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04-05-04, 19:31
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Carnal1
04-05-04, 20:29
I am not shy :-) I will gladly break in this new section with a two thumbs up review. Great location, great venue, well worth the short travel time from anywhere in Central Frankfurt. My visit was posted a couple of weeks ago and was one of my best experiences in Germany, after World, and PHG :-) The food is decent, the locker room is immaculate, as is are the saunas, showers/bathrooms and Kino area. Very nighlclub looking, Hi tech, and clean. Highly recommended from a very particular traveller.

Go see for yourselves,

Carnal1 (aka Lanrac)

LuvumBare
04-05-04, 23:13
The web site is www.the-palace.de

Very representitve of the operation.

Minimus
04-07-04, 03:31
Anybody know how to get there by public transportation from Frankfurt Hauptbanhof?

Fats
04-07-04, 06:03
Minimus,

From the Hauptbahnhof go downstairs to tracks 101 and 102. Take any train for two stops to Hauptwache. Go upstairs and then go back downstairs to the U6/U7 line towards Heerstraße/Hausen. Again take any train as the two lines split after the stop you want. Get off the train at Industriehof, it is the first stop after you are no longer below ground. The club is at most a five minute walk from the train station. At the end of the platform turn left so that you walk across the tracks. Cross the street and turn right. You should now be walking along a tall stone wall. After around 50 feet there will be a break in the stone wall, this is Koenigsberger Strasse. The Palace is on the left side of the street just after a mobile food stand. Look for the sign Hinterhaus. I haven't been there since it was Paradies so things might have changed some but you should be able to find it easily. The whole trip should take less than half an hour from the Hbf.

Toscana
04-07-04, 14:59
Interesting first visit to Palace on Monday night late. I went there as Atlantis is unfortunately no longer available.

Firstly directions: it was dark, and pouring with rain, and I was driving. I know Frankfurt reasonably well. However, if you are going by car, you must be sure to follow the instructions on the website (www.the-palace.de ) very carefully, or better still, the simple German ones on the Kaleu site (http://www.kaleus-clubindex.de.vu/) (still listed as FKK Paradies), which is what I did. Otherwise you will possibly get very lost. It’s not an easy area with lots of one-way traps and not many people around to ask. The sign, when you turn into the right street, is well lit. Parking was no problem at all.

Maybe it was because it is the beginning of Easter week, and maybe because I arrived quite late at 12.30 am, but on entering there is not the buzz and party atmosphere that made Atlantis so exceptional. You certainly do not have to nudge your way through groups of gorgeous women talking to not so gorgeous men :-) to get to the bar, as I remember having to do last month at Atlantis, although the overall size is comparable. Everything is more spread out and set back against the walls, with the centre being the raised-level bar. It took a little while to orient myself properly.

The place is very clean. The locker room is spartan and functional, in fact without that much room, and the safes are clearly designed for Viagra packets, too small for a reasonable size wallet. Showers are better than most, but water was splashed everywhere, including cold pools under foot trailing back to the lockers. The main room is very spacious with nice sofas, tables with stools like at a café and swinging divans with cushions. I didn’t visit the sauna area at all. The cinema is the best I have yet seen at an FKK, with very comfortable mattresses on different levels. Very well conceived. There was a buffet included in the price, as are the soft drinks, saunas etc. I did not try the food, even though it was still available at the late hour. Prices are as reported EUR 65 for entry, EUR 50 for the standard number, anything else should really be negotiated beforehand.

The lighting was typically rather low, which made scouting a little hazardous. Some of the non-German women are quite aggressive, and as a result anything more than a furtive glance into the shadows to ascertain quality is likely to elicit an approach, which can be rather tiresome after a while. Certainly the slightest interest is acted upon immediately (a raised inquiring eyebrow was all that was necessary to get attention sometimes), and it was often only after the girl had jumped over the sofa back and wrapped her various limbs around you that you realized that she was perhaps not what you had hoped she might be. The quality that evening was not comparable with Atlantis on a good night, but as I said it may not be representative. Two or three 9s (magnificent 10 bodies, but slightly less magnificent faces), plenty of 6-8s of all body styles, including of course plenty of the typical fuller German model, and perhaps rather too many unemployed, aging, heavyweight dogs for my taste, I am afraid. Woof. There were to begin with probably about 30-35 girls of very varied nationality, and maybe 20-25 men. By 3 am the numbers had thinned considerably. So, even when discounting the barkers, there was never going to be any problem finding someone to your taste. As always it is well worth waiting a good while before making a choice, which means making pleasant excuses to the several pushy ones who will approach you.

I finally chose Helen from Hungary, who - a 9 without a shadow of a doubt - was by far the sexiest girl in the place that evening. Tall, medium to long frizzy blonde hair, perfect slim body badly concealed in a fetching red chiffon wrap, medium-sized natural breasts, mischievous but not really beautiful face. She’s probably aged about 20. She attracted attention and applause with an very graceful and lithe stint at the pole. She’s confident and knows what she’s got. One glance and the briefest of nods from me as she passed, and she joined me on the sofa in a trice. As I had already shown interest, the preliminaries were brief and to the point, but enough to register that her languages are good. We spoke German, but she told me English is no problem.

Helen led me off to the cinema. It is so nice there, that for the first time I was happy for the action to take place there rather than in a room. Performance was not great though. Slick, success-oriented but nevertheless efficient covered BJ followed at her option by missionary, where it was soon obvious that her only aim was to finish me off as quickly as possible. This is a girl who is friendly and cheerful enough, but quite clearly she has many customers, none of whom is more than a cash-bearing statistic. Eurosis is rapidly becoming a serious illness in central and eastern Europe, you know. OK, fair enough. Faced with this, my policy is to switch off any inclination to please the girl, simply to rein in the gymnastics and enjoy the body, ignoring the missing rapport. This is no problem, it’s a consumer society after all and we are all responsible for our own destinies. Even if – no exaggeration - she is urging you to come after about 45 seconds (“shpreetz meesh voll, Schatz” with a wacky Hungarian accent, oh yes she knows the jargon). What she doesn’t realize is that a fifty-year old has far less of a problem enjoying and holding out than he had when he was 25. After a while, as she realized she was going to have hang around a while, she cut out the urging and the faking, and we got into a much more organized rhythm. Because she is beautiful and compliant, and because I enjoyed roaming around her body curves immensely for the full half hour, you have to give her a generous 6 for performance. Afterwards at paytime (the standard EUR 50 for 30 mins), my ignoring with a blink and a stare her heavy hint for a tip hopefully gave the right market signal. What else can you do?

I then made a mistake. Not with my second choice, as it turned out, but I simply got manoeuvred into a second round too quickly. Joy from Thailand (but American father, and she has been in Germany for many years) was one of the pushy girls who will approach you on the sofas. But she is quite engaging and humorous about it. Short and slender, she is no more than a 6 in looks, but has a very appealing lower body. Breasts with very prominent chewy nipples have clearly seen a lot of use and better days. Pleasant but unexceptional face. We spoke German, but again I am sure English would be no problem. By the time of her third approach it was becoming a bit of a joke between us, but it paid off for her. This time she simply grinned and started DFK and BBBJ on the sofa, and to my surprise this had an immediate effect on me, although I’d only left the cinema about 20 minutes before. I warned her that there was no guarantee of great stamina, but she insisted it would be OK.

The rooms seem to be very good, and certainly the red-themed one Joy chose was very comfortable indeed. Everything seems to have been very well renovated. Well, it came as it had to come (or rather didn’t want to come). Every slight break in the action, whether to adjust the music, move a cushion or fish out a condom was enough to cause a good degree of wilt and sag, and full recovery measures had to be applied. But I must say it was all very pleasurable, she does a very expert BBBJ and showed great willing and commendable, no, amazing stamina (“Don’t worry, I am used to this problem”. “Oh, really? Why put bromide in the goulash at a place like this?” She didn’t get it). Occasionally we managed the odd unambitious but temporary position, but I am sure that she has a great variety of services to offer. She’s an experienced lady (please forgive me, it would have been a bad joke to have inquired about anal under the circumstances), but it was obvious it was going to be a successful blow-job or nothing. Of course this eventually threatens to lead to stress for both sides, and at several points I was on the verge of breaking off operations, but she simply would not give up. And in fact we eventually made it, to Joy’s great, er, joy. Resounding cheers from the participants, and a relief to both, in their different ways. She then cuddled up for a relaxing ten minutes chatting as we both recovered. She was perspiring profusely and checking her jaw-wiring carefully, but all was OK. We agreed mutually that half-an-hour definitely had become an hour, so she was paid a well-earned EUR 100. Anything less than top marks for performance would be churlish. When I am fitter, I would certainly like to try out what else she has to offer another time.

At the beginning I thought I was not going to like this club very much, but as it became more familiar it grew on me. You need luck with your choices of course, but I had a good time. So Palace really could be a very good alternative in central Frankfurt, as long as they can keep the quality of the girls up.

Euro100
04-24-04, 03:43
Toscana captured the feel of the place beautifully.

Here is my take:

I was at the Palace in late March. Got there at 3 pm, and the place was absolutely dead. Only 5 girls or so present. But the decor of the place is now the best I have ever seen. Just perfect! The light is bright enough to see, but dim enough for cozyness. So I disagree a bit with Toscana on this part. I found the light quite a bit brighter than Atlantis'.

Huge sofas and tons of pillows around. You get the feeling to be in some elaborate harem.

Since it was dead, I left after only one session, with Sasha, formerly of Atlantis. I came back at 7. Since I had told them I was going to be back, they gave me a piece of paper with a stamp, and I did not have to pay again.

At 7 pm, there were about 15 girls there, and only about 10 men. I like that ratio. A really great dinner buffet was set up with gold smoked salmon & trout, warm pasta, vegies, chicken breast, turkey cordon bleu, salad. Several sauces. Bread.

They have a coffee and juice bar, and also a soft drink and beer bar, the latter one in the middle of the big room. Really big bonus: no porn movies in the main room.

Absolutely great cinema room, though, with decent porn running.

My first evening session was with Helen, formerly also working at Atlantis. She is blond, slim, smallish rack, but very firm. She came over to show my that she had just put lotion on her boobs. Well, of course I had to test this. Since I already had had her a couple of times at Atlantis last year, I knew her already. And she is still the same high quality.

Then there was Lola, from Spain. She speaks almost no English or German. But somehow we manged to get the message across. She described to me the four kinds of massages she gives. That seemed like a lot of fun. And she turned out to be the best sesion of the day. She is a real pro, in the best sense of the word.

I had to take a rest and went to the big sofa in the corner that is suspended from the ceiling like a swing. Jessica joined me there. She was really pleasant to talk to, and I would have taken her up on her offer to go to "the room", but I needed an extended break. By the way, Jessica told me that the current Palace used to be an empty warehouse last year. It seems that Paradise was next door, but the Palace seems to be new and not exactly the place that Paradise was. I don't know if this is true; I never went to the Paradise.

I took a sauna and then went to the big warm whirlpool. Sitting in it, I noticed that the DJ was one of the working girls. Now picture this: the DJ position is at one end of the big central bar, towards the side of the whirlpool. I am sitting in this pool, and keep wathing as she boogies to the music she is selecting. She is about 15 feet away from me, with nobody else in view from my vantage point. Her only clothes are black leather boots, a see-through hankerchief-size scarf wrapped around her hips, and head phones. She notices me staring at her and smiles at me. After a while, she comes over and asks me if I want a drink. Sure! As she serves me my coke in the pool, she bends down, and right in front of my face her p..sy smiles at me. It is this kind of setup that you always dreamed about as a teenager, isn't it. By the way, her name is Luisa. (not her real name, as she admitted, but if you ask for Luisa, they all will know who you mean). She is a really friendly girl, with an easy smile.

OK, suddenly my need for rest was gone. I was ready for DJ Luisa. After the fact, my only regret is that I did not ask her to do it standing up in the DJ booth, with her bent over to select music and me banging her from behind. Maybe next time ...

By the way, I think that it is a waste of time to take the train. Just take a taxi from the main train station. You'll be there in less than 10 minutes, and it should only cost a few euros.

Carnal1
04-24-04, 14:25
Euro and Toscanna,

Great posts from both of you. Granted, this place is not World, Atlantis, or Oase in the high volume of gorgeous girls BUT the venue and location surely help. I don't need to fuck 65 girls in one night, looking at 65 naked girls is nice. I found that the girls I met there were a slightly different breed than the ones at World. I think there must be a transortation factor for both the girls and the visitors. If its easy to get to for both the place has a great foundation for success.

I was only going to spend a few hours one afternoon before I headed to Oase BUT I got sidetracked by a few nice looking ladies. I was completely comfortable hanging in the main area, actually fell asleep on one of those large couches across from the main dance floor with the music booming and naked girls lying around me in evey kind of pose. I woke up every 15 minutes or so just to make sure I was not dreaming, the girls just watched me and smiled.

I vividly recall sitting in that spa, watching things go by, great scene.

N-joy,

Carnal1 aka Lanrac

Iseeu
04-24-04, 21:40
Euro 100 and Toscana,
enjoyed your posts.
I was in FFM last week, turns out during a big trade show in the Messe. Wanted to check out the action at Palace after receiving many good reports.
Firstly, want to correct a previous post - it is very easy to drive to. From FRA get off the A5 at Westkreuz or Nordwestkreuz. The club is maybe 3-4 minutes from the highway. From the city, drive towards the Messe. Theodor Heuss Allee runs alongside the Messe (it's also the main entrance road into the city from Westkreuz). The road that runs parallel to that on its northern side becomes Ludwig Landmann strasse. drive on this for 3-4 minutes and it takes you to Konigsbergerstrasse. Turn right and 3 blocks down on the righthand side is Palace - which you can't miss from the street. They have taken over the warehouse that used to be in front, which explains the far larger premises. Total from city center(in off-peak times)10 minutes.
It is also an easy taxi drive from anywhere in the city - no need for the train as previously posted.
Finished my meetings, dinner etc. at midnite. 10 minutes later, after finding parking 3 blocks away (the parking lot was full as were all legal spots in the vicinity), I'm walking into the club with 15 or so other guys - this at 12:15 a.m. As we approach the club 2 guys come out complaining about the scene inside, They said that there were at least 70 guys already inside and maybe 30 women - but the stars were taken for long sessions and the others were trying to do standard sessions in 15 minutes for the turnover.
That's all I needed to hear. Back to the car and 15 minutes later, pull into my old favorite Oase, for a laidback evening.

Ready Man
04-26-04, 22:21
Greetings,

Had an opportunity to visit Frankfurt recently on a Friday night and after advise from some members of this forum, decided to give it a try. I set up a Taxi ride from near the airport at 8:30 expecting to pay the 10-15 euro fare. Upon arrival, the meter was 48.5 euro. Yikes.

Went inside and the ladies at the door were nice and showed me the ropes and handed me my key and towels. Showered and proceded to head out to the floor to check out the action. first impression was that there were 20 or so girls and the same amount of guys. Buffet was cleaned out and there was no alcohol to be had in the place. The quality of the girls was pretty nice so after a few laps around the place, I sat in a sofa in the central area of the club. I was looking around trying not to make serious eye contact with any girls as I wanted to be selective.

After a few minutes, a dark haired gal from greece came and sat next to me and started to get real friendly, soon progressed to DFK...and then off to the room. This girl had a rocking body, with medium sized natural breasts, and a nice face (Sandra Bullock like with a few more blemishes) She took charge and I was able to simpley relax while she did some BBBJ with great skill and lots of tongue action. We then proceeded to the next level in several positions with some good moaning. Finished in the doggie position and then rested for the remainder of our session. Never felt hurried in any way. Overall grade was 9 body, 8 face, 9 service.

Next hour was just cruising around the club trying not to stay put for too long to avoid the more agressive and less attractive girls. Then out came round two of the food buffet.... from a short distance away, it reminded me of hogs feeding at the feed trough and this included the girls as well. Needless to say, the food option was not appealing to me so I passed. The juice, softdrinks, and water seemed to be all that I needed.

After an hour or so, I was taking notes of the girls trying to set up the next deal. There were about 3-5 girls that I would classify as extremely attractive (~9/10) so I decided to satisfy my need for some eye candy. I was making serious eye contact to the ones that I was interested in and in a few minutes a real nice girl came buy, my night was soon to be made. This girl looked like a petite J Lo and talked like Natasha from the old cartoons. While talking about our plans for the evening, she made me a two girl offer that really tempted me...but I did not want to spend the rest of the cash that I brought with me after the taxi ride dampened my supply more than anticipated. So we decided to head off to a room but they were all occupied. We looked in the cinema room but the atmosphere in there really was a turn off for me as there were two couples and a couple of guys hanging out. We waited about 10-15 minutes and then a room came open. She started out with a BBBJ that was knocking my socks off. This girl had lots of eye contact and has this seductive look to her that drove me nuts. After 5-10 minutes, we moved into a few positions that included lots of eye contact and noise. I was simply enjoying myself and was in no hurry to finish the act. After 15 minutes or so of total enjoyment, it was time to finish the deal. I asked her to finish me and she yanked off the rubber and pulled out the lotion. Then I asked her to finish me with her mouth and she just gave me this sexy smile and I knew it was going to be good. She then started with a slow wet BJ and lots of eye contact and pleasure noises. Then she asked me if I would like to finish in her mouth for another 50. I gave here the nod and she went to town and took everything that I could possibly give her. She then pulled up and gave me a cum dripping smile and told me that it tasted great. Still have that vivid moment in my mind. It was the best 100 that I ever spent and I give this girl 10 around. This was not a GFE but more a PSE (porn star experience).

After that, I knew that my cash supply was low so I ordered a taxi back to the airport hotel and again was hit with a 40 euro ride which seemed high.

In summary, this is the first FKK experience and I was totally impressed by the quality and service. It sure beats the cold and mechanical window girls from Amsterdam or Brussels and the AMPs or escorts in the US. I will certainly make this place a routine stop in the future.

Fats
04-27-04, 22:34
Angelique from Siberia-formerly of Atlantis.

Just a quick note to all her fans that she was working in the Palace on Monday the 26th and is planing on getting a boob job so she may be taking some time off after to recover if she goes through with it.

Euro100
04-28-04, 03:42
Ready Man,

The airport is quite some distance away from downtown Frankfurt. So that's why your taxi ride was so expensive. It is far cheaper to take a train from the airport to the downtown main train station and then take a taxi from there to the Palace. Is this worth it to you? I don't know. But for the 80+ euros you paid both ways you could have had the train rides to downtown and back, the two much shorter taxi rides + one more euro50 encounter with a girl.

Just a thought for next time.

LuvumBare
04-28-04, 14:59
Round trip train from airport to downtown is 7Euro.

Taxi from Bahnhoff to Palace is 10Euro.

You can also take the U6 but then you have a short hike to Palace.

Does anyone have any reports about the special party night they seem to have on a regular basis. What goes on and are there discounts?

Bare

Jaas
05-03-04, 20:00
I have a couple of quick questions. I'm going to Frankfurt in July for a vacation and the whole FKK scene is very interesting. I've never tried it, but I plan on it. Sooo....
I understand that The Palace is fairly easy to get to from Frankfurt, what are some more clubs that are worth checking out that are easy to get to for someone that will not have a rented car?

Does Tha Palace or any other clubs take credit cards?

Thanks a bunch everyone.

Jaas

Homers
05-05-04, 10:10
Hello everyone,

I have just had my first FKK experience, and it was great! I had some spare time in Frankfurt, and after having studied all the reports here I decided to go to Palace. I took a cab from Hauptbahnhof (train station). I said the street name to the cab driver and he replied "Palace?". The trip took about ten or fifteen minutes and costed EURO 12. I was buzzed in through the gate to the club and a nice woman explained the rules to me in English. I paid the entrance fee of EURO 65 and was given two towels and a key to a locker. After having showered I went out into the actual club. I couldn't believe my eyes. So many gorgeous woman almost or totally naked just walking around. I would guess there were about 15-20 girls and probably about the same amount of men. I walked around for a bit and sat down in the bar and ordered a free coke. This was just great. So many pretty girls. I would say half of them were 9s and the rest were 8s and 7s. I walked around a bit more and when I sat down in one of the sofas one girl approached me right away. She wasn't really my type so I said I wanted to look around a bit more. Then I saw a the most beautiful girl of them all there. A tall semi-blond South American girl. She stood around a bar table with three or four other girls. I waited a while for her to look my way or perhaps come my way. But she just stood there and after ten minutes I went up to her. I just said "Hi" and off we went to the cinema. We cuddled for a while there and she turned to be even prettier than I first thought. While we were kissing I put my hand closer to her pussy. She then moved her hand quickly down there and I thought she was about to remove my hand. For some reason, some working girls don't like to be touched there. But no, she took my hand and stuck my fingers right into her pussy. And she was wet! After a little while we went to a room. I had been told that a 30 minute session costs EURO 50. But she told me that I could get a longer VIP session for EURO 100. Perhaps I was stupid to say yes to this, but she was so great that I couldn't say no. We had a great time and it was definately worth the money. Her name was Fani (I think) and she was from Puerto Rico.

After some chilling out I noticed a black girl sitting in the sofa. I went up to her and sat myself next to her. We did some cuddling and we went quickly away to a room. She was no where near as good as the first girl. The session as mechanical and there was no passion at all. I finished it quickly. I never got her name.
I decided to wait for a while now so I just sat in the bar watching the girls. Two of them used the swimming pool and it was a joy watching them jump up and down. Later on I went away to the cinema area and there I saw this guy being blowed by a blond woman.

She even did him on top while I and another guy were watching.

After having waited long enough I approaced a small very cuty Spanish girl. We sat down and she did a BBBJ in front of the other people. Nice. The session in the room was also really good and she was a great kisser. Her name was Bonita.

After three sessions there was no way I could handle anything more so I had to leave. I had then spent EURO 65 for entrance, EURO 100 for the first girl and EURO 50 each for the two other girls = EURO 265 in total. Definately worth the money.

This was my first ever to a FKK club but definately not the last one. I like the idea that it's so close to a city centre that you can taxi for a reasonable amount of money. If I understand it correctly most of the other FKK clubs are remotely located and more or less impossible to reach without a car. Please let me know if I'm wrong here.

H

Euro100
05-06-04, 02:16
Homers,

Welcome to the punter's paradise! Once you have tried the FKK experience, there is no going back. I remember my first time very well - it was unlike anything I had ever imagined. You asked if there are other FKKs around and within easy reach. Yes, there is one other really good place within a short cab ride from Hauptbahnhof. It is called Sudfass. Strictly speaking it is no FKK, and very few girls kiss; no BBBJ either. But otherwise it is quite similar, the girls are almost naked; you wear only a towel; approximately the same prices, but smaller entrance fee. No free drinks. There is alwasy a very good selection of girls there. I have gone many times, but am now hooked to FKKW, Atlantis (closed now), Oase in Burgholzhausen, and the Palace. Maybe you are interested. Tell the taxi driver "Sudfass" (pronounced "soot-fuss"), and he will get you there.

The experience you had where your first girl upped the ante to 100 is quite common. I never say yes right away, always telling her to see how it goes during the first half hour. I have extended my sessions to an hour many times, but very oftern I have also limited my losses when it became clear during the first few minutes that there was no chemistry. Once you have agreed to the 100 for the hour, you cannot get away with paying 50 any more.

I will go to the Palace on the 15th, and I will give Fani a try. Sounds like a great girl to have fun with.

By the way , please let us know what time of day and what day of the week your visit was.

Jaas: Yes, they all take credit cards. Many of the FKKs also have an ATM machine right on the premises.

Peter
05-06-04, 23:05
Jaas,

You don't want to use a Credit Card, unless you have a very permissive expense account. They will charge you at least a 10% service charge. Use your bank card at an ATM.

To Euro and Homers,

Südfass is more of an old fashioned brothel and not really a club. The other FKK in Frankfurt city proper is F35 along the Main on the Hanauer Landstrasse.

But you really should try the out of town options, they are in a league and size all their own.

