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This sounds like a cover up job. I like the proverbial FKK promise. I. E. Nekked. I. E "what yee see, is what yee get ". Never mind this cover up. If the gal is trying to hide something. Then I do not want to pay to see stretch marks, or whatever.
This is unfortunate. I have always liked Palace but now may avoid.
By the way, who gives out the sanctioned "FKK" rating.? I. E. If lady's are no longer walking around naked, then the FKK designation is to be dropped?
Caveat Emptor!
Strato.
With all the complaints about how most girls are covered up most of the time at Palace, has any of you noticed that Palace has dropped the word "FKK" from its website (except for a small print on the Kontakt page) and their business cards? It now says "Gentlemen's Sauna Club" instead of "Gentlemen's FKK-Sauna Club", the latter was printed on the old card I still have from a few years ago but the former is what you will see on the new cards now.
Saskia is 1 of my favorites and I've always found her attractive, from the very first time I saw her. What made her appealing to me is her classy and professional look, like the tall, slim, and pretty Lufthansa flight attendant that you had once fantasized banging. The best part is that she is very GFE and seems to enjoy sex too, at least when she is with me. I saw her a couple of times enjoying the porno movies in the kino by herself.
She does not usually actively market herself around the room but she does'nt need to as she seems to be busy most of the time. I'm quite surprised not to hear much mention of her in this forum, maybe she is a bit too mature for some (30 yo).
She speaks good English, never upsells and will do it in the kino with you if you ask. I still vividly remembered the nice bbbj she gave me on the couch the first time I met her.Atooz:
Thanks a lot for your comment on Saskia, now I am kicking myself again but this time twice as hard. I missed two chances to session with her and one of the reasons was that she looked "intimidating", meaning too attractive for high expectation. I hope she will still be there in the next few months when I try to make it back to Palace.
BTW, did she do CIM? Don't think this is a silly question. One normally would gladly accept this 50 Euro option but I have been rejected once (but only once) by a young German chick (at Palace) who was adamant about not offering CIM, all she wanted was a normal session for 50, the 50 extra did not entice her one bit.
If you don't get the right vibe from a girl, its best not to try her.
For that reason, I had considered Michelle several times, but never actually gone with her.
But thanks for the report. You have saved me from ever considering her again.
Although girls like Angelina look incredibly hot, I have never got a good friendly vibe from her, therefore she never even gets tried by me.
You should have taken either Bee (Thai) or Mitsu (Japanese). Both very highly recommended indeed.
I have recently discovered that Mitsu does highly paid Escort work too. That's why she is missing sometimes or leaves at 1.00AM sometimes.
By the way. One Indian customer recently has been, trying to cheat the girls. Going to the room for 45 mins, the rules are that you must pay for full hour.
He went with Mitsu also for virtually the full hour, but only wanted to pay 50. Mitsu explained that it would be 100.
His reply "But I really like you" does not really help.
Hope it wasn't you, Sapswami (gee that's as hard to spell correctly as my handle - I nearly wrote Swapsami).
I also don't really like the rule (would prefer to pay for extra time pro-rata) but rules are rules. I was even suprised to learn that there is a rule that "come on body" costs 50 Euro, which is ridiculous in my book, since a normal 30 min session is only 50.
Fortunately kissing is no extra charge for most good girls.
To the Newbies at Palace on Thursday, sorry I didn't make it. Hope you found some of the highly recommended girls.Cim_Krickle:
In my 25 years of FKKing, I might have unintentionally gone over 30 minutes by five minutes once or twice. Since rules are rules and I am a rule-abiding FKKer, I had no problem paying the extra whether I liked it or not. As to staying more than 30 minutes intentionally, I have done that many times but each time I would get the provider's acknowledgment and mutual agreement on the new total price. Regarding this particular Indian guy intentionally trying to cheat the providers, he was simply asking for unnecessary trouble at an establishment where one should try to lay as low as possible.
I have to downgrade Alice now.
She agreed her name is Alice, or Alize, or whatever way you want. Clearly not the real name.
Dark blonde with upper lip diamond and bolt-ons. I prefer real tits.
Not using gel is a problem, unless you want to screw for a very short time.
Turns out her BBBJ is a bit too strong for me. I prefer softer. While kissing is her best mode of operation, she now tells me that she doesn't really kiss. Why I got wonderful kissing is not clear.
Of course she will always kiss for extra money. Bummer!
I'll go back to my regulars who kiss just great for free thanks.
Indira is not really my favourite either although does blow well and has great tits. Not a GFE though.
I am also downgrading this chick: This chick has basically one asset - a very pretty face, that is it. However, this is a pretty hairy chick with a face fully of peach fuzz and legs like cactus. I still have streak marks in my palm from two weeks ago for running my hand down her legs. She walks around like she is a big little star, and little means she is less than 5 feet tall. I tried her once and it was kind of a waste of 50 Euros, simply nothing to write home about.
Hessen Bub
08-24-09, 07:08
Yes, Palace is probably the only club in Germany where the extras have been defined through a pictogram card. And they do define COB as an extra. What does not mean that all girls do charge it. And it also does not imply that in other clubs (where it is not 100% defined as not an extra) you will not get charged a surplus. It's so easy: Talk to the girl and then decide where to put your load.
HB
Atooz:
Thanks a lot for your comment on Saskia, now I am kicking myself again but this time twice as hard. I missed two chances to session with her and one of the reasons was that she looked "intimidating", meaning too attractive for high expectation. I hope she will still be there in the next few months when I try to make it back to Palace.
BTW, did she do CIM? Don't think this is a silly question. One normally would gladly accept this 50 Euro option but I have been rejected once (but only once) by a young German chick (at Palace) who was adamant about not offering CIM, all she wanted was a normal session for 50, the 50 extra did not entice her one bit.
I had never done CIM with Saskia but if I remembered correctly, she said yes when I once asked her, YMMV. Her looks and her tendency not to actively approach men can be intimidating. On the GASTEBUCH (Guestbook) page of the Palace website, some dudes gave Saskia, Mitsu, Natasha, Bee, and Nicoletta high praises. Assuming the posted comments were not manufactured by Palace management, their Guestbook page maybe another source of information about the girls at the club. Alas, most of the comments are in German.
West By Sun
08-25-09, 02:23
Yes, Palace is probably the only club in Germany where the extras have been defined through a pictogram card.
But in fact, the pictogram card is not useful to negotiate with girls who have their own rules.
This sounds like a cover up job. I like the proverbial FKK promise. I. E. Nekked. I. E "what yee see, is what yee get ". Never mind this cover up. If the gal is trying to hide something. Then I do not want to pay to see stretch marks, or whatever.
This is unfortunate. I have always liked Palace but now may avoid.
By the way, who gives out the sanctioned "FKK" rating.? I. E. If lady's are no longer walking around naked, then the FKK designation is to be dropped?
Caveat Emptor!
Strato.
We can all voice our objection and displeasure on the Gaste-Check (Guest Check) page of Palace's website. They are soliciting for our "criticism / thoughts / wishes / suggestions for Improvement". If you're Anglophonic, just click on the Union Jack symbol before you proceed.
Vito Corleone
08-25-09, 03:56
By the way. One Indian customer recently has been, trying to cheat the girls. Going to the room for 45 mins, the rules are that you must pay for full hour.
He went with Mitsu also for virtually the full hour, but only wanted to pay 50. Mitsu explained that it would be 100.
His reply "But I really like you" does not really help.
"But I really like you." That's a new one. What was Mitsu's response?
Indian guy cheating the girl - I think the opposite is true, particularly for Palace. Guys (Indian or not) get cheated by the girls all the time e.g. not enough time in the room, CBJ. etc. But judging from the reports, you don't necessarily have to be Indian to receive a bad session at the Palace.
"But I really like you." That's a new one. What was Mitsu's response?
Blimey! you running a complaint service for girls doing Indians? How did you manage to pickup this bit of chit chat? Happened right before you, did it?
By the way. One Indian customer recently has been, trying to cheat the girls. Going to the room for 45 mins, the rules are that you must pay for full hour.
Lifes ADream
08-30-09, 22:24
What can one say? It was a big disappointment. The place was virtually empty and what was there was lifeless, the showers were cold and so was the jacuzzi. They seem to pick their girls from a single mould: east european with straight shoulder-length blonde hair and with conversation skills limited to finding out if you want to go to a room with them. I eventually had a kino session with Angelica from Russia (short brown hair, one of the rare exceptions to the mould) who does a devilish BBBJ.
M P Lurker
08-31-09, 17:53
Blimey! you running a complaint service for girls doing Indians? How did you manage to pickup this bit of chit chat? Happened right before you, did it?I saw what I thought was same guy do it on two different occasions with girls I know to be very honest, and yes, right before my eyes, although didn't catch every single word of the conversations.
I only mention these things so that ISGers understand the rules at the Palace. Whether we agree with the rule or not, payment is for each 30 mins and a portion of 30 mins still costs same as full 30 mins. I don't like it either, but rules are rules. Just try to use each 30 mins as fully as possible.
Obviously there are bad girls that cheat customers, but not too many. This doesn't excuse customers, to cheat or try to get out of paying the full price either.
For all you FKK veterans out there, please skip to the section of this report called GIRLS. This report is intended for the FKK Newbie who is passing through Frankfurt with a few hours to kill and are looking to get a quick taste of the FKK. I guarantee it will bore you if you have been to Palace before. It has probably been a while since anyone has written a report on Palace from a first timer’s perspective so I thought I might do one in honor of my first experience.
As I reported in the General section, I was going to have a 7 hour layover in Frankfurt en-route to Budapest from the States so rather than sit in the Airline Lounge and swill whiskey I decided to check out what Frankfurt had to offer in terms of FKK. I looked on the Internet at both Palace and Oase as possibilities but decided that going to the Palace this time would be better just for ease of access and being my first time to Frankfurt. On a limited time budget, I didn’t really feel like going out to the country in search of Oase. But I should mention that there is an excellent video on You Tube that give step by step instruction on how to get to Oase from The Frankfurt Airport using public transit.
GETTING THERE
Navigating the airport and finding the train was quite easy. I made my way to the station purchased a ticket from the machine for 3.60 Euros and went down to track 1. In 10 minutes I was at Frankfurt Hft. (Central Terminal). I printed out a map to Palace on Konigsbergerstrasse thinking I would get a cab, but it was a gorgeous day and since I had been on a place all night I was ready to stretch my legs and walk. I found the Palace easily with the GPS on my Blackberry and the walk took me about 30 minutes as a brisk pace. My baggage was check all the way through to Budapest so I just had my cabin baggage. The one regret was that I did not leave my backpack at the train station in one of the lockers rather than drag it with me. BTW – the return taxi from Palace back to the train station was 10.15 Euro. For those of you wanting to try the surface tram, the Palace is right near the stop called “Industrial”.
THE FACILITIES
I arrived at Palace at about 11:30 AM and there was only one guy already there. The place was dead. I suppose I know what it was going to be like and I knew that it was not going to be ideal, but considering the time I guess I couldn’t complain. I arrived at the reception, paid my 75 Euros and got my locker key and my wrist band. As far as I can tell, the wristband is of little consequence except for the staff to tell who has paid and who has not. The locker key is two purposes. It opens and locks the locker in the change room (for your clothes) and it also opens and closes the small little lock box up front. Let me make the distinction between the lock box and the locker. The lock box is up front near the reception and across from the small bar. It is in full view of people coming and going and seems to be strategically located for the financial transactions between you and the girls. This is the place you can put your money. My suggestion that is that you put only your money in this lock box. By the way – the lock box is also handy to the little bar where you can now buy some limited alcoholic beverages. Although I cannot imagine why you would want to because it is probably the most expensive booze I have ever seen. I believe I saw that 50 grams (ML) of Johnny Walker Black label was 25 Euros so if you need any sedation you are best to get it before you arrive. I should say that the FKK bears some very striking similarities to the Termas of Rio de Janeiro, but the distinct discouragement of alcohol is not one of them.
The reception will give you a robe and as you walk into the locker room you can help yourself to a towel or two. Once in the locker room you can find the locker that corresponds to the number on your key. It comes with its own wrist band so that you don’t lose it. Inside the locker is a pair of flip-flop sandals, a couple of coat hangers and a small safe with a 3 digit combination that you can program. Perfect for passport, watch, jewelry, etc. Unfortunately, the locker is not huge with my carry-on bag from the plane it was a bit of a tight fit. The shower room is basic but comfortable. Being Monday morning it seemed to take forever to get the hot water going in the shower but I suppose that’s to be expected.
Once I took a rinse I proceeded to the lounge area. I wanted to take a shave since traveling all night but considering the cold water I thought “forget it”. I got into my robe and wandered into the main area. As you come out of the locker room there’s a small buffet set up. Being early there was a continental breakfast available with plenty of juice and coffee. As there were almost no girls hanging about I decided to grab an espresso and a croissant and see if I could find a newspaper. Since there were almost no other people there, it gave me an opportunity to look around. It really is a nice facility with a number of lounge rooms laid out in sort of a random arrangement in addition to the private rooms for sex. For the smokers there are also one or two rooms where you can light up. There is a large main room that is sort of the focus of the place. As you can imagine it was pretty much empty. The few guys that had been coming in were “perching” themselves in spots around the place and wandering off into dark corners where there were very comfortable couches with big soft cushions and throw pillows. It all reminded me a bit of a Harem (not like I’ve seen one) or a Pasha’s Palace.
THE GIRLS
I saw a sign that said Steam Sauna and decided that was exactly what I needed after the long flight. There is also a large dry sauna and a large pool that I think is a Jacuzzi in an elevated area just off the main hall. After a good steam I gave the shave another try back at the locker room and felt much better. I noticed that back by the steam sauna there was a quiet little reading lounge with a u-shaped couch and little reading lights so I went up to the reception, found a copy of the Wall Street Journal, grabbed another espresso and wander back hoping that the number of girls would increase. The few that I had seen up to that point were nothing spectacular. Like I said before, being Monday morning during summer I was going to be getting the “B Team” for sure. The Receptionist apologized in advance for the selection saying that a lot of girls were away for vacation that that things would pick up in another few weeks. Most of the girls had dark hair and appeared to be a little bit “soft”. Droopy breasts and round faces. I saw one very pretty Asian girl but she was already engaged in conversation with another guy. There was one bleach blond who seemed to have a decent body but had a real scowl on her face so I gave her a pass. There was also another large black girl from the Dominican Republic but she was not my type. I should also say at this moment that about half the girsl were wearing some sort of lingere and the other half were buck naked except for shoes and stockings. The ones with something to hide were covering it up and the girls with good bodies were showing it off….. just as it should be.
Armed with my coffee and paper I was heading back to the reading room when I passed a nice looking naked girl with Slavic features and dirty blond hair. She smiled as I passed and I turned to give her a second look. Nice little butt and small perky tits. Not saggy, but kind of small. Certainly fuckable that’s for sure.
I made myself comfortable and started reading. But it was not long before the Slavic blond came up and said hello. She rattled off something in German and I relied with the one of the only German phrases I know, “Ich fershtaya ein bisyen Deutche” (sorry for the spelling) and asked if she spoke English. She said that she only spoke a little English and that she was from Ukraine. What a bit of luck – I switched to Russian and we became fast pals. She asked if I wanted privacy to read or could she come and join me. If she did not speak any Russian I probably would have given her a pass as I could see that she was no “spring chicken” guessing that she must have been about 30 ‘ish. Her name was Natasha and is from Donetsk telling me that she is the only Ukrainian girl at Palace at this time. I was able to ask her some questions about the club and learned that the majority of the girls at this time seem to be from the Baltic States like Latvia and Estonia with a few Poles and Czechs as well plus the usual contingent of German and Austrian girls as well as a few exotics.
She asked if I wanted another espresso and maybe a glass of water and ran off to get them. A very pleasant girl who seemed eager to please. So far – so good. When she returned we chatted a little more and she started kissing me on the lips which gave way to some nice DFK. She positioned herself in such a way as to let me suck on her tits for a while which was really enjoyable for about 10 or 15 minutes. The place we were sitting was quite secluded viewable only from the entrance to the massage room which was not going to be open until 2:00 PM so we had a little privacy. She leaned over open my robe and started sucking my dick. Nothing too vigorous but very casual licking and teasing while I played with her pussy with my free hand. This must have gone on for another 15 minutes which surprised the hell out of me because I thought that these FKK clubs were all business and strictly on the clock (like everything else in Germany – ha, ha). After a while I started to feel like we needed to move the party to a room. I was full ready now and certainly did not want to embarrass myself on my first visit to an FKK. I asked how much and Natasha told me 50 Euro for 30 minutes plus extra. Considering the slim pickings I decided that an hour would be the best bet so off we went to a private room for more sucking and fucking. She gave a very nice deep throat BBBJ and was quite enthusiastic about trying all positions while we chatted the whole time in a funny mix of Russian and Ukrainian. Lots of laughs. I really enjoyed my time with Natasha especially considering the extra time up front. I don’t know if this is normal or not but I must say it was probably the most pleasant “interview” I have had in a very long time. She was a friendly and fun girl who seemed to be eager to give me a good first impression of Palace. She wandered back to the lockboxes where I took out a 100 Euro note as she gave me a very nice parting kiss and disappeared into the Girls Room.
After another steam and shower I went to the bar to get some water. Sitting down at the bar I certainly noticed that things were picking up. More and more talent was arriving and a beautiful girl with dark hair and features went behind the bar to help herself to a Fanta. She looked over and smiled showing me a beautiful set of teeth. She had a very tight body with small but very firm, round tits. She came over and introduced herself as Gulszha (I think) from Anatolia in Turkey. I would never have guessed her for a Turk but she was very pretty and really sexy. I glanced at her watch and saw that is was getting on 2:45 PM. I really wanted to be heading out by 3:00 PM (as I had a flight to Budapest at 4:50 PM) and toyed with the idea of another 30 minute quickie. But I hate being rushed and decided that there was not time for the interview I wanted to conduct plus the session so I gave it a pass. I’m not sure little Jake would have been able to keep up after the workout with Natasha either so I headed for the locker room to change.
When I came out there were even MORE beauties just arriving and I could see that my timing was bad. But hey, it was better spent than sitting at the airport. I collected my things, asked the lady at reception to call me a taxi and enjoyed once more espresso for the road. A quick taxi to the train station and back to the airport for a leisurely walk to my plane which had just started to board.
Total cost:
Train fare into Frankfurt – 3.70 Euro
Entrance to Palace – 75 Euro
Taxi to train station – 10.15 Euro
Train fare back to Airport – 3.70
One big FKK induced smile on my face and sleeping all the way on the flight to Budapest? – PRICELESS!!!!!!!!
She positioned herself in such a way as to let me sick on her tits for a while which was really enjoyable for about 10 or 15 minutes.Rare that I get a belly laugh on a Tuesday morning, but the graphic vision this astonishingly long eruption provoked did it for me for sure. Glad you enjoyed it so much. What a girl indeed! LOL.
Thanks for the great report.
Gentleman Travel
09-02-09, 14:56
One big FKK induced smile on my face and sleeping all the way on the flight to Budapest? – PRICELESS!!!!!!!!
Jake, you must have a great attitude if you can go to the
Palace on such a barren day and still come out smiling.
So imagine what it would be like on a good day!
Angus Magee
09-02-09, 17:06
For all you FKK veterans out there, please skip to the section of this report called GIRLS. This report is intended for the FKK Newbie who is passing through Frankfurt with a few hours to kill and are looking to get a quick taste of the FKK. I guarantee it will bore you if you have been to Palace before. It has probably been a while since anyone has written a report on Palace from a first timer’s perspective so I thought I might do one in honor of my first experience.
On the contrary, it is a good report for even the most experienced FKK monger to read. It is good to remember that FKK can be good to visit at off times on off days. The girls that are there at that time, while maybe not "A" list players are often a little more willing to please to get a session.
My last visit to Artemis was on a slightly off day and I had a great time.
Many thanks for the report.
AM
Ekliges Lauern
09-03-09, 00:39
For all you FKK veterans out there, please skip to the section of this report called GIRLS. This report is intended for the FKK Newbie who is passing through Frankfurt with a few hours to kill and are looking to get a quick taste of the FKK. I guarantee it will bore you if you have been to Palace before. It has probably been a while since anyone has written a report on Palace from a first timer’s perspective so I thought I might do one in honor of my first experience.
Jake,
Nice report. I think how good of time you have there depends on how you select the girls. Natasha is a nice choice. The only critique I would make is that you should have sessioned with Guelchen. You were on to something. Half an hour with her is worth risking missing your plane over.
Cheers,
EL
Hessen Bub
09-03-09, 08:53
that you should have sessioned with Guelchen.
Gülcan? That's the common spelling of that Turkish name. She coloured her hair from black to brown.
HB
I have a question!
I had such a great time on my first FKK trip to World and Oase I want to go again. ( Naturally)
I was thinking about going over 30th Dec- 2 Jan.
Although I have never been to Palace I still have a preference to visit World again. Sadly they close on NYE and there is not much happening around that area ( within a 10E cab ride ) to warrant a full stay up that way for 3 days that I know of. ( When I was there in July it was my only reason for being in the area and I loved laying outside looking at girls bouncing up and down in the garden! but its NYE, bit sad to be up that way with World closed for the nite and nothing else going on )
But, The Palace is easy to visit in Frankfurt. However, I really dont know what to expect at that time of year, although Palace is open on NYE just what talent will be there?
Maybe its best to check in there on 30th? Give it a miss on NYE and hit it again on 1-2 Jan? I dont think I have spent a NYE sober! and at Palace prices I think I would be!
Maybe its better to give it a miss all together and head back to World in spring?
So, what do you guys think?
Ekliges Lauern
09-04-09, 01:07
I have a question!
I had such a great time on my first FKK trip to World and Oase I want to go again. ( Naturally)
I was thinking about going over 30th Dec- 2 Jan.
Although I have never been to Palace I still have a preference to visit World again. Sadly they close on NYE and there is not much happening around that area ( within a 10E cab ride ) to warrant a full stay up that way for 3 days that I know of. ( When I was there in July it was my only reason for being in the area and I loved laying outside looking at girls bouncing up and down in the garden! but its NYE, bit sad to be up that way with World closed for the nite and nothing else going on )
But, The Palace is easy to visit in Frankfurt. However, I really dont know what to expect at that time of year, although Palace is open on NYE just what talent will be there?
Maybe its best to check in there on 30th? Give it a miss on NYE and hit it again on 1-2 Jan? I dont think I have spent a NYE sober! and at Palace prices I think I would be!
Maybe its better to give it a miss all together and head back to World in spring?
So, what do you guys think?
I've done year end visits for a few years running so can give some insight. Usually my runs are from the 27th-30th. Lineups are very minimal during this week getting thinner as the 30th approaches. My business comes to a stand still that week, so I go because it is an opportunity to get away.
New Years Eve is a major holiday in Germany and almost all FKKs are closed. Any that are open, well, I would be very suspicious of the quality of the lineup. What I have done on New Years Eve is visit one of the Asian houses in NRW, but those are pretty much one pop and go. The last year I decided to fly home on New Years Eve rather than New Years day.
Bottom line, for me the 27th-30th is worth it even knowning the lineups will be meager. I would not do the 30th-2nd myself.
Buffet 326
09-04-09, 01:17
So I just got done with a night at the Palace. It isn't what it was. The upsell is in full effect.
The italian. Decent oral but kept wanting me to stick it in her butt or jizz in her mouth. Starting working me over in the kino.
Said nope, she lost her enthusiasm.
The japanese. Boys you were right. She was the best. Mitzku or something. Didn't try and upsell decent oral and tight little body.
The blonde Czech. Not worth the time. Bolt ons and just enough head to count then wanted to get started and really put me off my game.
The Russian. Decent service, good head, just not long enough. Mild upsell.
The kino.
In the states it would be called sexual assault what these 2 romanians tried to do to me. They wanted to do the triangle thing. I didn't want to. They got all huffy.
A thick blonde spanish chick came talked to me and left after I feigned needing recharge.
A second Romanian came by start fondling me before I could let on that know I wasn't interested.
All in all not a bad little get away if you can deal with the constant upsell.
I'm tempted to hit the oase instead tommrrow but not sure when the trains close and taxis are expensive from oase to the hotel.
The last time I was here the quality of the eyecandy was the same. Several stunners both times. But that first trip her the upsell was not so in your face. The fact that 3 out of four lost some level of enthusiasm is also worth note.
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Buffet 326
09-04-09, 17:19
During the day the upsell is not nearly as bad.
Had a blonde italian from bari. Good service. Perfect body, good face looked like 30+
Had an excellent time with a Russian. Tall dirty blonde decent english
Really wish the blonde with the glasses behind the bar did some work. Almost went with a pole named emma. Wish I had.
This is important. Avoid Pamela from brazil. The little **** scammed me out of 50 euro.
Said we did an hour when we only in the room for 25 mins.
I went to the front desk told the lady, "You need to have a word with that brazillian." Told her the situation and said. "I have 500 euro in my pocket if your gonna employ girls like that I'm taking my ass to oase." Turned and walked out. Two of the girls at the buffett heard me and didn't look happy.
I only had 200 but if your gonna be an obnoxious american you have to play the part.
I've done year end visits for a few years running so can give some insight. Usually my runs are from the 27th-30th. Lineups are very minimal during this week getting thinner as the 30th approaches. My business comes to a stand still that week, so I go because it is an opportunity to get away.
New Years Eve is a major holiday in Germany and almost all FKKs are closed. Any that are open, well, I would be very suspicious of the quality of the lineup. What I have done on New Years Eve is visit one of the Asian houses in NRW, but those are pretty much one pop and go. The last year I decided to fly home on New Years Eve rather than New Years day.
Bottom line, for me the 27th-30th is worth it even knowning the lineups will be meager. I would not do the 30th-2nd myself.Thanks Ekliges, Much appreciate the feed back.
Ya, I think its prob best if I leave it till next spring summer then I can hit World with a passion!
Mate says Algarve sposed to be ok so may look at that.
Cheers Bud.
The Palace is not a huge club like some of the other FKKs outside of the city, but large enough. Smoking is limited to a couple enclosed areas, the buffet is great I was there around 6PM and girls and customers were lining up.
It seemed to me much more upscale than World & Oase, very convenient if you have a few hours to kill at the Frankfurt airport as it is really near, maybe 15 minutes or less.
I had a half Brazilian and half Colombian girl, perhaps her name was Pamela and perhaps she is the same as in the previous report (petite, blonde, big boobs, very pretty and constantly massaging herself with cream), except she was fantastic. I could not finish due to exhaution from the other clubs I went to the same day and she tried just about everything. Excellent BBBJ, MPOS, DFK, Greek was offered for an extra 100 but in my condition that was pretty much out of the question. I wished I could have done more with her but I had just reached my limit that day.
I would return if I was in Frankfurt and did not have a car to drive to FKK World, which was y favorite and has way more choice.
M P Lurker
09-07-09, 16:42
The japanese. Boys you were right. She was the best. Mitzku or something. Didn't try and upsell decent oral and tight little body.Of course we were right. Mitsu is one of the superb girls.
Something to indicate what Mitsu looks like. A video of a similar looking Japanese porn star:
http://www.tube8.com/asian/japanese-erotic-babe-internal/129145/
http://www.tube8.com/asian/nanami-takase-erotic/170999/
Lookoflove7
09-07-09, 23:20
Being in Frankfurt on Friday for a business meeting, I took my all week-end to spend some time at the Palace again.
Arrived by 12:00 at the Palace. Very quiet, just the beginning of the fkk-day. Not in a hurry, sat by the bar at the entrance to drink one or two coffee. Watching the girls and the punters coming in and out. 10 mn later, Gina (blond Czech girl with a smiley face and much more.) went out of the ladies room and immediately recognized me at the bar. "Hey babe! ". "Hey Gina, remember me? ". "Yes of course, you're the sex machine and your cock is hard like a stone". How can you resist?
Took our time to chat (haven't seen her for some weeks). As expected the business was very calm in August so she made several trip back to her country to see her family. For the "good" girls the business is "just ok" while for the other girls it seems to be very hard these days.
She is one of my favorite, so there was no doubt about what we could do with each other then. "Let's go to our lucky room baby". "Whatever you want". Like her perfume, "Hypnose" from Lancome. Very sweet. Mutual anatomy discussion before she did what she is best for: taking care of my cock. Love fucking her from behind in front of the mirror. She is hot when she wants it to. Just like in paradise. "Give me your milk". Finished and took everything in her mouth. "Are you ok baby? ". "Huumm, hum! ? ! ". Couldn't speak indeed. Chat about all our previous sessions. Did not agree on the same number of sessions and the first time finishing. But it was just the beginning of the day and hard work was waiting for both of us. See her again all the day.
Gina is a hard worker and do not take some much time between session. She starts her journey by 12:00 pm and finished by 01:00 or 02:00 am everyday (including Sunday). Only 22 years old and much more courage than anyone of us. "Work hard, Play hard", I dedicated this song written by Will Odlham (aka Palace or Bonnie Prince Billy) to her.
Chat with my other "habituées": Nicolleta (pretend to be Italian girl but maybe Romanian). Promise to see her. Then Mitsui (Japanese girl but surely Korean), still in a good shape. Had a very "catty" make up that day. Very busy day for her. She is a good girl and people seem to appreciate that (I did). Chat with a Spanish girl which I would see later.
Then it was the turn of Bee (Thai girl). There are 3 to 4 Thai girls running at the Palace, but Bee is the most active because the most beautiful one. We had sex as before: sensual and softy. Took my time to admire her tattoo especially when fucking her from behind. She does not speak so much but uses her tongue for something else. My cock always appreciates. She was all summer in Frankfurt and shall go back in Thailand by December. She is a very pleasant girl whatever you session with her or not. Only work on the day. And she is very busy and successful.
Took a break and went to the Frankfurt for my meeting. Came back by 07:00 pm.
Sat by a table just in front of my Spanish girl who was finishing her dinner. "Hola Carmen! ". "How was your meeting? ". "Boring". Big laugh. "How is the food? ". "Not as good as 'mi madre' cooking, but I haven't finished yet. Quiero mi postrero". "Qué? ". "No hablas español para mucho tiempo.". "Si tu entiendes". "Tu es mi postrero". (A desert.). "Que pienso mi amor? ".
Not really my type, but when it comes the time to be eaten, you cannot postponed it. Went to my favorite room. Didn't ask and talk about any price or services, which is always a good sign. Start immediately on the bed by licking and sucking me like I was a chocolate or a ice-cream. Waouh, she was hungry. "Te gusta el postrero? ". "Si, si". I fuck her from behind like I like too watching me and her on the mirror. She didn't stop screaming "Si mi amor, si." all the time. How can you resist? I did not and finished between her legs. "Me gusta mucho esta moment". "Mi tanbien mi amor, muchas gracias".
Had a massage and relax myself at the sauna.
Then I saw her. Hannah, from Poland, look like the girl next door you wouldn't be afraid of asking her for a coffee. But what a girl in bed. She turned me like a beast as I never did. Fuck and move to all the position on the bed, the chair, the floor. If there should have been more we would had done on it. Spend an hour with her fucking like running a 400 meters. Didn't refuse anything and mostly wanting to try everything. Haven't finished the Kamasutra but at a time we may move to a position undescribed yet. Anyway, like I said, she turned me like a beast which please but also surprised me. Not sure to felt like that before. So great that I wanted to repeat again on the next day.
Hannah does not speak very well English and neither German. She occasionally works at the Palace when she is not baby sitting her sister two daughters. She mostly works at night. She has a very nice face, small tits, beautiful butt and thin body. She is the perfect girl next door. Can not wait to see her again with maybe some new ideas.
(To be continued, I wait back at the Palace on Saturday and at Oase on Sunday).
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M P Lurker
09-08-09, 15:55
Then it was the turn of Bee (Thai girl). There are 3 to 4 Thai girls running at the Palace, but Bee is the most active because the most beautiful one. Actually there are at least 6 fairly regular Thai girls (mostly not using real Thai names):
Bee (tats queen)
Nina (cute - small tits)
Dee-Dee (recent breast enhance)
Bpoom! (cute - small tits)
Kim/Joy (Bolt ons)
Nikki
And Lucky and one other on rare occasions.
Bee is indeed the most popular (many regulars) due to curves and personality.
Lookoflove7
09-08-09, 22:53
On Saturday after a footing in the street of quiet Frankfurt and some fitness exercises, I went back at the Palace by 11:00 am. At this time of the day, the place was very quiet 10 to 12 girls. None of them catch up my eyes except Nicolleta which I already sessioned with.
Always lying and waiting by the Jacuzzi. Wave a big hello when sawing me entering the main room. Move toward her and sat by the sofa to start chatting. She was glad I respect my yesterday promise to come with her again. At this time of the day, she would be a good start and anyway she is a nice girl. I remember her being very helpful and kind when I first came at the Palace. She obviously deserves my fully respect. Went to a wonderful room with fake but very nice candlestick. This is something that I really appreciate at the Palace: the room are very well furnished, clean and pleasant.
I enjoy this session with Nicoletta. Her blowjob skills are excellent. She has a very thin and small tits. She is quite athletic which is perfect for moving to different kind of position. I finished in her mouth and was really pleased by her willingness. She provides a very good service and I like her.
