a nice hour anyway.

-zing

Zing23
04-11-11, 01:11
I was in Seaman Club again today and discovered that Cecilia is still there, not gone as I suspected the day before.

-zing

Lucky Strike
04-18-11, 23:04
http://www.thedailyherald.com/islands/1-islands-news/15971-two-more-brothels-allowed-moves-made-for-more-controls-.html

I hope the "old" Defiance is going to be re-opened.

Zing23
04-19-11, 02:14
Driving past defiance the last 2 days I noticed that the door to the bar is open and there are workmen there. Looks like painting and construction. Perhaps there is hope that Defiance will reopen.

Went into Carolinas restaurant for lunch. The Spicy beef special meat is recommended with fried rice. Low carbs if you give most of the rice to a girl, great flavor, spicy, cheap. The restaurant is a good place to size the girls up. Lots of bright sunshine, unlike in the bar, reveals any flaws. I would say that now the lineup at seamans club is slightly better looking.

Took 2 girls to Orient Bay to have lunch and enjoy the beach. Late in the afternoon one of my girls noticed that among the group of north american women next to us, two were kissing. Turns out they were probably all lesbians. One asked me how I got two such beautiful girls for myself at the beach. Then started flirting with them and they were all taking pictures together and she asked if they could go with her to a neaqrby bar and dance on the table tops together. Being conservative colombian girls they said no, but I think at Carolinas this group could have hooked up easily with some hot girls!

-zing

Ath Trainer
04-19-11, 12:08
http://www.thedailyherald.com/islands/1-islands-news/15971-two-more-brothels-allowed-moves-made-for-more-controls-.html

I hope the "old" Defiance is going to be re-opened. I would like to add an amendment that all girls must be hott and have sex addictions, LOL.

Mel,
Any current info. on Defiance? Thought they were being held up due to paperwork issues.

Ath Trainer
04-19-11, 12:10
Driving past defiance the last 2 days I noticed that the door to the bar is open and there are workmen there. Looks like painting and construction. Perhaps there is hope that Defiance will reopen.

Went into Carolinas restaurant for lunch. The Spicy beef special meat is recommended with fried rice. Low carbs if you give most of the rice to a girl, great flavor, spicy, cheap. The restaurant is a good place to size the girls up. Lots of bright sunshine, unlike in the bar, reveals any flaws. I would say that now the lineup at seamans club is slightly better looking.

Took 2 girls to Orient Bay to have lunch and enjoy the beach. Late in the afternoon one of my girls noticed that among the group of north american women next to us, two were kissing. Turns out they were probably all lesbians. One asked me how I got two such beautiful girls for myself at the beach. Then started flirting with them and they were all taking pictures together and she asked if they could go with her to a neaqrby bar and dance on the table tops together. Being conservative colombian girls they said no, but I think at Carolinas this group could have hooked up easily with some hot girls!

-zingWhat was your reply when they asked you about the girls?

Mel365
04-19-11, 15:04
The owner of Defiance is the brother of the director of the Minister of tourism and economic affairs.

Mel

Zing23
04-20-11, 00:47
What was your reply when they asked you about the girls?I said I was a nice guy, and I speak Spanish. Which is all true. The girls love getting out the club and to the beach with a guy they can trust. After I translated for my girls, the younger one of my 2 came over to my lounge chair and cuddled up in my lap and gave me a kiss.

-zing

Mel365
04-22-11, 06:27
I will be on island 4/27-5/10 pm me if you want to get together.

Mel

PapaMac
04-23-11, 19:49
Happened to be on the island for a cruise stop last Wednesday. Took a cab to Seamans for $5, from the pier. Stayed from 11-4. Had a great time. Don't remember names, but there was a great selection of Colombians, Dominicanas, and even a white girl from Africa. I prefer Colombians, so that's who I spent my time with the most.

I went to VIP 4 with one of the girls. It is a second floor large room with a glass walled shower, separate spa tub, vaulted ceilings. Really nice room for a brothel. I think this girl didn't live on site as I needed to pay $3 for the room. I didn't ask, just enjoyed ourselves! Other girls I experienced had small rooms that were a bed in the room, with a shared bath.

Took a taxi back to the pier, with one of the guys parked in the Seaman's lot, was $8. Probably ripped me for $3, but who cares. He had party materials for purchase anyways.

Had a great time. Much better than snorkeling with a cruise excursion!

SomeDayNL
04-25-11, 07:30
Today all the women from el capitan had to move to le petite chateau and the women from petite chateau went to el capitan. Defiance opens pretty soon and fifteen girls from el capitan have to go in defiance. That's what a girl from there told me today. So if you had a honey in one of the bars you know where to find her.

Proost Someday

Mel365
05-01-11, 22:59
Defiance is open with10-12 chicas taken from both El Capitan and Petite Chateau.

Otherwise all the Chicas are in the same Clubs. The owner is not going to add any chicas at this time.

Cecelia at Seamans is leaving Tuesday, too bad for those of you who did not meet her.

Zing, Routard, and I had a wonderful reunion on Saturday.

The big news is that Bada Bing by the airport received a license for a Club.

I have this info from a very reliable source that the club is now open for sex upstairs. Colombianas and Dominicanas, however it is 100 dollars instead of 40-50. Makes good sense as there are so many tourists in the area.

Mel

Elect
05-04-11, 00:04
Hi,

If I understood, since today, at the badabing, you can pay 100$ to any strippers and go upstairs for full service?

Zing23
05-08-11, 00:04
If I understood, since today, at the badabing, you can pay 100$ to any strippers and go upstairs for full service? I went to BadaBing last night. It is located next to the airport. Coming from philipsburg, you turn left. at the road just before the runway.

It is a strip club lounge, typical north america style. About 25 girls, half Doninicanas and half Colombianas. Nice looking, but not better than the regular brothels. There was no charge to enter on Friday night. They open at 10pm and stay open until 5am.

A normal drink is $10 for you or her. A lap dance in a private room is $40. The girls live in rooms upstairs and you can have sex with the girl for $200. Since I wasn't planning to partake at that price, I didn't find out how nice the rooms are, how good the service, how long you get, how many shots, etc. Sorry.

I thoght maybe the cute Calena that I was talkingt with might be available during the day to go out. But I don't think that is feasable. They go to sleep at 6am or so. But they have to be back in the adjoining bar / restaurant at 5pm so they really only have time to sleep, wash their hair, clean up, do their email and return to work. They are in the bar / restaurant until 8 I think, then have a short break. I was there at 10:01pm and every girl was there ready to go,

Interesting option for those tourists in the neighborhood who get excited in a strip club and may see the $200 price as reasonable.

It seems to me that with 9 clubs and very few customers, the island is over serviced with brothels.

-zing

Zing23
05-08-11, 00:11
Defiance has re-opened. I went in yesterday afternoon. The girls are in the bar or available from about 1pm to 4pm, then again for the night, starting about 8pm. The bar has some new paint, but it is the same place, rooms are as shitty as ever, with no airco and plumbing that barely functions.

Girls are dark-skinned, pretty, about half Dominicans and half Colombians. I recognized them from El Capitan and Petite Chateau. Tonya, who is a very cute friendly Colombian is there,

I sampled a tall black Calena and had an excellent time, cooled somewhat by her fan.

No charge to go to the room in the afternoon, probably $10 at night as in old days. No clock watching in the afternoon. Pay whatever you negotiate. I always pay $100 for an hour but I am sure they would take less.

By the way, one morning this week, a guy hit me up for $10 so he would have $40 to get a girl at Seeams just before 11am. They first girl ha approached turned him down, he tried another, perhaps she said no also. He was a strange looking young guy. The next day someone told me that the morning before this same guy had robbed a girl at Carolinas at knife-point.

-zing

Zing23
05-08-11, 14:22
I was in Defiance last night at 8pm and Carolina at 820pm and most of the girls were in the bar or just entering. When I went to Seamans, there were just a few girls. I asked one why they weren't all there and she said they have to sign in by 930pm, not 8pm. I observed the girls signing in as 930 approached. So if you want to see most of them, go at 915pm and wait for 30 minutes.

Many of my favorite girls have left or are leaving this week. Sigh. I will miss them.

