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Amriptna111
05-02-12, 14:32
Hi hessen,
Basically for 50 euro can you get DATY, kising, BBBJ and mpos for 30 minutes with palace girl (young and hot ones). I have spoke to other mongers there during visit at both times but none said that it is possible. All girl wants 100 euro for that.
Theonly exception if you choose a chunky girl or a MILF (which I got an offer) 100 euro for DATY, kissing, BBBJ and mpos for 1 hour.
I don't nkow about other people but do you think palace is beginning to be a rip off? Other clubs supplies girls which are just as good but more value for money (buti have only been to oase) I yeah the girls are just as hot and you can get really young guys like 18 I think. Only think is it is kinda seedy. Poor food! And I hate the room; p. But looks on girls I would say depending on your luck. Good looking ones come after 4 pm in my opinion but there is no crowd heheh.
Dude, that train has come and gone. The fact so many girls try to get more than 50 for half an hour is the main reason many mongers don't go to Palace anymore. There are girls who will give you full service for the normal rate. And 50 is still the normal rate in Palace. But I get sick and tired of negotiating and breaking things of with girls. That's why I go to Oase and World instead.
Nille Copenhagen
05-02-12, 15:55
Out of curiouity,
Normally sex with fkk girls how long does it take before you guys cum? Sometimes I have sex with the girl and she pulls out and try to finish me by beating me off using her hand (as if she is tired of it)? If this happens what do you guys do? Do you ask her to keep on spreading her legs or just let her beat you off using her hands (bad encounter in my first report)?
In palace = I have had two girls just pull out and started beating me off but I did past fucking her over 15 minutes non stop. But I wasnt done so normally what would you guys do if you still want to fuck her. Do you tell her go back and lie down or you jut let her beat you off?
What can I say I enjoyed her too much! My money my decision boy.No wonder if you fuck the girls hard, they will pull out and beat your dick by hand in return, haha! Your attitude your dick, my boy!
I've no problem with fucking girls until the time is up and I pay 50€ for 30min GFE, DFK and DATY. With a hot young lady.
Hessen Bub
05-02-12, 16:12
Basically for 50 euro can you get DATY, kising, BBBJ and mpos for 30 minutes with palace girl (young and hot ones). I have spoke to other mongers there during visit at both times but none said that it is possible. All girl wants 100 euro for that.
Theonly exception if you choose a chunky girl or a MILF (which I got an offer) 100 euro for DATY, kissing, BBBJ and mpos for 1 hour.
I don't nkow about other people but do you think palace is beginning to be a rip off? Other clubs supplies girls which are just as good but more value for money (buti have only been to oase) I yeah the girls are just as hot and you can get really young guys like 18 I think. Only think is it is kinda seedy. Poor food! And I hate the room; p. But looks on girls I would say depending on your luck. Good looking ones come after 4 pm in my opinion but there is no crowd heheh.My 2 cents: Palace has the tendency to be a rip-off place. Some girls (not the majority) define their own pricing. That started a few years ago, management tolerated it. That's why quite a few people do not visit Palace anymore, I reduced visits to maybe a handfull per year. And I was a regular guest there.
But. Management has changed. There are some clear signs into the right direction, not tolerating rip-off anymore. I hope this does continue, there's reports on German boards saying that management is glad to hear about girls giving poor service or ripping guest off, and that they are letting those girls go. They also opened a counter where the girls have to get the keys to the rooms before the session starts and the time is being taken. Might help to avoid discussions.
And there are still quite a few girls at Palace giving great service for correct prices, not only the MILFs you were talking about.
I go to the clubs mainly for the girls, not for the facilities or the food. So I prefer Oase, World, Sharks and Mainhattan (in Hessen) over Palace. That might change again, if things change at Palace.
HB
First MrBiggz: I agree completely with you, and I thank The Cane for his numerous posts from Rio last summer.
Hessen Bub: I've also recognised that the management has been much more focused on customer satisfaction during my last visits. Not only because each session is noted down by an assistant before going to the room, but also by the fact that the reception manager has asked me about my visit when leaving. Was everything ok? Were you satisfied with your stay etc. But some girls do their best to sell you "basic service" for 50 euros and "full service" for 100 euros. When interviewing girls I've been very clear on what I wanted, and there are some really good, honest girls at Palace. Too bad that there are some rotten tomatoes that manage to destroy the image. Best solution IMO is to do a good interview, tell them what you want and expect from them in advance. Then I always listen to my stomach feeling, which is rarely mistaken.
Just came back from a tour. After visiting Paradise and spending a couple of days at Art, we visited Palace yesterday, in what was supposedly a very slow evening. For sure the evening I had the most fun, in the tour.
Last time I visited the place was about 2 years ago, so I stepped in as a complete newbie, with a friend.
Apart from a couple of girls from Artemis with which I chatted a bit I knew nobody.
Arrived around 5pm, very few customers around but a lot of girls already there. I don't have a clue as what is the normal number of girls present, at different times of the day, but the lineup was very good.
The bar has been moved since last time I visited. The atmosphere is great and the facilities (bar, restaurant, staff, rooms etc.) are the best I ever saw in any (similar) club I visited till now, with maybe the exception of club Andiamo in Villach.
Only think I disliked are the robes. Made up of an extremely warm and fluffy material. Yep a stupid detail.
Girls:
I was immediately attracted by a blonde beauty with black fishnet. Beautiful ass. I can't remember the name but she is Polish, blonde, has tattoo with written Cristian on her belly. A piercing on her belly button If I remember correctly. 1hr session, actually less than that but more than 30 min. Didn't check. Great time. But just couldn't come. The bad and the good. Recommended, will definitely repeat.
Then Janita, Bulgarian. Super cute. Hangs around with an ex artemis girl, Reni, the Palace name is something like Astrid, Astrix.
We had a super hot session, lasted a bit over 30 min (did check this time) was just asked 50 at the end, but gave tip as usual.
Another girl I recommend and will repeat.
Sorry I can't give much physical details.
Last girl was a Turkish petite beauty. Early 30's I think. Black hair, very nice body, also wearing a black fishnet. Lots of bracelets, very sweet.
The name I just can't remember, Genga something. She explained the name meant flower of some kind. Doesn't speak english very well but we had no problems to communicate.
At the beginning of the session she asked me if I wanted a normal 50euro or a longer more "relaxed" session. I choosed the second, as usual.
Towards the end I decided I would have also Cim but even if she tried real hard I just couldn't make it to finish, totally exhausted after a 4 day trip.
Again I recommend, again will repeat.
With all girls I had DATY, kissing and all the "basic kit" of a good session. With the first two I also appreciated chatting, particularly with the first girl, she is particularly intriguing to me and this doesn't always facilitate me in the sessions.
Through out the day I chatted with a few other girls. I was amazed to hear from all of them the same satisfaction about working at Palace. Maybe they had group lobotomy but all of them told me they where happy with the management and felt like in a big family. Honestly, you can feel this. The atmosphere is relaxed. Some girl come up to you to propose themselves but this was never done aggressively (as I'm seeing at Artemis lately, with others).
Another thing I really appreciate about the place is that there's no smoking allowed outside the smoking areas.
So, bottom line, although I feel very comfortable at Artemis, I must say Palace is now a step ahead. This obviously based on my tastes and on a single visit.
For sure I'll be visiting again in near future, need wingman.
Kimino
Amriptna111
05-02-12, 21:53
No wonder if you fuck the girls hard, they will pull out and beat your dick by hand in return, haha! Your attitude your dick, my boy!Yeah no use to be a hooker if you can't take a pounding. Well I have found those who can or cannot. For those who cannot I won't repeat.
I've no problem with fucking girls until the time is up and I pay 50€ for 30min GFE, DFK and DATY. With a hot young lady.I doubt you pay for 50 euro if you go now for hot girls (at least now). But if you do find a hot one why don't you write a good report on it and share some info. As I mention you have yet made post regarding girls that you see with names and their description. Owh that right you keep your hooker girlfriends to yourself. Stop criticizing others who writes!
Yes with you it is always slow beautifull girlfriend experience. GFE. GFE. Whatever rocks your boat. Honey. Dude find a real girl friend man. As for me I want to fuck rock hard with no love and hookers do they that for money. Simple supply and demand!
I wonder why a good gentlemen like you needs a hooker to bonk. Your filled with so much love and care I am sure there are lots of women who would like to be your gf and provide you with real GFE.
As for me I am a fucker who likes to fuck hard after working hard for mr green.
As for me I am a fucker who likes to fuck hard after working hard for mr green.There's much one could say about you, but either way. Your posts are really entertaining. I'll give you that!
Amriptna111
05-02-12, 22:28
There's much one could say about you, but either way. Your posts are really entertaining. I'll give you that!Of course it is an entertaining. And I don't care what people think as for me I give out info and share and clarify things with other members. You want to read then read if you don't then stop being a negative nancy casanova wannabe.
Ok the best experience on this trip so far is :-
A monger who likes to pound has been working for 2 weeks non stop preparing things for a meeting in frankfurt. He was tired but relishes the thought of visiting Mr. Casanova girlfriend in Palace. All he can think is making the Mr Casanova lovers into his bitches. So he kept on working even till the day and even till 4 hours of his flight he just keep on working so that he can enjoy hard later on. So he didn't sleep the night before his flight to frankfurt and still work even on the plane. He is damn tired I tell you.
Plane lands in frankfurt. Mr punder goes to immigration. So the conversation goes like this.
Immigration Officer : Good afternoon
Mr pounder : Good afternoon to you too.
(then gave immigration officer my passport so he can continue to do his work)
Immigration Officer : reason to come to germany.
Mr Pounder :FKK (I actually gave a small smile saying it). WTF. I can't believe I said that. Now this is the kind of situation where a man actually has the ability to think with his dick LOL.
Immigration Officer: short blank stare.
Mr Pounder : Freakin nervous at this moment so I just laught it off and just say just 'kiddin' I am here for meeting up with buss client and I went shit about last messe and stuff.
Immigration Officer: gave me a short smile. Then said enjoy your stay here and good luck with your bussines. LOL LOL.
So dudes I suggest to get enough sleep before your flight or at least catch some sleep on the place to avoid such things from happening.
Vito Corleone
05-02-12, 22:37
But. Management has changed. There are some clear signs into the right direction, not tolerating rip-off anymore. I hope this does continue, there's reports on German boards saying that management is glad to hear about girls giving poor service or ripping guest off, and that they are letting those girls go. They also opened a counter where the girls have to get the keys to the rooms before the session starts and the time is being taken. Might help to avoid discussions.
HBManagement only cares now because the place is always dead. Fri, Sat never really crowded. I was there during a Messe last year & the place was a little more crowded than the norm. Back in the day when the place was packed, management did not give a rats ass. Long lines for rooms & some women trying to charge 50 for waiting time. The past couple years there were zero lines for rooms. Damage has been done & no matter if their food is better, cleaner rooms or pretending like they give a crap when you leave. It has been a while since I've been as there are much better options in the Hessen area.
I do agree there are clear signs into the right direction, but I think it's too late.
Mr pounder goes to immigration. So the conversation goes like this.
Immigration Officer : Good afternoon
Mr pounder : Good afternoon to you too.
(then gave immigration officer my passport so he can continue to do his work)
Immigration Officer : reason to come to germany.
Mr Pounder :FKK (I actually gave a small smile saying it). WTF. I can't believe I said that. Now this is the kind of situation where a man actually has the ability to think with his dick LOL.
Immigration Officer: short blank stare.
Mr Pounder : Freakin nervous at this moment so I just laught it off and just say just 'kiddin' I am here for meeting up with buss client and I went shit about last messe and stuff.
Immigration Officer: gave me a short smile. Then said enjoy your stay here and good luck with your bussines. LOL LOL.
So dudes I suggest to get enough sleep before your flight or at least catch some sleep on the place to avoid such things from happening.German immigration has never asked me what I was doing in the Fatherland. I just flash that blue USA passport and that's it. One time a guy asked how long I was staying, but that was it.
Nille Copenhagen
05-03-12, 10:25
Yeah no use to be a hooker if you can't take a pounding. Well I have found those who can or cannot. For those who cannot I won't repeat.
I doubt you pay for 50 euro if you go now for hot girls (at least now). But if you do find a hot one why don't you write a good report on it and share some info. As I mention you have yet made post regarding girls that you see with names and their description. Owh that right you keep your hooker girlfriends to yourself. Stop criticizing others who writes!
Yes with you it is always slow beautifull girlfriend experience. GFE. GFE. Whatever rocks your boat. Honey. Dude find a real girl friend man. As for me I want to fuck rock hard with no love and hookers do they that for money. Simple supply and demand!
I wonder why a good gentlemen like you needs a hooker to bonk. Your filled with so much love and care I am sure there are lots of women who would like to be your gf and provide you with real GFE.
As for me I am a fucker who likes to fuck hard after working hard for mr green.Amriptna111! It seem like you have a very hard job since you need to punish the girls, and put all your aggression on the SPs to be able to feel like a man, LOL, I think we got the picture what kind of man you are, you reveal yourself well in your reports.
It seems like you had never read my Palace reports. With names, with 50€ is possible to have great service, other ISG members had witness this.
Mongering is my hobby. Not a need.
I do agree there are clear signs into the right direction, but I think it's too late.Oh, I am not so sure. It will be interesting to see.
I notice a trend towards more luxurious places in the big cities, with smaller clubs possibly struggling to hang on. In Hessen, das 5. Element has come (admittedly with location problems) , Sharks has established itself, Oase is investing heavily high-end. Palace could compete here easily. The successes will be those that manage to keep the number of girls and service levels high. Palace has an issue here, as we all know. Sharks must take care on this count. Oase has, I would suggest, taken note of this trend. Because they have always managed the service well, and have managed to keep attracting stacks of girls, they have the best chance of succeeding long-term. I always joke to myself that Oase has modelled itself the Ryanair of FKK-land. People moan regularly about this or that, but they do get the bums on the mats, and are clearly earning well. Pity they do not offer loyalty stock.
But Palace could turn things round really quickly if they put their minds to it. Seems the beast is waking at last. I am surprised it has taken so long. Their location alone is a mega advantage.
Maybe you will turn out to be correct, Vito, but I think the game is beginning to change. Keep your stock of fifties fresh. Golden times ahead?
Forgot to ask when I posted my report.
When visited Palace we had to leave quite early, around midnight. At that time there were few customers around and it appeared that many of the girls vanished.
I was wondering what the situation might be at around 4 am when the place closes down, being that the girls don't have a club rule to follow regarding exit time.
Anyone has experience in this? Staying at the club 'till real late in a night with few customers might lead to be there with no girls around?
Kimino
My 2 cents: Palace has the tendency to be a rip-off place. Some girls (not the majority) define their own pricing. That started a few years ago, management tolerated it. That's why quite a few people do not visit Palace anymore, I reduced visits to maybe a handfull per year. And I was a regular guest there.
But. Management has changed. There are some clear signs into the right direction, not tolerating rip-off anymore. I hope this does continue, there's reports on German boards saying that management is glad to hear about girls giving poor service or ripping guest off, and that they are letting those girls go. They also opened a counter where the girls have to get the keys to the rooms before the session starts and the time is being taken. Might help to avoid discussions.
And there are still quite a few girls at Palace giving great service for correct prices, not only the MILFs you were talking about.
I go to the clubs mainly for the girls, not for the facilities or the food. So I prefer Oase, World, Sharks and Mainhattan (in Hessen) over Palace. That might change again, if things change at Palace.
HBHB has summed it up perfectly I think.
While there are guys that are influenced by the room cleanliness and food quality, its just too low a percentage, and it doesn't matter how pretty and sexy the girl looks, its rare that guys will repeat with girls big on the upsell, as we just don't need the mental hassle. Once all my favourites with no upsell disappeared from Palace, there is little reason to return there often. So now Oase wins out purely due to greater ease of meeting new girls with great service and no upsell, and fewer girls that will persue me when I am not interested.
Girls will still provide 50 Euro sessions at Oase, and its commonplace.
OK. Two evenings ago I was at Oase (report in that thread) and now at Palace. I generally agree with the tone on the board that Palace is more upsell-why than Oase and I felt like I paid extra for service that was included at Oase. Here's how it went:
After I changed I headed into the back bar. I got to tell you, the place has a really nice vibe. It's kind of like a high end strip club in the US, but where all the girls put out. I liked the theme, I liked that the furniture wasn't all worn and tired. Good vibe going on.
Girls outnumbered guys by quite a bit When first got in (around 9). Sat at bar, ordered beer, drank same. Fly bys from several girls. For what it's worth, I didn't find their propositioning any more or less "sharky" than Oase. I will say, however that the girls at Oase got WAY more friendly outside the room. You got grabbed and could grab more, and DFK and even a little something extra would happen at Oase. Not so much for me at Palace.
Alexandra (from Egypt, allegedly) was among the first to come to me. She offered to show me around the club. She tried to sit me down way in the back (by the wet sauna) to start the attack, but I asked to go see the kino and foiled her plan. I never though her that great, so passed on her. She was not happy, but, hey, it's my money.
Back to the bar. Couldn't find anyone who was really doing it for me (which is really incredible for me to say. Objectively, there are 60 hotties there that I would be dying for if I couldn't have them. But the fact I COULD do anyone. Changes the whole mindset). Several very friendly girls came up, said hello, etc, but I couldn't really make it work. Grabbed another drink and sat by the stripper pole. That's where Eliza (Ukraine) came over. Dark hair, B cup-ish, not an ounce of fat, not a hair on her body. Though she wasn't terribly warm (warning!) I was feeling ready to go and decided to take the plunge. I asked her if she kissed. She said "I can do anything". Well, she CAN for a price, but kissing was not part of the package I ended up with (would have been 1 hour and 50E more. Sound familiar?)
Back to the room where we discussed prices and services. Told her I wanted BJ and sex and got a CBJ, MPOS and HJ to finish. Couldn't finish the deed in her because (a) the CBJ never really got me rockin' to begin with and (be) she put about 5 qts of lube in her vaj. There was no traction!
Anyway, paid my money, went my way. Many girls came and said hello, and, I have to tell you, I thought they were very friendly-if I had not been recharging there were a few I would have considered. I didn't feel pressured in a shark-why way, but there were a LOT of girls working per guy, so it was kind of continuous.
Some SMOKING hot penthouse model quality blonde gave a dance on the stripper pole that was to die for. Perfect. Perfect body & face. Guys were circling her like sharks and she was swept up shortly after the dance never to be seen again. That one's going to haunt me.
After that I popped in the sauna to clear my head, showered again and sat down outside the kino. I had been eyeing a blond from a distance all night and she and her friend came by the kino entrance and tried to sell me a twosome. Took me a few minutes but the (less hot) friend got the message that I wanted a single with the hot one.
Her name was Anna, from Hungary. I am digging these tight little bodies. B cup, legs until tomorrow, not one sign of loose flesh to be seen. Go to room. Tell her what I want, she offers it all for 100E. 40 minutes. Whatever. Massage, BBBJ / 69, CG (almost killed me, in a good way) , doggie-I asked for DFK and got like, maybe 4 of them. This one only used natural lube and was as tight on the inside as she was on the outside. Let me just say it didn't take all 40 minutes, try as I might. I would recommend.
Look, I could complain about the price / value, but net the value (2 girls, one decent, one really nice and surrounded by hot naked chicks for several hours, food and drinks) and having it all be legal. I'm hard pressed to whine. Yeah, it was cheaper at Oase, but this is not bad. Different, but not bad. I've spent way more for bad lap dances. Puts it in perspective, why'know?
That said, with one more night in FRA, I'm doing Oase. For anyone like me who is a newbie, that statement should tell you at least where I stand based on experiences! Oase is tougher to get to but the experience and value are totally worth it.
Thanks to the board for all the help. Hope the TR is useful.
Brother mongers:
I will be in Frankfurt May 11-15 and plan to visit a different FKK every day, specifically, Friday-Palace, Saturday-Mainhattan, Sunday-World, Monday-Sharks, Tuesday-Oase, all this assuming that I have the stamina to keep up this schedule. I promise a full report on each place I visit. To put this in perspective, I am a veteran monger in the twilight of my career, and I want to experience the legendary Frankfurt scene while I still can. I have RTFF, but I still have a few questions:
1) Is the dining buffet open round the clock or only at certain hours? If possible, I would like to save money by having all my meals except breakfast at the FKKs. I am just curious as to whether this is doable at Palace.
2) I have an aversion to breast implants and would never knowingly choose a girl who has them. (Sorry, it's just one of my quirks, a major turnoff.) So here's my question: would it be within the realm of acceptable FKK behavior to fondle a girl's breasts during the selection process to see if they are real if I'm not sure, or would touching her bind me to a session with her?
3) What do you think of my above schedule? I decided to focus on FKKs because I have no interest in gangbangs or public sex, and most of the Partytreff websites I visited are in German only (I don't speak or read German). Do you think it might be better, for variety's sake, to skip the FKKs on one of the days and try an alternative? If so, which club would you recommend? Also, are there any "alles ohne" clubs in the Frankfurt area?
Thanks in advance for your answers. I will be posting this in other FKK threads for maximum exposure, sometimes tailoring questions to that specific FKK, so just ignore duplicate posts.
Lorenzo
Tell her what I want, she offers it all for 100E. 40 minutes.Thanks for the report. But what's up with the 40 minutes? I ask this because this is the second post recently involving this 'offer'. Unless there's recently been a revolution in price structure, 100 euros grants you 60 minutes, unless you've gone for an extra in the first half hour.
Brother mongers:
I will be in Frankfurt May 11-15 and plan to visit a different FKK every day, specifically, Friday-Palace, Saturday-Mainhattan, Sunday-World, Monday-Sharks, Tuesday-Oase, all this assuming that I have the stamina to keep up this schedule. I promise a full report on each place I visit. To put this in perspective, I am a veteran monger in the twilight of my career, and I want to experience the legendary Frankfurt scene while I still can. I have RTFF, but I still have a few questions:
1) Is the dining buffet open round the clock or only at certain hours? If possible, I would like to save money by having all my meals except breakfast at the FKKs. I am just curious as to whether this is doable at Palace.
2) I have an aversion to breast implants and would never knowingly choose a girl who has them. (Sorry, it's just one of my quirks, a major turnoff.) So here's my question: would it be within the realm of acceptable FKK behavior to fondle a girl's breasts during the selection process to see if they are real if I'm not sure, or would touching her bind me to a session with her?
3) What do you think of my above schedule? I decided to focus on FKKs because I have no interest in gangbangs or public sex, and most of the Partytreff websites I visited are in German only (I don't speak or read German). Do you think it might be better, for variety's sake, to skip the FKKs on one of the days and try an alternative? If so, which club would you recommend? Also, are there any "alles ohne" clubs in the Frankfurt area?
Thanks in advance for your answers. I will be posting this in other FKK threads for maximum exposure, sometimes tailoring questions to that specific FKK, so just ignore duplicate posts.
LorenzoCompressed answers to your questions.
1.) Yes, totally possible at Palace. Restaurant closed around 4 to 7:30, or something like that, before dinner, though there may be some buffet food available. Otherwise easy to eat all 3 meals at the club.
2.) In my experience it's generally obvious when the girl has fakes. You're free to check for yourself, though some girls will resist this, so if you're bold enough, don't ask, just grab. Personally, I don't play unless I intend to pay, but you're totally within your rights here.
Also, be warned: there are many silicon girls at Palace. I haven't been for over a month, but some nights half the girls have fake tits.
3.) Consider taking a day off in the middle of the trip, or just pace yourself, i.e. a day with 1 or 2 sessions, or as some guys have done, not cum in some sessions.
Thanks for the report. But what's up with the 40 minutes? I ask this because this is the second post recently involving this 'offer'. Unless there's recently been a revolution in price structure, 100 euros grants you 60 minutes, unless you've gone for an extra in the first half hour.OK, my fault-this "negotiation" happened after a massage had already taken place. Hence total time in the room was closer to an hour with the add on of the 40 min s of action. Proper negotiating technique would have handled this up front before the massage and landed at 1 hour for all services plus massage, I would bet.
That said, my general point stands-it seems like straight $50 gets a lot less at Palace than at Oase.
OK. Two evenings ago I was at Oase (report in that thread) and now at Palace. I generally agree with the tone on the board that Palace is more upsell-why than Oase and I felt like I paid extra for service that was included at Oase. Here's how it went:
After I changed I headed into the back bar. I got to tell you, the place has a really nice vibe. It's kind of like a high end strip club in the US, but where all the girls put out. I liked the theme, I liked that the furniture wasn't all worn and tired. Good vibe going on.
Girls outnumbered guys by quite a bit When first got in (around 9). Sat at bar, ordered beer, drank same. Fly bys from several girls. For what it's worth, I didn't find their propositioning any more or less "sharky" than Oase. I will say, however that the girls at Oase got WAY more friendly outside the room. You got grabbed and could grab more, and DFK and even a little something extra would happen at Oase. Not so much for me at Palace.
Alexandra (from Egypt, allegedly) was among the first to come to me. She offered to show me around the club. She tried to sit me down way in the back (by the wet sauna) to start the attack, but I asked to go see the kino and foiled her plan. I never though her that great, so passed on her. She was not happy, but, hey, it's my money.
Back to the bar. Couldn't find anyone who was really doing it for me (which is really incredible for me to say. Objectively, there are 60 hotties there that I would be dying for if I couldn't have them. But the fact I COULD do anyone. Changes the whole mindset). Several very friendly girls came up, said hello, etc, but I couldn't really make it work. Grabbed another drink and sat by the stripper pole. That's where Eliza (Ukraine) came over. Dark hair, B cup-ish, not an ounce of fat, not a hair on her body. Though she wasn't terribly warm (warning!) I was feeling ready to go and decided to take the plunge. I asked her if she kissed. She said "I can do anything". Well, she CAN for a price, but kissing was not part of the package I ended up with (would have been 1 hour and 50E more. Sound familiar?)
Back to the room where we discussed prices and services. Told her I wanted BJ and sex and got a CBJ, MPOS and HJ to finish. Couldn't finish the deed in her because (a) the CBJ never really got me rockin' to begin with and (be) she put about 5 qts of lube in her vaj. There was no traction!
Anyway, paid my money, went my way. Many girls came and said hello, and, I have to tell you, I thought they were very friendly-if I had not been recharging there were a few I would have considered. I didn't feel pressured in a shark-why way, but there were a LOT of girls working per guy, so it was kind of continuous.
Some SMOKING hot penthouse model quality blonde gave a dance on the stripper pole that was to die for. Perfect. Perfect body & face. Guys were circling her like sharks and she was swept up shortly after the dance never to be seen again. That one's going to haunt me.
After that I popped in the sauna to clear my head, showered again and sat down outside the kino. I had been eyeing a blond from a distance all night and she and her friend came by the kino entrance and tried to sell me a twosome. Took me a few minutes but the (less hot) friend got the message that I wanted a single with the hot one.
Her name was Anna, from Hungary. I am digging these tight little bodies. B cup, legs until tomorrow, not one sign of loose flesh to be seen. Go to room. Tell her what I want, she offers it all for 100E. 40 minutes. Whatever. Massage, BBBJ / 69, CG (almost killed me, in a good way) , doggie-I asked for DFK and got like, maybe 4 of them. This one only used natural lube and was as tight on the inside as she was on the outside. Let me just say it didn't take all 40 minutes, try as I might. I would recommend.
Look, I could complain about the price / value, but net the value (2 girls, one decent, one really nice and surrounded by hot naked chicks for several hours, food and drinks) and having it all be legal. I'm hard pressed to whine. Yeah, it was cheaper at Oase, but this is not bad. Different, but not bad. I've spent way more for bad lap dances. Puts it in perspective, why'know?
That said, with one more night in FRA, I'm doing Oase. For anyone like me who is a newbie, that statement should tell you at least where I stand based on experiences! Oase is tougher to get to but the experience and value are totally worth it.
Thanks to the board for all the help. Hope the TR is useful.Spin, I was there last night and I witnessed the smoking hot blonde on the pole. She told me her name is Denise and claims to be from Moldova. I also encountered Anna and her not-so-hot companion. If she was running with the same girl I saw her with, it was an exceptionally NOT-hot woman wearing red who said she was from Venezuela. I would have gone for Anna but I was absolutely exhausted by that point.
Gitta (?). Hungary.
My first girl there was Gitta from Hungary. I have known her for a long time because she used to be at Oase. I am not entirely sure that she is using the same name (Gitta) here that she used in Oase, though. I never asked her what she calls herself here. Anyway, she has some limits (no anal) but is exceptionally great in every other category. Perfect eye-candy; perfect cleanliness; perfect bedside manner. I always love seeing her. Multiple positions; CIM. Very nice. 100 EU.
Anisa and Malena (?). Each from Germany (they said the name of the city, but I don't know if it is kosher to reveal that sort of info on the board)
Then I did something I rarely do. A 2 girl session. I normally shy away from them because I have observed that often the women involved will be less inclined to "do everything" because they don't want to appear to be "too loose" to the other woman. I learned that when doing 2 girl sessions in strip clubs back in the states. At least that's my theory. Anyway, I was accosted by two very beautiful women who identified themselves as Anisa (German; brunette; a few tattoos with phrases running down her arms and perhaps her torso) and. Not sure of this name. Malena (?) (German; smoking hot; blonde; smoking hot; no tattoos; smoking hot; perfect face and smile; did I mention that she is smoking hot?) Anyway, not my best negotiating job. 1 hour. 500 EU (yes, I know. I'm a fu<king idiot.) However, these two were great ladies. Great oral. Neither would even allow me to get close to the sphincter but everything else seemed fair game. Lots of playing with me; lots of playing with each other; double BJ; doggie with each while she licked the other. 2 pops. I would see each again, but individually (based on my theory that each might be more adventurous if not with another girl).
