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I can't emphasize NC philosophy more. There a higher chance the girls being themself and treating you like a friend.
If you go into a room demanding XYZ for 50. Higher chance she'll treat you like another number.
That is for sure! You play the game well, be smart, be nice, be fun that increases your chances a lot, just like in the real world dating game.
Nille Copenhagen
09-28-13, 01:51
I can't emphasize NC philosophy more. There a higher chance the girls being themself and treating you like a friend.
If you go into a room demanding XYZ for 50. Higher chance she'll treat you like another number.I'm glad some guys are sharing my view, and I'm shaved down under too, the balls looks clean and delicious and the girls tend to lick them without me asking for it.
Furthermore I do tell girls about my experiences in Gangbangs and Swingerclubs, I can tell them about lots of kinky shit, some girls looked at me in disbelieve. Of course I'm not starting the conversation like this but if sex is a talkable subject I can steer the conversation towards this. I probably have more sex experiences in some areas than the girls, this makes some girls curious. LOL
I don't want to be proud, but I do get the girls personal contacts on a first session if we clicked.
Does this happens to you guys also?
Hessen Bub
09-28-13, 08:24
I can't emphasize NC philosophy more. There a higher chance the girls being themself and treating you like a friend.
If you go into a room demanding XYZ for 50. Higher chance she'll treat you like another number.Part 1. Yes.
Part 2. No. At Palace usually it's the girls telling you what they do for 50. Or what they demand for a good session (there's the "economy class = 50/30min and business class = 100/30min"-girls). Palace has become tourist trap. If somebody get's 25 great sessions at Palace in a row they must either have been way more expensive than 50/30min or he doesn't expect too much from a session. And maybe I am just spoiled after a dozen years of clubbing. If you habe experienced "wedding nights" with the most beautiful girls in German FKKs. Why bother to get ripped of at Palace? Palace 6-7 years ago was a great club. Those times are long gone.
HB
Part 1. Yes.
Part 2. No. At Palace usually it's the girls telling you what they do for 50. Or what they demand for a good session (there's the "economy class = 50/30min and business class = 100/30min"-girls). Palace has become tourist trap. If somebody get's 25 great sessions at Palace in a row they must either have been way more expensive than 50/30min or he doesn't expect too much from a session. And maybe I am just spoiled after a dozen years of clubbing. If you habe experienced "wedding nights" with the most beautiful girls in German FKKs. Why bother to get ripped of at Palace? Palace 6-7 years ago was a great club. Those times are long gone.
HBThink I agreeing with NC, Simex and HB here in that its not smart to be negotiating with a girl exactly what services she will provide for what money before the session.
Joking around and having fun with the girl is more productive, then take whatever services she is happy to offer. Best sessions never started with a negotiation. When the girl tries to start down that path, I just remind her (if she thought I was a newbie) I have been doing FKK for years and know the prices very well. Then if she wants to persist, it might be time to move on.
I used to enjoy the Palace up to about 3 years ago, and tend to agree it's heyday was well before that. Probably I was more easily pleased back then.
Nille Copenhagen
09-28-13, 15:19
Part 1. Yes.
Part 2. No. At Palace usually it's the girls telling you what they do for 50. Or what they demand for a good session (there's the "economy class = 50/30min and business class = 100/30min"-girls). Palace has become tourist trap. If somebody get's 25 great sessions at Palace in a row they must either have been way more expensive than 50/30min or he doesn't expect too much from a session. And maybe I am just spoiled after a dozen years of clubbing. If you habe experienced "wedding nights" with the most beautiful girls in German FKKs. Why bother to get ripped of at Palace? Palace 6-7 years ago was a great club. Those times are long gone.
HBHB I'm curious where can you get the "wedding nights" for 50 in Hessen?
I got couch time. 30min with kiss, DATY, BJ and multipos sex, is that not good enough for 50 I'm very satisfied. Some girls even came back and sat on my lap after the session with a cola. So it's not impossible, but not easy either. Then again maybe I'm just lucky (Get lucky song.). Some members who knows me have probably witnessed this. So with all respect HB it's possible. We can meet up at Palace some day.
Hessen Bub
09-29-13, 11:19
Good for you. I did get the service described at Palace, but I do relate that to being a regular and known guest. As are you. Soe for newbies Palace might be a disappointment. Or maybe not if you come from places where a lap dance with "don't touch this!" Is more than 50.
HB
Solo Traveler
09-29-13, 14:53
Here's a related tip: shave your pubic hair if you are not already in the habit of doing so."Sorry, I have a question.
Does "shave your pubic hair" means shaving the pubic hair like shaving beard with the beard razor?
(I'm an Asian man, and Asian people usually use scissors to cut pubic hair short instead of shaving them all off.)
Is it necessary to shave the pubic hair all off? Can I just use scissors to cut pubic hair short?
Nille Copenhagen
09-29-13, 16:31
Good for you. I did get the service described at Palace, but I do relate that to being a regular and known guest. As are you. Soe for newbies Palace might be a disappointment. Or maybe not if you come from places where a lap dance with "don't touch this!" Is more than 50.
HBHB,
If you are a regular at Palace then you have also invested lots of money to get the good service. LOL.
I'm not a regular at Palace, I'm not a newbie either, I been at Palace many times though.
It sounds like you are trying to scare of newbies from Palace, I would rather say don't be scared, it's possible
To get nice session for 50! Be firm and smart, remember the girls are sexy business women, but I'm a business man too. LOL
UltraHappy
09-29-13, 17:18
Sorry, I have a question.
Does "shave your pubic hair" means shaving the pubic hair like shaving beard with the beard razor?
(I'm an Asian man, and Asian people usually use scissors to cut pubic hair short instead of shaving them all off.)
Is it necessary to shave the pubic hair all off? Can I just use scissors to cut pubic hair short?No, don't use a razor. Too easy to cut yourself and you don't want to risk that. Remember the skin down there is even more delicate than elsewhere. Any cuts you have increase the risk of infections.
Don't use scissors either. That makes the hair ends very sharp and will cause irritation to your partner.
Instead, use a hair trimmer, like the beard trimmer shown here:
http://www.amazon.com/Conair-GMT189GB-13-Piece-All-In-One-Grooming/dp/B002N5N3FE/ref=sr_1_3?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1380471276&sr=1-3
(
http://amzn.to/1dQz0Jp
)
Put one of the small guards and trim that stuff down like you're mowing a lawn."Manscaping" = "man landscaping"
Hessen Bub
09-29-13, 17:41
Why not shave? I do shave. Use this, it's just great and won't give you any irritation:
http://www.wilkinson.de/frauen/plantfortheplanet.html
The smoother you are (face,"down there") , the better the service.
HB
Hessen Bub
09-29-13, 17:43
Palace: Yes, I spent a lot of money there. Years ago. Not to get better service. To fuck georgous women with great service. Like I still do at other clubs.
HB
Banana Boi
09-29-13, 19:13
Service and sharkiness aside, are the girls at Palace facially prettier than World / Oase / Sharks / Mainhattan?
What % of Palace girls have fakes?
Hessen Bub
09-29-13, 19:16
No, girls are not prettier. They are older (in average). And more than 1/3 do have silly cones.
HB
Finnish Fucker
09-29-13, 19:26
Palace: Yes, I spent a lot of money there. Years ago. Not to get better service. To fuck georgous women with great service. Like I still do at other clubs.
HBI have spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best-
-Kepp
Hessen Bub
09-29-13, 19:34
You forgot to quote George Best. But right he was.
HB
No, girls are not prettier. They are older (in average). And more than 1/3 do have silly cones.
HBJust to add to Hessen Bub's assessment. There are just more blondes at Palace, if that is your thing. Stick to tough negotiating and you'll be fine.
FiddyCent
Finnish Fucker
09-29-13, 19:44
You forgot to quote George Best. But right he was.
HBCheers, corrected!
-K
Nille Copenhagen
09-29-13, 19:51
Just to add to Hessen Bub's assessment. There are just more blondes at Palace, if that is your thing. Stick to tough negotiating and you'll be fine.
FiddyCentCorrect, I had never any problem finding girls. How many girls do you need?
PussyLiccker
09-29-13, 20:24
There is a German blond green eyed Model type girl name Stella at Palace. She is probably top 4 hottest girls I've seen in a club so far. She asks for 100 euros for better than 50 euro service, which is still the same half hour of mechanical sex. I would have respect for you if you can get her to DFK for 50e. I personally think Palace girls has the best bodies close to GT, but the service level at 50e puts me off.
Nille, tell me you got a good service with a hot girl for 50e. It's pretty meaningless you can get that from a dog there. I've had some passionate 50e sessions there, but it's so damn rare. One thing I've noticed is that if you keep rejecting a girl and she's persistent, sometimes it could be a sign she may give you good service in the room. I've rejected this Brazilian girl all night and finally at the end I took her, and she pretty much let me do anything I wanted. Some of them are so persistent, they get pissed off and drink vodka and keep trying. Girls take rejections pretty well there, and for this club the strategy is reject them many times and when their ***** shield is down ask them to do all kinds of shit for 50e. They play games, we play games. At Palace, it serves them right given how much they rip off tourists.
There is a German blond green eyed Model type girl name Stella at Palace. She is probably top 4 hottest girls I've seen in a club so far. She asks for 100 euros for better than 50 euro service, which is still the same half hour of mechanical sex. I would have respect for you if you can get her to DFK for 50e. I personally think Palace girls has the best bodies close to GT, but the service level at 50e puts me off.
Nille, tell me you got a good service with a hot girl for 50e. It's pretty meaningless you can get that from a dog there. I've had some passionate 50e sessions there, but it's so damn rare. One thing I've noticed is that if you keep rejecting a girl and she's persistent, sometimes it could be a sign she may give you good service in the room. I've rejected this Brazilian girl all night and finally at the end I took her, and she pretty much let me do anything I wanted. Some of them are so persistent, they get pissed off and drink vodka and keep trying. Girls take rejections pretty well there, and for this club the strategy is reject them many times and when their * shield is down ask them to do all kinds of shit for 50e. They play games, we play games. At Palace, it serves them right given how much they rip off tourists.That is a great plan PussyLiccker! The best results I achieved from Palace girls is to reject their first advance. You just need to give them some lame excuse. When they come back for a second time, you tell them you want a really great session, with the potential of earning a full hour with extras. That way both sides are happy. It is rare to get a good 50 Euro session, but not impossible if you play it right. Most times, I wind up extending to 1 hour.
FiddyCent
Nille Copenhagen
09-29-13, 20:55
Nille, tell me you got a good service with a hot girl for 50e. It's pretty meaningless you can get that from a dog there. I've had some passionate 50e sessions there, but it's so damn rare. One thing I've noticed is that if you keep rejecting a girl and she's persistent, sometimes it could be a sign she may give you good service in the room. I've rejected this Brazilian girl all night and finally at the end I took her, and she pretty much let me do anything I wanted. Some of them are so persistent, they get pissed off and drink vodka and keep trying. Girls take rejections pretty well there, and for this club the strategy is reject them many times and when their ***** shield is down ask them to do all kinds of shit for 50e. They play games, we play games. At Palace, it serves them right given how much they rip off tourists.I'm used to the top girls at GT so why should I go for dogs at Palace. The Palace girls will try upsell and rip off game depending on who you are, how you react, how confident, how desperate you are, each man has his own gameplay, so it difficult to give guidelines. Persistent girls are not always a bad thing, you have to play hard to get. I do speak some German which I find give an advantage in many cases.
Hessen Bub
09-29-13, 21:11
But why bother if you can just avoid Palace and visit World, Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan instead?
Hb
Nille Copenhagen
09-29-13, 21:12
That is a great plan PussyLiccker! The best results I achieved from Palace girls is to reject their first advance. You just need to give them some lame excuse. When they come back for a second time, you tell them you want a really great session, with the potential of earning a full hour with extras. That way both sides are happy. It is rare to get a good 50 Euro session, but not impossible if you play it right. Most times, I wind up extending to 1 hour.
FiddyCentYou are also right, I tell them I might be interested in extending if the first 30 min is great, with a declaim if it we don't have right the chemistry I would end at 30min. Sometime I popped in for a short visit due business reasons or stopovers, I looked her deeply in the eyes, kindly let her know I only have 30min for her, so she have to give me a blast or I would not go with her. Be kind and firm.
Nille Copenhagen
09-29-13, 21:16
But why bother if you can just avoid Palace and visit World, Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan instead?
HbI can only answer for myself.
Because I have a thing for sharky and skanky girls. LOL.
I just love the game and challenges. I get bored if the girls are too easy, also in real life, that is just me.
Cheers,
NC
PussyLiccker
09-29-13, 21:30
But why bother if you can just avoid Palace and visit World, Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan instead?
Hb1. You don't frequent Palace often, so there are girls you haven't tried.
2. You are attracted to the way Palace girls look.
From what I've witnessed, Palace has the highest number of optifucks. Oase used to have a good variety (including stunners at times) , but lately I haven't seen that. Mainhatten has a smaller line-up, and only a handful that stands out as lookers, and the attractive girls give you good service for 50. As far as Sharks, I will get back to yall after my trip. I'm not a fan of World, I just don't feel attracted to the Romanian anorexic look with saggy tits.
Artemis is too, you can always find someone that has the looks you are looking for, but it's a professional atmasphere like Palace with higher rates with slightly better service. It's difficult to plan a trip that includes Artemis since it's the only decent club in Berlin, and most clubs are in NRW or FRA.
Also, given that previous post talked about alot more blonds there and combining that with majority of girls there having Playboy Model type bodies. I want to see for myself. It's not a club I would frequent because of the service level, but worth a look every so often.
Hessen Bub
09-29-13, 22:07
OK. If you are into older tattoed pierced slutty looking siliconized girls then Palace is the place to be. Similar to Artemis. ;)
HB
OK. If you are into older tattoed pierced slutty looking siliconized girls then Palace is the place to be.
HBCome now, only 50% of them are old, and only 60% are siliconized (well maybe more). However I do agree with the sentiment. Most of the remainder are buffaloes. Actually I am not that keen on too much piercings either. A bit old fashioned. I had to get used to tats as that was all too frequent.
Cute, young, slender but curvy, all natural, tight body, GFE at no extra charge, no taboos. The count is getting really low. The one girl I really liked there (very pretty) this year disappeared quickly.
O.K. though for guys who like 'em big with bolt-ons.
Nille Copenhagen
09-29-13, 22:29
OK. If you are into older tattoed pierced slutty looking siliconized girls then Palace is the place to be. Similar to Artemis. .
HBNot true! When where you at Artemis last time? There lots of natural girls there.
Oase used to have a good variety (including stunners at times) , but lately I haven't seen that.In my opinion the optics or looks of the Oase girls are at a high. Not necessarily a high for performance though. Most of the best lookers are relatively new. Can't think of any real stunners that have left recently, other than Marie and Lena (and not sure if she is really in the stunning category). Ricki also left a long while back but was basically into doing only toothy BJs. Which other good lookers are gone? Karina, Adina. Can't think of much else. Certainly the standard of looks in gazelle bodies is not in decline at Oase. Quite the opposite. A big improvement over the last twelve months in the count of girls that I would like to fuck on each visit, many being girls I want to repeat and quite a few I would like to try.
I guess you must be liking bigger girls with bolt-ons, am I right?
Nille Copenhagen
09-29-13, 23:23
Ricki also left a long while back but was basically into doing only toothy BJs.What! I must disagree totally, Ricky / Ricarda gave me the best sloppy BJs ever (No toothy at all) , for me she was a BJ star!
Is she anywhere to find?
PussyLiccker
09-29-13, 23:30
In my opinion the optics or looks of the Oase girls are at a high. Not necessarily a high for performance though. Most of the best lookers are relatively new. Can't think of any real stunners that have left recently, other than Marie and Lena (and not sure if she is really in the stunning category). Ricki also left a long while back but was basically into doing only toothy BJs. Which other good lookers are gone? Karina, Adina. Can't think of much else. Certainly the standard of looks in gazelle bodies is not in decline at Oase. Quite the opposite. A big improvement over the last twelve months in the count of girls that I would like to fuck on each visit, many being girls I want to repeat and quite a few I would like to try.
I guess you must be liking bigger girls with bolt-ons, am I right?Well, it sounds like we have different tastes and given that you live in Germany, you frequent Oase more than I do. On several trips throughout the year, I've visited Oase on Saturdays only, which I believe is the day that should have the biggest line-up of the week. I've noticed the same girls that has been at Oase since I started going there (from Sep. 2011). There are the ones that started later that I don't find that attractive.
Last year, every Saturday, there would be at least one or two stunners that is new to the club. German Casandra was one, nameless Hungarian model looking type, a German Moroccan girl I never got the name, and some attractive Romanian and Russian girls. They were atleast a 9. I also liked German Lucy, she left. I like the Polish sisters, they left. I'm not into Marie, she is too thin to my liking and get a vibe of lousey service. Now, all I see is the same Romanian gang, with less of the attractive ones. If there are new ones, I really haven't noticed because I don't fancy them. Then again, I look for optifks and seek out good service. I rarely go with the same girl multiple times anymore.
By big if you mean tall, yes. I like girls with a nice shaped ass and shape of the body. Size of the tits as long as they are not sagging is not high on my list. I don't like silicones. Stella does not have silicones, and neither do girls I go with have silicones or old or have tatoos.
Well, it sounds like we have different tastes and given that you live in Germany, you frequent Oase more than I do. On several trips throughout the year, I've visited Oase on Saturdays only, which I believe is the day that should have the biggest line-up of the week. I've noticed the same girls that has been at Oase since I started going there (from Sep. 2011). There are the ones that started later that I don't find that attractive.
Last year, every Saturday, there would be at least one or two stunners that is new to the club. German Casandra was one, nameless Hungarian model looking type, a German Moroccan girl I never got the name, and some attractive Romanian and Russian girls. They were atleast a 9. I also liked German Lucy, she left. I like the Polish sisters, they left. I'm not into Marie, she is too thin to my liking and get a vibe of lousey service. Now, all I see is the same Romanian gang, with less of the attractive ones. If there are new ones, I really haven't noticed because I don't fancy them. Then again, I look for optifks and seek out good service. I rarely go with the same girl multiple times anymore.
By big if you mean tall, yes. I like girls with a nice shaped ass and shape of the body. Size of the tits as long as they are not sagging is not high on my list. I don't like silicones. Stella does not have silicones, and neither do girls I go with have silicones or old or have tatoos.There is a Cassandra at Oase right now, a blonde bombshell but probably not the same one. There have only been a tiny number of true Hungerians like Judith and Sylvia, and they have been there this year. Luisa with hardly any tits is the German / Morrocan. Not generally thought of as a stunner.
Clearly your spec is very different. Stella has a good face but too overweight for me (big ass) and saggy tits. So doubtless most of your lookers at Oase were not lookers to me. Otherwise I would know who all of them were. I was really bored with Oase lineup about this time last year and I would always go on a Saturday for the whole day. I switched to World for a period. So okay most of the new lookers for me are gazelles and probably too skinny for you. There are plenty of new pretty bigger girls at Oase too. If you haven't been recently, you would not know. Its changed dramatically with many new girls in just last 2 to 3 months.
PussyLiccker
09-30-13, 00:45
There is a Cassandra at Oase right now, a blonde bombshell but probably not the same one. There have only been a tiny number of true Hungerians like Judith and Sylvia, and maybe one other, who have been there this year. Luisa with hardly any tits is the German / Morrocan. Not generally thought of as a stunner.
Clearly your spec is very different. Stella has a good face but too overweight for me (big ass) and saggy tits. So doubtless most of your lookers at Oase were not lookers to me. Otherwise I would know who all of them were. I was really bored with Oase lineup about this time last year and I would always go on a Saturday for the whole day. I switched to World for a period. So okay most of the new lookers for me are gazelles and probably too skinny for you. There are plenty of new pretty bigger girls at Oase too. If you haven't been recently, you would not know. Its changed dramatically with many new girls in just last 2 to 3 months.I'll take your word on it, I was there on a Saturday at the last day of August, which happened to be when the World party was going on. Would you say there are some new lookers that showed up since then (non-Romanian types)? And maybe I didn't get a chance to see the new girls on that Saturday. The Hungarian girl's name was Deanna from April. 2012. She came up to Oase for the weekend, she told me she worked at a smaller club south of Stuttgart. She had a normal job doing nails. She was gorgeous. Here is the link.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1275051#post1275051
Louisa is not the German/Moroccan girl I'm referring to. She had a Mediterranean look and had great body and sex appeal, and was a maniac in the room. She told me Murro wanted her to work at Oase, but she didn't seem to get along with the Romanian gang and she must have left.
CheekyDancer
09-30-13, 00:51
Part 1. Yes.
Part 2. No. At Palace usually it's the girls telling you what they do for 50. Or what they demand for a good session (there's the "economy class = 50/30min and business class = 100/30min"-girls). Palace has become tourist trap. If somebody get's 25 great sessions at Palace in a row they must either have been way more expensive than 50/30min or he doesn't expect too much from a session. And maybe I am just spoiled after a dozen years of clubbing. If you habe experienced "wedding nights" with the most beautiful girls in German FKKs. Why bother to get ripped of at Palace? Palace 6-7 years ago was a great club. Those times are long gone.
HBThat pisses me off about Palace. We are just one step away from 100 a 30 minute sessions because of the tourists that are dumb enough to pay that. I'll be fucked if I will ever go there. The management have let this place slip. Business class my arse. The standard should be top dollar regardless. It is not like there is a lack of women willing to work for that kind of money.
PussyLiccker
09-30-13, 01:17
Cassandra (not Casandra) German at Oase back from Sept 2012 even provided rimming service according to Simex. Crazy if it is the same gorgeous German Model looking type I recall. Good times... How things changes.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1327486&highlight=cassandra#post1327486
One thing I've noticed is that if you keep rejecting a girl and she's persistent, sometimes it could be a sign she may give you good service in the room. I've rejected this Brazilian girl all night and finally at the end I took her, and she pretty much let me do anything I wanted.+1.
I not an FKK expert by any stretch of imagination but have my small share of visits to the clubs and THE absolute best experience that I had was with this girl at World whom I kept rejecting the entire night. I finally had to give in once she forced kissed me outside and I HAD TO give in. The rest of was an amazing 90+ minute session.
Does anyone know if the latina girl named Fabiana is still around?
You are also right, I tell them I might be interested in extending if the first 30 min is great, with a declaim if it we don't have right the chemistry I would end at 30min. Sometime I popped in for a short visit due business reasons or stopovers, I looked her deeply in the eyes, kindly let her know I only have 30min for her, so she have to give me a blast or I would not go with her. Be kind and firm.Hello Nille.
I might just try your technique the next time I go there. Sometimes I shake my head at the number of hotties I reject at this club, but I always hold my ground. It is tough to be kind when the girls get annoying, but it seems you have mastered this.
FiddyCent
Nille Copenhagen
09-30-13, 08:00
I seem like we have an eternal discussion about how great or bad the line-up is based on personal taste and preferences.
So can we really trust or used the line-up updates to plan the next club visits?
My personal opinion is: Not really, I do read the line-up updates as guidelines but I'm not going to plan my visits 100% based on the intel on ISG in general. I know mongers with similar taste like me and I trust those more.
The line up can change from day to day, going to bigger clubs (more girls) maximize the chances of a good line-up, I normally enjoy many clubs on my trip, so if the line up doesn't suit me, I move on to the next club. Rarely the line up is so bad that I can't find at least a few girls to session.
So what's the big fuzz about how great the line up should be, you can't fuck all the girls anyway.
My motto is: There will always be a new bus full of new pretty girls, so if you miss the bus then take the next bus. LOL
Walter White
09-30-13, 18:06
Glad to see a good discussion about different people's vetting process. This is helpful.
I completely agree that just being a nice and friendly guy goes a long way. That's certainly always been my approach anyway.
On a more practical level, I've learned to also look out for the girls that really seem to enjoying themselves. The ones who really engage in lively conversations with the guys, the ones who dance on the stages, the ones who drink, slap other girls asses and is energetic overall. I've found that this energy usually translates into the sessions.
Trying to find that quite wallflower, the overlooked hidden gem has never worked out for me.
And as others have suggested, I try to see the guys reactions right after their sessions. If they look happy. A good bye kiss, chatting afterwards, holding hands . Then that's a plus on the girls column.