-zing-

Georgest
05-09-11, 02:59
Thank you Zing for all of your reports, This makes Fase Dos in Medellin a bargain for $100 and I am sure the selection in Medellin is much better. I was thinking to take a trip to Saint Marteen, but now after hearing the prices I will save my money and go to the source.


I went to BadaBing last night. It is located next to the airport. Coming from philipsburg, U-turn left. At the road just before the runway.

It is a strip club lounge, typical north america style. About 25 girls, half Doninicanas and half Colombianas. Nice looking, but not better than the regular brothels. There was no charge to enter on Friday night. They open at 10pm and stay open until 5am.

A normal drink is $10 for you or her. A lap dance in a private room is $40. The girls live in rooms upstairs and you can have sex with the girl for $200. Since I wasn't planning to partake at that price, I didn't find out how nice the rooms are, how good the service, how long you get, how many shots, etc. Sorry.

I thoght maybe the cute Calena that I was talkingt with might be available during the day to go out. But I don't think that is feasable. They go to sleep at 6am or so. But they have to be back in the adjoining bar / restaurant at 5pm so they really only have time to sleep, wash their hair, clean up, do their email and return to work. They are in the bar / restaurant until 8 I think, then have a short break. I was there at 10:01pm and every girl was there ready to go,

Interesting option for those tourists in the neighborhood who get excited in a strip club and may see the $200 price as reasonable.

It seems to me that with 9 clubs and very few customers, the island is over serviced with brothels.

-zing

Zing23
05-10-11, 21:34
Thank you Zing for all of your reports, This makes Fase Dos in Medellin a bargain for $100 and I am sure the selection in Medellin is much better. I was thinking to take a trip to Saint Marteen, but now after hearing the prices I will save my money and go to the source.Sorry if it wasn't clear from the postings, the price at the other 8 clubs in St Maarten is $40 or $50. This new club is in a more touristy more expensive area, where there are 3 expensive american style strip clubs. Bada bing used to be a normal strip club until 2 weeks ago!

Main clubs are seamans and carolinas. There are in phillipsburg, in a low rent area. Same type of girls as at bada bing. About the same quality as you see in el centro strip clubs in Medellin, but a little older on average.

-zing

Vitrea
05-15-11, 12:04
Thank you Zing for all of your reports, This makes Fase Dos in Medellin a bargain for $100 and I am sure the selection in Medellin is much better. I was thinking to take a trip to Saint Marteen, but now after hearing the prices I will save my money and go to the source.Not entirely an accurate assumption. For one, the chicas at Fase II are not any better. Bada Bing a year ago was better and Platinos in SXM was way better than Fase II. Also, you have more than Colombianas (Russians, bulgarians, Romanians and I even ran into a chick from Moldova) in SXM strip clubs.

The real value of SXM is in the brothels such as Seamens and Carolinas and not at Stripclubs but I like the ambiance of stripclubs. So I do both.

SlamCity7777
05-16-11, 04:58
Hey guys,

Here is final version of the shortlist of clubs on SXM (8 casas + 3 strip clubs). The intention is merely to give firsttimers to the island a quick overview of the p4p scene in our tiny but beautiful tropical paradise island.

It does not, however, try to give any feel of which clubs is 'best', as each club has its own unique atmosphere, and guys are different with various needs and preferences. I suggest you read a few of the latest reports to get the feel of which clubs that suit YOU best.

A big thank you to everybody who contributed with their feedback making this list as accurate as possible (you know who you are)!

CASAS (BARS) :

Carolina, Suckergarden.

- Number of girls: 30- 50.

- Etnicity: Colombianas.

- A / C: Yes, good.

- Pricing: 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex)

- GPS coordinates N18. 03500 W63. 04203.

Casablanca, Oyster Pond.

- Number of girls: 25- 30?

- Etnicity: Predominantly Dominicanas?

- A / C: None.

- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex)?

- GPS coordinates N18. 05598 W63. 02246.

Crystal Club, Suckergarden.

- Number of girls: Around 5?

- Etnicity: Dominicanas?

- A / C: None.

- Pricing: 30- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex)?

- GPS coordinates N18. 03500 W63. 04203.

Defiance, Defiance (Middle Region). Note: Temporarily closed!

- Number of girls: 0 (previously 10- 15)

- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.

- A / C: None.

- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex).

- GPS coordinates N18. 04631 W63. 03449.

El Capitan, Suckergarden.

- Number of girls: 20- 25.

- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.

- A / C: Yes, poor*

- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex).

- GPS coordinates N18. 03506 W63. 03992.

Petite Chateau, Pond Island (Great Salt Pond)

- Number of girls: 10- 15.

- Etnicity: A mix of Colombianas / Dominicanas.

- A / C: Yes, poor*

- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex).

- GPS coordinates N18. 02972 W63. 04454.

Seaman's, Suckergarden.

- Number of girls: 25- 30.

- Etnicity: Colombianas.

- A / C: Yes, good.

- Pricing: 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex).

- GPS coordinates N18. 03592 W63. 04120.

Sunset Retreat, Middle Region.

- Number of girls: 25- 30.

- Etnicity: Predominantly Dominicanas?

- A / C: None?

- Pricing: 40- 50 (20- 30 mnts CBJ / sex)?

- GPS coordinates:?

STRIP CLUBS:

Bada Bing, Simpson Bay (close to Juliana airport)

- Number of girls: 20- 25?

- Etnicity: Mostly latinas?

- A / C: Yes?

- Pricing: 30 (lap dance / song)?

- GPS coordinates N18. 04103 W63. 09925.

Golden Eyes, Simpson Bay.

- Number of girls: Around 25.

- Etnicity: A mix of EE girls (mostly Russians / Ukrainians) and latinas (Colombianas)

- A / C: Yes, good.

- Pricing: 30 (lap dance / song).

- GPS coordinates N18. 03705 W63. 09484.

Platinum Club, Maho Beach.

- Number of girls: Around 50.

- Etnicity: Mostly Russians / Ukrainians with a few Romanians and latinas (Colombianas / Brazileiras)

- A / C: Yes, good.

- Pricing: 30 (lap dance / song)

- GPS coordinates N18. 04289 W63. 11969.

Notes:

- The information in this shortlist is not necessarily 100% accurate and should be regarded as indication / guideline only. The most uncertain data are marked with question marks. If you detect any flaws, please feel free to mention it in a report or pm.

- 'Number of girls' is an approx. Figure as experienced in winter / spring 2011 (high season). Expect the figures to be somewhat lower in low season.

- A / C: *You need to pay 3 dollars in advance for every 30 mnts of a / see you plan staying in the room with a / see switched on at El Capitan / Petite Chateau.

- The pricing given for the casas is the going rate for one basic short session of approx. 20 (30) mnts. Which include CBJ / sex. For one hour the price is doubled.

*Whether other services as BBBJ, DFK or DATY are included is up to the girl to decide. You just need to try your luck and charm out there.

*Expect to pay an additional room fee of about 3 dollars per 30 mnts. At the casas. Excepted are El Capitan, Petite Chateau and Defiance, where the rooms are free in daytime but 10 dollars per 30 mnts after 8 pm.

*The pricing for the strip clubs is given for one song that normally lasts 3- 5 mnts.

- None of the casas ask for entrance fees. Expect to pay 10 dollar to get in at the strip clubs (will get you one free drink).

Still, if you are new to the island, Zing's guide to SXM is the best introduction to the scene you can imagine and mandatory reading for any firsttimer.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...l=1#post912106.

It includes:

- directions to all the clubs.

- maps of the island with all the clubs filled in.

- photos of the clubs (Important detail: Many clubs no not have name signs.).

- casa etiquette.

- chica Spanish for beginners.

- classic SXM reports.

- & then some!

Buck On89 has taken some of the best photos of the casas in two reports here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1844-St.-Maarten-(The-southern-Dutch-side) &p=962063&viewfull=1#post962063

And here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1844-St.-Maarten-(The-southern-Dutch-side) &p=962064&viewfull=1#post962064

If you find this report helpful and visit the beautiful island of St. Martin, then my wish is that you show your appreciation by giving a report back to the forum with your own experiences. Keep us updated on what's new on the island!

Happy hunting!Thanks Shark16! I thought that this should be back up on the first page as it's the overview I was looking for and I'm sure others would like to see. I usually post on the Colombia and Argentina boards so if ya'll have any questions about Colombia LMK.