Angelina (or maybe it was Alexandra). Egypt (Allegedly)
Was rather tired because I hadn't had much recovery time after the two German lovelies. I was trying to check my email and this girl came up to me. I loved her body, although the huge rose tattoo was unattractive. Also, she was not ugly, but not pretty either (at least to me). But when she started giving me a BJ while I was sitting at the computer (the one back by the jacuzzi) , I decided that maybe she might be a good idea. Another selling point was that she said she wanted me to fuck her ass. Besides, I have always wanted to be with an Egyptian ever since I met a very lovely Egyptian woman on a flight a few years ago. This girl is very energetic. If one were to assess BJ's on spectrum ranging from "exceptionally light touch" to "exceptionally hard sucking", this girl's BJ would be closer to the "exceptionally hard sucking". But, since I had already popped 3 times, this was exactly what I needed. I was disappointed with the anal, though, because she complained a bit. She dealt with it, though, but her complaints were distracting. Anyway, I told her I wanted to finish in her mouth. She liked that idea, probably because she seemed a bit uncomfortable with the anal. And because she would get a bigger pay-out. She had to work for this pop, though. And to her credit, she was more than willing to put forth the effort. Pretty good climax for me. Total 200 EU. Probably wouldn't repeat with her, though, because there was something about her attitude that I didn't dig much.
That was it for me. I was just going to say good bye to Gitta and then go home. I was exhausted. But then I spotted Jenny.
Jenny. Germany (she told me the city, but it might not be cool to publish the city's name).
This woman was perfect. She told me that one parent is German and the other was originally from Spain. My experience tells me that this is almost always a magic combination, and it certainly was with her. She actually came to me and I was certain. Absolutely positive. That I would not be able to perform simply because I was so tired and spent. However, I was rather mesmerized by this woman's beauty, so I went with her. Good decision, as it turns out. She was AMAZING to me. Great BJ technique. When I was looking at her as she performed, I was amazed at the beauty. Not just her face; her whole body. Hair, tan, smoothness of skin, everything. Hell, I'm getting hard again just thinking about her. The visual of seeing myself in the mirror while we were doing doggie is a good memory. Then we transitioned to anal. I started slowly and built up to pounding her pretty hard. Amazing orgasm on this one too. Afterward she said in reference to the anal sex something like "I like the hard action". Great attitude with Jenny. I would definitely see her again. And probably will at my first opportunity. Total 150 EU. Definitely the best session of the night. Even though I always like seeing Gitta.
Then I left. I was done for the night.
Lorenzo:
FWIW, I noted someone else has pointed out that you should consider the breakfasts at World & Oase. I would also recommend Palace. I recently quoted their breakfast menu on the Lounge & Chat thread. It's on their website.
Another aspect to be aware of: at Palace, (and maybe at some of the others, I don't know) , you can leave and return later that same day, just get a chit from the hausfrau. So go for breakfast, when the lineup may be a little light, stay a while, leave to refresh & return when the lineup is stronger etc.
I too am seasoned & senior: I come for 6-8 days & I need a day off or will hit the wall around day 4-5.
Enjoy yourself, it's an experience, not a marathon! The only person you have to impress is yourself!
I will be returning at the beginning of June. Don't wear the Ladies out!
Myr.
Banana Boi
05-04-12, 15:35
Another aspect to be aware of: at Palace, (and maybe at some of the others, I don't know) , you can leave and return later that same day, just get a chit from the hausfrau. So go for breakfast, when the lineup may be a little light, stay a while, leave to refresh & returnThanks for this info, myr. Maybe I'll do palace in the afternoon, head up to oase for a bit, Then back to palace.
Anyone know of other fkk's with in and out privileges?
Angus Magee
05-04-12, 17:11
Anyone know of other fkk's with in and out privileges?As long as you pay the girls I think most large FKK have the old in / out privileges.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUNOJtfYKcQ
AM2
OK, my fault-this "negotiation" happened after a massage had already taken place. Hence total time in the room was closer to an hour with the add on of the 40 min s of action. Proper negotiating technique would have handled this up front before the massage and landed at 1 hour for all services plus massage, I would bet.
That said, my general point stands-it seems like straight $50 gets a lot less at Palace than at Oase.Ah, I see, then that makes more sense. I was afraid the new Palace upsell to new visitors was 40 minutes for 100 euros, which would work in a club where session durations are recorded and guests don't realize they can just stay the full hour.
I would definitely agree that 50 goes further in Oase than in Palace, however one wants to qualify it.
Alexandra! That's the one! The one who claims to be from Egypt. Anybody know if it's true? Anyway, I don't care for her look or her personality. She came on to me really strong during my very first visit to Palace. She said she would treat me like a Pharaoh. I'm always on guard with the ones making such big promises! Where there's smoke, there's usually only more smoke. I asked her if she would take me to Thebes. Her answer? What? Where's that? LOL! If she is indeed a legit Egyptian, well then I'm sure Thebes is called something different, or is at least pronounced differently, in Arabic.
Hessen Bub
05-05-12, 10:01
All Hessen clubs will give you a return ticket if you want to leave for a gew hours. Except for Sharks on the weekend.
HB
Ah, I see, then that makes more sense. I was afraid the new Palace upsell to new visitors was 40 minutes for 100 euros, which would work in a club where session durations are recorded and guests don't realize they can just stay the full hour.
I would definitely agree that 50 goes further in Oase than in Palace, however one wants to qualify it.
I thought the exact same thing when I read those reports. Still not convinced this is not the case, if you're staying an hour most girls in other clubs don't mind investing in a bit of massage time. Especially 'the pounder' reports it in a way that makes it look like the girl is looking for 40 minute sessions.
Amriptna111
05-05-12, 11:12
I thought the exact same thing when I read those reports. Still not convinced this is not the case, if you're staying an hour most girls in other clubs don't mind investing in a bit of massage time. Especially 'the pounder' reports it in a way that makes it look like the girl is looking for 40 minute sessions.Hi but mine was 40 minutes with full service with no massage. As I said even the pic behind the dorr showed the same thing although ambiguously. But it did show up till 40 minutes plus 50 euro so she used that buss model. But I guess some girls charge that, some 30 minutes 100 euro for full service and some 100 euro for 60 minutes everything included.
I did say this to the german MILF and she told me diff girls have their diff prices. But as for germans if you want to full service then you have to go 1 hour session for 100 euro.
So I don't know actually but all I know is that the 40 minutes session I got was worth it as in the dfk was all the way non stop. I mean in the last post the guy said he got like only 4 but with my provided it was non stop. So well diff providers diff rate and diff quality I think.
Angelina (or maybe it was Alexandra). Egypt (Allegedly)
Was rather tired because I hadn't had much recovery time after the two German lovelies. I was trying to check my email and this girl came up to me. I loved her body, although the huge rose tattoo was unattractive. Also, she was not ugly, but not pretty either (at least to me).Her namn is Angelina, not Alexandra (except if she's decided to change her namn for newbies). She hunts in particular for new blood, and claims to be from Egypt. She is about as Egyptian as Barack Obama (meaning not!). I once did a threesome with her and another girl, when it was my first visit to Palace. She's not very bad, but not worth any repeat either, and your comment about her looks is spot on. She likes rough sex though, so she's right up your alley Mr Pounder! She's known to be from Romania. She does not bother me anymore since I told her I would never go with her again. I know, it may sound a bit rude, but I think she likes to not waste time on prospects that are not interested.
Hessen Bub
05-05-12, 11:22
As I said even the pic behind the dorr showed the same thing although ambiguously. But it did show up till 40 minutes plus 50 euro so she used that buss model. But I guess some girls charge that, some 30 minutes 100 euro for full service and some 100 euro for 60 minutes everything included.
I did say this to the german MILF and she told me diff girls have their diff prices. But as for germans if you want to full service then you have to go 1 hour session for 100 euro.Full stop please. Official pricing is (as stated below) 50 EUR for 30 min. If you go over the 30 min mark, you have to pay another 50 EUR and the next half hour is included. This is what the pictograms in the rooms try to show, even if they get mistaken.
And no, it's not "different girls have different prices" for the basic service and CIM and AV. That's what hopefully the new management will enforce. If girls try to rip you off, define their own prices. Report them to the front desk.
HB
Hi but mine was 40 minutes with full service with no massage. As I said even the pic behind the dorr showed the same thing although ambiguously. But it did show up till 40 minutes plus 50 euro so she used that buss model. But I guess some girls charge that, some 30 minutes 100 euro for full service and some 100 euro for 60 minutes everything included.
I did say this to the german MILF and she told me diff girls have their diff prices. But as for germans if you want to full service then you have to go 1 hour session for 100 euro.
So I don't know actually but all I know is that the 40 minutes session I got was worth it as in the dfk was all the way non stop. I mean in the last post the guy said he got like only 4 but with my provided it was non stop. So well diff providers diff rate and diff quality I think.To add to what HB has been saying for a while now. Full service (incl DATY, BBBJ, DFK) is 50 for each half an hour. If she tries to tell you it is 100 for 40 minutes, she is ripping you off. If she tells you she only kisses in longer sessions, she is ripping you off. If the amount of pay makes a difference in how much you get to kiss her, she is ripping you off. Nothing against you, but she probably noticed that you didn't have that much club experience and made use of that. Don't fall for it next time.
When a girl says girls have different prices, she is either trying to rip you off or trying to be subtle in indicating the other girls are sharks; depending on her own pricing.
Sometimes I think they gave the name "Sharks" to the wrong club.
Her namn is Angelina, not Alexandra (except if she's decided to change her name for newbies). She hunts in particular for new blood, and claims to be from Egypt. She is about as Egyptian as Barack Obama (meaning not!). She likes rough sex though, so she's right up your alley Mr Pounder! She's known to be from Romania. She does not bother me anymore since I told her I would never go with her again. I know, it may sound a bit rude, but I think she likes to not waste time on prospects that are not interested.No Alexandra! Or Angelina! Same chick. I knew I could smell a rat! And she pounced on me right away on my first visit as well, which confirms her hunt for "new blood". Well, I may have been new to Palace, but I was already a seasoned monger up in the game. That's why I mentioned Thebes just to issue her a test. Tute didn't know jack shit about Thebes hahaha! I'm also not attracted to her in the least bit. Too bad too since she likes it rough. Every now and then I like to give them a good hard fuck like Mr. Pounder does. She's never approached me again since my first visit either. She's been around too and knows who will never be up for her "Egyptian" sales pitch. You would think a girl who doesn't want to be Romanian (or whatever) would pick some other nationality that she could easily pull off.
Hessen Bub
05-05-12, 12:35
Actually 40 min ARE 100€. But 30 min are 50€. And 60 min are also 100€. It's easy, isn't it?
HB
I should have said: if she tells you 100 euros buys you 40 minutes, she is ripping you off!
Madridiverrr
05-06-12, 15:54
For me, I found the solution for PALACE as it's FKK where you have the highest chances to get ripped off, you should ask anything before you go to the room. It may sounds weired for some of you, I had the same feeling, but I don't want to loose my money anymore.
I personally have some luck with the girls in PALACE as I have been cheated only 4 times in a total of more than 35 girls, that's only 12%, but I know a lot of guys who have a rate bigger than 50% .
When I say cheated It's never about the money prices like (100 €/40 Min) , but it's about some extra :
- I don't kiss for 50 €.
- Cunni : Extra. [ If a girls says I don't like this, I respect that, but If she says extra "No Way". ].
- 50€ for the minimum session and 100€ for a complete one.
- Some girls wants to get 100€ so they can offer you a good service but you should add an extra (CIM, CIT, etc.).
But I'm a kind of "Difficult" guy, one time I was hungry only because a girls didn't accept to do FK, so imagine if she says CBJ or something else. .
Overall, I had good experiences in PALACE, the line-up there in my opinion is better than "OASE".
Sorry, I didn't write any reports in this forum (I wrote them in the french forum.) ,
Hope my english was understandable " It's my third language ".
I'll try to write some reports in the future.
I've noted a couple of references on this thread that Palace is under 'new' management.
As I approach my next visit in a couple of weeks, this prompts a question.
It may also serve as an advice to noobies of something that rarely occurs and is little to worry over, but can be unsettling none-the-less.
Two years ago when I was at Palace one evening sitting by the main bar there was suddenly a procession of clothed men & women into the entire club. Quickly, like well trained border collies they had everyone in the club, patrons & staff alike, herded into two groups: males & females. It was a Razzia! To the non-German, non-frequent visitors this seemed a litte horrorific. Fortunately, I had read of these previously on this board. I was able to calm those around me that the Polizei were ostensibly targeting the ladies, to determine their papers were in order, they were legal and paying their taxes (everyone takes his cut). To a lesser extent they were checking the male population: make sure you take your passport with you, otherwise they will accompany you to get it. We were checked on the Polizei data base. Then we could either stay or leave, with a chit from Palace mgmt for a free entrance.
It was also suggested that this Razzia was a message to Palace mgmt.
Since there is apparently a new leadership there, have any messages been passed recently?
For noobies: if you are in one, don't panic, cooperate & have your passport handy.
Myr.
Nille Copenhagen
05-07-12, 18:14
For noobies: if you are in one, don't panic, cooperate & have your passport handy.
Myr.Luckily I have never witness a razzia.
Guys carry your passport even when you are in the rooms fucking.
Because you can just flash your passport when the Polizei knocks on the door and drag you out of the bed.
This would save you money as you are on the clock with a girl.
Amriptna111
05-07-12, 19:04
No Alexandra! Or Angelina! Same chick. I knew I could smell a rat! And she pounced on me right away on my first visit as well, which confirms her hunt for "new blood". Well, I may have been new to Palace, but I was already a seasoned monger up in the game. That's why I mentioned Thebes just to issue her a test. Tute didn't know jack shit about Thebes hahaha! I'm also not attracted to her in the least bit. Too bad too since she likes it rough. Every now and then I like to give them a good hard fuck like Mr. Pounder does. She's never approached me again since my first visit either. She's been around too and knows who will never be up for her "Egyptian" sales pitch. You would think a girl who doesn't want to be Romanian (or whatever) would pick some other nationality that she could easily pull off.Hi. Yes I saw her and of course she approached me on my way to the bar. She sits near the entrance as if screening. Anyway when she approach me an indian chap behind me gave a signal by putting his thumbs down. I remembered this incident. When she was gone he told me how she upsells and keep pestering on cim. Gave a toothy blowjob and told him that he should have gone for a shower before he saw her (I don't know whether he went for a shower or not but he looked ok). Anyway basically when she does not get a 50 euro extra she is going to give you shit. So with ther you can pund her but it needs to cost 100 euro either cim or whatever extra service.
P / s it is also in my opinion in palace for a nice service you need to spend 100 euro. This is based on my expereince. In fact all of my 50 euro (besides gina) was crap. But the 100 euro was really good! I mean like good!
Islander28
05-07-12, 19:48
I've been using this website for years now and always been useful, thus I thought its time to give back!
I am planning to be in Palace this coming weekend thus will provide a report on that! I've been there once before last year and I would give it overall 6/10.
Two months ago I went to Oase for the first time and I wasnt impressed! Few good looking girls, I would give it 5/10 but had a good threesome :P.
The best FKK in my experience would be Artemis in Berlin, may be because I ve been there over the last few year several times, and the best looking girl iv met was from there, the best time I had was there! Though this year I have been little disappointed! 7/10.
I have been one in Dusseldorf's Dolce Vita as well and think it is similar as Palace!
Anyway will give you guys the low down soon!
- Cunni : Extra.Of course it is extra. If she does not accept this, NO WAY.
And if I am very good, I am quite brazen. I want a tip as well. It is not in my half-hour service though.
Just thought I would say thanks to all you posters for ensuring my first night in an FFK club was special. Spent most of the day and night at Palace and with out your posts I am sure I would have had been hit by all the upselling / sharks that were there. So I took all your advice and had 4 perfect happy sessions (3 half hour ones and 1 full Hour). My main rule was to set what I wanted and negotiated before I went in the room. Once in the room I repeated what was agreed. There was a bit of upselling but not agressive she just excepted no was no.
So again thanks to you all for sharing.
Was it me or does everyone look more at the girls that are partially dressed as aposed to the ones that are fully naked?
LustyHombre
05-08-12, 00:46
Greetings, All.
I'll have a 12 hr layover in FRA next month on a Friday.
Please direct me to where and how I can locate driving directions to Palace and Mainhattan. Or am I likely to have a better time at Sharks, given that I have to be back at FRA by 5pm.
Thanks in advance!
Greetings, All.
I'll have a 12 hr layover in FRA next month on a Friday.
Please direct me to where and how I can locate driving directions to Palace and Mainhattan. Or am I likely to have a better time at Sharks, given that I have to be back at FRA by 5pm.
Thanks in advance!Take taxis. Easier, less time wasted renting / returning.
BadinSweet
05-08-12, 03:04
Forgot to ask when I posted my report.
When visited Palace we had to leave quite early, around midnight. At that time there were few customers around and it appeared that many of the girls vanished.
I was wondering what the situation might be at around 4 am when the place closes down, being that the girls don't have a club rule to follow regarding exit time.
Anyone has experience in this? Staying at the club 'till real late in a night with few customers might lead to be there with no girls around?
KiminoI stayed til closing many times, but mostly on Fri and Sat night, and here are my observations:
- There will be plenty of girls around at closing, between 10-20. Mostly the ones that are available are not the one you would like to session with.
- I'd say by 2-2:30am, action-wise, the place is mostly dead. Guys are just relaxing or recovering, girls will look bored, most girls will stay in the smoking lounge by 3-3:30am.
- Girls that are worth sessioning with will be busy or get quickly grabbed once they are done cleaning up. You can still have a nice session but you better be quick or tell the girls in advance (otherwise some would leave by 2-3am).
- The bartender will start cleaning up by 3:30am. So, unless you order a simple drink like water or soda, you can forget about getting a coffee or cappuccino from 3:30am.
I also see it all the times that some guys will come in between 2-3am. I'm sure they know that the place is closing but when you come in this late can you come back later in the day? Or you just wasted 75E for 2 hours of club visit.
I stayed til closing many times, but mostly on Fri and Sat night, and here are my observations:
- There will be plenty of girls around at closing, between 10-20. Mostly the ones that are available are not the one you would like to session with.
- I'd say by 2-2:30am, action-wise, the place is mostly dead. Guys are just relaxing or recovering, girls will look bored, most girls will stay in the smoking lounge by 3-3:30am.Thanks for the info BadinSweet.
On my next visit I was thinking of staying there late on the second evening and then going directly to the airport to catch my very early flight. Done that many times in Artemis.
Being a Thursday it's probably going to be even worse but I'm not going to die. :)
You know if Mainhattan might be any better in late hours? Doubt it, but in case I might just drop in around midnight and have a look.
Best.
Kimino
Super Cum 500
05-08-12, 09:30
In these fkk oase, palace, manahttan etc. At what point in times do I ahve to be naked?
I'm self consious of some acne on my body. I don't want to have to walk about topless etc. Do I only need to be naked in the shower and when having sex.
Can I bring and wear a t-shirt and shorts?
Amriptna111
05-08-12, 10:04
Dear mongers,
I just wanted to know in fkk for the anal do the girls choose the position for anal or the monger decides? Have anyone of you tried different position for anal besides doggie.
Expereince:- I think some of this girls are cheating on the anal when in doggie style. Meaning for example when you pull out from the butt they fill follow yur movement and when you trust in then they will follow that as well. Basically your dick is in her butt but the thrusting is minimize. This is cheating as you can't really the tight deep thrusting. Anyway I just wanted to clarify this with you guys have you guys encountered similiar situation and how do deal with this kinda of situation.
Dear mongers,
I just wanted to know in fkk for the anal do the girls choose the position for anal or the monger decides? Have anyone of you tried different position for anal besides doggie.
Expereince:- I think some of this girls are cheating on the anal when in doggie style. Meaning for example when you pull out from the butt they fill follow yur movement and when you trust in then they will follow that as well. Basically your dick is in her butt but the thrusting is minimize. This is cheating as you can't really the tight deep thrusting. Anyway I just wanted to clarify this with you guys have you guys encountered similiar situation and how do deal with this kinda of situation.I am not a big anal lover, have done it when I felt for it with certain girls. But with Oase-girls I've never encountered any problems with this kind of "cheating" that you're talking about. Most of all, I think I've proposed the positions with the girls. We're talking mainly cowgirl, where she decides the thrusting, doggie, and missionary-style. I've actually never dared to do any anal at Palace, because I'm fed up with the upsell and generally don't like the atmosphere. There's so many good and friendly girls at Oase, that tells you that they love to be fucked in number 2!
In these fkk oase, palace, manahttan etc. At what point in times do I ahve to be naked?
I'm self consious of some acne on my body. I don't want to have to walk about topless etc. Do I only need to be naked in the shower and when having sex.
Can I bring and wear a t-shirt and shorts?PLEASE SC500: I have lost the count of how many times you've been answered. JUST DO IT. GO TO THE FUXXING CLUB, and discover it on your own! You have to be naked when you have sex and when you shower YES! You can bring a t-shirt and shorts, but you would be the hot gossip subject among the girls, so I suggest you skip it and go for the Frei Körper Kultur! You will be wearing a bathrobe all the time, but you knew that already didn't you? If you don't like to go topless, then you only need to avoid FKK World. But from my point of view, maybe you should just avoid all FKKs, because they are clearly not your thing! Last but not least, go to another forum if you continue asking the same questions all over again.
Amriptna111
05-08-12, 17:48
In these fkk oase, palace, manahttan etc. At what point in times do I ahve to be naked?
I'm self consious of some acne on my body. I don't want to have to walk about topless etc. Do I only need to be naked in the shower and when having sex.
Can I bring and wear a t-shirt and shorts?Sorry but if you have visible acne that looks infectious you may be turned away from the club especially the red sore ones. Girls have also told me they will avoid men with acne especially near the groin area as some believe it could be std). But the thing is acne may look some disease that could passed on to other mongers and working girls especially the red ones and this is bad for the club. Another thing is even dried one will make the girl run away as herpes is also transmitted via skin that just heal. I suggest you wait till your acne improves as I am sure girls will turn you down and they will also inform other working girls.
Yes you can bring in t-shirt and short. Just inform the managemebnt when you enter that you want to wear your shirt and short. Please don't forget your sun block as well.
During sex you MUST wear your t shirt and shorts a you have already brought them in. In the shower I suggest that you be naked as some men like casanova nile likes to give good loving to other mongers. Who knows you may get a good anal in the shower (use your sun block to lube your cornhole). I don't know how much it cost perhaps you could clarify that with casanova nile. Maybe CIM is also avaiable. Like I said check with him beforehand *wink *ink
In these fkk oase, palace, manahttan etc. At what point in times do I ahve to be naked?
Can I bring and wear a t-shirt and shorts?Not a problem. I always bring my fur coat with me or sometimes my ski-oufit (with my Ski boots size 14).
Delta Indigo
05-08-12, 21:56
In these fkk oase, palace, manahttan etc. At what point in times do I ahve to be naked?
I'm self consious of some acne on my body. I don't want to have to walk about topless etc. Do I only need to be naked in the shower and when having sex.
Can I bring and wear a t-shirt and shorts?You wear a bathrobe so that covers it up. Where do you have the acne and how much of it? I do not have much at all, but I excercise an awful lot and sweat all over my body, once I had some acne on my penis just above the base of it. So two ex zits.
I popped them and was worried that some girls would not give me Oral without a condom, but every single girl did.
So unless you have severe acne I would not worry.
London Traveller
05-08-12, 22:14
PLEASE SC500: I have lost the count of how many times you've been answered. JUST DO IT. GO TO THE FUXXING CLUB, and discover it on your own! You have to be naked when you have sex and when you shower YES! You can bring a t-shirt and shorts, but you would be the hot gossip subject among the girls, so I suggest you skip it and go for the Frei Körper Kultur! You will be wearing a bathrobe all the time, but you knew that already didn't you? If you don't like to go topless, then you only need to avoid FKK World. But from my point of view, maybe you should just avoid all FKKs, because they are clearly not your thing! Last but not least, go to another forum if you continue asking the same questions all over again.Calm down! Take a deep breath and relax. SC500 is obviously having a good time on the forum. He is all over it, just like his rash is over him. Let him do his thing, whatever, chill.
Actually your advice is wrong as you don't have to be naked to have sex. Some guys don't bother to remove their robes or slippers (I have this on good authority from a girl). Some guys also wear their own shorts. I can actually see why as not all of us have the knack of doing up the robe properly. I wear a towel underneath the robe all the time as my robe constantly flops open or rides up when I'm sitting down. The very fact that I can see these guys' shorts shows that they have the same problem.
I don't think you need to worry about SC500 going to a club either. But, SC500 if you do go. Drop me a line. I'd love to meet up!
Ibn Buttita
05-09-12, 00:20
Alexandra / Angelina has got to be the girl who was at the root of probably my worst-ever FKK experience, on a visit last year. What's her name made the Egypt sales pitch to me, and like a lot of Romanians she has a look that can pass as Egyptian, but her face went blank when I replied with a greeting in Egyptian Arabic dialect (I picked some up while living there). She was with a friend hunting for a threesome and I told her no thanks, wary of the fake Egypt act. I had some regret when I saw the two of them go up to a guy on a couch nearby, kneeling on either side of him to nuzzle his neck, which gave me a fantastic view of the girls' asses and pussies.
The two of them came up to me a couple of other times later that evening, and I turned them down each time, until the very end of the night. It was about 3:45 AM and I was winding down, content to admire the girls that were left. She and her friend made one last run by me, and my last ounce of hornyness flared up, and I said to myself, why not go out with a nice threesome. Once in the room the pair began to suck me in the most mechanical way. Granted it was the end of the night, but any spark of enthusiasm they showed earlier was gone, they could have passed for zombies. Her friend especially might have been on some sort of drugs.
Five minutes into the session Alexandra suddenly announced that we only had ten minutes left since the club was closing soon. I had mistakenly thought that Palace closed at 5:00, otherwise I would never have gone in in the first place. I tried to argue that we continue to the end of the half hour, but that didn't go anywhere, and let them know what I thought of them starting up a session when they knew it was so close to closing time (my own fault, sure, but I was annoyed). I figured that walking out would have brought on more trouble than it was worth, so I made the best of it by fucking her friend quickly. It was a horrible session, and recalling the episode later I pictured it as a scene of divine retribution, these soulless creatures meting out a mongering punishment to me. Maybe it was the revenge of the ancient Egyptian gods after all?
I can't complain too much about that night, though. The mongering gods had smiled on me earlier that night, granting me kino BJ and decent session with a petite Romanian who looked a lot like Kristin Davis (the cute brunette from Sex in the City) , and then a heavenly hour with that Thai divinity Bee. I'm sorry she's gone.
Avoid Angelina
No Alexandra! Or Angelina! Same chick. I knew I could smell a rat! And she pounced on me right away on my first visit as well, which confirms her hunt for "new blood". Well, I may have been new to Palace, but I was already a seasoned monger up in the game. That's why I mentioned Thebes just to issue her a test. Tute didn't know jack shit about Thebes hahaha! . She's been around too and knows who will never be up for her "Egyptian" sales pitch. You would think a girl who doesn't want to be Romanian (or whatever) would pick some other nationality that she could easily pull off.
Her namn is Angelina, not Alexandra (except if she's decided to change her namn for newbies). She hunts in particular for new blood, and claims to be from Egypt. She is about as Egyptian as Barack Obama (meaning not!). I once did a threesome with her and another girl, when it was my first visit to Palace. She's not very bad, but not worth any repeat either, and your comment about her looks is spot on. She likes rough sex though, so she's right up your alley Mr Pounder! She's known to be from Romania.
Alexandra! That's the one! The one who claims to be from Egypt. Anybody know if it's true? Anyway, I don't care for her look or her personality. She came on to me really strong during my very first visit to Palace. She said she would treat me like a Pharaoh. I'm always on guard with the ones making such big promises! Where there's smoke, there's usually only more smoke. I asked her if she would take me to Thebes. Her answer? What? Where's that? LOL! If she is indeed a legit Egyptian, well then I'm sure Thebes is called something different, or is at least pronounced differently, in Arabic.
Dear mongers,
I just wanted to know in fkk for the anal do the girls choose the position for anal or the monger decides? Have anyone of you tried different position for anal besides doggie.
Expereince:- I think some of this girls are cheating on the anal when in doggie style. Meaning for example when you pull out from the butt they fill follow yur movement and when you trust in then they will follow that as well. Basically your dick is in her butt but the thrusting is minimize. This is cheating as you can't really the tight deep thrusting. Anyway I just wanted to clarify this with you guys have you guys encountered similiar situation and how do deal with this kinda of situation.The position should be a mutual decision. I've had it all kinds of ways and enjoy anal from many different positions: doggy; cowgirl; reverse cowgirl; spoon. Those are the typical positions for anal, but my favorite happens to be missionary anal. I've even fucked a girl in the ass standing up (was her idea)! Sometimes a girl will want to take it a certain way just because it's more comfortable for her. And no, I have had no experience with this "cheating" you mention. Some guys here are asking way too many questions by the way. After awhile you have to stop asking questions and just go and do and learn from your own experiences, then share. Leave just a little bit to the unknown and chance. Just a little bit. Discover some things on your own! It's more fun that way!
PLEASE SC500: I have lost the count of how many times you've been answered. JUST DO IT. GO TO THE FUXXING CLUB, and discover it on your own! You have to be naked when you have sex and when you shower YES! You can bring a t-shirt and shorts, but you would be the hot gossip subject among the girls, so I suggest you skip it and go for the Frei Körper Kultur! You will be wearing a bathrobe all the time, but you knew that already didn't you? If you don't like to go topless, then you only need to avoid FKK World. But from my point of view, maybe you should just avoid all FKKs, because they are clearly not your thing! Last but not least, go to another forum if you continue asking the same questions all over again.Salutes to Supercum500. Just by asking silly questions, he is already hits more than 200 posts.
Why not just like Armpitna, asking then go fucking and reports back. A man going to do what's a man got to do.
Amriptna111
05-09-12, 08:55
Hi,
Has anyone seen this girl martha from Colombia at Palace. It seems that she is popular in this board but last post on her was from last year. Is she still at Palace?
Has anyone come across any colombian at palace recently
London Traveller
05-09-12, 09:46
Hi,
Has anyone seen this girl martha from Colombia at Palace. It seems that she is popular in this board but last post on her was from last year. Is she still at Palace?