Peter

Catalyst
05-07-04, 04:30
First I want to mention that people at this club are very honest. At one point when I was there I realized that I didn’t have my locker key. I quickly went to my locker to see if everything was alright and someone called out “did you lose your key?” It had fallen off in the cinema and someone had returned it to the desk. Then, after leaving at about 10 PM and driving for 45 minutes to FKK World, I looked in my wallet I realized that I had stupidly forgotten to take my cash, over 150 Euro, out of the small safe at Paradise. My hotel was close to FKK World and I didn’t relish the idea of wasting 1 ½ hours and gas on the round trip to go retrieve my money instead of visiting the club, so I called them from FKK World. I asked if they could keep my money until the next morning so I could pick it up on the way to the airport and they said that would be no problem. The next morning I passed by and the money was waiting for me in an envelope.

The club has great facilities that don’t quite compare to those at FKK World, but are a little better than at Oase (depending on how much you value the outside area at Oase, since Paradise has no outside area) and only a little less good than at (sob!) Atlantis. The decoration is all in the style of a Turkish or Arabian palace, with large soft benches and colored pillows everywhere, including in piles on the floor. There are several luxurious showers, clean lockers, and a huge marble Turkish hammam (bath) apparently available only when you purchase a Turkish massage at extra cost. Unsurprisingly, many of the men in the club looked Turkish. The main room is gigantic, with two levels, a small swimming pool, a large bar, and a buffet with tall coffee tables to eat at. There is a cinema with a large screen and about four terraced levels of mattresses perfect for relaxing or having sex in view of everyone (there are paper towels and Kleenexes on all levels signaling that this is expected here). The movies, unfortunately, were crap. The buffet was fine. There was broiled dark meat chicken quarters, mixed vegetables, boiled potatoes, lettuce with dressing, fried vegetarian patties, fried potato pancakes, and (yuk) beef tongue.

On a Sunday night there were about 12 girls, and one of the girls told me that this is fewer than usual since Sunday is a slow night. The average level was very good. There were 2 blondes from Poland and Hungary that were beautiful and that I had in the cinema. The Polish girl (Kelly) was nice, though she definitely made me aware that I was paying for it. We kissed some, though not passionately, and at times she turned her head to avoid me. At one point she even told me that she doesn’t kiss, although she continued to do so intermittently. The Hungarian girl (Christina) was just ok. She didn’t kiss at all and I didn’t finish with her. So the attitude here, at least with the two girls I saw, was only so-so.

Assuming this day was typical, the club is not a good as FKK World or Atlantis, but it compares favorably to Oase and if you are stuck in Frankfurt without a car it is probably your best option. You can take a train from the airport to Frankfurt and then a taxi from there costs some 10 Euros. If you don’t want to bother with the train a taxi from the airport will cost 40-50 euros.

Homers
05-07-04, 09:06
Euro 100,

Thanks for all the additional information.

You definately should try Fani. Out of the closer to 100 WGs I've done, I have never experience such a perfect mix of GFE and porn actress behaviour!

I realize that my report perhaps was missing some details. I was there on a Tuesday evening, arriving around 10, and leaving around 2. I'm not sure if this is a slow night of the week, but I don't think I would have enjoyed it more even if it wore more girls there.

I will try Sudfass, although I don't really understand what the difference between this place and a FKK is.

I hope to read a report of your visit on the 15th!

H

LuvumBare
05-07-04, 21:28
Homers,

Did Bonita have rather long hair with some curls and did she wear high, black "hooker" boots? If this is the same Bonita I was with last month, you should know she is also a "Starship Trooper" and for a mere 50Euro, she will gladly open the back gate. I enjoyed her for 1 hour and spent a good deal of time driving the Hershey Highway.

Another prime lady is Jenny. She is from Jamica and has an light brown skin. Not a facial beauty, but good English, laughs a lot and will give you a session you will not soon forget.

Bare

Euro100
05-09-04, 04:56
Peter,

Yes, I agree that Sudfass is not really an FKK Club in the strict sense. I made the (in my opinion only slight) differences clear in my post. And Homers is correct in saying that it is not entirely obvious where the difference is.

By the way, there are more clubs in Frankfurt than the F35 that you name. There is also Napoleon on the Hanauer Landstrasse. There is the Huehnerhof in Sachsenhausen. (In both I have received competent service.) I have also tried the clubs in Dietzenbach (graduated fee structure, so that additional encounter get cheaper; but I only found two girls worht doing) and Hanau (Diwan, has only few girls, but some of them are good), which are quite close-by. And I am sure that there are other which I do not know about. The German daily "Bild" usually has plenty of ads for the clubs.

And, yes, I agree completely with you that the trip to FKKW is well worth the extra travel, because it is in a higher league than any of the clubs in Frankfurt. Only Atlantis was able to compete with it.

But give the Palace a little time. It is still very new, and it needs to get settled. I know the owner (also named Peter, by the way), and he is determined to make this work. So I will check in periodically to see what the current state of Paradise is. I expect this club to make it.

euro

Homers
05-10-04, 09:11
LuvumBare,

Yes, it's definately the same Bonita as you mention. Such a sweet girl. I will try her "special service" next time!

H

Member #1980
05-13-04, 01:22
I had a bad experience in Oase last Saturday. I spent about 28 minutes with a Russian girl (I checked my watch), but was asked by that girl to pay 100E and stated I used her 40 minutes. I complained to the manager. The manager ( a lady) asked me to pay 100E, otherwise, I had to leave the club. I think the manager in Oase protected girl and not the customer. Two days later at palace, a German girl spent only 5 minutes in a very rush way and left room and asked me to pay her 50 Euro. I complained to the manager (a man). After listening my complain, he asked that girl to his office to talk. I never see this girl again later in next 6 hours. I am sure she was asked to leave. What a difference!

Round the World
05-14-04, 10:44
I'm thinking about going to Palace on May 20, however I hear that this is the last day of a trade show in Frankfurt, IFFA.

Does anyone think I would be better off going to World on this day instead in order to avoid the trade show crowd?

Thanks in advance.
RTW

Carnal1
05-14-04, 14:46
RTW,

Definitely go to World, ecspecially if the weather is nice. The grounds are much nicer and the number of girls to guys will probably be much better at World if there is a trade show going on in Frankfurt. I have been to both. Palace would be great if you don't have transportation to World, thats your only caveat.

n-joy

Carnal1

Euro100
05-14-04, 18:51
RTW,

It depends on the time of day you plan to go. If you go around 4 pm, then Palace will be relatively empty. The late shift girls arrive aorund 5. You can then get a couple of encounters bagged before the trade show hordes arrive.

Now keep in mind that the girls also know when the trade shows are. And they will adjust their attendance accordingly. Frankfurt always has some kind of trade show, fair, conference, or something else going on. But during the high-attendance trade shows the girls come to the FKKs more often, because they know that the ratio of customers to providers will be in their favor. So it's a trade-off (pun intended).

My recommendation is to play it safe and go to World, in particular if you have all day. You can hang out at the pool, eat, drink, lounge, and occasionally engage in the activity that is our common hobby on this board.

Cheers,

Euro

Beffen1
05-16-04, 08:40
Hallo hobbyists,

After becoming addicted to Planet Happy Garden in Oedt near Dusseldorf over the last year and a half, I finally dipped my toes into the Frankfurt scene by visiting Palace on May 9, a Sunday night. I stayed at the Monopol, fine for 79 euro but my bath and shower only had tepid water- no hot- wassup wid that?

At PHG, among single visits with various new girls or old friends, I had three consecutive daily one hour full on lesbian threesomes with my two favorite blonde girls- a tall willowy and incredibly horny sexy 19 year old C-cup German beauty and an equally incredibly affectionate and sweet yet horny 23 year old vixen from Czechia. I had met on the third and final PHG night WSG poster Al Bundy who had much wisdom to impart regarding the relative merits of Palace, Oase, and World versus PHG. PHG is a favorite of his as well as of myself. I had planned to take the 69 euro train from Venlo to Frankfurt on my final day, but a German friend from PHG provided a ride and gave me a special guided automobile tour of the Rhineland, dropping me in Mainz, a short 6 euro train to Frankfurt Hbf.

Arriving in Frankfurt at 3 PM, I checked into the Monopol and walked the surrounding blocks for a while. I really wanted to go to World at the behest of Ortos, who I know from another board, while Al Bundy had suggested Oase. However, I decided to check Palace first since, if it sucked, I still had time until 11 PM or so to hop on the S-bahn and train it either to Giessen/World or Friedricksdorf/Oase and stay until 4 or 5 AM before returning to the hotel and airport Monday morning. My cabbie was an old fart German guy who told me all about his own mongering preferences- escorts, older Hispanic women who he likes to videotape.

On entering Palace at about 7 PM, I gave my 65 euro to the woman with the Tammy Faye Baker troweled- on makeup and was led into the club by a uniformed matron. The sweeping curved rows of lockers were in sharp contrast to the tight quarters of the PHG changing room. I placed all my belongings and valuables into the clothes locker, only later did I notice the tiny safe deposits for money and passport. I guess on a busier night it would be wise to use those for my money. I showered up and had a walkabout. There were maybe 10 guys wandering around and about 15 girls. I was very impressed with the layout and “newness” of it all, not to mention the bouncing boobs of the buxom providers, but the lighting made scoping out the talent a bit difficult. I perched at the rear of the bar to get a soda and was engaged by a very cute Spanish babe with long curly light brown hair. Laura from Barcelona was an inverse Jennifer Lopez look-alike, big firm yet pear- shaped c cups and a small girlish booty and belly. After some preliminary chat and kissy face and initial inspection of her 23 year old frame, it wasn’t long before she was leading me to my first true FKK room. On the way, she gave me a minitour of the club, she seemed to want to do it in the cinema but there were two guys in there only and cheesy porn so we went to the room. The session was fine- she was a passionate kisser and tasted fine, those c-cups got lots of attention. She took my phone number for a possible summer visit in NY.

After a shower, I wandered around and had some of the excellent beef goulash, potatoes, noodles, salade and beans with bread. I then repaired to one on the huge pillow filled swinging beds. It wasn’t long before I was joined by a 30ish Ukranian girl who chatted me up and rubbed my belly for 20 minutes. She wasn’t room material though, and she gave up although the young Russian on a nearby couch was. I motioned her over ready to debauch this schoolgirl but she spoke no English and blew me off after 2 minutes. I moved to another couch and soon another neked German girl was rubbing my belly and trying to recruit me. I found this a bit more relaxing than pacing the smoke filled bar at PHG, but I still love that place as well. It is easier I think to eatablish a lasting prapport at PHG, but this requires more research on my part at Palace. Soon, I was attracted to the upturned butt of a blonde on a nearby couch. I went over to talk, she was a plain looking German pro who was nice enough but not the right choice for me- why I took her to a room I don’t know but I sometimes do thing like that. No harm done. I had noticed a blonde amazon strutting around who earlier had disappeared into a room with a guy and a gal for a threesome. I decided to wait for her and when she appeared I went right over and grabbed her. She was 182 cm with perfect large c’s and a supermodel face with hair down almost to her ass. Her name was Diana from Lithuania, she is 22 and a 10 looks-wise. Service wise I would rate her a 7. She was constantly trying to sell me upgrades. As I tried to kiss her, she begged me for anal- only 50 euro more. Here I had this supermodel 10 begging me to do her in the ass- who was I to refuse? When I said OK she relaxed a bit, kissed me more deeply and we began to wrestle in front of the huge mirror. The rooms are very plush at Palace, some have CD players inside so next time I shall burn some CD’s for the girls and pound them to my favorite tunes. One thing about Diana, her face was so beautiful that I really enjoyed just watching her blow me, I had to instruct her to do it slow and sexy a couple of times, but she got the message. Soon, she was begging for the anal again, so we struggled a bit to get me in and then she just arched her back, put her face into the bed, rubbed her puss and cooed for 10 minutes while I did it. After a while she made some finishing noises and also made a bit of a mess so we stopped and went to the next door lavatory to freshen up. We rutrned to the bed to start over but after 10 minutes our 30 minutes were over but I was not ready to relinquish this goddess, so we went for a second half hour of slow BJ and multiposition boffing. She basically just lay there for most of the pounding. For 150 euro for an hour with anal it wasn’t bad. The eye candy was worth it. I wouldn’t repeat though.

I showered extra long this time, and again returned to the main harem room to relax. Another fanta, another plate of goulash spuds, and salade, a quick sauna, watching a guy and a girl play in the pool, which was very clean and inviting, and some more chats with belly- rubbing saleswomen. Some girls told me that the Friday night Eastern Party featured 70 or 80 girls and long waits for rooms, and that Saturday was much more subdued. It was getting close to 1 AM and they were still bringing out food and guys continued to arrive in dribs and drabs. I especially liked the watermelon slices. Back by the bar, there were five naked girls lounging with nothing to do, one was my Laura from Spain and her friend, a hot pornoed out Puerta Ricana was waving and pulsing her ass in my direction. I joined them on the swing to schmooze and Fanni- the porno queen pushed her natural D’s into my face and grabbed my unit and began kissing and stroking me. Laura recommended her wholeheartedly. This lasted for about 15 minutes while I massaged her chests and she got me rock hard. Couch action- yes I like this. We went to a room and had a horny sweaty half hour which included me bringing her off digitally while she sucked me and a salsa lesson.

By 2 AM, after four days of non-stop sex and travel, I decided to call it a night. I taxied back to the hotel for 9.60 and hit the free internet in the monopol to post on another site. I shall definitely return to Palace- this was a very slow night and there still was plenty that was of interest. Palace is an excellent venue for the winter time, inclement weather, or when you are in Frankfurt and pressed for time. However, I look forward to exploring FKK World and Oase in summer when the outdoor facilities.

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Jaas
05-16-04, 20:04
Just curious.

Are couples welcome in FKK clubs? Do you ever see any there?

Thanks

Ortos
05-16-04, 21:21
At last, Beffen, welcome to the world of couch action. I am sure that, as you "pepto" your way through additional clubs like Oase and World, and make repeat visits to Palace, you will become quite adept at playing the couch-action field and you will grow to like it.

That's a really great description of Palace. The account of your experiences there really made me feel like I was back in the club myself. You really captured the spirit and feel of the place. Your comments about the food at Palace are bang on. Over two visits there I saw different food each time, so they really make an effort there both in terms of quality and variety. Palace really does put the other clubs to shame in food department.

I'm sure you will have some interesting comments to make when you add Oase and World to your FKK club portfolio.

Dedalus
05-17-04, 02:05
Beffen,

I was at Palace last Thursday and saw this lady Diana. You are right, she does have a model face. However something about her manner gave me the impression that she would try hard to ply on the extras. It is my experience that if you say no to these with this type of provider, then the "normal" session will be a real drag.

Palace has quite a few former Atlantis girl working there now. One girl told me that it is really a comfortable place for the Atlantis crowed, and that the managment really treats them well. She also said that many former Atl. girl who initially went to Oase caught a hard time from the girls who were already there. This could be true from I was at Oase two weeks ago and alot of the Atlantis girls who I saw on previous visits were nowhere to be found.

Marina (Blond, Lithuanian, top act!) was at Palace last Thursday. She has been away for awhile and it was great to have a "re-aquainting" session with this godess. She said that she may try Oase next week to see which club is better for her.

Cindy (Blond, Poland, luscious body!) was also there and as delicious as always.

Some of the girls there told me that there only real complaint about Palace is that there are not enough customers. Hard to understand since this club is the easiest to access of all the Frankfurt clubs.

Cheers all,

Dedalus

Homers
05-17-04, 08:53
Beffen,

Thanks for the great report. And it's nice to hear that you also enjoyed the services of Fanni. Is she great or what?

H

Beffen1
05-17-04, 21:28
Thanks guys for the comments. So the Oase girls are territorial eh? I have heard that they are a rough crowd. Well, I know I will do my best as we all should to increase the number of customers at Palace. Maybe they can add a roof top outdoor swimming pool for summer.

Beffen

Carnal1
05-18-04, 11:08
Befto,

I would suggest at least an outdoor courtyard somewhere. That place needs a place to chill in fresh air. Like you said earlier, definitely a Winter venue, at least maybe a mid day nooner type venue before you go home to the wife and kids.

I passed on going to Oase the night I was at Palace since I had my hands full with the local girls. Quite a few of the girls mentioned how they disliked the Mangagement styles at both Atlantis and Oase. They also gave me the impression that they were more independent than the cliques or groups of girls that hang out toghether like they did during my stay at World. The Palace Girls tended to wander around by themselves, itting at the bar solo.

doooog

Carnal1

Hessen Bub
05-18-04, 18:14
Palace is only lacking the outdoor facility and some more men. Summer will be a hard time. Most girls will change to Oase.

Oase girls were a little upset about the Atlantis-girl-invasion. But fights have ceased.

Hessen Bub

Member #1980
05-22-04, 20:29
Let me ask a question about the strategy. I used to fuck 8-10 girls in one visit (the best use of 65e entry fee, isn't it?). I use Vigra or Cialis (similar result). The other tactic I used was holding the ejaculation till the last girl I plan to fuck that day (depend on selection in the club and energy I had I feel). That mean I ejaculate only once in fucking about 10 girls (my record is 11) in one visit. If I came earlier, it will take more time for me to get hard again. So use this stratigy, I can fuck more girls (10 girls in about 10-12 hours stay in one visit). Could you comment on if it is right thing to do (use Vigra, and holding back the ejaculation)?

Thanks!

#1980

Beffen1
05-23-04, 23:47
Member 1980,

That is a well known and sometimes troublesome side effect of Viagra- delayed ejaculation- but 11 girls? Wow. The technique certainly does allow for maximal sampling during a limited timeframe. For me too, often it is the dance and continuing the dance that is moer important- it drives some girls crazy.
beffen

Member #1980
05-29-04, 20:44
Beffen1,

What do you mean "troublesome side effect of Viagra", and "it drives some girls crazy"? Please explain. Do you think Cialis is better than Viagra? Any comments about these two recreational medicines? Which do you think is better?

I remember a comment by a member of this board: it is wonderful world--using GPS and satellites to track prostitutes, and using Cialis and/or Viagra to fuck prostitutes all day long.

BTW, can we use Cialis and Viagra together?

#1980

Beffen1
05-30-04, 18:42
Member 1980-

Taking Viagra, and Levitra, can delay or even often prevent orgasm, in essence you have a very durable stiff piece of wood with no sensitivity. This effect is more pronounced as the dose increases. Very handy if you are a "collector" and want to do many women in a day.

Once a Viagra user, I use Levitra now- no stuffy nose or headache, the face flushing is not so severe as with Viagra, and it seems to take effect quickly whether you have recently eaten a meal or not. Also- I notice a considerable positive effect of Levitra the next day without another dose. I take a 20 mg tablet and just bite off little slivers all day, I usually have a chunk left over. I have no experience with Cialis. Under no circumstances should you take a dose of two of these drugs in the same 24 hour period. And if the girl breaks out amyl nitrate "poppers" to enhance your orgasm- run away.

More and more, during sessions, due to ageing, travel fatigue, and the drugs, I often encounter the "no orgasm" side effect of Vigra and Levitra and the girls know about this effect and sometimes scold or chastise me about my Viagra use. I have to tell them that the fact that I keep sessioning with them is proof that I love them and that it is the dance and not the finish that is most important to me. It usually works but I have had favorite girls in de Wallen of Amsterdam raise my price because I work them so hard all the time. One Eastern Soviet almost tiener asked me if I was a sex tyrannist after she came twice and I just kept on going. And I fear that Leona now will only see me as a threesome with Sammi for that reason- though I may be paranoid on that one.

Beffen 1

Woof Woof
05-31-04, 01:48
All,

Many thanks first to all those who have contributed to this forum. Your reports and advice have been very helpful in my first adventure into an FKK.

Flew into sunny and warm Frankfurt at 13:00 this past Sat. and checked into the Intercontinental Hotel with a view facing the suspension bridge on the Rhine. The DBB train ride from the airport to Hauptbahnhof was only 3.25 Euros one way. After chilling at the hotel, I took a taxi to Palace for 11 Euros. Got there at around 17:00 and paid the 65 Euros entrance fee. There were about 15 girls and about 10 guys. The girls were on average about 5-7 in looks, nothing outstanding. More girls with some 7-9s in looks started showing up at around 19:00.

Luisa: claims to be from Madrid, 30s-40s, brunette, hair down to ass, unenthusiastic BBBJ, MPCFS, tried to upsell with her toy but I said no thanks. Overall, uninspired service. Chalk this one up as an FKK rookie mistake.

Elvira: Russian fake blonde from Siberia, claims to be a former ballet dancer, 30s-40s, long hair, good BBBJ, MPCFS, extra 50 Euros for CIM. Much better than Luisa also in the personality department. Her English is quite good and she later introduced me to other Russian girls there.

Nadine: Lithuanian blonde goddess, 20s, fake 36D but well done, excellent body, 5'9" tall with hair to shoulders, tattoos on side of lower left leg. Excellent BBBJ, DATY, MPCFS, extra 50 for CIM. For me she clearly stood out among all the girls that evening. Nice personality too.

I also did a tanned blonde from Poland whose name I can't remember. She was in her early 20s, with well done fake boobs. Good BBBJ, DATY, MPCFS.

By this time, I had only just enough left in my tank for one more so I asked Elvira for a recommendation. She introduced me to this 20-something tanned dark blonde with a thick lower body and a well-shaped ass. I think her name was something like Tatiana (?). She said she was from Moscow. Her front teeth could use some work but other than that she has a great personality. Great BBBJ, and awesome doggy. This was my fifth girl of the evening so it took me awhile but she was patient and really got into the long doggy pounding!

By the time I finished with Tatiana(?), it was almost 23:00, things were getting crowded and I was spent so I called it the night. Overall, it was a great first time experience in an FKK. I ended up doing 5 girls with 3-4 providing exceptional service, for a total of 450 euros including the entrance fee and cab fares to and from the Palace. Would I repeat? Hell yes!

Cheers,

WW

Member #1980
05-31-04, 17:21
Beffen1,

I am a "collector" that you described that I fuck many girls each visit and many girls in life. I feel very happy that I can fuck that many beautiful girls in the FKK. In San Fransisco, Mithal Brothers, I fucked a similar quality girl for only 10 minutes for $400 (can do 8 girls in FKK, each 30 minutes). That's why I enjoy fucking at FKK like cracy. Usually I do drive girls crazy for fucking each of them about 30 minutes. But I don't tell them I use Viagra. I pretend to come in the end. I hold ejaculation but still feel several orgazms each 30 minutes. I read from a magazine that man can reach orgazm without ejaculation. I feel that is my case. Unfotunately, I can visit Frankfurt only a very few times a year, twice last year, twice this year so far. Enjoy reading your report!

Member #1980

Euro100
06-01-04, 07:59
Beffer & 1980,

Call me old-fashoined, but getting as many sessions in as possible without finishing seems to me to miss the whole point. My strategy is to go for only three or four encounters on any given visit to the FKKs and then call it a day. But I want to finish each time.

If taking Viagra et al. prevents me from cuming, then this will prevent me from trying it, at least when I am at an FKK. If I wanted to please a women that I love and make here cum as often as possible all night, then I guess that Viagra could help with that strategy. But the girls at the FKKs are pros. They do not want to cum, they just want you to finish. So if neither side wants to finish, that can lead to very unsatisfactory encounters.

But hey, this is what's so great about the FKK scenece: every guy can come in their with his own strategy and will reach his goals.

Enjoy,

Euro

Dedalus
06-05-04, 17:09
Gotta go with Euro 100 on this one. Also many FKK workers try to avoid the guys who obviously pop viagra and try to pound them hard for a full 30 minutes. They will tolerate this if you book an hour session, but otherwise they may avoid you. I have had girls point out to me guys at the clubs who, as they sometimes says are "not knowing how to fuck." meaning those who only use them as a "fuck machine."

By all means use the Viagra (or whatever) but use it wisely. Take your first session without and your second with. Just a suggestion.

There are exceptions to this rule but I have not met too many. Even the top acts.

Also, I have yet to meet a women, (pro or otherwise) who could not tell whether or not a man has cum. That is a whole mess of nerves that they have done there and, condom or not, they can tell. Lying only makes a guy look silly.

Dedalus

Member #1980
06-06-04, 04:17
Hey, do you guy know from reading magazines or experience that man can reach multiple orgasms without ejaculation?