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LuckyEddie
05-16-11, 22:17
Thanks Shark16! I thought that this should be back up on the first page as it's the overview I was looking for and I'm sure others would like to see. I usually post on the Colombia and Argentina boards so if ya'll have any questions about Colombia LMK.Perhaps someone can update shark's list to include what the TLN (and daytime) bar fines are for the girls at each place. Meaning what you have to pay the house to take her out. NOT the prive you negotiate with the girl.

Just a thought. My last time there was June 2009 just before Seaman's moved from the original site.

Shark16
05-16-11, 22:52
Firstly, thanks for all the thumbs up for the shortlist. It's appreciated.

My TLN / TLD experiences are limited so the following is all I have (from Januray 2011) :

Carolina's:
- TLN: Multa at 50 dollars.
- TLD: Multa at 50 dollars.

Seaman's:
- TLN: Multa at 60 dollars.

I took some of the Seaman's girls out of the club in the afternoon without multa (say around 3- 4 pm till 8 pm), but that's the girls' siesta time, so it is not given that girls will work that time of day. There is probably a multa if you take her out from opening (11am).

There is probably no multa at night if you wait until 2- 3 am to take her out. At least that's what I heard at Seaman's.

Unless someone else is rewriting the shortlist (like frequent visitors like Zing or Mel? Please?) I am happy to keep it updated. In that case I need more input. Please PM me or make a report and I will present a revised shortlist within a couple of weeks. As some of you may have noticed it needs an update already (Meet & Greet, Defiance has reopened, Bada Bing with extended (and expensive) services, different line-up at some of the clubs,...).

Ath Trainer
05-16-11, 23:29
Firstly, thanks for all the thumbs up for the shortlist. It's appreciated.

My TLN / TLD experiences are limited so the following is all I have (from Januray 2011) :

Carolina's:

- TLN: Multa at 50 dollars.

- TLD: Multa at 50 dollars.

Seaman's:

- TLN: Multa at 60 dollars.

I took some of the Seaman's girls out of the club in the afternoon without multa (say around 3- 4 pm till 8 pm) , but that's the girls' siesta time, so it is not given that girls will work that time of day. There is probably a multa if you take her out from early morning.

There is probably no multa at night if you wait until 2- 3 am to take her out. At least that's what I heard at Seaman's.

Unless someone else is rewriting the shortlist I am happy to keep it updated. In that case I need more input. Please PM me and I will redraft and present a revised shortlist within a couple of weeks. As some of you may have noticed it needs an update already (Meet & Greet, Defiance has reopened, Bada Bing with extended (and expensive) services, different line-up at some of the clubs.). I look forward to your updated version. Will be on the island in about 5 weeks. Would love to print out the updated version to refresh my memory and update current info. As the plane begins it's decent to SXM. Will do my darnest to check as much of your work out for accuracy, LOL. Will tell you, and everyone else how we both scored.

Shark16
05-17-11, 23:17
Thanks! Nothing beats giving back to the forum.

I will do my very best to provide an updated list, though I realize that my one annual visit to the island is inadequate for giving you all updated lists on a regular basis. I am therefore heavily depending on that someone is giving me the lowdown here.

Sure, I can do a search through this thread, but the risk is that such info, if any, is outdated. So any fresh intel from everyone is highly appreciated.

I have a feeling that the bar fine (multa) at Casablanca / Defiance / El Capitan / Petite Chateau used to be very high at night. Can anyone confirm?

Rasjohnny
05-19-11, 12:49
Stopped at Crystal Club a couple weeks ago, here is a short summary of my experience.

Quiet and relaxed atmosphere. The bar and lounge area seems to have been renovated recently. It is quite nice actually. It was not very busy when I went in (at about 2:00pm in the afternoon). There were about 3-4 girls there at the time all Dominicano and one other customer. Had a vodka soda, priced at 5 USD.

The bartender, a very pleasant lady set me up (I don't speak spanish) with a sweet heart, slim, dark haired girl in her mid twenties (girlfriend material actually). Three USD for the room and 50 USD for the girl.

In the back there is some renovation ongoing. The room was clean and comparable to rooms I have been to, in some of the more popular clubs, AC included. Definitely a session to remember, and based on this experience I will include it in my future club crawls. I hope though the experience wasn't a pne off.

Zing23
05-23-11, 13:54
INSEL air has new service to Medellin from Curacao, twice a week. You can connect on Insel from St Maarten. The price for the flight I checked was the same as DAE from Bogota to St Maarten, but the Saturday flight left Medellin at 630 in the morning, so I passed this time.

-zing.

P. S. A lot of girls are using the twice weekly Copa flight to Panama to connect to Cali, Medellin, Pereira and other cities in Colombia, instead of taking DAE to Bogota via Curacao.

Prizren
05-28-11, 18:13
Hi, I will be the next week for a few days in SXM. Any recent recommendations? I'll visit Seamen and Carolina of course but if there is any special " chica".

Shark16
05-29-11, 18:25
Ok, this is far from being the high quality report that I hoped it would be. I have had very limited feedback to the request for updated bar fines, my connections visit the same clubs as me and have basically nothing to add, and the info in this thread is basically old and probably outdated. So the information I have gathered in this report is questionable - based on everything from personal experience and qualified guesses to wild guesses and hearsay.

The uncertain data is also the reason that I at this stage opt not to include bar fines as a part of the shortlist and in in stead make a separate report. But here we go:

Reliable data:

Carolina's:
- TLN: Multa at 50.
- TLD: Multa at 50.

Seaman's:
- TLN: Multa at 60.
- TLD: Multa at 60.

These data are based on reliable sources within the last 6 months. Most TLN / TLDs are reported from these two clubs, and my guess is that the reason behind it is that - apart from being known to have a good selection of pretty and serviceminded girls - the multas are affordable, i.e. the clubs see take outs as a major part of their business strategy.

Uncertain data:

El Capitan / Petite Chateau / Defiance:
- TLN: 120- 170? (120-300?)
- TLD: 25?

I have not been able to have recent bar fines confirmed (the figures above are more than one year old). As these three clubs have same owner I am assuming bar fines are the same (though it may not necessarily be so).

Compared to the "typical" take-out clubs (Seaman's and Carolina) , these clubs are known to have very high bar fines for TLNs, but favourable bar fines for take-outs in daytime. Why? I am only guessing here, but I think that their business strategy is to be a little bit different from Seaman's / Carolina's making an effort on the nighttime entertainment (girls taking turns dancing on the bar table, arranging different kinds of shows and events) , i.e. they are more dependant that girls are present at night. To that you may add that the line-up there are usually only the half of what is the standard line-up at Seaman's / Carolina's, so girls on TLN's will hurt them more.

The favourable bar fines in daytime I assume is to compensate for the tougher conditions at night.

No data:

Casablanca / Sunset Retreat / Crystal Club / Bada Bing.

I think I recall bar fines at Casablanca were ridiculously high, but that is a rumour from years back. I have nothing on the other clubs.

Some general thoughts on bar fines (multas) :
- There are probably no multas at any of the clubs if you wait until closing time (typically 2am / 4pm).
- In addition to the multa to the club you obviously also compensate the girl. The total amount to be paid (girl + multa) is everything from 200- 400 (usually 300- 400) for a full night (lesser after midnight or full daytime).
- My guess is that a girl from one of the clubs with higher bar fines cannot quote higher for a TLN (multa included) than the girls from the clubs with affordable bar fines (same market value), but they will say no as they will earn more in the club than on a TLN.

Ok, that's all I had. This report is not flawless, so please feel free to enlighten us with your own intel! :)

Cheers,
S16

SomeDayNL
05-31-11, 22:34
Uncertain data:

El Capitan / Petite Chateau / Defiance:

- TLN: 120- 170? (120-300?)

- TLD: 25?

I have not been able to have recent bar fines confirmed (the figures above are more than one year old). As these three clubs have same owner I am assuming bar fines are the same (though it may not necessarily be so).

I was at St Maarten from Friday 20 of may till Monday 23 of may. I took a girl from El Capitan and I paid 157 dollar for tld and tln. Tld was 50 dollar and Tln 107. The girl told me the multa was the same for Defiance and Le Petite Chateau because of the same owner.

