FKK Palace - Frankfurt [Archive] - Page 5

DeepVoid

03-30-06, 08:11

Been hitting Palace almost every three weeks as work runs me through Frankfurt. Before starting this report I had an especially fun time today. I previously posted that I would be in the club on Monday and anyone from this group who would be there to PM me. Well Philly Dog did and said to watch for the only man with the hat. I finished a session, went to shower and low and behold, a man in a hat. Yup it was Philly Dog. Good to see you man and glad you had a great vacation. To the other yanks who hung out that night. It was fun. OK back to the good stuff.

I got to the club at 5pm Monday. It was VERY quiet and was worried it would stay that way. The masses never showed up but enough girls arrived around 7pm to make the day worth while.

Anastasia – Again this girl is a black haired Russian and works till about 8pm. She feels more like a girlfriend than any girlfriend that I can remember. She is a bit thick around the middle which I usually don’t like but boy when she starts kissing and deep throat. She LOVES DATY.

Lucy from Turkey. She has an exotic look that hooks me. We had a mediocre session and when we got to the locker informed me that she wanted another 50Euro for going over 30 minutes. I had check the time before even starting to sit with her and it was exactly 30 minutes including a 10 minute wait for a room. For the first time ever I complained to management. They told her to let go of it, that I was right. She kept arguing with the manager and I told them that I would kick in another 20 so we could let it go. She still kept arguing with them and they told her to accept it or to leave the club. Gave her 20 but I heard later that she tried it with someone else. STAY AWAY!!!

Mary Magdlen – German. Yeah….that is what she called herself so I called her Virgin Mary. Bleach White Blond, average build. Very funny. It wasn’t the greatest session in the world but we laughed from start to finish. Even when she was in the middle of a session with someone in the Keno she would yell my name and I would yell back “Hey Virgin Mary”.

Czech Lina - I hadn’t gone with her in months but decided to try again. She is so exotic and sweet but I just don’t like how she squeezes her legs together around your head while DATY or try to keep you getting too deep. Interestingly she says she loves anal cause it is more intense. That was my last try with her.

Julia – Romania. I hadn't seen her before and she says she has only been in Frankfurt for a couple weeks. She has Big new artificial breasts that she won’t let you touch. Other than that she was great session. Nice BBBJ and got into it when it was my turn. Since it was my last session after a long day we went at it for quite a while. I really enjoyed her company and the session. She says she only works 1 – 2 days a week.

I will be back in about 3 weeks. Anyone who wants to share a coke, I am buying.

Ortos

03-30-06, 10:17

@ DeepVoid,

Thanks for that report. Seems like you hit on a reall winner with Anastasia, but your other choices fell short of the mark, right? Well it happens.

Just a bit of advice re this Turkish girl Lucy: First, you should know that as far as payment goes, the clock starts ticking when you cross the threshold of the zimmer (room), not when you wait for a room! Thus if you were in the room for 30min or less, you owe her not a cent more than 50E, unless you engaged in extras. You were absolutely correct, and did all of us a favour, when you brought your complaint to the front desk. However, why on earth would you offer this girl an extra twenty, when clearly she was trying to rip you off and when the Palace management was ruling against her and in your favour? Sounds to me that she is a second generation Turkish girl, which means she is probably more German in outlook than Turkish. Quite right to warn us off. But please, don't throw extra twenties at these rip-off artists, it just encourages them to keep at it. I am just speculating, but I wonder if she engaged in a bit of nationalistic profiling with you, seeing that you were a fairly soft "Yank" she knew to push the envelope a bit with you. I bit she would never have tried this or gone so far if you were speaking German...

Re Czech Lina: Alot of us know already to stay away from this girl. Alot of girls have a great look, but are bad, bad providers... You compare girls like that to your first choice of the day and you see what I mean, ja?

But thanks again for your really good report!

DeepVoid

03-30-06, 17:15

Thanks for the feedback Ortos. Even though I had full support of the manager I was getting tired of her and wanted to get back to the fun. It was "shut up" money. Won't do it again. You are right that it trains them badly. I think you are right about 2nd generation. I remember her saying that she was born in Germany.

I had the wrong girl pegged as Lina all this time.

Keep help coming everyone. It was actually quite rewarding when a couple ISG guys overheard Philly and I chatting outside the locker room. It became quite a little gathering. It is always nice to help new people and get support from others.

@ DeepVoid,

Thanks for that report. Seems like you hit on a reall winner with Anastasia, but your other choices fell short of the mark, right? Well it happens.

Just a bit of advice re this Turkish girl Lucy: First, you should know that as far as payment goes, the clock starts ticking when you cross the threshold of the zimmer (room), not when you wait for a room! Thus if you were in the room for 30min or less, you owe her not a cent more than 50E, unless you engaged in extras. You were absolutely correct, and did all of us a favour, when you brought your complaint to the front desk. However, why on earth would you offer this girl an extra twenty, when clearly she was trying to rip you off and when the Palace management was ruling against her and in your favour? Sounds to me that she is a second generation Turkish girl, which means she is probably more German in outlook than Turkish. Quite right to warn us off. But please, don't throw extra twenties at these rip-off artists, it just encourages them to keep at it. I am just speculating, but I wonder if she engaged in a bit of nationalistic profiling with you, seeing that you were a fairly soft "Yank" she knew to push the envelope a bit with you. I bit she would never have tried this or gone so far if you were speaking German...

Re Czech Lina: Alot of us know already to stay away from this girl. Alot of girls have a great look, but are bad, bad providers... You compare girls like that to your first choice of the day and you see what I mean, ja?

But thanks again for your really good report!

Everhard

03-30-06, 19:16

Lucy from Turkey. She has an exotic look that hooks me.
[...]
STAY AWAY!!!Me too have a story about Turkish Lucy.

Once I was approach by two girls offering a threesome. One was Lucy, and the other was a Croatian girl whose name I’ve forgotten. She is not very attractive. I doubt that I would have fucked her, even for free if been given the offer. It was the Croatian girl that was doing the hard sell. By the way, she had even bitchier attitude than Croatian Sonya. What’s the matter with these Croatians??? Anyway, I thought a threesome would be exciting. And when they said they liked to lick each other, my heart melted and my cock hardened. So off we went. They licked me and each other, and I fucked them both. It wasn’t a bad experience. The shock came afterwards. They wanted double rate, due to extras. Apparently licking each other was considered extra. I had to ask “management” in the shape of the reception lady, the 50 something redhead, and she confirmed that this was extra. To sum it up: I was screwed;-) Well basically I only have myself to blame. From now on I will be sure to negotiate in advance. As if I was window shopping in Amsterdam… Although I must say, I am almost always given great service from ex-Soviet girls without any negotiation.

The next time in Palace I saw Lucy again. Seeing her soft skin and thinking about her tight pussy made me choose her again. Almost. Reading DeepVoids report now, I’m glad I resisted the urge.

Akibono

03-30-06, 21:44

I got the chance to visit Palace twice last week. Business has definitely changed. It has become the land of blondes and silicon. I was amazed at the number of enhansed girls. Why does it matter? I find most girls that go through the procedure have a different attitude and are much more professional. You are much likely not to get a gfe from these girls. Business is generally slow and it shows up in the level of service. Girls are much more likely to short change you in time because they have to get back to the action asap. Here's a list of providers an my experience.

Sandra? from CZECh. Tall, blonde with very noticable implant scars. If you look closely you can see she has had a baby (very loose P), but her face is attractive. Basicaly, a shortend session. What I really did not like was this constant bucking and pushing your hips to get you to come sooner. It is really a distraction and shows the girl really does not want to be there. Would not recommed.

Sandi from giessen. Tall brunette with pretty face and body. Claims she works in a hotel and only comes to Palace one day a week. I remembered that I saw her before, but she had obviously forgotten about me. Acceptable session, but she was really manipulative. I initially asked for an hour because she seemed nice. After about 20 minutes she kept asking to leave. So, I decided to leave and give her 50. She then insisted on another 50 because she claimed it was 40 minutes!! First, it was at most 30 minutes if you count the time on the couch. Second, 40 minutes is not the same if you asked for an hour and she agreed. I held my ground, but in the interest of avoiding an incident, gave her 20 more even though she offered 25. what make the session even more weird was the fact that she asked where I was staying and if I had a car. She and two of her girl friends wanted me to drive to a club after work. I guess this is to avoid staying overnight at Palace and the expense. I smelled trouble and declined. At best, I would be paying for a bunch of drinks. At worst, something might happen and I would be in big trouble.

You can definitely tell that business is slow. There was hardly any wait for a room on most nights. Part of this is because of the low number of men, but you could also tell that the girls were cutting the sessions short. On one night it was slow until about 1 am. Then the club exploded into orgasm. It seemed every one wanted sex at once. There was a wait for the rooms, but you could see the girls go in and out very quickly. So much so that there was hardly a wait. In fact, Tina (the girls works the room with her friend offering two girls) was able to do 3 sessions in just over 40 minutes!!

In conclusion, the atmosphere that made FKKs special has largely disappeared. You are much more likely to get a RLD experience today. Sigh! I long for the days of Atlantis where the FKK experience was the best.

Catalyst

03-31-06, 03:27

Everhard,

Technically you didn't get screwed. Lesbian action is normally an extra 50 for each girl.

But the girls are supposed to tell you when you are increasing your bill. Sometimes the management will stick up for you weren't told that you were spending more. I think this is more likely to work if you go longer than 30 minutes and she doesn't tell you that you are buying an extra half hour until it is too late. If you request extra services they can say that you should have expected it to cost more. If the girls just went ahead and did it without asking you would be in a much better position to complain and should have mentioned this. Did they ever specifically ask "so do you want us to lick each other?" My guess from the way you tell the story is that they thought it was likely that you didn't know it was extra and they didn't care; they thought they could make you pay anyway.

To Deepvoid and Akibono,

I totally agree with Ortos about encouraging the ripoff artists. You aren't just hurting yourself, you are hurting all the other guys and also all the other girls who lose customers when people stop coming to their club because that's where the ripoff artists thrive.

Dollars

03-31-06, 05:23

Hi Dollars.

I'm heading for Palace this weekend. You gave a quite positive note about this Romanian girl called Sasha. Do you mind dropping a more detailed description to help me find her there in the dark.

Thanks
Polar

She's like the ring leader (sort of) of the Romanian girls. She's about 5'3" black hair and has a small to med size breast. Ask any girl who is Romanian (they hang out in packs) and she will direct you to her.

Give her a hint that I recommended her to you. Tell her it's the black American who bought a bottle of Moet that she drank with me (she and I literally drank the whole bottle) and I said she kept complaining about her roommate who also works in Palace. She will remember. Also tell her that while we drank the "Turkish girl" who I thought was half Korean/half Spanish was belly dancing behind us on stage by the bar opposite the pool!

Ps: I told her we all report back to say who gives the best service. Tell her I said she was good in bed. Maybe this will buy an additional GFE. LOL!

Akibono

03-31-06, 06:53

It's not a matter of encouraging a ripoff artist. I just did not want to get into a fight that day. I have been down that route and management is not always so helpful. It is just one of the differences between now and the "old" days. Girls then seemed more likely to think of you as a long term prospect. I remember the old days where there was some couch action before the session and then a girl would spend some time with you after the session if it was not so busy. Then you would have another session later. Those days are long gone. Now its "have you come yet" and it's off to the next customer asap. Like I said, a full 30 minute session is now a rarity.

Perhaps it is because the girls are earning less or expect to earn more. I guess when FKKs first opened up the girls earned an obscene amount of money because it was a different experience. Now it is not so good. I am not sure why.

Ffmbud

03-31-06, 08:21

I visited the Palace for the first time and found it to be like a harem that I've always imagined in my mind. It was a Monday night and the ratio of men to girls was about equal, (a lot of Japanese seemed to be there) but I enjoyed the very low pressure, relaxing atmosphere. After scouting around for 30 minutes or so, I went for a Polish babe, who was great. For round two went for a Romanian girl, Mika. She was good too but demanded that the session was 40 mins on her watch instead of 30, which I blew her off and told her to get her watch fixed with the money. Finally, there was an amazing Czech babe, with DD tits about 5'10" named Linda making the rounds. She didn't show up until after midnight but Wow! We chatted a bit but I was spent and figured I'll leave it to the next time so I have something to look forward to.

Cachorro

03-31-06, 11:59

I had an unwelcome experience at Oase that was similiar to your stories. Was in the room for what seemed like half an hour. It might have been 35 minutes. I was quite respectful of her time on the couch before the session. Only chatted for a couple of minutes before I decided to take her to the room. I had been with her a couple of years previously and remembered that she gave me a good session the previous time and no problems.

Anyway, at the end she said it was more than half an hour and I needed to pay 100 euro. I said that she never mentioned we were going past the half hour, which I wouldn't have agreed to.

I offered to pay 50 euros plus half the extra 50 (since we had only been in the room a few minutes more than the half hour, if at all). But she insisted that I pay the whole amount. In the end I paid, because by the letter of the law that was what I owed. However it was shit trick to pull on her part. The girl is Emmanuelle, skinny black girl from France.

Now after going through that, I understand the golden rule is to tell the girl before you begin the session that you only want half an hour. And it's worth your while to wear a watch -- then they are less likely to try and scam you over session times.

This only happened once in about 12 sessions that week. In fact that was the first time it ever happened to me. But a couple of girls at Oase mentioned that it was up to me to say upfront that I only wanted a half hour.

EFrog

03-31-06, 18:38

I had an unwelcome experience at Oase that was similiar to your stories. Was in the room for what seemed like half an hour. It might have been 35 minutes.

We have had so much of these kind of comments.
My opinion will may be against the number...
But : let us make it short : you agree that you were over 30 minutes in the room, what is the deal, and she told you you were over.
Period she is right and you agree here that it was 35 minutes.
So what is the issue.
Are you thinking this is a bargaining business or department store where you get 5 minutes more for free ?
I have been in this club since it was Paradise... so long time experience.
It has always been fair.
I really get tired of cheap guys who are complaining over and over again.
It is up to you to watch your time and if you cross the line, you pay.
When you buy Wlan time at your hotel do you also ask the 10 minutes over the 2 hours you bought are for free ?
FKK is already the best money/quality value you get.
Don't be ridiculous : you think, it is up to the girl to tell you about "it is now 30 minutes".... and why not 5 minutes in advance not to be caught by time in the middle of action...
You are responsible to watch what you buy, if you really only think about fun in term of bargaining...
The same guys would complain if the girl tells about 'it is time" : bla bla bla she is watching time, it is a scandal.
Sorry but tired of cheap guys always complaining....

Breadman

03-31-06, 21:17

Sorry but tired of cheap guys always complaining....
I offered to pay 50 euros plus half the extra 50 (since we had only been in the room a few minutes more than the half hour, if at all). Cheap guys wouldnt offer to pay half the 50...they would refuse to pay the extra 50. Someone not looking for an argument but also not wanting to get ripped off would suggest the 25 split. The watch suggestion was a good point.

What if you had a watch alarm and set it to go off at 25 minutes...would that offend or upset the girl?

EFrog

03-31-06, 22:58

Cheap guys wouldnt offer to pay half the 50...they would refuse to pay the extra 50. Someone not looking for an argument but also not wanting to get ripped off would suggest the 25 split. The watch suggestion was a good point.

What if you had a watch alarm and set it to go off at 25 minutes...would that offend or upset the girl?

OK not cheap, half cheap... ;-)
Seriously the question is not on this.
Having been over 10 years visiting FKK places in Germany, included the famous Atlantis we all regreat,... all I can say is that this is very fair system.
I agree to speak about rip off if a girl try to overcharge official price or if she doesn't give the service or try to charge additional for what is normally part of standard FKK package. This is rip off.
But telling about rip off when the guy gets asked for the additional when he is knowingly taking advantage of overtime... to me it is nonsense and sorry to say ... cheap behavior.
You know FKK service.... what do you get in the US for 50 ? and even for 105 if you include club entrance fee ?
So this and all similar complains are just ridiculous.
If you really come to have fun, I feel sorry if you are to clockwatch for not spending 1 minutes or 5 or 10 and need to pay for the time you got service.
The rules are now : 30 mn so, 60 mn so and so...
Do you want also proportional refund if you are coming in less than 30 minutes ?
I might be old fashioned but to me FKK is fun, period.

OK for fighting rip off but not to be ridiculous especially when he also told he got excellent service. In the US, the tip you leave for good service is more than what he is complaining for normal additional time, but maybe he is tipping with a nickel when he gets good service...

Ortos

03-31-06, 23:23

I think eFrog is making several very valid points. The rules and parameters of FKK play are clear. If you don't know them, then you should make some effort to find them out. If you do know them, and understand them, then you should be ready to play by them. And that goes for both the man and the woman.

There are some basic ground rules, like:

--on the couch, if the girl gets your cock in her mouth, you are more or less session comitted.

--the time starts, or should start, when you cross into the room, unless you take excessive advantage over the "free" couch time.

--if you go over 30 minutes, you enter another (50E) session. Just like in NFL football: when one quarter ends, another begins. You pay for each 30-minute unit: 50E.

As for the issue: "Yeah, but I only stayed 5 minutes into the next session unit! Why do I have to pay the full 50E?

Now you don't walk into restaruant, order an expensive piece of meat, like a Fillet Mingion or a Rack of Lamb, take one bite out of it and then say: Very good, but I'm finished. I've only consumed a small segment of this dish, so just bill me for what I've eaten.

If you are good about your selection to begin with and develop some kind of chemistry with the girl BEFORE you enter the room --which is what playing the FKK game is all about, btw-- then the extra couple of minutes over the 30-minute mark won't become an issue in the first place...

No, I would have to side strongly with eFrog and compliment him on his clear understanding of what the "FKK reality is.

Time management is the responsibility of we consumers...

Ortos

Wanking

04-01-06, 00:24

I think you should expect that you might run into money trouble with one in every 10 FKK girls.

I had some hassles with a couple of girls in the past. One girl tried to charge me extra for licking her arsehole of all things. So I gave her €25 extra, haggled down from €50. And another girl tried to hit me up for all the time we spent on the couch so I just gave her the extra €50.

The way I look at it, If I have to pay one in 10 girls a bit extra, its not the end of the world.

Akibono

04-01-06, 04:24

I don't consider a customer who drags out time on the couch, flirts with most of the girls and then takes as much time in the room as he can get away with as being fair. After all, a girl has to make a reasonable amount of money. So, if you had a good time, don't abuse the situation.

On the other hand, I don't think it is fair for a girl to intentionally let a session go slightly over 30 minutes and charge for another session. If she really wants to charge an hour, she should give you at least 15 minutes extra. Too often a session ends after 15 minutes or 35 minutes. I am not against a girl charging more, in fact, I think the rates should be 60E per 30 minutes. But there must be value. Lately, I have been having a difficult time finding a girl that I would like to spend an hour with.

Ortos

04-01-06, 10:10

Cachorro,

"In the end the point of my post was to show why it's a good idea for mongers to keep track of session times and not rely on the girl to do so. Which seems to be the consensus here, anyway."

Yes this is the essential point really! That is why it is incumbant on us, the male customer, to keep track of the time or to understand that when we cross into another 30 min session, we are technically responsible for another 50E. So to use your bottle analogy: If you drink your first bottle and want another drink of the same juice, we must understand that we will be charged for another full bottle, even though we may only drink another glass or two. The rules of the game are that it is not up to the girl to necessarily tell us. (However if you have a good chemistry or are a repeat visitor with the girl or if you specifically tell her "Let me know when we get to the 20min mark into the session so I can finish up on time..." etc...then these problems will not be issues.)

Why should an average FKK girl necessarily help the obviously inexperienced "tourist monger" keep track of his time during a session? From her point of view: Bad clock management on the part of the man is just his own sloppy way of playing the game.

In the end, you should wear a watch (just like you should wear a tooth guard in NFL football) to protect yourself against unscrupulous girls who try to bend the time to their advantage. If a man knows how to play the game, there should never be any ambiguity when it comes to the time. This "could have been 35 minutues or it could have been 25 minutes" scenario should never exist! If for some reason you don't wear a watch, then simply establish with the girl exactly what time it is when you first enter the room. I always do this, esp when I don't know the girl so well, as a matter of course: I enter the room with the girl, take off my towel and key strap, and my watch. I make a grand gesture of looking at my watch and announcing: Es ist 22.20 jetst (It is now 10.20)." Then there is never an issue as to how much time there is/was/should be... Got it!

We all know that, whether we like it or not, we give off certain signals to the girls in our behaviour and interaction with her pre-session. Alot of these girls are there every day for many hours. We are in their element. They learn how to categorise the men, just as some of us guys who have been in the FKK game for a while learn how to categorise the girls. I mean, I can often get a feeling for what kind of girl and attitude a given gorgeous body will give me just from observing and flirting with a girl. So the reverse is very true too. I am not always 100% correct in these assessments, but as I get older, wiser and more experienced my judgements seem to serve me well.

If you don't speak German, are clearly a foreigner or tourist, you are going to get one kind of attitude from alot of girls, until you prove yourself more FKK street wise.

If it is just a few minutes over, then charging that extra 50E is really up to the girl. Personally I try to have GFE sessions whenever possible --that's another subject-- so it has happened that you might emerge from the room a couple of minutes after the 30min or 60min mark and the girl declines to charge the extra 50E. But if you have chosen the type of girl that unfortunately abounds at some of these clubs and, on top of that, have given off signals that you are a foreign tourist and/or are rather inexperienced in FKKing, then be prepared to be charged extra if you fall into the trap. Wearing a watch is one sign that you are NOT inexperienced. If you know the traps then you will be able to avoid them.

Welcome to FKKing: It's a sport/hobby that requires practise and experience. Just like Poker, you will not win many pots if you just rely on sheer luck!

My two cents,

Ortos

Lord Byron

04-01-06, 12:42

In the end, you should wear a watch (just like you should wear a tooth guard in NFL football) to protect yourself against unscrupulous girls who try to bend the time to their advantage. If a man knows how to play the game, there should never be any ambiguity when it comes to the time. This "could have been 35 minutues or it could have been 25 minutes" scenario should never exist! If for some reason you don't wear a watch, then simply establish with the girl exactly what time it is when you first enter the room. I always do this, esp when I don't know the girl so well, as a matter of course: I enter the room with the girl, take off my towel and key strap, and my watch. I make a grand gesture of looking at my watch and announcing: Es ist 22.20 jetst (It is now 10.20)." Then there is never an issue as to how much time there is/was/should be... Got it!Ortos,

Thank you for your insightful comments. However, not yet having visited an FKK, I have a stupid question: are there not wall clocks in the rooms?

Gyg66

04-01-06, 14:22

Been there lately; I was first approched by Eva from Grece in the cinema. She's about 170 cm tall, a little bit meaty, 22 y. o., lightblonde shoulder lenght hairs, big tits. Good fuck but nothing special.
Then I meet Sara from Koeln, very beautiful, tall, brown-blonde long curly hairs, young (about 20 y.o.), a tattoo on the right ankle (a name written in a vertical mode). Deep kissing, CG, reverse CG, doggie, mish, 40 minutes of hard fucking with her moaning a lot. I recommend her definitely. Also a nice preson, easy to speak with, fluent english.
Some weeks ago I went with Adriana / Tiffany from Slovak Rep., beautiful sexy body, not tall, blonde, a lot of mascara, a little pro attitude but worth a try.
Other girls I had consider are:
Silvia, tall blond with siliconed tits from Poland with a ring tatto around her right arm;
Victoria, fantastic body about 170 cm tall, light blond hairs short to the shoulders, light skin from east europe (she were speaking russian with a guy in the kino).
Bye for now.

Shark16

04-01-06, 22:01

I met Adriana / Tiffany at Palace a couple of months ago, although I thought she was Czech. She was pretty new at Palace then I think. Eye candy and all smiles outside the room, too rushed and mechanical inside. Neutral / negative recommendation from me (bring a watch).

EFrog

04-01-06, 23:45

eFrog, I find your comments insulting, and lacking in class.
I would say you have not properly understood what I wrote. OK, it's clear English is not your first language, so your reading comprehension is probably not as good as a native speaker. But then why are you so quick to attack?

Yes I feel sorry, English is not my native language, true, only one among the five foreign idiomatic communication tools that I thought I was using, speaking and writing quite fluently… but you underline right my limits...
Sorry to be undereducated...

But what is the point here…
Maybe because I am also reading and understanding Latin and know that “Forum” is the place to exchange and not to take comments as granted truth. I may lack of class but not of culture …

Now I don’t want to argue forever.

What is really cheap is :
You wrote : “It might have been 35 minutes. (….) I had been with her a couple of years previously and remembered that she gave me a good session the previous time and no problems.
(…)In the end I paid, because by the letter of the law that was what I owed. However it was shit trick to pull on her part. The girl is Emmanuelle, skinny black girl from France.”

In your style, “it might have been 35 ” is certainly 35+, if you were sure about less, it would have been : “ not even 30 minutes”.

What really is pissing here and what justify my comment “cheap” guy is that you just want to ruin the girl’s business: giving her name and description, so that all mongers here can avoid her… despite good service. (your own words)

It’s what you did want… and why ?

This girl, as you said, was known from you : “couple of years previously” “good session”, but this time, you feel angry because she is asking her due : as Otros says, “according the rules”, and you agree : it was overtime price for real overtime…
This of course added to the fact that you had to pay as you reasonably couldn’t complain to management, makes you crazy.
So again I stay behind my words: “cheap” reaction : you lost at Palace but you want your little “cheap” private revenge here… what is not the Forum purpose.

I have nothing to add…
and sorry for my poor English explaining the trap.

That’s why I did react with first post and, fair to you, I wasn’t underlining this until you started arguing.

To finish on your last point, time is our responsibility to check.
Girls are providing, period.

Are you so naïve to think that they should tell “Oh stop now, it is time 29’59” or you will have to pay for more”.
Down to earth, man…

Sorry again, hope everybody understood my poor broken non native English...
but here you won't get a lot if you think non native shouldn't communicate...

Catalyst

04-02-06, 06:56

The main thing you are paying for is to have sex with the girl. That costs 50 euros. No one is going to pay 50 euros for 5 or 10 minutes of chatting with a girl unless they are tricked into doing so. That's what we all laugh at people who go to ripoff champagne bars in red light districts for doing.

Some people take a long time for sex, sometimes by choice. If you need more than 30 minutes for sex you should pay the extra 50. That is different from chatting.

Some girls like to chat after the session. If the girl wants to chat you should not have to choose between 1 - setting yourself up for an extra 50 euro charge by a mercenary girl or 2 - acting suspicious and saying things like "I only want 30 minutes" or "how long have we been in the room" which spoil the atmosphere with nice girls, who are the vast majority. If she wants to charge you 50 euros for talking she should have to make damned sure you understand and agree to this.

If you complain to management there is a good chance that they will stick up for you. Even if they make you pay the extra money that doesn't mean that they have completely sided with the girl. They might warn her not to let it happen again or if you are not the first to complain they might take some action. And it doesn't cost extra to complain. If you don't complain then you encourage her to keep doing what she is doing. And the other girls who are doing the same work as these bad girls and not getting 50 euro bonuses will start to wonder why they aren't pulling the same tricks.

Going to management doesn't have to be a major confrontation. You can tell the girl that you have a different view about the rules and you are not sure that you are right, so why don't we check with management. It doesn't have to be absolutely refusing to pay the extra money. At the desk you can just say that you are being charged an extra 50 that you didn't expect, if you really owe it you are of course happy to pay, but you would like to know what the rules are so you know what you are agreeing to next time.

Ortos

04-02-06, 09:23

Amphibians round the world, unite!

Since we seem to be putting the discussion below to bed, just wanted to sing a parting lullaby:

Although I may be alone in this, I find discussions about such issues rather constructive and, indeed, necessary from time to time.

I also would like to openly compliment eFrog, not only on the accuracy and validity of his points, but also on his very, very good command of the English language. I find any discussion attacking His English-writing skills as unnecessary and rather childish. I think it's great this forum has different accents in it and that there is an international element with contributions from people of diffent cultural and linguistic backgrounds. That is what Fora are all about...How many of us could write posts as good as eFrog's in another language?

I don't think he was being so insulting to Cachorro, just very blunt and to the point.

If there is any insulting writing here it is something like this:

"I'm speculating it's because either

a) you are French and the girl is French and I'm anglophone. So your prejudices are not letting you see the facts..."

That is a complete slur against the French, just like those Republican jerks who refused to eat French Fries but called them "Freedom Fries..." etc, simply because the French didn't agree with them and thought they were wrong, and said so in blunt language.

So now that we have all agreed to put this matter to rest, let's also agree to mutual respect for all contributors and dedicate ourselves to detailed reports.

With that last point in mind, Cacherro should be given strong compliments and commendations because he bothered to post his experiences and point of view in a detailed and articulate manner. Bravo Caherro. Bravo eFrog, Bravo to all!

Now let's get back to reports about the club and the girls, which are experiencing a few problems at the moment. I hope to travel soon to the area to make my own assessments on the state of affairs at Palace and the other clubs...I will not hold back my views and comments from this and other fora...

Ortos

Everhard

04-02-06, 10:47

Whitey2

04-02-06, 15:38

e-Frog:

If you are fluent in Latin, look up argumentum ad hominem.

It generally isn't allowed in forum discussions. To call someone a name or try to label them in some category, especially without knowing diddly-squat about the person you are addressing, is just not an appropriate thing to do. You invited an argument, and you know it.

Addendum:
And now you see the results.

DirkDingy

04-02-06, 16:16

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

Ed Setra

04-02-06, 22:33

Reply to Gyg66

Delayed Reply.

When I chatted to her I thought Tiffany looked like Alison Angel, albeit with smaller endowments? Maybe it was my fantasy after a long day (no alcohol involved), and one mediocre South American adventure with Gabrielle, but I thought she was a dead ringer on March 8th. I agree with your assessment of performance, though.

G

Rogers

04-03-06, 03:25

I haven't read the dispute that's been going on. Please get back to dishing out reports. It's fcking annoying to have to try and filter through that bllshit.

1. Katrina: Blond, medium height and build, implants, russian and late twenties. She is smokin hot. I don't know why there are no reports on this girl. Session was not rushed and her pussy felt great doggie.

2. Lena: Famous czech girl - no desc necessary. Only thing worth note is she let me cum on her face. She likes extras because of the extra cash.

3. Blond Romanian girl - slender semi voluptous body. From a distance looked hot but close up her face was a bit like a mans. Sex wasn't that great. Obviously a forgetable experience.