Hope this conversation continues with more tips for us newbies.
WW
I'll take your word on it, I was there on a Saturday at the last day of August, which happened to be when the World party was going on. Would you say there are some new lookers that showed up since then (non-Romanian types)?I wasn't in attendance at Oase from mid August to mid Sep, so clearly cannot answer. Away most of the new girls in last 2 months are Romanians, of course. I prefer Romanians. LOL. Not really. My favourite recent girl was a real Hungarian Sylvia (slim). However half of the other girls from Europe are really Romanians anyway. In the end I don't judge a girl based on her country. Its irrelevant. Purely an identification item for those that are not Romanian. There has been a big shortage of black and latin types recently. So I have done some black girls at other clubs. I don't know any of the Polish girls well so I guess they are simply not my type.
I used to be an attender at Palace every week 3-4 years ago, but all my favourite girls left, including all the good Asian girls, and I haven't been able to find much to my specs since. Even Alexis was not that great recently. I preferred her back when her tits were natural. She is now an upsell type too. Of course very few visits this year due to disappointment.
The last memorable girl I had was Kathi, tall cute face blonde and not so slim, at a party night and didn't see her ever again. When its such a struggle to find a girl I would like to fuck, I knew it was time to find a different club with a bigger emphasis on slim natural non aggressive girls. At Oase I can find a dozen girls I want to fuck with no difficulty (Saturday night). Most have arrived only this year.
I used to read a lot of rave reviews about Saskia. I finally met her last year. I thought she was a bit old, ordinary looks, ordinary performance in the room. Nothing to make me even repeat. Definitely no super GFE that I have come to expect.
I take others comments though that it must be that Oase suits my personal taste. I have found the recent World line-ups a little down on early in the year. Attendance is poor by customers too. Its time to try some other Clubs. The greatest stunning girls could be anywhere.
So which clubs are best for black and latin girls?
If you prefer curvier girls, then go with Palace. I am comparing it to Oase and Manhattan (I did not even session there).
Samira. Cute turkish girl, nice shaped body, slim but with a bubble butt. I started in her pussy for a while. She kept trying to get me to do anal, so I went with it. After her riding me anal for less than a minute, she stuck it in her pussy. I told her I wanted to finish in her ass and she complained that it hurt. I told her then I am not paying 100 extra euros and she said I already stuck it in. I started getting upset and she finally caved in and let me stick her ass again. Would not repeat but she kept trying to repeat with me on my next visit. When will these ladies learn that good service goes a long way?
Domenick. Plump and curvy french girl. She has a bit of an attitude in the way she talks, almost like a dominatrix. I liked it. Session was good, but she started complaining that my dick was hurting her in doggystyle. Not a big deal. Would repeat.
The last girl I forgot her name but she's a plump and curvy redheaded Russian. Very nice and service was great. Overall the best session. Only I wish she was open to anal. She has a very nice bubble butt.
I was pleasantly surprised by Palace. Of course there are girls that upsell and constantly try to get you in the room but I found that is the case in the other clubs I went to. The food was excellent and the place is the easiest to get to if you are staying in frankfurt am main.
So which clubs are best for black and latin girls?I only saw a few latinas and blacks in the 4 clubs I went to. If that is your thing I would skip Germany and head to DR or Brazil.
So which clubs are best for black and latin girls?The number of black and Latin girls have been well down at Oase recently, I saw only Patrizia (Bra) , Ilona (Ven) and Cindy (Gha or Jam?) recently. Half a dozen others seem to be away (Gabriella, Diana, Titziana?, Jamilla, Eva, Luna, the Tina Turner sisters, and some Kenyan try-outs etc.). World has a fabulous slim black girl in Lia from Cuba, but just the one. Sharks has at least 4 black girls including Daisy (Gha) and Anisha (Jam). Palace usually has a few black girls.
Hi,
I always get the best service from Latinas at Palace.
I also wish that there were black girls there.
I just think I've seen a black girl one time ever at palace
I'm coming next Saturday and hope there are many Latinas that I can fuck public!
BL
Hi,
I always get the best service from Latinas at Palace.
I also wish that there were black girls there.
I just think I've seen a black girl one time ever at palace
I'm coming next Saturday and hope there are many Latinas that I can fuck public!
BLWhat do you mean by "wish there were black girls there"? Are they all gone including Alice (Dom). There used to be plenty, last time I visited. Perhaps you call them Latinas, as they are not quite jet black? Just how black do you want? There are no Nubians there.
My wingman and I had just made an unprecedented 2nd visit to Bernd's in the same tour! Got to luv that club. But now it was Tuesday, my last full day in Germany. I had an early flight out the next day, so I didn't want too late a night on Tuesday. So I decided not to accompany my wingman a fourth time to Oase. I felt I had done Mainhatten and didn't really want to return. That left two options: Palace and the massage parlour scene. The RLD's held no interest to me: too many stairs, and if you didn't negotiate it, you don't get it.
Palace was the major tourist club in Frankfurt, full of silicone, some of the most beautiful women and a must for Messe visitors. But there was no Messe on, so the club shouldn't be too crowded. However, as a tourist destination, it was also known as a 'sharky' club: women wanted a fast buck, rather than building a customer base. But I felt I could deal with this obstacle.
Hmmm, what to do? So I headed out to Palace first. It is easily reached and after paying my entrance fee (75) , I got a drink at the main bar and checked the scene out. I was surprised, since I am usually hit on before I can get my first drink! Tonight I made it back to a stool outside the smoking room. Then the parade began.
During a lull in the procession I took time out for a sauna session followed by a dip in the pool. But what of the line up? It was stellar. The following are just a few of the name, descriptions that I remembered.
There was: Katy, pretty blonde with an orange belt, Erika also a pretty blonde, from Hungary, sporting an orange corset. Both Ladies were showing healthy C cups, IMO. Then there was Arizou from Iran, with full black curly hair, partially shaved on the right side. She had a black mesh halter. Jeanette had very long black hair and had black stockings on. Katy & Erika had mentioned zimmer but took my deferral well. Arizou & Jeanette never mentioned zimmer, and they also took my deferral well.
In the smoking lounge I met Swenya, a tall blonde Swedish amazon. In talking with her, I determined that Joy, another tall blonde, had finally moved on from Palace. Thinking I might miss Joy, Swenya volunteered that she was much like Joy. Too bad, I thought, you just put yourself on the no-fly list. I felt Joy was one of the more notorious sharks.
But the First Lady I saw as I entered the main lounge was an old favourite, if only I could remember her name. She had wild frizzy blonde hair and a high, scrappy voice, not as sweet as Janey at Oase. Then it hit me: Nicoletta! I had had good times with her in the past, but on this occasion after I said Hello, she was a little too aggressive for me.
It was beginning to look like I had made a mistake coming to Palace. I also met Angelica from Russia with short black hair. She did indeed hang with the Russian contingent, and she claimed to know me. Hmmm, not so sure.
Wrapping up the parade was Dranya of Romania, another tall, beautiful blonde with good bolt ons and a pony tail.
But in the end, it was the somewhat plain Elaina of Bosina who caught my eye, back at the rear of the club. She had no tattoos nor body piercings. She was pleasantly plump with comfortable C's. After a brief interview we were off to the zimmer. Once there the promised kissin was delivered as LFK. Unfortunately I do not recall the DATY, so my interest, this late into the trip, was flagging. About 20 minutes in I decided it was better to preserve what resources I may have, so we called it quits.
Back outside the zimmer I quickly re-encountered Angelina of Egypt. She is a known shark but I have previously had good service for 50. Angelina would remind you she can do better, for more, but I was satisfied.
Confidence on the wain, I was to meet one more temptress: Dilaura, a stunning 35 year old Russian with a black bra and belt. But now I was unsure of myself. I had been rescued 2x already this week. Could Dilaura or some other Palace cutie come to my rescue again?
I tentatively agreed to meet Dilaura after dinner. With that I had a terrific supper. The food there is always good, especially when shared with the Ladies. After the meal I decided to cut my losses at Palace and go with a sure thing at Pam's. But I could not locate Dilaura to advise her. I regretted leaving without speaking to her, since she came across as a nice Lady, but I had to move on.
The activities at Pam's will be noted elsewhere.
Thus ends this Oktoberfest tour.
Part 1. Yes.
Part 2. No. At Palace usually it's the girls telling you what they do for 50. Or what they demand for a good session (there's the "economy class = 50/30min and business class = 100/30min"-girls). Palace has become tourist trap. If somebody get's 25 great sessions at Palace in a row they must either have been way more expensive than 50/30min or he doesn't expect too much from a session. And maybe I am just spoiled after a dozen years of clubbing. If you habe experienced "wedding nights" with the most beautiful girls in German FKKs. Why bother to get ripped of at Palace? Palace 6-7 years ago was a great club. Those times are long gone.
HBHeesen Bob,
I fully agree with you. Palace is a real tourist trap.
Beautiful girls, but bad service and attitude among the girls.
And no possibility to relax at all.
If Palace is so good as many guys here at ISG claim, why are there almost no German men visiting Palace?
Sharks, Mainahattan and Oase are all superior to Palace.
Also the FKK:s in Dόsseldorf area are superior.
There was: Katy, pretty blonde with an orange belt, Erika also a pretty blonde, from Hungary, sporting an orange corset. Both Ladies were showing healthy C cups, IMO. Then there was Arizou from Iran, with full black curly hair, partially shaved on the right side. She had a black mesh halter. Jeanette had very long black hair and had black stockings on. Katy & Erika had mentioned zimmer but took my deferral well. Arizou & Jeanette never mentioned zimmer, and they also took my deferral well.
In the smoking lounge I met Swenya, a tall blonde Swedish amazon. In talking with her, I determined that Joy, another tall blonde, had finally moved on from Palace. Thinking I might miss Joy, Swenya volunteered that she was much like Joy. Too bad, I thought, you just put yourself on the no-fly list. I felt Joy was one of the more notorious sharks.
But the First Lady I saw as I entered the main lounge was an old favourite, if only I could remember her name. She had wild frizzy blonde hair and a high, scrappy voice, not as sweet as Janey at Oase. Then it hit me: Nicoletta! I had had good times with her in the past, but on this occasion after I said Hello, she was a little too aggressive for me.
It was beginning to look like I had made a mistake coming to Palace. I also met Angelica from Russia with short black hair. She did indeed hang with the Russian contingent, and she claimed to know me. Hmmm, not so sure.Even a very positive optimist can struggle to find the talent in both looks and GFE. LOL. At least Nicholetta and Angelica are known reliable performers, even if they might bore us a little, after all these years.
Its hard to believe the tall Amazon is really a Swede. LOL. There was a tall blonde Amazon type at World yesterday with bee-stung lips, but her looks were too much blonde bombshell for me. A bit like Eva Herzigova but not as pretty of course.
Did Katy sound like "Katie" or more like "cutty"? I have been looking for a tallish very pretty blonde, not so skinny all natural, called "Kathi" (sounds like "cutty") since early in the year. That was my one really memorable session at the Palace, I think was St Valentines party or some other party, but failed to find her again.
Hessen Bub
10-06-13, 16:20
Arizou is not former Shirin from Oase by any chance?
Nicoletta and Angelique habe been working at Palace since the day the club opened. And at Atlantis before. They do give good service for the standard FKK prices, no rip-off. But they both have been in the business for over 12 years.
Dilaura from Russia? Not Dilara from Turkey?
HB
Amriptna111
10-06-13, 16:49
Arizou is not former Shirin from Oase by any chance?
HBFrom the hairstyle (ninth element) and ethnicity it does sound like Shirin? Can someone confirm. That is one pornstar in the making.
Arizou is not former Shirin from Oase by any chance?
Dilaura from Russia? Not Dilara from Turkey?
HBArizou is indeed the former Shirin from Oase via Artemis as a in-between stop. Her body is thicker now and does not even come close to her lithesome self from her Oaz days.
Dilaura is Dilara from Turkey. Impressive bolt-ons and toned body for a woman closer to 40. Apparently still puts in the time at the gym.
Both were there last night. Had some small chat with both. Dilara tends to hang out with another long term fixture at Palace, the beautiful Saskia.
Its hard to believe the tall Amazon is really a Swede. LOL. There was a tall blonde Amazon type at World yesterday with bee-stung lips, but her looks were too much blonde bombshell for me. A bit like Eva Herzigova but not as pretty of course.
Did Katy sound like "Katie" or more like "cutty"? I have been looking for a tallish very pretty blonde, not so skinny all natural, called "Kathi" (sounds like "cutty") since early in the year. That was my one really memorable session at the Palace, I think was St Valentines party or some other party, but failed to find her again.Svenja (sp?) is no Swede. She is originally from Latvia but has lived in Germany for some time now.
Kathy pronounces her name as "Kaaathie". Botox-type thick lips? Big round eyes? Tall, model-like body with bleached, platinum blonde hair from Romania.
Svenja (sp?) is no Swede. She is originally from Latvia but has lived in Germany for some time now.
Kathy pronounces her name as "Kaaathie". Botox-type thick lips? Big round eyes? Tall, model-like body with bleached, platinum blonde hair from Romania.Thanks, that really sounds exactly like the one, assuming you are using a more German (or Romanian) approach to the spelling rather than a straight English one, and since I hear Di-di (Thai) has returned, I will probably make a visit soon. I did not realise the 'A' was so looong I guess.
Not sure if Kathi enjoyed the session as much as I did, but she was co-operative and was a very nice optifik. Did anyone ever post a report on her, or just only me?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1867-FKK-Palace-Frankfurt&p=1412912&viewfull=1#post1412912
Heesen Bob,
I fully agree with you. Palace is a real tourist trap.
Beautiful girls, but bad service and attitude among the girls.
And no possibility to relax at all.
If Palace is so good as many guys here at ISG claim, why are there almost no German men visiting Palace?
Sharks, Mainahattan and Oase are all superior to Palace.
Also the FKK:s in Dόsseldorf area are superior.Hello Arnold15 and Hessen Bub.
Even between my limited visits to Palace I have seen the decline in service. I can only imagine what it was like before. Still, this FKK is geared for foreigners who find this place to be easily accessible while visiting Frankfurt. Still, looking at it objectively, they do have a fine collection of Optifiks. That is their major strength. Guys just have to get better at negotiating or accept this place for what it is, a tourist trap.
FiddyCent
Hello Arnold15 and Hessen Bub.
Even between my limited visits to Palace I have seen the decline in service. I can only imagine what it was like before. Still, this FKK is geared for foreigners who find this place to be easily accessible while visiting Frankfurt. Still, looking at it objectively, they do have a fine collection of Optifiks. That is their major strength. Guys just have to get better at negotiating or accept this place for what it is, a tourist trap.
FiddyCent3 to 4 years back I used to like Thai girls: Bee, Nina, and Di-di, Japanese Mitsu, Brazilian Kimi, and German Kim, all gone now (although I hear Di-di is back) , and maybe Nicholetta, Daniella, or Alexa sometimes, a rather non-typical selection all with good slim natural bodies (low on Romanians). Whoops I just remember that Bee had implants. Palace was probably in its "hey day" for me in about 2005, when I did a much wider variety of girls, and would have been rated as a tourist at the time, even if in the locality for work reasons. I am not sure if "tourist" really means travelling far to get to the FKK, or simply not having attended a very large number of times.
These days at Oase or World, I am doing mostly Romanians. The best of them seem very different in attitude and pure "sweetness" to the typical Palace Romanians.
Hessen Bub
10-06-13, 20:24
Still, looking at it objectively, they do have a fine collection of Optifiks.Depends on your taste. I like slim natural young girls. Don't find so many of them at Palace.
HB
I do the Miss the Palace good old days. 3-4 years back. Lena was simply a stunning 10/10 German Blonde for me and she gave true PSE AND GFE for 50 for 30 minutes with NO UPSELL at all.
I hoping for lots of "luck" when I hit Palace end of this month.
Hello Arnold15 and Hessen Bub.
Even between my limited visits to Palace I have seen the decline in service. I can only imagine what it was like before. Still, this FKK is geared for foreigners who find this place to be easily accessible while visiting Frankfurt. Still, looking at it objectively, they do have a fine collection of Optifiks. That is their major strength. Guys just have to get better at negotiating or accept this place for what it is, a tourist trap.
FiddyCent
SharkEater
10-06-13, 20:36
I am not sure if "tourist" really means travelling far to get to the FKK, or simply not having attended a very large number of times.Tourist means people visiting Palace even without checking ISG in my opinion.
AdamOnHoliday
10-06-13, 20:36
Depends on your taste. I like slim natural young girls. Don't find so many of them at Palace.
HBMost of my FKK experience has been in Austria since so many of the German FKKs are outside a city center. But when I visit Palace during the summer, I saw many slim, young, natural girls, and had a great time. I'm a short, chubby, bald Asian tourist, and no one tried a hard upsell, or provided bad service. Better than what I had in Austria and I've been to Babylon (but Babylon service is a whole other level).
Palace makes great stopover if you have a long layover in Frankfurt. Just leave your baggage at the main train station. It took me under 45 minutes to get from the airport, leave my luggage in the station, and head to Palace.
SharkEater
10-06-13, 20:42
But when I visit Palace during the summer, I saw many slim, young, natural girls, and had a great time. I'm a short, chubby, bald Asian tourist, and no one tried a hard upsell, or provided bad service.You can apply to Guinness record."The Asian getting best service from Palace girls."
But when I visit Palace during the summer, I saw many slim, young, natural girls, and had a great time.Look there are some, but when they come at you with a pushy hard sell or any other undesirable attitude, its very easy to strike them off being in contention. Also many are invisible to me as I just don't like the face. I think it greatly depends on what style of operation from the girls that you have got used to.
I think Palace girls are accustomed to really come after the customers, as the sex tourists from certain countries / cultures like the girls to approach them and do the persuading. Some of us other guys have got used to a different style where girls act more shyly / politely and let the customer come after them or at least make the moves to get them to a room. Pushy girls just turn me right off immediately, as I have come to associate this style with being a con, and expect terrible room service, which may not always be the case. However really the total number of slim natural girls has been quite low when I was there. Perhaps your "slim" is not so slim to some of us, or I was there at the wrong time.
Remember also that HB is probably not considering girls that have been there for many years, the so called "older" ones, that could still be under 30, like kooky Denisa. Forget now if she has naturals or not. Saskia must be rather ancient. Even Annie looked pudgy last time I was there (years ago used to have a slim good look, even if her attitude was not great for me). Personally, I don't care how old a girl is if she is still in good shape. Amalia at Oase is 30 but still looks great and no kids. Tits are perfect. Lena at Oase was a super-star at well over 30.
Would be great if someone could actually list a good set of the slim all natural girls, that are above average looks. We often wonder who they are. LOL
It's many years since Palace had a real super stunning girl like Marina, unless something new has arrived recently. German Kim just a few years back was very nice before she put on weight, and also Brazilian Kimi was slim and pretty. Alice (Dom) was gorgeous but very finicky and not that great in the room.
Agree man. Esp in Palace and Artemis. There are gems in these clubs, takes time to hunt. No point if you're a tourist with a few hours stopover.
Pushy girls just turn me right off immediately, as I have come to associate this style with being a con, and expect terrible room service.
In the smoking lounge I met Swenya, a tall blonde Swedish amazon. In talking with her, I determined that Joy, another tall blonde, had finally moved on from Palace. Thinking I might miss Joy, Swenya volunteered that she was much like Joy. Too bad, I thought, you just put yourself on the no-fly list. I felt Joy was one of the more notorious sharks.Can anybody confirm that Joy, German blonde tall girl with a big panther tattoo on her belly, and "Abdul" tattoo on her side, she's came back to work in Palace?
Thanks in advance.
Solo Traveler
10-07-13, 06:58
I plan to visit Palace in November.
I have heard a lot about that the girls in Palace tend to be more upselling and asking for extra tips. I'm worried about this.
I have a tight budget, so I don't want to spend more than 50 EUR with one session / one girl.
I will have to insist on paying the fixed price (50 EUR) and reject all the upselling and tipping.
Here's my question.
When I negotiate with the girl, should I just tell the girl with a tough attitude "I will only pay you 50 EUR only! I do not want any upselling service, and I have no extra tip for you either."?
Or, should I be more tricky, tell the girl "If you make me happy, maybe I will tip you or pay more money for your service, all depends on your performance", and still pay her 50 EUR only in the end of the session?
A tough attitude or being tricky, which one is a better negotiation skill to make both myself and the girl happy?
Can anybody confirm that Joy, German blonde tall girl with a big panther tattoo on her belly, and "Abdul" tattoo on her side, she's came back to work in Palace?
Thanks in advance.Not in Palace, but I saw Joy in Artemis Berlin two summer ago. She is yeah shark but if you pay you can fuck her anal pretty hard and she can pretty take hard anal fuck. That is only good thing about her and yeah she looks great.
Does anyone seen half German half Swedish "Kimmi" from Berlin in palace lately? Blonde, blue eye and little discrete tattoo saying Christopher on inside of her arm.
Nille Copenhagen
10-07-13, 15:01
I think Palace girls are accustomed to really come after the customers, as the sex tourists from certain countries / cultures like the girls to approach them and do the persuading. Some of us other guys have got used to a different style where girls act more shyly / politely and let the customer come after them or at least make the moves to get them to a room. Pushy girls just turn me right off immediately, as I have come to associate this style with being a con, and expect terrible room service, which may not always be the case.Pushy girls are a good thing for the quite and shy guys even newbies, these guys might not have guts to approach a beautiful girl.
And not all pushy girls are sharks! They are just good business women.
As I said before it seems like many experienced mongers dislike Palace girls, I always had great times at Palace and I don't see the pushy girls as a problem, actually I love the game at Palace and it keep me sharp, NRW clubs are just like "a walk in the park", LOL.
ZimmerSchatz
10-07-13, 17:41
From the hairstyle (ninth element) and ethnicity it does sound like Shirin? Can someone confirm. That is one pornstar in the making.Hello,
That's correct. I did see Shirin last Saturday in The Palace.
LOL. GT and DV a walk in the park compared to the Hessen clubs. Totally agree.
I can't wait to hit Palace this month, I'll feel like a newbie, irrespective of my experience. It's always nice to be challenged now and again.
I love playing the games with the sharks, telling them I had a fantastic 1 hour session with a girl who charged me 500 for bbj. You see their eyes light up the whole of Frankfurt. LOL.
Pushy girls are a good thing for the quite and shy guys even newbies, these guys might not have guts to approach a beautiful girl.
And not all pushy girls are sharks! They are just good business women.
As I said before it seems like many experienced mongers dislike Palace girls, I always had great times at Palace and I don't see the pushy girls as a problem, actually I love the game at Palace and it keep me sharp, NRW clubs are just like "a walk in the park", LOL.
I plan to visit Palace in November.
I have heard a lot about that the girls in Palace tend to be more upselling and asking for extra tips. I'm worried about this.
I have a tight budget, so I don't want to spend more than 50 EUR with one session / one girl. I will have to insist on paying the fixed price (50 EUR) and reject all the upselling and tipping.
Here's my question. When I negotiate with the girl, should I just tell the girl with a tough attitude "I will only pay you 50 EUR only! I do not want any upselling service, and I have no extra tip for you either."? Or, should I be more tricky, tell the girl "If you make me happy, maybe I will tip you or pay more money for your service, all depends on your performance", and still pay her 50 EUR only in the end of the session?
A tough attitude or being tricky, which one is a better negotiation skill to make both myself and the girl happy?When on such I tight budget, I would recommend World, if at a peak time for girls, like Friday or Saturday nights, or Sunday happy hour at Sharks to save more money. Depends on your circumstances. You did not say why you are stuck on the Palace. If you love implants, then I do understand. I do intend to visit Palace shortly so will be interesting to see if I can have a really good time, despite most girls not being quite my spec.
I don't really recommend being tricky, but more so being non-committal, declining the upsell ideas politely but not stating you will definitely only take 30 mins. Who knows you might conceivably want to extend, even if its unlikely. Girls are certainly used to guys not guaranteeing how much time they will take at the beginning. For a new girl, I am a "see how it goes" type of guy. Why make promises for the unknown future? Conditional promises may be open to misinterpretation by some girls.
So neither "too tough" nor "too tricky" I think.
