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Even during Messe the club is quite slow until 5pm, it's just that it does get more crowded after like 9 or 10pm.
HB.
Danke and thanks for the link!
Kind of different from Artemis, been there a couple of times really early and still there was quite a few girls around.
Think it's because of the rules on the turnover that the girls have to respect at Artemis. The rules are probably different at Palace.
It's a pity because I really enjoyed the place.
All the best!
Danke and thanks for the link!
Kind of different from Artemis, been there a couple of times really early and still there was quite a few girls around.
Think it's because of the rules on the turnover that the girls have to respect at Artemis. The rules are probably different at Palace.
It's a pity because I really enjoyed the place.
All the best! I don't really understand you.
Do you mean there were a lot of girls at Artemis even at early hours?
What are the turnover rules?
Are'nt you going back to Palace because, if so, you have to be there early?
Norjan
Ciao Norjan.
I don't really understand you.
Do you mean there were a lot of girls at Artemis even at early hours?
What are the turnover rules?
Don't know the details but at Artemis the day is splitted in 2 turnovers.
Approx: 10am. 8pm and 7pm-5am.
The girls working there have to work at least one turnover but can work all day if they want.
This means that if a girl starts working at 7/8pm she has to stay there until 5am when the place closes.
If she starts working at 11, she can leave at 7pm.
Again, I don't remember the details but that's how it works.
This means that even if you go there at 2pm there's almost surely some nice girl to pick, not the full line up but a decent choice.
When I went to Palace at that time, there was absolutely no girls I would pay to fuck, or even fuck without paying BTW. .
Are'nt you going back to Palace because, if so, you have to be there early?
On that day I'll have to catch a plane at around 9pm, this means leaving the club at 7pm at the max.
If there's no girls before 5pm, I will be staying there very little, which I usually don't like.
As an alternative, I could catch a plane in the early morning and just stay at Palace all evening and night. Don't know how the place is during late hours. Done that at Artemis many times but don't know Palace, only been there twice.
Just have to make up my mind.
I'll visit Oase the day before.
Ciao!
Ciao Norjan.
Don't know the details but at Artemis the day is splitted in 2 turnovers.
Approx: 10am. 8pm and 7pm-5am.
The girls working there have to work at least one turnover but can work all day if they want.
This means that if a girl starts working at 7/8pm she has to stay there until 5am when the place closes.
If she starts working at 11, she can leave at 7pm.
Again, I don't remember the details but that's how it works.
This means that even if you go there at 2pm there's almost surely some nice girl to pick, not the full line up but a decent choice.
When I went to Palace at that time, there was absolutely no girls I would pay to fuck, or even fuck without paying BTW. .
On that day I'll have to catch a plane at around 9pm, this means leaving the club at 7pm at the max.
If there's no girls before 5pm, I will be staying there very little, which I usually don't like.
As an alternative, I could catch a plane in the early morning and just stay at Palace all evening and night. Don't know how the place is during late hours. Done that at Artemis many times but don't know Palace, only been there twice.
Just have to make up my mind.
I'll visit Oase the day before.
Ciao! OK, thanks for enlightening me.
Norjan
Hessen Bub
12-29-10, 22:31
At Palace girls also work shifts. But the club can't tell the club which shift to work, Artemis also can't.
HB
At Palace girls also work shifts. But the club can't tell the club which shift to work, Artemis also can't.
HBThen maybe it's because some girls also sleep at Artemis and therefore thay start working in the first shift.
Customers come in very early and say: "wow, there's girls also very early, I'll tell my friends on the forum."
Other girls say "Hey there's customers coming in also in the first shift, lets go work."
And everybody is happy!
Seriously, don't know what the story is, still. . .
Ciao!
Hessen Bub
12-30-10, 11:41
Girls do sleep at Palace's hotel (2min walking distance) as well. What is the story? I don't know, but in FFM there's quite a few clubs, in Berlin there's Artemis only. FFM is the financial capital of Germany, Berlin is a little more quiet, different type of clientel. Maybe "Berliners" are more daytime-mongers. . It's thr only club that does have special rates on one day in the week for cabdrivers and retired people.
HB
Girls do sleep at Palace's hotel (2min walking distance) as well. What is the story? I don't know, but in FFM there's quite a few clubs, in Berlin there's Artemis only. FFM is the financial capital of Germany, Berlin is a little more quiet, different type of clientel. Maybe "Berliners" are more daytime-mongers. . It's thr only club that does have special rates on one day in the week for cabdrivers and retired people.
HBYep, I think it's just that. Different cities, different habits.
I'll end up spending the night at Palace. Ahaha.
Have you ever been there until real late, is there still action?
All the best!
Hessen Bub
12-30-10, 19:54
Actually line-up this week was much better than expected. About 40. 50 girls. A lot of regulars are on Christmas / winter break, but some stayed. When do you want to go?
HB
Actually line-up this week was much better than expected. About 40. 50 girls. A lot of regulars are on Christmas / winter break, but some stayed. When do you want to go?
HBEhm. April, during Musikmesse. A loooooong time.
Ciao.
Has anybody stayed at the Fleming Hotel?
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=the+palace. De&layer=see&sll=50. 127970, 8.626540&cid=13083396261049576277&cbp=13, 151. 52, 0.1. 13&cbll=50. 128029, 8.625923&hl=en&gl=ca&ie=UTF8&hq=the+palace. De&hnear=&ll=50. 128103, 8.626177&spn=0. 005385, 0.016512&z=17&panoid=Iu8zKtXCKVfnqGvHIqviHg
Basketcase
01-01-11, 21:20
PS: Here's a page with all the dates for the Messe Frankfurt:
http://frankfurt-interaktiv.de/frankfurt/veranstaltungen/messetermine_2011-2012.html
Thank you Hessen Bub. I have put those dates into my 2011 diary so I know when to expect the clubs to be busy and when hotel prices may go up.
Cheers,
Thank you Hessen Bub. I have put those dates into my 2011 diary so I know when to expect the clubs to be busy and when hotel prices may go up.
Cheers, First off, Happy New Year BC hope you're keeping well.
My thought is exactly. I was planning to visit the top 3s in late March / early April but now looking to divert away from Musikmesse. BTW, Thank you HB for posting the Messe schedule.
Hessen Bub
01-01-11, 23:23
Fleming's is a great place to stay, all their hotels in FFM.
HB
Basketcase
01-01-11, 23:43
First off, Happy New Year BC hope you're keeping well.
My thought is exactly. I was planning to visit the top 3s in late March / early April but now looking to divert away from Musikmesse. BTW, Thank you HB for posting the Messe schedule. Hi Wassab,
Happy New Year 2011 to you too good sir. Yes, I am keeping well. I am well pleased with my efforts for 2010 and now look forward to 2011's schedule of club visits.
I tend to try to avoid visiting the clubs during messes / fairs since the price of hotels go up. Rental cars are less of an issue during messes but sometimes they can become scarce. From my experience the muskimesse is not a cockfest like ambiente messe, automechanika messe, and the multiple messes in the last week of January. Even buchmesse is not so bad in the club. It may be that music people and book people do not fornicate as much as the macho petrol lovers of automechanika messe do.
The one comment that sticks in my mind about musik messe from the Palace and Oase girls was that Musikmesse delegates were a bit odd. They could not precisely say what it was: whether they were arty or that since they were in the music business that they expected sex for free (casting couch mentality). Similar to the book messe delegates some girls said that they were a bit arty as well in their tastes.
Robes are available next to the reception & just grab a new one next time. That's exactly what I tried to do, but the Obersturmbanfurer standing there stopped me, saying this was not allowed.
Nille Copenhagen
01-03-11, 15:36
Previously from OASE Christmas party.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1104320&viewfull=1#post1104320
The next day of my trip was to the FKK Palace.
Sorry for the bad English I was too lazy to write two separate reports in Danish (for the Danish forum) and English, so I used google-translate to translate and correct the words that doesn't make sense.
Danish to English and it goes like this:
It was Sunday and "relaxing" day at FKK Palace, I thought, hehe. Please read on.
Admission: 75
After a wonderful day + night at FKK Oase, I got some sleep and checked out of hotel at 11.
I got into the car and rolled off to FKK Palace. I arrived early and got a good parking spot by the entrance.
A wonderful reunion with the Palace, I hoped to meet some of the lovely girls as I've met before.
Palace has a special place in my heart as it was here I lost my "FKK virginity". I clearly remember the first time I visited the FKK Palace, I could not believe my own eyes, I thought I was dead and had gone to heaven or hell. Everywhere I saw nice, pretty, naked girls who were total willing after my dick and my money.
Now, after countless number of FKK visit I kept it cool.
Outside the Palace entrance the black Porsche Carrera was there, you could win it at the Christmas lottery. I found out later that one of the girls had won the car, congratulations to the lucky girl.
Palace has a 1001-night inspired decor with large sofas groups, see their website. Rooms are large and beautifully decorated with round beds, but the room are not as large as at Villa Vertigo.
Locker room is spacious and clean with subdued lighting. I undressed and got on a nice shower and was ready to check out the lovely ladies.
I went for a walk around the club to check the atmosphere, got some food and drink, the food was good and the restaurant is nice and bright.
I met Mr. London Traveller at the bar near the entrance, the night before we were both at Oase but didn't met. We had many nice chats about the girls.
Girls I've fucked:
1. Round: Manage a trois with Madelaine and Dorothea.
Name: Madelaine.
Hair: Brunette.
Body / Cup Size: Normal, false C.
Nationality: Poland, Warsaw.
Age: 25.
Benefits: Adult Type, BJ.
Disadvantage: moaned too much.
Name: Dorothea.
Hair: Blond.
Body / Cup Size: slim, genuine B.
Nationality: Poland, Krakow.
Age: 22.
Pros: Very cute.
I was lying down, relaxing with a Coke in the "swingcouch" after some food. Two lovely naked girls with hot bodies were smiling and came towards me. I smiled and played cool.
They said Hello, and lay down on either side of me, we talked and stroked a little.
They were both from Poland, I have good experience with Polish girls. I told them I was at Oase yesterday and warned them I was wasted and that they have to hard work if they would have sex with me. They took it as a challenge and a little later we found a large room.
The nice thing about Sundays it was not crowded with bears, so I could pick and choose between the girls and decide which room we would take. Girls are also more relaxed.
I relaxed on the bed while the two lovely girls caressed and kissed me, Madelaine (porn chick) had my cock in her mouth while I had Dorothea breast on my face and sucked on them. I ordered Dorothea to sit on my face so I could lick her beautiful shaved pussy, Madelaine continued BJ, put the condom om and rode me strongly. It was really nice with two hot girls. I toppled Madelaine on her back and fucked her in missionary position, while Dorothea was close by with spread legs, spread pussy lips and playing with her pussy.
I was really turned on. I pumped hard Madelaine, while I enjoyed the sight of Dorothea lovely pussy, which I have just licked.
A quick condom change, and I took Dorothea in missionary position. She was also turned on and moaned nicely. Madelaine was behind me and pushed her tits against my back and
Whispered "fuck her hard!" and licked my ear while she caressed my balls. I fucked Dorothea deeper and harder, it was not long before I came with a huge bang. Both girls smiled and ware happy that they could get me to come because I had had much sex the day before.
This was like a hot scene from a porn movie with two girls. This time it was just me who was the pornstar. Brilliant and delicious.
As I said, I have had many good experiences with Polish girls and this experience was definitely one of them.
2. Round.
Name: Kimmi.
Hair: Blond.
Body / Cup Size: slim, B.
Nationality: Germany, Berlin.
Age: 27.
Advantages: great face, body and legs, good BJ.
After a rest in the sauna, I wanted to have sex again, this time it was me who was hunting. I saw a beautiful blonde from Berlin. I walked over to her and we talked, I thought she has approx. 22 years old but she said she was 27 years old. I said wow she looked good, she was really nice and sexy, so off we went. Her BJ was heavenly. Slow and deep with lots of eye contact, she could really please a man. Then I fucked her hard from behind and she said I should take it easy because she said: "I'm an old lady", hehehe. She was just joking. She was lovely and can clearly be recommended.
3. Round.
Name: Bella.
Hair: Blond,
Body / Cup Size: slim, genuine B.
Nationality: Germany, Hamburg.
Age: 22.
Pros: Very friendly and sweet, at least to me, beautiful GFE, non-smoking.
Bella is a beautiful German blonde, I was on swingcouch chatting with Mr. London Traveller, she came and lay beside me. We had a brief talk and the chemistry was clearly there,
I liked her and she was interested in me.
Bella was mega cute, we kissed and caressed in the room. I started with my favorite sport, DATY. She liked it, relaxed and became more and more turned on. Her juices tasted heavenly, cont. To 69 where I stayed on top, her French was good, she closed her eyes and enjoyed my cock slowly and sometimes she looked up to see if I also enjoyed it. I fuck her in missionary, from behind, her on the stomach position, I stretched her arms up and she pressed her hands against the wall while I fucked her hard from behind. She was really horny. I kissed and bit her gently her ear we were both turned on, I came with a huge orgasm deep inside her, I collapsed over her and had a condom filled with sperm inside her, she lay still with closed eyes and enjoyed it, I pulled out and we cleaned up.
Wow. Want a nice fuck, those who know me, knows I like longer sessions, typically an 1 hour or more. But this girl was so beautiful and horny that I came after approx. 25 min.
We kissed goodbye and went off. Several times she came over to tease me and asked when I had to catch my flight.
When I got dressed and was heading to the airport came Bella by to say goodbye with a good hug and kiss.
I wished her a Merry Christmas and promised to see her again next year.
4. Round.
Name:? I had forgotten it.
Hair: Blond.
Body / Cup Size: Normal, C cup.
Nationality: Hungary.
Age: 24.
Advantages: Nice and friendly.
As a bastard or a man, I am, I could not resist one last fuck before departing for the airport.
I knew that nothing could beat the session I had with Bella, but I was tempted by the sight of this beautiful Hungarian goddess. Beautiful blond model type of girl. I enjoyed her beautiful face and body and we had wonderful sex, but I had to admit that I tired and out of sperm.
This day at Palace was for me a "non-Romanian-girl" day and I fucked only blondes except Madelaine. Contrary the previous day at Oase where I fucked several Romanian girls.
There were many other beautiful girls at Palace that I would like to fuck, but I did not have the time to get into their panties (though they had no panties on).
It will be a next time. So many beautiful girls and so little time and money.
Home sweet home:
A quick shower, I got dressed and raced to the airport.
After the many lovely, intense sexual experiences I could not help but smiled all the time, I could not help looking and smiling at the girls in the airport while I waited for my flight.
I was wondering, I just had a lot of hot sex with many beautiful girls. Was it a fantasy or reality, yes guess yourself.
The flight was on time. Lucky enough I got home in time for a few days later, Frankfurt airport closed due to snow, if this were the case that I had to stay in Frankfurt, I would probably enjoy myself with the lovely girls at the Palace than waiting at the airport.
Thanks for reading.
PS: I'm always up to new adventures, I'll go to Moscow in very near future, so tips and advices are very welcome, please PM me, thanks.
Nille
Hessen Bub
01-03-11, 16:56
That's exactly what I tried to do, but the Obersturmbanfurer standing there stopped me, saying this was not allowed.Robes are free. So just ask the girl at the reception. And could you quit using Nazi terminology here?
HB
That's exactly what I tried to do, but the Obersturmbanfurer standing there stopped me, saying this was not allowed.
Robes are free. So just ask the girl at the reception. And could you quit using Nazi terminology here?
HBHmm- How about Bademantelfrauhauptmann?
No, not that pretty face or that inviting smile or that great attitude. And no, not her superb oral skills either. She has lost the weight! I saw her recently, and the weight loss was noticeable. In fact, she asked me if I recognized anything different about her, and I said yes it looks like you've lost some weight. She was quite pleased that I noticed.
I actually liked her better the other way. You see, I like a nice, round, onion on my snow bunnies. And that's just what she had too before she lost the weight. I told her baby it's OK if you lose weight, but please keep some weight on that booty for me! And you guys who were calling her fat please! She certainly wasn't rail thin, which I don't like, but she was far from being fat either!
Speaking of Gina's booty, she would turn me into a new man and make all my worries go away if she would just let me fuck her in that attractive, blue-eyed, blonde, Czech cornhole of hers just one time. But she's not having it! I've scoured the site to see if anybody has had any of that Gina butthole, but nobody is fessin' up if they have. It's being kept as a well-guarded secret, which is what I would jealously do if I'd had it. Hehehe! I'd pay extra for that A-hole and not tell you mongers so as not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off!
But, I always have a good time with Gina anyway. She sucks me off like a porno pro and makes me spew all in her mouth. Last time I spunked all over her beautiful white teeth she wanted to slap me a high five! She spit the jizz out into some tissues, but then she started making these harsh sounds with her mouth like she was trying to hock up a sperm loogey, and that just turned me on even more. To see such a pretty girl as Gina making such unlady-like sounds. I only want them to look like a lady. Not act like one when taking my cum between their cheeks and gums.
The only, only little negative thing I have on Gina is that one time when I was doggy-boning her I smelled a little bit of pussy and ass odor. Well, we can't all be squeaky clean down there 100% of the time can we? And even then, a part of me liked a girl that looks like Gina smelling like that. Made her seem just that more dirty and base. Besides, the smell wasn't overpowering. I'll fuck her again in a heartbeat and eat out her white pearl pussy and lick her asshole (again) too! But she will have to be squeaky clean then!
Basketcase
01-03-11, 20:44
Speaking of Gina's booty, she would turn me into a new man and make all my worries go away if she would just let me fuck her in that attractive, blue-eyed, blonde, Czech cornhole of hers just one time. But she's not having it! I've scoured the site to see if anybody has had any of that Gina butthole, but nobody is fessin' up if they have. It's being kept as a well-guarded secret, which is what I would jealously do if I'd had it. Hehehe! I'd pay extra for that A-hole and not tell you mongers so as not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off!
The only, only little negative thing I have on Gina is that one time when I was doggy-boning her I smelled a little bit of pussy and ass odor. Well, we can't all be clean down there 100% of the time can we? And even then, a part of me liked a girl that looks like Gina smelling like that. Made her seem just that more dirty and base. Besides, the smell wasn't overpowering. I'll fuck her again in a heartbeat and eat out her white pearl pussy and lick her asshole (again) too! Hi The Cane,
The blond blue eyed Gina that I know is German from Cologne. Gina (de) does perform anal sex.
I am not sure who Czech Gina is. Can you describe more about Czech Gina please?
Just do a search on "Gina" in this thread and you will see all kinds of comments about her. She's the best lookin' girl at Palace in my opinion and one of the prettiest I have had at any FKK. If only I could violate her butthole with my dick and not just my tongue. That would take it all over the top for me with Gina. LOL! I was all into her without even knowing she was so popular until after I had done her the first time. Some guys seemed to have lost interest in her calling her fat. Well, let it be known that she's dropped some pounds. I wish she hadn't. That would mean fewer guys humping away on her and putting excess mileage on her young hips!
Hessen Bub
01-03-11, 21:33
Gina is friends with Vanessa. She WAS one of the best looking girls at Palace 3 or 4 years ago. If she lost weight. Hhmm. Her service is no more than average.
HB
Gina is friends with Vanessa. She WAS one of the best looking girls at Palace 3 or 4 years ago. If she lost weight. Hhmm. Her service is no more than average.
HBI've found the overall best (dirtiest) and highest concentration of top performers to be at Oase from among the FKKs I have been to, but Palace has better facilities and food. And Palace has Gina who is a non-shark, at least with me, and so pretty. She looks like she could be a trophy wife. Only, she's out turning tricks and taking cum shots in the mouth. That turns me on about her. If you liked her better when she wasn't as heavy, then that Gina is back. Based on the descriptions of her service that I've read here, I'd have to say that seems to have remained consistent, with most mongers being at least satisfied with her, if not "blown away", so to speak.
Gina is friends with Vanessa. She WAS one of the best looking girls at Palace 3 or 4 years ago. If she lost weight. Hhmm. Her service is no more than average.
HBGina was no where near the best looking IMHO, in fact one of the fat bottom girls (to a guy who likes thinner girls). However I have been reliably (I hope) informed that Gina has lost a lot of weight quite recently, asuuming the girl didn't get names mixed up. I haven't actually attended for 3 months +.
Fleming's is a great place to stay, all their hotels in FFM.
HBFlemings is rather expensive. If you just need a bed to crash in, Ibis Frankfurt West is also quite close (5 mins walking distance in normal weather) but usually much cheaper.
I prefer to keep my money to spend on girls.
Then maybe it's because some girls also sleep at Artemis and therefore thay start working in the first shift.
Customers come in very early and say: "wow, there's girls also very early, I'll tell my friends on the forum."
Other girls say "Hey there's customers coming in also in the first shift, lets go work."
And everybody is happy!
Seriously, don't know what the story is, still. . .
Ciao! As HB said, quite a few girls from outside Frankfurt stay overnight in the Palace Hotel, in shared rooms. Some girls even have a bed + locker more or less permanently booked. Some of these girls may well be inclined to start in day shift.
Some girls prefer the late night time when there are too many customers and hunting becomes unnecessary.
Girls who start early are required to put in a minimum time shift although may get a break period.
If the club was full of customers in the day and not many girls, soon the news would spread to those nearby and they may decide to start earlier than originally planned.
One never really knows which girls will show, although some work fairly reliable known shifts when not on holidays.
If hardly any customers in the day, a girl might wish to leave and return later when gets busier. I am not sure what penalties might apply in this situation, or if is actually permitted.
I'd say she's only about a C. So if you need D's, then I guess Gina is not the girl for you.
Vito Corleone
01-04-11, 12:29
Hi The Cane,
The blond blue eyed Gina that I know is German from Cologne. Gina (de) does perform anal sex.
I am not sure who Czech Gina is. Can you describe more about Czech Gina please? You're joking right? You have mentioned her in many of your older posts & once mentioned she would be the perfect looking hot wife if you ever decided to get married (before she became a lard ass). I remember reading one of your reports where she conned you into trying her special GFE 100 euro 30 minute session which you wrote was not much different from her normal 30 minute 50 euro suck & fcuk sessions.
She still has a pretty face, but needs to lose 15 kilos. Been a month since I last seen her so maybe she has lost the weight.
Forzagermania
01-04-11, 18:59
Hi The Cane,
The blond blue eyed Gina that I know is German from Cologne. Gina (de) does perform anal sex.
I am not sure who Czech Gina is. Can you describe more about Czech Gina please? Hahaha. Czech Gina is the girl you where booking several times in 2008 at FKK Palace. The blonde beach babe from Prag. She's perhaps living in Germany but is not German at all.
Basketcase
01-04-11, 22:13
Just do a search on "Gina" in this thread and you will see all kinds of comments about her. She's the best lookin' girl at Palace in my opinion and one of the prettiest I have had at any FKK. If only I could violate her butthole with my dick and not just my tongue. That would take it all over the top for me with Gina. LOL! I was all into her without even knowing she was so popular until after I had done her the first time. Some guys seemed to have lost interest in her calling her fat. Well, let it be known that she's dropped some pounds. I wish she hadn't. That would mean fewer guys humping away on her and putting excess mileage on her young hips!I was on the train during rush hour chaos this morning going to work and then I was thinking for some silly reason,"Gina, Gina, Gina." Then I remembered who Czech Gina was. She is the fat arsed blond with the fake tits that lives on Majorca. Hahaha.
I do not recall ever drilling her arsehole myself. But yes, when she was slimmer she was very attractive. She got fat.
I was on the train during rush hour chaos this morning going to work and then I was thinking for some silly reason,"Gina, Gina, Gina." Then I remembered who Czech Gina was. She is the fat arsed blond with the fake tits that lives on Majorca. Hahaha.
I do not recall ever drilling her arsehole myself. But yes, when she was slimmer she was very attractive. She got fat.I remember Gina from my last visit. She told me she is from Czech and rarely goes back to home, I reckon business at Palace must have been tough for her. She has bleach blond hair that is length to half back. She does have love handles so that might cause some lads to lose interest. However, she is very sweet when I chat with her and she is not always pushy, at least to me.
I'm not sure if this was the sane Gina that everybody was referring to as the Shark when ever a Japanese bus tour got dropped off at the Palace. Sure doesn't seemed like a shark.
Basketcase
01-05-11, 21:22
I remember Gina from my last visit. She told me she is from Czech and rarely goes back to home, I reckon business at Palace must have been tough for her. She has bleach blond hair that is length to half back. She does have love handles so that might cause some lads to lose interest. However, she is very sweet when I chat with her and she is not always pushy, at least to me.
I'm not sure if this was the sane Gina that everybody was referring to as the Shark when ever a Japanese bus tour got dropped off at the Palace. Sure doesn't seemed like a shark. Yes, the Czech Gina that you know is the same Czech Gina that was referred to as ploughing through a bus load of Japanese customers.
Fishtaster
01-08-11, 01:55
From Frankfurt Airport to FKK-Palace?
Is the return the same cost?
I'll add more to this report when I get back home to the states. Tonight was good but shit there was nothing but sharks. I expected it from the really hot girls, but even the average and ugly girls were up selling as well. I've heard it more then once,"the romantic package" that gets you suck, fuck and dfk for 30 min and costing 100 euros.
At night I would say there was probably a max of 30-40 girls and a little less men throughout the night. IMO there was only about 7 girls with ratings of 8-9's. The hottest ones once again my own opinion were Cheyenne and Cierra (Sierra). Cierra was a little too tall for my liking so I fucked Cheyenne instead. She was nice but definitely an up seller.
I'm going to oase on Saturday so hopefully it is a lot better. BTW where can I buy a power plug converter? I didn't realize Germany uses the Siemens and not the 3 prong stuff we use in the US. I'm staying close to the main train station so if anyone knows something like a radio shack here that would be great.
I'll add more to this report when I get back home to the states. Tonight was good but shit there was nothing but sharks. I expected it from the really hot girls, but even the average and ugly girls were up selling as well. I've heard it more then once,"the romantic package" that gets you suck, fuck and dfk for 30 min and costing 100 euros.
At night I would say there was probably a max of 30-40 girls and a little less men throughout the night. IMO there was only about 7 girls with ratings of 8-9's. The hottest ones once again my own opinion were Cheyenne and Cierra (Sierra). Cierra was a little too tall for my liking so I fucked Cheyenne instead. She was nice but definitely an up seller.
I'm going to oase on Saturday so hopefully it is a lot better. BTW where can I buy a power plug converter? I didn't realize Germany uses the Siemens and not the 3 prong stuff we use in the US. I'm staying close to the main train station so if anyone knows something like a radio shack here that would be great. Across the street from the Excelsior and Monopol hotels, there are these pawn shop-like stores called Schmuck (jewelry) stores where they sell all kinds of junk, electronics included. They will definately have plug converters, and for very cheap. Also all kinds of cell phone batteries, cell phone chargers for any phone, all manner of gadgets and stuff. They have everything man. They are usually run buy turbaned Sikh guys. Just walk around the hauptbahnhof and you will find one. Do it today as they are closed Sundays.
Beffen, been there and done that
Across the street from the Excelsior and Monopol hotels, there are these pawn shop-like stores called Schmuck (jewelry) stores where they sell all kinds of junk, electronics included. They will definately have plug converters, and for very cheap. Also all kinds of cell phone batteries, cell phone chargers for any phone, all manner of gadgets and stuff. They have everything man. They are usually run buy turbaned Sikh guys. Just walk around the hauptbahnhof and you will find one. Do it today as they are closed Sundays.
Beffen, been there and done thatThanks I'll go check it out.
Hessen Bub
01-09-11, 00:21
Is the return the same cost?It sure is.
HB
Dandriller
01-09-11, 03:19
I arrived at Palace and 3:15 was written on my business time wrist band so I planned to have the scheduled sauna at 4pm.
I was hoping to find someone hot to fill in the time till the sauna.
There were not many girls that I was attracted to unfortunately.
At about 3:45pm I went to the restaurant and ran into Kelly from Senegal.
She remembered my face and after chatting for a while seemed to remember our previous session.
Now I was wondering whether she was remembering the hot part of the session or the end where things went a little cold.
She returned after going outside for a drink stating she now remembered everything.
This made me think she had quickly checked her diary to review notes she had made about our session.
I wonder if many girls do keep a record of good and bad sessions?
Anyway I excused myself while she finished her lunch so that I could go to the sauna.
After my sauna I was walking to the main showers dripping with sweat as the two showers near the sauna were busy and Kelly was sitting on the couch as I walked by.
I stopped and said I would shower and come and see her.
After I had showered she was nowhere to be found and I suspect she had decided to put a black mark against my name.
The strange thing was that she was very into me in that previous session, it just went a bit sour when I wanted to limit my spending by not going overtime.
A bit disappointing really because I am very attracted to her, as she seemed to be with me.
I sat around again but there didn't seem to be many hot girls.
I was approached by Mitzu from Japan who was very nice but her ass is not, and that is a deal breaker for me.
I went to the Kino and sat against the wall at the far corner enjoying the porno with my towel open and my cock standing up.
In came a very voluptuous brunette who playfully made some comments in German obviously about me sitting there alone with my cock standing up enjoying the porno.
She waited near the door and I decided to go back outside.
As I approached her she stopped me and when I told her I don't speak German she said she had told me I had a big cock and she had a small pussy.
I sat with her for a while and although I forget her name, she said she was half Brazilian, Egyptian, and was born in Germany.
She had tanned skin, luscious lips, huge pointy breasts and a great butt that protruded splendidly.
I was very tempted by her, but wondered if she was the shark that claims to be Egyptian.
She had my attention though and was happy to play around with me and her kisses were very hot as lips were full and soft.