Has anyone come across any colombian at palace recentlyCome to Artemis, Berlin. There is a Colombian girl called Michelle who would like to meet you!
not all of us have the knack of doing up the robe properly. I wear a towel underneath the robe all the time as my robe constantly flops open or rides up when I'm sitting down.I usually prefer just the towel because the robes tend to be too hot for me. (I'm usually there spring-late summer) Though I do have trouble knotting the towel. This once led to a fond moment in Oase when I was walking from the kino across the large room on the way to the zimmer with Swiss miss Michelle. I had my precious drink in one hand and my other was around the bubbly Michelle when my knot decided to not hold! I had already been self-conscious about the hard-on that was tenting my towel, but now it was there for all to see! LOL It became a conversation starter with other girls later.
As for SC500, he started posting around the same time as I did in 2009. His acne was bad back then too, if I recall. Not to worry, it will eventually clear up, probably just in time for his first visit.
I'm looking forward to my 5th very soon. Come on over SC, you won't have any more questions after that, except for: What took me so long?
Myr.
Nille Copenhagen
05-09-12, 14:28
I usually prefer just the towel because the robes tend to be too hot for me. (I'm usually there spring-late summer) Though I do have trouble knotting the towel. This once led to a fond moment in Oase when I was walking from the kino across the large room on the way to the zimmer with Swiss miss Michelle. I had my precious drink in one hand and my other was around the bubbly Michelle when my knot decided to not hold! I had already been self-conscious about the hard-on that was tenting my towel, but now it was there for all to see! LOL It became a conversation starter with other girls later.
As for SC500, he started posting around the same time as I did in 2009. His acne was bad back then too, if I recall. Not to worry, it will eventually clear up, probably just in time for his first visit.
I'm looking forward to my 5th very soon. Come on over SC, you won't have any more questions after that, except for: What took me so long?
Myr.I also prefer towels.
Come on guys is a FKK and we are supposed to be naked. We do fuck naked in the Kino. The only reason we have robes on is to spare other people.
Super Cum 500
05-09-12, 15:20
Sorry but if you have visible acne that looks infectious you may be turned away from the club especially the red sore ones. Girls have also told me they will avoid men with acne especially near the groin area as some believe it could be std). But the thing is acne may look some disease that could passed on to other mongers and working girls especially the red ones and this is bad for the club. Another thing is even dried one will make the girl run away as herpes is also transmitted via skin that just heal. I suggest you wait till your acne improves as I am sure girls will turn you down and they will also inform other working girls.
Yes you can bring in t-shirt and short. Just inform the managemebnt when you enter that you want to wear your shirt and short. Please don't forget your sun block as well.
During sex you MUST wear your t shirt and shorts a you have already brought them in. In the shower I suggest that you be naked as some men like casanova nile likes to give good loving to other mongers. Who knows you may get a good anal in the shower (use your sun block to lube your cornhole). I don't know how much it cost perhaps you could clarify that with casanova nile. Maybe CIM is also avaiable. Like I said check with him beforehand *wink *ink
You wear a bathrobe so that covers it up. Where do you have the acne and how much of it? I do not have much at all, but I excercise an awful lot and sweat all over my body, once I had some acne on my penis just above the base of it. So two ex zits.
I popped them and was worried that some girls would not give me Oral without a condom, but every single girl did.
So unless you have severe acne I would not worry.Guys I have had cystic acne since I was 12/13 mainly on my back and I mean tirple headed boils with blood busting out etc. Now I'm my 20s it had reduced a lot but I still have scars and some active spots. The reason I never had gfs or sex when young was due to this hence I ended up getting involved in this mongerign at a young age. I have some marks and spots on my back, shoulders and chest but nothing hidous like it used to be. I shaved my pubes and have 2-3 spots round base of penis as a result. I guess I need to wait until they have gone. My acne will never go so I can't wait for it to go before I have sex.
I just wanted to know in fkk for the anal do the girls choose the position for anal or the monger decides? Have anyone of you tried different position for anal besides doggie.My experience is that the girl lets me choose the position that we perform anal sex on her. We are talking about multiple position anal sex too. The anal sex positions can be anything from cowgirl anal, reverse cowgirl anal (good visual of asshole penetration) , doggie anal, missionary anal, woman flat on stomach anal, etc. For visuals I like missionary anal. You can see her face, her pussy (redundant and un-used) and your hard on penetrating her asshole.
Amriptna111
05-09-12, 23:22
Guys I have had cystic acne since I was 12/13 mainly on my back and I mean tirple headed boils with blood busting out etc. Now I'm my 20s it had reduced a lot but I still have scars and some active spots. The reason I never had gfs or sex when young was due to this hence I ended up getting involved in this mongerign at a young age. I have some marks and spots on my back, shoulders and chest but nothing hidous like it used to be. I shaved my pubes and have 2-3 spots round base of penis as a result. I guess I need to wait until they have gone. My acne will never go so I can't wait for it to go before I have sex.Dude if you are really ashamed of it get an escort to go to your place or rld and insist on havnig sex with clothes on. Simple solution to your problem. Else just buy a soap and keep on jacking off or get a mail order bride from some country.
Super Cum 500
05-10-12, 02:12
Dude if you are really ashamed of it get an escort to go to your place or rld and insist on havnig sex with clothes on. Simple solution to your problem. Else just buy a soap and keep on jacking off or get a mail order bride from some country.Its not bad anymore just soem scars and 1 or 2 spots now and then.
If I can wear a robe in FKK thats fine, I might just go to the RLD though but I'm not sure the girls are as good looking and service is as good BBBJ, DFK etc.
Its not bad anymore just soem scars and 1 or 2 spots now and then.
If I can wear a robe in FKK thats fine, I might just go to the RLD though but I'm not sure the girls are as good looking and service is as good BBBJ, DFK etc.If that's not that bad, so nothing you should worry about. Just do it.
Where actually you are going to go? Latin America, Germany, Thailand or Siberia? Because you also looking for white girls on Thailand (Foreign Pros section) which are cost more money (for ticket and girls). Or maybe you just dreaming of?
Super Cum 500
05-10-12, 17:26
If that's not that bad, so nothing you should worry about. Just do it.
Where actually you are going to go? Latin America, Germany, Thailand or Siberia? Because you also looking for white girls on Thailand (Foreign Pros section) which are cost more money (for ticket and girls). Or maybe you just dreaming of?I have lots of money LOL no problems. Problem is I want nice holiday best service and best looking girls. For me going to Germany has 0 appeal but for fact I can get girls I know I am attracted to. Going to Thailand has lots of appeal but I get bored of Thai girls sexually quick and I've done it before so I want to try hot Euro / Latin girls. So for me Germany seems place to go for the girls I want. Whereas Thailand seems place to go for holiday / sex. Hence I was enquiring possibility to fidn attractive white girls in Thailand as that would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Even at rates of 5000-10000 Baht for long time with Russian in Thailand is very cheap in comparison 3000-7000baht equivelant in FKK with European girl for 30mins, if you want extras and what not.
For me.
Germany has no appeal. I don't like idea of FKK, not to keen on RLD, and going to Germany as a holiday destination has 0 appeal. I forsee going to some dull hotel, sit in room, then go out for sex, then back to hotel. Very dull few days holiday but I should get sex with attractive white girls.
Thailand has much appeal. Girls everywhere, lots of fun and games, nice weather, sight seeing, beaches, food, culture, nice hotel, freindly staff, easy to make good company, freindly bars, cheap drinks, clubs even if alone, no problems, then girls that will please you all day and night. Only problem is I'm not particualry attracted to asian girls at all (long flights. 3d world poverty, diseases and traffic other concerns but not major issues). Still worth it overall though and very cheap once you arrive. Only air fare is costly. Its a total holiday package with a lot of sex in it.
So as you can see going to Germany is a stereotypical german boring mechanical process. GO for sex with hot girl. Whereas Thailand is a whole massive fun realxing enjoyable exciting holiday.
Last time I were in Prague I wished I was back in Thailand. Sure there was some hotter girls in Prague but I was just bored out my mind alone there. In between sex not much to do especially having been there 4 times.
If I lived in London I would just get escorts there as I know many are attractive but where I stay not the case and expensive. Rather fly to Germany than pay here. Its a crap situation overall tbh. If only I were attracted to Thai girls I would be sorted.
Its not bad anymore just soem scars and 1 or 2 spots now and then.
If I can wear a robe in FKK thats fine, I might just go to the RLD though but I'm not sure the girls are as good looking and service is as good BBBJ, DFK etc.I have found the lighting level in most clubs including the rooms to be quite low so any imperfections might go unnoticed.
I have found the lighting level in most clubs including the rooms to be quite low so any imperfections might go unnoticed.A very good point. Just last week I entered a club early and had to take a few minutes to see what bills I was getting from my wallet; the theke lady told me with a big smile, that she usually needs a few minutes to adjust to the dim lighting as well. Downside is that once the weather improves, some ladies still plaster their faces with make up, which becomes kind of obvious in the daylight of the garden. I was in Oase end of March, the first 20+ degree (by a margin) of the year, and I was discussing with a friend how some of the girls were still wearing their 'winter make-up'; they looked like clowns.
Hessen Bub
05-11-12, 09:47
IGermany has no appeal. I don't like idea of FKK, not to keen on RLD, and going to Germany as a holiday destination has 0 appeal. I forsee going to some dull hotel, sit in room, then go out for sex, then back to hotel. Very dull few days holiday but I should get sex with attractive white girls.Then go SPAM the Thailand section of the board.
HB
How did this SuperCum500 character become a senior member anyway? It is evident that he is just some kid with REALLY bad acne who is somewhat afraid of women, even when thinking of paying for them. And only thinking, or rather dreaming, because it seems he has no money to actually do it. Don't you have to be over 21 to be on this board? There are lots of "acne and self-esteem issues" discussoin boards online. This one is about posting reports from people who have actually seen some action.
Angus Magee
05-11-12, 10:59
Then go SPAM the Thailand section of the board.
HBNo I think SC500 should start planning a trip to Kiev and posting his inquiries on the Kiev thread. Then all the guys giving LilJoey such a hard time these days will see what a real forum troll looks like.
Seriously, I suggest no one even replies to SC500 any more. All he could say for a while was how bad his acne boils were, then when it was finally suggested that he see an escort instead, suddenly the acne is not so bad any more. Now this. It is all classic manipulation, designed only to get a bit of attention. The more it is given, the more he will post. Hell, SC500 should be paying us for the trouble.
Just my 2 cents.
AM
Seriously, I suggest no one even replies to SC500 any more. All he could say for a while was how bad his acne boils were, then when it was finally suggested that he see an escort instead, suddenly the acne is not so bad any more. Now this. It is all classic manipulation, designed only to get a bit of attention. The more it is given, the more he will post. Hell, SC500 should be paying us for the trouble.
Just my 2 cents.
AMTotally agree with AM & HB and all the others that have expressed their boredom with SC500. And I do not wish to feed the troll, but I felt compelled to reply:
Germany has no appeal. I don't like idea of FKK, not to keen on RLD, and going to Germany as a holiday destination has 0 appeal. I forsee going to some dull hotel, sit in room, then go out for sex, then back to hotel. Very dull few days holiday but I should get sex with attractive white girls.For a fellow who doesn't like the idea of FKK, you sure spent a lot of time & energy inquiring about it.
As for Germany as a holiday destination, I take offence: I have made 4 trips to Germany in the time you have been posting. Admittedly the primary factor was the FKKs, but I also took 'tourist' trips on each visit. Both commercial trips and some I organized myself. And I had a Great time! The sights are beautiful, the history fantastic and the people were always the crowning touch! On my up cuming trip I have plans to return to several FKKs and a couple more 'tours'. They are also useful for extending your stamina on a long trip.
I have found the German people to be very nice and accommodating. I even enjoyed a trip to Scotland during this period! I even visited the Sauna clubs there, though I did not partake. But at least I went and tried it.
Myr.
As for Germany as a holiday destination, I take offence.No, do allow him his 0 interest Germany prejudice. Germany needs him like an acne boil on the arse. Back to matters concerning Palace.
Amriptna111
05-11-12, 14:27
No, do allow him his 0 interest Germany prejudice. Germany needs him like an acne boil on the arse. Back to matters concerning Palace.I don't think he has even had sex. I think the dude is a mommy's boys whoe dreams of having money and having sex while wanking off watching porn in his mothers basement.
Ok back to palace? Has anyone here tried the latin selection overthere and can you recommend a girl who provides good service. Am into some latino action maybe again next Sunday hehehe? P / s how is the traffic in palace on weekends anyway as I have never been there on weekends
Hessen Bub
05-11-12, 17:31
Saturday night will be very busy, including waiting time for rooms. Sunday is rather slow and relaxed, also less girls than on weekdays.
I can recommend Marina from Cuba, she's been at Palace for a few years and provides good service, no rip ofd.
HB
As for Germany as a holiday destination, I take offence: I have made 4 trips to Germany in the time you have been posting. Admittedly the primary factor was the FKKs, but I also took 'tourist' trips on each visit. Both commercial trips and some I organized myself. And I had a Great time! The sights are beautiful, the history fantastic and the people were always the crowning touch! On my up cuming trip I have plans to return to several FKKs and a couple more 'tours'. They are also useful for extending your stamina on a long trip. I have found the German people to be very nice and accommodating.
Myr."Normal" tourist by day and "sexual" tourist by night! That's the ticket, and you can use it in any country where you might find yourself for a few days or more.
Cybernauta
05-13-12, 13:40
"Normal" tourist by day and "sexual" tourist by night! That's the ticket, and you can use it in any country where you might find yourself for a few days or more.Hi! I came across this thread talking about Germany as a touristic destination, not just for its yummie FKK. Well, in my view, Germany's a great country to visit! Their cities are clean, with easy and reliable network of transports; facilities for tourists are good and cheap, compared to other countries. I visited Berlin (awesome) , Munich (extraordinary) , Hamburg (freezing but efficient) , Dusseldorf-Cologne-Bonn (great boat trip on the majestic Rhine river) and Frankfurt am Main (superb skyline and fantastic for its sexual scene) ; I wish that my country, Italy, could rival this German new deal, but with prices too high for almost everything and with the lack of FKK,"il bel paese" is going to lose a lot in the future;
Hi! I came across this thread talking about Germany as a touristic destination, not just for its yummie FKK. Well, in my view, Germany's a great country to visit! Their cities are clean, with easy and reliable network of transports; facilities for tourists are good and cheap, compared to other countries. I visited Berlin (awesome) , Munich (extraordinary) , Hamburg (freezing but efficient) , Dusseldorf-Cologne-Bonn (great boat trip on the majestic Rhine river) and Frankfurt am Main (superb skyline and fantastic for its sexual scene) ; I wish that my country, Italy, could rival this German new deal, but with prices too high for almost everything and with the lack of FKK,"il bel paese" is going to lose a lot in the future;Italy can't rival this German new deal because of prices too high and the lack of FKK? Are you serious?
Did too much swimming in Rostok?
The club is fine, it's the management that sucks. :)
But we will get through this. In any case, this is not the correct thread to talk about touristic detination comparisons or how you feel about your country.
Ciao.
Kimino.
Senza polemica, giuro!
Some guys also wear their own shorts. I can actually see why as not all of us have the knack of doing up the robe properly. I wear a towel underneath the robe all the time as my robe constantly flops open or rides up when I'm sitting down. The very fact that I can see these guys' shorts shows that they have the same problem.Yes I can see that a few guys have the same problem. Born in the USA or England makes for some extreme prudes. Two Americans in the changing room had to wear swimming trunks while changing or in the showers in case someone saw their willie. Really no one was interested to check them out.
In Germany extreme prudishness is very abnormal.
The girls should be nude and if the guys are nude too, it doesn't matter. Certainly at Oase outdoors not too many guys are worried if someone sees their dick.
At Oase, the rules are that you must swim in the pool or go in Jacuzzi absolutely naked. Wearing shorts is not officially permitted.
Guys, try to get used to the idea that its incongruous to want naked girls but be trying very hard to protect your modesty. No one cares if your figure is not so great.
I prefer a very small towel as a large one is too long and awkward. Its more for conformity than for any other purpose, however it makes sense that they don't want potentially smelly unclean uncovered asses or dicks directly on the furniture. If anything gets exposed, it just doesn't matter. I never use a robe unless in extreme need of a pocket to keep mobile phone or similar. Both a robe and a towel is starting to be somewhat over-dressed IMHO.
Luckystar24
05-14-12, 03:12
Anyone know the whereabouts of Vanessa (tattoos) , formerly of Palace and then Sharks?
Rather enjoyed her company.
Hessen Bub
05-15-12, 08:01
Anyone know the whereabouts of Vanessa (tattoos) , formerly of Palace and then Sharks?
Rather enjoyed her company.No, she's not at Sharks. As far as I know she's currently out of business. She might come back, who knows. The only "Tattoo" girl from Palace still at Sharks from time to time is Tina.
HB
Anyone know the whereabouts of Vanessa (tattoos) , formerly of Palace and then Sharks?
Rather enjoyed her company.Talking about tattoos, on my last visit at Palace I saw a girl with a big tattoo on her left shoulder going down on her arm. I remember her as quite tall, black / dark hair, cute, sitting in the area outside of the smoking area with other girls. She smiled a couple of times but I chosed other girls. She is among the ones that I was intersted in.
I know it's not a detailed decription but anyone recognize who she might be, and can give info?
Ciao.
Kimino
Talking about tattoos, on my last visit at Palace I saw a girl with a big tattoo on her left shoulder going down on her arm. I remember her as quite tall, black / dark hair, cute, sitting in the area outside of the smoking area with other girls. She smiled a couple of times but I chosed other girls. She is among the ones that I was intersted in.
I know it's not a detailed decription but anyone recognize who she might be, and can give info?
Ciao.
KiminoMaybe Lulu? Tattoos on both arms, tall in heels at least, dark hair, smokes of course. Does tend to smile if she sees you looking in her direction. Austrian, so generally talking with Germans. I've written some reports about her, which you'll see through a thread search. Very fit body, silicon boobs but not too big. Maybe her?
Maybe Lulu? Tattoos on both arms, tall in heels at least, dark hair, smokes of course. Does tend to smile if she sees you looking in her direction. Austrian, so generally talking with Germans. I've written some reports about her, which you'll see through a thread search. Very fit body, silicon boobs but not too big. Maybe her?Could be! I'll go searching for your reports.
Thanks a lot!
Kimino
Hi,
I am going to go Palace in this weekend.
My favorite is a leggy thick girl with a nice round ass.
I like a tight thick girl, but not a fatty one nor slim one.
Does anyone have any recommendation at Palace?
Thanks,
Peachfun
Hessen Bub
05-17-12, 09:47
Talking about tattoos, on my last visit at Palace I saw a girl with a big tattoo on her left shoulder going down on her arm. I remember her as quite tall, black / dark hair, cute, sitting in the area outside of the smoking area with other girls. She smiled a couple of times but I chosed other girls. She is among the ones that I was intersted in.
I know it's not a detailed decription but anyone recognize who she might be, and can give info?
Ciao.
KiminoBig breasts? Rather tanned? About mid to end twenties? Coloured tattoo? Could be Monica from CZ / Spain. She was at Palace years ago, then she was gone. Saw her again at Sharks a few weeks ago, maybe she returned to Hausen.
HB
Big breasts? Rather tanned? About mid to end twenties? Coloured tattoo? Could be Monica from CZ / Spain. She was at Palace years ago, then she was gone. Saw her again at Sharks a few weeks ago, maybe she returned to Hausen.
HBTo the description, I'm sure she is Lulu, I'm was with her 2 weeks ago, very nice and friendly and hot in the room and very good service probably for the good chemistry between us!
Ciao
Talking about tattoos, on my last visit at Palace I saw a girl with a big tattoo on her left shoulder going down on her arm. I remember her as quite tall, black / dark hair, cute, sitting in the area outside of the smoking area with other girls. She smiled a couple of times but I chosed other girls. She is among the ones that I was intersted in.
I know it's not a detailed decription but anyone recognize who she might be, and can give info?
Ciao.
KiminoI visited Frankfurt (and Palace) back in December, it was my first FKK experience in fact. (I'm new here but I'm a frequent traveler to places like Brazil, Peru, Mexico, Cuba, etc.)
I took careful notes about my trip but I promptly lost them. But I'm fairly certain I know the girl you're talking about. Did she have pierced nipples? And a tall / thin model-type build? I'm sorry that I forgot her name, but I did go to the room with her. After four days in Frankfurt I had fucked about a million Romanians, a few girls who claimed not to be Romanian but were, and maybe a few Polish chicks. On my last day at Palace I ran into this girl, she was German, and I was excited to finally be with a German girl.
She's also just my type, I like tall, thin girls and I love tattoos and piercings.
Her service was only OK. Tried for the upsell the moment we got into the room. I said let's start with the normal 50-Euro session and see how it goes. She started with a pretty good BBBJ but the sex was only ok. I wanted her to ride me cowgirl but after a minute or two she said she was tired and wanted me to be on top. If I wanted to work for it I'd just sleep with my wife! Keep in mind this was my last session on my last day of a trip filled with RLD and FKK visits, so I was somewhat tired as well. The sex wasn't working for me so I requested that we go back to the BBBJ and I'd do the CIM for 50 extra. But when she went back to the BBBJ this time it wasn't as good as it was in the beginning. She used her hand way too much and just wasn't into it. So I said I wanted to go back to sex and she complained that I already agreed to the CIM which, of course, meant more cash. So I gave in and said I'd do an hour. I let her continue the BBBJ for quite a while, I wanted her to work for the cash. Then I pounded her doggie style to finish just inside the hour for 100 Euros total.
Overall I'd say she was somewhat businesslike and nothing special. Of course, YMMV. And knowing what I do about her performance, I'd likely still have done a session with her since she is very attractive.
But I'm fairly certain I know the girl you're talking about. Did she have pierced nipples? And a tall / thin model-type build?Must be her.
Thin, long dark hair.
Thanks for the info.
Might try her next month when I'll be back at Palace.
Ciao.
Kimino
Must be her.
Thin, long dark hair.
Thanks for the info.
Might try her next month when I'll be back at Palace.
Ciao.
KiminoIf the tattoos were just black / shade of gray, and Japanese-themed, like waves of a tsunami, I'd guess it might be Nika. Nika's very business-like, per the description, but pretty hot, fits the model description.
Doesn't kiss but I wasn't disappointed. Definitely not GFE, but I knew what I was getting in the deal.
I recently returned from a 5-day mongering trip to Frankfurt and vicinity. When I asked for some information a few weeks ago, I promised reports in return, so here they are. My original intent was to go to Palace, World, Oase, Sharks, and Mainhattan. I never made it to Sharks but I did go to Mainhattan twice, so I managed to visit one FKK every day. I didn't have time to post reports while I was there, but I took extensive notes on the spot that pretty much recall everything.
The first place I visited was Palace on Friday, May 11. I had arrived earlier that day on an overnight flight from Dallas. I caught a few hours sleep, but I was still tired and jet-lagged, so I was unsure about how well I could perform. I needn't have worried; the very sight of the girls perked me up. I arrived at Palace about 6pm. It was a much smalIer place than I had anticipated from their website. Paid the 75 euro entrance fee and got a robe and flip flops and a locker key. The key opens both the clothes lock and the small safe where you keep the money to pay the girl. They told me when I checked in that the price for the girls was 50 euros for each half hour, and that included French without a condom and normal sex. The only extras mentioned were CIM which was 50 euros extra and anal which was 100 euros extra. (This will be important later, as we shall see.) So I changed into my robe, got something to eat at the very nice buffet, and went looking.
This was my first time in an FKK since I visited Artemis in Berlin in November 2009, which was my only previous FKK experience. I know you guys are used to it, but to someone who hasn't done this in a while the sight of dozens of beautiful girls totally naked can be breathtaking and overwhelming. I decided just to sit and take in the scenery for a while. I had been forewarned from the forum about the sharkiness of the place, and I wasn't disappointed. I was approached by girls constantly. The first one to approach me was Angelina from Egypt, and I knew from RTFF to avoid her.
The first girl I went with was a beautiful Polish girl named Chantal, a tall, thin small-breasted blonde who was easily the most beautiful girl in the place. She truly has the face of a movie star. She is easily identifiable from a huge butterfly tattoo on her right shoulder and tattoos running up her spine that look like Chinese characters. Chantal approached me together with another Polish blonde and of course they wanted a threesome. I said no, I only wanted Chantal. So off we went to a room.
Chantal was a pure optifick (a term I learned from this forum) , I. E, I selected her on looks alone. As soon as we got to the room I saw that communication was going to be a real problem. Her English was very poor, but she can probably communicate better in German, which I don't speak. She asked me repeatedly throughout the session how much time I wanted, and I tried to tell her (as I would eventually tell every girl) , let's start with a half hour and if all goes well we'll continue for an hour. But she just didn't understand this and kept asking me over and over, how much time, which soon became very annoying. When we started getting physical, she did a half-hearted DFK, I did DATY for a while, she gave a good BBBJ and then put the condome on and rode me in CG. While I was performing DATY I tried to lick her asshole, but she wanted 50 extra for that. She wouldn't allow FIV, refused 69. After we fucked in CG for a while I pulled out and attempted to mount her in missionary, but she said "no, I don't like that position," so we went back to CG, and then she rode me like a pro. A rocking pelvic motion back and forth on my cock, as if she had a motor in her pelvis, which got me rock hard and led to a volcanic orgasm. So I wasn't totally disappointed. You will probably have a much better time with Chantal if you speak German, because communication was a major problem.
Summary of Chantal: Looks: 9. 75 (.25 off for small breasts)
Service: 6. 5-7.
Attitude: 6.
Regrets? No. Would I repeat? No.
I decided to relax for a while and went to the kino. I saw Angelina giving a guy a BJ in the kino. I then thought I had hit paydirt with the next girl I went with, Lucia, who said she was Brazilian. She started DFKing me in the kino, to which I avidly agreed and began reciprocating. I knew that this was effectively closing the deal, so I asked for a BJ. She asked "will you pay me" and I said "of course." She sucked me for a while and then we went to a room.
I speak Portuguese and started talking to her in Portuguese, but I noticed that she was responding to me in Spanish. At one point she asked me if I spoke the Portuguese of Lisbon or of Brazil, something a native speaker would never have to ask. So Lucia isn't Brazilian, but I don't know where she's really from. If I had to hazard a guess, I would say Spain.
Lucia is reasonably attractive, but not a knockout. She has brown hair and a well-proportioned figure, medium height, just a little too tall to be a spinner. Her looks and body were fine with me because it was her performance that was outstanding. I had such a good time with her that I stayed with her for 2 hours, something I didn't do with any other girl on my entire trip. My time with her was pure GFE: DFK, DATY, BBBJ. 69, MPOS, FIV. Twice I inserted my index and middle fingers in her vagina palm upward and began stroking the upper wall of her vagina with a beckoning motion, something designed to stimulate a woman's g-spot; it works with some women and not with others. It certainly worked with Lucia; she came twice and started writhing and moaning in ecstasy. I had brought a Pocket Rocket (a small vibrator) with me and wanted to apply it to her clitoris. She declined but asked if she could put it up my ass. I said why not, so she put a lubricated condom on the vibrator, inserted it into my anus, and turned it on. It was an interesting sensation but didn't really do a whole lot for me. I ended up pounding her in missionary with her legs over my shoulders and had a volcanic orgasm myself. Two hours of paradise, right?
Wrong! Do you know the old saying that if something is too good to be true it usually is. At the end of 2 hours I was prepared to pay her 200 euros for her time and I was also prepared to give her a 20 euro tip for excellent service. Well, she springs on me that she wants 150 extra over and above the 200, 50 for the BJ in the kino. 50 for the FIV, and 50 for the vibrator up my ass. I told her that she had not indicated that any of these would be extra. She said,"I asked in the kino if you would pay me for the BJ and you said yes." I acknowledged this and said that I thought she understood that, when I agreed to go to the room, the kino BJ would be included as part of the session. As for the other two things, I told her that she should have told me that they were extra BEFORE we did them and not spring it on me afterward.
We then went to the cash lockers and I gave her 200 euros for her time. She again asked for 150 more, and I refused. She then went to get the mamasan who was in charge and related the story. The mamasan told her that she was not entitled to payment for the kino BJ but that she was right about the other 2 things. The following dialogue then ensued between the mamasan and me:
MAMASAN: We told you when you came in that the price for the girl included French without condom and normal sex, and that anything else would be extra. So you owe 100 euros for the 2 extras.
LORENZO: No, you didn't tell me that anything else would be extra. The only extras you mentioned were CIM and anal. And as far as I'm concerned, fingering a pussy IS part of normal sex (here Mamasan shakes her head no) , and even if it isn't I should have been told before she let me do it. And as for sticking the vibrator up my ass, she offered to do it, I didn't ask her to do it.
MAMASAN: None of that matters. You still owe 100 euros more.
LORENZO: Well, I won't pay it, and that's final!
MAMASAN: In that case I'll have to call the police.
LORENZO: Fine, call the police then. Meanwhile I'm going to get dressed.
Which is what I proceeded to do. Too bad, because I was still up for another girl, but I figured this might be a good time to leave. I'm a pretty good poker player and I know a bluff when I see one. I knew she was bluffing because no modern urban police department is going to get involved in a dispute between a WG and a client over pricing. What I was more afraid of is that she might send a couple of gorillas out to break my legs. After all, these places may well be run by organized crime. So I thought it might be most expeditious to get the hell out of there.
When I went to turn in my key it turned out that I was right. She was bluffing after all. Mamasan was at the front desk and made no mention of the 100 euros. However, then she sprung on me that I owed 27 euros for drinks I had ordered. I said "what drinks? All I had was Coca-Cola Light!" She showed me a bill that said I had had two beers and a scotch. She then called over the bartender who said that I wasn't the man who had the drinks. And then I left.
Summary of Lucia: Looks: 7.
Service: 10.
Attitude: 10 until the very end, then 1.
Regrets? No. Would I repeat? Yes, but I don't think Lucia would repeat with me.
My final appraisal of Palace: I think there is a fine array of girls there, the food is good, and it is a physically attractive place. But because of my experience there and the constant attempt to label everything an extra, I wouldn't go back to Palace even if I lived in Frankfurt and it were the only FKK around. I'd find another way to seek sexual gratification.