I do the Miss the Palace good old days. 3-4 years back. Lena was simply a stunning 10/10 German Blonde for me and she gave true PSE AND GFE for 50 for 30 minutes with NO UPSELL at all.
I hoping for lots of "luck" when I hit Palace end of this month.Is that the same Lena that was there for many years, not really skinny enough for me, and I assumed she was from Romania, hanging out with Gina and Angelina types, LOL. Never asked her for a session even once, despite seeing she was popular. Face was just not quite my type. Shows how some guys like me have weird taste at times. Maybe I have the wrong one?
I was still attending 3-4 years back (but coming to an end), but the good old times for me were more like 2005. e.g. Daniella, Katrin, Marina, Natalie (Lucy), Thais Pam and Da, Linda (Cze F cups), Nicholetta (still there), Indira, Linda (Seychelles), Alice, and some more Latinas (Of course I ignore any girls with big asses or silicones). In those many girls were from "the black sea". I think it was low class to be from "Romania".
I was quite disappointed when Katrin left as her pussy was the most beautiful I have ever seen, I used to get quite excited from kissing it. The doggy was also super. Marina was the stunning one (a 10 for face and body), but not as good a session for me. Alice also had the super looks. Definitely a few super lookers in those days. Another stunner from Columbia, I forget the name (maybe Melissa).
Sebastiane
10-07-13, 22:13
I used to read a lot of rave reviews about Saskia. I finally met her last year. I thought she was a bit old, ordinary looks, ordinary performance in the room. Nothing to make me even repeat. Definitely no super GFE that I have come to expect.
E.Saskia was definitely a stunner in terms of looks and performance but I haven't seen her since July 2010 and I don't Know what she looks like now or what kind of performance she gives now. I know perceptions of beauty are subjective but all I can say is that between 2006 and 2010 when I sessioned with her regularly she was, IMO, perfect. Then again Time waits for no man (or woman) and I guess age takes its toll. She must be in her mid to late 30s now. I can't comment until I session with her again but it's entirely possible that she is not the girl she once was. Who knows?
It seems from this board that Palace still had beautiful girls but you need to pay 100 euros per half hour to sample their delights?
Perhaps if they have a Christmas or New Year's party I might be able to return for a visit to find out for myself.
Nille Copenhagen
10-07-13, 22:19
I can't wait to hit Palace this month, I'll feel like a newbie, irrespective of my experience. It's always nice to be challenged now and again.
I love playing the games with the sharks, telling them I had a fantastic 1 hour session with a girl who charged me 500 for bbj. You see their eyes light up the whole of Frankfurt. LOL.Man it could be fun, to team up again and play the shark game at Palace,"I'm a FKK virgin come a take all my money" but I don't have any money with me, ladies go chase Simex he has all the money and he is willing to pay 500 dinar for a CBJ, LOL.
Is that the same Lena that was there for many years, not really skinny enough for me, and I assumed she was from Romania, hanging out with Gina and Angelina types, LOL. Never asked her for a session even once, despite seeing she was popular. Face was just not quite my type. Shows how some guys like me have weird taste at times. Maybe I have the wrong one?I was probably think of Czech Lina / Lena from many years back who always seemed to be there and do many sessions, often short ones.
Nille Copenhagen
10-07-13, 22:50
Here's my question.
When I negotiate with the girl, should I just tell the girl with a tough attitude "I will only pay you 50 EUR only! I do not want any upselling service, and I have no extra tip for you either."?
Or, should I be more tricky, tell the girl "If you make me happy, maybe I will tip you or pay more money for your service, all depends on your performance", and still pay her 50 EUR only in the end of the session?
A tough attitude or being tricky, which one is a better negotiation skill to make both myself and the girl happy?Well this is a tricky one, going to Palace on a tight budget and let the girls not you don't have money, that will be a disaster IMO. You will get lousy service, because the girls see you as Cheap Charley.
The girls will give you good service if they feel good about you and hoping for a repeat or time extension with you.
Also I recommend you visit the club when it's not busy.
If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't let the girls know you have a small budget. You need to play the game right, that means you should select carefully your girls, starting out with 30min and let her know you are willing to extend if the first 30min is good and say you'll keep your promise if she keeps hers, that would be a fair game / trade with win-win for both. Better to have fewer good sessions than have many lousy sessions.
If you trick or cheat the girls be sure she is not happy and will tell other girls about you.
Lena 100% German. Lena very tall and real porn star looks, with Tatts going down her thighs & legs.
Most of her regulars were gangster type. Won't be surprised if she got pregnant with one of them.
Def not Gina. I know who she is. Is she still around.
I was probably think of Czech Lina / Lena from many years back who always seemed to be there and do many sessions, often short ones.
Saskia was definitely a stunner in terms of looks and performance but I haven't seen her since July 2010 and I don't Know what she looks like now or what kind of performance she gives now. I know perceptions of beauty are subjective but all I can say is that between 2006 and 2010 when I sessioned with her regularly she was, IMO, perfect. Then again Time waits for no man (or woman) and I guess age takes its toll. She must be in her mid to late 30s now. I can't comment until I session with her again but it's entirely possible that she is not the girl she once was. Who knows?Physically, the 2013 edition of Saskia is not the same as the 2006 edition. A wider, bigger butt is the major difference. Breasts still naturally perky. No tats anywhere and still elegant profile, especially on high heels. If you're a regular and she sees you as such, there is no dropoff in performance as far as I'm concerned. YMMV rules as usual.
Another stunner from Columbia, I forget the name (maybe Melissa).That would be Martha. Still very popular and constantly booked. Still working at Palace although currently off.
That would be Martha. Still very popular and constantly booked. Still working at Palace although currently off.Not really. I was talking about many years ago, the early years of the Palace. I doubt if that girl has returned so long later. I am not doubting Martha is great but I don't think I have met her on recent visits nor when I was a regular 3-4 years back.
When I first visited the Palace, I did not know about the ISG, and only started posting in late 2006 under a different handle.
Hessen Bub
10-09-13, 16:55
Stunner? Don't know. But Colmbian Andrea returned to Palace after a loooooong break. She's rather small and siliconized.
HB
I was probably think of Czech Lina / Lena from many years back who always seemed to be there and do many sessions, often short ones.Ahh Czech Lina. Also known as Adelina at times, I think. A true Palace shark operator that seemed to be constantly on the move through the place, processing rapidly as she went.
That takes me back. She was occasionally a double act with the legendary Linda (DD) , at least it was for me. A pricey but thoroughly enjoyable experience.
That would be Martha. Still very popular and constantly booked. Still working at Palace although currently off.I don't see any reports on Martha for quite some time, so must be a long absence. Her pics are no longer on the Palace website, or at least I can't find them. I have never met her, I'll bet. I intend to visit Palace very soon but I don't add Martha to the likely targets because its unlikely she will be there as you point out.
I am hoping to catch tall blonde Kathi with the luscious bee-sting lips and maybe one of the two Thais: Soda or Di-Di, or both.
I will also survey just how many young slim all natural girls there are and how many of those are not going to have the high pressure sell, eliminating girls I have already tried in the past that were not so great. Then rate how many of these actually have a pretty face. I am not expecting a big tally but am willing to be surprised as I am finding other clubs have experienced very significant line-up changes in just the last 2 to 3 months. So Palace could be similar.
The stunning Columbian I knew was definitely different and a very long time ago, probably early 2005 before I was even on the ISG, so I cannot check my past reports, wouldn't have had implants, and was possibly only at the Palace for a short time (which is why I am rather hazy about the name). Seemed like a bit of a casual worker, not intending to do it regularly or long term. Not that it matters at all any more.
I can remember doing Nichole of Columbia several years later, not specially memorable for me, except after DATY, she claimed was first time she ever had accidentally cum at the Palace. Ha Ha. Could be just a story (one way or the other). Was a dull fuck for me though. So never repeated.
CaptCabins
10-11-13, 01:53
Guys,
Can anyone tell me is Martha of Colombia is currently at Palace?
I don't see any reports on Martha for quite some time, so must be a long absence. Her pics are no longer on the Palace website, or at least I can't find them. I have never met her, I'll bet. I intend to visit Palace very soon but I don't add Martha to the likely targets because its unlikely she will be there as you point out.
I am hoping to catch tall blonde Kathi with the luscious bee-sting lips.Martha has been at Palace for a long time and still looks great at least in the dim lights of the club. She remains a great value at the club. She doesn't work as much as she used to and takes longer breaks now. If you're an infrequent visitor, good luck scoring with her.
I don't think you'll have any problem finding Kathi. She's at the club at least 5 days a week, mostly from mid-week on. Moderately booked.
Can anyone tell me is Martha of Colombia is currently at Palace?On fridays Oktoberfest party Martha wasn't seen at palace.
Was a dreary day outside. Cold and drizzling with rain. Arrived at the Palace about 4:30PM. Not many girls in evidence.
Oh shit, its Octoberfest party day. Parties at the Palace are notoriously bad. I was going to have to put up with girls in Dirndl costume (the special October Fest outfits).
The Asian girl was waiting outside the men's change. Reasonable looking with fairly well done implants. "Sawat dee Khap" say I in Thai. She acts confused. "I'm sorry where do you come from?" I ask. She says Cambodia. So I try "sok sapbaiy jea the" a vague approximation to Khmer "How are you?". She asks how come I speak Thai and Cambodian. O.K. Thai it is so ask her name (in Thai) and she replies "Soda" (sounds long like Sohdar) and comes from Bangkok a well known city in Cambodia. LOL
Since there isn't that much else special talent in evidence, I decide to go with Soda(Thai). The chemistry is not really perfect. She is quite suspicious about me. I assure her I have been to the Palace many times and know the prices. She indicates I should be reading the menu board. No glasses with me. I would struggle to read it. LOL She stuffs around with her wet wipes. She mentions she is allergic to gel and uses special oil at 15 Euros for a tiny dispenser. I suggest the quality Ritex gel but she assures me she is allergic to all of them. A bit of the upsell talk starts but I am ignoring it, but indicate that if its going well I will stay more than 30 mins. Its clear the kissing is going to be minimal (maybe DFK costs extra maybe she doesn't do it). Her nipples are nice so kiss them and move to DATY. Initially she is archiving the back to minimise the purchase for DATY. After a while she decides she is turned on a bit as stops arching the back and raises hips a little to make it easy for me, and then starts jiggling around a bit like she is getting into it. Things are starting to look up. After DATY she indicates her pussy is feeling strange. What did I eat? I commented I used the pink mouthwash provided in the mens' bathroom. She indicated that was crap mouthwash (Listerine is what she uses) and copiously wipes her pussy to get it back to normal. Then proceeds with BBBJ. Her BJ is very soft and slow. She is quite expert at this but not to deep throat. BJ scores an 8+. Sex was very nice in various positions. Pussy is a good fit and she does have a very cute ass (her best feature) for doggy. Sex scores an 8. Face 7, body 8. Not really GFE, so overall performance perhaps 7. Quite good as a start girl, but I would have preferred Di-di (Thai) for more GF type sex, if she was present (or Bee or Nina in the past). Repeat? Well only if nothing better available.
Soda summary: Face 7, body 8, Chemistry 6, GFE 5, service 8
Some one commented that Di-di had been to the Palace recently but just only one day, maybe two. I searched around for Kathi, the tall voluptuous (but still gazelle) girl with bee-sting lips, but not to be found. At the front coffee bar a short dark girl sits, and has a winning smile. I will probably take her later after a rest. She introduces herself as Arisu (Born Germany but Iranian parents). Not much tits under the costume but at least I can see they are not Sillies.
I buddy up with a guy from Norway who at first claims to be from NZ but definitely the wrong accent. Then he says he speaking like to pretend he comes Norway. LOL. He indicates he tried Soda another day, an liked her. Also blonde very pretty faced Chanel (not so great in room - he said), and also blonde Annabella, with Annabella rated best for room performance and GFE. All girls with looks in my style. However Chanel had weird tits and acted a bit too arrogant for me. I marked down Annabela for the "short list".
Dinner supposed to be at 7:30 but was at least 7:40+ before they opened. By 8:30 I would have expected the place to be humming. But only could count 35 girls. Lets assume others busy and in change room, so probably about 50 girls tops. Place was not very busy. Had seen a few girls who have been at Palace for many years, e.g. Nicholetta, Alice (Dom) still as stunning as ever, Angelica, Roxanne/Roxanna (good body - average face), tall brunette (Daniella's sister I think), Saskia (horsey looking type with implants), Denisa skinny blonde (good ass with implant tits), etc. I am always hot for Alice, but know it won't work out well in the room, as she is a very finicky type, not GFE, and BJ is far to toothy/strong for me. Better to just look at her. Not so many years: Another very pretty faced girl is Stella (with figure not quite to my spec). Jenny with curly hair also looks very good overall but seems a bit aloof. Leticia(Gre?) has good body also, but face and vibe not quite right. How many slim gazelles with great natural body? Very few. Could count on one hand. Most girls are a little more or plus sized, many are spoiled by the implants (for my taste), very few perfect asses (most a bit big or flabby). Many saggy tits girls when not Sillies. Great super asses were: Soda, Arisu, Denisa, ... O.K. its tough to tell with girls wearing the Dirndl outfits. Oase and World have easily two to three times more girls (in busy evening like Friday) with super slim gazelle natural bodies. At Palace definitely some very pretty faces but the bodies that go with them are not so special in most cases.
Went with Arisu(Deu/Iran) after she ate dinner, and she explained that was very busy for the Automechaniker Messe, but not for the Book-fair, and girls like to stay away when its a crap party night. Arisu has been at Palace 1 year but is apparently a daytime girl, so I don't remember her from previous visits. Usually daytime girls are more reliable, so this is a good sign. Ass turns out to be quite good, but her body is not quite to my spec with very tiny tits, and skin not quite smooth coloured. Light French kissing with tongue, but not to DFK standard. She stopped me from doing DATY after not so long as probably afraid she might be getting turned on a little. BBBJ O.K. scores 7 (not as good as Soda). Sex in various positions was good scores 8. Overall performance good but not exactly GF sex. Repeat? Again, would probably not repeat unless couldn't find anything better.
Arisu summary: Face 8, body 7, Chemistry 7, GFE 7-, service 7
Very late was looking for Annabella for some time, but seems she must have gone home. The number of girls seemed to be dropping and the men increasing. Getting close to 3 guys to every girl. Place was getting rather smokey. Must be the door to smoking room gets opened very frequently and smoke spills out. Even the average girls are now getting more busy. I decide to take Stella (Deu), even though the body is not quite what I go for. Face is at least very pretty. As room wait is mounting, we go to a small cubicle, with curtain. At least air will come in there. Most rooms are too hot and somewhat airless for me. The cubicle is very dark. This is not good. Stella starts with the "How much do I want to spend? What is my budget?" This is a more annoying form of upsell, as I don't want to decide how much I will spend at the start and don't want her to decide what things she will do to fit my budget. This is a bad start. Soon becomes apparent she won't kiss or take DATY. These are not on the menu. She doesn't like CIM but can pay extra to cum on her tits. I am not interested in that. For 50 extra I can put my fingers up her pussy. This does actually appeal (in place of DATY) so I succumb to that (with condom on fingers). My two fingers are finding her pussy very tight, and its turning me on, and about 3+ inches in (the length of my fingers) I can feel something slightly strange and course textured (not human). Maybe a piece of sponge or some sort of birth control device. This is not good as my dick definitely longer than 3+ inches and I don't need foreign objects spoiling the feeling. I ask her if it can be removed but she acts dumb and asks "Why would a girl put something up her pussy?" Ha Ha! Its very well known that girls go this at times. BBBJ was too hard at times, she managed to soften it a bit scores 6. Next problem is she doesn't want to use my durex Gefuelsecht condoms, easy on, less constrictive, and thinner (95% of girls are O.K. with it). I have to take the deadening "London" condom. I do make do with "Londons" when a girl's pussy is ideal for me and everything else is going well. However this time I insert, there is difficultly getting full penetration, she is small and obstructed, she claims I am too big, and the felling is deadened by the tight condom. I can tell my hard-on that was fine during the BBBJ is starting to diminish. Tried doggy for a while which was working better, but the feeling was not great, and being quite dark could not even see her body properly to get to turned on by the visuals. She then tried more BBBJ but every time I got close to cumming she would switch to hand job to avoid CIM, and my felling would go away again. So no cum, no GFE, no kiss, no DATY, mediocre BBBJ, no chemistry, finicky in the room. I am sure she is just fine for some guys who cum really easy and don't really require that much from a girl. Even Stella did not like the German Octoberfest music (fortunately there was variety). Its a long time since I had a session this poor at Oase or World. Did have an even worse one at Sharks recently that was cancelled after 10 mins but that one was only 50 wasted.
Stella summary: Face 9, body 7-, Chemistry 5, GFE 0, service 6
I hunt around for a replacement session available girls are getting very thin. Try Roxxanne a long time girl at Palace, with good body and so-so face. She asks what I want to do in the room. I reply with just the normal stuff. She asks what is my normal stuff. I am wondering why I have to talk about sex, BJ, DATY etc., when these things are mostly standard, and if she kisses great, and if she doesn't, too bad. She starts to describe exactly what I can get for standard session, as if I didn't know after all these years (and she knows I have attended Palace since years ago). I suggest that I will go for an hour, and will that help. She responds that she doesn't want to go to the room for an hour. O.K. forget it. 30 mins is rare for me unless session is bad. Next am considering a Slovenian newbie girl but she doesn't really speak English and face and body are really not doing anything special for me. Vanessa brunette comes to me with the hard sell and detailed description of how things happen in the room. I am not really believing all the talk and her face doesn't appeal. I decide to approach a slim girl that is popular, fun looking, slightly weird face with a piercing and body not that great, but her apparent fun style is the best part. She has been patrolling the place, seemingly looking for another guy. I go up, she says hello, I say hello, and she immediately comes out with "I haven't got time for you, I go home". She doesn't go home but keeps prowling around, but does seem to be knocking back other guys. Guys are getting desperate there are so few girls to be had. Its frustrating, and after hitting so many upsell girls and so many girls who want to negotiate the session before we even start, its making me very suspicious and wary of every girl. They all start to look like bad girls, even when some are not.
In the end, I decide its too late 3AM, and I best cut my losses and leave. I need to really make a note to say "do not return to the Palace". This is 3rd not so good visit this year where I am just getting the wrong vibe from the whole place, and really great GFE sessions do not seem to exist. I have no problem in getting better GFE sessions at Oase and World, so why waste my time at the Palace? The two good girls I know that I was looking for did not show up.
So its smokey, small count of slim girls with great natural bodies, true GFE sessions hard to come by, annoying upsell and session negotiations to put up with that I am just not accustomed to, rooms are not well ventilated, the girl line-up was weak on a Friday night with 50 girls tops (Palace parties should be avoided), general lack of full nudity made worse by party costume. Good aspects: the food is good. There were some girls with extremely pretty faces, Alice remains the No. 1 stunner, but these are largely girls not suited to me.
P.S. Martha (Col) not present. All up 3 black girls, 2 with severe Sillies, and Alice the natural stunner.
WorkTravel80
10-12-13, 12:36
Was a dreary day outside. Cold and drizzling with rain. Arrived at the Palace about 4:30PM. Not many girls in evidence.
Oh shit, its Octoberfest party day. Parties at the Palace are notoriously bad. I was going to have to put up with girls in Dirndl costume (the special October Fest outfits).
The Asian girl was waiting outside the men's change. Reasonable looking with fairly well done implants."Sawat dee Khap" say I in Thai. She acts confused."I'm sorry where do you come from?" I ask. She says Cambodia. So I try "sok sapbaiy jea the" a vague approximation to Khmer "How are you?". She asks how come I speak Thai and Cambodian. Okay Thai it is so ask her name (in Thai) and she replies "Soda" (sounds long like Sohdar) and comes from Bangkok a well known city in Cambodia. LOL
Since there isn't that much else special talent in evidence, I decide to go with Soda (Thai). The chemistry is not really perfect. She is quite suspicious about me. I assure her I have been to the Palace many times and know the prices. She indicates I should be reading the menu board. No glasses with me. I would struggle to read it. LOL She stuffs around with her wet wipes. She mentions she is allergic to gel and uses special oil at 15 Euros for a tiny dispenser. I suggest the quality Ritex gel but she assures me she is allergic to all of them. A bit of the upsell talk starts but I am ignoring it, but indicate that if its going well I will stay more than 30 mins. Its clear the kissing is going to be minimal (maybe DFK costs extra maybe she doesn't do it). Her nipples are nice so kiss them and move to DATY. Initially she is archiving the back to minimise the purchase for DATY. After a while she decides she is turned on a bit as stops arching the back and raises hips a little to make it easy for me, and then starts jiggling around a bit like she is getting into it. Things are starting to look up. After DATY she indicates her pussy is feeling strange. What did I eat? I commented I used the pink mouthwash provided in the mens' bathroom. She indicated that was crap mouthwash (Listerine is what she uses) and copiously wipes her pussy to get it back to normal. Then proceeds with BBBJ. Her BJ is very soft and slow. She is quite expert at this but not to deep throat. BJ scores an 8+. Sex was very nice in various positions. Pussy is a good fit and she does have a very cute ass (her best feature) for doggy. Sex scores an 8. Face 7, body 8. Not really GFE, so overall performance perhaps 7. Quite good as a start girl, but I would have preferred Di-di (Thai) for more GF type sex, if she was present (or Bee or Nina in the past). Repeat? Well only if nothing better available.
Soda summary: Face 7, body 8, Chemistry 6, GFE 5, service 8.
Some one commented that Di-di had been to the Palace recently but just only one day, maybe two. I searched around for Kathi, the tall voluptuous (but still gazelle) girl with bee-sting lips, but not to be found. At the front coffee bar a short dark girl sits, and has a winning smile. I will probably take her later after a rest. She introduces herself as Arisu (Born Germany but Iranian parents). Not much tits under the costume but at least I can see they are not Sillies.
I buddy up with a guy from Norway who at first claims to be from NZ but definitely the wrong accent. Then he says he speaking like to pretend he comes Norway. LOL. He indicates he tried Soda another day, an liked her. Also blonde very pretty faced Chanel (not so great in room. He said) , and also blonde Annabella, with Annabella rated best for room performance and GFE. All girls with looks in my style. However Chanel had weird tits and acted a bit too arrogant for me. I marked down Annabela for the "short list".
Dinner supposed to be at 7:30 but was at least 7:40+ before they opened. By 8:30 I would have expected the place to be humming. But only could count 35 girls. Lets assume others busy and in change room, so probably about 50 girls tops. Place was not very busy. Had seen a few girls who have been at Palace for many years, e. G. Nicholetta, Alice (Dom) still as stunning as ever, Angelica, Roxanne / Roxanna (good body. Average face) , tall brunette (Daniella's sister I think) , Saskia (horsey looking type with implants) , Denisa skinny blonde (good ass with implant tits) , etc. I am always hot for Alice, but know it won't work out well in the room, as she is a very finicky type, not GFE, and BJ is far to toothy / strong for me. Better to just look at her. Not so many years: Another very pretty faced girl is Stella (with figure not quite to my spec). Jenny with curly hair also looks very good overall but seems a bit aloof. Leticia (Gre?) has good body also, but face and vibe not quite right. How many slim gazelles with great natural body? Very few. Could count on one hand. Most girls are a little more or plus sized, many are spoiled by the implants (for my taste) , very few perfect asses (most a bit big or flabby). Many saggy tits girls when not Sillies. Great super asses were: Soda, Arisu, Denisa, . Okay its tough to tell with girls wearing the Dirndl outfits. Oase and World have easily two to three times more girls (in busy evening like Friday) with super slim gazelle natural bodies. At Palace definitely some very pretty faces but the bodies that go with them are not so special in most cases.
Went with Arisu (Deu / Iran) after she ate dinner, and she explained that was very busy for the Automechaniker Messe, but not for the Book-fair, and girls like to stay away when its a crap party night. Arisu has been at Palace 1 year but is apparently a daytime girl, so I don't remember her from previous visits. Usually daytime girls are more reliable, so this is a good sign. Ass turns out to be quite good, but her body is not quite to my spec with very tiny tits, and skin not quite smooth coloured. Light French kissing with tongue, but not to DFK standard. She stopped me from doing DATY after not so long as probably afraid she might be getting turned on a little. BBBJ okay scores 7 (not as good as Soda). Sex in various positions was good scores 8. Overall performance good but not exactly GF sex. Repeat? Again, would probably not repeat unless couldn't find anything better.