I was still watching the porno while talking to her and the girl on the screen had a ring in her pussy lips and I commented that it was nice, so she showed me her pussy which had 3 pussy piercings that I could see.
I was very tempted by now, but I still was thinking about Kelly so I decided to tell her that I wanted to wait.
Outside, Kelly was nowhere to be seen and I had to leave at about 5 so I didn't have long as it was already 4:45pm.
I then ran into Marina from Cuba and was tempted by her as she is so sexy and we had a great session the last time.
I didn't have enough time to enjoy her properly so I decide to not to indulge.
As I was about to leave I saw Pum from Thailand and my jaw dropped as I find her one of the most attractive girls that I have ever seen at Palace and our previous session was also one of the hottest.
She disappeared with a client so that was the sign to leave and I departed at 5pm without one session.
She disappeared with a client so that was the sign to leave and I departed at 5pm without one session.Next time you would need to plan more time. Two hours in FFK. Way to short.
Hessen Bub
01-09-11, 16:11
I sat with her for a while and although I forget her name, she said she was half Brazilian, Egyptian, and was born in Germany.
She had tanned skin, luscious lips, huge pointy breasts and a great butt that protruded splendidly. That's Mercedes. She was at Oase before.
HB
Dandriller
01-09-11, 20:49
That's Mercedes. She was at Oase before.
HBThanks HB, I'll be sure to indulge the next time.
Basketcase
01-10-11, 22:25
I'll add more to this report when I get back home to the states. Tonight was good but shit there was nothing but sharks. I expected it from the really hot girls, but even the average and ugly girls were up selling as well. I've heard it more then once,"the romantic package" that gets you suck, fuck and dfk for 30 min and costing 100 euros.
The hottest ones once again my own opinion were Cheyenne and Cierra (Sierra). Cierra was a little too tall for my liking so I fucked Cheyenne instead. She was nice but definitely an up seller.
I'm going to oase on Saturday so hopefully it is a lot better. The "romantic package" is what some call "Wedding Night sex" but they want it for 50 and not 100 or more.
Shayenne / Cheyenne (de) is a good fuck but she wants the maximum compensation in return. Incidentally Shayenne spells it Shayenne and not Cheyenne.
How was Saturday at Oase?
I stayed at Flemings my most recent trip and was able to call it a business expense because I convinced the people paying that it was "near the airport" and I needed to catch an early flight. There were more expensive options as well as cheaper ones. I booked it on-line for US$104 or about 80. Flemings is clean, modern and closer to the Palace than the Ibis, where I stayed my previous visit. The Ibis is a little older and a bit shabby, but still not bad. Last time I stayed there it was about 60. If it was my own money, I would pay 10 more for Flemings, but probably not 20 more.
Has anybody stayed at the Fleming Hotel?
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=the
+palace. De&layer=see&sll=50. 127970, 8.626540&cid=13083396261049576277&cbp=13, 151. 52, 0.1. 13&cbll=50. 128029, 8.625923&hl=en&gl=ca&ie=UTF8&hq=the+palace. De&hnear=&ll=50. 128103, 8.626177&spn=0. 005385, 0.016512&z=17&panoid=Iu8zKtXCKVfnqGvHIqviHg
The "romantic package" is what some call "Wedding Night sex" but they want it for 50 and not 100 or more.
Shayenne / Cheyenne (de) is a good fuck but she wants the maximum compensation in return. Incidentally Shayenne spells it Shayenne and not Cheyenne.
How was Saturday at Oase? Unfortunately for me the romantic package was offered for 100 euros only. I went back to palace on Sunday and did one girl named Patricia from Moldovia. A hot blonde that said that the GFE package was for 100 euros. I told her fine but it must be for one hour or else just the regular package for 30 minutes. She said ok and began to give me a massage. Honestly though her GFE package sucks. It was more lfk then dfk. I had to fight my tongue into her mouth just to get some tongue action. Usually she was pretty much closed lipped. Her BJ sucked because it was CBJ. I can't believe I paid 100 euros for that. After that session I got fed up with palace, hopped on the subway and went directly to Oasis to spend the last hours of my vacation.
Basketcase
01-11-11, 22:58
Unfortunately for me the romantic package was offered for 100 euros only. I went back to palace on Sunday and did one girl named Patricia from Moldovia. A hot blonde that said that the GFE package was for 100 euros. I told her fine but it must be for one hour or else just the regular package for 30 minutes. She said ok and began to give me a massage. Honestly though her GFE package sucks. It was more lfk then dfk. I had to fight my tongue into her mouth just to get some tongue action. Usually she was pretty much closed lipped. Her BJ sucked because it was CBJ. I can't believe I paid 100 euros for that. After that session I got fed up with palace, hopped on the subway and went directly to Oasis to spend the last hours of my vacation.Hi Bluat,
Exactly. The bears want Wedding Night Sex or the Romantic Package for 50 but the girls will not do it for less than 100. Something has to give.
I like the Wedding Night Sex package and sometimes you just have to pay for it. You pays your money and take your chances on what you get. This is why it is called punting.
Vito Corleone
01-12-11, 01:25
Shayenne / Cheyenne (de) is a good fuck but she wants the maximum compensation in return. Incidentally Shayenne spells it Shayenne and not Cheyenne.She spells it Shayen, but who really gives a crap how she spells it. I think she provides a great BJ & fcuks like a porn star. It was your fault for not managing the clock & going over time by 5 minutes.
If you bang her for 20 minutes, then talk for an extra 25 minutes to gather as much info as possible so you can later post it on this forum so everyone can mention how great you are for providing this info, she expects to get paid for 1hour.
Hi everyone,
I will have a long layover in Frankfurt at the end of February. I have been to the Palace once about 3 years ago and I've also been to Artemis in Berlin 3 times. I will have probably 4-5 hours to venture outside the Frankfurt airport and I was wondering if anyone had a recommendation between Palace and Oase for a visit. From reading comments it looks like the selection at Palace has not been as good perhaps. I recall Palace not being too far of a taxi ride from the airport. Is Oase reasonably close to the airport or is it too far for a taxi? My stopover will be in the morning / early afternoon if that makes any difference.
Thanks for any advice.
Hi Bluat,
Exactly. The bears want Wedding Night Sex or the Romantic Package for 50 but the girls will not do it for less than 100. Something has to give.
I like the Wedding Night Sex package and sometimes you just have to pay for it. You pays your money and take your chances on what you get. This is why it is called punting.For me it's not a matter of cost. More like it destroys the illusion of intimacy. I understand that she's a working girl and I'm a John, but still I like to have a little illusion of intimacy. Once she starts trying to sell her services while sucking my dick it takes away all forms of that illusion. If the GFE is 100 euros then fine have the club change their policies to state that fucking, bbj and DFK is 100 euros and not 50 euros. I personally do not want to talk about money while in a room with a girl. If I want to cum in her mouth or fuck her in the ass then I will tell her so. Otherwise just assume it's the regular package and just give it your all for that. At Oase, other then with Bianca, I never had to talk about price and got the GFE package I wanted for only 50 euros.
Will I ever go to Palace again? Sure but only because I personally think Sheyenne and Cierra are the hottest girls I've ever seen, and at Oase no girl that I've seen thus far is as hot as they are. Oase does have alot of hot girls but I'm not sure I've seen anyone there that is better looking. Chances are there are just as many hot or hotter girls but they are probably on vacation still. I'm heading back in a couple of months so I'll have a better idea then when all the lineups are close to full.
She spells it Shayen, but who really gives a crap how she spells it. I think she provides a great BJ & fcuks like a porn star. It was your fault for not managing the clock & going over time by 5 minutes.
If you bang her for 20 minutes, then talk for an extra 25 minutes to gather as much info as possible so you can later post it on this forum so everyone can mention how great you are for providing this info, she expects to get paid for 1hour.I don't think that's what he said. For her, and pretty much any girl at Palace, it's 100 euros for GFE whether for 30 min or 1 HR. 50 euros only gets you fuck and suck, no dfk. Obviously it's different for everyone but chances are if you're going to this club for the first time and have not built a business relationship that negotiated 50 euros for all inclusive then expect to pay 100 euros for a GFE package.
After being away for over five years I returned to the Palace. After checking in at Flemings, which was under construction my last visit, I walked to the Palace and found that a few things had changed.
First, the entry fee is now 75. The selection was a bit more limited than my previous visit, but the women who were there were more aggressive. Now I know first hand about all the posts regarding sharks. A younger woman from Columbia and an older woman from Spain approached me and were quite direct. Their names I don't recall. Not exactly what I was looking for that evening, and off they went in a huff.
Then I was approached by a redhead with shapely legs and perky natural breasts named Athena. She was pleasant and I liked her attitude. However, all that changed when we went back into the room. Immediately she began to upsell me to 100 and wanted me to come on her tits. I wasn't interested in either of those. After we could not make a meeting of the minds, I got up and walked out. She followed me, and there was a misunderstanding.
I paid her 50 and went back out to the center of the dance floor. There I made my way to a tall, severe looking honey blonde woman named Denise from Czech. We made small talk and then agreed to go back for a 50 fuck and suck. However, when we got back to the room she also tried to upsell me. I told her that all I had left was 95. For that price, we were able to go beyond the standard fuck and sucksome DATY, a little assplay, but not much more. Mostly the extra 45 got me a little extra time and conversation after finishing. I objected but she insisted and I backed down. Oh well.
Then I tried to use the ATM and got my card stuck in there. After three attempts, the card was rejected and I think that the universe was telling me something. It was 2 am By that time and I had an 8 am Flight to catch, so I went back to Flemings, caught a few hours sleep, and got up the next morning.
Would I go back to the Palace? You bet. However, I would be more savvy and better prepared. It was not the incredible experience I had the first time. The earlier post is only of historical value. It is not the same place, really.
After being away for over five years I returned to the Palace. After checking in at Flemings, which was under construction my last visit, I walked to the Palace and found that a few things had changed.
First, the entry fee is now 75. The selection was a bit more limited than my previous visit, but the women who were there were more aggressive. Now I know first hand about all the posts regarding sharks. A younger woman from Columbia and an older woman from Spain approached me and were quite direct. Their names I don't recall. Not exactly what I was looking for that evening, and off they went in a huff.
Then I was approached by a redhead with shapely legs and perky natural breasts named Athena. She was pleasant and I liked her attitude. However, all that changed when we went back into the room. Immediately she began to upsell me to 100 and wanted me to come on her tits. I wasn't interested in either of those. After we could not make a meeting of the minds, I got up and walked out. She followed me, and there was a misunderstanding.
I paid her 50 and went back out to the center of the dance floor. There I made my way to a tall, severe looking honey blonde woman named Denise from Czech. We made small talk and then agreed to go back for a 50 fuck and suck. However, when we got back to the room she also tried to upsell me. I told her that all I had left was 95. For that price, we were able to go beyond the standard fuck and sucksome DATY, a little assplay, but not much more. Mostly the extra 45 got me a little extra time and conversation after finishing. I objected but she insisted and I backed down. Oh well.
Then I tried to use the ATM and got my card stuck in there. After three attempts, the card was rejected and I think that the universe was telling me something. It was 2 am By that time and I had an 8 am Flight to catch, so I went back to Flemings, caught a few hours sleep, and got up the next morning.
Would I go back to the Palace? You bet. However, I would be more savvy and better prepared. It was not the incredible experience I had the first time. The earlier post is only of historical value. It is not the same place, really.I hope this trend isn't a sign of things to come. Right now Oase for the most part is 50 euros but if the girls find out that the Palace girls are getting 100 euros consistently then maybe they begin to change their policies.
Hessen Bub
01-12-11, 19:52
Unfortunately for me the romantic package was offered for 100 euros only. I went back to palace on Sunday and did one girl named Patricia from Moldovia. A hot blonde that said that the GFE package was for 100 euros.She's Romanian and came from Paradise (the one in Leinfelden-Echterdingen).
HB
Hessen Bub
01-12-11, 19:53
I like the Wedding Night Sex package and sometimes you just have to pay for it. You pays your money and take your chances on what you get. This is why it is called punting.But not more than 50 EUR per 30 min. My best sessions were for the regular price. Forget the sharks.
HB
Viannossers
01-12-11, 21:49
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http://rootlogin.ru/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=531
Hi everyone,
Is Oase reasonably close to the airport or is it too far for a taxi? My stopover will be in the morning / early afternoon if that makes any difference.
Thanks for any advice. According to Google Maps it's about 30km from the airport.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Frankfurt+am+Main+Flughafen+Fernbahnhof, +Frankfurt+am+Main, +Deutschland&daddr=Ober-Erlenbacher+Stra%C3%9Fe+109, +61381+Friedrichsdorf-Burgholzhausen, +Deutschland&geocode=FS_A-wIdScWCACmVspZNlQq9RzElgHQdDbwKQA%3BFS6j_gIdrGCEACkbYZnj7Qa9RzFITiAXD7TVjg&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=50. 134664, 8.599548&sspn=0. 414599, 1.347198&ie=UTF8&ll=50. 048321, 8.242493&spn=0. 830688, 2.694397&t=h&z=9
I hope this helps.
BetoDelFuego
01-13-11, 10:30
According to Google Maps it's about 30km from the airport.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Frankfurt+am+Main+Flughafen+Fernbahnhof, +Frankfurt+am+Main, +Deutschland&daddr=Ober-Erlenbacher+Stra%C3%9Fe+109, +61381+Friedrichsdorf-Burgholzhausen, +Deutschland&geocode=FS_A-wIdScWCACmVspZNlQq9RzElgHQdDbwKQA%3BFS6j_gIdrGCEACkbYZnj7Qa9RzFITiAXD7TVjg&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=50. 134664, 8.599548&sspn=0. 414599, 1.347198&ie=UTF8&ll=50. 048321, 8.242493&spn=0. 830688, 2.694397&t=h&z=9
I hope this helps. Thanks for the info on distance. Anyone have a rough guess on what that means for taxi fair? I'm trying to decide where ai ought to go from the airport. Sounds like Palace is closer, but Oase is better.
Tiradentes
01-13-11, 10:42
Thanks for the info on distance. Anyone have a rough guess on what that means for taxi fair? I'm trying to decide where ai ought to go from the airport. Sounds like Palace is closer, but Oase is better.From airport to Palace, ballpark # shouldn't be more than 35-40 Euros.
(it is 25 Euros from airport to city's center, and another 10 Euros from center to palace).
After 5 visits to Palace within a year span, I find the major issue is the lack of working girls. Seems to me they only show up when the Auto show is in town. Other times, the palace is more like a desert.
Thanks for the info on distance. Anyone have a rough guess on what that means for taxi fair? I'm trying to decide where ai ought to go from the airport. Sounds like Palace is closer, but Oase is better.Why don't you take the public transport to Bad Hamburg and taxi to Oase. It's really cost effective.
Why don't you take the public transport to Bad Hamburg and taxi to Oase. It's really cost effective.Or to Friedrichsdorf
BetoDelFuego
01-13-11, 19:05
Why don't you take the public transport to Bad Hamburg and taxi to Oase. It's really cost effective.Good point! Also, for folks who might be looking for similar info later, Shark16 posted some awesome transportation / hotel info over in the Oase thread. Here's a link:
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1112034&viewfull=1#post1112034
Basketcase
01-13-11, 22:54
I hope this trend isn't a sign of things to come. Right now Oase for the most part is 50 euros but if the girls find out that the Palace girls are getting 100 euros consistently then maybe they begin to change their policies.There are already girls moving from oase to palace. So it is happening.
Basketcase
01-14-11, 00:44
I will have probably 4-5 hours to venture outside the Frankfurt airport and I was wondering if anyone had a recommendation between Palace and Oase for a visit. From reading comments it looks like the selection at Palace has not been as good perhaps. I recall Palace not being too far of a taxi ride from the airport. Is Oase reasonably close to the airport or is it too far for a taxi? My stopover will be in the morning / early afternoon if that makes any difference.
Thanks for any advice. From my experience the line up expected at either Oase or Palace is pretty much evens in terms of what you get. Early in the morning you do not get the absolute stunners thta work the evening shift. You get more the homely types or hobby huren, which is moreso the case at Oase than at Palace.
Oase early morning is a desert to quote a reference made already. Palace can be too but I think my short list at Palace would be longer at Palace than Oase when it comes to looks selection.
From my experience the line up expected at either Oase or Palace is pretty much evens in terms of what you get. Early in the morning you do not get the absolute stunners thta work the evening shift. You get more the homely types or hobby huren, which is moreso the case at Oase than at Palace.
Oase early morning is a desert to quote a reference made already. Palace can be too but I think my short list at Palace would be longer at Palace than Oase when it comes to looks selection.Thanks for the valuable feedback! I think if I were there in the evening as I normally prefer then maybe I might try Oase. However, since I'll be there from probably 10AM. 2PM it sounds like there might be a better chance of attractive girls at Palace.
Asia Tourist
01-15-11, 01:35
Just got back from the Palace on a Friday night. Here's the trip report.
Got there about at 7pm and the place wasn't too crowded. Standard EUR 75 entry, wrist band, etc. Place hasn't changed much since the last time I was there about a year ago. It was way too hot when I first got there, and different parts of the club smelled like body odor and bad pussy. Eventually they turned the temperature down a bit (thank goodness) , or I guess I just got used to the smell.
First, I had read reports about the "new" GFE 100 EUR package that a lot of sharks have been pushing. I am sad to confirm it is largely true. It somewhat ruins the rhythm when you're in the room and I don't fully understand how they came up with that pricing. An extra 25 EUR for GFE maybe, but see'mon, doubling the price? No thank you. I went with the "normal" 50 EUR service and couldn't be happier. I recommend everybody go with this as well, or before you know it you'll see session inflation across the board. (It's probably newbies who don't know better ponying up those 100s.) I recommend discussing specifics before you go into the room, so there's no misunderstanding about what exactly you're looking for.
Second, if you like Elke's massages (I think she's *amazing* and gives excellent massages. Where else can you get a full body rubdown, an hour session, for 60 EUR? It was so good I tipped her a 20) you should book early early early. I went in and the first slot I got was 10 pm; when I was getting my massage poor bastards were coming in wanting a session but the next earliest was 2. 30am! Elke is stronger / better in my opinion, and her massage station is not directly in front of the door. It must be annoying for the other masseuse to constantly stop and instruct people who wander in what to do and how to check the schedule.
Third, I was very impressed with the lineup. Okay, tonight was ridiculously packed because I guess some fabric convention was in town, but there were smoking blondes *everywhere, from Germany (Kiara) , Moldova (Patricia) , Poland (forgot their names) , Romania? (Jessica). My first session was with Jessica. Don't remember where she was from. Because I am a sick bastard, I paid the extra 50 EUR to drop a load in her mouth, which I always do with my first session. Great BBBJ, good mish and doggy session, and then I loved the final BBBJ with overflowing. Definitely worth the extra 50 EUR in my book. Next I did Patricia (who wears this nice, sexy red fishnet thing on her shoulders) , another good session. Got a massage (perfect to relax and unwind) , and then had to fight to get another final session. There must have been 200 guys in the end!
So overall, I continue to be impressed with Palace. It's a nice, high quality club, the lineup was impressive, the GFE hard sell is annoying but you just have to hold your ground. And remember to book your massage early if you're into those things.
Hessen Bub
01-15-11, 12:41
extra 25 EUR for GFE maybe, No, never ever!
Next I did Patricia (who wears this nice, sexy red fishnet thing on her shoulders) , another good session. Got a massage (perfect to relax and unwind) , and then had to fight to get another final session. There must have been 200 guys in the end! She came from Paradise, Stuttgart. And she's one of the "100 EUR for GFE 30 min" girls. Wonder that you did get a decent session out of her.
HB
Asia Tourist
01-15-11, 14:04
Hessen Bob, you are far more learned and wise than us newbies. You are absolutely right. Never ever!
I stuck to my guns and only engaged in the 50 EUR "regular" sessions, obviously to the dismay of the sharks pushing for the extras, and encourage all my fellow mongerers to do the same. It's sometimes challenging with the tough sell, but if we don't do it, it will soon become the norm!
And yes, you are right. Patricia was one of those pushing for the extras but did not complain when I said no. She gives a wicked blowjob and I'm a sucker for those who really know how to suck cock. I'm also ashamed to admit that I exploded a bit earlier than I'm used to while pounding her doggy style. She likes doggy, talking dirty, looking at herself in the mirror, and she has this ridiculous body and tight heart-shaped ass. I could not help myself, and while I wished I enjoyed it a bit longer, I left with a wicked grin on my face.
I hope to check out Palace again before I leave (and different women of course) and will report back with anything new I find.
Just got back from the Palace on a Friday night. Here's the trip report.
Got there about at 7pm and the place wasn't too crowded. Standard EUR 75 entry, wrist band, etc. Place hasn't changed much since the last time I was there about a year ago. It was way too hot when I first got there, and different parts of the club smelled like body odor and bad pussy. Eventually they turned the temperature down a bit (thank goodness) , or I guess I just got used to the smell.
First, I had read reports about the "new" GFE 100 EUR package that a lot of sharks have been pushing. I am sad to confirm it is largely true. It somewhat ruins the rhythm when you're in the room and I don't fully understand how they came up with that pricing. An extra 25 EUR for GFE maybe, but see'mon, doubling the price? No thank you. I went with the "normal" 50 EUR service and couldn't be happier. I recommend everybody go with this as well, or before you know it you'll see session inflation across the board. (It's probably newbies who don't know better ponying up those 100s.) I recommend discussing specifics before you go into the room, so there's no misunderstanding about what exactly you're looking for.
Second, if you like Elke's massages (I think she's *amazing* and gives excellent massages. Where else can you get a full body rubdown, an hour session, for 60 EUR? It was so good I tipped her a 20) you should book early early early. I went in and the first slot I got was 10 pm; when I was getting my massage poor bastards were coming in wanting a session but the next earliest was 2. 30am! Elke is stronger / better in my opinion, and her massage station is not directly in front of the door. It must be annoying for the other masseuse to constantly stop and instruct people who wander in what to do and how to check the schedule.
Third, I was very impressed with the lineup. Okay, tonight was ridiculously packed because I guess some fabric convention was in town, but there were smoking blondes *everywhere, from Germany (Kiara) , Moldova (Patricia) , Poland (forgot their names) , Romania? (Jessica). My first session was with Jessica. Don't remember where she was from. Because I am a sick bastard, I paid the extra 50 EUR to drop a load in her mouth, which I always do with my first session. Great BBBJ, good mish and doggy session, and then I loved the final BBBJ with overflowing. Definitely worth the extra 50 EUR in my book. Next I did Patricia (who wears this nice, sexy red fishnet thing on her shoulders) , another good session. Got a massage (perfect to relax and unwind) , and then had to fight to get another final session. There must have been 200 guys in the end!
So overall, I continue to be impressed with Palace. It's a nice, high quality club, the lineup was impressive, the GFE hard sell is annoying but you just have to hold your ground. And remember to book your massage early if you're into those things.Did Patricia give you a BBJ or a CBJ? When I did her last weekend she only gave me a CBJ.
Asia Tourist
01-17-11, 00:38
Showed up on a Sunday after the textile fair. It was understandably quieter but I liked that, and the girls were pretty sparse too (about 25-30 total)? Personally, after witnessing what a zoo Palace can become Friday night (with 200+ people cramming into the place and 3 couples trying to pounce on a room as soon as it freed up) , this was a nice change of pace. Thankfully the awful body odor smell was largely gone too, and they propped up a door open in the back which let in some much needed cool air and circulation.
The lineup was pretty good for a Sunday night. Went on a blonde bender again. I know this is a generalist, ridiculous statement, but I always like the native German girls. Okay they might not be the most stunning, or the warmest, or the most flirty, or whatever, but they're generally very pretty and you know you'll get decent service with no fuss or bullshit. First session was with Kiara (clearly a stage name) , a pretty tall German blonde from Berlin. She also has a nice German friend (forgot her name) but I didn't get a chance to try her out. I'd recommend you guys take that for a spin. Kiara had no upsell, no BS, was clear what she offered, and I just good old fashioned BBBJ and service. She wanted to leave her heels on. Clever girl. And that whole look while pounding her from behind was just too much! Second session was Jessica (again). She's just very cute with big eyes and she remembered our Friday session, so what the hell? She timidly tried the 50 EUR "extra" package but I quickly shot that down. No problem. I got a massage from the other girl (not Elke). It was massively annoying because these idiots keep walking in and asking "can I get a massage" which pauses your session because she has to stop, explain what's going on, go outside and respond and show the clipboard, etc. The morons can't read the sign and just sign up at the next available session? Anyways, she's prettier and has "softer" hands but I guess it doesn't matter since your eyes are closed most of the massage. I actually like harder massages better. Overall it was pretty good but I'd go with Elke because of a higher quality rub-down and because you don't have multiple interruptions during your session.
Finally, this tiny, ridiculously thin blonde started dancing (she wears these bright red heels). Curiosity killed the cat because she looked amazing and knew how to move. Turns out her stage name is Diane or something ridiculously Western like that and she's from Moldova. I mean, if you're not into super skinny girls you won't like her, but it seems like you can circle her waist with two of your hands. She's that thin. Anyways, this girl knows how to suck cock. Best BBBJ out of both Palace sessions and yesterday's Oase session. And penetrating her feels ridiculous because it seems like something should "break" given how thin she is. I actually had to stop after going at it doggy style because I was exhausted and it felt like I was having a heart attack. I am getting old and pathetic and couldn't even finish, but this girl is a keeper methinks.
Anyways, happy mongering. You can't go wrong at this place.
Asia Tourist
01-17-11, 23:10
Finally, this tiny, ridiculously thin blonde started dancing (she wears these bright red heels). Curiosity killed the cat because she looked amazing and knew how to move. Turns out her stage name is Diane or something ridiculously Western like that and she's from Moldova.I just remembered. It was "Denise", not Diane. Mmm.
Forzagermania
01-18-11, 00:11
Hey,
After a crowded night in Oase on Saturday went to Palace on Sunday 16. 01. After the textile-messe from last week the club was still filled with a pretty good line-up. In the afternoon aprox 20 girls in the evening growing to 30-35, which is good for a Sunday.
Enjoyed the breakfast and sauna-sessions from the Saunameister.
First session with Kiara (Germany). Beautifull blonde from Berlin. 27 yo. I knew her already from previous visits. For me she is the perfect girl, stunning body and no-nonsence service, very clear about prices which are fair and without GFE-extra charges. Great DFK and BBBJ. Did book her 1/2 hour with CIM finish. The 100 were spent very well.
2nd session with Lina from Czech Rep. Mid twenties, blond, nice breasts. She is very experienced and knows which buttons to touch. This girl knows how to give a blowjob. Wanted to book her 1 hour which did cost me 150 included CIM.
3rd session with a girl I did see many times in Oase but is working in Palace since November: Dora from Russia who is now brunette. Very elegant girl and also a great session with nice DFK and BBBJ. She holds on her pink heels while fucking. Good sessions 1/2 hour for 50.
Palace has made a good impression on a relative quiet day. I will repeat soon.
Grtz,
FG
Basketcase
01-18-11, 01:42
After a crowded night in Oase on Saturday went to Palace on Sunday 16. 01.
First session with Kiara (Germany). Beautifull blonde from Berlin. 27 yo. I knew her already from previous visits. For me she is the perfect girl, stunning body and no-nonsence service, very clear about prices which are fair and without GFE-extra charges. Great DFK and BBBJ. Did book her 1/2 hour with CIM finish. The 100 were spent very well.
2nd session with Lina from Czech Rep. Mid twenties, blond, nice breasts. She is very experienced and knows which buttons to touch. This girl knows how to give a blowjob. Wanted to book her 1 hour which did cost me 150 included CIM.
3rd session with a girl I did see many times in Oase but is working in Palace since November: Dora from Russia who is now brunette. Very elegant girl and also a great session with nice DFK and BBBJ. She holds on her pink heels while fucking. Good sessions 1/2 hour for 50. Hi Forzagermania,
Nice report from Palace on 16 January on a Sunday after the debauchery of Oase during the Textile messe. It seems that you were there on the same day that Asia Tourist was at Palace and Asia Tourist was also at Oase the same Saturday that you were there. LOL.
Kiara (de) sounds lovely. She looks like a bikini or lingerie model. So good.
I still have not gone to the room with Lina (CZ) she does not give me the opportunity to go with me. It is a bit like how Vivian does not go with London Traveller and how Vivian plays the runaround with Qubei, but Qubei bags Vivian in the end. I hear many good things about Lina (CZ) blowjob and your report confirms it further that I need to have my cock in her mouth.
Dora (ru) moving from Oase to Palace further confirms that the money is at Palace. It is rare thing, if at all, to see a Palace girl move to Oase but we seem to see more Oase girls moving to Palace. Dora must be a sexy sight as she hods her high heels in th eair as you fuck her missionary. Very porno.
I trust you also had a great time at Oase?
I have been a couple of times at the GoldenTime in Brόggen and often I go to Globe in Zurich.
Now I would like to try something new.
I am undecided between the Palace in Frankfurt and the Artemis in Berlin.
I read that line-up in Palace is better than in Artemis; also I read that girls performance in Artemis are, however, better than in Palace.
What experience do you have had in these clubs?
Suller Joe
01-27-11, 04:42
What can you tell me about the thai woman in her 30's? Normal build and has fairly large tits that look natural. I perceived her as relatively tanned. She has a fairly big tattoo on her back, but it doesn't cover all of her back. Suspect she has a child as she wore kind of a a belly-cover and had defined nipples. She did not actively look for business, but waited on the couch. Didn't come across as very happy / funny, but that may be just that day. She is definetely not DeeDee, Lucky, Phum or Bee. I am not sure, but I'd say her face is average while her body might be great or stunning, at least for her age.
Tell me about her.
