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Just to add to the debate..
I was there last feb on a slow day. From 6 pm till about 2 am, interrupted by a short nap at the Ibis.
I had one of my best evenings at the Palace.
What everyone writes is in essence true, what differs is 1) How you feel yourself and what are your expectations and 2) whether it is buyer's or seller's market.
On the day I was there, it was a buyer'smarket, and remained so all night.
I was not expecting much, I was a bit tired, had travelled and mongered a lot during the previous days.
Decided to take my time and looked around. chatted breifly with a few girls., then moved to the kino, took the top row position and waited. Within 15 min I saw most of the girls coming, chatting and more. Good way to asess. Althou8gh quite a lot of action in teh kino itself, which helps in assessing, although we allknow that what happens in teh kino may be different form what happens in the room....
Anyway , to make short of a long evening, I had for successfull ( means to completion) sessions, which is not too bad for a 55+ guy, 2 with Romanians, one of them Deborah, 1 with Spaniard Christina and one with Domincan Kim (?)Kim chatted wit me for long period of time in the kino, let me handle her fantastic bum till i finally decided to tatse it. I got AR, DATY,CIM and Anal all that for 150. The unnamed Romanian was the less interesting. Deborah was really great. I had her in the kino till completion. I believe that girls know they are being watched in the kino and therfore tend to deliver great there. And Christina, although by far not the most good looking, is a fantastic provider.
So, to each its own...
Enjoy wherever you go!.
PS: I have been also to Oase and world and even Atlantis in the good old days. I prefer Palace set up, where you can more or less see everything from the bar. And it's so conveneint when you just have a short evening in FRA. But i will go back to Oase in the summer.
Hessen Bub
03-20-07, 16:42
It's tough for the newbie visitor to distinguish who are the "old" and "who" are the new...except this business of bringing up the "Zimmer" within 20 seconds of first conversation is a bit of a give-away, no?
True, but in World or Oase or any other club you also have to separate the good from the bad somehow. That will always be the 50-Euro-problem for newbies - and for all others as well. Good we do have the forums.
Hessen Bub
Thanks to those of you that took a couple of minutes to help with my questions. Could I be so forward to ask for a few top 10 lists?
A. Top 10 girls to spend time with.
B. Top 10 girs to avoid at all costs.
Looking forward to the adventure and reporting back with my own findings!
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girl 1
then, in walks the girl i saw at the reception, yummy.
she looked like brittany murphy,22, slim, enhanced breasts, chin length hair tied up brunnette but with all over blonde highlights, tattoo on her middle back in chinese that she says is just a pattern.blue eyes (only noticeable from close).
i called her over and as my friends were near me i beckoned her to the theatre. immediately yshe starts to blow me. wait, i want to talk for 10 seconds first i say, why the mad rush? she replies talk costs money. fair enough i thought. then, back to business, i go to touch her breast, she pulls my hand away and says in the room only. i start to wonder.
i decide to just cut to the chase and goto the room.
in the room i gave her a quick 5 minute massage and then she flips over to give me a decent bbbj. i go to play with her pussy and she just gives this look of "here we go". no kissing, no touching her breast. nothing. she actually slapped my hand away when i tried touching her breast again and said i told you no touching!
im thinking, ive been done! there is a first for everything.
avoid this girl at all costs.
sounds like julia to me. been there and done that. was she wearing boots?
beffen
The reports from Toscana and Dreams are on opposite sides of the spectrum! I hope my first visit next month is on the positive side.
Besides Palace and Oase, are there any other FKK or those all-you-can-eat-buffet type places within a reasonable distance of Frankfurt base, and accessible by public transportation?
Elisa,
is she tall?
name sounds like the one i was sceptical about in my post below.
Sounds like Julia to me. Been there and done that. Was she wearing boots?
beffen
yes, i think she was, kind of cowboy boots if i recall.
but julia defo doesnt ring any bells.
At first I thought it was Julia too, until I read the bit about brunette with blonde highlights. Julia is a completely (bleached) blonde, and has rather small-sized chinese characters down her back. She usually wears hair in a ponytail.
Elysse: is very tall and leggy and has (now) brown hair and a tattoo on left shoulder, not chinese characters down spine.
There is another brunette, tall and tan, called Lara I think (or maybe Clara). This girl has a tatoo with huge-sized oriental characters down her spine. She is completely brunette and I don't think she wears boots. She is naturally quite tall.
So the name search for your mystery Romanian goes on...
Ortos
Thanks to those of you that took a couple of minutes to help with my questions. Could I be so forward to ask for a few top 10 lists?
A. Top 10 girls to spend time with.
B. Top 10 girs to avoid at all costs.
Looking forward to the adventure and reporting back with my own findings!
... a blacklist.
Its not been updated for a while though.
Sorry. I can't recall the post number.
Alex P Keaton
03-22-07, 02:45
Sorry. I can't recall the post number.
The post number is 1513.
The post number is 1513.
As with my indexing project, I'll do an update when I have time.
Jackyo and APK, thank you for the help.
Does sound like selectiveness will be key at Palace.
Any "musts" on the to-do list?
ok.
let me make it easy.
1. she is romanian, no suprises here!
2. The is about 5ft 5
3. Enhanced breast that look like these http://www.pinkems.com/out.php?t=1&id=759
but the nipple higher up.
4. She looks VERY much like brittany murphy.
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4PJjwJG0NcAonOjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12sjl8oeg/EXP=1174659401/**http%3A//www.rumela.com/albums/brittany_murphy/brittany_murphy19.sized.jpg
hair is shorter though, same colour.
and has 1 inch in height letters down the middle of her back
Ekliges Lauern
03-22-07, 19:18
jackyo and apk, thank you for the help.
does sound like selectiveness will be key at palace.
any "musts" on the to-do list?i like alot of different type of women, but here's my current repeat list:
yellow fever:
chinese koko
thai pom
both are sweet and the sex is very girlfriend-like. pom is kino friendly, koko less so.
kino bj queens
greek anna, not the prettiest girl, but very orally talented
czech linda, she will really try to be what ever you want her to be to seperate you from your euros.
probably kino friendly, but had great fun with them in the room:
turkish aleeta, cute if you like the turkish look and a nice bj and fuck
czech vicky, if you like tiny [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girls that can deliver really good dirty sex, she's a great choice.
there are a few others on my repeat list that i haven't gotten their names down.
no woman is a "must do". one man's meat is another man's poison.
So I guess sommething like this:
I had a pretty miserable time at Palace last Saturday night.
"Hallo,
ich war am vergangenen Samstagabend spät bei Euch „Gast“. Es war bei weitem nicht das erste Mal, aber höchstwahrscheinlich das letzte.
Nach einer Anreise von mehreren Stunden wurde ich – wie immer eigentlich guter Laune und auf keinen Fall etwa angeheitert - von einer älteren Dame mit sehr frecher Lippe begrüsst, so herzlich eigentlich, dass ich nachgefragt habe, ob ich überhaupt willkommen sei. Schwersten Herzens hat sie mir Einlass gewährt.
Was folgte, war noch schlechter. Nach dem Motto: es gibt FKK-Mädchen, die arbeiten, und es gibt FKK-Mädchen, die bei Palace sind. Von den vier Mädchen, die ich kennengelernt habe, war bei dreien nach Ankunft im Zimmer nicht die Spur einer Arbeitsmoral zu erkennen. Ziel war es, den Kunden schnellstmöglich abzufertigen und dabei so wenig wie möglich zu leisten. Dabei vergessend, dass nicht alle Gäste ahnungslose Touristen sind, und dass der Klub eigentlich auch von Stammgästen lebt. Ein Jammer. Sie können sich vorstellen, wie aussichtsreich eine Beschwerde bei meiner Freundin am Eingang gewesen wäre.
Ich kenne FKK-Klubs im ganzen Lande. Es war nicht immer so bei Palace, aber bei dieser Entwicklung ist Ihr Klub auf dem besten Weg, die beispielhafte FKK-Tradition zu ruinieren."
Hey Tosc.,
Pretty much my impressions of the place in the months leading up to the price increase. I sure would like to believe the reports of the few who tell me that Palace is not so bad and that the joint is worth the extra dough, but from your post (and quite a few others that I have read) it does not sound like much has changed for the better. Doch, eher schlechter.
Not an issue for me so much as I have a car and 10 Euros buys a few roundtrips to Oase.
Cheers,
Dedalus
So I guess sommething like this:
THATS HER!!!!
WELL DONE!
she was YUMMY!!!
BUT TERRIBLE IN THE ROOM.
Avoid at ALL costs.
Jackyo and APK, thank you for the help.
Does sound like selectiveness will be key at Palace.
Any "musts" on the to-do list?
I would never create a "must do" list for any club as its all a matter of taste or as the Germans say, a Geschmacksache.
The guys I hang out with in the RF avoid Optikficks like the plague. I never used to understand this but as time has gone by I've come to adopt the same thinking: its not what she looks like, its her Ausstrahlung or aura which matter.
I've had really bad experiences with women who look great but don't provide any interactivity. Its like screwing a dead fish.
So my tastes run towards women who are less professional, who are communicative and funny; in a word: interactive. They sometimes are the best looking women in the room but sometimes they aren't.
I've had really bad experiences with women who look great but don't provide any interactivity. Its like screwing a dead fish.
So my tastes run towards women who are less professional, who are communicative and funny; in a word: interactive. They sometimes are the best looking women in the room but sometimes they aren't.
Fair point. But there are indeed a number of smokin' hot girls in the clubs who do provide top service. Plus, with all due respect to a number of those RF guys, some of them can be a tad stubborn with that formula. I will certainly agree with you about reading a girl's Ausstrahlung and how important that is.
Interesting that a lot of RF guys scoff at the "Optikficks" yet quite a few of them would crawl through broken glass to have a session with Donna. Now I click pretty well with Donna also, but she is far from the greatest session that I have ever had, and I would not go to Palace for her alone, nor would I pay the high rates that she commands for "outside club work". Also, she is pretty artificial looking. Now again, I don't hold that against her and since I am kind of shallow and "oberflächlich" I really dig her looks. But it is interesting to note the number of RF guys who hate "Silis" and overdone makeup, yet who await with bated breath any news of Donna's whereabouts.
Cheers,
Dedalus, Optikfick lover
Yes, you certainly learn to take the RF reports with a large pinch of salt. There's a lot of ego-burnishing going on there.
I'm like Dedalus, I am afraid, I am a sucker for the hot looks, and always looking for the perfect combination of looks and attitude. It's there, even at Palace, it's the sifting which is so darned hard, especially if you do not go there often and do not know the good ones.
What is so depressing is the inevitability of the ripoff attitude at Palace. I was quite ruthless, turning down so many girls with clearly the wrong attitude. But even then, I managed to land poor performers among the ones I approached, good-lookers though they may be. I mean, for my sins, I'm no newbie. If I'm having this trouble, the first-timers need a lot of luck indeed. They would have a fair chance at almost any other FKK.
What can you do? Well, if the Palace management took it seriously (they don't care, the business is running well), they might stop the girls approaching for a while, and see how that goes. That might make life a bit more difficult for the lazy and their pimps. Artemis is the reference on this in my book. But I don't see it happening.
New to FKK, can't wait to visit next week when in Frankfurt. I love Turkish and Indian women. Any chance I will meet some women of exotic ethnicity? Or is it almost all Eastern Europeans (which is ok too :-) )
I'm like Dedalus, I am afraid, I am a sucker for the hot looks, and always looking for the perfect combination of looks and attitude. It's there, even at Palace, it's the sifting which is so darned hard, especially if you do not go there often and do not know the good ones.
What is so depressing is the inevitability of the ripoff attitude at Palace. I was quite ruthless, turning down so many girls with clearly the wrong attitude. But even then, I managed to land poor performers among the ones I approached, good-lookers though they may be. I mean, for my sins, I'm no newbie. If I'm having this trouble, the first-timers need a lot of luck indeed. They would have a fair chance at almost any other FKK.
What can you do? Well, if the Palace management took it seriously (they don't care, the business is running well), they might stop the girls approaching for a while, and see how that goes. That might make life a bit more difficult for the lazy and their pimps. Artemis is the reference on this in my book. But I don't see it happening.
My sentiments precisely!! I just got tired of sifting through the shit to get to a little bit of shinola. For 75 Teuros it really ought to be easier to hit upon a good session. Personally I hope that the place gets bitten squarely in the butt after Messezeit and when the Spring and Summer hits, and no one wants to spend those nice days indoors. May the free market kick them right in the keister.
Cheers,
Dedalus
My sentiments precisely!! I just got tired of sifting through the shit to get to a little bit of shinola. For 75 Teuros it really ought to be easier to hit upon a good session. Personally I hope that the place gets bitten squarely in the butt after Messezeit and when the Spring and Summer hits, and no one wants to spend those nice days indoors. May the free market kick them right in the keister.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Ahh...Dear Dedalus...You sound like such an angry young monger...exuding such hostility...at Palace, you former club of the year.
Don't forget your roots, boy! This is where you sowed so many wild oats into a few prime providers...
Yes, some of them have gone into the sunset, and yes there are hurdles at Palace, but, call me a shit-sifter, I've luckily see through it quite well and can manage to avoid the pitfalls. Perhaps, as Toscana says, being a frequent visitor and knowing who's who does bear distinct benefits. But that is true in any club.
I think there well may not be a good reason to hit Palace if you are based in the Golden Triangle of NRW, but Palace does have a very good side, even these days, if you know how to play this field...There are times this club brings back vibes (and selection) of the old Atlantis like no other club...for me, at least...
Ortos
Fair point. But there are indeed a number of smokin' hot girls in the clubs who do provide top service. Plus, with all due respect to a number of those RF guys, some of them can be a tad stubborn with that formula. I will certainly agree with you about reading a girl's Ausstrahlung and how important that is.
Interesting that a lot of RF guys scoff at the "Optikficks" yet quite a few of them would crawl through broken glass to have a session with Donna. Now I click pretty well with Donna also, but she is far from the greatest session that I have ever had, and I would not go to Palace for her alone, nor would I pay the high rates that she commands for "outside club work". Also, she is pretty artificial looking. Now again, I don't hold that against her and since I am kind of shallow and "oberflächlich" I really dig her looks. But it is interesting to note the number of RF guys who hate "Silis" and overdone makeup, yet who await with bated breath any news of Donna's whereabouts.
Cheers,
Dedalus, Optikfick lover
.. I have to admit that every now and then the visuals kick in and I do go with an Optikfick.
Its a weakness - this is true.
Sometimes they actually aren't bad, other times I am totally disappointed with the "look at me, ain't I pretty and don't I have an awesome bod.. and because of this I don't have to do any work" attitude.
I do set my expectations low though when she looks drop dead gorgeous so at least she has a way of exceeding my expectations.
.. I have to admit that every now and then the visuals kick in and I do go with an Optikfick.
Its a weakness - this is true.
Sometimes they actually aren't bad, other times I am totally disappointed with the "look at me, ain't I pretty and don't I have an awesome bod.. and because of this I don't have to do any work" attitude.
I do set my expectations low though when she looks drop dead gorgeous so at least she has a way of exceeding my expectations.
I must confess I am not sure what it is all about with the optificks. I do not claim to be a super monger or have a special nose for good sessions, but I rarely find difference in performance based on looks. I do however sometimes find that somewhat mature ladies have more tricks up their sleeve, but that's all. IMHO, I think the "pretty and therfore bad performer" is a myth to much extent. I think in many cases, optifick is an optifick if you want it to be an optifick. Sometimes it may however be that one will find more in common with somewhat mature ladies that have been around and are able to converse about more than 50 Cent's latest album and therefore you put in more effort where you feel more at ease doing so.
In short: IMO I think that it depends a lot on our own approach to the session
Chivaz
Ahh...Dear Dedalus...You sound like such an angry young monger...exuding such hostility...at Palace, you former club of the year.
Don't forget your roots, boy! This is where you sowed so many wild oats into a few prime providers...
Actually, I sowed most of my FKK wild oats, cut my FKK teeth on, and have my FKK roots from clubs like Babylon, PHG and Oase. Three clubs where, back in the day, the attitude that is now displayed at Palace would never have been tolerated.
For that matter, if I wanted to visit a club solely for nostalgia and for hopes that the good ole' days would return, then I would be at Babylon every weekend, but alas, the glory days of that place are far in the past. If things were to change, then I would make a run to Elsdorf. If things change in Hausen, then I might visit Palace again.
Right now, most Laufhäuser are a better deal.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Right now, most Laufhäuser are a better deal.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Now that is a bit far-fetched, no?
Now that is a bit far-fetched, no?
Not really. If I go to Palace, spend 75 plus 50 on a girl who has a Laufhaus mentality (which quite a few of them there do!) then I could just as easily get the same type of session for less money in an actual Laufhaus. At Palace I need to have the good fortune that at least a few non-Laufaus types are working, which it does not sound as if there is such a good guarantee of.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Not really. If I go to Palace, spend 75 plus 50 on a girl who has a Laufhaus mentality (which quite a few of them there do!) then I could just as easily get the same type of session for less money in an actual Laufhaus. At Palace I need to have the good fortune that at least a few non-Laufaus types are working, which it does not sound as if there is such a good guarantee of.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Don't forget, you are the great Dedalus! You are not a green newbie, who might indeed be easily caught up in the nets of rip-off artists found at Palace (and, for that matter, at almost any large club these days...). There is some movement between clubs by the girls so, theoretically, you could meet some of these rip-off agents at Palace, Oase, GT, Artemis or even World.
Actually, based on my visits in 2007, the picture is not at all as bad as you paint it. Yes, there are some bad apples there; yes, the place can get over-run during Messe and weekends; and yes, you cannot count on the club management to police the situation. However, I've found the selection there to be so vast, and containing lots of girls that I know from personal experience will provide a very good session. Many of these girls you know too and swear by them. And, as regards, finding new girls to session with: I strongly believe that an experienced FKK-man like you, with the eyes you have, would not be taken for a ride at Palace. I think to call the place no better than a Laufhaus is, based on my recent experiences, an exaggeration.
By the way: When did you personally make your last visit to Palace? December '06? or October '06? Just wondering...
Ortos
Cicciolino
03-24-07, 15:21
After a long time, I had some business to do in Frankfurt and the possibility to visit Palace twice.
I got shocked about the crash of quality. Most of the great girls I met there in the past left, the Palace is packed full of ugly ripp-off rumanian chicks, only interested in fast money for no service. Sure, there are still some pearls but very difficult to locate. The risk picking up a shit is very high. The management does not care at all about. I strongly recommend not visiting this club anymore.
There are enough alternatives with quality and style in Frankfurt where you can get more for less!
There are enough alternatives with quality and style in Frankfurt where you can get more for less!
Please do elaborate on this...Where exactly inside Frankfurt can one get more for less? I'd love to know...
By the way: When did you personally make your last visit to Palace? December '06? or October '06? Just wondering...
Ortos
Hey Man,
Dec. '06.
I will also admit that my last session at Palace was a great one spent with Maria. Who I do indeed swear by. I would also swear by Inna and Karla/Georgia. I would give Eva (Danish by way of Lithuania) high marks although she ain't what she was when she was at Oase and World. I am also a Donna-Fan. Caveat Emptor: She can be a less than satisfying session if a certain click is not there, and I know a number of Gents who have had this problem with her. I still think highly of Dilara, who is always a good session.
The problem, Ortos, is that none of these except for Dilara, can be counted on to be at Palace on a regular basis. They all work sporadically and it is "catch as catch can" as to whether they will be there or not. Otherwise you have to deal with the Laufhaus-Gang and I still am trying to figure out how those girls got off at Nürnberg.
Toscana said it all in his post. The Palace management does not care how the girls behave, so long as the men keep coming through the door. The clubs location is great. Too bad the talent isn't.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Cicciolino
03-25-07, 03:06
Please do elaborate on this...Where exactly inside Frankfurt can one get more for less? I'd love to know...
It depends what you search, a club or a girl in a private. If you search a club, for sure Palace is in the very center but I am willing to drive some miles to get something better, at Oase or FKK World or another Club. What I want is a correct and good service and if it fails that the clubs management take care on the customers. Sure, I know to help myself, I am not a newby and I never pay a cent for a ripp-off service but I saw and spoke to so many frustrated visitors of Palace and that's time for an alert!
If you search a beautiful girl in a private, I can recommend Rita. She is great, performs a very good service for a reasonable price. There are as well a lot of beautiful and good escorts available.
This was also the case on Saturday. I rejected at least ten girls who approached, all of them Romanians, and all because they wanted to go to “Zimmer” within twenty seconds of saying hi. What is more, on closer observation, it was quite clear by the end that many were being orchestrated by a handful of young shaven-haired “guests”, their pimps to all intents and purposes.This is the first I hear of this, pimps as guests in FKK !? I thought the whole point of going to FKK was to get away from all this crap (dealing with pimps).
Can someone elaborate on this, what do they do these guests/pimps, are they hassling guys who resist being ripped off.
Do the management know about this, or are they the management
Can someone elaborate on this, what do they do these guests/pimps, are they hassling guys who resist being ripped off.
Do the management know about this, or are they the management
It's not the dangerous sort of ruthless, sometimes violent pimping, that definitely would not be tolerated by the management, because the tourists would disappear. Chances are you will not notice it, even less that you will run into the guys directly.
But they are there. Typically, as I observed, they are young good-looking guys, not unfriendly to the girls. They are orchestrating them, encouraging them to approach new customers. I bet they are the ones who bring them over to Germany, with (realistic) promises of much higher earnings than they can have in rural Transylvania or wherever. Do you really think these 18-20 girls have the knowledge, language and experience to get themselves over to Frankfurt to work in an FKK, paperwork, accommodation, transport etc.? They are looked after, presumably for a cut.
One of the sessions I aborted outside the room, was when the girl I was meant to be going with went up and hugged one of these guys, and started joking around with him. I understood she said to him, I'll only be five minutes, so I said I thought it's thirty and walked away. Two minutes later there was a huddle of girls with this guy, who hadn't realised I was in tow, but clearly saw the results.
So, they are part of the scene, and not only at Palace. And of course they pay their entrance, no doubt taking full advantage of any frequent flyer bonuses. Ditto World.
Sebastiane
03-25-07, 21:55
I have recently moved to Frankfurt from the UK for job purposes and have visited a number of prostitutes since I love sex! I went to the varios Eros Centres near the Hauptbahnof and had some interesting experiences along with some crap ones too--although I did find one stunning girl there called Valerie, a Hungarian, who, for the right amount of money, gave me some excellent fucking sessions. However I soon got bored of these Centers as most of the girls aren't that attractive. Anyway I heard from a couple of taxi drivers that there was a place called The Palace which had the most beautiful girls. At first I just thought it was another Eros Centre but when I googled it I became very interested indeed!
Well, yesterday, with a bit of trepidation, I decided to go. I got there easily enough by using the U-bahn. I naively assumed they'd accept credit cards so when I first entered and spoke to the lady at reception she said we don't accept credit cards only cash. I was impressed with the size and decor of the place and could see a lot of girls in various states of undress behind her and some guys with blue towels wrapped around.
Well, annoyed, I went back into town to withdraw some money, 200 euros, and come again. This time I entered the same time as a couple of other fellows. It was around 6.30 pm. The receptionist explained the system to me and I paid 75 euros and went and got changed and showered. Immediately I was impressed both by the size and the cleanliness and decor of the place. It looked really inviting! I knew I'd made the correct decision. Well, still quite nervous and not exactly sure of the etiquette I put on a robe and decided to wander for a bit.
I couldn't keep my eyes off all the naked women walking around or sat on the couches or at the bar. I was like a kid in a candy bar! Certainly my visual senses were being stimulated! I smiled and said hi to some of the more beautiful girls who walked by.
I then saw this really gorgeous dark haired girl, who looked Eastern European, and I said Hi and began to speak to her. She bade me sit down next to her and began to caress me and I got hard. I didn't want to have sex with anyone without checking out more of the place so I told her it was my first time here and that I just wanted to have a look around before I decided. She was nice and said okay. I then saw a very pretty Middle Eastern looking girl and went up to her to talk too. She started speaking in German and I said, 'Ich sprache kleine Deutsch" and asked if she could speak English! (Sad, I know but there you go!) Well she said she was from Iran and bingo! I speak Farsi so I started speaking to her and she began carressing my leg but I said I was looking around and would definitely see her later. I made a mental note to definitely have sex with her. Her name, she said, was Barbara.
Well, I'd had my wander and so I decided to have a bit of the buffet--very good I must say! I was impressed. So I had a bit of pasta and then saw the most drop-dead gorgeous girl I'd yet seen. Tall, athletic, blonde with perfectly chiselled features and a great body, sitting on the table opposite all alone. I got a hard-on just seeing her and decided she was the one I'd start with. Well she was really beautiful and spoke excellent English too. Her name is Saskia and she said she was from Cologne and a German. We began to kiss and talk intermittently until a room became free. She wouldn't let me French kiss her though but she was so pretty I didn't mind. A room became available soon and we went to it. She said she loved blowjobs and she bent down and took me in her mouth-BBBJ. She really was good and I was afraid I'd come just from the BBBJ but I controlled myself. We then did some 69 and I also licked her arsehole which was really clean. She sucked on my balls whilst we also had intermittent conversation. Eventually she squatted over me and rode me for a while as I sucked her gorgeous breasts. Then she asked me to fuck her doggy style and I happily obliged! It was in that position that I came. We then cuddled and kissed on the bed for a while afterward until she said the 30 mins were up. I paid her 50 euros and she kissed me again.
I then showered again and spotted another blonde girl wearing hot-pants. She saw me looking at her and came over to me. She began to talk and convinced me to part with 100 euros for CIM. She was quite attractive but, I now feel, a bit aggressive. Another German called Nadine. Well she blew me and rode me cowgirl style become sucking me off--it took ages--until I came in her mouth.
She wouldn't let me kiss her at all though and I was a bit disappointed with her. Worse I could have spent the extra 50 euro on that Persian girl.
Afterwards I sat around for a bit looking but didn't have enough money left for a session unless I went out again to the cashpoint and I couldn't be bothered. A couple of good looking brunettes offered to double-team me but I said next time and they rudely walked away!
Well I spotted the Farsi girl again but was too embarassed to go to her without the necessary cash. So I showered and left feeling good but a bit rushed!
I will definitely come to this place a lot--I just know it!
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Nick The G
03-25-07, 22:35
Do the management know about this, or are they the managementFirstly: members of club management usually don't run around in the club wearing towels! :-)
Secondly: if members of club management should feel a need to be engaged in this type of value-added-business, you can be sure that they have preselected the girls by knowing them over time and arranged a "contract" with these girls or taken over "responsibility" for these girls from the first pimps. And management will select only the best and hardest working girls for their purposes.
No need to be present there physically all the time.
btw: what do you think all those cameras are good for too?
[QUOTE=Toscana]
But they are there. Typically, as I observed, they are young good-looking guys, not unfriendly to the girls. They are orchestrating them, encouraging them to approach new customers. I bet they are the ones who bring them over to Germany, with (realistic) promises of much higher earnings than they can have in rural Transylvania or wherever. Do you really think these 18-20 girls have the knowledge, language and experience to get themselves over to Frankfurt to work in an FKK, paperwork, accommodation, transport etc.? They are looked after, presumably for a cut.
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This explains alot. A few girls have said that there are some guys who are there all the time. It is clear they are just looking after their investment and are not there to enjoy the club.
i've been gone a week and come back to find some very negative talk about palace. i do also recall some of those bald headed guys that seemed to hang out and keep an eye on the girls.. i remember one or two going up to the guys between sessions and paying extra attention to them, treating them like real friends. i felt like something was up, almost as if their boyfriends were there. i remember it making me feel a little uncomfortable like something was up with it. but still, i had very good times at palace. i like hanging out there better than world or oase although my only trip to oase was on a sunday and i'm sure i just caught it on a very off night. but to make a trip out to world is a hassle especially if you don't have a car. if you don't have a car and only rent one to go to world it's an investment, but perhaps money is no object for some. my point is that palace has a lot going for it if you can manage yourself there. the only bad session i've had there was with the good looking "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)" who i had a really great session with earlier that night. she stopped about 20 minutes into the session and said she was just exhausted. knowing how busy she had been all night i wasn't surprised. i probably shouldn't have been sympathetic with her or even not paid her. but bad sessions happen and our goal is to minimize them. admittedly, it's difficult in palace to have a gfe but i thought that was also somewhat true of world. generally, once you session with a girl, she's done with you. i accept that. fkks are not brazil, but brazil in some ways are not fkks either.
so how bad is palace all of a sudden? i'm going back in a few weeks and planned on spending a couple nights at palace. if palace is not the place in frankfurt, what is?
another question, at what point can you not pay or threaten not to pay if you are in a room with a girl and she under performs or non performs?
Hessen Bub
03-26-07, 08:46
Firstly: members of club management usually don't run around in the club wearing towels! :-)
Well, they do actually: Mauro at Oase is always sitting around in the club wearing nothing than a towel, looking like a regular guest.
Pimps in FKK clubs: You find them in all the clubs, they don't look like pimps, they maybe don't behave like pimps, but they are there, believe me.
I don't know if Palace is really that bad compared to Oase or World. You'll have to find out on your own, Sybarite2006 as a complete FKK-newbie did have a good time.
Hessen Bub
i've been gone a week and come back to find some very negative talk about palace. i do also recall some of those bald headed guys that seemed to hang out and keep an eye on the girls.. i remember one or two going up to the guys between sessions and paying extra attention to them, treating them like real friends. i felt like something was up, almost as if their boyfriends were there. i remember it making me feel a little uncomfortable like something was up with it. but still, i had very good times at palace. i like hanging out there better than world or oase although my only trip to oase was on a sunday and i'm sure i just caught it on a very off night. but to make a trip out to world is a hassle especially if you don't have a car. if you don't have a car and only rent one to go to world it's an investment, but perhaps money is no object for some. my point is that palace has a lot going for it if you can manage yourself there. the only bad session i've had there was with the good looking "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)" who i had a really great session with earlier that night. she stopped about 20 minutes into the session and said she was just exhausted. knowing how busy she had been all night i wasn't surprised. i probably shouldn't have been sympathetic with her or even not paid her. but bad sessions happen and our goal is to minimize them. admittedly, it's difficult in palace to have a gfe but i thought that was also somewhat true of world. generally, once you session with a girl, she's done with you. i accept that. fkks are not brazil, but brazil in some ways are not fkks either.
so how bad is palace all of a sudden? i'm going back in a few weeks and planned on spending a couple nights at palace. if palace is not the place in frankfurt, what is?
another question, at what point can you not pay or threaten not to pay if you are in a room with a girl and she under performs or non performs?
posts about this club for the past year have had a particular emphasis on avoiding certain women for certain undesirable activities such as upselling, overbilling and short timing... hence the blacklist.
i've not had time to update the list, unfortunately.
