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Goodtime Man
11-12-07, 20:25
What is it like at the Palace the days following Christmas? Do many of the girls disappear for the weeks around Xmas?
Nick The G
11-13-07, 00:31
..... But just to add that at most FKK's with a bit of interview selectivity on your part and a fist full of dollars then it is usually possible for you to "have a beautiful woman lay naked next to me for several hours where imagination can run wild." without leaving the club. And then get up and start all over again.@ Excess: in my opinion, for people like Dave Jamsis it's a very important part of their wild running imagination to make sure that no other man can fuck their pretty baby after them in that special night!
I finally made it to the Palace last Saturday after reading about it for the past couple of years. Although my company is based in Germany, I only get to go there every four years or so as we rotate the annual management meeting around the world. My last trip to Germany was four years ago before I discovered that FKKs exist. On that trip, it was those walk ups in Frankfurt RLD. Rotating through the various regions isn't so bad as I've gotten to experience the termas in Brazil and the 141 Girls in Hong Kong. As for my experience at the Palace, all I can say is, wow!
I arrived last Saturday at 5:00pm, paid my 75 euro entrance fee. Things were kind of slow and I took everyone's advice and did not go with anyone for about an hour. I checked out TV room and was immediately approached by Melissa, a very curvy Puerto Rican. I was sorely tempted to go with her but I knew that I wouldn't last long so I made a mental note to look for her later. I did get to check out a black girl riding some guy in the TV room. I'm into public sex and I'm a voyeur so was hoping to see some more action later.
After an hour or so, I had decided on the three girls that I wanted that night. There was a short, slim blonde who wasn't all that attractive but there was something about her that got me going. Alas, as I approached her, she went into the smoking room and as an ex-smoker, I really can't handle the smoke too well these days. I decided to wait for her on one of the couches near the main bar and was approached by a curvy blonde named Jessica from Germany. She snuggled up to me and started playing with my nipples. That did the trick and we went to one of the rooms. Average BBBJ for about 5 minutes, some fingering of her clit, and on with the rubber. Cowgirl for about 5 minutes while she licked my nipples and it was all over. I knew the first one would be quick.
But all in all 50 euros well spent.
After this session, we both headed to the buffet. I have to tell you, if you are not there at 6:00pm sharp, the food is all gone by 6:30pm. I kept looking at this tall girl with great curves all night but the only time I saw her was walking to the rooms with someone in tow. After showering and eating, I retired to the TV room. I saw a slim blonde sucking one guy while jerking off another and switching off. The two guys must have been buddies as they did a running commentary in Italian. A couple of minutes later she left with both guys.
This got my motor running again and went looking for either the tall curvy girl, the short blonde or Melissa. I saw all three, the curvy girl was walking to the rooms with another guy. Melissa was chatting with her friends and the short blonde was dressed on her way home.
I walked up to Melissa who was at the main bar and she pulled me close and started to massage my back as I played with her tits. She offered me a massage afterwards if we went to the rooms. When we got there, she basically tossed me on the bed and gave me a terrific BBBJ followed by a titfuck before tossing on a condom for various positions. Boy, did she have a filthy mouth and egged me on in both English and Spanish. I finally popped while in doggy while gripping her meaty butt. I checked the time and notice it was close to 30 minutes but Melissa still offered to give me a massage. She pulled a bottle of lotion out of her little purse and did a decent massage for about 10 minutes. Again, 50 euros well spent.
I showered again, went back to the bar and noticed that the 2nd shift was there. These girls were extremely aggressive and twice, a couple of pairs of Romainians tried to sell a threesome. The little guy wasn't biting as he needed more time to recover. I noticed that a lot of the girls on 2nd shift were a bit on the anorexic side, not my cup of tea, I like my girls curvy and there was plenty to choose from.
I finally saw the tall curvy girl coming out of the room with another guy and decided to keep my eye on her. I wasn't sure if I could get it up a third time but I sure was going to try. Melissa had worn me out. After letting her rest for a couple of minutes (she probably needed it with all the traffic she was getting), I approached her and started a conversation. She was Celina from Germany. I admitted that I may not be able to get it up but was willing to try. She assured me that she would be able to get me up for one more try. Another trip to the rooms and she started by kissing me all over while slowly caressing the little guy. Sure enough, she got me up again and gave me one of the best BBBJs that I ever had. She stopped long enough to let me finger her clit (no DATY for me with SPs) and wanted to fuck. On with the rubber while making good conversation. A few positions and I finished doggy while gripping her big ass. I was close to the finish when I notice her asshole opening up and it was a tad shiny. No doubt she took anal recently. I would have asked for it if I wasn't so close and time wasn't running out. We chatted a bit and she asked me if I had dinner as she had missed it because she was busy. I admitted that all I had was dessert as I was also busy. We both had a good laugh over that one. Definitely, 50 euros well spent.
By then, it was 11:00pm and talking about food with Celina was making my stomach growl. I really wanted to stay and just soak up the atmosphere but I knew I couldn't get it up again any time soon.
I must say that my first trip to the Palace was memorable. I didn't experience any upselling at all, just a few girls that were really pushy. That really wasn't the end of my night. I kept thinking about the Palace as I tossed and turned. Finally, at 3:00am, I decided to try and get off by going to the Frankfurt RLD. I was staying at the Le Meridien so it was a short walk. After walking up a few stairs, I selected Daniela from Romania in T36. I just wanted a BJ and she worked on me for 15 minutes before getting frustrated and jerked me off. Not the best experience but it met requirements. 25 euros.
Upon getting back, I made airline reservations to head back to Frankfurt in a few weeks. I need to do a mileage run to keep my CO Plat status. I originally planned on going to Amsterdam to visit some of my favorite window girls but decided that the FKKs were the way to go. I'm also bringing a buddy with me as he needs to maintain status as well. We'll have some time so we may visit the other FKKs as well.
I do have a question that I hope someone can answer. Is it common for the SPs to do two guys at once? I saw this in the TV room and wanted to know from those more experienced which girls are open to that. My buddy and I like to double team girls ... we do this to my wife all the time!
Thanks for reading my first and very long winded post.
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Hi,
Couple of question for my first trip to Frankfurt.
I am in transit in Frankfurt next Monday arrive at 8.30 and leave the following morning at 7am to Middle East.
I was not going to book at hotel and just go for the evening to the Palace. 10pm to 3/4 am.
Is that long enough to take in the place? Even though closing time is 4am, does it clear out before this on Mondays? Do they server food after 10pm (a mans gotta eat)?
Thanks for all the reports - looking forward to it.
D
Dave Jamsis
11-13-07, 19:08
Stubnib,
Great report!
Wow, great report. I agree with you that of all the places to go in the world (not just Europe) FKK can't go wrong. Considering in Amsterdam for 50 EU you get CBJ which to me is a total turn-off anyways, and then very rushed sex. The ladies that work in FKK are incredibly passoinate (if you do your homework and be paitent). Let's face it, this sounds cheesy, but to me an expereince at the Palace is almost like an 'out of body' expereience. You meet and talk with a BEAUTIFUL woman that you pretend can be your girlfriend. For example, you go to a room, close the door, engage in very deep french-kissing. Your hands explore every part of her body. You lay down, she takes your cock in her mouth for a while, then she rides you till you cum. Then afterwards even gives you a massage? Ahhh. Dec 8th can't come soon enough for me!
Regarding SP. I have seen it before, to me if the ladies are willing to do anal, CIM, etc. , I see no reason not to take on two guys at once.
How much will she charge you for the few days??
Sorry it took me so long to reply - EU1000 for three days/nights
I was in Frankfurt for a couple of days after a gap of 17 years. Not one to miss any opportunity for mongering, I eagerly looked up the forum for the usual valuable tips on what to do, where to go etc. It seemed that all roads led to the FKK Palace so I decided to give the RLD a skip and go straight for the FKK scene. I was on my last night in Frankfurt after a grueling day in training, and was looking forward to the relief. Armed with a long list of recommendations (girl names) and a short list of girls to avoid, a few hundred Euros, a strong libido and am empty stomach, I finally made my way to the Palace at around 9:30PM. I was greeted at the reception by a lady who asked if it was my first visit. Having received an affirmative response she guided me through the rules/rates with typically German efficiency. E75 entrance, includes food and soft drinks, sauna etc, E50 for a standard 30 minutes, and any extras to be negotiated with the girls. Pay at the end. I was handed a towel and a robe with a key for two lockers – one tiny one for valuables and another one for my clothes. Strangely enough, the larger one also has a safe in it, so I did not quite understand the purpose of the small one.
Without further ado, I undressed, showered and proceeded to the main area in my robe. There were a number of guys there and a lot of girls as well. First impression was very good. Nice atmosphere, tasteful décor and great facilities. I was walking past a sofa when a girl grabbed my arm and started talking to me. Turned out to be an authentic German (Ella) and quite pretty too. Blonde, small built, very pretty – exactly my specs. Also, I was looking for a German girl as I have never had sex with a German girl before. I quickly negotiated what I wanted – FK, OWO, CIM. Although tempted to partake her offerings, I decided to walk around a bit and see what else was on offer. She promised to wait right there for me. After looking at some other girls, I realized Ella was one of the best for me. When I went back, she was (of course) gone. Disappointed, I went to get some food. Contrary to what I had read on the forum, there was plenty of reasonably good food. After a hearty meal, I spotted Ella eating at another table. Off we went in search of a room. One thing I noted throughout the evening was there was always a bit of a wait for a room; I guess that meant it was a busy night although there did not seem to be that many guys/gals there.
Read on for the real action...
Pegasus
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Ella started off with a few kisses on the mouth, and promptly announced that she preferred not to stick her tongue in my mouth (or vice versa) as she had a cold (yeah, right!). That was a turnoff and she earned her first negative point already. I quite enjoy FK with a beautiful girl. OWO was quite good, though somewhat mechanical. She kept asking if I wanted to finish in her mouth (so she could get the extra E50). On with the rubber and we went into missionary position. After a few minutes, she asked if I wanted a blow job. This was rather strange as most girls I have been with prefer straight sex to a BJ as it is easier for them. Seems that she could not breathe with me on top of her (and I am not even that heavy!). Anyway, this suited me fine as I am a BJ type. A few more minutes of a succulent BJ and I could not resist coming in her mouth although I had decided not to do so and save the E50 for another girl. Total time at this point was only 20 minutes. She was a bit rushed which was not great for my stress relief. Overall experience would be a 6 or 7 with a girl who was definitely an 8 or 9. She could have been more involved, but being 20 years old, I guess she still does not have the finesse of an experienced girl.
Feeling a bit disappointed with the early finish, I went into the sauna determined to get the best value for my entrance fee! Then I walked around a bit, caught some live sex in the TV room (I am a bit of a voyeur), had some drinks. Then I chatted with a few girls while watching some girls doing the pole dance. Firstly, a couple of girls (Estaphania from Italy and Monica from Spain) offered a lesbian show for E200 or a straight threesome for E100. Very tempting but the girls were not great looking. The Italian was at least very friendly. Then Jennifer from Hungary stopped by. Nice looking girl but totally disconnected. She kept looking around while speaking so I got rid of her very quickly. Lots of boobs on display of different sizes, colors, nationalities and shapes. I was actually unable to find anything that I really wanted. I was tempted to go for a second round, but to be honest, did not find anyone who really met my criteria, especially as the second one had to be better than the first. The only one of interest was a girl from Moldovia (Lorena) who seemed promising but disappeared with another guy and I was ready to go home by the time she came back.
Overall, a nice evening and well worth the money spent. The place combines a strip club with a swingers club and a sex club. Thank you all for many useful tips that were very valuable in deciding on this place. The Palace is highly recommended if you want to have a relaxed evening with some extra perks.
Pegasus
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Thanks Pegasus - good report and answers some of the questions I had.
D
Ekliges Lauern
11-17-07, 13:16
Both days I arrived at around 4PM. I'm wondering if the rail strike was affecting Palace attendance as it seems there were fewer men and women than usual as the evening wore on. Many of my favorite ladies were missing.
My first two sessions on Thursday were with regulars that I have reviewed elsewhere so I won’t go into details on those sessions. I noticed Czech Lina wandering around early on Thursday and then she disappeared for most of the evening. I’ve never sessioned with her and was curious as she is just so beautiful and although she has gotten mixed reviews, many mention that she gives a very nice BJ. As I was contemplating who to select for my third and final session, I notice her reappear heading for the Kino trolling for customers. I walk up to her and ask her if she would like to join me in the Kino. I’m sure she has seen me numerous times with Czech Linda ins Kino, so she knows what I have in mind. She says rather abruptly, “No”. Ok, das Zimmer then. Off we go.
Lina’s BJ is quite nice if somewhat mechanical. Not as good as Linda’s, but whose is. We fuck for a while and finally I let her finish me off earning the FT bonus. As it was my third session, it took a bit more effort than usual on her part. She swallows rather than spits. All very pleasant but, Lina is somewhat distant and mechanical. After the session, we have a nice chat. Lina shares a bit about herself and her hopes for her life. Now, as much as I enjoy a session with her friend Linda, I’ve never gotten to know what is under the act with Linda. Kind of nice to connect a little with Lina. Would I repeat with her? Once in a while, when I am in the mood for a better than average session with a really beautiful lady.
On Friday, I was determined to make new friends. I had noticed a spinner type, Elena from Spain, sessioning often and returning with happy customers. I decide to give her a try. Her BJ was off, fast and not sensual. Same thing with her fucking. It didn’t seem like she was trying to rush me, she just didn’t seem to have a feel for pacing. When the session starts off with a poor BJ, it seems to mess up my whole perception of the session. Anyway, I suspect Elena must connect and give a good session with others. We just didn’t connect. Would not repeat.
On Thursday, I noticed a couple Thais that I haven’t seen before as well as a girl who looks like she is from central Asia. I have yellow fever in a big way and more often than not have good sessions with Asian ladies so I wanted to give one or two a try. I notice a Chinese looking lady stretching out on the couch up on the upper level by the bar. I sit down and we chat, all the while our hands are roaming. Her name is Kim and she is from Mongolia. Off to the room we go. She starts out with a very pleasant BJ. She has one of those cute faces that looks really nice with a cock in her mouth. After an extended BJ session, we fuck a while with her on top. She gives a nice vibe without being over the top. Then we switch to doggy facing the mirror. As Borat would say, “Very nice”. She does try to rush me a bit, occasionally moaning “Spritz!” It doesn’t really bother me as I am really enjoying pounding her from behind and watching her in the mirror. Finally, sensing she is going to have to resort to stronger measures to finish me off, she fakes an orgasm and I fall for it. The half hour was pretty much up so I needed to finish up anyway. I would repeat with her as I enjoyed the session and the visual experience, even if she was gently trying to rush me.
For my final session, I just want a Kino BJ. I notice a German lady, Sandra, tall and thin with strawberry blond hair, giving another bloke a very sensuous BJ ins Kino earlier, so she is my choice for my final session. I park myself in the Kino and await her arrival. Eventually, she wanders in trolling for customers. She gave a very nice BJ, starting slow and sensual and building the pace over time. Now, I’m having difficulty finishing, but she just keeps going like the energizer bunny. Interestingly enough, while this is going on, about four different ladies that I have had Kino BJ sessions with at one time or another all wander in and are giving me looks. Much to Sandra’s relief, it was enough to send me over the top. All and all, a very enjoyable session with Sandra. I’ll pencil her in as a clean-up hitter, one of those ladies you can count on to get you off when it is your third or fourth session of the night.
Before I left, I hung around the main room for a bit. Chatted with Chinese Koko for a bit, but left not feeling a four session within me.
Hmm, I think I’ll head back to Palace tonight.
Is the rail strike still in effect? If so I guess a taxi will do so what would be a good location to tell the driver. I belive the town is called Industriehoft or something similiar. Can anyone help with info?
Thanks and be safe!
Is the rail strike still in effect? If so I guess a taxi will do so what would be a good location to tell the driver. I belive the town is called Industriehoft or something similiar. Can anyone help with info?
Thanks and be safe!
The U-bahn stop is called Industriehof-Neue Boese. The town is called Frankfurt am Main. The district of Frankfurt in which Palace is located is: Hausen. If you take a taxi, just tell them to take you to FKK Club Palace located in Hausen, an Industrial Quarter of Frankfurt.
Lina’s BJ is quite nice if somewhat mechanical. Not as good as Linda’s, but whose is.
You are aware, aren't you, that Czech Linda now works at Oase under another name, right?
Ortos
Can you describe Elena? She sounds like one of my favorites. Short, brunette, pretty face with enhanced breasts?
Both days I arrived at around 4PM. I'm wondering if the rail strike was affecting Palace attendance as it seems there were fewer men and women than usual as the evening wore on. Many of my favorite ladies were missing.
On Friday, I was determined to make new friends. I had noticed a spinner type, Elena from Spain, sessioning often and returning with happy customers. I decide to give her a try. Her BJ was off, fast and not sensual. Same thing with her fucking. It didn’t seem like she was trying to rush me, she just didn’t seem to have a feel for pacing. When the session starts off with a poor BJ, it seems to mess up my whole perception of the session. Anyway, I suspect Elena must connect and give a good session with others. We just didn’t connect. Would not repeat.
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You are aware, aren't you, that Czech Linda now works at Oase under another name, right?
Ortos
Didn't know that....
What's her new name, not that I'd confuse her with anyone else....
Ekliges Lauern
11-17-07, 23:49
You are aware, aren't you, that Czech Linda now works at Oase under another name, right?
Ortos
I am now. Probably reason enough to defect to Oase for my main club from Palace. Any idea why she moved over? She was at Palace for quite some time.
Ekliges Lauern
11-17-07, 23:51
Can you describe Elena? She sounds like one of my favorites. Short, brunette, pretty face with enhanced breasts?
Tis her. As I said she seemed to be popular so she must be doing something right. My guess is that for whatever reason there was a chemistry issue.
Thursday and Friday, 15 and 16 November ... Both days I arrived at around 4PM ... Wonderful report. Made me snoop into your previous reports. I usually avoid Europe for mongering, but your reports are changing my mind. Time to plan a 'business' trip to Frankfurt soon. Keep up the good work.
I am now. Probably reason enough to defect to Oase for my main club from Palace. Any idea why she moved over? She was at Palace for quite some time. She just felt like a change of sceenery. She goes by the name Adrianne or something like that which btw was the 5th name she suggested to take up at Oase (apparently her first four suggestions were already taken by working girls there)
Ekliges Lauern
11-18-07, 01:00
a few comments about palace. i'm a non-smoker, but i don't like the changes with the new smoking laws. i liked hanging out in the “loser lounge”. it had good sight lines to the kino as well as the return path from the rooms. i also liked the smokiness of palace. fkk sex is supposed to be dirty and the smoke filled atmosphere added to the dirtiness of the experience.
ok, and i’ve got to rant about the recent porn selection in the palace kino. for a kino denizen, palace has had the best variety and quality of porn out there in fkk land. oase and gt seem to show one porn movie over and over again. if you are like me and spend a lot of time in the kino, this gets old in a hurry. lately, palace’s selection of kino porn has just been odd. the czech girls gone wild disk (drunken czech cuties intermittently sucking off various male strippers in beer filled bar) and the rubber suit people disk were weird, but at least the sex was hot. tonight, they were showing some artcore all girls flick followed by a couples disk with, gasp, a plot. sorry, palace, i need a little more than that to get my blood boiling. i want to see some eastern euro chick blowing some guy while another dude porks her butt. and her friend should be licking her pussy at the same time. as a confirmed kino bj guy, some time i like to time my finish to the facial pop shot on the screen. kind of hard to do that with artcore girlie films or couples porn with more plot than porn. but i digress. on to the ladies.
have i mentioned i like kino bjs? anyway, vanessa from russia smothers me as i am hanging in the kino. vanessa is tall, a little big in the behind and has wavy dishwater blond hair. i’m pretty sure i sessioned with her in the past and vaguely remember it being a pleasant session. she is affectionate, playfully kissing and gently tugging at little radler. the kino bj is pleasant enough. i could probably end with that alone if i wanted to. anyway, part of the fun of ladies with vanessa’s build is that they are really fun and comfortable to fuck doggie style. so not feeling that much of a exhibitionist, off to the room we go. after some more bj and some ok missionary, i settle into doggie with her for a prolonged pounding. i’m getting a bit of a rep with the ladies at palace as being an easy mark for the ft bonus as vanessa starts a stream of dirty talk that would make john thompson of ggg fame blush (bonus points if you recognize the reference). i hold out for as long as i can, finally caving and giving her what she was looking for. we’re off to a good start.
i kill some time recharging and then i see chinese koko show up it street cloths. interesting how if you saw her on the street you probably would not turn your head. anyway i wait for koko to change and appear in the common room. interesting the transition as she is quite the doll when wandering the club. anyway, i wisk her off to the room. koko is very friendly and really seems to like guys who repeat with her. koko also wants to introduce me to her friend kim. sorry, koko, beat you to the punch last night. anyway, a nice bj followed by sex in with her on top, followed by doggie and finally mish. when it comes time for koko to extract the ft bonus, she really has to work hard to earn her extra euros. she perseveres and is successful in the end. she even comments that the quantity is a bit less than usual (the girl has some memory). as i look at my watch as we are leaving, i notice we are coming up on 40 minutes. i give her the standard half hour amount plus the ft bonus. nice customer service on her part not asking for another 50. i would have paid if she insisted, but would have been less likely to continue to repeat with her.
at this point i am thinking of calling it a night. i have dinner and hang out for a while. czech linda could probably have extracted the ft bonus from a third session, but i’m not sure there are many others that could. anyway, i hang in the kino for an hour or so hoping to coax a kino bj out of czech lina. no dice. eventually, up to my corner comes dutch leona. i’ve sessioned with leona twice in the past. the first time was a rather rushed but satisfactory kino bj. the second time was an extended in room fucking session. leona is a dirty girl, in the best possible way. when i was fucking her doggie style, she insisted i finger her ass. dirty can be very good. anyway, she starts out slowly the way i like it for about 2 minutes until i get hard. then she goes into a frantic hyper bj complete with a hummingbird speed handjob. the way she has her arm positioned, she is beating the shit out of my balls so i tell her to slow down and move her arm. she slows down and moves her arm for about 30 seconds and is quickly back to beating the shit out of my balls. after about 10 minutes, she gives up the bj and goes to hj only mode. i abort the session at this point and cut my losses. i think if leona doesn’t make you cum in 5 minutes with her hyper bj/hj, she doesn’t know what to do. or she is just lazy. as i mentioned, i had a very hot fuck session with her in the past but would not repeat after tonight. can’t win them all.
Haha Radler, never thought about that but you are right. The quality of the pron at Palace is pretty high :)
On another note, anyone seen if Salome from Brazil has been showing up regular at Palace? Thinking about going to FRA.
Was Elena there on Thursday as well as Friday? I plan on going to Palace on Th next week. Elena is a very passionate kisser.
PALACE REPORT (11/3-11/8)
Hello, after 1.5 yrs of the last visit, I finally had some chance to visit Frankfurt and went to PALACE and OASE.
This is a report for PALACE.
After I stayed one night in the good ole A'dam (don't remember what I did..), I took ICE(108E) to Frankfurt and I checked in Excelsior Hotel (53E/night) right next to the Hauptbahnof, then I was back in PALACE by 6PM.
There were the same ladies at the cashier and asked the same questions like always "Have you been here before?". That questions would be repeated many times during the stay. The place looked a bit different, as many people mentioned up here. The bars are basically same, but there were more rooms in the back and the chilling area was completely moved (which was a great place to take a nap!!)
I was a bit stoned from good staff from A`dam, but could recognize many girls from the last time (May and June 2006), such as Daniella, Lene, and some others. This time around, I came for so-called Opti-fuck, but here are quick reports on who I spend....
ANGELINA (ANGELICA from Czech? Romania?)
While I was smoking in the back room, she came in and had some conversation. Although she was not that chatty, she looked good enough, so I asked her to come to a room with me. Not sure how old she is (maybe around 22?), she had a body of gymnast with semi-long brown hair with some blonde mix. Sex with her was good enough, but not special. I finished with my load over her mouth and tits(extra 50E). I saw her all time time during my visits, but for some reason, I did not repeat (maybe because I did not connect with her).
Overall: B-
DANIELLA (Romanian)
Here is one of the most famous girls from PALACE. She was always nice last time, so I asked to go to a room. Now, she looked a bit different with her hair that way (sorry, could not describe how it was), but her service was as good and slow as the last time (and she remembered me which was cool). I enjoyed several position and finished in her mouth. She was cool enough to smoke with me past 30 min, but did not ask for anything more.
Overall: A-
ANDRA (Romania?)
I saw this cute girl who has been walking around, but did not hook up with her till the 2nd Day at PALACE since I thought she would be one of those men-processors. It turned out to be that she was one girl I really connected during this trip, and had 3 separate sessions (100E/1hr each). She seems that she was really having a good time with me, or at least I felt that way (which is one of the important essence of good providers.) She was making herself come, instead of making me cum!! Overall, she really had a good smile, like Sara Michelle G and love to see her again when I have a chance to go back, however I felt YMMV with her (maybe she is like Lena..?).
Overall: A
OVERALL:
Went to PALACE 11/3, 11/6 and 11/8 and stayed for about 4 hours each night. The line-ups were not as impressive as the last time (summer 2006), with missing talents, such as Magda and the others people mentioned on this board, and the fee is up tp 75E now. I also went to OASE, but I felt OASE has some edge over PALACE with its line-ups and facility.
Regards,
Samurai,
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Hessen Bub
11-18-07, 12:33
The only one of interest was a girl from Moldovia (Lorena) who seemed promising but disappeared with another guy and I was ready to go home by the time she came back.
She's from Romania, but who cares. I can just assure you that you missed a great session with a terriffic girl. Shame on you. ;-)
HB
Hessen Bub
11-18-07, 12:37
On another note, anyone seen if Salome from Brazil has been showing up regular at Palace? Thinking about going to FRA.
I've seen her on all my visits during the last weeks. But you never know what days the girls turn up.
HB
Didn't know that....
What's her new name, not that I'd confuse her with anyone else....
Hey,
Adrienne is what she is using these days. As you know, she is hard to miss. Trolls the bar area and the Kino now and then. I rarely see her sitting.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hessen Bub
11-19-07, 19:24
Trolls the bar area and the Kino now and then. I rarely see her sitting.
True. But have not seen her last Friday.
HB
I visited Palace after a few months of absence. I noticed that the girls I had sessions with previously were all missing. I don't know if they are still around, or they have moved on to a bigger and better thing (or moved to another club). So it almost seemed like a fresh start to me.
During the day, I spotted Vanessa from Poland. I had an okay session with her before. But certainly not a mind blowing one. So I continued my hunt.
I spotted this tall, incredibly good looking blonde in her early 20s. Her name is Daisy and she is from Romania.
At Palace, IMHO, Romanians are the best looking bunch. But most of them are just processors, at least from my past experience. But Daisy was so good looking and no way I can pass her. So we went to kino and had a session there.
This was my first public session, but it felt okay, since it was during the daytime and there was only one guy in the kino. I am not an exhibitionist, but I read someone's suggestion that girls tend to be in their best behavior in kino for advertising purpose. So I was counting on that.
She gave me a very good bbbj, but she did not want me to play with her breast, that was a bit of turn off. Also, as soon as we finished, she wanted to leave -- another turn off. Overall, it was just an average or slightly better than average session. I would rate her 9/10/8 (face/body/service). I may repeat her if I go during daytime.
Then I took a few hour break and came back around 8 PM. I spotted the usual Romanian contingent lead by Olympia. She really acts like a queen bee, IMHO. Then I spotted this incredible good looking girl. She is Andra from Romania, and I remembered Samurai X's report. So I gave a try.
No sooner than entering into the room, she started upselling for extra time, CIM, etc -- a bad sign in my book. I told Andra that I wanted to see how our chemistry work before making any commitment. As soon as I said that, she turned into another Romanian processor.
She gave me rather weak bbbj, and very brief DATY -- she pushed me away after just a few seconds. No digits. Only one position, and as soon as we were done, she was ready to get out of the room after 10 minutes.
This might be totally YMMV, but I suspect you need to make an upfront commitment in order to receive a decent service from Andra. Perhaps 1 hour minimum. And I was not willing to do that. So good luck and be aware. I would rate her 10/10/4 (face/body/service). No repeat for sure for me.
i think i must change my car. it’s an automatic, you see.
a bit like the blind dog that can’t get out of the habit of leading his master every day to the liquor store, i get in my car and before i know it, i find myself outside an fkk club. completely automatic. it can’t go on any longer.
that’s how i found myself sitting at the bar at palace at 10.30 last thursday morning, in the usual hessendress, and wondering why. as many of you know, i am not the greatest fan of this club. but just to show i bear no long-term grudges i decided to try the early shift once, which i have never done before. so, armed with a few deadly tips from hessen bub, i was ready for battle. and i must conclude – not for the first time – that bub really knows his girls. and i suspect our tastes are pretty similar.
but first thing to notice is one huge improvement: the club is virtually non-smoker now. there are smoking rooms, which are well used, but most of the main areas are now free of smoke. and you can see into the one main smoking enclave, so if there’s a girl there that interests you, you can still go in there to contact her. more than one girl told me she had significantly reduced her cigarette consumption. it seems to work very well for everyone.
palace is a totally different game in the morning and early afternoon. there are far fewer girls and customers there, softer music, bar staff attentive, people much more relaxed. even the woman at the entrance was in a friendly mood, and we know that doesn’t happen often. most importantly the girls are less stressed and have to earn a session because the men are not queueing up.
of the six that bub advised me to look for, i found three with little difficulty. a fourth and fifth were almost certainly not there (i assume from there nationalities they are dark-skinned, and there were no dark-skinned girls there), leaving just one that i didn’t managed to identify. that’s not bad at all, as it’s never easy to find a particular girl at a large fkk. in all i had two electric sessions, one average and one poor. the last was my own choice at a time where the shifts were changing and i got it wrong. i didn’t really care by then. i’d had some fantastic sex already.
angelica, omsk, russia
over 30 i guess
slender, average height, a/b breasts
short black hair
smoky voice
angelica is not a great beauty, but she is a mischievous smiling sexy girl. humorous. her pre-session antics left me in no doubt that she was hot indeed, and i didn’t bother to check on services and motivation, this girl clearly wanted to have sex. superb prolonged french kissing. she knows how to do it, and loves it. i decided on an hour after three minutes of that, and i wasn’t disappointed. heavy-duty, sloppy bbbj, and she turned her arse right to me, so that i got the view, and could roam happily with the hands and fingers. this led inevitably to a prolonged session of 69. she was absolutely determined i was going to finish in her mouth, and by god, she nearly won that battle, but i held out by pushing her playfully away a few times, but it was a damned close shave. not that i didn’t want to finish that way necessarily, but i wanted to use the whole hour, so good were all the sensations. i’m glad i did too, because she is no less expert when we deployed the condom. i was constantly changing positions simply to give myself a chance to hold on. finally she got me in doggy, as we both looked forward into the mirror, and she kept giving me such lewd looks and accompanying commentary. could hold back no more, especially as she encouraged me to smack her arse as i came. :-)
i shared a coffee with a romanian guy, and he helped me identify vanessa, another on bub’s list. but she was always drifting around, and i lost sight of her for a while. no matter, because i noticed that bea, thailand, had arrived. well, she pronounces it bee.
bea, bangkok
mid-twenties
very thai-looking, but quite tall
long black hair
slim, beautiful face and body
tuned c breasts
i’m sure i have met bea before. she said she had only been at neunkirchen for two days, but i am sure i was with her on one of those days. but it’s a couple of years ago, and she’s a fixture at palace now. only works early shift, and only thurs-sat, says she can relax better with this work rhythm. and she has clearly polished up her act now too. she is a superb, experienced performer, available for everything, although she will only do anal if she feels comfortable with the guy’s behaviour and skill.
i think she is very beautiful, with a wonderful smiling face and bubbly talkative personality. just perfect arse, couple of great handfuls. in the room she is just perfect for girlfriend sex, and i asked her to relax with me for an hour. with my first shot behind me i was able to pace myself much better. and she knows exactly how to do it all. long, langurous kissing, and even better bbbj than angelica’s with deep gazing into your eyes. oof, i was in trouble. in 69, she really got going, you know that great feeling when a beautiful girl suddenly starts to lose control, and almost becomes another animal. so it was with bea, and she slowly surrendered and climaxed powerfully, although – being a good thai girl – not tooooo noisily. lol. as we moved on, i spent a lot of time gazing at her magnificent swollen moist pussy from so many angles. i’ll not forget the doggy for a while, the view of her graceful arched back as she got down really low to increase the grind. special stuff from a special girl.
after an appropriate rest i moved in on vanessa before i lost track of her again. things were beginning to speed up mid-afternoon.
vanessa, kattowice, poland
early twenties
quite long dark-blonde streaked hair
medium height
solarium tanned skin
magnificent slim body and long legs, but with natural c breasts
she is no doubt a real beauty, but i wasn’t at all sure about the chemistry. although she talks quite easily, she doesn’t smile, i didn’t feel she was identifiying with me at all. and so it was too. optikfick, no more. maybe others get more from her. but there’s nothing wrong with an optikfick with a sensational body. and she is not unskilled either. kissing, yes, but with no great conviction, bbbj a touch too soft, but the sex was very good. cowgirl is always great with a girl like this, as she arches back and levers herself on your dick. great sight. and if you then pitch her forward and start pumping, you get those perfect breasts swaying no more than a few centimeters in front of your increasingly boss-eyed gaze. wow. :-) :-) i probably would not repeat with her, as she also cheated me a little on the time, but you don’t forget one such as vanessa so quickly either.
ate hungrily after that, and talked to lots of new girls. i sensed the sharks were swirling around in ever decreasing circles. i knew i only had time (and energy) for one more shot. on reflection i should have gone for pot-pourri in the kino, where the public display may have drawn an honest performance from a girl. but i didn’t because i thought i had made a good choice in
ainoa (that’s how it sounds), argentina
early twenties
curly shoulder-length hair, brown
medium height
b breasts, slightly chunky around the waist
but i hadn’t. ainoa has a great smile, and sexy voice, and is truly friendly. i think she seriously believes she is a great provider. at any rate she promised me everything i broached, and started enthusiastically enough on the couch, but as so often at palace, things were a little less enthusiastic when we reached the room. kissing was perfunctory, which never goes down well with me. i went down on her, to see if that would get her going, but it was soon clear she was in processing mode. shame. i used her quickly, got out of the room after twenty minutes and paid her unemotionally. it was time to leave. but i’d had a better time at palace this time, no doubt about that.