What can you tell me about the thai woman in her 30's? Normal build and has fairly large tits that look natural. I perceived her as relatively tanned. She has a fairly big tattoo on her back, but it doesn't cover all of her back. Suspect she has a child as she wore kind of a a belly-cover and had defined nipples. She did not actively look for business, but waited on the couch. Didn't come across as very happy / funny, but that may be just that day. She is definetely not DeeDee, Lucky, Phum or Bee. I am not sure, but I'd say her face is average while her body might be great or stunning, at least for her age.
Tell me about her. Hi.
Her name is Bee and she is the best girl I ever fucked at Palace and she is 100% GFE.
Her tits are fake, but its hard to see.
BL
I read that line-up in Palace is better than in Artemis; also I read that girls performance in Artemis are, however, better than in Palace.You are dealing with too gross generalisations here, don't you think? What is better or best is such a subjective issue, and never can you, with a sweep of your hand, say the girls' performance in one club will be better than the performance in another club, at least if you are comparing Artemis and Berlin.
I've just come back from Palace (and other clubs) and I can safely tell you that if you select properly, you will find top-notch sessions with top looking girls at Palace. But this is true of every club I've ever been too: Just like a supermarket offering like products of different brands, getting the best value totally depends on which brand you try, and the assessments of which brand is better will vary from consumer to consumer.
Best to start with the assumption that both Artemis and Palace offer equal opportunities for successfull and non-successfull sessions. It's up to you and your ability to work the room and find the right ones for you. I bet you can have an equally good time at both, if you play YOUR game correctly.
O
Hessen Bub
01-27-11, 07:53
Her name is Bee and she is the best girl I ever fucked at Palace and she is 100% GFE.
BLYes, that's Bee. Good service. Yes. Best girl ever fucked at Palace. No. And she's everything else but new, she's been around a few years.
HB
I was many times in artemis. I was only for 90 minutes in palace and everything was dissapointing for me. Starting from taking 12 euros commision from me for giving me 150 out a euro deposit bank account from their machine without telling me. (and noone wrote it here before) , from finding that that session of 50 euros is not the same like 60 euros in artemis. Because you have to pay for GFE, so you have to negotiate before going to room. Which is not nice for me and its like making bargains. Then. This very small pool that is only for kids that want to play with their toy boats. No water massage, and not seperate from the lounge like in artemis that is in different floor. No smoking bar. Only closed lounges (this is not a problem for me I don't smoke) , I was before 20. 00 there so I can't tell if the lineup is better than in artemis. The only thing that I enjoyed and artemis doesn't have for free is the steam room. I go alone to the FKKs and facilities are important for me. Like nice girls that can chat for you and don't only try to take you in the room in 1 minute. I had to leave early but I would leave anyway after one session.
Yes, that's Bee. Good service. Yes. Best girl ever fucked at Palace. No. And she's everything else but new, she's been around a few years.
HBWell it possibly isn't Bee since Suller Joe indicated he knew Bee already and suggested that the back tatoo was not as large as Bee's. Otherwise the description seems to fit Bee perfectly in every way except for "newness". So I am slightly confused.
Bee is very tanned right now after returning from holidays.
We should ask Bee if she now has a clone or copycat? ;)
Suller Joe
01-28-11, 22:55
Hi.
Her name is Bee.
BLNo. I am *NOT* talking about Bee. 100% sure and I mean it. I saw them there at the same time for starters. This "new" girl is not as cute as Bee and her tattoo is smaller. I do not think it was symmetric, I. E. More on her left shoulder than on the right. She did not get so much traffic. She is more tanned than Bee, at least right now. Probably 30 years old. Carried her hair in a knot & I'd say her breasts are natural and by some margin bigger than any of the other thais. I do not know, but she might be a firestorm. She is not overweight, but I'd say her hips are the widest of any of the slimmer thais I have seen at Palace. Really nice "real woman"-figure from behind, side and front. At least from some distance. Candidate for best thai body ever on Palace. Although (again) I did not see her up close, she is a candidate.
To give another example, some guys might think she is Mitsu, although Mitsu is probably a tad younger.
Hessen Bub
01-29-11, 19:28
Michelle? No idea.
If you want to fuck a real pornstar for 50, go to Palace: Kada Love is there.
http://www.kada-love.com
HB
If you want to fuck a real pornstar for 50, go to Palace: Kada Love is there.
http://www.kada-love.com
HBAre you going to fuck her, HB? In der Arse? Just curious if she's your type.
Hessen Bub
01-29-11, 21:07
You're right, she's not exactly my type. Nevertheless I did fuck her. And it was a good session for 50, although shi does not kiss. Good hardcore action, didn't go for hershey highway. I'd never promote a girl that hasn't passed the HB-certifuckation.
HB
Hessen Bub
01-29-11, 21:20
Maybe somebody cares: Alice, DomRep is back, wearing a brand new tattoo. Still so sweet and bitchy.
HB
Suller Joe
01-29-11, 21:38
Maybe somebody cares: Alice, DomRep is back, wearing a brand new tattoo. Still so sweet and bitchy.
HBYes! That is magnificent news, thank you. She used to run a 10 days on & 20 days off schedule. More or less. Any update on that would be interesting.
No. I am *NOT* talking about Bee. 100% sure and I mean it. I saw them there at the same time for starters. This "new" girl is not as cute as Bee and her tattoo is smaller. I do not think it was symmetric, I. E. More on her left shoulder than on the right. She did not get so much traffic. She is more tanned than Bee, at least right now. Probably 30 years old. Carried her hair in a knot & I'd say her breasts are natural and by some margin bigger than any of the other thais. I do not know, but she might be a firestorm. She is not overweight, but I'd say her hips are the widest of any of the slimmer thais I have seen at Palace. Really nice "real woman"-figure from behind, side and front. At least from some distance. Candidate for best thai body ever on Palace. Although (again) I did not see her up close, she is a candidate.
To give another example, some guys might think she is Mitsu, although Mitsu is probably a tad younger. I promise to find out who it is for you very shortly, assuming she still works there.
Originally Posted by Hungrystud101 "I think I will skip Palace as I am a fan of GFE"
I know what you mean. A year ago friendly sex with no extras was 50 euro for 30 mins, now the girls are charging extra for friendly sex = 100 euro for 30 mins, the alternative being unfriendly sex.
Dear PALACE What has happened in the last year to justify a 100% increase in price? Has the recession ended there) The alternative being 50 euro for 30 min of unfriendly sex, where the girls will try and stop you touching them during sex. Gee! Unfriendly sex sounds great. The only option I can see is Oase FKK.
Cheers Nickc.
Originally Posted by Hungrystud101 "I think I will skip Palace as I am a fan of GFE"
I know what you mean. A year ago friendly sex with no extras was 50 euro for 30 mins, now the girls are charging extra for friendly sex = 100 euro for 30 mins, the alternative being unfriendly sex.
Dear PALACE What has happened in the last year to justify a 100% increase in price? Has the recession ended there) The alternative being 50 euro for 30 min of unfriendly sex, where the girls will try and stop you touching them during sex. Gee! Unfriendly sex sounds great. The only option I can see is Oase FKK.
Cheers Nickc. Hey, what's wrong with you guys? I was in Palace about 10 days ago and had several GFE sessions without having to pay extra charges. There's a large field of girls working at Palace, so if you cannot winnow out the GFE-providers (and let me assure you they are there at Palace just like at every club!) from the shark-like or processer-type girls (and let me assure you they are equally present at Palace just like at every club!) then you need to look at your own approach and selection performance rather than, with a wave of the hand, condemn the whole club and line-up as the "House of Sharks."
It was extremely evident to me that early in 2011, even though Palace is still fairly busy with male guests, the girls are not getting enough business generally. This is where we guys seeking good session performance and / or so-called "GFEs" from the girls can indeed thrive and use this slow economy to our advantage. For example, talk to the girl you are interested in and sound her out. Tell her what you are looking for and what you are NOT looking for. Make it known to the girl that you want a good session with x, why and z, and if she starts up-selling or cutting corners you are not interested in anything! She comes back at you and says: The normal 50e fee will only bring you average sessions, but for 100e you get "a really hot session" with full on dfk, DATY, etc. (or some kind of bullshit like this) , you can counter-play. Either tell her to get lost, that there are plenty of other fish in the sea that will be happy to receive your money. Or, if you really like this girls' look, tell her something like: "Hey baby, show me what you can do during the first 30mins, and then I will gladly extend the session to 1 full hour. Show me what you got first, then maybe we'll play for a long, long time." This way, you can always end the session at the 30-minute / 50e mark if you wish.
During my last visit I was approached by a very good-looking German blonde, Shayleen (I think?). I was attracted to her very much, but I was unsure I would get the kind of dfk-rich session I seek. So I asked her in a nice but direct way if she kissed with passion during the 30min / 50e session. She told me she did, but only in the room. I told her: Only in the room, eh? Well, give me a small sample here on the couch and we'll go to the room for sure. And if I like the session enough, I'll be in no rush to end the session either (but I never made a promise that I would in fact stay over 30mins.). She thought about it for a moment, and I could almost see the mental process on her face. It was a slowy Sunday evening and whilst there were plenty of men around not that many guys were actually buying, if you know what I mean. She told me she didn't want to kiss in the public arena, so I grabbed her hand and led her into the nearby kino. I told her to show me her dfk, and she planted such a deep and sensuous kiss on me that I was immediately sure I could get what I wanted with her. I then led her directly to one of the adjacent rooms for one of the best sessions I had all week (having visited both Oase and World)!
I had a similar experience with great GFE results from another girl at Palace too: a petite blonde Hungarian named Christina. Really intimate and nice session with her.
So don't tell me you cannot get a GFE session at Palace!
My conclusion: Too often we see guys painting Palace as a place where you cannot get top sessions for 50e. That is utter Bull! The reality is: You can get what you want at Palace if you know how to play the game and not let the girls play you. It's like a ski piste with lots of moguls: You have to make some quick turns here, but you can get the ride of your life if you can stay on your feet!
So boys: If you fail at Palace it may have more to do with YOU than with the club. That is my thesis, anyway.
O
Hey, what's wrong with you guys? I was in Palace about 10 days ago and had several GFE sessions without having to pay extra charges. There's a large field of girls working at Palace, so if you cannot winnow out the GFE-providers (and let me assure you they are there at Palace just like at every club!) from the shark-like or processer-type girls (and let me assure you they are equally present at Palace just like at every club!) then you need to look at your own approach and selection performance rather than, with a wave of the hand, condemn the whole club and line-up as the "House of Sharks."
It was extremely evident to me that early in 2011, even though Palace is still fairly busy with male guests, the girls are not getting enough business generally. This is where we guys seeking good session performance and / or so-called "GFEs" from the girls can indeed thrive and use this slow economy to our advantage. For example, talk to the girl you are interested in and sound her out. Tell her what you are looking for and what you are NOT looking for. Make it known to the girl that you want a good session with x, why and z, and if she starts up-selling or cutting corners you are not interested in anything! She comes back at you and says: The normal 50e fee will only bring you average sessions, but for 100e you get "a really hot session" with full on dfk, DATY, etc. (or some kind of bullshit like this) , you can counter-play. Either tell her to get lost, that there are plenty of other fish in the sea that will be happy to receive your money. Or, if you really like this girls' look, tell her something like: "Hey baby, show me what you can do during the first 30mins, and then I will gladly extend the session to 1 full hour. Show me what you got first, then maybe we'll play for a long, long time." This way, you can always end the session at the 30-minute / 50e mark if you wish.
During my last visit I was approached by a very good-looking German blonde, Shayleen (I think?). I was attracted to her very much, but I was unsure I would get the kind of dfk-rich session I seek. So I asked her in a nice but direct way if she kissed with passion during the 30min / 50e session. She told me she did, but only in the room. I told her: Only in the room, eh? Well, give me a small sample here on the couch and we'll go to the room for sure. And if I like the session enough, I'll be in no rush to end the session either (but I never made a promise that I would in fact stay over 30mins.). She thought about it for a moment, and I could almost see the mental process on her face. It was a slowy Sunday evening and whilst there were plenty of men around not that many guys were actually buying, if you know what I mean. She told me she didn't want to kiss in the public arena, so I grabbed her hand and led her into the nearby kino. I told her to show me her dfk, and she planted such a deep and sensuous kiss on me that I was immediately sure I could get what I wanted with her. I then led her directly to one of the adjacent rooms for one of the best sessions I had all week (having visited both Oase and World)!
I had a similar experience with great GFE results from another girl at Palace too: a petite blonde Hungarian named Christina. Really intimate and nice session with her.
So don't tell me you cannot get a GFE session at Palace!
My conclusion: Too often we see guys painting Palace as a place where you cannot get top sessions for 50e. That is utter Bull! The reality is: You can get what you want at Palace if you know how to play the game and not let the girls play you. It's like a ski piste with lots of moguls: You have to make some quick turns here, but you can get the ride of your life if you can stay on your feet!
So boys: If you fail at Palace it may have more to do with YOU than with the club. That is my thesis, anyway.
OMaybe some people can get that GFE for 50 euros but it seems to me its a lot harder to get it at palace then anywhere else. I'm there to enjoy and relax, not negotiate price with every single girl. I tried doing that with the first girls that approached me and quite frankly it kind of ruined my night. I'm heading back to Frankfurt in a couple of weeks and I've definitely scratched it off my list.
Dave Jamsis
02-04-11, 22:17
Hey, what's wrong with you guys? I was in Palace about 10 days ago and had several GFE sessions without having to pay extra charges. There's a large field of girls working at Palace, so if you cannot winnow out the GFE-providers (and let me assure you they are there at Palace just like at every club!) from the shark-like or processer-type girls (and let me assure you they are equally present at Palace just like at every club!) then you need to look at your own approach and selection performance rather than, with a wave of the hand, condemn the whole club and line-up as the "House of Sharks."
It was extremely evident to me that early in 2011, even though Palace is still fairly busy with male guests, the girls are not getting enough business generally. This is where we guys seeking good session performance and / or so-called "GFEs" from the girls can indeed thrive and use this slow economy to our advantage. For example, talk to the girl you are interested in and sound her out. Tell her what you are looking for and what you are NOT looking for. Make it known to the girl that you want a good session with x, why and z, and if she starts up-selling or cutting corners you are not interested in anything! She comes back at you and says: The normal 50e fee will only bring you average sessions, but for 100e you get "a really hot session" with full on dfk, DATY, etc. (or some kind of bullshit like this) , you can counter-play. Either tell her to get lost, that there are plenty of other fish in the sea that will be happy to receive your money. Or, if you really like this girls' look, tell her something like: "Hey baby, show me what you can do during the first 30mins, and then I will gladly extend the session to 1 full hour. Show me what you got first, then maybe we'll play for a long, long time." This way, you can always end the session at the 30-minute / 50e mark if you wish.
During my last visit I was approached by a very good-looking German blonde, Shayleen (I think?). I was attracted to her very much, but I was unsure I would get the kind of dfk-rich session I seek. So I asked her in a nice but direct way if she kissed with passion during the 30min / 50e session. She told me she did, but only in the room. I told her: Only in the room, eh? Well, give me a small sample here on the couch and we'll go to the room for sure. And if I like the session enough, I'll be in no rush to end the session either (but I never made a promise that I would in fact stay over 30mins.). She thought about it for a moment, and I could almost see the mental process on her face. It was a slowy Sunday evening and whilst there were plenty of men around not that many guys were actually buying, if you know what I mean. She told me she didn't want to kiss in the public arena, so I grabbed her hand and led her into the nearby kino. I told her to show me her dfk, and she planted such a deep and sensuous kiss on me that I was immediately sure I could get what I wanted with her. I then led her directly to one of the adjacent rooms for one of the best sessions I had all week (having visited both Oase and World)!
I had a similar experience with great GFE results from another girl at Palace too: a petite blonde Hungarian named Christina. Really intimate and nice session with her.
So don't tell me you cannot get a GFE session at Palace!
My conclusion: Too often we see guys painting Palace as a place where you cannot get top sessions for 50e. That is utter Bull! The reality is: You can get what you want at Palace if you know how to play the game and not let the girls play you. It's like a ski piste with lots of moguls: You have to make some quick turns here, but you can get the ride of your life if you can stay on your feet!
So boys: If you fail at Palace it may have more to do with YOU than with the club. That is my thesis, anyway.
OThis is a great post and cannot agree 100% more. I will be making a visit to Palace myself in a few weeks, and was surpried trolling through the fourm how many comments were focused on this very topic that I was going to post anyway.
In my several visits to Palace I probably never had a session that was NOT GFE. All you have to do is be patient and feel out the girl like Ortos said. If you don't get the vibe, just be paitient and one will come along. I do know that time of day and whether there is Masse in town may have a lot to do with this, but it has always been in my opinion to visit Palce or other FKK during non-peak hours / days if you really want true GFE expereince because the girls will compete for your business and the girls that decide to work non-peak hours are more laid back anyways.
Finally, don't forget common sense and do whatever you can to set yourself apart from other guys to make it more desireable for girls to WANT to session with you. Brush your teeth often, groom yourself up, wear a little spash of colone. I don't smoke, but I carry a lighter with me, and when in smoking rooms (I do smoke a cigar time to time.) when you see a girl pull out a cigeratte hurry over and light it for her. I know that sounds cheesy but little shit like that works
I promise to find out who it is for you very shortly, assuming she still works there.The mystery Asian girl with the non-full back tattoo wasn't there yesterday.
There was Bee, Boom, Nicky, and Mitsu. Bee is the only one with back tattoo and Mitsu is only one without tit enhancement remaining (Bee's is subtle).
Bee and Mitsu are highly recommended as always.
General standard of Palace girls was quite good with about 3 new girls (in last 3 months) that had superb bodies and very pretty faces. I should add that I go for Gazelle types and no or subtle tit jobs. So although Gina has lost a lot of weight and looks much better than before, her tit job still doesn't attract me and still not quite a Gazelle.
The best looking girls of the old crew, present, IMHO: Alice (spectacular Dom Rep girl) , Annie (very petite) , Oxsana (slim). This is not a comment on room performance, as usually the very best performers are not the prettiest. There are other very pretty girls (both face and body) who I did not see this time.
Some very pretty Girls are spoilt a little by their tit jobs, for me, but others will not see it this way. Some girls look good before they take off their clothes and put the makeup on. Others with less natural beauty really need the makeup.
Suller Joe
02-06-11, 05:14
the mystery asian girl with the non-full back tattoo wasn't there yesterday.
there was bee, boom, nicky, and mitsu. bee is the only one with back tattoo and mitsu is only one without tit enhancement remaining (bee's is subtle).
bee and mitsu are highly recommended as always.
general standard of palace girls was quite good with about 3 new girls (in last 3 months) that had superb bodies and very pretty faces. i should add that i go for gazelle types and no or subtle tit jobs. so although gina has lost a lot of weight and looks much better than before, her tit job still doesn't attract me and still not quite a gazelle.
the best looking girls of the old crew, present, imho: alice (spectacular dom rep girl) , annie (very petite) , oxsana (slim). this is not a comment on room performance, as usually the very best performers are not the prettiest. there are other very pretty girls (both face and body) who i did not see this time.
some very pretty girls are spoilt a little by their tit jobs, for me, but others will not see it this way. some girls look good before they take off their clothes and put the makeup on. others with less natural beauty really need the makeup. i would be surprised if the mystery girl was not thai.
i know bee since years back.
i am not sure about boom. is she [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl, friend of deedee w tera patric face & long straight hair? i thought she was phum.
is nicky the "friendly girl"? the not incredibly beautiful sub 30 yo, but the very nice-to-talk-to one?
i know japanese mitsu. might well be the most intelligent girl at palace.
i would really like to know about alices schedule. all like her body and increadible natural stand-straight-out boobs. not all like her act, but my personal experience is darn positive.
i would be surprised if the mystery girl was not thai.
i know bee since years back.
i am not sure about boom. is she [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl, friend of deedee w tera patric face & long straight hair? i thought she was phum.
is nicky the "friendly girl"? the not incredibly beautiful sub 30 yo, but the very nice-to-talk-to one?
i know japanese mitsu. might well be the most intelligent girl at palace.
i would really like to know about alices schedule. all like her body and increadible natural stand-straight-out boobs. not all like her act, but my personal experience is darn positive. yes,
not sure that anyone reminds me of tera, but alice definitely reminds me of halle berry.
boom and phum are same girl. i just spelled it in a way that americans / english would understand closest to the pronunciation. when a guy sees "phum", some will pronounce like "fumb". thai words cannot be spelled in english with correct sound.
there should not be a "h" in "phum". the initial letter is somewhere between a b and p sound. could be: bpum. not her real name anyway. just a working thai nickname. she should have picked someing real easy for english speakers like "anne". . at least dee-dee was smart enough to pick something real easy. bee couldn't change nickname as was tatooed clearly on her back. official thai names are long and usually 3 to 4 syllables. that's why they usually have a short nickname as well.
i have cut the following out of http://www.thai-language.com/id/589843:
ปุ้ม bpoomf poom [a common thai male and female nickname]
i believe that's the correct one (without being 100% sure).
yes nicky is a very nice girl to talk too. i never went to room with her as not quite a gazelle look. she recently had boob enhance to join the masses of others with one.
i never noticed how intellegent mitsu was, but i suppose intellegent girls know how to please, which is certainly true of mitzu. not quite stunning but a super fuck and nice tits to play with.
Gents. Anyone seen Lena or Lina around Palace lately?
Tall Blonde German. With Tatts around legs and back. Give a
Good service.
Looking to be in Palace from 11-13 Feb
Hejasverige
02-09-11, 03:09
I find it very very hard to leave the club. Even if my body hurts, my penis hurts, my eyes are falling down and my wallet is empty, I still wandering around looking for another girl for a perfect ending. Even when I have my clothes on and are about to leave, I have to stay for a coffee and just rest my eyes on the scene. I really like the Palace.
Oh well, tonight was a pretty slow night but I thought the line-up was good as usual. I always come in with a strategy but lose it immediately as soon as the hornyness kicks in. This time I was looking for the stunners with perfect bods and boobs. The service was secondary, I just wanted visual satisfaction and the feeling of shagging dreamgirls. The night turned out completely different.
I just got back to the hotel and it feels sad that I have to go home tomorrow.
Girl 1. On my way to the cinema, a girl pushed me into a room and closed the door. Red flag but she was kind of charming. She refused to let me out and did everything to seduce me. Managed to escape but she followed me to the cinema. Started to suck and I was too slow to say no. She sealed the deal. I thought ok I'll do her. Stupid of me but I was horny. We jumped into the nearest room and I was energetic. Then she started to pladder about services and prices. Sighh. I thought shut up and be sexy. So from there, covered BJ, mish, doggy, couldn't stay hard, she jerked it off with lube until I came with a huge load. The only sexy thing during the session was when she spat a lot of saliva on my dick to enhance the jerking.
Looks 7/10, Service 5/10, Damage 50 EUR, Repeat: Nope.
Can't remember her name unfortunately but no repeat even though she nagged about a second session the whole night.
Girl 2. It was hard to choose and I was concearned that my dick was letting me down tonight. Back in the cinema. I petite girl called Ruby (HU) crawled up to me and started to cuddle. She had a wonderful personality and even if she wasn't a perfect ten I decided to go with her.
Now, she was the service minded kind of girl I like. We had a nice conversation, we gave each other compliments, we kissed and cuddled. To quote her: "sit back and relax, I will give you a good time for sure. Oboy what a nice BBJ. She swapped between sucking and kissing me. On with the rubber, cowgirl, reversed cowgirl, doggy, soft penis, off with the rubber, more sucking, rock hard, HJ with saliva, more sucking, me jerking off with half of the dick in her mouth, CIM and a lot of sucking after.
Looks 7/10, Service 10/10, Damage 100 EUR, Repeat yes.
We became "friends" for the rest of the night. Too good friends as I always feel stupid when I go with other girls. Almost like a cheater.
Girl 3. The best boobs in the house had a girl called Nicolina. Oh god, I've been staring at her the whole night. Tried to converse with her earlier but she was as fun as a dead fish. I knew immediately that her looks have made her into a shark. Still I decided to go on with my strategy. Fuck service I just want to touch those gorgeous breasts and have sex with a perfect ten. To my surprise I made her laugh and giggle a couple of times. I find it challaging to make those sharky girls to like me and finally give good service. I had to confirm that she did BBJ before we sealed the deal. She said yes but you have to shower first.
Somehow and despite her "stoneface" I started to like her. She picked a room very carefully and was very particular with everything around the session. Cute. No rush and she was quite engaged during the chit chat. She started to losen up and I could start to think about how I should get the most out of the session. First I asked her if she have had a lot of clients today. She said no as you can see it's a very slow night. Good for many reasons but I presume she was happy to finally get a client. With her attitude / stoneface I'm sure many potential clients avoid her instantly.
Now she started off with a fantastic BBJ. I loved it. Watching her amazing face and body while her sexy lips was wrapped around my hard dick was heaven. I honestly believe that she got aroused during the BBJ. She'd gone from the dark side to become a sweetheart. On with the rubber and cowgirl. I could go on forever. Watching her perfect boobs bouncing close to my face and my dick sliding in and out in her wet pussy was heaven. She was moaning and making cute sounds. I believe that she actually enjoyed having sex with me. We changed to doggy and oh boy how wonderful life can be. I could go on forever. I turned her around and went on with mish. What a sight. She almost screamed and started to talk dirty. I sucked and kissed her boobs like crazy. She was so wet and tight. I moaned, she moaned.
I wanted to finish by jerking off infront of her. I have a thing for that.
OH BOY, her moves and "sexy show" was amazing. Different positions, arching, spreading, licking boobs, fingering pussy, sucking fingers, smacking her buttcheeks etc etc. On top of all, she honestly thought it was sexy to watch me wank for her. I was ripping and pulling my dick like crazy. With lube and her saliva but couldn't come. Fuuuck I really wanted to explode for her. No rush, some chit chat, some light kisses and cuddle. I was happy anyway. What a nice ending of the night.
Looks 10/10, Service 8/10 (if you can turn her) , Damage 50 EUR, Repeat: YES.
I'm happy with how the night turned out. I love Palace and can't wait until next time.
Just a quick off topic question. Does anyone know how the girls end up in the club? Do Palace staff go on recruitment trips around east europe or do they market? How do the girls get aware of the club?
Would be interesting to know.
Oh well, tonight was a pretty slow night but I thought the line-up was good as usual. I always come in with a strategy but lose it immediately as soon as the hornyness kicks in. This time I was looking for the stunners with perfect bods and boobs. The service was secondary, I just wanted visual satisfaction and the feeling of shagging dreamgirls. The night turned out completely different.
I just got back to the hotel and it feels sad that I have to go home tomorrow.Hejas,
Based on your report I assume you went to the Palace on Tuesday night. Can you ball park how many girls were there duration of your stay?
The reason I am asking is because there is a good chance my next visit will land on the early part of the week like Monday or Tuesday.
Thank you
Hejasverige
02-10-11, 10:36
Hejas,
Based on your report I assume you went to the Palace on Tuesday night. Can you ball park how many girls were there duration of your stay?
The reason I am asking is because there is a good chance my next visit will land on the early part of the week like Monday or Tuesday.
Thank you
Yes Tuesday.
Well the night was slow in terms of low amount of dudes. I would estimate the amount of girls around 30+. Very good selection. I saw at least 6-8 perfect 10s. I was there between 5pm to midnight.
Good ratio and most of the girls were available. I wanted to sample Kiara but she was the only girl that wasn't available when I was "ready".
So, I prefer this setup but the girls complained. Understand why.
My "friend" Ruby said: you should come on a Sunday, then it's more partymood and more people. I thought no thanks that is exactly what I don't want.
I met a girl called Daria from Moldova and I can't stop thinking of her. She was absolutely gorgeous, but I was too tired to sample her. Dark straight hair. 170 cm, natural breasts, perfect skin, walked like a model.
Has anyone been with her? Please let me know.
Yes Tuesday.
Well the night was slow in terms of low amount of dudes. I would estimate the amount of girls around 30+. Very good selection. I saw at least 6-8 perfect 10s. I was there between 5pm to midnight.
Good ratio and most of the girls were available. I wanted to sample Kiara but she was the only girl that wasn't available when I was "ready".
So, I prefer this setup but the girls complained. Understand why.
My "friend" Ruby said: you should come on a Sunday, then it's more partymood and more people. I thought no thanks that is exactly what I don't want.
I met a girl called Daria from Moldova and I can't stop thinking of her. She was absolutely gorgeous, but I was too tired to sample her. Dark straight hair. 170 cm, natural breasts, perfect skin, walked like a model.
Has anyone been with her? Please let me know. Hejas,
Thank you for taking the time to write your report. I appreciate the insider information on the traffic for Sunday and Tuesday. I am planning to visit FRA on the 25th for business and depart on Mar 3rd. I was hoping to check out World's sister club Mainhattan on Sunday but might switch that plan for Oase and defer Mainhattan for Tuesday with Monday as a break and nourishment then back to Palace for the grand final before heading home.
Thank you again.
Hejasverige
02-10-11, 23:01
Hejas,
Thank you for taking the time to write your report. I appreciate the insider information on the traffic for Sunday and Tuesday. I am planning to visit FRA on the 25th for business and depart on Mar 3rd. I was hoping to check out World's sister club Mainhattan on Sunday but might switch that plan for Oase and defer Mainhattan for Tuesday with Monday as a break and nourishment then back to Palace for the grand final before heading home.
Thank you again. Sounds like fun.
Looking forward to your report.
The only downside with FKK's is that you feel emptyness and "broken hearted" after a visit. I wish I was a rich man so I could visit more often.