Cheers Someday_nl

Shark16
05-31-11, 23:24
Thanks for the update! At least I was in the right direction ... :)

Ath Trainer
06-04-11, 13:46
To: Anybody currently / recently on SXM.

From: Me.

Re: Chica suggestions.

I will be visiting SXM in about 3 weeks for only 5 days. I only get here once a year and like to have some suggestions from the experts who have been here recently, so I don't waste my limited time, and even more limited leche on the wrong girls. I know that everyone's taste is different and that YMMV. With that being said, does anyone have any suggestions for my upcoming visit.

If you would rather PM me with the details, feel free. As always, I will give complete reports of my trip, with chica and island info.

Thanks!

Baldadig
06-10-11, 01:32
To: Anybody currently / recently on SXM.

From: Me.

Re: Chica suggestions.

I will be visiting SXM in about 3 weeks for only 5 days. I only get here once a year and like to have some suggestions from the experts who have been here recently, so I don't waste my limited time, and even more limited leche on the wrong girls. I know that everyone's taste is different and that YMMV. With that being said, does anyone have any suggestions for my upcoming visit.

If you would rather PM me with the details, feel free. As always, I will give complete reports of my trip, with chica and island info.

Thanks! Hi.

I live on SXM and I'm a regular visitor of the clubs.

In order for me to give recommendations I need to know what you are looking for.

You cannot PM me because I'm a free member and cannot reply back.

On further note.

TLD for Seamans is incorrect.

When you take girls out in the morning till 18. 00 there's no multa.

SomeDayNL
06-10-11, 01:43
To: Anybody currently / recently on SXM.

From: Me.

Re: Chica suggestions.

I will be visiting SXM in about 3 weeks for only 5 days. I only get here once a year and like to have some suggestions from the experts who have been here recently, so I don't waste my limited time, and even more limited leche on the wrong girls. I know that everyone's taste is different and that YMMV. With that being said, does anyone have any suggestions for my upcoming visit.

If you would rather PM me with the details, feel free. As always, I will give complete reports of my trip, with chica and island info.

Thanks! I took Alejandra from El Capitan for two day's. She's a 28 year old black girl from Colombia, Bogota I believe She was very nice slim goodlooking, but she spoke no english and I did not ask for BBBJ or sex without condom, but for me she was a nice GFE.

Enjoy your stay

Ath Trainer
06-10-11, 11:04
Hi.

I live on SXM and I'm a regular visitor of the clubs.

In order for me to give recommendations I need to know what you are looking for.

You cannot PM me because I'm a free member and cannot reply back.

On further note.

TLD for Seamans is incorrect.

When you take girls out in the morning till 18. 00 there's no multa. Good point. I will hit all the clubs, so no reason to ask for a blond, big ass, or big tits, etc. I can see / find that kind of stuff myself. I am looking for chicas who give good service. GFE / PSE w / DFK. Thanks!

Mel365
06-11-11, 19:25
I understand that Cecelia from Seamans club in SXM will be in Aruba end of the month.

More info to follow.

Mel

MikeNice2732
06-11-11, 20:59
This will be my first cruise. Usually I go to a place for at least a week and have no problem finding the good spots. I will be here only for an afternoon and ship leaves at 9pm so sure I will miss out on the best option. Hoping someone has a good recommendation for me. I am looking for a MP / brothel or even a strip club if that is an option. Looking for good quality girls or large selection. Expecting to pay more than usual being that I don't have the time to check out every option.

Zing23
06-12-11, 17:16
The girls at Seamans CLub are all aflutter because the boss is moving their operation to a new location across the
Street from Carolinas. Crystal Club has closed and the Dominicanas have been sent home. The girls say that the rooms at Crystal Club have all been updated, have airco and are nice. Doubt if they have king size beds like the current location. This is supposed to happen on Tuesday, but being the Caribbean, who knows. The girls who rented rooms in the seamans building but did not work at seamans have already moved to crystal I think.

June and September are the worst months for the girls. Winter tourism is over, but schools are not on vacation yet in the USA canada europe. September is hurricanes and every except brothels is closed. Some girls hadn't had a session in 3 or 4 days. One girl had only made expenses for a month and was behind on her room rent.

Most of the hot girls at seamans are gone. A couple of cute new girls though. Haven't tried them yet.

Tanya is still at Defiance. I was there one night and she looked smoking in a string bikini. Completely outshown tThe other girls. Friendly and fun too. She leaves July 8th.

Casa Blanca is hopping late at night on a weekend. Lots of good looking dominicans, loud music, dances, security in the parking lot, etc. $50 for 20 minutes before 4am, $60 after that. Did not partake at 130am due to too much
Sex and no money left, but danced reggaeton with a cute girl for 30 minutes. (ok wth her, she was bored).

El Capittan same night. Not very interesting.

Carolinas is packed with good looking girls although I have yet to find a super session there. One of my old
favorites is back, will try her next week and see what happens.

-zing

Lucky Strike
06-13-11, 17:45
The girls at Seamans CLub are all aflutter because the boss is moving their operation to a new location across the

Street from Carolinas. Hmmm. If one has a "favorita" in both Seamans and Carolinas (as is often the case) , how do you move from club to club unnoticed?

This move is *not* good news on several levels (including king-sized beds)

TomJackin
06-13-11, 22:00
Headed down with a couple of family members, so not as much time for real play as I would have wished, but did get a chance to check out a few places, mostly the strips clubs in Simpson Bay.

Golden Eyes: This was my least favorite of the three. There was a mix of Dominicans, Columbians, and Europeans. No one really dancing. The bartender told me that they had a special going on, $400 for one hour. I asked him which part was "special" about that special; no response.

Platinum: The nicest of the three, but with nicest comes a price. Mostly Europeans from what I saw. One of the Russian girls quoted me $750 for takeout service. I said,"Lady, either you have some kind of wonder pussy, or you mistook dollars for pesos." It appeared that humor was not allowed at Platinum.

Bada Bing: My favorite of the three places. Mostly Dominicans and Columbians; both favorites of mine. The server was outstanding there, very honest and fun to talk to, hell at one point, she even counted my money for me. The price was $150 for 20 minutes, dances were $30 per song, ladies' drinks were $10, and they drink they slowly and play while drinking. I really like one of the Dominican chicas, she was a real sweetie. Picture included.

Seamans Club: I was able to break away for a couple of hours and wanted to check out a few of the clubs around Suckergarden. But because traffic sucked so bad and I had other commitments, I just hightailed it to the Seamans Club. I've done plenty of RTFF, so I knew that going to any of these places at 6pm might suck; but I was determined. I ran smack into Big Booty Betty from Medellin. Her ass was a lot bigger than I'm used to, but she was a very sweet girl, and I was in a hurry, so I said,"You'll do, vamos." She was very eager to please in the room and wanted to go through the entire massage, but I told her my time was limited, let's play; she was fun.

Other action: Across the Sunset Bar is another little beach bar where things can get crazy (photos included, not me in the shots). Women were half naked and body shots were on the menu. Another happening place was the Tantra Club. If you have any game, there are plenty of locals and tourists in this joint.

I had a list of other places that I wanted to check out, but the trip was fast and furious, but I did try to manage some time for myself; such as the strip clubs and Seamans. Will I go back? Don't think so; but did enjoy myself anyway.

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Zing23
06-16-11, 10:48
The Seamans Club has moved to across the street from Carolinas. The sign in the doorway still says "Welcome to Crystal Club" but this is the new Seamans. However, rooms are being renovated and there isn't enough space for all the girls, so some of the Seamans girls are living at Carolinas. And some of the girls are moving back and forth from one bar to the other!

The bar area at Crystal is large and nice. There is a lounge area with lots of sofas. The old pool table is gone. Nicely done. When you go in back, you enter into a courtyard, with rooms all around the edges. In the center is an.

Empty area where guys are busy doing construction work (new sewer pipes?). I was in 2 rooms. They were both.

Nice, with airco units that worked fine (I had to turn one of the aircos down because it was freezing).

-zing

PogoStick
06-16-11, 19:05
What are the plans for the old (new) Seamans club?


The Seamans Club has moved to across the street from Carolinas. The sign in the doorway still says "Welcome to Crystal Club" but this is the new Seamans. However, rooms are being renovated and there isn't enough space for all the girls, so some of the Seamans girls are living at Carolinas. And some of the girls are moving back and forth from one bar to the other!