This might be totally YMMV, but I suspect you need to make an upfront commitment in order to receive a decent service from Andra. Perhaps 1 hour minimum. And I was not willing to do that. So good luck and be aware. I would rate her 10/10/4 (face/body/service). No repeat for sure for me.
Hey Rain,
Nope, that was my experience as well with her. Most of the Palace Romanians have their set 30/60/90 minute programs and with most of them the 30 minute deal is a waste of time and money.
Personally, I try to avoid those girls. Call me old fashioned, but I still believe that a gal's good performance should earn a longer session and not the other way around.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Vito Corleone
11-24-07, 15:32
Hey Rain,
Nope, that was my experience as well with her. Most of the Palace Romanians have their set 30/60/90 minute programs and with most of them the 30 minute deal is a waste of time and money.
Personally, I try to avoid those girls. Call me old fashioned, but I still believe that a gal's good performance should earn a longer session and not the other way around.
Cheers,
DedalusWassup Deda,
I must concur with your experience with Andra & other Romanian chicks. I know Beffen loves her, but my experince with her was Crap.
Hessen Bub
11-24-07, 18:11
@Toscana: Glad to hear you had some good sessions with the girls. ;) Vanessa does one of the best blow-jobs in FKKs in Germany, I've had her sucking my cock for an hour and then coming into her mouth, unbelievable.
To the Romanian bunch: There's a lot of average or below average service Romanian girls, but there's also some very good looking girls with great service. Carina, Lorena, Olympia, Laura, Claudia - I've had very good times with them. "Crazy-Daisy" does look good, but she hates the job and there's no good service to be expected from her. She had a long break but she's back again now.
Andra - never been with her but heard different opinions, most good reports where on sessions >30 minutes, but I never tried her.
There's a new thai girl (TAN) at Palace: short hair with blonde highlihts, skinny, small, but a great session with her.
Hessen Bub
To the Romanian bunch: There's a lot of average or below average service Romanian girls, but there's also some very good looking girls with great service. Carina, Lorena, Olympia, Laura, Claudia - I've had very good times with them. "Crazy-Daisy" does look good, but she hates the job and there's no good service to be expected from her. She had a long break but she's back again now.
Yes I agree – unfortunately – Daisy might be a nice person, but she never gave a good or even passionate service the times I was with her. I agree about the great service from Lorena, I like her a lot.
Since you're probably one of the few persons who was nicely treated by Olympia, I would absolutely not recommend her to anybody. She might give you a good service when she sees you as a regular. According to my own experience and a lot of reports, good service seems to be rather the exception. I think she's just lacking attitude. I admit, I would like to repeat with her, but I really don't see how.
But, you stated that yourself a few threads below.
I had a session with Lorena, and Bea also.
Lorena told me she is from Moldova, but as I read the reports, I knew she was from Romania. I suspect Rumanian girls know their bad reputation, and when they want to separate themselves from the bad preconceived notion, they would present themselves as Moldovan, Hungarian, or whatever.
Unlike other Rumanian, Lorena did not rush the service. She stayed with me the whole 30 minutes. She had a great muscle control, and overall the session was very satisfactory. I would rate her 8/8/8 (face/body/service). I would repeat her next time.
Bea is one of the most attractive girls in Palace IMHO. Her smile, her pleasant personality, beautiful face and body, and her skills in the room make her one of the top girls. She is the opposite of Andra (Romania). I stayed with Bea for 1 hour twice, because I was very happy with the experience with her and I rewarded her accordingly. I would rate her 9.5/9.5/9.5. Repeat in a heartbeat.
As Dedalus mentioned, it should not be the other way around. We should not have to make 60 or 90 minutes commitment upfront in order to receive a good service.
I concur with a lot of people's opinion. Yes, there are a few Romanian girls who would provide a good service, but they are exception to the rule. It's very unfortunate because a lot of them are so attractive and they could be absolute top performers if they had the right attitude. But perhaps they hate what they do and do not want to be a top performer? Just my 2 cents.
I concur with a lot of people's opinion. Yes, there are a few Romanian girls who would provide a good service, but they are exception to the rule. It's very unfortunate because a lot of them are so attractive and they could be absolute top performers if they had the right attitude. But perhaps they hate what they do and do not want to be a top performer? Just my 2 cents.
.. and it shows in their attitudes and service.
On the other extreme, there are girls who really enjoy their work and who are a pleasure to be with because they react in a totally natural manner; none of that fake moaning, etc..
Hessen Bub
11-25-07, 14:50
Some women just aren't cut out for this work..
.. and it shows in their attitudes and service.
Did it ever come to your mind that some women do not do the job on a voluntary basis? That does sometimes explain why they do not provide excellent service.
HB
Goodtime Man
11-25-07, 16:04
Repeating a question posed earlier, what will Palace be like in the week after Xmas and surrounding New Years? Do many girls go "home"? Does anyone have any experience in recent years on what the activity level is like after Christmas and through New Year's Day?
Did it ever come to your mind that some women do not do the job on a voluntary basis? That does sometimes explain why they do not provide excellent service.
HB
There is the whole theme of Zwangsprostitution which hangs over the whole scene. This is the reality of things.
Tiger Larry
11-25-07, 22:17
I finally took the plunge and tried the much talked about Palace. I have read and acquired lots of information from this forum, so it is only fair that I share the same with fellow readers and contributors (I’ve never done this before). This report is aimed for newbie (especially the beginning part). I’m sure it has been written many times before, but a fresh version will do no harm!
Flew in to Frankfurt Airport on Sat noon, then took a taxi to Flemings Hotel at Neuen Borse. Taxi cost €28, about 20 minutes ride. Flemings charged €75 for Sat, €119 Sun. The hotel is a nice modern contemporary outfit, have pleasant staff; very quiet on the days I stayed. Location is perfect for the Palace, especially for newbie and the more nervous mongers. Palace is literally behind Flemings, very convenient if you’re intending to nip over the hotel in between sessions at the Palace. If you want a busier atmosphere and a central city location, Flemings neuen Borse is not the place; there is nothing to do or see here (apart from Palace). Having said that, this Flemings is only three minutes walk to the Industriehof train station (U6 and U7 lines) and six/seven stations to main downtown shopping centres (Hauptwache / Konstablerwache). By the way, if your budget is more limited, stay at the nearby Ibis Hotel, a five minute walk to Palace, and almost half the price of Flemings.
I strolled nervously to the Palace at 1pm. Paid €75 for the entrance fee. The lady asked my shoe size and then gave me a towel and a key that is attached to a wrist binder (something like bracelet). She also bound a tag around my wrist, possibly a way to confirm that I have entered legitimately. The same key gives access to your locker (where you store your clothes) and to your money locker (where you place your cash). I was confused here but a fellow monger at the front bar explained to me. Here’s what you do. After getting the key, proceed to the changing room. Undress completely and store your clothes in the changing room locker. Wrap yourself with a towel or use a robe Take your cash out (suggest you have Euros in fifties – handy because ironically everything comes in fifties here). Then go back to the front; the much smaller lockers just in front of the front bar are for the cash. Keep your cash here. You do not carry cash around with you in the premises. After a session with a girl, she will follow you back to your cash locker where you pay her.
I was very lucky to hook-up with two friendly punters; one is a regular from Italy and another from Canada. It made my visit more exciting and we had a lot to talk about and exchanged stories in-between sessions. We sat mostly at the front bar by the main entrance. Here, the lighting is much better. We saw new girls coming in to work, and watched other punters settling their dues with the girls. The body language of the men can tell how much they enjoyed (or not) the sessions with the girls.
The available girls are mostly in the main lounge and a few are in the kino (cinema) and smoking room. Make yourself comfortable in the main lounge or the bar in the main lounge. Scan the girls and make eye contact with the one you like. Some of the more aggressive girls will come to you. If you don’t like the girl, just say that you’re tired; no need to be direct or offensive. I also walked around the lounge to assess the girls subtly. The lighting inside is not very bright, so it’s a good idea to walk around.
At 1pm, there was limited number of girls. Probably, about 10. Slim picking. The number increased to about 50 girls by 8pm. By then, from a predominantly Eastern European choice, it expanded to a more international flavour (Chinese, Thai, South and Central America). The ratio between male: female is hard to gauge, but I would say about 50: 50. I finally engaged my first girl after two hours in the place (the common advice in this forum is that yes. Don’t rush, take your time; don’t engage hastily). My preference has always been dark-haired and voluptuous girls.
My first girl was Melissa, about 28-30 years old from Costa Rica, brunette, about 5’ 4", curveous meaty side, B/C natural tits, has reasonable English. Very friendly, lovely wet oral without condom, French kissing. I didn’t last long with her because she is a master in vaginal squeeze. She gripped the penis so tightly with her vaginal muscles. I saw her stomach sunk to enable that vaginal grip. What an experience, but I prefer the natural grip. 30 minutes, €50. Overall, satisfying; pretty good GFE; I gave her 7/7/8 (face/body/sex). I don’t give 10s, and 9 has to be exceptional.
My second was shortly after dinner. This time, was Daniella, a recommendation by fellow forum contributor, raincity. He introduced me to her by the front bar as she readied for the night. She is definitely a stunner, model grade, 25 years old from Romania, blonde, about 5’10-11", tall slender, B/C natural tits, good English. (Blonde and slim not my first choice usually, but I had to try her). Very friendly, great oral without condom, French kissing, great sex. 30 minutes, €50. Overall, satisfying; pretty good GFE; I’d give her 9/9/8 (face/body/sex). (Again, I don’t give 10s, and 9 has to be exceptional). She’s the next closest I could get to fucking a top tier model!
My third was Curly (or Karlie). I eyed her shortly after dinner, but felt that she wasn’t inviting enough (cold). But I gave in around 10pm and asked her for a round. I am a sucker for darker hair, darker toned body. She is tall, 5’11", 20 years old, great body, nice full arse, natural B tits, little passable English. She claimed to be half Venezuelan, half German. She didn’t seem to be engaging too many customers that night (we knew because we hanged out by the front bar). Depending on your taste, this girl is either a big "wow" in bed, or a "never again" type. My first two girls were slow to moderate sensuous kind of sex. Curly was the opposite. She was wild, her blowjob was hard and fast, and the riding was of equal tempo too. When she sucked, she maintained eye contact, very sexy! She did say that she likes to be pumped really hard. So I accommodated her request, and wow. Her screams were very vocal and genuine. Unfortunately, it was my third for the day (and suffering from jetlag), so the stamina was lacking (what an excuse). 30 minutes, €50. Overall, different and satisfying. I’d give her 8/9/9 (face/body/sex). (Remember, I don’t give 10s, 9 has to be exceptional).
At 11pm, I went for a 45 minute massage (called Intensiv). It covers the body, feet and face. Nothing sensual here; not really the best massage I ever had. I fell asleep partway, must be at least 30 minutes of the 45. Cost €45.
Sex with Curly occupied my mind, but there was no way I could do another session on the same night. I remembered she told me that she used to do hotel calls and prefers that. So I approached her again and offered her €200 for two hours at the hotel the next day (well, €50x4 – Palace going rate). She counter offered €400; I turned down and re-countered €300. No deal was reached, and I left it at that.
I left Palace at 1am. Knackered but happy with the experiences. If you are a newbie, Palace is definitely a good place to venture! Don’t think you’ll regret it. I’m thinking of coming back for a quick visit next week, time permitting. (Yes, Curly would be my first target).
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This is my first report ever. As I am new to this, I am justifiably more of a reader than a writer. But I have to thank you folks for all the very throrough and extremely useful reports.
I have recently been at GT, PHG, and this was my first trip to one of the main Frankfurt FKKs. I am currently at the Flemming Hotel looking at the Palace from my window. There is still time to head back, but I need some rest before crossing the atlantic tomorrow.
I clearly liked the Palace over GT (which I liked over PHG). Excellent facilities, very open layout which allows monitoring action and choosing targets, and not bad food. I arrived at 4:30pm, and it was quite empty, maybe a 20:20 ratio. The lineup (througout the day) was good but not outstanding. Roughly similar to what I had seen at GT or PHG, plus/minus personal tastes. My personal summary:
Angelica (Russia)
This is not an obvious choice given other girls at Palace, but decided to start with this based on what I had read on the forum. It was a great choice indeed, very enthusiastic, I think we liked each other and it showed. She truly enjoys this, and has a way of turning you on regardless of your state of mind. I find that much more interesting than the usual checklist of acronyms, most of which where included. With cim, total 100.
Looks:6/7
Performance:9
Vanessa (Russia)
I did not want to get on board the Russian Express, but it seems that I did. Angelica sent Vanessa (from Russia - there are plenty of Vanessa out there) my way. Tall, blonde with curly hair, could loose 8-10 pounds. But her approach was sending all the right signals to the GFE-dar, so I decided to go for it. Very similar to the Angelica experience, more sensual, less intense, but very much worth it. I do not speak German, so it was easier to chat with Vanessa than Angeica. Vanessa was the best person to have a conservation from the girls I met. With cim, total 100.
Looks:7/8
Performance:8/9
After some sauna, food, I decided to go a massage. 50 Euros for 45 minutes of intense massaging is a great deal. I completely followed all your advice and consciously ignored the Romanians which are always at center stage. After some chit/chat, I focused on two targets: Elina (?) from Russia, and Choco (?) a gorgeous black girl. They were two of the stunners in the Palace tonight, and I wanted to have either or both. After some time, I got
Elina(?), Russia
Playboy playmate lookalike, implants, but very sexy body and face. On the way to the room, she suggested a trio with her friend Choco. I would have minded a trio, but only after I had been very satisfied with each of them individually. When I told her that, she quickly started saying all the extras she offers, basically saying that she does not go to the room for a 50E session. I had no problem with that, so we went for a much more limited session (no kissing/DATY), ending with a cim to satisfy her financial requirements. Some may call this an optiflick, but what she did she did well, so I still think it is a great session to have a playboy buny look-alike give an enthusiastic blowjob with cim (100)
Looks: 9
Performance: 7
After this I lost a bit my desire to go with Choco and for any potential trio. Perhaps a mistake as I went for much more mediocre options after this.
Magdalena (Poland)
Probably the best legs in the Palace tonight as well as the tallest/blondest girl. I assumed that she was German but I was wrong. We went for a quick "normal session", no kissing/daty, but ok BJ followed with great doggie, perfect for her body.
Looks: 8
Performance: 7
Isabella (Hungary)
At this point I was thinking of either leaving or waiting for Choco. Neither happenned as Isabella from Budapest jumped on my lap and forced me to a room. Being weak physically and mentally, I decided to go for it, but the session was below average and completely not memorable. No kissing, DATY where she looked on the ceiling, etc. Should have waited for Choco.
Looks : 7
Performance : 6
It was midnight, but after this I decided not to stay any longer. Overall a good day, rough damage 550. I think I will return to the Palace because it is a very good FKK option and is very convenient for frequent travellers.
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Elina(?), Russia
Playboy playmate lookalike, implants, but very sexy body and face. On the way to the room, she suggested a trio with her friend Choco. I would have minded a trio, but only after I had been very satisfied with each of them individually. When I told her that, she quickly started saying all the extras she offers, basically saying that she does not go to the room for a 50E session. I had no problem with that, so we went for a much more limited session (no kissing/DATY), ending with a cim to satisfy her financial requirements.
Magdalena (Poland)
Probably the best legs in the Palace tonight as well as the tallest/blondest girl. I assumed that she was German but I was wrong. We went for a quick "normal session", no kissing/daty, but ok BJ followed with great doggie, perfect for her body.
Isabella (Hungary)
At this point I was thinking of either leaving or waiting for Choco. Neither happenned as Isabella from Budapest jumped on my lap and forced me to a room. Being weak physically and mentally, I decided to go for it, but the session was below average and completely not memorable. No kissing, DATY where she looked on the ceiling, etc.
CG- Nice report and it's always great to read the observations of a new contributor.
I noticed a trend in your session reports- FYI and everyone else's, a standard FKK session should always include kissing and DATY, and any SP who refuses to go to a room for a standard 50Euro session is trying to take advantage of your newness. Never go to aroom if there's no DFK and she won't allow DATY, or if she states outright that she won't go for a standard session. In fact at some clubs, they would not allow her to continue (nor would she manage to attract customers) with that attitude.
Hessen Bub
11-26-07, 14:38
a standard FKK session should always include kissing and DATY
Correction: DFK is NOT included in the standard session. Which means: If she does not want to kiss, she doesn't have to. But she should tell you in advance. And there's no way that kissing is charged as an extra. I know that a lot of guys think that kissing is included, but actually it is not. Nevertheless I do usually not go with girls that do not kiss.
HB
There is the whole theme of Zwangsprostitution which hangs over the whole scene. This is the reality of things.
Explain this in no uncertain terms please. Are you saying girls are forced to work there? I can understand if it is temporary to get into the country and be established, for instance. But I have talked to many girls and they all tell me it's their own choice, they owe nobody, and nobody ever made money bringing them to Germany to work.
By the way, is selection generally better leading up to Christmas as girls come from everywhere to make a little extra money and perhaps take some time off during and after Christmas? I'm thinking about making a trip around mid December and hoping for a smorgasboard. My first trip was in December and I don't remember it being all that much better than subsequent trips though.
Explain this in no uncertain terms please. Are you saying girls are forced to work there? I can understand if it is temporary to get into the country and be established, for instance. But I have talked to many girls and they all tell me it's their own choice, they owe nobody, and nobody ever made money bringing them to Germany to work.
By the way, is selection generally better leading up to Christmas as girls come from everywhere to make a little extra money and perhaps take some time off during and after Christmas? I'm thinking about making a trip around mid December and hoping for a smorgasboard. My first trip was in December and I don't remember it being all that much better than subsequent trips though.
On the first point: Don't be so sure you are always being told the truth...and your random sample may not represent even a significant part of the whole. Also, there are signs in a girl's behaviour that might signal certain things. But how many of these girls always speak English or German? Do you speak Russian, Romanian, Polish, Uzbeki, etc?
On the second point: You want the best selection, go to Palace during a Messe week. However, there are several negatives accompanying this timing: hoards of Messe men, bad environment, rushed service and obsene hotel prices. Since there are major Messe events a few weeks before and after Christmas, that is when you will see siginicantly enlarged line-ups. But it is also the case that if you can swim into the eye of the storm --that is go just in between two large Messe events, you might hit gold: Superlative girl selection and decent hotel rates as well.
Ortos
Explain this in no uncertain terms please. Are you saying girls are forced to work there? I can understand if it is temporary to get into the country and be established, for instance. But I have talked to many girls and they all tell me it's their own choice, they owe nobody, and nobody ever made money bringing them to Germany to work.
On the first point: Don't be so sure you are always being told the truth...and your random sample may not represent even a significant part of the whole. Also, there are signs in a girl's behaviour that might signal certain things. But how many of these girls always speak English or German? Do you speak Russian, Romanian, Polish, Uzbeki, etc?
The reality of this is that it does exist and I say it is a hot topic because there are off and on discussions in the government to not just go after those who force women into the profession but also those who patronize these women.
These discussions heated up during the World Cup matches held in Germany last year. Rest assured that is not the last time this topic will be brought to the fore.
According to these proposals, the intent is to have the burden of proof fall on the customers, in other words, customers will have to take steps to make sure their temporary girlfriends are there of their own free will.
I have no idea how one would actually perform this verification step. These proposals open up all sorts of issues.
Prostitution is not illegal in Germany. It is not illegal for punters to patronize prostitutes. Pimping is illegal but it does exist.
Zwangsprostitution does exist and I say this in no uncertain terms. More accurately, some women got there via some kind of network which brings them in.
Picture a peasant chick from say Bulgaria. How is it that she'd ever figure out how to make on her own to an FKK club in say, Hessen when she barely speaks five words in German?
My approach to this is simple: stick with Western European women, z. B. German women. They presumably have many more choices than EE women do and presumably also aren't as tainted. (Note I say as tainted. The truth is that some of them do have "boyfriends" or "husbands" who stand in the background.)
Hessen Bub
11-26-07, 19:13
I would say that up to 50% of the Eastern European girls do have some kind of friend or manager, whatever you wanna call it. They are not allowed to keep 100% of the money they make, the share will differ immensely. There's not only black or white, there's a lot of grey in this business. And most of the girls will not always tell you the truth about the background they do have, but what do you think how all these young Romanian, Bulgarian, Polish, Hungarian girls do come to Germany? (Most of them do not speak a word of German or English when they start their "carreer" in Germany).
There's organized crime behind it, looking for young girls in these countries and bringing them to Germany and other Western European countries. If the girls want to get away, they are threatened: Violence to themselves or their relatives, telling their family what they really do in Germany and so on. They do have to pay a certain sum of money to quit or to bring a new girls. That's a fact. If you don't wanna live with it, stop clubbing. Stop using prostitution. I've seen this quite a lot of times, and it is not very nice to see, to hold a girl crying in your arms ...
And yes, there's also those very independent girls working for their own pocket, keeping all the money, spending it, sending it back to their family, investing it into a better future or whatsoever. There's girls that do get along with this job quite good, other wil have it in their nightmares forever, some do need drugs and booze, others don't.
So if a girl does not provide passionate service, maybe she's just afraid not to bring up the money she was told to bring up in a week and is frightened to get beaten up again?
Just my 2 cents on the subject. Keep on fucking.
HB
Consider for a moment how girl x living in a very eastern country, let's leave out Czech-Poland-Hungary to make it simpler a) finds out about the FKK club that she is in, b) makes arrangements for entry documents, travel, interview in club, job, accomodation etc. c) purchases a starter set of clothes, knows little of the language etc etc, in other words arrives in the club ready for work. Now consider yourself being that girl and how would you do it ?
There are a few answers. Very lucky if you know a trustworthy friend who has been there and done that and arranges it all for you. This will be a small minority. For the majority, there is an arranger who does it. For a fee. You don't have the euro's to pay it, of course? Well then you agree to "work your passage" - literally and figuratively front and back when you get there. Costs - whatever plus a large margin for the effort. Pay over time. So the majority have an "impressario" who arranges everything and takes a large fee or cut. Most continue to use the services of the agent even on multiple trips. Why? Because the agents have a direct agreement with the clubs to supply girls.
Girls who make the move permanently can indeed "freelance" and as always there are exceptions that can do it once they are established performers. Since the EU has reached a number of Central European countries, it has become somewhat easier and will continue to get easier for girls to enter into Germany on their own.
As bad or worse, is the local 'boyfriend". A number of girls have them possibly because they are somewhat vunerable mentally in their work. After all evening, they leave the club and crawl into bed with the boyfriend in an attempt to establish something akin to a normal life. Many mongers will have heard at one time or another " I don't do "X", only with the boyfriend, or only in my private life".
But two examples from two very well known clubs considered to be very much in the Premiere League- not dumps in the last few months.
Girl "x" has strong bruises to her breasts and body. Tells inquiring clients that she had a session with a rough customer who squeezed her hard during. Real story, the "boyfriend" beat her up badly and took off.
Girl "y" with a bit of wild look in her eye hurls herself literally upon a client demanding a session from him and DFK-ing him instantly before he can react. Client immediately extracts himself from her embrace as it is a bit over the top even for this true monger.
Later in speaking with two other girls, Girl "y" is sitting alone at the other end of a long series of counches, and the the two girls had seen girl "y" hurl herself at the guest. Client says "What was that?" Answer from the girls: "Girl "y" is a bit crazy. Her "boyfriend" stole all her savings and took off. Now she is broke and going a bit mental because he took all her money and her self-respect."
So, there are often "dues" to pay one way or another.
Nick The G
11-26-07, 22:13
Most continue to use the services of the agent even on multiple trips. Why? Because the agents have a direct agreement with the clubs to supply girls. This is why it is so hard for the women to escape this vicious circle. The management of the clubs tells the girls: if you want to work here, you have to obey to the rules (of your business partner)! Business partners will have to pay the club management for this commitment-
But this game is driven not only by the management and the business partners. Mainly by us, the mongers, because we fully support this attitude by paying our 65-75 Euro for the gate to the clubs.
I would estimate that 90+% if not all of the women from EE have "business partners" in one form or another (with regards to the share they want). Especially when the women drink a little bit too much, often you can find them as a crying bundle telling bits of the true story.
Many german women working as prostitutes have a "boyfriend" of the type mentioned by Excess. The modern pimp comes in the dress of a "lover" to suit the needs of intelligent and "independant" women.
While most prostitutes try everything to become independent money-wise, they often have very low self-esteem and are so badly dependent and insecure emotionally. That too keeps them in the vicious circle in the "milieu".
@excess
There is sense in what you describe, though I think it is a bit on the downbeat (no pun intended) side. As they have this week begun dismantling border posts between Germany and Poland it is a great deal easier for a girl to make it independently across. And many have family here, genuine family. Also there are girls who travel who already do prostitution in their own country, so they are wised up. Also girls who've done the road trip help others who want to travel the same route. Hungarians are pretty clued up as well, go to any club in Hungary and you are awash in talent. Actually I am more prepared to believe that brutality and pimping are worse in the countries from which these girls come, than in Germany itself. East European pimps hate the idea of their girls doing the charity walk to FKK land. And don't forget there is a whole pay sex scene in Germany outside clubs and laufhäuse, touchingly called the Hobbyhure scene. Mongers should try to branch out while in Germany. If you have a budget of say 500euros why not for a change have a really classy act from one of the 'members' websites such as Freiclub.de, or free sites like nrwerotik.com. 6today.de, or sexrelax.de or eurobella.de - they are easy to understand. It's sex, so it should be!
@Jackyo
It is interesting that this topic is a discussion on an English speaking forum and never raised on the German forums. English speakers worry about the darkside because it is more prevelant in their own countries and 'the sordid world of girls forced into pay sex' is the politically correct attitude of the English/American press.
The furore during the World Cup was farcical. The Swedish government pleaded with Berlin to ban prostitution (how Swedish) the British govt wrote to Beckham and co asking them as examples of chaste behaviour to persuade the fans not to visit sex emporiums while in Germany. Incredible as all brit footballers do is order girls and booze by the gross! The Germans made all sorts of nice noises back, none of which they intended to follow up. The rate at which clubs are opening defies any pretence that somehow paysex is an issue in Germany. Raids are conducted on establishments, which I think is only fair on girls who want to work under good legal conditions. The raids are more akin to the fraud squad in normal business perhaps! Or even consumer protection! I wouldn't lose any sleep over the issue: not until the Russian mafia turn up on your door at least.
Yes, curiously enough there is no discussion in the German forums about the darkside of the business. It is either because it is taken for granted amongst our Teutonic colleagues that there is a darkside and there is no need to go there or we in the Anglophone world just have a natural curiosity about these things and need to have that curiosity sated.
It is funny too that there are differences in attitudes even between those of us who live on this side of the pond and those of you who live on that side of the pond. As a friend of mind has remarked, make a non-politically correct joke in the UK in front of an audience and folks laugh. Make the same joke here and the audience is shocked. We have no more sense of humor about these things, was his observation. We are significantly more straitlaced and puritanical.
And yes, you can be sure that working conditions for working girls where they came from are even less appealing than their working conditions in Germany.
There was a documentary on TV last year about the trafficking of Ukrainian women to Turkish brothels and it was almost like watching a scene from Dante's Inferno.
So the next time you are a club and you see women who stand on the side and get no customers, think twice. Everyone wants to have their fun visiting these clubs and one naturally gravitates towards the women who are more visually appealing but to these women on the sidelines just one more customer brings her one step closer to throwing off that yoke.
Face it, doing this type of work isn't a career choice for anyone.
As I've written before, my ideal scenario is finding a true amateur at these clubs: a chick who wants to make some money to meet some financial objective and enjoys sex so from her point of view, why not do it for some cash? But in the true sense of being an amateur, she does this only for a brief period of time and then moves on. Return to the club months after and she is gone. Every time I find one I am rewarded by an experience which is more authentic than the pros can deliver. If she really gets into it, I sometimes wonder who is servicing who.
@Jackyo
I recall being in Miami South Beach (before it became impossible) when political correctness was the hot topic in the US. I said at a dinner with friends, well you lot are so politically correct it's a wonder you bath naked. Stoney silence around the table. Remarking on political correctness then was itself an incorrect act.
The Germans understand it is not a topic worth the candle as many of them know personally girls who do make it a career choice. They should know they live here. I would flush this anglo-saxon conscience thing down the toilet. If you feel bad or have a twinge then don't do it, don't cherry pick, don't pick and choose your morals like a defrocked priest, or your girls like a man with 'guilt' in neon across his forehead.
Interesting: several of the Polish girls I talked to in Artemis come over the border as and when they wish. They heard about it from friends and organised themselves. The same goes for Goldentime Vienna. Some of the girls commute in daily by train from Bratislava!
I don't accept that it's my moral burden to change other people's behaviour. I look to my own behaviour in the clubs and am happy to finance a good provider's better standard of living. And I support regular checks on the clubs too. It keeps my environment cleaner and benefits the honest providers and clubs.
so the next time you are a club and you see women who stand on the side and get no customers, think twice. everyone wants to have their fun visiting these clubs and one naturally gravitates towards the women who are more visually appealing but to these women on the sidelines just one more customer brings her one step closer to throwing off that yoke.
so "do" the less appealing ones on the chance she might need the money to move beyond being some kind of sex slave? :) do you think maybe the slave master pimps recruit the ugly girls? it wouldn't seem like the smart thing to do. but maybe that would mean i can have a clear conscience by picking the babes.
interesting: several of the polish girls i talked to in artemis come over the border as and when they wish. they heard about it from friends and organised themselves. the same goes for goldentime vienna. some of the girls commute in daily by train from bratislava!
i'm not even sure i believe that many girls in the major german clubs are under someone's yoke but i would expect girls from countries with less education and limited computer access to be more susceptible. any girl that can use the internet and has good sense about her can figure out how to do it on her own. if she's being bussed off to turkey today she might hear through the grapevine how to do it on her own- go to germany. so i could definitely see a lot of the girls we know as having been a "victim" where she was being used and profited from at one time.
