FKK Palace - Frankfurt [Archive] - Page 20

Vito Corleone

12-02-09, 09:26

Went to Palace last Monday for the first time in about 9 months.

It really has gone majorly downhill.

The mood was bad, the attitude's were bad.

So a few more offers, but nothing really did it for me. There were a couple of stunners, but they almost looked like they were there because they had to B.

So eventually thought, well I can't go home with nothing (well not after a €75 entry fee) so bumped into a girl from Budapest (again don't remember names of average sessions).

She had dark long wavey hair, quite petite and thin, but nice little arse.

Walking into the room she quickly set up, and got on all fours in front of me giving me a great view of her perky little arse.

So I quickly got to work with my tongue.

She then starting giving me some great BBBJ while she gave me a great view of herself fingering her arse.

At this point I thought this was going to be a great one. But thats when it turned

Then she asks, so what do you want to do now? I said I wanted to have a bit more of a lick, she replies "we already did that", I'm thinking what?

Then the hardsell of Anal, CIM etc starts, I'm thinking here we go.

So I said I wasnt interested and she quickly took out a condom, put it on, and started riding me, making it clear she had no interest at all after my refusal.

So tried to stretch it out a bit, changed position a couple of times and finished. Didn't take too long since it was the first of the day.

I have to agree, Palace has gone down hill. I still have a couple of regulars, but the mood & attitudes were really bad. Much more than the norm.

Sounds like you sessioned with Alice. She does have a great ass.

Sebastiane

12-02-09, 22:12

I decided to go to palace last Saturday after a month or so off. I got there at around 7 or 8 and noticed a lot of guys sitting around and not so many girls. So I ate some food in the new restaurant and chatted to a couple of blonde Polish chicks (good looking) who told me they were sisters. Don't know if I buy that though.

I then went to the main area and sat on the sofas watching and waiting to see if any girl really took my fancy. I eventually saw a dark haired, slightly tanned, tall, Romanian girl whom I chatted to and we went into a room for a decent session but I was having one of those days where it takes me literally an hour or so to come and so after 30 mins we called it quits. The girl was friendly but once in the room she told me she couldn't do kissing as shed just had her dental work done and she would only do a covered BJ. That kind of killed it for me but I was horny and she was honest and polite and sounded apologetic so I thought might as well fuck for 30 mins. Paid her 50 (cannot recall her name!) and went in search of another girl.

Went to the relaxing room to read a bit. Saw this slim, gothic looking chick there, short spiky black hair, very slender, very lithe, wearing just a tie, and felt an animal attraction. She asked me what I was reading. I said the girl with the dragon tattoo by stieg larsson. (those who know the book: this girl (Luna from Romania) reminded me a lot of Salander Lisbeth, the character from the book which is probably another reason I went with her!) I asked her before if I could do DFK and pussy eating she said yes! Asked me if I wanted to have a 3some with her and her friend. I said no, just you! Went to a room and she bent over on the bed. I began to tongue her arsehole as she bent over. What an ass! Tongue-fucked her hole for a while then she told me to lie down.

It was a really great session and we did all I like. Many positions, 69, analingus, I fucked her really hard for most of the 30 minutes actually and finally came in the missionary. We were both drenched in sweat. I came buckets. Cuddled for a bit afterwards and laughed and joked. She said for that much effort she deserved a 100 and I agreed!

I was really exhausted and my legs were rubbery.

Paid luna 100. A definite find.

Went back to observing mode. Saw this very light blonde called Eva going from man to man and though she was very attractive it kind of put me off a bit.

After about an hour saw this tall dark haired girl (anita?.cannot recall now!) with an amazing ass and long legs (I think she was from bulgaria) and I had to have her though I only had 50 euros of my preplanned budget left. So I called her over and told her I was really tired but she had such an amazing ass I had to go with her. Could she just blow me for the 30 mins. She agreed.

I didn't come but it was nice just to lie there with a beautiful girl sucking my dick as I ate her pussy and ass in 69.

50 euros.

I paid her and then showered and left soon afterwards.

Sebastiane

12-02-09, 22:18

I've remembered.

The name of the tall tanned Romanian girl with dark hair and dental issues was Julia.

Hessen Bub

12-04-09, 18:46

Dark Bond and Hessen Bub,

I always thought it was €50 for each girl for the half a hour (€100) and then if there is lesbian show then that is another €50 to each girl (€100) so the half hour session becomes €200 with €100 to each girl.

Fuck the lesbian show! That's the oldest rip off in FKK clubs, has been around for years and years. Can't count how many times I've seen big eyes when guys had to pay 200 EUR/h. I always tell the girls it is 50 EUR each, I don't care if they wanna kiss or lick each other, they can, but I won't pay for it. Always worked, in Palace, Oase, World.

HB

Eros74

12-04-09, 23:08

Fuck the lesbian show! That's the oldest rip off in FKK clubs, has been around for years and years...

Great said Hessen Bub !!!

The oldest rip off in all the world, I'd say....and I guess it will around forever as it is more or less the dream of every man but...it can end totally different....

I got 2 escort in Rio in september and I wanted to fullfill this "dream", I ended to pay, almost overcharged just....to see they lick and kiss just for couple of minutes or less, totally fake with no passion at all, I regreted just a while after I paid....Was I just unlucky ?

I do not think so and I will never pay again, I guess the best lesbian show you can get, is when you have a "girlfriend", a regular girl and you are gonna in disco or clubs to search for another one together her, not when you pay, cause often they neither like each other so figure out how fake and sad can be the "show"..... IMHO.

Rwaters

12-05-09, 23:11

Hi. I will be in Frankfurt for 3 days at beginning of February. It will be my first time at FKKland. I have read the forums. Would appreciate some assistance with my logistics and plans. I hope to visit Palace and Oase. Considering World.

For Hotel lodging, I am considering the Savoy or Marriott in downtown Frankfurt. Does this make sense? Would appreciate input on Hotel arrangements.

I am flying in to Frankfurt on a Friday morning. I am thinking of making my first outing on Friday to Palace. Saturday to Oase. Sunday. Not sure yet.

I will use public transport. There are clear directions on the forum to get to Palace and Oase.

Not sure about my third day. Is World a must see? Is it worth the travel time or am I just better going back to Palace or Oase (whichever I like better).

Am I missing anything?

Tx

Vito Corleone

12-06-09, 10:21

Hi. I will be in Frankfurt for 3 days at beginning of February. It will be my first time at FKKland. I have read the forums. Would appreciate some assistance with my logistics and plans. I hope to visit Palace and Oase. Considering World.

Not sure about my third day. Is World a must see? Is it worth the travel time or am I just better going back to Palace or Oase (whichever I like better).

Am I missing anything?

Tx
World & Palace Generally have good lineups on Fri & Sat, but really dead on Sun. Oase usually has the best Sun lineup.

Basketcase

12-06-09, 11:10

World & Palace Generally have good lineups on Fri & Sat, but really dead on Sun. Oase usually has the best Sun lineup.
Rwaters,

I echo Vito Corleone's advice. If you are doing a weekend tour of FKK clubs try and forget the convenience of Palace and head to Oase if you value the depth of line up.

ON a three day run the usual venue visit if you have a self drive motor vehicle is:

Day 1 Friday, Golden Time in NRW for its fantastic line up and to avoid the clans of Polar Bears that come on Saturday and Sunday.

Day 2 Saturday, World, as Saturday is one if its better days, it has a DJ and there is places for you to rest after the drive back from Golden Time in NRW.

Day 3 Sunday, Oase, as even on a Sunday, Oase has an extensive line up of hotties. Palace and World have less extensive line ups on Sundays.

Given you are on public transport, and depending on what day you arrive on Friday is to give World a go as well so that you try all three Hessen big 3 clubs. Maybe Palace on Saturday and Oase on Sunday. If you have not seen World then you will never know if you like its facilities or its mainly Romanian line up.

Personally I would do Fri at Oase, Sat at World and Sun at Oase but given my recent trip I would put World up there as having a decent enough line up to give Oase a run for its money on a Friday or Saturday so may change it to World, Oase and World to see if the Sunday can hold up to Oase's stellar performance on a Sunday.

A few Oase girls I have noticed have migrated to World from the Oase core Romanian and Hungarian contingents.

It may come to past that World will have World's facilities and Oase's spectacular line up. Then you have an unbeatable combination.

Rwaters

12-06-09, 15:30

Corleone and Basket case. Many thanks for your valuable input.

Definitely taking your advice about shifting around my itinerary.

Read Basketcase's 3 day weekend itinerary in the GT forum. Sounds tempting and interesting-but difficult logistically for a first timer. Is GT worth the 2 hour drive after a long flight? Is GT so superior to the Hessen 3? Is GT a must see? If yes, what makes it so much better and worthwhile?

Also, Basketcase, if you can share your hotel recommendations that would be appreciated. At this point, I should seriously consider renting a car.

RW

Michelangelo

12-06-09, 19:21

Is GT worth the 2 hour drive after a long flight? Is GT so superior to the Hessen 3? Is GT a must see?

RWI would say NO and certainly not in the winter. GT is very small. Its main attraction is the very (very) large garden which however is useless in the winter.

GT superior? GT is not a real FKK (girls are not naked and all wear bikinis or underwear) Ocasionally a couple of them will walk around topless, but that's it.

GT certainly is worth being visited but is not a must see for a first timer.

Whichever way you go. have fun!

Basketcase

12-06-09, 19:35

Also, Basketcase, if you can share your hotel recommendations that would be appreciated. At this point, I should seriously consider renting a car.

RW
Rwaters,

If you hang on for a while I will post my 4 day trip report which comprises over a weekend the following:

Day 1: Golden Time - 3 sessions with 3 Romanians.

Day 2: Oase - 2 sessions where 1 session was with a Pole and the 2nd session was with a Romanian. Missed seeing John Moore, but I did find a few of his country men.

Day 3: World - 4 sessions and all 4 were with Romanians (go figure it is Romanians at World). I met up with some lads from the North. I want trip reports from you two - you know who you are.

Day 4: Golden Time - 4 sessions where 1 session was with a German and the other 3 were with Romanians. I met up with a dear friend from North America who does not report.

I was flying in and out of Dusseldorf. My trip report will include all the usual logistics like car hire, hotel accomodation, my thoughts on the clubs, the line up lists.

Rufus T Firefly

12-07-09, 09:27

Hi. I will be in Frankfurt for 3 days at beginning of February. It will be my first time at FKKland. I have read the forums. Would appreciate some assistance with my logistics and plans. I hope to visit Palace and Oase. Considering World.

IMHO, three FKK is more than enough to do in three days. By "first time in FKKland" I'm not sure if you mean first FKK experience or first time in Germany. If it's the latter, I think you've got plenty to do with even two FKK establishments.

For Hotel lodging, I am considering the Savoy or Marriott in downtown Frankfurt. Does this make sense? Would appreciate input on Hotel arrangements.

If you're not on a business trip and trying to save money on your accommodations, you can get a place for under E100 or even under E80 per night. The Frankfurt thread has had discussions on various budget accommodations over the past 24 months.

I am flying in to Frankfurt on a Friday morning. I am thinking of making my first outing on Friday to Palace. Saturday to Oase. Sunday. Not sure yet. I will use public transport. There are clear directions on the forum to get to Palace and Oase. Not sure about my third day. Is World a must see? Is it worth the travel time or am I just better going back to Palace or Oase (whichever I like better).

IMHO, renting a car and driving for hours to a far away FKK is a lot to do with only three days available especially if this is your first time in Germany. I think you'd do well to use Frankfurt as your base and visit just Palace and Oase over the three days but I like a relaxed, even pace to my travel.

I hope you will report back after your February visit to say what worked and didn't work for you.

Rufus

Vito Corleone

12-07-09, 10:19

Corleone and Basket case. Many thanks for your valuable input.

Is GT worth the 2 hour drive after a long flight? Is GT so superior to the Hessen 3? Is GT a must see? If yes, what makes it so much better and worthwhile?

RW
GT is worth the 2 hr drive! I think GT's lineup is much better than Palace & World's lineup. World still has its moments, but less than stellar the past couple of months. Palace seems to be slowly going down hill. Oase & GT's lineup is pretty even, GT's advantage is the 25E CIM & extra 30 min price (some are charging 50E).

Since this is your first time, you will find something you really like @ W, O & P. Every club has a lineup letdown then eventually builds up again.

If I were you, forget about the big clubs & head straight for Bernds. Basketcase loves this club!

Capt Dan

12-07-09, 15:16

Buddy. I would more or less concur with a lot of the advice given to you so far! Except I would concentrate on travelling to World and Oase and have it in mind to get to GoldenTime if possible. Three FKKs in three days is possible to do but you might want to stick with World or Oase for a second day! If I were you, I would not base myself in Frankfurt city. I would definitely rent a car and stay closer to Oase or World (and then perhaps head for GT if you have that inclination). I can recommend a couple of very good hotels (Mercure Hotel Bad Homburg and the Mercure Hotel Kongress Wetzlar) which will cost you a lot less than the joints you intend to stay in and are also in good proximity to either Oase or World.

CD

Corleone and Basket case. Many thanks for your valuable input.

Definitely taking your advice about shifting around my itinerary.

Read Basketcase's 3 day weekend itinerary in the GT forum. Sounds tempting and interesting-but difficult logistically for a first timer. Is GT worth the 2 hour drive after a long flight? Is GT so superior to the Hessen 3? Is GT a must see? If yes, what makes it so much better and worthwhile?

Also, Basketcase, if you can share your hotel recommendations that would be appreciated. At this point, I should seriously consider renting a car.

RW

Lastman

12-07-09, 18:00

GT is worth the 2 hr drive! I think GT's lineup is much better than Palace & World's lineup. World still has its moments, but less than stellar the past couple of months. Palace seems to be slowly going down hill. Oase & GT's lineup is pretty even, GT's advantage is the 25E CIM & extra 30 min price (some are charging 50E).

Since this is your first time, you will find something you really like @ W, O & P. Every club has a lineup letdown then eventually builds up again.

If I were you, forget about the big clubs & head straight for Bernds. Basketcase loves this club!GT is my favourite as well but I wouldn't dream of making the two hour drive after a long flight. The big frankfurt clubs are more relaxing during winter - GT is very very small without the garden, so you can't relax in the same way and it isn't an FKK. After a long flight the sight of lot's of naked women is fantastic, however the next day I would drive to GT, they do have the better lineup, but lineup ain't everything.

Rwaters

12-07-09, 18:22

hmm... lots of advice. A lot to digest.

Interesting that nobody is stating that Palace is a must-see--and we are on the Palace Forum. That speaks for itself. BTW. I like blondes.

Regarding Hotels, I have tremendous success with Priceline. In this situation, I believe I can stay at the Marriott for approximately $70 or the Movenpcik for $50 in Frankfurt (not sure if they are good locations).

Additionally, for car rentals, if I rent from downtown Frankfurt, it will cost $70 for 3 days. With airport pickup for car, it is $190.

Appreciate all this great advice for my first trip.

RW

Akibono

12-08-09, 01:44

GT is my favourite as well but I wouldn't dream of making the two hour drive after a long flight. The big frankfurt clubs are more relaxing during winter - GT is very very small without the garden, so you can't relax in the same way and it isn't an FKK. After a long flight the sight of lot's of naked women is fantastic, however the next day I would drive to GT, they do have the better lineup, but lineup ain't everything.

For some, the only thing that is required is for the hole to be in the right position.

Rwaters

12-08-09, 01:59

Lots of great advice. Lots to consider.

I can find quality hotels in downtown Frankfurt for $50-85 such as Movenpick or Marriott.

The cost of a car rental from downtown Frankfurt is $70 for 3 days. If I pick up from airport it is $185.

For a first timer, this information is great. However, it requires planning.

So, I have lots of options to consider. At this point, I am taking advice of ISG Members and looking at Oase and World. Which means I will definitely need a car rental. Interesting how Palace is not recommended on the Palace forum.

Not sure if I should use downtown Frankfurt as a homebase or to stay in outlying Hotels suggested by Captain Dan.

RW

Sebastiane

12-08-09, 20:04

Plover 23

12-09-09, 09:18

For what its worth I think Palace IS a MUST SEE place! ... (I haven't yet been to oase or world.just can't be bothered to make the extra trip when I have palace on my doorstep!)

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

Lastman

12-09-09, 12:15

For some, the only thing that is required is for the hole to be in the right position.So true :)

although my mate who once jumped in a canal in amsterdam in a forlorn attempt to visit a troll prositute would probabely disagree. He always wanted different pussy, that he said was his quest. It must be noted he was a virgin until 28.

Regnad

12-09-09, 12:24

Doesn't add up. (I haven't yet been to oase or world.just can't be bothered to make the extra trip when I have palace on my doorstep!)
I would strongly advise against visiting World or Oase. If you're happy with the quality of service at Palace, stay there. Should you venture off to one of the others and find out what you're missing, you'll find Palace a difficult place to return to.

The reason others complain about Palace is simple: they've been to the others; they've compared the level of service.

I've been to Palace once. I found it exactly as reported, repeatedly. I won't return.

Myrmidon

12-09-09, 15:10

For what its worth I think Palace IS a MUST SEE place! Man, its in the dead bang centre of town and you can get model quality pussy without travelling v much. Its actually annoying how so many people complain but keep on going there!

Doesn't add up. (I haven't yet been to oase or world.just can't be bothered to make the extra trip when I have palace on my doorstep!)

While admittedly it has been a while, (since last April), but I made multiple visits to Palace & Oase and can say that I did enjoy myself at Palace during the afternoon / early evening because I was prepared and selective. They also had a very good masseuse. On the other hand, Oase in the Spring is like heaven: the outdoor facilities cannot be matched by Palace. I found the ladies equally charming at both. When (if) I return next spring I will visit Palace at least once. Oase will be the destination choice and I will try to add World. When we stop exploring, we stop living. We are individuals with different tastes and so we go to different places. But for me, Oase is my first choice, so far. Myr. ;)

Kiwi 69

12-09-09, 15:58

For some, the only thing that is required is for the hole to be in the right position. LMAO! A truly great comment!

Harry Hymes

12-10-09, 16:51

I was at the Palace last Tuesday afternoon. Went with Nikoletta again and with a drop-dead-gorgeous woman from the Czech Republic named Linda, somewhat tall, short hair, some tattoos. With Linda I had OWO with CIM, some massages, DATY and then a session with annal. She was great. Nikoletta I like, I also like that she is a 30-something woman with the kind of looks and body I find most desirable and the sex was as reliably good as always.

Syzygies

12-12-09, 06:14

During Messa, its a good time at Palace because often find large selection of girls but fewer customers.

Sadly some great girls have been missing for some time now, e. G. Kimmi from Brazil not seen recently, nor Mitzu (Japan), nor Deedee (Thai).

But plenty of long time girls still there, e. G. Daniella (Romania) has been working often, and Nicholetta (like Sara Jessica Parker but hotter) is always great and makes me come easily with her tight pussy.

Had great sessions recently with ever reliable Bee (Thai), the gorgeous Kim (German), and the hot for it newbie girl Naa (also Thai) who loves riding cowgirl. All highly recommended.

Can probably tell that I go for slimish girls, but German Kim with luscious lips is more voluptuous.

Many girls very pretty that I would like to try, but fail to get to due to not enough sperm to do many girls per day.

Syzygies

12-12-09, 12:20

During Messe, plenty of extra girls. Even Mercedes from Oase turned up at the palace.

Dandriller

12-13-09, 05:56

I went to Palace yesterday afternoon from 3-5pm, taking advantage of the €50/2 hour deal.

It seems that winter is a far better time to go to Palace.

My past few visits to Palace during the warmer months have been a little disappointing compared to the first couple at the start of the year.

Yesterday the place seemed to resemble much more the place I first visited in winter previously.

Showers were surprisingly hot, almost too hot at one point.

Far better than the cold showers I have experienced in the past.

The new restaurant dining experience is definitely nicer than what was previously available.

Anyway after arriving I checked out the place, I chatted to a few girls who approached me, but told them I would approach them if I was ready for them.

Then I saw a Thai girl named Poong relaxing on the couches who had a very nice face that I could not resist sitting with.

She doesn't look typically Thai and speaks very good English so I was quite taken by her and it wasn't long before she had my cock in her mouth there on the couch.

We headed to the Kino where I ate her pussy for a while before changing to 69 on her request.

She was a GFE allowing LFK and licking of her nipples on her small but firm breasts.

Eventually she was on top in RCG and she had a very tight pussy.

She turned around into CG and I came in that position.

A very nice experience for €50.

After some food in the restaurant, I headed back to see if I could manage another session before my 2 hours was finished.

There were a few girls on my to do list but then a girl that I had never seen before caught my eye.

Her name was Shakira and she said she was from Cuba.

She had huge bolt ons and a great butt with darkish skin.

I decided that I would give her a try.

I wanted to go to the Kino but she wanted to go to a room.

We started in the Kino but she would only blow me there so we went to the room next to the Kino so I could eat her pussy.

She resumed blowing me and she was very PSE, quite aggressive with spitting.

There was either a tongue piercing or some teeth scratching my cock so it was not doing it for me so she sucked my balls while jerking me with oil.

I could not cum though so she gave me a massage.

I gave her €50 and showered and left.

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Dandriller

12-14-09, 07:54

One other pleasant surprise that I forgot to mention was that most girls were naked, which was a stark contrast to the last few times I was there.

M P Lurker

12-14-09, 11:47

Then I saw a Thai girl named Poong relaxing on the couches who had a very nice face that I could not resist sitting with.

Either you spelled the name wrong or perhaps she isn't Thai.
Poong in Thai means "fat belly" so is an unlikely name.

Pawn is a common Thai name, or perhaps Poom or Bpoom.

Rwaters

12-15-09, 22:40

Beffen1

12-16-09, 01:44

So, I am continuing my research for my trip at beginning of February. Thank you for all the great advice.

I have extended my time by a day. I am arriving on a Thursday morning and leaving on a Monday. So I am planning a 4 day tour.

Looks like a car rental is essential no matter what decisions I make.

I am thinking of spending my first day at one of the big 3 Hessen FKKs.

On day two (Friday), I may venture North to Golden Time. Or perhaps even try a Partytreff. Many say the NRW FKKs are far superior due to lineup. But smaller and more crowded. Thus, I am undecided if it is worth the distance. Would appreciate opinions on this.

Not sure about Saturday. Can leave that open. And on Sunday I will be at Oase.

Got to love having these options.

