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02-24-04, 17:40
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Gutter Meat
02-26-04, 00:15
I'm glad to see St Maarten now has its own forum board.

Capt Nemo
02-27-04, 03:59
Hi to any St Maarten visitors,

I have been marooned here for a few weeks on and off, and I have found the quality of the girls a the seaman's club has improved with a recent bunch of Columbian girls, mostly willing to please and certainly pretty, can say I have had a few pleasurable moments there, amazingly this place is open from about (9am to 2am) how anyone can face it at 9am amazes me, but there you go. a lot of the guys there are filipinos off the cruise ships with little or no maney so when they see a hafl decent looking guy who may have more that $10 in his pocket, you get a better choice.

$40 seems to get you a good time the place is Ok and reasonably clean.

If anyone has got updates on anyother spot in St Maarten or other islands please post, some of us are stuck in the caribbean all winter, and on the other islands the pussy is thin on the ground.

Capt Nemo.

Art Fartzalot
03-04-04, 08:48
I had similar experience last year at Seamans Club and also about 2 years before that, each time with 20 something Colombian Gal, $40 made them happy.

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El Putero
03-28-04, 05:02
On my first trip to Sint Maarten I decided to find some of the brothels mentioned on this board. I was somewhat successful in locating most of the establishments, but became a little confused when trying to find certain places. This report will deal with the location of the brothels in relation to each other, and will hopefully help clarify any confusion other readers may have found. Or perhaps it will only add more confusion. All of the distances mention here are in kilometers (km), since that is what the odometer in my rental car measured. All of the brothels are located on the Dutch side in the southeastern part of the Island, and all are within about 6 or 7 km of each other. I am told that on the French side there are woman available in certain “discos”, but you will need to pay for a hotel room.

Le Petit Château:
This place is located closest to the town of Phillipsburg. It is not on a main road, but on a manmade causeway that extends across the Salt Pond north of town. Directions: Find the traffic light (possibly the only one in Phillipsburg) on Pondfill Road where the Police Station and Government Administration Building are on the Phillipsburg side of the road and the University of St. Martin is on the causeway. Pondfill Road is the road on the north side of town adjacent to and running parallel to the Salt Pond. Your tourist map may list this road as Walter Nisbeth Road. From this light turn onto the causeway, toward the university. The word “UNIVERSITY” is spelled out in three-foot high letters on the ground, and can be seen on the right as you enter the causeway. The beginning of this road is paved, but will turn to dirt and gravel about half way to Le Petit. From the traffic light, Le Petit is 0.4 km. You will pass the Little League Stadium on your right, and you will find Le Petit on your left a little further ahead. I visited this place three times, but only found something I liked on my last trip. The rooms provided here are as clean as most of the other place that I visited. As mentioned elsewhere, mostly locals use this place.

Seaman’s:
This is a very popular place and easy to locate. Directions: From the traffic light mentioned above continue east to the edge of the Salt Pond (about 0.4 km) where you can turn left (north). Although there is no street sign here, the road is commonly called “Suckergarden” Road. Travel north about 1.4 km to Seaman’s. On your way there you will pass a Shell gas station on your left, and pass by numerous houses and buildings. Continue pass the sign welcoming you to the town of Suckergarden and also drive past the signs pointing to St. Martin Park. Just beyond Arch Road, you will find Seaman’s on your left. As mentioned in someone else’s report, Seaman’s is set back from the road and enclosed in a ten foot high wire fence, and looks a little like a Used Car lot with its string of lights. Many tourist visit Seaman’s, and I found the girls here better looking than those in any of the other bars that I visited. The rooms are adequate, and there is some interesting artwork in the hallway leading to the rooms that you may want to view if you’re into that type of thing. It is unlikely, but you may hear some local refer to “The Japanese Place”. If you do, they are referring to Seaman’s. The story I heard was that sometime in the past the place was frequented by many Japanese, so the locals began calling it by that name. Today, crewmembers off the cruise ships come into Seaman’s while they’re in port. The place is decorated with nautical items that give it some character.

Defiance/Kappers:
The next bar is locater 1.5 km north of Seaman’s on the same road. That is to say Suckergarden Road. On the way there you will be traveling mostly uphill, and will be passing by many houses and buildings. Be careful, the roads are fairly narrow and very winding. It would be a bad idea to drive these roads while under the influence. Defiance is located at the top of a hill and you will come upon it very rapidly because it is located around a right bend in the road. Just before you get to the top of the hill, you will see a self-service carwash on the left. At first I thought it was a gas station. You are then suddenly on the top of the hill and Defiance is on your right. On the outside there is not a sign saying “Defiance”; however, there is a small sign on the outside of the complex that reads “Kappers”. Kappers is actually a small café within the complex, but not attached to the bar. The complex is enclosed within a stonewall, and you must drive through the arched entrance. Park inside the courtyard, and you will see a two-story building where the club is located, and a building in the back left side that was once a hotel. The second floor above the club was used as dance hall called the “Crystal Club”, and the sign is still on the entranceway. You need to walk up a set of stairs on the right and enter through a set of double doors. Many non-locals visit this place and I found the selection of girls to be good. I believe that the Defiance was once a hotel where mongers could pay to stay on the premises. I wonder if this is still possible? The rooms here are quite clean.

Sunset Retreat:
Leaving Defiance and turning left back onto the major road (Suckergarden) it will be another 1.5 km to the next brothel/bar. As soon as you leave Defiance heading north, you start to go down hill. You are traveling toward Oyster Pond and Dawn Beach, and should follow the signs leading in that direction. Stay on the main road. Do not turn off. After a short distance you will enter an area void of any buildings and you will pass through some pasturelands. When you have traveled the 1.5 km from Defiance you will see a yellow colored building sitting on a ridge adjacent to and on the right side of the road. There is a stonewall surrounding the ridge that the building sits on. You will also see a billboard with a woman and the words “Sunset Retreat”. You will also see what appears to be a narrow driveway leading up the right side of the building. Do not drive up this road. The parking lot for Sunset Retreat is located just past the billboard on the left side of the road, and when you are in the parking lot you will see a stairway leading up to the bar. I visited this place only once, and I found an attractive companion, but she had an attitude that I could have done without. The place also seems to be popular with locals. There is one more piece of important information regarding the name of this place. I understand that the owner’s name is Angel Priest, and I heard more than one local refer this place as “Angel Priest”.

Casa Blanca/Border Bar
This seems to be the most talked about place on this island. It is located only 0.5 km further north on the road to Oyster Pond. This is still the same road you started out on in Phillipsburg. In fact, if you reach Oyster Pond you’ve gone too far. I think it was said that you couldn’t miss seeing this place. Well, I missed it. As reported, it’s a large white building that sits back from the road and also well above the road, with the words “Casa Blanca” written on it’s side in large red letters. I missed it because I was paying close attention to where I was going and not looking around. If you approached it from the French side (heading south) it would be difficult not to see. Casa Blanca and Border Bar have been reported as separate bars, but both a taxi driver and the security guard in the parking lot told me that Casa Blanco is also known as the Border Bar because it’s almost on the border with the French side. Standing in their parking lot you can see the border at the bottom of the hill. If someone knows otherwise, place inform us. I visited this place three or four times from late afternoon to midnight over a three-day period, but never found someone I desired. This surprised me due to all the good things I had read about the place. They do have a restaurant within, and it seems very clean. The only other thing I can report about Casa Blanca is that both locals and non-locals patronize this place.

714
This is a small brothel/bar located very close to Seaman’s. A taxi driver showed this place to me. Directions from Seaman’s: When leaving Seaman’s turn right toward Phillipsburg and go to Arch road (0.1 km) and make a right turn. Go down Arch Road for about 0.3 km and make a left hand turn. There is a market and bar on the left corner called “New Era”. Just as you make the turn you should see the 714 about fifty feet ahead of you on the right side. 714 is a single story orange colored building with a green roof. The number 714 is on the side of the building in large numbers. Locals mostly patronize this place, but a few of the patrons were non-locals. I found a couple of cuties here and decided to allow one of them to take me into one of the back rooms. Unfortunately, the room was a disgusting dump. I’ve only seen such filth in a few Mexican border brothels. Because of the condition of the rooms, I do not recommend this place.

Unknown Place
While investigating 714, I noticed what appeared to be an eatery in the building across the street. The right portion of the building is two stories, and the left portion is single story. The right side has glass windows on both floors, and the left has a stone finish. The restaurant is on the right side of the building that can be entered through a double glass door. I did not notice any signs in the window; however, it is a restaurant because they served me. On the left side of the building is a salon. In front of the building, in the center, you'll see another door and a water fountain with a child holding a water jar. To the left of the fountain you’ll see another door. Use this door to enter both the salon and the disco. In other words, the disco is inside the building between the restaurant and the salon. The only other clients in the restaurant while I was there were four Latin women that looked by the way they dressed like prostitutes. I then heard loud “disco” music coming from a room adjacent to the room I was in, and decided to see what was in there. I discovered that the room was a disco, and was told that things in there really did not start until after 11:00 PM. Later the evening I re-entered the disco, but found only about two girls and about four guys inside. It is your typical disco with the loud music, dance floor, and the rotating colored lights. There is also a small bar. The bouncer invited me to sit down, but I told him that I was only there to take a look around. Hearing that, he offered to take me on a tour of the place. After briefly showing me the small disco, he invited me to view the back rooms and explained that the girls here were available. In the back, there is another small bar with couches. A little further back in the building are the girl’s rooms. The one I saw was in somewhat better shape than those I had seen in other places. Because there were not many girls there when I visited, and because I got the impression by the nicely decorated disco, back bar, and rooms that the prices there would be “too” high, I decided not to stay. I then tipped the bouncer and went on my way. However, I do hope that some adventurous *****monger will investigate this place further and give us a report. By the way, the bouncer’s name was Tony. He told me that the name of the place is ”Crystal Club” and that it had only been opened for about a month. What the relationship between the place named “Club Crystal” located above the Defiance bar and this disco is unknown to me. Maybe it has just been relocated.
714 and Unknown are located at the northern end of the casueway that I mentioned above. If you drive south pass 714 and Unknown on to the dirt road and through the landfill, you will reach Le Petit in about three or four minutes. The first time you try this should be during daylight hours only.

Vagringo
05-03-04, 01:21
what are the prices seems like 40 bucks the normal price. will do a week on th e dutch side in aug.

FreeWilly
05-07-04, 19:32
I am likely heading down to St Maarten (for the first time) with my Dad for a week, then I will be on my own for a second week. He wants to stay at the new "Royal Islander La Terrasse" and it looks nice so I guess that is fine with me. It looks more like a timeshare (all suites) than a hotel, so that could be advantageous.

My questions are:
1. Do the hotels normally let you bring chicas back to your room?
2. Does anyone know this hotel and where is it in relation to the "Hotspots"? I know I need to look at a map, but I will get to that later in the week.
3. Do any "available" girls hang out in the clubs or discos around Maho Village area?

I will likely sample some of the brothels listed here (thanks LOADS to all the contributors!) but I usually like to end up with one girl for the majority of my time. I find I get better service in the end (GFE).

Any and all info is appreciated!

Will

El Putero
05-11-04, 01:20
Freewilly,

I can only answer the second question. Maho Bay is located on the Southwest part of the island and the "hotspots" are located on the Southeast side of the island. If you don't hit thick traffic, you should easily reach any of the brothels/bars within a 20 to 30 minute drive. It's best to rent a motor vehicle.

Dexter SJ
05-18-04, 00:58
I'm happy to finally contribute to the conversation here.

To answer the question of Vagringo, the going rate is typically $40 at most bars, although some of the women will try to start you at $50, $60, or even $70. In the slow months, April-October, you can sometimes bargain down to $30. I normally do that and then tip $10 if she's fun.

I've also had two women for $70. This is actually not the greatest deal since you only get a CBJ from one women and only sex from the other (with condom of course). However, I get a kick out of fondling (and being fondled) by one woman while having sex with another woman.

I advise you to take your time and enjoy the sales pitches of the different women as they press and rub to encourage you to think with your lower brain.

You ABSOLUTELY need a car if you're going to monger.

You will sometimes see some pros at regular hotspots and casinos. The pros will normally dress a little flashier than the casual vacationers or residents. I found one conspicuously-unattached woman at a late-night place called the Merengue Bar. She gave serious eye-contact, and after I offered her a ride, she asked if I wanted company.

For the most part, I would not expect much from the strip clubs. CATS is a strip club that also offers extra services, but it's primarily a ripoff. As with the other places, it is kind of fun to have the women try to work you for money. They also like to rub you a bit as they make their pitch.

Lastly (for now), I'd avoid the "gentlemen's" strip clubs like the Platinum room, unless you enjoy spending $20 for table dances. The women look great, but I can get $20 table dances from great looking women in the states.

Dexter SJ
05-18-04, 01:28
Hey guys,

Please forgive me for failing to tell where I got my $70 two-fer.

I did this at Seaman's Club. I was also offered this at the Casa Blanca. You can probably do this at other spots as well.

IslandNick
05-22-04, 13:38
Well back on the island after a couple of months absents, actually I was in Belize & Mexico, but that’s another story & another board.

For anyone who is thinking of coming over to the island, give me an IM; I can properly give you up-to-date info.

If you just want to read the posts then I recommend El Puteros' post on 3/27/04, one of the best and comprehensive breakdowns of the action on the island. Quodos to you man, maybe next time you’re on the island we should hook up for a nite out on the town?

Dexter SJ
06-24-04, 02:53
Just returned from my favorite little island.

I discovered a new place. Actually, I found a couple of places, but would only recommend one. I THINK that the name of the place is "The Castle". If you are returning to Phillipsburg from the main drag of brothels, it woud be off the first street on the right after passing the Seaman's Club. Again, heading back to Phillipsburg, you turn right, and then left at the next street. "The Castle" is on your left, and a more seedy "club" is on your right.

Funny thing about the The Castle is that when I walked in, I initially thought that I made a mistake and ended up in a gay bar. I saw nothing but guys seated at tables, and a few of them were dancing. They looked to be locals. After a few dances......

Just kidding.

After a few seconds I backed out of the door, and as I was walking out, I saw a guy walking back in with a very attractive woman. I decided to give it a few minutes and a few more really attractive women trickled in from the back area. They were 7-9s in my opinion. One looked like a white Angela Devi (if you don't know her try Google). The girls were white and probably Columbian. There were still only about 6 workers there, and more than 20 guys. Most of the girls were only paying attention to what appeared to be regulars. I tried to make eye contact and didn't get much attention in return. I wasn't all that interest in doing business, but wanted to at least find out about the place to share info with my brethren here.

Finally a nice looking brown complexioned woman came out from the back (what I was looking for that night). She was from the DR (another preference). After a minute of broken spanish conversation she informed me that the rate was cinquenta or 50. I told her that I only had 30. She thought for a second, and said ok.

When we walked into the back, we appeared to walk into the lobby of a defunct Blue Skye Hotel. The woman at the "front desk" gave her a stare when the girl told her 30. She said something about more money for the room. I dug in my pockets for another 6 bucks and told them that was all that I had, grateful that they didn't see me quickly shift a $50 to another pocket.

The sex was okay. I've had worse, but have definitely had better from providers. She gave me one of the shortest CBJs I've ever had. I could have held my breath for the duration. We went through a few different positions and after a bit of urging from her I shot my load. It was somewhat rushed.

As I was getting dressed, I saw a sign in the door telling patrons that if they kept a girl longer than 25 minutes, they might be asked to pay more.

Quick note on the seedy place across the street. They were all black girls, and while I actually prefer that, they were all pretty heavy or otherwise not attractive. I didn't get a name for the place.

Last note. I did the tour of the places that me and others have discussed in previous posts. I did get an interesting offer of "fuckee-suckee very good" for only $20 from a woman at Le Petite Chateau. She had a nice body, and a decent mug, but didn't fit what I was looking to do that night. However, that's proof that in the slow season, you don't have to pay a lot to have some fun.

Hope this helps guys. Happy mongering.

Indiana
07-27-04, 21:30
great info guys.

can anyone recommend a hotel with high speed internet access in the room and not too far from the action?

IslandNick
07-31-04, 18:53
allthough there is high speed internet on the island, both wireless and dsl. i do not thik there are any hotels that have it available in the rooms. and definatly not anywhere near the action that i think you are looking for.

islandnick

Asian Shark
08-09-04, 20:03
St. Maarten Report

Just got back from one week trip to St. Maarten trip. Went to seamen's club. I was pleasantly surprised of the talents they had. When you walk into the place, there were 4 -5 girls waiting for you outside and greet you. one girl caught my eye and had a chat with her for about 5 minutes and asked her to go to the room. She asked for $40. I agreed and went back to a hall way full of rooms on each side. Went into the small room with queen size bed. it was ok overall. Hey, for $40. full service, it was tyhe best.

The girl I've picked was from ??? ( forget ) she was about mid 20's and had a beautiful face with 34b chest and nice butt. She started with CBJ and than cowgirl and finished with doggy.

It was the best fuck I've had for $40.
It was the best little *****house in st. Maarten. I did drove by the Le petit Chateau but deiced not to go in , because there were some not so nice people hanging around in front.

Anyway, I wished I had gone to Seamen's club more than once because there were some good looking chicas there.

Asian Shark

ps: I'm sorry to have missed you IslandNick

JimmyDR
08-11-04, 21:11
Any suggestions on Hotels?
Thanks

IslandNick
08-14-04, 04:31
Hay Asian,

Sorry we did not connect, you have my #, ifyour over again give me a call.

Islandnick

Vagringo
08-14-04, 19:20
jimmy try in phillips burg that is where all the action
is. I would say a chica freindly place is about 50 bucksstay away from the french side they use the euro. this place that has not been exploited yet. I was also there week and besides getting lost if you stay on sucker garden road seamans,defiance,and? beach are all in 1/2 mile radius since you are like me and like morenos there are alot of girls from dr and columbia.they start about $45 but you can get 20 min for around $30 that is the cheapest. the island was fun stay away from the nude beach its gross that is on the french side. I will not preach but the roads are realy curvy try not to be a lush if you can rent a car. taxis are too much. there is not much takeout except maybe the local stripclubs that is about $100 near the airport.

JimmyDR
08-17-04, 19:28
jimmy try in phillips burg that is where all the action
is. I would say a chica freindly place is about 50 bucksstay away from the french side they use the euro. this place that has not been exploited yet. I was also there week and besides getting lost if you stay on sucker garden road seamans,defiance,and? beach are all in 1/2 mile radius since you are like me and like morenos there are alot of girls from dr and columbia.they start about $45 but you can get 20 min for around $30 that is the cheapest. the island was fun stay away from the nude beach its gross that is on the french side. I will not preach but the roads are realy curvy try not to be a lush if you can rent a car. taxis are too much. there is not much takeout except maybe the local stripclubs that is about $100 near the airport.



Basically a four day three night trip would do the trick?

IslandNick
08-20-04, 20:49
Hey Jimmy,

See you are thinking of coming down to this part of the world. As Vagringo says Philipsburg is the area to find the action. His comments about the road and prices are pretty accurate.

The accommodation is were it all falls down, trying to find decent room that are chica friendly can be a problem in Philipsburg. There are places for that money, but I personally would not stay in them. Possibly a time-share or holiday apartment might be a better bet.

Roads can be a but tricky, but a rented car is a necessity.

You can get a take-out, if you pay a bar fine usually about $60-$70, plus what ever the girl asks for.

If you’re coming over drop me PM, maybe we could hook up for a party one nite.

Routard
09-17-04, 20:09
This is my favourite island in the Caribbean. High standard appartments hotels at marvelous beaches with cristal clear water (my suggestion, head for Orient Beach, known as the Saint Tropez of the Carribean), very fine dining (try the Astrolabe at Orient Beach), Casinos everywhere on the dutch side, very nice beach bars with life music (watching the airplanes landing right above the beach at the Sunset Bar is a must), and extended night life.

When I'm on business (yes, they pay me to go to that place!), I usually start the evening with my business relations at the Platinium, a sophisticated strip club at Maho Beach. Real beautifull girls with lap dance 20$. This allows me to check if I can bring them further to the brothels. Well, most of the time it is.

As it is very well described on a precedent report, they are all on the same track. It starts on the North part of Pillisburg, on the road along the salt Pond. At a red light, you'll notice a building with "University" spelled on in. Just take that road. After a few 100m, it becomes a sand road. On your right you will see a stadium, on your left you have "Le Petit Chateau". Go further untill the road starts again to become asfalted. Again on your left you will have "Club 714". At the T crossing go right untill you cross again the main road between Pillipsburg and Oyster Pond. Take this road left, toward Oyster Pond. After 100m, you willl find on your left side "Seamens Club". Continuing on the road towards Oyster Pond, you will find just after having past a top "Kapper Bar" or "Defiance" on your right hand. Further on the road downhill you will have on your right "Sunset Bar". Continue straight on and just before Oyster Pond on a hill at the right side "Casablanca" or "Border Bar".

You are free to enter and to exit of all these bars without paying anything (drinks starts from 2$). So feel free to check them all and make your own opinion. My opinion is allready settled.

Club 714, Le Petit Chateau, Kapper Bar are cattering more for locals. Don't feel unconfortable being the only white guy, as we are in Carribean. Most of the time as it will be noticed that you are alone, somebody will offer you a drink. But for the action you are looking for, it is not worth. A few Dominican girls, overaged and/or overweighted (rate 3-5).

Casablanca is really big with nice facilities (including a restaurant) and may be 30 girls. Most are from Dominican Republic. But sorry, I don't like it. I rate the girls 3-6, with most 4. I found their attitude also too aggressive, a lot of hassling. I never found anything, so I can not even describe you what happens after in the rooms.

In fact, my favourite club is by far Seaman's Club. About 25 girls, mostly from Colombia age 20-30 most 25, and rated 5-8, most 7.
But I'll make a special report about it.

To complete the scene, there is also a swingers Club on the french side (Selena), you can find the info on the web, but I have no experience.

Routard
09-17-04, 22:27
Here my report about my 24H experience in Seamens Club.

My flight was delayed for a day, so I decided to check for a hotel room and head for my favourite place. In fact, I started with the second one. 11 am, Seamans Club was just opening.

Somebody couldn't understand why this place was open so early. Well, in fact it catters for seamens. As most are now from cruise ships, these ships only stay during daytime. And fore those who are not alone during their stay, it is more easy to escape an hour or two during day time than during night time.

Somebody reported also that he dared not to enter due to the bad guys in front of the door. Well, in fact these bad guys are only taxi drivers waiting for customers. This club is very safe.

I like the atmosphere of this bar. Inside, you have some sea related items, reminding you the name of the place. During day time, there are only 5 to 10 chicas, and as much customers. During night time, there are around 25 to 30 chicas and 30 to 40 customers. The chicas are aged 20-25 and rated 5-8. There is a wide diversity under the customers: japanese and filipino seamens, black locals, white tourists, latinos, you name it. There is always some nice music, mostly latin music, as the lady behind the bar is from Dominican Republic.
The atmosphere is very relaxed, no hassling from the girls, no bad behaviour from the customers. I even noticed several local groups (white french from the french side) accompanied with their wife or girl friend pass along having a drink. It is true, their is really a nice atmosphere, something like the bar in the music clip from Justin Cimberlake.

I stayed all day long, and all night, till 3pm closing time, forgetting I had no hotel room booked. During the evening, there is a snack opening at the parking where you can eat some snacks. Appart from the sessions, I chatted, with the chicas, training my spanish skills, and trying to get to know all of them. Well, I had some really good time. If you are sincere with them, they open really their heart. One chica gave me some dance lessons, so I learned the difference between Cuban son, Domincan Merengue and Bachata, and Colombian Salsa. Another chica helped me by sewing my pant's in her room.

With my broken spanish, I still learned a lot about the chicas. Most are from Colombia (especially Cali), and some from Dominican Republic. They are on 3 month contract (for visa reasons). They work hard in order to bring back money to their family. Most have everyday telefone contact with their family in Columbia, as it is their only motivation. When I asked one of the cicas why I didn't see here during daytime, she told me she went shopping for bringging bach gifts to her family as it was her last days. I noticed also most have a child, although none of them dare to speak about boy friend or husband.

During their stay, the chicas live two in one AC room, every room having one large bed. The shower and WC is shared by two room. Lunch and dinner is offered in the kitchen area (not allowed for customers). The chicas are not allowed to get out, or they have to pay a fine at the bar, the same you have to pay to get her out (45$). At 9pm, they must be there, as they have to register themselves in a book at the bar. If you are at that moment at the bar, you are sure to see all of them.

The going rate is 40$ for 20 min BJ and FS protected. You may get down the price to 30$. Escort is also possible. Day escorting starting from 11 am till 9pm (as they must be back again at 9pm) or eevneing escorting from 9pm to 3 pm. Starting price is 300$, but you may get it down to 100$. You have to pay the bar fine (45$) seperately from the chica. I once managed to get a chica out for 50$ durying day time, as she just arrived and was currious to look around the island. But most of the time, she just will calculate the money she would have earned by staying at the club. The 8 rating chicas willl not go for 100$.

I noticed even a very nice looking chica (age 20 rate 9) I could never catch for a session. She was only doing escort. I saw here leaving at 11am escorting a middle east looking customer, and again at 9pm for a short period before leaving again alll the night for escort. I saw the customer paying everytime something that looks like 300$.

During all the time I tried to break my personal record (5 sessions in FKK), and managed to reach 6 times. Two of these sessions where disappointing. It was not due to the chicas attitude, but I was disappointed by their bodys, even if they had nice faces. My advise is to check their body first through the clothes durying the catting at the bar. Two sessions where the classical sessions you may get. The girls had nice firm bodys. They had a kind attitude. No time hassling, and ready to do what you want, but without passion. BJ and FS covered.

One session was really nice, about what you may get in german FKK. The chica was 22 rate 8, nice face, long blond hair, firm body, soft light skin. There was a good chemistry, she did also BBBJ and passionate kissing.

But my last session was a real GFE. It was nearly closing time. As I had allready chatted with nearly all the chicas, I noticed one shy chica, petite and very young looking. I didnt see here having a lot of customers, as she didn't try to get any attention from any customer. I started to chatt with here. She seemed very surprised that I was interested in her. I may be better looking than most of the seamens present that night. Whe chatted a while, my hands around here wheist. I checked , and yes, she had a real firm body with nice curves. I noticed she could get her eyes out of mine. After some time, whe went to her room, as it was close to closing time.

I looked at hear when she undressed, and again I noticed a strange thing for a pro: she seemed unconfortable undressing herself. In fact, I think she was afraid I would have been disappointedas I discovered her very small breast. In fact, I was really not disappointed, as I discovered hear teenage looking body. She looked may me 16, but she told me she was 22.

I tried to relax her with long prelimenary. I started kissing, and she answered very passionate. I checked her pussy, and felt it became weater and weater. She noticed that my dick was somewhat harmed, as she had also noticed my multiple sessions before. So she started with a real smooth BBBJ. She finished by putting the condom with her mouth. I started to penetrate her, and discovered how narrow she was. So I entered also very smoothly, kissing her at the same rythm. I then suddenly noticed that her body was moving as she was really enjoying it.

I then did what I never do with paid sex, I tried to concentrate myself on her pleasure, not on mine. I waited, untill she came, before unloading. She came really, I noticed it inside her pussy. I know what you are thinking guys, but this time is was true, no fakking. I have had a lot previous experiences, including very nice GFE in the world best places (dutch and australian brothels, german FKK, Dominican Republic...) It just happened me once, wich statistically is not impossible. Sex workers are also human beings with feelings.

When we finished, she told me she really came, and made me feel her wet pussy, just for proof. She explained that I really found the right way to make love. When a pro tells this to you, comparing you to the hundreds of customers she had before, it makes your ego getting very high. But in fact, it's just a matter of chemistry. I know I have been also very disappointing for a lot of others.

She asked me when I came back. I'm sure I could have asked her to stay the night in her bed, as her room mate left the day before.
But I choosed to continue my night somewhere else. I finished til 5 pm at Casablanca, wich again disappointed me a lot. I took an early breakfast and went to the beach. I then went to check for my airplane. As it was allready 11am, I decided to head again for Seamans Club. Not again for a session, but just because I knew everybody there.

The chicas where surprised to find me back again. One chica noticed I have had no sleep and no shower. So she brought me to her room for a shower. After the shower she told me I could rest a bit in her bed, wich I did, till my airplane departure.

Guys, once again: treat the chicas well, and respect them. Not only because in return you will get a much better service. But because they deserve it...

jmclean
10-02-04, 22:35
My experience in St. Maarten Dutch side was similar to others who have posted recently. At Seaman's twice, I had girls who didn't have the bodies I thought they had before they undressed. I guess there is really no good way to know. One cost me $50 including tip, the other $40 including tip.

I apparently had a better time at Le Petit than most. I didn't see anything I liked the first night, but when I went back later I found a tall light-skinned Columbian who cost me only $35 including tip, plus the $3 for the room.

Finally, the disaster of the trip was at Sunset, where I found this 19-year-old with a beautiful little body, but with a pussy so tight there was nothing I could do, including plenty of lube, to penetrate her. And I was hard as a rock. I gave up trying and she jerked me off, but she didn't even do that very well. She got $20 and no tip. The place smelled like a barnyard. Definance/Kappers, where I turned down a girl who wanted $50, wasn't much better.

After awhile, I'm beginning to wonder whether 20 minutes of suck and fuck with women you can hardly communicate with is really worth the low price.

Routard
10-14-04, 20:08
Jm clean

I agree, it helps a lot being able to communicate in Spanish. Attitude and service depend a lot on the feeling you create with the chicas. Some are probably not real pros, but only part time pros when on contract abroad. Some seem even to be very new in the business (just my opinion). My spanish is very poor also, read a spanish phrase book before, and try to remember the most usefull sentences. Check for example on the Argentina section for some usefull sentences. It's enough to break the ice. The chicas will help you for the rest.

For info on my previous detailed review about the Seamen's club, the bar fine to get the chica out has increased from 45$ up to 60$.

Yes, I was there once again. Some of the chicas from the previous time where still there. It was nice getting in that bar and being allready familiar with some chicas. For them, as they were getting at the end of their contract, their main concern was to book a flight back to Colombia. The main airline for this route is DCA (Dutch Caribbean Airline) with a stop over in Curaçao. DCA is not a reliable airline. I helped the chicas and went together with them at the travel agency in Phillipsburg (in order for me also to rest between two sessions).

About the sessions, I was very lucky, because I found back that very nice looking 9 rated chica (see my previous report) that I couldn't get for a session, as she was everytime busy on daily escort. It was also her last days. We had first a nice chatt while drinking on the bar. Following my previous advise, I checked her body through the clothes before. But it didn't take me long to convince me she really had that 9 rated body I imagined. I couldn't wait longer (I was allready waiting for 2 month hoping to see her again), so we went to the room.

Once in the room, she undressed, and I discovered really her 22 aged perfectly firm and body. She untighed her long black hair. When we where both standing naked face to face, I touched her very smooth skin while looking into her very nice eyes. She smiled, seeing me so horny. I started to kiss her, she answered (not all the chicas kiss at Seamens Club). Luckily, she also let me all the time to discover her body before putting on the condom.

May be thanks to those long prelimenaries, she din't have to put some lube. We started to have sex, and again, I discovered that luckily she was very narrow. As it was my second session, I managed to stay a long time and have multiple positions.

All in all, a very nice session with the most beautifull chica I've met at St Martin. But not a real GFE, even if service was very good. If I had the same chemistry as with the one I had previously a GFE (see my previous report), it would have been one of my best experience, similar to some I've had at german FKK.

225mmk
11-14-04, 21:12
I spent the last week of October in St. Maarten. After reading many of the reports Seaman's Club looked like my best bet because of the time of day I could play. I went twice both times around noon. Had a quick pickup both times. I found it a great experience. The girl both times were very hot and nice. Both times there was no negotiating on price. Great time and then settled up afterwards for $40.

I noticed when I was leaving the second time a decent number of white girls (4 or 5) from reports I didn't expect that and would have maybe taken a spin. Does anyone know the orgins of the white girls (Nick?)

I recommend to all!

Routard
12-02-04, 22:21
The white girls are also from Colombia. I agree, some are really light skinned, blond colored hair, you might think they are white. But they are are all latina's.

JohnLeo0349
12-09-04, 13:36
I may be heading to St Maartin in early Jan. When did the new girls arrive and are they going to be there in Jan?
JL

Joe71
12-15-04, 23:46
I'm in SXM now on business. I've had a chance to stop by both Seamans Club and Defiance/Kappers. Both were great. I met Angelique at Seamans and Joanna at D/K, their rates were $50 which was a bargain compared to US prices. Both places were pretty clean, Seamans was a little better. Both had a good selection of chicas, D/K was better. Drinks were cheap and the session was awesome in both cases.

I drove by Le Petite, forget it, not worth the effort.

Joe

IslandNick
12-23-04, 21:49
Most of the houses have a regular turn over. Girls get a 3 month visa, and arrive 2's & 3's. So there are allways new girls arriving, which is great if you live on the island.

Islandnick

Hardbarg
03-22-05, 01:41
Suckergarden - it was a dark and stormy night.

What a great name for a brothel district. Someone had a real sense of humor. My first visit to these places was at night during a storm. I was having trouble just staying on the road, let alone finding anything. Fortunately, I had the descriptions of the area posted by El Putero. They were dead on accurate and precise. Even when I couldn’t see 50 ft in any direction, his instructions were so specific that I was able to find the places I was looking for, and some of them would have been difficult in daylight. Great work EP.

Le Petit. This place was in the middle of a shallow lake. I suppose it might be considered a road and parking lot by some. I came real close to getting stuck in the mud more than once. Worse, it wasn’t worth the trip. There weren’t many girls, and the best I saw was a 6, maybe. Only went once, no sale.

Seamans, Defiance-Kappers, Sunset Bar, Casablanca-Border Bar. These 4 places are all on the same road. I stopped in each a few times. I had expected holes-in-the-wall and was surprised at how large these places are. Casablanca is one of the largest brothels I’ve ever seen. While they are all certainly different, from a practical standpoint, I found 3 of them to be very similar. The one exception was the Sunset Bar. It was a bit smaller, with a somewhat limited selection. The one time I went in, I felt a little uncomfortable. Nothing obvious, but seemed more like a locals hangout. Nothing like that problem in the other places. Of course, ymmv. The girls at all the places seemed to be from Columbia or the Dom. Rep. Some English, but the more Spanish you know, the better. The pricing and services offered were pretty much the same. Was mostly quoted $45 for standard session, generally negotiable to $35. The ratio of attractive/unattractive seemed pretty similar. The number of chicas went from about 20 to 50 or 60. Each had shows of one kind or another. Each had a mix of locals and obvious tourists.

As above, the girls all seem to be recruited from off island. My impression was that this resulted in pretty hard core pros. The service was enjoyable, usually fun, but businesslike. Secretaries trying to supplement their income, first timers, semi-pros not likely to get recruited. If you are expecting more of a gfe it seems unlikely here.

Maho Bay - the other end of the island.

Platinum - Snooty strip joint, maybe 15-25 girls. $10 cover. Talked to girls from Romania, Czech Rep., Hungary, Russia. Far as I could tell all the girls in this place were from eastern Europe, all very attractive or better. Most spoke some English. Strip show was run like an assembly line, very stately and distant. Amazing contrast to the latina dancers at the brothels. Only thing quoted to me was $30 - 1 song private dance. Since I knew what was available 20 minutes away I passed, but there was no shortage of takers while I was there. I got the impression that a more complete rental could be available outside the club with some of the girls, but I doubt it would be a bargain.

Casino Royale. As far as I could see, this is the only casino on the island (there are many) that has a craps table. Therefore, the only one that deserves to be called a casino.

225mmk
03-23-05, 01:18
Nice Post Hardbarg. I agree with all of your assessments. The Princess Casino has Craps too, but doesn't seem to get the crowd and I prefer Casion Royale as well. Last year was my year to really check out the brothel situation and look forward to my annual trip next October.

Ngp477
03-27-05, 15:43
first trip also to St. Maarten Dutch side.

visited Seamans club and was disappointed. trashy hell hole bar like in Mexico.

continued up the hill on the same road and visited the girls at the large compound, I think it was Defiance. Met a nice cutie from Colombia and a few other skanks. Did the Colombian. Was the highlight of the trip.

Drove past Sunset but it looked too disgusting to go in.

Overall the prices are quite high on the island for hotel, food, entertainment, due to all the time share and casinos.

Not a good place for mongering.

If you speak spanish and want cute Colombian girls, I recomment Cartagena. Only a 2 1/2 hour flight from Miami and alot cheaper.

Absolut
03-27-05, 21:47
first trip also to St. Maarten Dutch side.

visited Seamans club and was disappointed. trashy hell hole bar like in Mexico.

continued up the hill on the same road and visited the girls at the large compound, I think it was Defiance. Met a nice cutie from Colombia and a few other skanks. Did the Colombian. Was the highlight of the trip.