The bar area at Crystal is large and nice. There is a lounge area with lots of sofas. The old pool table is gone. Nicely done. When you go in back, you enter into a courtyard, with rooms all around the edges. In the center is an.

Empty area where guys are busy doing construction work (new sewer pipes?). I was in 2 rooms. They were both.

Nice, with airco units that worked fine (I had to turn one of the aircos down because it was freezing).

-zing

Lucky Strike
06-17-11, 00:47
What are the plans for the old (new) Seamans club?I think they should be referred to as Seamans 1. 0,2. 0 and 3. 0. Or something similar. To make it clear what Seaman's is being talked about.

Zing23
06-19-11, 01:52
Today I went to Carolinas about noon and there were only a coyple of girls. No Seamans girls, althugh I saw 2 that I knew leaving in a car. Across the street at Crystal / Seamans there were 3 Seamans girls in the bar, but the sign oOutside still said welcome to Crystal Club. Not even a temporary sign that this is Seamans Club.

Back at 1pm lots of people at Carolinas, but still only 3 girls at Crystal / Seamans.

Back at 230pm I thought I would see what had happened to the old Seamans (second one actually) and when I got there, all the signs were still up, the gate was open and there were cars in the parking lot. I parked, noticed an "open" sign and went up to the bar. There are completely new sofas and lights and paint and pictures and new staff and 6 customers and 2 of my Seaman's girls. Surprise!

One girl told me that there were no clients at Crystal / Seamans and she didn't like the ambiance at Carolinas in the night and her contract was with "seamans Club" not "crystal club". So she went back to "Seamans Club" to work. Even got her old room back. Only difference is that she has a new boss (the owner of Carolina also owns the Seamans 2 buildings and he is her new boss).

-zing

Mel365
06-20-11, 08:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0&feature=player_embedded

Rjsss212
06-22-11, 01:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0&feature=player_embedded[url]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eSflbxXeoo

Sailor Jim
06-22-11, 03:35
Only difference is that she has a new boss (the owner of Carolina also owns the Seamans 2 buildings and he is her new boss).

ZingYep, that bozo will own every place in town and make them all the same, same multa, same rules, same girls, kinda like a boring monopoly. It's already started and I can see SXM really sucking in a few years. Whatta shame.

Chin86
06-22-11, 11:58
Yep, that bozo will own every place in town and make them all the same, same multa, same rules, same girls, kinda like a boring monopoly. It's already started and I can see SXM really sucking in a few years. Whatta shame.Why is that a bad thing? Carolina's probably got the best looking girls out of all casas. Plus, they have the most reasonable multa at 50 bucks. I wanted to take out a girl from

El capitan last weekend, but they said the multa was 170 bucks. Plus the girl would have to leave a 200 bucks deposit before she leaves. I pretty much told them to fuck off.

Ath Trainer
06-22-11, 13:31
Just arrived on the island. Checked out 3 bars yesterday.

Stopped in Carolinas in the afternoon. I was the only guy in there and no chicas when I got there. As I drank my drink, expecting to leave very soon, a girl came in wearing street clothes from the restaurant. Petite, brown hair, big tits, tight waist, medium butt. Her name was Diana, from Colombia. Would have gone with her if I wasn't just hunting. Of course, when I returned later that night, didn't see her. Any 411 on her service?

Ended up, that night with a blond, big tits / ass, pretty face, named Alexandra. Been here 2 weeks. Service in the room was standard. CBJ, CG finish, massage. Pushed for TLN (hadn't been out of the club since she got there.

Stopped in "old Seamans" aka Blueberry Hotel that night early. Saw a few girls, but not anything special. Went to new Seamans aka Crystals. Only a couple girls at first, all fuglies. After a beer, and an extended handshake up my shorts by a chcia w / big tits / ass, I left. Some better looking girls were there, by then. Better bodies, but faces were weak.

Tonight could be Defiance, El Capt, and / or Petite.

Always appreciate suggestions about chicas who provide good service.

Ath Trainer
06-23-11, 13:40
The clubs are very slow right now. As soon as you walk in the door, go to the bar, and order your drink, a chica has latched on to you before the bartender has brought your change. Hard to get a good look at the lineup. If you send the 1st chica away, a new one arrives within minutes.

Started at Defiance around 8:30. Immediately met by a sm / med chica from SD. Name was Myrna (not sure). Big natural tits, nice ass, little belly fat. Friendly at the bar. When I first arrived inside, the bar did not feel hot. By the time I went to the room ($10) , I was now warm, and was going to a room w / o A / C. Wanted the $ up front. Not a good sign. Decent BBBJ. Brief CG to Mish (not allowing deep penetration. Finished in doggie, which would have been good if she would have allowed me to go deeper.

In the middle of the session, she said we were out of time (seemed a little quick). Asked for another $10 for the room, and wanted it right then (strike 2). When we were finished, she went to the bathroom, cleaned up, and said "You go" (strike 3). I love how some of these girls love you in the bar, like you in the room, and, as soon as you are done, barely know you.

On my way out, saw a girl who looked interesting. Medium height, lighter skin, solid body, brownish hair. Could this be Tanya?

Went for a beer afterwards to El Capitan. At 9:30, only 2 cars in the parking lot. Saw at least 3 go by in the alley to Old Seamans.

Went inside, ordered a beer. 1-2 other guys inside. At least 10 girls sitting with nothing to do. Immediately approached by Alexandra. Taller, black, long black curly hair, nice med. Nat. Tits, nice ass, pretty flat stomach (0 kids). Had a drink and left.

The road right in front of Carolinas / New Seamans was blocked off for construction last night. Coming from the round a about by the Police station, you could not go through to El Capitan. You could park next to Carolinas on the side, but no farther. Could not be good for business last night.

2 cruise ships were in yesterday. Lot's of American tourists. Don't think there are any more scheduled for the rest of the week. Hope it will keep the trafic down. They are patching a couple small spots on the roads, which doesn't help either.

Still looking for a girl worth repeating w / possible TLN.

Mel365
06-23-11, 18:21
Tanya is a spinner short thin with natural nice boobs.

Just ask her name.

Mel

Siepko Bach
06-25-11, 18:46
Had a one night stopover on St Maarten June 23. Went to Petit Chateau as it is closest to Philipsburg. The vending machine for cold drinks did not work so I asked for a cola at the bar. Not possible? So on I went to Carolinas. Quiet, like stated in other reports. While I was drinking my cola (no vending machine here) a girl introduced herself as Ana from Panama. Nice gitl-next-door type. Not dressed very sexy., seemed friendly enough so off we went to a room. There she told me she is half Chinese (recognisable if you know it) and had worked at the red light district in Amsterdam. Big money. Conversation being over, the sex was just great. She looked very good with her clothes off, no hurry whatsoever. She said she would stay for about two months only (arrived last Saturday). I just hope she is still there when I get back at the beginning of September.

Biker06
06-26-11, 06:14
I will be in SXM from Sunday Afternoon 7/10 thru Thursday Afternoon 7/14. Looking for a buddy to go club touring. I have wheels during my vacation. Was there in April. Had a fun first time but limited because I was on a cruise stop. Very glad I found this site, upcoming trip will be better. Any wingmen interested?

Pm me.

Biker06

Ath Trainer
06-27-11, 15:46
Carolinas:

Diana: petite, big fake tits (great surgeon) , small waist, nice butt. Girl next door type. Very friendly, great service. Get at least 1 hour. If you remember Michelle from El Capitan last summer, this one will "almost" make you forget about her. I said "almost", LOL.

Lis: Thin, blond, small tits, small ass. Good service. Probably gets better w / repeat sessions.

Seamans (Crystals) :

Tatiana Short, brown curly hair, small tits, big ass. Lots of toys, likes spanking, biting, etc. If you're into different stuff, or experimenting, she's your girl.

A/C in El Capitan sucks, considering it's a new building.

No A/C in Defiance is even worse.

Zing23
07-01-11, 01:53
Crystal across the street from Carolinas has the remnants of the Seamans girls. The bar is nice, the rooms are good and well air cconditioned. Construction is going on for more rooms. The same staff who ran Seamans is running Crystal.