Hessen Bub
02-11-11, 13:01
I met a girl called Daria from Moldova and I can't stop thinking of her. She was absolutely gorgeous, but I was too tired to sample her. Dark straight hair. 170 cm, natural breasts, perfect skin, walked like a model.If she's Romanian (she probably is) and has been at Oase before, then I've been with her. Great session.
HB
Hejasverige
02-11-11, 17:20
If she's Romanian (she probably is) and has been at Oase before, then I've been with her. Great session.
HBShe said Moldova but probably Romanian as you say.
Anyway, lucky you HB. Hope she's still there next time I come over.
Basketcase
02-11-11, 23:32
Gents. Anyone seen Lena or Lina around Palace lately?
Tall Blonde German. With Tatts around legs and back. Give a
Good service.
Looking to be in Palace from 11-13 FebSimex,
I have not seen blond Lena / Lina (de) at Palace but please do let me know here if you do see her at Palace.
I know at times in the summer that Lena / Lina works at FKK World too.
Wassab,
Similarly I am planning a 3 day and 4 night trip with a trusted crew of degenerates for a raid on the FKK clubs of Hessen. I have asked for advice on the trip schedule and I am currently awaiting feed back from experienced and the not so experienced in the program. I will list our current expected wanderings as a guide for you:
Thursday. Arrive late night, FKK Mainhattan for a quickie. Make use of 10 discount cards from last visit.
Friday. Midday to around 19:00 at Das 5 Element for relaxation and wellness then 20:00 to 05:00 at FKK Oase for the great line up.
Saturday. FKK World. Make use of 50 winter special entry if still valid but maybe by the time we go it is over so make use of VIP card for 52 entry cost.
Sunday. FKK Palace for the excellent and gorgeous line up and when the girls are more relaxed to spend time with you. 75 entry price and potential spin the wheel promotion.
Monday. Fly home.
Now turning to the days that you are expected to be FKK clubbing:
Friday. 25 Feb. Arrive in FFM, I expect you are working during the day so no fooling around that night?
Saturday. 26 Feb. Your first stop is Palace. No problem with that. Palace is a fine place to go and I have invested many a Saturday at Palace. My preference is Oase but the place gets real busy so the default similar to the requests of the crew I hang with is to opt for World. You have the space, there is lots of girls and it is not as packed as Palace or Oase is. Have a relaxed day and a massive party at night with DJ Andy and the girls that hail from the Black Sea. Best night to be at World is Saturday in my experience.
Sunday. 27 Feb. The lazy day. If you want heaps of girls then go to Oase but Palace is also the nicer compromise where you get the gorgeous line up, good food and since it is not as busy you get more time with the girls and time to assess those girls that will provide GFE per Ortos' comments. Mainhattan is a third choice but is not a club that I would recommend for an all day and all night visit. Maybe a day or a night visit since the Mainhattan club is not big.
Monday. 28 Feb. Stockings and socks day at Palace. Recommended if that rocks you boat. You still get a good selection at Palace. I have done Mondays at World and these are sedate affairs, relaxing and you get some gems. Oase is the club with the most girls on a Monday but numbers does not mean quality. I rate Palace girls as better looking overall just like I give the edge to Golden Time girls being better looking than Oase girls as well in general.
Tuesday. 1 Mar. Do not go to World if you do not like dress day since Tuesday is dress day at World. Oase is picking up by now in terms of activity but since you are probably going home on Weds then maybe leave Palace to Tuesday.
Wednesday. 2 Mar. Go home.
There you go that is my opinion. This is taken from the Oase thread but I wanted to address a couple of guys planning their Hessen trip.
I'm by no means a FKK Palace expert but I can tell you what it was like last month when I went there on Friday and Sunday. Palace does have the better looking girls IMO. However on the two days I was there not a single girl that I was interested in offered GFE for less then 100 euros. Attraction is a matter of preference so I'll just say that my taste is more in line with most average guys. These girls are basically the ones that spend the most times in the room and get asked to session most often. I stayed at the clubs close to 10 to 12 hours each day so basically I have been approached by every girl that I've found attractive. The less attractive girls may or may not offer GFE for 50 euros. I turn away most of them but a couple of them did quote 100 euros for GFE. On Sunday I got fed up with negotiating and discussing prices all the time so eventually when I get the sell I just tell her sure I want the GFE package but only of it is for an hour. So if you go their expecting to find the hottest chicks in the club giving away GFE packages for less then 50 euros then you could find yourself disappointed, like me. However if you just accept the fact that GFE is 100 euros and you can negotiate with her to include extras like a massage or 1 hour session then you can have yourself a great time. Also on Sunday there were hot chicks but mainly in the evening. During the day there was maybe a handful I'd be willing to fuck.
This is taken from the Oase thread but I wanted to address a couple of guys planning their Hessen trip.Bluat,
Thank you for your insight on the Palace. In the past, I have been to the Palace on Thursday, Friday and Saturday in but never been on a Sunday. For this trip, I am stuck at a conundrum where I would like to revisit the Palace but also want to visit Oase and Mainhattan because of its easy accessibility via public transit. The problem is choosing the right night so that I will not be disappointed with the line up.
Palace can be daunting for those who never been but I think any man with some wits can seek out that special girl and have a GFE. To me 50 to 100 Euro is not that material if the girl willing to give her all in the room be it 1hr of intense sex or 30 min of sex and 30 min of cuddling time are all good in my eyes.
To avoid the bait and switch you need balls. If you get this in the room then just get some balls and walk out and tell the management what happened. It might sour your mood but it also help other patrons not to go with her.
It's sucks that you have to ask all these questions up front but at least you'll know what you'll be getting when you unrobe.
Cheers
Hessen Bub
02-12-11, 14:09
However if you just accept the fact that GFE is 100 euros and you can negotiate with her to include extras like a massage or 1 hour session then you can have yourself a great time.Never ever do accept that. A massage is no extra and the half hour is 50 EUR. Period. Also telling you that only for one hour and 100 EUR she'll give you a good time is a rip-off. YOU decide if you want 30 or 60 min.
HB
Never ever do accept that. A massage is no extra and the half hour is 50 EUR. Period. Also telling you that only for one hour and 100 EUR she'll give you a good time is a rip-off. YOU decide if you want 30 or 60 min.
HBIt's not like I like it. But if people are hell bent on going to Palace and wanting GFE as well then 100 euros is the standard. Accept this fact or else you're not going to session at all. Actually why go to Palace at all if you are wanting GFE for 50 euros? I found Oase had many hot girls that did do GFE for 50 euros.
For me I've left it off my Hessen club visits for this week. I'm going to Oase Thursday and Friday and then to World on Saturday and Sunday. I've never been to World but hopefully it rocks. If it doesn't then I guess I'll give Palace another go on Sunday.
Basketcase
02-12-11, 17:57
For me I've left it off my Hessen club visits for this week. I'm going to Oase Thursday and Friday and then to World on Saturday and Sunday. I've never been to World but hopefully it rocks. If it doesn't then I guess I'll give Palace another go on Sunday.Hi Bluat,
When you say "my Hessen club visits for this week" you are referring to the 17 to 20 February given today is Saturday and not to 10 to 13 February right?
Hi Bluat,
When you say "my Hessen club visits for this week" you are referring to the 17 to 20 February given today is Saturday and not to 10 to 13 February right?Whoops that's what I meant. Feb 17 to 21 I'll be in Frankfurt.
The less attractive girls may or may not offer GFE for 50 euros. I turn away most of them but a couple of them did quote 100 euros for GFE. On Sunday I got fed up with negotiating and discussing prices all the time so eventually when I get the sell I just tell her sure I want the GFE package but only of it is for an hour. So if you go their expecting to find the hottest chicks in the club giving away GFE packages for less then 50 euros then you could find yourself disappointed, like me.Please wake up man! A GFE package? Eek? A GFE in a FKK-Saunaclub is a contradictio in terminis. You can fuck a girl 30m / 50 Euro. That is all. .
B30
Please wake up man! A GFE package? Eek? A GFE in a FKK-Saunaclub is a contradictio in terminis. You can fuck a girl 30m / 50 Euro. That is all. .
B30Well put. You don't ever buy a GFE. You only get one if the girls wants to offer it to you. That is why Palace is not my preferred club. When I am offered the package, I am immediately turned off because: 1) I know it will be fake with lots of fake moans etc. and 2) it will take alot of work to even get a great session.
For those who have never experienced a great BBBJ or a girl who kisses, they might just consider that a GFE. But a true connoisseur knows better. One of the great advantages of a FKK is meeting girls that really enjoy sex. The safe and relaxed atmosphere plus the ability to flirt with clients is what makes this possible. I find that this occurs more in a FKK than any other environment although some do come very close.
Hessen Bub
02-13-11, 09:57
It's not like I like it. But if people are hell bent on going to Palace and wanting GFE as well then 100 euros is the standard. Accept this fact or else you're not going to session at all. Actually why go to Palace at all if you are wanting GFE for 50 euros?Excuse me, but that's bullshit. There's the majority of girls that offer good service for the standard price. And then there's a group of girls making their own prices, unfortunately not sanctioned by management.
HB
Well put. You don't ever buy a GFE. You only get one if the girls wants to offer it to you. That is why Palace is not my preferred club. When I am offered the package, I am immediately turned off because: 1) I know it will be fake with lots of fake moans etc. And 2) it will take alot of work to even get a great session.
For those who have never experienced a great BBBJ or a girl who kisses, they might just consider that a GFE. But a true connoisseur knows better. One of the great advantages of a FKK is meeting girls that really enjoy sex. The safe and relaxed atmosphere plus the ability to flirt with clients is what makes this possible. I find that this occurs more in a FKK than any other environment although some do come very close. I am in complete agreement.
Lets make a clear distinction. Some girls provide the standard services for no extra charge. Others want extra money for normally basic standard services. The later girls should be avoided as far as possible unless you simply must have her.
I have reached the stage that I probably don't want a girl unless the chemistry has built to kissing stage before going to a room. This will rule out a lot of girls, but guys have their collections of known reliable providers, e. g. Mitzu, just to name one. At least I need a strong indication that the girl will be willing to kiss and make some attempt at GFE.
A GFE tends to come for no additional charge based on choosing the right girl who provides them (some of the time) , and then developing a good chemistry with the girl. Girls that do GFE won't do it if they they don't like the customer. There are other girls that are just processors and never give a true GFE. They may just play act a bit for extra money, but it won't ever measure up to the best girls.
When you can't tell the difference between your experience compared to with a real girl friend, or when was even a lot better than a real girl friend, that is what I call GFE. Some girls are even going to allow themselves to really enjoy it including orgasms. They won't do this with every customer as would be too draining of their energy, but has been known to happen. Anyone who thinks none of these girls ever enjoy their work, is naive.
I find that Asian and Latin girls have a much higher probability to provide GFE than the blondies. There are exceptions.
When you can't tell the difference between your experience compared to with a real girl friend, or when was even a lot better than a real girl friend, that is what I call GFE.You guys have already said just about everything I wanted to say, and the above sentence sums it up very nicely.
For me GFE has nothing to with BBBJ / DATY / DFK being provided in the standard fee (in a FKK that should always be the standard anyway) or "bareback everything" (which a GF would provide, but which because of the risks involved I wish never was on offer in a FKK).
A GFE is when you feel you really click with a girl. To get this as an "offer" would just ruin my mood. A GFE is when she without hesitation is providing you with sweet attention and sizzling feeling outside the room, followed up by great game and high skilled performance in the room, and at the same time she is really enjoying (or making you feel she is enjoying) your company and really getting into it herself, too. Exactly.
And the FKK arena as a meeting arena is unique and gives better conditions than anywhere else in the p4p scence to mingle with girls in a relaxed atmosphere, enabling you to look for chemistry and identifying exactly who you best click with. So true.
Hi Mates,
Has any of you seen Saskia (DE) and Alexa (RO) around Palace lately? I will be visiting Palace in 2 weeks and would like to know if these regulars are still working. I remember Saskia usually spends her day on the slot while Alexa usually try to sell to foreigners that she is Greek.
Thank you in advance.
Excuse me, but that's bullshit. There's the majority of girls that offer good service for the standard price. And then there's a group of girls making their own prices, unfortunately not sanctioned by management.
HBJust telling it like it is when I was there so some other newbie doesn't go there thinking he's going to find plenty if GFE girls at Palace for the standard price. In my hours there not one single playboy centerfold looking girl offered me GFE for 50 euros. It is 100 euros for the romantic package. Like I said I eventually got fed up with pointing out to them it was 50 euros everywhere else so by Sunday I just made them agree to a longer session just so I can at least feel like I got my moneys worth.
Maybe regulars are able to get it, but I'm no regular and most people reading this and need the advice the most are newbies so I feel it's best to warn them.
Hessen Bub
02-13-11, 18:25
It's perfectly OK to warn non-regulars. What you should do is report each "100-girl" to the management. Even if it might not change a thing.
HB
Which girl has the biggest boobs in FKK Palace, please, and how is her service? Thank you!I think the biggest boobs that are displayed on a fairly regular basis at Palace belong to a Ukrainian girl named Natalie. She's been there for years. How's the service? Can't say myself, as I've never gone further than a chat with her. I am not addicted to huge boobs, and she is otherwise not my type. But maybe somebody else can.
You should not overlook Linda (CZ) who was a fixture at Palace for many years, but has, for the last 2 years or so been working at Oase. Great, great service, in my opinion.
O
I was there on Friday evening. Went up to a stunning tanned German girl from Cologne (charlene or chartin)
Was stunned she wanted minimum 200 euros for the hour. With CIM.
I said boodbye and made my excuses to Oase where I fucked a Darly Hannah lookalike for 2 hours.
It's perfectly OK to warn non-regulars. What you should do is report each "100-girl" to the management. Even if it might not change a thing.
HB
Basketcase
02-13-11, 23:19
I was there on Friday evening. Went up to a stunning tanned German girl from Cologne (charlene or chartin)
Was stunned she wanted minimum 200 euros for the hour. With CIM.
I said boodbye and made my excuses to Oase where I fucked a Darly Hannah lookalike for 2 hours. Hi Simex,
I guess your Cologne girl Charlene or Chartin say you coming with a big sign on your forehead. She was seeing you as a walking ATM.
Yes, I know Tina (sk) at Oase who you call the Daryl Hannah lookalike. She is a tall girl, long blond hair with massive tits that hang down. She has been at Oase since around mid January. Speaks excellent english and is a friendly girl.
Agree,
Been away from the German FKK & Sauna scene for over 4 months. So my reserve was building
Up. Had some Euros to spend. But I wanted to spend it well.
For me, Oase (quality; service; lineup) ticked all the boxes for me this weekend.
Tina English is very good, she spent 1 year studying in one of the London Uni's.
Hi Simex,
I guess your Cologne girl Charlene or Chartin say you coming with a big sign on your forehead. She was seeing you as a walking ATM.
Yes, I know Tina (sk) at Oase who you call the Daryl Hannah lookalike. She is a tall girl, long blond hair with massive tits that hang down. She has been at Oase since around mid January. Speaks excellent english and is a friendly girl.
PeterTaylor
02-17-11, 15:46
Hi guys, I need some advice.
I am staying in the centre of Frankfurt at the end of the month. I go there maybe twice per year on business. I generally make at least 1 visit to Palace per trip as it is handy from the centre and for the past 7 years always got at least 1 great fuck per visit and often more. Only a couple of duds in all the pops 50 or so that I have had there. I like DFK / OWO / good fuck and have never paid more than 50. Also like the chat up / seduction in the kino.
I like Oase in the summer because of the garden and the quality of girls, but the travel is either expensive or time consuming.
I do not like recent reports on Palace and am tempted to head for Oase despite it being unlikely that the garden will be in use. What do you guys recommend?
Many thanks.
Peter
Jimmy K II
02-17-11, 17:51
Hi guys, I need some advice.
I am staying in the centre of Frankfurt at the end of the month. I go there maybe twice per year on business. I generally make at least 1 visit to Palace per trip as it is handy from the centre and for the past 7 years always got at least 1 great fuck per visit and often more. Only a couple of duds in all the pops 50 or so that I have had there. I like DFK / OWO / good fuck and have never paid more than 50. Also like the chat up / seduction in the kino.
I like Oase in the summer because of the garden and the quality of girls, but the travel is either expensive or time consuming.
I do not like recent reports on Palace and am tempted to head for Oase despite it being unlikely that the garden will be in use. What do you guys recommend?
Many thanks.
PeterHi Peter,
Take a closer at those venues:
www.fkk-mainhattan.de
(girls mostly come from FKK-World, cause the two clubs belong to the same guys)
Smaller club but ok. I've had really some excellent seccions there last October.
Or here in Hanau (Taxi is about 40-50 EUR) :
www.atlantik-fkk.de
(could be an alternative to the Frankfurt FKK-scene)
Have fun and good luck by chosing the right place!
CHeers.
Jimmy
I do not like recent reports on Palace and am tempted to head for Oase despite it being unlikely that the garden will be in use. What do you guys recommend?
Many thanks.
PeterI recommend that you do NOT swallow hook-line-and-sinker everything you read in reports about Palace, recent or otherwise. I was there recently and found it to be the same as always. By all means go to Oase, not because there's any problem with Palace. If it worked for you in the past, there's no reason to believe Palace won't work for you again. It was really great three weeks ago.
O
Suller Joe
02-18-11, 01:33
50 is not what it used to be and you cannot expect rates to stay the same forever. To me the "standard rate of 50" will soon be history, if it isn't already. It'll soon jump to 75 and IMHO it is nothing but fair to the WG's.
BTW: Aren't WG's allowed to post here? I would love to read posts by WGs providing their side of the story. The way it is I feel they are being alienized.
Bet I ruffled a few feathers, but its JMHO.
50 is not what it used to be and you cannot expect rates to stay the same forever. To me the "standard rate of 50" will soon be history, if it isn't already. It'll soon jump to 75 and IMHO it is nothing but fair to the WG's.
BTW: Aren't WG's allowed to post here? I would love to read posts by WGs providing their side of the story. The way it is I feel they are being alienized.
Bet I ruffled a few feathers, but its JMHO. Just a quick skim of your posting history shows me 'palace, palace, palace. Palace'. Maybe at palace the 50 euro rate is history but there are hundreds of other clubs out there where this would have a hard time sticking. Why look at all the clubs that went to the partytreff concept, one payment at the door for all the fucks you can get. I've been in some of the smaller clubs and the number of customers to the girls were pretty much even throughout the day. The base price gets raised, more guys will do less fucking. The less fucking, the less extra's the girls will earn. The less money they'll end up making. No, don't see the 50 changing. At least not at this moment. Those extra's are where the girls make the money, not the base rate.
I've been on this board for years. And there's only been Cordilia from what I can recall who's ever posted here. So I don't think its an alienation issue, more along the lines 'what's in it for the girl' to even bother to post here question. There girls are in it for the money, not for socializing on a review board. And when would you want them to post. After or before working twelve hours? Another huge hurtle is the language barrier, alot of the girls can speak decent english but sitting out and typing a reply might be a bit more challenging than they're up to after getting fucked all day. Then you have guys throwing in slang and making comments using abbreviations like IMHO, WG's, BTW, JMHO and the like, making it that much more difficult for a working girl to figure out what's being said on this board. So in a way your asking why they aren't here posting while at the same time making it more difficult for them to understand what's being said.
PeterTaylor
02-18-11, 12:11
Hi Peter,
Take a closer at those venues:
www.fkk-mainhattan.de
(girls mostly come from FKK-World, cause the two clubs belong to the same guys)
Smaller club but ok. I've had really some excellent seccions there last October.
Or here in Hanau (Taxi is about 40-50 EUR) :
www.atlantik-fkk.de
(could be an alternative to the Frankfurt FKK-scene)
Have fun and good luck by chosing the right place!
CHeers.
JimmyThanks Jimmy, I will try them and report back.
Manhattan looks to be very handy.
Is Atlantik viable by public transport? It is 1 thing to pay 35 to get to Oase, another to pay 50 for something new.
Peter
Vito Corleone
02-19-11, 03:19
So don't tell me you cannot get a GFE session at Palace!
My conclusion: Too often we see guys painting Palace as a place where you cannot get top sessions for 50e. That is utter Bull! The reality is: You can get what you want at Palace if you know how to play the game and not let the girls play you. It's like a ski piste with lots of moguls: You have to make some quick turns here, but you can get the ride of your life if you can stay on your feet!
So boys: If you fail at Palace it may have more to do with YOU than with the club. That is my thesis, anyway.
OI think some guys enter the place expecting to get ripped off or something similar. They have that negative vibe & the women can sense it. I also have my regulars & that makes a big difference. The girls attitude will change once they realize you are a regular.
Maybe people need to have a little game to survive@Palace. Anyway, I am happy guys avoid this club as I never have to wait for more that 5-10 minutes for a room. Most of the time no waiting@all. A couple of years ago the wait was close to an hour. Before they added the new rooms the wait was ridiculous. 2-3 hours!
Vito Corleone
02-19-11, 03:42
It's not like I like it. But if people are hell bent on going to Palace and wanting GFE as well then 100 euros is the standard. Accept this fact or else you're not going to session at all. Actually why go to Palace at all if you are wanting GFE for 50 euros? I found Oase had many hot girls that did do GFE for 50 euros.I agree there are some really hot women trying to get 100 for a so called GFE session & maybe they can get it from some joker who may never visit Germany again. There are plenty of women who give a off the hook GFE for 50e. I have never accepted "GFE 100 euro standard" & have been enjoying some out of this world experiences@Palace for many years.
Vito Corleone
02-19-11, 03:49
I.
I find that Asian and Latin girls have a much higher probability to provide GFE than the blondies. There are exceptions.This might be true, but most older providers give much better service than young babes. Most of the Asian ladies@the FKK's are much older generally 40+ no matter how young they might try to pass. Mitsu has to be in her mid forties & there are plenty of blondies in the mid forties who give great service. She might have some convinced she is 29 or whatever, but she is 40+. Looks great for her age.
Vito Corleone
02-19-11, 04:03
Which girl has the biggest boobs in FKK Palace, please, and how is her service? Thank you!Angelina (CZ) has a pair of natural tits to make you drool. Her rack is natural, firm & heavenly. She has a hot slim bikini babe bod & pretty face. Service was nothing special, but I just had to bang her once to play with those gifts from god. She likes to hang out by the rail next to the stairway by the bar in the main room & she is blatantly advertising her portfolio.
The German gal with the wing tats on her back shoulders (HB, I forgot her name) has a nice set of bolt-ons & I hear she gives great service if I remember correctly.
Vito Corleone
02-19-11, 04:08
Hi guys, I need some advice.
I am staying in the centre of Frankfurt at the end of the month. I go there maybe twice per year on business. I generally make at least 1 visit to Palace per trip as it is handy from the centre and for the past 7 years always got at least 1 great fuck per visit and often more. Only a couple of duds in all the pops 50 or so that I have had there. I like DFK / OWO / good fuck and have never paid more than 50. Also like the chat up / seduction in the kino.
I like Oase in the summer because of the garden and the quality of girls, but the travel is either expensive or time consuming.
I do not like recent reports on Palace and am tempted to head for Oase despite it being unlikely that the garden will be in use. What do you guys recommend?
Many thanks.
PeterI visited both Palace & Oase late Jan & I had a great at both clubs. More girls available at Oase, but more model type stunners at Palace.
This might be true, but most older providers give much better service than young babes. Most of the Asian ladies@the FKK's are much older generally 40+ no matter how young they might try to pass. Mitsu has to be in her mid forties & there are plenty of blondies in the mid forties who give great service. She might have some convinced she is 29 or whatever, but she is 40+. Looks great for her age.Vito,
You do exaggerate! And to say that Mitsu is mid 40s but looks great for her age is a little confusing. I'm sure you haven't seen her passport! I don't actually know her age, but doesn't look 40 to me either. Still great body (except for the bum doesn't quite do it for me) and still is magnificent in the room. One of my very top favourites. My estimate for her age: 35 (even age 29 does not seem impossible).
I have inside information that the oldest girl at the Palace is Asian and is 40+ (I won't name her) but she doesn't look the oldest compared to some western girls who look very old.
Its possible that some girls have given fake ages from fake passports of course. :D
Most of the Asian girls are way younger than that, e.g. DeeDee, Bee, Bhoom.
Nina is a good example of a girl who looks very young but is actually quite a bit older (but not to 40).
While I generally don't go with teenage looking girls, I also generally don't go with very old looking girls (looking over 35), so I may have been missing out :(
I suppose older looking girls (and plain looking ones) need to rely on good service in order to get repeat customers, otherwise they would not make any money.
One girl I know says I am much better in bed than I was 15 years ago and can make her come easily now (vastly improved blowjob technique matters), so maybe the years of learning and experience makes for better performers. Girls who have a lot of sex should not need too many years to reach peak performance, I hope. Some girls don't put the effort into learning how to give super BBBJ. So no amount of experience overcomes lack of desire to be great.
London Traveller
02-21-11, 01:30
My preferred option for Sundays in Frankfurt is now Palace as the food is available in the afternoon which means I can have a decent meal beforfe my flight, unlike at Oase when nothing except breakfast is available and even this gets put away in the afternoon.
I arrived at about noon and had just plonked myself on a sofa in the bar area and fended off an unattractive girl, when a gorgeous blonde said Hello, to me and asked if I remembered her. Well, of course I did, it was Charlene (. De) who I had met last summer at Oase. We rapidly went to a room for an hour to cement our refound friendship. She's my new favourite girl at Palace.
I then spent half an hour with Eliza (from Athens, Greece) who I had enjoyed last time I was at this club. Unfortunately we didn't connect as well this time and the session was lacklustre.
Next time I entered the room a vision of beauty smiled at me. She turned out to be Marta, a stunning 25 year old girl with long dark brown hair and one of the most gorgeous faces I've seen in a while, at the top of a stupendous body. She's from Medellin, Colombia but currently lives in Barcelona where she has a normal job (so she told me). She was a good GFE in the room, which is what I asked her for. At the wallet time I offered her the usual 50 euros (we had actually been in the room about 20-25 minutes) but she said that it was 100 as she had given me a good service (including DATY). I hesitated for a bit as I knew that this was the new trend but she hadn't mentioned alternative pricing to me in advance. However, as she was gorgeous and had provided good service I gave way and provided the extra 50, although I did tell her that she should have stayed with me a bit longer. This kind of spoilt the farewell moment a bit. Although she wasn't really one for farewells. Having got up off the bed pretty sharpish once I'd finished (which is why we were out before the half hour was up). Would others have been a softie like me? Or should I have held out for the standard price. I would like to see her again if she's there but I think she's not in the club often (although she did seem to be very busy).
My preferred option for Sundays in Frankfurt is now Palace as the food is available in the afternoon which means I can have a decent meal beforfe my flight, unlike at Oase when nothing except breakfast is available and even this gets put away in the afternoon.
I arrived at about noon and had just plonked myself on a sofa in the bar area and fended off an unattractive girl, when a gorgeous blonde said Hello, to me and asked if I remembered her. Well, of course I did, it was Charlene (. De) who I had met last summer at Oase. We rapidly went to a room for an hour to cement our refound friendship. She's my new favourite girl at Palace.
I then spent half an hour with Eliza (from Athens, Greece) who I had enjoyed last time I was at this club. Unfortunately we didn't connect as well this time and the session was lacklustre.
Next time I entered the room a vision of beauty smiled at me. She turned out to be Marta, a stunning 25 year old girl with long dark brown hair and one of the most gorgeous faces I've seen in a while, at the top of a stupendous body. She's from Medellin, Colombia but currently lives in Barcelona where she has a normal job (so she told me). She was a good GFE in the room, which is what I asked her for. At the wallet time I offered her the usual 50 euros (we had actually been in the room about 20-25 minutes) but she said that it was 100 as she had given me a good service (including DATY). I hesitated for a bit as I knew that this was the new trend but she hadn't mentioned alternative pricing to me in advance. However, as she was gorgeous and had provided good service I gave way and provided the extra 50, although I did tell her that she should have stayed with me a bit longer. This kind of spoilt the farewell moment a bit. Although she wasn't really one for farewells. Having got up off the bed pretty sharpish once I'd finished (which is why we were out before the half hour was up). Would others have been a softie like me? Or should I have held out for the standard price. I would like to see her again if she's there but I think she's not in the club often (although she did seem to be very busy). Dude, sorry about your rip off. It's that kind of horsehit, that ingrained culture of stretching the limit and squeezing out every penny and management backing the girl who do it, that keeps me and many of my friends from that tourist trap Palace, you had a 50 euro session and she robbed you. Too bad you caved in to her thievery.
Beffen
Dude, sorry about your rip off. It's that kind of horsehit, that ingrained culture of stretching the limit and squeezing out every penny and management backing the girl who do it, that keeps me and many of my friends from that tourist trap Palace, you had a 50 euro session and she robbed you. Too bad you caved in to her thievery.
BeffenThose who would read the report below and stay away from Palace because it is "a tourist trap" are blaming the club, and I think in this case it is not warrented. The way I read the episode from LT's report it was he, LT, who simply handed over the extra 50e without much resistance. The club did not tell him to do that; it was purely his choice to cave in like that. And the Palace management was not even brought into the discussion, so why assume that the club supports such bad behavior on the part of the girl?
And to his credit, LT doesn't condemn Palace or it's sterling line-up for this, but instead takes a good self-effacing view of things. He also relates rather clearly that A) it was probably a mistake on his part to cave in sofast to this obvious far-fetched demand. (I bet if he had given a bit more game to it by resisting a bit or, in a polite manner, countering the girl with a "let's go to the front desk with this", the girl would have backed down) ; and B) there are some great girls at Palace with whom he, LT, has very successful sessions without any sort of rip-off hanky-panky at all (e. G. Charlene).
