FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[Vito Corleone]

Thanks HB! Another question - just noticed the Palace introduced "a la carte" dining. Is that included in the price of admission or is that like a regular restaurant - you pay for what you eat?
Everithing is included except for the liquor & massage.

[Australiasucks]

Plenty of Indonesian food too!


The only place near Germany that has many Indonesian restaurants is Amsterdam, and its so weak compared to the real thing. If it cannot make me run to the toilet in 5 minutes its not authentic.

[Hessen Bub]

Thanks HB! Another question - just noticed the Palace introduced "a la carte" dining. Is that included in the price of admission or is that like a regular restaurant - you pay for what you eat?

VC is not quite right. The "normal" food offer at the buffet in the restaurant is included. But now the have an a la carte offer - means you can order steaks and more from a menu, the food is being prepared in the Fleming's Hotel next door and delivered to Palace. That you have to pay. Menu is available in the restaurant.

HB

[Vito Corleone]

VC is not quite right. The "normal" food offer at the buffet in the restaurant is included. But now the have an a la carte offer - means you can order steaks and more from a menu, the food is being prepared in the Fleming's Hotel next door and delivered to Palace. That you have to pay. Menu is available in the restaurant.

HB
Good to know. I did not notice the other menu in Feb. I know some guys who like to leave the club & eat steaks @ the hotel & return later.

A nice juicy steak sounds good after banging Cheyenne for a couple of hours.

[Basketcase]

A nice juicy steak sounds good after banging Cheyenne for a couple of hours.
Hmmmm, Steak.... Shayenne / Cheyenne ..... Steak ..... Shayenne / Cheyenne.

Tough choice.

[Akibono]

VC is not quite right. The "normal" food offer at the buffet in the restaurant is included. But now the have an a la carte offer - means you can order steaks and more from a menu, the food is being prepared in the Fleming's Hotel next door and delivered to Palace. That you have to pay. Menu is available in the restaurant.

HB


Flemings serves excellent food. Nice touch. If only the girls were better.

[Syzygies]

The talent at the Palace was very good today. Seem to be a few very pretty new girls this year.

My only complaint would be that there seem to be over 50% of girls with bolt-ons these days. Angellica and Nichole have been sporting new sets this year. I don't mind very subtle enhancements but the pair-of-coconuts brigage with ridiculous sets don't thrill me, e.g. Mercedes, Vanessa, Gina, etc. Pity about Vanessa's tits as her bum is quite superb.

Luckily there are still plenty of naturals around but a pity Indira doesn't seem to be there these days. Her set were great.

On topic of food, one customer brought in his own sushi today and took his favourite girl to eat in the restaurant at about 6PM. Its roped off at this time, so they had it all to themselves.

I heard that the Palace has been very quiet for customers last Thursday, so many girls finding it tough to make good money. Today (Saturday) was definitely a lot better for customers, but still heaps of good looking girls available.

[Sebastiane]

After a month or so off I went to Palace earlier this evening assuming that since it was a Saturday the place would be packed with lots of lovely girls. I got there around 6 pm and there weren't so many girls and very few in the 8-10 category, quite a few of the regulars who are always there, and most of my faves missing. A few 7s and a few new faces but no one to make me think, "Wow! Must have her now! " (See my numerous previous reports to see what I mean!)

A lot of guys lying around. Though it is nicer when not so busy in the sense that girls try harder and give you more attention, the quality today was not upto the usual standards. Still, I saw one girl I quite liked who also had a pleasant personality and went with her: Flora from Bulgaria. Tallish, dirty blonde, slim, mid 20s. Not a great beauty but sweet and attractive. It was a decent session but not GFE. Rating: Body 8 Face 7 Performance 6 Repeat? MayB.

I then ate the excellent food (Palace really does have very good food!) and went to the sauna hoping that there'd be better quality later in the evening. After the shower following the sauna there wasn't much improvement from my POV and so after watching and waiting a bit longer I decided to call it quits for the evening.

I'm sure things will improve. I may return early on Monday or Tue hoping to see the beautiful Saskia again since she works weekdays. (Still, where has the small but perfectly formed blonde German Sophie gone? Or vivacious Marina? Or the other beauties I mention on here along with others?

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[Sebastiane]

a pity Indira doesn't seem to be there these days. Her set were great.yes I really miss her. She was very beautiful with a perfect natural body including magnificent tits. Though she could be moody if she liked you she gave a fantastic GFE and really enjoyed her job or gave that impression. Has she gone to another club? Natasha. Her cousin allegedly. Has also gone for good it seems although her tale (as I've heard it) is quite romantic. Miss her badly. The current crop of Romanians don't have anyone of that calibre IMHO. If anyone knows of one let me know!

Talking of lovely natural sets Saskia also has a great pair and so does martha and sophies were also good though slightly slight. Right now saskia is the main reason I keep returning.

[Drew 0303]

At least I think that is what her name was. Just a lovely well proportioned blond I GFEd with on several occasions in 2004-2006. She even wanted me to go to Cocoon with her after a session, but it was for another evening. Anyone seen this girl anywhere? I think she told me she comes from Duesseldorf.

[Hessen Bub]

At least I think that is what her name was. Just a lovely well proportioned blond I GFEd with on several occasions in 2004-2006. She even wanted me to go to Cocoon with her after a session, but it was for another evening. Anyone seen this girl anywhere? I think she told me she comes from Duesseldorf.

Sunny, slim, some tattoos? She was at World for a while, with a pair of new huge tits. Haven't seen her for a while.

HB

[Drew 0303]

Nice lineup on Tuesday, I also liked the new dining facility. Anyone meet Melissa, an impressive German blond? I would have had a session but was too tired and had to leave.

Natascha was an optic gal, lots of baby baby baby. Well, she was hot looking.

Better was Christina from Hungary: not as good looking but more real.

Anyway, a fun evening.

[Boofer]

will the clubs have a good line up in easter weekend?

[Vito Corleone]

will the clubs have a good line up in easter weekend?
I have had seen some of the best lineups during Easter. Best time is 4:00am-10:00am. Off the hook lineup!

[Sebastiane]

I went to palace last Friday at around 11 pm. That's the latest i've ever been. It was busy with lots of guys lounging around waiting for the better girls to come out of the rooms. I joined them as the talent on display wasn't so hot. Eventually I was tempted by this Romanian girl called marguerita or something who had an average face but a very nice slender body with a great ass. I had gone a few days without sexual release so fucked very hard. It was a great fuck but not gfe only very sexual. A nice girl. I had fucked for so long she said her legs were too tired and I hadn't come yet so she finished me off by hand.

I came loads !! Face 6 body 9 performance 8 repeat probably

After that I showered and stayed around for another hour or so but none of the girls appealed to me whom I had nt been with before and none of the ones I sought were working so at about 12.45 am I left.

Sadly I won't be there for the Easter weekend as I need a new supergirl!

[Big30]

Luckily there are still plenty of naturals around but a pity Indira doesn't seem to be there these days. Her set were great.

Indira ex-Lavinia PHG and Oase is now working in Living Room and her name is now Mona, Ellis (Serbian) also from Palace joined her.

B30

[Myrmidon]

Indira ex-Lavinia PHG and Oase is now working in Living Room, Ellis (Serbian) also from Palace joined her.

B30
Indira's photos are still on the Palace web site. When I was there last year a couple of her photos were on the panel outside the Palace front door.

Myr.

[Big30]

Indira's photos are still on the Palace web site. When I was there last year a couple of her photos were on the panel outside the Palace front door.

Myr.

Websites are not always up-dated! But indeed #58-66 that is her. I am sure you will find more girls on the Palace website that are now longer there :).
No idee actually how long and if she will stay, October 2009 she was also only for a few days at her old base Happy Garden.
March 25 was her first day in LR. We will see!

B30

[Hessen Bub]

photos were on the panel outside the Palace front door.


They still are. Why should they take pictures from beautiful girls off? ;)

Thx for her whereabouts, maybe I'll visit her later this month.

HB

[Ararat]

Visited Palace during Ambiente Messe almost two months ago. I just realised I never wrote anything about it.

I have previously been to Artemis and Oase a couple of times at each place and generally like the experience. I decided this time I would visit Palace instead to sample the atmosphere.

I arrived during the early evening and changed into the FKK uniform. First thing was looking around and soon I noticed that the quality of girls was high. Probably higher than at the other FKKs I've been too. I was aware of the shark reputation the Palace providers have so wanted to be careful. I didn't succeed completely because the first session was with an Egyptian(Mercedes?) who immediately turned into upsell mode. She did what I expected from her but the upsell attempts were a bit irritating. During my rest period I noticed a few familiar girls, among them a Thai I've seen at Oase with lots of tatoos. I also saw Hungarian Martina who previously was at Artemis and who was in a video about Artemis from a couple of years ago. She was a decent session. Some of the girls didn't respect that guys wanted to rest but most did so it's not a big deal. I ended up the evening with another Thai that I don't remember the name of. She sat near the entrance and just waited to be picked up. Her body wasn't that great but she performed well and it was a good way to end the evening.

In the end I went to the hotel satisfied with the experience but will probably go to Oase during my next visits.

[Syzygies]

A lot more alcholic drinks are now available, at steep prices.

Several very pretty new girls this year, whether blonde, brunette, or black girls. (I go for Gazelles)

Some notable girls missing these days: Indira (at Living Room - see below), Brazil Kim, Dee-dee (Thai), Daniella, and even Angelina doesn't seem to be around when I have been there recently.

A few girls sporting newish tit jobs (not an improvement for my taste):
Nicholle, Angelica, a very tall Russian (forgot the name), and another pretty German blonde.

[Vincent Jr]

See the Frankfurt thread for a previous post.

I arrived at around 14:30 and was welcomed by an old lady who started to talk to me in German. When she saw I was confused she switched to English and asked me if it was my first time there. I said yes and she started to explain the rules I already know from this board. She then told me something about the time but as her English was not good enough and as I was distracted by naked girls walking inside, I couldn’t get very well what she said but I understood though that if I stayed less than 2 hours or so, when leaving I could recoup some money back of the 75 euros entry fee.

She then wrapped a band around my wrist and wrote the time on it. Then she asked me about my shoes size and gave me a brown robe and the key to my locker. I followed a man to the lockers room, took off my clothes, put on the robe and took a shower. When I got out of the changing room, I was completely blown away by what I saw. I have read some posts here before and checked out their website but nothing replaces a real experience.

I started walking around with an amazed face and all the naked girls looking at me. I decided to discover the place first and as I was taking the small stairs up to the Jacuzzi area, a girl grabbed my arm and made me sit next to her on the black couch. She was an Italian girl from Bari who asked me where I was going, I told her that I was discovering the place and then she knew it was my first time and told me that there is nothing to discover and that the place was quite small. She then started to point with her hand and saying this is the Jacuzzi, this is the sauna, the first bar, the second bar, the restaurant is near the entrance and the rooms in this direction. While I was turning my head trying to see all these, she started caressing my chest, cheeks and lips and said if I wanted to go with her to a room.

As I didn’t like the girl very much, I declined her offer with the excuse that I have just arrived and needed some time to relax. She then said no problem and wished me good stay. Sometime later while walking I was approached by a Romanian girl who cuddled me and didn’t want to leave me until I took her arms off my shoulders and walked away. After discovering the club, I sat by the bar near the Jacuzzi and ordered a Pepsi.

While sipping my drink, a girl who showed up out of nowhere, put her forearms on my lap and her head only few inches from mine. She introduced herself as Gina or something like this (again bad memory with foreign names) from the Czech Republic. She was an ok girl but the best in my opinion among the girls present at that time. She had an olive skin, fake tits and big eyes. She invited me to a room and started praising her services saying that she is good in bed, does a wonderful blowjob, and so on and that she has a beautiful girlfriend who can join us if I wanted. As I was horny by that time, I accepted her offer but said only you. She took me to a very nice room with big mirror on the wall and she laid a cover on the bed. I took off my robe and laid next to her in the bed and then she said that she needs to explain something to me before we get started.

She said that she offers basic blowjob and sex for 30 minutes for 50 euros. But for 60 minutes and 100 euros she would offer me a more sensual and unrushed sex and that she would be like my girlfriend. From what I can read in this board you guys call this kind of girls sharks and at some point I thought about stopping the session and getting out of the room but again I was quite horny and she was the only doable girl for me at that time so I said ok but only for 30 minutes and 50 euros.

She said ok but I could see in her eyes that she was upset. She then started caressing my cock till it got hard and wanted to blow me. I stopped her and asked for a condom then she gave me a very mechanic CBJ. At that point, I was sure I was about to get a terrible service and wanted to finish quickly and get out. So I took her missionary and few minutes later I realized I was not going to finish quickly if at all. We changed to doggy but the same problem again.

At that point, I could abandon the session altogether but I didn’t want my first FKK experience to end up like this so I told her that I was ok for one hour session and at that point her attitude completely transformed. It was like if she was another girl. She gave me a lot of cuddling, fondling, kissing, very nice blowjob and many positions all this with a big smile on her face. Yes she said the truth when she said she would be like my girlfriend. However, I still couldn’t finish and when I was tired and couldn’t fuck anymore she took the condom off and finished me with her both hands.

We chatted for a bit while caressing each other before we left the room and paid her 100 euros + 10 euros tip. She told me that I needed some food and rest now and advised me not to have sex for many hours to fully recover. Later that afternoon whenever our paths crossed she gave me a smile, a wink or a flying kiss. From this first experience I realized what is stated under the logo of this board: “Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac” for the working girls.

After that I took a shower, some lunch (not very good but ok) and went to the sauna. The guy “running” the sauna is very friendly and showed me the shelf at the entrance where to put my glasses before entering. After the sauna, shower again and I wanted a massage as I was still very tired. The lady doing the massage was relatively old and very friendly and smiling. She noted my name on her timetable and asked me to come back one hour later as she was still busy with another man. During that one hour I wandered around and was again approached by many girls. Some were very gentle and tried to seduce me, some were very rude and wanted to get me to a room immediately. I also noticed that in the reading area near the massage place and in the restaurant girls don’t approach guys. Maybe it’s a rule but I can’t tell for sure as it was my first time there. The massage was good and when she was done I thanked her and paid her 60 euros for one hour massage front and back.

After the massage, took a shower and dinner (rice, chicken, and fruits) and it was really good having dinner with topless girls all around. After dinner I felt horny again and went hunting for a girl. I sat on one of the couches near the entrance of the rooms’ area and started looking at the girls. There were some girls who came and sat next to me and wanted to get me to a room immediately. Some tried to turn me on by kissing, caressing, or even putting their hands under the robe and stroking my cock. Some did not approach me until I gave them a smile. And some did not approach at all.

By 23:00, the place was starting to get crowded. More girls, more men, more rhythmic music, some girls doing some pole dancing, others some belly dancing with Turkish music. I was approached by this nice Magyar girl called Natasha (not sure again) who when I declined her offer (as I wanted to see more girls), gave me a kiss and said see you later if you change your mind. She was not the best looking girl there but she had something special about her and for some reason I knew it would be a nice session with her.

Later I was looking for her and found her laying her head on her friend’s lap on one of the couches. I sat next to her and said do you remember me, she said of course and after a quick chat I invited her to a room and she accepted willingly. Learning from my previous experience that same day, first thing I told her in the room was that I wanted to book her for one hour and her face was shining when she answered ok. I told her that I want a very slow and sensual experience, she said ok and took me on her arms and started kissing, fondling, cuddling and it felt really good. Her skin was silky soft and after some 10 minutes or so she asked me if I smoke. I said no but I didn’t mind if she did. She said ok but we had to move to a smoking room first which we did and on the way to the smoking room she went to the bar and brought two drinks for us.

In the room again she lit a cigarette and started smoking while I was playing with her nice small tits and wonderful soft ass cheeks. Then she started talking about her life and family and shared with me some very intimate details of her personal life and I knew she was not lying. We spent like 30 minutes only playing with our bodies and doing me lots of BBBJ and BLS in many positions. Normally I don’t do any of DFK, BBBJ, DATY with working girls but I made an exception to this rule with her and allowed her to blow me uncovered.

Later we fucked in every position that I knew about and she was willing to please me in every possible way. As the hour came to an end I was horny as hell and wanted to finish on her beautiful face. I came in loads all over her cheeks, mouth and chest. When we finished we stood on our knees facing the mirror while she cleaned her face with some paper and me cleaning her beautiful body. We got out and walked arm in arm to the locker room where I paid her 160 euros: 100 for one hour + 50 for extra COF + 10 tip. This was one of the most satisfying sessions I’ve ever paid for.

I took a shower, changed and headed out. The lady at the reception (not the one in the afternoon) asked me how my time was, I said it was excellent. I headed back to my hotel room where I slept like a baby.

Total damage: 2,3 (u-bahn) + 75 (entry) + 110 (Gina) + 60 (massage) + 160 (Natasha) + 2,3 (u-bahn) = 409,6 euros.

On Thursday, I decided to go to Oase.

See the FKK Oase for the next post.

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[Strato]

Quite honestly, I cannot justify paying 15 E for a beer.

My strategy has ben to simply bring my own. Keep it in the locker.

Works for me.

Strato


A lot more alcholic drinks are now available, at steep prices.

Several very pretty new girls this year, whether blonde, brunette, or black girls. (I go for Gazelles)

Some notable girls missing these days: Indira (at Living Room - see below), Brazil Kim, Dee-dee (Thai), Daniella, and even Angelina doesn't seem to be around when I have been there recently.

A few girls sporting newish tit jobs (not an improvement for my taste):
Nicholle, Angelica, a very tall Russian (forgot the name), and another pretty German blonde.

[Hessen Bub]

Beer is 6 EUR. Not 15 EUR.

And Mercedes does an excellent job for 50 EUR.

HB

[Mambomike]

At that point, I could abandon the session altogether but I didn’t want my first FKK experience to end up like this so I told her that I was ok for one hour session and at that point her attitude completely transformed. It was like if she was another girl. She gave me a lot of cuddling, fondling, kissing, very nice blowjob and many positions all this with a big smile on her face. Yes she said the truth when she said she would be like my girlfriend. However, I still couldn’t finish and when I was tired and couldn’t fuck anymore she took the condom off and finished me with her both hands.


Nice salvage of an otherwise lackluster first session, but you could have just as well bought into the upsell with no improvement in attitude or service.

As a former newbie, I would strongly advise any FKK newbie to do their homework online and take a well reviewed girl for their first session, rather than someone unknown. After you have honed your skills and your radar is tuned in, then you can explore untested waters.

[Sebastiane]

Went to Palace in the early evening around 5 hoping to see Saskia there and initially couldn´t find her but did see quite a lot of new girls and, as the evening progressed, one of the best line ups I´ve ever seen in Palace. There were gorgeous girls everywhere and quite a few I´ve not seen before. The qualitymeter at Palace is def set to high at the moment!

Well, I prefer the much more relaxed daytime/early evening mood and initially just sat around and observed the naked lithe babes many of whom I´d been with before but many whom were new. Made some small chat with some and then spotted the lovely blonde German girl Melissa whom I´ve sessioned with once before. Quite tall, amazing breasts (quite large), an attractive face, and well toned body. Well I just approached her and decided to go to the room without any negotiation! It started off on a slightly sour note when she informed she wont do DFK but it just got better and better after that although my beard stubble irritated her pussy so I switched to licking her arsehole instead!

Fucked for a while with her on top in various positions and finally came in her mouth. A good session, not GFE but fun with a lovely girl. Eye candy! face 7/8
Body 9 Performance 8 Repeat? Yes! 100 euros

Then just after I´d paid her who did I spot but Saskia, sitting aloof and empress-like at the gambling machines. I greeted her and took in her breathtaking beauty once more and she said she would see me in half an hour. I wanted to book her for an hour but she said she was going to go after eating and could only do half an hour. So I went and waited for her meeting a couple of lovely girls in the meantime including a new voluptuous dark haired German girl calling herself Monique who is on my To Do list (pun intended!)

Well after some time Saskia got herself a drink and came to me and we went to a room which was poorly lit but still, it was a total GFE and though I wasn´t able to come so soon after coming before and she didnt want to extend it we still ended up spending well more than the 30 minutes just cuddling and canoodling and acting like lovers. (Its all a make-belief world but its very easy to get carried away and at one point I was a bit embarassed to hear myself whispering, "I love you!" and I immediately added a qualifier but she didnt say anything and just smiled! ) Eventually I had to go and paid her 100 and she DFK me and then I went to get some salad from the food bar and was delighted when she came and joined me. We spoke about favourite places to eat in FFM and made other small chat. Then she left. I finished off my plate and then showered and left. As I was leaving I saw her at the same spot with the gambling machine and heard her refuse an older guy telling him she was about to go.

Looks 10 Body 9 Performance 10 Repeat: Fuck yeah! If I could afford it I think I´d keep her as my geisha! Or as a permanent escort and pay her 10K a week...alas I cannot! For my money, the sweetest, most classically beautiful girl in Palace since I´ve been going there. Marriage material!!!

On my way out I spotted a couple more stunners but will have to leave them to another time.

[Vale64]

I went to Palace in november 2009 and, unfortunately, didn't take notes of exact names of the girls. I will try to give you some suggestions, by heart, and use a question mark near the lady which name is uncertain.

My ratings are expressed as follows:
***** top quality
**** excellent
*** very good
** good
* poor

Julia (Czech Republic): ** : blonde, BBBJ, no FK, no DATY
Marika ? (Poland): **** : brunette, BBBJ, FK, DATY, GFE attitude
Daria (Czech Republic): *** : brunette, BBBJ, no FK, DATY
Janika ? (Poland): **** : blonde, stunner, BBBJ, FK, DATY, GFE attitude
Felicia (Cuba): ***** : creole, BBBJ, FK, DATY, ASS (+50 €), GFE attitude
Karen (Ukraine): * : stunner, ex model, very cold, BBBJ, no FK, no DATY

[Diefrankfurter]

I'm in Frankfurt and alone for a couple of days.

Should I go to Oase or Palace. Palace is closer to me.

[Suller Joe]

Seen her around? Looking for an opportunity to repeat.

[Marine One]

Then just after I´d paid her who did I spot but Saskia, sitting aloof and empress-like at the gambling machines. Interesting report Sybarite . . . what does Saskia look like, BTW?

[Ed Setra]

I'm in Frankfurt and alone for a couple of days.

Should I go to Oase or Palace. Palace is closer to me.

If you have a couple of days why not try both. I certainly would.

[Mambomike]

Fucked for a while with her on top in various positions and finally came in her mouth.


This stunt certainly appears to require a quite long cock, or was your girl very short?

[Sebastiane]

Mambomike,

To read descriptions of saskia just search for "saskia" in the palace thread or look at some of my past posts. In short, she is a blonde german girl with the most perfect face. And gives amazing GFE.

[Dandriller]

Had a short session at Palace yesterday (Thursday) from around 3pm-4:30pm and couldn't believe how many guys were there at that time.

Maybe it's the time of year or the the advertising they are doing. I noticed two mobile advertising cars outside the club as I walked in and while at my hotel which is well outside Frankfurt, there was a taxi with huge Palace advertising on each side.

I wasn't initially impressed with the selection of ladies, there were plenty, but so many guys also meant it was hard to see the full range in a short space of time. There were too few darker ladies, which is what I look for, so after relaxing near the bar I decided to spend some time in the Kino.

It was suspiciously empty in the Kino, even though there were so many guys outside. I climbed up to the back wall and started watching porn.

A couple of girls came in which I declined their company and then in came Yana (EE cups) who asked if she could sit with me. I said OK and she immediately started caressing me and licking my nipples. I told her to slow down and she said it's OK she will take her time. Then another girl joined her and started the same thing, to which I also asked to slow down. Eventually I said to the second girl that I was not interested in a session with 2 girls and she left. Now I hadn't even decided if I wanted to session with Yana, but she seemed to think she had been given the green light. I told her so and she complained and said "what do you think the girls are here for? " and that I had agreed to session with her. I told her I said yes for her to sit and I assumed we would discuss whether an arrangement could be made. Anyway I gave in and let her blow me but it was not good and I finished the session after about 5 minutes. I gave her 50 euro and felt very annoyed with myself for allowing her to shark me.

After that disappointment I returned to the lounge near the bar. Then I spotted a petite black girl sitting at the bar. She had a pretty face and although I was making eye contact, she did not approach. I wanted to session with her so I approached her as she was returning to the bar after going elsewhere for a minute. Her name is Quinny and she is from Stuttgart via Kenya. She has a lovely smile and a great compact body. Her breast are only small but has a great ass and a tattoo on her abdomen. She came and sat with me and was very GFE, although there was no DFK. She said she had only worked at Palace for a couple of weeks.

I decided to take her to a room as I wanted to see this girl in light while we sessioned as the Kino is too dark. We stood at the foot of the bed just LFK and carressing each other for a while like lovers. She asked if I liked blowjobs to which of course I replied yes. I told her I wanted to eat her pussy though and started that first. She had a sweet pussy and I continued for 5 minutes before repositioning to 69. She seemed to enjoy my attention to her pussy and I even licked her asshole. Her blowing was very enjoyable but unfortunately I wasn't able to see because of the position. She was able to bring me to orgasm and as I felt it approaching I took my cock out of her mouth so that I didn't cum in her mouth.

After that we just sat on the bed looking into each others eyes with me telling her how gorgeous she was. It was like we were lovers that had just met. It was very enjoyable and I hope she will be there the next time I am, which I also told her. I gave her 50 euro and went to see if there were any other interesting girls available.

I did see Crystal from Martinique and spoke to her but I declined as I needed more recovery time. I then decided that I would leave as there just seemed to be more and more guys arriving. I collected my 25 euro refund and departed.

[Sebastiane]

I know its not the right forum but I was wondering if anyone on here has been to the Babylon? I know its expensive but it seems something one should try once in a lifetime at least.

So any detailed feedback would be great especially about the quality of the girls.

[Angus Magee]

I know its not the right forum but I was wondering if anyone on here has been to the Babylon? I know its expensive but it seems something one should try once in a lifetime at least.

So any detailed feedback would be great especially about the quality of the girls.

I read your question just after having seen this thread

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=623

in Austria "other areas". In it there is current info on Babylon and a recommendation to stick to German FKK which do it better for less.

[Dandriller]

I couldn't leave Germany as planned because of the volcano, so what is a boy to do but go back to Palace.

It was Saturday afternoon and another "Business Time" session was the plan, but I wasn't going to pay anyone who wasn't a 9 or 10.

I arrived around 1pm and my prospects were not looking good. The only possibility was Crystal who was playing the slot machines. I chatted to her briefly and excused myself so that I could dine. When I came out she said she had been looking for me everywhere. We went near the pool to talk on a couch. She was doing the full court press however, and I was in no hurry. She certainly is attractive, but not the glamour that I was looking for. She kept chatting and cuddling, trying to talk me into a session but I kept saying I wasn't ready.

Then I saw her. Alice walked by the bar and over to the the internet machine in the smoking lounge. Crystal must have known she had no chance once I had seen that Alice was in the building and tried to distract me so I couldn't see her but it was too late. Crystal gave up now and moved away.

I went for a walk to give Crystal time to leave the vicinity and then headed straight up to Alice sitting checking her emails. She asked me if I wanted to session with her and we went to a room. It seemed DATY was going to cost an extra 50 so she commenced a BBBJ with me kneeling on the bed. She looked so good and her technique was great with only mouth, occasionally quite deep. After a while she started using a hand but I told her "no hands".

She nearly mad me cum, although it helps when someone as hot as her is doing it. Kissing was off limits as was touching her sensitive nipples. I didn't care though as she rolled the rubber onto my cock. This was one girl that had to be fucked. It was just missionary, but the comments she made in Spanish and the sounds of pleasure made the experience absolutely perfect. We talked about something we had in common and I found her very friendly.

My mission was complete and I left after collecting my 25 euro refund.

[Diet Coke]

Get off at INDUSTRIEHOF / NEUE BÖRSE U bahn stop and then what? What direction? How far by foot? Thanks
Rick

[Shark16]

Get off at INDUSTRIEHOF / NEUE BÖRSE U bahn stop and then what? What direction? How far by foot? Thanks
Rick

In short: Cross the rails and head for the opening in the brick wall. There you find Königsbergerstrasse, and 200 meter (i.e. 600 feet) up the road you have it on your left.

Try the following link if you need further details: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462412&postcount=59 or put "directions" or some other key word in the fine search engine on top right of this page ("Search This Thread"). It must have been described a zillion times by now.

[Diet Coke]

In short: Cross the rails and head for the opening in the brick wall. There you find Königsbergerstrasse, and 200 meter (i.e. 600 feet) up the road you have it on your left.

Try the following link if you need further details: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462412&postcount=59 or put "directions" or some other key word in the fine search engine on top right of this page ("Search This Thread"). It must have been described a zillion times by now.
Thanks
Great link with pics

[Hessen Bub]

Alice walked by the bar and over to the the internet machine in the smoking lounge. Crystal must have known she had no chance once I had seen that Alice was in the building and tried to distract me so I couldn't see her but it was too late.

That's Alice from DomRep you're talking about? Or skinny Alice from ROnderland, former World-staff?

HB

[Dandriller]

Sorry Hessen Bub, yes it was Alice with heritage from the Dominican Republic. She is so hot looking but not pretentious or stuck up in any way. Very nice girl and even though she doesn't provide a complete menu, the things she does she does well and looks sensational doing it.