Nick The G
03-26-07, 11:55
Well, they do actually: Mauro at Oase is always sitting around in the club wearing nothing than a towel, looking like a regular guest.
Since Mauro is the only exception I know of too, I didn`t want to lay stress on it and wrote "usually". :-)
Posts about this club for the past year have had a particular emphasis on avoiding certain women for certain undesirable activities such as upselling, overbilling and short timing... hence the blacklist.
I've not had time to update the list, unfortunately.
What can you do if a girl short times you?
What can you do if a girl short times you?
That is one very nice thing about a Rio Termas, the girls NEVER short time you. Infact they get pissed if you try and leave early. Your time is your time. I have had multiple pops in my 40 minute sessions with Rio girls at a Termas
Well, they do actually: Mauro at Oase is always sitting around in the club wearing nothing than a towel, looking like a regular guest.
Have not seen Mauro in quite some time. I was actually starting to wonder if her still owned the place. Back in the day, I use to see him every time I waled through the door of Oase. It has probably been a good half year or more since I have seen him.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I have had and know many people that have had bad sessions in Rio termas or less than passionate sessions. Surprisingly, some of the girls in Rio are inexperienced compared to what I've had in the FKKs. It's astonishing and beautiful how good some of the FKK girls can be. And girls don't routinely get pissed if you try to leave early in Rio, but they might play it up a little. You think it insults them if a gringo gets a nut and wants to return to the bar? They do stay the entire 40 minutes though and wait on the phone to ring before they get ready to go which is not the case usually at FKKs- they tend to dart when they've met a level of service they can bill for. What you do usually get at the termas is a little more time and full service without the upcharge. But you only get Brazilian girls(NTTAWWT). At FKKs you get all kinds of beautiful girls(Thai, Chinese, Korean, you name it). I'm glad to be leaving for the FKKs again in a few weeks but can't wait to get back to Rio too.
I don't have a preference for either(FKK or Rio girls) at this point, I just want good service wherever I go. What I'm trying to figure out is what to do to get the girls in Germany to perform consistently. There are quite a few girls in Palace that have an attitude but look damn good. I can't figure out how to crack the shell and until I do won't venture into a room with them. If there was just some kind of fall back we have a girl under performs, does not do what she agrees to, or leaves early. I've seen a couple stunners go into a room and back out in 15 minutes but the guy isn't complaining- perhaps there are a lot of guys that just want to walk out of the room and not look like they were a bad lay or something, who knows.
That is one very nice thing about a Rio Termas, the girls NEVER short time you. Infact they get pissed if you try and leave early. Your time is your time. I have had multiple pops in my 40 minute sessions with Rio girls at a Termas
Sebastiane
03-26-07, 20:50
I hope I didn't sound too critical--I never even knew such places existed before where a man can live out his fantasies surrounded by loads of naked, beautiful, women. If you love women then you can't complain. OK, we pay good money to go there and should therefore expect good service all the time but these girls are human too and sometimes shagging average or worse looking guys must take its toll.
There is really nothing you can do with a girl that underperforms. You can complain to the management, but they usually don't do much. You can certainly make it known here. Unless a girl promises specifics, you can't make her perform. She is a cheat, but not a slave to do with as you please.
Still, there are some tactics. You can tell people who are going to go with her how bad she is. Maybe the loss of business will send her the message. Or maybe her pimp will beat you up.
One of the best tactics for girls who leave early is to say you will rest here until the time is up. She can leave early, but you will pay when your time is done. This can be really stunning since they don't have a good option. But you may be blacklisted by the girls as the rumor spreads!
.. strategy is for her to prolong the session (run up the clock in other words) and then bill you for a longer session.
This is what happened to me with Ola at Goldentime (see my post under that thread).
She employed time wasting tactics and before I knew it, I found myself being overbilled.
I would have gladly paid if I had been enjoying myself but she was neither entertaining nor sexy.
Most of us are attuned to the short timers. Not many of us are attuned to those girls who want to run up the clock.
Got corralled into a session by a girl that looked like one of the girls I wanted as a kid in high school. Not beautiful but sexy sex in a cutie way – curly blond hair, about 5ft 2 inches, average face with no make-up, nice body, small boobs, friendly, stockings and high heels. Wanted to have some fun with her because she reminded me of high school.
We kissed and off to a room. She claimed she was Italian. Kissed some more, blown and asked if I wanted a massage.
The radar was engaged and I asked how much? She said 150 euro.. I said no. I told her that I hate being up sold and the session was finished. She sat on my towel and told me the we kissed and a that 25 euro was in order. I said 25 was ok but she would not get off my towel and let me leave the room. We settled to 50 euro to have the session come to an end.
Sadly one of the most boring sessions ever.
A week later I was waiting for a room with one of the Bulgarian brigade. She confirmed that she is Italian and should be avoided
Avoid her.
the correlation is usually with the aggresiveness of the girl in her sales tactics and performance.
can someone tell me if there's a messe going on the next couple of days. i am wondering if it's a bad time to come to frankfurt very last minute...
the correlation is usually with the aggresiveness of the girl in her sales tactics and performance.
can someone tell me if there's a messe going on the next couple of days. i am wondering if it's a bad time to come to frankfurt very last minute...
Here is the link to the schedule. You'll want to bookmark this:
http://www.messefrankfurt.com/corporate/en/messen_messeninfrankfurt.html
Here is what's going on 29th-31st:
Mar 28, 2007-
Mar 31, 2007
Germany Musikmesse 2007
International trade fair for musical instruments, music software and computer hardware, sheet music and accessories Detail
Mar 28, 2007-
Mar 31, 2007
Germany Prolight + Sound 2007
You can click for more details. It looks like you could call and get information about the messe, even how large it is perhaps.
Cicciolino
03-27-07, 20:50
@Akibono:
There are two things you can do for sure:
- never pay in advance
- do not pay at all if the service has been
(very) bad, to short or not performed as agreed.
Trust me, neither the management or the pimps want
to have a scandal in Frankfurt with Police etc. In case
of problems, such clubs are closed very fast....
Don't you think your post would be ALOT more useful if you could supply a name for this Italian girl? Then we might know who actually to avoid...right?
Thanks
Got corralled into a session by a girl that looked like one of the girls I wanted as a kid in high school. Not beautiful but sexy sex in a cutie way – curly blond hair, about 5ft 2 inches, average face with no make-up, nice body, small boobs, friendly, stockings and high heels. Wanted to have some fun with her because she reminded me of high school.
We kissed and off to a room. She claimed she was Italian. Kissed some more, blown and asked if I wanted a massage.
The radar was engaged and I asked how much? She said 150 euro.. I said no. I told her that I hate being up sold and the session was finished. She sat on my towel and told me the we kissed and a that 25 euro was in order. I said 25 was ok but she would not get off my towel and let me leave the room. We settled to 50 euro to have the session come to an end.
Sadly one of the most boring sessions ever.
A week later I was waiting for a room with one of the Bulgarian brigade. She confirmed that she is Italian and should be avoided
Avoid her.
...She sat on my towel and told me the we kissed and a that 25 euro was in order. I said 25 was ok but she would not get off my towel and let me leave the room. We settled to 50 euro to have the session come to an end...
I don't get it. She said that 25 euros was in order and you settled for 50. Is there something missing here?
Chivaz
I don't get it. She said that 25 euros was in order and you settled for 50. Is there something missing here?
ChivazChivas,
Sorry for the confusion. She wanted me to pay her 25 Euros as we kissed but insisted(by sitting on my towel and not allowoming me to leave until I came) that we finish the 30 minutes and pay 50 euros.
@Akibono:
There are two things you can do for sure:
- never pay in advance
- do not pay at all if the service has been
(very) bad, to short or not performed as agreed.
Trust me, neither the management or the pimps want
to have a scandal in Frankfurt with Police etc. In case
of problems, such clubs are closed very fast....
The police don't show up this this type of problem. Unless, you are a regular, management usually sides with the girl. They figure you are expendable. Generally, its a game of chicken. You can't leave until you resolve the issue. The girl can stay till closing time, but do you really want to wait that long?
The police don't show up this this type of problem. Unless, you are a regular, management usually sides with the girl. They figure you are expendable. Generally, its a game of chicken. You can't leave until you resolve the issue. The girl can stay till closing time, but do you really want to wait that long?
Well, true. But most of us really don't WANT to get the police involved, either. Many of us are in positions where it does not help if it gets known that we frequent FKKs ... if you know what I mean! The girls know this, too, and that is the main reason why the rip-off artists get so bold. They simply figure that you have more to lose then they do, if this gets to be a big to-do.
Stopped as usual at Palace during the day on my layover. I find that Palace is like 2 separate clubs. The day crew are mellow and a lot of fun to hang with. I have never had a problem or experienced pressure during the day but at night when the Romanians show up it is a different place.
My problem is that with only one or two exceptions. It is EXACTLY the same girls during the day – month after month. I think I am getting bored with the place.
Anastasia – Russia, curly black hair and slightly baggy C cups. She has lost about 10 pounds which is nice and her sessions are as good as always. I have written about her a couple times. I am always surprised that she isn’t “discovered”. Not the prettiest girl in the world but damn ….. I NEVER miss a session with her. Totally GFE and horny.
Vicky- My other Russian Favorite from the daytime crew. She is VERY beautiful with blond hair, C cups and like Anastasia is all GFE. From DFK, DATY, BBBJ and FS she gets a 10.
Corina - Romania -
I decided to try something new. Carina was friendly and maybe is different than the rest of the Romanians. OOOPS – She gave a beautiful BBBJ-9 was like a fish during DATY-3 and the worst was that she did everything possible to not let me in deep during FS. She said I was too big. Thanks for the compliment but even I have to admit it was BS. She only gets a 3 for FS. DO NOT GO WITH HER.
Valentina Italy – I went with her ages ago and I couldn’t remember whether it was good or not. She comes across as very sensual and friendly. Well after some BBBJ 6 in the kino we went off to the room. I was pretty tired after a long flight and day so it was taking quite a long time to come. Some girls know just how to move --- Valentina did not. I will not go with her again.
I think this is the girl that gave “Visual” a bad experience a couple posts back.
I think I am getting jaded and bored with Palace. I need to figure out something new to do during my layover at FRA. Any suggestions?
See my report in Oase a week later
Anastasia – Russia, curly black hair and slightly baggy C cups. She has lost about 10 pounds which is nice and her sessions are as good as always. I have written about her a couple times. I am always surprised that she isn’t “discovered”. Not the prettiest girl in the world but damn ….. I NEVER miss a session with her. Totally GFE and horny.
Deepvoid, what u said about day and night there is so true.
Its nearly 2 years since I was with Anastasia. She really is GFE, and I had some amazing sessions with her. I wonder how many cocks she has had since I was last with her?? Really pleasant laid back girl.
She used to love the finger deep in both "the front and back bottoms" :D
I too echo your words about this fantastic Russian Latvian girl. In early March she was at Palace every Mon-Fri working the Dayshift. If you arrive after 18.30 it is quite possible you will miss her...
Btw: I can see why Wan King would get a nice vibe from her. She is a real rimmer, eh?
Ortos
Ekliges Lauern
04-01-07, 12:38
Back at Palace on Saturday 3/31/2007. Weird vibe.
I get there about 6PM, shower and park myself on one of the sofas for observation. I notice of my regulars, only Linda (that woman is a machine, does she ever take the day off) is in attendance. As I am sitting on the sofa, Kim, the short Domincan chica of a certain age that I sessioned with once last year, starts giving be the hard sell. Now, I sessioned with Kim once last year because I observed that less beautiful women with plenty of customers generally give good service. And Kim's sevice was pretty good. Just not good enough for me to want to repeat. Anyway, I retreat to the enclosed area to the side of the eating area. She chases me there. I ditch her again. Finally, I hide out in the Kino. I end up doing the Kino BJ thing with Czeck Linda. Normally I like to save Linda for the end of the evening where the ending reguires a more skillful lady but at this point I just wanted to get a session in with any hassles. As always with Linda, a very good session. The porno movie was a sort of "Girls Gone Wild" bar scene with about a hundred ladies and a handful of male strippers getting in on with various ordinary girls. Quite hot to get a BJ to. Anyway, every once in a while, Linda starts laughing. She says the movie is in Czeck and one of the girls sucking one of the guys said something funny. No problem. Linda tends to be such a machine that its nice to know there is person under the act.
So now I relax some more. Still having a hard time locking onto targets. Lots of approachs by the Romanian brigade. Sorry, I have my racial profiling thing going on. Too many mediocre sessions with Romanian girls. I'm just not seeing any girls returning from the room with happy guys. After my hour or so of recharge time, I am approached by a turkish girl. She is wearing a red belt and a red half jacket. She has a couple of blond streaks in her dark hair and has a tattoo above her left tit. I have had good luck with turkish girls in the past so off to the Kino we go. I explain how I like it, (slow at first with a build up). She follows instructions for maybe two minutes and the proceeds to give me a hand job and nothing else. I decide to take her to the room and fuck her (she's not getting my 50E for a hand job). While waiting for the room she asks if I want to FT. I explain if she does a good job I will give her the FT bonus. She offers me other service not normally on the menu. She tells me it is 200E all togther. I tell her that it is 100E in I FT. Total upseller and annoying about it. We get in the room. About 30 seconds after I enter her she starts shouting "Cum in my mouth" every few seconds. Really annoying. I have at her missionary and from behind. After about 15 minutes of this, she tells me my time is up and I will have to pay more to continue. Anyway, I find her so annoying that I want to cut my losses. I ask her her name. I think she is wise to me and tells me it is Julia but some times she goes by Melissa. I think she knew she was going to get reviewed so she gave me another name. By previous descriptions, I think this was Selda. I break off the session. As we are walking to the locker, she is trying to grab my arm and give off a good vibe in public. No dice, I'm not playing along. I give her 50E. An argument ensues as she says I owe he 100E as I promised to FT. I stand firm and she backs off. Total laufhaus attitude. Avoid.
At this point I just want to was off the bad vibes, have a decent session and go home. I hang out in the Kino for a while, checking out various prospects. I try to get the attention of the chica Maria, but no luck. I'm getting desparate. I'm thinking of asking Linda to recommend a friend. There is a Ukrainian girl with very big droopy tits that I have had my eye on for a while. Tonight, she is wearing a bra and a red see through number. She usually trolls the Kino with her friend in tow. Anyway, I motion her over and get her to detach from her friend. I explain I want to start out with a Kino BJ and depending on how things progress either finish in the Kino or head off to the room. Her response "No!". She storms off and as she is leaving the Kino, she says to Linda who is entering the Kino "Always in the Kino, why?" and leaves. I got a good laugh as Linda has never had a problem with that. Anyway, after a while, the older Thai lady comes through trolling the Kino. I should probably explain something. My eyesight is not good close up. I can see fine at a distance, but inside of about 3 or 4 feet, it’s all a blur. This should explain to some why I don’t mind going with some of the older or plainer ladies. Basically, when the action starts, I really can’t tell the difference and I am more focused on service than looks. Anyway, the older Thai lady explains her name is Lucky. She proceeds to give me a pleasant Kino BJ, taking instruction well. She doesn’t want to FT and doesn’t really have the pacing for the build up so I take her to the room and fuck her. Pleasant fuck. No attitude. I fuck her from behind for a while and cum. We chat about some of the other Thai ladies at Palace for a few minutes and leave. Overall, pleasant but not good enough to repeat.
I’m going to try Palace again tonight and hope that the Sunday night vibe is better, but if I have another night like last night, I’m moving my home base to Oase.
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Member #1071
04-01-07, 23:13
visited palace on tuesday night. took a taxi, around 20euros from central station.
75euros fee at the entrance (ouch), the price includes soft drinks and an open buffet, not too fancy but if you are hungry you might find the variety of food satisfactory.
you are given a towel and a key to a locker where you can keep your clothes and valuables.
around 50 girls available, most are above 6-7, although some 8-9 stunners are there.
headed to the kino room, about five men having sex on the seats and couches.
was approached by a romanian named daisy an 8 figure and body. she quoted 50 euros for fs.
started a bbbj in the lounge, then we moved to a nearby room. no interaction, except a bbbj very intense it took her five minutes to finish me in her mouth. we are done she said!!!, fine no problem with me as i was expecting a quicky.
i was surprised when she asked me for 100 euros because i came in her mouth...i wouldn't want to argue in such a situation. i paid her what she asked for and spent about one hour relaxing in the main hall, admiring the totally nude girls roaming around.
i was tired from my trip to frankfurt and decided to go back to my hotel and rest.
next day went there again paid my entrance fees, changed my clothes and put on the towel given to me.
the place was crouded since frankfurt was hosting some kind of exhibition. more girls and bigger variety.
chose [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), a 9/10 romanian slim girl. started bbbj on the couche waiting for a room to be free. few minutes later we headed to the room.
she started some french kissing with tongue but no deep action, that was fine. she then resumed her bbbj, few minutes later she asked me if wanted a 69 position, for which i answered yes.
her pussy totally shaven with a nice strawbery smell. she resumed an intense bbbj, but since i was in the mood for some f--- i asked her to get a condom. several positions then ended up missionary. overall satisfactory session.
30 minutes later i felt the urge for another session. made the mistake of taking daisy again. same scenario as the day before. big mistake.
i rested near the big jaccuzzi with a friend i met there, when i saw one girl with the sexiet eyes i have ever seen. on the chubby side, but definetly not overweight.
approached her, forgot her name, but she was half greek half romanian, dark hair with a big pair of breasts.
she promised me a mind blowing session for 50euros with no extra money to pay.
indeed she was so good, that she made me feel like a king.
deep french kissing, bbbj, daty, 4-5 positions no mention about time.
spent about 45 minutes with her and at the end paid her 50+10 euros.
after around 90min, i was horny again and wanted to go with the same girl again.
this time she was even more active towards the savage part of the spectrum, biting me every were and asking me to do the same for her.
we spent around one hour in a mind blowing session. paid her 50 euros and promised her i would come back in few weeks.
i found the palace a better place than oase, larger variety of girls and a more relaxing atmomsphere.
i would go there again next time i visit frankfurt.
Is it extra for cum over her body? (not face)
Frank Furious
04-02-07, 03:41
I have to say that the pornography screened at Palace this afternoon was utter garbage.
I mean there so many great DVDs and so much net based material out there and they have to this vomit. I felt like complaining to the manager.
One could argue that you make your own porn in this place and so you shouldn't care about it. I disagree.
Kid Brooklyn
04-02-07, 04:12
Went with a buddy, my first time, his second.
I read the reports and thought to myself. Blah, blah, blah. It's probably exaggerated and not that great. Boy, was I wrong!
When we walked in, you could just smell the sex in the air.
The place is layed-out nicely. It's like a herum, filled with naked women walking around. Behind every corner is another naked woman. You undress, put on a towel, and start walking around till you find a spot to hang out in. The place is cool with a couple of wingman. I could not do it solo, as I saw very little interaction betewen the guys, unless they were together. Not much comraderie as in other places, such as Latin America.
The entry (E75) is high. We went 11pm Sunday night after getting in from the airport and checking into our hotel, so the food was gone. I would never touch what was left. So I had about 5 soft drinks for my E75. Good deal. LOL
I made a newbie mistake, going with the first girl I saw. Spanish, very average looking with nice, big boobs. I was walking back from the shower when she came up and stuck her tongue down my throat. All I could think of was all the guys she blew before me. I wanted to vomit. She was a sex freak (8. 5-9), but not much better than a 5-6 in looks. Wasted session since afterwards I saw so many others that I would've picked before her. Saw many 8-9's and even a couple of 10's in my book, a tall, Asian-looking chick and a gorgeous short blonde with small naturals.
I didn't have many hot chicks approaching me, mostly the desperate, less attractive ones. I had to be more active to hook up. After the first Spaniard chick, I waited for a couple others but they were either busy or nowhere to be found. I hooked up with a big-boobed Czech blonde later in the evening and she was fun. I didn't get names, sorry.
Total spent: entry E75, sessions E50x2 = E175 ($235) for 2 quick sessions. But if I'm in the area, I'd do it again sometime.
I can't compare it to other FKK's or even another night, but I recommend the Palace whole-heartedly. It's not cheap, but it's more than just sessions, it's the whole atmosphere that you're getting into.
We stayed at the Ramada in Frankfurt, not far from the train station. Stayed on the 6th floor but the elevator only goes up to 5. Hmm. Nothing like dragging the suitcase up the stairs. Overall, it was ok, about E75 per night.
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Visited Palace on Tuesday night. Took a Taxi, around 20Euros from central station...
...30 minutes later I felt the urge for another session. Made the mistake of taking Daisy again. Same scenario as the day before. Big mistake.
I rested near the big Jaccuzzi with a friend I met there, when I saw one girl with the sexiet eyes I have ever seen. On the chubby side, but definetly not overweight.
Approached her, forgot her name, but she was half greek half romanian, dark hair with a big pair of breasts.
She promised me a mind blowing session for 50Euros with no extra money to pay.
Indeed she was so good, that she made me feel like a king.
Deep french kissing, BBBJ, Daty, 4-5 positions no mention about time.
Spent about 45 minutes with her and at the end paid her 50+10 Euros.
After around 90min, I was horny again and wanted to go with the same girl again.
This time she was even more active towards the savage part of the spectrum, biting me every were and asking me to do the same for her.
We spent around one hour in a mind blowing session. Paid her 50 Euros and promised her I would come back in few weeks.
I found the Palace a better place than Oase, larger variety of girls and a more relaxing atmomsphere.
I would go there again next time I visit Frankfurt.
Nice report!
About the taxi from Hbf: I think 20E is too much...did he rip you off?
The half Greek/half Romanian girl: You mean you went with her twice and liked her so much you could not remember her name??? It sounds like Christina, a solid choice and good performer...
Ortos
What does "FT" stand for? Did I also notice "FS" in some posts?
Thanks.
AO = Alles Ohne (BBFS)
AV = AnalVerkehr (anal)
FM = Franzosisch Mit (Gummi) (BJ)
FO = Französisch Ohne (Gummi) (BBBJ)
FT = Französisch Total (CIM)
GV = GeschlechtsVerkehr (FS)
KB = KörperBesamung (COB)
Lecken (DATY)
ZK = ZungenKüsse (DFK)
Member #1071
04-02-07, 19:24
Nice report!
About the taxi from Hbf: I think 20E is too much...did he rip you off?
The half Greek/half Romanian girl: You mean you went with her twice and liked her so much you could not remember her name??? It sounds like Christina, a solid choice and good performer...
Ortos
Christina is the name, thank you Ortos for refreshing my memory.
I was actually at the intercontinental and the charges were around 20 Euros each time i took a taxi to the palace....
Landed in Frankfurt around 13:00 and was at the hotel by 14:00. My hotel was right across the street from the main central train station. The location was perfect for me because I used public transportation everywhere I went.
At the train station, I bought a two day metro pass for e$12.00. I now had to decide which fkk club to visit first. I would be here for 4 day to party and the 5th for travel. I thought I would hit world first since it was the furthest club. Since it was raining off and on, I changed my mind and went to Palace. Before I go on, I just want to comment that the metros and trains in both Spain and Germany were pretty reliable and on time.
From my hotel I walked across the street and caught the u4 metro to the bockenheimer warts, 2 stops from the train station. Got off and switched over to either the u6 or u7 metro, whichever came first. 3 stops later, I got off at Industriehof/neve burse and walked the block and a half to the club. The directions from previous posters were right on the money.
Entrance is now e$75.00. I'am used to the termas in Brazil, so the fkk clubs are pretty similar. Today was the one day where the girls are not completely naked. That was okay because there were some stunners here.
I walked around the club to get acclimated and finally took a seat at the bar upstairs. I wanted a drink and behind the counter is one of best looking girls in the club ( imo ). I'am thinking great, the one girl I really like and she is tending bar. Kind of like the strip clubs in the states. Sometimes for extra money, a stripper will tend bar and only the bar for that one extra day.
Anyways, I asked for a coke which she promptly gave to me, then I asked her for her name and she said to wait a minute and I will come around. Now I'am thinking. maybe she is working today. She sits besides me and I notice behind the bar the real bartender is there. I guess this girl was getting a drink for herself when I asked her for the coke.
She tells me her name is Nikki and she is from Frankfurt. She is about 5'9", blond hair, thin, with a very pretty face. She asked if I wanted to sit on one of the other seats so we could talk. No problem. We conversed for about 10 minutes and then she asked if I wanted to go to the room with her. She read my mind but I was kind of expecting her to give me the bbbj that I read about to seal the deal.
We get to the room and her performance was as good as she looked. Dfk, daty, bbbj nice and sloppy and very passionate. I highly recommend.
After the deed, I take my shower and rested up by going into the jacuzzi and relaxing. I get offers by some girls that just didn't do it for me so I had to pass. Then a girl who was short but very cute comes up to me. I can't remember her name but she was from the czech rep..
We go to the kino and start up. She had given me a good bbbj but when I tried to kiss her, she wouldn't let me. I tried to finger her, again no. Daty, out of the question. Did I get off, yes but with too many restrictions. I do not recommend. I still had fun, but not the total fun I was looking for.
Could I go for the hat trick? I'am 51 years old and was pondering that question. By this time dinner was ready so I decided to eat something to see if I could get some energy back.
After dinner, I see a tall blond with big titties so I approach her. Her name is Linda and I can't remember where she was from. Very pretty and in the room, a tigress. I highly recommend. After completing the hat trick, I decided to go back to the hotel and rest up for tomorrows fkk adventure.
Before leaving, I saw Nikki and asked her if she would be here this coming Saturday. Unfortunately she said no, she had things to do. The reason I asked was, since I had four days I could hit palace, oasis, world, and whichever one I thought had the best girls, I would repeat.
Tomorrow, a trip to world.
HaywoodJablomey
04-03-07, 23:23
Landed FRA, picked up car, in my hotel room within an hour. On-board navigation on those C220s over there are very good; Brit chick voice, hint of Cornish. Had reserved a hotel on the river near the train station; ate the bowl of fruit in the room and showered. I had the address to the Palace from my ISG briefing, and the car had me there in about 9 minutes, barely enough time to finish my attitude adjustment. (Did someone say they*walked*?)
Basically, everything followed the ISG reports/FAQs to the letter. Early in the day, had the place damn near to myself.
Spent an hour with a nice Russian, 24ish, 5-10, lean with big hips, worked me as hard as I worked her, did a nice job with the facial at the end. Seriously, she gave me a true PSE, guys spend all their money on honeys like her.
I left, it was all so good it was surreal. Very very nice environment, elegant even, I really enjoyed it. (FWIW, I've been to Zona Norte many times, and really love that kind of experience, so I wasn't sure how I would react to the sophisticated Euro thing, but it was all good baby.) Drove around Frankfurt, ate/tuneup, and went back. Asked for a receipt before I left, came back after being gone for many hours, no hassle, just like the reports said.
Supercute brazilian, barely legal look, crawled into my lap and had me at Ola. Grabbed a room, had another great PSE.
Palace FKK is exactly as-advertised.
Is every Monday now a not-fully-nude day for the girls in Palace!
I finally made my first visit on the 24th of last month. The information given on these boards made finding the place absurdly easy and made it equally easy to not feel "new. " I also found everyone's advice helpful and just relaxed and enjoyed myself. I didn't feel a tremendous amount of pressure sales techniques. In fact it took about 45 minutes before women started soliciting me, which gave me a chance to walk around and acquaint myself with the floorplan and then plant myself in the kino. As soon as I'd had my first session it seemed like the propositions were pretty freuent. I met quite a few ladies whose names sounded familiar from past reports.
There were a few women who had a hard time accepting "no thank you" but for the most part the ladies were much nicer than I had come to expect. The main exceptions were towards the end of the evening when I had to start telling everyone I didn't have any more monry. I was still hanging out in the kino and I got the vibe I was taking up space and was a little less welcome at that point. It *was* a bit demented to have to turn down some of those women, so next time I'll have to bring more cash and hope I can find the stamina for several more sessions than I did this trip.
I *think* my first session was with Rebecca from Germany, but I don't remember for sure. It was very pleasant, but very quick (my fault). We started off in a 69 and I came so quickly that I didn't even realize I had come until she showed me the condom was full. So that was odd. But I kind of came in with the idea that the first session would be a quickie so I still found it satisfactory.
The second session was in the kino with Vanessa from Russia. Very sexy, and thankfully I was able to sustain myself for longer. She started with BBBJ until I indicated I was ready to get inside her and she be-condomed and mounted me and rode me until I came. She was probably the best session of the night.
The third and last was with Milia (? ) from Russia, also in the Kino. I enjoyed DATY and we tried several positions including doggie. I didn't come on this third session, but it was still sexier than hell.
All in all, a pleasant time and I will probably do it again. ; ) Or I may very well opt for trying Oase next time.
Thank you all for contributing to the great resource this board is.
-phantxtc
Is every Monday now a not-fully-nude day for the girls in Palace!
Wednesday is the "Dessous" day. Lingerie, bikinis etc, not nude.
According to the website Monday is "Strapsparty" day. Suspenders/garters, to that extent presumably not nude. Never seen this.
Alpenpluck
04-05-07, 16:10
Hello to all,
I tried to post this earlier from my PDA phone, but as it has not yet appeared I am trying again as the previous post probably disappeared into wherever lost internet content goes! Firstly I should apologize that my first post is a question rather than a report, but I will write a summary of my first trip to the palace shortly.
