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Daddy Lows

07-19-05, 09:58

sorry for the rambling. i'm still savoring the memories, yeah?

tijuana 7-12-05 tuesday

i had to go near san diego for work tonight and i had this buddy who has been ragging on me for picking up hoes and in general, my cruddy streetmongering ways. :) heh heh. i can't blame him. he went to tj at least 4 times a month last year. so i called him up and told him of the fortunate set of circumstances i found myself in. he said, "just for you, dude. i'll be your wing man. don't want you to end up lying facedown in a gutter for your first trip to tj, ya know?" what are friends for?

10:30p
after meeting up with my wingman at at denny's in carson, we shot out to the 405 south and he told me that it'd take about 1.5 to 2 hours depending on traffic and speed. i was up in the high 70s and 80s most of the trip. nice. at a refill in san ysidro, gas was a costly $2.89 per premium gallon. sheesh!

wednesday 12:59a
he suggested we park on the us side and cross the border. i guess my legs needed the mild stretching walk. the path he took skipped the border patrol, actually, but they took a look at both of us and just waved us off. i guess the hawaiian print shirt i was wearing was a dead giveaway for "stupid american." the cabbies all were shouting and my bud picked the tallest guy and the other cabbies were like swearing in mexican. i might've heard "pinche puto gabachos" twice. my friend was chuckling about that one. (heh heh, btw, joe monger, i think the master silk one is the flyest name yet.)

cabbie: where you go?
wingman: ed, what do you want to do first? we ain't gonna walk the streets here. i gotta break that bad habit of yours.
me: :rolleyes: i defer to you, master of tj. (smirking)
wingman: smartass. we'll go to a strip club first.
me: what about chicago? i've heard a lot of good stuff about it.
wingman: yeah, it's alright but usually you hit those kind of places last. besides, it's like 50 girls and only 15 guys and they bother the hell outta you for drinks and stuff. better to go to a strip club first.
cabbie: what about purrrrrple rain? (rolling his r's)
wingman: you know, every time i go down here, they always want to take me to purple rain. i think it's because they get a commission or something.
ed: whatever. as long as the girls are hot and cheap.
cabbie: (stops to a club near that giant arch where the 'welcome to tijuana' banner is) here. good place, verrrry beautiful chicas, my friend. $5
ed: what name are you gonna use? just call me george, alright?
wingman: what, and i'm ringo? dude, you don't even like the beatles.
cabbie: $5
ed: ringo, pay the man, will ya? ;)

the club had two men outside and a woman with a clipboard. all three were very accomodating to the point of snuffing us. the woman wanted $8 apiece and my friend countered with "6 months ago, it was free?!" i suggested we split and then the woman smiled faintly and said, "for you, $5." ringo covered the $10 total entry. the place was cruddy, similar to the barbarry coast here in gardena, california. the girls were alright, mostly 25-35 y/o and nice bodies with so-so faces. but damn do they stick to you like glue as well as the damn waiters. you ask for singles and they want a tip. they ask you for drinks when you still have half a bottle or glass yet to finish. they continually bring girls to your table and ask you if you want to buy the "ladies" a drink for $10! my friend apologized to me saying, "it wasn't like this six months ago! dude, if i would've known..." i had a 2-song dance with a chica named jessica (pronounced yessica) for $20. since i wanted to break in the mood, i accepted though privately i gagged at that price! the lap dance section was a small closetspace with a recliner chair from the 80's. que rico. the girl was alright but wouldn't drop her panties and kept moving my fingers from unwanted places. she didn't let me suck on her nipples and kept placing my hands back on her b-cup boobs. and she asked me to tip this one lady whose only job (it appeared) was to accept payment for her 2 lap dances! i was pretty steamed after the 2 songs quickly ended. ringo was getting a back massage from a very nice-bodied girl named dina (rhymed with vagina). in actuality, dina was maybe 35 but had a smoking spinner body, had killer dance and pole moves, and a sexy personality. and ringo was getting some "extra" stuff done all for $5 a song right out in the open lounge. i was waiting for him to finish and i got hit up from the waiter and several girls for $5 in tips! then yessica swung by again and whispered in my ear, "$80 for everything sexo, ok?"

ed: ringo, dammit, you said it was club chicago where they bother the hell outta you.
wingman: (thanking dina) well, six months ago this place was cool. stop calling me that anyhow.
ed: ringo, i need to use the bathroom. (btw, if i go back to tj, i might want to look her up again)

(no tp, no soap, no napkins, no paper towel, wtf?!) i asked the bartender about it and he handed me 5 napkins and asked for a tip!!!! i had to go so i had no choice but to accept his offer. on the way out, the f*cking handlers and bouncers/waiters were like halfway blocking us and asking us stuff like "you see something you like? you want something else? speed? marijuana? what?"

we both booked it and walked over towards revolucion. no sws in sight and i commented to my bud about it. he said, "you'll find those kind of girls near club chicago on that street. revolucion doesn't really have hookers on the street. there's lots of strip clubs though." damn, he was right, and in front of every one was a guy hawking the place. there was thick fugly broad coming out of a cab shouting at us saying, "animal! animal!" damn, you guys ever see that one schwarzenegger movie called total recall? remember that scene when he first arrives to mars in that camouflage outfit of an oversized fugly woman? yeah, this nasty broad was like that and she was walking towards us shouting "animal!" turns out she was pointing to a strip club ahead of us! the guy in front was telling us to go in "for free. no cover. please, you enjoy." the free part and the fat slob broad behind us me both of us agree. btw, the sign outside said something to the effect of "carribean club/animale" or something like that.

inside, the carribean/animale was crummy as well, but the girls looked a bit better than the previous club. as we walked in, there was this hottie girl, face=7.5 body=9.5, with a black shirt on doing an increible dance show. totally swinging like 20 mph on the pole and that hanging ring. sweet. she looked under 25 and had the word "policia" in bold white letters on the back of her shirt. not 3 seconds after sitting down, a nice young girl sat on my lap and her handler scooted next to me.

fugly female handler: you like? you buy a drink for her?
ed: (sigh) alright. this one looks very cute.
stupid harrassing waiter: $4 for drinks. $10 for her drink, yeah?
ed: (grabbing her boob and ass) sigh. what's your name?
chica: jenny (pronounced yenny)
ed: (grinning) one drink for me and one for the lady. (sighing while contemplating the $1 tip each to the fugly handler and the stupid waiter) how old are you? you kinda look like jennifer lopez?
yenny: (smiling and grabbing my hand and placing it on her crotch) i 20.
ed: ringo! where the hell are you?
wingman: over here. let's wait here for awhile. (grinning because he was getting a lappy dance from some chica)

yenny: face=8.25, body=8.75(clothed and unclothed later during her stage dance), tits=full b1/2 cups, 5'4", 20 y/o sort of like j.lo in her "selena" days but a bit cuter. she also danced like crap and confirmed her claim that she was "new" to the scene. her dance set basically consisted of walking back and forth on the stage sans panties with the occasional touching of the pole and that hanging plastic ring attached to the ceiling. on the positive side, when her dance was over, she just walked offstage onto my table then onto my lap, allowing some assorted finagling on my side, if you know what i mean. i guess we were getting some chemistry but she scooted away from me towards some fellow waving some cash at her. then the wingman ringo told me to skedaddle because he was lit up for 3 drinks from his girl. later on he admitted, "why the hell did you get the pretty one?! my ***** whined the whole time even though she did a good lap dance. plus, she fell out of the ugly tree." i told him i was getting along fine with my girl even though she did leave me for a guy waving a jackson pleading for some private dances upstairs. if i go back to tj, i might want to look her up again.

it was getting late and ringo wanted to go get some grub.

wingman: ed, don't eat the stuff here. my friend ate out of one of these street vendors and told me his stomach wasn't right for a whole month. and stop calling me ringo, dammit.
ed: (smirking) how is it the people eating here aren't cramped over. they eat this stuff every day.
wingman: now you're starting to think. they're used to it. and remember to ask for bottled water, george.
ed: (smirking) now you're talking, frank.

frank wanted to go to the nearest denny's but was surprised when the cabbie brought us to sanborn's. the cabbie kept repeating "24 hours. same as denny's. 24 hours." whatever, the place was still nice and inside of some mall. it was around 1:55am and the head waitress/greeter was smoking. a true young 9+ face and body. frank was like "ed, not all girls down here are hookers. that's why they say stuff like 'stupid americans' down here." i was like "alright, frank. i was just admiring the 'landscape'." food was okay but i only had the soup of the day.

2:53am
the same cabbie swung by per wingman frank's instructions. he informed us that most bars and clubs close at 3am and that only during fridays, saturdays, and sundays do they stay open much later. we were going to go to back to the border and head back for home but frank was insistent on me scoring for my first trip to tj. he told the cabbie to try adelitas.

2:56am
in a nutshell, club adelitas was banging. there were like 40 or so girls in there and over 100 guys so both frank and i were not bothered much at all for drinks (for ourselves or any girls) or dances or $1 tips. and while i admit there were a few dogs working there, i spotted at least 10 good lookers. there was this young hottie wearing a pink bikini outfit that did a sizzling dance show around 3:20am. she had this booty bounce that was totally unbelievable: face=8.5 body=10. afterwards, that milos cara? girl did her dance floor routine. btw, when milos? came up to dance on the center floorstage, there was this guy all over her grinding and doing his best impersonation of a contestant on that tv show dance 360. i was kind of hoping that security would toss the guy out but for whatever reason, they didn't and also milos? was grinding back so i guess it was all cool. i also noticed this hot light-skinned girl who looked like paris hilton except for the big boob job.

me: hey, you ok? (she looked so sad and almost sullen like someone broke her heart... yeah, right)
her: no, i'm ok.

now, i figured that asking her openly like that would lead to some more conversation and perhaps her moving to the couch/seat next to me and my wingman. nothing doing. in fact, i noticed that all the smoking and semi-smoking girls were just laying around as if waiting to get hit on. since it was my first time in adelitas and tj, i asked my bud about this.

frank: i dunno. you'd think they want to make money or something.
me: well, it seems like the dogs are the ones trying to get drinks like that one earlier that was shoving her ugly ass in your face!
frank: tell me about it. don't matter though. the only girl i'd go for is that one in the blue outfit on stage.
me: come on now. that girl behind you is smoking. tell me she does not look like paris hilton?!
frank: (sneeking a longer look) yeah, maybe so. but i don't like that plucked eyebrow/drawn-in eyebrow look.
me: dude, she's thin, blond, has a pretty face, and a huge rack?!!! you're nuts. i don't understand why she didn't come over. (to the ph lookalike) you're very pretty. why so sad?
paris: thank you. i'm fine.
me:??????

@3:45a
that milos? girl finally gets offstage and passes us by and i shout something like "you are gorgeous" and put a $1 tip on her backside thong. she smiled and blew me a kiss then walked away. not 2 minutes later, she walks by again, and i did this eye wink/head nod combination and she sat down! up close, i could really see her age but damn, her face was still gorgeous. my wingman was like "dude, i didn't think you'd have the balls to call her out. heh heh."

me: what are you talking about? you said, and i quote, 'the only girl here i'd do is that one on the dance floor.' hell, since you've given me a personal tour of tj, i'll pay for her and you.
frank: ed, i don't think i can work it up. i've had too many beers already.
milos?: maybe if i show your friend... (stands up and does a booty dance on my friends face)
me: see? she's game, bro. how much?
milos?: $70
frank: (looking me slantily) a little steep. ed, it's late. you go at her.
me: hell, i think i will. what's your name? i'm ed and this is frank.
milos?: i'm milos? cara. nice to meet you. (then she starts doing this vee sign with her hand pointing at both of us then pointing at herself with one finger) yes? you like?
me: frank, is she asking what i think she's asking?
frank: ??? heh heh. no way.
me: milos? uhhh, we're friends but not that close.
milos?: you sure then? only you?

4:10am
milos? took me by hand next door to the motel and i cught a glimpse of frank approaching that paris lookalike. yeah, right. too many beers. :rolleyes: $11 for the room and i negotiated down to $60 for f/s because i'd already bought milos? a drink before going up.

milos?: follow me. i have two rules, ok? rule #1: first wash your hands. i'll wash mine, too.
me: should i pay you now?
milos?: later, don't worry. relax.

she stripped out of her nice blue bodysuit and proceed with a nice, albeit short ballwash. then, she put on the condom with her mouth and i was in bliss for 2 minutes.

me: (lifting her leg to try to swing her crotch closer to my face)
milos?: (poppin me out of her mouth) rule #2: no sucking on my pussy. (smiling and going back on my willy)

$60, 35 mmmminutes, cbj, mish, cowgirl (i had to tell her to slow down so i wouldn't bust and she did this nice grind while sucking my earlobes and kissing my neck), spoon, and doggy. i should've lasted longer but during doggy, she told me her ass was available because i was already thumbing it pretty deeply. i don't know why i let go but it didn't help when she started this hip back motion real hard and was starting to talk dirty in spanish. i think i heard her say "culo" or something. yeah, i guess she was cumming and dammit, i busted right then and there.

i ended up giving her a wicked back massage for another 20 minutes (just like i've learned from the pros at le sun, spa la paz, sue's, and all the amps i've frequented in my journeys). she actually appreciated it a lot. hell, i was happy she was happy. the only bad thing was i took 10 photos and only 2 came out decent because of the poor lighting in the room.

peace

Country John

07-19-05, 16:53

Daddy, no worries. You don't need to remember names, just faces. Sounds like you and your wingman had a good time. Did you notice the bars that were shut down? I counted 3 of them on Friday/Saturday. They stayed open past 3AM.

Great TR. It's all about having fun with some lusty Latinas.

Country John

Belgrath

07-20-05, 03:46

Country John

07-20-05, 19:04

Ignore the taxi drivers, they will all steer you to massage parlors and ripoff joints cause they get a commision of sorts to do so. They always lie and say Adelitas or the whole red zone is closed by the cops all the time. Between the Hong Kong Bar, Adelitas, Chicago Club, Miami Bar, Rio Verde and the street girls you find some sort of scene you'll like all within easy walking distance too each other.

A friend of mine had a similar problem. I told him to tell the taxi driver "OK, then $3.00 to take me to the Massage parlor in the Zona." When the guy drops you (expecting a spiff from the MP) say "thanks you very much" and walk to AB. Use the $2.00 to buy your first brewski.

Country John

One Wing Low

07-20-05, 22:47

Wooly1

07-21-05, 05:00

Hi Guys,

My friends and I are planning a trip to TJ this friday. We all know that we will be too drunk to drive anywhere after getting back to the states. What are our best options for hotels within walking distance of the border?(we dont care about luxury. We'll sleep anywhere as long as its safe.)

Any help will be very appreciated. Thanks.

Wooly

2Cool

07-21-05, 07:32

I know some of the members of this forum think Country John is a good guy.

Country John has been a controversial individual in the past (wsgforum).

Be wary of Country John

WulfgarX

07-21-05, 18:38

I know some of the members of this forum think Country John is a good guy.
Country John has been a controversial individual in the past (wsgforum).
Be wary of Country JohnCareful of Country John? Controversial? Isn't that what this board is all about? I usually skip the "controversial" stuff, and read the good imaginative stories that come up from the land down south.

Is it real? Who knows. Is it fun to read? Sure, like any other forum. Take everything with a grain of salt, and enjoy.

CJ's been around for ages. He's fun to read.

Da Wulf

PS. IM hitting TJ this weekend. WIll post findings.

Pingon

07-21-05, 18:42

Can anyone please tell me what happened to the WSGForum USA board?

Daddy Lows

07-21-05, 18:57

My friend Frank was paying the taxi for going all over the place and all the cabbies were asking for $5 each trip. I assumed that was the going rate. Dude, Frank ruined the cabbie market, huh? :( SOrry, if I knew the going rate I would've told him so. BUT, in the middle of the night, like we went out, I guess taking a cab is preferable to walking. Frank kept telling me of guys getting shanked or ripped off when walking around TJ. Especially if you look at the wrong guy in the eyes or something stupid like that. ANyhow, I'm glad TJ is 2 hours away otherwise, I'd go broke going there 24/7.

2cool,

If you're suggesting that Country John is controversial because he stays away from BGirls and prefers the street scene, then I'd agree. I'm guessing if you read the Los Angeles threads, you'd know I'm pretty much a cruddy streetmonger myself. :D

Peace

WulfgarX

07-21-05, 22:24

Can anyone please tell me what happened to the WSGForum USA board?Its at http://www.usasexguide.info/ its there.

Ocho Monger

07-21-05, 22:35

To each his own.

Everyone has their own type of plan when they go to the Zona.

You got the guys that want to get drunk and get some chicas.

Then you have the guys that are just there to do the deed.

As for my group, we are more of an in-n-out type. We know what we want, we get it and get done. Maybe a drink or 2, but the main goal is to get the chica. We prefer AB since its what we're comfortable with but others love the SG scene. Its all good.
If we want to drink, its not going to be in TJ. Too much to risk for just getting drunk. We can do that at home with no worries.

I may not post as much as CJ, but our group has had our share of visits as well in the ZONA. We're at about 30-50 visits each the last 3 years. Its been pretty similar since we've traveled to the Zone. $11 for room, $40-60 for the ladies, $3-6 on the cab(depending on time and cabbie).

Country John

07-21-05, 23:11

I know some of the members of this forum think Country John is a good guy.

Country John has been a controversial individual in the past (wsgforum).

Be wary of Country John

Well, other than reporting the post as rude, there's not much I can say except that someone who first chooses to call himself "2 cool," then on his 4th post decides to shoot at Country John is not "2 cool" in my book.

Anyone who knows me, knows better. If you don't want to know me then that is "cool 2."

It's a good idea to establish come credibility as a member before you attempt a flame war, unless you've already been banned and are now posting under another name. If you are already banned and posting under another name then that's not "2 cool" either, is it.

I am wondering what your motivation might be for attempting to tarnish my image. You might want to PM me with the answer to that one.

BTW: AlleyKat 83 this weekend (starts tonight Thursday). PM me early if you want to hook up with this controversial AlleyKat.

Country John

2Cool

07-22-05, 00:45

Country John,

You should be a rapper and i'm obviously not banned yet.

Country John, I think your posts are almost worthless.

Hi 2cool,

You've voiced your opinion, now drop it.

Thanks,

Jackson

Ocho Monger

07-22-05, 01:06

The Ocho group's plans tonight has been delayed. I would have wanted to meet up and chat Country John. Well have fun with 83.

One Wing Low

07-22-05, 07:00

Belgrath

07-22-05, 08:33

CJ has been around for years here and he's always been civil as long as you dont start posting stuff about him like GettingTang? used to, to start a fight. Besides this place is for posting about chicas of Tiahoochee and how to get the best bangs for the buck down there. Wanna argue? go 'discuss' with the wife or girlfriend about money or spicing up the sex life at home and see how enjoyable that is.

It's easy enough to go solo or with your own friends down there and never meet a fellow monger from the board in 50+ visits if you wish it. The Zona's crowded like a grown man's Disneyland, especially weekend nights.

Anyways 2cool just go down there, get the bad girl(s), do the wild pornstar sex and come back to the U.S.A. with empty pockets, trembling legs, and deleriously happy though youre not sure of either how many drinks or women you indulged in and post about who you remember you did and where!

USSmaximus

07-22-05, 17:49

Is much closer and easier for the cabbie to navigate than La Linea Sentri.

This area is right next to the yellow cab parking lot with lots of lights. You would be less likely to run into troubles with the banditos and the idling policia hanging out in the dark areas near the sentri line. You can walk right through the yellow cab parking to get to the overhead bridge.

Just tell the cabbies 'McDonald Linea.' The cabbies usually accept $3 as it is easier for them to get to.

OWL, I just want to make sure I understand your post. Is it easier for the cabbies to take you to McDonald Linea? What were you saying about the $3.00? Is that over and above the usual $5.00, and is it a tip to get them to take you to McDonald Linea?

That's my biggest worry going over is that walk from where the cabbie drops me off, then the walk back to the US border. Everything else seems ok to me.

One Wing Low

07-23-05, 07:26

It's $3.00 total from Zona Roja to the MCDonald's.

If you use Taxi Libre and insist they charge by the meter, the ride is only 18 pesos or about $1.60. $3.00 is almost double the legal rate and most cabbies are happy with it.

The Yellow cabbies ususally play tough balls but I always get those waiting in front of the McDonald (not the parking lot) to agree to go to Zona Roja for $3.00. If noone take the offer, I just walk further down the road and pick up a Taxi Libre near the circle with the statue. They are very happy with $3.00.

I am appealing to all mongers to be careful with how much you are paying for services, so you wont cause excessive inflation for the local mongers and create unnecessary friction.

OWL, I just want to make sure I understand your post. Is it easier for the cabbies to take you to McDonald Linea? What were you saying about the $3.00? Is that over and above the usual $5.00, and is it a tip to get them to take you to McDonald Linea?

That's my biggest worry going over is that walk from where the cabbie drops me off, then the walk back to the US border. Everything else seems ok to me.

Spartan94

07-23-05, 09:34

Blue Nose,

Ya, that sounds like her. Same work shift and clothes she wears. Been having terrible week but your news has given me hope in women. Hope she is there next weekend if she is still in TJ because she said she moved from cities. Again thanks for your information. If your in the zone next weekend. I'll buy you a beer. Thanks for the information cuz she treats me good as I do her.

Have fun and play safe.

Spartan

SpeedoPunk

07-23-05, 14:52

Try hotel Leyva right next to Chicago Club.

It's $19 a night + $3 for parking, basic rooms with towels and soap for shower in the morning. The rooms are cleaner than those used for tricks.

It's much quieter than the hotel next to Adelita. You may even catch a few winks of sleep between sessions.
Are you kidding? Leyva is one of the nosiest places on earth. Cars roll in all night making quite a racket... but not as annoying as the chicas squawking about this or that when they get off work.
Don't get me wrong... it's okay for a cheap ass place but they onloy give you one towel and it is barely enough to dry a saucer.
Better service at The Coahuila which is next to Adelita's or Cascadas.
Pay a few extra bucks and you have a lot nicer one at the Hotel Nelson. It is no means a grand hotel but still better than those dumps. I never had a problem getting a girl upstairs at the Nelson... the hold up is usually finding a girl willing to leave the club.

T Boutis

07-23-05, 19:52

Hey Guys,

Are the clubs open 24 hours on weekends. I was going to be in the area next weekend but the only time I can get away is going to be about 6-7am (Friday night/Sat. morning). Are the clubs open at this time and if not were will the action be.

Country John

07-23-05, 21:38

Country John,

You should be a rapper and i'm obviously not banned yet.

Country John, I think your posts are almost worthless.

I am a rapper.

Thanks for your opinion concerning my posts. I appreciate a veteran taking the time to read them and then comment. I'll see to it that yours is handled in the appropriate fashon consistent with policy. One flush should do it. I look forward to reading yours.

Country John

Rush 2112

07-25-05, 18:40

RTFF! (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=373347&postcount=759)

I'm sure he wishes he had.

MrK

07-26-05, 22:29

Chicago and Adelitas closes down around 6am and doesn't reopen until 10 or 11am. Most of the other clubs are the same. Chicago is empty until late at night but Adelitas fills up quickly by 1pm or so. There will be some street girls but it will be slim pickings.

Be careful walking around there at 6 or 7am in the morning.

Country John

08-02-05, 06:48

Be careful walking around there at 6 or 7am in the morning.

That's when the druggies and the drunks who passed out early the night before wake up from their slumber on the street or in Snake Alley. They're hungry, they have no money, they're thirsty etc. None are gonna want to shine your shoes. They are going to ask for money so don't flip them off to hard or you could have a problem.

The Zona is no place for an early morning confrontation.

The girls on the other hand are a different story. Most are out early looking for you and a few might be an hour away from ending an all nighter watching the sun come up. The early risers might be a better session if they are clean regulars. But choose wisely in any case.

Don't be drunk and stoopid or you'll make a great targetand the Zona is no place for you, so get back to the room or to the Border if you're done with the trip. No lollygagging around.

If someone wants you to buy a taco or take a taxi and you don't want to say "No thank you." You know the rest.

Country John

One Wing Low

08-02-05, 19:40

Hi Country John,

If this is correct, TJ's El Zona Roja are full of banditos in the AM.

I was at the malecon in Ensenada at 6AM for a fishing trip, ran into a drunk who grabbed hold of me, babbling incoherently, trying to get something out of me. I could not shake him off, having to call for policia help. BTW traffic cops in Ensenada are very alert and took no bribes. Be very careful when driving down there.

In other parts of Mexico, early AM is a delight, full of honest, genuine, repestful, hard-working people.

Is TJ's El Zona Roja the pit of Mexico?

I understand there have been dozens of kidnaps and murders of gringos in Neuvo Laredo. The US counsulate in NL is closed for now. Is this going to spread to TJ soon?

That's when the druggies and the drunks who passed out early the night before wake up from their slumber on the street or in Snake Alley. They're hungry, they have no money, they're thirsty etc. None are gonna want to shine your shoes. They are going to ask for money so don't flip them off to hard or you could have a problem.

If someone wants you to buy a taco or take a taxi and you don't want to say "No thank you." You know the rest.

Country John

Lascivious

08-02-05, 21:52

I don't understand the logic of getting dropped off on the Mc D's side. After you cross the bridge you end up in the same spot as if you were dropped on the sentri side with the same polica lurking about. I don't get it. Am I doing something wrong?

Ho Down Man

08-03-05, 02:14

Hey Guys and Experienced Members,

Is anyone going down to TJ this weekend? I am game if anyone would like to hook up. This would be my first trip so any help would be greatly appreciated. I will buy the first of many rounds I am sure.

LEt me know,

Ho Down Man

Rabo Verde

08-03-05, 09:30

Country John

08-03-05, 19:29

Every night this week, there have been two crooked cops doing the shakedown in the shadowy area at the Sentri drop-off point. They are stopping solo Gringos and doing a complete search, shakedown if they find a Viagra or pocketknife, etc. When you cross over the bridge from McDonalds, you end up at a well-lit point closer to the border, generally without trouble.

As long as you look like Chuponalgas. If you look normal you are in trouble.

Hey Chupo, what about our Rio trip? Let's crash at Jackson's place!

The zona is a landing zona for deportees from the USA and other low lifes. Most of the deportees (if not all) are ex-cons are are very bad people, while others are simply victims of unfortunate circumstances leading to deportation. Nevertheless they are in the Zona shining shoes, looking for hand-outs or other "opportunities." Survival is the name of the game. The Zona is a jungle. NEVER let your guard down, NEVER be stoopid.

Country John

RoadGlide

08-04-05, 02:26

I don't know how long this link will be good for but it looks like the rumor is true.

Sex in the MP's is now legal. It's not like you had to look over your shoulder when banging out a piece in a TJ. MP like you do North of the border, before it was legalized

But it's nice to know that your not breaking any laws and that the girls will get some sort of testing done.

http://www.10news.com/news/4806743/detail.html

Just think what it could be like if one of these owners makes a trip down to Brazil and decide's that he wants to imitate a Terma.

RG.

Coors Lover

08-04-05, 11:07

I have taken a cab back from Adelitas for $5.00 all the way to the border line before, and I believe it was a Yellow cab. I had to specify all the way to US entry and not McDonalds. I too am afraid of that last walk from there to bridge. I was once mugged on Revolution Blvd around midnight right in the middle of the street. All mongers be very careful, the dangers of this area are underreported on this board by the regulars who speak spanish and know their way around.

One Wing Low

08-05-05, 02:31

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One Wing Low

08-05-05, 02:33

Mexico just opened a new foot bridge, which crosses from the Yellow Cab parking all the way South to the dark area where cabbies drop off passengers going to La Linea Sentri. The old foot bridge, which is now closed, used to end North, 1/2 mile closer to the border.

So both cab passengers and pedestrians heading back to the US have to go through the dark area underneath the new foot bridge.

If it is true policia are shaking down gringos in this area, then we are all screwed! Perhaps you can get off the cabs and walk in the middle of the brightly lit car-pool lane to avoid the policias and banditos.

I don't understand the logic of getting dropped off on the Mc D's side. After you cross the bridge you end up in the same spot as if you were dropped on the sentri side with the same polica lurking about. I don't get it. Am I doing something wrong?

Heyzeus

08-05-05, 21:24

Mexico just opened a new foot bridge, which crosses from the Yellow Cab parking all the way South to the dark area where cabbies drop off passengers going to La Linea Sentri. The old foot bridge, which is now closed, used to end North, 1/2 mile closer to the border.

So both cab passengers and pedestrians heading back to the US have to go through the dark area underneath the new foot bridge.

If it is true there are policia shaking down gringos in this area, then we are all screwed! Perhaps you can get off the cabs and walk in the middle of the brightly lit car-pool lane to avoid the policias and banditos.The new bridge does not end 1/2 mile farther south than the old crossing. I would say the distance to the old crosswalk is less than 200 ft. Also with the new crossing you still avoid the cops since the last ramp down before you're on the sidewalk goes away from where the cops are stationed.

Rabo Verde

08-07-05, 03:42

Met a heeshee on the corner, named Country John.
Great anal, followed by BBBJCIM. HIghly recommended, but hold on to his ears and TURN OUT THE LIGHTS, ROFL!!!

face: -10
bod: 10
attitude: 10
service: 10
price: $20 + $5 (hroom), and I bought him a beer.

Smut Villain

08-07-05, 05:54

Rabo Verde

08-07-05, 08:02

Just kidding, I DIDN'T buy him the beer!

Belgrath

08-07-05, 21:18

Bod a 10? I dunno, I'm more of a breast man myself. CJ couldnt be a more then a A-cup. I need something more (in the chest area) to have fun with thats not all silicon too! This TJ honey is about an 8 so CJ must be pretty amazing.

Country John

08-07-05, 22:45

Just kidding, I DIDN'T buy him the beer!

Truth is he couldn't find his dick with both hands! He's just angry because I wouldn't hook him up with Jessica.

Country John

Hardbarg

08-08-05, 04:31

Heyzeus

08-08-05, 10:31

It's getting harder and harder to find an honest Libre taxi. They're starting to act just like the Yellows. Some claim the meter is broken, some just refuse to start it. Every destination is $5. My last trip I had to get in and out of 3 cabs before I got one who would turn on the meter.

At this rate I'd rather bargain with a Yellow. At least they're honest extortionists.Maybe I've been lucky lately but most of the TL's that I've used had working meters. From past experience I make it a point to always ask the driver if his meter is working before I even get into the cab.

The only exception that I have encountered in the last few months were the TL's near the border late at night. The drivers there band together, all quoting a flat rate of 30 - 50 pesos to the ZN depending on how stupid or desperate they think you are. Normally it's about 20 pesos to the ZN from the border. I was forced to pay their flat rate a few months ago because it was 2am on a Tuesday morning and I wasn't going to walk over the pedestrian bridge at that hour. As I was exiting the cab I had a few choice words for the driver in spanish to make it clear to him how I felt about being ripped off.

If they are always gouging you then the next time if happens I would write down the cab and TL telephone numbers which are on the back of the cab and then tell the driver that you will report him to the company if he doesn't turn on the meter. If he still refuses then report the SOB to the company. I'm not sure if they will do anything but it doesn't hurt to try. The next time they quote me flat rates at the the border or refuse to turn on the meter that's what I am going to do.

RedDog

08-09-05, 04:38

Reddog makes it to Tijuana

Well I finally made some experiences across the old line in Mexico. First I have to say I guess for southern Californians this is like heaven on earth. But for the rest or you people, who may or may not, read my posts on the European portion of this and other forums this is a nightmare for the hobby. Now to be fair I will say I only scratched the surface of what is here and even with that I did have some good sessions. So you can too. I just think that the language barrier here is much more of a problem than in other places I have been because of the range of performance.

Here is my take on the scene. If you are going for a stag party or just a party it could be great lots of booze and lots of girls from knockout to gross out. If you are going as a regular then it could be ok, but I think that in most cases you need to speak Spanish to really crack into the regular category. My main problem with TJ is that the level of service is ranging as much as the looks of the girls in the zona {(hey that was not even a girl)or was it UUUUEEEWWW}. There are a lot of clubs I started with the basics, I headed to Adelitas and Chicago Club. What is written about them is more or less correct. I would say that the girls here are the more HC workers in the zona (outside of some street girls) So I would say that the girls in AB and CC are something like the RLD in A’dam. Some hot some not but all business.

Ok so I went back to try again. Tried an Internet escort. Service was better looks where OK but she was lets say well used. After that I tried tropical.

Tropical and LC these bars seem to have more young and lest say relatively fresh girls. Problem even less English that at the other bars.

My recommendation is hit AB some great looking girls. Service is very much Hit and Miss and YMMV. I think Nikta’s dance show is wortha look she is my fav girl there for looks and she speaks good English did not session with her but it is on my list of things to do had a nice chat though but I can tell and from what I read she would be only a optic fck.

Then I would say HK can but fun but if you are alone it can be a hassle fighting off all the lap dance requests and upsells.

Then I would go to tropical and look for a fun girl if you don’t speak Spanish then it may be hard to talk but I think you have a better chance of getting good service form a girl in that bar that cant understand you then you will from a AB the speaks perfect. LC is maybe even more Mexican then Tropical. So hard with the language here I did not session here but it is also on my list.

More info as it becomes available

reddog

Hardbarg

08-10-05, 11:51

Heyzeus:

You have been lucky. Here is a posting from another web site yestersday. One of many similar.

"I am almost now to the point of just avoiding Taxi Libre's completely, especially if picked up in a tourist area. An alarming percentage of them are now rip off artists. You have to argue with them to be treated fairly. The meter will be set at 40 or 50 pesos or they will leave it off entirely, etc., etc. I recently took one to La Mansion and got into a dispute with the driver because he insisted when we got there that there was something like a hotel surcharge, that they got extra for taking people to hotels. In reality, it was the all too frequent "fleece the gringo" surcharge. The driver was just an unbelievable whiner who kept whining even after I overpayed him, although not as much as he wanted.

In my experience, it is becoming rare when you can get into a Taxi Libre, have the meter set properly and get a proper metered ride without engaging in verbal fisticuffs. Now, reports that some meters are rigged. It's become a huge hassle far too often to use Taxi Libre."

WhiteGuyNY

08-10-05, 20:16

El Juez

08-11-05, 02:18

Country John

08-11-05, 05:08

I am planning to go to TJ next week. I have not been there since 2 1/2 years ago. Can any one tell me some good strip clubs before I go to CC or AB. I went to Lord Black and Peanuts & Beer before and had a good time in both places. Any info would be helpful.

Go directly to AB. Squeeze some girls, then go to CC where it will be a bit slower but fun. Then go to Hong Kong. That ought to keep you off the street for a while.

Forget about Obsessions, Lord Black, and all the clubs on Revolution. Go directly to Adelitas Bar.

Country John

WhiteGuyNY

08-11-05, 14:51

Whiteguyny,

Peanuts and Beer is still my favorite but I also like Madonna's. I believe it's on 4th St. just west of Revolucion. Halfway down the street on the south side. Nice looking girls, high mileage but no sex. I've heard some reports that that policy has changed but just want to let you know if you are looking for FS action Madonna's may not have it.

For full service, AB and CC are better and more economical anyway. Good luck and have fun.