Patricklim1234

04-03-06, 18:15

Viagrant

04-04-06, 03:24

My question then is, to avoid any conflict on whether it was 30mins or 31mins, prior to leaving the room, ask her whether she is charging for 30mins or 60mins. If it was 60mins and you leave in 31mins, drag her back to the bed for another shot. Is this "normal"/"legal"?

I guess you could try it, but if it is a busy night, there is no guarantee a room would be available right away.

As others said, wear a watch to avoid this problem. On the other hand, the girls with integrity would never do this. Just as it is the girl's responsibility to make sure the guy understands about the cost of "extras", it should be her responsibility to tell the guy "our 30 minutes are just about finished, do you want to continue for another 30 minutes?"

EFrog

04-04-06, 03:25

Just a question for the more experienced people. My understanding is that 50 euros buy you 30mins of her time. If I spent 50 euros on a girl and we went into a room doing nothing except chitchatting, that would be well within the 'rules'.

My question then is, to avoid any conflict on whether it was 30mins or 31mins, prior to leaving the room, ask her whether she is charging for 30mins or 60mins. If it was 60mins and you leave in 31mins, drag her back to the bed for another shot. Is this "normal"/"legal"?

Thanks for the reply.

To avoid conflict...

I like Ortos image : when you open a second bottle of wine because you want one more glass, you pay for it and on your point, then it is better to drink the second bottle you bought and will pay.
By the way it is not a matter of seconds or even a minute.
We were talking about taking advantage and refusing the idea to pay for it.
Someone here said one out of ten girls is a problem.
I would add same for one customer out of ... who knows ;-)
Additional when you are friendly to the girl she is also friendly to you...
They live better with repeat customers and they know reputation is gold.
Marketing is everywhere even at FKK

Dedalus

04-04-06, 08:35

1. Katrina: Blond, medium height and build, implants, russian and late twenties. She is smokin hot. I don't know why there are no reports on this girl. Session was not rushed and her pussy felt great doggie.

If you mean hot and sexy Kathin with the longs legs and the big eyes, then I have reported on her in the past.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=414183&highlight=Kathrin#post414183

If we are talking about the same girl then those are not implants.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Borat69

04-04-06, 19:34

Hey guys,

We just bought flights to be in Frankfurt at the end of the month, and plan to be in Palace most of the time! It'll just be for a weekend so just a couple of days. Hopefully it'll be good. Just wondering where would you suggest to stay? Last time we stayed in some hostel downtown but I think we'll go with the 4* plus experience this time. I've read about Ibis in Breitenbachstrasse and Flemings the new place which seems to be around 150 euros for 2 nights which isn't bad? I don't know the area too well and usually we take a cab but if we can save that by staying near, why not. We aren't going to be exploring the city again so just something convenient from the airport to Palace and in terms of a very comfortable stay at a good budget, apartment, B&B or whatever.

Also any up and coming clubs we shoudl check out? We were going to spend both days at Palace (we only have 2 days) but if there are other recommendations we'll definitely drop by.. :)

Breadman

04-04-06, 20:59

My question then is, to avoid any conflict on whether it was 30mins or 31mins, prior to leaving the room, ask her whether she is charging for 30mins or 60mins. If it was 60mins and you leave in 31mins, drag her back to the bed for another shot. Is this "normal"/"legal"?

Thanks for the reply.I'd have to guess if you've left the room its already too late. If your still in the room and its going on 32 minutes and she says you went over the 30 minutes...then tell her you have another 28 minutes coming. If she's in rip-off mode she might try to argue about going for another 28 minutes, if that's the case you'd have to go to the management and inform them you wanted a full hour.

Your already 'in' the room...so there is no 'waiting for a room to open' question.

Rogers

04-04-06, 23:17

No, Katrina is pretty voluptous and has some tatoos. Her eyes are asian like not big and wide.

Patricklim1234

04-05-06, 01:27

I'd have to guess if you've left the room its already too late. If your still in the room and its going on 32 minutes and she says you went over the 30 minutes...then tell her you have another 28 minutes coming. If she's in rip-off mode she might try to argue about going for another 28 minutes, if that's the case you'd have to go to the management and inform them you wanted a full hour.

Your already 'in' the room...so there is no 'waiting for a room to open' question.I don't know if it is the "FKK" way to view it, but it seems like the "escort" way to view it. If she is gonna charge me 60mins and leaves the room in 31 mins, you can be sure I'll demand she stay in the room for the other 29 mins. Even if it means the two of us just sitting there looking at each other. I don't see why I should let her out of the room to hook another 15min deal and get 100 euros total for the 2nd half hour.

And yes, I was talking about already being in the room, so there's no question on room availability.

Akibono

04-05-06, 02:55

Breadman

04-05-06, 14:53

Interesting idea. The next time a girl tries to cut a session short have her stay for the full 30 minutes even if she justs sits and pouts! Somehow, I don't think that will work out!Is there a rule saying only one SOG, even for multiple half hour bookings? If there is a one 'pop' rule than i guess your screwed. If your allowed another shot and can get it up right quickly after she announces the extra half hour then it should be allowable for more FS.

But we all know in the real World, I mean Palace, its all up to the girl.

Patricklim1234

04-05-06, 23:48

Is there a rule saying only one SOG, even for multiple half hour bookings? If there is a one 'pop' rule than i guess your screwed. If your allowed another shot and can get it up right quickly after she announces the extra half hour then it should be allowable for more FS.

But we all know in the real World, I mean Palace, its all up to the girl.Good question. If you check out the following post of the list of fkks, they are categorised by "time". Unless of course, it is a "30min or one shot, whichever comes first".

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=413495&postcount=1185

Eithercase I'll probably be heading down in 2-3 weeks time, will post my reports after.

EFrog

04-06-06, 00:30

Hey guys,

I've read about Ibis in Breitenbachstrasse and Flemings the new place which seems to be around 150 euros for 2 nights which isn't bad? (... )We aren't going to be exploring the city again so just something convenient from the airport to Palace and in terms of a very comfortable stay at a good budget, apartment, B&B or whatever.

If you plan to save on cab costs, IBIS can't be beaten : it is walking distance : less than 3 minutes through the office building area : 1/4 mile max.
With all your savings on cab, you can even have great italian food at Restaurant Topo Gigio about 5 minutes cab drive from IBIS, half the way to the Marriot, on the left side of the street, neon light sign blue.
Maybe the best italian food in FRA @ decent price.

Viagrant

04-06-06, 04:54

Is there a rule saying only one SOG, even for multiple half hour bookings? If there is a one 'pop' rule than i guess your screwed. If your allowed another shot and can get it up right quickly after she announces the extra half hour then it should be allowable for more FS.

But we all know in the real World, I mean Palace, its all up to the girl.

In my experience at FKKs, you pay for the time. So, if you come in 5 minutes, the girl should let you continue and go for a second round within the 30 minutes. However, in my experience, if you come after, say, 20 minutes, she is going to start wrapping things up, and will either chat for the remainder, or some girls will just start finishing up and ushering you out, even 5-10 minutes early. In the latter case, it is up to you to say something if you know you have time remaining.

Stinky Pete

04-07-06, 01:19

I have had only a few occasions out of many, many when the woman tried to usher me out after I had orgasmed but before the 30 minutes was up. The last time a woman tried to do that, I just stayed in the bed and I gave no signs that I was going to follow her through the door that instant. ("You can leave the room if you want, but I'm staying right here").

Of course then she had to stick around; or else risk losing me in the crowd and having me slip out of the club without paying her. If she left the room, she would still have to devote time to waiting for me to come out and pay her at my leisure.

Naturally, she stayed in the room with me.

If nothing else, I was able to spend the time admiring her appearance.

Needless to say, I never again asked her for any service.

Mahaba

04-08-06, 00:24

I was with a Thai girl on Atlantis once who pointed out that I still had time left and offered a great massage, which I accepted.

I've been advised on many occasions to negotiate with the girl before going to the room regarding services to be rendered. I think the massage option is a good idea, since after I pop, I don't really want to hang around and talk about the weather.

Mahaba

04-08-06, 00:29

Is anyone aware of a massage table at Palace FKK, with a hole to allow a girl to give a customer a BBBJ while he is getting a massage?

Someone mentioned this some time ago, but I could never confirm it.

Details please.

FKKguide

04-08-06, 13:09

I was with a Thai girl on Atlantis once who pointed out that I still had time left and offered a great massage, which I accepted.This is a great Thai tradition: massage before and after. Then roll over and sleep off the melatonin rush.

Another Asian luxury: a hot, wet cotton towel to clean you up. No scratchy paper napkin for them.

Wanking

04-08-06, 13:41

Slightly off topic but :

My new blog (http://my*************.com/) that I only started about 2 weeks ago is already showing up 2nd and 3rd postion in Google for the search term : Fkk Palace

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=fkk+palace&btnG=Google+Search

Ok it might change soon, such is the fickle nature of the search engines.

U Turner

04-09-06, 00:44

Can any one give a brief comparison of Oase and Palace?

Which one has more or better girls?

Which one has better facilities?

U Turner

Shark16

04-09-06, 10:38

Can any one give a brief comparison of Oase and Palace?

Which one has more or better girls?

Which one has better facilities?You will probably get various opinions from members of this board. Also, it is difficult to be accurate, as opinions are often coloured by personal taste, preference and experience, and the line-up of girls changes often. Anyways, here are my two cents (based on four visits in 2006):

In short: Both places are GREAT to visit.

The GIRLS: The line-up changes from day to day, from hour to hour so to speak, so it's impossible to say. It's a hit and miss. Fewer girls in daytime (10- 20), but also more relaxed. More girls in the evening (30- 50, and even up to 90 in the weekends), with a buzz. As a whole, the quantity and quality of girls in Palace and Oase have been pretty much the same this year IMHO (i.e. excellent - with great variations in types and nationalities).

More essential than number of girls is the girls/guys ratio. Oase and Palace may at certain times be slow (few men), which tend to turn the girls unhappy and sessions mediocre. On the other hand, Palace tend to be too crowded at times (in particular at Messe times and weekends), with the risk of rushed and/or mechanical sessions (even rip-offs, see other reports on this thread). Do not underestimate timing.

There is also a tendency that Palace attracts a businessman/tourist crowd, which encourages girls to process guys more, while Oase girls more rely on repeat customers (i.e. provide better service). Still I am usually able to get excellent service both places: My "success rate" is 70- 80% with the Palace girls, and 90- 95% with the Oase girls (20% will be rockshaking ...). Most importantly, use your own instincts and chemistry when picking a girl.

The facilities: Less important IMHO, but here we go:
- Palace has a theme of a ... palace (Arabian style), while Oase's is more of ancient Rome. Both great, and a little worn out at a closer look (though some improvements have been made both places lately).
- Both places provide good meeting areas, sex kinos and private rooms.
- Oase has a nice relaxing area that show sports on a huge TV screen (which is nice in between sessions).
- Palace has a nice Hamam area.
- Oase has outdoor facilities.
- The shower facilites at Oase have been criticized (cold water at night/odor).
- Palace is within city limits (10 mnts taxi drive), while Oase is just outside (20- 30 mnts with taxi).

In short, do not hesitate. Go and have some FUN!

Carl Spackler

04-10-06, 21:03

Does anyone have info on a women called Katharina at Palace? She's half German and Korean.

Thanks

Euro100

04-11-06, 08:48

Went to Palace last Wednesday, part of my big-3 2006 comparison drive.

First off, a bit of advice: if you want to check out as many girsl in good light as possible, come to the front capucino bar at quarter to 6 in the evening. Food is served at 6, and the girls know it. They have a silly rule there in that the girls must let the men eat first. What the hell, the girls are paying entrance just like the guys. So I think that this rule is not ok. But on the positive side, the many girls hang out there until the get the green light. So you can mke your selection in peace, wait until she has eaten, and then pounce.

I picked Nicoletta, form Rumania, first. She was previously described as an Optikfick here. She is pretty, with very long curly light blond hair. Small breasts, slim. It turened out to be an excellent start to the evening.

Then I chatted for a very long time with a girl from Cologne, who was fairly new to Palace. Pretty, slim, blond. Unfortunately I forgot her name. But she was good in the sack. Standard program, 20 minutes.

An hour later I fell victim to Sandra, from Spain. Black curly hair, big boobs, medium height. I chatted with her at the bar in Spanish, which was actually very enjoyable. She told me about the time she had sex in an airplane; this got me very horny, and so I dicided to go with her.

We had to wait for a room and spent the time with very enjoyable foreplay. In the room, however, there were early warning signs. Right away she asked if I want to do an hour, if I want to try anal, if she coudl suck me to completion. She offered titty-fuck and said I could try it and would only have to pay, if I jerked off on her chest. OK, under those circustances ...

She pulled out a vibrator and put it to use. Also oiled her breasts, and off we went into titty-fuck. After only three minutes of this she asked why I did not come yet. WTF? I said forget about it, lets just do regular sex and get out of here. She put on a condom and mounted me, started going. Then she said that I should not forget that I owed her 100 euro because of the titty-fuck. What a god-damn buzz-killer! I pulled out, said we are done.

I gave her 50, and she complained. I said let's take it to management. Long stroy short, they made me pay an additional 25. ... which makes this my last visit to the Palace for a very long time! Avoid this girl at all cost!

I did not want to let the evening end on such a down note and decided to go for one more session. Hung out at the bar with a couple of Canadians. They were asking if I knew any FKKs that sell alcohol. I told them about FKKW, but of course this is a very long and costly taxi ride from the Palace. They said that they had been to Sudfass two years ago, and that it had a full service bar then. This was news to me. But since I have not been to Sudfass in at least 5 years, it could be true. Does anybody know?

In any case, I then saw Ambra from across the room and was sold right away. Slim, blond, with very pretty face. Rumanian. I had just an outstanding session with her. She really made it seem like she enjoyed sex with me. Who knows, maybe she even did :). Not good enough to crack my top-10 all time, but still definitely worth repeating. (But since I won't go back to the Palace, this is probably not going to happen.)

euro

Dadou29

04-11-06, 15:33

Dadou29

04-11-06, 15:36

Has anybody seen Cindy at the palace lately ?

Dedalus

04-11-06, 19:11

Has anybody seen Cindy at the palace lately ?

I heard that she is there this week.

Dedalus

Stinky Pete

04-13-06, 04:27

Does anyone have info on a women called Katharina at Palace? She's half German and Korean.

ThanksI have in my notes from last August that I got service from a German/Korean woman. The name I jotted down is Christina (?) with a question mark, to indicate that I was not certain I got her name right. Her name may indeed have been Katharina for all I know.

In case we're talking about the same woman, I'll share what I recall and what I have in my notes.

She said she was 42 years old, which struck me as "old" to be giving service at Palace. I was not especially attracted by her appearance. But I saw her giving a guy oral sex in the kino room, and she just kept sucking and sucking and sucking his cock. I was impressed and decided I wanted some of that focused attention for my cock.

When we went into a room, we spent a good 5-10 minutes just talking. She said she comes to Palace from Belgium, where she works in criminal forensics. She had been married to a guy from Amsterdam who had a big dick. He died, and she has chosen to get her sexual appetites met working at FKK clubs every month or so. She called herself a "fellatrix" and said that she loves sucking cock.

She was as good as her word. I had no interest in kissing, fucking or breast play with her. When I finally laid back, she gave me a solid 30 minute blow job, working my cock masterfully, taking me to the edge of orgasm and then letting the intensity subside, only to take me back to the edge again. This went on and on until just at the end of 30 minutes, she took me all the way to an ejaculation so intense I was laughing, maybe with tears in my eyes. She took every drop at the tip of my cock. Great value for 100 Euro.

She said she would be back the next day, but that she would then head back to Belgium. When I saw her the next day, I fully intended to get some more service from her, and openly recommended her to another fellow, but did not mention to her that I wanted service from her later, and I waited too long. By the time I was ready, I could not find her any more. Apparently, she had decided to leave that evening. I had been focused on other women.

I regret that I did not have a second session with her.

Dadou29

04-13-06, 09:51

Will be there this week end, friday 14th and sat 15th. Palace and Oase probably.
If someone want to join.........

M P Lurker

04-15-06, 11:32

Met an American at the Palace who mentioned this forum.

I realised that the information in here could be of great help as I travel for work to many distant places.

So far my favourite place in Europe for sex is the German FKKs and in particular the Palace due to convenience, a lot of choice, and relaxed atmosphere (girls don't hassle too much). Last visit was about 4 weeks ago.

I am a Sex addict in that I particularly want to have sex with the most georgeous girls possible, i.e. models. Preferrably they should be fun girls who act like a girlfriend also. This is indeed possible at the Palace. Business like girls are a turn off but I never rip off the girls. I'm always fair IMO.

Treat the girl well and you will get a great time (most likely).

O.K. enough padding. I should get into my favourite girls roughly in order of preference. Apologies if I spell the names wrong (its a guess) and don't know all the in Abbrevs.

BTW I like girls slim to medium only.

Many other good girls but won't list them all in this post.

The odd ordinary girl but not mentioned here.

1) Daniella - Blonde Romanian beauty with long white boots and body of a model. Breasts only medium size but perfect shape. She was fab GFE and was happy to be licked out for some time.

Great tongue kisser, great BBBJ, fingering anywhere, wild sex.

Apparently multi-orgasmic and happy to fuck for long durations.

Stunning arse for doggy (I'm quite visually oriented).

Weak points (only minor):

Pussy looks not that stunning.

Wanted me to buy Champange but I politely declined as for me alcohol and sex don't go together well at my age 49.

Several repeat sessions.

2) Katerine - tall (in high heels) Blonde Russian from the Black Sea area. Fabulous voluptuous body with real medium large breasts and stunningly beautiful pink bare pussy. Hair usually tightly tied back in pony tail.

Likes to licked and sucked (my favourite pussy).

Wonderful doggy. Her bum bikini tan lines even turned me on a treat.

Didn't tongue kiss the first time but did once she got to like me.

Great BBBJ as is standard I guess.

Puts on a nice masturbation show also.

Several repeat sessions.

Hard to resist going for at least an hour.

Likes to prance around the lounge showing of her fantastic body.

Weak Points:

Hard to find any bad points once she gets to like you, but was slightly cool the first time we met until I went down on her which turned us both on greatly.

4) Elena - voluptuous Russian brunette from black sea area also.

A naughty who really likes oral.

Multi-orgasmic but protests weakly about cumming too much.

Repeat sessions

5) Dinara - Moderate looking girl from Khazakstan with nice body and slightly asian look in the eyes. Exceptional tongue kisser with luscious lips.

Wonderful sex experience with nothing missing.

Weak points:

Nothing other than not as stunning as some others.

6) Linda - Czech/Scottish brunette girl

(yes the one with the gigantic but real tits)

She can't walk anywhere without everyone gawking.

Breasts are like two slightly deflated grid-iron balls.

Great voluptuous body and I greatly enjoyed oral and 69 with her.

Declined the offer of arse fuck.

Her BBBJ was soft and slow (just how I like it). I have never had a better BBBJ anywhere ever. This is her specialty I guess. CIM available if you wish to pay extra. I had no intention of availing myself of CIM but you know - changed my mind in the heat of the excitement.

She is a very nice girl if you treat her fairly.

She does get upset by customers who try to get something for free or try to get more than their monies worth.

Borat69

04-17-06, 23:05

We'll be at palace this weekend. Just wondering what you guys would do if you have 2 days and spending the first day at Palace. What would we get the most out of. Would you do day2 there again, or hit up World/Oase or somewehre else? We're considering going back to the centre and stay at a different hotel. But since we're flying back that night we wnat somewhere close to the airport. Any suggestions? how about oase, or just the erotik supermarket?

Thanks

Viagrant

04-18-06, 10:25

6) Linda - Czech/Scottish brunette girl

(yes the one with the gigantic but real tits)

She can't walk anywhere without everyone gawking.
Breasts are like two slightly deflated grid-iron balls.
Great voluptuous body and I greatly enjoyed oral and 69 with her.
Declined the offer of arse fuck.

Her BBBJ was soft and slow (just how I like it). I have never had a better BBBJ anywhere ever. This is her specialty I guess. CIM available if you wish to pay extra. I had no intention of availing myself of CIM but you know - changed my mind in the heat of the excitement.

She is a very nice girl if you treat her fairly.
She does get upset by customers who try to get something for free or try to get more than their monies worth.

Is this Czech Lina ("Leena")? Sounds like her except for the Scottish part.

Just curious.

V.

Ortos

04-18-06, 13:55

just a quick further update. i spent easter weekend at oase and world. on easter sunday, i actually started out the day with the intention to try palace. i made the short drive to hausen from central ffm and arrived at the reception desk just on the early side of 17.30. the lady recognised me as a past stammgast (regular) and she kind of gave me this "insider's look" and told me in an undertone: "just so you know: there are not a massive number of girls working today, something like 20 only...what can i say? it's easter..." hey thanks for the honesty, lady! i pocketed my 65e and told her i would come back another day...instead i headed for oase where i bumped into dedalus, who, shortly thereafter, had the good sense to go to the room with a great bulgarian performer, inna, who i knew both from her early days at world two years ago, and from a top session about two months ago at oase. she has an incredible fit, thin body, with enhanced chest and great natural ass! the attititude of this girl is her best feature though...as dedalus no doubt found out. i myself got busy with another one of those austrian sauna club imports. this time a dark haired romanian erotic queen named anita. very experienced and did all the right moves, including an outstanding extended bbbj, and good (not extraordinary though) dfk. in the end she remained a bit distant and despite all my efforts i could not break through to the real girl...so i guess i would not repeat, but her body and technique were just to die for...i think she is a friend of the czech kristina who i multiple sessioned with the first night (fri) and with whom i would definitely repeat again and agai. that petite czech can dfk, bbbj and more with the best of them...i await her on thurs or fri...

last night, i decided to try palace again and see how it was. i arrived at 20.30. another lady at the desk, no warning, and a very fine atmosphere. where world and esp oase seemed a bit dead atmosphere-wise, palace on this monday night was fucking hopping! lots of talent and i would have to say a very super line-up with a mix of very established names and acts (daniella of romania, linda of czech with the massive chest, another czech "lina" thanks but no thanks!, and a number of others i recognised from prior visits) plus maybe 40% new girls, including a host of very young petite romanians, the ubiquitous type that one might just as easily encounter at, say, world. speaking of which, two of the more established girls processing men right and left were ex-world romanians: julia of romania (yes, the original with oriental characters down her back); and the statuesque alyssia, who i would never even dream of trying, but in days past she was a hot number in polheim as one or two guys on this board know too well. i also saw the romanian girl anna, who also did a brief stint at world and who also has oriental characters tattood on the spine.

i was very lucky last night in that i made a super choice: a small slender ukrainian girl with shortish blonde hair, mascha. i had encountered this girl a few months ago in the palace kino when she lay next to me, started to kiss me with here incredible thick bbbj lips and was giving me the most intense tickely ball massage...for some reason --i must have been demented!!-- i turned her down in favour of more recovery time and i fully intended to find her later and session with her, but she disappeared and i never saw her again. c'est la fkk, i thought. but i could never get her out of my mind. well last night, i spotted her...i was not 100% sure it was her but i felt pretty certain. she was entangled in a group of older turkish-looking men who were buying her drinks and perhaps just wasting her time. i gave her a couple of eye flirts and air kisses and smiles. i then let her observed me walking into the kino area alone and motioned with my head. i went into the almost empty kino spread a towel out and lay there...sure enough, 5 minutes later she sidled up to me, and draped her legs over mine and started giving me that same intense ball massage, whispering dear ukrainian utterings into my ear... we smooched in the kino for a while longer until she started that great bbbj...lucky there are roooms adjacent to the palace kino...off we went. two long hour sessions with her that night, great intense orgasms.... i will revisit shortly, i think.

but the message is that palace had all kinds of talent last night and i had several girls i would have done had mascha not been there. on balance i found palace, as often is the case, to offer more 9s than world or oase.

bottom line: in my opinion all the three ffm fkks are in pretty good shape right now! no where near the gloom and doom situation of weeks past...

ortos

post-script:

i went back the following day, tues, and arrived much earlier than i normally do at palace; this time i elected to go there in the afternoon around 16.00 vs my normal 20.00-prime time arrival. lucky thing i did too! i was greeted with quite optimal mongering conditons: lots of girls --maybe 25-30?? not many men, maybe a dozen. and the vibe was great, really relaxed, nice soft music playing, everybody just mellowed out. the girls were on balance of pretty high beauty scale, and i saw more than a few who i had noticed worked the previous night shift, so there must be a carry over there. also present were girls known to me as strictly day shift girls, like the long active nicoletta, bleached blonde romanian now firmly mid-20s from her possibly early 20s atlantis days, and the outstanding russian/latvian anastasia, who has dropped several kilos but still kisses like an angel. i have had several super sessions with anastasia in the past, when she used to work nights at palace a year+ ago, so i went with her again and it was better than ever!

i left around 17.30 and re-entered 23.00. what a different scene. very noisey, rowdey and "in-your-face" type of vibe...there were more girls that is for sure. but the overall quality was down a bit over the previous night and even not as great i thought as maybe the day shift if that makes any sense. just to show things vary from day to day in these clubs. interesting i noticed the famous angelika of siberia, old star from atlantis who was one of the first converts to palace and whose looks, if you will allow a personal editiorial note, have gone pretty down hill. yet she still manages to ply her trade now almost 4 years after her famous atlantis days. probably she still uses palace as an occassional venue for staging meetings with her old stammegaste (regulars) on an advanced appointment only basis...

Patricklim1234

04-19-06, 22:19

Palace

<Insert usual disclaimer stating to each his own and my taste may not coincide with yours. I ask for everyone's understanding as these reports are my first, along with the fact that it was my first time in Germany / FKK-Club. Keep in mind also that this is just a report of my experiences, it may not coincide with yours, and I do not make any guarentee whatsoever>

For an overall comparison and a conclusion, please refer to my post under the General Info Section

Un-sex things

Getting to Palace is pretty straight forward. I got into taxi from the main train station, showed them the address of Palace, and within 10mins I was there. Fare was about 9-10Euros.

I was there on two days, the first day was from 10pm - 1am after spending the day in Oase (was tired honestly), the second day was from 10am-2pm just before returning to 'home'. On the first day when I left the club at roughly 1am, the number of guys outnumbered the girls by roughly 2.5 : 1. On the second day, being early in the afternoon, there were roughly only 5 guys to about 12 girls.

After paying the 65Euros you reach the buffet area. To the left of the buffet area around the smaller bar there are two corridors, one leading to the men's changing room, the other leading to more sofas and the massage area.

Past the buffet area is the main lounge, and the rooms are spread all around the lounge. There are saunas and a small pool at the back, but that's about it. The place is pretty small and can be "explored" completely within a couple of minutes.

Sex things

Personally I found the standard of girls pretty bad. They were on average a 5-7, with an occasional 8 and only one 9 who I had a great time fucking. I also found the average age of the girls here pretty high, with a couple who look to be approaching their 40s.

Julia

Nationality: Romania
Looks: 9/10
Height: ~1.72m
Sex: 9/10
English: Her english was good, I was able to carry out a conversation with her easily.

Her boobs are the real pull basically. Initially I thought she was a rusher as she had a pretty fast turnover. I did not time her though, but she kept going in and out of rooms. The other reason would be perhaps because she was the only really attractive girl (I found) there that night. She has a tatoo of 8 chinese words at the center of her back (There were two girls with such tatoos that night, but the tatoos are not identical). She was just done with cleaning up when I called her over. We talked a little then headed to the rooms, I could feel getting a lot of stares from the other men at this point. Anyhows, upon entering the room, I asked her for the time, and I think she took the hint that I was in no way about to rush this. It was a wise move as we took part in some foreplay then chatted a bit. We talked for about 10mins then I felt it was time so I said, "let's fuck". And we did. Put it simply, sex was good, and it was awesome to be fucking this beautiful girl.

Christina

Nationality: Hungary
Looks: 7/10
Height: ~1.63m
Sex: 6/10
English: Her english was just below decent, able to converse but had troubles understanding each other sometimes

She was a "going away fuck" basically. It was during the day and there weren't any real stunners at Palace when I was there. Everything was mediocre, didn't expect much.

Gyg66

04-19-06, 23:36

Been there this week. Girls I remarked:
Polish Silvia, blonde, tat around her right arm, doing customers one after the other as usual; Julia & Anna from Romania, fake C-cups, light blond smooth long hairs, belly piercing, both with a tattoo with oriental characters down the spine just over the butt; Eva from Greece, Turkish Julia, Tiffany / Adriana from Slovak Rep., Magdalene (light blond long hair, nice face, very slim, wearing a scarf), Paula & Alita (two new young & pretty Rumanians).
I have been with Julia & Anna:
Anna kisses with her tongue, she looks like "Paris Hilton" a little bit. BBBJ with some teeth, CG, doggie and mish. Very beautiful girl.
Julia does not kiss, and as already reported she does not let you touch her new tits. She use gel which I like, her pussy is fantastic; better BBBJ than Anna in my opinion (less hand work), then I finished with doggie and missionary.
Who is the girl with the long smooth black hairs, about 160 cm tall, big round cups, nice round bottom, looks like bulgaria or rumanian? I have already seen her two times there.
Bye for now.

Visual

04-20-06, 03:02

Has any one had the pleasure of Stephanie, A 19 year old German. Great skin, Blond hair, Saved, Great ass, average boobs but saggy. Wears a Big Cross-.

She looked half asleep on the couch but was great in the room.

Wanking

04-21-06, 01:28

The following could be valuable info to the $$$ conscious "Ho chasers" out there (like me). FKK Cocoon is in Wuppertal near to Dusseldorf.

http://www.fkk-cocoon.de/
http://www.etaphotel.com/etaphotel/...che_hotel.shtml

For guys that want to visit Germany for a couple days just to visit FKK clubs, probably the cheapest and most popular option to date was to visit FKK Palace in Frankfurt and stay in the IBIS hotel nearby. It takes about an hour to travel by train from airport to Palace as you need to take 3 trains.
According to http://www.vrr.de/en/ you can travel from Dusseldorf airport to Cocoon via 2 trains and one bus in a little over an hour. The Etap hotel is only 1.4 kms away, a similar distance that the IBIS is to Palace. Both hotels are walking distance from their respective clubs.

Palace costs based on 2 visits, 8 fucks, and 1 night in the hotel:
Hotel: 69
Palace : 65 x 2
Session : 50 x 8(30 mins including BBBJ - but there have been reports lately of 20 -25 mins)
Total: 599 Euro

Cocoon costs based on 2 visits, 8 fucks, and 1 night in the hotel:
Costs:
Hotel: 35
Cocoon : 35 x 2 (happy hour : 10 - 14 and 19 - 03 Mon - Fri)
Session : 25 x 8 ( 20 mins) or 35 with BBBJ.
Total : 305 and 385 with BBBJ

So a potential saving of €300 if you can do without BBBJ.

