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Casinos: hold-em at Veneto around 7pm.
Also at casino in Multiplaza Mall around 7pm.
Parque National Metropalitano: 5 minute cab ride to miles of hiking trails in rainforest park.
Monkeys, sloths, armadillos, birds, butterflies and lots of insects. $2 tourist admission. Be sure to buy a bottle or two of water in the office before you start up the trails. Great views of the whole city from the top, assuming you make it that far. Bring your camera.
Chicas: I did very well from.
www.mundoanuncio.com
Lots of ads from independent girls, some are in apartments with 2-3 other chicas. Unfortunately, they do not use street addresses in Panama City. Everything is refered to by a nearby landmark.
"we are in Barrio San Francisco, the 3rd apartment building around the corner from the Nissan dealer in apt 3a."
GPS will not help, bring your sense of adventure. I found 4 of the 5 places I started out for.
Not recommended for newbys.
Several of the newspapers have ads but no pictures.
I am not brave enough for this but you might be.
Other spots I liked:
Oriental Massage [see other reports] $60 10am-2pm / shift change at 6pm.
Habanos [see other reports] after 10pm, independent colombianas ask $200-300, most can be had for $80-100.
Bodeguita VIP: similar to Habanos, sometimes with live music. This is on Via Espana, about a block past the ice cream store, on the other side of the strreet. If you pass Via Argentina, you went to far.
Bocatorena[sp? ] and la mayor:
Both in same building at the entrance to Casco Viejo. Every cab driver knows la Mayor.
Bocatorena:
50+ chicas weekday afternoons, no english, I was only tourist. I never had any problems. Everyone was either very nice or just ignored me. Pricing is $12 for 12- 15 minutes.
$7 for chica, house gets $5 for the room. If you pay with a $20, you get $5 change. Be sure to bring $1's and $10's.
Beer is $1 and as usual, the more you drink, the better they look!
Chica drinks are $2. 50.
Girls range from horrible to fantastic, clearly something for everyone.
The rooms are disgusting.
You can talk to the girls for as long as you want to see if they will fit your needs, or just pick one and take her up to the rooms. Not necessary to say anything if you don't want to.
Most of the customers come for $1 beer and a little grab-ass but never take a chica.
La mayor:
Has a $2 cover, but it includes a drink ticket {clearly much more upscale]
Opens about 4pm, sometimes has dancers.
Chicas are $30/30 minutes, but be careful here as chica drinks are $5/$10/$30
When you leave La Mayor, walk up the hill to the old city CASCO VIEJO. It"s about 5 blocks square. The old buildings are being restored to expensive condos and pricey restaurants. New hotels are being built. They are trying to preserve as many of the old structures as possible. The capitol buildings are in here also along with some small museums. Many of the poor locals who lived here for generations are being displaced. There is a place for pobrecitos but it is no longer in Casco Viejo.
Hammerin Hank
01-30-11, 16:03
What is the current price at GOLDEN TIME?
What is the current price at GOLDEN TIME?Last time I was there about middle of last September the price with a cab dropping you off was about 130. I am heading down mid feb so I can update you guys then.
Longtimer2
01-30-11, 21:38
If anyone is currently in Panama please keep us updated in the next week or so how the bar is turning out and if women are frequenting back there. Appreciate it.The next day, this past Friday, Habano's was back to normal. About 20-25 chicas most of the night. There was a minor panic about 11 PM and half of them ran out because they were tipped off to a raid, but it turned out to be a false alarm. (Half of them stayed.) Most of them were back within an hour or so.
It varies night by night depending on whether the girls have been tipped off that an operation is scheduled. Then they stay home. A couple of Fridays ago there were only about 3 girls there, I'm sure because they heard something was up. The following night there were plenty. You have to play it by ear. If the bar is empty one night just go back the next.
Something new since I was going there last year is strippers in the upstairs bar. The ones I saw were quite gymnastic but mostly not that great looking. The price seems to be $150 + $25 bar fine.
Rippa.
I think you have been going to all the wrong places on all four continents my friend.
Here is the Panamanian girl.
Cheers
The next day, this past Friday, Habano's was back to normal. About 20-25 chicas most of the night. There was a minor panic about 11 PM and half of them ran out because they were tipped off to a raid, but it turned out to be a false alarm. (Half of them stayed.) Most of them were back within an hour or so.There was a big crack down this past week, even made it to the news on the tv. Common sense might dictate to stay clear for awhile until the dust settles down to avoid any uncomfortable situations with La Migra, the chief of the raid was a woman so you know how bitching those might get.
Go the venetos, bodeguita in the mean time, but if you feel confident go and hit habanos to see hows everything
What is the current price at GOLDEN TIME?Went 2 nights ago, it was $85 without getting dropped off by a cab.
There was a big crack down this past week, even made it to the news on the tv. Common sense might dictate to stay clear for awhile until the dust settles down to avoid any uncomfortable situations with La Migra, the chief of the raid was a woman so you know how bitching those might get.
Go the venetos, bodeguita in the mean time, but if you feel confident go and hit habanos to see hows everything.Thanks for the reply. Had a friend of mine who said nothing has changed there. Just need to play it by ear each day. Hopefully this raid doesn't affect both veneto or bodagueita. Any thought?
Thanks for the reply. Had a friend of mine who said nothing has changed there. Just need to play it by ear each day. Hopefully this raid doesn't affect both veneto or bodagueita. Any thought?Bodeguita and venetto rarely get affected by this type of raids. Bodeguita has a higher chance of getting hit due to been a smaller business than the huge venetto hotel.
I've been getting reports that the other place in calle uruguay, don't recall the name, is getting lots of lookers. The place is right in the corner of the Don Lee street, the one that comes from Fridays, almost in front of the Prive Lounge and Bar Seis
Bodeguita and venetto rarely get affected by this type of raids. Bodeguita has a higher chance of getting hit due to been a smaller business than the huge venetto hotel.
I've been getting reports that the other place in calle uruguay, don't recall the name, is getting lots of lookers. The place is right in the corner of the Don Lee street, the one that comes from Fridays, almost in front of the Prive Lounge and Bar SeisI assume you mean hookers not lookers hehehehehe. I think you are talking about sahara's? They have an outdoor patio.
Longtimer2
02-01-11, 06:36
There was a big crack down this past week, even made it to the news on the tv.Just because it made the news for once doesn't mean it was anything out of the ordinary. Like I said, things were back to normal the very next day.
Just because it made the news for once doesn't mean it was anything out of the ordinary. Like I said, things were back to normal the very next day.Thanks crazy. Love Panama. Can't wait to get down there again. Do you know what the going rate is about down there I heard women can be had for like 60 and hour? Some tough economic times down there. Any thoughts?
I assume you mean hookers not lookers hehehehehe. I think you are talking about sahara's? They have an outdoor patio.Not sahara (BTW, sahara is out of business!) , you can't miss it if walking like going to the greek restaurant in the corner of the gas station, like going to elite
Just because it made the news for once doesn't mean it was anything out of the ordinary. Like I said, things were back to normal the very next day.Well, here in Panama, if it makes to the news, is a big deal, because the place stands hot in the popular radar, and the authorities flex their muscle when this happens to appear like they are doing their job
Not sahara (BTW, sahara is out of business!) , you can't miss it if walking like going to the greek restaurant in the corner of the gas station, like going to eliteI think the place you are talking about is the new Bodegita.
I think the place you are talking about is the new Bodegita.Yes that is it. When I was there in sep cab driver told me they opened another Bodegita. They have an outdoor patio but when I went it was quite. Everyone was at VIP bodequita. Maybe its changed.
I have a couple of pics but not sure if I should post them or not. Don't want her to get into any trouble. But then again hope any pics posted might give her more business. Thoughts?You could do her a favor by putting her phone number and name so at least another member could call her.
Friends,
Carnival is just around the corner, March 4th thru 8th. The city itself is going to be DEAD as far regular night time activities.
Joints will be open of course, but you won't see the same activity as the rest of the year, and I bet the pros from habanos, bodeguita, etc are all set with dates for carnival leaving for beaches, the provinces.
So I'll write down some popular destinations, not the most crowded but still very popular.
1. Panama City: if you plan to come or you are schedule to come during this days, there will be some carnival activities in the city, specifically in the coastal way (cinta costera). Be on an escalated state of alert, as tourist become prime targets for robbers, even when there is an increase in police units during the events.
Most hotels might have some artists and the like.
2. Penonome: Try to see if there is a day trip with the hotel to this town, is one of the first major stops for the carnival, about 2 hours from the city. Expect big concentrations of people for the "culecos", big water trucks with hoses attached throwing water to all the attendants while they drink themselves into oblivion under the blistering sun.
Practice good common sense, have copies of your passport, bring just enough cash with you, try to leave most valuables and electronics at your place, since they are bound to get wet (use ziplocs or waterproof packs if your gadget has one).
3. Ocu: about 3 hours from the capital, the crowd here is from the middle upper, upper echelons of society so will have a nicer and relaxed time. Same as above but with a lower alert level. Big gathering of people.
4. Las Tablas: Well worth 4 hours away from the city. This is one of the most crowded places during the carnival. Extreme Opsec is advised, same advices as above regarding valuables, money, etc.
5. Beaches: Nikki Beach, Decameron, your pick. Good luck finding vacancy as many people stay some days at the beach and then go to the above places and back to their hotels.
Hope this miniguide helps you!
Just came back from pty and had an absolute horrible time. Been there 4 times and this is by far the worst. Women starting with 150 and hour and only about a handful of women at the veneto, habanos etc. Immigration is scaring these women away. Friday was dead because there was a call that immigration was going to show up. Lots, lots of american people there. I feel that the secret of Panama city is over.
MilesLong23
02-26-11, 21:36
Just saw recent post on 2-23-2011 with not too good news about Panama City. 4/9 to 4/16 are before Easter celebrations so is the town still happening then or getting ready to shut down for upcoming holidays?
Darmstadter
02-27-11, 05:10
I'm heading down March 17th thru the 22nd staying at the torres de alba across the street from the veneto so will give a report when I return.
I'm heading down March 17th thru the 22nd staying at the torres de alba across the street from the veneto so will give a report when I return.Just found another article that was published on Feb 28 about another FAKE immigration raid. Like I said from my last trip. Panama city is not Panama city anymore. SAD.
About 25 women, mostly Colombians, were discovered in a "prophylactic" operation offering sexual services in the streets and nightclubs, and not carrying any documentation. Agents of Municipal Surveillance and the Justice of the Peace on duty, Genaro Barcenas, were deployed in various parts of the capital. They raided massage parlors, bars, nightclubs and other establishments on Ave. Mexico and Peru, as well as Calle Uruguay and Via Veneto, among others. (El Siglo)
Just saw recent post on 2-23-2011 with not too good news about Panama City. 4/9 to 4/16 are before Easter celebrations so is the town still happening then or getting ready to shut down for upcoming holidays?Easter week is completely dead, there is Dry Law (no alcohol sold) from Friday midnight till Saturday mighnight. Everyone heads for the beaches, provinces, etc. Just a few bars open on Saturday, but on most cases the city is deserted
Easter week is completely dead, there is Dry Law (no alcohol sold) from Friday midnight till Saturday mighnight. Everyone heads for the beaches, provinces, etc. Just a few bars open on Saturday, but on most cases the city is desertedBoca Torena opens at six Saturday morning after good Friday.
Darmstadter
03-18-11, 17:19
Arrived last night the 17th and staying across the street from the Veneto. Stopped in at the Veneto several times throughout the night and 10 to 20 chicas at any given time.
Walked on down to Habano's and it was business as usual. I'm guessing 30 to 50 chicas.
I'm here for 5 more nights and I just like PC better than san jose, CR. Maybe its a personal preference since I spent some time in the Military here.
Joey Smith
03-19-11, 18:02
Arrived last night the 17th and staying across the street from the Veneto. Stopped in at the Veneto several times throughout the night and 10 to 20 chicas at any given time.
Walked on down to Habano's and it was business as usual. I'm guessing 30 to 50 chicas.
I'm here for 5 more nights and I just like PC better than san jose, CR. Maybe its a personal preference since I spent some time in the Military here.thanks for the latest update. Will be in town in 2 weeks and was wondering if the action was still good. Sounds like its still shaking.
Darmstadter
03-19-11, 21:41
Friday March 18th was a different story. A handful of chica's in the Veneto and I counted a total of 4 at Habano's.
Talked to a dominican I took back to my place and she said there was rumor of a bust by immigration so all the girls were staying home.
From what I can tell it will just be hit or miss. Ok I'm out.
Will report more when I get back to the states.
Beerdrinker
03-20-11, 05:19
I will be traveling somewhere next week. Not sure if I want to do CR or DR again. Or possibly try Panama for my 1st time. What hotels are in the middle of the action and chica friendly? What are the costs for chicas ST or LT? Any advice friends for a monger traveling alone? I speak some Spanish. Please reply in the forum or PM me. Thanks!
Darmstadter
03-20-11, 17:02
I will be traveling somewhere next week. Not sure if I want to do CR or DR again. Or possibly try Panama for my 1st time. What hotels are in the middle of the action and chica friendly? What are the costs for chicas ST or LT? Any advice friends for a monger traveling alone? I speak some Spanish. Please reply in the forum or PM me. Thanks!I know that the Torres De ALba and the Veneto are chica friendly. I'm sure there are others. $100 st is all I know.
Met someone who stays at a place about 3 blocks from the action called city suites but I have never stayed there.
Darmstadter
03-20-11, 19:56
After a slow night Friday it was back to business as usual once the fear of the Immigration raid was over.
Many chica's in the Veneto and Habano's also.
When I'm on vacation I don't like to venture out much. I like everything within walking distance of where I stay so I don't have any experienece with other parts of the city.
Two more nights in PC then its back to reality.
Beerdrinker
03-21-11, 01:37
How much is the cost for an hour with a chica? Where is the best pickup spot? Anyone ever stay at city suites? Is it chica friendly? PM me. Or respond in the forum. Thanks.
Hi guys. Need some advice. Going to be in Panama city with my wife in may for a couple of nights. Usually I slip away in the afternoon to "go for a walk". Any suggestions for a place to me to monger in the afternoon and a nice hotel for us to stay at, not too far away. Obviously I won't be bringing a girl back to my hotel.
I have been to Panama city once before and I stayed with a Colmobian girl that I know in her tiny "apartment" (actually a bunch of small rooms divided off of a big apartment where the tenants shared the bathrooms and the kitchen.) , not too far from Veneto hotel and casino. I was thinking perhaps Golden Time masaje in Plaza Mirage and stay at the Toscana Inn on Via Espana why Calle D. Are there love motels in Panama?
Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.
-zing
The Dirty Pirate
03-21-11, 22:36
So I cashed in some AA miles and got a weekend at Torres de Alba in one of the "superior" suites. I've read they had some construction in the past, does anyone know if this is just a suite in the new tower or are there some upgrades for the superior suite versus the regular? The trip isn't until May but I have to start my homework now I guess, haha. Looks like I am across the street from the Veneto so that's a start. Could anyone provide some info on Texas holdem there? Is there actually some decent game play, any daily tournaments, and is there a full game 24/7? Thanks in advance.
Hi guys. Need some advice. Going to be in Panama city with my wife in may for a couple of nights. Usually I slip away in the afternoon to "go for a walk". Any suggestions for a place to me to monger in the afternoon and a nice hotel for us to stay at, not too far away. Obviously I won't be bringing a girl back to my hotel.
I have been to Panama city once before and I stayed with a Colmobian girl that I know in her tiny "apartment" (actually a bunch of small rooms divided off of a big apartment where the tenants shared the bathrooms and the kitchen.) , not too far from Veneto hotel and casino. I was thinking perhaps Golden Time masaje in Plaza Mirage and stay at the Toscana Inn on Via Espana why Calle D. Are there love motels in Panama?
Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.
-zingThe best day time action is Boca Torena around the coner from the fish market. You might run into some of the campo girls. Boca Torena is the colombian girls little secert places to work they do not like to talk about it. Some men make love in there boots and dream there are between silk sheets oh ya thats Boca Torena.
Vincelee76
03-24-11, 20:00
Arrived last night the 17th and staying across the street from the Veneto. Stopped in at the Veneto several times throughout the night and 10 to 20 chicas at any given time.
Walked on down to Habano's and it was business as usual. I'm guessing 30 to 50 chicas.
I'm here for 5 more nights and I just like PC better than san jose, CR. Maybe its a personal preference since I spent some time in the Military here.How much are the chicas there?
Vincelee76
03-24-11, 20:01
Hello everyone,
I am thinking about traveling to Panama city for mongering. Can you guys help me? How much a chica friendly hotels? And how much are chicas there? Any information would help.
Thanks again
Hammerin Hank
03-25-11, 13:05
Anyone at the VENETO now? I am on the 17th floor. Will be here till Monday morning.
Hammerin Hank
03-25-11, 13:11
Anyone know of any good taxi drivers? Everyone I've rode with s*ck
Anyone know of any good taxi drivers? Everyone I've rode with s*ckYes ask for LUIS or JAVIER they work outside of veneto at night and are great guys.
Tell them them Cristobal from US says Hello.
Hammerin Hank
03-26-11, 02:41
So I cashed in some AA miles and got a weekend at Torres de Alba in one of the "superior" suites. I've read they had some construction in the past, does anyone know if this is just a suite in the new tower or are there some upgrades for the superior suite versus the regular? The trip isn't until May but I have to start my homework now I guess, haha. Looks like I am across the street from the Veneto so that's a start. Could anyone provide some info on Texas holdem there? Is there actually some decent game play, any daily tournaments, and is there a full game 24/7? Thanks in advance.Texas hold them starts at 7pm. Torre de alba looks nice from the outside you have to walk up one flight of stairs to get to reception
The best day time action is Boca Torena around the coner from the fish market. You might run into some of the campo girls. Boca Torena is the colombian girls little secert places to work they do not like to talk about it. Some men make love in there boots and dream there are between silk sheets oh ya thats Boca Torena.Whats the pricing like at Boca Torena? Is the fish market near the Veneto? Thanks!
Hi guys. Need some advice. Going to be in Panama city with my wife in may for a couple of nights. Usually I slip away in the afternoon to "go for a walk". Any suggestions for a place to me to monger in the afternoon and a nice hotel for us to stay at, not too far away. Obviously I won't be bringing a girl back to my hotel.
I have been to Panama city once before and I stayed with a Colmobian girl that I know in her tiny "apartment" (actually a bunch of small rooms divided off of a big apartment where the tenants shared the bathrooms and the kitchen.) , not too far from Veneto hotel and casino. I was thinking perhaps Golden Time masaje in Plaza Mirage and stay at the Toscana Inn on Via Espana why Calle D. Are there love motels in Panama?
Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.
-zingGolden Time doesn't open until about 7:30 PM, although there's Miami Club and a massage place nearby that are open in the afternoons, or at least were last time I checked, two or three years ago. The Toscanna Inn isn't close to GT, although it is convenient, in that it's located right on Avenida Manuel Espinosa -- that street changes its name to Tumba Muerto as you go north, and goes right by GT -- maybe a 10 minute taxi ride in the evening. I wouldn't recommend trying to find a hotel close to GT, as there aren't a lot of good lodging options, and I don't think it's a good location if you're doing tourist things.
There are massage parlors all over town that are open during the day. Oasis close to the Veneto is one of them. There are also love motels. The ones I've been to are on Transmistica (I'm probably misspelling it) where it intersects with Tumba Muerto, which is fairly convenient to Golden Time but not to downtown. There have been other options mentioned here, including Los Arcos and Montreal Hotel, which are more along the lines of cheap hotels close to Espana rather than love hotels.
