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Pistons
09-08-17, 05:06
Ethnic is a funny word. In the army we all used to say we went to war to fuck locals. So our own cousins back home wouldn't know. OK, we didn't, but we could have.

A Moldavian guy I once met at work where I live once said he was not into Moldavian girls when I told him I liked their women. Reason was he didn't like to fuck his own cousins. He was against [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128). So I could just have them Wohoo!

Takedown
09-08-17, 15:49
Take it easy with the racist labeling. He also included fat white men and old white men as undesirable. Do you really think that the women in the clubs (except for those that specialize in quick sessions and fleecing their customers) would not prefer to fuck a fit, not old professional man of their own ethnicity and culture who have modern attitudes towards women rather than those listed as undesirable if they could make enough money doing so?

I hope you don't think of me of some racial minority that cries foul if some police officer dares to pull me over. I think I have a vaild criticism.

Mentioning old and fat people in the same sentence does not make the inclusion of the others less racist. In fact it makes it more racist as it lumps racial minorities into some physically unattractive group.

I can't say anything about guys being old, aging sucks. But to compare the desirability of racial minorities, or lack thereof, to that of lazy, fat men who don't take care of their bodies implies superiority and inferiority.

Many WGs actually prefer to not fuck men of their own ethnicity. Just ask a Romanian girl if they would go to a room with a Romanian man. Most will say they would never go with a Romanian man for whatever reason.

At the same time many WG's don't want to fuck young, fit, testosterone laden men because they cannot do as many rooms after a "hard fuck" session.

The Cane
09-08-17, 17:43
Many WGs actually prefer to not fuck men of their own ethnicity. Just ask a Romanian girl if they would go to a room with a Romanian man. Most will say they would never go with a Romanian man for whatever reason.Many of the girls will express preferences along nationality lines, with many not wanting to fuck their own LOL! Hell, I'm not too keen on your average American girl my own damn self! In the circles I have run in overseas, most will at least say that they like Americans. All about money I'm sure. They know we have it and will spend it. I remember fucking a Romanian girl at World who kept telling me how much she liked that American dick. But then there was the Romanian one in Spain who yelled while I was on the down stroke, "Fuck me you American bastard!" Hahaha! Damn it I love prostitution! LOLOLOL!

Pistons
09-08-17, 17:50
At the same time many WG's don't want to fuck young, fit, testosterone laden men because they cannot do as many rooms after a "hard fuck" session.Agreed with the rest. But this one might not be a good thing for the guys. Hehe.

Turgid
09-09-17, 01:26
What's with the race talk? In China when I used to hobby there before the crackdown in Chang Ping in 2014 and also other cities, many Chinese girls outright refuse to session with black, white and Indian men, they would prefer to bang old, fat, ugly Chinese men before those other ethnicities. In FKKs I see hot German, Russian and Eastern European gals f..king black, Turkish and Asian men constantly. Just the way things are.

HairyPussLover
09-09-17, 23:08
I was at the Palace on Wednesday night and I would like to confirm that all the girls now don't offer BBBJ. I picked 3 girls while I was there and all three of them refused a BBBJ even with a tip. There is a sign in German in every room saying that BBBJ is illegal. One of the girls I had that night was a fun half greek girl with huge tits I think she was a size G. She was a bit load but a lot of fun in the room not like the pretty girls who just promise so much and once they are in the room they just want to lay down and fuck. The Greek Girl also squirted for me for an extra charge which was good fun.

Until next time.

Turgid
09-10-17, 16:38
The Greek Girl also squirted for me for an extra charge which was good fun.

Until next time.The more she enjoys it the more she is paid; a win / win for the girls.

The Cane
09-10-17, 17:55
I was at the Palace on Wednesday night and I would like to confirm that all the girls now don't offer BBBJ. I picked 3 girls while I was there and all three of them refused a BBBJ even with a tip.We're getting a lot of conflicting reports with some saying business as usual and others saying no more BBBJs. I wish I knew what the hell was going on! Looking for reports from reliable long timers please!

Smoke Light
09-10-17, 19:59
We're getting a lot of conflicting reports with some saying business as usual and others saying no more BBBJs. I wish I knew what the hell was going on! Looking for reports from reliable long timers please!My impression is that NRW gets higher rate of positive reviews. I may not be one of your "long time reporters" but I came from my 10 day trip to Düsseldorf / Koeln at the end of August. My experience was good, but business as usual? NO. My strategy was DATY at the beginning of the session, 1 hour extensions, and good reputation spread by all the girls I knew since before July 1st. Visiting same club multiple days also helps.

If you pick only 18 year old-looking models, especially those who are new to business, your chances will plummet. Occasionally you need to fuck MILFs like Bibi at Samya to make younger girls more relaxed. Tutes talk a lot about clients, everything you say or do with one girl is known by others.

ExpatLover
09-10-17, 20:57
We're getting a lot of conflicting reports with some saying business as usual and others saying no more BBBJs. I wish I knew what the hell was going on! Looking for reports from reliable long timers please!If you are a regular or a nice guys everything is like before, if you are a dirty etc. Guys the new law will apply.

PussyLipSuker
09-11-17, 03:13
Hi guys,

Flying in to Frankfurt next week for 3 days and cannot wait to visit the FKK's. As it is a first time for me. Which FKK is the most recommended? How can you risk getting STI or STD with BBBJ?? Are the WG generally clean and healthy in the FKK's?? Thank you in advance for any replies!

Jimmy Boy 99
09-11-17, 05:26
I hope you don't think of me of some racial minority that cries foul if some police officer dares to pull me over. I think I have a vaild criticism.

Mentioning old and fat people in the same sentence does not make the inclusion of the others less racist. In fact it makes it more racist as it lumps racial minorities into some physically unattractive group.

I can't say anything about guys being old, aging sucks. But to compare the desirability of racial minorities, or lack thereof, to that of lazy, fat men who don't take care of their bodies implies superiority and inferiority.

Many WGs actually prefer to not fuck men of their own ethnicity. Just ask a Romanian girl if they would go to a room with a Romanian man. Most will say they would never go with a Romanian man for whatever reason.

At the same time many WG's don't want to fuck young, fit, testosterone laden men because they cannot do as many rooms after a "hard fuck" session.Romanians, Albanians, and probably Bulgarians do not fuck men of their own nationality at the clubs because they rightly fear that the only ones from those countries who come to the clubs are pimps looking to recruit girls into their stable. (A few years ago a cute Albanian girl at VV ran away from me like I had told her I had the plague when I asked her in Albanian "How are you", even though I am hardly the pimp type, being an American geezer.) However, when they retire to their home country, do you think they are settling down with Asians, Muslims, Western Europeans, or Americans? Hardly.

Non-western culture Asians and Turks (and Muslims in general) are undesirable to the women in the clubs because of their cultures' misogynistic attitudes towards women, which is reflected in how they interact with the women, not necessarily because they are physically undesirable. However, some women in the clubs can overcome this and become Asian specialists because of of the advantages of sessioning with those Asians, since they are usually clueless, can be easily overcharged for sessions, and apparently live up to the Thai saying "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand bhat). Some girls also seem to specialize in Turks, by working at Turkish clubs or where they are a large portion of the clientele, despite their reputation on this board for not being sticklers for good hygiene and trying to get AO in the base price, as they are reputed to be quick sessions (I. E. Mondial, with its 20 minute base session time) since it is apparently considered a sign of manly prowess in their culture to come quickly.

PussyLipSuker
09-11-17, 09:28
Hi guys,

I'm newbie in this forum and to this FKK experience. I will be traveling to Frankfurt next week for 3 days and looking forward to visit the clubs. Which FKK is the most recommended in Frankfurt? I seen pictures of the Palace online and looks amazing How can mongers risk getting STI or STD with BBBJ? Are the WG generally clean and healthy?

PussyLiccker
09-11-17, 09:44
Yup, an experienced WGs knows which guys will likely be easier sessions with more money, but also keep in mind that what they can talk bad about nationalities that YOU ARE NOT(people don't straight up talk bad things about customer's nationalities that they are dealing with, but behind the back, yes). As a guy in the clubs, we only have partial idea mainly based on what what we hear directly from girls(but what others share to us can provide another perspective). Since we are of various backgrounds, and some of get treated like kings in clubs, it can be blinding. But, I will say specifically what clientele gets on long with what WG depends on compatability (service styles, client's tastes, girl's preferences) to some degree (more with certain girls). Girls make assumptions based on their experiences with various clients over time.

Once you session a girl, she will know more about you. How you spend and if your service preferences are compatible with her, and also the girls talks amongst themselves and word will get around in their groups (This depends on the club).

I wouldn't doubt that majority of the Ro have preferences for Ro guys (people of their ethnic background, culture, and language ability), but just because they avoid Ro guys in clubs does not mean anything. What their behavior in working environment is what it is, a working environment. Different from normal outside environment in Ro. FKK clubs are just a fantasy land that involves monetary transactions.

Sirioja
09-11-17, 10:41
Romanian girls avoid Romanian guys in clubs because they are afraid of blackmailing and pimping, best job for most of Romanian guys, also driving their beloved GF to be fucked all day or night, to pay gas, tires, aluminum wheels for the Mercedes. Lazy guys for poor girls from a poor country, even my girls always say it s a beautiful country I should visit.

For Bulgarian girls, many Albanian pimps.

Takedown
09-11-17, 13:11
Romanians, Albanians, and probably Bulgarians do not fuck men of their own nationality at the clubs because they rightly fear that the only ones from those countries who come to the clubs are pimps looking to recruit girls into their stable. (A few years ago a cute Albanian girl at VV ran away from me like I had told her I had the plague when I asked her in Albanian "How are you", even though I am hardly the pimp type, being an American geezer.) However, when they retire to their home country, do you think they are settling down with Asians, Muslims, Western Europeans, or Americans? Hardly.

Non-western culture Asians and Turks (and Muslims in general) are undesirable to the women in the clubs because of their cultures' misogynistic attitudes towards women, which is reflected in how they interact with the women, not necessarily because they are physically undesirable. However, some women in the clubs can overcome this and become Asian specialists because of of the advantages of sessioning with those Asians, since they are usually clueless, can be easily overcharged for sessions, and apparently live up to the Thai saying "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand bhat). Some girls also seem to specialize in Turks, by working at Turkish clubs or where they are a large portion of the clientele, despite their reputation on this board for not being sticklers for good hygiene and trying to get AO in the base price, as they are reputed to be quick sessions (I. E. Mondial, with its 20 minute base session time) since it is apparently considered a sign of manly prowess in their culture to come quickly.Pretty accurate I think. As far as the settling down with non Eastern Europeans, I think it is a matter of convenience and familiarity rather than preference. Some of these small town Ro are not open to westerners but Bucaresti girls seem to be open. Many are married to Turks for sure. On a recent non mongering trip to Bucharest, I met a few couples. One was married to an Iranian man which surprised me and another to an Italian. Both girls were college grads with decent jobs so perhaps that makes a difference.

As far as non western asians being misogynistic, while I know what you mean, I don't think this is the reasoning behind the girls' attitude in FKK land. Most Eastern Asian guys in the FKK, American Asians too in this case, hardly exude the misogyny in traditional asian culture. Most are very meek with these girls, being socially awkward. On a homurous note, the biggest complaint I hear from these girls is the mammoth Bush most of the Eastern Asians sport.

Turgid
09-11-17, 13:11
At the same time many WG's don't want to fuck young, fit, testosterone laden men because they cannot do as many rooms after a "hard fuck" session.Actually its the other way around. WGs prefer young mongers because they come quickly sometimes 3 -5 minutes. The older guys tend to bang them for a longer period.

Takedown
09-11-17, 13:15
Actually its the other way around. WGs prefer young mongers because they come quickly sometimes 3 -5 minutes. The older guys tend to bang them for a longer period.Both scenarios are true. If you're envisioning a 24 year old newbie, you are right. But there are also the 28 year old experienced guy on his third pop that goes to town on a girl.

PussyLipSuker
09-11-17, 13:23
Hi guys,

I will be visiting Frankfurt next week for a few days and I will be looking forward to visiting the FKK clubs as for me will be a first time in one of these LOL! Which FKK is most recommended in Frankfurt? I've been reading this forum now for the last few days and seen that some mongers got BBBJ! Would mongers risk getting STI by getting BBBJ? Or are the WG reasonably clean and healthy? Just wondering cause BBBJ would be great start for me to get going LOL.

PussyLipSuker
09-11-17, 13:35
Hello gentlemen,

I will be visiting Frankfurt next week for a few days and looking forward to visiting the FKK Clubs as for me will be a first time in the FKK's. Which FKK is most recommended in Frankfurt? I've been reading this forum for the last few days now and seen mongers get BBBJ, would the mongers not be at risk of getting STI? Or are the WG generally clean and healthy? Also seen that they have become illegal now. Just wondering cause BBBJ would be a great start for me to get going!! LOL.

Takedown
09-11-17, 17:00
Hello gentlemen,

I will be visiting Frankfurt next week for a few days and looking forward to visiting the FKK Clubs as for me will be a first time in the FKK's. Which FKK is most recommended in Frankfurt? I've been reading this forum for the last few days now and seen mongers get BBBJ, would the mongers not be at risk of getting STI? Or are the WG generally clean and healthy? Also seen that they have become illegal now. Just wondering cause BBBJ would be a great start for me to get going!! LOL.PussyLicker copy cat?

ExpatLover
09-11-17, 18:50
Actually its the other way around. WGs prefer young mongers because they come quickly sometimes 3 -5 minutes. The older guys tend to bang them for a longer period.Things have changed this was true in the past now the business is getting more difficult so the girls are focusing on sugar daddy who are willing to take them out of the clubs and enjoy a bit more the life. Most of the girls are not able to have 20 young guys everything just because the body will not accept it.

PussyLipSuker
09-11-17, 22:20
PussyLicker copy cat?LOL. Nah just love the DATY so much.

FiddyCent
09-11-17, 22:55
PussyLicker copy cat?No Takedown.

We are talking about a guy with 5 posts vs a legend who has over 4300 posts. He has a long way to go. You wonder if the guy has even had 5 pussies in his life. Obviously, he chose the right sensei to emulate.

FiddyCent.

TankTank123
09-11-17, 23:32
We are talking about a guy with 5 posts vs a legend who has over 4300 posts. He has a long way to go. Don't bet on it. His posts are repeats on the same substance. Another 4,370 can be similarly generated in no time and Pussyliccker is licked! And he will find that it sucks.

Takedown
09-12-17, 00:35
No Takedown.

We are talking about a guy with 5 posts vs a legend who has over 4300 posts. He has a long way to go. You wonder if the guy has even had 5 pussies in his life. Obviously, he chose the right sensei to emulate.

FiddyCent.Pfft. I have 250 and have been on this Forum since 2008. Post counts don't mean much.

FiddyCent
09-12-17, 01:15
Pfft. I have 250 and have been on this Forum since 2008. Post counts don't mean much.True enough Takedown.

I've been in this hobby for years before discovering this forum. Certainly, if the guys would take the time and read back at least 20 pages, they will have most of the answers they need to figure out the whole thing. You will find me on the Prague forum, repeating myself for the newbies.

FiddyCent.