Nick The G
11-27-07, 20:21
As I've written before, my ideal scenario is finding a true amateur at these clubs: a chick who wants to make some money to meet some financial objective and enjoys sex so from her point of view, why not do it for some cash? But in the true sense of being an amateur, she does this only for a brief period of time and then moves on. Return to the club months after and she is gone. Every time I find one I am rewarded by an experience which is more authentic than the pros can deliver. If she really gets into it, I sometimes wonder who is servicing who.Maybe you've forgotten that you became a "Pro" too with your ongoing career visiting clubs! So - listen to the truth in your words - you became less and less authentic in your (sexual) behaviour!
Additionally, in your words too: "But in the true sense of being an amateur, she does this only for a brief period of time and then moves on." Since you do it for a long(er) time already, you left the status of being a "true" amateur in the "true" sense and, on top of that, you forgot to move on (in your life)!
Everybody has his or her own dreams, sure! Maybe the prostitutes dream of finding an amateur whom they can rip off as much money as possible.
What I'm wondering: why should a man like you with such experience and "professionel" skills look actively for amateurs? True? :-)
Nick The G
11-27-07, 21:02
Yes, curiously enough there is no discussion in the German forums about the darkside of the business. It is either because it is taken for granted amongst our Teutonic colleagues that there is a darkside and there is no need to go there or we in the Anglophone world just have a natural curiosity about these things and need to have that curiosity sated.
There is a simple and easy answer: it's business. Why should forum owners allow that their business partners be insulted or give the police a hint to take action?
Did you notice, that many of the german fora (forums) are free for members? Did you notice too the (massive) advertising for girls and locations in these fora? You think this advertising is for free? Running a forum costs money, some started their forum with enthusiasm but pretty soon found out, that this can be developed into a pretty good business, maybe some even live on it.
If it didn't start like this, it will sooner or later end up like that. Money makes the world go round!
Forum owners need to establish a good base with their business partners, otherwise nobody would pay for adverts, no money flows! Those who run one forum or even many fora address the market of mongers and can control information, the larger their imperium of fora, the better!
What do you know about the german sex fora scene? How many people control how many fora? Are they really independent when they need that money for living and spent half of their lifetime in those clubs? What about the dark side of this scene?
Additionally, the forum admins in many cases don't have to pay for the gate in those clubs, that advertise on their forum! You will find those admins there very very often!
Since the majority of customers of the clubs or brothels are germans, a foreign or international forum is not so important for this business in Germany. Most german customers want to fuck foreign girls, but want to write or read reports in german, they give a damn about an english forum!
Reports on pimping or related circumstances will be deleted and disappear from the forum within 1 to 30 minutes after they have been posted.
Reason 1: I discussed above.
Reason 2: in most cases the "information" is mostly speculation and gossip. Pretty easy: if someone is really sure about what he tells, and if he has balls, he should better address the german police directly! According to german laws, you are supposed to do that.
We all - germans included - who need PaySex consuming women in clubs/brothels support this dark side, no matter if we take it for granted or not!
Please don't take that personally: if you are really curious and want to find out, support this business and deliver first hand information by becoming a pimp yourself! :-) Become a member in the club of those who really know! I'm eagerly awaiting your first report here!
Felipe2006
11-28-07, 05:25
Bea, Bangkok - Mid-twenties - Very Thai-looking, but quite tall - Long black hair - Slim, beautiful face and body - Tuned C breasts
Only works early shift, and only Thurs-Sat, says she can relax better with this work rhythm. And she has clearly polished up her act now too. She is a superb, experienced performer, available for everything, although she will only do anal if she feels comfortable with the guy’s behaviour and skill. In the room she is just perfect for girlfriend sex. In 69, she really got going, you know that great feeling when a beautiful girl suddenly starts to lose control, and almost becomes another animal. So it was with Bea, and she slowly surrendered and climaxed powerfully, although – being a good Thai girl – not tooooo noisily. LOL. Special stuff from a special girl. Bee (or Bi or Bea, however you spell her "name") has been one of the star performers in Palace for a while. I´ve been a Palace regular for one year (ca. once a month), and have always booked with Bee if she was around. Nice girl, intelligent, she´s got stuff to talk about...and great sex of course:) She´ll be in Thailand from Dec to Feb, but wiil be back after that (so she says...). So hurry up if you want to see her soon...
...then I see Chinese Koko show up instreet cloths. Interesting how if you saw her on the street you probably wouldn´t turn your head. Interesting the transition as she´s quite the doll when in the club. Koko is very friendly and really seems to like guys who repeat with her. Koko also wants to introduce me to her friend Kim. Sorry. Anyway, a nice BJ, sex in with her on top, doggie and finally mish. Coco is less sexy-looking than Bee, but in terms of a good GFE session, she beats the pack at Palace. But as usual it all depends on the ´chemistry´... Even for a guy liek me that is not particularly into Asian girls, I have to say Bee & Coco are top - even compared to the Brazilians and other Latin Americans that I usually prefer. Suerte, Felipe
Love Palace
11-28-07, 09:27
I was in Palace Thursday and I had 2 good session with Bea, same experience as Toscana had with her. Seen her several times. Try to met her Thursdays. Should like to mention that her back is a full tattoo. Easy to recognize. Piercing in tongue is for me also a pluss. BJ is top. Only experienced the same with Alice (Dominican) and Lina (Czeck). Monday I was back in Palace and went 3 times with Lina. Super relaxed sessions with no stress and GF/CIM. Did not go with others, I have found my 3 favourites. It covers 3 continents and cultures. Feel I have a extra bonus as a regular costumer, treat them well are genourosly well treated.
Bee (or Bi or Bea, however you spell her "name") has been one of the star performers in Palace for a while. I´ve been a Palace regular for one year (ca. once a month), and have always booked with Bee if she was around. Nice girl, intelligent, she´s got stuff to talk about...and great sex of course:) She´ll be in Thailand from Dec to Feb, but wiil be back after that (so she says...). So hurry up if you want to see her soon...
Coco is less sexy-looking than Bee, but in terms of a good GFE session, she beats the pack at Palace. But as usual it all depends on the ´chemistry´... Even for a guy liek me that is not particularly into Asian girls, I have to say Bee & Coco are top - even compared to the Brazilians and other Latin Americans that I usually prefer. Suerte, Felipe
... that chicafan and nick the g are missing the point of this hopefully brief discussion. nick makes a number of good points about the fundamentals of the german forums, that they are, or have become, an [CodeWord130] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130) relationship between the two sides of the business. but so what, this happens in business. and i'm glad that this extends only to the backhanders and favours and free entrance and the occasionally gilded report, rather than enforced trading, threats and beatings. gilded reports appear in this forum too, as one member has admitted. no the point was the morality of paying for sex in a business where girls are forced to have sex.
I don't doubt that the main reason why there is less talk about the darkside of this business on the German forums is exactly as you mentioned: the connection between the fora and the advertising revenue.
It is not a topic I want to pursue with RF guys when I see them, I have to admit.
Now becoming a pimp, that is something I aspire to become.. not!
Maybe you've forgotten that you became a "Pro" too with your ongoing career visiting clubs! So - listen to the truth in your words - you became less and less authentic in your (sexual) behaviour!
Additionally, in your words too: "But in the true sense of being an amateur, she does this only for a brief period of time and then moves on." Since you do it for a long(er) time already, you left the status of being a "true" amateur in the "true" sense and, on top of that, you forgot to move on (in your life)!
Everybody has his or her own dreams, sure! Maybe the prostitutes dream of finding an amateur whom they can rip off as much money as possible.
What I'm wondering: why should a man like you with such experience and "professionel" skills look actively for amateurs? True? :-)
I'll have abandoned my amateur status when some chick starts paying me for servicing her. Wouldn't that be the difference between a pro and an amateur?
I also will have attained professional status when I figure out a way not to be scammed by these women. It still happens to me more often than I'd want to admit.
Just when you think you have the whole thing figured out is when they pull a fast one on you. It keeps me humble and on my guard all of the time: except at a Partytreff - which explains why I spend as much time as I do researching PTs.
My other "extracurricular" activities, which all take place locally, involve only amateurs, hence my interest in finding amateurs.
Sure the women are several notches below the visual standards at an FKK club but they deliver a much more authentic experience, its much more enthusiastic, they are much more spontaneous and they are also much more creative.
Ekliges Lauern
11-28-07, 17:16
Bee (or Bi or Bea, however you spell her "name") has been one of the star performers in Palace for a while. I´ve been a Palace regular for one year (ca. once a month), and have always booked with Bee if she was around. Nice girl, intelligent, she´s got stuff to talk about...and great sex of course:) She´ll be in Thailand from Dec to Feb, but wiil be back after that (so she says...). So hurry up if you want to see her soon...
Coco is less sexy-looking than Bee, but in terms of a good GFE session, she beats the pack at Palace. But as usual it all depends on the ´chemistry´... Even for a guy liek me that is not particularly into Asian girls, I have to say Bee & Coco are top - even compared to the Brazilians and other Latin Americans that I usually prefer. Suerte, Felipe
I've sessioned with Bee as well. She's certainly an attractive looking lady, but when I sessioned with her, I thought it was an average session and would not repeat. Maybe I just didn't have good chemistry with her. Concensus on this board seems to be that she is one of the better ladies at Palace.
Agree that Coco is less eye candy than Bee (if I had to guess, I'd say she is probably five years older than Bee). I have good chemistry with Coco, and although I usually prefer sessions with ladies with dirtier attitudes, Coco does give a nice GFE session if you have chemistry. I repeat with her as she is a nice change of pace from the Kino BJ queens I usually prefer.
I know there's a huge body of info out there on The Palace for first-timers, but I think for fellow hobbyists, "too much" info is "just right", no? I'm a beneficiary of useful info about The Palace that I read here, so I'm giving back now.
I'll start from your flight into Frankfurt Airport. Once landed, presumably in Terminal 1, take the escalator to the basement level. That's where the S-Bahn trains going to the city center are. Look for trains S8 or S9 at Platform 1. Before that, go to the automatic ticketing machine, press the button named "Einzelfahrt Frankfurt" and WITH an aeroplane symbol. Ticket price is 3. 55 Euros. Insert the appropriate notes/coins. Don't bother with other buttons. It's a 25 min ride (or less) into the city terminal called Hauptwache ("hop-vah-he"). From there, change to the U-Bahn train nos U6 or U7. You want to ride the train northwards to the station called "Industrihof/Neue Borse". This station is actually just a pair of platforms raised above ground, there's no "terminal building". More like a bus stop. The train ride from Hauptwache to Industriehoff/Neue Borse is really short. About 7 min only.
Once you alight, walk *across* the train tracks, and cross the road. If you didn't walk across the train tracks, you're probably headed in the wrong direction. When you have crossed the road and reached the kerb, you'd come smack into a coppery-color low stone wall. If you now turn left and walk, the Ibis Hotel is about 150 meters down the road. However, if you turn right instead, you're headed for the Palace. Walk for about 50 meters, and you'd see a 10-foot wide gap in the wall on your left. Walk through this gap, and you'd end up in a street called Konigsberger Strasse. Continue walking for about 150 meters straight down, and you'd see the tall yellow Flemings Hotel. Right below the hotel is the sign for The Palace (golden words on black background). It's the easiest thing in the world to find. You can't miss it.
A note about hotel. The Ibis (2-star) is great, nice and clean with good service. There's no need to pay double the price and stay at Fleming (4-star), although it's right next to the Palace.
The Palace is opened from 11am to 4am. You pay entrance fee of 75 Euros, and you're issued with a towel, and tamper-free wrist band, and another wrist band with a small key. The first wrist band is to allow you to exit and re-enter the place anytime within the operating hours for the day. The latter wrist band with key opens 2 lockers: a small one where you keep your money and valuables, and a bigger one where you keep your clothings, bag etc.
You pay the girl after the session, by walking her to the small locker and taking the money from inside. Give her the money, a peck on the cheeks, and off she goes.
Before anything else, you'd typically take a shower, thus the issued towel. There're plenty of towels by the reception area for you to use, as well as robes. I noticed that most men wear the towel around their waist, instead of a robe. So do the same. I later realised that with this, when the girl cosies up to you, you can feel more of her! The temperature indoors is well-regulated, you won't be cold.
Here's a rough layout of the place. You can also see from the web site www.the-palace. De: . 1st right: men's changing room, big locker.. Further down right, in hallway itself: small locker for cash etc.. 1st left: lady's changing room plus locker. More tips on this later.. Inside main vestibule, on left: small bar, and TV room (voyeur heaven, jaw-dropping live acts. More later). On right in main vestibule: nice rooms for sex, beautifully done up.. On higher level: bar plus lounge area.. On ground level: also lounge area.. Sauna room, jacuzzi, smoking room at the end.
You have all types of girls from an assortment of countries: Brazil, Italy, Germany, Czech, Hungary, Bulgaria, Rumania, Moldova. Some of the girls are rather plain, but there're definitely model types.
When I first reached at about 5pm on Saturday, there was only about 20 girls around, with many more guys. At around 7pm, more girls walk in, and more guys too, and that's when things started getting hot. Eventually when I left at midnight, there must be about 40 girls. Lots of men too of course. I realise that this is not necessarily a bad thing. The girls are going nowhere anyway, so if you fancy someone who's currently with some guy, just wait your turn! I realized that I could wait at the bar next to the lady's changing room; when a girl's done, she typically would go there, supposedly to freshen up and keep the money from her recent fuck session. You can approach her when she comes out.
The decor is great, reminds me of an Arabian Nights harem. Did I mention that all girls are completely naked? Except for perhaps some loin cloth or other pieces of fabric to enhance their nakedness. So no cellulite on thighs or birthmarks will go undetected. This is the great thing about FKK versus other places. There are girls lounging on their back with open legs, their pussy in full view. There's no drug scene, as far as I can see. Alcohol is not free, only Coke, Sprite, 7-Up etc come with the entrance fee.
Dinner was served at 6pm (free also). Meat patty, pasta, bread putting. Some fellow hobbyist commented it's funny to see men with towel around their waist and naked girls queuing up to get food. Actually, everyone is kind of cool about it, so it's quite all right.
I lucked out with my first FKK girl: the famous Lina, from Czech Republic. She's a beauty, it was like making love to a sex kitten. She offered anal at 100 Euros, but I prefer to do the usual 50-Euro session first. Took dinner, before going for my 2nd session, with a Bulgaria girl. She looked bored when I spoke to her, which should have been a warning sign, which I overlooked. She started to upsell once in the room, saying that to kiss body, she needs another 50 Euros. Bad attitude. Got frustrated and didn't finish with her. My 3rd (and last) girl is Pamela from Panama. She's a dark beauty, enhanced tits, but has buns of steel, and good energy. It was great doing doggie on her.
Don't forget to visit the TV room from time to time. Porn videos are played continually, and guys lounge around watching them. Now and then, girls would come in to check out if anyone needs to be sucked on the spot. I saw a girl go over to a guy in front, and started to have full-blown sex with him. Girl on top, guy on top, with her finishing him with a marathon blow job that lasted, what, 20 min! The most amazing thing is that the other men looked nonchalant, as if such acts are commonplace. Of course they steal glances to the live sex scene now and then, but the coolness of everyone, plus the pure voyeuristic excitement, is mind-blowing.
All in all, I was there for 7 hours, from 5pm to midnight. Even if I did not have a single session wtih any girl, it was worth it for the unique, enjoyable experience. In terms of damage: 75 (entrance fee) + 150 (3 sessions) Euros = 225 Euros. That's great value.
My advice is no need to rush to "do" girls, wait to see all of them first over an hour or so, then decide who has the best looks and attitude. Note that the session typically would not last 30 min, once you've come, that's the end, so it could be only 15 min. But nevertheless still worth the while. I spoke to a girl, who told me that they pay the same rate as men to come into the place. I'll be looking forward to a return visit. Feel free to ask me questions.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I had a session with Jeannie from Czech Republic during my last visit at Palace. She reminded me of old Natalie who used to work at Palace (does anyone know where she is now?). She has long blonde hair, blue eyes, tanned skin, and enhanced b/c breasts. She is not a spinner as I would have typically liked, but is no mean heavy in anyone's standard. She was casual, flirtacious, smiley, and emanated good vibe. So I decided to spend time with her.
Jeannie told me that she is from a small town in central Czech Republic, but currently lives on Mallorca Island. She comes to Germany and works at some FKK for average 2 weeks, then go back to Mallorca. She does this routine in every 3 - 4 months -- that's what she told me if it's true or not.
As soon as we entered the room, she started upselling, asking me if I wanted extras like CIM, Greek, or KISS! I gently reminded her that Kiss should be included as a standard service. She pretended that she did not hear it, so I preceeded the rest of the session without kissing her.
Although we started on the wrong note, the rest of the session was enjoyable. She gave me a nice bbbj, and a passionate FS. I may not mind repeating her on a slow night. I would rate her 8/7/8 (face/body/service).
On the separate note, I met a couple of punters who just came back from Oase, and they both told me that the line up at Oase is much better than at Palace -- hands down. I have noticed the steady decline of good looking girls and good services at Palace last few years. Yes, you could still find nice looking girls there. Yes, you could have nice sessions there. But it seems it's becoming more of the exceptions to the rule than what we can normally expect. Hence I cannot emphasize enough of the importance of this board.
The Palace is opened from 11am to 4am.It's open already at 10.00. And you might want to correct the link to the site. It doesn't work for me.
Thanks for the report
It's open already at 10.00. And you might want to correct the link to the site. It doesn't work for me.
Thanks for the reportYou're right Toscana. I actually went back to the entrance of The Palace on a separate day, at 10am, and was surprised to find it open. I proceeded to the reception and confirmed that. No sooner had I commented to the lady manning the reception that at this early morning hour there would probably not be any nice girl, than a pretty and tall blonde appeared at the meal place with a plate in hand, presumably taking her breakfast:.). Well, I guess anytime is good time. It'd be cool to spend a whole day in there, chilling out and lounging around, and just watching some of the beauties without any pressure to partake of the pleasures of the flesh.
I debated whether to include that 10am opening time in my original post, and since it was just an anecdotal observation, decided to omit it.
There's a typo in the web site for the Palace that I posted. The actual site is at www.the-palace. De.
I will attempt to get to Oase when I get the chance. I promise to post a "newbie" report.
Does anyone know if a girl named Kitty is still working at Palace?
I had a session with Jeannie from Czech Republic during my last visit at Palace.
As soon as we entered the room, she started upselling, asking me if I wanted extras like CIM, Greek, or KISS! I gently reminded her that Kiss should be included as a standard service. She pretended that she did not hear it, so I preceeded the rest of the session without kissing her.
Although we started on the wrong note, the rest of the session was enjoyable. She gave me a nice bbbj, and a passionate FS. I may not mind repeating her on a slow night. I would rate her 8/7/8 (face/body/service).
On the separate note, I met a couple of punters who just came back from Oase, and they both told me that the line up at Oase is much better than at Palace -- hands down. I have noticed the steady decline of good looking girls and good services at Palace last few years. Yes, you could still find a nice looking girls there. Yes, you could have nice sessions there. But it seems it's becoming more of the exceptions to the rule than what we normally expect. Hence I cannot emphasize enough of the importance of this board.
I guess I come from the "old school" thinking that DFK should be part of the standard FKK session. But I am aware that, increasingly it would seem, some girls tend to avoid this service. Since in most cases I seek this as part of the GFE package, I test the girl BEFORE committing to a session by engaging in DFK ex zimmer. If she doesn't kiss outside the room, then she aint going to kiss inside the room (most likely) and I tell her I want this service. If she tells me she will kiss me later, I normally tell her to show me some of her DFK skills before I committ. If she continues to be reluctant or if she tells me outright she does not DFK, then usually I move on to another target. In most good clubs there are so many girls that I want to try and I have to narrow my choices, so why should I waste my time on a girl that might probably provide a non-optimum session?
On your other point: It has been established now that Czech Linda, formerly of Palace has now made Oase her main nest, working under the new name of Adrianne. However, can you or anybody else name other ex-Palace girls who now work at Oase or elsewhere, having abandoned Palace? You mention the old Atlantis line-up at Oase. Who exactly are you referring to when you speak of ex-Atlantis girls? There used to be several at Palace (e.g. Angelika), but can you refer us to other specific girls?
Thanks,
Ortos
The following girls were observed in Oase last week:
- Brazilian Raffaela
- Greek Linda
- Czech Hanna
who I think all are x-Atlantis girls. Then again; I never visited Atlantis so others need to confirm. They were all looking great. Raffaela will be leaving Oase in a few weeks coming back in March I think.
I did not recognize any Palace girls in Oase except for Adrianne (Linda) though. No need really, their line-up is great these days.
However, can you or anybody else name other ex-Palace girls who now work at Oase or elsewhere, having abandoned Palace?
Ortos
It was only temporary, but Andra tried out Oase for a day. I think that she is back to bilking dudes at Palace now.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hessen Bub
12-02-07, 16:51
@Jackyo
It is interesting that this topic is a discussion on an English speaking forum and never raised on the German forums. English speakers worry about the darkside because it is more prevelant in their own countries and 'the sordid world of girls forced into pay sex' is the politically correct attitude of the English/American press.
I think these topics have been discussed in German boards as well, but this happens either in VIP-Forums (as in LSH) or the discussions have been going on years ago. It is not a new phenomenom, it just came up her lately.
And yes, I am German and I do think/worry a lot about Zwangsprostitution and there's been quite a lot of incidents that make it hard to just go and have a good time in the clubs. That's the reality. One thing I keep saying to myself is: It's better for the girls to make their money with a nice guy like me ;-) than to be forced to make it with some asshole.
HB
Hessen Bub
12-02-07, 16:58
Why should forum owners allow that their business partners be insulted or give the police a hint to take action?
Did you notice, that many of the german fora (forums) are free for members? Did you notice too the (massive) advertising for girls and locations in these fora? You think this advertising is for free? Running a forum costs money, some started their forum with enthusiasm but pretty soon found out, that this can be developed into a pretty good business, maybe some even live on it.
If it didn't start like this, it will sooner or later end up like that. Money makes the world go round!
Forum owners need to establish a good base with their business partners, otherwise nobody would pay for adverts, no money flows! Those who run one forum or even many fora address the market of mongers and can control information, the larger their imperium of fora, the better!
Additionally, the forum admins in many cases don't have to pay for the gate in those clubs, that advertise on their forum! You will find those admins there very very often!
Hey hey, calm down! What forum are you talking about? I do have to clarify some things for the LSH, www.lustscout.to/wbboard , one of the leading German PaySex forums:
It is free.
It is independent.
It reports about Laufhäuser, Clubs, appartements, street prostitution, escorts, other countries.
Advertising partners: There's changing partners to be able to stay independent.
No free entrance at any club for admins. Admins are not even known to the club management, they do not want to be revealed as an admin or forum member in the club.
Revenue through advertising does cover the cost, but no more, there's no profit.
There's no advertising for girls or clubs or other locations in the reports.
If we get the impression that a user does push a location/girl, he'll be banned and the report deleted.
So please differentiate when talking about German forums.
HB
Nick The G
12-03-07, 21:12
@ Hessen Bub:
Strange, but I knew you would react. :-)
I agree that for different fora the situation might be different to some extent.
There's changing partners to be able to stay independent.For the sake of the poor souls, that seems to be a highly relevant motive in this whole scenery, not only with regards to advertising partners! :-)
Independence, what a word, so often misused! Another point of view is: because we are so dependent on the whole "stuff", we need to change partners all the time.
No free entrance at any club for admins. Admins are not even known to the club management, they do not want to be revealed as an admin or forum member in the club.Might be the case for LSH. Maybe in the LSH there is one, or even more, hierarchical level above the admins. Somebody has to be responsible (in legal terms) and do the business negotiations and contracts with advertisers, e.g. prostitutes, club or brothel management! I was thinking of these persons (mostly guys I presume!) when talking about free entrance or equivalent things.
Revenue through advertising does cover the cost, but no more, there's no profit.As long as you are not one of those who run or own the forum, how can you know this? Are you involved in money transactions regarding the advertising on the LSH forum?
There's no advertising for girls or clubs or other locations in the reports. If we get the impression that a user does push a location/girl, he'll be banned and the report deleted. True, I agree from my own experience with that forum and other fora!
.... there's been quite a lot of incidents that make it hard to just go and have a good time in the clubs. That's the reality. One thing I keep saying to myself is: It's better for the girls to make their money with a nice guy like me ;-) than to be forced to make it with some asshole. You're a good boy, I know! And you lucky one, you have a - never ending - mission! Every good boy deserves favour! :-)
But: even if it appears to be better for a girl to make her money with a nice guy like you, there might be an "asshole" waiting behind her who forces the girl to pass on "some" money to him.
I agree, worst case scenario might be if a woman is forced to make it with "assholes" on both sides!
Does anyone know if a girl named Kitty is still working at Palace?Is she the same Kitty who usted to work in Atlantis? Long blonde hair, from Estonia, and just amazingly beautiful?
Out of all my mongering experiences, hers is the best service I have ever received. There's no words to do it justice, the experience with her was just the best in my life.
She was an amazing GFE experience with slow wet kisses and slow and sloppy bbbj.
Does anybody else know who I am talking about? And if yes, where she's at?
Kurtmasur,
I know whom you are referring to. Kitty @ good old Atlantis did provide great GFE. Although I did not meet the Kitty recently reported at Palace, during my last few visits, I did not spot the good ol' Kitty. And I was there during a couple of busy nights also. So, I am not positive that the Kitty from Atlantis is working at Palace now.
I have seen a few old ex-Atlantis girls at Palace last few years. Jennifer (who is now gone to some other club) was one of them. The Croatian girl who looked like Selma Hayak (just could not recall her name) is another one -- and she is gone also.
I, too, had a favorite girl I used to see all the time at Atlantis. And I was looking for her for a looooong time ever since Atlantis was closed. I finally gave up the hope of seeing her again recently. I also realized that those girls who were young and fresh back then are now reaching their late 20s - early 30s. Their beauty may fade, as they get older and gain extra pounds. So it might be a good idea to keep the beautiful memory of her in me and remembering how wonderful our time together was...
Sorry for being sentimental.
Is she the same Kitty who usted to work in Atlantis? Long blonde hair, from Estonia, and just amazingly beautiful?
Actually this is a dark haired Hungarian girl that used to work at PHG and also provides incredible service.
Does she wear dark glasses? If so, I saw her at Golden Time recently.
Does she wear dark glasses? If so, I saw her at Golden Time recently.
Don't think so but thanks. Either way I'm at GT and Palace next week and hopefully catch her but if not something tells me I will find my way to some beauties.
Dave Jamsis
12-05-07, 12:23
I always reported in the past the very good conditions early in the day, in the afternoon and early evening. Ladies more willing to give better service, chat, have drink, to make all the more worthwhile experience.
I recall peak time begins around 2000 hrs.
However what is Palace like between 0100 and 0300
is it somewhat empty where ladies are more laid back and willing to please
By the way, I will be at palace this Friday if anyone wants to have a chat.
I am male, 33 yrs old from USA.
After a great Saturday in Oase I wanted to check out Palace for a change.
First I saw Jenna (ex Oase) from Russia, blonde, slim body. She has now made some porn movies and photo shoots also. Nice session.
Later in the evening I had the most horrible experience ever. I saw a great looking girl, a tall brunette with a killer body. I think she said her name was Diana from Budapest. She was constantly busy so I thought that was a good sign. Big mistake.
In the room she did BBBJ for about 1 minute and then she told me that if I want to have sex it’s 100 euro extra!! I informed her that I have visited this club several times before and know exactly what the prices are, but she kept saying that sex is 100 euro extra and she didn’t want to do any more blowing either if I didn’t pay for CIM, but instead she offered me a hand job. I just laughed at her and put my cock back in the towel and went to the safe box and handed her 50 euro for nothing. I know I should not accept this and instead complain at the desk but what good would come from that? Since she already had my cock in her mouth I knew I was going to have to pay.
Maybe they would tell her that she has to fuck me but I didn’t really care because I didn’t want to have anything more to do with that girl.
In this club there is no such thing as standard services or standard prices.
Everything has to be agreed before going to the room just as in a Laufhaus.
I will not be back.
Beach Fun Guy
12-05-07, 23:05
Made my first visit to the Palace. Great place, I really appreciate all the reports that prepared me. Most helpful. Felt like I knew the place and what to expect and how to 'play the game"
About 20+ girls there this afternoon and more of course in the evening. There is a show on at the convention center so I expected it to be very busy, but really was not bad. I left about 10:00 so maybe more coming later.
The girls do like to push themselves and upsell if possible. Only had one "iffy" experience with a good looking black girl from some where in the caribbean. We only did 30 min (wore my watch) and she claimed 45. No way, but didn't want to argue there by the door. It was a good time, but didn't like the dishonesty. Gotta really have a watch and keep track. I learned on the next ones They want to "message" afterwards to add time and go over. Maybe I just took to long to use the full time. LOL
Going back tomorrow for a second round. Guess I will be experienced then!
However what is Palace like between 0100 and 0300
is it somewhat empty where ladies are more laid back and willing to please
Eggs-ackley, unless it is a messe or party night, it does slow down somewhat at Palace, less so on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights I'd say. I don';t know about the willing to please part, that could be tricky depending on who you choose.
beffen
Going back tomorrow for a second round. Guess I will be experienced then!
Or maybe NOT! Face it, at the Palace there are many girls who want to rip you off. And management seems to never side with the males. Being more experienced does not help!
I am simply not going to the Palace any more.
Hessen Bub
12-06-07, 11:45
@ Hessen Bub:
Strange, but I knew you would react. :-)
Strange? Why's that?
Might be the case for LSH. Maybe in the LSH there is one, or even more, hierarchical level above the admins. Somebody has to be responsible (in legal terms) and do the business negotiations and contracts with advertisers, e.g. prostitutes, club or brothel management! I was thinking of these persons (mostly guys I presume!) when talking about free entrance or equivalent things.
There's no level above the admins. There's nobody taking advantage of free entrance into clubs. There's other ways to to business in an anonymous way. Ask the club management if they do know the LSH-admins or mods - they won't.
As long as you are not one of those who run or own the forum, how can you know this? Are you involved in money transactions regarding the advertising on the LSH forum?
I do know about the LSH "P&L". So you either believe me or not.
HB
The girls do like to push themselves and upsell if possible. Only had one "iffy" experience with a good looking black girl from some where in the caribbean. We only did 30 min (wore my watch) and she claimed 45. No way, but didn't want to argue there by the door. It was a good time, but didn't like the dishonesty. Gotta really have a watch and keep track. I learned on the next ones They want to "message" afterwards to add time and go over. Maybe I just took to long to use the full time.
If they don't know you they assume you are a guy in town on business or something who is able to be taken advantage of for a few extra bucks. I don't wear a watch normally but I carry in a cheap watch I got at Walmart and always show them the time. Then they know they cannot screw with you. It's as simple as that.
Hessen Bub, you are in there a lot. Is there anything you do to keep track of time or make sure girls don't pull that with you or do they just know not to try it with the regulars?
Hessen Bub
12-06-07, 16:57
Hessen Bub, you are in there a lot. Is there anything you do to keep track of time or make sure girls don't pull that with you or do they just know not to try it with the regulars?
Wear a watch, tell them what the time is when you enter the room. So you are on the same page. They do not pull this kind of things with the regulars. If they know you are one. Otherwise they try, but I do only pay what I get.
HB
Otherwise they try, but I do only pay what I get.So if the session only lasts for maximum 15 minutes (like it does for us who only visit occasionally) you only pay 25 Euro?
So if the session only lasts for maximum 15 minutes (like it does for us who only visit occasionally) you only pay 25 Euro?
No, you owe full 50 euro, 5 min or 30 min same price.
No, you owe full 50 euro, 5 min or 30 min same price.
SX is right. You spend 50E for the first 30 minutes regardless if you last 5 or 29. So of course you are hoping to time it close to 30 minutes if you can, not finish in 18 because you're hurrying. I don't know exactly what Hessen Bub means by paying for what he gets. HB is there so much that it would not surprise me if he gets great treatment from girls he knows well and repeats with. But that is not the norm and more than likely if you go over the first 30 minutes by 10 minutes she's going to want the extra 50 in full(50+50). So if you go over, take your time and enjoy it and get the most out of your extra 30 minutes because you are going to pay for it.