Went back to the bar at the entrance for some cup of coffee. Then once again my dear one appeared... “Hey babe!” “Hey Gina!”. “You were waiting for me?”. Smile. “Good boy!!!”. Big laugh. “Nice jacket you got, I like it”. “Thank you my dear, I love it too”. She definitely got some style and some good taste. I already saw her dressed before and I can assure you she is good looking girl. “Wait for me I’ll be back (undressed) in 30 mn”. “No problem Gina, I’m here”.
We lunched together and continue chatting about chocolate… It seems that we did not have the same point of view about chocolate which made me promise to bring her real and therefore good chocolate on my next trip to the Palace. I live in Paris, I know what I am talking about. “I’ll bring you the best one!”. Her face turned into delightfulness. “Let’s go to our room, baby”.
As always, she did what she best for and I give her all I had. Gina knows my cock on every inch. She is the number one. No much more to say. We appreciate each other and it make thing greater and better. See her all day until the end.
Had another coffee to calm down and relax. Hesitate between having a break outside or continue for the 3rd session. When I saw two gorgeous blond girls coming out from the ladies room… I had to stay for a third session at least!
I catch the first one at the enter of the kino. Cindy from Poland. Wonderful body, incredible (but fake) tits, irresistible face and smile that made you really happy being here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what a girl. “What’s up baby?”. “I’m fine… and so hot”. “I can see”. Couldn’t wait and went to the closest room available.
Wouah, she was really hot! Kiss and lick her body all time. Did the sex machine as always. Feel great and could continue for hour. I wanted to finish on her beautiful face and surprised her. She didn’t expect two loads… She caught the first one with no hesitation and though I had finished when the second load came and spread all over her eyes and nose… She didn’t expect so much! “Are you ok baby?”. “I thought you were finished…”. Need a shower. Smile.
Cindy used to work in Berlin but come from time to time in Frankfurt for a couple of days for working. She came with her sister, Clara (the other girl). And expect to make as much money during that trip. I saw her with many men on Saturday night. She knows what she wants. Always smile to me when we crossed each other.
Took a break outside and came back by 06:00pm.
Noticed a girl this afternoon and wanted to session with her. Monica from Venezuela. Black hair, look like an actress from the eighties. Nice but fake tits (Lichelle Marie type). Great body. She was wearing black panties and her ass was so fuckable!!! You could see on her ass the sun skin of her string. So sexy. Wanted her definitely.
“Her baby, what are you doing?”. “Maybe I was waiting for you”. “Hablas espanol ?”. “Si un pequito”. She is from Venezuala but live in Spain (Astoria) where she does the same job. She comes in Frankfurt from time to time to raise more money.
“Vamos a la casa”. “Si senor”. Well what we did was what i wanted : fuck her ass! And I enjoy it as never. She is not so young (+30) but have much more energy than any twenties year old girls. Feel her coming being on top of her. Such a great sensation seing her face turning to that sensation. Feel on top. She likes to fuck and I like sex so we were both please. “Tu es muy guapo, me gusta tu cuerpo”. “Muchas gracias”. She knows how to talk to you (but in Spanish as her English is not so good). I’ll come back for her definitely. And what an ass…
Then I catch the second Polish girl, Clara (Cindy’s sister). More beautiful than her sister from my point of view. Went to a room immediately. “Been with your sister this afternoon”. “Yes I know”. She works as a nurse in Poland and come for one week to see her sister and make some money. Her poor English (and German) doesn’t enable her to work here as a nurse. Can’t wait to be cure by her… “I’ll be your patient…”. Smile. “Kiss me baby”. “Whatever you want”.
Such an angel. She makes love to you and that her big thing. I make her come softly. So irresistible and sweet. Take it slowly and linger the sensation. Well you should have heard her… Like making love to your girlfriend. I would marry her definitely.
We continue chatting and make her a massage on her back to relax her. She has such a great body. Touching and massing her like that was even more enjoyable. We took time to socialize more and to know each other. Like Gina, she noticed the same thing about my cock. What can you say?
“I am your 5th session of the day?!? You should go home now and rest. You cannot do more”. “Yes, doctor”. Kiss and smile.
Indeed it was a long day and I needed some rest… until I was approached by a fucking big tits and bitchy girl : Roxanna from Slovenia. My head said no but my cock said yes… So I went again to a room with her. But I didn’t regret.
Such a *****! I fucked and slammed every parts of the ass like in a dirty porno movie. I did again the sex machine which made her screamed “you are crazy baby!!!!”. So dirty. I took her head and introduced hardly my cock in her mouth, fuck her like that for several minutes until I come. I make her swallow everything. She was pleased and I was fucking feeling great. A real Porn Star Experience.
Now I was on my knees… and as the doctor said, need some rest.
Kiss and say goodbye to Gina. “Come back for me baby”. “I will”.
Wave a big goodbye to Clara (sitting over the bar). Smile on her face.
NB: I didn’t see Lina those two days. According to her friend, she doesn’t work so much these day. End of the story? “I don’t know”.
The next day I went to the Oase.
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Of course we were right. Mitsu is one of the superb girls.
Something to indicate what Mitsu looks like. A video of a similar looking Japanese porn star:
http://www.tube8.com/asian/japanese-erotic-babe-internal/129145/
http://www.tube8.com/asian/nanami-takase-erotic/170999/Bloody hell. Thats fantastic! Is Mitsu new around Palace? The last time I was there in October 2008, I didn't notice her. But there was a super petite Asian girl who I did session with. She always walked around wearing a super short miniskirt. I think she said she was Chinese mixed with something else. Ripped me off too!
Another vote for Bee. She's hard to miss with her tattoos. Good personality, and a great session. She gets very busy, so if you catch her, make sure to take advantage of it!
My only regret is that I didnt get to go with her again.
M P Lurker
09-10-09, 15:33
Bloody hell. Thats fantastic! Is Mitsu new around Palace? The last time I was there in October 2008, I didn't notice her. But there was a super petite Asian girl who I did session with. She always walked around wearing a super short miniskirt. I think she said she was Chinese mixed with something else. Ripped me off too!Mitsu is not super petite. No idea who the Chinese one would be as there have not been any Chinese girls recently to my knowledge.
Mitsu has been at Palace just a few months but already reached the superstar class. Some claim that she may be Korean, but there seems to be absolutely no evidence for such wild speculation. Mitsu looks Japanese to my eye, seems to have a Japanese accent, and speaks fluent Japanese, plus German and English with no hint of being able to understand Korean language. So its really silly to say Korean in my opinion. However while Mitsu is not her real name she claims an ancestor had that name.
Mitsu also works as a high priced escort part time. Its far better to see her at the Palace (for price).
I can also vouch for the these Thai girls all being good although not all do anal and CIM:
Bee, Nina, Dee-Dee, Bpoom.
I have ignored the other Thai girls and one of them was too aggressive for my liking.
I read on a German board that just today they opened a new room in Palace which is designated "Restaurant." The posts seemed to describe a "sterile" environment that was a new Eating Area in the facility. Does anybody know more? For example, where in Palace is this new area situated? It would be interesting to learn of anybody's first-hand observations.
Thanks,
Ortos
Mitsu is not super petite. No idea who the Chinese one would be as there have not been any Chinese girls recently to my knowledge.
Mitsu has been at Palace just a few months but already reached the superstar class. Some claim that she may be Korean, but there seems to be absolutely no evidence for such wild speculation. Mitsu looks Japanese to my eye, seems to have a Japanese accent, and speaks fluent Japanese, plus German and English with no hint of being able to understand Korean language. So its really silly to say Korean in my opinion. However while Mitsu is not her real name she claims an ancestor had that name.
Mitsu also works as a high priced escort part time. Its far better to see her at the Palace (for price).
I can also vouch for the these Thai girls all being good although not all do anal and CIM:
Bee, Nina, Dee-Dee, Bpoom.
I have ignored the other Thai girls and one of them was too aggressive for my liking.Thanks for the clarification Cim Krickle. i am seriously considering making a one night stop at Palace to check her out. Is she a regular? I'll make sure to search the board for info as well.
West By Sun
09-11-09, 03:08
Mitsu is not super petite. No idea who the Chinese one would be as there have not been any Chinese girls recently to my knowledge.
The super petite girl seems to be our another super star Tan, half vientnamese half chinese.
Mitsu looks like a Japanese girl, although she is a typical Korean working girl with surgically reincarnated face.
It is a little surprising to know that the current korean President Monsieur XX (I cannnot recall his correct name) was born in Osaka, Japan, too.
WBS
M P Lurker
09-11-09, 12:42
It was once said, perhaps by me, that FKK clubs do not have any lady boys, as it would not be accepted.
I now realise that this statement was silly. Obviously transexuals with dicks would not be popular., but post-op lady boys can be very pretty (prettier than some of the girls) and possibly not detectable by the FKK staff.
Advanced gender tests to prove gender would not be practical.
While the forum bans promotion of ladyboys, I am discussing them mainly from an avoidance point of view.
Some of us (including myself), have pschological issues with having sexual experiences with someone who was once a man.
It seems that in the past, there was once a ladyboy (with no dick) working at the Palace but didn't last long due to fights with other girls.
Before readers over react to this issue, please bear in mind that Germany is a very liberal country where personal freedoms are highly valued. Some guys are willing to experience a top BJ from a pretty girl no matter what the original official gender was.
I am slightly curious. I have felt the tits of a ladyboy before (in Thailand) and was amazed to find that some have magnificent hormone induced breasts without silicone.
That's the limit of my experience. I don't want sex but I would like to see how realistically the plastic surgeons can contruct an artificial pussy.
There may be such an opportunity.
There is a rumour that a LB turned up to work at the Palace very recently. So be careful of asian girls, unless their names are:
Mitsu, Bee, Nina, Dee-dee, Boom, Kim/Joy, Nikki, Lucky.
Unfortunately I don't know the name of the rumoured LB.
Potentially the LB could be popular, but I have no idea why. I'm into real genuine pussy, myself.
If any of you should meet a LB, please be polite. They were born with a brain orientation to be a woman, so there is no point in berrating them or causing problems.
I feel sorry for those mentally-girls unlucky enough not to be born with the right beautiful female body.
As always, politely ignore the "girls" that you don't like, and focus on the the ones that you are hot for!
P. S. There has been lots of discussion in forums about how to recognise LBs. In the end, there are signs, but nothing is 100% certain, so if in any doubt, simply stay away.
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Hessen Bub
09-12-09, 08:35
Why stay away? I had numerous fucks with post-op ladyboys (Katoeys), they can be very pretty. And yes, majority is Asian, but there's also LBs from other parts of the World. Jenny (Thai) from Düsseldorf used to work Atlantis and Palace years ago, and she (he) was a good session. Right now there's no Asian post-op LB at Palace. And there's quite a lot of signs, like height, size of feet and hands, adams apple, behaviour, voice, face, plastic tits.
HB
Asia Tourist
09-12-09, 14:46
first, i want to thank everyone for all the great information on this board. i couldn't have had such a successful trip without all the contributions on this board, so i figured i'd try and reciprocate since i've been somewhat a lurker the past few months. second, this review is definitely from the newbie's perspective. i am by no means an expert and just want to share some of my experiences as a solo traveler in the frankfurt area.
getting from the airport to frankfurt
easy, just like everyone mentioned. s8/s9 up to the main train station. cost was 3.70€. one quick thing. definitely look up on google maps where your hotel is. i was dumb and could have gotten closer to my hotel instead of getting off at the frankfurt hautbahnhof train station (your hotel might be on the s8/s9 line, or another one close.)
first stop: fkk palace
the great thing about fkk palace is it's inside the city and very easy to find. as it's been mentioned countless times before, just look it up in google maps, take a cab, or take the you-bahn to industrihof. from the you-bahn stop it's a short 5-minute walk to the entrance (there's a huge sign so it's almost impossible to miss it provided you find the street.)
entrance fee was 75€, 10€ more than other spots, but the facilities were clean, modern, and in good shape. my strategy was to go there around 17:00, have a couple of sessions with the "fresh" girls arriving for the evening shift, eat something when they brought out the buffet, and then have a few more sessions until either i killed myself or ran out of money.
i was shocked at the lineup, meaning i would have fucked every single girl i saw when i first got there. okay, i'm not a complete tosser and do have some minimal standards, but i'm saying that all the girls were pretty, some beautifully so, and i was genuinely excited at the prospects (this was a wednesday afternoon/evening). after a quick shower and a look around (it was pretty dead, only about 8-12 guys and about 15-20 girls i think? ) i went to the bar and started chatting up two blondes. i thought they were ukrainian/russian but they were actually polish, and they were delicious. they suggested a 2-on-1 since i guess the economic crisis is still affecting business, but i like 1-on-1 sessions better. here are the summaries, everything was just plain jane bbbj and fs, nothing fancy as i'm pretty boring:
session 1, emma, polish, 22 years old, 5-6ish, petite blonde: first girl i saw at the bar (with her friend but she's better looking) and grabbed her immediately, within 10 minutes of sitting down. looking back, my big mistake was not finishing in her mouth, because emma gave one of the best blowjobs i've ever had and was very enthusiastic. she was so beautiful and cheery i couldn't help but go for some daty and i really wanted to fuck her (could barely control myself and blasted her mish, there was come everywhere, pretty nasty). but looking back, i should have enjoyed the bbbj and blew it in her mouth. so if you're into this and find a girl that gives a stunning blowjob, definitely consider keeping her and pay the extra 50€ because i didn't find as good a bbbj in all my other sessions. but look, i can't complain and she was a super first session. the only tiny downside was emma didn't speak much english so we couldn't connect on that basis, but this was not a big deal at all.
session 2, melissa, german, 24 years old, 5-8ish, athletic blonde: second girl spoke very good english and was just so beautiful. i can't describe it. she was statuesque, looked great in her bikini/lingerie and heels, and had a beautiful face and chest. plus, you don't find too many germans (at least i don't), so i was happy to pounce on this one while i could. once in the room, it became very clear melissa was all about business. do you want an hour? pay me 100€, do this, pay me more, etc. i guess the best way to describe this was melissa was the hottest girl in high school, knew she was, and had the attitude to match. many of you guys may be turned off by this – and i initially was as well – but the important thing was i went out of my way not to let it bother me. when she was "all you want is suck and fuck? " it made me kinda crack up because here i am, lying on my sorry ass, and i have this smokin' chick giving me a great bbbj and then i get to fuck her afterwards! so what if she's not all lovey-dovey and gfeish. i'll just use her for a great time, and i did. melissa gave a pretty good bbbj (recommendation: definitely tell them to keep going when they want to put on the condom and finish you off), fucked her mish – almost came just looking at her stunning face – but switched it around and finally couldn't control myself doggie style. my big lesson here for myself was to have a good time. we're going to find all sorts of girls, some more professional, some more gfe, so it's important to make the best out of whatever situation you find yourself in.
at this point the buffet came out and it was like a mad stampede of starving, malnourished children running for the food. pretty funny actually. after the "runners" got their first round, i tried out the buffet (there was plenty, and i mean plenty of food left). overall it was okay, but c'mon, this won't be a michelin star meal or anything. we had standard rice, pork, some chicken, some soggy vegetables, etc. the great thing about the buffet is: (a) it offsets some of the entrance fee because you eat a meal, (b) it's generic, i mean, c'mon it's not that bad, and (c) it's a good break in the action. the girls are eating too so you don't get the sharks coming after you constantly saying "let's go to room baby."
session 3, forgot name, romanian, 22 years old, petite brunette: another gorgeous girl, but this time a brunette. i thought she was from hungary but was from romania instead. at first i was a bit apprehensive because i remember reading some mixed reviews of romanian chicks, but i thought what the hell, let's go. she had a great body, perky little tits, a pretty beautiful face (not as stunning as melissa the german but still pretty good), but i forgot her name, sorry. overall a good session. no specifics but i left with a smile on my face. i also realize that three is pretty much my maximum number of sessions. to be honest, i'm a bit disappointed with myself because i thought i could do more, but i must be getting old or fat or whatever because i felt like i was going to die (i. e. dick fall off) after the third session so i left to take a break, plus i was still a bit jet-lagged.
summary:
damage: 0€ transport (walked) + 75€ entrance + 3 session at 60€ each (i tipped) = 255€
sessions: 3 (two blondes, one brunette. polish, german, romanian chicks. i like mixing it up)
my realizations: (a) if you find a chick who gives a great bbbj, definitely keep her and consider blowing a load in her mouth, (b) you can have a good outcome from a dodgy session/chick, good attitude helps, (c) be aggressive grabbing girls. even if it looks pretty dead (it was), i never saw emma's friend again for example for the rest of the night and i was planning to fuck her.
second stop, next day: fkk oase
i considered going back to palace since i had such a good time the night before, but fuck it, i wanted to see one of the "legendary" clubs outside the city. it was a toss-up between oase and world but i went with oase because it was closer. thanks again to everyone for all the great info.
getting there by public transport summary: there's a lot of great info on this board, but here's a summary and how i did it. got on the s5 at frankfurt hautbahnhof (track 104). buy your ticket before you head down to the track because there are no ticket machines on the trick (go figure, sometimes there are, sometimes there aren't. i was so excited to go i just raced down to 104 only to go all the way back up like some idiot tourist). the destination for friedrichsdorf is 5125, cost 3.70€ and bound to go up in 2010, routing through bad humburg. we got to friedrichsdorf in about 30 minutes and originally i was planning on taking the hlb to burgholzhausen v dh, not to be cheap to avoid the cab fare but more to check things out and i like walking. but the hlb schedule was confusing (destination wasn't listed, wasn't sure what track, etc.) and i was too impatient anyways. the cab drivers were lined up and knew exactly what was going on. haha, they can totally spot who's dodgy and looking for action and headed to fkk, so i just went with a cab and paid the 10€ and go there in a jiffy.
okay, this isn't to compare oase with palace or to get flamed, but naturally my first thoughts were comparing the two because i had never been to either one and was just at palace the night before. oase is definitely bigger and more ornate, but the facilities are not as modern or "upkept" as palace. don't get me wrong. neither is a dump and the facilities are both great. this is just a relative comparison. there are definitely many more women at oase, probably 3x as many? , but the overall quality just wasn't as good. maybe this is just the law of large numbers. but while i would fuck every girl i saw at palace the night before, there were some unpassable hags walking around oase. i mean old, flabby, and just not attractive. well, maybe if they played up their strengths (personality? face? whatever? ), but some of these girls should not have been walking around in thongs with 5-inch platform shoes. it just wasn't a good look for them. but anyways, no complaints as there were plenty of women (and it seemed fairly busy with about 25 guys running around? ), time for business.
my strategy was the same as the night before. get there around 17:00, have a couple of sessions, check out the buffet, have a few more sessions if possible.
session 1. forgot name. romanian, 21 years old, 5-4ish, petite dirty blonde: this girl caught by eye because she as relatively small, had just a beautiful face with dirty blonde/super light brown hair. but the catch was she was wearing a fluorescent bikini which just glowed under the blacklights in the main room. her english wasn't that great, and the funniest thing was as soon as we got into the room, she strips, lies down, shoves her shaven pussy right up to my face, and asks "you like? " there was something very dirty about this girl! (she asked for anal, but i declined. not really into that. i thought about daty but decided against it. haha, she definitely was dirty and i didn't want to risk catching something, but this turned me on.) when we started going, she literally turns into a rag doll. same thing, at first i was a bit peeved (i. e. melissa at palace the night before), but the decide to make the best of it. so i shove my cock in her mouth, then start fucking her, flip her around, fuck her some more, etc. it was awesome just looking at her beautiful face even though there was so moaning, very little reaction. just her facial expression with her mouth slightly open. she couldn't help but react when i'd pump her, so this really turned me on, esp. doggy because oase had great mirrors set up so you can look straight at her from behind. so despite the rag doll effect, i actually really enjoyed this session. and when i gave her my standard 10€ tip, she seemed genuinely grateful and happy. sweet girl, perhaps a bit inexperienced in the fkk front.
session 2. stella. german-born italian. 23 years olds. 5-6ish, blonde: she approached me in the main room and immediately we clicked (good enligh). stella is outstanding and was the most professional of all the girls. professional meaning a world-class experienced hooker. she was ordering me around, blew me in three different positions ("okay stand up! ", "lie down now.", "you can lick my pussy", etc.) she seemed very experienced and enjoyed what she was doing. at this point, i must confess, but i couldn't freakin' finish. i mean, she had pretty good bbbj technique, i banged her mish, her on top, cowgirl, doggie, etc. but i just couldn't come. normally this would be a good thing because you can just keep going and playing, but i was freakin' exhausted at the end of 30 mins. she wasn't a clock watcher and didn't say we needed to go, but i literally couldn't continue. i am such a pussy. anyways, overall this was an outstanding session because stella was very service-oriented and experienced. i don't know if i could have this type of girl each time (i would die), but she's a good mix after you've had a more inexperienced girl.
at this point i have something to eat. it's retarded the buffet is not self serve, but i guess the place runs some quotas or something because the girls all had to have "coupons" in order to eat so it wasn't a free for all. service was slow, the food wasn't as good as palace but whatever, it did its job.
session 3. forgot name, dammit. polish, 25 years old, 5-7, brunette: damn, forgot her name because she had a beautiful face, good english. said she has worked at oase for about 2 years but works infrequently, mainly when she needs money. haha, didn't ask about her day job and just went at it. overall a very good session because she smelled great, was a little bit older which definitely showed in a good way (maturity, skill/experience, etc.), and had just a beautiful face. my balls ached after this girl and i decided it was time to pack it in. couldn't do another session or my dick would fall off.
getting back was easy as there were 4-5 cabs waiting outside oase. cab fare back was exactly the same (8.70€ on the meter but just paid the guy 10€), trains back to frankfurt run on the: 08 and: 38s with the last trains departing at 22:08 and 22:38. i don't know if this was standard, but the s5 train back ran considerably slower, mainly because it seemed to stop a lot longer at each station along the way. so don't plan on it getting back to hautbahnhof in the same 27 or so minutes it too to get up during the day.
summary:
damage: 3.70€ train x 2 each way + 10€ cab x 2 each way + 65€ entrance + 3 session at 60€ each (i tipped) = 272.40€
sessions: 3 (two blondes, one brunette. romanian, italian, polish)
my realizations: (a) again, be aggressive grabbing girls. i was considering grabbing stella for round two given my shortcomings but she was quite busy the remainder of the night, (b) girls were more aggressive here trying to grab you into rooms, which was a bit annoying because it's usually the ugly fatter chicks approaching you. i found the jacuzzi was a great place to relax where most people wouldn't bother you, plus you got good looks at the girls walking by to the sauna/pool outside.
overall this was a great trip and i enjoyed it very much! thanks again for all the info, and i hope some newbies find some of my experiences helpful. you freakin' german have it good. fkk is probably the greatest mongering experience in the world, better than montreal, thailand, vegas, macau, london, anywhere i've been!
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Marine One
09-13-09, 02:53
On a business trip to Germany a while ago, I made sure to arrange a weekend "lay over" in Frankfurt. I was very horned up.
On arriving, I could see that the contractors and interior designers who built the Palace deserve a gold star. It's so clean you could eat off the floor, there's beautiful mahogany paneling, a reading room, pool, and a separate smoking area.
However, the manager who oversees the hiring of SPs for the place deserves a lump of coal. Some mongers recently reported hot babes in this place, but when I was there a while ago only about 35% of the girls in there were do-able. Many were noticeably overweight, some tattooed from head to toe and looked like they had just escaped from a biker gang, and at least one SP looked like she might have been the grandmother of the owner of the very first FKK ever to open in Germany (whenever that was). I found myself wondering why you should pay 75E to get into a place where the girls are no better than what you could find for free at a low-end bar at home.
Nonetheless, after snooping around I did hone in on the hotter girls in the place – it's very international with girls from the Caribbean, all over Europe and elsewhere. At last I saw the most stunning bottle blonde with flawless skin. She was wearing nothing but high heels and a flower in her hair. She was shorter than a model, but with perfect proportions and the most stellar, large natural rack ever created by God, hanging down over her taut muscular abs. I'll call her a "10" only because the scale stops there.
Session #1
It turns out she was a Hungarian, about 25. We went to one of the screwing rooms without delay, my rod was bursting out of my bathrobe. However, I began to notice that the girl's demeanor was very sour and monotone. She announced her services menu like a laundry list. But a stunning chick telling you she does anal and everything is still titillating enough if you are suffering from blue balls. So I leaned back on the bed and she started with a perfect BBBJ – no teeth, and no hesitation to sink the ram rod all the way down. My whole dick was shining with saliva quickly. In fact I was already having trouble holding back. And did not want to release too soon.
What followed was sex in 3 positions, she would just lie there motionless and grumble angrily every time I would try to change the position, like it was too much work for her to roll over. I started to kiss her on the cheek while thrusting on top of her, and was repaid with a lecture on not doing that! ("No DFK please, I'm a processor"). Still, she was so beautiful and I was so horny that I could only hold back by thinking of Martha Stewart every few minutes. Then, finally I burst into the dome just after I had pulled out so she could go down on me to finish with BBBJ. What a terrible waste of fluid, the dome was drooping down with half a gallon in it! When that happened she became even more sour and bitter than before, like she had been ripped off or something.
We went to the lockers and I handed over 50E. Without saying a word, she spun on her heel and took off. Later I saw her milling around the pool – I guess sharks like the aquatic environment – surprisingly, not very busy. I was tempted to warn the other mongers about her, but did not want to risk a blow up in the bar.
Session #2
I was still extremely horny. I went to chill out in the Kino, where there was some action. Guys lying around, and a steady stream of girls coming in to give them some head-bobbing. One good BBBJ slurping happened just a few inches from me, and I felt like I was going to come in my robe watching. I had to shut my eyes and concentrate hard, thinking of dead rats to try to mentally distract myself! That still didn't work, so I tried to be even more vivid and imagine them lying there with their eyes crossed, the stench wafting up to my nostrils.
That still didn't work either, so I gave up and went to look for a girl who was to my taste. I was determined that the second round of cum would not be wasted! Soon I came across a curvaceous stunner with auburn hair, she looked like she could not have been more than 18, she was so innocent and had such clear smooth skin. She was a bit shorter than average and not quite in the league of the Hungarian shark, but stellar nonetheless with plush lips and soft, baby face features. She had only one small tattoo on her shoulder.
After talking for a few minutes, the girl seemed so sweet that I was smitten. She said she was 23, which I found hard to believe, and from somewhere in Eastern Europe.- I forget where. We disappeared into a side room. I quickly found that it was not an act, she was onto me like I was her boyfriend and started to DFK without hesitation and didn't want to stop. Soon I had my tongue up her ass. She did anything I wanted without complaint. In fact as the screwing went on, I could feel a lot of pussy juice wetting me down as she moaned softly. When I pulled out, I could see that her honey had flowed all down to her butt crack, so she really was enjoying herself.
I laid back to finish with BBBJCIM. As I blew a pent-up load into her mouth, her eyes went wide. Finally at the end she grabbed a towel and spat into it. "Wow, you sure had a huge load."
My biggest regret is that I did not repeat this SP the next night.
NEXT: Palace, Pt. II
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On a business trip to Germany a while ago, I made sure to arrange a weekend "lay over" in Frankfurt. I was very horned up.
On arriving, I could see that the contractors and interior designers who built the Palace deserve a gold star. It's so clean you could eat off the floor, there's beautiful mahogany paneling, a reading room, pool, and a separate smoking area.
However, the manager who oversees the hiring of SPs for the place deserves a lump of coal. Some mongers recently reported hot babes in this place, but when I was there a while ago only about 35% of the girls in there were do-able. Many were noticeably overweight, some tattooed from head to toe and looked like they had just escaped from a biker gang, and at least one SP looked like she might have been the grandmother of the owner of the very first FKK ever to open in Germany (whenever that was). I found myself wondering why you should pay 75E to get into a place where the girls are no better than what you could find for free at a low-end bar at home.
..........
I laid back to finish with BBBJCIM. As I blew a pent-up load into her mouth, her eyes went wide. Finally at the end she grabbed a towel and spat into it. "Wow, you sure had a huge load."
My biggest regret is that I did not repeat this SP the next night.
NEXT: Palace, Pt. II
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Very nice report. Do you happen to remember the names of the two SPs? That would be very helpful. Thank you.
As mentioned by the previous reporter, the place looks much better since the last time i have been over a year ago. The entrance is fee is a bit steep at 75 euro. I was there most of Saturday and the place is not very busy and the quality is also lower than what I remember from before. There are a couple of good looking ones without the attitude but no stunners.
Afternoon: First session was with Georgina from ....you guessed it, Romania. Dark haired girl with a small scar on her left upper thigh. All natural, decent looks and seemed friendly. I am less picky with my first picks as I like to take care of business and relax, wait for the prime providers.
I also saw Marina from Romania and Valentina Bulgaria, both A+. Details in the next post as I am loosing battery
Angus Magee
09-13-09, 08:45
On a business trip to Germany a while ago, I made sure to arrange a weekend "lay over" in Frankfurt. I was very horned up.
With all due respect Marine One, your reports (both here and in the Artemis thread) are fine, well written and descriptive, but without names they might as well be written to Penthouse Forum if that still exists.
I, perhaps more than many, appreciate the effort that goes into a well written, descriptive piece of prose. But the mandate (as I understand it) of this forum is to inform as well as entertain.
So while I thank you for your effort I would also encourage you to put names to the girls with whom you session and about whom you write. This would help the rest of us here either avoid (case#1) or seek out (case#2) the girl in question.
AM
M P Lurker
09-13-09, 09:33
However, the manager who oversees the hiring of SPs for the place deserves a lump of coal. Some mongers recently reported hot babes in this place, but when I was there a while ago only about 35% of the girls in there were do-able. Many were noticeably overweight, some tattooed from head to toe and looked like they had just escaped from a biker gang, and at least one SP looked like she might have been the grandmother of the owner of the very first FKK ever to open in Germany (whenever that was). I found myself wondering why you should pay 75E to get into a place where the girls are no better than what you could find for free at a low-end bar at home.It depends on personal taste. Obviously less than 35% of the girls are doable to me also. But that leaves a lot I would like to try. Plenty of guys are going with girls that are not doable for me.
The other poster just reported every girl was doable. He must be from somewhere where most girls are really ugly like where I come from.
There are plenty of girls too fat or too old for me. But I can still find gazelles. There are some really good looking girls. But you can't expect too many. I mean really stunning girls can usually find alternative well paid employment.
Who cares if there is a really old girl and she is not for you or me. Somebody takes her. Better to focus on the chicks that are hot for you. 35% doable is a great number in my view. At Oase, I would rate less than 20% as very doable but I am a hard to please man. So its not a problem. If 20% of 60 girls are very doable that gives me 12 to choose from. What a problem.
At Oase there are plenty of girls with really good bodies but relatively few with a really pretty face to my taste.
So that's one reason I prefer the Palace. Oase doesn't have Asians (pretty ones).
That's another reason I like The Palace.
M P Lurker
09-13-09, 14:46
Right now there's no Asian post-op LB at Palace. And there's quite a lot of signs, like height, size of feet and hands, adams apple, behaviour, voice, face, plastic tits.
Silicone tits doesn't help. All too common. However, in the case of the new Palace LB seen this week, (the one not at the Palace right when HB was last there), the deep voice plus exaggerated movements will give her away. Sorry, didn't ask the name.