Drove past Sunset but it looked too disgusting to go in.

Overall the prices are quite high on the island for hotel, food, entertainment, due to all the time share and casinos.

Not a good place for mongering.

If you speak spanish and want cute Colombian girls, I recomment Cartagena. Only a 2 1/2 hour flight from Miami and alot cheaper.Npaul, Seamans Club was initially setup to cater to Chinese fishermen who had a 2 weeks break on the Island after spending 3 to 4 months at sea.

Now with the huge amount of Cruise ships visiting the Island this place has been turned into the watering hole of the crewmembers of these ships.

It is obvious that these guys do not have alot of time to spend on shore and therefore do not require 5 star accomodations when busting a nut.

Why didn't you take one of the girls back to your hotel? It is a known fact that you will find the best girls in the Seamans Club.

As for the other places, they cater more to the locals and stay-over tourists who obviously require better accomodations. ( An exeption would be Sunset Bar)

Routard
03-30-05, 21:25
Was once again in Sint Maarten. I wrote previously very positive reports about Seamen's Club. Well, this time I was disappointed about the line up. the average level had decreased to 4-7. Yes, it may be hit and miss, as the girls change very 3 month.

I stayed for a while, and discovered finally an 8 level (I will not go beyond that level anymore). She was a petite 23 years old Columbiana, long hair and an incredible body. I started to chat with her, there was a good chemistry, and after a while went to the room. When she udressed, I discovered a 9+ body. Incredible, 9+ because she admitted that her C breast was not natural. Else it would have been a 10! She had a very soft light coloured and nice smelling skin, very firm well curved body.

I started to kiss her (this is usually not standard, but if chemistry is OK, they never refused to me). After some hassless preleminaries, she wanted to put some lub. I stopped her, saying I would act very gentle and started to wet her with my tongue. Yes, this was quite risky in such place, but I noticed before she had a nice smell. And her pussy tasted OK. This made her getting very horny. I started intercourse very softly, and indeed she was very narrow. I continued slowly untill I felt that she was getting wet enough. We were both getting more and more horny, and changed several times our position. I finiched on doggy-style.

Yes, this was again a very good session, even if my overall impression about Seaman's Club is not as good as before.

During this last visit, I noticed a white lady coming out of the office, the kind of one you won't expect in such place. One of the chicas explained me that she is the manager in charge (the owner itself is a guy from St Maarten, but you will never see him there). She takes great care about the chicas. This explains may be why the atmosphere is much more relaxed here than in the other clubs.

Routard
03-30-05, 21:34
Payed again a visit to Casablanca, as it is the only one that remains open late at night. Again, my overal impression was rather bad, like my previous reports. Yet for the first time, I noticed an 8 rated girl in Casablanca. She was the only Colombiana, as all others where Dominicanas. She was petite, very light skinned. I tried to get some chemistry with her, but she was quite agressive, like all the others from Casablanca.

As I never tried before any girl in Casablanca, decided to make a try anyway. I discovered how things go in Casablanca when going to the room. You have to pay 45$ or 45€ (it's better to pay in dollar of course) through a small window, before you are allowed to enter the bedroom area with the girl. Rooms are airconditionned, have a bathroom and are rather clean. The sex was nothing to write home about it. Will not come back, and skip to my favorite Seamens Club.

Routard
03-30-05, 23:43
Latinas are sexy, sensual, passionate and sensitive. That's why the experience you will get with a chica depends largely of the chemistry you will be able to build up with her. Speaking Spanish is mandatory, else you will probably be disappointed. If you don't speak Spanish, find hereafter a usefull "phrasebook".

You enter the club, and usually the less beautifull girls will come approach before you got the time to look around with a clear "Fucky fucky". Even if she is an ugly barrakuda, never be rude with a girl offering you actually sex! Decline politely but firmly: "No, gracias". She will usually insist, so answer you want to rest before: "Qiero descansarme". She will insist asking why: "Porque?". Answer because you are tired "Porque estoy cansado". If she insists by you don't want girls? "No quiro Chicas?" answer this time you want a girl, but a girl in particular: "Quiero una chica, pero une chica en particular". This is usually very effective.

Take a beer at the bar by asking: "Quiro una cerbeza" or if you prefer Coca Cola "Quiero una Coca Cola". Ask the price "Cuanto es?". Please at least try to learn from a phrasebook to count till 100. You will need this everytime.

Have a look around, and as usual the most beautiful girls will not approach you. Do it yourself with this magical sentence:"Olah chica!". If you recognize her from the last time, say you are happy to see her again: "Me alegro de verte".

If it is the first time start the usual introducting questions. What's you're name: "Como te llamas?" My name is..."Me llamo...", How old are you "Cuanto anos tienes?" I'm ... "Tengo..anos" Again you need to count till 100 (well I hope to less). Where do you come from :" De Donde eres?" She will usually reply she is from Colombia "Soy de Colombia" and you will answer "Soy de ...".

Try to compliment her. I know, it sounds bullshit to you, but believe me any woman in world, even SW love to hear compliments. If it looks difficult to you, just imagine that everytime you give a compliment, her pussy is getting wet. Do it before, during and even after sex, unless you are just looking for quick sex. I'm presuming here that you are looking for GFE sex.

Your eyes turn me crazy "Tus oyos me vuelven loco"
You are the most beautiful girl here "Eres la chica mas guapa de aqui" At least I hope this is true, if you find another girl more beautiful, then go to see her.
I like your smile "Me gusta to sonrisa"
I like your perfume "Quiero tu perfume"
You have a wonderful body "Tienes un cuerpo bonito"
What a nice hair "Que pelo!"

Try to become more personal, asking if her parents are in Colombia "Tus padres viven en Columbia", do you have children "Tienes hijos", do you have brother and sisters "tengas hermanos y hermanas?" are you married "Eres Casada?" She or you willl answer you have one boy and one girl "Tengo un hijo y un hija", you are married "estoy casado"

Don't make it like a police investigation at that point you need to be sensitive and have compation. Say that it is not easy working here and having her children there "No es facil trabajar aqui y tus hijos en Colombia".

At that time, the girl wil probably start to speak freely and your job is to listen. No matter if you don't understand everything, just look interested to what she is telling you and look her straight in her eyes, while you touch her very lightly any part of her body but a sexual zone.

Ask her if she wants to drink anything :"Quieres beber algo". She will receive a small tip for this from the bar, at least she will not get the impression to lose time and money while discussing with you.

Try to learn by heart a very small story about yourself, your country, something about her country, no matter what. It will help you to fill the blanks. If you have no Spanish sentences left anymore, and she doesn't help you more by speaking herself, use the bodylanguage: smile, caress her hairs and so on.

After a while, she will bring you back to business and ask you to go to the room. She will usually give you the price. Els you may ask "Cuanto es?" If she uses any word like "fucky...fucky", just correct her and reply you want GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el amor". Even if she looks surprised, or finds it funny, she will consider it on another way. You made it clear you didn't come only for a quick fuck like the usual customers, you want more. This is my best advise. Never bargain the price, it is an offense to her, but instead ask for the best service. Even if she is not impressed about the effort you made to be nice to her which I doubt, at least she will understand that she might earn more money if she gives the best of her.

Once in the room pay the asked price (once again, I hoped you have learned to count Spanish in order to avoid any problem at that point) and undress. At that point, if you expect GFE, I hope you took care to take a shower and have good breath. Else, you might ask her before if you can ask her bathroom (it is not standard, but they never refused it to me). "Puedo tomar una ducha?" and add that it will be nicer for her "Es mas agradable para ti tambien".

When she is undressed, you defenitly have to give again a compliment."Que maravillosa!" as it is the most intimate moment.

Start smooth prelimenaries, get sometimes closer to her mouth, and as soon as you feel she will allow it, start to kiss. Again, this is not standard, but they never refused it to me. Look at her in touch her as if she is very pressious. Never enter your finger in her pussy, before you are sure it is wet. It might hurt her, and she will put lub.

Don't let her at any time put lub, don't let her also put you directly a condom. Tell her you want to go smoothly. "Suavamente, tenemos tiempo".

Once you're ready for intercourse, let her put you the condom. Again don't let her put any lub. If she is worried about it, get your face closer to her pussy. If everything smells OK, you lick her pussy. Else, spit on your finger and gently make her pussy wet. At that point you can start to stimulate also her clitoris.

If you want to ask her for a BJ, ask her "Puedes chupparme"

If you feel she is confortable enough, you can start intercourse on the missionary position. This will aloow you to controll the most sensitive part, the beginning. start very smoothly, as she needs to get wet by herself.

If you feel she is wet enough, you can try all your favorite positions. The doggy style is "Perrito", if you want her to come on you ask "Puedes venir arriba". Take care all the time that she is also confortable and that she also enjoys it. Don't forget to compliment her sometimes, even small words like "Rica!" or "Me gusta mucho". Be sensitive and ask her also : "Te gusta?".

With all these efforts, you have probably reached your goal and you are having GFE. The rest is up to you.

Zing23
08-25-05, 22:24
The legal brothels in St Maarten are never mentioned in the tourist literature and seldom mentioned in the newspaper.

Recently a girl was robbed at the Seaman's Club and it made it into the Daily Herald newspaper. Here is the online link

http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/i75/exotic75.html

In case the link doesn't work, here is the story:

Man steals over US $1,000
from exotic dancer’s purse

PHILIPSBURG--Police are investigating an incident in which a man who had gone to Seamen’s Club in Sucker Garden entered the room of one of the exotic dancers and stole more than US $1,000 from her purse while she was in the bathroom.

Police spokesman Inspector Johan “Janchi” Leonard said the incident had occurred around 4:00pm Thursday. He said the victim had told police the suspect had fled the scene in a waiting vehicle before security could catch him.

It appears that the man had made a special arrangement with the dancer, A.A.G. (30) of Colombia, for which he was expected to make payments. He entered the dancer’s room and removed US $1,000 and 300 euros she had in a black purse in the room.

When she exited the bathroom, the suspect had already left the room. She allegedly saw the purse was on the ground and ran out to stop the suspect after she saw that it was empty, but was too late.

She reported the matter to police that same day and detectives have been out in search of the suspect.

Grand Pollo
08-27-05, 04:30
There are many mistakes in the Spanish for a guidebook for rookies and since we want to educate mongers here are the proper ways to say this, (see corrections in parenthesis)

Remember nouns and adjectives are feminine for women, querer "to want" is coarse vs. to like something (I'd like a Coke is nicer than I want a Coke). Learn how to use gustar. This guide with corrections is still useful.

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She will insist asking why: "Porque?". (por que? - porque is because)

If she insists by you don't want girls? "No quiro (quieres or quiere for you, quiero is I) Chicas?" answer this time you want a girl, but a girl in particular: "Quiero una chica, pero une (una - female) chica (no en) particular" (or especial).

Take a beer at the bar by asking: "Quiro (quiero) una cerbeza" or if you prefer Coca Cola "Quiero una Coca Cola". Ask the price "Cuanto es (cuanto cuesta or cuanto vale) ?".

(Note "quiero" is an abrupt way to ask for someting, use Gustaria instead -gustaria una coca cola.)

Have a look around, and as usual the most beautiful girls will not approach you. Do it yourself with this magical sentence:"Olah (Hola) chica!". If you recognize her from the last time, say you are happy to see her again: "Me alegro (alegre -to me is pleasing) de verte".


How old are you "Cuanto anos (años - with a "nasal n sound" since anos asks how many anuses do you have) tienes?"

Your eyes turn me crazy "Tus oyos (ojos - pronounced ohos) me vuelven loco" (Better to say Tus ojos me hacen loco - make me loco vs. return to me)

You are the most beautiful girl here "Eres la chica mas guapa de aqui" ( la mayor is the best, mas is more without a comparitive. This says you are the more pretty of here - Say eres la mayor bonita que todas otras chicas aqui - you are the most beautiful girl here).

I like your smile "Me gusta to (tu) sonrisa"
I like your perfume "Quiero (Me gusta) tu perfume" - (This says I want your perfume - you want to say I like your perfume).

You have a wonderful body "Tienes un cuerpo bonito" (cuerpa bonita for feminine adjectives and nouns - unless she is a man)

What a nice hair "Que pelo!" (This is just what hair! which could be insulting as it is often odd enough looking - Que pelo bonita! - what pretty hair)

Try to become more personal, asking if her parents are in Colombia "Tus padres viven en Columbia" (?), do you have children "Tienes hijos" (?), do you have brother and sisters "tengas (Tienes - tengas is subjunctive not indicative) hermanos y hermanas?"

Say that it is not easy working here and having her children there "No es facil trabajar aqui y (con - with, not y - and) tus hijos en Colombia".

Ask her if she wants to drink anything :"Quieres beber (tomar)( is used for beverages) algo".

After a while, she will bring you back to business and ask you to go to the room. She will usually give you the price. Els you may ask "Cuanto es (Cuanto cuesta or vale)?"

GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el (no el) amor".

"Puedo tomar una ducha?" (Puedo ducharme?) and add that it will be nicer for her "Es mas agradable para ti tambien". (Try Quiero que vengas en la ducha conmigo por favor - I want you to come in the shower with me)

If you want to ask her for a BJ, ask her "Puedes chupparme" (Chuparme, and this asks if she can - say quiero que me chupes _ iwant you to suck me - you need the subjunctive)

If you feel she is wet enough, you can try all your favorite positions. The doggy style is "Perrito", if you want her to come on you ask "Puedes venir arriba" (Many Latinas use terminar which means to finish, for this, not venir, which means come to us and not always to them. I am not sure she can come on you - of you want to come on her just come on her and don't bother asking.)

Regulr Travlr
08-27-05, 15:52
Grand Pollo and Routard,

Thank you very much for your language guides. They should find a home somewhere else on this forum where more people will get to them.

I am planning a trip to spanish speaking countries in the fall and this will be added to my study guide.

Traveller

Ricker
08-28-05, 04:29
el cuerpo ... the body ... is a masculine noun in espanol ... always takes the masculine adjective too ...

"tienes un cuerpo bonito" ... for man or woman.

Suerte!

Chris H
10-10-05, 02:53
I finally made it down to St. Maarten, and all I can say is UNREAL!! The bars here blow Tijuana a way!!!! The price for beer at all the bars are $2, and that is even the price for the ladies too. The girls do not try to rip you off, and you don't have to worry about corrupt police, and the price to have a great time with a beautiful is $40 at the most, and there is no stupid knock on the door trying to rush you. for the guys on the board who have been to TJ, or read the TJ board know what I am talking about. Lets get started with some details.


Seamens Club--

Hands down the best place on the island. The women are AWESOME, SEXY, and willing to do what ever for a nice price. And don't forget all beers are only $2, mixed drinks are $3. I don't remember any of the girls names that I did but I do have pics. The place starts hopping around 11am, and I have no idea how long it is open.


Defiance---

Another great club, but not as many girls walking around. I only did one girl from here, but would be sure to visit this bar again.


Le Petit--


The road to this bar has been fixed somewhat, and it is worth the drive to see these SEXY women walking around half naked, ready to FUCK.

I went to one other bar, but can't remember the name of it. Enjoy the pics!!!

Chris H
10-10-05, 02:56
Enjoy!!!! I love how the girls are not camera shy!!

Chris H
10-10-05, 02:59
I would not go with the girl unless she was ready to take some pics!!

Chris H
10-10-05, 03:03
This was the first and best girl that i had on this day and she loved the camera.

Notidik
10-10-05, 05:43
This was the first and best girl that i had on this day and she loved the camera.
This girl has the butt of the century! Keep it up, lucky guy....

Regulr Travlr
10-10-05, 14:00
I have been on the island a couple of times on a cruise. We just hung out at the beach near the pier. Had a great time.

I would like to spend a few days here on a trip around the Caribbean. Where are some decent places to stay on the Dutch side.

Thanks

Member #3199
10-10-05, 18:33
Try "Mary's Boon". You can probably google it and find all the info. I stayed there for a few days and it was just terrific! Right on the beach by the airport, and during the day the planes land almost right on top of you, but it is more exciting than irritating. No noise at night.

They have a bar submerged in the pool which is neat.

Alan
10-10-05, 22:27
Friend,

Just remember that most of the P4P action is not near the airport though. The closer to the city you are the better for you. Seamens and all the others are in the same vicinity near the town area about half an hour from the airport and the main hotels.

Alan

Zing23
10-17-05, 11:56
First is a picture of the Seaman's Club. It is set back in a fenced parking lot (good security for your car). The inside is not as upscale looking. plain concrete , but the girls are cute.

Second is a picture of the Petite Chateau, which is set in a big dirt area
across from the Little League stadium. When it rains, this area is a mud pile.
I haven't been inside yet.

Read the earlier reports for precise driving instructions.

Routard
10-17-05, 16:54
sint maarten is my favourite island in the caribbean. high standard hotels, marvellous beaches with crystal clear water, all [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) available, tax free shopping, excellent dinning especially on the french side, casinos everywhere on the dutch side, very nice beach bars with life music (watching the airplanes landing right above the beach at the sunset bar is a must), and extended night life.

sint maarten is the smallest piece of land shared by two countries. this small island 70km2 and 70000 inhabitants has two power generators for two different electrical networks, the 50hz 220v european standards for the french side and 60hz 110v us standards for the dutch side. there are also two telephone networks, to call the french side 00 590, and to call the dutch side 00 599. but when driving around the island, you will not even notice when you cross the boarder.

official languages are french on the french side and dutch on the dutch side, but the most used language is english. however, in the dutch brothels, most girls speak only spanish.

how to get there

the international air traffic is managed by juliana airport on the dutch side.

from europe, there are daily air france and corsair flights from paris, and klm flights from/to amsterdam.

from northern america, there are daily american airlines, continental airlines and us airlines flights from/to us and air canada flights from canada.

winair has flights to santo domingo, tortolla, anguilla, saba, eustatius, nevis, st kitt’s, dominica,and antigua. air jamaica has flights to/from jamaica.

dca has flights to/from curaçao. bwie has flights to/from trinidad. both can be used as a stop over for south america.

the smaller airport grand case on the french side has daily air caraibes and air antilles flights from/to guadeloupe, martinique, sint barth but also santo domingo.

no visa is required.

money

the official currency on the dutch side is the naf, and the euro on the french side. however, the most used currency is the us dollar. as the tourism is focused on us tourists, nearly everywhere, including for our hobby the rule is: 1$us=1€. so my best advise is to pay always in $us, it will save you up to 20%. there are atm everywhere, and they delivery the 3 currencies.

safety

sint maarten is very safe. there is crime related to drug, but as a tourist you will not notice it. yes, even crime will take care not to bother the tourists! for any medical emergency, my advice is to head for the hospital in marigot. it’s a small hospital, but it is on french standards, and if they can’t handle it, they will manage the transfer to guadeloupe. never forget that on the french side, you are in eec.

lodging

my advice is to book hotel together with the air flight with a travel agent. once in sint maarten, unless you can use the business rates for local companies, it will be much more expensive.

my advice is to take a hotel at orient bay on the french side, the most beautiful beach of sint maarten (with even a nude section!), with excellent animation and not too far from the brothels. alamanda resort (0590 52 87 40), blue beach (0590 87 33 34), cap caraibes (0590 52 94 94), capri (0590 87 42 14), caribbean princess (0590 52 94 94), esmeralda (0590 87 36 36), green cay (0590 87 38 63), plantation (0590 29 58 00), l’hoste (0590 87 42 08), orient bay (0590 87 31 10), palm court (0590 87 41 94), st tropez (0590 87 42 01).

another great place is maho, close to most dutch night life places, but far from the brothels. mullet bay (543 2801), the towers (545 3069), caravanseral (545 4000), royal islander (545 2388), maho bay (545 2115), atrium (542 2126), flamingo (544 3900), horny toad guest house (545 4323), la chatelaine (545 4269), royal palm (544 3737), simpson bay yacht club (544 2799), tradewinds (544 4206), turquoise (545 2846).

if you want to be the close to the brothels, head either to oyster point: captain oliver (0590 87 40 26), caravelle (0590 87 39 49), colombus (0590 87 42 52), sol ambiance (0590 29 38 00), soleil de minuit (0590 87 34 66) oyster bay (543 60 40) princess heights (543 6906) or to phillipsburg: caribbean (542 2028), great bay (542 2446), holland house (542 2572), horizon view (543 2110), mid town (542 6837), passangrahan (542 3588), sea palace (542 2700), seaview (542 23 23).

local transport

there are taxis everywhere, but they tend to be expensive. for example to head to seamen’s club from the airport, it’s 20$. as you have to come back also, it will be 40$. for that price, you can rent a car. all international rental car companies are available at airport: hertz, avis, budget… they tend to be more expensive than the local companies which are also reliable. try this one, available at both airports: united (phone 00 599 545 2616 or 00 590 771016). they have new small automatic ac cars for 35€/day and it’s reliable.

strip club

platinium at maho beach resort is the best strip club, with 20-30 gorgeous girls from eastern europe and canada. g string lap dance for 20$, private nude lap dance is 30$ for one song. sex is not available, i tried it once, and she professionally advised me to head for casablanca or seamen’s club!

other strip clubs are golden eyes in simpson bay and solid gold at atlantis world casino in cupecoy mullet bay. there is also a strip club named cat outside the tourism area, on the road north of salt pond. most customers are locals. girls are mainly from english speaking caribbean islands (jamaica...). here, sex is available, as girls do all nighters for 150-200$.

brothels

they are all on the same track. it starts at the traffic light close to the police office on the north part of phillipsburg, on the road along the salt pond. at this traffic light (our starting point km 0), you'll notice a building with "university" spelled on in. just take that road toward the university. after a few 100m, it becomes a sand road. on your right you will see a stadium, on your left you have "le petit chateau" (400m from the starting point). go further until the road starts again to become asphalted. again on your left you will have "crystal club” and on you right “carolina” in front of crystal club (1km from starting point). at the t crossing go right until you cross again the main road between phillipsburg and oyster pond. take this road left, toward oyster pond. after 100m, you will find on your left side "seamen’s club" (1.5km from starting point). continuing on the road towards oyster pond, you will find just after having past a top "kapper bar" or "defiance" on your right hand (3km from starting point). further on the road downhill you will have on your right "sunset bar" (4.5km from starting point). continue straight on and just before oyster pond on a hill at the right side "casablanca" or "border bar" (5km from starting point). the pictures attached to the report make the brothels more easy to find.

you are free to enter and to exit of all these bars without paying anything (drinks starts from 2$). so feel free to check them all and make your own opinion. all these clubs are safe.

even if you are with your wife, and even if you are only spending the day coming from a cruise ship, drop her at phillipsburg for shopping and take a 6$ cab for a 5min drive to the brothels. it’s open even at daytime. don’t feel guilty, as you will not be able to spend as much as your wife will do on shopping!

le petit chateau

this place open’s in the afternoon till 3am.it is a big place with bar and pools, but there are mainly locals. however, don't feel uncomfortable being the only white guy, as we are in caribbean. if it will be noticed that you are alone, most of the time somebody will offer you a drink. but for the action you are looking for, it is not worth. dominican girls, overage and/or overweighed (rate 3-5). rates are 40$, but can be bargained to 30$.

crystal club

this is the worst club, i never stayed more than 1 minute. no tourists, a few dominican girls, overage and/or overweighed (rate 3-5). rates can be as low as 25$, but room facilities are poor.

carolina

this is a hidden gem. i just discovered it during my last visit, even if i know sint maarten quite well for already a few years. it’s in front of crystal club, but it’s confusing as it has a barber/beauty parlor in front, as well as a regular restaurant. once inside the building, you will notice the door to the club. the club looks like a disco, with bar and stage. about 20 girls aged 20-30 rated 5-8 from colombia. this club has by far the most upscale facilities from all the brothels. it’s a former hotel, the rooms are clean, ac with individual bathrooms. there are even a few apartments, as well as a vip area with jacuzzi and karaoke! this area can be hired with a small group of friends: make your private fkk! the girls/men ratio is excellent, as this club is not well known. rates are 40$ for 25min, but the girls take there time. the club starts at 10am till 3am, however most girls don’t spend all daytime waiting for customers. escort is available for 150-200$ a day and a bar fee of 45$. you can even stay at night in a room for 50$/room+150-200$/girl. if you have no hotel, it may be considered, as rooms are ok.

seamen’s club

this used to be my favourite club. this place is supposed to cater for seamen. as most nowadays are from cruise ships at sint maarten on daytime, there is quite a lot animation even on afternoon. the club opens at 11am and closes at 3am. don’t be scared by the bad guys in front of the door, they are only taxi drivers waiting for customers.

i like the atmosphere of this bar. inside, you have some sea related items, reminding you the name of the place. in the evening, there is a snack opening at the parking where you can eat some snacks.. during day time, there are only 5 to 10 chicas, and as much customers. during night-time, there are around 25 to 30 chicas, and 30 to 40 customers. the chicas are aged 20-25 from colombia and rated 5-8. there is a wide diversity under the customers: japanese and filipino seamen’s, black locals, white tourists, latinos, you name it. there is always some nice music, mostly latin music, as the lady behind the bar is from dominican republic. the atmosphere is very relaxed, no hassling from the girls, no bad behaviour from the customers. i even noticed several local groups (white french from the french side) accompanied with their wife or girl friend pass along having a drink.

most are from colombia (especially cali), and some from dominican republic. they are on 3-month contract (for visa reasons) and can not come back in sint maarten before 1 year. they work hard in order to bring back money to their family. most have everyday telephone contact with their family in columbia, as it is their only motivation. most of these girls are probably not working girls when they are back at home in their own country. during their stay, the chicas live two in one ac room, every room having one large bed. the shower and wc are shared by two rooms. lunch and dinner is offered in the kitchen area (not allowed for customers). the chicas are not allowed to get out, or they have to pay a fine at the bar, the same you have to pay to get her out (60$). at 9pm, they must be there, as they have to register themselves in a book at the bar. if you are at that moment at the bar, you are sure to see all of them. a white lady, the kind of one you won't expect in such place is the manager in charge (the owner itself is a guy from st maarten, but you will never see him there). she takes great care about the chicas. this explains may be why the atmosphere is much more relaxed here than in the other clubs

the going rate is 40$ for 20 min bj and fs protected. you may get down the price to 30$. if you ask for it, you can use the shower in the room. escort is also possible. day escorting starting from 11 am till 9pm (as they must be back again at 9pm) or evening escorting from 9pm to 3 pm. starting price is 300$, but you may get it down to 100$. you have to pay the bar fine (60$) separately from the chica. i once managed to get a chica out for 50$ during daytime, as she just arrived and was curious to look around the island. but most of the time, she just will calculate the money she would have earned by staying at the club. the 8 rating chicas will not go for 100$. there are a few 9 rated chicas you will nearly never spot in the club, as they work mostly on escort basis.

i have excellent memories at this place, it’s here that i started to learn spanish and where i made my first salsa steps. yes, my latina addiction started here!

defiance/kapper’s

a good parking lot, a snack outside, rooms from a former hotel, and a disco where you can meet the chicas. few tourists, about 10-15 girls, age 20-30, rated 4-6, most are dominican with a few colombianas. going rate is 40$ fs and bj. th place opens in the afternoon and closes at 3am.

sunset retreat

opens in the evening till 3am. this place looks like a disco with 5-10 girls mostly dominicanas rated 4-6. customers are locals. going rate is 30-40$ for fs and bj

casa blanca / border bar

casablanca is the biggest brothel with nice facilities (including a restaurant) and 30-40 girls. most are from dominican republic. customers are a mix of tourists and locals. it opens in the afternoon and closes at 5am. they make the girls go on stage for strip shows. but sorry, i don't like it. it is a hard core brothel, i rate the girls 4-6, with most 4. i find their attitude also too aggressive, a lot of hassling. to go to the room, you have to pay 45$ or 45€ through a small window, before you are allowed to enter the bedroom area with the girl. rooms are air-conditioned, have a bathroom and are rather clean.

swing club

there is a swing club at the french side, club 241 (0690 50 41 70). however, this is a resort, and you have to book your stay before. it's only for couples. the website is www.club241.net.

escort

selina are advertising as a swing club, but they can arrange escorting. i have never experienced it, but it has been reported that pricing is 150$/night including the room and a bottle of wine, which is a bargain. if you are looking for a hotel to stay, the girl is included! girls are caribbean. the contact is through email: www.selina-libertin.com.

general opinion

sint maarten is imho the best place for action in the caribbean. i know that most will consider dominican republic to be better. yes, dr is much bigger and offer much more action opportunities than sint maarten. but for some reason i don’t like dr action. i’m a latina lover, and dominican girls are not latinas but caribbean. you have to act more as a macho with dominican, else they will not respect you. it’s clearly about money, they will not help you to forget it. the colombian girls, like most latinas, are feminine, sensual and passionate. if you give bfe, she will give you gfe. if you have the right feeling, and for this you will need to speak spanish, have some knowledge about latin culture, including salsa dancing skills, those girls will give their heart and soul. it’s in seamen’s club that i experienced for the first time giving a genuine orgasm to a sex worker.

curaçao has also good action with colombian chicas, but there is mainly only one brothel (campo allegre), even if it is the biggest of the caribbean. sint maarten in comparison offers much more diversity in places.

i made also a report about cuba, but imho, cuba can not be considered as a mongering country, as there are no brothels, only amateur action is available.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=379165&postcount=1111

i added also a pic of a chica i met in carolina. this is not a porn pic, just a nice picture from a nice girl, only for informative purpose about the kind of girls to expect here. my last memory of her was when she waved at me from the main door to say goodby. she was a very interesting person, there was a good chemistry. she gave me her phone number, hoping i would come back. it's heartbreaking leaving such a sweat nice girl in her shit.

Regulr Travlr
10-18-05, 00:23
Thanks Routard

Very comprehensive report. As I mentiond I have really enjoyed the island and the people on my brief visits. I will definitely be booking a stay here. My goals is to save up enough cash and time to do a little island hopping.

Thanks for your comments also Alan and 3199.

Wwwever
10-18-05, 00:34
Wow Routard, thanks for the great report!!

Wish I've read this before I went to St. Maarten a few months back.

Just a few points:

Sex is available at Platinum room. I received an offer for $500,= (after work in my room). I passed on that, cause I like the Latina's, not to mention the high price.

The other stripclubs, Golden eye was closed when I was there (on a weekend). And I couldn't find Solid Gold in/near the Atlantis World Casino. Does it still exist?

I myself stayed in the Holland House on Frontstreet in Phillipsburg. Pretty good hotel and most important of all it is Girl Friendly. No questions asked whatsoever.
My favourate brothel is Seamans aswell. I kind of missed all the places on the road along the university (my bad..) but will be back in SXM in a few weeks!!!

I agree St. Maarten has a lot more diversity compared to Curacao (I live in Cur), but one big plus for curacao are the low prices. Only 50 NAF or $28 a round. These low prices are still too steep for the locals, so the majority of the customers that take a girl here are from Europe and the US. And besides campo there are a lot more hidden places for p4p. Some described in the Curacao thread.

Some of the chica's I've had in the last few months in Campo are now working in St. Maarten.

I'l mention one: Leslie, slim very big assed colombiana, pretty with beautiful long hair and very accomodating. I belief she's now working at Defiance. And I really don't have to describe her more, that ASS is a give-away.

You really should visit her, and say hi from Michael (from Curacao) for me (Like she'd remember!)

Again thanks for the great reports and I hope I can contribute a bit more in the near future

PogoStick
10-18-05, 03:40
Routard,

Awesome report! I go to St Maarten several times a year and I still learned a lot from your post.

I have been to Seamans and CasaBlanca several times and have had good experiences everytime.

I never could find Petite Chateau, but with your directions it should be no problem at all, plus now I know a couple of new places to check out. In fact, I'll be in St Maarten later this week and am looking forward to new experiences.

A few of my other experiences.

Platinum Club: Drop-dead gorgeous women from all over. Poland, Russia, Italy, Brazil and even the US. But they are only there for the bux. You can take them home, but home better be one of the big yachts or something. They believe that their asses are their greatest assets and real platinum is cheap by comparison. You'll have to kiss Ben Franklin goodbye at least 10-15 times to even get them to think about it.

Golden Eye: Mostly eastern European girls...VERY beautiful and very friendly. I hung out with one from Poland that spoke fluent English and was a very good conversationalist. I sat with her for about three hours and only bought her about 3 drinks. (I think around $5 each) She never once tried to hustle me for a private session but instead was an almost perfect first date GFE. I did take her private for a couple songs ($20 each) It was an International experience with a Polish girl, Roamin' hands, Rushin' Fingers, and an old fat American. We did almost everything but FS or BJ. Lot's of rubbing, touching, carressing, and some good titty fucking. Of course I gave her a fresh liquid pearl necklace which she enjoyed quite a bit. I probably could have taken her home for a reasonable amount but, I had a date at Club Seline.

Club Seline. It is billed as a swing club and although I have heard rumours that there actually may be some swing parties, there was never one when I was on island. But they did offer a "private swing party" for $150. I decided to give it a try.

I popped a Vitamin V (purchased OTC at Philipsburg Pharmacy, downtown) just as Girard picked me up at the Travel Inn. A short ride up a steep hill led to a beautifull villa overlooking Simpson Bay. I paid him the fee, which he said was only for the house. He said the girl was here because she enjoyed meeting people and no tip was required or expected. I was welcome to stay until morning.

I was introduced to a delightful dark chocolate girl from the DR. She wore a very elegent and sexy evening dress. She was well educated and fluent in English. Gerard opened a bottle of wine and dissapeared.

We sat on a couch looking at the view and talked a while, just getting to know each other. She said she worked as a secretary for a shipping broker. After a little cuddling, we got up to dance for a while and then headed to the bedroom. I won't go into full details, but will say it was a total GFE. Very relaxed, lots of laughing and some outrageously good sex that included, massage, toys, BBCIM, BBFS, and every entrance. We alternated between playing and sleeping until the sun came up.

I will do Club Seline again, but I also like the fun of prowling the casas and sampling several different dishes from the never ending buffet.

Does anyone have any info on the Player's Club. It is in Simpson Bay upstairs from the Subway, near the Travel Inn and across from Rancho Steakhouse. I don't know if it is a strip joint, brothel or both. If no one knows anything I might just have to take one for the team.

St Maarten is pure heaven. Good food (Johnny B's Under the Tree!!!), great casinos with some serious poker rooms (helps pay for the fun!) Normal nightlife is also fantastic with plenty of single gals from all over the world.

At a few places like Sunset Beach Bar near the airport and the Perch on Orient Beach one can find all sorts of friendly singles and couples that are open to erotic good times. It takes a good personality and some fluency with the swinger terminology to hook up but if you do....you'll have a night to remember.

And the possibilities for mongers to indulge in the hobby are endless.

Time to go pack my bags. Gotta stop at Condom World in San Juan on my way to St Maarten so I can bring some gifts to the girls.

I'll try to report in from the field.

Pogo

Tbird
10-18-05, 07:58
I’m a Latina lover, and Dominican girls are not Latinas but Caribbean. You have to act more as a macho with Dominican, else they will not respect you. It’s clearly about money, they will not help you to forget it. The Colombian girls, like most Latinas, are feminine, sensual and passionate. If you give BFE, she will give you GFE. If you have the right feeling, and for this you will need to speak Spanish, have some knowledge about Latin culture, including salsa dancing skills, those girls will give their heart and soul. It’s in Seamen’s Club that I experienced for the first time giving a genuine orgasm to a sex worker.

My last memory of her was when she waved at me from the main door to say goodby. She was a very interesting person, there was a good chemistry. She gave me her phone number, hoping I would come back. It's heartbreaking leaving such a sweat nice girl in her shit.

Routard, I have been to Campo 5 times, and never to St. Maarten. Every time in Campo I have exclusively been with Colombianas, just a gut feeling...looks like you have a bit of the same.

And you are right, with most of the Colombian women if you treat them right it will be GFE x 10, with climax after climax after climax when the girl herself (never mind you) loses track of time.

However, I would STRONGLY recommend keeping in touch with the girls who open up to you. I know I have and it has made my visits to Colombia absolutely divine, since over there you can meet up on a rather different basis.

Zing23
10-18-05, 14:37
Excellent report.

The only thing I would disagree with is the idea that St Maarten is crime free. I have lived on neighboring islands for 10 years and shop in St Maarten regularly. The consensus here is that crime is a problem in St Maarten: robbery, the occassional carjacking of tourists, even murder.

However, normal precautions as you would apply in the states are all that you need (don't flash around wads of money, don't wander drunk alone down Backstreet in Philipsburg at night, etc.) At any organized venue such as a brothel, security is usually excellent.

Thanks for posting.

Routard
10-18-05, 23:25
Thank's guys for all your positive reactions about my report.

Pogostick,
Good report about Selina, confirming what I've heard about it but never experienced myself. You gave me also the excellent info that V is available at Phillipsburg Pharmacy. Could be nice to have some more info about it.