I dunno man. First trip? I'd stay in Hessen and give GT a pass. Do you really want to slip slide on the icy snowy autobahn for what is, in the best of weather, a 2 hour drive? If snowy it could be 5 hours.
And then, when you get there, what if they don't let you in at Golden Time? Or if they do, you can expect an exceedingly crowded, smoky club where all the white robes are trapped together indoors and greatly outnumber the babes and room waits could exceed 45 minutes or an hour. And then they close at 1 AM.

IMHO, that drive on a four day trip is a waste of time and money, especially in winter. Stick to World, Palace, and Oase and maybe revisit the one you liked best on day 4.
JMHO.
beffen

Wassab

12-16-09, 02:11

I dunno man. First trip? I'd stay in Hessen and give GT a pass. Do you really want to slip slide on the icy snowy autobahn for what is, in the best of weather, a 2 hour drive? If snowy it could be 5 hours.

And then, when you get there, what if they don't let you in at Golden Time? Or if they do, you can expect an exceedingly crowded, smoky club where all the white robes are trapped together indoors and greatly outnumber the babes and room waits could exceed 45 minutes or an hour. And then they close at 1 AM.

IMHO, that drive on a four day trip is a waste of time and money, especially in winter. Stick to World, Palace, and Oase and maybe revisit the one you liked best on day 4.

JMHO.

BeffenDoes this happen often? Is it because of capacity limitation due to fire code?

Simex

12-16-09, 03:11

I think beffren spot on - hit the nail on the head with his summary.

either way - enjoy and have fun.

IMHO, that drive on a four day trip is a waste of time and money, especially in winter. Stick to World, Palace, and Oase and maybe revisit the one you liked best on day 4.
JMHO.
beffen

Mahaba

12-18-09, 20:54

After a year of avoiding Palace and sticking with Oase, I gave it another try.

The facilities are much cleaner and modern than Oase, but the girls require one to be more on the defensive.

I thought the rooms were great, with stacks of clean sheets available for each session, and the overall look and feel of the place is professional, clean and well organized. They even have drawings on the doors to explain the prices. Such as an open mouth with a spurting dick indicating 50 Euro extra.

My issues are with the girls, as there are lots of sharks mixed in with the herd.

I was approached several times by "teams" promising the world. I also observed more than a few customers being charged extra at payment time.

I had two sessions as follows:

1. Joy from Thailand. I thought a Thai would be good for a massage and decent sex. She started with a back massage, asked me to turn over then started an oily genital massage. So far...so good. However, instead of the follow-on BBBJ I expected, she took advantage of my obvious enjoyment and would not stop stroking and "Made" me cum....Game over...50 Euros down.

2. Blonde from Poland...Good attitude, but charged 100 due to what she said was time in excess of 30-minutes. I forgot to check the time, so had to pay up. The session was OK, but nothing spectacular.

So there it is. The girls in Palace, in my opinion, could use a lesson in the "soft-sell" and not come on so strong that you have to make up excuses to get some breathing room and pick your own girl.

I told them all I just finished and was "Kaput" or "the glass is empty" etc.

As much as I like the facilities, I think Palace is best suited for transit travelers here on business and willing to pay the extra cash.

Happy Holidays!

Sebastiane

12-19-09, 01:59

Went to Palace this evening. From about 6 to just after midnight. It was a Xmas special and all decorated in Christmasy stuff. All the girls were dressed in evening wear--the first time I have seen that at Palace --and looked really stunning. I think its a great idea as it leaves a lot to the imagination--and everyone knows the brain is the most important sex organ!

Soon after I entered I spotted this tall, long-legged, dark haired beauty in a black cocktail dress that was backless apart from a few threads and so low cut that about a third of the girl's ass was showing. It was DAMN sexy. She was also very pretty and wearing 6 inch heals which effect combined made her look like a supermodel. I usually take my time before going with a girl but this time I couldn't resist. Glimpses of that ass were too tempting! So I approached her and began to talk and asked her her name (Raphaela, German from Stuttgart) She had mesmerising eyes too and a killer body! It was almost embarassing since she was so much taller than me in her heals. Well, I'd already decided I'd spend an hour with her and told her so. She was great in the room too and we did everything. She had great oral skills and I came when we were 69ing in her mouth after 1 hour. A great new find (for me)! Damage: 150 Looks: 9 Body: 10 Performance: 9

I then ate an excellent Xmas themed seasonal dinner with roast beef steak, veal, potatoes, red cabbage.

I then went with Luna again after seeing her dancing on the pole. Was a good session but she'd hurt her foot whilst dancing and so her mind wasnt totally on the job this time. An average experience this time by her standards. 8/9/7. Damage: 50

It was around 10 by now and really packed and busy. I was tired and had a rest, sipping coffee. Saw some really cute girls including another stunner called Lina (?).a tall leggy blonde whom I decided I wanted to go with later but she seemed busy.

I then spotted the lovely petite Sophie (Hamburg, German) looking arrestingly pretty in her black party dress and done up blonde hair. Wow! When she approached me with another girl I couldn't take my eyes off her see looked so vulnerably (!) beautiful, like a doll, a filmstar. (I'm a SUCKER for pretty faces --both inside palace and outside!)

Well we went in for another hour session which was great and I finished with CIM and another extra. Damage: 200. 8/9.5/9

There is now a new ATM machine which accepts Visa, Mastercard, AmEX and EC cards (a great idea) and I had to go to it to pay Sophie.

I decided I'd spent enough and was exhausted anyhow so I went to shower and change. In the locker room I saw the most beautiful girl I've ever seen at Palace in a towel waiting on a guy to pay her. I blurted out, "Wow! She's stunning!" She looked nonplussed and he laughed and agreed with me. She looked Middle Eastern / Mediterranean, was dark haired and golden-tanned with jet black hair and almond eyes, slim and quite tall (but could've been from any number of countries). I was actually too nervous (you know when you really like a girl in the real, non-FKK, world you get a bit nervous?) to ask her her name but wished I had. I will have to session with her next time if she's there.

A v good session in Palace. I love the dress idea.

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Basketcase

12-19-09, 10:09

Saw some really cute girls including another stunner called Lina (?).a tall leggy blonde whom I decided I wanted to go with later but she seemed busy.

There is now a new ATM machine which accepts Visa, Mastercard, AmEX and EC cards (a great idea) and I had to go to it to pay Sophie.
Salut Sybarite2006,

Blond, porn star looking Lena (Germany) I understand works at Palace in the Winter and at World in the Summer. Lena worked at World on 11-12 December and then back at Palace on 13 December. I guess she was at Palace on 18 December for the dress day Christmas party.

Lena did not seem that busy at World and spent a fair amount of time sitting around on the couches in the Italian section of the main bar room until the later evening when guys got real horny and wanted to start fucking.

I was given some encouragement by Nick the G to give her try as she had been given positive feedback by the Germans.

I practised sex with Lena where she patiently waited 20-25 minutes in the room with me sitting on my lap as I massaged her body and fondled her lovely full and natural breasts and then we had a lovely time in the room for 50€ where Lena provided body licking on me, BBBJ, and then multi positional sex ending in dead doggie style with Lena lying down flat on her front.

Lena is really beautiful and if the quality at Palace is that good then it may warrant a return visit. Maybe I need to go with a Palace veteran so I do not get sharked.

I guess my dirty little Minx blond Angelina (Czech Republic) is still there as is blond beach babe like Gina (Czech Republic). I also hear that blond beach babe like Shayenne (Germany) is also working Palace now since she is no longer popping up as sighted in Golden Time on any of my visits.

Wow, that is dangerous now that Palace has a fully functional ATM on the premises that takes all cards including international ones. A bit like the ATM in the World foyer where guys can top up with cash and go wild with their spending.

I am glad that you had a great time at Palace and it seems the home team German girls are providing you service orientated experiences. Interestingly I am reading the same on the French forum that the Germans are realiable and the Romanians and Bulgarians can be a bit haphazard. Anyway, someone's opinion, but one that I have found as well since I also tend to like to book Germans as well for the same reasons. Problem is the lower headcount of Germans compared to Romanians in the clubs.

Like I said: just an opinion.

Ciao,

Sebastiane

12-19-09, 13:41

Hi BC,

Yeah that sounds like the girl. Blonde, tall, gorgeous Lena. I should def try her.

TBH, I've nearly always had a good experience and v good service from the German girls. They're horny as fuck and often conform to my ideals of beauty.

Still, if anyone was there yesterday at the Christmas party and knows who that dark haired, straight nosed beauty was I saw at the end let me know!

Hanshans01

12-20-09, 18:13

Hi,

I'm visiting the Palace next week for the first time.

Does anybody has any suggestions?

What's the way to react on "sharks"?

Hessen Bub

12-21-09, 08:22

As much as I like the facilities, I think Palace is best suited for transit travelers here on business and willing to pay the extra cash.

Or the experienced clubber knowing how to seperate the sharks from the gems.

HB

Big30

12-21-09, 09:24

Or the experienced clubber knowing how to seperate the sharks from the gems.

HB

Even non experienced clubbers can have a great time in FKK-Palace! I had it more than once, even being a fully unexperienced Palace clubber!

Just one remark! Do not take it all to seriously! Some members of this board seem to think writing a report is the first step to writing their PhD Tesis :-).

Going to a FKK-club is really not a science! Bottom line it is only about girls that allow us to fuck them for 50 euro/30m.

You will find those girls in Palace, as much as you will find those girls in any other FKK's in Hessen or clubs in NRW or egal where in Germany!

Basically that is what the "game" is all about!!!

Kind regards,
Big30 (a non experienced monger and junior member of this board)

Davidag

12-21-09, 17:33

Basketcase

12-21-09, 21:04

Hi,

I'm visiting the Palace next week for the first time.

1.. Does anybody has any suggestions?

2. What's the way to react on "sharks"?

Hi Hanshans01

1. Don't go to Palace on Silvester / New Years Eve as it is not open.

2. Are not sharks found in the sea? Seriously, you can give in to all these sex workers' demands and be left with a hefty bill so make sure you have plenty of cold hard cash if you succumb. Or you can do what the anti smoking campaign says and just say, "No".

Sadly, the long term average for my currency is usually 1.46€ but it has been lanquishing at the 1.10€ mark all 2009. The expectation is that in 2010 there will be a recovery to 1.176€ which would be nice if correct. The real sharks is the financial crisis destroying so much value in asset prices.

Ekliges Lauern

12-22-09, 03:18

Hi,

I'm visiting the Palace next week for the first time.

Does anybody has any suggestions?

What's the way to react on "sharks"?http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=750546&postcount=3079

Basically, test for chemistry and pay attention to warning signs.

Don't come across as a tourist.

An average looking girl that is constantly busy is doing something right.

The Kino is the friend of the informed consumer.

Use downtime between sessions to watch how the girls interact with their customers.

Ekliges Lauern

12-22-09, 03:23

About 3 years ago now I had my first FKK experience and it was at The Palace. I have to say I had 3 great sessions and I had not even read this board. I actually did not even know what an FKK was I was travelling with a friend and he was busy with his girl friend and I jumped in a taxi with the Palace sign on it and said take me there. Can you imagine my amazement when I arrived. I am now hooked on these Clubs.Your first FKK visit is like the first time you make love to a woman. You will never forget it.

I still look back on my first visit to Atlantis years ago, walking into the main room and thinking "oh my fucking God, I never dreamed this could exists, I have died and gone to heaven".

Syzygies

12-24-09, 06:55

I guess my dirty little Minx blond Angelina (Czech Republic) is still there as is blond beach babe like Gina (Czech Republic). I also hear that blond beach babe like Shayenne (Germany) is also working Palace now since she is no longer popping up as sighted in Golden Time on any of my visits.BC,

Angelina is always there! Unfortunately I don't know which one is Gina (obviously didn't attract me).

ML

Syzygies

12-24-09, 07:01

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1. Joy from Thailand. I thought a Thai would be good for a massage and decent sex. She started with a back massage, asked me to turn over then started an oily genital massage. So far...so good. However, instead of the follow-on BBBJ I expected, she took advantage of my obvious enjoyment and would not stop stroking and "Made" me cum....Game over...50 Euros down.

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So there it is. The girls in Palace, in my opinion, could use a lesson in the "soft-sell" and not come on so strong that you have to make up excuses to get some breathing room and pick your own girl.

I told them all I just finished and was "Kaput" or "the glass is empty" etc.

As much as I like the facilities, I think Palace is best suited for transit travelers here on business and willing to pay the extra cash.

Happy Holidays!In my opinion, it is the duty of the customers to refuse all the girls that are too pushy or try the hard sell. Its just not sexy!

There are some lovely girls that are never this way. German Kim, Nicholetta, are just first two that come to mind.

I refused Joy due to being far too pushy and didn't like her tits as well. The other Thai girls are nicer and give very good service.

Vito Corleone

12-25-09, 00:29

BC,

Angelina is always there! Unfortunately I don't know which one is Gina (obviously didn't attract me).

ML
Gina looked really good when she first started over a yr ago. Her ass is really getting big & the rest of her bod is catching up. Still looks good, just not a swimsuit model bod.

Vito Corleone

12-25-09, 00:43

GT is my favourite as well but I wouldn't dream of making the two hour drive after a long flight. The big frankfurt clubs are more relaxing during winter - GT is very very small without the garden, so you can't relax in the same way and it isn't an FKK. After a long flight the sight of lot's of naked women is fantastic, however the next day I would drive to GT, they do have the better lineup, but lineup ain't everything.

I visit the clubs because of the lineups & really do not care for places to relax. Maybe old farts need to relax for 4-5 hrs after one 30 minute session. After a long flight I am ready for some action all day & night. If you want to relax, stay in your hotel room.

Basketcase

12-25-09, 00:47

Gina looked really good when she first started over a yr ago. Her ass is really getting big & the rest of her bod is catching up. Still looks good, just not a swimsuit model bod.
Hi Vito Corleone,

As well as blond Gina (Czech Republic), have you been keeping tabs on Shayenne / Chayenne (Dusseldorf, Germany) at Palace? She is meant to be a shoulder lenght dark haired girl now. Supposedly she allows kissing now if you pay a minimum session of 100€ whether that is determined by time or extras. I sort of think that they have the same look.

Yes, Gina is putting on a bit of padding when I last saw her.

Vito Corleone

12-25-09, 01:53

Hi Vito Corleone,

As well as blond Gina (Czech Republic), have you been keeping tabs on Shayenne / Chayenne (Dusseldorf, Germany) at Palace? She is meant to be a shoulder lenght dark haired girl now. Supposedly she allows kissing now if you pay a minimum session of 100€ whether that is determined by time or extras. I sort of think that they have the same look.

Yes, Gina is putting on a bit of padding when I last saw her.
Wassup BC,

I have been following Cheyenne's club hoping, but I seem to miss her @ GT & Palace. Kissing is a nice bonus, but her bj is fantastic. German Kim also allows kissing if you commit to an hr session.

Basketcase

12-25-09, 02:23

Wassup BC,

I have been following Cheyenne's club hoping, but I seem to miss her @ GT & Palace. Kissing is a nice bonus, but her bj is fantastic. German Kim also allows kissing if you commit to an hr session.
Vito Corleone,

Shayenne works the weekends at Palace like Fridays, Saturdays and maybe Sundays too and odd nights mid week per her schedule from what I can make out. Starts from around mid afternoon from say 14:00 to 15:00 to late. She gets mixed reviews by the Germans.

When Shayenne worked at Golden Time she did not kiss at all from what I know. I guess service standards are different at Palace. Shayenne knows other German girls at Palace.

No real issue, Shayenne spells her name with an "S" since that is how she wrote it out once.

Smuler

12-25-09, 02:24

She is meant to be a shoulder lenght dark haired girl now.When I saw her in October, she had light brown hair. Probably her real hair color

Vito-BC has agreed with me that American porn star Shawna Lenee really looks like Shayenne

Just but light brown hair on her:

http://www.Porn-star.com/shawna_spreads/08.jpg

Enjoy

Best Regards

Smuler

Basketcase

12-25-09, 12:21

Its kinda ironic that you say that to Lastman, who .... is hardly an old fart, at least not by my terms anyway). It is ironic because I have witnessed him (on a number of occassions, particularly in World) get into double figures with women in a 12 hour period.
Captain Dan,

Lastman is a sex machine. Showing the room to 10 or more sex workers a day at World and Golden Time. Lastman is similar to a continental that I know whom we call "Sex Machine". He is usually visits Geneva as it is closer but he also gets up to Oase and bangs 10 girls. That is a minimum 500€ spend on sex workers. He was doing sex workers on the hour every hour to make sure he did the 10 girl target during his stay in Oase. Very funny guy. Also he had broad taste in sex workers which was a bonus. He would be doing the likes of tall, blond, Amazonian Sunny (Germany) right down to tiny dark haired Mirona (Moldavia) and Angie (Romania). This broad taste ensured there were no repeats in his line up and that there was always something that he could fuck to get him over the edge. By the sixth girl he says he can still feel the orgasm but nothing comes out at the dealing end so to speak.

My last trip the stories and feed back from sex workers was that a lot of regulars in 2008 and 2009 have tailed away. Either they come less or do not come at all. Then the ones that do come may stick to the 50€ standard session or still go for the 1 hour session at 100€ but do not go for extras like CIM or anal. This affects the purse that the sex workers take home.

Then there is the comment from sex workers that the sex tourists / foreigners are the icing on the cake so to speak. We are considered the bonus when they see us foreign regulars come through the FKK or sauna club door or send a SMS or email that we are on the way. The foreigners top up the reduced regulars' income. We need to be pampered but maybe not in the same way as regulars since we are probably horny as hell and do not need the 15 minute chat and banter before going to the room. The regulars have more opportunity to come so do not have that same urgency since the tourists (like me) know that they are on the clock since they have to get in and get out to make their connecting flight to their final destination. The regulars can say "oh well, not today, there is always next time." The tourists next time may never happen or could will be months in between the next visit.

Anyway that was just my take on what a several girls were saying.

Basketcase

12-27-09, 18:25

When I saw her in October, she had light brown hair. Probably her real hair color

Vito-BC has agreed with me that American porn star Shawna Lenee really looks like Shayenne

Just but light brown hair on her:

http://www.Porn-star.com/shawna_spreads/08.jpg

Enjoy

Best Regards

Smuler
Man, it was fun banging Shayenne. Especially as she looks like porn star Shawna Lenee. Makes you feel like you have done a porn star yourself. Even "the Painter" that Creature2 refers who is actually Piccasso agrees that Shayenne's blowjob is worth the session fee.

Capt Dan

12-29-09, 05:59

Hey buddy,

Thats what FKKs are all about: Relaxation and enjoyment.

Do not know Lastman & do not realy care. If he needs place to relax, he should stay home.

Syzygies

12-29-09, 09:45

Do not know Lastman & do not realy care. If he needs place to relax, he should stay home.Well worth ignoring the above advice! ;)

Not every guy is such a stud as he needs no "pause". It is often too much touble to get dressed, leave, go somewhere else, and return later, take clothes off again, etc.

So fortunately the Palace has a reasonable relax room out the back near the massage room, for relaxing between sessions. Can even read a book. Unfortunately its not guaranteed that unknown girls will not approach while trying to take a nap there. Fortunately only a few girls are so brazen.

Karank01

12-29-09, 11:10

Does anyone know whether they check the girls at Palace for AIDS or any STD's?

Wat are the laws in Germany for that?

Karank01

12-29-09, 12:06

Any idea whether they check the girls at Palace for AIDS or any STD's? What are the laws in germany in this regard?

Basketcase

12-29-09, 20:26

Any idea whether they check the girls at Palace for AIDS or any STD's? What are the laws in germany in this regard?
keine Ahnung (no idea)

Henio

12-29-09, 20:45

Any idea whether they check the girls at Palace for AIDS or any STD's? What are the laws in germany in this regard?
Mandatory testing is not allowed in Germany. Used to be allowed but was abolished in 2001 if I remember correctly so by the law it is all based on voluntary checking. Some clubs have "ways" though to make sure the girls have checkups but I dont know if Palace "enforces" any kind of checking.

Doctor_Skank

12-29-09, 21:30

Any idea whether they check the girls at Palace for AIDS or any STD's? What are the laws in germany in this regard?Even if they did, given incubation times and the inability to check certain STDs would mean that there was still a degree of uncertainty.

That said, you can always refuse a BBBJ if it bothers you.

Personally for me BBBJ is one of the reasons to go to FKK in the first place.

Beffen1

12-30-09, 00:18

Mandatory testing is not allowed in Germany. Used to be allowed but was abolished in 2001 if I remember correctly so by the law it is all based on voluntary checking. Some clubs have "ways" though to make sure the girls have checkups but I dont know if Palace "enforces" any kind of checking.

Read the Palace employee handbook, Henio. You must have BV, or agree to acquire it soon after employment, to work at palace, it is a prerequisite.

Dr beffen , muschi epidemiologist

Eddie123

12-30-09, 06:02

Any idea whether they check the girls at Palace for AIDS or any STD's? What are the laws in germany in this regard?

During my last visit to Palace, i asked one of the girls working there about this concern. She told me that all the women working at the club had to get tested frequently for any deceases. It was mandatory. That was certainly nice to hear :).

Vito Corleone

01-02-10, 06:07

Hey buddy,

Thats what FKKs are all about: Relaxation and enjoyment.I have no problems relaxing @ GT in the winter & when it is really crowded. Anyway, I really do not care if the guy travels to GT or stays in Frankfurt.

Vito Corleone

01-02-10, 06:14

Well worth ignoring the above advice! ;)

Not every guy is such a stud as he needs no "pause". It is often too much touble to get dressed, leave, go somewhere else, and return later, take clothes off again, etc.

So fortunately the Palace has a reasonable relax room out the back near the massage room, for relaxing between sessions. Can even read a book. Unfortunately its not guaranteed that unknown girls will not approach while trying to take a nap there. Fortunately only a few girls are so brazen.
Just bring the "do not disturb" sign from your hotel room next time. Another good place to rest is the lounge chairs between the back of the bar & whirlpool. Set my alarm & enjoyed a couple of peaceful 30 minute power naps.

I think they have a computer room or something similar to relax & write live reports!

Vito Corleone

01-02-10, 06:34

Vito Corleone,

Shayenne works the weekends at Palace like Fridays, Saturdays and maybe Sundays too and odd nights mid week per her schedule from what I can make out. Starts from around mid afternoon from say 14:00 to 15:00 to late. She gets mixed reviews by the Germans.

When Shayenne worked at Golden Time she did not kiss at all from what I know. I guess service standards are different at Palace. Shayenne knows other German girls at Palace.

No real issue, Shayenne spells her name with an "S" since that is how she wrote it out once.
Wassup BC,

I hope to catch her on my next trip. She tosses my salad like there's no tomorrow. Some women do it just for the extra cash (or included), but I think she really gets off when a man enjoys it.