Arisu summary: Face 8, body 7, Chemistry 7, GFE 7, service 7.
Very late was looking for Annabella for some time, but seems she must have gone home. The number of girls seemed to be dropping and the men increasing. Getting close to 3 guys to every girl. Place was getting rather smokey. Must be the door to smoking room gets opened very frequently and smoke spills out. Even the average girls are now getting more busy. I decide to take Stella (Deu) , even though the body is not quite what I go for. Face is at least very pretty. As room wait is mounting, we go to a small cubicle, with curtain. At least air will come in there. Most rooms are too hot and somewhat airless for me. The cubicle is very dark. This is not good. Stella starts with the "How much do I want to spend? What is my budget?" This is a more annoying form of upsell, as I don't want to decide how much I will spend at the start and don't want her to decide what things she will do to fit my budget. This is a bad start. Soon becomes apparent she won't kiss or take DATY. These are not on the menu. She doesn't like CIM but can pay extra to cum on her tits. I am not interested in that. For 50 extra I can put my fingers up her pussy. This does actually appeal (in place of DATY) so I succumb to that (with condom on fingers). My two fingers are finding her pussy very tight, and its turning me on, and about 3+ inches in (the length of my fingers) I can feel something slightly strange and course textured (not human). Maybe a piece of sponge or some sort of birth control device. This is not good as my dick definitely longer than 3+ inches and I don't need foreign objects spoiling the feeling. I ask her if it can be removed but she acts dumb and asks "Why would a girl put something up her pussy?" Ha Ha! Its very well known that girls go this at times. BBBJ was too hard at times, she managed to soften it a bit scores 6. Next problem is she doesn't want to use my durex Gefuelsecht condoms, easy on, less constrictive, and thinner (95% of girls are okay with it). I have to take the deadening "London" condom. I do make do with "Londons" when a girl's pussy is ideal for me and everything else is going well. However this time I insert, there is difficultly getting full penetration, she is small and obstructed, she claims I am too big, and the felling is deadened by the tight condom. I can tell my hard-on that was fine during the BBBJ is starting to diminish. Tried doggy for a while which was working better, but the feeling was not great, and being quite dark could not even see her body properly to get to turned on by the visuals. She then tried more BBBJ but every time I got close to cumming she would switch to hand job to avoid CIM, and my felling would go away again. So no cum, no GFE, no kiss, no DATY, mediocre BBBJ, no chemistry, finicky in the room. I am sure she is just fine for some guys who cum really easy and don't really require that much from a girl. Even Stella did not like the German Octoberfest music (fortunately there was variety). Its a long time since I had a session this poor at Oase or World. Did have an even worse one at Sharks recently that was cancelled after 10 mins but that one was only 50 wasted.
Stella summary: Face 9, body 7, Chemistry 5, GFE 0, service 6.
I hunt around for a replacement session available girls are getting very thin. Try Roxxanne a long time girl at Palace, with good body and so-so face. She asks what I want to do in the room. I reply with just the normal stuff. She asks what is my normal stuff. I am wondering why I have to talk about sex, BJ, DATY etc, when these things are mostly standard, and if she kisses great, and if she doesn't, too bad. She starts to describe exactly what I can get for standard session, as if I didn't know after all these years (and she knows I have attended Palace since years ago). I suggest that I will go for an hour, and will that help. She responds that she doesn't want to go to the room for an hour. Okay forget it. 30 mins is rare for me unless session is bad. Next am considering a Slovenian newbie girl but she doesn't really speak English and face and body are really not doing anything special for me. Vanessa brunette comes to me with the hard sell and detailed description of how things happen in the room. I am not really believing all the talk and her face doesn't appeal. I decide to approach a slim girl that is popular, fun looking, slightly weird face with a piercing and body not that great, but her apparent fun style is the best part. She has been patrolling the place, seemingly looking for another guy. I go up, she says hello, I say hello, and she immediately comes out with "I haven't got time for you, I go home". She doesn't go home but keeps prowling around, but does seem to be knocking back other guys. Guys are getting desperate there are so few girls to be had. Its frustrating, and after hitting so many upsell girls and so many girls who want to negotiate the session before we even start, its making me very suspicious and wary of every girl. They all start to look like bad girls, even when some are not.
In the end, I decide its too late 3AM, and I best cut my losses and leave. I need to really make a note to say "do not return to the Palace". This is 3rd not so good visit this year where I am just getting the wrong vibe from the whole place, and really great GFE sessions do not seem to exist. I have no problem in getting better GFE sessions at Oase and World, so why waste my time at the Palace? The two good girls I know that I was looking for did not show up.
So its smokey, small count of slim girls with great natural bodies, true GFE sessions hard to come by, annoying upsell and session negotiations to put up with that I am just not accustomed to, rooms are not well ventilated, the girl line-up was weak on a Friday night with 50 girls tops (Palace parties should be avoided) , general lack of full nudity made worse by party costume. Good aspects: the food is good. There were some girls with extremely pretty faces, Alice remains the No. 1 stunner, but these are largely girls not suited to me.I am sorry to hear that man. Maybe you should just visit some other Clubs in the hesse and area. Although I always have a good time in the Palace. One question: did you see Isabella from Spain this evening? Blonde With Silicon tits. If you like the GFE you should defnt try her out. Or maybe you already have done that?
Norwergian90
I am sorry to hear that man. Maybe you should just visit some other Clubs in the hesse and area. Although I always have a good time in the Palace. One question: did you see Isabella from Spain this evening? Blonde With Silicon tits. If you like the GFE you should defnt try her out. Or maybe you already have done that?
Norwergian90My time at Palace started O. K, but deteriorated as the night wore on. I think day time girls are better generally.
As reported I much prefer other clubs in the Hesse area like Oase, World, and recently Sharks. I don't like Silly-cones generally unless a very subtle job, so I probably would not have met Isabella if she was present. I previously tried a different Isabella (brunette with white skin) , who is currently back at World as Jennifer (probably known as "Gothic Jennifer"), however not good enough to be picked at World.
Hessen Bub
10-12-13, 14:42
Thanks for the update. Reminds me why I crossed it off the list. Maybe I'll give it another try in winter to spend a wellness day eith several visits to the sauna, food and drinks when the weather gets shitty and roads are icy.
HB
Thanks for the update. Reminds me why I crossed it off the list. Maybe I'll give it another try in winter to spend a wellness day eith several visits to the sauna, food and drinks when the weather gets shitty and roads are icy.
HBI think Palace can be fine for those who don't mind sillies, are not so GFE oriented, and don't expect slim gazelles with bodies scoring a 9, plus know the girls fairly well, and have a quite tough attitude that can remain aloof from the girls' tactics. Guys like me looking for the sweetest tenderest GFE girls with both stunning face and good body, e. G. A Sharks Roxanna (plus others) , a World Antonia or Samantha or Karina, a Oase Lavinia or Amalia, are probably going to struggle, to find someone equal or even close.
Maybe Martha (Col) seems to be the universally recommended top natural girl at Palace, if can catch her. Soda and Arisu good average standard but did not quite rock my world.
Only meeting one girl I am really keen to repeat in 3 visits could not be viewed as great success. Looking forward to next Sharks tryout as line up seems to be peaking.
Soda (Thai) says she would not like it at Palace if there were several Thai girls there, claiming problems with inter girl jealousies. Soda is one of the busiest girls at the Palace with only very weak competition from the Chinese girl, forget the name. And yet what she delivers falls short of Bee 2008 to 2010 and also not to standard of past girls Mitzu and Di-di for GF type sex. Perhaps even Bpum is not there any more. Ancient Lucky had an operation. No idea if she will ever contemplate a return. Probably was oldest girl at the Palace, even though others have looked older.
Perhaps what Soda really means is she doesn't need any strong competition LOL. Her figure is a bit hotter than the Oase Thai girls, but I really prefer the natural style of May (of Oase) in the room.
Soda seems to speak English, with exaggerated and unnecessary "s" type sounds, which is a bit strange and not typical of Thais. Slightly difficult to understand at times, when speaking English. Maybe influenced by different sounds in Deutsch language.
Dinner supposed to be at 7:30 but was at least 7:40+ before they opened. By 8:30 I would have expected the place to be humming. But only could count 35 girls. Lets assume others busy and in change room, so probably about 50 girls tops. Place was not very busy. Had seen a few girls who have been at Palace for many years, e. G. Nicholetta, Alice (Dom) still as stunning as ever, Angelica, Roxanne / Roxanna (good body. Average face) , tall brunette (Daniella's sister I think) , Saskia (horsey looking type with implants) , Denisa skinny blonde (good ass with implant tits) , etc. I am always hot for Alice, but know it won't work out well in the room, as she is a very finicky type, not GFE, and BJ is far to toothy / strong for me. Better to just look at her. Not so many years: Another very pretty faced girl is Stella (with figure not quite to my spec). Jenny with curly hair also looks very good overall but seems a bit aloof. Leticia (Gre?) has good body also, but face and vibe not quite right. How many slim gazelles with great natural body? Very few. Could count on one hand. Most girls are a little more or plus sized, many are spoiled by the implants (for my taste) , very few perfect asses (most a bit big or flabby). Many saggy tits girls when not Sillies. Great super asses were: Soda, Arisu, Denisa, . Okay its tough to tell with girls wearing the Dirndl outfits. Oase and World have easily two to three times more girls (in busy evening like Friday) with super slim gazelle natural bodies. At Palace definitely some very pretty faces but the bodies that go with them are not so special in most cases.
Went with Arisu (Deu / Iran) after she ate dinner, and she explained that was very busy for the Automechaniker Messe, but not for the Book-fair, and girls like to stay away when its a crap party night. Arisu has been at Palace 1 year but is apparently a daytime girl, so I don't remember her from previous visits. Usually daytime girls are more reliable, so this is a good sign. Ass turns out to be quite good, but her body is not quite to my spec with very tiny tits, and skin not quite smooth coloured. Light French kissing with tongue, but not to DFK standard. She stopped me from doing DATY after not so long as probably afraid she might be getting turned on a little. BBBJ okay scores 7 (not as good as Soda). Sex in various positions was good scores 8. Overall performance good but not exactly GF sex. Repeat? Again, would probably not repeat unless couldn't find anything better.
Arisu summary: Face 8, body 7, Chemistry 7, GFE 7, service 7.
Very late was looking for Annabella for some time, but seems she must have gone home. The number of girls seemed to be dropping and the men increasing. Getting close to 3 guys to every girl. Place was getting rather smokey. Must be the door to smoking room gets opened very frequently and smoke spills out. Even the average girls are now getting more busy. I decide to take Stella (Deu) , even though the body is not quite what I go for. Face is at least very pretty. As room wait is mounting, we go to a small cubicle, with curtain. At least air will come in there. Most rooms are too hot and somewhat airless for me. The cubicle is very dark. This is not good. Stella starts with the "How much do I want to spend? What is my budget?" This is a more annoying form of upsell, as I don't want to decide how much I will spend at the start and don't want her to decide what things she will do to fit my budget. This is a bad start. Soon becomes apparent she won't kiss or take DATY. These are not on the menu. She doesn't like CIM but can pay extra to cum on her tits. I am not interested in that. For 50 extra I can put my fingers up her pussy. This does actually appeal (in place of DATY) so I succumb to that (with condom on fingers). My two fingers are finding her pussy very tight, and its turning me on, and about 3+ inches in (the length of my fingers) I can feel something slightly strange and course textured (not human). Maybe a piece of sponge or some sort of birth control device. This is not good as my dick definitely longer than 3+ inches and I don't need foreign objects spoiling the feeling. I ask her if it can be removed but she acts dumb and asks "Why would a girl put something up her pussy?" Ha Ha! Its very well known that girls go this at times. BBBJ was too hard at times, she managed to soften it a bit scores 6. Next problem is she doesn't want to use my durex Gefuelsecht condoms, easy on, less constrictive, and thinner (95% of girls are okay with it). I have to take the deadening "London" condom. I do make do with "Londons" when a girl's pussy is ideal for me and everything else is going well. However this time I insert, there is difficultly getting full penetration, she is small and obstructed, she claims I am too big, and the felling is deadened by the tight condom. I can tell my hard-on that was fine during the BBBJ is starting to diminish. Tried doggy for a while which was working better, but the feeling was not great, and being quite dark could not even see her body properly to get to turned on by the visuals. She then tried more BBBJ but every time I got close to cumming she would switch to hand job to avoid CIM, and my felling would go away again. So no cum, no GFE, no kiss, no DATY, mediocre BBBJ, no chemistry, finicky in the room. I am sure she is just fine for some guys who cum really easy and don't really require that much from a girl. Even Stella did not like the German Octoberfest music (fortunately there was variety). Its a long time since I had a session this poor at Oase or World. Did have an even worse one at Sharks recently that was cancelled after 10 mins but that one was only 50 wasted.
Stella summary: Face 9, body 7, Chemistry 5, GFE 0, service 6.
I hunt around for a replacement session available girls are getting very thin. Try Roxxanne a long time girl at Palace, with good body and so-so face. She asks what I want to do in the room. I reply with just the normal stuff. She asks what is my normal stuff. I am wondering why I have to talk about sex, BJ, DATY etc, when these things are mostly standard, and if she kisses great, and if she doesn't, too bad. She starts to describe exactly what I can get for standard session, as if I didn't know after all these years (and she knows I have attended Palace since years ago). I suggest that I will go for an hour, and will that help. She responds that she doesn't want to go to the room for an hour. Okay forget it. 30 mins is rare for me unless session is bad. Next am considering a Slovenian newbie girl but she doesn't really speak English and face and body are really not doing anything special for me. Vanessa brunette comes to me with the hard sell and detailed description of how things happen in the room. I am not really believing all the talk and her face doesn't appeal. I decide to approach a slim girl that is popular, fun looking, slightly weird face with a piercing and body not that great, but her apparent fun style is the best part. She has been patrolling the place, seemingly looking for another guy. I go up, she says hello, I say hello, and she immediately comes out with "I haven't got time for you, I go home". She doesn't go home but keeps prowling around, but does seem to be knocking back other guys. Guys are getting desperate there are so few girls to be had. Its frustrating, and after hitting so many upsell girls and so many girls who want to negotiate the session before we even start, its making me very suspicious and wary of every girl. They all start to look like bad girls, even when some are not.
In the end, I decide its too late 3AM, and I best cut my losses and leave. I need to really make a note to say "do not return to the Palace". This is 3rd not so good visit this year where I am just getting the wrong vibe from the whole place, and really great GFE sessions do not seem to exist. I have no problem in getting better GFE sessions at Oase and World, so why waste my time at the Palace? The two good girls I know that I was looking for did not show up.
So its smokey, small count of slim girls with great natural bodies, true GFE sessions hard to come by, annoying upsell and session negotiations to put up with that I am just not accustomed to, rooms are not well ventilated, the girl line-up was weak on a Friday night with 50 girls tops (Palace parties should be avoided) , general lack of full nudity made worse by party costume. Good aspects: the food is good. There were some girls with extremely pretty faces, Alice remains the No. 1 stunner, but these are largely girls not suited to me.
P. S. Martha (Col) not present. All up 3 black girls. 2 with severe Sillies, and Alice the natural stunner.Interesting report. That's why I avoid Palace parties in the first place.
Saskia has no implants. All natural. Maybe you mixed her up with another one.
Interesting that Kathi was not seen on Friday night. May be smart of her to avoid Palace's notoriously sucky parties. She was there last night and walked around a lot. Did not seem busy. But then again, the whole day and evening yesterday favored punters as far as choices.
Stella's service is restrictive, no DATY allowed under any circumstance. She does have a very pretty face. That said, there is one girl whose face IMHO is even prettier and could easily be on the cover of a fashion magazine. And that's Tamera, a 22yo Serbian girl, short black hair, all natural, no tats, super body. 1.65m. I've been with both Stella and Tamera and the latter provides a much better service (prolonged DATY is encouraged.). Both were very busy last night with Stella drawing mostly an East Asian clientele.
There are enough gems and sure values at Palace to keep one hanging out at the club for more than 6 hours there. If you're a regular, the sharks and notorious up sellers leave you alone. If you're a newbie or an infrequent visitor, good luck navigating through all that.
I am sorry to hear that man. Maybe you should just visit some other Clubs in the hesse and area. Although I always have a good time in the Palace. One question: did you see Isabella from Spain this evening? Blonde With Silicon tits. If you like the GFE you should defnt try her out. Or maybe you already have done that?
Norwergian90Norwegian90,
I went with Isabella from Spain on Wed evening. She went home on Friday evening. I agree she's a GFE gem. Also a real sweety. She"ll return to Palace later next month.
WorkTravel80
10-13-13, 14:19
Norwegian90,
I went with Isabella from Spain on Wed evening. She went home on Friday evening. I agree she's a GFE gem. Also a real sweety. She"ll return to Palace later next month.Good to hear you enjoyed her as well. I guess she treated you like a girlfriend with some nice DFK. For how many hours did you book her? Could you tell me something more a about your experience with her? Like for example if she wanted to upsell etc or what she allowed you to do etc Sorry for my curiosity! JUst wanted to know ifyou had a simular experience like me.
Norwegian90
WorkTravel80
10-13-13, 14:24
Norwegian90,
I went with Isabella from Spain on Wed evening. She went home on Friday evening. I agree she's a GFE gem. Also a real sweety. She"ll return to Palace later next month.Sorry, one more question. Was this your first time with her? I kind of don't understand why almost nothing has been written about this girl here on the Palace forum, is she normally" a Shark or what? Or maybe most of her customers, arent members on this site hehe who knows.
Norwegian90
Sorry, one more question. Was this your first time with her? I kind of don't understand why almost nothing has been written about this girl here on the Palace forum, is she normally" a Shark or what? Or maybe most of her customers, arent members on this site hehe who knows.
Norwegian90Wed night was my 3rd time with her. Not my style to report blow by blow everything that happens in the room between me and the girl. Isabella is no shark to me. There is also no upselling with her either. What I really like about her are both the air of innocence and passion she projects. Have no idea why there are no reports of her previously. She doesn't hurt for business either when she's at the club.
I'm not in the Palace for many months and I'd like to ask if these girls, Mirella Paulina Camilia, back to Palace. I feel maybe these girls gone for ever but maybe someone knows something? Also very sexy Jacky, I heard that still works, but I've never seen.
Thank you for all the information.
Interesting report. That's why I avoid Palace parties in the first place.
Saskia has no implants. All natural. Maybe you mixed her up with another one.
Interesting that Kathi was not seen on Friday night. May be smart of her to avoid Palace's notoriously sucky parties. She was there last night and walked around a lot. Did not seem busy. But then again, the whole day and evening yesterday favored punters as far as choices.Unfortunately I did not know it would be a party night.
Saskia was definitely Saskia. I have sessioned with her before, and she confirmed she was Saskia. I did not recall any implants previously but looked like she had them now. Its possible I made a mistake and it was just that her costume was pushing her tits into a shape typical of silicones. The nipples were sticking out very pointedly. I did not touch them so could have been fooled. Maybe without the costume, her tits might have looked a lot more natural.
Tonight I was back at palace after long time half year.
It's pretty deception.
There was a lot of girls and mens as always, minimum 80 of each.
40 % of girls had silicon boobs, then it's still difficult to find girls with very nice body, 'nice ass, natural boobs and pretty face, and not arrogant!
In fact if you didn't have limit on money, it will be difficult to spend all your money without to be cheated.
I had a total of 2 sessions :
First with a German brunette, about 24 years old. 1m74, medium long hairs.
I didn't remember her name but she she was working a short time in Oasa, then I saw her late April in Shark and now she is at palace. Very clean and correct girl, nice sleem body, no cheat, good time for 100 with cim.
Then I met Vanessa. Ro also brunette with nice ass, more spicy than German girl, about 23 years old.
She was very hot and was remember me well from last time at. Palace.
During dinner I had opportunity to speak with an American very nice guy who knows this forum, he should recognize himself.
Hi all,
I'm heading to FKK Palace next week and, although I've been before I have a question for those more experienced than me:
Has anyone every negotiated with a girl in a FKK Club to take pics / film her? (in the room only)
I'm really into this but need advice on whether it's possible or not.
Do some girls allow this for extra? If so, how much extra?
Would there be any consequences if the club found out?
Thanks for your help!
Was a dreary day outside. Cold and drizzling with rain. Arrived at the Palace about 4:30PM. Not many girls in evidence.
Oh shit, its Octoberfest party day. Parties at the Palace are notoriously bad. I was going to have to put up with girls in Dirndl costume (the special October Fest outfits).
I decide to go with Soda (Thai). The chemistry is not really perfect. She is quite suspicious about me. I assure her I have been to the Palace many times and know the prices. Her BJ is very soft and slow. She is quite expert at this but not to deep throat. BJ scores an 8+. Sex was very nice in various positions. Pussy is a good fit and she does have a very cute ass (her best feature) for doggy. Sex scores an 8. Face 7, body 8. Not really GFE, so overall performance perhaps 7. Quite good as a start girl, but I would have preferred Di-di (Thai) for more GF type sex, if she was present (or Bee or Nina in the past). Repeat? Well only if nothing better available.
Soda summary: Face 7, body 8, Chemistry 6, GFE 5, service 8.
Went with Arisu (Deu / Iran) after she ate dinner, and she explained that was very busy for the Automechaniker Messe, but not for the Book-fair, and girls like to stay away when its a crap party night. Sex in various positions was good scores 8. Overall performance good but not exactly GF sex. Repeat? Again, would probably not repeat unless couldn't find anything better.
Arisu summary: Face 8, body 7, Chemistry 7, GFE 7, service 7.
I decide to take Stella (Deu) , even though the body is not quite what I go for. Face is at least very pretty. Even Stella did not like the German Octoberfest music (fortunately there was variety). Its a long time since I had a session this poor at Oase or World. Did have an even worse one at Sharks recently that was cancelled after 10 mins but that one was only 50 wasted.
Stella summary: Face 9, body 7, Chemistry 5, GFE 0, service 6...Hello Szyzgies,
Good report from Palace. I guess you missed seeing the attached flyer advert for the Oktoberfest party on Friday. 11 Oktober 2013.
Hi all,
I'm heading to FKK Palace next week and, although I've been before I have a question for those more experienced than me:
Has anyone every negotiated with a girl in a FKK Club to take pics / film her? (in the room only)
I'm really into this but need advice on whether it's possible or not.
Do some girls allow this for extra? If so, how much extra?
Would there be any consequences if the club found out?
Thanks for your help!Fluffer69,
From my experience, my photo sessions with girls have been unpaid on the part of the girl who is having their picture taken. You do the movies or stills in the confines of the closed door room. Not the sort of thing to be doing in public where prying eyes of management can be seen.
I know that in the NRW clubs that some girls charge the standard rate of 25 euro for stills as if it were an extra, but most times if pictures are allowed then it has been for no extra money apart from paying for the time in the room. However, the proviso is that the girl knows you are you have built up a rapport prior to the picture taking request.
Maybe in Frankfurt clubs we are talking a 50 euro extra cost but as said before my experience is pictures and filming have been for nothing extra since I know the girl.
Banana Boi
10-24-13, 22:02
When I look at the Palace lineup on other boards it seems to be dominated with German, Czech, Polish, and Hungarians with very few Romanians / Bulgarians. Is that the case?
How many girls would be at Palace on a Tuesday night around midnight? Saturday late afternoon 3 to 8 pm?
When I look at the Palace lineup on other boards it seems to be dominated with German, Czech, Polish, and Hungarians with very few Romanians / Bulgarians. Is that the case?Take a look at Szyzgies recent visit report below and you will se how few, if any, Romanians are mentioned.
Palace has always been renown to have a more mixed working girl population.