Takedown
09-12-17, 01:22
True enough Takedown.

I've been in this hobby for years before discovering this forum. Certainly, if the guys would take the time and read back at least 20 pages, they will have most of the answers they need to figure out the whole thing. You will find me on the Prague forum, repeating myself for the newbies.

FiddyCent.I'm familiar with your posts on the Prague forum. I read them when I researched for my 2015 Prague trip :) Btw, thanks for your info on Prive's!

FiddyCent
09-12-17, 01:28
I'm familiar with your posts on the Prague forum. I read them when I researched for my 2015 Prague trip :) Btw, thanks for your info on Prive's!It is becoming harder to find good talent in Prague, but they are there. Most guys do not know how much effort it takes to find a gem. The scene changes so quickly, but you are almost guaranteed to find a girl who will give you a BBBJ.

All the best to you Takedown!

FiddyCent.

Pistons
09-12-17, 07:32
even my girls always say it s a beautiful country I should visit.Moldova is apparently the 2nd least visited country in the entire world. Read an article about it a few weeks ago and how it was a hidden gem.

Jmioffe
09-13-17, 16:21
OK -- I'm back. I'm going to follow up on some of the responses to my last post. (But really, I'm just procrastinating, and just engaging with a hobby I very much enjoy, so please don't take me too seriously. I don't take myself too seriously.).

I said that I liked Palace in part because I found the clientele different than at Sharks and Oase. At Sharks and Oase, the clientele seemed much more like hardcore sex tourists. The clientele at those clubs strike me as the sort who would have trouble competing for such girls in the regular world -- the "conventionally undesirable" -- that is, old men, fat men, small men, ethnic men.

I'm not saying these men are inherently undesirable. But as a man who also fits in the conventionally undesirable demographic, I know I'm less desirable than guys who, say, look like Ryan Reynolds.

The girls in the FKK are attractive. I know that outside the FKK, my chances with them would be slim. When I'm at Sharks and everyone around me is old, fat, small, ethnic, it reminds me that I'm paying for it, that my chances with them in the outside world would be slim. It affects the fantasy for me.

At Palace, some of the clients are actually conventionally desirable, so that makes me feel better about myself. I know I'm operating on stereotypes that suggest sex tourists are all conventionally undesirable, and all women want the conventionally desirable. These are my own neuroses. You may not have them. The Cane is fair for calling me out about my "conventionally undesirable attitude" and KC Questor is fair for ribbing me about it.

MarquisdeSade1, that's a good point, I think there is a relationship between the WG pool and customer base, but I hadn't considered it that way. I think it's more complicated too. Some of the WGs I know who I met during the day switched to night because the turnover was better and the shifts more lucrative, even though the environment was more stressful. Certainly dayside has a much more palatable vibe than nightside, but I think it depends on the WG's attitude regarding money versus comfort.

Turgid, fair enough, money is money to most WGs. But they are also human, and the better you make the experience for them, the better it is for you. Some of these things you can control, like putting on deodorant or shaving. Some of these things you cannot, like being better in shape or younger or taller or looking like a guy they'd date in real life.

Pistons, indeed, tastes vary. Some of the girls do like the pensioners or the Asians or the businessmen. This is on the basis of their business alone though. My neurosis is in part thinking about the WGs perspective outside of the business realm. My experience has been that some of these girls aren't all about business certainly all of them are in it for the money, but some of them also like the sex, and the better experience I can make it for them, the better it is for me.

I've had some really great times with girls for who aren't total pros, some for whom this isn't a full-time gig, who do it to make rent every so often, and I can only imagine how much better my experiences would be if I were able to "hit the spot" with more of them by fitting the conventionally attractive demographic. We, as clients, aren't the only ones who want to forget that this is a business transaction. The WG wants not to be reminded of that too.

The loophole here is that while I fit the conventionally undesirable demographic, and I aspire to be among the conventionally desirable, I've found that with some effort, I can be treated like the conventionally desirable. Women are less visual creatures than men, and personality and conversation can go a long way with them. But not everyone can pull it off, and not every woman buys it.

Some people may say the way these WGs treat you is the same. You can always pay more for BBBJ or anal or kissing, or whatever your kink is. That is true. But I've found there is a passion, a quality of interaction, a vibe that money cannot buy. Maybe that is faked too. Maybe I'm just imagining it.

I've had decent luck with the businessmen hunters because of my background, but I know what you mean by many of them being unhappy. Personally, I think it's because their standards are very very high. I do fairly well and I've liked some of them enough that I've thought about pulling some of them out of the club into my regular life. But many of them also do fairly well, and they're looking for even bigger fish. I can't help but wonder the if the big fish these WGs are aiming for are so big that their pasts would be a political liability.

Takedown, again apologies. Much respect to you for taking issue with what appeared to be racism.

Florida Sun, well said. Jimmy Boy 99, generally, I agree. The girls are there to make money, but some are there to (somewhat) enjoy themselves too, and no doubt they'the enjoy themselves more with a "fit, not old professional man of their ethnicity and culture and who have modern attitudes. ".

(Skipping over a bunch of other reactions).

PussyLiccker no disagreements.

TL; DR FKKs are a fantasy land. I know I couldn't get with a lot of these girls outside the club and I'm less conscious of that when I'm at a FKK that has clients who could.

For a base level of service, money matters most of all. Some girls prefer guys they wouldn't be seen with outside of the club because they're better for their business. But some girls aren't entirely about making money, and I find that when I'm attractive to them, it pays off in spades.

Jmioffe
09-13-17, 16:42
We're getting a lot of conflicting reports with some saying business as usual and others saying no more BBBJs. I wish I knew what the hell was going on! Looking for reports from reliable long timers please!

Ha ha, well, here I can contribute information rather than conflict (I'm not sure if I count as a reliable long-timer though):

There is a framed poster in the locker room with a picture of a condom and what appears to be a warning of a 50,000 euro fine.

I had some regulars, who are more of the rule-following sort, tell me about the no-BBBJ rule and their intention to follow it. I didn't protest. BBBJs are not that important to me.

On the other hand, I've had some of these same regulars, and others, surprise me, put a finger to their lips, say "shhh" and "treat" me. So YMMV it seems.

The Cane
09-13-17, 18:04
Thank you for your mature response. You sound like a guy I wouldn't mind having a beer with! My two favorite FKKs in the Frankfurt area are Palace and Oase. I'm not a fan of Mainhattan and Sharks hasn't worked for me in a long time. World is hit and miss. When I go to Palace and Oase, I'm always treated very well by the girls, and fuck some of the hottest ones in there according to my tastes. And why does that happen? Well hell, I'm not going to spend a lot of time dwelling on that! Like the commercial said, "Just do it"!

But if I do sit here and think about it for a minute, let's be honest. Those girls are there to make money first and foremost. And I like paying for it! I mean, prostitution is tailor-made for a guy who thinks about relationships how I do. When you have some money and the tutes know you're ready to spend it, then they will "flock". They watch who you go to the room with, and how often. But besides money, I will give myself some credit. I'm an OK looking guy. Not fat and sloppy and hairy like Big Foot! Nice face. Girls will often tell me that I look like I have money LOL!

I try to project an image of being clean and comfortable and relaxed. I don't mind it if girls approach me, as long as they aren't too annoying about it and can take "no" for an answer. If I strike up a conversation with a girl, I try to be nice and even a little funny. I like to ask for what I want before I go to the room, but I try to do it in a laid back, easy-going way. And when we get to the room and I remove my robe, I don't want to girl to be repulsed by my body LOL! I've kept my weight in check. And what a great compliment when a girl tells me, "You smell good"!

This is how I do it. Now, would many of these girls date me or desire me outside of the clubs? Well some would, but others would not. But dude, I don't give a shit about that! We're not out in "society". We're at the club engaging in prostitution. Fucking! What the hell do I care if she desires me outside of the club or not? But also, there's another side to this too. I honestly can say that I personally would not be interested in 95% of the girls myself outside of the clubs! It's not just about them and their desires and what they want. Mongers have feelings too!

I think it's always best to just go and enjoy and not worry about who is the "most desirable" and who is not. Fuck that! Tute, do you want my fists full of euros or not? If you do great. And if you don't, then I'll find somebody else who does! This is how a monger needs to do. You pay the right money for the right services, you can have almost anybody in there. I won't says everybody. But damn near almost. Certainly enough to sate my perverted desires hehehe! Just have fun people! Just do it!

ExpatLover
09-13-17, 18:27
OK -- I'm back. I'm going to follow up on some of the responses to my last post. (But really, I'm just procrastinating, and just engaging with a hobby I very much enjoy, so please don't take me too seriously. I don't take myself too seriously.).

I said that I liked Palace in part because I found the clientele different than at Sharks and Oase. At Sharks and Oase, the clientele seemed much more like hardcore sex tourists. The clientele at those clubs strike me as the sort who would have trouble competing for such girls in the regular world -- the "conventionally undesirable" -- that is, old men, fat men, small men, ethnic men.

I'm not saying these men are inherently undesirable. But as a man who also fits in the conventionally undesirable demographic, I know I'm less desirable than guys who, say, look like Ryan Reynolds.

The girls in the FKK are attractive. I know that outside the FKK, my chances with them would be slim. When I'm at Sharks and everyone around me is old, fat, small, ethnic, it reminds me that I'm paying for it, that my chances with them in the outside world would be slim. It affects the fantasy for me..Don't think too much, go to the club you like and simply enjoy, it is impossible to summarize we are dealing with feelings of girls and men. We buy illusion and the girls fuck for money, if you don t believe just try to fuck one without paying outside or inside the clubs.

Samplerr
09-13-17, 22:04
I said that I liked Palace in part because I found the clientele different than at Sharks and Oase. At Sharks and Oase, the clientele seemed much more like hardcore sex tourists. The clientele at those clubs strike me as the sort who would have trouble competing for such girls in the regular world -- the "conventionally undesirable" -- that is, old men, fat men, small men, ethnic men.A lot of these girls are hooked up with ethnic men in their real life. Muslim names feature pretty heavily in working girl ink.



But many of them also do fairly well, and they're looking for even bigger fish. I can't help but wonder the if the big fish these WGs are aiming for are so big that their pasts would be a political liability.
The editor of Tatler, or a similar magazine, once claimed that they knew of numerous examples of old money marrying their former escorts. One alleged former hooker even ended up marrying a US president.

PussyLiccker
09-13-17, 22:19
It makes no difference to the pros. When you observe how pros work guys and which guys they target. Pros are pros since they are desensitized.

Pistons
09-14-17, 00:31
One alleged former hooker even ended up marrying a US president.I don't know if is a coincidence or anything, but down at Marina in Slovenia I met a few sisters. Their names were Malinia, Melani, Malin and Mellina.

Sirioja
09-14-17, 01:22
Moldova is apparently the 2nd least visited country in the entire world. Read an article about it a few weeks ago and how it was a hidden gem.No interest for me to go to visit my FKK GF in Brasov even mountains to ski, or even in Constanza to go to swim. I love my GF in FKK rooms and lounge, but I don t plan to buy a house in Romania and marry them. I just look for getting illusion in room. Sometimes, some are surprisingly passionate in room, for kissing, foreplay and sex.

McAdonis
09-14-17, 04:05
The loophole here is that while I fit the conventionally undesirable demographic, and I aspire to be among the conventionally desirable, I've found that with some effort, I can be treated like the conventionally desirable. Women are less visual creatures than men, and personality and conversation can go a long way with them. A woman's beauty really IS the most important thing to a man. But for women, it's all about social status (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2402851/A-womans-beauty-really-IS-important-thing-man--women-social-status.html).

In other words, a physically unattractive female has almost zero chance of obtaining a conventionally desirable male. A physical unattractive male still has an outside shot at obtaining a conventionally desirable female. I theorize that this is evolutionary. Men covet physically attractive females (so they can achieve a strong erection) and impregnate them. Women want to ensure that they and their offspring are provided for, so they covet a man with high social status.

For us men to be turned on by a female, probably 90% that is based on her physical appearance. For women to find a man sexually desirable, physical appearance takes on lesser weight. Younger girls will throw their panties a ugly musicians. Some younger girls are turned on by ugly bad boys (probably WGs or girls with daddy issues).

Rogue Nation
09-14-17, 07:24
Palace line up is improving with IAA approaching. Kylie. Jenny. Saskia. Alice. Kathrin. Helen. Ana. Martha. Julia. Anjelica. Nicoletta. Leanna. Jennifer. Hope. Camelia. Marie. About 70 plus girls.

Jmioffe
09-14-17, 19:03
Palace line up is improving with IAA approaching. Kylie. Jenny. Saskia. Alice. Kathrin. Helen. Ana. Martha. Julia. Anjelica. Nicoletta. Leanna. Jennifer. Hope. Camelia. Marie. About 70 plus girls.I've never been there during a convention. How crazy is it?

ExpatLover
09-14-17, 19:38
I've never been there during a convention. How crazy is it?It is not a convention but a big automobile fair, today at Shark there was 0 impact from the fair except more girls hungry for customers.

Samplerr
09-14-17, 23:04
I don't know if is a coincidence or anything, but down at Marina in Slovenia I met a few sisters. Their names were Malinia, Melani, Malin and Mellina.I was referring to Nancy, but that makes it two.

Jmioffe
09-14-17, 23:48
I was referring to Nancy, but that makes it two.Huh, learned something new. This has been seriously buried, it seems.

https://askopinion.com/celebrities-who-were-sex-workers

Pistons
09-15-17, 00:27
Huh, learned something new. This has been seriously buried, it seems.

https://askopinion.com/celebrities-who-were-sex-workersWell society better start to liberalise soon. Just a few weeks ago I overheard two female students discussing charging for sex while on town at night. And these sigardaddy websites is getting more and more accepted too. It is just the old generation holding back with what we are seeing in some countries. In the end, the oldest profession in the world will always survive.

Pistons
09-15-17, 00:35
Huh, learned something new. This has been seriously buried, it seems.

https://askopinion.com/celebrities-who-were-sex-workersThe only reason not every woman does it openly already is because of two things:

1. Religion and conservative values in society (this is on the retreat all over the world with liberals).

2. The economic benefits for women to stay married and hold onto a husband with social and / or economic power. At some point in time and in some countries this point will also get redundant. But in a way this is essentially just disguised prostitution already. And the reason women in many countries goes for this form of prostitution instead of charging for single events is that it is more valuable for them and the gains can be higher. But I feel society is trying to rectify this also. Ironically through liberating women and equal pay.

Sirioja
09-15-17, 05:55
Palace line up is improving with IAA approaching. Kylie. Jenny. Saskia. Alice. Kathrin. Helen. Ana. Martha. Julia. Anjelica. Nicoletta. Leanna. Jennifer. Hope. Camelia. Marie. About 70 plus girls.No Stella. De, no small Lucy. De selling kisses for 50 now?

Rogue Nation
09-15-17, 12:20
I've never been there during a convention. How crazy is it?Before 9 pm not crazy at all, just a large variety of girls to choose from. After 10 pm it gets packed. Still half the crowd compared to 2007.

Rogue Nation
09-15-17, 18:32
Stella yes. Lucy no.