I think we should make girls used to be fucked close to 30 minutes instead of let them make you 1, 2, 3, paying.

I agree with Euro100 that "this is what's so great about the FKK scenece: every guy can come in with his own strategy and will reach his goals". If you don't want to fuck 30 minutes, you can fuck 20 minutes or 10 minutes, then chat with girl for rest of time or simply leave. Most of girls love the later the most. But I think most of man love to fuck longer. In FKK, 30 minutes, in some other countries, I used to fuck girls 1 to 2 hours. That's really fun!

Beffen1
06-06-04, 13:43
interesting comments about being blacklisted as a viagra demon. dedalus and euro 100. i am not a power ficker. my object is to find a gfe rapport with a girl that makes me want to spend an hour or more in her company. most girls want to do longer sessions. member 1980, as for me i have never faked an orgasm with a girl i am paying for sex- i would just feel too silly doing it and trying to hide the empty condom from her afterwards. why bother faking- i payed her. hell, it gives us something to talk about. i just explain that i am on a sex marathon, very tired from travel and multiple girls, etc, and it is meeting all the young hotties and the sex dance itself rather than the finish that is important to me and they should not worry about their performance or reputation. this honesty often leads to an increased rapport with the girls- they view me as a "regular guy' and not a macho man (or maybe a weirdo or a wanker ;-). after this admission, you would be amazed at the stories about the business or their private sex lives the girls give forth, and how many photographs they allow me to take as "souveniers for the heart".

with girls i like, i tend to book one hour or longer sessions, often a lot of that is spent in cuddled dfk conversation and lighter sex play. the truth is, i am not capable of multiple orgasms per day any more, one or two is the norm to maybe three on a really good day. and again the viagra or levitra do not help with orgasms. my first session of the day is often without help and then i go into pharmaceutical stud mode.

also, i do not use the ladies as a fxck machine, unless she is a cold poor provider and then there is definately a "spite fxck" aspect to pounding her until the last second is up :-), but those i don't want to see again. anyway. i am sensitive to signs of fatigue and vary the routine to suit the girl's energy level as well as my own preferences. somehow, we find all sorts of "low-impact" but visually stimulating intercourse positions or other non-coital but still quite horny activities to occupy our all too short time together. one of my favorites is the patented beffen massage using deep tissue methods with the hands and elbows to relax a tired girl, interspeersed with deep orifice probing with the lips and tongue when she least expects it. these massages often take place after our paid session is over and we are "off the clock".

counting the days,

beffen

Catalyst
06-07-04, 02:31
Beffen,

Lounging around with a girl after a session would be nice. I get the impression that it is a possibility for me sometimes, but I am usually reluctant to accept because it makes me uncomfortable not really being sure that I am not going to get an unpleasant surprise at the end when she charges me an extra 50 or 100 for the extra time spent just cuddling. In fact this happened to me once at another club.

I guess it helps to be with a girl who you know, but I usually like to hit every girl in the place, or as many as I can. I guess this is one of the disadvantages of infidelity.

Carnal1
06-07-04, 14:05
Befto 1.

Didn't you have a similar experience with Leona at PHG? Black listing from the girls due to excessive pounding, or in your case maybe too much licking :-)

I can see how this could happen, if your returning day after day, eventually the girls chat with each other and things get around. I am sure that plenty of locals show up to get a few natural shots on goal and these girls probably already know that.

They make their money the same way, just don't get fucked to death by us Americans that over do it on the viagra, ecspecially after say 6 or 7 days of marathon "sport fucking" like we tend to do. My trip to Prague had me in that situation. Three nights in a row at K-5, then World, Palace, and PHG back to back to back had me somewhat insensitive and making it harder to cum but much easier to do my favourite, "sport fucking". My last session in Amsterdam with Nina was more like a dance, alot of eye candy but not much sensation. I never thought I would say something like that.

doog,

Carnal 1 aka Lanrac

Beffen1
06-07-04, 23:02
Hey lanrac (Funny to call you that).

Black listing-no-time management-yes. I think the Leona thing was due to the fact that on my prior visit, when I met Leona for the first time and had three loooong sessions with her in four days, - Leona and I talked alot about a threesome with Sammi but it never happened so that was in her mind. I do go on and on and on and on. Then on the last trip she was really very busy with a lineup of quickie clients so why should she work so hard on poor old relunctant befto. But once Sammi set it up and we were in the room, Leoontje was as sexy, affectionate, fun, smoochie oral princess, dirty girl full on lesbian mynx with Sammi, it really was a topper and each of the three days was better. Switching around and having my attentions divided between the two takes the pressure off of one girl, both of whom has been pounded by one after another guy- then I come along. I'm just glad we found the right combo- I'll always go for the trio with those two- just an unbeatable visual and they "gel" so nicely together. I love making out with two at once and the dual BBBJ- not to be missed by any serious hobbiest IMHO. I have a few tricks for July.

After a couple of days of sixpacks, five packs, etc. I become a desensitized "sex bum" - just keep them poonies coming. It would never happen without those pills. That's why I make four or five day trips.

Another thing about getting to know a girl, its great during down time for her when you meet one of your sweeties in the nachtcafe or the bar or outside and she just wants to relax, have a coffe, and cuddle and get a light massage. She settles in your lap and you get to give her a little pleasure and nibble and knabble on her neck- that's part of GF sex too IMHO.

Doog,

Beffy

Raxxxx
06-08-04, 21:03
Directions to the Palace:

From A-66 get off at the Hausen exit (between A-5 and Miquelallee) at the roundabout take the second street and go straight past the Fischbine Ubahn station and turn right past the Aral gas station, go under the big arch and make an immediate right. turn left into the drive by the green snack bar.

Boofer
06-20-04, 23:39
Went there on the 8th of June @ 11:00 a.m. right after opening and there was a cute busty brazilian girl called stella. Had her a couple of times, once on my own and the second as a double tag with a friend of mine. 8 girls were available and non below 7. Pretty good since it's very close to downtown.

Boofer
06-20-04, 23:52
Forgot to add, there was loads of action in the kino room. It was easy to convince the girls to shag there. At one point in time, two couples were going at it while everybody else was watching Europear soccer games.

Euro100
06-21-04, 04:04
Boofer,

I agree completely: the kino in the Palace is the best that I have ever seen. You can clearly see that the owners invested a lot of thought into decorating the entire Palace interior. As far as the decor and functionality of the Palace interior is concerned, it has no match. (It lacks the outdoor facilities and sufficient parking, though).

I have had a couple of session in the kino, and it does add a certain dimension to the experience. Due to the very bright projection screen, the light is always fairly bright in there. And so you can see anything that anybody else in there does. So the exhibitionists and voyeurs all can have a field day in there.

Why is it so easy to talk the girls into doing it in the kino? I would guess that it also serves as free advertising for them.

By the way, there is also a semi-private area with pillow-covered benches and sofas along every wall, right next to the huge hot tub, at the far end. That room has a conventional tube TV, on which you can watch videos as well. The entrance does not have a door, but only a few strings of beads. So it is not really completely private. I have have had a specially memorably session with Lulu, a real hot babe from Spain, in there. Lulu speaks almost no word of German or English; so chatting was a bit difficult. However, she really got into having at it in the open. And we climbed all over the furniture in there, doing every position that I know.

And then there is the huge bed/sofa that hangs from the ceiling by chains, in the main area, right across from the dancing pole. I have had a very stimulating session with Jessica there.

And then there is the whirlpool, right next to the DJ position, where you can relax and watch the naked female DJ grove to the beat. And the list goes on and on ...

If I had to furnish a place to provide the ideal setting for shagging, I would be hard-pressed to do a better job than the Palace designers have done!

euro

We Coyote
06-24-04, 08:44
Once again I have to say that a lot of people are too hard on this place. When compared with the US or even the red-light district, the energy of a FKKK club is unmatched. I visited here and at the World, and I liked both of them. I did find the girls here more relaxed and I did not like the crowd at the World at all. A number of bikers with Hells Angel’s tattoos, a large group of other guys acting up, versus a very friendly crowd here. I actually spoke with some of the other patrons, and it was very pleasant.

I had two sessions one early afternoon, one later in the evening (I left to do some work and came back without another fee, which was nice). The first girl was great. I am not good with names but the first was a thick girl from Poland. Very nice BBBJ, titie-fuck to completion. Exactly my kind of girl. I found another in the evening who was what I liked physically (I like girls with a good amount of meat on them, just on this side of being fat) this one was a thick Thai girl, which was an interesting combo, but the service was horrible. No BBBJ, and even the CBJ was horrible. Everything was bad. It’s not the club, it’s the girls.

Carnal1
06-25-04, 03:24
After visiting K-5, FKK World, The Palace, and PHG all in successive
evenings I can say that The Palace had the nicest ammenities. World would be second based on the additional wow factor of the size (who says size does'nt matter) that puts it in a league of its own. The Palace is a great accessible option that should be
visited, Reccommended!

PHG is very smoky and quite congested in the locker area and K-5 is a multi-level brothel/bar with some cool touch screen's to help select your date or dates . K-5 exudes more of a gentlemans club/brothel and FKK's are much faster in the multiple session options.

Such choices !

Carnal1 aka Lanrac

Peter
06-28-04, 20:21
@We,

Those bikers are not only guests, they are also the owners.

It is normal at all clubs to get in again on the same day with only one time entrance fee. Just tell them when you are leaving that you are coming back on the same day.

@Carnal,

OK, you told us about the facilities, what was your ranking on quality of girls, and what is your base?

Peter
(Who has yet to be to Palace)

Carnal1
06-29-04, 14:24
Peter,

Ranking the quality of girls would be based on two visits to World, one to The Palace, two at PHG, and three nights at K-5.

Saying all of that, I would rate World as my top spot for quality and quantity, PHG would be a close second and would be first if
the place was big enough to accomodate more girls. The Palace
was very new, in fact I was the first person to post on it in this section. Saying that, it was going thru a few growing pains and was just beginning to attract girls from places like Atlantis which had just been closed down. The Palace will be a very popular place in the future for both girls and guys since it is so centrally located and easy to get to without a car. It is much closer to a club than World is which is both good and bad. Too many people would make it uncomfortable for me, hard to imagine too many people at World since it is so freaking huge. The number of available rooms at World is the only thing that would limit your options. Palace could and probably fills up much faster on buisy nights making it attractive for local girls to make some money. World is a bit of a trip so my guess is that The Palace will eventually have equal billing in the quality department, ecspecially in the colder months.

Just my .02 Euros

Carnal1 aka Lanrac

Peter
06-29-04, 19:58
@Carnal

Usually there are more girls at PHG than at World, even though the place is smaller.

I especially wanted to know about the quality of the girls at K5. I have never been to Prague mongering, but I still haven't seen enough to make me take the plunge. I think I do well in Germany and there is no reason to go to that part of the east. In really poor places like Estonia I have done well, but in a different way, but Prague seems to offer no price advantage and the reports I have read are hit and miss. the escort.cz website has some top lookers though.

Peter

Dedalus
06-30-04, 02:04
peter,

we will have to enligten you on the palace. have a look at your calendar around mid to late july. perhaps.

dedalus,

(who is addicted to cindy and the palace)

p.s. saw a few [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) types on my last visit that may hold some interesse for you.

Travel100
07-03-04, 01:47
Is Palace run by the same owners as Paradise? Or is it a totally different ownership? Is it the same space as where Paradise was and simply remodeled, or is it next door to where Paradise used to be?

Valmont
07-06-04, 13:10
Can anyone provide some detailed directions to Palace from the airport? I'm planning on going to one of the FKK's on the 15th and I know palace or F35 is the closest. Any suggestions, directions? Thanks in advance guys.

V

Novize
07-06-04, 13:49
Valmont,

You start at the airport, driving the A5 northwards, direction Kassel. At "Frankfurt Nordwest" you change to A66 towards Frankfurt. Next exit ist "Frankfurt-Hausen". Take this exit. You turn right (Ludwig-Landmann-Str.), and at the second traffic-light you turn rigght (Am Industriehof). You pass a gas station (ARAL, I believe). After this gas station, take the next street right (Tilsiter Str.). You turn right again at th enext street, that´s "Königsberger Str." FKK-Palace is lefthand, Nr. 23.

It´s about 15 minutes to get there from the airport.

Ortos
07-06-04, 16:40
Palace is very good, but World is a fuck of alot better...about 30 minutes beyond Palace from the airport without traffic.

Directions to Palace: From the airport, drive on to the A5 direction Kassel. Look for signs to the A66. Get on the A66 and take the exit for Miquellalee. Then follow all white/black signs to Hausen. Once in Hausen, look for an Aral petrol station on your right. It has a large blue sign. Just after this petrol station, there is a major right hand turn with a bunch of signs pointing mainly to Industrial area locations, but one of the signs (at the top) points the way to Palace.

By the way: If you decide to go to World, just stay on the A5 from the airport direction Kassel/Giessen. Then get off the at the Fernwald exit. I'm telling you, it is a much higher order FKK experience than Palace, although Palace is very good, esp. because it is virtually in central Frankfurt.


Don't even think about FKK35...I think it's closed anyway.

Good luck.

Novize
07-06-04, 17:04
Ortos,

I called F35 one minute ago. It´s reopenend since June, 1st. I don´t have any additional information, but at least it´s not closed.

I agree to your opinion that FKKW is better than Palace, but at Palace are many women from the closed Atlantis. Some of them are highly praised in the german forums. I.e. Cindy, Carina, Michelle, Miriam, Nadine (in alphabetical order).

Imho the main advantage of FKKW is the great outdoor area.

Food, coffee, massage, hamam: advantage Palace.

So in my opinion the decision depends on the weather.

Ortos
07-07-04, 08:51
I don't want to put Palace down too much, but, for me, at least, the difference between Palace and World extends much beyond the existence of outdoor facilities at World. I find the entire "vibe" at World to be far, far superior than Palace. The sheer number of young, hot girls at World outstrips what you find at Palace. Sure there are some stars from Atlantis at Palace; but you can find the same at World (or even Oase, for that matter). I still believe that as an over all "FKK exeprience" (however you might define that personally), World offers a higher order. The food at Palace is unbeatable though...

Novize
07-07-04, 09:45
I've had great days (and nights) at FKKW, but also very, very poor ones. So, I think it´s a bit of a risk going there, especially if you´re alone. Anyway, it´s my favourite club.

In Palace the atmosphere doesn't vary that much. So, if you like it there, it´s always a reliable option.

Valmont
07-07-04, 09:55
Ok, since I have a car that in the US we call a "POS" (piece of shit), I am probably going to be going to Palace. I will have already driven from K-town to Frankfurt, and I don't want to put too many more km on my car.

Now, second question: Can I get some suggestions of some girls at Palace? You guys listed some of the superstars from Atlantis that are there now, perhaps you could give me some descriptions and suggestions? Thanks again.

V

Novize
07-07-04, 11:43
Novize´s recommendations at Palace:

name: Anjelica
hair: black, short
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, siliconized C/D-breast
origin: russian
born: ~ 1973
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on the right side of her back
service: full pro. range from GFE to hardcore
other: charming, intelligent, good conversation

name: Cindy
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slender, siliconized C/D-breast
origin: polish
born: ~ 1977
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on the right side of her back
service: full pro. no anal. range from GFE to hardcore
other: charming, intelligent, good conversation

name: Diana
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,80 m
figure: slender, siliconized B/C-breast
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1980
tattoos/piercings:
service: full pro. great bbbj-experience
other:

name: Marina
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slim, B/C-breast
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1978
tattoos/piercings: tattoo above back
service: full pro. more hardcore than GFE
other:

name: Michelle
hair: black, long to the hips
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim
origin: german
born: ~ 1977
tattoos/piercings: pierced bellybutton and tongue, tattooed mons veneris
service: full pro. more hardcore than GFE
other: not to be overlooked - and ignored (called "the radio")

name: Miriam
hair: brown, neck-lenght
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: polish
born: ~ 1982
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on the left (?) ankle. range from GFE to hardcore
other:

name: Nadine
hair: blonde, long to the hips
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slender, siliconized D-breast
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1982
tattoos/piercings:
service: full pro. more hardcore than GFE
other:

Ortos
07-07-04, 19:43
Novize,

I don't know when you last saw Angelika, but if we are talking about the same girl (slim, lanky, from Siberia and former star at Atlantis), then you should know she changed her hair colour: Last weekend she was wearing her hair short and light-red coloured.

One question: When I was at Palace last weekend, I saw two Lithuanian young blondes who claimed to be sisters and were trying to sell their sibling package as a threesome. Nadine was across the room, so she was not one of them. Any chance these were Diana and Marina?

Novize
07-08-04, 09:39
Ortos,

Thanks for the info about Angelica. I'll have to change the descrition. It is some time ago, since I met her personally.

I never recognized Diana and Marina claimed to be sisters. If they do so now, it´s a new trick.

Hessen Bub
07-08-04, 09:42
Ortos: You are talking the same girl; A's hair is short and somewhere between black and brown with some red in it.

Marina and Diana selling themselves as sisters? I don't think so, Marina calls Nadine her cousine but who knows?

And there are 2 Dianas at Palace, the one described by Novize was also at Atlantis.

Take a look at the website, Marina and Nadine are not on it but two or three other blondes, maybe you find your sisters there.

Hessen Bub

Novize
07-11-04, 17:04
At Ortos:

The other Diana is very slim, has blond hair and wears braces. As "Diana 1" she is from Lithuania. Perhaps this "Diana 2" is the so-called "sister" of Marina. At least they can be booked for a threesome.

Dedalus
07-11-04, 21:11
Hey guys,

Word is that Diana has really improved as a provider. I went with her once back in April. She was ok but nothing spectatular. In fact, if I were to be really critical, I would say that she was somewhat boring back then.

The last time I saw her at Palace she booked constantly and
I have heard that she has become much more interesting in the room.

Hessen Bub, Novize, perhaps ypu guys have some updated information.

Thanks guys,

Dedalus

Ortos
07-11-04, 21:29
Yes, Novize, you are probably right: this little Lithuanian "sister" was quite thin and young. I wonder whether I missed anything by not trying her...probably did.

Thanks for your insight,

Ortos

Beffen1
07-11-04, 22:08
ortos and i visited palace on 3 july sunday at around 11:30pm. it was very slow, although after i did my two sessions some cute blonde eurobabes appeared from some of the rooms but i left at 2am. i sort of regretted leaving world with ortos at 10 pm , but in the spirit of cameraderie and exploration decided to ride back to frankfurt, knowing i would spend 12 hours at world monday.

despite the lack of eurofarmgirls so abundant at world, i i did eke out two incredible sessions with second tier (looks wise) girls at palace.- first was angelika the slim 30'ish -tiny a cup hard core girl who ortos afterwards informed me was a topper last year at atlantis. angelika was a bit of a wiseass with her broken english- "you look bin laden??" or pepppppy--- my life!" when she found i was amerikanske schwantzke. wet wet slow dreamy kisses from this natasha- look- a like from the rocky and bullwinkle movies. but very sweet and sensual- one of the best slow dreamy kissers and bj artists i ever met- sweet belly kisses and sac and butt muching galore, she is a wild ride as well but angelika did not finish me. angelika's english is fragmented, before we started in the room after about ten minutes of couch action, she wrote on a napkin the pricelist and cracked up as she tried to explain the 50 euro surcharge for facial sprtiz and i said "you mean franzosiche totale" and she laughed and said- ahhhh a sex tourist.!

at 1 am it was still slow, so despite having eaten at world earlier where the food pretty much sucked - noodles with brown gravy was all i saw- with iceberg lettuce salad, eaten along with a ham baquette that ortos luckily suggested we pick up in frankfurt hbf. in contrast, at palace i had a sumptuous dinner- beef stew, potatoes, five diffrerent salads, prosciutto and cheeses, great italian bread, peas and carrots, melon slices. palace has the best food of all the clubs for sure.

after dinner, somewhat disappointed with the lack of euro schoolgirls, i though of going back to world but i was being watched by an exotic coffee colored island girl with c-cup boobs, a sweet face, lilting accent , and charming personality. linda hails from the seychelle isalnds and is 21. after dinner, she sauntered over and engaged me as i sat under the new arabian tent now covering the first group of couches and swinging beds nearest the food on the right as you head to the bar (for you carnalone) . she joined me, we talked, and then we we petted each other and kissed lightly i stroked her smooth skin kissed her luscious lips and sucked her chebs at will we watched the disappointed turkish guy who didn't like the lineup making an ass and a nuisance of himself throwing pillows at the girls, grabbing them as they walked by, and opening his towel and shaking his dick in their direction in a most unstudly fashion. in the locker, the turk asked me for a better place and i gave him rudimentary directions to world- he showed up the next day monday and was better behaved and much more satisfied with the lineup.

linda and i had more than 30 minutes of couch action and because she knew i was full from dinner - "you took two plates baby", she waited. when ortos wandered over to say goodnight linda had me rock hard and ready for action. after my new friend and fkk mentor left to hang out in frankfurt centrum, i stretched the couch action to 45 minutes before i finally took linda to a room. she left to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), for me always a turn off at the start of a session unless she lets me watch. linda privuded full gfe kissing and with wild no hands slamming hard deeeeep throat action. as she gagged she said, who stated "i like my sex, that's why i work here" , another ass licker, very proud of her pussy "its a small one!, its an unusual one". la la la la la. once we got to the fuck, linda proceeded to come loudly, and gutterally in every position we did it in. she inspired me to bang her silly and that i did, after our half hour was done, she showed me just how satisfied she was- i am sooooo wet, you are a fit man for 51- whew whew. fantastic all that for 50 euro and a new nation to add to my listje.

so palace was a bit thin on this sunday when compared to my previous sunday night visit in early may. could it be that many girls are working the outdoor venues for now?

watch for my report of three visits to fkk world soon.

beffen 1

Valmont
07-18-04, 06:23
Went to Palace earlier this week, and I'm sorry for the short report, but I only stayed a short while.

I got there just after the place opened on Thursday. There were about 5-6 girls working, and only one was a looker. Her name was Helena (5-5, shorter brown hair, nice smile, from Minsk in Russia) I walked around and took in the sites for the better part of an hour, since it was my first visit there.

Finally, I got offered a two-girl deal with one of the standard Russian blondes (sorry, can't remember the name) and her "girlfriend". Lo and behold, it was Helena. Great times had by all three of us, and I would definately go back. Palace is a great place.

Dedalus
07-21-04, 17:52
Calling all Frankfurt reader,

Got a question. I will be in FFM tomorrow and am curious to know if Marina might be in the Palace. I will of course call tomorrow, but the last time they told me that she was there, she wasn't. Perhaps Novice or Hessen Bub have some insite in to her Terminplan. I read on the German forum several weeks ago that she was working days during the week. Just wanted to know if this still is the case.

Vielen Dank in voraus,

Dedalus

Dedalus
07-23-04, 10:44
Marina and Cindy were present last night. I think that Cindy may not be there so consistantly during the next few weeks. She was talking about a possible Urlaub.

Marina should be there off and on till the end of August.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Hessen Bub
07-23-04, 17:53
Sorry, I'm too late. Marina is often working on Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays. So I hope you found her.

Hessen Bub, waiting for the report.

Dedalus
07-25-04, 22:14
Thanks Bub,

I will put together a report about my 2 evenings of pleasure in the Palace soon. Suffice it to say that both Cindy and Marina are as limber as ever.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Hessen Bub
07-26-04, 12:02
So, did you book Marina? If so where is the report?

Hessen Bub

Henio
07-27-04, 19:52
Trip report 4 of 6: Palace 23. July.

Arrived at Palace at 23:00 alone this time as my colleagues had other things to tend to. The interior is great, finally something that looks like it can take over where Atlantis left. Identified immediatly few Ex-Atlantis girls. The only drawback is the lack of outside area. I like the fact that you can sit at the bar an have an overview of 70% of the place. Staff is very friendly and the whole package gave me a good feeling. The place still needs a little more activity to compare to Atlantis, but I'm guessing it will get there.