I had a fantastic time with a Polish girl, and would dearly love to recover her name, which I unforgivably have forgotten. She is fairly tall with shoulder length, fairly straight blond hair, just loose around her face and not tied up. Body wise she is pretty slim with a lovely flat belly and nicely toned arms and legs. A cute face, skin more pale than tanned with some freckles and no tattoos or obvious piercings that I could see! Rather smallish and not very perky breasts (all natural that's for sure). She speaks german and okay english and is pretty approachable and friendly. She was occasionally with her friend Isabelle, another polish blonde with longer tied back hair and a rounder body and breasts. She was a non-smoker (rare in an fkk)! and was at Palace on Monday (2nd) and Tuesday (3rd) nights.
Phew, quite a description! If anyone knows who I might be talking about and can remember her name I would be eternally grateful! On a more general note, as a relative newbie and having poor german (French, Spanish and English are my modes of communication), I have to say I find the Palace to be a paradise on earth. Take a smile and a playful attitude, respect the girl’s feelings and bodies, and don’t take it all so seriously and it can truly be the most fun place around. Out of two visits and six girls, I am hopelessly in love with two of them, two sessions were very good and two I would classify as churn and burn. However, even one of the churn and burn girls I managed to reduce to fits of laughter by asking her where the fire was and jumping off the bed in fake panic, and it all ended in very good terms. Anyway – a more detailed report on the above later.
Thanks to all previous posters for all the great info.
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I will have about 4 hours connection.
Will I be able to make a quick visit to the Palace (or any other FKK)?
Thanks,
Wiseguy
Is it extra for cum over her body? (not face)Yes, The rule of thumb is if you don't cum inside the condom and get sperm on her (other than on her hand) it is 50 euro extra.
JL
I will have about 4 hours connection.
Will I be able to make a quick visit to the Palace (or any other FKK)?
Thanks,
Wiseguy
... are you talking about: a plane connection at FRA or a train connection at the Hbf?
If the first, are you making an international connection?
What time of the day or night?
You might have a chance to do a quickie and make it back to the train station if you take a cab both ways.
An airport connection would be a little trickier.
I live here and travel a lot from here. As a rule, I give myself at least 1.5 hours to make a flight due to all the BS involved in getting to the plane these days. Also, Frankfurt is a BIG airport.
That gives you 2.5 hours for an FKK visit including travel. Transit time by taxi is about 45 minutes round trip. Club entry, shower, and finding girl should take 15 minutes, one session takes 30 minutes. So far you have used 1.5 hours of the 2.5 alloted, and have one hour left for recovery and possibly one more quickie. All in all it sounds do-able so long as you don't get caught in traffic.
Annother option would be to book a flight with a longer lay-over, which is something I suspect many business travelers intentionally do when connecting in Frankfurt.
After much review of reports on this site and others, I made my first foray to German FKK land at The Palace on April 5 and 6. I had decided on the Palace as a good first destination, in spite of some of the negative and lukewarm reports here about "burn and churn" issues at Palace. I am happy to report that my experience was extremely positive overall, and while I'm sure that some of the other clubs may exceed Palace in terms of service and selection, I can without reservation recommend The Palace as a great experience, especially if you do your homework here first.
I arrived Thursday morning by plane and headed straight to the Fleming Hotel (about 30E cab fare is to be expected). I was pleased to see just how convenient to Palace the hotel is, literally about 30 yards away. A great little hotel, with nice rooms for a reasonable price (about $75US per night is what I paid), with the added bonus of a nice restaurant and bar. The hotel was absolutely dead during my visit. I guess that Easter weekend is not a big draw to this area of Frankfurt.
After resting up a bit, I headed over to The Palace about 3PM on Thursday. I got my quick "first timer" tour of the layout and locations of lockers and pricing structure (which I was fully aware of from reports here). Showered and headed out to the main bar area to find a nice assortment of girls already in residence, probably about 20-25. I was happy to see that most were excellent in terms of looks, ranging mostly from 7-10's, with very few exceptions (a couple of tired looking older Asians). Seated at a couch in the main lounge, several girls made the rounds. I politely declined company of a few initally, while enjoying a little small talk and under the robe tugging on my johnson.
First up was:
Angelique from RUS
Looks: petite with A cups, short black hair, very slim, not much of an ass. Seemed friendly and genuine in our couch time together, so decided to give her a try. Headed to a room, and she was very much a GFE type. Lots of DFK, stroking, and fondling, and then on to a very nice slow BBJ. Given this was my first FKk experience, and I was just a little nervous, but was pleasantly surprised that I was able to relax and really enjoy her, including a little DATY and fingering. After about 20 minutes, I asked if I could COF, and she happily obliged, and enjoyed making a mess of her cute little face. While I'd rate Angeliqe only about 6 or 7 in terms of looks, I'd rate her closer to a 9 or 10 in service.
Rested up for a bit, and though I'd check out the Kino, which was pretty dead at this hour. I noticed over my two days that the Kino was a good spot if you wanted to take a lazy approach to selecting a girl, since many seemed to stop by periodically to look for targets, and it was easy enough to politely say no until you found someone of interest. I chilled for a bit (I have to laugh at a recent poster complaining of the quality of porn on the Palace kino screen. I mean come on. That is really getting picky). In the kino, I struck up a conversation with Patrice from BRZ. I decided to let her initiate some fondling and nice BBBJ in the kino, and we headed off for a room. In the room, she continued with her BBBJ, and I reciprocated with some DATY and she got very wet. No lube needed for this girl. We fucked in several positions. CG, Reverse CG, MS, and Doggy, all very spirited on her part. With 30 minutes just about approaching, I unloaded in doggy, and she continued to thrust with me for a few minutes afterwards. I'd give Patrice 8 in looks and 10 in the service department. Very friendly and full of energy.
Took a chill for a little while on the main lounge swing, and noticed a new arrival. Blond, slim, and incredibly large natural breasts. I wondered if this could be the famous Linda from CHK, although my mental image of Linda from reading reports here was that she was a little older and with dark hair. I struck up a conversation and was excited to learn that she was in fact Linda from CHK. What a sweetie. A perfect body, great ass, slim toned body, and just incredible natural hangers, at least EE if not larger. A little couch action with light kissing, and we went off to a room. I'd read here that Linda's strong suit was her BBBJ, so I decided to make that the main event for this round. We kissed and fondled for about 5 minutes and she headed into a very soft and gentle BBBJ. She gave me her upsell pitch in such a sweet little voice "and it's only 50E more for you to come in my mouth". I already had planned on that with her, so accepted to a big smile on her part, and back to her well practiced art form. Linda gradually picked up the pace on the BBBJ. Luckily, I have pretty good staying power, and was able to make her work for almost the full 30 minutes for happily depositing a load in her sweet mouth. She continued on for a couple of minutes afterwards, which was nice vs. An abrupt stop right after. Snuggled for the remaining 5 minutes or so, and that was that. I'd experienced one of the Palace legends with a very relaxed and enjoyable session. As reported here, I noticed over my two day stay that Linda was always in demand. The girl is quite a machine, essentially heading off for a session within just a few minutes of reappearing to the open area, over her entire shift. She must "process" at least 12-15 men daily, maybe more. More about Linda on Day 2.
One of the great things about the action on this day was that there was a plentiful supply of ladies, and not too many punters. I'd put the ratio at about 2: 1. The numbers and ratios changed as it got later. It seems that from about 4PM to 9PM is about optimal in terms of mongering in a relaxed atmosphere with a good selection and no waiting for rooms.
I checked out the Palace buffet as it was presented around 6PM. The food was edible, but I really wasn't here for a gourmet meal. Picked at a couple of things, and decided to save my appetite for a real meal next store at the hotel later on.
I'd noticed a girl with shoulder length, curly blond hair, nice natural upturned be or Cup breasts, and overall nice figure while resting between sessions that looked interesting. After repairing to the Kino to recover from Linda, I was approached by her, and learned that she was Vanessa from RUS. We talked for quite a while in the kino, and initiated some fondling and then some nice BBBJ. I asked her if she wanted to continue in the kino, but said she'd prefer that we get a room, which we did. We had a great session with BBBJ, DATY, fucking in any several positions, and then more BBBJ. She asked if I wanted to CIM, and politely reminded me of the 50E policy (which for me isn't a big deal, as it's really my favorite way to release). She worked diligently, and I was taking a while, and could see that Vanessa was looking to please me and get me off. She offered to oil me up, and finished with a very nice, experienced HJ release. With no visible disappointment of missing on the extra 50E for CIM. Another really nice experience. I was beginning to wonder what all the fuss on this site about poor or rushed service was all about, as I'd yet to experience anything but great service.
After 4 nice pops, I decided I'd take a little dinner break, and headed back over to Flemings for a little gourmet room service. The restaurant has a nice menu, leaning towards Italian with some traditional German dishes, steaks, etc. And puts out some great food. Now nourished, rested up, and bored with flicking through the German TV channels (never checked out the continuous porn channels, other than seeing that they momentarily appeared when flicking through the channels.something I'm sure parents staying with children at the hotel must love!. I can hear the questions. Daddy, what's that? Why is that man's penis inside that woman's asshole? Is that how you make babies? ).
Wondered back over to Palace about 11PM to see what the night scene was like. Quite different from day, a few more girls, some different from earlier, including what appeared to be the "Romanian Brigade". Also many more male customers. The total selection probably was worse than earlier in the day, with more of the quality girls already whisked away to rooms. A lot of guys sitting around without much circulation of girls. At night, if you want a particular girl, you need to be a little more aggressive in pursuit. Perhaps if you are a regular that wouldn't be necessary. I decided to test my luck with a beatiful, young creature from ROM, Andrea. Nice slim figure with wide hips, nice natural see cups, a couple of tatoos, and long blond hair. My expectations were not high, given what I'd heard about the Romanian crew. A little quick couch action, and off to a room. Started off with some BBBJ, and I could tell that a fifth pop for the night was going to take some work. She worked me pretty good with her mouth, I think expecting that I would pop my cork quickly, but I wasn't the easy mark she might have hoped for. She asked me what position I'd like to fuck in, and I said all of them. She furiously pumped me in CG and Revese CG and banged up against me in doggy, but I was still going strong. I don't think she really enjoyed fucking so much, and asked if I might prefer a BJ finish with CIM. I said, maybe so. She worked me good again, and resorted to some hand pumping after about 10 minutes. I said I'd like to finish like that, and she obliged, although unlike Vanessa, I could visibly tell that she was a little annoyed that she had to work so hard with no extra for CIM. Still, even though Andrea wasn't nearly as friendly as some of the other fine ladies I'd experienced today, she still put forth a professional effort and wanted to get me off. I'd give her 9 in looks and 7 in service. Not the burn and churn I'd read about, but that may have more to do with the fact that I generally need some time to finish, especially on orgasm number 5 for the day.
While I was tempted to stay on for more, at late forties in age, I figured I'd save plenty of bullets for Day 2, and also the selection of available ladies was not that great, so I called it a night. More to come on Day 2 in a separate report.
Thanks again to all the posters here for the great info. Very helpful, so much so that I almost felt like a regular even on my first trip in.
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Sebastiane
04-09-07, 21:29
hi,
i've been to palace before and plan on going again soon. having read some of the reports on here, i've got a few questions:
1. where inside palace is the kino as i didn't spot it last time?
2. which of the girls here are absolute musts for service?
3. are the girls expected to french kiss you or not?
4. what is daty?
5. if you want to try something a bit 'sick' like getting the girl to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on you or fart on you, is that allowed?
thanks.
Sebastiane
04-09-07, 21:35
Although I have really enjoyed my only Palace experience so far I'd also like to try others in the vicinity. Any recommendations?
Thanks!
I awoke in my Fleming's hotel room Friday to a beautiful spring day in Frankfurt. Temps around 70F. Grabbed some breakfast and went for a run through a nearby park and what looked to be a huge public swimming pool in the summertime. Was surprised by the number of people hanging out in the park for a week day, but later realized that Good Friday (or whatever they call it here) is essentially a national holiday. I wondered how this might effect the mongering conditions at the Palace later in the day, given the reports by several ladies on Thursday that they would be taking the day off, or at least cutting back on hours. Enjoyed a few beers on the outside deck of the hotel restaurant, just soaking in the warmth and the sun, and thinking about the previous day's experience and that day's festivities to come.
Headed over to Palace about 4PM. The place was really slow. Only about 10 girls and about the same number of customers. I was disappointed to think that these conditions would be it for my last day here. But, I'd already paid up, and figured things could only get better hopefully. Grabbed a drink and a spot on the large couch adjacent to the main bar. There was only one other person on the far end of the couch, who turned out to be Rebecca from RUS. She called over to see if I wanted some company, and I said sure come on over. We hung out for quite a while chatting about Palace, her take on Easter, and the current lack of girls and customers. After a while, I initiated some contact and she reciprocated with some nice gentle under the robe action while we talked. After a few minutes I noticed she had my johnson all the way out of my robe and at full attention...got a few looks from the small number of girls hanging out at the bar, but I'd lost any sense of modesty long ago, and actually enjoyed our little show of exhibitionism. I suggested we head to a room, and Rebecca was happy to oblige.
Rebecca was a nice looker. Slim, tanned, great natural Bee cups, nice round ass, and medium length blond hair. I'd say 9 of 10 in looks and the same in service. No rush at all, and we fondled and DFK'd for a bit, before heading into some BBBJ and 69. Spent some more time on DATY, which she seemed to enjoy, and then some nice relaxed fucking in several positions. She asked how I'd like to come, and I said I'd like to COF if she was up for that, and got an immediate "no problem". Like the day before, I figured my best velocity and volume was going to be with SOG #1, so may as well make the most of that. I straddled Rebecca and face fucked her for several minutes, with her taking turns grabbing my johnson and slapping it against her face, mouth, and tongue. When it was time to release, I went for the full porn star release, jacking off on her mouth, nose, and cheeks, and she grabbed my cock and rubbed it all over her face, spreading around the "sperm" as she referred to it. She made it a real PSE, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that from such a gentle and laid back girl. A nice start to what appeared to be a slow day.
I hung out in the main lounge for a while to rest up, and a few more girls and customers trickled in, but it was still rather dead. One of the girls I'd had my eye on a bit, was a young dark haired girl, who appeared to be a friend of Linda from CHK (I'd seen them hanging out and talking quite a bit together the day before). This girl looked amazingly like what I'd imagine that Catherine Zeta Jones looked like at 18 or 20, and I'd guessed she was about that age. She liked to hang out at the end of the bar, overlooking the main lounge, showing off her large, plump tits for all to admire, absolutely gorgeous. I decided to approach her, and she introduced herself to me as Frederica from CHK, and she said that while she was a friend of Linda's, "she was not Linda, she was Frederica"...I'd soon learn what she meant by that. We headed off to a room with no couch action first (which was probably a mistake on my part, but I'd been batting .1000 so far, so I figured I'd take one for the team, since I hadn't remembered reading anything about a Frederica here on the site). When we got to the room, she was fairly business like, letting me know my options, and asking if I wanted CIM right off the bat. I said we'll see...and I could tell that wasn't the answer she was hoping for. I admired and played with her nice C or D cup titties for a few minutes and she moved into some BBBJ. Not the most spirited BJ, but initially not too bad. Asked if I wanted to fuck, and I had to give her and her tight little bod a spin. She went immediately for reverse CG, and I think she thought she'd get me off quickly, with her 60 MPH pumping...but that was not going to happen. Moved to CG, some doggy and missionary, and I could tell that she really was getting a little frustrated that I hadn't popped yet. She suggested she finish me with a BJ CIM, and I said let's see what happens. We were only about 15 minutes into our session, and she worked me for the remaining 15 minutes, with a combination of BBBJ and hand pumping. I had to stop her a couple of times, because her teeth were getting in the way of enjoying the BJ...she said in her cute little CHK accent "but your dick is long, and I can't help it"..and while that was nice to hear, it really didn't help matters. She gave me a warning at 5 minutes till the end, and I do have to give it to her, she really tried hard to make me come, but between her teeth and her overall vibe, I couldn't finish with the poor girl. We called it quits as the "bell rang" for time to be up. I looked at her face and it was covered with a lather of saliva from trying to get me off...I tried to be polite and said "it was nice anyway, even though I didn't get off, and she said "nice for you, but not for me..no CIM". Oh well, off to the lockers, and gave Frederica her hard earned 50E, and was off to look for better action. I noticed that she had a fair number of takers over the course of the two days I was there, but she did spend a fair amount of time advertising at the bar, so perhaps the local punters already know about what I'd discovered. 10 of 10 looks wise, but not much service wise.
Hung out for a bit more, and now I was really horny, after getting getting essentially a half hour dick tease from Frederica. By now it was dinner time, and I noticed that many more girls were streaming in, a good sign. Maybe not quite as many as the day before, but approaching that, and many new faces. There was one girl that kept pressing me for action, a long haired blond (fake I think) walking around in a little nighty, even though this was not Dessouse Day (can't remember her name, but remember she said she was from Russia). She seemed very forward, and I just got the wrong vibe from her, so never took her up on her offers...
Was sitting on one of the smaller couches in the main lounge, and signaled up to a petite girl with long dark hair, and small, but nice shaped natural breasts to come over. She sat next to me and we began to chat and conduct a little couch action. Before too long, the blonde Russian comes over and asks if I want to go off to a room with both of them for some two girl action. She starts working on my johnson pretty good on the couch, even though I'm paying her almost no attention while focusing on her friend. I ask if her breasts are real, and pull down her lingerie to check...she said yes, but I honestly thought they might be enhanced...I wondered what she was trying to hide under her little nightgown anyway. She said she was shy (while stroking my cock in the middle of lounge, yeh right). I told her I really wasn't up for a threesome, and to get rid of her, I said to the other girl, let's get a room.
Turned out to be Tabura (or something like that) from ROM. A little on the skinny side for me (quite skinny), but was nice overall. 7 of 10 looks, and actually very nice service, proving I guess that you can't just generalize that all the Romanian chicks are bad news. She gave me a spirited BBJ, fucked me nicely in several positions, and I told her I'd like to CIM, which always seems to put a smile on a Palace girl's face. She blew me like a champ, although I was disappointed that she, and all the other girls I had come across so far, was not able to DT me...I figured that these girls most come across pretty decent sized cocks like mine all the time, but no total deepthroat was to be had over the course of my two days (sounds like I need a trip to Bernds for the Deep Throat Masters).
Hung out in the waiting lounge just off the main lounge, which seemed to be a good place to chill for a while. I thought about getting a massage, but the masseuse was busy when I checked a couple of times. Headed into the kino and dozed off for while. I saw a few examples of full-on kino action over the two days, but really thought it was a little rude to just sit and watch for more than an occasional glance to see if the girl peforming was doing a good job. I noticed though that a few gents really seemd to like just being a voyeur, basically sitting there just watching the whole thing...kind of weird to me. Anyway, while trying to nap, I got hit on by a few ladies, and turned them away until I was presented by an exotic looking creature with big natural breasts, and what appeared to be a very nice body overall..just a little "meat on the bone", but quite nice. This was the only girl that I spent time with that I can't remember her name, as she literally caught me dozing and I was still half asleep when I asked her name. Curly ringlet hairdo, dark with a few blond streaks. I told her I was resting, but she was welcome to come rest with me. She was very friendly, and we enjoyed a smoke together and some nice conversation. She was in no rush to get the action moving, which I liked about her. Really after a while, it was me who decided that I'd like to progress things with her and began sucking on her nice full breasts (D cup I'd say - natural but still quite perky). She liked that, and cupped each breast alternately while I "milked the cow"...moved into some nice DFK but still very relaxed. She opened up my robe and started to stroke my johnson back to life, with a nice slow handjob. I gently fingered her pussy and she gave me a little BBBJ. Asked if I wanted to get a room, and I said, we're nice and relaxed here, why don't we just stay in the kino. She goes on with a very nice wet BBBJ for a good 10 or 15 minutes...lots of swirling action, tongue work, a real pro. She asks if I want to fuck OR if maybe I'd like to fuck her tits, which struck me as the option of choice at that moment. She put a little oil between her breasts lay back and I straddled her. Her tits were made for tit-fucking, and she wrapped them around my cock as I slid back and forth. Each time I moved forward, she'd reach out and tongue my cock, and every few minutes I'd move to face fucking her. I noticed we'd drawn a little audience of voyeurs, but I really didn't care...this is not a place of modesty after all. Back and forth between titty fucking and face fucking until I exploded...Have to say, this girl was one of my nicest experiences...totally unplanned, totally spontaneous, and just total GFE service. Wish I could remember her name!
The place was starting to get real crowded with guys, and the ratio of available girls was starting to decline. I headed back to the hotel for what I have to say was one of the best room service meals I've ever had, and got a kick out of watching the Masters golf tournament live with German coverage from across the ocean.
I knew that I unfortunately, had to leave the following morning, but wanted to go back to the Palace for a last "nightcap" (they are happy to give you a return ticket so you don't have to pay a return visit later the same day). The place was pretty packed with guys, and I noticed that the selection of girls seemed to be somewhat limited - a combination of the holiday and the fact that all the top girls were taken in rooms. The Romanian Brigade was there in full force, and maybe word about them is getting around, because many of them didn't seem to be getting the same amount of action as some of the others. From overhearing a few conversations, I heard that Olympia and Bianca were there...and several of them seemed to hang out together on the couch that faces the main lounge...advertising their wares and making the rounds. I was only there for one last round and wanted to make it a memorable one. After hanging a bit with nothing of interest in sight, I noticed Linda from CHK walking back in to the main lounge and up the stairs to the bar. A quick decision that she would work nicely for my final Palace nightcap for this trip. figured I needed to work quickly before she was taken, and walked over and caught her eye immediately. Linda came down the stairs and said "Yes, I can make time for you now" in her sweet little voice. We went to get a room, and they were all taken. She asked me to wait while she surveyed other areas for an open room. She came back and said we'd have to wait for a bit, and laid out her towel on one of the couches in the waiting area. I'd noticed that Linda was not shy about Kino action, seeing her in there a couple of times over the two days while I was occupied with another girl, so I suggested we go to the kino rather than a room. She said "are you sure", and I smiled and said let's go. There was a bit of action going on, but the large sofabed just to the right as you walk in was available, and we grabbed it.
Before any discussion, we just started some nice DFK and snuggling for a few minutes. She moved to her patented soft gentle BBBJ and went on for several minutes. She asked if I wanted anything else, and I let her know I just wanted to keep going with the BJ...just as the day before she said sweetly "and it's only 50E more and you can come in my mouth". That was already a foregone conclusion about how I wanted to finish my Palace experience, being the CIM lover that I am. I asked Linda to step up the pace, knowing that it was going to take some work on her part to make me come. What a sight, watching this buxom beauty work my cock like a champ, while several had gathered to watch and admire. Linda really had to work it, and I know we went over the 30 minute time frame, before I finally let go with a toe curling pop...she kept going on for a few minutes and swallowed my load before reaching over and spraying her mouth with a little mouthwass spray of some kind. Then she came back over for a little snuggle for a couple of minutes and then off to the lockers. Linda is a real pro, giving you a seemingly great GFE experience, even though she is probably one of, if not the most, in demand girl at the Palace.
While showering and getting ready to leave, I had to pinch myself to make sure that I wasn't dreaming...that places like this really do exist, and put to shame any lame stripclub jackschacks or high priced, over the hill escorts back in the states. I thought to myself, this really is the most civilized way to monger...and as Arnold says..."I'll be back"
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Hello to all,
I tried to post this earlier from my PDA phone, but as it has not yet appeared I am trying again as the previous post probably disappeared into wherever lost internet content goes! Firstly I should apologize that my first post is a question rather than a report, but I will write a summary of my first trip to the palace shortly.
I had a fantastic time with a Polish girl, and would dearly love to recover her name, which I unforgivably have forgotten. She is fairly tall with shoulder length, fairly straight blond hair, just loose around her face and not tied up. Body wise she is pretty slim with a lovely flat belly and nicely toned arms and legs. A cute face, skin more pale than tanned with some freckles and no tattoos or obvious piercings that I could see! Rather smallish and not very perky breasts (all natural that's for sure). She speaks german and okay english and is pretty approachable and friendly. She was occasionally with her friend Isabelle, another polish blonde with longer tied back hair and a rounder body and breasts. She was a non-smoker (rare in an fkk)! and was at Palace on Monday (2nd) and Tuesday (3rd) nights.
Phew, quite a description! If anyone knows who I might be talking about and can remember her name I would be eternally grateful! On a more general note, as a relative newbie and having poor german (French, Spanish and English are my modes of communication), I have to say I find the Palace to be a paradise on earth. Take a smile and a playful attitude, respect the girl’s feelings and bodies, and don’t take it all so seriously and it can truly be the most fun place around. Out of two visits and six girls, I am hopelessly in love with two of them, two sessions were very good and two I would classify as churn and burn. However, even one of the churn and burn girls I managed to reduce to fits of laughter by asking her where the fire was and jumping off the bed in fake panic, and it all ended in very good terms. Anyway – a more detailed report on the above later.
Thanks to all previous posters for all the great info.I think you will find her name is Roxana great girl!
Hessen Bub
04-10-07, 19:11
I had a fantastic time with a Polish girl, and would dearly love to recover her name, which I unforgivably have forgotten.
Maybe that was Isabella? Day shift?
Hessen Bub
Maybe that was Isabella? Day shift?
Hessen Bub
Hey Bub,
Are you talking about this Isabella: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=355145&postcount=381
I never saw her after that session, but then again I have seldom visited Palace during daytime. Would surely like to visit that body again.
Chivaz
Wdeville,
Thanks alot for those two really fantastic reports! You really managed to capture the vibe of the place and your posts are really outstanding. Many are slapping Palace down as a club rife with rip-off, churn and burn acts. They say: You can't get a decent session at Palace. Not worth the extra 10E to enter...etc.
Well you posts have shown that a successfull night of mongering is an easy harvest at Palace. It all depends on who you select as your session partners. Btw, Wdeville, you seem to have skimmed the creme de la creme of the Palace shifts. You were consistently able to score high and easily find your way in between the legs/lips of some of Palace's finest girls, true top acts. Congrats!
I fucking bet you'll be back...!!!
Thanks again for great posts...
Ortos
Frank Furious
04-10-07, 21:36
There is so much information about Palace here, tips, do's, don'ts, etiquette and all kinds of stuff, before I went there I found it a bit bewildering trying to remember everything. I'd say just forget everything and go there. The natural intelligence between your legs will have it all worked out in a couple of hours or a couple of visits.
Some dude just made a big post and said, he had to remind himself that it wasn't all a dream. I think this is a good way to discribe it. Not having any FKK experience I just thought this was a bit like Spearmint Rhino, but the girls wear less or nothing and you can screw all of them. Infact having been in this place it just makes table dancing, strip clubs and other forms of adult entertainment look like rabbit droppings.
I stayed at Radisson SAS, which is a good 4/5 star hotel about 10 minutes away by cab. Every cab driver knows how to get there. I paid 75 E to get in and was told by a driver that it's 10 or 5 euro less than that if there is no Messe on at the time.
I paid 75 E to get in and was told by a driver that it's 10 or 5 euro less than that if there is no Messe on at the time.I believe your driver was misinformed. I'm fairly certain that the price is 75E at all times, at least I've never been charged, and never seen anyone be charged, less.
Though in this instance I'd happily be proved wrong :)
I stayed at Radisson SAS, which is a good 4/5 star hotel about 10 minutes away by cab. Every cab driver knows how to get there. I paid 75 E to get in and was told by a driver that it's 10 or 5 euro less than that if there is no Messe on at the time.
I'm glad you can afford to stay at the Radisson. Not a cheap hotel, eh?
Don't believe anything taxi drivers say. The comment about reduced entry to Palace during non-Messe: This is utter bullshit! Not true...
Ortos
Alpenpluck
04-11-07, 08:39
From Qjump: I think you will find her name is Roxana great girl!
Roxana, Hmmnn. Maybe the name rings a bell, not sure though. Certainly a great girl. Does she come across as being very intelligent? Apparently she is studying to be a lawyer and despite her english not being the best she is one smart girl and interesting / fun conversationalist (plus being a tornado in the room). She was a complete disaster though for my plans to see a few girls on my second night at Palace as I ended up spending the rest of my evening with her after our session just eating dinner and cuddling, joking and chatting at the bar! I kept thinking that it was weird that she did not head off looking for other guys, but as I was rapidly falling head over heels for her I was not complaining! :) Hopefully my job will take me back to Frankfurt next week! Do you have any idea of her schedule (weeks or weekends, days or nights), as I would love to see her again.
From Hessen Bub: Maybe that was Isabella? Day shift?
No, I saw and talked briefly to Isabella, also blond and Polish but a bit more rounded and large breasted than my mystery girl (they were friends and seemed to hang out with each other at times) was on the days I was there. She also seemed very sweet. Sorry Chivas, she does not sound like the dark haired, Romanian Isabella that you mention.
In general I found the afternoons and early evenings much more fun at Palace as there just seems to be a much less busy vibe. The girls seem happier to talk and relax for a bit without wanting to drag you to a room within 30 seconds. If having a bit of a connection with a girl before having sex is important to you (as it is for me) it is a much less high-pressure environment.
Although I have really enjoyed my only Palace experience so far I'd also like to try others in the vicinity. Any recommendations?
Thanks!
.. but the other major two clubs of the Hessen 3 are not directly in the city.
There is more than enough content about these clubs on this forum.
Seek and you shall find.
In fact, its quite simple: the clubs which generate the most posts under this forum are hidden in plain sight.
Chill Bill
04-11-07, 17:01
Can someone tell me if The Palace accepts Visa Credit Cards for the enterance fee.
Thanks
Can someone tell me if The Palace accepts Visa Credit Cards for the enterance fee.
Thanks
Last time I checked they did not. They have an ATM in there that does NOT work with foreign credit cards (works only with some sort of local German bank cards, I think). Better bring those euro bills with you. If you don't, the nearest ATM (Geldautomat) is 200 meters away from Palace (see this report for directions: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=443621#post443621 ).
Contrary to Palace, Oase usually accept Visa, but they add a 10% service charge to the bill, so I never use it. World of course have a wonderful ATM machine inside the building that never seems getting empty ... ;-)))
Can someone tell me if The Palace accepts Visa Credit Cards for the enterance fee.
ThanksThey will accept Dollars/Pound sterling in cash, etc, but you will get a bum exchange rate for sure, so just take plenty of cash, Germany as a country do es not accept credit cards as widely as say the US/Canada/UK for example.