ExpatLover
09-15-17, 20:03
The only reason not every woman does it openly already is because of two things:

1. Religion and conservative values in society (this is on the retreat all over the world with liberals).

2. The economic benefits for women to stay married and hold onto a husband with social and / or economic power. At some point in time and in some countries this point will also get redundant. But in a way this is essentially just disguised prostitution already. And the reason women in many countries goes for this form of prostitution instead of charging for single events is that it is more valuable for them and the gains can be higher. But I feel society is trying to rectify this also. Ironically through liberating women and equal pay.If you are speaking about prostitution, obviously the number of girls able to accept it is very limited just because it destroy the mind and it is not a problem of value etc. Just imagine yourself as a man prostitute getting fucked every day 10 to 20 by guys that you don t like at all, some fat, smelling etc. And top of that some guys who think that you are getting a orgasm when they lick you.

Jmioffe
09-15-17, 20:40
Before 9 pm not crazy at all, just a large variety of girls to choose from. After 10 pm it gets packed. Still half the crowd compared to 2007.HM, maybe I need to go during that time next year! Although the hotel rates are probably crazy.

Business picking up after 10 pm actually sounds typical, judging from the conversations I've had with some girls. Even on a Friday. One of them was complaining to me about a light Friday early afternoon, and I said "doesn't it pick up soon?

She was like, no, not until late because first they go out to work, and then they go out to dinner, and then finally they come around ten.

Pistons
09-15-17, 21:43
No Stella. De, no small Lucy. De selling kisses for 50 now?When I visited Palace last month I checked the app and saw a girl named Lucy was supposedly logged in. But from what I could tell before leaving 2 hours after checking the app, I did not see pretty petite Germany Lucy. So my conclusion was that there must be a new Lucy at Palace now.

ExpatLover
09-15-17, 21:57
HM, maybe I need to go during that time next year! Although the hotel rates are probably crazy.

Business picking up after 10 pm actually sounds typical, judging from the conversations I've had with some girls. Even on a Friday. One of them was complaining to me about a light Friday early afternoon, and I said "doesn't it pick up soon?

She was like, no, not until late because first they go out to work, and then they go out to dinner, and then finally they come around ten.Hotel rates are also quite low Saturday night which songs strange for me, may the fair is no more a big success.

MoneyShot
09-17-17, 02:18
When I visited Palace last month I checked the app and saw a girl named Lucy was supposedly logged in. But from what I could tell before leaving 2 hours after checking the app, I did not see pretty petite Germany Lucy. So my conclusion was that there must be a new Lucy at Palace now.What is the app name?

Jmioffe
09-17-17, 04:05
What is the app name?It can be hard to find. The only way I was able to access it was by using the QR code on the poster by reception. And I could only get the Android version at that. I could have sworn they had an iOS version at one time too. I just searched the GooglePlay store and couldn't find it.

MoneyShot
09-17-17, 04:58
It can be hard to find. The only way I was able to access it was by using the QR code on the poster by reception. And I could only get the Android version at that. I could have sworn they had an iOS version at one time too. I just searched the GooglePlay store and couldn't find it.Thanks for quick reply, I monger in Costa Rica mostly but plan on going back to Germany, Prague and Vienna with a few newbies.

Should be fun.

Sirioja
09-17-17, 07:44
When I visited Palace last month I checked the app and saw a girl named Lucy was supposedly logged in. But from what I could tell before leaving 2 hours after checking the app, I did not see pretty petite Germany Lucy. So my conclusion was that there must be a new Lucy at Palace now.Maybe Lucy returned to Great Palace Castrop Rauxel where she came from. I think it was 40/30 mn there.

Rogue Nation
09-17-17, 09:15
It can be hard to find. The only way I was able to access it was by using the QR code on the poster by reception. And I could only get the Android version at that. I could have sworn they had an iOS version at one time too. I just searched the GooglePlay store and couldn't find it.Name on the Apple AppStore is "The Palace Mens Club".

Jmioffe
09-17-17, 20:18
Name on the Apple AppStore is "The Palace Mens Club".No, that's not right. If you look at the details, it's for a place in Corpus Christi, Texas.

Rogue Nation
09-17-17, 22:08
No, that's not right. If you look at the details, it's for a place in Corpus Christi, Texas.Just downloaded it. It's for Palace in Frankfurt. But content has been disabled.

Pistons
09-18-17, 17:22
What is the app name?I couldn't find it myself. The receptionist helped me and found it after 2-3 minutes. LOL.

Pistons
09-18-17, 17:24
Maybe Lucy returned to Great Palace Castrop Rauxel where she came from. I think it was 40/30 mn there.Yes, or Babylon Hamburg where she also worked. Or did you check there for her? From my impression she didn't sound like she had a plan to stop working at least. There are so many clubs she could be in though.

Jmioffe
09-20-17, 01:25
I couldn't find it myself. The receptionist helped me and found it after 2-3 minutes. LOL.IOS or Android? I still can't find the iOS version.

Pistons
09-20-17, 09:46
IOS or Android? I still can't find the iOS version.Android. Apple is overpriced.

Sirioja
09-20-17, 15:40
Yes, or Babylon Hamburg where she also worked. Or did you check there for her? From my impression she didn't sound like she had a plan to stop working at least. There are so many clubs she could be in though.But she is from Dortmund. Easier in Castrop Rauxel. She lost her cute charm when she tried to sell me kisses. The worst for me, because for me a girl who doesn t kiss me in fluent way, doesn t like me, so I feel uncomfortable to have sex with her, so, no repeat. I only repeat when I really feel the girl need to trust, to kiss. It worked with Valentina / Isa who became a real sweet GF.

Kissing is the most intimate and difficult for most of girls. Easier to BBBJ, receive CIM.

Shinai
09-28-17, 17:11
I was in palace in 15 and 17 September and I was very pleased with the quality of the line up. A lot of different but high quality kind of girls made my visits super enjoyable. I think palace has the best line up among the Frankfurt clubs I checked recently including oase Mainhatten and sharks. I took my favourite girl tall blonde Romanian Ina, German model time natural brunette Liliana first day. The other day I was with Romanian baby blonde Elena, Rosalinda and German blonde Natalia the second day. I have to say the full girlfriend package for 100 euro is high but when you chose this for the most desired girl you feel worth it which I chosed for Ina.

Lefeu
09-28-17, 17:35
I was in palace in 15 and 17 September and I was very pleased with the quality of the line up...I think palace has the best line up among the Frankfurt clubs I checked recently including oase Mainhatten and sharks...I spent the evening of Saturday Sept 16 at Palace and I was not too impressed. I saw a Russian, whom I forgot the name, and she insisted on CBJ after getting me to shell out more money for her supposedly better service, all too familiar at that place. I then had a second punt with a Romanian girl who was better and saved the evening for me. On the other hand, I went to Sharks the following Monday night and I was very pleased with their line up. I was also very pleased with the girls I picked. I ended up going back on Tuesday night, as it was my last night in Frankfurt.

I would like to emphasize the fact that we may have different views on what is a good line up, or not, and that our views may be colored by a good or bad punt. I have experienced that many times in the past. I also went to Oase on Sunday 9/17 and was not impressed either. Yet, I had a wonderful time there back in June, where I visited that club 3 times in one week.

Lefeu
09-28-17, 17:42
...for me a girl who doesn t kiss me in fluent way, doesn t like me, so I feel uncomfortable to have sex with her...How about the girl who asks for more money for DFK, a is often the case in Palace. Then, they let you kiss them for a minute or so and and seem to say "your kissing credit is over buddy". One of the worst feeling in my book. Never again would I pay for DFK.

ExpatLover
09-28-17, 18:17
I was in palace in 15 and 17 September and I was very pleased with the quality of the line up. A lot of different but high quality kind of girls made my visits super enjoyable. I think palace has the best line up among the Frankfurt clubs I checked recently including oase Mainhatten and sharks. I took my favourite girl tall blonde Romanian Ina, German model time natural brunette Liliana first day. The other day I was with Romanian baby blonde Elena, Rosalinda and German blonde Natalia the second day. I have to say the full girlfriend package for 100 euro is high but when you chose this for the most desired girl you feel worth it which I chosed for Ina.You are probably right, it was also IAA time so a lot of non regular girls around, 1 negative point for me is that there is no outside garden or even windows to keep in contact with the sky.

Howie
09-30-17, 12:01
Decided to pay a visit to Palace during the tail end of IAA Messe week. Line up was pretty impressive compared to past outings. Spent time with Natalia from Hamburg. Hot spinner with immaculate silicons. Gorgeous pussy and loves to be butt fucked. Was tempted to try German Jenny but decided to save my juices for Oase and Sharks the very next day.

Sirioja
09-30-17, 12:17
How about the girl who asks for more money for DFK, a is often the case in Palace. Then, they let you kiss them for a minute or so and and seem to say "your kissing credit is over buddy". One of the worst feeling in my book. Never again would I pay for DFK.50 € just for 1 kiss, when I meet girls who come to kiss you even before going on the bed, who come to kiss you when you fuck them in missionary. Sometimes when I m tired, I proposed to change in doggy which is easier, some girls saying: Why do you want to change? You don't like? Keeping on kissing more and more passionate when you fuck them, even sometimes on first time room. What I call illusion I look for, until lockers to pay, even some will say only 100 or 150 for 1 h15 or 1 h45 , with smile and real DFK in lockers.

Big Boss Man
10-01-17, 00:48
I did an evening shift at Palace.

First room was 1 hour with Anda who can be found lounging to the left of the long bar. One other report described her as friendly and I concur. I think she said she was 22 but but I think the feeling in the room is that she is younger. She is like the hot college freshman nymphomaniac. Very playful. GFE. No up sell.

Second room was with a spinner who has a long Italian name. She was expert in oral sex and probably rode me faster and longer cowgirl than any other experience on the trip. Strangely we did not have much of a connection. We discussed it after the session and she said that she did not think it was her job to be a girlfriend at a FKK. After my session with Anda, I was probably looking for more of the same. If you are looking for an expert with a tight body, I would say 'yes. " I liked her honesty.

RamDc2017
10-02-17, 11:05
Hello,

I have a layover in Frankfurt on an upcoming Friday. I was thinking of going to Palace for three-four hours from 10 AM till 2 PM. How is the lineup then? Is this a good option rather than have an escort at the airport hotel?

Thanks.

RamDc2017
10-02-17, 11:26
Has anyone tried the massage at Palace? How much is it per hour? Is it a real massage and is it available in the morning?

Rogue Nation
10-02-17, 18:12
10 am to 2 pm the place will be empty. The usual long time girls like Nicoletta or Anjelica will be around, max. 10 girls. Massage is 30€/30 min. Don't know if it is available before 2 pm. Check the website or call.

TrueScotsMan
10-03-17, 09:22
Hi guys,

I have a day off here today I've been reading this forum and it's very helpful.

I've never been to a FKK I'm looking for advice on best one for starters.

I was going to sample the local beers but maybe I can also have a few at the clubs.

Thanks guys.

FunExplorer
10-03-17, 17:10
Hi guys,

I have a day off here today I've been reading this forum and it's very helpful.

I've never been to a FKK I'm looking for advice on best one for starters.

I was going to sample the local beers but maybe I can also have a few at the clubs.

Thanks guys.Why don't you try Sharks? Palace is a nice club but there is huge up selling.

YourBoyRoc
10-06-17, 19:02
I've heard good things about Palace but it seems upselling there is a problem. I usually go to Sharks when in town but I've heard there are more women from different countries at Palace. Is it true Palace has more flags than other FKK's? Which FKK has the most Dominican and black women?

PunchBowl
10-07-17, 03:14
From my experience Sharks has with a minimum of 6-8 women of this species, the lineup with the most diversity of nationalities! Just to mention a few: grace, Winnie, Oprah (black African) and 4 more Latina (Colombia, Dom-rep, Brazil, Venezuela).

Mr Ho
10-07-17, 08:12
I've heard good things about Palace but it seems upselling there is a problem. I usually go to Sharks when in town but I've heard there are more women from different countries at Palace. Is it true Palace has more flags than other FKK's? Which FKK has the most Dominican and black women?Artemis has quite few black girls and I saw two black girls at GT Bruggen, Palace. Never saw black girls beside one Dominican girl who is not hot at all to my taste.

YourBoyRoc
10-07-17, 09:52
From my experience Sharks has with a minimum of 6-8 women of this species, the lineup with the most diversity of nationalities! Just to mention a few: grace, Winnie, Oprah (black African) and 4 more Latina (Colombia, Dom-rep, Brazil, Venezuela).I've been to Sharks at least 7 times this year. Actually sessioned with two African girls. One from Ghana and one from Kenya but can't remember their names. However, only on two occasions have I seen African women. If their were any Dominican women I must've mistaken them for Romanian, since it seems most girls there are Romanian. I'll search a little harder my next trip. Thanks for the feedback.

Sirioja
10-07-17, 10:32
I've heard good things about Palace but it seems upselling there is a problem. I usually go to Sharks when in town but I've heard there are more women from different countries at Palace. Is it true Palace has more flags than other FKK's? Which FKK has the most Dominican and black women?A real black model seen at Sharks, what a wonderful, tall, slim body, unfortunately black for me who is attracted by white skins.

Usually black girls at Babylon Elsdorf. Some black girls at GT and LR.

XXL
10-07-17, 11:01
I've heard good things about Palace but it seems upselling there is a problem. I usually go to Sharks when in town but I've heard there are more women from different countries at Palace. Is it true Palace has more flags than other FKK's? Which FKK has the most Dominican and black women?Dominican Alicia at Palace is worth going to Palace only for her. She's a 100-euro girl though but wortj every euro.

Member #4585
10-07-17, 11:27
I've heard good things about Palace but it seems upselling there is a problem. I usually go to Sharks when in town but I've heard there are more women from different countries at Palace. Is it true Palace has more flags than other FKK's? Which FKK has the most Dominican and black women?YourBoyRoc,

Oase club has a plethora of women of color right now. I saw a team of them from light skin to dark skinned black ladies. They are pretty good looking too and breats feel good and they are warm when they sit on your lap.

Palace has some but I would recommend Oase over Palace for the relax factor and less pushiness of the girls.

YourBoyRoc
10-07-17, 11:28
Artemis has quite few black girls and I saw two black girls at GT Bruggen, Palace. Never saw black girls beside one Dominican girl who is not hot at all to my taste.I've been wanting to give Artemis a try but, the entry fee and 60 Euro sessions, not to mention I hear there's a lot of up selling there, has kept me away but in that case, I'll consider it.

Thanks for the feedback!

YourBoyRoc
10-07-17, 11:39
YourBoyRoc,

Oase club has a plethora of women of color right now. I saw a team of them from light skin to dark skinned black ladies. They are pretty good looking too and breats feel good and they are warm when they sit on your lap.

Palace has some but I would recommend Oase over Palace for the relax factor and less pushiness of the girls.On all my trips, I've planned to go to Oase but somehow I always end up staying at Sharks. My last trip, I couldn't leave Bulgarian Brinney with the Huge Boobs alone, she kept me coming back. I'll make it a point to get there next trip. Thanks for the feedback!

Rogue Nation
10-07-17, 14:54
Palace' line-up is the most diverse by far. German. Romanian. Polish. Latinas. African. Bulgarian.