Lillith - Moldavian - A: Very thin but rather tall (over 170 cm). Dark hair. Natural looking girl. We went to one of the small rooms behind the bar as all other rooms were busy. She did a little dance number in the room. Very involved GFE, good bbbj. Nice sex. She is very flexible so you can mold her in many different positions. After first shot, decided to extend to 1 hour session. Asked about anal. She said ok, but if after we started she reserved the right to stop and then I would not have to pay the quoted 100e anal upgrade. It did not come to that as she had no problem.

Elena - Greek - B: Full body. Was not going to do her at first. She came to me while recovering from Lillith and I knew there was no way she would get me going so I did not bother much to ditch her (just told her I just finished a session and would not do another one right now). She kept coming over in every 5 minutes, giving me kisses, playing with my member etc. After a while I felt kind of obligated to return the favour, and was actually starting to like her personality. Her face or body is average. The session was ok with kissing, bbbj, DATY and sex. Accidentaly hit her in the nose with my elbow while moving from DATY. She did a great job of hiding the pain and kept on going. This accident however resulted in longer than average session because my member went immediatly limb as I thought I had really hurt her (it was quite a blow to her nose).

The rooms at Palace are the best I have ever been to in any FKK. All equipped with large fans, large beds and lots of mirrors. Lighting is very good (and versatile) in the rooms. The Sauna is the best one yet and the Kino is even better than at Oase (although it still lacks the same level of activity). You can get 2 types of massage in Palace: Regular and Turkish bath. From what I herd from others (both customers and some of the girls), the Turkish bath massage is great. You get the regular massage from a woman but the Turkish one from a man.

At all the places I met Ex-Atlantis girls (World, Oase and Palace), the ones working at Palace are the ones that are happiest about their new place. They all miss Atlantis and the atmosphere that was there. "It was like a one big familiy with lots of fun. Here it is only boring wait and fuck" said one Ex-Atlantis girl I met at World. Celine had similar things to say about Oase. The Ex-Atlantis girls working at Palace seem to really like the place, but say that it needs a bit more activity and fun element to it.

Henio
07-27-04, 20:11
Trip report 5 of 6: Palace 24. July.

Arrived with 3 colleagues (same as mentioned in reports from Oase and World and I call X, Y and Z). We arrived at 19:00. The selection was a little thinner than last night, but girls were still comming in (they can arrive until 20:00, but after that, they are not let in).

Gina - Polland - C: Great body (one of the best ones in the place). Nice looking face. Excellent tits (just the right size and firm). I usually follow Isseue advice about selecting based on personality and look in girl's eyes, but this one was just so damn hot that I had to have sex with her. The session was rather quick, uninspired and her personality was boring. Did not get any conversation going. Her English was rather bad and I was never able to break the ice. But her damn nice tits made up for a lot.

"no name" from Dominican Republic - B: Colleague Z did her and gave her a pretty good review. Nothing spectacular, but would repeat.

Joy from Thailand - B: Three of us did go with Joy (one at a time).This one is very hard to give grade. One might give her A based on personality and involvment, but C based on body and face. This girl is fun to be around, and gives a good blowjob, plays with your ass a lot (even gave colleague Y a prostate massage). Her nipples are the strangest ones I have seen and for me a bit of a turnoff (extremely large but thin where they attach to the breast). I would repeat, but not right away. We agreed to a grading of B. Later, Joy was ready to talk a lot and acted like an old friend on later visit. Very nice girl with an outgoing personality. Speaks good English.

A note on the high heel thing: Girls at Palace are required to were the high heels. I wish they wouldnt, it makes many of them look ridicoulus, especially those who cannot walk on those bloody things. Do you guys know if the same rules apply to the other clubs i.e. are they required to were those things?

Henio
07-27-04, 21:01
Trip report 6 of 6: Palace 25. July.

Arrived at the club around midnight. Was prepared for slim pickings as Sundays are usually not very good for FKK'ing. I was pleasantly surprised. At least 15 girls working, but very few customers and the atmosphere was extremely relaxed. took a seat at the bar and was approach by a girl who I later found out to be the famous Ex-Atlantis girl Angelika.

A quick note: I really did not start to read the content of this board cerefully until a few months ago (just browsed through the material). In my trips to Atlantis, I was therefor unaware of the favourable reviews this girl has got. I'm happy to inform that they are all true. This girl is just great. I remembered her look from Atlantis, but totally unaware that this was Angelika.

Angelika sat with me at the bar knowing that I just got in and was not going to commit to a session right then and now. She gave me a lot of light touching and was very playful without putting any pressure on going to a room at all. At this time, I do not know her name. After about a half a hour, I'm ready to go to a room and decide that this girl will be the lucky one. As we lay down, I mention that I remember her from Atlantis and tell her so. "I miss Atlantis" she says. "Yeah, me to" I say. She looks at me kind of strange and says "no, really, I miss Atlantis two times". Stupid me takes a while to understand that she is telling me she was voted miss Atlantis two years in a row, but all of a sudden I get it and now I realized I had not asked her for her name. "Angelika" she says. "Oh, you are the famous Angelika" I say. "Yeah, I'm like a moviestar" she said laughing.

She gets an A+ for everything she does. The ultimate GFE, extremely sensual with her hands and mouth. Likes to cuddle afterwards and will not hurry you in any way, not before, during or after. She has very short black hair with some highlights on top. Not the greatest looker in the place, but for sure one of the greatest performer. Not to be overlooked (I had dismissed her the two previous evenings). Sex was great and ended with CIM. She played a bit with the cum pornstar style, having it drip down her chin.

Jermaine - German - B: Short dark hair, DD breasts, unusual much hair on pussy (but it is like silk when you touch - not unlike an Asian pussy). I had had a fun conversation with Jermaine the previous night and decided to sit with her now and see if we would get some kind of chemistry going. Laid next to her for about an hour just talking, giving her light massage and gentle touching. No pressure to go to room. She speaks excellent English and is a lot of fun to talk to. She just started at Palace 3 days ago (she's the one who told me she had to wear the high heals). Ended up having a very good session with her. She prefers to to cbj instead of bbbj. I did not push the issue (I'm okay with cbj ones in a while). I asked her before we started the session what her likes and dislikes were and she told me she does not take it up the ass (touching ok) and prefers to use condom during bj so I knew before I committed to the session.


Final note: I had a lot of fun during the trip discovering the girls true nationality. I do this by listening to their dialects when talking to other girls and also by talking about the country thing with the more honest girls. This is what I found out:
1: There are a lot of Romenian girls working at the FKKs. Very often they claim to be from Italy or Spain, and even from Czheck Rep.
2: Many of the German girls are aware of the bad reputation they are getting on the boards. Many of them have changed nationalities to Polland, Czeck Rep and Russia
3: Girls from Jamaica, Dominican Republic and Bahamas are usually from Africa.
It is not a big deal for me where the girl is from. This just something I have fun figuring out.

Chivaz's rating of the clubs (note that I have not visited other FKK clubs):

1. Palace
2. Oase (close second)
3. World
4. Flamingo Island

That concludes Chivaz's round of FKK's for the time being.

Over and out

Chivaz

Dedalus
07-28-04, 12:01
Palace, 23 July 28, 2004

My visit to Palace was laced with a purpose: Seek out Cindy and Marina.

Other priorities: Find the famous Michelle (German version) and maybe Nadine (Blond, Babewatch-type babe.

Arrived a Palace around 7:00 PM. The list of ladies that were present was respectable but not overwhelming. Carina, Angelika, MARINA, and a few other familiar faces who I do not know by name. No sign of Cindy. Arrgh!! After changing, getting a liquid refreshment from the bar, and enjoying a few low-calorie cigarettes I started to focus on Marina, who was, as always occupied with some lucky chap. I knew that she would be busy for at least 30 min. so I dug in for the wait.

Then I spotted her. Cindy came around the corner in all her naked glory. Mamma mia, she is a site to behold. For those of you who do not know her, she is a blond bombshell with an amazing hour-glass body. Grandiose breasts that fit her body type perfectly. Her long, luscious legs are stupendous. In addition to all of these strong accoutrements she has the charming ability to make you feel like you are the only man in the room. Those who have been with her will vouch for me.

I got up to make my move but somebody was quicker than I was. Mist! Cindy would probably be “dauergebucht” that evening. Getting to her would involve laying in wait.

30 min. later I caught her as she was going to change and freshen up. She told me that she would be out in a sec. and that she would come find me. After a few minutes wait she led me to the larger swinger couch for a bit a heavy petting and a chat. On my last visit to Palace I could not get on her dance card but sat next to her while she was charming some English-speaking dude. Her Englischfähigkeit is quite good and I took the chance to compliment her. We speak German with each other but I love the accent with which she speaks English. Very sexy! She told me that she might be away for a short vacation soon. (Probably this week.)

After a little more small talk she led me to the Kino for a bit more intimacy. As we nestled onto a mattress with enough Abstand from the others present, she undid my towel and started to rub her luscious body all over mine. Heaven on earth, my friends. She kisses long and slow. She knows her craft very well. She started to display her expert blowjob technique. It was hard not to notice the stares of the envious other males who started to come into the room. I have no real problem with this but after several minutes of enjoying this lady’s attention I notice some guy who decided that he wanted to get a little closer to the action come and sit right next to me. A bit too close for comfort really. Cindy sensed that it was time to move our love fest to a more intimate atmosphere.

We found a nice room with plenty of mirrors to satisfy whatever Narcissistic needs that either if us might have. She continued her body on body massage and gave me an incredible tit-fuck. Knowing how sweet the nectar of her Mons Venus tasted, I maneuvered her into a 69 position. Unable to control myself much longer, I had her slip on a condom and she began to wildly ride me. What a creature! She really gives you the impression that she loves what she is doing. After flipping her over into a missionary position she wrapped her long legs around me and we continued making the “beast with two backs” for several more exquisite minutes until I gave way and came.

Not feeling rushed at all we lay together, talking and cuddling for awhile longer. What more can I say. She is really a stunning woman.

50 euros for approx. 35 Minutes. Money well spent.

More soon to come.

Dedalus

Fats
07-30-04, 06:34
The Palace on a Thursday evening and a Monday evening.

A few weeks ago I was in Frankfurt and was able to get to the Palace twice. On the first day, Thursday, there were plenty of customers and plenty of women. The club had a party like atmosphere and Angelique was my first of the day.

Angelique is the deepest DFKer I've ever had at any club. There is never any rushing and she's not satisfied until you are. The only down side is that communication can at times be touchy as her English is so-so. We spent the first 15 minutes making out like a couple of teenagers. She was on top and and as soon as I was hard, she started grinding her hips. She seemed to sense when our dry hump was about to get wet and slid down to start a BBBJ. Here she also shines as she understands that the family jewels are just as important as the rest. She likes to take one ball at a time in her mouth and work it over with that magic tongue. Again she continued until I was just about to cum and she stopped and put on a condom. She likes doggy so we started that way before switching to cowgirl which I like. We finished by having her lie on her stomach and dry humping between her ass cheeks until I unloaded on her back. All this for a mere 50 Euros.

Between Angelique and the jet lag, I needed to rest for a while before looking for the next girl so I took a short nap in the Kino room. When I came out they were puting out the buffet so a snack was in order. The buffet itself was very nice and the way some people seem to attack the food is a sight to see in its own right. Think hyenas. The last I had read about Marina was that she had moved on to Oase so was I suprised when she came out of a room with another girl and four guys. I've heard of sloppy seconds but I was about to become an (at least) sloppy fifth.

She needed a break after her marathon session but promised she'd see me later. She grabbed some food from the buffet and went into the back room by the first bar. About 30 minutes later she came out and off we went to a room, except they were all full so we started on one of the couches near the entrance to the rooms across from the kino. We had progressed from DFK to BBBJ and she was reaching for a condom when another couple walked by and we took the room they had just left. After we had the towels down and she had taken off her shoes, our rhythm was broken so we started over from the top. DFK leading into 69 which was not practical on the couch. After multiple positions the condom came off for some more 69 and then she asks if I want to cum in her mouth. Who am I to say no? She put her mouth directly over and swirled her tongue around me like she was liking a lolly pop while I jerked off. As I started to cum she closed her mouth around me and took every drop. All this from a girl with a body to die for. I asked her about Oase and she said everyone there was mean to her (both management and the other girls) but she liked the Palace and missed Atlantis.

After Marina I wasn't really looking for anyone else but I saw Patrizia and went over to just say hi. After talking for a while she said her pussy was tired and if I wanted to go to the room with her it would have to be with her and another girl. I made that mistake with her once as the other girl is for her pleasure, not mine. I bowed out and left as it was now getting late.

Monday was a whole different story. There were very few customers and fewer woman also. There was just very little going on and the place felt dead. Angelique was the only woman there I knew so, as usual, she was my first for the day. Thirty minutes later I was a sweating quivering mass of contentment.

The only other girl of the day was Isabel. She is German and on most of the pictures in the gallery section of the Palace's website, she is in the middle of the front row. She has a heart shaped ass which should be one of the wonders of the world. Her English is not great but it is possible to have a rudimentary conversation. She suggested going to the Kino room and we ended up staying there for the whole session. She does French kiss but not with abandon. Her BBBJ was also reserved. As it turned out, just about everything she did had the feeling that she was holding back a bit. I've been with other women like this who get better and better each subsequent time as they become more comfortable with me. On the other hand, some stay reluctant no matter how many times I've seen them. I'll go with her again to find out which category she falls into as she seems to have real potential.

Had Cindy, Michelle, or some of the other all stars been around it could have been better but the unexpected visit with Marina was worth the trip.

Gamma Ray
07-31-04, 00:59
I'm planning on paying a visit to Palace or Oasis in a week or so . . . here's my dilemma: I don't want to actually have sex, but have something like a up-close-and-personal pussy show. Is there any FKK location that is especially friendly to lookers? I.e., someplace where toy shows are a speciality, etc. Any suggestions appreciated!

Hessen Bub
07-31-04, 17:49
Gamma Ray,

If you pay for the action it should be no big deal to get you satisfied in Palace or Oase. Just ask the girl who's looks you like best.

Hessen Bub

Dadou29
07-31-04, 19:31
Hi everyone,

I'm planning to go to Germany next week. As the weather is hot and sunny, which FKK should I choose : World, Palace or Oase ? (number of girls and outside facilities)

Peter
08-01-04, 14:14
GR and HB,

I am not sure whether a dildo show is possible in FKK's. I have never seen girls who carry dildo's with them in FKK's. I have seen a lot of rooms in the RLD's that have arrays of dildo's specially for shows. Since it is not my cup of tea, and since I have never met anyone who went to an FKK but didn't want sex, it is tought for me to give a more qualified answer. You can pay for a lesbo show though, I do know that that is possible with a lot of the girls.

Dadou,

Oase or World are both excellent in good weather. It's a toss up and depends on the talent on that day, which cannot be predicted. I would pick whichever one is more convenient to get to.

Peter

Hessen Bub
08-01-04, 18:09
Peter,

GR asked for a "up-close-and-personal pussy show". Does this mean a dildo is a must? I know some girls (latinas) carrying smaller and bigger vibrators with them and also knowing how to use them.

Just ask, it doesn't cost a penny.

Hessen Bub

Bruce Ley
08-01-04, 18:11
Peter,

I once met a Japanese guy on business (probably early 30s) who said he didn't fuck any of the girls there. I thought he was bullshitting (and so did many of the girls when I told them about him) but I really did see him sitting in one corner the whole time, sippin' on the same beer and just ogling the girls. He said he had a girlfriend back home, and that was hi reason for 'just looking'. I thought he was crazy for driving all the way out here from Frankfurt where his hotel was, just to watch the girls, but I guess he takes his relationship very seriously.

Bruce

Traveling Male
08-02-04, 22:24
**Report below**

Gamma, When you go to a room with a girl, you pay 50 Euro for half an hour, what you do with the time I think is up to you. I personally like to watch the girl more than fuck her, especially goddess type women, and I have some of my own fetishes that I got to explore inside the rooms of the FKK, Here is one:

Last June in PHG, I saw a beautiful dominant type blonde standing at the bar, talking to her girlfriend with a cigarette in her hand. All my attempts to make eye contact with her failed, so I finally approached her, and tried to talk to her in English, she talked back in German, so I realized she doesn't speak English. But the way she carried herself pushed all of my submissive buttons, she was more of the deep eye stare with a dominant personality, and a tall, model type body. When she stares at you, you'd think you're the only person that exists in that room, and when she ignores you, you think you never exist. So I asked if we can go to a room, and was hoping she would say yes, I guess her dominant attitude just got me so scared that she would refuse to see me, but maybe it was just my own imagination experiencing a flash back of the many similar incidents in L.A.'s night clubs ;) except in those incidents, it never got beyond my initial Hello!

Anyways, we finally got to a room, and I was already feeling the tingling in my body from what's to come, She put towels on the bed, asked me to set on the towels and started blowing me, I really wanted to switch around the whole situation, so I stopped her, made her set with me on the bed, I asked her age, she said she was 30, green eyes, very nice body, and really had a very sexy look in her eyes, extremely sexy that all I wanted to do was to jerk myself off while staring at her eyes. I stood about 5 feet away from her while she stood up on her high heels looking at me surprised, it was day time, so I could get a good look at her gorgeous tall naked body, big round tits, long legs, tight stomach, an extremely hot German golden tan, long blond hair, and round wide open green eyes. She kept looking at me a bit surprised with a solid face, no smile, and the time, she had never blinked even once.

The way she looked at me melted me, almost caused me to cream in my towel when I first got a look from her by the bar. I kept staring at her without saying a word for almost 10 minutes. silence was causing me to experience intense moments. I asked her to turn around and face the wall, she slowly did, Her ass was arching as she leaned against the wall with both hands up. I felt like I was in a room with a porn model while she was getting a photo shoot done. I sat on the floor looking at her from below, she would turn her head and stare down at me with her killer eyes, while her ass was completely in my face, high heels lifting her arch up. we did that for a while, no touching, extreme bondage moment, then she turned around again, leaned her back to the wall, crossed her feet, put her hand on her hip, asked if she can smoke a cigarette, I said of course, she lit her cigarette, and started blowing away smoke in the most sexy way I've ever seen, all while staring down at me as I was jerking my self off, I was 5 feet away from her with the biggest hard on I've ever had. Her wild amazon eyes never left mine, as she smoked, and just like that, I shot the biggest load in her direction, arriving inches at the floor near her heels.

It took us a whole hour, but at the end, I've had one of the biggest orgasms in my life, even though we never really had any sex, just the thought of having access to this model, breathing the same air I breath, standing only a couple of meters from me, was what I needed, impossible in the U.S., so I had to let all the pressure come out somehow in an alternative kind of way.

In PHG a half an hour costs 25 Euro, so my whole experience cost me 50 Euro... a very cheap price to pay to Indulge yourself... and get these fantasies out... before flying back to sexual prison, where tease is all around, but relief is never in sight.

All the best,

Traveling male

Peter
08-03-04, 20:12
Hessen Bub,

I read the post again, and you are right. I just thought a decent pussy show included decent penetration.

Travelling Male,

Interesting story, but you could have had more than just being in her presence, you could have been in her.

I am surprised that the cost for that would have been 50€. I am assuming the BJ she started was uncovered, which would mean the session should have been 75€.

Gamma Ray,

If you are getting a Pussy show at PHG you should have the decency to pay the whole 50€ fee for the first half hour. She is not blowing you without a condom, but she is showing you something very intimate.

Bruce Ley,

There are a lot of guys who go to clubs and don't have any sex, but they generally don't go to the rooms at all. At PHG there are qute a few customers who come up to 3 times a week just to drink and meet friends and treat it as a all you can drink bar with a cover charge of 50€. I meant I have never met anyone who goes to a room in an FKK without wanting sex, although the more I think about it the more I can think of examples where it happens.

Peter

Traveling Male
08-03-04, 21:52
Peter, You are right, the BJ was covered, so that's how it amounted to 50 Euro. One of the things I'm concerned about when in these clubs is safety, so I always insisted on covered BJs.

Also, Prior to my session with her, I've had sex with many other girls, and by then, I was seeking a different kind of experience, and money wasn't an issue, so I thought I can spice things up a little with some visual memories. The funny thing was that out of all the sessions I had during my 4 days visits last June, this one stood up as the most memorable experience by far. maybe because it involved so much visual and mental stimulation, and that tends to last longer in your mind than physical stimulation.

Im coming back again in September, and this time, I'm going to explore more of this side of me. A little variety is always good in life, after all, isn't that why we all can't seem to keep it only to one woman? lol

Life is good,

Traveling Male

Boeing747
08-09-04, 06:19
Hi,

I will be visiting FRANKFURT later this month and wish to enjoy the experience at palace (which so far, from the reports i have read, sounds unbelievable).

However I have certain inhibitions:

How safe is it in terms of STD's etc as I keep reading reports of girls giving BJ'S without condoms and french kissing? Are the girls tested regularly?

I have read that the number one carrier of any disease is through body fluids (like saliva, semen, etc). Thus I would appreciate it if someone gives me honest and sincere information about the safety.

Thank You

Optimist
08-09-04, 13:52
A last comment oin the discussion about going to the rooms and no sex.

I can confirm that sometimes people do go and don't have sex. Basically you are paying money to the girls for time and if you don't want sex that's up to you. I recently spent three hours with Ambra at World and didn't have sex - and then went back for another hour with no sex. I just enjoyed talking to her.

When with Andrea at World there was also a two hour session with no sex - simply because she didn't feel like it on that particular occasion (I always left the choice to her).

So - anything goes

Carnal1
08-09-04, 14:35
Mr. 747,

Not that this will help your anxiety, but, I have been to The Palace, PHG, World, K-5, Privats, etc, and have yet to catch one STD. I just had some minor surgery, had multiple blood tests that surely would have indictated any problems. I am ready for more !

It's your life so do what you want !

Carnal1

GandJim
08-09-04, 15:01
Boeing747,

Tons of information in the WSG Special Interests forums, in particular the Oral Sex and the Safe Sex ones. Just have a look there.

Jim

Member #1980
08-10-04, 11:48
I have been in Rio's thermas, FKK (atlantis, world, PHG, Palace, OASE), k-5, Thailand, Amsterdam, many times and fucked more than 1000 prostitutes, and still std and hiv free. Several blood tests including for life insurence company demonstrated. I usually lick and suck pussy extensively and let girl do bbj and dfk.

Stiff6
08-10-04, 17:37
Hi guys,

In September I'll probably have a looong morning stopover at Frankfurt airport that would allow me to go to Palace between 10:00 and 12:00 on a Friday.

Has any of you guys ever been there that early? What can I expect in terms of quantity and quality of girls?

Thanks for your comments!

Stiff6

Mucky Duck
08-10-04, 19:19
Hello Gents,

I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt in a couple of days and looking forward to sampling, at least once, the delights on offer at The Palace. I got just one question. Never having been in a club of this type, what is the atmosphere like? Is this a place where both the guys and the girls walk around naked ala a swing club like Plato's Retreat waiting to get it on, or just the girls? Many thanks for your anticipated replies.

Novize
08-11-04, 12:51
Stiff,

10:00 to 12:00 is the worst time to visit a club. I think the best advice is: stay away!

When I visit a club that early, I just go there to relax, stay longer and postpone the action to a later hour. There are only few girls available, and most of them are tired, want to have breakfast or something else.

So, if you can´t stay longer at Palace, save 65 €.

Carnal1
08-11-04, 14:32
Stiff 6,

Thanks for the info on Vienna, now I can return the favor !

I wandered into the Palace around 13:00 on a Friday afternoon
and found about 10 girls working the day shift. Not a great selection that early but a helll of a lot better than sitting in the airport. I had just spent the night before at World FKK and
was taking it easy at my hotel in anticipation of heading to the Palace that night. Walking around Central Frankfurt is nothing special. I wandered around for a few hours and decided that I would rather be sitting in a club with naked girls sauntering around instead of walking aimlessly thru the Central Business District.

Even thou the number of girls was low, it was a good experience
just sitting in the large Jacuzzi, taking a sauna, and then watching the parade of lovely women walk in one by one as the
afternoon progressed. You can always catch a movie in the Kino :-)

N-Joy,

Carnal1

Hessen Bub
08-11-04, 16:55
@Stiff6:

This in my opinion is the worst time to go to Palace. Very few girls on shift, especially with these temperatures (it's hot in Germany) and no outdoor facilities.

