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Chicafan
02-18-08, 21:31
[QUOTE=Phoenix99]
The significant issue

The significant issue is you, you made a chocie to go to a club be with a women man up to it and live with it. There is nothing to change here. You have a choice to stay out of the clubs be a man and not put the blame on others or look for rules. Be happy that you can make a choice.

Sounds to me like you are really coming down on Phoenix. I am glad he posted his experience to remind us to be careful. I also do not see where he is blaming anyone or failing to accept responsibility.

Everhard
02-18-08, 22:17
Yeah, A reminder can be good once in a while. The objection I would make is
It wouldn't be appropriate for me to list the names in view of what I am going to write hereunder.Why the hell not? This forum is all about gossip and info. It would improve your credibility immensely if you gave some interesting info before starting preaching. Unless you did one girl on your two club visits, I don't see how you can tell which girl infected you? Be a man and tell the whole story!

Also, you are implying that an STD is something to be ashamed of. It just meant that you had sex, for gods sake. I agree it is kind of shameful in the society, but so is mongering! I have got colds from working girls. If I followed your code I guess I shouldn't write about it? Well I didn't because it is of no interest for other readers. An STD, on the other hand, is.

Ericklein
02-18-08, 22:20
Looking at the pictures of the girls on their website, the place seems to be more than perfect!

I haven't followed up all the posts of course, bur comparing the names given be some of you friends recently, they don't match with the names of the girls shown in the website.

Could any regular fan of the place suggest any of the perfect girls shown in the pictures? I will be there within this week.

Ericklein
02-18-08, 22:35
Few months ago I visited FKK Oase ... as this is a serious issue.I suppose I am not the only one, but for me BBBJ and GFE is the reason I visit FKK clubs. Everyone knows that there is a certain risk, but the risk is small enough to forget it during the pleasure sessions!

It would be good to hear if any of you fellow mongers had similar bad experiences with Phoenix99 more recent than a few months ago.

I also agree with Everhard that Phoenix should give us some names of the girls. I can't find a reason, why he shouldn't.

Hessen Bub
02-19-08, 08:41
Could any regular fan of the place suggest any of the perfect girls shown in the pictures? I will be there within this week.

What you wanna know? If the girls are still working there? If there service is good? I'll try to give you some information (my very personal view):

Ria - not seen her for months, never been with her, supposed to be OK
Laura - not seen her for months, good performer, reports differ
Ainoha - still there, enhanced breasts, never been with her, supposed to be OK
Daisy - still there, not been with her for a long time, so and so
Ibana - still there, never been with her, don't know about her service
Claudia - not seen her for months, she's at Arte in Berlin, great performer
Chris - still there, never been with her, supposed to be good
Lilly - still there, been with her, a little rush, not very personal, no rip off
Adrianna - still there, never been with her, supposed to be good
Danie - not seen her for months, been with her, service is OK
Leona - still there, never been with her, don't know about her service
Gina - not seen her for months, never been with her, don't know about her service
Liz/Lisa - still there, last time I was with her was years ago at Atlantis, service is good
Lydia - not seen her for months, never been with her, don't know about her service
Olivia - not seen her for months, never been with her, don't know about her service
Saskia - still there, never been with her, supposed to be good
Mona - still there, been with her, service is good
Olympia - still there, been with her, service may vary from great to poor - depending on her mood and you
Sabine - still there, never been with her, supposed to be OK

HB

Ericklein
02-19-08, 15:00
What you wanna know? If the girls are still working there? If there service is good? I'll try to give you some information (my very personal view):

Ria - not seen her for months, never been with her, supposed to be OK
Laura - not seen her for months, good performer, reports differ
Ainoha - still there, enhanced breasts, never been with her, supposed to be OK
Daisy - still there, not been with her for a long time, so and so
Ibana - still there, never been with her, don't know about her service
Claudia - not seen her for months, she's at Arte in Berlin, great performer
Chris - still there, never been with her, supposed to be good
Lilly - still there, been with her, a little rush, not very personal, no rip off
Adrianna - still there, never been with her, supposed to be good
Danie - not seen her for months, been with her, service is OK
Leona - still there, never been with her, don't know about her service
Gina - not seen her for months, never been with her, don't know about her service
Liz/Lisa - still there, last time I was with her was years ago at Atlantis, service is good
Lydia - not seen her for months, never been with her, don't know about her service
Olivia - not seen her for months, never been with her, don't know about her service
Saskia - still there, never been with her, supposed to be good
Mona - still there, been with her, service is good
Olympia - still there, been with her, service may vary from great to poor - depending on her mood and you
Sabine - still there, never been with her, supposed to be OK

HBWhoa! Are you actually living there? Respect! You should change your name to FKK GURU. 1000 thanks for the info. I'll report on my nice experienes.

Shark16
02-19-08, 18:32
She's been working at Oase before, but I've met her at Palace on Thursday 7th, the day before the 4th anniversary party, so probably Monday was not her first day there. Never mind, I've had a great time with her, and you had too, that's the important thing, not the little lies the girls tell to please us. BTW - she's probably from Romania, maybe 50% Hungarian, as a lot of Romanian girls do have some Hungarian blood.

HB

Ruby is working in Palace now? Ah, this is great info. Thanks HB and Nedsprofhlp! I met her in Oase last year and had a great, great time. Petite, yes, but what an energy. Really enthusiastic and GF-ish at the same time. Do recommend.

Should not be confused with Ruby at World, who I found a bit processive (Ruby at World also looks totally different/neutral recommendation from me).

Vito Corleone
02-20-08, 01:22
Whoa! Are you actually living there? Respect! You should change your name to FKK GURU. 1000 thanks for the info. I'll report on my nice experienes.HB is a big time VIP @ Palace. He knows all the girls (well, most of them).

Hessen Bub
02-20-08, 08:39
HB is a big time VIP @ Palace. He knows all the girls (well, most of them).

I am not a VIP (just a regular visitor) and I really do not (want to) know all the girls at Palace.

HB

Dreams
02-21-08, 14:36
Just to confirm that, having mnaged to clear a 6 hour transfer time at frankfurt airport, during day time ( 12 to 6 pm) I have ample time to go to Palace and enjoy 2-3 sessions..?

I assume that without luggage, it's 15 min walking to taxi, 30 min taxi, 15 min to shower and undress, it's 1 pm. 30 min to look around, and 30 min session 1, it's 2 pm, Again 30 min rest, and session 2, it's 3 pm, and , if energy level is high enough, another session until 4,. Dress, get out ,taxi to airport, should be there by 5, no luggage, no immigration, enough time to reach the gate by 5.30..
Any comment?

DeepVoid
02-21-08, 18:29
Just to confirm that, having mnaged to clear a 6 hour transfer time at frankfurt airport, during day time ( 12 to 6 pm) I have ample time to go to Palace and enjoy 2-3 sessions..?

I assume that without luggage, it's 15 min walking to taxi, 30 min taxi, 15 min to shower and undress, it's 1 pm. 30 min to look around, and 30 min session 1, it's 2 pm, Again 30 min rest, and session 2, it's 3 pm, and , if energy level is high enough, another session until 4,. Dress, get out ,taxi to airport, should be there by 5, no luggage, no immigration, enough time to reach the gate by 5.30..
Any comment?

Hi Dreams
I do exactly what you are planning every couple months. There is rarely a wait for taxis at Palace cause they wait outside. If there is no traffic a taxi is only 15 minutes if I remember correctly. My only concern would be how crowded security will be at 5PM.

Toscana
02-21-08, 22:28
Dress, get out ,taxi to airport, should be there by 5, no luggage, no immigration, enough time to reach the gate by 5.30..
Any comment?
Don't underestimate the traffic problems late afternoon, especially on a Friday. The taxi would probably go via the Autobahn, but it can get heavily congested. (The Verkehr in the club could be pretty awful too. Good luck with your choices.)

Ortos
02-21-08, 22:52
Don't underestimate the traffic problems late afternoon, especially on a Friday. The taxi would probably go via the Autobahn, but it can get heavily congested. (The Verkehr in the club could be pretty awful too. Good luck with your choices.)

Taxi to Hauptbahnhof and then S-bahn to Airport. S-bahn every 15mins or so...no traffic, ja?

Ortos

Breadman
02-24-08, 00:39
Ive heard the warnings...shouldnt have listened to my little head. Never experience so much rushed service. What do these girls want to do? Get 50 euro's for 10 minutes of work? I even wore a watch, let them see me glance at it when we entered the room...maybe I should have brought along a big neon countdown timer and set in on the counter. Even took a girl into the room, she looked at my size and said coldly "your too big, i only do blow job"....the room got so cold I said just forget it....then she said "you pay me since we came in the room".

Talent level before 6pm...pathetic. Maybe only 4 girls on my chart. Picked two....first wanted to be done in 15 minutes. The other one was looking so bored that I wonder if she fell asleep. Figured it couldnt get worse....then the girl from above came along. Man, just one cold ice queen every 15 seconds saying "you wanna fuck?"... Managed to do one more later just to see if I could break the trend...no luck. 15 minutes go by and she wants to be done...

So we sat in the club around 10pm on a Saturday night looking at the talent level and timing the girls from time to time....10 minutes seemed to be the norm. Even mentioned the service to the door personnel on the way out and they brought management into it...who ran and grabbed one of the girls and basically said "we can't do anything since the girls don't work for us".

On a side note...Oase rocked the night before. 3 of the best gfe sessions ive ever had in germany...batted 1,000 there....went -.333 at Palace counting the first ever failed encounter of my fkk career. Will I be back...not a chance.

King Of Crunk
02-24-08, 02:29
I had this happen to me last year in April of 07, but this was at night time which I suspected could happen but my trip to the palace in 06 was such a good time I didn't even think about it but to here this stuff happen before it gets packed is such a shame. One thing about mongering in Europe is that they are a bit more hardened and straight to business but I'm sure there are instances where this isn't so. If I go back to Frankfurt I will definitely check out the other major FKK's and just hit some regular night spots while in Frankfurt metro. This is truly sad because I thought The Palace was a real customer oriented place but guess not. The sad thing is guys will still go to this place because it is the only major FKK in town that is accessible.

Love Palace
02-24-08, 03:04
Hi Breadman,

Nice to meet you at Oase Friday night. Agree with you that it was a good line up. Thursday I was at Palace and find it as good as Oase concerning line up. Oase was better concerning posibilities to walk outside and have fresh air, but food was not as good as Palace. But when it comes to behaviour of the girls I find it equally good. And girls are also working both places! It is different from day to day! It was your first visit to Palace, my first visit to Oase. I will visit both in the future. Especially Oase in the summer. All the best for the rest of your FKK tour!

Euro100
02-24-08, 03:39
Will I be back...not a chance.
I am with you! But even if every member of this forum boycotts this place, it would not matter. They are so close to the Messe, which is automatic guaranteed business. Lots of idiots with really big entertainment accounts! So the girls can get away with the horrible service that now seems absolutely standard at the Palace.

Regnad
02-24-08, 07:43
I was at Palace with Breadman last night, arriving around 2 PM, departing around 11. The lineup on arrival was quite slim, by 5 it had deteriorated to grim, by about 9, it had climbed up to acceptable, but nothing like the talent available at Oase either the night before or on my previous trip, back in November.

But it wasn't the lineup that was the problem, so much as the quality of service. At Oase on Thursday, I had three engagements, each leaving me with the feeling that I was with a girlfriend who couldn't get enough of me. Making out like a 15 year old at the bar with Michelle as a prelude to heading off to the chamber was enchanting. But at Palace, I experienced nothing of the sort.

Two of the 3 girls I met at Palace were quite cold, one of them near hostile. "Is this your first session of the day." "No, my third." "Oh, then it will take you a long time to finish." From the Hungarian, Juana.

What was quite remarkable was the extremely high quality of service that Breadman and I got from our six (combined) sessions at Oase, mirrored by the low quality of service we got from our six (again, combined) sessions at Palace.

That, piled upon the lack of any exterior place to get fresh air, will make a return to Palace quite unlikely.

Oh, and, Timmendorf, quite a pleasure meeting up with you and your friend at Oase the night before, sharing stories, and the like.

Breadman
02-24-08, 08:55
But when it comes to behaviour of the girls I find it equally good.

I know I can't lump all the girls at Palace into one group...but when the nice girls see the cold one's processing clients in 10 minutes, they see the money flowing 3 times as fast into those girls pockets.

Pretty much all of our girls were friendly until the door closed...then they became sharks. And it seems the bad practices are tolerated...it was pointed out that some of these girls work 5 times week. Alot of cash for the club...so you can guess why management sides with the girls...$$$ compared to $ for the guy complaining.

I tried breaking the ice by giving the girls at Oase a little massage to get them relaxed and get my juices flowing and had great success (thread in the oase section)...but at Palace almost every girl made the comment "you pay me for massage?". Until I hear that management starts to control the room keys and keep track of the time in the room, id never even consider going back. You pay for 30 minutes, somewhere close to 30 minutes is what you should get.

Plus's were the food and quick service by the bar staff...minus is the humid air at the top bar that makes it almost impossible to bear (that large jacuzzi upstairs should be in a seperate room like Oase).

Regnad
02-24-08, 09:24
You pay for 30 minutes, somewhere close to 30 minutes is what you should get.
We played a little game with a couple of the girls that we'd done time with. We'd watch her go off with a guy, check our watches and guess how long it would be before we'd see them walk out. 10 minutes was quite common, rarely longer than 15.

Love Palace
02-24-08, 10:31
Hi guys,

I am very sorry about your bad experience at Palace. I have visited Palace for many years (since the venue was only one room) and are very happy with it. Seen sharks, but met the same 6-7 girls over and over. I saw how nicely you threated the girls at Oase, so I think I am threated only better in Palace because I am a regular costumer. My friend had also good experience both at Oase and Palace. Loving both places, but admit that the outdoor facilities at Oase will make it a favourite place in summer! But it is gold to be found both places! Nice meeting you both, first time we met ISG members.

Wanking
02-24-08, 13:30
I've heard the warnings. Shouldnt have listened to my little head. Never experience so much rushed service. What do these girls want to do? Get 50 euro's for 10 minutes of work? I even wore a watch, let them see me glance at it when we entered the room. Maybe I should have brought along a big neon countdown timer and set in on the counter. Even took a girl into the room, she looked at my size and said coldly "your too big, I only do blow job". The room got so cold I said just forget it. Then she said "you pay me since we came in the room".

Talent level before 6pm. Pathetic. Maybe only 4 girls on my chart. Picked two. First wanted to be done in 15 minutes. The other one was looking so bored that I wonder if she fell asleep. Figured it couldn't get worse. Then the girl from above came along. Man, just one cold ice queen every 15 seconds saying "you wanna fuck? ". Managed to do one more later just to see if I could break the trend. No luck. 15 minutes go by and she wants to be done.

So we sat in the club around 10pm on a Saturday night looking at the talent level and timing the girls from time to time. 10 minutes seemed to be the norm. Even mentioned the service to the door personnel on the way out and they brought management into it. Who ran and grabbed one of the girls and basically said "we can't do anything since the girls don't work for us".

On a side note. Oase rocked the night before. 3 of the best gfe sessions I've ever had in germany. Batted 1, 000 there. Went.. 333 at Palace counting the first ever failed encounter of my fkk career. Will I be back. Not a chance. If this place has become so utterly crap, why do you guys continue to go there in your droves?

Dedalus
02-24-08, 22:44
HB is a big time VIP @ Palace. He knows all the girls (well, most of them).


I thought Don Vito was the big VIP. At Oase, World and Palace as well.

Cheerio,

Dedalus, once a VIP at Palace, but now an outside who rarely bothers to look in

Regnad
02-24-08, 23:23
If this place has become so utterly crap, why do you guys continue to go there in your droves?
Excuuuuse me. This was our first and last trip to Palace.

Chicafan
02-25-08, 01:45
If this place has become so utterly crap, why do you guys continue to go there in your droves?

WTF? Here's a guy telling you he gave the place a try and didn't like it and you act like he's there every night but still bitching about the place.

Member #2363
02-25-08, 11:33
Going to the palace next month after not visiting for more than a year.

Can you recommend the GFE girls that are in the palace?

Thaks for the good posts - will report when I am back.

Member #1071
02-25-08, 12:29
Hi guys,

I am very sorry about your bad experience at Palace. I have visited Palace for many years (since the venue was only one room) and are very happy with it. Seen sharks, but met the same 6-7 girls over and over. I saw how nicely you threated the girls at Oase, so I think I am threated only better in Palace because I am a regular costumer. My friend had also good experience both at Oase and Palace. Loving both places, but admit that the outdoor facilities at Oase will make it a favourite place in summer! But it is gold to be found both places! Nice meeting you both, first time we met ISG members.

Totally agree with Timm.
It is a hit and miss issue. I have been visiting palace for the past three years. I have met sharks but alos have met nice ladies with almost real GFE attitude.
I do admit however that the number of sharks is groing bigger and bigger, but still Palace remains one of my favorite places.

Chicafan
02-25-08, 15:24
I was at Palace with Breadman last night,

I met up with Regnad and Breadman at Palace Saturday night. When I arrived around 5:30 I was informed by the front desk there were loads of Italian guys who had come in a big group but that more girls would arrive later. It seemed like there were only around 5 girls outside of rooms and about 30+ men hanging out. The place had an ominous feel but I knew I had to be patient and see what developed. As the night went on more guys and girls arrived. The problem I had overall was that all the girls I like from previous trips were absent. I do not mind repeating and was hoping to choose a two or three of the girls who are my favorites. Worse though, the lineup overall was not that strong imo. Add to that a few girls throwing some of that attitude and it makes the place feel like anything but home.

I have always enjoyed Palace and not been hassled there, but my visit last Saturday was different. It certainly was not all cold by any means. I flirted with and had some conversations with quite a few girls. It's just the ones that will occasionally deflate your feelings that are annoying. The sessions I had were pretty good. In fact one Colombiana I went with had an intense and long orgasm while we were together and a girl who said she was from Maartin or Martinique(?) was also pretty good for me and we had a mutually good session. But really, I would rather have tagged a couple of my favorites instead.

Looking around towards the end of the night there were only around 5 girls that if I went back I would definitely try. There were some real good looking blonds by the way. But still, it just did not seem like enough. I know it was only one night and maybe Saturday nights are bad because some of the really good girls like to take the night off, who knows. I did meet a real nice Romanian girls towards the end of the night that was very nice, talkative, and really pretty damn good looking. She seemed to have the perfect attitude(outside the room) and I will look for her if I go back.

I had a pretty long talk with the girls at the door and they said they were going to pass on the sentiments that girls tend not to be nice... they really want names of girls, or me to point out any girls that are bitchy or provide poor service and I told them I really don't want to get into all that. They claimed that management really wants to know who is "bad". But I told them management is well known to side with girls who are trying to rip guys off and they went into the song and dance about management looking out for the girls and trying to treat them like people. Then they said you have to interview and make sure there is a connection and blah blah blah. I don't think anything will improve.

I'm still a fan of Palace and will definitely return but the line up I would hope is a lot better.

I wonder whatever happened to the Hungarian girl called Kittie who used to work at PHG then started at Palace a while back. I haven't seen her in six months.

Vito Corleone
02-26-08, 03:33
I thought Don Vito was the big VIP. At Oase, World and Palace as well.

Cheerio,

Dedalus, once a VIP at Palace, but now an outside who rarely bothers to look inI just spend a lot of money @ all 3 clubs. You & the other Jedi masters are the true VIPs.

I found a girl I really liked & clicked with (Denise, Romanian, blonde, 5'6, A's, tight & toned) & spent a lot of time with her.

Vito Corleone
02-26-08, 03:52
I met up with Regnad and Breadman at Palace Saturday night. When I arrived around 5:30 I was informed by the front desk there were loads of Italian guys who had come in a big group but that more girls would arrive later. It seemed like there were only around 5 girls outside of rooms and about 30+ men hanging out. The place had an ominous feel but I knew I had to be patient and see what developed. As the night went on more guys and girls arrived. The problem I had overall was that all the girls I like from previous trips were absent. I do not mind repeating and was hoping to choose a two or three of the girls who are my favorites. Worse though, the lineup overall was not that strong imo. Add to that a few girls throwing some of that attitude and it makes the place feel like anything but home.

I have always enjoyed Palace and not been hassled there, but my visit last Saturday was different. It certainly was not all cold by any means. I flirted with and had some conversations with quite a few girls. It's just the ones that will occasionally deflate your feelings that are annoying. The sessions I had were pretty good. In fact one Colombiana I went with had an intense and long orgasm while we were together and a girl who said she was from Maartin or Martinique(?) was also pretty good for me and we had a mutually good session. But really, I would rather have tagged a couple of my favorites instead.

Looking around towards the end of the night there were only around 5 girls that if I went back I would definitely try. There were some real good looking blonds by the way. But still, it just did not seem like enough. I know it was only one night and maybe Saturday nights are bad because some of the really good girls like to take the night off, who knows. I did meet a real nice Romanian girls towards the end of the night that was very nice, talkative, and really pretty damn good looking. She seemed to have the perfect attitude(outside the room) and I will look for her if I go back.

I had a pretty long talk with the girls at the door and they said they were going to pass on the sentiments that girls tend not to be nice... they really want names of girls, or me to point out any girls that are bitchy or provide poor service and I told them I really don't want to get into all that. They claimed that management really wants to know who is "bad". But I told them management is well known to side with girls who are trying to rip guys off and they went into the song and dance about management looking out for the girls and trying to treat them like people. Then they said you have to interview and make sure there is a connection and blah blah blah. I don't think anything will improve.

I'm still a fan of Palace and will definitely return but the line up I would hope is a lot better.

I wonder whatever happened to the Hungarian girl called Kittie who used to work at PHG then started at Palace a while back. I haven't seen her in six months.
I spent 5 days @ Palace in early Feb. & had a great time. There were plenty of sharks & girls with bad attitudes, but it is just part of Palace's charm. Show some patience & take your time picking will usually help in avoiding sharks. I had some great sessions, but some bad ones too. Salome from Brazil was great until I gave her 50E then she demanded 100E. She said we were in the room for 31 minutes, but I was wearing a watch & checked to make sure I am done & out by 28 minutes. I held my ground (this is not my first time @ Palace) & she went out of her way to glare @ me the next 3 days.

I also live in the US where good service here would be considered crap in an FKK, so I see things from a different point of view. A drop dead gorgeous woman with a killer bod & average service, will keep me happy for 30 minutes. If I find a girl I really like, then 2 or more hours is the norm for me.

I have had bad sessions & mini robs @ both Oase, World & Golden Time so a bad session now & then @ Palace does not bother me.

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Member #2363
02-26-08, 08:56
Planning to be 2 days in Frankfurt and hesitating between Oase and Palace.

Any clear recomendations?

Marlow
02-26-08, 09:37
Palace has never had a good reputation. Some like it, but in the main even before it was re-vamped as 'Palace' many years ago, it was regarded as a tourist trap for all those saps in Frankfurt for a Messe.

Chaudry
02-26-08, 20:18
Planning to be 2 days in Frankfurt and hesitating between Oase and Palace.

Any clear recomendations?I was a regular place vistor but given my recent two three visits, I would suggest that do not visit the place. The girls there are now bent at ruining your stay.

Regnad
02-26-08, 21:27
Planning to be 2 days in Frankfurt and hesitating between Oase and Palace.

Any clear recomendations?

Breadman and I just met a combined 25 girls over the last 4 days at Oase, Palace, Oase, and Finca. The worst 6 sessions we had were the 6 we had at Palace. I wonder if they offer prize at the end of each week for the girl with the shortest average session.

Finca last night was a delightful surprise. Not a lot of girls there, maybe 20, but nearly half of them were gems and the service was fabulous.

Vito Corleone
02-27-08, 01:01
Planning to be 2 days in Frankfurt and hesitating between Oase and Palace.

Any clear recomendations?I would try both, but if you are a FKK newbie, I would avoid Palace. There are some sharks & girls who give bad/ok service @ Oase too, but not as much as Palace. Both clubs have hot looking women who are gfe, just be patient & talk to the girls before you decide.

Dedalus
02-27-08, 10:46
Palace has never had a good reputation. Some like it, but in the main even before it was re-vamped as 'Palace' many years ago, it was regarded as a tourist trap for all those saps in Frankfurt for a Messe.


Not quite true. I am as or more critical of the current state of things (that word is for you, Nick) at Palace than anyone. But Palace WAS a very good club with tremendous talent and a high standard of service from the time it adopted the name "Palace" until about three months before they raised the entrance price.

There was a golden period a few years ago when the line up at Palace, just could not be beat by the other Frankfurt clubs; both in terms of eye candy and overall service.

It would be great if they would get rid of the current shark mafia and get their act together, but I am not too hopeful. If it happens, then I will be one of the first through their doors.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Nick The G
02-27-08, 16:08
Not quite true. I am as or more critical of the current state of things (that word is for you, Nick) at Palace than anyone. Or "current state of affairs"? (that word is for you, Dedalus)

btw: for quite a few almost all circumstances in the past were always better than they are in the here and now!

Dedalus
02-28-08, 01:09
btw: for quite a few almost all circumstances in the past were always better than they are in the here and now!


If you are implying that I am a "lost-in-the-past, nostalgia-lover" then I can't completely argue. How does that old joke go, "Nostalgia ain't what it use to be" ?

I still hold to my belief that Palace was once a model of style, quality and class back in the day. But...Palace ain't what it use to be.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Drew 0303
03-02-08, 07:21
Having lived on the border between France and Germany, I can only say that a place like Palace in Frankfurt is a Godsend, when one compares it with the shit service one encounters in the red light district of Paris. By that I mean Pigalle. Back in 2004 I had some luck in Pigalle, negociating a 30 minute fuck for 100 euros, but since then it has been rip off city. Last night was my latest crappy experience: After paying 150 euros for two Champagne bottles, the price shared with a friend, the house in question tried to charge me 750 euros for my share for one of the two bottles. They insisted it was an error and I believed them because they tried to cancel the payment. So I must cancel my American credit card because of THEIR fuck up, and when the girl I was with "invited" me to the room, she was uneasy about my removing my pants and shoes. I had just paid her. 150 euros and we did not fuck.compare that with the Palace in Frankfurt, where you can meet some really nice gals who take their time and only charge you 50 euros per HOUR and I say that any complaints about this fine Frankfurt establishment are hogwash. I look oh so forward to returning and meeting with Kim and Phylis. Fuck Paris. An overpriced lovely city for sure. But overprices and annoying.

Mario Veneto
03-03-08, 19:21
Hi Drew,

Paris is not a city for sex mongering.

Even if you go through the local websites and find Asians girls in the 13th district, ready to fuck for 150 e, you still get very disappointed when you get there and see their face and body. Most of the time the pictures are fake and do not correspond to the reality.

If you want a good service in Paris you should go through the Eastern Europpean escorts but you have to book weeks or days earlier and pay 250 euros for one hour for a good quality. Same thing in Germany will cost you only 50 euros.

I know a lot of couples who came in Paris and hope they could get some thrilling experiences in the clubs in Pigalle but they have been ripped off with overprices bottles of Champagne.

For couples I would suggest the swinger clubs which are outside Paris but then again the taxi will rip them off because the clubs are located far away from the city center.


Having lived on the border between France and Germany, I can only say that a place like Palace in Frankfurt is a Godsend, when one compares it with the shit service one encounters in the red light district of Paris. By that I mean Pigalle. Back in 2004 I had some luck in Pigalle, negociating a 30 minute fuck for 100 euros, but since then it has been rip off city. Last night was my latest crappy experience: After paying 150 euros for two Champagne bottles, the price shared with a friend, the house in question tried to charge me 750 euros for my share for one of the two bottles. They insisted it was an error and I believed them because they tried to cancel the payment. So I must cancel my American credit card because of THEIR fuck up, and when the girl I was with "invited" me to the room, she was uneasy about my removing my pants and shoes. I had just paid her. 150 euros and we did not fuck.compare that with the Palace in Frankfurt, where you can meet some really nice gals who take their time and only charge you 50 euros per HOUR and I say that any complaints about this fine Frankfurt establishment are hogwash. I look oh so forward to returning and meeting with Kim and Phylis. Fuck Paris. An overpriced lovely city for sure. But overprices and annoying.

Dreams
03-04-08, 12:15
Hi Drew,

Paris is not a city for sex mongering.

Even if you go through the local websites and find Asians girls in the 13th district, ready to fuck for 150 e, you still get very disappointed when you get there and see their face and body. Most of the time the pictures are fake and do not correspond to the reality.

If you want a good service in Paris you should go through the Eastern Europpean escorts but you have to book weeks or days earlier and pay 250 euros for one hour for a good quality. Same thing in Germany will cost you only 50 euros.

I know a lot of couples who came in Paris and hope they could get some thrilling experiences in the clubs in Pigalle but they have been ripped off with overprices bottles of Champagne.

For couples I would suggest the swinger clubs which are outside Paris but then again the taxi will rip them off because the clubs are located far away from the city center.

And leave us enjoy the Palace!!

KentsBest
03-06-08, 13:17
Hi there,

I am a total newbie to FKK's but having read lots on here think its time I went to one.

I am from London and can quickly get to Frankfurt so thought FKK Palace a good one to try first.

But a few questions:

1) Is it near FRA centre and easy to get to?
2) Whats the cost? To get in and for time with girls?
3) Still not sure on how the whole FKK process works - is it group sex or private?
4) Is FKK Palace a good one to start with?
5) I was thinking of going over a weekend, so arrive in FRA on Sat, do the club Sat eve and return Sun, is this a good idea or is a Sat a poor day
6) How many girls are usually at the clubs?
7) Lastly, my big passion is girls in stockings / lingerie, would this be fulfilled for me at the clubs?

Thanks for any suggestions

Cheers

Paul

Dreams
03-06-08, 19:43
Answers to all your questions can be found in the forum.
I strongly suggest you spend some time reading the forum,. to avoid disappointments which inevitably threatens any newbie in a FKK.
As soon as you will enter, all the sharks will notice that you are a newbie..
So just do some homework, and you will enjoy much more.

Anyway, I have answered a few things below, but that should not deter you to read all the good posts left by the specialists (I am not one of them...)
Hi there,

I am a total newbie to FKK's but having read lots on here think its time I went to one.

I am from London and can quickly get to Frankfurt so thought FKK Palace a good one to try first.

But a few questions:

1) Is it near FRA centre and easy to get to? 20 min by taxy form airport, and 20 min by Ubahn form central station
2) Whats the cost? To get in and for time with girls? entrance 75 E and 50 per basic 30 min session
3) Still not sure on how the whole FKK process works - is it group sex or private? Too long to explain....
4) Is FKK Palace a good one to start with? some will tell you "no" because there are more sharks , but that's where I started, and i like it...
5) I was thinking of going over a weekend, so arrive in FRA on Sat, do the club Sat eve and return Sun, is this a good idea or is a Sat a poor day Don't kow
6) How many girls are usually at the clubs? around 15 early pm, can go up to 50+ in the evening
7) Lastly, my big passion is girls in stockings / lingerie, would this be fulfilled for me at the clubs? Minday is "stockings days and wednesday dessous day

Thanks for any suggestions

Cheers

Paul

Mike De H
03-06-08, 20:49
But...Palace ain't what it use to be.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Ah, Palace, Palace, Palace.... "To B. or not B.V. that is the question."

Mind you, back in the old days, I really knew people who could mis-quote.

Warsteiner
03-06-08, 21:17
Hi there,

I am a total newbie to FKK's but having read lots on here think its time I went to one.

I am from London and can quickly get to Frankfurt so thought FKK Palace a good one to try first.

But a few questions:

1) Is it near FRA centre and easy to get to?
2) Whats the cost? To get in and for time with girls?
3) Still not sure on how the whole FKK process works - is it group sex or private?
4) Is FKK Palace a good one to start with?
5) I was thinking of going over a weekend, so arrive in FRA on Sat, do the club Sat eve and return Sun, is this a good idea or is a Sat a poor day
6) How many girls are usually at the clubs?
7) Lastly, my big passion is girls in stockings / lingerie, would this be fulfilled for me at the clubs?

Thanks for any suggestions

Cheers

Paul

1. Yes you can get the tube to Industriehof and the club is just around the corner.
2. €75 for entry and then €50 per 30 mins with the girls. Extras (BBBJ, CIM, etc.) normally cost €50 extra and, depending upon the girl, anal may be €100 extra. It's always best to ask first.
3. Private in rooms but you can have a public session in the kino if you want although expect a crowd to gather.
4. No, the place is full or sharks and even seasoned veterans can be ripped-off. Read the forum and try to avoid the sharks if you can.
5. Sat is a good day as there will be lots of women. Also check if there is a Messe on in FRA as this will be an indication of how many men will be present.
6. On a sat probably up to 60 but maybe more. If there is a Messe on then there will be a lot of men in the club so more women will work
7. Not in FRA. Wed is lingerie day but the rest of the week the girls will be naked. The girls in the clubs in NRW will normally wear lingerie each day.

Have fun

Toscana
03-06-08, 22:46
I am a total newbie to FKK's but having read lots on here think its time I went to one. Hey, life begins eventually even for people from Kent. :-) My advice would be to take a whole day on Weds (lingerie), and take your time. Find your feet during the day, when there are fewer girls, and fewer sharks. If you've got energy and money left for the evening, the second shift arriving around 16.00 will probably blow you away, and you'll be happier dealing with the girls.

When you've done that, get your transport maps out, ditch Palace and next time go off to Oase.

Read the reports of distinction, choose your club, and read on. It's the only way to feel comfortable. Reading the forum's what I did, an age ago, and I'm still shedding euros like there's no tomorrow.
Good luck

Vito Corleone
03-08-08, 01:25
Hi there,

I am a total newbie to FKK's but having read lots on here think its time I went to one.

I am from London and can quickly get to Frankfurt so thought FKK Palace a good one to try first.

But a few questions:

1) Is it near FRA centre and easy to get to?
2) Whats the cost? To get in and for time with girls?
3) Still not sure on how the whole FKK process works - is it group sex or private?
4) Is FKK Palace a good one to start with?
5) I was thinking of going over a weekend, so arrive in FRA on Sat, do the club Sat eve and return Sun, is this a good idea or is a Sat a poor day
6) How many girls are usually at the clubs?
7) Lastly, my big passion is girls in stockings / lingerie, would this be fulfilled for me at the clubs?

Thanks for any suggestions

Cheers

PaulIf you like lingerie, go to World on Tuesday, Palace on Wednesday & Oase on Thursday.

Lennox
03-09-08, 09:21
I visited Palace twice in late February. It was my first trip to Germany and first time to FKK. I've been to many monger destinations around the world in Asia and South America and I was curious how the famous FKKs would stack up against other places.

From visits to Palace, Oase, Flamingo Island and World I was able to get an overall idea of what FKKs are like. My conclusion is that FKKs are very efficient and safe brothels for a newbie to visit but a little lacking in passion or some intangible when you have sex in this environment. The Germany efficiency and the fact that all the girls are imported from foreign countries means this is the most commercialized sexual experience. These are all hardened pros who have come here to earn money and make as much as possible. You will not find many part time cuties just looking to pay for some college. These are girls who have come all the way to Germany from wherever they originated to get paid for sex and do it as often as possible with as many guys as possible. The amount of mileage on the girls each day could be staggering as the as the sessions are all timed 30 minutes and the pressure is on to get the guy to the room. One time I was able to watch a girl go back and forth with about 5 guys during my 3 hours in FKK Oase.
During my two visits to Palace I did 7 girls and was able to sample many different types of girls and get a good measure of the personality and style of many of the pros working there.