However, Crystal does NOT have the Seamans name. Don't know how the owner lost it, but the new club is called Crystal.

And, there is no parking and no security. The girls are afraid to step out on the street because of thieves that hangout on the street. I asked the girls across the street at Carolinas if they were afraid and they said no, although they get a taxi to pull up to the door when they leave to go wire money. Could be that the thieves are more afraid of the owner of Carolinas, who actually has cameras and security.

The Seamans Club is still called Seamans Club and looks like it is going to stay that way. Same prices for drinks and girls as before, but MUCH more organized. The bartended keeps track of each girls sessions on a card which is held by a guard in the lobby of the building that has the rooms and he notes the time that the girl goes in and out. And this is in the afternoon!

4 new girls at seamans club. Very nice looking. Went with 1 of them today. Very nice time.

-zing

Ath Trainer
07-01-11, 12:09
A / C in El Capitan SUCKS. For a new building, it's one step above Defiance (they have no A / C.

A / C in Crystals is good. You need a hard hat to walk through the construction to get back to the chicas rooms. LOL.

Impressed with the security at Seamans. I parked in the back lot, off to the right be / see the main lot looked full. The guard came out and suggested I park in the main lot.

Beers and chica drinks seem to be pretty standard in all the bars. One chica ordered a Red Bull, which was only $4.

Once Crystals gets up and running at full force (more rooms, new rep, etc) parking will really be bad. It's not great now.

Left my lights on my car at El Capitan one night. Someone came and told me about it.

A cop stopped me on the road on the way to the bars one night around 8 PM. I was on the road that leads from the airport, near Simpson Bay, no where near the bars. Think it was similar to a DWI checkpoint that you will see in the states. He was standing on the side of the road, flagged me down, and asked if I lived there. When I said "no", he told me to keep going.

C

SomeDayNL
07-04-11, 18:09
Went to el Capitan yesterday. Took the same girl as I had a couple of weeks ago. Only this time she was much nicer. I paid 117 dollar for the bar and she asked me 200 dollar for tln. I took her to a restaurant called Capucino for dinner and went to the hotel. She gave me a BBBJ without asking. Sex she does only with condom she said but she did french kisses. Her name was Alejandra, black girl from Cali, she's 28 and she is tall, flat belly natural tit's and ass. I know I will go for her again when I visit st Maarten in August again.

Biker06
07-05-11, 19:35
Going to be in SXM 7/10-the 14th. Anybody looking to explore the club's?

Drop me a line.

Biker06

Lakeside1
07-06-11, 21:01
Just got home from a recent trip 1. 5 July. I can say that most of the clubs sucked. I was usually in the club around seven or eight in the evening. Club Carolina only had seven to eight girls working. Usually this club has been packed and the quality is high, but not this time. Went across the street to Crystals and there were only five working and not much to look at. Went down the road to El Capitan and Seaman's the same thing five or six girls and not that great. Best club going is Casa Blanca which has fifteen to twenty working and decent quality. Also the traffic really sucked this time around. There doing construction on several areas on the main strip. If you try to drive around 2. 6 your going to be stuck in traffic for a while. Went to Bada Bing for the first time. Very nice quality but never went for a private dance.

SlamCity7777
07-06-11, 21:46
Went to el Capitan yesterday. Took the same girl as I had a couple of weeks ago. Only this time she was much nicer. I paid 117 dollar for the bar and she asked me 200 dollar for tln. I took her to a restaurant called Capucino for dinner and went to the hotel. She gave me a BBBJ without asking. Sex she does only with condom she said but she did french kisses. Her name was Alejandra, black girl from Cali, she's 28 and she is tall, flat belly natural tit's and ass. I know I will go for her again when I visit st Maarten in August again.Will all due respect $117 for a bar fee and antoher $200 for TLN? Ouch. Call it $320. Ouch. Is this the normal going rate on the island? Why not go to DR and get the same type girl for $80-$150?

Ath Trainer
07-06-11, 22:33
Just got home from a recent trip 1. 5 July. I can say that most of the clubs sucked. I was usually in the club around seven or eight in the evening. Club Carolina only had seven to eight girls working. Usually this club has been packed and the quality is high, but not this time. Went across the street to Crystals and there were only five working and not much to look at. Went down the road to El Capitan and Seaman's the same thing five or six girls and not that great. Best club going is Casa Blanca which has fifteen to twenty working and decent quality. Also the traffic really sucked this time around. There doing construction on several areas on the main strip. If you try to drive around 2. 6 your going to be stuck in traffic for a while. Went to Bada Bing for the first time. Very nice quality but never went for a private dance.I think you went hunting way too early in the evening. I would always start from my hotel at 8. This last trip, that was even too early. How many other guys were in the bars at 7?

Zing23
07-07-11, 02:33
Carolinas:

Diana: petite, big fake tits (great surgeon) , small waist, nice butt. Girl next door type. Very friendly, great service. Get at least 1 hour. If you remember Michelle from El Capitan last summer, this one will "almost" make you forget about her. I said "almost", LOL.

Lis: Thin, blond, small tits, small ass. Good service. Probably gets better w / repeat sessions.I finally figured out who Diana is. A girl that I went with a couple of weeks ago. For me, an interesting woman, but nothing special in the bed. I think what happened is that she really shines in the bar with happiness and sexiness, so she doesn't think she needs me. But today she asked me very nicely for an appointment for a repeat session. So perhaps I have just out-waited her. We will see.

Liz I know and like.

-zing

Ath Trainer
07-07-11, 13:53
I finally figured out who Diana is. A girl that I went with a couple of weeks ago. For me, an interesting woman, but nothing special in the bed. I think what happened is that she really shines in the bar with happiness and sexiness, so she doesn't think she needs me. But today she asked me very nicely for an appointment for a repeat session. So perhaps I have just out-waited her. We will see.

Liz I know and like.

-zingMaybe this is a case of YMMV. I think you will also find her to get better with repeat performances.

Lakeside1
07-09-11, 03:25
I started at seven but stayed out all night. Not really that many others in the club. Most showed around eleven or so.

MikeNice2732
07-18-11, 04:31
Was actuslly really happy with the selection here. I was on a cruise so I had very limited time. I got to the island at about noon and had to leave by 8:30 so I didn't even get to see the best they have to offer. I did see Diana and she was really sexy. For $50 for 30 minutes she is totally worth it. I figured I would be quick as I came fgrom Bermuda with no options at all but went past the half hour mark and she did not charge extra. Gave her 65. Had a good body. I remember she did have a nice scar but super friendly GFE. You just have to take a taxi to Seamans and can walk tot he others. I had a 2 smokin hot girls there. A nice young petite dark skin great shape dominican. I also had a cute Columbian forget their names but you will know the Columbian when you see her. Had a great body but a big scar. Carolinas was about the same. My 2 cents is to definately go to both before you choose your girl. Be ready to have to reject some of the girls they are not all 9's and they are more agressive than in most places I have mongered. The ugly one always gets to you first. But for one day I got 3 beautiful women. There is another place too that is right on the main road before U-turn to go to either of the other 2. I went in but was not impressed with any of the girls. Also I need to mention that at 6pm to 8pm the girls get to sleep aparantly. The manager had to go next door to get some girls for us but it was so worth it. Definately would go back there.

Mel365
07-18-11, 13:49
Which Seamans club are you referring to.

Also where is the club you metioned "before the U turn"

Thanks Mel

Swed1001
07-23-11, 02:31
Hello, all, will be around for a day or two for the first time next week and have two questions.

How does the all night thing work and what would it normally cost? I see some mixed quotes here.

Can you for example pick someone up around lunch and "keep" until the next day around lunch?

Also, which are the best beaches to go to? Weather allowing of course. Will most likely rent a car to drive around a bit.

Thanks

Mel365
07-23-11, 04:49
The multas vary from club to club. Carolinas was 50 for day or night plus the Chica. The chicas are usually free from 4-8 PM.

Capitan, Petite Chateau, and Defiance multas are heavy about 200 +

Then you have to Pay the Chica 200-400 for the night depending.

If it were my first time to SXM. I would go to as many clubs and bang as many chicas as possible.

Unless you have a relationship with a Chica, which is not happening overnight.