If I wanted to try and cut a deal for a little more than 30 minutes at less than 50E I would have no problem asking. But my thinking on that is that it has to be with a girl that understands perfectly what I am asking for and agrees to it with no hesitation. I would look her dead in the eye before the session and make sure she agrees again inside the room too so that she's not just saying what I want to hear to get into the room. They are independent and it is their time to negotiate. It would stand to reason I want to try this with a girl I have sessioned with already and treated me well the first time.
I know some guys just go as long as the session feels right and just pay what it costs but I try to spend a little less if I can. I actually tried to find an interval watch that I could set to give me a simple signal at about 30 minutes or 60 or so I know when it's time to go. I don't wear my watch and really don't want to take the time to look at it in the sessions. It would just be nice to get a signal from it that 30 minutes or an hour is almost up so I can just relax and enjoy. Any ideas?
SX is right. You spend 50E for the first 30 minutes regardless if you last 5 or 29. So of course you are hoping to time it close to 30 minutes if you can, not finish in 18 because you're hurrying. I don't know exactly what Hessen Bub means by paying for what he gets.I know this rule… I was only curious what Hessen Bub meant with paying for what he gets. Perhaps Palace has other rules only for their regulars and the girls can do what they want with us who only comes by once in a while.
Personally I can’t accept what happened to me last Sunday being asked for 100 Euro extra for intercourse so I will stick to other clubs in the future because this behavior does not exist in any other FKK I’ve visited (so far).
It would just be nice to get a signal from it that 30 minutes or an hour is almost up so I can just relax and enjoy. Any ideas?Well, get your self an egg-timer and wind it up. :)
Personally I can’t accept what happened to me last Sunday being asked for 100 Euro extra for intercourse so I will stick to other clubs in the future because this behavior does not exist in any other FKK I’ve visited (so far).
To be honest the crap never ends. It happens in all clubs. I have had them try similar things at PHG, GT and World. I consider it an occupational hazard and if it happens once or twice a trip over a few Euro I figure I'm about on par. I'm not trying to let them off easy but there's always an angle the girls will find if they think they can and I find it almost impossible to be totally prepared.
Well, get your self an egg-timer and wind it up. :)
You don't think I thought of that? I thought of how funny it would be to do that. Not that I'm in the clubs that often but if I were they would probably call me a "clock watcher"? ;)
You don't think I thought of that? I thought of how funny it would be to do that. Not that I'm in the clubs that often but if I were they would probably call me a "clock watcher"? ;)I think that if you would bring an egg timer you would make a very strong impression on the Palace girls and the next time you visit after that they will recognize you (and your timer) and maybe give you regular customer service. :)
I have an old "sand" egg-timer that I might take along next time I'm in Germany. I'd have to turn it over every three minutes, though, so maybe I'd look a little old-fashioned.
Best to negotiate mutually and clearly up front that you are willing to pay for a 50 euro, 30-minute session. If she seems not to clearly understand this, best to walk away and find another.
As for getting ripped off (sounds like you did), about all you can do is take your case to the management. If they're indifferent or otherwise unhelpful, it's probably best to just cross the club off of your list. At least for a while, anyway. You'd probably get frustrated again anyway if you showed up a day or so later and the girl was still there. Bad vibes.
And don't feel singled out. Probably every 'seasoned' monger here has been ripped off at least once to some degree or other, either in time, service, or 'attitude' (which can change during the session).
I have an old "sand" egg-timer that I might take along next time I'm in Germany. I'd have to turn it over every three minutes, though, so maybe I'd look a little old-fashioned.
Best to negotiate mutually and clearly up front that you are willing to pay for a 50 euro, 30-minute session. If she seems not to clearly understand this, best to walk away and find another.
As for getting ripped off (sounds like you did), about all you can do is take your case to the management. If they're indifferent or otherwise unhelpful, it's probably best to just cross the club off of your list. At least for a while, anyway. You'd probably get frustrated again anyway if you showed up a day or so later and the girl was still there. Bad vibes.
And don't feel singled out. Probably every 'seasoned' monger here has been ripped off at least once to some degree or other, either in time, service, or 'attitude' (which can change during the session).
... even those who have been at it for a while.
There are handful of clubs I feel I can let my guard down at. The rest make me uneasy.
This uneasiness alone detracts so much from my overall enjoyment of a visit that I avoid them or only drop in if my options are limited.
But to each his own.
Some folks might actually get a kick out of the uneven service and the negotiating which they have to do.
Its the same for guys who think the Laufhaeuser are the way go to despite the fact that FKK clubs offer better services and are safer.
The saunas usually do have those sand hourglasses which normally time fifteen minutes. I've never done it in a sauna though and I've not met many women who want to do it in a sauna.
Hessen Bub
12-07-07, 18:11
You spend 50E for the first 30 minutes regardless if you last 5 or 29. So of course you are hoping to time it close to 30 minutes if you can, not finish in 18 because you're hurrying. I don't know exactly what Hessen Bub means by paying for what he gets. HB is there so much that it would not surprise me if he gets great treatment from girls he knows well and repeats with.
Everything below 30 minutes is 50 EUR. For me, for everybody. I just meant I will not pay extra for kissing or DATY or 100 EUR for 31 minutes. That's all.
HB
With regard to Palace and the "rip off" factor I would just say that I have always had pretty good experiences there. Well, one "Dominican" gave me crap service. Another session was not great but I sincerely felt the girl did not know what she was doing and no coaching on earth could save the session. I have even had an awkward session where the girl and I just didn't seem to click. I don't consider those experiences any different than I might find at any other club. I've been in Brazil and had awkward sessions and a few girls that really just did not know how to "made love" well. It happens. When I show up in Frankfurt I'm usually tired and also somewhat satisfied from having already been to the NWR clubs. I have been to Palace enough that if all I do is repeat with the girls I have already been with and enjoyed(a lot) then I'm happy. If I get a real good vibe and throw in a new girl or two, all the better. I just don't mind repeating if I think I will enjoy the girl again. That's why I'm happy with Palace.
Its the same for guys who think the Laufhaeuser are the way go to despite the fact that FKK clubs offer better services and are safer.
Is Laufhaeuser a brothel like buildings in Frankfurt's RLD and if so why do you have to be careful of?
Is Laufhaeuser a brothel like buildings in Frankfurt's RLD and if so why do you have to be careful of?
... and yes, it is dangerous.
The so-called Milieu runs the place. Normally they won't bother you.
There are other criminal elements though and a close friend of mine had a run in with a dude with a 9 mm.
He swears he will never go near the place.
... I've never done it in a sauna though and I've not met many women who want to do it in a sauna.I've done it in a Russian banya at the bottom of the garden, next to the shithouse and the cucumber patch. LOL. A hot experience indeed, with the added spice of not knowing whether the girl's family was going to wander down to join us. Wouldn't last thirty minutes though. Not good for you, I suspect. Stick to a watch in an FKK.
There are handful of clubs I feel I can let my guard down at.
I guess you are referring to Bernd's and "smaller NRW clubs with German girls carefully handpicked by the management". Can you be more specific about the best sharkfree NRW clubs?
I guess you are referring to Bernd's and "smaller NRW clubs with German girls carefully handpicked by the management". Can you be more specific about the best sharkfree NRW clubs?
Yes, this is what I am referring to.
Bernds is at the top of this list. First visited in 99, been returning ever since.
I've never been ripped off at Samya either.
Then there is Blue Note which is small but service oriented.
I consider the recent ownership change at Babylon a positive: they really seem to want to make sure the customer gets what he wants, just like the good old days. (Its also a nostalgia thing, what can I say).
I used to like Wildenrath. Note "used to". I wish it would bounce back. It was just the right size, used to have just the right selection.
Then there are Cocoon and Heavensgate: all nude clubs with decent pricing.
The clubs I really let my guard down at are PTs though. Pay once, never have to think about opening your wallet again.
I've only been visiting PTs since 2005 and I am becoming more and more a PT addict, if you've been following my posts.
There are a lot of mediocre to bad PTs though. Even the best ones have "issues".
The clubs I really let my guard down at are PTs though. Pay once, never have to think about opening your wallet again.
I've only been visiting PTs since 2005 and I am becoming more and more a PT addict, if you've been following my posts.
There are a lot of mediocre to bad PTs though. Even the best ones have "issues".
I wish I had the balls(haha) to try one. Is there one that's really good right now?
I wish I had the balls(haha) to try one. Is there one that's really good right now?
I crossed the line on public sex years ago but I have to agree that its not for just anyone.
Folks fear that everyone else around them is talking about them while they are at it. Nothing could be further from the truth. The average person (this includes me) has sex in an average way. Nothing to write home about. Having someone watch is all the same to me. I have my fun anyway.
The buzz in the PT world these days surrounds PT Traumland, sister club to PT Dorsten.
The reports about it though range from really great to just so-so.
I need to check it out, have it on my list to visit this winter.
Hessen Bub
12-08-07, 09:52
... and yes, it is dangerous
... and a close friend of mine had a run in with a dude with a 9 mm.
He swears he will never go near the place.
I've never experienced any trouble in the "Bahnhofsviertel". It is safer than some other parts of Frankfurt. Stick to the houses, don't bother anybody and you'll be fine.
HB
Dave Jamsis
12-09-07, 16:55
Hello Friends,
Had my remarkable 10-hour visit at Palace on Friday 07 December. To be honest I am now back in USA where I live and I just can’t stop thinking about it. Therefore I will be dividing up my visit report in two parts due to the explicit detail I wish to share. Part one will focus on comments about any changes and general observations compared from the last time (there are many! ) I made a visit to Palace, which was in April of this year.
Second report will be description of my sessions with three remarkable women, where my experience with two of them could be described nothing short as a life changing experience where the memories made will last me the rest of my life.
Before I go on – if you are not local to Frankfurt area I again want to highly recommend Flemming’s hotel. Room rate was 110 Euro, maybe a bit high, but for the quality of hotel and service, it is very comparable to other similar high quality hotels in Frankfurt during the weekend.
Stay tuned, you don’t want to miss this!
Don't think so but thanks. Either way I'm at GT and Palace next week and hopefully catch her but if not something tells me I will find my way to some beauties.I only saw Kitty at Palace while I was visiting Frankfurt in May. I returned to Frankfurt in late Aug and was at Palace 4 times but didn't see her there, a real disappointment. On my last night there, Isabella from Hungary told me that Kitty doesn't work there anymore. I forgot to ask Isabella if she knows where she might be working these days.
IMHO, Kitty is not a classic beauty and does not have the best body (skinnier than what I would usually go for, A cup), but she makes up with friendliness and great service.
Dave Jamsis
12-09-07, 22:17
I arrived at the Palace late afternoon on Friday, Dec. 2 for my much anticipated visit. After a full week traveling around all of Europe at a much too fast pace I can’t tell you how much I was looking forward to another slice of heaven on the northwest side of Frankfurt.
Upon entering at 4:30PM I noticed about 20-25 ladies and about the same number of men. I did my standard walk around, took a sauna/steam room/shower/cleanup and was sitting at the main bar for coffee by 5:30PM. At that time I started having much interaction with several ladies. Mostly chit-chat, I explained that yes I have been here before and plan on staying until closing time, and really didn’t want to rush except to enjoy the wonderful ambience. Although a few girls that approached me were somewhat pushy, I did enjoy several hot kisses and some small under-the-towel play while I finished my drink. I was happy that the girls were not too much pushy as reading previous reports this month I wasn't quite sure what to expect.
I was surprised when Laura from Romania (tall blonde, medium sized breasts, great ass, amazing eyes) walked up behind me, grabbed me, kissed me deeply and asked me how life was in Indiana. I couldn’t believe she remembered me back from several months ago much less my name and where I was from (see my April 2007 visit report for details on that one). I asked how she was doing – I didn’t realize that she, along with many of her Romanian friends, actually only spend about one week per month at Palace. She explained she flies in usually on a Friday morning and stays until the following next Sunday evening. She rents a room on the second floor in the white building across the street. In fact, she explained several of the girls who work also live there on a temporary basis. Work a full week, make extraordinary money, return home and live off of it. At any rate, we continued to kiss and flirt, and indicated that I would like to see her later. She was very kind and said she will look for me later, no rush no problem.
Dinner served at 6PM, it was fish and chips, salad, chicken, veggies, bread. It is amazing how the gals flock the buffet like a cattle call. However I did learn that those that only live in Frankfurt temporary (i.e. across the street in the white two-story building) to work, this is the only meals they get. Most do not have cars nor even drivers license. The live at the Palace and sleep across the street, day in and day out. And all the sex drives up their appetite naturally.
It was close to 7:00PM now off to the kino I go. This is the best place to hook up, because the most outgoing ladies will go out of way to make contact, and you are probably guaranteed plenty of ‘couch action’ to sample the goods before you decide on one. For example, if you insist on DFK, this is the best way to know girls will not disappoint. It is best time in the kino of course is when there are very little guys in there, because the ladies flock there every 30 seconds or so it seems. There was maybe 2-3 other guys in the room, I picked a spot on the first tier furthest away from the door. Within maybe two minutes about 6-7 girls come lay next to me wanting to get it on. I politely declined as none really suited my taste, but I was getting very horny and hard as a rock. A short time later in walks a tall, very tan beauty goddess. Hair Very black and full which is a huge turn on for me. Full lips just made for a blowjob. Her name was Niriana from Brazil and cuddles up next to me. More on her in the next report which will focus on my sessions with her.
After my session with Niriana, I retreated to sauna/steam room/shower before heading back to my locker to get a wonderful Cuban cigar. The one change I noticed was that if you smoke you have to do so in two designated smoking rooms, both at opposite ends of the facility. I retreated to the large smoking room just off the main area. The room was actually pretty crowded (as the rest of the club was starting to get busier) but I found a corner couch I could spread out, relax, and smoke my stogie. As it turns out, the smoking rooms are excellent place to engage in chit-chat with the ladies. Most of them retreat here for a smoke immediately after a session. Being somewhat exhausted they really don’t use the time in there for anything else than to smoke, then off on their rounds again. But they will engage in discussion which is something I really enjoy. I talked with 6-7 different ladies about life in general, very laid back attitude and not pushy at all, although several asked if they would like to hook up after my cigar. Of course I said “perhaps” and will look for them later. My cigar would last over 45 minutes, and because I paid a lot for it I explained to the ladies I really wanted to finish. They understood.
After about 15 minutes and about a quarter through my cigar, in walks a blonde lady with absolutely large and stunning breast. Beautiful smile, we make eye contact so I say hello and she joins me for a smoke pulling up a stool next to me. As it turns out her name was Angelina or Angelika…to be honest after my session with her was like an out-of-body-experience thus I forget her exact name. She is 27 years old, from Greece. Speaks excellent English. Details of the encounter on next report.
After my mind-blowing session with the Greek goddess I decided to leave for a while – as it was well past 10PM and it was much more crowded. I think if you are going to stay for several hours you need to break away for a reality check. I checked out, received my return pass at the front desk, and retreated back to my room at Flemings. On the way in I stopped at the bar and picked up three 32-oz German beers. The cute female bartender give me a sly smile as she knew exactly where I was and what I was up to. I went up in my room to have a little party with myself, beer, and to listen to ipod. I actually had a conference call with work back in the states. Only if the other people on the phone knew what I was up to!
At around 11:30PM I returned to The Palace and noticed it was VERY crowded. Probably 2:1 male to female ratio. I wanted to hang out and just people watch, which I did for the next hour at the coffee bar. I also played a few cheesy video games, back and forth to the sauna and steam room, etc. I never did see Laura from Romania nor Angelina from Greece, I imagine by the quality of their service they were swamped the remainder of evening/morning. I had a nice conversation with Olympia again, my god she is a knockout. However due to poor reviews I just was not interested.
Back to the smoking room for another cigar, this time went to the smaller room on the far north end of the room behind the Jacuzzi. I sat on the love seat and had several girls join me, light couch play, cuddling, etc. Was not yet interested in session again and my body was still shaking from my last one. One girl, tall, German, long brown hair and huge breast, was in there for quite some time constantly masturbating trying to egg me on.
I believe it was sometime after 2AM back in the kino when I met up with I believe was Isabella, from Romania. At least I think that was her name – she told me but what happened over the next hour with her made me forget my own first name. She was tall, long brown hair, unbelievable eyes and full lips. Without question, without hesitation, the most unbelievable and attractive women I have ever met not only at the Palace but anywhere. More on the session in following report.
After my session with Isabella, I retreated to the steam room. To my amazement, there were three girls in there completely naked. It appears that after 3AM, the gals pretty much call it a night and retreated to steam room/sauna/Jacuzzi while some also get massages by the on-site masseuse. It was very nice way to end the evening. Boy, the girls were completely exhausted however in the mood to chat a bit. We talked about President Bush, the War, life in USA in general, etc. In addition I took a quick sauna and there were maybe 10-12 girls in there, lying on towels, bodies probably aching and sore from all they were through. I realized there were hardly any guys there at all. Finally, at about 10 minutes to 4AM, I went back to my room for a ‘power nap’ before catching a cab for my 10AM flight back to USA.
Peak times at Palace on a Friday is between 8:30PM and midnight. If you want better female-to-male ratios, arrive anytime before 8PM and anytime after 1AM.
The good stuff will be in the next report.
I've never experienced any trouble in the "Bahnhofsviertel". It is safer than some other parts of Frankfurt. Stick to the houses, don't bother anybody and you'll be fine.
HB
.. I've never had problems there either.
Its what happened to my friend which make me extremely leery of the area.
Plus this film from the early 1980s "Christiane F" which was a story about the drug scene near the Hbf.
believe me, there is a drug scene near the hbf.
last time i was in germany i had booked a dinky little hotel online (because it was cheap) for the first day in frankfurt before getting a rental car on the second day and heading out on the road, because my plane arrived at 7:30 a.m. after an overnight flight out of detroit, and i know from experience that after that and the wait in the customs lines i am dead on my feet and only want to sleep the day away.
this place is called the hotel kaiserhof (kaiserstrasse 62) and is just a couple of blocks east of the hbf. when i finally got up again around 7:30 or 8:00 p.m. (i think, it was dark anyway) and headed off back to the hbf to take the first leg of the u-bahn up to palace, i walked down kaiserstrasse and right into the middle of probably 40 druggies milling around outside of the steps down to the hbf underground mall, where the steps empty out onto kaiserstrasse. i'd seen druggies around the hbf in past trips, too, but never that many. it looked like a regular convention, and there was no mistaking what they were. a couple of them were shooting up right there on the street, over next to a building.
i'm sure they rep001ter when the police make the rounds, but there weren't any around at the time.
i took a taxi back from palace because i stayed out late that night, but i would have taken a taxi back regardless, that time, even if the trains were still running.
Of course there is a drug scene. Frankfurt is a major city. It is however quite safe walking the RLD. Druggies around the area are pretty harmless. There is a drug scene in every major city in Europe. I have walked the RLD in Frankfurt all times of day and night and in various condition (both sober and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk) and I have never been bothered by anyone
Btw: Cristiana F story is about Berlin, not Frankfurt
Btw: Cristiana F story is about Berlin, not Frankfurt
Yes, Christiane F was filmed at Berlin Bahnhof Zoo...!
There is a drug scene near the Frankfurt Hbf though also.
I don't know what it is but I don't feel safe in Frankfurt, period. It is the city I feel least safe in in Germany.
I've walked various parts of Berlin, Muenchen, etc.. at night and never had any problems.
That whole Banhhofsviertel reminds me of Times Square in New York during the pre-Giuliani days.
[QUOTE=Henio]Of course there is a drug scene. Frankfurt is a major city. It is however quite safe walking the RLD. Druggies around the area are pretty harmless. There is a drug scene in every major city in Europe. I have walked the RLD in Frankfurt all times of day and night and in various condition (both sober and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk) and I have never been bothered by anyone.
Nobody bothered me either, despite the large number milling around, but I was carrying a fair amount of cash at the time and it made me plenty nervous walking through the crowd. The drug scene in any city pretty much runs on cash, and if you're addicted - how you acquire that cash can sometimes be predatory.
Dave Jamsis
12-10-07, 23:05
Let’s get on with it. Will probably bore you with these details but it was just an amazing experience I couldn’t stop typing.
Niriana, 25 yrs old, Brazil
I am laying down in the kino, Niriana walks over, and very politely asks if she can join me for a nice chat. She was very stunning, as indicated earlier how much I like thick black hair. Great body, full breasts, tan, very nice smile and looked genuinely friendly. And also spoke excellent English. She is originally from Brazil but lives in Spain. The one thing that was a turn on for me is that that she just arrived on her shift, her makeup fresh and smelled wonderful. After maybe five minute of general chit-chat, she leans over and plats a kiss deep inside my mouth. She tasted very good, noticed she was a nonsmoker which was a turn on even more. I then decided that Niriana would be my first session of the night. We DFK for at least ten minutes, maybe longer. I was so excited she was not in a rush. However at some point I was rock hard with her hand under the towel and could not resist. Off to the nearby room down the hall from the kino we go.
We get in the room, she explains that 50 euro for standard session but 69 is extra. Fine with me…for the first session I would not last that long always. We kissed deeply for another ten minutes perhaps, then SHE PUT ON A CONDOM and stared to blow me. I was a little shocked, as I thought bbbj was standard. Do other girls at Palace use CBJ? But damn it still felt good. However when it came time to fuck her, she put a SECOND CONDOM over the first one. And let me tell you, I went in side her for about thirty seconds and went limp as a cold string of pasta. I pulled out, asked her to just give me a hand job to finish. She lubed up, and got me off but it took about ten more minutes, I made her work for it. I did like the idea she spit on my cock, and had extra lube so it was very pleasurable. She did let me finger her pussy and ass while finishing the hand job. I shot my wad over my chest. Cleaned up, kissed a bit more, and that was it. . Ordinary I would say average to below average service with the double rubber, but again since it was first one of the nights I wasn’t in the mood to ***** about it. Looks 8/10, attitude 7/10, service 6/10. Total 50 euro for about 20 minutes screwing around in the kino and another 30 minutes in the room.
Angelica or Angelina, 27 yrs old, Greece
I am in the large smoking room, just lit a nice Cohiba Rubosto cigar, and found a nice corner on the couch where I could lay down, rest, and reflect back on my session with Niriana. Of course after my first session I showered, brushed teeth, combed hair, and even put on a dab of cologne. I think it was close to 9PM when a bombshell sandy-blonde hair and huge huge natural breasts, ass to dream for and a wonderful smile and sweet face, walks in and lights up a cigarette. We make eye contact immediately, smiled, and engaged in small talk. She had the sweetest voice and spoke better English than I did. Her name was Angelica or Angelina – I wish I remembered exactly but maybe you fine folks could help me out? She is 27 yrs old and from Greece. After about five minutes of chat she pulls the stool over close to me as the smoking room becomes a bit crowded. I give her a taste of the cigar, and she enjoyed it. We talked for a good ten minutes, mostly about life in the USA and such. She informed me she likes to read and studies western European history. She also likes to travel on holiday often. I knew I was talking to a seasoned pro that makes a very good living. At some point I asked her very respectfully I would like to session with her, but only after I finish the cigar as putting it out and relighting it something I never do as it ruins the flavor. She said no problem, she does not like to rush, is enjoying our chat and then asks if she can lay down next to me and cuddle on the couch until I finish. I inform her it may be at least 30 minutes, but she is more than welcome and in fact I would share the remaining of my cigar with her. She smiled, got up, and snuggled up with me and we stared deep kissing for perhaps as long as ten minutes. Then we would smoke some of the cigar, kiss more, smoke, kiss, and at one point were all over each other. My hand is all over her ass and probing her hot sexy asshole and pussy. She told me her two favorite things are anal sex and swallowing cum, but it would be total of 100 euro if I want that. She made it very clear that her standard session includes everything except those two. I could tell right away she made that point to exclude her from other girls that are up selling. So anyway, there we were in the smoking room of all places totally making out and it was nothing short of a full GFE experience. This probably went on for a total of 20 minutes before I couldn’t take it anymore and wanted to retreat to a room. Plus I could see other girls and customers in the room making comments like ‘go to the kino for this’, etc but neither one of us cared, we were just totally into each other it was amazing. I realized at some point my cock was in full view and rock hard after all her stroking.
In the room it was much of the same start with DFK – until she put this cream on her breasts and gave me a wonder massage with those two huge jugs. Then she gave me positively the most incredible blow job I have ever had. It was like she had no teeth. Good grief after only five minutes I was ready to explode, so I asked her to stop, we kissed for another ten minutes or so, then she put on a condom and we started fucking missionary. I fingered her ass, and yes I could tell that she does love anal as my entire index finger slid right in. I then wanted her to blow me some more, so we got in a 69 and absolutely sucked eat other off like no tomorrow. I asked her very nicely I would love to cum in her mouth. She greedily started to suck harder and faster, and at some point I exploded cum into her mouth.
I looked at my watch and we were in the room for over 40 minutes but she didn’t mind. I ask her very nicely I would enjoy giving her a nice sensual massage to show my additional thanks. She happily agreed, laid down on her tummy and I went to work. This gal was such a sweetheart and when I return next April I will visit her again. Looks 9/10, attitude 10/10, looks 10/10, performance 10/10I only saw her one more time throughout the rest of the night and that was walking back to the money lockers with a customer. Total damage 100 euro for about twenty minutes couch play and an hour in the room plus CIM. Life is good.
Question – was this girl the infamous ‘Lina’?
Isabelle (I think), 24 years old, Romania,
It is 2AM and I am in the kino. There is one other guy in there, and to be honest I wasn’t really looking to hook up again. I was lying back, watching a much improved porno from the last time I was in there, and in she walks. Tall, long hair brunette. She is the most amazing girl I have ever seen – not just at Palace but anywhere! She walks over and asks if she can rest with me. She did tell me her name but I forgot as the night wore on, believe it was Isabella or Isabell. So we lay there and talk for a while, then she cuddles up and asks if she can kiss me. Of course I say yes, and for the next 15 minutes it is some of the most passionate kissing I ever had. She made the room spin as I couldn’t believe how my luck was playing out. I looked down at my cock and noticed it has never been this large before. Off we go to a room, and magic happened. It wasn’t fucking, it was passionate lovemaking. 69, rimming, bbbj that was almost as good as the lady from Greece. She told me how much she wants to eat my cum, so I lay back and she proceeds with an amazing blowjob. She really had to work as I was exhausted from earlier. Then we had sex some more, and at some point had a DFK session that really turned me on like never before. Finally she finished with blowjob with CIM and it was terrific. Afterwards we laid there, DFK for another ten minutes or so, and then asked if I could give her a massage which I did for the next 15 minutes or so. Then more DFK. I looked at my watch and we were in the room for 1 hr 15 minutes. She said she would be taking a sauna and shower then going home. Looks 10/10, attitude 10/10, performance 10/10, cost 100 euro.
Finally, I recommend the following to enhance better service from the gals. It sounds cheesy, but maybe I am a cheesy guy. I always try to find a way to make a difference in everything I do, being such as…
1. Brush teeth between sessions
2. Use a different shampoo
3. Comb your hair after shower often
4. Spray on a little cologne
5. ‘Clean yourself up”, such as shave or trim your pubic area, or even get a fresh haircut
6. Smile all the time and say hello to all the women whether you want to session or not
7. Ask before you go in the room that afterwards you would like to give her a massage
8. If you do smoke, make sure you have plenty of matches, as when the girls enter the smoking room ask if you can light them up.
9. Be respectful as much as possible.
About me – I am 33 yrs old, from Indiana USA, International Sales however I only get to Germany about 3 times per year. My next trip will be in April or May, would be happy to meet up with fellow hobbyist to share war stories. While I have enjoyed women in Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, Netherlands, Japan nothing compares to the assorted selection at an FKK Club like Palace.
I did like the idea she spit on my cock, and had extra lube so it was very pleasurable. She did let me finger her pussy and ass while finishing the hand job. I shot my wad over my chest. Cleaned up, kissed a bit more, and that was it. Ordinary I would say average to below average service with the double rubber, but again since it was first one of the nights I wasn’t in the mood to ***** about it. Looks 8/10, attitude 7/10, service 6/10. Total 50 euro for about 20 minutes screwing around in the kino and another 30 minutes in the room.
All things considered it sounds like a pretty decent session and the way I understand it she could have charged extra for cumming on her. Did you negotiate or ask for it free in lieu of her making you use extra condoms?
Angelica or Angelina, 27 yrs old, Greece
In the room it was much of the same start with DFK – until she put this cream on her breasts and gave me a wonder massage with those two huge jugs. Then she gave me positively the most incredible blow job I have ever had. It was like she had no teeth. Good grief after only five minutes I was ready to explode, so I asked her to stop, we kissed for another ten minutes or so, then she put on a condom and we started fucking missionary. I fingered her ass, and yes I could tell that she does love anal as my entire index finger slid right in. I then wanted her to blow me some more, so we got in a 69 and absolutely sucked eat other off like no tomorrow. I asked her very nicely I would love to cum in her mouth. She greedily started to suck harder and faster, and at some point I exploded cum into her mouth.
I looked at my watch and we were in the room for over 40 minutes but she didn’t mind. I ask her very nicely I would enjoy giving her a nice sensual massage to show my additional thanks. She happily agreed, laid down on her tummy and I went to work. This gal was such a sweetheart and when I return next April I will visit her again. Looks 9/10, attitude 10/10, looks 10/10, performance 10/10I only saw her one more time throughout the rest of the night and that was walking back to the money lockers with a customer. Total damage 100 euro for about twenty minutes couch play and an hour in the room plus CIM. Life is good.
Sounds like a hell of a session where everything was up front especially when she said everything but those two things are included in the session.
The question I have for more experienced guys is why the clock wasn't ticking during the foreplay... or should it not be expect to be? I just thought I remember reading that girls will start the clock once they kiss you on the couch, or even kiss you and try that trick of saying you owe for half the session if you don't take her. So guys, did Dave get lucky here and just had a good girl that wasn't out to milk him(for money that is :) )?
Question – was this girl the infamous ‘Lina’?
Lina is a luscious blonde from Czech.
Isabelle (I think), 24 years old, Romania,
.......... Tall, long hair brunette. She is the most amazing girl I have ever seen – not just at Palace but anywhere! She walks over and asks if she can rest with me. She did tell me her name but I forgot as the night wore on, believe it was Isabella or Isabell............... It wasn’t fucking, it was passionate lovemaking. 69, rimming, bbbj that was almost as good as the lady from Greece. She told me how much she wants to eat my cum, so I lay back and she proceeds with an amazing blowjob. She really had to work as I was exhausted from earlier. Then we had sex some more, and at some point had a DFK session that really turned me on like never before. Finally she finished with blowjob with CIM and it was terrific. Afterwards we laid there, DFK for another ten minutes or so, and then asked if I could give her a massage which I did for the next 15 minutes or so. Then more DFK. I looked at my watch and we were in the room for 1 hr 15 minutes. She said she would be taking a sauna and shower then going home. Looks 10/10, attitude 10/10, performance 10/10, cost 100 euro.
Sounds like another good one. I think you hit the jackpot and had three good sessions, for whatever reason. There seems to have been some leeway for any of your girls to try for a little extra money if they were trying to be strict about time and all so you did very well. I know guys that get marginal service in the rooms from a single visit or two in Germany and say it sucks compared to wherever they claim to be their favorite. I love the girls when I connect and think they are as good as any. I especially appreciate how incredible some of them give BBBJ. When it's good, it's awesome.
Travelerb69
12-11-07, 01:30
Hi Dave, very nice reports, I myself have not been to any FKK yet, but it is going to be my next p4p destination.
From your reports I realize that you had lots of play with the girls in the kino, etc, it means, before you got to the room. So far from what I read here I thought that once you started DFK, BJ in the kino the "taxi meter" was already on and time would be counted even if you did not not go to a room, for instance, cum during a blow job or even fucking the girl in the kino or on a coach. And if you spent let us say ten minutes doing that you would have just 20 minutes more at the room out of the 30 minutes basic time.
So my question to everybody is:- once you begin with DFK or BJ outside the room it just means you are comitted to the girl and time just starts at the room or the time outside counts as well? And is it like this in all FKKs?
Thanks, Travelerb69.
Hi Dave, very nice reports, I myself have not been to any FKK yet, but it is going to be my next p4p destination.