PussyLiccker
10-26-13, 15:25
The line-up at Palace isn't that bad IMO. There are a good variety. We all know there is an epidemic of raising the price for standard services or GFE as others calls it. Another aspect I don't like about this club is the whole place is set up as an hunting round for the WGs. Ther is no relaxation area besides the entrance bar, and pretty much rest of the club is open for girls to easily spot you and attack you. No where to go(except for a secret lounge I recently found), you can only from from one corner to another. And they will keep coming at you, and there are the real persistent ones, I don't know why I attract the Latinas but a Dominican I was not interested in kept coming at me over and over again even after multiple rejects. A Brazilian girl I kept rejecting kept coming at me too, and I told her no every time. I got free cop and feel of her puss. I didn't mind that. I knew she would give me good service after her multiple attempts so I went to the room and she was indeed a freak. Next time, I may just go to Palace to just feel out the tits, ass, and puss of all the girls and leave. I kinda like the challenge of getting these pros to do what I want for 50e.
Hello Szyzgies,
Good report from Palace. I guess you missed seeing the attached flyer advert for the Oktoberfest party on Friday. 11 Oktober 2013.You are right. Is very important to check for the party dates so that can be sure to miss them, and that particularly applies to the Palace where party nights are notoriously bad. Maybe the parties can be fun in other clubs but I seriously doubt it at the Palace.
I probably did not do any Romanians, as although they were no doubt present, perhaps not sufficiently good looking, or too pushy, or just giving off an arrogant vibe. This may have been a mistake. The line up was a bit weak I am sure.
It is very noticeable that when I used to go to the Palace every week about 3+ years back, I was mainly doing Asian and Latin, e. G. Kimmi Brazil, girls. The Romanian ones were not so interesting at the time.
I did like a few Romanians back in 2005 like Daniella, Katrin, (I. E. The very pretty ones) but seemed to move away from Romanians over the years until I changed over to Oase and World where I do over 90% Romanians (is there anything else much?). All my favourites are Romanian too.
So I think the quality of Romanian girls is better elsewhere from the Palace.
PussyLiccker
10-26-13, 21:01
Actually, this was a long time ago (Auto Messe 2011) , but I believe it was a Friday for Saturday night and 150 girls were in that tiny club that one night. I haven't seen so many girls in a club. It was a time when FRA clubs(Oase and Palace) were filled with girls. The line-up was maximum and there were girls of all kinds, and it was nice, but of course the room waits the girls hated, since they had to spend an hour giving you GFE while waiting for the room. LOL. I've liked the Palace party for those reasons, but I've been to World parties and I will not ever go to a World party again. Girls to men ratio is like 10:1 or worse from what I saw.
After a lot of research decided between Palace and Mainhattan- Frankfurt. Finally decided on Mainhattan- Frankfurt and started walking towards the Main Station at 12 PM and suddenly don't know what happened but I saw a Taxi and hopped into it and asked to be dropped at palace. From my hotel it was about 15 Euro to palace (HI Express near the industrial estate). Walked into the reception and was greeted by a man who was very helpful in giving all the information and showed me around.
Took the bathrobe and a towel hot the shower and walked around. It was about 1 PM and there were about 10 men and 20 women. Took a coke and went near the pool and laid on one of those chairs around it. Was approached by a few women (from Holland, Romania, German, France). I politely rejected them telling that I just came in and eanted to rest a while as I was tired from a long flight. They were also very polite not very pushy, you just need to smile and talk to them politely and they treat you the same.
1. Swan (Holland) Height: 6'5" Huge assets Face: 6 MILF (definately in her mid 30s): My LB was already all excited seeing all the naked girls walk around and was ready and roaring to start the sessions. Swan, she had approched me earlier and I said no. She came again asked if I was ready now and sat on my hard LB stroking it with her pussy. I asked her what was included in the basic 50 Euro. She said just suck and fuck. I asked her I needed DFK, CIM and Boob massage. She said 100 Euro for 30 mins. I was fine with it and started heading into the room. She held my hand and guided me to a decent room. I sat on the sofa admiring her huge ass while she made the bed with the fresh sheets. She then laid on the bed and invited me into it. I jumped in and kissed her whole body and then we had a nice DFK session for about 5 mins, followed by her kissing my body and then started the BBBJ which I would rate it at 7. Then she came on to 69 and sat on my face and did the BBBJ for a while and then I rolled her over did miss and then doggy for a while and asked her to finish off with CIM and man she did a fine job, again the 69 and I was admiring and kissing her awsome curvy ass and she kept on with the BBBJ. I came after a few mins and she swallowed every drop of it. Then she cleaned me properly and laid by my side as we had some time left. She spoke real good english and told me that she did visit india a couple of years ago and also knew a lot about India. We talked for about 10 mins on various topics, she said that now a days a lot of customers were very unhappy due to the sharky attitude of the girls and she warned me not to go into the room without talking what you wanted. She also told that the girls from Romania were the ones that I should be a bit more careful with. Then we walked out to the locker gave her the money got a kiss from her and then I head to the shower.
I would rate the overall session at about 8. It was followed by 2 more sessions, one with Soda and another with a girl from jamaica. I will report them soon.
Visited Palace last Friday afternoon. Not many girls, about 10-15 at various times. Mostly Romanians, Russians, Italians, Poles, a few Germans, and one Iranian. Not many clients either. So the atmosphere was quite relaxing. Almost all the girls approached me, and the standard is 50 Euros for oral and sex in 30 mins. CIM + DATY is another 50 Euros within the same 30 minutes. So in a sense, prices have gone up. I remembered when I visited last year, I could have oral, sex and DATY for the same price.
I did two Italian girls, Nicolata and Kathy (she has an exotic Latino look) because they were the only ones with natural boobs and great figures. Damage was 100 Euros for oral, sex, DATY and CIM in 30 mins. Good GFE for both, and both are good chatters.
I tend to avoid the Romanians, Russians and Poles who are pushy and would short change if given a chance. Anyway, I like the relaxing atmosphere in Palace despite the higher price. I tried the RLD once, but it was too mechanical and impersonal.
Eddy
Banana Boi
11-03-13, 20:40
Visited Palace last Friday afternoon. Not many girls, about 10-15 at various times.
Newbie report to palace 24-10-2013.....It was about 1 PM and there were about 10 men and 20 women.So we have 2 reviews now from a Thursday and Friday afternoon both indicating less than 20 girls working in the afternoon. I was considering doing the businessman special but with these reports need to rethink my plan.
What time do most of the Palace girls start working? When is prime time (ie. When I can find the most girls) at Palace?
Hessen Bub
11-03-13, 20:45
Palace has always been a night club. Best time to visit if you want the full line-up is Friday and Saturday from 7pm.
HB
PussyLiccker
11-03-13, 20:52
There is a window, I forget exactly, but I would say from 5 to 8 is when the maximum line-up is there with fewer men. Around 9 the men start rolling in, and after that the girls have enough men to shark on, and it's the best times for them to up-sell. I think earlier from 4-8 should be ideal time to see the line-up there and get a decent service, if you can get it.
This place is not Oase, it's a fairly small club and during the day, most clubs are dead. The number sounds about right for daytime.
Banana Boi
11-03-13, 21:27
Thanks HB and PL. I have a very small window to try Palace. Obviously the other Big 5 clubs take priority over Palace but I am determined to try Palace this trip.
Right now, my options would be:
Tue. 4 pm to 7 pm.
Tue. Midnight to 3 am.
Wed. Noon to 2 pm businessman special (Dessous :( )
Sat 3 pm to 6 pm
Which would most likely have the most girls?
Hessen Bub
11-03-13, 22:21
Tu or Sat.
HB
Visited Palace last Friday afternoon. Not many girls, about 10-15 at various times. Mostly Romanians, Russians, Italians, Poles, a few Germans, and one Iranian. Not many clients either. So the atmosphere was quite relaxing. Almost all the girls approached me, and the standard is 50 Euros for oral and sex in 30 mins. CIM + DATY is another 50 Euros within the same 30 minutes. So in a sense, prices have gone up. I remembered when I visited last year, I could have oral, sex and DATY for the same price.
I did two Italian girls, Nicolata and Kathy (she has an exotic Latino look) because they were the only ones with natural boobs and great figures. Damage was 100 Euros for oral, sex, DATY and CIM in 30 mins. Good GFE for both, and both are good chatters.
I tend to avoid the Romanians, Russians and Poles who are pushy and would short change if given a chance. Anyway, I like the relaxing atmosphere in Palace despite the higher price. I tried the RLD once, but it was too mechanical and impersonal.
EddyI was there this past Friday too and it was slower than most regular Fridays. Nov 1 was a public holiday for some states (not Hessen) and girls were saying people were taking off early for the long weekend.which is exactly what I did, LOL. Still, there were enough girls (60-70) and a good ratio by 10pm.
Prices have NOT gone up at Palace. For 50 EUR you should be able to get standard BBBJ, a couple of positions, and DATY. CIM is extra.
Neither of the two girls you did is Italian. They're both Romanians.
Nille Copenhagen
11-03-13, 23:28
Prices have NOT gone up at Palace. For 50 EUR you should be able to get standard BBBJ, a couple of positions, and DATY. CIM is extra.Thumbs up WW,
I have said the same earlier but no one seems to believe me, you can get decent service at Palace for the standard price.
Come on guys get in to the game and play ball!
Neither of the two girls you did is Italian. They're both Romanians.Haha, shame on you for ruining Eddylanes impression, but you nailed it!
Palace has always been a night club. Best time to visit if you want the full line-up is Friday and Saturday from 7pm.
HBFunny, when I used to go to the Palace regularly, I turned up at opening time on Saturday, there were always at least one or two good girls around then, and I had my regulars. I would have breakfast and get in my first session. Then leave with pass out card and return later in the day, perhaps 5PM or 6PM, when more girls started arriving, and in time for dinner. Not sure if opening time on Saturday still has sufficient good girls. Bee (Thai) is gone for just nearly 3 years now. She was always a good start to a Saturday. I guess Nicholetta is still there first up on a Saturday, arriving dressed like an office worker, LOL, and working office hours too. Perhaps she creates the image of an office girl for someone.
So for me Palace was always a day time (Saturday) and early evening club. The day shift girls were often better for service, and I always hated it once it got too late. The very late girls were typically (generalising somewhat) looking for quick turn over and 15 min customers (or less). Recently a girl refused me, late when I offered to take her for a whole hour. No way her pussy was going to take a an extended fuck.
Solo Traveler
11-04-13, 02:22
I saw FKK Palace showed "11. 11 Karnevalserφffnung" on their website.
Does it mean that it will be a party day on November 11?
What's the difference between "a party day" and "a normal day" in a FKK club?
(Girls will wear dessous? Entrace fee go up. Etc)
I guess Nicholetta is still there first up on a Saturday, arriving dressed like an office worker, LOL, and working office hours too. Perhaps she creates the image of an office girl for someone.How many of you remember this same Nicoletta way back in 2002-3 at Atlantis? She was by her own admission "Romanian" in those days. Back then, being a Romanian was a bit exotic, at least at Atlantis, which had so many other nationalities, esp. German girls, Russians, Ukranians, Lithuanians, Poles, etc, etc. Only when she moved to day-shift at Palace (about 9 years ago?) she suddenly became Italian, LOL!
Amazing she's still working. She, along with Angelique and Czech Hannah (at Sharks now? Or is it Mainhattan?) are the ex-Atlantis girls still in the game. Are there any others still around, I wonder?
O
How many of you remember this same Nicoletta way back in 2002-3 at Atlantis?
OUnfortunately I started at the Palace 2004 and think Nicholetta was already there. I have No Atlanta experience. First tried Alice (dom) at FKK Phoenix about the same year and she moved to Palace shortly afterwards or probably was just visiting Phoenix.
Hessen Bub
11-04-13, 09:45
How many of you remember this same Nicoletta way back in 2002-3 at Atlantis? She was by her own admission "Romanian" in those days. Back then, being a Romanian was a bit exotic, at least at Atlantis, which had so many other nationalities, esp. German girls, Russians, Ukranians, Lithuanians, Poles, etc, etc. Only when she moved to day-shift at Palace (about 9 years ago?) she suddenly became Italian, LOL!
Amazing she's still working. She, along with Angelique and Czech Hannah (at Sharks now? Or is it Mainhattan?) are the ex-Atlantis girls still in the game. Are there any others still around, I wonder?
OSure I remember Nicoletta. And many many others.
Maria (DomRep) , her sister Kathi (DomRep) are still working, sometimes at Palace, sometimes in Munich. Judith (Hungary) quit a few weeks ago. Linda (Greek LOL) is still working, saw her at Sharks. Jennifer (DomRep) at Artemis. Victoria (Poland) at Oase. And some other girls.
HB
I was there this past Friday too and it was slower than most regular Fridays. Nov 1 was a public holiday for some states (not Hessen) and girls were saying people were taking off early for the long weekend. Which is exactly what I did, LOL. Still, there were enough girls (60-70) and a good ratio by 10pm.
Prices have NOT gone up at Palace. For 50 EUR you should be able to get standard BBBJ, a couple of positions, and DATY. CIM is extra.
Neither of the two girls you did is Italian. They're both Romanians.WW, thanks for your correction. I am an infrequent visitor of FKKs so would not know the girls like you do. I guess the two girls claimed to be Italian to avoid the bad reputation of Romanian girls. However, the bottom line is they provided good service and I was happy with it.
Eddy
Sure I remember Nicoletta. And many many others.
Maria (DomRep) , her sister Kathi (DomRep) are still working, sometimes at Palace, sometimes in Munich. Judith (Hungary) quit a few weeks ago. Linda (Greek LOL) is still working, saw her at Sharks. Jennifer (DomRep) at Artemis. Victoria (Poland) at Oase. And some other girls.
HBOh yeah, that's right girls like Victoria Linda (Gr) used to work at Atlantis before their long stints in Oase. I had forgotten.
Linda: She started off with quite a bitchy attitude back then (at least to me) , esp. For such a young new-to-the-business girl: I remember clearly when I was sitting on one of those white leather couches opposite the pool. She came to sit next to me and tried to talk me into the room. When I politely declined, she then had the "balls" to tell ME to move off of "her" couch to leave room for another potential male customer. LOL For anybody who doesn't clearly know who Linda is, she has a rather conspicuous tatoo on her right shoulder and long black hair. Used to be slim and leggy, almost a generic "Romanian" look to her. Now at Sharks, eh?
I had not realised that Jennifer, the cappucino-skined sex bomb from Atlantis 2000-3 was still in the game at Artemis. I remember some great bbbjs from her in the bar / lounge area at Atlantis, which was the part of the club she used to hang out. There was a whole cadre of DM girls in the corner of the club, if I remember correctly.
But as this is the Palace thread, I'll end here by saying that once Atlantis closed, I initially felt that Palace was the closed re-incarnation of Palace amongst the clubs open at that time. Indeed maybe more Atlantis girls relocated to Palace initially than any other club. Thinks have changed at Palace so much since the mid-2000s, alas.
Maybe the current managers of Palace should get together for an espresso with Mauro over at BHH and consider writing a handbook of "How to Ruin a Good FKK Club in 5 Easy Steps."
O
See attached flyer for FKK Palace's Carnival party on Monday. 11 November 2013.
Not just for a real feast revelers.
Whether you are a real carnival fanatic or someone who simply does not miss any opportunity to party: This year the 11 November falls on a Monday, not only is this day the annual kick-off to the new carnival season, but also a must for all FKK Palace disciples. The club can be in a figurative sense to represent the start position and there will be the blowing of confetti cannons for this year's carnival opening with delicious Kreppel and free beer until you drop! Speaking of "blowing". Of course, any amount feierwόtiger girls at Palace are present that will make the whole thing degenerate into a real event clowns!
See attached flyer that FKK Palace's Christmas party is on Friday. 6 December 2013.
Christmas Party on St. Nicholas.
The "Palace Christmas season" is year after year is very special, of course. 2013 is no different. On the one hand there is the Christmas party on Friday. 6 December. Then there is the more "worldly" free beer highlights galore, Casino pleasure or even a raffle with a fabulous prize, namely a flawless diamond! On the other hand, however, awaiting guests of course very "heavenly" specialties, such as all sorts of delicacies stocking the Christmas buffet as well as entertainment, the live-pleasure with Keith Sanders, the provider of acoustic highlights will be felt under the Christmas tree and this is called The Christmas Party. At 19.00 clock the event starts.
Its well worth making a special note of the Palace Party dates so that you can give them a big miss.
I made the mistake of arriving at Palace parties this year two times by accident.
Problems:
Too many guys.
Too many of the good girls missing on purpose.
Girls over-dressed.
On the plus side:
Can't think of anything at all.
Palace parties are notorious non-events.
Do yourself a favour and go on the day before the party instead.
I also attended the World Halloween party and it suffered from lack of rooms too. However girl line up was quite okay.
Sex in the kino was a possible remedy to room shortage.
Banana Boi
11-11-13, 23:12
Its well worth making a special note of the Palace Party dates so that you can give them a big miss.I always wonder if Yakob posts these party dates to get us to go or as a warning not to be anywhere close to the club on that date. I take it as the latter. I considered going to Samya today but they were having some sort of party so I just stayed at GT.
I always wonder if Yakob posts these party dates to get us to go or as a warning not to be anywhere close to the club on that date. I take it as the latter. I considered going to Samya today but they were having some sort of party so I just stayed at GT.I think Yakob is a bit of a party animal. LOL I am so glad I missed the World anniversary party, as I read reports about how hoorific it was in terms on quantities of men.
PussyLiccker
11-12-13, 02:57
Do yourself a favour and go on the day before the party instead.Actually, this leads me to an interesting idea / question. This goes with what BB experienced at DV. He was saying that there was maxmum line-up because it was getting close to Messe, but I guess it wasn't when the boat load people show up. I'm wondering, if you plan a visit before a major Messe, whould the line-up be the same as the next day when the Messe starts? Like the FRA Auto Show for example. You go the day before the Auto Show crowd shows up. Do these girls show up around the Mess times, not exactly the Messe days?
It's not considered a party, but I was at Palace when the Messe was happening, and there were 150 girls. It wasn't bad IMO. Yes, wait times, but you get more time with the girls on the couch which is nice, but I will say this though, fuck World parties. Never will go to one again. It was so bad, I'm afraid of club parties now. PTSD. :(
Actually, this leads me to an interesting idea / question. This goes with what BB experienced at DV. He was saying that there was maxmum line-up because it was getting close to Messe, but I guess it wasn't when the boat load people show up. I'm wondering, if you plan a visit before a major Messe, whould the line-up be the same as the next day when the Messe starts? Like the FRA Auto Show for example. You go the day before the Auto Show crowd shows up. Do these girls show up around the Mess times, not exactly the Messe days?
It's not considered a party, but I was at Palace when the Messe was happening, and there were 150 girls. It wasn't bad IMO. Yes, wait times, but you get more time with the girls on the couch which is nice, but I will say this though, fuck World parties. Never will go to one again. It was so bad, I'm afraid of club parties now. PTSD. .I like going to Palace or any other fkk during the football, but during meaning on the game day while the actual game is on.
Then all guys are watching the game at home, pub etc and all the good lineups are just waiting in the bar area of fkk. It is all good till the game is over, then. Whole city comes to the club for sex party. Usually as soon as game is over and tsunami of people come, I go for last one hour session, then I leave the club after.
Have you guys seen July / Joy (famous abdel tattoo from Frankfurt) or Kimmi (half Ge half Swedish from Berlin), both blonde German lately at Place? I just discover this forum and I saw someone mentioning July / Joy in earlier post. I thought she quit the job, but I do miss both of them as they were among my best line up and session.
TankTank123
11-17-13, 06:16
I went to check out Palace very late on Friday night at around 1 am after a 3 year break, ever since the Thai Bee left. I then clearly remembered why I gave up on it. It was thronged with men, probably 100, and most of the girls were sharkish and with Silicones. Upon entrance, I was immediately pounced upon by the 'Egyptian' who remembered me and asked to continue with her as in 2 years ago. What I remember, rather, 2 years ago was her abusive behaviour and I then had only 1 miserable session with her that was nothing but upselling. What is more, she is quite worse for wear now, and no longer even the cute young thing.
I had just one session, with the only attractive non-silicone girl I could find, a young brunette from Romania called Vanessa. She was very obliging in the room and did not upsell at all! After that session, there continued the parade of silicones, none of whom I found attractive enough to have another session. They seemed quite desperate as the multitude of men were just sitting around chatting. With no decent prospect in sight, I went back to Flemings hotel and resolved not to visit again.
I went to check out Palace very late on Friday night at around 1 am after a 3 year break, ever since the Thai Bee left.Thai Bee is gone almost 3 years now. I have heard she is doing well in another country and is soon opening a new business unrelated to FKK or sex. I was once her regular customer, every week.
A German buddy P (regular at Sharks) reported seeing Didee (Thai) at Palace on Friday, but she spent a very long time with one special customer, and can't be relied on to show up to Palace at all regularly. I would be happy to go there if I could be sure to find her.
A German guy R, who has been a Palace regular for many years specializing in Thai, Asian, and sometimes German girls, was seen at Sharks on Sunday afternoon when lineup was the weakest I have seen. He was like a fish out of water, not interested in Romanian girls. He didn't stay long. LOL There are of course no Asian girls at Sharks. I don't know if May(Thai) is still working at Oase. She would be upset by the new rules about not bringing her own food from outside.
Banana Boi
11-18-13, 21:18
First visit to Palace last night. I know it was a Sunday but this place is so overrated.
First off, Palace does not live up to it's name. The place looks old and dingy and I would classify it as a dump. The only thing nice about Palace was the rooms were decent. You know there's a reason why they keep the lights at Palace so dim. It's likely to hide the fact that 90% of the girls are over 30 and some well beyond that. A large percentage of them were also buffaloes. I went in expecting supermodels or some pretty tatted German girls and got none of that. Out of the 30+ girls who were there the only one I thought was really attractive was Kiarra who said she was German / Romanian. She looked a bit German so maybe she was. Even with big fakes I would have tried her out. She kept coming back to me but our timing between sessions didn't work out. I went with a Polish and a Hungarian girl with pretty faces but larger bottoms that I didn't see since they were sitting when I asked. No upsell pressure from either of them and a ok time with both.
I'm not sure if I will return here. If so it will be a late week night but I can't see myself choosing Palace over Sharks or Mainhattan if I'm in the area.
TankTank123
11-18-13, 23:18
I don't know if May(Thai) is still working at Oase. She would be upset by the new rules about not bringing her own food from outside.Yes, May was around on Sunday. I went with Thai Bee many times before she left. She would always give me a Thai style body to body massage with her pussy grinding my dick. And after I am aroused, she would magically slip a CD on and ride cowgirl without a second of break. After I have come, she would continue hugging me with her oily body for a good 5 minutes and DFK. All other girls would have scrambled to clean up. I have not found anyone matching her so far in Germany.
It's likely to hide the fact that 90% of the girls are over 30 and some well beyond that. A large percentage of them were also buffaloes. I went in expecting supermodels or some pretty tatted German girls and got none of that. .Surely you have read my comments, or HB's, previously about the percentage of sillies and percentage of buffaloes and lack of slim models with good face to go with it. It think it could be okay for guys into silly-cones and liking a bigger ass, if they know the right girls.
I had one quite good girl there this year Kathi, that I would repeat, and I have now given up on Alexa (with sillies). Reports are that Kathi has been at Sharks recently. I would only go to Palace now for Thai girl DeeDee or Nina or Mitsu (Jap) if she returned.
Banana Boi
11-19-13, 10:38
Surely you have read my comments, or HB's, previously about the percentage of sillies and percentage of buffaloes and lack of slim models with good face to go with it. It think it could be okay for guys into silly-cones and liking a bigger ass, if they know the right girls.Of course as well as many other warnings but I wanted the Palace experience of these supposed sharks and the upsell at Palace. I was even disappointed on that front since I didn't experience much sharkiness except from one girl or a hard upsell from the Polish girl I went.
TankTank123
11-19-13, 10:49
Surely you must have been sharked by the 'Egyptian'?
PussyLiccker
11-19-13, 11:25
Of course as well as many other warnings but I wanted the Palace experience of these supposed sharks and the upsell at Palace. I was even disappointed on that front since I didn't experience much sharkiness except from one girl or a hard upsell from the Polish girl I went.BB, sorry to hear about lackluster time at the Palace. I haven't been there since May (and I don't go there alot, went there twice that trip, never been there since although I want to go there on a auto messe day sometime) , and don't have recent intel. I recall you have stated that you went around 10. If you seek sharkiness, the time to go is around 6pm (maybe at 4?), but that's on busy days like Fri or Sat , when the line-up will be at peak and less men would be around, and they will shark the hell out of you. Although you will get sharked at any time once they see that you are fresh meat that just walked in. I don't know about 10pm on a Sunday night. I don't know about Sunday period.