Zing, I'm having problems editing my message. Anyway, Toscanna Inn is close to Oasis. Other hotels that are close are the Veneto, El Panama, Torres de Alba, Riande Continental and Crowne Plaza. Oasis has a decent selection of women from 11:00 AM onward, so that might be your best bet, if you're looking for a place within walking distance. Veneto is a nice hotel, Riande Continental is nice if you get a room on a high floor (to avoid traffic noise), and I haven't stayed at any of the rest.
whats the pricing like at boca torena? is the fish market near the veneto? thanks!i paid $20 for the best looking 30 yo columbiana in the place less than a year ago. if you are a local, it's a little less (where in the world is that not true?)
this place is for true 'guerilla' style mongering, guys, and not for the faint of heart. the bar is hot, the crowd rough looking, and the long walk up the stairs to your 20 minute 'love nest' absolutely reeks of stale beer and [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109). but if you have the nerve for it, there's no place better for cheap p4p in pc, and a place every true punter in panama should not miss.
best advise i can give, go during the day, and bring a wing man if you can.
i paid $20 for the best looking 30 yo columbiana in the place less than a year ago. if you are a local, it's a little less (where in the world is that not true?)
this place is for true 'guerilla' style mongering, guys, and not for the faint of heart. the bar is hot, the crowd rough looking, and the long walk up the stairs to your 20 minute 'love nest' absolutely reeks of stale beer and [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109). but if you have the nerve for it, there's no place better for cheap p4p in pc, and a place every true punter in panama should not miss.
best advise i can give, go during the day, and bring a wing man if you can. thanks rippa! i defenitly go during the day!
Thanks Rippa! I defenitly go during the day!The price a year ago was ten dollars. I talk to some girls in Campo Alegre in Dec 2010 and they told me the price when up to 15 USA at Boca Torena. I was there in Nov. 09 and the price was ten USA I was paying 12 USA for BBBJ and push. It is one of my forvite places. If you can get in there at around 7:00 am I found some real lookers hoping to hook up with a bussiness man for the day and that is the only time of day I ever seen them and Saturdays is a great day in Boca Torena you will find some girls that only come on that day. I am in China today and can not wait to get back to some tits and ass. The China girls have a different touch and way about them which is much different than western girls it has been very refreshing.
Pajama Sam
03-30-11, 04:29
Fellow Mongers,
I have not heard anyone mention the newly opened second floor at Habano's.
The owner has a nice bar and working girls dancing and mingling with the patrons. It is a different scene than the one downstairs. You can actually talk, dance and grind with the lady of your choice. I actually met a real looker there and hit it off. We went dancing afterwards and she didn't want to charge me as she had a great night.
Treating a working girl like a human being goes a long way.
Anyways check it out.
By the way I will be in Panama starting Monday if there are any fellow mongers who would like to get together for beers and chicas.
Cheers
Just a bad imitation of Golden Times. Same routine as GT, same price as GT, just high mileage Columbianas from central casting with bad bolt ons. If you want GT quality, stick to GT.
Eight alleged members of an international network that sent an average of five Colombian women per month to Panama to work as prostitutes were arrested in Colombia, according to intelligence sources. In addition, the Colombian Department of Administrative Security (DAS) asked the Attorney General to request the collaboration of Panamanian authorities in order to identify and take action against three Spaniards who act as the "receivers" of the Colombians in the neighboring country (Panama). The network, which is also engaged in money laundering, was disbanded after a year and a half intelligence operation called "Operacióand Matecaña" which took place in the cities of Pereira and Armenia (west-central Colombia). The head of the DAS, Felipe Munoz, said the network employed expert "recruiters" to convince young women to be taken to Panama to work as prostitutes. In Panama, according to the DAS, the Colombian women were received by three Spanish citizens, who, according to intelligence reports,"own many nightlife establishments and hotels." The Spaniards would charge the women a commission to work as prostitutes in the of Colon (Panama) and it "represented an income of $10, 000 per month from each victim for the organization," the statement said. In Colon the network "maintained at least 50 young women, exploiting them in the bars, clubs and hotels in the city," which generated "nearly $500, 000 a month," added the DAS. The DAS estimates that in the past two years "nearly 120 Colombian women were taken by this network outside of the country (Colombia) , for purposes of prostitution." Only about 20% of these women were able to return to Colombia,"once they had paid back the money invested in them by the organization for plane tickets, food, and lodging," said the intelligence agency. From Panama, the money was sent to Colombia through wire transfers in small quantities, which could be in pesos or dollars, and were charged by the network's partners in Pereira, Manizales, Armenia, Chinchiná and Bogotá, as well as other cities. (Panama America)
TravelDude
04-05-11, 01:53
Fellow Mongers,
I have not heard anyone mention the newly opened second floor at Habano's.
The owner has a nice bar and working girls dancing and mingling with the patrons. It is a different scene than the one downstairs. You can actually talk, dance and grind with the lady of your choice. I actually met a real looker there and hit it off. We went dancing afterwards and she didn't want to charge me as she had a great night.
Treating a working girl like a human being goes a long way.
Anyways check it out.
By the way I will be in Panama starting Monday if there are any fellow mongers who would like to get together for beers and chicas.
CheersYou are correct, three months ago the opened the top level and it is quite nice. Not many girls go up there but it is cool. Wsn't sure what was up with the dancers, now I have a better idea but still not positive. Closed Sundays, but the rest is open. Spent some time up there doing shots, excellent service, real nice bartenders. I believe they charge more for drinks up there (or maybe it was just the Patron shots we were doing.). I will out tonight wearing a white shirt blue and green stripes, will stop by habanos say Hi if you see me. Gauchos first.
You are correct, three months ago the opened the top level and it is quite nice. Not many girls go up there but it is cool. Wsn't sure what was up with the dancers, now I have a better idea but still not positive. Closed Sundays, but the rest is open. Spent some time up there doing shots, excellent service, real nice bartenders. I believe they charge more for drinks up there (or maybe it was just the Patron shots we were doing.). I will out tonight wearing a white shirt blue and green stripes, will stop by habanos say Hi if you see me. Gauchos first.My understanding is the owner wanted to have a place for on-site P4P, mostly to accommodate the Marriott guests who can't get girls up to their rooms.
Are Habanos and Le Palace still closed on Sundays? And are La Bodeguita, Miami, Golden Time and Elite still open? Also, does anyone have the address of the new La Bodeguita, or can you describe where it's close to or a cross street on Espana?
Thanks
Are Habanos and Le Palace still closed on Sundays? And are La Bodeguita, Miami, Golden Time and Elite still open? Also, does anyone have the address of the new La Bodeguita, or can you describe where it's close to or a cross street on Espana?
ThanksHabanos is now open on Sundays but Le palace is closed. La bodeguita, miami golden time and elite are open as well. The VIP bodeguita is on espana. Just ask any cab driver and they will know. Its about 5 minutes from the Veneto.
Pajama Sam
04-16-11, 00:23
Fellow Mongers,
I went to Panama a week ago. I took a taxi from the airport ($28. 00) and went to El Rey to buy a few things like water, vodka, mixer, yogurt, cheese.
After checking into my hotel, decided I wanted a massage to ease the stress of the plane ride. I called a girl that announces herself as Stephanie. She is Chinese / Panamenian and has a couple of girls that do massage only (with very happy ending). The cost is pricey ($50) , but the quality is very good. I have used her twice and both times attained explosive results. Very high quality massage followed by expert hand job. My last massage was almost 30 minutes of manual bliss applied by a nice looking girl. I didn't push for more as I was extremely satisfied. The massage includes scrub before and then a soap down to remove excess oils apres.
That night, Monday, I cruised Habano's. There were at least 60 girls there (did I mention it was a Monday night). The range went from 6 to some fabulous 10's with a median of 8, all ages too but a high concentration of girls in their early to mid 20s.
I also tried mundoanuncio. Com, I must say I was a little disappointed. Some of the girls had taken very good pics to post and possibly had some retouching. This approach is functional only for those who speak decent spanish so you can agree upfront on the type of provider and type of service.
The Venetto was full of chica's as well. IMHO I think Habano's has the best lookers by far.
All in all, I paid a low of $60 and high of $75 for the full service and $50 plus tip for the massage.
Panama is a great mongering destination. By the way, I just hooked up with a tour operator that will take me and a girl to the beach for very decent rates. There are some great places about an hour away with white sand and beautiful surroundings.
Monger on!
Whats the deal. Why is their no heads up on this. A Little advance notice for a newbie would be appreciated.
Gringo7900
04-22-11, 17:10
Le Palace is a great place, the girl charges $ 200. $ 250, place $ 200
I was in Panama last week, and had a good time. I spent time with four Colombians and all were great. Here's a rundown,
1. Moulin Rouge. This just so happened to be close to my hotel and I was looking for a way to kill some time on a Thursday afternoon. Moulin Rouge opens at 12:00 noon and has a nice bar in addition to good rooms on site. There were about 10 women there at 4:00 PM and I was the only customer. The price is $85 for 30 minutes and $125 for an hour, about double what you'd pay at some other massage places, but given the location and the quality of the facility, and the bar, it's not unreasonable. I went with Natalie, mid-20's, from Cali. Very good, girlfriend-like service. Moulin Rouge is next to Oasis. If you're walking from the Veneto to Via Espana and keep an eye out to your right you can't miss it. Natalie was the only woman available during the day that I would have gone with, but I understand the talent improves at night. And they have dancing girls then too.
2. Habano's. I went one night about 1:00 AM, not intending to pull anyone. There were a lot of women, maybe about 40. There was only one that I'd class as "9" though, and perhaps two 8's. I got phone numbers from the two eights, but didn't hear back from them when I called back the next day.
3. Le Palace. I only spent about 15 minutes here and the talent was dismal, considering the place's reputation. I've always thought the place was overrated.
4. Veneto Casino. After say 10:00 PM or so there was always good talent available here, maybe not quite as good as Habano's on average, but awfully close. Earlier on, forget it. I had a great time with a very attractive 31 year old from Cali. She asked for $150, I agreed to $100 and said $150 if the service is excellent. It was, and she stayed until I kicked her out of the room, so she got the $150.
5. Based on Brownman's report, I called www.girlpanama.com. This was during the daytime on Sunday. I'd previously gone by Oasis, and the lady behind the cash register wouldn't let me see the three women she said were working that afternoon. I'd left my wallet in the room and she said come back with your money then she'd let me see the women. I figured they were dogs. Anyway, sorry for digressing, back to www.girlpanama.com. I asked for the pimp's suggestion. He said try Danna, a very beautiful, tender 19 year old. Well, in terms of appearance, Danna didn't measure up, and she said she was really 23 years old. She looked like she was older. But to me she was worth the $150 they charged. She was really good in the sack. I later noticed Danna hanging around Manolo's during the evening, talking to her friends and on her cell phone for hours. I'm sure she could have been had for less than the $150 but I was looking for something else that evening.
6. My best experience was pulled from Miami. I headed by there about 7:30 PM on a Sunday, intending to drink a few beers, watch the dancers, then head over to Golden Time. Anyway, the place was dead. There were three women, one hottie and two dogs. I started talking with the hottie and decided to do an all nighter. The cost was $325. We went to Amador, then back to my room and drank and screwed all night. Then to Casco Viejo the next day and back to the hotel for more drinking and screwing. The girls told me things don't really get going in Miami until about 9:00 PM. I've been there on two other occasions in the past and then found Miami to be the most fun and best value for a semi-upscale gentlemen's club of anywhere I visited in Panama.
7. Veneto Hotel. The hotel has deteriorated a lot since my last visit. This time I had some noise problems -- I could hear everything my neighbors were saying in the adjoining room. And some problems with the airconditioner. But, given the location, the availability of girls in the Casino, and no problem taking women to the rooms, I might stay there next time anyway.
Habanos is now open on Sundays but Le palace is closed. La bodeguita, miami golden time and elite are open as well. The VIP bodeguita is on espana. Just ask any cab driver and they will know. Its about 5 minutes from the Veneto.Good to hear the Veneto and Habanos is back in full swing. How is the VIP bodeguita? Was last there when they first opened up; late night bar, dark and loud, ouch! Saw most of the same girls from Habanos and Veneto go there about 1 a. M.
Got in around 9. Headed to Vegas Suites for a quick shower and change. Hit Veneto, Habanos, and later Bodeguita. Acceptable amount of hot girls, it is Semana Santa. Lots of girls from Cali. Ended up with a hot morena from Cali, after a lot of negotiating, got 2 hours for 120. These girls are asking for 150 for one hour. Anyway she gave good service. GFE. 7 more days, more to come.
Walked to the Rey, a mercado, and got some things for the room. Checked out the Oasis, didn't see anything mind blowing. Crusied through the Veneto a few times during the day, dead as far chicas. Around 430, was sitting in Manolos having a beer and got picked up by two Colombians, probably 7s. Had my first threesome for 120! It was good! Spent most of the evening playing Texas hold them. By the time I got done, won 90 bucks, there were about 20 girls in the Veneto, not bad for Easter. Went to Habanos and met a gorgeous girl from MDE, got met her number for this afternoon.
Columbian Lover
04-26-11, 01:57
Got in around 9. Headed to Vegas Suites for a quick shower and change. Hit Veneto, Habanos, and later Bodeguita. Acceptable amount of hot girls, it is Semana Santa. Lots of girls from Cali. Ended up with a hot morena from Cali, after a lot of negotiating, got 2 hours for 120. These girls are asking for 150 for one hour. Anyway she gave good service. GFE. 7 more days, more to come.Dear Brother,
What is Bodeguita is like?
I usually stay at the Veneto, so I have been there and Habanos a lot.
I want to the old Bodeguita many years ago.
I was looking for somewhere to go to meet non-working girls.
Any suggestions?
Got in around 9. Headed to Vegas Suites for a quick shower and change. Hit Veneto, Habanos, and later Bodeguita.I am going to Panama next month for the first time. I am thinking of staying at the Veneto or the Vegas Suites. There is plenty of info on Veneto, but can you tell us something about Vegas Suites?
Is it worth it? No hassle for guess? Clean and comfortable?
Thanks in advance.
Pajama Sam
04-26-11, 12:35
Hi,
Las Vegas Suites is a clean and comfortable stay. The rooms have full kitchens and laundry facilities. The view in the upper floors is better than Veneto's and they are chica friendly.
Monger On!
I am going to Panama next month for the first time. I am thinking of staying at the Veneto or the Vegas Suites. There is plenty of info on Veneto, but can you tell us something about Vegas Suites?
Is it worth it? No hassle for guess? Clean and comfortable?
Thanks in advance.
Dear Brother,
What is Bodeguita is like?
I usually stay at the Veneto, so I have been there and Habanos a lot.
I want to the old Bodeguita many years ago.
I was looking for somewhere to go to meet non-working girls.
Any suggestions? The club I referred to as Bodeguita is actually named Ah Che. Its where the chicas go now after Habanos. The Las Vegas Suites are nice. However, they do charge $20 per chica. Yesterday, hit Moulin Rouge in the afternoon, it has much better talent than Oasis, IMHO. I had a good session, with another Columbiana! I haven't had a Panamanian chica yet. Last night, hit Habanos and the Veneto, nice line up. After hours of haggling with different chicas, ended the night with a sexy negra from Cali. 120 for 2 hours. This girls push hard for 150 to 200. I miss MDE! LOL.
Panama City is a real point and click mongering location. You don't have to be in the know to find girls here and you won't need a guide. They are all easy to find in a variety of establishments. This report is for the El Dorado area. The simplest area in my opinion (but it depends on what you are after of course). In this area prices tend to be a bit cheaper than the popular places in downtown. Also, if you are worried about your Spanish, then you'll find the locals are very hard to understand (talk fast and with a strong accent) but the girls (all Colombian) are much easier. It's safe to walk around at night and taxis are cheap, although not always plentiful especially during the day.
All the main places in El Dorado have rooms on site, therefore no bar fines for taking the girls off premises and no dealing with the looks from locals with a pro in tow. Trust me, all the locals know the pros by sight. There are no Panamanian pros in the main areas, they are all Colombian, which stand out. I'm not sure what the technical legality of prostitution in Panama is but in terms of what is enforced, you can't pay for sex with a Panamanian but girls from Colombian are given working visas just for that, although technically for working as 'dancers'. However, the locals have a quite accepting mindset of P4P. Carry a photocopy of your license for the police, who walk the streets and will ask you from time to time. If the police or taxis ask you anything about Colombianas they are talking about pros. The term Colombiana basically refers to pros in Panama.
Firstly, with the taxis in Panama it is a little different to other countries. Here the taxi picks you and you don't get the taxi to yourself. You flag one down (even if it already has people in it) and if he stops you stick your head in, tell him your location and see if he agrees. If he agrees, ask how much (cuanto?). If you don't you'll get ripped off. Even when you ask before-hand if you're obviously a foreigner (appearance or accent) you're going to pay more than the locals, but not too much more. However, the taxi drivers won't overcharge you in front of locals (if there are some in the taxi). As of March 2011, I find that all trips inside the city should US$3 or less. At night they'll try and charge you more, but don't pay more than US$5. Also, don't get confused when they refer to Balboas instead of dollars, they are the same.
All the key places in El Dorado are around El Dorado Mall. All but one are on the same block.
I prefer this area because you won't be hassled by guys on the streets wanting to show you girls and there are decent places to go. Plus overall it's going to be a cheaper experience. If you get a taxi to El Dorado, get it to take you somewhere other than where you really want to go. Either ask for 'El Supermercado Rey en El Dorado' and go buy a coke, 'Niko's Café' and have a meal (this place is 24hrs) or 'Fantastic Casino' (no pros in this casino). If you ask to get taken directly to a place with girls, you'll pay extra for entry (that extra goes to the cab driver).
The places in El Dorado are:
Crazy Horse Strip Club – not a great place to be honest. It's next to Fantastic Casino, easy to find, they also have a website with a map. The strip shows are only occasional and not the best girls. About $100 for sex in a back room (I've never done it here). Some of the girls are OK, but you get hassled to buy drinks and get dirty looks when you take your time with your overpriced beer. Plus this place will try and wringe you dry. They'll want you to buy yourself drinks, the girls drinks, the girls extra bottle of water and if you want a private dance you not only pay for it ($20 or $30 from memory) but unless you keep tipping her during the dance, she'll remain relatively clothed. The girls won't approach you unless you give them a smile and a wave (or approach them). So if you have money to burn, definitely check this out, but if not just realise that Miami Club is just around the corner and far better.
Miami Club – another strip club / hooker bar. This is on the other side of the mall (walk down past the mall from Tumbo Muerto – the main road). Walk down the street with the McDonalds on the corner. Past the Fantastic Casino and Crazy Horse on your right. Take the first right (not the road into the mall parking area at Fantastic Casino). Then follow that (you'll pass another carpark entry) until you see Miami Club on your right. It's not far at all, and you won't miss it. It's free to enter. The guys will bring you drinks, overpriced naturally but not too bad. There is nothing happening (and only one or two girls) until about 10pm. There will be occasional strip shows, with decent girls. There aren't heaps of girls sitting around in this club but there are enough for the number of customers and the locals tend to just come for the strip shows. They range from average to gorgeous. You'll have to approach them or intervene as they walk past. The girls are all very friendly and sex is $100 for an hour with a massage. Typical strip club massage, not fantastic but not all that bad either. It's a when you cum your done type deal, but if you want to cum twice, just tell the girl and it should cost you about an extra $50, which you pay her NOT the payment booth she'll take you to.
Gold Fingers & Caribbean Center – these are two 'massage' places that are in the carpark of the Rey supermarket. Continue past Miami Club on your right and take the first right (this time into the carpark area at Niko's Cafe). You'll see them on the far left side of the carpark. I've never been in Caribbean Center because it doesn't have the best reputation and Gold Fingers (which is right next door) is good enough that you won't need to. For gold fingers, you'll enter, a lady will greet you, show you to a seat and give you a run through on the process. Don't worry if you don't understand her, here is the process. The girls will walk through in front of you and take your hand and introduce themselves. They'll have a number somewhere for your reference so don't worry about missing their names. They'll then line up in front of you and at this point you make think you need to make your decision, but you don't. Just smile and they will leave. The lady will return and you tell her the number you want (or leave if you aren't interested). She'll take you to a booth to pay ($90) and the girl will lead you up to a room. The rooms are small and have a massage bed (just the right height for a standing fuck) and not much else. She'll give you a massage and then sex. Another when you cum your done deal so if you want to string the experience out you can offer her a massage after yours. A note here, is that some of the girls actually give decent massages, one girl gave me a full body including legs, which was very decent. Others give very basic massages and use crappy massage tools. There is no standard treatment here, all the girls are different.