[Sebastiane]

Thanks Angus, for that link about Babylon. I read quite a bit in the other Austria forum. I think I will at some point check it out at least the once.

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Re: Saskia. Some people asked recently what she looked like. Well, I was just browsing the WWW and I came across this picture of Grace Kelly which looks quite similar to her (except Saskia is blonde):

http://www.amazon.com/True-Grace-American-Princess-Thomas/dp/0312381948/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271598059&sr=8-13

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Who is this Alice? Sounds hot!

[Atooz]

Re: Saskia. Some people asked recently what she looked like. Well, I was just browsing the WWW and I came across this picture of Grace Kelly which looks quite similar to her (except Saskia is blonde):

http://www.amazon.com/True-Grace-American-Princess-Thomas/dp/0312381948/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271598059&sr=8-13

Nice job Sybarite2006, Saskia does look like Grace Kelly, at least in this picture. (FWIW, Saskia once told me she is not really blonde.)
Saskia looks just as regal as princess Kelly of Monaco.

[Hessen Bub]

Who is this Alice? Sounds hot!

Look at the big picture/poster next to the kino entrance, that's Alice.



Very nice girl and even though she doesn't provide a complete menu, the things she does she does well and looks sensational doing it.

She does not offer anal, everything else is on her menu. ;) And there's mixed reports about her, she can be bitchy. I know her for 5 years by now and do get along well, I do like her. Best looking latina girl in German FKKs.

HB

[Dandriller]

She does not offer anal, everything else is on her menu. ;) And there's mixed reports about her, she can be bitchy. I know her for 5 years by now and do get along well, I do like her. Best looking latina girl in German FKKs.Well maybe I have to get to know her better before she will let me DFK and DATY as part of the standard €50 service.

She's not just the best looking latina girl in German FKK's, I would say it would be hard to find a better looking latina girl anywhere.

[Samplerr]

Stopped off about 9:30 p.m. at Palace during the last night of the recent Messe. Spotted ex Oase girls Alexandra (Romania), Samantha (Dutch/German) before heading into the dining room to grab what was left of the hot food.

My main reason for visiting was to try and get my paws on Mercedes/Chanel again. I called Palace's office earlier in the day to try and find out if she was working that night, but they refused to confirm one way or another. As it wasn't too much of a detour on my way out to my hotel in Friedrichsdorf I decided to head out there on spec.

Just as I was finishing off my meal I spotted Mercedes/Chanel walking out of the change rooms so I ventured over to start off a session. I've had a number of extremely good sessions previously with Mercedes whilst she was still at Oase, but unfortunately this was not the case this time round. Previously I'd had real porno style workouts with her, but I ended up bailing early on this session because it was so inferior to what I'd experienced previously. The wild sessions of past visits were replaced by a much more stilted effort on her part. With the benefit of hindsight I wish I'd sessioned with Alexandra, but based on previous activity I had no reason to expect a dud session.

I had a coffee and surveyed some of the passing talent, and there was certainly some impressive optics on parade that night. Tempted as I was, as it was near midnight I decided to check in to my hotel in Friedrichsdorf and hunt down some of my "to do list" in Oase. As it turned out the line up in Palace was quite superior to what I saw in Oase that night, although I didn't get to Oase till around 1.

[Cklein]

Is Linda from czech still working at Palace ? Thx in advance :)

[Vale64]

I know its not the right forum but I was wondering if anyone on here has been to the Babylon? I know its expensive but it seems something one should try once in a lifetime at least.

So any detailed feedback would be great especially about the quality of the girls.You may read reports on this thread, it's the right one:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=623

[Aolini]

Being lucky enough to remian stranded in Frankfurt during the flight restrictions, I tried the three most common FKKs, all for the first time.

So here are my reports from a beginner's point of view for Palace, Oase (See respective forum) and World (See respective Forum).

I will be concise as my objective is to give the pros and cons for each club so that you can choose wisely if a volcano ever erupts while you're in Frankfurt. Look out for my attempt to sketch the "stereotype" of girl working in each club.

Day 1: FKK Palace

Arrived on Friday afternoon.

Location: This is actually in Frankfurt's business district, and unlike the other two, it is actually IN the city.

Environment: Luxurious, stylish rooms. Good ambience. Restaurant not too bad. Lockers and showers are ok.

Cleanliness: The highest you can get in an FKK.

Girls: Vast selection, all kinds. European, Latin, Asian, everything.

Girls stereotype: Difficult to provide a stereotype for Palace, due to the different types of women there. I get the impression that some of them are not professional hookers, but part-timers looking to earn extra cash. I didn't get this impression in the other FKKs.

Men: Too many of them, making it quite busy after 7-8pm.

My sample: Polish Clara, Cuban Marina, Hungarian Alice, Romanian?

Overall impression: Great club, lots of women, great quality. Downside is the number of men there.

Go to FKK Oase Forum for next report.

[Diefrankfurter]

Being lucky enough to remian stranded in Frankfurt during the flight restrictions, I tried the three most common FKKs, all for the first time.

So here are my reports from a beginner's point of view for Palace, Oase (See respective forum) and World (See respective Forum).

I will be concise as my objective is to give the pros and cons for each club so that you can choose wisely if a volcano ever erupts while you're in Frankfurt. Look out for my attempt to sketch the "stereotype" of girl working in each club.

Day 1: FKK Palace

Arrived on Friday afternoon.

Location: This is actually in Frankfurt's business district, and unlike the other two, it is actually IN the city.

Environment: Luxurious, stylish rooms. Good ambience. Restaurant not too bad. Lockers and showers are ok.

Cleanliness: The highest you can get in an FKK.

Girls: Vast selection, all kinds. European, Latin, Asian, everything.

Girls stereotype: Difficult to provide a stereotype for Palace, due to the different types of women there. I get the impression that some of them are not professional hookers, but part-timers looking to earn extra cash. I didn't get this impression in the other FKKs.

Men: Too many of them, making it quite busy after 7-8pm.

My sample: Polish Clara, Cuban Marina, Hungarian Alice, Romanian?

Overall impression: Great club, lots of women, great quality. Downside is the number of men there.

Go to FKK Oase Forum for next report.So in short, how much do you end up paying for full service?

[Diefrankfurter]

You pay 75 EUR. If you leave the club within 2 hours, you get 25 EUR back.

HBWhat can you expect to pay for the girls?

[Vito Corleone]

What can you expect to pay for the girls?
30 euro for 30 minutes is the norm. You can try to negotiate between 20-25 euro. Good luck!

[Chicafan]

30 euro for 30 minutes is the norm. You can try to negotiate between 20-25 euro. Good luck!
You might be thinking of a different club. I remember Palace at 50E for 30 minutes and 50 for second thirty minutes. Do they still have a book in rooms with prices?

[Vitrea]

So in short, how much do you end up paying for full service?

There is no full service in an FKK. Only self service. :-)

[Vitrea]

You might be thinking of a different club. I remember Palace at 50E for 30 minutes and 50 for second thirty minutes. Do they still have a book in rooms with prices?

Dude, that was a joke. Pulling a first time poster's leg for not RTFF.

[Myrmidon]

You might be thinking of a different club. I remember Palace at 50E for 30 minutes and 50 for second thirty minutes. Do they still have a book in rooms with prices?
When I was there (Palace) last April they had cards on the back of the room doors with the "extras" and the prices.

Not bad response times for 3 questions in almost 6 years.

Should see the excellent comparison report by Marwar58
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[Hessen Bub]

Price for 30min suck & fuck, dfk and daty in almost all Hessen clubs is 50 EUR.

HB

[Friedberger]

Is Linda from czech still working at Palace ? Thx in advance :)No, she is now to be found in Oase working as Adriana.

[Hessen Bub]

No, she is now to be found in Oase working as Adriana.

Indeed. But from time to time she does make the way up to Pohlheim, to FKK-World.

HB

[Aklein]

Indeed. But from time to time she does make the way up to Pohlheim, to FKK-World.

HBShe also made it to artemis about two years ago she remembered me from frankfurt even though I only saw her once at palace. Not that bad consider all the guys she has been with.

A bit off topic question. When does the outdoor facilities usually open at Oase? Do they have barbeques everyday or just weekends?

I prefer palace in the winter, but in the summer its hard to not enjoy Oase.

[Basketcase]

A bit off topic question. When does the outdoor facilities usually open at Oase? Do they have barbeques everyday or just weekends?

I prefer palace in the winter, but in the summer its hard to not enjoy Oase.
Outdoor area at Oase is open for the drinks hut and the BBQ dinners. The good summer times in the garden are back.

[Hessen Bub]

A bit off topic question. When does the outdoor facilities usually open at Oase? Do they have barbeques everyday or just weekends?


To answer your question: They open it from around end of April if the weather is good enough, it was open on the weekend. If they do BBQ, they do it every day.

HB

[Diet Coke]

Previous directions were good. Easy to find. Arrived around 14:00. First session with Kelly from Senegal, said 27 yrs. Good session spent entire 30 minutes. Cuddled etc. Second was with long haired curly blonde Nicollete from Bulgaria. Good session, good kissing, BBBJ then mission, too soon so off with condom and another BBBJ then a bit of doggie and then more BBBJ. Allowed FIV. Last session was a bust. Flora from Bulgaria. Tall, dark hair with blonde streaks and shell necklace. Only would kiss in room, I should have been warned. In room wanted to upsell time for massage and licking and 2 times. Stuck with 30 minutes. BBBJ and time a mission. Kissing during but not with enthusiasm. Sucked nipple but told she did not like. Finished in mission less then 15 minutes and she would not do anything else. Massage? No, that was in upgrade. Avoid. Waiting for 19:30 dinner and then left. It is a treat to see so many naked ladies.

[Diefrankfurter]

You might be thinking of a different club. I remember Palace at 50E for 30 minutes and 50 for second thirty minutes. Do they still have a book in rooms with prices?That was my sense as well. Paid 50E for Marina (who said she was from Greece but reading below said she was from Cuba) and Marinka from Roumania.

[Sebastiane]

I'Ve had many memorable sessions with Saskia but today's early evening session was the best ever! I spotted her in her usual spot as I entered and went to shower and change into the robes. She spotted me and smiled and waved!.I smiled back. I took some time in the showers though and when I came out she wasnt there. I was feeling relaxed today and so just decided to go into the main area of Palace. I spotted her immediately sitting at a table looking lovely. Any performance anxieties I may have had vanished as I approached her and kissed her on the lips and she began to flirt with me. The gentle touch of her fingers on my skin, as she fiddled with my robe collar, made me hard! After a few words I went straight to a room with her! I didn't notice the other girls at all except that there seemed a lot of new ones and most of them were lying or sitting around waiting for guys. There weren't many at this time. Around 6 pm.

(Camilla-of-the-mole was in the queue behind me as I entered Palace at reception and seeing her in her street gear gave me a different impression. In fact if I hadn't spotted Saskia so soon I had made a mental note to go with Camilla again. But I digress!)

In the room with Saskia was sheer joy. I am always blown away by her ravishing beauty when I see her. Each time it hits me anew. Today I almost felt guilty when I saw my overweight form in the mirror next to her! Well today after some DFK to start off with she lay back and I licked her pussy for a while before kissing her all the way up her torso. Then we switched to 69 including some analingus! Not in a rush we then just lay together and small talked with intermittent DFK and stroking/cock sucking by her. She then took me deep into her mouth and blew me with real passion whilst looking at me with those mesmerising green eyes. I told her to keep that gaze as she was driving me crazy! I thought I was going to come but instead she stopped sucking and we fooled around some more. Then she slipped on a condom and rode me. For some reason I got soft. So she took off the condom and lay next to me and we had some amazing kissing with DFK for ages until I was rock solid. It was very GFE! Then she rode me again and this time fucked for ages, with different variations mostly her on top. She was moaning and breathing heavily. Then I went on top with her legs resting on my shoulders and I fucked her deep and slow and then fast and then slow. I started to feel myself getting stomach cramps after this went on for a while! But her gazing into my face whilst I pounded her with her hands on my butt stroking is one of the more memorable moments of my life! Again the guilt returned, the thought that this girl is way out of my league and only in this environment am I fucking her. That thought, though fleeting, did mean that I wasn't able to come via fucking even though we then switched to doggy. So we stopped for another cuddling and canoodling, DFK session and when I became a bit too passionate she did say I should give her some time to recover and that she wasn't my wife! I think that comment must have surprised me because she suddenly asked me to relax and said what's wrong? I said nothing but when she insisted I said I didn't expect you to say that. She then lay next to me, her body curled around mine and told me that this job can be hard sometimes emotionally and so she doesn't like it if guys let their passion get out of control and become too demanding. Then she offered to give me a massage. This was a first for me in Palace (I had asked for massages before myself but not the other way round.) It was a v good massage and then I returned the favour. After that we fucked more and she then proceeded to give me the best BBBJ ever as her fingers played their magic on my balls, thighs and ass. I finished standing up and shot loads of cum into her pretty mouth and some went down her throat (as she told me!) We then lay together and chatted some more, v. Intimate stuff, laughter, GFE as she lit up a fag. I was exhausted (and my body is still aching as I type this! Hours later!) A short while later over 1. 5 hours had elapsed and reluctantly I left the room with some passionate DFK. I paid her 200 euros. That was the most amazing overall session with her I've had. 10 all around! It was also one tinged with sadness for some inexplicable reason.

A short while later I decided to try the menu before leaving. The food was quite good and the dining area half empty. As I was eating I was delighted to notice her bringing her tray and sitting next to me. We chatted some more and she finished before me and said bye. I showered again and spoke to her again in the usual spot where she sits, a queen in her environment, ere I left.

From our bedroom conversations I don't think she will be in this profession for too much longer. Well, I'll never forget our sessions together (long may they continue yet!). What. A. Woman. Perfection.

[Ortos]

I'Ve had many memorable sessions with Saskia... I spotted her in her usual spot as I entered and went to shower and change into the robes...

... I showered again and spoke to her again in the usual spot where she sits, a queen in her environment, ere I left.




First: A really great report! Thanks.

Second: Let me get this straight, because I am a bit confused: You really like this girl, right? (Okay, just joking...)

Third: You mention a couple of times that she sits in her "usual spot." Where exactly is this area of Palace? Just curious.

Thanks,

O

[Hessen Bub]

Palace now has lanyard with key and chip for the cashless payment system (girls still to be paid cash).

2 new coffee machines (both bars) with Lavazza freshly ground and brewed coffee.

Sauna was seperated into 2 saunas, one with 90°C and a bio sauna with 70°C and higher humidity.

Professional sauna masters will do "Aufguss" every full hour daily from 10am to 5pm.

HB

[Sebastiane]

Ottos,

Yes I guess you could say that!

Where does she sit? As you enter opposite the safety deposit boxes are three slot machines where you can gamble! She is always there playing with these slot machines or perched on a stool just sitting there. I think my descriptions of what she looks like are detailed in my earlier posts! Saskia is the name.

Hope that helps.

[Redman69]

One hell of a story.

I agree with the other guy. You do like this girl. RIGHT!!

Thanks for sharing your feelings. And the I ain't your wife. I felt how you felt.

Why is it that we can't have this with our wifes. I know I will never know. Some say they do. But, at 55 I am divorced and have excepted that it is what I bring to the relationship that prevents it.

I have been where you took me this time. I hope you find it the rest of your life.

[Sebastiane]

Redman,

Yes it was some session! I do like her but at the same time I´m not naive enough to imagine that it is anything other than a fantasy which is only valid within the confines of an FKK. Of course, if I could have her outside Palace, in the "real world" she would be my dream girl. Still, one should be grateful for what one can get. Life has taught me some hard lessons particularly when it comes to this thing called, "love". I think in these environments one is actually safest from being hurt if only just the girls are ultimately only interested in your money and the rest is just fantasy...

Thanks for the nice words!

[Hessen Bub]

#of course, if I could have her outside Palace, in the "real world" she would be my dream girl.

If you want to have her outside Palace - ask her for her rate for a hotel date. Not the real thing, but coming close. And I have seen her do "outcalls".

HB

[Sebastiane]

If you want to have her outside Palace - ask her for her rate for a hotel date. Not the real thing, but coming close. And I have seen her do "outcalls".

HBGood idea. It crossed my mind but I didn´t pursue it. Any idea what the going rate is for outcalls? I´d guess 200 euros per hour minimum. (Based on what I have paid that before in the past, but this was not an escort from an FKK)

[Hessen Bub]

Any idea what the going rate is for outcalls? I´d guess 200 euros per hour minimum. (Based on what I have paid that before in the past, but this was not an escort from an FKK)

As 100 EUR/h is the standard rate inside the club an outside date (e.g. at Fleming's Hotel just opposite Palace) should give you some price advantage - let's say 400 for 5 hours? I have no idea, never paid a club-girl to spend time with me outside the club or to stay with me at a hotel.

HB

[Syzygies]

The first week with the electro-swipe drinks tag lanyard, it was separate to your locker key, but now the locker key is on the lanyard with the drinks tag. This probably helps the guests not to lose their drinks tag!

Vanessa is back with a nose job and curly hair (perm?) that makes her look less fierce. She is now looking really fab, well, except for the exaggerated bolt-on coconuts.

This saturday early evening there were an incredible number of excessively good looking girls in my opinion, and not that many guys yet. The standard of looks of the girls has been improving a lot this year with many new pretty girls. e.g. the slim platinum blonde Alexis(Oxsana?) looks fantastic to me. There are still ugly girls of course, but I just ignore the ugly ones completely.

Was nice to catch up with BC and EL last week.

Sorry no girl reports, as I tend to just keep to my regulars that I have already been reported on before.

[Myrmidon]

The first week with the electro-swipe drinks tag lanyard, it was separate to your locker key, but now the locker key is on the lanyard with the drinks tag. This probably helps the guests not to lose their drinks tag!

This system was not there when I last visited. I will return next week and expect to see the new "restaurant", slot machines (& Saskia!), and this "drink-tag". Can anyone explain the tag? With coffee machines at the bars, are there no more bar maids? I could only locate a couple of references to this on the board, no details. Their web site mentions business men rates 10 AM - 4 PM but not much else. Thanks,

Myr.

[Hessen Bub]

It's just a cashless payment system: Alcoholic drinks (plus alcohol-free beer and Red Bull) will be charged on the chip and you pay as you leave the club. If you reach the 300 EUR limit you will have to pay before you can buy more.

The coffee machines are still operated by the girls behind the bars, coffee is still free.

Business time: If you enter the club before 4pm, you can have the entry time written on your wrist band. You still pay 75 EUR. If you leave the club within 2 hours, you will get 25 EUR back.

Any questions left?

HB

[Myrmidon]

Nope... that about does it. Just need to get there now. Airlines are only showing warnings and delays from Canada, no cancellations yet. Hope to put this new knowledge to work sooooon. Thanks, didn't want to come off as a Timmy Tourist.

It's just a cashless payment system: Alcoholic drinks (plus alcohol-free beer and Red Bull) will be charged on the chip and you pay as you leave the club. If you reach the 300 EUR limit you will have to pay before you can buy more.

The coffee machines are still operated by the girls behind the bars, coffee is still free.

Business time: If you enter the club before 4pm, you can have the entry time written on your wrist band. You still pay 75 EUR. If you leave the club within 2 hours, you will get 25 EUR back.

Any questions left?

HB

[Gonzo]

I've said it many times in different forums - "now my experiences have exceeded my dreams" and once again, my first trip to an FKK, Palace, was definitely something that raises the bar.

I'm writing this from fresh eyes, being a first timer. The setup is superb, down to the smallest detail, various rooms (even a room for smokers, yuck). The included buffet was surprisingly good. But lets' talk about the ladies...

This was Monday evening and as the night went on, the joint got filled with more women, but there are a lot of men too. After paying 75E, getting my key, collar robe and slippers I began wandering around. What came to me immediately was the movie "Eyes Wide Shut" - do you remember when Tom Cruise goes walking around the mansion? It was sorta like that, but with less explicit s*x happening, and the guys weren't wearing masks, but towels or robes. And, OK, maybe I have low standards, but there were some drop dead gorgeous women walking around (all naked except for stockings tonite) that could have made the Eyes Wide Shut circle of champions.

I first was taken by a cute Thai named D.D., and we talked a bit, and no doubt the ladies are trying to get you in the room. They're not aggressive, except for the eye contact, and some women do approach you. Apparently all the women are 21+, and the demographics are already explained in previous posts. It becomes quite normal after a while, to have naked women strutting around, looking hungry, shaking their booty at times, making eyes, giving you opening lines, acting cute and interested - but that is one helluva a great normal, no?

50-50 I think between blondes and darkhaired women, and one woman caught my eye, Dinarah from Turkey, who was written about previously here (according to her). She says she is in some top 10 list, and after a short talk, we went to a room and she did not disappoint - she is not fresh off the boat of course, having worked there 5 years, but she'll deliver what you want. Basically she asked what my limits are and we'll approach them, which was great. She says she has a lot of USA phone numbers and says Americans are much happier than the moody Europeans (too funny!).

After an hour with Dinarah, I spent some time in the pool, just walking around checking out the streams of 6.5s-9s walking around. There were two memorable blondes that came by and said hello, one that almost made my knees buckle, and that was after having s*x. This is a high quality place - another blonde, with a face like an angel, native Italian or Spanish, which stays fresh in mind. Not a flabby butt in the place, and if some of these ladies aren't model material, then I'm model material. I realized that I didn't bring enough cash, and had to tell a number of women "Ich bin kaput" (they really say 'kaput' and 'ach so' just like in the war movies) and "soy agotado". They can exchange US dollars at .65, which is painful, but...

So another mind blowing experience brought to me by the good people of ISG. Thanks. What to do next? Well, my plane leaves late tomorrow and I'm heading back in the morning, time to hit the sack.

[Hessen Bub]

"Ich bin kaput" (they really say 'kaput' and 'ach so' just like in the war movies)

Strange, he? But that's what krauts speak - German. Did you get any Bratwurst, Sauerkraut, Lederhosen and a "Maß Bier"?

Did you have Dinara or Dilara (Turkey)?

HB

[Blonde]

Hi,

Could anyone tell me name on some other clubs in Frankfurt area. I will stay in Frankfurt for three days and I would like to try 3 different clubs. I will stay in sentrum of the city and will use taxi for transportation. This will limit the distance I can reach so pleace have this in mind when suggest clubs.

Thanks

[Vitrea]

Hi,

Could anyone tell me name on some other clubs in Frankfurt area. I will stay in Frankfurt for three days and I would like to try 3 different clubs. I will stay in sentrum of the city and will use taxi for transportation. This will limit the distance I can reach so pleace have this in mind when suggest clubs.

Thanks

Are you joking or are you really that lazy to read a few pages of the forum?

Anyway, knock yourself out

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&z=5

[Vito Corleone]

Hi,

Could anyone tell me name on some other clubs in Frankfurt area. I will stay in Frankfurt for three days and I would like to try 3 different clubs. I will stay in sentrum of the city and will use taxi for transportation. This will limit the distance I can reach so pleace have this in mind when suggest clubs.

Thanks
Great question! I also need help with the clubs in the Frankfurt area. Directions by train would be greatly appreciated.

[Redman69]

syb 2006, Good luck with it.

I will say it sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and have been there and done that.

But I really did enjoy your tale.

I still can not get the I am not your wife out of my head. That could mean so many things. I have thought maybe she was playing head games. Or just being serious. Hell who knows.

[Gentleman Travel]

... Then she rode me again and this time fucked for ages, with different variations mostly her on top. She was moaning and breathing heavily.... But her gazing into my face whilst I pounded her with her hands on my butt stroking is one of the more memorable moments of my life! Again the guilt returned, the thought that this girl is way out of my league and only in this environment am I fucking her... she did say I should give her some time to recover and that she wasn't my wife!
No kidding!
You are fucking her "for ages" in various positions, along with a great blow job - a girl "way out of your league" in terms of sexiness and beauty.
Yep, it's pretty clear that she ain't your wife!
Otherwise she would be lying back counting the minutes until she could go to sleep!
Does this girl think your wife would give you MORE passion than she is giving?

[Sebastiane]

syb 2006, Good luck with it.

I will say it sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and have been there and done that.

But I really did enjoy your tale.

I still can not get the I am not your wife out of my head. That could mean so many things. I have thought maybe she was playing head games. Or just being serious. Hell who knows.Yeh, I thought about it for a little while afterwards but have now forgotten it as a throwaway comment made in the heat of the moment. The most likely meaning is that she didn't want me to get the wrong idea and forget it was all only for money. Or, it could mean she didn't like my hugging her so close all the time whilst fucking. She was on top, I was lying beneath her and I was holding her quite tightly whilst at the same time we french kissed. I think she felt that was too intimate for even GFE and hence the "I'm not your wife" comment.

Who knows what women really think! That's why we love ém! The mystery!

[Strato]

Public transport details are abundant in this and other forums.

Suggest doing "search" in each forum, using either Public transportation, Train, etc. As search words.

It's all there. Including a video (!) on how to get to some of the clubs.

Seek and yee shall find.

Have fun

Strato


Great question! I also need help with the clubs in the Frankfurt area. Directions by train would be greatly appreciated.

[Italia77]

Public transport details are abundant in this and other forums.

Suggest doing "search" in each forum, using either Public transportation, Train, etc. As search words.

It's all there. Including a video (!) on how to get to some of the clubs.

Seek and yee shall find.

Have fun

StratoIf u mean the big three in Frankfurt, one year ago I remember to have done a research to move without a car...let me think about it....if they didn't changed..

- Palace---> take the Hotel to HBF hotel excelsior it's perfect location---> in front of HBF--->take metro U2 to Bokenheim Warte and switch to U6/U7 till Industriehof Neue Borse, easy to recognize when the metro goes on the surface stand up from your sit, it's time to go out---> after your stop, across the street, walk alongside the wall and when you find a interruption on the wall enter there, in a small industrial district, walk 100mt and then after the rotatory u will find the 7stars Club on the left, turn around the building and ring to the iron gate....that's it!

- Oase--->same HBF station---> take the suburban metro, so S and the number, maybe S5 to Friedriscdorf Bad Homburg, it will be last stop, then look for a taxi and it needs 10 minutes and maybe 8euros, if I have remind well....ask directly for OASE to the taxi driver, they know very well the place;

- World---> this is the thoughest to reach without a car, in fact I used a car LOL but---> u can also take a train from Frankfurt HBF direct to Giessen, and there look for a bus, suburban bus for Pohlheim-Garbenteich and get out at Garbenteich Sportplatz---> there u have to look for a hill, because the club is on top of that one, and maybe 15-20min walking from bus stop to the club...

Sorry guys, I'm one year far from the German freedom-land of sex and my reminds are becoming obsolete...but I'm glad to can help, by the way if you don't have a car, look always for the site bahn.de , it's a multilanguage site so u don't have to speak German.

Hope it helps

Big Hug from Italy and looking forward for my 25-27June trip, after one year..

