FKK Palace - Frankfurt [Archive] - Page 2

Ortos

02-05-05, 13:29

I've just come back from an extended tour (read sex-fest) at the three major Frankfurt FKK clubs. I found Palace the past two weeks to be outstanding and far out-shined the girl selection at other area clubs. There were girls from many countries, with a strong representation from Russia and Russian-speaking countries, plus some Czech, Bulgarian and of course the ever-present Romanian contingents.

I also found some extermely interesting experinces by dipping my beak, so to speak, in the South American click that hung out in the kino, dark cinema room with couches where lots of foreplay takes place. I found that you could just lie in there and girls would come up and give you free handjobs just to get you interested in them. One free-lance Brazilian babe, Jasmina, a 7,5 to 8, slowly massaged and bbbj'd me whilst I was spread-eagled on a couch in the cinema for more than 20 minutes before I led her to an adjacent room for a 50E/30-min romp in a mirrored room. Great value. I also saw another dark-skinned Spanish speaking girl, about a 7.5 in appearance, who virtually camped out on one of the couches in the kino and would "do" most of her clients right there on the couch. I was lying on a couch just above hers, and whilst she would bbbj her clients, she kept looking at me in the eyes and smiling. Then, between sessions she would try to waive me down to her couch so she could "play" with me.

Another girl I had several sessions with was Anastasia from Latvia, a 24-25yo brunette with great skin and shoulder length hair that she wore pinned up a lot. She often wears nothing but a gold-plated chain around her waist. Not the drop-dead stunner that would rate 9, but she did have that “stir you in the loins” look. With that look and the attitude that I was later to discover, I rated her a more attractive session partner than some of the younger physical 9s, who lacked the GFE-leaning attitude and experience. Anastasia was a little shy, but if you showed interest she would look deep into your eyes and engage in deep-tongue kissing. She could hardly speak anything but Russian, but her erotic look and attitude just said: I will want to make you cum! I took her into the kino room on my first encounter and she sat on me and kissed me and then played with me slowly for a long time. I then took her to the room. She insisted to stick her tongue deep in my ass whilst she slowly jerked me off with oil at he same time. I ended up having 4-back to back 1hour sessions (4x100E) with her over two days! She is amazing. She’s there for two more months, I believe.

And then there is Alyssia, a mid-twenties leggy girl from Hamburg, Germany. Here is a girl who most would immediately rate minumum 8.5, based solely on physical attributes, but when you add her attitude, or at least the attitude that I experienced, you have notch the rating up a bit into the 9 – 9+.
First a physical description: About 5’8” or 5’9”, shoulder-length (natural) blonde hair, often worn pulled back in a ponytail. Slim, fit, athletic body with just a trace of flab around the hips and buttocks (perfect!). Very attractive face, superb attitude, though quiet and does not really excel at conversation. If you hit it off, however, you can find other, non-verbal ways to communicate. Alyssia is a true beauty and a bit of an anomaly in that she often works the cinema, but is not like the other “kino rats” in that she is truly very good looking. I actually had several opportunities to engage this beauty during the course of several visits to Palace, but only took advantage on my last visit. Why? I don’t know. I think initially I just did not trust her because A) she was German and I have had so many dud sessions with German girls (although there are also several exceptions to this); B) she was just too damn good looking and I thought she would coast through the sessions on her looks vs. her performance. So much for racial profiling, as when I did eventually go with her, the performance out-stripped her looks! One of the best sessions I had all week, actually. The first thing that grabbed my attention was her DFK, which was staggeringly good. I was surprised to receive this right off the bat, just sitting with her in the kino, because she was German. Then I discovered her fantastic bbbj skills and the rest fell into place. I can’t wait to re-session with her and again I kick myself for not trying her earlier. At least now I know.

I had other top sessions with:
--Natalie of Belarus, a porno-star appearance girl who, beneath the heavy eye-make up, is a real sweetheart and can deliver a so-called PSE.

--Linda from Czech Rep, a large girl with utterly amazing tits and a very sexy look. You have to like this type of look and size to get into it, but if she does “stir” you physically, a session can be most erotic and satisfying as it was for me on two occasions. I liked this girl a lot, but she was constantly in demand and can get tired out towards the end of the night.

--A late twenties, bleached-blonde German girl, Louisa, who, although did not DFK, did provide a very fun and spirited, extended bbbj with lots of variations, including one move where she would take cold water into her mouth and then suck you before she swallowed the water. The day I saw her again, but I had won a small Piccolo bottle by spinning a wheel at the entrance, so I gave it to her and she used it during a long bbbj-session. Great stuff.

All together I found Palace to be in top-notch mode during late January, which coincided with two large Messe events. There were many 8s and 9s, and several rather young German girls came down from Koln and Dortmund areas, esp. for the weekend and middle-week Messe times. It really reminded me of the vibe at the old Atlantis in its heyday. I really liked the vibe inside the Palace kino too, which, as I outlined above was an erotic place to hang out either between sessions or whilst you are getting ready to engage.
I also discovered at Palace that there are some very nice girls who work there during the afternoon/early evening shift, but who leave by 20.00.
Spending several hours in the club over the course of a few consecutive days I met and spoke with a number of girls from different ethnic backgrounds and looks-categories. I was able to notice a few girls I would definitely avoid; very good looking, but a very rush-you-to-the-room attitude and probably would offer a lacklustre performance. One such was a girl who was very good looking (forgot the name, as I only spoke with her once or twice but observed her several times) German girl who said she was half-German/half-Chad. She had very nice natural tits, beautiful skin, but when we first spoke, hardly had she said her name and origin, she immediately began this hard-sell pitch to go to a room together with her friend, etc. I walk away immediately, because I never saw her engage in any kind of lovey-dovey couch action or foreplay of any kind. Bad vibrations.

I observed a click of Russian girls, about a dozen or so, who were all 6s, 7s, perhaps with an 7.5 or two, all of whom were ex-Oase girls. Included were girls like Julia (Russia), Nelly (Kazakh) and Inge (Lithuania). Some of them work the kino a lot, others hang at the backside (whirlpool end) of the upper bar. Some of them, though they are not the best lookers, do indeed provide really top-notch service.

Bottom Line: I went to Frankfurt to visit all three clubs: Oase, World and Palace. I had rented a car so mobility was not an issue. During the first few days I spent more time at Oase than World. But once I got into the vibe at Palace and started to work my way through the 40+ girl line up every night during the Messe times, I ended up at Palace almost exclusively. That is where my erotic instincts led me night after night.

Carnal1

02-05-05, 15:54

Ortos,

Outstanding observations from Palace. Unfortunately the last time I vistited that club it was rather lame. Probably due to the good weather back in the fall. I really like the venue, good food, nice locker room, sauna, spa, etc.

I can visualize everything you wrote about (except the girsl faces). Sounds like you found your winter playground. Will you spend that much time their in the summer months ?

I recall one of my sessions at Oase when I spent some time with that Latina
vixen,, I think you were sitting their with me as I wandered over to her. I have a thing for Latin women.

Enjoyed the post,

Regards,

Carnal1 aka Lanrac :-)

Carnal1

02-05-05, 15:54

Ortos

02-05-05, 21:19

Carnal,

The Oase girl was from Bolivia, yes? I remember your leanings toward Latinas, and I'm starting to see that there is indeed life beyond the Russian-speakers, but they are still my staple. When are you next in Germany? Feb/March are great months at these FKKs...

Jocko D

02-08-05, 18:56

Spent about 4 hours at Palace last Tuesday. Arrived shortly after they opened, so was one of the first guests. Was worried at first, but within 45 minutes there were about 10 girls, and a good selection. Had my first session with a Thai girl "Kay" who was fairly new to the club. Nice session starting on the couch, and after about 20 minutes of DFK and BBBJ action we headed for the room for an increasingly intense session. Once done she said it was the longest she'd spent in the room (must have been about 40 minutes). Good value, and great session, Recommended.

After another hour or so, went to the kino with a girl from Ukraine (name escapes me). Good conversation, and then a trip to the kino. This was a shorter session as we got right into some serious hard fucking in multiple positions.

Overall was pleased with Palace (1st visit after renovation). Same location as Parades, but absolutely a new club. No problem with English either.

Long Time Boy

02-15-05, 13:29

Palace is easy to get to by public transport. Take the S8 train Industriehof stop.

Get off at the Industriehof cross the tracks and then a road that runs right next to and parallel to the train tracks. There's a 7 foot high, brick wall. Follow the wall by turning right (the wall on your left side) walk about 50 metres less than 1 minute and come to gap. Turn left through gap, walk straight ahead till you see a sign that says "Konigsbergerstr. 23 (Hinterhaus)" and has an arrow pointing left. Go around the building to the front door in other street. All up from downtown Frankfurt it takes aobut 10 minutes and costs a couple Euro.

Once there have fun. I did. Actually my four hour stay started brilliantly with a small Romania dark hard raver (7.5 to look at but a 10 feel for nastiness). BBBJ, DFK GFE 4play the works ... great. Small break. Pretty good round two another break, sauna, food, drink and then got a bum wrap from a kino-girl from Russia, tall nice tits but too professional, no spirit, no fun really.

I waited for the 'erotic show': what crap. The night however, was a blast overall. Millions of naked women walk, sitting, talking. IMHO there is nothing quite like sitting there watching the world go by as one after another naked women pass you, smile, show you their slits and, if you want will blow you. Can't really beat that!

It's worth a detour. For sure

Ortos

02-16-05, 18:19

LongTimeBoy,

Thanks for your post. I think you have some erroneous information though, there at the start, no? I mean, I can assure you the S-bahn goes nowhere near Hausen, but the U-bahn does. There are two stops close to Palace on the U6. That I know. But no S8! So maybe we should clarify this before some poor soul ends up in Bad Soden, or wherever the S8 really does go...

Any chance you could supply a name or two to go with your comments about the girls you saw? For example, what was the name of the Romanian girl you saw? And the bad Russian working the Kino? Just so we can look out for these girls, good and bad, next time we go to Palace? Also which night of the week did you go there?

Thanks again for your contribution.

Henio

02-22-05, 00:10

Day three of my recent trip. Arrived to Palace around 16:30. Relaxed for a while and then met Czech girl called Natalie (if I remember correctly). Blond rather short curly hair with reddish color at the end. Spent some time with her on one of the couches. The session was a very good one with no hurries. She likes to alternate sweat with a little rough play, biting your skin and stuff like that, but it was nothing extreme although I was a bit worried that she would leave some marks on my body.
I think I went over the 30 minutes (I don't wear a watch so I'm not sure), but there was no hint from her that 50e was not enough. I would rank this girl similar to blond perky Julia at World.

Second session was with a black girl from DR. I think her name was Jennifer or Julia. Soft C tits and just a tad overweight. At this time I was not much into working through the session and had her tamper me, giving me massage and stuff like that. When we started the sex, I was kind of just laying there having her ride me and after a while she begged to be touched which I did. Nice session, would repeat.

Around 19:00/20:00 there was an arrival of several stunners (thanks Novize for the tip), and the selection at 20:00 was something like 40-50 girls

Third session was with "don't remember name" from Ukraine. Has dark hair with blonde highlights, nice b/c breasts with large nipples. Hangs out with a dark haired girl. The session was nothing to write home about and we had a bit of a communication problem. I was also in a bit of hurry at this time as I was going out for dinner and the time was 21:30 so I would not judge the girl based on this performance, but I would probably not repeat.

A colleague went with a 1/2 spanish 1/2 someting else girl. One of the grimmer looking girls in the club, but something about her made my collegue go for it. She used every trick in the book to get him over the 30 minutes mark (starting the sex as late as possible in the room, demanding a stay afterwards, smoking a cigarette etc.) and finally charged him 100e for the session as they had stayed over 30 minutes. As my colleague did not wear a watch, he could not argue, but was a bit pissed off although he admitted the session was ok.

Later he went with another of my colleagues together with 2 thai girls. Don't remember their names, but they are very fit although aged 30 and 33. The session was ok, but they both complained about redicoulus loud moans from the taller one which had them laughing their asses off during the session. It was a PSE session.

Now a funny thing: The one doing the taller one (the same one that felt a bit ripped of by the overstaying previously) was not aware that cum on body was extra (He is not a rookie and knows that CIM is extra, but he just did not realize COB was extra). She starts encouraging him to come over her body, and he did, shooting over her tits and some drops reached her face. When they layed down she told him it was 50e extra. My friend beeing sure this was a total rip-off looked angrily at both the girls and said "you are fucking kidding me". The girl said "no, you came on my body and that is extra". He said "you must be joking" angrily and staired at the other girl. She gave the taller one the "back off" look and the tall one then said "yes I'm only joking".
When paying, the taller one begged for 10e extra as she would now have to wash her face and hair and it should only be fair that he paid a little bit. He did.
Afterwards I told him that Cum on body was extra and he should know that, but the girl should also tell him before. He felt kind of bad having been a bit harsh on the girl.

Arrived back at the club around 02:00 (with a return ticket). Had a session with the before mentioned Thai girl (the taller one) as I was curious about the moans (and my friend had also given her good marks despite the COB episode). The sounds from her are unbelivable, her fake moans cracked me up and I had to stop the session to regain my composure. When I was coming, she started again and I finished of in a laughing frenzy, not the most enjoyable way to climax, but an experience none the less.

My fifth and last session was at 3:30 with a lithuanian. Don't remember her name, but it might be Anna. Did her in the Kino as all the rooms were occupied. She is a bit chubby and her breasts are a bit misshapen, perhaps from a bad implant job. She also seemed to have rather bad teeth, but I was going for a last release of the night so I really did not care at this time. The session was nothing to write home about.

The staff at Palace is very nice, especially the woman greeting the visitors. When I left for dinner, I was a bit ahead of my colleagues and had to wait. I chatted with the front door staff and they were very sweat, offering me to wait at the bar if I wanted and even offering me to go and grab some food from the buffet while I was waiting. The buffet at Palace is also the best one of the three big FRA clubs, but I still like Oase a bit more than Palace, but Palace comes close second.

Chivaz

Fats

02-23-05, 22:39

Visited the Palace twice over the weekend and Cindy (Poland) was there one day and Marina (Lithuania) the other. Laura from the Dominican Republic has moved from Oase as well as Yulia (Russian) and several others. The overall selection both days was very good though business seemed to be slow.

I would also like to add my two cents to some of the previous reports. In my experience, COB is not extra. Very rarely, a girl will try to charge extra if she thinks the customer doesn't know the ropes but just say you want to talk about it at the counter and most likely she'll drop it right then and there. That Chivaz's friend had "some drops reach her face" might have made the difference in the girl's point of view but in general if COB and CIM were the same price, who would do COB?

As Ortos has already pointed out, Long Time Boy's directions to the Palace are a bit off. In addition, the Hinterhaus sign has been gone for well over a year. So according to his post, he took a train which goes nowhere near the Palace to get to the Palace, saw a sign which isn't there and then had several anonymous women, some good and some bad. If you were really at the Palace, I would also like to thank you for your contribution, but your post leaves me scratching my head.

Henio

02-23-05, 23:14

I never do COB myself, but was somehow under the impression that it was 50 extra. Dunno why, but think I have read it couple of times on the boards. Perhaps my memory is failing me.

Chivaz

Long Time Boy

02-28-05, 06:15

You are absolutely right. Don't know how I made the mistake. The right train is U6 or U7. The stop is DEFINATELY Industrie Hof, so catch whatever gets you there.

Would have posted earlier but couldn't get on.

Will post more details of my good time later.

LongTimeBoy,

Thanks for your post. I think you have some erroneous information though, there at the start, no? I mean, I can assure you the S-bahn goes nowhere near Hausen, but the U-bahn does. There are two stops close to Palace on the U6. That I know. But no S8! So maybe we should clarify this before some poor soul ends up in Bad Soden, or wherever the S8 really does go...

Any chance you could supply a name or two to go with your comments about the girls you saw? For example, what was the name of the Romanian girl you saw? And the bad Russian working the Kino? Just so we can look out for these girls, good and bad, next time we go to Palace? Also which night of the week did you go there?

Thanks again for your contribution.

Long Time Boy

03-01-05, 07:17

Otros,

More info. Sadly I cannot remember the name of the hot Romanian who was my first 'port of call' at Palace. It was Saturday early evening and there were two dark haired Romanian girls who hung around the bar at the top of the stairs opposite the motor bike. One was tall, maybe 5'8" the other shorter about 5"4". The shorter one, the one I went with looked about cute but possible had a (too much) bigger ass. BTW, that ass looked fantastic bouncing away in reverse CG and doggy. Indeed, it shows you how looks can be deceiving, not much on parade, but really, really special in action.

The taller one had big titts and was somewhat more forward. When not with someone, they spent the whole night together. If they are there again, you could not miss them.

I was pretty jet-lagged and so cannot remembe their names.

Ripple66

03-01-05, 14:02

FKK Palace,

My first FKK visit! I’ve been lurking on the FKK pages for ages and thought that no P4P can be that good!– and if it is then it has the potential to be a very dangerous addiction. But after nine months of experiencing financial meltdown every time I thought I could afford a visit, I threw caution to the wind and let curiosity and lust get the better of me.

I arrived about midday having got up at five am to maximise my stop over time in Frankfurt. About 12 girls and 8 punters around. Very relaxed and sophisticated atmosphere.

Started with Marsha – a cute Russian (about 24 I would guess) who was lounging in the Sauna. Her sweat slicked, skinny body and small perky tits with the most amazingly large acorn size brown nipples turned me on straight away. She said cute ass as she left and I asked for a kiss. It was teasing but tasted good. We flirted a bit and she joined me on a couch soon after. Fifteen minutes of checking her out on a couch and we headed to a room. She had great oral techniques and her hair was in two plaits, which occasionally trailed down the side of my bollocks in a most teasing way. Memorable moments include an irresistible light tongue tickling of my balls which had me squirming and one moment when she pushed my knees back to my shoulders and licked from the base of my scrotum to the tip of my cock. If she had continued like that I would have been spent in a few minutes. I can’t actually remember if I penetrated her. She finished me with a hand job while spitting saliva onto the tip of my dick – an interesting and exciting finale which had me spurting over both shoulders and my neck.

Looks 8 (but as the afternoon went on my rating went up – she had a very natural feel too her)

GFE 5 – we didn’t make contact but that might have been due to my nerves
Technique 7. Spoiled only by the “woman on the edge of an orgasm” soundtrack that she provided before we even started.

Second was Nicolette (21) – a pre raephalite elfin (but not short) goddess from Romania, with goldilocks tresses half way down her back. I’d flirted with her as soon as I had got in the club told and told her we would talk later, but I held back because she was so beautiful that I thought she would just coast through the session. But I saw her pull a guy in the Kino by deep kissing him while jerking him to an erection and seeing she put in some effort I thought I must have her. She’s tall (5’ 8” or so) with a perfect figure and poise. Every time she walked around the room to get a drink (show off her body) I couldn’t keep my eyes off her (even after the session). We kissed and it was deep and enthusiastic – we went to a room I asked her to lick me slow but every time she got quick. Twenty five minutes passed with me enjoying every moment but not getting close to an O. She warned me time was nearly up and I said fine lets just do another half hour. It didn’t matter whether I was going to come or not – it was just so nice having this perfectly formed young girl with her pussy in my face and her tongue trailing round my dick. We had a couple of rests and joked and teased each other a bit. I pojnted to the little spot of pubic hair she had left by the top of her triangle and asked why the Mohican?. She asked if I prefer women who were hairy down there, then said really hairy and indicated a beehive pubic hairstyle and we laughed and it broke the ice. Back to business and it was obvious that her flapping tongue oral technique – nice as it was - didn’t have much variety and wasn’t going to do the trick. I moved her so she was on her knees playing with herself facing the mirror with me behind her. She put her other hand behind her back and started to jack me off. My very own porn movie with one of the most beautiful women, that has ever walked the planet! I quickly came into the small of her back but she didn’t ask for any extra. I think her pride was offended that she hadn’t made me come in an hour

Looks 10 +

Technique 5 – but I think due more to inexperience than bad attitude and also the very short time lag after Marsha.

GFE 7/8 she wanted very much to please – but she was also working the club very hard. If she didn’t have a punter at her seat in ten minutes she did a tour round to the kino – and with looks like that few men would say no. She says she’s independent, sending money home to her family and her mother knows what she does. I’d like to her life is that uncomplicated but I’m not sure if I do.

Having being blown twice in two hours I decided to slow down and booked a massage to sort out my other aching muscles. Hooked up with a lovely Moroccan lass with great hair while waiting and promised her a visit after a massage – which was great and really worth the money. Got chatted up by a really fat but very jolly Turkish girl with huge tits after the massage but made my excuses looking for somewhere to recuperate after the massage. But I hadn’t even found a vacant seat when I saw her – talking with Nicolete. A tall black soul sister, with long legs, long black tresses and a silver belly piercing - name of Tica (if you can believe that) from Dom Rep. The first black girl I’d seen in Palace. Probably in her early thirties with slightly saggy tits – but her energy and body language more than compensated. I just put my hands on her ass asking where she had been all day. We established that we didn’t have a common language but our eye contact was strong enough to overcome that and for me to forget about recuperating after an intense massage. After three minutes of her pinning my arms to the wall and shimmering up and down my body she nearly frog marched me to a room to give me the porn star experience of my life.

She turned the lights up bright, pulled of the little piece of red chiffon around her waist and started pulling it between her legs. Pushed her shoulders against the wall thrust her hips out and worked her fingers from her mouth down to her pussy with her ass going lower and lower till she was limbo dancing with one finger stroking her pussy lips. She pointed to the footstool which I put under her ass and she started wanking herself in front of me with her ass hanging off the edge of the stool. I was immediately hard again. A few minutes later she’s slipped a cock ring on me, was opening her pussy lips with a vibrator and had one finger up her ass. A few more minutes and the back of her knees were over my shoulders and I had a ring side seat of her ramming a vibrator inside herself while dribbling oil over her tits and belly. We swapped hands and I took over the dildo and massaging her tits while she was wanking me off and tickling my balls. She slipped on a condom and we fucked missionary over the footstool and, though she was screaming unfeasibly loudly it felt like spontaneous theatre. She might ot have been coming but she was enjoying putting a show. We switched to doggy still using the footstool as a prop. When she felt me start to soften a little she pushed me away – back on to the bed and expertly wanked me to a climax. We hi- fived each other. A truly joyful and spontaneous session.

She had asked a bit more in the middle of the show and we had negotiated a mid price (75 Euro) but she had been worth every cent and we had easily hit 40 minutes. She said how much fun the footstool had been as if it was new discovery for her. I think I’d got lucky - been her first punter of the night and she had decided to give me her best shot.

Later another soul sister (mulatto not black) (Jenifer?) in her early twenties with a beautiful face, pouty lips but bad attitude came over and started to do a lesbo number on her (for my benefit) and tica pushed her away- saying something about me being her friend. Twice later in the evening when I was wondering if I had the strength or the inclination for a fourth round Tica saw me passing and opened her legs and stroked her pussy while staring me straight in the eye. One hot girl. I get the impression that the coloured girls at Palace don’t get a lot of trade, which is a shame because this one put in a lot more effort.

Supper time came: the place got busy, lots of beautiful girls walking round in the buff queueing like students at the refectory, but blithely naked. Such beauty and diversity in the female form- worth the entrance fee just for the body show. Does life ever get this good? I turned down more offers of sex in an hour and a half than I have turned down during the rest of my life: as I thought about ricardos’ law of diminishing returns and doubted my strength or their ability to top Tica’s mindblowing exhibition. Left reluctantly about 7 having already missed my scheduled train, hoping there was another (there was) and wondering when my next bonus was due.

Thank you for all the contributors to these pages over the years who have slowly convinced me that if I died without going an FKK club my life would have been incomplete. Visiting Place is like having a one day membership to your own personal harem. FKKs (or at least Palace) is to a red light district what a eight course banquet is to a takeaway kebab. P4P sex had always left a bad taste in my mouth (no pun intended) – apart from some semi pros in west Africa! I left feeling relaxed and happy, with a big smile on my face. Best therapy I’ve ever had. Every pretty girl I see now queuing for coffee, I can imagine with naked breasts and a piece of chiffon round her waist- and then they smile back at me! It has carried over to my professional life (the day after I was informally invited to tender for a dream contract). Truly, good things come to those who dare pursue their dreams. I just wonder how long the “Palace effect” will last. After eight months of doubting my ability to finance an FKK trip (or habit) I would recommend it to any man who has ever felt intimidated by beautiful women and wants to challenge that feeling.
Total damage for the day – including entry, three girls and a massage (plus sauna and free refreshments) 320Euro. My main regret was that there was no pool and all day I saw no girls in the Jacuzzi and only one in the sauna. As spring rolls around my thoughts will turn to somewhere with more outdoor facilities.

Ripple66

03-01-05, 14:05

Long 'Time Boy's instructions were spot on. I found with the place no trouble. But I think the line is S6 - S7. If coming from the hauptbahnhoff you have to travel two stations north west and change. If you can't see Industrie hof on the ticketmachine just buy a franfkurt dagkarte for > 5.00

Novize

03-01-05, 19:29

for the great report!

And welcome to the club of the FKK-addicted. ;)

Palace is great in winter (although the Yacuzzi is just a bubbling tarn) and, as your report proves, has a satisfying selection of women even in the dayshift.

Just some remarks about Nicolette/Nicoletta - you can´t call her inexperienced. She has already been workng at ATL before it´s first closing and is in the business for approx. 2 years now. During my last visits at Palace I watched her serving clients in row: 5 minutes hunting and approaching the next victim, 12 min. in the room, 3 min. washing earned her (at least) 150,- €/hour. She had worked in that manner at ATL already. But I never heard one of her customers complaining about that. Most clients seemed to be happy with her service. And your session shows that she can go over a longer distance. But be happy she was your second session, not your first one... ;)

Latina women often offer extraordinary good service, especially when they like a client - and they are well-known for that. They are willing to make your weirdest dreams come true ans so many guys are looking out for them. So you don´t have to be worried about their business. They may see some bad days. But over the time they earn their money.

I hope you won´t need another nine months - summer would be over then without you having enjoyed the great outsoor-facilities and -actions at a place like World or Oase.