I heard that Madonna is good again. I went there about 4 years ago, had a great time but the other times that I went was OK. The girls in Lord Black were hot but not much mileage for your money. Did have a great time, drinking beer and have a few dances at Peanuts, they usually have some decent talent there.

WhiteGuyNY

08-11-05, 15:05

Go directly to AB. Squeeze some girls, then go to CC where it will be a bit slower but fun. Then go to Hong Kong. That ought to keep you off the street for a while.

Forget about Obsessions, Lord Black, and all the clubs on Revolution. Go directly to Adelitas Bar.

Country John

How is the talent at Hong Kong? I know that AB usually has the best looking girls but not always the best girls in terms of service.

Country John

08-11-05, 22:27

How is the talent at Hong Kong? I know that AB usually has the best looking girls but not always the best girls in terms of service.

The Zona is the land of YMMV. My fav might not work as hard for you as she does for me so it's up to you to get her moist in the bar before you go up if possible. Quality of service in Adelitas is a grab bag. You get what you get until you make a fav.

Hong Kong is hit or miss. Not all of the girls will go, all of the girls will try to fichafuck you however- it's their job. You might find a girl (a nice looking one too) who will go, you might not. How much are you willing to spend to find out?

At Adelitas, you'll probably get hit to go up by a girl before the masero gets to you, especially on a weekend. Adelitas is all business. Go there, get laid then do your high stepping while you re-charge.

For the girls, the money is in the hroom, not in the bar. They have to make bank for the club ($70.00) or they pay so they want to go up -often.

You got all night to mess around. Get the 1pop out of the way with a latina princess then go for some beer and recharge at Chicago Club or Tropical where the pressure is less.

One thing is for sure though: you will get better service from almost any of these girls then you'll get from a gringa.

Country John

Surfer

08-11-05, 22:56

Ho Down Man

08-12-05, 00:52

WhiteGuyNY

08-12-05, 01:41

You pay HEAPS for the facility. Yes the chicas may be a bit cuter on average, but Adelita's is MUCH more fun/lively, especially late at night when the shows are happening. Madonna's is OK (print out the internet coupon for free entry though!) . No in and out allowed though, so print SEVERAL copies!

What time do they have shows at AB? The times that I have been there, only one girl was dancing. I enjoyed the girls at Lord Black because in my option they were hot. Where can you get the coupon for Madonna's? I will post my time in TJ when I get back to NY. Thanks for your help.

WhiteGuyNY

08-12-05, 01:48

Hong Kong is hit or miss. Not all of the girls will go, all of the girls will try to fichafuck you however- it's their job. You might find a girl (a nice looking one too) who will go, you might not. How much are you willing to spend to find out?

At Adelitas, you'll probably get hit to go up by a girl before the masero gets to you, especially on a weekend. Adelitas is all business. Go there, get laid then do your high stepping while you re-charge.

You got all night to mess around. Get the 1pop out of the way with a latina princess then go for some beer and recharge at Chicago Club or Tropical where the pressure is less.

Country John

Thank you for your help, will post my time when I get back. One thing, what does Masero mean? And you mentioned that not all the girls will go, does that mean they will not go upstairs with customers? Is it only a strip club?

I have been to a strip club during the day a few years back and it was not busy, so a girl asked if I wanted to fuck, I said yes and ending up fucking her in a office on the roof of the club, people across the street could see us and I did not care. Since the office was dirty I just fucked the shit out of her and got my money's worth out of her. She try to hustle me, but I was not down with it. Take my money and take my cock up there **** and be quite.

El Juez

08-12-05, 04:24

Thank you for your help, will post my time when I get back. One thing, what does Masero mean? And you mentioned that not all the girls will go, does that mean they will not go upstairs with customers? Is it only a strip club?
The masero is the guy who brings you your drink. They can range from helpful and friendly as hell to annoying assholes.

What Country John was saying is that while there are some clubs like Adelita and Chicago Club where every girl in it is a hooker, there are other places where only some of them are, none of them are or have girls that will go up just with guys they like. Hong Kong is like that. You just have to feel them out, so to speak.

Country John

08-12-05, 14:45

Hey guys,

Is a passport required now going to TJ? I heard awhile back that it was going to be required. I am heading down to TJ tonight and again this weekend. Anyone going and want to meet uP?

Ho Man

Don't need the passport this weekend. I believe it starts in 2006. If you have one, bring it because you'll spend less time talking to the Border Patrol.

I'll be in the Zona Saturday Night and all day Sunday. PM your digits and we'll see if we can hook up!

Country John

Badfish

08-12-05, 23:27

Does anyone know Stacey from Lindo? Blonde about 5' 6 thin avg breasts.

Thumperr

08-13-05, 06:28

I get to TJ from NYC about 3-4 times a year. I'm late 40's, do not pass for younger. Was down on Sunday & Monday this past weekend.

I drive down, and parked for $4 at the hotel to the left of McDonalds & the other burger joint. I walk over from there. I do change to pesos, almost everything is quoted in dollars, and you can pay 1:10 ratio, even though when you convert the dollars you get a little more. (can vary from 10.5 to 11 and change). So there is your first discount.

Right now, with all the construction at the entrance to TJ, you can only walk straight out to where the taxis are. Many recall turning right and crossing over to the plaza directly. Right now it is closed for construction. As soon as you go throught the turnstile, you will be asked just under 73 times if you want a taxi. Most of these are the yellow cabs you see ,and you can get hit up for 6 to 7 dollars or more for the average $3 ride. If you go through the gate, turn right. Walk to the street (about 200 yards), cross over and turn left. Walk another 300 yards until you see the people waiting on line for the Taxi Libres (name of company on the side of these smaller white cabs). To get to the Red Zone, on the meter can run to about 34 pesos with tip. If they say the place you want is closed, get out. (Unlees it's election day). Note: cabs will not generally make change, never with dollars. I usually give the guy a fifty peso note and say: diez peso, por favor. In other words - take 40 gimme 10 back.

There has been alot of talk about being hassled by the local police, the federales or any other police group working the area. I have never had any problems. Same with the return trip to the border. The cab drops you off about 500 yards from the border, you walk in a straight line alongside hundreds of cars waiting to cross back. I did see a guy get hassled on Monday night, but he was so drunk I was surprised he could stand.

As to Adelitas, where I do tend to favor. Sunday night was as packed as any Friday or Saturday night. It was incredible! And continued this way well until 2AM when I left. Alot of regulars that night, but alot missing. They go home for Sunday and get back in time for Monday action I'm told. So if youre looking for something new, that is the night.

Monday was considerably slower, but still had a nice crowd and a great selection. For those of you who were there Sunday night, you got to see one of the mongers bring his girlfriend, who did a strip dance with the regular Adelitas dancer. I thought she was gonna go down on her right on the stage. Maybe a regular who was there can add to this.

Anyway, TJ continues to be TJ, and it was as good a time as I had in May, and hope to have in October.

Oh, did I mention I fucked my brains out. But that part, you're on your own.

HeelzInTheAir

08-13-05, 18:03

I lost the link, and have tried to search the web but only can find this forum.

Pablo

08-13-05, 20:25

Actually, with the construction at the border things have changed again and as of Thursday you can only go right towards the farmacias instead of into the Yellow cab lot. I'm sure it'll change again as they finish up the plaza. It makes for a big mess on the farmacia street with all the taxis trying to get a fare. I've been using the Taxi Libres lately too but the last half dozen I've been in would not use their meters, though they all seem willing to do a $3 fare.

It seems to me that there's more Taxi Libres and more taxis in general around these days. More supply and at best constant demand seems to make it easier to save at least a buck on fares. I was able to get $3 fares 5 of 6 times just by asking and on my return last night got a $4 fare.

btw, I never tip the taxi drivers and a tip (propina) doesn't seem expected, though a few guys ask for them. They're making a lot anyway by Mexico standards. It's not that I'm a cheap bastard, I don't think that the locals ever tip them, just gringos.

Pablo

08-13-05, 20:38

I usually pass through HK on my trip down the alley and Thursday night me and my buddy were treated to a killer 2-girl show. We got there just as they brought out the shaving cream and the girls started coating themselves with it, tons of it. They then started slithering around the dance floor and each other and the thin one was really into it. She had her mouth on and tongue in the other girl's pussy a lot of the time really going at it. No way this was just an act, she was loving it.

Pretty soon the whole main floor and the runway were coated in shaving cream and the girls would slither down and get tips. For a buck these guys were sticking their fingers in the slightly chunkiers girl's pussy while getting Polaroids taken from the camera guy. What a souvenir, a nice picture of you with two fingers buried two knuckles deep!

The show lasted a while, maybe 30 minutes of fun. The girls then went into the shower next to the stage and continued feeling each other up.

After the crew mopped up the stage, this tall hot, hard bodied (but flat chested) babe in leather with a leather mask and two whips takes the stage and puts on a really hot dance. She was tall and didn't look Mexican though it's hard to tell with the leather mask. This was as good as any strip show I've ever seen in the US, she was really athletic and hot.

I'm not an HK regular by any means so maybe these shows are typical but in my dozens of times walking through I've never seen anything this good. I think I'll be stopping by for a beer and a show more often.

BTW, as was mentioned in here by I think Belgrath, there were a bunch of hotties in there, including a few American girls who I'm pretty sure were working. I know the VIP room upstairs comes into play here, but can someone post what all the options and costs are for the girls? In the old days when I hug out down there a lot they used to use the hotel next door and prices were generally a little higher than AB & CC, maybe 60-100 when AB and CC were 40-60.

WhiteGuyNY

08-14-05, 04:17

Has anyone tried Dulce at hong kong? She isn't the prettiest girl there, but better than average. Total GFE!! FS/DATY/DFK for $40-50 upstairs hotel.

Dirk Diggler

I have been looking for a map that I used to have with all the places to visit while in TJ, can't find it. Where is Hong Kong club located and where can I find the coupon for Madonna's?

I know where AB and CC are.

JeanLuc

08-15-05, 06:25

Don't need the passport this weekend. I believe it starts in 2006. If you have one, bring it because you'll spend less time talking to the Border Patrol.

I'll be in the Zona Saturday Night and all day Sunday. PM your digits and we'll see if we can hook up!

Country JohnPassport requirement starts in 2007 (Jan 1, 2007).

Country John

08-16-05, 17:23

Passport requirement starts in 2007 (Jan 1, 2007).

Thanks for the clarification.

I've been experimenting and I find that when I show my drivers license, It takes longer to get through than if I show a passport. Anyone else have a similar experience?

Interesting weekend in the Zona this weekend. Lots to do and very busy. Looked at a few apartments. Found one I could live in for about $250. a month. Had one of the girls show me around after a day of frolicking up on revolution ; we wanted to get away from the Zona and act like a couple of tourists (she is very white). She hung off me like my daughter, very nice. Had luch at Caesars (home of the Caesar Salad) but no show in the back.

Then back tot he Zona with the usual fare and edges. AlleyKat 99 coming this week. Then AlleyKat 100. A milestone.

Country John

Sonidos

08-16-05, 18:52

Based on my personal and a few friends experiences, I believe it is quicker using a passport as opposed to driver's license. I am a naturalized citizen and with just my driver's license, they keep me a few minutes and ask all kinds of questions as soon as they hear my accent. For the past few years, I have been using just my passport and they rarely look at it. Sometimes, they will swipe it but most of the time they ask me what I am bringing back and my standard response is: "I will tell you after I see my doctor." Most of the agents just laugh while a few don't get it.

Surfer

08-16-05, 20:08

HongKong is in the alley. Madonna's coupon on their website (google it).

I would never bring a passport to TJ and I am VERY confident the rule will NOT be implemwemnted on 1/1/07 (WAY too much opposition from business in TJ that will go bankrupt if the rule is implemented.) Less than 5% of Americans have a passport (what a disgrace! But then again, IMHO it is better that the ugly Americans stay home!); how many of the kids going over on weekend nights the lifeblood of TJ tourist economy) have passports? 1 in a 1000?

I look Anglo, so maybe it is different for people of color, but using a DL has never created even a split second's delay for me. Perhaps bring a fotocopy of your passport if you are worried.

JeanLuc

08-17-05, 03:10

I would never bring a passport to TJ and I am VERY confident the rule will NOT be implemwemnted on 1/1/07 (WAY too much opposition from business in TJ that will go bankrupt if the rule is implemented.)What makes you think that businesses in TJ can and will influence US decision on passport requirement?

JeanLuc

08-17-05, 07:54

how many of the kids going over on weekend nights the lifeblood of TJ tourist economy) have passports? 1 in a 1000?Kids / teenagers / young adults are lifeblood of TJ tourist economy? I don't think so. Yes, they drop a lot of dollars in the bars, but what about shopping and buying anything of value, or eating at fine restaurants? They will adapt and get passports, especially those in the 18 to 21 range, so they can go drink in TJ, Rosarito, and Ensenada. Passport is good for 10 years, an investment of $100 for a passport amounts to only $10 a year.

Plenty of adult tourists that visit TJ, and probably spend a lot more money than the 'kids'.

Country John

08-17-05, 16:40

Plenty of adult tourists that visit TJ, and probably spend a lot more money than the 'kids'.

I agree. It would take a lot more than a passport to stop this kid from visiting. Most Americans do nothing until they are forced to then complain like hell about it.

Passports are cool. They're also easy to get. I think the idea is to have better control over the flow across the border. Something Californias have been screaming for over the past several years. What's all the fuss about?

Country John

Blue Nose

08-18-05, 01:36

Pablo - Yep, sounds like you hit HK just in time for the shaving cream show. This happens around 7 - 7:30pm (at least thursday through Saturday) and it is always wild. I have seen it about a dozen times and never tire of it.

HK is a great club because of its versatility. If you want a strip club, then you've got a nice low hassle place where there are very few rules like here in the US. If you want a private dance then you can get one of those (with lots of extras - if you don't believe me, get a dance with Azul and she will make a believer out of you). If you want to go upstairs you can grab a girl and ask (some do some don't, but there's no harm in asking) and if you want to hang out and drink then that's cool also. I have found that the girls in HK who do go upstairs tend to start the negotiations higher than AB or CC girls but will generally settle for $50 + hotel. Any more than that and it isn't worth it. Just walk away and either go to a SG or over to AB.

Dirk Diggler - can you describe Dulce in a little more detail? I'd like to try her out.

Country John - $250 - $300 a month sounds about right from what I understand in talking to the local girls. Are you moving to TJ? Can I be your roomate?

Blue Nose

Surfer

08-19-05, 02:03

Requiring machine scannable passports (as US law is set to require) will SLOW the processesing of people to a trickle even after scanners are installed (which will take time & money).

Check out the demographics of those crossing the border. In a word, young.
Also, all the Mexicans with border cards (or green cards for that matter) will have to purchase machine scannable passports-how many DECADES would that take in Mexico?

I am not saying I oppose the idea (I've had several passports over the last 20 years) but I am VERY skeptical it will be implemented that soon (if ever). If Al Qaeda commitas an attack with attackers who crossed over from Mexico, THEN we'd move aggressively. NOT before though.

Country John

08-19-05, 06:35

Country John - $250 - $300 a month sounds about right from what I understand in talking to the local girls. Are you moving to TJ? Can I be your roomate?

Blue Nose

We'd make a great team. Met a girly (at Rio Verde of all places) Wednesday night on AlleyKat 99 who wants me to move in with her as her novio - a really sweet thing from Acapulco. I am tempted, very tempted; but my wing man is advising against it. I have an off property date set up for Saturday, will TLN with her. (Smiles quietly to self.) Esmarelda de AB and Helena de CC will not marry until the divorce is final so I'm looking at this deal.

As soon as I can tank my company I'm heading South. Guadalajara or Puebla will get serious consideration before TJ but I'm liking the idea of being close to the border and running the businesses in GDL and Puebla from there. Canada sucked, USA blows so Mexico is the next stop for this AlleyKat.

We have to hook up at Miami one of these days - especially when Salma gets back. I found out she's still boinking her husband, hmmmmm. She says he is a paying customer.

Country John

FireWalker

08-20-05, 19:45

I have never had a wait using DL. Never.

Hizark21

08-22-05, 05:34

Tourist magnet cleans up brothels
(http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050818/od_nm/mexico_brothels_dc )

Will be interesting to see what happens the cops start using the laws as a means to start extorting bribes. In any case keep your eyes and ears open. Please report any news about this subject.
"Prostitution is illegal in Mexico but brothels are often left alone by law enforcement agents.

Under the regulation, some 7,000 male and female sex workers in Tijuana, a city of 1.2 million people, will carry health cards with a computer chip to show they have passed monthly health checks.

The Tijuana bylaw is due to come into force in the coming days, perhaps as early as Friday, and a team of 30 inspectors already has begun visits to brothels, which are often thinly disguised as massage parlors.

The bylaw is the first serious attempt to regulate the sex trade in the city, which has served as a playground of bars, brothels and racetracks for visitors from California since the U.S. prohibition era in the 1920s."

OCTraveler

08-23-05, 04:52

Hey is anybody familar with a club(?) brothel(?) called "El Fracaso Articulo 123"? Ran across this name in another site....

Matiz

08-23-05, 21:47

OC traveler,

El Fracaso is a small bar on the north side of Articulo 123 between Revolucion and Constitucion, directly across from Rio Verde. It is a typical "locals" hangout, very Mexican, Norteno music, lots of boozing and puking, and the talent is inconsistent from night to night. It's primarily a "ficha" bar where girls dance for a buck a song. As I recall, ladies' drinks are reasonable at around $4-5. Some of the ladies are also hookers, but, as one chica there explained to me, if you're unsure, just ask if they go to the hotel. They won't be offended.

If you don't speak at least some Spanish, you'll have a hard time. Most of the guys are there to get seriously drunk and dance a little and try to feel up their dance partners without having to cough up the dough for a room. Few of them actually plan on taking a lady to the hotel. The women themselves vary widely in age and looks.

I used to go there when a street hooker I knew from the alley worked there in the evenings. It was a chance to ply her with drinks and dance before boffing her, something unusual with SGs. I have rarely seen a lady in there that I'd be interested in, and I have a fairly flexible and pragmatic standard of beauty.

There are some guys posting on various boards that are totally into the "small ficha bar" experience. I wouldn't for a moment try to dissuade you from that. Go and see if it's your cup of tea. It's a distinct and pretty intense environment, so you should be able to figure out in short order whether you like it or not. For me, EF is an interesting but usually unproductive change of pace every now and then. On the plus side, it does make me really, really appreciate Adelita's and CC.

Matiz

Country John

08-24-05, 00:33

Well, it's been a good run. Lots of stuff happened, I got to enjoy a lot of lusty Latinas and I thank them all for taking my money. Some took more than others of course and a few clipped me along the way.

I find myself having to step back from the Zona right now. More and more people recognize me, the street guys are now looking at there $1.00 payoff and are trying to bump it up to $5. Even my wing man gets the "Where is he?" from certain people in the bars these days so it's time to cool it.

I had a few tense moments also, like the night I got some bad dope and passed out on the railing of the 3rd floor at Leyva. Jessica was there to pull me into the apartment. She stayed until I regained and until I was ok. Any other walker would have "walked" on that one. She hung in there.

The start of the AlleyKat adventures is not the start of my hobby. I've had pussy all over the country including Guam and Taiwan. Never been to SA or the SP. Might do it.

My wife left a few months back and I've had some serious re-organizing to do. It's a major change. I also had my wallet and cel phone ripped by a chica 3 weeks or so ago so replaceing all that shit has been a major action.

I also met a girl.

On AlleyKat 99, I arrived in the Zona about 11PM on a Wednesday night, felt like there was nothing interesting out so I went to Rio Verde to have a beer and see my big fat masero "Maria." Maria loves me because I always look for her at Rio Verde and always buy from her. I also roll up my propina and tuck it neatly under her waistband, giving her fat tummy a rub at the same time.

That night she took my hand and said "Soombawdy Espcial for ju." and she led me to a table that had a chica. I sat across from her, drinking my beer, not paying attention to her and looking around the place for amigos or anybody I might know.

I stole a look at her through the corner of my eye and of course she caught me. What I got when I eyelocked with her was a big smile. I said to myself "Make sure your wallet is still there."

Drinks for the girls at Rio Verde are $6. so I figgered I'd buy her one because she was behaving herself and not bugging the shit out of me. I motioned to Maria to bring a drink for the girl. Maria comes to me and says "She no go wit ju, she drinks only." Well, all I wanted to do was buy her a fucking drink so go get it.

Maria brings the drink and shakes her head when she looks at me because I've been asking her who goes or not for several months now. Maria keeps telling me that she'll go but I'm not into fat checks. Maria puts the drink down for the girl and writes the ficha ticket like a traffic ticket. The girl, just realizing I bought her a drink looks at me and blushes as she says "Gracias Senior." Maria says "She no speakadaengis, she new to the bar."

At that point all kinds of strange things started going through my alleged mind. But for now, I'd scope the place. She was cool, thanked me for the beer and seemed to go on about her business.

I noticed that she was perhaps a bit more civillian than most of the girls in the place so I looked closer. Her hair was not fucked up with coloring shit and the suff you see nowadays but was very thick, and healthy.

Her eyes were clear (but tired). Her skin is very dark (not popular from what I hear) and she was not active at all, even with a cashed up gringo sitting across from her making the BIG EYES.

After the second drink I decided that I should make a move and see what happens. I jumped to the seat she was on, put my arm around her shoulder and then asked her how she was doing. The first thing she did was put her head on my shoulder, close her eyes and take my hand.

I could see that her hands were weathered from work. The ends of her fingers were worn from the may hours of work that this young woman did. I sensed that this girl was here for the money of course, but from the tired look in her eye, anyone with a brain would clearly see that this girl was out of place in this club. After a minute she started to talk Spanish to me, lit up light a flood light and then drug me onto the dance floor where I made a complete fool of myself.

Being from Acapulco she could dance well and got to show off her tight body with those A cups and DDD nips. You could see them from across the room. So I had a great time slow dancing and all that jazz. Got several more beers into her then told her that I had to leave. She clung to me like Velcro so I stayed for another drink. Then she started to get loose with me. Lots of bump and grind, feely touchy; that sort of thing. I then decided to make my move.

I wispered in her ear "El Hotel Leyva por favor?" This was after a lot of prep by the way, I didn't just come right out with it. I saw it as the way out so I could get some sleep. She looked at me and nodded "Si." The first thing I thought of was that lying beach Maria. She said the girl won't go so I buy her drnks for some rubs and now she's coming to the room. I am tired, drunk etc. Shyt.

Maria was shocked and told me I was mistaken. Then she talked to the girl as she got her jacket and bag. I could tell by the look on their faces that they were having a serious discussion. I already had several serious discussions with myself about the Zona and why I should cool it etc. By now it was late and I didn't think I'd be taking a girl back tot he room; at least not one I didn't already know. This meant a walk down the hill, crossing Coahilla to the hotel etc. Foreplay, sex and to sleep by maybe 5 or so. I had a long day ahead of me.

Now Maria tells me about the $15. barfine. OK. Well if there is anything in the world I can do it's cover a $15.00 barfine so I coughed it up and the next thing you know this girl has a death grip on my hand as I lead her out of the club. I figgered I had not yet gotten laid so a 1/2 hour and she's outta here.

So in the room she hugs me and kisses me like there is no tomorrow. She talks Spanish to me again; and endless stream of Spanish. Then I start kissing her and feeling her up.

These girls from Acapulco have the black nips and brown pussies. Very exciting stuff. She was an A cup with huge nips (the ones I like). Ever see Farrah Fawcett in playboy? those are the nips I'm talking about. You noobies, go look it up.

In the sack she's a bit smelly but I'm drunk and I could be sitting in the middle of a shit pot and it wouldn't have made any difference to me. Her odor was natural. We showered before the session so I know she was clear before hand. We worked up quite of sweat during the session and I noticed the smell progress as she sweated. This was not a hygene issue. Her ass was clean and free of debris - modest hair.

No talk of money, no talk of paying before the gig etc. So the race for the headboard begins and I'm doing her like a bull. She however is doing me harder than I am doing her; sin condom by the way.

All positions were delightful and she knew her way around the male anatomy; after all she is 35 yrs old. She also speaks Greek, very well I might add.

Through the drunken stupor I was able to feel the pipes vibrate and I blew my load in fine AlleyKat stye with waivers granted for my condition. She moaned an gagged like she was into it but with these girls you never really know do you? Afterwards we embraced and she starts calling me her Novio like I'm supposed to be flattered. Then we fall asleep. By now it's 6am.

At 1PM we are awakened by the pounding on the door. Looks like it's check-out time so we beg off, get another hour (her talking Spanish again). We slept the time off wrapped around each other; neither of us wanting to let each other go. Me needing a hug BIG TIME and her for whatever her reasons were. Then we got up, showered together and packed up, her folding my shirts and pants for the suitcase. Off to breakfast (the girl spent the night and I was interested in the cuanto).

I figger "buy the girl breakfast." So we wander off to the car with the bags and then to the restaurant next to Pollo Lounge. I call the office to check in and to let my secretary know I have been called out to a special meeting (I own the company).

Six hours later we emerge still wrapped up in each other. She says she needs to take a taxi, I tell her I will drive her home (short drive to a local hotel I am sure.) Still no talk of money.

We get tot he car, I roll up $100. and slip it onto her hand, look her in the eye and say "por tu, Novia." She starts to cry, Fuuuuuck. That's all I need.

She lives in a rented house at the top of Constituion. She worked as a seamstress (hands and fingertips bear this out) until she lost her job and someone told her about making ficha money at the Rio Verde in the Zona. Two kids, (met one, very cool) and a look in her eye that speaks volumes.

In the sack, I examined every inch of her tight and trim body. No marks (except delivery) and no tattoos. No drugs (she doesn't smoke) and no tracks on the arms, legs etc.

At her house, I let her out of the car and she hugs me tight. We arrange to meet next Saturday at 7PM outside Rio Verde for a night on the town or as close to that as we can get. She says "Si."

I talk to my wing man about our sessions and after being duly admonished decide to meet the girl anyway, take her to MY destinations of choice etc.

Bunch of time goes by.

It's Next Saturday night. 6:30 PM. I move heaven and earth to be there early (and I pay people to move heaven and earth for me). Get a bottle of water from one of the storefront stands across the street from Rio Verde. Lean against the wall watching the Norte Americano tourists get clipped one by one.

At 6:45 she rolls up in a taxi libre. She pays the guy and gets out of the cab. I was interested to know if she'd walk up or if some guy would drop her off.

Then she stands down the street, away from the club trying to be inconspicuous. I could see guys hitting on her for the two minutes I spent looking at her from a distance. She handled it well.

Then she looked across the street and saw me. Her "all business" demeanor instantantly changed. She broke out into a complete smile and bounced across the steet to me.

Off to the Camino Real hotel, booked in and then to the room. (Nice place by the way.) I want to get things together but she unpacks my stuff, hangs my shirts, organizes the bathroom with all my stuff etc then wants to session. She wraps herself around me, rubs my nuts and the next thing you know we're in the sack sessioning. I am impressed with her style, her greek etc.

After our session it's off top La Fogata.

La Fogata is my "Mexico Corporate Headquarters.." I'm always there. Everybody knows me and I tip well. Needless to say when we arrived (at night, off hours and the same maseros etc.) we get the "royal treatment." I think that they think I am connected. Funny stuff.

Dinner went well, excellent table manners. She knew when she had to hep me with Spanish etc. Got to the lounge and enjoyed some of the best entertainment I saw in a long time.

For over 20 years I worked as a recording engineer at studios that recorded a lot of bands. I even got to edit mix a song recorded in 1979 by Frank Sinatra at Studio "A" in Capitol. No need to say more. Been there -done that. I know good music, I recognize it and also an excellent performance. The show was nothing short of spectacular and I'm going back.

While in the bar we embraced, kissed and then returned to the hotel where we sessioned and had a great time. All options explored, nothing left wanted. Two days and two nights with her hanging off me like a doating daughter. I figger I can handle this. What I need is a girl that is everything in the sack and someone who can put up with my stupid bullshit. This would be the girl.

So for now I have my needs met in the sack, I have a delightful creature that I can fondle to my hearts delight and no further need to hit the Zona. That together with a bunch of reasons why I shouldn't be there anyway made this a "shot in the dark" thing that no one could have spotted.

So I've decided to take this chica from Acapulco, with the tight bod, the big smile and the great attitude on for a bit. She'll keep me out of the Zona (promises no mas Rio Verde etc which I intend to personally verify) and if all checks out then I have a Novia that loves to session and is a cool girl besides).

You guys and girls (yes, I know who you are) have been great. thanks for your feedback on my posts. I've learned a lot. It's just time for me to back off for a while. Now that I have a girl I can hang with I find it easier to do than managing AlleyKat routines. So I'm gonna do this for a while, try to keep from getting clipped and have a good time. If and when the time is right, AlleyKat 101 will make it to the board.

I sessioned this girl for an 8 pop over 2 days and she wanted to session more than I. We showered every time together, her washing me along with some pre-sessioning. Very nice. American girls could learn sooo much but I'll save that for another thread. I figger I can Novio with this girl for the next while - till things cool down.

There is much more to the story but his post is longer than needed IMHO, so I'll leave it at this.

Especially thanks to the girls. Without their pussies and my wallet, none of this would have been possible.

Be safe and be nice.

Country John
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By farsider: "There's only one group of men that I know of who might possibly understand the fairer sex, and all those guys already have boyfriends."

Rabo Verde

08-24-05, 01:36

Yeah yeah! We heard it all before... COUNTRY JOHN will be back among us within 2 weeks, ROFL.

Country John

08-24-05, 06:49

Yeah yeah! We heard it all before... COUNTRY JOHN will be back among us within 2 weeks, ROFL.

You're a bigger PLM than I am. Why don't you get Alejandro out of AB on Friday night for a little birthday celebration with me and my girl? If not Alejandro then find something else to drag around but let's hook up. Tell Nichol that I've retired. (hehehehe)

Country John

PS You might have to repo a cel phone from my girly at Miami too.

Belgrath

08-24-05, 07:09

Country John

08-24-05, 17:04

I wish you well, though you know as well as anyone how fickle the female heart might be and how long the odds are of a real romance being found in the zona. I guess a few things are in your favor, that she seems as sexually into you as you are to her and that she hasnt worked in 'the business' so long that it's affected her inside. Positive is that she's older, been a hard worker, and not some twentysomething thats never faced any hardships and gets men to be her puppets all the time................ Though Chup would prob be very happy to fill in for you.
Thanks Belgrath. First of all, the big pink ribbon that Chupo needed in order to find his dick was lost. So he's in big trouble. But if anyone could help him find it again it would be Jessica.

I appreciate your comments. Seems like you have some experience in the minefields. This relationship is sin real romance. It's a business relationship that also lets the floodgates of passion open wide and we are both content to go solo while we are seeing each other.

If anything further develops it will only be after many sessions and only if I am up for it. I don't give a shit about breaking anyone's heart. It's either going to work or it is not.

Having said that I can say that she is a sweetheart and someone who has earned respect because of her hard work and dedication to her family.

We're all tuff guys but none of us have endured the hardships that some of these girls have. Most of us couldn't handle it. Many walk away. The ones that "stay for the fire" have a strong faith and drive. When you get one, work with her for a bit to see what she is all about. It's much less expensive than the Zona and the GFE is very well worth it.

The gringas could never match the GFE from these girls. They couldn't come close.

I just need to back away from the Zona for a while. Too many people know me, I am too high profile and that is NOT a good thing.

Country John

One Wing Low

08-25-05, 08:04

i usually eat out of la perlas, the clean and classy thatch-roof restaurant on the corner of coahuilla and nino heroes. they have $1 beers and excellent tacos and sea food dishes, including incredible ceviches and mariscos cocktails for $5. yummy. the only thing i hate about the place is the very loud salsa band.

across from la perlas are a bunch of street vendors, one is the seafood type. one night i found a bunch of asians eating out of that vendor, so i inquired as to the freshness and safety of the mariscos. they confirmed that it was very fresh and safe. they had partaken a number of times and had no problems afterwards.

out of curiosity, i ordered a plate of raw oysters and bearded clams on the half shelves. i would not trust the mariscos cocktails from street vendors due to hygiene concerns. i ate the shell fish with salt, lime juice and tabasco sauce. the sea food was fresh and very delicious. the bearded clams had a sweet black juice in them.

to cut it short, after the shell fish, i felt the urge for round two, then round three of romantic engagements with the fine chicas in zona roja. it took more work but missions were accomplished. the later ejaculations were in roughly the same amount, but with thinner density. brenda, sol and liandra can bear witness to this feat.

my knees felt pretty weak after all this actions. i arrived home at about 2am. when i changed clothes to go to bed, the strange thing was a big tent that automatically popped up in my pants. the tent was still there after a couple hours of sleep. it felt very much like a major dose of cialis.

to sum it up, i was capable of 3 to 4 sessions after the raw mariscos. i had raw oyster before which was not much help in the sex department, so i think the main cause must be the raw bearded clams in combination with salt, tabasco sauce and lime juice.

thanks to my new scientific discovery, the chicas are looking at potential increase of their revenue by 300 to 400%. i am about to publish my major findings in ama journals and major business publications. you mongers feel free to conduct scientific experimentations on your own and offer your peer reviews.

One Wing Low

08-25-05, 18:52

There are a bunch of regulars like Country John who frequent the ZR. The chicas certainly know exactly who they are. Does that mean the regulars like CJ may become targets for kidnapping or extortion? These violent activities against gringos are becoming wide spread in Neuvo Laredo as reported by the press. The US counsulate in NL is closed for the time being.

CJ mentioned that he would not risk turning down the street people early in the morning, since they have nothing to lose. Are they really serious threats? I turned dowm some of the worst-looking beggars in the ZR all the time and never been threatened. I feel more secured walking around at night in the Zona than most urban areas in the US. Am I wrong?

CJ sure is a very good contributor to this group. I feel for the ups and downs in his life. However he should know that falling in love with prostitutes (in Mexico or anywhere else) will end up costing him much more in money, time and emotional turmoils than just renting them.

Is CJ's going soft and his wisdoms becoming unsound about the chicas and the security risks in the zona Roja?

I just need to back away from the Zona for a while. Too many people know me, I am too high profile and that is NOT a good thing.

Country John

Rejecto01

08-26-05, 03:16

Looking for someone to hang out with and show me around. Send me a PM. I work till 4:00pm and am off after that and on weekends so shot me a PM if your interested.

Country John

08-26-05, 05:34

Is CJ's going soft and his wisdoms becoming unsound about the chicas and the security risks in the zona Roja?

No. I check the girls out and report back.

I am cancelling a multi TLD/TLN this weekend because the girl came up dirty. I checked her out and she's not cool. No time and no need for that in my game. Sure they all lie, but WE have to keep OUR emotions in check and not let girls lie to us either. If you can't trust them then show them the door. If you are ok with their scene then power to you.

The Zona is a dangerous place. There buy the grace of God go we.

Country John

Blue Nose

08-27-05, 19:29

A few weeks ago I was waiting for my fav's shift to start at 9pm and I was passing the time at HK. They have made some improvements at HK and they also no longer serve Corona beer there, which I think was a foolish decision.