And Cocoon serves Beer. Ok there are reportedly less women than Palace, but apparently the quality is better. I am sure cocoon has other disadvantages over Palace, and there is probably less fun and less public sex in Cocoon. But if you were happy to stick with the 20 min shags without BBBJ, then the savings seem very decent over a few days.

Flights from the UK are about the same price to both cities.

EFrog

04-21-06, 02:11

I think we must be very lucky... Cocoon FKK doesn't have a thread here, if not you will have posted three times the same report...
(it is already in general information...).

your comparison has as much sense as if I would say, 5 stars hotel in Berlin is more expensive than 3 stars in noname city in the middle of nowhere district.
Have you ever stayed in Wuppertal !!! compared to Frankfurt...

In addition I wasn't thinking about fun in an auditing way...

Your flight wasn't from UK... it was from Scotland... lol

Whitey2

04-21-06, 03:42

I've been to Cocoon, although not lately, and had a great time when I was there. Smaller, more intimate club, smaller percentage of English-speaking people in it but enough to not be a language barrier. Unrushed atmosphere. No aggressive approaches by SP. By the way, it's just a hop and a skip from Beverly (maybe 10 min) if you want to also sample the party treff scene.

Wuppertal's really kind of an interesting place. There's an elevated tram system that meanders along over a river. It's a neat ride, and on certain evenings they also run very fancy diner cars. The downtown shopping area that I went to was as modern and busy as any you'd find in Frankfurt.

I stayed in an interesting hotel called the Art-Fabrik, which is an old converted Engels factory (remember Marx & Engels? - his rich pappy owned the factory). It's a little pricey in the rack rate, but they often have weekend specials - right now, for instance, I see on their website that you can stay this Friday, Saturday and Sunday for a total of about 89 euros. That's a deal in my book, and it's a four-star hotel.

I appreciate Wan King's very informative post. Thanks a lot for the time and effort, dude. Great report.

eFrog, on the other hand, seems immaturely determined to foul the mood of this forum by posting whiny, flaming personal attacks on people - juvenile provocation that amounts to ZERO information. I thought you learned your lesson the last time you did this, eFrog, but apparently not.

Delgado

04-21-06, 13:29

Your flight wasn't from UK... it was from Scotland... lol

When did Scotland declare independance? Must have missed that... ;)

Wanking

04-21-06, 15:15

I just find ridiculous when it comes to penny cutting on activities like mongering.
I normally avoid arguments with other members, but that statement makes you sound like a right arrogant old prick.

There are many guys reading this forum that have to watch their cash, and are looking for ways to conserve money. I know because I often meet these kind of guys on trips.

Personally I like to go on regular trips, every four to six weeks, and if I can save 300 or 400 euro on a trip, it makes a big difference to me.

Efrog, mongering isnt just a hobby for the rich.

EFrog

04-23-06, 04:32

I normally avoid arguments with other members, but that statement makes you sound like a right arrogant old prick.
(...)
Efrog, mongering isnt just a hobby for the rich.

let us stop this discussion.
it will go nowhere, we don't trust same values, period.

to draw comparison :
I know, a plane is landing at same time for coach and First.
I value comfort and time.
Others do value savings.
both parts of the plane must be full booked.
the only thing is that high contributing passengers are making the airlines profit and investing capacity, so they can buy larger airliner moving more low cost passengers...

low cost war has brought major airlines to chapter 11, but I never heard that front part passengers service got any company to shut down.

See yourself :
you are happy to visit Palace, why don't you go at Frankfurt RLD...
it is much cheaper...

my point in answering you was :
1- I don't understand why posting twice the same report in two threads. If everybody would do, Jackson could just double his server investment but for what bonus ?
2- I keep saying that when it goes to fun, I don't see the reason for doing cost auditing how to save pennies.

I should have added : "but you can have your own opinion"

by the way : for your next time in FRA, you can reach from airport to Palace with S-Bahn in two legs instead of three. Just change at Haupt Wache instead of Hbf ...
it is for your next report about "how to save on FKK"
It will not save you money, but time and comfort...
Just as an example of a different way of thinking.

To finish : about the controversy about rich and...
short story :
Billionar Baronet Rothschild said one day :
"I am not rich enough to afford to use "for free" services"...
when it is free, you always can expect some backdraft...
same for cheap...

Whitey2

04-23-06, 04:48

[QUOTE=eFrog] I don't want to get into argument...

I don't believe that for a minute. I think you thrive on it.

[QUOTE=eFrog] In addition, I notice that you like the kind of comment when you do it yourself : "free beer post" last Feb on same poster... but not when others do.

I had to look that up to see what you were talking about. That was a joke I posted to a person I have actually met, albeit briefly, at World back in December, along with a number of other mongers. He's a nice guy. I have no reason to be intentionally nasty to him, and I wasn't trying to be. Maybe I just don't write jokes well. Fred, if you somehow took offense, I apologise.

But eFrog, your quote above is right in that I DO like to jump in with both feet when I read your SINCERE personal attacks and derogatory remarks. And by responding I end up being equally guilty of cluttering up this forum with crap instead of useful information. I hereby apologise to everyone else on this forum for doing that. Won't do it again.

Fortunately, Jackson has supplied the cyberspace equivalent of a Roach Motel for me to put you in. To quote: "If you don't like another Forum Member's reports, then simply add them to your "Ignore List" and you'll never see their reports again."

In you go. Close and bolt the door, push the enter button..........(click)

Tyweed

04-23-06, 07:20

ALOHA, my Japanese friend and I are visiting PALACE and OASE (the main events for us) and the other parts of Germany from 5/1-5/7, so I have been checking this forum to get the lastest information, but it seems that this forum is going to a wrong direction.

I know some guys are very proud and like to win in any arguement, but I would say "let's respect each other and move on!!". In the end, we just like to have some fun at FKKs!

Ahhh, I am dying to see all those ladies at PALACE/OASE again! I cannot help checking this site everyday.

Peace,

Tweed

[QUOTE=eFrog]let us stop this discussion.
it will go nowhere, we don't trust same values, period.

to draw comparison :
I know, a plane is landing at same time for coach and First.
I value comfort and time.
Others do value savings.
both parts of the plane must be full booked.
the only thing is that high contributing passengers are making the airlines profit and investing capacity, so they can buy larger airliner moving more low cost passengers...

low cost war has brought major airlines to chapter 11, but I never heard that front part passengers service got any company to shut down.
.
.
.....Blah, blah, blah......

Wanking

04-23-06, 13:07

Yeah Efroggy,

lets finish this argument now.

This is the last thing I will ever say to you: Your a fucking asshole.

Breadman

04-23-06, 14:43

I know, a plane is landing at same time for coach and First.

And Breadman will be in the lavatory with the stewardess...nothing like that final approach...

M P Lurker

04-24-06, 09:21

Is this Czech Lina ("Leena")? Sounds like her except for the Scottish part.

Just curious.
V.Well I can't be 100% sure but Ortos seems to confirm that Linda and Lina are 2 different girls.

Linda is a big girl (tallish) long brunette but not fat at all. Bigs luscious lips. Gigantic real breasts that cannot be ignored. Often wears a gauze scarf arond the neck. I think she indicated that her father was Scottish even though her accent is consistent with Czech. She is very busy almostall the time. She liked me because I treated her well but indicated that some customers upset her.

Not my favourite girl overall but favourite for BBBJ.

Shark16

04-24-06, 21:24

Well I can't be 100% sure but Ortos seems to confirm that Linda and Lina are 2 different girls.

Linda is a big girl (tallish) long brunette but not fat at all. Bigs luscious lips. Gigantic real breasts that cannot be ignored. Often wears a gauze scarf arond the neck. I think she indicated that her father was Scottish even though her accent is consistent with Czech. She is very busy almostall the time. She liked me because I treated her well but indicated that some customers upset her.

Not my favourite girl overall but favourite for BBBJ.Just to confirm once and for all that Linda and Lina (Line?) are two different girls (both Czech, but Linda has a Scottish father).

You describe Linda pretty well above. She has been there for years and is well-known at Palace. Lina I think started last September. She is dark blond, and has also big lusciuos lips and nice chest, although somewhat smaller than Linda's (D-cups?). And may I add, a luscious behind ... ;-)

Linda is known for usually giving decent service, while Lina from to time gets bad reports. She's definetely not a GFE kind of girl, and enjoys processing guys (sessions rarely exceeds 15- 25 mnts). However, this beauty surely knows how to put you on fire and make your blood boil within these minutes, if you are willing to play the game on her terms. Just don't expect anything more. There are definetely better providers at Palace.

Linda: Looks 7, service 7.
Lina: Looks 9, service 5 - 8 (That's my experience. Others will say she is a rip-off).

Actually, Linda and Lina sometimes hang out together in the club. I believe Lina used to use Linda as mentor when she first arrived at Palace (you could notice they would approach guys in a similar way). They are both very professional. The first time I met Lina (last fall) she proposed a threesome with Linda(!). I never tried, but I think I recall someone reporting on that on this thread.

Mike De H

04-24-06, 22:34

Ed Setra

04-25-06, 12:35

One more confirmation that Lina is indeed different in person, attitude and performance to the lovely Linda. Lina might score on pure looks and proportions, but her performance in the room is way short of Linda's.

Having said all that, I succumbed to their double act invitation on a visit in January. Overall a bit rushed but memorable none the less. Linda's kissing and bj were far superior to the somewhat distant Lina. They tried to up-sell with offers of a lesbian show but I declined and settled for 30 minutes with a standard fee to each. I still get the occasional flashback of looking upwards, my head between Linda's thighs, at the magnificent sight of her bouncing bountiful breasts while Lina, simultaneously cowgirl lower down my body, rode me to completion.

Jesus, I'm living it. This is bad, I need a return visit.

Lllldick

04-26-06, 02:19

Dear colleagues,

I am a new commer in Frankfurt for short term business travel. I'd read great contributions about both FKK and on the ISG forum.

For sure, I will go to FKK but Partytreff appears luring to me. I knew that PT DV, Beverly, and Mettmen worth visiting if I had time. Here are the questions:

1. Due to the traffic limitations, any PT around Frankfurt worthy of visiting? Or just FKK experience was enough around Frankfurt area? (PT Atlantis. Or so? )

2. Is it possible that I will be just watching, drinking if no girl invited in PT because of ethnic factor?

3. Any recent PT experience in Frankfurt (hard to find in the forum recently)?

Thanks for response.

L4dick

Borat69

05-01-06, 15:43

Haha. Lina. You guys actually remember all their names? That's pretty impressive. My friend did a 3some with that Lina chick. I think I know who this Linda chick is. She's Czech and also got pretty big tits, tanned skin, brown/blonde features. She's got a bit of a wide ass though.

Just a few tips and suggestions from our recent report, I hope they help. I'm sure a few of these have been mentioned by other senior members but I know many are too lazy to search :p :

1. Don't worry too much about where to stay. Palace is VERY accessible from the centre. You can get there by train for something like 3 or 4 euros. However, I would HIGHLY recommend Flemings. It is the new 4 * built next door. At the moment its' still under construction. We recently stayed in what appeared to be a suite - HUGE plasma TV, huge separate living room, an awesome bathroom with separate toilet, free wifi so you can browse this forum for all you like while you wait for the cialis to kick in :)

2. Which brings me to - cialis. While it doesn't do very much for me, it does have a longer half life than viagra and milder side effects. A few people report photophobia and migraines and flushing. But if you plan to be banging away the whole day, I would suggest you take half a pill!

3. Get a robe. You have to ask for this. Many times they will just give you a couple of towels. I way prefer a robe, esp when you get out of the tub it can be pretty cold, but just run into the sauna! The experienced mongers all seem to know this and they run out pretty quick.

4. The erotic cinemas are where the soliciting happens. I would avoid them because I would rather pick what I want. Our very first experience there was in here, and you will also notice it's usually girls who don't get that many customers who hit up the customers there. My friend was pretty pissed on this trip when a chick from the Dominican Republic (who wasn't much of a looker) kept bugging him. He told her he was sleeping and he kept bugging him. He goes in the whirlpool and she comes over and bugs him. Annoying. But this is a pretty rare occurence. I never had trouble in there.

5. Eat :) It's free. Drink :) It's free. Avoid the champagne.

6. Check out the massage and the Turkish baths- even though I suspect the guy working htere now to be a fag. There used to be a hot chick who worked but I'm not sure if she still there. I know they used to have a table where you can get BJs while getting a massage. Doubt that exists anymore.

7. Less guys in the day. After work hours that's when it starts to get busy. Even on Sundays.

8. Most importantly, have fun, and enjoy the experience. I don't think there are many other experineces in life that get closer to heaven. :)

Dr Luv 69

Borat69

05-01-06, 16:14

Ok quick report:

#1 German chick - can't remember her name, but she bloody sure remembered mine. Very tall, great face, great tits, great body... strangely a bit geeky, but very lively. I think she's from the Cologne area originally. Has a small diamond I think on the side of her lip. Great girl. the sex wasn't anything mind blowing but she was just really cool.

#2 One of the chicks from the Romanian duo - she reminds me of Reese Witherspoon. Loved the way she bounced up and down, and we had lots of fun. My friend and I did a 4some with her friend together. I have to say they tend to solicit alot and seem to always try to get customers to go to rooms together with them. I didn't like how they spoke in Romanian with each other in the room (compared to my eventual 3 some experience this was mediocre). But I still highly recommend this blonde Romanian chick. Her name has been mentioned on here before but I can't remember it.

#3 Romanian short hair chick - I think her name was Emma or something. She is VERY pretty and is always sitting on the couches. My friend and I did swappies with her and she was accomodating but not very patient and was deifnitely not the best experience in that regard.

#4 My 3 some - this made up for the whole weekend. Both were Russian girls - it was fucking amazing. Jesus. THere were a few combos I was looking at and I came across this by luck. was at the bar when a girl was just sat there. I tend to ignore those who solicit but she was just chilling so I started talking with her, and really thought she was cute. And damn when she stood up she had one killer body - reminded me of that chick from Oase (see report there). Super tall, amazing slim but curved at right places, small tits. I went on a quest with her to find another chick I've seen around a few times and wanted her to join. Another blonde but smaller chick...

Ok so off to the bedroom. One chick is tonguing deep, the other is blowing. Then they swappies. Then they both fight for dr luv's cock. One on top, the other tonguing. Another on top, the other tonguing. Doing one doggy, the other watching. Doing the other doggy, the other watching. holy shit. I've done 3somes before but they were mediocre experiences. THIS is how it should be. It was beautiful. All in all, I dont think I'll ever enjoy normal sex again.

Until next time

Dr Luv 69

Ebauche

05-01-06, 16:26

Lina is the Czech with large breasts and long brown hair/blonde highlights. Has bangs cut straight across, and usually lets hair fall straight or in a loose ponytail. Pretty good service if you go for extras (CIM/Anal/60 min), and if you don't "waste her time." She is a "shark," constantly swimming through the water looking for the next "victim."

Linda is the Czech girl with even larger breasts (more droop to them than Lina's) with long brown hair usually pulled back in a ponytail, often wearing a white chiffon scarf around her neck. Also a "shark," but slightly less of one than Lina. Excellent reliable BBBJ, doesn't quit until you've CIM, even if it takes the full 30 minutes.

Both give excellent BBBJTCCIMWS and anal. THe more time/money you spend with them, the sweeter they are. But, they expect you to decide to go with them almost immediately. When I've been with Palace neophytes, and they Linda/Lina have approached me, I often recommend them to my fellow guests as excellent BBBJ/anal providers. So, the expectations on extras are known. Nobody has ever come back out of the room unhappy. As a result, these gals usually treat me well.

If you know what to expect, these girls offer pretty good service.

Is Palace picking up? Might be there later this week.

Borat69

05-01-06, 16:40

Hey ebauche,

Yeah I meant Linda, not Lina. Damn, I am sure that Lina did copy Linda's style because didn't she mentor her. I agree that even their shark appraoch to customers is VERY similar. Lots of pacing thrown in there, but gets quick to the point. So yeah my friend loved Linda and has done her twice. But she must get through quite a few guys. It was funny when she came to talk with him for a bit then asked if he wants to go to the room with her and he said 'actually ive done that already before'. But hey that was a few months back.

Lina on the other hand did try to pick me up but I just dismissed it. I tend to weed out chicks like that just in principle that the experience tends to be mediocre at best. I find the quieter ones that are doing their own thing in their own world to be better experiences.

I don't know how Palace is this week but I have to say last weekend it was pretty booming. I wrote up a quick report with a few girls but it hasn't been posted yet (but as I should be getting my senior member upgrade I'm sure it'll come along) hopefully it'll help, unforutnately I never bother to remember the names of all those girls so you'll have to go by description :)

Rain City

05-05-06, 10:44

I visited Palace and it was hopping! I saw many gorgeous women, and some of them looked 10 in my book (Kirara and Paula from Romania, just to name a few). A few new girls I did not see before, and some of my favorites were missing.

I had a session with a German girl, Jennifer. She was very friendly. Although she was not gorgeous (I would rate her 8.5/8, face/body), she was certainly pretty. Overall, her service was not bad, but she wanted extra $ for what I would consider standard service. During bj, I asked ball licking. She told me that would be extra $. That was a turn off. Overall, it was a decent session. But not sure if I will repeat. (8.5/8/8, face/body/service)

I also had a session with Daniella from Romania. Boy isn't she sweet? She was discussed many times before, so I won't say much here. But I really had a nice time. (7/8.5/9)

Death Warrior

05-05-06, 17:21

Managed to get to Palace twice last week (24th and 26th) while in Frankfurt on business. Was staying at the Sheraton at the airport, as there was a fair on and prices for my regular place, the Marriott, was over €400 per night ! Since the fair was on, it was really busy. There were many groups of guys coming in obviously taking advantage of their business trips to the messe. It was funny watching a group of Asians ( Chinese I think) with their interpreter. He would perform all of the negotiations as the girls approached for the others in his group.

Anyway, first pop was Czech Linda. I have seen here there each time I've been to Palace and read the reports of other members, so thought I'd give her a try. She tried to sell the extra straight away (extended time and anal). Soft BBBJ, DFK, mish and then doggy to finish.

Second pop was with a Ukrainian, I think called Leanne. She never approaches, sits on the couch near the pole. She has a great figure and her butt and lower spine really jutt out. Excellent session with her, plenty of DFK, BBBJ with ball licking and multiple positions.

Third pop was with Czech Lina. This was a complete waste of time. I can fully concur with the recent reports, which I had not read, that her service is bad. She actually approached one of the group of Chinese guys who was sitting next to me on one of the swinging couches and he was not interested. I however was looking for my last release before heading off home, so she looked good and I said lets go. We waited for one of the rooms near the bar, since all of the other were fairly busy. Inside, it was a quick sell for anal, a quick BBBJ and then sex, no DFK. IMHO one to avoid. Left at about 1am

Visited again on the 26th. Initially seemed like a completely different group of girls, but as it got later I saw may of the girls from previous night. First one for the evening was Romainian Angelika, black hair who speaks good English. I could sense this would be a shit session ! First on the couch in the waiting room, there was no intimacy. We had to wait quite a while for a room, since it was busy and she was bitching about waiting saying "her time was money...blah blah". The session was very mechanical, BBBJ and two positions, no DFK another one to avoid.

The next one was Lucy of Turkish origin, but born in Germany, Cologne if I remember correctly. She quite petite, with small tits, nice butt and lovely long hair. This was an ok session nothing earth shattering though.

On reflection, I think that going twice so quickly did not help and also the messe makes the girls want to process the men as quickly as possible, so will try to plan my next visit accordingly.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that somebody will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Ortos

05-06-06, 05:41

Death Warrior,

Thanks for your effort to write and post this report. Nice to hear some of our reviews of Czech Lina are bang on! Too bad you fell for this sub-standard provider.

About your episode:

"First one for the evening was Romainian Angelika, black hair who speaks good English. I could sense this would be a shit session ! First on the couch in the waiting room, there was no intimacy. We had to wait quite a while for a room, since it was busy and she was bitching about waiting saying "her time was money...blah blah". The session was very mechanical, BBBJ and two positions, no DFK another one to avoid."

Just so you know: If you start to see red flags and warning lights whilst on the couch waiting for a room, it is not too late to abort the session. So long as there has been no heavy foreplay between you for an extended time prior to the room, and esp if there has been no bbbj yet, you can simply walk away and detatch from a girl whilst waiting. True, it might be a bit awkward, but it is technically playing by the rules. Try it, it might save you some Euros and allow you to end the night on a more positive note...

Ortos

Mike De H

05-06-06, 10:09

Second pop was with a Ukrainian, I think called Leanne. She never approaches, sits on the couch near the pole. She has a great figure and her butt and lower spine really jutt out. Excellent session with her, plenty of DFK, BBBJ with ball licking and multiple positions.

Third pop was with Czech Lina. This was a complete waste of time.

I fully concur, have been with Leanne twice. She rarely gets mentioned but is pretty, and superb passionate performer.

Lina is the wicked witch of the west as far as I am concerned and posting this a couple of months ago got me into some criticism. so I too am pleased that mroe people post about her. Eventually, her business should suffer and her habits improve or she gets starved out.

However each guy that reads this and takes notice, is one guy who keeps his 50 Euros in his pocket.

Keep up the good work.

Everhard

05-06-06, 21:16

Lina is the wicked witch of the west

However each guy that reads this and takes notice, is one guy who keeps his 50 Euros in his pocket.Sometimes good advice doesn't matter.

I looked at this beautiful creature, and she approached me. She said she was from Czech, and her name was Lina. That triggered a vague recall. I knew I had read something about a Lina in the forum. And I was also pretty sure it was something bad. But still, this girl seemed so nice and friendly that it couldn't be her - or could it? No, it must be another girl, or I was confusing good and bad reviews. So off we went.

I can reveal that it was the infamous Lina. Truly amazing that I couldn't pick up the vibes on this one beforehand. To her defense, she is far from the worst experience at the fuck factory Palace. Only slightly below acceptable, but damn sure no repeat will take place with her.

You live and you learn:-)

Felix Nordic

05-07-06, 12:47

Well, first time in an Fkk club and it was to be palace in Frankfurt on the 2nd of may. I was stuck at the airport and had to do something during the day. I arrive at palace at 11 and it was rather empty which suited a tired man like myself! Walked around and saw a stunner in the bar close to the pool and talked to her. It was Jennifer, 24 from Germany, medium blonde and 170 cm and rather slim with bronzed body. Very sweet and beautiful girl as well as friendly to talk to! After 10 mins flirt and conversation (she explained a few things to me as newcommer) I went to a room with her. She was really sweet with deep kissing and no hurry, DATY and kissed her ass, BBBJ! (by the way BBBJ is standard for all the girls in the normal price e 50) Nice energy in the lovemaking and very nice attitude. I decided to finish in her mouth and lower face since I havnt had sex for a couple of days. My gun was ready to shoot big time! Glorious! She took it all, no complains, and I even think she swallowed it (she only wiped the outside of her mouth afterwards). This girl Jennifer, 8,5 in beauty, and 9 in performance and much GFE. She set me back e 100 and it was definetely worth it! I didnt expect this well from a German girl. Later she came back to me and we sat in tha bar chatting for 20 mins. I can highly recommend Jennifer!
Second girl Angela from Hungary, brunetta approx 173 with slim body. She told me 22 but she was about 5 years older I suspect. Quite flirty and nice to talk with even though english was very weak. I bargained her down to a e 50 extra for 10 minutes anal. Of to the room we went. She became more cold as she entered and I didnt want to do DATY on her and very light kissing. BBBJ was there but not very well done. As I started to shag her you want to change positions and then she started to complain "No akrobatic". Her pussy was not very tight and Im sure she is a mother. Though slim her tits are not very firm. For anal she angeled her ass which made it more dificult for me to penetrate deep. darn! She was problematic and complained again when I wanted to change position! Finished in her ass and finally this misery was over! Angela is a 7 in beauty and 4 in performance. Avoid her!!! Interestingly enough she was quite busy with customers later. Im sure NO repeat customers!
Third girl was Isabel, another tall slim medium blonde girl from Germany. She was kind of sexy with a face reminding of pornostar Amber Lynn. So I had to do her! She did a lot of fake giggeling and was more pushy to go to the room. But since she was sexy I agreed for a normal e 50 session. In the room we went to nice deep kissing fast, 69, DATY and she gave a hot BBBJ angeling her face to look me in the eyes after my command! Nice ass to kiss as well! :)
Did her in different positions and it was an ok session. I give Isabel 8 in beauty and 7 in performance.
By now my juice was drying up and it was soon 18.00 and I had to withdraw to the airport! I didnt want to miss the buffet that starts at 18. I was challenging my mind if I could do another girl or go to the airport... When I decided to go for the buffet I saw a girl taht completely changed my mind! Walking in comes a tall slim green eyed blonde with a beautiful face a stunning hardbody! Like taken from a penthouse mag!! My goodness!! I approched her fast and asked her if she was free and she was but she wanted to eat. So I explained my situation to her and of to the room we went! Daniella from Romania! My goodness! I rate her the most beautiful girl I have ever shagged! In the room I did some small firting in Romanian language and she loved that and we begun deep kissing! Just watching her made my dick rock hard again! When this beauty did me BBBJ I was in heaven! I did her hard for a 20-25 minutes and every minute was a true pleasure! In all positions she looked like a centerfold! Perfect body, waist, tits, firm well-trained ass and legs! I did DATY and kissed her ass and she tried to talk me into anal for e 150 extra which I had to refuse! I wanted to finish in her face for a e 50 extra! I was surprised I could keep my willie up as I did and even to give beautiful Daniella some juice in her face! What a pleasure! She got some juice in here eye and started to complain a bit. I sweet talked her in the romanian language and she became happy again. After I had payed her she asked me when I will come back to palace next time! I give Daniella 9,5 in beauty and 8 in performance. Like shagging a girl form a magazine! This top girl set me back e 100 and she is worth every cent! Highly recommended if you turn on to top beauties!
(don not mix up Daniella with Nicoleta, another slim romanian girl with burry blonde hair and a funny voice who is about 7,5 in beauty)

Summary; Palace was a nice experience and in between the sessions I did a lot of looking at the girls, nice saunas, hot pool, sleeping and some drinks. The breakfast buffet is quite weak. Some girls are pushy, which I dont like, but in general the atmosphere is very relaxed. One uggly and old thai girl even tried to wake me up when I was sleeping! Grrr...
Total cost Euro 415 including 4 girls and relax and food. My first girl and my last girl made my day into a paradise! I will come back for sure!!

//Felix

M P Lurker

05-08-06, 10:12

.... Daniella from Romania! My goodness! I rate her the most beautiful girl I have ever shagged! In the room I did some small firting in Romanian language and she loved that and we begun deep kissing! Just watching her made my dick rock hard again! When this beauty did me BBBJ I was in heaven! I did her hard for a 20-25 minutes and every minute was a true pleasure! In all positions she looked like a centerfold! Perfect body, waist, tits, firm well-trained ass and legs! I did DATY and kissed her ass and she tried to talk me into anal for e 150 extra which I had to refuse! I wanted to finish in her face for a e 50 extra! I was surprised I could keep my willie up as I did and even to give beautiful Daniella some juice in her face! What a pleasure! She got some juice in here eye and started to complain a bit. I sweet talked her in the romanian language and she became happy again. After I had payed her she asked me when I will come back to palace next time! I give Daniella 9,5 in beauty and 8 in performance. Like shagging a girl form a magazine! This top girl set me back e 100 and she is worth every cent! Highly recommended if you turn on to top beauties!

(don not mix up Daniella with Nicoleta, another slim romanian girl with burry blonde hair and a funny voice who is about 7,5 in beauty)
//FelixFelix,

Daniella was one of my 2 favourites. You gave her 8 out of 10 for performance. How come she lost 2 whole marks?

I rated her as follows:

Body: 9 (could have been 10 if her pussy was as beautiful as the immaculate rest)
Face: 8+
Sexual Performance: 9 (perhaps her BBBJ is not quite a 10).
Stamina and willingness to please: 10
Worst point: Wanted some champagne (high cost)
Unfortunately (or fortunately) alcohol interferes with my stamina
so I stay well clear when wanting to have sex all day.

Try Katherine from Russia (with exquisite pussy) some day to compare beauty and performance. I have trouble dragging myself away from the stunning model types, even though some more normal looking girls may give extreme quality service. The optifik qualities turn me on all the more.

I'm a little warped this way. But if you can have a model with great service as well, its really heaven.

Micky

Felix Nordic

05-08-06, 18:23

Mick Licker;
Well man I go for the model look! Daniellas body is close to perfection for me! Very close! She could have had a few more cm but she is really what I ask for in my dreams. Face is a 9 with lovely green eyes. SO I rate her 9,5 in beauty! Pussy looked fine to me even from close distance ;)

Performance was very good, but like you wrote, BBBJ was not top notch! She gave good energy like a romanian latina girl should. But she also had a slight professional attitude probably because she knows her market value very well. Like she insisted on champagne from you, because she knows she can get it. I was also a bit stressed because of my flight 90 minutes later and she was the fourth girl this day! I wish I would have done Daniella to start with and for a full hour!

Maybe next time! :)

Cheers,
Felix

P.s Thanks for the tip on katherina! :) What does she look like?

Rain City

05-09-06, 05:04

I totally agree with Felix and Mick. Daniella is absolutely wonderful. She has a beautiful body and provides wonderful service. Very GFE.

Felix, I wonder if there are more than one German Jennifer at Palace. Your description kind of fits into the girl I met, but my Jennifer was a lot shorter (around 160 cm). And, although she was very friendly, I thought her service was average to slightly better than average. I also did not like the fact that she asked extra $ for what I would consider a standard (although good) service.

Aside from those, I should report two more sessions I had at Palace recently. As I previously mentioned, I spotted real hotties and decided to have sessions with two of them (if I could, I would have had sessions with all of them).

First one was Paula from Romania. She is 23 yr old, but looks really young. Beautiful blue eyes and slim body with perfect perky breasts. She hangs out with two other Romanian friends. I chatted wtih them, and although I did not like their somehow aggressive manners, I decided to have a session with Paula simply because she was so gorgeous. The session, however, was nothing special. We stayed in the room for 30 min, we finished, we did DFK, DATY, BBBJ and all. But we just did not have good chemistry. We did not click. Of course YMMV. My rating would be 10/10/6 (face/body/service).