Zing23,
I know there are a lot of local discussions about security issues in Sint Maarten. Still, the tourist is not the main target for crime like in other countries. As usual, normal precautions have to be taken.

wwwever,
First time I hear that sex is available in Platinium. But with such high price, can we really call it "available"? LOL! I remember a girl in Platinium trying to sell me a lapdance. I politely replied that I was not interested, I was just there for my collegue. When she said: "that's what they all say", I explained her that I was not shy for that, but that I was used to fuck for the price of her lapdance!

TBird,
I really enjoy your reports about Curaçao, and we have the same feelings about the Colombianas. I've been once in Campo Allegre. The chica's are as nice as those in Sint Maarten, but I felt unconfortable with the environment. A former military camp (even if I agree that they made a lot of efforts to rebuild it) is not really sexy! You really should make a try to Sint Maarten, you will love it! As there is no entry fee, you hop from one bar to another, and it really gives the illusion that you are picking up girls in regular bars. And if you prefer day or night escorts, Sint Maarten is the sin island of the Caribbean, there is plenty of nightlife entertainment to enjoy with the chica. There is a daily DCA flight between Curaçao and Sint Maarten (220$ return ticket if I remember).

I'm impressed you dared to go to Colombia to visit the chicas you have met. As they are only for a short contract in Sint Maarten or Curaçao, I always wondered how could be their real life once back in Colombia. Are they still in business once in Colombia, do they have pimps, or are they simple girls trying once to earn enough money during a short time abroad in order to help their family? Yes, call me sentimental, but I care for those girls. They desearve to be happy.

Have Fun
Routard

PogoStick
10-19-05, 01:19
Thank's guys for all your positive reactions about my report.

Pogostick,
Good report about Selina, confirming what I've heard about it but never experienced myself. You gave me also the excellent info that V is available at Phillipsburg Pharmacy. Could be nice to have some more info about it.I contacted them via their website http://www.stmartinstmaarten.com/pharmacy/main.html and requested info about V. They wrote back asking for a copy of my Drs scrip. (I don't have one) I walked in a few days later and talked to the pharmacist, who is also the owner. I told him that I forgot my scrip. He said he would go ahead and take care of me anyhow. He also has a Dr at a clinic next door that will write you a scrip for a few bux.

They carry all the brand name vitamins: V, L C etc. at about half the US prices. They also have generics from India that are even less and work just as well.

The pharmacist is pretty cool and once he has you in his computer, you are good to go for life.

I am in San Juan right now, but am taking it easy tonight. PR is just too expensive for fair to poor quality P4P. I can have 3 or 4 much finer girls or a TLN in St Maarten for the same price as a ST in San Juan.

I travel all the Netherland Antilles and am just to spoiled to even try mongering in San Juan. I love cruising the brothels in SXM and the back streets of San Nicolas in Aruba. And of course Curacao and Campo!

The Dutch really know how to offer a good mongering experience.

Pogo

225mmk
10-19-05, 04:54
I will be in St. Maarten in 2 days. I will be traveling with my wife but am sure I will get some free time again this year. I appreciate some of the new postings and my venture to a few new places this year and will post my findings when I return.

Tbird
10-19-05, 17:54
There is a daily DCA flight between Curaçao and Sint Maarten (220$ return ticket if I remember).

I'm impressed you dared to go to Colombia to visit the chicas you have met. As they are only for a short contract in Sint Maarten or Curaçao, I always wondered how could be their real life once back in Colombia. Are they still in business once in Colombia, do they have pimps, or are they simple girls trying once to earn enough money during a short time abroad in order to help their family? Yes, call me sentimental, but I care for those girls. They desearve to be happy.

Have Fun
Routard


Most of them are not working in Colombia or at least desperately try not to. The vast majority of these girls are simply trying to help out their families, since other jobs do not pay anything or are not available at all. Some have to stay in the business; but generally they do not work back in Colombia. Por ejemplo, my super GFE from July has enrolled in business administration classes, and she says she now has enough money to go through the entire 24-month course and not have to work while studying. She is an amazing woman. We stay in touch and talk on a regular basis.

Just like you, I care for these girls.

Oh, and there is no more DCA. They are bankrupt.

Zing23
10-19-05, 18:21
Update: I checked the road again yesterday and it actually does go through, around the construction. However it was raining and the dirt road had some pretty major pot holes in it. So use the instructions below if the road is to muddy for your rental car!

Original report:

I was in St Maarten last weekend and noticed that the dirt road between Petite Chateau and Crystal/Caroline seemed to be blocked, due to some major construction work on the Pond Fill.

If you run into a deadend after Petite Chateau, here is how to recover.
Turn around, go back to the traffic light, turn left and then take the next left again around the pond on Sucker Garden Road.

Turn left after about 1 kilometer on another paved road (I forget the name, but there is a sign to the zoo and a Columbian restaurant on the right). This is about 100 meters before Seamans. The first significant paved left turn is where you will find Crystal Club (it should stand out).

PogoStick
10-19-05, 23:56
225mmk,

Too bad you will be with the wife. I'll be in St Maarten in about 3 hours. (and at Seamans in about 4) We could have met up and gone hunting together.

Drop the wife off in Phililpsburg with a credit card and let her shop for a while. Seamans is only a short taxi drive away and you could grab a quick one and be back in about an hour. taxi round trip should be around 20, girl will cost 40 but your wife could spend a few grand on bling! (it's the price us married mongers have to pay to keep the home gal happy) Just be sure to take the wife into a perfume shop and get yourself in the way of a sample spray to cover the chica's perfume smells. (married mongers must always be well prepared.)

Tbird,

DCA is bankrupt but they are now operating as Bonaire Express, at least in the ABCs and probably in SXM as well. Same prices, planes and crews.

Pogo

Zing23
10-21-05, 22:04
I am in no way an expert on these brothels (yet!), but I have made a few observations in my 3 times visiting each Seamans, Defiance and Casa Blanca.

1) Seamans is very popular with the cruise ships. Crew members can even walk from the boats if they are short of cash and fit. The ships leave at dusk so Seamans is full of crew members and tourists from 11am to late afternoon. Wed before last there were 3 huge cruise ships at the dock and it was packed.

The Seamans crowd is fun to watch - asian crewmen, tourists in colorful shirts, even one guy who had dragged his unhappy wife in for a 3-some. but since the girls share 2 per room, it can sometimes take your chica several knocks on occupied rooms to find one for you. And she is more likely to worry a bit about spending too much time if people are knocking on the door and asking for their room back. On quiet days, 20 mintues can stretch to quite a long time. I never been in the evening, so cannot comment.

2) Defiance is very quiet in the day - no cruise people. They open between noon and 1pm in a very casual way. The girls are eating lunch at the BBQ area. I saw no evidence that the chicas share rooms, so I have had afternoon delight of 2 hours. The girl and I went to the beach one afternoon - no bar fine, no signing out, no hassle. I went once at night - it is darker, noiser, busier, and the DJ in a cage takes $30 from you and makes a note of when you go to the room with the girl. If you tip more, it is to the girl in the room. If you stay in the room too long (I stayed an extra hour or so), there is a fee to pay to the DJ. My chica negotiated it down to $3 (have no idea if this is std). None of this happens in the daytime - no DJ, no checking.

3) Casa Blanca. Opens a bit later in afternoon. More busy at night, but the system is the same as in the afternoon. You pay $45 to the house (bartender or guard in locked room). The girls seem to have their own rooms and their was no serious time pressure. We stopped when I said so.

Haven't had time since Routard's recommendation to try Carolina.

Chris H
10-22-05, 07:50
Zing,
I was there on that Wed. that you are talking about, and it was pretty crowded. I noticed they had a stage but only one girl danced on it in a nursing outfit when I was there. Do the girls perform more at night up on stage? I plan to return very soon, because the island is an AWESOME place to monger.



Chris H

Zing23
10-23-05, 16:42
Chris H,

I presume that the stage is used more at night. I have not been there at night, but when I was at Casa Blanca and Defiance at night girls were dancing pretty regularly.

Pictures of Defiance

Defiance is not hard to find, if you follow the instructions in this thread. However, it does not have a sign and I wondered if I had found the place the first 2 times I drove past it.

So here are two pictures, the first taken as the you drive up the hill. The big gate entry to Defiance is on your right. The second is taken as you drive in the gate.

Now you know that you are in the right place. The only sign on the front door says "BBQ"!

Zing23
10-29-05, 19:47
To supplement Routard's report on Carolina brothel, which is at

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50

Here is a picture of the Carolina brothel. It is across the street from the turquoise colored Crystal Club. The building looks like a boring office block from the street. There is no sign, and the main door (see arrow in picture) just says "Entrance"! Most girls share a room, but I never had an interruption as I have at Seamans.

All the girls I met there except one were from Columbia. To go to a room with the girl, you pay the bartender $3 for the hotel room. The service is not rushed and I had 2 good experiences with Columbianas here.

My first time there I went with a slim Dominicana, good experience. But next time I saw her at Defiance and she said she was finito at Carolina. My limited Spanish is not good enough to get into chica labor relations.

Next was Valentina from Columbia, very attractive, bleach blond, enhanced breasts, excellent body. DFK, DATY, BBBJ upon request (chuparma sin condom?), CFS. Close to GFE. Will repeat sometime, but I got distracted by next chica.

Anji. Diamond in nose. Wild. Fun. Enhanced breasts, nice body, ok face, but very expressive and great smile. Most enthusiastic provider in my limited P2P experience. DATY, BBBJ, CFS, massage. Vibrator, strawberry flavored lotion, handcuffs and much more in her dresser. Really interested in her work. Saw her twice, each time was different, each was excellent. When I went back the second time it was before noon. I just told the first chica that propositioned me that I was there for Anji, and 10 minutes later she appeared from her room at my side (chica tom-tom I guess, her hair was still wet from the shower).

Zing23
10-31-05, 11:59
To supplement Routard's report (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50) on St Maarten, here is a picture of the Cat's adult night club. It is in a local area behind the pond.

To get to it from Seaman's Club, turn right out the gate, turn right immediately on Bush Road, follow that past the Carolina/Crystal turn off until you deadend at a slightly larger road. Turn left. you will see the building in about 1/4 mile. The picture below was taken from the other direction, so I don't know if you can see the Cat's sign when you come from Seaman's.

I have never been inside, so don't even know where the entry is. But I have seen chicas leaning off the top railing in the afternoon (probably just waking up!) Now that you all know where it is and how to find it, I expect a report from someone.

Routard
10-31-05, 15:44
Will repeat sometime, but I got distracted by next chica.


I know exactly what you're meaning, like a child in a candy store.

Zing23
11-06-05, 18:44
Went to Carolina again 11:30am to see if Anji was available (prev report (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=403437&postcount=65). No sign of her - in fact there were 6 guys at the bar and at most 5 girls awake!

There is a restaurant attached to the bar, so I went in to have a bite to eat. Joined a couple of chicas that were having lunch. Had Bullfoot soup with noodles (an Antilles specialty- I don't recommend it). The girls were having Columbian rice soup - it was much better.

Thanks to Routard and Thunderbird for all the suggestions in this thread for learning spanish and talking to chicas. It works great. I added a detail of my own. The girls in Carolina are mostly from Columbia, and mostly from Cali. So I got a map of Cali from the internet (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_cities/cali.jpg) and asked each to show me where they lived.

No sign of Anji, and I had an appt at Defiance for 1pm, so I decided to move on. I exchanged a quick hola with a new girl at the bar and left. As I was getting into my car, she appeared in the door and called to me. Something like "please don't leave - I am here for you".

I went over to say hello and ask her name (Marianna from Cali) and get a good look. You can get a much better look out in the bright sun than in a dark bar!

Marianna is young (23?), almost my fantasy of a perfect latina: jet black hair to the shoulders, beautiful face and eyes, slim figure with nice natural breasts and hips. Easy to determine this because all she wore was a small halter and very short shorts. In SXM until Dec. She wore a thin retainer on her teeth - you might not notice it.

Marianna has a huge room on the second floor, back corner, down an outside porch. Good airco. Living room, kitchen, king size bed. Almost no other furniture! To get to her room you go thru the gentleman's club, a fancy lounge that opens at 1130pm (too late for me) and going past a large showroom/ballroom (for what?)

Excellent experience. A perfect body. DFK, DATY, FS, terminar en perrito (finished in doggy position), long massage, shower together. I have only been working on my Spanish for about 5 weeks, but she said it was very good (of course I focus on the words and phrases that might come in handy). Sweet, passionate, unrushed. Walked me back out to the car. How quickly I seem to have forgotten the tiger Anji.

Bishop1975
11-07-05, 21:25
Hi,

I just one to know something about brothels: Girls from brothels make BJ without condom? Brothers don't afraid diseases?

Routard
11-08-05, 13:11
Marianna has a huge room on the second floor, back corner, down an outside porch. Good airco. Living room, kitchen, king size bed. Almost no other furniture! To get to her room you go thru the gentleman's club, a fancy lounge that opens at 1130pm (too late for me) and going past a large showroom/ballroom (for what?)


I have met Marianna too, but didn't go to the room with her. She told me she lived in a big appartment instead of a room. She told me also about the Gentlemen's area, but your report confirms all this.

By the way, great idea about the Cali map!

Bishop1975
11-08-05, 13:26
I have met Marianna too, but didn't go to the room with her. She told me she lived in a big appartment instead of a room. She told me also about the Gentlemen's area, but your report confirms all this.I want to know something brothers:

The girls from brothels don't use condom? It's true?

They don't have diseases?

Thx for answers.

Chris H
11-08-05, 15:43
It looks like I am headed back to St.Maarten later this month, but this time to stay for a couple of days. I was wondering if there was any good advice for places to stay that are girl friendly and also a decent but not to expensive place to stay. I saw in eearlier post about a hotel near the scenic part of the island but I want to be close to the brothel scence if possible. It also seems that it is a must to rent a car while down there. Is that true? Any advice would be appreciated.


Chris H

Routard
11-08-05, 16:05
chris,

any hotel in sint maarten is girlfriendly. to be close to the action, head either to pillipsburg or oysterpond. just check my detailled report for the hotel list. if you really want a cheap hotel in the middle of the action, why not take a room in hotel carolina?

bishop,

bj are usuallly covered, but when the girl is confidend (and when i am too), she will do it bbbj with you, and she will do also dfk. with bbbj, daty or dfk there is no risk for hiv syphilis etc.., however there is a small risk for some minor std. transmission is more likely to occur from man to woman with bbbj and from woman to man with daty. hygiene reduces transmission risk. as a rule, i always take a shower before and after, and i ask the girl also to take a shower before. in addition, i drink a lot (non alcoholic), so that i always [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) right after the session. i rarely will do daty, and i will sometimes skip dfk and bbbj if girls seems in bad health, seems not to be medical checked or seems to have lack of hygiene. i will also skip bbbj if i'm hurted due to excess of sex for example. follow these rules, and chances to get anything will be close to zero.

Zing23
11-08-05, 19:01
From The Daily Herald, St Maarten newspaper, Thu Nov 3.

In case this link (http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/i145/brothel145.html) stops working, here is the whole story. Those girls from Dominican Republic are tough!

Two jailed for fight in brothel

PHILIPSBURG--Two men who started a brawl at Casa Blanca Nightclub in Oyster Pond on August 6 were tried and sentenced in the Court of First Instance on Wednesday. Milton Hubert Peters (33) of the United States will have to spend one year in prison, while Jose Elmiro Cannegieter (31) will have to sit for nine months.

The two men got into a brawl with a group of exotic dancers working in the establishment, apparently in a fight over a chair.

Milton Peters stated that he had been sitting on a chair inside the brothel and got up to buy himself a drink. When he returned, a 19-year-old woman from the Dominican Republic had occupied his chair. He asked the girl to return his seat, but she refused. Thereupon the two started a tug-of-war with the chair.

During the scuffle the girl allegedly struck Peters with a bottle, prompting him to punch her in the face. At that moment several other female dancers at the brothel – both suspects stated there were as many as 40 – joined in the scuffle and started throwing bottles at him. Four dancers, all from the Dominican Republic, sustained injuries in the fight.

Cannegieter told Judge Frank Wieland Wednesday that he was innocent and had nothing to do with the fight. But Peters had a different story. He stated Cannegieter had pulled a gun, which enabled them to leave the establishment. However, Peters admitted that he was the actual owner of the firearm.

Peters had been in contact with the law before. He was sentenced to 10 years for manslaughter in 1996.

In this case, Prosecutor Johan de Vrieze considered the charges of threat, manslaughter and the possession of a firearm proven. He requested 18-month prison sentences for both suspects.

In defence of his client, lawyer Stomp pleaded for the acquittal of his client based on the fact that he had acted out of self-defence. “These women stood up for themselves and lined up at the exit. My client had no other way out,” Stomp said.

Attorney-at-law Jairo Bloem was of the same opinion where Peters was concerned. “These women started to fight and my client responded,” according to Bloem. He stated that his client should be acquitted of manslaughter and of having threatened the women, and that Peters could only be convicted of the possession of a firearm.

Judge Wieland considered all charges proven in Peter’s case. He dismissed the self-defence plea because Peters had gotten himself involved in the brawl.

Cannegieter was only found guilty of possession of an illegal weapon. The judge acquitted him of the other charges.

Zing23
11-09-05, 17:53
Here is a map I created from the standard tourist map. it shows the location of all the brothels that I know about.

Bishop1975
11-09-05, 22:06
Is it the best brothel in St Marteen? Girl are ok?

Zing23
11-10-05, 14:23
Is it the best brothel in St Marteen? Girl are ok?I think that Carolina is better, but Seamans is a good place. Girls are very similar at Carolina and Seamans, but of course some leave every week and some new ones arrive from Columbia every week!

Regulr Travlr
11-10-05, 15:47
Zing


Thanks for the map. Most helpful.

I will add it to the one I got from the cruise ship.

Maybe we can start shore excursion company.

Zing23
11-22-05, 19:29
From The Daily Herald, Phillipsburg, St Maarten. Wed Nov 16, 2005.

When reading this article, keep in mind that the event happened at 4:00am and at Casa Blanca brothel, which is the most remote one. I would be careful everywhere in St Maarten at 4am (if i ever stayed up that late!). During the daytime and early evening, even Casa Blanca is generally safe.

"Man Attacked Outside Brothel"

A man R.O. (20) of Curacao was attacked and severly beaten by at least seven young men who stole his personal belongings and US $400 Sunday Nov 13.

The victim told police he had been at the Casa Blanca brothel around 4:00am when he received a phone call. Because of the noise inside the establishment, he went outside the building to converse with his caller.

Not knowing he was being watched, he was engaged in conversation when the suspects rushed him and proceeded to beat him. During the beating he lost a tooth and sustained a swollen left eye and jaw.

He was taken to St Maarten Medical Center (SMMC) for treatment, following which he gave police brief details of the incident. Police spokesman Inspector JOhan "Janchi" Leonard said the victim had claimed he did not know the suspects.

Zing23
11-22-05, 21:10
Following up on my picture of Le Petit Chateau (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399265&postcount=49), here is a report of my visit.

I went in the early afternoon. As you enter there are 4 pool tables, where 2 locals were having a game. I said "good afternoon" which is the standard greeting here (Good night at night instead of good evening) and continued on into the bar. Large circular bar with about 5 or 6 guys and equivalent chicas, well lit by sunlight during the daytime. In the back is an area with benches along the walls that is darker; this is where most of the girls were sitting. I didn't get a good look at them, but they seemed to be mostly the large Dominican girls that Routard described (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50) and that many locals like.

When I went up to the bar to order my drink, one pale skinned girl with a sort of desperate look of trying to be classy greated me in very formal english - she must have memorized it from a course. I replied with "Hola" and moved off to sit and look around.

None of the girls at the bar appealed to me at first glance. I was going to move to the back of the bar and start talking to the many chicas there, when I noticed an attractive, thinner, well-endowed girl with short hair walk across to the bar and order a Vitamin Drink. I moved over and said "Hola" and "Como estas?" She was from Cali Columbia and we had a nice chat in my pitiful Spanish. She showed me pictures of her 3 children on her cellphone and of her beauty parlor in Cali - she earns money in St Maarten to pay for setting up the business. She said she was 34 years old, which must be true, given the size/age of her oldest bambino, but she looked better than many of the 25 year olds.

We agreed on $30 (treinta dollares) to go to her room. Outside the back of the bar is a large courtyard with the girl's rooms all around it. A number of girls were setting on stoops talking, a few guys also. She asked if I wanted the climatization (airco) - I said yes, and she went back with $3 for the bar to get them to turn on the airco in the room. The room was small and ordinary, like at Seamans and Defiance etc.

The sex was good - not super special. I gave her a $10 tip, bringing the cost up to her asking price. She looked just as good without her clothes!

Le Petite Chateau is big and friendly - I will go back sometime, although Caroline and Defiance are my favorites right now.

Bishop1975
11-23-05, 03:04
In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?

Zing23
11-24-05, 01:43
In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?I have never heard of any.

Zing

Alan
11-24-05, 13:35
Zing,

I think you are right about Le Petit Chateau. It is my favorite place on the island for hobbying. The prices are cheaper and I think the chicas are far less aggressive and demanding than Seamans.

There is a one called Elena who is from the Dominican Republic. About 30, oversized breasts and round butt. She does anal for 40. Takes it like a true champ. No fuss and no complaints.

Quite a few younger ones as well, but they are not always receptive to anal offers.

Alan

Tigerman
11-25-05, 19:13
Hi Guys!

A quick note to tell you a bit about my visit to St Maarten last week.

My buddy and me were working in St Maarten and had a few hours of free time in the afternoon. We shared a cab from town, intending to go to the Casa Blanca; we had been to the Island many times before, and because of the time (it was round about 3-30pm) we decided against the Seamens Club, because even though we have had many an enjoyable stay there, during the afternoon it almost always gets pretty well packed with; well Seamen I suppose! (There’s a clue in the name!) I find that wherever you are in the world, when there are a lot of potential clients there for the girls, they tend to be a little rushed and indifferent. Anyway, got chatting to the driver in the taxi, talking about the clubs over the years, and he mentions a place called Carolina’s. I hadn’t visited St Maarten for over a year, but I had not heard of this place before; perhaps it is reasonably new to the scene? Well I felt compelled to give it a try, if only to give all you guys the heads up!

1st of all, the locals use a Spanish sounding pronunciation of the name “Carolina’s”; it sounded a bit like “Ka-ro-leee-naz” (please excuse spelling, and no offence intended to any of you Spanish speaking guys!) The club seemed to be just around the corner, probably easy walking distance, from the Seamens club (I’m not sure if I would be too happy trying that at night on my own though). There were 2 entrances from the street. The one to the right leads into a café/restaurant type place, so it’s the dark and dingy one to the left that you’ll need.

You find yourself in a dimly lit bar, with a stage area set up with a pole. When we arrived (about 4pm-ish) we were the only 2 “punters” but there were plenty of girls; I’d take a guess at about 20. There were a couple of other guys in the bar, but they were running a few of the girls through some dance moves so I assumed that they were something to do with the management.

We had a few beers there; not too expensive: - I think 2 or 3 bucks each, and admired the view. As we were the only 2 guys there, we did have a lot of attention. Almost all of the girls there would have been on my “Do-able” list. As to be expected, they mainly seemed to come from the DR or Colombia, so if tall leggy blond hair and blue eyes is your thing you best not come here! Having said that, none of the girls were old or overweight, I would say 6 out of 10 and upwards, and a good few with a lovely sexy and flirty look about them. Had a chat with a few of the girls. But my attention had been caught by the girl that was going through the dance moves. I was told here name was Valentina, but when she came over, she introduced herself as Vicky; (again with the accent it was more like “Veee-ky!). On speaking to her, it turned out she was 23, from Cartegena, and had only been in St Maarten a few weeks. (I did take a picture on my Cell phone; will see if I can upload it when I figure out how to do it!). Chatted to her for about ½ hour or so. My Spanish is virtually non existent, and so was her English; (As an aside, would it be a good idea if we could get a page on here catering for translations for some of the more, “useful” hobbyist expressions?) Another nice thing; as we were chatting, my friend and me had another beer, and thought it polite to offer the 2 girls “a beer”; (try this line guys. If you offer them a beer/whiskey or whatever you are drinking, then it leaves you room for manoeuvre if the bar maid comes back with a $200 bottle of champagne!) However the girls asked for an Orange juice, and a Red Bull! Top marks!

Took the girls to the room. There was a $3 bar fine to take each girl out. The rooms were off down a corridor to the left of the stage area. They were typical rooms for this part of the world. A little on the grubby side, but with a shower and acceptable A/C. Vicky was a very capable and enthusiastic companion. DFK to get warmed up, then on with the rubber and into a very acceptable CBJ. Mish, cowgirl, and finished off with everyone’s favourite; Doggy. No clock watching; - in fact no mention at all of any time constraints, apart from a “from the management” style piece of card stuck on the wall. And rather surprisingly, she didn’t ask for any money upfront!? At the end, she asked for 40 bucks; was more than happy with that, so I gave her a 10 dollar tip. Once again, I’m sure the situation was helped because we were the only 2 guys in there; if we had been at the Seamen’s Club at that time of day, there would have been a never ending stream of girls with clients banging on the door wanting the room!

The girls came out to the bar with us afterwards and had another drink. Used the old trick of asking a guy outside for a cab. A “non” taxi is the cheapest way to get back from the clubs on this island. Even from the Casa Blanca, which is in the $15 region for a legitimate taxi, the locals are happy to take you back to town for 5 dollars.

Very happy with my first visit to Carolina’s. Will be back in St Maarten in a few weeks time; and will definitely be visiting there again!

Cheers Guys,

Tigerman

Zing23
11-26-05, 17:07
In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?Just a couple of days ago I answered that I had never heard of any, but looking in Friday's Daily Herald newspaper classifieds, I found this ad:

"Thai Massage. Body Body, very Sensual. private or at your home open 7/7. For
more information, call 0690 887311."

Should have known - St Martin has everything. This is a cellphone number on the French side. To reach from the USA, you dial 011 590 690 88 73 11. To reach from the Dutch side St Maarten, you dial 00 590 690 88 73 11.

Hopefully Bishop will try it and report back to us.

Zing23
11-28-05, 02:36
.. would it be a good idea if we could get a page on here catering for translations for some of the more, “useful” hobbyist expressions?
before my first visit to brothels of st maarten, i used a post by routard (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=349588&postcount=36) to get started with chica spanish. he writes:

latinas are sexy, sensual, passionate and sensitive. that's why the experience you will get with a chica depends largely of the chemistry you will be able to build up with her. speaking spanish is mandatory, else you will probably be disappointed. if you don't speak spanish, find hereafter a useful "phrasebook". i suggest you read his post for the guidelines to chica communication. also helpful were the comments on routard's post by grand polo. (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=382559&postcount=38) below is my version of routard's guide, with grand pollo's corrections and my simplifications. most of the chicas were from columbia, so i will make the examples below refer to columbia.

three tips that i can add to what they suggested:

1) at the start, concentrate on learning a few verbs and nouns. for example, if you want to take a shower with the girl, you can compose an entire sentence in spanish, or you can just say "ducha?" or "ducha, conmigo?" (shower with me?) just adding a question inflection to a single word can make an entire sentence! "bambinos?"

2) when you run out of things to say, or spanish words that you know, ask them what the spanish word is for something. the key is for the sentence to be totally in spanish, except for one english word. if you can point or gesture or pantomine the english word it works for even tough concepts. to ask "how do you say 'lips' in spanish?', you ask "como se dici en espanol 'lips'?". last week i learned that the bum is "cola", at least to mariana from cali.

3) get an inexpensive electronic translator with speech. the one i have does 6 languages and doesn't really pronounce the word very well, but it serves to remind you that spanish vowels have different sounds (i is e, e is a, a is ah, etc.) and to distinquish soft g from hard g, j is h etc. also, once you have made a connection with a chica, you can use the translator to keep communicating! really, it works. in fact, you can even print this posting out and point to phrases on it to communicate!

spanish = english:

hola! = hi!

como estas? = how are you?
...bien, gracias, y tu? = fine, and you?

como te llamas? = what is your name?
... me llamo zing. = my name is zing.

mucho gusto = pleased to meet you

de donde eres? = where are you from?
... america/canada/france/etc.

te gusta st martin? = do you like st maarten? they will answer 'si' or 'no' or "st maarten muy caldo" (st maarten is too hot compared to cali!)

quantos años tienes? = how old are you? (note: pronounce the n like it is 3 nns, with a "nasal n sound", since anos asks how many anuses do you have)

the spanish numbers are not that hard, but in the beginning just use your fingers (3 fingers, then 5 fingers for 35).

habla usted ingles? = do you speak english?

no hablo espanol = i don't speak spanish. but i usually say "poco espanol" which means "a little spanish".

(no) comprendo = i (don't) understand.

repitamelo, por favor = repeat. or just repita.

mas despacio = more slowly.

escribamelo = write it down.

como? = what?

say nice things about your chica:

piel muy suave = very soft skin (more complete is "usted tiene piel muy suave" = you have very soft skin). or just stroke her arm gently and murmer "suave, muy suave, ...".

ojos = eyes
labios = lips
tetas, mamas = breasts
pelo = hair
piel = skin
cola = bum
cuerpo = body
tetilla = nipple
belos = balls

bonita/bonito = pretty.
hermosa/hermoso = beautiful.

for example, cuerpo bonito. ojos hermosa. pelo hermoso.

bonita is used with feminine words (usually ending in a, as in 'chica', 'mamas'). bonito is for masculine words (usually end in o, such as ojos and cuerpo).

tus ojos me hacen loco = your eyes make me crazy. 'tus' is pronounced 'chu' and there is a soft c in hacen, like hacienda.

besos = kisses. muchos besos = many kisses.
besos en los labios? = kisses on the lips
beso con lengua? = kisses with tonque

learn to say you like/want something: me gusta tu sonrisa = i like your smile.

baile? = dance?

beber? = drink?

use her name in a few sentences:

valentina [es] muy hermosa = valentina is very beautiful.

valentina mas atractiva [aqui] = valentine is the most sexy [here]

ask about her family:

padres en columbia? = parents in columbia? more complete is "tus padres viven en columbia?" = are your parents in colombia? singular padre is father, madre is mother.

bambinos? children? more complete is "tienes hijos?" or "tienes bambinos?"

bambinos años? = how old are your children? i usually also hold out my hand to indicate the possible height of the child.

hermanas? = sisters? more complete is "tienes hermanos y hermanas?" = do you have brothers and sisters?

no es facil trabajar aqui con tus bambinos en colombia = it is not easy working here and having her children there:

she will ask if you want to go for a massage or "fucky fucky". gfe = no quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer amor. = not just a quick fuck, i want romance. corny, but cute. i have found it difficult to negotiate what is included - but if something is a deal breaker for you, be sure to ask for it. me gusta chuparme sin condom = i like sucking without a condom.

cuanto cuesta? = how much? most chicas will know the english words for fifty dollars, forty dollars, thirty dollars,... or just offer thirty dollars yourself = treinta dollares?

some useful words in the room:

fabuloso = fabulous (when she is naked!)

delicioso = delightful

caliente!! = hot!!

una hora? = one hour? the girl may sometimes try to upsell you (one hour is more money). i now say "no gracias" and find that a good daty can extend the session usually, then offer a larger tip.

ducha = shower. ducha conmigo = shower with me.

mas suave = softer

mas duro = harder

apretar = squeeze

siente bien? = feels good?

chuparme = suck. chuparme sin condom = suck without a condom.

perrito = doggy style.

terminar = come/climax.

propina = tip.

also learn a few standard phrases:

por favor = please.

muchas gracias = many thanks.

buenas tardes = good afternoon.

adios = goodbye.

quizás = perhaps. quiza - maybe. pero = but.

hasta luego (see you later) soft g

perdon = sorry.

fatigue = tired.

at the end, the best providers will offer a massage. "si". as you relax, ask for "massage de mamas", i.e., massage me with your tits. after that, "ducha" for a shower!

if you enjoyed the session (or the next session on the second day) and you have the free time, ask her if she wants to have lunch at the beach: la playa para almorzar? if you want to arrange another session, número de teléfono? = your telephone number?

final tip: if there was something you wanted to communicate, but couldn't, go to freetranslation.com (http://www.freetranslation.com) and translate it from english into spanish for the next time! this web site is really good.

good luck. i wrote this after working on spanish for less than 8 weeks. i wanted to get it down while i was still a novice. no doubt i have some errors and typos and important omissions. just pm them to me and i will update the post as a reference.

- zing

Tigerman
11-30-05, 07:43
Hi all!

Just a quick note to thank Zing23 for his prompt and very useful reply!

Cheers,

Tigerman

Zing23
12-04-05, 16:07
Since I started visiting the brothels in Sept, I have been trying to follow the advice on this forum. Learn Spanish, talk to the Chicas, create some small relationship, and leverage that into a satisfying session. As I learned to follow these rules and say no to non-responsive chicas, my sessions got a lot better.

Yesterday I was in Seamans and there were almost no customers, because no cruise ships were in port. The chicas were mainly busy putting up Christmas dectorations. I was just going to take a drink and look around when Isobella approached me.

Thin (flaquita), pretty face, enhanced breasts, from Cancun Mexico (a hurricane refugee I guess). I tried all my Chica Spanish on her and never really got a conversation going. In fact, she answered all my simple Spanish with English! She just rubbed up against me and sat in my lap. She was sexy, but based on what I learned on this forum, I thouight the session with her would be disappointing.

Since I had 30 minutes and $40 to spare, I let her take me to the room anyway. Undressed she was still sexy, but her breasts were over-enhanced - in my opinion - she had no nipples left. she would not allow kissing on the lips, or BBBJ or DFK. Her service was a quick CBJ, and a few positions. No carresses, no kisses, no massage. I guess if you are 21 with raging hormones this would work for you, but for older me it was not exciting. After 20 minutes, I told her I wasn't going to come. Note: Based on an unscientific sample of 2 chicas, I now consider knowledge of English a bad indicator. It shows more knowledge of American sexual expecations than is healthy!

Science experiment completed: theories of the ISG board members validated.

If you don't feel any connection and feedback with the chica, don't do the session.

PogoStick
12-05-05, 02:19
I'm currently on St Maarten.

Went to Seamans the other day for the first time in a while. (I usually go to CasaBlanca)

There wasn't much action and after a quick beer I was about to leave when a rather pretty and TALL chica approached me. I usually like very petite spinners with small tops, but there was something about her that I just had to give her a try.

We head to her room and undressed. She was HOT! She gets right down to a CBJ with no prelude. Gets me off in just a short time. So I figure I just got ripped off by a good fast sucker and it was over.

But instead, she gives me one of the best massages I've ever had, then gets in bed with me and snuggles for a while. Next thing I know she is playing with the little stick which led to a great BBBJ and CFS that lasted quite a whille.

She turned it into a good GFE Her name is Chyna and she is here for another 2 months.

Last night I cruised Defiance and Casa Blanca. Defience was pretty slow, but had some very fine chicas. It was still early so I headed up to Casablanca to check the scene there. I ran into a chica I did last month and we partied for a while. Good, but nothing special.

I then decided to check out Carolinas. It was my first time there. I had driven by a few times before, but didn't like the vibes. But after some good posts here I had to try it.

By now it was around midnite. I find my way into the bar and it is packed. Maybe 75 guys and about a dozen girls. I was about to leave, when a hand slides down the back of my pants and gives my ass a squeeze. I turn around and there stands a black haired beauty. She had to be one of the most beautiful chicas I have ever seen in a casa. Her beauty is real. Girl next door type and not the heavy makeup look like a Ho style.

I take her to her room and when she undressed she went from and 8+ to a 9+. Nice soft milk chocolate skin, dark large nipples and an ass that brings tears to your eyes. I stayed in that room with her for 3 hours. We worked on language. She spoke almost no English, which exceeds my Spanish skills. We both ended up a bit more fluent in each others languages. This girl is very intellegent. Hard to believe, but this GFE was even better thab Chyna at Seamans. 3 shots on goal, 3 hours of enjoyable company for ony $. 40. She has only been here for a week so I will definitely see her on my next couple trips.

Next time I promised her a weekend with me in my hotel. At first she wanted $3 for a single TLN, but I got her down to $2 for 3 days/2 nights. I did promise her a weekend of fun. Snorkling, beaches, casinos, good food etc. It will cost a bit for the bar fine ($. 4 per night) but it will be a weekend to remember.

If I could ever fall for a chica, she would be the one.

Hmmmm. I think I'll head over there now!

Pogo

Zing23
12-06-05, 14:16
I'm currently on St Maarten ...
PogoThanks for the report. It captures the excitement that is St Maarten. There must be at least 150 chicas working in the various places on a good week. You never know what is going to show up.

PogoStick
12-10-05, 16:58
Does anyone have the address for Carolina's in St. Maarten???I don't have the address, but will try to describe how to get there.

From downtown, take the little road that goes to the University and Stadium. It quickly becomes a rough dirt road. After a while you will see Petite Chateau on your left. Keep going, around a curve to the left until you get to the entrance to the landfill. The road becomes paved at this point. Turn right and after aboyt a half mile you will see 2 bars on either side of the road. The one one the left is Crystals and the right is Carolinas.

