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VacayThreeWay
03-31-24, 13:23
Last night we followed everyone's advice and went to Carolina's first. Found it to be dingy, and all the women (literally all) just sat there on their phones. Dudes sitting across from them waiting to get approached like an awkward high school dance.
Left and went to Crystal's which we found to be a way better establishment. Cleaner, better lighting, just as many chicas but admittedly not quite the consistency as Carolina's. But we did find the hottest women at either place, a dark skinned Colombian named Cali (or Callie? Kari? If you know for sure please tell me as it was loud and I couldn't quite hear).
Flawless skin, perfect white teeth, natural bubble butt and the cup titties. Took us to our private room with a big bed. She was our first threesome and we were hers! Incredible time. I only regret busting in her mouth instead of on those perfect tits. Could have made out with her for hours, my wife and her got along famously. We all laughed and high fived at the end. Unforgettable experience and we owe it all to you fine folks for your guidance! I want to do it again already but family plans might stifle that. Memories live forever!
Just Got back today. There so many chicas at Carolinas that they seem to work in shifts. One group works early and the next group work from 8;30 Pm and on. I went with a nice chica from Cali, Room #1 quite petite. We spent some time together and then went for Chinese food. The second session seemed to be rushed. She said she had to leave by 8:30 as the other chicas were coming in.
The owner of Carolinas owns a few apartments and a "love motel nearby. She asked me to drop her off down the street.
I ran into another one at Empire who was also staying off site--interesting.
I saw a bunch of chicas, , however the nicest time I had was with Linda at El Capitan. Small boobs spinner body, from Cali. If you treat her right you can get it all.
Possibly room #9.
FunTimeSxm
04-17-24, 12:14
So just got back from the island and had some great fun at the clubs:
Empire. I had two girls from here, one was called Carolina, Colombian in her mid to late 30's, where's very skimpy outfits. Was a good fuck but did not repeat as I met Karol from Cali in the same club. She is very beautiful, all natural half black Latina, she had her hair dyed red before I left but before that it was in braids. However she was not very passionate and would not DFK.
Empire has about 15-20 girls at the moment.
Carolina. The first girl from here was Julia, she is from Medellin, very attractive as wears very skimpy outfits and knee high boots, which she likes to keep on when you fuck her. Passionate and managed to get BBBJ on repeat visits. The other girl was Jimena, who was all a decent fuck but I did not repeat, passionate.
Carolina only has about 12-15 girls in the evening, my friend has lots of fun with Andrea in there who he recommends, she also speaks good English.
Crystal. Wow, prob the best I have seen this club, it must have about 20 girls that work in the evening. I had fun with the Dominican Lorena who was excellent as always, recommend her a lot if you visit. My friends enjoyed the company of Eva, a Venezuelan girl who looks a little Eastern European IMO.
Crystal club I actually found to be the best club on this visit, El Capitan also had several sexy black chicas but I did not indulge.
I spent most of my time this trip though with a freelance girl from Cali called Tamara, she used to work in El Capitan and now she is known to visit all the clubs in the evening to find clients, she also frequents bars in Simpson Bay and Maho. She is very petit and passionate and speaks a little English. I recommend her very much if you bump into her. She is one of the best girls I have ever met on the island.
Red Diamond and Platinum girls are of course the most beautiful but only had private dances on this trip. Really good kebab / burger bar that opens late and opposite Red Diamond called Royal Gyro. The food here is so much better than Abu Ghazi if you need to eat late.
Still on the island and will share report in few days when I get back.
Wanted to check if anyone knew. Do chicas share intel on clients? Forum like this or whatsapp group perhaps?
It's strange and too much of a coincidence for chica I saw last year in Carolinas to msg me last two times I visited Island. We only messaged these 2 times she reached out and she would not know from social media or whatsap statuses when I visit.
I know they talk about clients among themselves but this would be whole another level.
Senior members can probably best chime in.
Cheers!
TigerMuskie
04-21-24, 19:30
Indeed there is a lot better value for money in Sucker garden but dabbling in Platinum or Rd is fun every now and then.
I found a video of the girl I had, many years ago now.
https://www.xvideos.com/video19720667/big_natural_tits_maid_wants_to_clean_your_cock
Most of the platinum girls to go the gym at Port de Plaisance, Red Diamond girls can be found freelancing in piano bar in Pelican on Monday and Soggy dollar Tuesday night.