Golden Times – this is on the other side of the Tumbo Muerto in Plaza Mirage. Cross the Tumbo Muerto out the front of the El Dorado Mall and walk right for a hundred metres or so until you see the Plaza on your left. There is Popeyes Chicken on the corner. It's a small plaza so you'll see Golden Times without issue. This is very very similar to Golden Fingers and I think its possibly owned by the same people. Same prices, same process, same quality of girls. Golden Fingers is newer and from my experience a little more customer friendly. Plus Golden Times is right outside some restaurants so entry is not super discreet.
A side note for the El Dorado area is that daytime P4P is entirely in the massage places. They seem to be open by midday, but not sure of the quality of girls. But you can also have a look and leave if you want. The problem during the day is that all the massage areas are in not so discreet places. Plus you'll have the mandatory frisk by the doorman to lengthen the embarrassing entry process (for those more self conscious).
I'm going to hit the El Dorado area tonight. I have four nights left and I'm already tired of haggling with the girls at Habanos and the Veneto! My problem is I like them super sexy! LOL!
Panama City is a real point and click mongering location. You don't have to be in the know to find girls here and you won't need a guide. They are all easy to find in a variety of establishments. This report is for the El Dorado area. The simplest area in my opinion (but it depends on what you are after of course). In this area prices tend to be a bit cheaper than the popular places in downtown. Also, if you are worried about your Spanish, then you'll find the locals are very hard to understand (talk fast and with a strong accent) but the girls (all Colombian) are much easier. It's safe to walk around at night and taxis are cheap, although not always plentiful especially during the day.
All the main places in El Dorado have rooms on site, therefore no bar fines for taking the girls off premises and no dealing with the looks from locals with a pro in tow. Trust me, all the locals know the pros by sight. There are no Panamanian pros in the main areas, they are all Colombian, which stand out. I'm not sure what the technical legality of prostitution in Panama is but in terms of what is enforced, you can't pay for sex with a Panamanian but girls from Colombian are given working visas just for that, although technically for working as 'dancers'. However, the locals have a quite accepting mindset of P4P. Carry a photocopy of your license for the police, who walk the streets and will ask you from time to time. If the police or taxis ask you anything about Colombianas they are talking about pros. The term Colombiana basically refers to pros in Panama.
Firstly, with the taxis in Panama it is a little different to other countries. Here the taxi picks you and you don't get the taxi to yourself. You flag one down (even if it already has people in it) and if he stops you stick your head in, tell him your location and see if he agrees. If he agrees, ask how much (cuanto?). If you don't you'll get ripped off. Even when you ask before-hand if you're obviously a foreigner (appearance or accent) you're going to pay more than the locals, but not too much more. However, the taxi drivers won't overcharge you in front of locals (if there are some in the taxi). As of March 2011, I find that all trips inside the city should US$3 or less. At night they'll try and charge you more, but don't pay more than US$5. Also, don't get confused when they refer to Balboas instead of dollars, they are the same.
All the key places in El Dorado are around El Dorado Mall. All but one are on the same block.
I prefer this area because you won't be hassled by guys on the streets wanting to show you girls and there are decent places to go. Plus overall it's going to be a cheaper experience. If you get a taxi to El Dorado, get it to take you somewhere other than where you really want to go. Either ask for 'El Supermercado Rey en El Dorado' and go buy a coke, 'Niko's Café' and have a meal (this place is 24hrs) or 'Fantastic Casino' (no pros in this casino). If you ask to get taken directly to a place with girls, you'll pay extra for entry (that extra goes to the cab driver).
The places in El Dorado are:
Crazy Horse Strip Club – not a great place to be honest. It's next to Fantastic Casino, easy to find, they also have a website with a map. The strip shows are only occasional and not the best girls. About $100 for sex in a back room (I've never done it here). Some of the girls are OK, but you get hassled to buy drinks and get dirty looks when you take your time with your overpriced beer. Plus this place will try and wringe you dry. They'll want you to buy yourself drinks, the girls drinks, the girls extra bottle of water and if you want a private dance you not only pay for it ($20 or $30 from memory) but unless you keep tipping her during the dance, she'll remain relatively clothed. The girls won't approach you unless you give them a smile and a wave (or approach them). So if you have money to burn, definitely check this out, but if not just realise that Miami Club is just around the corner and far better.
Miami Club – another strip club / hooker bar. This is on the other side of the mall (walk down past the mall from Tumbo Muerto – the main road). Walk down the street with the McDonalds on the corner. Past the Fantastic Casino and Crazy Horse on your right. Take the first right (not the road into the mall parking area at Fantastic Casino). Then follow that (you'll pass another carpark entry) until you see Miami Club on your right. It's not far at all, and you won't miss it. It's free to enter. The guys will bring you drinks, overpriced naturally but not too bad. There is nothing happening (and only one or two girls) until about 10pm. There will be occasional strip shows, with decent girls. There aren't heaps of girls sitting around in this club but there are enough for the number of customers and the locals tend to just come for the strip shows. They range from average to gorgeous. You'll have to approach them or intervene as they walk past. The girls are all very friendly and sex is $100 for an hour with a massage. Typical strip club massage, not fantastic but not all that bad either. It's a when you cum your done type deal, but if you want to cum twice, just tell the girl and it should cost you about an extra $50, which you pay her NOT the payment booth she'll take you to.
Gold Fingers & Caribbean Center – these are two 'massage' places that are in the carpark of the Rey supermarket. Continue past Miami Club on your right and take the first right (this time into the carpark area at Niko's Cafe). You'll see them on the far left side of the carpark. I've never been in Caribbean Center because it doesn't have the best reputation and Gold Fingers (which is right next door) is good enough that you won't need to. For gold fingers, you'll enter, a lady will greet you, show you to a seat and give you a run through on the process. Don't worry if you don't understand her, here is the process. The girls will walk through in front of you and take your hand and introduce themselves. They'll have a number somewhere for your reference so don't worry about missing their names. They'll then line up in front of you and at this point you make think you need to make your decision, but you don't. Just smile and they will leave. The lady will return and you tell her the number you want (or leave if you aren't interested). She'll take you to a booth to pay ($90) and the girl will lead you up to a room. The rooms are small and have a massage bed (just the right height for a standing fuck) and not much else. She'll give you a massage and then sex. Another when you cum your done deal so if you want to string the experience out you can offer her a massage after yours. A note here, is that some of the girls actually give decent massages, one girl gave me a full body including legs, which was very decent. Others give very basic massages and use crappy massage tools. There is no standard treatment here, all the girls are different.
Golden Times – this is on the other side of the Tumbo Muerto in Plaza Mirage. Cross the Tumbo Muerto out the front of the El Dorado Mall and walk right for a hundred metres or so until you see the Plaza on your left. There is Popeyes Chicken on the corner. It's a small plaza so you'll see Golden Times without issue. This is very very similar to Golden Fingers and I think its possibly owned by the same people. Same prices, same process, same quality of girls. Golden Fingers is newer and from my experience a little more customer friendly. Plus Golden Times is right outside some restaurants so entry is not super discreet.
A side note for the El Dorado area is that daytime P4P is entirely in the massage places. They seem to be open by midday, but not sure of the quality of girls. But you can also have a look and leave if you want. The problem during the day is that all the massage areas are in not so discreet places. Plus you'll have the mandatory frisk by the doorman to lengthen the embarrassing entry process (for those more self conscious).Lets get real Santa Fe and China town and the fish market area around Boca Torena are where the locals go. Your paying up town prices in El Dorado you might as well stay in the estados uniodos.
Was in Panama two years ago. There was a Bodeguita which is now closed and another Bodeguita which was not as popular. Went back a year later and there was one Bodeguita open. Am I correct in understanding that there are now 3 places open. One named La Che, one named Bodeguita or something similar and one named Bodeguita VIP? Thanks
Was in Panama two years ago. There was a Bodeguita which is now closed and another Bodeguita which was not as popular. Went back a year later and there was one Bodeguita open. Am I correct in understanding that there are now 3 places open. One named La Che, one named Bodeguita or something similar and one named Bodeguita VIP? ThanksThe Bodeguita VIP is still open, Ah Che or Le Che is where the girls rotate to after Habanos right now.
Checked out the Eldorado area. I was there around 6. With Miami had 2 good looking chicas, probably 7 or 8s. Didn't pull the trigger. I made the usual cruise around 930. Veneto, Habanos, mostly the same girls. I checked out Elite strip club. They wanted 30 bucks, for all the domestic alcohol you can drink, no rooms on site. I decided to pass. Headed back across town to Miami. 5 or 6 girls. 2 hot ones. Had a session with another hot colombiana! LOL! I got to go to Cali. This afternoon fish market and Chinatown. More to come.
The Dirty Pirate
04-28-11, 02:23
Definitely appreciate the posts guys, I am going to Panama for the first time in two weeks.
Checked out the fish market. It was pretty early, around 11. Had some good ceviche for a dollar! Decided not to go in Bocoterano or La Mayor. These joints look shady and I didn't have a wingman, or a 9mm! LOL! Headed back to the area near Las Vegas suites. Checked out Moulin Rouge. Nicole, the chica I sessioned with yesterday was there. Had a few Balboas and some conversation, but deciced not to repeat. She said there would be a lot more girls at night. Spent the rest of the afternoon playing Texas hold them at El Panama. Up and down, played for about 4 hours and lost 30 bucks, should have quit when I broke even. Hit the showers then walked through the Veneto. As always some cuties, but nothing mind blowing. Went back to the Moulin Rouge. Probably 10 chicas. 2 were 9s in anyone's book! I got the taller one, morena, long hair, sexy dancer. They wanted 125 for an hour. Prices go up 25 bucks at night. I knew if I didn't bang this chica I'd regret it, so I did! It was worth it! Sexy dance, CBJ, dfk, GFE, an ll around good session. Sole is her name. I got her number and hotmail. I may use it. I really want to go back and bang her friend! I don't know how that will go. After that I called it a night. More to come.
In the afternoon had a couple of beers at Moulin Rouge, but I didn't pull the trigger. A couple of hours playing poker. Lost about 20 bucks. Hit the shower, did some drinking in the Veneto, talked to some Calenas, not hot but good convo. Went to Manolos, seen the girl I meet the first night. We had some drinks, but I didn't choose her. Went back to Moulin Rouge and got the other hot girl! Sophia, paid too much. 125, but, fantasy complete! It was worth it. I went to Ah Che, it was packed. The guy wanted to charge me 10 bucks, if was free the night before, I walked. We passed Habanos on the way back, flashing lights, chicas in cuffs, immagration raid! Called it a night more to come.
Checked out Golden Times. You get buzzed in and walk down a hallway where the chicas are hanging out to a room with some armchairs. The girls come in and their all wearing numbers. You write down the numbers you like and you can sit and chat while you decide whether or not to pull the trigger. Overall the line up wasn't that good. There was one hot panamanin chica. She was flirting hard. I choose her. The guy explained that Americans pay more. I walked toward the door and told him I wanted to pay the local price, about 20 bucks cheaper. The guy gave in and I paid 87 bucks. The massage was good, like a pro. The sex was ok. I got het number but won't call.
Headed over to Le Palace. I wanted to see it after reading so much about it here. It lived up to the hype. All the girls looked good. 8s and up. All the girls had on sexy white stockings and panties with their as hanging out, plus the little chest armor type thing, whatever its called. As I sipped my $10 corona I was amazed. I talked to 4 chicas, all from Colombia, of course. All wanted $200 for a couple of hours, plus $150 to the house. For me that's too much. But I'm glad I seen it for myself.
After that, made the usual rounds. Habanos back in action, maybe 20 girls. Veneto good talent as usual. Called it a night around 1.
I went to Ah Che, it was packed. The guy wanted to charge me 10 bucks, if was free the night before, I walked. .What is Ah Che- is it a pro-place or regular bar? Thanks
What is Ah Che- is it a pro-place or regular bar? ThanksAh Che is a bar the working girls gravatite to around one or two. Before that the same girls are at the Veneto, Habanos, or Manolos. I went one night and it was packed! Some of the girls I had seen earlier, some I hadn't. One night I paid to get in, one night I didn't. The third night, they wanted 10 bucks so I walked. I was just a little frustrated with all the changing prices for Americans, I'm sure you know how it is!
The Dirty Pirate
05-02-11, 20:51
What are some good places to buy electronics in Panama City? Cell phones or computer things in particular.
What are some good places to buy electronics in Panama City? Cell phones or computer things in particular.The second largest duty free zone in the world is zona libra in Colon. Cheek out the Ice Palace while your in Colon.
The Dirty Pirate
05-03-11, 21:50
The second largest duty free zone in the world is zona libra in Colon. Cheek out the Ice Palace while your in Colon.I need places directly in the city, just regular stores. Not enough time to make a trip to that place, I wish I could check it out.
I need places directly in the city, just regular stores. Not enough time to make a trip to that place, I wish I could check it out.OK, I don't do a lot of shopping and am not particularly price sensitive when I do, unless it's an expensive item. But through the years, I've bought a laptop, a couple of cameras and a PDA in Panama for a girlfriend, and I didn't think they were bargains. I could have gotten them cheaper in the USA on the internet. I don't think Panama's reputation for low cost electronics is deserved.
The Dirty Pirate
05-04-11, 20:49
OK, I don't do a lot of shopping and am not particularly price sensitive when I do, unless it's an expensive item. But through the years, I've bought a laptop, a couple of cameras and a PDA in Panama for a girlfriend, and I didn't think they were bargains. I could have gotten them cheaper in the USA on the internet. I don't think Panama's reputation for low cost electronics is deserved.I live in Costa Rica. Guarantee the prices are cheaper in Panama. Could you tell me the stores you've visited please?
I live in Costa Rica. Guarantee the prices are cheaper in Panama. Could you tell me the stores you've visited please?Judging by foreigners loading up on electronics at the airport, it seems the prices of electronics must be attractive compared to other latin countries, but to me they routinely seem 10% to 20% higher than the US. If I have to buy something here, I go to MultiMax (Calle 50@Via Brasil) , but normally I wait for a trip to BestBuy or Wal-Mart.
I understand the best bargains are at the "chinos" in the El Dorado area.
Anyone know where there is an adult toy store in Panama city and is it open late? Can never find one ever.
Recently been to Panama went to a push button called Paris, it was not that much of a fantasy the place to go seems to be Royal Garden suites. Where they have theme suites with jacuzzi and stuff for 45us for 2. 5 hrs cheaper prices for otherrooms not suites.
On another note I am again dissapointed in Golden Time's quality but there is potential that is difficult to ascertain as the lounge area where the girls parade is definitely not conducive to conversations and making the deal. Its difficult to get them to agree to BBBJ when others are in earshot and at golden times there are always people in that room. The girls don't dress like they used to so not much of the body can be seen so you really can't always tell what you are getting despite the fact the rate is ok for TLN. All girls officially refuse to do bbj YMMV in the room and depending on propinas.
Took out Le Palace girls and realised I was being ripped off by waiters before. If you take a girl out then drink costs for the girl is subtracted from the house fee. The waiters don't tell you this but one chica I took out told me in the taxi so I WENT BACK THERE FOUND THE WAITER AND GOT MY NOT INSUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY BACK. As we mongers know every cent counts towards tommorows pussy. Service was worth the price.
I need places directly in the city, just regular stores. Not enough time to make a trip to that place, I wish I could check it out.One of the places where you can get cheaper products is an area called Cinco De Mayo. It's a large, somewhat modest shopping area with many clothing and appliance stores. It's about 10 minutes from the Veneto by cab. Generally I agree that you're going to pay more as opposed to internet buys you can get in the US. I purchase phones and have the local number set up when I get there, or purchase additional minutes. Pretty weasy to do. If you need cheap clothes (throw aways, as when a buddy of mine didn't get his suitcase) , you can buy cheap shorts and shirts for $3. $5.
Can someone let me know where ah che or le che is located.
Thanks.
J
I don't know exactly, but its about a fuve minute taxi ride from the veneto or habanos. All the cab drivers will know.
Can someone let me know where ah che or le che is located.
Thanks.
J
I don't know exactly, but its about a fuve minute taxi ride from the veneto or habanos. All the cab drivers will know.It's on Calle Uruguay, I believe close by the Don Lee Restaurant
Any chance of bringing girls back to the Mariott hotel in Panama City?
Any nice placesfor picking up girls nearby?
Is it posible to bring in girls to the Marriott?
Any where nearby to pick them up?
Hello, all, heading to PC next week. Staying at the RIU, anyone knows if chica friedly?
Thank you report to follow.
Jrsporsche
05-15-11, 10:39
I'm headed there next week also! I've read recently that RIU wasnt chica friendly.
Is it posible to bring in girls to the Marriott?
Any where nearby to pick them up?Habanos cigar bar right across the street, get there by 9-10p and you'll be spoiled for choice. Marriott is NOT chica-friendly however (not sure about RIU) , you're better off staying at Veneto (two blocks away, also great for pickup and much chica-friendlier) , or if you're locked into a reservation at M, most any taxi driver can suggest a by-the-hour establishment to get busy.
Is it posible to bring in girls to the Marriott?
Any where nearby to pick them up? Not unless they check-in with you.
Right across the street, my friend. Shangrala. Habanos Cigar Bar
Habanos cigar bar right across the street, get there by 9-10p and you'll be spoiled for choice. Marriott is NOT chica-friendly however (not sure about RIU) , you're better off staying at Veneto (two blocks away, also great for pickup and much chica-friendlier) , or if you're locked into a reservation at M, most any taxi driver can suggest a by-the-hour establishment to get busy.Thanks Kevin, Veneto will be the place.
Just connecting in Panama on my way to DR.
Hello, all, heading to PC next week. Staying at the RIU, anyone knows if chica friedly?
Thank you report to follow. I stayed there recently, and my date was present at check-in. They did demand to see her passport and register her. HOWEVER, it's a large, busy hotel, and I saw several obvious monger / hooker couples, so I'd guess you could just take a woman on up to your room if she's reasonably presentable.
The Dirty Pirate
05-16-11, 01:53
Just got back from two nights, stayed at the Torres del Alba in the new tower, really nice and a great view if you can get a higher floor, chica friendly. My two cents on The Veneto and Habanos, they suck! I spent a lot of time in the Veneto, nothing bunch of old chicas asking for way too much money. I seen maybe two or three worth paying cien for and they were of course surrounded by mongers at all times. Habanos had some stunners but it was so dead there on Saturday night and they charge 4 dollars for a beer, no reason to sit there, again the chicas that were lookers were all spoken for. Golden Times and Gold Fingers were cool, Bocatoreno was a cool bar to check out. Some of those Veneto girls belong in there charging 10 bucks with all the other old timers. Was still a good time and a pretty cool city, I'm sure I will be back at some point.
My two cents on The Veneto and Habanos, they suck! I spent a lot of time in the Veneto, nothing bunch of old chicas asking for way too much money. I seen maybe two or three worth paying cien for and they were of course surrounded by mongers at all times. Habanos had some stunners but it was so dead there on Saturday night and they charge 4 dollars for a beer, no reason to sit there, again the chicas that were lookers were all spoken for.Habanos got raided last week and they took out dozens and dozens of girls. It was really good prior to that. Hopefully the chicas come back.
Habanos got raided last week and they took out dozens and dozens of girls. It was really good prior to that. Hopefully the chicas come back.What do they get the girls for? I've been there, there is no sex going on, so what is it? Is it because they are not registered sex workers? What happens to the Columbianas, pay a fine and right back out? Seems like its all a show for the government.
I read through the forum but could not find any info on the Wyndham Garden Panama City. It is about 2 miles from the Veneto, but it just opened this year. Does anybody know if this is a girl friendly hotel or I am the first to go there?