Or head towards Seamans from downtown. Just before Seamans you'll see a road with a sign on your left pointing to St Maarten Park. Turn left on that road and soon you'll see the New Era Store (small convienience/grocery) Turn let on the road just past the store and you'll see the two bars about 2 blocks down.

Good luck and happy mongering!

Pogo

Zing23
12-15-05, 12:57
Went back to Carolina yesterday around 12:30pm. About 15 men and 25 chicas. I was looking for a chica from Cali called Valentina for a repeat (see reports below), since Anji had left for Curacao.

Lots of cute chicas available, but I was determined to wait for the right one this time! Got a drink from the bar, then spotted 2 chicas sitting against the far wall with a spare chair. Smiled and went to sit down. Discovered that this is a good location for watching the club - next to the door to the restaurant, some sun light comes in and allows you to see everyone in the club!

The first chica was brown haired, petite, slim, but curvy, with nice breasts and a beautiful delicate face. The second chica was taller, blond, more built, not as beautiful. After the obligatory hola-como estas, but before where-are-you-from and what-is-your name, they immediately asked me if I wanted two girls. This has happened to me before in St Maarten, so must be a common service. As I am novice mongerer and still getting the hang of P4P, I haven't partaken yet.

I said thank you, but I was looking for a chica, a particular chica. The slim one says, oh you are selective-good. I reply, I am looking for a chica named Valentina. They both stare at me with mouths dropped open!

It turns out that there were 3 Valentinas in the club, and they were TWO of THEM! They pointed out the 3rd Valentina across the room, wrapped around a client at the bar.

Since "my Valentina" was occupied and this Valentina-confusion allowed for a good conversation, I eventually went to the room with the slim Valentina from Bogata.

Excellent session. Once undressed it turned out that the curvy breasts that appeared enhanced in the club on such a slim girl, were actually quite natural and only helped by a push-up bra. This was a nice surprise for me as I prefer tetas naturales.

Unrushed. Lots of kisses and embraces and play. Long DATY at her request, BBBJ, Covered FS in 3 positions, nice GFE except for resistance to DFK. No discussion of money, I just paid the standard $40 and added a large tip separately.

Ran into the original Valentina in the restaurant, tried to get her number, but she is going back to Columbia for Christmas on Monday. Told Valentina #3 that I would see her next time.

Zing23
12-20-05, 13:06
Another visit to Carolinas in St Maarten.

The bartender told me that in order to take a chica out of the club, you must pay a $35 bar fine. I don't know if this covers all night, but I suspect that it does (the bar only charges $3 to go to the room with a chica).

Another thing I learned is that the chicas must have regular medical tests, since it happened while I was there. They must turn in the doctors ok report to the house. I will find out how often and thorough these tests are next time, but knowing medical care in the caribbean, I wouldn't expect them to be too professional.

Regarding pogostick's "black haired beauty" in this post (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414083&postcount=89), her name is Viviana (pronounced bee-bee-an- a, with a pronounced as in "saw"). She is from Cali and is very sweet, if you treat her nicely. Highly recommended.

PogoStick
12-21-05, 14:27
Another visit to Carolinas in St Maarten.

The bartender told me that in order to take a chica out of the club, you must pay a $35 bar fine. I don't know if this covers all night, but I suspect that it does (the bar only charges $3 to go to the room with a chica).

Another thing I learned is that the chicas must have regular medical tests, since it happened while I was there. They must turn in the doctors ok report to the house. I will find out how often and thorough these tests are next time, but knowing medical care in the caribbean, I wouldn't expect them to be too professional.

Regarding pogostick's "black haired beauty" in this post (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414083&postcount=89), her name is Viviana (pronounced bee-bee-an- a, with a pronounced as in "saw"). She is from Cali and is very sweet, if you treat her nicely. Highly recommended.Yep, Viviana is her name. She is definately a sweety.

Actually, the medical system on SXM is very good. There will be a medical school opening in the next year or two that should be the best in the Caribbean.

My last day in Aruba I met a real beauty from Bogota at the Baranca Bar. I'll upload a picture when I get home.

In Curacao now but due to late night dinners with clients I haven't had a chance to hit Campo. Hopefully I will before I leave.

Pogo

Supposed
12-22-05, 01:26
I stayed in Phillipsburgh. Following Routard’s excellent direction in this post http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50, I walked. Walked past Le Petit Chateau on towards Carolina. I am a walker, so did not think the walk was any big deal.

Since this was afternoon, there were about 7 girls and about 5 guys. Started talking to one chic, no Spanish on my part and no English on her part. Anyway, she introduced herself very well, my touching me in all the right places and whispering sweet nothings. Bought her a drink, 4 dollars. And after a while of fondling each other went to her room. Standard CBJ, and FS in all different positions, i.e. Missionary, Doggy, Cowboy etc.. After the deed was done, we cuddled for a couple of minutes and then she gave me a soft back massage. All for $40.00. Nice girl, wish I could remember her name.

Started walking back towards Phillipsburgh when I had another itch, so stopped in at Le Petit Chateau. While there bought a girl from Columbia a drink, on herequest. You could tell none of the girls were of the quality of Carolina’s, including the Colombian girl. But this girl also touched me in the right places and after a while left me to be with her friend. I went in the back where the rooms are and this girl and friend were going to their room, they said $20 a piece. Seemed an attractive offer but did not participate. Interesting note. While there I ran into a guy who works at Club 51 / 50 in Phillipsburgh. I had gone there the night before to check it out while walking all over Phillipsburgh at night looking for local bars, no problems walking at night. Anyway this guy , a local, said that even he would not go to this place at night because there were gangster types hanging around at night. Beware.

Got a Gypsy cab to Seaman’s, alright, tired of walking at this point. The chick I hooked up with at Seaman’s also touched me and caressed me in all the right places. I am surprised nobody had mentioned this bit of action in prior reports. Anyway, ended up with a standard CBJ and full service for the standard $40.00. Asked me for a propina of $2.00, which I gladly gave. Done for the day – this was all between about 3:00pm and 6:00pm.

Went to Carolina’s on the next day around 7:00pm. No girls there and Bartender said the girls come out 8:00pm. Went walking, there is a Colombian restaurant, a Chinese restaurant and such in the general area near Seaman’s. Had Chinese food and went back to Carolinas. This time I chose a tall blond, or actually she chose me and she spoke good English. Again, all that caressing of the member. She gave a BBBJ, then covered FS and then finished off with CBJ. All for the standard $40.00.

Next day went to looking for action around 6:00pm. This time took a cab from Phillipsbugh to Seaman’s. No one there. Next stop was defiance, there were bunch of girls there but did not get the vibe. This place is bigger and nicer that either Carolina’s or Seaman’s. Went onto Casa Blanca which is the biggest, and the great thing about before 8:00pm was all the lights were on and you can really check out the chcias. As someone mentioned, mostly Domincan girls. One little spinner caught my attention and she caught the attention I was paying her and came over. Again, all that caressing while I was having my drink and bought her a drink. Standard CBJ and FS, but this was more expensive as it was $45.00 and it was paid to the barmaid.

Later that night, went to Seaman’s and the girl from the first day came over and started paying immediate attention and so settled on her. Same deal, CBJ and FS.

Overall, I found the girls to do what you wanted them do without hesitation, I never asked for BBBJ, it was volunteered one time.

Let me say a little more on the subject of caressing at the bar. They all did that for me, basically playing with my member or giving me a lap dance / grinding while I was having a drink and until they finished their drink. So, you can get a lot of pre action, action, for 15 to 20 minutes. I noticed that when I ordered a second drink, they did not participate and the caressing also sort of stopped. So, I think caressing is a one drink thing. Also, all this caressing was voluntary and initiated by them, it was not as if I asked them to. Since this part does not seem to be covered in the other posts, I thought I would add this little tidbit. The lovely think about the caressing is you are already leaking and have gotten over the initial burst of excitement which I noticed tended to prolong the action in the room. Anyway, that was my experience.

Next time I will check out Defiance and Casa Blanca more as they had the better atmosphere to relax in, larger facility with more room to walk around. Also, the better times to go would be early afternoon to 5 - 6pm or after 8:00pm. At night they pretty themselves up.

Routard
12-26-05, 18:43
Let me say a little more on the subject of caressing at the bar. They all did that for me, basically playing with my member or giving me a lap dance / grinding while I was having a drink and until they finished their drink. So, you can get a lot of pre action, action, for 15 to 20 minutes. I noticed that when I ordered a second drink, they did not participate and the caressing also sort of stopped. So, I think caressing is a one drink thing. Also, all this caressing was voluntary and initiated by them, it was not as if I asked them to. Since this part does not seem to be covered in the other posts, I thought I would add this little tidbit.

Very nice report. Interesting is to see how others experience it based on expectations from previous reports and highlighting the unexpected parts.
Yes, as you mentionned, the girls get a small fee from the drinks you buy to them, which is the way to pay for their company and for the pre-action. Of course, pre-action is also her selling technique. But my recommendation is to check during that time through caressing how her body really is shapped, in order to avoid any disappointment once in the room. I love latinas, but I know also their most frequent problem: fat...

PogoStick
12-28-05, 02:53
[QUOTE=Supposed]Let me say a little more on the subject of caressing at the bar. They all did that for me, basically playing with my member or giving me a lap dance / grinding while I was having a drink and until they finished their drink. So, you can get a lot of pre action, action, for 15 to 20 minutes. I noticed that when I ordered a second drink, they did not participate and the caressing also sort of stopped. So, I think caressing is a one drink thing. Also, all this caressing was voluntary and initiated by them, it was not as if I asked them to. Since this part does not seem to be covered in the other posts, I thought I would add this little tidbit. The lovely think about the caressing is you are already leaking and have gotten over the initial burst of excitement which I noticed tended to prolong the action in the room. Anyway, that was my experience.[QUOTE]Great report. Thanks for bringing this subject up.

I guess those of us that regularly monger in the Dutch islands take the foreplay for granted. It is a great time to get to know the girl a bit and check out how she feels. If you just grab the front edge of their bra or panties they will almost immediatly show you what they have to offer. I always grab a little snatch to see how it feels as I like either fresh shaved or a bit of soft down. If I find stubble I'm on to the next girl.

This is also the time to start building a GFE. A little talking, a little touching, a little dancing go a long way towards having a very good time. Do NOT let them order a ladydrink. It's usually just a small shot of wine. Instead, order them a Heinekin. It takes them much longer to drink and fills them up so they don't keep ordering more.

The only thing the girls like more than salsa dancing is teaching mongers how to salsa. Even if you can dance well...let them teach you. It usually ends up with a lot of laughing and fun and she feels more like a girlfriend instead of a puta. It is good for her self esteem and guarantees an enjoyable, unrushed GFE when you get her to her room.

The foreplay is one of the best parts of mongering in St Martin. You can have a bit of fun with lots of different girls in several bars for a very small price and then choose who you really want to spend some "quality time" with. I have even seen a few mongers shoot thier load in their pants right at the bar or on the dance floor for the price of a drink.

Pogo

Zing23
12-29-05, 12:02
The chick I hooked up with at Seaman’s also touched me and caressed me in all the right places. I am surprised nobody had mentioned this bit of action in prior reports.

Great report. One thing I have noticed about the caressing is that it has caused me to develop a bit more self control. The aggressive chicas will go really far in arousing you - such as massaging your member with their buns while doing a salsa dance. Often found myself in the room with a chica that I really wasn't highly attracted to, had not even talked to, and ended up with a mechanical and unsatisfying session. Now after 4 months of mongering in St Maarten, I accept the caressing for a bit, but don't let her do it too long if I am determined that this is not the chica for me.

My last visit to Seaman's a small Dominicana approached me at the bar and we had a nice chat. I was on a mission to find a specific chica, and this one was not a substitute. I had on shorts with no underwear. Her touches started on the outside, but as soon as she felt a response she slid her hand up my pants and fondled me. At this point, she tried to close the deal, and I said no thank you, not today, i am looking for a particular chica named alejandre. (you can say this in baby spanish quite easily: "no, por favor, hoy me gusta chica particular. Alejandre de Bogota?").

She tried to tell me that Alejandre was out of the club shopping, but as I turned to leave, I ran into Alejandre, who had been watching me resist the little Dominicana! Since I was already hard, I hugged Alejandre tight, gave her a kiss on each cheek and pulled her onto my lap on a chair. By the way, I had previously only known her for 15 minutes during an earlier bar conversation from a couple of weeks before.

Alejandre is highly recommended - beautful, playful, curvy, and she has a solo room. no knocks on the door! YMMV (I used my chica spanish for beginners on her. (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=412163&postcount=86)) She is the standard Columbiana height, which is short, natural largish breasts that she can shake without moving her body, long full hair with highlights.

Supposed
12-30-05, 04:16
Routard, Pogostick, Zing23,

Thanks for the compliments on the report. I am a very infrequent monger and was wondering how my report would be perceived. This is the type of acclaim that may actually make my mongering and reporting life more frequent. Also, thanks for the extra tips, i.e. Salsa and so on. I will most definitely have St. Maarten on my short list of places to visit in the near future again. I think this is the best Caribbean Island, offering good mongering (first and foremost), great beaches, gambling, bars and awesome restaurants.

I need to learn to remember the names and appearance of girls to be more informative to my fellow mongers.

Sexcruiser06
12-30-05, 06:35
Will be visiting St. Martin as part of a cruise with the girlfriend. We were thinking of stopping into Seamans for a threesome. Can anyone let us know if this is available at this club, and if so, what we are looking at for expense and time in the room?

Thanks!!

Zing23
12-31-05, 12:51
Will be visiting St. Martin as part of a cruise with the girlfriend. We were thinking of stopping into Seamans for a threesome. Can anyone let us know if this is available at this club, and if so, what we are looking at for expense and time in the room?

Thanks!!

yes it is available. i have seen couples go in at seamans myself. if the two of you stand at the bar in carolina or seamans, the girls that are interested in providing a threesome will come up to you i am sure. the price is no doubt negotiable, but I would just offer the standard $40 (cuarenta dollars) and if they ask for $60 (sesenta), settle on $50 (cincuenta).

good luck and give us a report.

-zing

Sexcruiser06
01-02-06, 04:19
yes it is available. i have seen couples go in at seamans myself. if the two of you stand at the bar in carolina or seamans, the girls that are interested in providing a threesome will come up to you i am sure. the price is no doubt negotiable, but I would just offer the standard $40 (cuarenta dollars) and if they ask for $60 (sesenta), settle on $50 (cincuenta).

good luck and give us a report.

-zingWe both greatly appreciate your response. Am I reading correctly in this thread that the standard time in the room is 20 min for $40? Thanks!

Zing23
01-03-06, 11:36
We both greatly appreciate your response. Am I reading correctly in this thread that the standard time in the room is 20 min for $40? Thanks!

the "standard time" for $40 is somewhat flexible, but if you go over 30 minutes some small extra fees will be incurred. For example, at Carolina you pay $3 to use the room for about 25 minutes, plus time to shower, cleanup, etc. If you stay for an hour, the bar expects another $3. The girl is usually happy with another $30. At Seamans the girl pays for the room herself by the day and hopefully earns that back from the clients. My last visit I stayed one hour with a chica at Carolina and another stay for an hour with a chica at Seamans. I paid each $70 and they were happy.

BTW. The $40 "standard" is also negotiable - when I first started visiting the brothels I experimented with offering $30 and was quite often accepted, especially if there was only 1 cruise ship in the harbor!

Zing23
01-06-06, 14:26
Had a nice 2 hour session with Alejandre (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420013&postcount=99) at Seamans - room 20.

I mentioned that I had come by at 11am and there were no chicas in the bar, so I went elsewhere for my first session. She told me that during the day time if you want to visit a particular chica and you know her room number, you can just walk back to the rooms and knock on the door. (At night when it is busier, they have a guard on the entrance and you must go with a chica). I have walked back to rooms during the day at Defiance also (pronounced "dee-fi-ya" by the chicas). And at Carolina the door to the "hotel" is now always open during the day - it used by locked with a numeric keypad before.

Spanish lesson for today: cuarto = room. noches = night.

Jan Chris
01-06-06, 21:57
Hello mongers,

I'd like to stay in a girl friendly hotel.

On the list given by the Routard, Captain Oliver seems to be rather cheap followed by Holland House.

Do you know whether they allow girls?

In any case, do you have an advice?

Infinity
01-07-06, 17:32
Zing23,

Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.

Sexcruiser06
01-07-06, 21:40
Had a nice 2 hour session with Alejandre (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420013&postcount=99) at Seamans - room 20.

I mentioned that I had come by at 11am and there were no chicas in the bar, so I went elsewhere for my first session. She told me that during the day time if you want to visit a particular chica and you know her room number, you can just walk back to the rooms and knock on the door. (At night when it is busier, they have a guard on the entrance and you must go with a chica). I have walked back to rooms during the day at Defiance also (pronounced "dee-fi-ya" by the chicas). And at Carolina the door to the "hotel" is now always open during the day - it used by locked with a numeric keypad before.

Spanish lesson for today: cuarto = room. noches = night.Just wanted to add our thanks for your help on this. We are looking forward to a fun time!

Zing23
01-08-06, 10:46
Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.
I have never heard of Selina's, but will look around. What do you think it is?

BTW. Alejandre at Seamans told me that the filipino and chinese crew from the cruise ships only want to pay $30 (they are on a budget), but then they ask for "amor", not just "fucky fucky".

The idea of asking for amor to get GFE comes right from this thread of the ISG. Her response: if you insist on negotiating the chica down to her bottom price, don't expect a GFE with BBBJ that goes over the standard 20-25 minute time limit.

Do the cruise ships have internet access for the crew? Are they reading ISG to prepare for their visits to St Maarten?

-zing

Chris H
01-08-06, 19:18
Most cruise ships do have internet, so I would not be surpised if they do prepare theirselves for the girls in all the islands that they visit. that is how I knew what to expect in St.maarten myself.

Does anyone have any info on renting condos or apartments for a couple of days on the island? Let me know if you know anything that can help.

Chris H

PogoStick
01-09-06, 14:23
Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.Selina bills itself as a swingers club. Recently a group in St Maarten has been having a few themed parties there. You can usually find out about the parties on orientbeach.com personals forum.

I have been there once. I had contacted them about parties and was told that they could arrange a 1 on 1 party for me for $150 all inclusive. It includes a companion, drinks and you can spend the night (until 6am). I was told that the companion was totally voluntary and expected no tip. The $150 was for the house and drinks.

I was picked up at my hotel (travel inn in Simpson Bay) and taken to a beautiful villa not far from the hotel. It had an awesome view. There I met my date for the evening, a dark skinned girl from Santo Domingo. She was perfectly fluent in english.

She was dressed in a sexy evening dress. We had a bottle of good french red wine and talked and danced for a bit. Then we retired to the bedroom. She was quite lovely and VERY enthusiastic. There were toys available as well as massage oils, condoms etc.

We played and napped all night long. Mulitple shots on goal and I came in all possible orifices. Bareback at all times except for the backdoor fun. In the morning she made coffee and breakfast and then I got a ride back to the hotel.

Overall it was a very good experience. The girl was about 7 on looks, 9 on body and 10 on enthusiasm. It was really more like a good first date than anything else. No tip was asked for and I feel she would have been insulted had I offered.

I will probably try it again at some point but lately my focus has been on cruising the casas and getting 4 girls for the same prices as Selinas. I like the variety and the hunt. But Selinas was certainly worth the money.

pogo

Routard
01-09-06, 14:31
Dear sailors and other silent readers,

It is OK to use my tricks, but then please follow my advice completely:



If she uses any word like "fucky...fucky", just correct her and reply you want GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el amor". This is my best advise. Never bargain the price, it is an offense to her, but instead ask for the best service.

Zing23
01-09-06, 17:21
Continuing the saga of the three Valentinas (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=416792&postcount=93) at Carolina brothel: you will recall that I had a session with the 2nd of 3 chicas named Valentina when I couldn't repeat with #1.

Well in subsequent visits I got enamored of Viviana and Valentina #2 got mad at me. But I always talked to Valentina #3 and started to appreciate her more and more. Last visit, as I arrived Viviana was going off in a big SUV with some guys and another chica, so I ended up with Valetina #3 (from Bogota like #2).

Valentina is not a typical latina: taller, long blonde hair, natural I think since her eyebrows are pale blond and her skin is pale as well. Incredible natural breasts. Very deep and active DFK. Long DATY and BBBJ. Then she asks, do you want me to **** you or you to **** me? I chose to hop aboard and she was a very exciting and active partner.

Actually, she was the best session of the 3 valentinas. I think there is a lesson here somewhere.

-zing

Bachlur
01-14-06, 04:56
Since this is my first written entry, I figured I should say that I'm a monger wannabe. Every one of you appears to know how this game works, and you each appear to play it very well. I recently inherited a very luxurious villa near Oyster Pond. I first visited St Maarten at the end of September 2005 when my relative died, and I acquired the villa. I went out looking for girls on the first night, hooked up, and regrettably ended up spending the entire week with the first girl that approached me at the Seaman's Club ....but I wanted so much more. We spent the entire week just pounding-away. I really wanted to cruise over to Casa Blanca, but the people in the parking lot looked me up and down like predators, which was reason enough for me to get back in my car and look elsewhere. I was pissed off too because I heard that Casa was the shit. I guess what it comes down to are several questions:

-Do I have to worry about guys eyeballing me and my car when I pull-up?

-How do I say no to one chica, then leave with her friend 5 minutes later without guilt or drama occurring?

-What is the average price for taking one home for an all-nighter?.....and is this practice allowed at all the clubs?

-Can you take 2 girls home?

-I want at least one of you to rank your top-3 clubs, and give explanations.

I plan on returning to the island in April and can't wait, but this time I wanna go back with a game-plan.

As far as the blood testing goes, at least at the Seaman's club, they test every Friday morning, and they supposedly test for EVERYTHING.

Anyway, I hope to be a more frequent contributor to this forum, and I hope to learn more from all of you.

FYI: An important piece of advice for anyone interested in visiting these places (especially if you take her back to your room): be respectful and act like a gentleman. They aren't used to being treated like a lady, and I can guarantee you that it will make all the difference in how well she serves you. Passion triggers greater sex than any amount of money ever could.

Infinity
01-15-06, 20:20
This post is slightly off topic – but I felt all of you were best prepared to answer it.

We have discussed the majority of the clubs on St. Maarten recently. Does anyone know how one would go about arranging for a gal – assumidly from Colombia, DR, or Venezuela to live with you for a month? I would be interested in a live in ‘maid’.

I know. I’m one of those guys that always eats all of his peas before he moves to the next thing on the plate – rather than sampling a little of everything.

On another note – I seem to fall for the Venezuelan women that I meet in St. Maarten. The majority seem to be from Cali, Colombia or Punta Cana, DR lately. Anyone know of any working Venezuelan girls at the moment?

I wanted to thank Pogostick for replying. I tossed an email to Selinas and their quoted price for a night was up to $250. Probably the normal busy season price boost as the Maho seems to have doubled its rates as well. Pogostick were you able to select the girl you were seeing – or have any input in your selection?

Based off of Zing23s report I met up with Viviana at Carolinas. She is a tall creamy coffee colored skin girl with long luxurious black hair. She had a quick smile and quickly singled me out once I entered. I was not surprised when she introduced herself as Viviana. A very enjoyable girl to have met.

I

Scott D
01-15-06, 21:00
I was previously at a brothel on the dutch side as i followed some friends. However, i am unsure of the name of the place because i didn't see any signs upon entering, so i am asking you guys for some help!!! Here's the description. It is on the same road as the Seaman's club,(left side of road) just north of it though. This place is on the right side with a dirt parking lot on the left side of the road. There are several stairs to enter the place and when inside, the bar is rather tall and wide, you can barely reach over it. There is also a pool table in a separate room. The rooms for the girls are outside of the actual bar and up more stairs behind a gated door. A man is standing there with keys. The building looked painted white. The bathroom for the bar is outside of the club with a big metal door. Any Help PLEASE?

Scott D
01-16-06, 02:01
I was previously in St. Maarten on vacation with a few friends. However, we attended a brothel and I am unsure what the name of the place was. I was wondering if you guys can help me? We went there late at night with another group of people whom we followed. Here is the description of the place:

This place is on the same road as Seaman's Club. If you are driving north towards Oyster Bay, the Seaman's club is on the left. This place that I am referreing to is on the right side of the road with a dirt parking lot on the left side. I would say it is just about on the border between the dutch and french side. The building looked painted white. When you enter the place there are a lot of steps to go up into the bar and the place looked relatively old and beat up. Once inside, there is a small bar to order drinks which is relatively tall and wide. It makes it kind of hard to order drinks. There is also another room with a pool table. The girls take you outside of the bar and up a few more steps where there is a guy with keys standing in front of a gated entry. Any help would be appreciated?

Thanks

Zing23
01-16-06, 12:44
-Do I have to worry about guys eyeballing me and my car when I pull-up?
The later at night and the younger and more gang-like the guys, the more to worry about. Casa Blanca is the club that gets in the newspaper with occassional crime problems. Petite Chateau could probably have a rough crowd at night also, although I have only been there during the day time and had a fine time. During the day time, nothing to worry about at any of the clubs.

-How do I say no to one chica, then leave with her friend 5 minutes later without guilt or drama occurring?
As you discovered, being a gentleman helps a lot. Read my posting chica spanish for beginners (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=412163&postcount=86) and the ones it links to, and learn to say "no, por favor". I just started this hobby in Sept 2005, so you can go back and read all of my posts in this thread to see what I learned. Saying no thanks was the hardest. There is never any drama when you say no - tell her she is very beautiful, but you are looking for a particular chica (tu es muy hermosa, pero me gusta chica particular).

The part I am working on now is how to say no to the girl the next day, after a good session with her the day before. If you are a good customer: clean, attentive to her, not rough, tip well, then she will try to claim you as her own and act jealous if you go with other chicas. It is very hard to tell this apparently adoring creature that you prefer to sample a new chica today. I try to keep in mind that she will be adoring another guy right after me!

In the beginning, I just used the coward's approach: I went to a different brothel (this is not foolproof, because there is a chica tom-tom between the clubs). I have recently tried laughing at the first sign of possessiveness and saying that I am a bad boy who cannot resist a new chica! Perhaps some other members can suggest other ideas. In any case, always aknowledge the chicas that you know with a kiss on the cheek (unless they are working on a client), even if you are going with another.


-What is the average price for taking one home for an all-nighter?.....and is this practice allowed at all the clubs?
Don't know. At Carolina there is a bar fine to pay the bartender (I think it is $35, but ask the bartender), then you negotiate with the girl. She will ask for $200, but that is too much. Especially if you have a luxury villa and treat her right. I would offer $80 to the girl and settle for $100-$120. Keep in mind that they are stuck in their little room at the brothel with no TV and no break from their job for 3 months. You have a luxury bathroom to offer, a comfortable bed, a nice breakfast, swimming pool or beach, sunshine, etc. She is giving up client income for the night, but on a week night, that may not be too many $.
-Can you take 2 girls home?
Of course, this is St Maarten! But I haven't tried it. I might worry about managing two chicas for an entire night. Why not try 2 chicas at the club first.

-I want at least one of you to rank your top-3 clubs, and give explanations.
The answer to this question is in this thread if you read all the postings, but here is my personal summary. Keep in mind that I visit only during the day time, with rare exceptions:

#1. Carolina. Beautiful sexy girls from Columbia. The fewest hard-core aggresive clock watchers here. Also, because it is not as popular with the cruise ship crews (yet) and some girls do not share rooms (this month!), the sessions are less rushed. Almost no black girls since Sept.

#2. Seamans. Beautiful sexy girls from Columbia, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Mexico and perhaps elsewhere. Time pressure when there are many cruise ships in the harbor. A few black girls.

#3. Defiance. Some beautiful sexy girls from Dominican Republic and Columbia. More black girls from both countries, one of whom has been my best find so far. No cruise crew. Fewer tourists.

FYI: An important piece of advice for anyone interested in visiting these places (especially if you take her back to your room): be respectful and act like a gentleman. They aren't used to being treated like a lady, and I can guarantee you that it will make all the difference in how well she serves you. Passion triggers greater sex than any amount of money ever could.
I agree with this 100%. The chicas are far from home, have a shitty job, and have to put up with some foul, aggressive, mean clients! Show some respect, try to speak Spanish no matter how limited, tell them how beautiful they are, and how beautiful their mother must be! You will be well rewarded.

-zing

Routard
01-16-06, 16:47
Bachlur,

I agree 100% about Zinc's answers, including the brothels top 3. I simply would have given a more positieve answer about security issues, but I guess security perception is a personal matter.

I have been many times to the brothels on night time, I have never noticed any agressive attitude whatsoever apart from some girls in Casa Blanca who are sometimes too pushy. The bad guys you have noticed at the entrance where most probably simply taxi drivers waiting for customers, or they may have been the bouncers, as Casa Blanca indeed has some security guards sometimes. Why else would somebody wait outside as entrance is free?

Anyway, if you are sensitive about security issues, just skip Casa Blanca as it is the roughest brothel of Sint Maarten. Carolina is indeed the safest and the most relaxed of all, but Seamen's too, even if it is more crowded.

Just PM when you will be back in Sint Maarten.

Zing23
01-16-06, 21:31
This place is on the same road as Seaman's Club. If you are driving north towards Oyster Bay, the Seaman's club is on the left. This place that I am referreing to is on the right side of the road with a dirt parking lot on the left side. I would say it is just about on the border between the dutch and french side. The building looked painted white. When you enter the place there are a lot of steps to go up into the bar and the place looked relatively old and beat up. Once inside, there is a small bar to order drinks which is relatively tall and wide. It makes it kind of hard to order drinks. There is also another room with a pool table. The girls take you outside of the bar and up a few more steps where there is a guy with keys standing in front of a gated entry. Any help would be appreciated?Thanks

Most of your description matches Casa Blanca. Only thing wrong is that they have a big bar (perhaps it has been renovated since you were there). All the rest of your description is Casa Blanca exactly.

-zing

Zing23
01-16-06, 21:38
We have discussed the majority of the clubs on St. Maarten recently. Does anyone know how one would go about arranging for a gal – assumidly from Colombia, DR, or Venezuela to live with you for a month? I would be interested in a live in ‘maid’.


The problem is immigration. The girl must have a visa to work in St Maarten. Without the visa, she cannot easily get into St Maarten from South America. I have talked to one girl who worked at 3 different brothels on her one visa, but had to go back home after 3 months. Another girl I met was so fed up with working at the brothel that she ran away to the French side and lived illegally with a guy she had met (not a good idea, since immigration has her passport and will require a bribe to give it back to her).

I would ask at one of the brothels if they could help you arrange what you want, for a fee. It would have to be with the manager, not just the bartender.



On another note – I seem to fall for the Venezuelan women that I meet in St. Maarten. The majority seem to be from Cali, Colombia or Punta Cana, DR lately. Anyone know of any working Venezuelan girls at the moment?


Try Seaman's. Always seems to be a couple of Venezuleans working there.


Based off of Zing23s report I met up with Viviana at Carolinas. She is a tall creamy coffee colored skin girl with long luxurious black hair. She had a quick smile and quickly singled me out once I entered. I was not surprised when she introduced herself as Viviana. A very enjoyable girl to have met.


Glad to be of service.

-zing

PogoStick
01-17-06, 00:06
I was previously in St. Maarten on vacation with a few friends. However, we attended a brothel and I am unsure what the name of the place was. I was wondering if you guys can help me? We went there late at night with another group of people whom we followed. Here is the description of the place:

This place is on the same road as Seaman's Club. If you are driving north towards Oyster Bay, the Seaman's club is on the left. This place that I am referreing to is on the right side of the road with a dirt parking lot on the left side. I would say it is just about on the border between the dutch and french side. The building looked painted white. When you enter the place there are a lot of steps to go up into the bar and the place looked relatively old and beat up. Once inside, there is a small bar to order drinks which is relatively tall and wide. It makes it kind of hard to order drinks. There is also another room with a pool table. The girls take you outside of the bar and up a few more steps where there is a guy with keys standing in front of a gated entry. Any help would be appreciated?

ThanksThis sounds like the Sunset Retreat. It's an old looking place and it is the only one that has the parking across the street. I have not been to it.

PogoStick
01-17-06, 00:10
I wanted to thank Pogostick for replying. I tossed an email to Selinas and their quoted price for a night was up to $250. Probably the normal busy season price boost as the Maho seems to have doubled its rates as well. Pogostick were you able to select the girl you were seeing – or have any input in your selection?

I$250?? Ouch! That's a big increase! I had little input on the selection, although they did ask whether I like large, small, lite or dark skin, english speaking etc. But the girl that was there was the only one to choose from. It worked out fine for me as she really was very nice.

But at the new price, it's going to be only the brothels for me!

Pogo

Routard
01-17-06, 00:43
Most of your description matches Casa Blanca. Only thing wrong is that they have a big bar (perhaps it has been renovated since you were there). All the rest of your description is Casa Blanca exactly.

-zing

Well, it seems to me that he is referring to Sunset Retreat.

Zing23
01-17-06, 12:20
Well, it seems to me that he is referring to Sunset Retreat.

Good idea. I have never been inside Sunset Retreat.

Tautology99
01-18-06, 08:32
On another note – I seem to fall for the Venezuelan women that I meet in St. Maarten. The majority seem to be from Cali, Colombia or Punta Cana, DR lately. Anyone know of any working Venezuelan girls at the moment?

IThere is a nice Venezuelan girl working under the name Cielo ("Sky") at Seaman's Club. She's 22, nice body, nice attitude, good service. Have fun!

Routard
01-18-06, 13:33
Does anyone know how one would go about arranging for a gal – assumidly from Colombia, DR, or Venezuela to live with you for a month? I would be interested in a live in ‘maid’.


Hi Infinity,

I would not recommend going with a girl for one month. Most of these chicas are probably not real full-time hookers, they do it in a short period of time far from their home country. That's probably why we sometimes get mechanical sex from them and sometimes genuine GFE. It is a matter of mutual chemistry. If you stay a month with her, it can be either a hell or a love story with serious consequences. Are you and is she mentally prepared for that?

Believe me, I have fallen in love many times, and I'm happy that everything is over next morning. I don't need to pay for the sex, I indeed pay for her to leave the next morning. I simply can not imagine living a one month love story and after leaving her again in her shit. We are all humans.

But may be you are looking not for sex but for a partner of life. In that case, this is probably not the best way to find it. I know several lovely beautiful well-educated honest virgin girls (well, I haven't checked the latest of course) that are desperately waiting for the man ready to love them, marry them and get them out of their shitty country. Even if I care for them, I can't and don't want to help them with that. If this is what you are looking for, then PM me, as we are seriously getting out of the scope of this forum.

Infinity
01-19-06, 00:25
An update on Selinas. Selinas is closed for the time being. Between road construction and code issues with their wiring they are having to rennovate.

Jan Chris
01-19-06, 02:51
What Routard says is very interesting and I agree with most of it. However, there are no hard and fast rules.

I had a GFE experience with a couple of chicas but clearly there did not intend at all to settle down.

There are also an intermediate experience I have had with a nice Colombian I met in a brothel. She came to visit me on two occasions, I paid for her ticket and gave her something before she left. So we spent two weeks together. There was no love but I enjoyed spending the time with her fantastic body. There was a good communication between us. She said she prefered to come and see me, have sex as much as I wanted, rather than staying with no jobs and no money or alternatively to come back to a brothel. This was very clear but I tried to have more romance but eventually it failed. If you want to try, PM me, she uses hotmail and can send you some sexy pictures of her, but my guess is that she would not like to have a similar experience with just anyone.

There have been few examples of marriage between clients and chicas, but this is very exceptionnal. Many of them want to earn enough money to buy their house or business, they can earn as much as 1500 USD a week (a single room house in Bogota cost about 15 000 USD) so their mood is not for long term relationship.

The problem I see in the "lovely beautiful well-educated honest virgin girls that are desperately waiting for the man ready to love them, marry them and get them out of their shitty country" is precisely the shitty country. How would you know they are really in love with you (do they even realize themselves?) rather than the situation you offer them.

But afer ll we are all humans. Yes Routard PM me their contact details, I want to give a try because having sex with chicas is for me a temporary experience until I find Mrs. Right.

Zing23
01-19-06, 14:37
I like to give small gifts (regalo) to the chicas - it's fun and rewarding!

When I was talking to one of the Columbianas at Seamans recently, she mentioned that the girls often feel cut off from home. They have their cellphones to get word from Columbia, but it is expensive. They have no TV of any kind, let alone Spanish language, let alone Columbian TV! All info in St Martin is in English, French, or Dutch, but seldom in Spanish.

So the next time I went to see her I look a printout of part of the El Tiempo newspaper from their web site: http://eltiempo.terra.com.co/

El Tiempo is from Bogota, but has sub-sections on Cali, Medelin, etc., as well as Sports (desportes), fashion, culture, music, etc. This gift was a big hit - today's scandals and news from home, delivered direct to the brothel!

