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Blackangst
06-03-08, 00:59
Hi guys,
read about your safety concerns for ac...and my friend just told me last week from 2 incidents. One guy was brutally murdered. Australian guy, around 65 or more. Stabbed and put into a suitcase. Neighbours found him, cause the smell becomes awfull.

Another guy, prob US, got shot in the face on fields last week. He survived it. Propbly you will hear more and read more about this on other ac specialized boards later.

So, if somebody ask you for your money and cphone, hand it out, its better, cause for sure the shxTbag have a gun and cause there aint much going on in those brains, better do what you been told, otherwise you will find yourself in a nice coffin back home.

But Pattaya also has his up and downs. I was in Ac last week, like evry weekend and heard nothing bout this, found nothing unusual going on, except I barfined 2 gurls from DH...of course the prettiest and one I just saw on the nice youtube video. She tells evrybody she is a virgin hahahaha LOL...

Happy and safe mongering, heads up!!

Blink

another thing that is rampant is rumors and mis-information. The gunshot to the head incident was actually in Cebu, and one man is being held. The police say its drug related.

You know what...people die in every city in the world. But all things considered AC is pretty safe. It really is.

Sagramore
06-03-08, 02:01
Actually, there was a man shot in the face in Angeles. He is actually a local, owner of The Viper Room and Honey Pot.

The incident took place in the middle of May outside Baretto's Meat Market, aparently a robbery gone bad. Luckily he survived the ordeal.

I do agree that crime happens everywhere but one must be aware that Angeles is a city with it's share of crime. Personally, I will still continue to visit as often as I can...

Cheers!

Buko Max
06-03-08, 02:02
Guys you can avoid the higher prices by going Perimeter. Lower Barfines, lower drink prices, less boof-boof-boof, and less bargirl attitudes. You can find future "spot light" girls there for a 1000 peso barfine.
Now you've done it, letting the bargirl out of the bag!


The gunshot to the head incident was actually in Cebu, and one man is being held
Actually no. He is talking about the Aussie Ray Kelly who is a bar owner in AC and Subic. He was shot in the face in front of a store a while back. Two guys are in custody and revenge seems to be the motive.

Blackangst
06-03-08, 22:25
Now you've done it, letting the bargirl out of the bag!


Actually no. He is talking about the Aussie Ray Kelly who is a bar owner in AC and Subic. He was shot in the face in front of a store a while back. Two guys are in custody and revenge seems to be the motive.

Oh yeah the ray shooting. I misinterprated the time I guess. For some reason I thought he was talking about in the last 2 weeks..which is the one I WAS REFERRING TO. fair enough =)

And yeah thx for telling everyone about perimeter..haha

Nahav68
06-04-08, 02:01
Spent the last weekend (Friday to Sunday nights) in AC with 2 friends. Stayed in Clarkton Hotel. Found the hotel very clean and nice. Unfortunately, the constant rain restricted our our mongering, particularly around the Perimeter area.

We spent our first afternoon/evening in Mirrors Club in Clarkton. The numbers have girls have increased since the last time but they have now dancers to provide alternate entertainment. Girls vary from 5.5 to 7, some 8s and 8.5s amongst the dancers. Hanging around Mirrors allowed us to play pool, slosh ourselves with Vodka and mingle with the girls. With the rain, we ended up with girls from Mirrors. Mine was a 6.5 but she although she was initially shy, she was really service with a smile. BBBJ, Cowgirl, Missionary, Reverse Cowgirl, we went on most of the night. I just loved when she blew the load off me, taking everything in her mouth. Anyway, she left at 9am the next morning and I went back to sleep.

Day 2 - got up late afternoon and had lunch. Just as we were ready to leave for Perimeter, it started pouring again. Played pool and had drink at Mirrors before leaving late evening for the Fields. Somehow ended up in Camelot and stayed there the whole night. Watch the waitresses here as they are real guzzlers pushing for LDs. Anyway, I ended up with a petite babe from Mindanao - wonderful locks. I enjoyed using every part of the room but just couldnt cum with all the alcohol I consumed. Anyway, gave up halfway and tried again in the morning whne I succeeded blowing it all over her face. She was nice company and didn't seem to want to leave until I shoosed her away at 12.30pm. Time to recover and off to bed I went.

Day 3 was our last night and we headed out to the Fields.

Geckos - Most are past out date;
La Bamba - Dead fish on stage;
La Pasha- Quite a good collection of girls, some really friendly from the stage. The waitresses seemed better, iuncluding the girls promoting some drink called 'Rosie'.
Atlantis - They need to clear out all the Old moms there. The dancers were decent but were more keen dancing facing the mirrors on the side than entertaining the crowd. Nice set up though;

Bronw Sugar - mostly 6s but one 7. She was trying hard to impress us with her dancing, sending the body signals, but my 2 friends were planning an orgy and we gave it a miss

Ended up in Camelot again and on show were talent that we did not see the previous night. Anyway, my friend ended up barfinined the bartender (she was quite good looking) whilst I ended with the girl he humped the night before. Whilst my 2 friends settled into the balcony and slowly began the orgy, I was totally wasted and settled for a nice long BBBJ before turning in.

Wished we could stay longer. Certainly a great experience.

Will certainly be back again this year.

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Konaman
06-04-08, 16:37
My trip starts this friday and I can't wait!

Current weather sounds like a dampener though.

Psdai
06-04-08, 21:57
My trip starts this friday and I can't wait!

Current weather sounds like a dampener though.Perhaps I will run across you there as I get into town on Saturday.

Rob Woodrow
06-05-08, 05:17
Just take an umbrella, and spend your time indoors. The best activities happen there anyway.

My trip starts this friday and I can't wait!

Current weather sounds like a dampener though.

Victorian
06-07-08, 03:52
I'm not sure this place is exactly paradise, but parts of it sure are!

(I) The weather

Being of English heritage, the first thing we should do is talk about the weather (I know you want to hear about the girls! )

I've been here for almost a week and the weather has been great. A monster rain a couple of nights ago with big thunder and lightning, but other than that a lot of sunshine and nice still conditions.

(ii) The hotel

I'm staying at Clarkton. It's very good value, quiet and relaxing with a good pool, gym and one of the best hotel restaurants in Angeles. The food and service in the restaurant is great. And I also like being able to open the window to let some ‘’fresh’ air in.

Another good thing here is the internet connection is very fast with a lot of rooms using wireless.

I haven't been inside, but the new studios look very classy.

On the downside, it's a quite long jeepney ride from the action in fields. It's kinda nice just to walk out of your hotel down there and go to a cafe or for a drink whenever you like, particularly if the rain does hit.