I am not usually attracted to black women but there was a very sweet French Caribbean girl working that was actually one of the best girls I've had in a while. She had the smoothest skin and the easiest smile and gave the most pleasant massage. Easily one of the best sessions of the trip. She also hung out in the main lounge and was really cool to talk to.

Unfortunately as others have mentioned the really good looking Romanian girls can be terrible service. I saw two Romanian girls both about 19 yrs old, but both very rushed and terrible service. One of which was actually so rushed I gave up and didn't even come. The other was a tall big boobed girl who was so emotionally distant but was a really great looking girl. She was kind of girl that asks if you’re done and then gets up and puts her clothes on, not the most sensual way of ending things.

The other girls I saw that were nice were from Poland and Colombia. I couldnt believe after spending many weeks in Colombia I was seeing a Colombian girl in Germany, but I figure why not take advantage of a beautiful girl...even though I was mostly hoping to see Eastern European girls on this trip.

Palace food was so so, the facilities were nice and there was ample space to relax, compared to Oase which was incredibly crowded on my visit.

Nick The G
03-09-08, 11:00
My conclusion is that FKKs are very efficient and safe brothels for a newbie to visit but a little lacking in passion or some intangible when you have sex in this environment. "Safe" and "intangible"/"passion" don't go together that well.
Visiting a brothel, we pay
a.) for using a human body and we pay
b.) for the "freedom" to not relate (emotionally) to the human being in the human body.
We don't want to relate, but we want passion! That is a paradox!
We will get as much passion as we carry in ourselves! Independant of circumstances.


The Germany efficiency and the fact that all the girls are imported from foreign countries means this is the most commercialized sexual experience. Sorry, I don't understand at all how you - by combining these facts - come to this conclusion. You didn't meet any german girls there? You think, german efficiency combined with german *****s would be a less commercialized sexual experience??
After all, it is the girls working place, for them it is business, business, business! They don't look for passion or romance "in this environment"!


These are girls who have come all the way to Germany from wherever they originated to get paid for sex and do it as often as possible with as many guys as possible. And the other half of the gang? These are men who have come all the way to Germany from wherever they originated to pay for sex and do it as often as possible with as many girls as possible. ;-)
You looked into a mirror, did you re-cock-nize yourself?

Hessen Bub
03-09-08, 11:12
After all, it is the girls working place, for them it is business, business, business! They don't look for passion or romance "in this environment"!

And this you should never forget! There's a lot of very good actresses in this business, some of them have earned an Oscar! What some of them look for, is a guy with some money, not a complete asshole to get them out of the business. Which should not be mistaken for romance, passion or love.

And yes, sometimes there is love and passion in the clubs. It is rare, hard to find and even harder to maintain.

HB

Ekliges Lauern
03-09-08, 16:34
The amount of mileage on the girls each day could be staggering as the as the sessions are all timed 30 minutes and the pressure is on to get the guy to the room. One time I was able to watch a girl go back and forth with about 5 guys during my 3 hours in FKK Oase.

Umm, to fully enjoy the FKK experience, you need to get over the puritanical hangups of how many times a girl has sex in a day. The ones going to the room constantly are generally the ones giving he best service.

I was at Colesuem last night, and after a very pleasant session with a pretty young Polish lass, she was trying to coax me into an encore performance (no doubt to extend the session, but who am I to complain). I explained to her that it was my third time and was likely empty and at the very minimum would require rest. She told me that she had just started, and that in the past six months she had had no sex (no boyfriend), but had had sex seven times today and was feeling a little overwelmed but definately horney. All and all a pleasant experience and I would repeat with her as I liked her attitude.

Moral of the story, if you are in an FKK, you better get over any hangups of how many times a girl has had sex if you want to enjoy the experience. And yes, for them it is a job. The best ones do it with a smile on their face and make you feel like the enjoy your company.

Lennox
03-10-08, 08:37
Umm, to fully enjoy the FKK experience, you need to get over the puritanical hangups of how many times a girl has sex in a day. The ones going to the room constantly are generally the ones giving he best service.

I agree, and for 50 Euros you get what you pay for, cheap sex in a safe environment. Lets be honest there are some limits to how much you can enjoy the sex with the girl if she has another man's cum is in her hair and she had a sweaty guy all over her. I really hope these girls take seriously their showers and cleanliness after a session. Without going into too much vivid description, lets just say I would not want to be the next guy kissing or touching one of the girls I had a 1 hour hardcore session with...I would not want to be the next guy to have her after a dirty guy went to town on her and she didn't cleanup carefully afterwards.


Moral of the story, if you are in an FKK, you better get over any hangups of how many times a girl has had sex if you want to enjoy the experience. And yes, for them it is a job. The best ones do it with a smile on their face and make you feel like the enjoy your company.

It has zero to do with moral hangups for me, and more to do with basic hygiene and the quickness of the standard sessions.

Lennox
03-10-08, 08:47
Nick, I see your perspective. Maybe my post came across as overly negative because I did have a fun time at the FKKs, especially World. I went to Palace twice and I wish I had been able to take photos and post in more detail about each of my encounters, because the level of service did vary dramtically from girl to girl.

I did 4 girls the first day at Palace after getting off a 10 hour flight. I probably would have kept up that sex-Olympics pace but sex with condom takes more and more effort to come each time and I mostly did 2 a day thereafter.

Maybe I'm "losing the edge" but I found it harder to get as into the girls in the atmosphere, especially at Oase. Maybe it's more about where I am right now than a statement about the FKK. I'm used to going to countries in South America where the girls were more likely to spend extended time with me, but I noticed on those trips I was not seeing as many girls as in the past. The stopwatch style of FKK really is for the super-horny guy. Maybe I should have tried to take one of the nicer girls out of the club for an overnight, I heard it can be done for 500 Euro...does that sound right?

Nick The G
03-10-08, 12:36
The stopwatch style of FKK really is for the super-horny guy.Relax and look at this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/omalingue/1371742393/in/set-72157600296016351/

The stop watch style rules only if you want 50 Euro sessions with as many different girls as possible.
Once you know a girl and you stay with her more often and/or for longer time, it will be a complete different situation, especially if the "chemistry" between you and her is o.k.


Maybe I should have tried to take one of the nicer girls out of the club for an overnight, I heard it can be done for 500 Euro...does that sound right?The FKK-Club environment is very good if you want to meet friends and talk, drink, eat and relax all day long. With lots of naked girls around. And have half an hour of sex in between from time to time.

If you want to stay together with one special woman for a longer time, imho this FKK-Club environment is punishing, a mental stress! It feels like being a tourist in an all-inclusive resort somewhere in the most beautiful middle of nowhere and the next town is minimum 70 miles away, you cannot escape easily. Maybe it feels a little different in summer, when e.g. in FKK-World you can be somewhere out in the garden in a remote place under a shady tree.

If you want to spend money, call an escort service in Germany. This is a different world. There you will meet educated lovely and charming beautiful ladies and for sure you have a nice evening and night with style and good conversation, something that in many - if not most - cases you cannot expect at all from the young romanian or bulgarian girls.

Isn't it astonishing, that so many of us educated hard core business guys go into these FKK-Clubs to meet east-european girls there, who - in many cases - have almost no education and style and cannot communicate more than five-ten words in german or english? Why should we want to spend a long(er) time with such women, after the core business (fucking) has been done?
In the end, we are glad when we find some friends in these otherwise pretty boring places, that we can chat with.

Dedalus
03-10-08, 16:11
The stop watch style rules only if you want 50 Euro sessions with as many different girls as possible.
Once you know a girl and you stay with her more often and/or for longer time, it will be a complete different situation, especially if the "chemistry" between you and her is o.k.



Hey Nick,

Probably true what you say here, but this is where I and many palace lovers and defenders part ways.

Many sage players like yourself state, and quite correctly that this is a business for the girls and those who fool themselves into thinking otherwise are missing the point of these clubs.

I couldn't agree more. However, if it IS indeed a business, then why should I or anyone else reward poor business practices with my patronage?

A "stopwatch-style" session was mostly unthinkable back in the day at clubs like Babylon, and the early days of PHG, Oase. Even at clubs like Atlantis and World, this type of attitude was far from the norm. Even in today's club atmosphere, palace is the only club where the "stopwatch-style" sessions are the norm rather than the exception and it is the only place where that attitude seems to be supported by the management. The people who run the place are aware of the complaints. They simply do not care.

This would be unthinkable at a place like Bernd's.

So, to get a good session from many of the girls at palace, I have to invest at least a 100 or do so many times before the concept of quality enters the picture? There are KFZ Werkstätten that understand how ass backwards THAT is.

I have absolutely no problem with extended sessions. But that is a earned reward for quality service, and while a slight emotional click between myself and a girl is nice, it is not a necessity. Plus, as you have said, this is a business for the girls. I am not naive enough to think that the emotional click will increase dependent on how many Euros I spend.

Lucia at Oase could have had my business time and time again had she been a better first session. Pretty short-sighted business sense on her part if you ask me. Same with Andra at Palace, and a number of others.

Just my two cents.

Cheerio,

Dedalus

Nick The G
03-10-08, 16:32
However, if it IS indeed a business, then why should I or anyone else reward poor business practices with my patronage? No rewards for poor attitude or poor business, I fully agree!
But once you fully accept it is business, you still have the choice between, let's say, fast food or some nice time in a good restauant. And we know prices will differ there.:-)
Problem could be, that we expect fast food prices but want the atmosphere, service and quality of a good restaurant! Some of us travel all around the world in search for fulfillment of this dream and then ...?
We recognize we found it but it is too far away from home!

Chaudry
03-10-08, 19:38
No rewards for poor attitude or poor business, I fully agree!
But once you fully accept it is business, you still have the choice between, let's say, fast food or some nice time in a good restauant. And we know prices will differ there.:-)

Problem could be, that we expect fast food prices but want the atmosphere, service and quality of a good restaurant! Some of us travel all around the world in search for fulfillment of this dream and then?

We recognize we found it but it is too far away from home!I disagree that we want fast food prices and high quality resturant service. These girls get paid 100eur (no taxes! ) and hour which is more than what a lot of good quality lawyers, accountants and bankers make. All we want is that thwy just fulfill there end of the contract I. E give 30 mins and give reasonable service. You would expect that from any other professioanl also.

Hessen Bub
03-10-08, 19:56
Isn't it astonishing, that so many of us educated hard core business guys go into these FKK-Clubs to meet east-european girls there, who - in many cases - have almost no education and style and cannot communicate more than five-ten words in german or english?

There's some (not too many, but a few) intelligent pretty girls (woman) with a good sense of humor in German FKKs. You just have to find them. And if you hook up with them and if the chemistry is right, it can lead do this:


Maybe I should have tried to take one of the nicer girls out of the club for an overnight , I heard it can be done for 500 Euro...does that sound right?

It is possible to meet girls outside. For an overnight, for a couple of hours, for half a day or a full day, for differing prices depending on what you wanna do and depending on the girl. And it is also possible to get this without paying anything. No money, no obligations, just some fun, straight sex and a good time for both sides. Maybe not for a "one-time-customer", but for a regular.

HB

Nick The G
03-10-08, 20:08
It is possible to meet girls outside.Never forget: the world outside is full of girls! There are much more girls "outside" than "inside" :-)

Dedalus
03-10-08, 20:52
No rewards for poor attitude or poor business, I fully agree!
But once you fully accept it is business, you still have the choice between, let's say, fast food or some nice time in a good restauant. And we know prices will differ there.:-)
Problem could be, that we expect fast food prices but want the atmosphere, service and quality of a good restaurant! Some of us travel all around the world in search for fulfillment of this dream and then ...?
We recognize we found it but it is too far away from home!

Yeah, but that was always a great thing about the FKK scene. The quality of service was (often still is) far beyond "fast-food" quality. and, for what it's worth, I've had pricey meals in Paris that where like eating dog food, whereas I have paid fast-food prices for tremendous meals at truck stop restaurants in southern France and Turkish joints throughout Europe . Point being, price is not a guarantee of quality.

I do not know beans about the German escort scene and really have no interest in it. Truth is, that could turn out to be an expensive mistake. I'd rather make a mistake in the clubs. Little harm done to the wallet.

Also, some of that fast food is pretty satisfying. Beats the hell out of some of that "Handkäs mit Musik" or some other odd things that have presented themselves to me under the guise of "food" in a number of expensive restaurants.

Not saying that you can compare Burger King to Chez Paul, but it ain't a mortal lock that your average high-browed, ritzy eatery will be the bomb. I once tried out Jamie Oliver's joint in Amsterdam and I would rather eat at a Wendy's any day of the week. What a bunch of crap!!! Overpriced crap at that.

What is disturbing is to watch the FKK scene go down in quality while going up in price. If I wanted a half-assed RLD rip-off type session, then I would go to the RLDs. I really do not mind rewarding quality with repeat business and financial incentive. I find that it is hard to do this type of business at palace.

Cheers,

Dedalus, about to head to the local Kebab stand around the corner.

Lennox
03-11-08, 16:46
The best thing about FKK and these style clubs is that you get to "interview" the girl before the session. You can see what she really looks like, see her demeanor and you can largely tell if it will be a good choice. With escort you never know until they walk into the door. I've had some incredible 'high end' escorts too, that would never work out of a brothel style club, but i've also had better luck with these style clubs than escorts in general.

Everhard
03-11-08, 21:33
I've had pricey meals in Paris that where like eating dog food, whereas I have paid fast-food prices for tremendous meals at truck stop restaurants in southern France and Turkish joints throughout Europe . Point being, price is not a guarantee of quality.I couldn't agree more, but please note that you and I now are talking taste of the food. No contradiction with Nick's remark
atmosphere, service and quality of a good restaurant which concerns the other values, perhaps more esoteric, such as background music, porcelain or lack of riff-raff.


These girls get paid 100eur (no taxes! ) and hour which is more than what a lot of good quality lawyers, accountants and bankers make. All we want is that thwy just fulfill there end of the contract I.Of course we want them to fulfill their part of the deal, but I think your price tag is flawed. When the girls can play Tetris and gossip, still earning 100 euro an hour like any other professional, then there is reason to complain. Or rather, switch career.

All For Bb
03-12-08, 00:56
New York Governer pay $5500 for one hour with prostitute (5'5'' tall young brunett) and could last job and family. I guess, as a governer, he has no freedom to travel to FKK. I think many of fkk girls 5'5'' young brunett are very beautiful, one hour costs only 75 euro -100euro. Happy not to be a governar or such type of celeberty.

J Long
03-12-08, 01:13
I have had the great pleasure of taking out a girl from Oase for dinner, drinks straight sex and she absolutely refused any money. She said she only accepts money at the Club. As HB said I had become a regular over a 2 year period (3 trips a year from NY) and we clicked. She almost come over to US to stay for a while but left club and is in steady normal relationship. We stay in touch and it makes us both feel good.

PS I am in NY and know the Gov a little. Wish I could have told him about fkk's and saved him a lot of money and grief.

JL



It is possible to meet girls outside. For an overnight, for a couple of hours, for half a day or a full day, for differing prices depending on what you wanna do and depending on the girl. And it is also possible to get this without paying anything. No money, no obligations, just some fun, straight sex and a good time for both sides. Maybe not for a "one-time-customer", but for a regular.

HB[/QUOTE]

Hessen Bub
03-13-08, 15:24
Just an update: Dinner is now served at 7pm and 11pm

HB

R The Man
03-13-08, 15:55
Had a quick visit to Palace today during a long stopover. Visited in the afternoon for the first time (12 noon to about 3 pm) - very slow with about 8 girls and same number of clients. Still, seems a bit more relaxed. Had 2 sessions, one with an Italian (not Romanian) Nicoletta - slim, frizzy beached blonde hair. Very friendly, had a good (but not great) BBBJ - a little soft for me, but her tongue action was terrific. We stayed in the kino, had some good cowgirl and then I finished in her mouth - superb.

After recharging, I was resting in the kino when Irina came by. She's a bit taller than I like, but when she lies down on top of you with those gorgeous C's laying on your balls, looks up at you with those beautiful eyes, and asks gently if she can suck your cock, well, who was I to refuse. And I'm glad I had her - her BBBJ was fantastic, great tongue and mouth action, and I finished again with a huge cum. She's a real doll.

So, two good experiences at Palace. I am batting about 7 of 8 for good experiences, so will return.

Ortos
03-13-08, 17:19
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Ortos
03-13-08, 17:20
Had 2 sessions, one with an Italian (not Romanian) Nicoletta - slim, frizzy beached blonde hair. Very friendly, had a good (but not great) BBBJ - a little soft for me, but her tongue action was terrific. We stayed in the kino, had some good cowgirl and then I finished in her mouth - superb.




Why do you say she is not Romanian? She is as Romanian as you get! She's also been in the game for longer than most. She was one of my first sessions at Atlantis way back in 2001 or 2002, I think. Anyway, I was at Palace one afternoon last week and there she was, looking a little worn-out since her Atlantis days, but still with that obnoxious high squeaky voice. Not my cup of tea anymore. One session way back when was enough. But do bear in mind that almost every Romanian girl who works at these clubs for a while always claims to Italian.

But I agree that the afternoons at Palace can be very nice and relaxing. I found a decent selection of approx. 12 to 15 girls at around 16.00 on a Tues afternoon last week. Included in the mix was one of my favourite regular older girls, a Russian named Vannessa, whose looks may not be what they once were but performance was way up there...She's actually from Belarus, but long in Germany; probably married here. There was also a quite attractive, young, athletic, dark-haired Hungarian babe that caught my eye that afternoon. There were several other Russians too. But in the afternoons generally don't expect the same kind of eye-candy you get at this club after 20.00. But a very good vibe at Palace during the afternoons...

Ortos

Chicafan
03-13-08, 17:49
Why do you say she is not Romanian? She is as Romanian as you get! She's also been in the game for longer than most.

So what you mean is that if she told him she was Romanian she was lying? At least she had the decency not to cast dispersions on Italian girls by being a poor session after setting the trap.

Toscana
03-13-08, 20:57
Don't understand Chicafan's comment... ?? Whatever. I first met Nicoletta at Atlantis too, and thought she was a poor lay, not up to it technically. EVERY time she sees me she tries to win me over, every time I brush her off. It's almost a joke routine now. At least she doesn't get mad.

She's definitely 100% Romanian, because there's a regular Romanian punter at Palace who reckoned he'd been with her 50 (FIFTY) times. Horses for courses, but I reckon with her BBBJ technique he must have a dick made of canvas.

Dedalus
03-14-08, 02:43
Don't understand Chicafan's comment... ?? Whatever. I first met Nicoletta at Atlantis too, and thought she was a poor lay, not up to it technically. EVERY time she sees me she tries to win me over, every time I brush her off. It's almost a joke routine now. At least she doesn't get mad.

She's definitely 100% Romanian, because there's a regular Romanian punter at Palace who reckoned he'd been with her 50 (FIFTY) times. Horse for courses, but I reckon with her BBBJ technique he must have a dick made of canvas.


I remember her. She's still doing this? Some people never learn.

Italian is often an alternative "Herkunft" for these Romanians. Italian and Spanish. I had one stinker at World once tell me that she was Polish. When I mentioned this to Jacqueline I thought she was going to kill the poor thing.

Btw, Ortos; I will get the 411 on Leila to you soon. She is the top treat at World now IMHO.

Cheers,

Dedalus

R The Man
03-14-08, 17:34
I remember her. She's still doing this? Some people never learn.

Italian is often an alternative "Herkunft" for these Romanians. Italian and Spanish. I had one stinker at World once tell me that she was Polish. When I mentioned this to Jacqueline I thought she was going to kill the poor thing.

Dedalus.

Romanian, Italian, whatever. The fact is that she had a very friendly and nice approach, lots of DFK and attention, and during the session was very accommodating, asking me if I wanted to switch positions, and not making a big deal out of finishing quickly or pushing the upsell. So, in my books that is good service.

R.

Dreams
03-14-08, 18:16
Why do you say she is not Romanian? She is as Romanian as you get! She's also been in the game for longer than most. She was one of my first sessions at Atlantis way back in 2001 or 2002, I think. Anyway, I was at Palace one afternoon last week and there she was, looking a little worn-out since her Atlantis days, but still with that obnoxious high squeaky voice. Not my cup of tea anymore. One session way back when was enough. But do bear in mind that almost every Romanian girl who works at these clubs for a while always claims to Italian.

But I agree that the afternoons at Palace can be very nice and relaxing. I found a decent selection of approx. 12 to 15 girls at around 16.00 on a Tues afternoon last week. Included in the mix was one of my favourite regular older girls, a Russian named Vannessa, whose looks may not be what they once were but performance was way up there...She's actually from Belarus, but long in Germany; probably married here. There was also a quite attractive, young, athletic, dark-haired Hungarian babe that caught my eye that afternoon. There were several other Russians too. But in the afternoons generally don't expect the same kind of eye-candy you get at this club after 20.00. But a very good vibe at Palace during the afternoons...

Ortos
I was also at Palace last month one afternoon between 2 planes. By the way, I had exactly 6 hours between landing (12) and take off (6), and managed confortably 3 sessions.
Nicoletta was there, and I remember her also as my first Palace girl , some 3 years ago. At this time, she did not hid her Romanian origin... I recall vaguely an OK performance, but I never repeated with her.

Back to my recent afternoon: yes, I much prefer the afternoons. No rush, everyone is more relaxed. There was a very good line up, probaly 15-20 girls, most 7 and above, and hardly 10-15 punters. A buyer market. Lots of time to indulge in conversation with the girls. My first session was with Angelica, the slim Russian, surely not the most attractive, but she definitively delivers in the room. Then a greek girl with big boobs in the kino, and I can't remember the name of the 3rd.

Definitively a good way to spend a few hours between planes....

Toodeloo
03-15-08, 18:18
My work bring me to Frankfurt from time to time, and on every occation I use to visit Palace. There have always been different quality of the girls, but the two last times the quality have been really low! I'm going back early april, and wonder if it's time to take a taxi to Burgholzhausen, and try out Oase.

What do you guys think, shall I have a go at Oase?

Drew 0303
03-16-08, 01:27
so back at the palace and i realised once again that you should better get in as early as possible to take full of advantage of the 75 euro entry fee. i had some work so chose only to take a peek at 11h30 pm from the nearby ibis, and there was kim. a jessica alba lookalike and really nice. we kissed alot and had a great session for 30 minutes. but the best experience i had at the palace was with a bulgarian blond, but she was not around that shift - i was told that she was there earlier. shoot. thank goodness for places like the palace. after a rather harrowing experience in paris, this is where you need to go for mongering.

Sebastiane
03-16-08, 02:25
So, this was the fourth time I've been to Palace since moving to Ffm. And it was the best so far. This is also the first time I've gone in the evening.

It was a Saturday evening, about 8 pm when I got there. After paying 75 euros to get in I got changed and had some of the rather good buffet, sitting down and watching the ladies as I ate. Since I'm not a newbie anymore at this mongering malarky I am no longer an eager beaver and now take my time and say No when a girl I am not interested in becomes aggressive in trying to make me go to a room. To be fair I have not had any such bad experiences so far in Palace--until today. I was scanning the girls--it was still quite thin for quality at that time--mostly 7, 8s--and one girl whom I smiled at took it as an opening and came and sat next to me. She told me she was Sabrina from Venezuela. Well after being pleasant for about 5 minutes and making smalltalk including a couple of kisses on the lips (NOT DFK) she said to me, 'So lets go to the room.' I said sorry I am not interested yet and am still just digesting my food. I was just being friendsly. Suddenly her tone changed and she said, 'Give me 25 euros.' I said for what? We haven't gone to a room or anything. She tried to tell me that if she kisses me i have to go to the room. I said you kissed me I didn't ask you to and I am not a first-timer and I know the rules. She got angry and called me 'ugly' before storming off. I just brushed it off but she is one to watch. Tall, dark haired, with fake boobs, she is really aggressive.

After that start I needed some time to clear my head and so I just sipped coffee and watched the nude and semi-nude women. Not a bad way to spend time on Saturday! I was approached by quite a few girls but I turned them all down --politely of course and with a smile. None of them minded. One pretty girl with an amazing body from Ukraine told me it is 100 to come to the room with me. Do you want to or not? I said no thanks not at the moment and she was rude and told me to go away as she was working!!! The bloody cheek!

Luckily at that point I spotted the first 9/10 of the evening. I immediately approached her--a tall dark haired beauty called Sydney from Eastern Europe somewhere (Hungary?) with a great figure. I told her I wanted to go to a room with her and she obliged. The session inside was okay: friendly without being too enthusiastic. Still I felt happy to be fucking a girl with such looks!
BBBJ, some pussy eating, missionary, her on top etc. and I came. Talked for a bit afterwards. A pleasant experience without being mindblowing.

Then needed some time to recuperate before Round 2. Was just sitting and watching when I spotted the wonderful Sandra (red-head from Germany: tall, 7 for looks, good figure but 10 for performance and 10 for personality.) Well told her I was glad to see her! She was with another guy but I booked her for next!

The hour long session with her was a total GFE as usual and helped to erase the unpleasant experience earlier. 10/10. What a girl!
Also left me totally exhausted!!!

I was then about to leave -- I had already showered but then saw a whole new batch of buffet and, being hungry after the fuckfest with Sandra, decided to get some food and eat. I happened to sit down in the only available table-seat. Next to a gorgeous creature whom I had not seen till then. What a stroke of luck. We just began talking and she was so friendly, intelligent and beautiful--stunningly pretty fair: she had that rare 'je ne sais quoi' which some girls have and others, just as pretty, don't. Her name is Felice and she is from Sophia in Hungary. Well I even told her I would love to spend time with her but I was exhausted and about to leave after my meal. She was so understanding and nice--and God-damn pretty!--that I couldn't take my eyes off her. I asked her if I could kiss her and she said no --only in the room. Well by now I was getting energised again and I still had 50 euros off my budgeted cost for tonight left. I thought, even though I'm knackered, I'll have a session with this angelic creature. So I did and -well, let's just say it is the best sex of my life and even BETTER than Sandra--the added bonus being her 10/10 looks. Total GFE. I was tired so couldn't cum and we were both drenched in sweat after 1 hour of rigorous, passionate, sex in different positions. We then cuddled and chatted like long-time lovers. Wow! She didn't want me to leave without cumming so I eventually came with her playing with my arse as I jerked off but I didn't mind by that point. I would have stayed another hour or 10 if my budget allowed. I already spent 100 euros more than intended--but Felice is worth every cent! Wow! My fave. Palace girl without doubt (Sandra is now second.) 10/10!

So a disappointing evening ended on an all-time high! Took a cab back at 1.30 am!

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Sebastiane
03-16-08, 02:34
So, this was the fourth time I've been to Palace since moving to Ffm. And it was the best so far. This is also the first time I've gone in the evening.

It was a Saturday evening, about 8 pm when I got there. After paying 75 euros to get in I got changed and had some of the rather good buffet, sitting down and watching the ladies as I ate. Since I'm not a newbie anymore at this mongering malarky I am no longer an eager beaver and now take my time and say No when a girl I am not interested in becomes aggressive in trying to make me go to a room. To be fair I have not had any such bad experiences so far in Palace--until today. I was scanning the girls--it was still quite thin for quality at that time--mostly 7, 8s--and one girl whom I smiled at took it as an opening and came and sat next to me. She told me she was Sabrina from Venezuela. Well after being pleasant for about 5 minutes and making smalltalk including a couple of kisses on the lips (NOT DFK) she said to me, 'So lets go to the room.' I said sorry I am not interested yet and am still just digesting my food. I was just being friendsly. Suddenly her tone changed and she said, 'Give me 25 euros.' I said for what? We haven't gone to a room or anything. She tried to tell me that if she kisses me i have to go to the room. I said you kissed me I didn't ask you to and I am not a first-timer and I know the rules. She got angry and called me 'ugly' before storming off. I just brushed it off but she is one to watch. Tall, dark haired, with fake boobs, she is really aggressive.

After that start I needed some time to clear my head and so I just sipped coffee and watched the nude and semi-nude women. Not a bad way to spend time on Saturday! I was approached by quite a few girls but I turned them all down --politely of course and with a smile. None of them minded. One pretty girl with an amazing body from Ukraine told me it is 100 to come to the room with me. Do you want to or not? I said no thanks not at the moment and she was rude and told me to go away as she was working!!! The bloody cheek!

Luckily at that point I spotted the first 9/10 of the evening. I immediately approached her--a tall dark haired beauty called Sydney from Eastern Europe somewhere (Hungary?) with a great figure. I told her I wanted to go to a room with her and she obliged. The session inside was okay: friendly without being too enthusiastic. Still I felt happy to be fucking a girl with such looks!
BBBJ, some pussy eating, missionary, her on top etc. and I came. Talked for a bit afterwards. A pleasant experience without being mindblowing.

Then needed some time to recuperate before Round 2. Was just sitting and watching when I spotted the wonderful Sandra (red-head from Germany: tall, 7 for looks, good figure but 10 for performance and 10 for personality.) Well told her I was glad to see her! She was with another guy but I booked her for next!

The hour long session with her was a total GFE as usual and helped to erase the unpleasant experience earlier. 10/10. What a girl!
Also left me totally exhausted!!!

I was then about to leave -- I had already showered but then saw a whole new batch of buffet and, being hungry after the fuckfest with Sandra, decided to get some food and eat. I happened to sit down in the only available table-seat. Next to a gorgeous creature whom I had not seen till then. What a stroke of luck. We just began talking and she was so friendly, intelligent and beautiful--stunningly pretty fair: she had that rare 'je ne sais quoi' which some girls have and others, just as pretty, don't. Her name is Felice and she is from Sophia in Hungary. Well I even told her I would love to spend time with her but I was exhausted and about to leave after my meal. She was so understanding and nice--and God-damn pretty!--that I couldn't take my eyes off her. I asked her if I could kiss her and she said no --only in the room. Well by now I was getting energised again and I still had 50 euros off my budgeted cost for tonight left. I thought, even though I'm knackered, I'll have a session with this angelic creature. So I did and -well, let's just say it is the best sex of my life and even BETTER than Sandra--the added bonus being her 10/10 looks. Total GFE. I was tired so couldn't cum and we were both drenched in sweat after 1 hour of rigorous, passionate, sex in different positions. We then cuddled and chatted like long-time lovers. Wow! She didn't want me to leave without cumming so I eventually came with her playing with my arse as I jerked off but I didn't mind by that point. I would have stayed another hour or 10 if my budget allowed. I already spent 100 euros more than intended--but Felice is worth every cent! Wow! My fave. Palace girl without doubt (Sandra is now second.) 10/10!

So a disappointing evening ended on an all-time high! Took a cab back at 1.30 am!

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Hessen Bub
03-16-08, 12:41
Her name is Felice and she is from Sophia in Hungary.

Never heard the name. Is she from Bulgaria or Hungary? Sofia/Sophia is the capital of Bulgaria. Do you have some more details on her looks?

HB

Sebastiane
03-16-08, 17:59
Sorry she is from Sophia which is definitely in Bulgaria and she was Bulgarian.
Tall, blonde, finely chiselled nose, mesmerising grey eyes, fair sized breasts, she wore a see-through black nighty.

Problemsolver
03-16-08, 19:40
Hi friends,

Here’S my promised report on my recent activity in FKK land.

I made the mistake, or not, of going to Oase the day before I came to Palace, thus my whole time at Palace I was comparing the differences. I must conclude that I found Oase preferable. By way of girls, their quality and shark-ness, or the lack thereof, there is no difference, at least nothing I can report about, it’s the surrounding ambiance that makes me lean towards Oase.

Palace, admittedly, does have some advantages. It is much closer to the city—the cab each way cost less than 15EUR. There’s a live DJ there at night—I was there on a Thursday night, can’t tell about other times. There is more public action, both at the keno, and at the lounges—I saw a guy getting a BJ on the swing opposite the elevated bar area. Food, for those who care (I tried. Took a plate, stood on line, and passed all trays before winding up at the dessert section. Somehow I didn’t find the food palatable, however, many people did seem to enjoy their plates, and it seems like all the girls too.) does look better, the selection larger, and you serve yourself, unlike Oase. Main thing I liked about the Palace is the fact that in the rooms there are sheets to cover the beds. I found that extremely pleasant, and might go back if only for that!

What I didn’t like about the Palace is the total atmosphere, which somehow reminded me of the standard US go-go bars. I can’t explain exactly what made me feel so, it might be the lighting, the dance poles. I’m not sure. The place itself is smaller too. It was cold there, so the outside pool and area wasn’t a disadvantage but I could imagine how Oase gets in the summer. Also, the smoking rooms are really small, and you feel choked there, unlike Oase where it’s big and open, and one can sit there the entire day, as I did.

I asked for a robe when I walked in, told the girl that it’s not my first time at an FKK, although it’s my first time here. She proceeded to give me the tour. More people at Place, I have noticed, are keen on wearing a robe rather than a towel. It might be because most mongers there are not regulars, or they find the robe convenient, as I have found it.

First girl I went with was Ramona, from Romania, I believe the pictures on the Palace website are accurate. She has a great body, with an even greater attitude before entering the room. Once there, after I told her that I’m not interested in a threesome she tried to up-sell CIM and other things. I insisted on a covered BJ and told here to give me whatever 50EUR can buy. Her English was good, and she clearly seemed upset. We proceeded to a good session, sort of, no complaints. But after paying her, and not handing her a tip that she required (solely because of the warnings I read on this forum) she asked me why I am so "geld geitzig" (-money hungry), I was shocked at first, but answered her "because I’m smarter than you", to which she had no choice but laugh.

It took me some time to recuperate. The second girl that took my fancy was a German, whose name I unfortunately forgot. She’s a tall short black haired woman. Dark skin, perfect body. Just utterly perfect, in my eyes. I could not resist. Tried to communicate in English at first, but had to switch to German, where she tried to improve my poor skills. In the room I envisioned a long session where she would have to work extra hard to make me cum. I had warned her before that I’m tied and lazy, and I’ll let her do ALL the work. She took my warning seriously and moved me up to heaven. I was done before the half hour was up, and seriously wanted to tip her. I decided rather to try another session with her later. Only I was too tired to try anything, and left not long after.

Overall, the experience was a great one. Nothing to complain about. I would certainly go back there, at times, but my main destination will be Oase, for the time being.

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Ericklein
03-17-08, 18:09
I was on my way to Asia and hat a long stop over in Frankfurt. I had chosen the long stop over! I arrived around 10.00 and hat a plane at 17.30. Long enough to play in Frankfurt. I took a taxi and headed to Palace. I entered around 11.30 if I remember well. The line up was very poor. I was afraid of this, because of the time. Maybe 5 or 6 girls of 5-6 face/body quality and so many customers as well. I sat at the bar and had a drink, exploring the scene. I didn't really enjoy was I was looking at till a girl showed up that was and 8+ in body and face. She came straight to me and since I was hungry for love and no other competition around, I accepted immidiately the offer and went to the Zimmer. She was from Spain as she said, named Salome. We had a good connection and she seemed to enjoy also the session. She gave me a very nice BBBJ, while I was enjoying the touch of her nice body. The only thing I didn't like was the faking of the enjoyment during the BBBJ. I think she was overdoing it a bid! She kissed very well and I had in general a very good GFE. We changed many positions and then went to every mans favorite doggy position. She asked me then to make anal sex. As a gentleman I didn't refuse such a wish to a lady. Of course I knew that they are always trying to upsell, but I don't often have the chance to f... such a nice ass. It was great anyway. She offered to give me a massage after the great sex. I knew that there was nothing better out there and we had a good time, so I accepted. After 30 minutes, the time was up and we left the room. -150 Euro for the beginning.