Oase hast 4 African girls and 2-3 Latinas right now.

ExpatLover
10-07-17, 18:34
I've heard good things about Palace but it seems upselling there is a problem. I usually go to Sharks when in town but I've heard there are more women from different countries at Palace. Is it true Palace has more flags than other FKK's? Which FKK has the most Dominican and black women?Better you forget Palace and stick on Shark.

MikeTk1974
10-08-17, 11:50
On all my trips, I've planned to go to Oase but somehow I always end up staying at Sharks. My last trip, I couldn't leave Bulgarian Brinney with the Huge Boobs alone, she kept me coming back. I'll make it a point to get there next trip. Thanks for the feedback!Oh shit I miss this Bul boobie in Sharks at mid Jul. Just pickup busty British Greek with an Asian face. Next one is Austian boobie MILF with a large tattoo on her back (I must retake her each year visit).

Mr Ho
10-09-17, 22:45
If you have palace app on your mobile, your entrance become 65 euro right? How does this work?

Citizen Kane
10-10-17, 17:32
If you have palace app on your mobile, your entrance become 65 euro right? How does this work?The Palace app is brilliant. It randomly removes money direct from your bank account (in multiples of 50) for absolutely no reason whatsoever. It really is just like being there.

Mr Ho
10-11-17, 01:48
The Palace app is brilliant. It randomly removes money direct from your bank account (in multiples of 50) for absolutely no reason whatsoever. It really is just like being there.LOL. So it is Palace style even with mobile app LOL.

I just did not get this check in thing. I mean it going to say I checked at FKK palace to let all my friends knows on sns? LOL.

Mr Ho
10-11-17, 13:12
Let us pray.

We mongers are all hole friends, who at one time in our life shared same organic holes in the place called FKK, where we can suck, fuck, put our body parts into organic holes belonging to various nationalities in exchange for some printed paper called Euro.

Pistons
10-12-17, 12:36
Let us pray.

We mongers are all hole friends, who at one time in our life shared same organic holes in the place called FKK, where we can suck, fuck, put our body parts into organic holes belonging to various nationalities in exchange for some printed paper called Euro.Indeed my friend. There must surely now be some microorganisms on your little one who has grandparents who once lived on mini me. Please say Hello, from me to them wherever you are in this world.

Oh, and interestingly the women we have had sex with is now also part of us. So we have all indirectly had sex in more than one way. Freaky (Link: http://archive.is/phVpT.

(Only read this if you must and are a party popper: http://www.snopes.com/women-retain-dna/).

WazzsFohult
10-14-17, 06:44
Can I bring my girl with me to FKK?

Rogue Nation
10-14-17, 14:36
Can I bring my girl with me to FKK?At Palace. Yes.

Takedown
10-14-17, 22:14
If you have palace app on your mobile, your entrance become 65 euro right? How does this work?It works something like this: you pay full entry on Day 1 and then check in with reception using the barcode on the app. Then for 24 hours after you check in, you get reduce entry for the first 24 hours after checking in, something like 25% off. You also get a smaller discount up to 48 hours after you check in, something like 12.5% off. Basically it's incentive to get you to come back on your 2nd and / or your 3rd days.

Mr Ho
10-15-17, 04:04
It works something like this: you pay full entry on Day 1 and then check in with reception using the barcode on the app. Then for 24 hours after you check in, you get reduce entry for the first 24 hours after checking in, something like 25% off. You also get a smaller discount up to 48 hours after you check in, something like 12.5% off. Basically it's incentive to get you to come back on your 2nd and / or your 3rd days.Checking in at FKK on internet has big guts as you let the whole world know that you just checked in to FKK LOL.

Takedown
10-15-17, 17:42
Checking in at FKK on internet has big guts as you let the whole world know that you just checked in to FKK LOL. Being paranoid (especially of hackers of a 3rd rate app) is no way to live life.

Mr Ho
10-15-17, 22:18
Being paranoid (especially of hackers of a 3rd rate app) is no way to live life.I thought checking in let the world knows you are in palace?

If that is not the case then I do not mind downgrading it because I go daily when I am there.

Jmioffe
10-15-17, 23:34
This clip from the film "300" makes me think of Palace.

Some times I wonder if I look like him or the girls look at me like they'd look like him when I enter.

Some times I feel like him, or feel like I have the same expressions.

"Yes, I want it all!!!" (joking / exagerating).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upnq7GxixCw

Takedown
10-16-17, 19:10
I thought checking in let the world knows you are in palace?

If that is not the case then I do not mind downgrading it because I go daily when I am there.Checking in using a profile that you created for the app, it's up to you if your log in data is connected to your identifying information.

Mr Ho
10-17-17, 01:25
Checking in using a profile that you created for the app, it's up to you if your log in data is connected to your identifying information.Aha, so it is its own platform and not connected to google map etc. Then it is cool, but a lot of hassle it sound like.

Mr Ho
10-22-17, 06:02
How much is glass of red wine here? And is it any good?

Danny227
10-23-17, 09:50
Yes. Stella is around.Maybe you know if she is there these days because the app never shows her as checked in.

Danny227
10-23-17, 10:59
The Palace app is brilliant. It randomly removes money direct from your bank account (in multiples of 50) for absolutely no reason whatsoever. It really is just like being there.What does that mean exactly? You put you billing information in the app, but for what reason (you pay entry or what sort of in app purchases do you have)?

Danny227
10-23-17, 11:01
Let us pray.

We mongers are all hole friends, who at one time in our life shared same organic holes in the place called FKK, where we can suck, fuck, put our body parts into organic holes belonging to various nationalities in exchange for some printed paper called Euro.Yep, why won't we create a social media app (like Linkedin, for example) and show 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree Hole friends with specific references to hole categories, LOL. I've seen worst ideas make billions.

Danny227
10-23-17, 20:19
Maybe you know if she is there these days because the app never shows her as checked in.Thanks! Much appreciated.

Mr Ho
10-23-17, 23:31
Yep, why won't we create a social media app (like Linkedin, for example) and show 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree Hole friends with specific references to hole categories, LOL. I've seen worst ideas make billions.Hologram for photo and Holebook for network LOL.

Takedown
10-24-17, 02:06
How much is glass of red wine here? And is it any good?12 Euro and mediocre😕.

Danny227
10-24-17, 04:14
Oh shit I miss this Bul boobie in Sharks at mid Jul. Just pickup busty British Greek with an Asian face. Next one is Austian boobie MILF with a large tattoo on her back (I must retake her each year visit).What's the name of the Bulgarian baby from July?

Asian looking Greek is Alexa, good personality, lacking service.

Mr Ho
10-24-17, 12:58
12 Euro and mediocre😕.Thanks man, it is good to know it is mediocre and not bad bad LOL.

ZimmerSchatz
10-27-17, 22:23
Has anyone seen Kiara lately?

Rogue Nation
10-28-17, 10:08
Lately? Saw her during IAA and haven't been visiting since.

Member #4585
10-29-17, 14:45
For the fans of Roxanna ro formerly of Sharks she is still working at Palace. If she knows you then you can still expect the all inclusive service for 50 euro. No worries.

Still a good performer.

I like the food at Palace. Not so many men crowding the place especially at night in the weekends. Real slow in the day time.

FunExplorer
10-31-17, 11:11
October 10, Tuesday:

It was not my original plan to visit Palace, especially since I know the up selling by girls there. I was sort of forced by a buddy, who preferred going here rather than Sharks today. So, we were off at around 7 PM. I was skeptical about the line up being Tuesday, after my experience yesterday at Mainhattan. However, things were totally different. I would say I was surprised to see the line up and figured out that I should consider at least three of them. So, after initial drinks, spoke to a Romanian, may be 25 and discussed business. Surprise! No tantrums and she agreed for my terms at Euro 50. Had a good session.

Second one was from Spain, Elina or Elna? Beautiful body and agreed for the same terms. Had a very lovely session in multiple positions.

Third one was also from Spain, Hellen. Not a memorable session but still okay. Could not cum.

Fourth one was from Germany. It was beyond ordinary and I should consider it good.

Left at 1 AM being satisfied. Decided to return again in two days.

ExpatLover
10-31-17, 17:39
October 10, Tuesday:

It was not my original plan to visit Palace, especially since I know the up selling by girls there. I was sort of forced by a buddy, who preferred going here rather than Sharks today. So, we were off at around 7 PM. I was skeptical about the line up being Tuesday, after my experience yesterday at Mainhattan. However, things were totally different. I would say I was surprised to see the line up and figured out that I should consider at least three of them. So, after initial drinks, spoke to a Romanian, may be 25 and discussed business. Surprise! No tantrums and she agreed for my terms at Euro 50. Had a good session.

Second one was from Spain, Elina or Elna? Beautiful body and agreed for the same terms. Had a very lovely session in multiple positions.

Third one was also from Spain, Hellen. Not a memorable session but still okay. Could not cum.

Fourth one was from Germany. It was beyond ordinary and I should consider it good.

Left at 1 AM being satisfied. Decided to return again in two days.I don't believe that the girls were from Spain, most probably from Romania and had work in Spain.

Mr Ho
10-31-17, 17:56
October 10, Tuesday:

It was not my original plan to visit Palace, especially since I know the up selling by girls there. I was sort of forced by a buddy, who preferred going here rather than Sharks today. So, we were off at around 7 PM. I was skeptical about the line up being Tuesday, after my experience yesterday at Mainhattan. However, things were totally different. I would say I was surprised to see the line up and figured out that I should consider at least three of them. So, after initial drinks, spoke to a Romanian, may be 25 and discussed business. Surprise! No tantrums and she agreed for my terms at Euro 50. Had a good session.

Second one was from Spain, Elina or Elna? Beautiful body and agreed for the same terms. Had a very lovely session in multiple positions.

Third one was also from Spain, Hellen. Not a memorable session but still okay. Could not cum.

Fourth one was from Germany. It was beyond ordinary and I should consider it good.

Left at 1 AM being satisfied. Decided to return again in two days.Wow, that does not sound Palace LOL.

Danny227
11-05-17, 11:16
October 10, Tuesday:

It was not my original plan to visit Palace, especially since I know the up selling by girls there. I was sort of forced by a buddy, who preferred going here rather than Sharks today. So, we were off at around 7 PM. I was skeptical about the line up being Tuesday, after my experience yesterday at Mainhattan. However, things were totally different. I would say I was surprised to see the line up and figured out that I should consider at least three of them. So, after initial drinks, spoke to a Romanian, may be 25 and discussed business. Surprise! No tantrums and she agreed for my terms at Euro 50. Had a good session.

Second one was from Spain, Elina or Elna? Beautiful body and agreed for the same terms. Had a very lovely session in multiple positions.

Third one was also from Spain, Hellen. Not a memorable session but still okay. Could not cum.

Fourth one was from Germany. It was beyond ordinary and I should consider it good.

Left at 1 AM being satisfied. Decided to return again in two days.Are you reviewing Palace? Maybe I should re-try it. Was Stella there?

Joe Shmoe
11-09-17, 20:12
Hey guys,

I'm planning a trip to another part of Europe and many of the flights have long layovers in either Frankfurt or Berlin so I have to choose one. I'm really into curvier, thicker girls. How are the girls at Palace these days? I came there a few years ago and remember seeing Stella but she was too busy. There also was a thick and curvy tall russian with short red hair, is she still there? Any girls with big butts?

Be Wilder
11-10-17, 16:55
I had the pleasure of having to go on business to Germany for a week. The bad news was it was mainly in Munich where I understand the FKK scene is not so good. I had hoped for some meetings in Dusseldorf but no such luck. However, decided to spend 3 days beforehand in Frankfurt and also arranged my schedule so I'd have a night out in Frankfurt on my way back. I was a little concerned that the new law may have changed the dynamics but given I was on a business trip, visiting my favourite haunts was a no-brainer. Decided to pay a visit to each of Palace, Sharks and Oase, the weekend before and return to the best one on my way back. There were two girls I was hoping to see and repeat with at each club who I could reasonably hope to see (who I had seen in the past 12 months).

These days I always start or finish with Palace rather than going North to South as I used to as it is easy to get a train from the Airport which saves E50-60 getting a cab to Darmstadt for Sharks or Friedrichsdorf for Oase. Got Palace at about 5 pm. Entry was the normal E75.

1. Roxanna:- There were two girls I was hoping to see and repeat with at each club who I could reasonably hope to see (I. E. Who I had seen in the past 12 months). At Palace they were small tits, blonde Katerina and busty fake tits brunette Sanziana. Sadly no sign of either of them but I had the pleasant surprise of seeing Roxanna who was a very popular girl in Sharks who I had a couple of years earlier though only on the one occasion and regretted not repeating. I didn't waste the opportunity and cornered her and took her to the room.

Roxanna is blonde (bit on the platinum side these days), very pretty with a friendly face and warm features if that makes sense and a good body though she is a bit chunkier than I remember her and now has big fake knockers but nevertheless remains an impressive package.

The session itself was wonderful and it is easy to forget it is a paid encounter with Roxanna as everything seems so natural which is partly down to her pleasant demeanour as she does radiate warmth and has a beautiful smile. Lots of DFK, GFE caressing, feasting on her tits and went down on her for a age and managed to make her orgasm (I recall looking up at one point to see her playing with her tits and face in ecstasy which is a sight which will live with me for a long time). She gave a wonderful blow job and I finished making love to her in missionary style. I'm in a good position to judge and Roxanna is simply world class. Whether you are a novice or brimming with experience, if you recognise her from this description you will be doing yourself a huge favour by taking her to the room. A wonderful one hour. E100.

2. Mickie:- I thought the quality of girls was good though there were maybe only 60 or so girls throughout the night. Decided to go for the the one I considered to be the best looking. Mickie is a dark blonde, early 20's with a lovely smooth natural body and a trim figure with pert tits and a nice natural tone.

She seemed a bit agitated as apparently a Romanian customer had recognised her and told her family but she was composed enough to deliver a very good blowjob though there wasn't much in the way of trimmings and the foreplay was cursory. Nevertheless it is not every day you get sucked off by a beautiful, young woman! E100.

3. Ilona:- I was approached by a seemingly familiar blonde wearing glasses (pale, medium sized figure, natural tits, late 20's) who claimed to have been with me before. I didn't immediately recognise her and it was only when she said it was a part of a threesome with a redhead, it finally registered. Last time she had her hair in pigtails which I preferred and she had also put on some weight I did remember she was the better of the duo and she had a wonderfully tight pussy so decided to take her for another whirl. Last time she had her hair in pigtails which I preferred and she had also put on some weight. After my earlier exertions, I couldn't get hard enough to get stuck in so only had a blowie and she got me off with a HJ. E50.

It didn't follow my normal pattern of a FKK night which usually involves 3 sessions comprising an old favourite, a new dollybird and a threesome but overall it was a good night with Roxanna being the obvious highlight and coupled with the general high quality of the line up, had already pencilled in a return visit the following Friday unless I became totally bewitched with a new girl at Sharks or Oase.