Come back soon,

and in the meantime have fun,

Novize

Iseeu

03-04-05, 14:37

Unscheduled stopover last Thurs. in FRA due to bad weather and missed flight connections. Who am I to complain if Lufthansa decides to put me up for the night at the Sheraton Airport, with no meetings or dinners planned, and that expense account beckoning?
Called my FRA taxi driver friend, T*** and asked him what he recommended for a really cold and snowy Thursday night - Palace, he says the rest of the town is dead, no Messe, too cold, bars empty, Palace is the place for you. I offered him a free session as I always do and he expects the offer, but is too scared of his old lady.

As I walk in, Cindy, enters the VIP with another girl and a guy and spends the next 3 hours there. But Marina the goddess is free and bored. A great 1 hour session. She has one of the most perfect bodies ever created and once again, I lose concentration and just stare at her. Can't take my eyes off of that face and body.She knows it - keeps sauntering past me later with those breasts, that ass, those eyes, that total package. Just a sex bomb. E pluribus Unim, or whatever the correct Latin phrase is for G-d Almighty. Offer a 3some with her friend from Lithuania who didn't have any business all night. Not a good idea - that other girl would be ignored.

Chilled down at sauna and massage, eating and went on the hunt. Found her -Linda from Czech Republic, who I've read about on the German forums. Great eyes and large breasts. So-so session. She was a little depressed and also complained about the lack of business - as previously noted here she ususually is very busy. Not tonight.

Went to the kino to nap as I was still on U.S. time. Ran into the S. America contingent there too - successfully fended off unsolicited gropings while regenerating crucial body fluids. But then Linda from Seychelles walks in. Chunky body, not really my body type usually, but one of the nicest personalities of any FKK girls, smart personable, good English, Creole laissez faire attitude. She remembered a previous session and just asked if she could chill out with me while I rested. Great marketing idea. Fabulous fun session followed, laughing giggling, teasing. Highy recommended for fun not just the sexual type. She also said that things have been very slow.

I hadn't been to Palace in about 2 months. The selection of women was varied and interesting with many veterans, some stars ( O' Marina) but also many relatively new sp. The food as always was good. The facility is underused and I shudder to think what organisms reside in the constantly still waters of the Jacuzzi. I have to say that I find it a warmer environment, and more intimate than World, and the sp selection is simply better. IMO Oase stil reigns above the other super clubs for these very same reasons, but mostly because it just radiates far more sexual energy in the air.

Hard to describe. But what is common amongst all, is that business is hurting during these dog days of winter and I imagine there'll be some big parties when spring rolls in to try and recapture that lost aura.

T*** picks me up and asks how it was. I tell him. He says that the whole city has lost its aura. Can't explain why - economy? crime? Is it just the winter doldrums or something deeper in the German malaise?

Ortos

03-05-05, 14:47

IseeU,

Great report. I just spent last night (Friday 5th March) at Palace. Arrived around 22.00 found it hopping. Although not as many girls as I found last month during a back-to-back Messe period, I was not too dis-satisfied with the line-up at Palace. About 50 girls, just as you described: a mix of known stars and some new talent. It was interesting to see more than a few Lithuanians, including the often-travelled Valentina, who started at the old Atlantis, travelled to World for about a year, then moved to Oase and now has migrated to Palace. As I hung out right till closing last night, I could see that there was a very, very good selection of girls until about 2.00, then some started to leave. There was also long waits for rooms, as one might expect on a Friday. I saw many of the girls you mention, Cindy, Linda (Cz), Daniella (Romania), Christina (Romania), Linda (Seychelles), Marina and several other Lithuanians, but there were at least half a dozen new girls I wanted to check out but never got a chance...I'll have to go back.

Hanging in the Kino, I also ran into the S. American (mainly Venezulean) contingent. Had a great long session with a buxum playful girl Jessie, who was a girl I had observed during my last visits who often camped out in the Kino, and did alot of her clients there. I let her have her way with me for about 15-20min in Kino, before I went to a room with her for an hour. Interestingly, she tried to bend her calculation of the time a bit (rounding it upwards!), but when I corrected her forcifully, she dropped the attempt. Passionate lady, but business-oriented in the end.

I had a few chances to land Marina, but got side-tracked with an old flame, Alyssia, the blonde German sexy-9! She was so passionate to me, and we click so well, I decided to invest with her. But I will go back to Palace later in the week, perhaps Monday/Tues., when not so croweded to work my way through other elements of the girl line-up.

A couple of notes:

The food ran out shortly after 23.00 and was never re-plentished.

They re-did the lockers at Palace, so that now the full-length lockers are only half as big, meaning that they can fit twice the amount of customers in the club. Business may be slow, but they are clearly counting on bigger and better days...

With the lockers half-size and so many ex-Atl. girls there, the place more and more reminds me of the old Altenstadt club....

Bottom Line: I was very happy with the whole vibe and girl-line up at Palace. If you know how to select a patner properly, then you can have great value here.

I will look forward, in the coming days, to compare this place with the other two big clubs here.

Ortos

Toscana

03-06-05, 17:00

Yes they did. It was a mess. I turned up on Friday morning early (10.15) to squeeze in a short session, to be TURNED AWAY!! Told me to come back in an hour. So drove on up to World.

Ortos

03-07-05, 15:42

Oh, I should have noted in my comments below, about Palace last Friday night: I was pleasantly surprised to see the beautiful Russian girl, Masha, working at Palace. I last saw this girl at Oase last year and at the start of this year. But now she seems to make Palace her working venue, when she does work. Just another example of how some free-lance FKK girls can/do migrate between the clubs from time to time.

Peter

03-07-05, 23:53

If that is true it might change my life. Mascha remains my untoched number one!

Ortos

03-08-05, 15:27

Well, Peter, it is certainly true. I saw her again last night too. Spent some time with her chatting and massaging in the kino, before we sessioned in the room. She seems quite at home at Palace. Such a nice sweet person, but playful and with a strong sense of humour. As always, she wears her hair in pigtails but also occassionally lets it all down, and she is tan and wears the telltale garter strap around her upper left thigh.

Should I give her a message for you, Peter? I will see her again tonight and probably tomorrow too...Sorry to inform you, though, she is no longer "untouched."

Ortos

Beffen1

03-09-05, 01:19

Hi Ortos,

Setting up shop at Palace are you? Those half sized lockers can't be good, are they dividing the money safes too? I can hardly fit my passport in there. You can't beat the U4 -to U6 connection from the old Monopol- if you dilly dally in the lockers at closing time you can be at the Ubahn stop down the block by 4:20 for the first train. Who is this Mascha? Hair, body, actress/model comparisons man. Ripple 66 describes Marsha-

Started with Marsha – a cute Russian (about 24 I would guess) who was lounging in the Sauna. Her sweat slicked, skinny body and small perky tits with the most amazingly large acorn size brown nipples turned me on straight away. She had great oral techniques and her hair was in two plaits, which occasionally trailed down the side of my bollocks in a most teasing way.

Is this her?

Iseeu,

I agree totally about Linda from Seychelles. This girl LIKES her sex. A sweetie with a lilting voice and a great deep throat BJ and fun to smooch with on the couch too. And Marina, the Lithuanian goddess of the 30 minute languorous BBBJ and the bejeweled cookie- Ortos- what are you waiting for.

Beffen

Ortos

03-09-05, 14:25

i aint waitin fo nothin! i have set up my camp at palace, but maintain a branch office at oase these days as well. both clubs have produced a slew of young, slim petite [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)-types, right up your alley, beffen!

this masha is definitely the one described in the passage you quote. she is one of the best looking, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in the business. too bad you have yet to find her. she was at palace fri and monday nights, but not last night. my guess is she lives up in nwr area, and commutes down to frankfurt area clubs for odd extended weekend work. she is ever popular. this past few days at palace i have observed her work in the kino and on the couches by the swinging bench. she occassionally teams up with another russian girl, eleni, (who claims to be greek, but most certainly is not!) for threesomes.

over the past few days i did sample masha and linda seychelles. great sessions. but i have had other even more passionate encounters with alyssa (de), linda (cz) and esp. with a super sexy fresh-off-the-boat cuban girl, another linda. this last girl kisses me so deeply and blows me so long and gentle, she makes me feel like i am her long-lost love! that is what some of these latinas can do... but all of these linda girls really rock my world at the moment...

ortos

Ripple66

03-09-05, 14:31

Nice to be so extensively quoted in beffen's last post. seems like my first FKK pnt was one of the more valued service providers.

But curiosity prevails, whats the symolism of the white garters? I noticed a few and my Costa Rican tica was wearing one. Surely it doesn't mean virgin?

Langsuan Man

03-09-05, 17:51

Since most of the posters indicate that they like The Palace when it is busy a friend had a hell of a time getting a hotel room in Frankfurt for next week. So I looked up what was going on at the Messe and found the following:

International Trade Fair
Building and Energy Technology

The Bathroom Experience

Air-conditioning and Ventilation

from 15 to 19 March 2005

Can't tell if it is three different trade fairs or one combined but appears to be just the type of attendees that would go to The Palace.

Respectfully reported,

LSM

Harry Dude

03-10-05, 03:49

Stopped by the Palace on Saturday March 5th, first time. Nice place, smaller than both World and Oase but the interior decor is nice. However I did not come there to study the decor.

I fell for Marcela from Brazil (I actually like tan lines and fake breasts). We went to a room, and she started sucking me in a furious way. After a short while, on with the condom, and she rode me cowgirl style like a maniac. Obviously she wanted me to come as soon as possible. It was almost violent, and certainly no tender GFE.

Anyway, after a while I wanted to change over to doggy style, and when I pulled out of her - get this: Stuck to my condom was the tip of an old condom. She was very surpirsed (and so was I...) and she said: "Uh oh - thats not good". Anyway, I should have left then and there I guess, but wanted to finish first.

Whitey2

03-10-05, 07:37

Langsuan Man posted dates for the next Frankfurt Messe as March 15-19. Be advised that it can be a real ***** to get any kind of a hotel room in Frankfurt during Messe that doesn't cost you an arm and a leg. It's comparable in the U.S. to trying to book a room in New Orleans during Mardi Gras.

However, if you have wheels and don't mind a little driving, the sticker shock for a room can be lessened (maybe). Below are two hotels I recommend that are forty to forty-five minutes or so (depending on traffic) from Palace, if you're determined to visit Palace in Frankfurt. They're also about a half hour or less from World. They're both off of the A45 northeast of Frankfurt.

Tryp Hotel in Langenselbold. Gelnhauser Strasse 5 63505 Langenselbold.
Nice basic business hotel - nothing fancy for rooms. I stayed there once during a Messe and got the published rate of 45 euro/night, even though the attendant told me they sometimes jack up the rates for Messe if things get tight enough in Frankfurt.

Hotel Zum Goldenen Boden in Altenstadt. Phillip-Reis Strasse 5. 63674 Altenstadt. This is a little more difficult to find, but if you go to any old post about how to get to Atlantis, you're basically there. Last time I stayed there, in November 2004, I could see the sadly defunct Atlantis - still lit up and a bit less than a block away - right through my sliding glass door. The good news: its published rate is 28 euro for a small room, 35 euro for a big one on the top floor (recommended). Breakfast included. Although Atlantis has sunk beneath the waves, the last I heard Xtreff was alive and well in Altenstadt, and it's about a 2-minute drive from the hotel.

You can look up either hotel on Hotel.de for availability. If I could go to Germany during the middle of March I surely would (can't, though) and would straightaway head for World to meet up with Shiatsu and Cordelia again. If you get a chance to meet them, do so. They are extraordinary people. All the best to you this round at World and Beverly, S & C!

Dedalus

03-10-05, 12:59

Fridays at Palace have their positives and negatives. IMHO the Friday lineup is the best of the Frankfurt clubs. Admittedly since many of my favorites are there at this time I am biased. The negative; most FKKers also think this and therefore the place is usually pretty full. Nothing compared to Oase on a busy night, but considering Palace’s size, it can seem pretty crowded. Especially when one is waiting for a room.

I arrived at 8PM to a pretty full house. At the entrance I saw Cindy who was just starting. I was hoping that I could get changed quickly enough to scoop her up, for she is a dandy, but I think the shock of the new lockers slowed me down a bit. I saw her in the main club area but some horny dude beat me to the punch. I was even more disappointed when I saw that she would be waiting for a room for probably 15 minutes.

One observation: It was blonde night at Palace. There were quite a few blondes who were definite “911s”. ST’s Alyssa, Marina, Cindy, Danella, Diana, and a handful of killerettes that I did not recognize but are defiantly on the “to do” list. One who reminds me somewhat of Anita from Starlight ladies who was constantly booked while I was there. Another, a fine-bodied blonde wearing black leggings on her ankles. I found out later that her name is Janni. More later…

Around 8:45 I saw ELANA wearing knee-high white “Fick-mich” boots and a cute smile. The girl has beautiful eyes and a very sexy body. According to her she is Greek but I would bet that she is really Russian. For those of you who remember the Russian VICA who use to work at Atlantis, well she is very similar. She caught me about to head into the kino and sort of nudged me to one of the mats close to the screen. The girl has great BBJ technique and loves to stare at you while she is working. WOW! We decided to move our act to one of the rooms and luckily enough we found one free. Her service is more than above average and defiantly worth a repeat performance. BBJ, Multi-positions etc.
Apres le splender l'amore I had a bit of hunger. The Palace has switched caterers and the results are less than positive but a man’s got to have some nourishment. During dinner I struck up a conversation with one of the girls who told me that there are plans to build expand Palace with a second floor. That would be a good move since the size of this place on a crowded night is a big negative.

Shortly after finishing my disappointing meal I saw MARINA walk in. Enough has been written about this delightful Lithuanian that there is not much that I can add. Suffice it to say that, as it often is with her, it was the best session of the evening and for that matter the weekend.

After Marina I really was planning to head back to the Monopol and rest up for my outing with Fred and ST the next day. However that sexy blond with the black leggings kept invading my thoughts. Especially as I was having a coffee at the bar close to the entrance and she sat near me. Soon we struck up a conversation and I found out a bit about her. Her name is JANNI and she is very charming. Her body type is similar to Marina’s. She speaks some English but clearly felt more comfortable with German. I wisked her off to a room and after a 10 minute wait with much groping we finally got down to business. Gents, this lady is a find. The girl knows sex and knows how to use that body of hers. Great BBJ, 69, good mix of GFE and wild porn sex. Very high repeat factor!

name: Janni
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,75 m
figure: slender, B/C-breast
origin: dutch/german
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercings: A rose behind her right shoulder
service: Super. great bbbj, Kisses but without tongue
other: Usually hangs out at the small bar close to the entrance
location: Palace usually works the 2nd calendar week of each month with a few exceptions.

After my Janni session I figured that it would be wise to rest up for the next day of debauchery with Fred and ST. I figured that I could save interfacing with Cindy for another day. Perhaps Friday the 18th.

Cheers all,

Dedalus

Fats

03-11-05, 01:46

Last weekend I was able to make several trips to the Palace and in addition to the usual suspects, I tried out three new (to me) girls:

Sonya from Berlin. She has jet black hair beyond her shoulders and wears black knee high boots. If you look at her from the neck down she is an absolute goddess, her face just doesn't match up. In the room she was also disapointing, no kissing, enough BBBJ just to get me hard enough to put on a gummi and then a short CBJ. We tried a few positions put she was just going through the motions and soon started a violent HJ hoping to end things as soon as possible. I stopped her as the HJ was becoming extremly painful and there was no way I was going to have a happy ending from this experience. That was the first ten minutes. We actually spent the next twenty minutes in the room talking and she was very pleasant to be with but she seems to be in the wrong job or we just didn't click.

Linda from Czech Republic. Tall, with shoulder length auburn hair, always smiling, could loose a few pounds, huge breasts. DFK, BBBJ, GFE...Friendly, sweet girl, hope to see her again.

Nadia from Morocco. She was wearing a medalion of the Albanian crest, looked Eastern European but said she was from Morocco. Who knows? She is very short and has brown hair with blonde highlights. She was also alot of fun. Extended DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions, she seems to really enjoy her job. She would sometimes dance with the pole when the "formal" dancers were on break.

One caveat, the tallest Thai girl is a ladyboy, if that is your thing have fun, if not, you have been warned.

Valmont

03-11-05, 12:23

I'll be at Palace this afternoon and tonight. I'll be the guy who, if you watch AMerican TV, looks a lot like Chandler from the television show Friends. I usually sit at the big bar and smoke Marlboro Lights. I plan to get there around 1500 or 1600. If anyone else is there tonight, stop by and say hello.

V

Wever

03-11-05, 13:09

Last week I visited the FKK club in Nürnberg, the Sylt club.

As I did not had a car, a taxi took me, around 22.30, there which cost me 15 Euro to and the same back to the city centre. As I left around 04.00 I think that was rather reasonable.

When I came into the club, I paid my 60 Euro entrance, and saw that there were at least 20 girls around. all the girls are naked which I personally find a pity. Walking around does not leave any imagination how the girl looks. Besides a nice sexy outfit is more attractive in my opinion. But who am I, the owner of the club wants it like that I found out.

The club has a house room with some corners to sit, a sauna and a cinema. In all places there is enough sitting space for 2 or 3 and it happens that you get a warm-up in the open.

When sitting and watching a movie a good looking slim German girl with her long hear in a ponytail, asked me if I wanted to get some action. She sat next to me and in fact was rather cool. I made the mistake to get up and go to a room with here. She was rather cool, no hugging, kissing or DATY. A covered blowjob which she did quite good as I came too quickly.

Then I discovered some 4 girls from Turkey and as I do speak Turkish we had a long talk. Finally the young long black hear tall girl put here head on my lap and started playing with my young man. We decided to go to the room where she started to kiss and cares my nipples. She allowed me to lick here shaven pussy. In short, I had a fine 30 minutes with here. And although she faked the groaning, she turned me on.

Then I had to rest a while but was not left alone by Ebru, another Turkish girl that followed me already all night. Finally she got my willy stiff again and we decided to start with a BBBJ. She started already when we were sitting down and we were spied on. This does give me a kick but Ebru wanted to go upstairs, so we did.
There she gave me a warm kiss at the mouth and I felt here nipples going hard. She was wet and my finger went in easily. She did a great BBBJ where I had to stop here a few times. After that we did some different positions and when I finally finished she put here arms around me and kissed me passionately.

That was the end of a nice evening that was not really cheap but I would go there again.
Prices:
60 € entrance
50 € per 30 minutes, all covered
100 € per 30 minutes with BBBJ

Henio

03-11-05, 21:04

Hi Fats,

quote: "One caveat, the tallest Thai girl is a ladyboy, if that is your thing have fun, if not, you have been warned"

Couple of my collegues went with "her" and her friend for a 4some session. Afterwards we had a pretty detailed discussion about this as I mentioned that she looked like a post-op trans, but my collegues did not agree. It was the voice that prompted me to think she is post-op. We did look for some other proof of this but could not find any (belive me we did some thorough checking) so I was not as sure, but still had this feeling.

They kind of convinced me that she was a she so I went with her. I had this kind of strange feeling throughout the session that she was actually not she (still her voice that gave me this feeling). Well if she is a post-op, its a first (and I hope last ;-) for me.

What makes you sure about this?

Chivaz

Ortos

03-12-05, 04:27

I wonder what would happen if, after going into a room with a ladyboy at Palace, you discover half-way through the session that you are being scammed. You march yourself and her/him to the front reception desk and tell the management that you are not going to pay for the session because you have been misled into thinking your were having a session with a girl. Basically you were the victim of fraud. Would the managment support you?
Damn straight they would!

Wanking

03-12-05, 15:47

Hi Guys,

Ill be making my first visit to the Palace on Monday 28th of this month, infact its my first visit to a German FKK club. I have been to the FKK in Prague, although I know from this board that it doesnt compare to the best German clubs.

Plan : Flight lands at 10 am , should make it to my hotel - IBIS Frankfurt west by 11 - 12 pm. (nearest hotel to the club - 1 km ) http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1589/fiche_hotel.shtml
I will probably have a sleep for a few hours and then walk down to the club around 5 pm and stay there till the early hours.

On Tuesday I plan to visit the club from around 11 am till 4 pm , then Ill have to head to the airport for my flight home.

So If any members plan to be there on those days at those times, please let me know ??

Cheers

Fred

Dedalus

03-12-05, 16:03

In the evenings IMHO Palace has a line-up that rivals or exceeds any club in Frankfurt. During the day, like any other club, one's chances of meeting the best girls is less than in the evenings.

Good luck,

Dedalus

Death Warrior

03-13-05, 09:29

Guys,

I've been to Palace before on a Monday when there has been no trade fair and I'm planning to go tommorrow evening (Mon 14th). Has anyone any experience on how busy it is when there is a trade fair at the Messe ?

Thanks

Novize

03-14-05, 19:08

Since it´s 75 - 90 minutes less travel time from my homebase to Palace than to World (back and forth), I decided to go to Palace instead of World on my "short sundays".

Arriving at 8 p.m. I tried to get something to eat, but the first portion of food dad already been eaten by some hungry wolves. So I swat down on the smaller swing right in front of the fruit basket and ate some bananas, while watching the girl´s parade.

The club was more crowded than World on sundays, but the guy/girl-ratio was OK. Most known Top-Acts were off duty. I recognized Barbie-Diana, Dilara, Czech Linda, some interesting new faces and - Anjelica!

Of course she had newly coloured hair and so she introduced herself as Nicole from Cologne - she likes this kind of playing games. We had a drink togehter before we changed in one of the rooms.

Anjelica is known for outstanding service for years, and she really gave some credit to her fame! A great session with a great provider.

The stats:

name: Anjelica
hair: brown with blond strings, short
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, A-breast
origin: russian
born: ~ 1973
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on the right side of her back
service: full pro. range from GFE to PSE
other: charming, intelligent, good conversation
location: FKK-Palace

The session with Anjelica would have earned a more delicious dinner than stuffed cabbage with potatoes, but that was the only thing served in the evening.

After meal it was time for a light rest, so I went in the cinema for some sleep. Unfortunately the business was too low for the women to overcome the temptation of waking me up for in "invitation" every 1 minutes. Much more nicely than at World, but the result was the same...

At a certain point I gave up my resistance and let Rebecca from Germany take command of Novize jr. She handled the little guy with good expertise and so we soon changed the location and went into one of the rooms. I didn´t even try to kiss her, so I can´t really say if she would refuse DFK. BBBJ was good, DATY gladly accepted, and after some 69 we went into the "real action". We had sex in different positions and ended up doggie-style. Rebecca was not a real GFE (to me?) but delivered solid action. Thinking of the alternatives available at Palace, I wouldn´t repeat the session anyway.

The stats:

name: Rebecca
hair: brown, straight, long
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, A-breast
origin: german
born: ~ 1983
tattoos/piercings: none
service: solid average, DFK not tested.
other:
location: FKK-Palace

After showering I mede a second attemot for Extreme-relaxing again, and this time the women let me sleep for about 90 minutes. When I woke up, Sarah (former FKK-Beach) approached me for a little chat. She wanted more, but I was still too tired. She wasn´t angry and left with a kiss and a smile in her face. Prebooked for my next visit on March 28th, if she works over the Easter holidays.

I watched the movie (I don´t like this stuff, I was just too tired to stand up and walk away), and after some time a latin woman placed herself at my feet, introduce herself as Jenny from Dom. Rep. and began to carress Novize jr. I talked something about "dead" and "finished for today", but she didn´t give up and managed to get some life in Jr. again. After a nice time of kissing and cuddling in the cinama, we went to a room. She started with a passionate BBBJ, I answered with extended DATY, which she really seemed to enjoy (And the Oscar goes to...). Jenny is not the youngest woman at Palace, she has a big scar on her stomach (Caesarian?), her breasts are not perfect, but she showed great attitude and passion. I took her a tergo. looking at her nice buns and didn´t need very long to finish.

The stats:

name: Jenny/Jennifer
hair: brown with blond strings, long and curly
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: Dom. Rep.
born: ~ 1978
tattoos/piercings: non discovered
service: passionate, mostly PSE
other:
location: FKK-Palace

For knowing now, that the cinema wasn´t the safest place at Palace, I joined Anjelica again, who wanted to finish work for today, have a meal and go to the sauna afterwards. I gladly joined her for the sauna and had a nice small-talk with Anjelica, before I had to dress and drive towards my office.

Although I´m more familiar with World and it´s staff, I enjoyed the night at the Palace - with Barbie-Diana, Dilara, Sarah and some interesting new women, the club is a nice place even on sundays.

Novize

Valmont

03-15-05, 10:56

Went to Palace on Friday afternoon/night. I got there around 4:00 and the parking lot was packed. I thought that was strange, and expected to see loads and loads of guys inside. While there weren't as many as I feared, it was pretty packed. Guess I should have expected that, as this was my first weekend visit.

I planned on waiting around for my standard hour of relaxing and eying the talent, but Kristianna from Romania grabbed me. Tall, long dark hair with great natural DD breasts, she is a great looking girl. She and I have had some great sessions so after only a little bit of prodding, we went back to the room. She said she hadn't worked in two days, and hadn't had a session since she'd arrived that day, so in her words, she was "hot!" Boy was she ever. She's always on my "to do" list.

After waiting around for dinner at 6 and then relaxing again, I finally picked someone new for my second session. Victoria, from Russia, was the chosen one. She has brown hair with very blonde streaks in it. Another distinguishing thing about her was her "landing strip" of pubic hair, which stuck out with all the other shaved girls around. Once we got back to the room, she was very nice, with lots of DFK. The session was good and she genuinely seemed to enjoy herself. However, then everything went horrible. She asked if I wanted a massage, and not one to turn it down, I accepted. While giving me the massage, she was text messaging someone on her cell phone! I couldn't believe it! After such a great session, I was thinking about tipping her, but she blew that one.

Guys, I recommend Kristianna, who is busy a lot of the time anyway. But avoid Victoria (or Vicky) at all costs.

Hessen Bub

03-17-05, 14:22

... but Kristianna from Romania grabbed me. Tall, long dark hair with great natural DD breasts, she is a great looking girl.

Chriss oder Christina is the name. Just in case somebody is looking for her. Very friendly and likeable, great performance, as I heard ... ;-)

Hessen Bub

Hessen Bub

03-17-05, 14:27

Jenny is not the youngest woman at Palace, she has a big scar on her stomach (Caesarian?), her breasts are not perfect, but she showed great attitude and passion. I took her a tergo. looking at her nice buns and didn´t need very ong to finish.