Anyway, I was nursing a dos equis when I noticed Charlene. If you've spent any time at HK you will know her - she is a blonde with a baby doll face and a really nice ass. Pierced navel with a green stud through it that glows under the UV light at HK. But something seemed different about her that night - her breasts, that's what!! She has had a boob job and they look fantastic. I called her over and slipped her a dollar for a quick feel of the merchandise. I told her that I liked her new tits and she just smiled. I have been upstairs (to the hotel) with this girl, and I would not recommend her. I did not want to ever go with her again, but I found myself drooling over her new tits. Anyway, she would not go for less than $60, even though last time it was $50. Seems that Charlene is now charging a $10 "Tit Tax" in order to get near her.

Well, in spite of the fact that her new boobs look great, I know now that I made the right decision to take a pass on her. She was a lousy fuck before, and if anything she will be lousier now with her new assets. Sometimes, I just can't help myself - I feel like having a trophy lay.

Anyway, if you see Charlene at HK (and she's hard to miss) my advice is to stay away, despite her good looks. She can be a sour, pouty ***** and unless you like humping dead fish she's not much in the sack.

I wound up with Azul instead, and I won't bore you with the details as enough on her has been written here.

Blue Nose

One Wing Low

08-27-05, 23:12

I went to La Perla and ordered their raw mariscos. There is a cold dish in the menu called 'Viagra,' which is a plate of raw mariscos for $10.

I tried to explain to the chef that I wanted bearded clams. He assured me that there would be bearded clams in it. His concoction sure had a tasty and VERY spicy mix of all types of mariscos. However, I was not sure the bearded clam was in it.

To make sure I will get the bearded clam next time so I won't disappoint the chicas, I went into Babel Fish and found a translation. It was 'almeja barbuda.'

Anyone know whether this is the correct term for it?

Would anyone, proficient enough in Spanish, translate La Perla's menu?

Ocho Monger

08-29-05, 09:19

I always wondered if some of the regulars that I see at AB are here as well.

I always keep seeing who my my buddies call "Fabio", he always seems to be there more than half the time we visit. Any one know him or are any of you him. :)

And who's the old guy with the fisherman hat. He always parks his bicycle outside and hands out free cigs to the girls once in a while.

Just wanna say hello to some WSG members when we visit AB.

Ocho Monger

WhiteGuyNY

08-29-05, 13:39

I got back a few days ago from the west coast. I went down on fri night around 10pm. Got a hotel by 7th street to clean up and get some sleep before I went home. 90 for a suite, which I shared with 2 other guys. First we went to Modanna's the girls were nice, had a couple of beers, some table dances. Then off to Peants, which was hot as hell, with the girls just the same. Alot of people in place and the girls did not want to lower there prices for dances. The girls were hot. We had a few and off to CC. Many hot girls even girls that looked white. 2 blond sister sat with us. I first wanted the younger sister, but I had to go the the bathroom, but went I got back I sat with the other 27 sister. Still not bad. I told her that a had a few drinks and I would have a hard time cumming. She said no problem, I was so horny I did not care about the price. 70 + room. I know it was alot but I got my money's worth. I was up there for an hour to hour and half. No knocking on the door. She sucked me, fucked me, jerked me, sucked me and fucked me again until I cummed. My dick hurt from all the fucking. I would see her again, but I do not know her name. After getting some energy we went to AB, as always the girls were hot, wall to wall girls and guy even at 5 am. I went back in the morning to take care of business at AB. Overall a great time, but not enough time to really have a great time.

WhiteGuyNY

08-29-05, 13:41

I was speaking to a taxi driver on the way back, he mentioned Lexur is one to the better places now. hot girls, with massage, shower and fuck. Also lord black is mentioned by him. Of course I was not able to go to either one. I need to visit the west coast again.

Country John

08-29-05, 21:39

where i cum from, that's what we called pussy. the "great bearded clam."

i'm always a bit hesitant to eat anything on the street or especially seafood int he zona.

one morning between pops i was getting a cup of coffee at the store next to hotel hacienda. when i entered the store the shop keeper was picking all of the rotted grapes out of the bin (and they were rotted big time). he wiped the mold off the rest, washed them and then put them back in the bin. yuk.

understand that there are no health standards there (especially in the zona) and if you eat there and don't have the shits after a day or so then you made it.

$70.00 is high to go up with the girls. too high. this thing is going to shit. you got a couple cervesas, a few for the girl, the hroom the tips you're over $150 before you get your pants back on.

time for country john to find another venue. even the girls on the street are getting expensive because noobies are simply paying the price. too bad.

country john

One Wing Low

08-30-05, 02:16

Girls in Lord Black, Cabo San Lucas, want $300 for ST. I hope TJ will never come to that point.

We should all keep the market competitive. It's all about supply and demand. Mongers can't do much about the supply. All we can do is to carefully control our demand such that we are not bled dry by the girls, the hotels, the cabbies, the restaurants/food vendors ... at every turn.

There are a lot of attractive SW in the alley who only charge $20 and provide
near GFE. These girls will take their time and take good care of the mongers once they are treated decently. Try that as an alternative to the mechanical $60 bar girls and the ugly $100 massage girls.

If more mongers go to the $20 alley parasitas, before long the bar girls will be down close to $20. Some of the bar girls are already doing $30-40 tricks with mongers. The difference in price is small. I just hate to be pick-pocketed and fucked at the same time by girls with attitudes.

I was speaking to a taxi driver on the way back, he mentioned Lexur is one to the better places now. hot girls, with massage, shower and fuck. Also lord black is mentioned by him. Of course I was not able to go to either one. I need to visit the west coast again.

Belgrath

08-30-05, 02:52

That works out to $23 bucks per 30 minutes which is a dang good price, The hard part to believe is that those damm towel boys didnt knock. Too often they knock BEFORE the time you paid for is up and the girl your with has to keep shooing them away.

El Juez

08-30-05, 05:25

The three places you'll probably like to hit are Adelita Bar, Chicago Club and Hong Kong. All three are in La Zona Norte. If you can't find the type you want at any of those three places then they just aren't on the planet.

Chicago Club is a bit quieter with a lot of good looking women, while Adelita's is dog nuts and full of chicas. Hong Kong is a good strip bar where some of the girls go upstairs and some don't but you'll still like the atmosphere. If you want to cut right to the chase you can walk outside the Hong Kong into the Alley and see wall to wall SG's on any given night. I personally don't like the clubs on Revolution because of the extensive hard sell to buy girls drinks who may or may not deliver. But it wouldn't hurt to try places like Madonnas, Peanuts and Beer and Amnesia on Revo.

Good luck

Country John

08-30-05, 17:00

. What should I get then If I need to get a Pro?? A Working Street Girl or Girls Working in one of the clubs? I need good info on this.... Alright any Good info on Finding a Good Hot Big TiTTed Babe in Tj on the Weekend of Early December?

Nibu: I don't want to come off as disrespectful, especially to a member with over 4000 posts on this board. But I can't help but ask myself the question: "Who would know better to check the posts about any area than someone with over 4000 posts?"

In TJ there's lots happening in the clubs or you can order in. Depends what you're looking for in the girl. There is no shortage of big titties in almost any club. How much you wanna spend? Etc Etc. You can PM me and I'll try to steer you right.

Country John

Country John

08-31-05, 06:46

Jesus H. Christ Sr. This is Tuff Guy Level 3 stuff and I want the stinkin badge.

I find out that the girl I'm in lub with has been sessioning another monger who gets the same story that I do (she lubs me, wants to be my novia solo, no mas Rio Verde, no mas hombres etc.). I decide to drop a bomb on her at our dinner date (I know you have otra novio) and send her home in a cab etc.

I mean, I got this all planned out so I set up tlns for Friday Saturday night with my fav de Michoacan at Cascades (those FUCKS). I get to the club early to see my fav then the plan was to split to La Fogata to nix the other girl, then drive back to Cascades for my TLN.

One problem.

My fav wants to go with me to off the girl. STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID me let's her come along "as long as she behaves." She did not behave. In fact, I thought I've have a cat fight in the middle of the restaurante.

She offs the girl, the girl grabs a waiter (known bilingual from previous date there) to translate "No Mas Novios." to me with her eyes all teared up and wimpering like a *****. She's got her arms around me, my fav is getting froggy saying "lessss goh NOW." "Leeve her an lesss goh NOW."

By now we have the attention of the patrons. They think it's a live theatrrical show. It ain't. It' s reality reality. Jesus, even the waiters are getting nervous. Id ecide it's time to leave the restaurant, put her in a cab and motor back to Cascades with fav. Only propblem is she won't get in the cab.

Now it's getting tense on the street. She's crying all over the place and the other one is say "Ju go NOW?????" "Ju go wit me, or Ju go wit herrr, make up yor mine please."

I finally get the point across the girl that I ain't going with her lying ass and that I'm going with my fav to Cascades. The girl is foaming up all over the place. She's wearing her new dress that I got for her birthday celebracion (that night) and her lying ass is looking fine. She looks much better than my fav who is porking up quite well by the way. Getting a bit plump she is.

So the girl points out that the family is waiting across the street, they came to "see her off" or some shyt. But now she's walking across the street, crying into her hands, bad looks from the family, things are NOT going well. My fav is not looking too good by now either because I failed to obey her commands to "Jus less goe now." That kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I was insane to take her along but on the other hand she was a big help.

Back in the hroom at Cascades, I sensed my fav did not approve of my choice in women and when fuck time rolled around (just after getting into the room) I sensed a mechanical routine session, something I never had with her. Very bad session preps etc.

After I started to boink her I also sensed a very bad attitude. Like "hurry up and cum and then pay me and then lets go to sleep" kind of attitude. Then she asked the wrong fucking question:

"How come ju give money to fuck this girl and you don't send money to Michoacan for me and my babies?"

OK, times up, I'm done.

I stopped fucking her, pulled out media erection, ripped the condom off and said "I will not be staying with you tonight or this weekend." "I can not have jelousy in this relationship and now I am not comfortable." So I immediately dressed and left the hroom, hard still on, chica somewhat concerend.

I end up booking into hotel Acapulco. Took a few regulars up, got two pops off then slept in on Saturday. Had some TJ biz to do Saturday, wanted to hook up with JD for some business talk but we didn't connect. Called m_right my ace wingman to set something up but he had a TLN set up with a new fav already, I had to find something to drag around and stick with him.

Dropped over to m_right's place for a few beers and some chat. He was gracious enought ot let me shower and shave. We left his place arond 6PM so he could hook up.

I spot this delightful creature sitting at the bar who finds her way to my table. 28 yer old flaca with a killer bod, A cups, great legs and a fabulous dress. Looked like something could develop so I started with the $5. fichas to check her flow. We danced a bit and she was warming up. She was very well behaved at the table.

The masera said her novio was in the Zona and that she does NOT go. So I warmed up a bit more, a bit more contact another beer, another dance etc. I told m_right that I could get her to go, he is shaking his head "no."

After a short time, all of the sudden she has no novio, blah blah blah. The fucking Masero waiting our table was so agressive, I asked her if HE was her novio. In retrospect he probably was.

Drug m_right out of the bar and up the hill to Rio Verde. I wanted to see if my other girl was working and to give her a birthday card. I didn't think it was appropriate to give her the card Friday night since I was kicking her to the curb. I also wanted to express my thoughts again about her blatent lies and bullshit. I wanted to wingman for m_right on the deal back at the other bar. He's taking her and I wanted to take him for a walk so he could think about it a bit more since there was a $25. BF involved and I'm not sure he was getting a good deal from the girl.

When we leave the club we spot the girl I sat with running up the street in the alley and then followed her to a taco stand shere she was having a taco with the Masero. Something was up, I'd do a vibe check again later.

When I got in to Rio Verde, Masera Maria tells me the girl is not in right now (probably she was upstairs on a magic carpet ride). I gave the card to Maria and she said she'd pass it along. After we exited the club, the girl exits the club and chases us to catch up. She drags me back to the club and gets the doorman to verify her story about not working all week at the club - Saturday was her first night back since we were together the previous week. She teared up and seemed very anxious to go with me but I said that me and m-right were headed back to the States. If we changed our minds I might be back.

Her story checked out against my amigos PM, she hasn't been with him since our last session and the doorman stated she had not worked that week.

M_right thought I was crazy for not taking her. She is a hottie and he was convinced she was sincere.

we hit the ATM, then back to the club where his fav was waiting. The plan was to take the girls we were with if the deal was right. The other girl at Rio Verde would be the plan "B" because I came to the Zona to get laid and I'm a gonna get laid but I did not come to the Zona to take the Rio Verde girl.

Turns out the deal with the other girl was $25 barfine and $125 for the girl for an hour. Using the new math, that works out to $150.00 for the hour. As much as I liked the girl, I had to decline. I could TLN for that. Too much money and the ony girl I'd give $150. an hour to is Tania the Living Legend. Tania was at home and I should have knocked on her door to say hi and give her a hug. M_right fixes his deal and exits the club with his girl.

M_right took his girl and I walk back to Rio Verde to take my girl who was very happy to go. I had to BF her out for $15. and she went off to change. Started GFE from minute 1.

Off to dinner at La Fogata (I like that place). The girl hung off me like a doating daughter all night long. Us old farts like that. Nice dinner and chat then I drove m_right and his girl to his apartment where he would session her and I took my girl to a hotel. By now it's 1am. By the way, VZ wanted $80.00 for the night. Fucked deal. I was pissed. No way.

Full on GFE in the hroom, two pops then to sleep. We check out at 1PM. We session again when we wake up at about 10 AM, she gets another 2 pop out of me. I drive the girl home where she invites me into the house. Later she makes a fantastic carne asada, buys some beer, etc. A real nice afternoon and evening.

At about 6PM I am feeling like it's time to get away. I got an 8:30 court date on Monday morning so I was getting somewhat listless because the drive home wold be a long one. She wants to go to the hotel again however and after stroking my dick I agree and we head to the first hotel we could find, check in and session for a two pop. I decide to stay for the night, get up at 2AM and head back.

I drive her home again and see her to the door, hugs and kisses and at 3AM I'm in line at the border. While we session we arrange to meet on Friday night again for dinner etc.

Two hour wait at the border at 3AM. Fuck, what a drag. I get home, change and make it to court.

I paid the girl $150 and she was happier than shit. Promises me no mas Rio Verde, no novios, no amigos and no hombres, I am her number 1 and all the other bullshit they tell you. I was happy TLN'ing with her for two days at a great price. Can't beat her sessions either. She loves to fuck and she knows what to do. The sign of a REAL pro.

So Friday will be another date and we'll see what it brings. An amigo will spot check Rio Verde for me and see if we can find out what;s really going on. She is probably working another club though, this would make sense if she thinks I am onto her.

If she wants to work that's fine, just don't tell me she's not and expect me to buy that bullshit. If it turns out she is not working and my $150 a week is good for her then I can handle that too.

I am not looking for a novia, I just want a steady fuck to keep me out of the Zona but the girl has to be straight with me. If she's working then that's OK, just dont treat me like a dummy and tell me you're not.

AlleyKay 102 Friday night.

Country John
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By farsider: "There's only one group of men that I know of who might possibly understand the fairer sex, and all those guys already have boyfriends."

Belgrath

08-31-05, 10:23

Late Night

08-31-05, 22:08

Country John,

Please take your posts somewhere else.

Country John

08-31-05, 22:49

Country John,

Please take your posts somewhere else.

I'll take that under submission and think about it.

OK, thought about it..... no.

Country John

Country John

09-01-05, 00:36

Sad to hear the first one didnt work out though like I said, a real relationship... business or romantic is pretty rare in the zona. Asking a girl who is still in her moneymaking prime to just give up the life and the easy money is really a potshot unless youve known her for awhile and seen she is getting old/tired of it. Too many lady sharks who try to string up sugar daddys with false promises of 'youre the only one' or 'youre my favorite' while you're in sight. Just gotta remember her actions when you dont have much money to spend on her or in are trouble cause then the true colors show.

Anyways since you say you dont really want a relationship with a girl other than just sex, it's best not to really get attached to them and demand they quit the biz as if they loved you. Just keep it like a good regular friend you see every so often to screw her brains out and hang around with sometimes and not worry about what she does when youre not there. 99% of the time you're not gonna like the answer. It's not worth the hassle and the pain. One favorita I've seen for about 1 1/2 years and I figure she'll be making good money for at least 7-10 more years. So developing any personal feelings about her would be stupid till way after she's out of the biz on her own and by then, she might long be just a pleasent memory to me.

Good sound advice. That's how I'm playing it with the girl. A lot of mongers think that the girls are there because they want to be and many are. Many are there to feed the family and would rather not fuck for money. Yes you sex crazed bastards, it's true. Some really would rather not be there. Trouble is how would you know if you ran into one? The truth is you don't. Probably never will. Interesting is that they see us as uncaring slobs who know they are at a disadvantage (we have the money) and so the only way to get our money is to fuck us (one way or the other).

The majority of the girls are resigned to sex for money and have accepted the trade off as a business proposition. So have we.

Still a good post my friend. You have a clear perspective.

Country John

Fartknocker

09-01-05, 05:31

A lot of mongers think that the girls are there because they want to be and many are. Many are there to feed the family and would rather not fuck for money.

Hey, Fartknocker here barging in from the Brazil forums. Thought I'd stick in my dois centavos.

I think this is one of biggest myths in the 3rd world pay-4-play market -- that girls have to prostitute themselves to "feed their families."

Nonsense. I've lived in Brazil -- a country where the average income is quite a bit less than Mexico -- and I've known a lot of single moms who manage to make it WITHOUT selling themselves. It is tough, no doubt about it, and these women don't live well, but they do make ends meet and they do so while maintaining their morals and self-respect.

Women in the 3rd wold become hookers for the same reason that pretty girls in the US become escorts. The money is REALLY good, and if you can stand having sex with old fat guys, the work really isn't that hard. They don't use that money to pay for college tuition for their kids. They buy cars, cell phones, clothes, shoes (lotsa shoes -- latin women have a thing about shoes), etc. One thing John said above was true: they would rather not fuck for they money. They would rather that you GIVE them the money and not fuck them, and unfortunately a lot of suckers out there get conned into doing just that.

Getting you to feel sorry for them is a big part of their scam. Don't fall for it. A TJ hooker makes a hell of a lot more money, and lives a far better life, than the vast majority of single women in Mexico. She's not selling her ass for survival, she's selling it so she can live a lifestyle that would normally be out of her reach. Don't pay one cent for those alligator tears, guys.

One Wing Low

09-01-05, 19:00

That looks like what CJ is trying to get with the chica in TJ. It would be a great deal if anyone can pull it off and keep it for any length of time.

The chica by herself would be struggling with a $150/week budget in TJ, left alone her family. Besides, she can make that much every night hooking, which would be too much a temptation.

There are many questions here. What kinds of chicas would settle for this kind of arrangement? What does one have to promise the chicas to get this deal?

[QUOTE=Country John]If she wants to work that's fine, just don't tell me she's not and expect me to buy that bullshit. If it turns out she is not working and my $150 a week is good for her then I can handle that too.[QUOTE]

WulfgarX

09-02-05, 01:35

Aww his posts are the only thing that keeps me amused during my lunch break.

Its like watching a soap opera =)

Country John,

Please take your posts somewhere else.

Country John

09-02-05, 02:17

I think this is one of biggest myths in the 3rd world pay-4-play market -- that girls have to prostitute themselves to "feed their families."

Thanks Fartknocker and you are right in almost all cases but it's impossible to say that it's true in 100% of the cases. I have first hand knowledge of some girls who do fuck for food.

Again, I think yo are right in the vast majority of cases. TJ is a magnet for girls from all over Mexico (and in some cases the USA). Many come here to fuck their countrymen but the countrymen think they are fucking some exotic Mexican girly. Especially at places like Adelitas and Chicago Club. They forget the english language and make up some story about being from Mexico City or Monterrey when they are really from San Diego or Long Beach.

Very funny stuff to watch them kick their game on the mongers who think they'ere getting something right off the bus from Pueblo. I actually know some of these girls so don't tell me I'm wrong.

As for the girls who are feeding their families, I also have first hand knowledge of this in several instances.

I've been around for a while too and I don;t want you to think I'm shooting at you, lots of guys on this and other boards have the girls stereotyped so I understand but I do not agree. (Respectfully of course.)

Country John

Blue Nose

09-03-05, 22:28

Jesus H. Christ Sr. This is Tuff Guy Level 3 stuff and I want the stinkin badge.

I find out that the girl I'm in lub with has been sessioning another monger who gets the same story that I do (she lubs me, wants to be my novia solo, no mas Rio Verde, no mas hombres etc.). I decide to drop a bomb on her at our dinner date (I know you have otra novio) and send her home in a cab etc.

That's right, guys. The third person in this bizarre love triangle with Country John and his new fav is none other than yours truly, Senor Blue. I have been communicating with CJ via back channel, and I wanted to take a moment to throw in my side of the story. CJ, hopefully this can fill in some gaps and answer some questions for you. The rest of you guys, if you like soap operas, can just sit back and LOL.

Let me start off by saying that in the year or so that I have "known" Country John (despite never having met him in person) this is not the first instance of us having a lot in common. First off, we are both originally from the same neck of the woods, but now live in SoCal. The next thing in common is a chica named Salma, who works at Miami / HK. I met her about a week after CJ did last autumn, and she quickly became my good friend, and CJ's longtime fav. She comes and goes from la zona and we always update each other when she is around. She's a great girl, and I find it ironic that she became mixed up in all this when she went with CJ to La Fogota. Country John - the circle is complete.

Never, however, in my wildest dreams did I imagine that we would both end up with the same "novia" in the zone who ends up two timing on both of us (and who knows who else?) I guess CJ & I have been hanging around TJ for too long because we both had the same sort of plans for her - to set her up and give her some money so that we would have a regular in TJ. In my case, nothing formal or long term, just a casual relationship with a TJ chica.

OK, now for all the gory details: Like CJ, I met her at Bar Rio Verde, but in late June of this year. I hadn't been to RV in a while, but I thought I'd stop in one night to check out the action. The place was packed that night, and there were very few avaialble women (Rio Verde gets like this on weekends, and it can sometimes take an hour or two to find a girl you like). The ones who were available were either not to my taste or were trying to ficha fuck me (another very common thing at RV). I was about to leave when I saw her at the bar getting a glass of water. She looked great - a nice slim girl with a cute face and a charming smile. I grabbed her and bought her her the requisite fichas and before long we were hitting it off pretty well. She speaks no English, but with my halting Spanish I was able to communicate with her that I would like her to come back to the Hotel Nelson with me. Nothing was said about TLN, and she gladly accepted $50 + $10 bar fine (bar fine at RV seems to vary between $10 & $15).

Well, back we went, and on the short walk back she was as quiet as a mouse, and didn't make much eye contact with me. By the time we got to my room, I was sure I'd made a mistake and that this session was going to be a dud. Boy, was I wrong. Once the clothes came off, she was a dynamo. This quiet woman became like an uncaged tiger in the bedroom. She gave an awesome BBBJ, and then wanted me to fuck her bareback. She told me that she doesn't go to the hroom from Rio Verde (yeah, right), but I was naturally cautious since we were, after all, in la zona. I decided to take a pass on the barebacking, but she was still really into the session. She said that she hadn't been with a guy for six months, and this really turned me on. Like CJ, I believed her (or wanted to).

Anyway, I really gave it to her that night, and she just couldn't get enough. I was penetrating her as deeply as I could, and she was still screaming "mas" and "rico" in my ear. This girl loves sex, or is one hell of an actress. Alas, I came all too quickly and after a taste of her sexual wares of course I wanted more. I invited her to stick around and she gladly agreed. No mention of money or anything, she seemed to want to hang out for the night.

The next two sessions were just as awesome. On session number three, she was all over the bed - sideways, upside down, on top, backwards - sucking, fucking and moaning. On the third session, she motioned to me to fuck her from the side. As I was positioning myself she grabbed me, and took me into her ass. At first I was so shocked that I wasn't sure if she really wanted it. Then she started to moan and hump me, so I just went for it.

Exhausted, we fell asleep and I woke up again around 5am to her feeling my crotch and giving Mr. Happy a massage. It is hard to get a decent sleep at the Nelson since the mariachis hang out by the arch all night - I have been woken up at odd hours to them playing, and now is no exception. She starts a slow dance to the music for me, and before I know it I am inside her again for another awesome session. After falling back asleep, we woke up and she gave me a really nice massage that ended up with her giving me a really nice blow job. Her tongue went everywhere and explored everything. When I finally was about to cum I gave her fair warning, but she wanted to take it on her face.

Anyway, after session 1 I was hooked. I took her to breakfast and then drove her home. I was headed to Ensenada that day and invited her along. She wanted to come, but had to take care of her kids (who had been with her sister, I believe, all night). She didn't have a phone, but I gave her my number and then agreed to hook up with her again the next weekend.

Well, as luck would have it, my plans changed and I didn't make it down again for another two or three weeks. By now it is mid-July, and I haven't seen her for a while. I went back to Rio Verde and fortunately for me she was still there. We had some great sessions over the course of the summer. One time I went to RV, and they told me she had worked the day shift. This turned out to be untrue, so I missed her around the end of July / early August. Around this time, I think, is when CJ entered the picture. By then, I was calling her my novia and making plans for the future. The first one involved taking her on a nice trip to either Cabos or Cancun. It was expensive but I knew she would reward me tenfold. Anyway, the last time I saw her was two weeks ago, and the session was nothing short of remarkable.

She gave me a four pop throughout the course of the evening and into the next day. She likes anal in a variety of positions, and at one point I felt like I was humping a porn star - that's how good she was. And remember that she kept telling me that I was the only one. She didn't leave the bar with anybody elese. I was her novio. I was in heaven. For me, this is as good as it gets. Then my world came crashing down.

I returned from my trip and read Country John's post. I hadn't been posting much this summer, because I figured that once you find a novia, nobody really wants to hear about it, and it doesn't really benefit anybody. Again, I was wrong. I knew right after reading CJ's post that we were both doing the same girl. Everything from where she was from originally to where she lived in TJ to her age and the number of kids she had seemed to line up. I PM'd CJ to let him know my suspicions. Houston, we have a problem.

CJ knew right away too. At that point, he started to lay down his elabortate trap at La Fogota. At one point, the plan was for both of us to be at La Fogota when she showed up for her birthday dinner, but I couldn't make it. I bet it was a lot more fun with Salma there, and I would have loved to see that act. As I mentioned to CJ, all women get jealous, but Latinas in particular take jealousy to new levels (I have seen the TJ bar girls stare daggers at one another when a guy blows off one girl to buy another a ficha). I am surprised that there wasn't a cat fight right there in the restaurant.

Anyway, that's how it happened on my end. I haven't seen her since, and I have not been to TJ in two weeks. After everything that happened, I am taking a bit of a break. I guess part of me knew that she was banging other people, but I just didn't want to believe it. I got burned a little, and so did a fellow monger. Fortunately, neither one of us had invested a huge amount of capital in her yet. Whatever I gave her was repaid to me in a way that I will never forget.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Truer words were never spoken. I think there are many lessons for us mongers in this dramatic affair. True to form, I have just reported the facts as I recall them and I will let you draw your own conclusions with minimal proselytizing from me.

I'm down but not out. I'll be back in la zona before you know it. See you there.

Blue Nose

Queer Juan

09-04-05, 22:23

Cuntry John,

You are the Inspector Clouseau of this board. Bumbling and stumbling about with complete naivete . However I find it hilarious that you are rountinely taken by teenage chicas with equivalent 5th grade educations.

It's amazing to me you have managed to survive this long, you must have a guardian angel. Between the pot smoking and going into bars and places you have no business in and have no knowlege of , not understanding anything of the culture and having no clue as to the language.

Whats not funny is the way you assign yourself various status as though this was some sort of game your playing although for you it obviously is just that, a game. Thats fitting because you have the mental acuity of a ten year old. The crime is you're so bad at it.

I look forward to more stories in the future about your feeble attempts to wade through your mid life crisis via Tijuana although your writing style is without imagination and quite insufferable. I will be rooting for the chicas.

Belgrath

09-05-05, 23:40

This logging you out while typing is getting old. Sorry if this is a double post.

Heheh well at least he's experiencing all kinds of new things and places that he'll remember years from now. Besides these chicas may not be school smart but they've all had years of dealing with horny mexican men ever since they hit puberty and additionally lots of street smarts from 'the life'. They know how to use their amazing young body parts to activate the brain override switch in most men pretty easily so he shouldn't feel too foolish. You gotta experience life with all it's bumps and bruises as well as the shaking like a leaf orgas#$% to really know you're living.

Besides save the preaching for church, and post what if any adventures or misadventures you've had lately QJ. Like last night I had a chica give me the I'm her novio crap last night too though I just simply told her she doesnt need one, she's just 22 and making BIG bucks in the alley and probably could for years if she stuck it out and then would easily be able to fullfill her dreams of having a beauty shop later if she doesnt get tied down with kids and men. Or save her heart for a decent fairly well off mexican dude cause all us mongers down here are just dogs in heat. I wonder how many dumb would be sugar daddys she'll eventually line up since she is pretty dang cute? My wingman met his mexican vampiress last night and came back with some pretty impressive marks on his neck again.

Chicas are like restaurants, you have favorites, some you don't like their fare/arent impressed with, or get bored with after you've tried a few dishes, and you try new ones all the time. But you don't want to really buy a restaurant because you like what they serve you.

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: I always suggest to everyone who is writing a long report that they write it in a word processing program first, then proofread and spell check, then save it as file on their computer, AND THEN copy and paste it into the forum.

With this method, there is no danger of losing your work, and besides, it's easier to write in a real word procession program first. Even if you're in an Internet Cafe computer with no word processing program installed, you can always use Notepad or WordPad. Thanks!

Country John

09-06-05, 05:12

Cuntry John,

You are the Inspector Clouseau of this board. Bumbling and stumbling about with complete naivete . However I find it hilarious that you are rountinely taken by teenage chicas with equivalent 5th grade educations.

I'm glad you are amused. I retrospect I am amused too.

First, you apparently made an unintentional error in getting the name right. For future reference it's Country John. For someone who appears to be concerned with writing style I am puzzled as to how you would miss that one. I guess it's just another way of saying: "look at me!" Maybe it was the anxiety from "suffering" through the posts. Then again, it might have been intentional in which case I would have two words for you.

Out of respect for Jackson and the members, I'll restrain myself and refrain from engaging in a flaming session. I'll simply reply to your post.

Anyone with half a brain and any experience knows that the girls don't learn the craft in school my friend, they learn it on the street. Some are in high school, some are in college but this craft is not taught at any level of organized education, none that I am aware of but maybe it is, perhaps you can enlighten us.

Someone with your apparent insight should already know that though. It doesn't matter if you fuck a girl with a grade 5 level education or in nursing school (as I have), the session is the session. But you already know that too -right?

Did you take mongering classes in school? Do you have any experience? If so where did you get it? Sunday school? I think not. You lost all credibility with that one. Thanks for playing.

It's amazing to me you have managed to survive this long, you must have a guardian angel. Between the pot smoking and going into bars and places you have no business in and have no knowlege of , not understanding anything of the culture and having no clue as to the language.

Stick around, by the time you become a "senior member" you might learn a thing or two. You got me on the Pot thing though. Be careful that you do not assume to much. I've been around longer than you think. Why not chime in with your credentials? Your assumption of what I know and what I do not know about the Mexican culture is speculative at best and poor judgement at worst.

Whats not funny is the way you assign yourself various status as though this was some sort of game your playing although for you it obviously is just that, a game. Thats fitting because you have the mental acuity of a ten year old. The crime is you're so bad at it.

Well, let's take a look at that. Yes, it's a game. We bring our money, the girls bring their pussy and we try to get as much pussy for as little money as possible. What "game" are you playing? Hit the Zona with no "game" and you'll soon learn what it's all about. But you already know that right?

I can "assign myself" any status I want. There's nothing wrong with that. You don't think it's funny? Sorry you are not amused and I was unaware that I was offending anyone. You have my profound apology.

I'll try to be more sensitive to certain members of this board in the future and refrain from posting bullshit posts about things that are nothing more than brain farts and baseless opinions that do nothing more than illustrates one's ignorance as to what this board is about and what the Zona is about; not to mention plain old poor manners. I suggest you do the same

I look forward to more stories in the future about your feeble attempts to wade through your mid life crisis via Tijuana although your writing style is without imagination and quite insufferable. I will be rooting for the chicas.

OK. You'll see them. That from a guy who seems to have difficulty suffering though a writing style that lacks imagination, how then would you look forward to more? The chicas do not know how rich they are to have Queer Juan rooting for them. I'll be sure to let them know.

Your choice of handles might be indicative of your own particular mid-life crisis but I'll leave you to that, and you should know that it will be my pleasure to post for your benefit and humor.

As you "suffer" though my postings, keep this in mind: I TLN'd/TLD'd/TLN'd/TLD'd/TLN'd and TLD'd for $100. this weekend. Now let's hear your story. While I respect your right to be arrogant and post your opinion, your forum for flaming should be PM's as such behavior sends the wrong message to other members. Maybe one day we'll have a beer and laugh about it. I'll buy.

Thanks for playing.

Country John

Chef Dude

09-07-05, 23:56

Last weekend I hooked up with Betty from CL (San Diego, keyword Betty or Tijuana). The rate is $$$ for 3 hours with multiple pops. Pics and description said she was 25, petite.

I hooked up with her at the Mickey D’s in TJ. I asked her to ware a skirt and heels and she did. She was not bad but she had to be 30 at least. Took me to Hotel were I paid $58 for a Jacuzzi Suite. I must say the room was a suite and it was quite nice. When booking I asked if GFE was provided including DF and alas it was not.

Everything was covered and Betty was quite nice. The Jacuzzi was great and she accompanied me back to the border. All in all I had a nice time. Made me think what I’m missing from the Far East. I would do it again but with someone else.

Country John

09-08-05, 05:45

Last weekend I hooked up with Betty ...... I asked if GFE was provided including DF and alas it was not.

Chef Dude, sounds like the session went well despite no GFE. Usually repeat sessions bring on the GFE and when the Latina brings on a GFE, it is a very cool experience.

If she behaved well, and if the age issue was not a turn-off, you might re-consider a repeat because you got a good rate. There is no substitute for the Latina (in any case) and especially of you turn on the GFE.

If Age is NOT an issue and you have no problems with the 30ish crowd, you MUST see Tania the Legend. She's a bit pricy at *.5 but you will not regret it. Full on GFE and expert performance that makes any gringa experience pale in comparison. Ahhhhh the Latina. Ahhhh Tania.

Country John

Belgrath

09-08-05, 13:53

No Deep French Kissing is usually not too much of an issue for me since I just cant ignore where else chica's mouths have been... :) Especially since you cant french em with dental dams or whatever and still have it be enjoyable. Kissing me or them on the chest neck side of the face is no problem as long as I dont see have any cuts, abrasions or breaks of the skin. The skin on the gums is so thin that theres always a tiny bit of bleeding with brushing or flossing so I'm paranoid cause all it takes is one virus... Besides, also paranoid about oral herpes, and mono since I never got it as a teenager. A coworker near me got mono as an adult not long ago and it knocked him out of work for a few weeks! Hard to hide that from the wife or gf.