Marine One
09-15-09, 02:14
by my 2nd night at the palace, i was feeling a little more relaxed, having blown two good loads the night before. after eating and looking around, and ignoring all the aggressive and homely sharks, i spotted a nordic looking blonde across the room. we traded smiles and i went to chat with her. she had a medium build, very curvy with a good hard body, and very pleasant demeanor. she was swedish, with curly hair about shoulder length. however, i began to notice up close that she was obviously no teenager – probably about 35-40 y.o.
nonetheless, she was so nice i agreed to follow her to a screwing room.
session # 1
the woman’s name escapes me -- some mongers may notice i have a shitty memory for names, but i try to describe the girls as best i can. next time maybe i will put a notepad and pen in my robe. (it takes me a year to remember the name of the chap in the office next to me). anyway this sp tried to make up for her faded youth with a five-star customer service ethic. always smiling and eager to assist in any way possible, she gladly submitted to requests. we screwed in most positions, especially doggy, with her apparently enjoying every minute of it as she seemed to get wetter and wetter. she was also starting to get a bit sweaty.
finally i ended it in the spoon position as i decided to forego cim and save a few euros. i let loose a load into the dome and pulled out a few minutes later after calming down. the condom stayed in her surprisingly tight slit so that the end of it was hanging. she pulled it out and held it up with a smile to see that it was drooping with the weight of all the white liquid. then she tossed it across the room into the wastebasket, where i guess it joined the rest of the spent domes, spit and cum laden napkins from all the other unstoppable mongers who came before me.
after showering, i wandered around for a while, then decided to lurk in the hallway outside the kino to satisfy voyeuristic urges and to recharge my phaser bank. soon i noticed a mulatto girl as i peered through the doorway. i could just see that she was lying face down with her ass cheeks up, and some monger’s feet were facing toes up on either side of her waist – that was all i could see, but obviously someone was getting his tool polished out in there. not long after, the girl came walking towards the door, her generous rack bouncing with the clop, clop of her high heels, a faint grin on her face as she wiped her mouth with a kleenex and dramatically threw it aside towards the wastebasket by the door.
by this time i was feeling revved up again, so i went to see who was available in the main lounge. soon i spotted a shorter, but slim and well proportioned young girl with shoulder length wavy dark hair. what really caught my eye though was her tight ass and miniscule g string. she would bend over to lean on the bench and i spent a long time just staring at her ass thinking how much i would like to get closer to it. finally i went to speak with her, and found out that she was a chatty 25 y.o. from georgia. i grabbed her slim, delicate hand and followed her to a zimmer.
session #2
once inside the room, the most unusual thing happened. the girl threw aside her purse and g-string, and without a word jumped face down on the bed and just lay there with her legs parted a little. my god, this is proof of telepathy, i thought! i wasted no time in doing a face plant into her butt crack and let my tongue do the walking, which was no problem for her.
this sure made my woody return and pretty soon she turned around and started to gobble my dick, then slipped on a hat and we did mish and doggy. when i felt the time was near, i rolled onto my back, threw the hat off, and pushed her head down again. i could feel a great load shoot into her mouth, but unlike the girl last night, she took it without a reaction – every drop. finally when it was done and she spit out my genetic code, i asked her “so, was it a lot?” she just looked at me a bit surprised by the question, and said “oh, no problem!”
next: palace, part iii – conclusion
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Marine One
09-17-09, 03:31
After my 4 sessions (see below), I was starting to feel a little drained. I had another meal and wandered around for an hour or two. An aggressive Russian shark attacked me; I fended her off and sat on the couch where a Dominican and a Brazilian pair of sharks tried to bite me, but I got rid of them too. Then I spotted a lovely young dirty blonde, shy looking with a trim and shapely figure, sitting just a few feet to my left. I turned to make a move, but suddenly an old Japanese guy (a big group of them had just come in) sat right between me and the girl, and started kissing her on the lips! She politely complied and they took off to a room. I watched for another hour, but they did not come back out, and I gave up.
Just as I was about to leave, I noticed a thin blonde, a bit short (probably about 5'4") with a very slight build. Many guys would probably find her too thin and she had a beak-like nose, and a relatively small chest.- but something was seductive about her. Her dyed hair was up in a neat a pony tail, and her makeup was immaculate. I looked around and thought, hell there is no other girl under 200 lbs in here, so I might as well talk to this one.
Session #5
It turns out the girl was a 25 y. O Lithuanian. We went into the zimmer and I noticed she had a very cold demeanor, which put me off but I think it was just a cultural or linguistic barrier. She certainly complied with every request and we did a few positions, but I could tell I was not going to come easily. So I laid back and she laid at a right angle to me and started polishing my tool, BBBJ, to try to finish me.
This went on for a while and she made a valiant effort. I got a kick out of watching her long, slender neck with an elegant gold chain around it bobbing vigorously up and down, no stopping. She went deeper and deeper and made her throat friction on my throbbing member as much as possible, but still no resolution! Finally she stopped, looked up and said "Baby, come on! "
Well I wasn't going to give up, so I pushed her head down again. She continued deep throating, up and down, and after a while I thought geez, she is going to get repetitive strain injury for sure. Finally at length she came up and said again, in the exact same voice, "Baby, come on! " Time was up, and nothing was going to happen, so I got up and put on my robe. Suddenly her cold demeanor broke and a worried look crossed her face, "it's OK? " she said. I realized that maybe she thought I was going to blast her for my lack of sperm. "Oh no, it's fine! " I said, "I'm just too tired. Too many girls."
I gave her 50E and had a shower, and not long after that I sat down on the swing opposite the bar, glanced at my watch, and rested my chin in my hand. I realized I was out of time, money, and fluid. And there was no point hanging around any longer. Just as I stood up to leave, the same tiny Lithuanian girl walked out of a zimmer and in front of me in the main bar area, and a very young monger (probably 20) was following right behind her. The DJ was playing the song "Sex Machine" by Dope. The monger's face was lit up, a smile plastered from ear to ear. He turned to everyone at the bar and put his hand over the head of the SP, pointing down on her for all to see, and called out "Sex machine! Sex machine!" This was amusing enough to stick in my mind.
NEXT: in a few days, I am going to the mongering hot bed of Dusseldorf NRW region, just for fun. I will let you filthy minded mongers know what happens.
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Marina: As I said before, she is from Romania. The report is delayed by 4 days or so...the finer details are a bit vague in my mind. She has a beautiful body and a nice face. Very nice service. Not a clock watcher and did not try to up sell, unlike Georgina. Highly recommend.
Valentina: Blonde from Bulgaria. She was my third from Palace on the same day as Georgina and Marina. Most of the time she sits by herself and not aggressive. She can deep throat (may be I am easy to deep throat :-) and she gave me the best BBBJ including over a dozen or so girls I was with the following 4 days. Not a clock watcher. Highly recommend.
However, the manager who oversees the hiring of SPs for the place deserves a lump of coal. Some mongers recently reported hot babes in this place, but when I was there a while ago only about 35% of the girls in there were do-able. Many were noticeably overweight, some tattooed from head to toe and looked like they had just escaped from a biker gang, and at least one SP looked like she might have been the grandmother of the owner of the very first FKK ever to open in Germany (whenever that was). I found myself wondering why you should pay 75E to get into a place where the girls are no better than what you could find for free at a low-end bar at home.
I had two good sessions at Palace so I am not complaining too much, but in Principle I agree with Marine one. The quality at Palace is lower than what I experienced before. I am not going to argue about absolute numbers vs %s but the fact of the matter is that when you only have few quality girls, the others get more aggressive to get your business and it wears on you after a while. Of course if you are a regular or pre determined who you are going with, this puts you at a major disadvantage. Bottom line, if they want my repeat business, the management needs to work on the quality.
Plan to be in Frankfurt Oct 7 and see that Palace plans an Oktoberfest party. Anybody been to one there and have a recommendation on whether to go or to head to Oase?
Any info or recommendations on Oktoberfest at Palace Oct. 7?
Plan to be in Frankfurt Oct 7 and see that Palace plans an Oktoberfest party. Anybody been to one there and have a recommendation on whether to go or to head to Oase?
Do you want to see a spectacle? Some blue and white checkered tablecloths? Then indeed join the hordes of "party goers" and elbow your way up to the buffet and drink the free beer (is anything ever free at Palace?), duck around the decorations and listen to the traditional German drinking music and knock yourself out. I haven't been to an Octokerfest at Palace, did the one at FKK World in 2007- when I entered checkered-dressed girls were handing out whistles to everyone and the cacophany was not pleasant. I believe they had the tranvestite MC, or was it the Brazilian dancers?
However, if pussy is job one, then give it a pass. The girls will be covered up with costumes, they will try and maximize their income by trying to return to the party-swollen fishing pond ASAP which means less TLC for you. I would think though that zimmerkrise hasn't been a problem since they added the new wing of rooms.
That party avoidance goes for FKKW too. It's not prime hunting conditions IMHO.
beffen- give me the day before the party anyday
Great reports Marine One,
Keep up the good work!
I got many months before my next FKK visit sadly.
Thanks Beffen,
Appreciate the guidance from one of the greats. Feel as if I am getting hitting lessons from Derek Jeter.
Think I will give it a shot just for the experience. Will be at Palace previous Friiday (Oct. 2) anyway and can always duck out and head to Oase if the whistles get too loud.
Wouldn't be the first time I had paid some money just for a lessonin the hobby.
Anybody heading for Palace Friday Oct 2 or Wednesday Oct 7 and wanting to get together, post here or PM me. Cheers.
Dear Mongers,
I am always keen on white girls.
After reading recent reports of Palace, Oase and World, I have known Palace is better than Oase in terms of white girl's looks quality.
But I still have not known which in Palace and World is better.
So, would you kindly inform me which in Palace and World is better in terms of recent white girl's looks quality?
Thanks in advance.
Hey buddy,
The ladies come and the ladies go. Nice ladies in World and nice ladies in Palace. Great that you dig the white chicks. Don't we all! Them black and brown ladies are good too! Why don't you visit Palace and World and let us know who has got the white girl's looks quality. Well time for me to turn in! Nice chattin to ya Johnny!
Take it Easy
CD
PS. The chow is better in World!
Dear Mongers,
I am always keen on white girls.
After reading recent reports of Palace, Oase and World, I have known Palace is better than Oase in terms of white girl's looks quality.
But I still have not known which in Palace and World is better.
So, would you kindly inform me which in Palace and World is better in terms of recent white girl's looks quality?
Thanks in advance.
Hurenkaufer
09-25-09, 19:28
Thanks Beffen,
Appreciate the guidance from one of the greats. Feel as if I am getting hitting lessons from Derek Jeter.
Think I will give it a shot just for the experience. Will be at Palace previous Friiday (Oct. 2) anyway and can always duck out and head to Oase if the whistles get too loud.
Wouldn't be the first time I had paid some money just for a lessonin the hobby.
Anybody heading for Palace Friday Oct 2 or Wednesday Oct 7 and wanting to get together, post here or PM me. Cheers.I will be at "Palace" on Wednesday Oct 7. I did not know that it was "Oktoberfest" that night when I booked my planetickets from Sweden - but it will be interesting to see. Its my 12th time at "Palace", I try to go ones a month.
I will be at "Palace" on Wednesday Oct 7. I did not know that it was "Oktoberfest" that night when I booked my planetickets from Sweden. But it will be interesting to see. Its my 12th time at "Palace", I try to go ones a month.Would be delighted to meet up. Plan to be there about 3 pm (15:00)and to stay until I can't stand up any more. Tell me when you will be there and I can plan to be at the upper bar above the stripper pole at that time.
Have been several times before. Wish I could go once a month. Previous reports filed under Custom.
Cheers,
Kahului
Suller Joe
09-26-09, 01:32
Anyone at Palace talking swine flu? A big international car show and the flu could be bad, I guess. Maybe I am exaggerating, but it keeps me away.
You probably should stay away. You have a better chance of dieing by just driving to the club or by catching the common flu from a bus stop to the club. Stay safe and stay away from such a dangerous place.
Anyone at Palace talking swine flu? A big international car show and the flu could be bad, I guess. Maybe I am exaggerating, but it keeps me away.
Man up Ace and get #!c*i#g real!
Take a chance and live a little or are ya afraid that ya might stub your big toe if ya go outside!
Anyone at Palace talking swine flu? A big international car show and the flu could be bad, I guess. Maybe I am exaggerating, but it keeps me away.
Anyone at Palace talking swine flu? A big international car show and the flu could be bad, I guess. Maybe I am exaggerating, but it keeps me away.
I agree with Foxx: Definitely stay away. Incredible danger....More girls for us!
Maybe I am exaggeratingYou are over-reacting.
Go and have fun!
I know you lads would like to try this.
Design Pro
09-27-09, 01:40
Guys,
After reading the posts here about Palace I was pretty disappointed in this place. As with all new experiences there is an element of the unknown and always the potential for failure. This was just such an experience. Perhaps I just had some bad luck but, hey, that's part of the experience right?
Don't get me wrong, the facility itself was very nice and the staff was friendly and helpful. The lady at the front spoke excellent english and my beginner German was enough to make this pretty easy. The lockers rooms were top notch, the areas were clean and all of the showers, jacuzzi, massage room etc were very nice.
The problems apparently are the two girls I had the misfortune to pick.
Round 1: Saw a cute little brunette who had no problem kissing or getting friendly. Still, I prefer to take the girls to the Kino first to make sure we click. Warning #1 was when she shot a quick glance into the Kino room and turned to me announcing that it was full. We headed to the room and I was then hit up with the classic up sell. "You want one hour right" NO, "You like anal? We do anal" NO, "You know room and BJ 50 EUR? If you want sex is 100 EURO". At this point I stood up, grabbed my towel and started to head for the door. Even though we had already kissed and she had already baptized little DP, I was just irritated by this time. Then she grabbed my hand and said "OK, OK, BJ and sex 50 EUR. But no kissing" For Pete's sake! Now I just wanted to bang her and be done with the whole thing but, oh no, she has to persist with the hurry up routine etc. Until I have to tell her to turn over and be quiet. What a waste.
Anyway, after that fiasco, I decided to just take a long break and hit the lounge chairs for a nap. This was going just fine until I was gently nudged awake by a really cute & hot little Romanian by the name of Georgina (or Georgiana). She hopped into the lounge with me, we talked and kissed and not to be burnt a second time I told her to go ahead and start on junior. She was wiling to oblige and dropped straight down. OK, so far so good, and we're off to the Kino for a little "getting to know you" time. Again, some kissing and BBBJ until I tell her let's go grab a room. It goes south in a hurry. "All rooms are taken, 40 minute wait, you pay 100 EUR if you want to wait for room". Oh brother, after the first experience, I was not in the mood for more games so I just told her to flip over and took her right there.
Who knows, I'm sure not all of the girls are like this and it is not always as crowded (auto show this weekend) but I, for one, will NOT be back. My experience the night before up at Oase (see post in that forum) was the best while this was close to the bottom of the list.
Oh well, live and learn.
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Hessen Bub
09-27-09, 10:08
IAA is not the best time to visit Palace or Oase, lot of girls trying to make quick money especially with newbies. Would be nice to know the first girl's name.
cute & hot little Romanian by the name of Georgina (or Georgiana).
She does sometimes wear a wig, was working at World before and is not known for good service.
HB
Will be there Friday Oct. 2 and again Wednesday Oct 7 from 3 p.m. on. Happy to hang with fellow ISGers. Post, PM or look for me. Been before. Previous posts under custom.
Cheers
With all due respect, both for you and the exalted NRW clubs and scene: I think statements like: "but when a newbie is ready for the real thing and tired of the tourist scene"...blah, blah do not do justice to the reality of the Hessen 3 (the so-called "tourist scene"), and may actually betray how out of touch you are with what is actually happening inside the Hessen clubs here in 2009.
I would respectfully suggest that you are guilty of painting a false picture with a single stroke of your brush, and perhaps, just perhaps, not knowing exactly what you are talking about. I hope this is not unfair. But:
If you visit any of the big clubs in Hessen on a prime day (Thus-Sun) or during a Messe event, you will encounter a huge number and variety of girls. You cannot simply with a wave of your hand say that all the girls engage in "constant upsell and self-marketing" or that all or even the vast majority of them are sharks, or rip-off artists or scammers or whatever. Do those types exist in the Hessen clubs? Sure they do! Are there more of them in the Hessen clubs than in the smaller NRW clubs: You bet, and for obvious reasons. A larger sample size will yield a larger number of bad apples.
But I believe your portrayal fo the clubs in Hessen as 'simply clubs for tourists and thus not worth the time of day of serious mongers' is both naive and far-fetched. I am sober at the moment and I can say that this is definitely a false portait. Your comments ignore the fact that one can and often will find girls that are just as service oriented as girls in NRW clubs, and many of them. You just have to know/learn/develop a sense for selecting them out of the the incredible choices that you encounter at a big club where girl numbers can reach over 50 at one time. I daresay that if you were to actually make a contemporary visit to one of these Hessen clubs, you would agree at least in part with what I am saying. But it would require a visit with an open mind and without too many pre-conceptions.
I've been to some of the NRW clubs, the smaller ones you describe, and I love them. But still I keep coming back to the Hessen clubs as my main base for several reasons. I don't think it's right to paint them as "just for tourists and newbies..." Look at some of the experienced mongers who visit both Hessen and NRW clubs on a regular basis: Dedalus, Iseeu, Hessen Bub, Radler/E.L., Toscana, on and on...
Lastly, it wasn't too long ago that it was Palace and Palace alone that was singled out for the kind of negative bashing and treatment. Some of it was justified, some of was not. But slowly we have traced similar negative points related to Oase, World, GT, Artemis, LR and and maybe even from time to time some dud session reports about --God forgive me-- Bernd's. Not often, but sometimes.
So at the risk of fighting fire with fire, I call your bluff and ask you to state categorically, Mr Jackyo, when were you last in: Oase, World, Palace? There are many girls there that could/would fit into the NRW mould and they often are a bit under the radar...because that's the way we like it, ja?
Danke fuer deine verstehnis (sorry for spelling!),
Ortos Hessen Tourist ManOrtos,
Fully agree. In Colorado some locals say that Vail and Aspen are just for the tourists and that it is better to ski in the smaller, more local places. But the fact is that tourists come to Vail and Aspen for a reason: they are bigger and better than anywhere else in the state. Same is true for the Hessen three.
And my word! All the groaning about sharks! Isn't it worth an occasional encounter with an upsell in return for having dozens good looking girls asking you to fuck instead of the other way around? And if you want to avoid upsells, whatever happened to just saing no? Part of the thrill of this hobby is being able to pick and choose. Big deal if one doesn't work out perfectly once in a while. I've been a doxen times and maybe had one or two sessions that were less that compeletly stellar. It doesn't get any better than this.
Cheers
Nicely put Kahului. When you travel to any of the clubs, be it any of the BIG Hessen or NRW establishments. You better not forget to pack your cajones! You are the one who is paying, so you gotta stay in charge. Sure sometimes things will not go as planned, but if this is a constant occurance, better to stay at home and have a good ol game of checkers with Ma and Pa!
Too much bitchin and moanin in this forum about the bigger clubs (specially the Hessen 3). Some of the guys round here need to man up and stop actin like faggots!
CD
And my word! All the groaning about sharks! Isn't it worth an occasional encounter with an upsell in return for having dozens good looking girls asking you to fuck instead of the other way around? And if you want to avoid upsells, whatever happened to just saing no? Part of the thrill of this hobby is being able to pick and choose. Big deal if one doesn't work out perfectly once in a while. I've been a doxen times and maybe had one or two sessions that were less that compeletly stellar. It doesn't get any better than this.
Cheers
Hurenkaufer
09-27-09, 20:34
Would be delighted to meet up. Plan to be there about 3 pm (15:00)and to stay until I can't stand up any more. Will be wearing a bright orange watch band. Tell me when you will be there and I can plan to be at the upper bar above the stripper pole at that time.
Have been several times before. Wish I could go once a month. Previous reports filed under Custom.
Cheers,
KahuluiThats sounds good. You can send me an e-mail: [Email address deleted by Admin]
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Design Pro
09-27-09, 21:39
IAA is not the best time to visit Palace or Oase, lot of girls trying to make quick money especially with newbies. Would be nice to know the first girl's name.
She does sometimes wear a wig, was working at World before and is not known for good service.
HBIf I remember correctly, the first girl said her name was Amy (Amie). I remember it only because it struck me as an odd name for an EE but what do I know ;-)
Off to Oase tonight for a pleasant repeat. Cheers!
Marine One
09-30-09, 02:52
Ortos,
Fully agree. In Colorado some locals say that Vail and Aspen are just for the tourists and that it is better to ski in the smaller, more local places. But the fact is that tourists come to Vail and Aspen for a reason: they are bigger and better than anywhere else in the state. Same is true for the Hessen three.
CheersThat is well said.. I just returned from some punting around the NRW region with much cheaper, smaller FKKs.- my reports will soon follow (Living Room and Dolce Vita). I must say these clubs definitely do not have the "wow factor" of the Hessen Big 3. There is something great about the large numbers and selection in the big clubs.. Even if the quality is slipping!
Sebastiane
09-30-09, 22:25
I've visited Palace so many times now that I no longer feel the need to report back on my visits immediately! Still the last two visits have been quite good and I've noticed a lot of new girls and some old favourites who no longer seem to be working (wherefore art thou Natasha?)
The last time I had an excellent session with the beautiful, lithe, petite German blonde Sophie from Hamburg. She is very pretty--looks a lot like Paris Hilton but without the plastic--and has a great toned body and v good English and is good in bed! She does everything except analingus for some reason. Very good session! 150 euros for 1 hour (including some extras).
I also went with a girl from Greece called Eva first. Slightly large build but curvaceous and not fat; she was very friendly and a dirty blonde and had a pleasant session with her with me coming in her mouth. 100 euros.
The visit before that I went with Ruby, an East European girl--very slim, silky skin, petite, dark haired, speaks excellent English, and had a good session. Also had a fantastic session with a girl called Marina who was also German and v enthusiastic. Finished with a long session with one of my favourites, Indira, which, though I was tired, was great as usual. I ended up staying longer than I planned and I carried out a sexual fetish fantasy too. But I had to use my CC to get some more money (my total spend that day topped 500! ) and the machine didn't accept my card so I had to go to the ATM which was a bit embarassing in my Palace robes! Still, she took it in good stead and laughed it off. (She got her money of course! )
So, some good sessions with some lovely new girls.
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Will be soon passing via Frankfurt again and will visit good old Palace again. :D
Unfortunately I have to read here that "the list of extras" is getting longer and longer and that girls try to get an additional payment for COB too.
So the whole fun gets more and more mechanically and before starting the action you have to fix up everything to avoid unpleasant situations.
Especially in the Palace are working a lot of chicas trying to add an extra.
Especially when they start after 15 minutes to tell you that time is already over.
Last time I got angry when a girl tried to get extra EUR 50.- saying that time was over (after 25 minutes).
Fortunately not all of them are like that!
Frankfurt 1/10
I'm a Swedish guy in my mid 30th: s and quite new to the mongering-experience. Lucky me reading about the FKK: s when thinking of going to Prague for some fun. So I choosed Frankfurt because it's higly recomended. Checked in at Flemings Neue Börse Thursday 1/10 (a small story itself. Had done a prepayment on www.hotels.com for a buisnessclass-room and got up to the room. Buisness my ass. Rang down to the reception and asked for the classification of my room.comfort was the answer and went down to reception to change. Got upp and the new room was slightly bigger but again, my ass no buisness. Went down and talked to the receptionist who then became a little bit bitchy. Asked for the manager and showed the reservation as he snaped his finger to the little snatch. Now I enjoy a spaceus room with bubblebath, large sofagroup, free minibar and free films. Never give up when you are right!
Ready for the action I went to the Palace about 5 pm, quite a lot of girls and more coming. Got into my robe and strolled around for a while to have a look all-over. Very nice indeed. Had a coke and sat down for a while in a sofa. Many girls coming forward. Some very pushy some less. I decieded not to let the more pushy girls have my mony. After halfanhour or so Czechish Gina came over (I didn't realise then that she is mentioned quite a lot here, as very good). I passed her offer (said maby later) wanting to get the hang of the best way to get a nice girl.
Then a new girl entered and sat down, presented her as Floore from Bulgaria, dirt-blond about 175 cm and well proportioned. Not pushy the slightest. We sat and talked for about fifteen minutes. This was her second day in Germany and the Plaace. Ok, so we went for a room. Told her I wanted the 50E. Very nice kissing (initimate), veeeery nice BBBJ. My god I had to think of my mother in law. No DATY (50E extra. Passed). Went for some action. Cow, missionary and so on. Wanted to do doggy-slaming but she tought I was to big so we continued missonary as I couldn't hold back and blew the load in her. Really nice experience. When we came out there was wery little people around. Dinnertime. Nice food. Went together after paying for the food (felt a little bit funny to eat dinner with a girl you just fucked). After dinner I bumped into Gina who was asking if I was ready for her (in a nice non pushy flirting style. I started to like her a lot). Once again I declined her offer as I newly had dinner. So she say " I take another customer for one hour and I'll be back for you and the we go for a room". I said ok. The hour went by and not seeing Gina I started to get horny again.
At the pole were it's pillows (beneath the big bar) there is always the same two or three girls laying around and one of them, Natasha, from Rumania I think, looked at me with a deep intense eyes as I sat in the swing-sofabed. She has a drop-dead-slim-gorgeus body with small tits. Ahh, what the heck, Gina can wait until later. Entered to her and asked if I could sit down but she said "lets go to room" directly and beeing horny and ready to raise a tent I couldn't resist. Of we went. Found a room. She asked me to lay down and asked for what I wanted. No intimacy. She went on with BBBJ. Just up and down with teeth. Crapy. Fucking cow and missionary was mechanich. I had hard to come. Flipped her to doggy. Started to pound and she was complaning about she had been in a car-accident. Fucking anoying. I faked orgasm and pulled out. Wrapping the gum in paper quick. Went for payment and a quick kiss godbye. Wasted cash.
As I was going out from the showers I bumped into Gina who said "now you are mine for the next hour". I couldn't resist (and wouldn't regret it). We headed straight for a room. As we got there she told me what's included in the package (sex, BBBJ, kissing, fingering and DATY. In a nice way). Fine with me as beeing horny as hell. Gina has a nice body. Well proportioned, not the very slim but firm, dirt-blond hair and nice fake boobs. My kind of girl. She started with nice caressing and we talk about me, my work and so on. She tought I had a qiute slim body an I explained I'd lost about 13 kg in three months by a certain diet (GI) so she said "we talk more after sex" and went on with sucking and biting my nipples, kissing my breast and down. Reaching for my coock. I haven't got that nice blowjob ever. She is the best. Went on with 69 for quite a while, cowgirl and really nice rewerse cow, missionary and the finish with doggy (she was laying watching at me as I pounded her), when I was closing to orgasm I stopped for three seconds (beeing exhuasted in my arms) and went on, doing so, a couple of times I reached one of the best orgasm (the best) I ever had (it lasted for over thirty seconds). Afterwards we were talking about my work and the diet. Time went on and when we came out of there and I paied the agreed amount I realised thath we have been in the room for more than 100 minutes.
I went for the bar to have a coke, realy happy and satisfied. Sat down in the big sofa beneath the bar for an hour, flirting with both Floore and Gina when passing by and feeling my "moijo" coming back. At the sofa straight beneath the big "spinning" pole there is a also a few girls also hanging around. One of them, can't remember her name (tatooed on her back (6-7 letters from neck and down)) short brunette hair, I think from Rumania has a great ass, wich she indeed shows, trapped me with my tounge out. My body said no (it was now 1.30 am) but my dick said yeeees. We went for a room and the action began. Terrible BBBJ. Only upp and down with sharp teeth, then sex with a lot of talking, fake moaning. Got tired of all the bla bla bla bla and flipped her to doggy and started to pound hard and fast (she stopped talking. Just saying uh uh uh). Small orgasm. Nothing to talk about. Paid and kisskiss.
Tired and exhuasted I sat down on the long sofa. Soon a girl laid down a meter away. Nice looking, not trying to talk. I won't tell her name as she told me there was bad buisness for her today as the girls actually pay entrance 75E, tax 25 E, and living 25 E and she only had five customers this whole day. She would need a mere 150E to go home on the next day. I told her I could not manage more sex and she said ok, asking me if I wanted a chewinggum. Why not. Lay there talking for a while. I said bye and headed for the showers to change.coming out of there she is sitting right outside. I say bye once more. Walkning out of there I regret not asking her to my hotelroom for the night for 150E with just company (no sex. Maybe in the morning). I should have asked her, becuse today 2/10 I met her again and explained regreting not asking her, she told me that she more than happily would have followed me. Damn!
I give you a report of my next visit (2/10) to the Palce tomorrow (read 3/10)
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Lookoflove7
10-03-09, 10:26
Czechish Gina came over (I didn't realise then that she is mentioned quite a lot here, as very good).
As I was going out from the showers I bumped into Gina who said "now you are mine for the next hour". I couldn't resist (and wouldn't regret it).
She is the best.Hi Booner73, nice report.
Appreciate your story with Gina, seems we had the same experience.
When Gina is in the place, you cannot miss her whenever you session with her or not.
Had great several sessions with her, she is my number one. "First love never dies" (Bacharach/David).
Indeed, she's got something special that make you really confortable when you are with her.
LOL7
frankfurt 3/10
forgot to write cost of yesterday: flhoore 50e inkl sex, bbbj, dfk - 35 min. natasha 50e inkl sex, bbbj - 15 min. gina 100e inkl sex, bbbj, daty, dfk - 100 min (lot of talking and cuddling afterwards). last girl 50 e inkl sex and bbbj - 20 min.
i allready made a reservation for a car at sixt for picking up at 5 pm as i intended to go for the oase this evening. but going to sleep to late and too many coffes the day before making it hard to get asleep and for the big reason i wanted to to have a go with czech gina again i cancelled the car. went for some shopping - just strolling around. eventually went by the red-light-district and had a quick visit in one of the sexclubs - went out again after two minutes - i gladly pay the entrance att palace instead!
as having a tough day yesterday i took 20 mg of cialis to be sure - tried it at home i got such a headache - now it was fine, took an aspirin to be sure
ran (or more bumped into) a young woman in the new mall downtown - it was flhoore (the bulgarian girl from yesterday). she smiled at me quickly and went on. ok, so i have to do both her and gina tonight.
i got there 8 pm to find the place quite crowded and people kept coming. instead of wearing a robe as yesterday (getting quite warm) i wraped a towel around my waist - can tell now the "sharks" doesnt hit you as hard when using a towel - seems that the beginners prefer a robe and more frequent visitors use a towel - give me your opinion please!!!
went around for a while, took a coke in the bar and headed for the "restaurant". halfway thru my course gina and friend sat down - gina now following my advise of gi-diet, nice talking about everything and nothing. finished - she asked for a session but i said i had to wait for the food to settle "no problem - we settle it with hard sex" she said and smiled, but i gave her a hug and said i would keep looking for her later on.
went to the bar for an espresso and some water - found a place in the swing-sofabed and sat there for an hour or so. i was ready for gina but just as i made the move she went into battle with an other guy. looking around for a prey - ahhh there was flhoore sitting all alone - i went there and she imediatly recognised me. she is a little bit shy - more next door-girl. she aparently allways has some kind of scarf around her neck (she told me it´s her gimick - she has ten diffrent). i took her hand and we went for a room. all the room was taken so we had to sit waiting for a while. she was caressing me on my chest and stomoch. i loosend the towel wanting her to give me some blow but she said no for the reson thre might be cameras there (i couldn´t see any cameras) - pitty. once in the room i decided for the one hour and she shine up. really long bbbj, cow, mish and knowing she dindn´t want doggie on her knees i asked her to stand up against the wall with her but out. i entered and begun slowly to pound - asking if it´s ok - ok it was and i started to pick up the pace, fingering her i noticeed she was wet - not from lube but from juice. we went faster and faster and i could feel her cramping pussy as she was about to come - woooow she was mooning by her orgasm and the jucies were flowing - i made some realy hard strokes and had an orgasm way beyond. we practicaly fell down on the bed. jesus......! just laying for a while kissing she explained she was a little bit sorry(?) she explained she normaly could keep in control but now she lost it....i kissed her and told her i wouldn´t tell the other guys. we went for the lockers and i paid her 100e + 20e tip. 75 min
i didn´t take many steps after shower till gina caught me asking to go - shit i was exhausted and told her the secret and said give me an hour. the hour went by and gina found me and pushed me to a room. first a smooky room and i said i couldnt stand it so we were lucky finding another quickly. her bbbj is the best - i can tell. she started with my small dick in mouth and it started to grow (thank god i ate cialis) and soon she was working on my big stiff, went for sex - reverse cow - what a sight - mish and then doggie. yesterday she had cramp in her legs after doggy so she put her legs inside of min an lay down on the bed - making it sooo tigth. i went on for a few minutes and a new heavy orgasm took me away. some talking and carresing afterwards. she is my number one!!! 100e + 20e tip. 60 min
feeling that an other session maybe would be enough i went to the sauna, to the bar, sitting just watching the buisness. now it was about 2 am and i as was about to leave then one little blond girl started to do a lapdance. her name is mariana (i think) from ukraine and she is superpetite and skinny, blond long pigtail - not normaly my kind of girl, but doing the lapdance at the pole was enough for me and i wanted to give it a try. right after she was finished i went to her taking her hand and asked for some company (not wanting somebody else to take her in front of my eyes). we went for a room and i lay down on the bed with a massive hardon - she looked at it and took it in her hands saying that i have to be a little careful with her becuase her pussy was so tight....oh man she blew me and i had to think of my mother in law again. on with condom and reverse cow, slowly she sat down on me - wow she was tight, doing so for some minutes, changed to mish - i could easily lift her up a while (she´s about 160 cm and 45 kg). we changed to doggy and i was about to come - so i lay her legs inside of mine (same as gina earlier had done), wow now it was even tighter (felt like anal) and i took about ten long hard strookes before i shot the load in her. i asked her if she was ok - "no problem, you are big but i can handle" she said and smiled. went for the looker and paid 50e. 25 min.
crawled home to the hotel and slept for 12 hours.
i first intended to go on palace sat 3/10 but now second tought, i (my dick) have to rest for a day. flying home tomorow at 6.30 pm i have time for a last visit, thats for sure.
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Well, after lurking on here for several weeks I think I am going to make my first ever FKK trip to Palace in a few weeks.
Thanks for all the reports!
I took her hand and we went for a room. All the room was taken so we had to sit waiting for a while. She was caressing me on my chest and stomoch. I loosend the towel wanting her to give me some blow but she said no for the reson thre might be cameras there (I couldn´t see any cameras) - pitty. Once in the room I decided for the one hour and she shine up. We went for the lockers and I paid her 100E + 20E tip. 75 min
I didn´t take many steps after shower till Gina caught me asking to go - shit I was exhausted and told her the secret and said give me an hour. The hour went by and Gina found me and pushed me to a room. Some talking and carresing afterwards. She is my number one!!! 100E + 20E tip. 60 min
I'd like to applaud you for writing great reports. Esp that you include names and other details of the girls you did, which allows all of us to benefit from your information. So often guys just write they banged some platinum blonde or whatever and nobody can take anything usefull from the report because nobody knows who the guy is talking about. Thanks for keeping the standard high!