Cheyenne & Lena, more reasons for you to try Palace again. You might want to visit with a regular who does not spend 3-4 hr sessions with 2 ATF's.

Capt Dan

01-03-10, 02:43

I have no problems relaxing @ GT in the winter & when it is really crowded. Hey buddy maybe all them old farts, need to also relax for 4-5 hrs, before the 30 minute session in the wintertime!

Maybe old farts need to relax for 4-5 hrs after one 30 minute session. After a long flight I am ready for some action all day & night. If you want to relax, stay in your hotel room.

Kimino

01-04-10, 22:32

Kimino

01-05-10, 10:32

Jamargot

01-06-10, 00:10

Vito Corleone

01-06-10, 02:11

Vito Corleone

01-06-10, 02:12

Basketcase

01-06-10, 02:16

Ciao.

Considering the price of flights, I thought I could land at Frankfurt Hahn airport, which is at about 120km from frankfurt center (and Palace).

Anyone knows if it's an easy (and cheap) task to get from Hahn airport to Frankfurt?

Thanks for any help!From what I know and from reading this forum's advice you can easily hire a car or take public transport from Hahn airport to go to Cologne, Mainz, Luxembourg, Hanau as well as Frankfurt. So yes it is possible but I have no context as to what is meant by easy or cheap for you. The forum advice is better to fly into Frankfurt Main airport. I understand that Hahn airport can be cheaper for flights but when you add in car hire and/or public transport then it can work out about the same when you get to your final destination.

Ciao for now

Basketcase

01-06-10, 02:51

Ciao!

I looked around but didn't find the info, my fault for sure.

I'm planning a visit in Frankfurt and I'll visit Palace and probably Oase.

I usually go to Artemis in Berlin and like the place a lot. Also visted Paradise in Stuttgart (also nice), and Colosseum in Augsburg (not at the same level, imo).

I'm looking for the usual basic info:

Entrance fee

Girls rates (also extras)

Average number of girls usually there.

When is lingerie night?

Both Palace and Oase look like places quite similar to Artemis and Paradise, but I don't understand how big (or small) they are if compared.

Have a nice day everyone!I was going to write out an answer but then I saw Vito Corleone's answer. I realised he has succintly answered all your questions especially as you have context from the FKK background you already have. Your answers can also be found by searching the Oase and Palace threads.

Each website has pictures of the club to give you the feel for the size and the Oase website even has pictures of the line up on certain days to give you an idea of the number of women working.

Big30

01-06-10, 02:52

Ciao.

Considering the price of flights, I thought I could land at Frankfurt Hahn airport, which is at about 120km from frankfurt center (and Palace).

Anyone knows if it's an easy (and cheap) task to get from Hahn airport to Frankfurt?

Thanks for any help!

See,
http://omnibusse.bohr.de/de/fahrplan.php?akt_linie=16

There is a bus connection to Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof. Cost 12 euro, duration 1 hr45m.

Kimino

01-06-10, 19:18

I was going to write out an answer but then I saw Vito Corleone's answer. I realised he has succintly answered all your questions especially as you have context from the FKK background you already have. Your answers can also be found by searching the Oase and Palace threads.

Each website has pictures of the club to give you the feel for the size and the Oase website even has pictures of the line up on certain days to give you an idea of the number of women working.Succintly..

Well I did find answers to some of the stuff, no info on the entry fee of Palace, or girl rates.

Probably can't be very different from Artemis (for now the most expensive one I visited, but also the nicer).

It's not going to make any difference to me actually, but I know friends will ask..

Thanks for the help, I'll post my report once I will have visited the place.

Ciao

Kimino

01-06-10, 19:23

See,
http://omnibusse.bohr.de/de/fahrplan.php?akt_linie=16

There is a bus connection to Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof. Cost 12 euro, duration 1 hr45m.Thanks very much Big30 (and all gving info on this) this was very useful.

Ciao

Iseeu

01-06-10, 21:54

Each website has pictures of the club to give you the feel for the size and the Oase website even has pictures of the line up on certain days to give you an idea of the number of women working.
That's news to me. Where can you find pictures of the daily lineup on the Oase website? Or the number of women working on a given day? Please enlighten us.

Gentleman Travel

01-07-10, 16:12

Big30

01-08-10, 00:40

That's news to me. Where can you find pictures of the daily lineup on the Oase website? Or the number of women working on a given day? Please enlighten us.

Come on! Do not tell most pictures of the girls are at least 2-3 years old and even more some girls never worked in BHH :-)!

Or ... . Biggrin!

Big30

Hessen Bub

01-08-10, 18:37

IF there were separate forums for each FKK there could be an introduction thread to each club to explain all questions for newbies. Like in the LSH board. One thread per club sucks.

HB

M P Lurker

01-09-10, 07:54

I have only been to the Palace once, and it was a pretty quiet day, so I did not see a lot of public sex, just a couple of BJs in the kino. Is sex limited to the private rooms and the kino, or can you go at it pretty much anywhere you like - like the swinging settees, sauna room, pool-side lounge-chairs?

And what is this "Secret Lounge" their web-site talks about?
That must be new since I was there last year.

Also their web-site talks about 2 bars, but I don't recall seeing anyone drinking anything but juice. I know they offered some high-priced drinks like champagne or super-premium whiskey, but can you get a real drink (like beer or wine) for a semi-reasonable price?
A few years back there was some public sex but this has now been discouraged and so limited to Kino.

There is a private lounge for special parties.

No, although there are 2 bars, you cannot get basic alcohol at a reasonable price. This discourages guys from getting drunk very well.

It would cost a fortune to get drunk ;)
I agree that alcohol and sex do not mix well for many guys. The girls have to cope with lots of limp dick as it is (yes some girls gossip about their customers in general). They insist on taking guys before they are really ready for next round. O.K. I know some guys have endless stamina but its probably not the norm.

Willa1

01-09-10, 16:12

Ciao.

Considering the price of flights, I thought I could land at Frankfurt Hahn airport, which is at about 120km from frankfurt center (and Palace).

Anyone knows if it's an easy (and cheap) task to get from Hahn airport to Frankfurt?

Thanks for any help!One other (but more expensive) option is to rent a car from sixti.comfrom Hahn Airport. The cost is about 20 Euro/day with 100 free km (extra 0. 15 Euro/km). If you are staying 3 days. Total cost 60 Euros (up to 300 km) plus gas. The bus will cost you 25 euro for the round trip. And then you have the UBahn costs of 2-3 Euro per trip. The other disadvantage is there is a big orange SIXTI logo on it. Somewhat embarrasing & conspicuous. But another option.

Will

Big30

01-10-10, 05:12

IF there were separate forums for each FKK there could be an introduction thread to each club to explain all questions for newbies. Like in the LSH board. One thread per club sucks.

HB

One general introduction topic or a FAQ for every club would be very much wellcomed!

- How do I get from Airport A to club B.
- Can you please give a list of recommended hotels close to club C.
- I stay at hotel D how do i get to club E? I do not have navi in my rental car, how much is it with public transport?
- In 2 weeks I will be in Amsterdam/Frankfurt, want to go to a Saunaclub/FKK in Germany, please tell me which club is the best!
- How much is a taxi from Frankfurt Airport to BHH :-)?

etc., etc!

No this FAQ topic is not what I mean, that is no more than a collection of questions and almost no answers,
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2601

Just make for every club one FAQ or one Saunaclub/FKK FAQ! I understand new members on this forum have a lot of questions! Let us help them not by telling them please the search engine but by giving them a link to the relevant FAQ!

Just my 2 last cents of thoughts on ISG!

Bye and cu,
Big30

Angus Magee

01-10-10, 13:38

IF there were separate forums for each FKK there could be an introduction thread to each club to explain all questions for newbies. Like in the LSH board. One thread per club sucks.

HB

I think this a capital idea. There is certainly a need for a "sticky" type thread (always on top & perhaps locked) that contains such info as suggested and can be easily linked to & referenced. This would keep the specific FKK threads for reviews and perhaps a little bit of light banter.

We would need a well written informative report for at least all the major FKK(Oase, Artemis, GT, Palace, World, Samya,?) and for Jackson to post the threads.

I volunteer to write the Artemis introduction if this idea takes wing.

Personally I have always wondered why we do not have mods for some of the more popular German/FKK threads.

Mambomike

01-10-10, 14:43

I agree and another forum (21orover.com) has some well written ones, but they could be updated with new information in a similar format here. I cannot help, except from a newbie perspective.

We would need a well written informative report for at least all the major FKK(Oase, Artemis, GT, Palace, World, Samya,?) and for Jackson to post the threads.

Hessen Bub

01-10-10, 15:22

A few years back there was some public sex but this has now been discouraged and so limited to Kino.

You can have sex wherever you like, I ha blowjobs all over the place. Sex in the relaxing area next to the massage is fun ...

No, although there are 2 bars, you cannot get basic alcohol at a reasonable price. This discourages guys from getting drunk very well.

It would cost a fortune to get drunk ;)

Not true anymore. Prices have been reduced from 25 EUR to 11 EUR per longdrink. Seems to be the influence of the new management - Palace is getting closer to Paradise. Business tariff and plans to have a list of checked-in girls on the homepage.

HB

Capt Dan

01-10-10, 17:19

Firstly, I would like to say how much I enjoy reading the reports and information contained in ISG. However, I certainly and definitely agree with Angus Magee's and Big30's suggestions for further improvement. The scene in Germany is so big by comparrison with all other European countries that it possibly merits a board of its own (as already exists for Argentina). However, if you remove all posts relating to Germany (including Partytreff activities) from ISG then you would be left with little or no activity in the European section, except for the occassional post in the UK, Spanish and Czech sections. However a reorganisation of the German section is required as too many second tier clubs are given as high a priority as the premier league clubs. Some of these second tier clubs no longer even exist or have now been renamed!

Consideration should also be given with regard to providing some of the more frequent posters the opportunity of running their own thread.

A less easy improvement, but an innovation which I have seen on some of the Dutch language forums, is where it is possible to post reports against the names of club girls, particularly with FKKGoldenTime where the ladies tend to stay put and work in that club for a long period of time. This might work for some ladies who are more or less permanently based in GoldenTime, Oase and World.

Again, I enjoy reading the contributions of fellow mongers made in ISG and would like to see the board improve further.

Samurai X

01-11-10, 03:32

This is a kind of outdate, but visited PALACE on 12-25, 28 and OASE on 12-26, 27.

Things were pretty quite on 12-25 when I arrived FRT. Took a cab and arrived at PALACE around 8PM. I tool shower and walked around a bit to check the girls. As some members here suggested before, the place after Christmas was little sad, compared to my last visit in April, but there were still some attractive girls.

Although I did not see A class girls (for me) at all, there were some attractive ones, such as Lisa (or Lena?) who said from Germany. She had dyed blond mixed with brown dirk hair, skinny, but very toned.

When I was walking around the dining area around 10PM, I saw a nice looking blonde and said hello. She said she was from Lativia, Lithoania (sorry I forgot), but too me, the best pick that day, so asked her to meet me in the back whenever she is done eating.

After 15 or so, she showed up and we went to one of the back rooms with many mirror.

Name:?

Country: Lithoania, Lativia?

170cm, medium length blonde, rather athletic, cute smile

100E for 1 hour, 2 pops

SCORE: A-

Once in a room, she was very nice. She said she was spending a long time with some other customer that day. We relaxed a bit before she started touching my dick. She did not rush and was very accomodating. While she was sucking me, I noticed she was also touching herself slowly which turned me on very much. Over all, I did DATY, 69, and after a few position, I exploded inside her, while I watched her cute face agonized. Since she was very nice and cute, I decided to go for the 2nd Road.

She said she did not work there all the time, but she was someone I would love to see again. Sorry, I do not remember her name.

Went to OASE at night of 12-26 and 27, and had a total 5 sessions with Lena, Verona (Croatia?), a skinny German blonde (she said she was from the region), a girl from Greece and a cute girl who said she was too lazy (she came to OASE whenever she need more money!)

Back to PALACE on 12-28 for 3 hrs before the flight. The lineup was a bit better than 12-25.

NAME: Line/Lena (Germany)

165cm skinny, tight ass, blonde/brown mixed.

100E for SEX with CIM

SCORE: B+

Had a session with her back in April. I usually like skinny/athletic type. She seems to be cold, but was nice enough in a room. The last time, I came all over her face, but this time, she was a bit reluctant, so I exploded in her mouth.

After sauna and shower, I was once again relaxing and watching porn, while some guys getting BJs in KINO, one Ukranian chick came up and started talking.

NAME: Never asked (Sorry), Ukrainan

170cm+, short/medum blonde, a bit round face.

100E with CIM+ cum over tities

SCORE: B+

Her looks was maybe B, but had a nice smile, so I agreed to be in her company in Kino. I had been to FKK more or less 15 times, but never had a BJ not inside of the room (or Kino). There were 2 other actions going on Kino, so we sat in the front area. She opened up my rode and gave me a nice slow HJ+BJ, as well as body kisses. It was indeed very excited and turn-on, and my dick was as hard as ever. I looked around and the other groups were gone to the rooms, and some guys looking at us, but did not care much. We decided to go to the room and continued the deeds till I finished inside her mouth and all over her tities.

After that, I took a quick shower and gone for the airport.

Over all, things were slow at FKKs, but I was not disappointed. (sorry, I had some smoke before going in, and forgot all the names.)

Cheers,

S

Findme

01-12-10, 00:06

Capt Dan

01-12-10, 01:28

Not sure revealing that you are going to post about them on the web will necessarily get you the results that you expect or hope for. I personally would keep my intention to post about these matters to myself. I have not witnessed or heard of anyone getting better service out of revealing their intention to post reports about any chic. Maybe others who have taken this approach or know of anyone who has taken this approach can advise.

CD

Its been almost 10 years since I have been to a FKK club (and that was in Weisbaden), but am going to Frankfurt this Friday for a weekend of pleasure.

I attend to visit The Palace and document everything from a newbies point of view by bringing a small notebook and keeping it with my valuables. As soon as I pay someone, I'll write their name and a few notes down. Hopefully the girls will ask what I'm doing and I will be honest, telling them its a documentary of their wonderful talents that will be recorded on the web for their future admirers.

This will serve two purposes:

1) It will contribute to this board. I know I have taken so many hints and tips from others that I feel I need to give something back.

2) The ladies will talk to others, and maybe (!) they will put forth their best effort with me.

I plan on being there this coming Saturday day and Sunday afternoon.

Wish me luck.

Fusnuts

01-12-10, 05:39

JustGotBack

01-12-10, 07:49

The worse part of a FKK is the boredom between sessions. Is it permitted to bring in an iphone, a laptop or even a book? I can see the iphone or laptop as a problem due to the camera. I think I've seen one person with a book.

Angus Magee

01-12-10, 08:41

Its been almost 10 years since I have been to a FKK club (and that was in Weisbaden), but am going to Frankfurt this Friday for a weekend of pleasure.

I attend to visit The Palace and document everything from a newbies point of view by bringing a small notebook and keeping it with my valuables. As soon as I pay someone, I'll write their name and a few notes down. Hopefully the girls will ask what I'm doing and I will be honest, telling them its a documentary of their wonderful talents that will be recorded on the web for their future admirers.

This will serve two purposes:

1) It will contribute to this board. I know I have taken so many hints and tips from others that I feel I need to give something back.

2) The ladies will talk to others, and maybe (!) they will put forth their best effort with me.

I plan on being there this coming Saturday day and Sunday afternoon.

Wish me luck.

Hi,

I think that your intention to contribute is very fine.

The bit about telling the girls is a very, very bad idea. This will not get you better service, If anything it will have the opposite effect.

Imagine if you as a boss in a workplace told your workers that you were bringing in observers to watch their performance & report back to management. Do you think this would improve the work force? It might get them to mechanically do their jobs better-more "to the letter". But it would devastate moral, cause huge resentment and stifle creativity.

The same with letting the girls know that you are sizing them up for a report. The girls know that we discuss things here and do not like it. Please do not remind them of the fact blatantly. You will do yourself and the board a disservice.

Personally I do feel some sympathy with the girls' dislike of our reviewing them. Some guys are not so sensitive and (IMO) write very slanted reviews. But! this is the price paid for having freedom of communication & information. As a reader you also have to learn to gauge a review's level of objectivity.

I do not especially hide the fact that I write here. But I also do not overtly mention it to the girls. If a favorite girl asked, I would tell the truth. Other than that, there is no need to say anything. This board is for the men.

Plover 23

01-12-10, 09:19

The worse part of a FKK is the boredom between sessions.

I thought that was the second best part!

I have cherished memories of long relaxed days spent watching the procession of beauties whilst reclining on a sofa at GT, or around the pool at World. The old hamam at Palace was good for that too. Strangely enough there are days that I remember for the atmosphere between sessions even though I have forgotten which girls I did on the day.

Some clubs just have better facilities to relax without feeling that you should be off to your next session. World is better to hang out in than Oase or Palace.

Why don't you take the Sunday papers and try to read them on one of the loungers around the pool at World, until you are too distracted to continue!

To give you a serious answer, I have seen many people using laptops (to write their reviews?) at GT and World, but not noticed this at Oase or Palace. Give a try.

I prefer the local scenery myself.

Have fun.
PL

Hessen Bub

01-12-10, 10:45

Its been almost 10 years since I have been to a FKK club (and that was in Weisbaden),

FKK in Wiesbaden? Where the hell was that?

Books are not a problem, you can bring them to any club.

Phones are not allowed, Palace and World are quite strict about it, even outside, Oase staff doesn't really seem to care.

Laptops you can use downstairs in World an in the relaxing/reading area close the massage at Palace. Girls don't like it, but it is allowed.

HB

Big30

01-12-10, 11:03

FKK in Wiesbaden? Where the hell was that?

HB

In Weisbaden!

Big30
(Tomorrow I will write a report about the cell-phone and laptop policy in the clubs in NRW and Hessen)

Findme

01-12-10, 15:35

Hi,

I think that your intention to contribute is very fine.

The bit about telling the girls is a very, very bad idea.I see your point. I won't let it be known. However, I have to write things down. 20 years ago (heck, even 10), I could remember anything. Now I'm lucky to remember to put on clothes in the morning.

Yes, there used to be a FKK Club in Wiesbaden about 10 years ago. I remember it was by the Wal-mart or K-mart. I was 28 at the time and thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, even though it seems it was much quieter and had less girls (only 5 or 6 at time). Very laid back place, but I guess it was because it was in sleepy ole Wiesbaden.

Angus Magee

01-12-10, 20:20

I see your point. I won't let it be known. However, I have to write things down. 20 years ago (heck, even 10), I could remember anything. Now I'm lucky to remember to put on clothes in the morning.

Nothing wrong with writing things down. I also will sometimes jot down a girl's name for my review later. But I do it discretely in the locker room after the session.

I do not mean to be too harsh about this or anything, just that I really do think that the board should remain as low profile as possible at the clubs.

Girls can get very funny about reviews. In their minds I think they see what we do in the rooms as very private. Even although they do this private thing over & over again every night with various men from whom they accept cash.

Female logic can be very twisted.

Hessen Bub

01-13-10, 00:02

In Weisbaden!

Depp! ;)

I wanted to know the name of the FKK-club in Wiesbaden as I have never heard of any club there.

HB

Findme

01-14-10, 18:04

I wanted to know the name of the FKK-club in Wiesbaden as I have never heard of any club there.In 2000, I spent a couple of months in Wiesbaden and I used to frequent a FKK club over by the Wal-mart or K-mart (whichever. I forget).

I cant find it online, so I assume its gone now.

M P Lurker

01-15-10, 02:23

You can have sex wherever you like, I ha blowjobs all over the place. Sex in the relaxing area next to the massage is fun ...

Not true anymore. Prices have been reduced from 25 EUR to 11 EUR per longdrink. Seems to be the influence of the new management - Palace is getting closer to Paradise. Business tariff and plans to have a list of checked-in girls on the homepage.

HB
O.K. In practice, i haven't seen any FS in the lounge for some time (thoughout 2009). As Bill Clinton once said, "I didn't know a BJ was sex!" :D

The relax area is not intended for sex and could irritate other guests looking for some peace and quiet.
Why is having sex there fun rather than using the kino or main lounge? Wishing to disturb those trying to nap?
:(

Suller Joe

01-15-10, 02:28

Hessen Bub

01-15-10, 09:15

Wishing to disturb those trying to nap?

Most guys were not really disturbed when I had a nice and slow blowjob in that area. OK, they couldn't keep their eyes closed - but who cares. ;)

HB

Syzygies

01-15-10, 11:23

An absolute stunner. Real D's, slim and does most things. Probably my best session ever. Great BJ & fucking. I came really hard.

Wish I would have asked for her email or cellphone as I'd like to plan another session with her. If some of you see her the following days, please ask about her schedule (which days & time of day) & let me know via PM or post.

I am curious about thai Bee, but never saw her. When do you typically see her around?Yes there is no doubt Alice is stunning (like Halle Berry). However her BJ was too toothy and strong for me. Painful more than sexy for me. She will suit some customers but she is not massively popular for some reason. Her looks are better than her performance, perhaps.

Bee is currently on holidays I believe till February.

Now here is a super performer. Normally she works days Thu to Sat. She may stay for some of the evening, Thu, Fri.

Sebastiane

01-15-10, 18:45

What's it like on palace this evening?

Worth a visit?

Hessen Bub

01-16-10, 11:13

The "Heimtextil" fair/exhibition is still on. So after 9/10pm it will get crowded. Line up is pretty good for me, other's still say it is to quiet.

HB

Sebastiane

01-17-10, 01:07

Went to palace. It was v busy with loads of guys because of the fair. More girls than normal but not enough and not many new faces. So I went with the Romanian camilla who I've been with before and she usually gives good service. This time after waiting for twenty muns for a free room we were having a good time but she said it was a 100 per half hour as shed been kissing me deep and spitting in my mouth on request. She told me while I was banging her and close to coming. At that moment she g looks at her watch and goes oh it's an hour now if you carry on it'll be another 50! What's a man suppose to do? I was feeling horny as he'll and came a few minutes later. Inside seething at the rip off I blamed myself but am a v polite guy. After some post coital chat we left the room and I paid her. I blame myself because I'm experienced enough not to get ripped like this. Still it's the first time in two years I felt I didn't get my moneys worth. Since when has French kissing been an extra?

I think I'm crossing her off my list even tho she is v pretty. I'm not racist but it seems the Romanians are incresingly trying to get away with whatever they can. It's a real shame because the best girls I've ever had have both been Romanian but alas they both left.