I went on a Saturday and a Friday, and I did see some nice girls there, I don't recall seeing too many 30 year olds when I went, but you did go on a Sunday. One nice girl was maybe 20 yro Romanian, and the other was German Stella, Nordic looking blond with the pretty blue eyes, probably 23? No silly cones for me. Even the 3rd one I went with, a Brazilian girl, no silly cones. No up-sell from Brazilian, as I have rejected her like 10 times that night, and she would grab my hand and have me slide my fingers on her puss every time she would come by. lol. She forced me the PussyLickker to lick her puss by shoving her puss on my face. She turned on her Brazilian music on her phone, got against a wall and started shaking her ass at me and approached her I started to slide my D on her ass. she kept calling my poppy. lol. The Romanian had a pretty face and good DFK and GFE. I think stella has a tatoo, but it's to cover her scar. Not sure about the line-up there on Sunday. I would think Sunday night would be slower at FRA, but if it was filled with men, then that's the reason for less sharkiness. Girls there know business, they know who to prey for. Although I was preyed alot, and it's not really smart to shark me. This is how sharky it was when I went, a girl would come by, I reject, next one would come by, one after another. LOL.
BB, sorry to hear about lackluster time at the Palace. I haven't been there since May (and I don't go there alot, went there twice that trip, never been there since although I want to go there on a auto messe day sometime) , and don't have recent intel. I recall you have stated that you went around 10. If you seek sharkiness, the time to go is around 6pm (maybe at 4?) , but that's on busy days like Fri or Sat, when the line-up will be at peak and less men would be around, and they will shark the hell out of you. Although you will get sharked at any time once they see that you are fresh meat that just walked in. I don't know about 10pm on a Sunday night. I don't know about Sunday period.
I went on a Saturday and a Friday, and I did see some nice girls there, I don't recall seeing too many 30 year olds when I went, but you did go on a Sunday. One nice girl was maybe 20 yro Romanian, and the other was German Stella, Nordic looking blond with the pretty blue eyes, probably 23? No silly cones for me. Even the 3rd one I went with, a Brazilian girl, no silly cones. No up-sell from Brazilian, as I have rejected her like 10 times that night, and she would grab my hand and have me slide my fingers on her puss every time she would come by. LOL. She forced me the PussyLickker to lick her puss by shoving her puss on my face. She turned on her Brazilian music on her phone, got against a wall and started shaking her ass at me and approached her I started to slide my D on her ass. She kept calling my poppy. LOL. The Romanian had a pretty face and good DFK and GFE. I think stella has a tatoo, but it's to cover her scar. Not sure about the line-up there on Sunday. I would think Sunday night would be slower at FRA, but if it was filled with men, then that's the reason for less sharkiness. Girls there know business, they know who to prey for. Although I was preyed alot, and it's not really smart to shark me. This is how sharky it was when I went, a girl would come by, I reject, next one would come by, one after another. LOL.I always get upsell at Palace, but if the girl looks good, I just pay it after I negotiate with her what we do in the room for paying that price. I had one of the best experience at palace actually as intense session, it was with German kimmi. I wish there is way around it, but upsell girl is upsell girl and if you don't pay service is shit, so if the girl is real beauty and certain actions I want is promised to be delivered then I go for it instead of having bad session bad night. Generally, I say no to those upsell if the girl is not exactly to my taste.
Suller Joe
11-27-13, 11:44
Haven't seen Alice from DR in a years. Unlucky? Anyway I miss her. She wasn't the sweet and soft type, but. MAN. She knew how to get me going. Used to bone her twice in a row the times I got to her. As we got into the groove she started to moan things in spanish. I miss those words, those titties and her French.
Would be grateful if someone happens to know where she is.
Haven't seen Alice from DR in a years. Unlucky? Anyway I miss her. She wasn't the sweet and soft type, but. MAN. She knew how to get me going. Used to bone her twice in a row the times I got to her. As we got into the groove she started to moan things in spanish. I miss those words, those titties and her French.
Would be grateful if someone happens to know where she is.I only went to Palace 3 times this year but Alice was there all 3 times. Usually was a Friday night.
Haven't seen Alice from DR in a years. Unlucky? Anyway I miss her. She wasn't the sweet and soft type, but. MAN. She knew how to get me going. Used to bone her twice in a row the times I got to her. As we got into the groove she started to moan things in spanish. I miss those words, those titties and her French.
Would be grateful if someone happens to know where she is.Sorry can't help you, but if you like DR girls in general, the whole starway 39 in Taunusstrasse is full of them.
Suller Joe
11-27-13, 17:01
I only went to Palace 3 times this year but Alice was there all 3 times. Usually was a Friday night.Thanks, I'll try that. Guess she can not possibly be in as good shape as she used to be, but I hope she has some left.
Will be interesting to see if the has altered her menu. It was a bit restricted at times.
Suller Joe
11-27-13, 17:07
Sorry can't help you, but if you like DR girls in general, the whole starway 39 in Taunusstrasse is full of them.Interesting. Can you tell me where Starway 39 is? Getting no help from Google.
Interesting. Can you tell me where Starway 39 is? Getting no help from Google.It's actally the Taunusstrasse streetnumber. It's in the Frankfurt RLD.
It's actally the Taunusstrasse streetnumber. It's in the Frankfurt RLD.Here some info:
http://ffm-forum.com/T39.htm
Went to Palace last month, and sessioned two times with a thai girl named Di-Di. She is not as good looking as the young thai girls I session with in Thailand (Di-Di is in her thirties) , but the session is by far one of the best I have experienced in a FKK. Her pussy is small and tight, and she knows how to milk my cock empty. First sessions was 1 hour, and after sex I think she would prefer only to massage me for the rest of the time, but when there was 10 minutes left I told her to spread her legs again, which she did. After the session with Di-Di I had 2 miserable sessions other girls, so went with Di-Di again before I went back to my hotel. Her BJs are only ok (5/10) , but her pussy makes up for that. Miss this girl.
Thanks, I'll try that. Guess she can not possibly be in as good shape as she used to be, but I hope she has some left.Alice still looks damn good. Age is not a problem. Unfortunately we are not totally compatible in the room. She is a bit finicky and insists on using the London Condoms. Not much of a kisser and BJ is not soft enough for me to enjoy it. Doesn't really like DATY for any length of time. If you don't a total GFE, then will okay I guess.
Went to Palace last month, and sessioned two times with a thai girl named Di-Di. She is not as good looking as the young thai girls I session with in Thailand (Di-Di is in her thirties) , but the session is by far one of the best I have experienced in a FKK. Her pussy is small and tight, and she knows how to milk my cock empty. First sessions was 1 hour, and after sex I think she would prefer only to massage me for the rest of the time, but when there was 10 minutes left I told her to spread her legs again, which she did. After the session with Di-Di I had 2 miserable sessions other girls, so went with Di-Di again before I went back to my hotel. Her BJs are only ok (5/10) , but her pussy makes up for that. Miss this girl.I have never seen any Thai girls in the Hessen FKKs that are really stunning. They tend to make up for it in performance though. I don't recall Di-Di's BJ being as low as 5/10 (too long ago now). Definitely one of the good girls at Palace but pity she attends so irregularly. 4 years back I used to session with Bee, Di-Di, Nina (all Thai) , and Mitsu (Jap) and hardly did any Romanian girls. The current crop of regular Asian girls at Palace are not up to the old standard. Bpum is okay (if she still works there). Soda was rather so-so, not quite GFE.
Went to Palace last month, and sessioned two times with a thai girl named Di-Di. She is not as good looking as the young thai girls I session with in Thailand (Di-Di is in her thirties) , but the session is by far one of the best I have experienced in a FKK. Her pussy is small and tight, and she knows how to milk my cock empty. First sessions was 1 hour, and after sex I think she would prefer only to massage me for the rest of the time, but when there was 10 minutes left I told her to spread her legs again, which she did. After the session with Di-Di I had 2 miserable sessions other girls, so went with Di-Di again before I went back to my hotel. Her BJs are only ok (5/10) , but her pussy makes up for that. Miss this girl.Di-Di was working last night at the club. She doesn't work there as often as she used to as she has a regular job outside of the business. Still has a nicely shaped petite body and very friendly.
I have never seen any Thai girls in the Hessen FKKs that are really stunning. They tend to make up for it in performance though. I don't recall Di-Di's BJ being as low as 5/10 (too long ago now). Definitely one of the good girls at Palace but pity she attends so irregularly. 4 years back I used to session with Bee, Di-Di, Nina (all Thai) , and Mitsu (Jap) and hardly did any Romanian girls. The current crop of regular Asian girls at Palace are not up to the old standard. Bpum is okay (if she still works there). Soda was rather so-so, not quite GFE.Stunning Thai or Asian working girls in general don't work in FKKs. They can command much higher rates as escorts.
JamesPearle
11-29-13, 18:41
Hello from Texas!
My first time in Germany coming up in December. Will be one week in Dusseldorf. I want to have a quality experience and don't really care about cost. I just started doing research and see there are two uniquely German experiences. 1. Mixed nude non sexual saunas and 2. Mixed nude erotic saunas. What is the absolute best of both of these venues? Any suggestions on how to have the best experience possible in a short amount of time?
Thanks gentlemen!
StarletVoyager
11-30-13, 05:27
I've never heard of non sexual saunas in Germany. However for the best experience easily done by cab if cost isn't a factor go to Frankfurt and visit fkk Oase and fkk sharks. The totally nude experience of european girls is only found in Germany, austria and switzerland worldwide and is a must do if in this part of the world. Enjoy. dusseldorf to Frankfurt is 1hour 30 mins by train so to find a way to get down to Frankfurt would be worth it for the ultimate best time.
TankTank123
11-30-13, 08:42
1. Mixed nude non sexual saunasIn these 3 places that I have been to, you will find a hundred totally nude women and men in a vast complex of non sexual saunas and large swimming pools. On weekends, there will be younger women and couples; but mainly retirees on weekdays. They are:
Kristall Therme in Ludwigsfelde south of Berlin, Kristall Therme in Klosterlauswitz near Weimar, and Therme Erding north of Munich.
I had brought one of my FKK Colosseum regulars for a day out at Therme Erding before, to do a lot of nude swimming and smooching in the pool and finding empty saunas to smooch in while building up a sweat.
Unfortunately for you, they are very far from Palace. I think Wiesbaden near Frankfurt might have something similar but smaller in scale, but I have not tried it.
Hessen Bub
11-30-13, 11:19
Will be one week in Dusseldorf. 1. Mixed nude non sexual saunas anMόnster Therme in Dόsseldorf.
Claudius Therme in Cologne.
Mediterana in Bergisch Gladbach-Bensberg.
HB
Hello from Texas!
My first time in Germany coming up in December. Will be one week in Dusseldorf. I want to have a quality experience and don't really care about cost. I just started doing research and see there are two uniquely German experiences. 1. Mixed nude non sexual saunas and 2. Mixed nude erotic saunas. What is the absolute best of both of these venues? Any suggestions on how to have the best experience possible in a short amount of time?
Thanks gentlemen!An excellent nude non sexual spa is the Romanische spa in Baden Baden. It's next door to the big newer " family" spa. Very classy. You'll need 3 hours to fully enjoy it. Baden Baden is about an hour and half south of FRA.
JamesPearle
12-02-13, 00:49
Voyager & all,
Thanks for your advice and help. I am looking forward to having an amazing experience. I found a website offering first class transportation to and from your choice of saunas plus a translator / guide / wingman for a couple hundred bucks. That sounds like the simplest way to roll given I don't speak German and don't know my way around. Voyager, I hear your reco on Sharks / Oase. Thanks. Those will be at the top of my list.
Ok. I think one more question then I will be set for now. For the non-sexual spas. I realize that nudity is not a, big deal to Europeans but it is inconceivable that I would be in an environment with naked women and not have an erection. Would people overlook it from first time visitors or would I have to go out of my way to hide it?
That's it for now! Thanks again gentlemen!
I've never heard of non sexual saunas in germany. However for the best experience easily done by cab if cost isn't a factor goto frankfurt and visit fkk oase and fkk sharks. The totally nude experience of european girls is only found in germany, austria and switzerland worldwide and is a must do if in this part of the world. Enjoy. dusseldorf to frankfurt is 1hour 30 mins by train so to find a way to get down to frankfurt would be worth it for the ultimate best time.
I found a website offering first class transportation to and from your choice of saunas plus a translator / guide / wingman for a couple hundred bucksEach to their own but this type of expense is totally unnecessary. As an alternative you could have rented a luxury sedan with a satnav for 50 / day. Most of the girls in the clubs are Romanian / Bulgarian and in very many cases their English tends to be better than their German! Besides most Germans in the hospitality business speak English. You are getting a paid Wingman but I bet you could have bought yourself an ISG subscription with private mail and hooked up with a few fellow compatriots (in the clubs) for free off this board. I've done this in the past and it generally works very well. As the American's say "seriously dude!". This type of expense is not necessary and is possibly not the best way to roll. OK if you are a bunch of Japanese tourists with no English and culturally uncomfortable in a European country maybe yes. Buy yourself a subscription and pm me if you want advice and need someone to put together an itinerary for you which will include the bigger clubs.
Hessen Bub
12-02-13, 08:18
For the non-sexual spas. I realize that nudity is not a, big deal to Europeans but it is inconceivable that I would be in an environment with naked women and not have an erection. Would people overlook it from first time visitors or would I have to go out of my way to hide it?You should not walk around with an erection in a "normal" SPA. There's children around, and it is not a place for sexual encounters. If you want that. Go to a FKK or Sauna club.
HB
Ok. I think one more question then I will be set for now. For the non-sexual spas. I realize that nudity is not a, big deal to Europeans but it is inconceivable that I would be in an environment with naked women and not have an erection. Would people overlook it from first time visitors or would I have to go out of my way to hide it?Further to HB, non-sexual means non-sexual. If you cannot be non-sexual you are not welcome there. Get all your perving done at the FKKs first till you are so bored with nudity that you are not interested in perving. Only then can you go to a mixed Sauna just for the curiosity. Do not take any Viagra of course. That is just looking for trouble, as the slightest sexual thought can cause erections.
I have been years in Germany without going to a mixed naked Sauna. Why? Simply because I am not interested in Saunas as such, and I certainly would not go there just to perve. I have been to plenty of nudist resorts and beaches when younger, for non-sexual outings. Never saw anyone with full erections. Maybe the odd guy with a semi-hardon parading around trying to display the size of his cock and looking damn silly and Narcisist. FKK is much better for those that might be turned on. Oase in the summer is perfect for girls sunbaking with legs spread and pussy on full display. Take girls to a room spread their legs, and explore their beautiful pussies with your fingers (some girls allow) your tongue, and dick. FKK clubs have saunas too.
Please confine your perving to girls who accept to be perved on. If you happen to have an erection in FKK walking around, its normal or just giggle for the girls. Some guys in the showers have erections. Viagra overdose I guess, or maybe they use something to pump up the dick. There are no girls in the showers.
TankTank123
12-02-13, 11:34
An excellent nude non sexual spa is the Romanische spa in Baden Baden. It's next door to the big newer " family" spa. Very classy. You'll need 3 hours to fully enjoy it.If I recall correctly, it is only on one day of the week where couples can go through both sections together. In all other days, the men take a different route from the women, and they only meet at the large wading pool in the very last section. As such, the pervs will get little chance for erections. Pervs should instead go to the upstairs part of that newer large family spa next to it where it is FKK and there are many couples.
Last year, I left the Romanische spa after 1 hour as I could not lie still in the various heated rooms for too long, and hopped across to the neighbouring Therme. I was lucky that day to be able to ogle at a large group of young women who were spending the afternoon getting suntans at the solarium and coming out now and then to compare the overall tans they were getting. Had a towel to hide the erection.
StarletVoyager
12-03-13, 03:15
Just get on a train to frankfurt, once you arrive your lack of german or lack of bearings will not be an issue. You said cost is not an issue. Get into any biege merc cab and say fkk oase (45 euro each way). Also ask for fkk sharks (50 euro each way) from frankfurt main train station. Don't give up your freedom of movement and hard earnt cash on any guide as they will doubtless ask for more.
Member #4581
12-03-13, 04:08
I don't speak a word of German either. No matter. Many people speak English in Germany it seems, certainly in Frankfurt and around they did. I was in a grocery store, the cashier spoke no English when I had some issue, but immediately 2 ladies in the line behind me spoke in English to help me out. Just an example. This was in Freidrichsdorf, next to Mercure. Same on the trains and at hbf. I had some question about trains and just asked a teen age kid, he was apologetic about his English although he was quite good and happy to help.
It is easy to navigate. I find it is much tougher in Asia, even in HK, while in traveling in Europe, even southern EU is easier. For me anyway, and I am an American.
Also, my advice, even if you didn't ask. Skip the non sex spas and go to fkk. They have plenty of girls walking around, full nude. At Oase, some showers are between session rooms, you are taking a shower and drying with a towel and plenty of naked girls walking. Heck, you can sit fully naked in kino and get blow job or even fuck with so many other men and girls watching.
Voyager & all,
Thanks for your advice and help. I am looking forward to having an amazing experience. I found a website offering first class transportation to and from your choice of saunas plus a translator / guide / wingman for a couple hundred bucks. That sounds like the simplest way to roll given I don't speak German and don't know my way around. Voyager, I hear your reco on Sharks / Oase. Thanks. Those will be at the top of my list.
Ok. I think one more question then I will be set for now. For the non-sexual spas. I realize that nudity is not a, big deal to Europeans but it is inconceivable that I would be in an environment with naked women and not have an erection. Would people overlook it from first time visitors or would I have to go out of my way to hide it?
That's it for now! Thanks again gentlemen!
JamesPearle
12-03-13, 11:52
Okay. I hear the message loud and clear. FKK only. I definitely don't want to walk where not welcome.
That said, I don't think it is a perv thing. I think its a human being thing. We are biologically evolved to be sexually interested in the opposite sex. It is impressive that you all have found a way to switch on / off millions of years of evolution so easily."If FKK spa nude women are sexually attractive. If normal spa,"What? Naked women? I hadn't noticed". LOL."
You should not walk around with an erection in a "normal" SPA. There's children around, and it is not a place for sexual encounters. If you want that. Go to a FKK or Sauna club.
HB
Hello friends,
I will be in Frankfurt from 2-5 January 2014. Money is not a problem, can anyone advise where to go and which is the best FKK, will there be any events during those days.
Information on this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Hessen Bub
12-06-13, 19:06
It is impressive that you all have found a way to switch on / off millions of years of evolution so easily."If FKK spa nude women are sexually attractive. If normal spa,"What? Naked women? I hadn't noticed". LOL."That's the next level of evolution. LOL.
HB
NavidNavid
12-10-13, 02:00
If I am fortunate enough to have an eight hour layover in Frankfurt, which FKK would you recommend to me (newbie in Germany) , that I can utilise public transportation to get to, and have ample time to relax / shag?
Thanks
WorkTravel80
12-10-13, 21:34
If I am fortunate enough to have an eight hour layover in Frankfurt, which FKK would you recommend to me (newbie in Germany) , that I can utilise public transportation to get to, and have ample time to relax / shag?
ThanksThe Palace for sure! Easy to get to from the airport by public transportation or in taxi. Have fun, and give the girls a kiss from me haha.
Norwegian90
Depends when and what time you land. Being a newbie and sounds like you're on a budget if you're doing public transportation. Best to keep away from Palace unless you're saving 500 for a BBBJ. Wiser to invest 35 taxi to Oase and you'll get more miles for your money or Bang for your Bucks.
Mainhatten. Another good choice.
The Palace for sure! Easy to get to from the airport by public transportation or in taxi. Have fun, and give the girls a kiss from me haha.
Norwegian90
WorkTravel80
12-10-13, 23:02
Depends when and what time you land. Being a newbie and sounds like you're on a budget if you're doing public transportation. Best to keep away from Palace unless you're saving 500 for a BBBJ. Wiser to invest 35 taxi to Oase and you'll get more miles for your money or Bang for your Bucks.
Mainhatten. Another good choice.I have always gotten miles for my money and bang for my bucks there, even on my very first visit to the club. So I do not agree with you. Seems like its just me and Nille that can recommend the Palace to others, and don't mind the sharks" in the club. They do exsist, but it isn't that hard to avoid them. One need to be patient and feel" up the girls a little. We men are the ones with the power". (because we have the money to spend) It is imporant to do some smalltalk to feel up the girl of your choice. NavidNavid, my advice to you is to read the forum for useful information, on how to avoid the most sharky girls etc and how to behave in a club like that. Good luck, and enjoy your time.
Norwegian90
WorkTravel80
12-10-13, 23:05
I remember on myfirst visit as a newbie, I had sex with 3-4 women, and they all provided a real GFE, without extra charge. No upselling for bbs for example even got some discount on some anal. THis forum helped me alot, thats for sure. So just be polite and be a gentleman and things will most probably go very well.
Norwegian90
I have always gotten miles for my money and bang for my bucks there, even on my very first visit to the club. So I do not agree with you. Seems like its just me and Nille that can recommend the Palace to others, and don't mind the sharks" in the club. They do exsist, but it isn't that hard to avoid them. One need to be patient and feel" up the girls a little. We men are the ones with the power". (because we have the money to spend) It is imporant to do some smalltalk to feel up the girl of your choice. NavidNavid, my advice to you is to read the forum for useful information, on how to avoid the most sharky girls etc and how to behave in a club like that. Good luck, and enjoy your time.
Norwegian90It's not just you and Nille. I also agree with you. Palace has seen its ups and downs, but I've always managed to have an OK time there, even if I thought other places were better. During my last visit, I actually thought Palace was the best among the FKKs I patronized in terms of good looking girls and the service I received! Since I am not a regular living in Germany, I don't know if that was an aberration or what. But, the line-up was good, and I managed to have some very good sessions (even if Gina didn't let me lick her butt hole out as before!). Any "sharkiness" there has never bothered me. We're grown men and should be able to handle a young, conniving tute who might try to get one over on us. If one only has an 8 hour layover, I would definitely say hit Palace (or Mainhattan} rather than spend time going out to Oase. You'll burn up more time than you realize getting to Oase and back. Going to Palace will allow you to move at more of a leisurely, unrushed pace. As Norwegian says, just take some time and get to know a girl just a little bit. If somebody is trying to rush you into a session, then get rid of her. And whatever you do, if she's still there, don't session with Alexandra the fake Egyptian who probably doesn't even know what salaam alaikum means!
PussyLiccker
12-11-13, 02:00
If I am fortunate enough to have an eight hour layover in Frankfurt, which FKK would you recommend to me (newbie in Germany) , that I can utilise public transportation to get to, and have ample time to relax / shag?
ThanksI'd recommend Mainhattan if you are newbie. Don't want you to start out in a shark infested water. There has been some positive reports by another newbie Egoboy on the Maintattan threads.
Amriptna111
12-11-13, 04:35
I'd recommend Mainhattan if you are newbie. Don't want you to start out in a shark infested water. There has been some positive reports by another newbie Egoboy on the Maintattan threads.Yup I was ripped to shreds there. Worst punting experience. Skip Palace.
I'd recommend Mainhattan if you are newbie. Don't want you to start out in a shark infested water. There has been some positive reports by another newbie Egoboy on the Maintattan threads.I will be in Frankfurt for on Dec 23. Which club will offer more hot girls? Palace or Manhattan? Thanks a lot!
PussyLiccker
12-21-13, 12:39
I will be in Frankfurt for on Dec 23. Which club will offer more hot girls? Palace or Manhattan? Thanks a lot!It depends on what type of girls you like. If you like pornstar looks, Palace is it. Most girls are at least mid 20s there.
Mainhattan has the more girl next door type younger Romanian girls that are pretty. I like the choice of girls at Mainhattan more than the Palace since I like younger pretty girls and the service level is much better for 50 euros. Even though girls at Mainhattan offers extras, they don't seem to up-sell all that much. It's still wise to be choosey as I had ones that seem to have good vibes outside the room, but inside she started up-selling like a mad woman. Interestingly, either the girls are smart in providing good service for better business or like somebody else said, management could be enforcing a 3 strikes you are out rule. I personally like this club because girls usually spend the time to get to know you, not packed with men, has a nice relaxing wellness area where girls usually not approach men, and most importantly, the girls I think are the prettiest do provide great services.