I went to relax on one of the swinging couches and stayed there for a while. Two girls came and sat in front of me. One of them was 9+ and the other one was fat with HUGE breast and not so pretty. The sexy one took off her bra and let her breast come out. It was a very becautiful breast and you could see that it was natural. She was very tall and in general very sexy girl to f.. around with. I was looking at her all the time, but she didn't react. Then I made the big mistake! I called her to come to me. There was no real connection, but I wanted to feel her body, so we went to the room. She told me she was from Hungary, but I don't remember name. She did what she had to do and I did what I wanted to do. Very cold and professional customer-prostitute relationship. No GFE and the feeling in general cold = 50 Euro
It was getting late and I was thinking to go to the airport already. I went to the bar for a last soft drink, when I was approached by a very sweet girl from Cuba. We chatted for a while and explained to ther that I was about to leave. She asked me about the flight and assured me that there was enough time for another session. I started to get weak! Then I told her that my friend was tired to get up again, but she assured me that her technik is too good and she would make him get up and dance! I agreed that with such a good offer, a gentleman should not say no to a lady! Off we went to the room. She hat a very sexy ass and gave me a very good BBBJ, while offering me her ass for playing with. She knew what I wanted. We hat a good time and it was a very good GFE. After I finished I was ready for the airport!

I just love long stop overs in Frankfurt guys!

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West By Sun
03-19-08, 08:40
IThe sexy one took off her bra and let her breast come out. It was a very becautiful breast and you could see that it was natural. She was very tall and in general very sexy girl to f.. around with. I was looking at her all the time, but she didn't react. Then I made the big mistake! I called her to come to me. There was no real connection, but I wanted to feel her body, so we went to the room. She told me she was from Hungary, but I don't remember name. She did what she had to do and I did what I wanted to do. Very cold and professional customer-prostitute relationship. No GFE and the feeling in general cold = 50 EuroI guess your 2nd girl from Hungary is Adriana.

Nick The G
03-19-08, 23:39
I guess your 2nd girl from Hungary is Adriana.Beautiful hungarina Adriana has enhanced breasts!
The other things could be true. She is in that business already for quite a while!
I haven't seen her for month, because I clearly prefer to go to FKK-WORLD.
Any other guys here who can report on the quality of her service in 2008?

Vito Corleone
03-20-08, 02:21
She was from Spain as she said, named Salome. We had a good connection and she seemed to enjoy also the session. She gave me a very nice BBBJ, while I was enjoying the touch of her nice body. The only thing I didn't like was the faking of the enjoyment during the BBBJ.

Salome is from Brazil & she was great until she tried to charge me 100 E for what she claimed to be 31 minutes. I was wearing my watch & I am no newbie, but she demanded the money & I refused. She gave me the look of death for the next 3 days. Be careful with Salome.

Gamma Ray 007
03-21-08, 13:13
Thanks to the many fine reports on this forum I felt equipped to pay a visit to the Palace on my way through Frankfurt yesterday. I tried not to think of all the negative reports and just be nice and have a good time.

I arrived about 5:30 on a Thursday evening and almost had the place to myself! All evening the girl/guy ratio was outstanding, and as many counseled, I took my time meeting girls, chatting, getting the feel of the place, etc., before making any commitments. My first trip to the bedrooms--which were amazing, by the way--was with Victoria, supposedly from Venezuela, although two other "Venezuelan" girls at the club didn't know who she was. In any event, she was cute, friendly, and very accomodating. I made it clear up front that I was interested in a standard half-hour with no upsells for any reason whatsover. That went so well I thought I had the system figured out, and continued to observe and meet ladies during my resting period.

I had hopes that the pole stage would be occupied, and it eventually was--at about 10:00--by two gals who were a bit of a disappointment. Even in an environment where most of the ladies are nude, or nearly so, I would expect a "take it off" aspect to a pole-dancing performance. No such luck--the topless amateur babe wiggled her hips well, but it was a performance that didn't go anywhere.

I had intended for my second date to be with Lena, but I couldn't find her for a solid hour so opted for another gal high on my do-list, Sandra, a tall and slim blond girl from Aachen. I explained exactly what I wanted--lots of look, touch, etc., and explained I wanted a half hour with no extras. Our session started off great, especially as she had a world-class pussy as a part of a lovely body. I was giving her a thorough pussy massage when she said, "you can put it in both holes"--meaning my fingers. I didn't, however, put my finger in her bum but did some harmless finger insertion in her vagina. Later she swore she had said, "For another 50 you can put it in both holes," but I have my doubts. Needless to say, all went fine until I was back at the cash locker and paid her the 50 I owed her when she pointed out that I owed her another 50 "for both holes." I objected, and suggested that if she insisted I would be happy to speak to a manager.

She passed the word for the manager, and soon an older gentlemen and woman showed up and "Sandra" unloaded to them--in English, courteously enough. There was considerable discussion in German between Sandra and the lady, and I could tell by Sandra's body language that it wasn't going her way. Finally the manageress said to me, "Let us compromise--you give her another 20 . . ." and Sandra said, "No, I want nothing!"

That was fine with me, as she wouldn't get a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) from me if she was on fire, even if it meant getting the heave-ho for good. The manageress went on to apologize, and encouraged me to not let one misunderstanding ruin my opinion of the Palace, etc.

I really don't understand the mentality of girls like Sandra. She turned a great time into a miserable memory. If she had prevailed, did she think that I would just forget? I made a mental note --AGAIN--to make it absolutely clear that I would accept no upsells once a session has begun.

All in all, though, I did have a great time, but trust that you'll give Sandra a wide berth. Or if not, say, "Well, I would like to do you, but I've heard what you did to my pal Johnny--so go pound sand!"

Chicafan
03-21-08, 14:24
Salome is from Brazil & she was great until she tried to charge me 100 E for what she claimed to be 31 minutes. I was wearing my watch & I am no newbie, but she demanded the money & I refused. She gave me the look of death for the next 3 days. Be careful with Salome.

Bleach blond? Environment is an interesting determiner of how we act. Culturally the Brazilian girls are terrific... but once in Palace?

Ekliges Lauern
03-22-08, 09:45
i arrived at palace at about 5pm fresh off of a nap and a workout after a transatlantic flight. right away, i could tell the vibe was good. about half the normal number of women were there and the place was somewhat empty, but the women there were of good quantity. also, i was getting a very relaxed vibe to the place. in contrast to the 11pm on saturday night churn and burn atmosphere. a number of women were politely offering themselves during my pre-game warm up festivities. even olympia, the romanian [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) hottie was there and remembered me from a couple of weeks ago at cola. i was considering giving her a second test run as i was feeling the vibe of a magic evening at palace.

i should also note that lena was not present. i haven’t seen her during my last four visits to palace, so i am wondering if she has moved on. without lena there, olympia has inherited the spot as the hottest looking girl at palace.

another interesting digression. when i was at cola a couple of weeks ago, i was speaking to a chap who loved sessioning with romanian women. he said he was even learning some romanian in order to develop better chemistry. i generally shy away from the romanian women as i haven’t had particularly good luck with the sessions, and the board consensus seems to be anti-romanian so i found it interesting to her from the contrary view-point. just goes to show one man’s meat is another man’s poison. anyway, on to the sessions.

during the pregame warm up, i’ve had nice couch flirt sessions with both julia and irena from russia. i also had a nice couch warm up with selina (or is it serina) the deutsche lass. as i mention, i’m feeling a good vibe so i just park myself in the kino and decide i’ll go with the first one of the three who shows up. turns out it’s julia. great kino bj. she takes direction well and slows down when i direct her to. he friend irena wanders in the kino, smiles and waves at me while julia is sucking off. priceless. turns out i’m having trouble holding back as she really gets me going. i want to fuck her before giving her the ft bonus so we head off to the room. after some enjoyable missionary, with her gently rocking her hips in rhythm and frenching me, we switch to hund style. julia has one of those bigger soft butts that women tend to develop in their late twenties. i’m really digging fucking her from behind, but i keep having to slow down to keep from losing it early. finally i succumb and give her the ft bonus. she stays on me for a few minutes; not immediately jumping up to spit like some girls do. she also wants to hang out and chill after the session. we are off to an excellent start, julia earned a spot on my repeat dance card as cleanup hitter material (a girl that can be counted on to get the job done when it is your third or fourth session of the night).

at this point, i am considering a sir-mix-a-lot (i like big butts and i cannot lie) dance card for the evening. her friend irena has a similar body, although nicer tits, but julia’s face is prettier. i could round out my dance card with german selina, who has a world class ass and is just plain fun to fuck. i also am noticing the thin red-head german sandra returning from sessions with happy blokes. although she is going against type for the evening, she is attracting my interest.

when i am ready for round two, i park myself in the kino and await the next lass to arrive who catches my fancy. turns out it is sandra. i should note that when i went to write this review, i was having trouble remembering her name. well, a review from gamma ray 007 refreshed my memory as to her name. as it turns out, my experience was the exact opposite. i should mention that i am not “anti-extra” to the degree he is. i like a good ft finish if the blowjob is especially pleasing. i don’t mind if they let me know a cim finish or anal are available. interestingly enough, sandra wanted to make sure i understood the price structure (50euro + 50euro if i cim’d) prior to commencing. i smiled and waved that i understood. anyway, sandra proceeded to give me a world class bj. the interesting aspect was she was going no hands the entire time. usually, most ladies will resort to using their hands in addition to their mouths to bring matters to a conclusion. i admire a lady who is committed to the task, and i found sandra’s commitment to concluding the bj mouth only commendable. after about half an hour of a world class kino bj, she brought it to a convulsive conclusion. i can tell i am in the midst of one of those magic nights when nothing can go wrong.

i should point out that i am a semi-regular at palace, and i am sure my love of kino bjs, tendency to repeat with ladies and that i happily pay the ft bonus has made me a desirable target for ladies looking for the ft bonus.

i’m feeling a little peckish at this point and leave for a doener run. although it is a bit of a pain to get to, i highly recommend koeylue doener at affentorplatz. hand made veal doeners (i’ve seen them building the spit of meat in the back room. just remember to bring mouth wash and toothpaste if you make a doener run as the garlic and chili in the sauce is strong.

back to palace for round three. while chilling on the couch, irena comes over and lets me know she isn’t happy i haven’t gone with her yet. who am i to argue. i figure her friend julia has explained exactly what is required to make me a happy camper so i figure this is a can’t fail proposition. into the kino we go. irena delivers a toe curling kino bj. not world class like sandra’s or julia’s, but still quite good. she got the job done, which is no small task for round three. plus, there is no upside in having a russian lass that gives a pleasing bj angry at you. a fitting end to a magical night.

i end up hanging out in the kino for a while before going back to the hotel. i watch a situation arise where one lass blows a guy for about ten minutes before he ends up refusing to go to the room with her. of course the manageress appears and they go off to discuss the situation. his point was that he didn’t ask her to begin and thus he didn’t feel he had committed. no dice in my book, i have to side with her. the fact that she went on for about ten minutes and that he did not immediately stop her, committed him in my book.

i’m heading over to palace again today and tonight. i’m hoping the vibe is as good as yesterday.

Mahaba
03-23-08, 03:39
In reading through this thread, I have noticed a trend at Palace that I have personally experienced...Over-Pricing.

I lived in Frankfurt for seven years, and visited several FKK's. Palace is the one where I had to keep my guard up, and be careful about not being over charged and accused of agreeing to services I never even discussed.

In my opinion, Oase and Bernds are much safer and relaxing alternatives.

Since Palace is in the city, and almost a tourist destination, many of the girls are not as concerned about repeat business by locals, so they seem to push harder for "extra charges".

Should you go there, just be aware of the situation, and be clear about what you are paying for. For example: If you agree on a BBBJ with CIM for 100-Euros, but she then suggests you finger her, she is actually planning on asking you for another 50-Euros. EVERYTHING is subject to additional charges.

If you go with 2-girls, and you agree to an up-sell to CIM with one of them, they may BOTH demand 100-Euros.

I think this is more likely at Palace, and not at the other FKK's.

Any thoughts?

Mahaba

Skristel
03-23-08, 23:18
Just got back from Palace today, my second visit after 12 months. Was there between 12. 30pm to 18. 30pm. Having read previous reports suggesting decline in standard, I had to go and see for myself.

I'm very disappointed, about 12-15 girls there, same no of guys, (Easter Sunday), All the girls (except for 1 german girl. Bless her) would not allow for a brief 3-4 min chat, nearly all said something like 'baby you want to go room! For sex! , . I tell you where I from when we go room! , . Baby I here to make money! '.

I couldn't f***** believe it. The place is ruined, it felt like being in a Bogota / Caracus brothel having an aggresive 'Carlito's Way' exchange (not that I've been to that part of the world).

I really like the interior set-up in Palace, however the experience is the worst EVER. I'm done with this club.

Really glad I went to Oase the day before, had a great GFE time x3, what an absolute contrasting experience to above. (see write-up under FKK Oase)

Hey guys, it's a waste of EUR75. I had budgeted for 3 EUR50 sessions, as a result had zilch, . Aaah well, I'll add on an extra EUR150 onto my Artemis trip in May (can't wait to see gorgoeus Russian Anna)

Ekliges Lauern
03-24-08, 14:52
I don’t really understand all the criticism of Palace regarding sharks and extras. In the three or so years I have been coming to Palace, I have had exactly one experience where a lady has tried to assert she was owed more than she actually was. When I refused to pay her more than I owed, she backed down quickly. I wouldn’t go to Palace during a Messe and I have noticed this club can get a bad atmosphere late at night if business starts slowing down, but otherwise I have always had good results at Palace. I am very selective in my choices based on observation, interaction and recommendations of others. To each his own, I guess.

I decided to split my Saturday visit to Palace into an afternoon and evening session. I had plans to meet up with Felipe2006 and Timmendorf later in the day, but I arrived at about 3PM fresh off of a meal outside the club. As usual, I hung out for a while surveying the possibilities for a new friendship. Usually, I like to spot new ladies returning from the rooms with happy customers. For whatever reason, my radar was not locking on to a choice. As a result, I decided to go with an old favorite, Selina, the German girl next door.

In the past, I had always gone to the room with Selina and had yet to see her administer a Kino BJ. In order to add a new element to the experience, I ushered her into the Kino. Selina administered a perfectly competent Kino BJ, but with Selina, I always enjoy fucking her as she is just plain fun to fuck. As it was afternoon and the Kino wasn’t crowded, I decided to move on to fucking in the Kino. Started out with Selina on top while holding on top her soft hips. After a few minutes, I decided to switch to missionary, but with her butt hanging off one of the ledges with me kneeling on the step below. This position allowed for some really vigorous, deep pounding, to the point that Selina put her hands above her tits to keep them from flopping up and down so violently. I really like Selina’s back side so I had to finish from behind. For this, I positioned her bent over the step, kneeling on the same level as me while her torso was prone on the level above me. In effect, she was pinned against the step with me pounding her from behind. This went on for quite a while as I was really enjoying her. Sehr Geil! In the end, I finished and we snuggled for a while. Selina is not the most beautiful woman in the club, but I like her look and she delivers with really hot sex.

As an aside, I should explain that one of the reasons I keep coming back to Palace, in addition to the women I like, is I really like the layout of the Kino. It is well designed for both the man and the woman to be really comfortable during a BJ or sex. By contrast, the couches at Oase really aren’t as comfortable, particularly for the woman if she is kneeling in front of you giving a BJ. I know a couple of larger women who find it uncomfortable giving a BJ while kneeling in front of you in the Kino at Oase. If the woman is comfortable, the experience will be better. So if there are any aspiring FKK architects reading this post, I urge you to study the design of the Palace Kino, before designing a Kino as an ordinary room with a bunch of couches in it.

After round 1, I met up with Felipe2006 and Timmendorf as well as a chap from the Ice Bears forum. It was good swapping notes with my fellow mongers. Timmendorf had recommended a young lady from Iraq in his PM to me. While hanging out on a couch, Lena from Iraq sat down and introduced herself. Based on Timmendorf’s recommendation, I decided to go to the room with her. Lena chose the room with the most mirrors. During each phase of the festivities, she positioned herself for maximum visual effect with the mirrors. She is also a sweetheart, dedicated to making sure you have a great experience. For all of those concerned about upsell, she did let me know (very sweetly during the sex) that extras were available. I declined with a smile and she had no problem with it. I certainly understand why guys get annoyed when a lady pushes for extras before going to the room, or gets angry if you decline, but I appreciate a lady that lets me know what is on the menu at the right time. All in all, Lena is a sweet girl who delivered a very erotic experience. I will definitely repeat.

After round 2, Felipe2006 left and had dinner and a drink at a café near Bockenheimer Warte. It’s good to get out of the club for a beer and a bite of food and to rest.

After return and hanging out for a while, I ended the evening with a Kino BJ from German Sandra. I’ve described this before and it was basically more of the same so no need to go into details. After round 3, I decided to hang out a while to see if I was up for round 4. As I was chilling in the Kino, two things were ruining my post BJ Kino buzz. First of all, there was a group of about five French guys hanging out in the Kino talking loudly and generally acting like they were at a football game. Note to all, the Kino is for A) resting and recovering or B) getting a BJ or having sex with a lady. It is not for male socializing. Take it outside. The second thing that was killing my buzz was that Russian Irine was coming around every 15 minutes to see if I was ready for a session. I like Irine and think she delivers an enjoyable session, but she needs to learn to leave men alone if they defer two or more times.

I ended up leaving the Kino and finding Felipe2006 waiting at a table by the smoking room. Based on my and Timmendorf’s recommendation, he was planning on hooking up with Lena when she emerged from her smoke break. He dubbed his intentions operation Iraqi pussy. Anyway, as Lena emerged with a group of about five other ladies, two blokes intercept the whole lot and herded them into a room. It was like a couple of sheep dogs herding sheep. I felt bad for Felipe2006 but hopefully he will get a chance with Lena next time at Palace.

Felipe2006
03-24-08, 19:48
I was back in Frankfurt at Palace over Easter weekend – met up with some fellow isg members and an Ijsberen member which was great as I'm usually by myself when I go to clubs. Arriving around six o'clock, I spotted Thai lady Bee. One of my favourites – and chatted with her a bit but she was busy with clients. She only works during the day. But I'd been with her last month & will no doubt see her next time (May or June).

As I had expected, mot of the Latin American ladies were not around – it was Easter after all.

Two sessions:

(I) Alicia from DR – black lady. I've known her for a year – great sex. Having said that, I would advise newbies of steering clear or at least be careful with her as she's a bit of a shark – a half an hour is often 15 minutes or less. (she openly admitted to me she tries to do three clients in 45 minutes). I always had a great time with her, no problems with clock, whether 30 or 60 minutes. If you make it clear that you're not new to the game you shouldn't have problems. But as fellow member Radler put it so nicely. "one man's meat is another man's poison".

(ii) Dayana (? ) from Colombia, very blond, quite tall (1, 72 or so) – I had tagged her as an East European initially but then overheard her speaking Spanish. Good session, if a bit professional – she wasn't exactly the GFE type – or at least not with me. 50 € well spent.

I tried to go for the Iraqui girl (see Radler's report below) but was intercepted by two guys herding six girls to a room. They were like tour guides counting their customers. "5. , no wait 6, did we count right? " It was funny.

I didn't mind that much, and besides the other guys had convinced me to go to Oase the next day. So 'Operation Iraqui Pussy' failed (any similarities to real events are are purely coincidental.) – but other that it was a great night. I left at 2am. I'll be back at Palace in May or June.

Felipe

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Felipe2006
03-24-08, 19:56
Saturday night at Palace there was a Russian girl named Alina that was apparently new to the club. Very tall, very blond, skinny, kind of like the Russian model type. She was the only girl wearing a dress. Short of course, but still a dress, could've been an evening gown if it was little longer.

She wanted 100 € for 30 minutes. I declined, but for the normal rate I'd gone with her (and I'm not usually into the East European blond type.). My Italian friends said they'd watched her 4 hours and not see her go to a room. Anybody know her or been with her?

Felipe

Vito Corleone
03-27-08, 09:41
She wanted 100 € for 30 minutes. I declined, but for the normal rate I'd gone with her (and I'm not usually into the East European blond type.). My Italian friends said they'd watched her 4 hours and not see her go to a room. Anybody know her or been with her?

Felipe

100E for 30 minutes! What a joke. She will have a hard time finding clients with those prices.

Marlow
03-27-08, 15:47
You should have told the management. If the management at Palace are half way decent and honest then this girl would have been out of the door before you. Good clubs are tough on girls trying to con the guests, as it takes one or two reports on this kind of scam on the German boards to send the club into a nose dive. I would always tell the theke frau exactly which girl tried to rip you off and how. Not to do so means the con artists simply congregate in that particular club as word gets around that foreigners speaking English are like babes in the woods. Relieving them of their cash is easier than taking candy from the proverbial baby.
That said Palace does have its fans on the German boards, among the desperate or addicted though. The rest avoid it.

Ekliges Lauern
03-27-08, 15:49
Saturday night at Palace there was a Russian girl named Alina that was apparently new to the club. Very tall, very blond, skinny, kind of like the Russian model type. She was the only girl wearing a dress. Short of course, but still a dress, could've been an evening gown if it was little longer.

She wanted 100 € for 30 minutes. I declined, but for the normal rate I'd gone with her (and I'm not usually into the East European blond type.). My Italian friends said they'd watched her 4 hours and not see her go to a room. Anybody know her or been with her?

Felipe

She was there on Monday and sessioning quite often. I suspect she got realistic regarding pricing, because there is no way she was getting that much business pricing at 100 Euro. Although, I saw Chinese Tan give a bloke an hour long hand job with a couple of seconds long BJ and he seemed happy with the service, so maybe there are folks who happily paid premium pricing as she was prettier than most of the women there.

In general the lineup was weak on Monday, and had I not been so lazy, I should have gone to Oase (based on quality of lineup on Sunday). I considered taking one for the team with Aline but by the time I was making my move, she had hooked up with another Russian woman as was pushing doubles. Her partner, it turned out, was a super busty Russian lass that approached me in the Kino a few months back. I was going to session with her until she objected to doing a BJ in the Kino and started yelling at me. In the end, I ended up deciding the risk factors were way too high with Aline, and I ended up sessioning with another Russian lass essentially chosen at random.

My other interesting observation was I seem to have a doppelganger in a parallel universe. I noticed a rather scruffy Japanese chap hanging out in the Kino who seemed partial to Kino sex with blond women. I've noticed him at Palace before as I tend to spend quite a lot of time in the Kino. I'm partial to Kino BJs (although I do indulge in Kino sex from time to time) and prefer a wide variety of partners in terms of appearance. I could also be described as rather scruffy myself. So if the Kino sex loving Japanese chap partial to blonds happens to be an ISG member, chime in or PM me and I'll introduce myself the next time I see you at Palace (but not in the Kino, the Kino should be reserved for resting or sex).

Dedalus
03-28-08, 00:06
100E for 30 minutes! What a joke. She will have a hard time finding clients with those prices.


Hey Don,

She may not. Lots of suckers out there.

Had a conversations with a rather experienced German player the other night at World. He also is boycotting Palace. Said he took a Romanian to the room on his last visit. As soon as the door was shut she told him that she would give him a crap session for the standard 50 EUR or a good 30 minutes session for a 100. The guy told her that "In this case, why don't we do nothing together and I'll keep my money."

Welcome to Palace.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Vito Corleone
03-28-08, 10:59
Hey Don,

She may not. Lots of suckers out there.

Had a conversations with a rather experienced German player the other night at World. He also is boycotting Palace. Said he took a Romanian to the room on his last visit. As soon as the door was shut she told him that she would give him a crap session for the standard 50 EUR or a good 30 minutes session for a 100. The guy told her that "In this case, why don't we do nothing together and I'll keep my money."

Welcome to Palace.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Wassup Deda,

I guess you are right. I had the luxury of hooking up with Hessen Bub twice after a 1 year boycott & he gave me the 411 on most of the women I was interested in. Kim was the only girl I jumped on with out his advise.

Salome from Brazil tried to rip me off & another hot chick (forgot her name) said I owed her 100E because she had to work really hard for 28 minutes. I just laughed after that one. Palace is full of sharks, but I had some off the hook sessions las Feb & especially with Denise from Romania.

Also, Lina was not around during my trip so I went to Palace more than I originally planned.

Basketcase
03-30-08, 02:42
Day 1: Thursday, 20 March 2008, FKK Palace

For the interesting stuff on the girls you need to scroll down to the heading under Girls.

Introduction

This is the first day of my Easter 2008 Frankfurt FKK tour. I started my Easter a day early leaving on Thursday to get ahead for the long weekend. I went for five days and visited the three larger Hessen clubs of FKK Palace, FKK Oase and FKK World including side trips to the Frankfurt centre Red light Districts around Moselstrasse and Elbestrasse. For self containment and usefulness I will write a report for each venue that I attended regardless of the date. These reports will be my record in my old age of the great times I had when I could do this sort of stuff and not be restricted by other chores in life. It will be my very own Capitan James T Kirk’s log of my travels. It is also my opportunity to pay back to all those who have come before me and provided their good advice.

Before my trip to Frankfurt I had discussed with my group of friends in the UK about the delights of the FKKs of Germany. They were all skeptical that FKKs were really that good and actually existed. After my trip I related my experiences to them and now they are believers of the brilliant service that could be expected in Germany. They now know that it must all be true since I had an absolute ball over my 5 days in Hessen. Interestingly enough a colleague who had asked for a tip on where to take another companion on a debauched trip went to Berlin to visit the mighty Artemis. He went to Berlin for Artemis before I took my trip to Frankfurt! The guy had clandestinely taken the plunge before I had gone and he had not confided in me until I had returned from my trip. We then met up and related our different experiences. He said that this was not 100% his scene but knew it would be if he were single and not married. Regardless he thanked me profusely for passing on the tip as it’s a totally different experience to Amsterdam which we have both been to many times.

I shall now proceed to relate my first day on my tour of the Frankfurt FKK clubs. We start on Thursday, 20 March 2008.

The Travel to Frankfurt Germany

I got up at 5:30am to shower, shave and pack my long weekend bag. I was in a still tired and in a mad hurry as I worked late the Wednesday night in the office trying to clear off my tasks before the Easter break. I was not the best organized. I have only myself to blame prioritizing my work over my personal life. I walked to the local train station and took the tube to London Heathrow to catch my flight with Lufthansa to Frankfurt. Travel time is 71 minutes per the train timetable. It was a long journey and I had to make one stop along the way for a toilet break which really put my timing in jeopardy. Just as I got to one stop before Heathrow on the tube I started checking my flight schedule and then realized I did not have my passport! My heart sank into my stomach. All the giddy smiles that early morning I had of going to FKK land for Easter vanished in an instant. My flight was at 9:50am and it was 8:30am now and I just knew I did not have the time to take the 3 hours round tube trip back home and then come back to Heathrow to make the flight with my passport.

The left side of my brain took over and I decided it was better to check if I could get a later flight and also check whether a driver’s license was sufficient to get me to Germany and back. At the Lufthansa ticket desk I was told that as it was Easter there were no available flights until Friday morning at 7am and that all flights to Frankfurt out of Heathrow today were overbooked. I was also told that a passport was needed for entry into Germany as I was entering for the first time the Schengen countries from the UK which is not part of the Schengen. A driver’s license for a UK citizen returning is possible for re-entry. Great, I thought I cannot get to Germany but I can come back to the UK.

It was 9 am. I considered my options:

One, give up the FKK trip altogether and spend my budget in London on a blast here. I knew of a number of private parties tonight and over the weekend that I could attend and get my end away if I so desired.

Two, see if I can fly out on standby for Thursday. This needed effort on my part.

Three, see if I can fly out Friday losing a day (Thursday) of my precious annual leave.

I decided to pursue option two. The Lufthansa ticket desk advised that the Heathrow flight at 1:30pm had a standby list of 27 persons and the London City airport flight at 1:20pm had a standby list of one person but it was a much smaller plane. It would take me 3 hours to return to Heathrow and that would be a mad rush but getting to London City airport would be just 2 hours as I would pass by my home and pick my passport up saving me a roundabout trip. The ticket person put some notes on my booking form and said it was up to the London City Lufthansa people if they let me on the plane and said the additional cost would be £101.00.

I thought about it hard. I had known about FKKs since 2002 but never had the courage to visit until 2008. £101 is a lot of money. I had planned so hard for this trip that I knew that I could not back out now. I said to the Lufthansa ticket desk that I would take my chances at London City airport for a flight and headed for home. A long uneventful tube ride got me home and I picked my passport up. As I came out of my home train station I heard a magazine seller singing “Always Look on the Bright Side of Life” from the Monty Python movie “The Life of Brian”. That song made me a little bit happier and that I should not fret. It was now 11am so I picked up some lunch before proceeding to London City airport in the London Docklands area well in time for a 1:20pm flight.

I like London City airport. As it caters to mainly business travelers, is small it can be very friendly and efficient. The Lufthansa desk were helpful saying as I am on standby I should wait until 12:45pm which is 35 minutes before the flight and when the check in desk closes to see if all the passengers turn up. I waited and waited. At 12:45pm I reported back to the ticket desk who advised that 4 passengers had not turned up. I was issued a new ticket and paid my £101 additional costs. Adding that £101.00 to the original £80.20 I paid makes this flight effectively costing me £181.20 to get to Frankfurt from London.

I then waited by the check in desk for when the desk closed and check my small bag in. As I waited four other passengers turned up last minute for the same flight to Frankfurt. My heart sank again. I was not going anywhere as the last four passengers had turned up and whoever the one other person who was on standby was not going anywhere as well.

Then in a change in fortune, the check in desk said I could go through to security and proceed as fast as I could to gate 10 as the flight was nearly boarded. I did not understand until I got to the departure gate and found that a passenger had been taken off the flight due to irregularities with her ticket. I sympathized with her predicament as her travel agent had mistakenly put on her ticket London City to Frankfurt via Dakar in Africa for some reason. The security people could not allow someone on with unexplained ticket arrangements. I was advised I had been bumped up to business class. The tide is turning back in my favour again.

When I got on the plane I saw many empty seats. I then realized that business class on this flight meant you were given two seats to one person. A dozen more people could have got on this flight!! The flight to Frankfurt was pleasant being looked after as a business class passenger.

I touched down in Frankfurt Main airport at 4pm local time and made my way through the bustling crowds. It struck me how such an enormous airport it was. I picked up my bag from the baggage carousel. It had come out quick as my plane was small and was full of business travellers who had no hold luggage.

Getting to the Hotel from the Airport

Starting from my flight into Frankfurt Airport Terminal 1 and once landed and through immigration and customs, I took the escalator to the basement level as that is where the S-Bahn trains go to the Frankfurt main city center are. Before heading down to the trains I went to the automatic ticketing machine; pressing the button named "Einzelfahrt Frankfurt" with an aero plane symbol. I did not bother with other buttons. The ticket price is €3.60 one way. I inserted the appropriate euro notes for the ticket and received my change. The ticket machines give change unless they say they do not. There is a feature that translate the screen instructions to English if you are really struggling understanding the machine. The platform you want for Frankfurt is number 1 and it is sign posted as trains “to Frankfurt”. I looked out for the S8 or S9 train at platform 1 to Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof main station (“Hbf”). The train from the airport to Hbf is a 15 minutes journey. I came out of tracks 101 and 102 into the great open space that is the Hbf.

I found the tourist office in the Hbf and purchased a map of Frankfurt for €0.50 and picked up some tourist brochures.

Hotel Excelsior

My hotel was the Hotel Excelsior on the Sudseite or South side of the Hbf station. It was for my 4 nights in a single room there costing €53 a night so €212 in total.

Hotel Excelsior
Address
Mannheimer Str. 7-9
Frankfurt am Main, 60329
Germany
Phone +49 (0) 69 25 60 80
Fax +4969256082141
E-mail reception@hotelexcelsior-frankfurt.de


Drinks are free in the room mini-bar and are refilled everyday. You can have a set of trousers and shirt laundered for free each day and breakfast is an extensive American breakfast is also included in the room rate.

The check in reception staff was efficient and spoke excellent English. I got to my room and was pleased with the location and the facilities. I thank you Pepto for the advice on the Hotel Excelsior.

Exchanging Cash Currency

It was now 5pm and I went to the train station to change my GBP cash into EUR cash. At London City airport the FX rate for cash was a depressing €1.18 to the £1. I thought I could get a beter rate in Frankfurt and held off exchanging in London. At the Western Union exchange bureau in the Hbf the rate was an even worse €1.13 to the £1. I bit the bullet as I knew I would need the flexibility of the cash this long weekend. I also took out some euro cash on my debit card.

Later I found out when I returned home to the UK that I was getting €1.28 to the £1 on my credit and debit cards. I am now glad that I took more euro cash out using my cards than by exchanging GBP cash to euro cash as my bank does not change exchange fees or handling fees. The difference in rates for cash at the Hbf Western Union and my debit card was astonishing. For £1000 I could get €1280 on my debit card but for the same £1000 in cash I would receive only €1130. That is a €150 difference per £1000 which goes a long way!

FKK Palace

My plans had FKK Palace as my first FKK port of call. It is located 300 metres from U-bahn station Industriehof Neue Borse located on Konigsberger Strasse 23, 60487 Frankfurt Hausen Phone: 069-71034526). Frankfurt Hausen is a Frankfurt northern suburb close to the A66 and Palace is in a small industrial section and the entrance is in the side of a large industrial building. There is a nearby Ibis hotel at 300 metres and the Hotel Fleming is at Ebringerstrasse 1-3, 60487 Frankfurt across the road from FKK Palace. The Ibis Hotel is located on Breitenbachstrasse 7, 60487 Frankfurt (Phone 069-24 70 70).

The advice is to use the U Bahn subway during the day and only use a taxi when leaving between 0100 AM and before 04:30 AM. If you must take a taxi it is a 10 minute taxi ride to Palace from HBf central train station costing between 10-15 Euros. I paid €15 for my €12.40 taxi ride from Palace back to my hotel when I felt like my long day had caught up with me. The drive took about 10 minutes at 2:30am in the morning. I was in such a pleasant mood after my Palace visit.

To FKK Palace By Subway from the airport:

Take the S8 or S9 S-Bahn commuter train from the Flughafen Regionalbahnhof accessible from Airport (Terminal 1) in the direction of Frankfurt City to Hauptwache (towards Hanau Hauptbahnhof) and get out at "Hauptwache" station. Then transfer to either the U6 or U7 in the direction of "Hausen" or Frankfurt (Main) Heerstraße which is going north. Get off at the "Industriehof/Neue Börse" stop. This station is the first station that you come to that is above ground and is actually just a pair of platforms raised above ground, there's no "terminal building". More like a bus stop. The train ride from Hauptwache to Industriehoff/Neue Borse is really short, about 7 min only. Once you alight you cross over the tracks and then cross the street at the traffic lights. You should be in front of coppery-color head height stone wall. If you didn't walk across the train tracks, you're probably headed in the wrong direction. If you now turn left and walk, the Ibis Hotel is about 150 meters down the road.

Turn right following the direction that the train was going before it stops and turns away in another direction. After about 20m straight ahead you come to a 10-foot wide gap in the copper coloured stone wall.
Looking through the gap in the wall you see Königsbergerstrasse. In the distance on a roundabout you see a big sign that says 'Palace'. Walk in the direction of the Palace sign.

Walk about 300m from the train stop and you will see another big sign saying Palace which indicates its location. Before you get to the sign you will see the Hotel Fleming with its name lit up in blue. Right below the Hotel Fleming is the sign for The Palace (golden words on black background). You will soon come to The Palace on your left hand side after crossing one intersection roundabout.

You see the free parking lot and maybe a several taxis waiting. You turn right into the alley and the entrance to FKK Palace on the left. Opposite the FKK Palace entrance is the high storied yellow coloured Hotel Fleming. Look for Hotel Fleming and you will find FKK Palace.