Alpenpluck,
You are definitly talking about Eva (or Ewa) originally from Gdansk (or Danzig) in Poland. She is a law student, smart, interesting, friendly, sweet and, with your expression, a tornado in the room. No wonder, she is also one of my all time favorits.
As she is close to graduating, I just hope she will not quit Palace for the big bucks as a corporate laywer.
F
Thanks for your advice. That's fine for me. I'm not picky.
Sebastiane
04-15-07, 21:57
Today (Sunday) I made a second visit to the palace. I went about 4 pm and initially it was very quiet with only a few girls and a few old guys lounging around.
I had a wander and sat down at the bar to have a coffee when an average looking girl came and sat next to me. We got talking and she was really good fun and friendly. Her name was Bea (I hope that is how it is spelt!) and she is German from Stuttgart. Well, although I was planning on taking longer and waiting for more girls to arrive, she seduced me into going to a room with her and I have to say she was bloody amazing. Only about a 6/7 in the looks department but she gave me the best sex of my life. We shagged for over an hour with DFK, DATY, 69, analingus,licking my body all over, sex in different positions, constant DFK whilst we fucked, she even spat in my mouth (!), and she got so excited she even bit me! I am pretty sure she had a number of orgasms too (I know she is a pro and could have been faking it but she was so turned on and horny I don't think so). Anyway it was incredible and a real GFE. Wow. 10/10 for service. She is definitely one to look out for. Dark-Blond hair, slightly buxom, largish-build, a couple of extra pounds but still attractive and boy can she fcuk! A great girl with a fantastic personality. I'd take her over the 'I'm so perfectly beautiful' girls and I'm a real sucker for the beautiful ones. See next bit!
I was absolutely exhaused by that marathon session (for which I paid her 100 euros and should have given a tip too!) and after showering had some of the salad and a few drinks. As the number of girls increased I saw one with a pretty face and an absolutely amazing arse (slightly large) whom I'd also spotted last time. Darkish straight hair. Well got talking to her just to be friendly and she offered me a massage. Being new to this game I thought it was on the house (!) and she took me to the room and was friendly but after a while (about 15 min) I said I just wanted a massage and no sex since I was still too tired. We agreed on 35 euro. During the massage I felt horny again and I said ok we have 15 mins left can you blow me please and she refused saying I'd have to pay her 50 extra and that once a guy enters a girl's room it is 50 and a massage was not a standard service. I didn't argue but felt a bit cheated. Her name is Nadia and she is Polish. Cute but a bit devious. Still an arse to die for...
I then was about to leave but decided on another coffee. As I was sitting down a lot more girls were about, many very attractive, 8/9s. Since not so many younger guys were about still like me a lot of them came up to me and started flirting but I am understanding this game and got a few kisses but put them off saying I was too tired and would think about it later to all of them!
I then saw this really nice Romanian girl called Adeela or Lyddia or something who was playing a game on the console. She is quite petite, dark haired, looked middle-eastern, and spoke perfect English who was really very interesting and we had a really good conversation. I was sorely tempted but still told her I'd think about it. She is one I definitely do want to see again. Lovely girl.
Spoke to another German girl, who I mistook for being Swedish since she was tall, fair, blonde and blue-eyed.
Then a slightly older (late 20s/early 30s perhaps) girl sat next to me and pushed herself up against me. That was erotic and we began talking. She was Turkish and called Dilara. Great body, enhanced boobs (I asked!) though. Still she was so nice and friendly and said she was a 'sex teacher' and boasted about her blowjob abilities. I was sold and she DFK me on the couch too. So we went to a room and she gave me an incredible BBBJ and even licked my arse. We also 69ed and I stuck a finger up her arsehole which turned her on.
I eventually came from the second round of arse-licking/handjob/blowjob combo. A very good pro indeed.
Still, one side of me wished I'd gone with that intelligent and pretty, petite Romanian girl who was playing an electronic game or the Swedish looking one.
Then I forced myself to go as I ended up paying twice as much as I planned. I cannot keep this up it is too costly but too tempting!
So one amazing fuck, one amazing blowjob, and one rip-off.
Next time I think I will try for the really good looking ones unless Bea is then again.
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Has anyone had the pleasure of hooking up with Andrea? She's originally from Columbia but now living in Spain. Fantastic body, petite, w/ great tits. And oh god can she get it on. Lemme know if you've hooked up w/ her and if you thought she was as awesome as I did.
Has anyone had the pleasure of hooking up with Andrea? She's originally from Columbia but now living in Spain. Fantastic body, petite, w/ great tits. And oh god can she get it on. Lemme know if you've hooked up w/ her and if you thought she was as awesome as I did.
I guess Dvorak1 has changed Id to Chappy now obsesing over the same girl.
Hessen Bub
04-16-07, 14:05
Has anyone had the pleasure of hooking up with Andrea?
Lemme know if you've hooked up w/ her and if you thought she was as awesome as I did.
Been with her several times, on her first day in Palace months ago and in February. Good sessions, she does everything you want and can be done quite hard, which is surprising seeing the small thing. She claims to do a good massage too, but I never tried.
Hessen Bub
I had a wander and sat down at the bar to have a coffee when an average looking girl came and sat next to me. We got talking and she was really good fun and friendly. Her name was Bea (I hope that is how it is spelt!) and she is German from Stuttgart. Well, although I was planning on taking longer and waiting for more girls to arrive, she seduced me into going to a room with her and I have to say she was bloody amazing. Only about a 6/7 in the looks department but she gave me the best sex of my life. We shagged for over an hour with DFK, DATY, 69, analingus,licking my body all over, sex in different positions, constant DFK whilst we fucked, she even spat in my mouth (!), and she got so excited she even bit me! I am pretty sure she had a number of orgasms too (I know she is a pro and could have been faking it but she was so turned on and horny I don't think so). Anyway it was incredible and a real GFE. Wow. 10/10 for service. She is definitely one to look out for. Dark-Blond hair, slightly buxom, largish-build, a couple of extra pounds but still attractive and boy can she fcuk! A great girl with a fantastic personality. I'd take her over the 'I'm so perfectly beautiful' girls and I'm a real sucker for the beautiful ones. See next bit!
Well, welcome to the recipie of good fkking: Don't assume looks = performance. It pays to be really turned on to a 7 who performs...often referred to as "second shelf" or "B-team" girls looks-wise, some of these 7's and MILFs represent, for me at least, the top shelf of GFEs. And the beauty is you can find this type of girl in every club.
With specific reference to this Stuttgart Bea: I vaguely remember being approached a few times in the kino by a girl fitting the general description you give of Bea. I thought she said she came from Ashaftsburg...?? Tell me: Did she wear boots? Is she in her 30s rather than 20s??
Just curious...
Ortos
What's the parking situation like at this club??
What's the parking situation like at this club??They have a parking lot, and every time except one I've been able to find a free spot there. But I usually arrive mid-afternoon, might be trickier later in the evening.
But if the parking lot should be full it seems very possible to park in the surrounding streets.
They have a parking lot, and every time except one I've been able to find a free spot there. But I usually arrive mid-afternoon, might be trickier later in the evening.
But if the parking lot should be full it seems very possible to park in the surrounding streets.
Yes, the parking lot at Palace is often full after 19.00. You can park in the street opposite. It is technically a no parking zone, but as you see on any given night, there are several cars that park there. It seems to be overlooked at night given the context. One can not say there are copious parking opportunities immediatly around Palace, but if you look hard enough and are a bit inventive, you will find... It's not like it is in the middle of a busy downtown business area. It is an industrial estate and at night there is not alot of business going down, except at Palace.
Buck Rogers
04-17-07, 21:33
With specific reference to this Stuttgart Bea: I vaguely remember being approached a few times in the kino by a girl fitting the general description you give of Bea. I thought she said she came from Ashaftsburg...?? Tell me: Did she wear boots? Is she in her 30s rather than 20s??
OrtosBea claimed she was 25 years old and I think she is, she didn’t have boots but red sandals with pretty high heels. She had blonde hair (long, not very long), I don’t remember them as dark blonde, for all other aspects Sybarite2006’s description is good.
But, as for me, she is not an average looking girl, she is an 8 or more, despite her being not exactly thin and a strong still cute face she has (beautiful sky-blue eyes), a perfect example of a german girl to me.
She is a tiger and she is very funny to talk too (good english), highly recommended from me too.
By the way, talking about beautiful ladies at Palace, the 2 most beautiful girls I’ve seen so far are Lina (not Linda, I had a session in December, no DFK and DATY) and Frederica (Wdeville got in the room with her recently), both from Czech republic.
They are 2 girls that basically have a session, they go to the shower, they go back to the main room and at once they begin to approach a man after another till they find the next client (not much time they need). Nothing wrong with that (except if you are a little troubled by the fact they might have touched 10 dicks one after another before approching you ...), but if the service is not that good, then 10 times better a less good looking girl (but still good-looking :) ) but more “customer-oriented”.
Still next time maybe I’ll try a session with Frederica, she seems plesant to talk too, but maybe the room is another thing.
Buck
Hessen Bub
04-18-07, 15:33
Take you hands off Lina and Frederika, both do a very rushy service, nothing you'd like to have. And Frederika/Frederica is from Slowakia, as well as the "Milchfabrik", Linda.
Hessen Bub
Buck Rogers
04-18-07, 19:46
Take you hands off Lina and Frederika, both do a very rushy service, nothing you'd like to have. And Frederika/Frederica is from Slowakia, as well as the "Milchfabrik", Linda.
Hessen BubI know you can tell by their attitude jumping without rest from a man to another but Frederika is just so good-looking to me that maybe I could try her once (and then never again), but maybe not.
About "Milchfabrik" Linda I observed her once when she had just arrived and started her Palace tour searching for the first client, it was quite funny to watch also because she strangely didn't get the client after the tour (she approached 10 men or so) and she went back where she started and you could tell she was pissed. She approched me too in the beginning of the tour, I said that I wasn't ready yet but that anyway it wouldn't take long to her to find a client (I guess I didn't bring her good luck...).
They both said they are from Czech Republic (once there was Czechoslovakia).
Actually a girl once said to me she was from Romania (I avoid Romanian almost by default, only a few but always poor experiences), another time she said she was from Poland.
Actually a girl once said to me she was from Romania (I avoid Romanian almost by default, only a few but always poor experiences), another time she said she was from Poland.
If you don't actually speak Polish or Romanian, its impossible to figure out if she is being truthful or not.
i don't understand this maniacal way of avoiding romanian. we italian are feared about the german and russian girl, maybe in the same wrong way.
what i mean is that several friends of mine has had great sessions with romanian (i've never tried yet), while me and friends had awful experience with some refrigerator from germany and russian/belarus/ukraine, than was running to get the 50 eur and nothing more.
at the same time i've learned that go to a girl and say "hi. come to a room?" is the quickiest way to be raped, while approaching the same girl, talking a little, joking, start a little game chat-touch and remaining respectous and friendly, generally will pay you in term of grateful session.
anyway when i can, i try to go on south-americans, or spanish girl.
this is in any case the thinking of a noob as i am.
If you don't actually speak Polish or Romanian, its impossible to figure out if she is being truthful or not.
That is not exactly true, to be honest, Jackyo. Whereas one might indeed not speak the language, one can distinguish which type of language it is by the sound and various inflections, etc. For example, I might not speak Russian (except a few phrases and odd words), but I can definitely tell when it is being spoken around me. Same with Polish, Czech, Romanian, etc... It just takes experience and an ear for "sprach-musik" and then you can make some pretty accurate educated guesses. Also, another give-away as to a girl's nationality is to observe who she hangs out with in between sessions and/or during dinner breaks, etc. One thing that seems to be a constant FKK phenomenon is that girls tend to form clicks along language and nationality lines...ja?
Ortos
That is not exactly true, to be honest, Jackyo. Whereas one might indeed not speak the language, one can distinguish which type of language it is by the sound and various inflections, etc. For example, I might not speak Russian (except a few phrases and odd words), but I can definitely tell when it is being spoken around me. Same with Polish, Czech, Romanian, etc... It just takes experience and an ear for "sprach-musik" and then you can make some pretty accurate educated guesses. Also, another give-away as to a girl's nationality is to observe who she hangs out with in between sessions and/or during dinner breaks, etc. One thing that seems to be a constant FKK phenomenon is that girls tend to form clicks along language and nationality lines...ja?
Ortos
I do agree that one can figure out where she comes from by observing who she hangs out with.
Birds of a feather flock together (and the same does hold for sex providers too).
A Polish friend of mine says there is a way to identify Russians when they speak. He says that Russians speak with big lips (which I guess implies that Poles speak with thin lips).
I do agree that one can figure out where she comes from by observing who she hangs out with.
Birds of a feather flock together (and the same does hold for sex providers too).
A Polish friend of mine says there is a way to identify Russians when they speak. He says that Russians speak with big lips (which I guess implies that Poles speak with thin lips).
LOL! It's true: I've had some pretty big bbbjs from Russians, and some pretty thin ones from Polish girls!
I have a Swedish friend who says she can always tell a Dane because it sounds like they are speaking Swedish with a potato in their mouth...
Ortos
Buck Rogers
04-19-07, 18:59
I don't understand this maniacal way of avoiding romanian. We italian are feared about the german and russian girl, maybe in the same wrong wayActually I'm italian and none of my sessions with german girls have been bad so far (Palace and elsewhere). The same with russian girls. I must say almost all were actually good.
I began to avoid romanian because I was unlucky with them (Palace and elsewhere): it happens once, twice, 3 times, ... well, you don't want to pick the romanian fruit anymore except she is very convincing (her attitude) when you chat with her.
Hello All!
I am staying in Bavaria and have the weekend free. On Saturday, I will head North with the sole purpose of visiting one of the more famous or infamous FKKs. Frankfurt is about 6 hours away and that makes the Frankfurt area probably as far as I will go. I am really interested in your thoughts. If you could only go to one FKK in the Frankfurt area, which one would it be? Oase? Palace? World? Which ever one has the most suggestions is where I will go and of course, I will provide a full report on my experiences. When you write your suggestion, please tell me why you think that one that you are suggesting is better than the other ones that I listed. I am looking forward to this experience and am relying on the more experienced members to point me in the right direction. Also if you have a hotel to recommend near your suggested FKK, that would be most appreciated also! I have only been to two FKKs. The Coliseum, which I thought was first rate and Flamingo Island which I thought was lame. You can read my reports on each under the appropriate headings. Thanks in advance for you help!
Jackson- I would like to be able to post this under several threads in order to get the maximum possible response since time is short before I head North.
LOL! It's true: I've had some pretty big bbbjs from Russians, and some pretty thin ones from Polish girls!
Ortos
I guess that it would hold true too that BBBJs from Russian chicks would have more lip in them than from Polish chicks. :-)
Hello All!
I am staying in Bavaria and have the weekend free. On Saturday, I will head North with the sole purpose of visiting one of the more famous or infamous FKKs. Frankfurt is about 6 hours away and that makes the Frankfurt area probably as far as I will go. I am really interested in your thoughts. If you could only go to one FKK in the Frankfurt area, which one would it be? Oase? Palace? World? Which ever one has the most suggestions is where I will go and of course, I will provide a full report on my experiences. When you write your suggestion, please tell me why you think that one that you are suggesting is better than the other ones that I listed. I am looking forward to this experience and am relying on the more experienced members to point me in the right direction. Also if you have a hotel to recommend near your suggested FKK, that would be most appreciated also! I have only been to two FKKs. The Coliseum, which I thought was first rate and Flamingo Island which I thought was lame. You can read my reports on each under the appropriate headings. Thanks in advance for you help!
Jackson- I would like to be able to post this under several threads in order to get the maximum possible response since time is short before I head North.
I am currently in Frankfurt for the next few days.
I have been to the suggested clubs a few times each. I can’t make recommendations on the current lineups at oases and world, I have not been there since June 06. From past visits I found that I preferred the girls at Oases then World and finally Palace.
I was at Palace last night and it was the same feeling as the last few times. There were many dark haired Romanians and blond Russians.
I was with a very nice girl from Argentina. She was very pleasant, but you could still tell it was an act. The next was a dark haired Romanian names Olympia. I wouldn’t recommend her. I’m not really sure why, it was almost good to get it over with, she first did a heavy up sell to CIM or even ball licking for 100. Also there were many times where I heard “don’t do that” I hate that.
I don’t find Palace as relaxing as Oases and World. There is a large room similar to Coliseum with really no place to get away and relax. I know the whole place is designed for relaxing, but it’s nice to sit and watch a football game and not bad porn on the TVs. At palace everyone is always in basically the same room so you are asked if you are interested in going to a room with them on a constant basis. There is no problem in saying no thank you, but sometime it’s nice to just sit and reload. , Oases and World have nice outside areas with a pool and private chairs if you want to have fun outside, World also has small cabins out in the yard.
Today I am going to Oases to see how the out side is pool area is coming along. The last time I was there it was ripped up and being fixed.
Saturday I will be at World, Hopefully the weather will hold up.
Also at World they have a Bar that opens up after dark, I’m not sure what time. Having a beer is nice at times.
Sorry this is so short, but I slept late and have a few things to do before the fun starts.
Hessen Bub
04-20-07, 19:22
The next was a dark haired Romanian names Olympia. I wouldn’t recommend her. I’m not really sure why, it was almost good to get it over with, she first did a heavy up sell to CIM or even ball licking for 100. Also there were many times where I heard “don’t do that” I hate that.
Yes, she can be very bitchy, but she can also perform excellently. And did you see her dance?! She can move her body ....
I was there also yesterday (Thursday) evening. You should have tried Sonia from Romania, great body, great performance, spoke fluent English.
At palace everyone is always in basically the same room so you are asked if you are interested in going to a room with them on a constant basis.
Didn't you find the new facilities with the steam bath in the back? There's no (quiet) music, mostly no girls and it is the ideal place to relax. And yes, Palace is missing outdoor facilities.
Hessen Bub
Last week, I made a short two-day trip to sample Frankfurt's famous FKK scene for the first time. I also lost another sort of virginity on this trip; more on that later.
I flew from home in London to Frankfurt on Lufthansa (£70 roundtrip, about $140). Stayed at the Hotel Apadana. Pleasant enough hotel for my needs. Just 35 euros a night including breakfast and walking distance to Frankfurt Hauptbanhof.
FKK Palace
Thursday: After checking into hotel and dumping my bag, I immediately took the U6 to the infamous Frankfurt Palace. The directions on this board were perfect. Before entering the Palace, I went next door for a few German beers to built up a bit of "Dutch Courage."
Entered Palace about 4pm. I told the girl at the desk that it was my first time and she proceeded to explain the price structure and layout of the place. I walked in and I felt like a kid in a candy store. Beautiful naked women everywhere. Great ratio: about 20 girls and 10 guys. Contrary to some of the negative comments I've seen on this thread, I had a FANTASTIC experience at the Palace. I felt immediately at home here. I found my seat at the bar where I spent the evening drinking about 20 coffees and cokes, watching the parade of pussy.
Girl 1: First girl I pulled was named Pum, a petite girl from Thailand with small tits. Said she was 24, looked much younger. I've always had a weakness for petite Asian girls and she did not disappoint. Enjoyable enough session. Good BBBJ, DATY and a good old-fashioned shag. Looks 7, session 7. 50 Euros.
I went into the Kino room to rest and was shocked at what was going on in there. This was my first time ever watching other people have sex live in front of me. It was a huge turn-on. Time for another session.
Girl 2: Evangeline. PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT. This was my best session of the entire trip. She was a beautiful German with long blonde hair and about C-cup breasts. Looks 9, Session 9. She complained that she wanted a breast lift but her boobs looked pretty good to me. Here's the virginity part. We went into the room and had a bit of OWO (her BJ's were a bit toothy), DATY. Then I decided to go for something I have NEVER done in my life: ANAL. Until today, I have never in my life had anal sex. I have tried with two past girlfriends but could never properly get into that back door. I confessed my newbie situation to Evangeline, who could not have been more patient and accommodating (pun intended). She got into a doggy position and guided me into her tight arse. All I can say is: HOT DAMN! Now I finally understand what all the fuss was about. I am a new convert. A new anal connoisseur. Had a fantastic session. I spent about 45 minutes with her but she only charged me 150 euros.
About 7pm, dinner was served. Pretty standard fare. Nothing special but it was filling. At this point, the club started getting quite full.
Girl 3: Lorena from Columbia. Age 25. Enhanced DD breasts that felt a bit hard with noticeable scars underneath. Looks 7, session 9. I chose her because she sat down at the bar. I speak pretty good Spanish so we struck up a great conversation. She took me to the kino room where she began to give a great BJ. Moved into a room and she was an absolute maniac in the sack, and a real screamer especially during DATY. She kept yelling "damme tu leche!" (Give me your milk!) Fan-fucking-tastic session.
About 10pm, another round of dinner was served but I was still full from before. Even worse, I realized I was starting to fall asleep because I had been up since 5am to catch my flight. Decided to call it a night.
I headed back to Frankfurt Hauptbanhof and thought, what the hell, since I was here I would check out the red light district. What a pain in the ass. I must have walked 1,000 stairs and was sweating like a pig to see girls, most of whom were pigs themselves. After all that work, I did not want to go back to the hotel empty-handed. So I picked the first semi-attractive girl I saw.
Girl 4: Marina, from Lithuania. Cute, looks 6-7. But after the Palace combined with fatigue, I could not complete. But she only charged 30 euros and got completely naked. We even had a nice chat about a book I was reading that I happened to have in my back pocket. (Yes, I brought a book to the Palace, but I only read it when I was on the metro; not at the bar).
For all the crap that everyone has given the Palace, I was pleasantly surprised. I had a fantastic time here. I was only bothered by two aggressive girls: Mona and Vanessa, both Romanian. But even they left me alone after several polite "no, thank yous." I did notice that the more aggressive girls arrived in the later hours. My most enjoyable experience occurred from 3-7pm when there were more girls than guys. For the users who were worried about their language skills, my lack of German did not hinder my experience at all. Every girl I encountered spoke at least a bit of English, and I probably spoke to about 30 girls that night.
If you have been debating about trying an FKK, don't think about it any longer. Just GO! I'm glad I did.
(Day Two of this report is posted on the thread for FKK Oase. It is NOT as glowing as this report)
Nice report, Bob, about one of my favourite places on the planet: Palace. True alot of guys here give this place a very negative review, unfairly, I've always thought. It's good to see that even an FKK newbie can come up with very positive results here, as I myself usually have...I will not slag off the other clubs, as I privately believe that success in FKK clubs depends more on YOUR ability to select the right session partner than it does on the girls available in a given club on a given night.
Btw: I also agree with you that Palace between 16-19.00 is a great place to monger, very mellow laid-back environment with great girls (several nice MILFs) and positive ratios, etc...
Just a tip: You left Palace at 22.00 because you were fatigued, etc. Whenever you leave Palace (or any club for that matter) just ask for a re-entry pass, because you can always come back later and NOT pay to re-enter. Sure you might not use it, but what the hell, why not have it? Imagine if you had gone back to hotel for a couple of hours sleep and then came back at, say, 1.00 a bit re-charged. It doesn't cost anything and with these clubs open till 04 or 05.00, you never know...
Ortos
Yes, she can be very bitchy, but she can also perform excellently. And did you see her dance?! She can move her body ....
I was there also yesterday (Thursday) evening. You should have tried Sonia from Romania, great body, great performance, spoke fluent English.
Didn't you find the new facilities with the steam bath in the back? There's no (quiet) music, mostly no girls and it is the ideal place to relax. And yes, Palace is missing outdoor facilities.
Hessen Bub
Hi Bub,
Yes I agree that it may have been a personal clicking thing. YMMV and I did like the sauna, but I can only go in there a few times.
I went to Oases last night and it just has a more comfortable feeling for me. There are places to just chill out.
The girls I was with also did not do any up selling or if they did it was simply mentioned and left at that.
I guess it is all just personnel perceptions. I'm off to World today to complete the trifecta.
I privately believe that success in FKK clubs depends more on YOUR ability to select the right session partner than it does on the girls available in a given club on a given night.
AMEN to that!
Just a tip: You left Palace at 22.00 because you were fatigued, etc. Whenever you leave Palace (or any club for that matter) just ask for a re-entry pass, because you can always come back later and NOT pay to re-enter. Sure you might not use it, but what the hell, why not have it? Imagine if you had gone back to hotel for a couple of hours sleep and then came back at, say, 1.00 a bit re-charged. It doesn't cost anything and with these clubs open till 04 or 05.00, you never know...
Ortos
Actually I forgot to mention that I did leave the Palace after girl #2, got my reentry pass, went to the Flemings hotel next door to grab a beer, and came back in for my last session. No problems whatsoever re-entering the club.
Seems like the Frankfurt big 3 have an influx of new talent.
1. Rebecca - Romanian, short, slim brunnette. Very sweet girl. Good session.
2. Olympia - I have good sessions w/her for some reason. I'd like to say it's my good looks but it's probably that she doesn't find me threatining or too repulsive.
I saw the lovely Andrea from World working. She looks older compared to the younger ladies BUT she knows how to FUCK! She has her Masters in fcking whereas the others are still working on their Bachelors or just getting their HS Diploma.
I'll have to tap her the next time I'm in.
Gentleman,
Going to hit Frankfurt in a week or 2 and was wondering what the deal was regarding booze in the clubs.
I gather that it does not come free, but was wondering how much your looking to spend to get a little 'merry'.Master seems every one is ignoring you. There is no booze at Palace or Oases. There is a bar (alochol) and beer at World where you have to buy tickets at the front desk and use them to pay for it. I don't drink anymore (wanted to leave some for the rest of you) so I can't tell you how much it costs. I have seen guys with bottles intheir lockers take aswig now and then. There are good reasons not to serve booze in these clubs. No fights, less soft dicks, climax easier in the 30 mintues alotted etc.
I enjoy the fkk experience alone but I am gonna take a friend from home (States) one of these days because no one here believes me when I describe this experience as being like a visit to the Playboy Mansion and you are Hugh Hefner. I need one other person back here that I am friends with to share the look in the eye after you walk into these places.
Enjoy and post a report.
JL
I saw the lovely Andrea from World working.
Stunning news! Almost unbelieveable! I gotta check this out.
Drooling ...
euro
Stunning news! Almost unbelieveable! I gotta check this out.
Drooling
EuroIs this a refernce to Adrienne as Dedalus told me a few weeks ago? Or a different girl? My Adrienne has a small $ tatoo on butt check, Worked World for years but Dedalus said she is at Palace now.
I arrive Thursday and need to know. Didn't plan to rent a car as I can only stay 4 days so I thought I would do Palace + Oases and not trek up to World but if Adrienne is not at Palace that may change.
Thanks,
JL
Nick The G
04-23-07, 10:40
I saw the lovely Andrea from World working. She looks older compared to the younger ladies BUT she knows how to FUCK! She has her Masters in fcking whereas the others are still working on their Bachelors or just getting their HS Diploma.This famous black-haired slim czech girl, many of us know her from her FKK-World days until August/September 2005, has been reported to work in a small german club again for the last couple of weeks under a different name.
Most of the RF guys know this, but due to highly restricted information politics in this special case, you will not find any information on her anymore under her original name in the RF.
Can anybody who knows her please positively confirm that she now works in the Palace in Frankfurt. This would be interesting, because Palace apparently doesn't belong to the Hells Angels Imperium of Clubs.
Also, keep in mind that she will work under a different name now.
What about Hessen Bub, he knows the scenery in Palace very well.
@ J. Long:
The way Rogers describes this woman Andrea, imho it definitely cannot be Adrienne! Adrienne has other qualities!
Recommendation: if these girls are present on the same day, do a "triple A" session sequence in Palace in the following order:
1. Adrienne from Hungary
2. Anjelica/Angelik from Russia (the former Miss Roemerforum)
3. Andrea from Czech Republik
and for sure you will have found the f**king stairway to heaven and you will feel like in paradise! :-)
Sounds like the time has come to visit Palace again, despite the beautiful weather and the high admission fee.
Hessen Bub
04-23-07, 11:22
What about Hessen Bub, he knows the scenery in Palace very well.
I've not seen Andrea (CZ) at Palace last Thursday, but I saw Adrienne (HU). Not quite sure how much this helps.
But I will look out for Andrea and I am sure, she'll recognize and hug me if she sees me at Palace.
Hessen Bub
Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to Adrea/Adrienne of Hungary. Never met the CZ one.
The one from Hungary is tan, implants and looks gypsy. She thinks she has a talent for singing but is quite annoying when she does sing. She can F though.
Dave Jamsis
04-23-07, 19:27
Greetings all.
I recently just returned home from a business trip to Europe over the past week. I will admit – since I made trip arrangements over three months ago, up until the day I left, I visited this topic post daily. I was very intrigued by information on The Palace. To say my experiences there far exceeded my expectations is an understatement. Two days after returning home, it still feels very surreal and like a dream. I would like to say thank you to all the posters that helped make my first visit like I was a veteran. My gifts in return are two very detailed reports.
Dave Jamsis
04-23-07, 19:37
All,
Rats! I just compllied a very long and descriptive report, however it won't post. After I hit 'submit report' and wait about 5 minutes, the screen changes to 'The page cannot be displayed'.
Any comments you can suggest? Report is about 3 pages. Maybe it is too long?
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Hi Dave,
There is a 50,000 character limit to a single report. This is necessary to prevent people from posting huge copy and pasted posts about nothing just for the purpose of fucking with the forum.
I sincerely hope that you followed the advice posted in the "Submit Report"
"PLEASE DON'T LOSE YOUR LONG REPORTS!"
Please remember that the Forum's software automatically logs you out after 30 minutes of inactivity. To avoid losing your long reports, please compose them in another program and then copy and paste them into this form. As an additional precaution to ensure that you do not lose your long reports, please save them to your clipboard BEFORE you click the "Submit Report" button. To save your report, select the text in the report window above, then press "CTRL+C".
Anyway, you are welcome to split and re-post your report into 2 or more individual reports.
Thanks,
Jackson
Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to Adrea/Adrienne of Hungary. Never met the CZ one.
Rogers, you do realise, I hope, that you have needlessly given near-heart attacks to several hundred members.... :-) :-)
I heard whispers that there's a Czech Andrea working in Amsterdam, but I've never been able to find out more. Anyone heard that?