Be Wilder
11-10-17, 17:07
I spent a few days in Munich on business and resisted the temptation to visit the local FKKs as my understanding is they are not on par with Hessen and NRW clubs (though with hindsight I should have found out for myself) but I was fully refreshed for one last big night. I decided on Palace as Roxanna had been the stand out girl and thought overall quality was highest in Palace though there wasn't much to choose between the three clubs. Was tempted with Oase as my two two "hope to sees" were around but I hadn't sessioned with them and I read on ISG that one of my all time favourites Jennifer (with the deep tan and luscious lips) had been recently spotted; Sharks had also been a great night but overall decided to stick with Palace as it also saved time as I didn't have to get another train.

9. Julia:- They were having an Oktoberfest night with free beer and had all the girls dress up in faux beer wench outfits. Normally I'm a sucker for lingerie and uniforms but my frequent FKK visits have programmed me to prefer the naked form not least as there are no surprises. My first girl of the night was a chestnut brown, slim, natural looking Romanian who was perhaps late 20's / early 30's. She had a pleasant demeanour and a lovely smile and her soft sell efforts reaped benefits.

The session started with her getting on her knees and sucking me off and was a fantastic hour as Julia is great at giving head and after the initial frantic start slowed down to give a wonderful teasing performance with lots of blowing and I finished in doggy. E100.

10. Roxanna:- On to the main course and of course Roxanna was again magnificent. No DATY this time as she said she was feeling a bit sore but instead gave me a nice massage to fill the time I would otherwise have spent feasting on her. Again a lovely GFE with some doggy but the session mainly consisted of her giving me oral. E150.

11. Katherine, Roslyn, Elena and Sabrina!:- I had E600 still burning a hole in my pocket but only 1 shot in the locker. Initially I thought about finishing with a threesome but decided to throw caution to the wind and piled the girls up one after the other.

Katherine is an old favourite who I first described in my July 2016 report as "a tall, slim Romanian girl called Katherine. She had brown hair which was tied up, beautiful eyes, dainty nose, lovely legs and an all natural look which is rare to find".

I had Katherine another time in a threesome with Roslyn (though she may be called Rosalie) who I described in my Dec 2016 report as "a new girl who had blondish hair and again a natural looking body and was younger, possibly in her early 20's" though I was probably doing her a disservice as I omitted to mention that facially she is stunning.

Elena I had in June 2017 and described as ". The prettiest girl in the club. A young, blonde dollybird type. She is blessed with gorgeous looks and is also a pleasant girl in her early 20's. Good natural slim body".

If that was not enough, decided to opt for another of their friends called Sabrina. I would have gone for her anyway whether on her own or as part of a group as she was my type. Dark brown hair, lovely eyes (almost a Eurasian look), fantastic figure, deep tan and relatively big fake knockers. She reminded me of a friend's wife and I find lookalikes always add a frisson!

Four gorgeous girls. What could go wrong? I'm glad to say not much. At this stage, I was only good to be sucked off and having a four girl blow team is hard to beat as a fantasy especially when any one of them more than hits the spot in terms of looks. I did have a four girl session in Sharks in 2014 but that had two stunners and two average to good looking girls whereas here all 4 were top notch lookers. They all took turns sucking me off and generally whilst the other three girls were busy licking some other part of my body or feeding me their tits to chew on. Started with Katherine, before Roslyn, Elena and finished with Sabrina. Katherine was the most vocal (possibly because I've been with her 3 or 4 times now) and pretended to role play with her being my wife and getting three young girls as a birthday present and instructing them how to suck my cock. The session culminated with Katherine holding Sabrina's hair and moving her head up and down telling her to suck me deep and get all my cock in her mouth. It had the desired effect and that is how I finished which was a good effort. I doubt at that point if there were many men in the entire world having as blissful a time as I was having which is what FKKs are all about. A complete dream world.

I pretty much finished on 30 minutes (I was happy to go for an hour) and afterwards they had asked me how it was. The filthy grin on my face should have given them the answer but Katherine mentioned she knows I post reports on ISG and she would wait until my report. In case is reading. It was wonderful and I'm looking forward to a repeat performance. E200.

PussyLiccker
11-10-17, 20:42
Rosalyn is very pretty, I'd say one of the top optical highlights around. Service however was a disaster.

Be Wilder
11-11-17, 09:23
Rosalyn is very pretty, I'd say one of the top optical highlights around. Service however was a disaster.Been with her twice now and both times her service was fine. It is perhaps significant that both times an (other) girl (s) was with her and Rosalyn was not the lead girl in that I asked Katherine to suggest a friend for a threesome. Rather than putting girls together who do not necessarily know each other or comfortable showing their full repertoire in front of another girl, I always ask the lead girl to suggest a friend. It is not foolproof but I find it increases the chances of a good threesome and I guess the secondary girl would not want to jeapordise the chances of being chosen by her friend again if she annoys the lead girl's regular?

As I say it is not foolproof as there are a couple of girls in Oase namely Daniella (tall., slim brunette with small tits) and Diana (black girl from Dom Rep) who have given a proper GFE when I've been with them individually as a default but have held back in a threesome.

But coming back to Rosalyn, based on my experiences, I'd be very comfortable taking her on a one-on-one now.

Danny227
11-11-17, 09:26
Been with her twice now and both times her service was fine. It is perhaps significant that both times an (other) girl (s) was with her and Rosalyn was not the lead girl in that I asked Katherine to suggest a friend for a threesome. Rather than putting girls together who do not necessarily know each other or comfortable showing their full repertoire in front of another girl, I always ask the lead girl to suggest a friend. It is not foolproof but I find it increases the chances of a good threesome and I guess the secondary girl would not want to jeapordise the chances of being chosen by her friend again if she annoys the lead girl's regular?

But coming back to Rosalyn, based on my experiences, I'd be very comfortable taking her on a one-on-one now.That sounds like Palace is worth a visit again, after a long while. Is Sunday too empty? Or still some people.

Mr Ho
11-11-17, 12:52
I spent a few days in Munich on business and resisted the temptation to visit the local FKKs as my understanding is they are not on par with Hessen and NRW clubs (though with hindsight I should have found out for myself) but I was fully refreshed for one last big night. I decided on Palace as Roxanna had been the stand out girl and thought overall quality was highest in Palace though there wasn't much to choose between the three clubs. Was tempted with Oase as my two two "hope to sees" were around but I hadn't sessioned with them and I read on ISG that one of my all time favourites Jennifer (with the deep tan and luscious lips) had been recently spotted; Sharks had also been a great night but overall decided to stick with Palace as it also saved time as I didn't have to get another train.

9. Julia:- They were having an Oktoberfest night with free beer and had all the girls dress up in faux beer wench outfits. Normally I'm a sucker for lingerie and uniforms but my frequent FKK visits have programmed me to prefer the naked form not least as there are no surprises. My first girl of the night was a chestnut brown, slim, natural looking Romanian who was perhaps late 20's / early 30's. She had a pleasant demeanour and a lovely smile and her soft sell efforts reaped benefits..So the upsell was not bad now at palace then?

Be Wilder
11-11-17, 20:40
So the upsell was not bad now at palace then?To be honest, ever since I've started going to Palace in Sep 2015 (and I've made at least 10 visits in that time) I've never noticed any discernible difference between Palace and the other clubs in terms of upsell. It is because of it's reputation on this board that I waited that long before making my debut which I regret. It is probably true there are fewer girls at Palace who do DFK and DATY / RO as standard but that seems to be on the decline overall and as they are services I can live with or without it is not a big deal for me. I've had one girl (German Marie) reel off an extensive menu with lots of price options but even then, when I chose a basic it was delivered well and it is noticeable I've had fewer girls offer me a "E100 GFE" for 30 minutes at Palace than compared to Sharks and Oase. In my experience, Oase girls have been the worst in terms of attempted upsell but even that is manageable.

ExpatLover
11-11-17, 20:52
To be honest, ever since I've started going to Palace in Sep 2015 (and I've made at least 10 visits in that time) I've never noticed any discernible difference between Palace and the other clubs in terms of upsell. It is because of it's reputation on this board that I waited that long before making my debut which I regret. It is probably true there are fewer girls at Palace who do DFK and DATY / RO as standard but that seems to be on the decline overall and as they are services I can live with or without it is not a big deal for me. I've had one girl (German Marie) reel off an extensive menu with lots of price options but even then, when I chose a basic it was delivered well and it is noticeable I've had fewer girls offer me a "E100 GFE" for 30 minutes at Palace than compared to Sharks and Oase. In my experience, Oase girls have been the worst in terms of attempted upsell but even that is manageable.Palace girls are worst, Oase are very good girls now if some mongers like to be sucked I believe Palace is the right place.

Mr Ho
11-13-17, 08:57
To be honest, ever since I've started going to Palace in Sep 2015 (and I've made at least 10 visits in that time) I've never noticed any discernible difference between Palace and the other clubs in terms of upsell. It is because of it's reputation on this board that I waited that long before making my debut which I regret. It is probably true there are fewer girls at Palace who do DFK and DATY / RO as standard but that seems to be on the decline overall and as they are services I can live with or without it is not a big deal for me. I've had one girl (German Marie) reel off an extensive menu with lots of price options but even then, when I chose a basic it was delivered well and it is noticeable I've had fewer girls offer me a "E100 GFE" for 30 minutes at Palace than compared to Sharks and Oase. In my experience, Oase girls have been the worst in terms of attempted upsell but even that is manageable.I agree with you on Oase, too much upsell beyond acceptable point.

It is stupid, because if upsell is too much clients begin to change clubs.

Mr Ho
11-16-17, 05:33
How is LU this week?

JustMyStyle
11-18-17, 15:47
Personally confirmed all these positive feedback about "Marta" from Colombia. Completely agree about the great looking face, tight body, and pleasant personality without any awkwardness of pressure or upsell.

What's even more amazing is that she's now 36 years old.

Her 2017 trips were in April and October. October trip she extended from 4 to 6 weeks so around 18-Sep through 30-Oct.

Glad to have met her.


No she was definitely Colombian she showed me pictures of her in Colombia where she ran her own business and came to Germany annually (last I met her) to.

Make capital for it. And I used to have her private Colombian number and we texted each other until like an idiot I lost her number when I changed sims.

Yeah the good old days!

CharliesAngels
11-19-17, 02:02
HMMM. Will be in Frankfurt next week for 1 or 2 days so I guess I will have to pay a visit to Palace and Marta.

BadinSweet
11-19-17, 06:12
I wish you have updated here that she was in Palace in Sep and Oct and I was in Germany for many weeks during this time period. I assume that she is no longer at Palace now or is she?

Mr Ho
11-19-17, 07:32
HMMM. Will be in Frankfurt next week for 1 or 2 days so I guess I will have to pay a visit to Palace and Marta.Just my style said she was there in April and October, so I guess she is no longer there now?

CharliesAngels
11-20-17, 02:04
Just my style said she was there in April and October, so I guess she is no longer there now?Thursday Night I shall find out and keep you updated!

JustMyStyle
11-20-17, 19:39
I recently discovered these forums hence my post not being "real time" or more current to be a major benefit to the community.

I was compelled to create an account and to post because of this thread and another thread about whereabouts of WG that mentioned and closely resembles her description. Easy to connect the dots as not that many "Marta" from Colombia working at Palace.


I wish you have updated here that she was in Palace in Sep and Oct and I was in Germany for many weeks during this time period. I assume that she is no longer at Palace now or is she?

JustMyStyle
11-20-17, 19:43
That's correct. 2 trips this year and she indicated that this year may be her last as she hopes she never goes back.

But then again, who knows what she hopes, or what she mentions to a client like me, versus what she needs / wants and acts on it by going back being a WG as she has done 1-2 times a year for the past few years.


Just my style said she was there in April and October, so I guess she is no longer there now?

BadinSweet
11-20-17, 22:13
CharliesAngels, please let us know how is the line up on Thu and if Martha is there. I was tempted to visit Palace since Roxanna (ex-Sharks) is there now. And if Martha is present I will definitely make a stop at Palace. Thanks.

Danny227
11-21-17, 14:07
CharliesAngels, please let us know how is the line up on Thu and if Martha is there. I was tempted to visit Palace since Roxanna (ex-Sharks) is there now. And if Martha is present I will definitely make a stop at Palace. Thanks.Who is Martha?

Danny227
11-21-17, 14:14
I agree with you on Oase, too much upsell beyond acceptable point.

It is stupid, because if upsell is too much clients begin to change clubs.Different experience, Palace is by far the worst club in terms of upsell. Oase also has a few gems. In Oase I can always find something and in Palace not so much.

Pistons
11-21-17, 22:58
Different experience, Palace is by far the worst club in terms of upsell. Oase also has a few gems. In Oase I can always find something and in Palace not so much.My experience lately has been that Oase has the most upselling. But the lineup is also slightly better at Oase, so I won't risk a dead run. And that may happen at Palace where I don't really fancy any of the regulars. Meggie is not around enough, same with Anda. Not sure about Ruby these days. And the other girls there that I've met have just moved on I believe after short or semi short stays (Nicole, Crina and Lucy).

BadinSweet
11-21-17, 23:01
Danny227, see this post: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1867-FKK-Palace-Frankfurt&p=1349062&viewfull=1#post1349062.

DFWdude
11-21-17, 23:12
Is there still a Kino at Palace? Does any public action take place there?

Love Palace
11-21-17, 23:40
Is there still a Kino at Palace? Does any public action take place there?Yes, there is action like before in the Kino. Not much has change. Less upsell than before. You choose blue or yellow wristband. Blue means that girls shall know you will decide yourself to take contact. Yellow that they may. Nobody cares about the colour! Read the last reports. Many friendly girls with no upsell like Roxanne.

PussyLiccker
11-22-17, 10:32
Different experience, Palace is by far the worst club in terms of upsell. Oase also has a few gems. In Oase I can always find something and in Palace not so much.Both pretty fucking bad.

ExpatLover
11-22-17, 13:37
Different experience, Palace is by far the worst club in terms of upsell. Oase also has a few gems. In Oase I can always find something and in Palace not so much.I put my last feet in 2011 in this club before I was a VIP customer and spent 1000 and 1000 euros, the management of this club is just a disaster, therefor the girls are doing what they want, very good tourists trap or a perfect club for guys with low or very low expectations for the others better to forget.

Danny227
11-23-17, 08:19
Both pretty fucking bad.Actually had a good time in oase last week. Whats the alternative then. General club service in Oase is crappy.

FunExplorer
11-25-17, 11:38
This visit happened within two days of after my last visit on 10 October. Despite a Fair going on, the men were not much in number. I would guess, it would be about 15. However, the line up was disappointing. There were hardly 20 plus girls. Though there was not much up selling and girls were eager to go, I could hardly decide to take two of them spread over 6 hours!

I cannot write anything in particular about the two girls as in both cases the service level was below expectation and mechanical. One was a Romanian and other one was German. I doubt if I will return again to Palace.

CharliesAngels
11-27-17, 13:26
CharliesAngels, please let us know how is the line up on Thu and if Martha is there. I was tempted to visit Palace since Roxanna (ex-Sharks) is there now. And if Martha is present I will definitely make a stop at Palace. Thanks.Well guys just back from Frankfurt last night, and had 2 visits in Palace Thursday night and Friday night. Martha was not there, Roxanna night unless she changed her name! Line-up was OK there was a few stunners like Chantelle, Hope, Anna, Chiara and Stella was there to.