The stats:

name: Jenny/Jennifer

She is - as Kathi, Maria, Lisa, Laura - a former Atlantis-girl, her performance is outstanding, she has been in the FKK-business quite a few years by now.

Same for Anjelica, but for both this is a compliment, not a turn-off.

Hessen Bub

Death Warrior

03-18-05, 20:39

Booked a last minute flight and hotel on Friday 11th March for a business meeting in Frankfurt, normal hotels that I use were fully booked due to a trade fair and hence ended up in the Steingenberger Airport Hotel at €259 per night. Hotel is close to airport, a shuttle bus takes you there from just outside terminal one. Took a taxi at 7pm at a cost of €25. I was concerned that Palace would be extremely busy due to the fair, however this was certainly not the case.

Chilled for about an hour, watching the girls and the talent pass by. Linda from Czech Rep approached, some idle chit chat and she then started stroking me. She has an enormous pair of tits, but did not rock my boat. Sat down near the swinging sofa and Carolina kept looking over smiling, beckoned her over. She is from Poland and spoke very basic english. We made out for a little while and then went to a room. First thing she asked was 1 hour ? to which I responded "no, 30 minutes". Very good service from her, plenty of DFK and BBBJ with lots of eye contact. For the main event it started and finished with doggy, again with plenty of eye contact during the fucking. I really enjoyed her service and certaqinly recommend her.

After the shower, relaxed a while and waited for the buffet at 10pm. I've only been to Palace once before and last time had eaten before, so did not sample the buffet. However this time, I was hungry as missed lunch and joined the grwing queue for the buffet. About 15 girls were already lined up and waiting and when the food arrived, they piled it on their plates. Its amazing how much they put away !

Watched the dancers, who are absolutely gorgeous. One blonde and I think one is a brazillian...must be judging by her arse, which is a perfect bubble butt. Had a few approaches, a couple of Thai girls, German Sylvana (sp ?), Russian Sarah, but not to my fancy. Sarah and another girl were doing good business, there were doing threesomes and I saw them taking a lucky guys to the rooms several times.

Gabriella from Austria sat by me and she speaks excellent English. Again, made out a little just to get to know her. She even said she provides an excellent service and will give me a very good blow job and "suck my eggs". Off to the room and she does indeed provide an excellent service, plently of eye contact during the BBBJ with lots of ball sucking and DKF. This time it was cowgirl all the way and she certainly puts her back into it. We then chatted, where I learnt that all the girls have to also pay the €65 entrance fee, but whatever they make from the customers is all theirs to keep. So another good session for me and a good recommendation for Gabriella.

Back out there next month, maybe will try a mid week visit to see if its much different from a monday night.

Alex P Keaton

03-18-05, 22:21

I am a dummy when it comes to directions. So, here is my detailed version of directions for dummies on public transportation from Hauptbahnhof (the main train station downtown) to Palace.

Take the U4 line bound for Bockenheimer Warte. Ride through one stop--Festhalle/Messe--and get off at the Bockenheimer Warte stop.

If you accidentally go in the wrong direction on the U4, don't despair. You can ride through two stops--Willy-Brandt-Platz and Dom/Romer--and get off at the Konstablerwache stop. It's just out of the way.

Either way, follow the signs to transfer to either the U6 or U7 line. (They follow the same route for as far as you need to go.) Take either the U6 line bound for Praunheim/Heerstrasse or the U7 line bound for Hausen. Ride through these stops--Leipziger Strasse and Kirchplatz--and get off at the Industriehof/Neue Borse stop.

Walk to the front of the train, descend the platform, turn left, and cross the tracks at the crosswalk. Continue in the crosswalk to cross the street. You will be facing a brown stone wall with graffiti on it. Turn right, keeping the wall on your left, and walk a short distance until there's a gap in the wall. Turn left, walk through the gap, and keep walking for a block. Cross one more street and, after a short distance, you will see a Palace sign on the building on your left. Walk around the back side of that building, through the parking lot, and you will see the entrance on your left. Walk up, and the desk attendant will buzz you in the through the gate.

Pay your 65E and have fun. Reverse the directions to get back.

Alex P Keaton

03-19-05, 21:11

Here are quick summaries of the five girls I had sessions with.

Vanessa was tall and tan, with long brown hair, from Poland, wearing shoes that laced up around her legs. Her body was excellent, her face a bit less so. She was much too eager to end the BBBJ and begin the CFS, but I went along with it rather than complain, and it was okay. She was the most enthusiastic kisser of the bunch. Her English was limited.

Jessi was a bleach-blonde from Romania who has quite the prominent natural rack for such a small girl. Her face reminds me of Nicole Richie--the nose and eyes particularly--but others may not see the resemblance. During dull times, she likes to dance on the pole or sprawl in lewd positions on the couch. She didn't rush the BBBJ, but my complaint about it is that she repeatedly wiped the pre-cum off of the head of my penis so it didn't get in her mouth. She made moaning noises that I took to be fake throughout the session, except when I did DATY, which silenced her. Her English was limited.

Laura was also from Romania and had shortish auburn hair and a thin body. Her short haircut makes her look older than her 22 years. She cautioned me during the BBBJ that she doesn't allow CIM, even for the 50E extra, but that was fine with me. She was my third session of the day, and I appreciated her patience when it took me awhile to finish. I enjoyed my conversation with her the most; her English was quite good.

Natalie was my most GFE-ish experience. She is a small Czech girl with curly hair that begins blonde and is red at the ends. I appreciated her sense of humor and playfulness. She gave the best BJ of the bunch, even though I could occasionally feel her top teeth. After the BBBJ, she seemed to get into my DATY and was quite lubed up for the CFS. She started the session as a closed-mouth kisser and ended it as an open-mouthed kisser. Her English was above-average, and she'd describe or pantomime the words she didn't know.

Monica is petite, tan, from Poland, has shoulder-length brown hair with blonde streaks, and favors wearing a red mesh shawl/scarf over her shoulders. Like her countrywoman Vanessa, she was too eager to end the BBBJ and begin the CFS. At one point, I asked her to take her shoes off, and she declined. I don't know whether this is a quirk of hers or reflected our language barrier. Her English was limited.

Hessen Bub

03-20-05, 10:42

Vanessa was tall and tan, with long brown hair, from Poland, wearing shoes that laced up around her legs.

Just slow her down, then sessions with her can be very joyfull. Excellent blow-job and CIM.

Jessi was a bleach-blonde from Romania who has quite the prominent natural rack for such a small girl.

Very rushy session, not to be booked again. Should take up her work in the "Bahnhofsviertel" in Frankfurt.

Natalie was my most GFE-ish experience. She is a small Czech girl with curly hair that begins blonde and is red at the ends.

See pictures. Great girl, great BJ, great humor.

http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_pic.php?url=/pics/3/pic6l.jpg

Monica is petite, tan, from Poland, has shoulder-length brown hair with blonde streaks, and favors wearing a red mesh shawl/scarf over her shoulders.

Was she carrying a "Mrs. Timberlake" bag? If yes I know her, was more of an average session.

Hessen Bub

Alex P Keaton

03-20-05, 19:33

Was she carrying a "Mrs. Timberlake" bag? If yes I know her, was more of an average session.Yep, that's the Monica I was with.

Big Beans

03-22-05, 07:53

My last stop in a round the world business trip will be in Frankurt on March 25. I was wondering if the Palace will be open due to the fact it will be Good Friday.

I would like to meet with fellows members if any are planning some time at the Palace on the March 25.

Pulse

03-22-05, 08:41

Well my first visit to Palace, and a FKK club, was a truely enjoyable experience - even after 30 hours of flying to get there! Directions in this forum were great and the tips and experiences very useful.

Enjoyed some time with Mika from Germany - she found me in the Kino and wanted to play. Immediately she struck me as being quite beautiful and, despite seeing later that her face may have been a little messed up with acne, I'm happy with that memory - she was tall, slender and well proportioned. She let me have some fun with her perfect breasts (which she genuinely seemed to enjoy) and DFK before we moved to a room for some 69 and DATY. A couple of positions later at it was time for a cigarette (for her) - and no rush to leave which seemed a pretty good attitude.

Later came Kat (Kathe?) from the Dominican Republic. A slow night for her despite being a very attractive girl - chocolate coloured skin, dark hair in ringlets, small overall but very nice. Spoke a little English - knew all the "business" phrases off pat but anything else was on shaky ground. Great DFK before moving to a room - seemed to genuinely enjoy having her nipples sucked before a long session of DATY until she came ... no doubt about that ... sweet, lingering taste. Had a great cowboy technique.

Both girls may not be PSE, but they were great company and lovely to be with - definitely GFE. Overall, I thought the standard of girls at Palace was pretty good except for one who seemed a little old to be there. Something for everyone.

Novize

03-22-05, 18:12

BB,

Palace will be open on Good Friday (as every other club), but you should be aware that at least some girls will be on vacation. You should find some nice girls at Palace anyway...

Have fun,

Novize

Hessen Bub

03-22-05, 19:41

Enjoyed some time with Mika from Germany - she found me in the Kino and wanted to play.

The name is Maike. See picture.

http://www.the-palace.de/girl_pic.php?id=250

Later came Kat (Kathe?) from the Dominican Republic.

The name is Kathi/Kati, Ex-ATL-Girl. A blue chip, always very good performance, one of my favourites.

Hessen Bub

Big Beans

03-22-05, 22:16

Thanks Novize,

It's been over a year since I have been to an FKK. I used to spend my time at Oase but want to try Palace due to its location. I am really looking forward to some decompressing time after a long trip as well as prepare myself for "sex prison" in the great white north.

I am not am very good at putting words to paper but if any of you want some info on South America, SE Asia or Russia I will be glad to help out.

BB

Optimist

03-23-05, 13:29

I am in the Giessen area this weeken and may visit World (where Cordelia is),Oase, and Palace.
I was wondering what the women to men ratio tends to be at Palace? and how many girls are there (I realise it changes from day to day but some idea would be good). Are the girls there busier than at FKKW and Oase?
Thanks. Shiatsu

Ortos

03-23-05, 16:08

Shiatsu,

These are difficult questions to answer accurately and definitively. One wonders whether any answer would be really useful, since, as you yourself well know, things can change suddenly from day to day, week to week, club to club. And of course, external forces, like Messe events in Frankfurt, can greatly influence the number of girls and men visiting the club during a given week. So one must factor in a number of variables. Is there a Messe event in town during the day(s) you want to visit Palace?

At Palace, much depends on which day of the week you visit and also on which time of day you are in the club. I can tell you this from observations about Palace I made during consecutive visits in January and early March '05:

-- I consistently found the girl selection (in terms of number of 8s and 9s and the depth/ethnic diversity of the girl line-up) at Palace superior to World each time I visited. (I rated Oase as a close second). Although there are some Romanians working at Palace, for somebody coming from World, it is nice to find that Romanians are not the dominant ethnic group represented.

-- I found that the best conditions at the club for M/F ratio occurred on days other than Sat! That's right, I would actually suggest to avoid Saturdays at Palace. There are lots of girls there, but way too many men. (Same with Oase, unless you go late afternoon/early evening and leave by 21.00!). At Palace I like Tues (they have a prize wheel), Weds, Thurs and Fridays.

-- Best time to be there for best and most numerous girl selection: 19.00-23.30.

Lastly, you ask if the girls at Palace are busier than at World or Oase. Well, some are, yes, certainly busier. Others are not...

Others may add their views. Some may agree with me, others may not...

Ortos

Dedalus

03-23-05, 17:22

Hello All,

I promise to post a report of my weekend activities soon. Until then I just wanted to let those concerned know that Laura from Kazakhstan (form. Atl) was at the Palace on Monday. She was a blonde but has now dyed her hair red. She is also a bit thinner around the waist. This woman is looking fine, boys!!!
She told me that she will be going back and forth between Palace and ColA in Augsburg.

I had a super session with her. She has not lost a step. Her new name is Vivian.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Beffen1

03-23-05, 23:06

hi shiatsu,

i don't have the depth of experience at palace that st ortos does, having been there only four times, but i would pretty much second orto's ideas about best time to go to palace. i have never found palace particularly rich in what i would consider a 9, (think [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s like anka or magda, preferably with c cups like olga or little romanian andrea, or sammi at phg) but i have never failed to have at least one memorable positive experience on each visit to palace. out of say an avergage crowd of 50 girls, i would rate maybe three to five as an 8 or above on any given night. there are many more pornoed out babes there, plain chunky ruskies, and hispanic babes here, and the latter can be some of the wildest lays, but are also more likely to have stretch marks and a c-section scar. marina is a perfect goddess sex machine, grosse diana is also drop dead gorgeous in a cold plastic sort of way. actually, palace is a good place if you want to just sit and get molested to have sex all evening by all kind of women. the kino is a trip in itself. get ready to wrestle in there. i still like the lineup and layout and hospitality at world better. i predict (and hope) that with the advent of warmer weather, palace will slow down and world will get busier.

have a great time

beffen

Henio

03-23-05, 23:28

Hi Shiatsu,

For me, I find Palace best in late afternoon/early night (perhaps 16:00 until 21:00). The worst time is after midnight when a lot of the girls have left, but due to the location of Palace, there is quite a number of new arrivals in terms of men at that time.

Last time I was at Palace (February), I left around 21:00 and at that time the place was starting to fill up by men and rooms were getting hard to find. I came back that same night around 02:00 for a nightcap and ended up with a lousy lineup and a session in the Kino when I really wanted to have a room.

I have visited Palace few times on Fridays and Saturdays and once I visited on a Sunday. Funny enough, the Sunday visit was the best in terms of the male/female ratio, not that many girls, but very few men.

I have never visited Palace at messe time, I try to avoid FRA during messe time due to hotel prices. What is your view of messe time vs. non messe time Ortos? does the additional number of girls offset the additional number of clients?

Chivaz

Wanking

03-24-05, 01:46

Im goin there next Monday, and i cant wait. I havent had sex in 5 weeks now and Ill stop Wanking on Saturday in order to maximize my load !

My married friends are soo jealous, infact one of them hasnt had sex in 2 years ! Think about that for a minute. Hes too turned off by his wife.

Chivas, I assume messe is meal time ? and what is FRA?

F

Wanking

03-24-05, 01:50

Chivas,

I am a total idiot, but i have figured it out thanks.

messe = holiday or easter

FRA = Frankfurt airport

Big Beans

03-24-05, 03:12

I arrived in Frankfurt from Turkey @21:30 and was going to wait until Friday before I indulged myself. Got to my Hotel and and thought WTF, no point in sitting in another hotel room, I'll go check out the Palace and if nothing is to my satisfaction I lose the entrance fee, but at least will get to observe some eye Candy for a couple of hours. I can think of worse ways to spend time and money.

Arrive at the Palace @ 23:00, not too crowded and is a fair number of girls. Sat down, had a drink and was propostioned by a number of girls right away. Gave them the old song and dance about wanting to look around for awhile but still get a fews hands grabbing at Willie just to make sure I was serious.

I finally made eye contact with a really attractive latino girl. She comes over and it turns out she is Brazilian. I have spent alot of time in the Thermas in Rio and have a thing for Brazilian girls. We talked for a few minutes and I thought if I don't grab this girl right now somebody else might, so off to the room we go.

In the room we start with lots of fondling and LFK. Next thing I know its BBBJ that turnes into a 69. From there it was mutiple postions to completion. Lied there and cuddled for a while until she decided it was time for round two. She said she hadn't come yet and of course being the gentleman that I am I thought it only fair for me to try to rectify the problem. After along day in planes I didn't think I had it in me but boy did she prove me wrong. Bottom line; we both got what we wanted.

Her name is Marcela and lives in Munch but works at the Palace sometimes. She is heading back to Munich in the morning for a couple of weeks and then will be back.

Spent a hour with her, 100€, was worth every penny, a combination GFE PSE
(round 1 GFE, found two PSE)

Looks: 9
Attitude: 8
Service 8

BB

Henio

03-24-05, 04:03

Hi Fred,

Sorry about my "bad" language habits, but messe is German for conference (which Frankfurt has quite a lot of) and I use FRA as a short for Frankfurt, not just the airport.

Chivaz

Akibono

03-24-05, 05:23

Fred,

Think of Messe as a convention.

Optimist

03-24-05, 10:06

Thanks for all the comments. I plan to have a look this weekend (after Oase and FKKW)
My question was prompted by Cordelia telling me that there had been on Tuesday a huge import of new girls at FKKW - she said there must have been around 80 girls!! (she lost count) (guess where all the new girls had been imported from....) About 5 girls for every man. So I'll try Palace for variation, Off to catch my flight now so I'll be offline for a few days (can't fit in 3 FKKs and internet cafes every day!)

Ortos

03-24-05, 22:18

the question came up below about how palace compares during messe and non-messe times.

first, i'm glad we've all straightened out what messe is: trade fair. so messe events attract alot of male guests to the town of frankfurt, just like the cliche conventions do in a place like las vegas. that means in messe zeit the gilr line-ups at the clubs swell with sudden arrivals of "free-lance" providers who might come down from koln, d-dorf, dortmund, berlin, etc.

think like one of the out of town girls, say from berlin: if you needed to make cash quick, as much as possible as fast as possible, by working in an fkk club, wouldn't you select messe weeks instead of non-messe weeks to make the trip down to frankfurt?

so during messe events lots of girls are available in addition to the normal day-to-day girl line-ups that rotate during the week. i enjoyed spectacular selection possibilities at palace just this past late jan, when there were a series of large messe events back-to-back. the palace kino was a truly great place to hang out. there were a number of very young, very good looking, german girls from northern sources who showed up during those messe days. they were very hot looking, but i can't speak for the performance/attitude of all these girls. doubtless had beffen visited during one of these winter messe events, he would have found many more 9s more "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)-types" than he has previously encountered at palace. i have a vivid impression of palace during the last messes: it so very much reminded me of the vibe at the old atlantis. that raw, in-your-face parade of erotic women. it was great!

but messe times can be a mixed blessing. sometimes the room waiting is more of a problem than otherwise. the trick here is to go late afternoon or by 19.00 and get well settled in before the wave of messe men arrive. also hotel rooms in/round frankfurt are impossibly expensive. but if you want sheer numbers of 8s and 9s, then messe is the time.

well that is my experience, others may see it differently...

ortos

Dedalus

03-25-05, 16:01

Part One: Public Sex in the Palace on Friday

Messe time in Frankfurt is a mixed blessing for FKK goers. Usually the line-ups are pretty strong and if you dig gawking at horny conventioneers copulating with shapely- adorables in the Kino and other areas of a Sauna club, then you will be in for a treat. The big downside is that you really have to be aggressive to snag the top acts and you can develop grey hair while waiting for a room.

Last Friday was a major traffic jam at the Palace. I think that I have never seen so many Italians outside of Sicily. (I would eventually see even more the next night at Oase.) Apparently the entire male population of Italy was in town for the Bad und Heizung Messe, and these Romeos were ready for Amore MOLTISSIMO. No inhibitions with these guys!

Arrived at the Palace gates at around 6:45. (BTW, there is a new Bakery and Steh Café on the same block for those who arrive early enough and care to fortify themselves with some good German breadstuffs.) It was easy to see that this was going to be a busy night. Just maneuvering to the locker area was a task. I had high hopes for a good evening though, since in less than a minute I spotted , Janni, Marcella, Cindy, Dilara and Daniella. Good tidings! No sign of Marina. It was early for her but the rumors about her having relocated to Sylt in Nürnberg for the moment seem to be true, so I really did not expect to run into her that evening. No matter, for there were plenty of dandies to keep me busy.

After scanning the place for 45 minutes or so I met up with ELENA. So many girls are named Elena that it can be a bit confusing.

name: Elena
hair: Brown, shoulder length, usually tied up
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slender, C/D-breasts (enhanced)
origin: Spanish
born: ~ 1982 ?
tattoos/piercing: None
service: bbbj, DFK GFE
location: Palace, says that she work at Oase for a few years

I had seen her earlier and thought that she possessed a certain amount of physical talent. We talked for a while and then headed off to try and find a room. We got lucky and did not have to wait so long. She is a good experience. She is perfect for those who like tiny girls with large boobs. Not a wild Spanish temperament type but more sweet and tender. Not a bad change of pace. Definitely worth a repeat visit.

The food buffet from several weeks ago had me a little leery of what they were offering so I gave to food a pass. By now (8:15-8:30) this place was really pushing its maximum capacity. The wait-time for rooms was anywhere from 30-45 minutes and many were headed to the movies in hopes of avoided the Zimmerschlange. Cindy disappeared with some gent shortly after I arrived and was still occupied. When I asked her later how her evening was going she told me that she already had a few more guys who were waiting to book her for 2-3 hours sessions each. I saw Janni disappear with a guy and then she was gone for the night. As soon as Daniella went to the lockers with some gent to get her money, some guy would scoop her up right afterward. Her friend Christina was also doing a brisk trade working the Kino. I did see Katharina (Blond, Russian) with a bit of time on her hand. I wonder if her “extras” reputation is catching up with her. Clearly, this would be a night in which patience would be needed. It would also be a night to choose carefully. On busy nights like this many girls, even the good ones, can tend to adopt a “churn um and burn um” attitude.

It was a great night to hang out in the Kino and check out the “Sex in der Offenung Szene”. There is a girl who gave a super performance with some dude. I have seen this girl often and she is a former Atlantis girl. I was told her name a while ago but have since forgotten it. She is 1,68 M tall, thin, great legs, B size breasts, dyed red hair, a bit older and an ok if not spectacular face. She seems to have a fun and likable personality. I have always turned her away but she never fails to give me a smile when I see her. (Novize, do you know the name of this one?) Anyway, her performance was spectacular! CHRISTINA, who I have always thought was ok but not spectacular, also was really getting into being watched. She was sitting on some guy’s face at one point and making noises that were quite arousing. I made a decision then and there to sample that little Romanian again, this time in full view of the other Kino people.

I am not a public sex guy. It has never really been my thing, yet I have been know to use the Kinos at Oase and Palace as a place to satisfy my carnal desires. The Oase Kino give the illusion of being somewhat more private. Not so in the Palace Kino. As Christina and I set up shop on the top mat, there were at least 4 other couples and one trio humping away like bunnies. Almost an orgy atmosphere. On top of that there were another 6 or so men and women relaxing and watching. Christina is a moaner which was pretty cool. As we were 69ing she made intermittent cries and squeals. At one point she started riding my tongue and shrieking so loudly that many began to notice us and make comment. We drew a number of Italians voyeurs and armchair quarterbacks, making commentary and shouting encouragement. After finishing with a flourishing doggie, both of us received compliments from several bystanders. Christina was pleased. She was assured of being busy for the rest of the night. While I might think twice about booking her for a room session, public sex with her is a big treat!

I figured that this would be enough for one evening and that saving energy for the next evening would be wise. However as I was heading for the locker room I got a good look at MARCELLA. Suddenly it seemed like a good idea to find a place to relax and bide my time until she would be free again. I have heard many good things about this Brazilian beauty and have often wanted to sample this little bit of Sao Palo, but it has never seemed to work out. She is pretty popular and I was worried that grabbing her on this night would be particularly difficult. But I was determined. That hinder of her’s is an amazing site! About 2 hours later I caught her on her way to the bar and asked her if she would like to go someplace more private and talk for awhile. She was willing and after about a 20 minute wait, and a lot o’ heavy petting we finally made our way to a room. Marcella is a very different temperament than Elena. She is a crazy combination of wild PSE and, at times tender GFE. Her BBBJ is fabulous and her I had some of the best doggie-style with her that I can remember. This is one that I highly recommend!

name: Marcella
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slender, C/D-breast What an ass!!!!
origin: Brazilian
born: ~ 1983?
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: Super. great bbbj, DFK,
location: Palace

All in all a good night, despite the long room-waits and that hogging of Cindy, Daniella, and Janni. I sometimes wonder if on nights like last Friday if the management should forbid sessions longer than one hour. If anything it would make room turnover move a bit faster. Just a thought…

Cheers,

Dedalus

Akibono

03-25-05, 17:35

The biggest downside of a Messe is finding a room or a reasonably priced room.

You can generally avoid the crowds at Palace if you arrive before the peak times. (before 6:00). It is generally busiest between 7-10. At peak time it will be hard to find a room although Palace has a remarkable number of rooms for a club its size.

In general, I find that the selection is greater but this is not necessarily so. If there is only one or two popular girl, you can rule her out as she will be taken for the night and service will be less than usual because she knows she is in demand and if you arrive late she will be tired.

It is not the male to female ratio that counts but the quality of the lineup. I find that more girls are willing to stay if there are customers. So, when business is slow the best performers will leave early because they will have made their personal quota and there is no reason to stay around. Also at slow times girls will arrive late leaving the club very empty.

IMO it is best to come on days beside friday and saturday of Messe. If you come during a messe, come early.

Henio

03-25-05, 17:57

Hi Dedalus,

Very good description of messe time activity. I have not been at Palace at messe time, and based on this I think I will continue to plan my trips on non-messe time as I hate the room shortage thing and the hectic "must grab girl before someone else does" atmosphere.

quote: "She is 1,68 M tall, thin, great legs, B size breasts, dyed red hair, a bit older and an ok if not spectacular face. She seems to have a fun and likable personality. I have always turned her away but she never fails to give me a smile when I see her"

The description fits Angelique (the face part might be debateable though), but I think you would know her so maybe not.

If it is her, then I also turned her away couple of times, but at the time did not know who she was, but after I had a session with her last summer, I always look for her at Palace, but unfortunately our paths have not crossed since then.

Chivaz

Hessen Bub

03-25-05, 19:43

She is a crazy combination of wild PSE and, at times tender GFE. Her BBBJ is fabulous and her I had some of the best doggie-style with her that I can remember. This is one that I highly recommend!

She is great when stoned, and a turn-off when sober. So better don't do her before 22.00.

Hessen Bub

Dedalus

03-25-05, 20:36

Chivaz,

It is not Angelique. I want to say that this girl is German or has at least lived in Germany for a long time, for her german is great and to me sounds Akzent frei.
She is pretty talkative, always smiling, and is often hanging out on the curved bench below the Harley. The hair could be brown (it is always hard to tell in the dimly lit Palace) but I think that it is dark red.