I will be in Panama next week.
Anyone who is at the veneto Panama city please come back with reports. Would like to know if things are back to normal at habanos, veneto etc.
Thanks
What do they get the girls for? I've been there, there is no sex going on, so what is it? Is it because they are not registered sex workers? What happens to the Columbianas, pay a fine and right back out? Seems like its all a show for the government.Colombianas are now allowed only a 30 day tourist visa to visit Panama, unless they are on a work visa or an education visa. Most of these working girls are on tourist viass, except for those at GoldenTime, Moulin Rouge etc. One of my friends got into trouble with the police and a lawyer helped her start taking coures at a unversity and get a student visa (and then a regular job actually). Another recently overstayed her visa and is now bared from Panama for a number of years. She was turned away at the border and had to go look for work in Peru (she hated it there). But she thinks maybe she can pay a bribe and get the exclusion removed.
Yes it is just for show, but keep in mind that so many things are illegal in most countries that you can still be in jail even if it was just for show.
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Jrsporsche
05-24-11, 11:34
Anyone who is at the veneto Panama city please come back with reports. Would like to know if things are back to normal at habanos, veneto etc.
ThanksI was just there last week. Back to NORMAL! The girls were very cautious while walking around and preferred to take taxis everywhere. However, Veneto is very lax and is live and jumpin. ANy questions, feel free to PM.
Jrsporsche
05-24-11, 11:38
I was just there last week. Things are back to normal. Considering it was my first time in PC. The girls seemed to be a little cautious as they don't want to stand around after 2am and prefer to take taxis everywhere. I stayed at Veneto and the girls are tolerated there by security. Very lax atmosphere. Any questions feel free to PM.
Hammerin Hank
05-24-11, 14:16
Habanos got raided last week and they took out dozens and dozens of girls. It was really good prior to that. Hopefully the chicas come back.Immagration is a cash cow for the Panamaian govt. They take the girls out of Habanos and down to the station. The girls pay $1, 000. 00 and are released. Most chicas know this so they have a $1, 000 stash available. If they don't and can't "work out an agreement" with the authorities, then they are deported back to Colombia with a stamp on there passport saying they can't return to Panama for 5 years. One chica from Cali was telling me she couldn't believe all the money she was making. She loved Panama cause she's getting $100 a whack compared to maybe $20 in Colombia. She freelances but is wary of HABANOS because of the raids.
I was just there last week. Things are back to normal. Considering it was my first time in PC. The girls seemed to be a little cautious as they don't want to stand around after 2am and prefer to take taxis everywhere. I stayed at Veneto and the girls are tolerated there by security. Very lax atmosphere. Any questions feel free to PM.I tried to PM you but it said you arent a paid member or Something. In anycase. Please respond. To this post. Thanks.
Hello, I have been to PC many times and the last time I was there they raided Veneto and Habanos and it was a terrible weekend. You said things seem to be back to normal. For example how many girls would you say were at Habanos at any given time? Or at Veneto. Thanks for your help. Don't want to waste a trip back if there are only a few girls again.
Regards
Jrsporsche
05-25-11, 08:20
Habanos had about 20-40 at any given time (after 9pm or so.). Veneto had about the same. During peak hrs that is. During the day, Veneto would have stragglers and girls hanging out w / the taxi guys out front. But Habanos seemed to be very quiet during the day. A lot of girls were at Ashe on Uruguay at night FYI.
Pajama Sam
05-25-11, 08:51
Hi Mfins,
I was in Panama a couple of months ago and all was well. Habanos easily had 50+ girls on a weeknight and Veneto about the same.
Try Miami Club or the massage parlors as they often have diamonds in the rough.
Monger On.
I tried to PM you but it said you arent a paid member or Something. In anycase. Please respond. To this post. Thanks.
Hello, I have been to PC many times and the last time I was there they raided Veneto and Habanos and it was a terrible weekend. You said things seem to be back to normal. For example how many girls would you say were at Habanos at any given time? Or at Veneto. Thanks for your help. Don't want to waste a trip back if there are only a few girls again.
Regards
Thanks, Guess I just need to hope there isn't an immigration raid this weekend. Or even the threat of it. If rumor gets out that there may be a raid girls will stay home.
Whats going rate pulling a chica out of Miami or Golden Time now adays.
Man Panama was sooo fun about 3-5 years ago. Anyway, I will be there tomorrow. PM me if someone wants to meet for a beer.
SpiderRider
05-31-11, 06:25
Not tonight anyway. Arrived PC dead tired. 2-3 days with no quality sleep. Took the short walk to Venetto. I was quite pleased with what I saw. Keep in mind I have been in USA Rocky Region and also Minnesota for several months. So anything with a rump and does not look straight through me like I'm a lifeless Droid is very alluring right now. Picked a forward & friendly Cali MILF, agreed to $80 + propina. Took the walk back to Marbella where we were stopped for additional $15 on top of the $55 I had just paid for the night a few hours earlier. Has an adequate 75-85 minutes. She made good effort, I was tired but in desperate need of a human female. Then we went to eat. Enjoyed myself but not epic. Beat the hell out of a GOOD night in USA
I had a 18+ hour layover in Panama City (PC) when on my way to Santiago, DR, so I tried my best to check out a portion of what PC had to offer. First off, I want to thank GauntMan, Hobbying, Paul Gore, Vitera, Tiny 12, and Bowerboy for responding to all my dumb questions and providing me with great information.
Veneto Hotel. Stayed there for the night. A tad pricey, but the hotel and room were excellent. I made my first run through the casino around 8pm, there was a decent selection of women available. But, I was on a mission, so I did not stop and talk during this round. My second run though the casino was at late morning-thirty time frame, and I do remember seeing some women, but because I was half blind at that point, I really don't have much information to share; sorry.
Picked up a driver for the night and off we went. I told the driver that I wanted to go to the Calidonia area and check out Boca Torena and La Mayor. He just gave me the "Are you fucking crazy look?", thus, we did not make it to that section of town. I wanted to go because everyone said not to go, if that makes sense. During my career in the Navy, I was one of the sailors that would find the "Off limits" place's list whenever we pulled into a new port; and would always go to those places first. Which explains why I had so many "What the fuck" moments during my life span.
First stop was the Capri, in the Rio Abajo area. It was early, around 8:30. Ten dollar cover charge. The place was a good size and seemed well kept. The place had 15-18 women; some hotties. Price was $120 hour, or $80 for 30 minutes. Next stop was the La Gruta Azel in the same area. Two dollar cover charge. This place had more of a local feel to it, not as nice as the Capri, but more of a comfortable atmosphere. Around 10-12 women, at $90 for an hour. A couple of hotties in the mix.
Off to the El Dorado area, and stopped at Crazy Horse. I liked the look and feel of this place. It was about 9:30 and there were only 6-8 women at any given point. Five dollar cover, $115 for an hour, $80 for 30 minutes. One of the servers brought over a hot 19 year old dark skinned Colombian girl. She hung out for a bit, maybe because I was buying her shots of tequila; you think? She danced and played; I was a happy camper. One of the other girls came by and wanted to talk to her, so she left.
I was thinking that it was time to move on to the next place, but on the other hand, I thought that if I did not spent time with this hot beauty, I would regret it for the rest of my life. She returned, and she was hotter than when she left. I had a "Here we go" moment, which usually beats my "What the fuck" moments, and off we went. The tequila shots were working well, even though I found out later they were $12 per shot; credit card time. She was a pistol during rack operations and we played for the entire hour, they had to drag my ass out of the room; no regrets whatsoever!
Off to La Palace. No cover, but $20 per drink. Girls were $250 for 2 hours. First off, after I walked in, I realized that I was in Colombian ass heaven! I have yet to see that many beautiful asses assembled in one club since I started this sport in 1978. I drank slowly and enjoyed what my heaven would look like; even knowing that where I'm going in the afterlife, I would be surrounded by fat sloppy smelly asses.
Last stop, Elite Club. Thirty dollar cover, all you can drink. Broke out the old sailor in me and did my very best to consume all the vodka in the club; didn't work out. Many hot women in the club, was quoted $360 for two hours. Drinks for the ladies are at $16, I know, I bought one. I stayed here for at least a couple of hours and decided to head back to the hotel.
Overall thoughts: I like the fact that Colombian women ruled in the clubs. After my trip to Medellin last summer, I felt that the Colombian women were some of the hottest women in the world. However, I feel that the prices are cheaper in Columbia. I enjoyed the clubs, and I know I did not hit all the places I wanted, but I think I got a decent feel for PC and it was worth it to go out and explore. If I'm wrong on any of the women and club prices; I blame it on the alcohol!
Picked up a driver for the night and off we went. I told the driver that I wanted to go to the Calidonia area and check out Boca Torena and La Mayor. He just gave me the "Are you fucking crazy look?", thus, we did not make it to that section of town. I wanted to go because everyone said not to go, if that makes sense.
Overall thoughts: I like the fact that Colombian women ruled in the clubs. After my trip to Medellin last summer, I felt that the Colombian women were some of the hottest women in the world. Well Tom, it sounds like you performed a yeoman's job of seeing and doing about as much of PTY in 18 hours as a man could realistically fit in, and apparently wasted very little time sleeping in that hotel room! You are to be commended for a very thorough and entertaining FR as well.
As for your 'near miss' on the sights, sounds, and yes, 'smells' of La Boca Torena, you did sadly fail to hit just the kind of joint an apparent 'risk taker' such as yourself would relish. But that just leaves a little something to look forward to on your next run through PC. Your cabbie gave you that 'WTF are you Crazy' look 'cause they do not relish the thought of driving in that 'hood at night. I like my mongering 'down scale' at times as well, but must admit, it's probably better to hit that spot during in the daylight. The place where "Men make love with their boots on and. ' Well, you know the rest.
As for the Columbianas, I'm with you Tommy my Man, the locals are friendly, and their women are 'nice' enough, but even the hombres of Panama go for the chicas from that part of the world when out mongering themselves. They, too, know quality and beauty when they see it!
Thanks, again, Tom, for bringing a smile to our collective faces for those of us who know and appreciate the action to be had in PTY with this update. I will be back down there for a couple of weeks later this month myself and will return the favor to you and other members with my own update as well.
JayHighFive
06-02-11, 23:39
Hi Guys,
I am headed to Panama City in a couple weeks. I am a latin lover. Been to Rio, MDE, Lima, BA, DR and a few other places. How does Panama stack up? Can you guys point me to a report that can give me the low down? I appriciate your help. I know RTFF. I don't know about you but when I read about a place I never been it is hard to understand without some drection. Thanks guys! Happy hunting! PM if you like.
Jay
SpiderRider
06-03-11, 00:37
Several walk-throughs at Veneto Casino have been impressive. Colombian & local talent very enticing.
Have avoided Le Palace due to the US strip club style dim lighting, as well as the high prices for everything & everybody.
I did want to try Elite II because I have not been there before. $30 open bar cover. I over indulged in Rum. Same dim lighting & chicas in uniform presentation as Le Palace. I was not overwhelmed by the girls there but I found a couple that I liked. Spent a lot of dough in there, but I knew I was not likely to return. Prices are high.
Habanos is more to my liking. The talent there has been very impressive. In fact, I ditched a stunning favorite here to try Elite. Terms are negotiable as the girls are working independent as far as I can tell.
Quick stops in Oasis & Moulin Rouge were nice, but not enough there to entice me yet.
I wish there was a better street scene, although the girl from Veneto do hang outside. Also some lower tier girls at Manolo's across the street. I think uncovered BJ is hard to come by here, at least initially. And that is a deal-maker for me most of the time.
Comments & suggestions welcomed
It is on the lower level next to the Veneto Casino?
It is on the lower level next to the Veneto Casino?Name of the strip club is Doll House, same price and quality chicas (more or less) as Moulin Rouge a few doors away. Not even close for quality to Veneto, Habanos, usual Colombiana pickup locations.
Several walk-throughs at Veneto Casino have been impressive. Colombian & local talent very enticing.
Have avoided Le Palace due to the US strip club style dim lighting, as well as the high prices for everything & everybody.
I did want to try Elite II because I have not been there before. $30 open bar cover. I over indulged in Rum. Same dim lighting & chicas in uniform presentation as Le Palace. I was not overwhelmed by the girls there but I found a couple that I liked. Spent a lot of dough in there, but I knew I was not likely to return. Prices are high.
Habanos is more to my liking. The talent there has been very impressive. In fact, I ditched a stunning favorite here to try Elite. Terms are negotiable as the girls are working independent as far as I can tell.
Quick stops in Oasis & Moulin Rouge were nice, but not enough there to entice me yet.
I wish there was a better street scene, although the girl from Veneto do hang outside. Also some lower tier girls at Manolo's across the street. I think uncovered BJ is hard to come by here, at least initially. And that is a deal-maker for me most of the time.
Comments & suggestions welcomedAs of last weekend (US Memorial Day) :
Enjoyed my stay at Veneto, but for a more inexpensive AND good quality (chica-friendly) place to stay, check out Torres de Alba across the street from Veneto; ask for Derek if you call, e-mail or stop by, he speaks excellent English and will take good care of you.
Largest choice of quality chicas by far at Veneto casino and bar (30-40 most nights at prime time [9-10 p], almost all well-enhanced Colombianas. Watch out for up-pricing (like $200 for a "two-hour" session that ends up lasting 60 minutes, stick with $80-$100 offer for one hr). If you're into blondes / non-morenas as I am, ask around about Vanessa, Yenny and Cristina, for now they're all there most nights. Virtually no BBBJ on offer, though $20-50 extra can be persuasive at times.
Nearby strip and massage joints (Doll House, Oasis, Moulin Rouge) not that much cheaper in evening, and girl quality not nearly as good, IMHO. Manolo's across the street worth a walk-through every so often, now & then you'll see someone hot. Comparing notes with fellow mongers, price & quality at El Dorado venues (Miami Club, Golden Time) similar to Oasis and Moulin Rouge, so I didn't go look for myself.
If you want to check out the other venues often mentioned here, have taxi driver take you to Hotel Ejecutivo ($3 cab ride) and dropoff to avoid an entrance surcharge at Elite nearby. Wait for the cabbie to leave then, as you face the hotel, head for Habanos first, walk to your left one block down the hill, it's across from the Marriott (chicas starting to come back [saw about 10-12 there last Saturday] after big immigration raid there the previous week). Le Palace (free to enter) is a one block walk on same street from the hotel, but down the hill to your right. You don't need to stay long to make connections for later (I got three phone #s in 20 minutes). To get to Elite, walk downhill straight from the hotel on the cross-street, when you get two blocks down to the busy street, look to your right for Hooters (down a couple more blocks) and Elite's right across the street (mandatory $30 but incl. All you can drink). Saw two or three blonde well-built stunners each at both Elite and Palace, all eager to give you their phone #s for later hookup so you don't have to pay the outrageous take-out fees. The girls themselves are expensive enough (one wanted $300 for two hours!) but they're definitely best quality.
My plan for a memorable next trip (probably July 4 wkend) : stay at Torres, check out Elite / Palace first to set up some of those hot blondes, then go cruise the Veneto. Happy hunting why'all
It is on the lower level next to the Veneto Casino?I think its called the Moulin Rouge. I had three hot chicas there in April. There are more girls at night, buy during the day Nicole was a fav. Have fun!
I found your report very informative particularly about the quality of vent chic as while I have read similar reports about the veneto and hav been myself I hav yet to see the quality. I will enjoy checking out the venue. When you say quality is it as good as what you saw at elite and palace?
What was the service like?
I found your report very informative particularly about the quality of vent chic as while I have read similar reports about the veneto and hav been myself I hav yet to see the quality. I will enjoy checking out the venue. When you say quality is it as good as what you saw at elite and palace?
What was the service like?Sato, not only is the quality of the selection just as good IMHO, but as has been said by others, the LIGHTING's so much better (normal vs strip-club dark). So you can really see the girls. Combine that with lots of chicas to choose from (effective price control) , no entrance fee (unlike the Elite) , no take-out fee (unlike the Elite or Palace) , hot live latin music every night and cheap drinks to help get her in the mood (for example, a bucket of five local beers for $6) , and you have an unrushed and pretty close to perfect mongering environment. The only reason I'll have to cruise Elite / Palace on my next trip will be to line up three or four blondes / non-morenas (my personal preference, YMV) for off-premises hookups.
As for service, didn't meet any girl there who was into anal; BBBJ is the exception, but can be had with a little extra surcharge (usually $20 and up) if the chica is willing (the liquor & small talk helps). The passion level of the sex can vary of course, but getting to know her a little beforehand is usually a good tip-off to her mood and the best way to stroke it. If you speak some Spanish, and know how to make her laugh & loosen up, you're pretty sure to get what you want. At your price. AND she won't be watching the clock while you get it.
Happy hunting!
SpiderRider
06-05-11, 20:25
As of last weekend (US Memorial Day) :
Enjoyed my stay at Veneto, but for a more inexpensive AND good quality (chica-friendly) place to stay, check out Torres de Alba across the street from Veneto; ask for Derek if you call, e-mail or stop by, he speaks excellent English and will take good care of you.
Largest choice of quality chicas by far at Veneto casino and bar (30-40 most nights at prime time [9-10 p], almost all well-enhanced Colombianas. Watch out for up-pricing (like $200 for a "two-hour" session that ends up lasting 60 minutes, stick with $80-$100 offer for one hr). If you're into blondes / non-morenas as I am, ask around about Vanessa, Yenny and Cristina, for now they're all there most nights. Virtually no BBBJ on offer, though $20-50 extra can be persuasive at times.
Nearby strip and massage joints (Doll House, Oasis, Moulin Rouge) not that much cheaper in evening, and girl quality not nearly as good, IMHO. Manolo's across the street worth a walk-through every so often, now & then you'll see someone hot. Comparing notes with fellow mongers, price & quality at El Dorado venues (Miami Club, Golden Time) similar to Oasis and Moulin Rouge, so I didn't go look for myself.
If you want to check out the other venues often mentioned here, have taxi driver take you to Hotel Ejecutivo ($3 cab ride) and dropoff to avoid an entrance surcharge at Elite nearby. Wait for the cabbie to leave then, as you face the hotel, head for Habanos first, walk to your left one block down the hill, it's across from the Marriott (chicas starting to come back [saw about 10-12 there last Saturday] after big immigration raid there the previous week). Le Palace (free to enter) is a one block walk on same street from the hotel, but down the hill to your right. You don't need to stay long to make connections for later (I got three phone #s in 20 minutes). To get to Elite, walk downhill straight from the hotel on the cross-street, when you get two blocks down to the busy street, look to your right for Hooters (down a couple more blocks) and Elite's right across the street (mandatory $30 but incl. All you can drink). Saw two or three blonde well-built stunners each at both Elite and Palace, all eager to give you their phone #s for later hookup so you don't have to pay the outrageous take-out fees. The girls themselves are expensive enough (one wanted $300 for two hours!) but they're definitely best quality.
My plan for a memorable next trip (probably July 4 wkend) : stay at Torres, check out Elite / Palace first to set up some of those hot blondes, then go cruise the Veneto. Happy hunting why'allSo I stopped in MR last night of this leg. I liked the girls in there this Thursday night Had a quality session with Sophia. Also goat phone number of Karla, very sexy & eager. I will call her when I return next week.
Now I am hanging out with some very sweet, nice ladies, non-pros, moderate chance at sex, in Barranquilla. But I can't surround my self with hookers for more than about 3 days. Just me.
Considering a day trip to Cartagena as P4P is minimal in Barranquilla.
Jimboe7373
06-06-11, 02:30
So I stopped in MR last night of this leg. I liked the girls in there this Thursday night Had a quality session with Sophia. Also goat phone number of Karla, very sexy & eager. I will call her when I return next week.Moulin Rouge and Doll House both have great locations, but are DRASTICALLY overpriced. Talent at M. R. Is very marginal and OK at Doll House. Owners seem to be looking to gouge the hapless tourist staying in the Veneto who doesn't know any better. Much better quality and MUCH better value at other locations. It's a shame as they are nice places with great locations. If owers had a clue about the local market and some better talent, these places could be real winners.