Then I had a session with Kirara, another Romanian. I admit that this is largely my fault. I saw many warning signs and I should have stopped it at that point. But I did not, simply because she was so gorgeous. There was no couch action. We were in the room only for 8 minutes. Everything was mechanical and rushed. As soon as I finished, she put the towel on and stood at the door, wanting me to leave the room immediately. Stay away from this girl. 10/10/3. I doubt if YMMV.

Crazy Travel

05-09-06, 06:59

And finally, after asking you all many question for help, I took courage and booked a flight to frankfurt to feel heaven. I'm already dreaming it and hope week end will arrive soon! I still didn't decided if trying palace or oase as it seems from your reports that oase is a little better. But I'm without car. I hope to be able to make a good report after my coming back:-)

The last advise if someone can help me. Just a doubt. But you need to buy champagne to the girls? I mean, they force you in direct or not direct way? Thank a lot, . Wish me good luck, please. WOW.

Felix Nordic

05-09-06, 15:54

Rain city;
Well its possible she was between 165-170 but not shorter. Its so hard to judge them because of the high heels. But she was great with me. Maybe I was so horny because she was the first girl in theat day that I up-rate her?
Maybe Daniella suffers from this as well and was down-rated because I was stressed and my dick was tired? But there is no doubt about that Daniella is a top beauty!
Im sure we all will give sligthly different ratings depending on chemistry and sometimes the girls have bad days too. In the end its all up to your personal taste. Some like coffee some like tea.

Good luck fellows,
Felix

Round the World

05-09-06, 16:59

Ah, Felix
It was nice to read your report about Jennifer. I really fell for that girl when I met her in 2004 at Palace. I think it was her first time at Palace as she is from the Dusseldorf club area.

She was beautiful, I told her she could be a model. I took her to one of those little arabesque curtained cabins left of the hot tub. We made out then extended DATY leading to a I-could-swear-it-was-real orgasm for her. Very intense session and I was smitten.

I was planning to have her again as my last session. In fact around midnight, she came to me with a puppy dog look and wanting to chat. I tried to explain to her that I wanted her as my final session, but I think she took it as a rejection. I had been waiting for a chance to snag the infamous Marina again, and my turn finally came up. But when I returned to playing field again, Jennifer was gone. My loss. ..

Work has since taken me away from the FKK homelands. But ah, the memories. Seeing that she is back, makes me think it is time for a vacation visit soon. Can anyone comment if she has regular hours there now?

Cheers,
RtW

Whitey2

05-09-06, 20:18

I took courage and booked a flight to frankfurt to feel heaven. I'm already dreaming it and hope week end will arrive soon! I still didn't decided if trying palace or oase as it seems from your reports that oase is a little better. But I'm without car. I hope to be able to make a good report after my coming back:-)

The last advise if someone can help me. Just a doubt. But you need to buy champagne to the girls? I mean, they force you in direct or not direct way? Thank a lot, . Wish me good luck, please. WOW.

Ah, a first-timer. If no car and it's your first time there, stick with Palace at first until you know your way around better. Any taxi can take you there. You don't have to speak German. Just write "FKK Palace" on a piece of paper, in the unlikely event that the driver doesn't speak English. There is also FKK Beach in Frankfurt, if it's still open. Don't know if it is or not.

As for Champagne, there's no obligation whatsoever to buy it or anything else in the way of consumables for the ladies. Don't feel pressured if the issue happens to come up (it never has in my experience). Don't let "sharks" pressure you either. Pick the girl you want, not the girl who's suddenly in your face asking you to go to a room with her (unless she happens to be the one you were looking for anyway).

whitey2

P.S.: Good luck. You'll do fine, and you'll wonder why in the hell the rest of the world isn't set up like the little microcosm you're about to enter.

Wanking

05-09-06, 20:37

Well answered there Whitey.

One thing Ill add is make sure you agree all prices and services with the girl before you go the room. I had this Turkish girl try to get me on extras that we didnt agree to, it shouldnt be a problem but better to be sure.

Id also wear a watch as they may try and stiff you for time. Again most girls should be ok, but like Whitey says there are sneaky ones.

Fred

Toscana

05-10-06, 08:13

Champagne for the girls? No. It is, however, traditional to buy each ISG member you meet at the club on your first visit a bottle of bubbly each.

Now just be sure to post the date when you are going to show up, OK? See you soon.

Euro100

05-11-06, 03:36

Butterfly44

05-11-06, 23:48

Hi Fellow Hobbyists,

Any Monger Sunday May 14 and/or Monday 15 at Frankfurt to go to a FKK, Palace or Oase?

I shall have to leave early on the 16th.

Looking forward to hearing from one or more of you,

With kind regards,

BF

DeepVoid

05-12-06, 19:51

Hello Butterfly,

I will arrive there on the 16th at around 1PM till 7PM then off to the airport. If you are still there we should hook up.

Deep

Hi Fellow Hobbyists,

Any Monger Sunday May 14 and/or Monday 15 at Frankfurt to go to a FKK, Palace or Oase?

I shall have to leave early on the 16th.

Looking forward to hearing from one or more of you,

With kind regards,

BF

DeepVoid

05-12-06, 20:19

Was home at Palace twice last week. Sorry the report is late. I will merge two days at Palace together because they all blend together in my mind.

#1 Nicolletta - Russian fuzzy blond skinny with deep smokers voice. She is fun but not a start.
BBBJ was perfunctory = 5
FS = 7

#2 Yelena - Russian blond fun – Very similar to Nicolletta. Fun but professional.
BBBJ = 7
FS = 8

#3 Lara - Germany skinny blond with a joker tattoo. She LOVES to make jokes and laugh and will hang with you a long time if you are fun. The wait for a room was long but she got into it cause between deep kisses and playing we laughed and laughed. She has only been working at Palace for 3 months.
Looks = 9
BBBJ was GREAT – She did deep throat and took her time = 10
FS = 9 very fun and funny

#4 Angelina - Romania Dark hair 20yrs and is defiantly a trophy girl. I usually know better but what can I say. Sure enough the biggest pleasure was staring at her face and bod during the deed.
Cute looks = 9
BBBJ = 1
FS = 2 She kept her legs pressed together was hard to get in deep.

#5 Anastasia - Black hair Russian. In spite of a slightly plump body she is my all time favorite. She only works during the days but between personality, skill, sexuality she is still my fav.
BBBJ = 10 deep throat
Masterbate on her own while I played with her = 10
FS = 10

#6 Magda See my previous post about Mary Magdalena as she calls herself.
Blond cute. Fun. Overall an 8.

#7 Mellisa from Italy. brown hair Romania cute funny
BBBJ = 7
daty = 6 was sorta into it – At least fake it or be really into like Anastasia.
FS = 9

#8 Anna from Brazil. She exhibited all the signs of being a lot of fun. Tall, full lips thin with mocha skin. We sat and chatted for a while and then kissed a little. She then stopped and asked if we were going to go to a room because she didn’t want to kiss unless I was committed. That was strange but I was ready for a last fling and wanted something different.
BBBJ = 5 She would do great then stop and revert to a HJ for a while
FS = 6 She didn’t use lube and it was my last stop for the night and I just found it irritating. I asked her to put some lube on and she was hesitant and wanted me to finish. EHHHHH – no fun.

I am back on the 16th and then will be at OASE on the 22nd if the weather is good. If the weather is rainy I will stay at Palace. PM me if you will be around

Deep

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Mahaba

05-12-06, 23:32

I would like to recommend Cindy from Poland for the "Provider of the Week" award.

I had a session with her today and it was more than excellent. She had a good attitude, performed well, and just blew my mind, among other organs.

If you have any other candidates, lets hear about them!

Tony70

05-13-06, 15:45

Has anyone ever seen blonde Lithuanian Leyla/Leila at Palace? She is about 1.7M tall slim with 32B cups and used to work at Planet Happy garden last year. She was reported she was working at Palace in March and may be using a different name.

Cheers

Tony70

Mind Snatcher

05-14-06, 16:09

I visited both institutions last week. Much preferred Oase on just about all counts, except perhaps the food.

Palace was quiet, fewer girls to choose from, and many of them seemed downright unfriendly. Very little kissing, most girls seemed to want you to keep your distance. Several were sitting sulkily by themselves and made little attempt to co-operate. Keep your hands to yourself was the response I got from one when I ventured into the bush. First proper attempt was with Clara (Romania). She permitted kissing on the lips but not on the cheeks (!), very good-looking and reasonably friendly, but quick to get down to business once in the room. Charges extra for massage - always a bad sign. At best a so-so experience, but at least she allowed me to take her in a position of my choosing.

Then Samira (German with part-Sri Lankan parentage). Now she was a proper little stunner, just turned 18, offered a Thai massage at no extra charge and made intelligent conversation. The first half-hour was good (mainly mutual massaging, which we both enjoyed). I then agreed to a second half-hour with her, which was probably a mistake. She made it clear that she does not do bbbjs or pretty well anything the other girls do. Refused to do sex in mish or doggie position, only cowgirl, holding firmly onto John Th. with her hand and whipping him out as soon as possible. OK for the Thai massage, the sex bit however was rubbish. Rarely had such a bad experience, certainly never in Oase, where the girls seem much more into deep kissing and bbbjs. For my experiences with the lovely Julia, Jana, Sharna and Camilla in Oase, see that site.

Akibono

05-14-06, 19:23

[QUOTE=Mind Snatcher]I visited both institutions last week. Much preferred Oase on just about all counts, except perhaps the food.

Palace was quiet, fewer girls to choose from, and many of them seemed downright unfriendly. Very little kissing, most girls seemed to want you to keep your distance. Several were sitting sulkily by themselves and made little attempt to co-operate. Keep your hands to yourself was the response I got from one when I ventured into the bush.

I too find that one bad session can spoil one's opinion of a place pretty quick. But I agree that the girls at Palace seem to have developed a tendency to process customers and to behave rudely. However, there are always a few exceptions. In general, the quality of the sessions at all the clubs have deteriorated over the years. The raids and the decline in the economy have cut back on their earnings and the costs have gone up.

Captain America

05-14-06, 21:28

Visited there for the first time last week and, while I've never been to Oase, certainly liked the place. Friendly enough, ambiance is there and the gitls were frinedly enough as long as they seemed to be "looking". Didn't approach any of the ones that hung around in little groups. Recommendation for both of the girls I choose, Jasmin from Puerto Rico, and even better Christina from Hungary. Petite blond that really gave good GFE and worked hard for her money.

Crazy Travel

05-15-06, 23:06

Hi all and first of all really really THANK ALL. If I didn't see this forum I never have known about paradise just 2 hour flight. And after boring you with many question and finding so kind answer. I DECIDED. Ok, now in my mind difficult to put thought in order. So many boobs, ass and nice girl, the paradise. Any way I want to tell my day (Saturday), hope my english will be understandeble.

I got up and in the morning I decided to see RLD. I took a quite good massage from thai girl for usual 30 euro (she tried to tell me 50, and I told "no, bye" and she call me back, "ok 30":-)). Even if we agreed for massange and HJ she decided "can I make you a BBJ? " Of course YES. So the day started good.

I was wandering when took U6 and to go to the paradise. I decided about at 16, when I arrived I saw many cars outside and I was happy to be not alone. I felt so emotion. Entered, at the desk she understood was my first time and she explained me all. I entered. OH MY GOD. What I saw, so many naked girl. Wow wow wow. Incredible. After about half an hour I couldn't decide myself to agree with the many girls come to me (I was a little embarassed.) So I took a 45 minute massage (perfect massage byt the way). After I was taken from a too much aggressive fat girl from Spain (really don't remeber the name) with big tits. It was a bbj with ball licking but I didn't like too much as I felt forced to with her. Then I took a rest. After I saw Maria from Dominica. She told me: "for 50 eruo more I lick your ass". Wow wow wow, I went and she was fantastic. Great but not fuck, I preferred to enjoy all she did with her tongue!

Some rest, cinema and so on and I saw I chinese. So nice and tender I fall in love with her. She smiled me a lot and me to her. But she didn't come to me. So I took courage and I went to her. We waited for the room and it was a really GFE half an hour. Maybe she is not the most beautiful but we felt each other a lot. Normal BBJ and fuck but I still think of her. In the meantime it was 2 o'clock (I need to short my day:-)))) and I decided to try Romanian/Greel girl Cristina that was making really good action in the kino. We went to the room but not so good. She was really interested in monay and so quick BBJ and fuck. Anyway after 4 gilrs at FKK and one at RLD I was a little tired. So I went by taxy to my hotel.

Friends, I know that now I cannot be so detailed like you are able to do, but believe I have so much emotion in my mind that I cannot write in order. It's so super experience. Now I'm only think how to come back (of course I need to refill a little my pocket, ah ah ah). I'm thinking during the week. A flight in the late afternoon and the first in the morning. Just only to go to FKK. And now I look forward to see also Oase. I want to become expert. By the way there were a girl (Paula from romania) really rude, unpolite that was coming so often to bore me. But if one doesn't smile even before going in the room I can imagine inside. You know, I was ripped off so many times from east europe girls that's way this first time I avoided all the super blonde girl. "step by step". There were also a so nice germany girl (don't remeber the name) but I was too tired (and without monay.) after 4 + 1 massage. Friends I also talked to some really nice man. IT WAS PERFECT DAY. Hope happens again and again. I want to discover deep this world.

Thanks you all again.

Toscana

05-16-06, 08:22

That's a good report. Thanks. Took some effort to write, I guess. Nothing like an FKK to bring out all the emotions, huh? :-) Apart from anything else, you described well that wow! sensation that hits you when you first enter. Glad you had a great time.

Don't reject the East European girls out of hand, however. It's far too much of a generalisation to say that, and it would be a crying shame if you were to miss out on some of the great Czech, Polish, Russian etc. performers that you can come across in almost every FKK.

Eagle 5

05-16-06, 17:51

Now I was really messed up from my jet lag. I went to bed at midnight german time (6 pm back home) and woke up at 2 am and couldn't sleep I guess my body thought it was an afternoon nap!hehe.

So what to do, I watched T.V. Finished off the book I was reading (thinner--stephen king) and went to bed at 7 am. Woke up at 9:30 and said what the fuck lets go to Place at opening.

I get there at around 10:30 and a few guys were lingering abouts, I took a tour around and spotted Nicoletta sitting near the pool.

1) Nicoletta, Romanian, blond curly hair, nice slim body, squeaky voice! (cute) was quite pleasant.

Chatted with her a bit and made out, I was so horny for some reason with this girl, I really like morning sex, so off to the VIP room we went.

Gave great BBBJ, not much kissing but stupid me I just wanted to get off for some reason (my decision making was fouled up because of lack of sleep)

So she goes slow and fast for about 20 minutes, I finally couldn't wait and told her I had to CIM which was mind blowing, as you guys can tell CIM is my favorite.

She asked if I wanted anal. I'm not into anal like most guys becuase my last girlfriend just loved anal and we did it all the time so the novelity has worn off. Especially since it was BB anal with my girlfriend at the time.

Also she asked me later on in the day if I wanted to go with her again. I declined because I had a quota of 20 girls to screw in 5 days. Otherwise I most likely would have repeated with her.

I give her 8/10.

2) Alex russian , 27, HOT HOT HOT and sexy. blond, blue squinty eyes, great biceps (from her awesome HJ's). She seemed to be unapporachable and looked sleepy the whole time, so after I rested up I talked to her and she was quite nice (basic english)

Well we go in the room and LFK and DFK, she then proceeds to BBBJ. with lots of sloppy ball sucking and she probed my anus a bit. Then had sex with her a bit, but something strange happened, I was Rock hard but once the condom went on I went limp! FUCK!

Well no problem, Alex to the rescue , she promptly BBBJ and it comes back up, slips on condom fast and we proceed to intercourse. then I feel I was going to come and asked if she could HJ to completion, because she was so good at it. I think my sperm almost hit the ceiling,LOL. All in 28 minutes. Lovely! Do not miss this one, also gives good free samples on the couches.

10/10

3) Blond Polish girl 5"9, can't remember name, hung out with Nicoletta.

This was a mercy fuck, she was quite nice but did not have anyone take her. She actually was quite good in the sack. I did not sperm as Alex had drained me and she asked is it because she wasn't good, I assured her it wasn't her but me (well, alex acutally,hehe). I said Alex had drained me and she seemed more releived then.

7/10

4) Real hot brunette (judy? Jill?--ah who gives a fuck!) German 5"6, long curly hair, tanned, great smile, slim nice natural c cups from Koln.

I wanted to get her but she was hanging with 3 other german girls and I did not want to intrude, finally she was alone and I got her.

Again I was warned not to get German girls but fuck it why not.

No kissing so I decided from the beginning that I was going to CIM.

Her BBBJ skill were quite good and she positioned herself so I had full view of her while she was giving me BBBJ. It was quite nice to be messaging her nice breasts while she was giving me BBBJ, after 15 minutes she asked if I wanted sex, I told her no, that now I will CIM while standing up and jerking into her mouth, I told her this would be an easy 100 euro for her and she laughed.

Shot in her mouth and she sucked me for another minute and spit the contents out, gave me a kiss and off we went to get her funds!

9/10--because she was soooo Hot!

General notes:

I was there during the day (10:30-7), I heard it is hopping there at night but did not want to travel and not have any parking. Can anyone confirm that palace is better at night?

Food was shit.(Suprise, suprise)

They need more plasma T.V.'s there, I was bored shitless in between sessions. Had MTV on, I hate MTV. Even others have said so.

Bar staff were kinda cold, not friendly, but even if they were friendly it wouldn't have added to the experience I suppose.

I liked Oase and World better in terms of facility, will I go back? Maybe if Alex is there in a few months, I will get her for 1 hour next time!.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Timber Tree

05-17-06, 11:31

I liked Oase and World better in terms of facility, will I go back? Maybe if Alex is there in a few months, I will get her for 1 hour next time!.
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Who are you kidding? You know you're coming back for more. That's what I said when I first knew about this FKK. It's addictive and I kept comming back.

Eagle 5

05-17-06, 12:37

Timber Tree:

I am definately going back to Germany for the FKK's! but I meant whether I would go back to FKK PALACE.

I have tentative plans for September with a friend of mine, hopefully the World Cup Hoopla will die off then.

Samurai X

05-17-06, 17:56

Eagle,

I was at PALACE as well at night. Night shift was pretty awsome with many fine looking ladies, including some well-known talents who have been mentioned here, however, there were also many men and it was like a fucking process factory.....

Yes, FKK thing is very very addictive and expensive hobby. I am glad I don't live closed to Germany and Holland (the other hobby - smoke).

Cheers,

Samurai

Timber Tree:

I am definately going back to Germany for the FKK's! but I meant whether I would go back to FKK PALACE.

I have tentative plans for September with a friend of mine, hopefully the World Cup Hoopla will die off then.

DeepVoid

05-17-06, 19:09

Had a shorter layover and wanted to try try something different (more on that later).

Anastasia - I am so addicted to her. She is the best kisser and does deep throat like no other. 10 out of 10.

Vicky - see previous reports. Blond russian and 9/10s as sensual as Anastasia but with a stunning face and body.

Samira - she came by and we talked for a while. She is beautiful but started out telling me the rules, no bbbj, no kissing etc so I passed. I saw a report just posted that I made a good decision. I dont think she will last long compared to the really wonderful girls.

I wanted to try a partytreff or orgy and found this website on another section. http://www.swingerclub-gourmet.de/page_4.htm. they advertise an orgy every day -- 70 - 80 euro. it is 15 minutes by cab from the airport. when i got there there was just one chubby russian girl. the owners are nice. it was a waste. the owner says that friday and saturday nights the place is a mix of pro's and swingers and that there are almost 30 people there. I might try that when the place is alive.

I am getting kind of bored with Palace so I am trying Oase on Tuesday if anyone wants to come by and say hi. PM me and we can meet up.

Ortos

05-17-06, 22:59

Eagle,

Thanks for your superb contributions. Nice style there, mate...

I can confirm that Palace has it's "A" Team in the field after 20.00. The "B" Team during the day and esp in late afternoon aint too bad these days either...

It's definitely true that the girl selection at Palace is quite superior in the night vs day, but night time does bring a different atmosphere, some aspects of which are definetely negative. Too many guys, esp. these days more and more middle eastern/turkish types that some girls do not fancy. Also wait for rooms can often be problematic to mildly bothersome...yet sometimes that is where you collect the best couch action in this club, esp if you select well or are a repeat session partner.

The kino at Palace can be an extremely erotic place to hang out, esp in the night to late night and during inter-session recovery time. Yes there can be good action to watch and directly experience in the Palace kino. Day time also, but more of a show and grope-factory at night...

Bar staff at Palace are always farily reserved to down right surly. Who cares?I would be pretty surly if I worked at the Palace bar day in and day out...

The food in the night is usually the best of all the three FFM clubs, in my opinion...

Ortos

Chaudry

05-17-06, 23:11

Question,

At night time and especialy when a trade fair is on a wide variety of girls are avaible at palace. what about during the day? is it still good or reasonable or just a waste of money to go during the day?

Regards

Chaudry

05-17-06, 23:13

Is it a waste of money to go to place during the day? At night time and during trade fairs the selection is very wide. But during the day is a reasonable or good quality and quantity of girls still available?

Regards

Eagle 5

05-18-06, 00:02

Ortos:

Damn! now this means in september I must visit Palace after 10 pm! hehe.

Ortos

05-18-06, 06:49

As I said just below: The "B" team at Palace, i.e. "day-shift", is not too bad these days. This means it is NOT a waste of time by any means. In fact some very good providers who used to work at Palace in the night shift now work exclusively during the day. The point is that there is a much more vast selection at night. And that can work both ways, positive and negative. It's an altogether different vibe at Palace, literally the differance between night and day. During the day, Palace can be quite laid back...

Ortos

DeepVoid

05-18-06, 15:33

I have been going to Palace twice every 3 weeks for the last 6 months. On the way in I go during the day and then one visit at night. Frankly, I prefer the day shift. It is alot more relaxing, less of a hustle, no waiting for rooms but the best part is that the girls are under less pressure and competition for business. See my previous posts for my "favorites"

As I said just below: The "B" team at Palace, i.e. "day-shift", is not too bad these days. This means it is NOT a waste of time by any means. In fact some very good providers who used to work at Palace in the night shift now work exclusively during the day. The point is that there is a much more vast selection at night. And that can work both ways, positive and negative. It's an altogether different vibe at Palace, literally the differance between night and day. During the day, Palace can be quite laid back...

Ortos

Mind Snatcher

05-21-06, 17:05

There have been a couple of comments on Samira. She is new to the Palace and has made up her own rules of engagement. No this, no that. She is also very attractive. And she is one of the few girls who will sit beside you and talk in a pleasant manner without actually hassling you. Thus it is easy to fall for her; and that's ok if you want a good massage and friendly conversation. But she won't do bbbjs, kissing, or even lie back like a good girl and count the cracks in the ceiling. Her preference in the bedroom is for covered bjs, or she will ride you while firmly holding on to your dick with her hand. You have been warned.

M P Lurker

05-23-06, 18:02

Well man I go for the model look! Daniellas body is close to perfection for me! Very close! She could have had a few more cm but she is really what I ask for in my dreams. Face is a 9 with lovely green eyes. SO I rate her 9,5 in beauty! Pussy looked fine to me even from close distance ;)

Performance was very good, but like you wrote, BBBJ was not top notch! She gave good energy like a romanian latina girl should. But she also had a slight professional attitude probably because she knows her market value very well. Like she insisted on champagne from you, because she knows she can get it. I was also a bit stressed because of my flight 90 minutes later and she was the fourth girl this day! I wish I would have done Daniella to start with and for a full hour!

Maybe next time! :)

Cheers,

Felix

P.s Thanks for the tip on katherina! :) What does she look like?Felix,

We are actually agreed. I think we just misinterpret sometimes.

Daniella was my number one favourite. I ave no complaints at all.

I glad to see you have uprated her beauty.

Daniella did a perfectly fine BBBJ (9 out of 10).

I only mean't there do exist girls with a 10 BBBJ.

but not many. Anastasia, I hear and Linda.

I actually didn't buy champagne despite the suggestion.

She wasn't pushy.

I liked the way Daniella is really into it (everything I wanted to do) and doesn't complain about quite extended fucking. She is very into being licked out DATY. Highly orgasmic which apeals to my warped brain.

If the girl is really into it without acting it makes a big difference to me.

Katerine (not sure of spelling) from Russia is a little taller than Daniella, a little more voluptuous and has the most exquisite pussy you ever saw. Very soft feel to the pussy, not too tight (I actually don't like extremely tight or short pussies where its difficult to get it all in). Blonde hair tied back in ponytail. Shes a showoff because she knows how good she looked. Was into kissing but not the first time I met her. She likes putting on a show for you.

So Katerina is my 2nd favourite.

Hope to hear about your other favorites Felix.

It looks like we are on similar wavelengths.

Crazy Travel

05-23-06, 21:13

Hi friends,

Only to say, I tried for the first time a FKK... and now? Only want to come back and loose enthusiasm for my hobby for example in... italy :-). Where you can go only to one girl without seeign and being most of all ripping off. Hope to come back soon and to try even more FKK.

Beffen1

05-27-06, 03:27

this being my first night in europe, i slept in, the all day rain didn't inspire me to stir until 2 pm, whereupon i went to the schmuck store across the street to buy a euro phone charger for my new razr phone. then i went back to bed. fred called around 3 and said he was going to palace.

i managed to drag my sorry ass up to palace via the u4 u7 and entered around 7pm. there were many more girls than men at that time, and the girls were in a word hot hot hot. never have i seen so impressive a lineup, even minus marina. lots ofcutie [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) types. i soon ran into fred emerging from a room with the polish girl katia. i hibernated in the loser's lounge for a while fending off advances but soon i succumbed to the charms of katia myself. a fine session but nothing earth shattering.

afterwards, i saw julia from romania with her new fake boobage, they look fine. elise was there, as was my old flame daniella, who bumped into katia and i as we went for payday. somehow, a reunion wasn't in the cards, but i am told she will be at world party later today. after a while, a little cutie sat on my lap, julia from russia, and because she looks like an old object of lust from younger days, i went for it, but i bade her wait until i put some food in my stomach. she argued but then agreed. at 10 pm i was first on line for the food and i ate and she went with another guy. about an hour later, she appeared and we went off for a 30 minute romp with about 10 minutes of free makeout time during the wait for a zimmer. julia is quite the kisser and ball licker.

as i watched fred bed girl after girl, i was feeling really inadequate. at around 2 am, fred was ready to go to bed but i was still looking for mrs goodmuschie. a tall model type with large pert c cups and the ass of a 12 year old boy (as fox would say, read tiny) was piquing my interest. as fred and i talked by the dancing pole, lo and behold she came over. catherine is from russia and is a wild trash talker, and after she fondled fred and i simultaneously, i soon found inspiration (hard on) and took her to find a room. she was trying to upsell all the way, i must have a full program triple input come in mouth etc. i said i just want vanilla 50 euro sex and she said that will be 100 if we have to wait for a room. danger danger. against my btter judgement, we did it in the tv room with three other couples. after about 10 minutes we were alone. at first she wouldn't let me kiss her muschi and went straight to the bj. but i a m proud to say i tamed this girl.

after 10 minutes she said we have five minutes. i said your kidding right? she realized i was no newbie. then we fucked in three positions until i was exhausted. she laughed and laid next to me in 69 , i went for the muschi lick again and she agagin demurred but then let me have a taste, that was enough for her, she liked it and said wait a minute, this is goooood, and she opened up and let me wail. soon she was bucking and after 10 minutes of that, she finished. now it was about 25 minutes and we were both spent but she wanted a massage. i told her i would masage her all night but she's only getting 50. ok baby. then we talked and talked as i kneaded her baby buns and her back and neck as she cooed and at the 40 minute mark we went to the lockers and she asked for my handi nummer so she can come to ny. and that's how i tamed the beatiful trash- talking processor.

in short, a great very memorable lineup and only five minutes to get home to excelsior. i think i know where i'm going sunday.

good night.

beffen

Akibono

05-27-06, 05:05

They will soon be calling you Mr. tongue!

Beffen1

06-04-06, 17:22

palace sunday was an easy going affair with dedalus and fred and i ensconsed in the excelsior/monopol complex. of course i slept in and by around 5 pm we were at the palace being delivered in the dedsled. the club was lazy and laid back but showed potential. so far this trip, the friday lineup at palace was the most impressive and this seemed to be just a slightly watered down version of that night. i started with a russian, the details of which i have forgotten. later, fred reminded me that the slim lovely and friendly russian girl chatting us up near the bar and now calling herself oksana was one i raved about in may when she was diana at world. i completely was clueless but was tempted to renew the acquaintance until dedalus told me of the toothy and cool reception he got from her as his first of the day. german tiffany , the leggy tattooed superkisser looks great now as a blonde. hmmm. sasha of ukraine, fred's most vitriolic ripoff girl, even tried to flirt with him again. routard and his friend arrived from oase, and reported that it was dull and uninspiring there.

i again admired romanian julia’s new jubblies, they contrast quite well with the more pendulous pair of her frequent threesome mate carla. i thought back to the sight of the two of them buns up spread open, orally double teaming a lucky guy in the tv raum as i muched on the cookie of the crazy russian barbnie doll krystina. the towering romanian twosome of daniella and elise were also back from their money making trip to fkk world. desert fox was expected this night to commune with his former ex-wife but i imagine he waited one night to avoid the prying eyes of gossip column reporters from the usa.

again i did not session with daniella, who looked especially slim and attractive. dedalus was a good husband though, and got her a slice of her preferred cake from the excellent buffet and stood guard over it dutifully until she completed two or three more rooms. again, she was too busy for me, i guess i am just too high maintenance. the kino was very quiet, populated mainly by sleeping mongers and a pair of nattering domenicanas who interviewed each entrant as to their desire for company. at one point, as ded and i sat on the couch under the only open window, the seat near the dancing pole, beffen's headquarters, we were approached by a firm large cupped hard body who looked like nina of de wallen facially. she sat between us and soon she got me going with her kisses and caresses under my robe. it was an ok session, this polish milf, ? name? had great pride in her admittedly prodigious oral skills, but took mild affront to my not conforming to the “normal” by not finishing in 20 minutes. oh, i wish marina were here. i quit.

oh well, the second serving of food is here and it is time to stuff face. i spent the rest of the evening ogling [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) like paola, julia, and carla, and others, and watching fred consume his last night’s consignment of booty like a camel storing up water for a long desert journey. by 2:30 am, i had had enough and since i needed to wake by 9 am to catch the train to giessen to meet routard for the ride to golden time, i called it a night and grabbed a cab, leaving fred and ded to close the place. i guess i am getting old. the cabby made an extra circle around the block to inflate his 10 euro fare by euro 1.50 and then gave me his card for the future when i told him i was a frequent visitor. fat chance ripoff. no tip for you!