Bub,

I did indeed get the impression that that Marcella was either a bit high on booze or fortified by some mind-altering chemical, or both. In any case, I had a good time;-)

Cheers,

Dedalus

Henio

03-25-05, 23:12

Hi Ded,

Here is a wild guess:

There is this girl that used to work at Atlantis and now works at Palace. She claims (at least when at Atlantis) to be from Palermo, Sicily. She has a rather long brownish/red hair, the height fits. The face description is debateble although we can of course have different taste. She has a tattoo of rose (or was it devil...don't remember) on her right but cheek. I remember her speaking good German (at least much better than mine).

Had a session with her at Atlantis spring 2003. Session was ok until I came doing doggy and she got startled. Turns out the condom had broken and neither of us noticed until she felt the cum. She offers Anal. Sure was glad at the time I declined that offer. I have spoken to her a few times since then and always have a good time talking to her, but never went again. Tell her that she and I equals bad luck :-)

Friend had a session with her at Atlantis and gave her good marks for being fun in the room.

There is a picture of her on the "Girls" session on Palace web site under the name "Biene".

Sorry for cluttering up the board with something that might not be beneficial to anyone.

Chivaz

Dedalus

03-25-05, 23:31

Chivaz,

Volltreffer!!!! Thats her. Good call!

Thanks,

Dedalus

Hessen Bub

03-26-05, 10:39

Biene is her name, I guess. Have a look at the picture. She looks better than you might think when seeing the pictures.

http://www.the-palace.de/pics/girls/227/l.jpg
http://www.the-palace.de/pics/girls/228/l.jpg

Hessen Bub

Ortos

03-26-05, 13:04

I know this girl too! Not from sessions, but first from Atlantis, where she would often solicit me for sessioning with her (I always passed) and at Atlantis, where she just smiles at me now, and does not pursue the chase. I could have sworn her name at Atlantis was "Gina." She claimed to be from Italy, I believe Sicily, but she speaks German like a native and probably has the native German mind-set as well.

I saw her working Palace almost every day I visited three weeks ago. I think she is now a lot thinner than she appears in the photos posted just below, but I swear that is the girl. The red-dyed hair is fairly new. She used to have dark brown hair at Atlantis.

Musta Pekka

03-27-05, 21:41

Went to Palace on a Monday - which is supposed to be a very slow day. Not very slow in my opinion, as there were about 10-15 women vs. 20-25 men.

Most of the ladies were very good looking. I picked Linda, 25 years old, from the Seychelles (most likely Brazil - but who cares?). Rating her looks to be 7 (face 8, body 6)

A very GFE experience - not rushed at all - good sex with CIM as finishing. Paid 100€ - worth every € !

This was my first time to Palace - I was not disappointed - I will certainly come back ASAP !

Dedalus

03-27-05, 22:54

I have always thought that FKK Mondays were a pretty good deal. Although the line ups are often a little depleted, there are fewer customers than usual and in the big Frankfurt clubs there are often enough top-acts present to make a visit very worthwhile. Usually the atmosphere is a little more relaxed than on a weekend or even a late week visit. I am also fond of Thursdays since the line ups are even better.

As fate would have it, I had a choice of spending the evening at a sauna club last Monday night before taking an early flight, or crashing at a Hotel. Now, I ask you: How many hotels can offer what the Palace offers for 65 Euros? Yes, one has to “check out” pretty early, but that would have been the case for me anyway. The choice was pretty clear to me.

Arrived at the Palace 9:30. It looked like a typical Monday. There were indeed a number of guests, however nothing compared to the previous weekend’s wild Messe chaos. A number of fine ladies were present: Both Dianas, Dilara, Shasha, Jessy, Angelique, etc. Not an All-Pro line up but still a pretty good team. Both Dianas are looking pretty good! I was very close to booking the smaller of the two. I know that her reputation is not great, but I have had a few good sessions with her in the past and she is also looking really fine; much better now than back then. At the very least it could be a good “Optikfick”. Sasha from the Ukraine is also one who looks very intriguing. I wanted to book her on Friday, but she was “stehts besetzt”. I thought that this might be a good night to try out this Ukrainian nightingale. As I was lounged out on the smaller swing sofa, both Sasha and her blonde friend walked by and caught my eye. Instead of Sasha coming over her friend ELENA (another one) came over and introduced herself. Even though I was initially interested in her friend, something about Elena was very captivating. She is a cute blonde who reminds me a little of Renee Zellweger. She is also from the Ukraine and sports a lotus tattoo around her navel. I thought that she would be a good start to the evening.
In the room she gave a solid performance. Good BBBj and committing 69 with that fine body of hers was a major turn on. We explored three different positions; cowgirl, doggie and missionary which with her long sexy legs was a real delight. She did not kiss but that was ok with me.

There are better performers at Palace but Elena holds her own pretty well. I would take her up on a repeat session, maybe for a double pack session with Sasha

name: Elena
hair: Blond
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slender, b-breasts Good legs
origin: Ukraine
born: ~ 1984 ?
tattoos/piercing: Lotus Tattoo around her navel
service: bbbj, GFE
other: often wears a light blue wrap around her waist
location: Palace

Later at the bar I ran into to ANGELIQUE. It has been several months since I have had a session with her. Not sure why really, other than just not feeling the right “click” with her. Also usually when I am at the Palace, then Marina is my number one priority. Angelique has observed this and a few time in the past has berated me for only liking blondes now. Monday she started in on me again. Usually it is a playful chiding and on this night it started out so as well. I decided that renewing my relationship with this Siberian tigress might be fun. She has always been a treat to be with, even if she does like to push an hour session on me.

Before we went off to find a room we chatted a bit at the bar. I got the distinct impression that she was a little high on something. As she got closer I could smell the Sekt. This would be interesting. In the room she started talking again and being a little careless with her cigarette. I still have the light burn mark on my leg. That’s ok, for accidents can happen. We eventually got down to business and it was a typical Angelique session, despite her inebriation. We finished with about 5 min. left and she told me that we would to an hour session. She did not ask, but told me. I smiled and gently turn her down; telling her that the night was still young, and we might see each other again later. She said Ok and she went for the cigarettes and started talking again. I started to don my towel and tried to ease her to the door but she was determined to keep on talking and to finish her smoke. When she finished she got up and said ‘ich muss aufs toilette” and disappeared for and 3-4 minutes. By now we were about 40 minutes in the room and I was getting a bad feeling. She came back and before she had a chance to light up again or start talking again I asked her “Sollen wir jetzt gehen?” and we headed off to the lockers. I really was quite surprised when, before I even put the key in the lock to retrieve my wallet she announced that ‘ich kreige hundred von dir”. I gave her 50 but she was pretty insistent, and said that we were in the room for 50 minutes and that she was getting 100 euros. I have known Angelique for quite some time now and felt pretty comfortable telling her that she surely knew that this was NOT right. Then she started to negotiate. ‘Dann gibt mir noch zwanzig”. I asked her if she really wanted to do this. She did not seem to want to back down even after I told her that this was going to have consequences. Again, she did not back down. I sighed and gave her the extra 20. She looked at me and asked if the 20 was really that important to me. I told her that I was disappointed in her and that there were other girls working there who I expected this from, but not her. She tried to make it up to me by buying me a pack a smokes but for me, the damage was done. Again, she wanted to know why 20 euros meant so much to me, and again I told her that it had nothing to do with the money but with the principle. She did not seem to understand and stormed off in a huff.

This was a tough one. This is Angelique. Everybody’s wonder-girl, Miss Roemerforum and everything. The lady working the bar near the entrance saw our confrontation and asked me if everything was ok. I said it was fine and not to worry about it. I think that she knew Angelique was a bit soused. Fazit: This was my last session with the Siberian tigress. What a shame…

As I was sitting at the front bar nursing a coffee and thinking that the night was a write-off, then I got a huge surprise. From around the corner walked a familiar face: LAURA (formerly ALT) from Kazakhstan. This beauty, often referred to as “the Ivory Princess” was quite a site! I always thought that she was a stunner during her Atlantis days, but now she looks even better. She has a trimmer waist than before and she has dyed her hair red. That wonderful ass is still an eye-grabber and those perky tits are to die for. I needed a short pause after the Angelique session, but I already knew who was going to save my evening.

After crashing for and hour on the large swing, I went off in search on the Ivory Princess. Luckily I did not have to search long and I caught her coming from the locker area. She has been out of the business for about a year or so and I was not sure that she would recognize me. Happily she did and after a bit of small talk, I whisked her off to a room. Gentleman, I know that everyone has different tastes but I can’t understand why anyone would not find this girl lovely. If you like natural breasts, great legs and a fine hour-glass figure, then this lady is for you. Her service is outstanding. Great BBBJ and 69 thrown in. As she sat on my face for the 69 she would often tit-fuck me which was OH SO GEIL!!!!
We performed the act in all the standard positions finishing with doggie. She moans so sexily during sex. Friends, this was the best session that I had over the long weekend and that is saying something.

name: Laura (Now Vivian)
hair: dark Red, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slender, C -breasts Hour-glass What an ass!
origin: Kazakhstan
born: ~ 1980 ?
tattoos/piercing: none?
service: bbbj, GFE, First-Class
location: Palace, (says that she will also be working at CoLA in Augsburg)

By this time it was nearly closing time and time for me to head toward my flight. I felt great and ready for a long rest on my flight. I am sure that I had a big smile on my face while snoozing on the plane. Thanks to Laura/Vivian, what was shaping up to be a disappointing evening turned out to be a majestic one.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Iseeu

03-28-05, 02:21

Dedalus,
Just wanted to thank you for a great set of informative, well-written, and entertaining posts from your recent trip.

Tawan

03-28-05, 05:34

Most of the ladies were very good looking. I picked Linda, 25 years old, from the Seychelles (most likely Brazil - but who cares?). Musta,

I agree with you about her great attitude and service, but Linda is not Brazilian. She has a pretty french accent and speaks french (actually creole). So we can probably believe her when she says she's from the Seychelles.

Wonderful girl, if you're nice to her you can really get her going. My 2nd time with her, she spent 10 minutes patiently instructing me on how correctly to administer DATY.

RedDog

03-28-05, 11:22

i had a similar expearance. I used to session with here every time and never had a bad expearace often spent 1 hour with her. then one day i was with a different girl and we spent a few hours together. then ANGELIQUE gave me some shit about blonds i took it in good fun. then she got agressive and pissy i just told her she lost a customer for life. (it will be hard to hold out on that as her sessions where always good but there are a lot of good providers) she did not liek that and walked off n a huff. Maybe it was a bad day. it was like more than a year ago if i ever make it ot palace maybe i will give her a try again. but i doubt it as a other fav of mine is working there i think.

Ortos

03-28-05, 12:44

Dedalus,

Thanks for another sterling report. And esp. for up-dating us on your incident with Angelique. Way back in 2002 (or was it 2001?), she was my second or third experience at Atlantis. I sessioned with her twice I think, then moved on to other girls. At that time she was younger and had not yet reached the star popularity at Atlantis that she later did; so she was less full of herself, perhaps less cocky and less confident. Anyway, when she would see me, she would try to talk me into sessioning with her, but with a wry smile we both knew it wouldn't happen so it was no big deal.

Now she still recognises me at Palace, but doesn't really try to talk to me anymore, but we still say hello to each other. Recently, I've seen her at Palace on an occassional basis, something akin to Marina's appearance, say, once or twice a week sometimes, then a week or two not there, then she might be there several days on the trot. She still has steady customers some days, and I've seen her in a room with a guy for several hours and I've seen her walking away from the pay lockers cluching two or three green 100E notes in her hand as she retreated to the women's locker area.

But your description of what happened last Monday brings to my mind some general thoughts:

During the first quarter of 2005, on my occassional visits to FKKs round Frankfurt, I have noticed a distinct and disturbing trend amongst many, but not all, girls: to try to round up session time to higher figures and generally try to suck money out of you at any cost. I have documented a few of the cases that I have directly experienced, starting with Czech Andrea at World, a few cases at Palace and at Oase. What is particularly disturbing is that this trend seems to be all pervasive and even affects girls with whom I have multi-sessioned with alot over the past year or so.

So what gives? My instincts tell me something rotten is afoot. I see signs of this attitude growing. It is occurring more frequenly and more widely than it used to. And it may prey on the less-experienced punters more than those of us know what is going on. Clearly, Dedalus, you knew exactly what Angelique was doing and you, just like me, stared wide-eyed as you watched an old "girlfriend" there, as it happened a legend, just spit in your face and say: "You know, I'd rather have the extra 20E than keep you as a repeat customer." I mean, basically that is what she is saying...When you see formerly top acts like Andrea at World and Angelique at Palace...and there are others as well... sink to these levels, one must really scratch the head and think a bit.

But here's something that might be a bit revealing: At least some of these girls are willing to bargain! So the technique you used with Angelique (to give her 20 instead of 50E) is a good compromise, esp. if you, as happened to me in a recent FKK situation, have written the girl off in your head as a dead cause, and don't want to go through the hassle and spotlights of taking the matter up to the reception desk. Last month, when a girl I had previously respected started to pull this, and I decided it was better to just cut my losses with this girl rather than get into some kind of confrontation, I said to her: "Look if you want 50E, let's go talk to the manager about it; but I'll give you an extra 20E just to end the discussion here..." The offered 20-note was snatched out of my extended fingers in a heartbeat. Case closed! But a shame, another great one gets scratched off the list for the future...

One further point: If this is happening on a widespread basis, and if some of the girls do talk to each other about specific male clients, it is good to stand up to one girl, so that she might report back to other girls in her clique: "Don't bother trying it with this guy, he's too sharp, he knows what is going on..." Or the opposite: "See that guy over there? He's an easy mark! I just sucked an extra 50E from him and he didn't even bat an eye-lash!"

So be aware of what is going on and act accordingly. The above comments are not restricted to Palace or any club in particular. They apply generally.

Ortos

Wobby

03-28-05, 16:23

I would like to know if this is th same Angelique that was there a few years ago before the new building.

I think it was about 4 years ago I met an Angelique there who had loads of curly brown hair and also a bone that stuck out of the small of her back. she also said that she came from siberia (I think). Anyway the session was really cold but she looked fantastic, probably one of the most beautiful women I've seen in such a club.
Then a couple of years ago I saw her again, I thought that it was the same woman but I wasn't sure, but with her looks it was worth the risk. Then from the start she was fantastic and did everything you could wish for and more.

But I recognised again the bone sticking out and so it was clear it was the same woman. I have since then had a couple more sessions with her and it was always fantastic. I hope it isn't the same woman that everybody is now complaining about.
The other strange thing which I noticed was she also disappeared for a couple of minutes just before every session, and this week I had Cecille for the second time, she does this as well. So where do they go and what do they do?

Any ideas?

Has anybody any feedback on Victoria the red head, she seemed to be having a lot of fun with a guy in the cinema, she also looks very nice.

Novize

03-29-05, 15:03

Why bargain?

Imho the best way to deal with these situations is the following:

Don´t pay more than the common rate in the club. If a girl isn´t happy with that, offer to her in a friendly way to discuss the issue at the reception. Most probably the girl will be happy with the going rate then.

If not, make use of the receptionist´s moderation! Be friendly and calm during the discussion, but also insistent. Accept the fair judgement of the receptionist, who will most probably follow your good line of argument (if you feel treated unfair by the club-management, you should avoid the club and go somewhere else).

If you want, you can compromise now. Tell the girl friendly, that your dissent is solved now and that you both know how to handle things in the future and offer to share the losses.

Acting like this should assure that

- the club-management gets to know what happens in their club and
- they can react

before these things are published via internet. If necessary, they can organize a general briefing for all girls.

- You showed clearly that you are not easy to rip-off, but fair to the girl.

- You still have the chance to join the girl in the future – next time most probably without the need to discuss money issues afterwards.

Have fun,

Novize

Ortos

03-29-05, 15:40

Novize,

What you say is absolutely correct in a general sense: Bring the matter up to the reception; and often the girl will back down before you arrive at the management's door., esp. if she is genuinely trying to take advantage of you or rip you off.

However, I don't believe that these matters are always 100% black-and-white. I can think of a few scerarios and situations in which one might choose to just cut your losses and hand a girl a lesser amount, like 20E instead of 50E, rather than go to the managment. This is not necessarily bargaining: It is dealing with the "nuisance factor." It's like settling out of court, even though you are innocent, to avoid the nuisance.

Let's not forget that there are lots of scenarios out there and different people will tend to deal with a given situation in a different way. Some guys are shy, some don't possess the personality or lingusitic skills to march the girl up to the reception, others maybe are too stoned or just cannot be bothered or would rather pay a small amount than cause, what in their eyes is, a confrontation. In other cases, maybe some guys are not 100% certain about the exact time, but they just "feel" they are being taken advantage of. Whatever.

With you and me, maybe it's a matter of principle. But not every guest at an FKK would see it the way you and I do.

In the end, it is up to each individual to deal with these situations as he/she thinks is best. However, you advice is very correct: In most cases one should go to the reception desk, or at least threaten to do so. It depends on the situation and the individuals involved.

But the big question (for me) is whether of not there is a growing trend in the three FFM clubs to try to suck extra money out of guests. This again may go back to some sort of profiling by certain girls who would prey on men they perceive as foreigners (i.e. non-German) and/or men who they perceive as being new and inexperienced to the FKK scene. I myself feel it is not a simple coincidence that incidents of girls trying to over-charge are suddenly becoming more and more numerous. Am I the only one who has experienced this lately?

Ortos

Optimist

03-29-05, 15:43

I did my first visit to Palace and did not like it. Sorry for all those members who love Palace but I comment only on what I saw

I went on a Sunday midday after visiting Oase and before visiting World. The men to women ratio was about equal (in Oase it was 2 women to each man and in World 6 women to each man). there were 8 girls.

None of the girls seemed at all interested in approaching the men. Looks wise they were so so.

I went to a room with Anisa of german and lebanese descent. She was soso -she did not kiss and announced that she did not like men. The session was half hour and no great experience.

I saw the staff shout (and I mean really shout) horribly at a worker. And I also heard of a monger who had been cheated by a worker there. I really got the impression that the management did not treat the girls well and that the girsl did not value the customers

I was very disappointed given all the good reports of Palace. So I will never (it was that bad) go back and will stick to Oase and World (on which I will report as I get time)

Shiatsu

Dedalus

03-29-05, 15:48

Actually I agree and normally I would be a hard-ass and bring the problem to the attention of the manager. There few a few things to take into consideration in this case:

I have known Angelique for many years and, with a few small exceptions, I have always had a good relationship with her.

It was clear that she had been drinking a fair amount of Sekt and I think that this probably affected her judgment. That fact that she was drunk, or at the very least “tipsy to the max” would have been a big factor in the manager’s decision had I been inclined to take it that far. I am not sure how that would have affected her status there, but I did not want to take any chance that she would be bounced.

Guys, like I said in my post, it was difficult for me to even share this experience. Angelique is a well-known FKK star and has deservedly been praised on all of the major forums. I have noticed changes in her attitude and I think it is fair for me to warn everyone to be on the lookout for certain signals with her. I am sure that she is still a great experience for some people and if any one wants to enjoy her, then you have my best wishes.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Ortos

03-29-05, 16:53

Shiatsu,

So sorry you had bad vibes at Palace. I know you will stick with your instincts and what you say may well be true. But, in all honesty, visiting Palace --or any club for that matter-- at mid-day on a Sunday is not a proper test. Wouldn't you agree. I feel confident, despite some of the negatives you cite, that you would have a much different opinion if you were to visit on the club after 20.00 on virtually any day. I am not trying to stick up for this club in particular, even though I like the (late afternoon-night) girl line up the best of any club at the moment. I am only pointing out that Palace at mid-day is a mere shadow of what it is nine or ten hours later.

I think every club has its strengths and weaknesses. For me, Palace's strength is really in the outstanding --sometimes even spectacular-- selection of girls that work there at nights. It's location in Frankfurt and easy accessability is also another strength in some people's mind. But clearly there are weakness. I've never encountered any negative aspects to the management there as you cite. But there are more than one person who work at the reception desk during the week, so maybe the Sunday manager is a real *****? Who knows...but if it were really so bad from the girls' point of view, why would so many girls choose this club over clubs like Oase? Is there really so much more business at Palace than at Oase? Maybe...

You say you will never try the place again. That is up to you to decide, and we all know what you mean. I would only restate that if you were to have visited during an evening session your impressions of the club would likely be quite different.

In the end, I like all the clubs in different ways and I feel blessed to have the choice between three great clubs within the FFM area.

Henio

03-29-05, 22:26

Hi Shiatsu,

In the fall of 2003, I arrived once at Oase, met a real grumpy and bitchy woman in the reception, had the bar staff sneering at me, started a session in the Kino with a girl that turned out to be a total b**ch in the room, cut the session short, don't need that kind of sh*t, told myself I would never be back to that dump and drove to Atlantis where everything turned out great.

Well, I have been back many times and Oase is one of my favourites. Don't know what they were serving in the soda that night, but sure was a bad streak of luck for me.

My personal experience of the staff at Palace is that they have been the nicest one (at least to me). One of the women serving the upper bar can sometimes put you off a little, but she is usually quite nice.

Visiting a club with great expectations and receiving substandard service is however a real turn off and I understand where you are coming from, but I think you should not write it off totally.

Chivaz

Dangerous Dan

03-29-05, 23:40

I was at Palace on Sunday afternoon. As it was Easter and early in the afternoon I wasn't expecting much and got exactly that. Not long after arriving and as I was going into the cinema, a tall brunette aproached me and started talking to me. After I explained to her that I didn't speak German, she cut to the chase and asked me if I wanted to go to the room with her. I politely explained that I just got there and that I wanted to relax first and look around. She very abruptly said something in German and walked off. I heard a laugh from a guy who was sitting in the cinema. I felt like saying something to the girl, but figured that it was better forget the incident and give my money to someone more deserving once I was ready.

I later found out that she was German. It's quite possible that she was Shiatsu's Anisa.

Later I was relaxing on the large swinging couch and was joined by a girl from the Dom. Republic (can't remember her name). She was very polite and not at all pushy. I had spoken to her once before on a previous visit and I guess I was a little interested but was still in relaxation mode. We spoke for about 20 minutes.

After a little break from converstion, she asked if she could touch me. By this time I had decided that my DR girl was the most interesting prospect, so I told her yes. After about 10 minutes touching and kissing, she asked if she could kiss my cock. We both knew the answer would be yes so she proceded with the BBBJ. After 5 minutes, we decided to get a room.

I was still in relaxation mode, so I was happy just lie down and accept the energetic BBBJ. Eventually the BBBJ finished with my mandatory CIM. For the remainder of the 30 minute session, we just played around in the room. I think she will be worth a repeat visit.

After some R&R time and a good feed (the food at Palace is far better than Oase and World) I decided to head off to Oase or world.

This was my second visit to Palace. On my first visit there were many more providers and customers whilst not being over crowded. I enjoyed it then and overall I enjoyed my visit on this occasion too.

DD

Wanking

03-30-05, 00:48

Just back from my first visit to the Palace,
Spent 2 days there and it was FUCKING FANTASTIC. I was in heaven, did 5 women yesterday and 2 today, all excellent.

detailed report soon,

all the best

Fred

Ps. my foreskin is sooo sore !!

Euro100

03-30-05, 02:01

Shiatsu,

My first vist to Palace was on a Monday afternoon at 4 pm. And it really sucked. There were only about 8 girsl around, and only 2 of them I would have wanted sex with, even if I did NOT have to pay for it. I compared this lineup to Oase at the same time of any given Monday and almost gave up.

But then I figured that I was not ready to write off the entrace fee and just leave and not return. So I asked at the reception if I could leave and come back later. They said sure and gave me a stamp. I went to downtown FFM and had a nice dinner, returning at 10 pm. Then there were about 30 girls present then, several of them very good looking. I got three quality pops off and was happy.

I like the layout of the place; and the facilities (with the exception of the showers) are great. And since I am not a sun-bather, I do not miss the outdoors part that is not there. Palace feels a bit more intimate, even though FKKW is still my favorite.

Perhaps you may want to give the place another chance ...

cheers
wuro

Novize

03-30-05, 07:56

Shiatsu,
...
Perhaps you may want to give the place another chance ...
...

Imho Shiatsu can wait at least until autumn 2005 with his decision.

The line-up at Palace wasn´t as great as in the weeks/months before. And as I have heard on monday, many girls plan to leave Palace and work at other clubs during the summer months.

So the cards will be reshuffled in October. And nobody knows which club will hold the best trumps in its hands, then.

Have fun,

Novize

Dedalus

03-30-05, 17:47

"The line-up at Palace wasn´t as great as in the weeks/months before. And as I have heard on monday, many girls plan to leave Palace and work at other clubs during the summer months."

Good point. Palace does suffer somewhat in the summer and spring. I have heard rumors that there are plans to add a second floor with a sun-terrace or something similar to help the club atmosphere during the summer. I am curious if anyone else has heard this.

I have always liked the PHG line-up during the summer months.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Novize

03-30-05, 18:05

I have heard rumors that there are plans to add a second floor with a sun-terrace or something similar to help the club atmosphere during the summer. I am curious if anyone else has heard this.

I heard this rumor, too - for the first time in March 2004 (for the last time on monday). So far without any result. And thinking about the location in the middle of an industrial area I can´t believe that a terrace at Palace would reach the quality of a real garden. But of course I would like to be surprised positively.

Dedalus

03-30-05, 18:21

"And thinking about the location in the middle of an industrial area I can´t believe that a terrace at Palace would reach the quality of a real garden."

Perhaps not a garden. Yet just imaginge a Sun-deck with two or three good sized whirlpools, a few cool-down pools, a bar, nice deck-chairs, Cindy and Marina walking by to occasionaly rub sun-screen on your back, a big screen TV with Premiere Sports showing a US Baseball game or in your case Novize the Indy 500...

Life could be sooo good.

Dedalus

Novize

03-30-05, 18:44

is great to watch, too. (Best, when hot-dogs are served - by beautiful, naked, willing women :D)

Marina and Cindy are two great reasons to visit even the darkest hole - even in summer.