To FKK Palace By subway from the HBF:

An alternative by public transport is from the HBF (central train station). Take the underground U4 train to Bockenheimer Warte which is only two stops away and it dead ends at Bockenheimer Warte. You find the U bahn trams in another part of the Hbf housing the S Bahn. From the U4 you switch to either the U6 or U7 train towards either Praunheim Heerstrasse (U6) or Hausen (U7) respectively. Get off at the Industriehof/Neue Borse station. Cost is €2.20 one way. Head west (across the tracks you just arrived on) and across the street look for a long brick wall ahead. Go through the walkway gap in the brick wall and you'll see the sign for "PALACE" about 300 metres ahead and on the left side as described above.

When using the ticket vending machine for one way tickets in the central Frankfurt trams you just need to press the button Einzelfahrt under the adult picture and you will be charged €2.20 per ticket. Look at what the machine accepts for payment as it may be out of change. For example the ticket machine will at times reject any note from €20 or above. I helped out a local German at Friedrichsdorf station by exchanging his €20 note for two €10 notes. Change will be provided coins. Note you can get a day ticket for €7.70 and you can go all around Frankfurt with multiple stops.

FKK Palace General Description

FKK Palace
FKK Palace, Frankfurt-Hausen
Königsbergerstrasse. 23, 60487 Frankfurt / M - Hausen (City)
Eintritt: 65 €
30 min: 50 €
60 min: 100 €
Extras: FT 50 €;
Open: 10am to 04 am
http://www.fkk-palace.de/
Entrance FKK Palace €75
Sessions at FKK Palace 5 @ €50 each is €250
Extras
FKK Palace girls, have several extras - 1 for CIM potentially for swallow. Some girls spit and some girls performed swallowing as part of the deal for CIM.

What Happens on Entrance to Palace

At the reception I was greeted by the desk lady. I said I had not been to Palace before but I knew what the deal was. I paid my entrance fee of €75 and was issued with a towel, a thin coloured tamper-free wrist band was placed on my wrist and I was given another larger wrist band with a small key and some explanations on pricing such as a session with the girls is €50. The first wrist band is to record that you have paid your entrance fee for the day and allows you to exit and re-enter the place anytime within the operating hours for the day. The second wrist band with the key opens 2 lockers: a small locker in front of the first bar is where you keep your money and valuables like your mobile phone and a second bigger locker where you keep your clothing, bag etc...

There was an option to be issued with a blue bathrobe instead of a towel but I did not ask reception for one when I paid my entry. I understand that FKK World will sell you a white robe for 22 euro whereas FKK Oase has no robes at all so if you want one so you must bring your own.

Next you need to get changed into the punter uniform of naked except for a towel. I went to the men’s locker room and it took a minute for me to find my locker. I found my sandals in the locker itself. I undressed taking the first of many showers this evening. You are supposed to take a shower between each session and I had a few of those this evening. I have not felt so clean in ages. I showered after each session and even showered when I had a prolonged bout of sitting around between sessions in preparation of my next session. You shower with the sandals on for hygiene reasons. There were plenty of bottles of odorless shower gel. There are small cupboards to hold your towels while you shower and even a rack to place your glasses to avoid them getting all wet. How thoughtful. I dried myself with a spare towel from the shelves at the door to the men’s locker room. The original issued towel is a bit bigger than the ones on the shelves near the men’s locker as it is the one that you wrap around your waist.

I left my clothes in the main locker in the locker room and put my mobile phone and wallet in the smaller separate valuables locker that is outside the changing room and is in full view of the small bar in the reception hall. I understood it was from these small lockers and not the main locker room is where you pay the girl for the sessions that include BBBJ, DATY and DFK. You pay the girl after the session, by walking with her to your small locker and taking the money from inside and giving her the money. Depending on the girl she either walks off or gives you a peck on the cheeks and then walks off or she gives you a deep French kiss with lots of tongue before she walks off to clean herself up. As already said after the session you have a shower to clean up as well before coming back into general circulation.

If you need more towels there are plenty of towels by the reception area as well as robes. I took the advice that most men wear the towel around their waist, instead of a robe. The reason is that when wearing just a towel around your waist is that you can feel more of a girl when the girl closes up with you. Skin to skin contact is an occupational hazard in a FKK. The girl will be trying to entice you for a session by getting you aroused by licking your nipples or feeling your dick under your towel. The temperature indoors was well-regulated and I was never cold during my times in any of the FKKs which were a relief as I would hate to catch cold during my time there.

The Palace web site at www.the-palace.de gives a very good visual description of the layout. In the entrance vestibule there is the men’s locker room, the towel laundering room and the girl's locker room.
The Palace interior decorative theme seemed to me to be of a Turkish or Arabian harem. Highly decorated pillows and bench seating are everywhere. In the main longue room is the main bar on a raised platform where you get your free non alcoholic drinks. There are dedicated bar staff at each of the bars but at times when the bar staff was away collecting empties for example I was served by one of the friendly naked girls. Tables and chairs dot the landscape. There is even a swinging sofa. There are three poles in the room but one of the pole platforms had been covered in cushions for seating.

Off the longue is the kino or cinema room showing non stop porn movies. The movie brand seemed without fail to be from the Private stable so there were lots of anal and double penetration scenes. The cinema has a large screen and about four terraced levels of mattresses on one side and a lower two terrace level of mattresses on the other side. It is a really comfortable place to receive a BBBJ or have sex while watching or not watching the porn. There always seemed to be guys lounging around in the kino watching the movie. The girls treat the kino as an essential and usually a first port of call on their tours for business. They would come in to check out if any guys need a blowjob. It is a great spot to be as I worked out just about every girl would pass by the kino so if you are patient you can lie and watch porn until the cutie that you had your eye on turns up and she can start you off with a DFK and BBBJ session in the kino before going to the room.

I saw quite often girls giving guys blowjobs before going to the room for the sex but at times you get guys who cannot wait and just start having full sex in the cinema. Amazing to me as in London I only get to see live sex shows with punters at the private parties I attend and they are semi regular events. I never had the courage to have sex with a girl on stage with my friends watching in London. A few girls were really good getting guys to come with their mouths in the cinema.

I saw that the other men looked nonchalant while public sex and BBJ was being performed so I did as well trying to say to myself that public sex is just an everyday event in a FKK so please do not stare. Just looking around you are always going to have guys having a sneaky look to see if the girl is really good at getting the guy’s rocks off in the cinema. I suppose it’s a form of advertisement of her services. The voyeuristic opportunities in FKKs are phenomenal and I just could not believe that I would be happy to get in on the act as well.

Although, most of the couch action I saw happened in the Cinema although on Monday, 24 March I saw a bunch of Italian guys in the afternoon have a blowjob to completion competition in one of the smoking rooms as they smoked. Hilarious as the winner (the first to come) took a bow to his applauding comrades after finishing in the mouth of a blonde. Another incident I saw was a pretty blonde girl giving a man a blow job in the men’s locker room as he sat in a chair opposite the door to the shower area in full view of the reception area. She must be giving the guy a blow job goodbye before he dressed and left to go back to his loving wife. LOL. It goes to show that if you get to know the girl really well you receive special treatment like a blow job hello and a blow job goodbye from your favorite girl.

There are many bedrooms on the same level as the main area beautifully and thoughtfully decorated with mirrors and cushions.

There is also sauna room, jacuzzi, more tile lined showers, smoking room at the front and at the far end where the jacuzzi is. The sauna room was neat, so conveniently placed. I did not use the whirlpool, Jacuzzi. An on site masseur is also available from 2 pm to late. I recall it was €30 for 30 minutes. There are no outdoor facilities like at Oase or World.

My thoughts and experiences at FKK Palace

This Palace is a voyeur’s paradise. Why go to a strip show to see naked women when you can see naked women at Palace and be able to have sex with them as well?

I was astounded on entering the main longue area to see all the girls naked except for their heels and maybe a tiny strip of clothing around their waist like a loin wrap.

My first experience on entering the kino was a guy on the highest bunk of mattresses with his legs splayed wide apart jerking himself off as a slim light brunette leggy Russian girl was on the mattress tier below him sucking and licking his balls and arse noisily and hungrily. I wished that was me and then I realized that it could well be me tonight.

I found that I could get by quite well with just English but knew that even better interaction would be had if I had Deutsch.

I arrived around 6:30pm and it was Easter and so I felt that Palace had a nice relaxed atmosphere. Girls did not appear to be hassling and those that were persistent were quite good about being turned down for the umpteenth time. However, I did not notice as much long time interaction between the men and girls like I did at Oase and World where a girl would sit for ages and chat with the guys.

Both the day shift and the night shift were on the floor by 7pm and it did not feel crowded to my relief. There must have been about 40 girls and just a little bit more men so a good ratio. As advised by more veteran FKKers, I took my time to meet the girls instead of diving into the first girl that took my fancy. I spent a bit of time getting the feel of the place by exploring the facilities. At first it felt like a rabbit warren especially the bedroom area where the masseur is but after a couple of tours I finally got my bearings and knew where most things were. Also it was a great opportunity to check out all the talent working that night. I was accosted a few times on my travels but a “nein danke” was sufficient to send them on their way. I spent about an hour or so before I took the plunge with a girl.

I noted that quite a few of the sessions given by the girls lasted between 10 to 15 minutes. There did not seem to be any lingering in the room mentality for the full 30 minutes.

The place is kept very clean. The cleaners and bar staff are vigilantly mopping, scrubbing and picking up used towels or picking up empty glasses. A few times I lost my drink just as I just put my half full glass down and looking away to talk to a girl and then to look back that my glass had been taken away. You have to be quick if you have not finished with your drink.

Entertainment

At about 10pm there was a couple of pole stage acts. Two girls did some dancing on the poles on the raised platform that also houses the main bar. It was a bit ironic that the dancer who actually works the floor put some clothes on to perform the dance act. There was no stripping of clothes, just a dance. In a place where all the girls are nude it did occur to me a bit strange that a pole act would keep their clothes on. It felt like some of the stringent laws in the UK about what is or is not allowed in stripping and lap dance clubs.

There were a couple of game machines dotted around the longue area which seemed to be more occupied by girls rather than the punters.
The Food and Drinks
The breakfast buffet is offered daily from 10 am until 3 pm and Dinner is now served between 7pm and 11pm. I found that the food is laid out for dinner for the 7pm sitting and then fresh food is laid out around 10pm for supper. It was a good spread of rocket salad, tomato and mozzarella cheese, pasta with a choice of tomato sauce or a cream based sauce. Dessert was chocolate mousse and sliced banana.

It is quite funny to see an orderly queue of naked men with towels around their waist and fully naked girls getting their food. It occurred to me how surreal this scene was and how quickly I become quite cool about being nearly naked myself with lots of other naked men and naked women. I never in my life had contemplated joining the naturism scene going naked and here I was quite happy being naked in a huge brothel in a foreign clime.
I had dinner at 8pm sitting at a table of naked German men in towels. Everyone was pretty cool about it. The girls I noticed tended to sit together as did the men at separate tables.

Drinks like coke, sprite, fanta, multi vitamin orange juice, tea, coffee etc, the lunch and dinner buffet is included in the entrance fee. Alcohol is not free. Drinks were obtained from the central bar in the main lounge. I did not see very many people drinking alcohol which had to be purchased. There were many flyers advertising champagne at exorbitant cost

GIRLS

The Sessions with the Women at Palace

For my day 1 visit I had 6 sessions with three different girls.

* Linda from Czech Republic –

Description

Linda had really big natural boobs which drooped down. She had long blonde hair with blue eyes, red ruby lips, cute and a soft bottom to touch. Pretty smile. She wore a body stocking covering her torso to enhance her figure until it came time to take it off in the room for a session and hold up stockings that accentuated her legs. She reminded me a bit of the blonde American actress Shelley Long for some reason.

The session

I stopped Linda doing her rounds and she knew I wanted to take her to the room. She stripped out of her outfit and I dropped my towel. I do not think I had gotten so ready for sex ever before. Usually the girl is waiting for me to get undressed and here I was butt naked ready to go in seconds. Linda asked if I wanted a gummi for my blowjob and I declined for a BBBJ. Linda proceeded to give a decent blow job and then put the condom for sex climbing on for cowgirl. I must have been nervous as the plumbing stopped working and I went to hand job and then BBBJ again. Back to sex again and I finished off by coming on her backside. That was my first pop of withholding from self fiddling for 5 days prior to this visit so the load was quite copious and took a number of tissues to clean up Linda. That was €100 I guess.

My thoughts on Linda

Linda was my first FKK girl and caught me at a moment of unequal terms as I had not had a session in over an hour of visiting and decided that I had to do something or I would burst. LOL. We did not kiss but then I did not go for that sexual service during this session. I suppose I should find out next time if she kisses as she does have a pretty face.

* Adriana from Hungary –

Description

Adriana had long mid waist auburn hair, slim, tall with C cup natural breasts which have been a good handful to hold. She has an exotic look and a lovely personality to go with it. Adriana used to work at World I understand and moved to Palace over a year ago.

The session

We had a fairly standard session starting with BBBJ but I had come not too long ago so she had to work hard to get me to come. Adriana asked if I would like my BJ with gummi and I said I would like it without if that was on offer. BBBJ was on offer and the question of a cover was just a courtesy by her. She was determined but in the end I said it was fine if I did not come. We moved to DATY where I went to work on her pussy. Adriana lay back and enjoyed the attention and came gracefully by burying my head in between her clenched thighs. She took a minute to catch her breath then thank me profusely for the release. I said for her to spread the word to her friends and true to her word she did as I had a couple of girls later ask me for a session to see what Adriana was talking about.

My thoughts on Adriana

Adriana is a good worker and definitely VFM in the Palace environment. You cannot go wrong here with this beautiful girl.

* Julia from Ukraine –

Description

Pretty girl with neck length blonde hair in a pony tail with D or E firm enhanced breasts that I just loved to tit fuck. She had an Asian character tattoo down the lower spine. I actually saw several girls at Palace sport this style of Asian character tattoos down their spine. Julia reminded me a lot like the American actress and model Natasha Henstridge from the movie Species fame. Julia has washed out pale blue eyes, big blowjob lips, a slim petite build and a nicely shaved pussy. Despite Julia’s ample breasts she did not like them to be sucked just lightly licked as they were sensitive. Her skin was unblemished warm and soft and I liked her well proportioned legs.

The four sessions

I had four separate sessions with Julia during the night:

My first session started of with me seeing Julia available as she walked in to the raised bar area while I lay back on the cushions on the bank of sofas built into the back wall. She came over and lay down beside me and after a little bit of chat we started to DFK while I caressed her arse and tits. Julia was fully naked with no accessories accentuating her nakedness like some other girls did. We then went to a room. More DFK before Julia worked her way down my body to a BBBJ which was deep, firm and alternated between hand, mouth and tongue work action and combinations. We then flipped to me DATY on her. Back to more BBBJ and then came the finale where I opted for CIM. Julia got her bag of tricks out and did some amazing stuff to my groin area with her mouth, lips and also her fingers and hands with a helping of oil. A most intense orgasm was had by me that felt like I had been sucked dry from my dick. It was so sexy to see my come dribble from Julia’s mouth.

My second session with Julia was around 10 pm when I caught Julia when she was going for supper. She allowed me to join her and we had a chat while we ate. When we finished eating we went to a room together and proceeded to DFK, BBBJ with good eye contact, ball tickling and licking, breast feasting, and then DATY. I then moved for the finale of a tit wank in between her firm breasts. Julia held her breasts together and I placed my dock and humped her chest. They felt warm and yielded to the pressure of my cock. I came in her mouth, face and upper chest.

My third session was created when I was aroused watching Julia give a slurpy noisy blow job and hard pounding doggy style sex to a lucky guy in the kino. I was watching the porno movie minding my own business but could not help looking over to see Julia suck the guy deeply into her mouth for 5 minutes and then the guy mount her from behind for 5 minutes as she groaned in pleasure. She looked so good bent over on her hands and knees. The guy came and they cleaned up. How neat was that to be doing it at the movies? I just wanted a bit of the same from my favorite blonde of the night. I wanted to grope her tits and arse as she sucked me off while I watched the porn movie. I was in Heaven. I knew from observation that as soon as she had gotten paid by that guy and had cleaned up she would trawl the kino looking for another customer. All I had to do was sit tight until she returned. And behold in under 10 minutes she was back in the kino and I indicated for her to come over and sit with me on the mattress. She went into action and lowered her pussy onto my face so I could give her a tonguing. We then proceeded to DFK and intimate fondling. Julia then opened up my towel covering and proceeded to perform a fantastic deep blow job. After a bit of BBBJ with excellent eye contact we went to a room neat to the kino and carried on in a long 69 session. I enjoyed immensely having access to her arse as she does have a very nice one. I then wanted to finish with another tit wank as the last one was so good. Julia held her breasts together to create furrow for me to plough and away I went. Once again I finished with CIM as I was so close to her pretty mouth.

My fourth session with Julia started at the intersection of the kino, the buffet area, the smoking room on the path to the main bar area. I caught Julia and Corrina her dark haired friend after they had a duo session with a lucky guy. I opted for Julia again and we went to the kino to get re-acquainted again. After a quick feel and DFK it was BBBJ and BLS and playing with my arse. Julia said that she had come once today. She knew I liked my tit wanks so did that one me as I laid down and alternated between BBBJ and tit wanking me. I eventually completed by CIM with Julia. Julia and I then had a post coital chat.

My thoughts on Julia

I had supper sitting chatting with Julia from the Ukraine at the bar at the front of house. I was in my blue towel around my waist and she totally naked eating together like this was the most natural thing to do in the world. She looked so melt in the mouth with her firm enhanced D cups on show. I restrained myself from wanting to reach over to fondle and caress her as we ate. She did have such lovely warm soft skin. If there was a girl at Palace that would make me go back it would Julia for her skills.
For come in mouth (CIM) most girls I found will keep sucking until you are dry, then they will spit your jism into a paper towel or tissue. I do not recall having experienced CIM with swallow at any of the FKKs. I do think it is worth it since the feeling is quite sensational.

Other Girls Sighted at FKK Palace

One duo of blondes was inseparable. One had fizzy blonde hair, C cup, slim leggy and had slight angular facial profile. The other was a petite cute blonde with straight hair also with C cups and a rounder figure.

Most of the girls just lie around waiting for business. I would do the same as it is hard to keep up energy levels for the long periods between being picked by punters for sessions, whereas some girls were quite determined like Julia of Ukraine working the room with her charms. Other girls like Vicky from Romania in the black and white loin band around her waist or Carla from Greece kept asking again and again whether I was ready for a session with them.

Vanessa from Romania who was oh so blonde and skinny with B cup tits and small arse, pretty face looked like would be a tight sexual experience as she was so slim. Another girl for the “to do next time” list.

Corrina from Ukraine who was Julia of Ukraine’s friend had dark hair and Julia and Corrina asked me several times if I would like to do them both. On reflection sales of lesbian show or duos were common. Yes I would go for such a session but the ones that I have done in the past never really lived up to the expectation or provided the fulfillment as I have only the one dick to insert in a girl. I do like to image of one girl sucking my shaft while the other sucked and licked my balls as I watch them both like a King surveying his domain. Corrina had black hair, C cup tits, slim and tall.

I also saw and spoke to Anastasia from Greece who was a bottle blonde. A Pamela from Havana, Cuba and a couple of other Brazilians whose names I forget.

A couple of the girls in the sessions in the room asked out of politeness if I wanted a blowjob with a condom but when said that without was preferred did not have a problem and went to work with gusto. I like a blowjob without a condom as it does feel much better and more natural and the visuals are stunning.

Conclusion

I stayed 8 hours in total at FKK Palace on the evening of Thursday, 20 March 2008 arriving at 6:30pm and leaving at 2:30am by taxi (15 euro back to hotel). If I was staying at the Hotel Fleming it would just be a short walk across the alleyway as it is that close!! The Palace experience was bliss and is a memory that I will cherish as my first ever FKK. I did 6 sessions and completed 5 times. I opted not to complete on one session as I wanted to save my pop for later but found that I had three more pops after that one showing how such a good time I was having. A relatively good line up of girls and it is such a novelty to see all the girls naked for the eye to see. It really is a man's paradise as one of the girls said to me.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

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Nick The G
03-30-08, 12:49
I was not the best organized. I have only myself to blame prioritizing my work over my personal life. Even your personal life ends up in a lot of work! :-)
Very good minutes of your "personal life business trip", you gave a lot of attention to all the details, sure you must have spent some time on writing it!
So, why not send it to Playboy magazine (An Englishmans visit to the german FKK-Wonderland in Hessia) and earn some money too? :-)


Adriana had long mid waist auburn hair, slim, tall with C cup natural breasts which have been a good handful to hold. .....

...... We moved to DATY where I went to work on her pussy. Adriana lay back and enjoyed the attention and came gracefully by burying my head in between her clenched thighs. She took a minute to catch her breath then thank me profusely for the release.
Adriana is a good worker and definitely VFM in the Palace environment. You cannot go wrong here with this beautiful girl.Good to hear that Adriana is still alive and working there! I do know her quite well from her days in FKK-World in Pohlheim, so I can tell you that her breasts have been enhanced to quite an extent way back in 2005. But never mind! It feels good and she is really sexy and can be hot too!
Adriana has developed herself into the format of a very professional sex-worker and good actress. So, no problem for her to simulate an orgasm!


I said for her to spread the word to her friends and true to her word she did as I had a couple of girls later ask me for a session to see what Adriana was talking about.You seem to like your own phantasies very much.
Guess, what Adriana most probably, if at all, told the other girls about you ? :-)

Hessen Bub
03-30-08, 17:19
Good to hear that Adriana is still alive and working there! I do know her quite well from her days in FKK-World in Pohlheim, so I can tell you that her breasts have been enhanced to quite an extent way back in 2005. But never mind! It feels good and she is really sexy and can be hot too!


You can have a look at her on the Palace homepage:

http://www.the-palace.de/pics/girls/300/l.jpg

HB

Everhard
03-30-08, 22:04
It will be my very own Capitan James T Kirk’s log of my travels.Phew That's an exhaustive report you got there. A newbie or even an idiot would find it hard to get lost following your directions :-). Even your non-sex activities were interesting to read about. I will be looking forward to future reports. Keep'em coming!

Member #1071
03-31-08, 06:23
A high distinction report indeed!!!

Nick The G
03-31-08, 12:04
You can have a look at her on the Palace homepageActually, I like the other pic more with the blue background. This one was taken, when she had hair extensions for a while.
But I cannot establish a link to show it here!

Basketcase
03-31-08, 23:08
A high distinction report indeed!!!Thank you for the feedback Member #1071. I appreciate it.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Basketcase
03-31-08, 23:15
Phew That's an exhaustive report you got there. A newbie or even an idiot would find it hard to get lost following your directions :-).

Hi Everhard. Thank you for the feedback. Its appreciated. I am a newbie as well. This was my first trip to Hessen for the Frankfurt FKKs and wanted to see if I could do it with my research and reading in between the lines of the comments made. I hope that a newbie could use my notes on how to get to Palace and what to expect when they get there.

As I said its my record of what the set up was like and will form a fond memory for my twilight years.


Even your non-sex activities were interesting to read about. I will be looking forward to future reports. Keep'em coming!Thanks, I wanted to record my trial and tribulations. Glad that they were of interest. Do not worry as I have now set the scene for my travels my comments on the logistics will be much less and will focus more on the events and most importantly on the girls!!

There will be more reports to come across the NRW sauna Clubs and Hessen FKKs as I travel around. I just need to find the time to write them in between personal life and work.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Basketcase
03-31-08, 23:32
Hi Nick The G,

How are you doing? I hope that you are well.


Even your personal life ends up in a lot of work! :-) Thanks for the reminder. As we always hear it is a matter of balance.


Very good minutes of your "personal life business trip", you gave a lot of attention to all the details, sure you must have spent some time on writing it! The details are there to act as a reminder of the trip for me and are also there to give back to this online community for those that are to come after.


So, why not send it to Playboy magazine (An Englishmans visit to the german FKK-Wonderland in Hessia) and earn some money too? :-) Good idea. I have no idea how to go about doing that.

No, but seriously I am just happy to have it on this forum as my addition to the collective experience and maybe some people will get some use from it. As time goes on my writing will hopefully improve.


Good to hear that Adriana is still alive and working there! I do know her quite well from her days in FKK-World in Pohlheim, so I can tell you that her breasts have been enhanced to quite an extent way back in 2005. But never mind! It feels good and she is really sexy and can be hot too!Sorry I did not notice the enhancement. Adriana’s boobs to me appeared all in proportion to her body build and they felt quite good to me. Maybe I need to go back and try them out again. I am actually back in Frankfurt in 2 weeks time.


Adriana has developed herself into the format of a very professional sex-worker and good actress. So, no problem for her to simulate an orgasm! Thank you for the reality check. That is what my good friends do for me when we go out together or when I relate my experiences to them. I do a lot more adventuring than they do but they have been mongering for a good 15 years more than me so is old hands at dealing with the fakes from the genuine article. LOL.


You seem to like your own phantasies very much.
Guess, what Adriana most probably, if at all, told the other girls about you ? :-) I am trying not to guess to hard. LOL.

I hope to catch up with you one day Nick The G and swap stories.

Kind regards

Londbasketcase

Vito Corleone
04-02-08, 02:06
Wassup London,

Great report. Julia is really Romanian, but who cares. She is notorious for below average service & quick sessions, but I just had to bang that hot bod during my last visit in Feb. I look forward to reading your future reports.

Ortos
04-02-08, 06:37
Wassup London,

Great report. Julia is really Romanian, but who cares. She is notorious for below average service & quick sessions, but I just had to bang that hot bod during my last visit in Feb. I look forward to reading your future reports.

I also agree it is a superb clustre of reports Londonbasketcase has provided! But just to clarify, again, Julia is as Romanian as they come, even lying/purposely mis-leading you about her real origin. Just to confirm it: She hangs out with Corrina, also a Romanian. Are they really going around saying they are from Ukraine??? LOL! At least they dropped the old Spain thing, eh? Anyway, glad you discovered the joys of the Palace kino. Join the club...

Also interesting is the fact that Linda does do a cameo appearance at her original nesting ground Palace now and again. She originally worked at Palace now for the past two-odd years, before she moved to Oase fairly recently and changed her name there to Adrianna. Nice to see she bounces back between both clubs now.

Ortos

Chicafan
04-02-08, 07:05
Julia is as Romanian as they come, even lying/purposely mis-leading you about her real origin. Just to confirm it: She hangs out with Corrina, also a Romanian.

There are a Julia and Corina from Romania working at PHG in NWR lately and had recently moved to Frankfurt from Stuttgart so the commute to Oedt was not as far. They were two weeks on, then off and back to Frankfurt. But if is the same two they are only recently working at Palace- probably since January. Two different sets of Romanian girls?

Basketcase
04-02-08, 07:54
Wassup London,

Great report. Julia is really Romanian, but who cares. She is notorious for below average service & quick sessions, but I just had to bang that hot bod during my last visit in Feb. I look forward to reading your future reports.Hi Vito Corleone,

I am not going to demur with whether she is Romanian. If a girl tells me she is from the Ukraine then I am not going to argue with her. When I dined with her I asked about the Ukraine and she did not have much to say. I left it at that since if a girl does not want to talk about her personal life then that is fine. Its not like we were on a date.

I kind of guessed that she was a processor as I was estimating her sessions before I took the plunge at about 7-15 minutes in the main. I was probably the same but when you are in the room sometimes I lose track of the time.

I had to do the same as you. In the lounge at Palace she looked one of the best of the line up and I too had to bang thta hot body. It was so tight and toned.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Ortos
04-02-08, 13:34
There are a Julia and Corina from Romania working at PHG in NWR lately and had recently moved to Frankfurt from Stuttgart so the commute to Oedt was not as far. They were two weeks on, then off and back to Frankfurt. But if is the same two they are only recently working at Palace- probably since January. Two different sets of Romanian girls?

The Julia LBC describes, the one with Chinese characters tattooed on spine, has been around the Frankfurt area for at least 4 years. She started at World, where she was quite a good provider early on. Then, soon after her boob job and bleached blonde hair, she moved to Palace where she is generally known to be one of the old officers of the Royal Palace Brigade of Sharks. But interesting: Now she deliberately misleads English-speaking guys that she is from Ukraine --next time just ask her something in Russian and see how she reacts! Also interesting: She can give good service when she wants to.

You can often figure out a girl's true nationality by sussing out the company she keeps. Corina to my knowledge makes no pretense about being Romanian and is probably a damn good provider.

Londonbasketcase: I guess she likes you! I am pleased you were able to connect with her. I did for a while, now we just smile at each other, knowing smiles both of us...

Ortos

Basketcase
04-02-08, 20:45
I also agree it is a superb clustre of reports Londonbasketcase has provided! But just to clarify, again, Julia is as Romanian as they come, even lying/purposely mis-leading you about her real origin. Just to confirm it: She hangs out with Corrina, also a Romanian. Are they really going around saying they are from Ukraine??? LOL! At least they dropped the old Spain thing, eh? Anyway, glad you discovered the joys of the Palace kino. Join the club...Hi Ortos,

I have more reports to come on World, back to Oase twice more and then Palace once more during my Easter break from London. I am just finding it hard to concentrate and finish them as I am now back at work and juggling long hours again. In fact I am finding it hard to concentrate full stop as I aching to go back to Frankfurt so much so that I booked a quick trip back for a dirty weekend 11-13 April. I cannot believe why I kept away for so long.

I have known about FKKs since 2002 but never had the courage to take the plunge to go. I have mainly been on the London private party scene where you make an evening of it with between 2-25 girls offering lapdances and HJs, CBJ, BBBJ, DATY and FS.

I am probably gay (NOT!!!). When I was in Italy on holiday not too long ago I had a interesting man ask me out and take me back to his hotel room calling me a beautiful boy. I got to his room then finally realised what being friendly meant when he wanted to take photos of me naked. I made my excuses and left. LOL.

I hope to see Lina at Oase again. Pure GFE she is.

I also would like to see Julia of Romania/Ukraine/Spain again as she did something with her mouth on my shaft and her fingers covered in oil massaging my balls that just drained the semen from me until I was gasping.

Julia's friend was Corrina and the both of them were trying to sell me a threesome. I could not handle two girls. I am no Ron Jeremy or Frank Perry from Private.

I took it that they were both Ukrainian. I do not mind what they were in terms of nationality. Equal opportunities provided that they push my buttons visually and give a good service.


Also interesting is the fact that Linda does do a cameo appearance at her original nesting ground Palace now and again. She originally worked at Palace now for the past two-odd years, before she moved to Oase fairly recently and changed her name there to Adrianna. Nice to see she bounces back between both clubs now.

OrtosYes I had Linda down as at Oase, but I am sure that it was Linda that I sessioned with. All the extrinsic evidence was there to indicate that it was she. I was delighted.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Basketcase
04-02-08, 21:05
the julia lbc describes, the one with chinese characters tattooed on spine, has been around the frankfurt area for at least 4 years. she started at world, where she was quite a good provider early on. then, soon after her boob job and bleached blonde hair, she moved to palace where she is generally known to be one of the old officers of the royal palace brigade of sharks. but interesting: now she deliberately misleads english-speaking guys that she is from ukraine --next time just ask her something in russian and see how she reacts! also interesting: she can give good service when she wants to.ortos, thank you for the background history on julia. this helps build a picture. to me she gave good service but not so giving of time. pretty much once you come then you are out. i think i had good sessions that took in the 30 minutes because of the speed and activity i was doing on both her and me.

i did note that she was doing a rapid series of sessions with guys from anywhere between 7-15 minutes a time. it was like the wallen in amsterdam where its all about turnover of guys to generate cold hard cash. julia was raking it in with her excellent tight and toned body withb big firm d breasts. she always walked around totally naked showing her confidence in her abilities and looks. you have got to admire that.


you can often figure out a girl's true nationality by sussing out the company she keeps. corina to my knowledge makes no pretense about being romanian and is probably a damn good provider.i was not in the best frame to play detective on my first time to a fkk and my first time at palace. i will try to learn and use these techniques next time.


londonbasketcase: i guess she likes you! i am pleased you were able to connect with her. i did for a while, now we just smile at each other, knowing smiles both of us...

ortosortos, the jury is out on whether she liked me. i think she liked it that i was paying each session at 100€ a time. lol. we did dine together but her english wasn't the best and my ukrainian, russian or romanian was not proficient neither. julia did not ask to see me the next day like another girl did. i do want to see her again because of the hot body and the amazing thing she did to my sensitive areas. the dirty good girl.

i must admit it was a bit hard talkign to her and trying to a get response conversationally. you just have to find a breach in the wall.

i punt for ages and when i find something that i like no matter if she is not a gfe or there is no connection i have got to go back. its punishment to get to the pleasure if that makes sense.

kind regards

londonbasketcase

Basketcase
04-02-08, 21:07
the julia lbc describes, the one with chinese characters tattooed on spine, has been around the frankfurt area for at least 4 years. she started at world, where she was quite a good provider early on. then, soon after her boob job and bleached blonde hair, she moved to palace where she is generally known to be one of the old officers of the royal palace brigade of sharks. but interesting: now she deliberately misleads english-speaking guys that she is from ukraine --next time just ask her something in russian and see how she reacts! also interesting: she can give good service when she wants to.ortos, thank you for the background history on julia. this helps build a picture. to me she gave good service but not so giving of time. pretty much once you come then you are out. i think i had good sessions that took in the 30 minutes because of the speed and activity i was doing on both her and me.

i did note that she was doing a rapid series of sessions with guys from anywhere between 7-15 minutes a time. it was like the wallen in amsterdam where its all about turnover of guys to generate cold hard cash. julia was raking it in with her excellent tight and toned body withb big firm d breasts. she always walked around totally naked showing her confidence in her abilities and looks. you have got to admire that.


you can often figure out a girl's true nationality by sussing out the company she keeps. corina to my knowledge makes no pretense about being romanian and is probably a damn good provider.i was not in the best frame to play detective on my first time to a fkk and my first time at palace. i will try to learn and use these techniques next time.


londonbasketcase: i guess she likes you! i am pleased you were able to connect with her. i did for a while, now we just smile at each other, knowing smiles both of us...

ortosortos, the jury is out on whether she liked me. i think she liked it that i was paying each session at 100€ a time. lol. we did dine together but her english wasn't the best and my ukrainian, russian or romanian was not proficient neither. julia did not ask to see me the next day like another girl did. i do want to see her again because of the hot body and the amazing thing she did to my sensitive areas. the dirty good girl.

i must admit it was a bit hard talkign to her and trying to a get response conversationally. you just have to find a breach in the wall.

i punt for ages and when i find something that i like no matter if she is not a gfe or there is no connection i have got to go back. its punishment to get to the pleasure if that makes sense.

kind regards

londonbasketcase

Putantour
04-03-08, 07:03
Hey man! You have made really good reports, thank you very much.
You don't have to justify the fact that you've liked so much Julia, anyone likes what is in his taste. Certainly, I've never been at Palace, but reading from Ortos about this Julia, it remember me Sunny at Oase...and you've hit also Sunny, and you liked it...
My first 2 times in FKK I was looking for the girls supermodel-pornstar type, but with some more experience I've knew that I prefer another type of approach and performance.
I've miss her, times ago, only because I try to treat the price for 1 hour "all inclusive", and she started screaming like a demon, and I've sent her to hell. After that I've been a pair of time at Oase, and look at her best record: the longest session I've seen, stand up from the bar to return back with the "lucky guy" it's been 13 minutes. The shortest 7, and I bet that she gained 150...