They stand out so you can make your own much better price deals there, than in the club.
Yeah the tipping culture is obscene on the island, service charge on food is also ridiculous high but that is another story.
Just so you guys are aware as well, I know some Carolina girls know about this forum and they read it regularly, they also have WhatApp group where they all talk to each other as well as girls from other clubs and some free lancers. Hence I very rarely name or shame and write bad reports up about a chica, I just mention and describe the girls I know who are good via my own experience or trusted sources.This was from earlier this year but according to FunTimeSXM some chicas read this forum.
FunTimeSxm
04-22-24, 01:36
Still on the island and will share report in few days when I get back.
Wanted to check if anyone knew. Do chicas share intel on clients? Forum like this or whatsapp group perhaps?
It's strange and too much of a coincidence for chica I saw last year in Carolinas to msg me last two times I visited Island. We only messaged these 2 times she reached out and she would not know from social media or whatsap statuses when I visit.
I know they talk about clients among themselves but this would be whole another level.
Senior members can probably best chime in.
Cheers!Is the chica in question back home or working on St Maarten in another club or freelance? It could be that she has a friend working in one of the clubs that remembers you being with her and let her knew about it. Some of those girls have excellent memories for clients faces.
Is the chica in question back home or working on St Maarten in another club or freelance? It could be that she has a friend working in one of the clubs that remembers you being with her and let her knew about it. Some of those girls have excellent memories for clients faces.Last time I was on island in December, she reached out but she was in Canada. This time around, she said she is working daytime at Carolinas 10 am-3 pm only. I only frequent clubs at night and she could not have seen me.
FunTimeSxm
04-22-24, 09:25
Last time I was on island in December, she reached out but she was in Canada. This time around, she said she is working daytime at Carolinas 10 am-3 pm only. I only frequent clubs at night and she could not have seen me.Hmm, one of the girls working nights is definitely shit stirring telling her you are at Caro at nighttime. Any girls you recognise working nights that was also working in December?
Hmm, one of the girls working nights is definitely shit stirring telling her you are at Caro at nighttime. Any girls you recognise working nights that was also working in December?A few from December but none that worked a year ago when I saw her and would know me.
Quite strange hence I thought perhaps chicas have way to share intel and experience as we do here.
FunTimeSxm
04-23-24, 15:12
Some very sad news. The girl caught in the explosion from story below was from Carolinas according to my sources, she went by the name of Lorena. Never met her but fingers crossed she pulls through.
https://smn-news.com/index.php/st-maarten-st-martin-news/45042-breaking-news-male-victim-of-the-pointe-blanche-explosion-succumbs-to-his-injuries.html
Got back last night from the trip and it was fun as usual. I frequented clubs nighttime only.
Carolinas:
Finally got to see Vanessa. As others have described, she's great but nearly impossible to get to. She's speaks English well. She mainly works daytime, and nighttime she's either TLN or resting in her room. She's been on island for over a year. Other services beyond regular (and culo) are available but I did not partake.
In turn of events, barlady knew I have been interested in seeing Vanessa since my last visit so I guess I was lucky enough that night — barlady to tell me she's in her room, not working, but she can call her out only for me. She's absolutely worth all the effort I have put into trying to get her. Vanessa is leaving end of this month. If you can catch her before she leaves, do not even think about it. This is her 3rd time in SXM and likely she will not be back.
I've seen better lineup and number of girls in Carolinas before. It could just be bad timing on my part or something I am not aware but out of the 7-8 nights I have visited around 11 pm, most nights had only 2-3 girls available, including Fri and Sat nights. Caro used to be the best on island and only place I hang out at some of my trips. Now, girls work in shifts, some work daytime, other nighttime. They close at 2 am.
Perhaps fellow members can chime inhere more on Carolinas. It could be change of ownership, management, setup or something totally different.
Crystals:
What an improvement. This is the best of Crystal I have even seen. There were 10-15 girls most night I went and talent improved a lot.
Alejandra - 23 yo from Bogota. She has braces on. Dark straight hair, beautiful face and fantastic body. Had her for few nights in a row. Highly recommended.
My friend had Paola 27 yo and she's quite sexy, super cute face and nice butt. Probably best looking there and my friend was extremely happy with services.