But I doubt that the statics of this former warehouse allow a sun-deck on its roof without any big, loud, dirty and very expensive rebuildings. And whereelse would they have enough space for the equipment you mentioned?

Dedalus

03-30-05, 19:05

Novize,

Isn't that just like you. To burst my optimistic bubble with your sound logic.

Cheerio,

Dedalus

Novize

03-30-05, 19:16

I´m sorry. I hope you´ll accept my apologies.

I´ll invite you to a Coke during the F1-race on sunday at World. ;)

Never give up dreaming, for dreams might come true,

Novize

Optimist

03-30-05, 20:30

Fair enough everybody - perhaps I was a bit hasty. I shall try it again at a busier time. However I will be in no hurry -World had a couple of days recently when it blossomed and became very close to the way Atlantis used to be. I shall report in detail over the next few days
Shiatsu

Iseeu

03-31-05, 18:34

[QUOTE=Dedalus] I have heard rumors that there are plans to add a second floor with a sun-terrace or something similar to help the club atmosphere during the summer.

Hmm, anyone know if there are any rental apartments available in one of the buildings nearby, 3rd floor or higher? ;-}

Hessen Bub

03-31-05, 19:16

Palace is the club in Hessen I like most - since the closing of Atlantis. Try again, on weekdays, from 1700.

Hessen Bub

Dedalus

04-06-05, 22:31

Day One: Jet-Lag, FKKs and the Palace

For me personally, jet-lag and FKKs do not mix. In fact I think that God created misery
and jet-lag on the same day. I much prefer landing and taking the
day to re-acclimate my internal clock and then feeling right as rain for a sauna-club sex
tour on the following day. I was very close to following just such a prescription last Friday, however the prospect of seeing a number of my favorite FKK kittens at the Palace and meeting up with a fellow board member or two was too much to pass on. The word on the FKK street was that Vivian (Ex-Laura, Atl) was making CoLA in Augsburg her home-base and that Marina was still plying her trade at Sylt in Nürnburg. I was hoping that these reports would be false but, alas neither of these lovelies was in attendance on Friday. (As an aside for those who are interested, I have it on pretty good authority that Marina will be returning to Palace soon. When I know more, then I will certainly share the Intel with all the Marina-crazies. Being one myself I do feel your pain.)

Arrival time at the Palace was about 7:15 PM. Two positive signs hit me after I had trodden through the door, paid my fee, and grabbed my towel: One; The guy/gal ratio was certainly in favor of us three-legged guests. Two; Cindy was there in all of her glorious splendor. If I could land this lovely mermaid after so many failed attempts of late, then the evening would be a success.

Now catching Cindy on a weekend evening, or any other evening for that matter is no easy task. One basically has to park his butt at the little round table across from the buffet and wait till she collects her dough from the last satisfied customer. As she heads away to freshen up for her next victim, whom you hope and pray will be yourself, you have to hop to it and ask her if she has time for you next. More than likely she will smile at you and say that one or two guys are already ahead of you, that she is sorry and that she will look for you in a few hours. Ughhh!!! Then you have to keep track of her comings and goings and make it clear that you are waiting patiently when she finishes up with the lucky dogs who got there before you did. Of course you do not want to nag at her. She is a sweetheart and it would be the height of bad manners to but any more pressure on her than she is already has. However a polite smile and a kind word or even a laugh at her hectic pace will keep you in her thoughts. (Hopefully.) Now bear in mind that probably a dozen or so other guys are thinking the same thing that you are. You can easily spot the Cindy Fan-Club. They are packed around the front bar and have to wear drool-bags under their chins whenever this tall, polish goddess walks by to keep from drowning themselves and the others around them.

Those of you who read this and know Cindy can understand what I am describing. This takes commitment, especially on a busy night. In essence you have to accept that you will do no other sessions with the other girls until you have had your Cindy-session. It can mean sitting around for several hours. In the past I have been pretty lucky with her. I even remember mid-week nights when I was able to book her twice. I EVEN remember one strike-it-rich night when I was able to book, in this order, without waiting and at my leisure, Marina, Nicole (Tall knockout Latvian, babewatch type) AND Cindy(TWICE). I thought I had died and gone to heaven.

It became clear on Friday that despite the very positive guy/gal ratio that it was going to be another night that would require some serious persistence if I were to usher this delight to a room, for after my shower I saw Cindy talking and explaining the evening situation to four dudes sitting at the aforementioned round table. At least a two hour wait. I decided to play the field and hope to catch her in a quiet moment. After a quick survey of the room I spotted the following Mädels: Dilara, Daniela, Sasha, Elena (Spain), Elena(Ukraine), Linda, Kim, Yvonne, Simone and a few others. At the main bar I was approached by the Greek/Russian beauty ELINI who I had a session with several weeks ago. For me this little pussycat (yes, she likes to make “purring” noises) is a big turn on. She reminds me a lot of a former Atlantis girl named Vicca who had similar features but was taller. After taking a bit of time together on the big sofa swing to reacquaint ourselves with each other, she and I headed off to find a room. My session with Elini was even better than the last one as I think that she is now considering me to be a regular. She kisses deeply, gives out of this world oral and the sex with her is a good mixture of GFE and PSE with (at least with me) more emphasis on the GFE. Also she is a pretty bright girl and a good conversationalist. I am somewhat gun-shy about this as a result of ST. Ortos’ fears of collusion among the FKK females but she was cool and did not try to burn me on the time. I like this girl and would happily seek her out again.

After Elini, some nourishment was in order. Palace food, while not dinner at the Ritz is a repast that one can at least keep down. They could do better. Plus who wants to kiss anyone who was just had a Horseradish based cream sauce on their slice of beef?

It was interesting and fun to meet up with another board member and compare notes on this girl and that one; this club and that one; even this country and that one. I had an interesting three days of doing this with a number of you fellas out there in FKK-MB land. Novize is correct: it is the best way to kill time between sessions.

By midnight I had pretty much given up catching Cindy and started looking for other victims. Daniela was a likely candidate along with Dilara with whom I have had bucket loads of great sex in the past. I have also had my eye on the short Ukrainian cutie called SASHA. On my last several visits she was always pretty busy and this seemed like a good night to take her out for a test drive. I caught her at a quite moment on the couch across from the small sofa swing. After approaching her and inviting myself to sit down I was afraid that I had made an error. She seemed a little bit stand-offish although I did detect a cute smile now and then. The truth is that the girl has very limited German skills and even less English. Despite this dilemma the little vixen does have the wherewithal to sense when a gentleman is ready for some lovin’ and at the right moment she took me by the hand and led me off to one of the vacant rooms. Her service, while not the best that I have had, is far from the worst. She took good care of my needs and although it was a bit rushed I did enjoy being with her. No kissing, and the sex was pretty standard. We tried to converse some afterwards and she did give some effort. I really think that if I could have spoken Russian or Ukrainian with her that the session would have been even better. She does not give me the impression that she is on the hustle, but rather that she is just a shy girl in a strange land where she is having sex with strangers for money. I would go with her again, but I will wait until she acquires some more German first.

name: Sasha
hair: Brown with blond streaks, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,5 m
figure: slender perhaps a bit of extra flesh around the thighs, B/C Breasts
origin: Ukraine
born: ~ 1985 (I would bet that she is younger)
tattoos/piercing: None
service: bbbj, no kissing, standard service
other: usually wears a black leather belt around her hips
location: Palace, says that she has only been in Germany for a few months.

This session would do it for me that evening. As far as my visits to the Palace are concerned, this was only a middle of the road night. Two sessions; one top-shelf, the other just ok. No Cindy. The next time I head to Palace I will call ahead a month in advance and reserve my hour or so with her. Also my subsequent evenings at Oase and World would prove to be glorious beyond all my expectations. More to follow soon…

Cheers to all,

Dedalus

Catalyst

04-07-05, 03:59

I made a quick visit to Palace. The three girls I saw were all great:

Christina, 9, Venezuela, 22, shoulder length wavy black hair, thin. Did it in the kino. Great relaxed experience, though she seemed in a bit of a hurry to get away at the end.

Jessica, 10, Romania, 18, slim model figure, straight blonde hair covering her shoulders. Also in the kino. Great GFE.

Arabella, 7, Bulgaria, 24, long straight black hair, short. Later in the evening she spent time with me, just hugging and kissing for a long time.

Can’t say much about the food. When they are getting ready to put it out a huge line forms and if you are not in that initial locust swarm there is only scorched earth left when you get there.

Faisal

04-08-05, 16:51

Hi

Just wanted to know if the club accepts credi cards or not.

Faisal

Mahaba

04-09-05, 14:16

Palace does not accept credit cards. However, there is an ATM about a five minute walk from the club.

Toscana

04-09-05, 17:01

If I am not mistaken there is an ATM in the club. Or there will be one very soon.

Hessen Bub

04-09-05, 21:17

Christina, 9, Venezuela, 22, shoulder length wavy black hair, thin. Did it in the kino. Great relaxed experience, though she seemed in a bit of a hurry to get away at the end.

Jessica, 10, Romania, 18, slim model figure, straight blonde hair covering her shoulders. Also in the kino. Great GFE.

Christina is actually from Columbia, and I did not really enjoy the experience.

Jessy has a working attitude (IMHO) that fits more into the redlight-district at the train station in Frankfurt (Bahnhofsviertel). There are far better girls than these two at Palace.

And yes, there's an ATM in the club.

And yes, they do not accept credit cards.

Hessen Bub

Wanking

04-09-05, 22:07

The ATM only accepts German bank cards, and NOT Visa or Mastercard.

Wanking

04-09-05, 22:09

That is the ATM in the club that I am referring to. The ATM five minutes walk away DOES accept Visa and Mastercard.

Catalyst

04-09-05, 22:55

Hessen Bub

04-10-05, 18:11

Hessen,

Wow! So those were the bad ones? Maybe I have to spend more time here on my next trip.

I was pretty sure that Christina said she was from Venezuela, and she was pretty nice, so maybe we aren't talking about the same girl. I can see how Jessica could be a little business like, but saying that she belongs in the RLD goes way too far. I was in the mood, so maybe I wasn't discriminating, but kissing was no problem with her, nor was doing it in front of a crowd of other people.

Christina says she's from Venezuela, but she's not. Don't know why, but she does not like to admit she's from Columbia.

Jessy: I did her in the cinema, about 5 or 6 Italians watching. Kissing no problem, you're right, but she was rushing it, no feeling and she seemed to be absent. And I don't really like her face, it was my dick making the decision to book her. ;-)

And yes, there are far better girls. Alice from DomRep, Belen/Juliana from Spain, Kathi from DomRep, Christina from Romania and so on.

Hessen Bub

GabrielPontello

04-11-05, 10:56

Christina told also to me she is from Venezuela, but introduced me with her cousin, Ivana, saying she was from Columbia
It didn't make any difference to me....
I went with both of them and enjoyed
Ivana is one of the best blowjobber I ever met
Christina is not a special pick but has something I liked, don't know what
for sure the place offers many better choices if you like the eastern european kind of girls

Wanking

04-13-05, 01:00

palace trip report and observations 28th /29th march 2005

its now 2 weeks since my 2 day trip to the palace and looking back i have to say that it was the “horniest 2 days “ of my life. i have travelled the world and have been to all sorts of brothels, swingers clubs and orgies over the last 17 years, in that time i have had and some 400 women including some very hot girlfriends but i found the experiences and atmosphere of the palace just sexually mind blowing.

the reason it was so mind blowing is because i found 80% of the women there just so sexy. and of course the large helpings of oral sex really did it for me. since my return i have been masturbating about 4 times daily, slowly going over my brilliant experiences there!!

the palace is just so much better than anything that netherlands or belgium has to offer. there is no comparison between the palace and any other place i have ever been, sure i have been to swingers clubs where i have been laid 3 or 4 times in one day, and for very little money, but the difference in women is like “chalk and cheese”

i had 7 women in 2 days and i spent approx 500 euro, but so worth it.

day 1 28th march

so my flight landed at 10 am and i got a taxi to the ibis frankfurt west. the taxi only cost 24 euro, so i would say that is the best way to travel to the palace. i know the train/taxi or train/underground combos would be cheaper, but 24 euro is very acceptable to me for the 20 minute cab ride considering either of the other options will hit you for about 15 and take longer. the hotel was very pleasant and i found the palace very easily, 4 minutes from door to door.

i arrived at the palace at 11.30 am and i thought it looked like a dump from the outside, but after paying my 65 euro to the old lady at reception i was very impressed indeed. the palace really is a palace. there were only 4 or 5 girls (all hot) and the same numbers of customers at that time. after a walk around i went for a dip in the pool (its not a whirlpool or jacuzzi as reported, it’s a smallish round swimming pool that has a jet of bubbles in the middle). then chantel came over to say hello , she hunkered down beside me, and while talking all i could do was stare at her beautiful pussy peeping out between her legs. i was sold. i got out and dried and followed her down to the large swing on the right.

chantel – age 25-30 – 165 cm- slim - german – blonde – small tits – looks 8/10 – sex 7/10 was good but a little rushed.

i sat beside her on the swing and we started dfk straight away. after about 2 minutes i lay her down for daty, and then i rolled over moved her into a 69.
all was going well until i caught the sight of some old guy staring at us in the corner of my eye, and for some reason he started putting me off. now i have no problem performing in front of people, but i do have better sex when its just me and the girl. so cos i was paying my hard earned $$$ i decided to continue in a room. once in the room we resumed the 69, her oral was very good but she was rushing a little. she let me finger both holes deeply, and i couldn’t resist smelling my finger once i had retracted it from her anus. very impressed – absolutely no smell of shit at all! if anyone ever fingered my anus her finger would come out a different colour! after 10 mins or so, i felt my orgasm nearing so she finished me with an energetic cow girl fuck.

then i spent another 2 hours relaxing and wandering around. watched some great kino action. i was back in the big room when this plumpish girl with huge natural tits came in. i just knew i had to have her. cant remember her name but she’s turkish.

turkish girl – age 23-25 – 160 cm- plump - turkish – brown with blonde highlights – huge tits – looks 7/10 – sex 8/10 was good but a again a little rushed, also some good dfk

she sat at the bar and i went to sit beside her, we had a drink and she let me grope her beautiful boobs for 10 mins or so. i had a rock hard horn, which she stroked lightly, and then she let me finger her pussy deeply while sitting on the barstool. we went to the room and i spent a while sucking her big tits, i then got her on all fours and licked her pussy and anus before bagging up and doing her doggy style for abit. we finished in a 69, but i didn’t come on her tits or in her mouth. i came on my belly instead and therefore saved 50 euro! when we went to the locker, she started begging for a tip, which she didn’t get btw.

spent the next few hours having dinner, which was adequate at best, some time in the pool, sauna, flirting with the girls and generally having a good time. at one point i was talking to three girls and then they started comparing vaginal piercings, that was a nice sight. whilst lying on a couch in the big room around 7 pm, a very tall sexy blonde with massive tits came into the room.

bianca – age 20– 175 cm- curvy - romanian – blonde – massive tits – looks 10/10 – sex 8/10 was very good but no bbbj or kissing.

called her over and we chatted for a few mins, she let me touch her perfect boobs, and then we went the room. she avoided kissing, and wouldn’t do a bbbj, but still the sex was excellent cos she was so beautiful. i found this girl to touch the limits of physical perfection for me. id say she is the most beautiful woman i ever had sex with. just licking her pussy gave me immense pleasure, and i fucked her missionary while sucking her fabulous tits. i finished inside her.(well ok inside the rubber).
chatted with her later for a while , nice girl.

to be continued ….

Wanking

04-13-05, 01:07

Are all of the girls supposed to do BBBJ and DFK? Or is it their own choice?

Should one complain if one doesnt recieve a BBBJ or DFK?

Fred

PS. I would be heading back to the Palace in late April, but instead I have decided to go to Prague to try out the "free sex" in the Bigsister Nite club.

Novize

04-13-05, 10:55

you can expect BBBJ at Palace. A girl not offering this service should tell you upfront. You can cancel the session as soon as you recognize this. If she insists on the money, you may complain at the reception (perhaps it would be better not to complain, but to just refuse paying and look if she will complain at the reception).

If a girl kisses or not, is on her own desision and no reason for complaining. Cjeck out, before you go to a room.

Have fun,

Novize

MagicTouch

04-19-05, 15:20

Got one of the best GFE's of my life at Palace with a girl from Moscow (just Moscow oh là là) whose name unfortunately I have forgotten.

I was considering going Asian but she literally jumped on me while acrossing the bar area. She was blond, tall, very slim, with a very flat stomach decorated with a navel piercing and I found no particular reason not to accept her approach so after some funny kidding in Russian, English and German she invited me to action. I made clear that I was prepared to pay the standard 50 Euros no extras, whatever this may mean (did not check exactly).

Once in the room she showed more than happy to accept my foreplay, that began with an initially relaxing massage on her shoulders gradually converted into a sexy one, followed by enthusiastic fingering and prolonged DATY that she highly appreciated, at this point she was more than available to DFK and BBBJ, after that I got my rubber and we made love (if this is the way to name satisfactory fucking with a lot of kissing) until she realized that time was expiring. Since I said I would pay no extras, she removed my rubber and gave me another enthusiastic BBBJ, just asking me kindly to avoid CIM (would it be an extra or she wouldn't do it at all? I did not check). And so I did.

The mood was even good enough for some galanteries, she made big compliments to the beauty of my eyes (not the first pro to do this BTW ;-)) and I replied like the perfect gentleman, that she was the one who made them look like that.

I had a lot of fun in that place, I went there with 2 customers from Eastern Europe who did not know FKK's and they were so happy that they went there again on a following day. Another gentleman heard us speaking Russian and joined us - new friendship on the spot. And when I was about to leave, I unexpectedly met another customer with his dealers ...

Novize

04-19-05, 16:36

I´m glad you had a good time at Palace. Looks as if FKK-clubs would become a major tourist attraction in Germany... ;)

CIM would indeed be an 50€-extra, so I think it was absolutely fair from her to warn you.

Doing business with customers in a place like Palace would make me recommending 18-hour-workdays! :D

MagicTouch

04-20-05, 08:34

Member 2974,

I would highly recommend to take customers to FKK's for a relaxed business section. You can sit hours wearing nothing by a towel and talking about your things and nobody will disturb you. That's exactly what I did with the customers (from Turkey ...) I met by chance. The only problem you may have is with the bill, I am wondering how many companies will cover these "PR costs", with or without receipt ... obviously, it will be easier if you run your own company ;-)

The customers I went with were extremely happy, they went for a Brasilian sexy bomb. I made them happy with a little effort

Novize

04-20-05, 09:04

the company I work for wouldn´t tolerate this. Most probably I would be fired... :(

But as long as they pay me enough money to settle my club-bills, I will live with it... ;)

Have fun,

Novize

Peter

04-20-05, 22:09

As one of the few cusomers of your company, I think it would be OK. I have a couple of friends who are shareholders, they probably have no problem with it either.

I have taken clients there before too. But I have never paid for them, or tried to write it off. They have paid their bill, I mine, but they still liked the experience.

I do work with foreigners though.

Valmont

04-21-05, 02:29

Have to rave on one of the girls at Palace. Sorry that this is a short report.

Jasmina, who is half-Spanish, half-Polish, and around 5-3, about 120 pounds, with dark shoulder-length brown hair and sparkling eyes. She's tan all over and has a great bubbly personality. When I approached her she said she was going to dance, but if I cared to wait, she'd make it worth my while. Boy did she ever! She had incredible energy and was not a true GFE, but rather like a girlfriend you haven't seen in six months. Outstanding experience!

Routard

04-21-05, 16:38

I can confirm, FKK is a highly recomended place to bring customers, if not the best.

Germany's industry and economy create enough opportunities to make a business trip. Even if there is no opportunity, it is easy to convince your company, your family and (not to forget) the customer's company and family that there is one. It's a lot more difficult for you and him to convince anybody that you go to Brasil ot Thailand only for business.

FKK are extremely clean with high class facilities, and a very relaxed atmosphere, it will suit to any VIP customer. If you are not quite sure wether your customer would appreciate to be offered sex, there is no risk to offend him. As there is no hassling, your customer is free not to go further than just watching, like in a usual strip club, and enjoying only the facilities (sauna, massage, food, drinks...). Anyway, even if your customer has no previous mongering experience, it's hard to imagine any man in an FKK refusing sex.

Yes, with just a towel around your waist, plenty of time and this typicall relaxed FKK atmosphere, there is no better place to discuss with a customer.
And even after, your customer will never consider you on the same way again. You have shared together an unique experience, and he will never forget you made discover him this magical world. I think anybody of us has still in mind that memorable experience of the very first time in FKK.

Which FKK are the most suitable for business? The bathrobe policy in the Dusseldorf area may be less intimidating than a simple towel for a first timer, and couch action is less likely to happen. Goldentime and PHG are good values. But my experience is that those clubs have a typicall German (and Dutch) atmosphere, which can make a foreign customer feel unconfortable. The Frankfurt Area have more ethnical diversity regarding the visitors, and English is largely spoken. World, Oase and Palace are ecellent values for non German speaking customers.

Regarding the expenses, my policy is to pay transport and hotel to the customer (which will be refunded by my company), but not the sex. You are not a pimp offering girls. It will be more confortable also for your customer. Once in an FKK, it's not a customer anymore but a friend, and both pay for their sex expenses. Once a customer was getting short of cash, I paid his last session. But it was clear for him that I paid from my private money as a friend, not as a business partner.

I heard some FKK accept credit cards and can make special bills. I would not recomend this. Your boss is not the only guy to convince, there are several other employees (account...) in your company who may see the bill. Don't blow up your reputation in your company for a few Euros. It was worth the money anyway.

Henio

04-26-05, 00:42

A good sleep was needed after some marathon sessions at World Saturday night. Woke up Sunday between 12 and 13, checked out of the hotel and headed for Palace. I had no illusions that I would get the same kind of sessions I just had at World the night before, but it still turned out alright.

Sunday daytime at Palace is pretty slow, but also pretty relaxing. Arrived around 13:00. There was enough left of the breakfast/brunch to have some decent sandwich. About 10 girls were present, most of them in the 5-7 range. I spent the first hour relaxing but soon spotted:

name: Isabel
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,6 m
figure: slim, very nice C breasts
origin: Romania
born: 1982
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: bbbj, DFK
other:
location: Palace

Isabella worked for couple of months at World about year and a half ago. She remembers the top acts there and we chatted for a while about that. She just started again 2 days ago. Lives in Giessen and has been studying something I guess would translate to Wholesale trade and export. Have no idea if that is true, and don’t really care, but she was a nice conversation partner.

Her body is quite nice and her breast are excellent. Decent DFK followed by DATY and BBBJ. All in all a pretty good session and I would repeat.

Had a long rest and actually thought about calling it a day and go grab a bite downtown before heading out to Hahn to catch my flight back home. As I was relaxing on the bench/sofa by the bar, then arrives next to me:

name: Angelique
hair: Dark redish, short
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slim, A breasts
origin: Russian
born: ~ 1975
tattoos/piercing: small tatoo above right buttock
service: bbbj, DFK
other:
location: Palace

This is not my first session with Angelique and she is one of the better known FKK girls, voted miss Atlantis some years ago and has capitalized on her fame since then. Today I was not in the mood for some of her sarcastic jokes, but decided to have the session anyway.

Reminded of Dedalus’s experience with her few weeks ago, I decided to keep a good track of the time. Decided from the start to have 1 hour session as I was in the mood to be pampered.

The sex part of the session was regular Angelique, slow licking, decent blowjob good kissing etc., but still she really does not do it that much for me anymore. She is a bit over the top, quite materialistics and I get kind of tired of her talk about nice cars and big credit cards. But the best part of the session was still to come.

After I came we had about 25 minutes left of the session. She asked me if I wanted more sex, more bbbj or some massage. I opted for the massage and what followed was the best massage I have gotten from a FKK girl. To me it seems that she knows a bit about massaging. She used lots of oil, had this trick of really heating up her hands by rubbing them hard against each other, did the right spots and added just the right amount of erotica to the massage.

After she did my back, she packed me into a towel and continued on my legs. I was a aware of the time and made sure we left the room with 3 minutes left of the hour. Had a feeling she might try to extend over the hour but cannot be sure, but I did not give her the opportunity to hang around.

This will probably be my last session with her as she just does’nt ring my bells anymore. Might go for another massage though.

This concludes the 3 club visit this time. World stands out for me this time, but probably not fair to Palace as I did not visit there until Sunday. Seems that Palace was rocking on Friday and Saturday though from what the girls told me.

Chivaz

Ortos

04-26-05, 12:24

During the past week, I visited Palace a few times. Towards the end of the week, I started to notice alot of girls who are often called "stars." For Peter, who loves this girl, I post the following:

Mascha, the slim Russian brunette, was at Palace last Sat night. I don't know if she was there on Friday, since I wasn't there Friday. She was not there Thurs or Sun. During the Saturday night she spent alot of time working as a two-girl tag team, with the Russian/Greek girl Eleni. They would go around and find two guys together. Then take them together into a room, or on one occassion did the whole session in the kino. I was lucky to be lying in the kino when they came in with their two charges. It was nice to watch the girls working on the guys. This Mascha was really wild, fucking the shit out of this guy in reverse cowgirl...or was it anal? Too dark to see for sure.

Other so-called "star" girls I noticed:

Cindy, blonde-buxum bombshell
Marina, Lithuania
Daniela, Romania
Angelika, Siberia (not looking so good anymore IMHO!)
Christina, Romania

But there were lots of other girls, some regulars, some new. I also met some girls who work Palace in addition to other clubs, like Flamingo Island. They told me they come to Palace for the weekends, but work the other club(s) during the week.

Altogether I found incredible variety at Palace, and as I was also visiting Oase and World during the same days, I was able to experience the line-ups of all three clubs and produce a gut-reaction as to which club had the overall best girl line-up. In my opinion, Palace won hands down!

Valmont

04-26-05, 20:35

Hey guys, if any of you will be at either World or Palace on Wednesday afternoon/evening/night, I'll be there with some friends of mine. At both places, I tend to hang around the bar. I'm wanting to put some faces with the names on here. SO if you are going shoot me a PM.

V

Jaas

05-02-05, 22:48

Can you leave Palace and come back later the same day without paying a second entrance fee? I'm thinking of going to during the day and then leaving for dinner and coming back later that night. How does that work?