Also the front desk is kinda weird with the girls there hidden sitting way down from a pretty high wall in front of them. This reduces the friendly interaction you get from the front desk at the other hotels.

One funny thing is I still have Clarkton's details in my phone book from a long time ago when I stayed here before. I'm not sure if it's from my last visit about five years ago or even earlier than that, but I have the price there as 476 pesos less a pay in advance discount!

The prices now are still very reasonable, around 1800 pesos for a small, but reasonable room.

However the cheaper rooms are showing their age. The aircon is pretty noisy and a few things weren't working when I checked in. The tv volume wouldn't come on, but the tech guy came immediately, checked it and then immediately brought a new tv. Good friendly service and he deserved his 100 p tip. I know some kuripots will say, but he just fixed something that shouldn't be broken, but my attitude was he put the extra

Then the shower nozzle was spraying water everywhere and they fixed that too.

Finally the toilet lid won't stay open, but I think I've done enough complaining!

(ii) Nice husbands

Without naming names, a girl I know who works in a hotel had a big bruise just next to her eye. She’s married and her husband whacked her the night before.

She works and the guy just gets drunk and spends her hard earned. She said she can’t divorce because she can’t afford the legal fees, and she has kids and it would look bad to her family. I wish people would get those old fashioned ideas out of their head about loss of face.


(iii) Mirrors

Mirrors is full of very delectable lasses. The only thing is I'm fairly quiet and just basically sat there. It was hard to see a lot of the girls and the girls seemed to just sit in groups and chat amongst themselves with little interaction with the guests.

The "cultural show" where a group of around 8 very pretty girls do a "cultural dance" was very good and entertaining. A couple of those were very barfinable, but I'm not sure if you can take those out. Anyone had any luck with the cultural dancers?

(iv) Other bars

Sorry guys, but so far I’ve only been with previous girlfriends and a girl from one of those massage places.

However I was interested in a really hot girl from Lost in Asia (right next to the Clarkton) who I met on the jeepney, but when I went there to buy her a drink and maybe bf her, she was with a guy who was already in the process of barfining her. She sent me a text saying ‘sorry, but maybe I’ll catch up with her another time.

I also went down to that group of three small bars in the side street near Phoenix. The guy I went with wasn’t too impressed – they do look pretty grungy – so he left and I stayed on to buy a couple of girls a drink.

I would have barfined both, but one of the girls told me she doesn’t like boom boom. She said she had scar tissue in her pussy from giving birth and sex was very painful for her. And she also told me she had a barfine the previous night and the guy wasn’t happy when she wouldn’t boom boom him. Lucky I didn’’t waste my money there.

(v) Romantic night gone commercial

The last time I was in Angeles (around Feb) a good English friend of mine introduced me to one of his girlfriends, a really sweet, pretty educated girl doing a college degree.

She was great company and very hot in bed. She wanted about 2, 000 pesos to help fund her education, no problem with that.

Lots of emails since with her telling me all the normal bola bola about how wonderful I am (yeah sure I’m more handsome than Brad Pitt! ) She also said her dream phone is a samsung E250, cost in Philippines about 5, 000 pesos. So being the nice guy I am? I brought her a new one from Australia (phones and computers are a little cheaper in Oz).

We had a wonderful, very romantic dinner at the very classy Italian restaurant above the bar opposite Kokomos. Good food, service and lots of gentle, romantic, soft kisses with this classy girl. Damage for a very nice dinner was 1100 pesos – good value. And she loved the phone and seemed very happy.

Then the normal hot fun in my hotel. To me it was nice to have a normal date, rather than a hard core bar action. However the mood for me was kinda ruined when just as she was leaving, she asked about her allowance. WTF! I gave her 200 pesos for her transport.

She wants to go out for a movie tonight (Saturday), but I sent her a text saying I was a little unhappy that she asked for the money after I gave her the phone. She now claims she wanted money for the transport, but I find that hard to believe.

I guess I wanted to believe I twas aa genuine date with a beautiful girl, but to be honest about it, I’m twice her age and not so much in common.

Sometimes it’s better to keep it simple, barfine some honey and take it easy.

(v) Have you eaten yet?

I’ve read some other guys laughing at the constant questioning in texts of «have you eaten your breakfast yet? » I read in a magazine on the way over that « have you eaten yet is a common greeting in the Philippines. I also used to laugh at the inanity of that question, but at least I know now it’s a form of greeting. I think there’s a similar saying in Chinese too.

(vi) Norma’s money change

I didn’t do an exhaustive comparison, but I checked the Aussie dollar exchange rate at two money changers first, and norma’s was substantially better. The only thing is the side street is a bit dodgy. I once was accosted by this solid fiipino older guy there after changing money. He was asking me to go to see his shop which sold some crap. I politely refused and he started getting « friendý » by moving closer and patting me near my pockets to try to pickpocket me. At that I got pretty angry and left immediately. I realise, of course, my mistake in politely acknowledging him and stopping. Not fun.

Enjoy

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Aussiec
06-07-08, 18:05
Well Victorian it sounds like all is going well for you in Paradise. May I suggest a Perimeter Bar called "Touch of Class" Its a "laid" back bar where its a relax atmosphere. Girls are not all "10" but they are some cute ones. I will tell you that you can short time upstairs as well at Perimeter Hotel and I have NEVER been disapointed with these girls cuz they are aiming to please. Nothing is off the table. Momma B. Is the Mamasan. Talk to her if you need too. Food is actually pretty good here as well.

Towelboy2010
06-08-08, 03:14
On my recent trip in March, I had a real date with one of those cultural dancers at Mirrors. She told me they could barfine, but they could not leave until after 1am. She actually quit the Clarkton dance show a month before we met in person so I can not confirm this, but she seemed very honest and sincere.

The night i arrived in Angeles on March 14, we met at the Irish Pub, had a few drinks and she spent the night with me. We had a great time together except that she was unbelievably shy and quiet.



(iii) Mirrors

The "cultural show" where a group of around 8 very pretty girls do a "cultural dance" was very good and entertaining. A couple of those were very barfinable, but I'm not sure if you can take those out. Anyone had any luck with the cultural dancers?

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Blackangst
06-08-08, 03:15
On my recent trip in March, I had a real date with one of those cultural dancers at Mirrors. She told me they could barfine, but they could not leave until after 1am. She actually quit the Clarkton dance show a month before we met in person so I can not confirm this, but she seemed very honest and sincere.

The night i arrived in Angeles on March 14, we met at the Irish Pub, had a few drinks and she spent the night with me. We had a great time together except that she was unbelievably shy and quiet.

She is pinay? She looks middle eastern to me. Especially the nose. But we all know how pics are :p

Escort Fan
06-08-08, 04:47
Fate brought me back to Angeles.