[Sebastiane]

i just returned from a short trip to amsterdam to sample its fabled sex industry and especially the rld. i actually liked the whole atmosphere of the rld area around the main station and there were a lot of pretty girls especially on dolle and the really narrow streets off sint annenstraat or something. i did a lot of window shopping and then settled on a girl on dolle, dark haired, tall and lithe, who gave her name as maria, said she was dutch but with a greek mum, and i asked her her price. she said it was 50 euros. i then asked her if i could kiss her (no), could i lick her pussy and ass (yes but 50 extra), would she get nude (of course). she was quite friendly and i'd say in her early to mid twenties. i therefore agreed to pay her 100 euros. the session was good whilst it lasted: a good covered bj (that was a new (old) experience for me being so used to bbbj in the fkks!), then 69 and then fucking with her on top. i didn't want to change positions. her pussy was very hot and moist and i was really getting into it when suddenly, after like 15 mins, she stopped and said time was nearly up.. she tried to finish me then with her hand as i told her i took a while to come. she sat next to me as i played with her ass while she jerked me. i still hadn't come when she said that was it. i was horny as hell and i would have paid her more if i'd had more cash on me at the time. she was friendly and apologetic at the same time. it wasn't a bad session but for a 100 euros?! i could have had a mindblowing session with one of my faves in the fkk for an hour! this was 15 minutes ffs! whilst dressing i asked how much it would cost if i wanted to do everything and for an hour and she said if you give me 200 you can (except [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) which were extra!). i asked if she'd come to my hotel room later for 200 but she said she doesn't do hotel calls. it was a pleasant experience and the girl was gorgeous but it wasnt worth it do the limits. basically i got a little more than suck and fuck for 20 mins for 100!

whilst i compared it to the rld of frankfurt and the fkks i decided that paying twice or more as much for half the service wasn't worth it.

so, i went to my iphone and googled about escorts in amsterdam and came across a v good website which listed and rated them. i also called one from the adverts in my tourist guide called danish students. the woman spoke perfect english on the phone and assured me all her girls were real dutch girls and provided excellent services. cost? 300 euros per hour! fuck me! i said i'd think about and hung up with a raging hard-on in my pants. (i had just fucked a pretty girl but not come remember?!)

i then finally went back to my hotel and went through more escort agencies using the same website's recommendations and the agencies'own websites. for once i hated the iphone for not supporting flash! anyway i rang one up called pleasure escort (www.pleasure-escort.com) and the girls looked hot. it was also highly rated by the said website. i also liked that they charged only 160 euros per hour. so i rang them up and asked them to send a girl i'd picked. the guy said he'd try to contact her and call me back. 15 mins later he said she wasn't available today. i asked for another girl i liked the photos of. he said she was working with another client. damn! so he said why don't you try this called monique. i saw her pics and liked what i saw. 20 mins later she arrived. as i saw her i noticed she seemed not so hot as the pics but still okay. the agency guy also told me, and so does their website, that i can pay with credit cards. the girl sat down and asked me for the money first. i said okay let me get my card. she seemed surprised. then she told me that she needed to ring the manager of the agency. so she did. i caught the words, "i don't trust him! " (i'm not a white guy!) the manager sounded apologetic and told me it was a misunderstanding and the girl's driver would bring the machine for taking credit card payments after the session. i said okay. i also told him i would pay the girl partially with the cash i had on me and the rest on card to ease her mind. they spoke on the phone and she said okay.

so, i asked her to kiss me. she said i don't kiss. i said your agency profile says sometimes you do. i didn't push it though. i then said okay no problem can i kiss your body and pussy though? she said no. you can fuck me only and i will suck you. i couldn't believe it! i said i am paying you 160 euros per hour for just suck and fuck which i can get in the rld for 50? she said you can call my manager. so i did. and cancelled the booking. he said i had to give her 50 euros for taxi costs and expenses. i said okay, just wanting to be rid of her. she left. let that be a warning! i cannot prove this but i think her attitude (she was italian) was so bad because i am coloured.

still horny and a bit pissed i then rang another agency called angels of amsterdam who did have amazing looking girls on their website and glowing reviews all round but it was always engaged. it was 2. 30 am by now! i decided to call dutch students again. the woman agreed to send a girl over and i told her it better not be a scam, explaining my previous experience. she said if you don't like the girl send her back for 20 euros for the cab. i said okay. so i described the kind of girl i liked and picked one called amber from her list. dutch, 18, about 5 feet nine, curvy, blonde, very pale, pretty. very very sweet too. i really liked her and we had really good sex, unhurried, lots of kissing, body contact, many positions. the only downside was whilst fucking she would take breaks and resort to blowing me. (alas it was all covered too! is this standard in amsterdam?) i was really enjoying her company and before you knew it one hour was up. she was bent over me, bouncing on my cock, when she asked if i wanted another hour? i was really tempted and first said yes but the rate made me think twice. she said she would have to call the agency and let them know i booked another hour. she said if you want we can finish in the 15 mins it will take for the can to come and pick me up. i still hadn't come yet! i said okay. so she asked me to jerk off as she said she really liked that and i said okay will you [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on me as i do so? so we went to the bathroom and she peed on me as i jerked off and i finally came a ridiculous amount. we then showered together and kissed and cuddled. (we had also showered together in the beginning too with me rimming her in the shower!) i gave her 50 as a tip for the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) (not included in standard price) and had a very good time and can recommend both this girl and her agency. overall though, for 350 euros for about 1 hr 15 minutes of good sex and a covered bj i don't think it is worth it, certainly not when i think for 350 i could have 3 hours of sex with saskia in palace!

so i am left with mixed feelings about the scene in amsterdam although the people are friendly and some girls v pretty. in terms of rating i'd rate maria of the rld 8 for looks, 9 for body, 8 for performance, 9 for personality. repeat? yes. the expensive escort amber gets 10 for personality, 9 for performance (only negative was covered bbbj), 9 for looks and 8 for body. i would remove 1 mark overall though when looking at value for money. repeat? don't know. lovely girl but for what you get is it worth it?

i've just realised how great value for money german fkks are. germany beats amsterdam for pay for play imho! i spent 500 euros in total for just over 1. 5 hours of sex with covered bjs. for that money i could have had 10 sessions in palace or even gone to babylon in austria!

[Travelerb69]

I've just realised how great value for money German FKKs are. Germany beats Amsterdam for pay for play IMHO! I spent 500 euros in total for just over 1. 5 hours of sex with covered BJs. For that money I could have had 10 sessions in Palace or even gone to Babylon in Austria!

Dude, thanks for your report. However, I have to say that I was really surprised that only now you have got to this conclusion. Of course German clubs-FKKS, Sauna Clubs or Partytreffs are waay better than Amsterdam RLD or scorts. Even Frankfurt RLD is better than the window girls. Amsterdam is for tourists, people who go there for bussiness or guys who have no info at all. And yes, CBJ is a pattern in Amsterdam. Again, not flaming on you, it is just that I was really surprised.

BTW: If you were satisfied at Palace you may have a blast at what you get at Oase and World near Frankfurt or Golden Time in Brueggen,near the border with Holand, read the threads here and give them a try.

[Sebastiane]

Dude, thanks for your report. However, I have to say that I was really surprised that only now you have got to this conclusion. Of course German clubs-FKKS, Sauna Clubs or Partytreffs are waay better than Amsterdam RLD or scorts. Even Frankfurt RLD is better than the window girls. Amsterdam is for tourists, people who go there for bussiness or guys who have no info at all. And yes, CBJ is a pattern in Amsterdam. Again, not flaming on you, it is just that I was really surprised.

BTW: If you were satisfied at Palace you may have a blast at what you get at Oase and World near Frankfurt or Golden Time in Brueggen,near the border with Holand, read the threads here and give them a try.Hi tourist69,

I agree with all you say about Amsterdam v Germany for sex tourism but remember I'm fairly new to this game compared to others on this forum! Now I've tried Amsterdam I know it's all hype. We learn from our experiences. I plan on trying oase and world soon it's just palace is on my doorstep!

[Capt Dan]

Try World, particularly on a Saturday. Oase is good all weekend.
Saying that, both clubs are worth a visit anytime! :D
CD


Hi tourist69,

I agree with all you say about Amsterdam v Germany for sex tourism but remember I'm fairly new to this game compared to others on this forum! Now I've tried Amsterdam I know it's all hype. We learn from our experiences. I plan on trying oase and world soon it's just palace is on my doorstep!

[Dominos Dick]

Guys,

I will be visiting fkk palace for the first time (any fkk club for that matter) on 27th May evening any member here planning the same itinerary please pm me. Its always good to have a pal when having fun isn't it. I am 36 years old.

DD

[Vale64]

Hey,

I will be visiting Palace at 28 or 29th. Its my first time also to FKK club & I am very interested. Where you will stay in Frankfurt? & for how long?

I suggest you Ibis Hotel (http://www.ibishotel.com/it/hotel-1589-ibis-frankfurt-city-west/index.shtml). It's about 200 meters far away from the Palace, and close to Industriehof (U6) metro station. Cheap hotel and clean rooms, not very big but good enaugh for one night.

The address is: Breitenbachstrasse 7 Hessen - 60487 - FRANKFURT - GERMANY - Tel : (+49)69/247070 Fax : (+49)69/24707132

[Gonzo]

Did you have Dinara or Dilara (Turkey)? I believe she said Dinara and was from Turkey (maybe I was wrong). She is thin, with an amazing bod, has about a 21 inch waist.

The next day I went in around noon and it was a magnitude quieter than the night before (that week there was a business fair going on somewhere in Frankfurt, so both sexes were coming to Palace in droves).

Now, if you only have a short time during the day, Palace offers a 2 hour special - you pay the 75E up front, and if you leave within 2 hours, they give you 25E back. And I only had 2 hours before my flight.

After showering, I leave the locker/bar area into the main room and about a half dozen women turn to look at me - I'm the only guy in the place! After a walk around the joint, I begin a conversation with an Espanola named Sandra. It was great to be able to converse with someone (I'm good enuf in Spanish, as opposed to my fairly weak German). But after talking with Sandra, I realize that I have had my share of Latinas (Espanolas are not exactly Latinas, but from the same stock...), and since I'm in Germany, I decided I was going to do the tallest blonde madchen I could find. I tell Sandra sorry, but I'm in the hunt for a rubia, and approach a tall blonde sitting across the way.

This fraulein was sitting in the same chair the night before, chomping on a toothpick, on the right hand side as you walk in the main area. It must be her spot, and considering her height, I don't think the other girls would want to fight her for it. We strike up a pretty awful conversation with my broken German from high school 35 year ago, but we work it out and head to a room. Later on I realize that schwanz-lutschen means sucking one's dick. She's a laid back, but tough broad, and when she stood up, with her 4 inch heels, she was taller than me. I could see her on the back, or the front, of a Harley.

In the room she offers arsch-f*cken, anal, so I say, sure, why not, and she explains to me that it costs extra. In Palace, on the back of every door, you will find a pictoral description of the costs of certain extras, like cumming on a woman's body, anal, fingering and other wonderful perversions. These are the house rules, so don't be surprised.

In retrospect, had I known anal was an extra 100, I probably would have declined, but in any case it was great, a real blond fantasy. And for some reason there was some chemistry here at the bodily level, she felt fantastic in normal vaginal s*x. Maybe the legs that went all the way up, way up, turned me on, but it was a surprisingly highly pleasurable experience. You never know....Afterward, she seemed a lot softer and happier, and wished me well. I forgot her name, 3 syllables, and she wouldn't tell me it again after I forgot it twice. Funny rule, that.

Had a quick sauna and a great lunch with some drop-dead gorgeous Eastern European women coming on for the afternoon (so many beautiful women, so little time, crap!). After lunch one of them gave me a long, long stare, sitting at the bar, but alas, I was drained and had to go. Got my 25E back as promised and left happy.

So my night-day doubleheader was over at Palace, and it's truly an unforgettable memory. Don't know when or if I will ever get back to Germany, but I made the most out of the little time I had in Frankfurt, and except the fact it is a bit pricey (relative to other places I've been) I have nothing but good things to say about it. The Germans really know how to put on an ausgezeichnet party. Later.

[Dominos Dick]

Hi Halnase,

I will be staying at The Pure Hotel at Nidastrasse. I am arring 27th afternoon at Frankfurt and my plan as follows.

Palace. 27th evening.

Living Room in Kaarst. 28th evening with another forum member.

29th. Fkk oase during the day and catch my flight back on 29th night.

Also going to coccon club on 28th (theres no fuck here)

[Richie 22]

I have managed to arrange a trip to Frankfurt and am planning to visit the Palace on a Sunday evening.

Is this a quiet time?

[Syzygies]

I've said it many times in different forums - "now my experiences have exceeded my dreams" and once again, my first trip to an FKK, Palace, was definitely something that raises the bar.
(cut).
I first was taken by a cute Thai named D.D., and we talked a bit, and no doubt the ladies are trying to get you in the room. They're not aggressive, except for the eye contact, and some women do approach you. Apparently all the women are 21+, and the demographics are already explained in previous posts. It becomes quite normal after a while, to have naked women strutting around, looking hungry, shaking their booty at times, making eyes, giving you opening lines, acting cute and interested - but that is one helluva a great normal, no?
(cut).
Alas DeeDee has been gone from Palace a few months now.

[Travelerb69]

Also going to coccon club on 28th (theres no fuck here)

I assume you are aware that former Cocoon is now a party-treff- and just referred to its old name. If not, have a look:

http://www.nolimit-girlies.de/

[Myrmidon]

At Palace last night when the latest raid took place. Being from out of country, I am still shaking. I realize that I was doing nothing illegal and that these raids are necessary to keep the industry on-side and safe. It's just that this does not sit well with someone from N.A. Perhaps it is just my own "guilty conscience" that is plaguing me after a lifetime of brainwashing. But it is working!

Will try and carry on my tour, but this has put a real bender in it.

World today, Oase tomorrow and maybe return to Palace Monday with my "Free" Entry pass.

Will file more details if / when my heart starts to beat again.

(This is just Great for Tourism. Staff at Palace was very friendly and concerned about their (foreign) clients. This will cost them in lost income that night and in the free passes that they issued).

Myr.
(Shaken & Stirred)

[Angus Magee]

Myr.
(Shaken & Stirred)

Nothing quite like a good stirring shake to get rid of the cobwebs Myr;)

First the volcano cancels your trip then this little bump. Good thing you are a hardy Canadian who gets right back on the horse.

And it could be worse. Have a look at Unter's posting from last night in the Berlin thread. The mind boggles.

AM

[Capt Dan]

Myr.
(Shaken & Stirred)Myr you have overcome so many difficulties to get to FKK-Land, I would be surprised if you let a small matter like a police raid put you off!
Now that you are there, enjoy your trip!
Cos before long you will be at home writing the reports!
CD

[Hessen Bub]

"Raid" as well as "razzia" is a little too strong for checking the women's papers. I know it does look a little intimitating when a group of uniformed people enter a FKK club facing naked girls and men in towels. ;)

HB

[Akibono]

"Raid" as well as "razzia" is a little too strong for checking the women's papers. I know it does look a little intimitating when a group of uniformed people enter a FKK club facing naked girls and men in towels. ;)

HB


I say if the police are to enter a FKK they should be dressed appropriately. LOL!

[Myrmidon]

You are correct, some police brought their uniforms, others not. But it is over and I had a great day at World, (3 more top notch sessions (that makes 15 this week!!!) report on appropriate forums to follow.) Now I need some sleep... onto Oase again tomorrow and back to Palace with my free pass on Monday. Thanks everyone for your words of encouragement.
Last night the shoe was on the other foot: there were many foreigners there who did not know what to expect. Although this was my first, I was able to calm some based on what I have read here. Way to go board!!!
It was a little rattling to have my full name and DOB logged into their ledger.
But I am back and firing on all cylnders. More to come...

Myr.

[Skippy44]

Your are correct, some police brought their uniforms, others not. But it is over and I had a great day at World, (3 more top notce sessions (that makes 15 this week!) report on appropriate forums to follow.) Now I need some sleep. Onto Oase again tomorrow and back to Palace with my free pass on Monday. Thanks everyone for your words of encouragement.

Last night the shoe was on the other foot: there were many foreigners there who did not know what to expect. Although this was my first, I was able to calm some based on what I have read here. Way to go board!

It was a little rattling to have my full name and DOB logged into their ledger.

But I am back and firing on all cylnders. More to come.

Myr.Just boarding my ten hour flight to Frankfurt and can't wait!

Ya, kinda scary giving them your personal details. What happens if you opt to not give it to them?

Also, is there any way to get Viagra/Cialis the club or near it (without a prescription obviously)?

[Myrmidon]

Just boarding my ten hour flight to Frankfurt and can't wait!

Ya, kinda scary giving them your personal details. What happens if you opt to not give it to them?

Also, is there any way to get Viagra/Cialis the club or near it (without a prescription obviously)?
Good luck on your flight.

Don't think that there was an option available for details or not. They want to see ID, passports, driver's license etc., gov't issued photo id, (like buying smokes in Canada).

My only enhancement this trip has been vitamins (for over 50 - with zinc) and cold medication with ginseng. Seems to be doing the trick. Though I also paractise sperm retention, ie of 3 sessions yesterday, only 2 resulted in sperm expenditure.

And HB is right, raid may be a little strong a term, but when they stop you doing what you enjoy and you have a North American mentality, then it sure looks / feels like what I think a raid would.

[Hessen Bub]

Ya, kinda scary giving them your personal details. What happens if you opt to not give it to them?

Also, is there any way to get Viagra/Cialis the club or near it (without a prescription obviously)?

In Germany Viagra/Cialis is not available without a prescription.

And there's not the option to not prove your identity to the authorities. If your passport is at the hotel - they will take you there.

HB

[Linga]

I stayed in Fleming's Hotel Frankfurt-Neue Borse once. Nice hotel, can't beat the location if going to Palace as the hotel is situated right next to it. But more expensive than Ibis though.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187337-d601523-Reviews-Fleming_s_Hotel_Frankfurt_Neue_Borse-Frankfurt_Hesse.html


Hey,

I will be visiting Palace at 28 or 29th. Its my first time also to FKK club & I am very interested. Where you will stay in Frankfurt? & for how long?

[Basketcase]

I went along to Palace and I saw several Oase girls working there: Mariella, Alexandra, Samantha and Roxanna.

Lina and Angelina kept ignoring me since I am too hard work for them in the room. They preferred the customers from the East that last 5 minutes and less so the customers from the West who last 10 minutes. I saw Lina process 6 guys in a space of little more than one hour averaging between 5-10 minutes per customer from heading to the room and re-emerging.

I caught up with Gilou from the French forum who was just stopping by on a whistle stop tour of FFM and Syzygies from ISG plus another man known to me who I picked up from the HBf in my hire car. Gilou was in fine form and wanted to do Gina but Gina was elusive and looked not as svelte as she has been when we first met her. Syzygies was doing a split shift at Palace. What a life he leads!!

I did two girls that I knew already. Each of those sessions were marvellous Oase standards.

The last girl was a new German girl from Stuttgart called Rafaella with long brown hair to her mid back. She made me do 100 euro when the other two girls were happy with 50 euro. The german girl was in high demand and it took me to 2 am to finally book a session with her. I got her to blow me around three different times, fucked in one bout in three different positions, a break, some more blowjob and then some tit fucking and then also did a lot of frottage thereabouts until came. Wild.

My friend who came with me as he does not post here: I watched in horror as I saw him getting blown and fucking in the Kino all these ugly wenches.

Then the next day at Oase I had to endure it all over again watching him fuck some not pretty girls (to me). He was getting cheered on by legions of Italiani as he did it on the front round beds in the Kino. Man, the guy is a hero.

[Basketcase]

I liked Palace so I went back for another visit. This time the visit was 13.5 hours.

I caught up with a slim grey haired older man that I keep seeing at Oase and also and old Eastern man that I see at Oase that always seems to book the blonds for the room. Memorably I met the middle eastern man I see in Oase all the time too. It makes me feel less bad being in the clubs all the time when I see other guys in the clubs all the time too.

Today the line up was:

Rafaella (De) beautiful tall brunette from Stuttgart
Natalie (Ro) petite blond
? (hg) blond, petite, in her 30s
Denisa (ro) the skinny blond that Vito Corleone likes that gave me a shite session
Irina (ru) blond MILF that sucks really well.
Julia (ru) light red hair
Ina (ru) blond
? (pl) big and large
Gina (cz) blond
Lina (cz) pretty blond
Angelina (cz) blond, big breasted
Anya (de) blond
? (Brazil) dark girl
Ellis (?) black girl, Mariella's friend
? (?) black girl
? (Cuba)
Samantha (de) dark haired and heavily tattooed
Mariella (ru) cute brunette
Alexandra / Alexis (ro / gr) slim athletic looking blond
Isabella (Hu / ro) pretty, lovely arse
? (Thai)

and many others that I could not recall

Nicoletta was not working today.

Today I did 2 steam rooms and 2 saunas. I ate a little afternoon tea cakes and ate my evening meal at 20:00.

There were many pretty girls at Palace and few men. It only got gay later on at night.

I did two girls that I had done before so not much more to report except guys, Palace line up is rocking and the service is good for where you are. There are other senior members here on this forum that recommend the place like Vito Corleone and Ekliges Lauren.

[Ortos]

? (ro) the skinny blond that Vito Corleone likes that gave me a shite session



You mean: Denisa? (often claiming to be from Moldova, but we know...):)

Oh Btw: Outstanding series of reports. Glad to see the lists --everybody's favourite-- back as well! This board really needs you, BC...

O

[Basketcase]

You mean: Denisa? (often claiming to be from Moldova, but we know...):)

Oh Btw: Outstanding series of reports. Glad to see the lists back as well! This board really needs you...
Hi Ortos,

Yes, I meant skinny blond Denisa. Terrible session.

[Vito Corleone]

Lina and Angelina kept ignoring me since I am too hard work for them in the room. They preferred the customers from the East that last 5 minutes and less so the customers from the West who last 10 minutes. I saw Lina process 6 guys in a space of little more than one hour averaging between 5-10 minutes per customer from heading to the room and re-emerging.


Lina gives a great bj & can make some guys cum fast & off to the next guy. I have spent many hrs with her & she took her time giving me a great sensuous bj & never complained. Bj, sex, bj, sex, rest, bj, sex & etc. Maybe she did not like the company you were with.

[Vito Corleone]

Denisa (ro) the skinny blond that Vito Corleone likes that gave me a shite session.


Denisa can be moody & difficult. When I first sessioned with her, she was brand new & maybe even her first day. I was with HB & even he did not know her. She has changed quite a bit since then, but still gives me a great session.

I am not as skilled as Deda, Henio, Ortos & some others, but I can turn it on if I really want to. Patience & a little charm will get you past her ridiculous antics & silly demands of 100E for 20 minutes & etc.

[Hessen Bub]

Denisa ... has changed quite a bit since then, but still gives me a great session.

Yep, she does. Also does Olympia. Same type. Can be bitchy, can be great.

HB

[Masayama]

I wonder how good line-up I could expect in Palace early on a Sunday, lets say between 11:00 and 15:00.

I'm planning a trip to the Frankfurt area the next weekend.

Since I'm arriving very late, I'd probably go to Oase on Friday night, expecting to arrive there maybe around 01:30. That's a bit late for going to Palace, as they're closing at 04:00. Also I had the impression that the lineup at Palace got a bit thin towards the end of the night when I was there a Saturday some months ago. (Or maybe most of the pretty girls were busy in the rooms?)

Saturday I'm going to World.

If I'm still "fit for fight" on Sunday morning, I thought of stopping either at Oase or Palace on the way back to the airport.

I wasn't impressed with the lineup when I arrived at Oase on a Sunday around noon four weeks ago, but it might have been worse than usual because they had a big party the day before. It did improve during the hours I was there, though.

[Vito Corleone]

I wonder how good line-up I could expect in Palace early on a Sunday, lets say between 11:00 and 15:00.

I'm planning a trip to the Frankfurt area the next weekend.

Since I'm arriving very late, I'd probably go to Oase on Friday night, expecting to arrive there maybe around 01:30. That's a bit late for going to Palace, as they're closing at 04:00. Also I had the impression that the lineup at Palace got a bit thin towards the end of the night when I was there a Saturday some months ago. (Or maybe most of the pretty girls were busy in the rooms?)

Saturday I'm going to World.

If I'm still "fit for fight" on Sunday morning, I thought of stopping either at Oase or Palace on the way back to the airport.

I wasn't impressed with the lineup when I arrived at Oase on a Sunday around noon four weeks ago, but it might have been worse than usual because they had a big party the day before. It did improve during the hours I was there, though.
I think both Oase & Palace will be a little slow on Sunday between 11am to 3pm. Most Sunday lineups pick up a little when the evening shift arrives. In the past, Oase has been my first choice for Sundays unless I knew for sure an ATF I just had to bang was working @ World or Palace.

You should be able to find something you like on Sunday, just do not expect a great Saturday lineup.

[Johnnysim2000]

Hi all,

My first time to FKK Palace and would like to provide my report.

Unexpectedly got some time from a business meeting and made my way according to the excellent instructions in this forum.

Just a few more tips for first timers. The train station is at street level so whenever you get off, just look for that stone wall. It's the only one in your view at the station.

The gap in the stone wall is actually visible from the station platform.

Right when you go through the gap, you will see the Fleming Hotel.

So upon entry, you get a key to both the small valuables locker and the large changing locker with a safe.

I found the premises a bit small to my liking as I had expected a much more larger place. Today, there was probably about 10-15 girls around 2:30 pm to 4:00 pm. Honestly, I am very very picky and just don't fuck any woman. My criteria is always face first, then body. There were some nice bodies around but most of the women were ugly. I'm sorry but the two philipino/malaysian girls were just NASTY in the face. Anyways, the restaurant does actually have some pretty good food. Probably about 15-20 men milling around.

I was approached by all types of women, and winked at by more but after seeing their faces, had no interest. I didn't even try to chat them up. Once I made a decision, I basically said, thank you, but I am having a rest.

Then, I saw a stunning beauty, like a supermodel, I just approached her and said, what is your name and are you busy. Her name was Shayan, looked Hungarian, Romanian, and the answer was no. Okay, so I will wait.

I basically sat right at the front with a clear view of the entrance and the ladies' room for about 1/2 hour until 3:00 pm for Shayan to finish. Could sort of tell she wasn't too interested in me but hey, I would wait for her rather than spending money on ugly ladies. Around 3pm, she comes out and I ask her if she wants to go and she says, "but only with my girlfriends", and I said " I just want you", she said, no. Okay, no problem, if you don't want to earn money from me, nothing I can do.

Then, I saw the most beautiful supermodel just reporting in for her shift. I waited another 15 minutes for her to come out and basically went right up to her since she was fresh and she was Martha from Colombia/Spain. Only here for four days.

What followed was the most amazing hour of sex with the most beautiful colombian I have ever seen. Wow, she was like a supermodel!

Another member has already reviewed her, spyarite2006 and I concur.

She is six feet and her legs are just amazing. She gave LFK and tried so hard to orgasm with me. Also gave me a light massage at the end.

Wow, I just want her again. She was well worth the wait. When leaving, I forgot to ask them to cut my wrist band and I said to lady, Sorry, I must be too happy

Martha, you are a beautiful woman. Wow.

[Vito Corleone]

Then, I saw a stunning beauty, like a supermodel, I just approached her and said, what is your name and are you busy. Her name was Shayan, looked Hungarian, Romanian, and the answer was no. Okay, so I will wait.

I basically sat right at the front with a clear view of the entrance and the ladies' room for about 1/2 hour until 3:00 pm for Shayan to finish. Could sort of tell she wasn't too interested in me but hey, I would wait for her rather than spending money on ugly ladies. Around 3pm, she comes out and I ask her if she wants to go and she says, "but only with my girlfriends", and I said " I just want you", she said, no. Okay, no problem, if you don't want to earn money from me, nothing I can do.


Cheyenne is German & like you said a stunning beauty. You asked her if she was busy & she said no, so why were you waiting? It took her 30 minutes to shower or whatever she was doing? Did she take a client into the room & you waited for her to finish?

I am surprised she would not session with you solo. Maybe she was on the rag. She is a nice girl & really off the hook session! You really missed out on a great PSE.

[Myrmidon]

As I have stated elsewhere, this trip was a trip of firsts for me. It was my first return to Germany after April 2009 ( http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=876460#post876460 and http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=876469 refer. ) It was also the first time I had had a trip influenced by a volcano: this was a re-booking of my trip from April, of this year. It was to be my first visit to FKK World and Bernd's Sauna Club. A couple of other less memorable firsts would also occur and will be mentioned later.

By way of a summary, the trip lasted 8 days plus travel days. I wound up visiting 6 clubs, 5 Hessen clubs and 1 in NRW. Over the course of the visit I sessioned 21 times with 20 ladies. Number of outstanding sessions: 5 (Ava, Katja, Babsi, Tsaria, Michelle). Number of ripoffs: 1. The rest were either satisfactory or just very good. Due to the numbers involved, and in some cases the pace of the activity, not all sessions were "Shot On Goal" sessions. On average, on a 3 session day, two would have a SOG.

Day 1 Monday - Palace. (Socks and Suspenders Tag)
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I departed Canada late but eventually arrived at Frankfurt airport around noon on 16-05-10. Cleared Immigration, Customs, Passport Control and was standing waiting for the airport train by 12:34. I purchased a Day train ticket ( 9,35 € ) rather than a one-way ticket because I intended to head to Palace after settling in at my Hotel, and then take the train back from Palace at day's end. I arrived at Palace by 2:30. Entrance fee: 75 €.

Upon entry I noted that there were about 20 - 25 ladies, mostly, IMHO, 6 - 7s, with a couple 8 - 9s, and about half as many bears. It has been said that Palace has a solid line-up, and I would agree. I quickly checked out the new lay out of the club, now that it had a 'restaurant' and video slot machines. The rest of the facility was unchanged from last year. I should note at this point that I made good use of the restaurant during my visits to Palace and would rate it as an excellent addition.

Heading into the main room area I poked my head into the kino. The only ones there were two Polish blondes, who I believe were named Julia and Monica. Monica is the taller of the two and wears her hair straight down to her mid back. The lady I met with her at that time gave her name as Julia, I think, (more on her later). She has a sexy little pout that she likes to invoke and wears her hair shoulder length with a little curl to it. The two of them began their performance on me, something I would witness several times over the week, as they seem to often hunt as a pack. They like to get in your face, nice and close, (spread your legs if you are seated), stroking your arms, body etc. Being fresh off the plane it was all that I could do to resist. I had decided on the ridiculous rule that I would cruise the club for about an hour prior to making my first selection.

Because of the high number of ladies and much lower bear count, I was hit on over course of the afternoon by almost every girl present. One of my targets for this visit was Saskia, blonde, who gave her home as Germany, but she was not observed at her post at the casino machines. Therefore I finally asked at the counter if she was in. The lady at the desk told me that yes, Saskia was in and she had curly hair. I misunderstood the description and as a result I wound up talking with Nicolette. When I realized my error I had Nicloette redirect me to Saskia, who was by now at the slots. I would concur with the description of her that I previously read as a Grace Kelly look-a-like. Very beautiful. We were quickly off to room 5, which proved to be way too hot for me. As a result, I began to perspire profusely. Saskia was not happy with this and I detected a noticeable drop in her enthusiasm. Despite the drop in her enthusiasm, Saskia performed as a professional and I had my first shot of this tour.