Later I went with chantelle a blonde german with an incredible dancers body. She was honest and open upfront about what she doesn't do and really put her body and soul into it. Sadlyi was exhausted by my previous session and wasn't able to stay hard long enough to come again. Bless the Germans they all seem to really give excellent service.

Overall a disappointing night on balance although chantelle is a positive.

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Findme

01-17-10, 17:06

Ok, so here is my travelogue / FKK Palace review for the weekend of January 15, 2010.

Its been about ten years since I have been to an FKK type club, and I saw an American Airlines special for roundtrip airfare between Dallas and Frankfurt (nonstop!) for about $500. Thats about 11, 000 airmails, and I couldn't resist that price. The downside was that I would be leaving Friday afternoon and coming back Monday morning.

In order to maximize my time, I wanted to sleep on the plane and be refreshed for the 7:00am arrival. A friend gave me some Ambien, and since I have never taken anything more powerful then a Tylenol PM as a sleep aid, I was nervous. Well, I swallowed a pill as soon as the plane left the ground and the next thing I remember we are over Ireland. But I'm still sleepy, so besides losing 7hrs of my life that I won't get back, the Ambien didn't work. The cab to the Hilton was 30 Euro, and since my room was ready that early, I took a nap until 11:00am.

The subway entrance is right by the Hilton, so I decided to take that to The Palace instead of a taxi. I never have taken the Frankfurt subway system, and I don't speak German whatsoever, but I noticed on the map that there is a station called Industriehof on Konigsberger, which is the same street as The Palace. I purchased a subway ticket for 1. 5 Euro, and I'm glad I did, because I was asked for my ticket on the train, and its apparently a 40 Euro fine if you don't have one.

Exiting the Industriehof station, I saw an address on a building that said "1 Konigsberger", so I walked past it until I saw the signs for the Palace, which is at 13 Konigsberger. I walked in, paid the entrance fee, and the attendant asked if I had been there before. I thought I was familiar with The Palace because I have faithfully read every review on this forum, so I lied and said yes. She gave me keys to my locker and I then proceeded into the girls locker room, thereby letting everyone know I didn't know my ass from my face.

After being shown the correct locker room, I showered, put on a towel, and to the bar in the main area. There were maybe 15 guys there, and most of them were wearing robes, not towels. The 15 or so girls that I saw were wearing very little to just a see through scarf around their waist. I started talking to the bartender, Miriam, who was quite friendly. About every 10 minutes, someone would come up to me, ask my name, and proposition me. Well, that doesn't do it for me. They have to work harder and at least *try* to be friendly. I asked Miriam if there were any nice girls there and she kind of pointed to Xandria, a german 5'4 blonde with see cups, and about 29yrs old. Xandria was indeed friendly, and we sat at the bar for talking for about an hour before moving to the Kino, where we petted, hugged, kissed, and talked for another 30 minutes. Next, we went to a room and she gave me a slow and gentle BBBJ. I think she wanted me to CIM, but I asked for a condom and we did cowgirl and missionary before I finished. Time: 40 minutes in the room, total time spent with me: 2hr 10 min. Cost: 100 Euro. Score: A+

I got to meet the famous Nicolleta, and she seemed to be in high demand. I found a guy that had just been with her and he could stop singing her praises. She came over to me and was also friendly, not trying to sell herself. I didn't go with her because I like blonde, voluptuous women with nice sized breasts. Nicoletta was blonde but was too skinny for me and had A cups.

I spied a taller blonde with nice breasts sitting alone, and walked up to her. She was spanish and her name started with the letter "M". I told her I only had 50 Euro left and asked if she was interested. She agreed and we went straight to a room. She gave me a BBBJ, reverse cowgirl, cowgirl, and missionary. I couldn't finish, and I think it was due to the jet lag. So I paid her and left. Time: 20 minutes, Cost: 50 Euro, Score: be (I get an F).

Going back via subway was harder, and not only did I take the wrong train, I rode it to the end of the line, where I found myself the only rider and we were stopped somewhere in a dark tunnel with no platform. After 15 minutes a worker was walking outside and saw me. He came in and said to wait another 15 minutes, and that the train would be starting its run again.

I finally got back to the Hilton, had dinner, and went to the Executive Lounge on the 11th floor. Since I'm a Hilton Diamond member, I have access to the lounges, where they have free food, drinks, and alcohol all day and evening. TIP: no one ever asked me my room number or proof that I could be there. It seemed that anyone could go up there and get free booze anytime they wanted.

It was now about 8:00pm, and I wanted some coffee before going back to my room and going to bed, so I went the the "coffee" machine and pressed the button. Not a lot came out, so I pressed it a total of 3 times to fill my cup. It seemed kind of strong, so I added sugar and drank it anyway. Well, it wasn't coffee. Every push of the button made a 2x expresso shot!

GOOD GOD! The caffeine hit me and trying to sleep after that is like trying to relax after smoking crack! I lied in bed from 8:30pm to 6:00am, unable to sleep. It was terrible.

Its now Sunday afternoon as I write this, and am debating whether to go back to The Palace. Almost everything is closed, and earlier I took a walk around the main train station where the RLD is. Some young girl with pretty eyes and open sores all over her face asked me if I wanted a blow job. I politely declined. The Palace is so much nicer than the RLD and the street action.

If I go back tonight, I'll post again. This time it will be more or a report and less of a travelogue.

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Smuler

01-18-10, 13:53

She gave me keys to my locker and I then proceeded into the girls locker room, thereby letting everyone know I didn't know my ass from my face.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.This made me laugh

Thanks for posting it

Best Regards,

Smuler

Lifes ADream

01-18-10, 22:46

Arrived near noon and was pleasantly surprised and the quantity and quality of girls present. The sauna had an electrical problem early on but they quickly brought in an electrician to fix it otherwise everything else worked perfectly, they even had warm showers. Did not feel too much like going with anyone for quite a while even though there were quite a few requests, somehow though very few asked more than once despite it being quite a slow day. This being said, it seemed like Natasha, a blond small breasted girl who I had seen during previous visits had set her mind on me as she regularly hunted me down. Eventually she got the better of me and off we went to a room for some DATY, decent BBJ and an OK lay. Nothing stellar but not bad either. Otherwise I turned Luna down twice and now regret it a bit but in the end was running out of time as I had a train home to catch. Hopefully she'll still e there next time I go.

Ortos

01-19-10, 14:22

Arrived near noon and was pleasantly surprised and the quantity and quality of girls present.

This is funny, because...

...I also visited Palace last Sunday. But I arrived late, having played in a poker tournament in Wiesbaden that same night (I was lucky, I came in 5th and cashed for a few hundred euros!). So when I walked into Palace, after several months absence, I was full of anticipation for a decent line-up, despite it being 12.30 on a Sunday night!

I was distinctly UN-impressed with what I found, esp in comparison to Oase and World, both of which I had visited on previous nights. Really, I struggled to find decent zimmer-mates, although in all honesty there were some lookers, but the attitudes and vibes they emitted did not suggest decent sessions. Sure you never know for sure unless you try, but my radar told me each time I tried to get close to them, back off and try another.

I only recognised a few girls from my frequent visits to Palace last year: The sharkish-petite Denisa (probably Romanian, though she claims Moldova) walking around with her nose high in the air...forget about it! And the also petite, though very business-vibe Chinese Tan. Also present was the big-chested Natasha, who never interests me...Otherwise, from the 25-30 other girls present, I found most to be new. I was looking for the Turkish Gulcan, suggested to me by EL, and a couple of others, but no luck.

I finally settled for a darkish, exotic looking girl from Cuba, Sophia. In the end a pretty good session, featuring bbbj action that was upper echelon! She did try to feed me the "Dfk is extra" line, but I told her it would be "asta-la-vista, baby" if she really stood her ground on that, and in the end she backed off a bit and kissed for the regular price, but I could tell her heart was not in it. But she made up for that with superb satin-mouth bbbj activity, so I left a happy camper...

Bottom line for me: Yes, I came late on a Sunday night, given the talent and service levels I found prevailing at the other two clubs, I think Palace is the bottom choice for a Sunday night. However, I probably should come back on a Friday or Saturday night to get a true reflection of line-up here right now...

Ortos

Basketcase

01-19-10, 22:33

This is funny, because...

I was distinctly UN-impressed with what I found, esp in comparison to Oase and World, both of which I had visited on previous nights. Really, I struggled to find decent zimmer-mates, although in all honesty there were some lookers, but the attitudes and vibes they emitted did not suggest decent sessions. Sure you never know for sure unless you try, but my radar told me each time I tried to get close to them, back off and try another. Dear Ortos,

Thank you for the warning on Palace. I no go back there since me and my friends all felt ripped off when we last visited. I also went with some very experienced friends but that did not help us get "sharked". Seems the bad vibe is still there amongst the girls.

M P Lurker

01-20-10, 05:09

This is funny, because...

...I also visited Palace last Sunday. But I arrived late, having played in a poker tournament in Wiesbaden that same night (I was lucky, I came in 5th and cashed for a few hundred euros!). So when I walked into Palace, after several months absence, I was full of anticipation for a decent line-up, despite it being 12.30 on a Sunday night!

I don't believe its a good idea to arrive late on any night. Girls are getting tired and heading towards quick turnover mode. Its way better early in the evening when customer numbers are low.

Excess

01-20-10, 10:26

Glad to hear and read that Ortos is faithfully carrying out his inspection duties in FFM with the ups and downs that it brings. And a poker game to boot.

Question in this reader`s mind is, Will Ortos be venturing up the road and reporting on some NRW venues this trip ?

Enjoy, E.

J Boom

01-25-10, 00:04

Finally got to post my long overdue report from my last visit to Palace.

Girls I sessioned with:

Angelina. One of my must do's every time I visit. Another excellent session that ended with CIM.

Repeat: always

Marina (Cuba). A great BBBJ and very energetic sex in mulitple positions.

Repeat: yes

Tan. I didn't really want this session but unfortunately my member decided he still had life in him and its hard to say no when she can feel the flag pole being raised. Once in the room the first thing she tried charging 100 euros for a 'special' session. Told her no, just want normal for 50. Now I wish I had turned around and run for my life, what followed was the most painful BBBJ I have ever had, it was nothing but teeth. It only lasted for about 2-3 minutes before she said now we have sex, but I was never so happy to be rushed as I was then. The sex was as less painful than the BJ but not enjoyable. After 3 positions, tired of being rushed and still in agony I told her I had finished and ended the session.

Repeat: NEVER

Alice (Budapest). Tried to upsell once we entered the room but once I made it clear what I wanted everything was great. A really good session but she nearly ruined it with the upselling.

Repeat: yes

Patricia (Koln). Physically she is not my type but her attitude and good reports here made me go for it. Great GFE, and a very good session.

Repeat: maybe, despite the great service, physically she is not my type so the jury's still out on this one

Overall it was another enjoyable visit to Palace, despite being injured from a shark bite. But its the first time I've been bitten and if I can have as many good sessions before I'm bitten again then I'll be a happy man.

Rwaters

01-25-10, 18:30

According to their website, Palace is having their 6 year anniversary Party on Friday February 5 at 8 PM. Which may be of interest for anybody who is in the area on such date.

Vito Corleone

01-26-10, 01:31

Alice (Budapest). Tried to upsell once we entered the room but once I made it clear what I wanted everything was great. A really good session but she nearly ruined it with the upselling.

Did Alice start complaining after 20 minutes? Upselling did not bother me, but basically stoping after 20 min did. She only agreed to give a bj when I told her I would pop in her mouth. After 8 min of acting like I was about to pop, I got up & put on my robe. She was too shocked to get really pissed.

She positions her bod for some really good visuals during sex, but lacks stamina. Nice looking babe with a tight toned bod.

J Boom

01-26-10, 11:45

Did Alice start complaining after 20 minutes? Upselling did not bother me, but basically stoping after 20 min did.No, once I had stopped the initial attempts to upsell everything was great after that. I told her I don't plan my sessions before they start, so I might decide half way through I want an extra and then I'll tell her, maybe the thought of trying to coax an extra out of me helped.

After 8 min of acting like I was about to pop, I got up & put on my roB. She was too shocked to get really pissed.Brilliant, I'll have to remember this tactic for future.

She positions her bod for some really good visuals during sex, but lacks stamina. Nice looking babe with a tight toned bod.She sure is a beautiful girl and her body is amazing.

Ortos

01-26-10, 16:21

Bottom line for me: Yes, I came late on a Sunday night, given the talent and service levels I found prevailing at the other two clubs, I think Palace is the bottom choice for a Sunday night. However, I probably should come back on a Friday or Saturday night to get a true reflection of line-up here right now.

OrtosWell, in fact, I went back to Palace during prime-time, last Saturday night in the company of EL. I don't think it was his being there that produced this result but: WOW!!! WAFLU! (What a fucking line up!!) Really, I was staggered by the extensively good selection and the very positive vibe that Palace offered. I've been going to these clubs in Hessen and (less frequently, but still often enough) to GT, and I would have to say that the line-up at Palace this past weekend was probably the best one I've seen in any club for many months. In a word I was blown away.

And, to put that last comment in some perspective, I am no stark newbie that would be blown away by any normal line-up. I am a jaded, stuck-up, hard-to-please, fkk-snob. But Palace had talent oozing out of every corner. There were old guard girls like Lina (Cz), but also dozens and dozens of fairly new arrivals to Palace, either in the form of new girls to the fkk-scene or (and this I encountered alot) girls from other clubs trying their luck at Palace.
I met two or three girls who claimed to normally work at clubs in Stuttgart area (Safari and Paradise) and even a couple from LR and GT.

There were sharks and top-notch GFE providers side-by-side (you just had to winnow them out and separate the wheat from the chaff by keen observations, GFE-radar, and sensitive to the good/bad vibes the girls give out.). There were painted up, bolt-on bleached blondes out of Playboy or Penthouse pages, but also lots of lower-shelf, so-called "B-team looks" that I and EL love, because they often provide such great service in the room. There were young ones and MILFs too. This line-up had it all and very ethnically diverse. Several Cubans, including this slightly chubby but very pretty and sexy chocolate girl with huge natural tits and super curves (forgot her name, but she got EL thinking...), lots of new Hungarians, plus a bevy of German girls.

To my delight, I ran into a girl I'd known from Palace over the years and has always been one of my favourites: Louisa. She still looks good to me, though we all must sacrifice something to the years, and I had a top re-union sex session with her! I would always repeat with this girl...because we have chemistry. (Chemistry: That is the defining variable in every successfull fkk session and why some guys have great sessions with a girl, while others find the same one a dud or disappointing...)

Later in the night, I was lucky to end up in a long flirt with a staggeringly (to me) good looking, lean and leggy brunette from Romania named Kelly. I ended up in the room with her first for just 30mins, but quickly extended to one hour once I experienced first hand her skills at the various erotic activities, esp her DFK and top-notch bbbj. But it was her gentle and sincere attitude towards me and the session plus her physical characteristics that really turned me into a devotee, and quite fast. I ended up cancelling my plans to go to Oase the next day, just to further explore the erotic vibe first established during our debut session. And it was well worth it for me, despite the super selection of other girls the club offered.

Kelly (Ro) told me she just started at Palace a few days ago (by now perhaps a week ago) and that previously she had been an established act at GT. She said her name there was Lorena (or something similar), I believe. Interestingly she told me quite a bit about what it is like for a girl to work at GT and it was NOT all very favourable. I don't want to get into too much detail, but she did relate how the GT management "did not accept very well" when a girl might refuse or decline to go with a specific guest; i.e. there was pressure from the management towards the girls not to refuse male guests, regardless of the reason. All in all, she thought GT was an extremely stressfull place for a girl to work, and that's why she just couldn't take it any longer.

How was Palace by comparison? "Oh, this club is so much mellower, much more laid back and more relaxing. But: You make more money at GT." So, it's a trade-off between more money and a better working environment.

I have to say, myself, --and EL or anybody else who was there during last weekend can chime in too-- that I did in fact find Palace to have a much more laid-back and mellow atmosphere than World or even Oase. I left completely delighted by my visit and this was followed up by an equally satisfying visit the very next afternoon-early evening. Between my various visits to the room with this dark-tanned/dark-skinned leggy beauty, I was able to observe the illustrious EL in action as he lured girls of various types to his lair in the Palace Kino for his own purposes...He was able to tell me a couple of new discoveries including a hot, young Hungarian arrival named Natasha and a buxom, but very sweet Greek lass named Sissi. I had a long run-in with this Sissi myself in the Kino when I was recovering between sessions and I picked up on a tremendous erotic vibe from this girl and had I not been otherwise engaged (read "obsessed") with another girl, I certainly would have given her a spin. (I did check her out and she is 100% Greek, not a Bg or Ro imposter.)

Well, that's all I've got to say now: That my impression late the previous Sunday night was completely contradicted by my visit to the club a few days later. And the line-up at Palace was easily the best one I saw at any of the clubs I visited (Oase, World, GT and LR), not to say that those clubs had bad line-ups at all. Indeed those other clubs offered very good/great selections. It's just that Palace was off the charts that night. Even guys like BC, should lift their boycott of Palace and have another look. All these clubs change from week to week, if not day to day. You just have to keep trying them...

Ortos

J Boom

01-26-10, 20:20

According to their website, Palace is having their 6 year anniversary Party on Friday February 5 at 8 PM. Which may be of interest for anybody who is in the area on such date.Sounds interesting, I'll be in Frankfurt at the time so I'll have to try and check it out.

Basketcase

01-27-10, 01:40

Even guys like BC, should lift their boycott of Palace and have another look. All these clubs change from week to week, if not day to day. You just have to keep trying them...
Hi Ortos,

Nice catching up with you the other day in that little place in Pohlheim. Yes, I recall a Lorena (.Ro) from Golden Time. She is nice. She was recommended to me by another Romanian girl at Golden Time.

I just caught up with Ekliges Lauren on his travels and he has made his case to me to come back to Palace to check it out. I asked for news of my dirty little minx Angelina (.cz), Shayenne (.de), Lena (.de), Lina (.cz), Gina (.cz) but he could not say. I know Mercedes (Eqypt) has moved to Palace from Oase and a few other ex Oase girls too.

I will put it under consideration. There is a messe on this weekend so it may be a bit packed.

Big30

01-27-10, 02:07

You are welcome...but why the hell do you quote my entire post????

You are so right! This happens so often a full quote where even a quote is not relevant since the reaction relates to the message before. Only use the quote button when it makes sense.

I would not call it misuse but more not being familiar with basic board functionality.

Thxs for informing that Lorena now is in Palace. I put the info on the Dutch board because I knew she had a lot of fans in GT!

Big30

Suller Joe

01-27-10, 04:35

Anyone ever had success calling the club to ask for the schedule of one of the ladies. Or just to ask if she is working "right now"?

(Next time I'll ask for cell#/email)

Syzygies

01-27-10, 07:44

I am curious about thai Bee, but never saw her. When do you typically see her around?Heard a rumour from a very reliable source that Bee will return this week (days Thu-Sat).

But I don't think its possible to get girl schedules in general as most girls are unrealiable. On the other hand some girls like Angelina seem to be nearly always there (evenings).

Syzygies

01-27-10, 07:49

Anyone ever had success calling the club to ask for the schedule of one of the ladies. Or just to ask if she is working "right now"?

(Next time I'll ask for cell#/email)Some girls (who have no boyfriend that will be upset) give out there special cell number to trusted customers so you can check when they will be working. I have numbers of 3 girls. But this is not normal and management couldn't give these out nor could I.

Big30

01-27-10, 08:34

Anyone ever had success calling the club to ask for the schedule of one of the ladies. Or just to ask if she is working "right now"?

(Next time I'll ask for cell#/email)

No problem just call and ask! But do not forget in most Clubs they only speak German :-)!

Big30

Basketcase

01-27-10, 08:52

Anyone ever had success calling the club to ask for the schedule of one of the ladies. Or just to ask if she is working "right now"?

(Next time I'll ask for cell#/email)You only need to call the club and ask them politely who is on working. They will tell you what they know or are willing to tell you.

My friends have had mixed success with calling the club. Sometime he ask if Alicia working and he get told yes she there and when he go to club if not see Alicia and when he go ask Reception where is Alicia they work out he was the caller and Reception say oh we thought you said Elisa. Same problem with all the Evas, Avas, Ewas at World. Hahaha.

Then sometimes friends when they call the club they find that maybe 67% of the time the Reception is correct. He tell me that two out of three times he finds the girl he want is in the club. He not sure if Reception justs say yes since they know or it was random fluke that she was there and Reception just say yes anyway. Hahaha.

Maybe if you call and sit on phone and ask for entire day's program of girls from club. Hahaha.

Ortos

01-27-10, 09:04

I just caught up with Ekliges Lauren on his travels and he has made his case to me to come back to Palace to check it out. I asked for news of my dirty little minx Angelina (.cz), Shayenne (.de), Lena (.de), Lina (.cz), Gina (.cz) but he could not say. I know Mercedes (Eqypt) has moved to Palace from Oase and a few other ex Oase girls too.Yes, EL actually had a session with Mercedes, the curvy Egyptian girl now at Palace from Oase. There was no sign of any of the Cz or De girls you mention, save Lina (Cz). On Sunday we did meet an ex-Oase girl, Amanda (Hu), who I remember seeing at Oase for years, though she claimed to have been in Palace for almost two years.

Eddie123

01-27-10, 17:29

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Super Cum 500

01-27-10, 17:32

Ortos,

So if I'm making a one off lifetime special trip to Germany for FKK (will not be doing this often)

I should go on a Fri/Sat night rather than weekday?

Ortos

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Ortos

01-27-10, 21:04

Ortos,

So if I'm making a one off lifetime special trip to Germany for FKK (will not be doing this often)

I should go on a Fri/Sat night rather than weekday?My friend,

Certainly current trends lean towards the clubs having the best line-ups during Fri/Sat nights. For sure there will be more girls and several so-called "stars" during weekends. Bear in mind also that the clubs tend to get more crowded during weekend nights too. But I would certainly suggest weekends for the best action vs the weekdays, generally. However, if you find a girl or girls who are everyday at the club, then on weekdays, when it is distinctly more quiet in terms of male traffic at the clubs, you can often get alot more free couch time and a generally more relaxed approach to the session than during the hectic Fri/Sat rushes. So there are pluses on any day you visit...

Ortos

Ozzy Ozzman

01-27-10, 23:29

I just caught up with Ekliges Lauren on his travels and he has made his case to me to come back to Palace to check it out. I asked for news of my dirty little minx Angelina (.cz), Shayenne (.de), Lena (.de), Lina (.cz), Gina (.cz) but he could not say. I know Mercedes (Eqypt) has moved to Palace from Oase and a few other ex Oase girls too.BC,

All those Czech girls you mention were at Palace less than two weeks ago. Gina may be going home for a short while around the end of this month, but other than that you will usually find them in attendance.