I didn't quite enjoy the first time because I was here for just 48 hours and didn't know where to go. Now to avoid the afternoon boredom I go to the casino and the wild aces at the wild orchid!

Bah some dude last night broke us all; he took easily 20K or 30K home for a buy in of 2K.

To forget this I went to Viper Room, as they were advertising the lingerie night and the australian BBQ. Frankly the lingerie was very cheap, quite pathetic, don't they have La Perla or Agent Provocateur in the Phils?

Someone should open a franchise at SM Mall already!

My time at the Viper Room was oppressing, I was constantly asked to buy ladies drink for the girl I was talking too, and those annoying waitresses also wanted LD for themselves! Wtf why should I buy them drinks every hour!

Also I was pressured to buy some kind of roses necklaces that you give to the girl who are doing the lingerie show.

The first LD I bought to my date, ended up being spilled by the girl, so another was ordered and billed instantly (wtf! I don't care for 140P but sure I'll never go back to viper room, they don't know shit about working for repeat customers).

I bar fined Vanessa, a fine girl. I bar fined her because she talk easily about her job, she was quite honest said she hated Angeles, that it was full of crazy people, and told me to be careful about those shitty waitresses that push you to buy LD. Great attitude so I bar fined her.

In bed she was quite boring & passive, despite being quite reactive it was a boring session.

On a side note, did someone preach about safe sex during the last couple of months? The last time I was here I didn't hear the word 'condom' now I see the aids red ribbon everywhere, and all the girls asked for a condom. I tried to trick one saying "I don't have any" she replied "nevermind" so there is quite more to do regarding safe sex but it seems at least the girls have been informed about STD's and that can only be a good thing! Means they'll be more careful about barebacking guy who have a dick that doesn't look too healthy and do their monthly tests carefully!

Vanessa told me she used to be a super star for a few weeks at the Atlantis (I wonder if it's true) but she said the girls have to repeat their routines everyday and it's very tiring and she couldn't deal with so much pressure!

The night before I bar hooped after waking up at 4AM, I'm afraid at this time there are only left over. So I went to Atlantis and got a girl who was there. Quite friendly.

By the way, is there something wrong with Philippines girls, they hard give BJ, is this not common practice here? I don't want to push for BJ, but I do like a good BJ as an appetizer.

I noticed a new club, the crystal palace which wasn't here two months ago. It belongs to the doll house group. Omg those guys must be loaded, DH + DH hotel + Atlantis + Crystal Palace. A girl told me the owner of the group was some Hawaiian dude who died recently. It wasn't really clear who took over, she said her family or something, but if someone has the full story, I'd be curious to hear, I wonder who's the running the show here, it sure seems not to be the Filipino, as in many clubs you see Australian owner, or German owner etc.

I still have the same problem about finding descent food in Angeles. Especially the breakfast is an issue. I tried the Mc Donalds they don't even serve Mc Morning here. Where can one get a descent breakfast with scrambled eggs, bacon, cereals, etc. (apart from Sub Delicious)

And what are the finest tables of the city? I thought perhaps ABC being the finest hotel is town has maybe excellent food, did anyone test it?

As a European I would like to watch EURO 2008, does anyone which channel shows it if any? I mean wtf I’m staying at pacifying breeze, and they seems to have cable or satellite, and I couldn’t seem to find a channel that showed the match live, instead there was some basket and some baseball games. Boring!

On a final note, I'd like to report the raining season has been quite dry for now!

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Hesekiels
06-08-08, 11:04
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]
... By the way, is there something wrong with Philippines girls, they hard give BJ, is this not common practice here? I don't want to push for BJ, but I do like a good BJ as an appetizer.../QUOTE]



EF:

I am most surprised to read that! According to my experience at various places a bbbj belongs to the "standard program"! I suppose you simply had bad luck!


Cheers - Hesekiels

McJohn
06-08-08, 12:07
And what are the finest tables of the city? I thought perhaps ABC being the finest hotel is town has maybe excellent food, did anyone test it?
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ABC has set lunch which was very good though not cheap when I was there.
Best (but expensive) restaurant in AC by far is C's Italian Dining IMHO. It's on Perimeter.

Blink157
06-08-08, 12:18
escort fan,

try solar sports, they show the cup live. Go to shanos you can watch it there. Its near pacific breeze. If you want to watch it with some guys.

Excellent breakfast buffet avaible in CLarkton hotel until 12 noon.

Good breakfast and good coffee in swiss chalet. Its also near PB.

Hope that helps.


Blink

HornyGeorge
06-08-08, 16:44
no divorce is allowed, only "annulment" (same thing but costs much more and must be negotiated with the church-the real power center here).

c's is nice but the prices are out of whack for a third world country (rome prices). azzuro restaurant, above camelot where santos dead ends at fields, is much more reasonably priced and has excellent italian food.

abc redid their kitchen a few months back and now the chef from azzuro runs the kitchen i believe.

not a breakfast eater so cannot comment on that other than to note nicer hotels include breakfast in their rates.

some scumbag apparently spread an std among the perimeter road bj bars and the girls are pissed about it. beware.

the high front desk at clarkton helps minimize the wall of shame it sounds like (never stayed there).

rain is a good thing. you can buy umbrellas for 50 pisos from street vendors (with bargaining), so the rain should not be that big a deal walking around. keeps the air much cleaner and cooler too. and the girls huddle under the overhangs seeking shelter giving you a captive audience to flirt. offer them a trike ride to a dry hotel room. do be very careful of **** setups if taking freelancers as this has become a cottage industry in balibago in recent years.

in the post eruption years rain was like a blessing from heaven because it gave you a break from the blowing lahar (powder like volcanic dust that got everywhere on your body).

the philippines gets lots of rain, make no mistake about that. and dry" season (now over) is a relative term. this dry season was anything but.

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Rob Woodrow
06-09-08, 05:48
not a breakfast eater so cannot comment on that other than to note nicer hotels include breakfast in their rates...

...do be very careful of **** setups if taking freelancers as this has become a cottage industry in balibago in recent years.
1) abc used to include breakfast in their rates, but the last time i was there they did not. it is possible they do now, but as of mid-january they didn't. pacific breeze didn't last time i was there either. i believe the new lewis grand will include two breakfasts in their room rate. the third one is on you.

2) i would not recommend a new visitor to take a freelancer, at all. there are too many girls in the bars to risk it, and there aren't that many decent fl's anyway. also, do not let a bar girl invite a "friend" over. the friend might be ****.