Shortly thereafter I saw Nicolette lounging by pool. I felt it was too soon after Saskia, but Nicolette's unique voice and wild mane had me intrigued. I was laying in the Relax area behind the upstairs bar, off the pool when she motioned me over. Despite my reservation, we were quickly off, unfortunately to room 5 again. Of course it was still too hot but Nicolette worked hard. Considering it as a pay back of finders fee for finding Saskia for me, Nicolette collected shot 2.

During the course of the day / evening the numbers of bears were slow to improve. This made the ladies more aggressive than I remembered from last year. This may have been a bigger phenomenon that I realized because some of the ladies got a little snarly, even when you politely refused their offer of company. I had only so many euros & only so much energy! But when they see you sitting for a long period, it is only natural that they would be a little ticked off. And after a while I felt like a puppy: they were continually stroking my back, arms, while rubbing my tummy. No scratch behind the ears though. And it was a good thing that I quickly figured out that "shatski", or something like it, means 'baby'.

As I said I was approached by almost every girl present. I had noticed one that had not approached me, nor any other bear for that matter. It turned out to be blond, Polish Ava / Eva. She did not hunt like the others, she was IMHO extremely beautiful & confident. She wears her hair short, at about ear length and has a sexy, slightly pointed nose. Having had too hot sessions in Room 5 I asked Ava to find another that would not be so hot. She located one with a sky-light that was much cooler. She was responsible for my first outstanding session, going for 1 hr and shot #3 with her endurance. Even after the session, perhaps due to the low bear numbers, we continued to talk. She even approached me on occasion to continue our talk. I found her to be very friendly, intelligent. She will leave for a brief absence shortly while one of her two sisters at home has a baby. In my opinion, Ava provided a tue GFE . She advised that she only works days, Mon, Wed & Fri., so we made an appointment to meet on Fri. I was impressed with how very friendly ouside of zimmer she was.

After that great session it was about 9 PM and my jet lag was catching up to me, so I left for downtown. Once there I wandered around main RLD for a bit.. As is often reported about this RLD, it is not in the same league as the FKK. That being said, at Rotes Haus, I observed some stunning young blondes / brunettes. Due to their minimal English and that fact that I was too hot, I did not stay. I did learn that they had two levels of service, one being S... and Touch for 30 € for 20 minutes, while the other was S... and F... for 50 € for 30 minutes.

However, feeling adventurous, before I went to my hotel I popped into FKK Miami Sauna Club. Prices were minimal: 10 € entry, 3 € soft drink, standard session prices. There were 5 girls present, no stunners, but not really dogs either, just average. Two blondes were very aggresive, one on each side of me, directing each other in their mother tongue. It was kinda fun but still a no go. You change just inside the main door, using old gym style lockers. When you are done, re-dress & come back to pay your bar bill, go back to change room & get buzzed out, I found it a little scary.

Total Damage: 9,35 € train fare, 75 € entrance at Palace, 50 € each for Saskia & Nicolette, 100 € for Ava, 10 € entrance at Miami and 3 € for beverage = 297,35 €.

Day 5 - Friday - Palace
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I arrived just after opening and like the last visit, the ladies seriously outnumbered the bears. This would be the case on all my Palace visits, though the numbers did increase slightly as the time wore on. I noted the presence of Vivian from Munich, a tall burnette in a red corsette. Monica and Julie were also present, although Julie's name changed later on this visit. Ava / Eva was looking spectacular and I finally saw Bee again, with her distinctive all back tattoo.

Ava was one of the reasons I had returned this date to Palace. I had arranged to see her again when I was last in. We returned to the same cool room that we had used last time and I was rewarded with a great shot and fun time.

My next encounter was with Veronik, an enchantress from the Dominican Republic. She had been particularly aggressive, but I gave in. Once in the zimmer the up-sell began. First for massage, then for time. When I rejected all offers, again I detected a drop in her level of enthusiasm. I ended a lack luster performance about half way through the session. No shot.

I had watched Monica and Julie work their magic several times, so when I caught Julie on her own I made my move. Now, it may have been a communications thing, but Julie's name changed to Ava. I found this interesting as my original Ava / Eva was friends with these two, since they were all Poles. In fact, the Polish ladies seemed to look up to Ava. Since I had sessioned with Ava, twice now, I asked this new girl her name several times and kept coming up with Ava. So I designated her Ava-2. I must admit that I had high hopes for this lady after watching her in action. The session was ok, nothing to complain nor brag about. She did appear to try for an unsolicited cim, cob though and at the pay lockers she asked if I would give her some more, (than the 50 € session fee). I declined this request for a tip.

Finally I noticed a very beautiful lady with a full back tattoo. I asked a fellow who had just been with her what her name was and I thought he had said Mika. When I approached her later, she confirmed that she was Bee, whom I had sessioned with last year, most pleasantly. Unfortunately I was out of commission by this point and I did not see her again later.

I had decided to stay late tonight at Palace. Normally I am done by about 8 PM, because of my early starts. But tonight I decided to stay. Around 8:45 PM it happened: I was talking with a Dutch lady by the upper bar when I noted a stream of clothed persons move through the club. Upon closer inspection I noted that it was a parade of male and female police! I had read about it, and now I was viewing a Police Raid!!

Quickly the police had the place closed down and the women and bears separated. All was done in German. The bears were primarily herded into the pay-locker area, but were not permitted to go to their lockers, nor to use the washroom. Palace service staff for the bar etc. had been herded in with the ladies in the main room. Although no one was too freaked out, a goodly number of the bears, who were foreigners, were a little panicked. There was some concern about how to id yourself since some had left their passports at their hotels. Finally a general announcement was made by a male in civilian dress, but I missed most of it over the comments of the other bears. One of the police standing with us advised that the men would just have to furnish id and then they could stay or go. They were only interested in the girls. Those around me seemed assured now, as this was the same thing I had told them, based on what I had previously read about these events. Still, with my North American background, this was an upsetting situation, though I had broken no laws! Eventually I was allowed to retrieve my passport and was vetted by the police at the main reception. It is my understanding that those who had left their id at their hotels would be escorted there to retrieve it. Some had the id in their cars and were permitted to get it, with police escort. How long the entire process took I do not know. I was not in the mood to wait around. Palace staff issued a free entry voucher and apologized for the inconvenience. They seemed to be genuinely concerned. Outside I grabbed a cab to my hotel rather than wait for the U-bahn.

Total Damage: Day U-bahn pass, (local tour then back to Palace) 6 €, Entrance 75 €, Ava / Eva 50 €, Veronik 50 €, Ava-2 50 €, Taxi (changed my mind about returning to my hotel via train) 15 € = 246 €.

Next: 1025672
Day 5 leads to Day 6: 1025673

[Myrmidon]

Further to: 1025672
Because this was a holiday in Germany and was also a gorgeous sunny and warm day, I wanted to leave my hotel early to catch the train to Palace. I knew the train numbers might be reduced and thought there would be alot of people taking them to their holiday destinations. I arrived in the Industriehof area early to meet my fellow ISG'er to go for breakfast, but I was even earlier than I expected. So I went for walk to Ludwig- Landmann Str & back, and then coffee on the patio @ Flemmings. Birds were singing everywhere. It was really quite relaxing. And there were lot of jet contrails in sky; I was confident that tomorrow I could fly home!

Because it was such a nice day out, there was of course discussion on why go to an indoor club? The thinking went something like this: I had spent two sunny days at World & Oase and my friend could spend more days this week at these clubs. But since there was so much sun, and today being a holiday, I figured that those clubs should be very busy, with lots of girls and bears. Palace, on the other hand, may be quiet: few girls and fewer bears. The lower number of bears would make for better hunting, even with a slight loss of quality. And I had my free pass from Friday night! I split it with my friend so that even if we decided to leave and go elsewhere, it was not that great an investment.

In the end it turned out that I was right: there were not so many bears and the girls continued to be unhappy. So I did my best to cheer them up. Having watched them for some time I was still intrigued by Monika and Ava-2 ( or Julie, whatever). But because I had been less than impressed with her friend, I opted to go solo with Monika. She was much better than her friend but I still found it to be just a routine, 1 shot on goal session. That being said, it was refreshing improvement on the previous nights downturn.

A note here: this trip had not been chemically assisted, other than vitamins (zinc) and cold medication (ginseng). For the most part they had worked well, as I found both my libido and fluid production to be increased. However, with the length of this trip I was finding it difficult to get started sometimes. The mind was strong but the body was weak. Other times, I would get underway, only to loose momentum very easily. So when my friend offered a small amount of "blue" pill I tried it. This day was the first time I used it. I was truly impressed with the results, and I feel that I may have gotten to a larger size than normal for me. The ladies seemed to be impressed, and we know they would not play to our ego!

So I moved on confidently to my next conquest: Sabrina. As is often the case, even good interviews can come undone: promising results were nullified in the room where the upsell to 100 € was made. When I rejected it, she withdrew kussen, but left licken for 50€. She did attempt to have a cob but I was able to block my own shot in time.

Upon exiting the room I ran into my friend who seem to have had enough of this environment, so we said our goodbyes as he left for one of the outdoor venues. It was most enjoyable having a like-minded soul to talk to and share adventures.

Then things got difficult again. There had been a brunette with shoulder length hair, large bolt-ons and usually wore a waist corsette. She was very beautiful and had a tattoo of crossing ribbons down the back of her left leg, like they were closing a stocking. She also appeared to have two hand gun tattoos on her shoulders. I finally succeeded in getting her to come see me on the swing in the main hall. We got along well, except that she did not do kussen. Although she would have made a good optiflik, I dismissed her as I really wanted some warm contact.

There had also been two succulent young blondes, each with long straight blond hair and c-cup bodies. They also had an aloof look to them as they walked. I wanted one of them. They seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time at the gaming machines or in the front smoker. Finally I approached them by the machines and watched as their balance slowly dropped from about 24 € to about 15 €. My close proximity did not seem to distract either one. So I left for a bit. Then I returned and noted the balance was now only a couple of €. Still nothing from them, so I asked one if she did not like me? She replied that she was playing. That should have been my final clue, but I persisted until she advised that she did not do kussen, while her friend said ok but not for 50 €. It seemed that the extremely beautiful nightshift ladies came with an attitude.

Except for Carina, a beautiful blonde Romania who was relaxing by the pool, where I had previously met Nicolette. She was quite agreeable, on several levels, and in the room we finished with a fine cim for 100 €. At the pay locker when I paid the 100 € she looked a little disappointed, although she did not say anything. At this point, with the emerging shark mentality I did not care for more attitude. I was satisfied with this session as the close to my tour.

Total Damages: return U-Bahn 6€ + entrance 35 € (split free pass), + 50 € + 50 € + 100 € = 241 €.

So this brought to an end my tour. It had indeed been a tour of firsts: first return to Germany, first rescheduling due to a volcano, first trip to World, Bernd's, Miami and Sudfass. And my first raid, but I prefer to leave that one out.

On the positive side there was my reunion with Michelle at Oase which was as incredible as expected. At Bernd's both Katja and Babsi knocked my socks off and I would love to return to see them, (together?). Tsaria was equally a mind blowing experience at World. And Ava / Eva at Palace was a more than pleasant find. I am sure there are many more to be had should I return. There were a couple of disappointments, but I will not dwell on them. For the most part, the ladies were very good.

If asked to rate / compare the clubs I would find it difficult. Bernd's of course stands on it's own, due to it's small size, but strong line-up, IMHO. Facilities were ok, nothing great, and I did not sample the meagre food offerings.

With the Hessen clubs, Miami was just a total mistake, something I did because it was there and I had not tried it. And I would not recommend it.

Sudfass was a very interesting facility: the interior decoration is something to see. The line-up was poor when I was there, but I imagine it could improve. It is a small facility though. But the zimmer I was taken to was quite large, with it's own ensuite bathroom. Everywhere was clean; but again I did not sample the food.

World was a pleasant first for me. I liked the facilities, indoors and out. There could have been easier access to the towels and better bar service later on, but it was clean and the rooms were comfortable. I think it's outdoor space was larger than that at Oase, but I prefer the more numerous outdoor 'zimmer' options at Oase. The food available in the eating area and the later bar-b-que were good, but not spectacular.

Oase continues to be a favourite of mine, and will continue to be so as long as Michelle is there. I found the facilities cleaner than previously. Food was the same as before: I really do not like the line-ups for bar-b-que but the food is good. The new rooms are nice, with all the extra mirrors.

Palace was probably the greatest surprise and improvement. In my opinion, the line-up was one of the strongest, even if I did run into 'attitude' towards the end. That may have been partly my fault. I was on a long trip and in each venue for a long time. I sessioned on average 3 times over a 6 - 8 hour period. This meant that there were long periods of inactivity for me. But for the girls there were decreased numbers of bears and they could get upset seeing me not go with them all that often. And the restaurant was a fine addition to the club. Now if only they could work on the air conditioning....

In the end I had a great trip. The final tally was 8 days in 6 clubs with 20 women for 21 sessions! And the majority of the sessions were good to outstanding. I say thanks to all who have posted materials or pm's that assisted my having such a great time. Thank You all and Thank You to my ISG partner: may the rest of your trip be everything you wish for.

[Angus Magee]

In the end I had a great trip. The final tally was 8 days in 6 clubs with 20 women for 21 sessions! And the majority of the sessions were good to outstanding. I say thanks to all who have posted materials or pm's that assisted my having such a great time. Thank You all and Thank You to my ISG partner: may the rest of your trip be everything you wish for.

Thanks Myr for the extensive series of reports-a very enjoyable & informative read. My only regret is that I could not have been there at this time to have a chin wag & maybe lift a pint. But-there is always next year.

Stay well.

AM

[Hessen Bub]

Cheyenne ...
I am surprised she would not session with you solo. Maybe she was on the rag. She is a nice girl & really off the hook session! You really missed out on a great PSE.

You could have missed a shitty session and a discussion about CIM you did not have with her. Did happen before, I saw it twice!

HB

[Sebastiane]

Then, I saw the most beautiful supermodel just reporting in for her shift. I waited another 15 minutes for her to come out and basically went right up to her since she was fresh and she was Martha from Colombia/Spain. Only here for four days.

What followed was the most amazing hour of sex with the most beautiful colombian I have ever seen. Wow, she was like a supermodel!

Another member has already reviewed her, spyarite2006 and I concur.

She is six feet and her legs are just amazing. She gave LFK and tried so hard to orgasm with me. Also gave me a light massage at the end.

Wow, I just want her again. She was well worth the wait. When leaving, I forgot to ask them to cut my wrist band and I said to lady, Sorry, I must be too happy

Martha, you are a beautiful woman. Wow.Yes she is and good to see someone else with great taste in women! She's back?! I must go to Palace then as she´s not been seen for a while at Palace!

She really tries hard in the room too.

Glad to be of service!

[Sebastiane]

. One of my targets for this visit was Saskia, blonde, who gave her home as Germany, but she was not observed at her post at the casino machines. Therefore I finally asked at the counter if she was in. The lady at the desk told me that yes, Saskia was in and she had curly hair. I misunderstood the description and as a result I wound up talking with Nicolette. When I realized my error I had Nicloette redirect me to Saskia, who was by now at the slots. I would concur with the description of her that I previously read as a Grace Kelly look-a-like. Very beautiful. We were quickly off to room 5, which proved to be way too hot for me. As a result, I began to perspire profusely. Saskia was not happy with this and I detected a noticeable drop in her enthusiasm. Despite the drop in her enthusiasm, Saskia performed as a professional and I had my first shot of this tour.

Shortly thereafter I saw Nicolette lounging by pool. I felt it was too soon after Saskia, Myr,

So Saskia is beautiful hanh?! You should try her for an hour or more...

And I just want to say thank you to you for your wonderfully detailed reports.

They´re so fun to read.

[Myrmidon]

... But-there is always next year.

Stay well.

AM
You are quite right about the future... maybe it is time to see historic Berlin, though I am kinda hooked on Bernd's ( Katja / Babsi ) and Ava / Eva @ Palace and Michelle @ Oase and Zara @ World....

I will wallow in my memories a couple of months & then start the process all over again. My favourite type of work... ;)

Thanks for the comments, most appreciated.

Myr.

[Eddie123]

Hi all,

Then, I saw a stunning beauty, like a supermodel, I just approached her and said, what is your name and are you busy. Her name was Shayan, looked Hungarian, Romanian, and the answer was no. Okay, so I will wait.

I basically sat right at the front with a clear view of the entrance and the ladies' room for about 1/2 hour until 3:00 pm for Shayan to finish. Could sort of tell she wasn't too interested in me but hey, I would wait for her rather than spending money on ugly ladies. Around 3pm, she comes out and I ask her if she wants to go and she says, "but only with my girlfriends", and I said " I just want you", she said, no. Okay, no problem, if you don't want to earn money from me, nothing I can do.Johnny,

I agree with the other poster. You SHOULD have grabbed Cheyenne the first time you talked to her. She is not only gorgeous but also a superb session. One of the best BJs I've ever had. I had a session with her back in November last year and i was blown away. I don't think she kisses everyone but who cares. She is great at everything else. Were you at Palace on a weekend? i am planning a trip back to Germany in August and i am hoping i can see her at Palace during my visit :).

[Sebastiane]

I went to Palace after leaving FKK World empty handed (see report in World forum)! Getting there around 6 ish I was surprised to find it with so few men compared to a normal sat evening. The great thing was that there were about 20-30 women waiting around for guys and lavishing attention on them. The best thing of all: almost all were 8+ with enough 9s and 10s to make the mind boggle. The quality metre has been set to HIGH at the moment in Palace!

Immediately after getting changed I was delighted to spot the supermodel Martha sitting by the main bar with a couple of other chicks. She really has an incredible body (easily best in Palace IMHO, really supermodel type) about 180, slender, with ample firm natural breasts and a legs that go on for ever and a perfectly round ass. A very attractive face too with dark hair, brown eyes, and a pretty, sharp, demeanour. But she speaks v little English or Deutsch which makes communication difficult. Anyway in the past she has provided great service to match her perfect looks but this time I got the most bizarre experience I've ever had in an FKK to date. It started all perfectly well when we went to a room, and she was sweet and gentle and a little shy like she always is but we did some DFK as she stroked me. She bent over to straighten the towels and I licked that perfectly round ass. She smiled. She lay down and I asked her to spread her legs as I licked her pussy. She started to tremble after a while of muschi eating and gave involuntary shudders and lifted her hips up to push her pussy deeper into my lapping tongue. I put my hands under her ass. So far so perfect. Then she told me lie down and we kissed some more DFK and LFK. Then she kissed me down to my navel before beginning to give me a great BBBJ. Just seeing this mesmerising creature with her long body leaning over mine as she took me in her mouth was a sight for my eyes indeed! I was awed! I gently stroked her skin and cupped her ass as she sucked my cock. Then she switched to 69. I licked her pussy and then began to tongue her arsehole. She liked that and lowered her body to give me easier access to her anus as I probed that dank hole of hers. She clearly liked that and began to deep throat me. I switched between pussy and arsehole.

Then I signalled to fuck and after some LFK she blew me a bit more before putting on a condom and sitting astride me. Her pussy is really hot and tight.

It was amazing. She bounced up and down on my dick. Then she got into cowgirl. My hands on her ass. My feelings at that point were indescribable. Ecstatic. Enhanced by the mirrors which let me see this creature in all her physical glory. She got tired and asked me to do doggy but I don't like it so much and so said lets do mish instead. I had already told her in the beginning that I wanted to session for an hour at least. We fucked in mish for some time and I was really enjoying this, in complete control, deliberately trying to prolong my pleasure and not wanting to come yet. I then moved her legs onto my shoulders and got onto my knees, as this is my fave position and lets me get in deeper penetration. I also fucked her with one of her legs on my shoulder and the other flat. That was really sensational. Then I moved both her legs back onto my shoulders. We fucked in this position in total for about 10 to 15 minutes non stop and she was saying come baby, come baby and we kissed DFK intermittently whilst I continued to pound her. Suddenly she stops and tells me to stop, pushing me away with her arm. A bit surprised and with a raging hard on I ask her what's wrong and remind her I booked for an hour. She says in her broken English, "I don't want to carry on. Just give me 50. " Then she apologises and says sorry and starts to get ready to leave. I'm a bit stunned at this point by the sudden change in her behaviour. I ask her why and she says something about feeling like throwing up or nausea or something I don't quite get. I say no problem and are you okay? She points to her belly. I'm a kind guy and say to her no problem don't worry and ask if she is well. We leave the room, I give her 50, disappointed and she says "sorry" again and leaves. That was so bizarre. I say to her no problem maybe we can finish later when you're feeling better and she doesn't reply. Most puzzling of all she avoids me for the rest of the evening, making it obvious she doesn't want to go with me. I am a bit stunned! Never seen a girl do that mid session.

(the only thing I can think of is I was fucking her too hard and maybe it hurt as she does have a very tight pussy but my dick is just above average but that doesn't explain why she would make it obvious she wanted to avoid me everytime I approached her later to want to enquire about round 2? I did see her take guys into a room and be out 5 mins later. It was almost as if when she saw me approaching her or sitting near her she would grab the guy next to her! Maybe I was too much hard work and she wasnt prepared for so much fucking. I noticed the guys she took tended to be slight and mostly oriental and out in a few minutes!

The most promising session, with a girl who is a supermodel by any measure and whose looks make me go gaga, ended (for me) in disappointment. Face: 9. 5 Body: 10 Initial Performance: 9 Overall Performance: 5 (poor due to bizarre ending.)

Damage so far: 50€ (+ entry of 75€).

The rest of the evening was amazing. I went with 3 more girls who will be discussed in the following parts of this report: Miriana (German, 26).best GFE ever in Palace; Gulcaan (Turkish, mid 20s) another excellent find: Alexandria (Alex: said she was Greek but pospsibly Hungarian), 24, another GFE. I am fucking exhaused after 7 hours at Palace and 475€ euro lighter which is why I will write detailed reports about my sessions with Miriana, Gulcaan and Alex tomorrow.

[Sebastiane]

After the bizarre episode with the stunning Martha, I couldn't believe my luck when I saw a girl I hadn't seen for ages at Palace and one I had sessioned with once before when I was a newby to the FKK world: the German Mariana (or Miriana): about 173 cm, blonde (not natural blonde I think), wavy/curly hair, quite long, slender body. Very friendly. Sexy and horny as hell. Well we went to the room and all I am going to say is that in my three years or so of visiting Palace this has to be if not the best session I have ever had then close to it. It was incredible. This girl is a real sex expert and knows exactly how to touch, lick, bite, caress and stroke a man's body to have him moaning (literally) with pleasure. I extended the session to an hour and it actually lasted longer because after we had finished with the sex – I came in her mouth in an incredible blowjob, with her continuing to suck it after I had ejaculated to the point it was so sensitive it was getting painful and I had to tell her to please stop! We fucked in many positions too and she was open to most things. Best of all I asked her to lick my ass and she said it would be 50€ extra. She proceeded to give me the best rimjob I have ever had. It was real porno style, like Rocco Siffreddi's movies. It started with her telling me to turn onto my stomach and putting her tongue in my ass. Then she licked my perineum, balls and ass in succession. It was awesome. She I stood up and she kneeled behind me and continued to rim me. It feels awesome especially when she is jerking you off with the other hand. Another amazing thing she does is she runs her nails over your body and when she does it to your inner thighs and and stomach it is mindblowing. She also gets very wet when fucking. Man! That session was awesome and left me sore and totally knackered. After the sex we continued to laugh and joke and kiss and cuddle for at least another 15 mins for which she didn't charge me. Marianna is a really funny girl too and great fun to be with! And she fucks like no tomorrow! I eventually told her we should go! I paid her 200€ (100 for the hour (and 15 minutes), +50 for CIM, +50 for analingus).

Mariana, Germany: Face: 8: Body: 8. 5 Performance: 10+ Repeat: Hell yes! Damage: 200€

After that I needed to shower and eat and I ate in the restaurant. It was good quality. The food in Palace is the best of any FKK I've been to yet. I was joined by another guy from the UK and it was fun to talk to a fellow mongerer. It was his first time at Palace and I enjoyed listening to his tale and tried to give him some tips for the future on avoiding sharks etc. And some recommended girls! I also recommended ISG! Whilst eating I spotted a very petite and pretty girl eating. After we'd finished eating I went up to her and asked her if she'd come with me. She said sure. So after she'd finished eating she joined my new found friend and I at the bar. My friend had to leave so I was left with her! She is SO sweet and has a really great toned body. I loved how she slipped her surprisingly long tongue into my mouth and loved also the feel of her round, toned butt under my hands. Best of all: her personality! I explained I was tired and might not be able to come and she said no problems. It was amusing (and a tad annoying!) when she tried to tell me that pussy licking was an extra as was DFK. I laughed and explained to her I wasnt a newbie and that many other girls.

Did it for 50€. I agreed and we went to a room and she is really good fun to be with and very sexy and sweet at the same time. Great BBBJ skills. And kissing. And a very very tight pussy. However I was still exhausted by the previous session and wasn't always able to come. I had agreed to lick her ass for an extra 10€. After half an hour it was obvious I wasnt going to come! We still had great fun. I really like this girl, the Turkish Gulcan and will definitely try to see her in the future. Damage: 50€

(she said that since you didn't come I will charge you only 50).

Gulcan, Turkish: Face: 8 Body: 9: Performance: 9. Repeat? Yes! Damage: 50€

I then had some time in the 90 degree sauna and then the pool. Relaxing. Saw some great looking girls including one I really wanted to do: the gorgeous blonde Lena. Indeed, I had spoken to her earlier when I entered and was planning to go with her. Same with Romanian Camilla. But Lena has an amazing body and I regret not doing her this time round. I have some fantasies which she can fulfill.! I then saw Martha again and was about to approach her when she made it clear from her facial expressions she didn't want to go with me. So, I centred in on a girl next to her. A lithe, young, blonde girl with white skin and a thin, aqualine nose whom I hadn't seen before. A rose tattoo on her back. She said she was Greek and named Alexandriana. We proceeded to have a really nice conversation and although I wasnt planning on another session I really liked her personality and style with on pressure to go with her, etc. So I agreed to go with her. In the room she was also very good with lots of DFK and the usual stuff I like. GFE. After an hour of sex of various sorts she finished me off with a great slow handjob and then gave me a fantastic massage. It was good playful stuff. Afterwards I paid her a 100€. Another new girl to repeat with. Afterwards she said get showered and join me for food in the restaurant and so I did. We chatted for a good 20 minutes being joined by her friend, She even got me my food! And invited me to share some of hers. Really friendly person! She also was able to speak fairly fluent Hungarian with her friend so not sure of her Greek but could be wrong!

Alex(andria), Greece: Face: 7 Body: 8 Performance: 9. Repeat? Yes! Cost: 100€

I showered and left soon afterwards. A great night!

Summary:

Total Damage: 75 entrance + 50 Martha + 200 Mariana + 50 Gulcan + 100 Alexandria = 475€.

[Masayama]

she said she was greek and named alexandriana.
...
really friendly person! she also was able to speak fairly fluent hungarian with her friend so not sure of her greek but could be wrong!

alex(andria), greece: face: 7 body: 8 performance: 9. repeat? yes! cost: 100€
i wonder if this could be the alexandra that used to work at oase, but has been mentioned in a few reports from palace in the last couple of months. she used to say she was from romania, but later claimed she was from greece.

are you sure she didn't speek romanian with her friends? could be she's from the hungarian minority in romania, of course. i know some romanian girls lie about their nationality, but i don't see why she should if she was from hungary, as hungarians don't have such a bad reputation. (although i've had mixed experiences - from stellar to terrible - with both nationalities.)

i'd rate her looks higher than you did, though, if we're talking of the same girl.

anyone knows if she's still working at oase now and then, or is she currently only at palace? any chance of seing her friday after midnight or early sunday afternoon?

[West By Sun]

I wonder if this could be the Alexandra that used to work at Oase.Yes, she used to work in Oase two years ago with her Romanian friend Nicole. Alexandra is so leggy, has very smooth hair and skin and a kind of hoocked nose so that she looks like a Greek. Really many Romanian girls tend to hide their real origin but it does not sign they are bitchy in room, some of them provide a superb session. For them it is just a maquillage to change the taste each day, a half French a half Brit a half Australian a half Hungarian a half Greek a half Italian ... and so on. Only suppressed phallocentric neurotics being suffered by super ego are blaming them. Alexandra's case is its good sample.

WBS

[Masayama]

Yes, she used to work in Oase two years ago with her Romanian friend Nicole.
Alexandra's been at Oase much more recently than two years ago. Last time I met her was in late March this year.

This Nicole friend, could it be the same Nicole that I mentioned in this report?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983457&postcount=5279

[West By Sun]

Alexandra's been at Oase much more recently than two years ago. Last time I met her was in late March this year.

This Nicole friend, could it be the same Nicole that I mentioned in this report?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983457&postcount=5279Ya, Alexandra recently came back to Hessen to work around after long absence. Ya, that must be the same Nicole as the one mentioned in your report. I do not know another Nicole. Nicole likes to claim she is a half Australian or a half French but gave me good sessions.