From your reports I realize that you had lots of play with the girls in the kino, etc, it means, before you got to the room. So far from what I read here I thought that once you started DFK, BJ in the kino the "taxi meter" was already on and time would be counted even if you did not not go to a room, for instance, cum during a blow job or even fucking the girl in the kino or on a coach. And if you spent let us say ten minutes doing that you would have just 20 minutes more at the room out of the 30 minutes basic time.
So my question to everybody is:- once you begin with DFK or BJ outside the room it just means you are comitted to the girl and time just starts at the room or the time outside counts as well? And is it like this in all FKKs?
Thanks, Travelerb69.
The matter of timing a session isn't a science.
You can make it one by bringing a stopwatch with you and insisting she keep to the thirty minutes but rarely do the girls have a watch and almost none of the rooms have clocks.
In the end its very much the classic YMMV scenario: If you get along with her, she will bend the rules for you. If you don't get along with her or she has a devious mind, she will bend the rules in her favor.
If you take out your stopwatch because you want it a session timed to the second, you may ruin the mood. Your call.
Discussions about time spent together are, by the way, the biggest source of conflict. Its your word against hers.
You can make it one by bringing a stopwatch with you and insisting she keep to the thirty minutes but rarely do the girls have a watch and almost none of the rooms have clocks.
Probably best to at least wear a watch and make sure you know what time it is when you start, right? If you don't care about the money or it won't bother you to have a girl try to pull one on you by all means, forget about time and just ask her how much she would like to be paid. But at least if you look at a watch in front of her she will know that you know what time you started. If you really do owe her she should be paid if she asks. Keeping track of time some way seems to be the only option.
And it is interesting that we have someone reporting three sessions with different girls all went over; and, were initiated in one area and finished in another where girls did not, apparently, consider the initial encounter billable. That would sure be good news if it stuck. How bout at Bernde's, if you get couch action are girls normally running the clock or do they like to warm you up just in order to get you to the room and get a session started?
Plus I could see other girls and customers in the room making comments like ‘go to the kino for this’, etc but neither one of us cared,Yeah, you have to sympathize. This sort of behaviour can ruin a good smoke. I mean, with disgusting stuff like this going on you'd think we were in a brothel or something...
Probably best to at least wear a watch and make sure you know what time it is when you start, right? If you don't care about the money or it won't bother you to have a girl try to pull one on you by all means, forget about time and just ask her how much she would like to be paid. But at least if you look at a watch in front of her she will know that you know what time you started. If you really do owe her she should be paid if she asks. Keeping track of time some way seems to be the only option.
And it is interesting that we have someone reporting three sessions with different girls all went over; and, were initiated in one area and finished in another where girls did not, apparently, consider the initial encounter billable. That would sure be good news if it stuck. How bout at Bernde's, if you get couch action are girls normally running the clock or do they like to warm you up just in order to get you to the room and get a session started?
... and refer to it subtly so she knows you are keeping track of the time.
The keyword is "subtly".
You could say something like: In 30 Minuten muss ich einen Kollege anrufen. or Das Essen kommt bald, oder?. Just anything which makes you refer to your watch.
If you blatantly start a stop watch as you would in timing laps at a pool or track, you may inadvertently turn a non-clockwatcher into a clockwatcher.
There are women out there who will not mind if your session runs a little bit over 30 minutes. Then there are those who will want you to pay for thirty minutes though you were only in the room for fifteen.
And as has been written here lots of times, its a matter of chemistry. If she really wants to be with you because you are funny, sweet, etc... then she will bend the rules. If she thinks you are a jerk, smell odd, etc... the she will want to cut the session short.
Beware though of the "running up the clock" scam which has been discussed here as well where she tries to push the session into an extended session by pretending not to be watching the clock.
The women at Bernds are known not to be clockwatchers so long as you aren't abusive. The couch sessions are long and drawn out and they don't care as to whether you finish it right there or whether you retire to a room. The line between pre-coital and coital time is really very fuzzy at this club.
And at Bernds some extras which they charge you for at other clubs are considered included in their normal charges. It does depend on what she offers though.
Foreplay/DFK/BBBJ outside the room seals that you are committed to do a session, i.e. you cannot run away after she has your dick in her mouth or her tounge in yours. Having said that, I actually do not recall a session at any FKK club where the girl counted the time outside of room into the session, and I have done quite a few sessions. If you start in the kino and finish in the kino, of course then the whole time in the kino will count.
Silver Surfer
12-11-07, 22:58
veni, vidi, vici
eyes-wide-open dreams
two dream visits to sweet-fantasy-palace-world, early dec. words cannot describe magical moments that are frozen forever in my eyes but i'll give my best.
frankfurt. tuesday. early evening. rain drops in my hair, eyes, skin. subway from hbf. industriehof. smooth. so far, so good. caught in the icey cold german wind, standing in front of the six magical letters palace. still fkk virgin. took a deep breath and stepped in the addictive fkk universe.
professional-nice-lookin-ladies at the entrance. instructions
received. shower. stepping into clouds of sexy perfumes, scents of horny female bodies around bar, pool area. naked young bodies everywhere. loud energizing music all over the place.
the heart is biting inside my ribcage that i don't know how to control. images of pure beauty caught by the eyes. perfection. sistine chapel of the sin.
the brain is shocked. 40ish young beauties relaxing. 6-7 goddesses. prefect asses, legs, breasts, teeth, lips, smiles.
more smiles, eye contacts, gentle touches, soft words exchanged with many. but i suppress my desire and wait. in pursue for perfection.
i flirt with them. gently reject 7s and 8s. make jokes. they sniff my perfume, smile, talk sexy. no fuss. no zimmer talks. just enjoying their beauty and youth.
after a while its time for a hunt. fawns are carefully selected. 10s or stunners only.
my dreamgirls :
ewa
- 23 years old polish honey. blond, tall, slim, natural big see breast, psychedelic teardrop eyes, super long lags, very pro, moderately friendly, interesting, poor english
- gfe, good bj, ball licking, multiple positions
- a perfect, magical, sex robot. a dream girl from adolescence wet dreams mirjana (born in germany, croatian hot blood)
- gfe-loli-type, early twenties, small breast, blond extended fair, cat-like-face, glimmering eyes, shining smile, fun friendly personality
- bj w sensual ball licking, multiple positions
- an excellent gfe. a lot of fun
pamela
- a dark beauty from panama. 23 years. lives in barcelona, . brazilian type. athletic, strong muscular body. enhanced tits. tight body. not tall, compact. big mouth, nice face. dreaded hair. perfect small rounded ass, scorpio-but-tatoo
- clean girl. uses disinfect solutions, dfk, great bj, multiple positions
- an incredible doggy experience. ass: pure perfection one day break. cold thursday evening. magical palace again
crystal
- jamaica-dominica-chica, 23 years. creole-look. cappuccino-color, soft skin. belly-button-pierced. definitely gf-type. beautiful smile, not tall, soft skin, compact-pocket-venus. straight black long hair, perfect ass
- dfk, bj w ball licking, mouth fuck, multiple positions
- great-sensual-cappuccino-gf-beauty. definitely a dreamgirl
kim
- 20 years old stunner from germany. blond. beautiful [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) face. 10+. amazing model figure. 174 cm. long lags. perfect natural tits. big mouth. sensual lips
- dfk, hand job in the smoking room. great kneeling bj w stunning eye contact in vip lounge. mouth fuck. multiple positions. incredible standing doggy
- fantastic session. too good to be truth. amazing perfect [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)
- about the palace
stylish gents club. excellent interior design. dominant black color. class, style are the air! (personal opinion: palace = stylish french restaurant with limited but excellent menu incl 1st class interior. oasa = mc donalds, no style, majority medium quality, but big, big quantity, a sin factory.
i had an incredible, magical experience with all five dreamgirls. no shark experiences. no fuss. no bad zimmer surprises. only a pure-pleasure-sessions with the girls.
a piece of advise: read recommendations and advises but follow your instincts. be friendly, relaxed. flirt. smile. be gentle with the girls. treat them with respect. give them gf treatment and they'll give you paradise!
have no fear, but be warned: after fkk experience you'll never be the same. you'll discover a full spectrum of new colors that are visible for just a small percentage of male population. you'll step out of the dark, out of the box, and step in the shiny, addictive universe of a pure pleasure!
(*more on my oasa experience in o. section, soon.)
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Dave Jamsis
12-12-07, 03:31
Hi Dave, very nice reports, I myself have not been to any FKK yet, but it is going to be my next p4p destination.
From your reports I realize that you had lots of play with the girls in the kino, etc, it means, before you got to the room. So far from what I read here I thought that once you started DFK, BJ in the kino the "taxi meter" was already on and time would be counted even if you did not not go to a room, for instance, cum during a blow job or even fucking the girl in the kino or on a coach. And if you spent let us say ten minutes doing that you would have just 20 minutes more at the room out of the 30 minutes basic time.
So my question to everybody is:- once you begin with DFK or BJ outside the room it just means you are comitted to the girl and time just starts at the room or the time outside counts as well? And is it like this in all FKKs?
Thanks, Travelerb69.
You are only committed when a bbbj occurs. And I would probably say very deep DFKing, as if you engage in that type of kissing you probably want to session with the girl anyways. The time does not start until you enter the room.
Dave Jamsis
12-12-07, 03:33
A piece of advise: read recommendations and advises but follow your instincts. Be friendly, relaxed. Flirt. Smile. Be gentle with the girls. Treat them with respect. Give them GF treatment and they'll give you paradise!
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Great advice, cannot agree with you more about treating them with respect, smile and by all means be gentle. You will be amazed what the payback is
Nick The G
12-12-07, 18:24
Have no fear, but be warned: after fkk experience you'll never be the same. You'll discover a full spectrum of new colors that are visible for just a small percentage of male population. You'll step out of the dark, out of the box, and step in the shiny, addictive universe of a pure pleasure!I agree, for sure it is an overwhelming experience if you enter a large german FKK-Club like Palace for the first time. My first club was the famous Atlantis in Altenstadt . Sure, by doing this you will step out of the so called "normal".
Sure, there you can have a nice time with lots of pleasure and fun. And you are right, maybe affordable for just a small percentage of the male population.
But in contrast to you I would say: if you do this, there is a big chance that you will proceed out of the so called "normal" dark into a tunnel-like deep dark. An artificially kept dark universe with no sun but filled with shiny silicon enhanced "celestial bodies", a universe of shiny illusions, driven and accompanied by lots of lies, rotating upon and enabled by .... money!
For comparison: by getting AIDS or losing a leg or an eye or by shooting somebody else to death you will step out of the normal too. This too is experienced by just a small percentage of the male population.
Addiction is a very severe illness. I would hesitate to glorify addiction, no matter in what form it will show up!
Dave Jamsis
12-12-07, 18:58
Addiction is a very severe illness. I would hesitate to glorify addiction, no matter in what form it will show up!
I would be curious to ask those (or any of you) that are local to any FKK, but we can use Palace as an example, how many times do you go per year?
For me, I can justify spending 275-325 euro at Palace twice a year. It's worth it, especially after my last visit. You are king for a day surrounded by the most beautiful women in all the world. Upon leaving you won't appricaite the humbling experience until you are back in reality.
How do I further justify? I no longer vist any strip clubs here in the USA. It is amazing in the past how I would pay $20 USD for a lap dance where you can't even touch the girl. On top of $8 beers, $10 cover, etc...a typical night at a strip club can cost you $100-$150 easy.
However, if I lived in Frankfurt, I would indeed have a BIG problem. How could I not? I am just wondering how people that live there deal with it....
Nick The G
12-12-07, 20:42
However, if I lived in Frankfurt, I would indeed have a BIG problem. How could I not? I am just wondering how people that live there deal with it....Imho it is not so much a problem of where you live and how many brothels or clubs or whatever are around - and in what distance - in the first instance. It's more related to your inner environment. Many men live in the Rhein-Main-Gebiet around Frankfurt and would never feel the need or the wish to visit such a club!
Maybe others don't feel this need but are addicted to business career, cars, horse racing, gambling, alkohol, drugs, ...
Well, we might ask ourselves some general questions:
- feeling empty and/or bored?
- a need to constantely compensate for something missing in our life (hidden in the under- or unconscious)?
- acting like a grown up man with sharp intellect and successful in business but with emotional skills and needs equivalent to a 1-3 years old child?
- wanting to escape from obligations related to our family?
- feeling guilty about our high level of sexual desire and don't know how to handle it in relationships?
- having enough money or are willing to spend a lot of our money to visit the "shiny universe"?
- need to be "king for a day" not only twice a year but one to four times a month. Regarding this as a hobby and feeling the need to be "king for a day" one to four times every week?
- need to "process" a lot of women in those clubs to establish the status of an "expert", e.g. when meeting with your friends or when writing in a forum like this one?
That makes a big difference!
If you have an addicitve core process in your psyche, sort of an addiction addicted operating system, you will end up like this. Seems to be fun for quite a while on the way.
We are responsible for our life and where we spent our life time and direct our streams of energy and money to. For sure not the clubs and not the girls in the clubs are responsible for what we do in and with our life!
With regards to "Palace", I have a simple answer: as judged by distance it's the closest club (of the large clubs in Hessen) to the place where I live. But I've been there only once this year! :-) Things were different, when charming Marina used to work there.
Nick,
Great insight, and I just love your headlines:) But really, are there any human beings out there, that are free of addiction/obsession? If it's not fucking prostitutes, it's the stamp collection or the local soccer team or... Or is it a question of good vs. bad addiction?
Nick,
Great insight, and I just love your headlines:) But really, are there any human beings out there, that are free of addiction/obsession? If it's not fucking prostitutes, it's the stamp collection or the local soccer team or... Or is it a question of good vs. bad addiction?
... as visiting clubs is visiting this forum and posting.
I need to cut back!
Veni, vidi, vici
Don't you mean "Vidi, vici, veni?"
Hessen Bub
12-15-07, 11:38
I However, if I lived in Frankfurt, I would indeed have a BIG problem. How could I not? I am just wondering how people that live there deal with it....
It is not only Palace, it's the other clubs too. Driving distance from the office:
Palace: 20 minutes.
Oase: 20 minutes.
FKKW: 35 minutes.
Atlantik: 30 minutes.
How do you deal with it? It is very different. I tend to club twice a week, and don't ask about the money, my eyes get wet everytime I look at my bank account. But no, I do not regret a cent. The money is not gone, it is just somewhere else. There was a British soccer player, he said: I spent half of my capital for women, booze and cars. The other half I just guzzled senselessly. ;.) You only live once.
To be serious: It would be easier if the clubs were not so close. And Nick is right, times were different when Marina was still working. But I am glad she quit, she sounds very happy and I feel happy for her too. But there's still a lot of very nice other new girls - you just have to find them.
HB
It is not only Palace, it's the other clubs too. Driving distance from the office:
Palace: 20 minutes.
Oase: 20 minutes.
FKKW: 35 minutes.
Atlantik: 30 minutes.
How do you deal with it? It is very different. I tend to club twice a week, and don't ask about the money, my eyes get wet everytime I look at my bank account. But no, I do not regret a cent. The money is not gone, it is just somewhere else. There was a British soccer player, he said: I spent half of my capital for women, booze and cars. The other half I just guzzled senselessly. ;.) You only live once.
To be serious: It would be easier if the clubs were not so close. And Nick is right, times were different when Marina was still working. But I am glad she quit, she sounds very happy and I feel happy for her too. But there's still a lot of very nice other new girls - you just have to find them.
HB
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." George Best RIP
I was curious to return to Palace and felt a kind of indebted to this place which made me discover this world. Like the first love, who you will never forget, you cannot forget your first FKK experience as well!
But I have to say that this time the impression was much different. In my opinion the place has gone somewhat downhill since last February. This for sure in the lineup of girls (also my first visit was on a Thursday, but hell, what a difference! ). For what concerns the attitude of the girls and the quality of service you can get, I was quite worried, after reading some reports, but, in my experience I cannot say that it has gotten any worse than before.
I knew, as I heard them talking about it on the bus from the airport, that I would have encountered a bunch of Italians there. I was tempted to tell them "I see you later", upon exiting the bus. I didn’t have the occasion, but getting to know them was unavoidable, as, in fact, I found them later at the looker room?
A first recognition of the place left me quite cool, so I took my time looking for perhaps new arrivals (it was about 18:00). I denied politely a number of approaches of the girls. Talking to the guys I met also helped in avoiding the harassment of the girls, but after some time, while I was talking to a fellow, sat on one of those tall chairs, a girl came to interrupt our conversation. She leaned herself on me, as to adhere her body to mine as much as possible.
* Irina
Among the girls present, she was the one I liked most, it would have been difficult to say no this time. Irina, 25, of St. Petersburg, has a pretty face, no more than C natural cups, but a small waist and a generous firm bottom, for the lovers of the genre Should be 165-170 cm tall without heels, about my size with. Being suspicious, I tried to get assurance about what she will allow me to do, she said everything, so, with her face close to mine, I didn’t hesitate to taste her DFK.
Once in the room she spread her legs wide offering to my excitation the sight of her open pussy, that I fingered and licked. Her BJ was great, and given a long abstinence, I felt I was about to come in her mouth. I succeeded in refraining myself, because I also wanted to fuck her. That what I did, but after maybe 15’, I unloaded inside her. She smiled, and, perhaps teasing me, she exclaimed "Finito! " (ended), one of the few Italian words she learned with this job. I didn’t like this, but she appeared not willing of leaving immediately the room. So, as I already did successfully more than once, when I encounter a girl I like particularly, I proposed her to extend time to 1h, as the conditions seemed to me favorable for a hot second run.
As I already confessed in my previous reports, at my age (52) this is commonly impossible to do in just 1h, perhaps in 2h, but I already experimented that it’s feasible with some chemical help (the yellow pill in my case). Thus I was also confident on this, but unfortunately too confident!
We laid down for some petting and exploration of each other body. Perhaps this is all what I would have needed to regain mental and physical excitation. Observing and caressing her body while glimpsing at her smile. However patience is not one the virtue of Irina. She felt soon the need to switch to action.
I already noticed before that this girl is a almost a contortionist and she gave me some essays of her capabilities, but she was there for sex, so she decided to start to blow me again. But I may say it was too early for me, I was not yet receptive and it was counterproductive. The beautiful Irina was not succeeding in getting my dick hard! You may say: it was you that, etc. , a viewpoint matter.
It’s commonplace that women sexuality is much more complicated than ours, this should be certainly true, but ours is not as simple as pushing a button! Some girls probably think it’s that simple.
After not yet 40’ the girl started saying "no, let’s, go! ". I didn’t even think that, at that point, she could have asked just for a 50, so I intended to use my hour, still with a small hope of clicking with her. But social time was hard, also because her English is not so good, moreover she kept asking what I wanted that she did, and every 5-6’ she was proposing of getting out, hopeless. So not a very exciting situation and not a good way too start. I don’t remember how I managed to end up the hour. I realized later she is the famous Irina described enthusiastically by some youppie writers. Well, good for them, this shows, once again, that mileage with girls may vary a lot depending on the situation.
NOTE: I discovered at my expense that the yellow pill helps, but cannot do miracles! As a matter of fact I failed to get a strong erection in two occasions during this trip, despite I took the pill. However I may say I was not in good physical and mental conditions in both cases. In this case I was getting out of: 1) a night were I couldn’t sleep well; 2) a long trip; 3) a bad meal, + 4) I was mentally not yet in the game, so. Maybe a stronger dosage could have worked (I keep it to the minimum to avoid collateral effects), but perhaps it’s better to consider with attention each own global condition, before making commitment to a pill!
Very disturbed by what happened I tried to forget it. Fortunately dinner time arrived and then I took a long time on a sofa to relax and observe the scene, but I often had to refuse girls’ proposals.
Then I noticed a tall, slim, well shaped girl, with long blond hair collected in ponytail, who also was surprisingly not active and laid on a sofa. I kept observing her. At a certain point she moved to another place. She was not proposing herself, but nobody was asking for her company!
I thus decided to move and sat close to her, but, just when I was about to call for her attention, a girl arrived and cuddled me, making a lot of noise like if meeting a long lost friend! In fact she claimed to remember me from my last time there (! ). Although difficult to believe this appeared to be true, as she talked to me partly in Spanish and partly in Italian! Actually I didn’t remember of her, but it seemed to me ungenerous at that point to deny a conversation with her, as she also promised "dai parliamo solo un po’" (come on, just to talk a little bit), so I followed her in the sofa in front of us. She is from Cuba, tall, slim, dark, almost black complexion. A quite funny and energetic girl, but, although I spent some time in Cuba years ago, and clicked with black girls there and in other occasions, not my type at the moment. Was a nice conversation, but after a while I had to confirm I was not interested in taking her to a room, and to enforce this statement I said I like more blond girls, which was just the truth, particularly on that occasion. Not at all disturbed by what I said she seized the opportunity to advise me: "So you should go with my friend over there (the blond girl of above! ). She is nice and provides good service, she won’t push you, you will be satisfied". "Well, that’s exactly what I wanted to do before you arrived", I thought; in any case, good news. Then, she was gentle and invited her girl friend to join us, and after introducing her to me, she left. What a kind girl, after all I have to thank her, and I forgot her name. Have some of you recognized her?
* Luisa
Thus I finally found myself with my blonde girl. I explained her what happened and she laughed. Luisa claims to be Swedish and to be 30 YO. She honestly admits of being in this business since 10 years, and she complains of getting perhaps too old for it. I reassured her she still beats in look most of her younger competitors. She said of not being interested in processing many clients, like most girls do, preferring her regular clients, who sometimes book her for hours. But in some days it also happens that she come in here just for a meal and a shower, she said! And I was very much surprised of that. She claimed of speaking, besides Swedish, German, English, and Turkish. Turkish? I asked? Yes, she has a bunch of Turkish friends, she replied. You know, in Germany they have a lot of people of Turkish origin, however this make me suspect she could also be, at least partly, Turkish herself, wouldn’t it be strange to find a pure Swedish pearl lost in a German brothel? Anyway, I didn’t really care of her origins, what really mattered to me was that I liked her, and, apparently to me, we also established some feelings with our conversation. We started kissing on the couch and went to a room shortly thereafter.
At first I admired her still perfect body. Although I get often excited by women with larger tits than hers, I am always enchanted by perfection of proportions, and Luisa’s body, with its long legs and all curves at their right place is just like a woman’s body should be. She is completely shaved, so I cannot tell if she is a true blonde or not. She let me finger her only with a condom, which I think is a little bit weird, but for the rest she allow me to do everything and our intercourse turned out to be hot and passionate. A real GFE experience and a great fuck! I used all my energy with her and she said I am strong We got all sweat, but approaching the end of the regular time I realized I couldn’t come, so I saved the last few minutes to kiss and embrace her as to thank her for the great time she gave me.
If I will ever return to Palace she certainly is a repeat option, but she said she is not there everyday. Perhaps I should call first. I asked what she does in her days off. "I sleep a lot", she said.
After the session with Luisa I was feeling really exhausted and I couldn’t perceive any signal from my friend below. So I plunge myself in the pool to relax. Some more time on a couch to observe the scene, but I knew I couldn’t go for another session, plus I was also thinking that I had to recover for the day after at Berdns. So I left the place, just in time for the last run of the metro.
Going back to the hotel I tried to summarize the day. After all, not a negative experience. Most of the negativity came from my faults rather than from girls’ bad attitude, so, not all girls at Palace are sharks, but you need to activate your GFE radar, if you, like me, are looking for this type of relations. You should be cautious, and also lucky, but this is true for every place like this.
(Continues with: "Friday at Bernds")
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Veni, vidi, vici
Eyes-wide-open dreams
Frankfurt. Tuesday. Early evening. Rain drops in my hair, eyes, skin. Subway from hbf. Industriehof. Smooth. So far, so good. Caught in the icey cold german wind, standing in front of the six magical letters PALACE. Still fkk virgin. Took a deep breath and stepped in the addictive fkk universe.Welcome aboard Silver Surfer!
The heart is biting inside my ribcage that I don't know how to control. Images of pure beauty caught by the eyes. Perfection. Sistine chapel of the sin.
The brain is shocked. 40ish young beauties relaxing. 6-7 goddesses. Prefect asses, legs, breasts, teeth, lips, smiles.How much I understand you! I shared your same experiences my first time on Febraury.
Cold Thursday evening. Magical palace again
I had an incredible, magical experience with all five dreamgirls. No shark experiences. No fuss. No bad zimmer surprises. Only a pure-pleasure-sessions with the girls.
A piece of advise: read recommendations and advises but follow your instincts. Be friendly, relaxed. Flirt. Smile. Be gentle with the girls. Treat them with respect. Give them GF treatment and they'll give you paradise!
Have no fear, but be warned: after fkk experience you'll never be the same. You'll discover a full spectrum of new colors that are visible for just a small percentage of male population. You'll step out of the dark, out of the box, and step in the shiny, addictive universe of a pure pleasure!You mean Thursday 6th? So we both were there. As I wrote, my impression was different, but perhaps is because I already got addicted :)
As for your considerations I perfectly agree with you.
I also like your style in writing reports, quick but effective, looks like the notes I write before actually writing mine.
but, as I said, then I like to indulge in details.
Nick The G
12-17-07, 01:46
I tend to club twice a week, and don't ask about the money, my eyes get wet everytime I look at my bank account. But no, I do not regret a cent. The money is not gone, it is just somewhere else.Haaaa, great story! I love it!
Seems one can get addicted to wet eyes!
Sure, you need to make girls wet twice a week to compensate for your wet eyes? Lol! (or you are a german protestant and following the rule of Martin Luther: "In der Woche zwier, schadet weder Dir noch Ihr!" ;-) )
Boys, by the way, after a week of reconstruction, the FKK-World in Pohlheim has reopened its "Wintergarten", a complete new World, IMHO in style it now looks more like Oase or Palace over there!
Upstairs in the Wintergarten almost nothing's left of the good old FKK-World anymore, downstairs it still looks quite familiar with most of the things beautifully renovated and redecorated!
Boys, by the way, after a week of reconstruction, the FKK-World in Pohlheim has reopened its "Wintergarten", in style it now looks similar to Oase or Palace over there! Nothing's left of the good old FKK-World anymore!
Wow- just one week to transform the airline terminal into ancient Roma/Arabia. This I've got to see. Are the Hells Angels wearing togas or turbans?
beffen
Silver Surfer, .
Wow, great report!
Got my Germany trip planned, will be there in February, can't wait to go now!
Sounds like heaven.
I would be curious to ask those (or any of you) that are local to any FKK, but we can use Palace as an example, how many times do you go per year?
For me, I can justify spending 275-325 euro at Palace twice a year. It's worth it, especially after my last visit. You are king for a day surrounded by the most beautiful women in all the world. Upon leaving you won't appricaite the humbling experience until you are back in reality.
How do I further justify? I no longer vist any strip clubs here in the USA. It is amazing in the past how I would pay $20 USD for a lap dance where you can't even touch the girl. On top of $8 beers, $10 cover, etc...a typical night at a strip club can cost you $100-$150 easy.
However, if I lived in Frankfurt, I would indeed have a BIG problem. How could I not? I am just wondering how people that live there deal with it....
I noticed this post a few days back and thought it was an interesting question. First of all, thanks to all the guys in this forum. It's great to share mongering experiences. Well, I can justify going to the clubs in the Hessen region for sure. The value in comparison of what you get back in the states is almost unreal.
Some memories in my long and distinguished mongering career........Well it all started on a cold, dark rainy night many, many years ago in the US. First chick was a street walker. Cost at the time was $40. It was a quickie. The scene in the sleazy hotel was not of porn star quality but it was a goal to do it without getting busted.
Which brings me to my next memory. Driving on another street in another state in the US. Drive up to another streetwalker.....Quote SW: What do you want baby? Quote Hamboner: How about $100 bucks for a screw? Quote SW: Well why don't you pull over there around the corner and I will meet you. Thought Hamboner: "I'm fucked" Sure enough as I rounded the corner, a vice squad pulls me over and I am fucked. This could be the best reason why mongering in Germany is one of the best areas to screw. It is legal here, where the only areas where it is legal is Nevada and only certain parts which brings me to my next memory.
Watching porn in some sleazy hotel in downtown Las Vegas. (Mike Horner......You guys know him? Really grunts and moans while he fucks women.....Great porn for a sleazy hotel. Call an escort. Cost $300 bucks. Girls comes in and she already begins complaining as soon as she walks in the door. Finally get her clothes off.....if I remember correctly, it was just her top off. Then she proceeds to put a condom on my cock and starts whacking me off........all the time she says quote: "I am going to rock your world" Hamboner thought: "Why the fuck did I agree to pay someone to whack me off watching Mike Horner grunt and groan when I could have went to Walgreens, bought some Jergens motion lotion for $2, and whacked myself off for almost nothing. Another reason why mongering in Germany rocks.
Another experience. Blue Moon ranch, Las Vegas desert where it is legal...after driving several hours out in the desert. I arrive at a sleazy Mobile home type trailer. Walk into a dark, bar area and open up a "Fuck Album" Here you can survey the available women and choose. I choose the best one available. Looks 4, Service 3 Service included a covered BJ, no DFK, no DATY very impersonable session. Cost if I remember was around $300. A friend of mine who just visited from Cali, told me he has paid 2 Grand, Yes, two fucking thousand dollars for two separate impersonable sessions with average women at another legal establishment out in the Vegas desert. This is fucked up.
Well with all these memories in my head, I can justify going to an an FKK where you can be surrounded by NAKED gorgeous women who will treat you like a King for the day. 50 Euros for 30 minutes of BBBJ, DFK, DATY, GFE type sex is unbelieveable value when compared to the above. Yes, it is addictive. Even with a beautiful significant other, men need variety.
Happy mongering.
You are only committed when a bbbj occurs. And I would probably say very deep DFKing, as if you engage in that type of kissing you probably want to session with the girl anyways. The time does not start until you enter the room.I think this is questionable and would like to hear about somebody’s else experience.
I mean, for example, can someone witness of a 20’ BJ outside of a room followed by a full 30’ session paid just 50€?
Moreover, you can consume all you session outside of a room, like usually happens at the kino. So what?
During one of my first visits I asked a girl on the subject and she said that also the preliminaries outside of the room should be counted. At least from the time you start a really DFK or receiving a BBBJ, as you said.
I don't remember exactly, but I think I also received confirmation of this by the woman at the door.
Then I have no more considered the matter, as I realized that girls are usually tolerant for preliminaries up to 10’, here like in other clubs, and I usually fall in this range, unless I am at Berdns.
Just wanted to say that I visited Palace on a Sunday recently and it was actually quite dead. There might have been more guys than girls. Over the course of the evening I got a lot of conversational time with a few girls and I believe one said that is how Sundays have been for some time. I remember a few Sundays when it seemed like the selection was really pretty good and fairly busy, but my memory might be off. To be honest, I would have to say there were probably only about six girls I would say were very doable by my standards(what appeals to me). But I think it was Sunday a couple weeks before Xmas and a lot of girls were just not working, probably starting holidays. Lina from Czech and Kim from Germany were there so that's all I really needed. To me they are both very attractive and treated me well in the room. I'm sure everything is normal at Palace, just that I was there a little too close to Xmas and on a Sunday at that. Next year I will go the first week of December, but not later.
Silver Surfer
12-27-07, 22:01
Just wanted to say that I visited Palace on a Sunday recently and it was actually quite dead. There might have been more guys than girls. Over the course of the evening I got a lot of conversational time with a few girls and I believe one said that is how Sundays have been for some time. I remember a few Sundays when it seemed like the selection was really pretty good and fairly busy, but my memory might be off. To be honest, I would have to say there were probably only about six girls I would say were very doable by my standards(what appeals to me). But I think it was Sunday a couple weeks before Xmas and a lot of girls were just not working, probably starting holidays. Lina from Czech and Kim from Germany were there so that's all I really needed. To me they are both very attractive and treated me well in the room. I'm sure everything is normal at Palace, just that I was there a little too close to Xmas and on a Sunday at that. Next year I will go the first week of December, but not later.Mmmmm, Kim
Just wanted to say that I visited Palace on a Sunday recently and it was actually quite dead. There might have been more guys than girls. Over the course of the evening I got a lot of conversational time with a few girls and I believe one said that is how Sundays have been for some time. I remember a few Sundays when it seemed like the selection was really pretty good and fairly busy, but my memory might be off. To be honest, I would have to say there were probably only about six girls I would say were very doable by my standards(what appeals to me). But I think it was Sunday a couple weeks before Xmas and a lot of girls were just not working, probably starting holidays. Lina from Czech and Kim from Germany were there so that's all I really needed. To me they are both very attractive and treated me well in the room. I'm sure everything is normal at Palace, just that I was there a little too close to Xmas and on a Sunday at that. Next year I will go the first week of December, but not later.Kim is lovely. A Jennifer Alba lookalike. And really friendly, too.