I'll be passing from Frankfurt the night of 24 April, and I don't know what to hit: I already know Oase, but never been at Palace or World. Friend of mine told me that he prefer so much World,... please some suggestion, and maybe meet someone there!

Basketcase
04-03-08, 07:24
Hey man! You have made really good reports, thank you very much.I try to do my best to return back to this community. Thank you for the comment.


You don't have to justify the fact that you've liked so much Julia, anyone likes what is in his taste. Certainly, I've never been at Palace, but reading from Ortos about this Julia, it remember me Sunny at Oase...and you've hit also Sunny, and you liked it...Thank you for the support Putantour. Yes funnily enough I have seen both Julia at Palace and then Sunny at Oase and did more than one session with eqach. They just clicked my buttons visually.


My first 2 times in FKK I was looking for the girls supermodel-pornstar type, but with some more experience I've knew that I prefer another type of approach and performance. I admit that as I am new to this game that I have to go for the good visuals as I do not know much different. If I can find a girl with great visuals that appeals to my discerning taste or non discerning taste for that matter and excellent service then I have hit the mother lode and I wil be forever coming back to spend all my hard earned cash.


I've miss her, times ago, only because I try to treat the price for 1 hour "all inclusive", and she started screaming like a demon, and I've sent her to hell.Sounds like there was a bit of conflict over negotiations. I understood that although thee are standard extras that the girls are independents and so its possible to drive a different bargain. Sorry to know that flexibility in pricing is not possible.


After that I've been a pair of time at Oase, and look at her best record: the longest session I've seen, stand up from the bar to return back with the "lucky guy" it's been 13 minutes. The shortest 7, and I bet that she gained 150...That sounded like what Julia was processing at Palace. I think she was doing rapid succession of guys in 7-15 minutes. When I was waiting in between rounds for Julia I would see her go off with a guy then feel down as I had to wait half an hour for her again then 10 minutes later see her back in circulation from the room. LOL. My mind suggests that they were all quick suck and fuck sessions for 50€.


I'll be passing from Frankfurt the night of 24 April, and I don't know what to hit: I already know Oase, but never been at Palace or World. Friend of mine told me that he prefer so much World,... please some suggestion, and maybe meet someone there! I am starting my 5 day NRW tour on 24 April so I am sorry I cannot join you in Hessen. I have posted my reports on Oase (I understand that you have seen my report there)and Palace but also have my World report to come with particular emphasis on the public transport I took getting there. I have also my reports for my two other Oase visits and Palace visit that I just need to sit down and nail. Hopefully these reports may help you decide.

All I can say if that if the curiosity is biting at you its probbaly better to go and see for yourself rather than rely on what others are saying. You will always having that nagging doubt that you have missed something. Unless you liked your tried and true venue. I forced myself to do all three Palce, Oase and World before circliing back to the ones I liked.

One man's meat is another man's poison as I have oft heard quoted here.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Putantour
04-03-08, 08:59
Yes, I'm sure I'll finish to World, also because I'll be coming down from Hannover in the afternoon (and is "most on the road"), and I'll have the car + GPS, so no problem with transport.
I'll be i Koln the night of 23 April, and I'll go to Traum-Paradies.

Have fun.

Hessen Bub
04-03-08, 09:55
Just to clarify: This is Julia (Gulia) from Romania, formerly FKK-World and at Palace for the last 2 or 3 years.

HB

Nick The G
04-03-08, 11:16
Just to clarify: This is Julia (Gulia) from Romania, formerly FKK-World and at Palace for the last 2 or 3 years.

HBThese 2 photos seem to be crops from private photos!

You think it is a good idea to publish those here in a Sex Forum. Do you have explicit permission to do so from Julia?

I don't know if Julia is her true name, but when we write here our reports, we write about our impressions and we use names, that are nicknames, and we mention names, that are nicknames.

But her face is her face, independant of any name!

If I had a photo of you, hessenbub (which of course I have in my mind!), I would publish it right now here too. So it would be obvious for Julia or other girls, who publishes these photos, because they know your face very well! :-)
How would you feel about that?

If Julia would like to have photos in the internet to support her business, she could do so easily via the website of the Palace in Frankfurt and she would have the choice in which way she wants to present herself!

I strongly recommend removing those photos immediately!

Hessen Bub
04-03-08, 12:30
These 2 photos seem to be crops from private photos!
You think it is a good idea to publish those here in a Sex Forum. Do you have explicit permission to do so from Julia?

These pictures come from a public website, I would call the site very questionable. There's more pictures from Julia and other Romanian girls, with and without clothes. If the pictures there are posted with her knowledge and permission I do not know. If an admin wants me to give provide the link, I will do so. But I will not provide the link here in public.

Anyway - Julia is NOT her real name, that's for sure. If the picture should be removed - do so.

And by the way: I do not have any picture of me published on a public website, so there would be a difference if you would post a picture of me here or in any other webspace.

HB

P.S.: I have reported my post with the pictures to the moderators in order to decide whether to keep the pictures or not.

Nick The G
04-03-08, 14:27
These pictures come from a public website, I would call the site very questionable. ..... But I will not provide the link here in public.Are you confused :-) or are you trying to confuse us? :-(
To refer to another site, is a bad excuse, you don't want to be responsible for what you do. You posted the photos here!

I think the answer is pretty simple, ask yourself just the two questions:
What is the difference (in value) between a private photo of you in this forum and a photo of Julia?
Why are you interested in posting (or why do you post) a photo of Julia here and why are you afraid that a photo of you could be shown here?

Since I work a lot with photos professionally, I would like to remind everybody here in this forum to respect the personal rights of a private person.

in english:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_release
The following rules of thumb are valid in most cases:
"The act of taking a photo of someone in a public setting without a model release, or of viewing or non-commercially showing such a photo in private, generally does not create legal exposure, at least in the United States."
"as soon as the person can recognise itself, the picture is not allowed for sale and publication without the needed written agreement / contract with the model. Publishing an identifiable photo of a person without a model release signed by that person can result in civil liability for whoever publishes the photograph.

in german:
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~uzadow/recht/raebild.html
http://www.fotorecht.de/publikationen/paparazzi.html
http://www.sakowski.de/skripte/eig_bild.html


If the pictures there are posted with her knowledge and permission I do not know. Simple solution: why not ask her the next time you meet her in Palace? :-) :-)

Admin
04-03-08, 17:50
Hi Nick the G and everyone else,

Nick, with all due respect, your argument is refuted by your own quote:


The following rules of thumb are valid in most cases:

"The act of taking a photo of someone in a public setting without a model release, or of viewing or non-commercially showing such a photo in private, generally does not create legal exposure, at least in the United States."
The photos posted by Hessen Bub were clearly taken in a public place.

In the future, I wound sincerely appreciate it if you would refrain from chastising Forum Members and otherwise discouraging them from posting photos.

Additional, in this case

Thanks,

Jackson

Nick The G
04-03-08, 20:08
[blue]Nick, with all due respect, your argument is refuted by your own quote: The photos posted by Hessen Bub were clearly taken in a public place.Sorry, with all due respect, you just took from what I cited what you want to see!
So please read again: The first sentence was only about taking photos, the other two about publishing those photos (after they have been taken :-) !
With regards to legal matters, this is really a big difference! Like it or not!

To be precise: it is allowed to take those fotos for private use. It is not allowed to publish them, e.g. in a print medium or in the internet without the explicit consent (best in written form) given by the person who can be identified on those photos. If a person finds out, that his or her photo has been published (e.g. in this forum) without explicit consent, they have the right to ask/force you to remove it. I'm pretty sure you know that.

A minimum sort of consent can be stated when the person depicted on the photo was willing to accept money for the purpose of those photos with his/her body or her/his face on them to be taken!

I understand that many of the guys here don't like this message! :-)

Using for example the Google search engine, all reports and all text in this forum can be searched with the respective key words. This is really public, worldwide! Personally, I find it is a big difference, if we post written reports here. Nobody knows if the stories are true that have been written and posted. Nickname X fucks with artist name Y. A huge amount of talent - alone with names - around here! A maze of worldwide phantasies on the art of buying and practicing sex. With lots of supermen and superwomen. :-)

But when it comes down to showing photos in worldwide accessible data bases (like this forum here), those people on the photos can be clearly identified and related to this very special context of PaySex. This is exactly what violates their personal rights. And what really noone of us writers wants to happen to ourselves too!

If a person clearly expresses its will, that it want it, then o.k.

Dedalus
04-04-08, 00:45
Simple solution: why not ask her the next time you meet her in Palace? :-) :-)


Hey,

Since I am too damn dumb to understand even the simplest aspects of any legal system, I will refrain from commenting on the legality of HB's photo sharing.

Also I am way too morally bankrupt to be able to fairly comment on THAT aspect of this situation.

I will say this: Knowing Julia somewhat and having had a session or two with her in the past, I am almost willing to bet that if these photos appearing in this or any other forum make it possible for her to score a bit more whomp 'em from a customer or three, then I suspect she wouldn't care.
She's a business woman and LONG past being innocent or naive. The days of sweet, innocent Julia are long since vorbei. She is pretty hardcore now.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Akibono
04-04-08, 02:36
There is not really a distinction between taking photos and publishing them, as long as the photos were taken in a public place. If there were, paparizzi would not be able to publish those photos. I know there is a bit of difference between public figures and the general public, but I don't this would apply here. Also, there is nothing to imply that HB is disparaging the person.

I have much more problem with people photographing window girls in the RLD of Amsterdam and publishing them.

Euro100
04-04-08, 03:47
I understand that many of the guys here don't like this message! :-)


Dude, posting photos is done all over this forum. Just go to the Brazil part and you will see daily posts of photos.

But I accept that you have higher moral standards. That's OK by me. What I do not understand is why you keep logging in to this site ...

euro (who has never posted a photo and doesn't even own a camera)

Nick The G
04-04-08, 10:05
I am almost willing to bet that if these photos appearing in this or any other forum make it possible for her to score a bit more whomp 'em from a customer or three, then I suspect she wouldn't care.
She's a business woman and LONG past being innocent or naive. The days of sweet, innocent Julia are long since vorbei. She is pretty hardcore now.Maybe with these sentences you are talking more about Dedalus than Julia ! :-) :-)
True, she is old enough to take care of her own business, very true! So why you want to take away that responsibility from her? I wouldn't be so sure that she likes this kind of "help" offered by Hessenbub and you. :-)
I just looked again on the website of the "Palace", there are no photos of Julia (Giulia) there. Need more explanations?

When Hessenbub was posting the photo of Adriana, it was a different situation because everybody can see this and two other beautiful and erotic photos of her on the website of Palace. So all of us can enjoy visually the beautiful body and the long hair.
But you will not see Adrianas face there! Why? Because she doesn't want it! Her photos were obviously taken for the purpose to support her business.

Like all of us here, she and Julia have a private life too.

@ Akibono and Euro 100:
As I said: I am working professionally with photos and I was talking about the legal situation. This has nothing to do with "higher moral standards".

I understand that - in this respect - there are mostly amateurs around here who hide themselves behind their nick names and don't like to know and don't care about what they are allowed to do with photos.

If anyone wants to be informed, it is quite easy nowadays, lots of information on that topic can be found on the websites of foto databases, photographers organisations or lawyers in the internet.


Dude, posting photos is done all over this forum. Just go to the Brazil part and you will see daily posts of photos. .....
What I do not understand is why you keep logging in to this site ...If I were Dedalus, I would answer in his style:
I cannot comment on this since I only contribute in the german FKK section. :-)

Personal rights of people are mistreated in many ways all over the world, day by day. It is our decision if we support this or not, true.
Please read carefully what I posted. You will notice, that I make a clear distinction between
a.) the anonymous art of writing about sex phantasies using nick names
b.) showing photos of real people, especially when the can be identified easily by that photos (face, tattoos, ...).

As we are adult people, we are responsible for what we do. I have contributed enough now with regards to this topic.

Vito Corleone
04-04-08, 10:30
Nick,

You really need to relax & get some poon. We all read your statements & the administrator has told you to drop the issue. I think most of us understand your point of view & some will either agree or disagree. Who cares! Let's get back to the topic of sex, hot looking women & more sex!

Dedalus
04-04-08, 16:39
Maybe with these sentences you are talking more about Dedalus than Julia ! :-) :-)


Hey Nick,

Trust me, my friend. You would need more than those few written snippets to peak into my sick, twisted and bent mind.




True, she is old enough to take care of her own business, very true! So why you want to take away that responsibility from her? I wouldn't be so sure that she likes this kind of "help" offered by Hessenbub and you. :-)
I just looked again on the website of the "Palace", there are no photos of Julia (Giulia) there. Need more explanations?



I have long since stopped providing Julia with help. Weder Finanziell, noch geschäftliche Beratung. I have no stake or real interest either way. I just sit back and observe. As to explanations for Julia's actions; I cannot say. Odd bird that one. Why was she once a great session and is now a substandard shark? Why did she buy a set of headlights when her figure was already quite sexy? Why, why, why? Truth be known, its not really my worry.



When Hessenbub was posting the photo of Adriana, it was a different situation because everybody can see this and two other beautiful and erotic photos of her on the website of Palace. So all of us can enjoy visually the beautiful body and the long hair.
But you will not see Adrianas face there! Why? Because she doesn't want it! Her photos were obviously taken for the purpose to support her business.


If I read HB's post correctly those shots came from a website and not his private collection. It would seem that none of us need HB's photos or this site to see pics of her.




Like all of us here, she and Julia have a private life too.


No doubt. If I were her, then I would guard my privacy a bit better. Her choice, though.



If I were Dedalus, I would answer in his style:
I cannot comment on this since I only contribute in the german FKK section. :-)


Ah, my friend. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. No doubt that whoever you are truly imitating is overwhelmed by such sycophancy.

Cheerio,

Dedalus, again, truly and morally bankrupt

Hessen Bub
04-04-08, 17:41
wow, what a discussion. the pictures do come from a public website. i've never had a sexual relationship with that woman. ;-) (yes, not even a blowjob). if the pictures are not in line with the board rules - take them of. i don't mind, i do know julia/gulia and will avoid her.

i do know to many stories about her, her "friend" anna (former fkkw, then palace, not working just now), [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), carina & co. to feel sorry to have posted these pictures. it is a risk you take when you have lots of pictures posted on shady websites - and that's where they come from. the only thing i did was to make the linkage between the picture and her "nickname" at palace.

hb

p.s.: the difference between a photo of julia and a photo of me: she does look much better ...

Basketcase
04-04-08, 19:09
Nick,

You really need to relax & get some poon. We all read your statements & the administrator has told you to drop the issue. I think most of us understand your point of view & some will either agree or disagree. Who cares! Let's get back to the topic of sex, hot looking women & more sex!Vito Corleone,

You are a man after my own heart. I like pretty girls and I like having sex with them. So true.

Long shall pay for play continue.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Nick The G
04-04-08, 22:17
There is one thing about this discussion, that really amazes me:
I learn so many new english words, I have never used or even heard of before!
So I have to thank all of you native speakers here for getting that benefit! :-)

Dedalus
04-05-08, 00:12
There is one thing about this discussion, that really amazes me:
I learn so many new english words, I have never used or even heard of before!
So I have to thank all of you native speakers here for getting that benefit! :-)

We aim to please.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who can't get enough of the English dictionary

Jackyo
04-05-08, 11:35
Hi,

Learn from the previous post that party treff and Bernds are as good to enjoy as palace.

Please inform if it is far from Flemings hotel next to Palace.

I want to check also these place as well as the Wounderful PALACE
These are very different entities with very different ambiances and club sub-cultures.

I don't recommend visiting Bernds and/or PTs to newbies. You should get a few more visits to the Hessian clubs under your belt before you make that move.

Jackyo
04-05-08, 13:10
Inside she explained her rates, and was quite open about it, but I did not quite understand that what she meant by "slow time" (I. E. GFE) was 50E extra, not just 50E extra because it was an hour. (Yes, I should have asked, if I was not sure.- that was my mistake.) Anyway, she did kiss.- something between DFK and LFK, but not for very long. In my opinion, her performance sort of flirted with GFE without really being it (at one point, she asked me not to stroke her face, because it would mess up her makeup.- geez! ). But what the hell, it was my first for the night and at that point, I was not being too picky. We did the gamut of positions, and the sex was very hot (started with a BBBJ that was very nice). We ended up finishing in just under 30 min, so I figured I owed her 50E since we did not end up spending an hour. (I would not have minded, but once she cleaned me up, she got ready to leave, so I figured I would too, to save some money.) There was a little awkwardness when she reminded me that I had agreed to the GFE for the 50E extra. Replaying it back in my mind, I could see that she was right, although I had not understood it at the time, so I just paid it. Again, my mistake for going along without understanding.- and 50E is a relatively small price to pay in this game. (Heck, if I'd known, I probably would have done it anyway for the GFE.- not that what I got was really GFE, but you get the idea.)
.... and didn't even know it.

A surcharge for GFE? There is no such thing. The 50 Euro pricing for thirty minutes is meant to be all inclusive.

This doesn't happen anywhere else in Germany except at a Laufhaus where they charge your for everything: "I'll take off my top for an additional 10 Euros." "We can change positions for another 20 Euros." That kind of thing.

What will those Palace women think of next?

Jackyo
04-05-08, 13:19
Don't underestimate the traffic problems late afternoon, especially on a Friday. The taxi would probably go via the Autobahn, but it can get heavily congested. (The Verkehr in the club could be pretty awful too. Good luck with your choices.)
Nice play on words: Verkehr.

I was once with a chick at Babylon and during post-coital quiet time she talked about her situation, that she was raising a kid by herself.

She referred to it as a Verkehrsunfall.

I asked if she meant to say that she had conceived in a car.

Jackyo
04-05-08, 13:21
I had this happen to me last year in April of 07, but this was at night time which I suspected could happen but my trip to the palace in 06 was such a good time I didnt even think about it but to here this stuff happen before it gets packed is such a shame. One thing about mongering in Europe is that they are a bit more hardened and straight to business but Im sure there are instances where this isnt so. If I go back to Frankfurt I will definately check out the other major FKK's and just hit some regular night spots while in Frankfurt metro. This is truely sad because I thought The Palace was a real customer oriented place but guess not. The sad thing is guys will still go to this place because it is the only major FKK in town that is accesible.
... are mostly written by folks who don't have anything to compare it to.

Heck, there are guys out there who visit Laufhaeuser who have never indulged in the hobby before who come back with rave reviews too.

Jackyo
04-05-08, 13:28
There were plenty of sharks & girls with bad attitudes, but it is just part of Palace's charm.
Now that is one way to look at it!

My RF contacts do not visit this club, by the way. These are guys who live there and know better.

(I apologize for my late commentary on the posts on this thread but I'm still catching up on my reading after my hiatus.)

Jackyo
04-05-08, 13:36
Having lived on the border between France and Germany, I can only say that a place like Palace in Frankfurt is a Godsend, when one compares it with the shit service one encounters in the red light district of Paris. By that I mean Pigalle. Back in 2004 I had some luck in Pigalle, negociating a 30 minute fuck for 100 euros, but since then it has been rip off city. Last night was my latest crappy experience: After paying 150 euros for two Champagne bottles, the price shared with a friend, the house in question tried to charge me 750 euros for my share for one of the two bottles. They insisted it was an error and I believed them because they tried to cancel the payment. So I must cancel my American credit card because of THEIR fuck up, and when the girl I was with "invited" me to the room, she was uneasy about my removing my pants and shoes. I had just paid her. 150 euros and we did not fuck.compare that with the Palace in Frankfurt, where you can meet some really nice gals who take their time and only charge you 50 euros per HOUR and I say that any complaints about this fine Frankfurt establishment are hogwash. I look oh so forward to returning and meeting with Kim and Phylis. Fuck Paris. An overpriced lovely city for sure. But overprices and annoying.
Blame it on the whole mystique built up around the Folies Bergere and naughty French postcards.

The reality is quite different. The French seem to walk about with black clouds over their heads. I don't know why that is, but though Paris is a beautiful city, it is quite a depressing place, really.

I hate to admit it but I have been victim to this champagne routine too at the Place Pigalle. I was young and stupid, what can I say. I don't go near those places now that I am older and smarter.

Back in the early eighties when I lived there (this was before AIDS), now those were the days!

You approached women standing in doorways on the Rue St. Denis, negotiated services and it was off to the races. The women came in all shapes and sizes, some of whom were just breathtakingly stunning.

Things changed dramatically, post-AIDS. The mix of women has changed (and its not been for the better).

Ortos
04-05-08, 14:10
... are mostly written by folks who don't have anything to compare it to.

Heck, there are guys out there who visit Laufhaeuser who have never indulged in the hobby before who come back with rave reviews too.

I personally like Palace alot and endorse it. I sometimes give it rave reviews and sometimes not. But I do have a large body of experience in other clubs to compare this too, so I think your comment amounts to jumping on the bandwagon (of slagging off Palace). I liken Palace to skiing down a black-diamond piste: There are many moguls, many icy patches and the terrain is steep, so you better know what you are doing! But you can have quite a good run or two here, if you are observant, and play this field right.

Btw Jackyo: When was the last time you personally visited Palace or any other Hessen club? Just curious how up-to-date you are with the scene down there?

Thanks,

Ortos

Dedalus
04-05-08, 15:28
I personally like Palace alot and endorse it. I sometimes give it rave reviews and sometimes not. But I do have a large body of experience in other clubs to compare this too, so I think your comment amounts to jumping on the bandwagon (of slagging off Palace). I liken Palace to skiing down a black-diamond piste: There are many moguls, many icy patches and the terrain is steep, so you better know what you are doing! But you can have quite a good run or two here, if you are observant, and play this field right.

Btw Jackyo: When was the last time you personally visited Palace or any other Hessen club? Just curious how up-to-date you are with the scene down there?

Thanks,

Ortos

Hey Man,

I won't pretend to have been to Palace recently. I try to be more careful with my money. However I do have regular contact with a number of dudes who check in on the place. Sitting with these Gents at World, Oase or any of the NRW clubs and talking about the crap that is going on at Palace is interesting.

Latest (of many!) story came from a Gent that I was talking to the other night in Oase. He went to the room with a cute Romanian who told him that he could get a bad session for 100, or a top, GFE for 200. A 30 minute session, mind you. This guy is a veteran and you have probably seen him at one of your club visits. Of course, he stopped her right there and told her that there was no need to continue and that he knew what the real club prices were. She pitched a ***** and yelled at him as he left.

Were it not for Kim and a few others, he told me that he would completely swear off the place.

Ortos, I know you and you are a buddy. And, if you like Palace and wish to promote it, then I certainly have no problem with that. Hell, I would considered going back to visit Kim, Eva (or whatever her name is now) or Katharin. However one can indeed have a pretty fair idea of what is going on at Palace without necessary awarding the place with one's patronage. I certainly believe you when you say that you have a good time and great sessions there. I also believe the 15 or so other Gents who tell me their horror stories, as well as my own observations within Palace's walls.

Also, (and I am very interested to hear your take on this) while I am more than willing to admit that nearly every club has some sharks, at Palace there seems to be a full-blown scam-scheme going on. "Collusion" is the word I'm looking for. And it is much more difficult to pick out those girls at Palace than at the other clubs.

100 for a crap 30 minute session? At Oase or World or any of the NRW clubs, that girl would be gone.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Hessen Bub
04-05-08, 16:16
100 for a crap 30 minute session? At Oase or World or any of the NRW clubs, that girl would be gone.

That's just not true. There are (and always have been) girls at Oase and World providing bad service. Some of them try to upsell, some don't. Rumours about Romanian girls offering bare back sessions for 30 EUR have been around for years.

Palace for me still has the best line up. Within this line-up you'll find plenty of very good sessions, many average sessions and also not so good sessions and rip-offs. My quota of bad sessions at Palace is not better or worse than at Oase, World, Artemis, Sakura or other clubs. Maybe it is because I am a regular visitor. Newbies: Ask for the prices at the reception and stick to them. Its that easy.

HB

Ortos
04-05-08, 17:47
Hey Man,

I won't pretend to have been to Palace recently. I try to be more careful with my money. However I do have regular contact with a number of dudes who check in on the place. Sitting with these Gents at World, Oase or any of the NRW clubs and talking about the crap that is going on at Palace is interesting.


Cheers,

Dedalus

My dear Friend Dedalus,

You do indeed "have regular contact with a number of dudes who check in on the place" from time to time: like Me and Hessen Bub and other experienced open-minded guys who do NOT fall into some of the traps or land-mines that one can find at any club. I won't speak for HB, but I do very much like Palace and, whilst I recognise some of the shortcommings there, I also see some positives at Palace. One of the main positives is the generally superior line-up day-in/day-out. And btw: Palace is a very different place before, say, 20.00.

I've long read with particular interest your own comments about Palace and I dare say that you, Dedalus, along with a few others are actually biased against Palace and you carry some hostility towards the place which you may not be aware of (or perhaps you are?), but it comes out clearly in your writing. It is clear you hate the place, or hate the people who run it or something on that order. Is this a fair comment? I really am not trying to be arrogant or tell you what you think/feel; it just seems to come out that way and you seem to overlook the fact that what goes on at Palace could and does go on in almost every club out there, even your precious GT.

Often we hear/read such indignant commentary about Palace and esp. the utter audacity of the managment to charge 10E more than other clubs for Eintritt, but then it is no problem to go to, say, Artemis where the prices rival or even exceed Palace. Or the fact that you might pay more to get into Palace, but you end up saving three times that in lesser travel fees and the advantage to leave/re-enter club and do things in an urban centre before going back to session more in a fully re-charged state.

And I am not trying to promote Palace more than any other club: I like them all. But I am just trying to point out that there are several experienced mongers (Ortos, Hessen Bub, Radler, etc.) out there who disagree with the kind of blanket propaganda being spread about this club in particular.

Now to balance things, I would point out that during my own most recent trip to FFM, I only went to Palace one day/night, whereas I spent multiple visits to both Oase and World. But maybe next time I will spend more time at World than Oase or Palace, or I will be mostly at Palace or who knows? It depends on the girls and relationships I pick up and the individual vibes of the clubs at any given time.

Lastly, and I've said this before: It is not the club that is more GFE or more of a rip-off or more prone to produce "crap sessions." It is the girls you or I select and how we interact with them and the signals we give off etc. that produce the results. I don't look for the management of a club to clean up after me if I make the mistakes in picking the wrong girl or if I don't clarify what I want and how much it costs, etc. pre-session. If I double fault on the tennis court it is MY own fault. You know as well as I that these girls can/do move around between clubs. So I've seen, e.g. this Eva from Danmark in World, Palace and Oase. Linda of Czech has now been sighted at both Oase and Palace. Adrianna the Hungarian left World and is now at Palace. Kathyrn was ex-Oase and now works only at Palace. There are a host of free-lance girls who only come to Palace from Koln, D-dorf, Dortmund, whatever. There are also a hell of alot of sharks at Palace too. You can see them a mile away.

This story of your friend who walked out on the Romanian girl: I've done the same in Oase recently. I should have known better when I first started to move towards the room with her. But I (and many others of us) do not take shit regardless of which club it is in.

You got to know how to ski different slopes; you got to know how to play different styles at different poker tables.

Please just recognise that sometimes one's own personal hostility towards a place clouds our logic and reasoning...a little bit at least.

Ortos

Hessen Bub
04-05-08, 18:28
@Ortos: Palace is my favorite club. I like the interior, the atmosphere, the girls, the new rooms, the cleanliness, the food, the sauna. If it had an outside area it would be great.

There's so many girls there from World, Oase, GoldenTime, Happy Garden. Do they all become sharks as soon as they enter Palace? Milena, Eva, Vanessa, Vicky/Regina, Indira, Georgia, Ruby, Francesca, Katrin and and and? I don't think so. I've not been at FKK-World for a year now, but from what I hear it is at least very slow (from a women's perspective) and you do not find such a great variety in girls as you do at Oase or Palace or Artemis.

I do have one theorie: There's quite a lot of "half-legal" girls at World. They do not work 100% for their own bank-account and do not have the choice to go to a different club. So they do have to be very careful not to be thrown out of the club. Maybe that's a reason why (if this is really the case) there's less sharks at World. It's just a thought, maybe I'm 100% wrong.

HB

Love Palace
04-05-08, 18:43
Visiting Palace for many years I have had the best experiences here.Threated well and only twice had to say no to sharks after asking price.Visited Oase for the first time last year, this was a very good experience, but had to pay more attention as I was not a regular costumer.Oase or Palace? Yes, please!

Love the atmosphere at Palace and look forward to the garden in Oase this summer.
I wonder why people who no longer visit Palace still worries about what they
think is bad service. It must be a kind of love-hate relationship.

Ekliges Lauern
04-05-08, 19:07
You got to know how to ski different slopes; you got to know how to play different styles at different poker tables.


Exactly.

Palace works for me and I seem to have learned to ski that slope and play that table well. Once in a great while, I have a bad session, but in the end it's only 50E.

I've had bad sessions at GT and Oase as well. Probably a little higher percentage for me than at Palace. I tend to chalk it up to two factors. I'm just not as well known at these clubs and my radar isn't as highly tuned to those clubs. But I still enjoy GT and Palace as well.

The club I don't get is Hof. It doesn't work for me. Others swear by it and I'm not about to try to disuade them. Frankly, I'd rather be at Freude, a club hardly anyone ever talks about.

Bottom line, it's a matter of personal taste. And if you are a newbee, just have your guard up (this goes for Palace, Oase and GT) and your radar turned up high until you get your FKK legs.

Marie Anna
04-05-08, 20:22
is this small tanned (brown) girl ELLA from Romania still around?

Jackyo
04-05-08, 23:33
btw jackyo: when was the last time you personally visited palace or any other hessen club? just curious how up-to-date you are with the scene down there?

thanks,

ortos
... when i happen to have a day to kill before i catch a flight at fra.

by preference, i make arrangements not to have to catch a flight at fra.

thank goodness for the high speed train which links dus hbf and the fra airport and which can get you there in time to catch a midmorning flight.

why would one want to waste a precious day which could be spent elsewhere in germany?

besides, i find frankfurt lacking in charm.

give me a day in wuppertal (where cocoon is) any time. at least it has a schwebebahn.

if we were ever to synchronize things properly, i would be interested in seeing this club from your perspective.

i'll bring the shark repellent. :)

i didn't answer your question: the last time i visited a club in hessen was probably in 06. i have suceeded in keeping up this streak since then and i have every intention of not breaking the streak.

my rf contacts literally have to drag me to hessen kicking and screaming. if they didn't offer to drive me there (and pay for the gas as well), i'd not go. hessen's advantage is that it is centrally located and so if i am to meet up with w from mannheim, a club in hessen is where i would link up with him.

most germans i know don't see the logic in driving out of the way to visit a club when they can usually get equivalent, if not better service at a club near where they live. the added benefit is that you become a member of the elite stammkunde for the club and get the know the girls better.

its the equivalent of saying that i prefer to buy my t-shirts at the gap store 300 kilometers away as opposed to buying them at a gap store which is around the corner from my house. a t-shirt is a t-shirt is a t-shirt.

my friends from nrw, therefore, tend to stay in nrw. you might say that it is a part of my acculturation process that i'd adopted their ways.

Jackyo
04-05-08, 23:46
You will not find many part time cuties just looking to pay for some college.
... but they tend not to work at large clubs.

Talented amateurs, as I call them: mostly German, strictly amateurs (as opposed to hardened pros) are tucked away in the smaller, out-of-the-way clubs, not the industrial style Fickfabriken.

These women exist and their rationale is simple: I will have sex anyway. I have bills to pay. Why not have sex and get these bills paid at the same time? And by the way, I don't like to have to travel far from where I live so if I am from the Ruhr, why not just work at a club in the Ruhr which is accessible via public transport but preferably not in the town I live in.

Zimmer
04-05-08, 23:50
To Radler, Hessen Bub etc:
Maybe the answer is in your questions? The girls treat you different because you are regular customers. I don’t know, but it’s strange that your experiences are so much different from many of us who only visit once in a while.

I don’t expect to get descent service from 100 % of the girls I session with but I do expect standard pricing and at Palace there is no such thing as standard prices, at least not for us visiting only once in a while. Of course we who know better take the girl to the management, but no matter how many clients who do this the same girls keep working at Palace and continue to rip customers off. It’s clear that Palace don’t care at all.

A few months ago I had to face a new situation. A girl told me after BBBJ that if I wanted to have sex it would be 100 euro extra. I tried my best to explain that I’ve been to the club numerous times before and know the prices well etc but no matter what I said she refused to have sex if I didn’t agree to pay 100 extra. Of course I refused but because of the BBBJ I still had to pay her the 50.
Now, I already hear you saying “Come on, it’s only 50 Euro!”. Yes it’s only 50 Euro and I don’t care about the 50 Euros but I don’t like to be ripped of!

I think most experienced people here will agree that this would not have happened at most of Palace competitors.
Knowing about some of the things that happen to us “Palace-haters” do you really blame us for writing non-positive reports?

I know there are also some great girls at Palace and I would certainly visit again if it wasn’t for the fact that I’m much less likely to get ripped of at other clubs.
Yes, some girls try their tricks at other clubs too but I definitely feel a lot safer there.

Ekliges Lauern
04-06-08, 00:27
To Radler, Hessen Bub etc:
Maybe the answer is in your questions? The girls treat you different because you are regular customers. I don’t know, but it’s strange that your experiences are so much different from many of us who only visit once in a while.


Of course I get treated differently because I am a semi-regular. That is the nature of things. It's no different at any club. I also make a point of repeating with women I like. The other women notice this and understand if I am sessioning with them, they are being "auditioned" and if I like them I will likely repeat. Don't think the women don't talk to each other about you. If you repeat, you become a desirable customer.

In the case you mentioned, I would have left the room and spoken to the manageress regarding the situation. I would not have paid the 50E. Likely outcome is the manageress would have informed the girl that she was obligated to have sex for the 50E, but if I wanted to back out given the situation, give the girl 20E to save face (and the BJ is never free, no matter how bad).

Flodhast, I would turn the question around to you. Do you observe the women interacting with customers and returning with customers before you make a selection? Do you choose based solely on appearance and pass up some of the better women service-wise? Are you "anti-extra/upsell" to the point it annoys the women? How do you treat the women? Do you compliment them and try to build a rapport?

Here's my point about upselling. I read so many comments about guys being upset about it. However, when Czech Linda takes your cock out of her mouth during a blow job and sweetly says "For only 50E more, you can cum in my mouth. I want to taste you." That's not upselling, that's erotic. Or when her friend Lena tells you while you are fucking her doggie style that she wants you to fuck her ass as she really likes that. In both cases I have declined with a smile and no problem. Look at it from the woman's point of view, if she offers to let you cum in her mouth or fuck her in the ass (for extra money, of course) and you get all pissy about it, it will color how she treats you for the rest of the session. She's there to make money, but she'd still a woman with feelings too.

At Palace, I spend quite alot of time selecting the women I session with. Obviously I have to find her attractive, but that is not my number one concern. As I get older, I find a wider variety of women attractive. I focus on service and observe the women with customers and in the Kino before committing. If you read my reports, you will see I tend to focus on more ordinary looking women, but go for better service. That's my preference. However, the women I go with repeatedly know I am passing over more attractive women over for them and thus there is something I really dig about each of them. Every woman wants to feel desireable. They tend to respond to this and I get better service as a result.

Also, out of my usual three sessions an evening, two are usually repeats with old favorites. What is your selection process?

Vito Corleone
04-06-08, 00:37
Trust me, my friend. You would need more than those few written snippets to peak into my sick, twisted and bent mind.


Wassup Deda,

All Nick needs is a hot looking MILF with big fake bolt-ons to get into that sick, twisted mind of yours!