WBS

[Filthybrucie]

just a quick message, will post more soon.

was at palace yesterday for the first time. speechless.

place is clean. facilities great. food good. girls gorgeous. punters relaxed and chatty (i had good chats with 7-8 guys over the course of my stay.

had 4 girls.

avoid. samira lebanese. nice to look at, big natural tits (albeit a little floppy) nice full figure. but bored and boring in room. ver unerotic.

best blow job. eva from bulgaria. slim petite blonde with pert lttle titties. not a 10 facially but cut eenough. and filthy. we agreed just bbbj 50eu. she ended up snogging loads and lettign me cim. and evensaid after not to worry about extra 50. she was in a good mood. tippe dher 20. she flirted and smoiked with me all evening after that. sweet girl.

sexiest and best fuck. stella from albania. tall slim and gypsy looking. (although she is adament tha she has no gypsy blood). pert tits. great kisser again kissed loads. let me lick her loads and was happy with 50.

actually i was chatting to her about an hour before we had session. she wa sdrinking a weird drink and i asked her hat it was. she said coke and orange. she offered me a taste. i suggeste dit would be better with vodka. she said the girls can't buy drinks so i offered her one. she had vodka redbull. 15 euro. she was really made up tha ti bought her a drink. about an hour later she just walked up to me and started snogging me. but not asking if i want to go to a room. i had to make themove on her. wasas close to pulling as you can get in a brothel

actually only girl tried to get extra was samira. and when i felt she wasnt going to be any good and declined she lost interest totally.

and great session with german girl. very tall and slimish. prettiest face in the place. actually i can't believe how pretty she is. most the guys felt she looked too arrogant. but was actually a chilled babe.

actually i just realised that although i was admiring all the large natural breasts on slim birds, i went with small breasts for the most part.

had 2nd meal at 3 am and back to ibis round the corner.

[Toscana]

Been away from Germany for a couple of weeks and came back to hear that the German government has found time to rush out a new law banning naked short selling.

I am assuming they had Palace in mind, or am I wrong? You have to admire them.

[Johnnysim2000]

Johnny,

I agree with the other poster. You SHOULD have grabbed Cheyenne the first time you talked to her. She is not only gorgeous but also a superb session. One of the best BJs I've ever had. I had a session with her back in November last year and i was blown away. I don't think she kisses everyone but who cares. She is great at everything else. Were you at Palace on a weekend? i am planning a trip back to Germany in August and i am hoping i can see her at Palace during my visit :).Hi Eddie and all:

I wanted to grab Cheyenne but she just avoided me the whole time. I was feeling like a stalker as I was almost following her around the club!!!

I was there last weekend. I also went to OASE but not impressed at all. I'll post a report shortly about OASE.

[Eddie123]

Hi Eddie and all:

I wanted to grab Cheyenne but she just avoided me the whole time. I was feeling like a stalker as I was almost following her around the club!!!

I was there last weekend. I also went to OASE but not impressed at all. I'll post a report shortly about OASE.

Haha, that's what you get for not picking her when you first had the chance :). Men would kill to screw a gorgeous babe like that here in the US. Even the ugly American women think their shit don't stink. Worthless cunts! lol!.

By the way, did you run into Clara and Cindy from Poland?? they are two gorgeous blondes. I remember back in November i had Cheyenne, Clara, and Cindy the same night. It was by far the best night of my life!! :).

[Jake993]

Gents,
Once again I have a long layover between flights in Frankfurt. I arrive from the USA at about 11:30 AM and have a connecting flight at 5:40 PM. I expect that I will already have a boarding pass for my connecting flight so I will not need to check in.

My first time to Frankfurt I did the same thing and despite it being early on a Monday morning, I had a very nice time. I am assuming that this will be enough time for me to catch the train into the center and a taxi to Palace for a few pleasant hours on a Friday afternoon. My questions are;

How crowded is it going to be on Friday afternoon and what are the odds that I will be too rushed to make the visit worth while?

Would it be more time/cost efficient to just take a taxi from the airport to Oasse?

Comments and or opinions would be welcomed and appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Jake

[Hessen Bub]

Gents,

How crowded is it going to be on Friday afternoon and what are the odds that I will be too rushed to make the visit worth while?

Crowded streets or crowded club? Palace will be slow, even on a Friday it does not pick up before 5 or 6 pm, when you will be back tonthe airport. Traffic should be no issue.

HB

[Travelerb69]

You will have a tight schedule, not worthy the trip to Oase; moreover Oase's lineup just gets better after 6pm- go to Palace.



Gents,
Once again I have a long layover between flights in Frankfurt. I arrive from the USA at about 11:30 AM and have a connecting flight at 5:40 PM. I expect that I will already have a boarding pass for my connecting flight so I will not need to check in.

How crowded is it going to be on Friday afternoon and what are the odds that I will be too rushed to make the visit worth while?

Would it be more time/cost efficient to just take a taxi from the airport to Oasse?

Comments and or opinions would be welcomed and appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Jake

[Jake993]

You will have a tight schedule, not worthy the trip to Oase; moreover Oase's lineup just gets better after 6pm- go to Palace.

Crowded streets or crowded club? Palace will be slow, even on a Friday it does not pick up before 5 or 6 pm, when you will be back tonthe airport. Traffic should be no issue. HB

Thank guys, for the confirmation. That's was sort of what I thought but it's always good to get local knowledge!!!!

Jake

[Charlie Croker]

Thank guys, for the confirmation. That's was sort of what I thought but it's always good to get local knowledge!!!!

JakeAs time is short I would recommend you take a taxi from the airport to The Palace. This will probably cost about €30 to €35 and will take about 10 to 15 minutes. Yes it's expensive for a cab ride.

If you go for the train you might have to wait on the platform for up to 20 minutes for the next train. Then get a taxi (easy) from the main station. This cab will cost you about €10 and take about 8 minutes. You can of course get the S8/9 from the airport to Hauptwache station and change on to the U6/7 line straight to Industriof. This will save you the cab fair but take a little longer.

Of course it all depends on your funds/time:

1) Trains all the way: €3.80 each way (I think there is a day card but I'm not sure). I would estimate a maximum of 60 minutes travelling time. 35 minutes if you are lucky. I'd guess maybe about 45 mins from leaving customs.

2) Train / Taxi: €3.80 each way on the train (same cost) + €10 each way in taxi. This will probably shave about 10 to 15 minutes off of the journey time.

3) Taxis all the way. €30 ish each way. Walk out of customs straight into taxi outside the door and say "FKK Palace Please" and you will be there in about 15 minutes.

Of course the taxi route will cost you maybe €65 more but you'll get an hour longer there.

I hope this helps.

Charlie.

FFM Local.

Train/Taxi both ways = ~€5 for train + €20 taxi = €25. I'd estimate it would take you a maximum of

[Richie 22]

After reading all the advise I visited The Palace late on a Sunday evening. What an experience. I was not tempted by the first approach from the girls and considered the first encounter. All in all an excellent time 3 girls a Romanian a good first shot. Alexis? greek with whom I had the most enjoyable time no pressure to up sell. and finally a chinesse girl who gave a massage to remember. I did get caught on an up sell but overall a return visit is a must when I can make an excuse to visit frankfurt agian.

The damage 75 E entrance 2 at 50 Euro and the Chinese girl 120Euro.

[Billzhillz]

Well it was my first time in the Palace FKK, you can't match the quality of women. I am planing to go there in a week or so, I would like to find someone who would like to meet up there for a few drinks and show me the ropes. I had 2 women during my first visit. The first was a sexy spanish girl that let me CIM for 100 E. The next girl did the upsell to the max. I want to meet up with someone that is a regular that can show me the way lol. I have also been told that FKK oase is as good if not better, what do you think. I am new to the FKK I am in Frankfurt for business and my hotel is in the Redlight so I had my fun there.

[Checkers1]

Well it was my first time in the Palace FKK, you can't match the quality of women. I am planing to go there in a week or so, I would like to find someone who would like to meet up there for a few drinks and show me the ropes. I had 2 women during my first visit. The first was a sexy spanish girl that let me CIM for 100 E. The next girl did the upsell to the max. I want to meet up with someone that is a regular that can show me the way lol. I have also been told that FKK oase is as good if not better, what do you think. I am new to the FKK I am in Frankfurt for business and my hotel is in the Redlight so I had my fun there.

I'll be at Palace next Friday (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2279). If you'd like to join, let me know.

checkers1

[Breadman]

and the Chinese girl 120Euro.

Just how did you come to pay 120?

[Diefrankfurter]

Went to the palace. This was the third time I have been there. I went to OASE and preferred it much better the last time but wanted to see if my calibration was off on Palace.

The place was somewhat empty because of World cup (?) perhaps? Don't know. Saw some regular gals there. An absolute stunner from Columbia, who says she lives in Barcelona, was the one I selected (Martina).

By far the hottest and prettiest one in the place. Looked like a model. I asked her to join me in one of the rooms. Some LFK and sensual touching but then I think she felt I was being too fast or rough but she was trying to get out so quick. I really have to say, despite her looks, it was really not worth it.

Ate her out and that was nice. Great sex from behind but overall I would give her 5 on performance. I think she just wasn't into me.

I will go to OASE again, even though it will cost a bit more to go there. My last experience there was much better. I have to admit, the food there sucks.

[Sebastiane]

in what could be one of my last visits to palace i went in the early evening to find a lot of women -- many new faces -- and guys but for a sat it was strangely quiet and that was due to the world cup no doubt.

saw the beautiful martha whilst eating but she avoided eye contact with me
and so i didnt go with her.

my first was also a first for me: i decided to try a threesome with melissa (germany, blonde, large tits (man made)) and emel (lithe and tall dark haired turk). i´ve been with them both individually and had great sessions but together although it was nice to try out a porn fantasy and it was amazing seeing them take turns to suck my dick i thought they spent far too much time with each other and talking. i came in their mouths and then they both golden showered me (another porn fantasy i thought i´d try). it was an experience but i dont think i´d go for a threesome again. cost: 400. performance: 6

i was drained though and then after the soccer went with alex again but i was still too tired to come and an ok session finished with me not coming. she overacts in my opinion with all the fake noises and stuff. 100. performance: 7 and it was only 40 minutes or so in the room!

still wanting to come i went with a beautiful asian girl, another first, who looked a bit like michelle yeoh but prettier, hoping i´d be able to come. she was really pretty with a great body (she said she was half vietnamese and half german called michelle) but in the room she immediately began to upsell saying she wouldn´t let me kiss her or lick her pussy for 50. i told her i knew the rules of the place but she said only the romanians do everything for 50. i knew i was being ripped off but my desire to come overrode my intelligence so i agreed to a 100. she gave an amazing blow job and is v easy on the eye but her constant upselling put me off. and i still wasnt able to come! she wanted to give her another 100 to extend it to an hour. i said no. so that was that. face: 9 body: 9 performance: 6. repeat: dont know.

so my possibly last visit to palace due to a job change was a disappointment and also the most expensive largely due to an ill conceived desire to act out a porn fantasy of a 3 some and trying to fuck when obviously too tired.

i plan to be back once more to have another session with saskia to end on a high. then, depending on where my career takes me, i dont know when i´ll be back at fkk palace. its certainly the thing i´ll miss most about this great country.

[Ak233]

my first was also a first for me: i decided to try a threesome with melissa (germany, blonde, large tits (man made)) and emel (lithe and tall dark haired turk). i´ve been with them both individually and had great sessions but together although it was nice to try out a porn fantasy and it was amazing seeing them take turns to suck my dick i thought they spent far too much time with each other and talking. i came in their mouths and then they both golden showered me (another porn fantasy i thought i´d try). it was an experience but i dont think i´d go for a threesome again. cost: 400. performance: 6sybarite,

very interesting session. if you don't mind, please break down further the actual costs for your session. was this a 30 minute or 60 minute session (ie 100e or 200e for the girls). when you say they took too much time together, do you mean that it was lesbian activity, or just talking and not attending to you? also how much extra did you have to pay to each girl for the [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103)?

thanks

[Sebastiane]

sybarite,

very interesting session. if you don't mind, please break down further the actual costs for your session. was this a 30 minute or 60 minute session (ie 100e or 200e for the girls). when you say they took too much time together, do you mean that it was lesbian activity, or just talking and not attending to you? also how much extra did you have to pay to each girl for the rep002?

thanksit was 60 minutes. so 100 euros each for both girls for 1 hour (2 * 100) + 50 euros each for cim (2 * 50) (they shared my cum) + 50 euros each for the rep002 (2 * 50) = 400 euros.

they just spent a lot of time talking and trying to upsell! and to be fair it took ages for them both to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). apparently its not as easy as it appears.

[Billzhillz]

Sounds good, what time are you going to go. Do you live in the area?


I'll be at Palace next Friday (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2279). If you'd like to join, let me know.

checkers1

[Basketcase]

it was 60 minutes. so 100 euros each for both girls for 1 hour (2 * 100) + 50 euros each for cim (2 * 50) (they shared my cum) + 50 euros each for the rep002 (2 * 50) = 400 euros.

they just spent a lot of time talking and trying to upsell! and to be fair it took ages for them both to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). apparently its not as easy as it appears.sybarite2006,

i have had several threesomes with two girls. one was blond and the other was a red head. in one that i did in april the damage was 400 euro for 30 minutes / half a hour for me. the services purported were:

half hour: 50 euro each (i did not need to ask, i knew this)

two girls sucking my penis at the same time - one on my balls and the other on my shaft. the girls said this in the room and if i did not pay then it would be one girl kiss and licking my nipples and only one sucking my penis but they would alternate doing this. the extra 50 euro was for them to suck at the same time. i did not ask for lesbian show and the girls did not offer. i think the girls thought this is what lesbian show means. 50 euro each.

come in mouth finish: i came in the blonds mouth only since i liked her better but when i came to pay i thought it curlish to pay only one the cim extra so i gave both girls 50 euro for this. i also was not sure what the protocol was for this as both had sucked my cock.

also since i was in a good mood and i wanted to see these girls again and the come the blow job to come in mouth finish was one of the best i have had i gave each girl a further 50 euro bonus.

so all up each girl got 200 euro making a total for 400 euro for half hour.

the girls did give me my full 30 minutes and gave me some nice after coming relax with a front side two girl massage.

i think it was a lot of money but on subsequent returns i have gotten some excellent service from the blond on a single basis. i love fucking her in her ass but it costs 100 euro extra on top of the room time which is always minimum one hour and often is 1.5 hours or 2 hours in the room.

the next time i did the blond and the red head together i did not do it so extravagantly. for half hour with owo to completion where this time the red head got the sperm i gave the red head 100 euro and the blond 50 euro for a total of 150 euro. the red head did all the ball licking and shaft sucking whereas the blond only kissed me and licked my nipples. much cheaper than 400 euro last time but less action.

[Checkers1]

Sounds good, what time are you going to go. Do you live in the area?

I answered your questions in the travel announcement thread. Take a look.

[Richie 22]

I have only visited once on a Sunday. Planning another visit in July possibly a Wednesday night. is this a bussy night, I see that it is sexy dress night does this change the ambience?

[Akibono]

[QUOTE=Weyfarere]Sybarite2006,

I have had several threesomes with two girls. One was blond and the other was a red head. In one that I did in April the damage was 400 euro for 30 minutes / half a hour for me. The services purported were:

Half hour: 50 euro each (I did not need to ask, I knew this)

Two girls sucking my penis at the same time - one on my balls and the other on my shaft. The girls said this in the room and if I did not pay then it would be one girl kiss and licking my nipples and only one sucking my penis but they would alternate doing this. The extra 50 euro was for them to suck at the same time. I did not ask for lesbian show and the girls did not offer. I think the girls thought this is what Lesbian show means. 50 euro each.

Come in mouth finish: I came in the blonds mouth only since I liked her better but when I came to pay I thought it curlish to pay only one the CIM extra so I gave both girls 50 euro for this. I also was not sure what the protocol was for this as both had sucked my cock.

Also since I was in a good mood and I wanted to see these girls again and the come the blow job to come in mouth finish was one of the best I have had I gave each girl a further 50 euro bonus.

So all up each girl got 200 euro making a total for 400 euro for half hour.

The girls did give me my full 30 minutes and gave me some nice after coming relax with a front side two girl massage.

I think it was a lot of money but on subsequent returns I have gotten some excellent service from the blond on a single basis. I love fucking her in her ass but it costs 100 euro extra on top of the room time which is always minimum one hour and often is 1.5 hours or 2 hours in the room.

The next time I did the blond and the red head together I did not do it so extravagantly. For half hour with owo to completion where this time the red head got the sperm I gave the red head 100 euro and the blond 50 euro for a total of 150 euro. The red head did all the ball licking and shaft sucking whereas the blond only kissed me and licked my nipples. Much cheaper than 400 euro last time but less action.[/QUOTEd d]


Not only did you overpay, you violated the cardinal rule of not tipping. That is why the girls have the attitude of 100E for 30 minutes of mediocre service. On my last trip I was very disappointed with the attitudes of the girls. Most wanted you to commit within a minute of talking and got really pissed if you did not. Then service was very restictive. I actually left one girl in the room when she refused to let me use my own condoms. We had not even started and I could tell by her attitude that it would have been a lousy session.

I got really tired of girls attaching you in the kino. In fact, I had to roughly push one girl off after she and her friend jumped on top of me. As a customer, I expect to be treated with integrity and respect--not with the constant question of why when I did not do and they liked. In fact, I dressed down a Russsian girl after a shortened session, and she appolgized after I paid her. There is a reason you don't find many older Germans at this club. They don't tolerate this and go to other clubs. The majority of people at this club are tourists who don't know any better.

[Mind Snatcher]

I resisted the temptation to visit Oase twice in a row and decided to chance my luck at the Palace. I was staying in a hotel (near Frankfurt station) called Monopol which can be recommended as they obligingly leave two beers in the minibar - which is free in that establishment, as are soft drinks and cakes throughout the day. Palace charges 75 euros (unless you arrive before 4pm and stay for less than two hours, in which case you get 20 euros back - anyone tried this??). I was dismayed to see that the restaurant area is now separated off from the playground, as part of the fun for me is feeding my gullet and eyes at the same time. Bad move, Palace. Rather disappointing session with an Italian girl (Lucrezia or Letizia); we started off in the kino and there was this film running with a girl getting a facial, and Lucrezia or whatever her name was must be a bit squeamish because she kept going ugh, ugh I hate having to watch that sort of thing. Otherwise she was quite affectionate and probably just a bit old-fashioned in her views but then should she be working in this kind of place?? Better luck with my second lady, Romy from Romania, a drop-down gorgeous very young-looking student type of around 20 years from Romania. Spent a full hour with her and it was very good. She has all I need: good conversation, a fabulous body (though not for big bosom fans), and a positive attitude. Came out feeling refreshed but will probably go back to Oase on my next visit.

[Hessen Bub]

(unless you arrive before 4pm and stay for less than two hours, in which case you get 20 euros back - anyone tried this??).

They call it "Business Tarif" and you get a 25 EUR refund.


I was dismayed to see that the restaurant area is now separated off from the playground, as part of the fun for me is feeding my gullet and eyes at the same time. Bad move, Palace.

You can still take your food outside and eat at the tables in the main area. Just did it. And I do like the new restaurant.

HB

[Kingbilly]

Hi everyone,

Im heading to frankfurt soon and am thinking of visiting this place.

I presume 50Euro is for half hour till you cum? Do all the men walk around naked? I was reading the Oase website and it states you have to be naked? Is this the same at the palace?

Thanks,

Bill

[Ak233]

My Germany trip is rapidly approaching. I am not an FKK newbie, but have never been to Palace, mostly out of concern for shark-like behavior. In any event, I am interested in experiencing a new place, and just have a few questions so I am best prepared. I have read most of the posts for this year and have a sense of the (high optical) quality available.

I understand that I have to clarify/negotiate the services before the session. I generally prefer 30 minute sessions, but am not against one hour if I am blown away, usually extended during the session when I feel the chemistry is good.

I love to kiss. How likely are Palace girls going to DFK in a 30 minute session?

I love DATY. This seems to be pretty standard as is BBBJ.

I enjoy rimming the girls. Have not read much in the forum about this service. At all other FKK, girls accept rimming and generally enjoy, all included in standard service. Do you think I will have a problem with this (ie girl trying to upsell this service)?

In my other FKK experiences, all activities (excluding intercourse) performed in the kino is "off the clock. " Does this also hold for Palace? Nice to get to know the girl a bit for an extra ten minutes or so, then get to the 30 minute room for the standard charge.

My trip reports to follow on my return.

[Shark16]

Well, this topic has been discussed numerous times, but I guess it is more than a year since last time, so maybe I am excused to repeat myself. BTW, have you tried typing "kissing", "standard service" or "rimming" in the fine search engine called "Search This Thread" top right on this page?


I understand that I have to clarify/negotiate the services before the session. I generally prefer 30 minute sessions, but am not against one hour if I am blown away, usually extended during the session when I feel the chemistry is good?
Glad you are aware that you have to clarify services before the session. This is major point in Palace as guys will eperience the waters a bit sharkier than elsewhere, simply because girls have permission to charge extra for services that is normally considered standard service at other FKK's.

Therefore, Palace is all about selection, where service will vary very much from girl to girl.

IME many Palace girls will refuse to show their best game in 30 mnts and ask for extras. If you sense this, ditch her politely and move on, as the outcome is likely to be disappointing. Or, if you sense a good session, tell her that you may extend to one hour if the first half hour includes lots of DFK, DATY and other preferred services.


I love to kiss. How likely are Palace girls going to DFK in a 30 minute session?.
IME less likely than in other clubs. Some girls will provide this service outside the room, but will stop as soon as the door is closed or try upselling DFK as an extra service (which IMO is bs). Others will not show in public that they kiss, but will provide excellent DFK in the room. If this is important to you, then it must be clarified on beforehand (interview, observations at the lockers or in the kino, reading reports in this thread, ...).

Do not forget that plenty of girls at Palace will provide DFK as a standard service without extra cost (inluding the stunners), and the challenge is simply to find them.


I love DATY. This seems to be pretty standard as is BBBJ.
I have never been refused or paid any extra for this service in Palace or in any other FKK.


I enjoy rimming the girls. Have not read much in the forum about this service. At all other FKK, girls accept rimming and generally enjoy, all included in standard service. Do you think I will have a problem with this (ie girl trying to upsell this service)?.
Not my cup of tea, but my guess is that since Palace is known to have more sharks who will try upselling for any kind of service which is normally accepted as a standard in other FKKs, it will be slightly more challenging. But far from impossible.


In my other FKK experiences, all activities (excluding intercourse) performed in the kino is "off the clock. " Does this also hold for Palace? Nice to get to know the girl a bit for an extra ten minutes or so, then get to the 30 minute room for the standard charge..
IME the clock technically starts when her mouth is around your dick - irrespective of where it happens. If kino or couch time should be considered free time is entirely up to the girl. As for all services in Palace, it is my experience that a service as free Kino time varies more from girl to girl here than in other FKK's.


My trip reports to follow on my return.
Thanks! We look forward to reading your report.

[Wever]

Originally Posted by Ak233
I love to kiss. How likely are Palace girls going to DFK in a 30 minute session?.

IME less likely than in other clubs. Some girls will provide this service outside the room, but will stop as soon as the door is closed or try upselling DFK as an extra service (which IMO is bs). Others will not show in public that they kiss, but will provide excellent DFK in the room. If this is important to you, then it must be clarified on beforehand (interview, observations at the lockers or in the kino, reading reports in this thread, ...).

I also have had the opposite. The girl (Polish, tall, blond 20 years old student, Name??) refused to kiss at the bar even after talking half an hour. Still very nice talk and I decided to go to the room with here. And in the room she started to kiss passionate.


Originally Posted by Ak233
I love DATY. This seems to be pretty standard as is BBBJ.

Never had a problem with a DATY in the Palace

[Angus Magee]

I enjoy rimming the girls. Have not read much in the forum about this service. At all other FKK, girls accept rimming and generally enjoy, all included in standard service. Do you think I will have a problem with this (ie girl trying to upsell this service)?

While I can not speak for what is accepted at Palace I can say that never in my mongering career have I ever been charged for this service. That is never been charged for giving a rim job to the appropriate young female posterior. Receiving one is a different story and not many girls will do it even when compensated.

In my experience either a girl goes for it or she doesn't. Many girls have a thing about their anus and would prefer it not be touched-or licked. But for a girl who likes it you are limited only by your own sense of decorum.

And for me it would be a real mood killer to ask, pre session, for permission to bury my snout in a girl's crack. So my strategy is always to give really, really good oral and then, if all goes well and is smelling (more or less) sweet, head up on around the bend for a test lick. Paying particular attention to the perineum ('taint) does not hurt.

But I am sure that you now all this. Just saying that giving an FKK girl a rimming is never guaranteed no matter which club you are in. I think you just have to select with fore thought and hope for the best.

[Titus81]

I'll be in Frankfurt in two weeks and will hit one of these two FKKs. I've only been to Oase in the past. Twice in 2006 and once in 2008. All three times were great, though in '08 I could tell that things were not as great as they had once been.

So now I'm torn! After reading recent reports here, it sounds like Palace is the better option, BUT. I'm concerned about what sounds like a lot more upselling for services that are included for 50e at Oase. Should I be concerned? I do want the better experience and don't mind the extra travel time to get to Oase. By the same token, I'd love to try some place new, but not if I'm going to have to pay more. Please give me some guidance!

Thanks!

[Sebastiane]

i went to palace in the early afternoon and saw saskia. we went for a session and she told me that someone else had told her that i'd written a report about her on isg! she didn't seem to mind but was a bit surprised. i wish though that people wouldn't go and tell the girls every little detail! she realised it was me who'd written the report because of the "wife" comment! our session was good but i wasn't able to perform this time for some reason! finished with a jerk off into her mouth. 100. said i'd for round 2 later.

the second session was with a girl called chiara. german, tall, leggy blonde, lithe. a 9. very attractive and nice personality but apart from suck and fuck everything else was an extra for her! including kissing and even that was restricted to mouth kissing. if i wanted to kiss her body, extra. if she was to kiss my body, extra. ass licking? extra. muschi eating? extra! in her favour she was upfront about it in the room but it killed the passion for me so i called it quits after half an hour without coming close to coming and not being hard either. 100 euro. 9 body. 8 face. personality 8. performance. 5

i was tired and watched portugal [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) north korea 7-0. then i spotted a really hot girl, petite, dark haired, mediterranean looking, lithe body, face 9, body 9. bella from hamburg. a spanish girl born and bred in hamburg she said. great personality. really friendly. asked if she kissed. she said yes. asked about dfk she said yes and also said yes to 69 and analingus. so off to the room.

we had a magnificent session. this girl is a real find. we were in the room for just over an hour and i swear most of that hour was spent fucking. the perspiration was pouring off me by the end and she was soaking too. i began by eating her out for ages till she was quivering. then we switched to 69 and it was great. she is arguably the most passionate kisser ever. real gfe.

then she mounted me and we fucked in a variety of positions. then we switched to 69 and i also tongue fucked her asshole. it was great. then we did loads for dfk. then i got on top and fucked her in a variety of positions. her pussy was making squelching noises by now. she fucks like a champion and is so hot. i finally came streams of cum in her mouth and all over her face. wow! we chatted and cuddled afterwards. the best session of the day and one of the best session ever. performance: 10. cost: 200. she was worth it. can you believe she said to me pay me what you think is fair and didn't mention prices once since i told her i was an oldie at fkk. amazing find. bella from spain.

said goodbye to saskia at her den and told her i was unable to do a second session. kissed her goodbye and showered and left.

[Jake993]

A few Fridays ago I breezed through Frankfurt and found myself with a few hours to kill between flights so I hopped a train into the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof, and caught a cab to Palace FKK. It was almost 2:00 PM when I arrived and I had a 5:40 PM flight so it was really touch and go trying to decide if I had enough time to get my 75 Euros worth. Needless to say it was a quick visit but I did manage to visit with two girls in the little more than 2 hours I was there.

The first time I was at Palace, it was a Monday morning was very slow. I was sitting on the banquet in the back room reading the paper when a Ukrainian girl introduced herself, sat down and started sucking my dick. I found it a bit odd that she would do that our in a rather public space but decided that since I was almost the only guest, it did not make much difference. Still, before things got past the point of no return, we went off to a room and got down to business.

On this visit, being Friday afternoon it was a little busier but hardly anything you could call crowded. I popped my head into the Kino between sessions and noticed a few girls with their heads buried in guys laps supposedly engaged in BBBJ while the guys watched porn on the big screen. So my question has to do about protocol for sex in public spaces at Palace. Since both times I have been there have been relatively slow with very few guests, I am not sure what is acceptable in terms of what and where.

It is commonplace for girls to give guys a full BJ with CIM on the Kino? And for if so, what do the girls charge for a BJ in the kino? Or was I witnessing something else? Maybe CBJ or just a warm up session before going to a room?

Can someone shed some like on this issue for me? I am planning to be passing through Frankfurt again soon and am going to plan on staying over a night so that I can spend some quality time there instead of just a quick visit between flights.

Thanks

[Ak233]

Thanks for the information.

[Basketcase]

Not only did you overpay, you violated the cardinal rule of not tipping. That is why the girls have the attitude of 100E for 30 minutes of mediocre service. On my last trip I was very disappointed with the attitudes of the girls. Most wanted you to commit within a minute of talking and got really pissed if you did not. Then service was very restictive. I actually left one girl in the room when she refused to let me use my own condoms. We had not even started and I could tell by her attitude that it would have been a lousy session.