X Man
06-09-08, 11:59
this is probably the wrong place to put weather inquiry, but since hg has hit upon the topic.....here goes.

i'm looking for a good web site that provides information about different areas of the philippines. here is one example, but unfortunately only has z city and mnl.
http://www.worldtravelguide.net/country/225/climate/south-east-asia/philippines.html

in the past i've left rainy cebu and found great weather in davao. nevertheless, i hear that davao is flooded at the moment.

x


no divorce is allowed, only "annulment" (same thing but costs much more and must be negotiated with the church-the real power center here).

c's is nice but the prices are out of whack for a third world country (rome prices). azzuro restaurant, above camelot where santos dead ends at fields, is much more reasonably priced and has excellent italian food.

abc redid their kitchen a few months back and now the chef from azzuro runs the kitchen i believe.

not a breakfast eater so cannot comment on that other than to note nicer hotels include breakfast in their rates.

some scumbag apparently spread an std among the perimeter road bj bars and the girls are pissed about it. beware.

the high front desk at clarkton helps minimize the wall of shame it sounds like (never stayed there).

rain is a good thing. you can buy umbrellas for 50 pisos from street vendors (with bargaining), so the rain should not be that big a deal walking around. keeps the air much cleaner and cooler too. and the girls huddle under the overhangs seeking shelter giving you a captive audience to flirt. offer them a trike ride to a dry hotel room. do be very careful of **** setups if taking freelancers as this has become a cottage industry in balibago in recent years.

in the post eruption years rain was like a blessing from heaven because it gave you a break from the blowing lahar (powder like volcanic dust that got everywhere on your body).

the philippines gets lots of rain, make no mistake about that. and dry" season (now over) is a relative term. this dry season was anything but.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

FireWalker
06-09-08, 12:27
ABC has set lunch which was very good though not cheap when I was there.
Best (but expensive) restaurant in AC by far is C's Italian Dining IMHO. It's on Perimeter.

A lot of girls feel awkward about it and need coaxing. Ask if they do in "interview",

FireWalker
06-09-08, 12:33
Fate brought me back to Angeles.

I didn't quite enjoy the first time because I was here for just 48 hours and didn't know where to go. Now to avoid the afternoon boredom I go to the casino and the wild aces at the wild orchid!

Bah some dude last night broke us all; he took easily 20K or 30K home for a buy in of 2K.

To forget this I went to Viper Room, as they were advertising the lingerie night and the australian BBQ. Frankly the lingerie was very cheap, quite pathetic, don't they have La Perla or Agent Provocateur in the Phils?

Someone should open a franchise at SM Mall already!

My time at the Viper Room was oppressing, I was constantly asked to buy ladies drink for the girl I was talking too, and those annoying waitresses also wanted LD for themselves! Wtf why should I buy them drinks every hour!

Also I was pressured to buy some kind of roses necklaces that you give to the girl who are doing the lingerie show.

The first LD I bought to my date, ended up being spilled by the girl, so another was ordered and billed instantly (wtf! I don't care for 140P but sure I'll never go back to viper room, they don't know shit about working for repeat customers).

I bar fined Vanessa, a fine girl. I bar fined her because she talk easily about her job, she was quite honest said she hated Angeles, that it was full of crazy people, and told me to be careful about those shitty waitresses that push you to buy LD. Great attitude so I bar fined her.

In bed she was quite boring & passive, despite being quite reactive it was a boring session.

On a side note, did someone preach about safe sex during the last couple of months? The last time I was here I didn't hear the word 'condom' now I see the aids red ribbon everywhere, and all the girls asked for a condom. I tried to trick one saying "I don't have any" she replied "nevermind" so there is quite more to do regarding safe sex but it seems at least the girls have been informed about STD's and that can only be a good thing! Means they'll be more careful about barebacking guy who have a dick that doesn't look too healthy and do their monthly tests carefully!

Vanessa told me she used to be a super star for a few weeks at the Atlantis (I wonder if it's true) but she said the girls have to repeat their routines everyday and it's very tiring and she couldn't deal with so much pressure!

The night before I bar hooped after waking up at 4AM, I'm afraid at this time there are only left over. So I went to Atlantis and got a girl who was there. Quite friendly.

By the way, is there something wrong with Philippines girls, they hard give BJ, is this not common practice here? I don't want to push for BJ, but I do like a good BJ as an appetizer.

I noticed a new club, the crystal palace which wasn't here two months ago. It belongs to the doll house group. Omg those guys must be loaded, DH + DH hotel + Atlantis + Crystal Palace. A girl told me the owner of the group was some Hawaiian dude who died recently. It wasn't really clear who took over, she said her family or something, but if someone has the full story, I'd be curious to hear, I wonder who's the running the show here, it sure seems not to be the Filipino, as in many clubs you see Australian owner, or German owner etc.

I still have the same problem about finding descent food in Angeles. Especially the breakfast is an issue. I tried the Mc Donalds they don't even serve Mc Morning here. Where can one get a descent breakfast with scrambled eggs, bacon, cereals, etc. (apart from Sub Delicious)

And what are the finest tables of the city? I thought perhaps ABC being the finest hotel is town has maybe excellent food, did anyone test it?

As a European I would like to watch EURO 2008, does anyone which channel shows it if any? I mean wtf I’m staying at pacifying breeze, and they seems to have cable or satellite, and I couldn’t seem to find a channel that showed the match live, instead there was some basket and some baseball games. Boring!

On a final note, I'd like to report the raining season has been quite dry for now!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.


Fields area bars don't care about repeat business, they only care about NOW BUSINESS. If you want bars that care about repeat business go to Perimeter bars.

Sunset Gardens has pretty good food, you need to venture off the well worn path.

FireWalker
06-09-08, 12:50
Don't get so enamored with any new bars that open. Generally, they are stocked with "old fish" from other ponds. Yea, it is fun to stop in and check out the new bars as they open, but they are not the wisest place to find your "picks". They rely on your naivete to make quick dollars.

You are buying the expensive lights and hot sound systems for these guys. Also, the extra makeup that the girls wear. It is all about getting your money as fast as possible, for as little effort as possible. Think about it, wouldn't you?

Amavida
06-09-08, 22:53
Don't get so enamored with any new bars that open. Generally, they are stocked with "old fish" from other ponds. Yea, it is fun to stop in and check out the new bars as they open, but they are not the wisest place to find your "picks". They rely on your naivete to make quick dollars.

You are buying the expensive lights and hot sound systems for these guys. Also, the extra makeup that the girls wear. It is all about getting your money as fast as possible, for as little effort as possible. Think about it, wouldn't you?Its true that the girls are dragged in from surrounding bars but the nice thing is they are all excited & motivated about being in a flashy new bar with new costumes on & the prestige of being seen working there.