Member #4450

09-09-05, 19:13

Dreamer Dwayne

09-11-05, 02:53

Spent Thursday night down in Tijuana. Wasn't my first foray into the adult Disneyland. Arrived in town around 6 pm with a buddy of mine. Our first stop was some new hotel where we rented the 'presidential suite' for $140. (This was a business trip so I was able to use the company card). This place was made for parties - a saune, a swimming pool/jacuzzi (inside the room), two large master bedrooms, and TV's with porn playing in every room.

After dinner, we went over to Obsessions. I have a novia there, and I wanted to see if she could get time off. She couldn't, so after spending an hour there we headed over to the Mermaids near Adelita's. We tried to coax the girls into coming with us, but the last second some manager came down and told us we would have to pay the house charge. We decided against them, and went to another Mermaids parlor not too far from there. Must be a new place since the rooms were very clean. The manager had the girls line up in front of us and we picked the three girls we wanted, Johana, Jenna, and some other girl. Johana was a very cute mexican girl, Jenna was thin and blondish, and the other girl was a chubby gal who was alot of fun. We paid the manager and took the girls to our pad.

Once there, we all got into the pool except Johana who claimed she was allergic to some chemicals in the pool. I got out to convince her, but she just wanted to go upstairs. I didn't need much convincing, so off we went. I was abit disappointed in her performance. She was enthusiastic, but seemed inexperienced. It took me 30 minutes to finish, as I spent much of the time just trying to find the right positions. The second time it went much better.
Johana - Looks 8, Body 7, Attitude 7, Sex 5.

Though I never got to sample the other girls I would give them.
Jenna - Looks 9, Body 9, Attitude 8
??? - Looks 7, Body 5, Attitude 9

The prices for the girls were $75 per hour. Expensive, but I spend that much in the bars in beer/dances so it was a wash.

Tom231

09-12-05, 05:13

although my experience in mexico has been limited almost exclusively to tijuana i have found most of this fellow's comments to be right on the mark.

http://mexicopeeks.********.com/

Country John

09-12-05, 06:10

Guys, need some help here?

I'm thinking to take my fav to TLN from Adelitas, and my Q is: If she's working her shift and I don't want to wait till she's finish, how much should I pay to the bar to let her go w/me? Do they let her go with me if she's on her working shift?

You'll pay the bar what they ask if you want her to go off shift. Never took a girl off the floor for a TLN. If she's working, and it's night she might be off at 11pm, or as late as 5AM. Ask her to come to the hroom after her shift. This way she gets to work and you save some money. If it's 5AM then get some sleep because they can be delightful first thing in the morning too, that is unless you decide to pay the barfine. Let us know.

Q:

Hotel next to Adelitas. Do they let you bring girls from the alley or somewhere else, or only Adelita's girls?

You rent the hroom, you bring who you want. There is a service charge for every other girl after her

And what's with this shit? I grabbed a taxi from Adelitas coming back to Sentri border and some A. hole blah blah blah blah blah and maybe going to jail for nothing.

Look, this is MEXICO, a different country. They do things differently there. I once had a shoe shine guy try to clip me for a $30.00 job one night. He said we "didn't discuss price" before he did the job so he got to charge what he wanted. Go Figure.

You have to read the posts, you have to take personal security a bit more seriously and you have to know that there are some corrupt cops out there. Especially at the Sentri drop off point so be prepared to get searched. always remember to be respectful. Dealing with Taxi drivers will be the easiest of things you'll do when you are turned on and dialed in.

Of course you should always be able to prevent yourself from going to jail in Mexico.

Country John

Rabo Verde

09-12-05, 07:36

Country John

09-12-05, 23:24

Latest news: COUNTRY JOHN and BLUE NOSE have cut out the middle man (middle girl?) and are now boinking each other, thereby saving lots of money and drama!!! The movie will soon be showing on HBO Pay-Per-View! Tee hee!!!

The only DRAMA we got is this short shit that follows us around going "Tee hee hee hee."

Chupo, if you're upset about the butt plug thing, don't vent on this board!

Are you on for Friday? Tell Alejandro you love her and let's do it at La Fogata.

Country John

Member #4450

09-13-05, 00:51

You'll pay the bar what they ask if you want her to go off shift.What they want? I don't think so !!there's gotta be a quote of the same $$
I know Adelitas been there many times, what's the bar fee, $ 40 or?

You rent the hroom, you bring who you want. There is a service charge for every other girl after her.

Are you talking the hotel to the left right next to Adelitas? I never got charged for every other girl after? Maybe they do charge you if they know she's not from AB.

You have to read the posts, you have to take personal security a bit more seriously and you have to know that there are some corrupt cops out there. Especially at the Sentri drop off point

I read the posts ol the time, doesn't said sh.t about which one is a better drop off point some guys said Sentri it's better and others claimed not.

Cali Style

09-13-05, 01:34

Country John

09-13-05, 05:43

What they want? I don't think so !!there's gotta be a quote of the same $$
I know Adelitas been there many times, what's the bar fee, $ 40 or?

Watever they want.

You rent the hroom, you bring who you want. There is a service charge for every other girl after her.

Are you talking the hotel to the left right next to Adelitas? I never got charged for every other girl after? Maybe they do charge you if they know she's not from AB.

Cascades.

You have to read the posts, you have to take personal security a bit more seriously and you have to know that there are some corrupt cops out there. Especially at the Sentri drop off point

I read the posts ol the time, doesn't said sh.t about which one is a better drop off point some guys said Sentri it's better and others claimed not.

Your experieces might be different.

Country John

Country John

09-13-05, 06:00

I'm a TJ newbie...been there once before, ok service with a hottie, but want something more.

My question is: how does one spot a girl that will provide good service? (i.e. no rush attitude, cool to be with, nice girl).

Although looks are important, I'm mostly concerned about attitude and service rather banging the hottest girl at the club.

I'm sure talking to them has alot to do with it, but my spanish is very limited, enough to get by.

I'll be hanging out at AB mostly. Is the trick to just walk around, and see which one gives out the best vibe and hope she is the one?

AB is a sex factory. You will have little influence over what kind of session you end up with until you work the room and find the girl you like. Hopefully she will like you too. That's one way.

Beauty is only skin deep. Never more true than at AB. Spanish might be a barrier but the girl already knows why you're there. You can get through with sign language because she will in most cases just want to go to the room.

Some will go to your room after their shift but it will cost you. You can always pay for more time. The bottom line is there will always be money involved, the question is how how much?

Maybe someday you'll meet that special Seniorita.

Country John

Gollum30

09-13-05, 21:27

Member #3063

09-14-05, 03:44

I took a trip on Monday. I'm sorry but I dont have names on any of the girls I had(too much beer and bad memory), just to say I had a good time, I did see a guy(local) with a busted nose.As you walk out of AB turn right a the light the first bar on the right.A girl was saying that he passes out and hit his face. Right on the bridge nose looked like 8-10 stich job, really ugly.Didnt hang out police and medics showed up. Later in the day another local drunk I had seen earlier walking around wasted. Now he was walking around with big shinner over his lft eye, and had pissed his pants.AB was better than the last time I had been there, been only twice now(it was a Sunday).Had this really small thin girl (name?) from Sinloa 23 very cute she did have a small birth mark on her right thigh little bigger than a quarter, 40+11. She wanted 60 but talked her down. Plus I told her that I had already invested in her on a drink.Need to make weekend trip to check CC walked in there, their were only two guys and about 5 gals, and the guys were watching the football game

Country John

09-14-05, 07:25

I should be going down next month and need to find an attractive girl who will do a girl. Most Mejicanas are opposed to this. If anyone knows of one please let me know. How about the massage parlors? If someone could ask them on the next trip let me know what they say. Thanks

Gollum30, are you a girl? It's OK and everything I'm not familiar with you so I am just asking straight up.

If you are a girl, you will not be disappointed. There are LOTS of girls who love to do girls. Many have girlfriends, and many do their girly room-mates.

If you're a guy anhd you want two girls then no problem. If you want another girl for your girl then that's there too. Lots of girls enjoy these sessions. They are in the clubs and some are in the Alley, just interview the girl and they'll tell you.

Country John

Lee Bog

09-14-05, 16:33

The 3 girl orgy sounds too good to be true. I'm afraid some guys will rip me off once I get inside the hotel since they know I've got that much money. Anyone ever tried this amazing offer, or any of the other girls here?

These are ads in **********.org > los angeles > erotic services, presumably from TJ women. The site is Craigslist. Hope it's okay with Jackson to put the site here since it's okay to talk about it in the USA forum.

Looks like the girls offering the orgy have posted individual ads too. Anyone experienced any of them? Any info / insight would be appreciated.

Thanks!

ImTheMan1

09-15-05, 01:45

I will be going down to TJ this weekend. I used to go there a lot but haven't been a while. I will be checking out as many strip bars and places like AB, CC, HK as I can. Since I am not too much into paying for banging girls thing, I will also check out reglular clubs like Las Pulgas where a lot of regular girls go. I just enjoy drinking some beers and getting relaxed while watching and flirting with these latinas. Anyone up for it and want to meet up, email or shoot me a PM.

Heyzeus

09-15-05, 01:58

Lee Bog

09-16-05, 02:48

Hi All,

Anyone heard of the gangbangers club .com? They have an event Saturday. They have 4 girls & you can have a girl (or more) for an hour for $69/hr each girl. Multiple pops in the hour. Check it out. I'd like to go but would like to go with another monger just to be safe.

The girls are the same as in tj amigas .com

I wonder if the gangbang club is legit or maybe someone just swiped the girls' photos off the web?

I plan to be in TJ Saturday. PM me if u wanna hook up. Safety in numbers.

Lee

Gollum30

09-16-05, 18:51

I have a friend who is a girl who wants to see if she can hook up. Over the last 22 yrs in the zone, I have never had occasion to take a girl to hook up. I have gone with a few girls to the clubs on Revo, but never been to the zone with one. So if anyone has any experience in the zone with a non-pro and getting them hooked up, let me know. Thanks

Member #3063

09-16-05, 21:35

Story on testing in the Zona.

Also new regulations.

http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/09/16/sections/nation_world/nation_world/article_677488.php

Belgrath

09-17-05, 03:28

Last night and prob even more so tonight the streets in TJ will be bezerk with flag waving honking shouting drinking guys and girls in cars. Alot of the chicas in Chicago club were wearing frilly white dresses with twin pigtails and green red and white ribbons.Outside Hong Kong club they set up a big outdoor stage in the Alley and alot of the girls were dancing outside on stage under the lights. They closed off the alley to cars but the alley girls were all there as well as the Hong Kong dancers performing outside!

Amis

09-17-05, 03:28

My report is kind of late!

I was in TJ in June of this year.

No longer staying at Villa De Zaragoza as I found Hotel Ceaser's clean and cheaper. I never even use the room except to pass out and take shower.

The club Chicago and Adelaitas no longer excite me as the girls seem to be more hardened. And AD is a zoo on weekend nights. Once upon a time, I would pull up to 3-5 girls from both AD and CC but last trip may be just one.

The Street girls are really very short and young and any extra service, you have to pay more. The service level in my experience is sub par to club girls in general.

I tried Hong Kong and yes, some stripper's will go to the room. Both Chevelas and Tropical have girls that don't go to the room as much and more focused on drinking and dancing. The pace is much less of brothel house here. And the dreadful knock on the door comes a bit later not right away.

I ran into my old friend from another club at Tropical and after a while she surprised me by pulling out my rubber! I hope I am not fucked for going live with a hooker? Be careful guys we are playing roulette in these places.

Oh, true if you frequent the Zona, you will some day be stopped and searched bt Policia. It happened to me as I crossed the street from Tropical to go to Hong Kong. The police searched my person for drugs. I had my money hidden and nothing was taken. I has altroids and I had to give him to test it as it was just candy. Funny, I had condoms in my pockets and Policia looked at them. Or well, you went into my pockets and it serves you well.

Play careful in TJ!

Chef Dude

09-17-05, 14:47

Please read my earlier report. The ladies do not offer GFE. I had a good time but no GFE.

Lee Bog

09-19-05, 16:38

Gangbangers club is legit. 2 of the girls met me at McD's & walked me over to the corner where a van was waiting. I talked to the organizer about my concerns, like: Are you gonna take me to some dark alley & rob & kill me?

The organizer, who I'll call Dude, assured me he understands my apprehensions. He explained he hired the girls. He & his partner test drove these girls a few times to make sure they were extra accomodating & worth the money. They would pay the girls $500 each in the morning after the session. It was definitely risky, but seeing Helen looking better than her website pics made me hornier & made me take the risk.

We drove off with what appeared to be 5 US guys & 3 Mexican girls altogether in the van. I talked a bit to the other guys & girls to gauge the situation & see if everything was cool. The atmosphere in the van during the drive was pretty good & made me feel at ease. I'm sure my horniness clouded my judgement. Brenda was wild, sitting on 1 guy's lap while putting her leg on another guy as she spread her legs wide, or bending over to put her g-string in front of a guy's face as Betty would slap her ass hard. Brenda said she's like this even without being drunk. Betty confirmed. The Dude would translate as the girls speak just enough english to get by.

There's a lot of groping of guys & girls. We stopped by a supermarket to get some food & drinks, then headed to a hotel about 10 mins. away. By that time it was dark. The van stopped in the hotel parking lot. I could see the rooms outside. Okay I thought. So far things seemed alright. But I was still on alert. If anything bad was gonna happen, this could be the time. In my head I imagined the Dude turning around & pulling out a gun. I watched him tensely as he got out of the van. He opened the van's side door & then asked us for the money up front. $207 from each guy. Then he & the driver went to the lobby to get the rooms. At this point I thought he could just take the money & not come back. But after a few minutes he said let's go up. We went inside 2 adjoining rooms.

The email correspondence is a bit confusing. 3 girls for 3 hours at $69/hr.
What happens is, you pay $207 to get 3 hours with the girls. You can do whoever you want, finish as many times as you want. They schedule 3 guys to be with the girls, who are pretty wild & pretty much up for anything. You do them in the same room or if you want, you take 1 into the other room. The Dude joins in at times. At the end of 3 hours the next batch of 3 guys arrives. The driver goes back & forth bringing guys to & from the border. You can get a ride from him or I suppose if you're in a hurry you can grab a taxi. They book the girls from 6pm - 9am. Your time starts from the time you start the action. Things were pretty loose clock wise.

I didn't experience DFK & kissing on the mouth, YMMV. All did CBJ which in retrospect is a good idea. The girls have a lot of energy & are worth it. Dude said Helen does anal but by that time I was too tired. The girls were very accomodating & make sure you are involved, even asking what/who you want to do next if it looks like you're not being part of the action. They definitely want to get hired again & build a good following. If they're smart with their money they can retire in a few years with a house & their own unrelated business.

The Dude was nice & very forthcoming about the club, which is pretty much just starting, & the porn industry in general, in which he's been a veteran. This guy's a real entrepreneur. He plans to have this event every week. He's also planning a similar type club on the US side where eventually he'll hire a porn star for each event & guys can gangbang her for free if they're willing to be on camera for the website. Although I suppose there'll be some monthly fee to be in the club.

Not sure if/when I'll repeat but definitely something that broadened my perspective. If you're curious about this kinda stuff, this group gets my recommendation. Enter your email at gangbangersclub.com & stay up on the next gig.

Thanks to all the guys that hooked up or tried to hook up with me for the trip. I appreciate the company, especially when I was nervous about checking this thing out.

That is some wild shit man.
Lee

Black Dak

09-23-05, 04:20

Seems like I will finally get my chance to partake in all the fun in Zona Roja this weekend. Gonna head down Fri. night. Will be going with a friend who has never been.

I need advice on the cabs, where to catch them, where to ask to be taken, etc.....

Also, how much is too much for the girlies?

Any recent hot spots?

Any places to avoid at all costs? Like streets around zona roja?

Do the VIP rooms come with bj? Or is that negotiated for extra $?

What to wear? Or not to wear?

Do all the girls have condoms? Even the SG?

Where do negotiate with the SG? Right there on the street?

Any key spanish words or phrases that I should know?

Thanks to all that contribute!

If anyone is gonna be done there on Fri., wanna hook up and show a couple of newbies around? Couple beers in it for ya! LOL!

Belgrath

09-23-05, 07:29

Adelitas- Chicago club girls $50-60 per 1/2 hour 11 for room and 1 tip for towel boy to clean up the room when you leave. Only a girl that gives super service consistly to you might be worth more or a few more bucks in tips afterwards but you let em know its for their good work! 50-60 includes her getting naked, a blowjob, and at least one pop... Your milage may vary after that in how you get along and how wild or 'extras' she adds. About 80% of the women will go up for $50 and sometimes if she isnt a looker (old or fat), its slow or shes desperate $40 is possible. Dont be shy, its not like a normal bar, EVERY girl there is a hooker so feel free to talk to any of em cause they all are there to get your money! Both have some of the girls do strip shows at night occaisionally.

Hong Kong club girls (1/2 of em will go to nextdoor hotel for sex) are about the same price. The rest are only dancers and work for tips/lap and private dances. HK does have strrppers constantly, dancing girls on bars, shower shows, shaving cream shows and booth dances. never done the vip room though.

The street girls go from $15-20 for just straight 20 min of sex with their clothes on, usually they want 5 more to get naked and another 5 for a bj with sex... the cheapie hotels they take you to are 3 - 6 bucks.

ALWAYS use a condom! most of the time the girls have one but take some along too cause some brands feel better than the cheap free ones the girls use.

Always dress down, you dont need to impress the ladies here, dont look like a rich target for any muggers or occaisionally crooked cop looking to shake down a gringo with a fat wallet!

Blue Nose

09-24-05, 02:23

Seems like I will finally get my chance to partake in all the fun in Zona Roja this weekend. Gonna head down Fri. night. Will be going with a friend who has never been.

I need advice on the cabs, where to catch them, where to ask to be taken, etc.....

Any places to avoid at all costs? Like streets around zona roja?

Do the VIP rooms come with bj? Or is that negotiated for extra $?

What to wear? Or not to wear?

Do all the girls have condoms? Even the SG?

Where do negotiate with the SG? Right there on the street?

Any key spanish words or phrases that I should know?

I would avoid primera, between Constitucion & Nino Heroes. Basically, as a newbie you will want to stay in the alley or right around it on Constitucion (up to Chicago Club is OK). I would advise to walk over and take a taxi both to and from the zone.

VIP rooms do not come with BJ. Some girls will and some will not. If you have a regular you will know what you are getting - otherwise YMMV. Best to negotiate up front with the girl. Believe me, they will not be offended.

Some girls have their own condoms, and others purchase them at the hotels. My advice, for what it is worth, is to bring and use your own condoms from the US. Mexico has a long history of corrupt public officials who, for a small bribe, will turn the other way to avoid noticing something they should not (for example, bacteria laden food products or a defective batch of condoms that the manufacturers decide they still want to sell in order to reap a profit).

Wear whatever you want, but I would agree that you don't want to appear too fancy. First off, the girls don't really care and secondly you will just draw attention to yourself. Shorts are generally not worn by Mexican men, but you can certainly wear them as long as you don't mind being labeled instantly as a gringo. For the sake of all of us gringo mongers in the zone: Please... just leave the fanny pack at home...enough said.

Just negotiate right there on the street, or in the bar. Just make sure you do it before you agree to go to the room or pay any money. Avoid paying until after she gives you the service - just show her you have the money. If she tries to rip you off and charge more money for extras, just walk out and take the hit on the hotel room fee. Avoid getting "ficha fucked" and buying the girls too many drinks in the bar.

Key phrases: sin ropa (without clothes) - this is important because most of the street girls will try to keep their clothes on unless you specify. Sexo en el culo (anal sex) - you can always ask but many BGs will just walk away. You will find that rare one, however. La Propina - the tip; the clean up guys will yell this at you as you leave the room. Tip them $2 before you enter for more time. Standard tip after the fact is $1. Have fun

Blue Nose

QuackUp

09-26-05, 03:27

After taking summer vacations in Costa Rica, Argentina and Brazil, I finaly made it back into the zona.

I arrived around 15:00 Saturday afternoon and headed straight to HK.. I wanted to get one of Azul's famous bbbj. When I asked the waiter he told me she was on vacation. Oh well, if I don't see anything else here, I will go to LC. and go with my old standby Denise.

Nothing stood out so I walked over to LC.. Denise was not there at the moment but one girl caught my eye. Her name is Carla. Pretty face, thin and I think she is one of the strippers. I call her over and buy her a drink. Something in her voice was not right. Sure enough, the night before she had caught a cold. I did want to take her upstairs but I didn't want to take a chance of catching a cold from her. I told her if I came back in a couple of weeks would she go upstairs with me. She said yes and appologized for being sick. Then she left for the changing room.

As I was finishing my drink, in comes Denise. Alright, finally I'am going to get laid. She comes over, says hello and plants a wet one on my lipps. The waiter comes over and asked her if she wanted a drink. She told him no. I asked, what was wrong? She said she was on her period so she wouldn't be going upstairs today and she didn't want me to spend money on a drink because of this. So far 0 for 2.

As Denise left, I notice a tall slim beautiful girl sitting about two tables away. I call her over and bought her a drink. We started talking and I asked her if she went upstairs. She said yes and when she finished her drink we would go up. She finished her drink and I said lets go. She said, before we go up could she order one more drink. My alert went up and I asked her again, you do go upstairs to the rooms? She said yes, so I bought her another drink. When she finished that drink I said lets go. That's when she said she doesn't go up. I asked her why did you lie to me? She didn't say anything and sat there with a dumb smile. I told her to leave. 0 for 3, strike three you are out at LC. By the way, this rob b____ name is Lilian. Stay away from this one.

Don't worry, it gets better.........

QuackUp

09-26-05, 03:56

I walk back over to HK.. At the time there was nothing special. I sat drinking my drink and this one waiter keeps asking which girl do I want. I remember either bluenose or octraveler mentioning Britney. The waiter told me she works only nights. I told him I would wait unless I saw something better. At least this should keep him off my back.

Anyways I'am getting really horny so I see this blond hair girl, not the best looking girl but looked really friendly. For the life of me, I can't remember her name. I bought her a drink and we were hitting it off pretty well so I asked her if she wanted to go the hotel. She said yes and off we went.

First good sign, she didn't ask for the money up front. Second good sign, she wanted to shower first and as she was in the shower she tells me to join her. In the shower she soaps up the main parts, lets the water rinse the dirt away, then she starts a wonderful bbbj right in the shower. She kept at it for about ten minutes. I was actually trying to cum because I felt so horny I thought I could do two pops with this one. I just couldn't pop in the shower.

After the shower we went to the bed and since she made me feel so good, I told her I wanted to make her feel good also. I daty for another 10 minutes then went to the feature event. Did cg, doggie and finished in mish. She did allow dfk but not as much as I like. We did go over the allotted time ( the knock ) she told the guy in Spannish we were finishing up. She just didn't tell the guy we were finishing up in mish. After we showered together and this first meeting was alot better than I expected. Our time together lasted about 45 minutes. Next time I go, I will get her name for you guys.

To recover after that very enjoyable time I walked across the street to the sport book. They now charge you $10 to get in but they give you a $10 voucher to make sure you bet while there. No problem on my part because I usually make a small wager when I'am there. I get there to see the 2nd half of the U.S.C. game, yes the half where they decided to put everything together. I stayed there for about an hour, started to feel it again so I went back to HK..

As soon as I walk in, I see a beautiful girl named Lorena. Her face is so beautiful instead of asking her for a drink and getting to know her, I asked her if she wanted to go to the hotel. She said yes and off we went. She has been on the job for only two days. I was surprise she went up, being so new and all. Upstairs, good sign not asking for money up front. Bad sign, she doesn't give bj of any kind. I'am sure with time she will be right up there with the best of them. Her session wasn't great but wasn't bad. Plus her beauty was what got me into her. I probably won't try her again soon, I will let her season out a bit. The knock came when I was putting my jeans back on so at least she wasn't a rush job.

Again to recover, I went back to the sports book. Once you bought one voucher, that is good for the whole day.

One more trip to HK.......

QuackUp

09-26-05, 04:14

As I go back to HK.. they are selling the beers out front to get in. I told the guy I just finished up a session but the guy says I still have to buy a beer to get in. No problem I get the beer, change it inside for a water. I get a table near the rear of the bar. The waiter who was asking me which girl I wanted earlier came over and told me Britney would be down in about half an hour. To tell you the truth, Britney was the furthest from my mind. I can't believe this waiter would remember. Anyways the waiter brings me over another waiter and tells me this waiter would take care of me because his shift was over. I gave him 10 pesos and told him it wasn't necessary to get Britney. He said he already told her I was waiting. At this time I could have gone home because I was satistfied but since he said he called her, I figured, what the heck, so I waited.

For some reason I thought Britney was a tall, slim blond. The Britney the waiter brought to me was blond, not short but not tall, and had an average figure. What should I do? I thought the reports on Azul were right on, so I took a chance with this Britney. I bought her a drink to get to know her. She had just gotten out of the shower and she told me she rushed down knowing I was waiting for her.

After the drink, she was friendly enough, we went upstairs. Again, everything written about her were right on. Bbbj, daty, whatever position you want and again, money wasn't discussed at all. She also dfk for as long as you wanted, just up my alley. What a great way to end the night. 0 for 3 at LC., 3 for 3 at HK. When I go back to HK, there were a few lookers I would like to try that were working the night shift. One of the girls name was Carla. A blond slim girl. I told her I would hook up with her next time. Hopefully she will be better or at least a good as the girls I had this past Saturday. If anyone has been with this girl, please let me know.
Hope this helps.

Q

OCTraveler

09-26-05, 05:35

Quackup - nice "TJ trifecta" & glad the 411 was helpful. Also cool move tipping the bartender - most of the guys working there (except for the infamous red head) are just working guys who put up with a lot.

No doubt about it, HK is the place if you want a good time without crowds or attitudes. Key thing there is to play it straight to the bone - no "dirty gringo" crap and no "they're just *****s, so treat them like shit".

Take it from those of us who call HK our "numero uno" in the Zona, that the service in this place is pretty much like TJ used to be.

Country John

09-27-05, 07:18

No doubt about it, HK is the place if you want a good time without crowds or attitudes.

I agree. Closer to my retirement, I spent a lot of time at HK and Miami. I found myself liking it compared to other spots. Miami is a dance club where you can squeeze them for a buck every 3 minutes or so and HK is very cool for the shows.

One of my favs, "Salma" works at HK. You can't miss her, she wears the speckled two piece suit to the water line, speaks good english and creeps up on you from behind with the neck massage. A nice lady and a good session if you repeat and treat her nice.

Nice TR Quackup. I'd call it a better than average trip. You can run into a bad session even from a fav so don't be put off by noobies. When I got them, I made love to them, I didn't fuck them and it seemed to make a difference. YMMV.

Country John

JeanLuc

09-27-05, 09:14

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I had the opportunity to see Claudia, for my first time today. I had never seen her face before, and I honestly tell you that I was very impressed. She looked very classy and pretty, very nice and classy clothes, nice hair style, and as I said, I was very impressed with her face and total presentation.

I took Leslie's photos today, I think she has a great body. I will add better photos soon, I had difficulty with the sunlight outside, and couldn't see the LCD screen well enough to know that the picture lighting didn't turn out well (I'm not an expert with the digital camera yet, in outdoor lighting.

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QuackUp

09-28-05, 02:22

Oc, and Cj,

I had a great time, unfortunately I probably won't be down again for another month or so. Thanks for all the info. and recommendations. Oc, your picks have been right on the money. When I go back, I'll get the other blond girls name. Her service was excellent also.

Q

California Guy

09-28-05, 10:35

Any up for some fun :) send me a message here and we can meet up.

Be safe!

Cali

localbozo

09-28-05, 16:01

I was on my way back from the zona norte after a good time at AC and CC. When the taxi dropped me off at the border (Tuesday about midnight) there were two cops standing around with their thumbs up their ass. One said, "hey, where you going.'?" I replied that I am going home back to the U.S. They grabbed me and said put your hands against the wall.

They proceeded to do a thorough search of my pockets and legs and the fag even grabbed my dick asking if I had viagra. I had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING on me except my travel wallet with license and about $80 remaining. They then asked a bunch more questions about where I live and where I work and if I have any marijuana or other drugs on me. I was then instructed to take my shoes off where they searched also. The cop, much to my surprise, opened my wallet took out the money to look inside the pockets of the wallet, and then put all the cash back. He then asked me how many beers I had. I answered one (a big fat lie to that fuckfaced pig...more like six) and they told me to get out of here.

Are the cops that bored that they have to fuck with someone who is basically paying their salary. What would TJ be without American tourists? I'll tell you. It would be a civil war wasteland. They would have NO chance for survival. I wish there was someway to tell these pigs to fuck off but they know that we will continue to come there for the cheap pussy.

My solution is this. Take the bus back to the border. It drives right across with no hassel. Good luck to all of you staying safe.

LB

California Guy

09-29-05, 04:29

Where do you pick up the bus? I noticed it once but didn't know where to get on? I was heading down tonight, anyone interested?

Heyzeus

09-30-05, 04:46

Where do you pick up the bus? I noticed it once but didn't know where to get on? I was heading down tonight, anyone interested?http://www.mexicoach.com/

J Men

10-01-05, 22:40

I driving to TJ late this evening any recomdations on new places for mongers in town except for the usual places in the northside... Chicago, Adelitas , anything new? I havent been in 3 years

Feregio 1

10-02-05, 03:32

Can anyone give my a full stripjoint report of Tijuana?? Used to be my old stomping grounds. Haven't been in over 2 years. Need s full report. Enough with la coahuila. Need the high class stuff. Can Anyone help?

Thanks mongers.

Belgrath

10-02-05, 04:57

"Feregio 1 Can anyone give my a full stripjoint report of Tijuana?? Used to be my old stomping grounds. Haven't been in over 2 years. Need s full report. Enough with la coahuila. Need the high class stuff. Can Anyone help?

Thanks mongers.
Yesterday 21:40
J Men I driving to TJ late this evening any recomdations on new places for mongers in town except for the usual places in the northside... Chicago, Adelitas , anything new? I havent been in 3 years
09-30-05 03:46"

Improved pretty markedly over the past few months, there is like a 3 dollar beer cover on weekends but there are some pretty good ladies in there. You get alot of milage for a $1 with alot of the girls dancing on the bar counters, showers stage and if they like you.. for the $20 booths. They have things like shaving cream shows and about 1/2 the girls will even go to the hotel next door with you for like $50-70...

California Guy

10-04-05, 10:17

I found it amazing but I didn't think the strip clubs in TJ were any better than the good ones in the US! I mean they definitely have more contact but they know if they tease you then you will either buy more dances, $20 for like 2-3 songs if I recall, or you will take them up to a room. I though for $20 and a tip I would at least have some girl suck my nuts but that didn't happen, plus the time you get is really short. Then a big ladie comes knocking on the door for you to leave, lol. Anyway it still isn't bad but if you compare the quality of women as well to here in the US it isn't close. There are a couple lookers in the TJ strip clubs but the best girls aren't wasting their time dancing and are trying to get you in a room, don't blame them either.

Well that is my take on the strip clubs. It would be cool to find the worlds best strip clubs though. I would like to pay $40 for 5-7 songs and you get to play as much as you want :) At least you know if the girl will be fun and then you can take her into a room or something. Anyone know of this club I dream of? LOL okay probably not but it would be nice.

Wasobi

10-04-05, 16:28

I was wondering what was the name of the hotel you had with the jacuzzi suite and how far it was from the Zona Norte?

Thanks

Lascivious

10-05-05, 22:34

Wouldn't it take a very long time to get back across the border if you take the bus?

When I go the vehicle line is very long. Do the busses get a special lane?

It would be nice ot not have to deal with the policia at la linea.

Blue Nose

10-06-05, 00:39

Wasobi - Hotel Cascadas 2000 (right next to Miami / Hong Kong in the alley) does have jacuzzi suites, or at least they advertise them. Never been in one so I can't rally give you the scoop. That would bea bout your best bet in zona norte.

Cal Guy & Fergio 1 - would have to agree with Belgrath that the best strip club in the zone is Hong Kong. The places on Revolucion are, at best, hit and miss. At worst, they are complete rip offs. These places cater to tourists who are not really familiar with TJ and who think that the best of what TJ has to offer is on Revo. Very high pressure to buy drinks, buy the ladies drinks and go for dances. The Floor Manager will keep bringing girls over until you eventually accept one. Dances are better than in US, since more contact, but you won't really get any kind of service without a lot more money.

By contrast, Hong Kong is really low pressure - you don't have to buy anybody but yourself a drink. You can choose to tip the girls on stage or not and the private dances upstairs are around the same price - for $20 you can get a BBBJ with the right girl, something you won't get on Revo. As Belgrath pointed out, you can also take these girls to the Hotel, and many of them will go.

My advice, for what it is worth, is to stay away from the joints on Revo and stick with the zone. There are some really fancy clubs on Revo but I've never bothered since I figured it was just more of the same rip off. If you do go to one of these places, please post your report.

Cal Guy - the type of club you are looking for still exists in Eastern Europe (Russia, Czech Republic), but I've never heard of one like this in Mex and ceratinly not in TJ. You may want to check out the boards for Costa Rica, Columbia and Brazil, as these are places in Latin America that are more in line with what you are looking for. As for getting this service closer to home, you could always ask a HK girl if she'll do this for you in the hotel. Might cost a little more, but with the right one, it could be fun. Ask, and you shall receive, my friend. Don't forget to negotiate!

Blue Nose

Blue Nose

10-06-05, 00:49

Yes, you can take a bus both to and from TJ. Bus stops at the main parking lots at designated times in the afternoon on the US side. Going south, the bus stops for 10 seconds while a customs officer gets on and does a cursory glance.

The bus depot is one block east of Revolucion. Walking north towards the arch along Revolucion, you will take a right at the arch and follow signs for the pedestrian path to border. At the next intersection, cross the street and the bus terminal will be directly on your right. Hard to tell it's a bus terminal since the buses are not really visible from the street. The TJ bus will both drop you off and pick you up here (can also catch buses to other parts of Mexico here).

Going back, the bus has a special lane at the border (the far right hand lane). Buses line up and when they are done with the previous bus, US Customs lets the next bus through. At that point, you disembark taking all your stuff with you, walk inside and through a special line at US Customs (designated for bus travellers). After that, you can either re-board the bus or just walk.

Although there is a special bus lane, it can take as much time to drive on a bus as to walk since there may be a lot of other buses in front of you. From what I can tell, it is much faster to cross by bus than to drive and generally about the same as walking. When there is a long line of pedestrians, the bus drivers call out to people, and they can get on for $1 (to save time).

Don't know if crossing by bus at night is safer with respect to Mexican Policia. For one thing, you have to get from the zone to the bus depot and you should not walk this at night, especially alone, and especially if you're a newbie. Why not just take the taxi to the border and have the driver drop you in a well lighted area, away from the cops? For an extra $1 tip and the words "no policia" to the driver, he will know where to drop you. I think the trick in TJ at night is to avoid being in places that are dark and off the beaten path. If you're in a well lit, well travelled area, the cops will generally leave you alone.