Chris Goodison
12-30-07, 05:05
Hi guys, sorry to gatecrash this forum.
I have been to Prague before and made use of the ace facilities. However, me and the guys are looking for something new this time, in short, would you guys recommend Frankfurt over Prague?
From what I have read it seems to be cheaper and the girls hotter? Is this really the case, if it is I think its sold!
Ta guys, CG.
Dave Jamsis
01-02-08, 03:05
Hi guys, sorry to gatecrash this forum.
I have been to Prague before and made use of the ace facilities. However, me and the guys are looking for something new this time, in short, would you guys recommend Frankfurt over Prague?
From what I have read it seems to be cheaper and the girls hotter? Is this really the case, if it is I think its sold!
Ta guys, CG.
Greetings Chris-
You know, I have never been to Prague and once thought of the same question (reversed). I travel to Europe 3-4 times a year, and always work it that on my final night before traveling back to USA I stay overnight in Frankfurt. For one reason, The Palace (read my past reports for details).
After my experiences there I don't think I will ever deviate from my little 'tradition' I started over a year ago. I guess I am biased for that matter, but it is my observation that on a given night at Palace you will see some of the most beautiful women in the world, which come from many many different cultures
Harry Dude
01-02-08, 21:30
Stopped by Palace early on Sunday, and to my surprise Dinara (Kazakhstan) was there - and she even remembered by rather tricky name. We had an excellent time together: Lots of very passionate, deep kissing, followed by a tremendously long BBBJ sucking session, interspersed with some french kissing every now and then to break the rhythm. Dinara can get very passionate and makes all the right noises at the right times, and we had nonstop sex for about 40 minutes in the room. Lots of time spend with her riding me, changing between sitting up cowgirl style, and leaning forward engaged in deep kissing while she is riding me hard. It was hard work, sweaty, intimate, and exhilirating - all at the same time.
first, if flodhast reads this, there is a question for you further down.
had the pleaseure to visit the palace towards the end of december. took the u-bahn to industriehof and walked over to the club early in the evening.
entrance was 75e.
there was more ladies than men at this time. at first i made the mistake of picking an asian woman. at the palace, i think i'll make a rule to stick with the eastern europeans and skip the asians and the carrribean island ones. more about this later.
tan was from shanghai, about 30, medium hair, nice lithe build, no body markings, stays away from the other girls and advertises her wares by kneeling on the couch underneath the pole-dancing platform and displaying her bald ****, doggy style. she turned me on and i went up and inquired about making a trip to the back. off we went. she was rather a bust in bed. i asked for some sucking to warm me up, and she broke out her disinfectant kit and tissues. she had the demanor of a dental asistant. she could barely get my cock in her mouth without taking it out, inspecting for pre-come fluid and dabbing frantically at it with the tissue. very clinical. i was however horny and determined to have a good time, so i got hard despite the bad bj and enganged her in some straight misionary fucking with a rubber on. tan did the old close-the-legs trick to keep me from having a good deep time. so i concentrated on ejaculating, mision finally acomplished after a few minutes of listing to annoying "komm now baby" from tan. afterwards she had the gall to ask me if it was good! i just shook my had and forked over the 50e. she even asked me later fir a repeat. you'd exepect someone in her business to have a clue about what constitites good sex, but alas. her body was really the made-for-fucking kind, i just wish her brain was the same. her **** looked real nice both from behind and spread out.
for number two i asked jenna, a smallish slim pretty russian blonde of 25 with medium hair and two tasteful pussy piercings. jenna was a keeper. she kissed lovely, sucked me gently with expert technique. i had first given her some nice oral attention, and she gladly turned around and offered me her **** to rub (but not finger) while she sucked me. this was getting good. have you noticed how it often is the skinniest girls that have the most pliable and delicious buttholes? jenna was no exception and she didn't mind a bit of fingering in her ass. she asked if i wanted anal, but i decided to preserve some cash for later.
she fucked me cowgirl (with a rubber, of course) and made me come in expert fashion. i gave her 50e and 10e tip for her excellent performance.
girl 3 was where i made the fatal mistake. i picked a tallish skinny cuban girl with longish curly hair. her name i must have forgotten. this one was horrible and i had to break off the session. i asked her if she kisses, and she said yes, but then reneged in the room. then she broke out a dildo, probably to do the upsell (meaning more services and money). i asked her instead to inspire me by opening her legs an showing me her pussy, and she refused. that's when i told her the deal was off an i walked out. she made a stink at the front desk, and i had to explain to the mutti-san and vati-san that she would not perform. they insisted i should pay her 20e, but i held steady, even after vati-san threatened that i had to leave. the two of them eventually relented, and i stayed.
at this point i was a bit pissed, so i decided to go for a sure thing with jenna again. unfortunately, i was also perturbed by the whole cuban missile crisis, and jenna had to work pretty hard until i came in her mouth 60min and 150e later. not her fault, she took things slow and hinted about "the *****" that i had tried earlier. the cim was beautiful, a real pornstar experience with cum dribbling out of her mouth in a nice fashion.
speaking of pornstar, jenna indicated that she made films under the name jenna kyle, but i must have the wrong spelling. flodhest, you posted about jenna earlier, do you know how to find her?
in between the various above sessions, i hung out, showered, steamed, drank, ate, slept and relaxed at the kino. i got quite a bit of very good teasing action from various girls in the kino, mostly the chubby and carribean or latino ones, and some russian ones. but i was either too pooped or had my heart set on someone else during these intermissions. several other guys got a bj in there and then trotted off to the rooms somewhere in the middle.
one of them even fucked a girl doggy while i watched. along the way, i met a dominican girl that gave me a fairly lackluster fuck at my previous visit. she was surprised i remembered her name, and equally surprised when i never picked her again. that will be my little secret.
there was also 2-3 other asian girls (thai?) in the room, but after the clinical experience with tan i think they sensed that i was avoiding them, perhaps unfairly, but nevertheless.
all in all a good trip, with a bump along the way. jenna is definitely recommended. it would be great if someone could find her online for me.
schuss.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
first, if flodhast reads this, there is a question for you further down.
had the pleaseure to visit the palace towards the end of december. took the u-bahn to industriehof and walked over to the club early in the evening.
entrance was 75e.
there was more ladies than men at this time. at first i made the mistake of picking an asian woman. at the palace, i think i'll make a rule to stick with the eastern europeans and skip the asians and the carrribean island ones. more about this later.
tan was from shanghai, about 30, medium hair, nice lithe build, no body markings, stays away from the other girls and advertises her wares by kneeling on the couch underneath the pole-dancing platform and displaying her bald ****, doggy style. she turned me on and i went up and inquired about making a trip to the back. off we went. she was rather a bust in bed. i asked for some sucking to warm me up, and she broke out her disinfectant kit and tissues. she had the demanor of a dental asistant. she could barely get my cock in her mouth without taking it out, inspecting for pre-come fluid and dabbing frantically at it with the tissue. very clinical. i was however horny and determined to have a good time, so i got hard despite the bad bj and enganged her in some straight misionary fucking with a rubber on. tan did the old close-the-legs trick to keep me from having a good deep time. so i concentrated on ejaculating, mision finally acomplished after a few minutes of listing to annoying "komm now baby" from tan. afterwards she had the gall to ask me if it was good! i just shook my had and forked over the 50e. she even asked me later fir a repeat. you'd exepect someone in her business to have a clue about what constitites good sex, but alas. her body was really the made-for-fucking kind, i just wish her brain was the same. her **** looked real nice both from behind and spread out.
for number two i asked jenna, a smallish slim pretty russian blonde of 25 with medium hair and two tasteful pussy piercings. jenna was a keeper. she kissed lovely, sucked me gently with expert technique. i had first given her some nice oral attention, and she gladly turned around and offered me her **** to rub (but not finger) while she sucked me. this was getting good. have you noticed how it often is the skinniest girls that have the most pliable and delicious buttholes? jenna was no exception and she didn't mind a bit of fingering in her ass. she asked if i wanted anal, but i decided to preserve some cash for later.
she fucked me cowgirl (with a rubber, of course) and made me come in expert fashion. i gave her 50e and 10e tip for her excellent performance.
girl 3 was where i made the fatal mistake. i picked a tallish skinny cuban girl with longish curly hair. her name i must have forgotten. this one was horrible and i had to break off the session. i asked her if she kisses, and she said yes, but then reneged in the room. then she broke out a dildo, probably to do the upsell (meaning more services and money). i asked her instead to inspire me by opening her legs an showing me her pussy, and she refused. that's when i told her the deal was off an i walked out. she made a stink at the front desk, and i had to explain to the mutti-san and vati-san that she would not perform. they insisted i should pay her 20e, but i held steady, even after vati-san threatened that i had to leave. the two of them eventually relented, and i stayed.
at this point i was a bit pissed, so i decided to go for a sure thing with jenna again. unfortunately, i was also perturbed by the whole cuban missile crisis, and jenna had to work pretty hard until i came in her mouth 60min and 150e later. not her fault, she took things slow and hinted about "the *****" that i had tried earlier. the cim was beautiful, a real pornstar experience with cum dribbling out of her mouth in a nice fashion.
speaking of pornstar, jenna indicated that she made films under the name jenna kyle, but i must have the wrong spelling. flodhest, you posted about jenna earlier, do you know how to find her?
in between the various above sessions, i hung out, showered, steamed, drank, ate, slept and relaxed at the kino. i got quite a bit of very good teasing action from various girls in the kino, mostly the chubby and carribean or latino ones, and some russian ones. but i was either too pooped or had my heart set on someone else during these intermissions. several other guys got a bj in there and then trotted off to the rooms somewhere in the middle.
one of them even fucked a girl doggy while i watched. along the way, i met a dominican girl that gave me a fairly lackluster fuck at my previous visit. she was surprised i remembered her name, and equally surprised when i never picked her again. that will be my little secret.
there was also 2-3 other asian girls (thai?) in the room, but after the clinical experience with tan i think they sensed that i was avoiding them, perhaps unfairly, but nevertheless.
all in all a good trip, with a bump along the way. jenna is definitely recommended. it would be great if someone could find her online for me.
schuss.
At the Palace, I think I'll make a rule to stick with the eastern europeans and skip the asians and the carrribean island ones.
Hate to say but I think it's true. I've been to Costa Rica and Brazil a bunch and think a lot of the girls that live there. But the Latin girls in the FKKs are overall pretty weak. You hear a lot in Rio about all the wonderful girls that have left Rio to work in the FKKs but I never meet any. I love the East Euro girls and have found that if they show a good attitude they are nice in the room. I have a feeling I know which Latin girl you were with and she was awful to me. For all the crap people give the Romanians I have had nothing but good luck with them in all the clubs I've visited(knock on wood).
Chicafan,
I had a great time with a dark-haired Romanian the previous time I went. Her new was Inna or something like that. Kristen from DR (Dominican) was a rather weak performance.
Hate to say but I think it's true. I've been to Costa Rica and Brazil a bunch and think a lot of the girls that live there. But the Latin girls in the FKKs are overall pretty weak. You hear a lot in Rio about all the wonderful girls that have left Rio to work in the FKKs but I never meet any. I love the East Euro girls and have found that if they show a good attitude they are nice in the room. I have a feeling I know which Latin girl you were with and she was awful to me. For all the crap people give the Romanians I have had nothing but good luck with them in all the clubs I've visited(knock on wood).
Jenna...
Check out clubsandy and pixandvideo (dot com, of course) as Jane Kyle
She fucked me cowgirl (with a rubber, of course) and made me come in expert fashion. I gave her 50e and 10e tip for her excellent performance.
... to comment on tipping.
Enough has been said about this numerous times here and I'm just not up to commenting on it right now.
She made a stink at the front desk, and I had to explain to the mutti-san and vati-san that she would not perform. They insisted I should pay her 20e, but I held steady, even after vati-san threatened that I had to leave. The two of them eventually relented, and I stayed.Sorry to hear about your bad experience, unfortunately you are not the only one to be ripped off at Palace. Considering the lousy service you got it’s easy to understand your need to tip a great girl like Jenna. You must have felt it's crazy the rip-off girls should have just as much money as Jenna so I'm not going to bash you.
If Palace is the only FKK club you have visited I would strongly suggest you to visit a few other clubs so you have something to compare with.
Speaking of pornstar, Jenna indicated that she made films under the name Jenna Kyle, but I must have the wrong spelling. Flodhest, you posted about Jenna earlier, do you know how to find her?Fkk Lover already answered this question but I can confirm that Jane Kyle is the name Jenna told me as well.
I would suggest you to use Google to find results for Jane Kyle, you will find more pictures.
Ekliges Lauern
01-03-08, 14:54
Tan was from Shanghai, about 30, medium hair, nice lithe build, no body markings, stays away from the other girls and advertises her wares by kneeling on the couch underneath the pole-dancing platform and displaying her bald ****, doggy style.
I had the misfortune of sessioning with Tan as well. I was there last Saturday early evening. Had two very satisfactory session, the first with the Asian looking girl from Kazakstan (sorry, forgot her name) and a Kino BJ from blond Eva from Greece. The lady from Kazakstan was quite pleasant, I'll add her to my repeat list. Eva knows I am a Standkunden of her friend Anna and apparently they had discussed why I repeat with her. Anna is not as attractive as Eva, but I repeat with her for her BJ technique. Anyway, the last couple of sessions, Anna had been slipping so she was off my repeat list. Anyway, Anna must have shared here technique secret as Eva did her best impression of Anna's slow, soft BJ technique. Very nice.
Usually for session number three I stick with a proven lady as some skill and patients is required to acheive the desired result. Koko from China was there and I should have gone with her, as she is a proven winner. Anyway, little Radler insisted on exploring new territory and chose Tan. Mistake. From the get go, she was upselling to a longer session. Drug out foreplay as long as possible before commencing lackluster tissue BJ. Fucking was, shall we say, unispired. I ended up extending to an hour as I had some hope of finishing, but in the end I gave up at the hour mark as I found her attitude annoying. From taking to her, it sounded like she was only going to be around a week or so, which would explain the total lack of interest in customer services.
I do blame myself on this one as I ignored my radar and as I said, am sure I would have had a quite satisfactory session with Koko.
Oh well.
Harry Dude
01-03-08, 21:00
That would be Dinara, from Kazakhstan.
I was there last Saturday early evening. Had two very satisfactory session, the first with the Asian looking girl from Kazakstan (sorry, forgot her name)
Ekliges Lauern
01-03-08, 21:35
That would be Dinara, from Kazakhstan.
Ah, yes. Thank you for refreshing my memory. As Borat would say, "Verrry niccce!!!"
I gave her 50e and 10e tip for her excellent performance.Dont't tip please! There' no need as – so far – 50/100 Euro is widely accepted. Keep the price structure (and expectations) stable for everyone.
If you're happy with a girl, go for a longer session (1 hour or more), repeat with her or make annother girl happy with your money.
Regards,
Globus
Ekliges Lauern
01-04-08, 14:16
If you're happy with a girl, go for a longer session (1 hour or more), repeat with her or make annother girl happy with your money.
I go with the repeat strategy. The other girls tend to notice if you repeat with one or more girls and it tends to put them on their best behavior as most want repeat customers too.
Dave Jamsis
01-04-08, 16:31
Dont't tip please! There' no need as – so far – 50/100 Euro is widely accepted. Keep the price structure (and expectations) stable for everyone.
If you're happy with a girl, go for a longer session (1 hour or more), repeat with her or make annother girl happy with your money.
Regards,
Globus
Yes please do NOT tip. They best way to show your appriciation with a girl is to book another session or extend the current session.
Hi guys,
I am planning on visiting Frankfurt in February and have been reading all your posts with interest.
I'm an experienced traveller around Europe but have only ever been to one FFK club in the past, the Artimis in Berlin, and am keen to repeat the excellent experience I had.
I have one question to ask about the Palace, appologies as it is a bit of a wet question but, is the Palace similar to Artimis where you wear a robe or are you just given a towel to wear ?
Many thanks in advance
Chris Pop
I have one question to ask about the Palace, appologies as it is a bit of a wet question but, is the Palace similar to Artimis where you wear a robe or are you just given a towel to wear ?You get a towel but if you ask for it they will give you a robe.
Dave Jamsis
01-06-08, 02:19
You get a towel but if you ask for it they will give you a robe.
I prefer the towel to robe. When you hang out in the kino (best place to 'sample' the goods) loosen the towel so it just covers you. When the girls parade in it is a given they will give you plenty of 'under the towel action' just remember to politely say 'no' if you do not want to session with them.
When the girls parade in it is a given they will give you plenty of 'under the towel action' just remember to politely say 'no' if you do not want to session with them.
Actually that's a great strategy to at least get a "feel" for their technique. You never know what girl touches you and sets you off. Sometimes it's not just about looks but connection and aura.
Goodtime Man
01-06-08, 20:34
Spent a good part of this past Thursday at the Palace, second trip there in the past year. I had two very decent sessions with a blond named Gina, from the Czech republic. She said she was 20, absolutely killer body, face at least a 9.
Her services were quite enthusiastic and left me with zero to complain about either time. She was quite a busy gal that day, even though the Palace was rather slow overall.
I do not know how long she has worked there. Has anyone else encountered this young beauty?
She was quite a busy gal that day, even though the Palace was rather slow overall.
I do not know how long she has worked there. Has anyone else encountered this young beauty?
You sure is was not Lina? A very pretty sex kitten and speaks good English.
How many girls were there? I noticed it was real slow on Sunday 12/15 when I was there but I figured it was from being a Sunday just before Xmas. I would certainly hope it picks up as I plan to be there on a Saturday or Sunday night soon.
Goodtime Man
01-07-08, 21:02
You sure is was not Lina? A very pretty sex kitten and speaks good English.
How many girls were there? I noticed it was real slow on Sunday 12/15 when I was there but I figured it was from being a Sunday just before Xmas. I would certainly hope it picks up as I plan to be there on a Saturday or Sunday night soon.Is Lina a 20 year old Czech blond? I could have heard her name wrong! The girl I am speaking about was drop-dead gorgeous, a kind of girl next door adorable.
I have a question. I love the FKK concept (have been there a few times). Apart from meeting girls myself I also a a bit of a voyeur and like to also watch others. What FKK club is the best for this reason. Is it the VIP room at Palace? How is the action in the kinos in the different clubs?
Thankful for answers and recommendations.
Best regards,
Gbg25
Ekliges Lauern
01-09-08, 20:08
I have a question. I love the FKK concept (have been there a few times). Apart from meeting girls myself I also a a bit of a voyeur and like to also watch others. What FKK club is the best for this reason. Is it the VIP room at Palace? How is the action in the kinos in the different clubs?
Kino BJs and Kino sex seemed to me to be more prevalent at Oase than Palace. I find Palace to be a more comfortable setup for this (lounging tiers vs. Sofas). GoldenTime has a fair amount of Kino sex as well, I just haven't had good luck with the ladies working the Kino there.
I suspect if you are a voyeur, you might be happier at a Party Treff.
Ekliges Lauern
01-09-08, 20:35
Is Lina a 20 year old Czech blond? I could have heard her name wrong! The girl I am speaking about was drop-dead gorgeous, a kind of girl next door adorable.
Lina (or Lena) is drop-dead gorgeous. I'm pretty sure she is closer to 25 than 20. That said, she has seriously mixed reviews.
Dave Jamsis
01-10-08, 15:20
Lina (or Lena) is drop-dead gorgeous. I'm pretty sure she is closer to 25 than 20. That said, she has seriously mixed reviews.
Question I asked from previous post that never went answered....
Is Lina the same as 'Angelina", the 25 yr old sex kitten blonde that is Czech, aloughh is from Greece? She speaks the best english of all women in Palace, and when she gives a BJ it is feels like she was born with no teeth.
Apart from meeting girls myself I also a a bit of a voyeur and like to also watch others. What FKK club is the best for this reason. Is
Best FKK with public action is Bern's. The kino in Oase and Goldentime have also frequent public action. Else try the partytreff, all action is public.
Is Lina the same as 'Angelina", the 25 yr old sex kitten blonde that is Czech, aloughh is from Greece? She speaks the best english of all women in Palace, and when she gives a BJ it is feels like she was born with no teeth.
While that sounds like Lina I have never heard any claim she is Greek. I believe I remember her speaking Czech with one of her friends. She's pretty naturally blond also which is very rare for Greeks, I would think.
Ekliges Lauern
01-10-08, 16:36
Is Lina the same as 'Angelina", the 25 yr old sex kitten blonde that is Czech, aloughh is from Greece? She speaks the best english of all women in Palace, and when she gives a BJ it is feels like she was born with no teeth.
25 is about right. Never spoken English with her so I could not comment. Virtually no conversation outside the room, other than the warm up period. Basically, if you are not going to have a session with you, she just turns her back abruptly and moves on. Inside the room is another matter as I actually found her quite nice. And yes, both she and Linda seem to have the no teeth BJ technique down cold. Now if I can just coax a Kino BJ out of her. Seems I remember earlier in her career she was open to it.
I have a question. I love the FKK concept (have been there a few times). Apart from meeting girls myself I also a a bit of a voyeur and like to also watch others. What FKK club is the best for this reason. Is it the VIP room at Palace? How is the action in the kinos in the different clubs?
Thankful for answers and recommendations.
Best regards,
Gbg25For voyeurisnme: go to bernds club, near Bonn, Germany.
A small club, 15 ladies naked who start in public doing bbbj.
Have a look at bernds-saunaclub.de
Spent some good today at the Palace, my last trip there was a year a year. I had 3 very good sessions with a dark long hair named Sunny, from Germany . Nice BBBJ, DFK. She was around 25, killer body, face at a 9. She lives in Spain and only here for 10 - 12 days at the time.
Going to have some fun tomorow with her, before I am leaving for some fun in Dubai
Jonathan1301
01-12-08, 04:01
Arrived a little before noon, took a shower grab something to eat and went to the bar. A few girls approached me but all of them were 5 or 6 at best. Not many ppl anyways, the place was dead as it was early.
I hooked up within the first 35min with a Russian girl around 30 years old, at that time I gave her a 7.5 but now its definitely a 6.5 :) I really liked her attitude thought and we had sex in the theater --no one was there-- which was awesome, I forgot her name but her BBBJ was pretty good, she paid attention on my balls and that’s something I really enjoyed.
After her -- which I consider a Good Fuck -- I took my time trying to figure out what’s the best way to spent my money. I went to the sauna, Jacuzzi, had some food and finally after about an hour and a half some top model quality girls had arrived YAY!
I was cautious to try any of these girls since those can be hit or miss --or that's what I got from this forum, by the way that was my first time ever in a place like this-- I started talking with Camille a black girl from Dominican republic, she is an 8 in my book, but a 7 or a 9 in others -- I like big meaty lips, curly brown hair and big tight ass that only a black women have, and she had it all plus some huge DD fake boobs.
I got her right she was a b1tch! I told her; 50euro is all I have she seemed ok with that, but once in the room and after a quick bbbj she wanted me to cum, just like I expected! Normally that would be a turn off to most guys even to me, but I felt like fucking her hard with hate and her behavior gave me the motivation I wanted, she started complaining (again) when I was pulling her hair but it was too late I was coming happily.
I went back to my hotel took a city tour and I came back just on time for the 6pm buffet.
A girl I had seen before was Magdalena a polish girl --a 10 in my book, made out of my dreams tall, blond, tanned, green eyes, hot PERFECT body, smooth skin,…. I saw her coming with a client and that guy seemed happy, so I gave her a try. Before we got into the room I told her that I want the basic and some kissing (she said light kissing is ok), once in the room she started up selling, and once inside her after like 7min she asked me to cum, oh well…
After that I took another 1 ½ hour break browsing around and I spotted 3 perfect 10 girls, apart from Magdalena, I new I had to be careful! So I took my time and observed if they get any happy clients. I politely said no to many girls, but when she talked to me (one of the tens I was talking above), we hit it right away --I forgot her name (Jessica? maybe but I am not sure -- she has a big tattoo on her belly the name of her bf and another tattoo with the letters J M on her right wrist)-- we got into the room and start kissing like two ppl madly in love we kissed lightly, we kissed passionately, we kissed for about 10min and it was awesome, then we moved into 69, doggy style, 69 again (I loved eating her pussy), missionary, I came while looking into her eyes and i almost fell in love lol, oh by the way she is 21 German, about 5 7, brunette, cute face, sexy body, top model material, by the way if you are familiar with italian comics she looks like this girl of guido Valentina only thinner and sexier!!!! but face is really same.
I didn’t want to have any more sex, I felt that this last GFE was hard to top, THINK AGAIN!
I had 125$ left and I was waiting two things one the 10pm buffet and two to get an hour massage, politely I denied all the girls that approached me. Until I got horny again, and i was thinking to spent my last money with this girl --she looked Brazilian to me-- that had the best ass of all of them and she was BUSY all day long, I got her attention by smiling at her and she smiled back at me but she was with some else --like that was a surprise-- I decided to wait for her.
While I was sitting on a couch about 15 feet away from the room she was in, Janna (or Yanna, or Gianna) approaches me, Janna is Russian 28, blond, spinner, the Gothic type with piercings all over her body, we started talking and she got me excited, and I asked her; what’s on the menu? She replied you can kiss everywhere, touch everywhere, no fingers, you cum on me on my face, -- that last one did it for me-- I told her that I have had 4 other girls so it may take me a while to cum and she was ok with that, in the room we fucked, in all possible positions, the bbbj was awesome and I ate her pussy, but soon I had her laying down on the bed and me on top of her fucking her mouth with my dick, Janna was looking at me straight in the eyes, and couldn't breath properly I stopped and asked her if she is ok, and she said she is really enjoying it, I grabbed her head and continued to fuck her mouth, and I came inside her mouth and all over her face! What a load she could hardly believe that that was my fifth time that day.
Total damage 375 euros 4x50 + 100 for the last girl + 75 for the entry.
i am a little over 30 years and with my last gf I couldn't go twice in a row, but one thing is your gf and another being in palace.
A life changing experience!
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Thanks for the report, Jonathan1301.
While I was sitting on a couch about 15 feet away from the room she was in, Janna (or Yanna, or Gianna) approaches me, Janna is Russian 28, blond, spinnerThat must be Jenna. She has done porn as well so you have the possibility to obtain some pictures of her. :) Search this thread for Jenna.
Jonathan1301
01-12-08, 20:48
Thanks for the report, Jonathan1301.That must be Jenna. She has done porn as well so you have the possibility to obtain some pictures of her. :) Search this thread for Jenna.I found some photos of Jena Kyle at pixandvideo, but its not her, I mean my memory sucks anyway but I don't think its her.
Thanks anyway.
Maybe this is a stupid question, but what do you do with your money if you're wearing just a towel. And to this point, how do the lockers work? Is there a key? What do you do with that?
Jonathan1301
01-13-08, 02:54
Maybe this is a stupid question, but what do you do with your money if you're wearing just a towel. And to this point, how do the lockers work? Is there a key? What do you do with that?You get a key that opens two lockers one for your clothes --inside there is a safe-- and a smaller one that is outside near the entrance. You carry the key with you, it fits your wrist pretty much like a hand watch does.
Maybe this is a stupid question, but what do you do with your money if you're wearing just a towel. And to this point, how do the lockers work? Is there a key? What do you do with that?
There are lockers.
There are lockers.
Yes, there are lockers for your things. They give you a key you buckle to your wrist that opens your main locker and also a small valuables locker outside by the entrance desk. There is also a small electronic safe in your main locker for your valuables- you choose the combination. The electronic safes were installed so that if someone gets your wrist key they can only get into your locker but not to your valuables. It's your choice which to use.
Member #1071
01-14-08, 11:40
Visited the Palace Saturday night.
It seems the place had undergone a face lift since I last visited a year ago.
The atmospher is relaxed, at around 11pm the F/M ratio was in balance.
Plenty of 7-8's, quite a few 10's, and very few 3-5's.
Went with 3 girls:
Lena from Czech:
Looks:8, Performance: 7, anything goes for extra money
Pamela from Panama: the best ass in the club. Looks:8 Performance: 6
Thai GEM (Forgot her name) True GFE experience, looks 7 performance: 9
I Love this place!
Hessen Bub
01-15-08, 10:48
Thai GEM (Forgot her name)
Bee? Tan?
HB
Member #1071
01-15-08, 14:06
Bee? Tan?
HB
Can't recall the name. There were only one or two Thai girls when I was there.
She is very friendly and gives a true GFE .
West By Sun
01-15-08, 20:52
Lina is not the same as Angelina, they are both of two from C republic.
Lina's natural hair colour is dark brown, now she is breeched blond.
Felipe2006
01-15-08, 23:25
Bee? Tan? HB Bee is in Thailand until mid-February. At least that's the last information that I have.
Maybe she got bored at home and came back early, LOL
But seriously, must've been some other representative from the land of smiles that M#1071 met.
Many of the Latinas are also in their home countries. In February they will all be back and so will I.
Felipe
Love Palace
01-15-08, 23:43
Can't recall the name. There were only one or two Thai girls when I was there.
She is very friendly and gives a true GFE .If it was Bee/Bea you would remeber it? Whole back is tatoo! And a very nice girl .GFE. BBJJ but no CIM.
Hessen Bub
01-16-08, 17:29
Lina is not the same as Angelina, they are both of two from C republic.
Lina's natural hair colour is dark brown, now she is breeched blond.
That's true. Met Angelina this week. She smaller than Lina, bigger tits and the face not as beautiful as Linas. But good service.
HB
Had a day trip to Palace from about noon till 6PM. I do this often on my way through Frankfurt and then take an extra day or two on the way home for serious partying. I usually enjoy Palace during the day. The selection is smaller but low stress and haven't experienced much selling.
This was BAD. First they have a glassed off smoking section. It is as bad as USA!!! And, there were only 3 girls until late afternoon. YIKES!!!
Eva - blond plump polish girl. Nothing to write home about and that was the best of the crew.
Anita was an adorable little Hungarian girl that was quite good.
Tan is a Vietnamese/Chinese/German who is the worst of all three cultures. Upsell, clock watching, CBJ unless you pay more.... so what could I do? turn her over and enjoy the show. Did I say she was a tiny spinner?
Boy I wish there was some competition close to FRA to make Palace get their act together. I used to enjoy my days there..... oh well...
Hessen Bub
01-17-08, 08:03
This was BAD. First they have a glassed off smoking section.
Great, isn't it!!!! :-)
Boy I wish there was some competition close to FRA to make Palace get their act together. I used to enjoy my days there..... oh well...
There's good and bad days at all the clubs. It is still January and holiday season for a lot of girls. I was at Palace on Tuesday from around 1600 to 2400 and it was slow but OK. Lots of regulars missing, but line-up was OK: Lina, Chris, Olympia, Eva, Ramona, Dilara, Sarah, Olga, Irina, Angelina, Angelique, Lisa, Honey, Louisa, Patricia, Bine, Melissa, Ainoha (with enhanced tits), Adriana, Elisa, Roxana, Saskia etc.
HB
Boy I wish there was some competition close to FRA to make Palace get their act together. I used to enjoy my days there..... oh well...
There is lots of competition in Frankfurt. The RLD, of course, and many smaller cubs. There is also a club, which is never discussed here: Sudfass. It has been around for a long time, since 1971. (It was also the first club I ever went to, BTW). Its website is much better now, but still sucks: http://www.dassudfass.de . They have a lower entrance fee, but then you have to buy your drinks. And the prices start at 5 euro for a beer, Red Bull, juice, or soft drink. A bottle of Dom Perignon is 260.
True FKKs in the same model that Palace uses: Of course, Oase in BHH is also close to Frankfurt, as is Atlantik in Hanau.
But the truth is that Palace has a great location in such close vicinity to the Messe. And this guarantees a regular inflow of new customers with money to burn. So the girls and management at Palace have to try much less hard to provide good service, which would retain them their regular repeat customers.