You will probably pay her bar fine, she will then ask for dinner, possibly a disco, (another amateur move) , some time in the sack and then lights out. They then say they are tired. In the morning they will say they have to be at the club at 8:30-9:30 and you are not probably going to get laid in the morning.

For what you perceive as a romantic night will probably turn out to be a disappointment. I would rather just Bang 10 chicas in 2 days.

On the other hand you might run into a Superstar and have the night of your life.

Happy Mongering Mel.

Swed1001
07-23-11, 20:59
Thanks Mel, kinda new to this so the tips are appreciated.

Is there a decent hotel in the area for less than 100 euro per night?

Mel365
07-24-11, 04:08
my favorite is divi little bay. great security, clean rooms, nice beach, pool, [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) and 5 minutes from phillipsburg. also 5 minutes from most mongering.

i just booked 10 days in august for about 128 dollars a night plus tax. it might be at the top of your budget but it is worth it. you can monger return to your room and go out again and again. very chica friendly.

mel

PogoStick
07-24-11, 12:32
Thanks Mel, kinda new to this so the tips are appreciated.

Is there a decent hotel in the area for less than 100 euro per night?Another place to consider that is well within your budget is Captain Olivers. It is in Oyster Pond, just past the border on the French side. Decent rooms, very good breakfast included, chica friendly and very close to the mongering activities. Casa Blanca is a 2 minute drive. P-burg is 10 minutes. Orient Beach (nude) is also about 10 min. Westin resort and casino is across the bay.

Should be around $100-110US including breakfast and wifi.

Pogo

Swed1001
07-26-11, 04:07
A small report from my visit on st maarten.

I dropped by the capitan in the afternoon when I arrived to have a look and the pickings were pretty slim. Not many girls and quality was, um, lacking. One was quite insistant and seemed nice so I thought why not. I should have gone with not as *in the light of the room and undressed she dropped a few points. She immediately started complaining that I was too big and wanted to double the price. That and several times asking if I had coke made me just stop and leave and try again in the evening.

Also stopped by the seamans in the afternoon to look, maybe 5 girls and none above a 4. I should mention I do not like chubby girls and pretty much all had a very noticeable gut.

Headed to the hotel, Captain Oliver, which was OK and then just drove around and looked at the island.

In the evening at maybe 8 I headed out and stopped at casablanca first. Maybe 15 girls and the best was maybe a 6. After a while of looking I *did head off to a room with the 6 for 50 dollars. She was not very good, not taking any initiative and was just lying there waiting for me to finish. No GFE. I found that to be a pretty big turnoff, I am new at this and a bit nervous about it and have a difficult time ordering the girls around. And you do pay for a service. So anyway I gave up and left.

I then headed off to look at the Platinum room which was a better experience, some quite nice looking girls and they spoke decent English. Maybe 20 girls and 15 guys. Entry was 10 dollars but that gives you one drink. A drink for the girls was also 10 and a lapdance 30.

The girls were quite friendly and chatty. Did not insist on a lap dance or anything were maybe a bit *bored and just wanted to talk. Had one lap dance and an offer from another to come back to the hotel with me. Would cost 700 dollars for the night so I passed on that. Didn't bother to barter as the price was really far off. She said they did not have rooms there to take the girls.

On my way back I dropped by the Goldeneye to look as it was on the way, was quite empty and dead. 4-5 girls.

I also had a last look at seaman and capitan as I drove past them too but they were still about the same. It was now maybe 2am.

But keep in mind I am new at this and only really tried an FKK in Germany before but I doubt any of the girls I saw in st Maarten (except a few at platinum) would have gotten a job there, at least based on looks.

And I guess I should allow for it being a Sunday but I just had that one day.

Mel365
07-26-11, 05:04
There is a very cute spinner who I highly recommend. Tanya.

Give her a spin, she gets better with time, but good from the get go.

Mel

ClubTed
07-26-11, 18:05
Is there anything where the old Seaman's Club used to be on Sucker Garden Road?

Mel365
07-27-11, 03:49
Seamans was demolished and replaced with a brand new club-El Capitan.

Mel

ClubTed
07-27-11, 12:57
Thanks Mel,

I've been to SXM numerous times. Will be back for a week in September. So the line-up is as follows? Correct me where I am wrong.

From the airport to Oyster Pond

1) Le Petit Chateau. Have they done anything to improve the road?

2) Carolina's (next to the outdoor basketball court)

3) I know there's a place across the street that used to be called Crystals.

4) El-Capitan where the former Seaman's was.

5) Not exactly sure where the new Seaman's is, but assume in the area near Carolinas.

6) Defiance. Back open? (Always thought there were some calente Columbian chicas in this place.)

7) Sunset Retreat (aka The Border Bar)

8) Rounding things out Casablanca, with the ever so aggressive slate of chicas. (Is the restaurant in the back still open?)

I'll be in town Sept. 10th to the 17. If Mel or Zing are going to be around, let me know. You guys have your fingers on the pulse of the mongering scene in St. Maarten for sure!

Ath Trainer
07-27-11, 18:58
thanks mel,

i've been to sxm numerous times. will be back for a week in september. so the line-up is as follows? correct me where i am wrong.

from the airport to oyster pond

1) le petit chateau. have they done anything to improve the road?

2) carolina's (next to the outdoor basketball court)

3) i know there's a place across the street that used to be called crystals.

4) el-capitan where the former seaman's was.

5) not exactly sure where the new seaman's is, but assume in the area near carolinas.

6) defiance. back open? (always thought there were some calente columbian chicas in this place.)

7) sunset retreat (aka the border bar)

8) rounding things out casablanca, with the ever so aggressive slate of chicas. (is the restaurant in the back still open?)

i'll be in town sept. 10th to the 17. if mel or zing are going to be around, let me know. you guys have your fingers on the pulse of the mongering scene in st. maarten for sure!i'm not mel or zing, but they have taught me well.

carolinas still the same.

crystals is now the newest seamans (still might be crystals logos present)

el capitan is at the old seamans sight.

the old seamans sits behind el capt. use the access road to the right of the captain, past the apts, and you run right into it.

the road between petit and carolinas has been redone. no need for the extra insurance on your axles here any more. watch the speed bumps, though.

defiance is open and so is sunset and casablanca.

have a great trip and don't forget to give back to the forum with detailed reports. we like pic's too, lol.

LuckyEddie
07-28-11, 05:19
Another place to consider that is well within your budget is Captain Olivers. It is in Oyster Pond, just past the border on the French side. Decent rooms, very good breakfast included, chica friendly and very close to the mongering activities. Casa Blanca is a 2 minute drive. P-burg is 10 minutes. Orient Beach (nude) is also about 10 min. Westin resort and casino is across the bay.

Should be around $100-110US including breakfast and wifi.

PogoI second that. The BEST thing about this place is tha tyou will NEVER encounter traffic between the casas and your room. 2-10 min drive to the closest (Casablanca) and furthest (Petit) casa. Super girl friendly. Close to Orient Beach and Breakfast included. The Divi is OK but more expensive, IMHO. I would not stay anwhere on the Simpson Bay side unless you only wanted to venture out to the casas night. JMHO.

ClubTed
08-02-11, 22:57
I'm just about a month from returning to The Friendly Island! Any reports of distinction as of late? Any chicas that have left a lasting impression on anyone? I assure everyone that a detailed report of my week in SXM will be forthcoming. Anyone have any feedback on Sunset Beach Bar? I know it's popular with the locals. And really doesn't get cranking till late at night. The place always kept me on guard from the time you walk up the stairs, to trying to ascertain the layout of the chica's rooms. Also, how about Defiance these days? I always came across a couple of real stunners there. And once I had the room number, I returned the following early afternoon and went right to the room and met with the lovely lady. Le Petit in the afternoon. The courtyard was like strolling down the canals in Amsterdam. Girls in their rooms with doors open. Waving guys in. Or just chilling and letting you know they were there. Any input on the aforementioned three would be appreciated!

Vitrea
08-07-11, 16:48
I vaguely remember a discussion about this but could not find it in the searches. When does the cruise season start? I am planning a trip in late October or early November. It is always an odds game. The more girls there are, the better are the odds of finding someone hot and sweet. .

I hear the peak hurricane season is September and rains in October and November. Do the girls leave in droves and come back in the peak tourist season, which is supposedly mid Dec to April.