OO

Vompat

02-03-10, 07:29

Got in about 10 pm Sunday night, was waiting for too many people and difficulties to find the best gilrs free.

It was quite busy, but many girls as well and the line up was fantastic, no difficulties to find what I was looking for.

Had first Marina from Thailand, I think she is only half thai, very curvey body and bigger natural tits that I have seen thais having. Very much GFE, would repeat anytime.

After a break had a another Marina from Poland, beautyful blond, bit mechanical.

Went back next day, took advantage of their 2 hours/50 € special. Had only time for a one session, with Linda from Prague, she is gorgoues, tall brunette, but very cold in the room, would not repeat.

After I found Nicole from Italy, have had her before, if I found her earlier, would have had her.

Rwaters

02-05-10, 02:03

Went to Palace. Had around 40 girls and was not that busy. Stayed from 5PM until midnight.

I found the girls very transactional if that makes sense.

There were two blondes I liked. I started talking with them. They pushed for the room in 2 minutes. I told them I wanted to spend some time talking-They walked away fairly quickly.

Was approached by many. I found that the best were not going after guys. I saw guys going in and coming out after 10 minutes. It was the antithesis of GFE. I was speaking with some guys. Many of these girls are trying to do the quick 5 minute program. Thus, I was very suspicious.

At one point I was double teamed by a German pair. They brought me into back room and put the hard pressure on me to have them both. I was only interested in one of them. She was very attractive.

I had a session with one of them-I forgot her name-Sorry (so many names through the day). Attractive with long hair, tall. Very good body. In the room her technique was awful. Felt like she was a clock watcher.

Later I had my eye on this incredibly thin blonde girl with medium length hair. She was doing some programs but not approaching any guys. Somebody told me she does not approach. She did a dance on stage. Unbelievable. Incredibly flexible and great stage performance. She was aware of my watching and she approached me and was friendly. She is from Moldavia. So, I took her to the room-I knew that if I spent more than 5 minutes talking she would walk but I felt she was friendly enough. My instinct was correct and she was really good. I liked her. Very good performer and sooo much better than my first. Did not feel she was a clock watcher which I am surprised as she had many admirers. I think her name was Eliza.

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Rwaters

02-05-10, 02:13

I think the first girl in my report was Elizabeth-the bad performer.

THe two that I liked in quality but declined due to their "short interview" were Sarah from Germany-Hamburg. A small blonde german and the other was a blonde from Hungary who looked exactly like a porn star and is very visible walking around all the time.

So, I can agree with many board members that these girls are predatory. Tomorrow I will go to Oase.

Ortos

02-05-10, 08:26

THe two that I liked in quality but declined due to their "short interview" were Sarah from Germany-Hamburg. A small blonde german and the other was a blonde from Hungary who looked exactly like a porn star and is very visible walking around all the time.

So, I can agree with many board members that these girls are predatory. Tomorrow I will go to Oase.

I can confirm that Palace has the reputation you portray as a club with only predatory or "transactional" girls. I can also confirm, by extensive first-hand experience, that NOT all the girls in Palace actually fit this bill; but usually the girls that inexperienced Palace visitors end up in the room with DO fit this bill. For the xxxxth time: It is not the club, but the girls one happens to select/get selected by that are a let down in this department. You will find the same "transactional" or "predatory" type of girls in ANY club (including e.g. Oase/World/GT/Artemis, etc.) you visit. (For example: see very recent discussion of Lucia from Romania on the Oase thread.)

You will also find a host of "GFE-providers" or whatever other type you fancy in ANY club (including e.g. Palace/Oase/World/Artemis, etc.) you visit. Thus. when I was in Palace recently, I found lots of girls who would offer a GFE, just as my radar picked up negative vibes/red flags form an equal number of girls on the same night. Our job is to thresh all the different types out during our visits...

As for some of the names you list: I know it can be difficult to keep names of girls straight, esp. as one might meet 40+ girls in a short space of time (multiply this factor by as many clubs as you visit within successive days of clubbing and you've got a complex task to remember all the names of all the girls you talk to...but we should at least aspire to remember the correct names of the girls we actually SESSION with, right?).

Your "Sarah" from Hamburg, sounds a hell of alot like Sophie. Your blonde Hungarian, I wonder, is not in fact the Natasha that EL tested and gave a good thumb's up to during his recent visits? And the flexible, ultra-thin blonde dancer you call "Elisa" sounds almost exactly like the famous Denisa, who, though she claims to be Moldovan is actually from Romania.

Enjoy you trip to Oase, but do watch out for some of the "predatory" types there...and don't miss out on the many various superb choices of top preformers at BHH, just like in all the other clubs you might visit. Looking forward to the report, with hopefully, alot of specific names!

Thanks for all,

Ortos

Basketcase

02-05-10, 09:01

Went to Palace. Had around 40 girls and was not that busy. Stayed from 5PM until midnight.

I found the girls very transactional if that makes sense.

.... They pushed for the room in 2 minutes. I told them I wanted to spend some time talking-They walked away fairly quickly.

Was approached by many. I found that the best were not going after guys. I saw guys going in and coming out after 10 minutes. It was the antithesis of GFE. I was speaking with some guys. Many of these girls are trying to do the quick 5 minute program. Thus, I was very suspicious.

Your feeling at Palace of how transactional the girls are is what I feel and what Cletus Van Damme feels and maybe one or two others on this board feel. Most guys here on the ISG do not seem to have this problem and can cut through all the processing girls like Ortos, Hessen Bub, Sybarite, Ekliges Lauren, Vito Corleone, Qubei, to name just a few. These guys have honed skills that one or two of us do not have and are immune to the felling of being the prey for these hunter predator girls. I cannot do it so I stay with Oase and World when I am in Hessen. I guess I am not good enough at this FKK game.

I forgot her name-Sorry (so many names through the day).

It is a chore and takes a use of the mind, but you do get used to remembering people's names. You just need a hook.

Question: I thought you were going to Oase on Thursday, 4 Feb 2010?

Yogi-Bear

02-05-10, 09:52

I've written here quite often about my experiences at Palace and unfortunately the list with negative points is growing.
I agree to basketcase or rwaters.
During the last years when I have a stopover in Frankfurt I'm going to Palace.
Unfortunately it is getting very mechanical there.
Girls try to get you at the room very soon and there doing a mechanical job as quick as possible.
No more place for jokes, fun, relaxing talks and sexual games (if you're not willing to pay 1h).
Bad thing too is that the extra list is growing and growing and the chicas try to sell at least 1 extra.
Nowadays you even have to pay for cuming on her tits!
I don't understand that.

When I'm there I try to find a girl which is not working for already a long time there.
Usually they are nicer and are giving a better service in GFE style.
At least this is my impression.

Why I'm still visiting Palace?
Cause I'm not so often in Frankfurt and for me it is located perfectly.
With the hotel around the corner and close to the airport it couldn't be better.
But from the quality of the service there are much better places around the world and it isn't like the Palace like some 3-4 years ago.

Rwaters

02-05-10, 10:08

Bc

You are a man with strong memory for details and some sophisticated analysis. So I will shed some light on my thinking.

Decided against Oase on Thursday. As it was my first day, I did not want the Tag Dessous. I was flying in from a very conservative culture and wanted to see naked women.

My original plan was to get to Palace on Friday for their party. After further reflection, as the place had a predatory reputation, I envisioned the party would have the women in an ultra predatory state of mind in order to maximize income (they see us as human ATM's at that place). So, I changed my plans at last minute.

Working backwards, as I was here on a Sunday, I decided Oase was optimum choice for Sunday. Saturday had to be Faschings party at World. I knew I had to go to Oase two times to fully discover lineup (as Sunday would not do it justice). So I was going either Thursday or Friday. But cancelled Oase for Thursday for reasons stated above.

Met some interesting characters. One guy who walked in with me was an FKK newbie. Told him I would catch up with him in a few minutes after I had a bite. Saw him 20 minutes later. Upon his first reconnaisance of the club, he walked into TV Room and was basically attacked by an Egyptian woman. He was going at it within a minute. He was fresh kill. Basically, he took no more than 30 steps before he was having a session. Did not even make it to a zimmer.

Also hung with a club regular who had 8 sessions that day-he supplied me with valuable intel.

BC-I am taking yours advice by staying at Mercure in Friedrischsdorf. Had exhaustion due to a very long travel and time change on my first day, so my memory was fuzzy with names. Will make better effort.

Angus Magee

02-05-10, 10:38

This is perhaps a bit more of a philosophical posting. But as I see it, it all depends upon how you like to do things. Many of the guys who read & post here (mostly read) want a club full of compliant top performers who will do what they want, how they want it and ask for no more than the minimum fee.

If you find such a club please do tell me so that I can avoid it.

A short bit of Angus' history. When I was a much younger man I was wild about windsurfing. I lived at the time in Southern Ontario. My regular haunts were Lake Ontario, Lake Simco and Georgian Bay. All large bodies of water with great wind & wave patterns-in early spring & late fall.

So I got really good in extreme conditions. At times I literally found myself dodging ice flows in full dry suit, gloves & booties.

Fun? Hell yeah!

Now I do not say to purposely go out there to the club and look for the predatory girls whose sole goal is to relieve you of your hard earned euros. But in any good club they do exist. In a club like Palace (to which i have never been but I do feel it is a very similar club to Artemis at least in the type of girl it attracts) there will always be these predators. One can complain or one can just take it all as part of the challenge.

By all means, use all the tools at your disposal-this & other forums, local knowledge, other forum members with whom you meet up, your own observations in the Kino (as EL recommends) and at the lockers. But in the end, the fun of this particular niche of mongering is getting in there and getting dirty. Make the mistakes & hone your skills. Be able to swim into shark infested waters and find the one mermaid willing to suck your dick and swallow your load, take your meager fee and say thank you.

That is living.

IMO

AM

Plover 23

02-05-10, 10:59

Make the mistakes & hone your skills.... Be able to swim into shark infested waters and find the one mermaid willing to suck your dick and swallow your load, take your meager fee and say thank you.
AM

[My comment is not based on recent experience so feel free to rubbish it!]

Angus,

I agree that, longterm, our fun includes learning from our mistakes with humility, etc. But that doesn't help advise a first and only time visitor how to avoid becoming shark food on his first swim!

EL's, your, and others advice and hints that we post do help, but we still all make mistakes sometimes!

My own recipe to enjoy Palace, was to accept up front that every session was going to cost at least a hundred, and be upfront (and firm) about my wishes in return. It all went smoothly after that. YMMV

In many ways at Palace I think it is a case of "fore warned is fore armed".

BTW, I too have been surprised by, and therefore a victim of, Luisa at Oase, who has the distinction of being among the small number of girls I have walked out on. She ignores me now.

Have fun!

PL

Angus Magee

02-05-10, 11:17

I agree that, longterm, our fun includes learning from our mistakes with humility, etc. But that doesn't help advise a first and only time visitor how to avoid becoming shark food on his first swim!

Of course I realize this. And let's face it, were someone to want to they could well call bullshit on me by asking why I am not out there in the small clubs (non P4P) of Mitte looking for young freebies here in Berlin.

Now there's a challenge!

I merely like to point out that even as a first time/occasional FKK visitor you need to take into account the facts of life and still have fun. As I say, use all the resources available. There is certainly no shame in even carrying a list of cherries plucked from this very forum. It is all part of the game.

And I myself often can sit there feeling sort of complain-y wishing it was all a bit easier. But then when I look back on my very best FKK sessions they often (that is when not arranged by such a friend as Iseeu...) containing a good dose of serendipity, chance, luck or whatever you want to call it.

So all I am saying is do not shy away from a club because if its' reputation. I encourage people to go and find out for themselves what is there. I mean, let's face it, even being stripped of 50 euros by a shark has a certain amount of entertainment value. Most important is to learn how to recognize it early, limit damage and move on. I think even newbies need to hear that.

Hessen Bub

02-05-10, 11:23

Went to Palace. Had around 40 girls and was not that busy. Stayed from 5PM until midnight.

Thursday, Feb 4th? I was there, the line up was far more than 40 girls, mininum 70 plus. Looks like you missed the good ones. ;)

HB

Ortos

02-05-10, 18:03

Your feeling at Palace of how transactional the girls are is what I feel and what Cletus Van Damme feels and maybe one or two others on this board feel. Most guys here on the ISG do not seem to have this problem and can cut through all the processing girls like Ortos, Hessen Bub, Sybarite, Ekliges Lauren, Vito Corleone, Qubei, to name just a few. These guys have honed skills that one or two of us do not have and are immune to the felling of being the prey for these hunter predator girls. I cannot do it so I stay with Oase and World when I am in Hessen. I guess I am not good enough at this FKK game.

All too often we FKKers become entrenched with our postions and opinions on things. We visit a club once or twice and have bad sessions there, so we look for reasons why and, as is natural with all of us, we seek to find blame everywhere but in ourselves. It's the club, not me. Or it's this or that, but not the bad decisions I made or the fact that I let my little head decide despite the lack of chemistry I felt, etc., etc.

It's like a guy who plays a bad tennis match: it's the racket or the strings or the court or the wind or, or or...

Then there is the: I just can't do it! I can't! Like: I can't learn a foreign language, you know, I just don't possess the ability. Instead of: I need to try harder, or I need to change my game plan, or mix up my tactics or whatever.

Come on, BC and you other guys who are intent to paint all the girls of Palace with a single brush or hover over the concept that: It's something about that club and the club culture there that breeds transactionalism.

I fell into that trap, that entrenchment, myself recently when I avoided visiting Palace for about a year or so. But then, I decided to give it another visit.

We all know: No club and no club line-up is static. If you learn anything by FKk experience you learn that one day the club (or even a specific girl's performance) can be stellar, the next a flop! Right? So I re-visited Palace and was not impressed. Then I went back again, and found it top-notch.

Believe me: It's NOT the club. It may be more your perception of the club. Don't tell me there are NOT great sessions to be found in Palace or in any club. You have to find them! Don't tell me there are no bad girls and rip-offs in Palace or in any club: You have to identify them and avoid.

Now BC: You are a man of great experience in FKK affairs. You are a veteran of mulitple campaigns. Some successfull, others not so...But you can easily fuction well in any FKK club. I've seen you at Oase. I've seen you at World, where you are now a Stammgast. You can do it at Palace also, if you want to. You just have to feel the force, let it flow through you... Don't let those sharks eat you up: You go in there, man, and YOU become the Shark! YOU, BC, are the predator, NOT the girls. So go get 'em, Tiger!!!

Now in all seriousness: Anybody can decide where to spend their Euros. And there are plenty of people who will boycott Palace for the rest of their lives. Fine. But know this: You do so right now at the risk of missing some of the best, target rich line-ups, in Hessen. Yes, right now... Btw: I don't want to be cast as a die-hard Palace fan or somebody who defends Palace on all of it's many negative points. I am just trying to argue against entrenced thinking and that one must always go back for another try, whether it be a club or even a girl that we at one-time might have rejected. Sometimes you've got to think outside your own trench.

Ortos

Basketcase

02-05-10, 21:55

Met some interesting characters. One guy who walked in with me was an FKK newbie. Told him I would catch up with him in a few minutes after I had a bite. Saw him 20 minutes later. Upon his first reconnaisance of the club, he walked into TV Room and was basically attacked by an Egyptian woman. He was going at it within a minute. He was fresh kill. Basically, he took no more than 30 steps before he was having a session. Did not even make it to a zimmer.
Oh, that Egyptian girl is Mercedes who is an ex Oase girl. Not my type but man she well loved by a lot of guys on this forum. My mate Cletus van Damme likes her a lot. I always see him canoodling with her.

Now Mercedes works at Palace, Cletus Van Damme can go fuck other girls now.

Have fun at World on Saturday and Oase on Sunday. You never know who you may meet there. LOL.

Myrmidon

02-05-10, 22:21

It has been over one year since first I was recommended to this board to do my 'research' in preparation for my first, and to date, only visit to the Hessen Two: Palace & Oase. Amazingly, the 'arguements' about Palace have changed little in that year. Yet, as a freshman, Newbie, Timmy Tourist, I was able to 'swim' in the waters of Palace with few difficulties. Because of my research on this board I was able to locate the likes of such notables as Bee (Bea) and Kimmi. Both of whom I sessioned with without any prior observation because others here had recommended them. And they lived up to their reputations. I was also able to put a name to Indira's photos on the site. The lack of info on this site about her did not deter me and thinking with the wrong head, I got 'sharked'. Yet, even then I was not upset. She was an 'optiflik' for me, something I could never dream of in the 'real' world and at 50€ she was good entertainment. Through personal observation I also avoided ladies that appeared to be 'processing' men like nothing I had ever seen. (Indira was not my only 'sharking'. When I went with my 'lust' I sometimes got sharked, though not always. If I did my due diligence / observation I usually made out ok.)

Bottom line: through preparation and observation, (the fact that I am 'older' means I recover slower & can observe more) I enjoyed myself at Palace. I viewed the presence of 'sharks' as part of the 'thrill' of the place.

Will I be back to Palace this spring? You betcha! And I'll be back to Oase, where I enjoyed not only the garden, but also the slightly more 'aggressive' girls, (gotta love it when she slides her hand up under the towel to 'take my temperature').

All of this to say I agree with the Previous posters: there are good finds at any club; do your due diligence to find 'em. And I expect that, because club personnel are not static and everyone is entitled to be having a good or bad day, I will enjoy navigating the waters in at least these two clubs because I am prepared and a little more experienced than I was last year.

Thank You to Those Who Have Gone Before & Posted so that all might enjoy the best ALL clubs have to offer.

Myr.

Basketcase

02-05-10, 22:51

Come on, BC and you other guys who are intent to paint all the girls of Palace with a single brush or hover over the concept that: It's something about that club and the club culture there that breeds transactionalism.

Now BC: You are a man of great experience in FKK affairs. You are a veteran of mulitple campaigns. Some successfull, others not so...But you can easily fuction well in any FKK club. I've seen you at Oase. I've seen you at World, where you are now a Stammgast. You can do it at Palace also, if you want to. You just have to feel the force, let it flow through you... Don't let those sharks eat you up: You go in there, man, and YOU become the Shark! YOU, BC, are the predator, NOT the girls. So go get 'em, Tiger!!!
Hi Ortos,

Are you asking me to use one of my 25 planned FKK visits between now (5 Feb 2010) to 5 April 2010 to devote to Palace instead of to Oase or World?

Ekliges Lauren came to my homeland and over dinner and drinks one evening and then lunch on another day he convinced me to return to Palace. Then he tells me that my FKK technique does not work at Palace since I work on visuals first and then look for chemistry once I meet the girl, rather than the other way round. My way means I find the girls I like the look of AND also push my buttons in the room. But what it does do also is that I exclude a lot of girls from my range. My travelling companions do note that I am fussy with my selection and the girl has to have a certain look. Hence I do not have the broad taste that many guys have here. I like my girls looking like Private porno models.

I am willing to give it a try. I will go alone I think or maybe next time Ekliges Lauren is around.

A Plover says, maybe I just have to be happy paying 100 euro a session to ensure I get a happy girl since she gets a FT bonus.

Basketcase

02-05-10, 23:12

Bc

You are a man with strong memory for details and some sophisticated analysis. So I will shed some light on my thinking.

Decided against Oase on Thursday. As it was my first day, I did not want the Tag Dessous. I was flying in from a very conservative culture and wanted to see naked women.

My original plan was to get to Palace on Friday for their party. After further reflection, as the place had a predatory reputation, I envisioned the party would have the women in an ultra predatory state of mind in order to maximize income (they see us as human ATM's at that place). So, I changed my plans at last minute.

Working backwards, as I was here on a Sunday, I decided Oase was optimum choice for Sunday. Saturday had to be Faschings party at World. I knew I had to go to Oase two times to fully discover lineup (as Sunday would not do it justice). So I was going either Thursday or Friday. But cancelled Oase for Thursday for reasons stated above.
Rwaters,

I reproduce your quote in its entirety. The reason is that I cannot fault its logic. You do what I would do having done the research that I had done prior to my debut visit. Also with the knowledge I have now and without the scared of the Palace sharks, I would what you do here too. Well done.

Enjoy the rest of the trip. I look forward to reading your reports.

Sebastiane

02-06-10, 02:04

Hi all fellow mongerers! (Or Connoisseurs of the Fairer Sex as I prefer).

Literally got back ten minutes ago from the Palace party. I got there about

10 pm and the place was jam-packed as expected. Almost immediately, after getting into the robes, I spotted a girl I've seen before and fancied but never approached. I spoke to her and we went to find a room. It was so busy we had to wait on the sofas outside along with two other "couples". Anyway, Linda from Czech Republic, the girl I was with, looked very attractive in her evening dress and her tall curvy figure and her ass and tits and short dark hair, but she had already said she didn't kiss and as soon as we entered the room I just knew I'd made a big mistake when she asked me how much I intended to spend!

She lay on the bed, opened her legs, and I licked her pussy for a bit. Then she sucked me off mechanically for a bit, all silent and v little interaction; I was soft and rueing my decision to go for her based on her looks alone and, sure enough, after a few more minutes, I called it quits and paid her 50, glad to be out. A complete shark and avoid at all costs! Processor. In my two years of visiting Palace this was probably my worst session.

Face: 7 Body: 8. 5 Performance: 1 Repeat: Hell no!

So, even experienced mongerers can get bitten once in a while if they're not careful! At that time I just returned to my usual technique of sitting at a table or sofa and observing the girls. There were quite a few new faces but no one who really stood out (for me). Then the Special Party Event began on stage and everyone crowded around to watch what turned out to be a good piece of theatre-a guy dressed as the Predator and a female model acted out a sci-fi skit which was fun. Then they both proceeded to strip and fuck live on stage which was okay to start with and then got boring. The good thing was that since all the people were crowded round to watch the show it was a great chance to see most of the girls. There were some good looking ones: two caught my fancy and I made a mental note to fuck them at some point but no one who made me say I want you NOW!

A girl from Ukraine called Ambra (?) had a nice chat and she was attractive too but I told her later and did plan to. I Would have too if I hadn't spotted and been totally blown away by the extraodinarily beautiful German angel, Saskia, who looks like Greta Garbo on a good day. She is the most classically beautiful woman I've seen at Palace and one of the most beautiful anywhere. As exquisite as a young Elizabeth Taylor. Blonde hair, incredibly high cheek bones which are so sharp it looks like they could cut glass, the most mesmerising doe-like eyes, perfect straight nose and mouth as well as a great natural figure. If I was hypercritical I could say her ass is slightly too big but (a) I like curvy butts (b) she is so angelically, radiantly beautiful feature wise, who cares? I've written about Saskia before a few times but this time she was really dressed to kill too due to the party and this extra effort was what made me go gaga. Wow!