I think that prices have gone up a bit since my last visit in September.

Had a chat with girl at reception about the app and said its available on app store but still can't find it.

Overall had a very good first night, the second night good also but disappointed that my favourite girl wasn't there.

ExpatLover
11-27-17, 16:35
This visit happened within two days of after my last visit on 10 October. Despite a Fair going on, the men were not much in number. I would guess, it would be about 15. However, the line up was disappointing. There were hardly 20 plus girls. Though there was not much up selling and girls were eager to go, I could hardly decide to take two of them spread over 6 hours!

I cannot write anything in particular about the two girls as in both cases the service level was below expectation and mechanical. One was a Romanian and other one was German. I doubt if I will return again to Palace.If you are looking for a great experience at a reasonable price just forget this place, it is a tourist trap mostly visiting fairs in Frankfurt. Good fuck for them.

Shark16
11-27-17, 21:32
I think that prices have gone up a bit since my last visit in September.What's the current price structure?

Rogue Nation
11-27-17, 21:37
What's the current price structure?Same Same. Entrance 75 EUR. Half hour 50 EUR.

CharliesAngels
11-28-17, 02:21
What's the current price structure?Entrance at €75 as usual but the girls back in September where asking €50 first half hour as far as I can remember. This time around they were all starting at €100 half hour basic service any extras €50!

Danny227
11-30-17, 08:08
My experience lately has been that Oase has the most upselling. But the lineup is also slightly better at Oase, so I won't risk a dead run. And that may happen at Palace where I don't really fancy any of the regulars. Meggie is not around enough, same with Anda. Not sure about Ruby these days. And the other girls there that I've met have just moved on I believe after short or semi short stays (Nicole, Crina and Lucy).Different experiences, but still strange because Palace is the ultimate upsell club.

Tristan45
12-04-17, 10:51
Does anyone know if the big natural busty Maria still works at Palace? Or if there are any other girls like her there now?

Sebastiane
12-04-17, 22:53
I just read that Martha is back at Palace? I saw her last in 2015 and she looked as hot as she did back in 2007-2010. If it's true then I'm going to Palace ASAP.

Mr Ho
12-05-17, 12:29
I just read that Martha is back at Palace? I saw her last in 2015 and she looked as hot as she did back in 2007-2010. If it's true then I'm going to Palace ASAP.I was at Palace like 10 days ago for total of 3 nights, I did not see her.

I also read some forum report she came twice this year and she is gone back.

CharliesAngels
12-06-17, 02:39
I was at Palace like 10 days ago for total of 3 nights, I did not see her.

I also read some forum report she came twice this year and she is gone back.I also was at Palace about 2 weeks ago for 2 nights and did not see her! Is it possible to find out if the girl you want is working on the night you intend to visit?

JustMyStyle
12-07-17, 02:55
Unfortunately for us, this is true.

Her flight from Frankfurt back to Colombia on her second visit was on 30-Oct.

Over dinner at the club, she mentioned that 2017 may be her last year primarily because:

1. She now has a 1-year old child.

2. She is now connected with a few millionaire clients ruining it all for us, I. E. Taking her out on $10 K-$15 K dinners and have kept wiring her gifts to be able to retire in her home country.


I was at Palace like 10 days ago for total of 3 nights, I did not see her.

I also read some forum report she came twice this year and she is gone back.

Mr Ho
12-07-17, 04:03
I also was at Palace about 2 weeks ago for 2 nights and did not see her! Is it possible to find out if the girl you want is working on the night you intend to visit?Used to be on website, then now not, and maybe on mobile app you can find out.

But you can call before you go as many sleep behind the palace, so they know who is coming when more or less.

Mac75
12-10-17, 19:44
Does Ella still work at Palace, blonde Moldovan girl but living in Germany a long time? Last mention I see of her on thread is March, I was with her December last year would love to repeat her again.

Pistons
12-11-17, 04:21
Different experiences, but still strange because Palace is the ultimate upsell club.GT Vienna is worse. But then again, I will never return there either.

Mr Ho
12-11-17, 16:36
Does Ella still work at Palace, blonde Moldovan girl but living in Germany a long time? Last mention I see of her on thread is March, I was with her December last year would love to repeat her again.She has blue eye and looks like Jodie foster, and stunner almost beside her ass is bit too big? If so she was there two weeks ago.

Mac75
12-12-17, 22:28
She has blue eye and looks like Jodie foster, and stunner almost beside her ass is bit too big? If so she was there two weeks ago.Thanks for your help but I reckon it's a different girl, I wouldn't describe her as looking like Jodie Foster. Most people think of Jodie from her role in Silence of the Lambs, I think of her as the child hooker in Taxi Driver!

Danny227
12-13-17, 13:26
GT Vienna is worse. But then again, I will never return there either.Absolutely, the only difficulty is the need to session again with some favorites.

SAS40
12-14-17, 23:18
What's next week like, all gone home and everything quiet or?

DarrylN
12-15-17, 17:09
Thanks guys.

Mr Ho
12-16-17, 05:30
Thanks guys.I think yes, but it is better to go to club like Sharks last year where they pay girls to work over new year so that line up is more or less good enough.

Jake993
12-16-17, 14:54
Thanks guys.I was there today and asked on your behalf.

Apparently, on Dec 25th and January 1st, The Palace will open at 17:00 (5:00 PM) until 4:00.

By the way, nothing seem to have changed since last time I was there which was more than two years ago.

I engaged the services of two girls. Veronique from Poland (who was a bit of a pain in the ass and more trouble than she was worth) and a hot little spinner from Romania named Irena (who was more fun than a barrel of monkeys). A real 3 hole'er who was up for anything with a great attitude.

I had an overnight layover so I arrived at Palace right at opening (10:00 AM). As one could guess is was pretty dead being Saturday morning a week before Christmas. But the mood was festive and even though the girls were not very busy they were laughing and joking.

Nuupter
12-16-17, 16:36
My experience in palace on Wednesday was that the girls are starting to have even more up sell, even if I said I been there before. Carla the tits who used to work in oase already quit. She does not look pretty anymore. Every girl I talked to wants 150 for an hour if kissing, DATY, etc included. 100 is normal BJ and sex. Well if that's the case I will pick 50 eu for 30 min. The up sell is so bad I only went with one Romanian girl forgot her name. Saw a few German. One is the super tall girl from Berlin, wears glasses, one of the dark skin German look good to me, but her ass is not to my liking, and she also wants 150 eu, said it's standard price. LOL. I saw a long time working girl. And from Romania, she has the prettiest body I ever seen. I told one girl I really wanted to go with from Romania who has a very pretty face and size that fits my taste, she was clothed up so could not see how she looked nude. It was seasons tag. I told her I have good times in oase for 100 eu and DATY kissing etc is included. She told me here it's 150 you should go to oase if you want 100 per HR. She said girls in oase are not as pretty as palace. Well to bad for her. I could have been her night session regular and have potential to earn more than 150 on the days I was there if she agreed on 100 per hour. I never did went with her, but when a Asian walked out from room with her, her nude body was a 12 out of 10. It's not a typo. She asked me later if I still want to go with her, but I could not pull the plug. She told me to go oase to find my girl. Of course these are all said in a friendly manner. I was about to go with her to room but stopped her and talked about price. Lucky I did.

NNC1701
12-16-17, 17:51
I engaged the services of two girls. Veronique from Poland (who was a bit of a pain in the ass and more trouble than she was worth)...What did this Veronique from Poland look like? Silicone? Why was she a pain in the ass?

Jake993
12-17-17, 06:54
What did this Veronique from Poland look like? Silicone? Why was she a pain in the ass?Veronique was tall and blonde. Sort of floppy tits but a nice smile and nice disposition.

But once inside the room she ran down the price list like we were discussing the price of fish. It seemed more about how much she was going to get paid and less about what I wanted. And then she whipped out the "new rule" about CBJ only. Maybe "pain in the ass" was the wrong way to describe it.

Just an observation, last time I was at Palace (more than two years ago) the predominant language being spoken around the place was German. Yesterday, it was English. Interesting. Maybe that is a reflection of the changing demographics in Germany? Maybe just coincidence?

Oh well, back to Dubai and Asian Massage Parlors. Wish we had FKK.

Rogue Nation
12-17-17, 11:23
Palace has had more non German than German visitors over the last 5 years. Regulars have abandoned the club and gone to clubs with better or more consistent service levels.

CharliesAngels
12-18-17, 04:08
My experience in palace on Wednesday was that the girls are starting to have even more up sell, even if I said I been there before. Carla the tits who used to work in oase already quit. She does not look pretty anymore. Every girl I talked to wants 150 for an hour if kissing, DATY, etc included. 100 is normal BJ and sex. Well if that's the case I will pick 50 eu for 30 min. The up sell is so bad I only went with one Romanian girl forgot her name. Saw a few German. One is the super tall girl from Berlin, wears glasses, one of the dark skin German look good to me, but her ass is not to my liking, and she also wants 150 eu, said it's standard price. LOL. I saw a long time working girl. And from Romania, she has the prettiest body I ever seen. I told one girl I really wanted to go with from Romania who has a very pretty face and size that fits my taste, she was clothed up so could not see how she looked nude. It was seasons tag. I told her I have good times in oase for 100 eu and DATY kissing etc is included. She told me here it's 150 you should go to oase if you want 100 per HR. She said girls in oase are not as pretty as palace. Well to bad for her. I could have been her night session regular and have potential to earn more than 150 on the days I was there if she agreed on 100 per hour. I never did went with her, but when a Asian walked out from roo Did Carla quit just for the Christmas holidays or did she quit Palace?

Action22
12-20-17, 01:31
Palace has had more non German than German visitors over the last 5 years. Regulars have abandoned the club and gone to clubs with better or more consistent service levels..They've been personally banned (as well as Artemis) since 2011. Quite frankly, the management treats the clientele like marks, and not deutschmarks either.

Nuupter
12-20-17, 03:35
Did Carla quit just for the Christmas holidays or did she quit Palace?She quit the job. Has a normal married life now.

Mr Ho
12-20-17, 05:54
She quit the job. Has a normal married life now.I wonder if husband know that she was on shelf for 50 euro per 30 min LOL.

Rogue Nation
12-20-17, 07:58
Quite frankly, the management treats the clientele like marks, and not deutschmarks either.I find the staff and management at Palace quite friendly. They treat me well. But they all know me for a while.

Pistons
12-20-17, 22:19
I find the staff and management at Palace quite friendly. They treat me well. But they all know me for a while.Indeed, palace has some of the best staff. Nice receptionists. Love the polish bartender etc too. Too bad not available.

Takzeh
12-20-17, 22:48
Was there Wednesday between 16:00 and 21:00. Super empty when I arrived, 3-10 blokes (depending on how many were in rooms) and 4-12 girls. There were only 3 girls at most on the floor, and there were periods when there was only 1, at least until 19:00 ish. I went with two girls. The only other girls name which I remember that I talked to was Lulu (brunette and tattoo sleeve on arm) who said she was from Salzburg in Austria.

First girl. Mikki or however she spells her name, blonde shoulder length hair with collar, 24 ish I would say, natural boobs. Went for 30 min session she tried to tell me it was 100 for BBBJ and kissing for half an hour but I insisted on paying 50 EUR for 30 minutes so we went with CBJ and no kissing which was fine with me, I wasn't looking for GFE. Done the deed, was kinda meh but whatever. 50 EUR and then some sauna and shower. Sitting at the bar and order a beer for 7 EUR, what a rip off, it didn't taste great. Wouldn't recommend.

Second session with tall blonde saying her name was starting with A. Can't remember what exactly maybe Adiya? It was a strange name. She said she was from Moldovia but studied in Romania, which was probably bullshit as I think she's from Romania. No fake tits, maybe be cup, quite tall, 178 cm. We get in room and talk a bit, then she asks what I want and I ask what do you provide. For 1 hour BBBJ, kissing, DATY - 200 EUR. I said no way and we talked a bit more and she started rubbing her body against me so my willpower went down and she said the same service for 150 EUR and I caved. Much better than the first session but I'm starting to think this is less and less worth it overall. Don't think I'll visit FKKs in the future.

Grabbed some food before I left, wasn't anything great but I've had worse. Went for a last water and saw A whatever her name was again (second session) and we talked for a bit then I left. Overall girls weren't super pushy but some girls said it was so empty because it's the week before Christmas, as I am not a regular I cannot confirm or deny this but felt the better optical girls started arriving between 20-21:00, no idea about their service. Palace is still nice if you want to have sex with some bimbos with big fake tits I guess and I'm sure you can find some gems if you go often enough. Mainhattan is also rolling with the 100 EUR for 30 min session BBBJ. Haven't been to Sharks since before summer so dunno about that place. But yea, not feeling the FKKs like I used to.

CharliesAngels
12-21-17, 02:26
She quit the job. Has a normal married life now.I wonder if this is the same girl we are talking about? Long blond hair, name tattooed down her back, tattoo on leg and stars tattoos on ribs?

PussyLiccker
12-21-17, 17:10
Takzeh, thanks for an informative report. I think the difference in upsells is whether you bring up what you require with a girl before hand or not, although in certain clubs especially if you are not known and known to be highly touristy, she'd likely want a discussion of how much she is looking for. I know guys that want to be highly sure what they want in the room, and brings it up, and this doesn't float so well in club like Palace. Either you take a risk or you weed them out. If one's satified with 50 Euros suck and fuck, they will not run into upsells much.

After you weed them out, hopefully there a girl to your taste left over? LOL.

Optimist
12-21-17, 17:21
Takzeh. Thanks for the really helpful report, nicely written: I can feel the disappointment coming off of it. As you indicate, with this level of service and price, FKK is losing its allure

Nuupter
12-22-17, 04:47
I wonder if this is the same girl we are talking about? Long blond hair, name tattooed down her back, tattoo on leg and stars tattoos on ribs?

I forgot if she has tattoos,but she is mentioned a lot in the oase thread.blonde to almost shoulder,perfect looking boobs,or Carla the tits.also ex world

Peter Gord
12-22-17, 15:19
Does Palace still have a kino? One of my kinks is sessioning in public. I've done it a few times at Mainhattan and once it happened that there was another monger doing a girl on the other side of the bed and that was hot too. I've never been to Palace and thought I'd check it out, but I wanted to know about the kino. Anyone knows? Thanks.

Rogue Nation
12-22-17, 16:49
Does Palace still have a kino?Sure. Cinema does still exist.

Jmioffe
12-22-17, 21:40
Indeed, palace has some of the best staff. Nice receptionists. Love the polish bartender etc too. Too bad not available.I agree, I like them too. Which one is the Polish one? There's a young brunette that's relatively new, a perky spiky-haired blonde and an older spiky-haired blonde. They're all great.

I try to mentally slot them as "family" though -- I'm sure if they wanted to provide, they would, and I'm sure they get plenty of inappropriate border-crossing by virtue of their jobs anyway. I'd hate for them to feel like they have to raise the be*t*h shields.

Pistons
12-22-17, 21:57
I agree, I like them too. Which one is the Polish one? There's a young brunette that's relatively new, a perky spiky-haired blonde and an older spiky-haired blonde. They're all great.I don't know about how new she is, but she's a brunette. Seen her at least for over a year. Probably longer.