Thanks,

Jaas

Peter

05-03-05, 07:45

Jaas,

That is no problem. Just tell the people at the door when you come in the first time that that is your plan. Then make sure you tell them again when you leave the first time. They will remember your face. In'n'Out is the motto of all these clubs, and they allow it in this manner too.

Henio

05-03-05, 12:09

Jaas,

At Palace they actually give you a stamped note to turn in when you come back. I have done this a few times for exactly the same reason as you, i.e. getting some decent dinner. Never had any problems with the second entry

Chivaz

Akibono

05-04-05, 04:57

The last time I was in the club there was a real looker. Blond, medium height with a gorgeous face. She looked German, but I can't be sure. I don't know her name because we never had a session. She wears a bright red wide sash around her waist (most girls in Palace do this instead of using a towel). She is one of the prettiest girls so she had no shortage of customers. I saw at least 3 people approach her for sessions. However, all three were back at the lockers after 15 minutes!! So, if you like eye candy, she may be the one for you, but don't expect anything more than a mechanical experience. When a girl like that shuttles customers back after 15 minutes, you know she is only interested in getting you to come asap and to collect the money. Too bad, the girl could easily have have hour sessions with many clients. But then again if there is a waiting list, why not get 50E for 15 minutes.

Akibono

05-04-05, 05:02

The last time I was in Palace there was a Greek girl that looked alot like a girl I had met in Atlantis year ago. She was called Sia and provided great service with a stellar personality. The last I heard she had married some German guy who was much older. This girl looked like the same one--only years older. If anyone knows if that is her, let me know. If so, it is too bad because her looks are nowhere like that a few years ago. When she was at Atlantis, she would cruise the place and talk with the customers. She could pick up a customer without any work and was constantly busy.

Toki Jo

05-05-05, 09:21

Report on Palace FKK. Its a short taxi ride from the main train station, cost less than 10 euros to get there. Even the taxi had an advertising banner on its doors.

Anyone wanting a cheap and decent hotel, try the Excelsior on Manheimer Strasse near the station. Book via Hrs.de it will cost you 51 euros which includes a free minbar, free internet access, breakfast and afternoon snacks. Rooms are adequate and clean.

I can only make a comparison to Atlantis where I unfortunately got caught up in the raid a year ago. Palace is quite a big establishment, nicely presented but does not seem to have either the quality and ambience, nor the presence of Atlantis, sadly now closed down.

At reception, I was told of the prices and shown around the place and at 23:45 hrs, a hot and cold buffet was still on offer. You are given a key to two lockers, one for your clothes and another for your valuables. A plastic tag is put on your wrist and is taken off when you leave.

I had a 30 minute massage which I rated top class near the steam room.

After this, I made my way to the action arena. Probably the ratio was 2:1, so choice was not great. Only a handful I would rate at 6-7, no more. At the back of the bar is a large size jucuzzi pool and sauna.

A russian, named Angelika with short brunette/reddish hair came over and started conversation and advised the starting price was 50 euros, but would increase to 100 euros for CIM Angelika was very pleasant and mentioned about this board where she has had very good reviews in the past.

There was some couch action, especially in the video room. During the course of the evening, there was a two girl show pole dancing but both girls who were the best of the bunch that night did not seem to be making themselves available.

Later, I met another pleasant and friendly girl with massive tits from Greece who came over to try to hook up with me.

I left Palace at 3am but personally, I would try Oase and World next as many past reviews on this board advises there is more choice and better quality.

Peter

05-05-05, 11:00

toki,

that Anjelika you were talking to is from Omsk, and she was voted ***** of the year by the german board Roemerforum two years ago. She is known for excellent service and really getting into it.

Hessen Bub

05-05-05, 18:18

I saw at least 3 people approach her for sessions. However, all three were back at the lockers after 15 minutes!!

Doesn't have to mean a thing. I know some top acts who do this if they like to, but also can be great for 30, 60 or 240 minute sessions.

And some men do not look for more than a 15 minute fuck, they are not into after-sex-talk and strive to leave the room as quick as possible.

Hessen Bub

Toki Jo

05-05-05, 23:10

I don't doubt that as I found her friendly and easy to talk to. She was just not my type.

toki,

that Anjelika you were talking to is from Omsk, and she was voted ***** of the year by the german board Roemerforum two years ago. She is known for excellent service and really getting into it.

Akibono

05-06-05, 04:06

Doesn't have to mean a thing. I know some top acts who do this if they like to, but also can be great for 30, 60 or 240 minute sessions.

And some men do not look for more than a 15 minute fuck, they are not into after-sex-talk and strive to leave the room as quick as possible.

Hessen Bub

If that is what you look for, that's fine. But most people here are looking for the GFE. They want the illusion that the girl thinks they represent more than a 50E note. I think most people would want more than 15 minutes. Just providing a report for those who might want a bit more than eye candy.

Peter

05-06-05, 21:36

Aki,

I don't want to be the guy who disagrees with you all the time. But I am not really looking for a GFE when I go the clubs. If I want a GFE, I fuck my GF. I'll be honest she probably fucks better than any girls I have fucked in a club, although she is not nearly as good in the BJ department, although she swallows.

But I am not looking for all the emotional attachment she associates with sex. I am just looking for some relaxation, and I lie that after it is over it is over. I have had a couple of girls win clubs who have gotten posessive and clingy like a GF and it really bothers me. That is why I do not understand the guys who go to Thailand or Brasil and hang out with the girl all day or night.

Maybe it is because I am young and decent looking and have no problem meeting girls, but I go to clubs for unattached pleasant fucking. If I rim a girl in a club she doesn't look at me funny thinking I expect her to rim me back. I can sport fuck every now and again, and I can also just choose to lay back and let her blow me for half an hour.

I have some other girls I go with regularly where it is more of a "friends with benefits" experience. We go to the room and just talke for a long time about everything under the sun, and then we fuck for a while and go back out. So I am not really looking for this big deal acting world. sometimes I even tell the girl, "hey it doesn't look like you have earned anything today, let's go and earn you some money"

But I am weird sometimes.

Dedalus

05-06-05, 22:12

Aki,

But I am not looking for all the emotional attachment she associates with sex. I am just looking for some relaxation, and I lie that after it is over it is over. I have had a couple of girls win clubs who have gotten posessive and clingy like a GF and it really bothers me. That is why I do not understand the guys who go to Thailand or Brasil and hang out with the girl all day or night.

I have some other girls I go with regularly where it is more of a "friends with benefits" experience. We go to the room and just talke for a long time about everything under the sun, and then we fuck for a while and go back out. So I am not really looking for this big deal acting world. sometimes I even tell the girl, "hey it doesn't look like you have earned anything today, let's go and earn you some money"

But I am weird sometimes.

I could not agree more. I visit these places for the exact same reason and I personally think this a healthy outlook. I have spoken with other forum members about the need to not take this "hobby" too seriously. Relax, fantasize, and have fun. To take our "relationships" with these ladies too seriously and not see them for what they really are is delusional and may create unnecessary difficulties.

Cheers,

Dedalus (Another weirdo)

Henio

05-07-05, 01:14

Hi guys,

I (and I think most including Aki) actually use the term GFE not to imply emotional attachment, but mainly to indicate that the girl performance was more than mechanical RLD kind of sex, showed some "kindness" instead of "discust", and was able to carry out a decent and perhaps interesting conversation. Hell, it can even be nice to get some compliments, even when you know it is a part an illusion. Sometimes you also feel like chilling a little bit afterwards, get some massage or just have a smoke or a sip of drink after sex instead of just watching the girls heels as she sprints óut of the room. It is a kind of intimacy without much emotion.

The above is what I read form Akibonos comments, but he can correct me if I'm wrong.

The best girls in my opinion are those who are able to mix up GFE/PSE (whatever you like at the time), and c'mon, it is most of the time all acting anyways, even some of the interesting conversation can be acting like the "friends with benefits", although some may be genuine. In terms of getting you back into the room, some of the girls are not stupid. Many will figure out what you want and give it to you, conversation or otherwise.

If the term is associated with the girl hanging on to you afterwards, getting posessive, I agree with Peter, I don't want that kind of GFE. I still think that is most often also an act, just a different kind of act.

IMO, FKKs are providing what most would call GFE when they compare it to other p4p in Europe. It is actually a term some will attach to a girl for barely allowing kissing.

Is'nt all a make believe world, just with different preference on the type of play and acting? Some people like the rides at Disney World while others like to chat with Mickey Mouse ;-)

Just my 2 cents on the issue,

Chivaz

Akibono

05-07-05, 03:49

I agree with all of the comments here. I think most of us feel a little uncomfortable when we visit a club and a girl we have previously seen expects us to have a session with them.

For me sex is important, but I don't like being treated like a 50E note. So, when I am processed for 15 minutes, it just feels that way. I think most people feel this way. I don't think many of us have such an attachment to any girl that we would feel jealous when she goes into the room with another customer. However, many have expressed sadness when a LT provider has left the business.

Akibono

05-07-05, 04:02

Was in Palace a few weeks ago and had sessions with Anya as well as Elena.

Elena is one of my favorite providers. She just has everything I am looking for. Fair skin, petite, pretty face, bubbly personality, and most important, she likes to kiss for a long time. I always get alot of passion from her even though she does not speak alot of English. First met her at OAse and she disappeared for quite awhile. Highly recommended.

While I was there (it was a really busy night), I did not have an opportunity to have a session with a dutch girl (I think she has been mentioned here before). She comes to Germany for a few days at a time. She is a tall, thin, blond with slightly curly long hair. Perfect breasts and very friendly. Apparently the locals know her since she had some extended sessions and several approached her to ask when she was free. So, she was booked for the entire night.

Also, had a session with a French girl (kinda surprising since this is the first I have met at a FKK). I will not post her name since I feel she would not want it known. She said she does not come often and more so for the sex than the money. I believe her since we talked for a long time and I actually had to suggest that we go to a room. Sex was passionate, but I suspect that YMMV with this one since she was quite interested in who I am instead of making the most money.

Beffen1

05-07-05, 06:20

i arrived in ffm at 11:00 and the cute desk girl at the excelsior took one look at my 6 foot eight frame and gave me a nice double, even though i told her i would stay only one night and not three as i reserved. the flight was not too restuful, so i chilled in the room until around 16:00. then it was easy to walk around the corner and catch the u4, changing trains when the overhead announcement said to change for the u6 or 7. i caught a u6 and got off at industriehof, walking across the crossing and ahead through the first gap in the wall and down the block to palace. at 5 pm, the ratio was about even and there were a number of hotties about, about 20 girls total. angelique soon chatted me up, she thought she knew me from atlantis hehe. she looked a bit younger and kind of cute this day, but for me once is enough with her.

i noticed a blonde with an incredible ass and legs with frizzy long blonde hair. soon she was beside me on the couch against the wall near the bar downstairs. she draped herself on top of me comfortably and we schmoozed and smooched and petted a bit before i took her to a room. she is romanian- i'm pretty sure her name was nicolletta? facially, she looks like sarah jessica parker. the sex was okay, but she seemed a bit rushed and kept asking what do you want? anal is 100, cum on face is 50, what do you want?

i ate a delicious buffet of tender braten beef, potato gratin and salads, very good this time. i spotted on the line for food grosse diana and i think marina, other tall lithuanian godesses, the lineup steadily improved in the early evening. i went to eat and rest under the "tent" and two cute slim thai girls sat nearby, then a more plump one. after the food, jani, the plumpest one, began to carress me and massage me for nearly 45 minutes so i took her to a room after we started kissing a bit and she rubbed me hard. she was into the sex it seemed, but i did not fancy her body and so pounded her for almost 40 minutes and paid her 50 since i lost track of the time.

next, i spent some time couch potatoing near the bar watching the dancers. a guy was getting a blow job standing right at the bar from a dominican girl. this is one of my favorite spots- much action and there is an open window at the end of the couch that blows cold air just in front of the dance pole. adorable, young (just 18!) blonde little jessie of romania was putting on quite a show with her open legs, she sat on my lap and i felt her up and played for a while but i have been with her once and she is a young tease and not worth 50 euro except as an optikfick so she went along on her way. greek eleni came by, i could not remember if what i had read was good or bad so i claimed caput. i like her look though and now that i know she is good, i will go next time.

an attractive slim brunette walked by for a second time, perky b cups and a [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) ass soon had me joining sarah from croatia in a room, though now we had to wait on a couch for some 15 minutes. another run of the mill session having all of the right acronyms but with little chemistry.

by now it's like 1 am and i am hungering for the real thing. marina is nowwhere to be seen. i have the last couple of pieces of beef and potato gratin- delicious, and go back to my couches for another hour of hunting. the mongers at palace do not seem as friendly as at phg, golden time, or world, when i go to palace alone i seem to remain alone unless i am with a girl. anyway, i see in my notes that i did as a fourth and final girl a romanian named ramona but i cannot for the life of me remember anything about it. jet lag kicks in?

i hung around for another hour or so. i noticed a big buxom porno blonde, is this the amazing cindy? on a final go around i saw marina, sitting by herself behind the whirlpool. as i have been with her twice before, and she did not make any move at all at recognition, i assumed she was tired or otherwise wanted to be alone and walked on by, into the locker and called it a night.

thus ended a less than stellar evening for me at palace- first time i didn't have at least one real good session there. on the wayout, a well dressed englishman was not being allowed to leave since it was claimed he owed another 100 euro to a girl and was refusing to pay it- the female attendents were keeping him inside and he wanted to call police to explain it to them.

slept well at the excelsior and did world the next three days running. more on that later.

beffen

Ortos

05-08-05, 00:00

Beffen,

Sorry you did not have such great success this time at Palace. On my last several visits there I have always been lucky and had great times, enjoyed great chemistry and sessions there. I like the Palace kino alot for hanging out in later stages of recovery.

I think just being and interacting with the slightly changing girl assemblage at Palace from day to day does help one in selecting the right ones for your sessions. But you seem to have been right on the mark by dismissing girls like the Romanian Jessie.

Just so you know: The first girl you write about, Nicolletta, was quite a well-known girl at Atlantis from 2002-2004. She was one of the earlier Atlantis sessions for me. I never resessioned with her mainly because, like you, I thought she had a great body but a mediocre performance and attitude.

Yeah, you definitely should have given Eleni a try.

Hope you give Palace another try one day...

Howie

05-08-05, 07:45

I too, like Beffen, had a crappy time at Palace last week. I had high expectations for a good time being that it was a Friday night and having been there twice before.

The girl selection wasn't that great, mainly 6 & 7's with a couple of 8's wandering around. There was one girl that was very rude there. I don't know her name but she had blonde hair, tanned, fairly good looking but with a cross-eyed kind of look. Maybe german or east european. Does anyone know who she is? She hangs out with a fairly dark skinned good looking brown haired girl.

Anyways although there was slim pickings, I did manage one session that evening and that was with Isabelle, a petit and slim Rumanian girl. She had only been there a few weeks. The session was ok. Nice talkative girl.

I had better sessions later on that week at Cola, World and Oase.

Howie

Valiant2

05-08-05, 08:10

Beffen1

05-08-05, 20:12

Member 2652,

Yes there is a charge for the regular massage at Palace- it is like 30 euro for 30 minutes of neck and shoulders massage, and I think 45 for 30 minutes of whole body massage with an hour costing 60 euro. Pretty much the same as at World and Oase. The hammam treatment is expensive though if I remember.

beffen 1

Xxxplorer

05-09-05, 13:52

If you bid for a three star hotel on Frankfurt's West side on Priceline.com , you can get the Courtyard Messe for around a US$45 to US$55 bid. With taxes you come out with US$65 per night for the room.

The hotel has a free courtasy shuttle from the FRA Airport. You can call the hotel at the free call box which is located at the Hotel Shuttle Pick Up Area. The Courtyard Messe's green shuttle picks you up in about 15 minutes (depending on traffic). On departure the shuttle brings you back to the airport from the hotel at no charge too.

The hotel is great for those staying in FRA on a short layover (1 or 2 night). Keep in mind that the hotel is isolated (did not see restaurants, stores within walking distance of the hotel). Yet for a 10 Euro - less than a 10 minute taxi ride you will be at the Palace. If Palace is your only Frankfurt stop the Courtyard Messe is a good choice. You can always partake of the free meals, juices, and softdrinks available at the Palace to keep you fed during your stay.

Keep in mind that the above prices are available when there is no a trade show at the Messe. You will pay much higher in case there is an event at Messe.

Toki Jo

05-09-05, 21:54

Toki Joe,

I noticed you referred to a 30 minute massage near the steam room. Was there a charge for the massage? If so, how much? I have seen massages mentioned in several other posts but never was there a mention if that is a provided service or an extra charge.

I can confirm the 30 minute partial massage (neck, back and shoulders) cost me 30 euros, but it was very professional and relaxing. I cannot remember other prices but you can opt for a 60 minute massage at a higher price.

Dadou29

05-10-05, 18:40

Viagrant

05-12-05, 05:18

Natalie was my most GFE experience. She is a small Czech girl with curly blond hair. She has a great thin body with a great ass and a tatoo above it.
Great DFK, incredible BBBJTC and wild sex. She loves sex and she shows it.

We stayed 1hour in the room and after that she stayed 1 hour in my arms in the main room : isn't that GFE attitude ?

If you want to find her you have to go to Palace before 9pm.

Enjoy

Dadou29,
This sounds like the same Nathalie who worked at FKK Beach last November. http://www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=322336&postcount=83 I enjoyed my time with her, and will have to look for her the next time I visit Palace.
Thanks for letting us know she is there,
Viagrant

P.S. I am attaching a couple of pictures of her that were from the Starlight web site when she worked for FKK Beach. See if it is the same girl.

Ortos

05-12-05, 05:34

yes, i can confirm that the petite czech girl named natalie at palace these days is the same girl in the two photos posted just below.

i first saw her working at palace in january. she is there quite often because i saw observed her during subsequent visits to palace in march and april. don't know why, but it took me until my april visit to try a session with her. i was very, very pleased with her attitude and performance and i did curse myself for not sessioning with her during earlier months as there was always good opportunities. she gave me a great session which was kind of a gfe/pse mix. definitely i would repeat. she is fairly popular but not impossible to snag if you are patient. on the occassion i sessioned with her, she actually approached me on the long bench couch by the upper bar. she came over and laid with me talking and cuddling for a half hour before she took my hand and led me to a room. i'd be interested to see what a repeat session would be like...definite [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) beffen material...

Dadou29

05-12-05, 12:01

Yes Viagrant that's her. Nice pictures by the way.

Why did you show me these pictures :mad: ? Now I have to go see her this week end !!! You're gonna cost me money !

Don't worry, I'll survive that ;)

THANKS

Blondofil

05-15-05, 07:42

I entered Palace, a few minutes after midnight and there was lots of good looking girls, and not to many men.

name: Marcella
hair: Brown, long
size: ~ 1,66 cm
figure: slim, very nice C breasts
origin: Brazil
age: mid twenties
tattoos/piercing: one tatto under one of her breasts

Marcella is a very beautiful girl, good massage and sex, but no kissing and she had garlic breath, this girl is beautiful and gives great sex, but no GFE IMHO.

name: Anna
hair: Dark, long and curly
size: ~ 1,70 cm
figure: slim, a cup
origin: Greece
age: mid twenties
tattoos/piercing: no

Anna is a typical greek/mediterean girl, she is very friendly give great bbb
name: Sofia
hair: Curly fake blond
size: ~ 1,6 m
figure: slim, very nice b breasts
origin: Venezuela
age: early twenties
tattoos/piercing: no

name: Miriam
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,7 cm
figure: slim, B breasts
origin:Domincan republic
born: mid twenties
tattoos/piercing: no

name: Marie
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,6 m
figure: slim, very nice C breasts
origin: Domican republic
born: mid twenties
tattoos/piercing: no, wears a gold belt

name: Linda
hair: Brown curly, long
size: ~ 1,75 cm
figure: slim, Incredibly huge natural breats, G or H cup ??
origin: Czech republic
born: mid/late twenties
tattoos/piercing: no

Ebauche

05-21-05, 13:26

I too, like Beffen, had a crappy time at Palace last week. I had high expectations for a good time being that it was a Friday night and having been there twice before.

You posted you went on the 29th. Clubs are less active at the end of the month. As I understand it, ALL Germans, including hourly workers, get paid on the 1st of the month. Discretionary cash gets very tight at then end. Therefore, far fewer native customers, and therefore fewer girls working. Been there, done that, went home disappointed.

Rain City

05-21-05, 18:06

I visited Palace first time last Friday. Alex P Keaton's direction was extremely helpful.

I arrived at Palace around 9 PM. Took my time to get acquainted with the surroundings.

Compare to other FKK clubs, the advantages of Palace are: 1) close proximity to Frankfurt (around 10 Euro to most of downtown hotels, or less than 30 min. by train); 2) better food than I have seen at any FKK; and 3) not many high pressure selling girls.

I had three sessions and the following is the summary:

1. Charley
She said she is German from Berlin, but later I overheard she was telling she was from Poland. So I do not know which one is true. She is about 5'9, 120 lb. Gorgeous body and pretty face. The session was very nice as well. 8.5/10/9 (face/body/service). Highly recommend.

2. Natalie
She is Czech. Her body is a bit rounder than I would normally go for. But she had a beautiful face and I really liked the way she talked. So I decided go with her. We went to the TV room first, and she provided nice GFE there. At that point, I knew my choice was right. The session in the room was nice as well. 9/7.5/9.5. Best GFE of the night. Highly recommend.

3. Isabel.
She is from Romania. IMHO, she was the most beautiful girl of the night with the best body. However, the session with her was rather uninspiring. No repeat for me. 9.5/9.5/5.

I think the old proven technique always work. Observe the interaction between the girl and her client. You can get pretty good idea what kind of session you will have. I did that with Charley and Natalie, and both provided nice services. I fail to do the same with Isabel, and took a chance (because she was so hot!!!).

Henio

05-22-05, 00:54

Hi Rain,

I had a session with Isabel few weeks ago and it was actually a very good one and I would definetly repeat. Just goes to show that the girls can have their good and bad days and YMMV. It might also have something to do with it was a very relaxed Sunday afternoon with few clients around.

Chivaz

Hessen Bub

05-22-05, 08:52

1. Charley
She said she is German from Berlin, but later I overheard she was telling she was from Poland. So I do not know which one is true. She is about 5'9, 120 lb. Gorgeous body and pretty face. The session was very nice as well. 8.5/10/9 (face/body/service). Highly recommend.

She's half Dutch, so might have told she's from "Holland", not Poland. She called herself Janny before, and her performance is great.

Hessen Bub

Trojan_tds

05-22-05, 13:31

I was with Charlie several weeks ago and she was very good. Started talking a little after the session and she told me she was born in Holland but has lived in Berlin since she was a child. She says she works only one or two days a week because she has a boyfriend who does not know about the job. Also said she works another day job and just does the FKK thing to try and save up to buy a BMW Z3.

Trojan

She's half Dutch, so might have told she's from "Holland", not Poland. She called herself Janny before, and her performance is great.

Hessen Bub

Peter

05-22-05, 20:47

A Z3!

What a noble cause!

I'm sure when she drives around the streets of Berlin she'll be so proud of how she earned the money for the fly ride. Gives new meaning to "Pimp My Ride".

I ran into a provider today when I went to the fitness studio with my ex girlfriend. I saw Naomi from GT, who used to work in Dolce Vita. She is a pretty Ethipian looking girl, but I think she is Moroccan. She was arguing about how her membership should have been extended because she was "out of country" for 3 months.

I ru into the women all over the place in their normal lives. but somehow I think the eastern europeans who help buy their parents an appartment are doing something a little more meaningful than buying that Z3!

Jaas

05-22-05, 23:22

I was at the Palace on the 15th, 16th, and 17th of May. I have been several times before and had great times. This time, I had a good time, but the least exciting yet. There seemed to be less "star attractions" this time around. Don't get me wrong, there were definitely attractive women, but there just seemed to be something missing. I spent a session with Marcella for a couple of reasons. one being that she is extremely attractive, and two, she is Brazilian. We have all heard that the Brazilians are great in the sack, but she proved to be the exception, I guess. She spent a good portion of our time telling me how she wanted to go to America and she needed to marry an American to get her Green Card. She then proceeded to ask if I was married and if I wanted to take up her offer of getting married and she would have sex with me as much as I wanted. This was a bit of a turn off, but I managed to put it out of my mind to get the ball rolling. The sex was good, but nothing spectacular as I was expecting from a Brazilian. Afterwards, I was paying her and I handed her a 10 Euro tip for some crazy reason. She then told me it was 100! I said, no, it's 50. She said, no, we were in the room for an hour. I knew this was a complete lie because I happened to know the time we went in. I said I couldn't believe she was trying to rip me off after I had already given her a tip. We haggled for a couple of minutes and told her that I knew she was lying and if she wanted more money to go get the manager. She then hugged me and kissed me on the cheek and said thank you as if nothing had happened. Crazy!

I had a few other average sessions including one with the girl with the enormous real breasts. Her breasts are too big for me, but she seemed nice and really was cute. Too bad she was uneventful in bed.

Probably the best session I had was with Jazmin, a black haired, tanned, great bodied German. She is Hot! I know that the German girls have a bad reputation, but in previous experiences, I have been quite lucky. She was a bit cold, but I was very attracted to her so I went for it. The session was good, but certainly not the best. Her looks definitely did it for me. She warmed up afterwards for a minute, but by then it was all over.

Overall, an ok experience, but I have had much better trips to Frankfurt. So, alas, I will go back, of course!

Thanks for the great forum everyone. This is the forum that has turned me on to the FKK scene.
Jaas

Peter

05-23-05, 07:40

I don't agree that German girls always have a bad reputation. That is something that remains from the Eros Center Brothels near the train station days. In FKK's a lot of the top acts are Germans. Think of Sandy at PHG, Natascha at Goldentime and a lot of others.

The Fan

05-24-05, 06:11

I am not sure about this but the German girls at the FKK in the Rhine area seemed to be friendlier. Nadia and Samy @ PHG and Samantha @ Wiago.