The only problem is that the web layout shows mostly only the headlines - you have to click down to get the detailed article. So now I pick a couple of articles that sound interesting and print out the details too, as well as the national headlines, and the headlines from a few sub-sections.

I printed El Tiempo again this week, with a complete article on the Columbian singer Juanes, and gave my gift to a girl from Cali at Petite Chateau. She immediately read the entire thing, cover to cover! She tried to give it back and when I told her it was a gift for her and her amigas, I thought she was going to cry.

PogoStick
01-19-06, 14:49
I don't need to pay for the sex, I indeed pay for her to leave the next morning. Heh heh...I thought that deserved repeating.

Airfare to SXM. $350
Hotel. $100 a nite
Great sex with a beautiful hot, young Latina. . $40

Not having the be I t see h hound ya the next day. PRICELESS!

Routard
01-19-06, 20:19
Pogostick,

I feel I need to clarify a bit my opinion as I don't want to sound it as a lack of respect for the girls. On the contrary, I respect too much women to let them believe in a romance as I just want sex from them.

By the way, believe it or not, I don't pay for the travel expenses, it indeed just costs me 40$. :)

Zing23,

Excellent idea that newspaper thing! Take care, some seamen will also come with a piece of paper to get "hacer l'amor" for 30$!

Jan Chris,

Of course, nothing is either black or white, everything is grey, dark or clear! It is just to make my explainations more easy to understand. I have also had a true love story with a SP, but it was 20 years ago before I was married. I cared a lot for her, but I knew I didn't want her to be the mother of my children. I took great care of her, I helped her to get out of the job, I found her a new job, a new appartment, new friends, and then I left her forever. Thanks for your reaction anyway.

PogoStick
01-20-06, 13:52
Pogostick,

I feel I need to clarify a bit my opinion as I don't want to sound it as a lack of respect for the girls. On the contrary, I respect too much women to let them believe in a romance as I just want sex from them.

By the way, believe it or not, I don't pay for the travel expenses, it indeed just costs me 40$. :)I'm in full agreement with you. I love and respect the girls and treat them like ladies. I am there to have sex with someone young enough to make me feel young again. While I seek out the GFEs, it is still just a business deal. (It's a business doing pleasure with you)

Once while in a past relationship I had a weekend affair with a tourist in Jamaica. I had been honest with her about my being in a relationship at home and that this was just for the weekend. So of course she calls me at home the next week and caused me a ton of grief. No provider has ever done that and that's what I pay them for.

To me, the greatest joy of mongering is to know that it is only for the sex and never having to worry about her trying to take it to the next level.

I wish I didn't have to pay for the travel. Are you on a ships crew? I travel for business so at least it is deductable. Mongering just happens to be my favorite after work activity.

Pogo

Zing23
01-22-06, 12:57
Viviana at Carolina is going back to Columbia on Tuesday, so I thought I should suggest some other names.

A new find is Lina Maria. Tallish for a Columbiana. Dark hair pulled back from her face, big earings. She has a classic look like the young mistress of a large hacienda - her room was immaculate and super clean and does not seem to be shared with another girl!

She looks a bit more formal, since she has perfect arched eyebrows - turns out they are tattoos (I had heard of this but never seen it in person). Natural and extremely yummy breasts. Perfect body. She was a slight bit more reserved than the others at first, until her orgasm, then she melted. I liked her a lot. I want to repeat, but there are so many cute chicas at Carolina.

Zing23
01-23-06, 23:00
How important to the chicas do you think our dollars are?

I was at Carolina in the afternoon and noticed that they have added a spanish language channel to their TV (univision from the usa I think). My favorite show title on this channel is "Gorda y Flaca" (fat and skinny). At the bar I watched a bit of Spanish TV (from Mexico I think) and read the subtitles to work on my Spanish.

While I was walking back to the bar from a session at 230pm, I noticed 6 or 7 very cute chicas sitting on the sofa inside the "hotel" lobby (which is beyond the bar), eyes glued to a Spanish language Soap Opera on the TV there.

Back in the bar there were 8 or 10 men, sitting and drinking, waiting for chicas! Shows us what the priorities of the chicas are, at least with the novelty of a new Spanish TV channel.

If you come into Carolina in the afternoon and find the bar empty of chicas, first check the restaurant next door (where they eat lunch and where you can see them in bright light!) and then just slide through the door to the "hotel" (under the sign that says "Gentleman's VIP Club") and join them on the sofa.

Zing23
01-27-06, 03:20
When I was in Petite Chateau about 2 weeks ago I met 5 chicas who had just arrived from Columbia in the previous few days. I bought them all a drink and started making friends/future plans. The cutest one is just way too small for me, but there was one girl with very beautful features. I looked in last week, but did not see her, so just chatted with 2 of the other Colombianas.

Today I dropped in and spotted the one who appealed to me again: she is Leny from Medellin (a girl from Medellin is called a "paisa") , light skinned, light hair color, light brown eyes, young looking face and body (but has an 11 year old son), small breasts, nice curvy hips and buns. Started a fairly regular and perfunctory session, then I gave her a back massage which she reciprocated. The session then got a lot more GFE. After, we snuggled in bed and talked for a long time, then took a shower together. She has her own room, so no problems with knocks on the door. Dropped the std $40 on the dresser and gave her a copy of today's newspaper from El Tiempo's web site (http://eltiempo.terra.com.co/) in Bogata.

I was in Petite Chateau because there were 4 cruise ships in the harbor today. Carolina was packed with sailors and passengers and never more than 3 or 4 girls free at any one time. Tried one session, but the girl was way too popular - I spotted her when she deposited one client at the bar, then went into the restaurant and then came over to the bar at my signal. Our session went overtime a bit and she had to run off because she had another client waiting in the restaurant where she had left him eating lunch while she went with me! She did the best she could, but she just had too many customers, and her cellphone kept ringing also.

The parking lot at Seamans was completely full, so I didn't even go in there.

Petite Chateau had only 1 or 2 cruise people while I was there. One tourist asked me about renting a villa for a month - I wonder if that was one of our posters here, Infinity, who was asking about a girl for a month!

Also dropped by Defiance and talked again to a cute morena (dark skinned mulatto) chica from Cali (a girl from Cali is called a Caleña). When I was there last week, she wanted me to drive her to the police station to sign her immigration visa - as an inducement she flipped up her miniskirt to show me that she wasn't wearing any underwear. She must have gotten her visa straightened out without my help. Added her to my list of possibles for next week. No cruise people at Defiance either.

Sunset Retreat was closed in the afternoon.

Casa Blanca was open, but quiet. 4 nice black chicas in the bar, with 4 local black guys - no cruise crowd - the other chicas were outside talking or in the restaurant watching tv and eating. one girl followed me in from the outside, but she did not appeal to me. did not see anyone that would make me rush back. probably a much better crowd of chicas later in the day/night. toured the restaurant, which looks slightly better than the ones at Carolina and Defiance.

Tried visiting Crystal Club a few times that last few weeks (it is across the street from Carolina). Quiet and sad in the afternoon. Few chicas, none of whom appealed to me. No customers. Drinks are cheaper!

-zing

PogoStick
01-28-06, 14:07
I got to St Maarten Thursday afternoon and after checking into my hotel to freshen up a bit I headed out to do the tour.

It was around 6pm and all the houses were really slow. Most of the places only had 2-3 cars in the parking lot. I like moderate activity when I monger. Too few clients and you are swarmed by hungry chicas. Too many and the choice is slim. Moderate crowds gives you a chance to sit back and observe for a while and still get a good choice when you are ready.

I decided to go into Defiance. Mainly to see if their BBQ was open. (they have some decent ribs and chicken) Unfortunatly. It was not open yet. So I headed to the bar to see if I could get a beer. It is elections time in St Maarten and no alcohol is allowed to be sold anywhere on the Dutch side for the 3 days that there is voting. The bartender obviously had not heard about it because I had no problem getting a beer.

I was the only customer in the place and there were 3 girls. None really appealed to me. One of them came over and started the usual moves. She was a Negrita from Colombia named Marianna with very large breasts and not my usual taste in a gal. But. She got the little stick ready to bounce so I gave her a try.

It started out pretty good. She was flirty and provocative and was pretty enthusiastic. But after I came it was like someone turned off a light switch. She became very silent and almost vacent. She just wanted to lay in bed and stare at the ceiling. It was almost as if she was trying to delay going back to the bar. Finally I got up and got dressed. She got up, gave me a peck on the cheek and said good bye. It was the very first time that a girl did not walk me back to the bar. Overall. Not the best experience, but that is how it goes sometimes.

One good note. Defiance now sells Vitamins V and C at the bar! It is the real thing and not a generic. I spent $20 for a Vitamin C and headed home for the nite.

Last nite I was tied up with business until about 9. I swallowed the Vitamin C and headed out to prowl. Petite Chateau was packed as the circus is in town and is riight near them. A lot of guys drop their wife and kids off at the circus and walk down to Petite Chateau. I drove by Carolinas but they were very busy as well. Seamans lot was full and I passed Defiance so I could avoid seeing Marianna. So I went to Casa Blanca.

Was able to buy a beer (still illegal) and settled back to see what was on the menu. There were a fair amount of good looking gals. I caught the eye of a very tall, thin girl with long black hair. She came over and I bought her a beer.

Her name is Clara Luz from Santo Domingo. She was dark skinned, but with a definate latin flavor as opposed to West Indian. She and I had an interesting, totally bi-lingual conversation. I speak very little Spanish, and she speaks very little English. She just chatted away in Spanish, I replied in English and we both pretty well understood each other. It actually felt pretty natural. After a lot of hugging, dancing and touching (her ass felt SO NICE in my hands) we headed to her room.

She was a bit shy about removing her bra and seemed to be embarrassed. She apologized for being so small. I happen to be a charter member of the itty-bitty-titty fan club so I was in heaven. I assured her that she was perfect and that like a chile piquena. The smaller the pepper, the hotter the taste. I gave those little things a lot of attention. They are exactly a mouthfull with nice big dark nipples. She was so pleased and relieved that I liked her little ones. I think she was actually pretty close to cumming just from the attention I paid to them.

She then pushed back on the bed, popped a condom in her mouth and got it on with just one quick plunge. She gave me a couple of good deep throats, but seemed very eager to get me inside her. She hopped on in full cowgirl. Feet planted on the bed and riding up and down like a madwoman. She was positioned to get me as deep inside her a possible.

Thanks to the Vitamin C, I was large and strong and even stayed hard after I came. She just kept grinding away. She came really hard. Her eyes rolled back in her head and there was a hot gush inside her. That turned me on even more and we just kept going. She came hard again with another hot gush and after a while I came a second time in perfect timing with her third one. I could definately tell that these were NOT fakes. She got wet enough to soak the bedspread. This was also the first time I have ever busted a nut twice in one condom with no rest period.

She walked me all the way out to my car were we kissed and touched a bit more. We almost did it again right there, but we had no condoms with us. I will be going back there again tonight. You can bet on that! I am getting hard again, just thinking about it.

So far this trip shows the complete range of mongering experiences available in St Maarten. From dissapointing to overwhelming. Mongering is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to find until you taste it.

Pogo

Chris H
02-01-06, 16:57
Hey Pogostick, where do you stay when you go to this paradise island? I am looking for a hotel that is girl-friendly or a nice apartment to stay in for 3 or 4 days. Any advice from anyone will be helpful.

Chris H

Routard
02-02-06, 19:28
I was in Sint Maarten for 24 hours. My plan was to try for a change an all-nighter with a chica. I had booked a nice hotel room with king size bed at Oriental bay. I took my rental car to head for the clubs. My initial plan was to choose a girl, having dinner with her in a romantic restaurant, bringing her to a night club for dancing, having fun in a casino before heading back to the hotel. But I had a bad experience with the last all-nighter experience in Dominican Republic (check my report in the DR thread). I was afraid to choose again the wrong chica. And as soon as I entered Seamen’s Club, it was again the same feeling as usual, I was like a child in a candy store. All those lovely chicas, I wanted to fuck them all! I decided that before my romantic night, there was nothing wrong with a quick relief. Once back from the room after my first fuck, I was already thinking about who could be my second fuck, forgetting all my previous romantic plans. I decided to have a look at nearby Carolina, as the 20 girls to choose from in Seamen’s were not enough.

Once out of the club, I remembered my initial plan, and I entered Carolina with a different mood. I have to say Carolina has also a much more relaxed atmosphere. I started to chat with a few chicas, had a drink with them and asked around for all-nighter pricing. I was surprised about the high pricing, probably due to the high season. Door pricing was still 45$ in Carolina and 65$ in Seamen’s, asking price was still 300$. But last time it could easily be negotiated down to 150$. This time, a very few were ready to go for 200$, but most didn’t want to go for less than 250$. On the other hand, most confirmed they were ready to go for an all-nighter at 150$ without door fee after closing time (2am for Seamen’s and 3am fro Carolina). This means no time for romantic evening, but going back straight with her to the hotel room. Beside the chica choice, I was also wondering now which option to choose. I believed that the best way to think about it was after a second fuck. So back again to the room with a chica.

Her name was Sofia. She was the only girl in the club that had no miniskirt, but was dressed as a regular girl. Once in her perfect clean room I noticed how beautiful she was. She had an extremely sweet and soft attitude, and I realized how stupid I was ignoring all my own previous recommendations about how to approach the girls with a BFE attitude in order to get the best GFE. She undressed, and had the most perfect imaginable body. At first I believed that her perfect C cupped breast just couldn’t be natural, but they were! She was in her early 20’s and I learned later from her that she did a lost of sport. Even if I had acted as an asshole before, the session turned out to be perfect. After a nice BBBJ, she took a cowgirl position and slipped her tight pussy on my dick. I needed to check with my hand to be sure she had put on a condom, as I really hadn’t noticed anything. Fortunately it was my second session, else I would have ejaculated right away. I loved to feel her soft skin and perfect body on my own body. She kissed tenderly and moved slowly, I wished those magic minutes could last forever. We had several positions, but finished in missionary. I think she enjoyed also although she didn’t come. She seemed sad when it was finished, I guessed she wanted also to have her orgasm. But she didn’t tell anything about it, as she had a discrete personality.

At the end of the session, I preferred to escape from her sight and went back to Seamen’s. In the club I recognized a familiar face. Yes, it was Anji, I remembered her very well, as she was the first SP I managed to give a genuine orgasm. She recognized me also, she left her customer and came right to me. It was already a few years ago, I imagine she could have had thousands of sexual encounters in between, so I was quiet proud to be remembered among those thousands of men. She remembered everything, and was surprised that I could remember her also, but I have had way less sexual encounters than her. But my last memory of her was a shy girl, embarrassed to show her A cupped breast while undressing in front of a man (me) that seemed to make a big impression on her. Now, probably after those thousands of sexual encounters, she had lost all her innocence and had even enhanced her breast! I decided it was better to keep up with my good memories and not to go with her and be disappointed.

I quickly noticed another chica, she was real sexy! Time was running up, I had to choose for an all-nighter. I wondered if it could be her. But she had already grabbed me to her room, and I was starting my third session. She asked to be paid 50$ upfront (normal price is 40$). A warning started to blink in my head, but my dick just wanted to fuck that lovely ass. It turned out to be the most horrible session I have ever had in Sint Maarten. She didn’t want me to kiss her (it happens sometimes), but she also didn’t want me to touch her breast. I guessed it was maybe painful for some reason, so I respected that. But she kept complaining each time I touched her with my hands. At one moment, she became angry, asking me to fuck her only and leave my hands from her body. That was it. I lost immediately my erection. I remember a few girls in real life that didn’t want to go further than flirting and refused penetration, which I respect. But I have never experienced before, neither in real life than in my mongering life any girl which didn’t like to be caressed by me. She asked “Que pasa?”, but I’m a gentleman, I just didn’t want to argue with her. I dressed up and left, shivering about the idea that I could have chosen her for an all-nighter.

I went back straight to Carolina, grabbed Sofia and asked her for an all-nighter. She was ready to come with me at closing time for 150$ without door fee, but I was tired and didn’t want to wait that long. So I agreed for 200$, and paid the 45$ door fee. I had no cash money anymore to pay her, but she was confident and said I could pay next morning. Yes, she was the girl I had to go with from the beginning, what an asshole I was to wait that long! There was no time anymore for fun outside, we went straight to the hotel. We took a shower and entered naked in bed. We chatted for a while tenderly enlaced. Even if we were both tired, we made love together before we felt asleep. I woke up next morning, she was still sleeping, perfectly secured. I took a shower, and when I came back in bed, she opened her eyes and smiled. These are probably the best moments of an all-nighter. She came in my arms, asking for tenderness. I offered her to have breakfast, but she asked me to have sex before. Yes, she asked for it, and it wouldn’t make her earn more money! How nice to have sex when the girl asks for it!

After the sex, I wanted to show her the beach. She had fun as we were at the limits between the nude section and the dressed section of Oriental Beach, a mixed area, some had bathing clothes, others were nudes. She had no bathing clothes with her, so we wondered to go naked, but time was running. She had to be back before 11am.

We went for breakfast. This was the most funny part of the story. A kind of remake of “Pretty woman”, except that I was not Richard Gere. She was maybe not Julia Roberts too, but she definitely looked like Jennifer Lopez in her early 20’s. We were in one of the better hotels of Sint Maarten, so most tourists were older american couples. Needless to say, all the guys had the eyes glued to the bomba latina. She felt uncomfortable, she was probably believing that everyone would notice she was a hooker. But that was definitely not, as she was normal dressed and had an extremely well educated and discrete attitude. They all looked at her because she was simply incredible beautiful. And I was the guy they all envied because I was the happy one that fucked her that night. She probably noticed how proud I was to be with her and she started to feel more confident. She went to the buffet. I had fun looking at her, she exchanged a few polite sentences with an embarrassed smiling guy, glued eyes, mouth wide open and tongue reaching the floor; he didn’t even notice how angry his ugly wife looked at the scene. Yes, she smiled, and I was happy for her. She was not anymore a simple hooker, she had found back her dignity and was again a charming young and proud woman. We had breakfast, and if she had been until now very discrete about her personal life, she naturally started to talk about her life in Colombia, her family and her future projects. She finally had opened her heart and soul to me. I wished I could stay another night with her. But time was flying, I had to bring her back before 11am, and I had also to take some cash before to pay her. Once in the car, I handed her over the printed Colombian newspaper, following Zing’s advice. At first she was very happy with it, started to read the news while driving. But most news in Colombia were bad news of course, which made her sad. She was homesick, and I felt sorry leaving her like that, but I couldn’t find the Spanish words to explain my own feelings for her.

Anyway, I had my own meeting at 11am, it was with Zing. We recognized us easily, he also had the typical ISG member profile described earlier during the ISG meeting held in FKK World last december http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=413652&postcount=1113 . We had a lot of things to tell each other, as there are a lot of things that can not be written on the public board. After a drink we had sex (not together of course, each his own chica! :D), lunch and left both back to our normal life. Nice to have met you Zinc! ;) And sorry Pogostick we missed us as you had left a couple of hours before I arrived in Sint Maarten.

Regarding the all-nighter experience, here what I have learned from it: don’t pretend to make it in one night. The first night, go to the brothels and fuck as much girls as possible. This will allow you to sample and to find the perfect gem for the next night. The second night you will be also in a more romantic mood as the sexual pressure has already been released.

Another thing that I've learned, is that if you have an all-nigther and the magic occurs between her and you, well...I've left Sint Maarten since a few days, but I'm still thinking about her.

"Feel it in your heart and feel it in your soul.
All night long!"

Dougief123
02-04-06, 17:38
I'm taking a cruise that ports in St. Maarten on a Tuesday from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m.

Am I still going to be able to do some mongering?

Can anyone give me advice on the best places to go in such an off time for something like this?

Which place is best in the daytime?

Thanks for your help!

Doug

Routard
02-05-06, 11:26
Dougief,

No problem to go to the clubs if coming from a day cruise ship, you will probably even meet there some of the seamen from your ship. Carolina and Seamen's are the two clubs to try, they are both at a 5min taxi drive from the pier. Any taxi will bring you there. The other clubs open later in the afternoon. Casablanca is also open during daytime, but as it is too far from the pier, there is nearly no action on daytime.
Carolina is open from 11am till 4pm and from 7pm till 3am.
Seamen's is open from 11am till 2am.

By the way, here another info I've noticed during my last stay: several brothels sell Viagra at the bar.
Yes, everything is possible in Sint Maarten!

Zing23
02-08-06, 16:03
There is now a good supply of cute Columbian chicas in all the clubs of St Maarten. And some do not have many clients. Here is why:

Seamans and now Carolina are the 2 places that cruise ship crew and passengers go to at the moment. When there are 4 cruise ships in the harbour, those 2 places are packed. sessions are rushed, rooms are in short supply, and there can be frustrations. They open at 11am.

Less than a kilometer away at Petite Chateau and Defiance, there are new batches of cute and friendly girls from Columbia, who have mostly a few local clients. No crews from the cruise ships (who the chicas tell me are quite nice clients, in spite of being on a budget) and no passengers either.

I previously reported on Leny in rm 6 at Petite Chateau, but there is another very cute girl there named Valentina with black hair and chic dark glasses who I intend to try next visit. Petite Chateau opens in the early afternoon (130pm-2pm)

Defiance opens the doors about 1230pm. The last 2 times I was there, I saw 15 girls just sitting around doing their nails, talking and eating lunch, waiting for clients. I talked to 3 girls from Medellin and chose Sara - perfect body, implants, nice face, a little reserved for me (no tonque kissing), but nice. Rm 231 upstairs.

Next time I went with Alejandra from Medellin, rm 210 downstairs. Long black hair, short, cute face, nice natural b cups, an 5 extra kilos on her body, but young, smooth and very GFE (YMMV - I started by giving her a long massage and DATY). Was in her room (clean and large) for an hour. Left $40 on the dresser at the end. She told me that she did not have a choice in which club she went to - she wanted Seamans, but ended up at Defiance.

Attention cruise ship people: these girls are pining away for customers (and attention). Petite Chateau is closer to the boats than Seamans, and Defiance is just up the hill from Seamans on the same road. Just have the taxi driver take you an extra kilometer to Defiance. Why not have a girl who isn't rushed and appreciates a tourist face!

When it is time to leave, ask any guy you see if there is a taxi - if there is no taxi driver, he will probably offer you a ride for $10. Or you could just walk down the hill to Seamans.

-zing

Crossfire1
02-08-06, 19:32
Mongering is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to find until you taste it.

Pogo[/QUOTE]Great Report. I miss my days in St Maarten last year. I only had 3 nights there. But I had a good tour guide. I had a few GFEs at Casablanca and Seamans. I think you were dead on about the range of chicas you can find there.

Zing23
02-14-06, 16:19
For Valentines, I made visits to my favorites at Seamans and Carolina, leaving gifts and having a great time.

After about 3 hours, I went to Petit Chateau to see if any of my Columbiana friends there would like a valentine gift. When I got there, the bartender (she is the best looking girl in the place, but doesn't seem available) pointed out two girls who were new, so I went over and sat between them.

Leslie is from Cuba, cute, mixed Indian-Hispanic features, very yummy natural breasts, and Anji from Santo Domingo (large natural breasts, too much makeup for my taste) stroked me and helped me with my Spanish and were generally very sexy without being too aggressive. They suggested a threesome for Valentines Day, but I protested that I had already been with 2 other girls that day.

They were so sympatico that eventually I decided to give them two of my remaining Valentine gifts. This surprised them a lot, leading to a lot of kisses and caresses. I decided they were the pair that would be my first threesome, so I said yes, lets go to the room.

In Leslie's room (#13), I put a latina cd on the player (Rosana's greatest hits, chicas like this a lot), and within a minute I was stripped and had a condom on and had Leslie sucking my cock while Anji sucked my balls. Somehow the girls shed their clothes, but I always had someone on my cock, no matter what I was doing (lots of positions, DFK, DATY, switching girls and condoms, etc.)

Really quite natural and wonderful, non-stop sensations. Leslie was the leader, introducing lesbian action and massaging me from the rear when I was busy with Anji. They were prepared to go on, but finally I called a halt. My senses were overloaded and I wasn't going to come. Not after 2 previous times. Leslie understood and explained to Anji.

I left each with $40 and a Latina CD - smiles all around. Leslie gave me a Marck Anthony CD - first time a chica has given ME a gift!

-zing

Routard
02-15-06, 15:07
Leslie gave me a Marck Anthony CD - first time a chica has given ME a gift!


Good news if Cubanas come to Sint Maarten, I love Colombianas, but Cubanas....

Zing23
02-17-06, 15:54
At Carolina there is a complete new set of chicas, mostly from Columbia. Only 2 left that I recognize from the previous crew. Lots of cute talent to sample, so little time....

At Seamans there are also lots of new girls, although not a complete turnover. My current favorite amiga is selecting a girl that she thinks is right for me, tranquilo, not rushed, sexy, to replace her when she leaves on mar 2! I asked if she was going to auction me off on e-bay.

At Defiance, Alejandre from Medellin has moved to room 210. But she hopes to move to Seamans next week....

At Petit Chateau, Leslie the cubana in rm 13 who was part of my threesome, has grey eyes - i never noticed last visit! very unique. and she fakes the most intense, convincing orgasm, building up over 10 minutes, then later laughes about it. She told me, if we really orgasmed with the clients, we would fall asleep and miss the next one.... a very educational hour for $40.

all in all, a good afternoon.

-zing

Jan Chris
02-19-06, 16:25
I have arrived yesterday in St Maarten and here are my first impressions :

- Description and location of the brothels by Routard and other mongers are accurate but you'd better look at them during daytime ;

- Casa Blanca is full of Dominican no Colombians.

- Yes Carolina tend to have better looking girls ;

- Petit Chateau and Sunset retreat are patronised by locals and I have not found any attractive girls.

Further details will come one I will have tried several chicas.

NB : There are few internet cafes here : Found one on airport road, two in Grand Case. On Sunday, go to Republic Street in Marigot.

Beregic
02-20-06, 22:17
LOL man. To me you seem you are either daydreaming or a cuban pimp

What in the name you mean by paying in advance. Funny how you just let that "slip". LOL

To anyone reading this please be advised that paying in advance to a girl that you just met will almost suerlly lead you in gettng poorer quality service even if you are Brad Pit LOL

And make sureu talk about price ahead. A hooker will never never never be impressed of you giving her compliments. Treat her nice, etc but business is bussines, never forget that

Jan Chris
02-21-06, 15:19
This is now my third day in St-M and I have now a better impression of the girls and service available.

For sure, SXM is far better in terms of choice than Trinidad. I ended up to visiting only Seeman's and Carolina. Casa Blanca has more girls but all from the Dominican Republic, which means they are all black, which is not my first choice.

In Seeman's you'll find a girl with a body to die for, like the ones you see in Playboy magazines : tall, nice C/D cup breast, long blond hair, provocative. Her name is Carolina I think. Unfortunately, she does not provide good service and I was disapointed.

In Carolina, I would recommend Luna, same sort of body, but her sevice was better. Unfortunately, Sofia (see Routard's report) is gone!

A lot of girls have silicone breasts but in most of the cases they really look natural : incredible what the surgeons can do nowadays!

My general impression is that the level of service is not very high, because there are a lot of clients, and the chicas do not need to keep you as a regular customer. I was surprised however to see that they come and talk to you rather than the locals, but I suspect they charge you more. Sometimes, they will put their hands in intimate places, which I do not like (don't they know that the desire comes from the brain, not the sex?). On the other hand, the atmosphere is relaxing and I like to be here with them.

More will follow.

Zing23
02-23-06, 12:17
Had a very enjoyable session with Patricia at Defiance. She is pretty and black, from Columbia, with a very fit body - not an ounce out of place. Small breasts. Anglo facial features.

Started with a lot of kissing and caressing as we stripped. Gave her a back massage, and rubbed my cock on her perfect little ass. When I massaged her legs and feet, she spread her legs a bit. I stroked her pussy and ass from behind and she was wet, so I took a smell. Yummy, so I sucked her pussy and ass. Then flipped her over for DATY. When these chicas like something, or want you to think they like it, they murmer "rico".

She went for the condom, but I asked if she would suck without the condom (chuparme sin condon). Excellent BBBJ, deep, interrupted for a minute when she got one of my pubic hairs caught in her throat (is this more detail than you want or need?)

Several enthusiastic positions later, I finished and we took a shower.

Recommended. $40. Rm 212 ?

P.S. She dances naked during the Happy Hour. Not sure of the time, but perhaps 6-8pm on Sunday? Patricia wears a snap-open leotard and no panties - in case you need a sample in the bar.

Jan Chris
02-25-06, 17:01
I have been now one week in SXM and even decided to extend my stay, as I finally enjoyed mongering here.

1) Places and working hours

As said in my previous posts, some places open from 11am or 2pm, but of course the choice will be limited. There is however a timeframe you should avoid : between 6pm and 8pm, there is almost no one. The girls are either resting before the long night to come, or going out to lunch.

Casa Blanca and Sunset Retreat have only Dominican girls. This means that there are almost all blacks and have no implants. If you like black girls with small breasts, this is an option. Otherwise, try other places.

Seaman's and Carolina are the best places to my point of view (the girls are better looking). The places refered as "714" and "Unknown" in an old post are nothing but Carolina and Crystal (where I never found more than 3 girls at the same time).

2) Service and clients

As I wrote earlier, the level of service is not the best I have seen. In Trinidad (a country which I will NOT recommend for mongering) I had better experiences, but this was exceptional and due to the fact that I was the only educated/decent European in a middle of local Afro-Indo Trinidadians, and maybe I was not very lucky up to now in SXM. The better looking girls are not always the ones who provide the best service.

I have not met any girl here who kiss with tongue, and as I was asking few of them, they found it "discusting". However some do a very nice session (see my report for some of them hereafter).

Asking if they refused to have sex with some of the patrons, the answer was clearly "yes". What they do is that they charge them so much that they will have to refuse. African descent men are particularly blacklisted, for a reason I would not mentionned to be politically correct. This raises an ambivalent point of view :

- on the one hand, I feel sorry for them, because the basic rule of prostitution is that if you can afford it, you should be able to have sex with the most beautiful girls of the world. You can have the ones you would never be able to seduce in the real world, even if you are rich. Those who are even denied that possibility must be extremally frustrated, and it is unfair ;

- on the other hand, I am happy to see that the chicas are free to pick and choose, they are not merely sex slaves. I think the freedom to refuse to have sex even for a prostitute should be a basic right and we cannot deny them that.

3) My experience with some chicas

In Seaman's, I started to have a session with Carolina, the "playboy" body I mentionned earlier. Disapointing. Similarly disapointing was my session with Johanna, a red hair girl with quite large natural breast.

Then I tried with Sarah. She is the youngest chica of Seaman (19 years old) slim with a long black hair. Everything is small, cute and adorable with her : her lips, her mouth, and ... her pussy. Yes, she has a tight one, and if you have a more than an average size asset, I would recommend to try someone else, because you will not only hurt her, but intercourse is likely to be uncomfortable for you as well. Anyway, she is not the kind of girl you will have great sex with. I took her for the all night however, and had a great orgasm because of my strong desire, not thanks to her average service.

In Defiance, I had a nice session with Amalia. Dark skinned young girl with big implants. I liked her personnality and I intend to see her once more before I leave.

In Carolina, my favourite place (do they select the girls?), I had some sessions with three diferent girls :

- Luna, a tall, very slim, long blond hair Colombian. Her breast are siliconed but not too big which is good given her very slim waist. She has a provocative attitude which I could have done without but sex was great. I thought I would take her for the night, but...

- I met Lucia, 20 years old, black hair, implants but they look natural. She is soft and she is not the kind of girls that will provoque you with suggestive attitude. A very quite personnality. I had two sessions and I think I would like to have her as a friend rather than a lover, not that she is not good, but her personality is really nice.

- I had two sessions with Valentina. At first, I did not notice her. She is tall and has a long black hair. 23 years old. What happened is that she did a strip dance, and when she took out her bra, I realized she had a really natural C cup breast bouncing and exciting my senses. She is the kind of girls which is perfectly confortable with this job. She knows how to please a man. When I told her I decided to take her for the night, she was really delighted and extremelly happy.

They all are because they know they will earn as much as in one night and be able to sleep well. Of course, one of the problem is that all these girls are financially very interested. I do not negociate the tarifs, because I think they are quite low for what they are doing (think that you will spend at least 400 USD for an hour session in Europe!). On the other hand I have to limit their pretentions (tip or "propina", they aslo ask if you can buy them telephone cards, etc.) otherwise they will just consider you as a mere walking wallet. To my point of view, Valentina is the less financially interested. She never ask anything, gives you the change if you give her more...

4) Accomodation and Cars

Last but not least, I'd like to mention that I rented a car through internet with Payless Car Rental. They had the cheapest rate (29 USD/day).

I started to stay in Captain Oliver's : very good location for our business, nice rooms, best value for money, girls friendly (anyway the reception closes at 11pm). I am changing to Colombus this afternoon, just in front of Captain Oliver's, because they are cheaper (92 EUROs breakfast included).

Zing23
02-27-06, 12:23
. There is however a timeframe you should avoid : between 6pm and 8pm, there is almost no one. The girls are either resting before the long night to come, or going out to lunch.


I agree completely. I visited all the brothels Sat night around 7 and found only a handful of girls in 5 places! This is a good time to have your dinner.





In Carolina, I met Lucia, 20 years old, black hair, implants but they look natural. She is soft and she is not the kind of girls that will provoque you with suggestive attitude. A very quite personnality. I had two sessions and I think I would like to have her as a friend rather than a lover, not that she is not good, but her personality is really nice.

I met Lucia on her first day at Carolina. She saw me looking around and asked if I was looking for my amiga. I said yes and she told me I would have to wait. We had a very nice chat - she has no children, instead she has a dog and showed me pictures on her cellphone. As you say, a very comfortable and quiet personality. I have talked to her several times since and intend a session when my favorita leaves for Columbia soon.

Zing23
02-28-06, 13:01
Went to Sunset Retreat sat at about 10pm. Coming from Phillipsburg, you see the sign on the right side of the road and park on the left side, past the sign. Then you cross the street and walk up some very badly engineered steps to the bar. There is also a pool table and a small restaurant in the back.

It seems a lot like the other places in St Maarten, but smaller. The chicas looked interesting. There was a good crowd. It was very noisy and dark, making selection of a chica more difficult. Went to the room with Judy from Santo Domingo - thin, pretty, light skinned. Like Casa Blanca, you pay first to the bar, $42. A bad sign. The service was perfunctory. No kisses. Short covered BJ. Disappointing.

This doesn't mean that all the girls are like that, but how do you select the sympatica chica when you can't hear to talk and can't even see her all that well?

Jan Chris
02-28-06, 16:56
I am about to leave SXM and would like to add few comments on practicalities :

1) Accomodation

Colombus is less girl friendly than Captain Oliver's. Since I paid the tarif for one person, I prefer to leave with Lucia discretely, but there is a side entrance. If you buy your own food, you can cook your breakfast in the kitchen, so no need to go to the restaurant with the chica, although yours is included in the price.

Another alternative I would like to consider next time, in order to spare a little bit more money, is to go to a guest house in Walter Nisbeth Road #29. Is is called Soualiga guest house (Tel : +599-542-0077 - Fax : +599-542-0077). I have not been to the rooms and is is certainly more basic than any hotel, but there is air conditionning, cable TV, Microwave, Fridge, Shower. It may be worth to pay for a double occupancy (65USD is high season) because you could avoid to rent a car. In fact, this guesthouse is about 20 minutes walk from Seeman and Carolina, which can be enough because the nicest girls are there. And of course, it is even closer to Petit Chateau, but I never found an attractive girl there. Furthermore, you'll be close to a beach and to the main shops in Philipsburg.

2) About Carolina

I finally got the answer : yes, they select the girls. Those you want to apply have to send a picture a liaison agent in Bogota, and their application is accepted or refused. This is why almost all of them are good looking. I am not sure, but I think the same apply to Seaman's.

Maybe you would like to know under which financial aspects they are working :
a) We already know what WE pay : 3 USD at the counter, 40 USD for a 20 minutes session, 45 USD to get the girl out, 300 USD for a all night. I never bargain because they are having a hard time and you never get a better service for less. Indeed they work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. Therefore they are likely to experience some problems (see hereafter)
b) But what do THEY pay? The girls have to pay 57 USD/day for the rooms and 150 USD a week to the counter. This means that they must have at least 2 customers a day to pay their "employers" (strange working contract isn't it?). They also have to pay all sorts of fine ("multa") if they do not respect the rules, such as the medical inspection.

However the medical aspect do not provide the best results : I must say my session with Valentina has been spoiled because she had health problems. I am sure she was not faking (but she is faking orgasm very nicely!). Probably just lack of sleep. But when we came back to Carolina for medical assistance, they were not very helpful, they did not even gave us an emergency number nor the adress of the closest hospital. Is it to the customer to care about the chicas in such circumstances?