BlkPanther
06-06-11, 15:00
Guys.
I've been reading the posts from as far back as January trying to get an idea of the PC scene. Myself and a couple of buds are thinking about going there for the 4th. We're seasoned mongers but this will be a first to PTY. Can someone give me an idea of the room rates for the Veneto and the Torres? Also are the mongers in any danger of being hassled / arrested or having their money taken during any of these raids? If so, I'd rather pay the extra money to go to MDE where the talent is a lot cheaper!
When I saw the prices mentioned by some guys in this area I had to take a step back. I want to see PC but paying $100 and up for a roll in the hay with a chica is against my nature LOL!
Thanks in advance.
Jimboe7373
06-06-11, 22:51
Guys.
I've been reading the posts from as far back as January trying to get an idea of the PC scene. Myself and a couple of buds are thinking about going there for the 4th. We're seasoned mongers but this will be a first to PTY. Can someone give me an idea of the room rates for the Veneto and the Torres? Also are the mongers in any danger of being hassled / arrested or having their money taken during any of these raids? If so, I'd rather pay the extra money to go to MDE where the talent is a lot cheaper!
When I saw the prices mentioned by some guys in this area I had to take a step back. I want to see PC but paying $100 and up for a roll in the hay with a chica is against my nature LOL!
Thanks in advanceI believe you can get a corporate rate of around $125 in the Veneto if you call and ask for it. Torres de Alba is less expensive, you can check their website. Las Vegas Suites is across the street from both and cheaper still- although it lacks amenities.
As to the chicas, price-wise you should never pay over $100. In Veneto and Habanos they will quote you $150 but will almost always come down to $100. Golden Time in El Dorado is $84 for a top-tier girl (just be sure to have the taxi drop you off at Popeye's in El Dorado- so you don't get stuck paying his commission). There are also a bevy of lower end places with much lower rates.
Was in Panama a week ago. Was there 4 nights. Had fun one. La Che, Habanos, and Veneto. I made the rounds. 5 years ago or so things were much better. Less touristy girls much more friendly. Offered to buy drinks on two seperate occasions for girls. Went to the bar, by the time I came back only a couple minutes they were gone. Off with another client. Don't get me wrong Panama can still be fun but to me it has become very mechanical and the quality has gone way down. The hottest ones get plucked up by the old timers who rent them for a month or whatever and have them live in there condos with them. There are still some 9's but few and far between and those girls are very difficult to get through too. In anycase. Much better mongering spots out there besides Panama. Things just aren't the same there.
Does anyone know whether Toscana hotel and the Wyndham Garden Hotel is chica friendly. Please assist don't want to make the wrong choice.
Thanks
Will be staying at the Venetto 6/9-6/12, any fellow mongers want to throw back a few PM me.
BlkPanther
06-09-11, 19:42
I believe you can get a corporate rate of around $125 in the Veneto if you call and ask for it. Torres de Alba is less expensive, you can check their website. Las Vegas Suites is across the street from both and cheaper still- although it lacks amenities.
As to the chicas, price-wise you should never pay over $100. In Veneto and Habanos they will quote you $150 but will almost always come down to $100. Golden Time in El Dorado is $84 for a top-tier girl (just be sure to have the taxi drop you off at Popeye's in El Dorado- so you don't get stuck paying his commission). There are also a bevy of lower end places with much lower rates. Thanks for the info Jimboe. We got in at the Las Vegas for $82 per, including breakfast. I'm always looking to keeping a hand on my budget. I'll also have to sharpen up on my negotiating skills. I don't mind those lower tier places as long as they're safe and I can persuade a chica or two to rendezvous back at my hotel when they're off the clock. A good attitude and a nice ass matter more to me than a pretty face who thinks she's doing me a favor. You're right. I've got to remember to get dropped off away from the front doors. And remind my buds of the same.
BlkPanther
06-09-11, 21:14
One more thing that I'm not sure about. Do we use American dollars in Panama or do you have to use their currency as in most other mongering situations?
Jimboe7373
06-09-11, 23:18
One more thing that I'm not sure about. Do we use American dollars in Panama or do you have to use their currency as in most other mongering situations?US dollar is the currency.
Does anyone know whether Toscana hotel and the Wyndham Garden Hotel is chica friendly. Please assist don't want to make the wrong choice.
ThanksI stayed at the Wyndham Garden a couple of weeks ago and did not have any problems bringing girls up to my room. Just walk in and go to the elevator. Do not stop at the front desk.
I was returning to the hotel after 2:00 am, I do not know what they would do in the morning.
One more thing that I'm not sure about. Do we use American dollars in Panama or do you have to use their currency as in most other mongering situations?While Balboa is their official currency, the dollar is the de facto currency. I only received Balboa coins a couple of times.
BlkPanther
06-10-11, 04:51
NIce! Thanks.
While Balboa is their official currency, the dollar is the de facto currency. I only received Balboa coins a couple of times. [/QUOTE]
SpiderRider
06-11-11, 04:29
Moulin Rouge and Doll House both have great locations, but are DRASTICALLY overpriced. Talent at M. R. Is very marginal and OK at Doll House. Owners seem to be looking to gouge the hapless tourist staying in the Veneto who doesn't know any better. Much better quality and MUCH better value at other locations. It's a shame as they are nice places with great locations. If owers had a clue about the local market and some better talent, these places could be real winners.Always looking to learn
JayHighFive
06-13-11, 00:09
I'm headed to Panama City for the 4th of July weekend. Booked a room at the Veneto- Wyndham Grand Hotel for and average of $107 / night. Called the hotel directly and they quoted $170 / night but if you are a Wyndham By Request member they have a big discount on-line. I am compiling a list of places to find chicas and this is what I have so far.
Independents.
Place Cost $USD # of Chicas Time to Go.
Veneto (my hotel) 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 70 After 7:00pm.
Habanos 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 40 After 9:00pm.
Bodequite 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 40 After Midnight.
Strip Clubs.
Place Cost $USD.
Moulin Rouge 85 ½ hour. 125 hour.
Doll House
Miami
Golden Time
Websites.
Girlpanama. Com 507-6887-2249 phone # – agency
Mundoanuncio. Com – independents
Massage Parlors.
Place Cost $USD.
Oasis 80 hour.
I'll be there for 4 days. Does this list look like the top places to go? Could you guys make recommendations if I am missing some of the best places. Thanks all. Report to come!
I'm headed to Panama City for the 4th of July weekend. Booked a room at the Veneto- Wyndham Grand Hotel for and average of $107 / night. Called the hotel directly and they quoted $170 / night but if you are a Wyndham By Request member they have a big discount on-line. I am compiling a list of places to find chicas and this is what I have so far.
Independents.
Place Cost $USD # of Chicas Time to Go.
Veneto (my hotel) 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 70 After 7:00pm.
Habanos 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 40 After 9:00pm.
Bodequite 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 40 After Midnight.
Strip Clubs.
Place Cost $USD.
Moulin Rouge 85 ½ hour. 125 hour.
Doll House
Miami
Golden Time
Websites.
Girlpanama. Com 507-6887-2249 phone # – agency
Mundoanuncio. Com – independents
Massage Parlors.
Place Cost $USD.
Oasis 80 hour.
I'll be there for 4 days. Does this list look like the top places to go? Could you guys make recommendations if I am missing some of the best places. Thanks all. Report to come! You have learned well, Grasshoppa! Will in PTY 6/30. 7/5, not my first time. I do have a question for the regulars though. I want to check out La Palace, they say the most beautiful Panama has to offer. My quest is to get one of the girls to come to my girl friendly hotel the next day for a swim, how's the best way to do that without getting them in trouble and me kicked out, LOL?
Was in Panama a week ago. Was there 4 nights. Had fun one. La Che, Habanos, and Veneto. I made the rounds. 5 years ago or so things were much better. Less touristy girls much more friendly. Offered to buy drinks on two seperate occasions for girls. Went to the bar, by the time I came back only a couple minutes they were gone. Off with another client. Don't get me wrong Panama can still be fun but to me it has become very mechanical and the quality has gone way down. The hottest ones get plucked up by the old timers who rent them for a month or whatever and have them live in there condos with them. There are still some 9's but few and far between and those girls are very difficult to get through too. In anycase. Much better mongering spots out there besides Panama. Things just aren't the same there.Very true, not many GFE types in PTY. Still some can be found in SJO, but most are strictly pros nowadays. Thailand is better suited for finding one as a keeper for a few days, but I prefer quantity over quality, LOL.
You have learned well, Grasshoppa! Will in PTY 6/30. 7/5, not my first time. I do have a question for the regulars though. I want to check out La Palace, they say the most beautiful Panama has to offer. My quest is to get one of the girls to come to my girl friendly hotel the next day for a swim, how's the best way to do that without getting them in trouble and me kicked out, LOL?Nixon, Historically, I haven't had that problem in Le Palace. The women had no problem giving me phone numbers in the open. In fact, one asked a waiter to come over and shine a flashlight while she wrote down her number. In Elite on the other hand, they're definitely paranoid. She loses her job and I think her visa if she gets caught. I had one get around this by writing her number on a very small piece of paper while she was in the dressing room and then she slipped it to me. Another repeated her number enough times that I memorized it, then wrote it down while she was away from the table. Assuming it's a cellular number it will start with 6, so you just have to memorize the last 7 digits.
I do not believe Le Palace necessarily has the most beautiful Panama has to offer. While the crackdowns may have changed things a bit, I'd hand that title to Golden Time. And I've usually been able to find a gem or two at Habano's or the Veneto Casino that would be among the hottest in Le Palace.
Very true, not many GFE types in PTY. Still some can be found in SJO, but most are strictly pros nowadays. Thailand is better suited for finding one as a keeper for a few days, but I prefer quantity over quality, LOL.Panama is no longer a fun, desirable destination anymore. Too many greedy Colombian pros there in it only for the buck and not the fuck. There are far better options out there offering much, much better service.
SpiderRider
06-13-11, 03:54
You have learned well, Grasshoppa! Will in PTY 6/30. 7/5, not my first time. I do have a question for the regulars though. I want to check out La Palace, they say the most beautiful Panama has to offer. My quest is to get one of the girls to come to my girl friendly hotel the next day for a swim, how's the best way to do that without getting them in trouble and me kicked out, LOL?I'd like to find a girl-friendly hotel with pool. What is the price for a single?
JayHighFive
06-13-11, 09:53
I assume La Palace is a strip club. What time does it open. I'm looking for where to go for some daytime action.
Jay.
You have learned well, Grasshoppa! Will in PTY 6/30. 7/5, not my first time. I do have a question for the regulars though. I want to check out La Palace, they say the most beautiful Panama has to offer. My quest is to get one of the girls to come to my girl friendly hotel the next day for a swim, how's the best way to do that without getting them in trouble and me kicked out, LOL?
I assume La Palace is a strip club. What time does it open. I'm looking for where to go for some daytime action.
Jay. I don't think there's much daytime fun, unless you're into massage parlors.
I'd like to find a girl-friendly hotel with pool. What is the price for a single?We stay at the Tower House Suites, about 5 blocks or so to the Veneto, two or three block walk to Elite II, Hooters, TGI Fridays and LaPalace. Has an outdoor pool, free breakfast, nothing fancy. Single is about $50 / night taxes included. Usually book it through Kayak, which goes to Easy Click Travel.
JayHighFive
06-13-11, 22:11
Hi Nixonbd,
I am into massage parlors. Can you recommend some of the best ones in your opinion?
Jay.
I don't think there's much daytime fun, unless you're into massage parlors.
SpiderRider
06-14-11, 01:45
We stay at the Tower House Suites, about 5 blocks or so to the Veneto, two or three block walk to Elite II, Hooters, TGI Fridays and LaPalace. Has an outdoor pool, free breakfast, nothing fancy. Single is about $50 / night taxes included. Usually book it through Kayak, which goes to Easy Click Travel.Thanks for the tip. Going to try to get over there tomorrow. Tired of these taxi drivers jerking me around, with their shitty recommendations
Hi Nixonbd,
I am into massage parlors. Can you recommend some of the best ones in your opinion?
Jay. There are a number and I've only been to a few.
I've had good luck at Hawaii Center on Justo Arosemena. This is maybe a 5 minute taxi ride from Cangrejo. Most of the women there are dogs, but I've come across two hotties there that provided excellent service. Cost was around $60, a few years ago, for an hour.
Oasis is on Via Veneto between the Veneto hotel and the Panama hotel, as is Moulin Rouge. The selection of women at Oasis historically, in terms of looks, has been above average compared to other daytime venues in Panama. However, when I ducked in the door a couple of months ago on a Sunday afternoon, there were only three women available, and the mamasan wouldn't let me see them, so I suspect they were ugly. See more details in my post below in this thread. Historically, service provided to me has been below average to average. They have a lunch time special from about 11:30 to 2:00 for $50, I think for an hour. Outside that time the prices are higher, around $80 to $100. The one time I went during lunch time I got really shitty service from a pretty attractive woman, and I attribute it in part to the lower price. I don't think she was motivated for whatever part of the $50 she got.
Moulin Rouge is a bit like Miami, a combination strip bar and brothel, but there's no stripping during the daytime. I've been there once and you can see my report back a few pages in this thread. At 4:00 PM there were maybe 10 women, only one of which was acceptable. Cost was around $80 for 30 minutes and $120 for an hour, and service was excellent. I liked the bar and the rooms. A better environment than massage parlors.
Caribbean Center is in El Dorado, fairly close to Golden Time. If the traffic is not bad, it's maybe 10 or 15 minutes from Cangrejo. Like Hawaii, it's been a while since I've been there, but the quality used to be above average. The price was around $80 for an hour.
There used to be a couple of places around the intersection of Espana and Argentina. Not sure if they're still there. You can search the thread and check the yellow pages for other ideas. My memory sucks, so if I'm wrong on prices I trust someone will correct me.
JayHighFive, One other thing, IMHO Golden Time is the best MP / brothel in Panama, but it doesn't open until about 7:30 PM. The options in my post below are open during daytime.
JayHighFive
06-14-11, 23:19
Thanks very much bro. I really appricate the help. What would you consider the top three. Five places to visit?
This is helping me a great deal!
JayHighFive, One other thing, IMHO Golden Time is the best MP / brothel in Panama, but it doesn't open until about 7:30 PM. The options in my post below are open during daytime.
Thanks very much bro. I really appricate the help. What would you consider the top three. Five places to visit?
This is helping me a great deal! My top five picks,
Top Massage Parlor / Brothel: Golden Time.
Top Places for Freelancers: Veneto Casino, Habano*
Top Strip Bar if you want to get laid at a reasonable price: Miami.
Top Strip Bar if you aren't looking to get laid or are happy paying U.S. prices: Elite**
*Late at night La Bodeguita on Calle Uruguay was often better than Veneto or Habano, and I liked the live music. But I haven't been there since the action shifted to the location on Espana. Also, Che has recently gotten one or two decent reviews for freelancers but I haven't been there either. I think, but am not sure, that Che is also a late night hangout.
**Elite's gay choreographer is responsible for some first class entertainment. Elite is my favorite strip bar if I'm not looking to get laid on the premises. Others prefer Le Palace. The shows aren't as good, but arguably the women on average are hotter than Elite.
"Too many greedy Colombian pros there in it only for the buck and not the fuck. There are far better options out there offering much, much better service."
Hello, everyone, this isn't any personal attack to anyone at all, it just happens that this comment tickled me because I hear it over and over again.
If you are mongering you should Know by now that they ARE in the business for the MONEY AND NOT for the fuck!
If you are looking for warm fuzzy from these girls, you are looking in the absolutely less likely place where you can find that (though it can be found, but good luck on that)
If you are mongering you should Know by now that they ARE in the business for the MONEY AND NOT for the fuck!
If you are looking for warm fuzzy from these girls, you are looking in the absolutely less likely place where you can find that (though it can be found, but good luck on that) No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck . . . then partner you ain't been to Brazil!
The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.
And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.
Sorry to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it.
No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck. . . Then partner you ain't been to Brazil!
The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.
And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.
Sorry to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it. Again, this wasn't meant to start any flame wars or to attack anyone. I just ewanted to highligh the fact that many people who post here keep complaining about the cold attitudes of some providers. GFE CAN be had, but in the mongering scene, is a rare find. Myself, I consier myself a GFE searcher, I could drop a hot stunner 12 in the scale for a 7 that is known to me to give excelent service.
And no I'm not pissed off at all, I just wanted to start an intelligent debate on the subject that matters to us all.
Again, this wasn't meant to start any flame wars or to attack anyone. I just ewanted to highligh the fact that many people who post here keep complaining about the cold attitudes of some providers. GFE CAN be had, but in the mongering scene, is a rare find. Myself, I consier myself a GFE searcher, I could drop a hot stunner 12 in the scale for a 7 that is known to me to give excelent service.
And no I'm not pissed off at all, I just wanted to start an intelligent debate on the subject that matters to us all. OK Gauntman. I understand and respect where you're coming from. I hope you see my point too. I mean, if a girl is going to be far more concerned about the buck and not the fuck, can't she at least pretend for a monger? Hehehe! I like Colombian girls by the way. I was just kind of turned off to Panama based upon my last experience. I'm sure that for other guys, they can go there and be in 7th Heaven. More power to 'um!
This is can very good for us Mongers. Panama might be coming back to life.
Director of Immigration Resigns (Finally.)
Tuesday, June 14 2011@06:24 PM EDT.
Contributed by: Don Winner.
Views: 53.
The director of the National Immigration Service, María Cristina González, told La Prensa that the USA government has not revoked her visa to enter that country, as stated in the local media today. Gonzalez said the last time she traveled to the US was last May and she had no problems entering the country. Moreover, she confirmed that she presented her resignation to President Ricardo Martinelli on Monday, but gave no details about the reasons for that decision. President Martinelli said this morning that Gonzalez would be replaced as the Director of Immigration, and he named police commissioner Javier Carrillo, the secretary general of the National Police as a possible substitute. On 8 June, Martinelli accepted the resignation of the Deputy Director of Immigration, Jaime Ruiz, who has not yet been replaced. Ruiz has been named in a scandal over the issuance of visas to women from different European nationalities, a case that is being investigated by prosecutors. (La Prensa)Well, all I can say is "it's about time." I've been very critical of María Cristina González for a long time, practically since she took over. She and the people who worked for her used Immigration as their own little money factory, squeezing bribes from foreigners in vulnerable situations from all walks of life. Immigration has traditionally been one of the most corrupt organizations within the Panamanian government, regardless of which political party is at the helm. They need to fight that corruption with TRANSPARENCY. Nothing Immigration does has to be secret, confidential, or close held. They can (literally) put every single transaction on the Internet for the world to see. There should be regular and routine visits by the Public Defender to the holding cells where they (often illegally) arrest and detain foreigners. Any and all deportations should be reviewed and approved by Minister Mulino. Before they occur. That was the huge weapon used by María Cristina González. She would threaten to deport people which she could do on a whim. And if you refused to "cooperate" (pay hefty bribes) then they would put you on the next plane leaving the country, before you could put up a stink. Hopefully the next guy will be. Well. Less corrupt. This is a terribly important issue for every foreigner living in Panama.
Joey Smith
06-15-11, 23:45
This is can very good for us Mongers. Panama might be coming back to life.
Well, all I can say is "it's about time." I've been very critical of María Cristina González for a long time, practically since she took over. She and the people who worked for her used Immigration as their own little money factory, squeezing bribes from foreigners in vulnerable situations from all walks of life. Immigration has traditionally been one of the most corrupt organizations within the Panamanian government, regardless of which political party is at the helm. They need to fight that corruption with TRANSPARENCY. Nothing Immigration does has to be secret, confidential, or close held. They can (literally) put every single transaction on the Internet for the world to see. There should be regular and routine visits by the Public Defender to the holding cells where they (often illegally) arrest and detain foreigners. Any and all deportations should be reviewed and approved by Minister Mulino. Before they occur. That was the huge weapon used by María Cristina González. She would threaten to deport people which she could do on a whim. And if you refused to "cooperate" (pay hefty bribes) then they would put you on the next plane leaving the country, before you could put up a stink. Hopefully the next guy will be. Well. Less corrupt. This is a terribly important issue for every foreigner living in Panama.I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.