Lorenzo
Amriptna111
05-19-12, 01:21
Lorenzo,
Man that was a really bad experience. I didn't know finger in the vagina vost 50 euro as well? I did that before tgwice but never got charged with it. Depends on the girls. Anyway thanks for the report and I think I shall take your advice and would never go for the girl you went with.
Lorenzo.
Thanks for the great report. With names / descriptions.
Yup. Know the feeling. I. E. Jet lagged but then walking into club full of named women! !
Look forward to your other reports.
S. Trato.
MAMASAN: We told you when you came in that the price for the girl included French without condom and normal sex, and that anything else would be extra. So you owe 100 euros for the 2 extras.
LORENZO: No, you didn't tell me that anything else would be extra. The only extras you mentioned were CIM and anal. And as far as I'm concerned, fingering a pussy IS part of normal sex (here Mamasan shakes her head no) , and even if it isn't I should have been told before she let me do it. And as for sticking the vibrator up my ass, she offered to do it, I didn't ask her to do it.
MAMASAN: None of that matters. You still owe 100 euros more.Ciao Lorenzo, sorry you had this bad experience.
Here is my 2 cents on this.
The kino stuff is BS and everybody except the girl agrees on this. What is clear is that she was trying it.
The fingering. I got this same crap in Artemis from one that I was starting to consider a favorite of mine and that blew it with that move. It was anal fingering (on her) , stuff we did many times but last time she charged me without telling me before. Bad move.
Usually girls tell you if they don't want fingering, but if they don't say something it's free.
For the vibrator, not my cup of tea, but it would have flipped in me as a possible extra.
In general it's obviously a girl to avoid or to handle with extreme care, being that you said it was a great session apart from the money problems.
Kimino
then she sprung on me that I owed 27 euros for drinks I had ordered. I said "what drinks? All I had was Coca-Cola Light!" She showed me a bill that said I had had two beers and a scotch. She then called over the bartender who said that I wasn't the man who had the drinks.First, thank you for an excellent report. It gives a bit of the 'flavour' of the place and what can happen, if you're not careful.
Next, sorry that you had to experience that situation, but on the other hand, Bravo for the way you handled it. Agreed that the 'Police Bluff' was easily deduced, they obviously hoped you were flustered.
What concerns me a bit is the bar bill. You expect 'problems' with the humans, ie the girls, but I thought they used a computerized 'chip' on your wrist band to record your bar tab. In reading the 'chip' upon your exit, you should not have had a problem. Thank goodness the bar tender was legit. Although by that time I imagine two beers and a scotch would have looked pretty good!
Myr.
What concerns me a bit is the bar bill. You expect 'problems' with the humans, ie the girls, but I thought they used a computerized 'chip' on your wrist band to record your bar tab. In reading the 'chip' upon your exit, you should not have had a problem. Thank goodness the bar tender was legit. Although by that time I imagine two beers and a scotch would have looked pretty good!
Myr.Last time I was there the computer was stuck and to drink you had to go to the receptio, pay, and then they would call the bar telling you paid for this or that.
Just a little bit clumsy.
Kimino
What concerns me a bit is the bar bill. You expect 'problems' with the humans, ie the girls, but I thought they used a computerized 'chip' on your wrist band to record your bar tab. In reading the 'chip' upon your exit, you should not have had a problem. Thank goodness the bar tender was legit.I don't trust these systems either. The last time I visited Palace was about a week or so after they introduced this system. At that time the chip was separate from the locker key and was worn around the neck, like the key is in Samya. On entry they either didn't give me one or possibly left it on the counter with the towel and I just didn't pick it up since I was not expecting it. It caused a little confusion when I left and didn't have one but in the end it wasn't a problem.
I'm not sure exactly how their system works but you have no way of knowing if the chip has been reset from the previous customer.
Hessen Bub
05-19-12, 16:12
but you have no way of knowing if the chip has been reset from the previous customer.True. Just let them show you that the balance on the chip is zero when you enter. I never had anything on my chip what didn't belong there. Actually I never had something on my chip at all.
HB
SinjinSwift
05-21-12, 09:05
alexandra / angelina has got to be the girl who was at the root of probably my worst-ever fkk experience, on a visit last year. what's her name made the egypt sales pitch to me, and like a lot of romanians she has a look that can pass as egyptian.i ran into this girl as well. luckily i escaped relatively unrep001hed, but i wouldn't go back with her again. and, in fact, when i returned at another time she simply would not take no for an answer. still, i stuck to my guns and just laughed it off, but she was very upset.
too many other, better girls to choose from.
Thanks Lorenzo for a very good and detailed report. I salute you for your persistance!
The first one to approach me was Angelina from Egypt, and I knew from RTFF to avoid her.Good boy! Nice to see that my (and many others) warnings has led to some direct action, or lack of so!
The first girl I went with was a beautiful Polish girl named Chantal, a tall, thin small-breasted blonde who was easily the most beautiful girl in the place. She truly has the face of a movie star. She is easily identifiable from a huge butterfly tattoo on her right shoulder and tattoos running up her spine that look like Chinese characters. Chantal approached me together with another Polish blonde and of course they wanted a threesome. I said no, I only wanted Chantal. So off we went to a room.Well, if you had read my report, you would have avoided this girl as well. She presented herself as Chanel to me, but her butterfly tattoo on her shoulder gives her away! She is by definition the worst girl I've ever encountered in a FKK. It says a lot, but presumably you've had a slightly better experience than I had. YMMV. Communication is not the problem with this girl. She is simply not compatible with me. I can reveal why she didn't want any other position than CG: She don't like positions where she has to show her "third" hole. She had an extra hole between her anus and vagina! She does upsell like nobody I've seen before. Everything is extra!
When I went to turn in my key it turned out that I was right. She was bluffing after all. Mamasan was at the front desk and made no mention of the 100 euros. However, then she sprung on me that I owed 27 euros for drinks I had ordered. I said "what drinks? All I had was Coca-Cola Light!" She showed me a bill that said I had had two beers and a scotch. She then called over the bartender who said that I wasn't the man who had the drinks. And then I left.She was obviously pissed so she tried her last chance of getting you to pay some extra, and failed miserably. But when it comes to extras, from my experience, you'll have to be vigilant as girls won't necessarily tell you about the extra costs. Well I know, in the heat of the action it is easier said then done!
Nille Copenhagen
05-21-12, 23:31
She don't like positions where she has to show her "third" hole. She had an extra hole between her anus and vagina! She does upsell like nobody I've seen before. Everything is extra!I've heard about this girl with the extra hole, how is that possible? Maybe I just need to see it myself.
If the tattoos were just black / shade of gray, and Japanese-themed, like waves of a tsunami, I'd guess it might be Nika. Nika's very business-like, per the description, but pretty hot, fits the model description.
Doesn't kiss but I wasn't disappointed. Definitely not GFE, but I knew what I was getting in the deal.Yes, Nika sounds right. I took careful notes about names, service, price, etc. After lurking on this forum for a while I was hoping to have useful info to share about the FKKs and also the RLD, but alas I lost the piece of paper.
Anyway, despite Nika's businesslike performance, I have no regrets and may even repeat. But I wouldn't do an hour, just a quickie to get started for the day perhaps. She is just my type.
So I thought I'd share my experiences at Palace from my trip in December. I hope this is useful to someone, in any event it's nice to remember the great time I had.
I arrived in Frankfurt early in the morning and checked in early to my hotel near the Hbf. Since I was staying in the heart of the red light district, after a nap and some lunch I decided to check out the possibilities there and ended up doing a quickie with a really hot young Romanian girl. She was one of the hottest girls of my whole trip, and the service, while not up to FKK standards, was not half bad for 20 Euros. After that I decided to head to Palace.
It's one of the easiest FKK's to get to from central Frankfurt. You can take the U6 or U7 train to the Industriehof station and it's a short walk from there. This was my first time at an FKK, so the woman at the front desk gave me the rundown. Entry was 75 Euros and the girls start at 50 Euros. She gave me a key for a locker and also for a small locker near the front. You can lock your clothes in the locker and your wallet and phone in the small locker. There are showers in the locker room.
After paying, taking a quick shower and getting comfy in my towel, I wandered out into the main area. Palace had one of the better layouts of the three FKK clubs I visited. There is a bar / club area, which also has some benches and bed-type areas, some partially obscured by hanging curtains, to lounge with the girls. There is also a separate area with a hot tub surrounded by sort of deck chairs that recline. Some of these are in alcoves, which is nice since it gives you a semi-private area to take a nap or be alone between sessions. The girls don't seem to come to you if you're lying in this area unless you make contact with them. Well, with one exception that I'll get to. Still, it's nice to have a place to recover after a session or two. There are also saunas in this area.
I hit the bar to start, non-alcoholic drinks are free so I got a diet coke. A few sharks approached, they were the most aggressive and least attractive girls in the place. After a few minutes, I noticed a girl who sparked my interest. She was 5'6" or so, thin with long brown hair and natural 34c's. She said she was from Greece. Signs of the economic times? I'd say she was a solid 8. We chatted for a few minutes, mostly small talk, and she asked if I wanted to go to a room. I accepted, of course. In the room she explained the routine. The standard half-hour is 50 Euros or it is 100 Euros for an hour. CIM is 50 more. Anal is 100 more. The best part is that there was a sign on the back of the door, illustrated with rather amusing pictures, which also described the price structure. I love this country.
Back to the action, I agreed to the standard half hour to start. She asked me if I wanted a condom for the BJ and I said no. So she started with a great BBBJ. About this time I was really glad I had that quickie in the RLD, otherwise I would have been out a quick 100 Euros since I would have blown in her mouth for sure! After a while she asked if I was ready and I said sure. She rode me cowgirl for a while before we switched to doggie to finish up. The service was good with some LFK and she smiled a lot and had a great attitude. I was pleasantly surprised and I felt like I got my money's worth. She followed me to my locker where I got my cash and handed her the 50 Euros. No fuss, no muss.
I hit the showers and was hoping for dinner but I realized that the free buffet had not started yet. It's in the evening, can't remember the exact hours. So I got another coke and decided to sit in one of the hidden alcoves near the hot tub to recover for a while. I was starving and a bit tired from the flight, but I figured I was ready and I went back to the main room to check out the scenery. I came across a stunner, in my book at least. She was tall, at least 5'9" and said she was Hungarian. She had a definite model-type body with super-perky but small 34a's and a really tight body. After a chat we headed to the room. She was pretty easy going, I later found out that lots of girls in this place try to get you to commit to extra time or extra services up front. She asked what I wanted and when I said "let's just see how it goes" she responded by shoving my dick in her mouth and starting a nice sloppy BBBJ. Nice girl. We moved on to sex in various positions and, while she was crazy hot, she was only ok in the sack. Maybe we just weren't compatible or something. So I decided to spring for the CIM option. I asked her and she readily agreed, so we went back to the bbbjtcim, which was great. Total damage was 100 Euros. Not cheap, but it's something that's hard to find for that price here in the US, at least with someone you'd want that kind of contact with.
I was kind of spent. That was three pops so far this afternoon after an overnight flight. I decided to shower again and then hit the buffet for some refreshment. It was open now. The options were basic: pasta, meat, potatoes, some other side dishes and some desserts. It wasn't the best meal I've ever had but it was decent enough and it was free. After dinner I went back into one of the alcoves around the hot tub to digest my meal and recover for a bit. I actually took a small nap, which was much-needed.
After my meal I noticed something strange. All of the girls, who had been nude when I arrived, were now wearing dresses. Mostly they were somewhat revealing dresses, but dresses nonetheless. I found out that one night a week the girls do wear either dresses and another night they wear lingerie. I forget which night of the week this was, (sorry) but I'm only mentioning it so you can plan accordingly. For me the big draw of the FKK scene is that the girls are nude and you can really, really see what you're about to pay for. This bit me in the ass (so to speak) later on.
Anyway, after my nap, I was laying there in something of a haze and a rather exotic-looking little spinner comes up and straddles me. Her hands immediately go under my towel, and after a bit of fondling she leans over and starts with some great DFK. Most of the other girls here reserved the kissing for the room, and even then it was light. But she was good, and persistent. She said she was Egyptian and she was slim but with great curves, soft natural see-cups and long dark hair. I told her I was resting but she just kept going at it. She was a great kisser and so I figured what the heck. We went to a smaller room, one that is adjacent to the hot tub and only separated by a curtain. She did go for the upsell but I stayed firm on the 30-minute basic session. She was a great time, lots of kissing and she had big, soft lips that felt great during BBBJ. We finished in cowgirl and I gave her 50 Euros. After catching up on reading the posts here I figure she was just another Romanian, but I guess I got lucky since the service was genuinely good and she was a great kisser.
I thought about calling it a night, but after another shower, a diet coke and a rest, I let my little head take over. A slim blonde approached me at the bar. I hadn't had a blonde yet. Anyway she looked good, so I agreed to hit the room. She was probably 5'6 and said she was from Moldova. The problem came when we got into the room and she took off that damn dress, I was fooled. She had implants, which I hate. Really hate. But, since she had already started the BBBJ before she took the dress off, I was committed to the session. She also had something of an attitude, she was a bit pushy about doing a longer session or cim, which I wasn't into since frankly I wasn't all that attracted to her. To be fair her BBBJ was decent. After that we switched to doggie so I wouldn't have to look at the implants (she did have a killer ass and her body was amazing save for the silicone). Paid the 50 Euros, took yet another shower and I took the train back to the Hauptbahnhoff and got to bed fairly early. So that makes five girls on my first day in town.
I tried another few FKK clubs on what was really an extended layover on my way to India and also hit the RLD a few times.
On my return trip I stopped in again. Palace is easy to get to and I wanted to see it on an evening without the dresses. There were actually fewer girls this time, at least when I arrived. But it may have been deceptive since many were in the smoking lounge, and I don't smoke. I spotted a girl I wanted almost right away though. She was the girl discussed below, Nika. I ended up paying 100 Euros for decent, if businesslike, service. Strangely her BBBJ was great to start but after we fucked for a bit and I decided to pay extra for the CIM, it was much worse. YMMV.
I took a break, spent time in the sauna, took a shower and headed once more into the breach. This time I found a curvy Romanian, very sexy and she performed well in the lounge with dfk and adequate roaming. She was one of the more aggressive (in a good way) girls I met at Palace, offered DFK without my asking, etc. She didn't disappoint in the room and encouraged some DATY before we got into BBBJ and then finished in doggie.
I decided to bail out after that session. I had already had three girls today (one previously in the RLD) , and went over budget on the German chick so I was feeling a bit strapped for cash. I decided my leftover cash would take me further in the RLD. On my first stopover at the RLD I had found this really hot Romanian, I was hoping to find her again before I left for home.
I took the train back and hit the RLD to finish out my second layover in Frankfurt. Alas I didn't find the girl I was looking for, but God I can't wait to return.
There are a lot of folks on here with more FKK experience, but my quick rankings of the three FKK clubs I visited are as follows:
Facilities (in wintertime, I didn't compare outdoor areas) :
1. Mainhatten.
2. Palace.
3. Oase.
Quality of girls (attractiveness and variety) :
1. Palace.
2. Oase.
3. Mainhatten.
Quality of service:
1. Oase.
2. Mainhatten.
3. Palace.
Convenience (getting there without a car) :
1. Mainhatten.
2. Palace.
3. Oase.
I don't know if a lot of you guys also go to the RLD, but it's interesting to note that two of the most attractive girls I found were in the RLD. Both were young Romanians and charged 20 Eurosfor 20 minutes of CBJ and multiple positions. Perhaps for 50 I could have gotten enough extras to make it more competitive with the FKK girls, however there is no comparison in terms of atmosphere. Still, it's great to have options!
I've heard about this girl with the extra hole, how is that possible? Maybe I just need to see it myself.You won't believe it before you see it, but fortunately another member Tommyh80 can verify this. It looks like she is torn up behind (sorry if this makes you loose your sex-appetite!) and the sight was enough for me to loose a good erection. I didn't cum, and recovered from the shock first 3-4 hours later when I tried to take another chick. Oh, and I almost forgot: when I was settled at the bar, shortly after this horrible session with Chanel, she actually came onto me again and asked me my name and where I came from. IT'S TRUE! She had forgotten that she was in the room with me, just a couple of hours earlier. That's why I said in my report that she was on another planet, and clearly a girl to AVOID, or maybe my performance was forgettable?
The 5'9" Hungarian sounds like Gitta.
The "Egyptian" spinner sounds like Angelina.
I don't have any guesses about the rest of them.
Lubriderm69
05-23-12, 05:03
Can anyone name a german blonde with lots of tattoos and one big tattoo that says "Lucky" around her upper chest / neck that works at Palace FKK? Had a great session with her two summers ago.
Paulie9798
05-23-12, 19:49
Hi,
Sorry if this is silly question.
Does Palace allow a "day pass" or in and out policy?
I am staying at nearby hotel, would like to go for morning session, rest at hotel, then return at night.
Appreciate any inputs.
Goodtime Man
05-24-12, 03:28
Hi,
Sorry if this is silly question.
Does Palace allow a "day pass" or in and out policy?
I am staying at nearby hotel, would like to go for morning session, rest at hotel, then return at night.
Appreciate any inputs.Yes, you can leave and return. You may need to keep your wrist band on though.
Hessen Bub
05-24-12, 14:04
You may need to keep your wrist band on though.You have to show your I'd or passport. They will take down you name (maybe I'd or passport number) on a piece of paper, put Palace's stamp, date and signature on there. You leave you wrist band there. You empty your locker. So you can decide if you want to return or not.
HB
You have to show your I'd or passport. They will take down you name (maybe I'd or passport number) on a piece of paper, put Palace's stamp, date and signature on there. You leave you wrist band there. You empty your locker. So you can decide if you want to return or not.
HBIs this a new rule? I leaved Palace one night last summer for some hours, and have no question about name / I'd. I told the crew that I should come back, and they give me some paper with the correct date, and I keeped my wrist band on. Absolutely no problem when I returned.
J
SinjinSwift
05-25-12, 06:56
Must be her.
Thin, long dark hair.
Thanks for the info.
Might try her next month when I'll be back at Palace.
Ciao.
KiminoSo I went to the Palace on Monday, as I had a big layover on a flight to Amsterdam. I had come to really like the Palace, and with the help of this forum I had a lot of great times. This time I was hanging out and relaxing when I was approached by a tall, thin German girl with tattoos on her arms and a pierced nipple (her right one). I think she said her name was Alexandra, or something similar. I had talked with her before on my previous visits. She was nice, friendly, very attractive, etc.
When she approached me, I made sure to ask about what she did and did not do. She said she didn't kiss. That was a deal breaker for me, so we didn't get together. The club was slow, as it was about 2pm in the afternoon. She had no business, and was just laying around. She approached me again, and I said that no kissing was a deal breaker.
She said "If I kiss can we go to room now". I of course accepted and we went back for a 50euro session.
It was awful. She started with a nice blowjob and it was all downhill from there. She allowed one small quick kiss and then nothing, complained about changing positions, wanted doggie which is not my preference, complained when I went to lick her pussy. And her pussy was not fresh smelling.
Ugh! I finished in doggie but afterwards I was kicking myself for not just stopping the session after she refused to kiss. I tried to complain to the woman at the desk but she was clueless, or perhaps just lacked a good command of English.
In any case, I now feel that this ***** ripped me off. Thank goodness it was only 50e.
She gives a good blowjob, that's the only good thing I can say.
". I of course accepted and we went back for a 50euro session.
It was awful. She started with a nice blowjob and it was all downhill from there. She allowed one small quick kiss and then nothing, complained about changing positions, wanted doggie which is not my preference, complained when I went to lick her pussy.thanks for the info.
I would have chosen her for sure on my next trip.
The other one I had in mind was a very tall blonde that danced at the pole, so sexy. But I really didn't have enough energy. Ahahah.
Kimino
Hi everyone.
I really need an advice.
I'll be in Frankfurt in June but didn't decided which FKK I will visit, The Palace or The Mainhattan. In your messages I could understand that at Palace the ambiance is quit better but the girls requires extras all the times and I don't like that at all. This makes them a kind of robot and very mechanical.
At Mainhattan girls seems to be more interesting, but does them requires extras also for every session? And, can anyone tells how many girls are avaible during the day at Palace & Mainhattan?
Thanks
A man was reading his kindle or ipad in the lounge area by the upper bar. The blond bar lady saw him and went over to check the capabilities of the kindle / ipad and eventually the man went to put his ipad or kindle away. This is forbiddenThe last time I was at the palace I saw two people reading on tablets in the reading alcove by the pool. Is this a new rule. If so, are any tablets allowed? Is the rule based on camera enabled tablets? I usually bring a book but I would prefer to bring my tablet.
Hessen Bub
05-27-12, 08:48
I've used my ipad- at Palace. No issues, because no camera. But that was months ago. Devices with camera are not allowed.
HB
I've used my ipad- at Palace. No issues, because no camera. But that was months ago. Devices with camera are not allowed.
HBGood to know.
I'm also stuck with the ipad1 (no camera) and I was wondering if it was possible to take it inside Palace.
On my last visit I was writing a note on my iphone, something like: "Janita, bulg. 30min, GFE, recomm / repeat" :)
And I was blocked by a guy (politely) that told me to use phones only at the entrance.
Kimino
I've used my ipad- at Palace. No issues, because no camera. But that was months ago. Devices with camera are not allowed.
HBThanks HB. Looks like I am stuck with old school books. How crazy is it that I have no mobile device without a camera. Just crazy to think about how far technology has come.
Hessen Bub
05-29-12, 13:00
How crazy is it that I have no mobile device without a camera. Just crazy to think about how far technology has come.Just think about how many crazy guys are out there trying to take pictures of male and female guests in FKKs. You don't want your picture taken in there, do you?
HB
The club is located in an industrial area with a few nearby hotels. It can be accessed by taking a Ubahn train from the main train station and then a short walk. Most taxi drivers know of the place since they pay them a 10E commission (but this does not affect your price.
As you enter they have information on the club in several languages. Entry is 75 Euros (probably the most expensive of all the FKK clubs around Frankfurt). Every 30 minutes of service is 50 Euros. Take care to discuss what a girl does and if she includes the service before going to the room. Example Deep French kissing or oral without a condom (BBBJ). While these things should and mostly are standard some women will ask for more money for kissing and some will use a condom for everything.
Once you are buzzed in from the security gate, you'll pay your 75E, then be given an arm band which is your receipt, plus a locker key which doubles as a key for the security locker. Note: You keep you money, wallet, passport and valuables in a smaller numbered locker to the right as you enter. Then go to the left to the locker room. The lockers also include a safe for larger items if needed. Showers, slippers and towels are all located as you enter the locker room.
As you enter to the direct left if a bar (drinks are included (except alcohol) , to the left of that bar is the restaurant (food is included). On the right side after the security lockers is the entrance to the main contact area. As you enter the main room to the left is the Kino (porno theater). To the right is a glass room this is a smoking room. There are two smoking rooms in the club. Make sure if you smoke do it in one of these rooms. Directly straight ahead and up a few steps is the main bar, also the stage where girls often dance. Behind the bar is a large whirlpool (Jacuzzi). If you need some rest there are 3 lawn chairs behind some glass panels to the left of the whirlpool where you can sleep. To the right as you enter past the smoking room are the private rooms. (Don't enter these unless with a girl). There is massage, reading areas etc. Also located in these back areas.
Food changes from breakfast to dinner at set times, usually 5-6pm dinner is served. Its a buffet style help yourself. In Germany you're required to bus your own table once done, so remember to put your tray and dishes in the rack when done.
Service should include the standard 30 minutes for 50 Euros (paid at your security locker after service). Kissing, BBBJ and multiple positions is standard. Anal depends on the girl and ranges from 50-150 Euros extra.
I found this website For pictures and locations of the palace.
http://germany.adultsearch.com/frankfurt/632
Just think about how many crazy guys are out there trying to take pictures of male and female guests in FKKs. You don't want your picture taken in there, do you?
HBI think you misunderstood. I was just pointing out that it is wild that I have no device without a camera. It used to be a luxury to have a camera on your phone. Now even the cheapest phones or tablets have a camera.
I fully understand the no camera policy.
Hessen Bub
05-31-12, 22:39
they could provide some mind of seal to lut on the lense that breaks if you peel it of. but. top much hassle.
hb
This is my first visit to a FKK club. It was indeed eye-opening. The best part is you get to see the goods before making a deal. Thanks to the invaluable advice on this forum, I advoided some of the pitfalls.
I arrived at Palace at 11. 30 am in the morning two weeks ago. May be it was early, not many girls around. Changed into a bath robe and wandered around a bit, had a drink from the bar, and was approached by a lady with firm body from Italy. Wasn't interested and continued to lie on the couch in the main area. Soon was pastered by two Polish ladies (one blonde and one with ginger hair) for a threesome. Initially agreed to take the ginger-hair girl because of her natural breast, but she said I must shower first. After the shower, I changed my mind and opted for the blonde. She refused saying that I chosen her friend first. Oh well! Then I spotted Grabriella, another blonde with slight build but a nice and firm breast. She said she is German. Asked her for half hour and went into the room. Started with BBBJ, DATY, and sex with different positions. She was very accommodating and had a GFE. 50 euro is definite worth it. Would repeat if I visit Palace again.
Took a shower, had lunch at the restaurant and saw Elena, a Romanian, probably the most beautiful lady at the time. Came out from the restaurant and went to the sauna. Came out refreshed and time for a second round. Elena walked past and asked if I want to go to the room. I said yes. She was business-like, carried out the routine: BBBJ, and sex with CG, missionary and diggie. Asked for DATY but she said it's 50 euros extra. I said forget it. Would I repeat, probably not.
Now I was really tired. Went for a nap in the alcove near the jacuzzi. Woke up at around 3 pm. Got a drink and had some desserts at the restaurant. Now more girls arrived. Approached by a number of them. A Greek, Russian, and then Katherina who is Bulgarian. Didn't feel like it at first but she chatted with me for a while and sort of got me interested. We went to action. Because of the previous two rounds, it took me quite a while before I can come again. I must have pounded her in different positions for some twenty minutes with her moaning aloud (sounded fake) before I offloaded into her. Overall quite satisfying. May repeat with her because of her friendliness.
I finished the day with a half-hour massage. Total cost for the day 255 euros for 6 hours of fun. May visit other FKKs next time when in town.
Eddy
Member #4243
06-10-12, 19:47
Can someone give me a definitive and accurate idea of how likely they think palace girls would provide kissing, BBBJ, etc all the standard sevices if you were to treat them to an hour in room for 100 rather than a short 50 session. What I am getting at is if the longer session would make the girls feel more relaxed hence encouraging them to provide kissing etc OR would they even then still try to up sell for kissing etc even if an hour were booked? I hope that makes sense many thanks.
Can someone give me a definitive and accurate idea of how likely they think palace girls would provide kissing, BBBJ, etc all the standard sevices if you were to treat them to an hour in room for 100 rather than a short 50 session. What I am getting at is if the longer session would make the girls feel more relaxed hence encouraging them to provide kissing etc OR would they even then still try to up sell for kissing etc even if an hour were booked? I hope that makes sense many thanks.I have experienced girls who don't want DATY unless you are going an hour, as they don't want the session to really use the whole 30 mins, but I think kissing is more so, that either they are willing regardless of time, or want to upsell for kissing, charging 50 extra. Some girls will kiss anybody, others are going to be concerned about bad breath. Kissing and breathing on each other's face is a dangerous activity for picking up viruses, so some girls do not kiss. Full stop. Possibly a small percentage of girls will throw in kissing, if go an hour.
Many Palace girls are seriously turned off by 30 min bookings unless they actually go only 15 mins. Reason is wait time for room, and time taken to get another customer. If all the customers only want to pay 50, they are not making good money unless get in a very large number of 50 sessions. The price has been 50 for years now, so inflation has been degrading what they make, and they don't like it. When a superior girl can get a guy to go for several hours, she is happy as starts to make good and easy money, probably not working too hard.
I rarely do 50 Euro sessions, so some girls tend to like me (my money) , while others think I am too much hard work, due taking too long to cum.
Initially agreed to take the ginger-hair girl because of her natural breast, but she said I must shower first.Of course you must shower first! Girls don't tell me to shower, because I have already showered and smell nice. If I get sweaty after a period of time, I take another shower, and always shower in between sessions. If the girl tells you to take a shower, then either she saw that you didn't on arrival, or she thinks you smell bad.
Its very hard to understand why some guys like to argue with the girl about taking a shower, claiming they are already clean or took a shower at home, when the girl clearly thinks they smell bad or are obviously not clean. Maybe in some cultures of the world, showering is infrequent, but not acceptable in an FKK.
BTW, infrequent showering helps bacteria breed in armpit pores, causing body odour. When I haven't showered for too long, I can smell my own stink. Some guys cannot smell it, even when its there. I make effort to clean my teeth and tongue thoroughly too, to avoid mouth odours.
One German regular at the club, is sometimes known as Mr. Smelly (by certain girls who avoid him) as he doesn't shower often / well enough.
I'll be there tomorrow, and probably on the 14th so I checked out the site.
There's a message saying the free beer thing. Maybe it was there since a long time but didn't notice.
Bye.
Kimino
WorkTravel80
06-13-12, 20:28
Hello everyone. Have been to the Palace 4-5 times. And have NEVER left that place unhappy. Its a great place with a lot of stunning girls from different countries. Last time I was there I tried this spanish MILF. She had fake tits, not a 9 or a 10 but very passionate in bed. A lot of cuddling and DFK. A real GFE. But I cannot remember her name. Also tried out Maggie from Bulgaria. She looks like a gypsie, short, and kind of dark. I find her attractive and cute. Had big fake tits. I also tried a venezuelan girl, not that good. But she had an amazing ass.
Each time I am in the Palace, and I see Gina from chech I think about a session with her. In my eyes she's a 10. Her body is perfeckt, her ass is so sexy. And last time I visited the Palace she was almost always busy with a customer. The only thing that always stops me from try her out, is that she is somehow bitchy or am I wrong? How is she in bed? This time I just "have" to try her out. She has a bady to die for. Even her face is nice. But how is her service? (1 hour session) I would really appreciate some help.