During the day I prefer Oase or FKK-World, Palace is great in the late afternoon or evening.

"Quality" of girls IMHO is much better at night-shift.

Hessen Bub

Henio
08-11-04, 18:12
Never been to Palace early but on my last visit to Palace, when leaving, one of the girls working the counter suggested that we could arrive early, have breakfast/brunch at Palace, and then return again later during the day/evening.

I know that most clubs allow you to leave and come back, but this was the first where someone actually encoureged us to do so. Guess they might be trying to get some traffic for the girls early on. Nothing beats a fine pussy with your breakfast :-) and the breakfast is of course included in the admission fee.

btw: In my opinion the staff at Palace is the friendliest of all the FRA vicinity clubs

Chivaz

Stiff6
08-11-04, 19:23
Hessen Bub and Carnal,

thanks for the information - it seems that on this trip I don't have much choice regarding time or place, but in October I will!

Carnal I think you are right that it's definitely better than sitting at the airport and I'll give it a try! Thinking about it: Why has actually noone opened an FKK club directly at the airport yet? They'd be full all day round with weary travellers like you and me! :-)

Stiff6

Traveling Male
08-11-04, 22:24
** Morning Sex at the Palace Report below **

Stiff6,
Sorry this is a month and a hlaf old experience I had, but I thought it could be helpful to since you asked the question about morning experience in the Palace.

There was a hot girl in the Palace that I saw around 11:00 AM last June who told me she enjoyed sex in the morning more than any other time, so she would always starts her shift early.
She is a hot brunet from Poland, sorry I forgot her name :( , but she was about 5'5", very nice petite body, I'd give her an 7.5~8 on looks. I saw her ass first in the Kino while getting a bJ from a German blond. Her ass was high in the air on the upper stairs in the Kino, while she was blowing her guy at the time. It was a prefect site, I was being blown by the blond I was with, while watching her ass as she slid her mouth up and down on him, then she was turned around into missionary, and she made first eye contact with me while she was getting fucked, what a sexy face! She obviously liked being watched, and made lots of pleasure noises.

I started thinking, I really want to do that girl! by then, my girl started riding me cowgirl style, and in a few minutes later I came with her on top of me. I gave my girl her 50 E, showered, went and had some breakfast, then went back to the same spot in the Kino hoping to see the brunette, but she wasn't there. By then there were at least 7-9 girls in the club, and maybe about 3-4 guys.

10 minutes later in the Kino, she appeared looking for her next prey, and even though I just unloaded, I was still tingly and turned on by the visual stimulation from watching her get fucked earlier, so when she showed up, I was already half way in my fantasy about her, and boom, fantasy turns into reality :) and she is sitting next to me! She started playing with me, then slipped her hand under my towel and started running her hand on mr Happy, feeling how hard I was by then, she immediatly opened my towel and started giving me a nice CBJ (I always insist on CBJs, although the 50 E would include BBBJ) I was so turned on by her that I almost came from the CBG alone after less than 2 minutes! so stopped the action and turned her over and fucked her missionary in the same spot she was fucked in an hour ago. I was going slow because I didn't want to finish so quick, and she really seemed to enjoy it, which didn't help me trying to hold on longer! So I turned her on her knees and hands for doggie, so I can take off some of the pressure of seeing her sexy eyes and body, at which point the site of her arched up ass facing me made me lose it! so I exploded inside of her. We did the whole session in the Kino.

Since we still had plenty of time left, we sat afterwards and talked. She told me she is a student who is planning a trip to South America later this year, and that she was saving some money for her trip. She also told me she loved sex in the mornings, and that's why she likes to come early, and that she doesn't do the evening shifts. I gave her my mobile number in the U.S. for a possible meet up here someday.

I'd give her a 8 on looks, a 9 on attitude, and a 9.5 on sexiness.

That was my first time at the palace. Good luck! and don't forget to report back here about your experience if you wind up going there that early.

All the best,
Traveling Male

GandJim
08-12-04, 09:15
Mucky Duck,

In general, girls walk around naked, guys have just a towel.

There are sometimes special events like "Dessous night" (August 27), "Leather&Polish night" (in October), etc... where girls are not totally naked. Check with the club for the night(s) you intend to come.

Jim

Boeing747
08-12-04, 17:02
Hi,

I was just wondering i someone could tell me what is the best and most economical way to get to PALACE from the FRANKFURT INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.

Also do you have to carry you own condoms or they provide you?

Lastly is the area around the PALACE safe to roam round at night or not?

Thank You.

If any on could also give tips on ho to ngotiate with the girls etc please let me know, it is my first time and i am excited(and a touch nrvous)

Euro100
08-14-04, 02:59
747:

Most economical way to get to the Palace: you walk ;-)
Seriously, though: take a train from the Terminal A building at the airport to the "Hauptbahnhof" (= main train station). Then take a taxi; they are conveniently located right outside the train station building.

happy humping
euro

Euro100
08-14-04, 03:21
747:

Oops, sorry, forgot to answer your other questions:

> Also do you have to carry you own condoms or they provide you?
No, you don't. They provide all condoms. But if you want to bring your own, tha tis usually fine, too.

> Lastly is the area around the PALACE safe to roam round at night or not?
Yes, pretty safe. But why the heck would you want to? This is just a residential/light industrial area. No real attractions outside the walls of Palace.

> If any on could also give tips on ho to ngotiate with the girls etc please let me know, it is my first time and i am excited(and a touch nrvous)

Well, everyone had his first time once. We all were somewhat nervous. But once you are inside the place, this will all go away very fast.

Here are some pointers:
1. When you enter, the girl who takes your entrance fee will ask you if you have been there before. You should say no! They will not send you away or try to take advantage of you. But she or some other girl will give you a tour and tell you about the standard practices.

2. Negotiations: easy! 50 euro for each half hour. Start with a half hour session. For your first time, I predict you will shoot off your load very quickly. (You need to negotiate for extras, usually 50 euros each for things like anal, or coming in their mouth, or tit-fuck to completion). Uncovered blow job ("BBBJ") is included in the 50 euro price for the first half hour.

3. Iron rule: once a girl has your dick in her mouth, it is understood that you will spend at least 50 euro on a session with her.

4. All the food is free. Non-alcoholic drinks as well. And talking to the girls is free. You enjoy yourself more if you do, and if you smile a lot at them.

5. It is perfectly alright for them to approach you; and it is also alright for you to turn them down. What works best is to tell them that you just arrived, or that you are still recovering from your last session. "Maybe later" leaves a lot of options open for both of you.

6. Enjoy the facilities for the first hour after you arrive. Do not go to a room with a girl right away. Look around, check out who is there, get yourself comfortable. Get a drink form the bar, take a seat, observe a while. Enjoy the naked gorgeous female bodies around you. Ogling is a big part of the fun!

7. Many are, at first, apprehensive about walking around with only a towel on their rump and sandals on their feet. But quickly you will see that you are by far not the ugliest or oldes or shortest or baldest or hairiest or whatever guy in the house. Everybody has a good time, no matter what their bodies look like.

8. Towels: take a new one frequently. I's included in the entrance fee.

9. Most important: take a shower (with soap!!!) right after you enter, and after every session, or after you take a shit. Here and there a guy walks around and stinks. This guy does not need to wonder why he is not getting any action.

Now go get 'em! We expect a full report; it's always enjoyable to read about a guy having his virgin FKK experience.

euro

Member #1980
08-14-04, 03:21
GandJim,

Could you tell more about "Dessous night" (August 27)? I will be in the area, and might go.

Thanks

1980

Ortos
08-14-04, 06:09
I have to agree with all or most of what Euro says, but actually the MOST economical way to get to Palace from the airport is:

1. S-bahn from Flughaven to Hauptbahnhof;

2. U-bahn to Industriehof (stop in Hausen) then walk five minutes to Palace. If memory serves you have to take the U6, which can be accessed through Hauptwache. So from Hauptbahnhof, you have to take any U-bahn or S-bahn heading into the city centre south, then change to U6 at Hauptwache. If you are going direct from the Airport to Palace, then the very S-bahn that takes you from the Airport to the Hbf. may well continue on to Hauptwache (2 stops beyond Hbf.), so, in this case, you may not wish to exit the train at the main Hauptbahnhof stop.

Anyway this is a bit cheaper than taking a taxi, but given that a taxi is approx. 10Euros only from Hauptbahnhof, we are only talking about a difference of 7-odd Euros?

Don't be nervous. Just do it! You'll be a natural...

Peter
08-14-04, 10:51
Don't Negotiate. The prices are fixed. You can ask the girl at the door what the prices are.

I just want to make sure that the foreigners don't get the reputation of certain other ethnic groups for haggling with the girls. The prices are fair and open, stick with them. If guys try to cheat the girls then there it is fair for the girls to try the same the other way around. Stick witht he established prices. That is what makes FKK's so great.

Peter

GandJim
08-14-04, 11:32
Yep, prices are fixed, which also means don't give tips. If you're satisfied with the girl, just extend the session for another 1/2 hour or more, or take her again later, but don't give tips. Locals don't give tips and, "in Roma, do as the Roman do".

Hessen Bub
08-14-04, 17:52
Locals do give tips sometimes. But they also do get special prices on longtime session sometimes. Anything can, nothing must. But don't try to negotiate ...

Hessen Bub

Cachorro
08-14-04, 22:46
Hi Boeing, I´m sure you´re gonna love the FKKs.

The only thing you´ll need to negotiate is when you really want certain things in the session, and you are not sure if she does them. Best to check before you start, that way you avoid disappointment during the session.

My report from Palace on Wednesday

1) Angel (Germany). Has only recently joined the FKK, before she was working as an escort. She has a pretty good attitude, and good to talk with. I was happy with this session.

2) Diana (Lithuania). I was kind of disappointed. Diana knows how to talk sexy, and puts on a good performance. But I got the feeling she just wants to turn over the session as quickly as possible. I felt like I was in Amsterdam... "how much time do you want? can you come now?" after only about 10 minutes in the room. I think she knows she is in demand, and wants to do a lot of business and not work too hard.

This session ended up with her completely disengaging and staring off into space, while I just carried on for a few minutes and used her as a fuckdoll. She has really nice legs, but breasts are very artificial feeling. I can normally get a pretty good relationship with the girl, even though I don´t speak German, but Diana was the exception.

3) Linda (Seychelles). She is an awesome girl, I was ecstatic with this session. It was energetic, passionate sex, which is great for me. We both ended up dripping with sweat and completely satsified. Linda is mulatta which is pretty much my ideal type. She gives an excellent BBBJ.

Hessen Bub
08-15-04, 09:18
"2) Diana (Lithuania). I was kind of disappointed."

@Cachorro: There are two Dianas at Palace, both from Lithuania. Which one did you have? The blonde tall longhaired barbie-like one or the smaller one with the braces?

Hessen Bub

Cachorro
08-15-04, 11:21
I was with the tall long-haired Barbie one. I am guessing I chose the wrong Diana?

Hessen Bub
08-15-04, 15:24
I'm not quite sure wether you chose the wrong Diana or not. I've had neither of them but friends have hat good sessions with both of them.

Hessen Bub

Zarkoff
08-17-04, 09:21
Went there for the first time last night (okay, who all was there????). It was really a great time. As previously reported, easy to find, front entrance lady gives you the rules and a quick tour, the ladies are all beautiful and its lots of fun.

I took the U-bahn (U6) to Industriehof. Its MAYBE a 3 minute walk. You can Google for a map of Frankfurt and find the street very easy, or its on any Frankfurt map. U-Bahn is 2 Euro from the Hauptbahnhof.

I spent probably three hours here. Girls are very friendly and easy to talk with. After almost an hour of looking, relaxing, and enjoying the sights I struck up a conversation with the biggest titted lady in the place. I'd watched her for several minutes and decided I'd wait until she was finished with a client as I wanted her for my first lady. Wow, it was worth the wait! Her name is Jermaine (previouisly mentioned here) and she is super! Maybe 5'6", short dark hair, tattoo on her left shoulder (scorpion) and her outside right ankle (heart & rose). Wears a kartouch on a large gold chain. Speaks English very well, is German, and is a lot of fun to talk with and enjoy. She says she has breast reduction surgery (Holy Crap, Batman!) and you can just barely see some scars. Further "probing" revealed they were the real deal and not fake as far as I could tell, so I guess she's really had them reduced. We enjoyed a lot of CBJ, DATY, cowgirl, and mish. She wasn't up for doggie as she said I was "too big" (okay, so now I feel like a man)! She spent some time after talking and touching. Really a lot of fun.

The second lady was Maria from Poland. She is short and just on the comfy side, blonde hair, nice C cups. Speaks pretty good English. This is her evening hobby part time job! Wow, what a lot of fun, too. We went into the Kino room and proceeded to finger, kiss, touch, and finally did 69 to completion! Wow, really different in a room full of people! She had no problems with being in the room but did ask if I wanted to go to a private room. She offered her digits but after I paid I forgot to get them! I'm kicking myself now! Anyone know her or have her number???!!!!???!!!

Over all, a good experience. My first in the FKK scene. I can't imagine it being much better anywhere else but then it probably is if you get out of town to some of the larger places. Everything here was clean. The food was adequate and filling, but I didn't come here for the food. Lots of ladies to hustle around and clean up as well as lots of ladies to chose from. Probably 15+ by the time I left (10 PM or so). Prices are as quoted here. I look forward to coming back again in the future!

Beffen1
08-17-04, 22:02
Big Barbie Lithuanian Diana was my first anal experience at Palace, or anywhere. She did seem mercenary trying to sell upgrades, and after a point she became detached, but having this 10 beg you to give it to her anally for only 50 euro more got to me. It was great for about ten minutes until she spasmed and messed herself and me a bit, sort of came anally if there is such a thing. But I dug her look so I pounded her puddy for an hour more after we washed up. Pretty big lady, strong like bull.

Beffen 1

Henio
08-17-04, 23:42
Hi Zarkoff,

Yes, the breasts on Jermaine are real. You can tell she has had a reduction by the way her scars run from "bottom up". Enlargment surgeries are never done that way to my knowledge, only reduction surgery.

I had a great time to with her, but I'm not sure everebody will as she said she'll only do cbj. She explained why she did not do bbbj, but the explanation seemed kind of personal so I won't go into details. At the time I wandered if she would run into some kind of problem at the club not providing bbbj as it is kind of norm in the FRA Fkks. Guess not since she's still there.

Chivaz

22acacia
08-18-04, 13:32
Well, after reading all the positive reports regarding FKK, I made my first visit to Palace last night. I couldn't find Oase, but I got lucky at Palace. I drew the white ball from the jar for free entry! Arriving around 12am, the food was nearly gone and the ratios was nearly 1-to-1. It's a nice set up; I spent about an hour just exploring and settling in.

Surprisingly, none of the ladies attempted to approach me and were content to lie on the couches and smoke. The first lady I talked with was a blonde 24-year old Nikki from Hungary. She wasted no time in the first thing she asked me was if I wanted to go to a room. Against my best instincts, I agreed. We started out with CBJ, to 69, to a multiple positions. Due to the rush and...lack of feeling...she wanted to finish off with HJ. I resisted and in the end, an uninspiring performance.

After spending another hour lounging, including in the sauna and kino, I decided upon Lattia?, a 30-year old brunette from Lithuania. This time, I didn't have to ask for BBBJ-excellent. From cowboy to missionary, she was very impatient. Closing time was 4 and we started at 3:35. Not quick enough for her, she finished with a well-lubed HJ. Again, an experience not worth remembering.

So, from two uninspired dates, only 15 minutes for my 2nd session, poor food, no alcohol it was an underwhelming experience for my first FKK time. Good thing I didn't have to pay the 65 euro entry! Maybe if I had been able to do one of the two Russian girls or the tall, slim German brunette, it might have been better. Maybe next time I'll find Oase instead of driving around for an hour-and-a-half.

Then again, I head bootyfest--I mean, Budapest is a good time too! :)

Mark User
08-19-04, 16:55
My first time back at the Palace since renovations. I had similar experiences here, so will just emphasize:

a) Same cold rush from Nikki from Hungary. Stay away. Maybe she will learn. As long as we give in to her pushing, she will get away with it.

b) Vanessa from Poland is incredibly cute, sensuous, non-rushed. GFE all around. I was tempted to just have her for the evening over and over.

c) Lola from Italy was nice. Very receptive to DATY. When they hold their own pussy lips open and move you into position and indicate what they want and the pace, well, it works for me!

d) I think she said her name was "Anna" and had spent time in Canada. Her English was excellent, as were her skills. GFE, cute. Said she was normally at OASE but had come over to check out the Palace.

It was good to go home drained.

A note on food. I started a session JUST as the evening buffet arrived. By the time I was done 30 minutes later, it was ALL GONE! Don't plan on going there for the buffet!

Mark

Carnal1
08-20-04, 03:16
The Buffet is worth taking in. Just plan the first session before dinner, then have your meat and potatoes! Enjoy the scenery during dinner cause its fun to watch the girls hover around the food. Its actually quite a scene at most of the clubs !

n-joy

Carnal1

Round the World
08-31-04, 18:29
Last Thursday had my first visit to Palace. Took the S-Bahn train (3.25 euro) from the airport to the Hauptbahnhof. Then a 12 euro cab ride to Palace.

As chronicled here, the facilities are quite nice. Lacking in outdoor facilities, but the bedrooms are varied and better appointed than Oase or World.

I arrived around 1:30pm. Probably 20 girls and about 5 customers. No stunning models in sight, mostly 6-7's. I did talk to a few girls but wasn't too interested. Overall the girls here are friendly but not pushy.

Eventually I did see a girl who fit my desired profile. The young, slender type. Her name was Vanessa from Poland, 23 years I think. Great thin body, grey eyes and asandy brown hair. Very attractive but quick to the punchline. I'd waited for about 2-3 hours since my arrival, so I was impatient for a first round.

We went off to the small kino, behind the hot tub. Lots of pillows and a bench covered in fake white fur and a medium sized tv. She started off with a very nice bbbj while kneeling on the bench. Then I repositioned her for some 69. She kept asking me about upgrading to CIM for another 50. I said I was interested - I had abstained for a week prior so it would potentially be a worthy option.

But alas the combination of abstinence and some very enjoyable mish and doggy left me unable to hold out for the CIM. It was over in a very short 15 minutes and she was quickly getting dressed already. Admittedly it was my fault for not lasting longer but she would have left a better impression by at least lingering for the full 30 minutes. I'm surprised to see that Mark User had the opposite experience.

I had until 8pm when I had to head back to the airport. In that time I was disappointed to see few if any new girls check in for work. I did get a round at the buffet table which is better than other FKKs, but still not what I would call a great meal.

So around 7pm I decided to have another round with the only girl who looked worthy - Vanessa again. Again she tried to upsell me on the CIM, but instead I took the hour for 100e. This time I enjoyed the same great BBBJ and multiple positions for 50 minutes straight. I might be wrong but I thought I felt some pelvic twinges from her which may have signalled her orgasm. She didn't say much and I didn't ask. Eventually I was taking so long that she started asking me if I was able to come this time. I assured her I could and, on the bottom end of a very nice cowgirl, I eventually did. Again she had her skirt on again in 1 minute flat and was ready to leave. Oh well, I guess I was paying for a pretty girl with a great body, not a hospitable attitude.

After I had dressed and was waiting for a cab, I was reflecting on how limited the selection was at palace when in walks a stunning blond with a model's face and body. She smiled at me on her way past knowing she had a future customer. This must have been the fabled Cindy of Palace. Alas, I had a plane to catch. Perhaps this will be a reason to return to Palace... but only for the night shift.

RtW

Mark User
08-31-04, 18:44
RTW,

She never rushed me though she did start with the upsell menu. But since she was my second of the visit, I didn't have trouble lasting and extending the time to the full 30 minutes.

Someone once said that they start with a less than beautiful one to make it last longer if it has been a while, and then go with the cuter ones afterwards.

Mark

Hessen Bub
09-01-04, 09:23
"walks a stunning blond with a model's face and body."

Very long blonde hair? Tattoo above the ass? Nightshift? This was Marina (you should have delayed you flight), not Cindy. Cindy should be visiting the Colosseum in Augsburg at the moment. She's got large breasts and I would not call her "modell-like".

Hessen Bub

Peter
09-01-04, 21:06
HB,

This is the classic, "What constitutes a model" debate.

I belong to the camp which sees models as Claudia Schiffer, Cindy Crawford, Kate Moss etc. this means tall and thin with classically attractive faces with striking but delicate features.

A good proportion of mongers think of Kelly Price (Jordan) and Pam Anderson Types as Model-Like. That means big hair and big tits. If I am referring to that typer I will say playboy or porno style girls.

It is also a matter of taste. If I talk about porn stars positivelyx I mean girls like Jenna Jameison or Shane or other natural type girls, many others mean Teresa Orlowski or Dolly Buster or other IMHO primitive looking girls.

The Cheap looking big titted girls is a reason why I don't like Happy Garden as much as Wildenrath. PHG has more of these overblown sort of women, whereas Wildenrath has more of the natural sort, although with Nici there is one real silicon Pam anderson Look alike. There are pictutres of her in the gallery of their homepage. www.parksauna-wildenrath.de

peter

Dedalus
09-02-04, 03:58
H. B.,

Do you happen to know if Cindy will be back by the 12th? Justr curious.

RTW,

The Bub is right on. It sounds like you let Marina slip though your grasp. What a shame for she is a delight.

Cheers.

Dedalus

Euro100
09-02-04, 05:03
Peter,

I just checked out the wildenrath website. This is a really cool galery. There is one girl who shows her face in many of the pictures, for example #3 and #16. Do you know who she is?

I know, I know, it's off the topic, but since you mentioned it ...

Thanks
euro

Hessen Bub
09-02-04, 06:55
@Peter: Cindy is more the "Kelly Price (Jordan)"-type.

@Dedalus: Sorry, I do not know Cindys schedule but I'll ask the girls at Palace next week, maybe they know.

Hessen Bub

Cachorro
09-02-04, 09:13
I agree on Marina, what a gorgeous creature. But I have not had the pleasure of a session with her, unfortunately.

I only saw her on my last night in Frankfurt. Someone booked her practically the whole night, most of the time just lying around on the couch in the main room. It felt like kids in a playground, and one kid gets hold of the most desirable toy. The more the other kids hang around coveting it, the less he wants to give it up! Oh well, maybe next time.

Mark User
09-02-04, 13:44
Three parts of my most recent visits to Palace:
(excerpts cross posted to General)

the good: I had a session one night with Eleni from Greece. very nice, very sensuous, started talking at the bar, moved to the cinema for warm up, then to a room. All the GFE aspects of cuddling, nibbling, giggling, mutual oral, multiple positions, etc.

the best: Last night, a long intereaction with Natalie. From Belgium, schooled in London so fluent English. Works occasionally to pay the bills for school. Dirty blonde, thin, soft, cuddly, affectionate. Again, met at the bar and talked a long time, then to the couch for a warm up, kissing, petting, chatting, and then to a room for wonderful time. then Shower, and DID IT ALL AGAIN. All in all, probably spent 2 hours with her, and would spend my whole time with her if she is back.

I have heard of guys who have their favorite and don't do FKK buffet style. I could be one of those if Natalie is there!! A real sweetie. And she seemed to get out of a kick that I could actually speak French (not oral, the language, silly!).

the bad: Nora: Here is the pattern: As soon as you start with this type of girl, on the couch or in the Kino, they put their hand on your penis, and then give you a quick lick or short suck. THAT STARTS THE CLOCK as far as they are concerned. I have NEVER had a girl 'count' the warm up time as part of the 30 mins. Maybe I have just been lucky in all my visits to all the clubs, but this was a first *for me*.

After that first lick, we chatted a bit, caressed, she gave me an occasionaly rub or lick more, and then when a room opened up, we went. Once we moved to the room, we kissed for a minute or two, I did oral on her (at her suggestion) for maybe 5 minutes, and then she says, "we only have 1 minute left, do you want to do 1 stunde (hour)?!?!?" WHOA!!! I immediately said, "No, we're done," and got up and started to wrap in my towel. She looked like she had no idea what I meant. She protested that this was just her job, and when she did "suckee suckee in kino" that was starting the 30 minutes, and that for sex I would have to pay 1 hour now. I said, no I wouldn't, "BECAUSE WE'RE DONE." And I got my things, I paid her, and she continued to complain.