Lorena from DR. I tried to go after her, spoke to her briefly but she did not seem interested to take on clients in evenings. At first, she seemed to have an attitude until you meet her. I see fellow member recommended here for service. She seems like a cool girl but did not seem interested in taking anyone in room, and I did not see her take anyone in room for the nights I hang out there. She was always hanging out by the bar, talking to people she knew well.
Crystal was the best club on this trip.
El Capitan:
Went for the drink there but nothing to my liking. There are mostly dark skin latinas.
Empire:
Quite improvement in this place. I've never seen so many girls working in single place. Not to exaggerate, there were like around 30 girls working at the same time Fri and Sat nights. On weekend, parking lot was full, with people parking outside of entrance. Not sure what time they close but I left one night after 4 am, there were still people there and more than 10 girls working.
Valerie. Cute thin Colombiana. 41 yo. Her room is upstairs. She seemed very nice when I spoke to her by the bar but inside of her room, different story. I felt rushed and she was all about to finish the deed, and get onto the next one. No enthusiasm or show she's willing to please. Write off as a loss.
Leidy. Colombiana with dark curly hair. I had her last time I was there and she's definitely dedicated to please. She provided me with BBBJ without any ask.
Met some freelance colombianas in Simpson bay late one night. They ask for $200/1 HR. Did not partake as they did not seem hot enough for kinda of $ they asked for.
UltimatePro
05-02-24, 18:53
Got back last night from the trip and it was fun as usual. I frequented clubs nighttime only.Great info, Alz55, thanks for this post! I'll be visiting the island for the first time in 2 weeks and your reports sound promising. Every bit of info helps!
-UP.
I will be around the 12th-22 of May. Drop me a pm.
Great info, Alz55, thanks for this post! I'll be visiting the island for the first time in 2 weeks and your reports sound promising. Every bit of info helps!
-UP.
I will be around the 12-22nd drop me a pm.
Great info, Alz55, thanks for this post! I'll be visiting the island for the first time in 2 weeks and your reports sound promising. Every bit of info helps!
-UP.
Drunk Again
05-18-24, 20:35
Will be coming into the Island for the 1st time in June. Is this cash only at the clubs, or can you use a credit card or Venmo, CashApp?
What is the current average rate for a girl at Carolina's or Empire?
I'm going with the family, so sneaking off at any chance I get to enjoy this opportunity. You only live once and I would like to fulfill some fantasies.
Thanks for any words of advice or wisdom given.
Will be coming into the Island for the 1st time in June. Is this cash only at the clubs, or can you use a credit card or Venmo, CashApp?It's cash only, and the common currency is the good ol' American dollar. Euros will also be accepted at the exchange rate 1:1.
Your other questions are answered if you read the last 10 pages of this thread.
Anyone ever take the ferry to blowing point?
Any action to be had over there? The forum is completely dead but I've got to imagine some intel exists.
Why bother with Anguilla when there are at least 5 home runs in SXM?
Anyone ever take the ferry to blowing point?
Any action to be had over there? The forum is completely dead but I've got to imagine some intel exists.
I plan to hit all 5 home runs in SXM but doing a day trip to Anguilla so wanted to make sure I didn't miss any additional flavor.
Why bother with Anguilla when there are at least 5 home runs in SXM?
So I'm going on my first trip to St. Maarten in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know the current lineup at Carolinas, Crystals or El Capitan? Anyone worth seeing? Is $70 the usual rate at all of these spots? Does anyone favor any one spot over the other? Has anyone had any luck at the casinos? As a first timer any and all tips are appreciated and If anyone knows of any good spots to eat or things to do those also would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance.
- Starkrob.
Is $70 the usual rate at all of these spots?It's 60 dollar + 10 (room fee) at the most popular places, so 70 dollar, yes. Some girls at certain clubs at certain times may accept 50 (or even 40).
Does anyone favor any one spot over the other?Yes, and it changes through the seasons or years and from one person to another (personal preferance). I always suggest gents to be adventurous and try out 4- 5 different bars and at different times (day and night) to get the full and updated picture. If time is a limit, then at least visit Carolina's.
As a first timer any and all tips are appreciated1. Read the last 10 pages /12 months of this thread.
2. Write a report about your findings. Too few gents report back, and a report with an update is always appreciated / welcomed.