I had to have her. I went up to her and smiled and she recognised me straight away. I told her I'd like to go after she'd finished watching the porn show! After some more chit-chat we both agreed it was boring and, a cigarette later (only her; I don't smoke), we went to a room. Inside she was as GFE-amazing as ever. My previously dormant dick was raging! She is just perfect in the bedroom. After lots of foreplay and 69, analingus, we fucked and I eventually came inside this beautiful creature. We cuddled and chatted a bit and I promised to see her again next week for a much longer session (she told me at the start she was going home after my session and didn't allow me to extend it past an hour like I wanted. Even offering her extra money didn't work! Class!). Wow! I am stunned that a girl of such beauty and refinement does this for a living and can only think the money must be amazing. I even told her so during our session. She could easily get into showbusiness based on her looks.

Looks: 10 Body: 9: Performance: 10. Repeat? Definitely.

I was on a real high afterwards and didn't want to spoil the night so I left soon after paying her although I did eat the fantastic food (perfectly roasted beef, grilled chicken, lush tiramisu, juice, cappucino).she had drained me!.and then showered and sauna'd and left.

I'm going back on Monday to meet her again.

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Rwaters

02-06-10, 07:38

I have no regrets of going to Palace and I would definitely recommend it to all who visit the area as an FKK to visit. Just sharing my experience with a caution.

Yes, I had one good session..other was bad. But my observation was that many of the girls were really "processing" and upselling the guys---Hey that's life in the big city FKK.

Angus Magee

02-06-10, 10:36

I spotted a girl I've seen before and fancied but never approached. I spoke to her and we went to find a room. It was so busy we had to wait on the sofas outside along with two other "couples". Anyway, Linda from Czech Republic, the girl I was with, looked very attractive in her evening dress and her tall curvy figure and her ass and tits and short dark hair, but she had already said she didn't kiss and as soon as we entered the room I just knew I'd made a big mistake when she asked me how much I intended to spend!

She lay on the bed, opened her legs, and I licked her pussy for a bit. Then she sucked me off mechanically for a bit, all silent and v little interaction; I was soft and rueing my decision to go for her based on her looks alone and, sure enough, after a few more minutes, I called it quits and paid her 50, glad to be out. A complete shark and avoid at all costs! Processor. In my two years of visiting Palace this was probably my worst session.

All due respect (as Tony Soprano would say) this is not (IMHO) a full fledged shark attack. At least based on your description. At worst it was a nibble stripping you of 50 euros, as hard as that may be to stomach.

As I read it you in fact targeted her and she was for you an optifick that you failed to properly vet. We all do that from time to time, but to label the girl as a full on predator based on this interaction seems a little uncharitable to me. Sounds more (and hey, I wasn't there was I) like she took the opportunity that presented itself (you) to make an easy 50 early in the morning from an understandably horny monger.

Please take this in the spirit it is intended-that of encouraging fair & balanced reporting in the forum.

Also thanks for taking the time to report your findings. The second girl sounds a keeper.

Sebastiane

02-06-10, 15:11

Angus

A day later and on reflection I suppose I was as much to blame for ripped off or nibbled as you put it by Linda. Still I wouldn't recommend her. She may not be a shark per your definition but she def is a processor. She was in and out of a room with a diff guy every 10 min or so. I suppose like me there are a lot of optifuck suckers out there!

In her favour she does it all with a lot of smiles and is polite as well as hot just not what I expect from a Courtesan in the performance or attitude dept.

The other girl Saskia is just perfect . If I wasn't already married I'd marry her without hesitation even though she does this job. I enjoy writing reports and to perhaps help others as this forum helps me.

One thing that puzzles me is why there are never any guys in their early twenties there or college kids. In my lone of work I meet very wealthy young germans so am surprised not to see many under 25 at palace

Sebastiane

02-06-10, 15:14

Btw if you do a search you'll find that others have also waxed lyrical about saskia on this forum. Just not as poetically as I did!!

Beffen1

02-06-10, 16:21

believe me: it's not the club. it may be more your perception of the club. don't tell me there are not great sessions to be found in palace or in any club. you have to find them! don't tell me there are no bad girls and rip-offs in palace or in any club: you have to identify them and avoid.

now bc: you are a man of great experience in fkk affairs. you are a veteran of mulitple campaigns. some successfull, others not so...but you can easily fuction well in any fkk club. i've seen you at oase. i've seen you at world, where you are now a stammgast. you can do it at palace also, if you want to. you just have to feel the force, let it flow through you... don't let those sharks eat you up: you go in there, man, and you become the shark! you, bc, are the predator, not the girls. so go get 'em, tiger!!!

ortos

professor-
a classic pep talk from the coach- you made my day, st. ortos.

and right you are about palace. palace was the first fkk i ever visited. after first checking out the sauna club planet happy garden. golden time did not exist yet. i remember the trail to palace was first blazed by carnal 1. some of my all time stellar experiences were at palace:

the lovely regi/vicki first worked her orally fixated slutty [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) magic on me in palace.

cooing daniella- the romanian milf.

model gorgeous andra- who at first tried to charge extra for kissing and ended up becoming a gfe who posed for geil photos after she realized i spend more time with a compliant girl. what a fucking doll she was.

who can forget the alluring and glamorous blondine marina? - she of the bejeweled hood and the endless smiling bj. no english? no problem.

my first ever anal at the bargain price of 50 extra with the barbi-doll blonde from lithuania- there was a big one and a small one with the same name but i can't remember the names??

and little denisa, currently vice president of the romanian junior schoolclass.

that being said- since my run-in with managament that resulted in an "i fought the law and the law didn't win" drama being played out where a girl who literally dove down to suck my dick and tried to charge me 25 for a kiss in the main room and management ordered me to pay it but after two ten minute arguments with the big broad and the old guy , they ignored me later as i sat by the front bar refusing o move or pay and then wandered back into the club to continue mongering. also, one visit when i left ungepoppt and others where i had trouble finding a session. i'd go in wintertime, when the ranks (and other things) naturally swell.

look, it's wintertime, it's icy and snowy and it's messe time big time. of course palace is rocking now. check the place in june and it'll be a ghost town again. almost guaranteed. that being said, were i in frankfurt around this time, i'd be at palace, because the roads are schiesse right now and there are lots of girls and no need for a garden.

regards prof- beffen, your teaching assistant

Ortos

02-06-10, 17:20

My first ever anal at the bargain price of 50 extra with the barbi-doll blonde from Lithuania- there was a big one and a small one with the same name but I can't remember the names??

Thanks, Beff, for the ride down memory lane! Yeah, the good ole days, eh? Hard to believe how long we've been doing this now...

And you forgot to mention the Razzia at Palace. Weren't you involved in that...?

The girls you mention at Palace but whose name you forgot: Was it Diana? or something like that? I think they used to be at Atlantis before Palace, right?

O

Bearsk

02-06-10, 17:48

Interesting, I like to talk more first and my failing is that I can be talked into a session if the girl is nice etc. Your weakness is "Love at First Sight".

I am very reluctant to go with a girl who will not kiss at all.

In terms of Linda, you picked her and decided on her in a horny state that probably clouded your judgement. I have a rule now that my first effort of the day should be a repeat. Its more predictable and much less prone to disappointment.

Thanks for the post.

Anyway, Linda from Czech Republic ... she had already said she didn't kiss and as soon as we entered the room I just knew I'd made a big mistake when she asked me how much I intended to spend!

She lay on the bed, opened her legs, and I licked her pussy for a bit. Then she sucked me off mechanically for a bit, all silent and v little interaction; I was soft and rueing my decision to go for her based on her looks alone and, sure enough, after a few more minutes, I called it quits and paid her 50, glad to be out. A complete shark and avoid at all costs! Processor. In my two years of visiting Palace this was probably my worst session.

... totally blown away by the extraodinarily beautiful German angel, Saskia, who looks like Greta Garbo on a good day...
Looks: 10 Body: 9: Performance: 10. Repeat? Definitely.

Iseeu

02-07-10, 02:07

Now in all seriousness: Anybody can decide where to spend their Euros. And there are plenty of people who will boycott Palace for the rest of their lives. Fine. But know this: You do so right now at the risk of missing some of the best, target rich line-ups, in Hessen. Yes, right now... Btw: I don't want to be cast as a die-hard Palace fan or somebody who defends Palace on all of it's many negative points. I am just trying to argue against entrenced thinking and that one must always go back for another try, whether it be a club or even a girl that we at one-time might have rejected. Sometimes you've got to think outside your own trench.
Ortos
Great points. I agree on all counts. Even though I've had mostly unsatisfactory experiences at Palace (and VV), I still try to get back at least once a year to see if we can turn our love/hate relationship around. One of my mottos in life is that I'll try anything twice. Entrenchment on a fixed position doesn't allow you think "out of the box" or enjoy a full kaleidoscope of experiences.

I think that it's great and very telling, that after staying away from Palace you went back and had a great time. Shows the benefits of perseverance, dedication to purpose and honing your mongering skills.
2 points:
1) The fact that I and others have had bad experiences at Palace cannot solely be attributed to our faulty antenna or lack of skills at sussing out the sharks. The same antenna and skills serve me pretty well in other clubs and situations. There is something in the environment and vibe there that allow sharks and scammers to freely breed. Yes there's a fair measure of each in other clubs, but a healthy preponderence of them in Palace. It's not a coincidence. Species breed in conducive environments.
2) For those of us, who live across the pond, even someone like me who gets over on a fairly regular basis, there's a need to set priorities. We can't visit all of the clubs regularly, so we have to choose to maximize our time and expendable income. So we go to those clubs where we feel we can maximize our experience and get the most value for our hard-earned bucks. For me it will always be to those clubs where I feel I'm getting the best service on a regular basis hence my affinity for Bernd's and Oase.

I admit that I'm not familiar with the current lineup at Palace, and I understand that by writing this I'm opening myself up again for claims that I'm attacking Palace without having recently visited. I'm not attacking it or comparing it unfavorably with other clubs. In the end, as has often been written here, each one of us needs to try out clubs on our own and draw our own conclusions. Often those conclusions have more to do with our own life situations and inclinations than with a particular club or SP.

Beffen1

02-07-10, 03:46

Thanks, Beff, for the ride down memory lane! Yeah, the good ole days, eh? Hard to believe how long we've been doing this now...btw: Have you come yet?

And you forgot to mention the Razzia at Palace. Weren't you involved in that...?

The girls you mention at Palace but whose name you forgot: Was it Diana? or something like that? I think they used to be at Atlantis before Palace, right?

O

No Ortos, I have not been able to return yet to Palace.
Ah the Razzia, that was fun. Woke up from a nap and the cops were lining all the men on one side and the women on the other. I thought it was party games. Until they probed and inspected my passport for 30 minutes.
And yes professor, it was the indeed the Dianas. I cornholed grosse Diana.

Syzygies

02-07-10, 09:33

Had first Marina from Thailand, I think she is only half thai, very curvey body and bigger natural tits that I have seen thais having. Very much GFE, would repeat anytime.There is a new voluptuous Thai girl (full thai looking to me), called Marisa (with the last syllable long), with big tits. I'm guessing that's who you mean.

Syzygies

02-07-10, 09:57

It has been over one year since first I was recommended to this board to do my 'research' in preparation for my first, and to date, only visit to the Hessen Two: Palace & Oase. Amazingly, the 'arguements' about Palace have changed little in that year. Yet, as a freshman, Newbie, Timmy Tourist, I was able to 'swim' in the waters of Palace with few difficulties. Because of my research on this board I was able to locate the likes of such notables as Bee (Bea) and Kimmi. Both of whom I sessioned with without any prior observation because others here had recommended them. And they lived up to their reputations.

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Thank You to Those Who Have Gone Before & Posted so that all might enjoy the best ALL clubs have to offer.

Myr.Unfortunately Brazil Kimmi seems to be gone for some time now. There is sometimes still dark tall voluptuous German Kim, who is a lovely girl and great GFE. Even spent extra time with me relaxing in the bedroom at end of her shift for no extra charge. But she tends to work on quiet days.

For regulars at the Palace, there is little trouble in finding known great providers, and the sharks tend to not even bother approaching guys that are seen there all the time.

This may suit more the type of guy looking for very reliable repeat girls, rather than trying every single good looking girl in the place. There are many good looking girls I have never tried maybe just because body shape is not quite my type, or the girl just doesn't give the quite the right vibe, or maybe scared off by bad reports, or scared of by seeing girl returning from very short sessions consistently or not seeming to have regulars.

But seeing girls that have many regular highly enthusiatic customers, gives a good impression.

But I think for newbies at the a Palace or even non-regulars, compiling a short list of highly recommended providers, that sound like your type, has great benefits. At least then can get some good girls with little risk attached to them.

Unfortunately I don't have the stamina to take the gamble and to try heaps of different girls, and compile a list, luckily we have many guys, with different tastes, reporting on specific girls on this board.

P.S. There seem to be quite a few new pretty girls this year with really great bodies. The temptation to try something new is always there, even for guys with confirmed regular girls.

Hessen Bub

02-07-10, 10:37

the lithuanian dianas ... geil. both. the tall diana and small diana with her braces. ;) marina. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). karina. polish cindy. nadine. viagra. and more. most of them were atl-refugees. great memories. but still you find good service providers at palace.

all the italians that enter german fkks in crowds did ruin the service. they are happy to find a girl that does a bbbj and a 5min fuck. no kissing, no daty, cause they are ok with it the girls do lower their service level.

hb

Angus Magee

02-07-10, 10:54

A day later and on reflection I suppose I was as much to blame for ripped off or nibbled as you put it by Linda.

At the risk of being a wee bit pedantic, I prefer to take responsibility as opposed to finding blame. Blame comes very much from a position of weakness, even if it ourselves we are blaming. Nothing to do with blame except assign victimhood.

Taking responsibility simply asks that we look at our own actions/perceptions of a given situation and try to see how we ended up with the result we did. And can I do it differently next time.

I wouldn't recommend her. She may not be a shark per your definition but she def is a processor. She was in and out of a room with a diff guy every 10 min or so. I suppose like me there are a lot of optifuck suckers out there!

Fair enough. In m experience even an optifick processor can be fun if one goes in with one's eyes open. I actually really get off on those occasions when I take a girl to the room who is cool and not ready to give it up at all, but then due to my enormous charm, wit and sexual skills can't help but soften & open just a little bit.

And yeah, sometimes I fall flat on my face with this one.

For me sexiness in a woman has more to do with how she responds to me, how she opens, than any static function like looks. That is I am attracted by the looks, but for any real sexual chemistry to happen she has to open herself just a bit. To put it bluntly, while a wide open, sloppy wet pussy is sexy, a slightly moist closed pussy, that opens and starts to ooze as a result of what I do , is far sexier.

A thing that puzzles me is why there are never any guys in their early twenties there or college kids. In my lone of work I meet very wealthy young germans so am surprised not to see many under 25 at palace

When I think back to myself at 25 I was barely even ready to admit to myself that I "had to pay for it" let alone others. So going into the relatively open situation that is an FKK would have been unthinkable for me. That and I still labored under the crippling illusion that I would meet "the one" who would satisfy all my varied sexual desires & fantasies.

Atooz

02-07-10, 19:02

Btw if you do a search you'll find that others have also waxed lyrical about saskia on this forum. Just not as poetically as I did!!

Hi Sybarite2006,

Thanks for your report of Saskia. She is a classic beauty in my book, and has a very nice and sexy voice. I think her great appeal is that she does not look slutty like most of the other girls in the club. Rather, she looks like a high class professional woman that we would have very little chance of scoring on in real life. Her penchant for not approaching men add to that mystique. And then she would say to you after a long and soft BBBJ "do you want to fuck me?", priceless.
It is very surprising that she doesn't find more fans or admirers on this forum. Even the great Hessen Bub once said "she is not my type" and admitted that he had never sessioned with her.

So what was she wearing on that one occassion that took your breath away?

Greta Gabo?!!! Was she from this centry? I looked her up on Google, Saskia looks way more beautiful. I was dreaming about her all night after reading your post. Thanks.

Italia77

02-07-10, 20:17

the lithuanian dianas. geil. both. the tall diana and small diana with her braces.. marina. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). karina. polish cindy. nadine. viagra. and more. most of them were atl-refugees. great memories. but still you find good service providers at palace.

all the italians that enter german fkks in crowds did ruin the service. they are happy to find a girl that does a bbbj and a 5min fuck. no kissing, no daty, cause they are ok with it the girls do lower their service level.

hbciao hb,

i'm italian as well, and trust me, i don't like speed service. i pay half an hour so please me for half an hour. if i'm too horny and i finish earlier it's my decision.

ohhh. fkks. starting a miss to come there. last time was august. so the lusting-theater tempting me a little bit. lol.

how about black asses in the palace crew nowadayz? i'm missing a doogie-style with a tight chocolate firm ass on the kino ambient.

Sebastiane

02-07-10, 21:45

Atoozz,

Yes Saskia. I agree with all you've written. She is a classic beauty indeed I'm the style of the great beauties of the past in Hollywood and I just wrote greta Garbo as she was famous and german and from that era! I agree saskia is prettier. I will try to find an actress she resembles but she is a great beauty in the old sense of a girl whose beauty makes grown men go weak at the knees! What was she wearing? A black cocktail designer dress which just went past her butt midway to her thighs and nothing on underneath except a bra. It was also shoulderless and partially backless. She wore black eyeliner to accentuate her eyes further. Wow!

I've been thinking of her non stop too! Which worries me as this way lies ruin but I've always had a self destructive streak when it comes to women who approach my ideal in the looks department!

I think the reason she isn't discussed more is that she intimidates guys by her beauty and they are afraid to approach her. If I saw her outside this fkk environment I'd be too although I'd still approach her as I'm confident with women. I don't think I'd stand much chance though!

I don't mind if this jewel remains relatively unknown adit means I can spend more time with her! Glad to have helped your fantasies! And dreams!

I'm not so wealthy but if I could afford it I'd become her danna and shed be my sole and exclusive geisha!

She was wearing a black cocktail dress which went down just past her butt and was partially backless, a bra and no panties. The dress was about midway down to her thighs. It was shoulderless too. She was wearing black eyeliner and eye shadow too which really accentuated her already doe-like eyes further

Sebastiane

02-08-10, 01:59

Atooz re: her voice: yes she does have a very sexy and refined voice and speaks flawless English with just a touch of German accent! Grrr!

I would've absolutely LOVED the possibility of seeing her 5, 10 years ago. I don't know how old she is but I'd say late 20s, early 30s so if she is so amazing now I wonder how incredibly lovely she must've been in her early youth.

Perhaps those who've been in this FKK game a lot longer than me can tell us?

Sebastiane

02-08-10, 22:04

So I went during the daytime shift getting there around five. I'd gone to see Saskia and it was really nice and relaxed compared to how it is in the evenings and on weekends. Today being a Monday of course. There were lots of beautiful girls and relatively few guys so one gets pampered by the girls and loads of attention. The quality right now is really high.

Well I had to turn down a lot of attractive ladies because I was waiting for saskia and when I spotted her I didn't waste much time. She was as lovely as ever although because I'd been out drinking the nigt before plus lots of porn I wasn't able to perform so well this time and eventually had to jerk off into her lovely mouth. Almost sacrilege to defile a thing of beauty like that although her words 'you like my face so much why don't you come all over it? ' were priceless. Still my ego took a boost since I wasn't able to come whilst fucking due to my penis being too tired!

It was a GFE from her side though. Paid her and said that if my dick was feeling upto it I might repeat later.

Then went to the Reading area to read my book and recover my energy. It was nice to be there and my Reading was regularly interrupted my girls asking me to session with them including german melissa and a new Italian girl. I said no each time. Then I went to eat and as I was a scoping I spotted this stunning girl who looked like a supermodel with an amazing body tall. Close to six feet. Lithe and a very pretty face too with sharpish features. I was sold and went up to her and only asked I'd she kissed on rfe mouth and she said yes and told me she was martha from Colombia. Stunning. So even though my dick wasn't fully recovered off we went, this tall leggy supermodel and I. Slightly brown hair. A real sweetheart in the bedroom and GFE although a little bit inexperienced but so so worth it. Eventually finished with CIM. Paid a bonus she was so nice. Another amazing find. Body 10 face 9 attitude 10 repeat definitely.

A potentially perfect day let down by my own lack of performance but fucked two women so beautiful most men can only fantasise about such lookers. Fkk is an amazing place.

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Atooz

02-09-10, 04:46

I don't know how old she [Saskia] is but I'd say late 20s, early 30s.

The last time I saw Saskia, it was about a year ago. I remembered asking if she was around 26 and she told me she was 30 (or 31?). Since I started seeing her a few years ago at Palace, she did gain a little weight but still looks incredibly good. I think you're right that some guys can be intimited by her looks and demeanor. At least one punter (forgot the name) did admit that he regretted not approaching her out of fear of not being worthy.
I found her voice not only sexy but very calming. Who wouldn't want a mate who is elegantly beautiful and free of drama? So you are not the first one to think about marrying her. I said to her that she should come home to the States with me. She just gave me this "Ooooh" response and looked intrigued by the idea (or so I wished). She told me that she has a family and I believed her as she only works during the week and rarely stays past the 6pm dinner.
My circumstances grounded me in the States for now. So, I've been reading the Palace posts looking for any reports of her. I hope she would still be there when I get around to coming for a visit.

Sebastiane

02-09-10, 12:03

I found her voice not only sexy but very calming. Who wouldn't want a mate who is elegantly beautiful and free of drama? So you are not the first one to think about marrying her. I said to her that she should come home to the States with me. She just gave me this "Ooooh" response and looked intrigued by the idea (or so I wished). She told me that she has a family and I believed her as she only works during the week and rarely stays past the 6pm dinner.Atooz my friend it seems like we are both on the same wavelength. I actually said to her yesterday , only half jokingly, that you should marry me! She told me that she loves her boyfriend very much and that she has been going out with him since she was very young and loves him very much. She also told me she doesn't believe in marriage! she said she's 32. She opened up a little and told me about her family which was nice of her although she s very private and despite all my charm didn't tell me her real name as she said the world inside fkk isn't real and she likes to keep the two separate! Yes about a year ago she'd put on a little weight but she's lost it again now. Hope that helps you.

Basketcase

02-09-10, 22:02

All the Italians that enter German FKKs in crowds did ruin the service. They are happy to find a girl that does a BBBJ and a 5min fuck. No kissing, no DATY, cause they are OK with it the girls do lower their service level.
So many Italiani in Oase too! The German girls tell me that they like the Italiani customers since they come often and come quickly. LOL.