Blue Nose

John Rain

10-07-05, 05:07

Longtime lurker, first post. My first trip to Tijuana was to AB was about three years ago. I've got some tales to tell, but for this post I'll start with a trip report from this past Saturday and Sunday, October 1-2.

I left home about 10:20 am from Orange County. My last trip was about a month ago and I'm anxious to get an early start. Traffic was lighter than usual. I arrive at the Ueno parking lot about noon, move my wallet to my front pocket for safekeeping, and trek across the border. I take a right over to the pharmacy where I purchase a Cialis, then hop in a cab and tell the driver to take me to "El Arco Grande," the big arch on Revolution. The driver asks if I am looking for some fun, and I head him off by saying that I'm meeting some friends at the arch. This is a lie designed to avoid the massage parlor bullshit that most of the taxi drivers suggest. I pay him $5 when we arrive.

Ah, wonderful, filthy, stinking Tijuana! I walk down Ave. Primera and turn right on Constitution. One of my regulars, Monica, is standing by the first store down the hill. Monica is getting fat. She was hot about a year ago when she was working down the far end of the alley. I met her than as a friend of Wendy who is a longtime favorite of mine. Anyway, Monica is light-skinned and has short dark brown, reddish hair. Today it is pulled back tight. She has a pretty face with fine features and always dresses sharp. She's been telling me that she's my novia, mostly as an attempt to monopolize my attention (money). We greet each other and then she asks me why I am here. The answer she wants is for me to say I am here for her. Of course won't say this and tell her the truth instead—I'm here for fun. She says we should go to the hotel and I explain that I've just arrived and don't have a hotel yet. She already knows this since I am carrying my backpack. So I tell her I'll be back "mas tarde" and continue to head down the hill.

I see another favorite, Carola, who is a real cutie and looks to me as about the youngest girl working this side of the street. She has very short dark brown hair pulled into pigtails today. She is wearing a school girl outfit today and is totally hot. I've been with her three times and highly recommend her. Her face has an impish grin as we pass and say hola. She just finished some lucky guy and is walking back to her usual post near the top of the hill.

I smile at several girls along the way and say hello to Andrea. Andrea is petite with dark shoulder length hair. She use to wear a hair piece with tight little braids, but is now wearing her hair brushed out and has added some red coloring to it. She was pissy to me the last couple of times I was here because I haven't taken her to "the room" lately. She says hola as do I, but I don't stop.

Before I reach the police station, I can see my absolute favorite, Rosio across the street standing in the alley. Rosio is beautiful. Very petite, dark-skinned with very long straight black hair. She always dresses very sharp. She breaks a great big smile and I cross the street to greet her. I grab her hand and lean up against her. I consider her a friend and I always spend time with her. We chat for about ten minutes, then I tell her I want a half-hour with her, but first I need to walk down the alley and say hello to some other girls. She's the only girl that doesn't give me shit about seeing other girls. I always share my exploits honestly with her.

A little further down the alley is Paola. Paola used to work in front of Hotel Eduardo until about a year ago when she decided to lose some weight and upgrade her clothes. Now she stands in front of the closed Monaco Bar. (This bar is being remodeled and should open next month as Bar Corral. It will include a small hotel. They now have a sign up asking for workers.) Anyway, I've always liked her and stop to say hello. Her skin is dark with features that look a bit more mexican-indian than most of the working girls. She has thick lips and dark, shoulder length hair. I assume she's in her late 20's. She's relaxed and comfortable to be with and I'll definitely be seeing her later.

Further down the alley is Norma. Norma is not pretty. Her face has sort of a narrow, pinched look to it. She wears her short, light brown hair pulled back tightly and always has lacy see-through pants, either white or light blue. She wears too much light blue eye shadow. She is very slender with a strong, tight body and a great little round butt. I first had her early one morning when the pickings were rather slim. She is a pro at getting just the right angle and vigorously fucking. She is also slender enough that you can easily straddle her while she is laying flat face-down. She started out with a tough, defensive personality, but has become less guarded over time. We say hello and she asks me to buy her a "Rrred Buull." I do so and then move along.

I walk past Hotel Cascades and Miami and Hong Kong and then the Tortilleria. Near the end of the alley, I approach the group of girls that work out of the blue-painted hotel that has no sign. This is a famous place for me since one of my favorites, Wendy works out of this "hotel." Wendy has been on vacation in Veracruz for several months. I always stop by to see if she has returned. The girls all know me and right away tell me that Wendy is still gone.

Jacquelyn asks me to buy her an agua. Her English is poor, as is my Spanish. I pretend to not understand and let her struggle to explain it to me a few times. She catches on that I'm faking and hits me. I agree to buy her a water and her friend asks for one as well. (I've seen her friend here many times but never met her. Her name is Carla and she has a very pretty face and slender body. More about her later.) We step down into the store that they stand next to and the chicas take about five minutes trying to decide which bottles of water are the coldest. I pay 50 cents for each bottle and the girls are pleased and thank me. Jacquelyn is a very small, light-skinned, brunette and usually wears a school girl outfit. She looks older, maybe thirty. Last time I was here she was actually sitting in a chair on the sidewalk. When I asked her how come she got to sit in a chair while no other girl on the whole street could do this, she reply that she is "La Jefa." Last time I was with her, I told her I was too tired to fuck and she gave me an excellent CBJ for $20. By the way, the room rental here is just $3.

That brings me to the end of the alley. So, I circle back up the other side and when I reach Rosio we cross the street to get a room for half an hour.

Rosio and I get a room at the hotel at the top end of the alley. She's a gorgeous Latina and a real sweet girl as well. As always, I brought her a small box of mint chocolates that she likes and can't get in Tijuana. I show her some photos from a recent vacation. We hug and caress and she undresses. We talk and caress for another ten minutes and then she puts a condom on Mr. Happy. See gives a great CBJ, really great. Then we have sex. She's so tiny and so beautiful that it's always very nice. She's great in any position but I haven't been with her for a month so I finish quickly on top. We spend the remaining time holding each other and talking. The half hour is up and I pay her $60.

I find many of the street girls to be great once they know you'll treat them well. If you think about it, their job is terribly boring and very depersonalizing. The friends around them are their competition and many men treat them poorly. Yes, I've encountered some mean bitches, but there are more than a few gems to found here.

I circle the block again just for the pure pleasure of the eye candy and then stop at Hotel Mini to see if they have a room available. Hotel Mini is a very small hotel in the alley, it's the place with the long brick corridor. They do have a room but tell me that checkout will have to be at 10 am since they are already full for Sunday night. I decline and head down Constitution to Hotel Leyva.

Hotel Leyva is just past Chicago Club and is half motel, half residential hotel. I spent a lot of time there a few years ago when a previous novia was living there for several months. I get a room without a TV for 190 pesos plus 20 pesos key deposit. I head up to room 40 on the second floor. It's clean, at least cleaner than those filthy rooms at Hotel Cascades, and has a comfortable bed, a dresser, and a large shower. I unpack most of my backpack and head out back up the hill on Constitution to meet with Monica.

Monica's not at her normal location but as I turn around I see her running up the hill after me. We turn right back around and vamos for Hotel Leyva. We get to the room and I push her down on the bed with mock roughness. I straddle her and start kissing her all over and sucking on her neck and ears. She's laughing and trying to push me off and telling me to stop, but I just continue all the more. After a couple minutes she's out of breath from laughing and I relent for a moment. She's thrilled with all the attention but pretends to flustered and embarrassed. She quickly undresses and we start all over again. We slow down and kiss softly for another ten minutes and then make love. She's a gotten heavy and not as good at sex as she was a year ago, but I still enjoy her very much.

Monica and I finish and then rest for half an hour, occasionally kissing. We shower and I give her $80 and walk her back up the hill. We get to her spot and agree to meet for an early lunch Sunday morning. I continue up the hill and turn up Primera for a quick stop at El Fracaso Bar.

El Fracaso is a total dump. It's always hot and filled with low-end locals looking to get drunk and get $1 dances from the girls. The bar is not busy and I don't see any prospects so after circling the room I cross over to the far side of Constitution and head back down the hill. Nothing interesting on this side of the street.

I hit Miami Bar where I see Kimmy trying to trap some poor tourist. Nothing but the usual Gorditas in the bar so I walk through to Hong Kong Bar. They are just finishing up the shaving cream show. I am standing off to the side watching when one of the creamed girls comes off the stage and asks me for a dollar. I take out a dollar and she opens her bikini bottom, I push my fingers through the cream, feel her bushy hair, and leave the dollar there. I take a seat at the stage and order a mineral water.

I sit back and enjoy the show. The shaving cream girls climb up into the shower cage. This place is simply great. While I'm looking at them another girl manages somehow to flip around in front of me while I'm seated and plant herself in my lap face-to-face. I'm a bit startled. She asks for a dollar and pulls her tits out and grabs my head down into them. I give her a dollar and she leaves. I continue watching the show for another hour or more and then head up the street to find Paola.

Paola works out of Hotel Mini and is standing in front of the soon-to-be-opened Bar Corral. I ask her if she would like to spend some time with me. I say I would like half an hour. We start down the corridor of Hotel Mini and then she asks what hotel I'm staying at. I tell her Leyva and she says we should go there for more time. Sounds good to me, so we head to Leyva. We've been together many times and are very comfortable with each other.

Once at Leyva, Paola takes her top off and kneels upright on the bed. I'm standing facing her and we very slowly kiss and feel each other all over for a long time. We undress and lay down next to each other hugging and groping. I give her a rubber and she gives me a slow CBJ with her head resting on my stomach. We do missionary and then perrito, but I can't finish (she's the third today). We fall asleep for two hours and wake up grinning at each other. She's a sweetheart. I give her $80 and she heads home. I shower and take a Cialis for Mr. Happy.

To be continued…

John Rain

10-07-05, 06:23

Continued…

I briefly make the rounds hitting Adelitas, Chevelas, Topical. Inside Topical there is a great-looking girl with very large breasts sitting and waiting for someone to choose her. I consider her and move closer. She ignores me, so I figure I don't need the attitude and I leave Tropical and head backup the alley. I stop again at Miami and again it's full of Gorditas. I walk through Valentino Bar and see nothing.

Outside of Valentino is another favorite street girl, Bela. Bela is pretty with a face that reminds me of Michelle Pfeiffer—wide face with great big eyes, long lashes and strong cheek bones. She has light brown, bushy, curly hair with blonde highlights which is usually in pigtails. She also has the most gorgeous heart-shaped smile that's worth the price of admission alone. She sees me and flashes that smile, melting my heart. Mr. Happy says we should say hello to her. She's playing with a load of chewing gum. Don't know what is so compelling about that damn gum but the street girls all seem to love playing with it. I say hello and she smiles again and motions her head over to the hotel entrance. I pretend like I'm going to grab her tits and she scolds me. Her breasts are very sensitive and strictly off limits. I did convince her once to let me gently lick them, which I consider a career high point in my negotiating skills. But for now I'm going to pass her up.

I circle around the block again and stop at Hotel Cascades to see if my friend Areli is working. She always stands in front of Cascades. Areli is a dark haired beauty with nice soft curves. She has a round face and thin lips. Her hair is black, parted in the middle, and shorter than shoulder length. She is surprisingly strong and I highly recommend her. I don't see her tonight, but another girl Lorena see me and waves at me. She tells me right away that Areli isn't working tonight. I say I don't believe her and she swears it's true, that Areli is on vacation. She is very animated and friendly towards me. I am pleased, as last time I made Lorena cry.

Lorena looks nice—another brunette with a round face, young but a bit overweight. Tonight her hair is done in fancy squares with little red beads. She's wearing a new school girl uniform. I met her last month, again, while waiting for my dear Areli in front of Cascades. At that time I asked her how business was and she said it was bad. That night she said she had only done one man. I told her I was surprised since she was pretty. I suggested that maybe there were some "problemas." She asked me what "problemas" and I suggested that maybe she was not very good. She protested strongly and I told her I would like to go to the room with her to see if she was good or not. We agreed on $25 dollars for mucho bueno sucky.

[Last month] Lorena and I headed into Cascades but they were tight on rooms and decided to open a Jacuzzi room for us. We get in the room and I take out $25 and Lorena says $20 mas dinero. I was shocked because we clearly agreed on $25 beforehand. We argue back and forth and I tell her this is a big "problema" and that I will pay her nothing but will take her back to the reception desk to complain. She is surprised at this and immediately agrees to the $25 sucky. I lay on the bed and she starts, but is rough with the teeth. I say 'ow' a few times and then stop her. I tell her she is no bueno at sucky. She doesn't seem to understand, so I take her finger in my mouth and bite down on it a few times. She gets the idea. She starts again and I stop her again. Now she tries sucky by just clamping down on me. I stop her again. She is getting upset. I take her finger again and show her what I expect. She tries again but is just terrible. I stop her, tell her she is "no bueno." Unbelievably, she actually starts to cry and tells me that she hasn't been in Tijuana very long and that she doesn't know how to do good sex. She's crying and rambling in English and Spanish. I put my hand over her mouth to stop her from talking and pull her on top of me. She keeps trying to explain. I cover her mouth again and pull her head into my chest and rock her like a little kid. Meanwhile, it's been more than 20 minutes, but since we're in a Jacuzzi room I guess they have forgotten about us, as a knock on the door never comes. We lay there another ten minutes or so with me just holding her. She calms down. We get dressed, and leave. Unbelievable, but an absolutely true event.

Anyway, tonight I'm not going to spend time with Lorena. I'm starting to have a headache. I suppose it's from the Cialis. This is only the second time I've tried it, the first time was no problem. I walk over to La Gloria Bar which is on Constitution very near to the corner of Coahuila Street. This is locals bar which is a bit better than El Fracaso. There are many street girls freelancing here, that is to say, they don't work for the bar and there is no hotel attached to the bar. The street girls will dance with you for a dollar and the bar rebates some money back to the girls when you buy a drink for them. They mess with actual fiches. It's not uncommon to be the only American in here. I walk around a bit, it's real hot and I start to feel worse. I decide to head back to Leyva and get some sleep. I wake about 2 am but still feel crappy and decide to sleep through the night.

I wake at about 7:45 am and shower and shave. I head down Constitution then over to the alley to pick up Rosio for a morning session. It's 8:15. I get some orange juice at the tienda Rosio stands in front of she gets a yogurt and we walk over to Leyva for an hour session. We spend most of the time talking, I describe my latest exploits to her and then she gives me a great CBJ. I have to stop the CBJ before Mr. Happy lets it go, rest a minute, and we then have sex with me on top. I can only hold for out about ten minutes. We lay there with her talking about whatever with me agreeing and playing with her dark chocolate nipples. She's great. I walk her back and circle the block twice, say good morning to Norma, and walk up the hill to see if Monica is around yet. It's 10:30. Monica is there. We get a taxi and go to Sanborn's down at the far end of Revolution.

Sanborn's Restaurant has good food at fair prices. Monica loves the attention and pampering. She can pretend to be respectable and escape from her world for a little while. She dressed in nice jeans and shirt with very modest makeup this morning. The restaurant is about half full with middle class locals and a few tourists. I order some tamales pollo with salsa verde and she gets a salad with tuna. It's very tasty and the total is less than 200 pesos. We grab a Taxi Libre back to Hotel Leyva.

It's after 12, so I leave Monica in the room and run down to the office to pay for another day. We play around for a while and then fall asleep together, bellies full. We wake up around 2 pm. Monica needs to get to work so to speak. I pay her and I walk her back.

I decide to head to Adelitas Bar. When I first started going to Tijuana I spend all my time here, but once I got to know the alley I don't go to AB much. I walk past hottie central and move to the far back corner when a chubby brunette catches my eye. She smiles at me and waves me over. Now had she been standing up, I would have pasted her by as too heavy. But her face was pretty and something just clicked. I sit down and she snuggles up against me right away. Her name is Marisol. I agree to buy her a drink and she starts rubbing my leg. She is wearing a loose linen shirt with no bra and pulls the shirt forward to show me an ample breast. She starts squeezing Mr. Happy and I start playing with her nipples which swell hard. I buy another drink. She asks if I want to go to the room, while Mr. Happy is screaming "Si, si!" I quiz he on what might transpire were we to go to "the room." She firmly grabs Mr. Happy and asks if I like kisses here. She then says I will love her so much that I will call out her name: M~~~. But she messes up and says her real name rather than the fake name "Marisol" which she told me earlier. She realizes, I realize and we both laugh. She explains that her real name is M~~~, but here she uses Marisol. We head up to the room.

In the room she is passionate! We deep kiss and fondle and grope. I am hopping around trying to keep kissing and remove my pants at the same time. We move to the bed and try to consume each other. I start DATY and she is groaning and panting and grinding my face into her. I have to stop her a couple times to catch my breath. No, I can't breathe through my ears. Technically, I suppose she could be faking but it sure seemed real to me. After she comes, we start kissing all over again. Then she hops on top of me and starts riding. The dreaded knock on the door happens. She yells something at the guy, gets off me, and starts working me with her hand in a panic. This is too good to end so soon.

I tell Marisol "mas tiempo" and she says "Si, si quiero." She screams out the door for the ranchero and I give her money for the room. I lay down and she gets on top again and bucks up and down and back and forth. After about ten minutes she gets off and finishes me with a fantastic sloppy, wet CBJ. Yow! It was great. She pulls off my rubber and ties it off. she looks around the room for the basura, but there is none. She hurls the sperm bomb into the corner. I make a mental note to be sure to tip the mop boy. We spend the remaining minutes caressing and laughing. I gave her $100 for the double session.

She heads back into the bar and I walk down to Constitution and turn at the alley. My friend Rosio is standing there. I collapse against the wall next to her with a stupid grin on my face. She says "mucho consado?" and I tell her about Marisol. I buy Rosio and myself a soda and we talk for a bit. I walk down to Hong Kong to rest. Nothing much happens while I sit there in a daze with a mineral water. Half an hour later I walk out, take a right and see Carla that I met the day before.

Carla has just come out for the day and says "hola." She takes a black makeup pencil and draws a thick black line around her lips. I stand there like an idiot staring at her beautiful face. She takes out a lipstick and fills in her lips. When she is done she asks if I want to go to the room. I'm still too tired but Mr. Happy says "vamos." I pay $3 for the room and we lay on the bed. This is the first time I've been with her. We lay down next to each other fully clothed and talk. I tell her is very so beautiful and she thanks me. We ask each other questions while I grope her. She stops me from playing with her boobs, but lets me kiss her neck and ears and face. No, I didn't have sex with her. I count this as a $20 investment in a future novia. The time is up and we leave the room.

Walking out, the girls outside start giving me shit because they know that Wendy is my regular and I shouldn't cheat on her. I look further and see Lorena (a different Lorena than last night). she up to some kind of mischief. I walk over to see what see is doing. She is wrapping some thread onto a rolled up piece of cardboard. She keeps giggling and then shows me a small plastic rat. She asks me to hold the rat while she ties the thread around its neck. Her idea is to put the plastic rat on the sidewalk and then pull the thread when someone walks near it. She is so pleased with herself that she can't stop giggling. It doesn't really work that well and a few passersby give her strange looks as she pulls the rat in front of them. But she is delighted and even the girls across the street are laughing. Like I said before, these girls are bored, be nice to them and they'll spend extra time with you.

This Lorena is petite with a strong Latina look: dark skin, dark hair, pretty face, and nice little body. At a glance she looks like a teen, but is in her earlier 20's. She has dark gleaming eyes and a smile with several dimples. I've only been with her twice, but would definitely recommend her.

Well, it's about 5 p.m. and I have to work Monday, so I head back to Leyva, pack up, and take a taxi to the border. It's been a great trip.

Dripper

10-08-05, 18:24

I posted this in the USA guide San Diego page, but I thought it might be more appropriate here. While surfing through CL, I hit on an ad for an upscale Baja set of providers, who have positioned themselves to cater to a different appetite than the standard TJ fare. Have been to TJ and love the sleaze and nasty factor, but sometimes would also like to have a more refined experience, and that what's these ladies say they offer. They have a nice place on the beach in Baja, and from my conversation with one of them, Kamala (who does have favorable reviews), they seem cool, professional and customer-service oriented. I know that budget is an important consideration for TJ, and these ladies while cheaper than in the US, are pricier than the Zona. I haven't been there yet, and I have absolutely no interest in their success or failure (other than I wish enterprising and nice people success). They apparently offer everything from soup to nuts, and will pick up at the border etc. If any one is interested, PM me for contact info.

Dripper

Boeing1048

10-09-05, 00:42

Great Report Mike 123 You Got To Love Tj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

California Guy

10-09-05, 22:34

First, I am not sure what Dripper is all about but it sure sounds like advertising. I mean you have one post on these boards and it is to talk about some upscale girls on CL? I don't buy it and I personally hope your post is removed.

Second, Mike that was great detail in your report but why are you paying street girls $80? Are you talking Pesos? I have never had a girl ask for more than 30 on the street and 60 at AB so I am confused on this.

Okay well anyway I wanted to post my report for last Wed. night Oct 5. I headed down to TJ and parked around midnight. I took the taxi over to Hong Kong and got in time for the lesbian show. As I was in the taxi I got to view a lot of the girls on the street and I wasn't very impressed. This is only my 4th time down for some action and it seems like the quality is going down. Well I just thought I would point this out and see if anyone else has the same thoughts. In the HK club it was fun but the talent here wasn't very good. The one girl in the lesbian show was a solid 8 but that was tops tonight as I viewed maybe a couple others that were 7's and the rest were 6's and far below! I would have rathered jerked off than screwed some of these girls and having 3 beers didn't help either. Still the place is lively and can sit in front of the hotest girls and at least rub some titty and pussy. One girl however was a big ***** and wouldn't let anyone in the bar to even grab her tits, lol, I was laughing and wondering why she was there. Oh and the one 8 girl was with some guy upstairs who was buying her those half beers for seven bucks so I dont blame her for not leaving him :)

Finally it was around 3 am and I was getting tired so I grabbed one of the girls I would say was a 6 and headed up to the hotel. Her face was like a 5 but her body was an pretty good so I averaged her out :) as you can see I give honest ratings and it is very hard to reach the 8-9+ stages with me and there is no such thing as a ten. Back to my girl, we agreed on the 60 for half and hour and that included the fucky sucky action. This was my first time in the hotel next to the HK and it was actually decent! Even the guys who cleaned were mellow but I stilled tipped a buck since they didn't ask and I respect that more. Anyway this girl was pretty cool as well and very petite so it was fun. She kissed me for a few minutes and then got undressed. Pulled out a condom and started sucking, very bad CBJ so after a couple minutes I just grabbed and pulled her on top. She had to lube up and I can't stand that personally but I know most girls need it, still does anyone know of girls there that don't do this???? On my first trip to TJ a few months back I met this little street girl and she was just wet! It was hot because the lube just turns me off a little so it makes it better for me overall. Okay a little sidetrack, she got on top and started riding me. Then she pulled me over after about 5 minutes and I started doing her missionary. Another 5 and I did her doggy and finished after a good 15-20 overall session. It wasn't bad but she wasn't the best by any means. We washed up, got dressed, and we both went back into the club for few minutes. I was really beat now so I just took a taxi back. I was dropped off so I walked across the bridge seeing people were having problems with policia. It was chill but then again it was also 4am on a wed.

I think I will go back this coming Wed or Thurs again and go to AB because I would like to find some different style girls than the ones I see at HK or on the streets. I know the first time I went to AB it looked like a few girls were from other countries so you had some variety, or girls were just a little different.

Jimbo 2

10-10-05, 08:39

Went down to TJ, first I hit Hong Kong since I've never been there, but it just seemed like a bar w/ girls stripping so I decided to hit the streets.

I chose a girl who seemed to have a great attitude but boy was I wrong, 40 dollars later I went to Adelitas.

Place was pretty packed but this blonde chick sits next to me. she was pretty smoking about a 9 and had a great personality, she starts touching me and snuggling, so I buy her a drink to "test out the waters".

So we finally go up and she says I seem tense so she massages me w/ oil for a good long time and I start to think I hope she doesnt want extra to boink.

But finally she stops and starts doing a blow job (one of the best ones I've ever received) then she gets on top, while I usually enjoy that most i had the best time being on top, call it great acting or she really enjoyed it but who cares! her facial expressions seemed that of pure pleasure, I got tired so we just cuddle while she tries to give me a hand job and then finally that dreaded knock on the door, i was having such a great time w/ her I pay 11 more for the room for another half hr and her 40 bucks totally worth it.

Once again she gives me a blowjob and I finally finish off w/ doggy style.

By that time we're both sweating and she thanks me and seemed pleased (again prob could be great acting but who cares) she says she's too tired and will call it a night.

She was the best experience for attitude that I've had down in TJ and the best overall experience/sex I've had ever.

Too bad I can't remember her name but hopefully I'll see her again one of these days.

Mario-X

10-15-05, 04:44

Blue Nose

10-15-05, 20:44

Was in TJ last weekend for a quick one day trip. Spent the first part of the afternoon in ABs. Was still a bit early for there to be too many chicas, but I was having a good time just relaxing with a few beers and soaking up the atmosphere and all the pretty chicas.

Some guys like to get in and get out of TJ quickly right after they have a pop or two. To them, TJ has no redeeming qualities except legal P4P. Myself, I'm a lingerer. I like to take the place at face value: chat with the girls, practice my Spanish, enjoy the show and of course have a few beers, more often than not with one of the locals (who are usually very friendly). More than just a place to get laid, TJ has become a place for me to relax. When I'm by myself at the bar at AB nursing a Corona and surrounded by beautiful, scantily-clad Latinas, I find it is a good point for me to pause and reflect on my life North of the Border. The clarity of mind is a welcome change from the daily routine of my life.

Anyway, back to the story. I blew off the first few chicas who came by and wanted a ficha, but then two fairly hot looking girls came and sat beside me. The one I bought the drink for was from Veracruz, but for the life of me I cannot remember her name. Been in TJ for only 2 weeks, or so she said. Anyway, after the first drink we proceeded with the negotiations. She asked for $60 and I countered with $50 to which she readily agreed. Upstairs we went and into a room right across the hall from the office (a little too open for my liking). Anyway, she started with a shower for herself while I got undressed. Then she emerged, still kind of wet and proceeded with a very nice partially covered BJ. It was great to be back in town after being absent for a while!

Next, she starts to run her large breasts all over my body, paying particular attention to my prick. Next thing I know, she's got my member wrapped up between her tits like a hot dog! It was great and I was loving it. Soooo, instead of the usual, I decided to try something a little different. Instead of having her wrap me up and mount me, I told her to keep going. When I felt myself getting close, I flipped her over and then continued with me on top. She asked me if I wanted to finish like this, and I told her yes. She kind of covered her face as I kept pounding away. The sight of my rod sandwiched between her tits was more than I could bear and I busted all over her tits and neck. Afterwards, I helped her clean up and she had another shower.

I know, I know - I shouldn't pay $50 for this when a SG will do it for $20 but it was one of those things that I didn't really plan on doing. And it just felt so right at the time. Anyway, a good experience, and I would recommend the girl (if I could remember her name).

After this, it was over to HK. Salma pounced on me as soon as I walked in the door and had a bunch of questions for me. Apparently, Country John had relayed the entire story about he and I "sharing" a novia in the zone. Salma (who you will recall from CJ's earlier posts met our novia in a restaurant under less than ideal circumstances) was all over me about this. So, I did what came naturally to me when one woman I like having sex with confronts me about having sex with other women: I Denied Everything. Yup, that's right, before I knew what I was doing or saying, I just denied, denied and denied. I told her that it wasn't true. Not sure why I did this - we were in the zone, after all, and it's no secret why we go there. But there I was, lying through my teeth. Well, maybe I just didn't want to get into it with her.

What I was into, however, was going upstairs with Salma. And after 2 fichas we went up for a session. Good ol Salma is as close to a sure thing as I'm ever likely to get in the zone. Very nice BBBJ and then several postions until completion. She's a sweet girl, so treat her nicely if you see her at HK / Miami. Just don't tell her the truth about me (wink).

Senor Blue

Blue Nose

10-15-05, 20:51

Nope, I think that what Dripper is reporting is legit. It might be advertising, but it checks out. These girls do operate out of a beach condo a little south of the border (Rosarito area I think). They advertise on CL and have been reviewed on some other boards. (I regularly review, CL, *** and trrothsayer so I try to keep up to date on these things, even if I don't usually partake).

Service is supposed to be pretty good, but pricey for what we are used to paying in TJ. If anybody does decide to check this out, please post so that we can all read about it. If memory serves, they charge $150 per hour, which is more than I usually pay for a TLN sesion in TJ, so the service had better be damn good for those rates.

Also remember reading a while back about the 3 girl deal for $69 for two hours. This also appears to be legit as they are advertising it on the CL. In fact, the next session is today at 6pm - check the CL if you're interested.

Blue Nose

Country John

10-17-05, 08:55

Does anyone know what has happened to "the famous one," Tania of AB? She had a website for private appointments, but it seems to have dropped off the web. Has she retired? If anyone knows her current website or email, please post it.

Mario, Tania is in Mexico City right now. She's been out of town for the past several weeks and my spies are not exactly sure when she'll get back to town. PM your email address and I'll pass it on to her. I'm not pimping her but I am not sure if she wants me to post her email address on the boards.

Senior Blue...........jeeeeez, now I'm in deep shit. I'm glad you sessioned Salma and yes, she is hot in the room; always a sure bet and a great session. I know she's been looking for me but I've not been to the Zona for about a month and have no plans to return any time soon. I'm in my apartment in TJ every weekend.

Country John

John Rain

10-19-05, 04:40

There is a new bar open in Coahuila Alley: Bar El Corral. I went down to TJ on Sunday and wandered down to the alley where I saw the bar had opened.

My SW friend Paola was in her usual spot outside of this bar. (As a reminder, this is at the site of the long-closed Monaco Bar near the Northeast corner of the alley. It is walled with orange tiles.) I greet Paola and ask her about the new bar and whether there are any pretty chicas working here. She tells of course not. I asked why not and she replies "Corral es por vacas." I don't know much Spanish and ask her what "vacas" means. She responds by making a mooing sound—cows! Very funny.

There is also a small hotel attached to the bar. Paola tells me the name is Hotel El Porton. There is no sign outside. I don't know if they rent rooms to mongers. Paola says that it is expensive, $12 for a half hour and $24 for an hour. She is using this hotel to keep backpack and belongings during the day, but is taking customers to her usual place, Hotel Mini, which is less expensive.

Later that afternoon, I returned to check out the bar. So, it's Sunday at about 3:30 p.m., certainly a bit early for much of anything in the Zona Norte, but I venture inside. Everything is new and clean. To the left are three table dance booths. To the right is the DJ booth, a changing room for the Bar Girls, and a raised shower stage with clear plastic walls.

The waiter tells me (as they always do) that a show is just about to start. It's a small bar with a single center stage raised a couple inches off the floor featuring the standard brass pole. It's surrounded by tables with bench seats which I prefer. I look around and notice that I'm the only American here. There are about a dozen locals including one couple. One drunk is sleeping. I don't see any girls.

The waiter comes by and I order an agua mineral, as it's too early for beer. The waiter returns with a plastic cup with a few cubes and a plastic bottle of warm mineral water. I pay him $2 and $1 tip. He leaves and I open the bottle spraying myself with water. There are no napkins, so I sit there for a few minutes, pissed. The waiter notices and cleans up. A new song starts and a girl comes out to dance.

Did I say girl? No, I think Paola was right, this is a vaca. Actually, she is pretty but big, very big. Okay fat, really fat. She is brunette with very long, curly hair and is wearing a skirt that stops half way down her ass. Her breasts are enormous. She dances one song and then stands to the side patting her forehead with napkins during the second song. She steps back onto the stage for the third song and removes her bra and skirt. I take out $1 and she comes over. I lift one breast and place the dollar under it and let the large breast drop down suffocating it. She laughs. She gets a few tips from others and then drops to the floor and starts rolling around. She removes her G-string and makes sure I have a clear view of her. I take out another $1 holding it my hand which is resting in my lap. She sees it and comes over to me crawling on all fours. She takes the dollar into her mouth and then spits it aside. Then she takes my whole thumb into her mouth and starts sucking it. Nice.
She finishes dancing and goes to change. I figure that when she returns she will want me to buy a fiche and I'm not really interested. I still haven't seen any other girls here, so I decide to leave.

Conclusion, this is a third rate bar and will take some time to develop, if ever. Of course, Friday or Saturday night could be a different story.

Country John

10-19-05, 17:24

Thanks for the report. Finally opened the place eh? They've spent a lot of time on it. Funny thing your girl said.

Country John

Roc27

10-19-05, 19:18

Blue Nose

10-22-05, 01:44

I was just wondering if any of the girls at Hong Kong bar speak any english at all. The few times I have been there the girls I met spoke zero English at all. Also, how do you know which ones will go to the hotel with you because it seems most of them are there just dancing.

Some do, some don't. It all depends, really. The best place to find a girl who can speak English, I have found, is AB. However, their speaking English does not necessarily translate into you having a better time with them upstairs.

To find out if a girl will go upstairs, just ask. That is the only way to know for sure. If they don't go, they won't be insulted that you asked - everybody knows what goes on in the zone. Once you ask one and are turned down, you will find that others come up to you with the offer to go upstairs - this is because the girls who don't go tells the girls who do go that you are a potential client.

Blue Nose

John Rain

10-23-05, 01:30

My latest trip to TJ was on Sunday, October 16th. I left home about 11:00 a.m. from Orange County, California and arrived at the Ueno parking lot about 12:30 p.m. The traffic was especially light, I suppose since it was raining in South Orange County most folks stayed home. It wasn't raining in San Diego or at the border. Both sides of the border have been undergoing construction for a long time and a new section of sidewalk was open on the US side showing a depiction of the California-Mexico coastline and the locations of all the old missions. Undoubtedly, our "homeland security" dollars hard at work here. The Mexican side is also being spruced up. This time there was a female policewoman at the Mexico checkpoint and she made me press the "pass or go" stoplight button, which provides for random checks of those crossing over. In three years, this is only the second time I have had to do this. Fortunately, the green "Pase" light came on. I had a backpack with me with nothing inside to worry about, but who wants the hassle?

I stop at the Farmacia and pick up a vitamin V for Mr. Happy, hop in a cab and get dropped at the Arch. I walk down Primera, turn at Constitution, and greet my friend Monica. I chat for a bit and tell her I'll see her later and continue down the hill. Since it's cool and overcast, there aren't a lot of girls around. I cross over to the alley and don't see my favorite, Rosio, but stop and chat with Paola about the new Bar El Corral. I continue down the block but still few girls around. I head back to Hotel Mini, get a room, and then see Rosio standing at the corner. She's beautiful as usual. After ten minutes of chatting I head down to Miami Bar.

It's about 1:30 p.m. and there aren't many girls in Miami, so I cross over to Hong Kong Bar and see Salma with some guys at the far end of the stage. We glance at each other, I take a seat near the top of the stage, order a mineral water, and relax. After a short while, Salma disappears with her guy, so I know I'll have at least a 30 minute wait for her return. An older gal is giving a topless table dance to some lucky guy seated in the back of the bar and I stare shamelessly at her, enjoying the free show, which at the moment is more interesting than the not so hot girl dancing on stage. After a few songs, she plops down on the stool next to me at the stage. She looks old and tired up close. She asks me to buy her a drink and I decline. She pulls out her tits and rubs them against me and asks for a dollar. Fair enough, I give her a slow, gentle squeeze on each nipple and then fish a dollar out of my pocket. She leaves. Behind me is a tiny little blond chica just as pretty as can be cuddled up against some fat American. She as a pierced lower lip. Her legs are up on the booth seat and her bikini bottom is visible below her tight little dress. Hong Kong is a great place to spend time!