DeepVoid

06-06-06, 00:44

Hello fellow mongers. I will be at Palace from 11am till about 7PM this friday (June 9) . PM me if you will be there. We can say hi and gossip about the girls.

Deep

Oceanview

06-06-06, 14:55

Well fellow mongers, I have to report my most recent visit to "heaven" was more like "hell". As you may know I have been a big supporter of this FKK on the boards here for quite a while. Last night was unfortunately not very much fun. Maybe part of it was that I was not feeling 100 percent but it started off with me entering the large room and sitting at the upper bar. The two ladies on the other side of the bar smiled at me, and one eventually asked if I wanted to sit between them. I had just gotten there so I said that I was too lazy right now (and I had yet the opportunity to check out the lineup tonight) but to be somewhat friendly, I told the one girl she was welcome to sit next to me. She was from dusseldorf, thin, short blonde hair, that was tied in a pony tail in the back. She had some scarring on her face but not too bad for a woman in her 30's. She immediately became very touchy, kissed me, and then reached in my pants and stroked the johnson to full attention. Then she became very pushy to go in to the TV room. I said I wanted to relax a bit and the conversation got uglier. She demanded that I go to the room and that actually my 30 minutes had started when I kissed her?????!!!!! Go figure that. I obviously told her that I iwas turned off and I wouldn't be partaking of her services. She said she was going to the office. than the mam-san came out and asked me to settle for 25 euro for her sake (and not the *****'s sake).. so I capitulated, like a gentleman that I am, and that was it. To say the least, I was upset for the rest of the night and ti affected my pleasure and performance, which pissed me off even further.

I ask the mongers out there.. what was correct in this incident? The mamsan said that once there is contact there is an "expectation" that the girl will get money.? Interested in all opinions.

Moving on, I had two more girls but, you know, it just seemed like all the girls are in a hurry now to get my rocks off with no foreplay in the back room. I tried to slow things down with both girls but they wanted to get it done. I said the fee was for 30 minutes but that never sunk in. Things have changed in this club.. There is a serious imbalance of too many men and not enough women. THEY KNOW IT so obviously they are in it for the VOLUME and now the QUALITY IS DETERIORATING. This is a shame because they are truly beauties, but, what is the use? I would rather jerk off than to get in to a room and have a woman milk me like a cow!!!

So my opinion of this place has changed for the worse.

I am looking for some recommendations on other FKK's in the area near the airport, where is where I ususually stay.

Thanks to all feedback.

Wanking

06-06-06, 16:05

Oceanview I totally agree.

I had a similar experience with Czech Linda (big tits) in 2005. I was asleep on a couch, and she came over and woke me up and started kissing me. Then when i told her I didnt want the session then, she went balistic, so I payed her the €50 and then fucked her later that night, and it was an ok session.

Last 2 times there, nearly all my sessions were too rushed at night but good in the day time. Downside is that the day girls are not as good looking.

I think Palace is way too commerical now, and thats why I now venture off the beaten track to places like Wuppertal and Dorsten (both near Dusseldorf) where the value is much better.

Ortos

06-06-06, 17:21

oceanview,

first thanks for taking the time to write your (bad) experience and to sollicit comments from others.

based on your description, it sounds like you were definitely taken advantage of, but before we can make a definitive analysis, you must clarify one point: who actually initiated the foreplay and kissing? was it you or the girl? if it was the girl, then you should have stuck to your guns and explained this to the lady from the front desk. i am reading between the lines here a bit, but a couple of points come clear to me:

--you were involved with a german girl, who tried to manapulate you into a session.

--she surmised that you were not fkk-savoy, perhaps because you did not speak german. (i believe the type of manipulation you experienced would have been much less likely to have occurred had you been a german-speaker).

--during the initial kissing and foreplay at the bar, if indeed the girl initiated it, you should have made clear to her that this activity is of her own initiation and that you were not prepared at this moment to go to the room. did you let her continue stroking you for more than a minute or two and mislead her? if not, when she got a bit stroppy you should yourself have immediately announced that you wished to take the matter to the front desk to settle the dispute.

what is this stuff about being a gentleman all about? come on, man! if she is trying to rip you off, then you should, albiet in a gentlemanly manner, argue forcefully that you were just sitting there minding your own business at the bar, when this girl comes up to you starts kissing and fondling you for a minimal amount of time and then you told her to stop because you were not yet ready to fully commit to a room session. simple. if you buckled in too fast, then you basically threw away the 25e by your own penchant to be "a gentleman."

my advice is that you should try to learn from this experience and next time:

a) be wary of german girls. not all are like this, but many are. i include here girls like the afore-mentioned czech linda who is really more german than czech or anything else because she has been living and growning up in germany far longer than in the czech republic. think of wine grown in germany, but based on a foreign grape...

b) do seek out and enjoy extra-mural pre-session couch action (lying in the kino is a great place to get this at palace), but do always be clear and communicative about your intentions, or in this case, lack of intentions to take matters to the room. remember, technically you are not committed to session if you have not let the girl get her mouth on your lower sex organ! perhaps you should have communicated --if necessary in private conversation-- this better to the front desk lady: she only kissed me once on the lips and touched me down below for a few seconds, and she initiated it, not me! i also think that if you had tactfully said to the lady that if you were forced to pay anything to this scam-artist you the club palace would be loosing a costumer and you would be spreading news of this bad experience all over the internet. that may have made the lady more sympathetic to your position; and it is well known that the desk does more often side with the male german guests...

c) do learn some german, it will improve your whole expereince, believe me.

don't be so quick to condemn this or any other club. we all have these bad experiences from time to time. just have to learn from them and get back on the horse... palace still has some very great girls working there; you just have to learn how to play this field better and to spot potential traps before you completely fall into them.

my two cents...

ortos

Mike De H

06-06-06, 18:30

I ask the mongers out there.. what was correct in this incident? The mamsan said that once there is contact there is an "expectation" that the girl will get money.? Interested in all opinions.

Dont worry about others opinions. Its all right for others to lecture and say "You should have done this" or "You should have done that". You were the person under pressure and I dont know what I would have done under the circumstances.

I said I would never go to Palace again last November when I saw all this comming. Experienced mongers fall foul of this. German speaking or not.

I have notread a complaint recently where the management did anything other than ask the punter to pay in a dispute, even though sometimes it is at a discounted rate.

Linda is still working. Sasha from Ukrane is still working, the management know about these women and they do nothing about it. they dont have to, they know it.

Asking you to pay for Mama-san's sake is either lazy (or the girls are the boss now not the management.)

In short, go to Oaze, where that kind of treatment happens much less often but you can still get there fast from the airport.

People need to vote with their feet.

Ortos

06-06-06, 18:51

Hi Mike,

I guess you are making a veiled comment about my post just below, when you say people are free to lecture about you should have done this or that, or whatever. I was not trying to lecture but just point out, as I tried to do with you (obviously in vein), that this kind of thing can happen in any club to any monger, but that it more often happens by German girls who try to manipulate non-German speaking guests who they perceive as being not very street-smart, etc.

I would point out that this kind of thing can/does happen at Oase and World with more or less equal frequency to Palace.

I have to take issue with some of your comments, since I consider myself a relatively experienced mongers (but still prone to odd mistakes and miscalculations) and I certainly would not "steer clear" of Palace. I know some other equally experienced (if not more exprerienced than me) mongers who also are quite find of Palace.

I disagree strongly with your depiction of Palace it's policy of arbitrating disbutes; and I have personally witnessed the front desk telling girls to get stuffed when they tried to cheat innocent male visitors. I really don't know where you come off accusing the Palace management of siding with the girls 100% of the time... How many times have you been there anyway???

It is true that certain girls like Czech Linda know how to play the game and perhaps bend the rules a bit to their advantage, but if you show these girls you are also rule-smart and know how to play the game yourself, then you can have some really great sessions. I get along great with Linda and consider her a great session partner when I'm in the mood...

I was certainly not trying to lecture anybody, just giving my perspective, as you are welcome to give yours. But I would remind people not to just buckle in at the first sign of pressure and fork over money to a rip-off artist. Be firm and clear about what happened and I think you will be dealt with fairly. Also, alot of the time, the red flags are out there and we mongers must also take some responsibility for either selecting bad partners or perhaps sometimes abusing the couch action ourselves...

I am not passing judgement on Oceanview and not suggesting that he abused the situation at all. How could I? I was not there. But how long did he let this girl kiss and fondle him before he made it clear he had no intention to go to the room. If for just a minute, then the comments I made above stand: Stick to your guns and argue that she initiated it and don't pay. If, on the other hand it went on for many minutes, well...maybe the girl had a point, no?

Anyway, I believe, Mike, that you blame the club, just like many tennis players blame their racket. I imagine that if you re-visited Palace as the more experienced monger you no undoubtedly are, you would be able to weed out the bad apples on sight and enable yourself to have a great time here.

I really think this is still a top club and you are just as likely to meet problem girls at Palace as you are at Oase. I've heard from one our mutual friends, a most experienced monger with very discerning tastes that Palace is at it's best now, as recently as last Friday. Perhaps he might chime in here and give us a comment about the top girl line-up he experierenced a few days ago at Palace???

Cheers, Mike. Mate, don't be so bitter about Hausen...It's a great club...

Ortos

Dedalus

06-06-06, 20:05

Hey Guys,

I have to chime in here with a defense of Palace. Actually I think it is pretty strong at the moment with some serious talent.

I do not doubt that Oceanview got screwed (figuratively, that is) and this is a shame. No excuse for it and if you have a name of this scammer, then we can spread the word and cut into her business. But as to the ladies who work the desk, I think that they are mostly pretty helpful and they do not usually tolerate this kind of crap. Actually if you told her that "Miss So and So" basically accosted you and grabbed your whatchamacallit without an invite, then the ones that I know would have stood behind you. If not, then Mike is right; you vote with your feet.

I had a situation with a former favorite of mine last year and the same people who work the desk now wanted to intervene on my behalf. I waved them off and compromised with the girl in question. Afterwards the I was told by the management that this girl would be spoken to, that they were sorry and wanted to know if there was anything that they could do. I am a good customer at Palace but I am not there every day or even every week. Still, they treat me like a VIP.

I will admit that there are some sour apples in that club, just like there are in any club. I have seen a few pull this garbage on some people. I have also seen some guys let a girl start a blow job and then break it off and decide not to do a session. In fact I saw this last Friday in the Kino. The guy argued about it, but the girl was entitled to her 25 euros.

If I am not ready for a session, then I tell that to the girl up front. If she still tries to fondle Dedalus Jr. as part of her sales job, then it is her problem if I do not session with her. I never kiss a girl that I do not know unless I am certain that I will take her to a room.

I am sorry that you got hosed Oceanview, but Palace is not a bad place right now. In fact it may be the best of the big three. Off the top of my head, the names of girls like Julia, Delilah, Georgia(or Carla), Kathrin, Dilara, Cindy, Maria (Yes, ST. THAT Maria.), Laura, Angelina and Tiffany are gracing Palace on a regular basis. And there are a few others who buddies of mine are swearing by. I could also provide a list of about 6 girls who are to be avoided, but again, this is the case in all of the Big Three.

Here's wishing you better luck next time,

Dedalus

Ffmbud

06-07-06, 00:38

Well did a quick 4 hour visit to Palace the other night and immediately chatted up Linda. Her tits look alot nicer hanging than they do on her then when she's on her back but a great BBBJ and various positions, not rushed. Well worth the experience. Nothing like watching her tits in action while she's going CG on you, or doggy while you can view them from the mirror.

Later Julia (of Romania) with her new tits convinced me for a session but, she's a consummate pro in attitude. Don't touch my tits, don't do this, don't do that. When the session was over with 10 mins to spare, she wanted to rush out and wouldn't even allow a 5 min decompression time. I would strongly avoid Julia.

Viagrant

06-07-06, 04:19

I told the one girl she was welcome to sit next to me. She was from dusseldorf, thin, short blonde hair, that was tied in a pony tail in the back. She had some scarring on her face but not too bad for a woman in her 30's. She immediately became very touchy, kissed me, and then reached in my pants and stroked the johnson to full attention. Then she became very pushy to go in to the TV room. I said I wanted to relax a bit and the conversation got uglier. She demanded that I go to the room and that actually my 30 minutes had started when I kissed her?????!!!!! Go figure that. I obviously told her that I iwas turned off and I wouldn't be partaking of her services. She said she was going to the office. than the mam-san came out and asked me to settle for 25 euro for her sake (and not the *****'s sake).. so I capitulated, like a gentleman that I am, and that was it. To say the least, I was upset for the rest of the night and ti affected my pleasure and performance, which pissed me off even further.

I ask the mongers out there.. what was correct in this incident? The mamsan said that once there is contact there is an "expectation" that the girl will get money.? Interested in all opinions.

Thanks to all feedback.

Oceanview,
Sorry to hear that you got taken advantage of. I must say though that one of the first things I learned on these pages, before I ever went to an FKK, was that if you fool around with a girl on a sofa, you are tacitly agreeing to have a session with her. This girl took it to the extreme as you were at the bar, and not on a sofa. However, if a girl gets next to me *anywhere* in an FKK and starts to fondle me, kiss me, etc., and I am not interested in a session, I *immediately* tell her, "Sorry, I am not interested in going to a room right now". They have always stopped and moved on.

Don't let it sour you on the whole FKK experience or even on The Palace. Not all the women are like that one.

Regards,
V.

Mike De H

06-07-06, 18:08

Hey Guys,

I have to chime in here with a defense of Palace. Actually I think it is pretty strong at the moment with some serious talent.

I had a situation with a former favorite of mine last year and the same people who work the desk now wanted to intervene on my behalf. I waved them off and compromised with the girl in question. Afterwards the I was told by the management that this girl would be spoken to, that they were sorry and wanted to know if there was anything that they could do. I am a good customer at Palace but I am not there every day or even every week. Still, they treat me like a VIP.

Hi Deds, sorry to miss you this weekend. Now about Palace, when you and I were there last year, you could see I hated the place and it wasnt just one stinky girl and a rip-off, it was the whole deal.

My point is though, that following a complaint, the customer ALWAYS seems to end up paying anyway don't you agree? THATS what I think the problem is. Just look at this thread for evidence; and look at (for instance) what happened with Fred and Sasha, he got no quater from management and he never complains about Girls and he is a big regular. Yes, the girls are spoken to, but I think these girls are the ones with the correct passsports and Visas, so their attitude is "to hell with the club".

Yes, there are good girls etc, etc, none that I would fancy though, but I have made my point regarding the complaints not properly upheld and I dont see the need to argue with supporters of the club taking up server space. people can read what is written and decide for themselves who to believe.

Can I also point out though, that you ARE treated as a VIP at Palace and Oase, and your treatment is very different from others, but you are a regular and a nice guy, who speaks excellent Deutsche. Its a big difference at those places.

Dedalus

06-08-06, 01:11

Hi Deds, sorry to miss you this weekend. Now about Palace, when you and I were there last year, you could see I hated the place and it wasnt just one stinky girl and a rip-off, it was the whole deal.

My point is though, that following a complaint, the customer ALWAYS seems to end up paying anyway don't you agree? THATS what I think the problem is. Just look at this thread for evidence; and look at (for instance) what happened with Fred and Sasha, he got no quater from management and he never complains about Girls and he is a big regular. Yes, the girls are spoken to, but I think these girls are the ones with the correct passsports and Visas, so their attitude is "to hell with the club".

Yes, there are good girls etc, etc, none that I would fancy though, but I have made my point regarding the complaints not properly upheld and I dont see the need to argue with supporters of the club taking up server space. people can read what is written and decide for themselves who to believe.

Can I also point out though, that you ARE treated as a VIP at Palace and Oase, and your treatment is very different from others, but you are a regular and a nice guy, who speaks excellent Deutsche. Its a big difference at those places.

Hey Mike,

Fair points, all of them. And you are right. Most conflicts that happen between clients and ladies will end up being settled on the girl's side. But this is the case in any of the big clubs.

Now what happened to Oceanview sounds strange because, from the way he described the situation, it is hard for me to imagine the management standing behind the girl. The deal-sealer would be if she had started a blow-job, but he says that this did not happen. I am pretty sure that he could have argued his way out of not paying for that one.

BTW, Mike. I did find one last Friday that I think would make you a hap hap happy man. I will be posting a report on Delilah soon. I am sooo behind on my reporting.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Akibono

06-08-06, 03:40

I have noticed a marked increase in disputes with the ladies at both Palace and Oase. The quality of experience at both of these clubs is down from a few years ago. I would still visit both of these clubs, but I am considering venturing to GT the next time I am in germany. I think the economy and the raids have made earning a nice living more difficult. It's pretty costly for the girls in terms of fees if they don't have enough sessions. Plus, I think the number of good paying regulars is down. These are the bread and butter sessions for the ladies.

Brings back fond memories of the old Atlantis where there I never observed a dispute with the ladies.

Routard

06-08-06, 12:00

my not fkk virgin anymore pal had already visited world on saturday evening, oase on sunday afternoon, and here we are at palace on sunday evening. we met again beffen, irish pussy man and dedalus as well as a few non isg members. there were about 30-40 girls that night, and as much customers. later at night, there was even a complete american football team for the after game. we had already had a few sessions at oase, so we decided with my buddy to fully relax before. we went to the hammam area and signed in for a complete service. this was an excellent experience. we were completely washed and rubbed in the hammam, got a cup of tea before an excellent therapeutic massage. nothing sexual, but still i preferred to get the massage from the nice german girl instead of the guy. we then had dinner and were ready for sex!

i had already spotted sylvia. yes, she was the perfect picture of a blonde top model. i’m not impressed by blonde beauty. but she had something very special, hard to define. was it her charming smile or her smiling eyes? i decided to go for a session with her in between the hammam and the massage. she has a great attitude and an excellent service. however, i didn’t have my orgasm, and couldn’t stay longer as i had an appointment for the therapeutic massage. she was disappointed to see me leaving without orgasm. i said to her that i felt the same for her. she apologized, telling me that she already had 3 orgasms that night and that a fourth orgasm was not possible with me. wow! i definitely needed to go back with her. but she warned that she could only get orgasms with customers through daty. that sounded ok to me!

after the massage and dinner, i went for a session with a young petite romanian girl. once again, i prefer not to give her name as the experience was again bad. it started completely wrong, condom and lub was ready and she started straight away with a strong handjob to get an erection. i was not ready to get my fourth bad experience of my fkk tour within two days. so i gently took her hand away from my dick, laid her down on the bed and started softly a relaxing massage. it worked, she became more relaxed, and i started to kiss her body. after more than 20 minutes, she was fully relaxed with me and i started sex on a very slow rhythm. i felt that she became wet and that she seemed to enjoy it. things were going great. but then suddenly she looked into my eyes and begged me to stop: ”stop making me love. you can fuck any hole you want from me but stop making me love”. i’m not the kind of guy that would take her word, turn her on and fuck her hard on doggy style. i lost my erection, apologized if i’ve hurted her in any way and offered her to go back to the lockers to pay. she panicked and didn’t want me to leave the room without orgasm. but i just dressed up and took her hand to go. i paid her and was determined to forget her very quick, but she wasn’t the kind of ripp off artist that leaves right after being paid. she managed to block me in a corridor and was determined to talk this out. she looked straight in my eyes and opened up her heart. it was a long talk, and i remember a few strange sentences like: ”even if you come to this club, i envy your wife”. but i fully understood what she needed to say. she had no other option in life than this job, agreed to sell her body, but not her soul. i’ve touched her soul, in this was her border line she didn’t want to cross. it was her way of dealing with the emotional issue related to the job. i had the tears in my eyes, and took her in my arms. call me naïve or sentimental, but i know she was sincere with me.

i decided not to take any risk anymore, and finished the night again with sylvia. she was proud when she managed to give me an orgasm. she asked me to come back earlier next time in order to give her also an orgasm. a true recommendation.

all in all, a relaxing night. palace appeared to be the favorite club of my not anymore fkk virgin pal. and i had to agree indeed. i always preferred oase and world, but this time, palace had the best line-up and the best atmosphere. we said goodbye to the other isg members and arranged a meeting with beffen to continue together our trip to goldentime.

Akibono

06-08-06, 14:25

After the massage and dinner, I went for a session with a young petite Romanian girl. Once again, I prefer not to give her name as the experience was again bad. It started completely wrong, condom and lub was ready and she started straight away with a strong handjob to get an erection. I was not ready to get my fourth bad experience of my FKK tour within two days. So I gently took her hand away from my dick, laid her down on the bed and started softly a relaxing massage. It worked, she became more relaxed, and I started to kiss her body. After more than 20 minutes, she was fully relaxed with me and I started sex on a very slow rhythm. I felt that she became wet and that she seemed to enjoy it. Things were going great. But then suddenly she looked into my eyes and begged me to stop: ”Stop making me love. You can fuck any hole you want from me but stop making me love”. I’m not the kind of guy that would take her word, turn her on and fuck her hard on doggy style. I lost my erection, apologized if I’ve hurted her in any way and offered her to go back to the lockers to pay. She panicked and didn’t want me to leave the room without orgasm. But I just dressed up and took her hand to go. I paid her and was determined to forget her very quick, but she wasn’t the kind of ripp off artist that leaves right after being paid. She managed to block me in a corridor and was determined to talk this out. She looked straight in my eyes and opened up her heart. It was a long talk, and I remember a few strange sentences like: ”Even if you come to this club, I envy your wife”. But I fully understood what she needed to say. She had no other option in life than this job, agreed to sell her body, but not her soul. I’ve touched her soul, in this was her border line she didn’t want to cross. It was her way of dealing with the emotional issue related to the job. I had the tears in my eyes, and took her in my arms. Call me naïve or sentimental, but I know she was sincere with me.

Sounds like you got the ulitimate GFE experience! We often forget how difficult this job is for the girls.

Oceanview

06-08-06, 14:49

Thanks for all the feedback on my bad experience. We all have opinions and I respect all input. Women are like pizza, there are great pizzas and bad pizza's, but even the bad ones are pretty good. So after additional thought, I think I might try to back and fuck this girl, just to set the record straight. The real coup will be to see if she will negotiate a 25 Euro deal since she already fleeced me for the other half!

I will check out Oase, but, right now I am in Munich and this weekend I shall partake of the flowers of the Colliseum in Augsburg. The last time I was there it was a mind blowing experience. Nicer club than Palace and the girls are very, very, friendly and absolutely gorgeous!

thanks again to all responses.

ocean

Wanking

06-08-06, 15:25

I think I might try to back and fuck this girl, just to set the record straight. The real coup will be to see if she will negotiate a 25 Euro deal since she already fleeced me for the other half!

I think you should skip her, and just move on Dude. If the session turns bad, then it will really fuck with your head. Seriously theres no shortage of paid pussy out there.

Oceanview

06-08-06, 17:11

Wan - yes, you are right. I must have had a brain fart. Not wortht the trouble.

Willa1

06-10-06, 15:13

First of all, thanks to you guys for the great 'preparation'. Without the key pieces of advice (the 'how the FKK works' the hints on the 'right girls', take your time to scope the rooms, let the girls know up front if you are ready, take control of the experience, etc.) - I could easily see how a trip to the Palace could have been a disaster - but it was the opposite!

First - I am an FKK virgin & a mongering 'beginner' (strike one)- I have had some excellent experieces in Monterrey & good escort experiences in Hamburg- but nothing compares to the FKK Palace experience. I only speak English (strike two). Got to the Palace about 11:30 PM last Thursday night (work really is a pain! ) and the place was busy, but not crowded (about 40 women, equal amount of men? ). A good crowd of 'unattached' women, walked around for about 10 minutes checking out the rooms before finally settling for a seat at the bar to survey the place. Quickly picked out Linda - incredible body! Less than two minutes later a thin, short hair blond came up, positioned herself between my legs & started what I later learned to be the 'script' (Hi, I'm___, how are you, where are you from) in German. I politely explained that I only speak English - she did not loose a beat -and started again in English. I was very relieved that I wouldn't have to use sign language for the night! We talked for a few minutes, she started the massage through the towel, I explained that I was just getting in the mood - not ready yet, she understood, quick kiss on the cheek, promised to come back later. Again - your coaching was RIGHT ON.

About 10 minutes later - made eye contact with who I thought was Linda & she promptly came over. Turned out to be her - she has an incredible body. Went through the script, talked for about 5 minutes & then she popped the question - I explained that this was my first time here - a smile came across here face & I thought - problem. Turned out she was OK - we went to the rooms sat on the couches to wait for a room to open - some mild 'roaming hands' a little conversation, then on to the room. She gives an incredible BBBJ - had to stop her - or it would have been a quick session - as it turns out, the session was OK - but not great - about 20 minutes - somewhat mechanical cowgirl (but got to love the way her tits bounce.)- and a quick exit. Not true love - but good first experience.

Showered, new towel, back to the bar to relax & and prepare for the next session. Couple of girls approached (all spoke English) - finally settled on a slender dark hair Brazilian. Something in the way she smiled & her eyes. OK conversation (my broken spanish, her porteguese/english/german), but more relaxed slow paced session. Good BJ, no kissing (bad), & positioned her leg to prevent full penetration in cowgirl, so flipped her to mish, and completed. Another 20 minutes, overall OK.

The thing that made the evening though was the final experience. Blond Polish girl, slim, 167 cm in heels, light freckles, enhanced tits (but good looking), great eye contact, good conversationalist (name began with a C)! Spent 20 minutes on the couch - incredible - DFK, touching all over! Got into the room, some more slow petting, kissing before she worked down to little will & a great BBBJ - eye contact was great! When I signalled I was ready, she rolled over & offered her body - started with more DFK, worked my way down to her tits - she offered DATY - but I wasn't sure - so started the general session - she was incredibley responsive - it was definitely GFE. Relaxed on the bed for a few minutes- then got up to leave. I realized that I had run over by about 5 minutes - but she only asked for the 50. She was definitely a keeper. And I probably pulled a 'neophyte' mistake & gave her 75. Sorry guys.

Anyway - it was about 2: 30 AM, my flight was at 9 - so I reluctantly left. My general assessment is WOW - not having experienced FKK's (or anything remotely similar), I was truly impressed and will return (good thing I don't get to Germany too often - it could become habit forming! ). I can see where regulars would notice a decline in intimacy - and can see where good preparation & knowing the good providers & avoiding the bad ones is key. But overall - it was a great experience. I promise WHEN I made the next trip I will remember names & be a better contributor. Thanks for your help!

Will

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

DFWdude

06-14-06, 14:29

ButtLover

06-14-06, 15:51

Hello,

I have asked several girls for public sex in the sofas near the bar-very very public but they have refused!

I think the cinima is a little to dark for me.

Regards,

Buttlover

Dedalus

06-14-06, 17:46

This report is loooooong overdue. It has been 2 months since my visit but I have been too busy to post. Anyway....I cant remember the names of the girls, but I had 3 awesome expieriences. The last being the best.
The first was with a dark haired girl about 19-20 yo, if I remember she was from Romania. We actually went into the cinema and did the deed. She hung out with a blonde, I think her name was Paula? Her friend was very cute so a couple of hours later I did the deed with her. She had a very tight box.
Finally, was a dark haired Italian girl. She was the best and really got into it with lots of moaning and DFK. Again did the deed in the cinema.

To be honest, I kind of really liked banging these chick in the open cinema. Kind of made me feel like a porn star....What other FKK clubs is open public sex possible. Either in Germany or elsewhere...

Hey DFW,

The dark-haired Romanian was probably Angelina. Sexy little thing, she is! Not sure who the Italian would be but honestly, she may have not been so truthful with her country of origin. Not too many Italian girls are working the FKKs at the moment in Frankfurt, if any.

Open sex in the FKKs is no problem. Most of the mid to large sized clubs have a Kino and it is not out of the ordinary to see some live couch action at places like World or Oase. Golden Time will have some of this as well. Babylon (back in its glory days) use to have alot of open action.

I remember once a few years ago when the owner of Oase was at the bar ranting about there not being enough open sex at his club. He pretty much talked some dude into having a session at the bar with a girl and I think that he even paid for it. Interesting, since Oase is the club where you are the most likely to see some non-Zimmer action.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Henio

06-15-06, 02:14

Hey DFW,
Not sure who the Italian would be but honestly, she may have not been so truthful with her country of origin. Not too many Italian girls are working the FKKs at the moment in Frankfurt, if any.
Hi Deda,

Is Biene still making rounds at Palace? She has always claimed Sicilian origin. Still get nightmares over the condom breakage incident with her at Atlantis some years ago (never been so happy to pass on the anal offer though). Dunno it she's the one DFWdude reports as she is not known to be the most passionate DFKer, more of a PSE, but still a fun gal by all measures.

Chivaz

Dedalus

06-15-06, 06:12

Hi Deda,

Is Biene still making rounds at Palace? She has always claimed Sicilian origin.

Chivaz

Hey Chivaz,

I have not seen Biene since Feb. Also she has not had dark hair for some time. She has been a blond since sometime last year. Before that it was red.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Qubei

06-15-06, 10:21

Dedalus

06-15-06, 19:50

First of all thanks for all great reports, have gotten alot of info reading these forums. Have been to Palace once and the one girl i can remember and recommend is Charlie, no DFK but great "pornstar" experience. Anyone know if she still works there?

I thinking about a little tour of the three FKK's in the Frankfurt area. Does all the good regular girls go on vacation on a specific time? Anyone think i might miss alot of them if i go in the beginning of August? Also is it possible to call a club and ask if a specific girl is working?

Hey,

Charlie was seen at Palace last week. Hard to pin her location down, though.

You can call about a girl. Sometimes the information you get is good, and sometimes it is not. They may not know if a girl is working until her shift actually starts. Also, this is when speaking German really does help. You tend to get better and more acurate information "auf Deutsch" then in English from the folks who answer the phone.

Cheers,

Dedalus, also a Charlie fan.

Henio

06-15-06, 22:23

Does all the good regular girls go on vacation on a specific time? Anyone think i might miss alot of them if i go in the beginning of August? You may miss some of them, but there is a steady turnover of girl, and at any given time, there will be enough of them. I think tales of girls leaving for summer vacation in July or August are a little exaggerated at times. Granted you won't find 80 girls at Oase as you might in November, but there is still enough to go around. I actually think July and August are some of the best time to visit Oase and World. Great weather, hanging by the pool, BBQ going on etc. Great time to relax and have fun in between.