Vito Corleone
04-06-08, 00:48
Now that is one way to look at it!

My RF contacts do not visit this club, by the way. These are guys who live there and know better.

(I apologize for my late commentary on the posts on this thread but I'm still catching up on my reading after my hiatus.)

Jackyo,

Traveling as far as I do & the level of "CRAP" service here in the US, a little shark action does not bother me. There are some hot looking women who give good/great service @ Palace, people just have to find them. I prefer hot looking women with great model bods with ok service than some milf who rocks your world. That is just my preference.

Anyway, I would like to visit Bernds someday.

Vito Corleone
04-06-08, 01:23
To Radler, Hessen Bub etc:
Maybe the answer is in your questions? The girls treat you different because you are regular customers. I don’t know, but it’s strange that your experiences are so much different from many of us who only visit once in a while.


I re-visited Palace last October after a 1 year boycott in which I vowed to only return to burn the place down. In my last 3 trips to Germany, I was able to hook up with Hessen Bub & get the 411 on the women I was intested in (close to half of the lineup). I am not sure if I was treated different because the women saw us hanging & talking together or because they saw me spend over 12 total hours with Denise from Romania during my 4 visits in Feb.

I had a great time with some (Kim, Denise, Jenna, forgot the other names) women & some crappy ones. Salome from Brazil tried to rip me off & some hungarian chick wanted 100 E (30 minutes, no extras) because she had to work really hard. I just had to laugh after that one, but a Romanian chick @ Oase did the same thing during my trip.

Like Ortos said, you need to learn how to play poker @ different tables & ski on a wide variety of styles.

Vito Corleone
04-06-08, 01:26
P.S.: The difference between a photo of Julia and a photo of me: She does look much better ...

Wassup Mr. Bub,

I thought you looked pretty hot in person!

Vito Corleone
04-06-08, 01:35
Were it not for Kim and a few others, he told me that he would completely swear off the place.


I'll second that! Kim is the only reason I bothered to visit in Feb. I know she seems aloof at first, but she rocks my world & her model looks just drive me crazy! I also did a really tall, blonde hotlooking Polish chick too. Sorry, I forgot her name.

Ortos
04-06-08, 09:33
... when i happen to have a day to kill before i catch a flight at fra.

by preference, i make arrangements not to have to catch a flight at fra.

thank goodness for the high speed train which links dus hbf and the fra airport and which can get you there in time to catch a midmorning flight.

why would one want to waste a precious day which could be spent elsewhere in germany?

besides, i find frankfurt lacking in charm.

give me a day in wuppertal (where cocoon is) any time. at least it has a schwebebahn.

if we were ever to synchronize things properly, i would be interested in seeing this club from your perspective.

i'll bring the shark repellent. :)


my friends from nrw, therefore, tend to stay in nrw. you might say that it is a part of my acculturation process that i'd adopted their ways.

this is exactly the kind of anti-hessen bigotry and holier than thou biasness i was referring to earlier. it is not easy to share perspectives without an open mind not clouded by pre-conceptions...

Ortos
04-06-08, 09:37
... but they tend not to work at large clubs.

Talented amateurs, as I call them: mostly German, strictly amateurs (as opposed to hardened pros) are tucked away in the smaller, out-of-the-way clubs, not the industrial style Fickfabriken.

These women exist and their rationale is simple: I will have sex anyway. I have bills to pay. Why not have sex and get these bills paid at the same time? And by the way, I don't like to have to travel far from where I live so if I am from the Ruhr, why not just work at a club in the Ruhr which is accessible via public transport but preferably not in the town I live in.

"Talented amateurs" is an excellent appellation. In my own mind I refer to them as free-lancers, but we are referring to the same thing.

I often see them at "Fickfabriken" type clubs, like Palace. Palace is full of them sometimes during weekends and Messe-zeiten. They are also a large part of the GT lineup too...Also, I've seen them at Oase. The old Atlantis used to be a real hub for this kind of girl. So don't dismiss their presence at larger clubs. They are not exclusive to small clubs...

Ortos

Jackyo
04-06-08, 10:00
This is exactly the kind of anti-Hessen bigotry and holier than thou biasness I was referring to earlier. It is not easy to share perspectives without an open mind not clouded by pre-conceptions...
I've given up on Hessen, that is all.

As I've written, I would gladly do a tour of the Hessen clubs with those of you in the know.

Basketcase
04-06-08, 14:57
FKK PALACE

Day 5, Monday, 24 March 2008: FKK Palace

Introduction:

I got up to have my last breakfast at the Hotel Excelsior. I am leaving Frankfurt today but I have time to visit one more FKK as my flight back to the UK is not until 21:25 in the evening. I am told that Frankfurt Main airport and the train system is efficient and that I can allow just 2 hours getting from Frankfurt centre to the airport using public transport and check in on time.

I wanted to return to Oase for my last day but I had been there for the last 3 days and I had to fly out of Frankfurt so using public transport will be draining in terms of time and taking a taxi from Oase direct to the airport was expected to cost 45€ as quoted by a taxi driver because of the distance and that it was Easter Monday so penal rates were in force. I was torn but the logical side of me took heed and the decision was made to attend Palace.

FKK Palace:

One way travel from Frankfurt Hbf to Palace in Industriehof/Neue Borse was 2.20€ one way tram travel to get to club and the return journey by S5 train to Frankfurt airport terminal 1 would be 3.60€ train from Palace. I took my luggage with me.

I paid my entrance fee to FKK Palace 75€ and got into my uniform of just wearing a towel. The Palace reception took my luggage and stored it behind the front desk.

Arriving inside FKK Palace at 11:30am on Easter Monday, 24 March I found the place was quiet and did not start filling up really until 6pm. At 11:30am there was 5 girls and about slightly more in number of guys.

The interesting development that made the girls scarcer in the afternoon was the arrival of about a dozen Italian men dropping the boy to girl ratio to 3:1. This meant that there was less hassle factor as there were ample men to go around for the girls. In the London private party scene the ideal ratio of men to women I think is 3:1 as men cannot repeat again as quick as the women. So while one guy is in session the other two are recuperating getting ready for their next session in turn. It also meant that the girl would be sufficiently busy to avoid the need for her to hard sell herself as she had a steady source of customers.

The girls at Palace, in general I observed were processing guys at the rate one every 10-15 minutes. Once you come then out you go. Not good going guys. There was no way I could recuperate from a come in 45 minutes for it to become my turn again. When I was at Oase when I finished early the girl would let me use the remaining time to do something else together like kissing, mutual massages or DATY. So no post coital play afterwards was on offer in general unless the guys were the love them and leave them types.

This is Amsterdam Red Light District style turnover. I would spend a fair amount of time observing a girl on my rounds in the Amsterdam Red Light District estimating how long guys were in the kamers for. Invariably they were in and out in less than 15 minutes and in many cases much less and that includes taking their clothes off and putting them back on again. At least in a FKK you have no need to undress except for dropping your towel. The girl is already naked.

By fortuitous chance I met up with one of the ISG members that I saw last Sunday night at Oase. I was very happy to see him and listened to his advice on what to look out for in terms of a good session girl. I admitted that as I was new to this FKK system that I could only go on looks and what I liked. It did not seem like the Amsterdam Red light district environment where you interview the girls on what they did and created a contract, although now with more research it seems that some guys interview the FKK girls in the style of Amsterdam Red Light District style as to what was available or not for that matter.

The German guys I met at Palace were all good guys. One guy I watched getting blown in the kino and when he finished in the girl’s mouth he and I exchanged thumbs up signs. Later on in the showers we chatted and back in the kino we struck up more conversation about the girls and the FKK scene. It is just a friendly atmosphere as we are all here for the same thing and there are girls to go around. No need for any conflict.

There was an interesting incident where the dozen Italian guys were camped out in the smoking room while I was having lunch sitting at one of the high table looking into the smoking room. There were two blondes in the smoking room entertaining the Italian guys then I think the situation was devised that the two blondes should suck a guy each and see who could get one off first. What followed was a very vigorous BBBJ with CIM competition. The guys were talking and joking as the girls went to work on two guys lying on the sofas in the smoking room. The Russian blonde won with a mouthful of come as her reward and 100€. Funnily enough the Italian guys paid the girls from the wallet that they were holding in their robes and they did not bother to go shower afterwards. I thought watching this would spoil my lunch but I managed to gulp it down just like the girls gulped down the men’s vital essences.

The Women:

I had three sessions between two girls: blonde Sunny from Lithuania (one session) and blonde Angelina or Gina from Czech Republic (two sessions). This was my last hooray:

* Sunny from Lithuania: –

Sunny from Lithuania looks like British blonde It Girl Tamara Beckwith. She is tall, very perky C Cup breasts with nipples that pointed to the sky and wore a short pink fluorescent skirt and heels. Sunny is slim, leggy and had a distinctive tattoo on her right hand side that covered the side and reached out to her pierced right breast. It was a bit different sucking and licking a nipple with a piercing in it feeling the metal bit circling in your mouth.

I met Sunny in the kino and she came at the time when I would like to session. Sunny joined me on the mattress and proceeded to perform a BBBJ on me in the kino. We then moved to a room at the far side where the massage room was. Sunny performed more BBBJ on me and then moved to sex. I was not at my best after 4 days of this already so it too a big effort to unload over her backside. I really wanted to coat her cute tight arse with my come. I was impressed with the load that finally came out. I thought it would be a squirt but it was way more than that. My balls must be working overtime to replenish my reserves.

* Angelina or Gina from Czech Republic:-

Angelina or Gina from Czech Republic is a petite, big naturally breasted platinum blonde with blue eyes. She is cute with a small face. Her breasts must be E cup at least and they had a nice soft yielding and warm feel to them.

For my first session with Angelina:

I caught sight of Angelina while I was in the kino and she came over to offer me relief. She performed a BBBJ in the kino on me. Prior to proceedings she broke the ambiance by extracting a wet wipe from her hand bag and wiped my dick-head with the wet wipe before going down on me. I realized that this was her standard practice as I saw her do this to other guys in the kino.

After a bit of BBBJ we went to one of the rooms adjacent to the kino. Angelina offered me anal and said that she loves anal because of the feeling of a hard cock sliding into a tight place. You have got to love a girl that thinks like that. Maybe another time I could have Angelina’s arse but I did not feel like it today. Nonetheless we reverted back to where we left off of BBBJ. Angelina then applied a condom to enter the cowgirl position. It was not working so we took the condom off for more BBBJ. I then thought what was working was her pretty mouth so we changed positions so that I could hump her mouth while she laid down facing up. It was heavenly watching my dick mouth fuck her. Angelina has such a cute face and it looked so good having my dick in her mouth. Watching Angelina provided great visuals. I finished with CIM. A good punt was had with Angelina.

For my second session with Angelina:

My second session with Angelina had us start in the kino. It seems kino starts is a common theme for me now. I licked her big tits. The BBBJ was preceded by a wet wipe of my dick before Angelina sucked it.

When we moved to the room I sucked Angelina’s breasts again and moved down to her pussy. I gave her a few licks and then Angelina announced that pussy licking was for her boyfriend only. Oh well, not to worry back to me I suppose. Angelina knelt over me as I laid down for her to suck me. We then changed positions for different angles of prolonged oral sex. My little friend was having trouble lasting the session. I finished off with a nice long mouth fuck again.

Girls sighted at FKK Palace:

Ena from Lithuania:

Ena from Lithuania is a natural big breasted girl and big legs (please note not fat) with platinum blonde hair.

Alina from Russia:

Alina from Russia is a tall blonde girl with D cup breasts. She wore white lingerie set with bra and matching suspender belt but not panties. Nice. Alina had an angular face with distinct features. It was pointed out that it was she who two nights before was asking for 100€ for a half hour session. Given the business she was receiving today it may be that she had reduced her prices to the standard or she found a few takers at 100€ a pop.
Jennifer from Germany:

Jennifer from Germany is a tall redhead with medium build and b cup breasts.

Conclusion:

I spent 8 hours at Palace from 11:30am to 7:45pm taking lunch and dinner there. Palace was a nice finish to my 5 day FKK tour of Hessen. I am eager to return to Frankfurt for the pleasures that can be found here.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

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Ekliges Lauern
04-06-08, 15:43
"Talented amateurs" is an excellent appellation. In my own mind I refer to them as free-lancers, but we are referring to the same thing.

I often see them at "Fickfabriken" type clubs, like Palace. Palace is full of them sometimes during weekends and Messe-zeiten. They are also a large part of the GT lineup too...Also, I've seen them at Oase. The old Atlantis used to be a real hub for this kind of girl. So don't dismiss their presence at larger clubs. They are not exclusive to small clubs...

Ortos

Ahh, the memories. I remember at Atlantis many years ago as I was just learning about the FKKs. I got past going with every woman who was my type, optically and I started sampling women of different body types just for the variety. I ended up going with a blonde German lass, with very large tits and a little on the large side in general. I remember chatting with her for a while after a very while after the session. She told me she was a Uni stident in one of the states up north, but she came down one or two weekends a month to mark some cash.

I think alot of foreign girls that have been in Germany for quite a while to the point they are practically German in outlook started out as "talented amateurs" before becoming fixtures at the clubs. I'd put Koko in that category when she started out.

Ekliges Lauern
04-06-08, 16:10
The rave reviews you get of this club..

... are mostly written by folks who don't have anything to compare it to.

Heck, there are guys out there who visit Laufhaeuser who have never indulged in the hobby before who come back with rave reviews too..

This is what alot of us really don't understand about the Palace bashers. We understand you don't like the club and haven't been there in years. What we don't understand is the almost compulsive need to come into the forum and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the club and the guys that like it.

There are clubs I don't like that much that others rave about. I don't go in those clubs' forum and complain about them. It's fair enough to post criticism after a visit if things are not to your liking but frankly if you haven't visited a club in two years, you really don't have much to add to the discussion.



...I find Frankfurt lacking in charm.

...Give me a day in Wuppertal (where Cocoon is) any time. At least it has a Schwebebahn.


True enough. Outside of a club, I would rather be in Wuppertal vs. Frankfurt. However from my mediocre visit to Cocoon ca. four years ago, I'll tolerate Frankfurt for the Palace/Oase over Cocoon any day.



...I didn't answer your question: the last time I visited a club in Hessen was probably in 06. I have suceeded in keeping up this streak since then and I have every intention of not breaking the streak.

My friends from NRW, therefore, tend to stay in NRW. You might say that it is a part of my acculturation process that I'd adopted their ways.

If I lived in NRW, I would probably only come down to Hesse for Palace/Oase only once in a blue moon. I could largely content myself between GT and Freude as well as the wealth of clubs to explore that I haven't visited. I wouldn't come in the Palace forum and repeated complain about it, though.

For many of us, FRA is far more convenient. I transit regularly through FRA and have business in FRA.

Jackyo
04-06-08, 19:06
There are clubs I don't like that much that others rave about. I don't go in those clubs' forum and complain about them. It's fair enough to post criticism after a visit if things are not to your liking but frankly if you haven't visited a club in two years, you really don't have much to add to the discussion.
This point is well taken.

I don't normally visit the threads of the Hessen three. I'm catching up on my reading over this weekend, that is all and some comments drove me to react.

The bottom line is: to each his own.

I am hoping that one of these days the NRW tourist board will mail me a check.

Chicafan
04-07-08, 10:06
This is what alot of us really don't understand about the Palace bashers. We understand you don't like the club and haven't been there in years. What we don't understand is the almost compulsive need to come into the forum and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the club and the guys that like it.

There are clubs I don't like that much that others rave about. I don't go in those clubs' forum and complain about them. It's fair enough to post criticism after a visit if things are not to your liking but frankly if you haven't visited a club in two years, you really don't have much to add to the discussion.


I would not trade some of the nights I've had in Palace for nights I've had in Brazil and NWR. Sometimes you have to manage things. If you can't, go where it's easy and you feel good. A lot of guys that get ripped off are probably tools anyway and it happens in all clubs, even GT. For me though, until Palace is consistently mediocre I will continue to go when I am in Frankfurt. Who the hell cares about charm when you sleep til 2pm, eat, then start making your way towards a club you will be in until 2am? My last trip to Palace was not great but mostly because the girls I have always liked were not working and the lineup beyond that was so so.

Dedalus
04-07-08, 14:52
That's just not true. There are (and always have been) girls at Oase and World providing bad service. Some of them try to upsell, some don't. Rumours about Romanian girls offering bare back sessions for 30 EUR have been around for years.

HB

Hey HB,

But I'm not talking about simply "bad" service. I understand and accept that this is subjective. What I am talking about is highway robbery and flagrant disregard for the standard club prices.

While I can (somewhat) understand and forgive a gal at GT trying to score 50 EUR for each 30 minute session, a girl who tries to sell a decent 30 GFE for 150 needs to be shown the door. That goes beyond up-selling. And yes, if a girl pulled that on me at World or Oase, I could take them to Doro or whoever is working the desk at World and they would either be given a warning or shown the door. Let me qualify that: Provided the girl in question was NOT a girlfriend of one of the security personnel.

My problem with Palace is that they seem to either ignore or encourage this type of business practice.

BTW @ Radler and others who seem to think that I am just Palace bashing:

You are right, but I have been going to Palace before they started calling it Palace and it use to be my favorite places in Hessen to play. On the rare occasions that I do enter its doors, I still get good treatment from the personnel. I do indeed feel that I not only have the right to criticize this club, but that my opinion is pretty fair.

I could see the attitude change happening in the summer of 06, back when I was a semi-regular. About 80 percent of the new girls that I would go with were not delivering what at the time was Palace-Standard-service. Also, more and more girls were trying to bamboozle me on the time spent in the room. This was occurring way more so that at other clubs.

I don't think that one can easily get away with comments such as "One finds sharks at all clubs." and "Every club has girls that deliver bad service." Again, I'm not talking about sharks and bad service. I'm am talking about a collusive endeavor to cheat the customer.

By the way HB; you mentioned a number of girls who you say still come back to Palace to work. A few of those names I know pretty well and one of them, who has her main digs at another club right now, told me that the only reason she goes to Palace now and then is because there are many tourist at Palace who either tip or over-pay for sessions and on messe-nights she can earn a ton with out much work. She stopped short of telling me that she tried to bilk them.

This is a good provider, but that is the Palace mentality.

Also, we've spoken in the past about a number of Palace girls. You tell me; Could I get a good 30 minutes session out of Lorena, Andra, Olympia or any of that crew?

Having said all of that, enjoy Palace if you wish to and can. Hell, on a night that Kim or Eva are there, then I might just enjoy the place with you. I do however believe that something "ain't clean in the milk" when it comes to the general attitude of the management and girls at Palace, which is why I usually continue onto Bad Homburg or Pohlheim when visiting Hessen.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Dedalus
04-07-08, 15:37
Hey Man,




I've long read with particular interest your own comments about Palace and I dare say that you, Dedalus, along with a few others are actually biased against Palace and you carry some hostility towards the place which you may not be aware of (or perhaps you are?), but it comes out clearly in your writing. It is clear you hate the place, or hate the people who run it or something on that order. Is this a fair comment?


Nah. Having lived for so long in D'land, I have probably been influenced by the attitude that it is easier to criticize something than to praise it.

Still, "hate" is a strong word. I do not personally know the people who own or run Palace other than a nod and "Hallo" when visiting the place. I do think that they commit a gross error by not holding their gals to higher standards. But, hate? I save my hate for truly important things in life.

Biased? Possibly. But you have to remember that Palace WAS my place for a long time. Use to spend many hours and many Euros there. It would be in my interest if the place operated on the up and up. I do prefer World and Oase and the NRW clubs to Palace, and for what I think are fair and legitimate reasons. Not sure that any of them have to do with bias.




I really am not trying to be arrogant or tell you what you think/feel; it just seems to come out that way and you seem to overlook the fact that what goes on at Palace could and does go on in almost every club out there, even your precious GT.


Never took it that way, my friend. However, I don't think that you can honestly compare what goes on at Palace with what goes on at GT. Also the few at GT and LR who will try to cheat on the time and price in the room are easy to spot. Furthermore, if it does happen at GT or LR, and the customer has a legit beef, the management will stand behind the customer. Happened to me recently at LR and I had the full support of the lady at the desk. The people at Palace just shrug their shoulders and say "That's between you and the girl."



Often we hear/read such indignant commentary about Palace and esp. the utter audacity of the managment to charge 10E more than other clubs for Eintritt, but then it is no problem to go to, say, Artemis where the prices rival or even exceed Palace. Or the fact that you might pay more to get into Palace, but you end up saving three times that in lesser travel fees and the advantage to leave/re-enter club and do things in an urban centre before going back to session more in a fully re-charged state.


We've been through this one a number of times, and I have already taken issue with the notion of the 10 Euros entrance fee and the cost of getting to the other Hessen clubs. Having been to Artemis and FKK Haus, I really do not have a huge problem with the 10 extra euros. I just wish that the ten extra Euros purchased at bit better product.



And I am not trying to promote Palace more than any other club: I like them all. But I am just trying to point out that there are several experienced mongers (Ortos, Hessen Bub, Radler, etc.) out there who disagree with the kind of blanket propaganda being spread about this club in particular.


Well, I would take issue the notion that my critiques or the reports of my fellow brethren who visited the place are "blanket propaganda". I have told you the problems that I have with Palace. Those problems are pretty specific. Most negative reports that I read here and in other forums are also pretty specific and hardly qualify as "blanket propaganda."




Lastly, and I've said this before: It is not the club that is more GFE or more of a rip-off or more prone to produce "crap sessions." It is the girls you or I select and how we interact with them and the signals we give off etc. that produce the results. I don't look for the management of a club to clean up after me if I make the mistakes in picking the wrong girl or if I don't clarify what I want and how much it costs, etc. pre-session. If I double fault on the tennis court it is MY own fault. There are also a hell of alot of sharks at Palace too. You can see them a mile away.


I would partly agree with you that choice is everything and it is often a "caveat epmtor" situation. I know that it may sound "grassy-knolly" of me, but I am sure that there is a collusive effort on the part of many girls at world to play with the internal price structure at the place.

And, yes I have a problem with this and so should the management. In that sense, I do look to the management to clean house.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Hessen Bub
04-07-08, 18:12
Could I get a good 30 minutes session out of Lorena, Andra, Olympia or any of that crew?

Don't know if you could, but Lorena is one of my alltime club highlights! And I had fantastic sessions with Andra. Olympia is a *****, but she likes me and I had good sessions with her. Makes me think somehow .... ;-)

I don't fell a "rip-off-atmosphere" at Palace. If you or others do so - it's your right to.

HB

Ekliges Lauern
04-07-08, 21:27
BTW @ Radler and others who seem to think that I am just Palace bashing:

You are right, but I have been going to Palace before they started calling it Palace and it use to be my favorite places in Hessen to play. On the rare occasions that I do enter its doors, I still get good treatment from the personnel. I do indeed feel that I not only have the right to criticize this club, but that my opinion is pretty fair.


Actually, the comment was prompted by Jackyo who stated he hadn’t been there in two years and also stated that the guys who like Palace did so because they didn’t know any better (or were the Laufhaus crowd).

If you occasionally pass through the doors still, then you have earned the right to continue to comment. Although, I think you should post the good, the bad and the ugly (full visit reports).

There is a continuum from bad service to rip-off. In its mildest form, it’s the woman that tries to rush you by fucking you too fast or repeatedly saying “Komm!”. I’ve run into this recently at GT and have run into it at Palace and Oase. There is one girl at Palace that does this that I still repeat with as it has no effect on me (sometimes I’m tempted to laugh) and I really enjoy the visuals of fucking her. On a recent occasion at Palace, I was with a new girl getting a Kino BJ and was getting really turned on. I switched to fucking with her on top in order to try to stretch things out. Within 30 seconds of entering her, I came. She was horrified and thought that she did something wrong and was worried that I would be upset with her. I ended up going another session with her as she clearly knew how to push my buttons. Bottom line, I’ve encountered the rush jobs at Palace, Oase and GT and tend to weed these women out by observing in the Kino and them returning with customers (time and reading the guy will tell you a lot).

The other one I don’t know quite how to classify was Chinese Tan at Palace. When starting the session, she wanted me to commit to an hour (I didn’t of course). What ensued was mostly a hand job, with a few seconds of BJ and some really half hearted fucking. It was designed to be just good enough for me not to lose my erection, but not allow me to cum. For example, if I started fucking her vigorously, she would clamp her legs closed so I could not comfortably penetrate her deeply. At the half hour mark, I still had hope of cumming so I broke down and extended. After another half an hour of this non-sense, I called an end to the session. While technically not a rip-off, it was bad service on an epic scale.

Moving from bad service to ripoff on the continuum, I would count the women that get tired during a BJ and don’t want to continue or just want to do a hand job. I’ve also experienced various varieties of fake FT. The Romanian contingents at all clubs seem to have BJ stamina issues so I tend to avoid them. I’ve also had issues at GT with the Kino trolls (women hanging out outside the Kino looking for new friends) not wanting to do proper BJs. As far as fake FT, I’ve had women try to fake it using their hand to obscure the view. This happened to me most recently at Oase. The other thing that happened was one of my regular Kino BJ women at Palace would take the first spurt and then back off of my cock. I didn’t feel like pleading my case to the manageress and so I crossed her off of my repeat list.

Under rip-offs, I include the “time bandits”, women who claim we had gone over the half hour when we haven’t and women who complain that we are approaching the half hour mark after fifteen minutes. In the last year I’ve had three time bandit situations, two at Oase and one at GT. In all cases, they backed down when I confronted them on it. I should also note that I always wear a watch and look at it when the session started. I also include “false extras” under rip-offs. At Palace about a year ago a woman claimed I owed her an extra 50 because I fucked her in the Kino. I refused and she backed down.

What’s the point of all of this? There is bad service and rip-offs at all clubs. I probably do better than most at Palace because I observe more at this club and tend to be very careful with my selections. I’m also older and a semi-regular and I do think both factors color the service I get.

My reports tend to focus on the positive, so I could see some thinking I am a shill. In reality, I mention the bad with the good. Also, I tend to get past the bad pretty quickly. I just tend to focus more on the good as I am upbeat in temperament. I also write pretty glowing reviews of Oase, GT and Freude as well.

Dedalus, happy to hear your experiences (bad as well as good) when you do visit. We understand your point of view regarding Palace, I just don’t know how much it helps people repeating your overall dissatisfaction with Palace.

Cheers,
Radler

Beffen1
04-07-08, 22:01
There is a continuum from bad service to rip-off. In its mildest form, it’s the woman that tries to rush you by fucking you too fast or repeatedly saying “Komm!”. I’ve run into this recently at GT and have run into it at Palace and Oase. There is one girl at Palace that does this that I still repeat with as it has no effect on me (sometimes I’m tempted to laugh) and I really enjoy the visuals of fucking her.

The other thing that happened was one of my regular Kino BJ women at Palace would take the first spurt and then back off of my cock. I didn’t feel like pleading my case to the manageress and so I crossed her off of my repeat list.



Cheers,
Radler


When a girl starts with the "cum, baby" - I tell them- ask any man, nothing is surer to delay orgasmus than saying "come", or worse "please come".

As for the girl who backed off after the first spurt, I'd say to her at the cash locker: OK, let's see, five spurts of cum and you took one, here's ten euro for the FT. Okay baby??


beffen- who believes what's fair is fair

Ekliges Lauern
04-07-08, 22:46
When a girl starts with the "cum, baby" - I tell them- ask any man, nothing is surer to delay orgasmus than saying "come", or worse "please come".

As for the girl who backed off after the first spurt, I'd say to her at the cash locker: OK, let's see, five spurts of cum and you took one, here's ten euro for the FT. Okay baby??


beffen- who believes what's fair is fair

Regarding the former, I'm usually speaking German with the ladies and getting the grammar right on a sentence with a subordinate clause is a little beyond me while fucking, so I let it go. Also, it really has no effect on me other than making me want to lagh.

Regarding the latter, that is not a case I would be willing to make with the manageress. The lady in question was a regular and now is no more. Punishment enough.

Dedalus
04-07-08, 23:55
Regarding the former, I'm usually speaking German with the ladies and getting the grammar right on a sentence with a subordinate clause is a little beyond me while fucking, so I let it go. Also, it really has no effect on me other than making me want to lagh.


I hear you talking. Never could get my feeble mind around bedroom Deutsch. "du hast die schönste Muschi der Welt" or du hast tolle Titten Kleine." will never roll off my tongue. "Who's you Daddy?" to "Wer wird Papa?" would probably just kill any built up mood.

Therefore, in the clubs I just stick to "stumm-sex."

Cheers,

Dedalus

Nick The G
04-08-08, 01:07
Therefore, in the clubs I just stick to "stumm-sex."
Poor guy! You don't allow yourself to produce any noise, to express yourself acoustically? Why not try an "Urschrei" the next time! :-) :-)

Dedalus
04-08-08, 03:52
Why not try an "Urschrei" the next time! :-) :-)

Hey Nick,

You have to help me here. My Duden is nowhere close by at the moment. Is this what we refer to as a "Primal Scream"?

If so, then you should have been at Atlantis that night that I first did a session with Marina.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Akibono
04-08-08, 05:13
When a girl starts with the "cum, baby" - I tell them- ask any man, nothing is surer to delay orgasmus than saying "come", or worse "please come".

As for the girl who backed off after the first spurt, I'd say to her at the cash locker: OK, let's see, five spurts of cum and you took one, here's ten euro for the FT. Okay baby??


beffen- who believes what's fair is fair

I prefer this from a Billy Idol song:

Last night a little dancer came dancin' to my door
Last night a little angel Came pumpin on my floor
She said "Come, baby I got a licence for love
And if it expires pray help from above"
Because

In the midnight hour she cried- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell she cried- "more, more, more"
In the midniight hour babe- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell- "more, more, more"
More, more, more.

She don't like slavery, she won't sit and beg
But when I'm tired and lonely she sees me to bed
What set you free and brought you to be me babe
What set you free I need you hear by me
Because

In the midnight hour she cried- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell she cried- "more, more, more"
In the midniight hour babe- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell- "more, more, more"

Nick The G
04-08-08, 10:08
Hey Nick, You have to help me here. ....... Is this what we refer to as a "Primal Scream"?
If so, then you should have been at Atlantis that night that I first did a session with Marina.That's exactly what it is and how it feels!
Did Marina then charge you some extra money for this "Primal Scream Therapy?" :-)



In the midnight hour she cried- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell she cried- "more, more, more"Akibono, indeed, this is a very good and powerful song, that I like very much!

Ekliges Lauern
04-08-08, 19:37
I hear you talking. Never could get my feeble mind around bedroom Deutsch. "du hast die schönste Muschi der Welt" or du hast tolle Titten Kleine." will never roll off my tongue. "Who's you Daddy?" to "Wer wird Papa?" would probably just kill any built up mood.

Therefore, in the clubs I just stick to "stumm-sex."

Cheers,

Dedalus

I have to recount a story from GT a few months back. I was heading from the Kino to the lockers following Reggi after a very satisfying BJ. Reggi has an extremely tiny butt, rather unique in that regard. I complemented her on her "huebschen Po". She smiled and looked over her shoulder as said to me: "Klein ist fine". Who says Deutsch isn't erotic.

Vito Corleone
04-09-08, 08:37
Also, we've spoken in the past about a number of Palace girls. You tell me; Could I get a good 30 minutes session out of Lorena, Andra, Olympia or any of that crew?


Cheers,

Dedalus

Wassup Deda,

I had a great 18 minute session with Andra, then she demanded an extra 50 Euro if I wanted to continue. I know some of you are her regulars, but she was a total ROB & I am not a newbie. She is a hot looking **** & 18 minutes with a hottie was worth it just to experience it. She seemed to pull the same crap everytime I saw her there.

HB,

You are a regular & VIP @ Palace whether you want to admit it or not. I see how the women treat you different than they do with other guys. Yes. You might have great chemistry or whatever with these girls, but a friend who has been FKKing for 6 years said Olympia was "crap." I am not quite sure, but I think you are the only one who has anything good to say about. Most of us agree she is really hot. I am not knocking you for your VIP status, but you seem to defend Palace with the same energy as those free Tibet supporters (just a joke). I know there are sharks @ all clubs, but I think you status @ Palace shields you from the shark/rob/hurry up & cum atmosphere that most of the critics feel. Am I wrong?

Ortos
04-09-08, 09:39
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HB,

You are a regular & VIP @ Palace whether you want to admit it or not. I see how the women treat you different than they do with other guys. Yes. You might have great chemistry or whatever with these girls, but a friend who has been FKKing for 6 years said Olympia was "crap." I am not quite sure, but I think you are the only one who has anything good to say about. Most of us agree she is really hot. I am not knocking you for your VIP status, but you seem to defend Palace with the same energy as those free Tibet supporters (just a joke). I know there are sharks @ all clubs, but I think you status @ Palace shields you from the shark/rob/hurry up & cum atmosphere that most of the critics feel. Am I wrong?

I enjoy no VIP or special status at Palace, but I also defend the place as a very top-notch mongering venue. I am able to avoid getting ripped off or shark-bitten (most of the time) by employing basic FKK sampling strategies, carefull observation, a bit of luck and acurate personal radar. So I don't think it is just HB, whether or not he is a VIP Stammgast, etc.

Ortos

Dreams
04-09-08, 11:50
I enjoy no VIP or special status at Palace, but I also defend the place as a very top-notch mongering venue. I am able to avoid getting ripped off or shark-bitten (most of the time) by employing basic FKK sampling strategies, carefull observation, a bit of luck and acurate personal radar. So I don't think it is just HB, whether or not he is a VIP Stammgast, etc.

Ortos
Totally agree.
Count me as another Palace supporter, without any VIP status. I actually only visit once or twice a year, and using the strategy explained by Ortos above, I always have a good time. I do not live in Hessen, and have rarely time to drive to Oase or World. Palace offered me last month a 6 hour break between 2 planes, and 3 wonderful sessions. Unbeatable.

Hessen Bub
04-09-08, 11:58
What's a VIP? I consider myself a regular visitor, no less, no more. And I do know some guys who had good sessions with Olympia, they do not write (anymore) on Enlish or German boards. Two friends had a great foursome with Olympia and Mona. I do not defend her, I know she does give crappy service as a standard. ;-) Not with me, but with others. First session I had with her was "so la la", second session she did not want to kiss anymore (she then did), third session she did not want DATY anymore, but then changed her mind. It's a game with her, she can be (b)itchy. That's the special thing about her.

So - if you don't like Palace - visit other clubs. More girls left for me ... ;-)

HB

Rogers
04-11-08, 13:52
Last night

Stephanie - German, dirty blond, medium height and tits, a little chubby, tatoo on lower back and left shoulder I think. Surprisingly good session. DFK, fingers in pussy and ass, pretty passionate!!

Rogers
04-11-08, 23:27
Sessioned with the much talked about Andra.

Andra - blond romanian, nice tits, pretty face. Has a little bit voluptousness to her due to having a kid. She's a processor. Her BJ to completion was actually good though. Avoid.

Anyone know who the blond with the tatoo on her side that goes up to her tits is? Tan, lean body. Looks either Polish or German. Good provider?

Akibono
04-12-08, 04:20
Sessioned with the much talked about Andra.

Andra - blond romanian, nice tits, pretty face. Has a little bit voluptousness to her due to having a kid. She's a processor. Her BJ to completion was actually good though. Avoid.

Anyone know who the blond with the tatoo on her side that goes up to her tits is? Tan, lean body. Looks either Polish or German. Good provider?


Sounds like Niki. She is German and a pretty good provider.

Rogers
04-12-08, 22:55
Just got back from Palace.