Dave Jamsis
04-24-07, 00:29
REPORT ONE – Sunday, April 15
I arrived in Frankfurt that morning, took a cab to my hotel. I was to encounter a very hectic and busy schedule over the next 5 days where I would be visiting 6 countries for work and not much play. From past posts I learned that Sunday afternoons are
All,
Rats! I just compllied a very long and descriptive report, however it won't post. After I hit 'submit report' and wait about 5 minutes, the screen changes to 'The page cannot be displayed'.
Any comments you can suggest? Report is about 3 pages. Maybe it is too long?
Dave,
Use the <back> button on your browser until you reach the page where you composed your message, click on the input text field, select all, copy, then open a text editor or a word processor like MS Word, paste. OK, now your report is saved for now. Then go to the bottom third of your report, copy it back into the browser and submit. Then do the same for the middle part and then for the top part. Voila, you have three posts.
euro
Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to Adrea/Adrienne of Hungary. Never met the CZ one.
Rogers, my man, you have not lived until you met the real deal. This girl had a huge following. And then one of these dimwits from the RF fell in love with her and blew a gasket. (Long story and better kept somewhat out of the open.) Too bad; she was a pro's pro. I miss her. I know this sounds silly, but she really is THAT good.
Oh well, your post sounded too good to be true.
euro
Hessen Bub
04-24-07, 06:54
Rogers, my man, you have not lived until you met the real deal. This girl had a huge following. And then one of these dimwits from the RF fell in love with her and blew a gasket.
Yes, she was good. Had several good sessions with her, but there's other girls following her footsteps and providing the same or better level of service, it's all a question of chemistry.
And yes, this dumbass that was the reason why she had to move from World should be hanged.
Hessen Bub
Nick The G
04-24-07, 12:35
Rogers, my man, you have not lived until you met the real deal. This girl had a huge following. And then one of these dimwits from the RF fell in love with her and blew a gasket.please don't confuse, this guy never fell in love with Andrea, but with another czech girl! He was never interested in Andrea with regards to feelings.
Anyone can fool himself unlimitedly and confuse FKK-clubs with reality, when liking a prostitute too much or even falling in love with a prostitute.
It happened and surely will happen, again and again and again.
So please, as long as you don't know this guy personally, it's better not to spread any judgements on him put into circulation and magnified intentionally by others.
This whole world seems to be a big game and everything that happens, happens! Most things we don't understand to full extent or at all. Despite this, some things we like, others we don't like. Every adult person is responsible for his/her actions! And the quality of every action we do will echo back and yield certain results, sooner or later, intentionally or unintentionally.
As everyone here will know for sure :-), the "dimwits" and "dumbasses" are always the others!
And yes, this dumbass that was the reason why she had to move from World .......Nice fairy tale! Searching for a scapegoat! This guy did some really foolish things, but he never was the "reason"! He wasn't responsible at all for the working conditions of the girls.
The reason why many girls were asked - directly or indirectly - to leave this club in late summer of 2005 more or less in an hurry I don't need to explain in detail. You know that most of them came from east european countries. And there was a lot of fear that police would show up for a raid.
This "dramatic" case shed some interesting spot light on the working conditions of the women there. And usually girls, their "financial advisors" and club management don't like too much of light there, they prefer to keep everything in the dark or grey.
......should be hanged.Who? We all support this type of business and special business conditions with our money by visiting the clubs and making use of womens bodies, o.k.!
She was a pro's pro. I miss her. I know this sounds silly, but she really is THAT good.True!
Nick The G
04-24-07, 14:14
I was referring to Adrea/Adrienne of Hungary. .... is tan, implants and looks gypsy. She thinks she has a talent for singing but is quite annoying when she does sing. She can F though.Talent or not, I several times enjoyed very much Adriennes singing and dancing to romanian "Manele" music downstairs in the Champagner-Bar at FKK-World last year.
btw: she's got 25 % of gypsy blood in her system.
Hessen Bub
04-25-07, 07:27
Nice fairy tale! Searching for a scapegoat! This guy did some really foolish things, but he never was the "reason"
It wasn't Andrea, he fell in love with, true. But he was the reason why the girls from CZ including Andrea had to leave World, because he drew to much attention from the authorities to the club. I do know some of the background, not the complete story, at least not from a direct source, so it is third party rumors, if you wish.
Back to Adrienne: Saw her at Palace yestersday, she still looks great.
Hessen Bub
Back to Adrienne: Saw her at Palace yestersday, she still looks great.
Hessen Bub
I was at Palace Saturday and Sunday and a decent looking girl with glasses was walking around singing a lot. I don't remember her name or where she is from but I am wondering if that's who you are referring to.
Nick The G
04-26-07, 10:04
... a decent looking girl with glasses was walking around singing a lot. I don't remember her name or where she is from but I am wondering if that's who you are referring to.Adrienne doesn't wear glasses!
Nick The G
04-26-07, 10:48
...But he was the reason why the girls from CZ including Andrea had to leave World, because he drew too much attention from the authorities to the club.1.) He was the reason, police became involved. Because he went to the police and initiated some action and then police showed up at FKK-World to gather information (no raid!). That's true!
2.) Now, if police knocks on your door and asks you some questions, and everything turns out to be o.k., you don't have to hide or run away and leave your working place, house or country, right?
So apparently there must have been some other "reasons"!
The guy was neither "the reason" nor responsible at all for this behaviour of the women in "the system".
I don't know why - in talking about this case - responsibilities are always confused.
Back to Adrienne: ......, she still looks great.Nice to hear! Hope she will return to FKK-World soon, now that the weather is so fine in Germany and mongers enjoy the fantastic out-door facilities there a lot.
But, as her Dollar-tattoo clearly shows, obviously it's the money that counts. Despite the beautiful weather, business during the week is low in Pohlheim.
Hessen Bub
04-26-07, 16:26
2.) Now, if police knocks on your door and asks you some questions, and everything turns out to be o.k., you don't have to hide or run away and leave your working place, house or country, right?
So apparently there must have been some other "reasons"!
We all know that World seems to come around razzias or other events like this much better than other clubs. Whatever the reason may be. And also World has/had much more girls that might be illegal than other clubs, except maybe former Atlantis.
Hessen Bub
Hejasverige
04-29-07, 02:23
Hiya!
I'm going to the Palace in a few days and I wonder if anyone can recommend a girl with big boobs but slim body. Enhanced would be the best.
Many thanks
J
Hessen Bub
04-29-07, 09:34
How about Donna? Slim, young, blonde, big enhanced boobs, lots of tattoos.
Hessen Bub
There is so much information on this forum, I don't if I am adding anything of value here but I shall try.
Went in at 2 PM. 15 girls and 10 guys.
Note: I like girls with tight bodies and a flat stomach. Beautiful face is less important than a beautiful body. If my rating differs from the reader's, that could be the reason.
Jennifer: She is black, good body and said she is half dominican and half Brazilian. She blocked my path (in a nice way) started kissing me and played with my cock. I resisted the urge to go with her right hem but I had a session with her later.
Looks: 8
Attitude:8
Service: 7. DFK, DATY and excellent BBBJ.
I had a stiff drink in the parking lot before entering and that was catching up. I went with Christina from Malaga. She talked my dick into it.
Looks: 5
Attitude:9
Service:9. She had me stand stand against the wall and gave me a fantastic BBBJ
Another Brazillian, older gal with small gut, dark hair and dark skin drove me nuts all the time while I was there. When she approached me and started talking to my dick I said, "I will go with you later" instead of flat out saying NO. The rest of the evening I could not turn my head in her direction without her winking or nodding her head toward the room. I forgot her name
Adella from Romania: Hadd sell.Her attitude changed once we got into the room. I offered to massage her back and I did that for 10 minutes. She wanted more knowing that it was going to be a 30 min session (I made that clear upfront). She wanted more money to put my finger inside her.
Looks: 7
Attitude: 6
Service: 6.
Roxana and Nadia from Poland. They were super nice to me while they were working to sell a threesome. When they realized I am not going for it and were obviously pissed. ( FYI: I did not lead them on and they did not kiss me or play with my dick while they talked to me for 7-10 minutes). I was going to go with Nadia but the changed in attitude kept me from even doing that.
I had to take a break and left at 6: 30 PM and met up with some colleagues for a business dinner in Frankfurt and came back at 9:00 PM. The place is now packed. There were clearly some better looking girls with a few 9s. The best part was that the girls left you alone.
Kittie (sp?) from Hunagary. Best session of the day. Reasonable face, 25 yrs, good body, Friendly and everything is on the menu. I came after 15 minutes and she felt bad for me. She tried to revive me! I tipped her nicely.
Looks:9
Attitude:9
Service:9
Solemn (sp?) Blonde girl from Brazil with a flat stomach and fake boobs.
Looks: 8
Service: 7
Attitude: 8
Rookie observation: Go in the afternoon if you are the shy type and you want the girls to approach you. Go in the evening if you don't mind approaching the girls and you will get better lookers (In my brief experience I also got the best service in the evening.)
Hope this helps.
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Hiya!
I'm going to the Palace in a few days and I wonder if anyone can recommend a girl with big boobs but slim body. Enhanced would be the best.
Many thanks
J
Ahmmm, OK, that doens't narrow it down much. There are several candidates. You chances go way up, since you like "enhanced". Now, if anybody tells you a name, what are you gonna do with it? Just go there, and if you like what you see, buy her time. Whatever her name is ;)
Hejasverige
05-01-07, 00:24
Haha yes I guess it wasn't the brightest question I've alsked, but at least I made my first post in this forum.
Anyway, I'm going to be at the Palace on the 25 of May. Is anyone from here going that day?
It would be nice with some guidance from a veteran. :)
I'm nervous already.
So, if I understood previous threads about COF right, you can make it very pornostyle for 50euro extra? For example, I would like to shoot my load on the face of the girl, then I want her to suck a little and dribble/play with the cum. You know, porno. That's my favourite.
In other words, if I'm lucky, the girl initiate the session by kissing and playing with my dick somewhere in the public area. Then we go to a room and have sex in various positions. Then finish in her face "pornostyle". Cost 100 euro? That's a good deal :)
Can't wait!
Ahmmm, OK, that doens't narrow it down much. There are several candidates. You chances go way up, since you like "enhanced". Now, if anybody tells you a name, what are you gonna do with it? Just go there, and if you like what you see, buy her time. Whatever her name is ;)
Hiya!
I'm going to the Palace in a few days and I wonder if anyone can recommend a girl with big boobs but slim body. Enhanced would be the best.
Many thanks
JIf you're looking for big boobs on a slim body, you can't go wrong with Linda from CHK. Linda is a tall, slim blond (as of early April anyway), with huge (and I mean huge) natural rack. You mentioned favoring enhanced, but I'm sure you'll find Linda to fit the bill if you're looking for big boobs. On my visit, she was the biggest of all the Palace ladies, gives a great BBBJ, and while she is one of the top Palace draws, is very sweet.
On my visit, she was the biggest of all the Palace ladies, gives a great BBBJ, and while she is one of the top Palace draws, is very sweet.
She's very pretty. But I have watched her and she works the crowd like a pro, never stops long enough to chat if you say "not now".. she just keeps moving. There's another girl she tends to walk around with who has a similar body and also from Czech. They both work the guys hard. I wondered if Linda was any good. She's definitely good looking in my book.
Hello,
I have not posted anything for a while, but the time has finally come. Anywhere, I am planning to go back to FRT in a few weeks.
Now, I am wondering if Magda and Daniella from PALACE, Stefi and Claudia from OASE are still around? Or, any recommendations (possibly skinny / athletic blondes)?
Thanks for any info.
T
Hessen Bub
05-01-07, 18:11
There's another girl she tends to walk around with who has a similar body and also from Czech. They both work the guys hard. I wondered if Linda was any good. She's definitely good looking in my book.
The other girl is Frederica. Both are actually from Slovakia, which does not make any difference.
I found Lindas performance poor, but that was during her first 3 days at Palace. But recently a guy I know wasn't very fond of her service too.
Hessen Bub
The other girl is Frederica. Both are actually from Slovakia, which does not make any difference.
I found Lindas performance poor, but that was during her first 3 days at Palace. But recently a guy I know wasn't very fond of her service too.
Hessen Bub
That's the thing, she seems like a conceited girl that knows she's hot and moves on if you're not ready. I'm not saying I blame her but her coldness makes it seem like she really doesn't give a crap so why would a guy expect her to be good in the room? I actually was disappointed that she came across like a cold room worker because I'd really like to have some rapport with her before a session.
That's the thing, she seems like a conceited girl that knows she's hot and moves on if you're not ready. I'm not saying I blame her but her coldness makes it seem like she really doesn't give a crap so why would a guy expect her to be good in the room? I actually was disappointed that she came across like a cold room worker because I'd really like to have some rapport with her before a session.
Linda is quite a good performer. Personally I have never gotten even a hint of an arrogant attitude from her. She is a busy one, but it's just because she is popular, not a processor.
I would second HB's recommendation of Donna. If one clicks with her, then she is a great session, and those tits of hers could be used as floatation devices.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Just to add my two cents on Linda, I would say she is a good session, a technical GFE, club standard. She did not rush the session in any way, and was pretty nice, but I would not say there were sparks flying and although she did her best to please, I was very much aware it was a professional job. I think it is more than a year though since I went with her.
Chivaz
Tratnguyen1
05-02-07, 04:29
Hello gentlemen,
I have a quick short question regarding the fkk palace and or other similar club in Germany. Do the girls smoke in the club lounges, and also Do they smoke when in the room working with customers? I only visited Prague 2x. However, The Czech. Girls do really smoke a lot and everywhere without concerning to customers.
The palace is getting my interest for a visit in the future first ever in Germany.
Thanks
Hello gentlemen,
I have a quick short question regarding the fkk palace and or other similar club in Germany. Do the girls smoke in the club lounges, and also Do they smoke when in the room working with customers? I only visited Prague 2x. However, The Czech. Girls do really smoke a lot and everywhere without concerning to customers.
The palace is getting my interest for a visit in the future first ever in Germany.
Thanks
.. like chimneys.
Yep, its a problem.
I've even had one chick who insisted on smoking while I went down on her. This was at a room at Cocoon. Since it relaxed her, I didn't ask her not to so she was blowing smoke rings as she came.
.. like chimneys.
Yep, its a problem.
Might sound like an odd question but is there a good way ask them to go brush their teeth? I asked a couple girls who were smokers and said they would kiss. I asked if they wouldn't mind brushing their teeth and they look at me like I was being rude.. I just don't smoke and hate the taste of it. Gosh I'm picky aren't I? Back here in the US it can be so hard to get laid by quality that I'd take the same girls with puke on their lips but in these clubs I'm wishing they would brush their teeth just cause I don't like the taste of cigarettes. :)
Hessen Bub
05-02-07, 12:48
Might sound like an odd question but is there a good way ask them to go brush their teeth?
Why don't just offer her a chewing gum? Maybe less offensive and I wouldn't have an issue with telling her that as a non-smoker the taste/smell is a turn-off.
Hessen Bub
which oriface the smoke rings were coming from, Jackyo ?
..
so she was blowing smoke rings as she came.
Dave Jamsis
05-02-07, 12:59
Greetings all.
Sorry for the delay in posting this report, I have had some computer connection problems. Thankfully they are fixed and I can start sharing my wonderful experiences I have had.
I recently just returned home from a business trip to Europe over the past week. I will admit – since I made trip arrangements over three months ago, up until the day I left, I visited this topic post daily. I was very intrigued by information on The Palace. To say my experiences there far exceeded my expectations is an understatement. Two days after returning home, it still feels very surreal and like a dream. I would like to say thank you to all the posters that helped make my first visit like I was a veteran. My gifts in return are two very detailed reports.
REPORT ONE – Sunday, April 15
I arrived in Frankfurt that morning, took a cab to my hotel. I was to encounter a very hectic and busy schedule over the next 5 days where I would be visiting 6 countries for work and not much play. From past posts I learned that Sunday afternoons are typically very laid-back days at The Palace, which is just what I was looking for. What a better way to ward off jet lag and put mind to ease before a busy week. I purposely planned my flights this way – where I would have all day Sunday after I arrived and all day the following Saturday before my trip back home.
On a quick note – Sunday started out well, as when I arrived my hotel in downtown Frankfurt I wanted to have a good workout and run. I did not want to arrive at The Palace until at least 3PM anyways. At any rate, after my workout I went to the hotel sauna (stayed at Sheraton Grand Palace) and what should be before me than four naked women, stretched out in the sauna! Being the stupid American that I am, I entered the sauna wearing my swimsuits completely forgetting the culture of saunas in Germany were coed and nude. I quickly stripped, got a few looks and smiles from the women (most were middle aged but had nice bodies! ) and had a seat. I thought to myself what a nice little preview but of course later would be much better talent.
I called for a taxi around 3PM, after a short ride (18 Euro from downtown) I arrived amid very much excitement and trepidation. As I walked inside, I felt I already knew the layout of the land from my research on this site over the past 90 days. When asked if I needed a tour, I politely declined. Paid the 75 Euro, given my key and proceeded to locker room where I undressed and put on my sandals and towel. You also have the option of a robe. I proceeded to the small safety deposit lockers in the foyer area to lock up my Euros and wallet, and then walked into the main room/bar area where time stood still.
I noticed about 20-25 women and maybe 8 men. It was an absolutely beautiful day outside (30 degrees see) so this really didn’t surprise me with so few guys. What did surprise me is that of the 20-25 women, I would say that 75% were absolutely stunning. There were a few stragglers – about two or three aged Asian woman and a few overweight, but for the most part I was very impressed with the talent for a Sunday afternoon. The woman were all naked, although some wore short little garter belts or other sexy accessories to highlight their features.
I went upstairs to the main bar for a coffee. Was immediately greeted by a tall blonde Romanian woman named Lauria (I think that is how you spell name). She was 19, tall, most incredible eyes. She immediately started to French kiss me passionately, for maybe two or three minutes. We had a small talk, she asked if we wanted to go to a room. I politely declined as I just arrived. She reached under my towel and grabbed on my cock, looked me in the eyes and started kissing me again, then said ‘no problem, I will ask you again later’. Off she went. By that time my coffee was almost cold. I drank it down fast, ordered another. I just realized why they do not serve alcohol which is probably a good thing.
After second coffee I decided to walk around. I hit up the Kino first, empty with the exception of a very attractive Brazilian woman riding the cock of a customer at about 80 km/hr. I went to the far left corner and laid down. Over the next 20 minutes I was greeted by about 10 women, whom all lay up next to me, light kissing, tugging on cock. I politely refused them all, still not yet ready. It was in my plans to stay at the Palace until about 9PM – and really only wanted to have two sessions. I would be returning here the following Saturday for an all-out fuckfest, so with that in mind I really just wanted to take my time and try to meet most or all the woman before I made my first selection. I will say the Kino is a very good place to relax, all the girls that came in were not at all pushy. However with all the flirting I was getting a bit worked up. I thought I would take a quick steam room and shower before I make my fist dream come true.
After steam and shower, I returned to the bar area. I noticed a very cute brunette that just got herself a drink of water behind the counter. Nice long hair, maybe be-cup breasts. Full lips, brown eyes. Ass was very fine – not too small but very fit. I am in love with the female ass (hence and ‘Ass Man’) so this turned me on. No piercing or tattoo’s I can remember. She smiled back at me, downed her drink and came out from around the bar and pretty much attacked me with grabbing my cock, stroking while very deep French kissing. This went on for maybe 10 minutes. I knew that kissing here is expected but I didn’t think like this. I was grabbing her ass, pussy, starting to finger her. She asked if I would like to go to a private room with her, which of course by now I agreed.
Once inside the room we continued our deep kissing for about 10 minutes, then proceeded with sucking her nipples, fingering her pussy and ass, BBBJ, 69 where I greedily performed oral sex on her pussy and ass. She loved having her asshole licked, she pumped her ass into my face and I truly believe she was enjoying it about as much as I was. More BBBJ continued. She slipped a condom on, and we fucked for about 20 minutes. She asked me how I would like to cum, I said I wanted to cum on her nice breasts. She smiled, said she would like to jerk me off that way. We were in missionary position by now, and sure enough when the time came she ripped off that condom and a huge load erupted over her breasts. By this time we have been in the room well over 30 minutes. I then asked her permission if I could give her a nice massage. Her face lit up, smiled, and she laid down as I proceeded to give her a nice massage. We must have been in the room at least 40-45 minutes. 50 Euro, well worth it. Looks were 7-8, service was about a 9. I am sure I will remember her name at some point and will come back on here to report it.
Jumped in the huge Jacuzzi next, noticed that two girls sitting together on a nearby bench were watching me, one walked over and asked me to join them when I finished for a talk. So I did, and found out both wanted to have threesome with me, for 100 Euro. I declined, then one leaded over (I was in the middle) and started kissing the other. Jezus. This was nuts! I still said no thank you. These were not the best looking girls in the place that afternoon, but it was a turn-on watching them kiss inches away from me.
Off to the sauna, steam room, and shower. There is a nice area near the steam room if you want to rest and not be disturbed by the women. I was really tired, wanted to take nap and did so while falling asleep watching cricket on the TV. I must have dozed off for nearly an hour. Woke up, it was close to 7PM. Went out the foyer area to see what was for dinner. Did not look too appetizing, it was some German pasta dish. I did get some bread and salad.
Back in the Kino, enjoyed meeting some more women over the next 30 minutes. Then Lauria shoed back up and cuddled with me. She really made my hot, we started kissing so off to a room we go. She was amazing. We continued to deep kiss for about 10 minutes, then an incredible BBBJ in which I almost came after a few minutes. I then performed oral sex on her, sucking, fingering, you name it. After a steamy 69 session we fucked missionary while we passionately kissed. I could not hold off any more, and exploded inside of her. I can’t say how satisfying it was to shoot a load in her while still kissing like we were. She continued to pump me afterwards. Then she removed the condom, we cuddled and kissed for about 10 more minutes. I told her that I would return on Saturday and would like to visit her again (more on that in next report! ). She assured me she would be here. Paid my 50 Euro. Looks were about a 9, service was a 10.
I was at this point pretty amazed with Palace, or maybe this is FKK clubs in general. Perhaps I am just a little to naïve. I have visited clubs in Switzerland, massage parlors in Mexico and Netherlands. Never ever have I had the experience of such beautiful women deep French kissing and sucking my cock without a condom, and deep kissing them while I fuck them? Talk about some of life’s true pleasures and best-kept secrets.
Cleaned up a bit, noticed by a much larger crowd of women and men. There were several new faces, which included a hot little Romanian brunette named Bianca with an ass to die for. She approached me, but I told her I had to leave but will be back on Saturday, which of course, she said she would be here as well.
I looked at my watch, noticed it was by then almost 9PM and decided to get the hell out of here and back to reality. It would have been very easy to stay another couple of hours, but expecting that I had to make myself leave as I purposely only had 50 Euro left which part of that would be needed for a cab back into the city. Plus I wanted to save all my bullets for the following Saturday.
On the cab ride back to the hotel on that dark but warm night, my thoughts went back to a very amazing first experience, and I already started to anticipate my return 6 days later. Thank you Palace for a wonderful introduction and memories from those 6 short hours that will last a lifetime!
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which oriface the smoke rings were coming from, Jackyo ?
This was with Anja at Cocoon. Blonde, nice bubble butt, German.
I'm down there with my tongue flicking her clit, she's got her eyes closed and in between moans she's taking puffs from her cigarette.
Intermittently she would give me instructions: "Ja! Ja!... Schneller, schneller!.. Finger reinstecken!... "
My kind of girl. She knows what she wants and she's not shy to ask for it.
Interactivity, thats my thing. Passivity is a turn off.
Same reason I like this chick Annabelle in Montreal. She goes on and on: "Qu'est-ce que c'est bon!" and it motivates me to do better.
Once inside the room we continued our deep kissing for about 10 minutes, then proceeded with sucking her nipples, fingering her pussy and ass, BBBJ, 69 where I greedily performed oral sex on her pussy and ass. She loved having her asshole licked, she pumped her ass into my face and I truly believe she was enjoying it about as much as I was. More BBBJ continued. She slipped a condom on, and we fucked for about 20 minutes. She asked me how I would like to cum, I said I wanted to cum on her nice breasts. She smiled, said she would like to jerk me off that way. We were in missionary position by now, and sure enough when the time came she ripped off that condom and a huge load erupted over her breasts. By this time we have been in the room well over 30 minutes. I then asked her permission if I could give her a nice massage. Her face lit up, smiled, and she laid down as I proceeded to give her a nice massage. We must have been in the room at least 40-45 minutes. 50 Euro, well worth it. Looks were 7-8, service was about a 9.
She sounds like a winner. I would like to know her name and country if you remember. I too like Palace. It would really be nice if they had a small outdoor area to cool out in but they don't... FWIW, the area with the steam bath, relax couches and massage rooms is new and a big help to the facilities.
So you were with her in room for almost 45 minutes and came on her but she only charged you a total of 50E? Couldn't she have charged 50+50+50 and been within the the normal billing structure? I thought cumming on them was same CIM?
Hello,
I'm planning my very first visit to the Palace tomorrow afternoon. I'm planning to take the afternoon, arrive around 3pm, enjoy the sites for around 6 hours and come back later in the evening to check out the different atmosphere.
I just wanted to say I really appreciate everyone posting here as I've gathered some great information. I'm a bit nervous about the experience but more excited! Sounds like heaven. I'll let you know more once I get back.
I'm most excited at the possible chance to fulfill my threesome fantasy. Anyone have any recommendations on two girls who would take good care of a newbie and give me a good time? (I prefer blondes with great bodies and nice breasts...who doesn't).
Thank you Jacko for your great (and lengthy) first report. I'm hoping you'll post the second day so I can read it too before going tomorrow.
Hessen Bub
05-03-07, 20:04
I thought cumming on them was same CIM?
This is handled very differently, most women do not charge extra (as long as you don't come onto their face). And most men do not accept to pay extra.
Hessen Bub
Samuraimaster
05-03-07, 20:52
Hi,
I had did a search on the thread and could not find any answer so I post them again:
1. I am an Asian from the Far East, Will Palace refuse entry on me ? Or have you guys seen any asian client around?
2. Does the Palace girls discriminate against Asian man?
3. The payment is by cash to the girls I see here, how is it being done? It seems that they will follow you back to the locker room and the money is paid there after the deed?
4. I know this sounds funny..They are naked, where did they get all the condoms? Example you do it in the open area. Is it possible to carrry your own condom with you in the robe?
This is handled very differently, most women do not charge extra (as long as you don't come onto their face). And most men do not accept to pay extra.
Hessen Bub
You have sessioned quite a lot at Palace haven't you? That's great info. Many times I've foregone extra sessions because I knew I was a little spent and the only thing that would probably work at that point was oral and I figured I would have to either CIM or on her body either of which were 50E extra. But I would have no problem in those instances if pulling out and doing the deed on her hopefully nice tatas were no extra charge. I'll clear it with them in advance but thanks again for the info. There are a lot of well-breasted girls at FKKs especially at Palace.
Dave Jamsis
05-03-07, 21:55
You have sessioned quite a lot at Palace haven't you? That's great info. Many times I've foregone extra sessions because I knew I was a little spent and the only thing that would probably work at that point was oral and I figured I would have to either CIM or on her body either of which were 50E extra. But I would have no problem in those instances if pulling out and doing the deed on her hopefully nice tatas were no extra charge. I'll clear it with them in advance but thanks again for the info. There are a lot of well-breasted girls at FKKs especially at Palace.I don't know why I got received special treatment and longer-than-usual session. Maybe she was attracted to me a bit, maybe not. I do know I WOULD NOT have gotten that same level of service later in the evening. Again- I stress to all of you, if you want more attentive service from the ladies, early afternoon's is by far the best time to visit. More on that in next report.
...1. I am an Asian from the Far East, Will Palace refuse entry on me ? Or have you guys seen any asian client around?No they will not refuse entry and yes, there are a lot of Asian clients.
2. Does the Palace girls discriminate against Asian man?
No
3. The payment is by cash to the girls I see here, how is it being done? It seems that they will follow you back to the locker room and the money is paid there after the deed?
Yes
4. I know this sounds funny..They are naked, where did they get all the condoms? Example you do it in the open area. Is it possible to carrry your own condom with you in the robe?The girls have condoms. They keep them in their purse. As to where they got them, I would guess they bought them :-)
You can bring your own condom if you like, but some girls might object and insist of using theirs (safety issue).
You can bring your own condom if you like, but some girls might object and insist of using theirs (safety issue).
Chivaz is right and this is an important point for me because I bring my own and they are the best I've found for me. The girls by and large have London brand condoms and they stink. Tell them in advance you want to use your condoms "because they are safe and feel better". London are just normal latex condoms, nothing special but a standard among the girls. I've gotten into sessions and girls been adamant to use London and that I should have asked before hand. Also, open them in front of the girls. You can carry them in robe pockets.
Hessen Bub
05-04-07, 06:53
You have sessioned quite a lot at Palace haven't you?
Palace is open now for 3 years and 2 months. I must have had around 150 Palace visits up to now, so I do have sessioned quite a bit there. ;-)
I'll clear it with them in advance but thanks again for the info. There are a lot of well-breasted girls at FKKs especially at Palace.
That's just the way to do it: Talk to the girls!
Hessen Bub
Hi,
I had did a search on the thread and could not find any answer so I post them again:
1. I am an Asian from the Far East, Will Palace refuse entry on me ? Or have you guys seen any asian client around?
2. Does the Palace girls discriminate against Asian man?
You should do fine.
The only issue I'd worry about is being tagged as a newbie and therefore targeted for aggressive marketing, upselling or a scam which would consist of either short timing or over billing or the insidious "running up the clock" routine.
Hessen Bub
05-04-07, 10:21
The only issue I'd worry about is being tagged as a newbie and therefore targeted for aggressive marketing, upselling or a scam which would consist of either short timing or over billing or the insidious "running up the clock" routine.
Which is not an issue of being Asian, Kaukasian, African etc. This can happen to any newbie in any FKK-club. So relax, observe the girls, take your time and don't give in to the first girl approaching you.
Hessen Bub
Which is not an issue of being Asian, Kaukasian, African etc. This can happen to any newbie in any FKK-club. So relax, observe the girls, take your time and don't give in to the first girl approaching you.
Hessen Bub
Any newbie at any club can be victimized this way.