Palace might however suffer a bit over high summer, not only because girls are vacationing, but also that some of them may relocate to a working place where there is outdoors as the clients tend to prefer clubs with outdoors facilities in the middle of summer.

Still I remember couple of visit to Palace in late July and August where selection was quite ok.

Chivaz

Samurai X

06-17-06, 17:26

Hello,

I was at PALACE last week and the week before (2 days each), and I might have come across with this Charlie, but I have no idea what she looks like. Could you describe what she looks like?

Also, I forgot her name, but what is the name of this german blode who has a hearing aid?

Thanks for your help.

Hey,

Charlie was seen at Palace last week. Hard to pin her location down, though.

You can call about a girl. Sometimes the information you get is good, and sometimes it is not. They may not know if a girl is working until her shift actually starts. Also, this is when speaking German really does help. You tend to get better and more acurate information "auf Deutsch" then in English from the folks who answer the phone.

Cheers,

Dedalus, also a Charlie fan.

Dedalus

06-17-06, 18:22

Hello St. Ortos,

I did not have a session with Charlie on this trip but I do know her from back in the day when she was Janni. From an earlier report of mine:

"...Her name is JANNI and she is very charming. Her body type is similar to Marina’s. She speaks some English but clearly felt more comfortable with German. I wisked her off to a room and after a 10 minute wait with much groping we finally got down to business. Gents, this lady is a find. The girl knows sex and knows how to use that body of hers. Great BBJ, 69, good mix of GFE and wild porn sex. Very high repeat factor!..."

name: Janni
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,75 m
figure: slender, B/C-breast
origin: dutch/german
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercing: A rose behind her right shoulder
service: Super. great bbbj, Kisses but without tongue
other: Usually hangs out at the small bar close to the entrance
location: Palace usually works the 2nd calendar week of each month with a few exceptions.

Not sure if this is the same Ambra but it may well be. Sorry...

Saw neither hair nor hide of either Diana. Both attractive, neither grand sessions.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Hey Sam,

Here is an old description of "Janni" who is now Charlie. Also you can see some pics of her on the Palace website.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Slamfestx

06-19-06, 00:49

First, a note of thanks to all of you who have taught me all I need to know about the FKK experience, so I knew what to expect and how to behave. Also, were it not for this guide, I would have never heard of FKK, and would have lived the rest of my life in the darkness (although now I will live in torture since it will be a while before my travels will take me back to Deutschland...)

Anyway, armed with all the info I learned from you guys, (including directions!), I made my way to Palace, not knowing whether I was going to be disappointed due to my high expectations. Obviously, I was not... I was there the week the World Cup started, so I was afraid that the place would be overflowing with tourists. Fortunately, the fans kept to their game, and left Palace to its fans. I arrived around 5pm, there were about 30 women lounging around and only 10 men. The decor of the place, the quality of the women, and the whole permissive atmosphere made me think I was in heaven. I had a smile on my face that I could not wipe out, and perhaps this is why every woman who came to talk to me asked me whether this was my first time (it must have been written all over my forehead).

Following the wise words of the senior members, I was intent on not jumping at the 1st opportunity that came by. I was initially approached by a stunning Russian, who offered me a session with her Ukrainian friend, but the fact that she started with an up-sell made turned me off. I sat and admired the unbelievable quality of the ladies. Next, Paula approached me: she is a 23 yo Romanian, blond, stunning, very sweet personality, perky B/C cup breasts. She sat and talked for a while. I enjoyed her company, and was amazed by her beauty. I decided that I had to have her. But I told her that I was hungry, and that I would be ready for action after dinner. She said she would come find me. No sooner did she leave, that Lara cam over. She is a tall gorgeous German, with the "joker" tatoo on her groin. She was incredibly funny, and loved to laugh and giggle. Her name rang a bell. I knew I had read about her: but in the heat of the battle, I could not tell whether I remembered her name because I had read great things, or terrible things about her. In any case, I decided that I wanted to have her too, but also told her that I was not going to start my festivities until after dinner.

Finally dinner was served, I ate, and I was ready for my dessert. In comes Paula again. She lounged next to me on the sofa. LFK lead to DFK, and we decided to go to a room. As I mentioned, she is gorgeous, but her performance was not on par with her beauty. She did not react much to DATY, she tried BBBJ, but I had to stop her because my excitement was such that I was going to spill my cup. We then started with cover mich, she was very tight, and I did not last long (mostly because of my excitement, not because her performance was extraordinary). It could be said, in her defense, that I came so quickly, that I can't fully judge her, but after you read below, you will find out that you can make some judgements from the start. I then just laid there, and she was content to lay next to me, she did not try to rush me out. Looks 9, Performance 6

After some time in recovery, in which I carefully studied the behavior of the ladies, and timed some of them, I was ready for my next experience. I was waiting for Lara, but she was very busy going from one gentleman to the next. I figured that this is a good sign, as the locals probably knew the quality of the ladies. While waiting for her, I was approached by a number of different ladies. The ones I remember are a little heavy set brunette from Croatia, an Italian blond (my apologies but I am terrible with remembering names), Angelina brunette from Romania (Paula's friend), Daisy blonde from Romania. I have to admit that they were all very polite and nice, and when i turned them down, they left me with a smile, and did not try to accost me again unless I initiated conversation first. The only exception was the Italian girl, who came across pushy the 1st time, and came a 2nd time and was bordering on obnoxious.

Finally, I spotted Lara alone, I waived to her, but she only waived back. I saw that she was eating, so I figured that she may be hungry or tired. I gave her some time, then about half an hour later, established eye contact with her, but she was not interested in coming over. I don't know whether she was miffed that I turned her down the 1st time, or whether she did not remember me, or whether she had seen enough men for one night (I did not see her with another client for the remainder of the evening). For whatever reason, I did not go to her and try to speak with her directly. At this point, Mona, a very young and sweet brunette from Romania came over to chat. We had made eye contact previously when I was in the jacuzzi, she has big seductive eyes, and luscious lips with an endearing smile. We chatted a little, and I reached for her lips (with mine). As we progressed to DFK, I decided to go for her (even though I had promised myself that I would not go with an A cup woman). Her performance was much better than Paula's. The highlight was the BBBJ, with her big eyes staring at you, and her loud moaning. Once again, I had to make her stop, then we started mish, and then I turned her around and we went through at least 3 mini-positions within the doggy style world. I would rate her looks 8 (you could give her a 9 if you don'y mind A cups), French 9, service 8.

I was already in bliss. During my 2nd recovery, witnessed an argument between a dark skinned brunette and one of the men. Management was arbitrating. But the men, who spoke fluently German, stood firm, and it looks like he was winning the argument, solely because he was holding firm to his position, even though the lady was clearly miffed. Did not want to stare too long, so I don't know the outcome...I was hoping she would accost me later to get her name to warn you guys about her (granted, not knowing the story, I don't know who was at fault). While sitting at the bar, I met Luma from Brazil. She spoke as much English as I spoke Portugese (=none). Since conversation is important to me, I thought to myself this one will not be an option. Surprisingly, we kept chatting using sign language, and we enjoyed a few jokes. I have to admit she has a smoking hot body, and her enhanced tits are surprisingly soft. She did not mind my being in recovery, and an hour must have passed with us sitting next to each other and giggling. When she finally started to tease and reach under my towel, I was ready and willing. By this time (around 11pm), the number of men had increased to about 40 (ratio 1:1), and rooms were in premium. We sat on the couch waiting for rooms, and we got really hot and heavy with kissing, and then some. I guess there are limitations as to what they allow outside the rooms (not in kino), and she had to stop me on several occasions. I was really having a hard time withholding myself. Finally, one of the mini-rooms in the back opened up, so we immediately took it. These are smaller rooms, no door (only a curtain), but the mirror is there. What ensued was the best PSE I have ever experienced. Her energy, enthusiasm and moans, coupled with the fact that on my 3rd attempt I was really able to hold back, made for a once in a lifetime sexual romp. At the end, I was dripping in sweat, she claimed that she has not been manhandled like this in a long time (probably a lie, but it was good for the morale...). I really, really, really wanted to give her a tip, but I remembered what the seniors have said, and decided not to contribute to inflation. Her scores: looks 7, BJ 8, performace 9.5.

I showered, and on my way out, Luma followed me to the door and gave me a kiss and a hug, and whispered something in my ear in Portugese (wish I understood). Very classy gesture. My only regret is I should have stayed and taken another session with her (never done 3 times in one night before, so was not confident that I could do a 4th time).

In brief, I left a happy man. As all of you said, no matter how much you read about it, this is way better than your wildest imagination. The 2 questions that I am left with are: why have I not been there before? When will I be able to go back. To all of you who live there, or can go there frequently, I envy you, and I hope you appreciate your blessing.

Slam

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Akibono

06-19-06, 06:20

Instead of giving a tip to good performers, I suggest you extend the time to a hour. On the other hand, if you spend alot of time outside the room or she goes over the time limit, one should give a tip since this is service beyond the norm. It is not a way of spoiling the girl. Just rewarding good behavior.

Dedalus

06-19-06, 08:09

Nice report Slam! I do agree with you about Paula and her good looks. However she has always struck me as kind of cold and I have done a good job of resisting her in the past. Her friend Angelina is quite a good session though.

Too bad that you missed the chance to go with Laura. Her blow jobs are incredible!!!

Cheers,

Dedalus

Percent99

06-19-06, 14:29

I was in Palace on 3 day trip last we-thu-fr:
I found it to be a very nice place .Had a bad first ecounter with a Black girl from Jamaica named Sofia. Tall nice looking and in the bar very prommissing.
But less enthousiastic in the room as she was trying to limit the service given.She actually had her legs crossed and kept them as closed as she could. I would not recomend.
I had a reflex massage wich was great. Had relaxed time and finally I met a S. America woman (Venezouela?) named Andria . Petit girl very nice and I never went with any one else for 3 days. Recomended ? 100 percent.

Percent99

06-19-06, 14:50

As for the Rld I was very impressed with the quantity but dint like it at all as you had to search too much to find something good and frankly I had no patience especially knowing that Palace was waiting and I could spend 5-6 hours there not only having sex but also relaxing and resting my body and soul. Walking 1 hour and "knocking on 50 doors to find 15 min. thrill does not do it for me.Too stressing.
The strip clubs I could search a litle more to understand what else is going on there but didnt . So if anyone has any info on them please post(as I have a lot of questions marks still).

Samurai X

06-19-06, 15:02

Dedalus

06-20-06, 13:14

D-san,

Thanks for your help again, but you reminded me of that MARINA. I know, you miss her, as much as we all do..

I heard that she is now steady with some rich dude, according to some PALACE girls. Is that true?? Well, I guess I have to see Charlie next time.

Cheers,

S

Hey Sam,

I have heard that one as well as a few others regarding our lovely Lithuanian. Two things that I know for sure:

One: If she is with some guy, then he better have some serious money. Marina is high- maintenance when it comes to her lifestyle. The Gucci shoes, a BMW, those fancy watches, 800 Euro Louis Vuitton handbags, etc. A sweet and beautiful girl to be sure, but she ain't cheap.

Two: Back in December she told me that she was thinking about doing something else and that she may not be doing this for much longer.

Marina had it pretty easy work-wise and money-wise as one of Atlantis' and Palace's star top-acts. She rarely came to work before 9 PM and could pretty much count on meeting one of her deep-pocket regulars at least a couple of times a week. One guy would regularly take her to a room for around 5-7 hours. And she had a few regulars who would do this, much to the annoyance of bums like me who while one of her regulars, usually kept the sessions at 30 min. to an hour. All of this translated into some pretty good dough for her.

Part of me hopes that she is out of this game for good. I genuinely like her and hope that she can have a good life outside of this business. The other part of me wants my favorite FKK girl back. If I were a betting man, then I would bet that she will be back, especially if the story about her giving up the job for a rich sugar-daddy is true. That will get boring for one of them at some point.

Then again, maybe she met some nice young dude at Cookys one night who convinced her that it is time to settle down.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who never hung out with Marina at Cookys.

Routard

06-20-06, 15:06

Dedalus, who never hung out with Marina at Cookys.

Dedalus, this is the second time you mention this place. Tell us more about...

Dedalus

06-20-06, 16:25

Dedalus, this is the second time you mention this place. Tell us more about...

Actually it is probably the 3rd or 4th time that I have mentioned it. Cookys is a club/disco in Frankfurt, not to far from the Zeil. It is a popular hangout with the young, Frankfurt crowd (those who can get in, that is) and many Palace and Oase girls have sighted struttin' their minimally clothed stuff there either on their nights off or after hours.

Its a hip place to hang, but the crowd is kind of young and weekends can be just stone, wall-to-wall people. I have witnessed a few Palace and Oase (and the occasional World or Malibu) girl there.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Samurai X

06-21-06, 17:09

D-san,

Hahaha. Yeah, I know she could be very very very expensive. Oh, don't forget her $2K Gucci Persha watch and her Merc-SLK convertible (Her rich friend gave her that watch and let her use that car, according to the other jealous Palace girl. Oh, she dropped me off at my hotel one morning - my 20 minute-high-light moment in this short FKK experience! Unfortunately, just a ride. And was free).

Well, you know, maybe I was just fooled (she is a pro, you know), but I also thought she was actually a nice person. But she also mentioned that she might quit by the time I would be back in this spring (which she did). Well, let's hope she will return in the near future (I will be back for the CannabisCup)! Please keep us updated!

Corkys, uh. Is that place like Gallary or Cocoon? The girls from Palace and Oase often mentioned those places, as well as Beach Party in summer. Have you guys been there with those girls. Mmmmm, could be really fun, but then kind of embarassing since everyone knows them.

Cheers,

Samurai, who are damn enough to fly to Germany for FKKs.

Hey Sam,

I have heard that one as well as a few others regarding our lovely Lithuanian. Two things that I know for sure:

One: If she is with some guy, then he better have some serious money. Marina is high- maintenance when it comes to her lifestyle. The Gucci shoes, a BMW, those fancy watches, 800 Euro Louis Vuitton handbags, etc. A sweet and beautiful girl to be sure, but she ain't cheap.

Two: Back in December she told me that she was thinking about doing something else and that she may not be doing this for much longer.

Marina had it pretty easy work-wise and money-wise as one of Atlantis' and Palace's star top-acts. She rarely came to work before 9 PM and could pretty much count on meeting one of her deep-pocket regulars at least a couple of times a week. One guy would regularly take her to a room for around 5-7 hours. And she had a few regulars who would do this, much to the annoyance of bums like me who while one of her regulars, usually kept the sessions at 30 min. to an hour. All of this translated into some pretty good dough for her.

Part of me hopes that she is out of this game for good. I genuinely like her and hope that she can have a good life outside of this business. The other part of me wants my favorite FKK girl back. If I were a betting man, then I would bet that she will be back, especially if the story about her giving up the job for a rich sugar-daddy is true. That will get boring for one of them at some point.

Then again, maybe she met some nice young dude at Cookys one night who convinced her that it is time to settle down.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who never hung out with Marina at Cookys.

Dedalus

06-23-06, 13:34

D-san,

Corkys, uh. Is that place like Gallary or Cocoon? The girls from Palace and Oase often mentioned those places, as well as Beach Party in summer. Have you guys been there with those girls. Mmmmm, could be really fun, but then kind of embarassing since everyone knows them.

Cheers,

Samurai, who are damn enough to fly to Germany for FKKs.

Hey Man,

Frankfurt has a pretty active nightlife apart from the FKKs, and Cookys is just one of the many popular hangs. Not so sure why the Palace girls gravitate towards Cookys, but they do.

In general if I am at Cookys (or in the city) and I see a girl from Palace or one of the others, then I give her a wide berth, apart from maybe a friendly smile just to let her know that all is well and that the distance is for her benefit and not because I am ashamed to know her. This is always appreciated.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Mahaba

06-24-06, 22:25

This discussion about what FKK Sex workers do on their nights off is interesting (sort of). However, what is even more interesting is what they do while at work.

For instance, if you meet a sex worker at her place of employment, you can invest 50 euros and get blown. If you meet the same sex worker "off duty" at a disco, you can spend 50 euros on her and watch her get tipsy. However you will not get blown.

For example, last week I went to a FKK club, had a late breakfast in the company of several nude women from all over the world, was offered sex by the majority of them, and eventually chose a girl from Thailand, as she offered a professional massage after sex, at no additional cost.

However, when I eat breakfast at resturants, no many how many women are there, none of them are nude, and none have offered to blow me. Therefore, I believe that breakfast at a FKK club is better value.

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!!!!!

Cheers

Blondofil

06-30-06, 09:32

Fkk Palace, 27/6 2006

I entered Palace at 18 o`clock and had experience with the following girls

Carina
Nationality:Polish
Body:slim
Height:ca 170
Breasts:b
Hair:Blonde
Age:20-25

This was the first girl I choose, she is in the category "optickfick. I made a typical fault when I entered the club, I choose a girl very fast only based on look and without any small talk. Carina is okay, if it wasn't for her lack of hygiene. When I licked her pussy I got a really bad taste, oh the taste was a mix of urin and rubber and that completely turned me off. I have licked many pussies, and they have all been clean, I really like DATY, but this experience was just bad and it became a bad session. Not recommended.

Jasmin
Nationality:German/Puerto Rican
Body:slim
Height:ca 165
Breasts:c
Hair:Black
Age:20-25

Well it started good, I was aproached by a good looking mulatto girl, who says she lives in Frankfurt and doesn't speak a word english. I talked with her in the bar and she started kissing me in the bar and touching my face, she put her hands under my towel and started touching my dick, well this was great couch action, and we went to a room. But inside the room, there was no kissing and she gave me one the worst blow jobs in my life, she sucked my dick, but it hurt because she used her teeth, I am not a masochist so I told her "ohne zahne", but still she couldn't blow with out teeth. Now Jasmin needs some kind of lesson in oral sex or she needs to hear the old rap tune "Just don't bite it" with NWA. Not recommended

Valentina
Nationality:Italian
Body:slim
Height:ca 160-165
Breasts:c
Hair:Brown
Age:26

This girl approached me while i was laying in the Kino, she doesn´t give a mindblowing session, but gives a normal service . Ok but nothing special.

Christina
Nationality:French/spanish
Body:a little overweight
Height:ca 170
Breasts:Large D
Hair:Light brown
Age:32

This girl has average look, large breasts and a little overweight and she is a professional masseuse. The session was good she gave me first a body to body massage, then a normal massage and then finally she was on her knees giving me a fantastic deep throat blow job.Recommended

Christina
Nationality:Romanian/greek
Body:Normal
Height:ca 170-175
Breasts:D
Hair:Black
Age:25-30

She is very hot, Christina approached me after i just had a session, but i had to decline. Luckily i found this goddess again, i took her hand and of we went to the room.

She started tongue fucking me, her kissing was so wild, wet. It was like she fucked my tongue with her, she is totally wet and wild. The sex was wild and hot, her blow job was deeeep and good, and her pussy tasted good and was clean. Christina has a marliyn monroe figure, she has some good large natural breast and a well shaped round ass, she really likes sex and is also a nice person. Highly recommended

Missed girls:

When i was sitting and watching the soccer match France-Spain, I was approached by a lot of different girls, but one girl was a totally young blonde 22 year old, who sat next to me and cuddled with me and said we can just talk and didn`t pressure me to go to a room with me. Her name is Sarah and is from Cologne, she has small breasts, a beautiful face,she is intelligent and sweet, and always wears long black boots. She is also a altruist, who told me the name of girls who provide good service, she pointed out girls who she says is good: she named the romanian Christina(who i went with) and the large breasted predator Linda F(The beautiful girl with the largest breasts in Palace) and also the young romanian girl Olympia( I have never been with her, but i consider her a optickfick). She told me that today she is almost a virgin, she had only made a lot of blowjobs, now she told me that she would be in the club until closing time, unfortunately i didn`t find her(she was probably booked the rest of the night)

The ultimate optickfick, the most beautiful girl in Palace is a russian blonde named Karin or Katrin. Karin is a true blonde with a small true blonde stripe pussy, black socks and a really natural beauty, now the way she walks around totally naked in the club, wriggling her ass is really hot and sexy. Allthough i consider Karin an "optickfick", and no real GFE with her, she is honest and will not try to rip you off, but she knows she doesn`t have to do anything to get customers, because customers always want her because of her beauty.

Status:negative and positive

+ The food was very good, well cooked rice with meatsauce. Bockwurst and bread, Parma ham with melon.
+ The place is very clean, the bar staff and other personnel are very friendly and serviceminded.
+ Good atmosphere between the service personnel and the fkk girls.
+ You get to watch at least 40-50 beautiful girls naked or half naked.
+ If you use your brain to think, and aren`t controlled by your dick you can have fantastic sex, for a low price.
+ A large selection of girls in different shapes and race.
+ You can find a girl who is really hot and loves sex.
+ Arrive at 18 o`clock you can watch all the girls, when they have dinner.

- No time to rest, while i was sitting and watching the soccer match France-Spain I was constantly approached by girls, no time to rest between sessions. So i retreated to the tents(Loser lounge), which is the only place where you can get som peace. Also no option to relax in the kino(girls hitting on you constantly, no chance to get a good sleep on the couch.

- Girls who is trying to take advantage on your lack of knowledge, many girls ask if you have been to the club before, and if you say it is my first time and act green, they will try to rip you off.

- Girls who is trying to get extra 50 euro, by sucking your dick hard so the can get the extra 50 for CIM (even if you don`t want it), I watched 2 disputes between customers and girls over that issue.

- The soccer match, was only shown without sound, and the soccer match should have been shown in the kino.

- Strippers/dancers, there was a lot of strippers/dancers in the club who danced erotic but didn`t drop all their clothes. Now you can watch totally naked girls more beautiful and hot than the strippers, so what is the point of having strippers/dancers in the club.

- Girls who don`t know how to suck a dick.

- Girls who have the strategy, to get the customer out of the room as quick as possible

- A turkish cab driver, who drove a longer way so he could get more money than it usually cost to get to Palace (14€), normally 10€. I argued with him and said "zu teuer"/to expensive, now the German cabdrivers are honest and don`t do this.

Oceanview

07-07-06, 11:34

Blondofil - great report. thank you.

Viagrant

07-12-06, 05:12

I visited in the Palace twice last week, on Monday night and on the following Sunday afternoon. Monday night was very hot inside, but Sunday was cooler. Lots of girls and guys on Monday night, Sunday late afternoon and early evening was rather quiet.

I had sessions with Lina a few times. Yes, I know she is not so popular on this forum, but I like her, and she is always good to me, and since my favorite thing is BBBJ CIM, she doesn't disappoint me as she will go and go for the full 30 minutes at BBBJ if necessary.

On the other hand, I had a fairly disappointing session with a cute, thin, young Romanian girl named Olympia (dark hair beneath, but bleached on the top, for a two color look). She was hanging out with 2 other Romanian girls, one named Clara (very light blonde), and I forgot the other's name (blonde with large breasts). I had to approach them as they were sitting together chatting and smoking, but there were so few men, that the girls were not moving around much. So, off we went to a room. Olympia did some very light kissing, and then informed me that she would put on a condom to do oral. Ouch. I guess that rules out CIM. I let her do her condom covered oral, and then did her from behind for a few minutes until she complained that it hurt her knees. She climbed on top for a bit, and then I had her finish with her hand with the condom off. She offered to let me cum on her small but perky breasts, but by the time she offered, it was too late. I really would not recommend her, especially if you are into BBBJ, but she was cute and among the youngest looking I have seen at The Palace.

I tried to find Romanian/Greek Christina mentioned in Blondofil's recent report, but if she was there, I didn't run into her. Too bad the girls don't wear name tags. :)

V.

Beffen1

07-14-06, 01:52

Viagrant,

Too bad you took the well lnown dud Olympia. A real looker yes, but she does not kiss and I'ver never heard anything good about her service. Her other friend was probably Julia, she has Chinese character tatoo down her back and wears boots and a belt often. Those large breasts are recently enhanced. Julia gives better service than Olympia (almost anyone does), but is prone to be impatient, preferring to have you come after say, 15 minutes of her dazzling beauty. She is largely an optikfick.

beffen

Dedalus

07-14-06, 07:52

Her other friend was probably Julia, she has Chinese character tatoo down her back and wears boots and a belt often. Those large breasts are recently enhanced.
beffen

Hey Beff,

It could also have been Anna. They nearly look like twins; tattoos, tits and all. They have been working the rooms at Palace together for some weeks now. Anna seems like a pretty nice one. Julia is still Julia. Shall I give her your greetings the next time I see her?

Cheers,

Dedalus

Alkmar Punter

07-15-06, 12:43

Viagrant,

Too bad you took the well lnown dud Olympia. A real looker yes, but she does not kiss and I'ver never heard anything good about her service.Hey Bef,

I've done this Olympia in happy garden a few months ago -
absolutely a great looker , she gave me 15 minutes at 50 , very restricted , she was kind of arrogant like : "50 is not much, I'm from the Palace in Frankfurt, you dudie, but you can fuck me if you want" (I did)

Da Vista

07-16-06, 23:23

Hi,

I just wonder if the famous romanian Daniella still works at Palace at the moment. Can anybody answer me?

Thanks

Dedalus

07-17-06, 00:10

Hi,

I just wonder if the famous romanian Daniella still works at Palace at the moment. Can anybody answer me?

Thanks

She should be finished with her money-making-stint at Artemis in Berlin and back "home" in Palace.

Cheers,

Dedalus

M P Lurker

07-19-06, 12:09

Fkk Palace, 27/6 2006
The ultimate optickfick, the most beautiful girl in Palace is a russian blonde named Karin or Katrin. Karin is a true blonde with a small true blonde stripe pussy, black socks and a really natural beauty, now the way she walks around totally naked in the club, wriggling her ass is really hot and sexy. Allthough i consider Karin an "optickfick", and no real GFE with her, she is honest and will not try to rip you off, but she knows she doesn`t have to do anything to get customers, because customers always want her because of her beauty.Yes, Yes, absolutely georgous. She has a stunning pussy too! - to go with anything else.

It doesn't really bother me if a girl doesn't treat every guy as a boyfriend on the first meet if the she is co-operative and good service. I was more than happy and went back for more. She was happy to kiss and get more seemingly intimate once she got to know me well.

BTW, I would be greatful if anyone knows how to spell her name correctly for certain. It sounded approx. like "Katherine" to me, but then I'm not Russian so what would I know?

Dedalus

07-20-06, 01:24

BTW, I would be greatful if anyone knows how to spell her name correctly for certain. It sounded approx. like "Katherine" to me, but then I'm not Russian so what would I know?

In German it would be "Kathrin". She is known by a number of German regulars as "Katja". She has always told me "Kathrin". No idea how it looks in Russian.

I also think that the girl is terrific and much more than an "Optikfick"! I have known her since her Oase days when she was not nearly as attractive as she is now, although she was pretty cute back then. She was no where to be seen on Monday.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who loves Kathrin's tan-lines ;-)))

Whitey2

07-20-06, 03:45

Originally posted by Dedalus: "No idea how it looks in Russian."

Like this, I think. Hope it prints.

Катрин

Dedalus

07-20-06, 09:42

Originally posted by Dedalus: "No idea how it looks in Russian."

Like this, I think. Hope it prints.

Катрин

Thanks Whitey. Have not heard from you in a while. Hope all is well.

I for got to mention that the "th" in "Kathrin" would be pronounced more or less like a normal, English "T".

Cheers,

Dedalus

Stiff6

07-24-06, 19:39

Just had another nice visit to FRA with excursions to Palace and Oase. Palace on Friday night featured quite a big number of girls and boys, but still the scene was a little slow - most people just hanging round looking tired.

I also found that the girls were less inclined to come around and say hello (which I actually like if they do not get too obnoxious :-) Still I find that Palace's layout is the nicest of the clubs in the FRA area: There's areas where you can really relax between the sessions (hard to find in Oase) and there's lots of places where you got a good overview of the scene.

After a while of looking around and a nice chat with a girl from GER (forgot her name) I was hooked by the smile of Crystal, a young girl from Dominican Republic, who sat on the stairs chatting with a colleague. When I see a brown girl smile at me like that I just can't resist, so I joined them for a chat. Her friend's name was Tina from GER, (with the name Selina tattooed on her back - allegedly her daughters name). Both of them are nice and curvy (and not too thin) with natural C cups (Tina's might be enhanced). After chatting a while I let Crystal talk me into booking them both. First I was hesitant, because my past experience with a threesome in Palace was not so good, but then I decided to give it another go.

We found a room and had aa great start of the session with both girls cuddling up to me and kissing. Then one of them moved down to take care of a part of me that urgently awaited their attention. They took turns sucking me (both of them with great technique and enthusiam) and when Tina sucked my dick and Crystal licked my balls I was in heaven! Also they positioned themselves in a way that I always had some nice body parts to fondle! I turned down Crystals first proposition to put the rubber on, but eventually we proceeded to FS and I had Crystal ride me for a while finishing on her in mish. While I fucked Crystal Tina stayed off a bit, so I asked her to join us and rub her tits against my back while I felt Crystal's on my chest. Aaaaaaahhhh!

After the session I hung around for a little while, but then I got tired and decided to call it a day.

A clear recommendation for both ladies although Tina was a little shy.

Then there's 2 more recommendations I'd like to add for Palace visitors:

1. Right next to the club there is a brand new hotel called "Fleming's" http://www.flemings-hotels.com/ It has got a very stylish interieur, great food and incredibly friendly staff, all that at affordable prices.

2. About 5 min. walk from the club in Ludwig-Landmann-Straße there is the "Brentano Bad" http://www.bbf-frankfurt.de/Freibad_Brentano_Allgemein.htm a big public bath with nice old trees - the perfect place to hang out during the hot days, and recover for another evening at the Palace.

Enjoy!

Dojocal

07-25-06, 05:33

Then there's 2 more recommendations I'd like to add for Palace visitors:

1. Right next to the club there is a brand new hotel called "Fleming's" http://www.flemings-hotels.com/ It has got a very stylish interieur, great food and incredibly friendly staff, all that at affordable prices.

2. About 5 min. walk from the club in Ludwig-Landmann-Straße there is the "Brentano Bad" http://www.bbf-frankfurt.de/Freibad_Brentano_Allgemein.htm a big public bath with nice old trees - the perfect place to hang out during the hot days, and recover for another evening at the Palace.