But wtf is with the tipping???? I mean, you're not in Kansas anymore. This is not the USA where you have to tip. Tipping like this marks you as a complete newbie, and one can understand why a girl like Gina targets you and tries to push you into the room. Why do you let a girl push you around like that? So why tip her, esp when she charges you extra for dfk and decent service which other girls provide as a standard element of the 50E programme? And the Bulgarian Florie, she gives you some bullshit story about cameras in order to avoid giving you couch action whilst waiting for a room (which many, many girls give without a second thought), and you tip her? Astonishing...
Just a word for general consumption: When you extend a session from 30mins to 60mins, that in itself is a tip. You don't have to tip twice...
Thanks again for the great reports...
Ortos
Frankfurt 1/10
I'm a Swedish guy in my mid 30th: s and quite new to the mongering-experience. Lucky me reading about the FKK: s when thinking of going to Prague for some fun. So I choosed Frankfurt because it's higly recomended. Checked in at Flemings Neue Börse Thursday 1/10 (a small story itself. Had done a prepayment on www.hotels.com for a buisnessclass-room and got up to the room. Buisness my ass. Rang down to the reception and asked for the classification of my room.comfort was the answer and went down to reception to change. Got upp and the new room was slightly bigger but again, my ass no buisness. Went down and talked to the receptionist who then became a little bit bitchy. Asked for the manager and showed the reservation as he snaped his finger to the little snatch. Now I enjoy a spaceus room with bubblebath, large sofagroup, free minibar and free films. Never give up when you are right!
Ready for the action I went to the Palace about 5 pm, quite a lot of girls and more coming. Got into my robe and strolled around for a while to have a look all-over. Very nice indeed. Had a coke and sat down for a while in a sofa. Many girls coming forward. Some very pushy some less. I decieded not to let the more pushy girls have my mony. After halfanhour or so Czechish Gina came over (I didn't realise then that she is mentioned quite a lot here, as very good). I passed her offer (said maby later) wanting to get the hang of the best way to get a nice girl.
Then a new girl entered and sat down, presented her as Floore from Bulgaria, dirt-blond about 175 cm and well proportioned. Not pushy the slightest. We sat and talked for about fifteen minutes. This was her second day in Germany and the Plaace. Ok, so we went for a room. Told her I wanted the 50E. Very nice kissing (initimate), veeeery nice BBBJ. My god I had to think of my mother in law. No DATY (50E extra. Passed). Went for some action. Cow, missionary and so on. Wanted to do doggy-slaming but she tought I was to big so we continued missonary as I couldn't hold back and blew the load in her. Really nice experience. When we came out there was wery little people around. Dinnertime. Nice food. Went together after paying for the food (felt a little bit funny to eat dinner with a girl you just fucked). After dinner I bumped into Gina who was asking if I was ready for her (in a nice non pushy flirting style. I started to like her a lot). Once again I declined her offer as I newly had dinner. So she say " I take another customer for one hour and I'll be back for you and the we go for a room". I said ok. The hour went by and not seeing Gina I started to get horny again.
At the pole were it's pillows (beneath the big bar) there is always the same two or three girls laying around and one of them, Natasha, from Rumania I think, looked at me with a deep intense eyes as I sat in the swing-sofabed. She has a drop-dead-slim-gorgeus body with small tits. Ahh, what the heck, Gina can wait until later. Entered to her and asked if I could sit down but she said "lets go to room" directly and beeing horny and ready to raise a tent I couldn't resist. Of we went. Found a room. She asked me to lay down and asked for what I wanted. No intimacy. She went on with BBBJ. Just up and down with teeth. Crapy. Fucking cow and missionary was mechanich. I had hard to come. Flipped her to doggy. Started to pound and she was complaning about she had been in a car-accident. Fucking anoying. I faked orgasm and pulled out. Wrapping the gum in paper quick. Went for payment and a quick kiss godbye. Wasted cash.
As I was going out from the showers I bumped into Gina who said "now you are mine for the next hour". I couldn't resist (and wouldn't regret it). We headed straight for a room. As we got there she told me what's included in the package (sex, BBBJ, kissing, fingering and DATY. In a nice way). Fine with me as beeing horny as hell. Gina has a nice body. Well proportioned, not the very slim but firm, dirt-blond hair and nice fake boobs. My kind of girl. She started with nice caressing and we talk about me, my work and so on. She tought I had a qiute slim body an I explained I'd lost about 13 kg in three months by a certain diet (GI) so she said "we talk more after sex" and went on with sucking and biting my nipples, kissing my breast and down. Reaching for my coock. I haven't got that nice blowjob ever. She is the best. Went on with 69 for quite a while, cowgirl and really nice rewerse cow, missionary and the finish with doggy (she was laying watching at me as I pounded her), when I was closing to orgasm I stopped for three seconds (beeing exhuasted in my arms) and went on, doing so, a couple of times I reached one of the best orgasm (the best) I ever had (it lasted for over thirty seconds). Afterwards we were talking about my work and the diet. Time went on and when we came out of there and I paied the agreed amount I realised thath we have been in the room for more than 100 minutes.
I went for the bar to have a coke, realy happy and satisfied. Sat down in the big sofa beneath the bar for an hour, flirting with both Floore and Gina when passing by and feeling my "moijo" coming back. At the sofa straight beneath the big "spinning" pole there is a also a few girls also hanging around. One of them, can't remember her name (tatooed on her back (6-7 letters from neck and down)) short brunette hair, I think from Rumania has a great ass, wich she indeed shows, trapped me with my tounge out. My body said no (it was now 1.30 am) but my dick said yeeees. We went for a room and the action began. Terrible BBBJ. Only upp and down with sharp teeth, then sex with a lot of talking, fake moaning. Got tired of all the bla bla bla bla and flipped her to doggy and started to pound hard and fast (she stopped talking. Just saying uh uh uh). Small orgasm. Nothing to talk about. Paid and kisskiss.
Tired and exhuasted I sat down on the long sofa. Soon a girl laid down a meter away. Nice looking, not trying to talk. I won't tell her name as she told me there was bad buisness for her today as the girls actually pay entrance 75E, tax 25 E, and living 25 E and she only had five customers this whole day. She would need a mere 150E to go home on the next day. I told her I could not manage more sex and she said ok, asking me if I wanted a chewinggum. Why not. Lay there talking for a while. I said bye and headed for the showers to change.coming out of there she is sitting right outside. I say bye once more. Walkning out of there I regret not asking her to my hotelroom for the night for 150E with just company (no sex. Maybe in the morning). I should have asked her, becuse today 2/10 I met her again and explained regreting not asking her, she told me that she more than happily would have followed me. Damn!
I give you a report of my next visit (2/10) to the Palce tomorrow (read 3/10)
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Hi
Did you really had orgasm over 30 seconds !!
You must be a superman
If you read about the male orgasm in wikipedeia it says--
Contraction of the sphincter and prostate force stored semen to be expelled through the penis's urethral opening. The process takes from three to ten seconds, and produces a warm and highly pleasurable feeling
I wich i could have such a long orgasm as well
BL
Angus Magee
10-04-09, 08:55
I wich i could have such a long orgasm as well
BL
It is quite possible for men to have extended orgasm but they are of a very different nature than what we usually think of as orgasm. I myself have had an orgasm lasting 15-20 minutes. This was not while having sex though but at the end of a long tantric massage and there was no ejaculation involved.
Ejaculation and orgasm in men are actually two separate events that happen so often together that we tend to think that are the same thing. That is when you orgasm, you ejaculate.
In fact the ejaculation is a physical manifestation of an energy that builds in your body. Using certain techniques you can learn to keep the energy circulating and the jism in your balls. But then the orgasm can still happen.
As I say it is a very different orgasm with none of the contraction experienced in a "normal" orgasm and a different kind of intensity.
I am not saying that this is the type of "O" that Booner experienced-obviously it seems that he also ejaculated-but that sometimes when you have a particularly good fuck, with a girl who helps you to control things a bit, you can get a taste of this extended, non-ejaculatory "O"in a regular fuck session.
If you are interested you can google "tantric massage" and explore. But I have to say it ain't that easy as it challenges you to see and then drop all the preconditions most people have about sex and sexuality.
The old adage covers the situation, like so much whether it is in the mind or not, clearly our reporter and member enjoyed himself to the max !!
Hi
Did you really had orgasm over 30 seconds !!
You must be a superman
If you read about the male orgasm in wikipedeia it says--
Contraction of the sphincter and prostate force stored semen to be expelled through the penis's urethral opening. The process takes from three to ten seconds, and produces a warm and highly pleasurable feeling
I wich i could have such a long orgasm as well
BL
The old adage covers the situation, like so much whether it is in the mind or not, clearly our reporter and member enjoyed himself to the max !!
Excellent.
Hi
Did you really had orgasm over 30 seconds !!
You must be a superman
If you read about the male orgasm in wikipedeia it says--
Contraction of the sphincter and prostate force stored semen to be expelled through the penis's urethral opening. The process takes from three to ten seconds, and produces a warm and highly pleasurable feeling
I wich i could have such a long orgasm as well
BL
Hi,
Did you really had orgasm over 30 seconds !!
You must be a superman
If you read about the male orgasm in wikipedeia it says--
Contraction of the sphincter and prostate force stored semen to be expelled through the penis's urethral opening. The process takes from three to ten seconds, and produces a warm and highly pleasurable feeling
I wich i could have such a long orgasm as well
BLHi again!
Buttman! Try for yourself. When you are about to come. Stop for 1-3 seconds and continue just until it gets to nice. Stop for 1-3 sec and so on. (When you stop, you will feel the orgasm tingling away. And when its gone start over to pound)
Usually I can go on like this for 2-3 times (10-15 sec) before it gets to nice to stop. But in this case I was so tired in my arms that it did it naturally for over 30 sec.
Tipping is not a normal action from my side, but this was two special moments for me "my best sex-day in life" and I have been with quite a few girls, mostly non prostitutes.
Gentlemen,
I would appreciate your advice.
I have a trip with a stop in Frankfurt for one night.
Will arrive around 7pm on Sunday and leave Monday morning.
I need advice wether it is a good idea to visit the Palace on a Sunday night.
I read a report in the Forum saying that it was empty (not many girls) on a Sunday, but that report was in August. I guess a Sunday in November could be better in terms of girls available?
Or for a Sunday a visit to OASE is better?
I would appreciate your advice
Thanks a lot in advance for your help
Greetings
Prefer Oase myself dude... but just personal preference! Either club, no matter how bad, is gotta be better than waiting around an airport!
Gentlemen,
I would appreciate your advice.
I have a trip with a stop in Frankfurt for one night.
Will arrive around 7pm on Sunday and leave Monday morning.
I need advice wether it is a good idea to visit the Palace on a Sunday night.
Or for a Sunday a visit to OASE is better?
Asia Tourist
10-07-09, 02:00
Another successful trip. I really like Palace. To each his own, but (a) it's close and easy to get to, (b) the staff is professional and seem like they give a shit about what's going on. I. E. The desk lady always asks if things were good, the cleaning staff is on top of things (very clean throughout the club), and the bartenders are great, (c) lineups are reasonably good. I'm lazy so I went to Palace two nights in a row:
Summary. Night 1
Girl 1: Sarah, German, 25ish, good English, very blonde, natural large B/small C rack. She found me, made good eye contact, and we clicked; she had a small piercing which I wasn't a huge fan but it wasn't a big deal. Tried something new. Since her English was good, I asked her what she wanted to do (mentally capped at 150€), she said "full service, cum in mouth" so I happily obliged. Sarah had great BBBJ skills, good tight body, might be a bit too blonde for some but it seemed pretty natural, and just had a good general disposition. I didn't tell her I had a week's worth of cum in my balls, but she took it like a champ; I was impressed and pretty happy with the first pick. (Recommendation: if you're into this, obviously do the cim on the first go). Damage: 100€ + 20€ tip. Guys, I hear people on the tipping thing and I'm not an idiot tourist/newbie, but she was very good guys.
Girl 2: Angelina, Czech, 24ish, mediocre English, pigtail blonde, pink outfit, slightly saggy C-ish rack but natural. My god, this girl was right up my alley. She wore these pink fishnet stockings, the standard-issue stripper heels, and some pink hand-warmers with pig-tails. Be warned, she might not be every person's cup of tea. Very petite, no real curves, almost a spinner type and with large (for her size), slightly saggy tits but they were natural which I love. Excellent BBBJ, I was a bit disappointed with myself because I wasn't able to control myself doing her doggy, hearing her moan, and looking at her getting rammed in the mirror. It didn't last long enough, and there was a bit of a language barrier, but overall this was super satisfying. Damage: 50€ + 10€ tip. (See disclaimer above on the whole tipping thing.)
Girl 3: Gina, Czech, 26ish, good English, blonde, Cish rack, mentioned a lot here. I don't need to go into more detail since Gina's been covered quite a bit. Overall very friendly, great personality, good English. For those who like girls with a little bit of meat on the bones (not "fat" at all, some curves.), you will prefer Gina to someone like, say, Angelina above. Damage: 50€ + 10€ tip. (See disclaimer above on the whole tipping thing.)
Girl 4: ? (damn forgot name), Croatian, 26ish, mediocre English, dark blonde, natural Cish rack. This girl claims she was new, 6th day on the job, and I believe her. Reasons: she didn't know anyone, didn't know where the rooms were (haha, after picking up a key it took us three tries to find the room), and was genuinely "fresh." I forgot her name. Sorry. But don't worry, I don't think there are many girls from Croatia. She has a very cute face, a bit taller/bigger than the other girls, and had just a cheerful attitude. Good BBBJ, not the best, but let me do what I damn pleased. Liked to kiss, smelled good, DATY, overall a solid performer. I was definitely drawn to the "freshness" factor of a new girl, so I recommend you guys ravage this while you still can and before it gets cynical. Yes, that's a mean comment and I'm generalizing, but I think you guys know what I mean. Damage: 50€ + 10€ tip. (See disclaimer above on the whole tipping thing.)
Summary. Night 2
Wasn't surprised that the girls from the previous night wanted to go immediately after they saw me, but I kindly declined and said I wanted to try some different girls. At this point I've figured out some of the dynamics: Sarah and Gina are definitely friends. I also find out Sarah's not a fan of Angelina ("she looks like a mouse and has no hair". Haha, really! ), but Angelina has her own little posse with another very hot blonde Czech girl. Anyways, Sarah introduces me to her fellow German:
Girl 1: Vanessa, Germany, 26ish, great English, brunette, huge, bubbly fake C/D rack. Pulled back brown hair, sculpted eyebrows, huge bolt-ons, big tats all over the back (so beware if you don't like that), but a great outfit. Great BBBJ and a great fuck. Had to slow down doggy style because she's got a great body. Blew the load in her mouth.comment: she was even more aggressive taking it in than Sarah. I had a smaller load of course given it was not even 24 hours, but she kept slurping and pumping until I nearly fell over. Overall I'd have to rate her session the best so far. Damage: 100€ + 20€ tip, the BBBJCIM on the first session is definitely the way to go.
Girl 2: Angelina (repeat from previous day). When she walked in with the same cute outfit, I had to do it again. Yeah, I was breaking my own "rule" for the evening, but Angelina's just completely up my alley. It was very good the second time around too but she was a bit out-of-it, saying she only got a couple hours of sleep the previous night.
Girl 3: Michelle, Malaysian/Swedish, 24ish. Can't miss this girl because she's Asian and unique. The other two Asians I saw roaming the club were just awful (one weirdly fat which looked strange since Asians are generally so petite, and the other one had a face like a dog). But Michelle is an unusual mix and she has stunning facial features. Be warned, she doesn't seem as experienced in the bedroom dept. So get ready to take charge, and her clingy partner/friend is not attractive at all so you have to slash through the annoying "take us both" routine.
Girl 4: Sarah (repeat from previous day). Haha, at this point Sarah gets pissed because she saw me repeat Angelina after hearing that I wanted to try fresh meat. Of course I know it's an act, and it's cute, and she looks great so what the hell? I'll definitely say round 2 with Sarah was much better because she was much more relaxed and playful. Great BBBJ but I didn't have enough ammo to cim again so just a normal session.
Overall, really enjoyed the Palace. Best session: Vanessa. Worst session: damn, they were all good but probably Angelina second time around but she seemed genuinely tired. My new lessons: (a) I'm really diggin' the BBBJCIM on the first session, (b) avoid the take-us-both routine, slash through all that bs, (c) starting to become a fan of the repeat sessions.
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Prefer Oase myself dude... but just personal preference! Either club, no matter how bad, is gotta be better than waiting around an airport!Captain,
Thanks for your answer and your comments,
I understand from reading the Forum that Palace and Oase have both their supporters, and it is a matter of personal choice.
I was asking for advice mainly trying to find out if there was an important difference between both on Sunday nights, since I would think it might be one of the slowest days. But if both clubs keep their normal "balance" at a Sunday night, then I think I will just toss a coin or something to decide.
If some forum member is planning to be in Palace or Oase nov. 8th, and do not mind joining a mid-30s Fkk first-timer, please let me know to make plans.
Greetings
Rahulworks
10-09-09, 01:42
Bolman,
I might be in Frankfurt for 2 days around 1st week of Nov for mongering, not sure on the dates yet. If I am there on the 8th, I will surely like to join you. It will be my first FKK experience as well. I am thinking of doing both Palace and Oase during my 2 days there.
RW
Captain,
Thanks for your answer and your comments,
I understand from reading the Forum that Palace and Oase have both their supporters, and it is a matter of personal choice.
I was asking for advice mainly trying to find out if there was an important difference between both on Sunday nights, since I would think it might be one of the slowest days. But if both clubs keep their normal "balance" at a Sunday night, then I think I will just toss a coin or something to decide.
If some forum member is planning to be in Palace or Oase nov. 8th, and do not mind joining a mid-30s Fkk first-timer, please let me know to make plans.
Greetings
Hy, my friends,
during IAA I was in Palace and had a great secian with a romanian girl ( Saskia ? )which gave a superblowjob in the cinema. Later strolling around I met a known chick for me from Brasil. I do not remember her name, ( I had a 1 hour party in the room with all I dream about, GFS;kissing, 69,anal) and she is really hot, even from the looking. ( 1,70cm,half long brown hair,not tatoo,ab. c breasts , half ok german). I like somehow the latinas for their female power,the eastern ( Tschech,Croat,Romanian ) are somehow ,how shall I call it, more devote ? Or is this only my personal feeling ? What do you guys think about brasilians and does one of you had experiance with any of those sambaqueens ? Some guys told me there, brasilians are more agresssive in money than eastern, I do not think so about, but I m not so expert.
Cheers Chaps.
I'm coming in February on the way to Moscow.
Are numbers of girls and quality down in winter, February?
Would that be a fair assesment, as they may move to warmer climates.
Also do they wear lingerie at all, i like lingerie )
even in winter.
Cheers Nickc
Cheers Guys
I recall reading posts where FKK girls admitted reading WSG, and you can be damn sure there writing there own posts as well. I am a little suspicious of some of these RLD (red light district) posts being so critical of them, often ending with "better go to FKK instead".
Cheers Nickc
Cheers Guys
I recall reading posts where FKK girls admitted reading WSG, and you can be damn sure there writing there own posts as well. I am a little suspicious of some of these RLD (red light district) posts being so critical of them, often ending with "better go to FKK instead".
Cheers NickcTo be honest Nick, no-one in their right mind would go to the Frankfurt RLD rather than an FKK. I guess you've done neither,, or you wouldn't be asking the question. So, my advice to you is to go and have a look round the RLD. And then set aside a day to relax in a decent FKK. There is really no comparison.
Brothers.
Will try to do this in five parts, first four covering morning and afternoon of each day and last some general comments. May be my swan song. After 30 years of mongering in US, Canada, Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, Brazil and Europe, with travel courtesy of my employers, I will retire next year and may not have another chance to visit an FKK. So I offer this by way of thanks to those who have provided such invaluable advice that enabled me to find and fully enjoy these marvelous places.
Arrived in FRA at noon on Friday, after 10 hour flight, including 8.5 hours of Ambien induced sleep. Had worked out and eaten well for a month prior to trip so arrived rested and ready. Took Cialis 12 hours before leaving and again on arrival so that department was covered. No sign of flu on the flight.
Took S8 and U6/7 to Industriehof. Advise anybody planning more than one visit to use public transit. Takes a bit of learning but once you do is easy, convenient, cheaper and almost as fast as a taxi.
Checked into Flemings hotel in a room that was spitting distance from Palace. Aware that Ibis is cheaper, but love the Fleming efficiency, cleanliness and proximity to Palace. Always a beautiful recptionist who much be aware why so many single men register for one night. LIke it close by so I can take a break in the middle of a 10-12 hour visit to get a hot shower, make phone calls and rest up away from the girls and the noise.
Showered, shaved, including some private parts, put on some cologne and walked short distance to Palace, arriving about 2 p.m. Brought my own sandals as I dont like the style of flip flops they offer there.
Very mellow afternoon atmosphere. Maybe 20 girls and about same number of guys. Girls all nekkid, as I remembered and prefer. Donned a towel. Why use a robe? When some hot chick wants to rub her tits over you why make it difficult?
Toured the place and settled in the Kino where I quickly joined by
EVA from Greece, curvey blonde, DD tits and dirtly blonde hair. Very gentle and mellow with BBBJ started in Kino and finished with a facial in the room. Great start to the trip and 100 Euro gone. Should probably say here that I grew up in the era when Playboy magazine was the only educational material about a subjedct we all think about at least once every waking hour of every day for the rest of our lives. So while I like all types of good looking women I was kind of conditioned to prefer the centerfold type: blonde with a build that my friend describes as "two cantalopes on a popsicle stick".
Showered, rested and snoozed in the relax room near the pool behind the big bar. Nice addition so you can rest up but still see some of the parade.
Back to Kino where I soon was accosted by
GEORGIANNA, from EE, D cup, slender. Previewed BBBJ in Kino to delight of audience. Offered anal, but didn't push it. Only one of hte 14 girls I sesioned wiht did a hard upsell. About half of the others mentioned the sevices they offered in an informational, not sales, way. Rest just didnt say. Off to zimmer. Mechanical but satisfactory session. Didnt complete. 50 Euro.
Again another shower and rest and back to the fray. Stopped on a tour of the main room by a hot blonde:
JANITA who led me into the kino. Blonde, big fake tits, from Bulgaria as I recall. Very friendly and enthusiastic. After tryout in the Kino off to the room for a BBBJTCCIM and a bit of a facial.
By this time it was about 6 p.m. and I left for Flemings to rest, make phone calls and take a hot shower (biggest drawback of Palace is short duration and cold water in showers).
Second half of hte day to follow
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Back to Palace from Flemings about 7:30 pm Nice that the Frauen at the check-in allow you to leave and come back without paying again. Just have to show them your passport. Arrived just on the heels of two guys in leather coats who identified themselves to the desk as police. Frau who appeared to be the manger hurried out to greet them with great deference and offered to let them look around. By the time I had changed and secured a locker they were gone. Seemed routine and regular occurrance. If it had been a raid I doubt they would have come with only two guys.
Had some dinner, a kind of pork stew on noodles with salad, in the new restaurant. Another great addition since I was last there. Keeps the food out of the main hall and allows interaction with the girls at the long tables. I was joined by a knockout blonde who introduced herself as Kelly from Lithuania. Dazzling smile. Said she worked there two weeks every few months to make enough money to live well back home.
Finished and relaxed again for an hour to let dinner settle and went back to Kino. I like the Kino because I enjoy watching the live shows as well as the movies and feel that if I am going to benefit from somebody else's show I should provide some of my own as well. Also allows you to preview the talents of the various young ladies.
I fended off a few who did not appeal. This should be done in a firm but polite manner, with some excuse such as I just ate or just had a session and need to rest up but maybe see you later. Fine to allow them to make a pitch and feel you up fora few minutes, but don't waste their time or yours if you don't intend to go any further.
Moved down to the bed just to the right of the door when a young lady appeared before me. Couldn't see her in the movie light, so asked her name. "It's Kelly, " she laughed. "We just had dinner." She sat down beside me and soon found that I was ready to go again. Great deep throat, first in Kino and then in zimmer. Particularly liked when she kneeled in front and I could put my hand below her chin and feel me going all the way down her throat. Lots of spitting with BJ and dirty talk and muliple positions with the sex. Smiling and enthusiasm as she took the CIF lying on her side facing my mind sectoin. 100 Euro. Worth every cent. Would repeat with her on next visit.
Then, there she was, the queen of the Palace: Angelina, in her usual post at the rail by the bar with her huge tits hanging down. She didn't seem to approach anybody, so I went up and said hello. Was that my mistake? She seemed cold. We exchanged names and I asked if she wanted to come sit with me. No, she said. I am fine here. OK, so I left. Too bad. I had done research and had her on my list. But seemed that the rest of time I was there, while she was busy, it was always the guy who instigated the conversation and after 15 seconds of talk, off they would go to the room. I like a little chit chat and prefer to be able to squeeze the fruit a bit before I buy.
Oh well, there were plenty of other fish in the sea, starting with:
MANUALLA, from Columbia, dirty blonde with slightly chunky build and D cups. Met her in Kino. Great kisser with full tongue action. Another part timer who comes three or four times a year to supplement regular inocme as a sales person for a computer company. What a world. Great BBBJ with deep throat, eye contact and lots of moaning and dirty talk in Spanish and English. Finished with another CIM and she offered a full body massge at no extra cost. 100 Euros.
Shower, a snack, and another snooze. Figured I mgiht well be done for the day. It was well past midnight. Took another stop in the Kino where was met by
NATASHA, small brested blonde with light brown hair who said she was from Hungary. Called me Darling in a Boris and Natasha accent. Told her I mgiht be all done, but her hands proved otherwise. Soon was enjoying a full deep throat expreience in front of all the audience in the Kino. She asked if I wanted to finish there or in a room. Looked for room but all were full. So opted for the curtained cubes near the VIP Room What is up with that? Who needs it? Miss when it was a kind of voyeur-partcipant room open to all and you could be fucking a chick while watching two or three other couples gong at it.
Natash's deep throat was so compelling that I jut let her go for the next 20 minutes, finally finishing in her mouth. 100 Eruos.
Off to Flemings about 2 am For five hours sleep before heading back to airport. Will report on Oct. 7 visit in next section.
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back to fra on oct. 7, arriving about noon. trains to industriehof, check in to flemings. shower, shave, over to palace by about 2pm consider that it is likely to be my last day in an fkk. well prepared with cialis.
it is the dreaded dessous tag and i am wary, prepared to hop in a cab, perhaps with others, to head to oase if i have to dig through too many petticoats and corsets.
but on arrival find situation normal. nearly all the girls are in their birthday suits. decorations are going up at a fever pace in preparation for oktoberfest, set to start that evening at 8 pm
take a tour. about 20 girls and maybe a dozen guys. sleepy and relazed. settle in the kino and am joined by
gena (i think) from koln. brown hair with blonde highlights, d cup bolt ons, a bit chunky, but very nice. started with the bbbj in kino and moved to room where we finished with sex and a cim. not the best, not the worst. later observed she was moving them thru pretty quick. so no doubt a processor, but not overly obnoxious, at least with me. fine start to the day. 100 euro.
shower, some bread and cheese, more grapefruit juice. relaxed in the lounge by the pool and back to the fray, sittingn for a while in the main room and then wandering a bit before entering the kino where i rean into:
jules from poland. tall, with nice fake d cups and blonde hair. but turned me off a bit when she used handy wipes to wash me off before beginning a very pedestrian bbbj in the kino. off to zimmer where we went through paces without much enthusiasm. rejected offers of cim and anal. 50 euro.
same deal with rest and shower and back to kino. in walks a black haired beauty in a full, see through lace dress with nothing underneath. nice c/d cups. natural. makes eye contact and with my encouragment comes over. i had seen her perfomng previously in the kino and was impressed she sat down and introduced herself as
tamara from venezuala. almost no english and i had no spanish. went right for the bbbj and performed commendably. adjourned to room where we had a great time fucking with lots of moaning and even a fake orgasm, tho with a genuine red face. 50 euro.
said no to a bunch of approaches: sakira, natasha (tho i had had a great time with her on friday) and vicky from russia.
met a couple of fellow north americans in the relax lounge by the pool. one a rookie from vancouver who had discovered the isg web site while auditing personal use of computers on company time. warned me not to do anyting on my company computer that could invite a virus. first time in an fkk and was a bit blown away, as we all were when we first entered these halls. second guiy was from miami and had been several times before. we traded stories, agreed that the bigger fkks were better than the smaller sauna clubs at least for tourists and they listened to my lecrure on the virtues of cialis. also met up wtth fellow isger who had pmd a week earlier. from toronto and gave valuable info on strip clubs in canada (recommending montreal).
things were beginning to pick up. beer began to flow from a keg right next to the money lockers. girls began to show up in costume, tho nearly half stayed mostly naked.
sarted to feel a lilttle anxious again and heaaded back to kino now occupied by about 20 mongers and maybe three or four ladies providing various services. just as i had settled in a young lady dressed as a school girl **** bursts into the kino, stands in the middle and proclaims "i am a virgin schoolgirl and need somebody to help take my virginity."
she is:
alana, from israel, dark hair, fake c cups, slender and short, but full of fire and energy and good humor. she struts around a bit more asking for somebody to take her "virginity" and plunks down right on top of me. sure, i will play along. "ok to suck you" she whispers in my ear. sure i reply. by now we have the attention of the whole room and she announces that i will take her virginity. she sucks like a champ and then asks if i want to fuck her in the ass. who am i to say no. she flilps over into doggies position, grabs my dick and rams it into her butt, announcing to the entire room that she is now about to surrender her anal virginity. i pound her for about 10 minutes to the delight of the crowd. when i finish and we both sit up, we get a round of applause from everybody. as i walk wiht her to the lockers she says "i am a good actressno? maybe go to hollywood? " 150 euros and worth every darn cent.
need a major break here and head back to flemings for hour of r and r.
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Back to Palace about 8:30. The Oktoberfest party was in full swing. Loud music, balloons and decorations all over the place. But didn't seem to change much in terms of what was going on. About 75 girls, including some I had seen on my trip the prvious Friday, and maybe 100 guys. About half nude, most of the rest topless or in see through garb. Angelina was at her post, naked except for pink stockings (is that an Oktoberfest tradition? ). Had some dinner (Bavarian theme) with the guys from North America and learned that one had had a good experience with:
SIMONA, a very slender, blonde wiht nice enhanced D cups, from the Czech republic wearing a white bra and panty outfit. She seemed a bit shy when I sat down next to her on one of the couches by the pool. But we chatted, she kissed and grabbed for the right appendages. In the room she was very sweet and very hot. Unfortunately the room was also very hot and I had begun to sweat more than I cared for. But she performed like a champ and earned her CIM. 100 Euro.
Getting to the end of what I figured might be my last day, so resolved to make it a good time. But was foiled when I was accosted in the Kino by
ANNA from Germany. A large chested gal wearing the traditoinal german dress from which her boobs protruded. Let my instincts lapse. She started a BJ and then immediately started an aggressive upsell. But by then I was hooked. Went to a room which was again overheated. She asked if I wanted specials. I asked what they were, she ponted to the signs on the wall. When I said it would stick to normal, she got very sour. Sucked me lackluster and assumed the doggie. I didn't finish and went to pay up. 50 Euro. Only really bad experience in 14 attempts over two full days.
Returned to Janita and Kelly for my last experiences. Both were fabulous as on Friday. Asked Kelly if she had ever done a gangabang. She said she had just done one a few days before with "four boys." They didn't finissh, she said, but they had all had a wondeful time with much laughter and joking in the room. When she approached me in the Kino about 1 am I told her I had already done all I could, but she persuaded me to give it another try. She gave it all she had, but couldn't make me finish. "You are a sex machine, " she smiled. "Maybe", I said, "but right now I am out of gas."
Back to Flemings and to bed. A few final thoughts in next, and last installment.
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Final thoughts:
I have been all over the world for 30 years, and in my opinon this is the very best experience I hav ever had. Don't have much of an opinoin in the Oase v World v Palace debate. It is like difference between steak sauce and barbeque sauce. Both are good. Soem folks perfer one, some like the other. All big three FKKs are clean, comfortable, efficient, with plenty of food and drink and fabulous women. 90 percent of them would fit right in at a party at the Playboy manion and 10 percent are certifiable centefold material. Sure some are cheery and others cold, and a few try to upsell. But what ever happened, as Reagan said, to just saying no?
A wrod to the Americans. Relax, get with the local customs. Sample beforre buying. In the US you are used to going to the supermarket, picking out what you want and then paying the cashier who really doesn't care or even know what you buy. Very mechanical and impersonal. In Europe you go to a market, squeeze the fruit, chat with the vendors, listen to the pitches, maybe try a sample before buying anything. Same with the FKK. Learn to shop European style.