Sunny - this is the girl with the tatoo on her side reaching up to her right tit. German blond, nice tan, medium tits, medium to above avg height. Lean, long body. I've been having some good luck with German girls on this trip for some reason. Good session, not rushed. Would repeat.

Hessen Bub
04-13-08, 15:28
Sunny - this is the girl with the tatoo on her side reaching up to her right tit. German blond, nice tan, medium tits, medium to above avg height. Lean, long body. I've been having some good luck with German girls on this trip for some reason. Good session, not rushed. Would repeat.

Average session, I'd say. She lives in Mallorca, ist very slim and very blond.

HB

Borat69
04-13-08, 17:31
how's it looking these days? i will be in town from wed. anyone else around? maybe grab a drink sat or sun?

West By Sun
04-13-08, 20:36
Angelina announced that pussy licking was for her boyfriend only. Oh well, not to worry back to me I suppose. Angelina knelt over me as I laid down for her to suck me. We then changed positions for different angles of prolonged oral sex. My little friend was having trouble lasting the session. I finished off with a nice long mouth fuck again.Tanned Angelina allow me to kiss her pussy, but she stopped kissing me.

She told me kissing her lips is only for boyfriend.

Does she have different strategy depending on client?

Basketcase
04-14-08, 23:02
Average session, I'd say. She lives in Mallorca, ist very slim and very blond.

HBI saw Sunny on Sunday. I thought she was from Lithuania. yes, I agree with all the descriptions of tatoo, pierced pussy and right breast nipple, slim, small boobed, tight arse and long long really blond hair.

I di not know she lived in Mallorca. Nice place to live, but a bit of a commute to Hessen.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Basketcase
04-14-08, 23:06
Tanned Angelina allow me to kiss her pussy, but she stopped kissing me.

She told me kissing her lips is only for boyfriend.

Does she have different strategy depending on client?West By Sun,

I do not know if she has different strategies for different clients. She did not kiss with me that much but did kiss every so often. She had other charms with her mouth that I wanted her to utilise instead. The dirty little minx.

I think I need to go back and find out. She promised me one of my fave dirty things which I have yet to have the stamina to go through with. It'll cost but she is soooo cute that I am fine with it. She says she is waiting.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Rogers
04-15-08, 07:55
FYI

When I was at Palace I was an asshole and left my navigation unit on my windsheild. Some N stole it.

My rent a car was a Mercedes and I parked on the street where all the cabs hang out. I must have left the door unlocked since I believe Meredes are hard to break into.

Anyway, watch out.

Vito Corleone
04-15-08, 10:54
I enjoy no VIP or special status at Palace, but I also defend the place as a very top-notch mongering venue. I am able to avoid getting ripped off or shark-bitten (most of the time) by employing basic FKK sampling strategies, carefull observation, a bit of luck and acurate personal radar. So I don't think it is just HB, whether or not he is a VIP Stammgast, etc.

Ortos
Ortos & Dreams,

I am also a fan of Palace & I am no VIP either. I am not a FKK rookie & I try to avoid the sharks, but I do get bitten once in a while. On my last trip in Feb, I went to Palace 5 times & Oase once & World zero, so I must have enjoyed my experience.

I was commenting on HB's somewhat denial that the "shark" atmosphere @ Palace does not exist. I do not remember mentioning that I am a Palace hater (well, not recently) in my recent posts. That fact that you mentioned "avoid getting ripped off or shark bitten" means you admit that it exists in Palace. HB just seems to be in denial of the shark mojo @ Palace the haters post.

Vito Corleone
04-15-08, 11:07
What's a VIP? I consider myself a regular visitor, no less, no more. And I do know some guys who had good sessions with Olympia, they do not write (anymore) on Enlish or German boards. Two friends had a great foursome with Olympia and Mona. I do not defend her, I know she does give crappy service as a standard. ;-) Not with me, but with others. First session I had with her was "so la la", second session she did not want to kiss anymore (she then did), third session she did not want DATY anymore, but then changed her mind. It's a game with her, she can be (b)itchy. That's the special thing about her.

So - if you don't like Palace - visit other clubs. More girls left for me ... ;-)

HB
HB,

I was not trying to knock you for having good sessions with the women, I was commenting on your replies to the people who do not like Palace.

I am a fan of Palace & I appreciate your info on the women when we hook up. I also agree that there are some hot looking women who give great service & etc. I do agree with some of the haters that the atmosphere @ Palace & some attitudes of the women are a little shaddy. I think management in general does not care if a girl rips off a customer (personal experience). If I have issues with a girl @ the other clubs (W, O, LR, GT) management will atleast listen & try to works things out (personal experience).

Whenever someone knocks Palace for their so called "atmosphere" issues, you always reply with a "I do not feel this when I am there" type of answer. I was only wondering if you feel different from the other menbers because you are a "regular."

Basketcase
04-16-08, 00:29
***FKK Palace Trip Report***

This was my recent instalment of my recent Frankfurt visit.

**Jenna of Czech Republic**

Really Blonde blue eyed Jenna of Czech Republic had B cup natural breasts that were high and were full shaped. She was one of the few girls that walked around fully nude except for her heels shunning a loin or waist bandeau wrap. Jenna had curves in all the right places, medium build and medium height 1.65m for a girl. I could describe Jenna as the type that I would like my wife to look like.

We had a kino start where she went straight to BBBJ on me with no initial kissing. She sucked me for a while and I thought it looked visually stunning see this blonde with my penis in her mouth.

We went onto the room at Jenna’s suggestion where she performed more BBBJ on me and gave me a nice long thorough suck and included BLS. I do enjoy BLS. After ages of BBBJ it was time to complete so I entered from behind. She felt really good as I pumped away. I quickly finished off with COB. She looked so good with my come on her.

**Angelina of Czech Republic (1st session)**

I caught sight of big naturally boobed blonde Angelina from the Czech Republic. I saw her last time I was at Palace and enjoyed her talents immensely. This session was a continuation of the good times that such a petite and cute girl like Angelina can provide. Her boobs are so huge and are natural. I spent time in the smoking room with her fondling her boobs while she was taking a break smoking and trying to guess how much each boob weighed. Her breasts are such a huge and heavy burden on Angelina’s small frame. She is truly blessed. She also does not have tattoos which I am not a fan of on girls.

Angelina wore a little black bandeau waist skirt. Long blonde hair framed a small face with blue eyes. She did not kiss except on the cheeks. She did relent this time to allow pussy licking.

In the room Angelina performed her glorious feels like no teeth BBBJ on me. It felt so good but I had to go for my usual doing it from behind with COB ending. Angelina said I could do that COB but she insisted that I come in her mouth. Angelina then went into it with gusto. I pumped away with my hands on her tight arse cheeks then as I felt my come spewing out I dropped to my side and pulled the condom off and Angelina got up quickly and placed her mouth over my cock and gave me a prolonged suck that ended in my come filling her mouth. I think that this was a brilliant session.

**Lara of Greece**

I had interviewed Lara of Greece prior to going into the room. Usually I do not do this interviewing and just go with my instincts. I asked if she kissed, I asked if she did COB, I asked could I do X and Y position. When I got to the room, there was no initial kissing. Then I received my first ever covered Blow job (CBJ) in a FKK from Lara of Greece. She had placed her body over me as I lay down so I could not see what she was doing to my penis but I felt a cover go on and as she sucked my penis. The rest of the session went downhill from there. She did continue to suck me and said that she had a cut in her mouth and would normally perform BBBJ, but for that. I then opted to finish with COB in position X like I showed her prior to entering the room. She said that COB was not allowed and then said her English was bad and did not know what this word “cock” was when I explained the position and asked me to spell cock to her. I was highly sceptical of this reply of not knowing what cock was. She said only knew a man’s schwanz as “penis” in English. She said it was fine for me to masturbate myself to completion if I wanted in a condom. Only redeeming feature was that at the end of the session she let me quickly fondle her tight arse and give her a tongue lashing of her pussy.

**Sunny of Lithuania**

I had to do Tamara Beckworth look alike Sunny of Lithuania and went for kissing, DATY, BBBJ and then doggy for a COB finish. I do like her tall, slim with an A cup breasted figure, tight and smooth skin to stroke.

**Angelina of Czech Republic (2nd session)**

I had to leave in 15 minutes so I quickly located Angelina (although I would prefer Jenna of Czech) and asked her to make the end of my day at Palace. She was happy to oblige provided I came in her mouth and not anywhere else. I duly did CIM and she kissed me afterwards with the proceeds of my penis. Angelina is a dirty minx. I do wish I could take her home with me she is that cute. A quick 15 minute session and as it was fourth come of the day (but fifth session) it took a lot of effort for me to get to the end strokes in her mouth.

Angelina said that next time I had to f**k her anally as I did not last time nor did I this time. She reminded me how much she liked anal and CIM.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

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Ortos
04-16-08, 11:40
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase


**Lara of Greece**

I had interviewed Lara of Greece prior to going into the room. Usually I do not do this interviewing and just go with my instincts. I asked if she kissed, I asked if she did COB, I asked could I do X and Y position. When I got to the room, there was no initial kissing. Then I received my first ever covered Blow job (CBJ) in a FKK from Lara of Greece. She had placed her body over me as I lay down so I could not see what she was doing to my penis but I felt a cover go on and as she sucked my penis. The rest of the session went downhill from there. She did continue to suck me and said that she had a cut in her mouth and would normally perform BBBJ, but for that. I then opted to finish with COB in position X like I showed her prior to entering the room. She said that COB was not allowed and then said her English was bad and did not know what this word “cock” was when I explained the position and asked me to spell cock to her. I was highly sceptical of this reply of not knowing what cock was. She said only knew a man’s schwanz as “penis” in English. She said it was fine for me to masturbate myself to completion if I wanted in a condom. Only redeeming feature was that at the end of the session she let me quickly fondle her tight arse and give her a tongue lashing of her pussy.

[/QUOTE]

You provide no physical description of Lara, so I cannot be sure: But there is a tall dark-haired, tan and rather good looking girl, with prominent tattoo on her back, named Lara who works Palace. If it is this girl, then two things:

1) This girl is definitely NOT Greek. This I can tell you with 1000% certainty. She used to say she was from Croatia, but regardless of what she claims, she is more German in outlook and accent and approach to her job than any other nationality. Don't just accept what girls tell you about their country of origin. Figure it out yourself via the numerous signs one can see. You might say: "What's the difference anyway?" Big difference: If the girl lies and attempts to decieve you about where she comes from, this is a sign she is generally not honest, and....you can fill the rest in...

2) This girl exhibits very clear signs of being a rip-off shark type that guys like you and me (GFE-hunters) should avoid at all costs. The signs are so clear even before you speak to her. Doubly clear once you've engaged in even a two minute conversation. I've never been with her simply because I saw all kinds of red flags well before getting anywhere close to a zimmer with her.You will begin to develop radar about girls like this after you have logged a few more hours doing the FKK thing. Don't get too upset that you got swindled into a session with a girl like this. Just use it as a learning experience and pay closer attention next time pre-session.

Thanks again for great reports!

Orots

Basketcase
04-16-08, 23:36
You provide no physical description of Lara, so I cannot be sure: But there is a tall dark-haired, tan and rather good looking girl, with prominent tattoo on her back, named Lara who works Palace. If it is this girl, Hi Ortos,

Sorry I should have taken more of an effort and write out a fuller trip report. I omitted a number of observations and lists of girls that I saw and incidents. I have had comments that my reports are long so I am trying to write less and just write about the girls.

My recollection of Lara of Greece’s description is of a tanned, slim, A cup, tall, small narrow face, with brown eyes, long dirty blonde hair, small great looking tight butt and quite leggy. He facial features were not pretty (like Jenna of Czech was to me); Lara was more like an attractive girl if that makes sense. Lara wore a pink skirt wrap around her waist and had a fondness for pink. In the room she showed me her pink purse, her pink containers full of oils, lubricants, and her pink vibrator. Maybe because of the good tan I could see a Medeterrean look about her especially in her kinked nose.

There were two other gentlemen that I had gotten friendly with on that Sunday at Palace who also talked to Lara of Greece and got the answer that she was from Athens. I was not going to say I did not believe her when she said the same to me.

Her English was quite good so that was why I was skeptical that she had never come across English speaking men at the club referring to their cocks. What made it worse was her insisting I spell cock to her and making a joke that it was like the word cook.


1) This girl is definitely NOT Greek. This I can tell you with 1000% certainty. She used to say she was from Croatia, but regardless of what she claims, she is more German in outlook and accent and approach to her job than any other nationality. Don't just accept what girls tell you about their country of origin. Figure it out yourself via the numerous signs one can see. You might say: "What's the difference anyway?" Big difference: If the girl lies and attempts to deceive you about where she comes from, this is a sign she is generally not honest, and....you can fill the rest in...

Ortos, I thank you for the friendly advice. I suppose I am a bit of innocent in Germany as I am speaking a foreign language. I am better in London navigating my private parties where the girl line ups are mainly English girls, Brazilians and girls from the nearer Eastern European countries. I have yet to come across Bulgarians and Romanians in the private rooms that I visit.

In English I can ask a few probing questions and make an assessment of how well they know their country of origin. In German I am a bit more out of my depth. When I was sitting with Julia of the Ukraine which I am now told is Julia/Yulia of Romania I tried to find out how much she knew of Odessa or Sevastopol but got mute responses. For Romanians I try to discuss whereabouts there home is in relation to the Carpathians.


2) This girl exhibits very clear signs of being a rip-off shark type that guys like you and me (GFE-hunters) should avoid at all costs. The signs are so clear even before you speak to her. Doubly clear once you've engaged in even a two minute conversation. I've never been with her simply because I saw all kinds of red flags well before getting anywhere close to a zimmer with her.You will begin to develop radar about girls like this after you have logged a few more hours doing the FKK thing. Don't get too upset that you got swindled into a session with a girl like this. Just use it as a learning experience and pay closer attention next time pre-session.

You have found me out Ortos. If I had a choice of a GFE or a PSE I would go for the GFE. See my recent report in the Oase thread of my sessions with Verona of Croatia. I suppose I need to continue to hone my radar as each inopportune decision does cost especially as I tend to go for 100€ half hour sessions due to the CIM or COB option that I enjoy thoroughly.

Thank you Ortos, I did not become upset. Getting upset and taking her to the management was to me not going to solve very much apart from making people unhappy and me more renowned. Lara and I still exchanged smiles for the rest of the afternoon but they were a bit forced smiles saying I had no hard feelings for you because you did not let me complete the way I had such high hopes for and agreed beforehand. I had even conducted the interview with Lara in front of another guy I had become friendly with. So I have a witness of what I was asking and her positive confirmations that they were all possible services.

Its situations like this that makes me return to the girls that I have found that I have enjoyed the sessions immensely. Angelina of Czech was my favourite at Palace. I can see her processing guys including me but she is soooo cute and does her services so well and she worked so hard during my Easter trip to extract the FT bonuses from me and she consumes my come like its mother’s milk. Yulia of Ukraine/Romania also did it for me as she did the same sort of thing that Verona of Croatia at Oase did of mouth on shaft and hand on balls combination that had me climbing the walls. It was just the right touch. I punt to find the girls that do that to me.


Thanks again for great reports!

Thank you for your feedback Ortos. Coming from you that is high praise indeed.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Ortos
04-17-08, 11:29
In English I can ask a few probing questions and make an assessment of how well they know their country of origin. In German I am a bit more out of my depth. When I was sitting with Julia of the Ukraine which I am now told is Julia/Yulia of Romania I tried to find out how much she knew of Odessa or Sevastopol but got mute responses. For Romanians I try to discuss whereabouts there home is in relation to the Carpathians.



You have found me out Ortos. If I had a choice of a GFE or a PSE I would go for the GFE. See my recent report in the Oase thread of my sessions with Verona of Croatia. I suppose I need to continue to hone my radar as each inopportune decision does cost especially as I tend to go for 100€ half hour sessions due to the CIM or COB option that I enjoy thoroughly.


Its situations like this that makes me return to the girls that I have found that I have enjoyed the sessions immensely. Angelina of Czech was my favourite at Palace. I can see her processing guys including me but she is soooo cute and does her services so well and she worked so hard during my Easter trip to extract the FT bonuses from me and she consumes my come like its mother’s milk. Yulia of Ukraine/Romania also did it for me as she did the same sort of thing that Verona of Croatia at Oase did of mouth on shaft and hand on balls combination that had me climbing the walls. It was just the right touch. I punt to find the girls that do that to me.





You write great reports and you don't need to praise anybody else, least not myself. Keep it up.

One thing, though, I keep asking myself when I read you constantly swallowing (hook, line and sinker) the stories some of these girls tell you about their country: Can't this guy tell for himself whether the girl is "Ukrainian" vs Romanian, or "Greek" vs German???? I mean: can't you pick up on the accent and other clear signs of where a certain girl is from? It is so blatently obvious to me where a lot of these girls come from, and certainly it is so easy to see if a girl is German or not. So regardless of where a girl like Lara says she's from, she is as German as Bratwurst mit senf! Look at the accent mannn! Accents in English and auf Deutsch just shouts this out, as does her attitude about sessions in the room. And don't confuse girls who may be from some EE background, but grew up most of their lives in Germany, so are just as German in outlook as any home-born Fraulein. Get my point.

Just one favour: Please drop the reference Julia of Ukraine. Everybody here has told you she is from Romania 1000%, and it seems like you refuse to let go to the hope that she might in fact be Ukrainian. I dispair to see a mongering brother clinging to such a bald-faced lie.

Keep honing your radar, you will start to see in 3-D in no time, mate!

Looking forward to your next round of reports about the NRW clubs.

Ortos

Hessen Bub
04-18-08, 10:16
Nice place to live, but a bit of a commute to Hessen.

2 hours by plane, cheap flights, easier and faster than going by car from Munich or Berlin or Hamburg.

HB

Basketcase
04-20-08, 02:12
Hi Ortos,


You write great reports and you don't need to praise anybody else, least not myself. Keep it up. Thank you Ortos. I appreciate the feedback.


One thing, though, I keep asking myself when I read you constantly swallowing (hook, line and sinker) the stories some of these girls tell you about their country: Can't this guy tell for himself whether the girl is "Ukrainian" vs Romanian, or "Greek" vs German???? I am sorry. It appears my track history has not been good. I sometimes cannot tell people from my own home country. At Oase I asked a German if he was American because he spoke English so well and had a US drawl. Luckily the gentleman took it in his stride as the man he was with was American (there were actually two other Americans) and saw that I must have mistaken it through the accents being used.

I try to look past nationalities to the person. I try my best to be neutral as I work internationally so I have to work hard to understand their words and not dwell on the accent that is making the words harder to hear. That may be it. Then again I could just be bad at telling apart nationalities. I do better when you are wearing clothes as that helps me a lot. LOL.


I mean: can't you pick up on the accent and other clear signs of where a certain girl is from? It is so blatently obvious to me where a lot of these girls come from, and certainly it is so easy to see if a girl is German or not. So regardless of where a girl like Lara says she's from, she is as German as Bratwurst mit senf! Look at the accent mannn! Accents in English and auf Deutsch just shouts this out, as does her attitude about sessions in the room. And don't confuse girls who may be from some EE background, but grew up most of their lives in Germany, so are just as German in outlook as any home-born Fraulein. Get my point. I have only the mono lingual capability of English I sorry to say. I wish I had more languages. Maybe I need to live in Netherlands or Germany to learn a language besides English.

Ortos, I thank you for the advice to be more aware of the nationality as determinants of the service that can be provided. It is just that I try to be neutral to nationality. At work we are happy to deal with any nation provided that they are not a banned country under the United Nations. We find someone who can speak the language and send them off to sell them our products. I am cooped up in London because I do not have language skill. I would love to be sent to Saudi Arabia or Sudan to do some business. Arabic is not one of my languages.


Just one favour: Please drop the reference Julia of Ukraine. Everybody here has told you she is from Romania 1000%, and it seems like you refuse to let go to the hope that she might in fact be Ukrainian. I dispair to see a mongering brother clinging to such a bald-faced lie. Ortos, its not that I am refusing to believe that Julia is from Romania; I do believe it. I wrote it that way to ensure the continuity of the thread for anyone else coming to this thread mid way and wondered why the discussion of Yulia of Romania came about. I was trying to be thoughtful in my writing like I keep getting told at work and how I was taught at school. Writing is meant to be audience targeted.

I am not clinging to any hope that Yulia is Ukrainian. I do not mind that she is Romanian. Fine by me.


Keep honing your radar, you will start to see in 3-D in no time, mate! Thank you Ortos. I shall try my best in the FKKs of Hessen and sauna clubs of NRW and eventually in August I will be adding Berlin to my wanderings. Prague is for July.


Looking forward to your next round of reports about the NRW clubs.

There appears to be a messe in NRW next week so I have not been able to stay in NRW itself but in Southern Netherlands in a village outside of Roermond. Sadly its North of Roermond and not South of Roermond so nowhere near Melick for Yin Yang. It is going to be an 8 km drive from where I am staying to Ying Yang.

Do not fear I will give my newbie style reports of my initial thoughts of the NRW sauna clubs that I will visit. I enjoy writing them to share as this is how we pay back to this community and path the way for others to follow and continue the interest that funds this business so that we can all enjoy the new and pretty girls drawn into this industry.

The intention is over my 5 days to visit each of Goldentime, Living Room, Villa Vertigo, Planet Happy Garden and Yin Yang. These are the places that have been reported the most widely and appear to have the better line-ups and facilities for the all day and evening visits. They close at 1 am or 3am for Living room so less opportunity for me to stay up to 5am like at Oase.

Take care.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

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Basketcase
04-20-08, 02:16
2 hours by plane, cheap flights, easier and faster than going by car from Munich or Berlin or Hamburg.

HBThank you for the clarification and reality check that sometimes international travel is quicker than local commuting. I should know as its sometimes quicker for me to fly to Amstersdam from London Gatwick than it is for me to take the tube from my home to London Heathrow.

If 2 hours is correct then Sunny could be flying in and out each day rather than take the train into work at Palace. Carbon emissions may be high though.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

HardWork
04-23-08, 19:23
FP Late Sunday stayed 2.5hrs from 12 to 2:30am

Took my time to familiarise myself with FP. Went to the bar where I was able to obtain unlimited amounts of soft drinks and coffee without any problems from the attentive staff. Encountered the Kino room with no live action available at the time.
I saw a blond (short bob) pretty face, white, 160cms, average size body build with size b boobs (?Ewa) .Said she was from Poland. Very professional, no chance to even consider bbbj although I only accept CBJs anyway. CBJ lasted all of 3 mins followed by sex in 3 different positions. Nothing to keep me there so I did my deed and quickly left. I don't practice DATY on SPs so dont know if this is offered although I was allowed to finger her.

HardWork
04-23-08, 19:28
Went back to FP as I had a few hours to spare. MY experience the previous late night wasn’t superb (provider wise) but the facilities were outstanding. The massuer was busy and was not available for another 5hrs which was a complete bummer.
The girls I experienced this time were:

Melissa German

Tall 1.75 at least. Attractive blond with C breasts nice bottom. She was fairly routine without anything outstanding to speak of.

Angelie from Czech Republic.

Incredible girl stands 1.55 weighs 45 and has D cups. My dream come true: Petite chick with giant honkers. She tried hard and provided an excellent CBJ followed by sex in as many positions you wanted within time frame. Tried to upsell to CIM including anal.

Lorena Moldovia or Romanian

She is 1.65 tall slim with a magnificent body (arse that is) but smaller B sized boobs. She sat at various times with her legs open and also bent over provocatively. She is certainly quite sexy. She was enthusuastic providing me with a suberb CBJ (although bbbj is offered). She will try any positions and we went from doggie to doggie flat on her stomach, spooning, girl on top with Lorena working hard (but not as much as the Polish girls from by Mediteran post), mish to mish with fingers. There was a rest session halfway through as she started providing CBJ again. Finally finished with mish and doggie. I had 10 mins left and she spent the time talking to me. She is certainly a great asset to FP and any punters heading into Palace should sort her out. Almost as good as Anna.

Would definitely repeat the Angelie and Lorena esp Lorena.

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Ffmbud
04-24-08, 00:28
Planning to be at the Palace July 21 during a flight layover so to speak :8^).......planning ahead. Found an IBIS hotel nearby........

http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1589/fiche_hotel.shtml

Check out the map...just down the street from Konigsberger Str. for only 53 euros per night. It ain't the Ritz but I hope to be spending most of my leisure time at the Palace.

Travelerb69
04-29-08, 03:03
Palace- Got there on a Thursday at about 20:00, and the parking lot was full, had to park outside. Took the robe, I prefer it to towels, showered and off to the bar. First impression was not good, did not like the line-up. As soon as we got to the bar we were approached by some very pushy girls. Contrary to Oase the day before, no talk, straight to “Do you want sex?’ “Wanna go to a room?” This kept on with a very few exceptions for the whole night… Being a gentleman and accustomed to the harassment, politely brush them off(something like- not now, may be later…). However, some of them took it literally and after 5 or 10 minutes came again and again, pathetic. There was a Thai girl, I like Thai women, find them sexy, but this one was terribly ugly, very skinny, just silicon boobs and enormous teeth, she had no teeth but jaws- maybe she took the shark thing too real-…., I would never put my dick between those, she came to ask me if I wanted sex four times, after I had politely declined her with the “not now, may be later”, but she kept –what about now, you said later, why not now? At which point I had no other choice but not to be that polite and directly said -I will not fuck YOU,YOU,now and never, can you understand that, is that clear now? - I do not like doing that but my patience has limits…She became just shocked, and not insisted again. Women there are very, but very, very pushy, mainly if they think you are a newbie.

After a while I went to the kino and was approached by a gorgeous girl, whom I had not seem so far, I could not believe my eyes, blond, perfect silicon boobs, tanned, beautiful face, blue eyes, by far the best-looking girl in the club. Surprisingly, she was also friendly, inteligent and spoke excellent English. Gina, from Czech Republic. Did no take longer till she began BBBJ in the kino, very skilled, no too long either till she asked to go to a room, I agreed.

Getting there, at the very beginning, she told me I could either have a standard session for 50 euros- ½ an hour or go to the full hour GFE for 100 euros. Although of course I did not like the upselling, as I knew the reputation of Palace I thought about accepting it, but then I made clear I wanted to cum twice for that price and time. For my surprise she did not agree, said it was not the standard price deal there…, adding that she understood I did not know that for being my first time there… However, we did not quarrel, she was being a shark in very polite way, she knows how to do her business. She is so beautiful I did not want to cancel the session and kept on with the 1/2 hour session, In fact it was pretty reasonable, BBJ, 69, kissing, except for the fact that she never got really involved, and after a while she stopped what we were doing and proceeded to the next step, very business-like. Of course I did not like that but was very horny about her and just proceeded fucking her in several positions till I came doggish. At least she did not complain about being pumped neither tried to shorten the session, I stayed about almost 30 minutes in the room. In the end , she was still friendly, kissed me after receiving the money and afterwards however clearly looking for other customers every now and then she smiled, waved or said something to me. She is a bit of a processor but at least knows how to do her business. If I went to Palace again, something I do not even consider now, I would probably go for the 100 euro session, she is so professional that it might be good anyway. However, in terms of looks, she is, in my opinion, gorgeous, 10 both in face and body, one of the best in all the clubs I went to.


Gina, Czech
Face-10
Body-10
Performance-7,0
Attitude-5,0

Then I ate something, again some harassment from the girls, actually 2 of them were friendly, one from Dominican Republic, with glasses, however a 4 or 5 in my scale and one german girl, Steffi, good talking but not my type.

Had lots of difficult to choose a new girl to fuck, just did not like either their looks or attitude. Then I spotted a beautiful brunette, just after she received her money and the customer looked not euphoric but rather satisfied. I am not really sure about her name but 90% sure it is Simone. She is Hungarian, brunette, long hair in a pony-tail sometimes, green (or blue)eyes, good natural boobs, very attractive. Although friendly at first, after one minute of talk she asked if wanted to go to a room, whatever, I had no other option, at least she was pretty, off to the room. She did not try to upsell, but was very mechanical, light kissing, BBJ, daty, 69, everything clock-watched, just like Gina, but not friendly. Then I began pumping her and after 15 minutes -Yes, I am a time-watcher too-…she said it was too much for 50 euros, and rushed me to cum as soon as possible? I said WHAT?We still have 15 minutes, no way. After this I just lost my erection and had to start it all over, she made a BBJ with a terrible handjob while my dick was not hard enough, I do no not know how I managed to get my dick hard again and I fucked her a bit more, doggish, but in a terrible mood. Again the complaint - C’,mon baby(I hate that), it is too much for 50 euros - , I just realized I would not cum anyway and ended the game at 25 minutes. Then while waiting for the money she was sighing impatiently, she is a very classical shark indeed, I have to say. I had forgotten her name and since it was important to report it here so you can avoid a shark like her, asked her again at which point she answered something unintelligible probably was something like “fuck you” or similar in Hungarian and turned her back on me, very nice girl indeed.... For the rest of the night I kept on observing her and she came back from the sessions in more or less 10 minutes, I was probably lucky and persistent to remain for 25 minutes, she probably hated me for having ruined her business in such a bad way…

Simone(?)not 100% sure, can someone confirm her name?, Hungary
Face-9,0
Body-8,5
Performance-2,0
Attitude-0

I kept on observing the girls when receiving the money, you can sit at a small table at the main room and it was possible to see the small lockers’ room area, and with most of the girls it was very similar, processed the customers in 10, 15 minutes, that was the average time, and could easily notice the customers were not satisfied at all.

I tried to get to Palace with no previous concepts or expectation from what I had read here, but had to admit it was more or less what I expected. Lots of sharks and processors, just that. Do I regret going there? No, not at all, I had the 3 Frankfurt clubs as a must-see experience and wanted to take my own conclusions. But I have no intention of returning there whatsoever, even if I was staying at the hotel close by which I forgot the name I would go to Oase or World instead. By far the worst of the 3 clubs, actually the only things I liked were the kino, those leveled mattresses are very good to get a bbj or fuck and also the swinging coaches, very comfortable. I know the discussion about Palace has gone over and over in this forum but although having been there just once I also went to 12 other clubs in this trip and regarding girls’ attitude it was by far the worst. I would estimate your chances of getting a shark there are over 90%, yes, you might get good service, if you scan very thoroughly but why insist if you can just go to Oase or World instead and get a much less stressed atmosphere and better service? Even food was worse than at World, may be better than Oase, but nothing to remember about. Regarding line-up, I also found Palace the worst of the three- Oase first, World second and Palace the worst.

Trip report to be continued at the World trend.

Travelerb69

Toscana
04-29-08, 10:28
she was being a shark in very polite way

she is a very classical shark indeedI like mine sleek and slippery myself. Or maybe sinister Transylvanian. Occasionally Palatially predatory . How do YOU like YOUR sharks, gentlemen? LOL. Thanks for the report, Traveler.

Sebastiane
05-04-08, 01:19
Went to Palace again today. Fucked 4 of the girls. The girl I had gone to see (Felice of Sofiia) was there but she had been booked for 5 hours by one old man--I saw him and I don't know what the fuck he'd actually have been able to do he looked so old--i suppose viagra does wonders or maybe he wanted to just talk to her etc. Anyway, its none of my business. Good luck to him --she's a real babe. Well she told me she'd be free at 12.30 am. I told her I'd wait...

Well, put a hot-blooded male into an environment like this and there was no way I was going to be able to wait for 5 hours!

I ended up doing 4 sessions with 4 new girls:

1. Emma -- Tall, slightly heavy built (but not fat), attractive German girl, platinum blonde, v. friendly, good service. 7/10

2. 'Indira' -- a physically very beautiful girl who claimed to be half-Indian/half-Romanian but I am sceptical. She is most likely fully East European but no matter she is a stunner. Friendly although a bit pushy. Quite funny though and a great kisser. Still, too business-like in the room. Ended up talking me into giving her a 100. I had spent maybe a bit over 30 mins but I couldn't be bothered to argue. Looks 9/10 . Service 7/10.

3. Vanessa -Spanish/German chick. Great body and attractive face too. Quite tanned. Straight nose. Perfect derriere. In the bedroom though she just worried about the money---or gave that impression at least. Too time-focused and 'you can do this but not that' etc. Looks 8.5 Service 6

4. Camiglia(?) - Romanian. Beautiful face. Really stunning. Dark haired girl with mesmerising facial features and a mole on her left cheek. Astonishing eyes. Petite. I noticed her beauty whilst she was chatting to another bloke. Friendly. Very good service although would only DFK and let me go down on her for 100. I was too enticed by her face to argue. Great service though. Looks 9.5 (face; body 8) Service 9.

I then had spent all my money and luckily spotted Felice to tell her I was too knackered now to wait another hour for her to finish with this old geezer--she was taking a break to freshen up again--and I regretfully left without poking this lovely woman again. Ah well, there's always a next time. I didn't know one could book a girl like that for so long...

Overall I'd say a good session at Palace but not as good as I had expected.

Am I getting jaded?

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Romanian Lover
05-04-08, 13:50
here is a short list of girls that i rate at palace.

alina / larissa / lary (romania bistrita) going by this name, the 22 yr old romanian is just the cutest girl going. just think young liz hurley and you have it in one. talk about a geniunely nice girl! she has a sister going by the name [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) if this helps. has anyone seen her in the last 6 mths?

olimpia (romania sibiu) i'm not sure why people think this girl is bad? she is a super star. and has been more than nice to me! i can't think of anything that woud say she was anything but a princess!

gina (chq) super smile. and killer eyes.

if anyone has seen the first girl of late i would be interested in hearing! i heard she had gone to spain for a holiday.

Beffen1
05-06-08, 11:00
.... and the law won (not).

went to palace friday afternoon around 3 pm with a new mongering friend. you will all be very very proud of me when you read my tale of attempted larceny. i survived a major shark attack and heated arguments with the desk lady and the little old man owner. a polish bimbette named jill came to me as i rested under the open window by the bar, started kissing me and jammed her tongue down my throat, then disrobed me, tried to rub little peppy into errection and then tried to go down on me all within the space of 2 minutes. i told her i was making a pause but did not totally reject her kisses, but neither did i in itiatiate or intensify her advances.

when she went for the deal sealing bj, i stopped her and she said i owe her 25 euro for this stellar performance. i said you're fucking nutz- forget it. she said come with me to the desk and i said, i'm, resting, say hi to the reception for me. then i went and sat in the back by the tv room (lol hiding). they found me and the desk ***** started screaming at me saying "you touch a girl, you pay, you kiss a girl you pay". i said "the hell i do, she touched and kissed me so i pay nothing. i come here all the time and go to all the clubs and nowhere does this crap go on, i'll leave and go to oase if you want but i don't give this girl 1 euro." i remained where i was and the two women left. the reception woman seemed to forget about it. jill, however, did not. she came back to me, argued some more, then got the little old man, same thing happened. this time the man had me follow to the front. i sat down at the food area, arguing all the time that i would not pay for a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). he did not seem to speak much english, shouting egal, egal, to all my arguments. but then he too, disappeared and forgot about it. i saw him all night and he ignored me. jill, however, shot me angry looks for a few hours, then she too ignored me as i watched her trying to process men all night with little success. one time at the tail end of the argument, i headed to my locker to get something, and jill attempted to flollow me- i turned and sternly told her, my money is there (in the little lockers). i go to my clothing locker, do not follow me because you will not get one euro. forget it. game over. i win. even shook the guy's hand as we left at 2 am.

i did have two great 1 hour sessions after that, an absolute supermodel tall drop dead gorgeous black haired hungarian goddess named monica with natural c cups and a face and body to die for. apparently, she gives better service for an hour than for 30 minutes, as i pondered the possibilities, we in fact we saw her enter room and leave in less than 1 minute with another guy. i spoke with the guy and he angrily stated that she wants 100 for 30 minutes good service. i chatted with her afterwards and she told me she prefers a 1 hour session, it is more intime etc. i told her i like 1 hour with a hottie provided the girl is into my program, tender, lots of kisses and bj with 69, taking time before the f-ck. monica agreed and she delivered in spades. my compatriot went later for 30 minutes and didn't get quite the kissing that i did but he was fairly happy.

second session was with a little doll from romania named denise (denieessaah), paris hilton/ kate hudson lookalike with a cups. she seemed to be part of the romanian trouble squad but i employed the same deal with her, expressed my wishes and she delivered a great session with superb passionate dfk, fantastic bbbj with 69, and great intercourse.

i must emphasize that the two one hour sessions i had were pretty mind-blowing, i just had to spell out with monica and denisa that i would be happy to stay one hour provided i got dfk, 69 and good bbbj, etc. both girls were gorgeous very compliant, if not gfe-like. and it really was a kick defying that ***** jill and two managers who both demanded i pay her 25 euro and i refused to back down, so they did. i’m not usually so assertive, you should have been there guys. no bouncers were around, might have been different if they had some gorillas around. imagine.

beffen

Toscana
05-06-08, 14:35
.....this report by one of the most experienced reporters on the FKK thread speaks for itself. Beffen can defend himself; the tourists they are out to trap have little chance.