Eventually, some arms reach around me from behind and Salma gives me a kiss on the cheek. I suggest we take a seat over in Miami Bar, where it is nearly empty and a bit quieter. I've known Salma for maybe two years, but not very well. While I've only been with her a few times, the experience has always been remarkable. She is about as sweet a girl as you'll ever meet in TJ. I order a couple of drinks and we hug and grope and chat. A photographer comes by and I get a picture of us. She takes the photo and says she wants to write something for me. She writes on the back "Honey thank very much to be with me." Salma is quite a character. We shamelessly grope each other and then dance a slow song. Returning to our table, she starts to whisper in my ear "You are in charge of me, okay, honey," and "I'm gonna make you happy how you like." There is no need for me to negotiate the nasty details with Salma, so with Mr. Happy's urging, we head over to Hotel Cascades for a half-hour session. In the room she drops to her knees and starts with a BBBJ. We do just about everything to each other. Multiple positions, kissing, sucking each other. It's a very relaxed and enjoyable experience. She's no great beauty but Salma's attitude is a 10. I am very satisfied and pay her $60, but she acts like I've just given her $500. She is such a sweetheart.

As posted earlier, I went into the new Bar El Corral at this point, I won't repeat the details here. After leaving I looked around for my friend, Paola. I didn't see her, so I asked some of the Street Girls where she might be and they point across the street. Paola is at a shabby restaurant across the street eating with a SW girl friend. I sit down with them and decide against getting some food myself. I'm wary of getting sick. I ask Paola if she will go to La Gloria with me and she says sure and asks if she should go dressed like she is. I ask her to change into jeans, since she is wearing a skimpy skirt. She runs across to Hotel Porton and changes and returns in a pair of nice jeans. We head to the corner and turn left onto Constitución. Before the corner of Coahuila, we reach our destination, "Bar Salon de Baile La Gloria."

La Gloria caters to low-end locals and has no hotel attached. There are local drinking buddies, couples, and girls working for dollar dances, some of which will go back to your hotel. It's at least two notches below Miami Bar and one notch above Bar El Fracaso. Unless you have an interest in observing the local culture, La Gloria doesn't offer much, especially true for the quick-bang monger wanting to have as little of TJ as possible. On the other hand, its appeal to me is that I can bring a SW from Constitución or the Alley here, relax, and get to know them in a less hurried context.

Anyway, this evening I suppose I am the only American in here. I order a Negra Modelo and Paola gets Tequila. We chat and people-watch, laughing at a fat couple dancing their hearts out. After a few songs, Paola grabs my hand and says "Mi gusta," indicating that she likes this song. We get up and dance. After a while, we return to my hotel room for a session. Nothing remarkable to relate about it, but I'm satisfied with her. She leaves, I shower.

It's about 7:30 p.m. and I remember that I had told Monica that I would return later. It's kind of rude of me to put her off this long, but I'm losing interest in her anyway. Nevertheless, I head up Constitución and there she is. Doesn't seem to be upset at all. We walk back to my room and have a terribly boring session. She is getting lazy in bed. Stupidly, I agreed to meet her tomorrow for lunch around noon.

I circle the block a couple times and make some quick walk-throughs of the various bars. The weather is gloomy, not so many girls working tonight, Sunday.

To be continued…

John Rain

10-23-05, 01:32

Continuing…

It's getting late maybe 10 p.m. and I want to head over to Bar El Fracaso with the goal of enjoying a less polished, less rushed girl than your normal Bar Girl. Having had a couple beers already, my quality meter is dialed down a couple notches. El Fracaso is fairly busy but not packed. I stand inside the entrance in front of the dance floor and a Mexican guy that I've seen around a few times asks me if I like this place. I tell him not really and I ask if he likes it. He says no and laughs. Nobody likes El Fracaso, but it serves its purpose for cheap drinks, groping dances, and potentially cheap sex. At least half the girls will go across the street for $20. El Fracaso is a dump and I can't really recommend it. Most Americans would not be interested in spending time here. But sometimes I want a hamburger rather than a steak, so to speak. Tonight is just such a night.

Being an American in El Fracaso attracts immediate attention, as the typical customer is a local just looking to squeeze a few chicas for a dollar. The dance floor is surrounded with benches where bored girls wait to be selected for dollar dances. Two small girls turn around and look at me. I haven't seen them here before. In an unusually bold move, they motion for me to come over. Often girls here will scarcely throw a glance your way out of false modesty. I walk over, they say something in Spanish, but I can't understand. Likewise, they don't seem to know English. No problem, what I want doesn't require much talk.

When the next song starts, I grab the prettier of the two and we start to slow dance, pressed tight against each other. She is tiny. Maybe 90 pounds and 4'-8" with a tight slim body, small breasts, and a pretty, light-colored face with dark brown hair parted in the middle. Her name is Vanessa and looks to be in her early twenties. On the third song she squeezes my dick. Okay, even a dope like myself can figure out that this is a "tell," so to speak, and she will be willing to go "the room" with me.

Of course, being a dog, while dancing with this little cutie, I scan the room for other possibilities. Surprisingly, there about six girls I would consider, which is unusual for El Fracaso. Maybe two are prettier than Vanessa, but she is the tiniest. I'm going to stick with her, but always like a backup plan. Another couple songs and then the music stops. This bar doesn't provide music. It's strictly from a jukebox. We stand there for a moment and nobody starts the jukebox, so Vanessa motions for us to head over there. I give her a dollar, but she doesn't know what song to select and asks me. Well, the music is strictly Mexican bands and I certainly have no idea either and ask a girl nearby to choose the songs.

The music starts up again and we dance another few songs. Mr. Happy gets squeezed a few more times by Vanessa's tiny hand and I ask if she would like a beer. Apparently, this is the best idea she's heard all day long, we grab a table and order a couple of Pacificos. She gets a small Pacifico which costs me $4.50. The waiter gives her $2 back from my $4.50, which is her ficha profit. She tosses the Pacifico down in about a minute and motions for the waiter again. No problem, we like our women a bit under the influence. So, she asks about going to the hotel and I say sure, but let her know I want go to my hotel. She asks if I will walk her back here, of course I agree. I ask her if she will have "pasión" at the hotel, she says "Si" and pulls my head down and sucks hard on my neck. Then she grabs Mr. Happy and points to her open mouth. Like I said, it doesn't take a lot of Spanish or English to communicate.

Now she wants another beer! I hesitate, but she begs me, so I relent. This is her third in 20 minutes. I suggest that this is a lot of beer. She shows me her ten fingers and says she can drink this many. Amazing for a girl this small. My hands start wandering, grabbing her breasts with one and trying to get into her underwear with the other, when her friend walks over and I back off. They discuss something in Spanish. When her friend leaves, I tell her "vamos." We walk out holding hands.

Vanessa and I walk down Primera and turn right onto Constitución, get to the bottom of the hill, and cross over into the Alley. I pay the Oficina at Hotel Mini the $5 fine for bringing another girl to my room and in a few minutes we are both naked on the bed. At this point, Vanessa asks for money, which I have deliberately not discussed as of yet. Not generally a good strategy, but I figured I would just see happened this time. Well, here's what happened. She asks for $150 and I respond by laughing real hard. We bicker a bit and then she asks for $100. I ask her "Toda la noche?" and she says no—just one hour. I tell her to "Go, now!" and point at the door. I turn around and start to get off the bed. She grabs me and meekly says $30 for half an hour. I agree, but worry that the "pasión" of the moment has been spoiled.

I was wrong. This little chica is a tiger! We're deep kissing like we're on our honeymoon and all over each other as well. She starts sucking my nuts and then pauses pointing at Mr. Happy and says $40 for sucky sin condon. Damn. At this point, Mr. Happy (little head) has full control of my primary CPU (big head) and orders me to agree to these terms without hesitation. She continues with renewed vigor alternating between my nuts and shaft and I'm thinking this is about as good as it gets. Next, I lay her down and start DATY and then more kissing and sucking and before I know it, my half hour is up. I check my watch. Damn.

I agree to another half hour for another $40. I know, it's too much. This time she pushes me down, flips over on top of me, pulls my head into her crouch and says, "Mi gusta!" and then starts more BBBJ. We do 69 for a few minutes but I'm having trouble holding my head into her panocha since she is so much shorter than I. So, I lay back letting her do all the work. I hand her a condom and she puts it on me and climbs aboard with me still laying on my back. She's tiny and tight. I have to stop her to prevent climax. I do doggy for a few minutes, but stop again for the same reason. I take off the condom and pull her head into my nuts again. When she starts BBBJ, I let a little squirt into her mouth. Yes, it was on purpose (evil grin). She looks at me and yells "Hey" while her mouth is dripping cum. She tries to kiss me on the mouth but I hold her away, laughing the whole time. I flip her on her back and straddle her tiny torso and squirt all over her. I've never done this before, but the inspiration of the moment demand it and I thoroughly enjoyed making a mess over her. She didn't complain at all, except for still pointing to her mouth and repeatedly saying "Hey" to me.

I handed her some toilet paper and she wipes up the mess. Then she asks me something about more Pacifico, over and over again. I assure her that I will bring her back to Bar El Fracaso. We shower together and she keeps up with the Pacifico, Pacifico, Pacifico. Apparently, she would like to get really wasted, but I've had enough for tonight. I walk back with her to El Fracaso. I don't see her friend there anymore and ask where she might be just out of curiosity. Vanessa makes a pumping motion with her two arms indicating that her friend is likely fucking someone. She asks again if I'll buy her more Pacifico, I decline, and head back to my hotel to let my sore nuts get some rest for the night.

The next morning, I awake at 7:30 a.m. only to find that I have no water in my room. Shit. I dress and ask at the Oficina, Gloria the morning manager at Hotel Mini says there was some kind of problem with the street main. I walk down to the corner tienda and ask if they are having water problems as well. They say yes. Damn TJ. So, I buy a large jug of water and go back to my room to shave. Fortunately, I did shower with Vanessa late last night, so I'm not too smelly.

I go into my room and the toilet is leaking. The tank is slowly emptying out onto the floor, I suppose from the lack of back pressure on the hose. I head back to the office to ask the manager for a mop. Gloria grabs a mop and cleans up the mess in my bathroom and apologizes for the trouble. She says I can bring a girl into my room for no extra charge because of the inconvenience. This will save me $5 and I thank her. I shave with cold water from my jug and then head out to get Rosio for a morning session.

Rosio. Rosio is very beautiful. She is petite and has dark skin and very long straight black hair. She always dresses nicely. Her makeup is perfect. She always has a beautiful, big smile for me. Her attitude is always upbeat. Add everything up and she is simply my most reliable favorite. Downside? She is very expensive.

On this note, I would like to know if any of you has sessioned with Rosio and how much you paid. She stands near the top of the Alley, on the Northeast corner, just past La Hacienda. She only works in the daytime, until about 5 p.m., except for Friday and Saturday when she stays until 7 or 8. Anybody know her? Any details?

After another great session with Rosio, I grabbed an orange juice and walked around for a while. Eventually, I find myself down at the far end of the Alley talking to Jacquelyn. She works out of Hotel Venecia. She is a tiny, light-skinned, brunette and usually wears a school girl outfit. She must be about 30. Again, the weather is gloomy and there are not many mongers around.

Jacquelyn complains that there is no work today and begs me to go to "the room" with her. I tell her that I already had sex this morning, but she keeps begging. Mr. Happy says what the hell, let's go for it and we head into the room. I give her a big hug. She asks if I want her to remove all of her clothes. Didn't have to think long about that one. "Si," I tell her. She removes every stitch of clothing. We lay down on the bed and I rub her bush and play with her tits, which are not large but a nice size for her small body. Also, her tits are remarkably firm. She asks if I like them. I take a dark-chocolate nipple into my mouth and mumble "mucho." Surprisingly, Mr. Happy is ready to go and after about ten minutes of pumping, I finish. I pay Jacquelyn 200 pesos, she thanks me and I head off to meet Monica for lunch first stopping at the ATM.

I find Monica and she asks me to wait for her while she changes clothes. I walk down to the hotel she uses. While she changes, I see Rosio and run over to chat with her. Monica walks out of her hotel and sees me across the street talking with Rosio. She waves at me, I walk back over to her and it starts to rain. Crap. I didn't bring a jacket.

We decide to go to Hard Rock Cafe for lunch since it is so close and has decent food. I've taking several SW's here. Only good-looking ones, of course. I get a cheeseburger which is passable but not great. Monica gets a salad. We finish and head back to my room for a terrible session. Monica now refuses anything but Missionary. We go through the motions, I am angry with her and ask her to leave. She does. I clean up as well as I can with the water still not working, and head over to Hong Kong.

Sure enough, Salma is at the bar talking with someone. She sees me and smiles. I stand around for a few minutes, she excuses herself from her friend and gives me a big hug. I tell her that I am about ready to leave TJ. She whispers into my ear trying to entice me to get a room with her. I thank her and decline but tell her that she was great yesterday. One more hug and I leave. She returns to her friend at the bar. It's 2:30 p.m. (Were any of you at Hong Kong at 2:30 p.m. on Monday, October 17th?)

I look for a SW, Natalie, who usually stands in front of Hotel Eduardo, but she isn't there today. I decide to go up Constitución and see if Carola is there. Carola is young, a real cutie with short dark brown hair done into pigtails. As usual, she is wearing a school girl outfit today and is very hot. I take her hand and ask her to go the hotel. We've been together several times and I just think she is so cute looking. Well, in the room Mr. Happy just can't seem to concentrate on job one. No mas. Okay, so I just hold Carola, hugging and groping, but she wouldn't let me kiss her. The knock, time is up.

I return to my room, pack up my stuff, catch a cab, and cross the border taking my backpack and a few more experiences home with me.

Conejito

10-24-05, 04:02

Check out the new Google 'Zona' pic in the photo section.

Country John

10-24-05, 08:10

Nice TR Mike123. That's about how it goes in the Zona if you're cool and play right. Too bad about the water thing, but that's part of the experience right?

Glad to hear Salma was good to you. She is an old friend of mine (I was not in the Zona this weekend). I keep talking her up because she is also a good session. Never let's you down and you always walk away satisfied. Salma is one of those girls you should sit with for a while before taking her up. She's bound to make you laugh and by the time you get upstairs, you are both in a good mood.

I'm "retired" from the Zona right now but you can bet that if I "un-retire" she'll be back on the first string. I think Bluenose has a few nice things to say about her too.

Country John

California Guy

10-25-05, 07:49

I haven't tried Viagra or anything so I was wondering how well they work for multiple sessions? Also does anyone want to head down this Tues or Wed evening?

Country John

10-26-05, 18:02

I haven't tried Viagra or anything so I was wondering how well they work for multiple sessions? Also does anyone want to head down this Tues or Wed evening?

I don't want to sound like your dad, but you should talk to your doctor and get all the info you can on Viagra before using it. You might have a medical condition that prevents you from using it. Talk to the doctor. You don;t want them to carry you out of Cascades by the handles!

Country John

Blue Nose

10-27-05, 02:04

I haven't tried Viagra or anything so I was wondering how well they work for multiple sessions? Also does anyone want to head down this Tues or Wed evening?

In my own experience, Cialis is the most effective medication for obtaining and keeping an erection. A 20mg tablet lasts for at least 24 hours and can last up to 36 hours. During that time, you can have multiple sessions, multiple pops no problem. Viagara does not last nearly as long and must be taken on an empty stomach (whereas Cialis can be taken with food). I have not tried Levitra, although pharmacies in TJ will try to push this on you.

In general, you should heed Country John's advice about taking these drugs. It is best to talk to your doctor about it and maybe even get a script for it. If you have high blood pressure, diabetes, glaucoma or a range of other conditions then these types of drugs may not be right for you. Main side effect for most guys is a headache that occurs after you take the tablet. Cialis is better for this than Viagara, but you may wish to take a Tylenol tablet at the same time.

If you want to get some in TJ, you can do so at any pharmacy. Prices for a 20mg tablet range from $12 to $15 per 20mg tablet. Some guys break the tablets in half and just use 10mg at a time. Best prices are along "pharmacy alley" as soon as you walk through the turnstiles on your way to the taxi libre line. Highest prices are on Revolucion.

Blue Nose

California Guy

10-27-05, 10:22

Im pretty young so I don't think I would have a problem but I appreciate the advice either way! I doubt my doc would prescribe anything because of this fact but I guess I can always ask :) I would just like to go down for a day trip and have multiple sessions but don't think I could do it without some help, well Im good for a couple but I would still like to try lol.

Can anyone recommend a pharmacy outside of the zona, maybe a quick stop before? There are too many policia there and I don't want to take a chance and have them see me pop a pill.

In my own experience, Cialis is the most effective medication for obtaining and keeping an erection. A 20mg tablet lasts for at least 24 hours and can last up to 36 hours. During that time, you can have multiple sessions, multiple pops no problem. Viagara does not last nearly as long and must be taken on an empty stomach (whereas Cialis can be taken with food). I have not tried Levitra, although pharmacies in TJ will try to push this on you.

In general, you should heed Country John's advice about taking these drugs. It is best to talk to your doctor about it and maybe even get a script for it. If you have high blood pressure, diabetes, glaucoma or a range of other conditions then these types of drugs may not be right for you. Main side effect for most guys is a headache that occurs after you take the tablet. Cialis is better for this than Viagara, but you may wish to take a Tylenol tablet at the same time.

If you want to get some in TJ, you can do so at any pharmacy. Prices for a 20mg tablet range from $12 to $15 per 20mg tablet. Some guys break the tablets in half and just use 10mg at a time. Best prices are along "pharmacy alley" as soon as you walk through the turnstiles on your way to the taxi libre line. Highest prices are on Revolucion.

Blue Nose

Country John

10-28-05, 21:30

Mr Happy Feet

10-29-05, 07:41

Took my first trip to TJ tonight and I liked it so much I am going back tomorrow afternoon. I followed the advice of Blue Nose, Country John and others. Thanks to all!

I took the trolley from my hotel in Old Town to the border. From there a taxi (for $5) to Hong Kong. I went in the bar, found the bathroom, tipped the boy with the mop, and started cruising the alley. I made a few passes ogling all of the Latino hotties. It brought back memories from Pattya Beach, Thailand. I asked at least five girls in the alley for a BBBJ and they all said NO. and I know they understood me. Better safe than sorry, I guess.

I stopped in the little grocery store and bought some beers, made one last tour of the girls, and chose a gorgeous young lady with beautiful large breasts called Gabby. After following the usual routine, I had a good but somewhat mechanical session with her. I am not complaining—her body alone was worth the $35.

After tipping the towel boy, I stopped at a little curb-side food stand and had two delicious corn tortillas with meat and vegetables. They were like Mexican Gyros.

The taxi ride to the Sentri was only $3.0 which makes me think I paid too much on the way into the Zone.

I am working in San Diego for the next three weeks and I am pretty sure I will be visiting the Zone every chance I get. I think I will drive my rental car tomorrow and save about two hours in trolley time. What does it cost to park at the border????

TTYL,

MHF

Bone Order

10-29-05, 08:17

Bonds

10-29-05, 16:18

Happy Feet,

You should see parking lots for either $4 or $5. The four dollar lot has something like an 8 hour time limit.

California Guy

10-29-05, 20:59

Looking for advice from you fellow travelers. In a few weeks a fiend and I are going to be in TJ for three nights. I need to know what hotel recommendations everyone has. I would like to stay in a hotel close to the action.

Also what is the travel time from the SanDiego airport to TJ.

Thanks

It will take roughly 20-30 minutes but if there is afternoon traffic you will be looking at an extra 20 minutes.

In terms of hotels, I am not sure and I live here :) I would like to know as well so lets get some help from CJ!!

Mr Happy, man I here you about the mechanical action and it isn't fun in my opinion. I understand we pay less but these chicas can really get repeat clients if they at least acted a little better :) i guess some acting school would be good, ill teach lol.

Country John

10-30-05, 02:58

It will take roughly 20-30 minutes but if there is afternoon traffic you will be looking at an extra 20 minutes.

In terms of hotels, I am not sure and I live here :) I would like to know as well so lets get some help from CJ!!

Mr Happy, man I here you about the mechanical action and it isn't fun in my opinion. I understand we pay less but these chicas can really get repeat clients if they at least acted a little better :) i guess some acting school would be good, ill teach lol.

Depends what kind of accomodations you are looking for. Lt's start with the 3 to 3-1/2 star places.....Camino Real about 100 a night - nice plae, or PUEBLA AMIGO, nice place about 80 per nite. Both are a short cab ride, both will probably check the girl if they don't know you and make you register her.

Hotel Villa Zaragosa on Madre will try to clip you but if they have rooms they'll charge between 40 and 80.

Then there is the Nelson, Cascades, and others in the Zona. Thes eare 1 to -2 star places. Lets; face it: you're going there to get laid and not make a fashon statement. The hotels take security seriously so you you are REASONABLY safe; don;t be stoopid and take stoopid chances. Secure your shit and behave yourself. Be nice to the hotel people. The Leyva (new wing) is adequate for your purposes and a lot fo the girls stay there when they're off duty. Expect to pay between 30 and 45 a night to stay in the Zona.

Carry several bucks in quarters to tip people. Don;t be a scrooge, this is how they make their living - it's only a few bucks.

After several trips and some experience you'll get the "lay of the land" and be ok on your own.

I hope this helps, but there are a lot of posts that cover this topic. Good luck and enjoy yourself -be nice to the girls.

Country John

Mr Happy Feet

10-30-05, 04:42

I parked at the border this time. I even managed to find the East side parking lot. By 11:00 AM, in the bright light of day, I was walking up and down the alley checking out the hotties. I was concerned about the number of girls in the morning hours, but I was tripping over them. The first girl I got was a young thing, actually younger than I thought. Her name was Diana and I found her by HK. She agreed to the BBBJ but then changed her mind in the room. Oh well, do-do happens right? I am not one to cause a scene with a young chick in a foreign land. I took what she was willing to sell and thanked the hotel guy on the way out.

I had a beer and Tacos al pastor and then killed some time in Ad’s before FINALLY finding a chick that would give me a BBBJ. She was a 28-year-old average looking girl standing by the laundry mat in the alley. She performed well and with gusto—which I really need for number 2 of the day.

I checked out Hotel Lyva on advice from Mike123 and I might stay there next Friday. The staff seemed professional, they spoke English, and it was clean.

Two unique things did happen on this trip.

(1) A gentleman talked me into looking at a Hotel Spa on the corner. It is the one that was mentioned in an earlier post. For about $30 you get the legit massage and hot tub. But for $130 you get the whole package: girl, bath, shower, massage, etc. I met two of the girls and they were hot---Maybe not Chicago or Ad quality, but darn close. The owner is trying to push this package, but I don’t think it is going to happen in that market. When I travel in other areas, sometimes that is the only option.

(2) While I was in line at the border, two young girls, (not SGs) maybe 16, tried to sneak across as I was approaching the agent. They almost made it too. It was weird because they were along side me like they wanted to cut in line and then they just tried blending in with others.

Anyway it was a great Satuday afternoon! I was back poolside in Old-town by 3:00pm.

John Rain

10-30-05, 18:21

Her name was Diana and I found her by HK. She agreed to the BBBJ but then changed her mind in the room. Oh well, do-do happens right?Yeah, not uncommon for SG's to "forget" or refuse a particular promise made moments ago out on the street. I haven't found many chicas willing to give a BBBJ, especially to a first time customer.

Nice trip reports. Glad you're "going with flow" and enjoying yourself.

California Guy

11-02-05, 11:02

Was horny so I decided to check and see what Mondays had to offer. I figured it wouldn't be crowded, which I prefer, but I probably wouldn't recommend going on Monday because there wasn't a great deal of action to be found. I had originally planned to party for Halloween in the US but my little buddy changed my mind so maybe this was also a reason it was slow.
I left around 9:00 and made a couple stops for some Monster and condoms on the way, I am not sure about everyone else but I like bringing my own condoms because I don't trust theirs. By the time I parked and got into a taxi it was just past 10:00 so the night had just begun. I headed straight to Hong Kong to check out the low key action and it was even too low key for myself, though I stayed for a little while and played (didn't go to the pharmacia either which I regret now). The biggest problem were the girls, only 2 out of the 10-15 working were 8's and the rest just fell from there. To be honest though, I am very picky and rate women on a realistic level (well in my mind) not ever giving a girl a 10 because nobody is perfect. I also feel that many of the girls in TJ aren't very attractive and many look the same which makes me more biased, still if I see a beautiful girl I will tell you she is just that.

Anyway I downed 3 beers and got a good buzz going. I don't smoke and made the mistake of taking a cigarette from someone and it kind of made me sick, stupid thing to do. Well after spending a couple hours hanging out I decided to head out and check the talent in the alley. There were a couple cute girls but some damn annoying ones as well that just grab you and don't let go when you are walking. Needless to say I didn't see anything I really liked so I headed over to AB. This place always seems crowded and they need to open up a second one soon because it is a mess. I went to the bar and the guys fucking stood there and didn't offer me a beer, this is after 3-4 minutes so I didn't buy anything, prick bartenders! While I was waiting the first girl that comes up to me is built like Sly Stallone and I was just shaking my head. I told her I would talk to her later, LOL, but I honestly couldn't tell if it was a guy or girl. I had read here a few times that TV's hang out there, is that true? I wasn't sure but I took a peak around and there were some scary looking girls toward the back so I stayed away. There were probably 4 girls I noticed that were 7's and 8's so I know it was definitely bad considering the other times I have been here there were always at least 8-10 8 or 9's so I decided to go back to HK and try my look one more time.

Okay now when I first went to TJ for action several months back Country John was cool enough to give me advice about what not to do when you are in TJ. Needless to say I didn't follow his directions as well as I should and it almost cost me cash for some policia, luckily they let me go after searching me and seeing I wasn't carrying anything. It all was due to the fact I let some guy tag along with me to the store and I guess he ended up being a big drug dealer in TJ, not a good person to be seen with. Now back to Monday I was walking back to HK from AB and there is that bastard standing on the corner again when you are making your first right by the taco stand, must be his hand out as it was the same place I saw him the first time. This day I ignored him the best I could pretending like I didnt hear him and bailed asap, learned my lesson and just wanted to point this out so nobody gets into trouble like I almost did the on my first trip. Now I'm back at HK and it is now 1 in the morning so I am getting a little tired. I decided to cut myself off from beer since I wasn't feeling good and I ordered a water which didnt help much since it was freaking warm, actually it was mineral water which is worse warm but I'm smart enough not to use that ice :) I see that both the hot girls I noticed before are still with the same guys before so I just watched some of the dancers and chatted with a couple girls. After another thirty minutes I was about to give up and then one of these girls got on stage so I was not going to miss her dance. I told the girl who watches over the dancers that I wanted a couple private dances even though the guy she was with was still up stairs and he had been up there buying drinks for her those past several hours. I thought there was no way she is leaving that easy cash but I just wanted to get a couple dances anyway since I liked her look. Well it just so happened that her guy decided to leave on her second song so I was stoked. Now she was done on stage so we went upstairs to the booth. She wasn't as touchy as I would have wanted but I decided to ask her up stairs anyway and she agreed, I had to take a shot with this girl. The only other concern was the fact she wanted more money than I was willing to pay but she finally came down to the regular $60 because I told her I only had enough for a taxy afterwards but I really had more :) she went into her dressing room and got cleaned up for a few minutes and off we went next door.

I pay for the room and while doing so she says something to the guy who times stuff and I figured she was going to short me but I was like fuck it. We get in the room and she quickly says "you want to fuck me?" and I was like of course :) now she had to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and I get undressed thinking this isn't the best scenario and I may have gotten the wrong girl here. Oh at this point I also don't feel good because I drank a little too much, had a cigarette, had warm mineral water, and it was almost 1:45 so I wasn't happy about that. Still she comes out of the bathroom, throws on some porn, takes off her clothes, and my mind begins to clear. If this girl worked out a little she would be an easy 9 but regardless she is smokin hot and just has a little fat and couple cute tattoos. Her skin is creamy looking, she doesn't have kids, perky B cup, and as I said a gorgeous face, oh her kissing technique did suck. She started off our session getting on top of me and rubbing my cock against the outside of her pussy, I was nervous because I didn't want it to accidentally go in so I turned her over and started sucking on her titties. She then grabs my hand and places it on her pussy and I start banging her. She gets super wet and I knew I made the right choice because I was chatting on this board last week about trying to find a girl who could get wet and not use KY as it turns me off. So after a couple minutes of this she turns back over on top and pulls out the condom, then slides it on with her mouth. She starts to suck on my dick but it wasn't that great at all so if you like oral a lot she wouldn't be a good selection, though her ball sucking wasn't bad lol. After a a couple minutes that was getting annoying though so I sit up and she pulls her legs back and tells me to suck her. Man this girls pussy is a 9.9 on a scale of 1-10 and I am super tempted but I just play with her clit and get her wet again. Finally I just wanted to fuck her so she hops on top and starts to go at it. Now I know she is liking everything because she is wet but I thought after about 7-8 minutes she wanted me to blow my load because she was starting to really moan and grab me harder. I was going to roll her over and start doing some doggy but I just exploded instead while she was on top of me, plus I was tired. Okay now here is where it really gets good. She gets pissed off because I nutted and was asking me what happened, lol. At first it took me by surprise and I figured she had to be acting but she was real and honest. I mean after this she rolled over and grabbed my hand again and made me bang her more. She then starts to rub her pussy and do herself and now I am just pissed I didn't go the pharmacy . So finally after another 5 minutes we chat a little more and then hop into a shower. At this time I was trippin because it had been a solid 25-30 minutes but the towel guy never knocked? Now in the shower we wash and talk for another 7+ minutes and the only reason I get out is because I was afraid the towel guy might come in and steal my pants or something :) still he never did knock and I started to put my clothes on after our shower and the girl is laying in her panties on the bed and starts to play with her pussy more! I thought I had to be on one of those hidden camera shows or something because this just doesn't make sense. So I tell her to hold her legs back and I start playing with her pussy again. I do this for 2-3 minutes and needless to say my dick is now hard again and she throws another condom on my cock and has me get on top of her. Now man, I have been with some hot regular girls and have done the p4p action maybe a total of 15 times in the US, Mexico, and Europe the past 2 years but I have never met a girl like this. She was a complete nypmh and still wanted me to fuck her after all of that but I was about to puke I felt so bad and I just couldn't keep my dick hard, which I was still bummed about. I was now sweating like a pig as well and she is pampering me and then once I get my clothes back on she opens the door for fresh air. Not once during this entire session did the towel guy knock which seems amazing but then I thought back to when we first got the room and she said something to the guy. My thought was she actually told him to wait or something because I didn't pay for an hour and I know most girls want to be in and out quickly. Well anyway she grabs my hand and wants me to go back into the club but I told her I wanted a taxi so she waved one for me and gave me kiss. Even when I got into the cab the taxi driver, who spoke fluent english, said "damn she must have been good to walk you to the cab" lol. Oh I ended up giving her a $20 tip anyway because that was the best session I have ever had and she deserved every penny plus more.

Country John

11-03-05, 07:30

Great TR. Sounds like the girl was horny and wanted to the same thing as you: to get laid. Also, sounds like the girl was about the right thing, and she probably liked you which means you might have made a nice impression.

Look, anyone can go to the zona, pay out between 20 and 60 buck to get laid.

The joy of the Latina shines when she gives back like that. THAT is a good trip and one that session will take time to forget. Repeat with her and you'll probably have an even better session.

You are right to be cautious but not to the point of conspicuous suspicion. Remember that these girls and the hotel do NOT want a bad reputation. If anybody is going to rip you it'll be the girl. Always watch the girl.

The Zona offers two main vices: getting loaded on booze or dope and getting laid. The booze or dope will always effect the session one way or the other so pick your poison. Moderation will help you enjoy the session.

You had a good session with a lusty latina. Count your blessings and hope the next one is as satisfying.

Country John

Swoopusa1

11-04-05, 19:37

Mr Happy Feet

11-05-05, 23:20

Swoop,

Although I am not the most experienced monger on this board, I too share your habit. After many attempts at negotiating a resonable all nighter, I have resolved myself to enjoying one or two in the evening, getting a decent nights sleep, drinking a cup of Nescafe, and then strolling down the alley and havining another--sometimes for five or ten dollars less. Believe, there are still plenty of options. Just this morning at 0745, I had my choice of tall, short, trim, wide, blonde, oriental looking, school girl, etc.

I chose Rosalina. She stands on the same side of the street as HKs but closer to the restaraunt and grocery store.

When you think about it and do the math, the all nighter is not good for anyone. She is losing potential money and we are paying them for sleeping in our bed. (some guys might even relate that to a relationship) I mean don't we pay to them to come and to go?

I am sure others will weigh in differently.

MHF

What are the chances of getting a girl for the whole night? What should I expect to pay for the whole night? Also what's the best time of day / night to try for an all nighter? And are the club girls or the ally girls the best ones to try. I know that most girls want short time but I love getting one in the morning before I roll out of bed. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Mr Happy Feet

11-06-05, 00:11

Again two interesting / unusual things happened to me this weekend. I am curious if any of you long-time TJ fans have had similar experiences. Friday evening around 5pm I checked into Leyva Hotel—nothing to brag on just a simple place. After walking to the Nelson Hotel and back, I decided to head for HKs. As I am walking down the alley I bump into a good size American guy. (I said excuse me) He is about 30 years old, football player build, but looking a bit rough. He immediately asks me if I am American. Yes. (duh) He says emphatically, “I need your help! I just spent two full days in the jail without food or water. They took everything I had and they want more to release my brother. He sees my hesitation and defensive gut reaction. He too backs up and says, I don’t want your money! I just need some food. Please help.

So this is weird. My gut says scam, my heart says help the guy. His story and delivery were compelling. It was still light out, I was in no danger, and I had plenty of small bills for tips and such. So I told big, brawny, disheveled Keith to walk ahead of me into the little grocery store on the corner and pick out a few things. I wanted an apple myself and I have been shopping at this little store every mongering trip.

Keith was genuinely salivating now. He chose a liter of milk and a sandwich. I chose a bottle of water and an apple. The total was a little over $3.00. I paid in advance and left as Keith put out his hand. I took it and said, “Keith, either good scam or good luck.” He said he understood my distrust but was very so grateful. He said his biggest problems still lay ahead: trying to get across the border with no ID and then coming back for his brother still in jail.

The next several hours were fairly routine: HKs for beer, groping and striping. Soon, I headed out to pick up that little hottie, Gabbi. I paid her $50, but she came to my hotel alone and stayed about an hour; no rush and no knocking at the door.