I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.
Coincidentally, everytime this kind of stuff happens, a female is in charge of the Migra department. On a previous administration, the wife of some one important took the helm of the Migra departments and declared a Jyhad against all colombianas because her husband cheated her with one parserita!!
I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.Yes, I am not exactly sure what this means but I hope it stops all this corruption.
I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.
I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.That's pretty common with the police, specially around paydays, if a girl sounds columbian, she will be stopped and harassed even she has all her papers in working order, looking to make some money out of bribes and the like, because they will start threatening with investigation, migration checks, etc, etc
No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck. . . Then partner you ain't been to Brazil!
The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.
And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.
Sorry to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it. The Cane- I agree 100. The issue, with Panama now is the hardened attitude of the Colombians working there. Was there two weeks ago and some are just flat out rude. They have a sense of entitlement to them. They have become clock watchers. Now let me preface this by saying the good looking ones have this attitude. This is because they are fewer now than years ago. The average and below average ones are still very nice to be with but of course looks wise you get what you pay for. It is a real shame because 5 years ago or so Panama was non touristy, great mongering spot. There were so many hotties and they were delighted to be with a gringo. Totally different now. It is a shame to see a good spot get ruined. One thing I must compliment the country on is the service at bars, hotels and resteraunts. It has gotten 10 times better than it was years ago. Even the food seems a little tastier, too bad the putas don't.
Not all are functioning, like La Palace and Elite:
http://www.panamastart.com/english/directory/night-clubs-strip-clubs-escort-services.html
Club Villa Fenix looks pretty interesting, anyone ever been there?
I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.Panamanians treats Colombians as Americans treat the Mexican scum.
The new director of the National Immigration Service (SNM) , Javier Carrillo, said he hopes that the people who have to complete a procedure in this institution will not have to pay a bribe or the use of influence peddling."We hope that everyone who has to address issues regarding their immigration status in Panama can do so on an equal basis," said Carrillo, upon the conclusion of a transition meeting with the former Head of Migration, Maria Cristina Gonzalez. There he learned, at the hands of Gonzalez, the functions and procedures in the National Immigration Service, he said. Carrillo also announced that "gradually" he is going to implement measures of monitor and control in Immigration. He added these rules seek to avoid situations "that the community could feel are incorrect." Carrillo took office yesterday in a ceremony attended by the Public Security Minister, Jose Raul Mulino. (La Prensa)
Editor's Comment: Ahhhh. Big sigh of relief. Now, let's see it Carrillo follows through on his mandate of running a relatively clean and corruption free Immigration service in Panama. If he does, it will be a first. This looks and feels like a good news story for all of the members of our community of English speaking expatriates living in the Republic of Panama. Sooner or later we all have to deal with Immigration, be it when seeking a "pensionado" visa or something as simple as checking in through the airport.
having just returned from pty late yesterday evening, i thought it might be helpful to post some very up-to-date intel on some of my favorite sites in panama.
for business reasons most of my adventures took place during the day / early evening, with one notable exception, so please keep this in mind when comparing this information with any of your own personal experiences in panama city. many of you more practiced punters will know all of these locations, and due to a simple lack of time (and perhaps testosterone) i was not able to hit some other well known hot spots such as oasis, golden time, club elite, le palace, etc. i will have to leave coverage of these places to others on this thread. and if you don't know all the joints i refer to in this field report, not to worry. virtually every cabbie here worth his license will. this is a city of 1. 5 million that lives like it's mayberry! i will also submit another subsequent report shortly with more details on some basic recommendations for newbies or infrequent visitors to panama city. but first, the news:
club habanos. hands down, still my favorite place for just the sheer ecstasy of beautiful chica overload. i know i get some strenuous argument from some of my fellow mongers when i say it is the best place on the planet for this hobby, with sites in brazil frequently being mentioned as surpassing this club for total numbers and attractiveness. having never been to that country (yet) i will have to humbly defer to those who know both locations. but i've mongered on four continents over 25 years, and for me this spot actually exceeds my not inconsiderable experiences even in the fabled 'man-heavens' of macau, thailand, and the philippines. to each his own, i suppose.
it has been about a year since i last saw this humming, thriving locale of pure hot, sexy latina freelance loveliness, and i immediately noted that it has been altered and expanded to be even more of an 'open air' affair, (no pun intended) with the only enclosed party room now upstairs on the 2nd floor. as usual, the possibilities were about 90% columbiana (that's just fine with me) with a few dominicanas thrown in for variety. i actually met one of the few true panamanian providers i've ever run into upstairs. nice, but paled in comparison to her incredible chica sisters from elsewhere in the latina world. there must have been 50-60 or more ladies here by 11:00 pm on a warm, muggy weekday evening, each more gorgeous than the next and outnumbering the hombres (mostly americans / europeans) by 2 to 1. lots of competition, so if you want to get those long, deep 'lustful stares' and smiles from some unbelievably sexy faces with amazingly hot figures, this is the place. about $ seemed to be the going rate. got digits from a 4 foot nothin' gorgeous spinner with a million dollar smile and arranged two actual hookups later in the week. stunner!
bad news was, as i was literally being driven to the airport by my wingman / local cabbie very early in the am just yesterday, a raid was in full force. my man apologized for being a few minutes late due to all the mandatory road stops. seems the policia had ringed the downtown area with a double or even triple cordon of checkpoints on the streets, conducting yet another immigration raid, with club h apparently at the epicenter. this started about 2:15 am he reported from one of his police buddies, and we were stopped twice at checkpoints on our way out about 5:30 am. i saw a couple of hapless, nice looking providers up against a squad car being questioned or detained. i hate that!
immigration raids are frequently the topic of discussion at the club with the chicas, but at least until this happened, it did not seem to dampen the action.
golden spa. tried a place for service that i'd only scoped out last year. open 24 hours and in a bit of a residential / industrial suburb, you park in back behind a blue building, and the price is. 90 for an hour of a bit of a massage and other 'attentions'. i was permitted to select from a hastily drawn line-up of 8 or so girls about 3 pm in the afternoon. i made my selection for no other reason than she bore an amazing likeness to a young lady i'd admired on the flight on the way into pty! daniela stated she was 27, columbiana, of course, and definitely a hot natural body a bit on the healthy side when fully unclothed. everything was available, including quite a bit of gfe action, dfk, manual penetration, etc. but when i inquired about greek lessons, she told me the price was an additional $. when i demurred, she asked what i was willing to pay, and when i said. 20, she laughed politely and that was the end of that negotiation! in retrospect, i suspect. 50 or so would have done the trick, but i didn't think she was worth it. the other providers in evidence were early 30's or so, a bit professional looking with a lot of artificial enhancement, but solid 7's and 8's. just not my cup of tea.
gruta azul. has been good in the past, but was dead beyond belief at 2 pm on a weekend afternoon, when the 4 or 5 chicas i saw in residence were apparently only then beginning to wake up and a lot more interested in the hot meal just delivered. we got barely a disinterested glance. pass.
la gloria sucursal del cielo. i'd run into a very nice gfe experience last year in this place with karina, a 32 year old tight bodied spinner. she had bolt ons but they were reasonable in size, exceptionally well done (kudos to her surgeon!) and was so damn good i just had to break my rule on that subject. the way these ladies must come in and out of columbia, i really didn't expect to see her here again, especially during the day. but i confirmed with the bar tender that yes, she still worked there, but only nightssome. i arranged my schedule so my one and only true late night adventure would include this place. and lo and behold, about 7:30 as i walked in, there was my little angel. as beautiful and attentive as ever, she seemed to trump even her considerable previous gfe skills. she professed to remember me very well, and recounted some minute details of our first encounter. she told me they rarely see anglos in clubs like this, especially someone who can carry on a reasonable conversation in spanish. at any rate, the place was dead, with about a dozen guys and perhaps as many chicas. i consider this place to be one of the few real values left in pty, especially when considering price vs. quality. they have a unique pricing structure of. 17 for 10 minutes, .34 for 20, and. 51 for 30 minutes. i usually like an hour or more, and karina never rushes you, but i simply cannot help myself when in her presence and 30 minutes fully drained my abilities. she is small, athletic, with a true rock hard apple butt, yet can be great at dfk and all sorts of other stimulation. bj is mostly, though not completely covered, and greek is off the menu. god, i do hope to see her once again. the ladies here are late 20's to early 30's with a few dominicanas, and mostly solid 7's. 8's and even a couple of 9's in my opinion. you can sit and drink / chat with the chicas as long as you want, and no high priced ladies' drinks. definitely not high pressure, but very friendly. you pay your fee and retire to a clean room in back whenever the mood strikes you.
la boca torrena / la mayor. i lump these two hot spots together as they are literally next door to each other in casco viejo, and though different types of clubs in many respects, somewhat similar in others. first, la mayor.
this place wasn't open on my last visit a year ago and i was eager to see what it was all about. open by 2 pm or so each day, it has your 'regulation' dance floor and the obligatory pole for the chicas. you pay $3 to get in but it pretty much covers your first drink. an extra 50 cents for a panama. they stamp your hand and you can get back in and out at ease. a nice feature when you want to slip next door to check out la boca torrena for a while. there are chicas, of course at la mayor, and many of them are pretty damn nice looking, with the usual columbianas and dominicanas. many seemed quite 'healthy' however, and i don't mean fat, just tall and well filled out, but i did see one particularly nice spinner. i finally got one of the providers to tell me how the pricing worked as we watched one bored chica after another do the mandatory two-dance minimum on stage. sorry, but for as sexy as they are, latinas just cannot hold a candle to american exotic dancers in my opinion. they 'stomp' more than dance, and they hug that pole like it's some kind of life-line. anyway, i digress. pricing was. 17 for 15 minutes and. 30 for 30 minutes in private rooms upstairs which i was told were very clean. and all of this without any clothing. seemed a quite fair price vs quality ratio, but i could not understand how these girls maintained all those healthy figures! not 'hungry' for business at all, they were totally unaggressive, usually just sitting by themselves or in small groups, looking quite bored. at first i thought it was just me, and some shyness about 'gringo encounters' but i noticed the local cholos got the same damn treatment. maybe it gets better in the evening. well worth a visit, however.
la b-t, right next door is about as low-down mongering as i've ever encountered in any 'organized' establishment. on my visits last year i had this large local as my wing-man, and still felt i was right on the edge at times. but throwing caution to the wind, i hit this place numerous times solo this go-round, always during the day or early evening. at the risk of repeating a lot of information many of you already know, it's just as dark, dank, and reeking of stale beer and [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) as ever. but i found early mornings particularly productive (open 24 hours, but i was there as early as 7 am some mornings). at that time there are still 30 or more chicas and very few cholos. i met a columbiana that struck my fancy and arranged for take-out the following morning. true to her word, she was there at 7 when i arrived and we hit a no-tel for. 11/3 hours. we negotiated to. 50 for what wound up being much longer than an hour of fun, and a real gfe experience, with absolutely everything on the table. a funny and all around charming lady as well. was a school teacher from cali in need of money. she admitted to being 45, and i know what you are thinking, but honest to god, she was all natural, and had a certain italian look about her. i would have bet money at 28 yo, maximum. her name was gabriela, and i got digits and even e-mail, but never got a chance to repeat, much to my chagrin.
she was relieved to participate in a one hour take-out, as i believe most of the ladies of la b-t are, with pricing varying from. 40..60 for most of the providers, and this is before any serious negotiations. a 10 minute run upstairs at la boca t. will run you. 15, but the rooms are disgusting, and i believe most girls take care of business with as much of their clothing on as physically possibly when using the local facility. none i met liked it at all! but the bar scene, with dozens and dozens of chicas constantly coming in and out, along with a definitely downscale clientele to match, is truly something to behold. as an obvious anglo at well over six feet and blonde hair and beard, i got more than my fair share of stares, mostly from the ladies, and once again, of the most lustful variety. i was told whites, and even black americans were very rare here, and i received a lot of caresses, smiles, and even a fair share of groping as i passed through the crowd, some even quite aggressive. still as much variety as ever, with a lot of young, dull eyed damas as well as aging pros, little spinners and not so little chunkies. it takes a while, but can usually spot an acceptable provider, at least to my tastes. and if not, just wander on back to la mayor for a while.
street action on calle uruguay. just for fun, my wing man and i toured this well know street for putas de la calle around midnight one evening. most were panamanias, with a few columbianas and even some transvestites thrown in for 'fun'. pricing ran. 20 to. 80 for a really hot looking 'quweko' or tranny. nothing to see here folks, just move along.
sorry for the length of my fr, but i hope it jogs a few good memories, and provides some last minute info for any fellow punters in, or on their way shortly to pty. have a good time, it's very hard not too.
What are the going rates from PTY airport to the Veneto / Belle Vista area? Arrive next week.
I also understand they have done away with the $5 entry fee at the airport?
Thanks.
What are the going rates from PTY airport to the Veneto / Belle Vista area? Arrive next week.
I also understand they have done away with the $5 entry fee at the airport?
Thanks. I just paid $25, but I'm using a cabbie I've known for a long time. And my trip was from PTY to the Belle Vista area. Might be getting a deal (or maybe NOT!)
FYI, cab rides within the city proper should never more than about 3 bucks. If you are paying much more than that, you are paying the 'gringo surcharge'. As always, ask before you pull away from the curb.
No entry fee, either.
What are the going rates from PTY airport to the Veneto / Belle Vista area? Arrive next week.
I also understand they have done away with the $5 entry fee at the airport?
Thanks. Go to the 2nd level departure area and take a cab thats delivering fares. They need a fare back to the city. $10. 00 to Venetto. $25. 00 or more if you use one from the depature area. No more $5. 00 tourist card.
I just paid $25, but I'm using a cabbie I've known for a long time. And my trip was from PTY to the Belle Vista area. Might be getting a deal (or maybe NOT!)
FYI, cab rides within the city proper should never more than about 3 bucks. If you are paying much more than that, you are paying the 'gringo surcharge'. As always, ask before you pull away from the curb.
No entry fee, either. Thanks, not a newbie, just sorting out the latest trends. I agree, never take a Veneto / hotel cab, walk down the block and get one passing by.
The Dirty Pirate
06-23-11, 00:31
I just paid $25, but I'm using a cabbie I've known for a long time. And my trip was from PTY to the Belle Vista area. Might be getting a deal (or maybe NOT!)
FYI, cab rides within the city proper should never more than about 3 bucks. If you are paying much more than that, you are paying the 'gringo surcharge'. As always, ask before you pull away from the curb.
No entry fee, either.I was there in mid-May and paid $28 to get to the Veneto area, I took a cab I found on my trip when I went to the airport, he charged me $20.
JayHighFive
06-23-11, 23:26
The Veneto quoted me a taxi for $30 plus 7% tax. I guess I should just get a taxi at the airport. Seem a little cheaper.
Jay.
I was there in mid-May and paid $28 to get to the Veneto area, I took a cab I found on my trip when I went to the airport, he charged me $20.
Moulin Rouge, Doll House, and Habano's Closed Due To Drug Sales.
Thursday, June 23 2011@04:47 PM COT.
The nights of fantasy on Via Veneto have been canceled since last Saturday. Two of the three sites dedicated to presenting "stripper shows" remain closed. The regular customers, both local and foreign, who frequented the Moulin Rouge and the Doll House, will have to wait to see the erotic and sensual dance of the girls who brighten the environment. Javier Caraballo, Panama's Anti Drug Prosecutor, told El Siglo that the clubs remain under investigation. In both places, the Directorate of Judicial Investigation (DIJ) , in conjunction with the Anti Drug Prosecutor's Office found people who were engaged in the sale of cocaine and the drug known as 'LSD'. In this operation, called Fiesta. 35 people were arrested, including tourists. Eight people remain in custody and under investigation. The authorities believe they are linked to the sale of narcotics. According to the prosecutor Caraballo, the 52 women who were dedicated to dancing and the "stripper show" had their entertainer's visas and permits. He said the operation, which also searched Habano's in the banking district near Calle 50, was carried out due to the persistent allegations of drug sales. (El Siglo)
Pajama Sam
06-24-11, 18:35
Fellow Mongers,
I just spoke to my regular girl in Panama and she had just spent four days in jail.
She had been upstairs (Club Foto) located in the second floor of Habanos when a huge law enforcement raid took place. Apparently they were looking for drugs and found a distribution network among the servers in the Habanos, first floor.
As a result everyone spent time in the slammer while they interrogated and sorted it all out. I understand the place was closed or is still closed.
All the working girls are in the clubs like La Bodeguita and Ache (H).
So, discretion is advised when visiting Habanos. I would probably make it a short stop to pick up talent and then move to a bar or restaurant nearby.
According to my chica, this has created a glut as chica's are scrambling for places to perch to look for work. I believe this is an opportunity to negotiate prices down from their current inflated spot. I think I would open with $50 for one shot.
The Venetto is very selective on the amount and quality of chicas it allows in right now, so that is also a limited alternative.
I have some digits available if you need help.
Monger On
[QUOTE=.
According to my chica, this has created a glut as chica's are scrambling for places to perch to look for work. I believe this is an opportunity to negotiate prices down from their current inflated spot. I think I would open with $50 for one shot. [/QUOTE]Panama Sam. Thanks for the update. Good to know, but I am wondering on how this will create a Glut. If anything all the girls will move to one bar. (A Che) and so will all the guys looking for them. Most of the girls from Habanos go over to A Che Around midnight anyway.
In addition, what usually happens after these raids is the girls hide out. Stay in there apts et. I have been down twice the night after immigration raids and every bar was virtually dead. The girls tend to hide out for a few days till things quiet down. The real problem is the long term future of Panama as these raids drug related or not are becoming more frequent.
JayHighFive
06-25-11, 14:16
I'm headed down on June 30th. Do you think Habanos will be open then. How long does it take for things to get back to normal after these raids. This will be my first time to Panama.
Jay.
Fellow Mongers,
I just spoke to my regular girl in Panama and she had just spent four days in jail.
She had been upstairs (Club Foto) located in the second floor of Habanos when a huge law enforcement raid took place. Apparently they were looking for drugs and found a distribution network among the servers in the Habanos, first floor.
As a result everyone spent time in the slammer while they interrogated and sorted it all out. I understand the place was closed or is still closed.
All the working girls are in the clubs like La Bodeguita and Ache (H).
So, discretion is advised when visiting Habanos. I would probably make it a short stop to pick up talent and then move to a bar or restaurant nearby.
According to my chica, this has created a glut as chica's are scrambling for places to perch to look for work. I believe this is an opportunity to negotiate prices down from their current inflated spot. I think I would open with $50 for one shot.
The Venetto is very selective on the amount and quality of chicas it allows in right now, so that is also a limited alternative.
I have some digits available if you need help.
Monger On
I'm headed down on June 30th. Do you think Habanos will be open then. How long does it take for things to get back to normal after these raids. This will be my first time to Panama.
Jay. Rumor is that Habanos will be open this Sat (today). Have to wait and see though. Girls are back in the Veneto and late night at Ahche is still good.
The Veneto quoted me a taxi for $30 plus 7% tax. I guess I should just get a taxi at the airport. Seem a little cheaper.
Jay. If you go upstairs to the departure area you can get a cab to the Veneto for 15. 00-20. 00, I read that on a previous post and tried it last night and paid 17. 00
In Panama City now, staying at the Veneto, if anyone wants to have a drink and B S about mongering leave me a msg on room phone in room number 824
Just wondering why not just go to Columbia instead of going to Panama for mongering? Is it safety? I am considering going to Bogota for the first time.
In Panama City now, staying at the Veneto, if anyone wants to have a drink and B S about mongering leave me a msg on room phone in room number 824Hows the current scene?