It is a shame the culture seems to be encouraging more and more girls to try their luck at such cheating. Indefensible that the management appears to be part of the whole cynical scam. Pity the honest providers.

Chercherfemmes
05-06-08, 17:33
This review is from my winter trip to Germany. I also visited PHG and Oase during the trip.

After finishing up my work for my visit to Germany, I had a couple hours free during my last day in the country before catching my flight to Prague. I decided to check out Palace again since it's easy to get there from downtown via train and then easy to get to the airport from Palace by train as well.

Since my visit was early afternoon, there wasn't a lot of top notch talent walking around compared to what I've seen here in the past. I've also read on the ISG that while prices here have gone up, service levels have gone down. I can't give a good opinion on that since I wasn't here very long this time. In fact I only saw 1 SP this day although it was for an hour session.

Lily is an early 20s tallish blonde Russian who's not a spinner but has curves in the right places. She's also quite friendly and eager to please. She approached me but was quite nice about my not wanting to jump into a room with her right away. We shared a drink and some talk along with some kisses and under-towel groping at a couch before finally heading to a room. She did not disappoint in the room and was fully GFE. Lilly has been living in Germany for a while and speaks good German. Fortunately for me, she also speaks good English.

These are some notes for those who want to make a quick strike at Palace before a flight or during a layover in Frankfurt:

I'm pretty sure that Palace is the closest FKK to Frankfurt airport, and it is by far the easiest to get to, either by taxi or train. A five hour layover should be enough time to enjoy a couple of sessions at Palace which is far better than sitting at the airport trying to kill time. Hopefully your luggage will be checked automatically to your destination. However if it isn't or if you want to leave your carry-on luggage at the airport, each terminal has place where you can check your luggage for a few hours at a set price per piece. Something like E3 or E4 each.

On a tight schedule, taxis are probably your best bet, especially since you will not need to be on the road during rush hour. The drive should take 20-30 minutes in each direction.

If you have more time, the trains (S-bahn/U-bahn) are very easy and would take around 45 minutes in each direction. If you take the trains, you need to catch the S-8 or S-9 (Frankfurt direction) from terminal 1 at the airport to the Hauptwache/Zeil station then transfer to either the U-6 (Praunheim/Heerstr. direction) or the U-7 (Hausen direction). You'll get off the train at the Industriehof/Neue Borse station. Wait until the train departs, then take the walkway at the front of the station across the tracks to the left according to the direction of your train. Then walk right along the fence separating the train tracks and the road until you come to an opening in the fence. Turn left thru the fence and walk straight along the road for a couple blocks and you'll see a large sign for the Palace on your left.

A quick note for using the trains. You have to pay with Euros (coins or notes) in the automatic machines that can be found near every station. First you chose your destination from the list, then choose your fare category (one person, one way or round trip). Then insert the amount of money the machine asks for.

While Palace does have its share of sharks, there are ways to determine whether your choice is one of them. In Palace the SPs are more likely to approach you than at other FKKs, so you have to figure it out. I usually use the kiss test. I'll chat with them at the bar and then bring them over to a couch. Their hands should usually be wandering under your robe the whole time, and they should at least seem interested in spending time with you. There should be some lfk or dfk at the couch. For those into public bbbj (not me), they will often do that at the couches or in the Kino (room showing cheesy porns). Turn away those who insist on immediately going to a room.

I actually enjoyed the Palace in the past, but then I survived the old Harmony in NYC where half of the persistant dancers looked like the Bride of Frankenstein's uglier sisters. For the record, the other half of the Harmony dancers were usually pretty hot.

Despite this I would no longer recommend Palace other than for a quick visit. The place has really gone downhill over the past few year as the percentage of sharks increases. Just remember to bring a fully functioning GFE sensor. If you need help with this look up Routard's great series of posts on Chica Management in the Colombia section of ISG. It's the most worthwhile reading you'll do here.

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Chaudry
05-06-08, 18:42
.... and the law won (not).

went to palace friday afternoon around 3 pm with a new mongering friend. you will all be very very proud of me when you read my tale of attempted larceny. i survived a major shark attack and heated arguments with the desk lady and the little old man owner. a polish bimbette named jill came to me as i rested under the open window by the bar, started kissing me and jammed her tongue down my throat, then disrobed me, tried to rub little peppy into errection and then tried to go down on me all within the space of 2 minutes. i told her i was making a pause but did not totally reject her kisses, but neither did i in itiatiate or intensify her advances.

when she went for the deal sealing bj, i stopped her and she said i owe her 25 euro for this stellar performance. i said you're fucking nutz- forget it. she said come with me to the desk and i said, i'm, resting, say hi to the reception for me. then i went and sat in the back by the tv room (lol hiding). they found me and the desk ***** started screaming at me saying "you touch a girl, you pay, you kiss a girl you pay". i said "the hell i do, she touched and kissed me so i pay nothing. i come here all the time and go to all the clubs and nowhere does this crap go on, i'll leave and go to oase if you want but i don't give this girl 1 euro." i remained where i was and the two women left. the reception woman seemed to forget about it. jill, however, did not. she came back to me, argued some more, then got the little old man, same thing happened. this time the man had me follow to the front. i sat down at the food area, arguing all the time that i would not pay for a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). he did not seem to speak much english, shouting egal, egal, to all my arguments. but then he too, disappeared and forgot about it. i saw him all night and he ignored me. jill, however, shot me angry looks for a few hours, then she too ignored me as i watched her trying to process men all night with little success. one time at the tail end of the argument, i headed to my locker to get something, and jill attempted to flollow me- i turned and sternly told her, my money is there (in the little lockers). i go to my clothing locker, do not follow me because you will not get one euro. forget it. game over. i win. even shook the guy's hand as we left at 2 am.

i did have two great 1 hour sessions after that, an absolute supermodel tall drop dead gorgeous black haired hungarian goddess named monica with natural c cups and a face and body to die for. apparently, she gives better service for an hour than for 30 minutes, as i pondered the possibilities, we in fact we saw her enter room and leave in less than 1 minute with another guy. i spoke with the guy and he angrily stated that she wants 100 for 30 minutes good service. i chatted with her afterwards and she told me she prefers a 1 hour session, it is more intime etc. i told her i like 1 hour with a hottie provided the girl is into my program, tender, lots of kisses and bj with 69, taking time before the f-ck. monica agreed and she delivered in spades. my compatriot went later for 30 minutes and didn't get quite the kissing that i did but he was fairly happy.

second session was with a little doll from romania named denise (denieessaah), paris hilton/ kate hudson lookalike with a cups. she seemed to be part of the romanian trouble squad but i employed the same deal with her, expressed my wishes and she delivered a great session with superb passionate dfk, fantastic bbbj with 69, and great intercourse.

i must emphasize that the two one hour sessions i had were pretty mind-blowing, i just had to spell out with monica and denisa that i would be happy to stay one hour provided i got dfk, 69 and good bbbj, etc. both girls were gorgeous very compliant, if not gfe-like. and it really was a kick defying that ***** jill and two managers who both demanded i pay her 25 euro and i refused to back down, so they did. i’m not usually so assertive, you should have been there guys. no bouncers were around, might have been different if they had some gorillas around. imagine.

beffenthis is the crux of the matter, the mgmt at palace knows about the rip off schemes being done by the girls and does nothing about it. in this case they were actually supporting it.

i understand from one of the massage girls that sometime ago the palace mgmt/ownership changed. if this is true then it may explain the downward fall of the club. i remember the time in 2005 when a girl tried to give me a cbj and i complained about her. not only did the manager at that time insist on payming me my 50 back, on my subsequent visits i never saw the girl again.

Breadman
05-06-08, 21:42
While Palace does have its share of sharks, there are ways to determine whether your choice is one of them. In Palace the SPs are more likely to approach you than at other FKKs, so you have to figure it out. I usually use the kiss test. I'll chat with them at the bar and then bring them over to a couch. Their hands should usually be wandering under your robe the whole time, and they should at least seem interested in spending time with you. There should be some lfk or dfk at the couch.

We all know or should know that the start of a bbbj is basically agreeing to a session, but you should be careful with the kiss test.... some girls might argue that the kissing signified an agreement for going to the room. If you lean in and give her a kiss, then decide she's not your type...it might be too late to back off. The way management sides with the girls, that kiss might set you back 50 euro's.

Chicafan
05-06-08, 22:02
We all know or should know that the start of a bbbj is basically agreeing to a session, but you should be careful with the kiss test.... some girls might argue that the kissing signified an agreement for going to the room. If you lean in and give her a kiss, then decide she's not your type...it might be too late to back off. The way management sides with the girls, that kiss might set you back 50 euro's.

Yeah, I would think by now management would have told the girls to be careful of trying to entice a guy into a session... that if you(the girl) kiss him or start giving him any kind of sex outside the room without his agreeing that he wants to be with you he does not have to pay. It should be expected that a girl is going to try to entice a man into the room... five minutes of kissing and BBBJ, ok. 10 seconds of kissing then next thing you know she's sucking you off without asking then you almost immediately tell her to stop is not an agreement. Surely they have seen enough situations where surprised guys did not solicit any attention, the girl almost desperately gave it, that they know it is a trap being set.

Basketcase
05-06-08, 22:48
I remember the time in 2005 when a girl tried to give me a CBJ and I complained about her. Not only did the manager at that time insist on payming me my 50 back, on my subsequent visits I never saw the girl again.Chaudry,

I received my first ever CBJ at Palace in April 2008 from Lara of Germany (said she was from Greece) - slim, long darkish blonde hair, brown eyes, a slighly angular face that to me passed for Greek (especially the nose) and wore a small pink bandeau skirt.

As she had my cock in her mouth I was definitely in for €50 so I continued the session unhappily and did not come as she spent more time defending her services and refusing to do other services to assist the matter. What was the most galling was her placing her body in front of my line of sight to perform the CBJ so I could not see that she had placed a condom on me. It was only that I felt it that I demurred to as what was going on.

This event is so sad to me as receiving BBBJ is one of the main reasons I visit German FKKs and saunaclubs. If CBJ become the norm in FKKs I will find my admiration of the FKK concept that much more diminished.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

SX Lover
05-06-08, 22:56
Is famous Bee from Thailand still working. Did not hear about her long time on forum.

Basketcase
05-06-08, 22:57
We all know or should know that the start of a bbbj is basically agreeing to a session, but you should be careful with the kiss test.... some girls might argue that the kissing signified an agreement for going to the room. If you lean in and give her a kiss, then decide she's not your type...it might be too late to back off. The way management sides with the girls, that kiss might set you back 50 euro's.A companion I know had something similar happen at Oase. The girl was Roxanne of Hungary and had asked to sit with him. Roxanne is a curly blonde, petite, brown eyes, slim, enhanced D cups - good body but I do not like her face as it looks so made up (plastic looking) - has a collagen enhanced look to her lips. He indicated no problem to sit next to him. Roxanne sat with him and placed a kiss on him which he did not reciprocate. There was no BBBJ but Roxanne insisted a session had started when she indicated that they proceed to a zimmer. Roxanne kicked up a stink about bringing Oase reception in on the situation and my companion not wanting to create a incident that would spoil his visit decided to split the difference and pay her €25 which she accepted. Reception was not involved but my companion was annoyed and I felt for him.

When girls kiss me I and I do not wish to session with them I always worry that they say that session has started and will demand payment for a full session.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Basketcase
05-06-08, 23:13
GINA (CHQ) super smile. And killer eyes.
My cock aches for Gina of Czech Republic (Moravia - close to Slovakia). I saw her my last trip to Frankfurt in April 2008 and dubbed her my wife. I went with her twice in my afternoon visit to FKK Palace during my early May 2008 trip and had to CIM finish with her each time as her face is so pretty. I enjoyed missionary sex with her the best as she would look up at you with her blue eyes and cheeky smile then run her tongue over her upper lips. Such a sexy look that made me pump her even harder and want to dump my load in that mouth of hers.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Henio
05-06-08, 23:24
Is famous Bee from Thailand still working. Did not hear about her long time on forum. yes, she is still working

Love Palace
05-07-08, 10:41
Is famous Bee from Thailand still working. Did not hear about her long time on forum.She normally works Thursday till Saturday from 10.00 till around 20.00.Same good service. She stops in the evening when she feels she have nothing more to give.

Chercherfemmes
05-07-08, 15:44
We all know or should know that the start of a bbbj is basically agreeing to a session, but you should be careful with the kiss test.... some girls might argue that the kissing signified an agreement for going to the room. If you lean in and give her a kiss, then decide she's not your type...it might be too late to back off. The way management sides with the girls, that kiss might set you back 50 euro's.Good points Breadman. We've got to be careful when we swim in the shark tank.

Are your warnings only referencing Palace or do we need to keep an eye out for this at the better places? I assume it's just Palace.

For the record, if I'm not sure about the girl I usually let her initiate kissing on the couch as a test. That's how it went down with Lily this winter because I was worried about her aggressiveness. Turned out to be a fun session even though she doesn't fall into my preferred spinner category. I was very relaxed on my flight later that day.

Basketcase
05-07-08, 22:13
Good points Breadman. We've got to be careful when we swim in the shark tank.

Are your warnings only referencing Palace or do we need to keep an eye out for this at the better places? I assume it's just Palace. Over the past weekend at Oase, one of my companions got pulled in by Roxanna of Hungary ,long haired blonde Pamela Anderson silicon look alike - not my type despite being blonde. She claimed that he had committed to a session by agreeing for her to sit by him and accepting a kiss (which was just a few friendly pecks from what I understand. There were words and threats of involving the Reception to arbitrate. Not wanting to cause a fuss my companion settled on splitting the difference and gave her €25 to go away. Evil eyes were had by me for her the rest of my stay at Oase.

Not a happy situtation for my kindly friend.

Breadman
05-08-08, 19:42
Are your warnings only referencing Palace or do we need to keep an eye out for this at the better places? I assume it's just Palace.

For the record, if I'm not sure about the girl I usually let her initiate kissing on the couch as a test.

That was a general statement, it could happen anywhere. I actually remember reading that somewhere when I first took the fkk plunge...figured reposting it for the newbies would be appropriate.


Not wanting to cause a fuss my companion settled on splitting the difference and gave her €25 to go away. Evil eyes were had by me for her the rest of my stay at Oase.


This is the time for a real friend to step in and add another 25 and take that girl to a room ;-)

Basketcase
05-09-08, 05:42
Originally Posted by Londonbasketcase:

Not wanting to cause a fuss my companion settled on splitting the difference and gave her €25 to go away. Evil eyes were had by me for her the rest of my stay at Oase.

Breadman wrote:

This is the time for a real friend to step in and add another 25 and take that girl to a room ;-)Breadman,

Now that you mention it - I do see the logic. For €25 extra you can take this blonde artifically boobed Pamela Anderson look alike version away for a session. It may be a bad session because of the way it started but if she still sucks your cock bareback and allows you to have covered sex then that is still a cheaper punt at €25. The session is effectively subsidised. This is the logic looking at the situation in a vaccum.

The guy was a mongering brother so I did not think this and sided with him in terms of him being taken advantage of because of his good nature.

Kind Regards

Londonbasketcase

Vito Corleone
05-09-08, 11:52
My cock aches for Gina of Czech Republic (Moravia - close to Slovakia). I saw her my last trip to Frankfurt in April 2008 and dubbed her my wife. I went with her twice in my afternoon visit to FKK Palace during my early May 2008 trip and had to CIM finish with her each time as her face is so pretty. I enjoyed missionary sex with her the best as she would look up at you with her blue eyes and cheeky smile then run her tongue over her upper lips. Such a sexy look that made me pump her even harder and want to dump my load in that mouth of hers.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase
My cock aches for the "hostel" in Slovakia with all those hot women (minus the torture chambers).

Vito Corleone
05-09-08, 11:58
.... and the law won (not).




Second session was with a little doll from Romania named Denise (denieessaah), Paris Hilton/ Kate Hudson lookalike with A cups. She seemed to be part of the Romanian trouble squad but I employed the same deal with her, expressed my wishes and she delivered a great session with superb passionate DFK, fantastic BBBJ with 69, and great intercourse.

I must emphasize that the two one hour sessions I had were pretty mind-blowing, I just had to spell out with Monica and Denisa that I would be happy to stay one hour provided I got DFK, 69 and good BBBJ, etc. Both girls were gorgeous very compliant, if not GFE-like. And it really was a kick defying that ***** Jill and two managers who both demanded I pay her 25 euro and I refused to back down, so they did. I’m not usually so assertive, you should have been there guys. No bouncers were around, might have been different if they had some gorillas around. Imagine.

beffen
Wassup Beffen,

Good for you. I have a few favs that I really like @ Palace, but some of these scams are just ridiculous.

Man, I was lusting after Denise (Denisa) during my Feb trip. I do not remember, but I must have spent at least 10 hours with her over 3 1/2 days. Off the hook GFE!

Were you wearing your infamous "black socks."?

Beffen1
05-09-08, 23:56
Wassup Beffen,

Good for you. I have a few favs that I really like @ Palace, but some of these scams are just ridiculous.

Man, I was lusting after Denise (Denisa) during my Feb trip. I do not remember, but I must have spent at least 10 hours with her over 3 1/2 days. Off the hook GFE!

Were you wearing your infamous "black socks."?


Don Vito- que se dice?

No, I was not wearing the black socks- those are only for the flithy floors of Madrid hotel brothels.

Ciao bello

beffen

Member #3451
05-10-08, 11:45
Went to Palace yesterday and was prepared for the worst after reading about the recent increase of up-selling, shark-situation which is going on there. Also considered the weather was warm and sunny outside this could be one of the least good days to visit since most punters would prefer Oase or World for the outdoor facilities and one would be an obvious target for money hungry sharks at the Palace.

Well, I was pleasently surprised and spent approx 7 hours and had 4 good sessions.

Got there at 3 pm and a very favorable girls/men ratio which persisted througout the day. The Palace was darker than before and the rooms were incredibly hot. The Kino was empty most of the time but I witnessed a couple of public blowjobs here and there. I was also offered a blowjob at the bar upstairs but refused.

As expected I got immediately under constant attack by some of the girls who were eager for business on a slow day. This can endeed be freaking annoying but it helps my descision making process as I refuse to session with the most agressive ones.

Seriously how can a girl deliver a GFE in the room when she...

a) Does not take a NO! for an answer for the 5th time!
b) Turn around and call you an idiot,
c) Speak to you in Russian and then starts laughing at you with her girlfriends when you politely decline them ?

Not sure if it was my GFE radar that worked perfectly or just sheer luck but I had 4 good sessions:

GINA from the Tchec Rep. Beautiful face, friendly, silicon boobs and a nice firm trimmed body. €50.

LIDIRA from Turkey whom I had sessioned with the last time. Not the prettiest at Palace but always puts on a great effort in the room. Finished with a CIM. €100.

KINRA 25 years old brunette from Romania. Spotted her sitting alone by the pool and struck up a conversation with her. Boobs that were a good handful and a very pretty face. In the room she delivered a true GFE. Lot's of moaning, perfect BBBJ, multiple positions and DFK. She could easily have sold the CIM and doubled her income for the session but she backed off and started to lick my balls when I told her that I was about to come instead of taking the load in her mouth. Funny enough she even complimentet the sight of my sperm! Damage €50.

MARIA 26 years from Spain. Thight little devil who I also enjoyed the session with. Had some communication problems as she did'nt speak english too well. Offered anal which I refused. Has a very thight pussy. Insisted that I come and put on a big effort but I was too tired and worn out. DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions, DATY. Cost €50.

I'll be back tonight.

My best,

Santa75

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West By Sun
05-10-08, 22:28
GINA from the Tchec Rep. Beautiful face, friendly, silicon boobs and a nice firm trimmed body. €50.I say it for honour of Angelina the dirty minx: her tits are natural. No silicon inplanted.

WBS

Zing23
05-11-08, 16:46
When I went to Palace the first 3 times, I had "unlimited time" and I had a lot of trouble making up my mind which girls to session with. This time I had only 3 hours in the afternoon, so I decided in advance to do 2 one-hour sessions with the first girls who I enjoyed talking to. And I brought along my "room kit" from St Maarten (in the Caribbean), which consists of massage oil to give the girl a massage, my own condoms, my ipod and small speakers so we can have romantic music in bed.

Zarze (not sure of the name)

The first girl that I was attracted to was Zarze from Germany: dark hair, big natural breasts, not skinny, not the best looking, but good conversation and good english. Told her I would like an hour with her and to treat her like the long-lost girlfriend of my younger days. This is corny, but it worked. By going for an hour immediately you stand out from the other clients. By saying something romantic, you show you are confident. I told her we needed to drop by my locker to pick up my small room bag. In any case, the session was fine: lots of DFK, BBBJ, massage for her, DATY and 3 positions, all to romantic latin music. No upselling, no scams, no problems.

Emma

Tall (1.80), thin, blond, German, small firm breasts (but I think they are silicon!). I sat down next to her with my diet coke and started to talk. Good english. Claims it is only her second time at Palace. I wasn't sure I was even going to do another session. I told her I was relaxed and happy from my first girl and she would have to be gentle with me. Again I requested an hour and mentioned my bag of tricks.

Within 15 minutes of ending the first session, I wa in the room with Emma. She could have been a disaster, because she wouldn't kiss me on the lips. But because I didn't have time for a third girl, I just ignored that and looked for what she would do. Positive thinking, no complaining. Turns out her BBBJ was perfect for me, using one hand on my shaft and the other on my balls. At about 30 minutes I surprised myself with a climax during the BJ - and she didn't make any effort to upsell me to CIM or turn it into a CIM. I rested next to her for a minute or two, then started massaging her back and neck and feet. When she was good and relaxed I started gently licking her nipples, then the area around her pussy, holding off on the pussy itself until she started to move her hips ever so slightly to make contact with my tongue. Fun DATY. Fun girl. While I was nuzzling and kissing her neck, she reached down and found I was hard again, so she resumed her BBBJ. I let her continue that for the last 10 minutes. At times I felt that just possibly I might pop again (which would be VERY unusual for me), but the moment passed.

I spent the last 20 minutes talking to other girls just for fun. I was in and out of Palace in 3 hours and have no complaints (unlike my first visit 18 months ago when I was seriously scammed).

-zing

Hessen Bub
05-11-08, 16:54
I say it for honour of Angelina the dirty minx: her tits are natural. No silicon inplanted.

WBS

That's right. But Gina from Czech Republic is a different girl, definitely with implants. She does look a little like Gosha/Silvia, Poland.

HB

Member #3451
05-11-08, 18:47
Yep, seems to be many Checs with similar names at the Palace. You have Lina, Gina and Angelina who are all blondes. But Gina as I sessioned with has implants and is worth a try.

Anyway, went again yesterday. More clients and more girls but it was never halfway full, however there was some queing for the rooms around 1AM.

Sessioned with Sandra (german), Rose (bulgar), Coco (Chinese), Amy (Dominican) and Lina (Chech).

Nice sessions overall except with Amy from the Dominican Republic who's a real shark. Once in the room the upselling began. Anything besides normal fuck and suck (kissing, fingering, DATY, coming on her etc.) would cost 50 Euros extra. Of course she did not mention this during the interview. Refused also to suck my balls (the only of the nine girls I went with who did) and I could not come on her anywhere at all.

On the way to the lockers after the session we walked past her friend who I heard asked her about the price of the session we just had and they seemed really disappointed that she ONLY ended up with a "normal" 50 euros session. My advice is to stay away from her.

Priamos
05-11-08, 18:52
Vanessa -Spanish/German chick. Great body and attractive face too. Quite tanned. Straight nose. Perfect derriere. In the bedroom though she just worried about the money---or gave that impression at least. Too time-focused and 'you can do this but not that' etc. Looks 8.5 Service 6

Thanks for confirming my suspicions, Sybarite! I'd very much recommend fellow mongers to be careful about this Spanish/German Vanessa (they've had a couple of recent providers with that name) based on my own experiences last week.

Don't get me wrong: I liked the Palace much better this time than my previous experience. I have adapted to their pricing policy and developed a way of stretching one pop into a one-hour session, thus making it worth the girl's while to provide a good service while at the same time not technically overpaying as we do spend... well 40-50 minutes together. I had very good experiences with "Natasha" from Ukraine, a slim afternoon-worker with trim body and a super attitude to compensate for the fact that she's approaching 30. She even invited me to manhandle her tits and urged me to do with her body "whatteverr I like, dahling!". A younger Czech girl (forgot her name) offered me anal sex in return for 50 euros extra, which technically she shouldn't do (house rules: AS is +100) but thought she could get away with because I'd already ordered 1 hour and hence the price would come to 150. I accepted and she did a great job.

But then there was Vanessa... She approached me in the cinema in the classic touch-me-not-before-you-have-paid, asking me from a distance whether I want her company or not. She came across as a man hater (surely she could have put her arm around me before popping the question?) and I didn't like her fake boobs. However, I don't like telling a girl "sorry you're not my type" so I diplomatically said, "bad luck, sweetie, I come straight from another session" whereupon she turned an left. A few minutes later I came across an old friend, Dinara from Kazakhstan who managed to convince me that what I needed was a BJ with CIM right there in the cinema. Dinara was her usual sweet self and I enjoyed it a lot - I'm beginning to think that the best providers are the eastern girls beyond average age, they really work it!

But, but, but... in the middle of the session Vanessa reentered the cinema and, godhelpme, turned on the light and when she saw me lying there snapped "Hah! So, not in shape, eh?" and stormed out. I shook my head at her fit of hysterics, but 15 minutes later when I was having a sandwich she accosted me in in the buffet. "Du, ich lasse mich nicht verarschen! Hast du verstanden??" accusing me of lying to her face, repeating her accusations around four times at the top of her voice. I said meekly that I though it more polite than to say that I'm not attracted to her, but this only increased her fury: "Huh? So what? I'm not attracted to you. On the contrary! Do you think I'd look twice at an old slob like you outside this club?" Clearly anything I could say was wrong, so I told her peacably to pipe down and went to another room. There, Dinara and another couple of FSU girls rounded on me. What had Vanessa just been shrieking at me, they wanted to know? I told them, following which Dinara walked me to the manager to make a formal complaint. I was not keen to do this, but they begged me to persist: obviously they were furious with her for this "illoyal competition". The manager summoned Vanessa, heard both sides of the story and sided with me, telling her "Oh shut up, this is not about lying. You were just pissed off because he preferred another girl".

Serve her right. I do warn my fellow mongers to look out for that girl. She seems to have a serious attitude problem.

Hessen Bub
05-11-08, 21:51
A younger Czech girl (forgot her name) offered me anal sex in return for 50 euros extra, which technically she shouldn't do (house rules: AS is +100) bI don't think there's a rule for AV-prices. It can be +50, +100, +150. Palace does not tell the girls the price for AV.

So you could tell the girls name without doing her any harm (Angelina?).

HB

West By Sun
05-11-08, 22:00
Gina from Czech Republic is a different girlReally? Thank you for clarification.

WBS

Vito Corleone
05-11-08, 22:54
Yep, seems to be many Checs with similar names at the Palace. You have Lina, Gina and Angelina who are all blondes. But Gina as I sessioned with has implants and is worth a try.

I saw Gina back in Feb & she has a hot bod & pretty face. Great smile. I did not have a chance to try her as I was lusting after Denise & Kim, but is definately on my to do list.

Priamos
05-12-08, 08:19
I don't think there's a rule for AV-prices. It can be +50, +100, +150. Palace does not tell the girls the price for AV.

So you could tell the girls name without doing her any harm (Angelina?).

HB

The thing is, I don't know. It was late evening and I was bit tipsy. But can say his: she was blonde and did not have breast implants. (Does this sound like Angelina?) As for prices, I'm pretty sure there's a price guidance in the Palace. A couple of girls said there is and claimed the same surcharges: 50 for CIM; 100 for anal...

Hessen Bub
05-12-08, 10:34
CIM - yes, 50 extra. Anal - prices will vary.

HB

Rotmos
05-12-08, 19:16
This is my first post on this forum, and I hope to be lucky!

Last year I met this nice girl, she hade a tattoo of a small devil on her ass, do anybody know if she still is around?

Thanks!

Rotmos
05-12-08, 19:34
This is my first post on this forum, so i hope for some luck!

I met this nice girl last sommer at Palace, sha have a tattoo of a small devil on her behind, is she still around?

Thanks!

Basketcase
05-12-08, 21:42
I say it for honour of Angelina the dirty minx: her tits are natural. No silicon inplanted.

WBS

Indeed, I also vouch for the honour of Angelina the dirty little minx. She has heavy and full natural D or E cup tits that are her burden to carry on her petite frame. I just love cupping them and feeling their weight and soft feel. I enjoy coping a feel as she stops by to chat with me.

I saw her last week back from her holidays.

I had to take her away for a session to enjoy her talents at BBBJ, taking a hard cock in her pussy and then having the finishing touch in her mouth. She insisted!! She is a dirty minx and so cute.

Angelina did not like me playing with her long blond hair to her mid waist with slight curls. Mondays are socks or stockings day at Palace and Angelina looked so cute in patterned knee highs.

Angelina has the different habit of starting the BBBJ by wiping your cock with a wet wipe which is strangely erotic when she does it as she is sooo cute.

The only other person I have encountered that does this wet wipe of your knob head is Angela of Poland at Goldentime. Maybe it is a trait of girls called Angela or Angelina. The meaning of Angela is "messenger" as in heavenly angels.

I also did Gina of Czech twice that same day and saw her go through three changes of sock as she kept getting ladders in first her thigh high hold up stockings then in two pairs of knee high socks.

I did a one hour session with Gina and a half hour session with Gina with my usual finishes both times.

A great day as I got to do my two favourite big boobed blonde Czech girls who do all the naughty things I enjoy and do it with gusto and mouths full.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

Vito Corleone
05-13-08, 10:30
The only other person I have encountered that does this wet wipe of your knob head is Angela of Poland at Goldentime. Maybe it is a trait of girls called Angela or Angelina. The meaning of Angela is "messenger" as in heavenly angels.

Londonbasketcase
It is not the norm, but I have had 10-15 women wipe my pipe. I guess 10-15 out of close to 80 is still a small percentage. Denise, Kim & another tall German chick wiped my pipe.

Fats
05-13-08, 17:33
This is my first post on this forum, so i hope for some luck!

I met this nice girl last sommer at Palace, sha have a tattoo of a small devil on her behind, is she still around?

Thanks!

My most recent visit was last month and she was there. She is a fixture in the Palace, you could probably return in 5 years and she will still be there.

Ortos
05-13-08, 21:09
Angelika normally works the dayshift at Palace, so if you are bent on a session with her, best to go before 1700...

Rotmos
05-13-08, 21:33
My most recent visit was last month and she was there. She is a fixture in the Palace, you could probably return in 5 years and she will still be there.Thank you for response. Even if I was kind of hoping that she hade moved on tho some other buissness. But good for me if she is awailible!

Chicafan
05-13-08, 21:54
Angelika normally works the dayshift at Palace, so if you are bent on a session with her, best to go before 1700...

Is Angelika attractive and a good session?

I have a friend going to be at Palace from 11am-3pm later this month. He has business appt at 4pm. Should he expect very few girls at these hours?

Fats
05-14-08, 01:45
Is Angelika attractive and a good session?



She is not a good session, she is a great session and she looks good for her age. She is a lot closer to forty than she is to thirty.

Ortos
05-14-08, 05:26
Is Angelika attractive and a good session?

I have a friend going to be at Palace from 11am-3pm later this month. He has business appt at 4pm. Should he expect very few girls at these hours?

I think the answer to you question about her attractiveness: it depends who you ask. As for performance: Certainly above average. In her heyday, back at Atlantis in 2001-3, she was quite the session queen, being voted best session in FKKland by one of the prominent German boards.

Personally, I like the afternoon shift at Palace alot. Probably by 16.00 there will be a dozen or more stalwart providers, mostly older more experienced ones, some who payed their dues and gained their fame a few years ago doing the night shifts and have now graduated to the more mellow, less hectic conditions that prevail during the day. Go and look, you will see...

Ortos

Ebauche
05-14-08, 15:25
Is Angelika attractive and a good session?

I have a friend going to be at Palace from 11am-3pm later this month. He has business appt at 4pm. Should he expect very few girls at these hours?
Average looking face. Thin tight body, especially for age. I might put her OVER 40. Definitely smokes. Very friendly, good sense of humor, good conversation, excellent English.

Fantastic cocksucker. Swallows.

Dedalus
05-14-08, 17:25
Average looking face. Thin tight body, especially for age. I might put her OVER 40. Definitely smokes. Very friendly, good sense of humor, good conversation, excellent English.



Hey,

Angelique? Russian/Kazakhstan? Use to be THE gal at Atlantis? Miss Roemerforum for a few years?

Excellent English? Since when? Back when I use to go with her she had about as much English as the ancient Etruscans. 'Bout all she could say is "You look Bin Laden." Not to me, of course. To another Gent who trods this board.

Times change, or perhaps it is a different gal.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Dreams
05-14-08, 17:54
I think the answer to you question about her attractiveness: it depends who you ask. As for performance: Certainly above average. In her heyday, back at Atlantis in 2001-3, she was quite the session queen, being voted best session in FKKland by one of the prominent German boards.

Personally, I like the afternoon shift at Palace alot. Probably by 16.00 there will be a dozen or more stalwart providers, mostly older more experienced ones, some who payed their dues and gained their fame a few years ago doing the night shifts and have now graduated to the more mellow, less hectic conditions that prevail during the day. Go and look, you will see...

Ortos
Just to second everything said by Ortos...
I much more prefer the pm sessions, perhaps because I am myself not any more in my prime youth.. But far less hectic than evenings, lots of time to chat etc..

And with regards to Angelika, yes also to whatever has been written about her; definitively not competing on the look item with the siliconed blonde models, but, in term of service, she remains on top. And she is fun;
Yes her english is very limited , but sufficient to communicate and have good laughs.

Sexfan
05-14-08, 18:31
Average looking face. Thin tight body, especially for age. I might put her OVER 40. Definitely smokes. Very friendly, good sense of humor, good conversation, excellent English.

Fantastic cocksucker. Swallows.

She is mid 30. Really good service, but she used to be better when she was at Atlantis.
The cosmetic surgery of her nose was a bad idea. She looked better before.