Food. I have heard the complaints. Both in the FKK and on the boards. Stop whining. The food is perfectly adequate and if you want more just leave for a while.
Dessous tag. Not as much of a problem as I had expected. Most were naked except for stockings and/or garters and most of those with clothes wore outfits like a 6 inch micro dress with no underwear. A few had full bikini regalia. But didn't bother me.
Robe or towel. Go with the towel. If a stunning girl wants to rub her breasts over your chest or back, why discourage her? And the robes have a nasty habit of falling open, particularly if you are a bit heavy in the gut.
Kino. I love it. Both watching and partcipating. Nothing like it I have ever seen. If you want to be assulated, this is the place to do it. And if you want to get a preview of what a particular girl might be like, you can get it here. If you want to rest undisturbed, the relax room is for that. I particularly love the Kino late at night when the old men lounge in the upper tiers like big old walruses on the rocks on the Aleutian islands and the girls come up and try to get them going.
Smoking. Glad to have a smoke free environment. Sorry to see the two rooms penned off for smokers.
Showers. Still the biggest problem. Need to run longer and need HOT WATER.
Restaurant. Big improvement over serving in the room with the small bar. Keeps the food out of the play areas and allows the mongers to mingle socially with the talent at the long dinner tables and to meet other mongers. Met a great guy from Italy there for the first time wth a bunch of buddies. They cavorted in the pool, laughing and trading jokes with each other and the girls, and frequently swapped girls. Also met a wonderful gent from Norway who comes once every couple of months. Wish I could do that.
Enjoy it. Will be thinking of you all. Cheers. Kahului
Well I will be attending the palace in about 2.5 weeks. I am petty excited! Right now I am living in hessen for work so it's a treat. I am only 26 is that a normal age? Thanks for the advice I will post when this FKK virgin plans on going for certain.
First I want to say thanks to everyone here, your information was invaluable to me since I first decided to sample the FKK scene over a year ago. But I know the only real way to say thanks is to post reports which I intend to do, starting with my next trip in a few weeks time
Well I will be attending the palace in about 2.5 weeks. I am petty excited! Right now I am living in hessen for work so it's a treat. I am only 26 is that a normal age? Thanks for the advice I will post when this FKK virgin plans on going for certain.I wouldnt worry about your age. I doubt you will care when you are surrounded by beautiful naked women. Sure you will be one of the younger men there but probably not the only one. I too am 26 and have never felt out of place once I step inside the palace doors.
And I will be at Palace in 2.5 weeks also
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 22:04
Final thoughts:
I have been all over the world for 30 years, and in my opinon this is the very best experience I hav ever had. Don't have much of an opinoin in the Oase v World v Palace debate. It is like difference between steak sauce and barbeque sauce. Both are good. Soem folks perfer one, some like the other. All big three FKKs are clean, comfortable, efficient, with plenty of food and drink and fabulous women. 90 percent of them would fit right in at a party at the Playboy manion and 10 percent are certifiable centefold material. Sure some are cheery and others cold, and a few try to upsell. But what ever happened, as Reagan said, to just saying no?
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Showers. Still the biggest problem. Need to run longer and need HOT WATER.
<cut>Kahului
Great attitude you have to find your enjoyment and ignore all the non-enjoyable things.
I believe the showers on the right side work most of the time fine after just a few seconds (unless you are first for the day). Rarely any problem. O.K. the left side is no good.
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 22:10
To be honest Nick, no-one in their right mind would go to the Frankfurt RLD rather than an FKK. I guess you've done neither,, or you wouldn't be asking the question. So, my advice to you is to go and have a look round the RLD. And then set aside a day to relax in a decent FKK. There is really no comparison.
Couldn't agree more. Try FKK first. Then when you go the the RLD, you will realise what shit it is for the most part, apart from a few diamonds in the rough. Riddled with ladyboys too!
RLD is probably for those looking for a 10 minute quickie!
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 22:20
Hy, my friends,
during IAA I was in Palace and had a great secian with a romanian girl ( Saskia ? )which gave a superblowjob in the cinema. Later strolling around I met a known chick for me from Brasil. I do not remember her name, ( I had a 1 hour party in the room with all I dream about, GFS;kissing, 69,anal) and she is really hot, even from the looking. ( 1,70cm,half long brown hair,not tatoo,ab. c breasts , half ok german). I like somehow the latinas for their female power,the eastern ( Tschech,Croat,Romanian ) are somehow ,how shall I call it, more devote ? Or is this only my personal feeling ? What do you guys think about brasilians and does one of you had experiance with any of those sambaqueens ? Some guys told me there, brasilians are more agresssive in money than eastern, I do not think so about, but I m not so expert.
I find that have a greater probability of a really fun time with Latin girls, Asian Girls, and even black girls, than with European girls. There are still plenty of great European girls though. My least preferred choice for a girl would be from my home country, followed by UK and the USA (but latin/asian/blacks excepted).
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 22:24
Cheers Chaps.
I'm coming in February on the way to Moscow.
Are numbers of girls and quality down in winter, February?
Would that be a fair assesment, as they may move to warmer climates.
Cheers Nickc
In a word, no! Feb was fine.
Can always find girls wearing underwear. Most guys prefer the lack of it though.
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 22:33
Another successful trip. I really like Palace. To each his own, but (a) it's close and easy to get to, (b) the staff is professional and seem like they give a shit about what's going on. I. E. The desk lady always asks if things were good, the cleaning staff is on top of things (very clean throughout the club), and the bartenders are great, (c) lineups are reasonably good. I'm lazy so I went to Palace two nights in a row:
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Overall, really enjoyed the Palace. Best session: Vanessa. Worst session: damn, they were all good but probably Angelina second time around but she seemed genuinely tired. My new lessons: (a) I'm really diggin' the BBBJCIM on the first session, (b) avoid the take-us-both routine, slash through all that bs, (c) starting to become a fan of the repeat sessions.
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Great report. Superb summary and indicates that can have a good time even with girls that seem like processors.
Did you go full 30 mins with many of these girls or were they just to skilled/hot for you last that long? I ask this because I'm rather slow to make it.
Hello Hello
In REPLY to PLOVER23 and MP LURKER
Cheers for your point of view.
I’m not so sure about your comment that
“no-one in their right mind would go to the Frankfurt RLD rather than an FKK”.
Read an interesting report by ‘Thebigman’ and you may see a little differently.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462358&postcount=601
He closes with the interesting remark
“Bored of the FKKs and all the money-grabbing EEs that they contain, I found the RLD to be if I'm honest far more fun and of course a lot better value. i'm into the conversational side of things and have a laugh and joke with all the girls. I'm definately going back - I advise you to do the same!”
And that’s my point, there is another point of view out there.
Cheers for replys
Nickc
Hello Hello
In REPLY to PLOVER23 and MP LURKER
Cheers for your point of view.
I’m not so sure about your comment that
“no-one in their right mind would go to the Frankfurt RLD rather than an FKK”.
Read an interesting report by ‘Thebigman’ and you may see a little differently.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462358&postcount=601
He closes with the interesting remark
“Bored of the FKKs and all the money-grabbing EEs that they contain, I found the RLD to be if I'm honest far more fun and of course a lot better value. i'm into the conversational side of things and have a laugh and joke with all the girls. I'm definately going back - I advise you to do the same!”
And that’s my point, there is another point of view out there.
Cheers for replys
Nickc
Another point of view? Yes, there will always be one guy who insists the world is flat, when the rest of us know otherwise. Really, the RLD is several rungs below FKKs from many perspectives. Only if you are strapped for cash, and cannot even afford the FKK entry fee should you consider the RLD. And if you still doubt, consider the old addage: You get what you pay for. Do you really think you are going to get a satisfying sexual experience for 25E/pop?
Go walk through (or rather up/down) the RLD and take a look. It doesn't cost you to look....
Ortos
I was looking through the ladies pictures and I noticed #86 she has an awesome body. Not sure of the face with the huge glasses on though. Anyone know who she is or if she is still there?
I may hit up the Palace next Saturday.
Hello Hello
In REPLY to PLOVER23 and MP LURKER
Cheers for your point of view.
I’m not so sure about your comment that
“no-one in their right mind would go to the Frankfurt RLD rather than an FKK”.
Read an interesting report by ‘Thebigman’ and you may see a little differently.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462358&postcount=601
He closes with the interesting remark
“Bored of the FKKs and all the money-grabbing EEs that they contain, I found the RLD to be if I'm honest far more fun and of course a lot better value. i'm into the conversational side of things and have a laugh and joke with all the girls. I'm definately going back - I advise you to do the same!”
And that’s my point, there is another point of view out there.
Cheers for replys
NickcI would agree, I have had some stonking FKK level PSE sessions with some Thais in the RLD, without having to pay extra for CIM ,anal etc ,whereas one has to with the Palace's sharks.
Bunglebush
10-14-09, 14:28
Hi,
I'm going to Germany just for the FKKs there. I can go any day of the week. But would like to got when they are the most girls of good quality and time also. Is it better to go on the weekend and at night or day?
Asia Tourist
10-15-09, 02:52
Great report. Superb summary and indicates that can have a good time even with girls that seem like processors.
Did you go full 30 mins with many of these girls or were they just to skilled/hot for you last that long? I ask this because I'm rather slow to make it.I think of myself as a pretty "average" person in terms of lasting, even though I'd have no idea. My sessions were definitely <30 minutes. Probably in the 20 minute territory. I mean, these girls are pretty hot, and once I see myself jamming them in the mirror (esp. With the better actresses who moan and grind), I usually lose it. Haha, sometimes I found myself thinking of unpleasant images just to regain control. And then we'd start all back over again.
Can't wait to get back to Frankfurt!
hello hello Ortos
Thanks for reply.
I quite agree with your comment, "you do get what you pay for" -sometimes.
From reports i've read poor service does sometimes even exist at FKK's.
Excuse me, I guess what i've been boringly trying to understand is why so many reports are almost antagonistic about the RLD area, it appears to be quite apparent that it is th FKK's themselves writing many of the reports on this forum. Forgive me pointing this out. I guess its obvious to most anyway.
Kiwi 69 writes a report below that offers another point of view.
Anyway it appears both FKK and RLD are good to visit
Cheers again Nickc (another Kiwi)
P.S. the world is flat, or at least it is from where i'm standing.
hello hello Ortos
Thanks for reply.
I quite agree with your comment, "you do get what you pay for" -sometimes.
From reports i've read poor service does sometimes even exist at FKK's.
Excuse me, I guess what i've been boringly trying to understand is why so many reports are almost antagonistic about the RLD area, it appears to be quite apparent that it is th FKK's themselves writing many of the reports on this forum. Forgive me pointing this out. I guess its obvious to most anyway.
Kiwi 69 writes a report below that offers another point of view.
Anyway it appears both FKK and RLD are good to visit
Cheers again Nickc (another Kiwi)
P.S. the world is flat, or at least it is from where i'm standing.
I am not quite clear on what your point is in your 2nd paragraph: Are you saying that the majority of reports on the FKK thread are written and posted by managers and/or employees of FKK clubs? Hmm, I always suspected there was something special about that guy Basketcase, but I never realised he actually owned Oase! Thanks, that explains alot...
Sorry, seriously: I very much doubt any of the serious reporting done on this site is done by the FKK clubs themselves. Maybe from time to time a pimp makes a post, but that is extremely rare since most of them are so stupid they cannot even write, much less in intelligible English.
As for the main point: RLD vs FKKs. Sure everybody has their opinion. I think you should go to both venues yourself and make the choice. But I challenge you to have a night in the Frankfurt RLD and then compare that to a night in, say, FKK Oase. Then see which one you would go back to again and again.
Yes, you will end up spending far less in the RLD, but you might have horrid experiences. You cannot play the game much there, and stand a much, much greater chance of having the game played on you (i.e. being scammed or having the services offered misrepresented) by the girls. Look at this point: In the RLD you sometimes (often?) have only a minute or less to interview the girl at the door. You have so many constraints before you can really see/get to know what you are dealing with. Compare that to the FKK scenario, where you can sit with the girl naked on a couch or in a dark corner and feel her up a bit, get felt up, rub, carress, smell, taste, talk to your hearts content, and then even detatch if you see red flags or something you don't like. The ability to make well-considered choices and decisions about session partners is a major advantage to the FKK scenario vs the RLD. That is not even to mention the other factors: the looks of the girls, the facilities (just being able to take a shower before/after session is a great advantage), the lack of stairs, the security, the cleanliness (ooops, maybe not so great sometimes at Oase, but still), the voyeuerism, etc, etc...
I am not saying it is impossible to have a decent session in the RLD. I am saying it is a much higher order experience from many perspectives in the FKKs. But this is just my opinion, and yes you will spend more money in the FKKs. Go to both, look and then report back your findings. Maybe you can enlighten us that the world is indeed flat...
Ortos
Vito Corleone
10-15-09, 09:27
Hi,
I'm going to Germany just for the FKKs there. I can go any day of the week. But would like to got when they are the most girls of good quality and time also. Is it better to go on the weekend and at night or day?
All day Friday & Sat
I am not quite clear on what your point is in your 2nd paragraph: Are you saying that the majority of reports on the FKK thread are written and posted by managers and/or employees of FKK clubs? Hmm, I always suspected there was something special about that guy Basketcase, but I never realised he actually owned Oase! Thanks, that explains alot...
You didn't know that BC is Mauro's silent partner? Actually he's the brains and money behind the club while Mauro just provides the brawn. And they both audition the new providers :D
How do you think BC gets those detailed lists of his? He takes them directly from the employees registry.
LOL
Hi,
I´m planning my first trip to Palace in a few weeks.
I have never been their before and I was wondering if someone could help me with a some questons.
*When you meet a girl in the Kino and get a bbbj, would that considered to be included in the time you´re paying for? If you want lets say 30 min and you get a bj in kino for 10 min, does it mean you only have 20 min in the room later with the girl?
* Do most of the girls do CIM and bbbj?
Thanks for reply.
Regards Rajko
*When you meet a girl in the Kino and get a bbbj, would that considered to be included in the time you´re paying for? If you want lets say 30 min and you get a bj in kino for 10 min, does it mean you only have 20 min in the room later with the girl?
I usually do not do the kino thing so I may not be the best to respond to this, but it kind of depends on the girl. Some may and some may not count the kino time. For practical purposes and this being your first visit and all, my advice would be that you should assume it counts.
* Do most of the girls do CIM and bbbj?
You should always get BBBJ and most girls offer CIM as an extra (50 EUR)
Gents,
Sorry for the silly question but do the rooms (zimmer) at the Palace have doors that you close when you go with the lady, or is it open where others can see you in action?
It does not really matter but I was curious.
Gents,
Sorry for the silly question but do the rooms (zimmer) at the Palace have doors that you close when you go with the lady, or is it open where others can see you in action?
It does not really matter but I was curious.
Yes, all the rooms have doors to be closed (as far as I remember). It will be just you and the girl.
There used to be a couple of places behind the jacuzzi in the back of the main room where there were "love nests" with curtains (semi-private), but I think most of them (maybe all) were replaced by a smoking room. There was also a "TV-room" behind the jacuzzi with space for 3- 4 couples (semi-private/semi-public), but does it still exist?
Those looking for full public action should be searching for the kino.
Palace is not known to have public action in the main room (you will be disappointed if you expect this), but it does happen occasionally. If important to you, simply ask a girl if she is up for it.
Hessen Bub
10-17-09, 18:07
at the Palace have doors that you close when you go with the lady, or is it open where others can see you in action?
You can leave the door open if you want.
HB
I'm beginning to suspect that the uneven experiences with girls' attitude at the Palace really reflects a dual approach by the girls toward German "regulars" and foriegn "tourists".
Let me say first, that I have no problem with a bit of "upselling". For pity's sake, the guy who sells me my suits also always tries to make me buy extra pants, a couple of shirts and a tie in the process. However, I don't like it when the girls make a good service conditional on extra payments that were not in the original agreement. That has happened to me a few times in the Palace "Ach, so viel Stress fuer 50 Euros...!?" It almost always happened with German girls; EE girls might beg me to buy their anal extras, but when I say no they shrug their shoulders and get on with the job. In consequence, I have dropped the German providers entirely to concentrate mostly of FSU girls who, in my previous experience, never cheat.
Now I read that some of our fellow posters have had the same experience with EE girls. I also read that these posters generally speak English with the girls, and that... made the penny drop. You see, I speak German fluently. No provider from Poland, Ukraine or Russia will suspect for a second that I'm not a local guy. But the German girls hear it instantly. So... voila, the EE girls treat me as a "regular", whereas the German girls treat me as a "bloody tourist". :)
Reply to ORTOS
Nope, i never said the majority of reports on the FKK thread are written and posted by managers and/or employees of FKK clubs. But some girls admitted reading and writing on this forum, but thats natural i guess.
You do a good sales pitch for FKK, thanks. They should pay you.
Thanks for your warnings of 'Horrid experiences' in RLD.
Seems like a few posts quite like the RLD, but at the end of the day i guess its all just a personal thing.
Thanks again
Cheers Nickc
Excuse my second reply.
I know this question has been covered repeatedly but from your point of view if i was to go only 2 of the 3 FKK clubs (palace, world, Oase) which 2 would you recommend. Transportation is not an issue. Its fine not detail why, but just which 2? Cheers again Nickc
Yes, you will end up spending far less in the RLD, but you might have horrid experiences. You cannot play the game much there, and stand a much, much greater chance of having the game played on you (i.e. being scammed or having the services offered misrepresented) by the girls. Look at this point: In the RLD you sometimes (often?) have only a minute or less to interview the girl at the door.
Ortos, it's a bit like comparing Ryanair and Air France. AF lets you pay through the nose (especially if you fly out of Paris...) but boast Club Classes with sleeper seats only, free home cinema and the best selection of wines and cheeses in the air business. Ryanair offers cheap travel.
I moreover disagree with you on the "non knowing what you get" argument against the RLD. On the contrary, compared to almost any other streetwalkers I know the ones in the Bahnhofsviertel are incredibly willing to let you do whatever you want. CIM? COF? Hard and deep anal? No problem darling, just add 10E to the price. The working girls in my native Denmark would slap me in the face for suggestion any of this. Some FKK girls would also refuse. The problem I have is with health. Most of the streetwalkers in Frankfurt are either drug addicts (many of them on crack or coke and hence at least not full of holes...) or from, shall we say, less hygienic parts of Europe. It's a risk I sometimes shudder to take. But, please don't come down on their service: it is generally surprisingly good.
Angus Magee
10-18-09, 10:21
Having spent many years, on and off, mongering I can not say I've done it all, but I have experienced many different P4P venus-from the lowest of the low (back alley blowjobs) to some fairly high class & expensive bordellos. What I have found is that while the price one pays for the service does have some bearing on the quality of service it is not everything.
So for me the RLD vs FFK debate really comes down to the level of comfort I find in an FKK vs the level of comfort I find trudging up and down stairs in the RLD. For me the choice is obvious.
As to whether or not some FKK girls are posting negative reports on the RLD with the purpose of encouraging FKK visits-I seriously doubt it. I tend to favor the simplest explanation possible. That a less experienced monger, one who has a higher probability of having a negative RLD experience, will most likely visit the RLD over the FKK, thinking both that he is saving money and going to a more accessible mongering venue. It took me a while before I found that FKKs existed and then even longer to decide to give it a try.
Changes at the Palace. In particular have a Restaurant room but the food is much the same as before.
A few new faces in the girl lineup and a few long timers still there: Daniella (Romania), Patricia (German punky), Bianca (Romania), Alice (Dominican Halle Berry look-alike but weak performer), Angelica (tits now enhanced), Laura (tits now enhanced and brown hair. Nearly couldn't recognise her), etc. Etc.
Friday night the girl lineup was massive but not many customers till it got late. Saturday, many girls decided to either stay home or go somewhere else. But far more customers on Saturday. Crazy isn't it.
Girls sampled:
Angelina (Czech) slim blonde with the pendulous natural tits. Looks like she has lost just a little weight but tits are big and soft and good for tit-fucking.
BBBJ was too toothy for me.
No kissing or DATY permitted.
Pussy feels nice and an Optifik.
Overall score 7.5 (including optifik points)
Anna (Polska) blonde with small tits. BBBJ just a bit too firm and too fast, but O.K. Had a nice 69. Doggy and pussy was very tight causing me to blow my load in less than 15 minutes total elapsed (a record for me). Because of very quick session (at 3.30 AM) its hard to give her a score. Perhaps would get an 8.
Nichole (Columbia) curly dark hair, pretty face, small tits and firm plumb but not flabby bottom. A cleanliness freak. Very little English so most conversation was in my rather limited Deutsch. At first kissing and DATY not desired but she changed her mind once I agreed to an hour (business had been slow on Sat). Had me rinse my mouth with mouthwash first. Kissing O.K. but a bit minimal. Close to 20 mins of patient DATY and she finally made it. My neck was stiff due to her arching her back. She said "First Time" and I agreed was my first time with her. No, she mean't first time she ever orgasmed at the club. :D Very good BBBJ, but I wanted to screw as well. Quite nice mish but her legs were just a little stiff. Scared of the cock? She claimed she wanted me to come in the mouth (needs the money). O.K. so back to superb BBBJ until. Just when she thinks I will come she takes it out and switches to hand job with mouth very close to dick. O.K. she is tricky. Wants the bonus but doesn't actually want to cop the full load in her mouth.
So its more a come on mouth, come on face deal.
Overall score 7.5. Only downer really was not taking it properly in the mouth. Still was good fun. Next time I would not take the CIM option with her.
Bee (Thai) Curvy figure and artwork (doesn't look bad) on her back. A few stretch marks but still looks good. Great GFE seesion for 1 hour. Finished with doggy while admiring very nice arse. No complaints. Probably doesn't do CIM or anal. Overall score 9.
[b]Mitzu (Japanese)[b] Nice natural B to C cups, but a bit narrow hips. Another great GFE for 60 mins. BBBJ superbly soft and slow - the best BBBJ for me. Didn't complain at all about extended fucking. Probably doesn't do anal (but I don't either ;) and didn't ask).
Overall score: 9
Harry Dude
10-18-09, 19:44
Changes at the Palace. In particular have a Restaurant room but the food is much the same as before.
I haven't been there for a few weeks, and was surprised to see there was no food in the usual place - until I saw the new restaurant which is very nice. Some of the girls I spoke to also like this new arrangement - they can now eat in peace and quiet if they want.
The Saturday was slow at first, most of the time there were far more men than women there. However then I reacquainted myself with Angelica (Russia) and her new tits. I actually had not been with her since I wrote this report: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=659374&postcount=2460
And it turned out she was as wild as before. Excellent, almost violent and very deep BBBJ, great sloppy DFK, and some really passionate and sweaty fucking. She also has not lost her sense of humor, we had a lot of fun while going at it in the room.
After that, I recuperated in the steam room, had some lunch, and then I met with Bee (Thailand) which I always do when I am at Palace. She was friendly and provided great sex as usual.
Another break in the steam room, before I hooked up with a rather pretty girl who claimed she was from Egypt which I did not really believe. That session was so-so, I can't even remember her name.
So for me the RLD vs FFK debate really comes down to the level of comfort I find in an FKK vs the level of comfort I find trudging up and down stairs in the RLD. For me the choice is obvious.
I tend to favor the simplest explanation possible. That a less experienced monger, one who has a higher probability of having a negative RLD experience, will most likely visit the RLD over the FKK, thinking both that he is saving money and going to a more accessible mongering venue. It took me a while before I found that FKKs existed and then even longer to decide to give it a try.
I agree with just about everything you say. You clearly have a precise analytical mind. The same weapon we all look forward to you deploying on your forthcoming foray into different shades of FKK waters. I wish you best of luck on your forthcoming safari with the illustrious Iseeu, a proven hunter-gatherer of the fkk experience. I look forward to your analysis of Oase and the Hof, after having Artemis as your fkk baseline.
As far as the RLD vs FKK debate: It shall always be a topic of active comparison and re-evaluation. But at the end of the day, it comes down to personal taste, the same type of personal taste factor that would allow one guy to rate a girl great, but another guy to find her a shark, or one club to be better than another, and so on. You just have to go and see and make your own individual decision.
Ortos
Gents,
Sorry for the silly question but do the rooms (zimmer) at the Palace have doors that you close when you go with the lady, or is it open where others can see you in action?
It does not really matter but I was curious.Thank you for your responses that there is a door.
Good. I like my privacy. I just wanted to know what to expect at the Palace.
OK Palace, here I come!
hi,
new user here. next week i'll have the fortune of visiting frankfurt and munich for 6 days. i'm planning to dedicate 2 days to visit the fkks.
i visited club globe in zurich, switzerland http://www.club-globe.ch 3 years ago and was absolutely blown away by it. i only had 1 day left in zurich (and europe) at the time and brought just enough cash to do a threesome. it was an unforgettable experience.
anyway, i have researched fkks in frankfurt and munich and i would appreciate your opinions on how the following fkks compare to each other.
1. the palace
2. colosseum
3. globe
i'm a tits guy, so i want big breasted women (c or d cup), real or not. i like all sorts of women, but i lean towards whites. i also want to be pleased by multiple women, so provider:customer ratio is an important consideration. so, the best fkk for me would be one full of white, big breasted women, and not enough men. :d
again, i will appreciate it if you can give a comparison from the 3 categories i look for (cup size, white ratio, female ratio). for those who have been in the palace or colosseum, it will be even better if you can peek into globe's web site, look at the girls (they're for real, i've been there) and let me know how the german fkks compare in term of girl quality. (of course i understand this is subjective, but i appreciate your opinions nevertheless.)
thanks!
tenno77
You can leave the door open if you want.
HBBut do we want that....? LOL.
Thank you for your responses that there is a door.
Good. I like my privacy. I just wanted to know what to expect at the Palace.
OK Palace, here I come!
Be open minded, if the situation allows.
I don't much care for engaging in kino action, but during a Christmas party a few years back, I had an amazing experience in the round TV room beyond the pool. May not be there anymore. The place was busy, long lines for every room, so many couples went to the TV room. "Public," but more private than the kino. At least 15 couples using every surface for every sex act imaginable. All blissfully doing there own thing and basically ignoring everone else except for the occasional glance. While getting an excellent BBBJ from Czech Lina, I maintained smiling eye contact with a pretty brunette lying on her stomach getting her ass fucked. Very memorable experience.
Be open minded, if the situation allows.
I don't much care for engaging in kino action, but during a Christmas party a few years back, I had an amazing experience in the round TV room beyond the pool. May not be there anymore. The place was busy, long lines for every room, so many couples went to the TV room. "Public," but more private than the kino. At least 15 couples using every surface for every sex act imaginable. All blissfully doing there own thing and basically ignoring everone else except for the occasional glance. While getting an excellent BBBJ from Czech Lina, I maintained smiling eye contact with a pretty brunette lying on her stomach getting her ass fucked. Very memorable experience.
Those days, at Palace at least, are sadly gone forever...
O
Ekliges Lauern
10-20-09, 01:49
Those days, at Palace at least, are sadly gone forever...
O
Well....
Maybe not Palace, but Goldentime....
I was there a few weeks back. I was fucking a girl from behind in the Kino on the large platform in the back. The girls was Andrea from Romania. She's got kind of a gypsy thing going on. Instead of pointing her towards the back wall, I had her facing the entrance. Her face was about half a meter away from another monger who was lying on his back getting blown. He starts caressing my girl's face.
In walks a girl I have sessioned with before. She gets up on the platform and tries to join in. I'm not interested in her joining in, so she starts rubbing my back, snuggling up to me, fondling my Eier. Then she starts a conversation with me (how have you been, etc.) She even asks after Basketcase. While this is going on, the other monger starts kissing my girl while I am fucking her. He quickly loses it in his girl's mouth. She is staring at me, her mouth buried deep on his cock with his cum running out of it. In a chain reaction, I lose it in my girl while fucking her from behind. As we detangle bodies, the girls are laughing, realizing what just happened and the chain reaction.
These are the good old days...
Well....
Maybe not Palace, but Goldentime....
I was there a few weeks back. I was fucking a girl from behind in the Kino on the large platform in the back. The girls was Andrea from Romania. She's got kind of a gypsy thing going on. Instead of pointing her towards the back wall, I had her facing the entrance. Her face was about half a meter away from another monger who was lying on his back getting blown. He starts caressing my girl's face.
In walks a girl I have sessioned with before. She gets up on the platform and tries to join in. I'm not interested in her joining in, so she starts rubbing my back, snuggling up to me, fondling my Eier. Then she starts a conversation with me (how have you been, etc.) She even asks after Basketcase. While this is going on, the other monger starts kissing my girl while I am fucking her. He quickly loses it in his girl's mouth. She is staring at me, her mouth buried deep on his cock with his cum running out of it. In a chain reaction, I lose it in my girl while fucking her from behind. As we detangle bodies, the girls are laughing, realizing what just happened and the chain reaction.
These are the good old days...
If you are into this kind of thing, the best place I know is Lady Marmalade Parties in London. (has its own thread in ISG). There the "good old days" happen three times daily.
I moreover disagree with you on the "non knowing what you get" argument against the RLD. On the contrary, compared to almost any other streetwalkers I know the ones in the Bahnhofsviertel are incredibly willing to let you do whatever you want. CIM? COF? Hard and deep anal? No problem darling, just add 10E to the price. The working girls in my native Denmark would slap me in the face for suggestion any of this. Some FKK girls would also refuse.
I agree with just about everything you say. You clearly have a precise analytical mind. Thats what i like about RLD areas is that you can find good girls as well. Cheers Nickc
I agree with just about everything you say. You clearly have a precise analytical mind. The same weapon we all look forward to you deploying on your forthcoming foray into different shades of FKK waters. I wish you best of luck on your forthcoming safari with the illustrious Iseeu, a proven hunter-gatherer of the fkk experience. I look forward to your analysis of Oase and the Hof, after having Artemis as your fkk baseline.
As far as the RLD vs FKK debate: It shall always be a topic of active comparison and re-evaluation. But at the end of the day, it comes down to personal taste, the same type of personal taste factor that would allow one guy to rate a girl great, but another guy to find her a shark, or one club to be better than another, and so on. You just have to go and see and make your own individual decision.
Ortos
Hey Gents,
Never thought I'd see the day when there would be any serious question as to which genre of p4p delivered higher quality service: FKK or RLD.
From my own perspective this is like comparing beluga caviar and beef jerky. But hey, that's just my experience.
I can't say that I've been to every RLD in Germany/Europe, but I've been to quite a few, including the F'furt Bahnhoviertel and unless things have changed in the past few years, then I can't imagine anything there holding sway with a good, club standard FKK session or club experience.
My last RLD visit was in A'dam earlier this year and while I'll admit that the place is a only a shadow of what it once was, even the glory days of good A'dam RLD sessions didn't and do not hold a candle to a good FKK time.
It IS interesting that this debate occurs on the Palace thread. I've long since taken Palace off my "ports of call" list, so I've no firsthand knowledge of what's currently going on there. Ironically, I have in the past compared a standard Palace session to an RLD session.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hello to all,
Last time I went to Palace was one year ago. But was my first fkk visit, where I lost my fkk virginity and still I remember in a good mood the place.
Unfortunately I read here that the place is becoming worst day by day, because the girls' attitude. Someone written that the girls try to cheat you upselling with various techniques.
Guys, I have to tell you the truth!
When you go to have sex paying cash, the risk that the girl wanna earn the reward doing the minimum effort it's always on duty. You have to choose wisely and be lucky.
I report an episode that I got this summer in another club.
I go with a girl for a standard service, never speak before concerning extra or extra time, just a normal session. I haven't a watch with me. So when we finish I go to the locker to pay her and she says."we stay more than half an hour, was 35 minutes almost 40. So it's 75 euros". I said "no way, we haven't agreed one hour service, and by the way, if was 40 minutes why you haven't told me in the room, because I leaved 20 minuted more? ". More than 30 minutes it's included in one hour tariff, so why don't use at all.
She told me that if I didn't pay 75 she will go to speak with the manager, I didn't speak german but english, so I just decided to pay 75 euros, and just put a cross on her. We discussed for 15minutes but she was "no way you pay".
Ok?
So guys, I was disappointed because in my way you are correct if you say to the guy "the hal an hour is passed, what you wanna do? Do we extend for a full hour? ". For me like this it's ok and you will guarantee more good publicity through the customers, but some girls think in other way.
In the fkks' ambient every girl has her personal mongering-job experience, someones just rip off the money, someones try to do the job at her best, because they can earn money faster doin a great job, but someones think to do the minimum effort to get 100 euros. They have to be discouraged to use these techniques. And leave wating for hours to the bar. Annoiyng for days and earn no money at all. They just counting on their beautyness to rip off the customers.
Guys, chat before with your lady and be clear in the room. You earn your money, some girls just try to cheat.
Later,
Hugs from Italy!
. Right now there's no Asian post-op LB at Palace. And there's quite a lot of signs, like height, size of feet and hands, adams apple, behaviour, voice, face, plastic tits.
HBRight now, the Asian post-op LB is not working, but very clever to slot in the word "Asian". There is one non-asian tranny who has been at the Palace for years, and many people don't know. Not sure of the name or nationality but heard her speaking Spanish. Has spiral curled hair and has a very buxom muscly powerful build with large silicone enhancements. Her voice is very feminine but her face looks slightly unusual. With that build, is not my type. I go for slim chicks. She gets plenty of customers though.