Have fun!
Does anyone know the current lineup at Carolinas, Crystals or El Capitan? Anyone worth seeing?
- Starkrob.Do you have any preference on girls? Dark or light skin? Body wise?
You are better off including so fellas can recommend girls you might like.
Enjoy!
It's 60 dollar + 10 (room fee) at the most popular places, so 70 dollar, yes. Some girls at certain clubs at certain times may accept 50 (or even 40).
Yes, and it changes through the seasons or years and from one person to another (personal preferance). I always suggest gents to be adventurous and try out 4- 5 different bars and at different times (day and night) to get the full and updated picture. If time is a limit, then at least visit Carolina's.
1. Read the last 10 pages /12 months of this thread.
2. Write a report about your findings. Too few gents report back, and a report with an update is always appreciated / welcomed.
Have fun!Thanks man I really appreciate the info. I will definitely report back!
Do you have any preference on girls? Dark or light skin? Body wise?
You are better off including so fellas can recommend girls you might like.
Enjoy!I'm not too picky haha. As long as they're curvy that would be great. MILF / Mature would be amazing as well!
- Starkrob.
Nightiimare
06-07-24, 05:13
First time trying or doing anything to this effect. Pretty excited about it we will see how it goes. I started reading a few days ago I will update you after I return very cool you guys have a community like this. Never knew this time stuff was a thing or legal etc. Thank all of you for all the information and where / how to! I'll be there next week.
I'm not too picky haha. As long as they're curvy that would be great. MILF / Mature would be amazing as well!
- Starkrob.You described most girls working at the clubs so you will not have hard time finding chicas you like =).
Read reports for the past year here — it has tons of info which will make your experience better.
So I visited Crystals about a month ago for the first time on a Monday around 2 pm. Not much of a selection. Upon arrival there were only two short thick Colombians on the floor. I waited a little bit and Eva from Venezuela came out. She is about 5'7" relatively thin build, natural be cups, and a nice ass. She looks to be early 30's, long black hair, pretty face. CBJ was good, I usually only BBBJ but my fault for not asking up front. One of the best CBJ I've had, she has great technique. Doggy was great, she is tight and good kegal contractions made for a great sensation, that combined with being the first time in awhile mongering, means I didn't have the time to try other positions before the pop. I will definitely repeat if I catch her again.
Then about two weeks ago I made a daytime visit around 3 pm. Stopped in Crystals, 3-4 girls working but the power was off, no AC and nothing that peaked my interest, so I ventured across the street to Carolinas. Only 3 girls working and about 15 guys hanging out at the bar. Was walking to the door and a short Colombian girl with wavy shoulder length hair stopped me. She had a tight body with a big firm ass. Didn't get her name but she was cute in her mid-20's. Small pert and firm be cups, a nice thigh gap and the forementioned well shaped but large firm ass. CBJ was more suction than I like but it was working. She climbed aboard for CG and she is tight. I'm average sized so it wasn't me. Switched to missionary and finished in DG. Didn't catch her name but I will update if I see her again, since I would repeat just for how tight she is and I really liked her titties.
Going again later this week, so I will try and post another review with fresh info.
SportsGuyRed
06-12-24, 03:08
Staying at Simpson Bay resort. What is the cost for taxi to Carolina's and other clubs? I only visit during the day but find it stressful to have a rental car. Any other options as I plan to go to the club 5-6 days in a row, so will end up spending $60 / day in taxis to clubs from simpson bay.
It appears to be 20+ minute ride rather than 10 minute ride from cruise port, so would $30 be taxi cost rather than $10-15 from cruise port?
I rented a car last time but I hate the stress of driving on the streets and worrying about the car while inside the clubs.
Just got back from a morning visit. Arrived about 11:45 am. The power was out again so no lights and no AC. Two heavy set dark skinned latinas were there when I arrived. While waiting around Veronica came in wearing a strapless form fitting full length dress, looking amazing. She is quite short, I'm guessing under 5' and so petite, definitely weighing less than 100 pounds. She looks to be in her early 20's and is from Colombia. Perfect firm be cups that are responsive to licking and sucking. Asked about BBBJ but only CBJ. No LFK or DATY. Session was okay, standing mission to CG and finished in Mish. Would have rather TLN so that I could enjoy her with some AC and maybe shower together. Hoping she gets better and open to LFK and BBBJ with repeating. Cutest little pussy, with nicely trimmed little Bush.