Taking a girl to a newly opened bar for an outing works well for me, they really appreciate seeing something new for a change. Getting them happy & excited leads to better sex in my personal experience. ;)

I would really hate to see the bars stagnate. Opening new bars is part of the life cycle of bars. Old bars become decrepit & close, new ones open.
AV

Blink157
06-10-08, 04:48
Hi,
yesterday I witnessed about an US guy, propbl Marine, was handcuffed and taken into custody from those yellow dressed Brgy cops, which I saw the first time in fields. This happens infront of Atlantis around 9pm when I was on my national day evening barhop.

However I didnt arrived when it started. All I can say the young guy was involved in some trouble with locals.He pointed to them that they start the fight. He was a quite tall guy, 6 foot something and trained. He was forced to stand on their car and súrrouned by those yellow brgy cops holding sticks in their hand. Papasan of atlantis made some pictures and told me its harrasam. Cops looked quite angry and tackled the guy allways, pushed him against the car and provocate him. At this time he shout he is american and he need help and he dont want trouble. Another guy next to me had allready another opinion on this, he told me the Guy (us) was an asshole and was taken down now, he would do it himself but he was to big for him..

This all came to an end when they guys tackled and provocted him again, he wanted to free himself punshed some guys but then was handcuffed from "10 guys" taken into the car and brought somewhere...Cops arrived later , questioned somebody for a minute and hurried up to chase the car. I wasnt quite sure what was all about this. Cops were cheered by the crowd..The brgy cops were very agressive and Im sure if I would interfere I would be taken also just for showing up and question all this...

Of course there are many ass...les in AC and I met a new assh..le evry day, question is , you dont have to shoot them....happend recently with a barowner, neither if they admit their mistakes you dont need to harrass them, punsh them or do other things.

The inicident left a bitter taste on me. I was thinking if I run into trouble, nobody would help me also, cause Im just a fuc..n foreigner with no rights, just to spend money here and even that would put me in trouble.

Thats one reason I dont live in AC and after this I realized in what world we living. Philippines is a fu..ckn police state...

Not sure wht happen to the guy...mabe we can read it later somewhere...


Blink

Buko Max
06-11-08, 04:34
Had the pleasure of staying at this property last month and it was very enjoyable indeed! Hard to miss this hotel located on Don Juico Ave., perfect for visiting the Perimeter Road bars.

Although not 100% complete, I got the full tour by Sir Lewis, a great host by the way. He is putting the finishing touches on what will soon be the place to stay in AC.

Spent three days in a deluxe king room that featured LCD flat screen TV, king size bed, waterfall shower and massive wood storage cabinets with in room safe.
Every room comes complementary with breakfast of your choice for two but since the dinning room was not quite finished, we were served breakfast in bed!

Overall service was top notch, like something you would expect from a five star hotel. The hotel should be in full swing by the end of the month.

www.lewisgrand.com

Romello
06-11-08, 05:00
thanks for this post.

I pasted it last month when I was in Angeles during May.

I will have to check it out.


Had the pleasure of staying at this property last month and it was very enjoyable indeed! Hard to miss this hotel located on Don Juico Ave., perfect for visiting the Perimeter Road bars.

Although not 100% complete, I got the full tour by Sir Lewis, a great host by the way. He is putting the finishing touches on what will soon be the place to stay in AC.

Spent three days in a deluxe king room that featured LCD flat screen TV, king size bed, waterfall shower and massive wood storage cabinets with in room safe.
Every room comes complementary with breakfast of your choice for two but since the dinning room was not quite finished, we were served breakfast in bed!

Overall service was top notch, like something you would expect from a five star hotel. The hotel should be in full swing by the end of the month.

www.lewisgrand.com

Bob Down
06-11-08, 10:41
This is probably the wrong place to put weather inquiry, but since HG has hit upon the topic.....here goes.

I'm looking for a good web site that provides information about different areas of the Philippines. Here is one example, but unfortunately only has Z City and MNL.
http://www.worldtravelguide.net/country/225/climate/South-East-Asia/Philippines.html

In the past I've left rainy Cebu and found great weather in Davao. Nevertheless, I hear that Davao is flooded at the moment.

X

X is this what you are looking for.

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Philippines&MR=1

X Man
06-11-08, 14:19
Wow, great site for weather forecasts in Philippines. Thanks

Actually, I was thinking more about overall trends in weather. In my limited experiences, I find I get rained on less often in Davao, Mindanao than Manila or Cebu or Bohol.

X



X is this what you are looking for.

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Philippines&MR=1

Bees11
06-11-08, 16:41
Now you've done it, letting the bargirl out of the bag!

Actually no. He is talking about the Aussie Ray Kelly who is a bar owner in AC and Subic. He was shot in the face in front of a store a while back. Two guys are in custody and revenge seems to be the motive.I know Ray Kelly from my many trips to AC. How is he, was he badly wounded, do you know? Do you know when the shooting actually happened?

Thanks in advance.

Hunny Buns
06-11-08, 18:04
What was the net charge on this?

Thanks!


Had the pleasure of staying at this property last month and it was very enjoyable indeed! Hard to miss this hotel located on Don Juico Ave., perfect for visiting the Perimeter Road bars.

Although not 100% complete, I got the full tour by Sir Lewis, a great host by the way. He is putting the finishing touches on what will soon be the place to stay in AC.

Spent three days in a deluxe king room that featured LCD flat screen TV, king size bed, waterfall shower and massive wood storage cabinets with in room safe.
Every room comes complementary with breakfast of your choice for two but since the dinning room was not quite finished, we were served breakfast in bed!

Overall service was top notch, like something you would expect from a five star hotel. The hotel should be in full swing by the end of the month.

www.lewisgrand.com

Aussiec
06-12-08, 06:04
Whats the cost for Lewis Grand?

Ekspat
06-12-08, 06:41
Wow, great site for weather forecasts in Philippines. Thanks
Yeah, the site is good. Usually 1 day before my flight to Clarke I have a look there whether there are typhoons around. I don't like bumpy flights and if, I wanna know why.

29 days to go! :D

Cheers!

Bob Down
06-12-08, 12:46
Wow, great site for weather forecasts in Philippines. Thanks

Actually, I was thinking more about overall trends in weather. In my limited experiences, I find I get rained on less often in Davao, Mindanao than Manila or Cebu or Bohol.

X

Not sure if this helps but the site has a history link, so for example you can look at the weather that Davao had in the month of june 2007. It might give you an idea about how many rainy days to expect.

Buko Max
06-12-08, 23:13
What was the net charge on this?
That room is a 'Deluxe King' and is the cheapest they offer at 2600p net.

To Bees11 :

Not sure on the exact date but it was sometime in the second week of May.
The bullet went through his head without doing much damage but he still needed an operation.
Looks like he will make a complete recovery.
He was lucky.