I noticed quite a few girls now not covering the breasts, waist or pussy at all. Perhaps 12 girls in this category. This has improved from some time back. One girl with very large natural tits, probably E to F cups (but no its not the famous Linda). Very tempted but not quite slim enough for me.
I went with Nah(spelling? ), a newish Thai girl with enhanced but not bad breasts. She was complaining about being horny and not getting it off yet so we had a very enthusiastic session. Her BBBJ was quite good but ever so slightly too firm for me so I concentrated on other things.
60 mins and we got 2 pops each. Later, another guy took her for several hours. Very GFE
Bee again! Another super session. This time 90 mins. She is booked almost continuously and has many regulars. Very GFE
Yanita Bulgaria. Early on was hunting with Valentina as a pair. Later I took the blonde bombshell with the slimmish very curvy body and enhancements. She had no Gel but seemed be reasonably lubricated. Good BBBJ but had to tell her to go slower. Nice Optifik and very co-operative. Good English. PSE more so than GFE.
Flora Bulgaria. A tall girl, very sweet. Breasts were not big but wide and natural. A little bit spare on the belly. DATY was difficult due to very small clit (I could still find it. Just) and slightly arched back. BBBJ was very nice and sex was enhanced by very tight pussy. Had to take it slow to avoid inflicting pain.orgasmed quicker than usual due to the tightness.
Moderate English and Deutsch but excellent Spanish. Nice kisser and couldn't detect that she smokes a bit. Moderately GFE.
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West By Sun
10-27-09, 05:56
She told me that if I didn't pay 75 she will go to speak with the manager, I didn't speak german but english, so I just decided to pay 75 euros, and just put a cross on her. We discussed for 15minutes but she was "no way you pay".
Ciao, Italia77
The similar(same?) story happened to me about 1 year ago. The girl is named Aisha with huge tits who claimed to be from Lebanon but other girls informed me that she is from Romania (the nationality does not matter and I am normally a big fun of Romanian girls. I added it to show that the girl is a liar).
The major problem in Place is that these days the club management tends to allow this unfair 75 euros demand and some girls dare to do it openly.
Maybe in this case I should leave Palace, paying only 50 euros.
WBS
Ciao, Italia77
The similar(same?) story happened to me about 1 year ago. The girl is named Aisha with huge tits who claimed to be from Lebanon but other girls informed me that she is from Romania (the nationality does not matter and I am normally a big fun of Romanian girls. I added it to show that the girl is a liar).
The major problem in Place is that these days the club management tends to allow this unfair 75 euros demand and some girls dare to do it openly.
Maybe in this case I should leave Palace, paying only 50 euros.
WBS
This would seem to support the old FKK axiom: If a girl lies about her real origin, then she will often (not always) be disengenious when it comes to service/performance in the room.
This kind of discussion with regard to Palace has filled many, many pages in the back posts of this thread. However, it is worth repeating that this is NOT happening with EVERY GIRL at Palace. Yes, one gets more reports about it at Palace than, say, Oase, but you can find similar reports at almost every other big club: at Palace, Oase, World, GT, etc...
One of the reasons that Palace has many reports is that, by virtue of its location more or less within Frankfurt city limits, many FKK newbies will make Palace their first club. There maybe a sub-culture at many clubs, esp. Palace, amongst certain girls (not exclusively Romanians, but...) to look for tell-tale signs of newbies and exploit this. Yes, the Palace club management is not the most customer-friendly; they often take the attitude that what happens is mainly between the customer and the girl, except if certain lines are crossed.
Some tips to help you possibly avoid being targeted by sharks at Palace or any other club:
--Try to learn some German, if you can. It helps! I'm not saying these rip-offs never happen to German guests, but for sure they do happen less often.
--Even if you speak English or whatever, employ a bit of deception yourself, by telling the girl you actually live and work in Germany not too far away and will be making regular visits to the club.
--Take your time to select your session mates, be observant and know the rules of the game. Be the player yourself, don't let the girl play you!
--Wear a frickin watch! (I just by a cheap 10Euro watch across from the train station) and make sure the girl sees you look at the time once you enter the room.
--Last and most important: Communicate with the girl before and throughout the sesssion about what you want, what your expectations are and what you do not want or are not willing to pay for. Tell her at the start you just want a 30mins session; or you want to start out with that and will possibly extend later on depending on...whatever factors...All too often disagreements can be traced to lack of communication.
Just a few basic comments here...But let's not make this a Palace-only discussion. And remember, there are plenty of girls at Palace (like all clubs) who will give you the best GFE (or whatever you seek). You just have to thresh them out from the rest. That is your job, your skill to hone...
Thanks,
Ortos
Angus Magee
10-27-09, 10:04
--Try to learn some German, if you can. It helps! I'm not saying these rip-offs never happen to German guests, but for sure they do happen less often.
--Even if you speak English or whatever, employ a bit of deception yourself, by telling the girl you actually live and work in Germany not too far away and will be making regular visits to the club.
--Take your time to select your session mates, be observant and know the rules of the game. Be the player yourself, don't let the girl play you!
--Wear a frickin watch! (I just by a cheap 10Euro watch across from the train station) and make sure the girl sees you look at the time once you enter the room.
--Last and most important: Communicate with the girl before and throughout the sesssion about what you want, what your expectations are and what you do not want or are not willing to pay for. Tell her at the start you just want a 30mins session; or you want to start out with that and will possibly extend later on depending on...whatever factors...All too often disagreements can be traced to lack of communication.
Just a few basic comments here...But let's not make this a Palace-only discussion. And remember, there are plenty of girls at Palace (like all clubs) who will give you the best GFE (or whatever you seek). You just have to thresh them out from the rest. That is your job, your skill to hone...
Thanks,
Ortos
Excellent post Ortos. IMHO this should be required reading for any one considering their first FKK visit. And, in fact, many of us more experienced FKK visitors would do well to review it from time to time.
I especially liked the final comment on communication. In my experience, when I have a bad session it is almost always traceable back to this factor. Being clear about what one wants (in life too-not just FKK visits) always ups the probability of getting it.
As I will detail in part two of my Oase report, my time alone at Oase was just as much fun as my time with Iseeu-who was spoon feeding me all sorts of insider info. But when I reflect upon the later part of the evening I can see that I was quite clear about what I wanted and communicated this to the girls. The results were fantastic.
I could go on here but I will not, and get busy with part two-hopefully to be posted later today or this evening.
Cheers
AM
Ekliges Lauern
10-27-09, 11:35
The major problem in Place is that these days the club management tends to allow this unfair 75 euros demand and some girls dare to do it openly.
I report an episode that I got this summer in another club.
I go with a girl for a standard service, never speak before concerning extra or extra time, just a normal session. I haven't a watch with me. So when we finish I go to the locker to pay her and she says."we stay more than half an hour, was 35 minutes almost 40. So it's 75 euros". I said "no way, we haven't agreed one hour service, and by the way, if was 40 minutes why you haven't told me in the room, because I leaved 20 minuted more? ". More than 30 minutes it's included in one hour tariff, so why don't use at all.
Hey WBS,
Just a quick correction. Italia77 noted that the incident happened in another club. Since the price was 75 for more than a half hour, it was likely NRW. If it was NRW, the time was likely verifiable via a key system (times are logged).
As Italia77 wasn't wearing a watch, it is difficult to know if this was a case of time banditry. I'm sure time banditry occurs at Palace as it does at many other clubs. The only time I have been subjected to time banditry was at Oase a couple of years ago. Girl insisted we went over 30 minutes and that I owed her an addition fiddy. I pointed to my watch and told her exactly when our session started and that I was happy to speak with management about it. She backed down so fast it would make your head spin.
Moral of the story. Buy a watch and take control of the situation. And read Ortos' excellent tips.
Regards,
EL
--Wear a frickin watch! (I just by a cheap 10Euro watch across from the train station) and make sure the girl sees you look at the time once you enter the room.
I cannot stress how important this is. This was one of the first 'tips' that I learned as a FKK newbie a few years ago, and have lived by it religiously since.
No Rolexes needed, a cheap old one from Wal-Mart (or your country's closest equivalent) will do :)
Make sure you give it a quick glance while taking it off, and if she sees you doing it, all the better.
Angus Magee
10-27-09, 13:32
I cannot stress how important this is. This was one of the first 'tips' that I learned as a FKK newbie a few years ago, and have lived by it religiously since.
No Rolexes needed, a cheap old one from Wal-Mart (or your country's closest equivalent) will do :)
Make sure you give it a quick glance while taking it off, and if she sees you doing it, all the better.
First of all I certainly do not claim to know Palace and the types of experiences one has there. But I do know Artemis rather well and this is another "city" FKK where the girls there can be pretty wily.
So simply add this as another perspective.
While I do see the wisdom of using a watch and how it can assure that you do in fact get your alloted time, I myself do not own one and have no plans to buy one. For me, the type of session I aim for is a session in which the girl is really not that concerned about a few extra, even as much as 10, extra minutes.
Do I find this type of girl? All the time. Not exclusively mind you but often.
If you yourself are watching the clock how can you expect the girl not to be?
And when I do make a bad choice with a girl I am usually, for reasons other than time, more or less content to just finish the session, orgasm or not, pay the girl her minimum fee and get out of there, chalk it up to experience, and move on.
And it has never happened to me that I get a surprise a the locker with the girl informing me that we have gone over the half hour and I owe her for a second. But then I always, always mention to the girl that I am wanting the basic half hour session to start. Unless I know the girl or, as with my recent session with Sina, it becomes obvious at the start that I wan to extend.
As I say-just another perspective.
West By Sun
10-27-09, 14:18
Just a quick correction. Italia77 noted that the incident happened in another club. Since the price was 75 for more than a half hour, it was likely NRW. If it was NRW, the time was likely verifiable via a key system (times are logged).
EL,
Yeah..., it is true. Sorry for my poor english skill and thanks for the correction.
Regards, WBS
West By Sun
10-27-09, 14:47
--Try to learn some German, if you can. It helps! I'm not saying these rip-offs never happen to German guests, but for sure they do happen less often.
--Even if you speak English or whatever, employ a bit of deception yourself, by telling the girl you actually live and work in Germany not too far away and will be making regular visits to the club.
--Take your time to select your session mates, be observant and know the rules of the game. Be the player yourself, don't let the girl play you!
--Wear a frickin watch! (I just by a cheap 10Euro watch across from the train station) and make sure the girl sees you look at the time once you enter the room.
Ortos,
Yeah, ok. Thank your for your advice.
My main residence is in Paris, 4 hours from Frankfurt by train. Actually I have ever visited Palace more than one hundred times. Many Palace regulars girls know me. And that was not my first session with Aisha, so I was a repeater customer for her. This is why I did not expected to have problem with her.
I use to be one of mongers with the most suspicious eyes like yours (Let's call it Ortos s'eyes), however now I prefere to take action instantly, throwing myself down instinctively with lust. As a result, many faillure. But I enjoy faillures. For FKK mongering I bought a Casio's divers watch I can bring it to sauna and jaccuzi, this one have chrono function but I have never timed session.
I once tried to study german, in vain. I am a kind of specialist of japanese litterature and wanna continue to study chinese, russian and italian for my own pleasure. To study german is over my capacity.
WBS
I didn't know time in NRW clubs was verifiable via key system. Good trick, next time I will ask to the girl at the desk, anyway the club was Planet Happy Garden, sorry guys I didn't mention too much of the club to avoid to make mess in the Palace' thread.
Anyway, I like Palace, was my first fkk in 2007. And I adore the dirt porn atmosphere of the palace' kino. I simply like it. Even if the club becoming every year more commercial and you risk lackness of pure sex performance with some great points of gfe experience.
Not all bad anyway, because, even if you arrive on a Saturday, the trick is always the same, arrive close to 4pm and you'll get please by a quiet girl without the mess of a crowd night. That's it.
In my point of fkks' view, I simply don't like girls start with: "hello, go for a room? " and start to massage your dick. I like to speak 5 min before. Look in the eyez, caressing, maybe smiling and have fun. If all goes just a kiss before to move to the room. That's my wonder steps in a fkk scale. And if you are in the kino, maybe don't need a room. But just let it flows.
And now the Palace seems to be changed, I've seen the site, something is changed from my last visit in nov.08. Palace, I think it's good for men like to be hunted, maybe for little shy men, because the girls hunt you and I can understand men what wanna choose by theirself disagree this pressure by the girls. But the Frankfurt area is almost like this, instead in NRW I. E. Dusseldorf and Kolh, the girls don't approach you, so pretty good if you are able to seduce a woman and wanna take time to choose, instead pretty difficult if you are shy and you'll wish a woman's approach. At least you will count on a eyez contact.
Later
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I use to be one of mongers with the most suspicious eyes like yours (Let's call it Ortos s'eyes), however now I prefere to take action instantly, throwing myself down instinctively with lust. As a result, many faillure. But I enjoy faillures.
WBS
I don't think my eyes are especially suspicious --they are normally quite red though :). However, I do attempt to get a "read" on a girl and try to "feel" the vibes from her as to whether or not she will be genuine and honest and the kind of GF performer I seek. I too sometimes just go all-in, following some sudden attraction to some girls without going through any of the important steps to ascertain her real nature. Like you, sometimes I fall flat and have a dud session, but sometimes you win too! There are times when I take a chance on a girl and then start to get red flags about her, e.g. when we have to wait for a room and I try to kiss her or start some kind of action on the couch pre-zimmer. Then, if she gives me red flags, I sometimes (to the girl's surprise) abort the session. Some of them try to protest, but then I point out that we have not really engaged in any real action, therefore I am well within my rights to abort. I told a couple of them that they should have been a bit more affectionate on the couch and then I would have loved to carry on...but there are just too many other girls who will give me a solid performance, so why should I risk it...? Should have seen their faces...:) We all live and learn from experience, it works both ways...right?
First of all I certainly do not claim to know Palace and the types of experiences one has there. But I do know Artemis rather well and this is another "city" FKK where the girls there can be pretty wily.
I think that of all the FKK clubs, Palace is closest to Artemis in many ways...Indeed many girls who work at Palace also float over to Artemis from time to time. I hope one day you will be able to visit Palace and make your own analytical assessment...
Ortos
Angus Magee
10-27-09, 16:06
We all live and learn from experience, it works both ways...right?
I think that being gently honest with the girls this way is good for them (though they may not see it this way) good for you and good for the business in general. Were more mongers to demand-in a nice way-good, fair service then service over all would have to improve.
And maybe I am ever a bit of an optimist.
...
--Wear a frickin watch! (I just by a cheap 10Euro watch across from the train station) and make sure the girl sees you look at the time once you enter the room.
Ortos
I fully agree.
It seems that the FKK Palace is going downhill, since i had my last ugly session 2 years ago. read here : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=657650&highlight=FKK+Palace#post657650
Regards.
B.B.
Just had my first FKK experience at palace and came away with mixed feelings. Arrived on a Friday night and as you'd expect of a first timer to this scene was amazed at the set up. As soon as you enter there are loads of sexy young girls most of them stark naked. Got myself into a robe and went to the main club area. Sat by the cafe having a few drinks and chick after chick came along asking if I want to fuck them. Oh yeah! But thought I'd sample the scene initially. There were loads of Romanians, bulgarians etc. Was dissapointed that you couldn't get alcohol that were reasonably priced.
Went to the smoking room and more chicks wanted me to fuck them I. E. Wanted my cash. By this stage I started getting negative vibes. They were aggressive. I'd decline them politely saying possibly later on which would [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off! Thought I got to be careful who I choose. Saw a really fit chick who was unusually wrapped in towel and had a sexy dress on. Something sexy about that in a place where every girl is naked! Eventually went to talk to her, she was was pleased to be approached. Bulgarian about 24. Started negotiating and asked what can you do for me. Got a puzzelled look back. "I don't discuss what I do. I will give a nice service. You will remember it, I will do it my way" and all that. Interesting marketing I thought. But not what I want to hear. Will you suck my dick ***** and let me take you in loads of positions and give me the full 30 mins is what I wanna know. Not surprises. Thought the only surprise I will get here is crap service so told her no. She was well pissed off. This wasn't looking good!
Also the place was full with mongers. I would say there were as many mongers as girls. This wasn't what I wanted. Maybe this just happens on weekends?
Walked around went to Kino. Met Flor or floris and she gave me some good vibes. As she was sucking my cock in the kino some commotion started outside. Went to see what the fucks going on and there's the bouncer having telling an indian to get the hell out. No idea what happened but the bloke was bleeding and was obviously hit on the face. Bouncer pused him out towards the door. End of.
Back to Flor. She was quite good in the room lovely sexy dream of an ass. Took her doggy and let her suck it till I couldn't stand it anymore. After hung around the bar another hour more and a cuban girl almost attacks me with her tongue all over me and an iron grip on my cock. She persuaded me. Took her to the room. ***** was an animal! Nice girl!
Overall the ratio of girls to guys wasn't good. And the sharkiness of most of the girls was off putting. You could tell they'd never heard of GFE. And I like a drink or two when I'm looking at sexy girls. I think whisky or vodka was 25 euro or something like that. Next day went for Oase will report on the Oase thread.
Thanks to all your advice before my trip!
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Hessen Bub
10-28-09, 10:08
bloke was bleeding and was obviously hit on the face.
Never saw something like that live.
And the sharkiness of most of the girls was off putting. You could tell they'd never heard of GFE.
Most of the girls? Must have been an all different line up or you got approached by the wrong type of girls. There's a lot of good service providers at Palace.
HB
There's a lot of good service providers at Palace.
HB
Till now I always agreed on that but nowadays I have to point out that the service gets worser and worser.
The list with the extras is getting longer and this changing - up to my opinion - the mentality of the girls.
The last times I've been to Palace it's a simple game between the girls and the guys; the girl is trying to make an extra and the guy is trying to avoid that.
I really do understand that anal or CIM is an extra but why a simple end up on tits or body should be an extra too.
Makes the whole fun quite expensive.
And if you're not going for extras the girls attitude is changing and the whole thing is very very mechanically.
So my last visits had been a bit disappointing.
Charlie 123
10-28-09, 17:39
You could tell they'd never heard of GFE.I don't agree - I think you just got unlucky. Actually, to be honest, I think that you handled yourself in a way that was disadvantageous to you. There is a very good post by Ortos earlier in the thread in which he gives solid advice about FKK strategies that I suspect that you failed to heed.
I am an Artemis regular, and recently took a road-trip to Frankfurt to check out some of the action at the so-called 'Hessen 3'. I didn't make it to FKK World, but I did visit Palace and Oase.
Of the two, I preferred Palace. Oase is probably great in the summer when the outdoor facilities come into play, but Palace felt friendlier and better equipped to me. Whilst at Palace and Oase, I was constantly comparing in my mind aspects of the club with the facilities back at Artemis, and in general I concluded the following:-
1) The facilities in Frankfurt were inferior to those at Artemis, particularly with regard to the size and comfort of the changing areas, although Palace's locker room is better than the one at Oase.
2) The girls are even better looking in Oase and Palace than they were in Berlin.
3) The sharks are fewer and less pushy in both Oase and Palace than they are at Artemis
4) The quality of the girls' service was just as good in Hessen as in Berlin
Returning to the main point, and specifically to address your suggestion that a GFE is hard to find at Palace, I think that you are just plain wrong. I visited just the once, and had 2 girls at Palace, one of whom was superb and the other was OK. From this one visit alone I would be more than confident that a terrific GFE is widely available to the conscientious monger, just as it is at every other FKK I've ever visited.
Why did you not get what you were looking for? Well, it could be that
a) you chose your girls poorly, or
b) the girls were good choices, but the chemistry simply wasn't there between you
c) there is something about the way you approached your encounters with these girls that mitigated against a successful session,
d) you just got unlucky on the night
Have a think about it. It may well be that some of the deficiencies in your experience at Palace could be attributable to your own conduct rather than the conduct of the girls.
Good luck
Charlie
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Sebastiane
10-28-09, 20:31
I went to palace last Thursday. As I live locally I'm now a regular and swim through the process. I went in the evening around eight. There were a lot of pretty girls there. I'm extremely picky but I rarely have been and not had a few really hot girls to choose from so it surprises me when people complain so much- and so I just spent some time at the bar sipping coffee and observing. A few girls approached e but they were either not my type or I didn't like their approach and so I turned them down but ALWAYS politely and with a smile. Finally I was approached by a girl I'd been with one of my very first visits a couple of years ago but she still remembered me. Camilla. Romanian. Distinctive mole on her cheek. Curvy but v pretty. I was reclined on the large swinging bed thing and she lay next to me and we just chatted for ages with no pressure from her. Eventually I decided to go with her and had an hour session. It was a real GFE and we did everything. 100 euros. A large part of the hour was spent fucking and I was exhausted. It was great. She also told me what had happened to her fellow Romanian and my fave natasha. I left soon after.
My point is if you treat them with respect news gets round and you get better service.
Why did you not get what you were looking for? Well, it could be that
a) you chose your girls poorly, or
b) the girls were good choices, but the chemistry simply wasn't there between you
c) there is something about the way you approached your encounters with these girls that mitigated against a successful session,
d) you just got unlucky on the night
Have a think about it. It may well be that some of the deficiencies in your experience at Palace could be attributable to your own conduct rather than the conduct of the girls.
Good luck
CharlieWell, I'm used to hobbying in spain where I've found great GFE's. No FKK concept but service has been fantastic. No issue with finishing on body, no clock watching, coming twice is not a problem. All of these things are 'extra's' here. 50 Euro extra! Yes they tell you this in advance but I thought palace girls were spoilt. There were queues outside the rooms. At end of one session a chick considered the time I chatted with her in the kino (no oral or anything) part of the 30 mins. That sort of thing puts you off her.
Not saying it has to be perfect and I am likely to return for more but it felt too business like all along. Might try a weekday in future when there are less mongers so they are not so keen to get the next fee.
Sebastiane
10-31-09, 01:57
Hi,
I haven't seen the stunning Natasha for some time now (sadly). What this other girl told me.-assuming it is true and I can think of no reason not to trust her on this--was that apparently one very wealthy client at Palace of Natasha's promised to give her twenty thousand euros or some such huge figure a month if she promised not to go with other guys (as he didn't like it) and to only go with him. It sounds like a geisha-like arrangement. Like she's become his mistress for the money! I remember the last time I sessioned with her she did tell me that she was thinking of leaving.
TBH, if I had that kind of money I'd have proposed something similar to her myself as she was near perfect. I haven't seen the other Romanian girl Indira either for a couple of months!
I guess that's the nature of this job. I'd imagine some girls enter the position knowing they'll only work for a few years and then move onto more mainstream careers. I often had this conversation with her! (Damn I miss her! ) {Natasha, if you're reading this by chance,.- call me! }
Hope that helped FKKman.
I am reading on another (German) board:
Palace is introducing a new Business-Entry Fee: If you enter the club between 10-16hrs and limit your stay in the club to 2 hours, you are entitled to a reduced Entry Fee of 50Euros.
Does anybody know anything more about this? I am unclear as to whether this is valid only on weekdays, or whether this stands also for Fri/Sat/Sun. It is also unclear what transpires should you over-stay your 2-hours. Logically you must then pay the full 75E.
The proposed method is that upon entering, you pay the full 75E, but if you leave at or before the 2hour mark, you get a 25E rebate.
Interesting...but 2 hours can fly by in an FKK. I guess it is esp advantageous if you are a regular with a specific girl who you know will be there during the daytime hours and you want to have a long hour or slightly longer session.
Ortos
Basketcase
11-01-09, 16:24
I guess it is esp advantageous if you are a regular with a specific girl who you know will be there during the daytime hours and you want to have a long hour or slightly longer session.
Interesting prospect. This seems to work as you say for the punters that know a certain girl works between 12:00 and 16:00 and that you can book her. Generally guys that are regulars will have the girls phone number and can book ahead for a time direct with the girl.
I know at Golden Time there are paramours of the sex providers that do this and even at Oase I know there are times when I cannot book certain girls have they have their privates or regular pre-booked sessions at certain times. I am happy to be flexible to work around these set times since when I am in the clubs I am in there for the entire day and well into the night so I have the time.
But just 2 hours in the club means that you have to go in and get out.
Interesting that the special is targetted at business men. More interesting is the recent article regarding a well known German financial services firm that now bans the reimbursement of brothel expenses purportedly meaning that brothel expenses were routinely reimbursed as travel and entertainment expenses.
The other thing that comes to mind is that Palace must be noting it needed to do something to bring in entrance fees and so identified a niche or differentiated market for the 2 hour visit punter. World already has at times specials on entry like the Winter special for 50€.
Oase still stands out as the one club that does not really provide offers on entrance apart from its Wednesday double 6 dice roll offer. Oase obviously has not seen any downfall in footfall or see the diminishing of their brand if they have to provide gimmicks to get the punters in the door.
Villa Vertigo has its free entry on a Sunday for visitors that register and visit anytime on a Monday to Saturday prior.
Living Room and Golden Time in NRW do not seem to have any offers on entrance except the 5€ discount cards given out routinely at the LR club (but not so much at the GT club).
Angus Magee
11-01-09, 17:27
Oase still stands out as the one club that does not really provide offers on entrance apart from its Wednesday double 6 dice roll offer. Oase obviously has not seen any downfall in footfall or see the diminishing of their brand if they have to provide gimmicks to get the punters in the door.
Artemis offers half price entry on Sunday & Monday to pensioners & taxi drivers...
The girls tell me that the have the defibrillator charged & ready to go both days;-))
I am reading on another (German) board:
Palace is introducing a new Business-Entry Fee: If you enter the club between 10-16hrs and limit your stay in the club to 2 hours, you are entitled to a reduced Entry Fee of 50Euros.
Does anybody know anything more about this? I am unclear as to whether this is valid only on weekdays, or whether this stands also for Fri/Sat/Sun. It is also unclear what transpires should you over-stay your 2-hours. Logically you must then pay the full 75E.
The proposed method is that upon entering, you pay the full 75E, but if you leave at or before the 2hour mark, you get a 25E rebate.
Interesting...but 2 hours can fly by in an FKK. I guess it is esp advantageous if you are a regular with a specific girl who you know will be there during the daytime hours and you want to have a long hour or slightly longer session.
Ortos
Potentially interesting for those having a short stop over in FRA between 2 flights...
Hessen Bub
11-02-09, 01:33
Palace is introducing a new Business-Entry Fee: If you enter the club between 10-16hrs and limit your stay in the club to 2 hours, you are entitled to a reduced Entry Fee of 50Euros.
Basically the same thing Paradise in Stuttgart has been offering for a while.
HB
Interesting...but 2 hours can fly by in an FKK. I guess it is esp advantageous if you are a regular with a specific girl who you know will be there during the daytime hours and you want to have a long hour or slightly longer session.
Ortos
I think you're being too kind, Ortos. The clients they are targeting is clearly middle class men who might find 1-2 hours to drop by during their lunch break. There are plenty of work places for white collar employees in that neighbourhood - starting with the stock exchange. :)
I think you're being too kind, Ortos...
See what a nice guy I am...:)
O
Artemis offers half price entry on Sunday & Monday to pensioners & taxi drivers...
The girls tell me that the have the defibrillator charged & ready to go both days;-))
What do you mean by pensioner? Someone of a certain age? If so, what age?
Rick
Angus Magee
11-02-09, 16:32
What do you mean by pensioner? Someone of a certain age? If so, what age?
Rick
Hi DC,
I moved this over to the Artemis thread as it is about Artemis, not Palace.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=949103&postcount=897
AM
Devilspinkick
11-02-09, 21:42
What do you mean by pensioner? Someone of a certain age? If so, what age?
Rick
A pensioner is a person of retirement age, ie. an old guy. I guess most people retire at around 65 years or so.
Dandriller
11-03-09, 06:54
I am reading on another (German) board:
Palace is introducing a new Business-Entry Fee: If you enter the club between 10-16hrs and limit your stay in the club to 2 hours, you are entitled to a reduced Entry Fee of 50Euros.
Does anybody know anything more about this? I am unclear as to whether this is valid only on weekdays, or whether this stands also for Fri/Sat/Sun. It is also unclear what transpires should you over-stay your 2-hours. Logically you must then pay the full 75E.
The proposed method is that upon entering, you pay the full 75E, but if you leave at or before the 2hour mark, you get a 25E rebate.
Interesting...but 2 hours can fly by in an FKK. I guess it is esp advantageous if you are a regular with a specific girl who you know will be there during the daytime hours and you want to have a long hour or slightly longer session.
OrtosWell this is something that certainly appeals to me as I generally only stay at Palace for 2 hours.
I've often thought it would be nice if they could offer different entry prices for stays of different durations.
A pensioner is a person of retirement age, ie. an old guy. I guess most people retire at around 65 years or so.
...or at 60. For instance, anyone living in London aged 60 or more has got a free bus/tube pass... Don't know if Artemis people will accept my free bus pass as proof of my pensioner's satus. Will have to try...
Angus Magee
11-03-09, 11:48
...or at 60. For instance, anyone living in London aged 60 or more has got a free bus/tube pass... Don't know if Artemis people will accept my free bus pass as proof of my pensioner's satus. Will have to try...
As far as I know the pensioners age in Germany is indeed 65. As I say, Artemis may have issues with extending their offer to those with over seas proof of pensioner status. Especially a foreign bus pass.
But as you say you can only try.
is the Trukish MILF Dilara/Dilarad still a regular at palace?
Hessen Bub
11-05-09, 19:29
is the Trukish MILF Dilara/Dilarad still a regular at palace?
Yes, she is. Dilara is her name, well-known from sunken Atlantis.
HB
Rahulworks
11-06-09, 00:43
I am thinking of visiting Frankfurt FKK clubs on thanksgiving weekend Nov 26 - 29. Need advice from senior members if this is good time to visit. Since this will be my first FKK experience, I want it to be great, don't want to go there on off days.
Advice much appreciated.
RW
I am thinking of visiting Frankfurt FKK clubs on thanksgiving weekend Nov 26 - 29. Need advice from senior members if this is good time to visit. Since this will be my first FKK experience, I want it to be great, don't want to go there on off days.
Advice much appreciated.
RW
Unless I am mistaken, Thanksgiving is only a US holiday. It's just another Thursday, Friday, Saturday sequence in Germany. Or have things changed?
Mark
Unless I am mistaken, Thanksgiving is only a US holiday. It's just another Thursday, Friday, Saturday sequence in Germany. Or have things changed?
Mark
You are not mistaken, "du hast Recht!".
Big30
I am thinking of visiting Frankfurt FKK clubs on thanksgiving weekend Nov 26 - 29. Need advice from senior members if this is good time to visit. Since this will be my first FKK experience, I want it to be great, don't want to go there on off days.
Advice much appreciated.
RW
I don't want to initiate a flame discussion, but I can't stop being surprised that some guys post questions like that.
Hum, what about action in the US on Bastille day? ( yes , I know, it does not matter, since there is no action in the Us on any day anayway...)
Sorry, usel;ss post, just iognore it, my apologies.
I don't want to initiate a flame discussion, but I can't stop being surprised that some guys post questions like that.
Hum, what about action in the US on Bastille day? ( yes , I know, it does not matter, since there is no action in the Us on any day anayway...)
Sorry, usel;ss post, just iognore it, my apologies.
You don't invite anything by stating the truth: Some guys are clueless... I read on another board about some idiot from Texas who went to one of the Hessen Big 3 FKKs for the first time. He went to a room with a Romanian girl for a 50E session. The jerk asked the girl before they started: "How much extra is it for BBBJ?" She replied: "500E extra." He agreed, and paid her 550E for the 30 min session...
What can you say?
Ortos
Hessen Bub
11-06-09, 22:47
jerk asked the girl before they started: "How much extra is it for BBBJ?" She replied: "500E extra." He agreed, and paid her 550E for the 30 min session...
Best thing bout that: The guy was happy, so happy that a girl did blow his dick with no rubber. (Know that cause a friend sat next to him when he was proudly telling his friends in the smokers lounge). Is it asked too much to ask service and prices from the front desk? Or just ask Google about public holidays in Germany. (BTW: 4th of July isn't one).
JYb
Unless I am mistaken, Thanksgiving is only a US holiday. It's just another Thursday, Friday, Saturday sequence in Germany. Or have things changed?
MarkIt's a holiday only on the US military bases. Just like you used to see 4th of July fireworks on the autobahn as you passed the bases in Friedberg.
I remember my first Thanksgiving in Germany. It was at Planet Happy Garden. They served turkey. Really.
Even though they denied individuals from that country entry that day.
Oops.
I had Sammy for an appetizer. Yum.
I am thinking of visiting Frankfurt FKK clubs on thanksgiving weekend Nov 26 - 29. Need advice from senior members if this is good time to visit. Since this will be my first FKK experience, I want it to be great, don't want to go there on off days.
Advice much appreciated.
RWI find Thanksgiving a great time to visit. There is usually no big Messe, airfairs to FKKland are cheap since most Americans are staying home. Weather is ok and the girls plentyful.
If you have to tour the BEST eight FKK suana clubs in germany in 8 days, what is the best itinerary via german rail. Starting points is frankfurt.