Thank you.
Norwegian 90
Hessen Bub
06-13-12, 21:49
Gina from Czech Republic is a solid session (PSE) without too many illusions.
HB
Each time I am in the Palace, and I see Gina from chech I think about a session with her. In my eyes she's a 10. Her body is perfeckt, her ass is so sexy. And last time I visited the Palace she was almost always busy with a customer. The only thing that always stops me from try her out, is that she is somehow bitchy or am I wrong? How is she in bed? This time I just "have" to try her out. She has a bady to die for. Even her face is nice. But how is her service? (1 hour session) I would really appreciate some help.There are different opinions about Gina. First of all I have never tried her, due to the same reasons that you have displayed. She felt extremely bitchy, and I even have an advantage of a limited vocabulary in Czech language. One of the Italian guests that I spoke with just confirmed my impression. He said she was a typical optifick, but was not engaged in the bed. Like HB said, she gives you a PSE, not GFE! But as I said, different opinions and it all depends on what you want. I don't agree about her being a 10, but then again blondes are not my game!
WorkTravel80
06-13-12, 23:27
Oki. Thank you, both of you, HB and Sucker17. Ill be visiting the Palace, this firstcoming Monday. Will arrive around 17. 00-18. 00. And Ill be back Friday the same week. That Friday I will be arriving very early. I like the relaxed atmosphere. Sucker17, actually I speak good spanish so I am able to lurke out "fake" spanish girls. Of course not ALL romanians are bitchy. And you can find alot of them in the Palace. So therefore you can find both nice and bitchy girls there. Last time I talked to at least 2 Romanian girls, but never sessioned with them. But they vere both friendly and good looking As I am a fan of latinas I always try to find one "favorite" latina for the night. I also like eastern european girls. In my last visit, I actually met a girl from China. First time I have seen an asian chick over there. But on this Fkk trip to Frankfurt, for sure I am going to session with Gina. Start with 30 minutes, and if I like her, extend to o ne hour or (two) , hehe.
I just want to recommend two chicks while I am online.
Isabela, from Alicante. She is 27 or 28 years old, but looks younger. She is a blond spanish girl, with fake tits. And white skin. I remember I was sitting and checking out some girls. I invited her to sit down next to me. When I found out that she was spanish, we startet to communicate in spanish. And what a cute girl, both her personality and her look. I asked her if she kissed or no in the 30 minutes session. And she said "si". So I wanted to try one kiss. We started some DFK. Which was very nice. And continued in the kino. And off we went to a "zimmer". We fucked in mpos, and I put a finger in her asshole when banging her in doggie. Seemed to enjoy it. All in all a very enjoyble session. One of the best sessions I have had actually.
Next one that I want to recommend is bulgarian Yanita. I have seen that she has been mentioned here before, but just want to mention her again. This girl is a mix between a PSE and a GFE. Though more PSE than GFE I must admit. The girl is probably 25 years old. She has blond hair, nice coloured skin. Quite petite. With some nice silocone tits. And her stomach is really fit and sexy too. With a piercing. It was so nice to pound her in doggie. And she gave me some "babyoil" for her titties. A nice feeling, rubb, lick and suck them. Would really recomend this one too. I actually didn't think she was going to kiss me, since we just went for 30 minutes. But she gave me some LFk
Norwegian90
Just came back from a very nice visit at Palace.
Arrived around 5pm, I forced myself not to arrive earlier although I had nothing to do in Frankfurt and the weather was real bad.
Paid my 75, took a robe, showered and was ready for the party.
Dessous tag day but not very different from my last visit, in a different day.
There was already a lot of girls around and quite a few customers, had a gin tonic at the bar (the computer is now working) and stayed there to look around. Was approached by the fake egyptian and bounced her back, later on I also saw the girl that someone mentioned with Chinese tatoo on her back, also bounced.
Anyway, after about 30 minutes of looking around and some girls coming up to say hi I spotted a nice ass looking at me from a sofa. The girl standed up and there she was, Janita.
I had a super 30 min session with her last time, so after chatting about her new haircut etc etc and laughing a bit I took her to a room and told her we should do an hour. Exquisite session. Janita is both hot and sweet. Kisses and everithing. Asked for anal but she refused, although she was thinking about it. I think I could have talked her into it, maybe. Ended with cim. We went a bit over one hour but she only charged me for 60min + cim. Will repeat. Recommended.
Asked her if we could make a threesome with Astrid (aka Reny) tomorrow. They are friends so she was happy about it. But then things went differently.
Shower, another gin tonic, took a look at the football game around the pool. Then Reny showed up, and that's where the story went differently. Reny has a very big butt nowadays, but I've been with her many times and she is always great.
So we went to a room.
Astrid, Bulgarian, gigantic tatoo on her back, big butt. 30min cim.
"italian" food day. Meaning there was some almost decent pasta and a bunch of other things. Ate well. The restaurant was quite full so I had some difficulties to find a free place.
Coffee, a whiskey and layed down to see the end of the first match. Girls kept coming up all day, without being too pushy but doing their job.
One of them really intrigued me.
Isabella, Romanian, near Transylvania, she said.
Black long hair, aggressive makeup, meaning that her look was aggressive because of the make up. Blue / green eyes. We clicked immediately while talking. Real fun girl to talk to and, I repeat, intriguing person.
She has a non finished tatoo on the side of her ass.
We ended up in the room and had fun. 1hr but I really couldn't come. Although she tryed very hard.
That should have been it for the day. Planning to chillout a bit, looking at the girls dancing e bla bla bla.
Then, Natalia appeared.
Russian, been here since a week, also tryed one day at Mainhattan but then left.
Petite, blonde, fantastic blue eyes. Looks embarassingly young but is probably in early twenties. Fantastic proportioned body, small ass. A fucking alien! For my tastes, the cutest in the house.
Initially I bounced her because I thought I could never make it, after 3 minutes I was walking around the club looking for her. :)
I told her we would do an hour. I started with DATY and she told me that was an extra, I'm kind of convinced she was joking because we were talking about this thing of some girls inventing extras sometimes, anyway I started laughing told her to fuckoff and kept giving her DATY, she enjoyed very much and didn't charge. We did 1hr with cim. Absolutely a great session, she can be real Pse as her look is really sexy, still a very sweet girl. Recommended.
Except Astrid, all the girls proposed (more or less directly) the 1hr session. I had already decided for that so no problem. All kissed, all had DATY, none tryed to upsell anything.
Around midnight I left after paying 45 euro for the drinks. I wish we had a bar service like this at Artemis.
One thing, I noticed a girl, bulgarian, short or mid dark hair. A tatoo on one arm I think. Nice body. She dances at the pole very well and I find her very sexy. Anyone recognizes her from this short description and knows something about her?
I'll be back at Palace tomorrow. It's dj night which means there's going o be a Dj putting up music, I guess.
Wingman flying in tomorrow, so it's going to be a rough evening. :)
Kimino
Member #4285
06-14-12, 00:58
Just came back from a very nice visit at Palace.Hallo, I have been reading your posts for some while and I must say you and me have som things common. For an example, I love the lingerie days and always try to get to a FKK when they have it. It would be fun to meet up and have some one to talk to between the sessions. I am passing by Frankfurt on the 19:th July, thats a lingerie day. Let me know if you will be there.
Yanita / Janita is a favorit in Palace. I think I have a little crush on her. She is so sweet and a real mix between a girlfriend and a pornstar as mentioned in Norwegian90s post.
Best regards
I am passing by Frankfurt on the 19:th July, thats a lingerie day. Let me know if you willCiao Kid Icarus, sure I will let you know.
It's going to be very improbable I will be able to make another trip very soon and I would like to go to Berlin next time, maybe beginning of sept. Really don't know but lets keep in touch.
Have a nice day.
Kimino
Each time I am in the Palace, and I see Gina from chech I think about a session with her. In my eyes she's a 10. Her body is perfeckt, her ass is so sexy.
Norwegian 90Its lucky we don't all have precisely the same taste. I met her in her fat days and the silicones didn't help. To me she was a 5 to 6 back then and face wasn't quite my spec either. Okay her figure has improved a lot with the weight loss, but still many better figures for a guy who likes Gazelles, rather than Buffaloes. I do understand that to a guy who likes voluptuous and doesn't mind bolt-ons, she could look really hot. Fortunately there is a lot of variety.
Its lucky we don't all have precisely the same taste. I met her in her fat days and the silicones didn't help. To me she was a 5 to 6 back then and face wasn't quite my spec either. Okay her figure has improved a lot with the weight loss, but still many better figures for a guy who likes Gazelles, rather than Buffaloes. I do understand that to a guy who likes voluptuous and doesn't mind bolt-ons, she could look really hot. Fortunately there is a lot of variety.Yeah totally agree, I mean if I wanted to fuck a nice looking girl with a bitchy attitude, I would just fuck my ex-wife! But then again, she has proven to be much more expensive than 50 euros!
WorkTravel80
06-14-12, 17:53
Haha, I didn't knew that Gina was fat before. When did she lose that much weight? I lost my Fkk virginity in June 2011. So I haven't seen Gina "fat". Couldn't imagine that girl fat. She isn't thin, but I don't like very thin girls either. She has really nice curves I think. And I do not mind bolt ons at all. Because in my country silicone is not that commom amung girls. So it kind of turns me on to see that. And yes I really like her face, she is cute and dirty at the same time. I also remember to have read that some person was doing her in doggy, and smelled something bad from her ass / pussy. Maybe I should try out another optifuck instead. (LIke Kiara). Kiara looks awsome as well. Actually she reminds me of a friend of mine.
Nice meeting Rocketboy at Palace tonight. Had fun chatting between sessios, as usual!
A very slow night. Full of girls but very few customers. Some arrived quite late. Paradise!
The girl I was asking about yesterday is called Mirella, told me is Serb. Short curly hair, good pole dancer. Hangs around with Joy, Astrid, Yanita. She is probably quite popular at Palace.
Anyways, a fun girl. Totally PSE, at least with me. Very, very good BJ.
She tryed the "how much you want to spend?" line (once we were in the room) , but I quickly talked out of that bs. Did one hour, good sex, said I should try her when she drinks (alcohol).
Recommended.
Milena, from Moscow.
Long dark hair, not very well shaped tits, her only defect.
Very hot, non GFE. Deep kissing all time. In general very active.
Decided for one hour, then asked and had anal. At the end we did just a bit over 30 min so she only charged 150. Good girl.
Recommended.
Svetlana, yet another Russian. Dark hair, strong red lipstick, blue eyes, very sexy face and attitude. Pse.
30min + cim. Recommended.
A very positive 2 days trip. Only had very good sessions. I'm a bit amazed by the fact that none of the girls I went with were german, and so many were Russian. But it makes no difference.
I go back home with another very positive impression of Palace. Sad it was so short. Ahahah.
Kimino
Yeah totally agree, I mean if I wanted to fuck a nice looking girl with a bitchy attitude, I would just fuck my ex-wife! But then again, she has proven to be much more expensive than 50 euros!Touche! I can identify. I have a quite pretty GF with good body (better than many Palace girls), exquisite pussy, and even her bolt-ons are reasonably nice - just a little too big (I preferred her original smaller ones). The sex is really nice, but lacking in duration and frequency. She costs me more than 50 Euros on a per fuck basis even though I am not paying for the fuck. As a sex addict, I have to suppliment the action supply. Sex outsourcing on a pay as you go basis seems very viable. If only the GF was a sex addict like me. She appears to really like it, going quite wild, but tires easily. No stamina.
Hey guys just a quick question in Palace you can get massages aswell can't You? And if you can do they do extras such as Handjobs etc?
Hey guys,
Just a quick question in Palace they do massages as well don't they? And if they do can you get extras aswell / such as handjobs etc? Would be greatfull for a answer as I am thinking about goin there on my next trip to Frankfurt.
Hey guys,
Just a quick question in Palace they do massages as well don't they? And if they do can you get extras aswell / such as handjobs etc? Would be greatfull for a answer as I am thinking about goin there on my next trip to Frankfurt.Professional massage: This takes place in a separate area by fully dressed trained middleaged masseuses. While a professional massage is very relaxing, a great feel-good experience and highly recommended, HJs and other sexual activities are strictly forbidden by the professional masseuses at Palace and all other major FKK clubs I am aware of (only exception I know of is Sandra at Bernd's, where a lot of extras are included in the standard fee).
Massage by the working girls: I doubt you will find any SP who would refuse giving a massage as part of the erotic play. Two clear warnings from me though:
- A massage is NOT considered an extra and should be included in the standard fee of 50E / 30 mnts (as other services as BBBJ / DFK / DATY). Unfortuneately, some girls, in particular at Palace, will ask extra payment for a massage. Just remember to clear this up in advance, and be firm about saying no to paying extra.
- IME very few girls are able to provide high quality professional or erotic massage. I have been disappointed so many times I never ask for a massage by a girl any more, even when offered. There are a few exceptions out there though (like Oanna at Oase).
If you are really into the massage / erotic play combo thing, then you are better off trying out some of Frankfurt's better massage parlours (Pam's, Kaskade, and others; see the Frankfurt thread for recommendations). This is a fully nude massage, and the professional massage very soon turn into an erotic tease, mutual touching is permitted (and encouraged) , and a final release is given by a HJ or Spanish (coming between her tits) , often in combination with prostata stimulation. In a MP DATY is quite common, BBBJ sometimes offered, DFK rare but not impossible, and FS usually forbidden (which is why I prefer visiting Oanna at Oase in stead). However, be aware that you will be having severe difficulties finding stunners (8- 10) at the MP, while you will find many at the major FKKs. The fee is also slightly higher.
Hope some of this was helpful. And most certainly, I would happy to read a few suggestions about girls at Palace who is great about the massage / erotic play combo (without asking for extra payment).
S16
My second day of this 9 day tour is reported here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1293729&posted=1#post1293729
My third day was to be a rest day with an organized tour to Baden-Baden and the Black Forest, with a side trip to Strasbourg, France. Due to the rainy weather the trip was a bit of a dud. Also, as we returned to Frankfurt we got caught in the pre-holiday traffic jam as the next day was a holiday. Because I wasn't entirely happy with my day and felt adventurous again, I decided to head for Palace after I got to my hotel.
Day 3 Palace 9:15 PM. 01:30 AM.
I had been anxious to return to Palace to see the renovations that had taken place since my last year's visit. My first impression was that I did not like what I saw. With a dark blue theme replacing the red theme the place was darker than I remembered and there appeared to be not as many places to sit and rest between sessions. In hind sight, there are probably just as many seats, it is just the lay out that has changed.
What hasn't changed is the aggressiveness of the ladies. Like Mainhatten and Oase the previous days there were a large number of ladies in the early going and not that many men. I was quite shocked at the lack of men due to the late hour of my arrival. But that did mean no wait times for zimmers and plenty of ladies to choose from. And the ladies were on their game: I entered the main room and approached the bar. By the time I got there I had two ladies asking for a duo before I even had my drink! It almost seemed that this was the night of the duo as I was asked about 3 more times.
This was also Dessous Tag at Palace and at first I thought I had made an error in coming on that day. But again in the end I was enjoying the ladies in their choice of lingerie and even those who did not bother to cover up that much. There were so many girls and I did not seem to recognize anyone. I was approached by almost every girl there, or so it seemed, but they all were quite good when I told them I was waiting for someone, while I tried to make up my mind as to who would deliver the best service with the least up sell. I was noticing a trend on this trip: I was able to get 30 minute sessions with lots of kissing, no up sell and no comment on the request for CBJ, all with little effort on my part, even here in Palace, which is renowned for the up sell! I had been afraid to select the most beautiful girls, like Joy et al, figuring they would just naturally want more €€s. And while she may have, Anna did not!
Turns out I shouldn't have worried. I was eventually approached by Anna, Romanian, tall blonde with large, soft natural DDs that seemed to be poured into her bra. She claimed to remember me from last year! I was doubtful but did not object as I found her most attractive. So, in short order we were off to the zimmer. Her breasts were incredible and quite edible. It was one of the finer sessions, with lots of DFK, DATY. 69 and CBJ. She was just the turnaround I needed for this day and she made the club a little brighter for me. Cost: 50€ and no up sell.
I also saw my favourite Egyptian, (via Romania) Angelina, but not Nicoletta with her kinky hair and squeaky voice. Joy was a vision with big boobs and her long blonde hair braided and looking stunning in her bikini with white stockings. We actually had a pleasant chat in the smoker about how the best things in life always cost more. It took me a while but I finally recognized Saskia at the poker slots in the front lobby. She seemed to be having too much fun and I remembered a rebuke last year from another girl as she played, so I did not interrupt her.
Time rolled on and my confidence was gaining that I could select another quality lady for a good price. So my next selection was Karina from Lituania. She had short blonde hair and a magnificent pair of Ds. (I was noticing a bit of a trend here.) She did surprise me with the claim that she too knew me from before. I was now sure that this was just a sales tactic, except that she was able to list my favourite things to do in the zimmer! (Maybe she spoke with Anna?) So this would mean that I had entered the famous Palace, well known for it's sharks and the 50€ add-on, and come away with two classic sessions with beautiful ladies. How could I be happier?
In the zimmer, which was the usual ultra clean room compared to Oase, Karina just took off with the kissing, both DFK and body kissing, which of course leads to a lot of BLS and a spectacular CBJ. MPOS were on the menu, including but not restricted to CG, Doggy, Missionary in various variations such as the deck chair and folded deck chair. All the ladies I saw this trip who had great breasts were only too happy to have me dine on both and in-between. Often I was being smothered by boobs. Just the memory of those mammaries is too much. In the end I could see that this being my 7th session in 3 days I was going to have a little trouble finishing. Again, not to worry as Karina was able to supply the required 'extra' stimulus to help me through. And there was no extra charge for the extra effort on her part: 50€.
To date, the 3 days had had no chemical assistance and had gone off fairly easy. I could tell that without a day off, a mistake I now realized, I was going to need help.
Myr.
My 4th days report is here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1293831
This visit was preceded by a visit to Secret Service Massage Parlour, reported on the Frankfurt thread. A shot was taken there.
Day 8 Palace 4PM. 10PM.
In light of my waning performance I decided to go to Palace with chemical assistance. The train cost a mere 2, 50€ and I would return by taxi for 10€. Entrance still cost 65€.
Once inside I met another bevy of beautiful babes, including Natalie with long blonde hair over a dark base of hair and large DDs over a slightly protruding tummy. Joy was as usual there with her tattoo face on her left shoulder and wearing a plaid skirt. I observed her on one occasion take a man to the zimmer, passing the smoker and return in just over 10 minutes!
I also met: Angelic from Khalistan with short black hair, Ds and is a friend of Natalie; Alina of Poland with Cs, blonde wearing black bead necklace and garter with hose; Juliet of Poland another blonde with Bs and a blue bead necklace with black fishnets; Lola of Greece with Ds and a pink mesh body suit; Katie of Coratia, a light brown haired brunette parted in the middle and sporting a fine pair of Ds. She also has a tattoo of writing on her left waist. She had been seen leading a man back to the pay lockers and he did not look very happy.
Angelina of Egypt via Romania was again there. To her credit she claimed to remember me from my last trip. I guess she has not been that busy since. Others seen: Paulina of Slovenia, a MILF with Ds sporting a mesh top and black stockings; Rosealina, Romania bleach blond shoulder length with black mesh stockings; Imka short blonde hair, Cs and offered me her ass for 30 min, but I passed as she is a noted up seller; and Claudia, a friend of Joy's with blonde shoulder length hair and Cs wearing white mesh stockings.
Over the evening Paulina and Katie tried for a duo, while Angelina tried again. But in the end it was Natalie that won my €s. She gets two great big thumbs, and other body parts, up for a great performance. We started in the kino, where my FKK knot in my towel caused her a little trouble but in the end she got through. There was an incredible amount of BLS, DFK, a sloppy CBJ that she remembered to do from last time, with great Missionary and doggy positions. While on my back she would feed me her enormous boobs. She was quite patient with me and we ended with some nice chatting. 50€ + tip. I did not have the tip for her immediately so I had to wait a bit. When I next saw her I beckoned her over and discreetly gave it to her and she seemed quite pleased.
A final observation was that the internet terminal in the rear smoker appears to have been moved to the lounge area up by the jacuzzi.
Natalie had done her job under trying circumstances, but I left with a big smile on my face and just one more full day in paradise.
Myr.
I also met: Angelic from Khalistan with short black hairDo you mean "from Kazakhstan"? Former Miss Atlantis. It looks like she is the most loyal to Palace provider. She is there as long as know that club.
Do you mean "from Kazakhstan"? Former Miss Atlantis. It looks like she is the most loyal to Palace provider. She is there as long as know that club.Could well be, I'm not much on the 'stans.
M.
Hessen Bub
06-17-12, 18:28
Do you mean "from Kazakhstan"? Former Miss Atlantis. It looks like she is the most loyal to Palace provider. She is there as long as know that club.Angelique, Angelica is former Miss Atlantis and from Siberia (Omsk). Short hair, bolt-ons, often sits on the sofa between rooms #2 and #3 next to the cinema. First time I fucked her was in 2002, and yes, she is at Palace since the place opened.
HB
Hello everyone. Have been to the Palace 4-5 times. And have NEVER left that place unhappy. Its a great place with a lot of stunning girls from different countries. Last time I was there I tried this spanish MILF. She had fake tits, not a 9 or a 10 but very passionate in bed. A lot of cuddling and DFK. A real GFE. But I cannot remember her name. Also tried out Maggie from Bulgaria. She looks like a gypsie, short, and kind of dark. I find her attractive and cute. Had big fake tits. I also tried a venezuelan girl, not that good. But she had an amazing ass.
Each time I am in the Palace, and I see Gina from chech I think about a session with her. In my eyes she's a 10. Her body is perfeckt, her ass is so sexy. And last time I visited the Palace she was almost always busy with a customer. The only thing that always stops me from try her out, is that she is somehow bitchy or am I wrong? How is she in bed? This time I just "have" to try her out. She has a bady to die for. Even her face is nice. But how is her service? (1 hour session) I would really appreciate some help.
Thank you.
Norwegian 90As has been noted, Gina seems to be one of those girls that you either like or you don't. She happens to be one of my favorites at Palace. Why? Well, it's not because she's a PSE! I can't agree with that. You see, I'm big on the PSE and she just doesn't deliver on that count. At the same time, I wouldn't call her a GFE either! So, what is it about Gina that appeals to me?
Well, what I like about Gina is that I find her to be extremely attractive for one thing. To me she has "trophy wife" looks. I also liked it when she carried a little more weight. She has a nice ass now, but it was even better when it looked like a plump, round bubble (with one very pink butt hole hidden between the cheeks too!). And I don't get this thing about a "bitchy" personality! She's been nothing but pleasant with me. Sweet and kind even. We always have such a nice conversation before and after sex. She likes to cuddle. She never tries to hustle me (there are lots of sharks at Palace!). Last time she asked why I never bring her a gift like chocolates from the States. Maybe I should so she can put some more weight back on those buttocks cheeks haha!
No, I don't get the negative comments about her personality at all because she's never been that way with me once. Not one time has she ever shown me that side of her. But, the other thing I like about Gina is NO surprises. She's consistent. I know exactly what I'm going to get. She'll suck my dick real good and let me sperm all in her mouth. I can fuck her hard in several positions (love to make her body lurch in doggy) and enjoy multiple pops. And it's all good! Nothing to knock my socks off, but I know it won't be bad either. So, I'll usually kick my mongering activities off in Frankfurt with a 30 minute session with Gina. I find her to be pretty, PLEASANT, and no surprises. A good way to start a trip off by sticking with the familiar. And to get my hardcore PSE sessions, I head over to OASE! Anyway, this is what I like about Gina, who I would rate as average overall. Not outstanding, but not awful either. She's not for everybody obviously, but she "works" for me. Ultimately you have to decide for yourself.
Hessen Bub
06-18-12, 12:46
Hey, to each his own, no need to justify who you book. I did not click with Gina. I found her really attractive years ago in her first weeks at Palace, she was a lot fitter, slimmer (and younger).
HB
Hey, to each his own, no need to justify who you book. I did not click with Gina. I found her really attractive years ago in her first weeks at Palace, she was a lot fitter, slimmer (and younger).
HBI wasn't "justifying" anything. The man asked a question. A few answered. I had a different perspective, including about Gina's personality, and decided to give my own point of view. She's one at Palace who keeps coming up from time to time. People want to call her "bitchy". I don't agree. It's our money. In the end we do all screw who we want.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-19-12, 03:37
Day 8 Palace 4PM. 10PM.
In light of my waning performance I decided to go to Palace with chemical assistance. The train cost a mere 2, 50€ and I would return by taxi for 10€. Entrance still cost 65€.
Myr.Palace was Euro 75 when I went there in early 2011 and also the year before that. Is the Euro 65 above a typo or has the price been reduced? Checked on their web-site but could not find any mention of the entrance fee. Thanks.
Palace was Euro 75 when I went there in early 2011 and also the year before that. Is the Euro 65 above a typo or has the price been reduced? Checked on their web-site but could not find any mention of the entrance fee. Thanks.OOPS. My bad, you're quite correct: the entrance to Palace is still 75€!
Sorry for any confusion. Must talk to my editor.
M.
Rocketboy0
06-19-12, 12:38
Living in Berlin, Frankfurt visits are rare for me. Served as wingman to Col. Kimino and always good to see him. Not a whole lot to add other than every time I have been to The Palace, I leave impressed and happy. Was there Thurs-Sat last week, first time in well over a year. Can't believe how nice they've fixed it up. I don't go to FKKs for interior design but do appreciate it, especially compared to our more costly Berlin standard, Artemis, which specializes in what can only be described as Soviet chic. Palace just very comfortable to hang in, lots of attention to detail and some clever innovations like the quiet reading room, the isolated smoking lounge, all rooms really nicely done up, the pole dancing area where lots of girls are encouraged to dance and then you can chat with them immediately afterwards, with all the proximate round seating and table and chairs sprinkled about. Food well above average. Only real complaint on the infrastructure side is it could use better air circulation, especially in the kino area. Saw about 7 ex Artemis princesses and all said they were quite happy in the Rhein-Main gebiet.
K and I remarked how relatively empty the club was even after 11pm. 50 girls, maybe the same number of men, and these were peak nights. But the result was a very relaxed chilled out atmosphere, no waiting for rooms, and K and kept saying, regardless of why, we found it just great. Some really attractive choices-could have easily gone with 7-10 of them with more time (and a lot more funds), and I am fairly demanding on the looks front. No sharking, baracudda-ing, giant squidding-all just very pleasant, chatty, with the usual silly offers of dueling duos etc. But really done in a nice way and easily handled without any awkwardness on both sides. Why some mongers moan about this, K and I said to each other, we really don't get it. Could have been us, the weather, the celestial alignment, who knows, but the whole experience could not have been nicer or friendlier.
Sessions: Astrid (aka Remy ex Artms) now blond, (BU) , great performer, very responsive as always. Naturally busty blond Natalie (UKR) a great discovery, super accommodating and passionate, and highly recommended. Lela (DE) black or brunette hair-did not really click but she did try, and I was somewhat spent after earlier missions.
You locals have a good deal here. One of the best clubs around, IMHO . RB
June 8:
Arrived to Frankfurt airport around 8pm where I had a lay over before my morning flight to the US. I had decided to go directly to FKK Palace since it is closer than Oase and arrived there around 9pm. This is my first time at any FKK but with RFF and my experience elsewhere, I did not feel intimidates at all. Changed, took a shower, then sat at the bar observing the scene in amazement as the girls outnumbered the boys at least 3-1. I was approached by 2 girls who resembled the sharks everyone is talking about; the first girl is blond who claimed to be from Israel and the second a brunette from Bulgaria. They offered to show me the place and gave me a good tour including showing me a room and once inside, they started flashing their pussies and playing with my dick while explaining what they will do to each others and to me but I did not really like them, stood my ground, and went back to the bar area. I noticed from across the room a short blond that was very pretty so I waved her over; her name was Natalya from Russia and she was a doll. Natalya is new and has been in the Palace for 7 days and before hand was working in Tenerife but basically making money from Drinks. Went to the room, started Kissing, DATY for an extra 50 (was I sharked as DATY is usually included?) but was worth since her pussy was so fresh and pretty, and she proceeded with a CBJ. She was so inexperienced that she could not even get me hard so she ripped off the condom and proceeded with BBBJ and it worked and fucked passionately for a good 15 minutes till I came. Half hour for 100 Euro.
I was feeling somewhat overwhelmed by the session and the girl so I ordered a glass of wine and proceeded to lay down next to the computer and it is not 10 minutes till I was approached by Gabriela who claimed to be Spanish but I did not think so, I told that I had just finished a session and trying to relax but she kept going and got me hard with her teases so we proceeded to the room where she commenced BBBJ then sex in all position and she was complaining that I am not asking for any extra but her BJ skills are so good so I opted for CIM and she happily obliged. Half hour for 100 Euro.
She showed me the area where girls are not allowed so I ordered another glass of wine and went there to relax for an hour. Went back to the bar where I was approached by few girls not to my liking but an older girl for Dominican (the one with her picture in the bathroom) was very persistent and claimed to be a professional masseuse so we went back to the room. Good massage, BBBJ, and before I knew it she had my dick in her ass. I am not usually a fan on anal but it felt good so I flipped her over and went doggy in her ass and she seemed to enjoy and was playing for herself and claimed that we came together. 1-hour with massage and anal for 200 euro.
I took one of the spaces to the right of the bar while sipping on another glass f wine and was approached by many girls but I had my mindset to end the evening with Natalya as I had started it but was worried that she won't even get me hard. Around 3 am I called her over and asked her how she got to Palace so she said her Friend Anna brought her so I asked her to call Anna. Anna has been there for 7 months and assured me that her BJ skills are good so I took both girls to the room not knowing what to expect after coming 3 times already that I have not done in 20 years. Anna BJ skills were evident and the 2 girls worked well together and it was very enjoyable having these 2 wild Russians DFK, DATY, liking my balls, liking my asshole, and fucking in all positions. It was really a wild session that I will probably repeat in the near future and I finally came with a rigorous BBBJ / HJ by Anna. Half hour for 200 Euro.