Nuupter
12-23-17, 00:57
I wonder if husband know that she was on shelf for 50 euro per 30 min LOL.LOL probably he does.

Member #4585
12-23-17, 01:53
LOL probably he does.I really believe she does. All through her FKK career I have seen she is with a Romanian boyfriend and they seem very much in love. I don't know what relationship he has with her work but they are together.

Just like other girls are engaged to be married.

ExpatLover
12-23-17, 13:44
I really believe she does. All through her FKK career I have seen she is with a Romanian boyfriend and they seem very much in love. I don't know what relationship he has with her work but they are together.

Just like other girls are engaged to be married.In a relation between a prostitute and a friend, or husband usually the girl is the one who is losing, just because I don t believe that many men are proud to introduce her to the family or relations, when a girl worked more than 5 years as a prostitute her mind set is usually quite negatively affected and difficult for her to rebuild a standard life. In 15 years of mongering unfortunately I saw so or too many girls trying to change their life but coming back after several years or months to be a prostitute just because they were not able to manage something else. Despite what some are telling to be a prostitute working in apartments or clubs having 10 to 20 clients every thing is not without a strong mental impact for most of them, obviously this is not valid for girls who are really doing escort only outcall and meeting guys in five stars hotels every day 1 time, but less and less girls are doing that more and more are saying they are independent escort but they are working 12 to 15 hours per day in apartments in many European cities and getting 50 to 70 euros for 30 minutes, is this being a escort not for me sorry.

FredZee
12-23-17, 21:20
The only other girls name which I remember that I talked to was Lulu (brunette and tattoo sleeve on arm) who said she was from Salzburg in Austria.Takzeh, you mentioned Lulu in your posting. How did she look, still an amazing body and face? I had a room with her at Artemis 5 years ago and it was quite good and she looked great, well, she would be even better with the tattoos.

Rogue Nation
12-23-17, 22:27
Takzeh, you mentioned Lulu in your posting. How did she look, still an amazing body and face? I had a room with her at Artemis 5 years ago and it was quite good and she looked great, well, she would be even better with the tattoos.Heavily tattooed. Skins around her huge implants looks like its tearing apart any minute, they are too heavy and begin to sag a bit. Body is still in great shape.

CharliesAngels
12-24-17, 02:32
I had a 1 hour session with Lulu back in September and was amazing. Brunette tattoo sleeve nice brown skin with blue eyes. Would repeat any day!

FredZee
12-24-17, 04:22
Takzeh, you mentioned Lulu in your posting. How did she look, still an amazing body and face? I had a room with her at Artemis 5 years ago and it was quite good and she looked great, well, she would be even better with the tattoos.I meant to say ". Better without the tattoos. ".

FredZee
12-24-17, 04:29
Heavily tattooed. Skins around her huge implants looks like its tearing apart any minute, they are too heavy and begin to sag a bit. Body is still in great shape.Thanks RN for the feedback. How's her service in the room now? Back then with me it was just a serious workout in the best possible way. I think I called it "sports f*cking". I recalled her only upsell with me during our room at Artemis went something like this.

Lulu "I am an an*l virgin today, can you help me loose my virginity?

Me "Sorry, just did that in the last room I had".

Perhaps I will make a trip to Palace to relive the experience with her. Hope her upselling / sharkiness doesn't ruin the experience if I take a room again with her.

Mr Ho
12-24-17, 05:28
LOL probably he does.Per 30 min would be cheaper for husband, but if he decides to keep her for long time or life which marriage is. Then it would end up costing husband of hers much much more than what we paid at FKK in all areas like money, time, effort, stress etc.

Rogue Nation
12-24-17, 09:33
Guess she performs well for 100 plus €. Never been with her. Her boobs are turning me off.

FredZee
12-25-17, 01:44
I had a 1 hour session with Lulu back in September and was amazing. Brunette tattoo sleeve nice brown skin with blue eyes. Would repeat any day!What was the cost for the hour?

CharliesAngels
12-25-17, 02:05
What was the cost for the hour?That night it cost €150 for GFE which was very good, BBBJ, 69, and sex with umbrella. All in all good service!

FredZee
12-26-17, 07:57
That night it cost 150 for GFE which was very good, BBBJ, 69, and sex with umbrella. All in all good service!Thanks CA for the information. I guess that's par for the course at Palace for good service for an hour.

Danny227
12-26-17, 14:07
Heavily tattooed. Skins around her huge implants looks like its tearing apart any minute, they are too heavy and begin to sag a bit. Body is still in great shape.Lulu has been in the business for years. I don't think she is particularly good as compared to years before or as compared to what is available at that price. She has her program and she is good in her dancing space, but that's all there is. Her blowjob can really take the skin of a dick, every now and then on doggy there are amazing scents coming up from her anus, she can fuck really hard, which can be pleasing at times, but 4-5 years ago she was a stunner for her look type and her service was better.

Jmioffe
12-27-17, 16:58
Lulu has been in the business for years. I don't think she is particularly good as compared to years before or as compared to what is available at that price. She has her program and she is good in her dancing space, but that's all there is. Her blowjob can really take the skin of a dick, every now and then on doggy there are amazing scents coming up from her anus, she can fuck really hard, which can be pleasing at times, but 4-5 years ago she was a stunner for her look type and her service was better.I've had decent times with Lulu. You seem pretty discerning -- if she's not "particularly good," who do you favor?

And what's an amazing anus scent? Some women's scents really do it for me, but usually it's in their sweat or even their secretions when they get wet, but I've never detected anything other than doubtful scents from that area of the body.

I feel like a lite beer drinker talking to an oenophile.

FredZee
12-27-17, 21:13
I've had decent times with Lulu. You seem pretty discerning -- if she's not "particularly good," who do you favor?

And what's an amazing anus scent? Some women's scents really do it for me, but usually it's in their sweat or even their secretions when they get wet, but I've never detected anything other than doubtful scents from that area of the body.

I feel like a lite beer drinker talking to an oenophile.All, thanks for your feedback. Perhaps it is best to keep the good memories from the past and not try to replace them five years later in my case with Lulu. She was a real stunner back then with less tattoos and with what sounds like more tattoos now. Not my cup of tea.

Be Wilder
12-27-17, 21:31
With some holidays I had to take before the end of the year and the weekend, I had 4 days off. Thought about staying in Dubai and having a different girl each night (one black, one brown, one white and one yellow as diversity is one of the few things the Dubai scene has got going for it) but as I've become jaded / underwhelmed with the Dubai scene the past couple of years, decided to squeeze in one last FKK trip for the year. With flights and hotels, the overall trip was more expensive than staying in Dubai but figured I'd have far more fun in Frankfurt even if it was 1 day less as 1 day is taken up with flying back. It is funny how what was once an annual treat has now become a quarterly fixture over the last two years!

Spent a day at each of my favourite clubs. Started at Palace as it is the easiest to get to by public transport and save around E50 by getting a train from the airport into Frankfurt rather than a cab to Darmstadt or Friedrichsdorf for Sharks or Oase.

Got there at about 5 pm. Throughout the night there must have been 40-50 girls in total. Perhaps quieter than my trips early in the summer and whilst some notable girls are no longer there, the general quality was still good. Overall I had 4 sessions with the following girls.

1. Maria: - Perhaps not immediately striking but is a cute to pretty looking girl with porcelain skin, brown hair to her shoulders and I liked her fresh faced look. Medium height and medium build with a nice pair of natural tits. It also helped that she was wearing a black basque but with her tits out and opaque stockings. A combo that always works for me.

In the room, she was a perfectly pleasant girl. Service was also fine and a decent blow job was followed by me mounting her missionary style which is how I finished. A nice start to the trip. E50.

2. Veronica: - was torn between a natural looking but unconventional looking, young German with pale skin and big natural knockers, a blonde dolly bird type and a young brunette who I also noticed last time. She was clad in a fishnet body stocking but seemed to only show interest in Asian guys and I didn't bother chatting to her. Went for the Barbie albeit an older version. Veronica is Polish with striking blonde bimbo looks which is rare in Dubai so I tend to have more of them when in Frnakfurt. Slim, natural figure and facially attractive and seemed pleasant enough.

In the room there was little in the way of foreplay. Just on with the condom and started sucking. She then asked me how I liked it. I said "nice and slow" to which she offered me her GFE for an extra E50. It is not something I ever take up and as her service was otherwise bland decided not to waste a shot on her. Let her suck away but managed to hold off coming. E50.

3. Danielle: - An old favourite. Tall, shapely, brunette, deep tan, facially attractive and very big fake boobs. Danielle claims to be from the Canary Islands and she may well be as she has a Spanish look about her. I've previously been with her three times, each time in a threesome and each time her service, timekeeping and attitude has been impeccable. This time I decided to take her alone and had another wonderful experience.

Nice tender foreplay, a great blowjob that didn't take long to get me fully erect and I ended up doing her in missionary. The only problem with the session was she was too good and I ended up cumming before 30 minutes whereas I had planned on a full hour. I hope she is about next time I'm in town as I will definitely take my time savouring her properly. E50.

4. Katherine and Sabrina: - Katherine is an old favourite who I've been with 5 times now, the last time as a part of a 4 girl blow team of which Sabrina was also a part. Wasn't feeling so frisky this time and so only had the pair. They are both very attractive women (Katherine is tall, slim, natural tits, brown hair usually tied up and has a distinctive turned up nose, whereas Sabrina is more petite, younger, slim-medium build, fake tits and a deep tan) and they took turns sucking me off, whilst the other nuzzled on my chest or presented her tits for a chew or her arse for a spank. They are both vocal, Katherine more so and she finished me off with a HJ. E100.

Overall a good night but I can't help but thinking that Palace has lost something since the Summer. Some old favourites have gone but that is part and parcel of the game but more poignantly I feel the new law has had an adverse impact. On the whole it has become a no owo as default club and generally speaking the girls was less prone to offering DFK and DATY as standard anyway which never bothered me so much but put that together with no owo and it seems a whole lot more sterile. I still like the place so will visit again but perhaps give it the graveyard shift of my last day on a visit.

CharliesAngels
12-28-17, 15:14
Any body going to the New Years Eve party? Would be great way to bring in the new year! LOL.

MagicM
12-29-17, 14:32
Any body going to the New Years Eve party? Would be great way to bring in the new year! LOL.I'm going there. It's my first time celebrating New Year's Eve in a FKK. I hope the lineup will be good.

CharliesAngels
01-04-18, 02:00
I'm going there. It's my first time celebrating New Year's Eve in a FKK. I hope the lineup will be good.So how did the party go? Did you get a Happy ending to 2017? LOL. How about line up? Hope you had a good time!

Member #4585
01-23-18, 00:10
The talk with the locals suggests that the situation is implying that Palace is back on the cards. The reasoning is with CBJ prevalent at World, Mainhattan now even Oase that maybe Palace provide an alternative as a place to go where new pastures can be found. Palace has been doing some things to rectify its less than perfect reputation for service levels.

If Roxanna is still at Palace then she gives Sharks style service to her Sharks regulars that come to the Palace.

Just musings with locals.

ExpatLover
01-23-18, 00:33
The talk with the locals suggests that the situation is implying that Palace is back on the cards. The reasoning is with CBJ prevalent at World, Mainhattan now even Oase that maybe Palace provide an alternative as a place to go where new pastures can be found. Palace has been doing some things to rectify its less than perfect reputation for service levels.

If Roxanna is still at Palace then she gives Sharks style service to her Sharks regulars that come to the Palace.

Just musings with locals.If I listen what senior mongers told me in the last 10 days about palace I really can't confirm the improvement.

Ortos
01-23-18, 07:27
The talk with the locals suggests that the situation is implying that Palace is back on the cards. The reasoning is with CBJ prevalent at World, Mainhattan now even Oase that maybe Palace provide an alternative as a place to go where new pastures can be found. Palace has been doing some things to rectify its less than perfect reputation for service levels.Thanks for this post, Bitumen. I actually had the same idea I'm mu head: Is Palace back on the table? Only one way to really know for oneself, right? Got go to see.

A question specifically for Bitumem: If you do visit Palace in near future, as an experienced Sharks and Oase guy who likes to work the floor sifting through the line up, upon entering Palace, would you choose "the approach" or "the non-approach" band? I curious as to your tactics here.

ExpatLover
01-23-18, 21:09
Thanks for this post, Bitumen. I actually had the same idea I'm mu head: Is Palace back on the table? Only one way to really know for oneself, right? Got go to see.

A question specifically for Bitumem: If you do visit Palace in near future, as an experienced Sharks and Oase guy who likes to work the floor sifting through the line up, upon entering Palace, would you choose "the approach" or "the non-approach" band? I curious as to your tactics here.Today at Oase spoke with 2 local guys, no palace is not back it is still a tourist trap and nothing to expect for 50 euro, or you can masturbate in the room without touching the girl.

Rogue Nation
01-24-18, 10:09
The reasoning is with CBJ prevalent at World, Mainhattan now even Oase

Palace has been doing some things to rectify its less than perfect reputation for service levels.Any substantial information behind these rumors? What has changed at World or Oase? As far as I know and experienced nothing changed in the past few months. Same for Palace.

What did Palace do to "rectify its less than perfect reputation for service levels"?

Hermann666
01-24-18, 21:55
Thanks for this post, Bitumen. I actually had the same idea I'm mu head: Is Palace back on the table? Only one way to really know for oneself, right? Got go to see.

A question specifically for Bitumem: If you do visit Palace in near future, as an experienced Sharks and Oase guy who likes to work the floor sifting through the line up, upon entering Palace, would you choose "the approach" or "the non-approach" band? I curious as to your tactics here.The band is hidden under the robe most of the time and when it wasn't it didn't make much difference when I was there. I tried both and girls came up to me no matter what. All were very polite and not pushy at all though.

Pistons
01-25-18, 00:17
Indeed, the colored band is a joke. On my 2 or 3 visits since they started with this, it made 0% difference. It is absolutely only a psychological gimmick towards the punters. Or maybe just a marketing thing. But in the club it has no meaning.

Pistons
01-25-18, 00:22
I am not sure this is how it is though, but on my visits at Palace last year I did have a feeling that some of the old groups who were pushing new girls into upselling had lost some of their foothold. A few had left etc, and newer girls didn't seem to upsell as much. So perhaps it is some sort of a new start, or maybe the upsell league will strengthen their numbers again.

BadinSweet
01-25-18, 00:53
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If Roxanna is still at Palace then she gives Sharks style service to her Sharks regulars that come to the Palace.

Just musings with locals.I was told that she likes it here and makes good money. She is still back at home but I am sure she will be back.

Sirioja
01-25-18, 03:08
Indeed, the colored band is a joke. On my 2 or 3 visits since they started with this, it made 0% difference. It is absolutely only a psychological gimmick towards the punters. Or maybe just a marketing thing. But in the club it has no meaning.Same experience, even with grey, they come, but in a friendly way.