The big three in frankfurt are for sure we will start with. Prefer to go in continuous direction. (would like to include artemis, gt).
1. The palace
2. Oase
3. World
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
You don't invite anything by stating the truth: Some guys are clueless... I read on another board about some idiot from Texas who went to one of the Hessen Big 3 FKKs for the first time. He went to a room with a Romanian girl for a 50E session. The jerk asked the girl before they started: "How much extra is it for BBBJ?" She replied: "500E extra." He agreed, and paid her 550E for the 30 min session...
What can you say?
OrtosHi Ortos,
I was there when this happened.
I found the guy in the showers, where he told me the story.
I put him in the arms of a girl that I just had a session with.
This girl gave me a negotiated straight CIM for 50 .
I told her that I was kaput, if would she be up to a half hour of straight BBBJ with CIM for 50, we could try it out
She was OK with it
I almost couldn't finish...but she insisted that we do the best that we could..and I finally came.
This made my day
Best Regards
Smuler
Hessen Bub
11-07-09, 11:03
1. The palace
2. Oase
3. World
4. PHG
5. GoldenTime
6. Living Room
7. Artemis
8. Paradise
There's other good clubs, but that should do for 8 days.
HB
Klick here:
http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=K%C3%B6nigsberger+strasse,+frankfurt&daddr=Burgholzh%C3%A4user+Stra%C3%9Fe,+Bad+Homburg+vor+der+H%C3%B6he+to:Gr%C3%BCninger+Weg,+Pohlheim+to:T%C3%B6nisvorst+to:heidweg+1,+br%C3%BCggen+to:August-Thyssen-Stra%C3%9Fe,+kaarst+to:halenseestrasse,+berlin+to:Dieselstrasse,+leinfelden&geocode=Fczl_AIdN6CDACkbead-dAm9RzEeKm1JyeOCpg%3BFdeB_gIdlnSEACm5WC7figa9RzFoc3keh1efaQ%3BFfsOAwMdLXuFACkB-gBydve8RzH3FnY6WxOGlQ%3BFZUaDwMdeQdjACnHPjwFy6i4RzHQdipK_GAnBA%3BFZo3DgMdv2deACkNwuO71lPHRzFZV__LXiT5Vw%3BFXBsDQMdtThlACkjKjDkhbO4RzEeTT5G0tW0xQ%3B%3B&hl=de&mra=ls&sll=50.008945,7.674585&sspn=5.218259,9.656982&ie=UTF8&ll=50.597186,9.733887&spn=5.154072,9.656982&z=7
There's other good clubs, but that should do for 8 days.
HB
Klick here:
http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=K%C3%B6nigsberger+strasse,+frankfurt&daddr=Burgholzh%C3%A4user+Stra%C3%9Fe,+Bad+Homburg+vor+der+H%C3%B6he+to:Gr%C3%BCninger+Weg,+Pohlheim+to:T%C3%B6nisvorst+to:heidweg+1,+br%C3%BCggen+to:August-Thyssen-Stra%C3%9Fe,+kaarst+to:halenseestrasse,+berlin+to:Dieselstrasse,+leinfelden&geocode=Fczl_AIdN6CDACkbead-dAm9RzEeKm1JyeOCpg%3BFdeB_gIdlnSEACm5WC7figa9RzFoc3keh1efaQ%3BFfsOAwMdLXuFACkB-gBydve8RzH3FnY6WxOGlQ%3BFZUaDwMdeQdjACnHPjwFy6i4RzHQdipK_GAnBA%3BFZo3DgMdv2deACkNwuO71lPHRzFZV__LXiT5Vw%3BFXBsDQMdtThlACkjKjDkhbO4RzEeTT5G0tW0xQ%3B%3B&hl=de&mra=ls&sll=50.008945,7.674585&sspn=5.218259,9.656982&ie=UTF8&ll=50.597186,9.733887&spn=5.154072,9.656982&z=7I have just looked at your map. Artemis is an enormous detour. Is Artemis really that good (as in do I need to try it?) or would SimplyX be better off leaving aside Artemis and spending extra time in one of the many other NRW options or ColA?
I guess my question is selfishly motivated. I have never been to Artimis nor hitherto regarded it as a real destination FKK at the level of the Hessen 3 or GT etc. I am happy to stand corrected.
Wherever you go SimplyX, have fun.
I am thinking of visiting Frankfurt FKK clubs on thanksgiving weekend Nov 26 - 29. Need advice from senior members if this is good time to visit.Thanksgiving is only celebrated in the US and Canada.
Palace 5 November.
The place is just great. The girls are really aggressive. I don't have a problem with that. I always find an excuse. Anyway, I like the fact that they are coming to me and I can fondle them even if I don't go to the room.
1. Tan or Tai or whatever Chinese (who cares? ). She even lubed me to suck! Everything mechanical. She demanded that I don't fuck 'non-stop' for ½ hour because her pussy was getting stressed.. A waste of time and money. Stay away. 2/10.
2. Marqueta hungary/italy (see Romanian). Kind of tall and young short hair blond. Baby face I would say. One good session in the kino. Not great. 7/10
3. Mariana Bulgarian. She was the best of all. No upsale, just good, honest and passionate sex. Big blonde girl. 9/10.
4. Sissy greek. Kind of short, bleeched blonde. Same like Marianna but less enthousiasm. 8/10
5. Rubi italy (see Romanian). Slim and sexy girl. Promising at the beginning but in a hurry afterwards. Maybe due to time (03:40 pm). 7/10.
Yes, she is. Dilara is her name, well-known from sunken Atlantis.
HB
Turkish? I was under the impression she's from Central Asia (e.g. Kazakhstan or Turkmenistan). Perhaps it's not the same Dilara. The one Palace girl of that name that I know is in her late 30s, as I said Central Asian, more than usually GFE-minded, but unfortunately has put on quite a bit of weight in these last couple of years.
Angus Magee
11-08-09, 09:28
I have just looked at your map. Artemis is an enormous detour. Is Artemis really that good (as in do I need to try it?) or would SimplyX be better off leaving aside Artemis and spending extra time in one of the many other NRW options or ColA?
I guess my question is selfishly motivated. I have never been to Artimis nor hitherto regarded it as a real destination FKK at the level of the Hessen 3 or GT etc. I am happy to stand corrected.
Wherever you go SimplyX, have fun.
Have a look at the Artemis thread. There are plenty of posts there by which to judge if Artemis is worth it. Also have a look at my Oct. tour report in the RoD thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=948086&postcount=308
Especially in the last wrap up I do compare Artemis with Oase.
Personally I am not sure that if I was touring the Hessen clubs I would make the 4 hour either way detour just to visit Artemis. Artemis does somethings well but also has its' problems. And do remember that my view of Artemis comes from spending perhaps 2-3 evenings per month in the club. So for me it just may be a wee bit over exposed.
Vito Corleone
11-08-09, 10:03
I don't want to initiate a flame discussion, but I can't stop being surprised that some guys post questions like that.
Hum, what about action in the US on Bastille day? ( yes , I know, it does not matter, since there is no action in the Us on any day anayway...)
Sorry, usel;ss post, just iognore it, my apologies.
Are the clubs open on Veterans Day? I am in town for 3 days & want to make sure. Thanks!
Hessen Bub
11-08-09, 10:41
Turkish? I was under the impression she's from Central Asia (e.g. Kazakhstan or Turkmenistan). Perhaps it's not the same Dilara. The one Palace girl of that name that I know is in her late 30s, as I said Central Asian, more than usually GFE-minded, but unfortunately has put on quite a bit of weight in these last couple of years.
You're talking Dinara, she's from Kazakhstan. Haven't seen her around in a while but might have missed her.
HB
Turkish? I was under the impression she's from Central Asia (e.g. Kazakhstan or Turkmenistan). Perhaps it's not the same Dilara. The one Palace girl of that name that I know is in her late 30s, as I said Central Asian, more than usually GFE-minded, but unfortunately has put on quite a bit of weight in these last couple of years.
I remember an extraordinary session with a Turkish girl called Dilara at the FKK Palacesome time ago. Report is here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=602015&highlight=palace#post602015
Personally I am not sure that if I was touring the Hessen clubs I would make the 4 hour either way detour just to visit Artemis. Artemis does somethings well but also has its' problems. And do remember that my view of Artemis comes from spending perhaps 2-3 evenings per month in the club. So for me it just may be a wee bit over exposed.
Thanks Angus,
You have confirmed my existing impression. Artemis is a nice club if its closest, but it's not worth me breaking away from Hessen and NRW just to visit.
I noted that your reports suggested that you had not visited World or GT. If you still haven't, I strongly recommend you give them a try. World has great facilities, GT has Oase class girls at NRW prices.
Have fun
P
Rufus T Firefly
11-09-09, 07:08
Are the clubs open on Veterans Day? I am in town for 3 days & want to make sure. Thanks!Vito,
the US Veterans Day was originally called Armistice Day by the winning side and observed the anniversary of the ceasefire which occurred on the 11th Hour, 11th day, of the 11th month of 1918. It was later renamed in the US to honor all military veterans.
I'll give you a hint: the clubs will follow the same practice on the 4th of July.
Warning: all the clubs close in observance of "National Frozen Food Week."
Rufus
Ekliges Lauern
11-09-09, 13:12
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Rather quite day.
1. Linda from Chech. New one. Tall, great looks, caramel complex, short spike black hair, great body. BUT: as we entered the room and I told her to go for the 30' she asked persistently for "a present just for her". Told her no (I believe presents are never asked for). During the session she lied to me that we entered 10' earlier than the real time and I corrected her. At the locker she asked for the present again and finally left without even saying "bye" because she didn't get any present at all! Maybe fuck her just for looks. Maybe I should have told the manager about her attitude.5/10
2. Brenda hungarian. not exactly slim, blonde medium length hair. Slutty look and smile you will never forget. Low profile in the lounge but great bj and the rest is history...9/10
3. Simone chech. Skinny, shy tallish blonde, nothing special. 6/10.
My favorite post for 2009! I am doing the Tiger Woods fist pump as I type!
You mean, you can type and wank off at the same time? :) I'll have to try that myself sometime...sounds like fun...
Would that be his putter or five iron?
Friedberger
11-10-09, 20:38
is the Trukish MILF Dilara/Dilarad still a regular at palace?Dilara is indeed a regular at Palace and and absolute certainty for the best GFE you could imagine. She has been one of my regulars since I got to "know" her at Atlantis. I always spend an hour with her first and then proceed to the more adventurous part of my Palace visits: finding a new partner! Her BBBJ is superb, with deep throat and licking all around the other sensitive areas. She also loves to receive oral. To find her, look behind the top bar towards the slot machine, or at the tables outside the smoking room. She is about 5'6'' in her heels, no tatoos, and, although she always used to walk around completely naked, now seems to prefer a pink bikini outfit. She is very slim, with a superbly tuned hardbody, has lightly tanned skin, C cup plastic boobs and long auburn hair. She also speaks excellent English. As an FKK regular and long time lurker on this board (I know, I know, but I promise to contribute more regularly!!) I recommend Dilara highly. Other Palace recommendations: Sofie from Germany; blond, about 5'6'', slim, natural B cups, tends to sit at the corner of the bar just above the steps, near Gina and her other blond Czech friends
Sorry for the title but I just had my newbie visit to an FKK and I was pleasantly suprised with the ladies despite a lot of negative reports I saw recently. There were beautiful women waiting to service me, and I had zero issues with atttitude and up-selling.
HOW?
I simply talked to them before we went to the room. By the way, language was not a problem. They all spoke varying degrees of English. This is how it typically went with each:
I basically started with "I want to go with you but I have two problems". When I said "problem", her ears perked up.
I said that the first problem is that I only do the 50 euro package. She was fine with that.
Then I said that I like to go nice and slow and if she is looking for a fast finish, I am not the one for her. She was fine with that too. Realistically, these are not really problems but things we should be getting anyway.
Anyhow, I had great service from each of the five women I fucked that day. Kissing, bare back blow jobs, no upsell. Etc.
I am pretty sure the talking was the reason, it can not me my looks or smooth talking, beleieve me, I have no game.
Bottom line; I had a great time in my first ever at this FKK. If ever go to Frankfurt again, I am sure I will blow all my cash there. What a place.
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Fkk FIRST VISIT REPORT
I finally had a chance to go to an FKK last Friday, which happened to be the Palace. What a great place. The previous reports definitely helped. Despite the negative reports about upselling and attitude I read, I decided to take a chance and I am gald did.
I had great service from the five ladies I fucked that day. I am sure my talking before the session to the beauty of my choice helped. I wrote a separate report just about that.
So, here is a report on the girls specifcally. ALL of these for 50 euro each. Did I say I loved this place?
Juda (? ) from Poland. Blonde with big breasts walking nude in a fishnet cover. Easily the prettiest blonde in the place and she knows it. Great body. When she approached me; she got me, no way I could say no. She sucked me for a bit and swithced to some furious fucking for a quick finish. I slowed her down a bit to enjoy the session. Nice rear view. Pretty but not good in bed.
Natalya from? . Small, she has blonde curly hair. Wow, she was on fire in bed. Passionate kissing and sucking, 69, good lay. Nice.
Vanessa from Spain/Germany. She is a brunette with the shapeliest breasts. Nice in bed. Very enjoyable. Great fuck in bed.
Linda from Check Rep. This was her first day. She is a brunette with spiked hair. She is like a white Rihanna. I just saw a report on her that was so and so, but I had great service. She is just gorgeous and has a nice body. Great blow job with eye contact, she got on top and rode me hard, then doggy and finish missionary. Wow, I was exhasuted but content. This is the one I think first when I think back to Friday.
Udala (? ) from Russia. Blonde/red hair with nice freckles. She may have 5 extra pounds on her but it suits her so nicely. I was really exhausted but I could not help myself. SHe got me in the Kino. I told her I have been busy and I do not know if I can ever get it up again. Well, she had the hottest tongue and mouth and got me hard, so off we go. Wow, she has passionate kissing and slurpy sucking action. I was really impressed.
I hope this was helpful. So, even a FKK newbie like myself can have a great time. If I go to Frankfurt again, I am afraid I will be a poor (and sexually exhausted man) when I leave. Hey, you live once.
Ekliges Lauern
11-11-09, 23:57
Would that be his putter or five iron?Golf tee or scoring pencil, I suspect.
I've been to this club sever, l times. My most recent was on a Tuesday am, arriving around 1230am. the selection was the poorest ever at an fkk for me. I was shocked at the low level of talent. as well, quantity was lacking. had two ladies. Neither was very satisfying. I made 2 choices. The first was so unmemorable as to be my second worst fkk experience. "why aren't you doing more. " uh, okay its late. Whatever. Maybe some of this was my fault.
The second was a Chinese gal. I always have a heart for the asians, even if I am in germany. Usually don't eat asian when in rome, but she just seemed to know how to touch. She was a bit better. I was very sleepy but she went for my nether regions and brought me home.
The remodel is nice. Foood is goood. Monday night late. Hmm, bit of a disapppointment.
Just seen some attractive flights to Frankfurt this weekend, thinking I might treat myself to an afternoon / evening / night in Palace.
Last time I was there, there was a cracking thai chick called Nina in Palace, is she still there?
What other thai girls are there currently?
Any recommendations?
Ciepkahunter
11-18-09, 16:21
I've been to the Palace a number of times during visits to Frankfurt. I have to say my last two visits were dreadful.
First of all, the redesign of the interior - while very nice - has reduced the quality of mongering, IMHO. The hammam area is gone, replaced by a restaurant area. The hammam was a good area to relax and get a massage in between sessions with girls. The restaurant area certainly is modern and efficient but I would not say it is a place to recuperate. There is also a new enclosed area for smokers in the main room of the club. As a non-smoker, I originally thought this to be a good idea but it seems that a large number of girls at Palace spend time in this room, taking them away from circulating around the club. Finally, there is a 'club within a club' concept that has been opened, ostensibly to sell overpriced bottles of champagne as well as cocktails - I think this is a step in the wrong direction....
So my last two visits were on a Sunday evening and a Monday afternoon/evening. On Sunday there were very few girls to be found and a crowd of Italians that only got larger as the evening went on. I have nothing against Italy, but in this case these guys sort of ruined the evening - with one very hairy chap pole dancing in his underwear on stage in the center of the club. Not once but several times - to the cheers of 30 or so other Italians. The Palace staff seemed to encourage it. Not really what I paid 65 Euro entry to see...
I did end up meeting a girl from Greece. Took her to a room for 30 minutes (50 Euros). Very much a GFE experience. Spoke good English, DFK was offered, and was very good at BBBJ. Finished her off with reverse cowgirl. Not the best looker in the club but much more friendly and service-oriented than the other girls that evening. Sorry - can't remember her name but she was the only Greek gal working there she said.
On Monday, I returned to the Palace in mid-afternoon. Again, tons of Italians. Probably a ratio of 3/1, men to women. I asked the bartender why they are attracting so many guys in from one country - evidently there are extremely cheap flights from Rome to Frankfurt so they are coming up for a night or two to visit FKKs then flying home. Again, nothing against Italy - it's just when you get a huge group of guys that seem to know each other, the dynamic of the club changes for the worse if you are not part of the 'pack.'
Ended up having a session with "Ania" from Poland. Most of the time I have had amazingly good service from Polish gals. This girl was the exception. Of medium height, slim with nice B-cups, Ania is a looker for sure. But once in the room she tried to upsell me to CIM and a longer session before we even got started. No DFK or even LFK. Definitely mechanical in BBBJ. Not worth the money.
I also hooked up with a Cuban girl - can't remember her name - she was very good in the room (DFK, sloppy BBBJ, not rushed in finishing, etc.).
On my next visit to NRW and Frankfurt, I'll rent a car to check out clubs that have a better ratio of guys/gals. Palace was disappointing on this visit. Glad that I spent one evening at FKK Atlantik, a smaller club a short train ride away from Frankfurt.
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Hessen Bub
11-19-09, 11:07
The hammam area is gone, replaced by a restaurant area. The hammam was a good area to relax and get a massage in between sessions with girls.
The hamam was closed end of 2006 and replaced by the girl's lockers when they opened the new area in the former girl's lockers. The restaurant was opened just a few weeks ago. The new part next to the massage and the steam bath is a nice area to relax.
There is also a new enclosed area for smokers in the main room of the club. As a non-smoker, I originally thought this to be a good idea but it seems that a large number of girls at Palace spend time in this room, taking them away from circulating around the club.
That's what German laws require. Non-smoking in the main room plus dedicated and separated smoking areas. Other clubs like World or Oase do more or less ignore the law.
Not really what I paid 65 Euro entry to see...
Entrance is 75 EUR. Unless you use "6for5", then it comes down to 62,50 EUR.
HB
Devilspinkick
11-19-09, 12:05
Made a return trip to the Palace last weekend just to see what I had been missing. I had just arrived from a direct flight from San Fancisco to Frankfurt, so the 9 hours time difference was catching up to me. I downed a few cans of energy drinks and arrived at The Palace just a bit after 4PM. The lady at the desk was in a pissy mood for some reason (she said as much). Frankfurt isn´t known for it's friendliness anyway. Have to go to Berlin or Hamburg for that.
I got showered up, and thanks to the info from another poster I found the showers that actually have hot water. When I hit the main area it wasn't very busy, but still better than how I remembered it last time. The ladies where rather aggressive that day. I was first approached by a blonde gal from Poland that was decent looking and had a nice rack. Surprisingly, she remembered me from my previous trip. I had only been there one time before and that was over a year ago from what I can recall. She said that I went with a friend of her's named Vanessa and she even had an general idea of my profession. Impresssive. These ladies must have a data base full of info on us guys. I didn't go with her at the time but told her maybe later. Met quite a few of the ladies and spent a good amount of time talking and snuggling. Cash must be tight around here because a lot of the chicks were putting on the hard sell.
There was a gal from Egypt & one from Greece - both rather plain looking but not horrible either. Talked to one chica who said she was from Brazil, but when I spoke to her in Portuguese she gave me a blank look and had no idea what I said - so I have to assume that in reality she's African or maybe from the Caribbean. Even saw a lady that looked to be from Japan or maybe Korea, I was engaged with another gal at that moment so I didn't get the chance to chat with her. Even ran into Clara again. I didn't recognize her at first because she had a different hair style and has newly enhanced boobs. Still has a great little body on her. She tried to get me to go with her again, but despite the nice body and she talks a good game - from my memory she simply wasn't that good in the sack. So I had to decline her advances.
Concerning the ladies I did go with .... the first was a gal from Romania named Yulia (sp?). She had a very exotic look with tanned skin and long, black hair. Had a good time with her and I could almost describe it as GFE. Not long afterwards I hooked up with a lady named Aliz from Hungary. She was petite with a lean body. She wasn't as good as Yulia (IMO) but she was quite good at oral. To top the night off, I went with a brunette cutie from Hungary named Jessica. The sex was rather bland, but in her defense she was the third chick in a day and the effects of jet-lag was definitely taking it's toll. Very pretty girl none-the-less.
I was approached by quite a few blonde Polish ladies as well. Didn´t go with any of them but that's not because I have anything against Poles or blondes. That's just the way it turned out.
I had a pretty good time at The Palace this time around. It's definitely better to visit on a Wed - Sat, as opposed to a Sunday or Monday. I still prefer Oase, however The Palace does have some advantages to include newer facilities and definitely closer to Frankfurt proper. Hope to visit again in the near future.
"O tempora, O mores"
- DSK
Recently visited Palace. When I was checking in, the receptionist asked if I wanted to stay less than 2 hours or full time. She explained if I left within 2 hours, she would give me 25 Euro back. This must be a new system. I chose fully time option, but for those with limited time, this might be a good option.
As other members mentioned, I noticed the new restaurant area. I liked the setting, and the food they serve was as good as it used to be.
Day shift was light on the looks department, but as night shift started to come in, the view definitely improved.
I spent time with Alice from Budapest, Hungary. She was medium height (with heels, of course), with dark hair, dark eyes, and incredible bod. She said she was 21 yr old. I did pick up a bad vibe from her (the vibe processors and upsellers would give), but decided to spend time with her because she was so easy on the eyes. I ended up regretting not trusting my instinct.
No sooner than entering into the room, Alice started upselling. CIM for 50, BLS for 50, etc. She only offered LFK. Her BBBJ was more like HJ with limited BJ. I was so turned off and decided to finish off quickly. After 12 minutes, we were out of the room.
One interesting thing Alice mentioned was that she used to work at World. She moved to Palace about 4 months ago because there were too many girls at World. My previous experience at World was simply lack of number of girls. The situation must have changed. If so, I would consider giving another chance to FKKW.
I spotted a few more nice looking ones. But I did not pick up good vibe from any. I stayed for 3 - 4 more hours, and decided to call it off for the night. Will be back again shortly and see if it's going to be any better.
Rain City thanks for your report, in my experience and btw I went to Hungary too, the hungarian girls are really girls that seldom provide GFE, mostly they are so "hot" they could cool down your coca cola if they hold in their hands a while.....IMHO.
Btw once you are in the bedroom, if before to start the session she immediately starts to upsell, could you delete the session and go out without get into some problems or once the door is closed you have at least to pay the basic 30 minutes ?
Basketcase
11-22-09, 22:48
Btw once you are in the bedroom, if before to start the session she immediately starts to upsell, could you delete the session and go out without get into some problems or once the door is closed you have at least to pay the basic 30 minutes ?
Assuming that no sexual relations have happened yet then my guess is that potentially you could get away with not paying anything. The guess is at the Palace and some other places including Oase that you would get a real hard time and be told by the girl that you owe her at least 50€.
There are probably a lot of senior members that will now say that they would have got away with it and not paid a red cent. You have just have to be tough and be prepared to go to the Reception to explain yourself.
Basketcase
11-22-09, 22:56
I spent time with Alice from Budapest, Hungary. She was medium height (with heels, of course), with dark hair, dark eyes, and incredible bod. She said she was 21 yr old. I did pick up a bad vibe from her (the vibe processors and upsellers would give), but decided to spend time with her because she was so easy on the eyes. I ended up regretting not trusting my instinct.
No sooner than entering into the room, Alice started upselling. CIM for 50, BLS for 50, etc. She only offered LFK. Her BBBJ was more like HJ with limited BJ. I was so turned off and decided to finish off quickly. After 12 minutes, we were out of the room.
I spotted a few more nice looking ones. But I did not pick up good vibe from any. I stayed for 3 - 4 more hours, and decided to call it off for the night. Will be back again shortly and see if it's going to be any better.
Rain City,
Wow, so your visit to Palace ended in just one session. Is that right? Was that the intention for the one session? This means your visit to Palace was €125 for a 12 minute suck and fuck with more hand job than suck for the initial BBBJ.
I am probably with you that World apart from Fridays and Saturdays does not have an abundance of women.
I did hear that Palace had a policy that girls had to be 21 years or older to work there so Alice being 21 years old sounds right. I remember some of the Oase 18, 19 and 20 year olds complaining about this is why they worked at Oase or World instead.
Alice charging €50 extra for BLS is nuts if you excuse the pun. What a rip off when you compare that as standard service from other girls. I guess the main benefit was that Alice was such a looker and some of the shallower of us would say to have paid €50 to have my cock in her mouth and to be able to bang such a good looking babe is worth 50€ since to do something similar at home AND in such safe, clean and luxurious surroundings cannot be competed with.
Hessen Bub
11-23-09, 08:55
I spent time with Alice from Budapest, Hungary. She was medium height (with heels, of course), with dark hair, dark eyes, and incredible bod. She said she was 21 yr old. I did pick up a bad vibe from her (the vibe processors and upsellers would give), but decided to spend time with her because she was so easy on the eyes. I ended up regretting not trusting my instinct.
No sooner than entering into the room, Alice started upselling.
One interesting thing Alice mentioned was that she used to work at World. She moved to Palace about 4 months ago because there were too many girls at World. My previous experience at World was simply lack of number of girls. The situation must have changed. If so, I would consider giving another chance to FKKW.
Yes, she was working at World before she came to Palace. I still think she is Romanian though. Did have a standard session with her at World. Upselling - no, she just asked if I want CIM. Which I did. A friend just had a good session with her at Palace.
And yes, there's too many girls at World - at least from their perspective and considering the number of men.
Palace doesn't take any girls under 21. That's a fact.
HB
Palace doesn't take any girls under 21. That's a fact.
HB
May be true now. A few years ago it wasn't. Remember celbrating a favorite's 19th b-day. She showed me her real ID to prove.
Harry Hymes
11-23-09, 10:37
I was in The Palace two weeks ago, a Sunday, on a short layover. Checked around and Alice seemed the most beautiful girl around. Went to the cinema. She appeared there and proposed service. I accepted and got OWOTC right there (Vanessa was being fucked nearby, on my line-of-vision, which improved the overall experience). Good service, totally worth the price (100 EUR).
Sometime later, as I was looking to a full service session with anal, I couldn't find in the premises anyone more promising than her, so I decided to pick her again. It was an one hour session (100 EUR) plus anal (+100 EUR) plus one extra she proposed and I accepted (anal stimulation with a vibrator during OWO; +50 EUR).
So, the girl did a total of 350 EUR from me that day. I did not find her lacking in any regard and I certainly did not find her a pusher/up-seller. My experience.
Me and my friend had dinner right after the session. During dinner, a girl appeared who was really DDG. We looked her in awe, but by then it was to late. After dinner, we had to rush to the airport.
All in all, FWIW, I recommend Alice.
Its been a while since I have been to Palace, so please forgive my comments if they are out of date.
My first experiences of upselling at Palace were terrible, and really destroyed the atmosphere of the sessions.
After a while I came to the view that given the tourist traffic and city centre location, the girls were never going to be happy with a standard €50 session. There were some honourable exceptions to this rule, but in the main most girls were unhappy at a payback of €50 /half hour.
I then began to pre-arrange sessions with girls I liked, including a negotiation of prices and extras, ensuring that the extras were clearly understood. The girls would then find me later in the evening, and were happy to give a good unpressured session, and were full on pre-session and during the waiting time for the room.
This approach did not always work, but for me it turned my evenings at Palace from from an unpleasant wrangle over upselling to a relaxed normal environment, but at the cost of at least €100 a pop.
YMMV.
Hessen Bub
11-23-09, 18:38
May be true now. A few years ago it wasn't. Remember celbrating a favorite's 19th b-day. She showed me her real ID to prove.
Yep. That's an agreement with the Frankfurt authorities from 2007.
HB
My first visit to an FKK began as I entered Palace at 2pm Thursday and there were about 20-25 girls available and about 20 guys. The numbers of increased between 5pm-7pm to about 50 girls & 60 guys. The number of guys grew to about 80 and by 9pm getting a room without a delay became a small problem. Sometimes a 10-minute was required. In terms of quality I would consider a session with all bar 3 or 4 girls. A few girls were really stunning.
I thought I was sort of prepared for Palace as I quite happy to choose an optifuck knowing that I can always get lots from the session. However, the machine system. "lets go" followed by "lets get you an orgasm asap" followed by the girl developing "unhappiness that session reaches 20min" or "unhappiness that session actually involves 15min of sex" left me disenchanted.
I also detected "unhappiness" stemmed from the failure to upsell. I was not interested in extras and made that clear before agreeing to the session but either the girls thought they could persuade me or simply took the view that they were worth more than 50€ per session.
There is a mass psychology in play amongst the girls to process customers and get onto the next one asap. A good session for a girl lasts 15min. An OK session 20min. Longer than that then they are losing time to get the next customer. There does not seem to be any concept of girls properly relating to the customer and providing good service in order to generate repeat business. This is understandable (but not apprecieted by me) as the trade off between extra effort and time spent verses revenue generated by quick processing means later possibility is more sensible.
An observation about The Machine system is the ratio of girls to guys is misleading. Guys get processed quick 15-20min average then in nearly all cases they are not looking for a girl for the next hour or two. This means that even with 2 girls for 3 guys ratio. There are actually probably 3 girls hunting for 1 active guy who will go to the room even when Palace is busy.
As for visiting Palace again – probably not. Oase & World are very much superior.
Anisha. Lebonese. Long straight blackhair. High checkbones wearing black waspie. 165cm. I arrived wanting to take my time, see all the girls and look around the club before my first session. I managed to do this and was approached by a number of girls including Anisha who persistent hunting for customers. She had a great look and I was in the top 3 most attractive girls at the club. So after her 3rd approach to her I decided OK. I did get the wrong vibe from her but by now my blood was up and brain was not functioning. I asked to go to Kino. We went there for 5min then to room. No kissing. Session lasted 20min and she said "that was hard" (work). Covered BJ, no kissing. Hmmmm. My feeling after this session was I felt I had been processed.
Saskia. German. Darkish Blonde hair, fantastic model looking face and body. She is from Cologne usually works 2 days a week. 175cm. German Croat parents. She told me she is over 30 years old looks 25. BBBJ and kissing and several positions. Best session and would definitely return. Saskia is quite passive and I never saw her approach anyone so if you want her you will have to make the approach.
Laura. Spanish 28yrs, from Canaries lives in Madrid 170cm bouncy brunette, very well stacked enhanced boobs. I was attracted to her and thought about a future session with her when she first came into my view. Laura arrived, I told her just been with girl 15min ago, she was not put off and proceeded to touch me all over, she offered me her lips which I kissed, she said lets go now to the room, I said I wanted to but was not capable for some time. She then demanded 25 euros for the kiss & created a scene. After a few mins of discussion I decided to go to the room with her. CBJ. Good kisser. Actually quite good in the room. Laura is going back to Spain before Christmas and told me she will not be returning as she does not like Germany. Anyway, again felt like I had been processed.
Jessica. Hungary, Budapest. 21yrs, 165cm Long dark/black hair. Slim, lovely proportions, really pretty. BBBJ, nice session. But could see after 15min the wish in her eyes and face to finish asap.
Anna. Poland from Poznan. Mid-20s, 165cm. Brunette with blonde highlights. Told her truth that it will take time to make me cum as I had seen 4 girls beforehand. Her respond was OK it is fine. And held up her end of the bargain and put in effort. Session lasted 25min but can see it in her eyes and face she wanting me to finish asap.
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It seems like this is a typical YMMV situation. For those who had good sessions with Alice, I don't doubt that. If I was in the mood of CIM, Anal, or other services she wanted to add, I would have been fine. I tend to be put off by upsellers. Others may not be so affected?
There are still some girls who offer nice GFE at Palace (Bea from Thailand, just to name one). So I am sure I will continue to visit Palace. But I doubt that I will have another session with Alice, although she is probably one of the most beautiful girls at Palace now.
Yep. That's an agreement with the Frankfurt authorities from 2007.
HB
Makes sense. I think I had my fun with Jenny from Kassel (brunette, spinal tattoo, amazing natural breasts and ass, legs like engine pistons, perfect for very energetic tit-bouncing cowgirl) back in Jan '06.
Chuckle One
11-25-09, 00:39
Hi guys,
First time poster here but I have been lurking for quite a while. I am not new to mongering having enjoyed a few WG encounters from Manhattan Bar on TL in Shanghai and one drunken, mostly forgotten night in Dusseldorf's Dolce Vite. On home turf I am an SC man but while away I like to delve a little deeper in to the Hobby.