All and All, I had a great time but it was expensive adding up to 700 Euro with entry fees and drinks but I will repeat with no regrets.
Horny Landoora
06-20-12, 12:49
All and All, I had a great time but it was expensive adding up to 700 Euro with entry fees and drinks but I will repeat with no regrets.In the end as you said you had a great time! The price is surely high but where else can you get such beauties that too for such cost to try them out! Ultimately if you have the money to throw at these dames in Palace its worth it!
I surely miss it!
In the end as you said you had a great time! The price is surely high but where else can you get such beauties that too for such cost to try them out! Ultimately if you have the money to throw at these dames in Palace its worth it!
I surely miss it!I completely agree that these FKK clubs are worth it even if they lack the GFE touch and life is too short not to enjoy it to the max.
I tend to compare prices for these European or CIS beauties around the world and budget accordingly.
Kiev and other CIS countries: 500 on girls and 300-400 on accommodation+food+drinks. Totaling 800-900 Euro per day.
All inclusive sex vacation with CIS girls: US $1200-1500 or about 1000 Euro per day.
CIS escort girls in Western Europe: 700-1000 on the girl and 300-400 on accommodation+food+drinks. Totaling 1000 to 1400 Euro per day.
So I try to have an average budget of 1000 Euro per day for everything which seem to work great anywhere; I could only get away for fun a couple of days a month and try to enjoy them to the Max.
I drop the budget by at least 50% if I am in Thailand or Macau but for Asian beauties as I don't touch CIS girls in these areas.
Hessen Bub
06-20-12, 22:34
DATY for an extra 50 (was I sharked as DATY is usually included?)You were, DATY is included in the standard half hour.
DFK, DATY, liking my balls, liking my asshole, and fucking in all positions. It was really a wild session that I will probably repeat in the near future and I finally came with a rigorous BBBJ / HJ by Anna. Half hour for 200 Euro.If you did not do CIM and the girls did not perform a lesbo show that should have been 100€.
HB
I completely agree that these FKK clubs are worth it even if they lack the GFE touch and life is too short not to enjoy it to the max.I'd have to say 85% of the girls I went with the last trip were very much GFE. I focused mainly on Oase, World and Acapulco though. I'm not an expert on Palace, but out of the bunch that I went with I'd say 50% tried to upcharge or withhold services. 700 euro's for 6 hours of fun is a bit on the extreme side. To put it in persepective, you could visit say Acapulco and with 700 euro's pay your entrance, buy several drinks and have your way with 16 of their ladies at 40 euro's a pop.
Went back to the bar where I was approached by few girls not to my liking but an older girl for Dominican (the one with her picture in the bathroom) was very persistent and claimed to be a professional masseuse so we went back to the room. Good massage, BBBJ, and before I knew it she had my dick in her ass. I am not usually a fan on anal but it felt good so I flipped her over and went doggy in her ass and she seemed to enjoy and was playing for herself and claimed that we came together. 1-hour with massage and anal for 200 euro.Did the girl ask you if you wanted anal or just stick it up there? Almost sounds like it was her idea the way you wrote it.
I'd have to say 85% of the girls I went with the last trip were very much GFE. I focused mainly on Oase, World and Acapulco though. I'm not an expert on Palace, but out of the bunch that I went with I'd say 50% tried to upcharge or withhold services. 700 euro's for 6 hours of fun is a bit on the extreme side. To put it in persepective, you could visit say Acapulco and with 700 euro's pay your entrance, buy several drinks and have your way with 16 of their ladies at 40 euro's a pop.I went to Oase on my way back from my US trip and I completely agree with your comment; The girls at Palace overcharges. I am sure, I won't be able to do 16 pops but Acapulco seem nice and will check it out next time I am in Essen.
Did the girl ask you if you wanted anal or just stick it up there? Almost sounds like it was her idea the way you wrote it.The girl never asked me if I wanted Anal, she went CowGirl and stuck my dick in her ass but it was OK and I enjoyed it.
You were, DATY is included in the standard half hour.
If you did not do CIM and the girls did not perform a lesbo show that should have been 100€.
HBI was overcharged and will not repeat palace.
The management has to do something about allowing the girls to overcharge as they must be loosing a bunch of customers. I was there Friday night and business was slow especially when I compared it to Oase.
The girls are pretty but I am sure Palace and the girls will do more business and make more money if they stay the course.
I drop the budget by at least 50% if I am in Thailand or Macau but for Asian beauties as I don't touch CIS girls in these areas.Hi. Thanks for report. Just curious why you "don't touch CIS girls in these areas"? Its an odd place Macau. Cheers Nickc
Hi. Thanks for report. Just curious why you "don't touch CIS girls in these areas"? Its an odd place Macau. Cheers NickcChinese Saunas in Macau are great with a large selection of girls from many nationalities.
There is a better chance of finding an Asian Beauty in Asia than a CIS Beauty and the Asians are at least 50% cheaper.
Searched (probably with the wrong keywords) and found no answers.
Anyone has experience about how the summer impacts on the lineup of the club?
Could it be very thin around late July?
Thanks for any data.
Kimino
I was overcharged and will not repeat palace.
The management has to do something about allowing the girls to overcharge as they must be loosing a bunch of customers. I was there Friday night and business was slow especially when I compared it to Oase.
The girls are pretty but I am sure Palace and the girls will do more business and make more money if they stay the course.I do not go to palace any more, have not been there for more than year. If you are ocasional visitor, like I am, they think we are there first time and upsell and kissing sell and all sort of crap starts. I like Mainhattan and Sharks a lot better. Even Oase has a lot of crap for nonregular visitors. I switched to DUS airport layovers and clubs for many of my travels.
Searched (probably with the wrong keywords) and found no answers.
Anyone has experience about how the summer impacts on the lineup of the club?
Could it be very thin around late July?
Thanks for any data.
KiminoMy understanding from the girls:
Summer lineup only effects the club that don't have nice exterior.
Oase which has a great outside space has a better lineup in the summer as they benefit from a lot of part timers.
I do not go to palace any more, have not been there for more than year. If you are ocasional visitor, like I am, they think we are there first time and upsell and kissing sell and all sort of crap starts. I like Mainhattan and Sharks a lot better. Even Oase has a lot of crap for nonregular visitors. I switched to DUS airport layovers and clubs for many of my travels.Good advise.
What clubs do you recommend near DUS Airport.
I visited Palace on early Sunday afternoon the 17th. I know that's generally not a busy time and I had also been to Oase the night before. There were only a handful of girls working. I had been to Palace twice before with the most recent one year ago. I was pretty disappointed with my visit. I did a session with 2 girls one of which was Polish and the other one escapes me. The Polish girl I think was Elena and she was attractive. The session was lackluster. The other girl gave a BBBJ that wasn't very good while the Polish girl and I kissed. It took me a while because the BJ was bad. I had to extend to an hour. I ended up spending more for 1 session at Palace as I did for 2 similar sessions as Oase. I know it's not comparing apples to apples (Sat. Night at Oase vs. Sunday afternoon at Palace) but I don't think I'll be going back to Palace. I didn't like the upsell even on a Sunday. I have one night left in Frankfurt and will be going back to Oase tonight. The facilities at Palace are definitely better which another reason I was so disappointed. However, I think a night at Oase will cure my ills.
LawrenceCK
06-22-12, 18:37
About FKK Sudfass is this a good Club?
http://germany.adultsearch.com/frankfurt/fkk-club/fkk-sudfass/618
My colleagues always talk about this place.
I've been lurking into other forums but can't find any reviews.
Ill be in Frankfurt tomorrow
About FKK Sudfass is this a good Club?
http://germany.adultsearch.com/frankfurt/fkk-club/fkk-sudfass/618
My colleagues always talk about this place.
I've been lurking into other forums but can't find any reviews.
Ill be in Frankfurt tomorrowI have a collegue as well that talked to me about this club as if it was the best there is. The truth is probably that it used to be a good club, in fact one of the oldest sauna-clubs in Frankfurt if I am not too much mistaken. According to Hessen Bub, it's not worth visiting when you see the current competition from great clubs like Oase, World, Palace, Mainhattan and even Sharks in the Hessen area. I've never been to Sudfass, so I can't tell for sure, but judging from their website, it looks old, cheaper, maybe that translates into the girls looks as well. Anyone been there?
Sudfass used to be my favorite club in Frankfurt. But that was more than 10 years ago. It simply cannot compete with the FKK clubs any more. Really not worth going there.
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I did a session with 2 girls one of which was Polish and the other one escapes me. The Polish girl I think was Elena and she was attractive. The session was lackluster.Two girl sessions are mainly for girls trying to get out of working hard. Its rare that a two girl is going to be good as taking two one girl sessions. 90% of the time will be a waste of money. I have done it with two Thai girls (on my suggestion) and was O. K, with two western girls and was pretty lousy.
Two girl sessions are mainly for girls trying to get out of working hard. Its rare that a two girl is going to be good as taking two one girl sessions. 90% of the time will be a waste of money.I would strongly agree with this, including the part about some girls just not wanting to work so hard. As has been suggested by others, I think one of the keys to having a good two girl session is to let the girls pick each other rather than the monger picking a random one here and a random there that he likes. You want the girls to be into each other in order to get some "synergies" golng.
I've had a couple of outstanding two girl sessions in my "career", but I've never even attempted one at a FKK. The best ever was in Brazil (there are a lot of "bests" about that place). The other was with two Albanians working in Spain. Oh, I've had plenty of opportunities to do doubles at the FKKs. Plenty of "tag teams" will put on the pressure, but I just say I only have one dick for one girl, which always gets a little laugh. I get an even bigger laugh when they try to play to my fantasies and I tell them my fantasy isn't two girls at one time, but more like 5 to 10 at a time! LOL!
Rarely ever will I agree to taking two at the same time. I've got to be in a really good mood! Besides, I would run through my booty budget way too soon too doing that! And have any of you guys ever encountered two girls who will ONLY do threesomes? I find that to be incredibly annoying! You like the one and you want to do her, but she absolutely will not go unless her friend is in on the action too! I met a couple of Polish girls like that at Artemis one time. They were both attractive blondes, but I really preferred one much more over the other, but she would not go without her "friend". It's like they need each other as some kind of security blanket or something. I know one thing. By taking that stance, they're losing many more opportunities to earn.
UShobbyist
06-23-12, 18:17
Sudfass used to be my favorite club in Frankfurt. But that was more than 10 years ago. It simply cannot compete with the FKK clubs any more. Really not worth going there.
EuroThe entry fee of FKK Sudfass is only 20 Euro. FKK Sudfass is located at a good neighbourhood (about 7 minutes' walk from Romer ). The next door ErosCenter is a brothel and I will check it out next time I am in Frankfurt.
Amriptna111
06-24-12, 04:19
Hi all,
Knew palace were having more sharks then ever anyway dropped by just for gina. Well same service from her. Anyway I would like to give info on new tricks for palace girls.
Palace hookers: first time here.
Me : yes.
Bla. Bla. Fast forward.
Me : so for basic session do you frnech kiss.
Palace hookers: yes but for 50 extra.
Me : ok. Well what do you cover for basic session for 30 minutes.
Palace hookers: sex multiple position, kiss you abit here and there, mpos sex, and blowjob with condom.
Me : how about no condom.
Palace hookers : that is another 50 extra. (WTF. Hahahaha0.
P / s by the way 2 more girls did the same thing. Only the old girls are reliable the new ones are total craps. Beautifull but not worth your buck.
I went to the Palace a month and sampled a variety of girls, some of them I knew, some of them I was meeting for the first time.
Here are the names: Joy, Lulu, Marina, Yanita, Kelly, Jacqueline, Kiara, Angelina, Brenda, Maggie, Luana, Cindy, Lisa, Saskia, Olga, Eileen, Andrea, Marisol, Astrid, Ana.
Joy, Deutschland (blonde, tall, fake boobs). I should not have repeated with her, in fact she had resolved a few months ago never to let me fuck her again, and I didn't want to, since she tried to rip me off. But her body holds a place in my memory, both her body and the pleasure I experienced on the first fuck. So resolutions failed before Fate. It was a terrible session, she was resisting my instructions on how to position her body during the BJ. In other words, say the camera were at my head, then she wasn't displaying his body to the camera properly, for we want a full view of the breasts, nipples, and her pussy. To accomplish this in a pose, she has apparently forgotten how to do. Overall, terrible session followed by a dejected mood. Not recommended, but it doesn't really matter: she's hot =)
Lulu, Austria (brunette, tattoos, fake boobs). I wanted to avoid her, really, because I didn't want to fall in love with her again, and sink into a state of dependency. For there are two kinds of love: the first is total satisfaction, like I felt after coming in Samantha (De) : 'I have everything, I want nothing more', so to speak. The second is wanting more than you can possibly get, yet believing, hoping you can attain the impossible. With Lulu, it was the second kind of love I wanted to avoid. I have the tendency never to want to leave the room once I'm in it with her.
She approached me, perhaps curious I was evading her glances. 'Is this your first day? ' she asked (as in first day of my tour). 'Yes' I replied. 'Mine too, it's destiny' she returned (as in her first day after a break). I tried to suppress my smile, but it was too amusing.
Eventually, she asked me if I would like to go the room, 'We go together? ' I replied, 'No, but I can't avoid it'. She understood what I meant, her facial expression indicating gladness in the confirmation of her power.
She's changed her makeup style a bit (basically, she uses more now). Initially, I found it alluring, though later I thought, if she continues on the same path, she'll turn into the Joker. But she was never one to swerve from artificiality: some new or redone tattoos.
Anyway, her proximity melted my resolve and I agreed to session with her. After an hour, I couldn't make up my mind to stay or go. She posed the question in a cat-like pose on the bed, arching her back. I couldn't answer, it was as though I was paralyzed. But the predator had mercy, 'You will be upset with yourself and with me later, if we stay. Let's stop now'.
Do I recommend? Not really, but she's interesting to me, and I like her body. Repeat? Yeah, I will even if I don't want to.
Marina, Cuba (Black-Latin, straight her, net outfit). Marina is black, has a great sense of humor, and offers excellent service, even for €50 (meaning DFK, DATY, etc.).
In general, the key is to just expect it, rather than negotiate beforehand, which is a buzzkill not just for you, but also for the girl. Some girls, believe it or not, like to spontaneously kiss. Also, they can see in your eyes, your demeanor, what service level you expect. Alternatively: keeping a poker-face lets you call the shots: if she can't read you, she has no advantage. Or she might interpret the poker-face as 'you've been around the block, you're nobody's fool: indeed, brothel's aren't that big a deal for you'.
With Marina not of this was an issue, just a digression on my part. She asked me my name. 'Whatever you want', I replied. 'OK, Bill', she replied. I indicated I had to go the bathroom. 'You can just do it in the room', she joked. Naturally, being an upright citizen, I don't condone perversions, and immediately canceled the session. No, just kidding, I laughed, but relieved myself normally first. Anyway, great session: repeat, recommend, etc. Sucker17 enjoyed her too.
As for as cliques are concerned, Marina of course hangs out with the Caribbean clique: with Alice, Marisol, Kelly, and some other girls.
Yanita, Bulgaria (Faux-blonde, perfectly fit, tanned skin, alluring face, fake tits). This time we clicked. Off the hook service for €50, meaning DFK, DATY, etc. Of course, YMMV, but many guys here seem to have good luck. By the way, she herself spells her stage-name 'Yanita' (not 'Janita').
Kelly, Senegal (Black, big fake boobs, huge butt, perhaps wears a wig). Even though Kelly is not Latin, she hangs out with the Caribbean clique, so that's the human cluster wherein you'll find her. I had never gone with her before for some reason, but the body speaks for itself, she has a pretty face and is also intelligent, definitely has an intuitive knowledge of economics and politics. I enjoyed the session, it was only €50. For some reason, we did not kiss, although it was discussed in passing. She said she really disliked it when guys tried to secure DFK before the session: 'I'm not an automaton'. And she indicated that in those cases, she will charge extra, while in general she prefers the kissing to be spontaneous. Anyway, I would repeat and recommend.
Jacqueline, Brazil (Mulatto, wider body, fit, fake boobs, brunette). Sucker17 compares her to Rihanna, however Jacqueline has a better body =) And that is not to say, her face can't compete. I'd take Rihanna only for the sense of power, but in the wilderness Jacqueline trumps her. Jacqueline has perfect technique and animal passion. Without any negotiation, just expectations (but not hopes, hope is the greatest evil, as the Greeks teach us) , everything was included for €50.
In general, full service, as in FKK World level, is possible at Palace. The probability increases with the Latin and Caribbean cliques. These girls, unlike the Europeans, have a harder time dissecting sex into various different acts, sanctimoniously dividing sex into a plurality of different commodities.
Kiara, Deutschland (Slim, lean, fit, runway model's face, covers her fake breasts with black net, sometimes hair in a ponytail, sometimes not). I had resisted Kiara for a while, partly owing to the discrepancy between the subjectivity of other mongers' reports and my own view of her. Because they loved her so much, I envisioned her to something greater than she is. But the reality is, she's pretty hot. Her abs are perfect, and so on.
This time she made the right approach. I told her 'kidnap' wasn't really going to work with me, that it was tired and cliche, that her English was better than that, that she didn't have to feign horniness, that she could just make normal conversation and the proximity of her nude body would eventually do the persuasion. I think I said something like that, in a playful tone, though, and she understood.
I just did a €50 session with her. I knew she wouldn't kiss for €50, but this wasn't a big deal to me at the time. She offered extras, but I said I could only promise €50, since it was our first session together, though maybe I would want an extra in the course of the session. This reasoning she accepted and besides the typical omissions (DFK, DATY) , I did not notice any willful reduction in service. As it turned out, her blowjob was quite good and I could consider doing a CIM with her next time. So indeed, I would repeat and I do recommend. Just spend €100 if you really want to guarantee everything you want.
Additionally, the conversation flowed naturally between us. Among the topics was the odd persistence of fat and / or ugly girls in the place. She really could not fathom the tastes of some men: 'Perhaps I could make more money if I were fat and ugly'. Not said with bitterness, just perplexity at the bizarre. 4chan also forces us to confront, though not comprehend, the relativity in taste.
Angelina, Spain (brunette, fake boobs, fittest girl in the club, large perfect ass). Probably about age 30, self-admitted sports-freak. Speaks English with a Spanish (or perhaps Romanian) accent, but somehow it has a slight New York twang. Anyway, I felt like kissing her and licking, because I like her, though I shouldn't. To make this possible, I did an extra (came on her body) , O heresy. I enjoyed the session, until payday: she wanted €150, but I had already closed my valuables locker. I just explained why it was €100, and she just said, 'It's OK, it was a misunderstanding'. She could not refute my FKK jurisprudence! And as I said, the locker was already relocked, the wallet stowed away: this visual diminishes the shark's hopes.
Recommend? No, but she's really hot, so if you want to fuck an experienced provider, who makes good conversation, then go for it. Repeat? Yeah, once I see her again, I'll overturn any resolutions to the contrary anyway.
Note there is another Angelina From Romania, who advertises as Egypt. I disagree with the necessity of avoiding her, she has one of the more intriguing personalities in the club, good conversation. Maybe I should have gone with her again, but I just stubbornly resisted.
Brenda, Hungary (blonde, natural, green sash, very pretty face, looks so precious and delicate). I couldn't convince her to kiss, but I was close. In a competition where silicon boobs win negative marks, she'd take the prize, that is, for beauty. We connected, she wanted to provide it (kissing) , but kept to her principles. I told her, she really needn't be consistent from customer to customer. After all, I would never tell anyone that she kissed me for €50. It must have been the language barrier, yes.
Her sister Olympia, she said, is out of the business. Brenda does have a son, but this does not seem to have marred her physique as much as she imagines (hence the wide green sash). Recommend? I dunno. Repeat? Yeah, I would, with more cash and ready to spend more time.
Maggie, Bulgaria (brunnette, petite, but large fake boobs, speaks with her eyes, siren songs, typically wears pink spandex over her shoulders, neck, upper arms, and matching spandex on her lower legs). Though young. 24, Maggie is a mother and touches with that certain tenderness: when she wanted to turn it on. YMMV. Excellent kisser, but a bit excessive on the porno talk (but only in the situation when your dick seems to be refusing to cum). In the restaurant, she was telling me perverse fantasies of one of her friends, as though challenging me to satisfy them. I admit, this turned me on.
Recommend? Yeah, but she's only really good after multiple sessions. I wouldn't expect anything good for a one-and-done €50 expenditure. Repeat? Yeah, probably: I know her, she knows me.
Luana, Hungary (shapely natural body, supple, beautiful face, thin blonde hair, always wears black net outfit, perfect butt). I usually go for fake girls, but Luana's beauty liberates me from bad habits. Perhaps the most enjoyable fuck overall, even though she didn't kiss (she didn't upsell either, seem surprised that I wanted to kiss). What made the fucking itself superb was the softness of her body: she seems like a statue in terms of shape, but her body yields pleasantly to the touch. So contact with her while my dick was inside her, drove me crazy. Physical pleasure in the simplest act of sex (missionary) : off the charts.
In other words, Luana is nice to look at and to fuck. Sometimes the leaner girls disappoint the expectations of our eye, and being accustomed to porn, we forget the central role of touch in sex. Perhaps the blind are privileged in this regard.
Recommend? Yeah, if you don't care about kissing (don't think she kisses at all). Repeat? Yeah, she's not just FKK-hot, she's hot. And she has a feminine, obedient manner to her.
Cindy, Poland (tall, blonde, cold face, perfect tits which may be natural, wide soft but fit butt). I said 'cold face', but her body speaks for itself, so she can remain as businesslike as she wants. I opted for her normal session, rather than romantic for €100 with cum on her tits, though her tits were worth coming on, the consideration of securing kissing aside. Even with light, forced PSE, her body was simply too perfect to ruin the session.
Recommend? Yeah, but you know what you're getting into. Repeat? Should I? Maybe not. In a world without money? Yeah. In general, any resolution here will be severely challenged, once she's standing within one foot of me.
Sometimes we overthink sex. She's a hot blonde selling her body for €50 or €100. There's nothing to think about.
lisa, romania (tall, brunette, thin, wide butt, natural boobs). i've said enough about lisa already and unfortunately this time did not learn anything new. in general, the terser character of these reports is a reflection of the fact that this time, mongering was not really a transformative experience for me. i felt like i was repeating something i already did, which suggested to me the necessity of quitting the hobby. for indeed, i only pay for education, not for sex =)
recommend? yeah. repeat? maybe, but i only say maybe because i have so many open threads going with other palace girls. we need to discriminate eventually. so while her disposition is the best in the club, i'm not totally enamored of her looks.
we are cruel swine, aren't we? but perhaps for the best: this trip i had no qualms paying girls unequal sums for the same service. well, i had some qualms, but since i had had qualms before, i anticipated the emergence of guilt on the surface of my consciousness. so god was caught in the act, so to speak. for some reason, i just find it so much easier to suppress moral impulses, than the sexual. but they're both impulses, ya know.
saskia, deutschland (blah, blah). she's overrated, didn't enjoy it. too much business and false ideas of what other girls provide for what sums of money, and so on. i think the no repeat is mutual =)
olga, spain (brunette, very pretty, imploring face, large natural breasts she nonetheless enhanced, pale skin, slightly fat to be blunt). so yeah, initially i trusted my eye: 'oh, she's out of shape', i judged. naively, the moral is don't trust your eye. but the reality is, i was simply divided on the matter visually. actually, i wanted to fuck her, but since there were so many girls i was considered, i used her extra weight as an excuse to chop her off the list. i mean, it's not really bad at all: she does have some cellulite on her butt, but there are no rolls on her abs. anyway, i was attracted to her, but was resisting her for purely rational reasons, that is thoughts not based on any sexual instinct.
luckily, she approached me, and i was convinced. everything for €50 without any negotiations, everything natural, nothing forced. and she stayed the whole half hour, though she hoped i would stay for the next one. i said i would repeat instead. but we are swine. anyway, the fuck with her competes with that with luana on the physical pleasure scale. again, she has soft flesh. oh, if i recall, she's also a mother, early 30's. i really like the early 30's girls, they have that combination of beauty and service that's rare in the ingenues.
recommend? absolutely. repeat? yes, yes, definitely, and for longer time. if i ever go to palace again, and she's not there, i'll notice nothing her absence. nah, but i grant my romantic persona freedom of speech.
eileen, turkey (tanned, fit, fake, cleopatra eyelashes, makeup). definitely not a mother. what can i say? standard palace optickfick. better service for €100, but her body is simply too hot for any hostility to ruin the €50 cheapie. i don't mean to talk lightly of money: i mean 'cheapie' to her. for me, that is a considerable amount of money, however much i waste that quantity in the clubs. in other sections, when i say 'more money' as though it grows on trees, i really mean, on a shorter trip, because then you'll be able to spend liberally, knowing you won't be in the country for too long. well, i suppose, you could miss your flight and go broke, and then become a bum. it's summer, after all, the nights aren't too cold.
recommend? no, i don't, but her body recommends itself to you. repeat? yeah, maybe: of special note, she gives an excellent blowjob: a solid cim option imo. i mean if you enjoy cim, not to buy something you don't want to secure kissing.
oh, i did see her my last trip to palace, but i was too tired to take her. i think she was wondering what was wrong with me, since she was sitting next to me, yet i somehow resisted the temptation to grab her boobs and zimmer her. i was running on empty, but even then i was in deep water. well, i found her again, and resolved to redeem my regret.
Andrea, Colombia (brunette, metallic silver sash, large natural boobs, wider body). Andrea competes with Luana and Olga on the sheer physical pleasure scale. So as you can imagine, she has soft flesh. I don't know, I think our culture is totally fucked up in the exaltation of muscle over fat, excessively Apollonian conception of female beauty. Anyway, she's a fit young woman and she's soft to touch. Feeling her breasts was amazing, likewise fucking her from behind. She only does LFK for €50, as far as I can tell.
Recommend? Yes, while we were waiting for a room, I could seriously hardly wait to fuck her, I was seriously tempted to make blow me right then and there to the finish. Why? Some erections can be harder than others: with my hands on her, I've never felt so hard. Repeat? Obviously.
Andrea hangs out with the Latina clique. On busier nights, this means they turn over rooms to each other, rather than observing the 'first come, first serve' rule. Pun on that if you want.
Marisol, DR (black, blonde highlights, pretty face, wears excessive clothes for an FKK). She's hiding bodily imperfections, I shouldn't have bothered. And she asked the €50 or €100. Absolutely do not recommend, will never repeat. Based on the quality of her accessories, she surely has her regulars though.
About wearing excessive clothes: Joy now always wears a bra. I believe there is a conspiracy among the girls to turn Palace into a sauna club by 2014.
Astrid, Bulgaria (blonde, tan, large tattoo on back, dances on the pole, wide body). Nothing really new to say about her. I'm not so into her now, but that's just my timelines. No, no €50 kissing guarantee here.
Ana, Italy (large fake boobs, formerly had ample natural breasts, silicon just provides extra support, pale skin, not the nicest face, must be the nose). As you can see, the tits tempted me, but I was too tired to cum on them. She was annoyed to only get €50, when she thought she'd get €100, and the service was terrible overall. I was capable of ignoring it, but in the end, it compounded with my fatigue to decide me to end the session. Absolutely no recommend or repeat.
'Italy': not Italian, obviously, but doesn't look that Romanian either, maybe Bulgaria, not sure.
Speaking of noses, I'm sorry to say that Gina's nose is highly imperfect, there are certain ridges here and there. You'll notice if you look at her in profile.
she (sharp talons, snake on her shoulders, golden chalice, will offer you an apple).
oh, almost forgot, there was one girl on the list below who snared me, trapped me, manipulated me, used me, bled me. i've never seen before such genius simulation of innocence, evil so expertly feigning innocence for its own ends. i experienced a shade of female darkness i had only heard about, but never known. yes, there are some wh0res who harbor sinister plans of absolute revenge against the male sex, and propitiate this lust with periodic sacrifices: stupid males deceived, flayed alive. i've never before seen malice so well-disguised, to well-planned, so brilliant, effortless. evil, calculating so precisely the power of a smile. evil, intuiting exactly what i want to hear, and singing it to me, as though she was mine. the wh0re wanting to extract not just money, but a proverbial pound of flesh.
usually, i would discount feminists' accounts of prostitutes as the victims of sexual abuse, women who are trapped in the past, and only know how to play the victim. a sort of stockholm syndrome. but this experience has forced me to reconsider. maybe she did get raped and has never gotten over it. maybe her torment is her passion, in that she revels in each proxy revenge against her 'father', but in sort of sylvia plath ('daddy') twisted way.
no, i'm painting the wrong colors. i think she's just fundamentally autoerotic. men are entirely optional sources of personal pleasure for her. a vibrator will do just fine. or even money, since erotic pleasures mean nothing to her now.
i met this girl at the palace. who is she? oh, you'll know if you delve too deep, journey too far. right when you think you've discovered the mask under the mask, there's another mask. you'll think she's an airhead, but she's in your head.
recommend? no. repeat? yes.
Angus Magee
06-29-12, 10:39
She (sharp talons, snake on her shoulders, golden chalice, will offer you an apple).
S.Is there really a girl at Palace who goes by the name of She? Puts me in mind of an old movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059710/
AM
Angelina, Spain (brunette, fake boobs, fittest girl in the club, large perfect ass). Probably about age 30, self-admitted sports-freak. Speaks English with a Spanish (or perhaps Romanian) accent, but somehow it has a slight New York twang. Anyway, I felt like kissing her and licking, because I like her, though I shouldn't. To make this possible, I did an extra (came on her body) , O heresy. I enjoyed the session, until payday: she wanted €150, but I had already closed my valuables locker. I just explained why it was €100, and she just said, 'It's OK, it was a misunderstanding'. She could not refute my FKK jurisprudence! And as I said, the locker was already relocked, the wallet stowed away: this visual diminishes the shark's hopes.Oh Occultus has risen from the ashes! Thanks for the reviews. I guess you must have fucked your way through 90% of Palace, when you start repeating sessions with girls you've done before? I remember you told me about your adventures with Marina and Jacqueline. Nice to hear you enjoyed them both. I would still do Rihanna over Jacqueline any day, but that's just me! When reading about your session with Angelina, I was initially a bit afraid you'd gone back into the Egyptian pyramid, with no reasonable exit! Could you just tell us why she wanted 150 E and not 100, was it due to COB? Strange that she didn't insist on getting extra paid for that one, like any "normal" Palace chick would do?