A couple of hours later after eating tacos at the stand and drinking a $3.00 beer at HKs ( I didn’t know the price doubles after a certain time) I strolled out to the alley. After asking several girls for the BBBJ in my hotel, I met Samantha, a cute 20-year-old standing at bottom of Hotel Eduardo. She appears very nice but a little cautious. Her English is great and she understands what I want and I have explained to her that I have already had sex a few hours before. She asks straight-up, “what if you can’t come?” I said no problem you give me 20 good minutes of pleasure with no condom and I will give you $20.

Off we go to my room. Soon we are getting down to business. Her lips and mouth feel good (no teeth) but it is obvious she has had very little experience. Her mouth is getting a little dry and her technique is stalling. She stops and explains that she does not know what she is doing and that she has only done this once before. But she wants to learn and would like me to teach her—now in my room. Touchdown the crowd goes wild! I won’t go into anymore detail, but let me just say Samantha is great and I am a lucky monger.

Before she left, I asked her if she would be available next Friday night. She said not likely because she is an illegal alien attempting to cross the border every few days. When she fails, she checks into a cheap hotel, bangs a few mongers, and tries again. She had a few bruises that she said she got from climbing some rocks and slipping. Her goal is to get to Yakima, WA and join her family working in a factory of some sort.

I don’t know whether to alert the border patrol and keep her in TJ, sneak her across myself, or plan a trip to Yakima. LOL  What an experience the last 18 hours have been. I got to tell you all that the fear of the Mexican jail is still on my mind though.

I would appreciate all comments and thoughts on this TR.

MHF

Country John

11-06-05, 01:08

What are the chances of getting a girl for the whole night? What should I expect to pay for the whole night? Also what's the best time of day / night to try for an all nighter? And are the club girls or the ally girls the best ones to try. I know that most girls want short time but I love getting one in the morning before I roll out of bed. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Street girls are not the best TLN material. You can expect to pay anywhere from $100 to $300 for a bargirl but the TLN will end at about 4 or 5 depending on when you pick her up. TLN for most girls means "sun-up."

In some cases, the girl will hang until much later and want to sleep in. She might be sharing a hotel room with other girls and wants some privacy for a change. It's handy to know if she is sharing a room with other girls before you talk to her about a TLN as it could figure into the negotiations.

If you want that morning pop, pick your SG and tell her to show up at your room before she ends her shift. Depending on the girl, (some live locally and have to get home to the kids or boyfriend/husband) they'll be there. I've done it several times. This way you get your morning fix for a reasonable amount of money.

You might even arrange with a bargirl to show up after her shift, or you meet her outside the hotel. I've done that too. You might not be interested in a bargirl at the end of her shift, especially if she had a busy night but then again, you might not mind.

A TLN is expensive. Remember that unless you are like me and can have sex all night long without stopping, you'll be paying the girl to sleep after you've had sex with her. At the end of the night, you'll in effect be paying for two sessions that might be "extended" sessions. Figure the cost of 3 sessions at $60.00 each and then ask the girl if she wants you to "pay her to sleep."

Country John

Queer Juan

11-06-05, 23:52

Mr Happy Feet

That guy you bought the food for is there all the time with the same line of bullshit, he's a scam artist. Bad news, stay away from him. Buying him something to eat is ok but the next time you see him he may use it as leverage for something else. The brother thing is crap, I see this guy all the time and I'm there several times a week.

Mr Happy Feet

11-08-05, 02:57

QJ,

Unbelievable. Dude, I am shocked, really. Thanks for the information. His act was good. I have been around the world in my 20 military years and I thought I had seen it all. Here I thought I was being a good samaritan too. Hey, it was just three dollars I didn't deposit at HK bar--this time.

MHF

Mr Happy Feet

That guy you bought the food for is there all the time with the same line of bullshit, he's a scam artist. Bad news, stay away from him. Buying him something to eat is ok but the next time you see him he may use it as leverage for something else. The brother thing is crap, I see this guy all the time and I'm there several times a week.

Cruiser

11-09-05, 17:58

[QUOTE=Mr Happy Feet]Again two interesting / unusual things happened to me this weekend. I am curious if any of you long-time TJ fans have had similar experiences. Friday evening around 5pm I checked into Leyva Hotel—nothing to brag on just a simple place. After walking to the Nelson Hotel and back, I decided to head for HKs. As I am walking down the alley I bump into a good size American guy. (I said excuse me) He is about 30 years old, football player build, but looking a bit rough. He immediately asks me if I am American. Yes. (duh) He says emphatically, “I need your help! I just spent two full days in the jail without food or water. They took everything I had and they want more to release my brother. He sees my hesitation and defensive gut reaction. He too backs up and says, I don’t want your money! I just need some food. Please help.

This guy was hasselling me on the American side of the Border The night before last saying he needed $12 to get back home. I ignored him as much as possible because I new he was not legit.

He had a deformed over size a head and a yellow and blue striped shirt. He is scary looking, so, he probaly makes a lot of money with this scam because people are afraid he will beat them up or something.

I saw the same guy on the TJ side of the Border the next night. He did not say a word to me.

Cruiser

11-09-05, 18:00

PUSSYCATS IS A RIP OFF JOINT! STAY AWAY!

Last night I go in to try something different. There were only five or six girls working. The waiter sits me down and brings me a girl and two drinks. He tells me $14. No problem. I give him a $20. I am waiting for change. He shows me a $1 bill with his left hand. He insist I only gave him a $1. I watched him put the $20 in his right pocket. He keeps asking for the rest of the money. I told him to f*** off and I left leaving the girl and all of the beer and unfortunately my $20 bill that he stole. This is a typical rip-off posted in the scam section.

As I was leaving one of the employees follows me and asks me what was wrong. I told him nothing and I raced out the door. If I was in the U.S. and the same thing happend to me I would have complained to the manager and called the police, but I feared for my safety and left.

That was a big mistake they made doing that. They lost a lot of business that night. I was going to spend $100 + on lap dances and drinks. Also I am making sure that who ever reads this does not go there.

I can handle $20 loss. I hope they will lose a lot of business by me posting this.

GO TO HONG KONG FOR THE LAP DANCES AND DRINKS. When you go there go up stairs. The waiters are friendly, they help you get a HIGH MILAGE girl, and the girls are very photo friendly. There will be about five private lap dance boths for some VERY HIGH MILEAGE LAP DANCES AT $10 PER SONG. I like doing this warm up before going to ADELITAS where I eventualy end up getting laid.

Remember, STAY AWAY FROM PUSSYCATS!

Country John

11-10-05, 00:49

I don't know the guy personally but I've met him a few times, same scam, same story. He started out asking for money to get a taxi to the border and I told him that I was leaving the Zona in 15 minutes and I would be happy to take him across (NOT). I was talking to Jessica at the time who was posting on the corner of Coahilla and Constitution. I returned again after checking to see if Esmarelda was back at AB (she wasn't) and I talked to Jessica for another 15 minutes, the guy was a no show.

He probably has warrants in the USA or has the crystal monkey on his back. He doesn't seem violent but when I talked to him he looked like he had been knocked around a bit.

He seems to have manners but I would be very careful if he is drunk or doped up because he's a big guy and us old farts would be in trouble if the guy's plugs fell out and he let go on you.

$3.00 is not the end of the world either. I hand out more than that every time I went to the Zona. Buying a taco or two is a decent thing to do. Don't give him cash. If someone I know says they are hungry, I take 'em for a taco or two. No harm there. The milk was to fix a bad high.

When you watch him eat the taco, just thank your lucky stars you're not in his place.

Country John

Bone Order

11-10-05, 18:46

Do I need a passport? (I have one but was not planning on bringing it)

Do I need to carry any peso's?

Any advice on what to do during the day? (message, bull fights)

Any recomendations on Massage palors?

Hotel recomendations (Nelson, or some where in the Zona Norte)?

Simple questions that I think I know the answers to, but would rather ask the experts anyway.

Thanks,

BoneOrder

California Guy

11-11-05, 10:19

Went down this past Tuesday to try it since I haven't been that day :) I guess I may as well try each day of the week to see which I like best? Anyway I went to HK from the start, and like Cruiser said below it is a fun place to get some dances and hang out before AB. However I can tell there are too many gringos going and paying stupid amounts for girls, beer, dances, etc... because each week the rates and expectations seem to rise. Two weeks in row now a couple girls have said $100 to go upstairs and I haven't gotten this from any girls at AB, more like $80 was the highest any has asked for but have always settles lower. The girls also hang out with the little mexican guys if you don't buy them those half-size $7 beers now, in fact the waiters don't fool around and try to get you to buy a bucket instead for $70. Now I haven't seen a bucket but the waiter said it was 6 or 7 beers? Lol what the fuck, how did the price for those shitty 6 ounce beers go from $7-$10 and you don't get anything extra? It is starting to become a joke and I will personally quit going if it continues because a lot of guys are dumbasses and pay too much. Soon it will be cheaper to do girls here for 1/2 hour then spend the time and money going there, well unless you just hang with the street girls but even their rates will increase.

Back to the action! It was actually fairly crowded in the club with a lot of girls but tons of guys. I was surprised because it was a Tuesday but I wanted to chill so I did. I really went to find the girl I did last week and I was thinking that Country John was right and I found one that likes me :) So I see her again and damn she is looking great! I just sit down and she makes her way over bailing on some guy she was with and we sit and try to communicate, no habla espanol :) anyway, I buy her some beers because I figured it would help losen her up and she knows I am here to see her, Oh by the way watch the waiters because twice they took her drink when it had about a 1/4 of the beer left (which for these is a whole 2 ounces) but it is still beer :) Eventually after about 1/2 hour she asks me if I wanted to fuck her and I said lets go. She changed and we walked next door and I was excited to get some action like I did the past week, unfortunately things weren't the same so I would say YMMV! She does like sex and gets into it but not as much as the last time and she seemed really rushed. I was kind of pissed now and needless to say I didn't tip her like I did last week and told her it wasn't as good. After we finished I told her was going to go home so I waited for a taxi while she walked back in. No freakin taxi was in sight for about 5 minutes so I walked back to the club and decided to play a little more. I walked by her as she sat with a new guy and she looked at me funny like she was shocked I was back, I just smiled and kept moving. I ended up talking with another girl there for a while but the girl was so stuck up I was amazed! I mean she was an 8 and one of the prettiest girls there but she kept saying "I am beautiful" and "all guys want me" so I kept laughing and pretending like I didn't understand. I stayed for another hour and I bailed because I had to work the next day and I may go down this weekend.

Overall, I probably should have went to AB because to go and just fuck a girl isn't too good at HK. Even many of the street girls are better and they charge a lot less but when I want to chill it is a cool spot. I would like to find another if anyone has a suggestion besides AB and CC? Something along the lines of HK but lower key with at least a couple lookers. I think HK was probably this way at one time. There were about 5 girls I would give between an 8-8.5 this night and a couple 7's as well. The other thing is that some of these girls will only let you buy them drinks and get dances so you can't even fuck them, so lame! As I said before, many guys and this was a Tuesday so I'm not sure what was up. Hopefully something new opens up soon but until then I will have to try the regular spots still.

QuackUp

11-11-05, 20:57

California guy,

Thanks for the report. I like going to Hk also, but ( knock on wood ) I haven't been asked for $100 yet. I will be going down this weekend so I will give a report when I get back.

Next time you go, you may want to try Tropical. Usually there are some young chicks there. Just take a walk around the club before ordering anything. If you see something, sit and buy a drink. If not, just keep walking out the door. One word of caution. I would say 80% of the chicks will go upstairs, the other 20% will not. Before I buy anyone a drink, I ask them if they do go upstairs. Every once in while, you will get a girl who will say she does, but in the end , she doesn't.

Hope this helps,
q

Country John

11-11-05, 21:01

Do I need a passport? (I have one but was not planning on bringing it)

No. A drivers license will work but one will be required soon, check the posts for the date.

Do I need to carry any peso's?

I do. I aqm used to the currency and find it easier to work with. If the girl wants 80 bucks, offer her 800 pesos, you'll save almost 10 bucks.

Any advice on what to do during the day? (message, bull fights)

Sit at the taco restaurant in the alley and watch the girls.

Any recomendations on Massage palors?

This is a hit and miss deal. You will have to read up.

Hotel recomendations (Nelson, or some where in the Zona Norte)?

Again, you need to read up. there is just too much to know depending on what you are looking for. There is a very wide range of accomodations from a minus five star to a one star.

Country John

silversurfer

11-12-05, 00:00

silversurfer

11-12-05, 00:10

QJ,

Unbelievable. Dude, I am shocked, really. Thanks for the information. His act was good. I have been around the world in my 20 military years and I thought I had seen it all. Here I thought I was being a good samaritan too. Hey, it was just three dollars I didn't deposit at HK bar--this time.

MHFYes, this guy is a scam artist. I've seen this guy for awhile, off and on. I usually see him in the zona norte, walking the streets, telling the same sad story. Yesterday, I was surprised to see him on the US side of the border (near the duty free store), trying to work his scam (I just avoid him). Its sad and a shame that he continues to do this (dishonestly).

Boeing1048

11-12-05, 01:05

Well visited TJ on Tue after flying from Cincinnati to San Diego I arrived at the airport. Took the Trollety to E St (thanks to the posts on this board) I checked into Motel 6 43.00/night. I then proceeded to the wonderful world of Tijuana. I took a Taxi Libre to the "alley" Now this is my 1st time in the alley the taxi driver dropped me at the beginning of the alley. I walked down the alley MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! whay can't we have a place like this in the U.S.

I walked only down part of the alley picked a girl dont know her name negotiated 25 but I forgot to ask for sin ropas till I got to the room. After I got to the room I then said sin ropas that cost me an extra ten. This girl took her skirt off and I was all ready until she pulled out the Astroglide....That shit turned me off I paid her $25 and just left. I guess that the more you fuck the more you need that shit.

I then went back in the alley and looked somemore after finding nothing I got in a cab, now I know that you guys have said that the taxi drivers get a kickback from the massage places but it was either that of AB's and from the reviews here that place is starting to get a little expensive. So I said take me to a massage parlor. Well I was taken to the Purple Rain.

For those of you that have not been there it is a big purple building that I think is on the end of Revelution, anyway get out the taxi and I now and in the place. I guess the taxi guy must have called ahead because when I walked in they were all lined up. I picked this 5'5 155lbs mexican beauty with nice size titties, now I know I paid alot but it was worth it. total I paid 40 for the massage and 80 for her.

She led me upstairs to the room it was little room with a mood light and a radio. At that point we negotiated the other 80 she wanted 100 but I got her down to 80. She then proceeded to undress, this b**** was banging fine ass body, she undressed me and then gave me the massage of my life, paying attention to all the important parts. She then proceeded to put on the condom, now I know from this site that you NEVER use Mexican condoms so I brought the trusty trojan. She proceeded to give me a CBJ and that was awesome. Then this goddess laid down on the bed spread those legs open and invited me in (No Astroglide here) It was the bast sex of my life by far I did her that way for a few and then sucked those beautiful breasts she had hanging from her chest.

After about 10 min of this I turn her over the ass is just as nice as the breasts and I loving take it to this girl doogy style. She is enjoying all of it I can tell she is not faking after about 10 min of this I give her what I know she wants. We lay there for another 10 min (I can't believe that I am laying with this fine ass woman) She then asks in her best english voice "shower?" I say hell yeah.

Now to tell you how comfortable with this girl and the vibes she was getting from me. The shower is about 2 doors down from the room she takes her purse and tells me to take my pants like she is looking out for me, that was nice. We get to the shower,nice big shower. I soap her up she soaps me up and we just wash each other up, it was very very nice.

We go back to the room and she drys me off and I get another bbbj from her after that she puts her clothes and I put on mine and off I go back to the border with a huge smile.

Damage = 20 for the SG
= 120 for and hour with Fablouisa at Purple Rain
Experience at Purple Rain priceless

I would recommened this massage parlor to anyone. Only thing I wish I brought my camera

Conejito

11-12-05, 07:23

possible peep holes being used at chicago, from the cleaning areas into adjoining rooms. do you mind if they watch?

John Rain

11-12-05, 20:35

Two weeks in row now a couple girls have said $100 to go upstairs and I haven't gotten this from any girls at AB, more like $80 was the highest any has asked for but have always settles lower. Wow! $100 is crazy. I take that to mean they were not interested in going to the room.

I really went to find the girl I did last week… I buy her some beers … Oh by the way watch the waiters because twice they took her drink when it had about a 1/4 of the beer left Sometimes the damn waiters can really be aggressive, I've encounter this in AB, but more frequently in Hong Kong/Miami. Sometimes the girls seem to allow it. Other times, especially with girls that have been around for a while, they'll tell the waiter to back off. Remember, the waiter is also drumming up tips.

I was excited to get some action like I did the past week, unfortunately things weren't the same so I would say YMMV! … she seemed really rushed. I was kind of pissed now and needless to say I didn't tip her like I did last week and told her it wasn't as good. Damn, that must have been disappointing after the over-the-top performance last time! But this is how Tijuana is, and this is how people are. Rarely do you find a sure thing. Last time she was horny. This time rushed. You did the right thing by letting her know and not tipping.

Overall, I probably should have went to AB because to go and just fuck a girl isn't too good at HK. But any guy would have returned to HK to try that chica again. So, you did the right thing. And you were wise to watch your money and not buy a lot of fichas.

I would like to find another if anyone has a suggestion besides AB and CC?You could try Topical, which is on Coahuila at the corner of Av. Ninos Heros. Basically across and down from Adelita Bar. Of course, nothing is a sure thing.

The other thing is that some of these girls will only let you buy them drinks and get dances so you can't even fuck them, so lame!Sure, most guys are here for the sex. But I see lots of locals and a few guys on a tight budget, that just drink by themselves and occassionally, pick a chica for a $1 dance without buying the girls drinks. It's not a bad way to kill some time and get an up-close look and feel for the chica. Yes, I have done this.

Thanks for the report and better luck next time.

Mr Happy Feet

11-13-05, 03:32

My time is running short in SD so I headed for the border Saturday morning. This is probably my 5th or 6th. Today, I decided to buy a little "two-pop" insurance. Following the advice of this board, I bought one tablet of Cialis after crossing the gates. I swallowed it in the store. After walking a block or two I took a taxi for $3.00 to the Zone.

I cruised the alley and chose a 20-something that was in front of the Hotel Cascada. She was a typical hottie, nice smile and a decent attitude. I got her for $15 probably because it was early or maybe because I made her laugh.

Something I never noticed before is that you can watch porn in the rooms at that hotel. How cool is that? She gladly gave CG and Mish sin ropas--which was enough for me.

After her, I don't remember her name, I hit the taco restaruant in the alley across from the laundry. I ate a big breakfast and watched the SGs and my fellow Gringos. I was there reading and watching for about two hours and they never hasseled me. Finally, I paid my $6 dollar bill and started cruising the zone. I kept passing this one girl who would say $5. Somehow, I bet she has several additional prices and restrictions.

I went into HKs to have a few beers and enjoy the dancers. Here, I met the large breasted MILF Nina. She is closer to my age than the others but I liked her large naturals and her attidude. I agreed to take her upstairs if she promised to be a good lay. I said to her, "no sleeping" like many others do. She thought that was very funny. She said no way and then made several hand, mouth, and hip gestures to amplify her words. Well, Nina did not disappoint me. And again, we used Hotel Cascada and got to watch porn while we shagged.
If I go back next weekend, I will see her again.

MHF

Country John

11-13-05, 14:14

$100. for an AB girl is too much. Don't pay it. Give your money to a girl that deserves it and let Orange County take care of the rest.

You might have a great session with a girl, any girl. That was then and this is now. Maybe she had a bed session before you, maybe she doesn't feel well, maybe she hates her life. You can ruin the session if you are expecting more than you should. You paying for sex, YOU enjoy it and get out.

When you lay next to these goddesses for the 10 or 15 minutes after your session, enjoy it to the max. They are beautiful creatures. Hug them and kiss them and be nice. If they want to leave then let them leave because they are going to leave anyway.

Walking out on a session should be avoided. You paid the girl and she should know what's she's doing so let her do her thing. So what if you don;t get off? The session is better than walking away from one.

How much was the cab fare to go one block? That's how far Purple Rain is from The Alley.Next time check it out from the corner, you can see it at the end of the block.

Never trust a waiter, always count your change.

Other than that, have fun.

Country John

QuackUp

11-14-05, 23:02

Started Friday night and left for home on Sunday night. First off, the girl who I couldn't remember her name that gave great service at HK, is Joanna. Unfortunately, when I arrived at HK on Friday night she was on her way for home. She only works until 8:00 pm..

So now to try someone new. Actually I tried two different chicas at HK.. First was Sandy, the second Alex. Both are very pretty, but upstairs just average. Cbj from both. Nothing great nothing bad. Still beats being at home. After Alex I retired for the night.

Saturday, first stop Tropical. Ended up with a chica named Amy. She is all friendly downstairs, upstairs a little different. When in the room she asked for the money up front which I told her no way. Finally she said okay. I should have left but what the hey. Cbj, rushed job, I know ymmv but I would give her two thumbs down.

At this point I'am thinking should I go see Joanna and the great service she provides, or should I try someone new. I said what the heck, and walked across the street to LC.. I didn't see Denise there but a stripper named America caught my eye as she was dancing. I called her over and she is very cute and muy flaca so if you are into that, she is the one.

Upstairs, it was more than I had expected, which is a good thing. Bbbj, dfk, all positions. Not a greek man so I didn't even try. I give her two thumbs way up. She wore me out so well, I called it a night after our session.

Sunday. Went to HK to see Joanna. Unfortunately she doesn't work on Sundays. I then went over to LC to see America. Guess what? She doesn't work on Sundays either. She did give me her room number as she is staying at Cascadas but she wasn't in the room.

Okay, after the session with America the night before, if I left now I would still be satisfied. Just for the heck of it, before I flag down a taxi, I walk across to Tropical. Still a little gun shy with the poor performance of Amy, I sat down and had a drink.

After a few minutes I see a cute girl sitting at one of the tables. I call her over. She is not as flaca as America but she is very pretty. I believe her name is Mirasol or something like that. She is from Michuacan ( sp ). Has one kid. I asked her if she goes upstairs because she told me she has only been in Tj for eight days. I do get a little leary when they are that new to the scene.

We go upstairs and her performance was better than America, and I thought America was top notch. Plenty of dfk, bbbj, all positions and again, did not ask for greek. I guess what made this session better than the one I had with America, the hotel boys must have forgotten we were in one of the upstairs room. We were in the room a good hour and 15 minutes before the knock came. Yes, we made every minute count. This was the best ending I could have had to end the weekend with. What started off as average, ended with a bang, then a boom!

My ride back to L.A. was so relaxing, it didn't seem like a two hour ride.

Q

Country John

11-15-05, 16:35

Quackup, nice TR. Do you know Salma at Hong Kong? She's a long timer but a great session. She also speaks English and is a lot of fun at the table. Guys who know her like her as do I but being retired havn't seen her for a while.

A lot of girls will be going home for the holidays soon. You'll see a rotation happening over the next few weeks.

Country John

QuackUp

11-16-05, 01:29

OCTraveler

11-16-05, 05:55

Took an abbreviated trip to TJ today (total time in the Zona was about an hour) - just had to get my "fix" of the streets there - after all these years I seem to get a feeling of a mix between adrenaline and comfort each time I go through those turnstiles.

Anyway, hit HK and hooked up with Nina (not one of my real favorites) for a quick trip up to the booths for a $20 BJ - too rushed and too much teeth.

Afterwards took a couple of laps around the zone, stopped, ate some great oysters off the street vendor and flagged a cab and headed back across the border. Funny thing - talking to the cab driver and was able to give him more info on the Zona than he could give me - seems he's been alive for less number of years (20) than I've been going TJ!

Country John

11-16-05, 06:06

Thanks cj,

I have not had the pleasure of meeting Salma yet. Does she work days or nights? The funny thing about going to Tj is, you never know what you are going to get. I think that is part of the excitement of going there. The anticipation of having a hot chica that performs well. Most of the time I get one or the other. A hot chica that so-so upstairs or a chica that is so- so in looks but performs like a champ.

This last trip was pretty close in getting looks and performance even though it started off so-so. But like I said before, the worst day in Tj is better than being at home.

Q

Q, Salma is a sweetheart from Michoacan and one of the cleanest and most trustworthy girls you'll meet in the Zona. I know her PERSONALLY and can vouch for her integrity. She'll deliver a great session guaranteed, just let her run the show. She works noon to 8PM and has ner novella at 9PM to 10:15PM so she will not come down if you call her in her room.

Take care of her if you hook up. If you need a second opinion, PM Blue Nose. Have fun.

Country John

OCTraveler

11-17-05, 09:43

Q, Salma is a sweetheart from Michoacan and one of the cleanest and most trustworthy girls you'll meet in the Zona. I know her PERSONALLY and can vouch for her integrity. She'll deliver a great session guaranteed, just let her run the show. She works noon to 8PM and has ner novella at 9PM to 10:15PM so she will not come down if you call her in her room.

Take care of her if you hook up. If you need a second opinion, PM Blue Nose. Have fun.

Country John

I cannot agree more with CJ re: Salma. I only hope she introduces herself to you in her special way (a massge of your shoulders with her breasts rubbing against your back). Salma is truly a "Princessa".

QuackUp

11-17-05, 16:00

Hey cj and oc,

Thanks for the recommendation. I will be looking out for her the next time I'am down there. Also, I forgot to mention, Azul is still not back so I'am not sure if she is coming back.

Q

Lascivious

11-17-05, 20:02

OC, what's a novella, (besides a short novel)?

Country John

11-18-05, 16:30

OC, what's a novella, (beside's a short novel)?

The "Novella" is the Mexican soap opra. Girls like Salma are dedicated and passionate followers. On one TLN with her, I snuggled up next to her in bed while she watched intensely. She was like a WWF fanatic....at the end she laughed it off.

Salma likes to go with guys who are nice to her and polite. She is not shy at the table or in the room. If she takes a liking to you she'll put icing on the cake in the room and you will have sessioned with a pro, one of the cleanest girls I know. She is very dedicated to her kids and this is why she's there. She might talk about them, not for pity but because she misses them, is proud of her daughter and likes to tell people (who'll listen) about them.

Of all the girls I've taken in the Zona, Salma is the one girl that I have a true friendship with. I've backed away from the Zona and sadly, have not seen her for a long time -I actually miss talking to her. Tell her you know "Or-vee-yay" and tell her I said hello, I still love her and to "have a nice day anyway.

Country John

Lascivious

11-19-05, 07:23

Thanks for the info CJ.

California Guy

11-21-05, 00:20

Hadn't been on a Thursday so I decided to check it. I headed right to HK where I like to hang out and see my girl but it was packed! Not with girls but with tons of guys watching that stupid lesbian show, kind of over-rated in my mind. Anyway, the girls were okay this night but I didn't see a couple I rate as the highest. I did see the girl I sessioned with a couple times and I really like her, she is gorgeous, but she got pissed because I wouldn't take her to the room. I forget that is what I am there for but at the same time I bought her a couple drinks, which is fucking stupid at $7 each, and was just chillin. I felt bad because she got up and left but after the last session I wasn't to happy and she kept saying "you want to fuck other girls" in her broken English. I obviously said no and I really meant it at the time, I just wanted to chill for a while. Finally she got up and left so I did the same. I found this other girl named Alexa and I had seen her before as well. She has one of the prettiest faces you will ever see, very young looking. Perfect natural C cup for you boob guys but her ass isn't that good, overall I give her a 7.5-8 but no complaints in terms of looks and I would love to have this girl on my arm. Anyway, her English sucked so I couldn't understand anything nor could she but my little guy did the talking. The session was a little bad in terms of the fact she didn't do oral and right away had me on top but she was very wet which was nice and I could tell she was having fun. I banged her probably 15 minutes and I popped one so I left. I would do her again if I were there but she isn't a gfe or at least ymmv with her. I was going to check out some other spots but I wasnt into walking around so I chilled at HK. I think I will head back next week and look for the famous Salma because that is what I want :)

newidentity1

11-22-05, 22:37

I had a strange thing happen last week in AM Sunday morning. I concluded my trip at one of the better strip clubs on revolucion (up around 5th or 6th) at dawn (I think they closed at 5:30 or 6:00) and having extra time and needing exercise, I walked down Revolution to first and headed west for about a mile and a half or so (beyond where any map I own shows any detail)

I know what your thinking, Is this guy crazy? but as I walked on it seemed like a Sunday morning stroll in any other city, and surprisingly once past nino heros, I felt no reason to be alarmed, but I was still alert.

After I had enough exercise, I flagged down a taxi ,who was definately surprised to a gringo that far from centro, and was somewhat amused as he asked what was doing up here.

So I offered him $5 to the border which he accepted and he took me back along a long-assed route that I did not recognize. I guess he figured that if was going to walk a mile to see his city he would give me a tour of some other nicer areas. I believe we were north east of the river off of pasoe tijuana.

Anyway (now the strange thing you've been waiting for) as we approached the border station (by the end of the sidewalk where the buses usually are) and I exited at the end of the i noticed a policia pull up by the cab. The cabbie got a strange look on his face (as would anyone) and I walked away slowly and unconcerned as not to arise suspicion (back to my sunday stroll!) even though I was being eyeballed by the cop. As the cab pulled away the police lighted him and I saw him braking and pulling over as he went behind a building.

I could not see that the cabbie had done anything wrong, maybe it was just a routine check of license or something. Does anyone know if cabs are not allowed to drop people off that close to the checkpoint? Or is there was something else I missed? Maybe he was from out of the zona considering how far I had walked?

QuackUp

11-23-05, 00:54

i wasn't going to go back to tj for at least another week but the girl i met at tropical, who i wrote about on my last report, kept calling me on my cell phone. i have had girls from tj call me before but not everyday. finally the third time she called, i told her i would come down sunday.

she said she would take off of work and we would spend the day together doing whatever. i told her i would take her to the movies, then to a restaurant, then to the hotel. after saying hotel she starts to laugh, and asked, what are we going to do in the hotel?

i told her she would find out on sunday. she then asked if i would stay at the hotel with her the whole night. i told her i had to leave around 10 or 11 p.m. because i had to work the next day. she didn't like the answer but said okay. for the next three days, she text messages me about sunday. i had to use babelfish to translate what she had wrote. i could only understand half of it because she uses alot of slang to cut down on the words.

finally sunday rolls around, i call her that i'am at the border getting ready to cross over. she gives me her room number, she is staying at the rizo de oro the same hotel used by the bar tropical. i get to the lobby, tell her i'am there and says she will be right down. at the lobby she gives me a nice tight hug and a kiss and gives me a present. a little figurine, but i think this is the first time a tj girl ever gave me a present.

i thank her, get into a taxi and off to plaza rio we go. funny, but before we get into the taxi, one of the waiters from tropical passes us, and looks at me and asked, do you speak spanish? i told him so-so, and he says good luck. back to the taxi, we used a taxi libre who actually used his meter and told us there would be heavy traffic because of some parade near plaza rio. no problem, it took us a while but when we finally got there, the fare was $34 pesos. wish all of the taxis were this honest.

by the time we get to the movies, the only one starting at that time was chicken little. since we didn't want to wait around we went to see it. this was at the vip theater not the big one. tickets were $7 pesos each. this theater is great to bring a date. big comfy leather chairs and the arms between can be pulled back so you can get more comfortable with your date.

for me the movie was so-so, she seemed to like it. the best part for me was when she would just turn to me and start making out, which happened alot during the movie. after the movie we walked through the mall and i told her i would buy her a present, she said she didn't want one. i then told her if not her, i would buy a present for her son. she said okay. i can't remember the stores name, but it's under the big movie place and she picked out a toy for her kid. we wait in line but the line took so long she gets mad and says forget it, lets leave. i said what about your sons gift. she said it will have to wait.

after leaving the store, we catch a taxi libre to the hotel la ma maison. this took her a little bit by surprise. i guess she thought we were going back to rizo de oro. the hotel charge is now around $37 usd. this hotel is very nice, highly recommended. she loved it.

we did our thing and after a couple of hours i told her i would take her to a nice restaurant. she said she was having so much fun, she didn't want to leave the hotel and could we order room service. no problem. the food was okay, nothing great, nothing bad. just more time for playtime. after dinner, alot more playtime. around 10:00 i told her i should be getting home. she then says i should stay with her the whole night. i said again, i have to work tomorrow.

finally, not to make a big scene, i told her since i have next weekend off including thursday and friday because of the holidays, i would come back next week and take her to rosarito. that's when she threw me a curve ball. she told me she was leaving for home tomorrow, that's why she wanted me to stay with her the night.

she then said, if i stay the night, she would stay one more week. i told her i couldn't. we finally agreed that if we have one more session, she would stay one more week and i would take her to rosarito. i finally left tj around 1:00 a.m.. i told her to stay at the la ma maison when i left and she had no argument there. she really liked that hotel also. compared to the hotel rizo de oro, she probably thought she was staying at the ritz.

so after so many so-so sessions with different girls, this is my highlight of all the girls i have had so far. not only is this girl great in bed, she is a squirter. no faking an o here, half the bed was just soaked. i have to remember to get extra towels when we go to rosarito. so if any of you guys are in tj, she is still availiable untl thursday because after rosarito, she will be going home for the holidays.

Simba2

11-23-05, 07:46

Hello all,

I will be travelling to Mexico - Tijuana on mid January next year and wanted to know get some info as it will be my first trip there. Please can some veterans of the place adivse me where i can get the best girls and what sort of prices in dollars should i be looking at paying them. Also if anyone has any info on girl friendly hotels.

Will appreciate all the help.

Thanks

VTheVan

11-24-05, 07:23

Thanks to all the fellow mongers, I was able to visit TJ without any trouble last weekend. I was in SD last weekend and with the details provided, I was able to visit TJ and had the pleasure of visiting the "alley".

From the border, took a taxi (5$) and went to Adilitas first. It was packed and I did not find any body interesting right away. Hence, walked the "alley" checking out the girls. I liked the girl in front of cascades, who was young with beautiful face and boobs (the way I like them..). Hence, negotiated the price of 30 for sucky and sin ropa (I know it is little bit high but I liked the girl and hence no negotiations). But in the room, when I handed her 2 20$ bills, she offered CBJ and I accepted it (my first mistake). The session was so so (nothing special) and I did CBJ, regular postion and finally doggie. Banged her in doggie for 5 minutes and I was done by the time the dreaded knock came on the door.

After the first round, I went back to Adilitas and checked out the girls. After an hour or so, one girl (abour 25 - 30) with good rack and decent face offered me sucky, fucky, multiple positions for 50$. I took the offer and we went upstairs. Compared to the first round, this girl gave very good company (in bed) and seemed to enjoy the session (could be faking but it felt good..). Kissing, CBJ, multiple positions were offered and I really enjoyed the session.

As previously suggested, the Bar girls seemed to be much better than the street girls. Anyway, thanks again to all the senior members for all the information, so that persons like me from Illinois, could visit TJ and enjoy some good looking mexican girls.

Jimmy Tj

11-25-05, 22:28

Guys,

Thanks for all the great posts over the years. I have been a long time lurker for years to the site and I know want to share my experiences in Tijuana.