3) Tip of the day

You want to make love on the beach?
- Go either to Happy Bay near Grand Case, 10 minutes from Liar's Bay (but you should first go there during day time and bring some light during the night to walk in the path). Very small, isolated beach with nice scenery.
- Alternatively, try Guana Bay : it is closer to Carolina, easier access. But there again, you should have a look first during daytime before going with a chica. This is a much larger beach, in an open area (few private houses but no bars, restaurant, this is why it is deserted even during the day). But there was no one, and fulfilling one of my last fantasy at 36 years old was really exciting. Needless to say that I will remember this and the chica all my existence.

Chris H
03-01-06, 22:53
Jan Chris,

Where did you get the girl at that you idi it with on the beach?

Chris H

Jan Chris
03-02-06, 00:56
I found the girl at Carolina. I prefer not to say which one because I think she would not appreciate. But ask any of your choice about your fantasy before taking her for the night. Most will likely accept, I am quite sure.

The beach in Guana Bay. We just had sex and this was very exciting for both of us. It was the first time for her as well.

Jan Chris
03-02-06, 01:00
Soualiga is really basic. To give you an idea, the rooms look like the one of the brothel. Not very nice to take a girl with you during the night. Otherwise, it's cheaper and close to three brothels and there is what they say.

Chris H
03-02-06, 22:51
JC,

Which pkace did you stay at that had the kitchen to cook in? How much per night, and do you have any contact numbers for this place? Your reports are very informative, and I really can't wait to get down to the paradise island. I am surprised that it cost $300 for all night with a female. That seems alot more than they would make for the hwhole night if they stayed in the club. Does anyone know of a cheaper price for an all-nighter?


Chris H

Jan Chris
03-02-06, 23:48
Chris H,

I stayed in Captain Oliver's (more girlfriendly but no possiblity to cook) and Colombus (there you can cook, but if you pay the price for the single use - 92 euros, otherwise it is 143 euros - they will give you only one towel and you are not supposed to use the second bed). Both are excellent location but a car is compulsery. I am currently at Soualiga, cheap and basic, but you can't take the dirt road shortcut during the night - too dark, too isolated, so that's a 2,5km walking to Seeman's.

Yes, 300 USD for a night is a lot, and I suspect some earn less when hey stay at the brothel. I have stayed last night from 9 to 12pm and observe one of the nicest girl : she apparently got only one client. But it is possible that she got three or four after I left. Some are less nice, but they managed to get more client by exciting them. That's why some clients bargain and get it down to 200 USD. It depends on the girl : the nicest she is, the most difficult it will be for you to get a better price. And do not forget : you do not get a better service for less. Personnaly, I do not like to bargain - for this last reason, for compassion, because it does not correspond to my cultural behaviour, and because I think it is their job and it seems ackward to deal it that way with sexual service. And then I consider that it is "take it or leave it".

However, on two or three occasions (not here) I was asked how much I was ready to pay. Difficult to answer, but the strategy is clear : if you propose more than they will expect they will accept ; otherwise, they will tell you their price.

RexG
03-06-06, 00:36
I'll be visiting St. Maarten this month. I did not plan for this to be a mongering visit. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that this is a fairly active mongering venue. I have been doing my homework and I want to extend my special thanks to the authors of posts #50 and #75 (the annotated map). They have made me quite confident that I will be able to locate the mongering sites without difficulty.

I do have a question or two. The first is about showers. From what I have read, showers are apparently available in most of the brothels. Are there any exceptions? I am the type of guy who will want to shower before AND after. Will this tend to cut into my time or rush things or increase my cost?

I am also under the impression that the fee is around U$S 40 for a session of ~ 25 minutes. I do like to take my time and I enjoy longer (40-60 minute) sessions. Are these longer sessions easy to arrange and reasonably priced?

Thanks,

Rex

Zing23
03-06-06, 12:05
Rex-

I am the type of guy who will want to shower before AND after. Will this tend to cut into my time or rush things or increase my cost?


I have never had my shower time counted against session time or increase the cost. In fact, I get the impression that cleanliness may actually increase your session time.



I am also under the impression that the fee is around U$S 40 for a session of ~ 25 minutes. I do like to take my time and I enjoy longer (40-60 minute) sessions. Are these longer sessions easy to arrange and reasonably priced?


Longer sessions are easy to negotiate - "una hora?" Expect to be quoted $100 and negotiate down to $60 or $80, depending on how busy the girl is, how desireable you are as a client, etc. I have payed as little as $40 and as much as $100 for 80 minutes with super service.

UPDATE (one more thought): When Seamans and Carolina are very busy and the girls are sharing a room, there can be problems with staying in the room for an extended time. The other roommate will be knocking on the door after 30 minutes or less! If you negotiate an hour in advance, the girl can warn her roommate.

-zing

Kendan
03-20-06, 00:08
I must thank earlier posters who reviewed the island and each of the clubs. I've been travelling in Latin America for 20+ years but this was my first trip to St. Martin, and first to a club like this since right after my divorce a few years ago (I spent time in similar establishments in Guatemala and Costa Rica back then, but wasn't aware of this forum at the time.) I was on St. Martin with friends/extended-family and only had time for a couple of trips to the Seaman's Club, but I found everything exactly as described.

I'm posting to add my take to earlier comments on Seaman's club. Both times I went in it was around midnight, and there seemed to be about equal number of girls and "potential" customers. However, some of these guys were being completely ignored by the girls, while others were getting a lot of attention.

After I came back from my first session I sat back down at a table for a smoke and another drink and got into a conversation with a group of the guys who were being ignored. They were workers from the DR, unable to afford any time with the girls, but enjoying having a drink and ogling them nonetheless. I think they're allowed to hang out in there as long as they keep buying drinks, but I didn't really question them about that. The girls seemed to tolerate them with humor, generally ignoring them, but occasionally flashing some T or A as they walked by, always to appreciative whoops.

By contrast, the tourist types there seemed subdued and quiet, and appeared to need a lot of coaxing and persuasion in many cases. For the normal tourist I would guess that's a natural reaction, few men are accustomed to having hot, scantily clad women put their arms around them and try to talk them into having sex before they can even make the few steps between the door and the bar. But the aggressive ones are usually not the hottest, and I wonder if later at night the girls who haven't been that busy during the day get more aggressive to make up for it, especially if the other girls have been doing well.

The price I was given was $40 for 20 minutes, $50 for half an hour. I paid $40 each time but didn't see any clock-watching. The first night I was with a Colombian girl (I'm horrible with names, sorry!) who claimed to be from Cali. She'd been on the job for less than two weeks and appeared to want to just get things over with. So before we started I asked if I could relax on her bed for a minute. We ended up talking for 10 or 15 minutes, and I did the same kind of stuff I used to put my girlfriend in the mood (footrub, joking with her, talking slowly in an easy voice) until she was relaxed and smiling and it ended up being a great session. I must mention a "YMMV" tip - at one point as we changed positions, she thought I was going for a DATY and panicked - no no! That's not my thing anyway, but for those who like it, make sure you let the girl know specifically what you want to do before you hire them for a session! If that was what I'd come for I'd have been pretty annoyed.

The second visit was with an enthusiastic Dominican who joined me afterwards at the table, snuggled into my lap, and hung out with me until I left. Very, very nice, both trips. The girls I was with were meticulously clean about everything. I did not ask for uncovered-anything (there are others in my life that I need to protect), so again if that's your thing, make sure you ask. This trip was a couple of weeks ago and I think many of the girls are new, so I'm not sure what is available in the bareback area.

I must add that none of this would have been the same experience without speaking Spanish. With girls in this business its important to distinguish between what she does and who she is. Getting to 'who she is' is crucial for me to really enjoy the experience. To reliably experience Latinas at their best, I highly, highly recommend Spanish classes or conversational language CDs (here I would say that my favorite is the Pimsleur series, which I used to get Portuguese down before a trip to Brazil last year. Pricey but worth it.)

Anyway, thanks again all for the great tips on this forum, excellent stuff here and I wish I'd found it years ago!

KD

Zing23
03-21-06, 11:16
before we started I asked if I could relax on her bed for a minute. We ended up talking for 10 or 15 minutes, and I did the same kind of stuff I used to put my girlfriend in the mood (footrub, joking with her, talking slowly in an easy voice) until she was relaxed and smiling and it ended up being a great session. KD

I have had sessions in St Maarten where the bar was too noisy for a conversation before hand and the girl had programmed herself for a quick, miminal session. I love your idea of asking if you can relax on the her bed for a minute before starting, then use that time to change her mood.

I sometimes ask if they would like a massage, which can help somewhat, But that is much more rushed than your idea!

-zing

PogoStick
03-24-06, 00:35
I just arrived in St Maarten and am about to head out for my first round of fun.

Any other mongers on island this weekend? Zing? Routard?

I'll report in if I survive!

pogo

Zing23
03-24-06, 13:34
I asked a girl at Club Defiance how I could see her at 11am, since the bar doors don't open until 1230 or 1pm. She said no problem, the gate (porto)
on the side of their building is open. Just come in and knock on her door (alexandra, rm 213).

As you face the entrance to the bar, there is a pay phone to the left of
the bar building.

Behind that is an open area before the wing with the bedrooms.

on the left side of that building is an iron gate, which you should be able to open.

the girls are on two floors - each has her own room!

-zing

PogoStick
03-25-06, 13:53
I asked a girl at Club Defiance how I could see her at 11am, since the bar doors don't open until 1230 or 1pm. She said no problem, the gate (porto)
on the side of their building is open. Just come in and knock on her door (alexandra, rm 213).

I was told the same thing yesterday when making plans to take a girl to the beach on Sunday.

Her name is Andrea from Bogota (room 206). 25, no kids (nice and tight) white skin, blonde hair and a very nice set of enhanced mamas. Only been there a few days. She spoke no english and I speak muy pocito espanol. It was mid afternoon. Daytime is the best time for Deiance. They are essentially on thier own time with no key charge or clock watching.

She was one of the better GFEs I have had. Really into DFK and cuddling. I gave her a massage then got a BBBJ and covered to completion. Then we cuddled and made out for a while until the little stick was ready to bounce again. Then some really nice covered FS. After more cuddling she wants to go for a third. I didn't take any vitamins so I figured that would be pretty unlikely. So I said..Esta Muerto!

She took that as a challange! She spent quite a while trying to raise the dead...BBBJ, tea bag...you name it. Finally she hops out of bed, stands there with her hands on her hips and just glared at me. Then she grabs a bottle of baby oil and goes back at it with hands and tits. Soon she starts chanting Viene! Viene! (it comes) and sure enough the dead lives again. I busted a good nut all over her. Then she gave me a very proud look, kissed the bottle of baby oil and threw herself on top of me for a big deep kiss. Awesome!

We are going to Orient Beach on Sunday. She said to come around the side and knock on her door. She said she sleeps until 1 or 2, but I can come anytime earlier and sleep a bit with her before we go out.


the girls are on two floors - each has her own room!


That's correct. They do share a bathroom. The conditions there are somewhat nice...yet...somewhat primative. The rooms are not bad and they do have some storage for their personal stuff. There is no airconditioning and there were quite a few mosquitos. The shower is cold water only and no showerhead...just cold water out of a pipe. I almost broke the sink off the wall by just barely touching it.

I can see why a day out of there is always welcomed by the girls. A day trip is no problem and no bar fine, but they have to be back by 4. This can be a true GFE as they will only go out if they like you. A good meal and a hot shower are appreciated and the sex will be for real and not mechanical. If she really like you, she won't ask for or expect money, but I will still give them a few bucks, which are welcomed of course, but think of it more as a date.

Orient Beach is good because you can go nude. Otherwise you might end up buying her a bathing suit. Besides...it's always nice to be at a nude beach with a very hot young girl! Sex is NOT allowed there, but can be done discretly in the water. There are plenty of good bars and restaurants to take her to while there. Papagayos and the Perch are good because they are also clothing optional.

This is why St Maarten is in my opinion one of the best mongering spots on earth. There may be places that have more girls that charge less, with cheaper hotels and stuff. But St Maarten has it all....good brothels, beautiful nude beaches, modern facilities, good eats and some nice casinos. Who could ask for more?

pogo

Zing23
03-28-06, 15:10
Her name is Andrea from Bogota (room 206). 25, no kids (nice and tight) white skin, blonde hair and a very nice set of enhanced mamas. Only been there a few days. She spoke no english and I speak muy pocito espanol. It was mid afternoon. Daytime is the best time for Deiance. They are essentially on thier own time with no key charge or clock watching.
...
pogo

I went by Defiance with the idea of looking up Andrea (or one of the other Columbianas that I like Sara, Alexandra and Patricia). While I was drinking a cold water (the weather in St Maarten has just switched from comfortable warm winter to hot summer over night), a very cute and fit black girl with large natural breasts came over and said hello. She is 25 and has no children.

Sharon is from Tulua in Columbia, which is the same town as Cynthia, a black chica at Defiance in the fall. She claimed to know Cynthia, and it may be true, since she mentioned the name of another friend that I remembered from Defiance.

After some nice talk and touching, we headed off to Sharon's room, which is 205 - right next to Andrea in 206 (who I never did see).

This girl has a perfect body and really aims to please. Lots of kisses, carresses, BBBJ, DATY, CFS in lots of positions, including some that were completely new to me. After about an hour of fun, I climaxed satisfactorily (it was the second girl of the day for me).

Afterwards, she asked if I wanted more (mas?). My answer was si y no (yes and no). Yes I wanted more, but was I up to it? After 20 minutes of talking (in Spanish) and snuggling, we had to dig up another condom. We tried 4 more positions for about 30 minutes, but another come was not possible for me in that short of time.

After 2 hours, I left her $40, plus a small regalo (gift), and a copy of the day's news from Columbia (from the El Tiempo web site).

Sharon has only been in St Maarten for a week, but she already has a large number of guys calling on her cellphone and sending her messages. I can understand why - she was really good!

-zing

Lucky Strike
03-30-06, 07:53
http://news.caribseek.com/Sint_Maarten/The_Daily_Herald/article_30262.shtml

or

http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/i267/petty267.html

Alan
03-30-06, 17:57
Friends, this is such a tragic blow. Routard how shall we survive?

Alan

Routard
03-30-06, 19:01
Don't worry Alan, all chica's are safely relocated in Defiance. The show must go on!

Sorry, I've no time to write more, I need to comfort those poor chicas.

Routard

Zing23
03-31-06, 14:59
Saw the report of the fire at Petit Chateua in the paper, so I drove by yesterday. The front portion of the building shows no signs of fire at all and the doors were open for business as usual. I was at Defiance later in the afternoon and did not see any of the girls from Petit Chateau working there, so they must be busing to work at Petit Chateau!

[Update, Sat Apr 1: I went in Petit Chateau today and it is open. the back section of chica rooms is boarded off, but the section around the courtyard and the bar are ok. At Defiance, a chica told me that 3 girls from Petit Chateau were now working at Defiance, including one with a giant rearend!]

There was also excitement last week when a fight that started at Carolina ended up with a stabbing nearby. Here is the report from the Daily Herald:

"Man rushed to operating room with 6 stab wounds"

A man identified as J.R.D. (44) of the Dominican Republic underwent an emergency operation to save his life after he was stabbed at least six times abot his body by an attacker who police say is known by the vicitm, outside New Arch Supermarked on Arch Road in Sucker Garden on Wednesday [Mar 22] around 2:30am.

Police spokesman Inspector Johan "Janchi" Leonard said the suspect was believed to be one W. and had been on the run ever since the near fata stabbing incident. According to the report, the stabbing came at the end of a long chain of bickering between the two for reasons not yet made known to detectives [note: a girl at Carolina told me they thought it was about business, perhaps drug business].

It appears that J.R.D was at Carolina Bar on Arch Road having a late night drink when the suspect spotted him and immediately threw a beer bottle at him, hitting him. After receiving the blow, J.R.D. reportedly fought back and the two rolled around on the ground outside the restaurant until the suspect pulled a knife and cut J.R.D. near his throat.

Realizing that he was being overpowered, J.R.D. started running away from his attacker, who followed him and managed to stab him at least twice while they were both running along Arch Road.

Tired and wounded, J.R.D. fell to the ground outside New Era Chineses Supermarket [note: this is right next to Carolina] at which point the suspect reportedly sat on him and stabbed him a few more times. When the ambulance crew arrived at the scene, J.R.D. was covered with blood and had to be rushed to the emergency room to be operated on. He is now in stable condition....

The girls at Carolina told me that none of the girls were involved in the fight, nor in danger. One of the girls at Seamans told me that one of her clients had seen the fight at Carolina and said there was so much blood (sangrie) that he was shocked. He lost his interest in Carolina and decided to walk down the road to Seamans instead!

-zing

Zing23
04-02-06, 17:26
i started my mongering career 6 months ago with a very short columbiana named laura with very enhanced breasts. she was the first chica to approach me at seamans club. i have been visiting the brothels of st maarten about once or twice a week since then, mostly in the day time.

i guess i was naive, but here are ten things that took me by surprise:

1. some chicas lie. not just about their age and how good looking you are and how they love you, but also about seemingly wierd things like where they come from. isobel told me she was from mexico, but i found out later she was a columbiana. did she just mean that she had most recently worked in mexico, or was she trying to make herself stand out among the 25 columbianas at seamans? it wasn't a language problem, because she spoke reasonable english. maybe they just get bored and like to play games with the clients.

2. the better the chica's knowledge of english, the more likely they are to have a lot of rules (no kissing, no bbbj, etc.). i think it comes from more contact with north america.

3. a little bit of spanish is not enough to understand everything. i have gotten girl's names wrong and misunderstood numerous other things as well (these became obvious in retrospect). the results have sometimes been humorous - nothing serious so far.

4. the chicas know everything that goes on in the club - who you go with, how you liked it, etc. perhaps they sit around and gossip when it is quiet. sometimes they even know things that happen in other clubs. but all of the chicas have been very discreet - none has tried to call me at home or done more than text message me on a cellphone that i first text messaged them from. even though a chica may remember you the next time, don't expect her to remember all the details of your sexual preferences - if she has had many clients since you, it may be necessary to remind her that you like bbbj.

5. chicas like to capture you as a regular client and make themselves your "amiga". and they can be very intense about this. if you repeat even once with the same girl, she will try to make you her private client, and make it uncomfortable for you to do a session with anyone else in the club. of course, all you have to do is say "no", but for some guys like me that can be tough. i suspect that this is a real issue of chica pride: if you are her amiga and bring her nice gifts, then she can brag about you and feel less bad about her work. if you then go with another girl from the same place, it makes her feel disrespected and look foolish in front of her peers. i was suprised that the other chicas generally cooperate in this effort (they will go tell your regular that you have arrived, instead of trying to steal you away). of course if you are only in st maarten for the weekend, this is not an issue. but i am seeing these girls at least once a week, sometimes more!

6. surprising things can happen with a regular amiga. two out of 4 offered me uncovered sex at no extra charge, which makes no sense from an economic/risk point of view. one chica ran away from the brothel and moved in with a man on the french side - then begged to see me on the side. although she professed to want/need/love me, she still thought i should provide money gifts for her! another cried briefly during our last time together at seamans, after 3 months of light-hearted paid sex and joking (i was very nice to her that last time, but i am just a customer, and she was happy to stop having sex for money). the third amiga threatened to cut off my cock if i went with another girl at the same club. probably she was just being dramatic, but she did know some columbian guys that live in st maarten! once when i ignored her possessiveness and went with another girl, the second girl told me it could cause her big problems.

7. some chicas fake an orgasm amazingly well. when one girl revealed this to me after a particularly impressive performance, i mentally reviewed some of my previous encounters and re-evaluated them. their job is to make you feel like a million dollar lover, even though you pay only $40, so it makes sense. i now assume an orgasm is faked, unless i have my finger inside her at the time and feel the rhythmic contractions (and i am not 100% sure that those couldn't be faked also).

8. the best looking and the most aggressive chicas do not always give the best service. on the other hand, sometimes a real beauty is also great in the room, and i have had an amazing time with one super-aggressive girl who was also a hardened pro! generally, the better and more varied the communication, the better the session, regardless of the beauty and aggressiveness. recently, two chicas that i selected myself, but not the most beautiful, were dissappointing (no dfk, no gfe). so i am still confused.

9. some chicas make no money at all -- after you subtract the fees they pay to the house, their food and other expenses, and divide the cost of travel/visa/etc over their 3 month visit. others make money, but spend it right away. and some make lots of money, save it all, and plan to open their own businesses when they return to columbia!

10. the chicas do profiling of their potential clients: cruise crew, cruise passengers, other tourists, local blacks, local french, local dutch, misc local caucasians like myself, and local east indians (according to one girl they negotiate the hardest, wanting fs for $20!). the chicas have opinions and preferences for each group. they may even vary the services that they provide and the prices they charge. think of it as market segmentation, like having 5 different kinds of coca cola.

overall, it has been an enlightening and pleasurable 6 month introduction for me.

-zing

Ricker
04-02-06, 19:47
Very well put amigo ... you can apply this synopsis all over the world.

Mel365
04-03-06, 03:39
Could someone give me driving directions to the places in Phillipsburg and the places outside of Phillipsburg.

Seamans, Carolines?

Thanks

Mel365
04-03-06, 05:13
Please explain the abbreviations.

Thanks,

Sailormon

Routard
04-03-06, 12:55
Thanks a lot Zing23 for your excellent reportings during those first 6 months.
We all can't wait reading your future reports about the next steps in mongering life. And remember, I made you an offer to make some of those steps together...

Zing23
04-03-06, 17:47
Please explain the abbreviations.

Thanks,

Sailormon

Click the link at the top of the page that says Abbreviations
(bbbJ = bare back blow job, FS = full service)

Zing23
04-03-06, 17:48
Could someone give me driving directions to the places in Phillipsburg and the places outside of Phillipsburg.

Seamans, Carolines?

Thanks

Go back to Lesser Antilles section and click on Reports of Distinction.
Directions, maps, pictures, everything you need is there. nothing has
changed since then. zing

Zing23
04-03-06, 21:10
Thanks a lot Zing23 for your excellent reportings during those first 6 months.
We all can't wait reading your future reports about the next steps in mongering life.

On my last time at Defiance, I entered to see 3 chicas talking to a very old man, perhaps 84 years old.

Then the man walks across the bar toward the rooms, a beautiful, young Columbian chica steadying his arm so he won't fall down.

Now that is an old age worth looking forward to (and that girl had a perfect body, a beautiful face, and is a very nice person as well).

-zing

Aeroplayer
04-04-06, 05:09
Just had a quick trip to St Maarten, and as I was staying just down the street from Platinum, had to go check it out. As reported, girls are all beautiful. 20-30 a night, almost all from Ukraine, Romania or Czech Rep. Found one from Venezuela (Barbara) with huge inflato-titties..:-)

Anyway, they are friendly, but fairly aggressive in trying to get you to buy them a drink. Beers are $6 for you, $8 for them - (they get $2), and heavily selling a private dance in the back - Nude for (only) one song for $30. There are always two dancing on stage, but they only get topless. I opted to just be friendly and watch, but my buddy finally caved in and took a dance, but he was disappointed, as it was so short.

They are all on a 90-day Visa deal, and have to go back after that. Several had done stints in either Canada or Japan doing similar work, sending the money home. SOme also spent it, as one girl had a car, and another bragged of several high-end watches ( which may have been gifts)...Anyway, interesting and fun to talk to - they all knew pretty good english, and were almost without exception 7-10's.

I asked one girl if she would like to go out on her off time and she readily agreed to dinner my next visit, but didn't get so far as to ask about sex - I'm so shy.

Will let you know.

Chris H
04-10-06, 04:24
Need a little help guys. I am trying to book a room at the Soualiga Guestroom, but I have had no luck trying to contact them. E-mail address does not work, and can't call international. I really don't have to stay here, but I would like to stay close to the action. If anyone could help me, it would be very much appreciated. I a, looking to be on the island this coming weekend, April 15-16th. Thanks in advnce for the help.

Chris H

Jan Chris
04-11-06, 03:01
I stayed there.

Why is it that you can't call international? You must be able to do it from your mobile or any booth where you are located. Their number is : +599 542 0077. Sorry that I can't help you as I am leaving myself on vaccation tommorrow.

But here is what I think : if you are looking for a cheap solution which will allow you not to pay an expensive hotel and rent a car, Soualiga is the best oneI know. But there are two drawbacks : A) it is not VERY close to Carolina/Seaman's, and during the night you should take the main street (not the dirt road leading to Petit Chateau) which means a 25 minutes walk. During day time, the dirt road seems reasonably safe, and you'll need only 15 minutes. B) the rooms are VERY basic, just like the ones of the girls although you would have a private bathroom. There is a Subway salad bar nearby and internet cafes on the street. I will not do it again, it is too basic for me.

I have been told that the hotel near Carolina can rent some rooms. It is called Blue Star Hotel but I have no number (the card I was given is in my office). The entrance is just in the Carolina bar (the left door) while the chicas have their rooms on the right. Isolated, but a good solution if you plan a "fuck/sleep/fuck/sleep" sort of thing. I'd like to try this one at least once.

Anyway, we are now in the low season. I am quite sure that Soualiga will have some rooms available. Keep in mind that you have to pay them in cash.

Chris H
04-11-06, 05:03
Once again will be on the island this weekend, April 15th, and leaving on Sunday the 16th. My flight will get there around 12 non, and I will have 24 hours for some pure pleasure. If any fellow mongers will be around this weekend, PM and maybe we can find a place to meet so we can drink and fund some lovely ladies.

Still searching for a room near the action, if anyone can help.


Chris H

Jan Chris
04-12-06, 01:20
Chris H,

My previous post refers.Blue Sky hotel contact number are : Tel : +690-580-4000 / Fax : +690-542-0292 / E-mail : [Email Address deleted by Admin]
I have not seen the rooms, but I would expect them to be basic. Nor do I know their tarifs. I presume that it should be quite noisy, so you'd better have the same sort of schedule as the chicas. This would leave you the day to go to the beach in Philipsburg taking the shortcut where there are some activities.

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Jan Chris
04-12-06, 01:32
I would like to "publicly" congratulate Routard and Zing23 for their excellent reports in this forum. Routard has been very helpful for me to find the places and the nearby accomodations. Zing23 last remarks are very interesting and I agree with most of them.

If I may add my own thoughts :

1. All the chicas I have met are financially VERY interested. Whatever they may feel/say they feel for you, their priority is to finish their contract. Even if you are a rich and handsome man, they are here because they want to be independent financially when returning to Colombia. One of them was very honest with me and told she was not starving, she had enough money to have her implants, etc. She just wanted to have MORE money. There are two consequences :

2. Most of them will try to have you as a "regular" customer. They know you can't have sex more than X times a day, so it is their interest that you become "faithful" to them. One of the advantage, though, is that she will get more comfortable with you and likely to give a better service (see point 5 hereafter). Most of them will expect you to see a different girl each time. A soon as you get acquainted with one of them more than one time, she gets the impression that you are a different guy and she will double her efforts for you to visit her exclusively, and develop every possible strategy evoked by Zing, like jalousy, fake orgasm (refer to point 6) or love.

3. If you fall in love with one of them, you are a fool (and I am a Fool ...) : basically, you will have very little chance to build a serious relationship. At least because both of you will have a distorted image of the other (you as a sexual obssesive client, her as a "puta"). Usually, a love relation will start by discussing, knowing each other, then kissing and making love. It is a big challenge to do it the other way round.

4. I have never seen a chica speaking really good english, most of them are quite uneducated by western standards, which does not mean that they are unintelligent. I have come to the conclusion that the Colombian education system must be really bad... If you speak good spanish, it mkes her more comfortable and you can be very precise with your requests, including particular service like the following.

5. I have rarely seen a chica kissing with tongue the first time. But it happens. I have also few experiences with some of them doing it after you see them few times. Some will definitely never do it.

6. Fake orgasm? Maybe I am presumptous. But I had an experience with one of them I invited for the night who had a small orgasm although she was telling me she did not like it because she was getting exhausted and could not afford it with all her clients. Another one which had an orgasm and could hardly support me continuing to move in order to have mine afterwards, because she had become very sensitive. Otherwise, I will assume all others are fake. But that does not necessarily means she does not feel anything or do not like it.

Try these :

- ask them : "Do you fake with me?" and see how she replies and use you
intuition to see if she lies.

- fake youself and see what happens : tell her it was a fake and see her
Reaction.

- hide your orgasm, she'll be surprised.

To make it short : play the same sex-game using her own rules and let her know afterwards. It should add spices and create some complicity and a more rewarding and frank relation if you want to see her regularly. I have also found out that, like in every relationship, if you express how much you are happy with her and/or look constantly in her eyes, she will like it because she will feel that she is not only a sex object but a little bit more than that.

Just some toughts of a not very experienced nor good lover.

Chris H
04-12-06, 04:13
JC,

Thanks for the info. I will try to stay at Blue Star hotel, since it is right next to the action. I am trying to stay cheap since I will only be there for 24 hours. Thanks again for the info!!


Chris H

Jan Chris
04-13-06, 01:08
Chris H,

I think that will be interested to share your experience in this forum when you come back since you'll be the first one to try this "hotel". I'd be curious to know their tarifs and the state of the rooms.

Bachlur
04-14-06, 05:16
Sorry I didn't follow up on my last post (1/13/06) but life has been crazy. I have been able to read every post since then, so that helps. JC, excellent post on 4/11. I'm right there with you brother. Anyways, I leave a week from today, and I'll be there for 10 (hopefully) action-packed days and nights. I was wondering what the status of Le Petit is at this point. Are they back to their normal place, or is the rumor true that they are all trying to fit into Defiance? Any other brothel tips/updates? In case I don't get a chance to write before leaving, I just wanna say that Zing and Routard are the shit!! Because of your wisdom, I almost feel ready for this trip :o) I'll keep watching the posts on here. Take care gentlemen.

Zing23
04-15-06, 00:57
Sorry I didn't follow up on my last post (1/13/06) but life has been crazy. I have been able to read every post since then, so that helps. JC, excellent post on 4/11. I'm right there with you brother. Anyways, I leave a week from today, and I'll be there for 10 (hopefully) action-packed days and nights. I was wondering what the status of Le Petit is at this point. Are they back to their normal place, or is the rumor true that they are all trying to fit into Defiance? Any other brothel tips/updates? In case I don't get a chance to write before leaving, I just wanna say that Zing and Routard are the shit!! Because of your wisdom, I almost feel ready for this trip :o) I'll keep watching the posts on here. Take care gentlemen.

the day after the fire le petit was open with the burnt out rooms closed off and a crew rebuilding them. 3 girls were working at defiance, the rest still wrking at le petit. so basically, no real change in operations.

good luck


-zing

Gntlman Mongr
04-17-06, 06:58
I went to Carolinas club last week with the map provided by Zing23 posted 11-9-05. Thanks, great map. I walked there from the cruise ship I was on. It is straight through the island in the middle of the great salt pond. I walked past the La Petite Chateau on the way but it did not look like much. Not many girls or anyone else for that matter. It was about 11:00 in the morning. It was OK during the day but I would not want to do it after dark. You walk past the local garbage dump and it is not in a very good part of town. I walked all the way down to the cross street at the top of the pond and did not see it. I have enclosed a picture as it does not quite look the part of a bordello and there were no signs on the place. The entrance is on the left side.

Once inside there were many girls. mostly in their early twenties. Mostly blond young and from Columbia. A dark young thing came up to me and asked if I wanted some company and I sent her away I had just got there and wanted to peruse the situation. There had to be at least twenty girls and thirty guys. Most of the girls were still available and I was eying a couple of the blonds standing in the middle of the bar area. I put my priorities in order and went to the end of the bar and ordered a beer. As I was standing there I was noticing that the one that first approached me had a short skirt on and had an exquisite ass and was wearing just a g-string. She wandered past me again and I couldn't resist fondling that exquisite thing. She obliged and backed up into my hand. After a few minutes she took my other hand and put it up under her top. She started lightly kissing and biting me and at that point I was hooked. Her name was Karen I think she was 22Yo. and from Columbia. She said she had been their only two weeks. This is from memory as my PDA lost it's memory and all my notes. At least I did not lose the pictures in my camera. I asked her if she wanted to go back to her room and she said I had to pay the guy at the bar $3. and with the beer I bought her it came to about $7.

Her English was relatively good. But we spoke mostly in Spanish. I spoke to most of the girls in Spanish I think they enjoyed this. I found that most of the girls spoke fairly good English and I found some at Defiance that liked to Salsa Dance and they were very surprised that I could dance better then they could. I was very popular there.

The rooms seem to be assigned to the girls as she had personal things in it and it had a connected bathroom. Before our session we cleaned up in the bathroom and then we laid down on the bed naked as we got started. I was a little confused and I stopped and asked her if she wanted any money. She said $40. I got up and gave her the money. I am not sure if she forgot or it is customary to ask at the end. (I had a session at Seamans Club later that night and the girl asked for the money and set a timer up front a very different experience). After our session she asked if I wanted a back rub and I kept telling her that all I wanted to do was lie around and caress that wonderful body of hers. After lying around for about an hour I asked if I could get a picture of her and she obliged and then I asked if I could get one of her with her clothes on and we got dressed. Afterwards I gave her a $10. tip and as we were heading for the door she turned around and started kissing me again an then knelt down and undid my pants and started blowing me again. I got very week in the knees and had to sit back down on the bed and the next thing I knew we were going for it again. It took me a little longer the second time as I hadn't completely recharged my batteries. Afterwards I gave her another $40. for the second session. She had not asked for anything and I not sure she would have but I enjoyed my afternoon so much. It would have felt very bad later if I had not. It was not that hot in her room there was sort of a cooler in it. We did not head out of the room until almost 3:00. It was such a great feeling to just lie around all afternoon with this young thing in my arms and screwing all afternoon. When we finally did leave I was somewhat dizzy.

Out front I bought her another beer and she asked if I could give the bartender another $3. as we had gone over our hour an if I didn't pay she would have to. I graciously paid.

When we went back out to the bar the place was empty. She told me that the place ebbs and flows with the arrival and departures of the cruise ships. One of the ships must have been leaving..

As my ship wasn't going to leave until midnight I had more exploring to do. So I wandered over to Seamens a very short distance away but did not stay as I saw some tourists on motor scooters and grabbed a taxi that he took me back to the marina and I rented a scooter. Turned out to be a great way to visit the clubs.


More later,

Gntlman Mongr

Holden Caulfield
04-19-06, 05:29
I'm on my way here and some other Carib spots. From what I know of real estate, St. Maarten is major bucks. Can some of you describe costs of beer, restaurants, etc. It just is striking me as a very expensive island. I'd love to hear opinions.

Mel365
04-23-06, 00:30
I will be in sxm April 28 -April 30 and can not find a room for those nights -seems to be a holiday-carnivale. Any ideas? I tried holland house but they are booked.

Thanks

Sailormon

Zing23
04-25-06, 21:38
I'm on my way here and some other Carib spots. From what I know of real estate, St. Maarten is major bucks. Can some of you describe costs of beer, restaurants, etc. It just is striking me as a very expensive island. I'd love to hear opinions.

st maarten is not terribly expensive. rooms range from 35 Euros a night in a simple french hotel in concordia neighborhood of marigot to $450 a night at La Samanna (one of the most prestigous hotels). Mid-price tourist hotels range from $100 to $200 a night. Compared to nearby Anguilla and St Barts, this is a bargain. Compared to Domincan Republic, it may seem expensive. One night I was unexpectedly stuck in St maarten and found a room at the Great Bay Casino and Hotel in Phillipsburg (big tourist hotel on the beach) for $83/nt.

Restaurant prices on the french side are very reasonable - Tropicana in Marina Royale of Marigot is one of the best - lunch special is around 12 euros. Lots of good mid-priced restaurants such as Saint-Severin in Bellevue, where local french people eat (even french truck drivers demand good food). I have not found any restaurants on the dutch side that I can really recommend for good food (although there must be some!) - think us-style vacation food.

People in the neighboring islands all come to st maarten to shop - prices are lower than in anguilla, st barts, saba or statia, due to larger businesses with bigger volumes.

Beers at the brothels are only $2, versus $1.50 at other local places and up to $4 at tourist places.

-zing

Routard
04-27-06, 16:02
I had spent several weeks alone in several « sex prisons » (just check one of my reports in the Saint Vincent thread). When I arrived in Saint Maarten, I haven’t had sex for nearly…, I’m too ashamed to say this on a sex forum! Needless to say, this was an emergency situation. Each woman in the street was for me a walking pussy. I arrived in Carolinas before opening time. There was only one chica at the bar, Valentina, room 3. She seemed to have a very nice personality, but I simply couldn’t see the person in her. We went straight to the room to release the pressure. I’m ashamed, I hardly remember anything of her, even her face. I left Carolina, had a few things to do in Pillipsburg and made a general survey of the brothels in the early afternoon. Hereafter a quick Sint Maarten update.

LE PETIT CHATEAU : About 10 Colombianas and Dominicanas in the 4-6 range. Action is always slow during daytime.