Pajama Sam
06-27-11, 18:42
Hi,
My regular chica stated that the girls are scrambling for work and will quote less money to make up for the lost time. She told me some of her friends are walking the streets to try to make up some of the money lost.
Bottom line is this guys, if you see drugs around when you are out and about, leave the premises! Don't take chance and get arrested with the rest of them. It is just a headache as you will have a very tense time and / or will have to pay off a cop in the process.
I think it skimming mundoanuncio or anunciosdiarios can yield very good results as I have done that and found some real gems. Those girls generally are pretty low key and don't watch the clock.
Be careful and monger on.
Panama Sam. Thanks for the update. Good to know, but I am wondering on how this will create a Glut. If anything all the girls will move to one bar. (A Che) and so will all the guys looking for them. Most of the girls from Habanos go over to A Che Around midnight anyway.
In addition, what usually happens after these raids is the girls hide out. Stay in there apts et. I have been down twice the night after immigration raids and every bar was virtually dead. The girls tend to hide out for a few days till things quiet down. The real problem is the long term future of Panama as these raids drug related or not are becoming more frequent.
As of tonight Habanos is re-opened. Not a huge volume of girls, but some pretty good quality.
Just wondering why not just go to Columbia instead of going to Panama for mongering? Is it safety? I am considering going to Bogota for the first time.Can't comment on the Bogata scene, but can on the Medellin scene. More spread out, some locations in very sketchy areas. Finding a trustworthy cabbie is tantamount. Costs vary greatly, some of the high end casas were $200 for 90-minutes. In the rundown areas, $30 for 30-minutes. Unfortunately, my only visit there was during a weekend of national elections and all the bars closed.
As of tonight Habanos is re-opened. Not a huge volume of girls, but some pretty good quality.Glad to hear, arrive in PTY Thursday night. What and where is A Che? Usually if we didn't find anything in the Veneto or Habanos, we'd go to La Bodaguita (sp?) as the bar of last resort. I take it, rather hope it was not Gringos who were involved in the drug activity? If I recall, the serves on the 1st floor were all little indians from the hills.
Glad to hear, arrive in PTY Thursday night. What and where is A Che? Usually if we didn't find anything in the Veneto or Habanos, we'd go to La Bodaguita (sp?) as the bar of last resort. I take it, rather hope it was not Gringos who were involved in the drug activity? If I recall, the serves on the 1st floor were all little indians from the hills.Ah-che is a place all the ladies go to late night after midnight. Just returned from 12 days in Panama city stayed at hotel Torres De Alba. Was at habanos before they closed, Veneto, Ah-Che, La Madame, Le Palace, Elite. Pulled some real stunners out of veneto, Habanos, and Ah-che.
The owner of A Che is also the owner of Bodeguita. I do not know if Bodeguita is still open but the entire crowd from there just goes to A che now. Even the employees are all the same and are at A che. For all intents and purposes Bodeguita is dead. It has all just transfered over to A che.
Ah-che is a place all the ladies go to late night after midnight. Just returned from 12 days in Panama city stayed at hotel Torres De Alba. Was at habanos before they closed, Veneto, Ah-Che, La Madame, Le Palace, Elite. Pulled some real stunners out of veneto, Habanos, and Ah-che.But what is the set-up? Is it a bar, cover charge, near Veneto, etc? Tried to google it, but came up with nada.
But what is the set-up? Is it a bar, cover charge, near Veneto, etc? Tried to google it, but came up with nada.Ah-che is a nightclub went there 4 times first time was charged $10. 00 cover charge after that got for free the other 3 times I went there. Location 1 or 2 blocks south of Elite if you ask a cabbie to take you to Ah-Che they all know where it is. GOOD LUCK
Devilspinkick
06-30-11, 03:05
Howdy guys,
In a couple of months it looks like I'll have a long layover in Panama City while returning from Rio. I will arrive in the morning and leave around 6PM, so night time options are off the table. Are there any other options beside Oasis Massage? If Oasis is my only real option then I hope they have a good selection available in the afternoon.
- DSK
How come the other casinos don't have pros?
Seems like Veneto benefits from the increased traffic.
Howdy guys,
In a couple of months it looks like I'll have a long layover in Panama City while returning from Rio. I will arrive in the morning and leave around 6PM, so night time options are off the table. Are there any other options beside Oasis Massage? If Oasis is my only real option then I hope they have a good selection available in the afternoon.
- DSKMay I suggest you read my recent Field Report (#3172) below. I was restricted primarily to daytime hours for mongering as well. Two places cited (Golden Spa and the notorious 'Cantina Boca Torena' go 24x7. And La Mayor opens at 1 PM or so. Both of the latter are in Casco Viejo and any cabbie worth a tip will know the quickest way to all three.
The real question is, do your balls clank when you walk, can you handle it down-and-dirty at La BT, or the slightly nicer La Mayor next door? LOL
Devilspinkick
07-01-11, 06:19
May I suggest you read my recent Field Report (#3172) below. I was restricted primarily to daytime hours for mongering as well. Two places cited (Golden Spa and the notorious 'Cantina Boca Torena' go 24x7. And La Mayor opens at 1 PM or so. Both of the latter are in Casco Viejo and any cabbie worth a tip will know the quickest way to all three. The real question is, do your balls clank when you walk, can you handle it down-and-dirty at La BT, or the slightly nicer La Mayor next door? LOLThanks for the info. I'll check out your past posting.
As far as "roughing it" goes, I think I'll go for the more upscale options. I've had my times hiting bordellos in places such as Cambodia, Romania, Ecuador, etc. I greatly prefer the atmosphere of a gentlemen's club as opposed to the "crack-house" feel of a hole in the wall brothel.
Just my thing, but if I happen to pass by La BT I might at least stick my head in the door.
- DSK
JayHighFive
07-01-11, 15:56
I'm in Panama now and last nigh the Moulin Rouge and Doll House were both closed. I didn't go but the cabbie said Habanos was closed as well.
As of tonight Habanos is re-opened. Not a huge volume of girls, but some pretty good quality.
I'm in Panama now and last nigh the Moulin Rouge and Doll House were both closed. I didn't go but the cabbie said Habanos was closed as well.I would ignore the cab driver and walk down to habanos and see for yourself. Lots of times cab drivers just want you to bypass habanos and take you to, le palace, elite, golden times. How is the action at the Veneto? I think right now things are bad. Keep us posted and try to make the best of it.
JayHighFive
07-02-11, 03:02
I will walk down to Habanos now. The Veneto is pretty good. Let night after 9pm about 70-80 girls. Some goo looking ones too.
I would ignore the cab driver and walk down to habanos and see for yourself. Lots of times cab drivers just want you to bypass habanos and take you to, le palace, elite, golden times. How is the action at the Veneto? I think right now things are bad. Keep us posted and try to make the best of it.
JayHighFive
07-02-11, 14:54
Yeah,
Habanos was open last night. There were maybe 25. 30 chicas around 11pm. The Veneto had less talent than the night before.
I will walk down to Habanos now. The Veneto is pretty good. Let night after 9pm about 70-80 girls. Some goo looking ones too.
Yeah,
Habanos was open last night. There were maybe 25. 30 chicas around 11pm. The Veneto had less talent than the night before.Good to hear. Enjoy, I can't wait to go back. Not sure when.
Yeah,
Habanos was open last night. There were maybe 25. 30 chicas around 11pm. The Veneto had less talent than the night before.Habanos had one good night, last Thursday. Not overly impressed over prior years, actually liked the old building instead. New building is open air, which means no air. $4.40 for a Balboa and had to wait for one guy to make it to our table to take our order, just to tell a waitress to get it for us, ridiculous service. No GFE in PTY; just sucky, fucky, watch the clock and pay me now. Bodaguita VIP and Ah-Che were both empty after 1 a.m., not sure where the girls were going. Veneto had a better selection, but it's a terrible location to talk to someone. My friends swear by PTY, but I'll take SJO over it, hands down. One Columbiana we chatted it up with at Habanos said that if they get picked up by immigration, they either pay what they're told, or they have sex with the immigration official. Nice system!
I'm in Panama now and last nigh the Moulin Rouge and Doll House were both closed. I didn't go but the cabbie said Habanos was closed as well.Both are closed indefinitely, there was a raid and drugs were "supposedly" found on the premises
Well, Swore I wouldn't go back after my recent reports of the place going down hill and being a total Non GFE. The good ole days of 4 and 5 years ago are long gone. However I have a stop over in PTY while in route to Guyaquil Ecuador to do some mongering and figured I will make it an extended stop over in Panama of a couple days. Hope Habanos and La Che are open and hopping. Also have one semi regular in Panama who is overly excited to see me. (that right there tells me business is slow). Good luck to me. Again.
Any updated info on Le Palace?
Any updated info on Le Palace?No changes, same quality of girls, same price for take outs. Only change that I've noticed is that they have an all you can drink for US passport wielding people for $20 mon, wed and fri I think
Both are closed indefinitely, there was a raid and drugs were "supposedly" found on the premisesDoll House and Moulin Rouge are closed but Habanos is definitely open- don't believe what the cabbies say, they're just looking to get commission from Le Palace, Elite and Club Miami.
No changes, same quality of girls, same price for take outs. Only change that I've noticed is that they have an all you can drink for US passport wielding people for $20 mon, wed and fri I thinkIf I remember correctly the girls were asking 200-250 for 2 hours and the house fine was 100?
If I remember correctly the girls were asking 200-250 for 2 hours and the house fine was 100?Girls 200-250 160 for house.
It is open bar every night for US Passport carrying American citizens, $20. 00. Here is the link.
http://www.lepalacenightclub.com/promociones.html
No changes, same quality of girls, same price for take outs. Only change that I've noticed is that they have an all you can drink for US passport wielding people for $20 mon, wed and fri I think
Both are closed indefinitely, there was a raid and drugs were "supposedly" found on the premisesHello, everyone, just to give an update on the Rouge-House connection affair. The D. A has finally released more info on the raids. About 60 girls where detained and most of them claimed to be extorted to work as prostitues and to sell drugs, as the owners of the places would bring them from their countries of residence with false reasons, upon arrival they would take their passports away and forced them into the clubs.
4-6 formal arrests have been made, won't go into too much detail but if you read spanish, there is a full article in www.prensa.com. Interesting to note, one of the persons mentioned there is related to the owner (at least to what I think) of the Elite franchise.
Fellow Mongers,
I have some digits available if you need help.
Monger OnHow about sharing the digits with the rest of the guys on here.
Damn, thats too bad! I had some good times at the Moulin Rouge!
Hello, everyone, just to give an update on the Rouge-House connection affair. The D. A has finally released more info on the raids. About 60 girls where detained and most of them claimed to be extorted to work as prostitues and to sell drugs, as the owners of the places would bring them from their countries of residence with false reasons, upon arrival they would take their passports away and forced them into the clubs.
4-6 formal arrests have been made, won't go into too much detail but if you read spanish, there is a full article in.
www.prensa.com.
Interesting to note, one of the persons mentioned there is related to the owner (at least to what I think) of the Elite franchise.
Was there the last 4 days. Same story Habanos, Veneto, Ache, Bodegeta all are open. Still not of the quality and friendlyness of 5 years ago but, okay for a weekend. Normal amount of girls in each but not an abundance. Probably the best looking girls were at Habanos. Veneto was a total let down each night as far as quality.
Moulon Rouge closed and roped off with Police Tape.
Joey Smith
07-21-11, 12:25
Guys. Haven't been to Panama City in nine months. Keep hearing about this club called A Che? I'm staying at the Venetto. Can anyone point me in the right direction to A Che and the best times to go?
Thanks
Guys. Haven't been to Panama City in nine months. Keep hearing about this club called A Che? I'm staying at the Venetto. Can anyone point me in the right direction to A Che and the best times to go?
ThanksAche is in Calle Uruguay in the corner across from Coffee Tree and right after Barrafina restaurant on your right.
I was there last night. Ok selection of girls. The prices they were asking way out. $400 for 2hours. Negotiated and got a few down to 100 and 150.
Joey Smith
07-23-11, 13:46
I was there last night. Ok selection of girls. The prices they were asking way out. $400 for 2hours. Negotiated and got a few down to 100 and 150.What is the best time to go?
Ache is in Calle Uruguay in the corner across from Coffee Tree and right after Barrafina restaurant on your right.Or, the side street across from Elite II, Hooters on the corner. One block down on your left. Definitely a late night bar and hit or miss. Was a miss on my visit a couple weeks ago, on a Friday night at 1 a. M.
I was there last night. Ok selection of girls. The prices they were asking way out. $400 for 2hours. Negotiated and got a few down to 100 and 150.Best not to ask for 2 hours up front, get them for 1 hour for $100. Once they're there make them have a good enough time to where they loose track of time and stay over the hour- if that doesn't work, offer them $50 for next hour, they're already there so many times they'll say yes. I also tell them there are very nice girls in Golden Time that are just as pretty for $84 for the hour.
Can't comment on the Bogata scene, but can on the Medellin scene. More spread out, some locations in very sketchy areas. Finding a trustworthy cabbie is tantamount. Costs vary greatly, some of the high end casas were $200 for 90-minutes. In the rundown areas, $30 for 30-minutes. Unfortunately, my only visit there was during a weekend of national elections and all the bars closed.You're a bit off on your prices. I think you're confusing pesos with dollars. I've been to Medellin half a dozen times, The highest end place is about 200k ($100. $113 with current exchange rate) for an hour. The lowend casas are 30k ($15. $17 currently) for 30 minutes. It's relatively safe. You do do need taxis late at night to some of the areas. The city is big and everything is pretty spread out. From the looks of things. A lot cheaper than Panama. You can get TLN for $50-150. Sounds like those are the HOURLY rates in Panama.
Why would you want to go to Panama instead for Colombians? Ignorance for some people. Another reason is Medellin has no real freelance scene like Panama and CR. It's among the cheapest of the 3 major cities in Colombia. Oh and the no English factor.
I'll going to Medellin soon and since there is a layover in Panama, I figure I might as well stay a couple of days here. I'm hoping my talk of home can get the Colombian chicas to lower their prices. LOL
Anyone know what happened to them? I went there and it was closed but the their site is still up.
http://www.thediamondclub.com.pa/aboutus.html
What is the best time to go?Well I was there 10pm and at times after 2am. The 2am you have left over so not sure if I would do that again.
Although I did have a great luck picking up from habanos. A columbian for $150 for an hour, but she did everything to me. BBBJ and rimming, best part was she said to relax she put a rubber on her finger and did a little anal on me while she was blowing me. That was very unexpected.
Well I was there 10pm and at times after 2am. The 2am you have left over so not sure if I would do that again.
Although I did have a great luck picking up from habanos. A columbian for $150 for an hour, but she did everything to me. BBBJ and rimming, best part was she said to relax she put a rubber on her finger and did a little anal on me while she was blowing me. That was very unexpected.IMHO, before 10PM or 11PM. The reason is 'fresh pussy'. I hate the feeling of having to think there have been a few dicks sticking into the hole I am about to enter. But that is just me.
Good days gents.
EZ
Anyone know what happened to them? I went there and it was closed but the their site is still up.
http://www.thediamondclub.com.pa/aboutus.htmlThis was another case of dubios migration paperwork. A big scandal broke up stating that the subsecretary was involved in bribes and the like with the visas extended to the girls. Most of the girls, if not all, were european. Club was closed, people went to jail and all hell broke loose. Also forgot to mention, some of the girls went AWOL and escaped the raid and they are somewhere in the country!!
IMHO, before 10PM or 11PM. The reason is 'fresh pussy'. I hate the feeling of having to think there have been a few dicks sticking into the hole I am about to enter. But that is just me.
Good days gents.
EZTo all: haven't seen any updated postings in the last 2 wks, will be in PC Aug 18-21. How's the action at the usual haunts: Veneto, Habanos, Ache, Palace, Elite (PS anyone know Marcela from Elite?) Also wanted to know if anyone has further particulars on chica at GirlPanama website who calls herself Scarlett? Looks like a winner. Cheers
Columbian Lover
08-13-11, 09:54
Hi,
Can anyone suggest a non pro bar or club to meet non pro or locals in Panama City.
I usually stay at the Veneto Hotel and there always a good selection at the Veneto, but most are Pro's.
Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
Thanks
Hi,
Can anyone suggest a non pro bar or club to meet non pro or locals in Panama City.
I usually stay at the Veneto Hotel and there always a good selection at the Veneto, but most are Pro's.
Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
ThanksGo to Calle Uruguay. There you can go to Prive, Pure and the club on the top floor of the Manrey Hotel.
Also, I heard there is a nice bar at the Trump Tower.
Good luck
Trump Tower is far and away heads and shoulders above anything in Panama right now. It is truly built for the elite, those who don't mind paying extra for the exclusivity. If you go there, expect to be snobbed quite a bit unless you know people and a lot of them there in the upper class and inner circles of the elite in Panama.
Go to Calle Uruguay. There you can go to Prive, Pure and the club on the top floor of the Manrey Hotel.
Also, I heard there is a nice bar at the Trump Tower.
Good luck
I got a chance to spend a few days in PTY. Stayed at the Four Points which was girl friendly. It's not far from Habanos. Driving around Ave Mexico I picked up an SW and went to the local push and did the deed. 20US. She was cool and told me things were bad economy wise in Panama. The next day went to what used to be La Movida. A building near Plaza 5 de Mayo and banged a black colobian chick that's been there for two years. This place used to be quite a hang out but has died to some point. Still there are a few that work there. My last night I went to the bars in casco viejo mentioned here. These places are what you see in a movie. Muskie, hot and the stence at times is overwhelming. There are some hotties there but I would not hit it there. Best thing to do is have her go with you somewhere else. I looked but decided to leave. As I went to the car there was a panamanian girl at the corner so I struck a conversation with her. A MILF and looked pretty decent. She said she would go with for 20 and off we went. She must've stayed for 4 hrs and banged her twice cause I ended taking her back at 4am. She said she would've stayed TLN but had to work her regular job in the am. Panama is a good place you just got to know where to go and there are many non-pros to be had. RTFF!
Be safe!
You're a bit off on your prices. I think you're confusing pesos with dollars. I've been to Medellin half a dozen times, The highest end place is about 200k ($100. $113 with current exchange rate) for an hour. The lowend casas are 30k ($15. $17 currently) for 30 minutes. It's relatively safe. You do do need taxis late at night to some of the areas. The city is big and everything is pretty spread out. From the looks of things. A lot cheaper than Panama. You can get TLN for $50-150. Sounds like those are the HOURLY rates in Panama.
Why would you want to go to Panama instead for Colombians? Ignorance for some people. Another reason is Medellin has no real freelance scene like Panama and CR. It's among the cheapest of the 3 major cities in Colombia. Oh and the no English factor.
I'll going to Medellin soon and since there is a layover in Panama, I figure I might as well stay a couple of days here. I'm hoping my talk of home can get the Colombian chicas to lower their prices. LOLHioctane: Tried to respond to your PM, says you need to delete your old messages. In response: Pretty clean place actually. I've stayed there five times now. Furniture is starting to get outdated, but it is comfortable. All rooms are large with a sofa and fridge, in-room safe as well. Bathrooms are a bit small, but have a walk-in shower.
Hooters is a two block walk, it sits right across from Elite II. Also, if you go down the side street that Hooters sits on, there is a very reasonable Columbian eatery (very similar to Manilos across from the Veneto) and a pizza place there as well. The hotel also has their own food and they have a new patio set up with good deals on lunch specials. Have never been stopped when bringing in a guest, they don't even take their I'd. If you like to swim, their pool is awesome.
Hi,
Can anyone suggest a non pro bar or club to meet non pro or locals in Panama City.
I usually stay at the Veneto Hotel and there always a good selection at the Veneto, but most are Pro's.
Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
ThanksManrey is pretty good, Trump is extremely high end- just recently opened so not too much of a crowd or that many single girls hanging out. Libar by Atlapa has a lot of pretty single girls on Fri and Sat's after midnight.