I think it's fine --really great, actually-- that alot of guys (like your friends, Beffen) stay away from Palace, because that reduces the crowds and competition for the rest of us. However, to prepetuate this kine of Palace bashing is a bit unfair, at least in this case I think. The sort of incident described by LT can / does happen at many other clubs (look at reports here and there at e. G. Oase, World or even Mainhattan, where sometimes girls ask for "trink geld" after a lacklustre session or at GT where some girls try the 100e / hr thing, etc.) , and does sometimes occur when you session for the first time with a new girl who you maybe did not test or check out well enough in the pre-zimmer encounter, esp if the girl a stunner-hustler type without a long track record in the club.
Nobody who knows Palace well is in denial that there is some kind of sub-culture running through some of the girls there that results in this kind of "50e extra for special service" shit. But experienced, club-wise guys like you and me (and I'm sure LT too, if he was thinking more with his big head) can recognise these girls and brush these things aside and score very well at Palace and enjoy what I think is the best looking overall line-up in Frankfurt right now day in and day out.
Hessen Bub
02-21-11, 08:57
But experienced, club-wise guys like you and me (and I'm sure LT too, if he was thinking more with his big head) can recognise these girls and brush these things aside and score very well at Palace and enjoy what I think is the best looking overall line-up in Frankfurt right now day in and day out.It does neverthesless get annoying. Management doesn't seem to care about it. And it is a question of time when it will affect the majority of girls.
I still do go to Palace. It's the best hardware you can get in Hessen (in winter). There's a whole lot of beautiful girls with excellent service. Sauna every full hour is great. Breakfast is gorgeous.
HB
At the wallet time I offered her the usual 50 euros (we had actually been in the room about 20-25 minutes) but she said that it was 100 as she had given me a good service (including DATY). I hesitated for a bit as I knew that this was the new trend but she hadn't mentioned alternative pricing to me in advance. However, as she was gorgeous and had provided good service I gave way and provided the extra 50, although I did tell her that she should have stayed with me a bit longer.Good girls give good 30m service and will never ask more than 50E. She asked it after the session and not before, which is not OK. You never should have agreed to pay 100E that is ridiculous.
This seems to be a non-wanted trend in Palace. Palace is getting more and more a NO_GO_AREA! Always complain at the Theke when this happens and never pay. I can not imagine Palace mgt. Will support this trend.
B30
It does neverthesless get annoying. Management doesn't seem to care about it. And it is a question of time when it will affect the majority of girls.
HBI'm a bit surprised to read this from you, HB: Weren't you the guy suggesting to us that we should report all such girls to the management at the front desk? But I do take your point, for sure.
I don't really know what is position of the management at Palace in these matters, because I don't think I've ever had an incident that I actually had to take to the front desk. I've bluffed girls who tried this bs on my a few times, inviting them to come for an honest friendly discussion about their pricing structure at the front desk, and they've always backed down, as I assumed they would. See poker skills can come in handy sometimes in FKKs!
And I agree it's annoying when it happens, but really I often can spot this kind of girl way before she even utters the dreaded sentence: "Oh, for really good service that will be 100e, not 50. Blah, blah" I mean they are so obvious, aren't they? I usually have my "radar" well tuned to the "girlfriend-vibe" that I like in a session, and if a girl doesn't give off good "chemistry" when I first interact with her, I can usually tell what they might be like and / or I loose interest in them long before it's Zimmer-time, if you know what I mean.
My main point is simple: While I do recognise that there are some rip-off girls at Palace (and maybe a higher density of this type in the Palace line-up vs other clubs) , I think it is misleading to claim the whole (rather large and multi-faceted) line-up there are rip-off / shark girls. Three weeks ago, my last visit to Palace, I met so many really interesting girls who do / would provide top-notch sessions for normal prices.
O
Hessen Bub
02-21-11, 19:56
Yes, every girl trying to charge 100 for "really good service" should be reported to the front desk. Did this up to now lead to a girl being thrown out? Not that I am aware of. That's why I said "management doesn't seem to care about it". We should still continue to do so, maybe repeated complaints about a girl will lead to a change.
I am with you: There's a whole lot of good service providers at Palace. And girls charging higher prices is not fair to those.
HB
Those who would read the report below and stay away from Palace because it is "a tourist trap" are blaming the club, and I think in this case it is not warrented. The way I read the episode from LT's report it was he, LT, who simply handed over the extra 50e without much resistance. The club did not tell him to do that; it was purely his choice to cave in like that. And the Palace management was not even brought into the discussion, so why assume that the club supports such bad behavior on the part of the girl?
And to his credit, LT doesn't condemn Palace or it's sterling line-up for this, but instead takes a good self-effacing view of things. He also relates rather clearly that A) it was probably a mistake on his part to cave in sofast to this obvious far-fetched demand. (I bet if he had given a bit more game to it by resisting a bit or, in a polite manner, countering the girl with a "let's go to the front desk with this", the girl would have backed down) ; and B) there are some great girls at Palace with whom he, LT, has very successful sessions without any sort of rip-off hanky-panky at all (e. G. Charlene).
I think it's fine.really great, actually- that alot of guys (like your friends, Beffen) stay away from Palace, because that reduces the crowds and competition for the rest of us. However, to prepetuate this kine of Palace bashing is a bit unfair, at least in this case I think. The sort of incident described by LT can / does happen at many other clubs (look at reports here and there at e. G. Oase, World or even Mainhattan, where sometimes girls ask for "trink geld" after a lacklustre session or at GT where some girls try the 100e / hr thing, etc.) , and does sometimes occur when you session for the first time with a new girl who you maybe did not test or check out well enough in the pre-zimmer encounter, esp if the girl a stunner-hustler type without a long track record in the club.
Nobody who knows Palace well is in denial that there is some kind of sub-culture running through some of the girls there that results in this kind of "50e extra for special service" shit. But experienced, club-wise guys like you and me (and I'm sure LT too, if he was thinking more with his big head) can recognise these girls and brush these things aside and score very well at Palace and enjoy what I think is the best looking overall line-up in Frankfurt right now day in and day out. Hi Ortos,
Look, I wish I could visit Palace- it's a beautiful club, it's very convenient, and it does have a great lineup most of the time- visually speaking, but not always. I rememeber nights at Palace with a crappy lineup= it's winter time now and messe season, so of course the lineup is hot looking. Check it in summer and you'll find the place is a ghost town, with the bulk of the hotties migrating to clubs with outdoor facilities. This is an annual phenomenon.
As for monger skills, yes I agree with you- I've even managed to turn around sessions there which started with the girl asking for extra money for kissing by using my boundless charm and experience turning it around to a hot multi hour session with my special type of souveniers being allowed and embraced enthusiastically= and for no extra charge. But I've also been endlessly hounded by sharks who sit next to me in the contact areas, give me a peck on the lips and then try repeatedly to blow me against my will after I repeatedly told her pause machen, only to have her fetch the woman behind the desk and the little old man who took turns berating me to pay the girl for that BS. I stood my ground with both managers and each gave up trying to shake me down on the girls behalf after 15 minutes of me daring them to throw me out and them insisting I must pay. Management tried real hard to get me to cave in to the girl's thievery and that is not a customer service ethos that I'm going to support. It gets worse and worse too as time goes on- now with the 100 euro / 30 minute GFE special puhlease- I'm ready and anxious to spend an hour for such treatment at 100 euro with a girl who turns me on but that is not how they play it at Palace. I remember fondly the days of Marina, Vicki / Reggie, Andra, Daniella, and other old flames / faves. When management takes steps to comabt this predatory behavior on the part of an all- too- large segment of their workers, I'll reconsider. As they continue to facilitate and abet this nonsense, they'll not get my 75 euro any time soon.
Beffen
Hi all,
Due to my travel schedule I only have a window of time during the day on Friday to visit the Palace from 10AM. 2PM. I know the selection is probably better in the evening but was wondering if anyone can recommend some of the better girls during the day. I'm not particular although prefer slim girls with smaller tits. Looking through the past few pages of posts it looks like Lina, Kiara, Dora, Bee, Mitsu are some recommended girls although not sure if any of them working early in the day. Does anyone have any strong suggestions?
Thanks for any advice. I've been once to the Palace although it was 3 years ago. I've been to Artemis 3-4 times so at least familiar with FKK.
Hi Ortos,
But I've also been endlessly hounded by sharks who sit next to me in the contact areas, give me a peck on the lips and then try repeatedly to blow me against my will.
BeffenOh my God! The horror and trauma of it all. Yes, I can see how you must be a bit shell-shocked by this place. I hope you've not suffered permanent damage.
O
Hessen Bub
02-22-11, 10:21
Looking through the past few pages of posts it looks like Lina, Kiara, Dora, Bee, Mitsu are some recommended girls although not sure if any of them working early in the day.Avoid Kiara (. De). She's a 100 EUR / 30min girl. Bee could be there; she's working Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Mitsu also does work day shift, so does Angelique from Russia, both are good service providers.
HB
Avoid Kiara (. De). She's a 100 EUR / 30min girl. Bee could be there; she's working Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Mitsu also does work day shift, so does Angelique from Russia, both are good service providers.
HBIs Kiara the tall blonde statuesque beauty? I thought she said she was from Germany but I could be wrong. Too bad she's a 100 euro girl but by looking at her I'm sure she's going to get her asking price often. I was thinking about returning to Palace just to see her since she was close to the top of my to do list but I didn't session with her because she was busy all day. Was Kiara not a 50 euro girl before? Is Angelique as hot as Kiara?
I just got back from my Hessen tour but I left off Palace this visit. I'm going again next month and I might put it back on my schedule if this shark business is taken care of. Thus far the top girls of my to do list are all 100 euro girls so I'm not really planning to go.
Forzagermania
02-22-11, 22:08
Avoid Kiara (. De). She's a 100 EUR / 30min girl. Bee could be there; she's working Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Mitsu also does work day shift, so does Angelique from Russia, both are good service providers.
HBHey,
I booked her during my visit in January and she offered me great service for normal Hessen prices. But we did CIM and I knew her already from previous visits. I think this also has something to do with it. So nothing to complain about her, pretty girl having your cock in her mouth is also a great view.
Hey,
I booked her during my visit in January and she offered me great service for normal Hessen prices. But we did CIM and I knew her already from previous visits. I think this also has something to do with it. So nothing to complain about her, pretty girl having your cock in her mouth is also a great view. This is going to kill me but Palace does have the hotter blondes and it being a shark tank, or not depending on who you talk to, I think I might cave in and go there again during my March Hessen tour. I'm sure Kiara is going to hit me up for 100 euros, but I'll see if I can't negotiate an hour out of it. Is she the type that rushes the session or will she actually give you the whole hour?
Goodtime Man
02-24-11, 01:37
This is not specific to the Palace, but there is an inherent problem with the FKK pricing system, IMO. For 50E, you can get a BBBJ followed by multiple sexual positions, as long as you complete the deed within 30 minutes. The girl will likely have to shower, fix hair and makeup.
But finish the BBBJ with a CIM instead of a good pounding, or heaven forbid, get a little ejaculate on a boob, and the price doubles to 100E. Basically, the easier action for her doubles the take. No wonder there is such an incentive to "upsell'. Less is more!
Tiradentes
02-24-11, 05:01
This is not specific to the Palace, but there is an inherent problem with the FKK pricing system, IMO. For 50E, you can get a BBBJ followed by multiple sexual positions, as long as you complete the deed within 30 minutes. The girl will likely have to shower, fix hair and makeup.
But finish the BBBJ with a CIM instead of a good pounding, or heaven forbid, get a little ejaculate on a boob, and the price doubles to 100E. Basically, the easier action for her doubles the take. No wonder there is such an incentive to "upsell'. Less is more! One time I inserted my finger in the a$$ of a chick for a split second.
When I handed her 50 Euros, I was flabbergasted when she asked for another 50 because of the finger thingy. Penis would have been a hundred, she added.
I paid her then cursed the hell out of her.
Petersvess
02-24-11, 19:09
Hi everyone,
I'm going to palace in the middle of March for the first time (first fkk ever). What would be your best tips / hints for a total newbie like me? Will the girls do anal? CIF?
Regards, Petersvess
Oliver Huntemann
02-24-11, 20:41
Is Kiara also known as Kimi. Seems to be a similar description of the tall blonde beuty from Berlin who I had two good sessions with.
Basketcase
02-24-11, 22:52
Hi everyone,
I'm going to palace in the middle of March for the first time (first fkk ever). What would be your best tips / hints for a total newbie like me? Will the girls do anal? CIF?
Regards, PetersvessPetersvess,
My best wishes for your first FKK visit. It must be exciting to go to a club full of naked women that will want to fuck and suck your brains out like a zombie. Of course all for a fee.
My tip is to take your time to observe the line up and pick the one that you like and gives you a good feel. No point giving specific tips on hookers to choose since your tastes will differ to mine.
Yes, many of the girls will do anal but maybe less do CIF since the girls make up gets all messed up and they have to take ages reapplying it again after the facial.
Go and fuck some ass. I mean I did anal sex 4 times on my last weekend trip. It is so much fun and also great when the girl is into it as well.
Hi everyone,
I'm going to palace in the middle of March for the first time (first fkk ever). What would be your best tips / hints for a total newbie like me? Will the girls do anal? CIF?
Regards, PetersvessBest wishes from me, too. A first visit to a FKK is a ground breaking experience. Expect to be blown away. My best advice is simply to relax and have fun!
Most guys will leave Palace with a positive experience after their first visit. But some leave disappointed after being scammed. To minimize these risks you may want to consider the following:
1. Be clean. Treat all girls with respect. Always be polite. Be a gentleman, smile and look for a good time.
2. Decide for yourself before you enter that you will not have sex the first hour, but use this first hour merely for observations. Fend politely off all girls insisting on sex right away. These can sometimes be "processor girls" with substandard service, and you will have a second chance with these girls multiple times later in the evening anyway.
3. Lie and say you have been at Palace many times and that you regularly visit Frankfurt for business / visiting friends / whatever. Never say it is your first visit, as this may encourage the scam artists to do their tricks.
4. Expect to be blown away of all the naked beauty around you, but try to look past that and
- at the lockers when payments are made: Do the guy look happy with the girl? That's a good sign. An argument is not.
- in the kino for public sex: You may feel as a stalker, but try in stead to observe how the girls are treating the guys. It will be an indication of what that girl is capable of with you later.
- look who older German guys are hanging out with. This can be a quality sign, as they are experienced regulars who will not accept second class service.
5. Be upfront with that you seek anal services. You will get a straight answer back from those girls who do not offer that service, but many will and they will be happy that you asked. Seeing 100E extra in the session will please these girls and discourage them from trying cheap tricks.
6. Take your time when picking a girl. Don't be a pushover. Spend some couch time with her making sure she gives you the right vibes.
- Ask about her services and what she will like to provide in the session. Then ask what she will charge for such services. Avoid girls who charge extra for BBBJ, DATY, DFK or "GFE". If you yield to this, then be sure girls talk among themselves how easy it is to charge you for "nothing", and then suddenly all girls will try scamming you.
- If you like a girl to kiss, then ask politely if she can show you how she will kiss you right there or in the kino. If she refuses, she will probably not do in the room. (Note: DFK on the couch is a commitment, so this is the last thing you want to do before committing yourself).
- Do not let her putting her lips around your dick unless you want to commit yourself, as BBBJ is considered a commitment no matter how short the time is.
7. Always wear a watch. Take a good look at the watch when you enter the room making the girl aware that you have noted the time (can be of value if she is trying to cut the session short).
8. If a session is not going in the right direction, don't be afraid to politely ask for a change or respectfully lead the session in the direction you want. A good provider will always do her best to please. You will surprised how easy a medicore start can lead to stellar sessions simply by asking the girl for the specifics you are looking for. And if asking does not help, well, medicore sessions happen to us all. You must be prepared to lose 50E every now and then. You live and you learn.
9. If you are being scammed, then ask politely if you and her can discuss the matter with the management. If this does not help, then report to management nevertheless. It may not help you right there, but you are taking one for the team.
Happy hunting!
And please report back of your findings. :)
3. Lie and say you have been at Palace many times and that you regularly visit Frankfurt for business / visiting friends / whatever. Never say it is your first visit, as this may encourage the scam artists to do their tricks.Firstly, that is a great list of tips, a list that will prove useful for first-time FKKers and as a reminder to so-called "old hands" as well. Thanks for writing this. Maybe there should be a separate thread with lists of tips so any interested party could simply view that as template?
When I read your Point 3 (above) I had an intriguing thought:
Perhaps when I next go to Palace (or any club for that matter) and a girl asks me if it's my first visit, it might be fun to just reverse things and blurt out, in a loud Texas accent: "Hell yeah, baby! Never been to anything like this! What are the ground rules here anyway?" Then sit back and watch them try to scam me. Since I know most of the tricks they play, and I can speak pretty good German now, it will be amusing to see the girls try to play there games and then wiggle out the the countless escape hatches that exist between the intial encounter on the couch / bar and the final cross-over of the Zimmer threshold. Remember, as long as there has been no act pre-zimmer that has committed you to a session, you can always.or almost always- abort the session before you go into the Zimmer; in fact, I recall one time with the (now departed?) Chinese Tan, where I actually walked out and aborted the session even after I had crossed into the room, after one or two minutes of talking to her and then seeing all these red flags.
It strikes me, reading your Point 3, that, if you know what's really going on inside the girl's approach to you during the initial meeting conversation, you can get "a read" on her. If she is a true GFE-provider, then maybe she will not try some of the tricks that some of the more seasoned "processors" cannot resist perpetrating on newbie visitors.
O
Curiouscdn
02-25-11, 09:50
Hey there,
I plan on visiting Palace on Sunday and maybe again on Monday if I like it. I visited Samya in Cologne about a month ago for the first time and really enjoyed it, but from what I have read here about Palace, the atmosphere is different and the girls are more aggressive and can approach you. I understand the pricing structure is different and the tips I've read will hopefully help me make it a good visit.
I was wondering if someone could explain the kino a bit to me. I know it is usually ok to have sex more than once in an hour, but will girls allow you to go twice in half an hour? I've tried searching a bit, but my lingo / slang from back home isn't turning up many results.
Thanks
Petersvess
02-25-11, 12:56
First of all, big thank you for your feedback and taking your time to answer me, it is truly appreciated!
I will do my best to report back. One thing I also is thinking about is BBBJ,
It is of course tempting. What would you experienced say about the risks? Do you always go for it?
Petersvess
When I read your Point 3 (above) I had an intriguing thought:
Perhaps when I next go to Palace (or any club for that matter) and a girl asks me if it's my first visit, it might be fun to just reverse things and blurt out, in a loud Texas accent: "Hell yeah, baby! Never been to anything like this! What are the ground rules here anyway?" Then sit back and watch them try to scam me. OHey Ortos,
I think I am hearing a poker player speaking. Calling a bluff, is that it? Nice. :) It is certainly intriguing and I wish you tried and reported back. I am sure it could be fun - and possibly work to a certain extent. I am not sure it is advisable in the long run though:
You are assuming there are two types of girls: The good ('true GFE-providers') and the bad ('processors'/'scammers'). But then you are leaving out maybe the largest group of girls: The 'chameleons', who are alternating between being 'good' and 'bad' depending who they meet. Let me explain further:
FKKs like any other p4p scene are moneydriven. The working girls - like any other worker - will like to optimize their earnings with as little effort as possible. How would they do it? Let's try a simple analysis:
- Who bring most money to the FKKs? The regulars! German guys, expats and ... maybe BC. ;) They show up weekly (daily) with their money. That is a VIP for the girls, and they will do their utmost to please these regulars because of the steady cash flow they bring with them. No shortcuts allowed.
- Who bring least money to the FKKs? The first time visitor ... Maybe he is even coming from another part of the world. What is the chance of him coming back with more money? This is when the girls are tempted to do their shortcuts.
I therefore believe that if you are playing the game as 'first time visitor' you are bearing the risk of trigging bad behaviour from girls who otherwise would have given you stellar performances.
The moral is: If you are not a regular, then do your best to act like one! ;)
But hey, it's just a theory and can certainly be debated. It makes sense to me though. And I am not the first to bring it up; I think both EL and Vito among others have presented this idea many, many times in the past.
Cheers,
S16
Who think we maybe are about to overanalyze things again ...
Vito Corleone
02-26-11, 01:13
Hi Ortos,
I remember fondly the days of Marina, Vicki / Reggie, Andra, Daniella, and other old flames / faves. When management takes steps to comabt this predatory behavior on the part of an all- too- large segment of their workers, I'll reconsider. As they continue to facilitate and abet this nonsense, they'll not get my 75 euro any time soon.
BeffenYour girl Andra was notorious for her 15-20 sessions. I remember reading bad reports on her except for yours. When I had a chance to see how hot she was in person I went ahead & picker her. Decent session until the 15-20 minute mark. She said time was over & another 50E to continue. I do not remember what happened, I think I mentioned time was not over & pounded her for another 3-4 minutes & just got up & left.
Recent reports on Denisa are mostly bad, but she was great when she first started. She can be a bit moody, but she still gives me great service.
Last month, Rocky Balboa & his Baby Gap medium shirt & 1 of the managers was trying to take care of a problem between a girl & her client. Not sure what the issue was, but Rocky & the manager sided with the client.
Vito Corleone
02-26-11, 01:24
You do exaggerate! And to say that Mitsu is mid 40s but looks great for her age is a little confusing. I'm sure you haven't seen her passport! I don't actually know her age, but doesn't look 40 to me either. Still great body (except for the bum doesn't quite do it for me) and still is magnificent in the room. One of my very top favourites. My estimate for her age: 35 (even age 29 does not seem impossible).Have you seen her passport? 29 yrs old, now who's exaggerating. Asian women especially Japanese, Chinese & Korean women age better than most Europeans. As long as you enjoy her service, who gives a fuck how old she really is.
Vito Corleone
02-26-11, 02:07
perhaps when i next go to palace (or any club for that matter) and a girl asks me if it's my first visit, it might be fun to just reverse things and blurt out, in a loud texas accent: "hell yeah, baby! never been to anything like this! what are the ground rules here anyway?" then sit back and watch them try to scam me. since i know most of the tricks they play, and i can speak pretty good german now, it will be amusing to see the girls try to play there games and then wiggle out the the countless escape hatches that exist between the intial encounter on the couch / bar and the final cross-over of the zimmer threshold. remember, as long as there has been no act pre-zimmer that has committed you to a session, you can always. or almost always- abort the session before you go into the zimmer; in fact, i recall one time with the (now departed?) chinese tan, where i actually walked out and aborted the session even after i had crossed into the room, after one or two minutes of talking to her and then seeing all these red flags.
oi play this game everytime i visit oase & palace just to see what happens (without the silly texas accent). i prey on the new babes@palace for a little entertainment. i ask how much for fs, if sucking on tits costs extra, kissing, daty & if bbbj is the normal service & etc. surprisingly, most are honest & tell the truth. when the babes eyes light up & think they found a chump, it gets really interesting."suck & fuck is 50e, but if you want no condom suck it is 150e" (30 minutes). i reply "only 150?" they start drooling. sometimes i will play the dorky shy guy & let these babes try their best to get me to commit.
the hard part is keeping a straight face while i tell them my secret fetish & fantasies. i just make up something ridiculous & their facial expression is priceless. of course the fun ends when some of the other girls start waving hi, blowing kisses or when my regulars interrupt my mojo & start kissing me.
once they find out i am not a newbie they accuse me of lying. i tell them "it is my first time. this month."
the women@oase do not try to upsell, but the romanians always mention they are from italy, spain, ukraine & etc. i always respond with "really? oh well, maybe next time. i really like romanian girls" & they are mostly speechless for 10-20 seconds. some start stuttering. priceless.
I actually play the "I have never been in this place before" every now and then. I even pretend I have never been in a brothel before and when I am feeling extra giddy, I pretend I don't even know what the place is all about (came with my friends, they told me it was a regular massage place....or some story like that). It has made some of my best as well as entertaining moments. I encourage those who know how to play the game and spot a scam to try it. It is damn good wholesome fun.
Now here is an interesting thing: I can't recall a single girl trying to scam me in this situation and some of my all time best sessions have come through in one of those games. They have been very honest in explaining the price structure, what is included etc.
Vito Corleone
02-26-11, 02:37
1. Be clean. Treat all girls with respect. Always be polite. Be a gentleman, smile and look for a good time.
3. Lie and say you have been at Palace many times and that you regularly visit Frankfurt for business / visiting friends / whatever. Never say it is your first visit, as this may encourage the scam artists to do their tricks.
4. Look who older German guys are hanging out with. This can be a quality sign, as they are experienced regulars who will not accept second class service.
7. Always wear a watch. Take a good look at the watch when you enter the room making the girl aware that you have noted the time (can be of value if she is trying to cut the session short). Great advice Shark.
I wanted to highlight 1, 3 & 7. The most important when visiting any club.
All the girls talk about us guys just as much as we talk about them. If you are not clean or act like a jerk, expect the word to spread like wild fire. Wearing a watch is really important, but no need to be obvious to the point of shoving your watch 2 inches from the girls face.
Always mention you have been to the club before. Even if the babe says "I have never seen you before" tell them it has been a long time, cut your hair, lost / gained weight, whatever. Just act like you know what you are doing.
#4 is important, but I think not so much in a large club. In the smaller clubs, mostly local German clients then this is really important.
I have not been to Palace in a couple of years, but intend to go tonight. I will play the rookie and see what happens.
Euro
Hey Ortos,
I think I am hearing a poker player speaking. Calling a bluff, is that it? Cheers,
S16.
Who think we maybe are about to overanalyze things again. Actually it is a Check-Raise. .
O
You are assuming there are two types of girls: The good ('true GFE-providers') and the bad ('processors'/'scammers'). But then you are leaving out maybe the largest group of girls: The 'chameleons', who are alternating between being 'good' and 'bad' depending who they meet. Let me explain further:A good point. No, a very good point. And it would seem that the hoards of people who, with a wave of the hand, paint the whole Palace line up as a bunch of sharky rip-off artists, miss your point too.
O
Always mention you have been to the club before. Even if the babe says "I have never seen you before" tell them it has been a long time, cut your hair, lost / gained weight, whatever. Just act like you know what you are doing.A very good technique, even if it's your first time meeting / talking to a girl, is to say right away something like: "What's your name again, schatzie?" as if you've actually met and spoken before. This way, even if you are a newbie and never been to the club before, the girl starts to doubt her own memory, and will give you the benefit of the doubt, so to speak.
O
I attended FKK Palace yesterday, Friday. I'm an experienced monger but this was only my third FKK visit, having previously attended Artemis in Berlin and GoldenTime Bruggen.
I am currently staying in central Frankfurt around 5 minutes from the main station. There are no shortage of cheap hotels in the area. I opted for the Quality Hotel, paying 59e on a walk in rate including free wifi and breakfast.
As mentioned 10 or so pages back, the club is really easy to find. Industriehof U-Bahn station, cross the tracks, walk in the direction of the train, cut through the wall, and then you'll see the signs for Palace.
The great location of Palace, in terms of the convenience and the fact that you don't have a 30e+ return for taxis or car hire, makes it that bit easier and cost effective if you are comparing clubs.
So I arrived around 4pm. Entry to the club is well reported at 75e.
First impressions. Well, Palace is clearly a very impressive venue with kind of an upmarket strip club or night club vibe. Lights dimmed, R&B music (not too loud) , nice plunge pool at one end of the main room. Just really great facilities and you feel yourself relax straight away on entering. Theres a restaurant off the side, a large porno cinema, and plenty of small and comfortable areas to relax. It's big enough and spread out enough that you could easily get some sleep for an hour if you like, which is nice if you are doing 10+ hours in the club with lots of sessions.
And the girls are just incredibly hot. At 4pm there were maybe 20, almost all nearly naked, all with red hot bodies, huge enhancied titties, all generally facially very attractive. I'm no naive monger to be handing out 9 and 10 ratings easily, but to my eyes these were all solid 9s with just a few 10s and a few 7s and 8s bring up the rear. Absolute stunners!
To my taste, you won't find a more attractive gathering of providers in a better venue anywhere in the world. Surely this is what heaven would look like?
Sadly this is where it goes downhill a little.
First, the girls are a lot more proactive and dare I say pushy in this club than they were in GoldenTime and Artemis, which I feel is a shame. They don't exactly hound you like they would in say a strip club, but you're getting propositioned at least every 10 minutes in here and sometimes with quite a lot of pressure. You have to expect that to a degree, but it can get a little draining after a number of hours or when you are just trying to relax.
And sadly, it's not the nice normal thrill of the chase that you get at some other FKKs where they take their time to talk and flirt with you and seal the deal. A few real fitties could have had me yesterday but they tried to close far too quickly. I think this is a shame as its half of the fun of the FKK experience, and you need a bit of effort on their part after so much sex.
Second, I can confirm what the others say about the seeming standardisation of the 100e fee. I'm not sure if it's just because of how hot the girls are, or if its just the fact that you would rather spend 100e on a good session than 50e on a cold one, but you always find yourself going for the 100e slower GFE session. I'm all up for extending and spending 150e+ if a session is proving to be nice and relaxed GFE, but feeling pushed into it again spoils the vibe. And by denying the kissing and DATY for 50e, its not like you have a chance to sample the genuine goods before deciding to extend. 100e per 30 minute session changes the dynamics a little as I would personally rather spend my money on well reported escorts at that rate rather than on unknowns in a sex club.
I had two sessions at the club, which were both pretty good.
Daniella. Romanian.