I only brought this up because the dude asking this question is very clearly a newbie and also very clearly foreign (which makes it all the more likely to be a target particularly if he doesn't speak German).
There are ways to reduce the chances of this happening. Advice of this nature is sprinkled all over this forum.
I created a blacklist of women to watch out for at this particular club but have not had a chance to update it lately, unfortunately. I posted it sometime last fall in response to a flurry of bad reviews of specific girls to avoid at this club.
I will be in Paris next week and am wondering if any of you have suggestions for good fkk like spots in Paris, or are there any lives sex show clubs. I have heard there might be a good spot or two near saint-germain in the 6th arrondisement
Thanks
Member #3346
05-06-07, 12:27
hi,
i had did a search on the thread and could not find any answer so i post them again:
1. i am an asian from the far east, will palace refuse entry on me ? or have you guys seen any asian client around?
2. does the palace girls discriminate against asian man?
i'm an asian man who was at palace, oase, and world a few months ago and saw asian guys at each place. the girls won't exactly discriminate, but a few girls told me that a lot of girls don't like asian customers because they get a lot of customers from asia who don't speak english or german which makes it hard to communicate.
at each place, i was tagged as a newbie and was swarmed by romanians when i entered, but thanks to the advice on this forum i came out unrep001hed.
i'm an asian man who was at palace, oase, and world a few months ago and saw asian guys at each place. the girls won't exactly discriminate, but a few girls told me that a lot of girls don't like asian customers because they get a lot of customers from asia who don't speak english or german which makes it hard to communicate.
at each place, i was tagged as a newbie and was swarmed by romanians when i entered, but thanks to the advice on this forum i came out unrep001hed.
sign language and pidgin german or english will work sometimes but it can be frustrating and sometimes the women would much rather avoid the frustration.
this works both ways. if i don't think i'm going to have a an easy time communicating with her, i will pass and look for someone who i can communicate with.
not looking like you belong there immediately does tag you as foreign and most likely a newbie.
one point about the nrw clubs: there is a large japanese community in duesseldorf and the clubs in the area are used to dealing with japanese customers. i've seen them everywhere, most recently in goldentime where they were preyed upon immediately by german blondes.
glad that our advice to you on avoiding pitfalls helped, m3346.
does anyone know how to say: "no, thank you" in romanian? or maybe "i don't speak romanian"? or alternatively "buzz off, chick. i've got my eye on someone else"?
or how about signing her the lyrics from dragostea din tei?
ma-ia-hii
ma-ia-huu
ma-ia-hoo
ma-ia-haha miya-hee
miya-hoo
miya-ho
miya-haha
alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc,
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea.
alo, alo, sunt eu picasso,
ti-am dat beep, si sunt voinic,
dar sa stii nu-ti cer nimic.
vrei sa pleci dar nu ma, nu ma iei,
nu ma, nu ma iei, nu ma, nu ma, nu ma iei.
chipul tau si dragostea din tei,
mi-amintesc de ochii tai.
te sun, sa-ti spun, ce simt acum,
alo, iubirea mea, sunt eu, fericirea.
alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, picasso,
ti-am dat beep, si sunt voinic,
dar sa stii nu-ti cer nimic.
this is the only romanian i know. something about love under a linden tree.
Hessen Bub
05-06-07, 13:54
I don't need to know how to say "No, thank you!" or "Leave me alone!" in Romanian, I can communicate that in German, English oder French, or non-verbal. Much more important:
Saruta ma = Kiss me!
Te iu besc = I love you.
Hessen Bub
I don't need to know how to say "No, thank you!" or "Leave me alone!" in Romanian, I can communicate that in German, English oder French, or non-verbal. Much more important:
Saruta ma = Kiss me!
Te iu besc = I love you.
Hessen Bub
.. in my memory banks for when I do find a Romanian chick I'd like to be with!
Thanks!
I visited Palace on 4/26, my first time at a Frankfurt FKK club. It was around 16:30 when I entered the main lounge and sat at the bar. There were around 15 girls and about the same number of men. This Italian girl named Valentina (or Valencia) came up and started talking to me. She is about 5'4" with her 4-inch hi-heels on. She then leaned forward, started rubbing her hand on my shoulder and positioning her lips right in front of mine. I don't remember if I started sticking my tongue out first but the tip of our tongues touched lightly and briefly for 3 or 4 times. I then rubbed my left hand on on her shoulder, just trying to be friendly as I wasn't all that interested in her. I did not touch her anywhere else and we did not engage in DFK. When she asked if I would like to go into a room with her after a couple of minutes, I politely told her that I needed some time to settle in and may consider going with her later on. She then said that I had to either go in the room with her then or give her 25 Euro because I kissed her. I remembered from reading this forum before my trip to Palace that you're only committed if you let her give you BBBJ. I continued to politely tell her that I needed sometime to think about it but she insisted that all the girls in the club had already seen us kissed and I had to either go in the room with her or give her 25 Euro. On her suggestion, we went and talked to the "boss". She told the boss that I kissed and touched her and I told the boss that I only kissed her after she kissed me first and I just put my hand on her shoulder to be friendly. The boss sided with Valentina and said that I should've asked her to stop and not enjoyed the kissing if I wasn't interested. As I didn't want to make a scene and run the risk of being blacklisted by the girls or ejected from the club, I decided very quickly that I wasn't going to fight the battle and gave her 25 Euro and moved on.
I am wondering if any of you know that's the rule at Palace: kissing means committment? If it is, I think it is just bad business as it would make the customers much more cautious and less willing to "test drive" the girls, which translates to fewer deals made. If there is no such rule, then I would advise my fellow mongers to stear clear of this girl. Note that I did tell her that it was my first visit to Palace but I thought that I didn't act like I was nervous or uneasy in the club.
When you give 25 euro like this you make the Pallace even more unfriendly. We will get a situatin when girls run around and make money for just kissing in all directions. You should not have given her 25 euro!
I visited Palace on 4/26, my first time at a Frankfurt FKK club. It was around 16:30 when I entered the main lounge and sat at the bar. There were around 15 girls and about the same number of men. This Italian girl named Valentina (or Valencia) came up and started talking to me. She is about 5'4" with her 4-inch hi-heels on. She then leaned forward, started rubbing her hand on my shoulder and positioning her lips right in front of mine. I don't remember if I started sticking my tongue out first but the tip of our tongues touched lightly and briefly for 3 or 4 times. I then rubbed my left hand on on her shoulder, just trying to be friendly as I wasn't all that interested in her. I did not touch her anywhere else and we did not engage in DFK. When she asked if I would like to go into a room with her after a couple of minutes, I politely told her that I needed some time to settle in and may consider going with her later on. She then said that I had to either go in the room with her then or give her 25 Euro because I kissed her. I remembered from reading this forum before my trip to Palace that you're only committed if you let her give you BBBJ. I continued to politely tell her that I needed sometime to think about it but she insisted that all the girls in the club had already seen us kissed and I had to either go in the room with her or give her 25 Euro. On her suggestion, we went and talked to the "boss". She told the boss that I kissed and touched her and I told the boss that I only kissed her after she kissed me first and I just put my hand on her shoulder to be friendly. The boss sided with Valentina and said that I should've asked her to stop and not enjoyed the kissing if I wasn't interested. As I didn't want to make a scene and run the risk of being blacklisted by the girls or ejected from the club, I decided very quickly that I wasn't going to fight the battle and gave her 25 Euro and moved on.
I am wondering if any of you know that's the rule at Palace: kissing means committment? If it is, I think it is just bad business as it would make the customers much more cautious and less willing to "test drive" the girls, which translates to fewer deals made. If there is no such rule, then I would advise my fellow mongers to stear clear of this girl. Note that I did tell her that it was my first visit to Palace but I thought that I didn't act like I was nervous or uneasy in the club.
When you give 25 euro like this you make the Pallace even more unfriendly. We will get a situatin when girls run around and make money for just kissing in all directions. You should not have given her 25 euro!Again, I wasn't sure of the rule and the management did side with the girl. I would definitely hold my ground if I knew for sure that it was B.S. When I visited this club the 2nd time about a week later, I witnessed a dispute between a customer and a girl on payment and they called the police. While I was watching the whole thing unfolding, Valentina came up to me and asked if I remembered her and said that is what happen if customer doesn't pay up. I just ignored her and walked away.
Pandaman,
It sounds clear to me that you were taken advantage of. This is exactly what we are talking about when we say not to reveal it is your first time in a club. It is unfortunate, but it does happen, esp. to newbies who don't speak German or those who tend to feel a bit out of their element.
This girl Valentina, I know, for sure, is a bit of a shark. You should have figured this out. Perhaps you also should have made it a bit more emphatic that she initiated this, not you, and that it was not even full on DFK, but just some very superficial activity for a second or two. And that you did in fact terminate the activity by telling her you were not interesed (at the moment) to go to the room. You could have told the management that you wished to discuss the matter privately with them, not in the company of your accurser. Sometimes if your body language suggests you are unsure and unwilling to stand your ground, well...
Anyway, to answer your question head on: No, kissing, even DFK for a short time does NOT represent a committment to go to the room. Therefore, you were taken advantage of and you have legitimate grounds to complain, or even to avoid this club if you feel that bad about it...
This stuff about the police: it is bullshit that they would call in the polizei for something so trivial as a 25E dispute. There must have been alot more to this other incident to get the men in yellow/green involved.
I knew her in passing from a previous visit but talked to her quite a while on my last visit. I am a little surprised to hear she did this because my take on her is that she is a real nice girl that happens to work in the club. She speaks good English and spent a lot of time(by Palace standards) talking to me even though I think she knew I probably was not interested. I liked her a lot as a person but she is a B lister imo and I would not take her unless it was an off night there and I just wanted to give it a shot. She's not ugly, she is just not fine imho. She is not exactly busy either so maybe it was a way for her to grab 25E. I understand Panda's situation though in that he did not want trouble and was not sure what the rules were. Along with that you have Palace's weakass management siding with the girl so what are you going to do?
I think it was a cheap trick to pull for 25E though. I'm going to remember this and make sure a girl doesn't start kissing or that I pull away if she starts.
It is unfortunate, but it does happen, esp. to newbies who don't speak German or those who tend to feel a bit out of their element.
This girl Valentina, I know, for sure, is a bit of a shark. You should have figured this out.
When you give 25 euro like this you make the Pallace even more unfriendly. We will get a situatin when girls run around and make money for just kissing in all directions. You should not have given her 25 euro!
Valentina speaks English well so I am sure this had nothing to do with the communication problem unless you are referring to management not speaking English making Panda unable to make his case. I also don't see how one can figure out a girl is a shark that quick in most cases. We are in sex clubs and girls make advances to seduce. Are we to take the view that only the girls who lay back and wait on a guy are good sessions and true GFEs? Nah, there's no real way around this situation. If all he did was touch tongues with her a little, something that many of us have done with girls who did not consider it a commitment or try to hook us for 25E, then he simply got taken advantage of.
It sounds to me like management heard Panda's side and said he owed 25E. What can he do? He did not volunteer to give her 25E and even tried not to. It's easy to sit on an internet board and say what someone should not have done. But management, presumably the people that run the club and decide if you can stay or not, said he owes the money.
I hate those situations because they really do ruin your balance for a while and make you a little insecure about what's right and wrong in the clubs. Then on your next session or two you're a little off wondering what the scam will be this time and on your way to the locker to get money you just know she's going to tell you it's 50E extra cause you went overtime or something.
I think Palace management sides with the girls because they know they need a lot of girls to be there to attract men. Girls are their lifeblood believe it or not, not us. A girl works there five nights a week, while the average customer is there fewer than five nights a year. Don't forget, the girls pay 75E to walk in too.
What is the downside of telling a girl that you read about her on the internet and she needs to be careful about screwing guys out of money like this? On the one hand it might get around to girls that you read the internet, so what. On the other though it lets them know that guys talk about this stuff and it costs them more money in the long run.
What is the downside of telling a girl that you read about her on the internet and she needs to be careful about screwing guys out of money like this?
FWIW, I wouldn't recommend ever telling a girl at a club or elsewhere that you read about her on the Internet or that you even know what the Internet vis-a-vis Clubs has on it. Why? Just setting up all sorts of problems for yourself and other mongers. The girl can take it any number of ways - usually bad and rarely good. I would suggest that you never say that "it's my first time here, I read about you on the Internet", rather something along the lines of: "No - not my first time here, but it has been awhile since my last visit and I thought that I would drop in again to see if I was going to be happy here." NO club girl needs to know that you are visiting first time or not because of a forum or that you haven't been there before - even if you haven't. ISG and this thread has a number of examples of why you can get into trouble or receive sub-standard service if they do know that it is your first visit. Why give the 'enemy' any more ammunition than necessary? It's a war out there in Clubland - use the information found here to your advantage and enjoy.
Yes, I remember Valentina as one of the (far too many) impossible girls I gave the bum's rush to about a month ago (fuck, that was a shit evening!). She's a complete fraud. I can understand that Pandaman caved in to the pressure, but the fact that the management sided with her, not him, just shows me that this is no longer a serious club, and one I shall not be visiting again in a hurry.
FWIW, I wouldn't recommend ever telling a girl at a club or elsewhere that you read about her on the Internet or that you even know what the Internet vis-a-vis Clubs has on it. Why? Just setting up all sorts of problems for yourself and other mongers. The girl can take it any number of ways - usually bad and rarely good. I would suggest that you never say that "it's my first time here, I read about you on the Internet", rather something along the lines of: "No - not my first time here, but it has been awhile since my last visit and I thought that I would drop in again to see if I was going to be happy here." NO club girl needs to know that you are visiting first time or not because of a forum or that you haven't been there before - even if you haven't. ISG and this thread has a number of examples of why you can get into trouble or receive sub-standard service if they do know that it is your first visit. Why give the 'enemy' any more ammunition than necessary? It's a war out there in Clubland - use the information found here to your advantage and enjoy.
I did not mention anything about the forum as I wanted to make all of my encounters in the club as spontaneous as possible. I will definitely remember the advise to never mention it's my first time in any club in future visits. For sure, I did tell Valentina that I'd been to other clubs in Cologne and I also told the other girls that I travelled to Germany about 6 to 7 times a year and I would continue to stay in Frankfurt for a couple more weeks. This is all to make them think that they will likely see me again soon.
I think you guys are all quite correct that I did not have many options. I came all the way from the U.S. and I wasn't going to spoil the fun for 25E. I think Chicafan is correcct that the management sided with the girl because they do need the girls in the club. And in my case, they had never seen me before and probably thought that a tourist is more dispensible.
It did turn out to be an enjoyable evening after that. I had a nice session with Saskia, a very classy-looking German girl. I'm more attracted to the nice girl type than the wild/trashy type. I also had a very nice session with Kittie, a Hungarian girl with black hair, about 5'6". This girl has great attitude and BBBJ skills and she speaks very good English. I cannot see this girl pulling tricks on anyone, it is just not in her DNA. I highly recommend Kittie.
I think you guys are all quite correct that I did not have many options. I came all the way from the U.S. and I wasn't going to spoil the fun for 25E. I think Chicafan is correcct that the management sided with the girl because they do need the girls in the club. And in my case, they had never seen me before and probably thought that a tourist is more dispensible.
Not quite true. Palace actually has a waiting list of girls who are trying to work there. I know a number of great ladies who have tried to get on the Palace list in the past and where turned away. One in particular who is there now and was quite popular in the other clubs where she worked, had to wait nearly a year before she was able to work at Palace.
Personally I think that the management could be a better judge of character when it comes to hiring, as evidenced by this Valentina story. For those of you who can read German, check out the recent post on the Roemerforum about the "New" Palace web-page. It is a hoot.
Actually, the "New Palace Homepage" report is too good not to share. I hope that Wolf and the others from the RF won't get upset at me for copying it here.
neue homepage palace / palace wird umbenannt!!!
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die geschäftsleitung des palace hat sich entschieden den dienstleistungsgedanken wieder mehr in den mittelpunkt zu rücken, aus diesem grund wurden die "kernatraktivitäten" des geschäftsbereiches (cdls) zu stellungnahmen ihrer "kunden-philosophie" befragt. die zutreffendsten aussagen sollen nun als neue webadressen eine neues informations-zeitalter für die kunden einläuten. daraus abgeleitet soll dann auch der neue name des "formerly known as pthe-palace" entstehen.
die absoluten spitzenplätze -und damit die ersten neuen webadressen bzw. namensgrundlagen- unter denen das frühere the-palace nun erreichbar sein wird, sind:
www.10-minutes-are-enough.com und www.wir-haben-messe-da-geht-nicht-mehr.de
insbesondere letzere domain bekam den zuschlag, da zum äusserungszeitpunkt
- von einer messe nichts spürbar (letzter freitag)
- rel. wenig männer anwesend
- viele cdls anwesend
- zimmer frei waren!!!
ausserdem muss natürlich inhaltlich dem zugehörigen nachsatz: "für so wenig geld (50,-€) arbeite ich garantiert keine halbe stunde" vollstens zugestimmt werden. (den zugehörigen bonus für die "mitarbeiterin des monats" erhält franziska, tschechien, wobei der name nach auskunft der hausdame "falsch" sei. mittellange dunkle haare, pferdeschwanz, hübsches gesicht, schlank aber nicht extrem dünn, mittlerer busen...)
die auswahl fiel dabei nicht leicht, da auch viele andere bewerberinnen sehr kreative vorschläge gemacht haben. wie zb gyulia (oder wie immer sich der name schreibt / hübsche blonde mit kugelförmigen silikon-argumenten) die mit www.ich-schaffe-4-pro-stunde.de nur knapp ausgeschieden ist. oder auch die hübsche schlanke dunkelhaarige aus der gleichen gruppe (viele sommersprossen am körper, seit einiger zeit auch mehr tattoos am rücken) ist nur aus der engeren wahl gefallen, weil ihr motto zu früh eingereicht wurde (vor ca. 1 monat). ansonsten hätte www.ich-musste-das-letzte-mal-solange-blasen-bei-dir.de ganz sicherlich hervorragende erfolgschance gehabt. insbesondere, da VORHER mit ihr besprochen wurde, dass es nur um einen ausgiebigen blowjob geht! allerdings hat sie insofern glück, dass sie an dem mehrfach eingebrachten "über-motto" www.was-interessiert-mich-mein-geschwätz-von-vorhin.de bzw. www.ja-ja-geht-können-wir.de in verbindung mit www.nein-haben-wir-nicht.de oft in verbindung mit www.nix-verstehen.de (kleine süsse blonde brenda, die aus ungarn kommt aber leider keine einzige ungarische stadt kennt!) ebenfalls beteiligt ist. allerdings bekommt sie dort wegen der mehrfachnennung nur 1/30 der prämie.
ebenfalls verworfen wurden alle vorschläge mit baby, schatzi und ähnlichem, da hierbei bei der spä*** ja notwendigen eingabe der domain in den browser, brechreiz nicht gänzlich ausgeschlossen werden konnte. ebenso davon betroffen, sowie auch wg. zu häufiger nennung ausgeschieden ist die domain www.warum-nicht?.de
aus dem bereich sonstiges personal / theke / hausdame wurde der vorschlag www.das-sind-alles-selbständige-damen.de mit der co-domain www.wir-haben-keinen-einfluss.de verworfen, da darin die gutgemeinten "zusatz-tipps"
- schaut euch das ganze halt erst mal an, dann seht ihr ja wer gut ist und wer nicht
- die hübschen sind nicht immer die besten
- wir bekommen schon ab und zu kritik zu hören, dann reagieren wir auch sofort
- und ähnliches hilfreiches.....
nicht untergebracht werden konnten
ALLERDINGS soll hier auch nicht unerwähnt bleiben, dass sich der author dieser kleinen geschichte auch gleich 2 domains sichern musste. aufgrund seiner vorherigen postings waren dies: www.wie-doof-kann-ich-sein.de und www.meine-lernkurve-ist-eine-waagerechte-gerade.de
aus gut unterrichteten rechts-kreisen ist mir gerade zu ohren gekommen, dass es bei den domainreservierungen zu problemen gekommen ist. ebenfalls gut bekannte andere grossclubs haben klage gegen die alleinige nutzung dieser neuen palace-domains eingereicht. tenor der klage ist: ....wir haben schon oft genug bewiesen, dass dies auch auf uns zutrifft, und werden uns auch in zukunft zur sicherung dieser dargestellten ansprüche verpflichten....
die endgültige umsetzung der neuen domains ist nunmehr -insbesondere durch die durchaus begründeten anderen ansprüche- mehr als fraglich. .......schade
PS ein kleiner hinweis noch an die kollegen des forums www.pro-club.de bzw der partnerforen www.pro-cdl.de bzw. www.alles-ist-super.de: diese kleine geschichte kann durchaus als BERICHT interpretiert (entsprechende kreativität vorausgesetzt) werden und muss nicht unbedingt schnell in den tiefen des forums verschwinden.
so zumindest die unbedeutende meinung des verfassers.
Cheers,
Dedalus
.. actually encourage cutting and pasting of their posts so long as there is attribution as to where it came from.
They consider it a form of Werbung.
Not quite true. Palace actually has a waiting list of girls who are trying to work there. I know a number of great ladies who have tried to get on the Palace list in the past and where turned away. One in particular who is there now and was quite popular in the other clubs where she worked, had to wait nearly a year before she was able to work at Palace.
Very interesting, I thought the girls work there by choice and that all they have to do is show up and pay the entrance. There are some mediocre girls at Palace and some that I look at and feel like I wouldn't turn my back on so it surprises me to hear this. As much as I adore some of the talent at Palace, I still wonder how some of the girls make a living. So it surprises me to hear that management is particular especially since some of the girls have such attitudes. What are they basing their entrance requirements on or what's not right with some of the girls on the waiting list that management won't let them in?
I tried to translate the report but it didn't make much sense to me.
Any Thai or other Asian girls working the Palace these days? On my only visit there (about 2 years ago)there was an older Thai girl there in a white lace dress, gorgeous body and superb service and GFE. I may be in the Frankfurt area soon and I think a repeat visit is called for.
Happy mongering!
I wanted to post a follow-up message here after my first visit to The Palace last week on May 4th.
After reading other posts here I decided to arrive in the middle of the afternoon on Friday and was immediately impressed with the building and full of excitement at what I might find inside. I paid my 75 Euro at the door, received a brief explanation of the process and my key to two lockers (one for my clothes and the other, out in the hallway, for my money and smaller items).
I changed, grabbed my towel and proceeded to the bar to get a drink. I was very happy to discover at least 15-20 beautiful women inside. I grabbed a seat at the bar near the Jacuzzi and started taking in the sites. Soon I was approached by a very beautiful blonde (with nicely enhanced breasts) from Russia (I don’t remember her name). We talked briefly and she asked if I’d been there before. I replied it was my first time. She offered to give me a little tour and proceeded to talk me around the entire place to show me what was available. I was interested in possibly getting a room but as I’d just arrived I told her perhaps later. She said OK and left me to explore on my own.
I walked around a little more trying to get my bearings (I got lost a couple of times in the maze of hallways) and was trying to find a nice place to sit and enjoy the view. I decided on a covered area nearby the entrance and grabbed a seat on one of the many couches. I was approached almost immediately by a lovely blonde and her brunette friend. They asked if I might be interested in having both of their company in a room. I was interested (and a threesome is one of my fantasies) but I was attracted more so to the blonde than the brunette. As the brunette was leaving I asked the blonde (Nelly) to stay and proceeded to a room. My first for the afternoon.
Nelly, from Estonia, was a tall blonde with a very nice body and nicely enhanced breasts. I’d say she was a 9/10 in the looks department and about a 7/10 in the service area. We laid down on the bed and proceeded to DFK before she started on a wonderful BBBJ. I started caressing her breasts which I could now tell were enhanced. She was very sensitive and pulled away a couple of times. I was excited about the thought of tasting her and asked if I could DATY. She agreed and proceeded to "69" me as she continued with my BBBJ. Nelly tasted very nice and enjoyed me licking and sucking on her pussy and lips. We continued for almost 15 minutes when I was getting close as it was my first release in days. Nelly wrapped me up and turned around as I was standing on the floor and entered her from behind. She felt wonderful as I pumped into her from behind. Then finishing up with her lying on her back. Very nice for my first experience but not quite as wild as I had hoped. Listing to a girl in a room next door screaming and moaning. Who was SHE I thought? I wanted to find out.
I grabbed another water from the bar (wishing the glasses were bigger as I was so thirsty) and walked around a bit. Looking for another place to sit. I walked by the Kino and took my first look inside. It was empty. I walked back and grabbed a seat in the larger hallway (just outside of the main room) on one of the couches. I was approached by Carmen from Spain who asked if I wanted company. I told her I was planning to relax for awhile and she offered me a massage. I declined as I wanted to see who else was around and caught my eye (at the time I was looking for blondes as I normally prefer them). Luckily for me Carmen came back over to check on me again and asked if I was interested in that massage. I agreed and we went to a room. She gave me a FANTASTIC massage for about 30 minutes. Finishing up by rubbing me down below and I was definitely enjoying it. Carmen was a definite GFE. Such a cutie with a small petite and very tight body. She also had incredible breasts which, although enhanced, were very difficult to tell. Even after lots of caressing, sucking, and nibbling. She also had wonderful nipples which I enjoyed and tasted delicious as I went down on her quite a few times as she was busy enjoying me. I spent two hours with Carmen and enjoyed every single second of it. Even giving her a massage myself for around 15 minutes. She let me slide between her wonderful breasts (Spanish sex is what she called it) before I exploded on her chest. Carmen was BY FAR the best of my three experiences as she was a delight to talk with, a definite hottie (9/10 in the looks department) and 9/10 in the service department too. She was a definite GFE which I truly enjoyed and think she could have gotten into being much naughtier. But I didn’t experience that this time. I’ve had Carmen on my mind since Friday. And am already trying to figure out how I’ll plan my next visit so I might be able to see her again. I’m always believed I’d look back on my experience there with pleasure. But never thought I’d already want to go back again. Especially to see just one girl. Is this fairly common?
I relaxed a little more, visited the Kino and grabbed a seat outside where a stunning petite girl (from Frankfurt) with long platinum blonde hair caught my eye. She looked over and winked. But I wasn’t ready just yet. Later that night I approached her and talked a bit. Before asking (I’m not able to remember her name) to join me in a room. She was a 9/10 in the looks department but about a 7/10 in the service department. She said she was bored and upon entering the room let me know she was not into kissing. Although she allowed me to kiss her in the lips a couple of times. She proceeded to give me a nice BBBJ as I laid next to her admiring her tight, lean and tanned (all over) body. I asked if I could touch her and she agreed but only on the outside. No penetration with my finger. After about 5 minutes she wrapped me and I entered her slowly from behind. I enjoyed that for a little while but she didn’t really seem all that into it. I asked if she would turn over and we tried it missionary with her placing one leg on my shoulder and later the second. I found this position to be very hot as I was pumping into her looking down at her incredibly hot & sexy body when I finished after enjoying my third time for the afternoon.
I went to take my last shower around 2130 after spending around 7 hours at the Palace. I showered and grabbed my re-entrance pass at the door before leaving as I wanted to keep the option of returning later than evening open. I didn’t make it back that night but am already thinking about my next trip.
General Information:
I was approached throughout my time there by various girls from Romania. Every girl I talked with spoke at least a little English and we had no problems communicating the basics like out names, where we were from, etc. I wasn’t shy about telling the girls it was my first time in the club. Although next time I might change my tactic a bit and let them know I live here locally vs. Telling them I’m on vacation.
All-in-all I had a really nice time but found it impossible to find some of the recommended girls from the other listings here. I went in looking for Linda, Lauria, Nikki, Nina? , Saskia and Vicky. (I saw some very good recommendations from others who’ve posted here). I was a bit disappointed to not have seen or spoken with any of them (at least I don’t think any of them were there. But I didn’t speak to every girl in the club either). I thought about asking another girl or someone who worked there to introduce me to Linda or one of the other girls but thought I better not. Anyone ever asked someone for a specific girl there before? I also thought about asking one of the other guys there. But thought it might not be a good idea either.
I was looking to find someone really wild to "rock my world" but was really happy and satisfied with the girls I found there myself and on my own. Next time it would be interesting to go with someone who’s been a few times as I’d enjoy hearing an opinion first hand about the girls.
I really appreciate all of the excellent information posted here by others and found it to be very helpful in navigating my first FKK experience. I also highly recommend following others advice and making a trip during the afternoon as the atmosphere was much more relaxed and the girls accommodating. As opposed to when I left later that evening. I could tell things were becoming much more crowded and the competition increasing. I also noticed there was a very high number of girls present (as compared with some of the other listings here) which I later found might have had something to do with the Frankfurt Messe (fair)?
This is a MUST DO and SEE experience for anyone interested in such things. I had a great time even being new and going by myself. Highly recommended!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Hessen Bub
05-08-07, 20:35
No Asian girls at Palace today.
Hessen Bub
I note on a few other FKK forums, the topic is rest areas. On previous trips to Palace, I had not located steam area-quiet lounge area. This is a great oasis to nap, rest, get a massage, steam and in general, re-charge the batterys. This was mentioned in a Palace post a few weeks ago, also in Reports of Distinction. Will post trip report in a few days. Thus far, Palace has been king.
S. Trato
Some days ago I also had the pleasure to get to know the Palace.
It's really a nice place but my impression was that the girls are going to much for the extras. Which means additional 50.- eur and more.
The first girl wanted even 150.- from me which I rejected. In the end I paid her 100.- without knowing exactly which was the extra. With the second one I agreed from the beginning 100.- to avoid discussions afterwards.
I know I could have gone to the reception desk to talk about that, but in the end for what!
But you leave a bit with the thought that in other FKK clubs I've visited the service is better.
Hessen Bub
05-09-07, 15:38
Common extras are CIM or Come-on-face (50 EUR), maybe Come-on-body (50 EUR, which I do not pay which means I will not come on her body) and anal (50 to 150 EUR). OK, 30 additional minutes mean 50 EUR plus. But please do not pay anything for kissing, putting a finger into one of her orifices or for lesbo-shows or for crap like that. Take her to the front desk! And that happens at all clubs, including World, Oase, GT.