If you like girls at Artemis or pornstar looks and vibe, and don't mind spending 100 euros a 30min session, then Palace could be worth checking out. Optics wise, I think Palace has good looking girls, but their sharky attitude keeps me from visiting frequently. Expect to be up-sold at Palace such as additional 50 euros for kissing (that's not even DFK!).
Which club having hot girls I cannot say since our taste may be different. I can say Mainhattan has pretty girls and Palace has hot girls. I think of hot as playboy model types.
It's your choice, hot girls that up-sells or pretty young girls that provide good services. If you feel like exploring, try both and give us reports of what you think of both clubs.
Thank you so much for your insight. I have been to Palace several times during the past few years and I firmly agree what you said. I will definitely try Manhattan this time since I am also interested in young pretty girls than pornstar-look girls. Are most girls at Manhattan Romanian? In my previous experience, I try to avoid them because of the cheapness of most Romanian girls. I had good experiences with Romanian girls as well but relatively less likely.
It depends on what type of girls you like. If you like pornstar looks, Palace is it. Most girls are at least mid 20s there.
Mainhattan has the more girl next door type younger Romanian girls that are pretty. I like the choice of girls at Mainhattan more than the Palace since I like younger pretty girls and the service level is much better for 50 euros. Even though girls at Mainhattan offers extras, they don't seem to up-sell all that much. It's still wise to be choosey as I had ones that seem to have good vibes outside the room, but inside she started up-selling like a mad woman. Interestingly, either the girls are smart in providing good service for better business or like somebody else said, management could be enforcing a 3 strikes you are out rule. I personally like this club because girls usually spend the time to get to know you, not packed with men, has a nice relaxing wellness area where girls usually not approach men, and most importantly, the girls I think are the prettiest do provide great services.
If you like girls at Artemis or pornstar looks and vibe, and don't mind spending 100 euros a 30min session, then Palace could be worth checking out. Optics wise, I think Palace has good looking girls, but their sharky attitude keeps me from visiting frequently. Expect to be up-sold at Palace such as additional 50 euros for kissing (that's not even DFK!).
Which club having hot girls I cannot say since our taste may be different. I can say Mainhattan has pretty girls and Palace has hot girls. I think of hot as playboy model types.
It's your choice, hot girls that up-sells or pretty young girls that provide good services. If you feel like exploring, try both and give us reports of what you think of both clubs.
Hessen Bub
12-22-13, 10:55
At Mainhattan as at Oase, Sharks and World there's more than 70% Romanian girls.
HB
I was at Palace 2 months ago, and to be frank I didn't notice much of this negative tendency most of the germans talk about here. Sure the girls tried to upsell in the room, but so it seems like the standard is in all FKK clubs now Except for maybe one or two girls in some clubs.
I was at Palace for 2 nights, and had several sessions. I remember a thai girl, one girl from shanghai, two Polish girls with silicon (a blonde named Chanteal I believe, and her dark haired friend) and a Romanian (Anabella). And they all were quite service oriented. Maybe one of the Polish girls had too big tits, so she had to protect them which was a bit of a turn off, but on the other side the shanghai girl made me pop twice. Second time just 5-10 minutes after the first. And she didn't ask for more than 50. Although I did give her an extra tip.
The 3rd day I was at Oase, and compared to the 5 girls I had at Palace, only Natasha at Oase could compete in terms of looks. Natasha's service was perhaps the best, but the other Oase girls I've had in the past did not provide any better service than the Palace girls did. Most actually gave worse service.
. Sure the girls tried to upsell in the room, but so it seems like the standard is in all FKK clubs now Except for maybe one or two girls in some clubs.Asking for extra's is one thing, refusing certain services is another. Only at Palace have I ever had girls tell me its extra for DATY, kissing etc.
At Mainhattan as at Oase, Sharks and World there's more than 70% Romanian girls.
HBSince most girls working at Manhattan are Romanian and many of them will go home for Christmas, will Manhattan lack pretty young girls? I will be there tomorrow on the 23rd. Could Palace be a better choice for tomorrow? Thanks a lot for sharing your prediction.
I don't come to Europe very often so that I try to the most out of it.
The Palace for sure! Easy to get to from the airport by public transportation or in taxi. Have fun, and give the girls a kiss from me haha.
Norwegian90Can you please tell me which bus I need to take and which bus stop to get off?
What is the "business tariff" for 75 EUR? Is this only entrance fee for two hours or is sex included?
Hessen Bub
12-29-13, 12:22
In none of the FKK clubs sex is included in the entrance fee. That's only for flatrate or Pauschalclubs.
Business tariff: You pay 75. If you leave the club within 2h you'll get 25 back. Valid before 4pm.
HB
ShoesAndSocks
12-29-13, 12:39
Can you please tell me which bus I need to take and which bus stop to get off?Take the train (U6 towards Praunheim or U7 towards Hausen) and get off at Industriehof station. Cross the road and head straight on for 5 mins. Should see Palace on the left.
StarletVoyager
12-30-13, 09:04
Get a cab for 10-12 euros from the centre of frankfurt. 35 euros if you want from the airport.
I was back to Palace after my last visit 2 years back. I was worried from the reports about sharks and upselling, but still I chose to go there as I had nice memories there and this is where I started my FKK experience. The new renovations are much better from my last visit and it is completely changed.
Due to proximity to Christmas, many girls were travelling, nevertheless there were many girls to choose from.
I went at 9pm and I had a great time with 2 girls from Bulgaria and Romania. No issues at all. Both girls were great and no shakiness. There is the normal upwelling but if you just tell them that you are not interested, they are fine with it.
I went for standard 30 min. Session with the Bulgarian girl while I agreed to CIM with the Romanian girl and I am happy that I did. Her BBJ skills were unbelievable and she took it like a champ although she did not swallow.
Palace is still a great place to be.
It depends on what type of girls you like. If you like pornstar looks, Palace is it. Most girls are at least mid 20s there.
If you like girls at Artemis or pornstar looks and vibe, and don't mind spending 100 euros a 30min session, then Palace could be worth checking out. Optics wise, I think Palace has good looking girls, but their sharky attitude keeps me from visiting frequently. Expect to be up-sold at Palace such as additional 50 euros for kissing (that's not even DFK!).
Which club having hot girls I cannot say since our taste may be different. I can say Mainhattan has pretty girls and Palace has hot girls. I think of hot as playboy model types.
It's your choice, hot girls that up-sells or pretty young girls that provide good services. If you feel like exploring, try both and give us reports of what you think of both clubs.Is it 100E for 30 mins at Palace? That seems much higher than other clubs in FRA.
No. Cost per half hour in FKK Palace is 50 (same as elsewhere in Frankfurt Hessen).
Reference to a higher charge probably relates to upselling which can occur in the room but in my opinion this is often overstated.
If you can handle yourself and can deal with 20 something year old hookers you should be ok.
Best to avoid visiting this establishment when the large Messe / Trade Fairs are happening.
FKK Palace can get crazy busy and hooker service levels can drop off big time.
Is it 100E for 30 mins at Palace? That seems much higher than other clubs in FRA.It's 100E for 31 minutes of service which is considered an hour. Same rates as other clubs except you get ripped off for 29 minutes.
It's 100E for 31 minutes of service which is considered an hour. Same rates as other clubs except you get ripped off for 29 minutes.Sarcasm notwithstanding, you can go a couple of minutes over and still pay 50 EUR. Tell the girl and on your way out, just talk to the lady sitting at the desk where the room keys are dispensed. She's there from 7pm until closing. Of course, if you're a regular and she recognizes you, it helps. Done this a few times and never once did this become an issue. Palace is not the place to be timid about this. If you act like you're willing to give in to the girl's demand, then you will be cleaned at the cash box.
Forcharles
01-08-14, 06:54
It's 100E for 31 minutes of service which is considered an hour. Same rates as other clubs except you get ripped off for 29 minutes.I can confirm Akibono's statement. I was charged 100EU for 33 minutes. When we first entered the room, I told the girl I only wanted to pay 50EU for a half-hour session and I set my watch alarm. The lady's timer at the desk did not sync with mine. I protested, but with no avail. It's a ripoff, believe me!
Citizen Kane
01-08-14, 07:58
I would ask to have the girl back in to the room for 27 minutes.
So at Palace your hour begins when the girl gets the key and not when you enter the room? 3 minutes could easily pass by the time the girl grabs the key until she closes the room door.Particularly when the girl then decides to go for a shower or some other BS!
Since they introduced the clock system at Palace, some girls seem to take it as a challenge to waste as much time as possible once the clock is running. They should use those start / stop clocks they use for Chess!
Just avoid the place.
Hessen Bub
01-08-14, 21:24
It's 100E for 31 minutes of service which is considered an hour. Same rates as other clubs except you get ripped off for 29 minutes.This can happen at any club.
HB
This can happen at any club.
HBBut in Palace it is the norm. When not a regular guest, a good session below 100 euro is scarce.
In the smaller service clubs in NRW, this will normally not happen (but of course incidentally, with a new sharky girl, stlll can be true, so when only wen the girl is not a regular in this club!).
PussyLiccker
01-09-14, 03:42
I've had this happen at other clubs also, but I would't be surprised if it happens more at Palace than others.
Is it 100E for 30 mins at Palace? That seems much higher than other clubs in FRA.
I was exaggerating a bit because it is commonly known that Palace girls charge extra 50e for kissing and they like to upsell, so 100e for 30 would be typical there. Just letting him know of the reality of things at Palace to help him decide.
I've had this happen at other clubs also, but I would't be surprised if it happens more at Palace than others.
I was exaggerating a bit because it is commonly known that Palace girls charge extra 50e for kissing and they like to upsell, so 100e for 30 would be typical there. Just letting him know of the reality of things at Palace to help him decide.I have not seen clock watching and alarm stuff in other FRA clubs like Oase, Mainhatten etc? This seems to be unique to Palace.
Other places you agree for 30 mins and the girl manages the time- that is preagreed so no 31 mins surprise. Also I did not notice girl noting time or anything. Also kissing BBJ is included- the reception tells you all that upfront.
Solo Traveler
01-09-14, 08:30
It seems that things are going insane in Palace gradually.
I saw a newbie posted a report of his experience in Palace in another forum.
The girl told him "50 is for covered suck& covered fuck" and "If you pay extra 50, I will do the blowjob without condom and kiss you".
This newbie disagreed to pay extra 50, so the girl did the blowjob with condom and didn't kiss at all.
So, right now, in Palace, kissing cost extra 50 seems to be the norm.
However, it's obvious that the girls are still not happy about it.
They still keeping downgrading their service, and try to squeeze any extra money as they can.
Especially the "If you pay extra 50, I will do the blowjob without condom" part is totally fucking bullshit.
What will be next in the near future?"If you want to do more than one position during sex, you have to pay extra 50"?
Jesus, how come a girl in a FKK ckub become as sharky as those red light district bitches?
Hessen Bub
01-09-14, 15:12
But in Palace it is the norm. When not a regular guest, a good session below 100 euro is scarce.
In the smaller service clubs in NRW, this will normally not happen (but of course incidentally, with a new sharky girl, stlll can be true, so when only wen the girl is not a regular in this club!).Getting a good session below 100 at Palace is also scarce for regular customers.
But there's a difference between getting a good session for 50 and a girl charging you 50 for going over the half hour by 1 or 2 minutes.
HB
Kirk Lazarus
01-09-14, 16:00
When in Frankfurt, I don't go to Palace any longer. Too many hustlers. I venture out to the other FKKs. Seems like members here are knowledgable enough to not get taken by the girls at the Palace, but that business from "tourists" who are new at the FKK is what's keeping the engines running at this place.
Forcharles
01-11-14, 06:11
I've stopped the Palace venture about a year ago. It used to be my favorite spot. No longer. There are just too many other clubs in the area that have girls willing to give you good service rather than the constant upselling turnoffs and ripoffs at Palace. At first I thought it was just bad luck or poor choice, which can happen in any club. But now its just the norm at Palace. My time is valuable in Germany and I prefer to have a reliable and enjoyable time. Maybe I'll give Palace a try again. But for now, its time out for Palace.
Hi,
I have been several times to Palace and Oase and find these the best. Mainhattan have visited twice and don't like it. Maybe the girls are not my type in Mainhattan.
As so many complain about Palace, please advice if in Frankfurt area (short distance) any other FKK club to visit that would have as good line up?
Hi,
I have been several times to Palace and Oase and find these the best. Mainhattan have visited twice and don't like it. Maybe the girls are not my type in Mainhattan.
As so many complain about Palace, please advice if in Frankfurt area (short distance) any other FKK club to visit that would have as good line up?Of all the clubs in the Frankfurt area, Palace sees the highest traffic of non-local visitors and naive sex tourists because of its central location and proximity to the Messe arena. This also attracts more sharky hookers than other clubs. Put that combination together and you are going to see more reports of bad experiences than other clubs. It's the law of numbers at work. As a Palace regular, I have a fairly good idea which girls are sharky and to avoid. They also don't bother me and leave me alone anyway. On any given night, there are anywhere around a dozen girls whom I know deliver consistently solid service and that's good enough for me in between sauna sessions, dinner and a few drinks.
Regarding optics, Palace does offer more choices and greater diversity. The lineup this past week was quite good considering that it's still early Jan and a number of popular girls are still on holiday. However, there was a Messe this past week so the club was packed, especially on Thursday and Friday when the ratio was crazy. I just left early to avoid the hordes on both nights.
Mainhattan is more homogeneous in terms of types and looks of girls. It also lacks atmosphere. The place can be downright dead and boring even in the evenings during the week.
Recently tried a black girl named Tyra. I would guess mid-20s. She claimed to be Jamaican but I believe she has lived in Berlin for over a decade. About 170 cm without heels. Complexion is dark enough that you wouldn't think she is mixed like Dominican Alice, but not as dark as that really skinny black girl at Sharks with surprisingly no ass (Daisy sp?). Although Tyra's skin is dark, I'd believe her if she told me she was perhaps Ethiopian or Eritrean, as Tyra almost has a more European like face. One thing that is not European is her incredible ass. The thighs, hips, and waist are all small. But the ass is disproportionately round, meaty. I have only ever found this body type amongst black girls. Her frame is thin with long runway model like legs. Breasts were only A-cup. Long straight lower back length hair with Cleopatra style bangs. In the room, I found her passionate. Laughs and enjoys her time with you, non-clock watching, no-upselling. Didn't feel like a business transaction, which is exceedingly rare for Palace
After visiting Palace a years ago I have tried Oase several times (very good) , World (very good) , Mainhattan (nice girls, but a special club set-up) and at last Sharks. Based on many good reviews I decides to try Sharks, unfortunately on a Sunday. Arrived around 10 pm just to find the club crowded by men and very few attractive women. Fortunately I was lucky to meet a very nice girl Eliana (?) from Latvia.
Decided to move to Palace. The club was partly changed since last time, but to the better. Lot of attractive girls, and in contrary to the other clubs, much more diversity. Variation in age, nationality, looks, etc. Some of the girls are certainly more active than in other clubs, but still smiling, polite and professional- can you ask for more?
For a whole day visit during summer, I may still choose Oase or World. For a shorter visit Palace is perfect.
. Based on many good reviews I decides to try Sharks, unfortunately on a Sunday. Arrived around 10 pm just to find the club crowded by men and very few attractive women. Fortunately I was lucky to meet a very nice girl Eliana (?)Wassab will be pleased to know that his MILF Iliana the Latvian is around at Sharks.
Wassab will be pleased to know that his MILF Iliana the Latvian is around at Sharks.Indeed, Dufey. I will be sure to attend the Sunday that I an in Fra to see if I can meet up with Eliana.
Cheers
I think to go to party, I was not for a long time here, and wonder for some girls like always. Jacky, Brazil. Germany, very horny sexy girl. Paulina, Bg / sloven, she was Marilyn at party last year but I don't see her since. Mirella, the most nice girl, someone say she work Sharks? I know Janita is away.
Slither,
If you must go to Palace, let it be on a non-party day. Palace parties are notoriously awful in my opinion. Complete non-events and many better girls staying away. I have been to 2 Palace parties last year by accident. Did not have a good time, and only found one girl worth repeating at all.
Palace is not like it was in its hey-day. Years ago I was a regular most weeks. Now I don't bother. There are some natural good looking gazelles (not that many), but finding a great service without lots of upsell questions is not that easy.
Party was good. Mabe I write more later. But very full and much wait for the room. Paulina there bit I was not with her, I go with very nice Polish girl Sara and have great time. 2 hours in the room and can be more.
Good morning gents,
I will be making my way to FKKs 2/14 to 2/6 and wondered if I ask about entry fees at the following establishments (I've heard there are more pricing options these days including early entrance and entrance with alcohol?).
Palace.
Oase.
Mainhattan.
Thank you
Good morning gents,
I will be making my way to FKKs 2/14 to 2/6 and wondered if I ask about entry fees at the following establishments (I've heard there are more pricing options these days including early entrance and entrance with alcohol?).
Palace.
Oase.
Mainhattan.
Thank youWhat sort of girls do you like? If voluptuous siliconised girls, then Palace is paradise, but if you like slim natural models like me, you might want to consider Sharks, specially with special cheap entry on a Sunday before 2PM. Easy train trip to Darmstadt Nord at the right times of day, e. G. 11. 25, 13. 25, etc. Sharks is not good for return past 12. 30AM though (Last train from Darmstadt).
Right now, my club preference order is: Sharks, World, Oase, Mainhatten, and forget Palace. If you are new to it all, you might well enjoy any club. World and Sharks appear to have less girls trying to upsell to more expensive services than the other clubs, in my experience.
Perhaps you write off World and Sharks as being too far away, which is understandable. However it takes me less time to get too Sharks than Mainhatten. The Palace is walking distance for me but still I don't want it.
Entry fees are typically around 65 to 75 Euros (check web sites for more details) , except when they have a special price which can be a very good discount.
Good morning gents,
I will be making my way to FKKs 2/14 to 2/6 and wondered if I ask about entry fees at the following establishments (I've heard there are more pricing options these days including early entrance and entrance with alcohol?).
Palace.
Oase.
Mainhattan.
Thank youIf you had stated you have been to these places several times, might have helped to understand the point of your questions better.
for the number of times i have visited frankfurt, i'm surprise i haven't rented a car yet too. maybe its the language barrier and / or the speed. ifor the note below and replying to my mainhattan inquiry. i usually end up at oase and palace due to ease of transportation. haven't been to world in two years and haven't been to sharks.
i'm not much of writer and haven't been able to contribute to this forum like yourself and others who write great proses of their conquest but i have been an fkk monger for over a decade. almost there from the start.
i tried pming you but it said you aren't accepting i'm. mind if you pm me? just want to personally thank you for your contributions to the board. you are a legend imo. lol.
i will be in fra from thursday to sunday.
what sort of girls do you like? if voluptuous siliconised girls, then palace is paradise, but if you like slim natural models like me, you might want to consider sharks, specially with special cheap entry on a sunday before 2pm. easy train trip to darmstadt nord at the right times of day, e. g. 11. 25, 13. 25, etc. sharks is not good for return past 12. 30am though (last train from darmstadt).
right now, my club preference order is: sharks, world, oase, mainhatten, and forget palace. if you are new to it all, you might well enjoy any club. world and sharks appear to have less girls trying to upsell to more expensive services than the other clubs, in my experience.
perhaps you write off world and sharks as being too far away, which is understandable. however it takes me less time to get too sharks than mainhatten. the palace is walking distance for me but still i don't want it.
entry fees are typically around 65 to 75 euros (check web sites for more details) , except when they have a special price which can be a very good discount.
The "Business time" promotion on the Palace website states "take advantage of our business rate for any 2 hour period. 10am to 4pm". Does this mean that one has to leave by 4pm or someone can go to the club say just before 4pm and leave by 6pm?
It is going to be my first time ever to any of these FKK clubs in Frankfurt and for that matter in my Life. I have never been to a FKK club and so don't know what it is? Have been once to the RLD in Amsterdam. So If it is for the first time which of the FKK do you guys recommend here in Frankfurt don't wish to travel outside of Frankfurt just to visit a FKK club. I have had a friend visit "The Palace" and he was going Ga-Ga over it he had a terrific time there, but then I come across some comments here by people that the girls at the " The Palace" do a lot of upselling, which could be a kind of turn off and also some guys saying here that the girls at the Palace are Snooty? Is that correct? My friend didn't have any such experiences nevertheless what do you guys suggest? I am really curious about the "The Palace" Have heard some great stories and reports from my friend who had been there.
I look forward to all natural, strictly no silicone boobs. A mix of brunette and blonde's in their Early 20's till early 30's. But have to be like extremely beautifuland good looking girls so which place does that have to be?"The Palace"?
Also is kissing a no in these places? Do the girls straight away refuse for a French kiss? Or does it depends from case to case basis. When I am putting up a deal with the girl do I talk about this upfront with here? Or what? And by the way what do they charge normally?
Hessen Bub
02-11-14, 09:35
Does this mean that one has to leave by 4pm or someone can go to the club say just before 4pm and leave by 6pm?The latter.
HB
Syzygies,
Did my reply show up? I've tried emailing but it says you do not accept emails. I would very much like to meet you as I have probably crossed paths with you during my visits over the course of 10+years. LOL. Feeling like an old timer. Will be in FRA thurs to Sunday this week.
What sort of girls do you like? If voluptuous siliconised girls, then Palace is paradise, but if you like slim natural models like me, you might want to consider Sharks, specially with special cheap entry on a Sunday before 2PM. Easy train trip to Darmstadt Nord at the right times of day, e. G. 11. 25, 13. 25, etc. Sharks is not good for return past 12. 30AM though (Last train from Darmstadt).
Right now, my club preference order is: Sharks, World, Oase, Mainhatten, and forget Palace. If you are new to it all, you might well enjoy any club. World and Sharks appear to have less girls trying to upsell to more expensive services than the other clubs, in my experience.
Perhaps you write off World and Sharks as being too far away, which is understandable. However it takes me less time to get too Sharks than Mainhatten. The Palace is walking distance for me but still I don't want it.
Entry fees are typically around 65 to 75 Euros (check web sites for more details) , except when they have a special price which can be a very good discount.
Slither,
If you must go to Palace, let it be on a non-party day. Palace parties are notoriously awful in my opinion. Complete non-events and many better girls staying away. I have been to 2 Palace parties last year by accident. Did not have a good time, and only found one girl worth repeating at all.
Palace is not like it was in its hey-day. Years ago I was a regular most weeks. Now I don't bother. There are some natural good looking gazelles (not that many) , but finding a great service without lots of upsell questions is not that easy.I was before often in Palace. Now only 1, 2 a year in Germany. I think, good luck with thw woman is most important if I go outside with smile. I did enjoy my evening. I think Pal still good, for me.
The latter.
HBThanks, HB. If that is the case, I might even solve my dilemma by trying both Palace and Mainhattan during one day then! Will see
StarletVoyager
02-13-14, 01:43
Palace was my first time in a frankfurt fkk back in early 2009. I think I had not yet joined this forum yet. It was incredible back then. 3 30 mins sessions with a blonde baltic beauty / a german stunner and lastly a Hungarian red head believe it or not. The girls seemed slimmer and prettier then. Look how silly my logistical planning was back in 2009. I flew into Hahn spent 2 hours on a coach into frankfurt in the rush hour and for a 4 night stay I only budgeted enough money for one visit to palace with just 1. 5 hours of room time. Now any trip of a week is continous indulgment! We live we learn! LOL
I have read some guys here saying this, that Amsterdam cannot beat Frankfurt in terms of being a Mongering destination that has come as a bit of surprise to me, because is Amsterdam not supposed to be world famous with its RLD? I have not been to the FKKS's in Frankfurt so I am not quite sure what the concept is? So have just seen one side of the coin. But can someone tell me how Frankfurt with its FKK's is better than Amsterdam. Would really love to read and understand how? And in what sense?