FKK World to me as a foreigner seems to be more German customers and as such a different feel. You get Italiani there too I see but now in the crowds at Oase or Palace.

I know some of the Francophone customers say it is a different group of customers that sometimes spoils the atmosphere and service at Oase.

Hessen Bub

02-10-10, 09:16

[QUOTE=Basketcase]FKK World to me as a foreigner seems to be more German customers and as such a different feel. You get Italiani there too I see but now in the crowds at Oase or Palace./QUOTE]

Monday at World: 50% Italians. 10% Russians.

HB

Dandriller

02-12-10, 02:41

I have to stop going to Palace when I am jetlagged.

Maybe I should have washed down some cialis with a can of red bull.

Arrived around 3pm and sat next to Pia from Cuba in the Kino.

She looked good so I let her blow me.

Her technique was good but I decided not to come and gave her €50.

Walked outside and was immediately approached by Israeli Clara.

She is a good saleswoman and although she is not my type, I accepted her offer.

She took me back to the Kino and offered me a dildo up my ass, my cock in her ass, and a variety of other options all of which I declined as I just wanted a decent blow job.

Eventually though, I had to end the session without coming.

Back to the Kino I go, hopefully I could relax.

It wasn't going to happen though and Chanel approached me.

German/Brazil I think she said.

I still had a hard on so I let her have a go and this time after some sucking she rode me CG and then I finished in doggie.

Of course as soon as I left the Kino, I spotted the one that I really wanted to do and I had to say no because I had just done my load.

I can't remember her name, but she was tall, slim, chocolate coloured smooth skin, great butt and breasts, beautiful face with long dark hair, like a model.

She said she was from the Dominican Republic.

Her face had an almost asian look.

I hope she is there the next time I am at Palace.

I left at around 4:45pm, claiming my €25 refund for business time rate.

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Syzygies

02-12-10, 08:46

So many Italiani in Oase too! The German girls tell me that they like the Italiani customers since they come often and come quickly. LOL.

FKK World to me as a foreigner seems to be more German customers and as such a different feel. You get Italiani there too I see but now in the crowds at Oase or Palace.

I know some of the Francophone customers say it is a different group of customers that sometimes spoils the atmosphere and service at Oase.BC,

Although there are plenty of italians frequenting The Palace, it doesn't adversly affect the service of the good girls in any way except they may be happier when more customers are available. The Palace is quiet for customers right now with bad weather outside. Heaps of girls though.

Personally, I am there to see girls, so I don't worry about where the other customers come from as long as they behave well. Early evening is best before semi-drunk customers start arriving in droves late in the night. Early evening is good because fewer customers competing for the best girls.

My problem with World was too many Bulgarian girls that seemed to have a different attitude. They seemed to think its O.K. to hassle the customers, more so than at the Palace.

Hessen Bub

02-12-10, 11:39

I can't remember her name, but she was tall, slim, chocolate coloured smooth skin, great butt and breasts, beautiful face with long dark hair, like a model.

She said she was from the Dominican Republic.

Maybe Alice.

HB

Syzygies

02-12-10, 23:21

Maybe Alice.

HBAlice looks like Halle Berry (or even better), but looks can be deceiving. She doesn't seem to have many regulars.

Woof Woof

02-13-10, 04:54

I was in FRA for business earlier this week and this past Monday night was the only time I could make my FKK getaway so I got to Palace at around 18h. I'm an infrequent visitor to Palace by choice and my frame of reference is the GT/LR circuit. However, I was quite impressed by the Palace lineup this past Monday night. There had to be at least a dozen optificks in the 9 category and easily another 20 or so in the highly doable category 7-8 among the 50 or so girls present that night. Ratio of brown robes to naked girls was also very favorable. I was told by several girls that compared to last Monday night when there was a Messe in town this was a very slow night for them. That was clear to me very quickly because it seems like i was approached by just about all the girls. It was a good way to learn their names and to practice saying nein, vielleicht, or spaeter. Had to escape to the jacuzzi and the sauna in between sessions to avoid having to answer the same repetitive questions.

I did three sessions with three blondes all with quite different styles and personalities but they all started the session by describing and upselling their offerings. First session was with Gina (.cz), blue-eyed blonde, 1.50m, cute face with nice smile, thicker body type. Took the CIM ending option. Next session was with Cindy (.pl), 1.65m, tanned with fake boobs, tattoo on lower back, MILFY type but I just love her face and sparkling blue eyes. Also took the CIM option for the ending. I would rate her service above Gina's. Last session for the night was with Natasha, a thin petite, 1.50m, dark blonde, from Siberia, early 20s, likes to talk dirty, kinky with everything on the menu. So i helped her out with dildo play on her. A definite turn-on and something different to end the night.

Among the optificks in the 9 category I talked to and wished I could have done that night was Melissa (.de), Svetlana (.ru), both tall blondes, and Michelle who has a gorgeous face and is half-German and half-Singaporean. Now i have more reason to return to Palace in the near future.

Facilities are first-rate and cleaning staff ranks right up there with the GT crew in terms of keeping things clean and uncluttered. I also like the separate cafeteria setup and the customer-friendly hours. Good place to go in between sessions to replenish your protein and juices.

Hessen Bub

02-13-10, 10:08

Alice looks like Halle Berry (or even better), but looks can be deceiving. She doesn't seem to have many regulars.

I keep going with her for years. She does give an excellent blowjob and is fun to fuck. Great body.

HB

Hanshans01

02-13-10, 21:35

Next Wednesday I'll planning to visit de Palace club.

I've read all interesting posts.

Is there somebody to escort me?

Italia77

02-14-10, 18:46

I keep going with her for years. She does give an excellent blowjob and is fun to fuck. Great body.

HBWow it sounds good!

I like black girls, so maybe she is a must see, even because Palace is not famous for black girls, I think not like OASE.

Euro Wanderer

02-16-10, 22:44

Next session was with Cindy (.pl), 1.65m, tanned with fake boobs, tattoo on lower back, MILFY type but I just love her face and sparkling blue eyes. Also took the CIM option for the ending. I would rate her service above Gina's.Was this by chance the "famous" Cindy or a different one?

Dandriller

02-17-10, 09:06

Thanks Hessen Bub for identifying her.

I've been going to the Palace once every 2-3 months over the last year and have never seen her there before.

Any idea if she is there on particular days/times?

I don't want to miss her the next time.

Hessen Bub

02-19-10, 11:33

I've been going to the Palace once every 2-3 months over the last year and have never seen her there before.

Any idea if she is there on particular days/times?

Difficult to say, usually day shift. But she mentioned to take a brake and go back home for some weeks.

Was this by chance the "famous" Cindy or a different one?

Nope.

HB

Syzygies

02-20-10, 01:06

Syzygies

02-20-10, 01:09

Dandriller

02-20-10, 13:55

Thanks guys.

I usually go late afternoon Wed-Sat, so maybe next time.

I still can't believe I said no to her, and when I did, she just went to play one of the video game machines near the change rooms.

I couldn't believe she wasn't in demand.

Syzygies

02-20-10, 17:41

Looking back on the last year, here are my top GFE girls from the Palace. Please be aware that I favour Gazelles (slim to medium build girls) rather than buffaloes.

Bee (Thai)
Mitzu (Japan)
Kimmi (Brazil)
Kim (Germany)
Unfortuantely Mitzu and Kimmi seem to be gone now.
Many will mourn their loss.

What made these girls do outstanding? Many things really, but the obvious one is that they were so great, that I would gladly keep repeating with them, in preference to trying someone else, because the GFE with a hot girl was guaranteed.

All four were good looking (to my taste) with good sexy bodies, charming, very friendly, intimate, high class, fun, full-on GFE, sexually hot, all super kissers, super blow-jobs, willing DATY receivers, great fuckers, and even orgasmic given the right circumstances, but not porn-stars. Girls that never seem to have a bad day, always reliable. Relaxed, not watching the clock, no upsell, and better than most real GFs on the bed. The feeling with these girls was very hard to distinguish from that with a girfriend other than they did accept money (of course).

It wasn't impossible to find some imperfections, with these girls, but easily overlooked. e.g. Bee's tats, Mitzu's ordinary bottom, Kim is putting on just a little weight, etc. No Palace girl is 100% perfect!

All had very nice breasts, at least B cup and most were C, despite the slim figures. This is mainly a coincidence.

There were a few girls with small tits that were very repeatable but did not quite meet the criteria for top GFE honours. e.g. Nicholetta, Daniella, Nina, etc.

Apologies to some other no doubt super girls that were never tried. Quite a few other girls were tried, but not many could meet the overall very difficult selection criteria for a full GFE. For PSE, obviously the selection would be different.

Would be good to see the list of "super-girls" from some other regular customers too, hopefully including the selection criteria, as we know different guys want different things. But the idea is identify girls that are fantastic in some way, and would be always well worth repeating.

"Super" girls tend to collect a lot of regular customers over time which keeps them more busy than regular girls when the Palace is quiet.

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Syzygies

02-21-10, 01:13

No Alice today, but plenty of other black girls.

Also the Thais were out in force today. Another new one just started:

Naree

Others present (starting with more recent ones) were:

Nah, Cherie, Boom, Bee, Kim, Nikki, Lucky (that's 8)

Missing were: Marisa, Nina, Dee-dee.

Dee-Dee hasn't been seen for quite some months time.

Tan present, but Chinese.

Its worth pointing out that most Thai girls are reliably good screws and not sharks (at least the five I tried).

Quite a few newish girls, but business is tough till it gets late when a lot more customers start to arrive. That's when its time for me to go.

Wildfig

02-21-10, 02:41

I visited Palace tonite 7:30 to 1:00, my first visit since one year ago. I like Palace, it is conveniently located, nice clean rooms with mirrors and you get a clean sheet to cover the bed. They now have a new restaurant with good food and herbs grown in containers on the tables. I was told that a new FKK club opened in Frankfurt 2 weeks ago but I don't know the name.

Many good looking girls, superior to World and Oase in my opinion. I spent the first hour fending off obvious sharks and girls I didn't fancy. Two blonde Romanian girls were following me round trying to persuade me to take them both together.

First session with Flora 24 from Bulgaria but she looks northern European, I met her in the smoking area, pretty face, medium build, light brown straight hair, she has a tattoo of a peacock feather over her right hip-groin area. Very polite and pleasant girl to talk to. Good DFK and BBBJ, CIM finish. Later in the evening she sat with me chatting for about 20 minutes.

Next was Marchetta, petite girl 22, half Russian half Romanian, light brown slightly curly hair. Only light kissing, apart from that a real PSE session (Ortos she's like Moldavian "V"). She offered all sorts of extras but I only took the CIM option.

Last was Hungarian Jessica mid 20's, pretty, nice body. This one tried to finish me quickly but as it was my 3rd session it wasnt going to happen so fast, so she had to put up with me for 25 minutes.

Overall an enjoyable evening.

Hessen Bub

02-21-10, 10:02

Vito Corleone

02-21-10, 17:17

I still can't believe I said no to her, and when I did, she just went to play one of the video game machines near the change rooms.

I couldn't believe she wasn't in demand.
Alice is a decent session if you can bust one within 20 minutes. Starts to rush after 15 min & refuses to continue after 20 min. I made her think I would CIM just to get an extra 8 min bj out of her. Nothing special about her other than she looks really hot with a tight toned bod. Accually, I take that back. It was worth watching her pretty face go up & doen my shaft & banging her doggie was great.

Vito Corleone

02-21-10, 17:19

I like black girls, so maybe she is a must see, even because Palace is not famous for black girls, I think not like OASE.
There were about 5-6 black babes & 2 new ones working @ Oase early last week.

Vito Corleone

02-21-10, 17:23

Looking back on the last year, here are my top GFE girls from the Palace. Please be aware that I favour Gazelles (slim to medium build girls) rather than buffaloes.

Bee (Thai)
Mitzu (Japan)
Kimmi (Brazil)
Kim (Germany)

Kim is putting on just a little weight, etc. No Palace girl is 100% perfect!

You can add German Cheyenne to your list. Kim was there 2 weeks ago & looked great. Lost some weight & still a great session.

Syzygies

02-21-10, 17:27

You can add German Cheyenne to your list. Kim was there 2 weeks ago & looked great. Lost some weight & still a great session.I just noticed that noonne of my super GFE girls was blonde. I would be nice to here about some super blondes.

Silver Surfer

02-24-10, 22:52

Police Razia in Palace is in progress. Just got out; am writing from Idustriebahnhofe station on a mobile device. Male and female guests separated. Men are in a lobby by a locker area, girls are in the main room, central area. Police registered ALL MALE guests (name, passport No); girls were also registered. Poor guys who left IDs or passports at home or hotels are still there. Management gave free tickets to all foreign guest who had courage to stay until the end of the police raid. Scary, but incredible experience. All guests were more or less cool. It was not a pleasent sight when 30+ strong police unit sealed the venue and all exits. A piece of advise: always carry ID with you. Last week thea raided World, now Palace.

Who's next?

Hessen Bub

02-25-10, 08:28

Last week thea raided World, now Palace.

Not last week, on Tuesday!

HB

Beffen1

02-25-10, 15:17

Ortos

02-25-10, 17:57

beffen- whose details are probably moldering in a police record somewhere as a guy who loves internationl muschi

...or as a guy who likes to make regular contributions to the German economy?

O

Ortos

02-25-10, 18:02

Police Razia in Palace is in progress. Just got out; am writing from Idustriebahnhofe station on a mobile device. Male and female guests separated. Men are in a lobby by a locker area, girls are in the main room, central area.

Interesting these Raids happening when Tax time is just around the corner, eh?

If I might repeat the question of the distinguished gentleman, Herr Smuler, on the other thread:

Did the police show any interest in searching Men's lockers or personal belongings? Sometimes I wear jackets from my high school days and I often forget to remove small items like half-smoked joints that I used to consume years ago...you know, I never touch the stuff these days...but just wondering if there was any personliche Sache search, or was it merely cataloguing the male guests?

Thanks,

O

Silver Surfer

02-25-10, 21:36

Interesting these Raids happening when Tax time is just around the corner, eh?

If I might repeat the question of the distinguished gentleman, Herr Smuler, on the other thread:

Did the police show any interest in searching Men's lockers or personal belongings? Sometimes I wear jackets from my high school days and I often forget to remove small items like half-smoked joints that I used to consume years ago...you know, I never touch the stuff these days...but just wondering if there was any personliche Sache search, or was it merely cataloguing the male guests?

Thanks,

OMore on the raid: Police entered the premises on Wed, approx at 21. 30. Policemen were both in uniforms and in civilian clothes. Uniformed cops blocked all corridors and exits; two of them were prevented men to reach their lockers in a changing/shower room. At the time, there were approx 50% Germans, while the rest were Italians, Turks, Asians, Arabs and a couple of Brits and Americans. In the first 15 min, it was kind of chaotic situation, no one gave explanations in English, no one provided any guidance. Several German guests were protesting loudly asking for an explanation, but the commanding police officers were confused running around without a visible plan. There were also some bizzare and funny situations: 2-3 girls who just completed their sessions but were not paid, approached their clients (escorted by police officers!) and the clients paid them right in front of the escorting policemen. After 15 min or so, groups of 2-3 girls were escorted to ladies changing room to, I guess, pick up their IDs. Some girls in the central room were teasing young policemen, and basically flerting with them. An atmosphere in a 'men area' (by the

'paying lockers') in a meantime became more intense since many bodies were squized in a relatively small space, there were no enough seats, nothing was happening, etc. All of a sudden, two Brits who were panicking the most, were allowed to approach their lockers, to dress up and get passports. Several policemen established 'a registration desk' at the reception area and the registration of guests started. After Brits, several Germans dressed up and were 'registered' too. People whose IDs and passports were checked and personal info written down, were grouped and escorted to the central room, and then after a while in groups of 4-5 escorted to main exit. Aftet an hour or so, all men with 'Aussvise' ie IDs and passports were finally allowed to approach the locker area, change clothes, and after registration, leave the Palace. Guys without IDs were singled out and I don't know what happened to them. Some of them were tourists who left their passports at hotels' reception desks or in their rooms. Two Turkish guys in the bath ropes and towels(?) were esorted to their cars parked outside to get their IDs. Several policewomen were kind of tough and gloomy. The cops did not search lockers or personal belongings at all. IMHO, the raid had nothing to do with a search for illegal substances. Even less it was a fight against prostitution in a city with RDL which is one of the sex capitals. It was a message to FKK owners and FKK consumers. Although nothing dramatically happened, a bitter taste remained, having in mind that one of the most sofisticated fkk venues was raided, international and domestic clients were in a way intimidated, their privacy was violated, while 3km away in FRA RDL and accross the Germany and Europe people were exchanging money for sexual services in much more uncontrolled and primitive circumstances. All in all, FKK concept has proven to be (so far) the most civilized and acceptible institution on the sex market. Pitty, if the Germans decide to ruin this concept and push it back to the street.

Goodtime Man

02-25-10, 21:59

...or as a guy who likes to make regular contributions to the German economy?

OThis sure might hurt the business at Hotel Flemings! It is in the middle of nowhere except that it is a hop and skip away from the Palace.

Basketcase

02-26-10, 01:45

Who's next? probably Oase LOL.
I think I will avoid Oase and the other FKKs for a little while. I think enduring a raid will be an unpleasant experience and as you say spoil the mood.

Beffen1

02-26-10, 13:53

I think I will avoid Oase and the other FKKs for a little while. I think enduring a raid will be an unpleasant experience and as you say spoil the mood.

Dude you don't know the half of it. The last Oase raid featured helicopiters and masked commandos invading the club and holding each room's occupants in flagrante delecto at gun point while everyone gathered for the festivities in the main area. Girls were crying.
Wait till the polizei see the new room!

Conversation overheard at razzia:
Poliziei-- May I see you pass port please
Girl: Yes of course
Polizei:And your finanzamt registration
Girl: Sorry, this is extra

beffen- banging his head against the wall in snowy shitty NY

Beffen1

02-26-10, 14:14

Several policewomen were kind of tough and gloomy. The cops did not search lockers or personal belongings at all. IMHO, the raid had nothing to do with a search for illegal substances. Even less it was a fight against prostitution in a city with RDL which is one of the sex capitals. It was a message to FKK owners and FKK consumers. Although nothing dramatically happened, a bitter taste remained, having in mind that one of the most sofisticated fkk venues was raided, international and domestic clients were in a way intimidated, their privacy was violated, while 3km away in FRA RDL and accross the Germany and Europe people were exchanging money for sexual services in much more uncontrolled and primitive circumstances. All in all, FKK concept has proven to be (so far) the most civilized and acceptible institution on the sex market. Pitty, if the Germans decide to ruin this concept and push it back to the street.

Grumpy female cops? Probably feminists, or maybe jealous.

This razzia was not a fight against prostitution in FFM, this was a part of the maintenance system for the FKK to remain the safe, dependable sex venue it is. It's a pain in the ass, but no threat to law abiding mongers. Better to be interrupted once in a while than have it totally verboten like here in the US. Never heard of the drug dogs being brought in in Hessen, but Sammy at PHG during my first visit told me they had the dogs in an early morning raid there that very day.

They are making sure that girls are legally working on the up and up and paying taxes. The snapshot of the male clientele that the registration desk provides is meant to weed out known pimps and assure that people leave Germany when they say they will. They shred the data on most of the guests within two weeks. That's what the guy who probed and dissected my somewhat dogeared passport for 20 minutes told me when I asked. It was dogeared from residing in my pocket everywhere I go in Germany, precisely for the eventuality we discuss here.
And don't worry about your privacy, you are being videotaped as you wipe the shower wetness from your balls or as you pick your nose in the corner couch.

Chukar

02-26-10, 15:30

I agree with Beffen's post!

Three years when I made my first visit to FKKland I was visiting Samya. This was only my 2nd club I ever attended when in walks 15-20 police in uniforms and civilian clothes. They separate the men from the ladies. All the men were asked to show IDs. When the man who appeared to be in charge approached me I started asking him questions. Isn't this a Legal business? Why am I being asked to show my passport? He was very nice and explained almost what Beffen wrote in his post.

Looking for pimps and making sure the girls were all working legally.

Other than having to stand around for awhile I had no problem and was not intimidated by the whole event. Plus the mgr came by and apologized to everyone and handed out free passes.

Funny side note there was one young pretty police lady who looked totally embarassed by the whole affair.

Smuler

02-26-10, 16:31

beffen- banging his head against the wall in snowy shitty NYC'mon Beff

It's really very beautiful out though!

I've got 2 feet already on the ground, and it's only 10 AM.

Best Regards,

Smuler

Dedalus

02-26-10, 18:54

Dude you don't know the half of it. The last Oase raid featured helicopiters and masked commandos invading the club and holding each room's occupants in flagrante delecto at gun point while everyone gathered for the festivities in the main area. Girls were crying.
Wait till the polizei see the new room!

Hey Bef,

We won't soon forget THAT day. Thought I'd never get Maria to calm down when the commando busted in on our good time.

Fortunately most raids do not go to that extreme.

Conversation overheard at razzia:
Poliziei-- May I see you pass port please
Girl: Yes of course
Polizei:And your finanzamt registration
Girl: Sorry, this is extra

beffen- banging his head against the wall in snowy shitty NY

I missed the World raid by one day (thankfully!) but as I mentioned to you via PM, last weekend the Polizei seemed to be out in force on the Autobahn. Got stopped and controlled twice: Once after leaving GT, and then just 12 hours later on the way to World. Both times they took my car apart looking for illegal substances.

Something must have been in the air.

For what it's worth, I have been through probably half a dozen or so raids at various clubs, and usually it is no big deal. However (as I and others have often pointed out) it does serve as a reminder that it is always a good idea to have one's passport along. Just saves a bucket load of trouble. Also (@Smuler and Ortos), I DID have my locker search at Babylon many years back. If one has plans to "carry", then one might take care to think ahead.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Smuler

02-26-10, 20:06

Once after leaving GT, they took my car apart looking for illegal substances.

Something must have been in the air.

Also (@Smuler and Ortos), I DID have my locker search at Babylon many years back. If one has plans to "carry", then one might take care to think ahead.Thanks for letting me know this.

Looks like the party might be over for me @ GT.

Best Regards,

Smuler

Gentleman Travel

02-26-10, 20:23

Please forgive my ignorance, but isn't this raid thing kind of facist?

I mean, if the basic activity (sex for money) is legal, then what is their justification?