Blink157
06-13-08, 04:14
That room is a 'Deluxe King' and is the cheapest they offer at 2600p net.

To Bees11 :

Not sure on the exact date but it was sometime in the second week of May.
The bullet went through his head without doing much damage but he still needed an operation.
Looks like he will make a complete recovery.
He was lucky.

LOL...went tru his head without doing much damage :D..I know the topic is serious but that s kinda funny how you explain/report/describe it...

on the serious side. I heard the bullet went from his left cheek to his right cheeks and didnt hit any teeth or any other lifethreatening parts of his head including his brain....So he was dam lucky I guess..

Happy day..

Blink

John Dough
06-13-08, 04:41
Actually, I was thinking more about overall trends in weather. In my limited experiences, I find I get rained on less often in Davao, Mindanao than Manila or Cebu or Bohol.
http://www.weatherbase.com

Ekspat
06-13-08, 07:33
That room is a 'Deluxe King' and is the cheapest they offer at 2600p net.
Seems reasonable. And good location.
Cheers!

Aussiec
06-13-08, 19:04
I heard that Champayne Bar got closed do to not having proper license for one of the girls. Anyone know about this? Of course I am interested for this is one of my favorite hangouts.

Psdai
06-14-08, 13:30
I heard that Champayne Bar got closed do to not having proper license for one of the girls. Anyone know about this? Of course I am interested for this is one of my favorite hangouts.I just returned home from having spent the last 7 days in AC and was in champagne everyday but one and they were open that day also so unless it happened today ( or after I passed by yesterday) I think it's a rumor. could be wrong though.

Konaman
06-14-08, 17:02
well, i too have just returned from 5 nights at angeles. and i am still recovering...!

some of us newbies have been slagged off by the vets here for taking all the info available here and not returning anything, so, i shall pen a small report on my take of angeles city.

first off let me state a little background info. i'm an asian of indian origin from singapore who travelled with two others of similar origin. myself and friend1 have been to angeles city back in 1984 when we were in our early 20s. i'm now 48, friend1 is 50 and friend2 ( a real newbie to the philippines) is 55.

before our trip one of our concern was how we would be received by the bars and the girls. our early years mongering was always in thailand as it is much nearer to singapore. and i had seen thailand change so much over the years in this respect. i stopped mongering in thailand altogether in 1992 when i was denied entry to every single groundfloor bar in patpong only because of the colour of my skin. thailand has become a white man's near exclusive play area. i did make subsequent trips to phuket, pattaya and bangkok and, while the racism is not as obvious, its still there. i did not even bother with the bars in pattaya, places which had given me some great pleasures in early years...

coming back to topic, we stayed all 5 nights at pacific breeze. a great hotel in a great location. and the front desk constantly manned by a bevy of beauties. pity they were not available, at least not to us!

now much has been said about "blowrow" and i was really interested in checking out these unique establishments. but it was a total let-down. as far as i could see there were only 3 bars still around - black pearl, honktonk and gobbles. in fact it is a misnomer to even describe the black pearl and gobbles as "bars". all 3 are basically dumps with the ambience of a junkyard. and there are no girls there, only matrons in whom you would be a very brave man to stick your precious tool in. still, on our first day we tried to actually sit and have a beer at black pearl and gobbles. the "ladies" at black pearl entirely ignored us, imagine what that did to our confidence.. but surprisingly friend1, who had retired from such activities for the past 20 years, took a fancy to one fat lady who was hitting on him at gobbles and took her back to his room. this left friend2 and me totally stunned!

now let me speed up things a bit...

1st night. we walked around fields a bit. the door girls at the bars didn't seem too eager to welcome us. we tried a couple of bars. after the initial orders we were left alone. and one of the bars had the worst collection of girls i had ever seen. oh dear...

then we entered owl's nest. one pretty petite girl led me in. while the girls dancing were not many and not all that great, friend2 was attracted to one of the bartenders. and i was smitten with the petite one who clung on to me. we both paid the barfine of p1300 and took our beauties home.

and it was a wonderful night with a good gfe. she was a little shy and refused to shower with me. but the sex was okay and she clung to me throughout the night. she left early the next morning after another round. i gave her a p300 tip.

i think i best post this before i lose the report... to be continued.

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Konaman
06-15-08, 17:58
2nd Night. Well, start with the day. Friend2 went early morning with his girl to meet up with her sister. They had breakfast at the Swiss Chalet. No, nothing happened thereafter as his girl left. Friend1 and I met up at Mo Cafe after our girls left. We ordered breakfast there. And this place holds the distinction of serving me the worst western breafast in my whole life. Same for my friend too. I mean, how bad can mash be? Try it at Mo's

We spent the afternoon at SM Mall. God, it's huge. A pretty needed distraction to while away the day. before the bars open in late afternoon. I know, I know, there are some 24 hrs bars, but we didn't try any.

Given our age we were not too eager to have another night of action. So we decided to take it easy. But the events of last night convinced us that we too could have some real fun here.

So we just did some good ol bar hopping. Can't remember all the bars, but we did try out Cambodia and Doll House. Our personal views: Both are lousy! We didn't find any girl who could even remotely stir us from our self-imposed celibacy. Really, you should spend your money elsewhere! But Brown Sugar is good...

3rd Night. We spent the entire day finding our way to Subic Bay and back. It's been said before and I'll say again: it aint worth the trip

Nightfall, we again hit the strip and tried out a few bars. D Club has some real pretty girls who are also pretty friendly. The mama there works pretty hard to get you to hook up with the girls at least for a drink. I picked a real cute one to sit with me. Same for my friends. But Friend2 didn't feel the right chemistry with his truly cute one and decided to head for Brown Sugar. Both me and Friend1 stayed a little longer with our own cuties. Both of them were interested in coming with us, but they also made it clear they don't do blowjobs. Somehow that sort of dampened our interest. We left the place a while later.

We then met up with Friend2 at Brown Sugar. The mama here is a very hardworking lady. By now both my friends were really in the swing of things. I mean they were no longer the same guys who had started the trip with me. Friend2 became even pal-y with the mama and started buying her and some others lady drinks. Then both Friend1 and 2 for some reason decided to pick a couple of real plump chicks. The majority of the bar girls are very slim with many positivly under-nourished. Yet this 2 jokers ended uip picking a couple of real heavyweights. Well, to each is own I suppose.

Me? I too was much emboldened after 2 nights. When the mama kept bringing girls to me to select I had no problems rejecting. Of course she was trying to push me only distinctly average ones! She then brought me another cute demure thing. I was smitten. But, I immediatlely enquired through the mama whether she would do bj. And right before me the mama posed this question to her and she said okay. So I said okay to her and paid the barfine of P1350. By then my friends and arranged with their girls to go swimming at the hotel pool. When my girl heard this she too went to get her swimming costume.