DEFIANCE: Similar to le Petit Chateau as they are sister clubs. Both sell Viagra at the bar, but pills are not sealed, so I will not recommend it.

SUNSET RETREAT: Action only during the evening, so I didn’t checked it. Usually selection is poor.

CRISTAL: Even if it is at 10m opposite Carolina, I don’t bother anymore to have a look inside, as there are usually just a few uninteresting girls.

CASABLANCA: I don’t bother anymore to drive till Casablanca, I have never liked that Club, even if it is the biggest with over 30 Dominicanas in the evening. Atmosphere is much more aggressive, and I don’t like the attitude of the girls.

SEAMENS CLUB: about 25 Colombianas in the 5-7 range. Atmosphere is always excellent as usual. Nice music, a lot of interaction with the chicas, and friendly customers from mixed origin. I discussed with a few seamen to compare our info about action in the Caribbean.

CAROLINA: About 25 girls all in the 8-7 range with even a few 8+. They select definitely only the better looking girls. Girls have all excellent attitude, as their working conditions are the best of all brothels. Facilities are the best by far, nice clean rooms with AC and private bathroom. The bar, restaurant and hotel lobby have TV available with South American channels. There is even a beauty parlor. Girls are allowed to exit the Club in the morning till 11am as well as between 4pm and 6pm without exit fee. The brothel has even hotel rooms for the customers at 50$/night. One year ago, this Club was hardly known and there were few customers. It is now by far the best Club of Sint Maarten. The positive reviews on ISG since one year have probably something to do with it. Anyway, Carolina deserves it.

Needless to say, I decided to stay in Carolina. As soon as I was at the bar, a chica came to me, Alejandra room 13. She smiled and had a very nice face. Usually I get rid of the girls coming to me as they are mostly the ugly barracudas that need to be active to get a chance to catch a customer. But I have also a few positive experiences of nice girls coming to me just because they are selective and prefer to choose a customer they fancy. I offered her a drink, and there seemed to be a good chemistry, so I guessed that she could be from the second category. Sometimes I even felt I impressed her, she was maybe a bit shy. Anyway, I decided to give her a try. The session turned out to be very physical. I was still very horny, the sexual pressure was still not released, and this time it lasted much more longer. I knew I was asking a lot of energy from her, but she could deal with it. Boy, what a fuck! It was so good to find back the feelings of a woman’s body. When I finally came, I nearly cried. I thanked her for what she gave to me. She smiled and was proud of her performance.

Back to the bar, she didn’t want to leave me and stayed with me. I usually want to try different girls, but I was so grateful to her for making me again a human being. I offered her a drink and discussed together. The sexual pressure was released, I was again a perfect gentleman. She was from Bogota. I told her I was planning a trip to Colombia, and asked her about the nightlife in Bogota. She gave me the names of a few famous nightclubs, but then I asked what was her favorite places. She said that she preferred different places, as she liked salsa music. I said that it was exactly what I was looking for, as I was a true salsa aficionado. We had a nice discussion about salsa, she told me that she won a salsa dancing contest. We looked together on the PC jukebox of the club and programmed a few songs. We started to dance. I had to adapt my academic Cuban style on her more natural Colombian style. I then showed her a few Cuban figures, and gave the names of the figures. She was impressed, and asked me to learn her those figures. Yes, I was giving salsa dancing lessons to a Latina chica! After a while it went quiet smoothly, but she asked for mercy. She was exhausted and we took a drink together. Things were not the same anymore. Her eyes were glued to me, and she definitely didn’t want to leave me. She gave me her personal phone number in Sint Maarten and in Colombia, explained me that she had no boyfriend there also and that I could call anytime. She offered me to go back to her room listening music, as it would be more convenient and intimate than in the bar. She said that we could even dance naked! It sounded OK to me, a kind of private FKK.

Once in the room, she put some music and started a private lap dance. She undressed me also, and we went together in the shower and washed each other. She offered me a nice massage followed by a body body massage. We played together for an hour naked in bed without condom. She was completely relaxed and secured. I could do anything, DFK, DATY, fingering, rubbing my dick to her butt and even to her pussy…she just didn’t come up with a condom, I’m pretty sure she was expecting bare back sex. But I finally asked for a condom. The previous session was not that long ago, so I just didn’t want to come. We had sex in every imaginable position. What a stamina! She had an orgasm, but I can’t tell for sure if it was faked or not. All in all, we had spent four hours together including three showers, massage, two pops, and total damage…100$.

I'm nearly ready to stop having sex for a while again, just to revive those magical moments.

Rack Addikt
04-27-06, 19:49
If anyone could post (as complete as possible) a list of all brothels on the Dutch-side of the island it would certainly assist in streamlining my efforts as I and 4 other Latin men prepare for a 4-day Bachelor Party Extravaganza weekend in St. Maarten. We told the wives we're going Bone Fishing, which isn't a "complete" lie. I've already scoured the forums and have a map with 7 spots on it, and 5 images of some of the clubs. In return for the info, (when I get back) I will post an updated map of every location we hit and pictures of each establishment. Thanks in advance.

I'll also post ratings, now (mind you) I live in a city where 10's fall off of trees - literally, and on South Beach there are more models per square inch than anywhere else on the planet, but I'll try to remain realistic.

Rack Addikt

Miami

Zing23
04-28-06, 11:43
If anyone could post (as complete as possible) a list of all brothels on the Dutch-side of the island it would certainly assist in streamlining my efforts as I and 4 other Latin men prepare for a 4-day Bachelor Party Extravaganza weekend in St. Maarten.

See the reports of Distinction (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426807&postcount=3)

- what you are missing is mainly Routard's excellent summary of st maarten. (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50)

-zing

Zing23
04-28-06, 13:56
She started lightly kissing and biting me and at that point I was hooked. Her name was Karen I think she was 22Yo. and from Columbia.

Gntlman Mongr

Thanks for the report. I thought that your picture of Karen looked a bit familiar, so I went into Carolina yesterday to find her (after a 3 week trip away from the St Maarten area).

Surprise, my regular favorite Viviana (see long ago post by Pogostick about black-haired beauty) was still there! I have said goodbye to this chica twice already - once in January when her 3-month stay was up (but she stayed another 3 months!) and once again in early April. Turns out there was some problem with her ticket on Aeropostal and now she was trying to get home on Avianca. The SPanish was too fast for me, but I also got the idea that her baggage was too big because she had collected so many gifts from admirers in St Maarten! She might leave for Columbia next week...


Later, I did see Karen sitting with some hombres and received a wave - I remember her from an earlier conversation in March. Has a good twinkle in her eye.

When I walked into Seamans, 3 girls called out my name, so I had to go sit with them.

I am in the midst of an interesting long-term experiment at Seamans: when my 3-month favorite Alexandra left, she set me up with Juliana, who she said was "muy simpatico" (very friendly). I wondered how one chica would know which other chica I would like (did she interview her about various services?). I also wondered if she had auctioned me off to the highest bidder. Juliana was a completely different physical type from Alexandra.

But I decided to trust Alexandra's judgement and went wholeheartedly with Juliana - with excellent results. What Alexandra had done was sift through
the sharks ("tiburon" in spanish) and find me a chica with a good attitude.
After 6 enjoyable weeks, Juliana returned to Columbia. Before she left and I left for vacation, she introduced me to Louisa - who she recommended to take over! Louisa was again completely different physically with large natural breasts, but Juliana assured me that she was muy simpatico.

Since Juliana and I left St Maarten about the same time, I never got to visit Louisa. But she was in the group of 3 chicas that called my name. She reminded me of Juliana's recommentation, but I remembered her also. She had been disappointed that I never came to see her after Juliana left. After 30 minutes sitting on my lap, chatting, getting to know each other, and fending off other chicas, I invited her to go to the room (#19).

Again - excellent results! Lush body, but very fit. As I gave her a back massage, she rested her head on my thigh and started playing with me. After a short lecture about how BBBJ was mal for her, but bueno for me, she proceeded to a really good BBBJ. Then lots of kisses and enthusiastic DFK and DATY (I think she enjoyed it and she did ask for more and I liked that she didn't pretend to climax). CFS in lots of positions, some of which appeared to be for her pleasure. I left her with a small gift (cute stuffed animal) and $40 and she walked me to the car.

So far, the experiment of following chica recommendations is working well.

-zing

Rack Addikt
05-01-06, 22:25
Map Updated (05/02/06) - Thanks, Zing23!

I'll update this map based on personal eyewitness accounts of my upcoming visit. Thought others might find this handy.

Rack Addikt

Zing23
05-02-06, 12:02
I'll update this map based on personal eyewitness accounts of my upcoming visit. Thought others might find this handy. If someone could plot where "Cats" is located, I'd appreciate it.

Rack Addikt

Cats is located on Arch Road, which is the road that runs from Seamans to
Carolina and around the salt pond. on your map, Cats is about where the little black symbol that looks like an "S" is located.

Also for your map, Golden Eyes strip club is located on the road to the airport, at the point where the land between the lagoon and the sea is the narrowest on your map. For findng Golden Eyes, it is on the right side of the road, just past the drawbridge that lets boats into the lagoon.

-zing

Zing23
05-05-06, 19:46
This is carnival week. Yesterday, girls at Carolina and Seamans told me that business has been very slow (since many potential customers are partying at carnival events). Viviana did get taken out of Carolina to the Latin music and dance show of Carnival last weekend (yes, she is still at Carolina rm 1, negotiating with Avianca to fly her home to Columbia). She showed me videos of the show and her client on her cellphone.

Patricia at Defiance proudly showed me her photos of several outings to the beach (Orient Bay and Great Bay) and a boating trip from Marigot. These were made with two amgos, an Italian and a Dutchman. They looked like typical ISG guys: mid-thirties to mid-forties, ok looking. Obviously fun-loving!

Lesson: I suppose the risk is low, but don't assume that any photos taken by a chica are private. Given that there are Internet cafes about every 100 yards in South America, it shouldn't be long until there is an ISCG web site "International Sex Client Guide" where chicas post reports on good and bad clients, with their pictures!

-zing

P.S. Then Patricia pulled out her new digital camera and snapped a shot of me and had me take numerous pictures of her cute bush (I guess she likes seeing herself from a new angle).

P.P.S. Louisa from Periera (Seamans rm 19) didn't show me any photos, but she gave me one of the best BBBJ ever. After about an hour in her room, another guy knocked on the door for a visit just as we finished dressing and were preparing to leave - good timing guy. (You can go back to the girl's room early in the day at Seamans, but remember that she might be busy - if so, she will yell out "Occupado".)

P.P.P.S. I ran into Sharon from Tullua Columbia (Defiance rm 205) at the Phillispburg Pharmacy. She was filling a prescription, escorted by a client whose grasp of Spanish was obviously minimal, but who no doubt had a car. This is the frist time I have ever seen a chica by acident outside of the brothel. But she did not make eye contact or let anyone guess she knew me (of course she noticed me, didn't she? we had a life changing encounter last month).

Routard
05-06-06, 19:57
This is the frist time I have ever seen a chica by acident outside of the brothel.

It happened to me several times, especially in Pillipsburg before 11am, when the chicas are allowed to exit the club without fee. In fact, each time I see a pretty young unknown latina walking along the road in the morning, I stop to offer her a ride. Outside the brothels the girls don't have the same attitude. They keep a low profile, are very polite, sometimes even shy, as I act also different outside the brothels. It makes me quiete horny picking up a girl as I'm not sure whether she's a working girl or not and whether I will be able or not to fuck her later. And It's very funny when later she meets me again in the brothel, discovering that I'm also not that serious guy she believed I was!

Routard

Rack Addikt
05-09-06, 15:26
I just got back, unfortunately a "Homeland Security" scanner wiped out all of my photos, but after I collect my thoughts, I'll post an updated map, reviews for each club, and also report an "attempted mugging" on my group at Sunset Retreat. I also talk about the amazing "Todo La Noches".

(Update)
OK, Where do I strart? Well let's start with the 3 Strip Clubs (and nothing more than stripping)
The Platinum Room - Elite touristy club near the Maho Bay Beach Resort, 8s, 9s and 10s, but "untouchable".
Golden Eyes - touristy club above Rick's Restaurant on the strip near the airport, much like a cheesy U.S. Strip Club.
Player's Club - touristy club and last buiding on the strip leading away from the airport, another Cheese Factory.
Since we weren't here very long we chose not to waste time at these clubs.

*** Brothels good for nooners (10AM until 12PM) but not recommended for evening visits due to heavy local population and wannabe hoodlums.

Le Petite Chateau - dark dive, few girls, the locals threw rocks at my rental car as I was driving by at night. Located on a very rocky salt flat in the middle of Great Bay Salt Pond, north of Philipsburg and the University of St. Martin.
Crystal Club - absolute waste of time (across the street from Carolina's)
Carolina's - Good selection for a nooner, at night there is heavy local traffic, 8-10 hispanic girls, 5s, 6s, and a couple of 7s.

*** Elite Clubs good for nooners, evenings and TLNs (todo la noches - all nighters)

The Seaman's Club - 10 to 15 girls, 7s, 8s and a couple of 9s. The only airconditioned club we found. $50, rooms in a separate, but very close building just behind the club. TLN was $260 at 8:30PM, but we came back just before closing (2:00AM) and talked 4 girls down to $200 each.

Defiance Hotel - 10 to 15+ girls, 6s, 7s, and a couple of 8s. No A/C, you will sweat heavily dispite the fans. $45, rooms located behind the stage area. TLNs were $300 and non-negotiable; they must've thought we were loaded.

*** Decent Clubs good for nooners, evening and TLNs.

Casa Blanca - 20 to 30 Dominican girls, 5s, 6s, and a few 7s. No A/C, $45 for 25 minutes, $90 for 50 minutes, rooms are downstairs, in a prison-like area, you slip the money to a cashier through a small hole in a flexglass booth and the cashier hands the chica a key to open the steel-gated door - creepy.

***BEWARE***BEWARE***BEWARE***
Sunset Retreat - the first night we saw heavy local traffic, people hanging out in the parking lot and we just drove by. The second night we thought "Screw it, we're going anyway." Being a former Marine, I immediately went into recon mode and here were my observations.
Upon arrival, 4 locals that were getting into a car to leave, saw us and hesitated. The reverse lights went on to back up, then imediately off, and they just sat there. We exited our rental, and all four of us walked up the stone steps to the club. The club was actually quite decent, a group of girls quickly huddled together and paired up with all four of us. I managed to attract an 8. Moments later, the four locals from the parking lot entered the club again and each sat in a chair directly (10-15 feet) behind each one of us. For a second, I thought it was a coincidence, but then I saw two of them using hand signals to point out which one they were going to take out.
I immediately (and quietly) informed my friends, but one was already on the way to a room with a gorgeous 8 of his own. So the 3 of us stayed at the bar and waited for him to finish. I non-chalantly watched the door to the rooms to ensure no unaccompanied men went in, and the other two kept watch for a any unexpected movements and/or reaching in pockets from the 4 idiots behind us. We were ready, but not overly obvious. My chica noticed that I was not happy. She asked what was wrong. I told her (en Espanol) that I felt uneasy about others here, and asked if this place was "peligroso" dangerous. She said not in the club, but outside the club things happen. My friend finished, we grouped up and departed together without incident. In all likelihood, since we made it perfectly clear we knew what they were up to, we may have turned a "gimme" into a confrontation they didn't particularly want to engage in.

Just today I found out that recently, in St. Maarten, a gay tourist was bludgened with a tire iron to within an inch of his life and has permanent brain damage. Of course that doesn't particularly have anything to do with our situation, but the point is... violence exists.

Guys, be aware, don't get too drunk that you can't pay attention and don't look like you have much money. Flashing a wad of hundreds to pay for a $2 Presidente is asking for it.

Tomorrow I will report on our 4 on 4, interchangeable Todo la Noche.
Note: TLNs are not good for closely supervised hotels, hotels with 24-hour lobbies, or accomodations that charge extra for additional guests.

Routard
05-10-06, 13:06
Thanks a lot Rack Addict for your report, can't wait for your TLN report too. Sorry to hear you also you had some bad experience. However I think it was most unlikely that those guys were planning to attack a group of four men, epecially if you tell me that you were a former marine. And at least not inside the brothel. There are easier targets. The guys could have been pickpockets however.

Security issues in brothels and in Sint Maarten have allready been discussed before. Security feeling are very personal feeling, so everybody will experience it in a different way, as everybody will compare it to his own situation at home.

However the chica gave the exact answer. Inside the brothels it's 100% safe day and night. I know more or less some of the owners of these brothels, and believe me, they will let nobody from Sint Maarten mess up their business.

The parking lots of Seamens and Defiance are secluded and safe day and night. Carolina is a very discrete brothel as well as the parking lot, day and night. The parking lots from Petit Chateau and especially Sunset Retreat on the other side of the road are not secured, no problem by day, but things may happen by night (like the chica said). I have mixed feelings about the Casa Blanca parking lot by night, but no problem by day of course.

For the rest of Sint Maarten, I will put apart the internal crime and especially the one involving drugdealing. Sint Maarten is safe for tourists. I stick to my opinion. Crime against tourism is seldom, and the few times it happen, you will hear from it in the local news. It's nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of tourists that visit each year Sint Maarten without any problem.

I have always lived everywhere around the world and being part of a white minority. But I can understand that some people coming from the US feel unconfortable when they are in a black neighbourhood. I realized this when somebody mentioned about bad guys haging around the parking lot in Seamen's. In fact those guys are there every night. They indeed have a "Bronx" look, but they are just the taxi drivers waiting for customers. Also inside the brothels there are lots of locals, especially by night. But believe me, they are more interested in the chicas then about you. I have never experienced any agressive attitude from a local in a brothel. Have a relaxed attitude, say hello when entering, make a small joke with one of them, and he will most probably offer you a beer. Relax, you are in the Caribbean!

Of course like everywhere in the world, usual precautions need to be taken. I have never had any problem even in some of the most dangerous countries in the world. I have been robbed only once, it was in one of the safest coutry in the world, simply because I forgot my usual precautions.

And if security is a major concern, try all the brothels by day. By night, stick to the safest only, Seamens and Carolina.

Zing23
05-10-06, 15:18
I just got back,... I also talk about the amazing "Todo La Noches".


Thanks for the report - of course we still await the TLN report.

I noticed yesterday that there were no cruise ships in the Phillipsburg harbor,
and only one cruise ship on several recent days. In April there were many days with 3 or 4 cruise ships and the brothels were packed during the day time.

I think that it is now the end of the busy tourist season (Nov-Apr). Few cruise ships and fewer visitors at the hotels and resorts.

Most of the girls that arrived from Columbia in Feb are now gone (they are on 3 month visas) and I wonder about their replacement. I would expect the brothels to cut back on the number of girls they import during the off season, as they won't have as many tourist and cruise ship crew as customers. But when I started visiting the brothels last september (the most dead month for visitors, due to it being the peak of hurricane season) there seemed like a lot of girls at the clubs, most not very busy.

I will keep an eye on the quantity and quality of summer chicas and report here what I discover.

-zing

Rack Addikt
05-10-06, 18:17
Before embarking on a TLN the 5 W's must first be addressed.

Who? What? When? Where? Why?

Step 1:"Who?"

It would be a good idea (although a little time consuming) to tour each club individually to draft the right girl(s). Doing this between 10A-12P is safe, but may not guarantee that she's working that evening. We started at 8:00PM.
Select a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft pick. Getting all 4 girls from the same club simplified the process, but we could have likely done 2 and 2.

Step 2: "What?"

Make your intentions perfectly clear. A TLN for one guy is self-explanatory. TLNs for multiple girls would lead to the assumption that each guy has a different room. TLNs for multiple girls in a 2/3/4 bedroom suite is still a safe assumption. But TLNs that swap rooms every 1 1/2 hours in 2 adjoining 2-bedroom suites is tricky. We made our intentions relatively clear at the club, and they likely thought we were kidding. We grabbed a bottle of KettleOne and some Cranberry Juice on the way to the Suite, and had at least 2 drinks in each of them before we got to the (secluded, quiet) suite. We listened to some Reggaeton, talked, laughed and got drinks #3, 4 in them and jokingly offered a $30 propina (tip) for each additional room visited. When I pulled out the wallet, and dropped 3 bills on each of them, they pretty much figured out that we were NOT kidding. For those keeping track: $200 each + 3 swaps at $30 each = $290 each. (plus a $10 bonus)

Step 3: "When?"

A nooner until 9:00AM the next day will cost alot, and may be ideally suited for lonely, lonely single guys who have never spent a day lugging a girl around. Add Lunch, Dinner and gifts to the tab my friends $$$.

Early evening 8:00PM until 9:00AM the next day would run from the $250s up.
This option might be good for Day 1 of a multiple day visit to knock the rust off.
Late Evening 2:00AM until 9:00AM did the trick for us. We drank like fish and went on a recruiting spree all night long.

This option is good to negotiate the lowest possible cost. They pretty much already made their money for the night, this is a BONUS.

Step 4: "Where?"

Most hotels frown on bringing "new friends" into the hotel. 4 and 5 star hotels do not want other guests seeing a bunch a guys lugging in their newly acquired acquaintanaces into the facility. Some prohibit it completely, some make you pay more for the new guests, and others don't care. I did the research and chose 2 adjoining 2 bedroom suites at MBBPH. I used the acronym on purpose, but most of you will figure it out quick. Do the research.

Step 5: "Why?"

Do I really need to explain why?

All in all we dropped $1200 ($200 TLN, $90 for 3 swaps, $10 bonus) x 4

We dropped them off at around 9:30AM, went straight back to the suite and crashed until almost 6PM, we only hit the Casinos that night. I'm still a little dehydrated and my back hurts alot, I honestly think I have a herneated disk. Tylenol helps, but alcohol works better.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Dubdub32
05-11-06, 20:25
Just wondering - I have heard at the Platinum that the girls ar looky looky only and do not oblige when asked -I will be Visiting soon and have Heard reports from friends who have visited recently (feb 06) that this is not so as most of the girls (if not all are from eastern europe) have worked in Europe/South Africa etc - I Know the cost is Hight 300 -500 USD - But this is my one time visit - August 06 - Any information would be kindly appreciated. Dubdub32

Drfunk
05-12-06, 01:52
Hi,

You guys have done an excellent job of providing info, maps , etc in this section. I have been to Campo Alegre(excellent) in Curacao and now I will be giving St. Maarten a try. I will definitely give a report or two while I am there.

Hey dub, I will make a play for some of these Platinum girls and see what happens. I'll be sure to let you know how it turns out.

Rack Addikt
05-12-06, 15:07
DrFunk, Dubdub.

I laid the Latin charm on extra heavy, and repeatedly flashed a wallet ripping at the seams with Hundreds and it was still a NO GO. The bouncer is a hawk, and my feeling is: The #1 stipulation for employment there is NOT to put out, ever! I'll go as far as saying, "Putting out may indeed by "health threatening" for the girls working there." I wouldn't try to put them in a situation that might get them in trouble.

Rack Addikt

Chris H
05-12-06, 20:35
so would you say it is safer for a black tourist to get around without having problems. I am black, and I did not feel in danger at all when I was on the island. i have also traveled many places, and never had a problem anywhere. But you do have to be cautious everywhere that you go.


Chris H

Holden Caulfield
05-13-06, 01:13
You are are the fu**in man. Isn't this kind of craziness what it is about?


Before embarking on a TLN the 5 W's must first be addressed.

Who? What? When? Where? Why?

Step 1:"Who?"

It would be a good idea (although a little time consuming) to tour each club individually to draft the right girl(s). Doing this between 10A-12P is safe, but may not guarantee that she's working that evening. We started at 8:00PM.
Select a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft pick. Getting all 4 girls from the same club simplified the process, but we could have likely done 2 and 2.

Step 2: "What?"

Make your intentions perfectly clear. A TLN for one guy is self-explanatory. TLNs for multiple girls would lead to the assumption that each guy has a different room. TLNs for multiple girls in a 2/3/4 bedroom suite is still a safe assumption. But TLNs that swap rooms every 1 1/2 hours in 2 adjoining 2-bedroom suites is tricky. We made our intentions relatively clear at the club, and they likely thought we were kidding. We grabbed a bottle of KettleOne and some Cranberry Juice on the way to the Suite, and had at least 2 drinks in each of them before we got to the (secluded, quiet) suite. We listened to some Reggaeton, talked, laughed and got drinks #3, 4 in them and jokingly offered a $30 propina (tip) for each additional room visited. When I pulled out the wallet, and dropped 3 bills on each of them, they pretty much figured out that we were NOT kidding. For those keeping track: $200 each + 3 swaps at $30 each = $290 each. (plus a $10 bonus)

Step 3: "When?"

A nooner until 9:00AM the next day will cost alot, and may be ideally suited for lonely, lonely single guys who have never spent a day lugging a girl around. Add Lunch, Dinner and gifts to the tab my friends $$$.

Early evening 8:00PM until 9:00AM the next day would run from the $250s up.
This option might be good for Day 1 of a multiple day visit to knock the rust off.
Late Evening 2:00AM until 9:00AM did the trick for us. We drank like fish and went on a recruiting spree all night long.

This option is good to negotiate the lowest possible cost. They pretty much already made their money for the night, this is a BONUS.

Step 4: "Where?"

Most hotels frown on bringing "new friends" into the hotel. 4 and 5 star hotels do not want other guests seeing a bunch a guys lugging in their newly acquired acquaintanaces into the facility. Some prohibit it completely, some make you pay more for the new guests, and others don't care. I did the research and chose 2 adjoining 2 bedroom suites at MBBPH. I used the acronym on purpose, but most of you will figure it out quick. Do the research.

Step 5: "Why?"

Do I really need to explain why?

All in all we dropped $1200 ($200 TLN, $90 for 3 swaps, $10 bonus) x 4

We dropped them off at around 9:30AM, went straight back to the suite and crashed until almost 6PM, we only hit the Casinos that night. I'm still a little dehydrated and my back hurts alot, I honestly think I have a herneated disk. Tylenol helps, but alcohol works better.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Jan Chris
05-14-06, 01:53
Hi,
You guys have done an excellent job of providing info, maps , etc in this section. I have been to Campo Alegre(excellent) in Curacao and now I will be giving St. Maarten a try. I will definitely give a report or two while I am there.


In the Curacao section, I have posted a "comparison chart" with St Maarteen.

Zing23
05-16-06, 13:01
In other words: treat them well, yes. Just make sure you don’t treat them too well.

Let me make one thing very clear here. I see a big difference between a “girlfriend experience” and a “girlfriend” experience. For me, the first one means that during the time you pay a GDP, she treats you (i.e. pretends to act) like an actual GF (e.g. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, among other things that are normally not associated with professional girls in many places), but once time is up, she leaves (and leaves you alone). You will get a “girlfriend” experience, on the other hand, once you or the girl somewhat lose sight of the actual circumstances and somehow start believing that you are, indeed, GF and BF, and start acting like that. In that case, you are most likely in for a very troublesome spell, with different measures of jealousy, possessiveness, and mind games thrown in. To say nothing of vicious fights and other goodies. ...


In this great post, Treating the Girls Just Right (and Not Too Well), (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2192&page=2&pp=15) EA is talking about the Copa girls in Brazil and how they can make your life miserable when they decide they are your real girlfriend. EA mentioned that this GDP craziness was not typical of Brazil, but limited to Copa.

The GDP desire to move from GFE to possessive GF may be world wide, but is moderated in other locations by circumstances that limit the girl's power.

In St Maarten (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1844), where I hobby, the client has all the power. The chica is far from home (Columbia or Dom Rep), the chica has to go home after 3 months work, the chica's ability to leave the club is limited, and the chica doesn't usually speak the local language (which is English). There are 7 legal brothels and the chica knows few people outside her club.

So she may throw a small fit of possessiveness in the club, but you always know it can only go so far. In the worst situation, eventually she will go back to Columbia!

-zing

(Cross-posted to Rio-2006 thread.)

Zing23
05-18-06, 12:56
each time I see a pretty young unknown latina walking along the road in the morning, I stop to offer her a ride. Outside the brothels the girls don't have the same attitude. They keep a low profile, are very polite, sometimes even shy, as I act also different outside the brothels. It makes me quiete horny picking up a girl as I'm not sure whether she's a working girl or not and whether I will be able or not to fuck her later. And It's very funny when later she meets me again in the brothel, discovering that I'm also not that serious guy she believed I was!
Routard

I had another session with Sharon at Defiance yesterday (rm 205), the chica that I spotted at the pharmacy. She laughed and asked, "did you see me at the farmacia?" She noticed me, but kept her eyes cast down and ignored me on purpose. Quite demure, which is funny, because in the club and in the room she is quite outrageous.

-zing

Zing23
05-28-06, 12:55
I think that it is now the end of the busy tourist season (Nov-Apr). Few cruise ships and fewer visitors at the hotels and resorts. Most of the girls that arrived from Columbia in Feb are now gone...I will keep an eye on the quantity and quality of summer chicas and report here what I discover.
-zing
Mid-May report, based on afternoon visits only.

Although the tourist activity in St Maarten has decreased drastically (several days during the week with no cruise ships, especially Sat and Sun), there still seem to be a lot of Columbian and Dominican chicas in St Maarten. The beauty is down a bit in my opinion. The girls at Seamans and Carolina don't start very promptly at 11am when there are no cruise ships in port.

At Carolina, Viviana and Karen and Valentina (see previous reports) are all gone. Yesterday there were only 2 girls that I remembered seeing at all in the past. All girls from Columbia. I didn't see any chicas that really turned me on, except one stunning girl in the restaurant, who immediately disappeared into the hotel and never reappeared in the bar.

Started talking to Janeth from Bogota and two other chicas from Medellin, eventually took Janeth to the room. Nice looking, redish hair, very slim, big enhanced breasts, no DFK (no FK at all), nice DATY, CBJ, CFS in several positions. $40+$3 to the bar.

At Seamans I am still visiting Louisa from Pereira Columbia, but she has moved to a new room. Very nice GFE, lots of DFK, BBBJCIM, no rush, lots of positions and variety over many visits. Large natural breasts, not skinny. $40 per visit. The other girls are mostly new, mostly Columbianas with a couple of Dominicanas thrown in for color. Looks about the same as Carolina now. Above average, some cute girls, no stunners.

Have visited Casa Blanca at about 3-4pm three times recently. All Dominicanas. Nice talks with Nancy (rm 1) and Paola and her cousin (that is prima in Spanish) and Maria (her cousin also is there!). Session with Paola from Santiago, who is slim, lighter skinned, cute, small breasts, does a strip tease, stands over you on the bed. I put on a CD of my favorite Latina music and tried to get her to relax, but there was no real caressing and kissing (like she has a std routine to get the deed done in 20 minutes), CBJ, then CFS, which was actually quite exciting. Afterwards I gave her the CD and lay with her and caressed her and she started to relax and get a bit more GFE. Might repeat after some negotiations in the bar for more! $45 to the bar before you go to the room.

Defiance has mostly new girls from Dominica Rep and Columbia. Nobody really beautiful in the afternoon. Went with Crystal (Medellin, rm 216), who gracefully disentangled herself from a local guy at the bar who was probably only window shopping, and approached me as soon as I got a drink and walked past her. Short in stature with dirty blond hair, nice figure, face pretty but looks a bit used or trashy, nice natural breasts. After exchanging names, she suggested we go to the room (no drinks, no conversation, no rubbing of my private parts). Since I was actually in a hurry and she appealed to me, I said yes.

Undressed she was in excellent shape. Gave her a Latino music CD which she put on, and gave her a massage, which may or may not have relaxed her. Some nice kissing and caressing (no DFK or FK), went for the condom quickly, CBJ (very well done), went for the lub and I suggested DATY instead (she lowered herself onto my face and gave a good simulation of enjoying it-in any case, she never used lub). CFS in three positions, ending quite happily for me. Quick shower and clothes back on and waiting for me to cleanup and leave. What is funny is that in spite of the slight rush and restraint on her part (no french kissing for example), she actually knew exactly how to push my buttons and it was very exciting. Maybe I really like trashy professional better than simulated girlfriend! $40, no bar fee in the daytime.

Haven't been into Petite Chateau recently because I didn't see anything interesting in April.

Sunset Retreat is not open in the afternoon.

Note: the weather is hotter (82 to 86 F with slightly higher humdity (60 to 70%). Only Seamans and Carolina have air conditioners in the rooms.

-zing

Inglewood
05-28-06, 16:31
Do any of the girls in St Maarten do doubles or lesbian shows? Will be there soon and hope to realize this fantasy. Thanks for the great reports. Looking forward to partaking.

Zing23
05-28-06, 19:19
Do any of the girls in St Maarten do doubles or lesbian shows? Will be there soon and hope to realize this fantasy. Thanks for the great reports. Looking forward to partaking.

Doubles - "dupla" is no problem, just ask. It isn't something you see everyday, but girls do suggest it on a regular basis. Just yesterday Louisa's roommate at Seamans mentioned a possiblel dupla customer in the bar to her while I was leaving.

See my report on my first double. (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=434346&postcount=144) Leslie the Cubana initiated some lesbian action on her own to entertain me, so I am sure if you ask first ("lesbos?") it will be part of the show (probably faked of course!)

have fun.

-zing

Zing23
06-04-06, 11:12
Did a tour of brothels so i could report to you guys. no cruise ships. not many tourists. quiet time for the girls. not making enough to even pay the house fees. i feel like the chamber commerce.

1125am. Started at Carolina Club. Only one girl in the bar. Friday night is typically a busy night at these clubs, so if there aren't any cruise ships due, the girls may sleep in a bit on Saturday. I left.

1130am. Seamans Club. About 8 girls in the bar (better supervision or work ethic ?) After an hour with Lousia, there were about 15 girls and 5 guys in the bar - lots of new girls from Colombia.

1pm. Carolina. 10 girls and 5 guys. Saw Janeth from last week and gave her a kiss on the cheek, no repeat. Struck up a conversation with Simone at the bar. Practised my Spanish. Asked her if the Dictionary of Colombian Spanish (http://www.locombianos.com/diccionario.htm) that I downloaded from the internet was accurate (es verdad?). She verified that it was and read the first page aloud, laughing at every other entry. Went to the room. Pretty good session, but not GFE. As we were going to the room, she asked me if I wanted 30 minutes ($3 to the bar) or an hour ($6 to the bar). This is a slightly bad sign, since I prefer to leave it vague, just pay the $3, stay as long as I/she want in the room, and pay the bar an extra $3 if it is over 45 minutes.

2pm. Petit Chateau. 15+ chicas. Mostly Dominicanas (black). A couple of new Colombianas (white). Was surprised to see my old friend Leny, as I assumed she had gone back to Medellin already. She had put on a little weight eating West Indian food for 3 months (heavy on starches), which looked good on her as she was very thin before. It was a nice reunion. I had given her a CD walkman 3 months earlier and dropped off Latino CDs whenever I was in Petit Chateau, so I think I was remembered as a friend. Rooms are not airconditioned, but the fan worked fine. Long DATY. BBBJ at my request (most girls will not go BB unless you ask). Cowgirl. Mish. She has gotten a bit more professional and active in her service. Then a lot of intense thrusting and rotating under me. And suddenly she got this very surprised look on face and quietly said, "Leny finito", which means "I came". In this case, I believed her, as she hadn't gone through the typical moaning/etc of a fake orgasm. Leaving for Colombia on Monday.

3pm. Defiance. 10 girls, 2 or 3 guys. Saw Crystal from last week. Greeting/kiss. She asked if I wanted to repeat and I said you are very beautiful and sexy, but I am looking for more kisses and not so fast (mas besos, mas despacio). She whispered no problemo in my ear, but I just answered "quizas" (perhaps). Saw a very pretty young woman with long black hair. Called her over - Samantha (?) from Cartagena. Implants. Could not get a conversation going, perhaps because I had stupidly picked the hotest spot to sit, in the sun. After I told her no to going to the room, she drifted off. I moved out of the sun and spotted Crystal with another Colombiana. Went over to get introduced to Margarethe from Bucaramanga (sp?). Talking to both of them, listening to Latin music with them on my Ipod, but during a moment when I was talking to Crystal, Margarethe slipped off to the bar to be friendly to a blond guy who had just arrived. After some nice conversation, I went with Crystal again. Much more mellow this time - some light FK, BBBJ instead of CBJ, lots of kissing and caressing. Long CFS in lots of positions as she tried to get me to finish (if it had happened I would have been a surprised and happy camper). Por que no leche para me? (why no come for me?). I mentioned the previous leche of the day and she asked if that was at places like Defiance and I said yes. I said I liked girls! She said that is very natural. You gotta love these Colombian women. I had given her a Latin CD the week before and she said it was the only gift she had received in St Maarten.

All girls $40. Gave Leny a tip to commemorate 3 months of intermittent but GFE service.

-zing

Ricker
06-07-06, 03:49
Nice report.

ColOmbia ... no "U"

Tbird
06-07-06, 04:13
Nice report.