Hope some of the experts can help me out here. Planning on bringing a friend or two. Just doing my due diligence. Thanks

Ath Trainer
08-07-11, 18:16
I vaguely remember a discussion about this but could not find it in the searches. When does the cruise season start? I am planning a trip in late October or early November. It is always an odds game. The more girls there are, the better are the odds of finding someone hot and sweet. .

I hear the peak hurricane season is September and rains in October and November. Do the girls leave in droves and come back in the peak tourist season, which is supposedly mid Dec to April.

Hope some of the experts can help me out here. Planning on bringing a friend or two. Just doing my due diligence. ThanksCan't give you specifics, but you can do 2 types of searches to help with your answer.

Google St. Martin cruise ship schedule and you should be able to find a site that will give you a monthly calendar that will tell you which, and how many ships are in port each day.

If you go to the hotel web sites, they will tell you their rates based on the time of year. The rates go up at a certain time each year (busy season) and go down when it's "off season".

Hope that's some help. Sure some of the more regular visitors can give you more.

Zing23
08-07-11, 19:02
I vaguely remember a discussion about this but could not find it in the searches. When does the cruise season start? I am planning a trip in late October or early November. It is always an odds game. The more girls there are, the better are the odds of finding someone hot and sweet. I hear the peak hurricane season is September and rains in October and November. Do the girls leave in droves and come back in the peak tourist season, which is supposedly mid Dec to April.September is the dead month. No cruise ships, hotels closed, restaurants closed. Only places still open are the brothels, but the girls are desperate for business. Girls cannot leave at the end of August and return in November. That is not how their visas work. Generally, girls are not the aware of the busy seasons and dead seasons, so new girls arrive all the time. But the owners do tennd to request more girls in the winter.

Cruise ships start to get busy about mid Nov, peak at Christmans and again in Feb, fade out may thru July.

My personal favorite time is Nov and again in April. Lots of girls, not a lot of clients.

-zing

Vitrea
08-07-11, 19:57
Ath, thank you. Now I feel silly for asking.

Here is the cruise schedule for November and other months: http://*******.com/44ykdlm

Like Zing (the man) said, the port is busy from mid November. May be we will plan for early November then? The other option is Aruba, where the weather is almost guaranteed to be good but based on what I read on ISG (which is my sole source of information) Aruba might have fewer girls than SXM and 30 minutes each way from most hotels to San Nicholas area.

Tough decisions and what a rough life to live.

Folks on these forums that have been to both, what is your advice during November for three guys? Thanks

BTW, the **** part of the link starts with word tiny and ends with url with nothing in between. :-)

Ath Trainer
08-07-11, 23:00
Ath, thank you. Now I feel silly for asking.

Here is the cruise schedule for November and other months:

http://*******.com/44ykdlm

Like Zing (the man) said, the port is busy from mid November. May be we will plan for early November then? The other option is Aruba, where the weather is almost guaranteed to be good but based on what I read on ISG (which is my sole source of information) Aruba might have fewer girls than SXM and 30 minutes each way from most hotels to San Nicholas area.

Tough decisions and what a rough life to live.

Folks on these forums that have been to both, what is your advice during November for three guys? Thanks.

BTW, the * part of the link starts with word tiny and ends with url with nothing in between. .Saw one day with six ships coming in. Always go during the summer months. 2 ships a day is "busy".

Dima25
08-22-11, 02:49
Hey guys,

Anyone know of a quick way to get from St. Kitts to St. Maarten other than airplane? Was looking for a boat company but nothing seems to come up. Anyone know of a boat service between the 2 islands?

ClubTed
08-22-11, 08:18
Hey guys,

Anyone know of a quick way to get from St. Kitts to St. Maarten other than airplane? Was looking for a boat company but nothing seems to come up. Anyone know of a boat service between the 2 islands?Ferry service to St. Barth's, Saba, and Anguilla. Never heard of any boats making a run to St. Kitts on a regular basis.

ClubTed
08-23-11, 00:31
Ferry service to St. Barth's, Saba, and Anguilla. Never heard of any boats making a run to St. Kitts on a regular basis.I was referring to SXM as a departure point. I have no idea what might originate in St. Kitts. But what comes from St. Kitts, has to return.

Mel365
08-25-11, 19:20
I am here with my novia and her sister who flew in from Medellin for the week.

She is friends with the bartender of the old Seamans club so we went to visit her.

The club is the old Crystal club across the street from Carolinas it is still called Crystal Club, but it has no sign and only a black octapus painted on the front wall.

The club is new inside and had a about 10 chicas that I saw. 4 are sick with the flu making a total of 14. Possibly there are more and they were working. The old DJ from Carolinas is working there.

There was 1 or 2 9s. 3-4 7-8, the rest 7s. No fat or ugly.

Across the street at Carolinas there were about 30 cars. We did not enter.

Petite Chateau had about 12 cars outside
El capitans parking lot was EMPTY.

The old Seamans club down the driveway is still called Seamans with a new green neon sign.

The inside parking lot was full and the outside lot had about 10 cars.

I did not enter the club but a few hot looking chicas were taking men to the rooms.

Nothing else to report as my novia and her sister are sticking to me like glue, but it is worth it.

Mel

PogoStick
08-27-11, 12:20
Mel,

Does the new Seamans / Crystal club have the old Seamans sleazy feeling that the original one had? I kind of miss that. The one at Blueberry is almost too nice.

Wish I was down there now. Probably not until November.

I hate sex prison.

Pogo

Mel365
08-27-11, 22:47
Everything is new at "new seamans" crystal" I don't know if the chicas are as accomodating as in the original club.

Hope to see you in November.

Mel.

UOTE=Pogostick; 1190898]Mel,

Does the new Seamans / Crystal club have the old Seamans sleazy feeling that the original one had? I kind of miss that. The one at Blueberry is almost too nice.

Wish I was down there now. Probably not until November.

I hate sex prison.

Pogo[/QUOTE]

Ath Trainer
08-28-11, 00:11
With El Capitan being on the site of the "old" Seamans, and Seamans being down the alley from the site of the "old" Seamans, and the "new" Seaman's Crytal, it's starting to get confusing as to which bar someone is referring to.

My suggestion would be to just call the "new" Seaman's Crystal simply. The "new" Crystal.

PogoStick
08-28-11, 12:58
With El Capitan being on the site of the "old" Seamans, and Seamans being down the alley from the site of the "old" Seamans, and the "new" Seaman's Crytal, it's starting to get confusing as to which bar someone is referring to.

My suggestion would be to just call the "new" Seaman's Crystal simply. The "new" Crystal.I think it all goes with the territory. After all, most of us spread our Seamans all over the Caribbean.

Pogo

PogoStick
08-28-11, 13:02
Everything is new at "new seamans" crystal" I don't know if the chicas are as accomodating as in the original club.

Hope to see you in November.

Mel.I guess I'll have to go to Aruba for that old sleazy feeling.

I'll let you know when I am heading to SXM. Had to postpone BKK until Feb. I almost feel sorry for the first few chicas I see this season. I have been in sex prison too long and intend to make up for lost time.

Pogo

Mel365
09-01-11, 06:14
Seamans= Seamans.

Crystal= Crystal.

Carolinas=Carolinas.

El Capitan= El Capitan.

Petite Chateau= Petite Chateau.

Defiance=Defiance.

Bada Bing=Bada Bing.

Mel

Ath Trainer
09-01-11, 11:07
Seamans= Seamans.

Crystal= Crystal.

Carolinas=Carolinas.

El Capitan= El Capitan.

Petite Chateau= Petite Chateau.

Defiance=Defiance.

Bada Bing=Bada Bing.

MelWhere is "Mel" located? Is that the club on the boat on the marina? Heard they have the best girls there.

Biker06
09-02-11, 01:33
I went to SXM mid July for a get away vacation. What a great time. Had a club tour given by a local I had met on line (Nick) and it was well worth it. Nick knew the brothels and many of the girls. Bottom line. He introduced me to a Columbiana@Seamans And she ended up spending two nights@$400 / night. A real GFE, she was a "9" in my book (YMMV). She goes by Rena@Seamans. Cute, blonde, petite, nice body, all natural breasts, great smile and speaks english pretty good. I am planning on a return trip Oct or Nov and hope she in still in Snt Maarten.

Biker06