As I said, this has never been my personal experience, or the 'rule' applied to any of the sessions, at any of the clubs, although maybe implicitly the girls who wanted to rush may have been doing this. She said, "it's my job, and if I do suckee it is 30 minutes for 50 euros." I replied "my job is to tell my colleagues on the net to stay away from you." So here goes: Nora is a thin bleach blonde (probably) with slightly crooked front teeth/overbite. Speaks wonderful English. She is one of the ones who will go up to guys somewhat aggressively to initiate something; now I know why. STAY AWAY.

Have I just been incredibly lucky for 4 years? What is other guys experience in this area?

'nuf said.

Mark

CBGBConnisur
09-02-04, 14:04
Going to Frankfurt area clubs, the clock watching is something that I have constantly noticed. They became especially so when they heard my American accented English. I have always noted that it is best to make up some bullshit that you're working in the area or have moved there because you will get better service if they think you will become a regular client. Most of these clubs and the girls make their money off of regular clientele. A lot of guys think the local German women offer mediocre service, the best sex I have had in an FKK happened to be with a Bavarian by the name of Sabrina who worked at Bablyon, her '69' is something that I still remember to this day. Speaking German is a major advantage in getting the best service.

Mark User
09-02-04, 15:32
CBGB:

Just to be clear, this was the first explicit instance of not just "clock watching" but "setting the clock early" that I have encountered. Even my "rushed" experiences were all in excess of 30 minutes total if you add the bar + couch + room time.

Eleni was wonderful, and Natalie, well, I'm done looking if I could have her every time.

Mark

CBGBConnisur
09-02-04, 17:22
Everyone seems to have a different definition of when the clock starts. Most of the Frankfurt girls start the clock the moment she puts Mr. Wiggy in her mouth. Some of the other clubs I have visited, they usually start the clock once your inside the room in private with the lady.

Euro100
09-03-04, 05:34
Mark,

Thanks for the report with the warning. I have never encountered that kind of behavior by a provide in any of the German clubs. Did you complain to the lady at the entrance? You do not simply have to pay and shut up in this situation.

euro

Hessen Bub
09-03-04, 07:05
It is not uncommon for girls to hit the clock when starting a blow job even outside the room. I have not yet made this experience but some girls do it on a regular basis, no matter if you are speaking German, English or Turkish.

Concerning Marina: She's got some regular guests "booking" her for long time sessions. It's worth every cent.

Hessen Bub

Dedalus
09-03-04, 14:50
"Concerning Marina: She's got some regular guests "booking" her for long time sessions. It's worth every cent."

I could not agree more! I have had so many wonderful sessions with her. What a women!

Dedalus

BodyRockerForU
09-04-04, 11:22
Hello Mark,

Interesting report about the clock watchers. Luckily never happened with me in a FKK that they start the time from the moment action begins on the couch. Till now the clock has started only once we hit the room. However thanks for letting us know so we can be cautious.

By the way what is the nationality of Nora? It will help us in keeping away from her.

BR

Mark User
09-04-04, 12:06
I would guess that Nora was/is German from the little I spent talking. Normally I spend some time chatting up the girls, but clearly I wasn't able to this time!

Mark

Ortos
09-04-04, 14:54
For what it's worth, I remember a rather tall, lanky girl with frizzy blonde hair (bleached?) named Nora from Atlantis. She was definitely German, and in the earlier days, say, a year/year-and-a-half ago, this Nora was quite a popular girl and used to be a good provider. If this is the same girl, she has certainly changed her MO.

BTW: There is another girl named Nora working Palace, or at least there used to be: I had multiple sessions with a dark haired Spanish/Moroccan beauty named Nora. She was not tall and a very slightly stocky build, but gave me GFEish sessions that were a far cry from what you, Mark, describe about the tall blonde Nora. I just mention this so that there is no confusion...

Mark User
09-04-04, 16:05
I would not describe this Nora as having frizzly hair at all. It was nice, straight, and soft. No frizz at all. Probably not the same Nora.

And again, just to be clear to all, YMMV, DSFDF. Your mileage may vary, different strokes for different folks. I may be the exception to her rule!

(Technically, I guess I should have said YKMV since this is Europe).

Mark

Fats
09-05-04, 10:28
Nora

Nora is Hungarian but has lived in Germany for several years. She has worked at Atlantis, Oase as well as the Palace. The treatment received by Mark is the rule, not the exception. She is definitely one to avoid.

German reviews of Nora from 2002.

1.Akt: Nora aus Ungarn
Ist nicht viel zuzusagen. Wildes Rubbeln am besten Teil des Mannes, sofort Gummi drüber und ihren Körper hingehalten zum Akt. Sehr ernüchternd, da ich doch übers Atlantis nur gutes gehört hatte. Also Nora bitte meiden !
WF: - 100 % = garantiert nie mehr !

Aber in Noras Fall war es so, dass erstens ihre Französisch-Technik mir überhaupt nicht gefallen hat, was natürlich reine Geschmackssache ist, für sich genommen aber auch niemals ein Grund gewesen wäre, sie auf die Flop-Liste zu setzen.
Was mich vielmehr gestört hat, war ihr Eifer, unbedingt um eine halbe Stunde verlängern zu wollen (was ihr bei dir offensichtlich gelungen ist). Da in unserem Fall aber noch mindestens 10-15 Minuten Zeit gewesen wären, hätte ich es für normal gehalten, dass die anschließende Massage in der halben Stunde mit drin gewesen wäre.

Nora
Die Flop Nora war glaube ich aus Ungarn; die beschriebene Top-Nora ist ein deutsches Gewächs, mit der ich auch schon mehrmals das Vergnügen hatte. Meinen Vorschlag, doch einen anderen Namen zu wählen, um nicht mit der anderen Nora verwechselt zu werden, hat sie jedoch nicht umgesetzt.


About a month after this Nora, who is very bad, left Atlantis, another Nora, who is very good, started working there. Thus the confusion, but Mark User's description is dead on for the Hungarian Nora and I've seen her myself at the Palace. Your mileage may vary but it will be varying between horrendous and awful.

Traveling Male
09-05-04, 12:30
Hello all,

Mongering in groups is always more fun than alone, I'm here in Frankfurt until the 12th of September, any one wants to hook up for a drink followed by some holy quest? PM me.

TM

BodyRockerForU
09-05-04, 12:33
Wow Nora does have a reputation. She goes in my Crap List.

Peter
09-07-04, 00:23
Mark,

There is no word "Kilometerage", so YMMV is right!

Euro,

Getting back to your old Wildenrath Question, the girl in picture 3 and 16 and about haöf pf the other pictures is Naomi, 23 Russian from Lithuania. Very Popular, although not my favourite. She is there a lot.

Peter

Teddy Johnwa
09-10-04, 06:18
I have been recently in the palace.

Took the line U6 and got down and industrial/neue borse.

Got down and walked the left side of the road, same direction my train was running.

If you are there you wil see the palace on a sort of inner alley on your left. About 200 m from you.

Inside I had a shower, and begun to look around. I chatted with some of them, but no chemistry.

Then I met a german/marrocco girl, I think her name was Nadjia. She said her mum is from marocco and father German. Speaks perfect english. She is blonde and kind of minute, not outstanding from far away, but still a very nice girl.

We went in the room and she gave me a BBBJ and FS in all positions I wanted. Also she is a great kisser and very friendly and easy going.

After dinner and a nap, very late at 3 o clock, I had a russian girl, her name was. Sorry forgot, a tall, thin russian girl, it was a mechanical experience, talking was boring and she didn't look to enjoy what she was doing. An average experience, just a little fun.

Cheers,

Teddy

Iseeu
09-15-04, 03:08
Long layover on a Sunday in FRA. Anyone have info on Palace daytime providers on a Sunday? Experiences/ recomendations/horror stories? I've never been there during morning shift or during church hours. Tnx for any help.

Member #2258
09-15-04, 05:22
How far is palace from downtown Frankfurt? And what's the address?

Thanks.

Catalyst
09-15-04, 06:31
Does anyone at Palace read this board? Do they know about Nora and not do anything about her? Has anyone complained to management about her?

I don't want to go to this place. I don't want to have to worry about having to look up a name and a description and interview girls before I go with them to make sure that they aren't this well known snake who has no business being there now that everyone seems to know about her. I prefer to go somewhere where there are no booby prizes hidden among the girls. I know that there are never any absolute guarantees, but I prefer to go to a club that takes care of its problems once they become known.

Dedalus
09-15-04, 13:38
Catalyst,

Good luck in your quest to find the perfect club. Everyone that I have been to has a few bad apples in the bunch. Even Atlantis and Babylon during its finest glory days had a few black marks.

I have no doudt that Nora is a blight on the FKK scene. It is not so easy to get rid of these girls because you can bet that there some fkk'ers that do enjoy her. Peter once told me about a provider at a different club that he really enjoys although hardly anyone else does. Truth is YMMV.

Palace is a good club and it has some of the best providers on the FKK scene. You may not see them on a Sunday, but they are there. Right now it is the "home" to Marina, Dilara, Diana, Angelika, Michelle and many others. Marina alone gives this place a 4 star rating.

The best way to deal with Nora is spread the word (thanks to WSG and Roemerforum, this is no problem) and let her suffer the consequences of her bad reputation. She has approached me in the past and there was never really a click there so I just sent her away. I am sure that she will either get the point or get out of the business.

Also why not make a list of some of the recommendations from this and other forums and then ask someone to point them out when you get there. Its an FKK. There is no reason to be shy. Ask the chick behind the bar. Ask one of the more gregarious girls. Ask a fellow customer who looks like he knows the scene. Perhaps maybe even arrange a visit with someone from this forum or another.

If you decide to avoid a club, especially this one, because of one bad provider then you really will be missing out on some good times. Also as I stated earlier, good luck finding the perfect club.

Cheers and happy hunting,

Dedalus

Hessen Bub
09-15-04, 17:55
Marina, Dilara, Angelika, Michelle - they all were present yesterday. Also Kathi, Maria, Miriam and others.

Hessen Bub

Stray Ten Arrow
09-15-04, 18:09
Catalyst:

I hope that you will give Palace or others a try. I went to Palace this week, and following advice here, took things easy, and was wary of any girl who just made a beeline for me. Sure enough, IT WAS NORA!

She looked schocked when I told her that I was not interested and that I had read about her already on the net, and that what I read is why I was not interested.

I then had 3 sessions over about 3 hours with 3 of the most beautiful women I have ever had the chance to be with.

It was wonderful. There are girls at each place that are wonderful, and some not so wonderful. But overall, it is so much better than anything I have ever found mongering in the eastern states of the US.

Strayer

Catalyst
09-16-04, 05:21
Dedalus - I know perfectly well that all clubs will have some problems, but when a girl is talked about for weeks or even months on the internet and she is still there I wonder whether anyone is paying attention or cares.

Hessen Bub
09-16-04, 09:51
@Catalyst: Reports on the internet are always anonymous. Who nows if it is true or maybe the other side is telling the story differently?

If guests complain about girls at the reception (more than one) they will take action. There are several girls I have never seen again in Palace, and their service was not good.

Hessen Bub

Catalyst
09-17-04, 04:06
Strayer,

OK, maybe I went a little far in suggesting that I wouldn't go there anymore. It looked like not a bad club the one time I was there and I probably will go back. But it does annoy me to see reports of girls who are making people unhappy, but who keep working there.

Hessen,

There are several people who are saying bad things about her who have many posts on this board, so I tend to believe them.

Hessen Bub
09-17-04, 08:08
I tend do believe them as well, but should club owners rely on these statements? If she does a bad job this will be spread on the internet and prevent people from booking her.

Hessen Bub

Need Some
09-19-04, 19:01
Heading up to Frankfurt this week and will be trying out a FKK for the first time. After reading the forum, I'm very excited and can hardly wait to try out a FKK club, but got a quick question.

How much should I budget for the Palace (entrance fee, drinks and such)? I like to know before hand, so I don't get shell shock (especially at this horrible exchange rate).

While researching, I read in a FKK forum that a guy got in free because he picked the right ball out of a jar, is that common, and if it is, what is the price range?

Also, I understand the girls insist on using thier own condoms, but I just feel more comfortable using mine. It might be just because I was in Asia for so long, but that is just me. Will the girls be offended and not give good service because they are insulted?

I'll be at the Frankfurt airport on Wed and then in town until Thurs evening, if anyone wants to grab a drink. I plan on arriving mid afternoon and staying until close (do FKK close?). Cheers.

Dedalus
09-20-04, 01:50
Palace entrance fee: 65 Euros

Drinks: free

Buffet dinner: free

Sessions: 50 for standard service (BBJ and 30 min.) 100 for CIM Prices should not vary but it is always best to ask if you are not sure. Better yet, scan the forum and you can get and idea of the price structure for the Frankfurt Clubs for they are pretty similar.

I don't know about the free entrance deals that they have although there may be something like the "double six" night at Oase. Best thing would be to check the Palace web site.

The "London" condom that nearly all the girls use is just fine. It is a common brand here in Germany and you will be as safe as if you were in your mother's arms. I really would not sweat it. There is a lot of sex in Germany and these people take safe sex, like most things, very serious. The condoms are not made or saranwrap. However, if you really need to use your own, then by all means do so. It just may send a strange signal to your temporary lover and there is always the chance that it will put her off. Maybe, maybe not. The more relaxed she feels with you, the better time you will have.

Best advice: Relax. The FKK experience is best enjoyed when you and the girl(s) feel comfortable. Also look for a blond Lithuanien named Marina (usually present in the evenings) and be nice to her. She will make your trip worthwhile. Don't get hung up on the condom issue.

Have a blast,

Dedalus

Peter
09-20-04, 22:12
Deda,

You forgot to mention that the club closes at 4 in the morning. If I remember correctly Oase and World close at 5am.

Palace has the Pull a ball for free entrance on Tuesdays and Sundays.

Oase's Double six program is on Wednesday if I remember correctly.

Peter

Novize
09-20-04, 22:18
Peter,

you remember nearly perfectly.

All three clubs open at 10 a.m.

Palace closes at 4 a.m

Oase closes at 5 a.m

World closes at 4 a.m Sunday to Wednesday and at 5 a.m Thursday to Saturday.

Hessen Bub
09-21-04, 06:57
FKKW closes at 4 am except for Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

Double Six in Oase is on Wednesdays, correct.

Little OT: Did you see the LED-banner above the bar at Oase? It says "... and French total are by us normal". ;-)

Hessen Bub

Bruce Ley
09-21-04, 14:41
"... and French total are by us normal".

What the heck does that mean?

Ortos
09-21-04, 20:38
It means:

"You're not in Kansas anymore..."

Peter
09-21-04, 22:07
French total means Cum in Mouth. That it is normal, means it is readily available, a lot of girls offer it.

Peter

Euro100
09-22-04, 01:00
Gentlemen,

let's not jump to conclusions here. Bruce Ley may not really be from Kansas after all. (Kansas, by the way is a fine state ... except for that evolution thing - but I am digressing).

I think whay Bruce Ley may have wanted to say: the sentence "... are by us normal" makes no sense in English. In German, however, "... ist bei uns normal" is fine. So all of you German speakers have no problem with this, and your brains made the conversion without a problem. But it is still not an English sentence, and someone who does not speak English may not understand.

I tried to explain this to the Oase's owner last time I was there, but he was not convinced. There are also other typos on that electronic banner. But what the heck, the main message is still: you can jerk off your load in the girls mouths, and there is no extra charge.

happy hunting
euro

Bruce Ley
09-22-04, 03:12
"you can jerk off your load in the girls mouths, and there is no extra charge."

WHAT? Oh man, I feel really sheepish for saying this, but I had 5 sessions total on my trip last year at Atlantis, and of the 5 I paid the 3 girls that I cummed on an extra 50 Euros for the pop-shot. AAaaagh!

All I did was follow the instructions and opinions of this very forum - I thought cum anywhere on the body was another 50 Euro! Man, do I feel like a lout.

So what's the deal here - cum on body/in mouth has no extra charge? Clear this up for me, guys. Also, if that is true is this the standard policy at all Frankfurt area clubs like Oase, Atlantis, World, Palace?

- Bruce (the Sheepish One)

Fats
09-22-04, 04:54
Euro100


As a native English speaker I find the phrase "French total are by us normal" to be an awkward transliteration also. If I had to guess at what that sign was trying to say in English I would agree with you, "you can jerk off your load in the girls mouths, and there is no extra charge." The only problem is, there IS an extra charge, namely 50 Euros.

Ortos
09-22-04, 06:14
I find all these explanations to be alright by me!

Btw: The phrase "You're not in Kansas anymore" was lifted from the classic 1939 film The Wizard of Oz, when Dorothy, marvelling at all the strange wonders she encounters, utters to her dog: "We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto..."

The translation problem could be somewhat eased by grasping that the German preposition "bei" is not exactly like the English "by" even though it sounds the same.

Maybe they are trying to convey in the banner that this extra service is widely or normally available, just in case some guys were too shy to ask.

Hessen Bub
09-22-04, 07:41
Ups, didn't mean to cause a big discussion.

It should have read "CIM is readily available", but there is an extra charge. There are some more typos like "Whrilpool" etc., but they will stay there forever and you will find native English speaking men wondering about it. Have fun.

Hessen Bub

P.S.: Common mistake for native German speakers:

"I became a present" instead of "I got a present". This happens because in German the sentence is "Ich bekam ein Geschenk". ;-)

Toscana
09-22-04, 08:48
Another amusing one: Germans invariably confuse "by" and "until". A friend of mine was once exhorted by a girl to "please come until the end of the hour". There were 35 minutes to go........ :-)

Nichts für ungut. Their English is usually much better than most foreigners' German.

But let's get back to the Palace. Where were we? Open until 4 a.m.

Peter
09-22-04, 20:05
Just to make it clear to all. I AM A NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER! If you don't believe it check out some of my posts on the German Boards. If my German were that poor and I couldn't speak english natively as well, then I would be illeterate in the only two languages I can speak. Holy crap, with that low a level of education I could never afford FKK's.

Peter

NastyBoy
09-22-04, 22:26
"Ur not in Kansas anymore" is from the Matrix, Neo.

NB

Mark User
09-23-04, 02:09
Actually, "not in Kansas anymore" is originally based on Wizard of Oz, what Dorothy says to TOTO.

Dedalus
09-24-04, 21:16
Bruce,

If CIM is not an extra 50 Euros at Oase or any other Frankfurt FKK, then that is news to me. Just because it is "normal" does not mean that it does not cost extra.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Novize
09-24-04, 21:31
Bruse,

To answer your question:

In the Rhein-Main-area, CIM is always 50 € extra.

COB is always a matter of negotiation. Officially, it´s 50 € extra at World. I don´t know the "official" rules at Palace and Oase (It´s said that at Oase you don´t have to pay for that since June/July this year, but I didn´t try that personally). But it´s best to ask the girl before the session. Some of them want extra money, some not. If you ask before, you can step back and look for another girl without wasting money.

Garbanzo
09-25-04, 20:40
Heading to Frankfurt in October, looking to spend an evening at the Palace...

Couple of newbie questions/concerns:

- I have been to Termas in Rio, and they provided robes. I understand it's towels only in FKK. I'm a big dude, and I hear these towels are small. Do they have something to help tie these towels on so I don't keep having it fall off me?

- Any multiple pops at the Palace? My first is usually fast (probably will upgrade to CIM to get it out and then go longer) or is it pay more to go again within the 30 mins?

- Place to stay - I'm actually going to be outside Frankfurt for most of the trip, but will need a place in Frankfurt for a couple nights. Looking to be train accessible to Palace, but close to fun "regular" things to do in town as well (bars, clubs, shops, etc.). Might be nice to be accessible to RLD as well (may check it out).

Thanks fkk folks!

Unirii
09-25-04, 23:36
Planning on my first trip to a German FKK soon. I can go on Sun, Mon, Tue. What is a good time for palace when there will be a fair selection of girls and a moderate (but not empty) amount of guys?

Thanks

Rain City
09-27-04, 01:36
Garbanzo,

I have not visited Palace yet, but I can share this from my other FKK experiences.

1. You could purchase a robe and wear it, instead of a towel, if you choose to do so. In FKKW, they had both medium and large size towels. So you may want to ask the larger one.

2. You should ask the girl about it. Some girl will leave quickly after one pop, and the other will stay for full 30 min.

3. I used Hotel Premier near the train station. Nice facility, and the price was reasonable. Check www.hotel.de.

Candide
09-27-04, 02:09
>Do they have something to help tie these towels on so I don't keep having it fall off me?

Garbanzo: for a modest $1,200 I volunteer my services to fly over and I will help you tie the towel :)

Carnal1
09-27-04, 04:32
FYI,

CIM is 50E extra at Both Palace and Oase. I actually got off (no pun intended) with slight discount at Oase when one of the girls basically let me spritz on her lips and face for the low price of 50E total for about 45 minutes of multi position gynmastics with the
facial ending. I think she liked me:-)

No complaints from me !

Viagrant
09-27-04, 06:22
garbanzo,

I have used this web site to book hotel reservations in Frankfurt:

http://www.frankfurt-tourismus.de/default.htm

As for your question about robes, when I visited FKK35, they offered robes or towels. I am not sure how widespread this practice is at FKKs, but I definitely prefer a robe.

V.

Hessen Bub
09-27-04, 07:13
At Palace you can also get a robe. But I have seen big boys there wearing a towel, there are 2 sizes and the bigger ones should fit you as well.

Hessen Bub

Paddyo
09-27-04, 08:23
Garbanzo,

Have just returned from my first trip to Frankfurt FKKs. I used http://www.hotel.de/homepage_EN.asp to locate hotels as it was previously recommended by some posters.

I stayed at Hotel Am Kurfürstenplatz in Frankfurt (3 star)

Am Kurfürstenplatz 38
60486 Frankfurt.

It is clean, fairly quiet, less thank 2 km from Palace, i think. The rate was 50 € per nite, parking 5€ per nite (note: the exact location of hotel from the map that hotel.de site provides is inaccurate, and there are no clearly visible signs of hotel, just a small plaque near the door).

On the way to Palace, i also saw Ibis Hotel Frankfurt West (4 star), which the hotel.de quotes for about 70€. I think it is about 1 km away, ie within walking distance (if not raining!).

Both hotels are about 4 stops from HBF by S or U Bahn (ie not within walking distance to other attractions in central Frankfurt). However, it is within easy reach to the A5 for Oase and World.

I dont recollect seeing anyone wearing robes, although some use 2 towels, one for upper and one for lower body.

Have fun.

Round the World
09-28-04, 00:53
On my last trip to Palace for the near future, I arrived around 4pm Thursday. I had been hoping to reunite with Fernanda from Dusseldorf or Vanessa from Poland, but sadly neither turned up that day.

Around 6pm just before food was served, I had my first session with Jana from Russia. Tall, fake blond, blue eyes, small breasts, slim waist. The great thing about Jana is that she looks even more beautiful close up in the room and laying on the bed. Nice BBBJ, a little DATY, a little doggy, then I was ready to explode since I'd saved up for a week. I asked for CIM and enjoyed jerking into her mouth, and she let it drool into her hand. Afterwards over dinner we had a few laughs, and I realised she was one of the more fun people to talk to that I've met in the FKK scene.

For round two around 9pm, I chose the perky Miriam from Poland, 22. Her face is about a 7, but her body is a perfect 10 if you like the slim spinner type. I decided to add another girl to the party, Isabel or Issy another blond, who had a great body too (non-spinner) with attractive eyes and face and a couple of tatoos on the back. In the room, Miriam was the front runner - taking charge with a great sloppy BBBJ while on all fours. Meanwhile, Issy was standing up on her knees with me, DFK and sucking my nipples. Then they switched places. Issy's BBBJ was good but just didn't compare to Miriam's. Then I laid down, Miriam mounted me RCG while Issy sat on my face. Then Miriam proved she was a spinner, by rotating from RCG to FCG without withdrawing... Nice! Then after having both girls doggy-style, I climaxed while in Issy with Miriam's nipples in my mouth. Afterwards, they both talked about their multiple partner experiences (2 guys at once, 2 couples, etc.)