Recently I found myself with the opportunity for a short layover in Frankfurt so I perused the ISG German FKK thread and decided upon The Palace. I was arriving in FRA around Sunday noon and had to be out by 8 am Monday so decided to stay as close as possible. As luck would have it The Fleming Hotel is right next door to The Palace and fairly reasonably priced at 80 euro per night.
Having just read Talbot's report before posting, I could not agree more. As you will read I had three separate sessions and while each was enjoyable in various ways, all except my last one left something to be desired.
I got to the Palace around 3:30 pm and found that the entrance fee was 75 Euro ($110 us): fairly steep and I hesitated until I spied a slim, statuesque black girl sporting natural Ds walking about fully starkers. SOLD! Rules were explained that the 75 got you access until closing and that it was 50 Euro (US $75) for each lady for one half hour. Anything extra was all negotiable with the individual lady. I grabbed a robe and towel, collected my locker key and headed to the showers.
As it was a Sunday afternoon, I did not expect the selection of ladies to be too great. Wrong. This was my first time at The Palace and as I spent a few minutes exploring the facility I noticed several attractive Polish / Czech girls, a few Hispanic looking ladies and Bingo! Two gorgeous Thai girls. Their names were Terri and Nang. Terri is definitely "the bait" very sweet and seductive, invites me in to the Kino to watch some cinema and after a few minutes of mutual fondling she suggested asking her friend Nang to join us. By this time the little admiral had taken over and I had no choice but to agree. Unfortunately as the aggressive Nang joined the fray on that big comfy couch, things got a little heated and that same little admiral decided to fire an I'll advised shot over the bow! Yikes! Luckily I was able to hide it from them and politely excused myself to the men's room to clean up before heading straight to the rooms. In hindsight I should have stalled a few more minutes in the kino to give myself time to recover. Honestly, watching Terri and Nang administer a dual BBBJ was like watching two robins trying to drag a worm out of the earth.. Not exactly what I imagined. Unfortunately despite their best efforts I could not manage another SOG. I decided to try and make the best of it, enjoying some DFK, digits, DATY and Russian massage with both girls. Fairly pathetic I know especially since I was going to be on the hook for 100 euros. In the end I bowed out gracefully, thanked them for their time, dropped the money and headed back to the showers. Ugh
Licking my wounds I spent an hour or so alternating between the steam bath, sauna, whirlpool and showers. I spent a few minutes chatting up Vanessa, Russian with unbelievable man mades and a pornstar body that just rocked. I actually thought she might take pleasure in hurting me in some way if I did not take her up on the upsell options she offered so I pulled back and went in search of the chocolate beauty I spied earlier. Unable to locate her I did hook up with Pia, a lovely Dominican gal with generous fakes and a sweet ass. She knew little to no English and my Spanish sucks so after sharing a few sodas(no beer here and at 25 euros a shot for liquor I was tea totalling) we headed back to the rooms where I more than made up for my earlier short comings?. Pia was very much a GFE with excellent BBBJ skills and very responsive in multiple positions. She wanted 50 Euro extra for CIM but I decided to keep the hoody on and finish in traditional style. She was a little restrictive claiming here nipples were too sensitive to be played with and digits were definitely out. All in all I enjoyed myself but was not yet ready to retreat to the hotel.
After another lengthy sauna and shower I went to the restaurant and took part in the cafeteria style food service. Not 5 or even 3 star by any means but it was hot and filling. From there I went back to the reading room, hunkered down on one of the sofas and alternated between napping and reading for almost two hours.
By the time I returned to the main floor area it appeared as if several more girls had come on shift. It was 9:00 pm Sunday evening and I counted at least 30 girls at any one given time. There were two very attractive spinner type blondes, several Brazilian girls – Salome in particular really turned my crank but I was not yet ready to make my 3rd foray to the rooms. While I was sitting at the bar enjoying a few girls pole dancing on the upper stage, a stunning young blonde by the name of Gina approached me. I was sold as soon as her hand rode up my thigh. As with most of the other girls in the club she sported a set of bolt-ons but they were tastefully understated and perky, like an obedient pair of puppies. I told her this was my third go round and I was looking for a dirty PSE performance. Gina delivered in spades with lots of dirty talk, aggressive BBBJ, multiple positions and a shot over those lovely mams all for 60 Euro – yeah big spender tipped a whole 10.
Again I concur with Talbot that The Machine like atmosphere and 15 minute rush sessions were underwhelming. I enjoyed my time at The Palace but cannot help feeling that I overpaid ($430) for what I got. Next time I will venture out further to Oase.
Thanks for reading my first review on ISG. With trips sched for Vegas and Shanghai/Beijing in December I hope to post more.
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Hessen Bub
11-25-09, 07:58
I enjoyed my time at The Palace but cannot help feeling that I overpaid ($430) for what I got. Next time I will venture out further to Oase.
You did not overpay (besides the 10 EUR tip ;) ). And prices for the girls at Oase are the same as at Palace, you will save 10 EUR entrance. But give Oase a try and then decide which club and girls you like better.
HB
Devilspinkick
11-26-09, 06:28
I think that comparison battle will last for eternity. Both places have their good points and bad points - not even going to get into my own opinions at this time. But both are worth checking out. Then visit the one that suits you best more often.
The Palace definitely has some hot ladies, Oase usually has a decent to excellent line-up. Seems that all the Asian chicks are at Palace now. A couple of Thai chicks kept asking me if I wanted a massage. WTF? I told them if I wanted a good massage I'd be in Thailand - not at an FKK in Germany.
It's nice to have a choice. I like Berlin much more than I do Frankfurt on the Main, but going to the same FKK club all the time and having no other (FKK) options gets old after a while. Plus, there's the Bahnhofsvertiel "ghetto" scene and other naughty things to do. Sin O'plenty!!
- DSK
Harry Hymes
11-28-09, 09:23
I've just read in the "Quotes of the Day" widget on my iGoogle desktop a phrase by Helen Keller: "College isn't the place to go for great ideas.", which made me think that "The Palace isn't the place to go for cheap fucks." Just a thought...
Went back to Palace again and this time, there were more girls than my last visit. I saw Olympia led Romanian clan. the Czech pair (their names escaped me, but they even dressed the same way when they checked into, which made me laugh), and the extremely hot Polish lady, Clara. Unfortunately, Clare only does a session with another Polish lady (cannot remember the name). I don't like this set menu thing. So I declined, but oh what a beauty she was.
I spotted my old friend Ava (Latvia). We got reacquainted and had a nice time. I still have a good time with my old friends, but it seems I haven't met any new GFE for quite some time. And I surely miss my old favorie (German Kim, Czech Natalie, German Jennifer, just to name a few). Where are they now? But more importantly, when can I have nice GFE with new girls at Palace?
Being the fact that i have not posted any reports on this forum in ages, i've decided to share my most recent experience at this wonderful club.
I arrived in Frankfurt on 11/18 and was Jet Lagged for two full days. So i've decided to chill out until i got used to the time change. Nevertheless, during my 9 day visit, i went to Palace on 4 occasions. However, i will only comment on my experiences during my last night there, 11/26. It was by far the best night i've had at Palace or any other place.
I arrived at Palace around 6:00PM and there were a decent amount of girls there. Since it was my last night in Frankfurt before heading back to US, i was going to make it count in a big way. Lucky for me, there were a lot of hot girls there that night. Out of my 4 visits to the club, Thursday seemed to be the best night as far as selection.
I had sessions from 7 ladies that night! i was on fire for sure :). I've had sessions from Cindy, Clara (twice), Chayenne, Sarah, Gina, Yuria, and one hot Romanian blonde (forgot her name but she was really hot!). I am not going to go into details but i can assure you that they were all great. However, Clara, Cindy, and Chayenne were amazing and the best of the bunch.
Cindy and Clara are both from Poland and they are stunning. They claim to be sisters but i'm not sure if they are just making it up. They both provided me with DFK, Positions, DATY, etc for 100 Euros each. They like to tag team together but i preferred them separate. Nevertheless, i did 2 sessions with Clara because she was just so gorgeous and gave the best DFK i've ever had in my life. Man! was she fu*ing amazing.
Chayenne was a stunning brunette from Germany with short hair. She has a very beautiful face and a slim body. She also has a set of enhanced boobs. I went with her for 100 Euros and she provided DFK, DATY, positions, etc. She gave the best blow job i've ever had. I honestly thought i was going to have a heart attack from it! LOL!. She was a great french kisser too. Her beautiful face and tongue made it all the more enjoyable.
I just returned back to the US and i am already having a hard time not missing Germany. I am already planning a trip back for next May. The Palace fu*ing rules. Germans and Europeans are so lucky to have places like this where a man can fulfill his sexual desires with beautiful women. Not in a million years would you find this in the US. It is a sexual prison over here.
Anyway, i hope you all enjoy my post and continue to explore the wonderful offerings of the FKK World.
Eddie
Hey Eddie,
Glad you had a good time, but why did you pay double price for "DFK, Positions, DATY, etc."? Standard fee for this is 50 euro in all FKK's, right (except for 60 at Artemis)? Even if you had the time of your life.
What did you get for your extra 50? Your report lacks a few details on this, and some additional input would be helpful for many of us.
When does the palace die down before the holidays and when does it pick up again? Looking to schedule a trip but want to be sure that all will be in the house.
Gentlemen and any Ladies reading this post, I have not posted here for quite some time. But here's my executive summary of the mighty Hessen 3 clubs (FKK Oase; FKK World & FKK Palace) I have visited over the past 2-3 months. Disclaimer: These are my honest personal opinion on an average of 5-6 visits per club during the winter October & November months.
My reports are based on the following factors:
1) I have visited these clubs many times on a Thursday, Friday & Saturday (cannot comment on other days)
2) I tend to arrive around 4-5 pm and stay still the end.
3) I budget around 300 to 500 Euros per visit (including entrance fees)
4) I tend to squeeze in minimum 4 + sessions per visit
5) I have no preference to race. But if she's: Curvy; Friendly & Smiles a lot. It's a done deal
The 1st award for the most convenient club to travel from Frankfurt City by taxi & pubic transport goes to:
1) Palace (cheap as chips to arrive by taxi & public transport)
2) Oase (cost me on average 40 to 55 Euros from City)
3) World (Cost me over 140 from city or took train to Geissen 13 Euros and taxi 20 Euros to World)
The 2nd award for Best Customer Care & Client Satisfaction
1) World (On One occasion a girl got thrown out because she was rude and nasty to a client. The guy went up to the front desk and complained and the girl was summoned to the reception for her version of events. A few minutes later she was told to pack her bags and go home. Shame as she probably just started and never got her 65 Euros refund)
2) Palace
3) oase
The 3rd award for Best Looking German Line-up
1) Palace (Lina; Melissa; Mandy)
2) Oase (Can't remember their names. But one blonde and one brunette with beautiful tattoos around their bodies)
3) World
The 4th Award for Best and Most Romanian Line-up (Many Italians may find this info helpful)
1) Oase (Anna; Melissa (Anna Nicole Smith lookalike); Alicia or Alyssa. Only 19 and started in November, so she's very tight, but very good)
2) Palace (Marilia. Sometimes short blonde hair or long blonde extension, if you ask her where she's from she would initially say France. Loves to pole dance)
3) World
The 5th Award for Overall best line-up (My personal opinion)
1) Oase
2) Palace (very close second)
3) World
The 6th Award for Youngest Line-ups (Ages between 18-21)
1) Oase (by a mile. They probably get all the overflows from Palace as their minimum age policy is 21)
2) World
3) Palace
The 7th Award for Best Masseurs & Massage Facilities
1) Palace (The Thai Lady & Tatjana are great, The wooden flooring and tantric surrounding
Reminds me of entering the 5* Bangkok Thani Dusit Hotel)
2) World (Killer calf massage. But it was good)
3) Oase (only one bed and always busy)
The 8th Award for Best Sauna; Shower; Pool; Jacuzzi & Steam Facilities
1) World. By a mile
2) Palace
3) Oase
The 9th Award for Best Showers and Changing facilities
1) World
2) Palace (showers can be cold at times)
3) Oase
The 10th Award for Overall Best Club Facilities (Winter times)
1) World
2) Palace
3) Oase
The 11th Award for Hygiene and Club Cleanliness (many discussions on the forum already)
1) World
2) Palace
3) Oase. Rubbish.
The 12th Award for Best Rooms
1) Palace (I prefer mirrors in my rooms. And I always see cleaners busy preparing rooms for next guest)
2) World (Close shave)
3) Oase. A lot to catch up on.
The 13th Award for Overall Best Outdoor Facilities (did not sample as my visits were in Oct & Nov)
1) Oase (Did not sample, but the new pool looks great)
2) World
3) Palace. None
The 14th Award for Best Girl Service
1) Oase (I have asked most girls to give me 5-10 mins trial runs in the Kino and always agree, and service gets better in the rooms)
2) World
3) Palace (They tend to rush a little more than the Oase girls, but service just as good
The 15th Award for Highest numbers of Girls to Guys ratio
1) World. Always more girls than gents
2) Oase. Certain nights there can be a 2-1 ratio of girls to guys
3) Palace. Weekends can be bad, full of tourists and van load of lads and girls are no where to be seen
The 16th Award for the Most Blondes
1) Oase
2) Palace
3) World
The 17th Award for the Best Food
1) Palace (new restaurant and separate eating facilities)
2) World
3) Oase
The 18th Award for the Best Drinks
1) Oase (proper Coke Cola & Coffee). Saturday Cocktail nights are only 5 Euros
2) Palace.
3) World. Although they offer Free beers, but most drinks in cheap plastic cups and they serve flat Pepsi (yuk)
The 19th Award for the Best Music and Party atmosphere:
1) World. Decent Dance tracks.
2) Oase
3) Palace
The 20th Award for my personal favourite club
1) Oase (Purely for the great Service offered by the best line-ups)
2) Palace (nice selection of Blondes)
3) World (thin on quality line-up)
The 21st And Final Award for the Best FFK Contributors to make my trips enjoyable and this summary possible goes to the following legends:
1) BasketCase; DevilSpinkick; Henio; Smuler; Dedalus; Angus Magee; Captain Dan; Toscana; Ortos; Lukasek; Regnad; Hessen Bub; Vito Corleone and many more I have left off.
Feel free to add to this award list.
Ciao for now.
Hi Eddie,
I am glad that you had a great time with Chayenne. I agree with you --she is a gorgeous girl with beautiful face, slim body and nicely augmented breasts. My experience, however, was not as good as yours.
In the room, she told me her "extras". Digits, CIM, COB are 50, anal is 100, and the highlight was, unless I subscribe one of the "extra" services, she would not kiss. That was a big turn off.
Each person is different and perhaps her proposition was not a turn off for you. But I personally do not think highly of her. Just my 2 cents.
Rain City: in regards to Chayenne, she was detailed about the extras before i went to the room with her. However, she is gorgeous so she can demand whatever the hell she wants. She was nice with me though so i decided to have a longer session with her. She might not kiss everyone but when she does, she will leave you wanting more. Awesome experience :). I will definitely be looking for her on my next trip.
Shark: I am aware that the standard is 50 Euros. However, i decided to pay for extra time with the ladies i liked the most. Clearly, the more time you want to spend with the ladies, the more it will cost. I've also enjoyed myself a lot more of course.
hint: i think chemistry between you and the girl can go a long way :). I always try to stay away from the negative vibes. Take your time and choose wisely and you'll have the time of your life.
went to palace last monday for the first time in about 9 months.
it really has gone majorly downhill.
i know it was monday. but it was very quiet inside. not a lot of guys, not a lot girls. maybe 15. 20 tops.
the mood was bad, the attitude's were bad.
i went into the kino for a quick peek and was swiftly grabbed by a turkish girl (can't remember the name). she did the usual all over me stuff, telling me all the bits she'd do. she was very quick to mention cim and a, so i already knew she'd go on about it all session if i went with her, so didn't.
nothing worse than the aggresive upsell during a session (not that it helped me later anyway)
so a few more offers, but nothing really did it for me. there were a couple of stunners, but they almost looked like they were there because they had to b.
so eventually thought, well i can't go home with nothing (well not after a €75 entry fee) so bumped into a girl from budapest (again don't remember names of average sessions).
she had dark long wavey hair, quite petite and thin, but nice little arse.
as i was following her to the room, turkish girl from earlier said something to me, but couldn't make it out.
walking into the room she quickly set up, and got on all fours in front of me giving me a great view of her perky little arse.
so i quickly got to work with my tongue.
she then starting giving me some great bbbj while she gave me a great view of herself fingering her arse.
at this point i thought this was going to be a great one. but thats when it turned
then she asks, so what do you want to do now? i said i wanted to have a bit more of a lick, she replies "we already did that", i'm thinking what?
then the hardsell of anal, cim etc starts, i'm thinking here we go.
so i said i wasnt interested and she quickly took out a condom, put it on, and started riding me, making it clear she had no interest at all after my refusal.
so tried to stretch it out a bit, changed position a couple of times and finished. didn't take too long since it was the first of the day.
shared a cigarette with a bit of no interest conversation and ended it there.
funny thing was about 10 mins later at the bar, turkish girl came over again.
she asks " so was it a good session? " i said it was ok, nothing special.
she asks" did you fuck her in the arse? " i said no, why? because i'm not stupid i said. why would i pay an extra 100 e for that?
she swiftly left.
anyway, i left soon after, asked if i could get a passout, they took some details and was on my way. went to the frankfurt rld instead, found 2 girls in a room, paid them 20e each and they both blew me to finish. funny how their attitude was so much better than palace girls.
didn't bother going back although i was tempted since my hotel was close by.
won't be back there for a long time.
as a side note, went to artemis for the first time ever in berlin a few weeks ago, 3 nights in a row and had an awesome time. will report on that with more detail when i get a chance.
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Shark: I am aware that the standard is 50 Euros. However, i decided to pay for extra time with the ladies i liked the most. Clearly, the more time you want to spend with the ladies, the more it will cost.
I am glad we cleared that one up. Thanks for the report and feedback.
Clara also offered staying for full 30 minutes (even after the pop), giving back massage for 50 Euro. A good deal? A bad deal? Each one of us has a different opinion, I am sure.
Hessen Bub
11-30-09, 10:39
Cindy and Clara are both from Poland and they are stunning. They claim to be sisters but i'm not sure if they are just making it up. They both provided me with DFK, Positions, DATY, etc for 100 Euros each.
So you stayed 1 hour with them? If not, did you do CIM? If not, they did overcharge you.
HB
I was at the Palace this Saturday 28th of November.
I really had a very good moment in there and I will probably return to it this Thursday 4th of December.
Before choosing the girl, I decide to observe how they behave. My motto: I'm the hunter and not the hunted.
So as a hunter I observed: any girl who was over-acting I refused or did not go to her, any girl who hunted I refused or did no go to here, any girl for who I noticed that she did 15mn sessions I did not go there. I applied this rule for any girl even she was looking awesome.
I look for the girls who were acting normally: the ones not hunting, I looked how they behave when they were talking to someone (you can see if a person is behaving "normal" or if she plays to much) and I checked how long they stayed in the room when they had a session and I observed the face of the guy who came out from a session with her.
So I decide to have my first session with Myriame (or Myriama), a german very good looking girl (she is 25 and has long blond curvy hairs). In the room, she started to kiss my body, always looked at me with such a beautiful glance. She asked me what I want to do and that for 100EUR she's going to offer me the best she can. As the first minutes of the session was already awesome, I accepted. I was not disappointed, it was the best session I ever had in a FKK. I stayed with her about 45mn and it was simply incredible. The next time I'm back at the Palace I will book her again.
The second session was with Maya, a spanish girl. In fact it was not the girl who I wanted to choose had a good confusion with another one who almost looks like her but I only noticed it once in the room. Whatever, it was a 50 EUR which was good (not exceptional but good)
My third session was with Lara, a german girl (I think there are several Lara's at the Palace but this one was a german one). She gets her hair like a school girl, she might be about 25, about 1m60, she has black hairs. Once in the room she started kissing me, she had a very beautiful glance and she gave me a very good session for 50EUR.
So to resume, you can have very good GFE moments in the Palace but you just need not to surrender to the sharks even if they are extremely beautiful, observe and respect the girl.
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So you stayed 1 hour with them? If not, did you do CIM? If not, they did overcharge you.
HBSo when you do a double for half an hour it's 50 each and not 100 each? If that is the case I got taken by Gina and Cindy.
Anyone have any idea when it dies down for the holidays and then picks back up? I'd like to go in either December or early January but don't want to go when most of the girls are back home.
Angus Magee
12-01-09, 06:44
So when you do a double for half an hour it's 50 each and not 100 each? If that is the case I got taken by Gina and Cindy.
I am not sure about Palace but at Artemis (Berlin) a double for 1/2 hour would be 60 (Artemis' 1/2 hr. fee) for each girl so 120. But if they had interaction between the girls (e.g. they licked each other's pussy) they could then charge another 60/girl. The extra fee would be the same for the hour session so obviously you get better value the longer the session.
So when you do a double for half an hour it's 50 each and not 100 each? If that is the case I got taken by Gina and Cindy.
I had a twosome the last time I was at Palace. The charge was the standard E50 per half hour per girl plus the Hessen standard E50 per extra per girl.
A straightforward two girl session should be E50+E50 = E100. If you asked them to do a lesboshow, I would expect them each to charge E50 extra, making E200 in all.
... any girl for who I noticed that she did 15mn sessions I did not go there. I applied this rule for any girl even she was looking awesome.
This can be problematic: Did it ever occur to you that maybe it is the Man who quickly finishes within 15 mins and abruptly packs up and leaves the room, and not the Girl? Some men do this, you know. Not every male guest is as sophisticated as me and you, wanting to use the full 30 min session time. Some guys blow their wad and high-tail it out of there...Thus your criterion is not always a certain indicator of the girl's behaviour. Do you agree?
Ortos
Angus Magee
12-01-09, 17:13
This can be problematic: Did it ever occur to you that maybe it is the Man who quickly finishes within 15 mins and abruptly packs up and leaves the room, and not the Girl? Some men do this, you know. Not every male guest is as sophisticated as me and you, wanting to use the full 30 min session time. Some guys blow their wad and high-tail it out of there...Thus your criterion is not always a certain indicator of the girl's behaviour. Do you agree?
Ortos
I had a conversation about just this with my fave Artemis girl, Nicoletta, this past Saturday. Nicoletta tells me that a number of men do just as you describe. They do not want to talk or stretch the session to the full half hour. As soon as they come they are up & out the door.
So yes I would agree that timing other monger's session is not a good indicator to how the session went. Much better is to observe the body language between the girl & the client as they do the financial transaction. This information can be pure gold.
...Much better is to observe the body language between the girl & the client as they do the financial transaction. This information can be pure gold.
I do the same and I think pure gold is also their body languages after the session too, especially how he looks like, happy and tired or too fresh and sad...
This can be problematic: Did it ever occur to you that maybe it is the Man who quickly finishes within 15 mins and abruptly packs up and leaves the room, and not the Girl? Some men do this, you know. Not every male guest is as sophisticated as me and you, wanting to use the full 30 min session time. Some guys blow their wad and high-tail it out of there...Thus your criterion is not always a certain indicator of the girl's behaviour. Do you agree?
OrtosYes I agree, it's true too.
But when I see a girl going in and out the room 4/5 times an hour, I just decide not to go with her; of course it's subjective but it's my way of doing. I was already several times in FKKs, and statistically I have more GFE session with the girls based on making my choices in observing what's happening.
Totally agree....I also look out for a 50 note being exchanged and see if she smiles and gives him kisses on both cheeks...it's a good sign she's content.
Just my personal opinion.
I do the same and I think pure gold is also their body languages after the session too, especially how he looks like, happy and tired or too fresh and sad...
Been told off by a few forum legends for the bad formatting of my report - here's the revised version.
Gentlemen and any Ladies reading this post, I have not posted here for quite some time...but here's my executive summary of the mighty Hessen 3 clubs (FKK Oase; FKK World & FKK Palace) I have visited over the past 2-3 months. Disclaimer: These are my honest personal opinion on an average of 5-6 visits per club during the winter October & November months.
My reports are based on the following factors:
1) I have visited these clubs many times on a Thursday, Friday & Saturday (cannot comment on other days)
2) I tend to arrive around 4-5 pm and stay still the end.
3) I budget around 300 to 500 Euros per visit (including entrance fees)
4) I tend to squeeze in minimum 4 + sessions per visit
5) I have no preference to race - if she's: Curvy; Friendly & Smiles alot - it's a done deal
The 1st award for the most convenient club to travel from Frankfurt City by taxi & pubic transport goes to:
1) Palace (cheap as chips to arrive by taxi & public transport)
2) Oase (cost me on average 40 to 55 Euros from City)
3) World (Cost me over 140 from city or took train to Geissen 13 Euros and taxi 20 Euros to World)
The 2nd award for Best Customer Care & Client Satisfaction
1) World (On One occasion a girl got thrown out because she was rude and nasty to a client - The guy went up to the front desk and complained and the girl was summoned to the reception for her version of events....a few minutes later she was told to pack her bags and go home. Shame as she probably just started and never got her 65 Euros refund)
2) Palace
3) oase
The 3rd award for Best Looking German Lineup
1) Palace (Lina; Melissa; Mandy)
2) Oase (Can't remember their names - but one blonde and one brunette with beautiful tattoes around their bodies)
3) World
The 4th Award for Best and Most Romanian Lineup (Many Italians may find this info helpful)
1) Oase (Anna; Melissa (Anna Nicole Smith lookalike); Alicia or Alessa - only 19 and started in November, so she's very tight, but very good)
2) Palace (Marelia - sometimes short blonde hair or long blonde extension, if you ask her where she's from she would intially say France. Loves to pole dance)
3) World
The 5th Award for Overall best lineup (My personal opinion)
1) Oase
2) Palace (very close second)
3) World
The 6th Award for Youngest Lineups ( Ages bewtween 18-21 )
1) Oase (by a mile - They probably get all the overflows from Palace as their minimum age policy is 21)
2) World
3) Palace
The 7th Award for Best Massuer & Massage Facilities
1) Palace (The Thai Lady & Tatjana are great, The wooden flooring and tantric surrounding
reminds me of entering the 5* Bangkok Thani Dusit Hotel)
2) World (Killer calf massage - but it was good)
3) Oase (only one bed and always busy)
The 8th Award for Best Sauna; Shower; Pool; Jacuzzi & Steam Facilities
1) World - by a mile
2) Palace
3) Oase
The 9th Award for Best Showers and Changing facilities
1) World
2) Palace (showers can be cold at times)
3) Oase
The 10th Award for Overall Best Club Facilities (Winter times)
1) World
2) Palace
3) Oase
The 11th Award for Hygiene and Club Cleaniness (many discussions on the forum already)
1) World
2) Palace
3) Oase
The 12th Award for Best Rooms
1) Palace (I prefer mirrors in my rooms - and I always see cleaners busy preparing rooms for next guest)
2) World (Close shave)
3) Oase - alot to catch up on.
The 13th Award for Overall Best Outdoor Facilities (did not sample as my visits were in Oct & Nov)
1) Oase (Did not sample, but the new pool looks great)
2) World
3) Palace - None
The 14th Award for Best Girl Service
1) Oase (I have asked most girls to give me 5-10 mins trial runs in the Kino and always agree, and service gets better in the rooms)
2) World
3) Palace (They tend to rush a little more than the Oase girls, but service just as good
The 15th Award for Highest numbers of Girls to Guys ratio
1) World - always more girls than gents
2) Oase - Certain nights there can be a 2-1 ratio of girls to guys
3) Palace - Weekends can be bad, full of tourists and van load of lads and girls are no where to be seen
The 16th Award for the Most Blondes
1) Oase
2) Palace
3) World
The 17th Award for the Best Food
1) Palace (new restaurant and seperate eating facilities)
2) World
3) Oase
The 18th Award for the Best Drinks
1) Oase (proper Coke Cola & Coffee) - Saturday Cocktail nights are only 5 Euros
2) Palace -
3) World - Although they offer Free beers, but most drinks in cheap plastic cups and they serve flat Pepsi (yuk)
The 19th Award for the Best Music and Party atmosphere:
1) World - Decent Dance tracks.
2) Oase
3) Palace
The 20th Award for my personal favourite club
1) Oase (Purely for the great Service offered by the best lineup)
2) Palace (nice selection of Blondes)
3) World
The 21st And Final Award for the Best FFK Contributors to make my trips enjoyable and this summary possible goes to the following legends:
1) BasketCase; DevilSpinkick; Henio; Smuler; Dedalus; Angus Magee; Captain Dan; Toscana; Ortos; Lukasek; Regnad; Hessen Bub; Vito Corleone and many more I have left off...
Feel free to add to this award list....
Ciao for now...
Basketcase
12-02-09, 00:20
So when you do a double for half an hour it's 50 each and not 100 each? If that is the case I got taken by Gina and Cindy.
Dark Bond and Hessen Bub,
I always thought it was €50 for each girl for the half a hour (€100) and then if there is lesbian show then that is another €50 to each girl (€100) so the half hour session becomes €200 with €100 to each girl.
Basketcase
12-02-09, 08:00
This can be problematic: Did it ever occur to you that maybe it is the Man who quickly finishes within 15 mins and abruptly packs up and leaves the room, and not the Girl? Some men do this, you know. Not every male guest is as sophisticated as me and you, wanting to use the full 30 min session time. Some guys blow their wad and high-tail it out of there...Thus your criterion is not always a certain indicator of the girl's behaviour. Do you agree?
Hi Ortos,
Yes, I agree. BUT, I find from my experiences that it is usually the girl that is wanting to leave the room before I want to.
The general routine is once you come and you are just panting and needing a breather before you get up that the woman is already cleaning up getting ready to leave, all this well within the 30 minute time frame.
Also speaking to the newbies as well you get the same theme that once you come it is out you go is the treatment applied.
Dark Bond and Hessen Bub,
I always thought it was €50 for each girl for the half a hour (€100) and then if there is lesbian show then that is another €50 to each girl (€100) so the half hour session becomes €200 with €100 to each girl.Note to self the lesbi show is not worth it.
Vito Corleone
12-02-09, 08:45
Gentlemen and any Ladies reading this post, I have not posted here for quite some time...but here's my executive summary of the mighty Hessen 3 clubs (FKK Oase; FKK World & FKK Palace) I have visited over the past 2-3 months. Disclaimer: These are my honest personal opinion on an average of 5-6 visits per club during the winter October & November months.
The 3rd award for Best Looking German Lineup
1) Palace (Lina; Melissa; Mandy)
2) Oase (Can't remember their names - but one blonde and one brunette with beautiful tattoes around their bodies)
3) World
Mr. Simex,
It was great meeting & hanging with your crew @ Palace & Oase. That 1 guy, what a character!
The 2 German babes were Nina blonde & Lana with the tats.
I look forward to hooking up again.
Vito Corleone
12-02-09, 09:06
It seems like this is a typical YMMV situation. For those who had good sessions with Alice, I don't doubt that. If I was in the mood of CIM, Anal, or other services she wanted to add, I would have been fine. I tend to be put off by upsellers. Others may not be so affected?
There are still some girls who offer nice GFE at Palace (Bea from Thailand, just to name one). So I am sure I will continue to visit Palace. But I doubt that I will have another session with Alice, although she is probably one of the most beautiful girls at Palace now.
I also sessioned with Alice a couple of weeks ago & thought she was pretty hot with a tight toned bod. Did not upsale much other than offering cim & started off as a above average session. Nothing spectacular, but solid session. Stopped around the 20 min mark & offered anal & cim. When I declined, she did not want to continue. I told her I wanted cim & she gave a much better bj. I told her no hands acted like it was the best bj ever & about to cum soon. kept this act going for the next 8 minutes while checking the time. I stopped her @ 28 minutes, got up & put my robe on & told her time was up. The look on her face, priceless.
Face is attractive in her own way, but what a really tight toned bod. Arches her back for a great doggie position. YMMV.
Daniella from Romania was back & she made up for the crappy attitude/service from the other girls. Even Denisa was in super pms mode.
Overall lineup was good with some new babes, but the girls attitude has really gone down. Nothing really special in the lineup to make me go out of my way to visit. Not many stunners to make the swim with sharks worth it. I was surprised how dead the club was. Not many clients for the women made them even more bitchy than normal. Sharky atmosphere. Great club to visit if you can bust one within 15-20 min. YMMV.
New food area was great but, th th th th th th th th th th that's all folks!
Vito Corleone
12-02-09, 09:19
This can be problematic: Did it ever occur to you that maybe it is the Man who quickly finishes within 15 mins and abruptly packs up and leaves the room, and not the Girl? Some men do this, you know. Not every male guest is as sophisticated as me and you, wanting to use the full 30 min session time. Some guys blow their wad and high-tail it out of there...Thus your criterion is not always a certain indicator of the girl's behaviour. Do you agree?
Ortos
I also agree. I noticed Lena from CZ finishing off guys 10-15 minutes, but clients with huge smiles on their faces. They all told me her bj was fantastic. Even EL recommended her & told me she gave a great bj. He also pointed her out for me as I did not know what she looked like. I boycotted the place before her sabbatical. EL has his moments until he finds something to hate about you.
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