Is there really a girl at Palace who goes by the name of She? Puts me in mind of an old movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059710/
AMHehe, no, maybe I should have clarified. I simply went too deep, figuratively, with one of the girls with whom I sessioned, let it get a bit too intimate. But I don't want to reveal which one, so as to dissuade mongers from purchasing her services, because she's really very good if you keep the proper boundaries. And I can't blame her for what she did to me, because I opened myself up to it. So 'She' is just an encryption, so to speak, of the name of a girl I've reviewed below, the name encrypted, because the details are not really suitable for a public board, so I'm just trying to describe the experience in generalities.
Also, I wrote 'She', because H. P. Lovecraft wrote a horror story called 'He'. So I just meant some archetype of the female sex, hence the tags describing her, i.e. as Eve, the Wh0re of Babylon (golden chalice), etc.
Thanks for the rec, I'll have to check that film out.
Oh Occultus has risen from the ashes! Thanks for the reviews. I guess you must have fucked your way through 90% of Palace, when you start repeating sessions with girls you've done before? I remember you told me about your adventures with Marina and Jacqueline. Nice to hear you enjoyed them both. I would still do Rihanna over Jacqueline any day, but that's just me! When reading about your session with Angelina, I was initially a bit afraid you'd gone back into the Egyptian pyramid, with no reasonable exit! Could you just tell us why she wanted 150 E and not 100, was it due to COB? Strange that she didn't insist on getting extra paid for that one, like any "normal" Palace chick would do?Angelina from Spain wanted 150, not 100, because she viewed kissing and COB as separate extras. So half and hour of time, plus COB, plus DFK / DATY, amount to 150 in her reckoning. But she accepted 100. She could not win the dispute anyway.
Yeah, it's problematic: I've fucked through so many girls there, that I'm now getting entangled with cliques (as in twosomes and 'why haven't you fucked my friend? ') and, in general, repeat-session issues.
By the way, overall the lineup at Palace was excellent this time. Many girls that were FKK-hot and many that were cover girl hot in the bright lights, as in 'Why are you working as a wh0re? ', though of course we know why, it's just an expression.
Angus Magee
06-29-12, 20:05
Also, I wrote 'She', because H. P. Lovecraft wrote a horror story called 'He'. So I just meant some archetype of the female sex, hence the tags describing her, i.e. as Eve, the Wh0re of Babylon (golden chalice), etc.Thanks, from the description I thought she might fo by the name Eris.
You never know who you will meet.
Hi guys I have a lot of questions to ask so please bear with me.
I plan on going to Germany soon and trying these FKK clubs, would like to know what is the average of the males there and is there an age limit?
Thanks.
I'm 21, is that too young? What is the average age?
I'm 21, is that too young? What is the average age?I would say average age in most FKK clubs is 40+. But there are youngsters like you and older gents in their 70s or 80s. I do not think people will even look at you and think anything out of the ordinary. But be warned that this "hobby" can be very addictive and can change one's normal priorities in life.
I would say average age in most FKK clubs is 40+. But there are youngsters like you and older gents in their 70s or 80s. I do not think people will even look at you and think anything out of the ordinary. But be warned that this "hobby" can be very addictive and can change one's normal priorities in life.Cheers for the reply.
I'm just looking for fun and from reading lots of forums and doing a lot o research, FKK frankfurt just sounds like paradise. I must have it.
Still reading and learning about FKK.
Hessen Bub
06-30-12, 08:56
Only age restriction is you have to be 18plus.
HB
Member #4285
06-30-12, 09:54
Only age restriction is you have to be 18plus.
HBIf you are a guy.
Does anyone know why Palace has 21+ for girls? Actually I like that, even if I like young girls. But it is not a easy business and maybe thats why..
Hessen Bub
06-30-12, 12:43
You are right, women have to be 21 to work at Palace as a prostitute, but the question referred to the male guests.
There's some laws in Germany around trafficking [§ 232 (Menschenhandel zum Zweck der sexuellen Ausbeutung) oder § 233 a (Förderung des Menschenhandels) ] that more or less say that if you help a girl below 21 years to do this job (drive her to work, give her a place to work or similar things) you can be prpsecuted by law. To stay out of trouble some places (Palace is one of them) agreed with the authorities not to let girl under 21 work in their clubs / appartments.
HB
Back on the Fkk circuit 2 years later my last visit (in the Cologne area). What can I say? I missed those clubs! I planned a 6 days, with a possible rest day in the middle, in the Frankfurt area, aiming at Palace and Oase, primarly, and eventually Mainhattan (World was too far without a car). So:
Day 1. 20/06/2012 Palace
Directions: Getting to Palace is super easy. Take the U-Bahn to Industriehof. Move on the left side of the road (coming from city center) , a few meters onward on the left there's an opening in the wall that border the road; cross that, stay on the left and you'll find the Palace right after a crossroad (150m perhaps?). Last U-Bahn goes back to Frankfurt centre at 1:39. Couldn't it be easier.
The Club: I had only previous experiences at Artemis in Berlin and at Samya in Cologne. Palace is much better than both. Bigger too. More classy. More functional. Better food (there's always a good variety, pasta, meat, potatos, salads, fruit and even desserts). All is very clean. Bar staff are quick and funny to exchange a few words with. There are 2 bars, a jacuzzi, a tv room (perfect to read / nap) , the ubiquitous sauna and of course the dressing rooms for ladies and men (both right after the entrance on the left). Lockers have a safe. Rooms are big, with air conditioning and even with a champagne bottle. The 7 stars on the Palace logo aren't that far fetched.
Only complaint: the restaurant is too small for the size of the club. Something that is apparently common to all FKKs. Don't be surprised if you don't find a seat there and are forced to eat at the bar (or even on a sofa around the jacuzzi!).
The Girls: Romanians seem to be at least 50% of the workforce. Polish are second (20% maybe). The rest is a mix of a couple of Germans. 3-4 south americans, a senegalese girl, a couple of asians and the odd nationality (I met 2 spanish girl. 1 french. 1 latvian. 1 Russian. 1 ukrainian and 1 Czech). Variety is ok. I'm not particularly fond of Romanians so I'd wish there were more of other east Europe countries.
Preface: I don't masturbate often. I tend to abstain from it for long periods of time whenever I know I'm going to have a sex spree like I had in Frankfurt. I went 2 months without any orgasm before this trip. Therefore some of my choice at the beginning weren't optimal, hormones took the lead of my brain, sorry.
Anna, rumenian, above 30 years old, right boob natural, left one fake (really!) , brunette, pretty short, enough meat in the right spots as to be milfy. Did DFK, good but not exceptional BBBJ, was attentive, calm and didn't try to upsell too much (asked for CIM but I turned down and opted for COB that is included in the standard fare). Not particularly beautiful nor enthusiast.
Regrets? Just a bit. Repeat? Probably not but because there are far more beautiful girls in Palace to repeat with an under average beauty.
After a few minutes of relax, but still very horny, I got approached by two brunettes. I usually don't go after duos, they are a waste of money in my opinion. They insisted though. What made me falter was the thought that I had never tried a threesome and these two girls were already working together and friends, so there was no chance they could not like one another. Decided to try then. The two girls were:
Selena, spanish. 30ish, long black hair, quite tall, long legs, slim, natural, small tits, sad smile, quiet.
Alexa, ukrainian, quite young (21-22) , short black hair, short, great round ass, nice legs and feet, disarming smile, speak great italian.
In the room, they immediately tried to upsell: no lesbo show without adding 50€. I wasn't particularly interested in that, I just wanted to have 2 girls to alternatively fuck at once so I turned the offer down (not without some sad faces from them). No BBBJ but they sucked and blowed together. Selena did DFK while Alexa only LFK. They kept trying to upsell but stopped once they understood that I was there to fuck both without any extra. Selena did most of the work while Alexa masturbated herself with open legs (but didn't let me touch her in the nice spots). Selena is clearly more experienced than Alexa, good moves while fucking. Alexa is more of a beauty and hasn't to work that hard to get clients. MPOS.
Regrets? No, Alexa is too beautiful to have regrets. Repeat? No, too much upselling and Alexa wasn't really engaged. In retrospect, just Alexa would have been better.
Strangely I didn't find the need for a third session. I was content with what I had had. Quite odd considering the long abstaining. Thing is, I noticed too many sharks and too many girls that, while not acting like one, had that mix of beauty and coldness that I so dislike. Plus, it was a lingerie day and I found myself not liking the covering (albeit very minimal). I had also to switch hotels next morning and wouldn't have much time to have breakfast, visit the city, get back to the first hotel, check-out and go to the second one. Thus ended my first day at Palace.
Day 2. 21/06/2012. Palace
Next round at Palace. There were quite a few beauties that I didn't had the chance / time / desire to approach the day before that was my duty to retry. I was intrigued by Oase but left it for the following days. I am in the mood for blondes this time and let Chiara approach me at the bar.
Chiara, german father, Russian mother, speaks german, Russian, english and some spanish, forgot the age (couldn't have been more than 27-28) , blonde, tanned, tall, fake boobs, big nipples, quite beautiful. She was honest enough to admit that she doesn't kiss for just 50€ but for 100€ she would do it plus DATY. I let the hormones lead and accepted the offer. She complied and did DFK, DATY. 69, MPOS. She tried to be a GFE but she can't fake it well. Good BBBJ. Came in doggy. We had 10 minutes left and Chiara didn't rush out of the room but accepted to spend them chatting a bit while both still naked. Of course the 100€ had a big influence in this.
Regrets? No. Repeat? At standard 50€ probably no, only if I wanted to spend 100€ again.
Being quite tired from all the walking during the morning and by having slept very little, I take a nap on the sofa that are supposed to be the no-girls zone. Instead, I was approached 2 times with the last being a fucking Romanian that dropped herself above my, instantly waking me up. And pissing me off too. I'd expect the no-girls zone to be more enforced by a German management.
Well, after resting for a good while, I got stopped on the way to the bar by a brunette that had already approached me the night before. She reacted quite badly to my "not now" then, telling me that I should be more honest and say that she isn't my type and don't let her lose her time. Whatever. If I say "not now" I mean exactly that and indeed she was on my radar of "girls that I might session with". She didn't recognize me nor remember the previous encounter. I accepted a session with her.
Nina, Romanian, brown, long hair, quite tall, very slim, small tits (natural) , pronounced nose that partly ruined otherwise nice face features, tanned skin, long legs. Out of the room I insisted for DFK which she agreed but when in the room she asserted to have understood "DFK for 50€ more". Yeah, of course. I was already pissed off from the start but she had already started sucking me so I couldn't retreat. I decided to not come though and fuck her as much as I could. Not a great blowjob either, too toothy. I fucked her for a good while then, she asked me to come more than once. At the fourth time she did, tired to hear her asking that, I stopped and explained that not always I can come but this doesn't mean that she isn't doing her job well."It happens". She seemed very sad, feeling guilty and didn't seem willing to resume fucking. I then reached out for my watch to see if we had enough minutes to restart fucking or we had to get out already. At that she started bitching that I had checked the watch because I was bored of her (true) and that I didn't want to fuck her anymore because she was very bad (false). I tried to talk her into resuming but she first said she felt like crying and then, after having calmed a bit, seemed like she wanted to laugh. What's wrong with you Nina? To make a long story short, we wasted the last minutes talking. Not that bad because I didn't want to come but I would have liked to fuck her some more. She needs to take things much easier though.
Regrets? Yes. Repeat? No.
I am starting to have enough of upselling girls and poor performances. I remember Artemis (a few years) back having a much higher performances quality. I decide to stop sessioning unless I stumble upon a girl that: 1) doesn't seem a shark. 2) is beautiful and 3) seems a good fuck. I wait for a long time to meet one that satisfied all parameters. But then I see her at the bar, chilling:
Sophie, french from Lille. 26 years old, short, black hair, glasses, slim with a small belly fat, slim legs, medium sized tits, natural but saggy. She is the only girl that wears glasses, at least in the days I've been at Palace. I am strangely attracted by her, it must be that mix of being french, looking intellectual and not approaching anybody but let men approach her. Good conversionalist too. Nice english. I forget to ask for DFK and in fact she doesn't offer it, only LFK. But I forgive her for the rest of her performances: slow, passionate sex, lots of kisses (just not with the tongue) , great, slow BBBJ, good movements in doggy. She doesn't say much during sex, only some moaning. No upselling at all. Accepts any position and has good stamina. We finish slightly short of the 30 minutes mark and Sophie spend the last minutes chatting instead of leaving the room like it was on fire (as many others have done). Smart girl, it's clearly doing this job by her own will and not out of need.
Regrets? No. Repeat? Of course!
Sophie was the last session for the evening. Next day I decided to go to Oase to see the difference and establish where I'm going to spend the rest of my days in Frankfurt (turns out it will be a quite difficult choice).
Day 5. 25/06/2012. Palace
I took an off day on the 24. I also spent it to reflect if it was better to repeat Oase or get back at Palace. In the end easyness to reach it by public transportation, better services and no clear advantages from the Oase girls over Palace's lead me to spend the last day at Palace again. After a pause day I am recharged enough and intend to have all the afternoon and the evening at the club. It's a Monday and I don't thus expect many girls.
In fact, coming in the early afternoon means meeting a nearly deserted place: probably no more than 20 girls with a dozen or less men. Very quiet then. Too much probably. I was hoping to have a chance to session with either a very tall german blonde with a big tatoo on her left arm (I refused her because she looked too much like a cold fuck) or a curly haired brunette with wonderful, and natural, tits. I will not see either, unfortunately. A senegalese girl, big body and blonde hair, approaches me and invites to sit down with her for a while. I don't like her face too much so I don't act like I'm much interested. After a few minutes of chatting she understands that and send me away rudely. Whatever you, I'm not going to have you later as I was planning if no more girls would enter.
The place is so deserted (meaning, deserted of girls that I'd session with) that I take the chance to have a nap in the tv room and wait for more girls to arrive. Which luckly happens. Back at the bar I get approached by a fake blonde:
Chantal, Polish, looks very young, fake blond hair, quite tanned, petite body, nearly no tits, a butterfly tatooed on her left shoulder. She really looks like a naugthy little girl. DFK already at the bar. I accept her avanches. In the room she doesn't kiss much, still DFK though, but proposes a lot of position which I happily accept to try. Tries to convince me into doing anal. Seems to enjoy sex and fakes passion convincingly. By the end of the session grows tired and just lay there waiting for me to come (which I do).
Regrets? No. Repeat? Probably yes.
Back at relax time. It's really a slow day so I don't get approached much. A new girl, wearing a white fishnet that goes from the neck to the upper legs, sit near me at one sofa around the jacuzzi:
I forgot her name sorry, she is latvian from Riga, copper-brown hair, very tall (1, 80cm at least) , long legs, fit body, fake tits, nose slightly too big to make her really beautiful, speaks great english, good conversionalist, gentle, educated, very quiet, shy, doesn't approach everybody but only men she is interested in (so she says). In the room she is very passionate, takes things very slow, doesn't kiss a lot and when she does use only the tip of the tongue, prefers CBJ but obliged to my request of a BBBJ (which was really great) , MPOS, great stamina, good movements. We spend the last minutes chatting without any request on my part. She has that touch that makes you forget you are having sex with a prostitute and make things go very smoothly. I met her after at the restaurant and at the bar and found myself wondering what on earth such an educated, classy girl like her does in a FKK club.
Regrets? No. Repeat? Absolutely yes.
After eating and relaxing a little more, I'm back at the bar looking for new arrivals. Some girls have indeed arrived but not the ones I was hoping for. It's now probably 30-35 girls and 30 men. It's an ok lineup considering it's Monday. I'm tempted to leave, not being interested in anybody in particular but I'm willing to wait some more time to see if I'm lucky. I am. Here it comes a blonde:
Anya, Polish from Warsaw, clearly above 30, blonde, fake tits, slim, wears white suspenders, nice small ass, extremely captivating, she uses her hands all over my body while doing some dirty talking already at the bar. She affirms to kiss ("of course I kiss, I kiss old men why not you?") and claims to be "my kitten". Well, I love cats so I can't refuse her. In the room she is a great PSE: dirty talking over the course of the whole session, offers anal but doesn't insist. 69, wonderful BBBJ, MPOS, great stamina, it seems to be never tired and of not having never enough of sucking a cock, we finish in doggy (I say "we" because she trembles and sweats like she has had an orgasm too, which she confirms). Lets me spend some minutes in caressing her while we recover from the orgasm.
Regrets? Are you mad? None! Repeat? Every day of my life!
After Anya and considering that no better girls have come during our session, I don't believe I can get any better than her. I take a last coffee, dress and take one of the last train to Frankfurt centre.
While it wasn't a trip as good as I had hoped, it wasn't bad at all. The very last day and a couple of good sessions before made it worth the hassle (and money). Shame about me really not clicking with any Romanian. They are beautiful but they seem always so fake and mischievous. In retrospect I had, and have, better memories of Artemis a few years back right because there weren't much romanians. I now can't help but be very wary of having sex with any Romanian again. Probably I shouldn't have given 2 days to Oase and spent 1 at Mainhattan. Lesson learned, I guess. And another lesson is to not rely too much on sheer beauty nor on previous reviews here; not that they aren't useful, I wouldn't be writing one if I didn't believe it could be useful to somebody, but we all have different tastes and way of doing things and girls also can react quite differently to different kind of approaches so it's really YMMV. A lot. Follow your instincts above anything else, that's my suggestion. And if it moves like a shark, speak like a shark and looks like a shark, it's a shark.
Which one is the closest to the Palace?
Do You get many black guests? Being black myself. Also is that likely to be a problem with the girls?
A fantastic set of detailed reports Lucasur, thank you.
After a few minutes of relax, but still very horny, I got approached by two brunettes. I usually don't go after duos, they are a waste of money in my opinion. They insisted though. What made me falter was the thought that I had never tried a threesome and these two girls were already working together and friends, so there was no chance they could not like one another. Decided to try then. The two girls were:
Selena, spanish. 30ish, long black hair, quite tall, long legs, slim, natural, small tits, sad smile, quiet.
Alexa, ukrainian, quite young (21-22) , short black hair, short, great round ass, nice legs and feet, disarming smile, speak great italian.Sometimes I wonder how these girls become such friends, do they share a room in the club or something?
I mean what could a thirty something Spanish girl and a younger Ukranian girl who speaks great Italian have in common?
Hessen Bub
07-01-12, 17:14
Why do they have to be friends if they are hunting together? Hunting in packs maybe more successfull. And yes, some girls do share the same room.
HB
Just be careful with your budget, the girls will be on you like vultures on a fresh corpse.
I'm 21, is that too young? What is the average age?
Do You get many black guests? Being black myself. Also is that likely to be a problem with the girls?Teddy1210, your question about closest hotel to Palace is easy to find out by RTFF! Answer: Fleming's hotel Neue Börse (really the closest one!) and Ibis City West hotel, Breitenbachstrasse 7. Just google them for details.
Black guests in an FKK? I have seen some black guys in Oase and I don't think any of them had any problems. I don't believe the colour of your skin is very relevant, it's more how you act yourself. If a girl don't want to go with you, just choose someone else. There's always girls who cares more about the size of your wallet than your skincolour. Enjoy and report!
Another business trip to Germany and a good reason to celebrate. It's my fifth FKK anniversary so I've decided to add a tour of my favourite FKKs to the usual business routine. I'm starting with the Palace, then the World, the Oase and to finish with a bang I'll go south to Stuttgart to explore the Paradise, that I have not visited before. I'll try to get down to writing separate reports on the relevant threads.
There we go. Palace, I love the place. And it's so well located. It takes me less than two hours from touchdown at FRA airport to get to my hotel at the city centre, freshen up then get to the club, all by public transport. The connections have been described many times on this forum. I pay EUR 75. 00 entrance fee and feel like I'm coming back home. It's about 20h00.
Today it's Messe time and although I normally avoid Frankfurt's FKKs during the busy fairs, this time I make an exception. I'm looking forward to sample some special Messe talent and see what the action is on a paricularly busy day. As it turned out, the club was different than on an ordinary day, though not quite in the way I expected.
Every time I enter the main room of the Palace these days I feel like I would like to turn back the clock and return to the previous design. I'm also curious how the new interior will be used on extra busy days. Visions of long lines waiting for free rooms and steamy action all around the main hall circle around my mind. Will they be confirmed by reality?
First impressions: quite as expected there are many more men inside than on an ordinary day and, rather surprisingly, relatively few women. I notice, rather disappointed, and this is confirmed by my observations throughout the night, that the number of women present is not significantly higher than on an ordinary day and, what is even more disappointing, I see plenty of familiar faces around and hardly any new talent.
The male crowd kept growing throughout the night. I made some calculations around midnight: there were about 90-100 guys in the main room and only about 5 girls. And, surprisingly, while I observed the girls I noticed they would walk around, talk to the guys and get more and more frustrated as nobody would want to go to the room. Isn't it what happens to the shark when it attacks a shoal of fish? It's disoriented by the sheer number of the prey and is unable to make a successful attack.
It was a weird night, the male crowd seemed more interested in drinking and talking than in the girls around. I guess most were FRA fair visitors, tourists in the Palace and most left the establishment without a single session. The girls were increasingly pissed-off, there were at least a few free rooms at all times, no action around the main room, the cinema deserted. Well, not my best day in the Palace and I've learnt my lesson. Messe time is not my time.
Getting down to what matters most: in the Palace, I'm not interested in drinking and talking.
EMANUELA (Italy) is one of my favourites. For lack of new talent I opted for proven quality. We've had plenty of great sessions over the years. Emanuela knows how to please me and she can appreciate a good Stammkunde. I love what she does in bed, fucking her I feel like I'm fucking my long-term lover. It's great but the novelty is gone and routine starts creeping in. No regrets though. One hour: EUR 100. 00 Looks 8 / performance 9.
LEA (Romania) was looking for some business and not able to attract the attention of anyone of the loud crowd in the middle of the room. I was looking for a new girl so I took pity on her. Not a good choice. The night was clearly taking its toll on her, her mind was somewhere else. We didn't click. 30 minutes: EUR 50. 00 Looks 7 / performance 4. Repeat: no.
LULU (Austria, at least that's what she says). Later in the night, the set-up is the same again. Lulu is standing in the middle of the main room surrounded by at least 80 guys and apparently none of them is interested in sex. LOL. I approach her and take her straight to a room. Lulu has a huge tattoo on her back, she could easily compete with Bee. I'm not a big fan of huge tattoos but decide I give her a try and I'm not disappointed. There's chemistry there. I love Lulu's performance, she's responsive, we really get into it. 30 minutes: EUR 50. 00 Looks 8 / performance 9 (or 10, why not, I hardly ever give 10) Repeat: sure.
Summing up: good sex was there to be had but I'll keep on avoiding the Palace during Messe time.
Another business trip to Germany and a good reason to celebrate. It's my fifth FKK anniversary so I've decided to add a tour of my favourite FKKs to the usual business routine. I'm starting with the Palace, then the World, the Oase and to finish with a bang I'll go south to Stuttgart to explore the Paradise, that I have not visited before. I'll try to get down to writing separate reports on the relevant threads.
There we go. Palace, I love the place.Basel, thanks for the report. Glad you enjoyed Lulu.
Hi everyone,
I will be mongering for the first time in Frankfurt for a day this summer.
I only have one day (flying back at night). Initially I thought I would stop by RLD
Before going to Palace, after reading many posts and reviews,
I have decided to go directly to Palace.
I have few questions about the Palace:
-Do you have to pay extra for food and drinks? Or it is included with the cover charge of 75€?
I read you can take a shower inside and should ask for a robe:
-Do people walk around in robe or put back their own cloths or both?
I read you have locker:
-Do you also store you money there?
If so each time you have to pay a girl, do you go back to your locker and get the money?
Is BBBJ usually included for 50€?
Any recommendations / suggestions are welcome.
Special thanks to Occultus and Lucasur for the great reports.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Hessen Bub
07-05-12, 10:07
See answers below:
-Do you have to pay extra for food and drinks? Or it is included with the cover charge of 75€?
non-alcoholic beverages, coffee and food are included.
-Do people walk around in robe or put back their own cloths or both?
it's either robe or towels (both included in the 75€) , no clothes inside the club for you
I read you have locker:. Do you also store you money there?
they do have separate small lockers across the small bar in the entrance area, there you can store your money, keys, mobile phone. Also there's a small safe inside the locker for the clothes.
If so each time you have to pay a girl, do you go back to your locker and get the money?
yes, you take her to the small lockers and pay her there. You can also take some cash with you into the room and pay her inside.
Is BBBJ usually included for 50€?
yes, it is ALWAYS included. If a girl tells you otherwise she's ripping you off
HB
Thanks HB for the great and quick reply.
I will report back for sure.
Member #4285
07-05-12, 16:26
Thanks HB for the great and quick reply.
I will report back for sure.Which day will you visit? If you like lingerie you should visit the club at a Wednesday (lingerie-day). All other days in the week the girls are more naked. Which country are you from?
Which day will you visit? If you like lingerie you should visit the club at a Wednesday (lingerie-day). All other days in the week the girls are more naked. Which country are you from?I will there be on Sunday, I live in Spain (expat read: I am not Spanish).
Member #4243
07-05-12, 20:54
Occultus"repeat? Yeah! Even if I don't want to." that is truly fucking hilarious by anyone's standards. Anyway will be hitting fkk land early September and am currently preparing a long list of logistical and club related questions to bombard the boards with? Not really only kidding but there are a couple of legitimate queries I do have which will be posted soon.
Many thanks
So Mohab? What date had you in mind for your next visit to Hessen? Did you choose the weekend September 7-9, just before arrival of the messecrowd from Automechanika? In that case, I would think it's a good choice (line-up wise).
Member #4243
07-06-12, 09:51
Yes exactly. Arriving around the 5th and planning to escape before the automechanika posse kick in.
WorkTravel80
07-06-12, 22:03
Just booked a Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt. Ill be travelling the 5th of January, right after my birthday. So I have something to look forward to. 6 month isn't that long, hehe. So, for the first time in my short Fkk career, Illbe visiting the Palace on a Saturday. My question is, what kind of girls can I expect to find such day, and what about the lineup? I really hope that I will see my Romanian favorite from last visit. I think her name was Nina. She was mentioned in an earlier report. Really enjoyed my time with her, although she seemed kind of bitchy / agressive at first. But she turned to be really nice.
Thanks.
Norwegian 90
Sebastiane
07-13-12, 19:40
Just booked a Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt. Ill be travelling the 5th of January, right after my birthday. So I have something to look forward to. 6 month isn't that long, hehe. So, for the first time in my short Fkk career, Illbe visiting the Palace on a Saturday. My question is, what kind of girls can I expect to find such day, and what about the lineup? I really hope that I will see my Romanian favorite from last visit. I think her name was Nina. She was mentioned in an earlier report. Really enjoyed my time with her, although she seemed kind of bitchy / agressive at first. But she turned to be really nice.
Thanks.
Norwegian 90Hi,
On a Saturday after about 7 pm it gets really busy and there'll be loads of hot girls of all types and for all tastes but there'll be lots of guys too so you'll have to wait a bit for the rooms or a long time for the really popular girls.
It's great fun though!
London Traveller
07-14-12, 21:04
As I'd been to Oase two days in a row and become thoroughly fed up with the food, I thought I'd give Palace a try as it has been ages since I have been there, so I hadn't seen the new set up in the lounge, and the food is much better. (For anyone looking at my post from yesterday on the Oase thread, the title should have read 'Friday at Oase'.)
The new lounge design (actually a year old now - but new to me) is much better for circulation and seeing what is happening everywhere (although the place is rather dark) as the bar is at the side rather than in the middle. I preferred it and there were plenty of places to sit and watch the scene.
Unfortunately, the girls (at least the two I tried) were a bit of a mixed bag. My first was Luana, a Hungarian 27 year old, with a great slim figure. She initially asked for 200 euros for the hour but accepted 150 which was meant to include the full GFE with kissing etc. In the room she didn't kiss but was quite erotic with her BBBJ and enjoyed looking at herself in the mirror. She had a habit of breaking off what she was doing to make comments but she managed to keep things going for long enough that we did an hour and a half (so she can't have been that bad!). She only fucked me for about 2 minutes in cowgirl. At an angle and looking at herself in the mirror throughout. That bit was rather weird. During the session she asked for CIM extra, which was declined, and also offered to put a finger in my ass for extra as well. This was also declined Afterwards she gripped me close as we passed through the lounge again. Anyone looking at us would have thought she was the full GFE. She obviously knows how to play the room. Total damage was 200 euros.
After dinner next up, after I had been hassled by a lot of girls, was Cynzia (not sure of spelling) a Latvian 25 year old (some exotic Russian blood in her too) with her hair up in a bun and D cup fake tits. I liked her approach, which had the human touch. I. E. She didn't mention going to the room in the first sentence. And she also promised the GFE so off we went even though I didn't really like the fakeness of the boobs. In the room there was hardly any kissing, the blow job was covered (although I think she would have done it uncovered if I had insisted) , she constantly checked the condom (I countered this by getting her to keep her hand on her pussy) and the fake boobs she didn't like being touched. Even though they were a year old. However, she had chosen a room with a nice large mirror, so I made the most of this and chose positions where I could watch what was happening. We finished in spoons and she kept her legs nice and open so we could both see the action. Out of the room in 25 minutes, the damage was the standard 50 euros.
Overall I was unimpressed with the standard of the girls, there were too many fake tits and pushy attitudes for my liking. I also never found the enthusiasm that I was really looking for, although both girls I saw had their good points, I wouldn't repeat with either. Would I return? Maybe just for the food. The red snapper at dinner wasn't bad at all.