SportsGuy,
It seems you are better off taking the bus to Phillipsburg and a taxi from there. Bus fare is a couple of dollars. Taxi to Suckergarden from Phillipsburg should be around 10, I guess.
To everyone else: A car rental is highly recommended on the island (unless you are a drinker).
If mongering at the Suckergarden bars is your main goal, then Simpson Bay is a poor choice to stay without a car. Pick somewhere closer (like Divi Little Bay). Simpson Bay has the best nightlife on the island though.
Taxi fares on the island are fixed. Here is an extract (updated for 2024):
Princess Juliana International Airport to Simpson Bay $10 (Before the bridge, After the Bridge = $15).
Princess Juliana International Airport to Cole Bay $15.
Princess Juliana International Airport to Philipsburg $20 and from Bobby's Marina $25.
Princess Juliana International Airport to Dawn Beach $40.
Princess Juliana International Airport to Marigot $20.
Princess Juliana International Airport to Concordia or Sandy Ground $25.
Princess Juliana International Airport to Grand Case $45.
Princess Juliana International Airport to Orient Bay or Anse Marcel $50.
Princess Juliana International Airport to Maho $10.
Simpson Bay to Marigot $15.
Simpson Bay to Grand Case $40.
Simpson Bay to Philipsburg $20 and from Bobby's Marina $25.
Marigot to Grand Case $25.
Marigot to Anse Marcel $35.
Philipsburg to Grand Case $35.
Philipsburg to Anse Marcel $40.
Philipsburg to Marigot $20.
Philipsburg to Orient Bay $30.
Orient Bay to Grand Case $15.
Orient Bay to Anse Marcel $20.
Orient Bay to Simpson Bay $45.
The minimum fares are based on two passengers; each additional passenger is $5 to $15 extra, depending on the destination. From 3 persons there's a per person price based on the distance to the estination, the price is between $4 and $18 per person.
One piece of luggage per person is allowed for free; each other piece is $2 to $4 extra based on the size.
Important note: Fares are 25% higher between 10 pm and midnight, and 50% higher between midnight and 6 am.
Staying at Simpson Bay resort. What is the cost for taxi to Carolina's and other clubs? I only visit during the day but find it stressful to have a rental car. Any other options as I plan to go to the club 5-6 days in a row, so will end up spending $60 / day in taxis to clubs from simpson bay.
It appears to be 20+ minute ride rather than 10 minute ride from cruise port, so would $30 be taxi cost rather than $10-15 from cruise port?
I rented a car last time but I hate the stress of driving on the streets and worrying about the car while inside the clubs.If you could manage worry / stress of driving, rental is much better option. It is not only cheaper than taxi, but you need to account convenience and flexibility — going to / leaving from and checking out other clubs.
You have parking right in front of entrance or the side of Carolinas. If you do not leave any valuables visible in car and park close to the entrance, you should be fine.
SportsGuyRed
06-12-24, 23:01
Anyone ever actually live in SXM fulltime time or at least 6+ months a year?
Any specific things to avoid / watch out for renting apartment long term in SXM?
I am seriously considering renting an apartment year round in SXM. I have been to SXM 3 times before COVID and love it.
Looks like I can get some great ocean views 1 bed apartments for $2000 - $3000 / month.
Thanks for all the info. Especially MEL, Shark, FUNSXM, and others.
Shark16 thanks for all the great Taxi info below!
Lucky Strike
06-13-24, 05:18
You have parking right in front of entrance or the side of Carolinas. If you do not leave any valuables visible in car and park close to the entrance, you should be fine.2nd night during my last visit parked my car was in the 1st parking space car around the corner, in plain view from the entrance, right under the electric pole. When I left the club around 9:30 (so not very late) 4 "kids" (ages from approx 12-13 to perhaps 16) sitting on the hood of my rental. As I approached, the younger two jump off and demand "dollars". The "other" 2 are laughing. I only have 20's, so no effing way. One of the older 2, both of whom are at least a foot taller (but skinnier) than I, start messing with the car's mirror, which could cost me a lot more than a few dollars. The "security guard" who I used to always tip is nowhere to be found. The taxi drivers sitting on the steps just laugh.