Enjoy!Great trip report. I will be making my very first trip to Frankfurt this weekend (July 29th, 30th) and plan to visit Oase and Palace. Infact, I booked a room at the Fleming so I could just walk to Palace. Needless to say, I am damn excited to finally go have my first FKK experience...and Yes, I want to do a threesome session as well.

DOJO

M P Lurker

07-25-06, 11:48

She has always told me "Kathrin".

I also think that the girl is terrific and much more than an "Optikfick"! I have known her since her Oase days when she was not nearly as attractive as she is now, although she was pretty cute back then.

Dedalus, who loves Kathrin's tan-lines ;-)))Dedalus,

Yes i'm very attracted to Kathrin's tan lines as well and the most stunningly beautiful pussy I have seen. Going down on her got me real hard real quick. The perfection of the lips shape with lovely pink inside!

How is it that she wasn't nearly so attractive in the old days?

Lose weight? Or has her attitude improved? She seems to enjoy sex well enough now and the effect she has on guys like me. I can't think what else could be relevant?

Interceptor

07-25-06, 17:53

My first visit to Palace in Frankfurt. In fact my first visit to an FKK in Germany, this Monday.

I had a quick dinner before leaving the hotel. Just because I was really hungry after totally skipping lunch for business reasons, so I won't be able to report about the food quality! But who cares anyway?

Short taxi ride: about 10 minutes from downtown, 10€ (I spent 15€ coming back late at night, guess it was the night rate as the way the cab took was exactly the same the other way around)

Well, if I need to summarize my experience I would say "What a civilized way to sex. "

I knew what to expect from your reports, and I have to say all is perfectly as described here. The place is more than ok. A friendly woman at the entrance showed me around after I told them it was my first time there. She described the locations pointing her finger "food", "shower", "massage", and said "sex" with a smile while pointing to the main lounge area.

Hilarious.

The system is simple and effective. I placed my valuables in the safe, my clothes in the locker, took a shower and off I went looking around the club. Plenty of sitting room, pleasantly decorated comfortably warm with areas where the temperature is somewhat cooler (the movie theater, the rooms, part of the lounge away from the saunas)

I have been to many different places all around the world, but the vision of 30 to 40 totally naked young women, many of which really good looking, strutting their stuff around wearing only high heels, sitting legs wide apart caressing their sex, lying down on a sofa showing their tight little asses. Well it's really quite a sight. I am honest, I if had a place like that close to where I live I would be in serious financial trouble very rapidly. There were (and the ratio remained stable for the evening) at least 2 girls for every man.

I'll spare You the chronological sequence of my evening and concentrate on what I took out of it and things that could be useful to you

Choice of women was good. Many good looking ones, a few with a stunning figure (perky breasts, perfectly flat belly, beautiflly shaped ass), some on the other hand where just barely a 5 or 6. There was an asian girl, 3 blacks, I believe two south american ones, the rest where moslty fake blondes.

If I could, I personally would have gone for one of the dancers (a blonde one with an incredibly fit body and fuckable face) but they are just that, that is dancers, so are unavailable.

I have been approached by about 15 women trying to sell their product. Some take a somewhat longer way to their targets, others just come and sit on your lap or next to you and start caressing you or kissing your nipples or other interesting action. Personally I have no problem in turning down any woman, it's not even an issue. I pay, therefore I choose, of course. Just a matter of doing it with a smile. Any excuse is ok, from "I want some time to look around and choose", to "I just did it and need time to relax". Whatever. Seems like I did the right thing since a couple even came back again later in the evening just to chat.

Of all, just one reacted with an angry stare, but simply she had been the most aggressive one, sitting next to me and right away, without saying a word, slipping her hand under my towel to grab my penis. And she did that right after doing it in sequence, right in front of me, to three other guys in the room (all of which turned her down). Bad attitude, I hate that. I pushed her hand away saying "No, thank you". She left, of course.

Something I found very interesting is that some of the girls appear to be totally uninterested in approaching clients, waiting at the bar, or laying down on a sofa, they just chat with each other or even stay alone watching a music video on one of the screens. In fact a few looked really bored. Others seemed like they were at a girls night out, eating, drinking, dancing to the music, chit chatting like long lost friends. There was a group of spanish speaking women actually trying on and buying (no kidding) fake jewelry from one of their colleagues. Quite peculiar.

I have had two girls that night

The first one has been Lisa. Young (23) and. Looking even younger! She was very sweet and all smiles and kisses. She told me she was german but raised in Russia. Sounded like a lie because I asked her how do you say "****" in russian and she said she didn't remember. Pretty strange for a pro. She is blonde, petite, with cute pear shaped breasts and simply one of the softest skins I have ever caressed in my life. Good sex, her pussy is tight and young, her tits so pleasant to grab and suck. Difficult to get more "GFE"-like with a pro. If I really need to find something wrong I would say that kissing in the room has been far less enthusiastic than in the lounge, and that she did not loose her focus asking me right on the verge of my coming if I wanted to spend extra money for coming in her mouth. I do recommend her to those desiring a softer experience.

The second one has been Lina (strange name connection here.) She told me she was from Prague. We chit chatted a while. It was getting late for me (1AM and a plane to catch at 7: 30) and the two women I really wanted to check, had been unavailable for all the second part of the evening. Really so goodlooking that they would basically get out of a room and in again in a matter of minutes. Lina wasn't on the A list I had built in my mind but I decided to take her anyway just before leaving. In her early 20s too, larger breasts, friendly smile. Sex has been ok. It took me some time to get it up again for this second shot but she did a good job with her mouth. In fact, afterwards, she really wanted to talk, which was good. To be honest though nothing really to remember, I am sure there is better material around and I would not repeat the experience with her

That's it for the basics. A great evening in a friendly and very relaxed place. I wonder what the place is like when it's way more crowded (it was a Monday so probably attendance was low) But as I said: what a civilized way to sex. I close my eyes and I can still see those cute bare asses passing by and wiggling and swinging on the high heels. Paradise

I will definitely go back if I have a chance.

Interceptor

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Ortos

07-25-06, 21:41

"How is it that she wasn't nearly so attractive in the old days?"

About 2.5 years ago, she worked exclusively at Oase. These were her first years in the FKK business I think. Then she was a bit more plump and she sported her natural dark brown hair, cut above shoulder length. She tended tolook back then a bit pouty, almost like Betty Boop.

She was often available, yet, even back then, those who went with her came away satisfied. After a couple of years experience at Oase, this Russian girl disappeared for a few months, then resurfaced at a year or so ago, thinner and with blond hair, and very hot...

Ortos

Rain City

07-26-06, 06:31

A novice question. Is the Flemings hotel next to Palace "Flemings Messe" or "Nueu Borse"? The hotel location cannot be any better and I would like to stay there when I visit Palace next time.

Crazy Travel

07-26-06, 06:50

I am honest, I if had a place like that close to where I live I would be in serious financial trouble very rapidly.How much I agree. I was one in palace (great! ) and one in oase (not so much.). Both I took plane only to go there. And I'm waiting and dreaming only to have a new opportunity and new "tips" to use there.

I think too. If I have near me, I'd be again to my parents to ask food. :-)

Gastonian

07-26-06, 06:58

Will be staying at the airport, can anyone tell me the best way to get to Palace, taxi and appx. costs, train etc.

Thanks.

Stiff6

07-26-06, 12:21

A novice question. Is the Flemings hotel next to Palace "Flemings Messe" or "Nueu Borse"? The hotel location cannot be any better and I would like to stay there when I visit Palace next time.

Fleming's Hotel Frankfurt Neue-Börse
Elbingerstraße 1-3
60487 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49 (0) 69 506040 - 0
Telefax: +49 (0) 69 506040 - 999

Jimmy K II

07-26-06, 12:35

Will be staying at the airport, can anyone tell me the best way to get to Palace, taxi and appx. costs, train etc.

Thanks.

Hi there,

the easiest way to get from the airport to FKK Palace is to take the train to Frankfurt City "Hauptbahnhof" (travels regularly)
At the Hauptbahnhof you can easily take a Cab/Taxi to the FKK Palace (should be max. 10 min. Cab-Ride)

Have Fun!

Whitey2

07-26-06, 15:37

Gastonian

07-26-06, 16:22

Thanks for the info, perhaps I will take the train to the Main Train Station and check out the RLD for a bit to see if I can find a lady willing to provide a similar level of services as Palace for a reasonable price. Several years ago I did the RLD and had an Eastern European girl who provided most all that was desired for just a bit more than the usual session, she told me that it was her job and she was going to do her job to the best of her ability. She definitely proved that as the session went on.

Should the RLD not work out, then I can go ahead and take the taxi to Palace, I assume that taxi drivers will know where to go if I say FKK Palace to them, and that return taxis to the airport are no problem.

Any suggestions on a good bar near the RLD to have a few beers before doing the deed ? Anyone going to be around Friday night and want to have a beer?

Thanks for everyone's help.

SX Lover

07-26-06, 21:28

Will be staying at the airport, can anyone tell me the best way to get to Palace, taxi and appx. costs, train etc.

Thanks.If you dont have much time than take cab from airport. it should be about 25 euro each way. otherwise take train to FF City and cab.

Cab will cost you 22-23 + 7 euro for train RT.

Dedalus

07-26-06, 23:15

Dedalus,

How is it that she wasn't nearly so attractive in the old days?

Lose weight? Or has her attitude improved? She seems to enjoy sex well enough now and the effect she has on guys like me. I can't think what else could be relevant?

She did loose a bit of weight, but that is not really the issue. She was still an attractive girl back then. But she had a bit of a sad aura in those days and it was easy to get the impression that she wanted to be any place but Oase.

When I saw her for the first time at Palace, she had blond hair, was a bit trimmer, was walking with a purpose and had her head held high with a big smile on her kisser. Looked like she owned the joint. That was sexy!!!! The attitude change transferred to the room and sex as well.

Ever notice how big, bright and shiny Kathrin's eyes are? In her Oase days, that was not the case. Also, she speaks the language much better now (German, I mean) and this does make a big difference for many of the girls.

Cheers,

Dedalus, Kathrin the Great's sex-slave

Dojocal

07-27-06, 22:44

Fleming's Hotel Frankfurt Neue-Börse
Elbingerstraße 1-3
60487 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49 (0) 69 506040 - 0
Telefax: +49 (0) 69 506040 - 999

I'll be arriving in Frankfurt this Saturday afternoon 7/29 and am staying at the Fleming Neue-Borse...rate was only $55 per night and it looks very nice inside (remodeled is what I heard). Nice cafe/restaurant inside and near train station......and walking distance to the Palace :-)

I called Oase and they told me its about $30Euro from downtown frankfurt to their site, so I plan to visit them on Sunday.

Hope to see some of you fellas there at the FKK, I certainly am looking forward to my first visit.

DojoCAL

FKKguide

07-28-06, 11:13

Since I have gone the other way twice (Palace to Airport) by taxi, I can mention that if you really want to haul ass to Palace it should cost you approximately 28 euro (minus tip) to just take a taxi there.

Whitey2No tipping needed in Germany (another great thing!). Only tip for service beyond and above. Cab drivers will most likely get a kickback from the club for bringing you though. So don't let them steer you. Palace is the best choice near FRA, Oase in the countryside. Achtung: Stay sober and alert in the RLDs!
PM me about guide / chauffeur services.

Viagrant

07-30-06, 16:46

Will be staying at the airport, can anyone tell me the best way to get to Palace, taxi and appx. costs, train etc.

Thanks.

Take the train (S-Bahn) from the airport to Hauptwache (2 stops beyond the Hauptbahnhof). Then transfer to the U-6 or U-7 (U-Bahn) to Industriehof (6 stops).

Alternately, take the train from the airport to Hauptbahnhof, change to the U-4 and go 2 stops to Bockenheimer Warte, then change to U-6 or U-7 to Industriehof. This route is shorter, but because you change twice, it might actually take longer.

Easy and cheap, but a taxi is faster. My experience is that a taxi from the Ibis near FKK Palace to the airport is around 27-28 Euros with tip (and, yes, tips are usual in taxis in Germany, though not as large tips as in the US).

Viagrant

07-30-06, 16:50

The first one has been Lisa. Young (23) and. Looking even younger! She was very sweet and all smiles and kisses. She told me she was german but raised in Russia. Sounded like a lie because I asked her how do you say "****" in russian and she said she didn't remember. Pretty strange for a pro. She is blonde, petite, with cute pear shaped breasts and simply one of the softest skins I have ever caressed in my life. Good sex, her pussy is tight and young, her tits so pleasant to grab and suck. Difficult to get more "GFE"-like with a pro. If I really need to find something wrong I would say that kissing in the room has been far less enthusiastic than in the lounge, and that she did not loose her focus asking me right on the verge of my coming if I wanted to spend extra money for coming in her mouth. I do recommend her to those desiring a softer experience.

Could you please give a physical description of Lisa? She sounds good.

Unfortunately, the girls at The Palace do not wear name tags. :)

Peter Kin

08-03-06, 22:49

Interceptor

08-06-06, 23:23

Could you please give a physical description of Lisa? She sounds good.

Unfortunately, the girls at The Palace do not wear name tags. :)Viagrant,

I'd really like to help, but I am so bad at descriptions (and english is not my first language either). What I wrote is really what i have seen.

What can i add ?

She is bonde, and her hair is straight and down to her shoulders.

Her face looks younger, just like a doll

She is petite, definitely not a tall german woman

She has these soft and cute pear shaped breasts

She walks around holding her little purse and towel

During my evening she has spent 90% of her time at the bar, maybe she likes to be up there.

I have not seen her approach one man in the whole evening, she always waited to be approached

Hope it helps

(i have got news i might go up there a few more times in the weeks to come, now that's very good news !)

Interceptor

The French

08-09-06, 08:37

Planning to be in Fkft in the next few days, around the 10 th of August.

Do Palace and Oase have still enough talent left during this holiday period?

And which would you guys recommend?

Hunter10

08-10-06, 03:02

Hi I just finish my week of Fkk. Here's my report of Palace:

Here is a compilation of the few ladies I met during this visit:

Sally: German, Black hair and blue eyes. Around 170 cm tall. Around 21 yrs old. Beautiful face and model type body. Slightly above average.

Jennifer: German, blond hair around 166 cm tall? Around 24 yrs, pretty face. Very good experience.

Federico: Forgot which country, Young face. 19 yrs old black hair, fresh smile. Around 165 cm tall. Good experience.

Lena: Swedish/Czech - nice face, around 22 yrs. Blond hair with streaks. Really cute smile. Very good experience.

Linda: Already mention on this board. Very nice curves and personality. One of the best in Palace.

Natasha: Blond hair nice body. I forgot where she came from. It was a good experience.

Kelly: German, Pretty face and dark brown hair. Around 170 cm tall. Nice slim body. Slightly above average.

Mahaba

08-13-06, 00:10

I visited FKK Palace today (Saturday) from 18:00-20:30 and had a pretty good time. The place filled up by 7:30 PM, and offered a good selection. I first choose a young Bulgarian girl, short brunette, who gave a decent BBBJ, and was acceptable all around. The standard FKK experience.

The 2nd was Daniella from Romania (thin, brrunette). I recommend her highly, as she knows how to treat a customer. Great BBBJ followed by a fantastic slow, oily, professional hand-job. She is the one you want when you are at the 3rd round and don't know if you will be able to pop. If she can't help then no-one can.

She said thet she has several repeat customers that enjoy her technique. I know that I did and will look for her again.

Happy hunting!

M P Lurker

08-13-06, 10:17

Mick Licker describes Kathrin's pussy as the most beautiful he has seen.

We each have our own idea of beautiful - what is it that appealed to you Mick? I would love to know as I am unable to get to see her for some time.
PetePeter,

Sorry haven't checked this thread for a few days and not currently in Deustchland, but hope to return in about 5 weeks.

Sorry I don't have photos of Kathrin's pussy to back up my story. I wish I did.
However I believe "Dedalus" agrees with my views and tastes somewhat.
So check the Guide to see what he said.

I am a bit of a sucker for (or licker of) girls with excessively good looks.
Kathrin from the Black Sea has a really magnificent look from head to toe IMHO.

When it comes to pussies, personal taste comes into it a lot I'm sure. Kathrin is not excessively tight and not too loose (for me - might not suit a really small dick). It gives my dick a beautifully soft but firm grip. The appearance is very symetrical (an important facet of beauty). The lips are quite straight and even on both sides. The pink bud of her clit is lovely (delicately beautiful) . There is no excess of large lips hanging out everywhere.

She doesn't mind playing with herself and spreading open for a voyeur's view of her extremely nice pink colouring inside.

After too many sessions, my dick was flagging a little, the first time I met her. But when she spread her legs and I went down on her, the sheer beauty of her pussy got me back to full hardness suprisingly quickly (for me), and thats without her touching my dick at all. Its not often that a quick look at a pussy has such a strong effect on me.

There must be other girls with extremely beautiful pussies and maybe most guys just don't care. But for me, I had to give Kathrin extra points for the best looking pussy. Doesn't mean she is best in all departments. Every girl has their own fortes. Blonde Daniella from Romania was a big favourite and was equal or better than Kathrin in some criteria (but Kathrin's pussy was #1 for me - appearance, taste, feel - everything perfect).

P.S. Kathrin loves to flaunt her body. She obviously knows how good she looks.

Mahaba

08-19-06, 00:05

I visited this evening between 2200 & Midnight, and the place was pretty full, with the usual 15 minute wait for a room.

I tried Katya, a German provider, formally of Bernds FKK near Cologne. She was a dud, about a 4 in performance. I will not repeat.

The second was better, Carmen from South America. She is an amazon willing to try just about everything. She even purchaced a dildo so she can get herself used to anal. Very passionate girl.

If I had more energy I would have tried another, but the force was not with me. I only wish I could have had such opportunity (and cash) available when I was in my twenties.

Russell Crowe

08-20-06, 18:02

I visited The Palace a few times last week. I am not sure if it was my luck or attitude, but the experience was not as good as it was for me a few months ago. This time it seemed every session was rather rushed with a 5 minute BBBJ followed by rather rushed sex in a few positions, you know the drill with the girl trying to get you to cum as quick as possible. I am not too old at 37, but it takes me a little while to get warmed up and I really don't enjoy the experience if I have to try and rush to get the job done. I guess I shouldn't complain as this is some of the best service I have seen around the world, but I guess I got a little lucky the last time with some service approaching GFE in attitude and performance. This time I didn't even come close.

I tried a few of the girls that I had the previous visit. Sylvia from Poland (with the tiger tattoo) and a few of the Romanian girls as well as an Indian Iranian and Dominican for good measure. I won't say that the sessions were bad, but just not what I was hoping to experience based on the past.

One thing I will add that I found interesting was that the Dominican girls will sometimes let you have their ass for the usual 50 Euro fee. if you are into that sort of thing you may want to give them a spin. I wouldn't ask them directly, wait for them to offer or else they may get upset.

I am sure to go back when I am in Frankfurt again, but with a little less anticipation than I had this time.

Wanking

08-21-06, 01:39

Fucking Hell !!!

Russel Crowe is now visitng FKK clubs. Must be doing some research for a new movie, where he plays a pimp or something !!!!

Iseeu

08-21-06, 02:12

russel crowe is now visitng fkk clubs. must be doing some research for a new movie, where he plays a pimp or something !!!!

wanking,
actually, it's a prequel to the gladiator, in which he's thrown into room of snarling naked women with long fingernails, dragon tattoos and on stiletto heels, all trying to claim his drachmas while surrounded by spectators barely draped in cloths. obviously once he was able to survive these horrific trials, he could easily take on hungry lions, monstrous men and sadistic emperors. lol

Whitey2

08-21-06, 02:35

[QUOTE=Wan King]Fucking Hell !!!

Russel Crowe is now visitng FKK clubs.

Don't stand anywhere near the reception desk telephone if he shows up, then!

(Just kidding, dude. We all are. Welcome to the FKK section!)

Akibono

08-21-06, 04:41

M P Lurker

08-24-06, 15:17

The last time I visited Palace, it was slow for most of the night. Then on cue it seemed every guy wanted a session. But there was never a wait for a room. The girls processed all the guys and collected a lot of money. The line was at the lockers as customers queued up to pay! I bet there was not a session over 15 minutes. To be honest, the girls were probably making up for lost time since it was slow for most of the night. Don't know if it is a trend.I have never had a session under 30 mins (unless the girl turned me off badly) but many well over 30 mins. This is possibly due to the fact that I rarely make it quickly and like to be in some control of what happens in the session. Bossy girls are a big turn-off.

My objective is to spend time picking the very best girl and then spend good time with her (not rushed). I am not trying to fuck as many girls as possible in one night. Quality is better than quantity. I even have repeated the same girl on same night when can't find anyone else as good available.

Now the girls don't mind spending long sessions when it gets busy because they can earn more money by double or triple sessions than by having to look for a new mark and waiting for a room yet again. It they have a good time in the room and make good money, so much the better. On the other hand some girls have no work ethic and are just there to muck around and have a good time. I am not so keen on really lazy girls. Girls with stamina impress me.

Guys that want to fuck as many girls as possible shouldn't be too concerned about a shorter than 30 minute seesion, as long as get their rocks off and can go looking for the next girl.

I prefer to get to the Palace before gets too busy as don't like long waits for rooms unless can get started on the girl outside. On the other hand have to get to the Palace when favourite girls are around and as yet not too busy. Difficult at times. Community sex rooms are not ideal for me because I prefer to have plenty of space for comfort (slightly claustrophobic), but have used them when wait for a room is too much.

I don't care if a girl goes for 15 mins with some guy. She may have hated him or visa versa. Some guys smell so bad, I can't fathom how the girl can go with them at all. As long as its a good unrushed session with me, then great.
Obviously I do avoid girls with constantly short turn-around times. Thats an obvious thing, isn't it. But I think relatively few girls are like that all the time in my experience.

Jackyo

08-26-06, 23:42

My objective is to spend time picking the very best girl and then spend good time with her (not rushed). I am not trying to fuck as many girls as possible in one night. Quality is better than quantity. I even have repeated the same girl on same night when can't find anyone else as good available.

If I find someone I like and we click personality-wise, I do multiple sessions with her rather than run the risk of having mediocre or bad sessions.

Sampling as many women as possible used to be an objective when I was a newbie but over time I've found that really high quality sessions are worth savoring over and over again.

I've also learned that I would much rather have a handful of quality orgasms rather than a large quantity of mediocre ones.

The limited resources at a club visit are a) money, b) time and c) fluids.

I think a succesful visit involves parceling out these limited resources in a way which maximizes my pleasure.

Spending money uselessly is not pleasurable. Wasting time with someone who I don't click with is also not pleasurable. Coming for the sake of coming is not pleasurable.

Of all of these elements, fluids are the one thing I run out of first so its what I try to conserve. Hence the Spermasparplan. I only give it up for the women I think are worthy of it.

This always causes some discussion with the women who insist that they want proof that I enjoyed my sessions with them.

M P Lurker

08-27-06, 17:28

In May 2005 I went with the stunning Melissa, a student of Colombian background and a part timer. Not sure if she is as good as she looks, although just the hot body was enough for my first session with her. Is she still at the Palace? Does anyone know her, have any opinionson whether she is potential GFE?

Is Dinara (Khazakstan) still there. Not stunning but definitely GFE for me?

What happened to Linda from the Seychelles?

DeepVoid

08-29-06, 23:19

I will be at Palace monday September 4 during the day. If any ISG fiends want to say hi then PM me before saturday. The last time I hooked up with a fellow ISG mongererer was fun.

D

Ed Setra

09-01-06, 16:53

Is Dinara (Khazakstan) still there. Not stunning but definitely GFE for me?

Mick Licker, she was there in late July.

I had sessioned with her a couple of times before, and was never disappointed. What a performer, really makes you feel 'the one'. I had three sessions with her in one afternoon in July, including some nice warm-up time for one session in the pool. Usually I butterfly about but I had been on a tour of the big 3, finishing in a day-time visit to Palace, and just fancied some quality time. Highly recommended.

Akibono

09-02-06, 03:28

Has anyone seen Elena, girl from Spain, recently?

Alex P Keaton

09-04-06, 07:56

Third girl was Isabel, another tall slim medium blonde girl from Germany.

Isabel was my best experience on this trip to Palace. (I stress that it was German Isabel, as apparently there was a Romanian Isabel at some point. This one is very petite, with curly dark blonde hair, and has a tribal tattoo at the small of her back and a larger tattoo surrounded by stars at her upper back.) Good English skills, good sense of humor. Started with kissing and BBBJ, then she appreciated DATY, and finally CFS in various positions. I should have grabbed her earlier in the day, but she was busy (on a Sunday, even).

Levitian

09-05-06, 10:23

Hi,
I wonder if this Chinese girl (unfortunately forgot her name) is still showing in the Palace. Did anybody see her lately?
Levitian

Viscount

09-05-06, 20:28

Hi,

I wonder if this Chinese girl (unfortunately forgot her name) is still showing in the Palace. Did anybody see her lately?

LevitianDid she have nice breasts, and wear black boots.?

RedBaron2

09-06-06, 08:39

I will be visiting soon the Palace for the second time, it will be an afternoon during a week day later this month.
Last time I did not really make the right choices, so I am asking if any of the frequent visitors can provide me some names you would recommend.

Thanks a lot, Red

M P Lurker

09-06-06, 15:51

Hi,

I wonder if this Chinese girl (unfortunately forgot her name) is still showing in the Palace. Did anybody see her lately?

LevitianI saw a chinese girl called Nali a few months back but haven't visited Palace recently. This may or may not be the one you are thinking of.
Very curvy body for a chinese girl. A bit unusual.

Nali was good in the room for first few minutes but no staying power, once she had had enough.

Dedalus

09-07-06, 00:29

Lacamer

09-07-06, 12:48

I went yesterday afternoon between 3 pm and 6 pm to the Palace. Very easy to reach with the underground train U6 or U7 Station: Industryhof.

There was not many girls, about 15. I would rate them 5 to 6 with the exception of 2 girls one blonde and one brunette with very slim bodies. I would rate them 8-9. Unfortunately these 2 girls did not look very GFE but arrogant. I made my choice on a blond from Russia. Nice body small tits and small ass. She was very active at the begining on the sofa but as soon as we were in the room, things have changed a little. No kisses any more and a little hurry to finish as quick as possible. I must say that this experience was not very positive. After I stay a little more to see if some other girls were arriving but nothing happen. Maybe it is better in the evening but in the afternoon it is very poor.

I have been in other FKK in Bochum area with much better choice of girls in the afternoon.

Jackyo

09-08-06, 01:52

I have been in other FKK in Bochum area with much better choice of girls in the afternoon.

This is definitely an RTC (Roter Teppich Club) or Red Carpet Club.

Was it the one at Hamme?

Euro Wanderer

09-08-06, 18:08

Anyone seen Cindy or Dilara at Palace lately?

M P Lurker

09-09-06, 05:39

Anyone seen Cindy or Dilara at Palace lately?Did you mean "Dinara" from Khazakstan (damn - I wish I could spell), a really great GFE girl.? Someone already mentioned seeing her not long ago (check previous recent posts) when I asked. Just one week till I get back to FKKs near Frankfurt.

Dedalus

09-09-06, 11:19

Anyone seen Cindy or Dilara at Palace lately?

Cindy has hung up her guns and is no longer working. A huge loss as she was one of the greats.

Dilara was not there on my last visit but I have not heard that she has left.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who is missing Cindy

Mjc6803

09-10-06, 04:37

Euro100

09-10-06, 12:24

I'll be in the Frankfurt area for the first time soon. Questions: Which FKK is closest to the airport? Which is closest to Mainz? Can you give me a general introduction of what to expect and how much I'm likely to spend? I've never been to one before, but reading the threads it seems to be the way to go...please give me the idiot's version of what I should expect. Thanks!

We have all been newbies at some time in our lifes and had the same question that you had. Unfortunately answering these qeustions again and again is a bit boring for most of the senior people on the board. BUT here is exactly what you need: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=498957&postcount=28 This is a tremendously useful summary of the FKK scene that my friend Routard has compiled. Read the entire report, and you will have a good idea on what service and prices to expect. The recommended FKK closest to the airport and also to Mainz is Palace. But Oase is also not far.

have fun
euro

DeepVoid

09-15-06, 22:44

It has been a 6 weeks since I hit Palace during one of my monthly stopovers in Frankfurt. I usually love the place during the day. There are not too many punters, the girls are not very pushy and I can usually get 4 – 5 nice sessions in before I have to head back to FRA.

Well I had my first session with an old favorite from Russia – blonde

Nicolletta - Russian fuzzy blond skinny with deep smokers voice. She is fun but not a star. I went with her to the small kino downstairs where there were already 2 other couples. It was just wonderfully kinky watching myself go in and out from behind (she has a perfect ass to watch) while also watching the other couples who were watching you. The commentary went back and forth like a soccer match. There was nothing intimate about it. Just raw fun.

BBBJ was perfunctory = 5
FS = 7
Kink Factor = 9

Russian Blond – Can’t remember her name but she has blond thinned (toward the end) hair with nice B’s. She is very friendly and kept blowing me kisses. She loves DATY and is very sensual and a wonderful actress. She puts as much into the psychology of the games as the physical.
Face 9
Body 9
BBBJ 8 (was kind of short this time)
FS 9
GFE 8

I went with 3 other girls who have completely slipped my mind. They were good sessions but just not memorable. They included 10 minutes flirting on the couch while smoking a cigarette. Short bbbj on the couch then off to the room. More bbbj, then DATY with finger, she pushes finger away, pretends to cum, then on goes the cover. Mish 10 min, doggy 10 min, cum, 2 seconds chit chat, pay, shower, cola lit ‘mit ice, rest then do it again.

I guess I am getting kind of bored with Palace. The day girls have been pretty much the same crew for over a year with a few changes. The problem is that the minute I get there my old favorites come over and start kissing and touching expecting an instant session. Sometimes I love it but it actually starts to feel like a girlfriend which is the last thing I want at Palace. I guess I will do Oase for a while until the crew changes at Palace.

M P Lurker

09-19-06, 05:02

Nicolletta - Russian fuzzy blond skinny with deep smokers voice. She is fun but not a star.
. . .

I guess I am getting kind of bored with Palace. The day girls have been pretty much the same crew for over a year with a few changes. The problem is that the minute I get there my old favorites come over and start kissing and touching expecting an instant session. Sometimes I love it but it actually starts to feel like a girlfriend which is the last thing I want at Palace. I guess I will do Oase for a while until the crew changes at Palace.

I had a session with Nicholetta a year ago but would not go back. I thought her sex enthusiasm was poor.