One of the 10s walking around in my eyes. Black stockings and absolutely perfect perky titties. Very facially attractive. Before this, I was something like 5 for 5 rip off sessions with Romanian girls before now so had sworn off them. However, as soon as I spoke with Daniella I knew I wanted to take a chance on her. Daniella was pretty good in the room. Quickly upsold to the 100e, but then proceeded to very nice OWO and some light but nice kissing. From that point on she tried to dispatch me a little quickly. I slowed her down a bit but it definetly felt a little business like in the second half of the session. It's one of those where I can't complain to be fucking such a gorgeous girl, but the session was missing something despite a promising start. Don't think I would repeat.
Adrianna (I think). Colombia.
Adrianna is a small girl, slightly more curvy than some of the others but wears it well. I would have said she was Asian in appearance, but turns out she is from Colombia. She was one of the rare girls in Palace who was happy to lay around and chat for a while without any pressure to to go the room. So when the question inevetabtly came, I decided to give her a chance over some of the other sharks. She started with a really nice massage, stretching me out, walking on my back, all of that business. Very skilled masseuse. Moved onto some very nice sloppy deep throat OWO with lots of attention paid to my balls. Some fucking in various positions and then back to the legendary OWO. Seriously, this was the best BJ I ever had out of 300+, I was in absolute heaven. We agreed at some point on a 50e CIM which is a complete waste of money, but I will be telling my grandkids about this OWO so I'm happy to have paid it.
After the second session, I was completely spent so went back to relax by the pool for an hour or so. At 8pm, wondered over to the buffet and ate some food which was really good, but such a good and large meal after that BJ and 5 sessions at GoldenTime the day before left me pretty much finished for the day. I tried to hang out in one of the rooms by the steam room, but there were some roudy Italians around there. Back to the main room, and it was starting to fill up and feel a bit gay as men outnumbered women. Went to the Kino and felt a bit annoyed at the brusque approaches of some of the women in there. I am normally a lover of Russian girls but they don't half seem to have a bad attitude in Palace for some reason. So I figured it was time to call it a day at this point.
So that concludes my first trip to Palace. It's obviously better than 99% of the days I will ever live, but at the same time, something was missing from the experience compared to my other two FKK visits. If the girls would just slow down a little, spend more time with you in the relaxation areas, and more subtly earn that extra 50e in the room, then it could be like a little heaven on earth. As it is, the providers, though seemingly good in the room based on my experience, manage to somehow take the shine off it.
Suller Joe
02-26-11, 14:34
Enough of trying to fake-rationalize your behavior and think that there are general ways of outsmarting sharks or occasional sharks. Face it. There is actually no particular tip that is guaranteed to help you in any way in any given FKK situation. What everyone uses at the FKK is what they have learned before entering.
What you should have learned in life is that it pays to be nice, clean, smell good, filing the nails and taking the shower AFTER taking the dump. And yes, it pays to be generous.
I have had a few love-stories with FKK / escort girls, so you are not protected even to that. Neither are the girls.
Suller Joe
02-26-11, 14:48
A very good technique, even if it's your first time meeting / talking to a girl, is to say right away something like: "What's your name again, schatzie?" as if you've actually met and spoken before. This way, even if you are a newbie and never been to the club before, the girl starts to doubt her own memory, and will give you the benefit of the doubt, so to speak.
OI always thought that the worst pickup line ever. For a bunch of reasons.
I always thought that the worst pickup line ever. For a bunch of reasons.It is a very bad pick-up line. But in the context of this discussion it is NOT intended to be a pick-up line, is it? The girl is trying to pick YOU up, not the other way around. And the intention is for newbies to use it so that the girl gets confused into thinking that he is NOT a newbie but has been there before.
One problem at the Palace is that while many girls will have seen my face many times, as hence ignore me, new girls don't know me and may make a bee-line for me. Its important to look disinterested and preferrably avoid making eye-contact with girls that don't interest you, unless you like to be pestered by the girls.
If asked what brings me to Frankfurt, I say that I work here, which is true, but might be a good answer for others to use too.
My advice to newbies is to try to avoid deciding to go with a girl too quickly. I like to observe her for some time first, and preferrably have a chat to suss out her style. This means its best to show up not too late, when things are a bit quieter.
P. S.
Just found out the the famous sleek blonde Romanian Daniella, now has augmented tits to go with a gorgeous bum and legs. I guess that A cups are just not accepted much anymore.
Basketcase
02-27-11, 12:16
Is Kiara also known as Kimi. Seems to be a similar description of the tall blonde beuty from Berlin who I had two good sessions with.Hallo Oliver Huntemann,
Kiara is German and Kimmi is Brazilian. Kimmi (called Cynthia) has been found working at FKK Oase to the north but has not been seen there recently. Kiara can be found at FKK Palace.
Hessen Bub
02-27-11, 12:21
Just found out the the famous sleek blonde Romanian Daniella, now has augmented tits to go with a gorgeous bum and legs. I guess that A cups are just not accepted much anymore.Daniela? Roxana's sister? Fake tits? Thought she did quit.
HB
Hessen Bub
02-27-11, 12:22
Maybe Kimi / Cynthia is back to Artemis. She was there after Palace and before Oase.
HB
Daniela? Roxana's sister? Fake tits? Thought she did quit.
HBDidn't actually see Daniella myself. Reported by another reliable person, so I trust not mistaken. Its difficult to mistake that bottom and legs.
I posted a question about Kimi/Cynthia (black hair tall Brazilian) on Artemis board but got no response at all. So I guess no one has seen her recently.
Hessen Bub
02-27-11, 14:02
Just to make sure. We are talking about Daniela, Romania, approx. 27 years old, has also been working at GoldenTime, Artemis, Mainhattan. See pictures.
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_01_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_01.jpg.html)
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_02_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_02.jpg.html)
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_03_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_03.jpg.html)
HB
OK, as announced, I decided that I would go to Palace pretending to be new to the club hobby. I had not been to Palace in a couple of years, and so there was a reasonable chance to pull this off. I arrived on Saturday evening at around 5 pm, and parking was as bad as I remembered. But after a delivery truck pulled out, I was actually able to get one last spot.
At the reception I was asked the customary 'you have been here before, right? ' and I answered 'no, and I am not sure what to expect, and I am a bit nervous'. The very pretty girl at the reception (looking quite professional in a white shirt and secretarial glasses) then went out of her way to explain the rules to me, assuring me I would be fine, and even walked into the area with the valuables lockers with me, pointing to where I could find what. So far, so good!
There were actually some changes to the club from how I remembered it. The hamam is gone and the restaurant has been moved into there, which may be bemoaned by some, but is a very fine change in my book. Some part of the main lounge has been (glass-) walled off for smokers, which improves the air quality in the rest of the place. A small relax area has been installed in the back between the bar and the pool. And the 'tent 'in the back corner has been replaced by a VIP area. Otherwise still the same excellent setup that I remembered.
I dutifully walked around, looking shyly and avoiding direct eye contact, and walking into some areas, where seasoned senior members of this forum would never venture. (For example, I wandered down the corridor with the rooms.) As we all know, the ladies are watching their prey, they study new faces, and they try to calibrate and categorize us. I decided that a newcomer would probably go to the bar, order a drink, and try to observe what is going on. Of course, this immediately invites a few ladies to try their luck on the new entry.
I always followed the same script in smiling politely and a bit shy, offering my name and home base in exchange for theirs. I let them all touch me wherever they wanted, but was careful to keep my hands to myself. They all asked if this was my first time in the club, and my story always yes. Not only the first time here, but the first time in any club. Every girl was astonished to hear this, and I always told them that I had been married until recently and thus could not possibly go to a club, and that after my (very expensive) divorce my work colleagues had recommended that I visit here and get some decent sex for a change. I figured that this would shame the worst sharks into taking it easy with ripping me off, and that I might trigger the unspoiled newbie meets professional, but kind-hearted, GFE response in some of them. Did this work? Read on and then decide.
First to come over was Natalie, who also introduced her friend Lydia, who is blond and has an almost frighteningly large rack. Then a few others, whose name and origins quickly got forgotten by subsequent similar offers and conversations. A few other girls stuck in my memory. Among them was Nicoletta, who came over twice to chat, and who looks almost like Angelina Jolie, but not quite. (Then again, even Anglina Jolie has trouble looking like Angelina Jolie sometimes. But when she does, like in Tomb Raider or that curvy bullet movie or the Mr. &Mrs. Smith thing, boy oh boh, she is gorgeous. Sorry, I digress!). Another pretty multiple-time visitor was Maya, who is kind of short, very tanned, has brown curly high, small breasts, and a very pretty smile. Another fun visitor was Marina, who proceeded to give me an excellent wanking. Good times! Chanel, the well-stacked 50/50 mixture of Brazilian and Egyptian descent, who also looks a bit like Angelina J, but in a different way, and who was very tender with me, was considered for final selection. Another good candidate would have been Carina, a very shapely blonde from Lithuania, who walked around in fishnet stockings. All in all probably 20 ladies made my acquaintance, exchanged pleasantries, and then moved on after I had made the customary [just got here / just got back from the room / maybe later / have to recuperate] refusals.
Obviously, a lot of guys prefer it when girls do not approach them, but I am not in that category. In particular this progression of friendly low-pressure conversations was very enjoyable. Most of them were aided by the location, to which I moved after a few conversations, which is at the back of the bar, next to the wall with the single gambling machine. There, girls could walk by, try their luck on me, and would not have to be in broad public display, if they got refused. I would highly recommend this location and strategy to any newcomer to the hobby, until he has a better idea on how he wants the hunts to proceed. Not every girl will come over and visit, but I found a good representative cross section did, and it included a few stunners, too.
Squarely in the stunner category is Alice, who was born in Natal, Brazil, and who lives in Spain, and who comes for two-week work periods to the Palace. She has an really pretty face, looks like 23, but claims to be 30, and has an amazing coke-bottle figure that is not enhanced artificially. She is hot, with a skin the color of very strong cappuccino, and could have been the twin of a girl named Funny, who I met / did in Rio (report here:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1054991&postcount=4959
). Softened by my stellar experience with Funny I showed the worst kind of rookie judgment and followed Alice to a room right away. I mean how could such a hot-blooded Brazilian goddess do anything but provide a stellar session? Wrong! We get to the room, and she informs me that I need to decide if I taka long session or quickie, and I need to do this right away, so that she can decide how much to engage. She also told me that DFK was an extra 50. Ah, crap. But I had not had anything as far as the hobby goes since my visit to Sakura (report here:
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?2612-FKK-Sakura-B%F6bblingen
) the Tuesday before, so I figured what the hell, let's just unload a quick first one and then search for a decent session.
Alice sucked me with the attempt to complete the deed right there and used plenty of hand. I had to stop her. Since kissing was off the menu, and since she kept her lower end safely away from my hands, I suggested that we should put on a raincoat. She was disappointed that she could not extract the 50 euro CIM bonus, but complied. She put me on my back and climbed on top. Now, a girl doing cowgirl can work it to do herself a favor or to push you to the climax. She very clearly followed plan B. I had meant to get a least a few changes of position out of this session, but the 5 days of abstinence, coupled with those truly royal breast bouncing in front of me, were too much. Bam, after 7 minutes our session was over. And that included the intro chitchat / price haggle. The guy who had played the rookie found a newbie session!
Alice is a total stunner, but also a serial processor. After I got out of the post-session shower, I sat down at the whisky bar next to the locker room and had a coffee. I swear it could not have been more than 10 minutes that passed since she pulled the condom off me, and I see her approach the valuables lockers with another guy, who hands her 50 euros. And wouldn't you know it, it was less than 30 minutes before she was there again with yet another guy. Wow, she is a master! I was witnessing a true shark artist, a Rembrandt of serial processing.
Next up, with a suitable delay for recuperation and more of the meetings of potential future ex-wives that I described above, was Tanja from Budapest, Hungary. She is a beautiful blond girl with a tremendous set of teeth, that she can use to light up the room. I figured that now the newbie would ask if she also kisses, just to prevent a disaster like the previous session. (OK, it wasn't a disaster, I have to admit: Unloading your first shot into a goddess like Alice for only 50 bucks, come on!) I figured that Tanja was consenting to kissing during the interview to close the deal. WRONG AGAIN! No kissing with her, either. But somehow her looks are right in my wheelhouse; so I relented. Another below-average session with a stunner. Man, the things I do for the purpose of staying within the rookie cover!
Can a rookie get a good session at the Palace? Yes the place is full of a tremendous selection of eye candy, easily the best in the business. And perhaps for a first-time visitor this alone is worth the 75 bucks entry fee. But can a newbie get a better deal than my first two attempts?
It was 7:30, the time that the dinner buffet opens. A line vaguely reminiscent of the Golden Time dinner queue formed, but very efficiently processed (in the good sense of the word, this time). The food is infinitely better than the low-grade dog chow at Oase, but not quite up there in the Paradise pantheon. Plus, it's fun to sit down with the girls and eat between sessions. One of my table neighbors was Alice, who blew kisses to me. I think she figured that she had given me good service and could yank another session out of me. Fat chance!
After dinner I gave up on the strategy to just sit there and offer myself up as prey to the ladies. I figured that after about three hours in the cub this rookie had earned the right to take a more active role and wander around. I saw Dilara standing at the end of the bar. She is German, from Hamburg, but was born in Turkey. She has olive skin and a very toned body. Really, VERY toned! Perfect little spinner. According to her she has been working in Palace for 8 years, and that she has many regular fans with the Yanks, who appreciate her body shape. Wouldn't doubt it!
So I approach her and smile, she introduces herself, and I give her my cover story. She asks me if I like the club, which I affirm, and then somehow this develops into a really great conversation about world politics, religion, the history of Turkey, the wearing of habibs and bukas, and what constitutes great sex. I was amazed. She clinched the deal with telling me that she likes to kiss during sex.
In the room, she was as fantastic as advertised, took her time with very sensual foreplay, gave my private parts a fantastic tongue bath, encourage DATY and 69, and actively sought getting off. We then did doggy, which she enjoyed immensely. We switch to mish, and she encourage me to pound her as hard as I could manage, which was how I found me happy ending. Mind you, this was not one of those barely-squeezing-out-one-more-shot deals, but it was producing a huge amount of man juice, which left me totally spent. She cuddled with me for the remainder of the 30 minutes. Now that was worth 50 euros!
Bottom line, can a newbie find a good session at the Palace 'shark tank'? Roger that! I think I'll be back on Thursday, for only the second visit of a club in my life. And I will repeat with Dilara.
Just to make sure. We are talking about Daniela, Romania, approx. 27 years old, has also been working at GoldenTime, Artemis, Mainhattan. See pictures.
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_01_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_01.jpg.html)
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_02_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_02.jpg.html)
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_03_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_03.jpg.html)
HBThis is indeed the one who I saw, reported below. She now has a new rack which looks and feels great. A real babe!
Hessen Bub
02-28-11, 11:02
Squarely in the stunner category is Alice, who was born in Natal, Brazil, and who lives in Spain, and who comes for two-week work periods to the Palace. She has an really pretty face, looks like 23, but claims to be 30, and has an amazing coke-bottle figure that is not enhanced artificially. She is hot, with a skin the color of very strong cappuccino.
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She also told me that DFK was an extra 50.
She was disappointed that she could not extract the 50 euro CIM bonus, She's from the Dominican Republic, she does not even speak Portuguese. Sadly Alice has aligned her program with what is possible at Palace. She did provide great service years ago, I remember when she did refuse to do CIM (which I didn't know) and I shot my load into her throat. Now I don't think I'd fuck her, although with regulars her servicve might be better.
Tanja from Budapest, Hungary. She is a beautiful blond girl with a tremendous set of teeth, that she can use to light up the room. I figured that now the newbie would ask if she also kisses, just to prevent a disaster like the previous session. (OK, it wasn't a disaster, I have to admit: Unloading your first shot into a goddess like Alice for only 50 bucks, come on!) I figured that Tanja was consenting to kissing during the interview to close the deal. WRONG AGAIN! No kissing with her, either. But somehow her looks are right in my wheelhouse; so I relented. Another below-average session with a stunner.Tanja is. Guess what. Romanian. She's an average session, fucked her before she had her bood job, also after. Nothing to write home about.
And I will repeat with Dilara.Dilara is constantly providing high level service over the 9 years I've seen her. Like most girls that have been through Atlantis.
HB
Hessen Bub
02-28-11, 11:03
Squarely in the stunner category is Alice, who was born in Natal, Brazil, and who lives in Spain, and who comes for two-week work periods to the Palace. She has an really pretty face, looks like 23, but claims to be 30, and has an amazing coke-bottle figure that is not enhanced artificially. She is hot, with a skin the color of very strong cappuccino.
She also told me that DFK was an extra 50.
She was disappointed that she could not extract the 50 euro CIM bonus, She's from the Dominican Republic, she does not even speak Portuguese. Sadly Alice has aligned her program with what is possible at Palace. She did provide great service years ago, I remember when she did refuse to do CIM (which I didn't know) and I shot my load into her throat. Now I don't think I'd fuck her, although with regulars her servicve might be better.
Tanja from Budapest, Hungary. She is a beautiful blond girl with a tremendous set of teeth, that she can use to light up the room. I figured that now the newbie would ask if she also kisses, just to prevent a disaster like the previous session. (OK, it wasn't a disaster, I have to admit: Unloading your first shot into a goddess like Alice for only 50 bucks, come on!) I figured that Tanja was consenting to kissing during the interview to close the deal. WRONG AGAIN! No kissing with her, either. But somehow her looks are right in my wheelhouse; so I relented. Another below-average session with a stunner.Tanja is. Guess what. Romanian. She's an average session, fucked her before she had her bood job, also after. Nothing to write home about.
And I will repeat with Dilara.Dilara is constantly providing high level service over the 9 years I've seen her. Like most girls that have been through Atlantis.
HB
Ha, that's very interesting. Alice spoke perfect Spanish with another girl. But when I threw a few sentences of Portuguese at her, she did not respond. I chalked this up to my lack of Porto language skills, but I know better now. That Tanja is Rumanian really surprises me, too. She actually filled in a lot of details on the Buda side of Budapest, where she claimed to be from. I really wonder why so many Rumanians seem to feel the need to deny their heritage.
i really wonder why so many rumanians seem to feel the need to deny their heritage.because they (along with the bulgarians) have an international reputation for being poor performers who will promise you the world before you get into the room and then "suck" (in a bad kind of way) when it's time to do the deed is why.
i have actually had very, very good luck with the romanian girls myself. i butt fucked one recently (at another fkk) and she was great! she aimed to please. that butthole was tight, and i didn't think i was going to get up in there. she said i was only the 5th guy she had ever taken in her ass. i believe her. that bunghole was tight!
when i penetrated up in there she was hilarious with her,"you're in my brown eye! my asshole is paradise!" i would tell her other dirty things to say and she would repeat."fuck my asshole! fuck my [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) chute! finish in my ass!" i told her,"yes your asshole is my paradise!" lol! her saying that shit with her romanian accent made me sperm in her butt as i finally loosened her bootyhole up and just rode roughshod deep in that brunette, romanian cornhole. it was all good!
Member #3451
02-28-11, 14:22
Just back from two days at the Palace (last Friday and Saturday). This was my first visit since 2008.
Impressive line-up which consisted of around 40+ girls mostly from Eastern Europe. However, I was kind of disappointed by the lack of variety in terms of girls origins. I might be wrong here but I clearly remember more spanish, german and italian girls from previous visits. Guess I miss Saskia, Sandra and Kim from 2007-2008 who were all excellent german providers.
Several girls had previously worked at Oase and claimed that Palace was "cleaner" compared to Palace.
My strategy was to be polite but firm while "interviewing" the girls so that things were clear before committing to anything. In order to make a decent first impression, if they count here, I put on some nice smelling body lotion from a well known brand. This gave immediately something to talk about and the girls loved it.
Furthermore, providers who did not kiss or wanted to charge extra for DFK passed on to the next guy.
It's clear that the goal with each session for most of the girls is for the guy to finish in their mouth or come on their body which earns them another 50. This will heavily affect your budget, at least it did with mine.
If the girl asks in the beginning of the session "-Do you want to come in my mouth?" I would say yes even if I knew it would be difficult for me. I like to think that girls then will give in some extra effort for this to happen.
Friday sessions:
Started off with a threesome with a Romanian blonde with silicon boobs, early-mid twenties, think her name might be Patricia or something and her friend who claimed she was from Italy, early thirties with curly hair and small natural boobs. No interaction between the girls (was available for an extra 50 each however).
Both girls did DFK, BBBJ, did several positions and were very responsive to my desires.
The session was a bit slow as they wiped my penis clean between the sucking and fucking each time. But a nice experience for a first threesome. Total damage 100.
IRINA from Samara Russia. One of the very few that I remembered from 2008. I was relaxing on the sun bed behind the bar upstairs when she came along. She's got a nice pair of tits and even though she could lose one or two kilos she is still a very beautiful girl with a nice and friendly attitude. Some small talk later and she was giving me a terrific blowjob on the sunbed.
After we got a room and the session turned out wonderfully. She went out of her way to make me CIM even if I gave up myself a couple of times. Excellent session. Damage 100.
After the session with Irina I left the club but asked for a re-entry coupon at the front desk to come back for free later the same day.
Next session was with a black girl claiming to be half brazilian and half american (sorry but forgot her name). Another great session including DFK, BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions and which ended in CIM. Damage 100.
Finished off the night with a stunner named CARINA from Romania. She has a really cute and innocent face and long black hair. Her natural boobs was a good handful even if she was quite skinny.
Great session again including DFK, DATY, BBBJ and several positions. Damage 50.
I returned Saturday afternoon around 4 O'clock. As Friday had been quite good with a girls to men ration of about 1-2 there were fewer punters around this Saturday. Guess the ratio girls to men was about 1-1.
Saturday sessions:
CARINA from Albania. Really cute brunette girl in her late twenties I would say. Nice smile and easy to talk with. Superb session which finished with her lying on her back masturbating with a finger in her ass and me wanking next to her. Shot my load in her mouth so total damage came to 100.
Second session was with a little columbian girl in her late twenties whose name I also forgot. She had already approached me several times along with her friend, a girl from Venezuela offering me.
A threesome. I chose to go with the columbian as she had a nice set of natural boobs togheter with a great ass. She offered anal but I wasn't into that. OK session overall. She said to have only been at Palace for a couple of days and that she stayed at the IBIS hotel next to the club. I proposed to come over to Flemings where I stayed which she declined saying she was tired.
To give an example of how tricky some girls can be: total cost of the session: 50. Since I only had a 100 note I offered to change at the reception but she said that she had change in her wallet.
She disappeared and came back two minutes later with her wallet back claiming that she only had 10 change. I insisted on having my 50 change back and mysteriously after som back and forth she "found" a 50 note.
Third session was with a girl from Estiona named CISIANA (not sure of the spelling). A blonde leggy girl with silicon tits aged 24. Her approach was different from the standard as she apparantly chose very carefully the men she sessioned with. I met her on my previous day and talked with her for about half an hour. To my surprise that day she did not want to session with me because I was too big for her. She had been in Palace for two months and had, according to herself, discovered that she enjoyed sex. To me she came about as a little bit off the whole place as she was more into the romantic side of things.
Anyway, met her again the second day and had a nice conversation before finally talking her to having a session (imagine that!) as I was curious to this girl. Session lasted probably an hour but the last 25 minutes we just cuddled in the bed and talked just about everything. She is definetely not a hardcore girl in the room more like a girl-next-door type with a GFE potential for the right guys. Covered blowjob, DFK and multiple positions. Damage 50.
Final session was sort of a miss as it was midnight and I just wanted a young girl with natural small boobs to end everything with. The decision fell outside the Kino on a girl named Marketa from Romania.
She seemed like a nice girl until we got on with the business. In the room she was complaining about me being to big for her and that she would only allow missionary position. This pulled me of a bit but I banged her the best I could without cumming. She did everything to make me cum in her mouth in the end but I knew I was unable to. Still I gave her the impression I was not far away and made her work on her blowjob skills. Damage 50. Former Oase-girl.
All in all I had two great days at the Palace. The majority of the girls are very nice and friendly and will give you a nice session for 50. For me I regret the CIMs which cost an extra 50 a couple of times but you live and you learn.
Just to make sure. We are talking about Daniela, Romania, approx. 27 years old, has also been working at GoldenTime, Artemis, Mainhattan. See pictures.
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_01_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_01.jpg.html)
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_02_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_02.jpg.html)
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_03_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_03.jpg.html)
HBYes, the one and only, she had the surgery early January.
Just to make sure. We are talking about Daniela, Romania, approx. 27 years old, has also been working at GoldenTime, Artemis, Mainhattan. See pictures.
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_01_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_01.jpg.html)
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_02_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_02.jpg.html)
http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_03_mini.png (http://borz.s2.uped.de/palace_dani_03.jpg.html)
HBHB,
If those are Pics of Daniella (Roxanna's sister) , then they are clearly showing the tit augmentation already. They don't look natural and far too big to be the original Daniella's tits. So you seem to be confirming yourself.
I guess you are doing a bit of "tongue in cheek".
Sorry I can't confirm the bottom is defintely Daniella in that pose. She would need to be standing for me to be sure. ;)
Anyway I trust my source and July gan has confirmed.
Syzygies
Hessen Bub
02-28-11, 22:15
HB,
If those are Pics of Daniella (Roxanna's sister) , then they are clearly showing the tit augmentation already. They don't look natural and far too big to be the original Daniella's tits. Hehe. No, those pictures are showing Daniela, that's for sure, but they are at least 5 years old and Daniela's tits were bigger that time. I've played with them them quite a few times.
HB
Hehe. No, those pictures are showing Daniela, that's for sure, but they are at least 5 years old and Daniela's tits were bigger that time. I've played with them them quite a few times.
HBShe has now 400ml of silicon over and above what she had.
Super Cum 500
03-01-11, 14:22
I visited both Palace & Oase late Jan & I had a great at both clubs. More girls available at Oase, but more model type stunners at Palace.How true is this statement?
I plan to visist Frankfurt but think I will only be able to visit one FKK. My main concern is appearance of girls over anything else. Obviously I need decent service but apart from I just want the hottest women. I also prefer younger if possible.
Shall I just visit Palace. Also it is closer to the train station so suits me well.
I am not bothered about facilities, food etc. I would like S. American and European and E. European girls but it is no big deal. I know Euro and E. Euro are common. WOuld like to try a S. American though
Suggest Palace is best for you, if you can only visit one.
How true is this statement?
I plan to visist Frankfurt but think I will only be able to visit one FKK. My main concern is appearance of girls over anything else. Obviously I need decent service but apart from I just want the hottest women. I also prefer younger if possible.
Shall I just visit Palace. Also it is closer to the train station so suits me well.
I am not bothered about facilities, food etc. I would like S. American and European and E. European girls but it is no big deal. I know Euro and E. Euro are common. WOuld like to try a S. American though
I plan to visist Frankfurt but think I will only be able to visit one FKK. My main concern is appearance of girls over anything else. Obviously I need decent service but apart from I just want the hottest women. I also prefer younger if possible.
I am not bothered about facilities, food etc. I would like S. American and European and E. European girls but it is no big deal. I know Euro and E. Euro are common. WOuld like to try a S. American though
The day you'll have free to visit a club is also key to having people giving you suggestions.
If it were me I'd be heading to Oase. Palace only hires women over 21, so if you want younger Oase is the place. Lots of 18 20 year olds. I've been to Palace twice. And at least from what I saw there was alot of 'work' done on the ladies who work at this club. Myself, I prefer them younger with ripe slim bodies ready for the picking. Hence my suggestion you try out Oase. There's also been many negative reports on the girls in the rooms, its a shark club where the girls will try to rip off any newbie walking thru the door. And the management backs them up when push comes to shove.
You can do public transportation there, there's even a video of how to do it on the internet http://video.yahoo.com/watch/4219833/11341019
You want a fun filled evening with hot naked women, gfe service from most and what's got to be one of the most often made goulash recipes in the world then you'll want to head to Oase.
The day you'll have free to visit a club is also key to having people giving you suggestions.
If it were me I'd be heading to Oase. Palace only hires women over 21, so if you want younger Oase is the place. Lots of 18 20 year olds. I've been to Palace twice. And at least from what I saw there was alot of 'work' done on the ladies who work at this club. Myself, I prefer them younger with ripe slim bodies ready for the picking. Hence my suggestion you try out Oase. There's also been many negative reports on the girls in the rooms, its a shark club where the girls will try to rip off any newbie walking thru the door. And the management backs them up when push comes to shove.
You want a fun filled evening with hot naked women, GFE service from most and what's got to be one of the most often made goulash recipes in the world then you'll want to head to Oase. Hey Bread,
Oase is good at the moment, but for every svelte, nubile showstopper, there are probably 2 to 4 gals who could use a serious trip to the gym and a Weight Watchers guide. (Personally ole' Dedalus wouldn't turn up his nose at a somewhat corpulent lass now and then. Jenny and Edda sure can "bring it" in the room.)
The place still has a terrific line-up, top providers and plenty of eye-candy, but the heftiness of a number of Oase ladies might surprise you.
Haven't seen the Palace line-up in quite some time, so I can't comment, but if it is the eye-candy store that some here say, and our friend is valuing that over service, then maybe Palace is where he should go.
Cheers,
Dedalus, who had not a single poor session at Oase a few weekends ago.