I got really tired of girls attaching you in the kino. In fact, I had to roughly push one girl off after she and her friend jumped on top of me. As a customer, I expect to be treated with integrity and respect--not with the constant question of why when I did not do and they liked. In fact, I dressed down a Russsian girl after a shortened session, and she appolgized after I paid her. There is a reason you don't find many older Germans at this club. They don't tolerate this and go to other clubs. The majority of people at this club are tourists who don't know any better.
What you say is also possible at World and Oase, Das 5 Element or Sharks in Hesse. It is not the club Direction that makes these things happen. It is the girls.

I too did find that World girls, Oase girls, Golden Time girls, Villa Vertigo girls, Living Room girls, etc... to be very disappointing with their attitudes. As you say most wanted you to commit within a minute of talking and got really annoyed if you did not go to the room with them. The service can be restictive as a result. I did not find this at Palace for some reason. YMMV.

The blond MILF Lilia (Ukraine) at Golden Time last week did ask one of my running mates for a tip after a standard half hour service. This is the Lilia that can be found working at World as well and beloved of a number of other senior ISG members that are known. My running mate did not give her a tip and she left with a "thank you" after giving the running mate a kiss. The point here is that some men will give a tip if asked and especially if the session was good and the nice afterglow effect is in play.

The big boobed blond Nadia (Germany) at Golden Time did also ask a well known, established and senior visitor to Golden Time for a tip as well after providing an excellent one hour service where she was given 75 euro in payment. Nadia did say she gave him lots of loving kissing, cuddles and fondling for 20 minutes when he finished at 40 minutes. The senior visitor just handed over 75 euro and said nothing. Nadia did say she will not session with him ever again since he was, "a shit".

Another woman renown for good service at Oase asks to make extras since she knows she provides a good service that men come back for. This is not the same as asking for tips but it is akin as good for it Akibono.

Like you say you also do not find many older German girls in these clubs so what you say goes for these other clubs too as well as Palace. I think you find the older German girls in the smaller clubs in NRW and Bernds. These clubs like Jackyo and Marlow says are more service and relationship orientated than the big fuck factories like Oase, Palace and World.

Men committing to a session within moments of contact is normal from what I see. Many men just need to chat to get the preliminary introductions out of the way and then it is off you go. Some people can make decisions. You do hear the girls say that the club is for sex and not for something more like love. I think even Sybarite2006 has had that comment in another way per one of his reports.

I do not think the woman not letting you use your own condoms is a cardinal offence to break off a session that you committed to. A worker has a right to use the tools (e.g. condoms, gel) that she feels safe with and knows. You have to respect them for that and treat them with integrity in return. She is an independent contractor and independent contractors can use their own tools. It is up the woman. You did not like it so you chose to cancel the session when in the room in a dramatic way. So all okay if there are no hard feelings resulting.

[Mind Snatcher]

It was almost 2:00 PM when I arrived and I had a 5:40 PM flight so it was really touch and go trying to decide if I had enough time to get my 75 Euros worth. … I noticed a few girls with their heads buried in guys laps supposedly engaged in BBBJ while the guys watched porn on the big screen. So my question has to do about protocol for sex in public spaces at Palace. Since both times I have been there have been relatively slow with very few guests, I am not sure what is acceptable in terms of what and where.

It is commonplace for girls to give guys a full BJ with CIM on the Kino? And for if so, what do the girls charge for a BJ in the kino? Or was I witnessing something else? Maybe CBJ or just a warm up session before going to a room?



If you arrived at 2.00pm and left at 4.00pm you should have received a refund of 25 euros (Business Tariff as pointed out by Hessen Bub below). Interesting to note that (apparently) this does not always happen.

As to your question, it is not unknown for ladies to start BJing in public places, as this marks the start of paid-for time. When normally happens is that the session continues and climaxes in a room, unless you can’t hold back and climax there and then, which is not actually verboten but usually ends the session somewhat prematurely, as many girls assume your time is up as soon as you cum. Having said that, it’s up to you to strike a deal with the girl of your choice. Various comments on this site show that all manner of arrangements are possible.

[Mind Snatcher]

Sybarite2006,

I have had several threesomes with two girls … So all up each girl got 200 euro making a total for 400 euro for half hour. The girls did give me my full 30 minutes and gave me some nice after coming relax with a front side two girl massage. I think it was a lot of money but …

Basketcase, what have you done? The euro may be losing its value quite rapidly at the moment, but to pay 200€ to each lady for 30 minutes is not only excessive per se, but almost certain to precipitate a further decline in the purchasing power of the single currency in establishments such as this.

[Toscana]

Basketcase, what have you done?Yes, I wondered this as well when he paid EUR 300 at World recently for two hours with CIM finish (no one commented at the time). ;-)

I think all these visits and ever more complicated sessions with the girls have finally destroyed his session calculator. A warning for us all. :-) :-)

[Jake993]

If you arrived at 2.00pm and left at 4.00pm you should have received a refund of 25 euros (Business Tariff as pointed out by Hessen Bub below). Interesting to note that (apparently) this does not always happen.
Man, I should have been paying attention. The receptionist was saying something as I was leaving. My phone rang as I was handing back my keys and I walked to the door as it was a bit noisy and could not hear the person on the phone. The taxi pulled up and I just hopped in and went. Silly me. Will pay attention next time.

[Hessen Bub]

You should be asked when entering if you want the Business Time tariff a they have to note the time on your wristband.

HB

[Jake993]

You should be asked when entering if you want the Business Time tariff a they have to note the time on your wristband.

HBHmm good to know. I was asked no such thing. Will make a point of asking next time.

[Basketcase]

Yes, I wondered this as well when he paid EUR 300 at World recently for two hours with CIM finish (no one commented at the time). ;-)

I think all these visits and ever more complicated sessions with the girls have finally destroyed his session calculator. A warning for us all. :-) :-)
One time recently I also did do these sessions in one day:

1. 250 euro for 1.5 hours room time and anal sex to completion.

2. 350 euro for 2 hours room time and anal sex for my first come and then CIM for my second come. I was allowed an extra half hour relax time gratis actually making it 2.5 hours. I gave a small tip at the end as well.

3. 150 euro for 1.5 hours room time and COB finish

The day before I did:

1. 250 euro for 1.5 hours room time and anal sex to completion.

2. 150 euro for 50 minutes Kino and room time and CIM finish. I did give a small tip at the end too.

3. 100 euro for 45 minutes of normal owo and vaginal sex finish.

As indicated by Hessen Bub and mentioned by Jim there is seems to be a fair bit more anal sex being offered and being taken advantage of. Maybe it relates to the girls' Direction or that the girls do want to make money in a short amount of time. This is just my experience. You decide what you think.

[DFWdude]

A few Fridays ago I breezed through Frankfurt and found myself with a few hours to kill between flights so I hopped a train into the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof, and caught a cab to Palace FKK. It was almost 2:00 PM when I arrived and I had a 5:40 PM flight so it was really touch and go trying to decide if I had enough time to get my 75 Euros worth. Needless to say it was a quick visit but I did manage to visit with two girls in the little more than 2 hours I was there.

The first time I was at Palace, it was a Monday morning was very slow. I was sitting on the banquet in the back room reading the paper when a Ukrainian girl introduced herself, sat down and started sucking my dick. I found it a bit odd that she would do that our in a rather public space but decided that since I was almost the only guest, it did not make much difference. Still, before things got past the point of no return, we went off to a room and got down to business.

On this visit, being Friday afternoon it was a little busier but hardly anything you could call crowded. I popped my head into the Kino between sessions and noticed a few girls with their heads buried in guys laps supposedly engaged in BBBJ while the guys watched porn on the big screen. So my question has to do about protocol for sex in public spaces at Palace. Since both times I have been there have been relatively slow with very few guests, I am not sure what is acceptable in terms of what and where.

It is commonplace for girls to give guys a full BJ with CIM on the Kino? And for if so, what do the girls charge for a BJ in the kino? Or was I witnessing something else? Maybe CBJ or just a warm up session before going to a room?

Can someone shed some like on this issue for me? I am planning to be passing through Frankfurt again soon and am going to plan on staying over a night so that I can spend some quality time there instead of just a quick visit between flights.

Thanks

Actually it is quite commons, for a BBBJ to take place in the kino or other public areas. Not as common but also the full service deed can take place in the kino or public. The first being more common...

That said the palace has launched a new web site, google it and check it out!

[Hessen Bub]

I've BBBJ, DATY and sex in the cinema, on one of the swings (before they build the smoker's asylum) and in the relax area in front of the massage. Also had a nice BBBJ on the stairs leading to the main bar.

You can fuck where you want to - in the last years girls have gotten more and more averse to public action. Same for the guys. Starts with wearing robes instead of towels.

HB

[Diefrankfurter]

ard either. 100 euro. 9 body. 8 face. personality 8. performance. 5

i was tired and watched portugal [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) north korea 7-0. then i spotted a really hot girl, petite, dark haired, mediterranean looking, lithe body, face 9, body 9. bella from hamburg. a spanish girl born and bred in hamburg she said. great personality. really friendly. asked if she kissed. she said yes. asked about dfk she said yes and also said yes to 69 and analingus. so off to the room.

we had a magnificent session. this girl is a real find. we were in the room for just over an hour and i swear most of that hour was spent fucking. the perspiration was pouring off me by the end and she was soaking too. i began by eating her out for ages till she was quivering. then we switched to 69 and it was great. she is arguably the most passionate kisser ever. real gfe.

then she mounted me and we fucked in a variety of positions. then we switched to 69 and i also tongue fucked her asshole. it was great. then we did loads for dfk. then i got on top and fucked her in a variety of positions. her pussy was making squelching noises by now. she fucks like a champion and is so hot. i finally came streams of cum in her mouth and all over her face. wow! we chatted and cuddled afterwards. the best session of the day and one of the best session ever. performance: 10. cost: 200. she was worth it. can you believe she said to me pay me what you think is fair and didn't mention prices once since i told her i was an oldie at fkk. amazing find. bella from spain.

said goodbye to saskia at her den and told her i was unable to do a second session. kissed her goodbye and showered and left.i too went with bella. she is awesome. so friendly. she made me feel great and i felt like i was doing my girlfriend. the girls in palace are all sharks. i went with one romanian girl and she proceeded to upsell me on everything. got very tired of it and walked out of the room.

[Suller Joe]

Please stop the whining. Just pay up or go somewhere else. The girl is about to have sex with you FCOL. She should be entitled to decide on any price or upsell. Charging different customers differently is just fine. If I was a WG I'd charge min €300/30 minutes for a fat middleaged man with bad breath and €60/30 minutes for the opposite. Could go to a factor of 10.

Business as usual.

[Angus Magee]

That said the palace has launched a new web site, google it and check it out!


My bookmark link is dead and the new one I googled says under construction. I wait with baited breath. Hope they do not make it too "flash"y.

AM

[Toscana]

Please stop the whining. Just pay up or go somewhere else. The girl is about to have sex with you FCOL. She should be entitled to decide on any price or upsell. Charging different customers differently is just fine. If I was a WG I'd charge min €300/30 minutes for a fat middleaged man with bad breath and €60/30 minutes for the opposite. Could go to a factor of 10.

Business as usual.I suggest you have that translated, post it on a German site and wait for the explosion........ LOL

[GandJim]

Please stop the whining. Just pay up or go somewhere else. The girl is about to have sex with you FCOL. She should be entitled to decide on any price or upsell. Charging different customers differently is just fine. If I was a WG I'd charge min €300/30 minutes for a fat middleaged man with bad breath and €60/30 minutes for the opposite. Could go to a factor of 10.

Business as usual.I suggest you have that translated, post it on a German site and wait for the explosion........ LOL
LOL Tosc :D

I guess that Joe will also find it normal that a fixed-price buffet-restaurant will charge a fat man more than a slim one, or a taxi will charge based on number (and weight) of persons getting into the cab, etc....

To his defence, it seems that Joe is not a regular of FKKs (many posts on Thailand) and, like many visitors to Germany, just want to import his (bad) habits rather than having the courtesy to inquire about and follow the local rules (by the way, how do you translate "fixed price" in Thai?).

And there is something partially true in what he says :"Please stop the whining. Just pay up or go somewhere else". Except that he should say this to the girl instead: "Please stop the whining. Just charge the set price or go work somewhere else" (in Thailand maybe?) ;).

Jim

[Dandriller]

My bookmark link is dead and the new one I googled says under construction. I wait with baited breath. Hope they do not make it too "flash"y.

AMThe web address is the same and has been up for a while now.

http://www.fkk-palace.de

[Angus Magee]

The web address is the same and has been up for a while now.

http://www.fkk-palace.de

Must have been down for a while yesterday. It works now.

Thanks

AM

[Jake Randall]

I have a couple of quick questions. I'm going to Frankfurt in July for a vacation and the whole FKK scene is very interesting. I've never tried it, but I plan on it. So...

I understand that The Palace is fairly easy to get to from Frankfurt, what are some more clubs that are worth checking out that are easy to get to for someone that will not have a rented car?

Does Tha Palace or any other clubs take credit cards?

Thanks a bunch everyone.

JaasI plan on visiting an FKK for the first time too and Palace was my first choice. I will be visiting this sometime this month.

I am from Bangladesh and was wondering if there is any discrimination towards colored people.

[Hessen Bub]

Charging different customers differently is just fine. If I was a WG I'd charge min €300/30 minutes for a fat middleaged man with bad breath and €60/30 minutes for the opposite. .

You can do whatever you want. Become a freelancer, escort girl or whatever, but DO NOT work at a FKK Club.

HB

[Basketcase]

I plan on visiting an FKK for the first time too and Palace was my first choice. I will be visiting this sometime this month.

I am from Bangladesh and was wondering if there is any discrimination towards colored people.
No, Palace of all FKKs does not discriminate against non Germans.

[Vito Corleone]

I plan on visiting an FKK for the first time too and Palace was my first choice. I will be visiting this sometime this month.

I am from Bangladesh and was wondering if there is any discrimination towards colored people.No problems with entry, but some of the babes might refuse to session with you. Don't let it bother you. Just move on to the next girl. Plenty of fish (& some sharks) in the sea.

[Chico Charlie 1]

To my reply against Jake's question

Yes, while it is not shown openly by the management, there is a racial discriminination by the girls of Palace who covertly tell us they are not interested in any other than Whites. I have faced this reply personally by two of them.

Thats why I find Oase and World much better.

My two cents

Charlie

[West By Sun]

To my reply against Jake's question

Yes, while it is not shown openly by the management, there is a racial discriminination by the girls of Palace who covertly tell us they are not interested in any other than Whites. I have faced this reply personally by two of them.

Thats why I find Oase and World much better.

My two cents

Charlie

Easy. The stated principle is that forced prostitution under control does not exist in FKKs. So it is all based on personal chemistry. It must not be really discrimination matter. Plus, you can positively think that it is rather good to know previously which girl is not willing to serve you, which girl has potentiality to give you GFE. Ya, I love Oase too, however, I have seen two polish girls who did not hide negative attitude against me. Sad and hurtful. But ok, it would occur to everyone.

WBS

[Basketcase]

To my reply against Jake's question

Yes, while it is not shown openly by the management, there is a racial discriminination by the girls of Palace who covertly tell us they are not interested in any other than Whites. I have faced this reply personally by two of them.

Thats why I find Oase and World much better.

My two cents

Charlie
I cannot say I have experienced this in any of my Palace visits. The clientele at Palace is frequently far more international than World or Oase due to its central location and capacity to cater to the Messe / Trade fair attendees. If anything I find that there are more girls less understanding of non Germans or non whites for that matter at World and Oase since for the newer girls having come from Eastern Europe may have not much experience from people not ethnically originating from the European region.

Some girls specialise in Asians. For example, gorgeous super blond Lina (Czech) homes in on Asian men at Palace specifically from what I see. She ploughs through them like a hot knife through butter. There was one time on a visit where I saw her work her way through a line of 5 Asian men at the tables that were grouped together. She went through each asking for a session until she got a bite, finishing that man and coming back for the others.

If the girls are only interested in whites only then these girls are seriously excluding a decent proportion of Palace clientele which happens to be non white who are there specifically to fuck and spend money. These guys will have come a long way invariably and are there for a purpose so they know what they are there for.

Also Palace like the other clubs Oase and World has a fair proportion of ethnic middle eastern customers whether they be locals or visitors. I tend to see middle eastern customers more so in the later evenings.

[Basketcase]

It is commonplace for girls to give guys a full BJ with CIM on the Kino? And for if so, what do the girls charge for a BJ in the kino? Or was I witnessing something else? Maybe CBJ or just a warm up session before going to a room?
At Palace I have been blown in the Kino and have fucked in the Kino as well. Most of the girls will suck and fuck you in the Kino no problem. Maybe less girls will suck and fuck in the more public areas. The only girl that comes to mind as not a Kino sucker and fucker generally is cute big boobed blond Angelina (Czech) who I call my little minx.

Man, I have been blown by and fucked blond Gina (Czech) in the Kino while a running mate of mine was on the other side of the communal mattress area getting his shaft and balls sucked by some Russian blond. I have fucked a brunette Hungarian girl in the kino relatively memorably for an audience of Italiani. I cannot remember her name straight off but I have written a trip report so if you search this thread you will see the sotry come up.

There is no extra charge for public sex. A session is a session in a public area like the bar, the kino or the relax area or in the private areas like the room.

All the blowjobs have been without condom.

My favourite place to fuck publically is the Oase kino or in the covered mattresses in the Oase garden or the crow's nest at Oase that is on the small hill. I have been blown without a condom in that Oase kino at least once on every visit I make to Oase. I do not fuck as much in the Oase kino but if I do I like to move to the front oval mattresses rather than fuck on the leather couches as its more comfortable.

You do sometimes get an audience and it is a little rowdy. Mainly it is the Italiani that are the distracting observers.

I still have fond memories of romping with 3 Romanian girls in the Oase kino for an audience of 20 Italian boys who were camped out in the Kino taking the entire place up. She should have heard the cheer when I was going to do anal sex with one of the girls. These boys were such that all the kino blowjobs were moving to the relax area of Oase. Maggie (bu), Rebecca (bu), Judith (hu), Hanna (cz) were all taking their clients to the relax area to suck them off since there was no room in the kino as the Italiani legions were hogging the kino.

[Stevie69]

In my experience, public sex is fairly common. Actually, there is some added excitement to it. I have been blown in the main room quite openly and in the Kino. most girls blow you just to persuade you to go to a room, but some use a public BJ as advertisement for others to see how good she really is. Once I got into some sex at the Kino, just one metre from some other customers. It is weird! all normal societal rules do not exist there. At Oase you can have public sex outdoors, which also adds a new dimension.

[Ortos]

The only girl that comes to mind as not a Kino sucker and fucker generally is cute big boobed blond Angelina (Czech) who I call my little minx.

No, if memory serves you used to refer to her as your "dirty little minx..." But please don't tell me that you would even consider going with this somewhat-sharky-ultra-processing-doesn't-know-to-even-smile-distant-arrongant girl again, not after all the selection development you've earned during all these visits to FKKs! This girl was someone you start out with maybe, but you throw that choice overboard once you learn that there are many, many better options with whom to invest your Euro, right?




I have fucked a brunette Hungarian girl in the kino relatively memorably for an audience of Italiani. I cannot remember her name straight off but I have written a trip report so if you search this thread you will see the sotry come up.

Again, if memory serves, didn't you once write a report about this girl Ruby, petite dark-haired girl who does not normally provide great service and who may, in fact, be Romanian. not Hungarian?




I do not fuck as much in the Oase kino but if I do I like to move to the front oval mattresses rather than fuck on the leather couches as its more comfortable.

One of the problems with fucking on both the couches or the oval bed in Oase kino is the issue of cleanliness. Do you really think that, during the course of a busy night in Oase kino (or any FKK kino for that matter), the beds or couches are wiped clean and sterilised in betten men/girls fucking/sucking on them? At Oase, the experienced monger always takes refuge in the overwhelmingly clean and hygenic Zimmer, right? LOL

O

[Basketcase]

1. No, if memory serves you used to refer to her as your "dirty little minx..." But please don't tell me that you would even consider going with this somewhat-sharky-ultra-processing-doesn't-know-to-even-smile-distant-arrongant girl again, not after all the selection development you've earned during all these visits to FKKs! This girl was someone you start out with maybe, but you throw that choice overboard once you learn that there are many, many better options with whom to invest your Euro, right?

2. Again, if memory serves, didn't you once write a report about this girl Ruby, petite dark-haired girl who does not normally provide great service and who may, in fact, be Romanian. not Hungarian?

3. One of the problems with fucking on both the couches or the oval bed in Oase kino is the issue of cleanliness. Do you really think that, during the course of a busy night in Oase kino (or any FKK kino for that matter), the beds or couches are wiped clean and sterilised in between men/girls fucking/sucking on them? At Oase, the experienced monger always takes refuge in the overwhelmingly clean and hygenic Zimmer, right? LOL
Hallo Ortos,

1. Why, I do believe you are correct. I use to call blond Angelina (cz) my "dirty little minx" rather than my "little minx". She did like offering CIM and anal sex quite readily to her me and this was when I was first starting out in FKK and so I thought all my Christmas' had come having such a pretty girl offering all the nasty stuff. She was also quite a naughty little girl so I coined the phrase for her as "my dirty little minx". Very good that someone is keeping a track of my hookers that I have ploughed through. I hate to think how many girls I have done over the years.

I no longer go with Angelina now when I visit Palace. In fact, I dare say she would not want me back since I want services as standard that she would not deign to provide to a customer and prefer to charge as an extra or not perform at all. I guess I am spoiled by the GF6 providers that I have found amongst the other girls at Palace. Angelina I suspect is happy to work her way through the messe guests. She does a nice trade with the Asian customers from my observations as does blond Lina (cz) and blond Gina (cz).

2. Yes, that is right. Now that you mention it. Petite dark haired Ruby (hu) was the girl I had suck me and I fucked in the Kino. I did not finish since I got a bit of stage fright since I saw Italiani watching intently from the floor below the raised tiered mattress that we were fucking on. Ruby did not follow up by moving to a room - I guess since we had sucked and fucked already that she wanted more for continuing on and I also was "Kein Lust" or without desire anyway to throw more euro after bad if I remember right.

Ruby may indeed be a Romanian in disguise passing herself off as Hungarian. I do not know and it is a distinct possibility. I do not speak Hungarian nor Romanian apart from the few naughty words that Romanian hookers and Hungarian hookers have taught me for their amusement.

3. Yes, there is the issue of cleanliness when being sucked and fucking your hooker in the kino on the couch or on the oval beds at the front. We usually put down towels underneath us. I am quite sure in the course of a day or evening that I have never seen any Oase cleaner wipe down the couches or put a new bed spread on the oval beds. I have seen the cleaners pick up empty glasses and empty the bins in the kino but no cleaning up of spillages or human bodily emissions. Generally she has a towel and I have a towel as a minimum and these are laid down on the couch or on the oval bed before we proceed to give a performance.

Yes, the zimmers may be a tad cleaner than the kino for fucking but as you intimate it is only a relative when comparing between one and the other.

I have been encouraged of late to do my sessions in the Kino by fellow mongers and also by girls themselves not wanting to wait for a zimmer to become free when times are busy. So I have started to get more use to doing the deed in the kino and also taking in my stride an audience. It is okay if the audience is quiet and paying attention nonchalantly but if the audience is noisy, raucous and maybe even giving blow by blow commentary of the action then it is distracting and difficult to proceed. I try not to look out at the audience lest I get stage fright. I try to concentrate on my schwanz in a hooker's mouth or in her muschi or up her tight cute asshole.

Choas,

[Mahaba]

I have been reviewing the Palace forum to help decide if the place is worth a visit after a prolonged focus on other FKK's in the area. (I am having my car serviced and need to pass some time getting blown while the work is being done)

I noticed lots of reports describing prices between 100 - 300 euro "events".

Is anyone getting good service for 50 Euros anymore?

If the expectation of the girls is a minimum of 100 Euros, then I will stick with Oase, Bernds, etc.

By the way, I am aware of the nice facilities, good food, great variety, beautiful women, amazing oral skills, etc., I just do not want to feel like I am talking to a car salesmen when negotiating a blow job.

[Basketcase]

I have been reviewing the Palace forum to help decide if the place is worth a visit after a prolonged focus on other FKK's in the area. (I am having my car serviced and need to pass some time getting blown while the work is being done)

I noticed lots of reports describing prices between 100 - 300 euro "events".

Is anyone getting good service for 50 Euros anymore?

If the expectation of the girls is a minimum of 100 Euros, then I will stick with Oase, Bernds, etc.

By the way, I am aware of the nice facilities, good food, great variety, beautiful women, amazing oral skills, etc., I just do not want to feel like I am talking to a car salesmen when negotiating a blow job.
Mahaba,

I cannot think of a better place to be in Frankfurt than Palace to get blown if you need to wait while your car is being serviced. I expect the Red light district ("RLD") will be cheaper but if you have a lot of time to kill then a stay at Palace would fit in much nicer since in the RLD once the deed is done you out in the street again. To me that sort of spoils the nice vibe you can get having once come and then being unceremoniously returned to the hard concrete highways and by ways once you have come.

From my visits to Palace and these are recent visits there is good service to be had at the 50 euro mark. Do not let the bad reports put you off. Some guys that put down Palace have not been there in months or if not, even years ago.

You do have to be on your A game to make sure what is included and what is not in a session. Make a note of what is extra from the laminated pricing pictures found in the rooms at Palace. Also do some research on this forum on the good hookers that provide a service that you want and make a note of them for your visit. I know there are guys that go to Palace nearly exclusively like Sybarite2006 and Syzgies.

My recommendations would be Alexandra (ro), Saskia (de), Samantha (de), Lina (de) - not the Czech one and Mariella (ru). All these hookers to me are very beautiful and give excellent service at the 50 euro mark.

As a local you will find further more information on the scene from the German discussion sites which locals would contribute. I thank you for contributing here nonetheless.

Cheers,

[Basketcase]

I am sure your mentor and teacher, Radler/EL, would be quite chuffed by this! Boy, I wish he would post some of his great reports here again, they were often great gems of writing and packed with great info. I think he's taking a hiatus from this board ... maybe EL will once again grace these threads with his wit, wisdom and insights...I'm sure he would agree with much of what you say, BC.
Hi Ortos,

If anything it was you who was the mentor and teacher. I have been reading your reports on the German saunaclubs and FKKs since 2001. I learnt so much on logistics and what to expect from what you wrote all those years ago. I salute you.

Radler / Ekliges Lauren's techniques never gelled with the women that I wanted to fuck and I was prepared to pay for. His way was his way. We had totally opposite tastes in women. EL would go into a club like Golden Time and say he could fuck 90% to 95% of the women in the club and I would walk in and say I would only fuck 5 hookers out of a complement of say 70 to 80 girls. I guess I am just picky and so his learnings would not work for me. So I am not sure if what I write would generate his approval. I do not care really. It is what works for me that matters.

Further Radler / Ekliges Lauren and I do not travel together in Germany no more.

To further illustrate differences Ocean Bear 1 says I fuck hookers with horse like faces but I think he fucks hookers that look like they are skinny anorexic crack addicts.

I understand also that Radler / Ekliges Lauren will no longer be writing on this forum. I was prepared to do the same.

All I want to do is visit the clubs, fuck beautiful women enjoying myself and participate in discussing the clubs on this forum as discussing the clubs is the purpose of this group.

[Vito Corleone]

I am sure your mentor and teacher, Radler/EL, would be quite chuffed by this! Boy, I wish he would post some of his great reports here again, they were often great gems of writing and packed with great info. I think he's taking a hiatus from this board given the Vito and IPM rants and incidents a month or so ago --can't blame him, really... but now that those "thugs" seem to be more tightly controlled or "muzzled," mabe EL will once again grace these threads with his wit, wisdom and insights...I'm sure he would agree with much of what you say, BC.

OOrtos,

You need to know all the facts before you start thorwing jabs. Your pal EL/Radler was a major part of the problem, not just myself & IPM. He started the outing game last year & a couple of months ago. I tried to work it out with him privately, but he ignored me. He did what he had to do & I did what I had to do. IPM did what he thought he had to do.

I agree some of EL/Radler's reports were interesting, but if you are going to make comments about certain problems from the past you need to add El/Radler. I am not entirely convinced BC is innocent either in the "outing game", but to me it is all water under the bridge.

I have been quiet for the sake of peace on this forum. Everyone has an opinion on how the situation should have been handled. I agree with most of the feedback I received. If you want to make your comments about me, fine. I probably deserve it. You should also send some to EL/Radler as he was the one who started it both times.

Right now the oceans are calm. Once you start creating movement in water, then you start making waves. No need to turn these waves into a monster tsunami.

[West By Sun]

But please don't tell me that you would even consider going with this somewhat-sharky-ultra-processing-doesn't-know-to-even-smile-distant-arrongant girl again,



I have ever had more than 20 sessions with this sex doll. You are just misunderstanding capitalisme, Angelina spread angelic smiles under the condition you pay 10 euros for smile option. Some people say Angelina's pussy is really mediterranean scale, but they should know that sphincter option is available for 25 euros(every 2 minutes).