A very cute petite polish Brunette aroused my suspicion also. I had seen her a year ago. But lucky I keep notes. Vanessa. It says she was a little business like but still scored well in most categories. So I rated her higher than Nicholetta, but perhaps not good enough to go back probably. Kiss and DATY was perfunctory it seems. Sometimes girls improve a lot. So could give her a chance if no one else great available.

I have just been at the Palace for nearly full 3 days just now. So detailed reports will follow.

I see guys want Utopia. Want to be able to have a new super temporary girlfriend everytime or regularly.

Guys complain when they don't get full GFE but then say they are bored with the same girls snuggling up every time they visit. Isn't that what girlfriends do? I would suggest guys be a little aloof at the venue, and get a reputation for changing girls a lot, except with girls that you are really crazy about.

I only go back to same girl if she is super special or if I am on last session and want someone reliably good (especially after a not so gresat session). The girls don't get too assuming this way.

For the pushy ones I always have the excuse of "pause".

I suppose you guys who are regulars just get bored with all the really good girls there, and there are none left. What a problem!

I would have thought there were enough great girls to be able to cycle them and not get bored.

M P Lurker

09-19-06, 05:08

My visit to The Palace.

Arrived just before lunch time on the Saturday to be able to have a nice brunch with coffee. My last visit to Germany was nearly 6 months ago.

I must explain first that I am a little obsessed with exceptional looks, both face and body. I will choose a fantasy girls that is first visually superb, secondly friendly and not too arrogant, thirdly willing to let herself go and have a good time (rather than just doing a job). If a true GFE, so much the better, but not absolutely essential as we must remember that GFE is not that real with girls you have only just met.
Soon met Elena (or Alena) a tall girl from the black sea (have been with her before). Brunette, C cup breasts and a bigger build than what I normally like.

She gave an OK service but the chemistry was not working this time.

By this time I have met Chris (name changed) at the bar, who was born in Canada, but migrated to Germany at a young age. He speaks English exceptionally well and seems keen to be my new friend for the whole day, so we can chat while recovering between sex bouts. He is on a budget of only 2 sessions with girls but will stay to nearly closing time, so he will need friends to talk to plus lots of girls to talk to avoid getting bored.

Girl 2:

Was considering some other girls, when around 3.30PM Katrin (blonde from the black sea) arrives. My previous sessions with her have always been good, and this time was no exception. Katrin may have lost weight. Although she has a wonderfully curvy body, the breasts are only barely a B cup these days I think but still look very nice. She has an ample bottom and an extremely symmetrical pussy that turns me on greatly just to look at it, or better her to play with it. Went down on that beautiful sweet pussy and used the tongue half sucking and half flicking until she pulled on my head and a huge shudder went through her. She followed with a nice soft BBBJ that made sure I was well worked up. We fucked in several positions since I like to watch my cock going into such a beautiful pussy from every different angle. Doggy allows me to check out her superb arse also. Not only is her pussy beautiful but for me it has a very special feel to it. It has a beautifully soft spongy feel with light squeezing effect. Not for guys who like exceptionally tight pussy. Got so carried away, we went for full hour.

Katrin scores: Face 9, body 9, breasts 8, pussy 10, stamina 8, kiss 8, BBBJ 8, sex 9.5. Not totally GFE, but I am more than happy. In fact it was so good I planned to she again later the same day as I knew she might not be back on the following days.
Discussions with Chris indicate that he is new to the Palace (only his 2nd visit) and was a regular at Oase and World. He says he knows all the girls there and they know him. So now he wants to meet fresh new girls. The Palace has lots of them. It is fast filling up with women and men. I would say 100 girls easily. Chris tells me that there are more really beautiful girls here than at Oase even if the Oase girls may be overall younger. As I am no spring chicken myself, I don’t need girls that are excessively young. Chris must bide his time and choose a girl very carefully and wisely (as he has budget for only 2 times). We spot a little dark skinned sloe-eyed doe (or Bambi should I say). I wonder if she is Thai? Chris tells me to go chat her up and find out.

Girl 3: Yes she is Thai and tiny, with an immaculate bottom like a little firm apple ready for plucking. Her name is Amy. Her breasts are not so small and are assisted but a very nice job. Still soft to the touch. She speaks English a little bit American style as well as German. She politely asks if I am looking for action. I say its a bit soon after previous session, but we could try. Her BBBJ is so talented that it gets me up very quickly to apparently put a lie to me being tied. We have a very nice 69 session. Her pussy is tight and not quite long enough to take me fully but she moves very nicely. I flip her over to enjoy that cute little but well rounded tight bum. I manage to come after a long time and another hour has gone.

Amy scores: Face 7.5, body 9, breasts 8, pussy 8, stamina 8, no kiss, BBBJ 9, sex 8.5.
Chris likes girls voluptuous with big tits. After chatting up many, he decides on Bianca from Romania. She is at least C cup. He reports having a great time, but not much detail. Her face looks familiar. Latter I would work out that I have been with her before.

We meet a another guy from Montreal called Alain (name changed), here in Germany for the Messe perhaps. He is learning to speak Chinese so goes with the only Chinese girl called Coco. I have been with her before so I know her name used to be Nali. Alain says that he is particularly obsessed with Chinese girls but discusses my experiences in Thailand. Chris and I think is a waste of so much talent in European and South American girls for Alain to be only interested in Chinese. However it turns out that later (next day) Alain goes with a German girl with good English and a tall small breasted Polish girl with weak English. Alain admits that the Polish girl was totally natural, a good communicator, pretty much GFE, and by far the best (highly recommended). I will find out the name later.

I go with Katrin a second time By this time its getting close to midnight and there is a short wait for one of the tiny rooms. After a full hour of sex, eventually I make it. I’m really worn out now but think I may try for a 5th session. Will I choose Daniella from Romania, Michelle a wild and kooky one, a Brazil girl, or ... Its annoying that there are so many gorgeous girls needing to be fucked, but juices seem to be low. Need 2 hours to recover perhaps.

But the Palace is getting crazy now after midnight. While early in the evening, guys were slow to choose a girl and go the room, now all the good girls are getting guy after guy easily. You have to get to the good girls quickly before someone else does, even though good girls are plentiful. And if the girls regular customers are there, could be bad luck. Girls are getting frustrated now by long waits for a room. Not every pair wants to go to the big sex room that holds many couples.

So Palace is highly recommended from 3.30PM to 11.30PM on a Friday/Saturday, but later than that gets too crazy. Girls have no time for small talk except while waiting for the room. While the Palace is quite busy every day at this time, other nights are not so crazy, so after midnight not recommended only for Friday and Saturday. Before 3.30PM, the selection of girls is small, but still a few good ones in my view at this time.

Chris and I left together at about 3AM, without me managing to get the ideal girl of my choice for a 5th session. Many Euros gone anyway. Come back Sunday was a better idea and will be next installment.

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Jackyo

09-19-06, 09:40

Iseeu

09-19-06, 13:53

But let me answer the one about the FKK closest to the airport.

Its the "Aldi" at Dietzenbach. Take out a map and Dietzenbach is nearby. Its just to the east of the airport off the A-3.

It's true that geographically Dietzenbach is the closest, but only if you are drivng there from the airport. It is at least an hour to get there by public transportation using buses. Both Palace and Oase are simpler to get to from the airport by train. Depending on stau, it probably takes the same amount of time by taxi to get to Palace as it does to Dietzenbach.

Jackyo

09-19-06, 14:13

It's true that geographically Dietzenbach is the closest, but only if you are drivng there from the airport. It is at least an hour to get there by public transportation using buses. Both Palace and Oase are simpler to get to from the airport by train. Depending on stau, it probably takes the same amount of time by taxi to get to Palace as it does to Dietzenbach.

Let me clarify: the "Aldi" would be the closest geographically. And yes, you would need a car.

If you find yourself near the airport, have time to kill and you have a car, you might think about dropping by.

Routard

09-19-06, 15:24

Jackyo

09-19-06, 15:31

Haha, mon cher Jackyo, you must have some kind of SM background. How could you send a guy to Dietzenbach while Palace, one of the best brothels of the world is only at 10min drive from the airport! I admit, you simply answered his question and the guy should have RTFF before :rolleyes:

You have to admit that his question was answered quite adequately and correctly.. n'est-ce pas?

Has anyone actually been to the "Aldi" in Dietzenbach lately? Would a brave and daring soul be willing to undertake this journey and report back to us?

A friend of mine has a sister who lives in Dietzenbach and she often goes to visit her sister there.

I once had a conversation with her and when this fact came up and I said something like: "Oh, she lives in Dietzenbach." My friend was quite surprised: "And why do you know of Dietzenbach?" I had to backtrack and say something like: "Because its off the A3 near the airport."

Pretty difficult to explain why anyone would go to Dietzenbach on their own.

Toscana

09-19-06, 16:02

Iseeu

09-19-06, 19:42

Well, I haven't been there, but I believe this an FKK which has a passionate pride in loyally serving its exclusive local clientele. In other words, it doesn't let foreigners in, especially if they have darker skins.

I am not 100 per cent sure, but this should be established before directing ISGers out there, whatever the transport.

I have been there, before Palace re-opened. With a long stopover in FRA, I did the public transport thing to get there. I believe that I posted about it at the time. It was OK for me at the time, but then I discovered how easy it was to get to Oase, and I've never gone back. I certainly wouldn't go there again nor suggest to a newbie to try it, with Palace and Oase easily accessible from FRA.

Euro100

09-20-06, 01:36

The place in Dietzenback sucked and still does. Don't waste your time! I was there once and did not find anything worth the second pop, even though tthe second pop is much cheaper than the first one.

Jovon

09-20-06, 22:38

Report #1

€65 entrance fee. Now the place was exactly as before in 2004, except a LOT more energy and fantastic women. I dressed in a blue bathrobe and wandered about for a bit, trying not to stay still and get nailed by a worker I didn’t want. Survey the territory, I says to myself. Must have been 50 females, mostly naked or else in thongs only. Some of them genuine model quality.

I finally decided I had to make a contact, so I sat on one of the couches by the bar. A Russian named Angelica came over and tried to make conversation. Nice girl, but not my type, a bit droopy and not quite hourglass figure. I was polite and talked for a bit, but she got the message and moved off.

A few minutes later this absolute bombshell couple came and sat next to me. Both tall, one blonde the other a dark skinned brunette. Obviously friends, they chatted for a while and smoked, ignoring my glances in their direction. After a while I figured, oh hell they’re not looking for my money, when the blonde finally leaned back and smiled the most dazzlingly beautiful smile and asked my name.

She introduced herself as Sylvie from Poland, and her friend as Nazeera from Turkey. Now they were obviously a pair, and I sensed I was going to be sold a duo job. Looking at this twosome I knew that would spoil two amazing single experiences. Meaning, I can’t handle two fantastically beautiful women at this stage in the game. So I moved over next to Sylvie and we chatted in her reasonable English for a while. She took my hand and was very pleasant and charming. Nazeera stayed put but didn’t interfere or pout. I kept glancing from one to the other, they were both so gorgeous.

Sylvie asked “you want 30 minutes?” - the sweetest words. I followed her to one of the rooms – and I noticed every guy in the place following her with his eyes. Tall, blonde, tanned, slim, tight and perfectly proportioned ass and (enhanced) breasts just right for her body frame. A sinuous tattoo down the small of the back and another across one arm seemed shaped to her body. She strode through the harem with complete confidence in her nudity, and turned to smile at me as I followed.

It wasn’t just her looks but her attitude that turned me on. Once inside, straight to dfk with an open mouth, gently holding my prick and balls with soft hands, stroking me with just the right pressure. She told me most men only last about two minutes with her, and I could see why.

On to the bed for some bbbj, daty, very tasty, completely shaved and utterly beautiful to behold. More kissing and smiles, an incredible attitude, and then 69, followed by mish, and doggy, and then cowgirl. When I held this girl’s slender hips and watched her face in the mirror as I pumped her from behind I thought this might be one of the best mongering experiences ever. She brought me close several times but then changed positions or changed rhythm and I lost it. In the end, she finished me by hand. Not what I had intended but incredibly satisfying just the same.

Sylvie from Poland. Ah. And still smiling and charming afterwards – friendly and interesting. No rush out the door. One of the unforgettable experiences. €50 – what a deal! A kiss to say goodbye. Still smiling, she walked over to another guy at a table and took off with him to another room within about 3 minutes! No jealousy on my part, just fond memories. Good luck to her. May she earn a million bucks.

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Jovon

09-20-06, 22:40

report #2

back to the bar and a ‘cola’ to quench the thirst. now the floor show had started up. girls were cavorting on the pole, sexy dancing to raise the temperature in the place a bit, three girls doing a lesbian act while remaining clothed. i guess the real thing is not legal.

i waited by the pool trying to recuperate, not sure if i was up for another shot after all this. a small moroccan girl named nadia (yeah) came over, very polite and friendly, good natural breasts but fullish hips. “are you resting, or waiting for someone?” good line, not aggressive but down to business. we chatted for a while, again not my type though i have never had a moroccan girl in my life and sort of wondered about it.

next a largish heavy set girl named agatha, from poland, came by. definitely not my type, but i discovered she was a student studying history and literature and making some money on the side a few days a month. intelligent, good english, interesting conversation. she stayed quite a while, considering i made no advance on her body, a warm and charming companion. she moved off eventually, but without the attitude one sometimes sees in those situations.

wandered in to the tv room. a bunch of asian guys there, and a german girl from koln working the room quite aggressively. i watched, fascinated, from a distance. totally naked, she lay down next to one guy, then another, stroking his dick under the towel, leaning her breast into his face. making the sell. the third guy she took after really went for her. she squatted up on all fours and started a really fine blow job, showing us everything she had, including a sizzling technique. must’ve been 20 guys spectating. i started to get hard, and moved off looking for the turkish girl nazeera.

she was by the bar, standing with a guy who didn’t really look interested in her. i sat nearby hoping to make eye contact and lure her away. knowing the rules – don’t interfere in another man’s business – i waited my turn, but she didn’t move off.

meanwhile, next to them at the bar was a stunning blonde in a thong and a black throat choker trying to get some little fat guy interested in a session. she did everything – made him laugh, stroked his leg, stroked his ego, talked up a storm to him, but he just accepted the attention and no more. eventually she was alone, and i moved over to her attracted, i guess, by her personality as well as the body which was slim with mouth watering natural breasts hanging at just the right angle.

stephanie, she said – her real name, she said – german from frankfurt and a check-in ground agent with lufthansa. i was sceptical of course, but we play the game, yet she assured me this was so. late 20s, maybe early 30s, self confident, fabulous language skills, very chatty and with a beautifully expressive face that lit up every few seconds with smiles and laughter as she tried to get me to do the same. i had already decided this girl was to be number two tonight, but she didn’t move in for the sell with any tasteless speed. spent quite a while finding out about me, what i do, what i like, more than the usual perfunctory nonsense.

finally, would i like a massage? sure, says i. it’s quite busy now, she says, would you stay and watch my bag while i go look for a room? that’s trusting, i thought. she comes back with a key, a smile and a beckoning finger, and i’m embarrassingly hard as we walk through the harem again to – as it turns out – the same room in which i had enjoyed sylvie.

stephanie was different. “germans are more temperamental” she says. great english, thought i as she engulfed my bare cock in her talented mouth. where sylvie had been gentle, stephanie was firm and almost hurtful but something about her - the combination of dominant personality, beautiful body and aggressive sexual technique – made me really lustful. same stuff on offer – dfk, daty, all very arousing and skillfully performed – but this time i went quickly to 69 and came within seconds like a volcano after a thousand years.

that was about 10 minutes into the 30, so i figured she’ll get me out of here fast, but instead she sat and let me play with her clit while she talked about the business and the town and her dog and her apartment. you don’t need to lead the conversation with this girl, i realized, she’s just into people in a big way. i intend to fly lufthansa from now on.

i left about 11:00pm (needed to catch the u bahn back into town) totally satisfied and pleased with an incredible evening.

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Akibono

09-21-06, 02:06

Sounds like you got upgraded to first class! I have to give her a try!

Jovon

09-21-06, 04:09

report #3

arrived at the palace about 9:30 pm. knowing the way now, it’s only 20 minutes from the hotel. the first time i went in 200, i took a cab for about €10 each way. now it’s virtually free with the subway pass.

maybe i was a bit too shagged out after the previous night, but the energy seemed low – mine, i mean. and yet, as i sat in a corner sipping a ‘cola’ i realized there were fewer women than friday. and none of the stunners. i was looking for tall nazeera the turk, but she wasn’t there.

i went over to the tv room to get myself in the mood, and enjoyed a couple of voyeur moments. there were about a dozen people in there. one tall, long legged blonde with a nice slim body was pouring herself over a guy on a bed, slowly wanking and kissing him. she moved to another guy when she couldn’t make the sale, and spent a few moments draped all over him doing the same thing. it got me hot just watching her, and i knew i was in the mood. i willed her to come over to me. she could have had my dollars, but she picked up her stuff and left. shit.

back out to the lounge, i sat on a couch with space available next to me. a long time went by, and i sensed a low ebb in the place. i guess some nights are just magic and others flat for some indefinable reason. two germans came by, nadia and someone else, ones i had seen the night before and wasn’t much interested in, a strongly built tanned blonde with small breasts and a brunette with a gorgeous face but too many doughnuts for breakfast. they were pleasant but i wasn’t interested in a threesome.

i was just starting to think maybe not tonight, when i made one trip back to the tv room and found alessandra from brazil. she came and stretched out next to me like a cat, light brown skin, dark eyes, a simply gorgeous face and a tight lithe body. not an amazon like other brazilians i have known, but i’m experienced enough to know that they are the world’s most sexual women and you just can’t go wrong.

we talked at first. she had some english, me some german (no portugese), and it was fun trying to understand each other. modest manner, flashing eyes and a smile to melt your heart, i decided i was going to spend some money here, and willed her to come on to me more aggressively, but she was just easy going and left it up to me.

from mongering in rio i remembered the word ‘beijo’ meaning kiss, and she smiled, leaned over and gave me the most fucking erotic kiss i’ve ever had on this earth. it was a toe curler. man, that was it. off to the room and the most unhurried mutually pleasurable sex for well over the 30 minutes i paid for. as i say, you just can’t go wrong with brazilians.

she started out kneeling down in front of me, legs apart looking me right in the eyes doing bbbj. mother of god, she was good. i love gazing down on to the face, the breasts, the open legs and the valley between while getting my nuts licked. on to the bed, she pouted her ass at me in the most provocative manner, and i licked and tasted every part of everything. very sweet, and no fake moaning, just the occasional intake of breath and suppressed gasps. the silence became urgent.

lots of beijo, and then on with the raincoat and straight to cowgirl, needing no oil or jelly. oh hell, she was tight but slick, and moved on top of me like a samba dancer at carnival. now i could feel the strength of her body, the supple dancer’s muscles and the revolving circle of experienced hips. she started to show her prowess, no longer the modest maiden but a woman in control of her man. i just love being fucked by a real professional, you almost have to stand back and admire the art of it, except i just roared and let it all go in a fantastic release.

she smiled too, that’s what put me over. such a smile.

and afterwards, no rush. a towel, pillows thrown down beside me, and more conversation in our halting multi-lingual fashion with her hand cradling my cock. i paid her the €50 and went for a shower, not bothering to stop grinning, and then grabbed some wurst and sauerkraut from the food bar to staunch a mighty hunger. behold, there she was doing the same thing, sitting at a table all alone. i asked if i could join her and we carried on our chat – me in the blue bathrobe and her gorgeously naked on a stool, wearing silver jewelry. i just love this place. half an hour later she gave me a polite but warm kiss and said “gotta go!”

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Ortos

09-21-06, 04:51

"Sylvie from Poland. Ah. And still smiling and charming afterwards – friendly and interesting. No rush out the door. One of the unforgettable experiences. €50 – what a deal! A kiss to say goodbye. Still smiling, she walked over to another guy at a table and took off with him to another room within about 3 minutes! No jealousy on my part, just fond memories. Good luck to her. May she earn a million bucks."

Thanks, Jovon, for these great glimpses into Palace these days.

But one question about Silvie from Poland: Didn't she even take a shower or anything before she moved on to another session after you?

Ortos

M P Lurker

09-22-06, 05:20

Sorry, have been a little too busy mongering to get my reports in promptly.
So here are my next 4 sessions on my 2nd day of my mongering fest.

Bianca (Romania) medium height voluptuous Dark blonde with C cup. This was not the same Bianca from a year ago. She has changed a lot. Lost weight, hair colour changed from platinum blonde to dark honey and styled differently. Makeup more conservative (severe black lip outlines gone now). Doesn’t hang at the top bar anymore and has new friends. Gets a lot more customers now and looks like a happier girl. The sex session was very good and good enough for a repeat but I will save the details for the 2nd session with Bianca which was more superb (on day 3). However its worth noting that she played a little game with me. I said that I thought I knew from before when she had different hair, perhaps 6 months ago. She said no, she wasn’t here 6 months ago. So I said that perhaps was a year ago. Anyhow when she said her name was Bianca I was not quite sure it was a girl I had been with 1 year ago. I even remembered the Romanian bit. But she thought it unlikely we had met. After the room session was done and I admitted that she was very good indeed for me, only then she admitted that she remembered me from a year ago. She was scared to admit knowing me at first for fear I would not go with her. Does this mean they assume guys always want a new girl or does it mean that even if I didn’t like the old Bianca, perhaps I would like the new one. While the session was good in almost every way she didn’t really kiss so not to GFE status.

Daniella (Romania): Platinum blonde with the tall boots (today red boots with black stockings that stay up by themselves). Possibly the best tight body of all the girls in the Palace, unless you go for the really full voluptuous figures. Tits magnificent but only B cup I guess. Was complaining of being a bit worn out after working several days straight and said the Palace has been very busy every day. I offered a little massage which was gratefully accepted. Massaged her shoulders first which were really not so tight but rather quite soft. She then asked for a hand massage which surprised me. On asking she replied that her hands were quite sore from giving hand jobs. I was surprised. “You mean a girl as hot as yourself needs to give a lot of hand jobs? Well not needed for me I think.” Having worked on her hands, she comments: “Mick, you should get a job here at the Palace as a masseur. It would pay well you know” I think she is being a rather sweet talker, for while I have been trained in massage, was many years ago and not that much practice. “What would you like to do?”, she asks. She should know what I like but seems to have forgotten since 6 months ago. I demonstrate with my tongue. She then asks, “Did I have orgasmus last time?” and I must say “Well yes unless you were pretending”. She replies “Oh no, I don’t pretend! If I have one, it is real, but only have one sometimes”. So its time to live up to my name. Daniella is really into DATY. After a while, some strong spasms and I am nearly drowning in extra fluids. Its my turn now. Her BBBJ is not the best in the place but quite good all the same. The sex is great as she can go for a long time. Nice kisser but not quite a full GFE perhaps. Eventually I must flip her over. Doggy with a bottom to die for, is fantastic. Eventually I make it, and realise it has been a 60 minute session. She has offered me anal sex also, but I have declined indicating that her pussy is already quite tight enough for me. Not exactly

Nichole (Dominican Republic): Medium height voluptuous black girl (best looking of the bunch). Fabulous lips. Very shy and often just sat in the corner of the swing room. I guessed she was a newbie. We got off to a slow start since she appeared not to understand basic English or basic German. However I came back later determined. It turned out best to let her do most of the talking which was a little English that she knew and some basic Spanish which I could understand only the very simple. But when 2 people want to have sex, almost no verbal communication is not such a barrier. She did not complain at all about anything I did to her, although not full on deep tongue kissing. She seemed to enjoy a good DATY session and even some how came out with the word “specialist”. But no orgasm I guess as didn’t move much (no acting at all). She played with my cock while I had 2 fingers up her pussy exploring the depths. Nothing strange in there. I was so eager that I didn’t other to wait for a blow job. Wacked on the condom and jumped in. Her hip movements were very expert. She knew how to make it hit her G spot just right. Her moans and bucking suggested that she was now very much into it. Possibly orgasmed but not sure. Was wonderful sex for me. Would love to see her again in case she needs any training in what to do in the room, or even if she doesn’t she can teach me Spanish any time.

Linda Czech/Scott tall with a chest of 75 F cup (like small American footballs). A big girl but not fat. Linda has a lot of customers (which shows just how talented she is, that guys just keep coming back). Has a very sweet manner for guys that are nice to her also. We hadn’t linked up for some time as usually she comes to me when I have just had a session and need recovery. However this time we caught each other when both of us were available. However when I warned that I would be difficult with almost no juice left, she said she liked a hard job and that almost all of her customers recently said they were up to 4th session or more (I figured some exaggeration here). She asked if I had seen the other girl with even bigger tits (like part deflated soccer balls but look real). I replied that they were too big for me. She replied that while she was F cup, the other girl was 2 to 3 times bigger and must be an X cup or well beyond the limit if cup size doesn’t go all the way to X. A little kissing first which she does very softly and sweetly with big soft lips. She lets me do DATY for a little while but is eager to get my cock in her mouth. Her BBBJ is soft and slow and is probably the most expert going IMHO. Did I want to CIM? No thanks, I wanted some real sex. Her pussy was soft and accommodating and I enjoyed pounding it for an extended period while she played with my balls. Eventually she got me to come. I was hot and bothered as usual. A satisfying finish for the day.

Was just before 2AM but the Palace is not so crazy on the Sunday but still many girls and quite busy. Went back to Hotel for sleep.

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M P Lurker

09-22-06, 05:31

sounds like me and jovon should have crossed paths several times but its hard to tell an isg member from looks. i had intended to go to oase but was having such a good time was too lazy to get to oase by train and taxi. so here are the day 3 girls:

oksanna (spelling?) (russian) tall 175cm, very slim with just an a cup. this was my first session where i allowed the girl coming up to talk to me, to win me. i was already interested a little and i liked her style. not at all aggressive. after a chat we went to sit somewhere more comfortable, and you know the drill. soon we started kissing and she would start playing with my cock as per normal. her kissing was very girlfriend style and made me hard quite quickly. in the room her kissing was just as good. but had to stop when i wanted daty. she was into it in a big way and got worked up very quickly with my fast very light continuous flicking on the clit. after only 5 or 10 mins she experienced one of the more unusual orgasms. the contractions of her vagina were so strong that it caused air to gush in and out under some compression force making gushing squelching noises (that sound somewhat impolite). i have experienced these noises with air suddenly escaping when a dick was the pump, but this time no dick involved. her pussy could then get a break when she gave me bbbj. she was just a little to strong and fast at first but i coached down to the soft and slow way i prefer. next she decided she would like to ride me for a while. possibly because she was quite small and currently sensitive so riding me put her in control. however we did change to doggy where her arse was just a little to high for my comfort which could easily be fixed by a pillow under my knees. also had missionary sex and i was careful to go softly for her sensitive pussy. deep tongue kissing at the same time as sex got me to a great orgasm. total gfe experience. her bbbj would only score 7 to 8. this would be the only weak point besides very small tits. her tight pussy will please most.

cora (romania) tall brunette with perfect c cup breasts with nipples slightly turned up and great cleavage without help from a bra. scores a 10 for the breasts and 9 close to a 10 for the bbbj but still cannot be recommended by me. sex was very weak for me! she got on top so that she could control that only half my dick went into her. also was too concerned when i spread gel on the condom on my dick using my fingers. “your hand is dirty! now you must change the condom. my pussy is sensitive” (all this from a girl who claimed not to be able to speak english, but could when she wanted to). forced me to change condoms which is already a big turn-off for me. still very scared of my dick so i decided to finish with her bbbj which was good. no cim only because i didn’t want to pay extra.

frederika (czech) 19 year old medium height brunette with very firm high big c cup breasts (look slightly suspicious but actually real) her breasts may still be growing and so the skin is stretched tight. she seems to be linda’s apprentice. she even wears a scarf similar to linda but draped differently. another girl into daty. her pussy had very nice soft padding and she became very wet indeed at the end with lots of juices flowing from her spasms. her bbbj was a 9 (obviously well trained). i struggling to remember a lot more about the session other than was all good, so highly recommended. her kissing was quite nice too. her figure is slightly on the puffy side for me but not to chubby. can’t recall any weaknesses. i do recall how nice her padded pussy feels though.

bianca (again): she has been working at improving her image but still considers herself to be a little bit fat. others would say voluptuous with a c cup. so this was the girl who looked very different too a year before and was improved in personality as well. her pussy looked very nicely shaved and ripe for a good licking. i had her lay back and relax. she slowly got into it, and the moans started by i sensed my light fast flicking tongue wasn’t really getting to her. changing to long soft lip pull strokes on her clit was getting a greater response as was a firm lick motion of the tongue from under the base of the clit through to the tip. after we had been going perhaps 20 minutes she could tell that i wasn’t going to give up easily. she later admitted that at this point she decided to concentrate on letting herself go. eventually after adjusting my techniques according to the level of her moaning and squirming, i got her to the boding wracking spasms of a good orgasm. she thanked me profusely saying that i had done a good job and that in the end had to allow herself to make it (she said that she wouldn’t let herself come to frequently as would make her lazy for the following 2 hours). she soon put a lie to this, by a very nice bbbj (not at all lazy). i enjoyed watching my dick plunging in and out of her pussy as it was a very cute looking slit. she clearly enjoyed watching as well, because she lifted one leg high and one low so that her body was turned toward the long mirror and we both got a superb view. felt like we were making a soft porno, if a rather tame one, but i’m not that kinky. a had no difficulty coming this time despite a 2nd day of 4 sessions which is normally a bit much for me (ain’t so young now). we chatted some more. she said that i shouldn’t book her again tonight and expect her to orgasm again, but that tomorrow would be o.k. when not too busy and plenty of recovery time available. i had already hinted that i had enjoyment enough to come back for more tomorrow.

i was still thinking about a final session with linda but finally decided that sleep would be a better idea.

a myth goes round that working girls never come. in my experience some are willing to orgasm perhaps once every 3 days, particularly when not busy and when recovery time is available, or perhaps last thing before going home. some girls (perhaps very few) are willing to orgasm more than once and are not scared of being tired at all or perhaps have just been missing out some, if difficult for them to make it. maybe some are good enough actresses to fake the shuddering spasms but sometimes the signs are unmistakable. of course many customers will not waste there valuable room time to get a slow girl to the peak, but i am warped, so i sometimes do. once had a thai girl that was happy for me to lick her out for a full hour no problem with the meter ticking, but that was excessive annoying since i was paying. i decided that would only go that far again if some of the time was waved. on the other hand a slightly older woman at a fkk once offered me a completely free session when business was slow and she was frustrated and knew my daty emphasis.

final day report still coming.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.