Hessen Bub
Common extras are CIM or Come-on-face (50 EUR), maybe Come-on-body (50 EUR, which I do not pay which means I will not come on her body) and anal (50 to 150 EUR). OK, 30 additional minutes mean 50 EUR plus. But please do not pay anything for kissing, putting a finger into one of her orifices or for lesbo-shows or for crap like that. Take her to the front desk! And that happens at all clubs, including World, Oase, GT.
Hessen Bub
Wait Bub, earlier you said:
This is handled very differently, most women do not charge extra (as long as you don't come onto their face). And most men do not accept to pay extra.
Hessen Bub
I am confused. In your experience do most women likely expect to be paid if you come on their tits or not? If it's something you do not do because they will charge extra then it sounds like it is considered normal to pay for.
Dave Jamsis
05-09-07, 21:15
Palace Day 2
Here is my much-overdue report from my April 22 visit to The Palace in Frankfurt, Germany.
As my flight touched ground in Frankfurt the morning of Saturday, April 22, my heart started racing with excitement once again. After a very busy work week traveling throughout much of Europe, I was ready to unwind with a full day on my own before flying back to the USA the next day. What a better place to reflect on my stay than at The Palace. Plus I was a bit hungover from Salsa dancing the previous night in Brussels.
This would be my second visit to The Palace in six days. I had previously submitted my virgin report from my experience that took place April 15th, the day I arrived in Europe. Needless to say I was very satisfied during my first visit which explains why I was so excited for my return trip. I look back remembering my travels during the week where I had the opportunity to visit such places as The Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland and Italy. I would notice all the attractive women out and about – whether it be at airports, railway stations, or just walking down the street-thinking to myself in just a few more days I would be having very satisfying sexual relationship with women of the same quality or better, in the comfort of the a magnificent ambience that can only be described as a slice of heaven.
Back to the report. I took the train to main station. If you are very cheap you can save about 12 EU, and the trip takes maybe 10 minutes. The real reason I took the train is because there is a great Cigar shop at the station where you can purchase Cuban cigars at non-tourist inflated prices. Once I made my purchase I went outside, into an awaiting cab and off Flemings Hotel where I would be spending the night. Cab fare was a measly 15 EU, traffic was light as it was another beautiful day in Frankfurt. At first I was a bit pissed off as Lufthansa managed to lose my luggage on the short flight from Brussels to Frankfurt. I had to stay at the airport and extra hour arranging to have the luggage sent directly to my Indiana home once they have recovered it. At any rate the more I thought of it the better off I was – I didn’t need any clothes at the place where I was heading today as a towel would be my wardrobe for the next several hours.
I checked into the Flemings Hotel, and I must say this is a very nice place and I highly recommend it. Exceptionally friendly staff, rooms are large and very clean. My room rate was 91 EU. I was a bit hungry so decided to have lunch at the hotel restaurant out on the front deck. Gentlemen – this may have been my best meal of the entire week, considering all the places I have been I really do mean this. Excellent cuisine and service. The beer on tap was excellent, and the wait staff, like the hotel, very friendly and attentive to your needs. I must say having lunch, sitting on the deck with the warm sun shining down on me was a real treat, even better topped off a Cohiba Siglo IV cigar. Life is good and I was anticipating on how much better it was going to get that afternoon and into the evening.
I got cleaned up a bit, and walked across the street to The Palace. I will reiterate how convenient Flemings Hotel is to our little magical place. It is right next door. If you exit from the rear of the hotel, it stares you right in the face. I checked in around 3PM, and was very happy to see the conditions were very similar, if not identical, to my Sunday afternoon visit six days earlier. 20-25 women and around 10 guys. Some very incredible talent, and most of them women were lounging around taking to one another and flirting with the men. I was primed and ready, very horny, so went to the Kino to relax. No sooner than two or three minutes I was greeted by a 26-year old woman from Ukraine. Tall, blonde, be-cub breasts, great ass. Great smile, very friendly and her name was Romona. She immediately lay right on top of me and started kissing me very passionately while stroking my cock, which lasted for at least 10 minutes. We then talked for a while, and then I gave her a nice massage, kissing her all over. After about another 10 minutes she started a very soft and sensual BBBJ. I realized this was the first time in my life I was having sexual affairs with a woman while others were present, and it did excite me to some level. We must have been fooling around for over half an hour and she still didn’t ask to go to a room. While we could have continued in the kino I really wanted to private room with her, so off we went. Once in the room we continued to engage in heavy foreplay and deep kissing, 69, oral sex and licking her ass. She then slipped on a condom and we fucked missionary for quite some time, continuing to kiss. The room we were in was very hot and we started to sweat a lot, which did bother the concentration. We then switched to doggy style. After some time, I wanted her to jack me off with a hand job. She sat on my face, my tongue deep in her ass as she jacked a very significant amount of cum from me. We cleaned up, laid in bed for a while, kissed. Looked at my watch (it pays to wear your watch gents) and noticed we were in the room almost 45 minutes. Paid my 50 Euro, kissed a bit more at the lockers, and that was session #1. I would rate her looks as 8-9 and service was a 10.
Off to the sauna. I was a bit worried as the orgasm I had was so intense I was unsure how may more bullets I could knock off by the end of the day. I originally planned for at least 5 sessions that day. Needless to say I was limp as you can get, wishing I invested in some Viagra from which I understand a majority of the male customers do to help prolong and increase the value of their experiences.
Around 5:30PM the crowd started to grow quite a bit. Dinner was served promptly at 6. It was somewhat funny, as right when dinner was serviced the entire main room pretty much emptied to a long line at the buffet table. I was still very full from my fantastic lunch at Flemings, so I decided to retreat to the main bar for a coffee. Soon enough I was greeted by Olympia, from Romania. I remembered her from previous posts in this forum. She had the looks of a 12 on a scale of 1-10. She could have been a Playboy centerfold model. Without question probably one of the top 2 or 3 women I have EVER met in my life, and yet she could be having sex with me if I wanted. This is the type of woman that fully clothed on a cold winter day would garner plenty of looks. Large natural breasts, full lips, ass to die for. Sure enough, she was pretty much all about business. I flirted a bit, just wanted to hang out and talk awhile as incredible as she was I just was not ready for my next session. Therefore she was very disappointed in me when she asked if we wanted a room and I politely declined. I then understood the reasoning how the better looking the woman, the less inclined they usually are to be more fun to hang out with. Olympia is all business, and with the amount of makeup she was wearing I could immediately tell the experience with her would probably not be worth it. Strange enough, as the evening wore on I noticed that Olympia was not that busy with customers, as she appeared to be more into herself.
I was approached by a few other girls, however some time later I retreated back to the Kino to rest as I can’t stress enough this is the best place to hang out, as I believe the women that monger in the Kino to find customers probably give the best service. They key is patience. After all, you can relax watching a giant screen of porn (lesbian was the specialty that night) and have several of the girls flirt with you. I hooked up with a nice cute Romanian with long dark hair. She was 19 years old. Sorry, forget the name once again. Cute young face, full lips. A-cub breasts which was fine with me as she had a great ass. We started kissing then hurried off to a nearby room, she was a little more pushy but I sensed that the experience would be very good. Which it was. I thought about changing the format a bit. I asked her to masturbate for me for a few minutes, which she did. I can’t tell you how exciting to watch her finger herself with her right hand as she rubbed her nipples with the left hand. She slid to fingers in her pussy, and then put them in her mouth. At this point I sure was not limp any more. We engaged in a 69 where a hot, slow BBBJ took place while I licked her every hole inside and out. We then had great sex, missionary while DFKing. I am not sure if all the women let you deep kiss them while fucking them, but this is the best treat of all. She finished me off with handjob per my request. Afterwards we kissed a bit more. We were in the room about 35-40 minutes. Great service from a great gal. Looks 7, service is 10. 50 Euro well spent.
Back at the bar, I met up with Bianca. Those of you that have been at the Palace probably remember her if you have seen her before. Romanian, short black hair, very pretty face, be-cub breasts and a nice small round ass that sticks out like you wouldn’t believe. I just had to have that ass. We flirted for a bit, light kissing, off to a room we go. I noticed she brought her phone with her. She said she was expecting a call from her father, and if he calls to be quiet! That was interesting. Anyways, the service with her was average – some DFK but not as much as I wanted to. She is very beautiful so I really didn’t expect top notch service like the previous two encounters I had thus far in the evening. The BBBJ was average. To be honest as hot as she was I went limp on her – mostly because the first two sessions that day really wiped me out and she just did not perform to wake my little guy up. We tried to have sex but I just wasn’t hard enough. The hell with that I said. If I cam not going to get off, she is. I told her this and she laughed. She laid down, and I performed oral sex on her for a good 20 minutes. Spending most of my time licking her from behind while she had that incredible ass of hers perched up in the air. We finished up, maybe in the room exactly 30 minutes. She ‘thanked me’ and that was that. 50 Euro, looks were a 10, service was about a 4-5.
Before I continue I wanted to share with some ‘tips’ I learned to help make my experience all the more worthwhile which I would like to pass on to you my friends.
*Never tell the girls that it is ‘my first time here’. I suspect some scams could exist to take advantage of customers that come in all starry-eyed like a kid in a candy store. If you research this site enough, and visit The Palace website, after a little homework you will get the lay of the land where you will be comfortable enough on your first visit like you are a regular.
*Bring a toothbrush/tooth paste with you, so you can brush your teeth between sessions. Especially since you will be performing a lot of oral sex and kissing with multiple women throughout the day if you have multiple sessions. You will feel more fresh, plus the ladies will notice how nice it is you have good breath and will enhance your changes of more intimate service.
*Bring a little bit of cologne/aftershave for the same reasons above. Again, sounds a little silly but I am telling you if you can find a way to bring more attention to yourself you will not be disappointed.
*Wear a watch. You will be glad you did
*Be as respectful and kind to all the woman you come in contact with. Open the door for them when you go to a room. When you are finished ask to give them a light massage. Try to be different.
The only downside I found to my experiences is a preference thing. I like women with hairy and/or trim pussies. Not ‘get out the bushwacker’ hairy – just nice trim patch of hair. All the women at The Palace are shaved bare. I have always said that no two hairy pussies are alike. You can’t say the same for shaved pubic areas on a woman. They look alike and taste alike! Also – I found most of the rooms a little too warm. Heavy sweat during sex is a little bit of a turnoff to me. Again, maybe not others, but I just wanted to share some personal observations.
Around 9M the Palace became quite crowded, I would estimate the men to woman ratio was around 1:1. One thing I noticed is that some of the more beautiful woman (10’s or higher on a scale of 1-10) were mostly alone, such as Olympia, not interacting much with potential clients. I now understand completely that these girls probably don’t give good service, as they have an arrogant attitude and no not make much effort of soliciting men for rooms.
I sat down on a small couch downstairs in front of the main bar. I was in the mood to relax for awhile, and people watch. At some point across me sat a somewhat attractive lady from Spain looked at me, spread her legs and started masturbating in the open! I just smiled. She quickly hooked up with an older guy, but it was still quite a spectacle to watch.
Around 10:00 I was pretty exhausted, I thought it is time to finish my stay and find Lorena to finish me off with CIM. I looked for her most of the night, as it turns out she is in demand – and with the mind-blowing session I had with her the previous Sunday I could understand. There were so many women (at least 50-60) I had to do a little scavenger hunt. I figured I would wait by the bar in the lobby near the lockers. Sure enough, some time later she escorted a man to the locker for payment. On her way to the dressing room she noticed me, she smiled, and said do not go anywhere she will be right back. After about 10 minutes, she returned, grabbed my hand without asking and headed off to a room. At that time there were several people waiting for rooms – however she said come with me, she knows a nice place. We hit up a small tent-style bed that is pretty hidden from everything. It is back behind the main bar, in a corner. The bed has curtains that fold down for a little privacy. Originally I wanted to spend an hour with her, but she quoted me 175 EU for that. I was a bit surprised but again she was all business. We agreed on 100 EU for 30 min, and CIM. I must say it was the most mind blowing BBBJ I have ever had. I really wanted to just kiss her for a while, have her blow me and call it a night. So we DFK for a little bit, then she got down to business. It took just 15 minutes and she gulped down ever last drop. She then gargled with some mouthwash (I noticed the bottle she had was nearly empty – so she was busy tonight), sprayed her mouth with some type of spray, and then said "okay, all finished’. I noticed that we have only been in the room for 20 minutes, but I was not going to argue. Before I could regain my composure she was already outside the tent bed ready to escort me to locker for payment.
When I left around 11PM I would estimate it was 2:1 guys to girls. I noticed that the women were not making rounds to attract customers and almost no flirting was going on, with the exception of some couch action taking place for those waiting for rooms. I could see, that unless you are a regular customer who visits often and is well known, that you have to seek out the girl, and since it is all business like I suspect that the level of service would be down a few notches that what you can experience in early or late afternoon. At that time I decided it is perfect situation for me to get the hell out of there and back to reality. As I left the Palace I noticed maybe 10-12 taxi’s in the parking lot. So if you ever visit The Palace no need to call a taxi to pick you up – they are already there.
In all it was an awesome experience. I must say I have spend $100’s of dollars at US strip clubs in one evening, and not so much to have the girl sit on my lap. I have visited clubs in Switzerland and in Amsterdam. The service does not even hold a match as most BBBJ’s are covered, no kissing, no personal attention. A trip to The Palace is a trip to Heaven. There are few pleasures left in life these days, and this is one of them. This kind of activity enhances emotional health, as you really feel good about yourself with the most beautiful women in the world catering to you like a king.
I just learned that I will be back in Europe in October and am already counting the days. While part of me might want to try a FKK club other than The Palace, it will be very difficult for me to switch loyalties as my experience over these two days in April was nothing short of a life-changing event.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Somethings
05-09-07, 22:44
Hi!
I'm contemplating my first trip to palace next Wednesday evening. The only problem is that I can't get there until late. About 1am (although remember that Thursday next week after is a holiday).
I've read that it's less busy after 1ish, but does that mean less guys, or less girls, or both? What I'm worried about I suppose is that all the best girls get tired out and leave earlier. I'm a bit of a stickler for quality so I'm not so keen to get there after all the best ones have left.
I have to head south the day after so my only other option would be a few hours at flamingo island late on Thursday afternoon (say 4 to7).
What d'you reckon?
I am confused. In your experience do most women likely expect to be paid if you come on their tits or not? If it's something you do not do because they will charge extra then it sounds like it is considered normal to pay for.
The practice regarding "Körperbesamung" or coming on a gal's body was, in the good ole' days, not something that was considered a chargeable extra in most places. That is, provided one did not ejaculate in a girl's face, as this was/is considered close enough to CIM for jazz.
Those days seem to be over in many places and the practice varies from club to club and from girl to girl. Given that the sharks at Palace consider breathing during a session a 50 EUR extra, one can safely assume that the average worker at Palace will soak her mark for that service. Quite a few girls at Oase and World will do this and not considered it a payable extra, but these days one cannot assume this going in.
One other thing to note; a lesbo show in the context of a threesome does have extra costs attached to it. At GT for example, a 30 minute threesome of the non-lesbo variety will cost a Gent 100 EUR (50 for each girl). That same session with Lesbo activity will cost 150 (75 for each girl). I have not done a threesome at any of the Frankfurt clubs since the days when M & M reigned supreme, but even back then I was informed that lesbo was extra.
Also, I concur that HB is right when he says that gals soak Johns at World, Oase and GT. However I would bet dollars to donuts that more "extras misunderstandings" take place at Palace in one week than all of the aforementioned clubs combined. The post from the Roemerforum is hilariously funny, yet tragically apt.
Cheers,
Dedalus
First I would like to thank everybody in the Forum for letting me know and experience the FKK world. I started my FKK career last Sunday 6 May at 2pm and as soon as I entered the Palace, I knew everything going around and I was very confident after following the forum for the last few months!
Everything was going reasonably fine for a newbie like me who don't have much of mongering experience. I had my first session with Irina from Venzuela and I was apporached by plenty of girls who many of them french kissed and fondled and I played with them.
After my first session, I went to Kino to rest a while. I was approached by a petite girl from Poland who asked to be paid after I told her that I am resting. I managed to reject that. 2 minutes later, a French-Morrocan girl sat beside me and starting the same thing and she insisted that we go to management and said that we kissed and I should have told her earlier that I don't need a session and that nothing here is free. I tried explaining to management that I told the girl several times that I am resting, but managemnet just sided with the girl. I Had to pay the E25 and continue the night.
So I guess that girls are applying this attack policy on non regular customers and we have to take action.
I then had another session with a very beuatiful Myriam from Romania, but service was rushed. I saw Linda and spotted her and will try her next time.
I will be heading again on Friday night and we will see what happens.
I owe you guys some reports for my first and second visit.
Later
Laura. A thin, tan Romanian with longish blonde hair, B-cups, and a slightly hooked nose. She is one of the Romanians who give Romanians their bad reputation: wanting to upsell and wanting to hurry the session. Her BJ was mostly a HJ with teeth.
After being fleeced by Laura over the weekend, I found several reports on her, all bad. My experience was similar to Alex P Keaton's.
She seemed friendly enough and was a great French kisser outside the room. The first thing she did in the room was give a 5 second BJ. Yes, 5 seconds. Looking back on the situation, I think she did this so she could demand payment if I were to walk out once she started her spiel. First she asked if I wanted to stay an hour, then if I wanted CIM, then if I wanted anal. Then she asked again, and then again. Once she accepted that I wasn't going to agree to any extras, she put on a condom. On literally the second stroke, she starts moaning. Loud. Very loud. Bad porno loud. Suffice to say, there won't be a repeat from me but the best was yet to come. As we went to the locker to get the money, she told me with a straight face, 30 minutes is 100 Euros. Several hours later, after Yulia had restored my faith in womankind, Laura walked up to me and re-introduced herself. She asked me my name. I told her it hadn't changed recently. She gave me a curious look and went off looking for her next victim.
In several years, I have had 2 occasions to talk to management. Neither time had they sided against me. It sounded like here: a girl refusing to take no and then insisting on getting paid.
I have had several other girls SUGGEST that it be taken to management, and I simply refused and continued resting and then they went away.
It doesn't sound good if management is now siding with the girl with no cause. Especially since it very much sounds like the "usual suspects." Palace's star continues to fade.
Mark
Hessen Bub
05-10-07, 09:29
If it's something you do not do because they will charge extra then it sounds like it is considered normal to pay for.
Quite easy: Officially you will not find it in the "extra-list" of the club. But some girls try to sell it as an extra, which I do not discuss with them. I do ask them in advance and if they do want extra money, I will not give them my come.
Hessen Bub
Hessen Bub
05-10-07, 09:57
After being fleeced by Laura over the weekend, I found several reports on her, all bad.
Ups. I've had two great sessions with Laura. Both one hour, CIM, 150 EUR, standard pricing. Her blow-job is fantastic, she likes to kiss (deep french kissing), love to be licked and I bet she came, at least she tasted and reacted like it.
I tried explaining to management that I told the girl several times that I am resting, but managemnet just sided with the girl. I Had to pay the E25 and continue the night.
No girl ever tried that on me and I would never have paid. Why should I? If girls get to know that this works, they will repeat doing it. Best thing to do, if a girl tries this on you: Tell her to leave and that you will not go with her immediatly.
One other thing to note; a lesbo show in the context of a threesome does have extra costs attached to it. At GT for example, a 30 minute threesome of the non-lesbo variety will cost a Gent 100 EUR (50 for each girl). That same session with Lesbo activity will cost 150 (75 for each girl). I have not done a threesome at any of the Frankfurt clubs since the days when M & M reigned supreme, but even back then I was informed that lesbo was extra.
Lesbo show is a classic, it was at Atlantis already. I tell the girls in advance that I will not pay for their fun, that they can do with each other what they like, but I will pay 50 EUR each with no extras involved. Period. And I've had some quite good threesomes in the last months, at Oase, Palace, World.
However I would bet dollars to donuts that more "extras misunderstandings" take place at Palace in one week than all of the aforementioned clubs combined. The post from the Roemerforum is hilariously funny, yet tragically apt.
I do not share that opinion. In Roemerforum there is a very hostile mood against Palace, which I can't share. Palace has the best line-up of girls, at least for my "Beuteschema".
Hessen Bub
One thing I noticed is that some of the more beautiful woman (10’s or higher on a scale of 1-10) were mostly alone, such as Olympia, not interacting much with potential clients. I now understand completely that these girls probably don’t give good service, as they have an arrogant attitude and no not make much effort of soliciting men for rooms.
I can't speak for Olympia specifically but women such as these are called Optikficks: they look great but because of their service-orientation (or lack of it), they aren't booked much.
Nice to look at but no substance.
Sit, watch and observe first before pouncing. If she's stunning, very available but hardly booked its because her services aren't that good.
I do not share that opinion. In Roemerforum there is a very hostile mood against Palace, which I can't share. Palace has the best line-up of girls, at least for my "Beuteschema".
Hessen Bub
I agree with Hessen Bub, and I also do NOT share Dedalus' opinion. But as Dedalus has freely admitted to me, he is distinctly anti-Palace and, like the RF guys, there is sometimes a bit of exageration when slagging off this club. Many RF (i.e. German guys) are so irate that Palace raised their Eintritt Preis by a whopping 10E. Personally I think the scams at Palace could happen just as easily as at any club, it just depends on how YOU select and how YOU behave in these situations. Granted there may be some problems with the Palace management (or lack thereof) siding with girls over newbie guests, but I still think the line-up at Palace is generally tops. And if you are experienced and know your way around the FKK landscape and rules book, then you can do very well at Palace, just like in any other club.
So Dedalus, don't slag off the place too much...hey, maybe you want to meet me there during my next visit? I'll pay your extra tenner to get in, okay? Love to introduce you to some of the girls there...
Ortos
Nick The G
05-10-07, 16:34
..... and I was apporached by plenty of girls who many of them french kissed and fondled and I played with them.In my experience so far in my life, it always has taken two persons to kiss! You were involved in this "french kissing" kissing too? :-)
My impression is, that you completely forgot where you were! Palace is a brothel, an expensive playground for men! And the working place for many women. For sure all the girls are working there only to earn money.
Especially for you as a newbie to the FKK-Club scene, please wake up!
As long, as the girls are not familiar with you for sure almost nothing will be for free! Over time this may change, because when you come to the place more often or because you go to the room several times with the same women.
Why should they do it, give you something more than words, smiles, gentle body contact or a little kiss for free? It's business, business, business!
If you want to kiss intensively (french kissing), get a blow job or fuck in a PaySex environment, be prepared to pay for it, this belongs to the girls core business!
... I was approached by a petite girl from Poland who asked to be paid after I told her that I am resting. You describe yourself as a victim (of her game). I don't believe you! I'm pretty sure you forgot to mention something important here...!
2 minutes later, a French-Morrocan girl sat beside me and starting the same thing and she insisted that we go to management and said that we kissed and I should have told her earlier that I don't need a session and that nothing here is free. I tried explaining to management that I told the girl several times that I am resting, but managemnet just sided with the girl. I Had to pay the E25 and continue the night.for me it sounds as if YOU started the same thing again boy...
If you want to rest, rest, don't kiss or try to disturb women at work!
If you want to play with women without wanting to pay anything, play your games outside, o.k.
But why do it in a brothel? You want to find out, if you're considered by *****s to be a smart guy? You need this?
Because you visited them at their working p(a)lace, for sure you will end up entangled in "their game" and you have to pay!
IMHO, in your case the management took a wise decision.
You poor victim you! :-)
Nick The G
05-10-07, 16:52
...... Many RF (i.e. German guys) are so irate that Palace raised their Eintritt Preis by a whopping 10E. .......
So Dedalus, don't slag off the place too much...hey, maybe you want to meet me there during my next visit? I'll pay your extra tenner to get in, okay? Love to introduce you to some of the girls there...In the RF, they are not talking about 10 Euro difference only.
E.g., compared to FKK-World for the frequent club visitor it is a difference between 23 to 31 Euro (price reduced "VIP-cards" for 5 or 10 visits, "3 for 2" days)!
IMHO something that many RF people don't like about the Palace (and Oase) is: no official bonus system at all for frequent customers. And on top of this came the 10 Euro increase for the Palace gate since beginning of 2007. This has nothing to do with the (quality of the) girls who work there!
People who visit Frankurt once for fairs/exhibitions or only 2 or 3 times alltogether in one year don't mind this 10 Euro difference.
There are many guys who consider themselves frequent visitors and visit FKK-clubs up to more than a hundred times a year!
Two women I know quite well working at Palace told me, for them and many other women working there it is much more important to build up/have a good business relationsship with frequent clients ("Stammkunden"). Both women cannot understand that there is so much talk in the internet about bad habits of "girls in Palace". Quite a few women working there are proud - and well known - to offer a good service.
I can see why some people don't like Palace and what feels like attitude or a rip off atmosphere. Along with that the club itself can be dark and maybe a little depressing. If you have been to a place like GT or PHG and paide 50E for all the beer, good coffee and whatever else you like you realize it's very difficult to get your money's worth out of Palace. At GT or PHG the help rushes to give you service. At Palace the dipchits behind the bar act like they don't see your or could care less.
Like I have said before, if I am management I side with the girls if it's a tie because they are there every night paying 75E. I am still a little surprised at the idea that there are high quality, attractive girls on the waiting list considering how lame quite a few of the girls there are.
Let me take this moment to mention a Dominican named Patricia. She calls herself a Panamanian but I doubt it. She is AWFUL. I could not stand the session and wanted to tell her how bad she was. If I see her again and she approaches me I will. I don't like to be mean but when a girl is intentionally bad it's fair game.
I have had situations with girls at both GT and PHG trying to scam extra money from me. It happens everywhere.
Ok, having said all that, I really like Palace. I get bored in there sometimes because it's all indoor and I think the bar is pretty lame in what it offers. There's just not much to do or no change of environments inside. But somehow I always leave(so far) after a couple nights thinking it's some of the best, even if brief, sex I've ever had and the girls stick in my mind as being incredibly sexy. Yup, I've had a couple mediocre or poor sessions there. But I've had them at World, PHG and GT too.
I think I learned a little trick last time. It seems like common sense now but if they ask how much time I want I will say it's up to them and how much I like being with them. I've always tried to make it clear that I want a good 30 minute session. I think some agree but could care less. I'll still manage the session to 30 minutes usually but at least they will likely be working instead of shutting down 20 minutes into it. That's what Patricia did and she was an awful 30 minutes. They realize you won't likely repeat anyway so they won't work hard for the 30 minutes.
So Dedalus, don't slag off the place too much...hey, maybe you want to meet me there during my next visit? I'll pay your extra tenner to get in, okay? Love to introduce you to some of the girls there...
Ortos
Kind offer, my friend. But I prefer to spend my time chatting up the ladies, rather then having to argue with the managemnet and sharks over poor business practices.
I looked in on the place not long ago. With all due respect to HB and yourself, (both respected Gents, with valuable opinions) I stand by my assessment of the joint. And I think that the Roemers are NOT simply being bitchy Germans. Quality and service is off. The place ain't what it use to be and there does seem to be a domineering shark and scam mentality in most of the girls. Factor in management's "Wir haben kein Einfluss." mentality and I've got no use for the place. Best wishes to those of you who are patient enough to look for a diamond in the VERY rough.
BTW, Ortos; I am hoping that one of these days you will be able to accept my statement that it is NOT about the extra 10 fish on the entrance fee. However it has everything to do with finding the best line-up for my hard earned Euro.
Cheers,
Dedalus
NormanBrightside
05-10-07, 21:21
Let me take this moment to mention a Dominican named Patricia. She calls herself a Panamanian but I doubt it. She is AWFUL. I could not stand the session and wanted to tell her how bad she was. If I see her again and she approaches me I will. I don't like to be mean but when a girl is intentionally bad it's fair game.
Interesting I know that she get's a lot of bad reports. I had a pretty good session with her a year back, ended up taking her number and saw her a few times outside Palace for free. Wasn't exactly girlfriend and boyfriend but became a little like that so I ended it (plus to be honest the sex was ok but nothing special). Have seen her every time I've been back to Palace (but no sessions) which is kind of awkward but I guess an occupational hazard. The weirdest thing however is that I ended up having a session with her sister who also works there from time to time. I didn't realize at the time but saw a very cute Dominica who seemed kind of familiar. I couldn't place her face but as she seemed to recognise me I went to talk to her and ended up having a session. It was only afterwards when she started dropping hints about Lisa that it dawned on me that I recognised her from a photo Lisa had shown me. This was later confirmed to me by Lisa. She didn't seem to mind as I guess it's really only about money at the end of the day in the Palace. Just goes to show that the FKK's can be a strange and parallel universe.
Kind offer, my friend. But I prefer to spend my time chatting up the ladies, rather then having to argue with the managemnet and sharks over poor business practices.
I looked in on the place not long ago. With all due respect to HB and yourself, (both respected Gents, with valuable opinions) I stand by my assessment of the joint. And I think that the Roemers are NOT simply being bitchy Germans. Quality and service is off. The place ain't what it use to be and there does seem to be a domineering shark and scam mentality in most of the girls. Factor in management's "Wir haben kein Einfluss." mentality and I've got no use for the place. Best wishes to those of you who are patient enough to look for a diamond in the VERY rough.
BTW, Ortos; I am hoping that one of these days you will be able to accept my statement that it is NOT about the extra 10 fish on the entrance fee. However it has everything to do with finding the best line-up for my hard earned Euro.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Well, dear friend, this is the only time I can remember where you actually stated the 10E increase was NOT a factor in your distinctly hostile (and possibly exagerated) stance against Palace. So one of those days has just arrived. If you say, the 10E is suddenly a non-factor, well, a salute, Don Corleone... and your last sentence about "finding the best line-up" for the Euro is one of the reasons I frequent Palace over other clubs...although I would add: your own recent comments about BHH has me quite inclined to revisit my favourite old club soon...
Oh and I highly doubt an experienced monger like you, Dedalus, would spend more time arguing at the front desk than he would flirting with the girls...you and many others would be able to pick out the bad apples from this barrel, just like all the other clubs. Each place has it's pluses and minus, but for me, Palaces +s out its negatives...I love this club! But, I admit, that all the RF guys might be "right" and I and a few other "eccentrics" might be way out on a limb...