I stayed at the Veneto Hotel in Panama City Last night. Downs stairs in the Casino there is a large selection of girls to choose from, one which gets bigger the closer to midnight it gets.
There is no problem taking them upto your room. Time with the girls costs anywhere between $100 and $150 depending upon how well you can bargain with them.
There is a great selection of girls to choose from all over Central America here.
I stayed at the Veneto Hotel in Panama City Last night. Downs stairs in the Casino there is a large selection of girls to choose from, one which gets bigger the closer to midnight it gets.
There is no problem taking them upto your room. Time with the girls costs anywhere between $100 and $150 depending upon how well you can bargain with them.
There is a great selection of girls to choose from all over Central America here.If you are still in Panama and not familiar with it, try out Ashe on calle Uruguay- excellent selection and quality- best to go after 1am though
Quick Report,
Did my usual rounds yesterday. Ashe, Veneto, Habanos. Lots of new girls and old girls back in twn.
While in veneto I met an American guy who has a private car service here in Panama City. Gave him a try. Nice 4x4, with AC, etc. Just call him and say you are from the ISG board. That will give you a bit of a discount. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Panama-Pickup/150930978326554 That is his website and phne number is 507-63747232.
Side nte, Veneto has been real good lately, problem is, the girls stick to 100-150 per session.
Free
Quick Report,
Did my usual rounds yesterday. Ashe, Veneto, Habanos. Lots of new girls and old girls back in twn.
While in veneto I met an American guy who has a private car service here in Panama City. Gave him a try. Nice 4x4, with AC, etc. Just call him and say you are from the ISG board. That will give you a bit of a discount.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Panama-Pickup/150930978326554
That is his website and phne number is 507-63747232.
Side nte, Veneto has been real good lately, problem is, the girls stick to 100-150 per session.
FreeNice to hear things are picking up. I think I might just book my trip in September. Appreciate the report. Was it good all nights you were there?
Quick Report,
Side nte, Veneto has been real good lately, problem is, the girls stick to 100-150 per session.
FreeGentleman. I have a feeling we're overpaying the chicas in Panama City. Only a few months ago, you could have a 10 for $100/1Hr or less for lesser quality at Veneto. It was basically $50-$100 per session. At the present time, the economy is particularly bad in Panama and the chicas desperately need work and there are tons of them (most are from Colombia of course) so there is an ample supply and therefore please refrain yourself from paying over $100 for the sake of many of us who are mongering on a budget. Please firmly hold your ground ($50-$100/1 hr) and you'll do us a very huge favor. Thanks a million.
Good days gents.
EZ
Gentleman. I have a feeling we're overpaying the chicas in Panama City. Only a few months ago, you could have a 10 for $100/1Hr or less for lesser quality at Veneto. It was basically $50-$100 per session. At the present time, the economy is particularly bad in Panama and the chicas desperately need work and there are tons of them (most are from Colombia of course) so there is an ample supply and therefore please refrain yourself from paying over $100 for the sake of many of us who are mongering on a budget. Please firmly hold your ground ($50-$100/1 hr) and you'll do us a very huge favor. Thanks a million.
Good days gents.
EZYES, I totally agree, lets stay firm. Its a buyers market.
Gentleman. I have a feeling we're overpaying the chicas in Panama City. Only a few months ago, you could have a 10 for $100/1Hr or less for lesser quality at Veneto. It was basically $50-$100 per session. At the present time, the economy is particularly bad in Panama and the chicas desperately need work and there are tons of them (most are from Colombia of course) so there is an ample supply and therefore please refrain yourself from paying over $100 for the sake of many of us who are mongering on a budget. Please firmly hold your ground ($50-$100/1 hr) and you'll do us a very huge favor. Thanks a million.
Good days gents.
EZCould not agree more. We need the guys to have a little more awareness and a lot more backbone. With the economic crunch, you can get attractive girls in NYC of off craigslist and backpage for $150, why pay for air-fare and hotel to pay that amount down here.
Gentleman. I have a feeling we're overpaying the chicas in Panama City. Only a few months ago, you could have a 10 for $100/1Hr or less for lesser quality at Veneto. It was basically $50-$100 per session. At the present time, the economy is particularly bad in Panama and the chicas desperately need work and there are tons of them (most are from Colombia of course) so there is an ample supply and therefore please refrain yourself from paying over $100 for the sake of many of us who are mongering on a budget. Please firmly hold your ground ($50-$100/1 hr) and you'll do us a very huge favor. Thanks a million.
Good days gents.
EZJust laugh off the ones that start at over $100. Even they know. I had one at $60 and few $80 from Veneto (the earlier in the evening the lower you should get). Others were $100 and I tried to get extra time for it. None more than $100. At Le Mayor it was $17. I busted my nut at Le Mayor before checking out Boca Torena, man Boca Torena had some real cuties and was packed at 2pm.
This one at Veneto was telling me she could get gringos for $200 and teasingly told me I was a 'baad maan' for only paying $100 (she was sweet though) , I cud have paid $80 if I spent more time haggling but I am not the stickler type plus I was winning a bunch at blackjack with the loose rules they have. Daamn, wish casinos in US had those rules.
Just laugh off the ones that start at over $100. Even they know. I had one at $60 and few $80 from Veneto (the earlier in the evening the lower you should get). Others were $100 and I tried to get extra time for it. None more than $100. At Le Mayor it was $17. I busted my nut at Le Mayor before checking out Boca Torena, man Boca Torena had some real cuties and was packed at 2pm.
This one at Veneto was telling me she could get gringos for $200 and teasingly told me I was a 'baad maan' for only paying $100 (she was sweet though) , I cud have paid $80 if I spent more time haggling but I am not the stickler type plus I was winning a bunch at blackjack with the loose rules they have. Daamn, wish casinos in US had those rules.Yes, they have crazy rules, I remember doubling down after being dealt 3 cards. I won some money playin also.
This one at Veneto was telling me she could get gringos for $200 and teasingly told me I was a 'baad maan' for only paying $100 (she was sweet though) , I cud have paid $80 if I spent more time haggling but I am not the stickler type plus I was winning a bunch at blackjack with the loose rules they have.$200, why even go there if they're going to pay that much? I've had it with Panama, Thailand is my new playground!
Joey Smith
09-01-11, 00:11
$200, why even go there if they're going to pay that much? I've had it with Panama, Thailand is my new playground!During my last two trips. All the chicas I've encountered start at $150 or higher. I realize some of these guys are new to the game. But if these guys continue to pay more than $100 for chicas at Habamos, Veneto or Ache their just wasting $$$ and inflating prices for all of us.
I've stood firm at $100 and threatened to move on and all of them have agreed.
Panama is no longer in my top 4 Central / South America / Caribbean mongering destinations. Better values in the COL / CR / DR / CUR.
During my last two trips. All the chicas I've encountered start at $150 or higher. I realize some of these guys are new to the game. But if these guys continue to pay more than $100 for chicas at Habamos, Veneto or Ache their just wasting $$$ and inflating prices for all of us.
I've stood firm at $100 and threatened to move on and all of them have agreed.
Panama is no longer in my top 4 Central / South America / Caribbean mongering destinations. Better values in the COL / CR / DR / CUR.
Agree with your assessment. Last trip to Panama / Habanos in May, there were maybe three girls in the bar at 2 am on a Saturday night and no guys and they wanted $200 initially. Ah-Che and VIP La Bodequita (sp?) both dead on a weekend as well. Wasn't ready to make any counter but agreed we would all go back to the Veneto. There were about 30 girls there, still that late. Much easier to negotiate with Veneto girls, but hate that the bar is so small. Some Veneto girl always willing to go for $80. I still prefer the venues in CR for a better selection and personalities of the girls. The Blue Marlin girls with sit and drink with you all night, better potential for a TLN.
Leave for Thailand tomorrow, no comparison to Latin destinations can be made.
During my last two trips. All the chicas I've encountered start at $150 or higher. I realize some of these guys are new to the game. But if these guys continue to pay more than $100 for chicas at Habamos, Veneto or Ache their just wasting $$$ and inflating prices for all of us.
I've stood firm at $100 and threatened to move on and all of them have agreed.
Panama is no longer in my top 4 Central / South America / Caribbean mongering destinations. Better values in the COL / CR / DR / CUR.Panama is starting to get worse with these high prices but one thing about Panama is the women, they are all beautiful compared to DR or CR. Unless you go straight to Colombia
you go straight to ColombiaThat deserves my wholehearted vote. It only costs $100USD more in airfare via Copa Airlines but you have more choices, more selections, and more options, specifically on how you want to spend your hard-earned money. Just my 2 cents.
Good days gents.
EZ
I have been to Panama probably close to 100 times in the last 5 years. The place is not the same. The girls are very profesional and no longer seem to appreciate a nice Gringo.
In anycase, I have never even 5 years ago paid less than $150 at Habanos, Veneto, or Bodeguito. My friend once paid $100 for BJ only.
I always get TLN but, even if I didn't I have never been able or have I seen anyone pull a girl for less than $150.
Now the girls I am pulling are top notch. They are the upper 10 percent of the girls there. I certainly know the game and definately know how to haggle but how everyone is scoring these $100 girls is beyond me. Are they bottom barrel, Are you having to wade through 20 "no's" before finally getting a yes. I wonder.
About 3 years ago a chica I knew that was working down there told me the girls had formed a "pact" and after Jan 1st the new price was going to be $200. 00 Never lower.
I laughed so hard. She made it seem like they were a union.
Anyway that lasted about two days and they all went to $150 again.
Gentleman that really is the standard price. Most will start at $200 and then go down to $150 but never have I seen less
That deserves my wholehearted vote. It only costs $100USD more in airfare via Copa Airlines but you have more choices, more selections, and more options, specifically on how you want to spend your hard-earned money. Just my 2 cents.
Good days gents.
EZBut the only thing that I like about Panama is veneto, you can gamble chill out by the bar and have plenty of options with women. In Colombia, I don't think there is anything like Veneto, just a lot of casas you need to go to. Unless I am mistaken. The beauty about Panama is you don't even have to leave your hotel.
But the only thing that I like about Panama is veneto, you can gamble chill out by the bar and have plenty of options with women. In Colombia, I don't think there is anything like Veneto, just a lot of casas you need to go to. Unless I am mistaken. The beauty about Panama is you don't even have to leave your hotel.Right on Snipps. There is no need to look past Veneto. Its the all in one destination and the non smoking makes it so much better. I did not get a chance to check out Ache simply because I was so tied up at Veneto at nights.
I saw this petite gorda earlier in the day at Manolos and later that night she was next to me at the blackjack tables and she was well behaved unlike the vast majority who are haggling for a 5 or a 10$ chip all day every day. So, I decided to take her up to my room for $80 / hr and later realized she was a little bit more gorda than her dress revealed, but what the heck, its all fair during a short vacation.
I have been to Panama probably close to 100 times in the last 5 years. The place is not the same. The girls are very profesional and no longer seem to appreciate a nice Gringo.
In anycase, I have never even 5 years ago paid less than $150 at Habanos, Veneto, or Bodeguito. My friend once paid $100 for BJ only.
I always get TLN but, even if I didn't I have never been able or have I seen anyone pull a girl for less than $150.
Now the girls I am pulling are top notch. They are the upper 10 percent of the girls there. I certainly know the game and definately know how to haggle but how everyone is scoring these $100 girls is beyond me. Are they bottom barrel, Are you having to wade through 20 "no's" before finally getting a yes. I wonder.
About 3 years ago a chica I knew that was working down there told me the girls had formed a "pact" and after Jan 1st the new price was going to be $200. 00 Never lower.
I laughed so hard. She made it seem like they were a union.
Anyway that lasted about two days and they all went to $150 again.
Gentleman that really is the standard price. Most will start at $200 and then go down to $150 but never have I seen lessWell, I never had anyone quote me even close to $150 and even if they did it was in a hushed tone knowing they are not going to get it. $100 max and that is it for me. Maybe I am picking more realistic average women, but certainly I am going for what I like. I don't like plastic or cosmetically enhanced or ones wearing heavy make up, I am not looking for the perfect shape, but personality and attitude counts a lot. The more real and girl next door type is what I like. After all my years of mongering I have adjusted to picking the ones that work for me. None of the Le Palace crap, can't stand it. Some of the women I did not even talk about price until it was all said and done. If you are having a good time with the chica then its all based on trust and understanding. If possible I would like to see pics of the 'top notch' types you are referring to, only out of curiosity.
Here is one from habanos who agreed to my first quote of $100 for two nuts. More of her I posted in photo gallery.
But the only thing that I like about Panama is veneto, you can gamble chill out by the bar and have plenty of options with women. In Colombia, I don't think there is anything like Veneto, just a lot of casas you need to go to. Unless I am mistaken. The beauty about Panama is you don't even have to leave your hotel.Sorry for the non-mongering question but what are the table mins at the Veneto?
Sorry for the non-mongering question but what are the table mins at the Veneto?If I remember correctly, it was 5 dollars.
If I remember correctly, it was 5 dollars.Its $3 on tables with CSM and $5 for hand shuffled. On non busy hours hand shuffled could be $3 too I think.
CultureShock
09-03-11, 21:47
I am planning a trip to Panama City, and have not been there since 2001, and it seems much has changed. I went through the last year of reports in this thread and came up with a on page run down. I ask that anyone please jump in if I missed something or should be corrected.
As far as the current situation is concerned I understand that Habanos and Oasis are currently open, however Moulin Rouge and the Dollhouse are still closed. Taxi drivers as usually will say Habanos and all the pickup bar type setups are closed in favor of high end strip clubs where they get a cut.
Friendly Hotels.
1. Hotel Milan: Cangerjo, $65.
2. Tower House Suites: Punta Patilla, $70.
3. Torres de Alba: Cangrejo $65.
4. The Executive Hotel: Av. Aquilino de la Guardia, short distance from Veneto with $10 chica fee. Online reservations broken so no idea of price.
5. Plaza Paitilla: Punta Patilla, $115 to $150.
6. The Las Vegas Suites: Cangrejo next to Veneto, $20 chica fee, no way to determine rate online.
7. Veneto Hotel: $135.
The Veneto seems to be the best option, and I assume they do not charge a chica fee, although please correct me if I am wrong or if any of the other hotels I listed above charge and I did not note it. The Marriott is not chica friendly, however it is possible to sneak a girl into the hotel through the casino, but forget about having girls meet you at the hotel. The El Panama is definitely not chica friendly.
Cangerjo
The area around Veneto is called Cangerjo, and options here include the Venetto casino bar, Moulin Rouge, Oasis, Doll House. Also in this area, but a few few blocks further south near the Marriott Hotel is Habanos, and Le Palace.
The setup at Habanos is the same, pickup bar like the Vento bar where the girls set their own price, although they do not have a hotel.
The Oasis functions like a massage palour and they have a lunchtime or daytime special rate. They do not have strippers but you can order a drink. Is it more popular at night?
All the night clubs or strip clubs have nude entertainment, cover charges, expensive drinks, more expensive drinks for the ladies, and want $200. $300 for sex offsite.
Ache replaces Bodegeta, and despite being called a "night club" is actually just another bar like Habanos, but has been mentioned as being more popular around 1am. I assume this also is in the same area.
Google Map of the area I found a "Le Madame Night Club". Is this currently open or perhaps is presently named another business?
Is Elite the same place as Elite II or are these separate locations or businesses?
Also, am I missing anything else in this area? Perhaps, Crazy horse?
El Dorado
This is the area around El Dorado mall, which is 2. 4 km away from Hotel El Panama. You can get there from El Cangrejo by taxi for how much? I assume just a couple dollars, and I also notice there is a mass transit system that has a stop at El Dorado. It looks like the closest place to jump on the metro from the Veneto would be the Parada de la Nacional (Tumba Muetro).
The Google map shows a few locations around the Dorado Mall that are mentioned here, the Rey supermarket and also the Do It center.
In this vicinity you can find Golden Times, Gold Fingers, Caribbean Center and the Miami Club. All function as a massage parlor, expect the Miami Club also has a stripper pole where later in the day or the eveving the girls will strip. Expect to pay about $90 in any of these places, but Golden Time seems to be the favorite.
How late is the Miami club open? Also, are the MPs like Golden Time open late as well?
More Information
An Internet search turned up this page, which seems to have some relatively current information about the situation with the Doll House and Moulin Rouge.
http://www.latinblush.com/2011/07/vento-hotel-panama-city/
I also turned up some stuff on Casco Viejo, but this sounds really cheap hookers and even cheaper rooms in a dubious location. The places to go would be Cantina Boca Torena, and La Mayor. Also something about a place called Golden Spa.
I would like to thank everyone who as shared information so far. I am looking forward to my trip to Panama City, but just want to do the required do diligence before I do the hookers.
I have been to Panama probably close to 100 times in the last 5 years. The place is not the same. The girls are very profesional and no longer seem to appreciate a nice Gringo.
In anycase, I have never even 5 years ago paid less than $150 at Habanos, Veneto, or Bodeguito. My friend once paid $100 for BJ only.
I always get TLN but, even if I didn't I have never been able or have I seen anyone pull a girl for less than $150.
Now the girls I am pulling are top notch. They are the upper 10 percent of the girls there. I certainly know the game and definately know how to haggle but how everyone is scoring these $100 girls is beyond me. Are they bottom barrel, Are you having to wade through 20 "no's" before finally getting a yes. I wonder.
About 3 years ago a chica I knew that was working down there told me the girls had formed a "pact" and after Jan 1st the new price was going to be $200. 00 Never lower.
I laughed so hard. She made it seem like they were a union.
Anyway that lasted about two days and they all went to $150 again.
Gentleman that really is the standard price. Most will start at $200 and then go down to $150 but never have I seen lessI've lived here for over 6 years and have taken out dozens of the very top tier talent from Veneto and Habanos and have never, ever paid over $100. $150 is in no way, shape or form the standard price. There are guys with great raps who can get a 9 or a 10 for $80 on a good day and there are tourists and guys who don't know any better or how to operate who pay $150-$200. I think it's possible to get quite a few of them down to $80 or $90 but I don't like to haggle and can always get them down to $100 from their asking price on the first try.
I think part of the issue may be the manner and body langauge of the negotiation, if you go in expecting to pay $150 and try to counter them when they say it, your response may be weak enough to the point where they know you are bluffing and that you'll cave-in in a second. Also, these girls all talk and know everything that is going on. If you get into the habit of paying $150, you become known as a $150 guy. Even if a girl would gladly go with you for $100 or even $80 on a slow night, she will hold out for $150 because she knows you paid another girl and now here ego is involved. They are competitive as hell. Likewise, if you become know as a $100 guy who knows the game, doesn't tip etc, they will likely not even mention a price and then just agree when you say $100.
Some things to keep in mind:
1. A doctor in Colombia makes about $1, 500 per month- at $150 a pop that is a days work for the girl compared to a month for a guy who spent 8 years in medical school.
2. You can currently get a pretty hot girl of the internet in NYC for $150.
3. Hotter girls than her are giving it away for $60 in her hometown.
You may have to bring your game up a bit as well as have them think you are better aware of different options. :
If they tell you $150, make a face like you just bit a month old apple and inform them that you can get a girl just as pretty for $86 at Golden Time.
Tell them you aren't a tourist and don't pay the rip-off price.
If it's slow and they've been sitting around for a bit, counter their price with yours and tell them "You can sit here and do nothing for an hour or come back with me, make a quick $XX and then be back right back and then you can charge a dopey gringo the $150"
In the unlikely event that they really won't budge off the $150, ask them if they'll come for 40 minutes for $100. You'll most likely only need 40 minutes and they will almost always lose track of time and stay the hour or more anyway.
All the above works a lot better if you can try not to appear desperate or put them up on a pedastal. More points if you can not appear uptight and joke and laugh a little with them etc.
If you are going to be paying the rip-off prices, for the sake of the other guys, please at least don't make it easy on them. Make them haggle and beg a little. If you committ to $150 to easy they will try for $200, if $200 is easy. On and on.
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