Thanks Euro and Hessen Bub,
I have tried a number of the other clubs including a wierd partytreff near the airport. Oase is a staple for me when I have a decent layover. I have been to Palace probably 15+ times and have seen ups and downs but this is the first time that it was pitiful.
I am assuming/hoping that many girls haven't made it back from visiting home over New Years and that daytime Palace will return to being my short layover home away from home.
Hey, for what it's worth: I visited Palace two nights ago on Thurs. I found the line-up to be quite good actually, not pitifull at all! In fact, in terms of sheer numbers of 8s and 9s, it out did Oase's Weds night line-up easily. I was impressed with Palace and found there to be a huge number of doable girls, and that is after eliminating the various shark-like acts, like Czech Lina and the like from the list. I also noticed quite a few girls I had never seen before, mixed in with the huge cadre of regulars that one meets here all the time (e.g. see list below provided by Hessen Bub).
I have always felt Palace gets exaggerated bad press, simply because many guys do not know how to distinguish good providers from processors. I would not hesitate to revisit Palace. It remains one of my favourite mongering haunts. In fact, I may well revisit again today.
Btw: I was at World last night and was impressed by what I saw and fucked there as well...
Ortos
I have always felt Palace gets exaggerated bad press, simply because many guys do not know how to distinguish good providers from processors. I would not hesitate to revisit Palace. It remains one of my favourite mongering haunts. In fact, I may well revisit again today.
So I have a friend visiting Frankfurt for two nights before heading North. I advised him to go to Palace his first night and have a car reserved for his second day in case he does not want to return to Palace he can then drive to Oase. My thinking is that he might find more girls than he could possibly do in two days at Palace and wouldn't need the car. Instead he has decided to rent the car for both nights and go to Oase his first night. What can you do. He'll have fun either way. I return to Palace mid February and will be there on a Saturday night. I hope to catch it on a night like you had.
Dan Danger
01-23-08, 05:36
So I had a layover in Frankfurt and decided to spend some time at the Palace. There were a fair number of girls and lots of punters. There were a few new faces since my last visit (mid November) and I ended up with a couple of them (the girls, obviously).
THE GIRLS.
1. Andrea. Colombian, very short but very nicely built. We started talking with no big push for a sale on her side which was nice and made me want to spend some time with her. In the room you could tell that she liked to put on a show and was very good at it, nice DFK and a lot of fun. I decided to stay for an hour and we also chatted for a bit as she also gave me a massage (and it was pretty good). She said she studies massage in Barcelona and likes to travel and jokingly I said, give me your email and if I plan a vacation to Barca we'll go somewhere together. To which she said, sounds good and gave me an email address. FYI, she says she's only in Frankfurt for another week or so.
2. Amy. Brazilian, straight dyed blonde hair nice figure and non-pushy. Anyway, after a chat we ended up out back where the session was good, she seemed to really like the DATY and ended up asking me to keep doing her longer since she said she was enjoying it. Maybe an act, but a nice one. Amy said she lives in London and would only be in FRA temporarily and then asked me if I ever visit there. As a test I said that sometimes I do and if she gives me her email I'll look her up, she immediately wrote it down as well.
THE QUESTION(s)
Is it a common thing for girls to give out their emails? I know these are throwaway hotmail accounts but still they could just say no. Any of you have thoughts on this?
Has anyone followed up? It's not like I'd plan specially to visit a place for them, but given the choice of a stopover it might be an option to spend time with someone where the chemistry was nice.
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Hi Dan Danger:
Regarding your question about seeing girls outside the FKK - I've had very good success communicating with and seeing several ladies from both Oase and Palace. One of them I see quite regularly and she has travelled with me a few times around Europe. I tend to be fairly choosey and usually will spend an hour or two in the room with a lady as I'm not really into the "slam bam thank you maam" kind of sex so I think that helps to establish a relationship. It generally will cost me 500 to 700 euro a day - several have wanted 1200/day but that'smore than I'm willing to pay.
Harry Dude
01-23-08, 21:40
1. Andrea. Colombian, very short but very nicely built. We started talking with no big push for a sale on her side which was nice and made me want to spend some time with her. In the room you could tell that she liked to put on a show and was very good at it, nice DFK and a lot of fun. I decided to stay for an hour and we also chatted for a bit as she also gave me a massage (and it was pretty good).
Oh yes, Andrea. We had excellent kino sex a few weeks back. Very enthusiastic. I rarely have kino-sex at Palace, for some reason I much prefer the kino at Oase. Dunno why.
Pamela from Panama: the best ass in the club. Looks:8 Performance: 6
Is this the chick that sometimes wears a sort of long sleeved mesh top? Couple of tattoos? Implants? A couple of tasteful piercings? Agree on the ass - excellent. Too bad the service isn't as good.
Member #3421
01-23-08, 23:14
Hi Dan Danger:
Regarding your question about seeing girls outside the FKK - I've had very good success communicating with and seeing several ladies from both Oase and Palace. One of them I see quite regularly and she has travelled with me a few times around Europe. I tend to be fairly choosey and usually will spend an hour or two in the room with a lady as I'm not really into the "slam bam thank you maam" kind of sex so I think that helps to establish a relationship. It generally will cost me 500 to 700 euro a day - several have wanted 1200/day but that'smore than I'm willing to pay.
Thanks for this response, JonTom. I asked a similar question recently but it went unnoticed (my fault, the post was too long). If I find the right chemistry I'll try to boach the topic on my trip; spending a day with one girl would be just fine for a change of pace. Seems like much better value (and a known quality) than escorts (where the pricing seems out of whack compared to the FKK scene).
- OBG
Had the pleasure of visiting Palace again while in Frankfurt on an overnight stopover. There was a good selection, although after consideration I believe I prefer to see the girls naked, instead of wearing bikinis (which I believe occurs on Wednesdays).
This time I went via S- and U-bahn instead of taxi, and had no trouble finding it, thanks to the great directions in this forum (which can be found by searching "directions".
Spent 4 hours there and sampled 3 girls. The first was Andrea from Colombia, already well reviewed. Lovely tits and a great CIM to start. I had lots of attention from the girls, but it seemed that the friendliest and best teasing were from the older and less attractive girls. Not unexpected. But, I was in the mood to try some eye candy. There were 3 girls that I rated 9 or 10 - one was constantly in the rooms so i didn't have a chance to meet her, the other was Lina from Czech Republic, with mixed reviews (but what a body!) and was not getting any business so i figured she wasn't worth it.
The third was a blond girl from Cologne, with a killer body in my type - slim, full natural tits, and not too tall. So, off we went after a brief chat. My mistake - the first disappointing session I've had at Palace. Not that it was terrible, it was just that she was mechanical and only did a CBJ. I ended up bailing without finishing. And I can't remember her name...must have repressed it. Oh well, that's the risk you take with eye candy!
I had to make up for that, and shortly after had my third session with Yulia, the blond from Ukraine. An excellent session, wonderful BBBJ and service, and finished again with CIM. A great way to erase the previous mediocre session!
Total damage was 100x2 CIM, 1x50, + 75 admission = 325 Euros. Well worth it for another great and relaxing time at the Palace.
Enjoy boys.
R.
Member #1071
01-24-08, 12:55
is this the chick that sometimes wears a sort of long sleeved mesh top? couple of tattoos? implants? a couple of tasteful piercings? agree on the ass - excellent. too bad the service isn't as good.
the lady you are referring to is not the one i was talking about (probably her name is not pamela). i have noticed this girls wearing the mesh thing and considered pulling her. that was before i saw pamela. she usually sits at the bar and hangs out with her hispanic peers. she cannot be unnoticed...
i will be visiting palace on the evening of 31 jan and pamela is on the menue....
the lady you are referring to is not the one i was talking about (probably her name is not pamela). i have noticed this girls wearing the mesh thing and considered pulling her. that was before i saw pamela. she usually sits at the bar and hangs out with her hispanic peers. she cannot be unnoticed...
i will be visiting palace on the evening of 31 jan and pamela is on the menue....
don't waste your time. harry was not kidding when he said the service is not good. she was awful, almost as if she was trying to ruin it for me. from what i recall she barely kissed, gave bbbj for maybe a couple minutes then rushed the sex. she knew i was frustrated but she kept pushing for a quick end. when i was about to cum she squeezed me out with her legs so i couldn't even cum inside her with a condom. frankly, i couldn't imagine going with her again. what's "funny" is that she still looks at me knowing we've been together and has that "i wonder why he doesn't speak to me look". she's just a depressing session.
West By Sun
01-24-08, 20:45
The third was a blond girl from Cologne, with a killer body in my type - slim, full natural tits, and not too tall. So, off we went after a brief chat. My mistake - the first disappointing session I've had at Palace. Not that it was terrible, it was just that she was mechanical and only did a CBJ. I ended up bailing without finishing. And I can't remember her name...must have repressed it. Oh well, that's the risk you take with eye candy!Maybe your third girl is Maya. She is a Russian who live in Cologne.
Hi,
Learn from the previous post that party treff and Bernds are as good to enjoy as palace.
Please inform if it is far from Flemings hotel next to Palace.
I want to check also these place as well as the Wounderful PALACE
Harry Dude
01-24-08, 22:54
Chicafan is spot on. The one time I was with her I made a bad decision - I was in the kino, fairly horny, and this gorgeous goddess approached me. She almost immediately asked to go to a zimmer, and in the room she asked whether I wanted standard for EUR50 or with kissing for EUR100 (at least that's what I think she said). I knew it was downhill from there. I was out of there in less than 10 minutes, probably closer to five minutes, my shortest session ever. Massive disappointment.
Don't waste your time. Harry was not kidding when he said the service is not good. She was awful, almost as if she was trying to ruin it for me. From what I recall she barely kissed, gave BBBJ for maybe a couple minutes then rushed the sex. She knew I was frustrated but she kept pushing for a quick end. When I was about to cum she squeezed me out with her legs so I couldn't even cum inside her with a condom. Frankly, I couldn't imagine going with her again.
Member #1071
01-25-08, 08:34
Don't waste your time. Harry was not kidding when he said the service is not good. She was awful, almost as if she was trying to ruin it for me. From what I recall she barely kissed, gave BBBJ for maybe a couple minutes then rushed the sex. She knew I was frustrated but she kept pushing for a quick end. When I was about to cum she squeezed me out with her legs so I couldn't even cum inside her with a condom. Frankly, I couldn't imagine going with her again. What's "funny" is that she still looks at me knowing we've been together and has that "I wonder why he doesn't speak to me look". She's just a depressing session.
Thank you mate for your advise.
I shall stick to the lady I was with. the Panama one. (I really forgot her name)
She has a killer ass, probably the best ass in the clube. Her services however are more or less mediocre.
Cheers
Maybe your third girl is Maya. She is a Russian who live in Cologne.
Yes, thanks for jogging my memory, WBS, it was Maya. How was your experience with her? Did I just catch her on a bad day, or is her service always suspect?
R.
West By Sun
01-25-08, 20:39
it was Maya. How was your experience with her? Did I just catch her on a bad day, or is her service always suspect?R.Don't mind, she is always as you know her.
My experience is the same as yours. Yes, kiss is important.
But I never pay extra only for that.
I will be visiting Frankfurt for work in February 28th and wonder if therer are any locals or others who would like to join me for a visit to Palace in the evening. It is always nice to have company!
I so, please mail me [Email address deleted by Admin]
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There was more ladies than men at this time. At first I made the mistake of picking an asian woman. At the Palace, I think I'll make a rule to stick with the eastern europeans and skip the asians and the carrribean island ones. More about this later.
Tan was from Shanghai, about 30, medium hair, nice lithe build, no body markings, stays away from the other girls and advertises her wares by kneeling on the couch underneath the pole-dancing platform and displaying her bald ****, doggy style. She turned me on and I went up and inquired about making a trip to the back. Off we went. She was rather a bust in bed. I asked for some sucking to warm me up, and she broke out her disinfectant kit and tissues. She had the demanor of a dental asistant. She could barely get my cock in her mouth without taking it out, inspecting for pre-come fluid and dabbing frantically at it with the tissue. Very clinical. I was however horny and determined to have a good time, so I got hard despite the bad BJ and enganged her in some straight misionary fucking with a rubber on. Tan did the old close-the-legs trick to keep me from having a good deep time. So I concentrated on ejaculating, mision finally acomplished after a few minutes of listing to annoying "komm now baby" from Tan. Afterwards she had the gall to ask me if it was good! I just shook my had and forked over the 50e. She even asked me later fir a repeat. You'd exepect someone in her business to have a clue about what constitites good sex, but alas. Her body was really the made-for-fucking kind, I just wish her brain was the same. Her **** looked real nice both from behind and spread out.
A few nights ago, I got slightly aroused by Tan, so I went into a room with her. Immediately inside the room, I realised what a bad session she would be. She started trying to upsell me towards an hour session, even before she had removed her shoes and shirt. I had a few words with her and told her that I would see how things went and then decide whether to extend or not, depending on the chemistry and performance, etc. She kept trying to upsell me, so even before the action started I just aborted the session by putting on my towel and walking out. She stared at me dumb-founded as I left the room, but I told her she was not worth my time or money with that attitude...
I see from your report that my instincts were correct...good thing I aborte early enough and so saved 50€!
Ortos
I just aborted the session by putting on my towel and walking out. She stared at me dumb-founded as I left the room, but I told her she was not worth my time or money with that attitude...And she was content with that? Please tell more about the aftermath. Did she yell? Did you have to talk to "management"? Will she trash you to her fellows?
Ekliges Lauern
01-28-08, 01:59
A few nights ago, I got slightly aroused by Tan, so I went into a room with her. Immediately inside the room, I realised what a bad session she would be. She started trying to upsell me towards an hour session, even before she had removed her shoes and shirt. I had a few words with her and told her that I would see how things went and then decide whether to extend or not, depending on the chemistry and performance, etc. She kept trying to upsell me, so even before the action started I just aborted the session by putting on my towel and walking out. She stared at me dumb-founded as I left the room, but I told her she was not worth my time or money with that attitude...
I see from your report that my instincts were correct...good thing I aborte early enough and so saved 50€!
Ortos
Wow, everyone is having a bad session with her. I had mine back at the end of December. Total upsell and bad service. Funny thing is, if she was halfway decent, she could have earned the FT bonus from me. Instead, she was so bad I just gave up after a while.
Glad it is not just me,
And she was content with that? Please tell more about the aftermath. Did she yell? Did you have to talk to "management"? Will she trash you to her fellows?
Was she alright about it? She had NO choice! I did not give her a choice, I just left, confident that there would be no "aftermath" because there was no action really; we just walked into a room and laid a towel or two on the bed and started to dis-robe. Then she displayed her "money-hungry" attitude, so I aborted. If she did not give me a BBBJ or engage in any extended DFK or other activity, then there is no problem to abort at that point.
In fact, Tan realised she ruined the session chemisty even before it started and she did even articulate something like: "Yes, better we don't start because you would not be happy at all..."
So end of story.
And Yes: There is a lesson to be learned here: Take your time to "taste" your girl (within the standard parameters of FKK pre-session flirting, i.e. no BBBJ) before you committ to a session. In this case, I was unable to conduct the normal pre-session chat/interview/flirt/carress thing, because it was last Thurs night, the height of a Messe event, and around 01.00 when the place was packed. So one had to make a move for the room right away. Still I was able to abort without any problems.
I think the fact that I was confident in knowing the rules and took the lead/initiative played to my advantage here, as should be the case, no?
Ortos
I think the fact that I was confident in knowing the rules and took the lead/initiative played to my advantage here, as should be the case, no?I think it also played to your advantage that the place was packed. Her time was better spent looking for new "victims" than a discussion.
When I'm in doubt I ask for some kissning before committing. Had I done that and been in your shoes, I guess I would have been screwed:-) You reckon you could have aborted, had you kissed?
I think it also played to your advantage that the place was packed. Her time was better spent looking for new "victims" than a discussion.
When I'm in doubt I ask for some kissning before committing. Had I done that and been in your shoes, I guess I would have been screwed:-) You reckon you could have aborted, had you kissed?
Actually this was getting on after 02.30 and the place was starting to go into it's "last call" mode, even starting to clear out. As I recall we were able to walk into a room almost immediately as it vacated as we approached the couches/waiting area. Btw: just because there has been some kissing does not mean the session is unabortable, esp. if it was the girl who took the DKF initiative and you just followed along. I've often been kissed/tounged by a girl and NOT gone into the room with her. Certain girls like to show that they will kiss by dfking quick during the initial minute or so of chit chat. They know this may increase their business in a house full of rivals competition...
Ortos
Palace is really hopping right now. Went on a Friday night and man there were several 8s, 9s in attendance. I had a hard descision deciding on who to fuck. Saw Valentina (Blonde, small tits, slim figure) and the Serbian crew from World there. She kept on giving me a smile like she wanted a session but I was going to avoid her at all costs. She gave me a terrible, hold the condom, get it over with session at World last time. How could she think I would forget that?
I had a mediocre session with Yulia from Ukraine. She has a rockin, silicone tit body. I enjoyed the session until the end when she wanted to get it over with and said I couldn't come so wanted to whack me off with oil at which point I said no thanks. Smiled at her later and she acted like she didn't know me.
Gina from Czech Republic, Great session. Awesome body, big tits, blue eyes.
Cowgirl, Mish, Doggie. Really aerobic workout fuck session. Pure sex.
There were 3 or 4 more I wanted to fuck but ran out of Euros. The ATM machine sucks at Palace. It only takes a special Deutsch bank card. So I just went away after 4 sessions. The line up was really good, maybe because Karneval week is starting.
Palace is really hopping right now. Went on a Friday night and man there were several 8s, 9s in attendance. I had a hard descision deciding on who to fuck. Saw Valentina (Blonde, small tits, slim figure) and the Serbian crew from World there.
There were 3 or 4 more I wanted to fuck but ran out of Euros. The ATM machine sucks at Palace. It only takes a special Deutsch bank card. So I just went away after 4 sessions. The line up was really good, maybe because Karneval week is starting.
The first part of your quote here confirms what I found last week (and always for that matter): that A) Palace has a huge line-up of 8s and 9s; and B) all clubs can have sharks and bad providers because they float between the different clubs. You will find Oase girls working Palace, World girls working Oase and Palace, and girls from all these Hessen clubs might be seen at Artemis in Berlin or GT in NRW and/or visa-versa, etc.
As for ATMs at Palace: Bear in mind that there is another (proper) ATM within easy walking distance of Palace: inside the ARAL tankstelle (petrol station) located around the corner.
Ortos
The first part of your quote here confirms what I found last week (and always for that matter): that A) Palace has a huge line-up of 8s and 9s; and B) all clubs can have sharks and bad providers because they float between the different clubs. You will find Oase girls working Palace, World girls working Oase and Palace, and girls from all these Hessen clubs might be seen at Artemis in Berlin or GT in NRW and/or visa-versa, etc.
As for ATMs at Palace: Bear in mind that there is another (proper) ATM within easy walking distance of Palace: inside the ARAL tankstelle (petrol station) located around the corner.
Ortos
Thanks for the advice on the ATM machine. I went back again Sat Day/Night. I found out Palace is almost empty during the day until around 4:30PM when the providers start showing up again. Had another good session with Gina, Gia disappointed me. She is a Polish girl who doesn't like to be nude. She used to work at PHG. I saw her Friday night and didn't session with her, but just talked and said that I would hook up with her on Saturday if she showed up. Well I saw her then she told me she only does 1 hour sessions which was a turn off so I didn't session with her. Why are girls so stupid? You try to treat them nice and they do shit like this. Had another mediocre session with Vanessa, hot body, black hair, nice firm B sized tits. Very good BBBJ, but was very short in her service and wanted it to end. Several other sessions with other providers were good.
Member #1071
02-04-08, 07:41
Was at the Palace Thursday, my second visit in two weeks.
At 11pm a 50/50 M/F ratio, many 8-9's.
Had Julie (Julia) from Thailand. GFE, unrushed experience. Looks 7 service 9.
Avoid Diana from Columbia: Asks for 1 hour session, I declined her offer and asked for a 30min. BBBJ rushed, missionary only if you can handle 100 push ups, you are not allowed to lie on her (and I am slim!!)
Lina from Czech. Professional service no GFE looks 9 service 6-7.
Hessen Bub
02-04-08, 09:39
I had a mediocre session with Yulia from Ukraine. She has a rockin, silicone tit body. I enjoyed the session until the end when she wanted to get it over with and said I couldn't come so wanted to whack me off with oil at which point I said no thanks. Smiled at her later and she acted like she didn't know me.
Blond, asian letter tattoo down the lowe spine? Then it is Julia from Romania, Ex-FKKW. Or is there another Julia?
IThe ATM machine sucks at Palace. It only takes a special Deutsch bank card. So I just went away after 4 sessions.
The ATM does not take any credit cards, that's true, but it does take all German EC-Cards/Maestro Cards. You'll pay 105 EUR for 100 EUR.
HB
Went to Palace over the first weekend of Feb (Fri and Sat). For somebody who used to go to Palace regularly between 2004 to 2007 the place is now a definite disappointment in terms of quality of service. Earlier picking up a new girl and getting bad service was an exception now 9 out of 10 times you will get bad service. In the past if you were done with a standard session in 20-25 minutes the girls would invariably tell u that some time is left and “we can talk or smoke for the remaining time”. The current standard in Palace is to up sell as soon as u enter the room and if you say no then expect a rushed job. Most girls now want a standard session to end in less than 20 mins and hour long session up in 40 mins.
My trip was saved by finding the old Turkish hand Dilara and one new find Sandra. The latter is a tall, slim and redhead german girl not very pretty but with the right amount of ‘girl next door charm’. Did not try to up sell at all. Started straight away with French kissing and light caressing. Followed by an excellent BBBJ. I then proceeded to DATY which I could tell that she enjoyed naturally followed by again some French kissing. At this stage I decide to extend the session to 1hour. Bit of playing around latter we switched to the act itself with Snadra getting on top of me. She was so vigorous that my rather mediocre erection (was the last girl of the trip) turned into probably the best erection I had. Multiple positions later I told her that it was difficult for me to cum given my activities over the past 48 hrs. Proceeded to a hand job which then I took over, asked if I wanted a facial or CIM (again it was clearly an extra service and no implied pressure that comes with a typical up sell). I elected for CIM and then her mouth and tongue worked on the penis head brilliantly while I jacked off. Come the moment everything goes in till she is sure I AM DRAINED. This was followed by a smoke and nice chit chat. Absolutely brilliant by any mongering standard.
Dilara as always was good, old hands should know her quality well.
Earlier I had tried one tall and dark german girl, brunette with a nice figure who generally keeps two pony tails. People do not touch her with a flag pole. As soon as we entered the room she informed me than standard session was a fuck and a suck with no kissing, licking or DATY. I refused to continue the session at which she tried to pull me to the bed and then insisted on payment. I went out paid her 50 and then took her to the management. I was told by the manager (a fat ugly and old woman) that she cannot do anything about this. Contrast this to 2 years back when I had complained about a woman who insisted on a CBJ and then got rude, I was immediate paid back my 50 EURs although I told them that I didn’t care and numerous later visits to Place never saw that woman again.
Besides I had a session with one Hungarian (I think her name was Korina), tall and dark haired with nice large tits. She up selled before we went to the room and I agreed to a 1 hr session hoping that this will relax her and I will have a decent time. She gave a decent BBBJ but was as boring as a fish so absolutely no chemistry developed with her leading to a pretty lackluster session. Out in 40 mins. She even did not react my DATY which at the risk of sounding arrogant I am pretty good at (proven by countless professional and non professional ladies- hey I had couple of women who helped me refine the technique).
Another encounter was with a rather tall Thai lady with long straight hair, nice tits and full large lips and mouth (sorry forget her name). A complete chatter box who started BBBJ and would then every 20stop to say something meaningless. Had booked her for an hour and I made sure that I finish in 20 mins, got out paid her 50 and said good riddance.
One encounter was with a new Turkish girl with the name Stella or Istella. Nice to talk to but she really did not know what she was doing in the room. Very bad BBBJ and could not really take any vigorous fucking, she said that she has started just 2-3 days ago and this is the first club she is working for, maybe she still needs to get over some inhibitions.
Oh yes, Palace has one redeeming feature the massage lady Elka (middle aged heavy set who works only Fri-Sun). An excellent masseuse and a very sweet lady, I would strongly recommend if somebody is looking for a relaxing massage in between sessions.
Have recently been to the Yin Yang club and would try to post a comparison with Palace shortly.
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Went to Palace over the first weekend of Feb (Fri and Sat). For somebody who used to go to Palace regularly between 2004 to 2007 the place is now a definite disappointment in terms of quality of service. Earlier picking up a new girl and getting bad service was an exception now 9 out of 10 times you will get bad service. In the past if you were done with a standard session in 20-25 minutes the girls would invariably tell u that some time is left and “we can talk or smoke for the remaining time”. The current standard in Palace is to up sell as soon as u enter the room and if you say no then expect a rushed job. Most girls now want a standard session to end in less than 20 mins and hour long session up in 40 mins.
My trip was saved by finding the old Turkish hand Dilara and one new find Sandra. The latter is a tall, slim and redhead german girl not very pretty but with the right amount of ‘girl next door charm’. Did not try to up sell at all. Started straight away with French kissing and light caressing. Followed by an excellent BBBJ. I then proceeded to DATY which I could tell that she enjoyed naturally followed by again some French kissing. At this stage I decide to extend the session to 1hour. Bit of playing around latter we switched to the act itself with Snadra getting on top of me. She was so vigorous that my rather mediocre erection (was the last girl of the trip) turned into probably the best erection I had. Multiple positions later I told her that it was difficult for me to cum given my activities over the past 48 hrs. Proceeded to a hand job which then I took over, asked if I wanted a facial or CIM (again it was clearly an extra service and no implied pressure that comes with a typical up sell). I elected for CIM and then her mouth and tongue worked on the penis head brilliantly while I jacked off. Come the moment everything goes in till she is sure I AM DRAINED. This was followed by a smoke and nice chit chat. Absolutely brilliant by any mongering standard.
Dilara as always was good, old hands should know her quality well.
Earlier I had tried one tall and dark german girl, brunette with a nice figure who generally keeps two pony tails. People do not touch her with a flag pole. As soon as we entered the room she informed me than standard session was a fuck and a suck with no kissing, licking or DATY. I refused to continue the session at which she tried to pull me to the bed and then insisted on payment. I went out paid her 50 and then took her to the management. I was told by the manager (a fat ugly and old woman) that she cannot do anything about this. Contrast this to 2 years back when I had complained about a woman who insisted on a CBJ and then got rude, I was immediate paid back my 50 EURs although I told them that I didn’t care and numerous later visits to Place never saw that woman again.
Besides I had a session with one Hungarian (I think her name was Korina), tall and dark haired with nice large tits. She up selled before we went to the room and I agreed to a 1 hr session hoping that this will relax her and I will have a decent time. She gave a decent BBBJ but was as boring as a fish so absolutely no chemistry developed with her leading to a pretty lackluster session. Out in 40 mins. She even did not react my DATY which at the risk of sounding arrogant I am pretty good at (proven by countless professional and non professional ladies- hey I had couple of women who helped me refine the technique).
Another encounter was with a rather tall Thai lady with long straight hair, nice tits and full large lips and mouth (sorry forget her name). A complete chatter box who started BBBJ and would then every 20stop to say something meaningless. Had booked her for an hour and I made sure that I finish in 20 mins, got out paid her 50 and said good riddance.
One encounter was with a new Turkish girl with the name Stella or Istella. Nice to talk to but she really did not know what she was doing in the room. Very bad BBBJ and could not really take any vigorous fucking, she said that she has started just 2-3 days ago and this is the first club she is working for, maybe she still needs to get over some inhibitions.
Oh yes, Palace has one redeeming feature the massage lady Elka (middle aged heavy set who works only Fri-Sun). An excellent masseuse and a very sweet lady, I would strongly recommend if somebody is looking for a relaxing massage in between sessions.
Have recently been to the Yin Yang club and would try to post a comparison with Palace shortly.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Went to Palace over the first weekend of Feb (Fri and Sat). For somebody who used to go to Palace regularly between 2004 to 2007 the place is now a definite disappointment in terms of quality of service. Earlier picking up a new girl and getting bad service was an exception now 9 out of 10 times you will get bad service. In the past if you were done with a standard session in 20-25 minutes the girls would invariably tell you that some time is left and "we can talk or smoke for the remaining time". The current standard in Palace is to up sell as soon as you enter the room and if you say no then expect a rushed job. Most girls now want a standard session to end in less than 20 mins and hour long session up in 40 mins.
My trip was saved by finding the old Turkish hand Dilara and one new find Sandra. The latter is a tall, slim and redhead german girl not very pretty but with the right amount of ‘girl next door charm’. Did not try to up sell at all. Started straight away with French kissing and light caressing. Followed by an excellent BBBJ. I then proceeded to DATY which I could tell that she enjoyed naturally followed by again some French kissing. At this stage I decide to extend the session to 1hour. Bit of playing around latter we switched to the act itself with Snadra getting on top of me. She was so vigorous that my rather mediocre erection (was the last girl of the trip) turned into probably the best erection I had. Multiple positions later I told her that it was difficult for me to cum given my activities over the past 48 hrs. Proceeded to a hand job which then I took over, asked if I wanted a facial or CIM (again it was clearly an extra service and no implied pressure that comes with a typical up sell). I elected for CIM and then her mouth and tongue worked on the penis head brilliantly while I jacked off.come the moment everything goes in till she is sure I AM DRAINED. This was followed by a smoke and nice chit chat. Absolutely brilliant by any mongering standard.
Dilara as always was good, old hands should know her quality well.
Earlier I had tried one tall and dark german girl, brunette with a nice figure who generally keeps two pony tails. People do not touch her with a flag pole. As soon as we entered the room she informed me than standard session was a fuck and a suck with no kissing, licking or DATY. I refused to continue the session at which she tried to pull me to the bed and then insisted on payment. I went out paid her 50 and then took her to the management. I was told by the manager (a fat ugly and old woman) that she cannot do anything about this. Contrast this to 2 years back when I had complained about a woman who insisted on a CBJ and then got rude, I was immediate paid back my 50 EURs although I told them that I didn’t care and numerous later visits to Place never saw that woman again.
Besides I had a session with one Hungarian (I think her name was Korina), tall and dark haired with nice large tits. She up selled before we went to the room and I agreed to a 1 hr session hoping that this will relax her and I will have a decent time. She gave a decent BBBJ but was as boring as a fish so absolutely no chemistry developed with her leading to a pretty lackluster session. Out in 40 mins. She even did not react my DATY which at the risk of sounding arrogant I am pretty good at (proven by countless professional and non professional ladies- hey I had couple of women who helped me refine the technique).
Another encounter was with a rather tall Thai lady with long straight hair, nice tits and full large lips and mouth (sorry forget her name). A complete chatter box who started BBBJ and would then every 20stop to say something meaningless. Had booked her for an hour and I made sure that I finish in 20 mins, got out paid her 50 and said good riddance.
One encounter was with a new Turkish girl with the name Stella or Istella. Nice to talk to but she really did not know what she was doing in the room. Very bad BBBJ and could not really take any vigorous fucking, she said that she has started just 2-3 days ago and this is the first club she is working for, maybe she still needs to get over some inhibitions.
Oh yes, Palace has one redeeming feature the massage lady Elka (middle aged heavy set who works only Fri-Sun). An excellent masseuse and a very sweet lady, I would strongly recommend if somebody is looking for a relaxing massage in between sessions.
Have recently been to the Yin Yang club and would try to post a comparison with Palace shortly.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Blond, asian letter tattoo down the lower spine? Then it is Julia from Romania, Ex-FKKW. Or is there another Julia?
HB
Yes, I think she did have Asian tattoo lettering down her spine, but I really remember her saying her name was Yulia and she was from Ukraine.
Earlier I had tried one tall and dark german girl, brunette with a nice figure who generally keeps two pony tails. People do not touch her with a flag pole. As soon as we entered the room she informed me than standard session was a fuck and a suck with no kissing, licking or DATY. I refused to continue the session at which she tried to pull me to the bed and then insisted on payment. I went out paid her 50 and then took her to the management. I was told by the manager (a fat ugly and old woman) that she cannot do anything about this. Contrast this to 2 years back when I had complained about a woman who insisted on a CBJ and then got rude, I was immediate paid back my 50 EURs although I told them that I didn’t care and numerous later visits to Place never saw that woman again.