I just have to kick myself for not having more multiples earlier and more often in my brief FKK career. Actually, my first FKK experience was a threesome at Atlantis with a couple of ripoff sisters from Colombia, which unfortunately turned me off the whole multiples idea for too long.

Finally my last session of the night around midnight was with venerable Marina. On my last visit to Palace, Marina was my third session but as luck would have it, I couldn't climax even though she worked like a trooper to earn a 50e CIM bonus. This time I was determined. I'm not sure if she remembered me and her English seemed to have mysteriously deteriorated since last week. But we had some nice DFK, a lengthy bout of 69 wherein she started fingering my arse (I realized this is not my kind of thing), then some cowgirl (I love CG with a beautiful girl hovering over me), then she literally pulled me over into mish. Finally I rolled her over into doggy and finished the deed successfully. I was quite pleased with the outcome.

I ran into Boofer after this session and had fun talking to another English-speaking monger. I wish it were easier to find or identify other WSGers in the clubs.

After a while, I looked around for Jana or Miriam but never found them. After scanning the alternatives realized I wasn't into a fourth session and packed up around 3:30am. On this night it was pretty quiet and I noticed most girls were packing it in early as well. One girl had fallen asleep near the hot tub, and others were waiting in line to get massages from an older Italian dude on the swinging couch.

One last logistical note, I've noticed that if you take the S-bahn from FRA to Hauptbahnhoff if you buy a ticket from a machine it costs 3.25e but if buy a ticket from the attendant on board it only costs 1.85e. Small time, I know, but interesting. Of course, it's still 10-12e for the taxi from HBF to Palace.

That's all for now. Like I mentioned before, I'll be trading in my FKK chops for the quiet life in Sex Prison with possibly intermittent visits Mexico and Chile. Ahh, the FKK's, please enjoy the great things here while you can guys...

Lastly I'd appreciate if anyone comes across Fernanda from Dusseldorf please let me know when and where.

Cheers
RtW

Fats
09-28-04, 04:03
RTW-


Getting on an S-bahn train at FRA without a ticket will cost a 40 Euro penalty fare if you are caught. There are no attendants on board normally. There are ticket checks on a random basis. I once spent a week in Frankfurt and was never asked to show a ticket once. Another time I was asked for it three times on a single train ride. You never know.

If you ever go back to the Palace, the U6 or U7 stop at Industriehof / Neue Boerse is only a few minutes walk from the Palace. The ticket from the airport to the Palace is the same price as the ticket from the airport to the Hbf.

Round the World
09-28-04, 21:06
Fats
I was on the S-bahn from FRA to HBF and wasn't able to buy a ticket from the machine because they won't take a 10e bill or larger.

On the train, the conductor came by and checked everyone's ticket. I said I tried to buy one at the machine but I only had a 10e note. He asked me where I was headed, then told me it would cost 1.85. I gave him the 10e and he gave me change. I guess he believed my story or he was particularly sympathetic.

How do you get to the U6 or U7 stop from HBF?

Ortos
09-28-04, 21:28
U6 can be accessed from Hauptwache, two stops on any S-bahn from Frankfurt Hbf.

Irornod65
09-30-04, 20:50
I visited the Palace a couple of times in September, my first visits to an FKK. I'm hooked. Very relaxing way to spend an afternoon / evening, especially after stepping off a twelve hour plane ride.

My first visit I arrived right when the doors opened. Not many people around, female or male. Lucky, who is Thai, probably mid 30s, decent looking but not stunning showed me around and chatted while I had breakfast from the buffet.

After an hour or so there still only two or three men, and maybe six women. I was not overly impressed with the selection, but ended up going with Lucky because she had been so nice and was talkative. She provided a nice BBBJ on the couch before we moved to a room for more play. Ended up spending an hour with her, which included a very good massage.

Returning to the main room and bar, action was picking up (now about 13:00). I sat and talked to Lucky and a new arrival, Isi (easy), early 20s, blonde, small breasts, very pretty face couple of tatoos on here back and a pierced clit. I layed there for about an hour, almost dozing with Isi running her fingers over my chest while she and Lucky chatted, when Lucky reached under my towel and started bringing me to attention. Isi took over with a very slow, gentle BBBJ which soon had me eagerly agreeing to head to a room with her. Very sweet girl, very much a GFE.

Second visit was later in the afternoon, from about 17:00 'til midnight. I was hoping to find Isi again, but she wasn't around. I was not disappointed, however. What a line-up of gorgeous women! There were at least 20 women there, most of them 7 to 10. Maybe 8 to 10 guys early in the evening, more later, but the ratio was always at least 2 or 3 women for each guy.

Two women that I especially enjoyed were Christina and Traumfrau ('dream woman', which was all the name I got out of here). Christina is Romanian, tall, large breasts, long black hair. Very talkative, bubbly personality, a little bit mechanical in the room, but ended up with a nice BBBJ and CIM.

Traumfrau was my last of the night, and one I will remember fondly for a long time. She was medium height, thin, small breasts, short hair cut dyed a dark red. She had been giving me very 'come on, let's go right NOW' looks all night, but I had steered clear. Partly because she was so direct I was expecting a jaded pro, and partly because she isn't entirely my physical type. Towards the end of the evening she finally came up behind me and just leaned her tits against my back and begin rubbing while we talked a bit.

She started off telling me she was from the Phillipines, but she couldn't speak a word of Spanish and spoke German with a Slavic accent. I finally got out of her that she was from Russia. Coldest Siberia, if what she said is to be believed, but I didn't believe half the things she said. She turned out to be very funny, with a caustic, sarcastic sense of humor that I liked so we went off to a room, where she pretty much unleashed herself on me. Woah!

We had barely shut the door when she was on her knees absolutely inhaling me in a deep throat BBBJ. She devoured it like she couldn't get enough and it was all I could do to hang on to my load. We progressed through just about every position, her always very vocal with a performance that had me convinced she was a sex starved nympho experiencing multiple orgasms. I know it was only a performance, but it was Oscar worthy and she definitly earned her money. I would go back to her in a heart beat.

Rod

Iseeu
10-01-04, 02:23
Actually, you can take either U6 or U7 form Hauptwach. The S-bahn from the airport stops at Hauptwach. Total trip time is no more than 30 minutes depending on time of day and conections.

Beffen1
10-02-04, 20:29
Irornod 65

Your traumfrau sound suspiciously like Angelika, a seasoned professional once voted number one girl in Atlantis. She is quite the wild ride and very sarcastic and ascerbic in the humor department. She is indeed from Siberia.

Beffen 1

Jaas
10-02-04, 20:38
Does anyone know if a cute girl named Nikki (nicole?) is still working there? I was in there about 3 months ago and met her and had a great time. She is Russian but lives in Cologn. She hangs with another Russian (polish?) girl that is a bit plump, but nice to talk with. Nikki is about 5'5", slim, nice but, small tits, short dark hair. Average face but makes up for it in the sack as well as just a pleasure to talk with.

Thanks for the help everyone!

Jaas

Henio
10-02-04, 20:49
Irornod65,

I'm 99% sure your Traumfrau was Angelika, a highly decorated ex Atlantis talent. One of the best there is.

Chivaz

Stiff6
10-05-04, 21:13
Hi fellows,

Last week I had two visits to Palace (my first time in a German FKK-club) and I loved it!! The relaxed atmosphere of being able to hang around, chat with the girls and have drinks without too much pressure was just great, sitting around and watching all those pretty girls before and in between my sessions was almost as enjoyable as the sessions themselves …. well not quite, but almost - you know what I mean! :-)

When I just had arrived and wandered around I was greeted by a brown girl from the Dominican Republic named Maria, who offered to show me around. At first I hesitated because she was a bit too petite and slender for what I usually like, but she had a great grin and when she put her tongue deep inside my mouth she convinced me rather quickly. When I asked her what she had on her menu she said “everything” and she really meant it. I did not go for the a-level option because she asked 100,- more for it (instead of the 50,- I had expected), but otherwise we had great sweaty sex with BBBJ, FS in several positions and great DFK. I loved it and it really felt like she was not holding back with anything - nothing of the “don’t touch me here” or “stop doing that” shit that you sometimes get!

Then I saw this incredibly attractive girl with short black hair, sweet face and incredible tits, but she was with another guy and they just went to a room. After hanging around for a while, recovering and having a go at the buffet I had a session with Christina from Romania. Nice girl with Ds, ok DFK and BBBJ a little mechanical during FS in cowgirl and mish, but still a nice experience.

When I came out of the shower I saw the beauty again - and again with another guy at the bar. I waited around a bit becoming tired, and before leaving I asked her for her name (“Jeromine”, wrongly referred to as Jermaine earlier in this forum) and if she’d be around the next days (“Yes!”).

Came back next evening, didn’t see her around. After a while two very young girls approached me, offering double pack action. Sydney, a slender blonde with short hair was not too interesting, but her friend Cilene (?) was nice and tan with big sexy tits and a perky look, so I thought I’d give them a try after some chat. We had to wait for a room and while on the sofa it turned out that the 2x50,- for half an hour would not include the lesbian action they had announced (this would be 2x100,-) and that kissing was not included in their basic rate. I said I couldn’t afford the lesbian extra and would only do the session if kissing was included, and they said yes after some discussion. They just refused to start with it on the couch saying this would harm their reputation with the other girls (?).

In the room it was a mixed experience - it was great to have one of them suck my balls and the other my cock, but all the time it seemed that they were feeling a bit awkward like two girls just playing to be pros. I was more interested in Cilene, so most of my action was with her while kissing Sydney. Unfortunately she had a bit of the “don’t do this, don’t do that” attitude, which turned me off. Overall ok (my first time with 2 girls), but won’t repeat.
After dinner I saw HER again: Jeromine! She was sitting with another girl and two guys, having dinner herself, so I just sat across from her and enjoyed to watch her eat. When she had finished I asked if I could join her and we sat on the couch talking for a while. On top of this incredible body she’s got this highly expressive and pretty face (not just another Barbie) and this look that almost killed me! We spent quite some time on the couch together very slowly feeling and enjoying each other. She was so incredibly laid back and didn’t push to go to a room at all! When we finally went I started off with giving her a nice long massage and I loved it. The sex with her was great (I hardly noticed that she had put a condom on before the BJ) and unhurried - a real GFE!

Being spent from all the previous action and a long, hard day I was nice and hard, but couldn’t come, although she did all she could to get me off. After CBJ and FS in various positions we cuddled together for the rest of the time and talked. Altogether I probably spent 2 hours with her enjoying every second. WOW what a woman! If I had been able to get together with her again the next day I probably would have proposed, although I am pretty well aware that it is not a good idea to mix romance with P4P.

Thanks again to all you previous Palace visitors for all the information and for encouraging me to go! Have to try to talk my company into making more business in the Frankfurt area :-)

Stiff6

Toscana
10-06-04, 07:53
Stiff6

That Maria from DomRep sounds like the one who used to be at Atlantis. Did she mention that? Or any plans to go back? She's a really experienced pro, no doubt about that.

Stiff6
10-06-04, 16:01
Toscana

Yes, I think she mentioned Atlantis - saying that the facilities were nicer at Palace, but the atmosphere had been better at Atlantis.

Peter
10-06-04, 21:22
I am getting sick of this Atlantis idolatry. The reviews coming in on virtually every board are unanimously mediocre at best. Not many girls, no money invested in improving the facilities. Any girl going back would be nuts.

Peter (Who hopes Atlantis will close again soon to let the other clubs prosper and grow - It is like pruning a tree)

Member #2633
10-07-04, 07:55
Hi fellows,

I visited Palace in Frankfurt for the first time yesterday. Some kind of special party took place called "Black Night". So all the girls wear black cloths. A few girls were booked especially for some dancing performance.

Had two meeting with two different girls: First was called Carla from Cuba. Dark skin with a nice outer appearance in general. Service unfortunately was just so so. In total I would rate her a 6. But I wouldn´t take her again because of the service quality.

Second girl I went to a room with was a blonde Russian girl called Elena. A little bit tall with wonderful eyes like a cat. Nice service with a wonderful performance. I rate her a 8 in total. Next time coming to Palace I would take her again even she usually works only on day shift.

Toscana
10-07-04, 09:07
Peter,

well, I think we all agree with you that Atlantis has got to prove itself again. But there's surely no harm in tracking down individual girls we once met in A. It's been happening all over the place in the forums, not only WSG. Thanks to Stiff6 I (and maybe a few others) now have another valuable confirmation, i.e. that it is her, and that she is likely to stay put at Palace. I should say a return visit is more on the cards now ;-)
Tosc

Euro100
10-08-04, 01:16
Peter,

If you check my posts, I have never been too enthusiastic about Atlantis. There was always too little light in the main room, and the locker room was really sub-par, even worse than Oase's. The food was hit-and-miss, and the rooms had no doors, only curtains.

But!!! At the height of Atlantis' best period there sure was a great selection of great-looking girls there. And that is really what everybody remembers.

Obviously they lost their base of great providers when they were closed down. The really great ones went on to become stars at other clubs. Now the club needs to reestablish itself again and start out just like any new club. We all know that this is a delicate balance. Better girls mean more men mean better girls mean ... But they have to start slow, in particular since many top providers are of course hedging their bets on going back due to the unresolved law suit issue.

So let's be little patient with them.
euro

Hessen Bub
10-08-04, 07:46
Atlantis (if court does not close it down next week) will take some weeks and then it will be the old Atlantis again, I am pretty confident.

Yesterday there were about 30 to 40 girls, many of the old working force. And lots of girls are just a little unsure but waiting unpatiently to go back and make money. That's why they liked Atlantis. And greed will bring them back.

Hessen Bub

Stiff6
10-08-04, 10:41
Don't you guys think that this Atlantis discussion is a little off topic here in the Palace forum? :-)

Stiff6

Dedalus
10-08-04, 11:29
HB,

It might be interesting in the next few weeks to make some kind of list that track the shift within the "Big Four" (FKKW, Palace, Oase, Atl.). I would bet that the biggest changes will be with Palace and Oase.

I hope to make a research tour up there next week.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Catalyst
10-23-04, 01:28
Only my second visit to the Palace. The first time was on an off night, so I’ve never really seen it at its best. Tonight it was at it’s best. When I first walked in things didn’t look so good. I didn’t see many good looking girls and there were far more men than girls (and one of the girls told me that it is usually more crowded than it was that night). But after an hour or so some nice ones started showing up (either arriving or finishing up in the room) and there was no question that the selection was as good as in any top club.

During the night I took 3 Germans. I’ve heard people complain about the attitude of Germans, and all I can say is if the German girls don’t have the best attitude I can’t wait to try the non-Germans in this club because the Germans were great. I took Nicky and Allysia separately to the kino and I did Tamara right on the big wall sofa by the bar. If you are in Frankfurt and don’t want to rent a car this is the place to visit.

I got more unwanted advances here than at other top clubs, particularly if I went into the kino by myself, but this wasn’t a big deal. At times the kino turned into a tacky lounge area for overweight Spanish speaking chicks. I read some complaints about the bathroom not being clean or not smelling good, but that wasn’t the case when I was there.

Candide
10-27-04, 18:36
Monday night at Palace, usually one of the worst nights to visit, was in fact surprisingly acceptable this time around. Most of the action is around and after midnight. Many people seem to synchronize their visits with the arrival of the 10pm buffet which is really quite appetizing. Geronima (German brunette short hair D-sized) was my first choice of the night and resulted in an ok experience. Much better were some of the flirty Russian girls who do noy shy away from kino action and know how to use their tongues to perfection. The athmosphere was quite nice though with lots of girls "hiding" in the many Palace alcoves. Will try again on "busier" nights.

Katana
10-30-04, 16:36
I went twice during this week both times on weekdays. I have been to this place twice before. I was there on a saturday in September and it was packed but even so the problem is the most popular girls are always booked up. This time there was not that problem. A lot of the same girls were there still. The first night I have a Brazilian woman calling herself marcella who was perhaps the single best sexual experience I have ever had. Anal for an extra 100 CIM extra 50 and so on all standard prices, but she really knew how to talk to me and gave a real GFE. Sex was amazing really took her time and wanted to cum badly (at least she told me). Of course it was probably an act but wow what a preformance, my favourite is when she told me she is a nymphomanic, with this woman it could be true. She told me she normally works in Munich and was just visiting.
next after a long rest was Daniella, a romanian that often works with Christina and to me looks like Anna Kournakovala, same body anyway, about as close to a 10 as there can be bodywise. I didn&t take her before because I thought she would not be good in service, but I was happily wrong, compared to my previous session it was not as good but still veynice very slow and very complient to do anything I wanted. Did ask 200 for anal but came down to the standard quickly so is another star in my book now as well and she is a regular there. The first night Alice was there as well she is a dominica that looks like a black barbie doll, just stunning. I had her a month ago and the service was terrible and she is not willing to do anal (the only one there I asked that was not). She seemed much mopre friendly thins time but I passed as my my previous experience. For the finale I took the long haired thin Bugarian women whose name is something like anissia? anyway about her, the best blow job I have had in my life, all in all quite a night.
I went back later in the week and meet the sweetest like dominicana calling herself Chystal and was most happy but she wanted 200 for anal and didn't comprimise about it any she was worth it even more believable GFE then the Brazilian. So good I took her twice and stayed with her to the end. Never felt much for a working lady that stays with me but now I have, such is life.
That is all for now and YES I will be back.

Euro100
11-02-04, 02:19
Katana:
"Daniella, a romanian that often works with Christina and to me looks like Anna Kournakovala, same body anyway, about as close to a 10 as there can be bodywise"

I can only agree with you. To me she also looks a lot like Anna K. I was also hesitant at first, because in my experience this type of girl can be cold. But I was also extremely positively surprised. Daniella used to work at Atlantis, and I had one of the best sessions in my life there with her.

euro

Hessen Bub
11-03-04, 13:59
[QUOTE=Katana]I went back later in the week and meet the sweetest like dominicana calling herself Chystal ... Never felt much for a working lady that stays with me but now I have, such is life.[QUOTE]

It was her first week in the business, maybe that was why you had such a good session with her. Some girl told me that she would have been 100% my type , but she had a bad experience with a guest (asshole he must have been) and it is not sure when (or if) she will return.

Hessen Bub

Stiff6
11-05-04, 16:40
Hi guys,

I'll be in the Frankfurt area on 24th and 25th of November and will be visiting Palace and/or World. Will anybody else be there on one of those days for a chat or is the big party only coming on the weekend after?

stiff6

Death Warrior
11-07-04, 20:30
I was staying at the Marriot and was at a loose end so decided to visit on a Monday night. Its about 5 mins from the Marriot and costs €8 in a taxi.

Its €65 to get in, the receptionist explained the procedure and tied a green band around my wrist (don't know what this is so...maybe if you go out and come back again ??) and gave a key to a locker after asking for our shoe sizes (note, they only know european shoe sizes, so was confused when I said size 10). Undressed and had a quick shower and wrapped the towel that was given and took a wander around the place. There were not that many guys around and a few girls sitting on the sofas and lounging around. Nothing really stood out, so just sat on the "swinging" sofa and watched how the girls were behaving. A russian girl cam and sat with me and my friend and explained the details (we knew the prices from the forum already). My friend liked her, so he took her to a room. I also needed to get the first one of the night out, so I smiled and beckoned Michelle as she passed me.

She came and sat on my lap and immediately starting DFKing me, she tasted very sweet and certainly got thing stirring down below. We went off to a room, with lots of more kissing and then she started giving me a BBBJ with plenty of attention to my balls. She then got on top, followed by doggy and then missionary with more DFK and the inevitable then happened. She cleaned me up and then we had a nice chat for a few mins and went back into the main area. Definetly reccommended

Sat around for about 1hr, just watching the girls and the dancers. Had a few girls come up, but nothing that really rocked our boats. As we were watching the dancers on the bike, one girl in white boots took my attention, she was dancing and smiling and always bending over showing her butt. I called her over and we starting chatting. Her name was Maria and she was from Sicily, her toungue is pierced and she has a bit of a lisp. She climbed on top and starting kissing. She had just had a cigarette so did not taste the same as Michelle and certainly did not kiss as deep. We then went to the room, where she gave a really deep BBBJ, on with the rubber and then we fucked cowgirl and then doggy. Her arsehole was inviting, but at another €100 a bit too much. She was also dry and I had no intention of DATY, so used a bit of spittle to get it wet. Filled the rubber and collapsed for a while.

On the way out saw a gorgeus black haired girl, so thought I would do her a bit later. My friend however, was not feeling well, so we decided to head back. I saw the black haired girl and she smiled...damn hope she is there next time !!

This place is fantastic, my only gripe is the entrance fee, which is very high, however the quality of some of the girls is outstanding !

Cantor
11-10-04, 06:10
Gentlemen,

I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.

Cantor

Cantor
11-10-04, 12:23
Gentlemen,

I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.

Cantor

Periander
11-10-04, 19:09
Fellow Mongers,

First of all, I would like to thank everyone who has posted the very helpful information to this forum. After reading through this forum and the Frankfurt forum I decided to give the Palace a shot rather than crawl through the RLD. It was a great decision! Here's my experience.

I had a Friday night stay-over in Frankfurt on my way home. Took the train from the airport to my hotel in Frankfurt to dump off my stuff, then went back on the subway to Hauptwache station and changed to the U7 (U8 works also). Got off at Industriehof. Total cost from airport was 3.25 Euro.

Cross the street and follow the direction that the train goes. About 200 m ahead turn left. This is the first major street on the left and has a sign that says 'Palace'. It has a lot of other signs as well. Walk about 50 m and turn right on a small street, and the Palace is in an alley on the left.

Once inside I was told the prices (65 entry, 50 for each "encounter"). After paying entry fee I was given a key for the locker that contained the correct size rubber slippers and two towels (one regular size and one large). The key also works in a small safe just outside the looker room where you can put your money. A fine example of German efficiency.

After showering I went up to the bar in the main room to get some water and survey the landscape. Sat next to a nice blonde and started talking to her as I was enjoying all of the naked lovelies parading around the place. Honestly, you couldn't wipe the smile off my face! Found out her name is Jackie, and she only works on weekends because she lives in Dusseldorf. The whole time I was talking to her I was reminding myself not to go with the first one, since this is what was recommended in many posts. But after a little while a couldn't resist, as her entire body was just awesome and I do like blondes.

Although she really wasn't all that personable to talk to, she was excellent in the room!! A true GFE including DFK followed by 69 w/BBBJ, then multiple positions. The only kind of strange thing is that I noticed that her tits seemed to be inflated to about 20 psi. They were very nicely shaped, but hard! Definitely recommended if you go on a weekend. I watched her throughout the night and she must have scored once per hour.

Went back to the bar to recover, then walked down toward the buffet and ran into Marcia from Russia. Cute little brunette with small perky (and real) tits. I liked her because she said "I want sex right now!" So we went into the Kino room and she quickly started a BBBJ. Remembering that this can start the clock, I moved things into a room. This girl is wild and passionate, delivering yet another GFE. We were like animals.

By this time I figured that's all I had left in me, plus my cash supply was running low. So I decided to sit around for a while enjoying the view (again, the smile could not be wiped off my face). After turning down several advances and watching a few strip teases on the motorcycle, Jasmine from Venezuela started hitting on me. This is a big girl, but not fat. Has D-cups and is really fun. Told her I was low on cash and she would have to take some US currency if we did anything. No problem, so off we went.

Venezuelans and Brazilians are my favorites, and Jasmine did not disappoint! Yet another excellent GFE, but there was no way I was going to go the distance this time with the raincoat on. This girl worked like none I've ever experienced. She even told me to warn her at the appropriate time because CIM is 50 extra. And her tits were just wonderful and real. Afterwards I gave her 35 Euro and $20, saving 20 Euro for the cab ride home and train the next day.

Now I just wanted to sit around and again enjoy the view for a while. Soon Vanessa from Poland plops down right next to me. Very pretty, brunette, with incredible perky tits. But I just didn't have the energy or (more importantly) the cash for her. She is definitely a shark, as she bolted just as soon as I told her I couldn't go anymore.