If it is to check for illegal workers, that can be accomplished pretty easily without even interfering with the normal workings of the place.
If they want to round up illegal immigrants check out the maids at a major hotel, or restaurant kitchen help.
Do they do this in strip clubs also?

It can certainly be done without bothering (and registering) the male customers! This all reeks of intimidation.

And while I hear what you guys are saying about having your passport with you, may I ask why?
In Germany are you obligated to prove who you are to any policeman?
Do the police have the right to just stop random people and demand ID (passport)?
Yes you have to put up with that in Russia, but certainly not in the US and Canada.

I can see from a practical point of view you have to cooperate, to get your clothes on and get out of there, but legally, why?
What grounds do they have for restraining you (other than uniforms and guns)?
I would hate to have my name showing up on some Interpol database next time some one wants to run a security check on me...

Basketcase

02-26-10, 21:47

I missed the World raid by one day (thankfully!) but as I mentioned to you via PM, last weekend the Polizei seemed to be out in force on the Autobahn. Got stopped and controlled twice: Once after leaving GT, and then just 12 hours later on the way to World. Both times they took my car apart looking for illegal substances.
Nice one missing the World raid on Tuesday, 16 Feb.

The car I was driving in when the crew and I left FKK Sharks last week was also stopped just as we left the club at 04:00 when the girls were leaving. I guess the police thought we were pimps picking up our workers. There was another truck with a large man driver taking some girls home.

When we pulled over the side of the road, the policeman had obviously had run our licence plate through their system and realised it was a rental car.

I got asked to show my drivers licence since I was driving and my passport. I only got as far as my passport when he told me to forget it when I answered why I was in Germany, "business and just FKKing". The Francophones had explained to me to be honest if asked since at least you have a story why you are coming out of a FKK.

Second crew member only had his health card and therefore, spent his time explaining to the policeman that was interviewing him what he thought of Sharks and it was a new club and had real potential. Maybe he should visit. Policeman just listened with interest.

Last crew member was asked who he worked for after his passport got scanned with a little blue light that shows the watermarks. When the policeman heard the response he basically told us to move on.

There was not much interest in us after that. No notes taken.

Hessen Bub

02-27-10, 15:28

I hesitate to jump in...but people need to be really aware of whats going on. Its not about ID...its about RFID.

Just Google about RFID and the next thing you know, they will ask people to be micro chipped.

Nobody in Germany does really discuss this. And we do not take all 10 fingerprints when you enter Germany. ;)

Even in medical terms one should NOT have more than 5 x-rays in a year. Go to any Doctor or Google and verify.

The body scanners are NOT x-rays.

I wouldn't come off as any more the Gerichtsverbrecher than you would.

It's the still waters that are deep. Germany saying -> Stille Wasser sind tief. It's too easy to just check bold guys with muscles and tattoos. ;)

but unless I was under arrest, then I had nothing more to discuss with them.

That's one of your rights, you don't have to talk to them. Show your ID, let them inspect your car - period.

HB

Hessen Bub

02-27-10, 15:32

they come with 80 policemen to get money from working girls..

The razzia was about the club, not about the guests or the girls. It's about pimps, "Förderung der Prostitution" (promotion of prostitution?), girls below legal age. This time it wasn't even about drugs. And let's be realistic - 90% of the girls working in the clubs do not pay any tax at all or at least no full tax. ;)

HB

Dedalus

02-27-10, 15:56

It's the still waters that are deep. Germany saying -> Stille Wasser sind tief. It's too easy to just check bold guys with muscles and tattoos. ;)

Hehe! My waters aren't THAT still these days.

Interesting that you mention the big guys with tats. Reminded me that when I was leaving the Etap in West Willich on my way down south to World (before my 2nd Autobahn Kontroll) a big dude in a Mercedes pulled up beside me and had Landser blasting rather loudly through his car speakers. In my lane right behind me was a Police car.

Not saying that the guy didn't have the right to have a loud, obnoxious, rechtsradikal band blaring out into the street, disturbing my peace and not saying that the guy definitely should have been kontrolliert by the police sitting right behind me, but later I couldn't help but laugh sardonically at the situation. Whether it had been the result of cowardice, sympathy or apathy calling the shots for german cops that days ist mir egal. They lost a good deal of respect from me in THAT 12 hour period.
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That's one of your rights, you don't have to talk to them. Show your ID, let them inspect your car - period.

HB

Indeed it is.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Beffen1

02-27-10, 16:59

The razzia was about the club, not about the guests or the girls. It's about pimps, "Förderung der Prostitution" (promotion of prostitution?), girls below legal age. This time it wasn't even about drugs. And let's be realistic - 90% of the girls working in the clubs do not pay any tax at all or at least no full tax. ;)

HB

OK, so let's get down to brass tacks. HB and ded, are there any news accounts of the results of these razzia? How many illegals, male or female, were carted off from Palace and World as a result of these razzia.

Also, did the polizei cite any girls for providing bare back sex :-) ? And did the polizei recieve any gutschein from the front desks to return another day?

beffen

Dedalus

02-27-10, 17:29

OK, so let's get down to brass tacks. HB and ded, are there any news accounts of the results of these razzia? How many illegals, male or female, were carted off from Palace and World as a result of these razzia.

Also, did the polizei cite any girls for providing bare back sex :-) ? And did the polizei recieve any gutschein from the front desks to return another day?

beffen

Hey Beff,

I missed the Razzia by a day, so I couldn't say. However I doubt that many girls were swept away as illegals. Probably more of a tax control Razzia than anything else. German officials could give less than a damn about "club safety", but they DO want their share of the money pie.

Not sure if the police got any free passes for future visits (not impossible a thought though). Real questions is if any of the lady police got a look at the business, thought about how much they themselves could earn, turned in the uniform ('cept the handcuffs) and embarked on a career change.

Now and then you'll run into a Polizistin who scores high on the Hottie-Scale. More often than not the ones I see are rough and old enough to have dust on their diaphragms.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Syzygies

02-27-10, 17:40

This time it wasn't even about drugs. And let's be realistic - 90% of the girls working in the clubs do not pay any tax at all or at least no full tax. ;)

HBFrom what the Palace girls tell me, or rather complain about, they do pay tax and the amount does not depend on the number of customers, but rather depends on number of days worked, or hours or similar stuff. When I asked how much, I had to laugh :), as was a fairly trivial amount compared to normal employment, like my own tax paying.

I could see that the tax could be irritating for some girls with a scarcity of customers.

Syzygies

02-27-10, 17:50

Police has the right to demand that you identify yourself. How could you do that without an official ID? Giving a name can't be it, I can give any name.An Australian could easily forget to carry Id. In Australia there is no Id. O.K. if driving a car you can be required to show your driving licence but otherwise people can happily go around with no means of identification. Its not illegal.

Some places require proof of age (only if look too young) which could be driver's licence or "Proof of age" card.

But older guys like me wouldn't need that.

So if we give the police a name and address, it could be that of someone else.

Hessen Bub

02-27-10, 18:56

Dedalus

02-27-10, 21:40

One fake ID at Palace, one fake ID at World. At world 5 or 6 girls had to come with the police to check their identitiy, AZR did not do it. But as far as I know all of the girls (excluding the ones with fake ID) did return to the club. Line up at both clubs was good directly after the razzia. Police did make some fun with the girls at Palace, the guys at World were more serious. But always polite and quiet.

Pretty lite numbers all things considered.

By the way: bareback sex is not illegal in Hessen. ;)

HB

You don't say!

May not be illegal in Hessen, but I have a clear memory of a girl getting tossed from World in 08' for doing an open, bareback session with some dude in the Kino. Some clubs have their own laws I guess ;-))

Cheers,

Dedalus

Atooz

02-27-10, 23:55

Most people still believe 911 was carried out by Osama sitting in a cave. It was an inside job folks....since 911..our freedom have been stripped naked literally. Many folks are unaware about the dangers of naked scanners on body.
I also hesitated to jump in but couldn't resist...
I will keep an open mind but may I ask you what evidence do you have to make this grandiose charge? And what were the motives? From the sound of it, you seemed to think it was the U.S. government's desrire to control its citizens and strip away their constitutional rights. Who would this benefit? The government or are you thinking an ally or the oil companies? If it were the latter two, how would stripping our constitutional rights benefit them?
U.S. is a democracy and is governed by elected officials with checks and balances built into the different branches of government. So an attack of this scale would've involved more than a handful of people with bipartisan supports (what were the odds of that?). If Clinton couldn't even keep his BBBJ rendezvous in the Oval Office a secret, how were they able to pull this off? Would Bush be involved? How would it benefit him and his legacy? (I am no fan of Bush but I don't think he was stupid enough to try something like that or smart enough to plot something so devious.) And Osama and his deputies just gladly took the credit for something they didn't do and showed no hint of cautions against a setup? Are you suggesting Al Qaeda was on CIA payroll? Why would they and their Taliban ally accept being dislodged from power and blown into oblivion as a reward for playing along? Are these all elaborate setup to deceive the general public? If so, the probability of being able to perfectly execute such a ruse would decrease exponentially. Why would the U.S. government all of a sudden trust a band of outlaws (who also happened to be Arabs) to keep such a secret?
I personally think this is nuts. U.S. has its problems and it definitely overreacted to 911. If it weren't for Germany's FKKs, U.S. would continue to be the best country on earth IMHO.

Starchild2012

02-28-10, 07:36

I also hesitated to jump in but couldn't resist...
I will keep an open mind but may I ask you what evidence do you have to make this grandiose charge? And what were the motives? From the sound of it, you seemed to think it was the U.S. government's desrire to control its citizens and strip away their constitutional rights.

I will keep it short since this is not an appropriate forum to discuss. Check out these videos to start with ..keep an open mind...Google 911 truth movement, 991 was an inside job to learn more:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW23PuBKiA0&feature=related

But before you start....you may wanna ask yourself...

Why Bush is related to Cheney who in turn is related to Obama who in turn is related to John Kerry. If that was not enough.

Obama is related to Brad pitt, Angelina jolie, Marilyn monroe, bill clinton, hugh hefner yeah :), tom hanks, Arnold sche.. , lincoln , princess diana, celine dion...and they all are related to European royalty.

here is more

* George W. Bush to Wild Bill Hickock, Benedict Arnold, Dan Quayle and Gerald Ford.

* Clint Eastwood to Arnold Schwarzenegger.

* Richard Nixon to James Dean and Johnny Carson.

* Drew Barrymore to Shirley Temple.

* Humphrey Bogart to Audrey Hepburn.

* Truman Capote to Tennessee Williams.

* Susan B. Anthony to Emily Dickinson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ldZS9PL9KE

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/movies/brad-and-barack-long-lost-cousins/story-e6frexli-1111114748207

These are the bloodlines who been ruling us for centuries. I'm not making this up....this has been reported in mainstream press like NYT, CBS news etc..you can check for yourself. All of the 44 presidents in US had links to European royalty.

What seems natural isn't...One will be shocked to know what is really going on behind the play of CNN and BBC....they have planned a fake alien invasion in coming years.

Check the info on Freemasons and Illuminati bloodlines to know more about the reality. good luck..

Angus Magee

02-28-10, 09:04

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You!

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Papaya4711

02-28-10, 10:24

You can fuck Mitzu/Mitsu in her appartement in Frankfurt:

http://agentur-mitsu.de/home.php?content=galerie&action=zoom&aid=2359285&backlink=home.php?content=galerie&mid=0,1#goto_image

But be careful, there's users in German boards pushing the place and reports about fake pictures and poor service, even from Mitsu. I had a good session with her at Palace.

HBI checked the appartement yesterday. Only one Eastern European blonde there, no Asian girls. I was told Mitsu is never present there. She can only be booked through the website mentioned above by HessenBub already.

Charges according to the Website:

Classic Escort (no sex) 250 EUR per hour;

Escort: Minimum fee 950 EUR (3 hours), 2500 EUR (overnight, 12 hours)

Hessen Bub

02-28-10, 11:39

May not be illegal in Hessen, but I have a clear memory of a girl getting tossed from World in 08' for doing an open, bareback session with some dude in the Kino. Some clubs have their own laws I guess ;-))

Most of the clubs would throw out a girl if they find out she does bareback. But beffen was asking about the police citing girls for BB.

HB

Myrmidon

02-28-10, 15:54

Most of the clubs would throw out a girl if they find out she does bareback. But beffen was asking about the police citing girls for BB.

HB
Perhaps I'm old fashioned & out of step here; but in this day and age I think they should bounce her & him. Consensualy engaging in BBBJ & DATY once you understand the 'risks' is one thing. But IMHO, BBFS has no place there. It is shear nonsence to engage in this activity in light of todays STI climate. Hope I'm not just being an old prude and hope this is not occuring too much in the clubs.

Hessen Bub

02-28-10, 16:25

this is not occuring in the clubs.

It is. But there's a simple way to protect yourself: Don't allow bare back sex.

HB

Atooz

02-28-10, 16:42

[color=#003300]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You!

With all due respect, we have all from time to time got off topics. I usually do not get opinionated especially on a forum like this. But sometimes you have to call people out when they make wild assertion (not allegation) about something without proof or basis in fact (still nothing after the rambling rant in this case, at least to a logical person. Great imaginations though.). Next thing you know, we may receive personal opinion about mongering venues/girls/trends/laws presented as fact.
Now that I've said it, no more comments from me on this topic.

Gaffer

03-06-10, 20:55

Paid the club a visit Friday afternoon 5.3.2010 and was surprised over the poor quality of the lineup. Okay, I was only in the club for about 3 hours.

Noticed that the ticket now is raised to 75 Euro. The providers seems to have been long time in business and I am sure the number of providers were much too below standard for a Friday afternoon.

Went up to World instead and found a much better line up and a happy disco Friday night.

Took a 1. Hour session with beautiful Romanian blonde (fake) named Marina.

Hessen Bub

03-07-10, 13:33

Paid the club a visit Friday afternoon 5.3.2010 and was surprised over the poor quality of the lineup. Okay, I was only in the club for about 3 hours.

Noticed that the ticket now is raised to 75 Euro.

Wrong time. Palace starts to get busy after 5 or 6 pm. There's quite a few new girls at Palace.

And ticket has been 75 EUR for the last 3 years. You could have chosen the "Business tariff": Pay 75 EUR and get 25 EUR back if you leave within 2 hours.

HB

Vito Corleone

03-08-10, 03:55

Paid the club a visit Friday afternoon 5.3.2010 and was surprised over the poor quality of the lineup. Okay, I was only in the club for about 3 hours.

Noticed that the ticket now is raised to 75 Euro. The providers seems to have been long time in business and I am sure the number of providers were much too below standard for a Friday afternoon.

HB is correct. You should have waited for the evening shift to arrive. World has their moments, but the current lineup @ Palace is pretty hard to beat.

Entry is now 75E! Wow! This is urgent news!

DecentDude

03-08-10, 07:08

Forcharles

03-09-10, 04:08

I plan to be at Palace the last Tuesday of the month March 30. The website says that is "Glamour Night". Has anyone experienced that event? What is it like?

Is it worth a visit?

Angus Magee

03-09-10, 08:25

Thanks for your thoughts and I am a newb, so please humor me:)

Hi,

Well you seem like a Decentdude;-) so I will not jump all over you & your post. But I will suggest that you maybe post it in a different thread. This topic has been discussed here and in other threads, let us say, more than once.

So if you really are interested I suggest you narrow it down a bit, name you fears and ask away in perhaps the General Info thread. Also you could search the forums a bit. As I say, it has been addressed before.

Supersonick

03-09-10, 08:45

Hello guys,

On my visit last April, there was this dark short haired tall kind of big girl from Russia (Kazan) whose name escapes me. Any idea if she is still around?

Thanx a lot.

Mike De H

03-09-10, 17:00

Hi,

I know this question has been asked ad nauseam, but would like the boards thoughts on diseases from sessioning?

In particular, I was curious to hear if anyone on the board came down with something that could be attributable to their time in the FFK?

In short, if I put on the umbrella always, am I going to be ok?

Thanks for your thoughts and I am a newb, so please humor me:)

What I found personally and talking to others, was you can sometimes pick up a bit of tonsilitis (I think its called the epstein-barr virus, Google it if you want - I am sure I will be corrected) if you do a lot of kissing. Then you will be tolerant to it. If you have a private doctor and you get a bit , then have him give you a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory injection and the simptoms will dissapear like magic. If you have a health service they tell you to go away usually :) Don't bother with antibiotics as you will recover OK on your own, unless you get a bad bout of it. Its something that can happen or can not happen and a small price to pay.

I know a couple of guys who got gonorrhea through bareback blowjobs, but only two of those, since 2005, and both were big time users of girls and older guys to boot. Again. a short course of antibiotics should cure that.

Apart from those two cases, I and every other monger I have known in the last five years have come completely clean when checked. I got a urinary problem a few months ago that I thought could have been from a girl, but the clinic did all the tests and said it was probably an allergic reaction to soap, that irritates the urethra. I drank lots of water and it went away. So the only problems I ever got was from showering and kissing and nothing from sex, in five years of fairly heavy use of prostitutes.

I never heard of anyone getting genital warts or mollescum or HIV. These diseases are very, very hard to catch if you use condoms properly.

If you do bareback (only a fool thinks it is not around, as everything possible with human beings, we are all flawed) then obviously you are taking a risk. You are on your own if you do this, but despite this subject coming up more and more as people are more open about it (being a taboo subject for many years) it is very much a monority experience and probably occours at the same rate it has always occoured. The statistical risks are just not documented and the evidence is all anecdotal like mine. Nobody seems to properly study brothels and sex workers without there being a political agenda attached. The worst case scenario is, you get the clap, or an incurable disease. Best case, you get lucky and get nothing.

You are safe if you behave yourself :) I take all my advice from medically qualified people in the Hobby as ordinary Joe's like me, just get it wrong when left to draw their own conclusions.

Excess

03-09-10, 19:59

Can report having picked up several bouts of a raging desire to return to FKK`s for a further dose of the same.

Easy to cure: € 50 - until the next episode.

There consider yourself humored, Decentdude, and enjoy :-).

E.

Hi,

Thanks for your thoughts and I am a newb, so please humor me:)

Toscana

03-10-10, 10:02

Sensible advice, Mike.

But I'm a bit worried about this...
both were big time users of girls and older guys to boot.I'll clearly have to cut back on the older guys.

Mike De H

03-10-10, 13:13

Sensible advice, Mike.

But I'm a bit worried about this...I'll clearly have to cut back on the older guys.

I think I will leave that one to stand. :D

Maybe explains why my back passage is so sore at the moment.

Hessen Bub

03-10-10, 16:12

I plan to be at Palace the last Tuesday of the month March 30. The website says that is "Glamour Night". Has anyone experienced that event? What is it like?

Is it worth a visit?

Girls from 6pm on will wear long black evening dresses.

HB

Mass Monger

03-11-10, 22:19

This info is included in the Frankfurt section but is repeated here.

Mass Monger

I took a taxi to the Palace after having misunderstood the U-Bahn map. I got there about 8 PM.

I first chose Stella, a tall dark hair, dark complexion girl from Moldavia. She was very pretty with small-medium breasts and slim figure. I forgot to stipulate lekken (DATY) and kussen in advance, and she would not do it unless I paid more. I did get some small kisses. Otherwise the performance was OK. BBBJ was good. I had a hard time keeping from coming, in part because she was so very, very pretty. I did enjoy it.

Next I chose Ada from Brazil. She was a very sexy girl with very large and firm natural the breasts. She was an exception to the rule stated in my Berlin post that large stick-out the tits are plastic, natural ones hang down a little. Some very young girls can have large, natural, firm, stick-out tits like Ada. (Note that I asked her about her tits and I also could feel the difference). She was quite friendly. She had agreed to lekken and kussen. Nice performance. I enjoyed it. GFE.

Kim from Thailand: Lots of tattoos. Pretty but a little hard in her performance. Ok session with a little lekken and a little kussen. She did not do a BBBJ because I did the lekken. I was disappointed but I did not complain.

Micky from Thailand. She was a very pretty Thai girl who was very friendly. She had small but natural and nice breasts. We had to wait for room. We cuddled and kissed during that time. In the room I dry fucked her from the rear including bare rubbing of genitals. This was very sexy but dangerous. I am taking antibiotics for a cold so I think it will be ok. Nice Bare back BJ (from all the girls). This one was unusually good. DATY and she seemed to enjoy it. Fucked with her on top and then missionary – did this with all of the girls. She was very friendly and this was the best encounter of the night. I highly recommend Micky.

Marina from Bulgaria. An attractive an sensual looking woman (not a girl), probably 35 years old. She was medium tall with large natural see or the breasts. We had a nice cuddle while waiting for the room. I massaged her and after a while, I pressed her nice breasts in rhythm with the music. Went to the room and she tried to upgrade me for an hour for lekken and kussen (to which she had agreed earlier for ½ hour). She finally agreed for the original ½ hour time peried – 50 Euro for both kussen and lekken, but she did not follow through. Into the session after the BBBJ she said that kissing her breasts counted as lekken, so I could not do it. I did not argue. It would have been a no-win exercise. At the end of the FK, me on top, I came hard and felt great, but she removed my cock from her ASAP. This was obviously a bad choice of girls, but at least I got my rocks off and part of the time she was quite friendly.

Mass Monger

Dan Danger

03-12-10, 00:31

I decided to treat myself to Palace by flying via FRA rather than direct which meant I was there from 3 PM to 7. 30PM as after this I had a flight to catch.

The selection of girls during the day is low, but the number of guys is also low so if there is someone attractive it's easy to attract her attention.

My usual plan is to sit at the entrance bar and have something to drink, relax and see the girls in a non selling environment. Especially I watch when they come from a session, how they behave to see if they're mechanical or friendly.

The first session was with Alexandra who claims to be Italian but probably is Romanian. Black hair, pretty face young looking body and friendly attitude. In the room we had some DFK, DATY and then a blowjob. She wasn't the deepest but nonetheless energetic and "fake" passionate which I appreciated. Overall experience was 7/10 but keep in mind it was my first session in some time. One thing I did not like is that she asked for a tip at the end.

After a (too short) break was Linda from Czech republic. This is a girl I just really like as someone to chat with and her attitude, but unfortunately it was just too soon and I couldn't perform adequately for some real fun with her.

After this I took a longer break, had something to eat and also noticed that a lot of girls were now coming in and also more men were showing up (around 6PM). Then I noticed the sweet, adorable blonde "Olimpia". This girl is just my type so I immediately grabbed her. With I we did a lot of DFK and then a nice BBBJ, followed by mish. Looking at that very pretty face it was a real pleasure to just finish off inside her. The session was not rushed, she was active but not pushy and overall I'd rate this a 9/10 experience.

As always, your mileage can vary.

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