ColOmbia ... no "U"


ColombianAs (no O)..ja ja ja..unless you have gone over to the other team. :-)

Zing23
06-07-06, 12:07
ColombianAs (no O)..ja ja ja..unless you have gone over to the other team. :-)

thanks for the corrections. sorry for the spelling errors, but i typed the report in a big hurry before rushing to catch a plane to sex prison. while in prison, i can just read the ISG forum and dream! next sunday, should be back to st maarten for another afternoon of fun ....

-zing

Mel365
06-09-06, 01:36
Zing,

I was in SXM from April 26- May 8th.

In Carolinas did you ever run into Luna a small very young long haired blond from Cali with Braces on her teeth.

About 95 Lbs nice natural c cups. I spent a number TLNS with her and had a lot of fun.
We went to the disco at maho sunset beach and danced Reggetone ( I love that music) until 4:30 am. Wow what a great dancer both vertically and horizontally. I had the dj at Carolina burn me 2 Reggetone discs for $10- each.

Talking about chica jealousy. One night she said on the phone she was sick (probably out with another TLN. So I went out TLN with Valentina
(isaria actual name) from medallin). Medium build nice boobs freckles on her face had a great night.

The following day I went to pick up Luna for the afternoon and get her E-mail-mail and phone in Columbia. She went over to the bar to write it down and another chica told her that I had taken out Valentina---wow what jealousy- she flipped out- even though I said that she was out that last night .

The place across from Carolinas seems like the dregs of the island as well as the other place down the road from Carolinas closer to town. Did I just pick a bad afternoon?

Casa Blanca seems a little too aggressive and mechanical for me , it seemed like the girl was watching me with one eye and the clock with the other.

Had a number of good sessions in seaman’s. However one night I ran into a really cute girl light skinned Columbian forgot her name.

About 5 feet tall Killer body with and incredible smile. She was my 4th that night and it was late. We were fooling around and at exactly 3am a buzzer went off in seaman’s and she said I had to leave , I offered more $$$ but no go.

Have you run into this at Seaman's?

Had 22 different chicas during that trip.

What is the selection like now that it is off season?

I was planning a trip down in the next few weeks.

How do you get to sxm so often?

Happy Mongering,

Sailormon

Zing23
06-11-06, 19:19
In Carolinas did you ever run into Luna a small very young long haired blond from Cali with Braces on her teeth.
I think I have seen her, but did not ever get to meet her. My favorita got awfully jealous if i spent too much time talking to other girls.

So I went out TLN with Valentina
(isaria actual name) from medallin). Medium build nice boobs freckles on her face had a great night.
Always meant to have a session with Valentina - friendliest girl at Carolina - but she was always busy, or I was. Perhaps she will return next year!


The place across from Carolinas seems like the dregs of the island as well as the other place down the road from Carolinas closer to town. Did I just pick a bad afternoon?
I cannot figure out Crystal Club across from carolina - never saw anyone that seemed at all sexy, finally gave up looking at all.

I can understand Petit Chateau - it aims to please the local market, which prizes big buns, big boobs and a strong attitude! Have only found 3 girls in there in 9 months, so for a short time visitor it is probably not worth the effort.


We were fooling around and at exactly 3am a buzzer went off in seaman’s and she said I had to leave , I offered more $$$ but no go. Have you run into this at Seaman's?
No, but I haven't been at any of the places at closing time. 90% of my visits are in the daytime.


What is the selection like now that it is off season?
I was planning a trip down in the next few weeks.
How do you get to sxm so often?
The selection of chicas is slightly smaller, but there are still about the same quality of looks and attitude as before. But since there are fewer customer, you will probably be more valued! PM me when you are coming. I live in the Caribbean and try to get to St Maarten once or twice a week, although other activities sometimes interfere.

-zing

Mel365
06-12-06, 02:47
I will pm you when I am planning on my next trip to SXM.

Sailormon

Routard
06-12-06, 11:43
Here am I now relaxing in the crystal clear water of this tropical paradise only 48 hours after a marvellous trip in Europe were I’ve met the most beautiful women of Prague and had sex with more than 20 gorgeous girls in the greatest brothels on earth (just check my latest reports in the Prague and FKK section). Life is good to me!

It was already midnight when I decided to make a quick survey of the brothels. I was disappointed about the line-up, few girls fancied me, probably due to my previous sex adventures in Europe. I was really not in to fuck as many girls as I could. So I decided to go for an all nighter. I chosed the only girl that really fancied me. I prefer not to give her name you will understand why. We agreed on pricing and she went to change her “working” clothes for a more appropriate outdoor dress. When she came back, I knew I made the good choice. She had style and looked amazing. We exited the club and I was proud to walk around with her. She was just 23 years old, ethnically European with her blonde hairs, light eyes and thin body. She even spoke english, which is unusual with the Colombian girls from Saint Maarten. I preferred however to speak Spanish with her. We passed a mirror, and I found that we really matched together.

It was already late, so we went back to the hotel. We showered together, which made me discovered her perfect body. Once back in the room, she started to prepare already the condom, but I explained that we were not in a hurry. I wanted her to be completely relaxed with me before. She asked for a drink, and while I was getting a glass for her, she asked me if she could take cocaine. Shit, I didn’t really like it that she brought some cocaine in my hotel room, but I wanted to make her feel completely relaxed and safe. So I agreed, and I also took some with her. It was the first time that I tried cocaine, no big deal for me, again it was just to please her. We then discussed for nearly an hour, fully naked in bed. When I noticed that she was completely secured, I started to kiss her. Her lips had a strange taste. Yes, it was the sour taste of cocaine. I started even to feel the anaesthetic local action of the drug, close to what you may feel at the dentist. Another new experience. Still, we made love for nearly an hour. It was great, but I noticed that she was really tired. So I turned off light and we felt in sleep, our bodies enlaced.

When I woke up next morning, daylight showed how beautiful she really was. I took my shower and came back in bed. She was still sleeping. I caressed her body and my desire for her increased. But she didn’t wake up. I was watching that perfect body that I could not fuck. It was as if we were already married, I’m sure you all know what I mean. It was already 9am when she woke up at last. She smiled to me came in my arms and it made me feel so good!
No, she didn’t plan to leave me frustrated. We had a nice early morning sex, thought I didn’t came even if I was real horny. Was it the side effect of cocaine? It didn’t matter, I had spent a nice night with her and we went out for breakfast.

The waitress came to us to inquire for breakfast and started a nice discussion with us. She asked about us, where we came from and so on. I realized we really looked as if we were on honeymoon. Indeed, we had breakfast discussing our eyes glued to each other and smiling. Yes, breakfast is definitely the best moment of an all nighter.

It was time to bring her back. We exchanged our Email addresses and I promised to come back for another all nighter with her soon.

Yes, I believe I’m in some major step in my mongering life. I’m not interested anymore in fucking as many girls as I can. I prefer now to take some time and have a true story with a woman.

Jan Chris
06-12-06, 22:17
1) This is my second trip to St Maarteen, and I have looked for many times a cheap accommodation. While car rental are generally cheap (this time I chose ACE car rental, 102 USD a week), accommodation are expensive (Captain Oliver’s is good but still 100USD/day). Finally, I googled in st-maarteen-vaccation.com a guesthouse owned by Maryse. They rent three of them, I chose the “Residence blue beach”. This is small, reasonably well-maintained and discrete studio with kitchen that will cost you 50 USD/day. There are just cockroaches around this place, but I am going to fix it! Overall good value for money to my point of view. No American channels, nor swimming pool but with a/c. Very good to bring back the chica for the day or night. There is a mezzanine, so it could be occupied by 2 mongerers and 2 chicas if you are in that sort of thing.
NB : The “Blue Skye Hotel” I have evoked in one of my report does not seem to be available for us, only for the chicas.
One other thing: last time, I spent quite a lot of time and resources in internet cafes. In Walter Nisbeth street, there was one rather cheep though. But I was looking for free wireless access. Found some info in sxm-info.com: the access point in Fiesta Tropical (Front street) does not seem to work, however the one in Coconut Joe’s bar in Simpson road does! It is located at the end of the road, so quite far from the airport, on the left side if you are coming from the Juliana. In fact, I am writing this report from this place, which is, at 5pm, completely closed and deserted!

2) What about the action? Zing23 is quite right in saying that the quality and quantity is down a bit compared to the high season (which ends with the Easter weekend). In the morning, there are sometimes more hombres than chicas, especially in Carolina because they have installed a big screen for the worldcup. Having said that, I have been quite happy with the first three girls I met. More specific reports will follow upon completion of my “duty”.

Ricker
06-13-06, 21:52
ROUTARD ....

I´ve been ´mongering´for years also ... and I also have entered that ´new phase´that you described.

Much more interested in the quality of time with a chica than with the amount of them.

Suerte!

Zing23
06-15-06, 11:39
In the morning, there are sometimes more hombres than chicas, especially in Carolina because they have installed a big screen for the worldcup. Jan Chris is absolutely right. I was in Carolina yesterday at about 300pm and a large crowd was watching the world cup match on the big screen and ignoring the few girls that were present. I took a look in the "hotel" lobby to see if the chicas were all in there on the sofas - no luck, only 1.

Then I noticed a busty cute blond with pink eyeshadow that I have seen before. She took one look at the rapt sports fans and went out the door into the entry hallway where she could catch a man before he was entrapped by the big screen. I decided to leave and say hola to her on the way out. As I stepped out the door, she immediately struck up a conversation with me. Her name is Diana, from Bogota. Quite cute up close and in the light. She spoke some English, but we mostly talked in Spanish. Soon we retired to her room, #11. Undressed she was even better. Her breasts must be enhanced, but didn't feel like it. I am much taller than her and she started things off my massaging junior zing with her breasts while I was standing in front of her. Eager to please, accepted kisses on the lips, but no DFK. Declined DATY (said she didn't like it, in English). She sucked on my nipples as I came - nice touch! $3 to the bar plus $40 for Diana.

I was also at Seamans at 2pm, where the small screens were showing regular TV and porn videos - no world cup. The place was packed with guys (over 20) and girls (at least 15). The selection available was way better than at Carolina (at night it could be different- I don't know).

However, my regular at Seamans, Luisa, told me that the customers were not going to the rooms with the girls much. We are getting into the part of the off season where because there are few tourists, there are fewer dollars flowing through the economy.

-zing

Jan Chris
06-16-06, 19:52
Zing23 is right about Diana. She will be included in my report at the end of my trip. Carolina still has a better selection to my point of view, if you are able to see all of them.
For that purpose, here is a tip: Do not got between 4 and 6pm, they are all resting or out for their private stuff (like sending some money to Colombia). ut if you go at 8pm, there will be absolutely no clients, but... you will see all of them coming to sign the register, the same applies at 11am. On the morning, you may not be able to have a session straight away as they are not all ready (but maybe you can date at 11.30), but it will be more easy at 8pm. Good time becase they are not too tired, and not in a hurry neither.

Lima Busy
06-16-06, 22:07
I just wanted to say "Hi" and let everybody know what a standup guy you are.
If I ever make it up that way "You are definetily the Man to know"! how's the golf game coming along?

Bueno Suerte!
LB

Routard
06-16-06, 22:51
You are definetily the Man to know

I agree with it too as I had also the privilege to meet Zing23, but most important, this is what the chicas say too. ;)

Routard
06-21-06, 11:52
Yes, Saint Maarten is now on high resolution on Google Earth!

Jan Chris
06-22-06, 10:38
I stayed 10 days in St Maarteen, and following will be the list of chicas I met: there were none of the ones I saw during my last trip. I decided to have two sessions a day until Wednesday to choose my “all night long” (TLN) chicas for the end of the week. In Casa Blanca and Sunset Retreat, there are only Dominicans, which means black skinned and mostly flat chested, as they rarely have implants. So I did not pick anyone there. I came to the conclusion that 7-10 days in SXM are enough to have sex with the most attractive girls, unless you are : A) not very picky, and/or B) have a lot of money and/or C) you find the perfect woman and want to settle there!

But before I come to the specific reports, I’d like to say that I was extremely surprised to be known in Carolina by everybody, because I had a sort of aborted “love affair” with one girl three months ago. She must have spoken to everyone, even those who came after my departure. You can’t imagine how much they speak to each other: therefore do not say to all of them that they are the most beautiful of the place or that you are in love with them: you will loose your credibility in less than a couple of minutes.

Important notice: During weekdays, Seamans’s, Carolina and Defiance close at 2am, 4am on Fridays and Saturdays. Casa Blanca and Sunset Retreat remain open later. Before 12.30 there is little activity. Do not go neither between 4 and 8pm. Since there is no “fine” (multa) to pay between 4 and 8, most of the girls are outside for their private stuff (sending money to their family, going to the beach, shopping, etc.)

WIFI-Hotspots: In my previous report, I said the Hotspot from Fiesta Tropical Café 14 Font street does not work. In fact, it does, but you have to know the security code of “home Fridays local” which is I believe 5995428030, otherwise ask the bartender. On the other hand Coconut Joe’s one did not work the last couple of days.

Dancing: the girls will not necessarily like to come out dancing because they hear music all the time. They may prefer to go and see a movies (there is a complex in Simpson road). But if you go out dancing with her, my advice is to go to “La Chapelle” in Orient Bay (French side) on Thursdays from 11pm. They are very good salsero there and a nice restaurant.

Sex on the beach: go to Guana Bay 10’ from Carolina, take Guana Bay Road on the left if you go to Philipsburg’s direction. It is isolated in the night. Both romantic and exiting.

Jan Chris
06-22-06, 10:45
a) Seaman’s

In fact, I found the quality was down in this mythic place.

- Catalina (room 1): a small cute face 26 year’s old brunette. Average body, but nice smile. Has arrived on 9 June. She was sweet and I liked her childish attitude, but she is already the mother of two girls! So not so childish! Nice personality, but maybe lack of experience to know how to satisfy a man. Not on the top of my list.

- Anita: The best sessions I had, but since she leaves on Monday, it does not really make sense that I go into much details. PM me if necessary.

- Eliena (room 14): pretty girl, she has natural C-cup breast, the session was OK but too quick.

b) Carolina

The quality and quantity remains reasonably high here compared to my last trip:

- Lina (room 5): a slim lady (although she is the mother of one child), 26 but looks older, blond hair, with implants. My first session was great! She talked a lot, but was eager to please me. Lots of kisses, even French, which is exceptional. I thought it would be hard to choose someone else after her, but I still had 6 more days to come!
Needless to say that I chose her as my first TLN… and I was disappointed. She was but the shadow of herself, she told me she was exhausted. Whatever her reasons were, it was rather frustrating for me. She had the courtesy to apologize. Overall, it was a waste of time and money.

- Diana (room 11) is a genuine Playboy type of woman: rather tall, blond hair, small nose, and a C/D cup breast that looks natural. Zing23 report is accurate. Sex was nothing exceptional, and I finally realize she could be a better friend than a sex partner. We exchange ideas about our feelings (we both fell in love in a brothel). We finally became so confident, that I can say I met a true friend, therefore we both decided not have any session together. From this moment my desire for her transformed into a sort of admiration for this attractive body. Do not expect to have GFE with her, she has someone in her mind. Please treat her well.

- Jane (room 12): she is a 26 years old girl, very slim, blond hair, very pleasant and quite personality. At first, I thought her breasts were natural, and it was only when I saw the small scar under the nipples that I knew they weren’t. But her surgeon (an Argentinean practicing in Colombia, Mr. Hans Harry Bonnet) has made a fantastic job! The session was pleasant but it did not change my priority list.

- Jacqueline (room 2 or 3): strange voice, very slim, rounded shaped breast. We did not have sex, cos I was not in the mood, but she gave me a nice massage. Good character.

- Mariana (room 14) has arrived two weeks ago and must be the younger of the group. Furthermore, she is just starting in the circuit. She was not on the top of my list, but I discovered a nice body, and her breast, tough not very large are very soft and completely natural. I had a TLN session with her. Due to her lack of experience, do not expect to have a GFE.

- Nathalie (room 13): our session has been marred by unexpected events, therefore I will do a specific report on her.

c) Defiance

I was quite surprised to see some pretty girls there but with more African descent ladies than in the other brothels.

- Juliana is a 24 years old, rather tall, white-skinned girl, with long black hair. Was very soft, but no GFE. Her breasts are really nice to touch, but they have a big scar I would have preferred to do without. No regret as my thoughts were already towards a real cutie I had spotted before, but who was busy with another guy.

- Her name is Samantha. God, she has a body to die for! She has a long black hair and although being the mother of one child, she is very slim. Her face is cute, looks a little bit sad. To my point of view, the best looking girl of Defiance. She has arrived two weeks ago. Her service was quite mechanical (no French kisses) but somehow exciting. During the night session I had with her, there was not very much enthusiasm from her side. However, as I dropped her in Defiance, I was still hypnotized by her body.

My TLN sessions were disappointing except with Anita. I was happier on different occasions here and in other places. I still have enough consideration to understand that these girls are exhausted but I decided to forget about these long sessions and come back to these 20 minutes ones for my last days. I only made an exception with Anita.

My advice: always have an “emergency plan” if you hope to date with one chica. Do not entirely pay them in advance if you can. Take them out at 8pm, not 2am.

Jan Chris
06-22-06, 10:46
Following my previous report, I think you’d be interested to know about this unfortunate event that happened to me.

I had remarked Nathalie, because she is small (which I like) and has a blond long hair, is only 22 but looks older, implants. She has an angel face and a fantastic smile. I was very eager to have sex with this little horny girl.

a) First session: We had a date at 11 am, but when I arrived, she was still asleep with her partner. I said I was sorry and I could come later, but she insisted I should stay. So, we made it silently while her friend was half-asleep, but none of us did mind! She was very comfortable with sex and had a strong GFE potential, therefore I was considering to have a TLN. She asked for USD 300 + 45 “multa” (i.e. fine to pay to the management) for the night.

b) Second session: My night with her ended up in a nightmare. We came out dancing, and when returning, she said she had forgotten condoms therefore we needed to come back to Carolina. While I was waiting in the car, they closed the bar at 2.30am but Nathalie came from the back and told me this story: there was a big fight between some other girls and her roommate, so she needed to stay with her to ensure her security. She was very nervous and her mobile was keeping on ringing all the time, therefore I accepted to let her go provided we would resume the session another day. I even agreed to pay another fine because I knew they would charge her again. We agreed to meet at 1am the following day, I had prepared a nice and romantic date, but guess what? She had gone with another client before I arrived! The following morning, I left a written note under her door asking for explanation, but on the evening, she said she did not see it. I asked again for explanations, she replied that I had my session and she had to continue to work and that was all!

I thought it was really unfair, that she had not completed her part of the contract, and I was so frustrated that I decided to complain to the management. Before, I asked advice to a couple of chicas, who strongly encouraged me to do so. They told me there was no fight on this Thursday that no one was hurt, and that other customers had previously had some problems with Nathalie. They directed me to the “dueno”, called Jaime (not sure about spelling). He is a strong black French guy, speaks very good Spanish and English. He asked me very precise questions (such as whether she sucked me in the car…), then he requested her presence. She gave contradictory explanations and was “fined” to refund me 150 USD. He did not accused her of lying, but justified his decision on the ground of professional misbehavior (a chica always need to have condoms, no one would agree to pay 300 USD for not for having sex). The manager has a lot of authority and neither Nathalie nor I could really challenge his decision, and as far as I was concerned I felt I had won a battle on the principle. There were a lot of customers around watching this Salomon judgment. Nathalie was in a furry against Jaime, she neither looked at me once, nor apologized. Needless to say that her story of the fighting with the girls was pure invention.
I thanked my two guardian angels for their good advice by giving them a nice tip. The important number of witnesses and the gossips between the girls will probably arm more Nathalie’s reputation than this report, I guess.

Conclusions:

a) Be careful of this girl. She is extremely cute and I would have sold my soul for her, but she is the devil incarnated
b) Trust more you intelligence than your feelings: in this story, there were some strange elements that should have alerted me.
c) If you have a problem, speak with some girls first, ask for their advice, then make up your mind and eventually speak to the manager or his wife (Isabel). They are not necessarily on the side on the chicas, because they want the club to run smoothly and customers to know that they are safe. On the other hand, I think they will not hesitate to back the girls with the same determination if a customer behaves inadequately. Carolina seems to be very business oriented, the Dutch way as I like…

Routard
06-22-06, 11:50
Excellent reports Jan Chris, it gives a good idea about the atmosphere of the Saint Maarten scene. Sorry to read your experience with Nathalie. I seldom had to experience any problem myself in Saint Maarten, but it may happen of course, each chica is different. More interesting is to see how the management deals with such issue. The boss is the kind of guy you 'd better not want to fool, I would have spelled his name Jimmy. But I know he is extremely business oriented and I'm not surprised to hear he took a fair decision. He is not only customer oriented, the chicas also have at Carolina the best working conditions. He genuinely tries to bring his business to the best level, that's why Carolina became in a short period of time the best brothel of Saint Maarten.

Zing23
06-25-06, 01:50
Dancing: the girls will not necessarily like to come out dancing because they hear music all the time. They may prefer to go and see a movies (there is a complex in Simpson road). But if you go out dancing with her, my advice is to go to “La Chapelle” in Orient Bay (French side) on Thursdays from 11pm. They are very good salsero there and a nice restaurant.Thanks for the great reports and the tips. I like your advice about the dancing, because it is an example of a new theory that I have been working on: ask the girls what they like!

Seems simple, but it is so easy to just assume what they will like. And the downside of that approach is that is causes you to do things that they have probably seen/heard/done a hundred times before with a hundred other hombres. It takes something that shows personal knowledge/concern for them to shake them out of their professonal persona (of course you don't want to do something so overwhelmingly thoughtful that they start to think of you as their boyfriend).

I have an example from yesterday. I had been visiting Luisa at Seamans for about 6 weeks and the sessions were getting better and better (she leaves for Colombia on Thursday, so don't bother to look in rm 9 after that). After the 2nd week, I asked her what musician was her favorite. And without hesitation she said "Joan Sebastian". I had her write in down and looked it up on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001YDJ/qid=1151196010/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/102-2649826-9472954?s=music&v=glance&n=5174) and ordered some CDs.

Turns out the Joan Sebastian is a man, an old time singer in Colombia. He sings ballades and old fashioned dance tunes - very Colombian, not like the Latina music I had been listening to, or that they play in the brothels (reggaeton, hip hop, etc.). Luisa told me that all women in Colombia love him.

Yesterday I was sitting at the bar at Defiance with three Colombianas and let them look through my music CDs. Isobela from Cali completely perked up when she saw Joan Sebastian. She could not believe that I had it. She asked the bartender to put it on the sound system - and all of a sudden the 3 chicas were dancing and singing along to "25 Rosas", his most famous hit. As the familiar songs rolled on, Colombianas around the room started dancing, and singing and clapping along. They knew all the words of every song. It was as if I had turned a switch and changed their personalities.

If I hadn't listened to Luisa, I would never have seen this. An obvious CD of Shakira, the most internationally famous singer from Colombia, does not have this impact on the girls from Colombia.

-zing

Delaware Guy
06-27-06, 19:10
I have a question - and this is a serious question, not an invitation to a flame war:


She was very comfortable with sex and had a strong GFE potential, therefore I was considering to have a TLN. She asked for USD 300 + 45 “multa” (i.e. fine to pay to the management) for the night. Why would you travel to St Maartin (I assume you are traveling there, not a resident) and pay $345 USD for a chica for TLN? I realize she was probably really hot. They make them that way in Colombia. And I am sure the sexo was just as hot. But I can get TLN here at home from some pretty damned hot Brazillian strippers working on the side for less than that. I can get TLN in Costa Rica from some mighty fine Colombianas, or just as fine Ticas, for $100 - $150 USD. I can go to Aruba and get just as fine a Colombiana for $40 in house. I've never tried for TLN in Aruba, so don't know the going rate, but I doubt if it would come to $345. Again, I am not looking for a flame war here. I would appreciate a serious reply.

Zing23
06-28-06, 13:43
I have a question - and this is a serious question, not an invitation to a flame war:

Why would you travel to St Maartin (I assume you are traveling there, not a resident) and pay $345 USD for a chica for TLN? I realize she was probably really hot. They make them that way in Colombia. And I am sure the sexo was just as hot. But I can get TLN here at home from some pretty damned hot Brazillian strippers working on the side for less than that. I can get TLN in Costa Rica from some mighty fine Colombianas, or just as fine Ticas, for $100 - $150 USD. I can go to Aruba and get just as fine a Colombiana for $40 in house. I've never tried for TLN in Aruba, so don't know the going rate, but I doubt if it would come to $345. Again, I am not looking for a flame war here. I would appreciate a serious reply.

standard rate for a hot colombiana in house in st maarten is $40, about the same as aruba, a bit more than curucao.

the rate for overnight is totally negotiable.

do you want her to start at 8pm or are you willing to wait until they close at 2am (so she can have 4 or more clients before you)? is she in high demand most nights? then she will ask more! is she not busy? then less money. the going rate is $200 to $300 per night, but I am sure some guys pay less. it is similar with the room time - officially 20-25 minutes for $40, but I am usually in the room 45 to 90 minutes, sometimes 2 hours. same $40. depends on the girl.

I haven't ever taken TLN myself, due to scheduling problems, but I can see the charm of it. The base price is $45 to the house. After that it is up to your negotiating skills and charm.

The main advantage that St Maarten has over the stripper in the usa is that prostitution is legal in st maarten. And you have nice warm weather and beaches, etc.

-zing

Routard
06-28-06, 14:34
I second Zing. There are indeed less expensive places elsewhere, but still pricing is reasonable in Saint Maarten. Short time sessions have standard pricing: 40$ (some bargain it down to 30$, but then don't expect good service from the chica). TLN is negotiable as Zing explained depending time of the night etc... 300$ is the starting price for TLN, I usually pay 150 to 200$ later in the night. I even once managed to get a chica for all the afternoon for 50$, only because she just arrived and wanted to visit the island's beaches (we didn't only visit beaches BTW).

The good thing about TLN in Saint Maarten is that the chicas are far from home and don't need to go back early in the morning to take care for their children. They need to be back at the Club only at 11am. In many places, the so called TLN finish in the (very) early morning. I remember in Dominican Republic , I paid 100$ for a so called TLN. I had to pay for condoms, lub, baby milk at the pharmacy, she was hungry, asked me to eat before. We arrived only at 3am at my hotelroom. She asked to leave at 5am as she needed to take care of her baby, asked me money again for taxi. Well, this was not anymore a TLN for 100$, but a quicky for 200$!

There are quantity of other good things about Saint Maarten: its a paradise island, there are upscale touristic facilities with direct flights to USA and Europe and best of all, prostitution is safe and legal (remember, it's a Dutch island).

I can deal with unsafe third world countries in South America, and I'm happy to monger there too. I love diversity and discovering new hunting grounds. But I can understand that some prefer to pay a bit more and a be in a developped and securred environment. It's a matter of personal choice.

Delaware Guy
06-28-06, 23:13
I guess I misunderstood the post refering to $300 for TLN and thought that was an average figure. And I really can appreciate the "girls away from home" factor. It can be a bit frustrating when you're just starting to get that good morning wood and she comes out with "Lo siento mi amor, pero tengo que irme y preparar el desayuno para mis niños antes de escuela."

Jan Chris
06-29-06, 14:13
I second Routard and Zing. Everything is negotiable, depending of the number of clients she will expect (therefore you should get a better price during the low season - a higher price if a boat comes on the shore the same day...), the beauty of the girl, the time when you will pick her up, the way you look like. But personnaly, I do not like to bargain, because I know they are having a hard time and I hope to have a better service - i.e. GFE (which was unfortunately not the case during my last stay except but once). I only bargained once with Samantha (see my report) because she was asking 400 at 1am! Finnally, I paid 280, fine included.

Routard
06-29-06, 15:00
"Lo siento mi amor, pero tengo que irme y preparar el desayuno para mis niños antes de escuela."

Seems to remember you some kind of previous disappointing experience too ;).

Check my previous reports about TLN in Saint Maarten. The best part is the wake up in the morning and breakfast with the chica. No rush, there is time till 11am :)

Jan Chris, I appreciate your gentleman attitude regarding not negociating price with the chicas. I agree, best is not negociating price but negotiating better service for the same price.

PogoStick
06-29-06, 17:00
best is not negociating price but negotiating better service for the same price.

I believe that statement is worth repeating.

pogo

Zing23
06-30-06, 18:59
I had an odd experience yesterday. Keep in mind that I visit St Maarten once or twice a week.

I have been seeing Luisa at Seamans for 6 weeks: she was recommended to me by a previous favorita (see previous report) (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458653&postcount=197) and she was fantastic. I went by the St Maarten airport because Luisa was flying on DAE to Curacao at 1145. I thought I might catch her checking in between 1030 and 1100, but I did not see her. No big deal, because I was excited to see her roommate Yajaira, who Luisa had recommended to me as "tranquila" (i.e., a girl who would give unrushed GFE, with Luisa telling her what I expected I suspect).

I had an extremely nice session with Yajaira, getting to know a new chica. Unfortunately, she leaves for Colombia on Tuesday because her son is sick, so she suggested another girl, who recently arrived from Colombia.

Afterwards, she went through my collection of latin CDs and listened to selections from many. When she put on Joan Sebastian (see previous report) (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=478341&postcount=236), again as with other chicas, she sang along with all the songs. I told her this was Luisa's favorite music, and then I quietly started to cry.

-zing

Mel365
07-01-06, 01:14
Zing,

I know how you feel . some of those girls are soooo sweet and gentle.

Its such a shame they have to leave. Wouldn't it be nice if you could take one home?

See ya soon,

Sailormon

Zing23
07-04-06, 13:24
- Anita: The best sessions I had, but since she leaves on Monday, it does not really make sense that I go into much details. PM me if necessary.

Seamans had a going away party last week for Anita, Luisa and Paola. I never had the pleasure of Anita's company. Sigh.....


- Eliena (room 14): pretty girl, she has natural C-cup breast, the session was OK but too quick.

This is the tranquila girl that was recommended to me by Yajiara, who was recommended by Luisa, etc. She is very cute. Lots of dark hair. Nice body. Yajaira leaves for Colombia today, so I will let you know soon if I get an unrushed GFE experience from Eliena. She told me she is waiting for me.

Since Carolina put up the big screen for world cup, Seamans is much more lively in the afternoon. Almost all the girls are in the Seamans bar or sitting out front on the steps and yesterday at 3pm that parking lot was packed. I will post more on Carolina in a separate report.

-zing

Zing23
07-04-06, 13:45
When I entered Carolina at 130pm yesterday it was dead. They were playing a Mexican soap opera (telenovela) on the big screen, where it seemed the woman was going to shoot herself in the head because she was getting gordo (fat). Or not. There were no guys there except me and only 2 chicas. A few chicas wandered through, but didn't stay. Ever since they put up the big screen for the world cup, I think the girls have been depressed (why strut your stuff in front of guys who are hypnotized by a sports match?).

- Lina (room 5): a slim lady (although she is the mother of one child), 26 but looks older, blond hair, with implants. My first session was great! She talked a lot, but was eager to please me. Lots of kisses, even French, which is exceptional. I thought it would be hard to choose someone else after her, but I still had 6 more days to come!
Needless to say that I chose her as my first TLN… and I was disappointed. She was but the shadow of herself, she told me she was exhausted. Whatever her reasons were, it was rather frustrating for me. She had the courtesy to apologize. Overall, it was a waste of time and money.

After 10 minutes of Mexican soap opera and no chicas, I got up to leave (in retrospect, I realize that being the only guy in a brothel with 20 hot colombianos could be good, if I just asked the bartender to find one of the girls by name!). A cute girl by the door asked me to stay, because her amiga Diana was in her room and would be coming out to the bar for me (this was all in Spanish, and I understood about 75% of it, but enough to get the message). The helpful girl was Lina from room 5. Diana appeared and we three talked over a beer -- they read the news from Colombia (from my internet printout), listened to Colombian music on my Ipod. Diana told me that Lina was unhappy because her enamorado (lover) had just left for Holland. In spite of losing her lover, Lina in the bar beamed out friendliness and sexual promise when she smiled.



- Diana (room 11) is a genuine Playboy type of woman: rather tall, blond hair, small nose, and a C/D cup breast that looks natural. Zing23 report is accurate. Sex was nothing exceptional, and I finally realize she could be a better friend than a sex partner. We exchange ideas about our feelings (we both fell in love in a brothel). We finally became so confident, that I can say I met a true friend, therefore we both decided not have any session together. From this moment my desire for her transformed into a sort of admiration for this attractive body. Do not expect to have GFE with her, she has someone in her mind. Please treat her well.

Diana was 27 on her birthday last week. I happened to be there, missed a session with her because of scheduling problems, and left her a birthday gift with the bartender - a Spanish/English dictionary (wrapped with a ribbon - this is important!). Yesterday she thanked me very sweetly. We spent an hour and a half in the room (we even got a knock on the door, at which point Diana said she lost track of time) because she gave me a long, very professional massage while she listened to the Ipod, plus unrushed sex with a lot of caresses and attention. nicer, but still no DFK or DATY. Then lots of hugging and talking and a shower together (she asked me not to get her hair wet - a good tip). $40

Nathalie (room 13): ...
Be careful of this girl. She is extremely cute and I would have sold my soul for her, but she is the devil incarnate.
Last week when I missed Diana I went to room 13 with Nathalie's roommate. I got to observe Nathalie close up and in her natural element, since I was not a client. She is a drama queen - complained long and hard about someone fiddling with her cellphone or something, got the roommate to carry in 3 bags of groceries that Nathalie got some guy to donate. When she finally got a guy in the bar, she came right back and banged on the door for us to finish.
The only good thing I can say about Nathalie is that she is very cute!


-zing

Crossfire1
07-06-06, 03:49
I second Zing. There are indeed less expensive places elsewhere, but still pricing is reasonable in Saint Maarten. Short time sessions have standard pricing: 40$ (some bargain it down to 30$, but then don't expect good service from the chica). TLN is negotiable as Zing explained depending time of the night etc... 300$ is the starting price for TLN, I usually pay 150 to 200$ later in the night. I even once managed to get a chica for all the afternoon for 50$, only because she just arrived and wanted to visit the island's beaches (we didn't only visit beaches BTW).

The good thing about TLN in Saint Maarten is that the chicas are far from home and don't need to go back early in the morning to take care for their children. They need to be back at the Club only at 11am. In many places, the so called TLN finish in the (very) early morning. I remember in Dominican Republic , I paid 100$ for a so called TLN. I had to pay for condoms, lub, baby milk at the pharmacy, she was hungry, asked me to eat before. We arrived only at 3am at my hotelroom. She asked to leave at 5am as she needed to take care of her baby, asked me money again for taxi. Well, this was not anymore a TLN for 100$, but a quicky for 200$!

There are quantity of other good things about Saint Maarten: its a paradise island, there are upscale touristic facilities with direct flights to USA and Europe and best of all, prostitution is safe and legal (remember, it's a Dutch island).

I can deal with unsafe third world countries in South America, and I'm happy to monger there too. I love diversity and discovering new hunting grounds. But I can understand that some prefer to pay a bit more and a be in a developped and securred environment. It's a matter of personal choice.I've mongered in St Maarten. It is alot of fun. Casablanca, Seamans and Carolina were just a few of the places that I hit. But I still like the Dominican Republic better. There is no place like it. Sure I've have a chica that wanted to leave early when it was TLN but that was my fault since I din't negotiate well enough. Over all, I'd rather have a chica leave early after paying 50-60 USD for TLN rather than pay 200-300 USD to keep her til 11am. When I'm in the DR I usually do 2 chicas a day. The second one is always TLN. Some times I find non pro a go a few nights for free. As far as all the extras that you paid for, food taxi etc... that's on you. Live and learn.

The Show
07-07-06, 05:17
Hi All,

I Am New To The St Maarten Scene. I Am Planning To Go The Week Of 7.20-23. Is This A Good Time Of Year To Go. Will I Find Good Prices For Chicas?? I Have Been Looking At The Holland House Hotel, Is It True That They Accept The Girls Like Every One Says?? This Forum Has Been Very Very Informative. Also I Am Looking For Thick Black Girls..which Bar Do You Guys Recommend?

Thanks For All Yhe Help In Advance

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Mel365
07-07-06, 17:12
I have stayed there nice hotel but they have no parking.

You have to park at Bobby's Marina and walk back to the hotel. It is a 10 minute walk and I wouldn't advise it at night.

If you don't have a car the hotel is great.

Sailormon

Jan Chris
07-07-06, 18:56
About Lina, Diana and Nathalie and ELiena:
- Lina is certainly a real profesionnal, a nice woman although too nervous for me, I think I was unhappy with the her the day I chose her. Worth trying a short session at least ;
- Diana : I liked her because she is a genuine sensible person and perform well ;
- Nathalie : ýes, she is very cute indeed! one of the cutest. French kisses that makes you feel she has a strong GFE potential. But beware!
- Eliena : one of the cutest of Seamans to my point of view!