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Hey, I was there also when you were. I think the girl above is Cassandra. Shoulder length dark black hair, tanned skin, thin. She also told me no kissing, DATY as soon as we entered the room. I did end up fucking her though and would not repeat.
I also agree about the increased potential for poor service at Palace. I noticed that when comparing Oase, World and Palace. Palace girls seem to have to explain exactly what they will do or not do up front. Whereas at Oase (Where most girls will DFK you no problem), and at World, sessions begin with no discussion with a mutual understanding of what is going to happen.
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Girl 3 was where I made the fatal mistake. I picked a tallish skinny Cuban girl with longish curly hair. Her name I must have forgotten. This one was horrible and I had to break off the session. I asked her if she kisses, and she said yes, but then reneged in the room. Then she broke out a dildo, probably to do the upsell (meaning more services and money). I asked her instead to inspire me by opening her legs an showing me her pussy, and she refused. That's when I told her the deal was off an I walked out. She made a stink at the front desk, and I had to explain to the mutti-san and vati-san that she would not perform. They insisted I should pay her 20e, but I held steady, even after vati-san threatened that I had to leave. The two of them eventually relented, and I stayed.
At this point I was a bit pissed, so I decided to go for a sure thing with Jenna again. Unfortunately, I was also perturbed by the whole Cuban missile crisis, and Jenna had to work pretty hard until I came in her mouth 60min and 150e later. Not her fault, she took things slow and hinted about "the *****" that I had tried earlier. The CIM was beautiful, a real pornstar experience with cum dribbling out of her mouth in a nice fashion.
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Hey Redvike,
That quote that you were perturbed by the whole Cuban missile crisis is A+ poetry. You are better than a "Fidel Castro and Robert Frost" mix of style and thought. Well put. Especially the comparison of a "dildo in her pussy" and her being Cuban, compared to what almost started WWIII.
Cheers!
Yes, I think she did have Asian tattoo lettering down her spine, but I really remember her saying her name was Yulia and she was from Ukraine.
Gotta be Julia. She is indeed Romanian and back in the day when she was at World, she was prettier than a morning sunrise. She may be pulling what is often typical of many Romanians and lying about her country of origin. They know their rep.
I only had one session with Julia. It was not that bad really, and she was so hot that I may have forgiven a transgression or two. I would probably never go with her again as she looks a little too hardcore now and does tend to rush a session. Too bad, really.
Cheers,
Dedalus
when i mentioned that i was going to frankfurt for the rld, several respondents to my request for information pointed me in the direction of the local fkks(the palace and oase).
i told them that, based on the hit or miss(usually miss) "room sessions" reported in this thread, that i was not interested as it was way to much money to pay for the potential for anger, aggravation and a confrontation. even the "management", and i use the title quite loosely, can not be trusted to do the right thing and regulate the hateful actions of the providers because of the fact that they are "independent contractors". big deal!!
unlike what i gather to be the "norm" for the, i believe, "monied" mongers who go to these places, i have extremely limited funds and can not afford to spend even 50€(or more) on bad sex, especially on top of when the house skims 65€-75€ to get in from you that is non-refundable!!
the comments about romanian women who lie about not being romanian because they know that they have a bad reputation as providers got me to thinking? why can't they just do the right thing an give a good "room session" as it does not cost them a penny more! then they will have a good reputation and everyone will be happy!
the above comments relate to my problem with the current attitude of many of today's p4p providers.
i have pointed out in previous posts on different threads that, in general, sex is a pleasurable act(for the two or more participants) that virtually all p4p providers are paid extremely well.
message to p4p providers.
sex is a natural, biological drive that requires no special education(except on-the-job, well-compensated training), financial investment(except for provocative clothing, assuming clothes are warn at all), time invested(except for that which is well-compensated)and is safe(using adequate protection).
a sex provider's "job" is to make sex a positive/pleasurable experience so please don't get us pissed-off by trying to cheat us, belittle us. lie to us and, in general, being "f___ing assholes" we did not pay for this. treat the people who you have sex with in personal, non-paying, relationships this way as since your "giving it away' to them and they can take your sh_t!!
as a group, i believe, we (your customers) are just a group of decent. regular guys who pay for sex for a multitude of reasons. unless there is a reason to create an adversarial confrontation(the customer is not clean, is intoxicated, does not act in an respectful/polite manner, etc.) just be nice as it is not costing you anything except your time.
what special effort would it take to give us a gfe experience(close you eyes and pretend you are with someone special)?
i enjoy, and i am sure most mongers do, not just sex, but a "sexual experience". we like the foreplay(with positive, but not over-done, fake-sounding "ohs" and "ahs") of exploring and being explored, smiles, laughter, and light conversation reinforcing what you as well as what we are feeling. it makes most of us feel good to give sexual pleasure as well as to receive it and we try to be nice in what is often for us, and awkward situation.
bottom line, we do not like to feel we are "paying for it" and it takes minimal effort on you part to make us feel this way.
if you want to hurt men by playing a meter-reading ilsa, she wolf of the ss, please go somewhere else.
we did not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you when you were a child as well as we did not force you into this line of work. you are an adult and you chose this line of work so, we pay you to make us feel better, not to make us feel worse!!
Warsteiner
02-07-08, 20:41
Yes, I think she did have Asian tattoo lettering down her spine, but I really remember her saying her name was Yulia and she was from Ukraine.
This is nothing to do with Palace but I found it amusing. I've seen numerous girls with asian tattoos and wonder how many of them have made the same mistake - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7139492.stm
This is nothing to do with Palace but I found it amusing. I've seen numerous girls with asian tattoos and wonder how many of them have made the same mistake - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7139492.stm
The best Asian lettering tattoo I have seen was on a very hot stripper. I asked her what it meant and she said Dangerous.
Nick The G
02-08-08, 01:46
sex is a natural, biological drive that requires no special educationtrue, if you want to remain on the level of animals!
a sex provider's "job" is to make sex a positive/pleasurable experience.....
..... bottom line, we do not like to feel we are "paying for it" dream on! prostitutes want to earn money as quick as possible, that's it. you bring your illusions along, they don't need to give you any!
with all your good advices for prostitutes, you should pray every night that in your next life you will become a romanian woman! get raped when you are a child by close relatives, get beaten by the first man in your life, have almost no education, have a little child and no money at all. but nevertheless, always be full of love and understanding for those vulnerable souls of the other gender, those guys who urgently need to fuck for money. take a heart, understand and feel their needs, help them!
be ready to take the first chance you get offered to walk into one of those halls of world-wide-fame, the german brothels and fkk-clubs.
and serve the men later the way you now always dream of that it would happen to you.
for sure as a woman you then will lead a life of permanent joy and ecstasy.
i think you are both right. it's murky water we swim in. i try to be nice, or decent, and expect the same. that's not unreasonable regardless of the girl's personal circumstances.
true, if you want to remain on the level of animals!
dream on! prostitutes want to earn money as quick as possible, that's it. you bring your illusions along, they don't need to give you any!
with all your good advices for prostitutes, you should pray every night that in your next life you will become a romanian woman! get raped when you are a child by close relatives, get beaten by the first man in your life, have almost no education, have a little child and no money at all. but nevertheless, always be full of love and understanding for those vulnerable souls of the other gender, those guys who urgently need to fuck for money. take a heart, understand and feel their needs, help them!
be ready to take the first chance you get offered to walk into one of those halls of world-wide-fame, the german brothels and fkk-clubs.
and serve the men later the way you now always dream of that it would happen to you.
for sure as a woman you then will lead a life of permanent joy and ecstasy.
Hessen Bub
02-08-08, 12:24
dream on! prostitutes want to earn money as quick as possible, that's it. you bring your illusions along, they don't need to give you any!
with all your good advices for prostitutes, you should pray every night that in your next life you will become a romanian woman! get raped when you are a child by close relatives, get beaten by the first man in your life, have almost no education, have a little child and no money at all. but nevertheless, always be full of love and understanding for those vulnerable souls of the other gender, those guys who urgently need to fuck for money. take a heart, understand and feel their needs, help them!
be ready to take the first chance you get offered to walk into one of those halls of world-wide-fame, the german brothels and fkk-clubs.
and serve the men later the way you now always dream of that it would happen to you.
for sure as a woman you then will lead a life of permanent joy and ecstasy.
there's a lot of truth in this, if you listen to the girls and they tell you their stories (not all of them will and not all stories will be true), the abvove does discribe their situation quite good. a romanian girl in a club once said to me that 99% of the romanian girls working in that club do have a man, manager, pimp - whatever you wanna call him.
so the only thing you can do (if not staying away from paysex) is to treat the girls well, respect them and their needs and do not be an asshole. just my 2 cents.
hb
After reading the latest posts on good or bad sessions, I have to say that according to my experiences (6 times in different FKK clubs), you have much more chances to get a good session in any FKK club than anywhere else, where paid "love" is offered. I suppose most of you agree with me on this.
On the other hand, to get a good service from girls working in FKK clubs, you have to treat them well and be as friendly with them as you expect them to be with you. It doesn't always work, but in the FKK clubs it usually works. Do you agree with me, or have I been too lucky?
the comments about romanian women who lie about not being romanian because they know that they have a bad reputation as providers got me to thinking? why can't they just do the right thing an give a good "room session" as it does not cost them a penny more! then they will have a good reputation and everyone will be happy!
the above comments relate to my problem with the current attitude of many of today's p4p providers.
i have pointed out in previous posts on different threads that, in general, sex is a pleasurable act(for the two or more participants) that virtually all p4p providers are paid extremely well.
message to p4p providers.
a sex provider's "job" is to make sex a positive/pleasurable experience so please don't get us pissed-off by trying to cheat us, belittle us. lie to us and, in general, being "f___ing assholes" we did not pay for this. treat the people who you have sex with in personal, non-paying, relationships this way as since your "giving it away' to them and they can take your sh_t!!
as a group, i believe, we (your customers) are just a group of decent. regular guys who pay for sex for a multitude of reasons. unless there is a reason to create an adversarial confrontation(the customer is not clean, is intoxicated, does not act in an respectful/polite manner, etc.) just be nice as it is not costing you anything except your time.
what special effort would it take to give us a gfe experience(close you eyes and pretend you are with someone special)?
i enjoy, and i am sure most mongers do, not just sex, but a "sexual experience". we like the foreplay(with positive, but not over-done, fake-sounding "ohs" and "ahs") of exploring and being explored, smiles, laughter, and light conversation reinforcing what you as well as what we are feeling. it makes most of us feel good to give sexual pleasure as well as to receive it and we try to be nice in what is often for us, and awkward situation.
bottom line, we do not like to feel we are "paying for it" and it takes minimal effort on you part to make us feel this way.
if you want to hurt men by playing a meter-reading ilsa, she wolf of the ss, please go somewhere else.
we did not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you when you were a child as well as we did not force you into this line of work. you are an adult and you chose this line of work so, we pay you to make us feel better, not to make us feel worse!!
well,
you know, i am the first to criticize a lot of these girls for lying, providing poor service, etc. but for what it's worth, i find many of your comments very selfish and just downright cruel.
i have met many romanian, polish, bulgarian, russian, etc. girls who do this job. some have been great providers, others... not so much. i have heard many a story from these girls. whether any of these are true or not, one thing i am pretty sure of: none of these women dreamt of being a prostitute when they were little girls.
the circumstances that lead to what they now do are varied. some of the stories are not nice to hear.
giving these women the benefit of the doubt that, at the very least the situations leading up to their current "career choice" might have been, well difficult, then it might behoove us to be a little more understanding of a p4p worker's sometimes "bad attitude".
oh, and not for nothing, but your last paragraph makes you sound like the cruelest, daft ass that has ever posted here. for the sake of the worst shark at palace, i hope that you confine your activities to the rld, or better yet your own shower stall.
good luck,
dedalus
the best asian lettering tattoo i have seen was on a very hot stripper. i asked her what it meant and she said dangerous.
actually- i believe julia's tatoo is best translated as "clockwatcher". one of the hottest girls i ever did, but she can't be bothered waiting for this old man to finish. i remember her pre-boob job- mmmm [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) city.
beffen
Spent the whole month in Frankfurt and had a blast! I went over to the palace 5 times and really enjoyed the relaxation there. Some of the girls that stick out:
Chinese: Can't remember her name but she was a little thick with pale skin. She was hot! It was like doing a little china doll. She spoke no english at all but the service was execelent!
Panama: She was a little thick also. Funny thing was that I was laying in the kino and she came a spoke to me for a bit so I told her not now cause I was tired and she said not a problem. After 15 minutes she came back and I had some Ukranian girl slobbin on my knob and she was still cool with it (like I care) so before I called it a nite and after I ate she asked and I said sure why not. She really made an effort to please though!
Venezuela: She was really nice. Spent a whole hour in the room with her and really went the extra mile with the GFE. She told me her real name but I cannot mention it here. She was always with the big titty girl from the Canary Islands.
Persian: Ok, I had to do a chubby so I would not descriminate! She was cool too. Went and did the efort to please.
I tend to stya away from the Romanians because of the rep they have and my early experiences at The Palace. The Russian girls I'm weary too of them. All in all The Palace is a great place and will soon be there again. Thanks to Jackson and all the fellows in this thread for the 411.
Be safe!
Warsteiner
02-09-08, 13:17
Hi,
I'm going to be heading to Palace on the 15th and wondered if anyone knew of any decent looking anal providers in the club? I've read through the old reports and will be trying to avoid the sharks but haven't seen any mention of girls who do anal.
Thanks
Ekliges Lauern
02-09-08, 16:25
Chinese: Can't remember her name but she was a little thick with pale skin. She was hot! It was like doing a little china doll. She spoke no english at all but the service was execelent!
Three ladies from China that I know of. I doubt it was the much discussed Tan as no one has had a good session with her. Koko is shorter and usually works the late evening shift on Friday and Saturday. She is short, slighty wide at the hips and very sweet. Probably close to 30. I think of her as a Chinese girl next store type. I saw her coming in in street clothes once, and if you saw her on the street, she wouldn't turn you head. The third Chinese lady is Kim. A little taller than Koko and probably under 25. A little thicker build with northern Chinese features. I only sessioned once with her. She tried to rush me a bit, but I didn't mind as I was seriously digging her look. I've only seen her there on weekdays. I suspect if you repeated with her and she remembered you, she would probably improve.
I'm guessing you saw Kim.
Hey Redvike,
That quote that you were perturbed by the whole Cuban missile crisis is A+ poetry. You are better than a "Fidel Castro and Robert Frost" mix of style and thought. Well put. Especially the comparison of a "dildo in her pussy" and her being Cuban, compared to what almost started WWIII.
Cheers!Hamboner,
Thank you very much for the compliment. Good luck at the Palace.
Redvike.
Problemsolver
02-13-08, 03:48
It is thanks to this forum and all of its contributors that I have decided on prolonging a standard Frankfort layover to a 30hr stop.
I had many questions, but with each page progressed (boy, was I enthralled with the pages here the last few days, just ask my co-workers…) most queries were answered. To all of you who took their time to answer ponderings, to report on activities, and mainly to those first timers who detailed their experiences with the novice in mind, thank you!
I do have a couple of clarifications that your help would be greatly appreciated.
1. Google placed the following two results at the top of their search:
http://www.the-palace.de/index_en.php
http://www.fkk-club-palace.com/
I believe that the first website is the one we’re talking about here, based on the address. But, my sense of Germanic towns and names is not that great, so I might be wrong.
2. The stopover is called for Wednesday afternoon to Thursday evening. Since clubs, I have read here, have one ‘bikini’ day a week and I’m the type that prefers the WYSIWYG mantra, should I come to Palace on Wednesday or Thursday (the other day being at Oase)?
You’re help would be greatly appreciated!
Of course, I hope to detail my experience with you after I’m back in the states (in about a month from now).
Thanks,
PS
Problemsolver
02-13-08, 05:03
It is thanks to this forum and all of its contributors that I have decided on prolonging a standard Frankfort layover to a 30hr stop.
I had many questions, but with each page progressed (boy, was I enthralled with the pages here the last few days, just ask my co-workers…) most queries were answered. To all of you who took their time to answer ponderings, to report on activities, and mainly to those first timers who detailed their experiences with the novice in mind, thank you!
I do have a couple of clarifications that your help would be greatly appreciated.
1. Google placed the following two results at the top of their search:
http://www.the-palace.de/index_en.php
http://www.fkk-club-palace.com/
I believe that the first website is the one we’re talking about here, based on the address. But, my sense of Germanic towns and names is not that great, so I might be wrong.
2. The stopover is called for Wednesday afternoon to Thursday evening. Since clubs, I have read here, have one ‘bikini’ day a week and I’m the type that prefers the WYSIWYG mantra, should I come to Palace on Wednesday or Thursday (the other day being at Oase)?
You’re help would be greatly appreciated!
Of course, I hope to detail my experience with you after I’m back in the states (in about a month from now).
Thanks,
PS
i do have a couple of clarifications that your help would be greatly appreciated.
1. google placed the following two results at the top of their search:
http://www.the-palace.de/index_en.php
http://www.fkk-club-palace.com/
i believe that the first website is the one we’re talking about here, based on the address. but, my sense of germanic towns and names is not that great, so i might be wrong.
2. the stopover is called for wednesday afternoon to thursday evening. since clubs, i have read here, have one ‘bikini’ day a week and i’m the type that prefers the wysiwyg mantra, should i come to palace on wednesday or thursday (the other day being at oase)?
you are correct. website number 1 above is fkk palace in frankfurt.
as for "bikini day", are you referring to this mention of wednesday "dessous" at http://www.the-palace.de/aktuelles_en.php ?
i guess i have never been to the palace on wednesday to see this. hard to believe that all the girls would be wearing underwear, but if so, i am sure they would give you a peek.
you are correct. website number 1 above is fkk palace in frankfurt.
as for "bikini day", are you referring to this mention of wednesday "dessous" at http://www.the-palace.de/aktuelles_en.php ?
i guess i have never been to the palace on wednesday to see this. hard to believe that all the girls would be wearing underwear, but if so, i am sure they would give you a peek.
yes, wednesday is "dessous" day at palace, which to my opinion is a great pity, since one of the pleasure of fkk clubs is to be surrounded by a sea of naked women. but to each his own taste, i guess some punters are excited by the "dessous".
and yes, many girls know that, by showing more than the others, they have a better chance to score, so you wil still get good views all around. but if you can choose, don't go on wednesdays.
Nedsprofhlp
02-15-08, 00:50
My third time at the Palace in as many years (yeah, I really wish I came here on business more often! ), but maybe my best experience yet. I wasn't expecting it, being a Monday and all. I took the advice of some vets and checked in at Fleming's hotel. Excellent idea! (Sure, it costs a bit more, but it is absolutely impossible to be anywhere closer to the Palace, unless you were to sleep in your car in their parking lot. Which they probably would not allow. And the place is first rate.- I had a beautiful room. And it was nice to know that I could nip out and back to my room, if I had to do something, or just needed a break.)
The entry fee has gone up since my last time.- now 75 euros. I got in relatively early.- just before 7PM, and the place was not packed by any means. I would guesstimate maybe 20 girls and about as many men, or maybe more (30? ). As usual, the girls ran the gamut, with most being (in my opinion) high 6s to low 9s. But to each their own. I noticed that some of the less attractive ones seemed to have little problem finding willing clients. I went to the kino first, but nothing going on there. In the past, women have been less aggressive there, but not the case for me that night.- either aggressive or nothing. Oh well. Wasn't there to watch other people have sex, so headed out to main room, mingled, had some of the buffet (not terrific, but never is.- what the hell, you paid for it, might as well eat it.)
I have to admit that I was relatively passive that night. Rather than pursue women, I just let them come to me, and then tossed back the ones I did not like (or got bad vibes from). The first to approach and get the green light was this big-tittied blonde from the Czech Rep named "Gina". (Or maybe its "Jenna", I don't know.) Her tits were as hard as a rock. Quite pretty face, although later noticed how much make up had to do with that. She had a lovely accent, and seemed reasonable, so off we went to the zimmer. Inside she explained her rates, and was quite open about it, but I did not quite understand that what she meant by "slow time" (I. E. GFE) was 50E extra, not just 50E extra because it was an hour. (Yes, I should have asked, if I was not sure.- that was my mistake.) Anyway, she did kiss.- something between DFK and LFK, but not for very long. In my opinion, her performance sort of flirted with GFE without really being it (at one point, she asked me not to stroke her face, because it would mess up her makeup.- geez! ). But what the hell, it was my first for the night and at that point, I was not being too picky. We did the gamut of positions, and the sex was very hot (started with a BBBJ that was very nice). We ended up finishing in just under 30 min, so I figured I owed her 50E since we did not end up spending an hour. (I would not have minded, but once she cleaned me up, she got ready to leave, so I figured I would too, to save some money.) There was a little awkwardness when she reminded me that I had agreed to the GFE for the 50E extra. Replaying it back in my mind, I could see that she was right, although I had not understood it at the time, so I just paid it. Again, my mistake for going along without understanding.- and 50E is a relatively small price to pay in this game. (Heck, if I'd known, I probably would have done it anyway for the GFE.- not that what I got was really GFE, but you get the idea.)
At that point, I had to get out and go back to my room to transact some business on the internet with some associates back in the. (All the while I was trying to suppress a big grin thinking of my poor co-workers slaving away back home, and what I had just experienced, and would soon again.) Flemings is great for this, and the Palace makes it easy to go and come back. Just make sure you get the pass from the lady on departure. I even left some stuff in the locker (but nothing valuable, of course).
When I got back, I think some more people had arrived, but it was still far from packed. I kept trying to catch the eye of a petite little blonde cutie, but she seemed to have no interest, and I've learned to avoid that type. While resting at the bar, this dark Dominicana named Marisol started to hit on me. At first I tried to put her off, saying that I couldn't yet do anything, but she was not believing me. She just kept speaking nicely to me, smiling and teasing, all the while stroking mister johnson, and pretty soon he was at full attention. Well, what the hell.- you got me! I guess I can, after all! And by that point, she was looking pretty attractive too. Long, lithe body with long dark hair. (Usually my type.- for some reason I was hungry for blondes that night, no idea why. Her pierced lip was not my thing, however. I noticed later that she had a breast enhancement, but it is not obvious at all.- the surface is all her, so soft, but deep down there is an implant making her breasts somewhat bigger. Very well done, in my opinion.) So, I explain I can only do a half hour ("solamente media-hora esta vez".- I speak some Spanish, which helped, since I speak almost no German.), in order to cut my losses if the experience was not so great. Not to worry – she took me back to the zimmer and proceeded to rock my world! Great BBBJ (those Dominicanas are routinely great at this.- I've been to the DR twice, so I know whereof I speak! ), light massage and LFK, and then she starts in on CG. There was some hot doggie action later with the standard ass slapping (but not too serious.- this is Germany, after all, not the DR), and then she got on me with this reverse CG action that just drove me wild. What an ass that girl has, and she knows how to move it! Damn, that did me in. Again, another job accomplished in just under 30 min! I settled accounts (50E well spent! ), and we went our separate ways.
I showered and brushed my teeth, and then found various ways to relax while scoping out the talent to see who was going to be my farewell kiss for the night. At one point, I heard the music change to something middle Eastern and then heard some clapping. I was over near the pool, trying unsuccessfully to track down another blonde (stupid me), when I looked up to see this petite girl with short black hair dressed in an Oriental outfit and doing a belly dance on the dance stage.- and very well too! I could tell from her features that she was not Middle Eastern, but they were still exotic. I was intrigued, so I relocated to the couches across to get a better view, and enjoyed the show. When the song was over, I clapped along with most of the girls and men (at least, the ones who weren't assholes), and she went and took off her outfit and then walked around, so I knew she was working there that night, although I had not noticed her before. A little while later, she approached me somewhat hesitantly, but I waved her over. I congratulated her on her dancing abilities, and we talked. She said her name is Ruby, and she is from Hungary. I could feel a connection forming after a few minutes. Although I don't speak German well, and her English was not great, we had enough other languages in common (Italian, etc.) that we could communicate. We cuddled and kissed a little on the couch before we went to the room. Guys, this was an example of the little present from heaven that occasionally gets dumped in our laps when we least expect it. Ruby said it was her first night at the Palace. I don't know if that's true, but it sure seemed like it in some ways, although she did know how the game was played. On the other hand, she really seemed to be into me. I suggested we take a full hour and take our time, and she heartily agreed. Wow, now with this girl it really WAS a GFE experience! Slow and seductive, but passionate and explosive. It really felt like a truly intimate experience, and at the same time it was incredibly hot. This was the first time I have experienced something like this at a FKK, and I think that YMMV really holds true here. I could not believe that I could come a third time in one night (not that young any more).- but I did! But it took some time.- I really wore out poor little Ruby by the end. I rewarded her by giving her a massage afterwards, which she seemed to appreciate. She told me some about her life, and I told her some about mine. It was really a wonderful time. Was sorry to say good bye, as I know I won't be back through for some time. But its true that I left the Palace that night with a BIG smile on my face.
Good mongering to you all! And thanks for the many posts that helped me to steer clear of some sharks and seek out the delights that an FKK can provide.
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Problemsolver
02-15-08, 23:30
Thanks for the help.
There's something to be said about dressed vs. naked girls, the former being more appetizing/exciting. Also since the girls who work Wednesday’s are (presumably) the same ones who bare it all on other days, chances are that there won’t be any ugly surprises (such as sagging tits, huge stretch marks, visible scars etc.) once the zimmer session is in place.
But, as the experience of the FKK (vs. the strip clubs in the US) is mainly the aura, and the view of young available booty, and since we only have one night really (God only knows how much juice will be left for the following day), best bet is to experience it in its full glory.
Shall report when I’m back home.
Nedsprofhlp
02-16-08, 00:46
At the risk of being repetitive, I thought I'd post some new directions to the Palace from Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof via subway, for anyone getting to the Palace for the first time this way:
1) Take the subway (U-bahn) line U4 to Bockenheimer Warte. Its just 2 stops and it dead-ends there.
2) Get out and follow signs to the U6/U7 lines. (You'll have to go upstairs. They also have an elevator, in case you have heavy bags.)
3) Take the next U6 or U7 train heading northwest. (For U6, the terminus is "Hausen"; for U7, its "Praunheim Heerstrasse".) Doesn't matter which one you take, as both go to Industriehof/Neue Börse, which is your stop. (In fact, they split after that.)
4) Get off at "Industriehof/Neue Börse". You'll walk forward (same direction as tram) briefly to the point where you can turn left and cross the tram lines and then the street. The turn right after you cross, so you're still going in the "forward" direction.
5) There is a break in the wall to your left after a very short walk (you can easily see it from the tram stop), which allows pedestrians and bikers to walk over to Königsbergerstrasse. Once you walk through this entry, just go straight. The Palace is on the left just after the first intersection you cross (Neue Börsestrasse) -- you cannot miss it. (Really, you can't.)
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Few months ago I visited FKK Oase on the first day & FKK Palace on the second. Needless to mention that the selection was fair at both the places and there was no reason to complain as some of the girls were friendly without being pushy. I took my time to look around, talked to the ones who were comfortable conversing in English and went with three girls at each of the FKKs who according to my scale were 7 to 10 in looks and 7 to 9 in service and GFE.
It wouldn't be appropriate for me to list the names in view of what I am going to write hereunder.
Within 4 days of returning back I felt itching and soreness in my little brother. Thereafter there was pus spotting. That's when I panicked and rushed to the doc. After a swab analysis it was found to be " Diplococchi "-- a kind of Gonorrhea. I was on antibiotics for several days.
The significant issue is that all our monger friends on the forum write about intimate DFKs/ DATYs, and 69 where fluids from the genitalia are getting transferred from the girls to other men and the chain goes on. It would be worth reading some of the health websites which highlight the methods by which STDs and other infections can be transmitted. Most of my reporting friends don't talk about any precautions and several feel happy about BBBJ. Since most friends are fairly well off. Maybe prfessional & businessmen. It is time to raise some red flags.
Enjoyment is primary but would it be worth taking the enormous risks associated with unprotected sex esp DATY / 69.
If some of my friends have experienced similar situations it would really be worth highlighting it. It is especially for the ones who are in some form carrying the STDs and then indulge in Daty / 69 and put the other fellow mongers at a serious risk. Not to mention the girls, who inorder to earn money don't even bother to check before doing bbbjs and 69. It is time to reflect and give suggestions as to how can the risk be reduced / eliminated.
Would appreciate feedback from other friends as this is a serious issue.
Well, you know, you roll the dice often enough ... eventually, you are gonna catch something.
If you are worried, then avoid BBBJ, DATY, and DFK. That reduces the risk quite a bit.
Some things can still be transmitted, even when wearing a condom all the time. Example: HPV.
If you are really worried, then simply avoid P4P.
In the end you have to make a judgement how much risk which activity is worth to you. As for me, I can live with the odds that we are getting. In other news, I am not going to give up riding my motorcycle either ;)
As amply discussed everywhere on this board, there is no zero risk, unless you stay at home..( and that even depends on what you do at home...)
And gonorrhea is no more than a tonsillitis, it just needs a short simple harmless antibiotic treatment.
I recently got some urethral discharge after a long mongering trip in Asia, where I indulged occasionnaly in BBBJ (but never uncovered penetration, there the risk is too high); A one single day of high dose of AB and it was gone.
Not to say that this is irrelevant, but, again, everything is about "risk-management"....
As for phoenix99 post, I notice that it is his first, and he only talks about STDs.. Well, what is trying to achieve here? to tell us that, yes, our hobby comes with some risks? That, even in FKK you can catch something? Thanks, I knew that already.
I suggest respectfully that he posts this kind of comments on STDs specialised forum, and give us a more useful report of his visits at Palace,...
Hessen Bub
02-16-08, 20:05
She said her name is Ruby, and she is from Hungary. I could feel a connection forming after a few minutes.
Ruby said it was her first night at the Palace.
She's been working at Oase before, but I've met her at Palace on Thursday 7th, the day before the 4th anniversary party, so probably Monday was not her first day there. Never mind, I've had a great time with her, and you had too, that's the important thing, not the little lies the girls tell to please us. BTW - she's probably from Romania, maybe 50% Hungarian, as a lot of Romanian girls do have some Hungarian blood.
HB
Nick The G
02-16-08, 21:13
It is especially for the ones who are in some form carrying the STDs and then indulge in Daty / 69 and put the other fellow mongers at a serious risk. Not to mention the girls, who inorder to earn money don't even bother to check before doing bbbjs and 69. It is time to reflect and give suggestions as to how can the risk be reduced / eliminated.The dangerous ones are always the other ones! Each one of us regards the other ones as being the bad guys or girls.
There is no risk "itself".
These women there, with their behaviour, they are the "risk".
We, the men there, with our behaviour, we are "the risk"!
You are "the risk" and if you go there, you like "the risk".
To eliminate "the risk", stop yourself going to these places! It's simple as that! So why spend so much thinking on changing circumstances or all the other people, start changing yourself! This is where you will be most successful.
By the way, once you're born in this world, you fully face the risk of dying. You going to die someday, for sure! And you cannot avoid it, by no means, it doesn't help and it doesn't matter how much money you will spend on fucking.
You pay for sex and you get - besides some pleasure - as a bonus the chance to get sexually transmitted diseases (STD's), for free! What more can you expect? It's more than you expected!
Goodtime Man
02-17-08, 04:53
The Palace this past Saturday night. Busy, but not as busy as I would have expected. Never any waiting for rooms. Found the young adorable Czech blond I had connected with last month. Gina. To die for! She is all about what do you want and how do you want it and how can I help you! And if she had to, I am sure that she could suck a baseball through a garden hose!
Tried another 22 yo Hungarian beauty from Buda. Name like Dado. Body and face nearly a 10. Her oral technique honed to perfection.
I finally remembered to take a 5 note to tip the bar girls who feed me 10+ Diet Cokes a day whilst I am there.
As always, stay in the Flemings. Where elae can you roll out of bed and visit a place where there are 40-50 young nubile beaties ready to make your day!
Strikesfun
02-18-08, 21:04
[QUOTE=Phoenix99]
The significant issue
The significant issue is you, you made a chocie to go to a club be with a women man up to it and live with it. There is nothing to change here. You have a choice to stay out of the clubs be a man and not put the blame on others or look for rules. Be happy that you can make a choice.
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