Kuber

05-27-05, 16:25

I will be in Frankfurt between 6.00 a.m. and 11.00 a.m. and have to catch a flight at 1.00. Will I have time to visit the Palace? What time do they open in the morning? Any other suggestions?

Thanks

Kuber

05-27-05, 21:35

Monday night at Palace, usually one of the worst nights to visit, was in fact surprisingly acceptable this time around. Most of the action is around and after midnight. Many people seem to synchronize their visits with the arrival of the 10pm buffet which is really quite appetizing. Geronima (German brunette short hair D-sized) was my first choice of the night and resulted in an ok experience. Much better were some of the flirty Russian girls who do noy shy away from kino action and know how to use their tongues to perfection. The athmosphere was quite nice though with lots of girls "hiding" in the many Palace alcoves. Will try again on "busier" nights.I have a layover from 6.00 -- 12.00 in the morning. Will it be worthwhile to visit the Palace. I have to catch a flight at 1.00! What is the opening time? How many girls are there? Do some of them sleep there?

Thanks.

Kuber

05-27-05, 21:42

I will in Frankfurt between 6.00 and 12.00 and have a flight to catch at 1.00. Is it worthwhile to visit the Palace?. What is the opening time?

The other option is to hang around in RLD or do both. Any advice?

Thanks.

Palace is easy to get to by public transport. Take the S8 train Industriehof stop.

Get off at the Industriehof cross the tracks and then a road that runs right next to and parallel to the train tracks. There's a 7 foot high, brick wall. Follow the wall by turning right (the wall on your left side) walk about 50 metres less than 1 minute and come to gap. Turn left through gap, walk straight ahead till you see a sign that says "Konigsbergerstr. 23 (Hinterhaus)" and has an arrow pointing left. Go around the building to the front door in other street. All up from downtown Frankfurt it takes aobut 10 minutes and costs a couple Euro.

Once there have fun. I did. Actually my four hour stay started brilliantly with a small Romania dark hard raver (7.5 to look at but a 10 feel for nastiness). BBBJ, DFK GFE 4play the works ... great. Small break. Pretty good round two another break, sauna, food, drink and then got a bum wrap from a kino-girl from Russia, tall nice tits but too professional, no spirit, no fun really.

I waited for the 'erotic show': what crap. The night however, was a blast overall. Millions of naked women walk, sitting, talking. IMHO there is nothing quite like sitting there watching the world go by as one after another naked women pass you, smile, show you their slits and, if you want will blow you. Can't really beat that!

It's worth a detour. For sure

Novize

05-28-05, 16:15

Palace opens at 10:00 a.m., snd I think it wouldn´t be a good idea to go there that early. Most probably you´ll have to leave before the women have washed, put on their make-up etc...

Have fun,

Novize

Ortos

05-28-05, 16:47

Novize (hey!! you got your name back!! Congrats) is spot on in suggesting you skip Palace if you have a 13.00 flight to catch. Going there at 10.00 and having to leave by 11ish, would be like watching the meat grill on the BBQ but having to leave just as it reaches readiness to eat! Don't torture yourself or waste 65Es.

Any advice? Yeah, book a later flight!

Oh, btw: As was already corrected several posts below, the S-bahn goes nowhere near Palace, but the U-bahn goes to Industriehof...

Euro Wanderer

05-28-05, 17:28

Anyone have info on what the lineup has been like the past few days. Just wondering if Cindy or Marina have been working? Also wondering if anyone knows the wherabouts of Natalie from Vilinius that has worked both Atlantis and Palace?

Hessen Bub

05-29-05, 18:06

Just wondering if Cindy or Marina have been working? Also wondering if anyone knows the wherabouts of Natalie from Vilinius that has worked both Atlantis and Palace?

Haven't seen Cindy around for a long time, same for Natalie/Michelle, have not seen her since February.

If seen Marina on Monday, she's at Palace regularly, but not that often. Have fun and just try some other girls ... ;-)

Hessen Bub

Carnal1

05-29-05, 20:47

U-4 (North from Hbf stop) to U-6 or U-7,,, then get off at Industriehof... BTW, there is some construction on the street just before you see the Palace sign,, do not detour :-)

Thank Beffen for making use of the U-Bahn and giving good instructions! I follow his directions to Alkmaar, then to PHG,, now to Palace ?? Whats next,, Long Island?

Valmont

05-29-05, 22:21

Ok guys, I'm leaving Germany for good for the USA on the 15th of June. I'm planning on one more trip to Palace on the 14th and then taking a taxi to the airport on the morning of the 15th for my flight. Does Palace have a place whre I can store my luggage, or should I do that at the airport?

Also, I'd love to meet some of you regulars then, just to thank you for all the great information you've given over the years. I'll be getting to Palace on the 14th, probably in the early evening sometime. If you'd like to meet up, reply or shoot me a PM.

Thanks again for all your help fellas!

V

Akibono

05-30-05, 06:26

Store your stuff at the airport. No sense in bothing the people and Palace and why risk the chance of getting your stuff lost or stolen.

Dedalus

05-30-05, 08:19

If you only have a medium to small bag, then you can leave it at the front desk. I have been known to do that in the past when traveling lightly.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Richardson1

05-30-05, 15:25

Hello all,

I will visit The Palace on next Tuesday in the morning (10.0 to 12.0 am) and for my first visit I need information concerning the best ladies to meet in this dreamy space.
After a look on the website of The Palace, I noticed that most of the girls present on this website have no evaluation on WSG!

So I wonder if they are really present in this FKK?

Please help me for me having a good moment in Franfort.

Stéphane

Henio

05-30-05, 23:38

Hi Rich,

Between 10 and 12 on Tuesday morning I suggest you take whatever you can get your hands on. You will not have many to choose from at that time of day.

I've seen some of the girls that are on the website, but other I do not recall. Sasha has been mentioned before. I did a session with Biene at Atlantis 2 years ago. The most memorable think of that experience was that the condom broke and we did not realize until I came, which was quite a shock to both of us (I was actually relieved by her shock as it meant she was very worried about her health).

Maike had some decent reviews (don't remember if on this board or somewhere else).

Looking at the site now, I see that Biene is actually not displayed anymore so I guess they must be updating the site every now and then

Chivaz

Dadou29

05-31-05, 12:41

Rich,
Try Natalie, little czech girl with curly blond hair.

I speak about her a little further in this section

Enjoy

Dadou29

05-31-05, 12:45

You can even find pictures of Natalie in a Viagrant's post of 05/15/05

She's a real GFE and a great f...

Enjoy

Henio

05-31-05, 23:44

Dadou,

Are you sure Natalie is still working at Palace? Did not see her the last couple of times I was there. If she is still there, I agree with your recommendation. She is a pretty good selection.

Chivaz

Richardson1

06-01-05, 10:23

Dear Chivaz,

You seem to have a great experience of this FKK, if Nathalie is not there. Which girl do recommand to me? Give me few names or descriptions.

Regards.

Richardson

Dadou29

06-01-05, 12:13

Chivaz,

Last time I saw her there was 2 months ago. I hope she still works there. Otherwise we HAVE to figger out where she works now.

Maybe u didn't see her because u went there in the evening.

I think she works from wednesday to saturday from 11 am till 8 pm.

Dadou

Ortos

06-01-05, 22:28

I had my first session with Natalie during the end of the third week of April '05. That was about 5 weeks ago. I distinclty remember the time was an hour on either side of midnight, not early. So she does seem to vary her work schedule. I've seen her many times there before I got around to sessioning with her (bad mistake on my part --should have gone to a room with her back in January when she started flirting with me, but at that time I had other interests at Palace...). Often I've seen her working up to and slightly beyond 22.00.

Mouasso

06-02-05, 13:01

Hi mate,

I will be arriving to Frankfurt within few days ,is it worth to have a look to FKK PALACE or try to see FFK35? I'm looking for good looking ladies :)

Thanks and waiting for your answer,

Cheers

I had my first session with Natalie during the end of the third week of April '05. That was about 5 weeks ago. I distinclty remember the time was an hour on either side of midnight, not early. So she does seem to vary her work schedule. I've seen her many times there before I got around to sessioning with her (bad mistake on my part --should have gone to a room with her back in January when she started flirting with me, but at that time I had other interests at Palace...). Often I've seen her working up to and slightly beyond 22.00.

Novize

06-02-05, 23:02

Ortos

06-02-05, 23:04

If I read your question right, and I admit I am slightly stoned at the moment, you are saying that in a few days you will find yourself in Frankfurt in a potentially horny condition, yes? And you are asking whether it is worthwhile to have a stop in a place like Palace to look for some nice girls to perhaps satisfy your inner desires, yeah? Well, I've meditated on the matter and have come up with this answer:

If you crave carbs, go eat some pasta! You're in Frankfurt and want sex: Head to Hausen, young man! Go get it! It is waiting for you. Better yet, got to Oase in Burgholzhausen first and have a taste there. Then, if that doesn't float your boat, hit Palace in Hausen and party late into the night. That would be my recipie for fun in Frankfurt in June.

Btw: Forget FKK35. It is dead...

Ortos

Rain City

06-04-05, 23:08

I visited Palace today, but no Natalie. I saw her a couple of weeks ago and she told me she works everday except for Sundays. I hope today was just an exception....

Mouasso

06-05-05, 08:27

Thanks mate,

Good stuff, I will follow your instruction :)

Cheers

If you are limited to Frankfurt city, Palace is the best choice.

If you have a day off - or at least 6-8 hours time in the evening - you could try FKK-World. Some of the Starlight-Ladies are working there regularly at the moment. I ran into Ania, Anita, Jola, Monika and Viktoria of SL last sunday. And there are lots of great other ladies, too.

Just have a look at the FKK World section.

Have fun,

Novize

Valiant2

06-05-05, 21:03

If you are limited to Frankfurt city, Palace is the best choice.

If you have a day off - or at least 6-8 hours time in the evening - you could try FKK-World. Some of the Starlight-Ladies are working there regularly at the moment. I ran into Ania, Anita, Jola, Monika and Viktoria of SL last sunday. And there are lots of great other ladies, too.

Just have a look at the FKK World section.

Have fun,

Novize

Novize,

I enjoy your informative reports. I will arrive around 1030 in the morning on a Wednesday later this month and will leave 12 hours later. I am planning on going to Palace for most of the time. Do you have any advice as to the best time to be there? Would there be any reason to go to the RLD before or after Palace? Or should I just stay most of the time at Palace? Should I get a hotel to refresh at first before heading to play?

Thanks

Ortos

06-05-05, 21:33

Novize,

I enjoy your informative reports. I will arrive around 1030 in the morning on a Wednesday later this month and will leave 12 hours later. I am planning on going to Palace for most of the time. Do you have any advice as to the best time to be there? Would there be any reason to go to the RLD before or after Palace? Or should I just stay most of the time at Palace? Should I get a hotel to refresh at first before heading to play?

Thanks

Why would you even think of going to the RLD, before Palace? Why walk into the McDonalds before you go dine at the Ritz? Go to Frankfurt, settle into your hotel room, chill out, get comfortable with the vibe of the city, then head to Palace. The scene at Palace is vastly different after 20.00: That's when the place really gets going. So if you arrive earlier and think the place is dead, just wait till the night before you write the place off.

Henio

06-05-05, 21:54

Or even better, skip the hotel and go straight to Palace. They serve ok lunch there. Relax, eat, have some sauna etc. You can even have a very good massage there, both regular type and Turkish bath type.

You can freshen up at Palace. They have good facilities and nice lockerrooms.

I agree with Ortos about the RLD. Only go for sex there if you like it unclean, bad smelling and ripoffs.

If I would have a 12 hour layover during the day at this time of year, I would personally head for Oase because of the outdoor facilities (specially if the weather is nice). From the airport, the trip is not that much longer than to Palace.

Chivaz

Iseeu

06-06-05, 16:56

Do exactly as Chivaz suggests. Do not pass GO! Do not waste your money and time checking in to a hotel. Use them instead for more fun in the FKK sun.
You can refresh by counting naked women women as they frolic in the sun all around you (at Oase) or as they saunter by you and tweak your woody. It's the real man's way to relax...
You just may miss (accidentally of course) your ongoing flight....

Beffen1

06-06-05, 22:39

I too always forgo my final night in the hotel and go to the club, usually FKK World, for an all nighter, and at closing time 4 AM make my way to the airport where I usually have no trouble sleeping on the flight home. I leave my bag at the Hauptbahnhof or sometimes if it is a small one they watch it for me behind the desk at FKK World.

beffen

Gino02

06-09-05, 15:31

Hey guys,

I am planning to have a vacation visiting FKK clubs June 21 thru June 25. Is there any reason (like major fairs, events etc.) that I shouldn't visit Palace, Oase, World that week and weekend? Any other advice?

Enjoyed my vacation so much last year, can't wait! Thank you guys for so much informational and fun posts! I promise to post my trip reports this time.

Jaas

06-10-05, 23:46

I have a question that hopefully some of you seasoned pros can help me with. What do you guys talk to the girls about! I've been to the Palace a handful of times and I find it hard to make small talk with the girls. I look around and everyone is sitting with a girl talking. For some reason, that doesn't happen with me. The language barrier is a problem sometimes, but even the girls that speak enough english rarely sit and talk. I know they must get tired of the same questions, ie: Where are you from? How long have you worked here? How old are you?, so I try to avoid questions like that, but what does that leave? Help me out, guys!

Thanks,

Jaas

Novize

06-11-05, 13:36

I can´t think of any reason not to visit these clubs - except for the one that it might be expensive. ;)

Have fun,

Novize

Peter

06-11-05, 14:03

Gino,

No trade fair I can see. That is usually pretty easy to tell just by going to a hotel site like hrs.de and seeing whether hotels are insanely expensive.

Jaas,

You are avoiding the questions that bring everyone into conversation. If you don't ask her where she is from, how old she is and how long she has been doing this job then you have no chance to find something to start conversation on.

Often the girls want to hear about some of the other clubs around and your experiences there. They sort of want to know whether there are other clubs where they might earn more money, or maybe they are wondering whether there are other clubs where there are a lot more customers, or whether business is slow all over the place.

If you find out where they are from maybe you know something about the area, and they like to talk about that. Maybe they want to know what life is like where you are from.

Sometimes I ask the girls what other job they do or what job they did before this. Or talk to them about their clothes or their hairdo. Just be honest and find something that makes her interesting. Talking to these girls is just like talking to any girl, you have to find something the two of you can talk about.

I mean I have had the odd girl with whom I have discussed Schopenhauer or Catholic Theology and the importance of the Rosary. Sometimes they have asked me for advice on their investments and their life insurance policies, or whether I know someone who can help them get a good deal on a kitchen for their new appartment.

topics present themselves, but the "what's your name, age, nationality, and how long have you been working here, have you worked somewhere else?" are the basis.

If you find it tough to continue a conversation with a given girl, there is a good chance the session won't be great.

Wanking

06-11-05, 19:21

I often talk to the girls about food !! usually starts when they laugh and poke my fat belly! Girls from the former communist countries almost always love their food even if they are very thin, and love to talk about it, guess cos they were all so poor and a bit hungry growing up.

Cicciolino

06-14-05, 18:13

I just have been this monday in the Palace. There was not a lot of visitors and even not the high number of girls as usual. For that reason I got enough from the buffet dinner:-) Scaned out the palace world around 30 minutes, quiet intresting just to see what is happening: There are a lot of rip-off girls trying to do their job as fast as possible, eg. went back after five to ten minutes already back from the room. After I went to the cinema and got the company of Ania. I think Ania is around 27 years old, not a model, but nice and sexy, from the eastern part of Germany. I was quiet careful after all I have seen but she had no stress at all. We start to talk, after ten minutes, she started with other things, finally after a half hour we ended up in the room. In the room we spent near to two hours with all a men want, nice GFS, kissing, BBBJ, anal etc. There was nearly no limits. All was done with a real high "professionality", better then a girlfriend could ever do it. After we went together shower. My surprise, she just asked EUR 150 (for 30 min. cinema, and two hours room). I went back to the bar, 15 minutes later she joined me again to give me a "bonus" blowjob on the sofa. She explained she loved the session herself very much... I think Ania is definitely a top girl to join, treat her well and you will get back very much!

Joyboy

06-17-05, 19:31

This was my first visit to a FKK. It was a Friday night and it was the first time that I had rented a car in Germany. Drove down to Frankfurt and got lost in the city lanes as the vehicle I had did not have a GPS. Spent more than 2/3 hours driving around and finally managed to reach someplace near Palace identifiable in the map. It was almost 2 am when I reached the place. I had to debate on going back as I had a program next day early in the morning or to still visit the FKK since I did not have sufficient time. Decided to go in anyway. Entered and was greeted at the reception. Paid the entrance fee. The lady at the counter accompanied me, explained the process showing me the locker room, the showers.

Went into the locker room and after changing in to the towel, took a shower and moved into the center area. Looked around and found a lot of girls relaxing. While I was debating on my next course, one of the girls smiled and greeted me. Her name was Sonia and she spoke good English. She said she was of Italian origin settled in Germany. She was quite tall, a bit old, well built. After preliminary discussions we decided to go into the room. She offered the menu – standard BBBJ with FS one round for half hour for 50 Euro, Full options for 150 Euro. She wanted to push the 150 Euro and marketed it well enough (knowing that I was new to the FKK) for me to accept. Had a round with her with massage followed by BBBJ and FS. Tried another round, but was not successful. I also was tired and was not up for further action. Sonia said that she works on regularly at Palace except for Saturdays and Sundays. Had a shower and then moved out and drove back from Frankfurt. Though the first venture was not very successful, I really like the concept of FKK.

Amjeck

06-26-05, 01:06

I will be arriving at the palace between 8pm and 9pm on a Sunday. Is this too late? How many girls will be there at this time? Any other suggestions for arriving late? thanks.

Henio

06-26-05, 01:35

Sundays are not that great at Palace, but still ok. You probably have some 15-20 ladies present at 8/9 pm on Sunday. Don't expect a good variety after midnight on Sunday, it will probably drop to about 10 or less, but there may still be a few good ones to pick. Sundays are pretty laid back and nice though.

Depending on your transport options, you could also head for World or Oase. You would arrive about one hour later at World if you have a car. Last Sunday I had to leave World on a Sunday at 8pm and then the main room had quite a number of girls (probably about 20) and very few punters (4-5). It was pretty sweat and I hated having to leave with all these options.

Chivaz

Valiant2

06-26-05, 19:44

I thank all of you senior members that have given freely such great advice regarding the Palace. I went there last Wednesday from 2pm until 7pm. I was pleasantly surprised regarding the variety and qualitity of the women there. Based on RTFF I had expected 6 to 8 ladies during this time and the number was actually around 20. I started out with a Romanian who was about a 7 in looks and service. I believe the session was probably about 20 minutes. She was quite a hustler and I saw her about every 15 minutes coming out of the rooms with someone.

MY next lady was a Greek and she was very nice, I had a complete half hour with her and really enjoyed it. I finished up doing my first ever session with two ladies at one time. They were both Cuban and quite attractive. One with B cups and the other D cups. It was also a shorter session than I care for, closer to 15 minutes than 30 minutes.

I also had a massage from a masseuse. The massage was not all that great.

Overall, i enjoyed the visit immensely. One problem that was quite a surprise to me was the temperature inside. Outside the temperature was around 85 degrees. Inside it was also around 85 degrees. The heat was oppressive and
would make me think twice about going there in the summertime.

Ortos

06-26-05, 21:48

Thanks for your report Valiant2.

That's too bad about the lack of A/C at Palace. I could have sworn it was air-conditioned, esp in the room last summer. I don't remember exactly, but I have the impression it was okay.

Oase recently A/C'd their new wing of rooms. It was quite appreciated in hot temps to retire to those cool rooms.

Tell us: Can you supply any names for the girls you saw. The Greek girl was called???? and the Cubans???

Thanks

Henio

06-26-05, 23:21

If memory serves me right, there is no A/C, but some oversised fans in the rooms.

Valiant2

06-27-05, 02:33

Ortos and Chivaz,

I talked with a very nice lady at the Reception Counter about the A/C and she said the A/C was on and pointed out one of the vents but said it just wasn't adequate for their needs on that day. I didn't notice any fans in the any of the rooms. As I said earlier, it really wasn't that hot outside. No more than 85 degrees.

Sorry I didn't list the names. I forget the name of the Romanian. She is an A-cup blond (frizzy long hair) about 5 feet five inches. She is very persistent and has a truly amazing tongue! The Greek's name was Anna and she said she had only been in Germanay two weeks. A sweet girl with brunette hair and a very positive attitude. The Cubans were Linda, an attractive brown haired beauty and her friend's name was Elly who was was very flashy, I loved her natural D's. Her butt was a little large.

Thanks for your report Valiant2.

That's too bad about the lack of A/C at Palace. I could have sworn it was air-conditioned, esp in the room last summer. I don't remember exactly, but I have the impression it was okay.

Oase recently A/C'd their new wing of rooms. It was quite appreciated in hot temps to retire to those cool rooms.

Tell us: Can you supply any names for the girls you saw. The Greek girl was called???? and the Cubans???

Thanks

Akibono

06-27-05, 03:06

If memory serves me right, there is no A/C, but some oversised fans in the rooms.

A girl I was with the last time at Palace said there was not AC and that it can get very hot in the summer.

Jaas

06-27-05, 21:43

I was at the Palace last tues and wed. There was a good line up of girls. I spent time with 4 different girls.

One was a Romanian named Ambra ( I believe). She had a great little tan body, spoke good english, and had very nice lips. Her service was good. I would say a 7 in service, 8 in looks.

Another was a great little girl from Berlin. I failed to catch her name, but I wish I did. It was the best session I have ever had at an FKK. She spoke little english, but we definitely clicked. It was almost unbearable in the Palace due to the heat and she suggested we get in the big whirlpool. I have never been in there, but I willingly got in to escape the heat. I'm glad we did because we played around in there for about 30 minutes. She had a nice little body, nice small boobs, and a cute face. We then went to the room and banged each other silly. It was truely memorable. Very GFE.

The next was a threesome with the popular Cindy and her Polish friend. Anyone who knows who Cindy is knows it was a good session and her hot, big haired friend was just as nice. It was towards the end of the night when I approached Cindy and she asked if I would like a threesome with her friend. This actually kind of turned me off because I knew they were just hustling me. But, how could I refuse 2 hot ladies? It was good, but not the big spectacular blow out you might think. Maybe I'll try that one again earlier on in the night when everyone is a bit more randy.

All in all, a very good experience at the Palace, except for the heat.

Oceanview

07-01-05, 01:55

Based on the recommendations of this board and the Frankfurt one, I went to the Palace on monday night late. I have to say after coming to Germany for 20 years on business I can't imagine why I never discovered this place.

I have never seen so many absolute beauties, all stark raving naked, down to the shaved pussies, walking around looking for someone to fuck them. Gents, I am not embellishing this review. I was stunned when I walked in, then in about 10 minutes a model type blonde walked up to me at the bar and stared playing with my balls, and the rest is history. Unbelievable GFE service, covered FS, uncover BBJ, and CIM for an extra 50. The room was 50 for Full Service. The girl was a hot little blonde from Romainia. I stayed until 0230 and had two other women. All great service and 8+ in the looks deptartment.

After recuperating for a couple days in the work grind, I returned to Frankfurt tonight, thursday, and repeated the fantasy-turned-reality again. words cannot describe the variety of women of exquisite beauty, GFE service. Did another three-bagger, and headed home tonight at 0200.

Wanted to give this review for all my fellow mongers out there. I appreciate the tips, and can only offer my experience here. Thanks to all.

One question: is there any place like this in Munich?

Ocean (in recuperation for the next week)

Toscana

07-01-05, 08:02

Glad it has the same effect on you too. :-)

Munich: try FKK Colosseum in Augsburg. I wrote a review a few weeks ago on the Other FKK Clubs thread.

Euro100

07-01-05, 16:47

I went to the Palace on monday night late. I have to say after coming to Germany for 20 years on business I can't imagine why I never discovered this place.

Ocean,

Palace has only been opne in this form for about a year. So don't beat yourself up over the last 19 years before. Before Palace opened, however, there was Suddfass. This place has been around for a long time, but is not quite as good and permissive as an FKK. I would say that the whole FKK paradise that we have now started with (the now shut down) Atlantis and Oase in Burgholzhausen. Then FKK World opened 2 year ago. And now Palace completes the amazing triangle of Oase/FKKW/Palace that provides the best conditions for sex on the globe.

One can only hopw that these places will stay the way they are for a long time.

euro

Death Warrior

07-06-05, 20:41

Another trip to Palace on a Thursday night, which is change for me as I've usually only been there on a Monday evening. I had planned to go the night before as Palace was having a bunny girl party however work commitments prevented me from making the visit on the Wednesday. Was staying at the Novotel Frankfurt City West, which at €113 per night including breakfast, I certainly do not recommend. The hotel is having some repair work done and as a result the air conditioning was not working. This was not good, considering how hot it was over the week in Frankfurt. Cost of taxi from the hotel to Palace was €8.

Arrived at about 9:30pm, and it was pretty quiet. After the shower, headed straight to the main bar area. Sat down next to Ambra who was smiling at me. She is blonde, about 5ft 5in small tits and is Romanian. One of her tits had a mark across the nipple, which at first I thought was a bad implant job. However she explained that while trying to straighten out her hair using a heated tong, it slipped and hence the mark ! Her English is reasonable, enough so that she can converse and understand your needs. After finishing the drink, asked her to join me on one of the couches. As recommended by others and from my own experience, it’s worth making out with them first a little to assess the potential level of service you will get in the room. She cuddled, kissed and stroked the old fellow, so it was off to the room. First asked what type of service and I asked what’s on offer. She was trying for the €100 including CIM, but I just opted for the standard 30 min at €50. Excellent DFK and BBBJ with plenty of ball licking and around the groin area. Bit of DATY, was clean and fresh however this was mainly to lubricate her properly. Main event started with cowgirl and then missionary with tongues interlocked throughout. After the explosion, she cleaned me up and then I gave her a massage. Great service and definitely recommended.