[Basketcase]

I have ever had more than 20 sessions with this sex doll. You are just misunderstanding capitalisme, Angelina spread angelic smiles under the condition you pay 10 euros for smile option. Some people say Angelina's pussy is really mediterranean scale, but they should know that sphincter option is available for 25 euros(every 2 minutes).
West By Sun,

So cool. The embrace of EEs of the concept of capitalism.

Angelina (cz) offers a smile option at 10€ a pop? Does that include smiling up at your whilst she sucks your schwanz? I like that when a girl does that as it makes you think she really enjoys swallowing and loving your dick like it was a lollipop.

I cannot recall now if Angelina's muschi is real loose but I do recall not coming in it very often so there must be something to learn there if the completion is not in pussy since there must be soemthing lacking.

So hang on. You say Angelina's pricing for her ass to be fucked is 25 euros for every 2 minutes as to 100 euro for the session. So if you finish in under 2 minutes it is 25 euro and if you happen to last 8 minutes of shagging her butthole it willl cost the standard 100 euro as an extra?

That is a novel pricing and yes capitalism indeed.

[Ortos]

... but to me it is all water under the bridge...

I have been quiet for the sake of peace on this forum.

Yes, Vito, you are absolutely right. YOU are the victim here, not anybody else. It's so unfair that a guy like you, who has been kind of a role model here, always being so friendly to everybody here and taking time to give newbies the staight story about the basic start-up info they need, should be treated in such a rough and unjust manner. It just kills me! I feel all your pain...

But if you really believe what you state above, that it is just water under the bridge, maybe you should take your own advice and just stay quiet for the sake of the forum that you so respect and love.

For my part, I made only a comment that I missed a certain poster's insights, and his absence seems to be due to certain events in the recent past that you helped author. These are not intended to be jabs or anything else. "Just stating the facts, mam..."

Please don't exxagerate what I said; please don't try to find something that isn't really there (or certainly not intended.) Lastly, and I say this as much to myself as to anybody else: Let's not take ourselves so seriously here, okay? It's just a fucking Internet forum about sex, right?

So let's get back to the reporting on Palace girls: It is SO much more interesting than the kind of shit-stirring that too often occupies these threads.

Enough said, let's drop this crap...

O

[Cozumel]

I have visited the Frankfurt area probably five to six time in the last three years. Each time, I visit the Palace, Oase, multiple times. This trip I also rented a car and went to World for the first time. I have probably seen 40 plus girls at the Palace, so I am not a newbie. But this time I really had some major problems, in fact two major incidents. One I took to the manager. In general, attitude of the girls has changed dramatically in the last few years. Don't get me wrong, there are some nice honest girls there, but the sheer number of sharks and a prevailing attitude that 50 Euros for half an hour oral and sex is not worth their time, has become common place. That was not my experience during my previous visits

If you are willing to stack up the extras to 200 Euros or more, you can have a very nice time. My first night there I broke out the cash, picked some nice girls, and did just that. Upon returning to the Palace one evening, after having a wonderful day at Oase, I was not interested in going all out, and just wanted to play with a girl for a half hour or so. Here was my experience:

Was sitting in the cinema room, tall black thin black haired Greek girl comes over snuggles up next to me, puts her hand under my towel and starts tugging on my cock. She starts the usual sales process, mostly with her tung in my ear and my first response was no thank you, I just want to rest a while. Now in past years that was pretty much enough to send a girl on her way. Not a chance. So, I nicely let her know again that I am not interested. She doesn't stop. At this point I just relax thinking she can do whatever she wants but I am not going with her. After a while she starts to chill out and what she is doing to my cock becomes more sensuous and rather nice. So we talk a little, she unwraps my towel, licks the tip of her finger and starts rubbing the tip of my fully erect cock. Her whole attitude changed and after about fifteen minutes of just playing, and talking I'm thinking maybe she would be a nice time. Big mistake!

We get to the room and in her broken English, the up selling starts hard. I am like no, I don't want all that, I just want a simple half hour. She types in the 50 Euro figure on her cell phone, shows me and says, that's what you want to pay? I say yes. She let out a big sigh and is clearly pissed! Not a real turn on. Then she starts in with one of the roughest almost all teeth blowjobs I have ever had. It was like she was pissed and wanted to bite it off. After about 30 seconds of that I just said, Stop. I don't want this. I get up off the bed and say, we are done. I will pay you your fifty Euros and that is that, goodbye! I really didn't want any drama, just wanted to get rid of her. It has been my experience that 1 out of 5 girls you see at an FKK will be a dud. They may be lousy in bed, not really into it or whatever, but they never tried to bite my dick off! And they usually are more than happy to work for the 50 Euros and I always tip well for good service.

So I am really pissed, sitting at the bar and this very sweet Hungarian blond I was with a few nights ago comes up to me. Of course she wants to play again and I tell her what I just went through. Then she tells me something very interesting. She says she always goes through all services and prices and exactly what the client wants before she starts for this very reason. She did this with me the other night. And I didn't like that because I know what the price structure is and I know what is extra. I like to just play and if I CIM it is extra and if we do anal it is extra. I don't like a program. Then she says she has a lot of regular clients who come to her at the Palace for that very reason. They don't want the hassle of dealing with all the scams from the other girls. I'm thinking, interesting – this girl is marketing her honesty and work ethic? What is going on in this place. I think just about everybody knows what the pricing is and if the girls don't think 50 euros with a tip for good service is worth a half hour of their time, why are they working at this club? The club sets the prices, not us or the girls.

The next night was even worse. Since I am staying at the hotel next door I go back thinking I will give the Palace one more try. This time I meet up with Anna Maria, a little Spanish lady with long black wavy hair, smoking body, and a set of bolt-ons. I was with her my first night. We did Anal, and as everyone should now, that is 150 euros extra, 200 Euros total for half an hour. Great time. This time I again just want a nice simple session. She gives great service kissing, I go down on her, ask her is she likes fingers in her pussy, she says yes. Whole session lasts about 45 minutes tops. I make some comment how I will give her 100 Euros, because it was over the 30 minute mark and I think to myself that I will tip her because the service was excellent. She says, "I think it is a lot more than that. " She wants 200 Euros! I'm like, for what? She says kissing is extra, pussy licking is extra, fingers in the pussy is extra. I tell her I have never payed extra for those services either girls to them or they don't. Always the ladies choice. The club does not list those as extra services, and that 200 Euros for 45 minutes of oral and sex is way over the top.

She is firm with her 200 Euros and finally I say, lets discuss it with the manager. She thinks for a second as says no, "I don't want to discuss it with the manager, I want you to give me 200 Euros. " I say, no way! Walk to the money locker and give her 100 Euros. Now she is really pissed and wants to go to the manager. I'm like, fine. She gives her pitch to the manager about how she told me the first time what all her extra services are and prices. Lets be clear that never happened. If she would have told me those services are extra I would not have spent time with her because I know they are not!

The manager didn't seem to be buying her argument as I explained to her that I have been here many times and never charged for those services. And, I had those services at Oase and World this week with absolutely no issue. At one point Anna Maria turns to me as says, "you know what, you are just a jerk. A real Jerk! The manager quickly scolds her. The manager suggests that the issue be resolved with me paying the girl 20 Euros, really a tip. I think that amount shows who's side the manager was on. At this point I am so pissed and I want to make the point that on my end, it is not about the money but the principle. I also wanted to make it clear to the manager that there are consequences for this kind of bullshit from the girls. I say, you know what, I am so pissed I will give you 50 Euros! Then I turn to the manager and say I will never set foot in your club again, and head for the showers. As I am walking away I hear the manager saying something to the girl in German like, what do you think you are doing! She didn't sound happy with her.

As I exit the shower, the manager is standing there waiting for me. "Can I talk to you please? " She apologizes to me and says those are not extra services and says extras are like Anal and CIM. I know that! She offers me a free entrance pass to the club to try and smooth things out. I tell her about what happened to me the night before. Then I gently let into her. I tell her that as a manager she has got some big problems to deal with out there on the floor. The girls do not know or respect the pricing scale and they think that fifty euros for half an hour is a waste of their time. And, the up-selling is absolutely ferocious! I tell her that this is the kind of stuff that gives her club a bad reputation. She honestly seemed concerned. Then told me, "we need to hear this information from customers about what is going on in the club. "

I don't know what she told Anna Maria, I hope she told her that she can not charge extra for those services. I think this is a management issue more than anything else. They are letting the girls run over club policy and things are out of control. The Palace is no longer a relaxing and fun experience. I had a fantastic time at Oase and World with no Bullshit this trip. I think we customers should vote with our feet and take our business elsewhere until the Palace management cleans this mess up. Would like to hear what you think.

[Cozumel]

The Sharks have really ruined the Palace

I have visited the Frankfurt area probably five to six time in the last three years. Each time, I visit the Palace, Oase, multiple times. This trip I also rented a car and went to World for the first time. I have probably seen 40 plus girls at the Palace, so I am not a newbie. But this time I really had some major problems, in fact two major incidents. One I took to the manager. In general, attitude of the girls has changed dramatically in the last few years. Don't get me wrong, there are some nice honest girls there, but the sheer number of sharks and a prevailing attitude that 50 Euros for half an hour oral and sex is not worth their time, has become common place. That was not my experience during my previous visits

If you are willing to stack up the extras to 200 Euros or more, you can have a very nice time. My first night there I broke out the cash, picked some nice girls, and did just that. Upon returning to the Palace one evening, after having a wonderful day at Oase, I was not interested in going all out, and just wanted to play with a girl for a half hour or so. Here was my experience:

Was sitting in the cinema room, tall black thin black haired Greek girl comes over snuggles up next to me, puts her hand under my towel and starts tugging on my cock. She starts the usual sales process, mostly with her tung in my ear and my first response was no thank you, I just want to rest a while. Now in past years that was pretty much enough to send a girl on her way. Not a chance. So, I nicely let her know again that I am not interested. She doesn't stop. At this point I just relax thinking she can do whatever she wants but I am not going with her. After a while she starts to chill out and what she is doing to my cock becomes more sensuous and rather nice. So we talk a little, she unwraps my towel, licks the tip of her finger and starts rubbing the tip of my fully erect cock. Her whole attitude changed and after about fifteen minutes of just playing, and talking I'm thinking maybe she would be a nice time. Big mistake!

We get to the room and in her broken English, the up selling starts hard. I am like no, I don't want all that, I just want a simple half hour. She types in the 50 Euro figure on her cell phone, shows me and says, that's what you want to pay? I say yes. She let out a big sigh and is clearly pissed! Not a real turn on. Then she starts in with one of the roughest almost all teeth blowjobs I have ever had. It was like she was pissed and wanted to bite it off. After about 30 seconds of that I just said, Stop. I don't want this. I get up off the bed and say, we are done. I will pay you your fifty Euros and that is that, goodbye! I really didn't want any drama, just wanted to get rid of her. It has been my experience that 1 out of 5 girls you see at an FKK will be a dud. They may be lousy in bed, not really into it or whatever, but they never tried to bite my dick off! And they usually are more than happy to work for the 50 Euros and I always tip well for good service.

So I am really pissed, sitting at the bar and this very sweet Hungarian blond I was with a few nights ago comes up to me. Of course she wants to play again and I tell her what I just went through. Then she tells me something very interesting. She says she always goes through all services and prices and exactly what the client wants before she starts for this very reason. She did this with me the other night. And I didn't like that because I know what the price structure is and I know what is extra. I like to just play and if I CIM it is extra and if we do anal it is extra. I don't like a program. Then she says she has a lot of regular clients who come to her at the Palace for that very reason. They don't want the hassle of dealing with all the scams from the other girls. I'm thinking, interesting – this girl is marketing her honesty and work ethic? What is going on in this place. I think just about everybody knows what the pricing is and if the girls don't think 50 euros with a tip for good service is worth a half hour of their time, why are they working at this club? The club sets the prices, not us or the girls.

The next night was even worse. Since I am staying at the hotel next door I go back thinking I will give the Palace one more try. This time I meet up with Anna Maria, a little Spanish lady with long black wavy hair, smoking body, and a set of bolt-ons. I was with her my first night. We did Anal, and as everyone should now, that is 150 euros extra, 200 Euros total for half an hour. Great time. This time I again just want a nice simple session. She gives great service kissing, I go down on her, ask her is she likes fingers in her pussy, she says yes. Whole session lasts about 45 minutes tops. I make some comment how I will give her 100 Euros, because it was over the 30 minute mark and I think to myself that I will tip her because the service was excellent. She says, "I think it is a lot more than that. " She wants 200 Euros! I'm like, for what? She says kissing is extra, pussy licking is extra, fingers in the pussy is extra. I tell her I have never payed extra for those services either girls do them or they don't. Always the ladies choice. The club does not list those as extra services, and that 200 Euros for 45 minutes of oral and sex is way over the top.

She is firm with her 200 Euros and finally I say, lets discuss it with the manager. She thinks for a second as says no, "I don't want to discuss it with the manager, I want you to give me 200 Euros. " I say, no way! Walk to the money locker and give her 100 Euros. Now she is really pissed and wants to go to the manager. I'm like, fine. She gives her pitch to the manager about how she told me the first time what all her extra services are and prices. Lets be clear, that never happened. If she would have told me those services are extra I would not have spent time with her because I know they are not!

The manager didn't seem to be buying her argument as I explained to her that I have been here many times and never charged for those services. And, I had those services at Oase and World this week with absolutely no issue. At one point Anna Maria turns to me and says, "you know what, you are just a jerk. A real Jerk! The manager quickly scolds her. The manager suggests that the issue be resolved with me paying the girl 20 Euros, really a tip. I think that amount shows who's side the manager was on. At this point I am so pissed and I want to make the point that on my end, it is not about the money but the principle. I also wanted to make it clear to the manager that there are consequences for this kind of bullshit from the girls. I say, you know what, I am so pissed I will give you 50 Euros! Then I turn to the manager and say I will never set foot in your club again, and head for the showers. As I am walking away I hear the manager saying something to the girl in German like, what do you think you are doing! She didn't sound happy with her.

As I exit the shower, the manager is standing there waiting for me. "Can I talk to you please? " She apologizes to me and says those are not extra services and says extras are like Anal and CIM. I know that! She offers me a free entrance pass to the club to try and smooth things out. I tell her about what happened to me the night before. Then I gently let into her. I tell her that as a manager she has got some big problems to deal with out there on the floor. The girls do not know or respect the pricing scale and they think that fifty euros for half an hour is a waste of their time. And, the up-selling is absolutely ferocious! I tell her that this is the kind of stuff that gives her club a bad reputation. She honestly seemed concerned. Then told me, "we need to hear this information from customers about what is going on in the club. "

I don't know what she told Anna Maria, I hope she told her that she can not charge extra for those services. I think this is a management issue more than anything else. They are letting the girls run over club policy and things are out of control. The Palace is no longer a relaxing and fun experience. I had a fantastic time at Oase and World with no Bullshit this trip. I think we customers should vote with our feet and take our business elsewhere until the Palace management cleans this mess up. Would like to hear what you think.

[Akibono]

The Sharks have really ruined the Palace

I have visited the Frankfurt area probably five to six time in the last three years. Each time, I visit the Palace, Oase, multiple times. This trip I also rented a car and went to World for the first time. I have probably seen 40 plus girls at the Palace, so I am not a newbie. But this time I really had some major problems, in fact two major incidents. One I took to the manager. In general, attitude of the girls has changed dramatically in the last few years. Don't get me wrong, there are some nice honest girls there, but the sheer number of sharks and a prevailing attitude that 50 Euros for half an hour oral and sex is not worth their time, has become common place. That was not my experience during my previous visits

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I concur with your evaluation completely. Your experience is pretty much the same as mine a few weeks ago. I have been acosted by some pretty aggressive girls in other clubs, but never to the extent here. No just gets you a shitty comment. I will not return to this club too. I hope Mainhatten proves to be a good alternative since the other clubs really require a car to get to. I would not call for a boycott, but I think people should seriously consider taking their business elsewhere. What happens is very close to extortion. The girls lie, don't deliver and have the attitude that you owe them money. This is really too bad since this used to be a good club. It is unfair for the honest hard working girls since the poor providers drive away business. Gernarlly, when I go to a club I can tell how the girls are by the way they react to older Germans. There are the people who come here regularly and know what to expect. I see mainly foreign businessmen in this club with an occasional German. I had a talk with one and he had some very guarded comments about the club and said he stuck with the German girls.

It is pretty clear management has lost control, and this club has gone downhill fast. Those evaluation forms that let you refer to specific girls and their services are interesting. Could managment be entirely unaware of what is going on? It is a shame since Palace has some of the best rooms in any club.

[Basketcase]

1. And they usually are more than happy to work for the 50 Euros and I always tip well for good service.

2. The club sets the prices, not us or the girls.

3. This time I meet up with Anna Maria, a little Spanish lady with long black wavy hair, smoking body, and a set of bolt-ons. I was with her my first night. We did Anal, and as everyone should now, that is 150 euros extra, 200 Euros total for half an hour.
Dear Cozumel Sir,

Some responses to your Palace report.

1. Just to let you know: some guys here do not like to tip the girls. Just to warn you if you get a backlash on the forum.

2. I am not the expert but legally the house cannot set the price since the girls are independent contractors. I know at Palace there are the laminate sheets with pricing of the services and I have seen in other clubs like Park Sauna Residenz, Samya and Das 5 Element where there are price lists displayed for sexual services e.g swallow, CIM, anal, dressing up, etc... These price lists are in German so foreigners are not going to know unless you can read German. It is fun guessing what each extra and service is from the list if you do not read German. I think by now I can work out the German anyway. I mean anal is anal in both english and german. CIM is a little harder to work out. Swallow was an easy guess and dress up had me in stitches. You do not get much dress up on FKK day in a Hesse FKK - only in NRW clubs is it 25 euro extra. The girls I have asked in FKK Oase and FKK World to dress up for me and the response is that they had no kinky outfits unless I bought them with me. I guess I need to go shopping at Beate Uhse for outfits. Dress size is going to be an issue.

3. I did not realise that anal sex at Palace was 150 euro extra? I thought it was 100 euro extra. I only ever paid 100 euro for anal sex in Palace, Oase and World. In NRW, the going rate for anal is like 50 euro and at home it is from 24 euro extra. Maybe I should fuck more girls in the ass at home since it is cheaper but owo is less prevalent at home unless you do escorts or apartments. Man, 150 euro for anal sex as an extra. I hope you shagged Anna Maria's (Ro / Spain) butthole like Rocco Siffredi and made her gape :-).


Thank you for the report nonetheless.

Cheers,

[Myrmidon]

My experience @ Palace is quite limited. Yet, last May I had few problems with the dayshift. Rather, it was the early evening girls who shocked me with their attitude that 50€ for a half hour 'standard' services was beneath them. It was the first and only time I was refused by a girl, because it was not enough money. I stood my ground and refused this type of upsell.

Oase, World never presented this attitude to me. And Bernd's was...well, Bernd's!

I like Palace. Hopefully the 'attitude' will be 'better' next year.

Myr.

[Ortos]

I did have some fun with newbies & no harm was done.



Please Stop polluting the forum with your crap, Vito!

I wish to remind you: You are only one or two posts away from being banned by the Admin here. There must be some good reason for that, correct? Watch your tounge, boy, or you shall be out of here forever, probably to the delight of 99% of this board community (that is speculation...maybe it is only 98%).

The statement you make above explains why you are one of the most loathsome characters here: "No harm done..."???? Personally, I find your attitude and posting behaviour towards newbies full of disgrace and lacking any sort of honour or integrity. But perhaps I am the only one.

Keep it up, boy, we'd all like to read more of your gems of wisdom and warped logic...and see you post your way out of here...that would be a blessing on all.

To quote an highly esteemed Asian philosopher:

"Than sikmek this sikmek that.

You verry bad man."

Remember: 3 strikes and your out...I think the count is 0-2. Keep swinging, slugger...

Btw: We're just having some fun here...no harm done really, right?


O

[Angus Magee]

I don't know what she told Anna Maria, I hope she told her that she can not charge extra for those services. I think this is a management issue more than anything else. They are letting the girls run over club policy and things are out of control. The Palace is no longer a relaxing and fun experience. I had a fantastic time at Oase and World with no Bullshit this trip. I think we customers should vote with our feet and take our business elsewhere until the Palace management cleans this mess up. Would like to hear what you think.

I've not been to Palace so I can not really comment on any specifics of the club, but I have been frequently to Artemis in Berlin which is similar in that it is a large, city based club. So I feel some general comments are relevant.

First it sounds to me like you handled it well. Taking it to management was the right thing to do even if they did, it sounds, wimp out on you a bit. Suggesting that you give the girl a 20 Euro "tip" to appease her dignity?? Am I reading that right? Talk about divided loyalties!

But let's face it, keeping some 80-100 girls & young women on track who are engaged in sex for cash, with their various states of happiness at doing this job, must be a monumentally difficult job. I can imagine that it takes a person with very special skills to pull it off and keep all the guests happy. I say this not to excuse Palace's management behavior, just to remind folks what the reality is.

I know that this past winter the GM at Artemis passed away suddenly of a heart attack. He was well liked by the girls but took no shit from them. By all reports he was fair but firm. In the time immediately after his passing I visited and noticed that the girls were a little out of control. In fact I had my first ever run in with an Artemis girl the night I visited, taken to management and ruled in my favor. The whole apparent non-infraction (she accused me of feeling her up then bailing on a session) was in fact caught on video and I did not feel her up, unless putting a hand on a girl's back can be called feeling a girl up.

What to do-if anything? I personally would do nothing other than what you have done, make your own decision to go else where. I am not big on boycots for this sort of thing as I figure affairs will take care of themselves in their own way. Markets, if they truly are free, will adjust as they see fit.

I am afraid though that Palace will not suffer too, too much. It seems to be a nicely equipped club, aggressively marketed in a target rich environment. It is close to an international airport, a business center and a big Messe. How many of the guys who visit do you think actually read this forum? Not many.

But for us dedicated mongers your report is good information. At the very least it gives a reading of the climate in Palace and lets us know to be on our toes when we visit.

So thanks for posting your experience.

AM

[Toscana]

I have visited the Frankfurt area probably five to six time in the last three years. Each time, I visit the Palace, Oase, multiple times. This trip I also rented a car and went to World for the first time. I have probably seen 40 plus girls at the Palace, so I am not a newbie. But this time I really had some major problems, in fact two major incidents. One I took to the manager. In general, attitude of the girls has changed dramatically in the last few years. Don't get me wrong, there are some nice honest girls there, but the sheer number of sharks and a prevailing attitude that 50 Euros for half an hour oral and sex is not worth their time, has become common place. That was not my experience during my previous visits.Sorry to read about your experience. Your disappointment is understandable, yet you wrote a calm and detailed report about it. Thank you.

You will regularly read defences of Palace, the gist of which is that you have to pick the right girls and then you will have a good time. The old "my instinct is always true" mantra. This can indeed be true, but then most visitors to Palace are not regulars, nor unlike you even experienced FKK punters, and your experience seems all too common. I can assure you that I, too, hate the relentless, exploitative, insulting pressure exerted by many - not all - of the girls. Whether you fall for it or not is irrelevant, it is unacceptable, wearisome behaviour.

Myrmidon's point is, however, valid, and you might want to take it on board for the future. I, like him, will only ever contemplate a visit to this club during the early shift from 10.00, when the atmosphere is very different and you often get girls very much inclined to give good service.

At the end of the day you are right that it is the management's responsibility to control things. The charge is EUR 75, which is a lot of money if you end up feeling uncomfortable on their premises.

I shall be interested to see if FKK Mainhattan takes off. It is run by the FKK World owners, and they run a busy club, indeed others too, on a much tighter rein. If they get Mainhattan up and running, the combination of Mainhattan and Oase may provide strong enough near-Frankfurt competition for Palace to mend their ways. But to date - the reaction of the management to your complaint seems to have been mild in contrast to others' experience! - the regular complaints on this issue have been pissing in the wind. The success of the club has given the managers little reason to change things.

My only objection in your direction is that you have made multiple visits to clubs in the past, but never reported... Shame on you. ;-)

[Troll222]

Hello all,

I am planning a visit at the club from Sunday, July 11.

I wonder how the lineup now during the holiday.

[Hessen Bub]

Anal at Palace is 100 EUR extra.

And whenever a girl does try to charge something that is not an extra - report her to management. They need to hear from as many clients as possible that there are girls that do ruin the club.

Mainhattan yet is no competition to Palace, line-up is not stable enough. They promised improvement - but let's see. 40 EUR eintrance until Thursday is a good deal with the weather being nice. Outside facilities at Mainhattan are not as big as World or Oase, but neat and clean.

HB

[Suller Joe]

LOL Tosc :D

I guess that Joe will also find it normal that a taxi will charge based on number (and weight) of persons getting into the cab.Yes. It is called "bus". Check it out.

[Cozumel]

Some of you mention services and pricing. First of all, if you walk into the Palace and tell them this is your first time there, they will run down a price list with you. It is part of their standard pitch to first timers. 50 euros half hour of oral and sex. Finish in the mouth 50 euros extra. And Anal sex is 150 extra. I think legally, at this point, one could argue this is the club setting prices. One of you mentioned that really they can't set prices for the girls because they are independent contractors. Well they are.

Some of you guys are getting anal for 100 extra, my hat is off to you. I have never met a girl at the Palace or Oase that would do it for less than 150. And again, that is the stated price by staff at the door.

After a little distance from this issue, I think the best thing we can do is to continually complain to management when there are issues with the girls. Whether or not they act on the information is a big questions mark. I think that Manhattan can only help with these issues. It is a new club, but hopefully in a few years it can give the Palace some real competition.

It was good to get some feed back from you guys.

Thanks

[Vito Corleone]

Please Stop polluting the forum with your crap, Vito!

I wish to remind you: You are only one or two posts away from being banned by the Admin here. There must be some good reason for that, correct? Watch your tounge, boy, or you shall be out of here forever, probably to the delight of 99% of this board community (that is speculation...maybe it is only 98%).

The statement you make above explains why you are one of the most loathsome characters here: "No harm done..."???? Personally, I find your attitude and posting behaviour towards newbies full of disgrace and lacking any sort of honour or integrity. But perhaps I am the only one.

Keep it up, boy, we'd all like to read more of your gems of wisdom and warped logic...and see you post your way out of here...that would be a blessing on all.

To quote an highly esteemed Asian philosopher:

"Than sikmek this sikmek that.

You verry bad man."

Remember: 3 strikes and your out...I think the count is 0-2. Keep swinging, slugger...

Btw: We're just having some fun here...no harm done really, right?

OOrtos,

No harm done man, just having some fun.

I know what I did was wrong & some of my responses to other members after. You & others are correct, no need for vulgar responses. Honestly, I am surprised I was not banned. I was warned 5-6 times & I guess after the second strike I hit a couple of foul balls into the stands. No more swinging for the fences, I've chocked up the bat & only defensive swings for now.

Only 99% of the board? I thought the % would be higher!

[Vito Corleone]

I concur with your evaluation completely. Your experience is pretty much the same as mine a few weeks ago. I have been acosted by some pretty aggressive girls in other clubs, but never to the extent here. No just gets you a shitty comment. I will not return to this club too. I hope Mainhatten proves to be a good alternative since the other clubs really require a car to get to. I would not call for a boycott, but I think people should seriously consider taking their business elsewhere. What happens is very close to extortion. The girls lie, don't deliver and have the attitude that you owe them money. This is really too bad since this used to be a good club. It is unfair for the honest hard working girls since the poor providers drive away business. Gernarlly, when I go to a club I can tell how the girls are by the way they react to older Germans. There are the people who come here regularly and know what to expect. I see mainly foreign businessmen in this club with an occasional German. I had a talk with one and he had some very guarded comments about the club and said he stuck with the German girls.

It is pretty clear management has lost control, and this club has gone downhill fast. Those evaluation forms that let you refer to specific girls and their services are interesting. Could managment be entirely unaware of what is going on? It is a shame since Palace has some of the best rooms in any club.It has been a couple of months since my last visit to Palace, but I did notice some strange behavior form my regulars. Extortion is a little over the top, but they will try to get away with milking everyone especially newbies (to the FKK's & to Palace).

In the past, it seemed like management did not care what the girls were doing. Everthing was fine until the club started to lose clients (due to the economy or bad reputation). Management started to ask if I had a good time, please come back & etc. Clients were treated (except for a few) like a sack of beans in the past.

Earlier this year, I witnessed a girl sent home by management after some issue with a client. He did not look like a regular, a typical newbie with balls.

Some of the bad attitudes & sharks did not bother me in the past. Just a part of the experience at Palace. I found the babes really desperate for clients wandering around a mostly empty club (I think it was either a Thursday or Friday). Gone are the 1-2 hr wait for rooms (even after the renovation) & sharks trying to charge 50E for the wait.

[Basketcase]

Some of you guys are getting anal for 100 extra, my hat is off to you. I have never met a girl at the Palace or Oase that would do it for less than 150. And again, that is the stated price by staff at the door.
Cozumel,

Are you saying it is 150€ for anal sex and a half hour session? If yes, then that is definitely 150€. Oase definitely the price for anal is 100€ extra on top of the standard pricing for a half hour session or whatever time session you are booking.

At World it is the same 100€ extra but I have not fucked a hooker in the ass at World in the last month so it may have changed.