What would you do? Any suggestions? Getting confrontational with the locals, especially the local "kids" literally is the least attractive option.
I went back inside, got change from $20, and handed a few buck to the "kids". The car mirror luckily was still in place. I did drive to the clubs a few more times at night, always around 8:30-9 pm, when back in the day it used to be pretty safe, but the front parking was already occupied and every time I got "bad vibes" from the folks hanging around the place. Didn't see the "security guard" at all. Ended up going only in the afternoons, which is far from what I wanted.
Also had an "incident" where a scooter rider started following me from Philipsburg to Simpson Bay, then blocked the road and claimed my car side-swiped him and he almost fell. I didn't feel touching anything. A new "shakedown" tactics by the locals, anyone knows? I managed to get around him and drove to my hotel where, fortunately, the parking lot had a security guard.
So maybe hiring a taxi is not such a bad idea? I've been going to SXM literally since the last century, and I can't believe I just wrote the previous sentence. But, IMO, since the hurricane and especially since COVID things have deteriorated substantially. Or maybe it's just me.
FunTimeSxm
06-13-24, 13:09
Anyone ever actually live in SXM fulltime time or at least 6+ months a year?
Any specific things to avoid / watch out for renting apartment long term in SXM?
I am seriously considering renting an apartment year round in SXM. I have been to SXM 3 times before COVID and love it.
Looks like I can get some great ocean views 1 bed apartments for $2000 - $3000 / month.
Thanks for all the info. Especially MEL, Shark, FUNSXM, and others.
Shark16 thanks for all the great Taxi info below!Hi, can you PM me, my friend is in real estate and I am sure he could find you something.
The "security guard" who I used to always tip is nowhere to be found. The taxi drivers sitting on the steps just laugh.
What would you do? Any suggestions? Getting confrontational with the locals, especially the local "kids" literally is the least attractive option.
I went back inside, got change from $20, Lucky,
Sorry to hear about your trouble. Anyway, thanks for bringing this to our attention. Safety issues should definitively be a part of what we should discuss here.
How to protect ourselves? My two cents on the issue:
1.
You say security was nowhere to be seen, which IME is normal in these kind of establishments. The bar should be for girls, gents and bartenders. Security guys are behind closed doors upstairs at Carolina's, I believe. I am therefore a bit surprised you did not ask the bartender about this when you changed the 20 dollar bill. That would be my first suggestion and would defintively solved the situation IMO.
2.
I always make sure I have change in my pocket for exactly these circumstances, and suggest the same to others. Sometimes you meet a hobo that need a little bit of "help". It has happened to me twice in the last 20 years, and only after dark (200+ bar visits, half at night). It was awkard, but I never felt in jeopardy.
3.
I also think that we do ourselves a disfavour to accuse the locals for these situations. In the cases I am aware of the kids were uneducated illegal immigrants without English skills. 99,99% of locals are on our side.
4.
I always have full insurance on my car rental, and even an extra insurance for deductable. If the kid broke the car's mirror, I would simply get a new car the next day without any extra cost. Problem solved.
5.
If anything happens at the parking lot at night, the bar should be made aware. Also, report it here. Security outside the bar is essential. Carolina's would lose business otherwise, and would eventually have to take action. One way or the other. Or be out of business. Money talks.
Personally I will still use car rental as my preferred form of transportation. Day and night. Just take normal precautions.
FunTimeSxm
06-13-24, 22:21
The problem with rental cars on the island is that they are easily identifiable with the R plates. They are deliberately targeted by all the criminals. Also, always carry a bottle of beer with you when you walk back to your car, it may make the little hoods think twice or in worst case you have something to defend yourself with.
The club you really have to be careful of is Empire and the car park at weekends, if you come out late it's full of tugs from Dutch quarter looking to cause trouble.
If you want to play it safer, quite a few of girls from Red diamond are on the game and you also get a lot of freelance in Simpson Bay. Go to Red Piano in Pelican Key on a Monday night and they are all in there during some stage of the night, also Soggy Dollar on Tuesday night, seriously some Tuesday nights in Soggy you have like 10-15 girls from the clubs in there anyway.
Far safer and with Carolina only got about 8 girls apparently, you will prob get better variety in Simpson Bay.
Maho strip on Friday and Saturday also had fair few freelance girls. Wednesday night in Lotus usually has a few knocking about too.
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