So, we immediately made it back to our rooms and changed into our swimming gear. By the time me and my girl came down to the pool Friend1 was already down with his girl. And he had persuaded her to remove her bikini top. Friend2 then came with his girl and we had a great time in the pool at midnight. Unbelievable fun! I'm glad I took up the advice of some forummers and booked a hotel with a pool.

We then broke up and went to our respective rooms. My night session with my girl was good. And yes, she did give me a decent bj, both at night and the next morning. Again it was a nice gfe experince with her clinging to me the whole night. I had also to tell her to leave the next morning about 10 as I had other plans. I gave her a P500 tip. She was worth it.

to be continued...

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X Man
06-16-08, 12:26
Thanks for the interesting posts Konaman.

How did you get to Subic, and why did you dislike it?

Pool? So, what hotel were you at? Was there no closing time for the pool?

You gotta love those 24 hour pools!

X

Blink157
06-17-08, 05:24
Hi,
nice report Konaman..not sure about Thailand, but in ac some bars prefer koreans LOL...but I dont care about that also, since its low season now and bars are empty..

The good thing in AC is, never give up, there are many places to explore and things can change evry day..One day, one bar sucks, you go there the next day and you find many gurls of your li(c)king :D

My previous experience from last weekend...I went to Viper club or bar, not sure if thats the name, it belongs to Bourbon street which is just beside..

I know the guy who is papa san there now from other joints , so I went in for a beer or 2..

Spot allready a cute sexy doorgurl, pretty face and pretty slim body..when enterd the joint a sexy dancer gurl caught my attention, Slim, 5"6 and cute ass :D..infact a very good ass...

I ordered drinks for her and she told me straight she lost her cherry 3 weeks ago from a guy she doesnt liked much...I wonder why all the gurls get f..d by guys they dont like, lose their cherry by guys they dont like...Nice bullshit ehehehe....she offered me short time but I told her I wanted all night and she accept...Now we txting and Im consider her to take her to subic next weekend. She has the smoothest skin I ever experienced..not much tits but in the ass department which I personally like very much, she is a straight 10...

The last time I went to Viper was 5 years ago..so things can change and evry day there is a new day ..


Blink out

Cowboy Mike
06-17-08, 06:31
I wonder why all the gurls get f..d by guys they dont like, lose their cherry by guys they dont like...Money Talks. She obviously found an acceptable price for something she could part with.

Warbucks
06-17-08, 09:53
well, i too have just returned from 5 nights at angeles. and i am still recovering...!

some of us newbies have been slagged off by the vets here for taking all the info available here and not returning anything, so, i shall pen a small report on my take of angeles city.

first off let me state a little background info. i'm an asian of indian origin from singapore who travelled with two others of similar origin. myself and friend1 have been to angeles city back in 1984 when we were in our early 20s. i'm now 48, friend1 is 50 and friend2 ( a real newbie to the philippines) is 55.

before our trip one of our concern was how we would be received by the bars and the girls. our early years mongering was always in thailand as it is much nearer to singapore. and i had seen thailand change so much over the years in this respect. i stopped mongering in thailand altogether in 1992 when i was denied entry to every single groundfloor bar in patpong only because of the colour of my skin. thailand has become a white man's near exclusive play area. i did make subsequent trips to phuket, pattaya and bangkok and, while the racism is not as obvious, its still there. i did not even bother with the bars in pattaya, places which had given me some great pleasures in early years...

coming back to topic, we stayed all 5 nights at pacific breeze. a great hotel in a great location. and the front desk constantly manned by a bevy of beauties. pity they were not available, at least not to us!

now much has been said about "blowrow" and i was really interested in checking out these unique establishments. but it was a total let-down. as far as i could see there were only 3 bars still around - black pearl, honktonk and gobbles. in fact it is a misnomer to even describe the black pearl and gobbles as "bars". all 3 are basically dumps with the ambience of a junkyard. and there are no girls there, only matrons in whom you would be a very brave man to stick your precious tool in. still, on our first day we tried to actually sit and have a beer at black pearl and gobbles. the "ladies" at black pearl entirely ignored us, imagine what that did to our confidence.. but surprisingly friend1, who had retired from such activities for the past 20 years, took a fancy to one fat lady who was hitting on him at gobbles and took her back to his room. this left friend2 and me totally stunned!

now let me speed up things a bit...

1st night. we walked around fields a bit. the door girls at the bars didn't seem too eager to welcome us. we tried a couple of bars. after the initial orders we were left alone. and one of the bars had the worst collection of girls i had ever seen. oh dear...

i am sorry but i find it hard to believe you where turned away in thailand. thai girls and thai people in general have got to be the most money hungry pieces of work i have seen. second filipinas for the most part are shy if they don't show interest that doesn't necessarily mean she is not interested. i am late 20s black guy and when i was in angeles i was beckoned to come in all clubs i passed. some times dragged down the street. in los its even worse. my problem was i kept comparing the two places los and pi and thats what led to me not enjoying ac that much. that being said angeles is still a great place.

Acfreddie
06-17-08, 10:53
i heard that champayne bar got closed do to not having proper license for one of the girls. anyone know about this? of course i am interested for this is one of my favorite hangouts.there have been a series of "inspections" done by the barangay in ac in the past two weeks or so (this only applies to fields ave as perimeter is located in a different barangay even though it is only a short distance from fields).

the reason behind these "inspections" are they are trying to extort money from the bars by telling the bars that in order for the girls to work in the bars they must have a barangay clearance certificate (which costs p50, not a lot of money to a foreigner, but to the girls it is). at first many of the bars said no to paying for this, but once the "inspections" started the bars changed their minds rather quickly and either the bar or the girls paid the extortion fee to get the clearance certificate from the barangay. (i call/term it extortion because my reading and interpretation of the law with regards to this issue is that it is illegal for the barangay to "require" this and as supporting evidence of its legality, acta (angeles city tourist authority) is also having their legal council look into this matter.

what generally has happened to cause a closure is that they barangay and his cronies go to a bar and ask the bar to produce the "proper" paperwork for all of their girls (meaning they want to see the barangay clearance certificates) if they fail to produce the certificates (which most bars did not originally have) they threatened to close down the bar. the threats were null and void as anytime any type of "authority" figure visits a bar, the girls of the bar rep001ter and leave and in most cases do not return that night (the reasoning of this is [i'm quoting/summarizing from a girl who works in an ac bar and has previously experienced a "raid" or "inspection"] is that they are scared of what will happen as the girls who have had the traumatic experience before have informed to the others what they have experienced and the other girls who have been lucky enough to never have experienced it are determined to not experience it, thus they rep001ter when "authorities" visit. so the bottom line is that it is really not the barangay closing the bar, but rather the bar choosing to close themselves for the night as they usually have no girls (or in a rare instance, very very few girls) that are still there to work for the rest of the night.

there are other "authorities" that are currently present in ac that some feel are alarm for concern i will post about this in a separate/new thread.