I took a taxi back to my hotel, as I didn't want to chance the late-night train schedule. There is always a taxi outside waiting for exhausted customers, so I took the easy ride back. Good thing I saved my last 20.

This was a great experience! If you have the time while in Frankfurt you should treat yourself to an FKK. I was daydreaming on the plane ride home and came up with this analogy: RLDs are like a center seat in coach, private apartments are like an aisle seat in coach, and FKKs are like business class.

Be good, and treat yourself to business class once in a while!

Periander

Cantor
11-11-04, 13:39
Gentlemen,

I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.

Cantor

Henio
11-14-04, 22:11
Arrived at Palace around 16:00. Dissapointed with the selection especially since Oase had such a great selection yesterday. Suprised by the number of men at the club (parking was full), and the lack of talent. It got better later in the day, but in no way came close to the selection at Oase.

I still think Palace has the nicest facilities. Rooms are very good, the massage is the best of all the FKK's, the girl who does the regular massage is quite pretty and good, and I dare you guys to try the Turkish massage which is absolutely great (although performed by a guy).

The sessions done by me and a collegue were:

Alice - Domin.Rep. Dark perfect skin, very beautiful face. She is affectionate, very talkative, likes to show of with dance moves. She is very risk aware (she does not allow CIM) which some punters treat as a plus. My collegue did her later in the day and we both give her a good grade, although I would probably not repeat, at least not soon.

Linda - Czheck. I must admit that I only did Linde because of her huge melons (good for the jerk-off memory ;-). She is rather tall, brown hair, full body (borderline fat) with a girl next door face. The session was nice, and I loved hammering between her tits while she sucked the top of my dick. The regular sex was nothing to write home about.

Jasmine - Venezuela. My Collegue went with her to a room because of her personality, not here looks (she is rather big, has large rather floppy breasts and is a bit over the hill). Very cuddly and nice GFE.

I was hoping to have a session with Marina or Angelika, but they were not present.

We left around 20:30 to have dinner and drinks. We asked if we could return later and got a note with a stamp on. Returned to Palace at 02:30 for a nightcap. No problem getting in again without paying, just hand in the note. Had a couple of sessions, but don't remember names as I was a bit tired (we can also call it a bit drunk). One girl had a rather dark skin and almost a bit of oriental look, straight shoulder length hair. Nice session. The other one I only remember that she is from Russia.

Chivaz

Jaas
11-16-04, 18:39
I'm going to be in Frankfurt next week and was wondering if anyone had any recent experiences at Palace. I went there a few months ago and loved it, but I have read a few comments about Palace that makes me wonder if it is still alive and kicking. I'm surprised it doesn't have a more supportive following. I thought the place was great.

Thanks,

Jaas

Jimmy K II
11-26-04, 13:22
Hi fellows mongerers!

I've been to the Palace in Frankfurt last week and I loved it.

There was a nice selection of ladies, for different tastes, there was something for everybody.

Slim and tall, fat and small, black and white - great selection.

I've chosen a nice blond slim and tall romanian girl. I don't remember her name, but it was 100% GFE wit BBBJ and her tongue deep in my throat.

The second was a dominican girl which gave me also a great GFE. BBBJ and CIM, DATY and deep french kisses. The whole programm, that i like so much.

From my side, i can only recommend the Palace, hopefully i can go there again next year.

Greetings and have fun!

Jimmyk

Dedalus
11-27-04, 17:50
Had a nice time last night at Palace. After what was a bit of a dip in quality last month the place seems to have picked up a bit.

I spotted Marina right after changing and siezed the moment. As I have stated before she is one of a kind.

Later I met a girl from Romania for the first time. She is a tall blond named Daniella and I had a pretty good seesion with her. Certainly worth a repeat at some point.

Kathrin (blond, Russian) made the list as my third course on the menue. She always in a gentle way pushes the hour session, but despite this she still give me great service every time out.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Dick Nagai
11-29-04, 01:38
First FKK experience this past Thursday and Friday at the Palace - it was absolutely incredible. I still don't know whether it really happened or was some sort of dream...

I really want to thank this group for all the fantastic information. I travel quite a lot and have lurked in the forums for a while, but had never felt sufficiently comfortable to actually dive in until this trip through Frankfurt.

This FKK thing is truly remarkable. Everything I learned in this group was right on - I spent 18 hours over the two days in ecstatic bliss. Not yet over my jet lag, I am already scheming about how to get back there.

A few general comments-

Just sitting around in that plush environment with all those naked women walking and lounging around is a highly pleasurable experience. Even without 1-1 interaction, it is well worthwhile.

Overall, I felt the women were of rather high quality. As an aside, I found that I had some great conversations with some that I was not physically attracted to. One example is Victoria from Ukraine, tall with red hair and big breasts. She is very intelligent, well informed, good sense of humor. I probably spend close to an hour talking with her over the two days. I also had some good conversations with some of the guys at the bar.

Anyway, during the afternoons the supply of my particular drug (not too tall, no tats, thin, small breasts) was somewhat limited, but certainly available, and beginning at about dinner time became abundant.

I had good experiences and would recommend Natasha (long blond hair, 25, from Ukraine), Nadia (Morocco), and Charlotte (23, from Siberia.) I also experienced, but would not recommend, Julie (from Dusseldorf, tat on lower back) because of her obviously pneumatic mammaries. They are not huge, so I didn't notice until it was too late, but if like me you are completely turned off by silicone, she is not the woman for you.

Friday evening I fell in love - Jennifer (22, brown hair, from Dusseldorf, used to work at Atlantis.) This girl is an angel - a 10 from head to toe in my book. I spent two of the better hours of my life with this woman, and will dream about her for quite some time.

Questions -

I noticed that they all shave their pubes. Is this true everywhere? It makes them look 5 years old and is a bit of a turn off to me.

Right now, I feel no need to go anywhere other than the Palace. Is this a mistake?

Novize
11-30-04, 11:03
Dick Nagai,

Welcome to the club of the fkk-addicted and thanks for your nice report.

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, all girls shave. Most of them are shaved completely, some of them partially. I believe this is a good because of hygienic reasons. And I don´t like DATY on a non-shaved woman. But the last is a matter of taste. BTW, most girls prefer shaved customers for the same reasons.

2. Yes, it is a fault! Palace is a very nice club, but World, Oase, Beach,... are nice clubs too, delivering a different atmosphere. The variety is available, why not make use of it? Go there with friends, meet other forum-members and you will have lots of fun in every club.

GabrielPontello
11-30-04, 13:08
Right now, I feel no need to go anywhere other than the Palace. Is this a mistake?

I don't know yet if this is a mistake...

I 'll more properly answer at this question next wednesday night when I'll have spent all day at Palace...

right now I've just visited Atlantis, Oase, World and Parksauna and have liked all for different reasons

I hope to not be disappointed by this place !!

Girls For Fun
12-02-04, 04:27
I don't know yet if this is a mistake...

I 'll more properly answer at this question next wednesday night when I'll have spent all day at Palace...

right now I've just visited Atlantis, Oase, World and Parksauna and have liked all for different reasons

I hope to not be disappointed by this place !!

Hi!,
I am new to the Europe forum. I have been posting in the UAE,Dubai forum. I have read the excellents posts about these FKK Clubs. I was reading the FKK Oase section and someone mentioned that some of these Clubs are not welcoming/or discriminating against Asians/Non Whites. Is this true?. You experienced FKK punters out there, pls respond. I am planning to go to FKK Palace and probably Oase and do not want my experience to be not worthwhile. Pls some fast info guys.

In addition to that, I have mongered in brothels in Spain, where girls are clean and regularly checked by the shrink for STD'S. Any inputs/ideas is these girls are clean or get checked for STD's. Awaiting reply guys.

Girls For Fun

PpierLuigi200
12-02-04, 16:46
I am plannig to stay 2 days in frankfurt in an hotel close to the main airport and I would like to known:

1) How reach the palace from the airport by train+metro.

2) If it is better go on saturday or on sunday.

3) There are special party on these days.

I will post a review when I will come back.

Thanks a lot,

PP

Stiff6
12-02-04, 21:00
Hi guys,

my hotel in FFM had this great late-checkout policy, so I slept in on Friday, had a leasurely breakfast, and then got ready with some hours left before my flight.

So of course I used the occasion to revisit Palace. When I arrived there business was slow, maybe 7-10 girls and 5 customers. I hung around a while, enjoying the Palace atmosphere and the sauna and waited for a girl to come in to get me really going. After a while I decided that I might have some fun, even if none of the ladies was my particular type. I met Natacha (Ukraine) in the cinema and had a great BBBJ/CIM session with her. Her looks are not that great (too thin for my taste), but her BBBJ technique is excellent!

Then I had a little snack - salad and bread with ham and cheese. Great food - and I am picky! After I had eaten, Linda, (Czech brunette with huge melons) became available and I made sure to catch her attention before someone else did. We had some great couch action and then another nice CIM session, and all the time I really enjoyed the look and feel of her huge, soft boobs.

So it was a quiet but satisfying ending of a pleasant stay, and I think I'll have to make up another good excuse to fly to FFM again soon. (You guys talking about addiction are actually not so far off.)

stiff6

Novize
12-07-04, 20:41
Your first question has been answered already in this section. Just read it... ;)

Most probably Saturday will see more (male and female) guests than Sunday. The answer on your second question depends on what you prefer.

For answering your third question it would be very helpful to know the exact date of your visit.

GabrielPontello
12-09-04, 11:21
what a nice surprise!
The Palace can be correctly put in my personal "gotha" of the top level FKK for many reasons
the facilities are simply great, new, clean and luxury
the place is just 10euros away by taxi from the main station and the attendance is friendly and helpful

as for the girls, the place was crowded by 30/35 young beauties from all the world
there are not stars like those I saw at Atlantis in the past, but the average is very high and I've seen just few ones not interesting at all
I've been exploring the south america community until midnight then I turned to the former USSR, well represented by a lot of tall and thin blondes
Alice from the Dominicana Republic has been the top level as for beauty
she is a coloured 22yrs. old statue very difficult to score (I saw her free only few minutes in the 13 hour I spent there...)
Cristina from Colombia is the door beside kind of girl (I spent about 5 hours with her, inside and outside the bedroom), a very nice person
I can't remember the name of the other girls tested but I can assure that the technique has been excellent everytime
last positive surprise has been the food, truly tasty and fresh at every hour
I think this FKK will be one of the most popular in a short time

Toscana
12-09-04, 16:59
I must say, I agree with GabrielPontello's assessment.

Visited Oase on Monday (to avoid the Nikolaus parties at World and Palace) and Palace on Tuesday (to avoid dessous day at World).

As often reported on the Oase forum recently, there were an impressive number of women at Oase, even for a "slow" Monday evening. Indeed there were more than at Palace on Tuesday.

But I, like GP, was bowled over by the higher quality at Palace the next evening. Even recognizing that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Between 22.00 and 24.00 I just sat to one side and enjoyed the never-ending parade of must-do women. Must have been at least 30 what I would regard as specials, even if I maybe counted one or two twice, such was the profusion :). I actually caught myself musing, nah, can't do that one, almost perfect, but maybe buttock-crease to back of knee could be about 1/2 a cm longer. I mean, what is there for a lucky punter to complain about when paradise is that close? :)

It seems the other guys agreed. there was an incredible run on the rooms suddenly, and there was almost a secondary market opening up in room keys.

One new girl really stood out for me. Unfortunately I do not know her name or where she comes from. On the two occasions she was available and I could have approached her without being knocked aside in the rush, I had just come out of the room and was definitely unavailable myself. As she passed me on her tour round the place by a member of staff early on, I gawped and asked her if her nipples (never seen better) were available for escort. Got a beam, so she understands German, maybe she is German, don't know. I would otherwise have tipped Baltic. Anyway: tall (at least 1m75), confident but with a little fresh-eyed innocence, ready smile, blonde shoulder-length straight hair which she constantly puts into and out of a ponytail, superb medium to large, assisted breasts, long, long but not thin legs. Charisma pure. Anyone know who I mean? Would interest me to know. New to Palace she was, but not to the FKK system. She interviewed her candidates for no more than 3 minutes, set off for a room with them humbly in tow, and was finishing them off at the rate of about 3 an hour, I swear, so it seems she is efficient as well as popular. Her boldness was quite mesmerizing, even for an inveterate sceptic such as Tosc. Admittedly all pro her side, but 50 EUR of my money to indulge a fascination will be on the table next time for sure. OK, enough infatuation for one day.

Things change constantly, but for me at the moment, it's Palace.

GabrielPontello
12-09-04, 18:01
amazing point of view and description, Toscana
I noticed that girl for the ponytail sometimes she makes with her hair
she was in the Russian group just under the motorbike but didn't schocked me very much
I have indulged more in the latin american sector, as I told
I might just say that one of her closer collegue has an excellent oral technique though a deep lack of enthusiasm

Novize
12-09-04, 20:31
Perhaps it was this one?

name: Diana
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,80 m
figure: slender, siliconized B/C-breast
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1980
tattoos/piercings: none
service: full pro. great bbbj-experience
other:
location: ATL until 03/04, FKK-Palace since 03/04 (short intermission at FKK-Relax)

Also called "Barbie" by some mongers. Very goal-oriented since her ATL-days. But she can also deliver a great GFE, if she knows you a little better...

Beffen1
12-09-04, 23:46
Gentlemen,

Excellent news that Palace is on the upswing. I love their physical facilities and the food, just that on my two visits there so far, the lineup has been a little short on young looking Eastern Euro cuties I favor.

In my recent July, September, October and November trips, I had spent most of my time At FKK World and four trips to Oase, the last three during their current heyday period in November.

My first ever FKK experience was at Palace back in 2003 and I was impressed with the place. I did my first anal with the Lithuanian goddess Diana and met a hottie from Spain. I have thus far only returned once, in September, and had two rocking sessions, one with Angelika of Russia the superstar and another with a lovely mocha lady from the Seychelles. But the young hotties from E Europe were few compared to Oase and World. Now your intel says this is changing. I'm there.

I look forward to a return visit or two Christmas week. Anyone know of their schedule- is it like World and Oase: closed Dec 24 and open late (6PM) Dec 25 and 26? I'm looking for an FKK open on Dec 24.

beffen 1

Toscana
12-10-04, 09:42
thanks gp and novize.

well, diana sounds nice, and similar in description, except the one i saw i would put in the fuller c range and not so very slender. furthermore she was definitely new to palace. not only was she shown around the premises, but she also had difficulty working out the key system at first. doubt it somehow.

and she was working the place alone, gp, and did not join the brood beneath the bike while i was there at any rate. she generally made a bee-line for the light blue sofa beside the stairs near the bike (prime position, that), played with her hair for two minutes before draping herself over the next plucky punter. she's definitely clever.

any other ideas? definitely worth going back there to investigate anyway. :)

GabrielPontello
12-10-04, 09:52
that position has been frequently holded by a girl same kind you described but she didn't inspired me due to a too serious expression on her face
anyway to leave any doubt home we have to take a look again, I agree !

Novize
12-10-04, 15:32
Any other ideas?No. I think I´ll have to do the investigations. I will report then... ;)

Valmont
12-15-04, 18:35
Went to Paradise on Monday. I got there at around 1600 or so, and it wasn't crowded at all, as I suspected.

By the time I got ready for my first jaunt, I'd been there roughly an hour or so, and had seen about 25 girls walking around. I've noticed that at Paradise, the girls have no qualms at all about walking around totally nude. Not that I'm complaining. Far from it actually. I was about to pick a tall girl with long blonde hair and fake D cup breasts, when I noticed that Dianna was there. On the shorter side, she had fake B cups, long blonde hair and one of the best faces I've ever seen. God bless women who are too good looking to work in an FKK club, but thankfully, do it anyway.

Dianna, from Lithuania, was everything you guys said, with the best BBBJ technique I've ever had at an FKK. Once our session was over I seriously could have left then and been happy.

I won't go into the specifics of the layout of the club except to say that the big whirlpool thing is heaven.

For my second round, I chose a tall girl with long black hair, natural D cup breasts who said her name was Kristianna, from Romania. She was another outstanding choice, in fact offered not only BBBJ, but also CIM, on her boobs, and even anal.

Palace is definitely a great place. I'd recommend it to anyone. By the time I left at around 8:30, there were at least 30 girls there, and less than 25 guys. Good odds, fellas.

Novize
12-15-04, 18:58
The tall blonde with siliconized D-Cups could have been Cindy, who is said to be back at Palace. That would have been a great choice, too!

Dedalus
12-17-04, 09:44
"The tall blonde with siliconized D-Cups could have been Cindy, who is said to be back at Palace. That would have been a great choice, too!"


Yeah, I read that bit of info on the Roemerforum. This would be great news. Although I think Cindy is one of the best out there, since she moved to Augsburg I have not had enough reason to drag myself all the way out there, even for her.

I hope that she will be there in January. At the moment I am in the land of the free and the home of the brave and the absence of FKKs. (Sob).

Cheers,

Dedalus


P.S. Novize, does anyone know if this is a long-term move for Cindy or is it only temporary?

Novize
12-17-04, 10:01
Only Cindy herself will know that.

But I believe (and hope!) that she will stay in the Rhein-Main-area for a longer time. She always felt comfortable here. Unfortunately, I won´t have the time to ask her before Christmas :( , but I´ll try to find out in early January.

Dedalus
12-17-04, 20:01
"Unfortunately, I won´t have the time to ask her before Christmas"


My condolences. It must be difficult for you. Whatever shall we do till January? I will hit Palace on the 10th or 11th and ask Cindy what her plans are personally. ;)

Dedalus

Novize
12-18-04, 12:41
My condolences.DedalusThank you. I´ll wear a black towel at Beacht tomorrow and at World next Wednesday. ;)

Jenbach
12-18-04, 22:22
Hello Forum Members:

Does anyone have information on the Golden Ball, supposed to be on or from 23 December 2004, according to The Palace webpage? If a few members are going to be at this event, we could have a WSG Christmas Party!

Cheers!

ChicagoMan

Jenbach
12-18-04, 22:51
Hello Forum Members:

Does anyone have information on the Golden Ball, supposed to be on or from 23 December 2004, according to The Palace webpage? If a few members are going to be at this event, we could have a WSG Christmas Party!

Cheers!

ChicagoMan

Novize
12-19-04, 10:25
"Golden Ball" just is a kind of lottery. If you pick the Golden Ball when entering the Club, you can win free entrance, half an hour with a girl of your choice or whatever is the price for that day. This "Christmas Lottery" is offered every day until Dec. 23rd

Beffen1
12-24-04, 15:44
Palace was very low key on Thursday Dec 23, about 20-25 girls and about as many men. There were waits for rooms and at times there were only one or two girls present in the main room. I had two GFE's and a total flop of a threesome. I started with Natalie, a gorgeous 26 year old Pam Anderson type from Belarus with enhanced but natural looking perky c-cups who gave me very nice porn star GFE- what an ass. Next, I met Marina, a 23 year old Lithuanian with a perfect natural hard body, clit ring, and one of the best and most tireless BJ techniques I have encountered, she blew me superblz for 30 minutes. She tasted fine too and looked might appetizing. I spent a delightful hour with her. As we emerged from our one hour session, I met the Desert Fox at the safe boxes paying his beautiful girlfriend Diana. It turns out that Diana and Marina are sisters! So we did a sister act. I vowed to visit the sister soon.

I did just that about an hour and a half later, after Fox and I had some dinner and relaxed to watch the lissome dancer do her stuff on the revolving motorcycle. But one man's pleasure can be another man's poison.

Finally, Dianna was free and I requested a room before someone else snatched her up. No preliminaries, no couch trial, she was matter of fact and all business.There were no rooms available so we sat on a nearby couch to wait but she immediately ran off and came back with an attractive cousin and started selling me on a threesome. I declined but she persisted and I finally agreed.

As they sat on either side of me it felt awkward and forced. Then they tried to sell me lesbo act and since I don't like acting or the pricing for this option at the FKK clubs, I again declined. They began messing with Peppy and started making out together and with me. I reminded them I did not want to pay for lesbo but thez continued. Their English was very limited I should add. Finally we got a room and again we discussed the payment- they insisted they began lesbo and I was to pay for it. I refused and just lay there holding my ground. Finally they relented about the 50 euro per girl lesbo surcharge but of course the damage was done- Diana just sulked, refused to let me play with her and gave an uninspired hand job while her "cousin" did most of the rest. Finally Diana grudgingly mounted me for some vicious cowgirl as the cousin blocked my view as she sat on my face, it really sucked.

When Diana caught me checking my watch so as not to go over 30 minute with this dreadful experince, Diana got even nastier and I aborted this fiasco after 20 minutes. I did not report her to management because my friend is close to her and she knows I am his friend and I dont want to spoil his action. When we emerged, the cousin came for the money while Diana went to talk to her beloved Fox. SCHIESSE. Desert Fox did visit with the sister Marina later in the evening and enjoyed as much as I did. But for me, the night was finished- sauna and relax until 4 AM departure.

I must sign off now since they are moving the Monopol business center to the Excelsior while they close the Monopol for a couple of days. Today is Christmas eve and no clubs are open so it is a day of rest for me. Later dudes and merry XXXmas.

Beffen

Valmont
12-25-04, 19:22
Beffen,

I can't believe Diana left a bad taste in your mouth. She is one of the best, nicest, and most fun girls I've been with at an FKK. That surprises me, but I do believe you. Everyone has a bad day, that's for sure. Perhaps this was Diana's bad day. I'd ask that you not judge her on that experience, but rather try her again by herself.

V

Novize
12-25-04, 19:56
Of course everybody has a bad day from time to time, but that was a rip-off.

If I had experienced that it would be reason enough for me to avoid her in the future.

Langsuan Man
12-25-04, 23:53
Beffen was kind using the term "low key". for his description of Palace on Thursday night. I would have described it as "provider empty". I got there at just around 09:30 and realized immediately that I should have eaten my 65 Euro entrance fee and gone on to World or Oase. The big jacuzzi wasn't working and most of the food was gone by the time I got there.

At the most I saw maybe four girls alone at any one time for the two hours I was there. They were in and out of the rooms all night and most of the time there would only be one or two girls on the floor. The dancers and bar maids of course don't count. There was no couch action since it was a sellers market. Guys would just walk up to a girl and they went immediately to a room. No interaction whatsoever because of the ratio. At one point I counted 35 guys lounged around the various sofas and not a female in sight.

I'm sure the girls were happy since they were doing non stop business. The Thai girl had 5 customers during the two hours I was there and I will leave it to you to do the math.

I finally approached an older Belgian girl who spoke excellent English and provided a satisfactory, if not spectacular session. Short and not very enthusiastic DFK but she did have a good technique of BBBJ and slipping the condom on before cowgirl. Startled me at first since I didn't know she had slipped it on. Definitely not GFE but I could tell that she and the rest realized this was the time to make money since there wasn't much competition.

My reasoning for going to Palace was to try it for the first time since it is the club that is only 10 minutes from my apartment. I also figured that it might not be so crowded (male) since it was so close to the holiday. Oh well live and learn. Won't condemn the club after only one off experience due to the time of the year. But will definitely inquire in the future if the whirlpool is working or not; since I can always justify the entrance fee if I at least get that relaxation.

Respectfully reported,

LSM

Beffen1
12-26-04, 17:22
The Diana involved in my ripoff threesome is the younger, slimmer one with beautiful natural breasts and a somewhat angular face, NOT bigger perfect porno queen Barbie-Diana with the very long hair and silicone with whom I did my first anal on my second visit to Palace. I really should have complained to management. They totally played me as a tourist amateur. I should have flatly refused the second girl. I should have walked out of that room. But the super sessions with Marina and Natalie made for splendid evening nonetheless.

I would never ever dream of even approaching this Diana again, she is as contemptuous of me as I am of her. There are too many other fish in the sea. Besides, her face isnt so pretty IMHO

Beffen 1

Dedalus
12-26-04, 18:49
Oh, that Diana. I went with her once several months ago. It was an ok session and I liked that she left her high-heels on. Not sure that I would repeat a session with her if one of my Top-acts were available.

Dedalus