Basketcase
03-01-11, 23:04
i plan to visist frankfurt but think i will only be able to visit one fkk. my main concern is appearance of girls over anything else. obviously i need decent service but apart from i just want the hottest women. i also prefer younger if possible.
shall i just visit palace. also it is closer to the train station so suits me well.
i am not bothered about facilities, food etc. i would like s. american and european and e. european girls but it is no big deal. i know euro and e. euro are common. would like to try a s. american thoughhi super cum 500,
i have been to both palace and oase and recently too.
oase has a bigger line up and there are girls of all shapes and sizes. read the recent line up lists on the oase thread to get a feel. however, per capita at oase you will not find as many pretty and well kept girls as you would at palace. to me the palace girls really groom themselves. if it is appearance of your selected hooker is your main criteria then palace is the way to go if you have just one fkk.
decent service comes with you using your honed mongering skills in selecting the right counterparty for your tryst. read some of the reports of the guys that can successfully negotiate and use their charms to get the best out of a session. i take it that you are not adverse in putting in a bit of effort to get a experential return in the room with your booked lady?
true, palace has a 21 and over policy but how young do you want your hookers to be? barely legal? want them to be [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in tartan skirts, hair in pigtails and licking a lollipop? just kidding, but i hope you see my point that there are going to be young girls at palace but not under 21 year olds.
palace is also closer to town so your logistic problems are less onerous too. you should be able to find europeans, east europeans and south americans at palace.
i should be making another palace visit this month too with a crew.
Sorry. Just a test. There's a reason.
I should be making another Palace visit this month too with a crew.I thought your "crew" repeatedly veto'd your attempts to include Palace in your club to-do list?
Super Cum 500
03-02-11, 17:44
Oh right the 21+ policy makes me a bit more tempted to visit Oase. IF 21 is limit at Palace I guess many will even be 23-25+ just by averages. Whereas more 18-23 at Oase. I prefer under 23-25 in general so that can swing it to Oase.
It doesn't actually seem that hard to get to oase. I think I will have to do both so for future trips I know what they are like. Maybe less punts per trip but do both fkks as a kind of evaluation LOL
Basketcase
03-02-11, 21:26
I thought your "crew" repeatedly veto'd your attempts to include Palace in your club to-do list?One of the crew is an avid palace visitor. He also likes the pubs and gardens around the club so good to go to palace and then take a break then go back again.
The others in the crew are not so keen on palace and some have never even been and are put off by the horror stories that some writers post here.
The logistics are dictating that we may need to be in town for the initial gathering and palace wins in terms of convenience, ambiance and chicas that want to be banged for bucks. Sometimes the needs become a must.
besides i can go to palace on my own anyway without the crew as i have the opportunity. there are francophones and ice bears also that go to palace as well as german fuckers too. there is always someone down at palace.
Do you want to join us ortos?
. Besides I can go to palace on my own anyway without the crew as I have the opportunity. There are francophones and ice bears also that go to palace as well as german fuckers too. There is always someone down at palace.
Do you want to join us ortos? Well I was just going to say: I've been known to make occassional appearances at Palace now and then. And in fact, after my last visit there a few weeks ago, I had it in my mind that if I were to find myself back in FFM for, say, a couple of days, Palace would be one of the first clubs I'd visit. This thought is based purely on the quality and variety of the line-up, mind you; and, I suppose, on my confidence (sometimes ill-founded, I'll admit) at being able to recongnise and then navigate my way around the "land-mine girls in the line-up" there (as in any club) and find my way into the lower strata of Palace's deep selection of girls.
Love to join you the timing is not right.
She has now 400ml of silicon over and above what she had.Is that 200ml on each side, or 400 each?
I'm experienced with cup size but not with mls. So your description sounds scary. :eek: Are they as ridiculous as Vanessa's coconuts or more subtle hopefully? Bee, for example, has a fairly subtle set, not too overdone.
Suller Joe
03-03-11, 01:27
Anyone know if girls pay same entrance at Palace and Oase?
Hessen Bub
03-03-11, 09:16
Anyone know if girls pay same entrance at Palace and Oase?Why is everybody so curious about what the girls pay? They usually do pay the same entrance as the male guests, plus a fee if they sleep at the club plus 25 EUR if they do not have a tax number (that does only apply to some clubs).
HB
Is that 200ml on each side, or 400 each?
I'm experienced with cup size but not with mls. So your description sounds scary. . Are they as ridiculous as Vanessa's coconuts or more subtle hopefully? Bee, for example, has a fairly subtle set, not too overdone. 400 each. They are and look a bit too big.
Suller Joe
03-03-11, 12:50
Why is everybody so curious about what the girls pay?I do not know about "everybody". I just thought it might explain why some girls at Palace are said to try to get as much as they can from the customers. If revenue from one session is not enough to even pay the entrance and if two sessions merely pay for transportation, entry and makeup. Then they may need 4-5 sessions before they are past the point of being break-even for the day including food, hotel and what-have-you. If that is the case I have even less problem with some up-selling.
The "standard 50" might be a lousy pay considering everything and P mgmt may know that, making them care very little about complaints.
First FKK visit. 2/24, 2/25/2/27.
Girls:
Bee-Thailand: superstar.
Karina-Romania: not for everyone. Petulant. Moody. I loved her.
Marina-Moldova: fine at the time, misgivings about her later.
Alexa-Romania, claims Greece: great girl, talked her out of an upsell for DFK upon repeat.
Daniela-Moldova: not the same as another referenced on this thread. A cups. Bizarre session. Eccentric. Can't recommend but I enjoyed her.
Kelly-France (Senegal?).a bit slick but had a good time.
Juliana-Venezuela: soft, natural style. Fine time.
Suzianna (sp?).Latvia: kinda weak but I enjoyed her.
Abby (sp?).Germany. Wonderful girl.
Alice-Dominican Republic by report, still claims Brazil: slick, hype, fine optic-fuck.
Isabella-Hungary: Hungarian / Thai mix. Tiny. Great session.
Andrea-Columbia: 3some with her pal Julianna above: terrific.
Lisa-Romania: very nice time.
No upsells in the room (1 brief attempt). Enjoyed every session. No disappointments of any kind at the club. Incredible first time experience.
Angus Magee
03-03-11, 17:26
First FKK visit. 2/24, 2/25/2/27. .I am to understand that this was all in one visit? If so you may have set some sort of record. Thirteen girls in one day. You the MAN.
Thanks for the report.
AM
Angus,
First, thanks for your help on the general info thread. This was a 3-day visit: last Thursday, Friday, and Sunday. I limited myself to 5 sessions per day as I had understood that coming 7 times or more per day was bad for your health.
Just kidding.
I was going to say that I don't know what all the fuss is about re Palace sharks. However, I do believe and respect the complaints. I just got lucky with 'my' girls. Also, performance levels in many sessions were not what regulars would require; did not meet standards. But I was determined in advance to maintain a good humor and positive attitude. I truly enjoyed every girl.
Angus,
First, thanks for your help on the general info thread. This was a 3-day visit: last Thursday, Friday, and Sunday. I limited myself to 5 sessions per day as I had understood that coming 7 times or more per day was bad for your health.
Just kidding.
I was going to say that I don't know what all the fuss is about re Palace sharks. However, I do believe and respect the complaints. I just got lucky with 'my' girls. Also, performance levels in many sessions were not what regulars would require; did not meet standards. But I was determined in advance to maintain a good humor and positive attitude. I truly enjoyed every girl. You got GFE for 50 euros from everyone but 1 girl? Definitely different from when I was there. I'm visiting Palace in 2 weeks so I guess I'll find out if things are different for me this time around.
You got GFE for 50 euros from everyone but 1 girl? Definitely different from when I was there. I'm visiting Palace in 2 weeks so I guess I'll find out if things are different for me this time around.Bluat,
If you are going next week then check out Svetlana from Russia. She is 32 yrs old, provides kissing, DATY etc for 50, she didn't even attempt to up sell me when we were in the room. Spoke decent English to understand your desire. She said she usually goes home during the Summer season so if you are heading to FRA in a few weeks you should catch her. She always starts late around 9 ish so stay around the front bar and you should see her venturing in around 8:30.
She is 5. 4' without heels. She has wavy long blonde hair. Nice firm ass for a 32 yrs old. Natural C cup. And she wears glasses which makes her looks her age but ask her to take it off when you guys are in the room she looks much younger than 32 without the specs.
Have fun.
W.
Bluat,
I only received full GFE for 50E from Bee, Alexa, Abby, Isabella, Andrea (in 2:1) , Lisa.
I received only light kissing from Kelly, Suzianna, Julianna, Alice (brief) , Marina (brief).
The only upsell attempted in the room was by Alexa during a repeat session. She wanted extra 50E for DFK. It sounded as if she had come under the evil spell of another girl. I was able to talk her out of it. She then committed with passion rather than reluctance.
Daniela demanded a 60 min. 100E session in order to kiss. I had pre-determined that the answer to such a requirement would be no. But she was too cute to pass up. In the room she backed off kissing, whipped out a condom for the BJ, claiming knowledge of disease in the club, and talked the entire hour except during BJ but including during fucking. It was bizarre. But she remained involved with me and instead of wanting to puke and run for the door I was somehow inclined to respond in conversation, etc. I liked her. I was shorted on service but did not care.
A few refused DATY (I only actually did it with ABBY). The rest I didn't ask, didn't care.
I accepted a reduced level of service from all but the GFE girls because they were nice to me and had pleasant attitudes and I enjoyed what they did do. Karina refused in advance to kiss and her attitude was not always pleasant ("If you kiss me I will kill you"). But I found her act to be hilarious and I was crazy for her.
My interviews were brief. The only service I inquired about was kissing, and I did not specify DFK often enough.
All sessions were 30 min. 50E, except for Daniela's 60 min. 100e, and the 2:1 30 min 100E.
Bluat,
If you are going next week then check out Svetlana from Russia. She is 32 yrs old, provides kissing, DATY etc for 50, she didn't even attempt to up sell me when we were in the room. Spoke decent English to understand your desire. She said she usually goes home during the Summer season so if you are heading to FRA in a few weeks you should catch her. She always starts late around 9 ish so stay around the front bar and you should see her venturing in around 8:30.
She is 5. 4' without heels. She has wavy long blonde hair. Nice firm ass for a 32 yrs old. Natural C cup. And she wears glasses which makes her looks her age but ask her to take it off when you guys are in the room she looks much younger than 32 without the specs.
Have fun.
W. She's a little old for me but I guess I'll see what she looks like in person.
At Palace I'm mainly interested in the A-list girls, and the last time I was there I think maybe only 5-10 girls belong in that category. That was back during the second week of January so there are probably more girls now then there was then due to the holidays.
I'm not really looking to take a B-list girl because I'm going to go to Oase and World the next couple of days and pretty much every A-list girl in those clubs gave GFE for 50 euros. I'm only going to Palace because they have about 2-5 girls that are just hotter then any girl at any FKK club I've visited thus far. I'm looking to indulge myself with those handful of girls even though I know it's probably going to cost me 100E for GFE. Actually I'm pretty sure it's going to cost me 100E. Almost all of those girls have approached me once and they've quoted me 100E before so I don't plan on them quoting me anything differently this time around.
Sure I could try some of the other girls that maybe aren't as beautiful but hot enough to satisfy my carnal cravings, but why would I want to order a hamburger when there is prime rib around? I don't want to encourage this type of sharky behavior, and normally I wouldn't, but thus far I've not seen these stunners at any other clubs.
I can't remember the girls' names off the top of my head but Kiara and Cheyenne I know are two potential girls I want to be with and both are 100E girls. If anyone else can suggest any other girls equal to their beauty but only cost 50E then please let me know.
Hessen Bub
03-04-11, 09:29
I just thought it might explain why some girls at Palace are said to try to get as much as they can from the customers. If revenue from one session is not enough to even pay the entrance and if two sessions merely pay for transportation, entry and makeup. Then they may need 4-5 sessions before they are past the point of being break-even for the day including food, hotel and what-have-you. If that is the case I have even less problem with some up-selling.The difference in entrance (plus other cost) between Palace and for example World and Oase is exactly 10 EUR. That does not explain of justify any up-selling or rip-off.
HB
That does not explain of justify any up-selling or rip-off.
HBOr for management to back them up on said rip off when you go to complain to the front desk. It is what it is.
Oliver Huntemann
03-04-11, 18:44
Sitting now at Flemings hotel right by the Palace. (can't stay any closer than that). Arrived today Friday about 2. Pm. Club was rather quiet. I had a meal and then headed to the kino. Was approached by a Hungarian girl but I was not interested. Had a beer and was approached by a silicone blonde from Poland called MARLENE? We went to the kino where she brought her blonde Polish friend (forgot name). Had a nice threesome with them. Lesbian show, blowjob with condom (which was dissapointing). But the sex was great and I came missionary while Marlenes friend's pussy was sitting on her. We had a good talk about some things. Overall very nice girls.
After that I felt hungry. Ate some pasta and chicken (ok food). Went for a rest in the relaxing area. Then I saw CHEYENNE. Had 2 sessions with her last year and loved it. She recognized me and we headed to the room. OH MY GOD she has a perfect body. Did kissing, multiple possitions, BBBJ and cim. Damage 150. Great session.
Then I went to a Sauna sessions with arthur. Melted there and cooled off in the jacuzzi. Then KIMMI the blond berlinette arrived. My other Palace favorite. Classic blonde, perfect body and really delivers. Feeling pretty drained I went in and she gave me a long blowjob. Fucked her a little bit but she did some sexy kissing too get me off (jerked off) in her mouth. Talked for some time. Another fine sessions. Such a hard life. Hhahahaha.
Now its 7 o clock. Going to have a rest now. Another visit tonight or tomorrow. Any thoughts on some girls for tomorrow?
Why is everybody so curious about what the girls pay? They usually do pay the same entrance as the male guests, plus a fee if they sleep at the club plus 25 EUR if they do not have a tax number (that does only apply to some clubs).
HBEarly starter girls pay less to get in than late starters I believe. I forgot the fine details.
Cost to stay the night is 25 Euro (shared room) , but some girls have a permanent spot and pay by the week.
Girls do go through a lot of makeup, creams, etc, which could be costly if they use expensive brands like Lancome.
The main issue really is that girls with few regular customers and not so hot looking, can be struggling to make much money, which may cause some attempted upsell.
Some girls are just too lazy to provide really good service without added incentive of extra bucks.
But I don't believe that accepting upsell, in any way gets a "GFE". It probably only gets a token attempt at it.
I often take girls for more than 30 mins but not unless I already know how they perform.
"Good" girls with plenty of regulars don't really need to upsell because they can be quite busy. Some even have problems juggling multiple regular customers wanting to attend the club at similar times.
Busy girls can make several hundred Euros in a day, maybe even past 1K if they do CIM and anal, and they don't generally pay high taxes, unlike us guys in regular jobs.
Crap looks like I'm going to Palace during a Messe. Anyone have any experience with the ISH Messe on a Friday. It's not a major messe is it? Hopefully it won't be too unbearably busy.
Super Cum 500
03-05-11, 06:53
Sorry if this info is already here (if so, could possibly link?)
But if staying around the train station directions / info to get to Palace and Oase. Costs. And taxi prices / advice if using taxi rather than public transport.
I'd imagine public transport to go there during day. Say whats a good time 5-7pm? Then leave at say 12-1am?
Then return back via taxi for safety / ease?
Also, any advice on areas of train station RLD area to explore and ideal times to explore also appreciated.
(In return I will off course write up full trip report and how it went, travel info etc.)
PS- should I plan to not go during a Messe. ANy advice on specific days to go to PAlace / Oase. Midweek, Staurday night, SUnday, Daytime, NIghtime etc.
Cheers.
Thanks,
Super Cum 500
Hessen Bub
03-05-11, 12:18
Early starter girls pay less to get in than late starters I believe. I forgot the fine details.I never heard about that and I do not think it is correct.
HB
Crap looks like I'm going to Palace during a Messe. Anyone have any experience with the ISH Messe on a Friday. It's not a major messe is it? Hopefully it won't be too unbearably busy.Actually, I'd be more worried about the high hotel prices in FFM area than the crowds. Crowded conditions can be sometimes compensated by the improved quality and volume in the girl line-up and / or by starting your club activities a bit earlier than normal.
O
I never heard about that and I do not think it is correct.
HBTurn up just before 10AM one day Bub, and witness the long queue of girls paying their money before 10AM so that they get the discounted price. If they show up at 11AM, for example, they pay more.
The reliable no bullshit girl explained it to me. There needs to be incentive to get girls starting early, otherwise very few girls would be there at starting time.
I have showed up at 10AM on Saturday, many times. ;)
Dear readers,
My first visit to Palace, just had to see what the fuzz was about. Normally I like to go to Artemis or to Barcelona or Prague but I had a business meeting in Frankfurt so I decided to make it to Palace and see for myself what everybody were talking about.
The cab ride from Hauptbahnhof was around 13 Euro, pretty descent compared to Oase (40 euro)
The first thing that threw me off was that they didn't accept credit cards for the entry fee. Since I paid the entrance for me and a friend it took away 150 Euro of fucking money. No way that I was going to use their crappy ATM in the lobby. Probably would have charged me extra.
Got a robe, dressing room was ok, showers pretty standard. Small shitty lockers, not good when you have a large winter jacket to put inside.
Made it to the bar area, were about 20-30 girls there and probably the same amount of dudes, didin't really notice the guys since I am not interested in that. Must say that there were a lot more arab looking guys and Italians at this place than I am used to, not that I am a racist or so but large packs of guys from southern parts of the world are not appreciated in my book. They just make a lot of noise and the girls that I talk to don't like them either.
They have a shitty system for when it comes to paying for drinks, for every item you order in the bar they put like a coin with a hole through it and attach that to your locker key bracelet. And they suck at informing you about the prices, my friend got a nasty surprise when he had to pay on his way out, way more than he expected for a couple of vodka red bulls.
Most girls were pretty aggressive, jumping you almost instantl and being pretty pissed when you let them down.
When I usually go to a new place I like to take my time and scout the place, down two-three drinks and then talk to somebody and get a nice connection with them, not just be approached with, Hey you want to fuck!
Turned down quite a few girls before I saw somebody I just had to put my penis inside to, I tall brown haired girl in a ponytail, I can never remember names so if you btalk to somebody gorgeous with half German and half Spanish it is probably her.
Went into a room with her and got my first ejaculation off, paid her 50 Euros. Standard blowjob without condom and doggy style for three minutes, she wanted to stay and kiss but I turned her down.
Went back, ordered more beer and scouted the room. An aggressive tight Egyptian girl threw me down on the couch and started to kiss me and jerk me off in front of everybody. She really got me hard as hell so I went with her to the room. She immediately started to upsell me, trying to charge me more and offer me CIM (don't care for that) more time, anal and so on. She kept nagging so much that I was about to leave but in some way I just wanted to make her suffer so I said. 100 Euro for 1 hour anal. She accepted the offer but she regret that as soon as she saw my full erection, when I started to pound her she begged me to stop, said that she can't handle all of me and not in a hardcore style, gave me back 50 Euro and told me that she was really sorry and that I should have said in advance that I wanted rough sex. I thought tat this was a joke, put my clothes back on and went out to the bar again.
Just passed my friend who had gone with his third platinum blond silicone bimbo to the room. Everybody has their own taste I guess. Ordered another beer and got trapped by two girls in the bar. One of them was a stunning Russian girl with long legs. She made me really hard so I took her in the hand and led her to one of the rooms.
Told her that before anything happens, I want to fuck rough, she said no problem but after she started sucking my dick the upselling began. I turned down all of her offers, turned her around and fucked her for like five minutes, then when we switched positions she tried to talk me into paying more again for bullshit services I didin't want, I got mad and put my clothes on. What the fuck is wrong about this place and the girls working here? At oase and Artemis you never get this type of treatment? And bare in mind that I am a great looking young guy so I am even more supprised that this happens to me.
Being put off by the experience I am trying to find my friend, caught up with him by the pool. He had by now fucked 4 girls and was really exhausted. He didin't care about the upselling, he has a really naggy old ***** at home so he is just happy to get some attention. Plus he hasn't that much to compare with. At least not on the German brothel scene.
A blond girl approached us in the middle of the conversation and he immediately fell for her, left alone I lied by the pool and thought about my next day in Frankfurt and that I had to switch venue the next day, the ride to Oase is really a shitty one and costs 40 Euro one way with a cab. But the girls at Palace were not my cup of tea. Upselling and pushy doesn't get me going.
Just as I was about to leave a stunning tall blond Russian girl (and I always try to avoid the Russian girls since I think they are lousy lovers in my opinion) stopped me and started kissing me by the bar, since I only had come once during my night at palace I went to the room with her and had a 5 minute fuck from the back standing and that was my grand finale of the night.
All in all I can say that if you don't care about GFE or polite manors, Palace is a good visit, better than the houses near Hauptbahnhof. But if you want more out of your German FKK experience, Artemis or Oase is the place for you.
Best regards.
O
Actually, I'd be more worried about the high hotel prices in FFM area than the crowds. Crowded conditions can be sometimes compensated by the improved quality and volume in the girl line-up and / or by starting your club activities a bit earlier than normal.
OI agree with Ortos,
Messe works in your favour (except for Hotel prices) , by ensuring good line up of girls, but the key is not to turn up to the Palace late in the evening when starts to get overcrowded. Plan to start early and leave around midnight.
Many girls that show up after 9PM are in the "processor" category and like to make quick turnover of a large number of desperate guys. I would recommend guys to arrive well before that time, preferrably when dayshift girls are still there.
Turn up just before 10AM one day Bub, and witness the long queue of girls paying their money before 10AM so that they get the discounted price. If they show up at 11AM, for example, they pay more.
The reliable no bullshit girl explained it to me. There needs to be incentive to get girls starting early, otherwise very few girls would be there at starting time.
I have showed up at 10AM on Saturday, many times. . Not sure how it works at Palace, but the incentive for the girls at Oase and World to start the early shift is that they can knock off before midnight, and don't have to stay till closing.
I'd tend to trust HB's knowledge on this type of info.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I.
I agree with Ortos,
Messe works in your favour (except for Hotel prices) , by ensuring good line up of girls, but the key is not to turn up to the Palace late in the evening when starts to get overcrowded. Plan to start early and leave around midnight.
Many girls that show up after 9PM are in the "processor" category and like to make quick turnover of a large number of desperate guys. I would recommend guys to arrive well before that time, preferrably when dayshift girls are still there. Yup I saw the hotel prices and even the hostels are going for something like 90-120 euros when normally they are 30 euros or less. I was thinking of renting a car and doing the NRW fkks and maybe World. I'll probably hit up Palace Friday morning and leave for the NRW by 6. Anyone know which is the best club on a Friday evening?
Oliver Huntemann
03-05-11, 17:26
Arrived at Palace around 14. 00. Kimmi and Cheyeene approached me for a threesome but I declined. I had a bit of a hangover and just wanted to relax. Got horny watching some porn in the Kino. I sessioned with KIARA from Berlin. Blonde nice silicone tits, just my tipe. Did blowjob. 69, pussy licking and kissing and sex for 100 euro. Really enjoyed her. The place was reallly quiet because of the Carnival.
Might go back toninght, we'll see!
Hessen Bub
03-05-11, 21:28
Sorry, but a report without the girl's names is almost worthless.
They have a shitty system for when it comes to paying for drinks, for every item you order in the bar they put like a coin with a hole through it and attach that to your locker key bracelet. And they suck at informing you about the prices, my friend got a nasty surprise when he had to pay on his way out, way more than he expected for a couple of vodka red bulls.Don't know what you're talking about. If you order drinks, they tell you that they will be charged to your coin. There's menus at both bars showing the prices. Yes, they are quite high, but don't try to put the blame on the club if you get surprised when checking out.
HB
Oliver Huntemann
03-05-11, 22:33
Today I did two sessions. First with blonde Kiara from Germany, silicone tits. She was really nice. Did some DATY, OWO and fucked her missionary while kissing her. Really intemate session. Second session was with Daniela? From Moldavia. Platinum blonde, fake tits and an ass to die for. I fucked her from behind and finished by fucking her while she layed on her stomach. Tight small pussy. 2 days at the Palace were quite nice. Did 6 girls in 2 days and me and my little pecker are happy.
In my opinion the quality of the girls in the club in very good. The club is very clean and food is ok. But Palace is getting expensive. The 50 euro session is quite hard to get with any quality. A 100 will get the girls going nowadays.
But they have some A class german girls there (Cheyenne, Kimmi, Kiara) and that is worth returning any time.
Next up is Dusseldorf in 2 weeks. Planning on going to Living Room and this summer Artemis.
Basketcase
03-06-11, 00:30
Crap looks like I'm going to Palace during a Messe. Anyone have any experience with the ISH Messe on a Friday. It's not a major messe is it? Hopefully it won't be too unbearably busy.Here is me praying that it is not so as well. We will see. I may go to west country instead.
Messe brings in a lot more girls, amateurs or girls come specially from other areas to work the messe. Expect rooms to be busy with long waits in the evening. Less busy and waits for rooms in the day time when the delegates are meant to be at the messe.
Here is me praying that it is not so as well. We will see. I may go to west country instead.
Messe brings in a lot more girls, amateurs or girls come specially from other areas to work the messe. Expect rooms to be busy with long waits in the evening. Less busy and waits for rooms in the day time when the delegates are meant to be at the messe. Same here basketcase I think I might skip Palace on Friday and just drive to the NRW clubs. Maybe I'll see you there. My new plan is Goldentime Friday morning to afternoon and then VV in the evening. Then FKK World on Saturday and maybe Palace on Sunday or maybe World again.
Basketcase
03-06-11, 00:57
Same here basketcase I think I might skip Palace on Friday and just drive to the NRW clubs. Maybe I'll see you there. My new plan is Goldentime Friday morning to afternoon and then VV in the evening. Then FKK World on Saturday and maybe Palace on Sunday or maybe World again.Bluat,
That is an excellent combination: Golden Time in the day time then Villa Vertigo in the evening for the DJ and disco party later on.
Golden Time kicks off at 11:00 in the morning with a decent line up since it a continuously busy club even in the day time. I am amazed how quick the Golden Time club fills up at 11:00.
FKK World on a Saturday is a must. DJ Andy on the decks and naked Romanian and Bulgarian hookers dancing their little hearts out. The ISH messe finishes up on Saturday. Hotel prices I see normalise on Saturday night.
Palace on a Sunday is a nice end. Palace quality good lookers and they will be in less shark mode since it is a slower Sunday with less men to process.
That is a nice little circuit of NRW and Hesse clubs.
My program adds in Mainhattan too but I have more time in country than you.
Bluat,
That is an excellent combination: Golden Time in the day time then Villa Vertigo in the evening for the DJ and disco party later on.
Golden Time kicks off at 11:00 in the morning with a decent line up since it a continuously busy club even in the day time. I am amazed how quick the Golden Time club fills up at 11:00.
FKK World on a Saturday is a must. DJ Andy on the decks and naked Romanian and Bulgarian hookers dancing their little hearts out. The ISH messe finishes up on Saturday. Hotel prices I see normalise on Saturday night.
Palace on a Sunday is a nice end. Palace quality good lookers and they will be in less shark mode since it is a slower Sunday with less men to process.
That is a nice little circuit of NRW and Hesse clubs.
My program adds in Mainhattan too but I have more time in country than you. I went to World a couple of weeks ago but I really didn't notice a lot of dancing on Saturday. Sure there were a couple of guys and girls that would sway to the music but it was rather brief. Dj Andy did play some pretty awesome sets though.
This will actually be my first visit to the NRW clubs so I'm excited to see what it's all about. I can't make Manhattan this time but I'll include it in my May visit. BTW I wanted to try out Teenyland Saturday morning before heading down to world. Does anyone know if the lineup is any good around 11?
My new plan is Goldentime Friday morning to afternoon and then VV in the evening. Then FKK World on Saturday and maybe Palace on Sunday or maybe World again.Are you aware that if you visit GoldenTime during the day, you can get a special pass that will give you entry to their sister club, LR, at a reduced Eintritt price of 25euros? This is a great combination of clubs.
O
Hessen Bub
03-06-11, 10:47
Are you aware that if you visit GoldenTime during the day, you can get a special pass that will give you entry to their sister club, LR, at a reduced Eintritt price of 25euros? This is a great combination of clubs.
ODone that quite often, it's a perfect day.
HB
Are you aware that if you visit GoldenTime during the day, you can get a special pass that will give you entry to their sister club, LR, at a reduced Eintritt price of 25euros? This is a great combination of clubs.
OIs the party scene better at living room then VV? Saving 25 euros is good but not at the expense of diminishing my experience.
Is the party scene better at living room then VV? Saving 25 euros is good but not at the expense of diminishing my experience.I know the scene in LR gets very much "a party buzz" esp after 23. 00. I really like it when the girls start dancing on the bar for sometime; I'm not sure, but it might have become an LR tradition that some girls engage in at a specific time, e. G. 00. 00.
For me, the "diminshed experience" would be in the quality of the girl line-up. At LR, they have a very good line-up (again, for me). I am not that familiar with VV, so I don't want to make any definitive statements. From reading the reports on both clubs, one emerges with a feeling that the VV scene on a Saturday can be good, but perhaps too much party for me, as the focus can be on the DJ's performance, not on the girls. But best consult some of the VV experts.
I just know that whenever I visit GT, which is (for me) a "must-see" club, the scene there denegerates significantly in terms of favourable mongering conditions after 18. 00. So I now almost always do my work at GT between 14-18. 30, then make my polite good-bye, picking up a 25e pass at the GT reception desk on the way out, then hit LR from 20. 00ish onwards for the balance of the night.
Additional notes:
- The food at GT can be pretty good and they serve it at about 17 or 17. 30. So a good practice is to have a couple of sessions in the afternoon, time it so you can eat a good fresh dinner there at 17. 30/18. 00, then chill for a while and decide if you really want another session at GT or not, before you leave for LR.
- Try to arrive at LR by or before 21. 00, I think, as a good way to ease into the scene there. Spending the balance of the evening at LR (for only 25e additional Eintritt fee) gives me a psycological boost after GT, almost like a second wind. There is a completely fresh line-up of up to 50+ girls, and indeed a different vibe than GT. Personally, I am not too keen on the GT vibe after 19. 00, I don't know why.