Mr Ho
01-25-18, 07:42
Indeed, the colored band is a joke. On my 2 or 3 visits since they started with this, it made 0% difference. It is absolutely only a psychological gimmick towards the punters. Or maybe just a marketing thing. But in the club it has no meaning.I must say most girls become nicer when they are told no thank you politely, not all though. The funny thing is they curse at you and come back after like 30 minutes to approach again. I mean they got the memory of goldfish LOL.

Upsell remains. You don't like upsell, palace is not the place to be still.

Sirioja
01-25-18, 07:58
I was told that she likes it here and makes good money. She is still back at home but I am sure she will be back.Among high casting, even she was new, she was not busy at Wellcum on last August, but Sharks or Palace can t compete with Wellcum last August casting. She was my first Sharks girl on beginning of 2014, when I saw her walking downstairs, but it was before silicon.

Rajat1
01-29-18, 16:39
After my average experience at sharks, visited palace last night with hopes of finding what I like.

Reached at around 6 pm, a bit tired after full day work. Wanted to reach and relax a bit. Palace setup is nice, though I couldn't find anything to eat, being a vegetarian. Ordered a beer and sat at the bar to have a clear look of the lineup. At 6 pm it looked fairly less but the numbers was growing with every minute. The best part of course I saw a lot of girls with natural racks. I am not a fan of silicones, so much so that I find them ugly. I was sad at sharks and a bit sad at palace when I see so many beautiful girls going for silicones. It's a NONo for me if it's silicone.

Selected this young, girl next door, looking babe named Maria. She is from Romania and has a percent face with petite body. She upsold herself for 100 Euro but promised kissing, massage and everything but anal. I took the plunge and turned to be an awesome experience. She took me for a ride in the room with CBJ, lots of kissing, licking etc. I finished in doggy. After that she did the promised massage.

Time for relaxation. Took steam, sauna, nap, coffee etc. They celebrated some girls birthday there as well. Looked nice.

Time for round 2. , Picked up same girl Maria. For half an hour this time. Took her in different positions this time. Doggy, on top, cowgirl, missionary and finally came in doggy.

All in all fantastic!

Mr Ho
01-29-18, 22:44
After my average experience at sharks, visited palace last night with hopes of finding what I like.

Reached at around 6 pm, a bit tired after full day work. Wanted to reach and relax a bit. Palace setup is nice, though I couldn't find anything to eat, being a vegetarian. Ordered a beer and sat at the bar to have a clear look of the lineup. At 6 pm it looked fairly less but the numbers was growing with every minute. The best part of course I saw a lot of girls with natural racks. I am not a fan of silicones, so much so that I find them ugly. I was sad at sharks and a bit sad at palace when I see so many beautiful girls going for silicones. It's a NONo for me if it's silicone.

Selected this young, girl next door, looking babe named Maria. She is from Romania and has a percent face with petite body. She upsold herself for 100 Euro but promised kissing, massage and everything but anal. I took the plunge and turned to be an awesome experience. She took me for a ride in the room with CBJ, lots of kissing, licking etc. I finished in doggy. After that she did the promised massage.

Time for relaxation.100 Euro for CBJ? Man! You got ripped off mate! That is real bad deal, CBJ is 50 euro 30 min deal.

Rajat1
01-30-18, 13:19
I am alright with CBJ, I keep my risks to minimum.

Turgid
02-05-18, 21:21
100 Euro for CBJ? Man! You got ripped off mate! That is real bad deal, CBJ is 50 euro 30 min deal.His first session was for 1 hour so 100 E is normal. I'm guessing he paid 50 E for the second session which he said was 1/2 hour.

Mr Ho
02-05-18, 22:15
His first session was for 1 hour so 100 E is normal. I'm guessing he paid 50 E for the second session which he said was 1/2 hour.Well now it is 70 euro for 30 min for BBBJ session or with some girl 100 euro for BBBJ and DFK included. Of course it is palace, so it is upsell club, one has to negotiate.

Kosher Kowboy
02-06-18, 13:32
The talk with the locals suggests that the situation is implying that Palace is back on the cards. The reasoning is with CBJ prevalent at World, Mainhattan now even Oase that maybe Palace provide an alternative as a place to go where new pastures can be found. Palace has been doing some things to rectify its less than perfect reputation for service levels.
.Interesting viewpoint just posted something similar in the Mainhattten thread based on my experiences there, some experiences friends from TX have had at both city clubs mentioned by you and just the opinion that if the rumors of upsells at Oase and perhaps Sharks are true (they tried on me) than IMHO it could potentially open up potential for the city clubs and the guys who want to go there to maybe roll the dice. 50 e is only 2-3 bad hands of poker or blackjack why not gamble it sometime. One can always gamble the 50 e in the city and if you lose take the subway or tram 11 a few stops and hop on the S2 to Dietzenbach to visit the most beautiful non-prude women in the world and average out

:D


Well now it is 70 euro for 30 min for BBBJ session or with some girl 100 euro for BBBJ and DFK included. Of course it is palace, so it is upsell club, one has to negotiate.

Granted club entry is a tad higher, 70e for a 30 min BBBJ session is stealing still per US Standards, and if you take in to account transport fees 2 sessions for 40e more total at Palace over Sharks/oase is just as cost effective if not more than paying the transport costs RT to other clubs... And if one is tossing 100e notes at Sharks now ( seems to be quite common now guys happily paying 100e from discussions I have had with others) why not try out Palace if the above pricing is accurate and from what I hear the LU appealing to the eye ( at least for an American)
Be interesting to see...

Mr Ho
02-06-18, 13:45
Interesting viewpoint just posted something similar in the Mainhattten thread based on my experiences there, some experiences friends from TX have had at both city clubs mentioned by you and just the opinion that if the rumors of upsells at Oase and perhaps Sharks are true (they tried on me) than IMHO it could potentially open up potential for the city clubs and the guys who want to go there to maybe roll the dice. 50 e is only 2-3 bad hands of poker or blackjack why not gamble it sometime. One can always gamble the 50 e in the city and if you lose take the subway or tram 11 a few stops and hop on the S2 to Dietzenbach to visit the most beautiful non-prude women in the world and average out..Well Palace is the most upseling of all German FKK, but now I hear Artemis and Oase are on the same level as palace.

I do like Palace a lot for having diverse line up, not just Romanian girls. Need more new German girls added to line up now though.

Wanking
02-06-18, 16:34
I am alright with CBJ, I keep my risks to minimum.I did a girl in the Bochum Rld last week and her CBJ was pretty good, but covered fucking I can just feel nothing.

Wanking
02-06-18, 16:39
The reasoning is with CBJ prevalent at World, Mainhattan now even Oase that maybe Palace provide an alternative as a place to go where new pastures can be found. Palace has been doing some things to rectify its less than perfect reputation for service levels.
I could probably live with covered BJ and covered fucking in every club in Hoormany if that's what it comes to, and it definitely is heading that way, but don't take away the licking. If the licking goes ill probably stop going.

ExpatLover
02-06-18, 21:18
Well now it is 70 euro for 30 min for BBBJ session or with some girl 100 euro for BBBJ and DFK included. Of course it is palace, so it is upsell club, one has to negotiate.If we all refuse to pay for BJ without and licking and we just want a good service for 50 euro, the girls will have no choice that to change their mind, we are stupid to accept to pay more for at the endless, but all this is just a dream Asian guys and the tourists have totally destroy the price structure at palace, Manhattan, Oase and shark, world is better but difficult to get a BJ without with a new girl.

Member #4585
02-07-18, 01:56
I could probably live with covered BJ and covered fucking in every club in Hoormany if that's what it comes to, and it definitely is heading that way, but don't take away the licking. If the licking goes ill probably stop going.Wanking,

As far as I know, the new condom laws do not apply to licking the fanny of a tute.

Go out and lick them smelly ass holes and putrid twats. I know you want to.

Member #4585
02-07-18, 02:07
Interesting viewpoint just posted something similar in the Mainhattten thread based on my experiences there, some experiences friends from TX have had at both city clubs mentioned by you and just the opinion that if the rumors of upsells at Oase and perhaps Sharks are true (they tried on me) than IMHO it could potentially open up potential for the city clubs and the guys who want to go there to maybe roll the dice. 50 e is only 2-3 bad hands of poker or blackjack why not gamble it sometime. One can always gamble the 50 e in the city and if you lose take the subway or tram 11 a few stops and hop on the S2 to Dietzenbach to visit the most beautiful non-prude women in the world and average out The city clubs of Palace and Mainhattan are indeed possibilities but there is the specter of CBJ. As we have discussed, one needs to find the cracks in the Romanian cartel to find the fawn that falters and allows the BBBJ for the sake of anonymity and receiving some dough to cover her expenses.

Take a gamble and see what comes up. The results may be more in our favor than the fixed odds machines.


Granted club entry is a tad higher, 70e for a 30 min BBBJ session is stealing still per US Standards, and if you take in to account transport fees 2 sessions for 40e more total at Palace over Sharks/oase is just as cost effective if not more than paying the transport costs RT to other clubs... And if one is tossing 100e notes at Sharks now ( seems to be quite common now guys happily paying 100e from discussions I have had with others) why not try out Palace if the above pricing is accurate and from what I hear the LU appealing to the eye ( at least for an American)
Be interesting to see... 70 bucks for half hour service at Palace is a new one on me. It is more than the Artemis pricing of 60 bucks for half and half so to speak. That is with entry fee getting way beyond the honest man's daily wage. That is just not right.

Yeah, I am hearing more and more that the brand name Sharks are asking for the 100 buck notes to be on the payroll for half and half service. As noted before one need to keep to the regulars but they are also not liking the 100 buck note for the one hour service too. Really one needs to go on their quiet day to get the appreciated service. If not then you are just a number since there are 50 other pandas waiting around for a chew at her bag of bones.

My war chest each time I go has gotten bigger and bigger. It gets to the point that one must take some tutes off the payroll.

Especially with the markets going south in the last days it is just too much.

ExpatLover
02-07-18, 05:07
The city clubs of Palace and Mainhattan are indeed possibilities but there is the specter of CBJ. As we have discussed, one needs to find the cracks in the Romanian cartel to find the fawn that falters and allows the BBBJ for the sake of anonymity and receiving some dough to cover her expenses.

Take a gamble and see what comes up. The results may be more in our favor than the fixed odds machines.

70 bucks for half hour service at Palace is a new one on me. It is more than the Artemis pricing of 60 bucks for half and half so to speak. That is with entry fee getting way beyond the honest man's daily wage. That is just not right.

Yeah, I am hearing more and more that the brand name Sharks are asking for the 100 buck notes to be on the payroll for half and half service. As noted before one need to keep to the regulars but they are also not liking the 100 buck note for the one hour service too. Really one needs to go on their quiet day to get the appreciated service. If not then you are just a number since there are 50 other pandas waiting around for a chew at her bag of bones.

My war chest each time I go has gotten bigger and bigger. It gets to the point that one must take some tutes off the payroll.

Especially with the markets going south in the last days it is just too much.My solution is just not to session any girl on this days, I enjoy the sauna, and the food, I don't like to be treated like this by prostitutes who are mostly stupid and arrogant girls able to do nothing else in their life that to open the legs to every guy, On this board there is a trend to consider some of them like stars, stars of what? Will we be happy if our daughters will be a prostitutes? On the German forum there is not this trend to create the buzz and stars, let us continue going to clubs sessioning the girls without forgetting that they are only prostitutes but we all have to pay reasonable price vs service and not accepting what is going on in Shark or Oase in the recent months.

Vito Corleone
02-07-18, 12:05
I am alright with CBJ, I keep my risks to minimum.I agree! Safety first! Covered BJ & sex feels great!

Wanking
02-07-18, 12:06
Wanking,

As far as I know, the new condom laws do not apply to licking the fanny of a tute.

Go out and lick them smelly ass holes and putrid twats. I know you want to.Hehehe Thats the problem with FKKs, girls are always just too clean. I did have a nice smelly swinger woman in P3 swingers club recently tho. Smelly in both holes, very nice.

ExpatLover
02-07-18, 15:49
Hehehe Thats the problem with FKKs, girls are always just too clean. I did have a nice smelly swinger woman in P3 swingers club recently tho. Smelly in both holes, very nice.You are both real poets.

Member #4585
02-08-18, 21:25
Hehehe Thats the problem with FKKs, girls are always just too clean. I did have a nice smelly swinger woman in P3 swingers club recently tho. Smelly in both holes, very nice.Many girls are odor free to the point of being neutral. A cleaning regime that is sadly needful at FKK 40 in Dietzenbach. Too much is dammed up inside there if you catch my drift.

ExpatLover
02-08-18, 21:44
I agree! Safety first! Covered BJ & sex feels great!What is the risk with BBBJ? What is the risk when you lick a woman? For me at least close to 0 if your mouth and the mouth of the girl is healthy and she doesn't have her period.

Danny227
02-13-18, 20:34
Well now it is 70 euro for 30 min for BBBJ session or with some girl 100 euro for BBBJ and DFK included. Of course it is palace, so it is upsell club, one has to negotiate.OK, but it isn't the norm, it is the girls?

Mr Ho
02-14-18, 07:23
OK, but it isn't the norm, it is the girls?Yeah depend, but it is close to norms LOL.

Avignon27
02-16-18, 22:40
Is Roxanna present? Or a comparable entity with similarly good service?

ExpatLover
02-17-18, 04:08
OK, but it isn't the norm, it is the girls?If you look at the new law it is clearly stated that the girls have the right to practise their own price policy, the clubs can't force the girls to apply 50 euro for 30 minutes.

Vito Corleone
02-17-18, 04:33
Is Roxanna present? Or a comparable entity with similarly good service?She was there 2 weeks ago. Mentioned she planned to stay until Easter.

Der Auslander
02-17-18, 17:14
She was there 2 weeks ago. Mentioned she planned to stay until Easter.I'm not one for visiting FKK Palace. This the same Roxanna who used to frequent FKK Sharks?

Rogue Nation
02-17-18, 23:44
I'm not one for visiting FKK Palace. This the same Roxanna who used to frequent FKK Sharks?That's her.

Imthechamp
02-18-18, 00:07
Is Roxanna present? Or a comparable entity with similarly good service?Yes, she is there now.

Vito Corleone
02-18-18, 10:43
I'm not one for visiting FKK Palace. This the same Roxanna who used to frequent FKK Sharks?Same girl.

AntonB
02-20-18, 12:22
This was the first on the rodeo of FKK visits that we visited on a stop-over in Frankfurt, and it was in fact a somewhat disheartening experience compared to for example Mainhattan (2nd FKK visited). Palace is very big and slightly intimidating to scout around even though they had an impressive buffet dished up for clients which was included in the entry price.

Beautiful girls on the menu, but they approached very aggressively and sometime seemed to not accept a 'no interest' response. The budget was actually also limited to a few hundred EUR so could not taste the entire menu, but at least the Kino was very fun and unique experience compared to Moscow. Here there is mostly traditional ladies clubs.

PinballMachine
03-18-18, 17:17
Is the rate now 70 Euros for 30 min standard session?

What about the line up? Has it gotten better or worse the last couple of months?

ExpatLover
03-18-18, 22:23
Is the rate now 70 Euros for 30 min standard session?

What about the line up? Has it gotten better or worse the last couple of months?Forget this club advise you to just make a very big turn around it.