As Hessen Bub says the price for anal sex at Palace is 100€ extra. Hessen Bub is a local and would be closer to the action. People like me do not go to the clubs very often so we can only work off our experiences. From my experiences it is only 100€ extra for anal sex.

In the Nord Rhein clubs you will find anal sex is 50€ extra. I can confirm this since last month, 20 days ago, I fucked a cute little blond hooker at Golden Time in her sweet tight ass and she charged me 50 euro extra on a 1/2 hour session that was really one hour, but she only charged 50 euro for the time.

[Grestal]

Some of you mention services and pricing. First of all, if you walk into the Palace and tell them this is your first time there, they will run down a price list with you. It is part of their standard pitch to first timers. 50 euros half hour of oral and sex. Finish in the mouth 50 euros extra. And Anal sex is 150 extra. I think legally, at this point, one could argue this is the club setting prices. One of you mentioned that really they can't set prices for the girls because they are independent contractors. Well they are.

Some of you guys are getting anal for 100 extra, my hat is off to you. I have never met a girl at the Palace or Oase that would do it for less than 150. And again, that is the stated price by staff at the door.

After a little distance from this issue, I think the best thing we can do is to continually complain to management when there are issues with the girls. Whether or not they act on the information is a big questions mark. I think that Manhattan can only help with these issues. It is a new club, but hopefully in a few years it can give the Palace some real competition.

It was good to get some feed back from you guys.

Thanks


Hello everybody

behind every door there is the price list for the extras
if memory serves is
+ 50 for CIM
+ 50 for CIB
+100 for Anal

at list it was so during my last visit a couple of months ago

keep on hunting

[Hessen Bub]

Yep, these are the standard prices and they are still valid.

HB

[Angus Magee]

Yep, these are the standard prices and they are still valid.

HB


I can not help but wonder if we are seeing the first stirrings of a price rise in FKK land. I wonder what someone like HB (who I assume is a local who has been around the scene for sometime) thinks of this. Not how you feel about it-of course we all would like to see prices remain the same or even drop;)-but if it may be a possibility. How long have these standard prices been standard? Are the girls starting to really feel the pinch in earnings and wanting a raise? If the 50 Euro/half hour standard has been in effect for a long time, and day to day expenses have risen, then maybe all the friction over extras pricing is their way of giving themselves a raise? Unpleasant but there it is.

P4P is always a pretty free market and the girls charge what they can get away with. In an FKK it is much less so and despite this rule (law?) that the house can not set prices, it seems fundamental to the FKK experience that they do. If they did not would we not all be constantly haggling with the girls over the price? I for one would not like this much at all. I like to know more or less what things cost and decide if I am a player or not.

Just throwing it out there.

AM

[Talbot]

Palace is has a flow of non-local guys from short stop overs, Messe, city visitors, foriegn workers in Frankfurt which are shark bait. The naivety of the customers lends itself to a culture of explotation amongst the girls.

The girls chat, tell others about sessions, problems, how much they made and for what service. Most will upsell, sometimes aggresively. Some will push the boundaries of doing less and less for more and more. It is logical and rational to exploit this group of largely non-regular clientel in this way.

A few girls will be in vanguard of changes, if they are successful, others will follow. After a time it will be the norm. On the other hand of the girls have too many hassles, rejections, management problems, they will become more relaxed.

The question is. Are guys going to accept a pricing structure that differs from what is printed on the room door or explained by management when you pay your 75e?

[GandJim]

Some of you guys are getting anal for 100 extra, my hat is off to you. I have never met a girl at the Palace or Oase that would do it for less than 150. And again, that is the stated price by staff at the door.
Haven't been to Palace for years, for the exact same reason you raised, but have been to Oase in May and in June and girls were still asking 100 euros extra for anal, in particular Anabelle, Emma, Charlene and Heidi.

Now that you mention it, some girls did say 150 euros for anal sex but then I asked "in total, including the 30mn, right?" and they always say "yes, of course". Also, sometimes I asked when they mention they do anal sex "it's 100 euros for anal, right ?" and they reply "no, 150, 50 for the session and 100 extra for anal".

I guess sometimes they say 150 euros to avoid any confusion because if they say 100 euros, maybe some clients will then pay them only 100 euros in total (in particular clients coming from the NRW clubs where anal is only 50 euros extra) and this can lead to disputes. And if the client understood it's 150 euros for extra and give them 200 in total, they wouldn't complaint.


How long have these standard prices been standard? Are the girls starting to really feel the pinch in earnings and wanting a raise? If the 50 Euro/half hour standard has been in effect for a long time, and day to day expenses have risen, then maybe all the friction over extras pricing is their way of giving themselves a raise?
At least since 2002 when I first went to FKKs, standard price has remained the same (50 euros for 30mn). At that point of time, I already understood that it has been in effect for some years already. I'm also curious to learn from veteran members what was the price before.

Jim

[Jake Randall]

I cannot say I have experienced this in any of my Palace visits. The clientele at Palace is frequently far more international than World or Oase due to its central location and capacity to cater to the Messe / Trade fair attendees. If anything I find that there are more girls less understanding of non Germans or non whites for that matter at World and Oase since for the newer girls having come from Eastern Europe may have not much experience from people not ethnically originating from the European region.

Some girls specialise in Asians. For example, gorgeous super blond Lina (Czech) homes in on Asian men at Palace specifically from what I see. She ploughs through them like a hot knife through butter. There was one time on a visit where I saw her work her way through a line of 5 Asian men at the tables that were grouped together. She went through each asking for a session until she got a bite, finishing that man and coming back for the others.

If the girls are only interested in whites only then these girls are seriously excluding a decent proportion of Palace clientele which happens to be non white who are there specifically to fuck and spend money. These guys will have come a long way invariably and are there for a purpose so they know what they are there for.

Also Palace like the other clubs Oase and World has a fair proportion of ethnic middle eastern customers whether they be locals or visitors. I tend to see middle eastern customers more so in the later evenings.Thanks for the information. I will definitely check it out soon. Also a bit off topic but are there some good swingers bars in Frankfurt? I know about Beverly and I plan on checking that out when I get time but would like to go to one in Frankfurt first.

[Basketcase]

At Palace you get 6 VIP-Cards for the price of 5. No personalization, you can share them with 5 friends. Who cares? They have their adavance payment, period.
Wow, I have been going to Palace and I have not noticed this deal for a 6 entry VIP card for the price of 5 entries. That means for 375 euro you get 6 entries and thereby getting a 16.67% discount on the overall price of those 6 entries. That is an okay incentive if you go regularly. It may be worth getting one. I will need to save up.

Compare Oase's deal of 6 entries for the price of 5 deal which is now over. You paid 325 euro for the 6 entries and thereby got a similar 16.67% discount or 10.83 euro discount on the 65 euro entrance fee. What you got was a card that says frei entritt and signed by Mauro to indicate that it was a prepaid card.

[Basketcase]

Thanks for the information. I will definitely check it out soon.
Jake Randall,

Good for you. You are a lucky man to be working in Frankfurt. I guess you have localised since you work there.

Palace is a nice club. There is excellent facilities, the girls are gorgeous and the club does not smell like Oase (men's lockers) and World (due to the manuring of the local fields) and the food is good with an emphasis on international cusine rather than local cusine. The clientele is international so you will find others in a similar situation as you for camaraderie. Many will speak German so that should help.

All the best,

[Basketcase]

My only objection in your direction is that you have made multiple visits to clubs in the past, but never reported... Shame on you. ;-)
Toscana,

I will echo the point made by other esteemed contributers to this Palace thread. There is a distinct tendency for writers to only post a report in the Palace thread when they have something to complain about like Cozumel did. Until there is a snag in the adventure there is no report and when there is a hiccup then out comes the report all blazing.

Maybe it is because the more veteran writers tend towards Oase and World so you get balanced reporting on those threads moreso.

[Hessen Bub]

I can not help but wonder if we are seeing the first stirrings of a price rise in FKK land. I wonder what someone like HB (who I assume is a local who has been around the scene for sometime) thinks of this. Not how you feel about it-of course we all would like to see prices remain the same or even drop;)-but if it may be a possibility. How long have these standard prices been standard? Are the girls starting to really feel the pinch in earnings and wanting a raise? If the 50 Euro/half hour standard has been in effect for a long time, and day to day expenses have risen, then maybe all the friction over extras pricing is their way of giving themselves a raise?

Actually prices have dropped since the EUR has been introcuced: 30 min for 100 DM transferred into 30 min for 50 EUR which means 97,80 DM. ;)

Sure the girls would like a price increase. And at Palace the management does not keep them from making their own prices. At other clubs the pricing structure is more strict and enforced by management.

In general prices in the pay sex scene have decreased in the last years. So the more or less stable pricing at FKKs should be more than fair.

HB

[Toscana]

In general prices in the pay sex scene have decreased in the last years. So the more or less stable pricing at FKKs should be more than fair.

HBYes, I've seen club entry prices rise, but not the charges on the mat. In some smaller clubs they have sunk, to the extent that BBBJ became part of the standard EUR 50 price, rather than an extra. I do not anticipate any changes.

[Zathrus]

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[Jake Randall]

Ok so I finally went to Palace a few days back. Overall it was a good experience.

As soon as I walked in I got suckered into having a threesome with (forgot their names. I think was was called Gina. One of them was from Germany the other from the Czech republic) two blonds who were sitting on the swing. One of them has a great set of tits while the other was pretty tall. Both of them were extremely friendly but they gave a CBJ which wasnt that nice. Since it was my first time I was really excited and ended up finishing really quickly(5-10min tops). After that many girls kept approaching me but I had learnt my mistake and decided to wait till I was ready and less nervous. After a while I decided to fuck some more and ended up with the Italian girl. I had some problem getting an erection but she was really nice about it and gave an excellent BBBJ with very good use of the tongue.

Then later I went with a girl named Georgiana or something(black hair, small boobs and not that good looking). She seemed like she would be a great fuck so I went but it ended up being the worst of the night. Finally I had found top form but she kept complaining that I was talking too long and that I should finish fast. I didn't like her attitude at all because even in the room she kept trying to sell me extra's and I forced myself to finish quickly. At the end(probably 20min) she told me that since I took so long I need to give her a 40 euro tip and when I said no her attitude went from bad to worse. I just paid her the 50 and that was that with her. Finally for the last one I ended up with this chick from hungary, nice perky tits, kinda short straight blond hair. She was extremely sweet and by far the best of the lot. Had a good session with her and decided to call it a day.

I problem I had though was that none of the girls let me DATY. This was something I really like doing but all of them refused it. They seemed a little embarrassed that I wanted to do it in the first place and told me that I didn't need to take the trouble. It was pretty hard having long conversations in English with them so I left it at that. I was just wondering if it was an unusual request on my part and if the girls at FKK's don't usually allow DATY? Also I am planning to visit Oase soon and was wondering if I should even bother trying to DATY there or if FKK girls usually never do that. Another question I had was, if the girls at Oase give rim jobs. I was too afraid too try at palace but its something I've really been wanting to experience and was wondering if you guys could tell me the names of the girls at Oase that would be willing to do it and how much extra it would cost me.

Thanks

JR

[Jake Randall]

Jake Randall,

Good for you. You are a lucky man to be working in Frankfurt. I guess you have localised since you work there.

Palace is a nice club. There is excellent facilities, the girls are gorgeous and the club does not smell like Oase (men's lockers) and World (due to the manuring of the local fields) and the food is good with an emphasis on international cusine rather than local cusine. The clientele is international so you will find others in a similar situation as you for camaraderie. Many will speak German so that should help.

All the best,Haha I just here for six more months so I intend on using it wisely. Went to palace was a great experince, plan on going to Oase now.

JR

[Jake Randall]

Ok so I finally went to Palace a few days back. Overall it was a good experience.

As soon as I walked in I got suckered into having a threesome with (forgot their names. I think was was called Gina. One of them was from Germany the other from the Czech republic) two blonds who were sitting on the swing. One of them has a great set of tits while the other was pretty tall. Both of them were extremely friendly but they gave a CBJ which wasnt that nice. Since it was my first time I was really excited and ended up finishing really quickly(5-10min tops). After that many girls kept approaching me but I had learnt my mistake and decided to wait till I was ready and less nervous. After a while I decided to fuck some more and ended up with the Italian girl. I had some problem getting an erection but she was really nice about it and gave an excellent BBBJ with very good use of the tongue.

Then later I went with a girl named Georgiana or something(black hair, small boobs and not that good looking). She seemed like she would be a great fuck so I went but it ended up being the worst of the night. Finally I had found top form but she kept complaining that I was talking too long and that I should finish fast. I didn't like her attitude at all because even in the room she kept trying to sell me extra's and I forced myself to finish quickly. At the end(probably 20min) she told me that since I took so long I need to give her a 40 euro tip and when I said no her attitude went from bad to worse. I just paid her the 50 and that was that with her. Finally for the last one I ended up with this chick from hungary, nice perky tits, kinda short straight blond hair. She was extremely sweet and by far the best of the lot. Had a good session with her and decided to call it a day.

I problem I had though was that none of the girls let me DATY. This was something I really like doing but all of them refused it. They seemed a little embarrassed that I wanted to do it in the first place and told me that I didn't need to take the trouble. It was pretty hard having long conversations in English with them so I left it at that. I was just wondering if it was an unusual request on my part and if the girls at FKK's don't usually allow DATY? Also I am planning to visit Oase soon and was wondering if I should even bother trying to DATY there or if FKK girls usually never do that. Another question I had was, if the girls at Oase give rim jobs. I was too afraid too try at palace but its something I've really been wanting to experience and was wondering if you guys could tell me the names of the girls at Oase that would be willing to do it and how much extra it would cost me.

Thanks

JR

[Jake Randall]

Jake Randall,

Good for you. You are a lucky man to be working in Frankfurt. I guess you have localised since you work there.

Palace is a nice club. There is excellent facilities, the girls are gorgeous and the club does not smell like Oase (men's lockers) and World (due to the manuring of the local fields) and the food is good with an emphasis on international cusine rather than local cusine. The clientele is international so you will find others in a similar situation as you for camaraderie. Many will speak German so that should help.

All the best,Ok so I finally went to Palace a few days back. Overall it was a good experience.

As soon as I walked in I got suckered into having a threesome with (forgot their names. I think was was called Gina. One of them was from Germany the other from the Czech republic) two blonds who were sitting on the swing. One of them has a great set of tits while the other was pretty tall. Both of them were extremely friendly but they gave a CBJ which wasnt that nice. Since it was my first time I was really excited and ended up finishing really quickly(5-10min tops). After that many girls kept approaching me but I had learnt my mistake and decided to wait till I was ready and less nervous. After a while I decided to fuck some more and ended up with the Italian girl. I had some problem getting an erection but she was really nice about it and gave an excellent BBBJ with very good use of the tongue.

Then later I went with a girl named Georgiana or something(black hair, small boobs and not that good looking). She seemed like she would be a great fuck so I went but it ended up being the worst of the night. Finally I had found top form but she kept complaining that I was talking too long and that I should finish fast. I didn't like her attitude at all because even in the room she kept trying to sell me extra's and I forced myself to finish quickly. At the end(probably 20min) she told me that since I took so long I need to give her a 40 euro tip and when I said no her attitude went from bad to worse. I just paid her the 50 and that was that with her. Finally for the last one I ended up with this chick from hungary, nice perky tits, kinda short straight blond hair. She was extremely sweet and by far the best of the lot. Had a good session with her and decided to call it a day.

I problem I had though was that none of the girls let me DATY. This was something I really like doing but all of them refused it. They seemed a little embarrassed that I wanted to do it in the first place and told me that I didn't need to take the trouble. It was pretty hard having long conversations in English with them so I left it at that. I was just wondering if it was an unusual request on my part and if the girls at FKK's don't usually allow DATY? Also I am planning to visit Oase soon and was wondering if I should even bother trying to DATY there or if FKK girls usually never do that. Another question I had was, if the girls at Oase give rim jobs. I was too afraid too try at palace but its something I've really been wanting to experience and was wondering if you guys could tell me the names of the girls at Oase that would be willing to do it and how much extra it would cost me.

Thanks,

JR

[Toscana]

I problem I had though was that none of the girls let me DATY. This was something I really like doing but all of them refused it. They seemed a little embarrassed that I wanted to do it in the first place and told me that I didn't need to take the trouble. It was pretty hard having long conversations in English with them so I left it at that. I was just wondering if it was an unusual request on my part and if the girls at FKK's don't usually allow DATY? Also I am planning to visit Oase soon and was wondering if I should even bother trying to DATY there or if FKK girls usually never do that. Another question I had was, if the girls at Oase give rim jobs. I was too afraid too try at palace but its something I've really been wanting to experience and was wondering if you guys could tell me the names of the girls at Oase that would be willing to do it and how much extra it would cost me.Over the years I can only remember a girl objecting to DATY once. So this surprises me. DATY is certainly not unusual in FKKs. On the contrary.

I don't know at what point you broached the subject with the girls, but it's definitely best to square services before you agree to go to the room, since your negotiating position is immeasurably stronger. I bet you'd get what you want that way. And certainly in Oase, where you'll probably have a much better chance of getting more service-oriented girls anyway.

As regards rimming at Oase, I'll defer to those more inclined.

[Basketcase]

Another question I had was, if the girls at Oase give rim jobs. I was too afraid too try at palace but its something I've really been wanting to experience and was wondering if you guys could tell me the names of the girls at Oase that would be willing to do it and how much extra it would cost me.
Jake Randall,

Rimming? That is nasty. You been watching too much porn.

In the general section there is a post with some thorough research of the list of girls' names that perform rimming. If you find that post you will note that most of the girls listed work at Palace.

Man, rimming, that is some nasty shit, rimming. LOL.

[Basketcase]

I problem I had though was that none of the girls let me DATY. This was something I really like doing but all of them refused it. They seemed a little embarrassed that I wanted to do it in the first place and told me that I didn't need to take the trouble. It was pretty hard having long conversations in English with them so I left it at that. I was just wondering if it was an unusual request on my part and if the girls at FKK's don't usually allow DATY?
Jake Randall,

Man, I think the only two club girls that refuse me pussy licking is Lisa (de) at Golden Time and Ricky (de) at Oase.

Not an issue with Lisa as her moniker to mongers when approached is, "no kissing no licking" but she does allow some muschi licking I found if you do it right.

As for Ricky I used to dine on her beautiful, clean, smooth shaven, pink twat for hours and hours when you add up all the sessions that I had with her and then one day she says muschi is off the menu.

Muschi licking is available at Palace readily. You just have to try it.

[Sportsman]

Another question I had was, if the girls at Oase give rim jobs. I was too afraid too try at palace but its something I've really been wanting to experience and was wondering if you guys could tell me the names of the girls at Oase that would be willing to do it and how much extra it would cost me.

Thanks,

JR
Czech Hanna at Oase does a wonderful rim job. One of the best I have experienced in Europe. No need to ask, just lift up your legs and she'd get the hint. No extra cost either.

[Basketcase]

Czech Hanna at Oase does a wonderful rim job. One of the best I have experienced in Europe. No need to ask, just lift up your legs and she'd get the hint. No extra cost either.
This is true and she is on the rimming service list that can be found in the General Info thread.

[West By Sun]

the rimming service list that can be found in the General Info thread.



One more name I would like to add to BC's list is Evelyne at Oase. The reports by other french mongers are found in Youppie.net.

http://www.youppie.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13640
http://www.youppie.net/forum/newrepl...reply&p=124797

She gave me the most surprising Fkk experience ever. I really hope she comes back. What a dirty girl. She did not stop deep rim job till I stopped that and inserted her tongue into my rectum.

[Vito Corleone]

Another question I had was, if the girls at Oase give rim jobs. I was too afraid too try at palace but its something I've really been wanting to experience and was wondering if you guys could tell me the names of the girls at Oase that would be willing to do it and how much extra it would cost me.

Thanks,

JRIf you plan to visit Palace again, Marina from Cuba & Cheyenne from Germany will do it for 50E extra. Totally worth it. Both really hot looking young babes tossing your salad like no tomorrow. No 5-10 minutes then bj. These 2 babes can go as long as you want. 30 minutes or more. Hanna @ Oase does a decent job, but she is a little milfy.

[Basketcase]

This was the post under discussion:

This is a list of the girls that I have come across or girls that I have researched on this forum that provides rimming service or “salad tossing”. I hope this helps some people.

A lot of the girls seem to be located at Palace but then many girls have now moved on since the reports are so old. It seems that the girls either do it or do not do it or if they do do it then they do not say so publically or only for select customers. Interestingly many girls do not charge for it which I think is right given comments about the current cost of pay for play actually coming down in current times.

*** Palace ***

1. Bianca from Romania 411624
2. Isabelle from Romania 680063
3. Laetitia 442491
4. Maria from Dominican Republic does a deep rim job 564341
5. Marina from Cuba 855279 and 852343
6. Natasha from Romania 847747 and 867709
7. Saskia from Russia 797824
8. Shayenne from Germany at Palace and Golden Time. Charges extra.
9. Trip report with no names 649747

*** Oase ***

1. Dagmara from Poland would lick real close and flick the anus with due attention to the perineum
2.Daniela from Russia 336954 probably not around anymore
3. Hanna from Czech Republic at Oase
4. Ivana from Croatia 902038
5. Jamilla 876145
6. Evelyne from Poland (see London Traveller's July 2010 report in Oase thread for recent update)


*** World ***
1. MILFy woman (?) I forget her name.
2. Ola from Bulgaria I have not seen Ola at World since the middle of 2009.
3. Xandra / Eva (?)671316

*** Golden Time ***
1. Antonia from Romania cost 25€ extra. She no longer works at Golden Time.
2. Shayenne from Germany at Palace and Golden Time. Charges extra.

[HardWork]

Recently at Palace. Got there early at 12am. Accosted by a Romanian girl cici who claimed she was Greek but she was pretty and playful so took her for half an hour. Nothing special just the stndard. Tried to upsell but told her I wasn't interested. She did not protest.

Rested and was approached by a number of girls including a real Greek WL, Georgina the Egyptian, saskia and also Yana. Couldn't resist her ample charms so took her for half an hour. She was just absolutely crap. Avoid my dear brothers if possible. Short blow job, always rushing and finally gave me a hand job. She just gave up after a few minutes.

Next was probably one of my best experiences ever. A Hungarian by the name of Christina. She is a small elfin faced blond who claimed to have worked at palace 5 years ago before leaving for a normal life 3 years ago. Only returned a few months ago. She is gorgeous. Spent nearly 2 hours with her talking, caressing and hugging. Of course we had sex in multiple positions and she also gave the most wonderful blow job. She went from intercourse to blow multiple times. I only wanted CBJ did not request DATY. She is absolutely superb after yana and would return just to see her.

Was going to repeat if and when I recovered but whilst resting approached by the Greek WL and Georgina who told me to get f. Ked when rejected.

Overall OK experience. Christina is superb so please look after her.

[Linga]

A word of caution, you might taste the lube the girls use to lubricate their holes, which is kinda sweet tasting - "BLEAH!"

Best to do it at a Bangkok Massage parlor after both of you soak in a bathtub full of warm sudsy water for about 15/20 minutes.


Over the years I can only remember a girl objecting to DATY once. So this surprises me. DATY is certainly not unusual in FKKs. On the contrary.

[Angus Magee]

In the interest of accuracy there is a difference between rimming & tossing the salad.

Rimming is lightly licking around the anus up to the edge (rim) of the sphincter.

Tossing the salad (actually a term from US prisons...) speaks of inserting the tongue into the anal cavity.

Personally Ol'Angus has been know to do both. But the latter requires a much more smooth tasty asshole than the former.

As for having my ass rimmed-very nice if the girl is willing. But for me she really has to think of it herself and i will not ask. Happens rarely (one Artemis girl does this for me but I will not divulge who) but it happens.

Getting my salad tossed is much more rare and I can not remember it happening in an FKK. Last time I experienced it was at The Eden Club in BKK. Those girls seem up for anything but then they also handled the cleaning duties down there.

[Amsterdamt]

Just return home after a trip to Palace, Frankfurt. This was my 3 visit to A FKK. The club in Wienna and Artemis in Berlin was far better. In Wienna the girls was fantastic all of them. In Palace just a ordinarie day in a disco!

Some fantastic and some ordinarie. I had done a little search here on Internationalsexguide before, and had made a list of girls, good and bad. Shayenne from Germany was the only one who was there during the evening of them that I had noticed of the good once. A stunning beauty who just did a quick blow job on me in the cinema. A disappointment. Later in the day, I made a Negress from Senegal. At first I had seen her in action in the movie theater and had been impressed. She did not disappoint me. The third girl did an awesome job, first in theater and then in a private room.

What distinguishes Palace from the other two clubs that this is more husstle. At Palcace the girls are pusching it and it feels more like you're on a gentlemen's club in Artemis and in Wienna. I will NOT return to the Palace. 75 Euro in the entrance and 50 Euro / session.

Everything indoors. Nice jacuzzi, cinema, nothing extra. Well, very good hot buffé in the evening. To many of the girls were sitting and chatting in the smooking areas. No, this was not a great place. If you visit Frankfurt, there are other places.

[Ak233]

This was my first visit to Palace. I was impressed by the design of the club and certainly rank it as similar to Artemis in Berlin and Oase. The locker room was clean. The restaurant was probably the best I have seen in an FKK. A lot of the girls are very beautiful and I was pleased with the selection. I had thee sessions while there on a Friday night, during the World Cup

1. Isabella (Malaga Spain). Face: 8; Body 8; Performance 9: would I repeat: maybe. This was the first, and best session of the night. I was walking through the kino and saw Isabella. She invited me over and I was attracted enough to oblige. We started with deep french kissing and then we moved to a room. She stood on a chair to adjust the air-conditioning, and in that position I just could not resist and started to lick her ass. She enjoyed this very much. Took her to the bed for some more rimming, DATY, DFK, then sex in multiple positions. She finished me off by inserting her finger in my ass and giving me a great hand job. Total time 30 minutes. Back at the safes she insisted upon 100 E for the services. It was really a GFE/porn experience, and I did not want to fight with the first girl out, so I paid the 100 E.

2. Eva/Ewa (Lithuanian); Face 8: Body: 8 Performance 7; would I repeat: yes. Ewa is a thin blond late 20s lithuanian woman. We did a lot of kissing, and I performed DATY and rimming. During the session, Ewa LEFT THE ROOM TO USE THE TOILET. In my brain I thought "I must be an idiot to let her go to the bathroom but how can I stop it? " I monitored my watch and she was gone for about two minutes. We then continued with the sex, etc, which was in fact nice and sweet. At the end of the 30 minutes we went to the safe. She asked for 100 E. "100 E for 30 minutes? I thought the charge is 50E" She then said that we were in the room for one hour! From previous bad experiences I now wear a watch with a timer on it. I showed Ewa that we had been in the room for only 30 minutes. She seemed confused at first, but then came to her senses, saying "oh, yes, you are right, it is only 30 minutes. " Okay, so we parted friends and no feelings hurt on either side. I paid 50 E.

3. Pavlova (Hungarian)-Frankly I don't even remember this girl I fcuked, but I wrote it down, so I know it happened. I didn't write anything negative about her so I guess it was okay. Probably a blond since that is my favorite flavor.

Overall, I will NOT RETURN to Palace. Although the facilities are nice, and the girls abundant enough and beautiful, it became clear very early that the girls were really not going to perform unless you were willing to cough up 100E for a session. Almost every time I asked about kissing, the girls would say that was not included and that I could opt for a "special program" for 100 E. I did go to a room with a girl who agreed to kissing, but once in the room she wanted to upsell me on everything else, and even tried to charge me another 20 E for a BBBJ, claiming a covered BJ was the only service she would perform for the half hour rate. In this situation, I just apologized to the girl for the misunderstanding and left the room. I did not pay her for anything.

Although my Oase experience this visit was underwhelming, it was certainly not because of the attitudes of the girls. I would much rather drive the extra 25 minutes to Oase then spend my time at Palace. I am definitely glad that I went to Palace, and I had three reasonably good experiences, but I will probably not return.

[Jake Randall]

Well thanks everyone for the information. Visited Oase a while back and will post my report on it in a few days. But overall I just wanted to say that my experience at Oase was way better than the one at Palace.

[Hessen Bub]

A Hungarian by the name of Christina. She is a small elfin faced blond who claimed to have worked at palace 5 years ago before leaving for a normal life 3 years ago. Only returned a few months ago.

And she did not lie to you. She was gone for while and working at Palace right at the beginning. Nice girl.

HB

[Jake Randall]

Ok so I've visited both Oase and Palace so far. Oase was by far the better experience and I will definitely be going back. In the meanwhile however I was interested in visiting some other clubs in the Frankfurt area. Das 5 element was one of the options I was considering. I was wondering is there is a thread on it in this forum and if someone would be kind enough to link it. If not I was wondering how much the girls in there charge for the different services they offer.

Thanks,

JR

[Rain City]

I visited Palace recently. This place was always clean, comfortable, and accommodating. The number of the attractive women, however, was on the lower side that day.

Saw Jessie, relatively short, medium built woman in her early 20s. She was well tanned and that complimented her blond hair. Her service was on the weak side -- LFK, no digit, though she seemed to have enjoyed DATY. Overall ok session, but probably no repeat.