UltraHappy
02-15-14, 15:53
I have read some guys here saying this, that Amsterdam cannot beat Frankfurt in terms of being a Mongering destination that has come as a bit of surprise to me, because is Amsterdam not supposed to be world famous with its RLD? I have not been to the FKKS's in Frankfurt so I am not quite sure what the concept is? So have just seen one side of the coin. But can someone tell me how Frankfurt with its FKK's is better than Amsterdam. Would really love to read and understand how? And in what sense?Yes, the FKKs in Germany are much better than the Amsterdam RLDs. Better in cost and better in quality of service. All of this information is readily available by reading the appropriate threads here on the ISG forum. You can also visit both destinations to try for yourself but you will only arrive at the same conclusion.
Amsterdam has more in the way of other tourist attractions though. So, if you're there more for the tourism, then Amsterdam would be the way to go. If you're there for the great sex with hotties, then Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, and Cologne (Kφln) are the favored destinations.
This thread is for discussions about FKK Palace, not for these types of general FKK questions. For these type questions, you should post your inquiry on the "General Info" or the "German FKK Clubs. Lounge and chat area!" area.
I have read some guys here saying this, that Amsterdam cannot beat Frankfurt in terms of being a Mongering destination that has come as a bit of surprise to me, because is Amsterdam not supposed to be world famous with its RLD? I have not been to the FKKS's in Frankfurt so I am not quite sure what the concept is? So have just seen one side of the coin. But can someone tell me how Frankfurt with its FKK's is better than Amsterdam. Would really love to read and understand how? And in what sense?Ha Ha. Amsterdam Red Light is world famous. You turn up there one night and have a look. Your curiosity is then done. Its also famous for rip off girls and generally being under-whelming.
The Palace is not the best example of an FKK, but very satisfactory in comparison to the Amsterdam RLD.
FKK World should be world famous. Virtually guaranteed super time if U-turn up to World on a Friday or Saturday night when it is at its best. Right now, in Frankfurt, Sharks is my other recommendation. I don't know the Cologne and Duesseldorf clubs, but some are very highly rated.
The concept is simple enough at FKK, its like a nudist club, with many naked or near naked girls (could be 70 girls) available for sex. There is a lounge area where girls hang out and you can go around and meet them or try to avoid them and they will come to you. LOL. Basic charges are approx. 70 Euros for entry to the club, then 50 Euros per 30 mins you spend in a private room having sex with your chosen girl. There are some additional charges if you want something special, like anal sex. These clubs should have girls to suit every taste. Mostly the girls are young. Mostly they come from Romania and other East European countries, with sometimes the odd Latin or Asian girl thrown in, and even a few German girls.
Guys in the club are not completely naked, wearing a towel round the waist or a bathrobe. Each guy is given a locker to keep his clothes and other belongings. Food and drink is provided. Alcohol costs extra. Once you pay entrance fee, you can stay in club as long as you like till closing and only pay extra for sex time with the girls. Some guys spend the whole day and only fuck one girl, where others cannot resist fucking several girls over several hours.
Once in the Amsterdam RLD was more than enough for me. No desire to return. FKK clubs are addictive and we like to visit every week, and some guys are visiting multiple days per week.
Being in a large room with 50 to 70 naked hot girls (well not all hot to my taste) is a mind blowing experience till you get used to it. In the summer months, you can be outdoors with the naked girls if you choose, at many clubs with outdoor facilities.
I think I have covered enough for you to understand pretty well. Sometimes 30 mins in a room with a fantastic girl is not enough. I usually pay 100 for 60 mins and sometimes want to stay even longer with the girl. Not all girls have same attitude, same service, and same quality. Its up to you to find the best ones or get recommendations from this forum.
Yes, the FKKs in Germany are much better than the Amsterdam RLDs. Better in cost and better in quality of service. All of this information is readily available by reading the appropriate threads here on the ISG forum. You can also visit both destinations to try for yourself but you will only arrive at the same conclusion.
Amsterdam has more in the way of other tourist attractions though. So, if you're there more for the tourism, then Amsterdam would be the way to go. If you're there for the great sex with hotties, then Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, and Cologne (Kφln) are the favored destinations.
This thread is for discussions about FKK Palace, not for these types of general FKK questions. For these type questions, you should post your inquiry on the "General Info" or the "German FKK Clubs. Lounge and chat area!" area.I did realise that this place is in especially to talk about " The Palace" in Frankfurt and I had started by asking a question specific to "The Palace" it went unanswered. All the veterans here at "The Palace" who would like to chime in. Here's it again.
It is going to be my first time ever to any of these FKK clubs in Frankfurt and for that matter in my Life. I have never been to a FKK club and so don't know what it is? Have been once to the RLD in Amsterdam. So If it is for the first time which of the FKK do you guys recommend here in Frankfurt don't wish to travel outside of Frankfurt just to visit a FKK club. I have had a friend visit "The Palace" and he was going Ga-Ga over it he had a terrific time there, but then I come across some comments here by people that the girls at the " The Palace" do a lot of upselling, which could be a kind of turn off and also some guys saying here that the girls at the Palace are Snooty? Is that correct? My friend didn't have any such experiences nevertheless what do you guys suggest? I am really curious about the "The Palace" Have heard some great stories and reports from my friend who had been there.
I look forward to all natural, strictly no silicone boobs. A mix of brunette and blonde's in their Early 20's till early 30's. But have to be like extremely beautifuland good looking girls so which place does that have to be?"The Palace"?
Also is kissing a no in these places? Do the girls straight away refuse for a French kiss? Or does it depends from case to case basis. When I am putting up a deal with the girl do I talk about this upfront with here? Or what? And by the way what do they charge normally?
This is a fantastic forum. Thank you all who contributes.
I will visit Palace next month. This will be my first visit for almost a year, so I am wondering: Are there any new girls I should keep my eyes up for?
Anybody who deserves the title: Newcomer of the year?
StarletVoyager
02-17-14, 03:30
Goto sharks or oase for a better time
" The Palace" do a lot of upselling, which could be a kind of turn off and also some guys saying here that the girls at the Palace are Snooty? Is that correct? My friend didn't have any such experiences nevertheless what do you guys suggest? I am really curious about the "The Palace" Have heard some great stories and reports from my friend who had been there.
I look forward to all natural, strictly no silicone boobs. A mix of brunette and blonde's in their Early 20's till early 30's. But have to be like extremely beautifuland good looking girls so which place does that have to be?"The Palace"?
Also is kissing a no in these places? Do the girls straight away refuse for a French kiss? Or does it depends from case to case basis. When I am putting up a deal with the girl do I talk about this upfront with here? Or what? And by the way what do they charge normally?Your question can go unanswered purely because it does not appeal to anyone. Its a bit difficult.
Yes correct, many of the Palace girls are a bit difficult. There is a lot of Silicone and upsell there. They are likely to want to charge 50 extra for kissing. Many of us do not recommend the Palace for these reasons. Other clubs are recommended. If you want to say very close to Frankfurt central, then Mainhatten is a better option.
Extreme beauty? That is a tough one. Some people say 90% of the girls are gorgeous. I would say just 5%. I prefer clubs Sharks, World and Oase further out from Frankfurt, with more fabulous bodies to my taste and a few extremely pretty faces. It personal taste. Some guys say the Palace girls are very beautiful. I don't really agree. Hard to find a girl I want to fuck there. Overall there is too much silicone and too many overweight girls for me and the rest have the annoying upsell.
That is the best I can answer when you ask for impossible combinations of conditions.
Went 2 times to Palace last week end. Friday and Sunday.
First time arrived on Friday around 17h00. Already quite a few girls but mostly on the bigger side with silicone boobs and big asses. Didn't spot any petite cuties which are my favorites. I still like Palace though. The quality and the overall standard of the club just makes me come again and again.
Anyway as usual didn't take much time before girls were coming for business. Noticed this time that they were less aggressive and stayed polite and friendly even when turned down. Perhaps management has realized that the over aggressiveness of some was starting to turn customers away and they put in a few words.
As usual most girls looked damn hot from far but not that much after a closer look. Seemed like there was some new blood mixed with the always present old guard Inta and all.
A cute and slim mixed black came and she had the cutest face but was not ready to jump in yet. Noticed a tall blonde who was always seating at the same place, never going after customers. She was quite hot but never smiled so decided not to go after her. A Romanian girl, brunette with light colored eyes came and though her body was on the bigger side, decided to give it a try. The session was nothing exceptionnal but since it was the first pop of the day still felt good.
After a quick rest, got caught by one of the tall Polish girl who s been in Palace for years. Her face had quite aged but she still had that Porn Star look and wanting a PSE experience, gave it a go. Session was quite ok and she sure did a great job pumping on cowgirl position. Finished her doggie and felt wasted.
Took some time to recover and by 20h00 quite a lot of new girls had appeared with many new girls. A black haired Romanian girl called Natasha came by. She had a very nice face with slim and slender body and was really friendly. She seemd to have very little make up and natural boobs so to me had the girl next door type of look which I always crave for. Said she was quite new to the business with only 1 or 2 weeks experience. She was friendly but turned out to be too talkative which kind of ruined the session. Instead of turning friendliness into sweetness or playfulness for a great session, she just ruined it talking about private stuff like having no BF on Valentine s day and blablabla.
Would not repeat despite a really beautiful face
Left around 21h00 despite noticing a few lookers but was too wasted to stay.
Went back on Sunday afternoon just before my flight. Arrived around 13h00 and the place was as usual on Sunday Afternoon very quiet. But already a few doable girls. I actually like the Sunday afternoon atmosphere when the place is quiet and the girls also seem in a relaxed mood.
Got caught by a tall blondie who really had a porn star face and body. Forgot the name but something like frederica or something. She was cool with no upsell. Her ass was a real turn on and finished faster than expected.
After a rest, noticed that the same blonde who never smiled was still seating at the same place. She must have her regulars since never did she move from that chair to get some customers. It was tempting but decided otherwise.
Then by chance got seated next to a blonde German girl at the bar. She had tattoos of her cats names on her thigh. Face was pretty with a great slim body. Somehow she had an aristocratic way of talking and behaving which made her very attractive. Sorry forgot her name but she was fun to talk to so after a while decided to end my week end with her.
Session was good though she did not make any attempt to kiss. She really had the best body I had seen for a long time and the look of her pumping on cow girl was something to remember. Would definitely repeat.
Overall I still like Palace best. Oase is great but different. To me best is to visit both over the week end, best way to have different experiences.
BadinSweet
02-18-14, 18:30
Made a short visit to Palace on Thursday Feb 13th. Arrived at 10pm and left around 3am. I took a friend for the first time to Palace after I hyped him so much about how I love the place. This is his second visit to FKK with GT being his first earlier in the week. The first comment he made was "wow, the girls here are a lot older". I guess I'm so used to the Palace line up and never thought about this. But I have to agree with my friend here. Comparing to GT and Shark, Palace girls are a lot older and more on a professional side. I have been to Palace going on the 4th year. So I see all the familiar faces since my first day at the place. Though I still enjoyed my visit but I think I like Shark more now.
Girls I sessioned with:
Emmanuelle, from Yugoslavia but lives in Milan, tall, long brunette. 28, B cup, a little big hip, always hung out with her friend, Sabrina, short blonde. Of all the girls I have been with during my FKK visits she is my all-time favorite. She's a nice person and we get along just great. She would just hug me super hard during the session. Her BBBJ skill is excellent, and she would also lick you balls. Highly recommended if you have never been with her.
Natasha, ROM. 23, slender, long brunette, BBBJ but very teethy, light kissing. I wanted to try a new girl so I chose her. Nothing to write home about. The session was OK but I probably won't repeat due to her BJ skills.
Cindy, POL, one of the POL sister, tall, long blonde, great kisser, BBBJ, great session. I have been with her many times and always enjoyed the sessions. Recommend.
All the ususal suspects were there, Jenni, Kiara, Saskia, the Egyptian (ROM) , etc. There was this one blonde who I haven't seen before at Palace, she must be German since she always talk to Kiara. She has a long blonde, tattoo on the arm, has a very pretty face. I was going to grab her but she went home before I could.
My other favorite, Annabella, wasn't there. She said that she will be at Palace this week. I had a good time and will continue to visit Palace. But I think I will be going to Darmstadt more now, LOL.
UltraHappy
02-19-14, 03:42
I took a friend for the first time to Palace after I hyped him so much about how I love the place. This is his second visit to FKK with GT being his first earlier in the week. The first comment he made was "wow, the girls here are a lot older". I guess I'm so used to the Palace line up and never thought about this. But I have to agree with my friend here. Comparing to GT and Shark, Palace girls are a lot older and more on a professional side.Part of this phenomenon is explained by Palace's policy of not employing any girls under 21 unlike all the other FKKs. So, you will never find any 18, 19, or 20 year olds at Palace. Yet another reason to avoid this place.
Finnish Fucker
02-19-14, 18:19
Part of this phenomenon is explained by Palace's policy of not employing any girls under 21 unlike all the other FKKs. So, you will never find any 18, 19, or 20 year olds at Palace. Yet another reason to avoid this place.I have met some nice looking girls and great bodies in Palace over the 4 years of my FKK experience. These ones beat many of the 18-20 year old young putas in the other clubs hands down. With some exceptions of course. A 18 year old is not automatically hotter than a 20+ year old. Most of my best fucks in Germany have been over 21 years. But the ultimate body of all times, well she was 18.
"A woman is at her best at the age of 18 - or in the bed!"
I have met some nice looking girls and great bodies in Palace over the 4 years of my FKK experience. These ones beat many of the 18-20 year old young putas in the other clubs hands down. With some exceptions of course. A 18 year old is not automatically hotter than a 20+ year old. Most of my best fucks in Germany have been over 21 years. But the ultimate body of all times, well she was 18.
As said,"A girl is at her best at the age of 18. Or in the bed".How much are the chances of finding a good Blonde German girl in The Palace as I read most of the girls are from Romania and Bulgaria and ver few from Poland and nearby places.
Hessen Bub
02-20-14, 07:58
How much are the chances of finding a good Blonde German girl in The PalaceDefine "good".
Good looking: Chances are not too bad.
Good service: Chances are lower than in all other Hessen clubs. Sharks on some days does have 3. 5 German girls, some blondes.
HB
Define "good".
Good looking: Chances are not too bad.
Good service: Chances are lower than in all other Hessen clubs. Sharks on some days does have 3. 5 German girls, some blondes.
HBSo are you saying if I were to find a good looking German Blonde in "The Palace" service may be an issue? Any suggestions with names?
PussyLiccker
02-20-14, 13:16
Yes, it's not the problem of looks based on the last visits which was almost a year ago. I don't attend because I know it's highly likely that girls will provide a lousy time in the room for me. If you have gotten good service before, you know how lousy the service at Palace is. I don't think the looks are at that high of a level for me to risk bad service there.
Is Palace the right place for fake, large breasted girls? These are the type of girls I am looking for. I will be making my first visit to a FKK in July when I visit Frankfurt.
Thanks
Is Palace the right place for fake, large breasted girls? These are the type of girls I am looking for. I will be making my first visit to a FKK in July when I visit Frankfurt.
ThanksYou will find girls with silicon breasts in most clubs including Sharks, Mainhattan, Oase and World, but there tends to be a preponderance of such at Palace compared to is competitor clubs. I have a friend who says that Palace is the best club in Germany. But that is because he likes big titted blondes that let him come in their mouths as he is not so much into fucking. I say to him that Palace is full of upselling old women.
So are you saying if I were to find a good looking German Blonde in "The Palace" service may be an issue? Any suggestions with names?okay Stella is an example. Quite pretty face, better than most Palace girls, so I don't care how old she is. A bit overweight for me with saggy tits and sloppy ass. Plenty of upsell. No kissing, no DATY, a bad blow job (too much bite) , insisted on using the London condoms instead of my comfortable Gefuellsekt ones. In the end its not surprising my dick wasn't staying hard. She creates a stressful session instead of a fun one. For me, catastrophic session. When compared to wild passionate girlfriend type experiences with pretty Romanians with tight sexy bodies at other clubs, I just don't can't be bothered with searching the Palace girls to find the odd girl who might give a good session (but probably does not have the looks to a standard I prefer). If you like siliconised girls, then Palace has a lot more girls to choose from. In my case, I wipe out the sillies, the fatties, and the plain Janes, and not a whole lot of exciting looking girls left over.
Saskia gives a fair session but her body type is not quite my spec. Face a bit horsey so not really pretty. Session not good enough to repeat for me.
Nicholetta has been there for many years and gives a fair session but not German. There are some other good performers that I know, but they old and very ordinary looks, e. G. Angelica. Even the Thai girls like Soda and Bpum are not good enough to do it for me, and I used to be a big customer of Thai and Japanese girls (Bee, Didi, Mitzu, etc).
PussyLiccker
02-23-14, 09:40
I'll be happy if I can get a sloppy BJ and DFK from Stella.
okay Stella is an example. Quite pretty face, better than most Palace girls, so I don't care how old she is. A bit overweight for me with saggy tits and sloppy ass. Plenty of upsell. No kissing, no DATY, a bad blow job (too much bite) , insisted on using the London condoms instead of my comfortable Gefuellsekt ones. In the end its not surprising my dick wasn't staying hard. She creates a stressful session instead of a fun one. For me, catastrophic session. When compared to wild passionate girlfriend type experiences with pretty Romanians with tight sexy bodies at other clubs, I just don't can't be bothered with searching the Palace girls to find the odd girl who might give a good session (but probably does not have the looks to a standard I prefer). If you like siliconised girls, then Palace has a lot more girls to choose from. In my case, I wipe out the sillies, the fatties, and the plain Janes, and not a whole lot of exciting looking girls left over.
Saskia gives a fair session but her body type is not quite my spec. Face a bit horsey so not really pretty. Session not good enough to repeat for me.
Nicholetta has been there for many years and gives a fair session but not German. There are some other good performers that I know, but they old and very ordinary looks, e. G. Angelica. Even the Thai girls like Soda and Bpum are not good enough to do it for me, and I used to be a big customer of Thai and Japanese girls (Bee, Didi, Mitzu, etc).Ok how about some really beautiful rather gorgeous looking extremely pretty face, cute face brunettes with some B size Boobs so that's medium size boobs about 5. 6 or 5. 7 in Height but good in attitude. I have had some really bad attitude with Romanian and Bulgarian chicks in the RLD if Amsterdam especially Romanian one's they tend to act Nasty and take you for a ride lot of con job kind of stuff first take the money and then say this in included, that is not included, touch me there, touch me not there kind of stuff. So don't know what to expect out of these. Romanian and Bulgarian girls most of them try to Rip you off!
PussyLiccker
02-24-14, 02:09
You are in for an awakening. Based on my FKK career, it's the opposite. German girls have been good to talk to, but I found them to be a bit distant in the room(with some exceptions of course). Romanians and Bulgarians statistically provides the most outstanding sessions based on my experience. Bulgarians have better statistics given their numbers. Since there are an abundance of them around, you will find a percentage of them with the looks to your liking, I certainly did. I personally think if they are good looking, they are better looking than some Germans I've run into, but it's comparing apples to oranges as the German girls have different looks I go for. One thing I can say is that, body wise, I didn't run into many outstanding German girls. They don't seem to have rounded asses like girls of other ethnicity, although I think they have very nice hips. Hips wide and ass flat.
I did run into some good looking Germans at random places, like ACA or LR(this one at the summer of 2012 was the best looking ever) around Duss. Also at Oase, Cassandra. That's back when Oase was king and attracted a few stunners to the club. I think it depends on what clubs you are in, some clubs have more service oriented German girls which I think Artemis probably has. Palace generally doesn't have service oriented girls, but I found some decent sessions here and there, but it was not with Germans. This also depends on what your idea of good service is of course. Look towards Artemis if you are looking for quality Germans. You can also check GT which has high percentage of Germans, you may find ones you like there, but I'm not into Germans at GT. German Sam at GT I've heard is a stunner and very popular there. I believe she is brunette, VetoCorleone or BananaBoi can give you more details. Something I've noticed is lots of Germans working in clubs that I've run into come from Koln or Hamburg for some reason.
Stella provides very lousy service, but facially, she has the Germanic looks(maybe more Nordic since she is from Hamburg?) that I have been really craving for when I was on the hunt for Germans. At the time I bumped into her, I thought she had a decent body and liked how soft she felt especially her ass, she may have gain more weight since then. I just took her to the room for novelty sake, like I do with girls that initially stuns me with their looks. If she starts giving some really sloppy BJ and DFK, I'll be on my way to Palace as it would make my day.
Why not look for Polish girls, if you are looking for blue/green eyed blond bombshell? Polish girls are outstanding in the room, and there are some lookers! Not many I have seen I'm afraid, GT has some. Palace has some too, but they may be a bit older. I would think Artemis would draw them since it's close to Poland.
Banana Boi
02-24-14, 02:46
German girls have been good to talk to, but I found them to be a bit distant in the room(with some exceptions of course).If that's the case I'm surprised you still go after the Germans, PL.
Personally I always click with German girls in the room and in real life. It's why I seek them. They can have an ice cold hard ass exterior but once you make them laugh and feel comfortable you are golden. The only one I felt distant with in a room is Anna at GT whose antics have been documented.
PussyLiccker
02-24-14, 02:54
If that's the case I'm surprised you still go after the Germans, PL.
Personally I always click with German girls in the room and in real life. It's why I seek them. They can have an ice cold hard ass exterior but once you make them laugh and feel comfortable you are golden. The only one I felt distant with in a room is Anna at GT whose antics have been documented.I don't go after them anymore. As I have more and more outstanding sessions and my service standards are raised, I don't find Germans to meet my demands. Half Germans do though, but the pure Germans with the looks I'm looking for, statistically very low. Summer of 2012 at LR, was the peak of looks and session at the same time. I haven't found many to be as passionate as some of the other ethnic girls in the room.
I think the problem is I've been attending GT, and it just put a negative outlook on Germans. I'm not into the Germans there.
About 30-40% of the working girls in London are Polish. But the restrictions on Romanians and Bulgarians was relaxed earlier this year, so they may flood the UK soon. Polish have a much more noticeable presence in London. And a few years ago, I remember reading that the largest number of foreign born babies in the UK were born to Polish mothers. It may just be that the Polish population has grown so rapidly in the last ten years that it attracts so much attention.
So Palace seems like the FKK I want to visit for my first time based upon the type of girls. A couple questions. Does Palace have Wifi? Is it a good FKK to have a full day experience where I can have three or four sessions and relax in between? I feel like I will be able to fight off the sharks based on the advice from these forums but is it worth it? Are the other guys there "tourists" or locals? Honestly I am going to be one of those "tourists" but is it common to strike up a conversation and get to know the other guys there?
Otherwise I would probably head to Oase.
You are in for an awakening.
Why not look for Polish girls, if you are looking for blue / green eyed blond bombshell? Polish girls are outstanding in the room, and there are some lookers! Not many I have seen I'm afraid, GT has some. Palace has some too, but they may be a bit older. I would think Artemis would draw them since it's close to Poland.Oh Wow! That sounds like a fantastic idea, to find some Polish girls. I have never even interacted with any Polish Guys / People! So how are the Polish Girls in attitude and their service? Giving? Or Too mean! And how do I just find them once I am inside "The Palace" Do I just go asking every girl are you Polish? Or how?
What is the one Mantra if you have to give me once I am in the Palace to not to look like a sucker! And so the girls don't try to rip off me by asking money for a whole lot of extras including for things which regular guy can get it fro free but just looking at me and my face they don't get a signal that ok I look like a newbie rip me off! LOL! How do I stop this from happening any handy attitude that I need to wear or any tips or tricks or just try and look cool, suave and composed? What exactly?
Citizen Kane
02-24-14, 18:36
What is the one Mantra if you have to give me once I am in the Palace to not to look like a sucker! And so the girls don't try to rip off me by asking money for a whole lot of extras including for things which regular guy can get it fro free but just looking at me and my face they don't get a signal that ok I look like a newbie rip me off! LOL! How do I stop this from happening any handy attitude that I need to wear or any tips or tricks or just try and look cool, suave and composed? What exactly?It's easy for the girls to spot a sucker at Palace. It's the fact that you're 1) male and 2) at Palace.
It's easy for the girls to spot a sucker at Palace. It's the fact that you're 1) male and 2) at Palace.Despite that, I am going to be in there for the hunt isn't it? So need some tricks up my sleeve!
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