There was still some food left after the 10pm buffet, so had some of that and relaxed on the swinging couch just girl watching. Moved over to the couches near the stage and after about 15-20 mins I was approached by Deborah. Sat next to me and cuddled up and starting kissing. Her English was excellent and I could not work out where she was from. She told me she is from Romania, has dark brunette hair, about 5ft 4in with small tits. As the music played she sat on top of me and gyrated away. This was certainly having an effect on me, so off we went to the rooms. Had to wait about 10mins, so made out some more while we waited. Room 11 became free and she was not happy with this. Asked me to have a look at room and if I was happy it would be ok for her. Checked out the room, which seemed fine to me, so off we went. In the room more DFK as we hit the bed. Before we started, she showed me her mobile phone and said look. I was confused at first, but then noticed the time. She said that she had some disagreements with some guys about the time, so now sets this straight before starting. Her service I can only describe as EXCELLENT. Plenty of DFK with BBBJ, deep throat and copious ball licking. Sex was several positions and she gives 110%. Guys this is one not to miss and if she is there next time I'm at Palace, she will be the first on the list.

Relaxed more and again just watched the action. Was approached by a few girls, but nothing took my fancy and more importantly needed to recover before the next adventure...which was Juliana from Cuba. Again she approached and sat on top of me and started some light kissing. Spoke enough English to communicate with plenty of Spanish in between ( from her only that is). I was getting a hard on as we made out on the couches, so off we went. The main rooms were all full, so we then tried the rooms near the kino. They were also full, so we waited and I continued to feel her up while waiting. Rooms were still full, so she then said lets try the rooms near the whirlpool. They are the rooms with just curtains near the main bar area. Its a bit weird in these rooms, as you hear everyone in the bar area and some people look through the gaps in the curtain as you doing the deed with the girl ! She started off with some DFK and then BBBJ, but quickly pulled out a condom. I told her slow down, as she blabbered in Spanish. Applied condom and continued the blow job. First was her on top, then reverse cowgirl, missionary, spoon and then to finish was doggy. Took ages to come and gave her a damn good workout. I was a bit disappointed with her as Ambra and Deborah provided a GFE, but Juliana seemed more like get them in and out as quick as possible, nevertheless a good fuck, but not a repeat.

Left at 1am and slept like a baby that night.

Jaas

07-11-05, 18:43

Hey Death Warrior,

Did Deborah and Ambra hang out a lot? When I was there, I noticed Ambra hanging out with another Romanian that was petite and dark haired. I didn't have the mojo left to try the brunette and was wondering if you were talking about the same one?

Thanks,

Jaas

Death Warrior

07-11-05, 19:22

Hi Jaas,

They did indeed hang around together near the bar area.

Eeyore

07-14-05, 16:44

fkks are truly a wonder. as long as i have been in the hobby and as many times as i have been in germany, i have never had the opportunity to find my way into an fkk. that is until a recent trip with a one day layover in frankfurt. i decided to check into the ibis west frankfurt and stroll over to the palace to see what all the fuss was about. i was unprepared, but was still able to get it together. the entry fee was €65. i had dollars, there was no atm on site. i was told that they would take dollars, and it turned out to be 70¢ on the dollar. not the best rate, but i had been burned worse.

anastacia was a long-legged latvian with horn-rimmed glasses, black garter, and heels. we went into the cine and proceeded to make out in the front of the room. we began with a long daty session on her back that resulted in a squealing, shivering o. i mounted her mish and slowly rotated her legs over my head until she was almost to doggie. then i poured my all into her and rested on top with the sweat streaming off. someone in the back of the room clapped. she definitely earned her €50.

nina was a blonde russian girl with central asian features. it was obvious from her smell and taste that i was not her first customer. she was too sore to do anything other than french, and i was interested in more. i still paid her €50, even though we were together less than ten minutes and did not finish. i watched another couple locked in a vigorous doggie style and longed for a partner who would provide me the same.

i did not wait that long. yulia was also russian, very lovely, with fine brown hair down to her round ass and full perfect breasts. we went into the cine and this time went to the back. another long daty (i had a hard time talking after that) from behind. i admired her ass then mounted her standing doggie style, starting slowly, building up speed, and then pushed her to her knees, bouncing ass high in the air, my knees bent in a crouch. i lean over her, hold her breasts and feel that ass against my belly. she then made me a very satisfied customer for €50.

while leaving, i was asked if everything was ok. i said generally, yes, or ‘eth’ but mentioned the problem with nina. the manager, lily went back into the room. they did take it seriously enough to go back in, but nina was nowhere to be found. i returned the next day at 10 am, and was told that there was nothing that could be done about the situation.

the one disappointment was quickly overcome. in spite of the fees and and prices, and the one disappointing experience, i have to say that i would gladly return to the palace , better prepared and at hopefully with a more favorable rate of exchange.

Peter

07-14-05, 20:51

Eeyore,

don't mean to be rude, but you picked your name right, you are a *******! I mean that in only the nicest way.

How can you come to germany over and over and never sample an FKK. Your schedule can never be that tight.

and when you come, why don't you have some €'s. You must have passed at least one ATM after the airport. Otherwise you could have paid with your Credit Card, and it would have been a 10% service charge, but given the exhange rate now is about 80cents on a Dollar, that plus the 10% comes out to the same thing.

The other thing you did wrong is you should have taken Nina straight to management when she refused sex. sex and BBBJ are standard service, and if she is refusing one for whatever reason, she has to let the customer know that before they go to the room.

Otherwise I hope you enjoy your next visits more, and are a little better prepared.

Eeyore

07-15-05, 06:19

Peter--
I don't consider your comments rude at all. You are right on point.

Yes, I am a *******. It's obvious and I can't deny it.

Yes, I got burned on the exchange.
Bad planning on my part, no question.
The specifics of my itinerary I'd prefer not to share, other than to say that I was on a layover between one non-€ country to another non-€ country. My atm card didn't work, ok? Also, out of concerns for privacy, I prefer to keep my credit card out of it. K5 in Prague was much better for dealing with exchange rates & payment plans (despite the hoots from my report then as well), but the Palace had advantages that outweighed K5.

Yes, I will know better next time.
Thanks for the tip on a future situation I hope to avoid, but other readers might keep in mind.

Looking forward to my next visit.

Ortos

07-15-05, 20:32

Eeyore,

I like your style of honesty, self-effacing views if possible. I wish more of us could achieve this lofty goal. I attempt it, and sometimes succeed, sometimes not.

I must say, though, in all honest, when I read your report below, I thought to myself: Only a complete idiot would overnight in Frankfurt, fully cogniscent of the fkk possiblilities awaiting him that night, but fail to think ahead and carry sufficient quantities of Euro cash in order to avail himself fully of the true value-for-money opporntunities that await one inside the doors of a club like Palace. I was thinking: "Come on man! What are you smoking? Get me some!"

But I don't understand how your "ATM Card wasn't working?" There must be ump-teen ways to acquire Euro cash at reasonalble exchange rates 24hrs a day! The banks in Hbf close probably 21.00ish. At Frankfurt Flughaven, accessible from Hbf 24hrs a day via 3.10 S-bahn, there are banks with "decent" exchange rates. So what gives? He must have flown into Frankurt or arrived by train. Why did he not avail himself of the exchange facilities to gain proper buying power at Palace? Sorry, I also do not want to be rude. (I really would be interested to learn exactly which strain you are smoking, though? PM me????)

You do raise an interesting about comparing FKKs in Germany to K5 in Prague. Or rather pointing out that there is really no comparison between the two: FKKs win hands down!

Thanks for your report...

Ortos

Eeyore

07-16-05, 03:40

Dear Ortos--

Thank you for the compliment.

To explain, try to put yourself in my situation.

1) I've never seen the almighty Yankee $ humbled so much in all my years of international work. Now is not the time and WSG is not the place for a harangue on the true idiots who have so screwed up USA fiscal & monetary policy.

2) My ATM card was denied at 3 machines, including at the Flughafen & Hbf. How many more times did I need to beat my head against that wall? The problem is cleared up now, at the time I had no idea what was going on.

3) My flight came in on a Saturday night, and I needed to leave Sunday morning. While there are places to make change 24/7 in Frankfurt, they are not on every corner, and I needed to make the most of my time. I figured I would check into my room, exchange $ for € at the hotel (not much better than the Palace) and make my way to the Palace.

4) The problem, ultimately, was not so much a question of what I was smoking as it was a simple matter of letting the little head do all the thinking. I was inside an FKK for the first time in my life, surrounded by incredible beauty and filled with a growing lust. What am I going to do?

Do I say, "Um, gee, that exchange rate is really bad. Let me hire a cab and go into town for a few hours while I find a place that will give me a better rate of exchange."?

Do I say, "Do you know who I am? Give me a better exchange rate or I will see that this place is erased from the map."?

Or do I say, "Here's my money. Let me at 'em!"?

As you might imagine, a fool and his money are soon parted. I'm not crying over my experience, I had all the buying power I needed & enough left over to get out of town. There's more where that came from. Agree with you--FKK Palace wins hands down. The point of the report is for people to make sure that they have enough of the proper currency. Believe me, I'm not leaving home again without a good sized stash of €s.

Euro100

07-16-05, 20:14

Well, it can happen. ON my last trip to Europe my credit card was also rejected. For no good reason, it turns out. My credit card compnay had only noticed that I suddenly wanted to charge in Germany, whereas during the previous months only charges in the US had been incurred. So they simply put a hold on the account. It took me a couple of days to clear it all up.

But really, Eeyore did not spend that much money. Even if he has exchange his dollars at two for one euro, it would still have been a bargain. FKKs are tremendous value for the money. All the food and drink you want for 65 euro, with all of the wellness stuff you can handle, and with a never-ending parade of naked and willing women to feast your eyes on. ... and other body parts, too, if you want, all for 50 euro a pop. Whoooooooooooooo

Eeyore, forget the exchange rate and focus on the essentials. Welcome to the FKK community. I predict you'll never go back to the RLD or any other option.

euro

Eeyore

07-17-05, 02:11

Absolutely agree with you Euro100. The experience was well worth it, and next time will be even better. Appreciate the welcome.

Funny Kunna

07-17-05, 05:38

I am going to Germany. It is to clear a doubt. Hope you wont mind. I recently heard of an Asian and black brotha thrown out a German FKK. Is there any racial descrimination. I am Asian.

Beffen1

07-17-05, 17:45

Those credit cards can be fussy in Europe. My debit card works in Germany and Holland without fail- and they just instituted a 500 dollar a day limit so its great for mongering. It works swell on the ATM in FKK World, very handy indeed.

My no Hassles no fee credit card works all the time in Holland but I have never gotten it to work in Germany, even after notifying the company of the dates I will be travelling in advance and them giving me assurances. I even called once from Germany and again they assured me and again it wouldn't work. Thank heaven for the debit card.

Beffen

Peter

07-17-05, 19:17

eeyore,

and don't limit yourseklf only to palace. there are a lot of other fkk's out there which are just as good or better, dpeending on the day and time you go.

Euro100

07-17-05, 22:03

Funny Kunna,

At the big clubs in and around Frankfurt (Palace, Oase, FKKW) race is definitely not an issue. Guys of all skin colors are let in and can be seen enjoying themselves. Same for girls. I don't doubt that these two guys you mentioned may have been thrown out, but I do doubt that it was because of their race.

Insied the FKKs, some girls definitely do have racial preferences when it comes to picking their partners. But then again, so do you and I. In the end, for most of the girls 50 euro is 50 euro, no matter who gives it to them.

euro

Peter

07-17-05, 22:48

Kunna,

Travelling alone as an asian you will get inot any club you want. Racial discrimination usually only is targetted at larger groups from a nationality. If 5 russians or turks or greeks or whatever show up at the door together some clubs will turn down entry, saying they can get unruly. It is not so much the racial thing, as the group thing.

There are girls who will not go with nationalities. My Indian friends have troubles finding girls sometimes, but at the end of the day, most are in it for the money.

If they got thrown out of a club, they must have been acting like asses. If they didn't get let in at all it might actually be racial. The other thing is their own fault.

CBGBConnisur

07-18-05, 03:23

Turks for sure will get turned away from a club if the management doesn't like them. I doubt the same will go for blonde hair blue eyed Russians, the Russians can call the fatman if they run into a problem with the management.

Peter

07-18-05, 07:57

I know a lot of clubs that have turned away groups of russians. Even if they are members of the mob, those people know when to cause trouble, and when not too. Not getting let into a brothel as a group is not a reason to do something to have people take notice of them.

Fkk Lover

07-18-05, 08:11

I'll echo what Peter said. If you go by yourself or just with 1 or 2 friends, I don't see a problem.

There is 1 thing that works in our favor (or maybe not), there's that stereotype that we're rich and we're generous with our money. So many of them might think that they can load up on all the 'extras' or maybe get a big tip. The good thing is that that might earn you some extra attention at the front end but maybe get a dirty look if you only hand her a 50 at the back end.

I got a couple of funny stories about girls' preferences. I fancied a German girl when I was at Goldentime and I flagged her over for a chat. She was very chilly with the initial conversation even though she spoke very good English. I fought through the bad vibes and decided to take her to the room anyways 'cos she was pretty hot. After a very good sweaty 90 minute 2 pop session, we were laying there having a post coital smoke. She actually apologized for her initial cold attitude because she usually didn't much care for asians guys because in all her previous experiences they were very boring, had small willies and hence she couldn't enjoy herself, and last (this is the funniest one) all of them had very bushy pubes that made it unpleasant for her to do a BJ! Which she quickly appended with a compliment that I suffered none of those 3, er... shortcomings.

One other time when I bumped into a girl at the Palace I'd previously had sessions with at Oase and Sylt in Nuremberg. East German girl. My memory had been hazy as to my previous encounters with her... I think we just pretty much went to the room both times and not much talking. But I guess that by the time we met at Palace she starts talking with me like we were long lost old friends and let me tell ya. She was SERIOUSLY racist going on and on and on about Jews, Turks, Arabs, blacks, etc. and the trouble they cause locally, worldwide, you name it! Didn't seem to have much of an opinion on Asians but I suspect it was only because she was talking to me. But I wonder what caused her to spill all those beans? Never had another session with her despite numerous other visits there. Maybe it had something to do with her opinions, but mostly because she'd since packed some serious weight. Either way it's always best to view these situations with curiosity rather than get offended by them. No reason to ruin a perfectly nice day at an FKK, right?

Anyways, shave your nads, don't act like a stereotypical Asian, go, treat the girls well and have a good time!

Peter

07-18-05, 19:59

FKK,

You are right. The difference with Goldentime, PHG ad the clubs around Düsseldorf is that the asians they normally get there are the Japanese that live in Düsseldorf. There are soemthing like 30,000 japanese in that town, making it the largest population outside of Japan or soemthing like that. They do have the bushy pubes (not sure about the short willies, but many women claim that - but then again germans have huge schlongs) and might be boring in the room, and might be big spenders.

So american Asians are generally a little different.

So shave the nads, trim the pubes, and use a penis pump to make your willy big.

And if you ever want to go to a place with the most racist prostitution in the world, try Asia. In Japan they won't let any foreigners anywhere near brothels, because all foreigners have aids. They will not even let black people or Indians into any discotheque.

In Hong Kong you pay different prices depending on the nationality of the girl (the lighter the nationality the more you pay - white russians cost double a local HK girl and more than 3 times a Thai or Malay girl - they don't even offer Indians - because they claim that they smell funny and have so much hair), and when you order a girl they say extra "for a foreigner" on the phone, and most girls turn away even white foreigners. Indians and Blacks will never find a partner (I saw one who was turned away by 15 girls in a row).

Compared to that the minor racism you might get by a girl in a FKK is minimal. Remember that the service expectation of the girl is to kiss the customer and give him a BBBJ. I am not racist, but there are nationalities where I would be willing to do that to less than 1% of the population, and there are nationalities where I just think their experience with hygiene is just closer to my expectation.

CBGBConnisur

07-18-05, 21:04

FKK, if you're Asian and all you got from an Ossi are racist remarks about other groups, consider yourself lucky. If you have ever been to East Germany, there are thousands of Neo-Nazi skinheads there. I actually was traveling around Magdeburg a few years ago, and a saw a HUGE demonstration of skinheads. There is a lot of unemployment in the East German states, I have heard of rates has as high as 30 percent. If you're not white, you won't want to hang around East Germany. West Germans are a different story, in comparison to the East the economic situation is better(a lot of unemployed people in the West too), they tend to travel a lot, especially to developing countries, so they can be somewhat more pc. West Germans remind me of people I meet in California and the West Coast in terms of their sociopolitical attitudes, more liberal than people from the Northeast US, which aren't really liberal in my experience.

The pattern I have seen in Europe, is that the further East you travel, the more conservative the people become towards "outsiders". Russia, is one of the most racist places you can visit, I have known a lot of Russian people who openly make nasty comments about blacks, Asians, Arabs, and Jews. Many will even admit that if you are a member of any of these ethnic groups you can expect some nasty treatment from the locals.

As far as Asians I did notice quite a few around Bonn, but I believed they were Vietnamese. The Japanese usually carry themselves in an aristocratic flair, living in the Asia Pacific region for five years, its easy for me to discern different Asians from their behavior and appearance.

Peter's comments about racism in Japan and HK are spot on, they don't like foreigners there.

Fkk Lover

07-19-05, 08:35

peter,

fyi the largest concentration of japanese living outside japan is sao paulo brazil. dusseldorf has the largest concentration in europe. maybe you can find me a good sushi bar there on my next visit.

no question the level of bigotry in asia is much higher than any country in western europe with perhaps a few exceptions. it wasn't exactly my intent to debate you on who is more racist, since on that point you're pretty much preaching to the choir. i thought i'd just chime in with a couple of interesting encounters i had and give funny kunna a couple of tips in the process.

frankly while cbgb's rep001tered thoughts on world socio-political-economic trends and interracial relationships might be entertaining to read, i'd rather be encouraging people to trim their bush to receive better oral service. ;)

fl

Euro100

07-20-05, 05:03

Well, let me chime in here. ;)

Most men do not like to give DATY when we feel like we are tongue-lashing an afro-do. That's why almost all providers shave their pubic areas. In my opinion there is nothing more enjoyable then giving a clean shaven pussy the tongue-shlocking treatment. Sucking down hairs makes me gag. No good. :(

Sooooo ... let's extend the same courtesy to the girls. And remove at least part of the wilderness that can grow around our little decision makers. Makes for a much better BBBJ! :)

Word of caution, though! From an infectious desease standpoint the following is not advisable: shave and right away go to have sex with a provider. The act of shaving the pubic areas creates very small cuts all over the skin in this part of the body. And this makes for much greater exposure and transmission probability of STDs.

So if you shave, I recommend that you do it a couple of days before heading for the club.

euro

Jasss

07-22-05, 22:34

Well I love diving too. Can anyone give me info on any latinas in the Palace?

Brasilian, Colombian etc.

Names and details please.

Cheers

Hessen Bub

07-24-05, 10:17

There are some latinas:

Maria, DomRep, former Atlantis-Girl. Professional but good.
Kati, DomRep, also former Atlantis-Girl. Professional but good, on holiday.
Jennifer, DomRep, also former Atlantis-Girl. Good session.
Alice, DomRep, young, good, has her own mind, on holiday.
Lisa, Cuba, also former Atlantis-Girl. Good session.
Amy, DomRep, blonde but dark skin. Soft, average.

Have fun.

Hessen Bub

Tawan

07-27-05, 04:16

Hessen Bub,

Thanks for the update on Palace's impressive Latina contingent. Hard to find a group with higher service levels on average, wouldn't you agree?

Earlier this year I was happily surprised to meet Laura from Dom. Republic (formerly Atlantis, Oase) at Palace. Any sign of her lately? I'll be back in the area next week and would love to know. She mentioned a possible stint at a new or relatively new place in Munich whose name I forget.

Gracias,

T

The French

07-27-05, 23:38

Will be in fkft friday night. what is the best line up at the moment? OASE or Palace? How does it compare to normal period (this one being holydays for most of Europeans and Germans in particular)

Tyweed

07-28-05, 18:13

Ahhh, racist issue at FKKs.

Hey, I have Japanese blood and got Asian looks (I live in California), but never felt I was discrimated by any girls at FKKs (only 5 visits). Rather, they often mentioned they actually like Japanese businessmen since they are usually nice and not pushy (and they pay well!). Not sure about pubic hair, small dick, but I often heard from some others that many do not like hairly dudes.

As for some other races, everyone has opinions, but Europe are way less PC, compared to the US. Some girls straight-forwardly say that they don't like Arabs and Turks, since they often treat women like shit, are very pushy or try to do more and pay less. I would not call this racism, since they also have choices, like we, clients, do. In the end, this is their work, not hobby (unlike for us.). As far as you treat them nice with smile and pay what you are supposed to pay, it should be OK.

I am a foreignern and an Aisan there, so I expect some difficulties, but so far so good. So, I say Go there and just enjoy the scene!

As far as racism in Japan go, they actaully do like foreigners!! Yeah, of course, some massage places say no to foreigners (including Chinese), but this is because some foreigners have behaved very very badly (or simply the ladies do speak only japanese). I have seem some gaijin (what they call foreigners) acting like they owned the country and acting like a real dumb ass...If I were the manager, of course I refuse their entry, even in the US (or my bouncer would) .

Oh, this is off topic, but the biggest concentration of Japanese in Euro is actually London. Japanses usually do not stick around (they go back to Japan once their business is done, unlike the others).

Cheers,

Ty

Toscana

07-29-05, 08:43

Now this is really interesting, punter-related stuff. We're waiting for your words of wisdom, CBGB. Come on now, fella, don't disappoint.

Dadou29

08-08-05, 12:05

Palace on friday evening

Very quiet. 20 girls maybe 25. No Cindy, no Natalie. Almost boring.

15 bald german guys with big tatoos came and were served vodka : maybe the owner's friends ???

Very weird atmosphere.

I had 2 sessions : The first one with Inga, pretty lituanian blonde. Very good BBBJ in the kino then in the room to finish with a CIM.

Second session with a little dominican girl. Good BBBJ also in the kino then she sat on me without me asking for anything and she did a very energic rodeo. I must say that it was very exciting to do that in the kino in front of everybody.

I went to bed at 4am at the Ibis hotel nextdoor (56 euros).

I had a good time but not as good as at Oase the next day. Oase was full of chicks : 40 to 50 !!! I think it's the best club.

Viagrant

08-09-05, 03:38

CBGBConnisur

08-09-05, 15:50

I don't think most FKK girls are racist, there have been issues on occasion with large groups of Turks and Arabs(I have seen these guys pick fights with people in the hauptbahnhofs), who are seen as aggressive. Yes, Europeans aren't very pc, whatever the hell that is anyhow. As long as you don't look like a bum or a hoodlum, you should not be denied entry.

You have to be kidding me about Japan, they are racist as hell, the average Japanese person I met is more xenophobic than an East German skinhead. The women there are ugly, the country is expensive, its not an enjoyable place. A lot of Japanese whine about Australians as being racist, this is hardly the case(you will find a few Rednecks in rural locales), I know a lot of people of non-European ancestry who live in Australia and very few find Australia to be an intolerant or racist society.

Dedalus

08-09-05, 22:46

Johnny Darko

08-10-05, 18:04

FKK Palace

Well after a six days sojourn in Brazil (see rio thread fro more info) I had a one overnight stay in Frankfurt. I was confused as which FKK I should go to but my friend Toscana was, as usual, very helpful in his pm. So off to FKK Palace. I set as stipulated in the directions on this board and for 3.40E I found myself at Industriehof. I saw the seven foot wall to my right and crossed the railway tracks. I misunderstood the direction and walked all along the wall. But no! In the middle of the wall there is a three foot space and it is from here that you should walk. Walk for three minutes or less come to a roundabout, continue straight and after 30 seconds take the first turn left. FKK is infront of you. There are some road works a present but this should be a problem. I entered and when I told them that it was my first time the receptionist told me the rules which are by now well-known. Then another staff member (female) led me to the showers. It was 18.00 on a Friday. As soon as I came out of the showers with a towel around my waist I was gobsmacked. The place is truly up-standard. The decorations are out of this world. I went to the bar munching an apple from the bountiful fruit trays. There were few girls at that time. I ordred a coke and pinched myself to make sure that I was not dreaming for a sipped my coke naked ladies with towels in their hands began arriving one by one and sitting around. My plan was to have two shots but socialise as much as possible for the fun of it. After talking to handful I met Daniela a fake blond who is from Sicily but speaks German very fluently. I was going to take her into a room but her face was not appealing next to others. I wanted to contact a great looking blond with gravity defying boobs. She wore sone cream-coloured chifon around her ass. Never got to speak to her as she was very very popular. Next I set my eyes on a blond Polish lass whose name escapes me. She was 9 and a half in my books but 25 seconds in the conversation she asked whether I wanted a threesome with her friend who is also blond. A vulture I said to myself and excused myself. I really do not know how time went by but it was 20.00 when I met Katherina (Maria Katherina?) from Russia with highlighted blond hair whose red lipstick reminded me of Gwen Stefani. In fact her face was nothing out of this world but she was nice and loving. We kissed and invited her to go to a room. Of course she obliged but all rooms were full. At this point I asked her if it was ok for her of we did in the porn film room (kino?). She smiled and said 'no problem'. We went to the porn film room, took a seat at the back, and a very good bbj commenced. I enjoyed looking at her silhoutte and behind her the porn film. As I was going to come I motioned her to put the condon on and sit on me. To my surprise the condom was on already. Am I getting too old for this? But I did not complain because I was enjoying myself. I came after a few thrusts. Despite the condom trick I would say that I enjoyed myself tremendously and she was very nice and goo eye contact througout. It was my first FKK experience was I may be biased. Afterwards, I settled on the couch drinking coke and I was going to talk to another blond when a girl from the Domincan Republic approached me. I do not remember her name. I told her that I was looking for a blond after six days in Brazil. She replied, very confidently, that she was not from Brazil and that she will give me sex like no other. I flirted back and found that I like her charm and attitude. She was very direct but in a flirty way. So off with her. On the bad side all eye contact was lost once we entered the tent next to the whirpool but I have to say that she gave me a good run for my money. So, very professional but I must say that she does her job well.

So that was it. One thing which struck me is the atmosphere and that for 65 Euros entry you can drink as much as you want and eat a very generous buffet which was good. This is cheap is you sat more than five hours and dirt cheap if you stay all day and night. From my limited experience this FKK venture was the best mongering experience of my life. Hopefully I will have the opportunity to return