- LR closes at 03. 00, so there is a more relaxed approach to late night mongering vs the kind of frenzied hunt for a decent session one often must engage in at GT later in the night. The room waits at LR after 20. 00 are, on balance, less than at GT during the same time period, in my experience.
- Finishing the night at LR makes it easier to stay in a hotel in / near D-dorf, which I find personally more compelling than out in the sticks of Bruggen.
Finally: It is assumed that you will have a car in order to come / go and take advantage of this unique cocktail of FKK clubs.
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And bare in mind that I am a great looking young guy so I am even more supprised that this happens to me.And you are so modest as well.
And you are so modest as well.Good one! .
Sebastiane
03-08-11, 02:19
Hi,
I am an old time poster on here and am hoping to return to FKK Palace for a visit in April. I am hoping to combine it though with a visit to other FKK clubs too including Ying Yang on the Dutch side of the German Holland border. I hope to end it in Artemis. Which other FKKs would you recommend given I will be travelling by public transport and would need to stay in nearby hotels overnight? Would it be feasible to do YY-X-Palace-the new one FFM-Oase-X2-Artemis? What are the best ones to fit in where my X and X2 are? World perhaps? And one other? How about Living Room? Or Bernds? Or Golden Time!
Someone like HB or Basketcase or Angus should be able to help I hope!
Vito Corleone
03-08-11, 11:13
Is the party scene better at living room then VV? Saving 25 euros is good but not at the expense of diminishing my experience.Both clubs have great party scenes on Fri & Sat. I would say VV is better if you just want to dance around with girls & listen to music. There are some hot babes but also long lines for rooms. Not really worth the extra 25E unless you are planning on visiting again on Sunday as all guests who visit during the week receive a free entry on Sunday.
I also enjoy watching the shorter babes dancing behind the bar@LR, but it is the lineup & reduced entry fee that makes LR a better choice. LR also closes@4am where as VV closes at 3am.
Hi,
I am an old time poster on here and am hoping to return to FKK Palace for a visit in April. I am hoping to combine it though with a visit to other FKK clubs too including Ying Yang on the Dutch side of the German Holland border. I hope to end it in Artemis. Which other FKKs would you recommend given I will be travelling by public transport and would need to stay in nearby hotels overnight? Would it be feasible to do YY-X-Palace-the new one FFM-Oase-X2-Artemis? What are the best ones to fit in where my X and X2 are? World perhaps? And one other? How about Living Room? Or Bernds? Or Golden Time!
Someone like HB or Basketcase or Angus should be able to help I hope! One really needs to consider if all the travel is worth it, when just wanting to do FKK.
Pick out the top 3 or 4 clubs maybe. Always good to try something new. But why try do so many?
Not sure I can see the point to it, other than wanting to become a knowledgeable expert on them all, or sheer curiosity?
You won't run out of girls you want to fuck so quickly at each venue.
Chico Charlie 1
03-10-11, 12:30
I sincerely wish Jackson would clean this forum of chit chat of all other clubs for which there are several other options.
May only reports of palace be posted.
Thank you fellow mongers.
Charlie
Excuse the dumb question but: When did Palace start selling alcohol? Happy to hear they do now!
Dear readers,
My first visit to Palace, just had to see what the fuzz was about. Normally I like to go to Artemis or to Barcelona or Prague but I had a business meeting in Frankfurt so I decided to make it to Palace and see for myself what everybody were talking about.
The cab ride from Hauptbahnhof was around 13 Euro, pretty descent compared to Oase (40 euro)
The first thing that threw me off was that they didn't accept credit cards for the entry fee. Since I paid the entrance for me and a friend it took away 150 Euro of fucking money. No way that I was going to use their crappy ATM in the lobby. Probably would have charged me extra.
Got a robe, dressing room was ok, showers pretty standard. Small shitty lockers, not good when you have a large winter jacket to put inside.
Made it to the bar area, were about 20-30 girls there and probably the same amount of dudes, didin't really notice the guys since I am not interested in that. Must say that there were a lot more arab looking guys and Italians at this place than I am used to, not that I am a racist or so but large packs of guys from southern parts of the world are not appreciated in my book. They just make a lot of noise and the girls that I talk to don't like them either.
They have a shitty system for when it comes to paying for drinks, for every item you order in the bar they put like a coin with a hole through it and attach that to your locker key bracelet. And they suck at informing you about the prices, my friend got a nasty surprise when he had to pay on his way out, way more than he expected for a couple of vodka red bulls.
Most girls were pretty aggressive, jumping you almost instantl and being pretty pissed when you let them down.
When I usually go to a new place I like to take my time and scout the place, down two-three drinks and then talk to somebody and get a nice connection with them, not just be approached with, Hey you want to fuck!
Turned down quite a few girls before I saw somebody I just had to put my penis inside to, I tall brown haired girl in a ponytail, I can never remember names so if you btalk to somebody gorgeous with half German and half Spanish it is probably her.
Went into a room with her and got my first ejaculation off, paid her 50 Euros. Standard blowjob without condom and doggy style for three minutes, she wanted to stay and kiss but I turned her down.
Went back, ordered more beer and scouted the room. An aggressive tight Egyptian girl threw me down on the couch and started to kiss me and jerk me off in front of everybody. She really got me hard as hell so I went with her to the room. She immediately started to upsell me, trying to charge me more and offer me CIM (don't care for that) more time, anal and so on. She kept nagging so much that I was about to leave but in some way I just wanted to make her suffer so I said. 100 Euro for 1 hour anal. She accepted the offer but she regret that as soon as she saw my full erection, when I started to pound her she begged me to stop, said that she can't handle all of me and not in a hardcore style, gave me back 50 Euro and told me that she was really sorry and that I should have said in advance that I wanted rough sex. I thought tat this was a joke, put my clothes back on and went out to the bar again.
Just passed my friend who had gone with his third platinum blond silicone bimbo to the room. Everybody has their own taste I guess. Ordered another beer and got trapped by two girls in the bar. One of them was a stunning Russian girl with long legs. She made me really hard so I took her in the hand and led her to one of the rooms.
Told her that before anything happens, I want to fuck rough, she said no problem but after she started sucking my dick the upselling began. I turned down all of her offers, turned her around and fucked her for like five minutes, then when we switched positions she tried to talk me into paying more again for bullshit services I didin't want, I got mad and put my clothes on. What the fuck is wrong about this place and the girls working here? At oase and Artemis you never get this type of treatment? And bare in mind that I am a great looking young guy so I am even more supprised that this happens to me.
Being put off by the experience I am trying to find my friend, caught up with him by the pool. He had by now fucked 4 girls and was really exhausted. He didin't care about the upselling, he has a really naggy old * at home so he is just happy to get some attention. Plus he hasn't that much to compare with. At least not on the German brothel scene.
A blond girl approached us in the middle of the conversation and he immediately fell for her, left alone I lied by the pool and thought about my next day in Frankfurt and that I had to switch venue the next day, the ride to Oase is really a shitty one and costs 40 Euro one way with a cab. But the girls at Palace were not my cup of tea. Upselling and pushy doesn't get me going.
Just as I was about to leave a stunning tall blond Russian girl (and I always try to avoid the Russian girls since I think they are lousy lovers in my opinion) stopped me and started kissing me by the bar, since I only had come once during my night at palace I went to the room with her and had a 5 minute fuck from the back standing and that was my grand finale of the night.
All in all I can say that if you don't care about GFE or polite manors, Palace is a good visit, better than the houses near Hauptbahnhof. But if you want more out of your German FKK experience, Artemis or Oase is the place for you.
Best regards.
OF
Basketcase
03-11-11, 01:51
Hi,
I am an old time poster on here and am hoping to return to FKK Palace for a visit in April. I am hoping to combine it though with a visit to other FKK clubs too including Ying Yang on the Dutch side of the German Holland border. I hope to end it in Artemis. Which other FKKs would you recommend given I will be travelling by public transport and would need to stay in nearby hotels overnight? Would it be feasible to do YY-X-Palace-the new one FFM-Oase-X2-Artemis? What are the best ones to fit in where my X and X2 are? World perhaps? And one other? How about Living Room? Or Bernds? Or Golden Time!
Someone like HB or Basketcase or Angus should be able to help I hope! Hi Sybarite2006,
You pose an interesting proposition of doing a FKK and sauna club tour from Ying Yang in Roermond (Melick) to Artemis via Frankfurt by public transport and staying in nearby hotels.
Your program takes in:
1. Yin Yang in Roermond.
2. X (TBA)
3. Palace (Frankfurt am Main)
4. The new one FFM (Presume Mainhattan, Frankfurt Am Main)
5. Oase in BHH.
6. X2 (TBA)
7. Artemis (Westkreuz, Berlin)
I am not sure if this is over a 7 day period or if you have more time in between locations.
*1. Yin Yang*
I am not sure how you will be kicking off your travel. Will you be flying into Maastricht, Einhoven or Amsterdam in The Netherlands or coming from Leige, Belgium or someplace else? All of these have different possibilities. I am assuming that you can make your own way to Roermond. So we start there at Roermond train station. You will find that the buses can be found just outside the Roermond train station. Bus 79 to MLK School takes you within a few minutes walk of the Yin Yang club. Look for the canvas sign hung in the trees to locate Yin Yang behind the trees.
You can check the bus schedule on http://journeyplanner.9292.nl/ This website provides information about public transportation schedule in all Netherlands. Just note that last train from Roermond goes at 00:36 if you need to be elsewhere than the Roermond area.
As for a cheap Bed & Breakfast there is recommended a place in Swalmen, a city nearby Roermond. 27. 50 per night:
B&B Ramakers
Grindbank 42
6071 SE Swalmen (Limburg)
+31 (0) 475-53 22 25
http://www.bb-ramakers.tk
You have to book online or you can make the reservation by telephone, but be prepared to speak some Dutch. The B&B is located exactly 11 Km (7 miles) away from Yin Yang. So a taxi can do it. Just call one from the B&B and ask for one to take you back. Another option is Pension Groenewoud in Swalmen at 30 per night which is 5 Km in the north of Roermond.
* 2. X (TBA) *
My suggestion and recommendation is to get to Golden Time as my favourite club in Nord Rhein Westfalen but that is going to be a bit tough coming from Roermond. The public transport to Bruggen is not good. Once again look for the bus schedules to see what changes you need to make. On the bus map look for the bus stop Tierpark just 1-2 Km north of the village of Bruggen near the Dutch border on the B221 road.
Failing a bus, get from Roermond to Venlo in NL and then take a taxi from Venlo to Golden Time. The taxi should be a bit over 20-30 one way depending. Alternatively take the train from Venlo in NL to Kaldenkirchen in DE and take a taxi from Kaldenkirchen which will be a whole lot cheaper than coming from Venlo. The distance is much much shorter and the German taxis are cheaper than the Dutch taxis in terms of tariff. The Ride from Kaldenkirchen I understand is around 10, maybe a bit more than with oil prices the way they are. There are usually 1-2 taxis outside the station but once these go you may need to wait for a cab to rturn or call a cab. Look for the taxi number.
I suggest staying in Bruggen village to the south or in Kaldenkirchen to the north. There are good pension options in both. Although you do have to have some German as I found that English is not widely spoken by pension keepers in these two villages when I have stayed. Staying in Bruggen you can literally walk to 2 Km or so to the village from Golden Time. If you stay at Camp Heide Gastro which is 1 Km from Golden Time you are best placed and the room should be around 36 a night.
Another option is take the train from Venlo after coming from Roermond to Dusseldorf and then take train to Ikea Kaarst train stop to visit Living Room. You can walk the 10 minutes or so from Ikea Kaarst train stop to Living Room. Search the Living Room thread for details. There is the ISA hotel up and across the road from Living Room that you can book and stay after you roll out of Living Room at 04:00. You can book that online or call them.
From Bruggen where you have been to Golden Time or the ISA in Kaarst where you went to Living Room you make your way via taxi, bus and local train to Dusseldorf Hbf to pick up your ICE train to Frankfurt am Main.
* 3. Palace (Frankfurt am Main) *
From Dusseldorf Hbf you can take the ICE train to Frankfurt am Main via Cologne to the FFM Hbf.
For Palace the details of getting to the Industriehof U Bahn stop on the U6 and U7 U Bahns from the FFM Hbf are many in the Palace thread. The Palace club is just 300 metres through the copper coloured brick wall on the other side of the tracks as you come from the Hbf.
There are multiple accomodation options in FFM. Try these websites to book online:
www.otel.com
www.booking.com
www.accorhotels.com
Closests hotels to The Palace is the Ibis (down the road from the Industriehof U bahn stop) or the Flemings (directly adjacent to The Palace). There are lots of other places too.
Staying close to the Hbf is a good recommendation if you are intent on FKK hopping in FFM since you can start your travels from the Hbf to Palace, Mainhattan and Oase. Taxi from Palace to Hbf will be over 10, maybe 15 depending on when you leave and where you are so budget for that.
* 4. The new one FFM (Presume Mainhattan, Frankfurt Am Main) *
Read the Mainhattan thread for public transport details but, briefly, you can take a tram from the Hbf to Daimlerstrasse and then walk following the FKK signs to Mainhattan. If not, take a taxi from the FFM Hbf. The ride should be over the 10 mark.
There are plenty of hotel options in FFM.
* 5. Oase in BHH *
From the Hbf take the S Bahn to Friedrichsdorf stop (closest to the Oase so cheaper on the taxi) or Bad Homburg (a bit more further away from Oase so more taxi fare) and take a taxi for the rest of the way to Oase.
Stay in Friedrichsdorf or stay back in FFM for accomodation. Factor in the return trip. If staying in Friedrichsdorf there are plenty of places like The Acardia or Mercure or Jaipur. You can take a taxi back to these places from Oase. Should be just over 10 for the taxi ride. Or closest B&B is Pension Wall which is around 1 Km from Oase in the outskirts of BHH village.
The last train back to FFM from Friedrichsdorf us 00:08 so be sure to get your taxi back to Friedrichsdorf from Oase reception with time factored in to get there for the last S bahn.
* 6. X2 (TBA, suggest Das 5 Element) *
Next up is that you are on your way to Berlin from Frankfurt Hbf via public transport. My suggestion without needing to backtrack on yourself is to take the intercity or ICE train to Fulda which is on the main train line to Berlin. From Fulda you can make an attempt on Das 5 Element via taxi. Details on this club in the industrial area of Eichenzell to the south of Fulda are in the Das 5 Element thread.
I suggest Das 5 Element mainly for it being different, a pleasant stay and it is on the way to Berlin which is a big plus when on public transport. Do not expect the line up of Oase or Palace but there are gems in Das 5 Element. Treat it as a recovery day after all that fucking and enjoy the freshly prepared food selected by you from an a la carte menu that is cooked before your eyes by a dedicated chef.
I am not too up on hotels in the Fulda area but do a search using the websites:
www.otel.com
www.booking.com
www.accorhotels.com
You will have to take a taxi from Das 5 Element to your hotel as there is no close public transport to the club. Maybe best to stay close to Fulda train station so you can move easily the next day to the last leg of your journey to Berlin.
* 7. Artemis (Westkreuz, Berlin) *
From Fulda Bahnof you continue your intercity or ICE train journey to Berlin taking you to the Hbf or even the Ost bf. Public transport in Berlin is extensive with trams, U bahn and S Bahn plus taxis.
Taking the U Bahn to Artemis near the Westkreuz station is very easy. Even our hero Norjan can do it navigating the perils of the area. Read the Artemis thread for transport details and suggestions on where to stay. I know that the Kronzprinz hotel to the south is in walking distance of Artemis but it is not the most budget of hotel options. Berlin has other many hotel options which I am sure that you can explore extensively yourself.
So Sybarite2006 I hope that this is a skeleton of what you can do to get your program of Yin Yang to Artemis via the Frankfurt FKKs.
Basketcase
03-11-11, 01:53
Excuse the dumb question but: When did Palace start selling alcohol? Happy to hear they do now!
FBig Bob II / F.
I believe that FKK Palace has always sold alcohol as a service in their business model. You have to ask.
Basketcase
03-11-11, 02:17
One really needs to consider if all the travel is worth it, when just wanting to do FKK.
Pick out the top 3 or 4 clubs maybe. Always good to try something new. But why try do so many?
Not sure I can see the point to it, other than wanting to become a knowledgeable expert on them all, or sheer curiosity?
You won't run out of girls you want to fuck so quickly at each venue. Syzygies,
Yes, there is a fair bit of travel involved in Sybarite2006's plans but it is all possible. I have written up an outline of how it could be done with suggestions for the X and X2 options that leave a gap in Sybarite2006's program.
There is merit as you say of staying in one area and concentrating on the clubs in that one area since to be honest it is a hard push to fuck all the girls on your to do list in one visit unless you are very picky. In saying that I have left many clubs not having fucked a single girl. So you can in some way "run out of girls to fuck".
So there is the positive in seeing many clubs to find out what is there and if you like the line up.
There are some mongers that make it as something to visit many different clubs to check them out. This is admirable. Think Plover23 and Creature2. You do not know until you try.
Wow, basketcase! You've given a lot of helpful information there. Maybe I should ask you about my trip too.
I'm flying to DUS on 22nd April & Leaving FRA May 2nd. I've made a rough itinerary below, I've already booked 4 nights in Duss. 4 nights in Koln & 2 nights in Frankfurt.
Here's what I am thinking.
-o Friday. Monday. 4 nights in Dusseldorf. Courtyard by Marriott.
1) PC Bochum.
2) PT Dorsten.
3) Goldentime.
4) Yin Yang.
-o Tuesday. Friday. 4 nights in Koln. Renaissance hotel.
1) Bernds.
2) Mettmann (I know its closer to Duss but I had already booked hotels)
3) PC Globe
4) Not sure. Maybe Samya or instead going somewhere near Duss on Tuesday & driving to hotel in Koln afterwards. E. G. Living room, PHG or VV? Are the Duss clubs much better than Samya?
-o Saturday. Sunday. 2 nights in Frankfurt. Moevenpick hotel.
1) Oase.
2) Palace.
I'd appreciate any advice from anyone on this. The aim of this trip is to try a different club everyday. I like variety & would like to check out different types of clubs. I don't mind driving.
Also, any other tips for those cities?
Thanks!
Hold The Door
03-11-11, 23:21
I've mainly worked around Spain and been to the clubs there for the last 5 years but always been interested in the FKK's since trying Paradise in Stuttgart a couple of years ago and enjoying the experience.
I had to transfer through Frankfurt while travelling home so chose flights that let me have a 9hr stopover in Frankfurt so I could try Palace without any time pressures.
First off using the train and underground to get to Palace from the airport was incredibly easy. It took about 30 minutes as a train arrived at every platform when I did but even if they didn't I reckon it would only take 45 minutes to get there at the most. I went from the airport to Frankfurt Hbf then took the U4 to Bockenheimer and changed to the U6/7 to Industriehof and walked the last 300m having used Google street view to check the area out so I was familiar with everything. I think I had the right ticket and it only cost 9. 50E to get to and from Palace.
I arrived at about 13:30 and was greeted in English after making it clear I knew no German and told about how the place worked and was then shown the changing rooms. The lockers are quite small but I could fit a laptop bag in and then crumple clothes into the locker, as I didn't need to look freshly iron afterwards so this didn't bother me but it could be a problem if you had plans for after a visit. Once I changed I had a little wander around so I could see what facilities Palace had. At about this time there were 15 girls sitting around.
In the Spanish clubs I frequent I know a number of the girls and have good sessions as I've learnt who is good and who is bad. This is always a problem with going somewhere new as you have no experience. First up was Gina from Prague a curvy blonde and to me a 9. She started out with some speal about have a good first session and how the Romanian girls are awful and I should take her. I know from the Spanish clubs never to go with the first girl as they are usually sharks. Anyway I asked what was on offer and was told that a normal service is 50E and included BBBJ and sex but no DFK. The session was ok and she was engaged and we finished after 20 minutes and she was straight out of the room.
After this I went for a steam in the sauna and then back to the main area. Being a little tired I started to nod off and was then woken by Kimmi from Germany as I was a little tired I declined her offer and she recommend I go couch area near the steam room as it would be quieter and I wouldn't be disturbed as I rested.
After a rest I went back to the main room and was approached by Kimmi and Kiara and they offered a threesome. I tend to find threesomes in clubs are not as good as one on one session as you can't focus as much and it can get be a little start / stop due to hygiene issues. I would have happily gone with either one but didn't want to pick in front of them as it's a bit harsh to the other girl. A couple of minutes later Kiara returns alone and we went to the room. In the room she was more distant than Gina and while in missionary was keeping her legs slightly closed to limit my thrusting. Again she was very hot but not engaged so I wouldn't repeat.
I went back to resting and was approached by quite a few other girls and must admit that they were all 8-9's and I wasn't approached at all by any of the 5-7's and if I wasn't recovering I'the of gone with any of them.
During this time I got to thinking about the difference between Palace and the Spanish clubs I've been to. In Palace the girls were very business orientated and didn't really make any small talk. Now this could very well be because I was new to the club or could be the normal situation. Most of the conversation opened with 'let me kidnap you to the room baby'. In the Spanish clubs it's more of a pickup bar situation and you have a little chat for 10-15 minutes before deciding to go to the room and as you're fully clothed it's not as obvious if you have a hard-on which puts you in a little more control as the girl can't clearly see what you are thinking.
I was getting to the point where I was thinking about whether or not to have another session before going to the airport or just heading off. I was approached by an Egyptian girl I can't remember her name and not really sure if we even exchanged names. She was so brash just grabbing my cock and saying you're hard so you must fuck me. I found this non bullshitting behaviour a turn on and knew it was going to be a wham bam thank you mam session but as she was so brash I couldn't say no. It was more intense than the other sessions as she kept eye contact with a lusty look so I was made to feel like I had her full attention.
After that I washed up and headed out and was back at the airport 40 minutes later to fly out. All in all I had a good time and would recommend if you have a 7hr stopover in Frankfurt to head to palace. Compared to the Spanish scene I would say the girls are hotter as I expect in Spanish clubs to have 3-4 knock out girls whereas Palace by 19:00 had 15+ girls that I would rate as stunning. I think I suffered a little from being a newbie in the club but I had been expecting that and was a little disappointed that I didn't seem to be able to get a conversation from any of the girls as they were constantly on the prowl.
From my experience I preferred Paradise Stuttgart.
A couple of years back I compared Palace to Oase, and believed that Oase overall had girls with best figures, but Palace had the most very pretty girls. The silicone jobs seem to over 50% these days.
But things have changed. There seem to be more pretty girls at Oase and less at Palace. Last night I didn't think there were many stunning girls, to my taste (preferring slimmer girls) , at the Palace. Perhaps it was partly a case of seeing a lot of the same old faces.
Although one or two newer girls looked hot, I stuck to reliable known girls. Mitsu seems to be back a couple of days per week, so went with her. She moaned very loudly so I am sure the adjacent rooms were getting special audio entertainment. Worked hard for the full hour of GFE. Always recommended. Mitsu is quite well endowed with largish B cups I guess (nearly to C) and doesn't need nor want a Silicone job.
Mitsu has been trying to call her folks in Osaka to check their well-being after the quake, but hasn't been able to get through at all, understandably. She was worried, since 15 years ago, after a quake at nearby Kobe, several thousands of people were killed and that was a lesser quake. Fortunately Osaka is not on the main Tsunami side of Japan.
BadinSweet
03-13-11, 01:41
I have been a long time reader but never post. So I figure I start to contribute. I had two days in Frankfurt. With all the good review in Frankfurt section I started out with RLD near Hbf. All I can say is that it was a big rip off and I should have come to Palace on the first day. Both sessions in RLD cost me 50E each.
With all the warnings about sharks I couldn't decided between Oase or Palace. I ended up with Palace since it was easier to get to. Thanks to all for the information, getting to Palace was a breeze. This is my second FKK experience with the first being Golden Time. The club itself is very nice. I like how they have a smoking lounge. For a non-smoker like me, being in a club for 10+ hrs, this is a must.
I got to Palace around 5:30p on Wednesday. The lady buzzed me in, asked it this was my first time here which I said yes. She told me all the rules, cost, shower, locker, etc. Also, I have not seen it mentioned but at the door of each room there are price / sign telling all the cost. It said for extra time (45 mins?) it cost another 50E and anal +100E. There must be between 15-30 girls when I arrived.
I am not sure what the fuss is all about for the sharks. If you have been to strip clubs in US, specially in Vegas, it's about the same. Many girls approached me but I always politely declined and gave excuses like "I just got here","need to relax / charge up","just had a session","I just ate", etc. Most girls understood and just walk away. I got so used to rejecting girls I don't like. One girl approached me and I already said "No". She was like "I just wanted to say Hi". I told most girls upfront that I just want a standard session.
First session was with Kiara, from Germany. 28, tall blonde, with fake C. Once in a room, she kept on trying to upsell but I told her I just want to started out with a normal one and repeat if I like. The session was OK, nothing special. Tried to kiss but she said no kissing, it's for the GFE. She kept telling me to pound her and not stop. I would repeat base on her look but the session was so-so. Cost 50E.
Second session was with Manuela, from Yugoslavia. 25, tall brunette / dark hair, natural B. Her body was not as nice / slim as Kiara (still looks good) but I love the session with her. I started out giving her a massage to loosen her up. After that she gave me BBBJ, DFK, and a session I would not forget. It was totally night and day comparing to Kiara. As the night go on everytime I see her I wanted to have a session with her again. But my little brain kept saying to try different girls. I gave her 60E at the end and will repeat with her if I ever go back.
At this point dinner was ready so I went to the restaurant. I made sure to sit with the back against the wall so I could see all the girls going in and out. I spotted a few hotties (Mytar and Daniela) and already knew whom I want the next session with.
Third session was with Mytar, from Colombia. 28, shoulder length brunette, natural B. She likes to sit with the girl name Maria (brunette, B cup) She has an ass to die for. She said she has only been to Palace for a week and is leaving this week to go back to Barcelona. I did the samething to her, gave her massage to loosen her up. BBBJ, DFK, and multiple positions. This was also one of the best session I have. Cost 50E.
After 3 sessions in 3 hrs, I think I only have enough for one more and was looking for Daniela. But she was no where to be found. The place was getting busy and must have around 30-50 girls by 9pm. I waited for a while and had my forth session with Nina from Czech. 25, long blonde, fake C, with a little big build. She asked if I have done Anal and want one. I wasn't in the mood to pay another 100E so I just stick to a normal session. Somehow she has a smell (probably someone has done anal to her?). The session was OK, not too bad. Funny thing was thgat at the end it took me a while to finish. She asked if she was my 4th or 5th session, and then said 4th? I was like how the heck did you know. I guess they do pay attention when you walk out with someone from the room. Cost 50E.
After the 4th session, I was totally drained. I must have waited like 1. 5 hrs before I spotted Daniela from Maldova. 28, blonde, A cup. I followed her down to the bar and ask for a normal session. She said that she has been with a "special" customer for 3 hrs. They talked, massage but not enough sex which she doesn't like "because that's how you make money". The session was good but I was so drained that I couldn't finish with her. She make me feel better ans said you are human. 5 girls in 6-7 hrs, its hard. I would have to repeat with her again. Cost 50E.
It's just after midnight and I was contemplating on leaving. But I kept seeing Manuela and Mytar walking by and really want to go with them again before I leave. They were probably one of the best sessions I had. I knew I would have to wait at least 2-3 hrs to charge up before I even have energy for another session. I has a few coffee and spot this girl, Jenny. So I kne my last session would be either with her, Mytar, or Manuela. At about one Mytar left so I decided to go with Jenny instead.
Sixth sestion, Jenny, she claimed she's from Germany. 23, tanned skin, long dark hair, B. She looks Asian or have some Asian in her but I didn't care. The session was OK, no kissing. She moaned really loud. She tried really hard to keep me hard and I was surprised I was able to finish with her.
All in all, Palace was great. If you are used to strip club scenes in US, you have nothing to worry about sharks. It was not busy, which is how I like, so you don't have to wait for rooms and fight for a girl. I had 6 sessions in 9. 5 hrs. Including RLD, I was with 8 girls in 32 hrs span. I was totally drained but looking forward to come back to Frankfurt and Palace again.
Third session was with Mytar, from Colombia. 28, shoulder length brunette, natural B. She likes to sit with the girl name Maria (brunette, B cup) She has an ass to die for. She said she has only been to Palace for a week and is leaving this week to go back to Barcelona. I did the samething to her, gave her massage to loosen her up. BBBJ, DFK, and multiple positions. This was also one of the best session I have. Cost 50E.Don't you mean martha? A supermodel look. The description match her I believe, colombian. 28 and lives in Barcelona.
BadinSweet
03-14-11, 05:29
OK, maybe its Martha. She has a very pretty face. Once I saw her in the restaurant I knew I would need a session with her. When she finished eating. I hurried and got out of the restaurant too. I sat by the bar outside of their private area waiting for her to come back out. Gosh, I need to go back to Frankfurt ASAP.
I have just returned after two days at Palace (Sunday and Monday) where I met 9 girls.
That's my ranking:
1) Elvira, small blonde 25 years from Serbia.
2) Saskia from Germany.
3) Aleksandra Polish from Krakow. Brunette, tall with big tits.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Hi folks.
I'll be travelling to frankfurt soon abd would like to ask few questions about the palace (after being in club globe in Zurich lately).
A. What starts a session in the palace?
Be. How long is a regular session? Does 30 minutes means 30 minutes, or does the session end upon your first come?
See. Does you pay 50 Euro separatelly for CIM and 1 hour and Anal (meaning extra of 150 Euro for these 3) or does 50 extra Euro will afford all?
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