Sorry, guys, I've been swamped recently and haven't got a chance to read through. I'll be in Hessen only for one night in September. Which FKK is the hottest lately, Palace, Oase or World?
London Traveller
07-15-12, 20:31
Sorry, guys, I've been swamped recently and haven't got a chance to read through. I'll be in Hessen only for one night in September. Which FKK is the hottest lately, Palace, Oase or World?I think Oase has the best combination of choice, looks, enthusiasm and quality of service. Just a shame about the food and the random temperature of the showers downstairs.
Hessen Bub
07-15-12, 20:56
Luana: 200€/60min with no DFK an no extras? What a rip off, that should have been 100€ including DFK.
HB
London Traveller
07-15-12, 22:43
Luana: 200€/60min with no DFK an no extras? What a rip off, that should have been 100€ including DFK.
HB200 Euros for the hour was what she initially wanted, however I offered 150, which she accepted. And I paid 200 as we spent an extra 30 minutes in the room. 90 minutes in all. In fact, although she agreed to DFK in the negotiation, in the room she didn't do this at all. However, she was entertaining enough in other respects to keep me amused for well over an hour, although I wouldn't repeat. Sometimes I like girls who are a bit difficult if they have interesting personalities.
I hit the Palace on Sunday. I got there about 3:00 PM I think. Initially, I was thinking 'This was a huge mistake. ' I didn't actually count the people, but it looked like the male-to-female ratio was about 4:1. Not a good sign.
On top of the ratio problem, I wasn't exactly impressed with the women I saw either. Maybe it was the fact that this was my third consecutive day of mongering, but I just wasn't feeling it for any of them. I decided to do what a few other guys were doing. Sleep for a little while.
I don't know how long I slept but it wasn't exceptionally long. At least I don't think it was long. However, it was like I was Rip VanWinkel. I woke up to a new world. The ratio problem had flipped. I don't know where all the men went, and I don't know where all the women came from, but the ratio was much nicer now.
My first girl claimed to be Greek. Maybe she is. Maybe not. I can't remember her name either. Something like Clarissa, but probably not that. Anyway, she had a nice tight figure and a good attitude. Not as attractive in the face once I saw her in better light, but still attractive. Standard fare in the room, with several positions and CIM. Total damage 100 Euro.
Then I came out, got a shower, and ran into Gitta the Hungarian. That is, she went by the name Gitta when she was at Oase. I didn't actually ask her what name she uses in Palace. I talked with her a bit and was happy to see that she remembered me. Then we headed to the room. The activities were nothing unusual, but her service was. And always has been. Exceptional to me. Total damage 50 Euro.
My time with Gitta, combined with the previous two days activities, had worn me down so I got some food, thinking that it might give me some energy. While eating, a lovely Romanian woman calling herself Lia (or maybe 'Leah'. She pronounced it 'Lee-Uh') sat next to me. We had a friendly conversation. Quite pleasant.
Then I went to check the computer back by the little pool because I was expecting some important emails. While checking that, Lia approached me and tried to convince me to stop doing that and come to a room with her. I told her that I would take care of business and then look for her.
Taking care of business took longer than I initially thought it would. After the emails, I had to make a few phone calls, so I went to the locker for awhile. Afterward, I went back out into the general population.
After a few minutes I saw Lia lounging on a couch. I was about to talk to her when she started complaining about me breaking my promise to her. I corrected her, telling her that I had promised to find her when I had taken care of all of my business. She kept hassling me, not in a very obviously playful way either. I quickly got tired of what I perceived to be a bad attitude and told her that I would not see her because I don't like catching grief. It killed my mood / attitude toward her.
So I decided to go for another nap. I was snoozing when that 'Egyptian' parasite named Angelina came and climbed on top of me. Of course it woke me up. I initially tried to be polite about my refusal, but she wouldn't get off of me. I finally told her very candidly that I would never go into a room with a girl who didn't respect my obvious desire to get some rest, even if she was the personification of my dream girl. Which Angelina is NOT. She finally got the message and left. However, I was now awake and not feeling all that ready for another round with anybody.
I went to the front bar and sat there drinking some water. I was about to go into the locker room and go home but a Russian girl named Donna very shyly asked me something. I don't even remember actually what she asked, but it started a conversation which led to a trip to the room. I liked Donna's demeanor. She was quite tall in her 8 inch heels (which is usually not a turn on for me) but I really liked the almost shy way that she behaved. I found her quite charming and very pretty.
I told Donna that I wasn't sure I could even get it up anymore. I was exhausted. But I liked her too much to forego the attempt. In the room, I was actually amazed at how good her BJ felt. Far from not being able to get it up, I was at full attention very quickly and enjoying her skills. Then we did a few positions of CFS and I told her I wanted to cum in her mouth. She resumed her excellent BJ, but I wasn't cumming. I knew the only way I could do it was in doggy, so we went back to that. I gave her 100 Euros because she worked her ass off trying to get me to cum in her mouth. Great lady.
Then I drove away. After changing into my street clothes, of course.
Sometimes I like girls who are a bit difficult if they have interesting personalities.I definitely agree with you there, London Traveller. I limited my damage with Luana to 50, but saw some potential in her, which she probably displayed more for you, given the duration and cost of the session.
I believe I've sessioned with Cynzia, Cynthia? Or Susianna, as I mistakenly spelled her name in November (Latvia, hair in a bun, seems to be the same girl). She definitely has a nice approach ('the human touch') , is willing to spend the extra minutes of couch time. Yes, she definitely would have done the bareback blowjob, had you insisted. Her boob job leaves her breasts too immobile, I think: not a fan of it either.
Thanks for the report.
200 Euros for the hour was what she initially wanted, however I offered 150, which she accepted. And I paid 200 as we spent an extra 30 minutes in the room. 90 minutes in all. In fact, although she agreed to DFK in the negotiation, in the room she didn't do this at all. However, she was entertaining enough in other respects to keep me amused for well over an hour, although I wouldn't repeat. Sometimes I like girls who are a bit difficult if they have interesting personalities.I still am at a loss to see how a 90-minute session, no matter how good, without extras (not even dfk or BBBJ?) comes to 200e? It should be 150e, right? So you gave her a 50euro tip? That is...remarkable.
O
Member #4285
07-16-12, 11:09
After a few minutes I saw Lia lounging on a couch. I was about to talk to her when she started complaining about me breaking my promise to her. I corrected her, telling her that I had promised to find her when I had taken care of all of my business. She kept hassling me, not in a very obviously playful way either. I quickly got tired of what I perceived to be a bad attitude and told her that I would not see her because I don't like catching grief. It killed my mood / attitude toward her.
So I decided to go for another nap. I was snoozing when that 'Egyptian' parasite named Angelina came and climbed on top of me. Of course it woke me up. I initially tried to be polite about my refusal, but she wouldn't get off of me. I finally told her very candidly that I would never go into a room with a girl who didn't respect my obvious desire to get some rest, even if she was the personification of my dream girl. Which Angelina is NOT. She finally got the message and left. However, I was now awake and not feeling all that ready for another round with anybody.Strange reaction from her when you came as promised. Do they think we should drop everything and just hit the room in 2 sec? If I was 16 whyear old yes, but as a grown up man?
And Angelina. I wonder how many times she gets roomtime when she does this. Wow, what an idiot (and not many times I call the girls an idiot, actually the first I think).
Strange reaction from her when you came as promised. Do they think we should drop everything and just hit the room in 2 sec? If I was 16 whyear old yes, but as a grown up man?
And Angelina. I wonder how many times she gets roomtime when she does this. Wow, what an idiot (and not many times I call the girls an idiot, actually the first I think).Yeah, Lia seemed like a rather impatient young woman. She seemed nice in the restaurant, but she kinda killed my mood with her complaining.
And Angelina is always like that. Very bothersome. I saw her do the same thing to a couple of other guys as well. I didn't see any of them taking her up on her "offer".
London Traveller
07-16-12, 17:49
I still am at a loss to see how a 90-minute session, no matter how good, without extras (not even dfk or BBBJ?) comes to 200e? It should be 150e, right? So you gave her a 50euro tip? That is. Remarkable.
OHi Ortos,
I would like to meet up with you next time I go to Palace so that I can see how you manage to get decent service out of the best looking girls there for the standard rate.
My next Frankfurt trip is in August.
Hi Ortos,
I would like to meet up with you next time I go to Palace so that I can see how you manage to get decent service out of the best looking girls there for the standard rate.
My next Frankfurt trip is in August.That's a rather strange comment. One could infer that you are stating that the only way to get decent service out of the best looking girls there is to pay them something above the standard rate. That is not my experience.
I have been Friday and Saturday at Palace and these are my final results (one for the looking and the other for the service)
Looking.
1) Flora 29 whyear old Bulgaria 9.
2) Leonora 24 Albania 8, 5.
3) Anna 24 Hungary 8, 5.
4) Annabella 22 Romania 8, 5.
5) Marta 24 Poland 8.
6) Lisa 24 Romania 8.
7) Nicoletta 29 Romania 7, 5.
8) Girl from Slovenia 7
Services.
1) Nicoletta 9.
2) Leonora 8, 5.
3) Anna 8, 5.
4) Girl from Slovenia 8, 5.
5) Annabella 8.
6) Lisa 8.
7) Marta 7, 5.
8) Flora 7
Hessen Bub
07-16-12, 21:15
I would like to meet up with you next time I go to Palace so that I can see how you manage to get decent service out of the best looking girls there for the standard rate.I would like to see you not go with sharks and report them to management. You've been around German FKKs long enough.
HB
London Traveller
07-16-12, 21:59
I would like to see you not go with sharks and report them to management. You've been around German FKKs long enough.
HBI liked Luana's ass too much for that. She wasn't a shark to me. I told her that if I didn't like what she was up to I would terminate before half an hour was up. In actual fact I liked her so much that I extended by half an hour. She worked the full hour and a half and I considered her good VFM.
I realise that she didn't keep some of her promises (e.g. no DFK and I also asked her not to offer extras which cost more money) but her performance was good enough in other respects for me to forgive this.
Smoky Jack
07-17-12, 07:03
After two great days at Oase, I went to Palace. Nice layout, much more conducive to checking out all the chicks without too much hassle. The hard sell at Oase makes it hard to just sit and decide on a target. The raised bar is a great vantage point. I went on a Friday Night and there was a nice bevy of girls. Not on par with Oase but nice enough. Plenty of guys but not so much that you had trouble getting the girl you want. My first session was with Jessica, a Colombian brunette. 5' 5", brunette, cute face 7/10. Great lean body with nice B+ naturals. Talked about what I like (dfk, GFE) and she said she liked that. Not the hottest girl but great personality. Thought "WTF" and went to a room. Nice rooms BTW. She delivered as promised with a sweet GFE performance. I extended to an hour and had a great time. Her face had some blemishes up close, and that prevented a repeat. Great session though.
After some nice food I hung out drinking beer for a bit then went for a smoke. Two babes sat down next to me and got out a cig. I lit the cig of the girl next to me and just chilled. Her friend left and we started to chat. Her name was Yanita, a bulgarian. I had kind of written her off from a distance earlier because she has bolt-ons but up close she was amazingly beautiful. Incredible hazel eyes and full juicy tender lips. Model level. Amazing ass too. Semi-hard bolt ons, which I tolerated LOL. Another good session only marred by the lack of true dfk. Looks 9, Service 8. No repeat due to lack of dfk.
Ate again and went to the bar. I had seen this girl earlier, a tall, lithe, long curly haired, olive skinned lass. She caught my interest again, and I was staring at her from my vantage point at the bar into the smoking room which is surrounded by glass. Turns out she is a heavy smoker LOL. When she and her friend were done, they were walking up the stairs by the bar and I made and maintained eye contact with her. She smiled and came over. Her name was Jenny. 24 yo, half Greek half German. From Berlin. She has been at palace for two years, coming intermittently. Fucking jackpot. The softest skin, gorgeous face, amazing feminine, lithe body. An olive complexion with green eyes. I went to a room with her without any negotiations. I didn't care, she is that hot. Once in this nice room with low neon blue lighting, she said that full GFE with dfk and DATY / etc. Was an extra 50E. I was thinking that this is a huge bargain compared to what it costs at home. So I said I wanted 1 hour. This was the most insane experience I have ever had in the hobby. Incredible dfk, BBBJ, multiple positions with a wild cg, finish and then a nice mutual massage. She was a great masseuse and appreciated what I told her would be "groping" rather than a massage LOL. Looks 10. Service 10+. Repeat? Every chance I get.
Went back to the hotel very happy, except I was thinking I should have gone longer with Jenny. I still had money left! Alas how much fucking can one guy really do? Dammit I should have gone longer!
London Traveller
07-17-12, 23:56
That's a rather strange comment. One could infer that you are stating that the only way to get decent service out of the best looking girls there is to pay them something above the standard rate. That is not my experience.Not at all. I'd like to meet up with you as well, so I can see how you do it.
It seems clear to me that if London Traveller wants to pay extra for sex services, especially from one of the hottest girls in the Palace (Luana is at least top 5 imo) , that is his prerogative. His money, his choice. He willingly revealed that information to readers seeking a realistic report, knowing full well that he may well be interrogated by critical mongers.
There are many guys who pay extra at Palace, knowing full well the official FKK prices, for a variety of motives. Pimps for example pay extra, presumably to initiate psychological entrapment. Other guys just pay double or triple for the time, thinking they get better service that way, and for them paying extra is just another way to cum on the girl, a moneyshot so to speak. I am not saying London Traveller is one of these guys, though maybe he wouldn't mind being a pimp. I know I wouldn't =) What an easy job: stealing from wh0res and keeping your biceps buff!
However, personally, I like to pay standard rates. But I am aware there are many girls who consider these rates insufficient and below the true market value of sex (though one may equally make the case the real value is lower than the FKK club-unit) , and there are and always will be guys who like to turn paysex into a money game. So these are the difficult waters in which the monger has to navigate, make his choices. It is wise to take advice from ISG, it is equally wise to deviate from the set and fast opinions of the so-called experts on the board, who are not always right, or have reasons to maintain a code of conduct contrary to reality. We need not all be DFK-for-€50 hard-liners.
Many will disagree with this post, and I respectfully ask that you ignore it if you do. My only aim is that we curtail our scrutiny of other mongers' financial practices. In some cases, it's nice to tell a guy he got ripped off, so he knows better next time. In other cases, the criticism is not so productive and does in fact amount to a personal attack, however much it disguise itself as inquiry.
Also, it's 2012. Many of the criticisms, directly or indirectly, leveled at London Traveller ('What did you pay? ' or 'Why did you pay extra? ') can be found practically verbatim in posts from years past. No need for repetition at this point in history. Furthermore, London Traveller has also made reports on the Palace in the past, giving it a less-than-enthusiastic appraisal. So on the present occasion he was clearly in his judgment compromising with the reality of things at the Palace.
In general, we need to temper our criticism of people who actually report, otherwise we staunch the flow of information onto the board. The cost of rigidly adhering to a financial ideology would of course be the loss of fresh information, for as a rule those who criticize most precisely report the least, if at all. Also, since the percentage of mongers who read boards is small, driving people from this board with whom we disagree, will have no effect on the market or attitudes of the girls.
Smoky Jack
07-18-12, 07:04
Not at all. I'd like to meet up with you as well, so I can see how you do it.I paid 50E extra for DFK / DATY / GFE+ service for a 1 hour session, total 150E. Mindblowing experience. Worth every euro and whatever other smaller denominations you spoiled bastards use. This girl would be a millionaire in the US. Please don't tell me how much I should pay.
It seems an obvious thing that people can pay what they want; but all this willingness to overpay does screw things up for other mongers. Especially tourists (I'm quite sure London Traveler doesn't fir this description BTW) that first ask a whole lot of questions on this board, and than bust their bankroll in a single weekend, are in essence punishing the regulars that were so kind to provide info (the Hessen Bubs of ISG). Palace is already out of the question for me and if my last visits are anything to go by, Oase is quickly following. If you think the marketprice of sex is higher than 50, that might only be the case in the 'distorted' market of Fankfurt, in NRW it is clearly lower than 50 (cheaper longer sessions, Acapulco).
Sorry I did not report on my last trip, but I am looking forward to the next one.
This line by London Traveller got me thinking.
"Afterwards she gripped me close as we passed through the lounge again. Anyone looking at us would have thought she was the full GFE."
What if we all agree that, as we return form the room with the girl on the way to the lockers, we all hold up a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" sign for all to see?
Surely at that moment is when you feel the most satisfied or disappointed by the experience. Why wait until you get to your computer?
If a few of the regulars start doing it, the not-so regulars and the novices will soon pick it up.
It would have an immediate effect on the quality of service.
Bacon Sandwich
07-18-12, 16:11
It seems an obvious thing that people can pay what they want; but all this willingness to overpay does screw things up for other mongers. Especially tourists . If you think the marketprice of sex is higher than 50, that might only be the case in the 'distorted' market of Fankfurt, in NRW it is clearly lower than 50 (cheaper longer sessions, Acapulco).I totally agree with Free Dude. In fact, I just posted in the "German Border" section of the Netherlands board about my experiences at Yin Yang, which have been on the upswing while Frankfurt area clubs are getting worse and worse. I just went to Palace last month, and I'm sorry to say it's probably the last time I'll go there, at least until I hear it gets better. I could not find a single girl in four hours of trying that even pretended to give a shit for 50 euros. Every single one of them upsold repeatedly, even aggressively, once in the room. Every. Single. One. Seriously, it was almost as bad as being in a RLD. I DO think this is because so many tourists go to Palace, which is close to the city center, get what they can't get in their home countries, and start dropping cash like they suddenly don't have a brain. So the girls start thinking everyone's a sucker, are disappointed when you're not, and the service suffers.
The best way to deal with that shit is to avoid it, so I'll stick to NRW and especially my beloved Yin Yang for the foreseeable future.
I DO think this is because so many tourists go to Palace, which is close to the city center, get what they can't get in their home countries, and start dropping cash like they suddenly don't have a brain. So the girls start thinking everyone's a sucker, are disappointed when you're not, and the service suffers.Not sure what you mean by tourist, but I guess it's got to do with frequency with which one visits fkks.
Visiting FKK's every 1. 5/2 months makes me a tourist? Probably yes.
This said, I find your way of describing "tourists" quite arrogant or at least unpolite.
Well, as a tourist, I generally go for 1hr sessions anyways. In my last 2 visits at Palace (I normally go to Berlin) I didn't experience what you are reporting, this was in may and June. I had a couple of 30min. Sessions, which I enjoyed a lot, and didn't get any particular pressure on doing longer sessions or paying more.
On the first of those visits, I was there with a friend that is very strict about having 30min plain vanilla sessions and he had a great time.
So, I don't think it's just the club or the girls.
Kimino
It seems clear to me that if London Traveller wants to pay extra for sex services, especially from one of the hottest girls in the Palace (Luana is at least top 5 imo) , that is his prerogative. His money, his choice. He willingly revealed that information to readers seeking a realistic report, knowing full well that he may well be interrogated by critical mongers.
There are many guys who pay extra at Palace, knowing full well the official FKK prices, for a variety of motives. Pimps for example pay extra, presumably to initiate psychological entrapment. Other guys just pay double or triple for the time, thinking they get better service that way, and for them paying extra is just another way to cum on the girl, a moneyshot so to speak. I am not saying London Traveller is one of these guys, though maybe he wouldn't mind being a pimp. I know I wouldn't =) What an easy job: stealing from wh0res and keeping your biceps buff!I never heard for pimps to go to the room. The pimps sit and watch the girls, you see them often in the Palast. For this, the girls make a bit show for the pimps, when it seems like they are agressive selling, sometimes its for this. The pimps want the girls first to love them and later to pay them. Go to the room would be very bad for this I think. Is very big money for these guys, like another guy says here, can be a quarter million a year easy and no tax.
Hessen Bub
07-18-12, 20:17
As long as the girls make a difference between locals (Germans) and regulars and provide good service for standard pricing to us, I don't care what you pay, how you let yourself get ripped-off. And 100€/30min to get DFK and GFE is a rip-off in Hessen clubs. Period.
I've seen girls charging Italians, Chinese, Americans etc. 500€/1h no extras, telling me, pointing out these guys and laughing their ass off. Then I took them for the room for standard rates and excellent service. If you support this. Your money. It's you the girls are laughing about.
If it does affect me when I go clubbing (and it does at Palace) , I do care. And I avoid the club. Like Palace. Or I am getting selective about the girls I choose.
HB
LOL. Many of the Dutch GT folks definition of the "Tourists" are one that visit their RLD and they drive 2 hours from Amsterdam to the nearest FKK.
You're a pro if you know how to get to an FKK club.
Not sure what you mean by tourist, but I guess it's got to do with frequency with which one visits fkks.
Visiting FKK's every 1. 5/2 months makes me a tourist? Probably yes.
This said, I find your way of describing "tourists" quite arrogant or at least unpolite.
Well, as a tourist, I generally go for 1hr sessions anyways. In my last 2 visits at Palace (I normally go to Berlin) I didn't experience what you are reporting, this was in may and June. I had a couple of 30min. Sessions, which I enjoyed a lot, and didn't get any particular pressure on doing longer sessions or paying more.
On the first of those visits, I was there with a friend that is very strict about having 30min plain vanilla sessions and he had a great time.
So, I don't think it's just the club or the girls.
Kimino
Smoky Jack
07-18-12, 21:20
As long as the girls make a difference between locals (Germans) and regulars and provide good service for standard pricing to us, I don't care what you pay, how you let yourself get ripped-off. And 100€/30min to get DFK and GFE is a rip-off in Hessen clubs. Period.
I've seen girls charging Italians, Chinese, Americans etc. 500€/1h no extras, telling me, pointing out these guys and laughing their ass off. Then I took them for the room for standard rates and excellent service. If you support this. Your money. It's you the girls are laughing about.
If it does affect me when I go clubbing (and it does at Palace) , I do care. And I avoid the club. Like Palace. Or I am getting selective about the girls I choose.
HBI think the cat is already out of the bag for Palace. The frequent upcharge for dfk or the requirement for a 1 hour session for GFE at Palace has been well documented. I had a mixed experiences at Palace. But I usually opt for 1 hour sessions anyway unless the girl tries upselling in the room. One girl did full on GFE for the standard rate. The next, was not quite GFE but close-more lfk than dfk but still a very nice BBBJ. The last girl charged me 50E extra for GFE but there was no way I was going to say no and I am glad I didn't-she provided one of the top two sessions in my pooning career. I'm still bummed I could not see her again the next day.
It is market forces at work and no amount of protesting is going to make a bit of difference. We make up a tiny fraction of the pooning world. Girls will ask for more money until they start making less money by doing so. We will seek cheaper / higher value venues when the demands reach our limit. HB, it is hard to see something get more expensive, but of course I remember the days of 5 dollar lap dances in the states for high mileage in the mid 90's and now they are asking for 40 in some cases. I rarely go to strip clubs now, and the ones in California are generally hurting. This FKK bubble will not last forever, we should all enjoy while we still can. Very few people in the States, for example, know about FKK's. Even experienced mongers don't really know. Eventually the word will get out and the prices will rise even more. My 2 cents.
Globalnomad5
07-19-12, 17:53
. This FKK bubble will not last forever, we should all enjoy while we still can. Very few people in the States, for example, know about FKK's. Even experienced mongers don't really know. Eventually the word will get out and the prices will rise even more. My 2 cents.Why is it a bubble? Prostitution has been tolerated and / or legal in Frankfurt since the middle ages. German culture is rather tolerant of such things and has no history of regulating consensual personal behavior (with some obvious but brief exceptions). Unlike certain other countries.
Prices, as always, will be determined by market forces, and given the economic turmoil in Europe, are just as likely to go down as up.
I was in this club several times the last months. I like it very much, and I am very sad no more to be there, maybe next year.
Janita was at the beginning good, and I think have sometimes fun, maybe sometimes she takes a line I think (not with me) , but seemed to me the last time very tired. Still a good girl.
Kati is terrible avoid her, almost I complain but too lazy. Still angry for this girl.
Jacky is the best girl in club for me, get her at the end of the night and have much fun. In club she stand over me in her skirt and put the end of my dick in her pussy.
The other names I don't remember so well.
I like to read here and remember good times thanks.
Smoky Jack
07-19-12, 20:51
Why is it a bubble? Prostitution has been tolerated and / or legal in Frankfurt since the middle ages. German culture is rather tolerant of such things and has no history of regulating consensual personal behavior (with some obvious but brief exceptions). Unlike certain other countries.
Prices, as always, will be determined by market forces, and given the economic turmoil in Europe, are just as likely to go down as up.All you need is a run of antibiotic resistant STD's to make officials clamp down. Or, as I mentioned earlier, if more mongers find out about FKK's then the demand will be much greater, leading to higher prices. You could argue that this has already happened at Palace. The main point is that nothing lasts forever, and the FKK scene is unlikely to get better than it is now. Enjoy it while you can.
Hessen Bub
07-19-12, 21:45
HB, it is hard to see something get more expensive, but of course I remember the days of 5 dollar lap dances in the states for high mileage in the mid 90's and now they are asking for 40 in some cases. I rarely go to strip clubs now, and the ones in California are generally hurting. This FKK bubble will not last forever, we should all enjoy while we still can. Very few people in the States, for example, know about FKK's. Even experienced mongers don't really know. Eventually the word will get out and the prices will rise even more. My 2 cents.That's not the point. If the prices were rising to 100 EUR officially. Ok, that's it. But they are not. Go to Oase, World, Sharks, Sakura, GoldenTime etc. And you will get the described service for 50 EUR, the standard rate. That's the point. My 2 cents.
HB
Catmouse123
07-19-12, 23:54
Please see my posted report of the comparison of the two clubs in the Oase section.
Smoky Jack
07-20-12, 01:14
That's not the point. If the prices were rising to 100 EUR officially. Ok, that's it. But they are not. Go to Oase, World, Sharks, Sakura, GoldenTime etc. And you will get the described service for 50 EUR, the standard rate. That's the point. My 2 cents.
HBI was at Oase for two days prior, so I know of what you speak. Two of the girls I had sessions with at Oase were upselling like crazy too. The first girl I went with gave me dfk and bbj in the kino, then essentially demanded cim / anal in the room. I said no and her attitude went down the loo. I left after 10 minutes. Another girl did not like the idea of doing a straight 30 min session, so I told her I would do an hour if she gave good service. I know from reading the boards that these types of incidents are not unusual, especially for foreigners / newbs, even at Oase. You are an experienced fkk monger so a) you know which girls are good be) you know which types are going to upsell and see) you are known by the girls and they know you will be back so they will be less inclined to upcharge. For people like me, however, palace and oase are not that different. Just realize that your experience may not be the same as everyone else's. It's not like we are ASKING the girls to charge us more. Or to upsell in the room. No doubt next time I will be a little wiser, but do not blame the "tourist" for paying more for more service. When I realized that I could be with Jenny (half greek / half german) who in my book is a 10, for an hour with all the trimmings for 150E, I was pretty happy about it. And she delivered the goods and more. To me, paying an extra 50 for dfk / GFE is no worse than the guy who pays 50E for CIM or 100E for anal. I would rather make out with a girl for 30min or an hour while fukking her than come in her mouth for 10 seconds at the end. But everyone is different. I do agree that prices should be standardized, but let's face it this is prostitution, not shopping at a department store.
Maybe I have a different definition of "upselling" than that used by others here. I have always thought that "upselling" was any attempt to demand a greater charge than warranted for a service. When a woman offers me other services, even services which I have never even hinted I might be interested in, I don't see that as "upselling". If I am interested in those services, I have no problem saying. "Yes, I would like to do that". If I am not interested, I have no problem saying. "No, I do not want to do that."
Am I the only one who sees "upselling" this way?
I ALWAYS tell the girl beforehand exactly what I want and what we will be doing and,"Is that okay?". Well my Deutsche is bad but many I go with understand me. I tell them point blank I do NOT do anal. Is that OK?
I want CIM or I do not want CIM (especially 2nd and 3rd daily sessions where I have trouble cumming). If I like a girl I always take 1 hour. If unsure I say point blank "We will start with 30 minutes and then if I really like you I will go an hour OR MORE."
If they get in the room and start whining or trying to change the terms of my rental contract I have no problem walking out. If it flies, floats or fucks I am renting it exactly how I want it!
I really liked FKK World. I love Artemis and I thought Oase was nice and I have only had to walk out on a girl once.
Burma Jones
07-20-12, 17:00
It seems an obvious thing that people can pay what they want; but all this willingness to overpay does screw things up for other mongers.But wouldn't it be true that if certain girls only wait for the big haul of a newbee who doesn't know better than to pay 500E per hour, she would sit around for days without business? The word would get out to the regulars and she would have to comply with published prices for their service or price herself out of the business. Granted, I do feel sorry for anyone who might fall into this trap but I also don't walk into an environment without a cursory knowledge of prices and accepted protocol. That's their loss for no doing their homework; I mean how did they find out about the club anyway without also finding out about prices, especially when most clubs at the front door advise you as you are paying?
Sure, and frankly, I don't really mind if a girl finds an 'enthousiast' once in a while and makes a butt load of cash easily. The problem is when a certain critical mass in number of 'overpayers' is reached. One could argue this is already the case in Palace, where girls apparently feel they are better off waiting for someone who goes with her for at least an hour (or pays extra for DFK). Given the number of non-Germans (I'm one of them by the way) I saw in Oase the last couple of times, and the service limitations I encountered (before I never saw this) , it seems Oase may be going in the same direction. With a big emphasis on the word 'may'.
You see a similar trend in clubs near the Dutch border (especially GT) , where many guys apparently don't mind paying 100 an hour, which leads to more and more girls asking for this price. You see that the clubs that have stiff price control (like Bernds and Babylon, where you pay when you leave the club) or that rely heavily on locals, have a lot less of this kind of thing.
When girls. Especially popular ones. Get enough people that fall for these bits, they are more likely to stick to alternatively pricing systems. The very regulars might be able to get around this, but for regular club visitors that only come to Hessen once every few months, we get dealt the same hand as Messe visitors. But as HB said, even he doesn't get around it in Palace.
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