I moved to San Diego 16 months ago from Chicago, Illinois. I work in downtown San Diego and currently live 5 minuets from the border. I had three years of Spanish in high school but did not need to speak it for 16 years until I started to visit TJ. After spending the past 16 months visiting Zona Norte anywhere from 1 to 4 times a week my Spanish is not that bad. I have had a 15 month relationship with a bar girl, rented a house in Playas de Tijuana for 6 months and I will write about all this in other posts. I have always traveled alone on visits to Zona Norte and I have never really hung out with any of my fellow gringos in the bars.

The following are my reviews and opinions of 6 Zona Norte bars that I have spent time in.

Adelita Bar

I do not like this bar. If you are looking for a quick 15 to 20 minute session sin amor then this is the place for you. Yes, there are some very hot girls here but in my experience all the girls in this club talk a good game in the bar and when they are upstairs they turn cold. I have gone up with 8 girls and none of my experiences have been very good. The waiters are constantly pushing the drinks and it can get very hot in the bar with all the mongers. You can find action here starting in the afternoon and long into the night.

Chicago Club

I have spent the majority of my time in this club at night. The girls may not be as hot as in Adelitas but I have had very good sessions with girls here. The bar girl that I dated for 15 months I met here. The hotel has TV in the rooms with porn unlike the hotel for Adelitas. They play more American music in this bar than Adelitas. I have gone up with 10 girls and what was promised in the bar was delivered upstairs. This bar has action starting at 8pm and long into the night.

Las Chavelas

Unless you speak passable Spanish you will probably not feel comfortable in this bar. Many of the women are on the heavy side. I have gone up with a few skinny women who delivered what they promised in the bar. The music is strictly Mexican and frequented clientele is Mexican men. There is action starting in the afternoon and into the night.

Bar Tropical

I really enjoy this bar but you need to speak Spanish to have a really good time. There are waiters that do speak English that can help you out. Unlike Las Chavelas the women in here are very pretty and average age is around 20 years old. Some women will only drink with you while others will go upstairs. Always ask the women if she will “arriba” go upstairs before you buy them a drink. I have had my best experiences with women from this bar. The music is mostly Mexican and frequented clientele is Mexican men. I am usually the only gringo in the bar but never felt uncomfortable. The hotel has TV with porn. There is action starting in the afternoon and into the night.

Miami Club

This club is very similar to Las Chavelas with the exception that I have never seen a girl that I would take upstairs. The music is strictly Mexican and frequented clientele is Mexican men.

Hong Kong

I really enjoy this club. It is more like your American Strip club but you can touch the girls. They have a good lesbian show at nights. I prefer this club at night. There are some really hot girls here but many will not go upstairs with you because there are just there to dance for tips and do not want sex. The club plays a good mix of music for the girls to strip too. The girl that I was dating now dances here but will not go upstairs. Waiters here do speak English so they can help you. Mix of clientele but mostly Mexicans and Americans. I have gone up with one girl on several occasions and the sex was amazing but I have not seen her there any more. There is action in the afternoon but the girls were not very hot in my opinion much better at night.

Since I am so close to the border I prefer to hit Zona Norte Sunday to Thursday nights. Sunday to Thursdays are little more relaxed atmosphere, you have your pick of the girls, you can make better deals and the Policia are not has hardcore. Friday and Saturday nights I try and avoid as much as possible just due to the amount of guys in the clubs, girls will not bargain and the Policia are in full force.

Jimmy TJ

Bubby

11-26-05, 05:11

Tropical Bar definitely has its share of cuties. I went for 2 nights in a row looking for Quackup's Mirasol, but had no luck. I asked 2 meseros and a couple of the girls, but they didn't know who I was asking about. I'd definitely like to sample a squirter :).

Instead, I hooked up with Amy from Mazatlan. I have come to TJ off and on for about 5 years, but this is the first time I have scored at this bar. Possibly because my Espanol sucks, and I don't dance. Actually, I just haven't really tried here very hard.

Amy was much more aggresive in the bar than 95% of the girls in this place. She is 24 yo, and was very physically affectionate in the bar. After a lot of touchy-feely over about 45 minutes, she brought up the hotel subject and I was ready. I inquired about price and found out what activities would be permitted. $60 + room and we were off.

She delivered on all counts- CBJ, chichi sucking and kissing, lip,face, and neck kissing but no DFK, and finally the sex. It was a nice, unrushed session, but like most of these girls, she didn't dig the sex in the room nearly as much as she claimed to in the bar.

Three very positive things:

The CBJ was excellent-her laying on her side, and me on my knees playing with the chichis and holding her head. She directed the action, urging me to fuck her mouth while she took it deep with awesome suction and tongue action. I rarely nut from a BJ, but I definitely could have, easily.

Also, when we were screwing and I was ready to cum, she used excellent panocha muscle control on my unit,, enhancing the experience.

Last, she didn't want the money in advance, which was a good sign. She actually never asked, except before in the bar. We were ready to leave the room when I finally volunteered the money. I'm sure she would have asked eventually.

So overall, a very nice session. She's not the youngest or cutest one in there, but she delivers.

QuackUp

11-28-05, 07:44

First off, I need to apologize to bubby and the rest of you who were looking for Marisol. Her bar name is Marielos. I thought I had corrected it in my last post but what I think actually happened, I corrected on the pm's that I was getting. So please forgive me. Also, I just got home late Saturday night and I wasn't able to read any post from last Thursday until Sunday afternoon.

To start this next saga, I arrived into Tj around 11:00 Thursday night. I had spoken with M earlier and she said she was working until midnight. I had parked my car on the US side and walked over with a large duffle bag for our little venture to Rosarito.

Since it was still early, I figured I would get a room at La Ma Masion first, drop my bag off and pick her up at T/b.. We planned on staying in Tj one night and head off to Rosarito in the morning. I took a taxi libre to the hotel and the guy at the hotel told me once I check in, I couldn't leave. If I did I would have to pay for another night. Screw that. Before I left, I asked him if he had plenty of room for the night and that I would be back in about an hour and a half. He said no problem.

I get to T/b around 11:40 and if any of you were there, I was the one looking like a dumb-ass with a piece of luggage on my shoulder. M sees me and comes over and greets me with a hug and a kiss and tells me just a few minutes more. At around 12:10 she tells me she is going to her room to change and then we could go.

We get into a another taxi libre, it's funny but if you tell them anywhere but the border they put on the meter. We get to the hotel where the same dumb-ass that wouldn't let me check in earlier said they had no more rooms. I got mad and said, I'am the one earlier who you said there were plenty of rooms. He said sorry but in the hour we were gone all the rooms were sold out. ( More on this hotel later ).

I then asked the driver if he knew any other so called love hotels and he said yes. On the drive over I asked him how much he charged to go to Rosarito. He said $15 Usd with another $5 for the time already driven. If we would have waited until morning and taken the Mexicoach the fare would have been $6.00 each one way. I told the driver vamos.

In the taxi I called the hotel I had made reservations for the next day and asked if they had rooms for the night. They said no problem. This might not be so bad after all.

The hotel we stayed at was the Los Pelicanos. It is right on the beach and just far enough from the bars where it is nice and quiet. The only mistake I made was to reserve the jr. suite which was way to big for only two persons. Next time I will reserve a reg. ocean front room.

I will not get into details about our first night there except to say we didn't get to sleep until about 6:00 in the morning and we were alot smarter about using the extra towels in the bathroom so the bed wouldn't be soaked.

To be cont.....

QuackUp

11-28-05, 08:48

We get up around 1:00 pm.. She is hungry so we go to the hotel restaurant and have lunch. I tell her not to eat too much because for dinner I wanted to take her to Puerto Nuevo, famous for their lobsters.

After lunch, we walk to a store to walk off the meal and pick up stuff like sodas and chips. When we get back to the hotel M show me how much she appreciates me bringing her to Rosarito and away from T/B.. After a couple of sessions I tell her its almost 8:00pm and we should be getting ready for dinner.

At that time she said she is not hungry, she had been munching on the chips and candy. She said she would rather have fun in the room. With this girl, it seemed like more of a date with a Brazillian girl then one from Mexico, which is a good thing. Not only does she love sex, like some of the girls from Brazil, she woke me up in the middle of the night so I could satisfy her needs. Wild!

This night with all the play-time we went to bed somewhat earlier, 03:00a.m.. Before going to sleep, I told her I would still like to take her to Puerto Nuevo for Lobster. We agreed to go before we headed back to Tj.

Because the room was so dark, I slept more than I normally do. In fact, M woke me up and told me it was 11:00am. already. It felt like I had just gotten to bed. Maybe it didn't help that M wore me out. Anyways we shower get packed and get a taxi for Puerto Nuevo. I asked the taxi guy how much for a round trip and if he would wait for us until we finished our lunch. He said $30usd total for the round-trip. Not sure if this was good or bad since I haven't been there in such a long time but we went anyways.

We ate at Puerto Nuevo #2 because the line at Puerto Nuevo #1 was outrageous. The waiter showed us two sizes of Lobster. The small went for $17usd, the large for $20 usd. We both got the large which comes with a salad, a bean soup, beans and rice, and tortillas. It is still good. This was the first time M had tried lobster and she loved it.

After lunch we get back into the taxi now headed for the Hotel Rosarito Beach to catch the Mexicoach back to Tj.. Like I mentioned before it is $6 each one way back to TJ and the Mexicoach terminal on Rev. and 7th. From there we catch a cab to Plaza Rio because she wanted me to develope the photos from my digital camera. I wasn't sure if any place in Plaza Rio would do it but we found one. I believe the stores name was dillards or something like that. It is a huge department store in the middle of the Plaza.

It was an hour to get the chip developed. We walked around and being the big spender that I am, I treated her to a Mcdonalds coke and an ice cream cone. We then picked up the photos and headed to Hotel La Masion for one last romp.

Yes, there are room availiable but because it is a Saturday, they said they only rent the rooms at 4 hours intervals. I think the guy said only on Friday and Saturday they do this. Last time we were there, it was on a Sunday and when I left for home, she stayed the rest of the night there. For the 4 hours, they still charge the $37usd.

Since time was running short, we took the room. All I can say, the four hours flew by. Before taking her to her hotel above the T/b we went to eat Chinese because that is her favorite. The place was called Wha Chean or something like that. One block away from Plaza Rio. The food was actually pretty good. Finally, we dropped her off at her hotel and off I went to the border.

Bad news, she told me she was leaving for home today ( Sunday ).

Good news, she said she would be back sometime in January.

Post Review. I know ymmv but with this girl, this is crazy. I hope any of you who get to meet her when she gets back, gets the same treatment I have been getting. I know when I first met her and I tried daty, she first said no but I was gentle and slowly went down there. Thats when I found out she was a squirter. She was very ashamed she squirted but now being with me and encouraging it, she seems to enjoy it more. So lets hope January comes by very quickly.

Hope this helps, especially for those that want to do something different with their special girl down there.

Q

Country John

11-29-05, 09:23

Quackup, be careful. You're spending money like a drunken sailor. You might want to do a bit more planning so you can get your sessions in and save some cash. She might try to clip you if she thinks you have money so be careful.

I don't want to come off like I'm dis'ing your girl - far from it. I'm suggesting that you watch closely what's going on and keep your eyes open. You might fall in love and find yourself kiving in an apartment in TJ.

I love the fact that she's a squirter. Nothing like them. All girls can do that if they would just learn to let it go. I'm working on my girl now, I think she'll do it.

Otherwise great TR. I hate those guys at La Mansion. Try Hotel Pacifico on Durango. Nice rooms etc. $45. a night but it's worth it. Stay in town, there are lots of nice places to eat (like "Antonios" on Madera).

Country John

Country John

California Guy

11-29-05, 11:04

Well I was bored after stuffing myself so I headed down to see the action. There weren't as many people as I thought in TJ but that is okay for me because I prefer a mid-sized crowd. Unfortunately when I headed to my first spot, HK, it had the worst selection of girls I have ever seen there! I saw my girl from a couple weeks back and there was one hottie sitting with some guy buying her drinks, etc... but man the talent is just lacking. I sat around for a while and had a couple beers and then headed to AB to see what was going on as well. There were a couple lookers here but once again the waiters act like they are Tom Cruise in the movie Cocktail LOL. So I went to the side bar for a drink. I don't really like the vibe in AB but I understand it is a basic spot to pick a girl and that is all, not much time for chilling or chatting.

Anyway I decided to head back to HK, was going to visit TB but I don't even know where it is at, oh well back to HK :) when I got back I did find another hot girl so I was happy. She spoke okay English and she had a pretty face with a rockin little body, skinny though so if you like meat on your girls she would not be worth your time. By this time I am buzzed and I need to bring a pencil and paper because I can never remember names, I think hers was Fernanda or close to it and she is from Mazatlan? Now I decide I should get some dances to see how she acts and right off I get a bad vibe because she is telling me topless for 20 or full nude for 30. I was like that is half a session really so I asked how much for the room instead? She wasn't happy I asked for a dance and then was changing my mind so I said okay and took the 20 dollar version, still much better those piece of shit US clubs and that is almsot 3 small beers from those idiot waiters.

Okay so she starts dancing and it pretty good. She is a very nice and friendly girl so that is also a bonus which got me wanting to bang her more. I asked her how much and she told me it was her first day in TJ so she wasn't sure how much to charge. This wasn't a good sign because I know in other areas people pay US prices, like in Cabo for some reason, so I asked her how much she made before and she said 300 bones. LOL, at the same time she knew guys paid a lot less than this for their time in TJ and she wasn't asking for that amount, which was refreshing since I could stay here and bang a girl for 300. After some negotiations I told her I would pay 60 and if she was good I would give her a nice tip and off we went. In the room she was definitely different than most girls and I was happy we could communicate a little. She did some stripping and was about to go down bbbj which I was hoping for but pulled out the jimmy right after she licked a little, bummer but I guess it's safer. I could tell she hadn't been doing this long or much from where she came from and she told me after her last boyfriend a couple months back was her last sex because she hadn't gone with any guys to that point, not sure I believed her but I was horny! After some very good cbj, I mean she could suck it boys, she got on top reverse cowgirl and started to ride away. She didn't use any lube, which as I stated before I really like, but at the same time she wasn't super wet either so I wasn't too happy. I think she was into rough sex because she had me grabbing harder and I was cool with that although I don't like getting whacked or anything. Well after a while I turned her over and finished doggy which was great because she had a tight little ass. She did act a little too much during it but overall it was a good experience and she is a nice girl I recommend. She actually gave me her number as well but when I tried calling the other day it didn't work so I have no idea if I am dialing correctly but I think it was a bad number :) rating wise I give her an 8 for her face, 7 for the body, 9 for the cbj, and 7 for the sex good overall and I did tip her out. Okay until next time which maybe this week I hope you have fun and stay safe :)

Cali

Village Chief

11-29-05, 20:42

Hi Folks,

Thank you all for your great reports. Your contribution has made a big difference for us rookies. Anyway, I have always wanted to try DATY on one of the bar girls, but I do not want to do it BB. I saw these female condoms at Longs Drugs. Will the female condoms work for DATY so that you do not have direct contact with the pussy? I remember reading about some sort of wrap, how does it work and where can I get it? Thanks for your feedback.

Stay safe!

Country John

11-29-05, 21:42

Nice TR California Guy, you walked away with a positive session and that's always cool.

First time in TJ? No sex for over a month? NEVER believe that stuff. She started high to see what color you'd turn. She was hoping you were a noobie from Orange County and would drop for the $300. So $300 to $60 is a good drop.

Believe it or not there are guys out there paying the big bucks to have sex with these girls. They're getting the same $60.00 session and paying a lot more. The girls are getting wise and are changing their tactics.

"Yes, I'm a young thing from Guadalajara and this is my first day in Tijuana and I hav't had sex in two months." Think about it guys. She's probably from San Diego. There are LOTS of girls driving across to work at Adelitas or Chicago Club. I know, I've seen them parking their SUV's overheard them at breakfast etc.

One girl I talked to on a crisp Sunday morning joked about how they don't speak Spanish in the Club because the clients think they are getting "fresh" Mexican girls and that makes them horny. They know just enough English to get the guy upstairs and get the money. Other girls are complaining about the US girls coming across but the clubs won't do anything about it. If the girl is making her draw they don't care if she is from Mars.

Guys, wake up. Don't over pay. There are lots of fine ladies at other clubs and then again there is one hell of a civilian scene out there (Las Pulgas to name one club).

Country John

QuackUp

11-30-05, 00:36

Country John

11-30-05, 06:09

and I agree with you. I do not want to end up in an apartment in Tj with her. Since I probabably will not be down in Tj until the new year and having the long weekend. I wanted to go out with a bang.

Over the many years of going south, there are only a handfull of instances where I have taken a chica to dinner or somewhere outside the club. But because this chicas performance is so good to me, I said what the heck.

This is a first for me to have a squirter. It is just incredible. I think it might be a disappointment if the girls in the future do not squirt. I do have a questions for guys who have been with squirters before. Are they all multi-orgasmic? This chica is multi orgasmic and it is just a thrill to see how many times she can come. Actually I think that is part of the reason why I like this chica, she doesn't fake an orgasm.

Q

My girl is not a squirter -yet. She cums with handsful of cream though so I think she's holding back. She'll cum 4 times before I mount. She's not faking it either. When the girl pops for you she is relaxed and enjoying the session. If she squirts then that's the ultimate. I had a squirter in Monterrey and in Guadalajara. I enjoyed sessioning with these girls because they gave it up big time. Nothing sexier in my book.

I'm glad you got your head on straight though. Gots to have eyes in the back of your head sometimes.

Country John

DJ FourMoney

11-30-05, 06:10

and i agree with you. i do not want to end up in an apartment in tj with her. since i probabably will not be down in tj until the new year and having the long weekend. i wanted to go out with a bang.

over the many years of going south, there are only a handfull of instances where i have taken a chica to dinner or somewhere outside the club. but because this chicas performance is so good to me, i said what the heck.

this is a first for me to have a squirter. it is just incredible. i think it might be a disappointment if the girls in the future do not squirt. i do have a questions for guys who have been with squirters before. are they all multi-orgasmic? this chica is multi orgasmic and it is just a thrill to see how many times she can come. actually i think that is part of the reason why i like this chica, she doesn't fake an orgasm.

qi would say yes. maybe not all squirters but some of them.

my ex has and is the only women i have been with that has been able too. i was shocked she could do it, but she wasn't ashamed of it at all. our relationship started to fall apart shorty after that so i wasn't interested in bringing her to that level again.

but i do vividly remember one session and i was finger-bangin the hell out of her and she squrited about 3-4 times in around 20 mins total. the final shot from her was after some doggy.

its impressive, there is no faking it and is the best possible o a woman can have. it just tends to be messy as you found out and alot of women keep it on the dl because they never know how a guy would react to it, thinking they got [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)'ed on.

the great thing is, every woman can do it, but like cj said you have to make them relax and make them unlearn that everything that comes out of them isn't always [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109).

now to find somebody worth teaching. its not something i wanna waste on just anybody.

Clicker619

11-30-05, 10:26

I had a good private dance with a short girl with black curly hair below the shoulders sometime last week. She has a little darker complexion than most girls. Anyhow, I tried to go back and see her but I guess she wasn't working. I waited until 930pm and chatted with 2 other hotties.

Paula has long curly hair with blond streaks. She has a flawless face and teeth with a little baby fat around the belly. She is probably one of the hottest girls there and she knows it because she's all about the drinks.

Zon (spelling) is light-skinned with long black hair. She has a tattoo on her left boob (right side when looking at her) and above her right hip. She is very pretty with a big clean smile. For shits & giggles, I asked how much to go to a room for some private fun. She stunned me by asking $200 for 30 minutes. I asked her several times over and over just to make sure then told her that I'll just make out with her in my dreams instead.

California Guy

12-01-05, 05:07

Personally if it becomes $100 for a session I won't go and I will be the first to go down and tell them they will be losing money! You barely get 20 minutes, 30 if you are lucky, so it makes no sense to do this when that is what you can get some tail in the US for and not have to deal with driving, police, etc...well of course LE in the US is an issue but not for well reviewed providers. I know the girl you mentioned below that asked for $200 and she is the one I said kept telling me " I am beautiful" and " all men want me" in her broken English. She is pretty but asking Vegas prices is a joke and it is too bad some Americans are messing things up down there. Shit I would save my money and just take a trip every couple months instead, I won't put up with over-priced girls and I am sure I speak for many people here.

I had a good private dance with a short girl with black curly hair below the shoulders sometime last week. She has a little darker complexion than most girls. Anyhow, I tried to go back and see her but I guess she wasn't working. I waited until 930pm and chatted with 2 other hotties.

Paula has long curly hair with blond streaks. She has a flawless face and teeth with a little baby fat around the belly. She is probably one of the hottest girls there and she knows it because she's all about the drinks.

Zon (spelling) is light-skinned with long black hair. She has a tattoo on her left boob (right side when looking at her) and above her right hip. She is very pretty with a big clean smile. For shits & giggles, I asked how much to go to a room for some private fun. She stunned me by asking $200 for 30 minutes. I asked her several times over and over just to make sure then told her that I'll just make out with her in my dreams instead.

John02

12-01-05, 07:47

These TJ Ho's will ask for your first born if you are foolish enough to give it up. Just like everything in Mexico, there is a price and the first price they give is just to test the waters based on the vibe they get from you. All the ones in Adelita used to go for .4 and .5 max but then the chinos from Chicago started coming over and the prices have gone up in the last couple of years. I always like to go on a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. That is a buyers market were they are more flexible and there are more women than men in the bar. What goes for .6 and up can be had for .4 and up. Then there are the SW's near HK; .20 for the girl and .05 for the room. It's a wham bam thank you mam but at least you get to bust a quick one before you go in for the kill at Adelita's. I was there earlier and did a little 19 yr old spinner near HK. She tells me they go out at 4:00 am and stay out till 7:00 pm, tough gig. She had only been there one week and I could tell because she was so cooperative. What a doll. If anybody pays 1.0 in TJ they have no sense being there. No offense.

Double

12-01-05, 19:45

It is not really fair to blame the "chinos" for driving the price of pussy up in TJ's Zona Rosa. If they do pay what ever is asked of them I am sure that it may be one of the components, but the price of a piece of tail in TJ has been at or near $40 for near 15 years. I imagine that an adjustment of some kind was due.

I would not pay more than $60 for any lady in Adelitas or Chicago. My feeling is that a lady that will not reduce her price by $5, and do a good enough job to compel me to tip her more than $5 is not going to be worth my time. I have been up with the ladies that are absolutly firm on price and it is a mechanical rushed session. I say let the big spenders pay the big bucks for 15 minute rush jobs. Frankly, I am not interested in that kind of service. There are better service providers that will give better service for less money up front, and then earn a tip.

On another note, I have been to a strip club and paid $40 for a 3 dance nude lap session. That was sex with 2 alley girls.

RenoGeorge

12-01-05, 22:47

I am making my 4th trip to Tijuana tomorrow (December 2 - 4). I plan to visit Adelitas and Chicago Club. I also am going to try to visit Hong Kong Club too. I am interested in the street girl thing. I have been a little reluctant to strolling the alley in the past because of the worry of being jacked by the police or even the street people there. During the day, I plan to hit the massage parlor Azteca. They are a real massage place as opposed to the happy ending places. For 25 bucks you get a decent massage. My plan is to stay at a local hotel in Tijuana. When I come back I will give a report of my trip.

Terpin

12-02-05, 05:42

Went over to Mermaids a few months ago(sorry late report) for some rest and relaxation. Unfortunately, moving to the Northeast really limits my opportunities in TJ, but I'll post some of my previous experiences.

I got to Mermaids by trolling around with a taxi driver. Told him I wanted a girl that night (and something different from the Adelitas/Chicago) and he ended up taking me to a number of different massage places. The first one sucked, and settled on #2-Mermaids.

Walked in and got a line up of 5-6 girls... However, the best looking one was the manager lady, who was not available (I tried, LOL). Took a girl, can't remember her name (Lucy maybe?), about 7 in my book, about 5'5", 130lbs.

Took the standard massage room, which was actually quite spacious and nice. No bed though, just a standard massage table, and a couch in the corner (which I ended up using later on that night...)

But, I don't really go to these places to admire their interior design. She started the massage with oil, which was uninspiring and quickly got down to johnson, stroking it while asking me if I wanted extras. Started off asking 100 for FS (?!?), on top of my door fee. I declined, telling her that I only had 60 bucks (which was a lie, but was all I was willing to spend on her). Instead of happily accepting my money, though, she frowned and told me that 100 was the going rate. Yeah.... right. We went back and forth for a few more minutes before she reluctantly agreed to FS at 60. I was a little hesitant at this point, thinking that such a hard bargainer would be a dud in the sack. Fortunately for me though, she was pretty damn good. Nice tight vag and multiple positions, starting with cowgirl. I was getting uncomfortable on the tiny ass massage table, so I moved her over to the couch and bent her over, doing her doggy style. Enjoyed her ass so much that I ended up cumming a few minutes later.

Afterwards, cleaned up in the attached john and had a cigarette with her. All in all, a nice experience. Nice alternative to adelitas/chicago (if you ever feel like you need one).

California Guy

12-03-05, 07:47

I headed down to check the scene because I prefer the lighter crowds. I started off at HK as always and the talent here is slipping big time! All of the same girls were there, well a couple of the better ones weren't around probably because they were waiting for the weekend, still I would expect more than 3 pretty girls in a club like this. Anyway I stayed for a while and hoped things would improve but they didn't. I decided to go around this night and see what else was going on but it was fairly quiet all together maybe due to the colder weather. There were a couple lookers on the street but I passed and went over to CC for a change. I don't know why because I never have liked the set up here so I stayed for one drink and left, a couple cute girls but none I thought were spectacular. I was back at HK instead of going over to AB because I wasn't that motivated anymore. Finally I see this hot ass girl, one of the best I have seen in the club, so I walk by her as I am going to the bathroom and I grab her ass. She turns to me and gets mad but I just smiled and shrugged it off. Turns out she doesn't work there and was with another hot girl and two other friends just dancing next door lol :) Man she was a solid 9 and I would have offered her some cash but she probably would have kicked my ass. Her friend looked like a Hispanic Jessica Simpson so not bad either, still what was the point? It was funny because all of the guys were checking these girls out, even the waiters were just hanging out at their table. I think the girls working were kind of pissed but oh well. So later on I just bailed because the talent was slim and I wouldn't have paid $60 for 3/4 of the girls working. The one girl I mentioned previously, from Mazatlan or someplace tropical, was there but she didn't remember me so I was over it :) She is actually a cool girl but pretty high end and you can tell guys are paying her what she is asking, probably 80-100 like last week. She even told me that the work had been really good so I take that as a positive sign in terms of her finances. I may head down next week to see if things improve. I figure I will be taking a break through the holidays so maybe some good girls will pop up.

RenoGeorge

12-05-05, 12:58

i left reno on a 9am flight through southwest airlines. had to pass through oakland but i got to stay on my plane. southwest has no direct service to san diego, so all flights are either with stops or plane changes. so on both ways i was in a flight that had me stay on the plane but i had one-stop. i arrived in san diego by about 1145am and was in my cab to the border by noon. i chose the cab because of pure laziness. had the driver agree to 40 dollar flat-rate to the border. he wasn't too happy about it because it costs about 45 on the meter, but there were several other cabs there that were willing to take my offer. before i got to the border, i stopped at the bank and took out 500 bucks. i wanted to make sure that i had the right amount of funding to make sure i had a good time.

crossed the border. had no problems there. no asshole mexican border guy telling me to press the button to pass by like i have experienced in the past. in fact, there wasn't anyone there this time. i avoided going to the yellow cab stand that is straight ahead, i went to the right and walked towards the mcdonalds. you can't miss it. once you get out the gates and you are greeted by the line of yellow cab cabbies barking at you to come in their cabs. ignore them. keep walking across the street. walk past the pharmacy and the mcdonald's. keep walking until you see the taxi libre stand. you have to pass the gauntlet of barkers, street venders, and street people. there you will find a good deal in terms of price of taxi. when i get to the stand and take my cab, i always say, "con meter por favor". it means, with meter please. be firm and polite. i take the cab to my haunt. la villa zaragoza hotel at 7th and madero. for this weekend, i got my decent and safe room for 49 dollars a night. for two nights, friday and satuday night i was able to get a room quite easily. the cost of the taxi is under 27 pesos (approximately $2.70). give them 3 bucks. most of the tijuana inhabitants like to round the exchange rate to the nearest peso and in their favor. the exchange rate is about 10.3 or 10.4. but they want to have it be 10 pesos to the dollar. i give it to them. i consider it their tip.

i get to the hotel and i get a standard room with a king-sized bed. when i get to room i crash. i was tired from a long week of work and being sick. i was getting over some flu or something. later in the day. about 3 pm, i make a huge mistake. i asked the front desk guy at the hotel to help me find a driver to take me shopping somewhere where i wouldn't get the gringo prices. he points his finger at a guy that was loitering in the small lobby of the hotel and tells him to bring me to some shopping place out of the area. at this time, i was very tired and i wasn't really thinking straight. i told the guy i am not sure what i really want to do but can i hire you for couple hours for driving me where i want to go. he lit up and said sure. by this time we were already driving. i asked him how much will it cost me for a couple hours. he told me 50 bucks! i felt like such an idiot. i told the guy that that was too much. then i told the guy 40 for two hours. retarded! (i should have gotten a taxi libre con meter) that was my mistake.

i decided not to go shopping after all. i decided that i wanted to see the beach of tijuana. i went down there and saw some pretty cool things. once i was there, i got to see the border along the beach. there isn't a fence blocking the whole beach. there is a fence that goes halfway across the beach though. i walked down there and looked to see if i could walk across the beach border. i noticed that there was a border patrol guy sitting in his jeep up top of the hill on the us side. i got to have a little fun by jumping back and forth from the us side to the mexican side. after i had enough of that, i walked down the beach looked at all the beat up and ugly buildings that are there. i don't understand why they don't develope this area and make something good out of it. it's just a freakin mess down there. after the beach stroll, i got back into my driver's car and head back into town. then i went back to bed and slept.

the next day, i made a decision to have some fun. so what did i do? i decided to walk around. i walked to revolution which is only a block from the hotel. walked up and down the street. up to the calimex grocery store, down to 2nd street. i forget the name. all of these streets have names, but they are also given a number for reasons that i am not sure of. things that i noticed while walking the streets. the police, the police, the police. i was seeing the police driving up and down the streets. sometimes at very high speeds chasing god knows what. i have to say, i never had any trouble with them. i am a male in my late 30's, white, clean cut, without anything extravagant on my person. they didn't even look at me. other things that i noticed were street vendors. they are very practiced and persistent. never make eye contact with them because they will chase you. insult you. anything to get you to give them your attention. just don't give it to them.

there is some good news. i did find something that tasted very good on the strip. at the aztec massage entrance, there is a stand that sells churros. very delicious. costs 50 cents. probably 5 pesos. check it out. by the way. on past trips i have used the aztec massage for a good real massage. the price was 25 bucks. these girls have good hands and can melt away your stress in a session. i highly recommend it. (sorry, no sex offered there)

on to the night. i went to peanuts and beer strip club. not a bad value. i wanted to try something completely different from all my previous trips. i have been a adelitas and chicago club guy, but i wanted to try something different this trip. when you get there it is a little intimadating. you are confronted with the barker in the front. don't let this bother you. they will bring you in and find you a seat in the club and bring your first drink. i played it graciously and gave the guy a buck tip for bringing me my 4 dollar beer. i got my seat right at "sniff row". right at the rail. i like the rail because i can nurse my beer and have a front row vantage point of the action on the main stage. i got there about 10pm on saturday and the place was packed. another benefit of sniff row is that you have a good excuse not to take the girls to the private room. you can just point at the floor and say "esta bien". one can make their dollar stretch in this place good. there isn't a cover charge. only a 4 dollar drink. now. the ladies in this place were looking pretty good. i think they looked better than any of the ladies in adelitas or chicago club for the most part. the bodies were smokin hot. the faces were, well, i dunno. wasn't looking there. i spent 3 hours in there and i spent about 50 bucks total. i was buzzing pretty good and i got more ass than a toliet seat. by the way, there isn't a no-touching policy. that meant hands were all over the ladies. i had an excellent time in there and i recommend this place. just remember to not get too messed up on the beer in there. just like any tijuana business. they are out to take you for whatever you will allow them to take. have your guard up all the time. never trust anyone. word of warning.

after i left peanuts and beer, i jumped in a cab and went to chicago club. jesus f'n christ! this place was very, very busy. wall to wall people. i looked around and left. walked to the alley and checked out the ladies. as i walked by, they kept beckoning me with a "ch-ch-ch-ch-ch" sound. like a rattlesnake. i got a kick out of that. i talked to couple them. they were cute, but none of them struck my fancy for some reason. i guess i wasn't interested in having relations that night. i'm probably a homo. not!

walked into the hong kong bar. they made me pay for a beer before entering. walked in. wall to wall dudes and a few women. i walked in, took a few swigs of the tecate. and then left. i wasn't impressed with what i saw in there. probably all the hotties that have been spoken about were "busy".

left the bar and went around the block to the entrance of adelitas. same story with adelitas. wall to wall humanity. i walked in, walked out. jumped into a cab and headed back to peanuts and beer. i spent about a half hour there and decided to call it the night. i didn't get any. i was okay with it.

went to bed around 4 am and got up around 11am. i checked out of my room. one thing to note is that i used the hotel's security box for my wallet, keys, and excess dollars. in the four times i have stay at this particular hotel, i have never had anything stolen from me in my room or in my deposit box.

i had a 735pm flight, and i had to kill a few hours in tj. i decided to walk around again. i ate a burger king. watched some football at the caliente sportsbook by the jaialai palace. after that i hailed a cab to take me down to adelitas. i wanted to see what it was like on a sunday afternoon. i get there and it was wall to wall humanity again. i walk out. i walk to peanuts and beer and see what is happening up there. the place is empty. i see only about 4 girls working in the whole place. there is one hottie in there and i get a private dance with her and i had a good time. total touching in the curtained cubical. there was so much touching allowed that the girl was frustrated that i didn't touch her pussy enough. she would press my fingers inside of her. i got the hint and gave her a pussy exam. all for 30 bucks for 3 songs. (long songs) not bad. after that, i head back to the hotel to get my things from the office and go to the border. there was a huge line, but it moved quickly. took about 35 minutes. when i get to the officer, he asks, "country of citizenship?" also he says, "did you bring anything back?" a breeze. run my bags through the x-ray machine. i am in america! i take the trolley to downtown and catch a cab to the airport.

conclusion:

tijuana is mexican hell. now. let me say that hell has some benefits. hot chicks. interesting people. never a dull moment. but there is the bad things. the cops. the bandits. the vendors. the danger. i was in constant fear every moment i was there. the thought that you can be tossed in jail and not have a chance to get out. the thought that someone could steal your things and you can't really defend yourself because you will be judged against because you are in someone else's country with no real rights. with that thought in mind, i will still come here. i am in the hope of going to a better venue though. i have been to dominican republic and that was an experience way different than what i had in tijuana. tijuana is a circus like atmosphere with a lot of lawlessness. dominican republic has better laws to protect the tourist. it seems to me the law is to exploit tourists in tijuana. just remember to not trust too much when in tj. you need to know what you can before you decide to come down. knowledge is power and this board is a good start to learn to stay safe down there. peace!