Now Nick the G makes some good points about the lack of the bonus system, etc., and he does show the local perspective. But that is just what it is: a view from the local fishbowl. Now I and alot of other guys here, may not visit Palace or any other FKK more than 100x per annum. However I probably visit Palace, say, 20-odd times a year (only!!??). Now that is frequent enough to be noticed as a demi-Stamgast, ja? We still invest enough time and Eintritt Euros to see the place from a semi-local perspective too. And still for all it's flaws, I feel distinctly positive about Palace, not hostile towards it. I love this place...and all FKKs for that matter. Just love some more than others...at different times
Ortos
Kind offer, my friend. But I prefer to spend my time chatting up the ladies, rather then having to argue with the managemnet and sharks over poor business practices.
I looked in on the place not long ago. With all due respect to HB and yourself, (both respected Gents, with valuable opinions) I stand by my assessment of the joint. And I think that the Roemers are NOT simply being bitchy Germans. Quality and service is off. The place ain't what it use to be and there does seem to be a domineering shark and scam mentality in most of the girls. Factor in management's "Wir haben kein Einfluss." mentality and I've got no use for the place. Best wishes to those of you who are patient enough to look for a diamond in the VERY rough.
BTW, Ortos; I am hoping that one of these days you will be able to accept my statement that it is NOT about the extra 10 fish on the entrance fee. However it has everything to do with finding the best line-up for my hard earned Euro.
Cheers,
DedalusHave to agree with the fact that the Palace has gone" down the nick" I first visited two or three years ago and thought it was the best place ever,then I went through a stage of going to Oase,the last few times in Europe,I have been to PHG and GT,and although the girls are not naked they seem much nicer and are certainly hotter,next week I intend to go to Ying Yang,to see what all the fuss is about, and considering I will be operating from Hahn this is a bit out of the way,but the last few visits to the Frankfurt clubs,has how can I put it,left me disappointed.
hope someone finds my views of interest.
Viscount.
You describe yourself as a victim (of her game). I don't believe you! I'm pretty sure you forgot to mention something important here...!
for me it sounds as if YOU started the same thing again boy...
If you want to rest, rest, don't kiss or try to disturb women at work!
If you want to play with women without wanting to pay anything, play your games outside, o.k.
But why do it in a brothel? You want to find out, if you're considered by *****s to be a smart guy? You need this?
Because you visited them at their working p(a)lace, for sure you will end up entangled in "their game" and you have to pay!
IMHO, in your case the management took a wise decision.
You poor victim you! :-)Without passing judgement on Rexon's situation (I was not there and don't know what actually transpired), Nick the G actually brought up something interesting. I think it is possible that the Management would side with the girls simply because they know that some customers do take advantage of the girls from time to time. And if you are a new face, they will probably not give you the benefit of the doubt.
At the end of the evening when I was leaving the club, the same manager that Valentina and I talked to earlier in the day was at the front desk and she was nice and asked me how everything was. I don't know if she actually remembered me and tried to smooth things over after realizing she made a mistake from observing me and my mannerism during the course of the evening or that she was just being courteous to her customers. As I mentioned earlier, it did turn out to be a nice evening for me and I was feeling good and planning on returning in a few days. So, it didn't even occur to me to take advantage of the opportunity to explain my situation to her again. I would the next time this occurs to me again though as I would like to give the management a chance to run their club in a more customer-friendly manner.
I'm sorry that my initial report evoked or brought back so much negative feelings/emotions against some of the girls and the club itself. Let's return to talking about the nice experiences and beautiful girls and start feeling good again! Attitude is everything.
One more question: How do you all feel about tipping the girls for great services? On my second visit to Palace a week later, I had another great session with Kittie. She was licking my little Panda right up till 4am, the time when Palace closes. I had to stop her to tell her that it was 4am. She was just such a sweetie that I spontaneously tipped her 20 US dollar on top of the 50E I paid her (I was running low on Euro). I am afraid that the practice of tipping the girls may eventually evolve into some kind of entitlement.
One more question: How do you all feel about tipping the girls for great services? On my second visit to Palace a week later, I had another great session with Kittie. She was licking my little Panda right up till 4am, the time when Palace closes. I had to stop her to tell her that it was 4am. She was just such a sweetie that I spontaneously tipped her 20 US dollar on top of the 50E I paid her (I was running low on Euro). I am afraid that the practice of tipping the girls may eventually evolve into some kind of entitlement.
... you will know that tipping is not recommended.
Yes, it will evolve into a form of entitlement.
If you were particularly pleased book extra time with her or ask for extra services.
Do not... repeat: do not tip! Do not rock the boat!
Its a slippery slope which none of us will be able to crawl out of.
If you were particularly pleased book extra time with her or ask for extra services.
Good advice often given by the regulars of this forum but, hey, the guy said that it was 4am and the place was closing.... How can he book extra time or ask for extra services then? ;)
Good advice often given by the regulars of this forum but, hey, the guy said that it was 4am and the place was closing.... How can he book extra time or ask for extra services then? ;)
How about bringing her a token gift the next time you see her? A box of Schokolade, z. B.
Its a slippery slope. Don't grease it unnecessarily.
How about bringing her a token gift the next time you see her? A box of Schokolade, z. B.
Its a slippery slope. Don't grease it unnecessarily.Yeah, it was my last day at Frankfurt and I will not be back for at least a few more months. I actually may not even see this girl ever again if it is a temporary job for her. But I'll take the advice!
Hejasverige
05-12-07, 00:01
Hello chaps!
I'm going to Frankfurt soon and spending a few minutes per day to do some research. I want to be prepared and know as many do's and don'ts as possible.
I'm coming over from Sweden to "relax" for a few days and just try out the facilities in Frankfurt :) My first question is:
Does anyone know if the Palace is open every day? I don't wanna travel all the way and find out it's closed for refurbishment or anything like that :/
Which condom brand do they use at the Palace? I went to a brothel in London once and they had some kind of strange condom model that didn't fit my not so big weener. Damn, that was embarrassing.
Btw, have you seen this clip from Artemis, haha that little blondie...omg...
http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.html
Does anyone know if the Palace is open every day? I don't wanna travel all the way and find out it's closed for refurbishment or anything like that :/
Which condom brand do they use at the Palace?
As far as I know Palace is open every day.
They use London brand condoms. My opinion is they are awful. Bring your favorite and clear it with the girl in advance. I've had them refuse mine because I didn't clear it up front.
Hejasverige
05-12-07, 03:26
Omg, I hope it's not the same brand the London brothel used.
Durex, euroglider and condomi is perfect for my size. The UK brands I'm aware of are Trojan and Mates.
I will bring a packet of my own and see what happen.
As far as I know Palace is open every day.
They use London brand condoms. My opinion is they are awful. Bring your favorite and clear it with the girl in advance. I've had them refuse mine because I didn't clear it up front.
Yeah, it was my last day at Frankfurt and I will not be back for at least a few more months. I actually may not even see this girl ever again if it is a temporary job for her. But I'll take the advice!
.. I've mailed her stuff from overseas after the fact.
I simply address it to her care of the club.
When I return, I go find her and it guarantees that she remembers me and we take off from where we left off.
Last week I visited the Palace for the first time in my life. By this I mean, not only was it the first time in F.am.M, it was the first time I visited a German FKK club. It was a funny and enjoyable experience, but one thing that really surprised me (and upon re-reading some of the postings here I see that maybe it shouldn't have...) was the incredible diversity in quality between providers. The hostess at the entrance who took my 90 euros even tried to warn me - or guard herself against future complaints - telling me in passing "when you pick a girl, do remember to ask her what services are included".
I went there around lunchtime, which apparently quite a few local businessmen do as well for it was packed with both girls and punters. I took my time and did a bit of sauna and jacuzzi before getting around to the action. Unlike similar clubs in other countries the girls are apparently not allowed to follow you into the water or the sauna; they only hawk around the bar and in the cinema.
In the end I went to the bar, ordered a softdrink and smiled to a hourglass-shaped woman in her mid-twenties who promptly joined me. She turned out to be from Brazil (or so she said) and offered me a standard half hour for 50 euros. I liked the look of her big bust and rounded hips and so accepted. This was a mistake. As soon as we were in our room she told me flatly "if you pay 100 euros I can stay for an hour and make it real nice for you". Huh? I was sortof planning to pay extra for premium services, but under the circumstances I was not going to: giving in to this kind of pressure rarely produces anything other than additional demands. I told her, no, just 1/2 hour - let's get on with it. After about 8 minutes BJ (uncovered to give her her due) she let me come on top of her, but with her hand between her legs to prevent deep penetration. As I found this a bit offputting I asked her to ride me instead, which she did - with all signs of annoyance and making a maximum effort to avoid touching me. When in the end I protested mildly, she exploded: "So much work for 50 euros! Who do you think you are?" I replied mildly that I'm the guy who just paid for half an hour and we've spent less than fifteen minutes here, but... "you want good service, you pay extra!" My response: "we're not discussing price here..." at which point she interrupted with rising hysteria "Oh YES, we ARE!". OK, what can one say? Apparently the "half hour" does not mean 30 minutes, but is rather a shorthand for basic service. How basic is left for the girl to decide. I may also suspect that my "Brazilian cutie" despises the clients more than most working girls: as I later noticed she spent most of her time in the club canoodling the other women.
After this experience I almost gave up, but in the end went into the cinema where they were showing one of these silly films about male strippers and a female audience misbehaving. Two couples were making an exhibitionist stunt on the floor which was quite funny to watch. Before I realised it I was joined by a young girl who looked Korean but later told me that she's from Kazakhstan. Would I like her to join me? I still felt a bit bruised and was about to say no when the threw herself on me and started to administer French kisses and lick my face. Wow, what a change from the first provider who'd probably have scratched out my eyes if I'd tried to kiss her! It took me about 20 seconds to get "excited" and 2 minutes to decide that this was an opportunity not to be missed. She took me to a room and I forced myself not to offer her extra money: now I wanted to see for comparison how much she was willing to work for a standard fare. A lot, it turned out. She continued kissing and caressing and allowed me to insert my fingers anywhere I liked (another no-no with the first girl), then progressed to a very enthousiastic uncovered 69. When I finally came on top of her I only had the stamina of a herring left. She moved her lower body frantically back and forth and made all the inciting noises she could think of; unsurprisingly I exploded inside her after a couple of minutes. I tipped her generously and told her I'd DEFINITELY be back....
...and I will. I'll be back to her, and back to FKK Palace. But I have learned to pick carefully - even at this "upmarket" place which I would previously have thought maintain certain minimum standards.
I tipped her generously and told her I'd DEFINITELY be back....
If the girls here are spoiled, its because some of the customers (not all of them but some of them) spoil them. This only raises their expectations.
Mostly its the tourists who do the tipping so guess what: if you come across as a tourist, you are targeted for the aggressive upsell.
That first Brazilian chick you had probably started out innocently in the profession and then she came to understand the psychology of the upsell. Now look at her: she provides bare minimum services and you have to give in to her upsell so she puts in an effort.
The way to avoid rocking the boat is not to tip but to ask for extra time or for extra services. Or bring a small token gift the next time you return.
Hessen Bub
05-15-07, 12:13
Before I realised it I was joined by a young girl who looked Korean but later told me that she's from Kazakhstan.
Dinara?
Hessen Bub
Regarding the report by Priamos, I copy the following line
Quote-The hostess at the entrance who took my 90 euros even tried to warn me. Or guard herself against future complaints-
Whats this 90 euros, it is 75 euros for entry, confirm
Thanks
Riquelme10
05-15-07, 12:44
I am going to Frankfurt in June for 2 days so that I can enjoy myself. Does anyone know what the entrance fee for both FKK OASE and PALACE are? Are there any hotels around so that I can stay?
Is Palace newer and cleaner than OASE? Which is best nowadays?
The hostess at the entrance who took my 90 euros.....
Have I missed something?
Hessen Bub
05-15-07, 15:43
Have I missed something?
No, you've not. Entrance is still at 75 EUR.
And they are putting little hotel safes with a number pad for your individual combination into each locker.
Hessen Bub
No, you've not. Entrance is still at 75 EUR.
And they are putting little hotel safes with a number pad for your individual combination into each locker.
Hessen Bub
Bub, that's a nice thing but why would they do that? The small lockers outside work just fine and are in plain site. Have there been problems? Now they're spending money to install safes in the lockers?
Bub, that's a nice thing but why would they do that? The small lockers outside work just fine and are in plain site. Have there been problems? Now they're spending money to install safes in the lockers?At the beginning of the year there were some theft issues.
I hope that Priamos just got the entrance fee incorrect. It would be a shame if the ladies at the reception are taking after the other girls and getting into the fleecing act.
Cheers,
Dedalus
At the beginning of the year there were some theft issues.
I heard about the theft issues but thought I heard it was that theft was on inside lockers and that the small ones outside by the reception desk were installed as a result. Although, I've been going to Palace since December and the small wallet lockers have been there since then.
Hessen Bub
05-15-07, 18:27
There must be some misunderstanding about the entrance fee as there is a big sign on the front desk saying 75 EUR.
@Chicafan: The small lockers outside have been there since the opening 3 years ago, they just swapped place with the towels. And the theft issue was about the small lockers outside. Should be history now.
Hessen Bub
First of all, sorry for the confusion: I simply couldn't remember what entrance fee I had paid and thought of it as "close to 100".
Dinara?Now you mention it. I think she called herself "Dina" which could be shorthand for Dinara.
Mostly its the tourists who do the tipping so guess what: if you come across as a tourist, you are targeted for the aggressive upsell.
Wait a minute. Turist bin ich wohl schon, aber die Auslaenderinnen waehren es kaum faehig festzustellen, dass ich kein Deutscher bin! (Translation: "A tourist I may be, but the foreign girls would hardly be able to tell me from a German".) Also, when I say "generously" please don't overinterpret it: I gave her a couple of tenners, that's all. I'm willing to pay a bit of "Trinkgeld" AFTERWARDS in recognition of a good service. Any attempt to extract extra cash as a precondition for anything will be firmly rejected.
Penn Teller
05-15-07, 21:08
…..continued from general info thread
day 1
our flight was delayed by 3 hours, but we arrived in frankfurt at 11 am. got the rental car sorted, a mercedes c 180. at least driving in germany is similar to at home, and we had a real blast on the autobahns hitting speeds of near 200kph (about 120 mph) on occasion over the week, but isn’t the gas expensive! we eventually got to the flemings hotel beside palace around 1 pm. we had booked a nice twin room for 3 nights. our plan was to try and sleep for a few hours before hitting the palace, but once in bed we were so nervous and excited we couldn’t sleep. so teller suggested that we go now, get the pass out later and then sleep.
once outside the front door of palace we were so nervous that we had to pace up and down to get the courage to go in. we couldn’t get the courage, so we decided to walk around the block to try and relaxed. we walked around for about 10 minutes, and then teller suggested that we go to the bar in the hotel and have a few whiskeys to calm ourselves. i was so nervous that i could have done with a valium. now neither of us drinks hardly at all, and whenever we do it is usually just beer or wine, but we downed 2 neat whiskeys each and then walked fast to the door of the palace.
i guess it was around 2 pm, when we walked in. the lady at the desk was friendly and she gave us the tour after we paid her. man i nearly fainted when i saw all those naked girls, i couldn’t believe it was real. so we changed and showered, and put our money in the little lockers. then we slowly walked around, i guess there were maybe 20 women and 10-15 customers at that point. we went into the kino, and saw a guy getting a blowjob only a few feet from us. the girl that was doing it was a totally hot blonde, with big breasts and a great tan. wow. i walked around to look at her ass, and you could see her asshole and pussy clear as day even in the slightly darkened room. i’ll say it again. wow!
then we went and sat at the bar, and got two cokes. we were there like 3 minutes when a girl approached each of us, and sat down. they were both romanian i think.
the one i had was only about 20, but she had amazing erect breasts with big brown nipples. tellers had very small breasts, and a similar face, maybe they were sisters.
now we knew from reading here, that you should take your time making your selection, but when as nervous as we were, that is difficult. we really were not thinking straight and i think the girls had figured that. after about 1 minute of chit chat, my girl put her hand up my towel and started stroking my cock. i thought i was gonna pass out from shock, and then she asked me to go to the room.
i was shaking from nerves walking to the room, but getting pleasure looking at the girl’s ass as she walked in front of me. sensing my nerves she told me to lie down on the bed, and that she would take of me. i lay down and felt my cock retract and get smaller with nerves. i looked down and it was like i had just climbed out of a very cold pool. then she leaned over and gave me a playful peck on the nose, before giving me a deep kiss on the mouth. i was concerned about all the cocks that she sucks everyday but then i felt myself starting to relax, and i started rubbing her body. she moved her way down and kissed my nipples and belly before going for my cock that was now getting bigger. my first blowjob was amazing, different from what i thought it would be. i had been wondering how fast i would cum, because when i jerk off i cum very quickly sometimes. well i came after about 3 or 4 minutes, and into her mouth. i lay there thinking, “well finally i’ve had my first blow job.” she lay beside me stroking my chest, and she laughed when i told her it was my first time. she said she delighted to be my first. she then asked me if i wanted to fuck her, and i decided that my first ever fuck would be that blonde that was giving the guy the bj in the kino. we left and i paid her €100, 50 for the bj and 50 for the cim. i know some of you guys probably think i paid too much but it was my first time, and i got shrewder as the week went on.
i went for a shower and then went to look for teller, and he was nowhere to be found. the horny little dude, he then resurfaced after over an hour. he greeted me with a “im no longer a virgin dude”. turns out he spent 1.5 hours with this girl, and they fucked twice. he even licked her pussy twice! he paid her €200. we know it was too much.
we went to chill out in the sauna/pool for a while, and then back to the kino to check out more public sex, all the while girls were constantly approaching us. man i wish real life were like that.
i then saw that hot blonde from the kino earlier. when she caught me looking at her, she beckoned me over to her. her name was elena i think, and from russia. she said she was new too, having only been a few days in the palace. i decided i would do what teller did, and take her for a long time. money was no object for my first time sex. she delighted when i told her i wanted her for 2 hours. she took me over to a big sofa, and we started off just making out like two high school kids. we made out for nearly an hour before going to a room. in the room i really let go and got horny. i fingered her, and rubbed her asshole. i sucked her big tits, and i fucked her. first in the missionary position where i came after about 5 minutes. i then fucked her a second time in various positions and made it last a lot longer. she also blew me twice.
i walked into that room a virgin and walked out a man! turns out i spent almost 2 ½ hours with her. she charged me €200, which i thought, was very fair.
i found teller making out with a small brunette, and then he disappeared for an hour.
it was dinnertime when he returned, and he now had been with 4 women total, the horny little bastard!!! we had the buffet dinner, and it was pretty good. i had two big helpings. after dinner we just chilled out for a few hours, hung out in the kino checking out the guys getting blows, and back in the pool and sauna. there were some really hot chicks there for the evening shift. i liked the way the place turned into a sort of disco club in the evening with lower lighting and louder music.
in the evening i took two more women for an hour each, as did teller. both were pretty good, i paid mine €150 each. too much i know, but i really wanted the best i could get. by mid night we decided to call it a day, and hit the hotel. i thought it was awesome even if it cost me around €700. teller being the clever little man that he is, had 6 women and actually only spent about the same.
day 2:
we both slept for over 10 hours, and decided to just chill out. i wasn’t ready for more sex, and i just wanted to spend the day digesting all i had yesterday. we left the car and caught the train into frankfurt, cruised the rld for most of the day but didn’t actually do any women there. our legs were really sore from walking up and down all those stairs. there are some stunning women in the red light district but many ugly ones too. we also had a long lunch, and an even longer dinner in a really good italian restaurant. that night we had a few beers in the hotel, and had a good laugh at how nervous we had been the day before.
continued in fkk oase thread….
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Wait a minute... Turist bin ich wohl schon, aber die Auslaenderinnen waehren es kaum faehig festzustellen, dass ich kein Deutscher bin! (Translation: "A tourist I may be, but the foreign girls would hardly be able to tell me from a German".) Also, when I say "generously" please don't overinterpret it: I gave her a couple of tenners, that's all. I'm willing to pay a bit of "Trinkgeld" AFTERWARDS in recognition of a good service. Any attempt to extract extra cash as a precondition for anything will be firmly rejected.You make an extemely schoen punkt when you point out that a good % of the girls in these FKKs are speaking German worse than some of us Touristen, and they have no idea you are a non-German if you are speaking passable conversational German. I agree entirely, unless the girl is a home-grown German, if you speak German to her, she will just put you into the default category of local German-speaking and German-living male guest at an FKK.
About the Trinkgeld thing, well, there I think you are distinguishing yourself as a real newbie. Sorry for saying so, but we all began our FKK experiences with the impulse to tip, the gesture of over-paying at the pay lockers, just a little bit, with a smile on our face to the girl. But this is like over-swinging in tennis: the ball will usually go out. Or like introducing a foreign speciies fo fish to a very long-established and pond ecosystem: it ends up polluting or corrupting the environment. As you grow more experienced witht he FKK scene and the ins and outs of playing the girl line-ups to the hilt, fishing for GFEs, you will also find numerous ways to get your message across to a given FKK girl WITHOUT tipping. Believe us when we say, as nicely as possible, that the culture of tipping (passing a couple of small notes extra over at the pay lockers) is NOT part of the native FKK cluture. Jackyo has it right there...be patient and find other ways to show your appreciation, but in the meantime, don't tip...
Ortos
Wait a minute... Turist bin ich wohl schon, aber die Auslaenderinnen waehren es kaum faehig festzustellen, dass ich kein Deutscher bin! (Translation: "A tourist I may be, but the foreign girls would hardly be able to tell me from a German".) Also, when I say "generously" please don't overinterpret it: I gave her a couple of tenners, that's all. I'm willing to pay a bit of "Trinkgeld" AFTERWARDS in recognition of a good service. Any attempt to extract extra cash as a precondition for anything will be firmly rejected.
Hello Priamos,
Please don't take this as a "flame" as some have taken to calling it. But the tipping theme has been written about and discussed often enough on this and other boards. It may be well meaning, but it drives the locals and the regulars crazy as it kinda ruins the standard of service and the price structure. BTW, German skills are not a guarantee that you won't get fleeced. I have seen a number of cats die lupenreines Deutsch gesprochen haben who got sandbagged.
Jackyo is right. There are so many ways to show your appreciation to a girl that keep the scene here in Germany honest. My standard way is to book longer sessions. That is my way of tipping. There are several gals at GT who I always book for one to two hours. At Oase right now, there are at least four girls who I spend at least an hour with. It is fair to the girl, it still encourages good service and the price structure is not negatively effected.
Also tipping does not mean that you are going to get better service. Actually it may help you develop a reputation as an easy mark. When I go into clubs I do not often get approached by the sharks and "hit and run" gals because they know I am a waste of time for them. That is my reputation. Most of the gals that are good providers and fit my, as HB calls it "Beuteschema" are the ones who I can chat with and will get my business.
A few sawbucks may seem insignificant to you, but I think that this is one of the reasons (not the only and certainly not the main) that overall service in the German FKK scene is quite a bit off from what it was two to three years ago. I am all for rewarding the girls, but tourists who tip have gradually thrown a monkey wrench into this whole plan.
Respectfully,
Dedalus
Well I finally had the chance to venture to the Palace and after many years of mongering I have experienced a new one with this. First I want to thank all the fellows here for thier input which was a great help and of course Jackson. I took the train and got there like if it was my tenth time. I arrived around 4ish and was amazed but the layout. I took my time and looked around. After about 20 minutes in the kino and rejected a few potentials I was approached by a hard bodied romanian girl. We went to the room and as explained here I took a look at my watch before the deed. Iwas treated like royalty. After I went to the bar and hung out till two of my paisans arrived and we talked for a while and checking out the girls who came in and out from the locker room. It gives you an idea how the Romans felt when they did thier orgies. Really cool. One girl was a TOFTT. A Dominican who kept upselling in the room and nagging for more money. I got up in mid deed and comenced to put my robe on in dead silence. She asked if she was gonna get paid and I said come and find out. I went to the locker room where she started to scream while I was inside. I came out and threw the 50 Euros on the floor and told her to get lost. I went to the Madam and explained what happened and she said not to worry. After that every time she went by us I kept saying out loud this one is worthless and an hour later she got dressed and left. Money don't mean crap to me but I not just gonna stay with my arms crossed. After I ventured 3 more times and left around 2am. I really had a great time and took advantage of the buffet twice. Since they don't sell beer there I took an hour and had a few at Fleming's. The ATM near the fitness center was kaput so I had to go to the other side of the tracks to an ATM. It's a walk but not too far. I hope I get to go again. FKK are one of the best items around.
Be safe!
One girl was a TOFTT. A Dominican who kept upselling in the room and nagging for more money. I got up in mid deed and comenced to put my robe on in dead silence. She asked if she was gonna get paid and I said come and find out. I went to the locker room where she started to scream while I was inside. I came out and threw the 50 Euros on the floor and told her to get lost. I went to the Madam and explained what happened and she said not to worry. After that every time she went by us I kept saying out loud this one is worthless and an hour later she got dressed and left.
Do you remember her name Sabor? I mentioned earlier a girl named Patricia, tall, hard body, fake tits, who calls herself a Panamanian but is actually a Dominican. She was horrible in the room. I don't like any of the Latinas at Palace.
Also tipping does not mean that you are going to get better service. Actually it may help you develop a reputation as an easy mark. When I go into clubs I do not often get approached by the sharks and "hit and run" gals because they know I am a waste of time for them. That is my reputation.
My, oh my... Dedalus and Priamos - two Greek heros in one place. ;-) I suppose it could be true what you say. I also sortof painted myself into a corner in the Chinese scene of Paris (where I live) because of my habit of paying a bit extra for a good service. Very quickly I acquired a reputation for being a big spender and the price I had previously payed for premium services became the floor that any provider was willing to accept. I suppose that's also about female psychology: they'd feel demoted if they accepted less than they knew their girlfriends had already obtained.
Thanks for the advice anyway, because whether or not to be a bit generous is so country specific. In a similar discussion on the Thailand thread I got criticised for not being generous enough. To obtain a good service (in BKK) one should apparently spend freely and treat a pro like a pampered girlfriend - rather the opposite of what you recommend. I do, however, disagree with you on one point: I don't think the drop in quality and/or hike in prices over the last years (which we have also seen in other countries, incidentally) is mainly about spoilage. I think it reflects a more general drop in the supply of providers from eastern Europe.
Priamos, I believe Dedalus is taking his name from James Joyce's character Stephen Dedalus...
I agree w/Dedalus, if you feel compelled to tip, stay an extra half hour. Use that time to recupriate. Ask the girl to get you a drink and some food. Her eyes will light up since it's time on the clock w/out having to bang. Of course, you can do a quickie right before your time is up.
Hessen Bub
05-16-07, 06:59
I've been around in the FKK-scene for a while, and I usually do not tip. I've tipped girls maybe 5 or 6 times in over 5 years of clubbing. And this means plus 10 EUR, not more. And there's only 2 reasons for it: Outstanding performance or spending e.g. 40 minutes in the room and the girl is "only" charging 50 EUR. I do not see why careful tipping should spoil anything.
Hessen Bub
I do, however, disagree with you on one point: I don't think the drop in quality and/or hike in prices over the last years (which we have also seen in other countries, incidentally) is mainly about spoilage. I think it reflects a more general drop in the supply of providers from eastern Europe.
Hey,
Absolutely. Like I said, it is not the only or main reason for the drop of quality.
I think the main reason is that there are too many clubs now. Looks good on the surface, but there is not quite enough talent to maintain high performance standards all around.
Cheers,
Dedalus
that this tipping discussion is on the Palace thread, which has the highest number of tourists, and the highest number of complaints by regulars recently. Probably also the highest number of tippers too. To this extent I do think it is a factor at Palace, and has contributed to the general corruption of service value at this club compared with others over the past two years. (Of course there are still good providers here).
"A couple of tenners, that's all" is real money in the real world, we shouldn't forget that, especially to the local Germans, for whom the hobby is probably more expensive relative to their incomes.
Hessen Bub is generally right in my opinion (although I think he's getting a bit soft in his old age here :-)). Tipping must be the absolute exception for absolute exceptional quality. I cannot remember the last time I did it to be honest. Although I've been living in and around Germany for close to thirty years, I look upon myself each time as a guest of the club and as a guest of the German locals who have created it and support it day in, day out. Only this way will I continue to enjoy it. They are angered by tipping, so I don't. Punkt.
Priamos has been treated gently here, and that is absolutely correct, because it is tempting to lob in a tenner in the post-coital week-kneed hormonal flush still overwhelming your judgement and any remaining sanity as you approach the cash lockers with a smiling hand-holding beauty whose gorgeous willing mouth was all over your dick but moments ago...... Ring a bell with anyone? And customs do vary from country to country. My hope is that others tempted to try the fruits of the FKK will take the locals' custom on board, out of courtesy.
"A couple of tenners, that's all" is real money in the real world, we shouldn't forget that, especially to the local Germans, for whom the hobby is probably more expensive relative to their incomes.
Mmmmwell, yes, I see your point. Here in Paris you pay around 8 euros for a draught beer, so I guess that I took a very literal approach to the word "Trinkgeld" (translation: drinking money).
Although I've been living in and around Germany for close to thirty years, I look upon myself each time as a guest of the club and as a guest of the German locals who have created it and support it day in, day out. Only this way will I continue to enjoy it. They are angered by tipping, so I don't. Punkt.
Toscana, with all respect I think you're being a bit parochial here. I myself have lived in four different European countries and consider myself as, well, a European. I was already a bit surprised when someone described me as a "tourist", because I spend my working life in and across the European continent. Of course one should respect local customs whereever one goes (there are also huge differences between, say, Geneva and Luzern...), but I would find it upsetting to be considered as an "outsider" in a bar in London, an opera house in Milan or... a brothel in Hessen.
Hessen Bub
05-16-07, 13:52
Hessen Bub is generally right in my opinion (although I think he's getting a bit soft in his old age here :-)). Tipping must be the absolute exception for absolute exceptional quality.
Thx for the compliment ... ;-) It IS the exception for absolute outstanding performance, and nothing else. I don't think I am known in the club for "extreme-tipping" ...
And I did most of the tipping in other clubs than Palace.
Hessen Bub
And I did most of the tipping in other clubs than Palace.
Hessen Bub
You don't say??? ;-)))
Cheers,
Dedalus
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