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Acfreddie
06-17-08, 11:15
The new AC is alive and well, at least for the corrupt "authorities". One of these groups, known as the "jojo" group. They have been for weeks now after the bars with some ridiculous demands. They are currently demanding that the bars (and all foreign owned businesses) pay P3 MILLION per month and no receipts will be given. The "jojo" group states that failure to pay the P3 MILLION will result in bars being raided and shutdown.

Prior to this DEMAND, the "jojo" group wanted the following:

1. All establishments to pay 10% on all EWR's.
2. All establishments to pay 10% of all Ladies Drinks.
3. All establishments to pay P5 on all Customer drinks.
4. All establishments to pay P5,000 in addition per month.

Of course the bars told them where to stick this DEMAND

This is the same group that hiked the hygiene fee and still no receipts have been issued with the higher price on them, still the old number/figure is given (if it is given at all).

On many other websites, this information can be verified, so I stand behind this post.

Does this mean there is cause for concern? That is not for me to determine, it is (imo) and should be a determination that each individual should make for themselves. I will say that the next few weeks should tell a lot about what will happen or the direction that AC is headed towards.

Vibrations
06-17-08, 15:14
Hi,

Was this fella wearing a RED jersey?

On independence day right?


Hi,

yesterday I witnessed about an US guy, propbl Marine, was handcuffed and taken into custody from those yellow dressed Brgy cops, which I saw the first time in fields. This happens infront of Atlantis around 9pm when I was on my national day evening barhop.

However I didnt arrived when it started. All I can say the young guy was involved in some trouble with locals.He pointed to them that they start the fight. He was a quite tall guy, 6 foot something and trained. He was forced to stand on their car and súrrouned by those yellow brgy cops holding sticks in their hand. Papasan of atlantis made some pictures and told me its harrasam. Cops looked quite angry and tackled the guy allways, pushed him against the car and provocate him. At this time he shout he is american and he need help and he dont want trouble. Another guy next to me had allready another opinion on this, he told me the Guy (us) was an asshole and was taken down now, he would do it himself but he was to big for him..

This all came to an end when they guys tackled and provocted him again, he wanted to free himself punshed some guys but then was handcuffed from "10 guys" taken into the car and brought somewhere...Cops arrived later , questioned somebody for a minute and hurried up to chase the car. I wasnt quite sure what was all about this. Cops were cheered by the crowd..The brgy cops were very agressive and Im sure if I would interfere I would be taken also just for showing up and question all this...

Of course there are many ass...les in AC and I met a new assh..le evry day, question is , you dont have to shoot them....happend recently with a barowner, neither if they admit their mistakes you dont need to harrass them, punsh them or do other things.

The inicident left a bitter taste on me. I was thinking if I run into trouble, nobody would help me also, cause Im just a fuc..n foreigner with no rights, just to spend money here and even that would put me in trouble.

Thats one reason I dont live in AC and after this I realized in what world we living. Philippines is a fu..ckn police state...

Not sure wht happen to the guy...mabe we can read it later somewhere...

Think

Vibrations
06-17-08, 15:20
Was the guy wearing a red jersey?


Hi,

yesterday I witnessed about an US guy, propbl Marine, was handcuffed and taken into custody from those yellow dressed Brgy cops, which I saw the first time in fields. This happens infront of Atlantis around 9pm when I was on my national day evening barhop.

However I didnt arrived when it started. All I can say the young guy was involved in some trouble with locals.He pointed to them that they start the fight. He was a quite tall guy, 6 foot something and trained. He was forced to stand on their car and súrrouned by those yellow brgy cops holding sticks in their hand. Papasan of atlantis made some pictures and told me its harrasam. Cops looked quite angry and tackled the guy allways, pushed him against the car and provocate him. At this time he shout he is american and he need help and he dont want trouble. Another guy next to me had allready another opinion on this, he told me the Guy (us) was an asshole and was taken down now, he would do it himself but he was to big for him..

This all came to an end when they guys tackled and provocted him again, he wanted to free himself punshed some guys but then was handcuffed from "10 guys" taken into the car and brought somewhere...Cops arrived later , questioned somebody for a minute and hurried up to chase the car. I wasnt quite sure what was all about this. Cops were cheered by the crowd..The brgy cops were very agressive and Im sure if I would interfere I would be taken also just for showing up and question all this...

Of course there are many ass...les in AC and I met a new assh..le evry day, question is , you dont have to shoot them....happend recently with a barowner, neither if they admit their mistakes you dont need to harrass them, punsh them or do other things.

The inicident left a bitter taste on me. I was thinking if I run into trouble, nobody would help me also, cause Im just a fuc..n foreigner with no rights, just to spend money here and even that would put me in trouble.

Thats one reason I dont live in AC and after this I realized in what world we living. Philippines is a fu..ckn police state...

Not sure wht happen to the guy...mabe we can read it later somewhere...

Blink

Konaman
06-17-08, 16:17
Let me just continue with my report before I lose it. Given my age hope you understand.

4th Night. Well today was again a day of rest. Joined my friends about 11-ish after sending my girl back. Friend2 was returning early to Singapore to catch a flight to Perth. That left just the 2 of us.

After lunch and some rest we headed towards Perimeter to check out the action there. Walked up to ABC Hotel and checked out the hotel. Nice. Didn't see much beyond so decided to backtrack. Stopped for a haircut (S$2. 40 ha! )before stopping at this small bar at about 5. Edelweiss. Only about 6 dancers, some ok, some really not ok. By now we had developed a modus of walking in to a bar, making a quick check of the goods and beating a hasty retreat if the scene was not promising. We would have done the same here. But what made us stay was the sudden switch to Indian music. This was the absolute first time and we decided to have a drink and enjoy the music. Of course we the only 2 guys at the bar.

As we sat drinking our beer talking to the mama, I spotted this cute little number with a black dot on her forehead. I don't know how many of you guys have heard of Aishwarya Rai, the former Miss World and present Indian Bollywood actress. She has also acted in a few English movies. Well there was this girl in this small bar along Perimeter Rd who bore a striking resemblance to her! The sooner I pointed this out to my friend, he bought her a drink and got her beside him, the bugger.

Just then the mama brought another girl, not in bikini but in jeans and t-shirt to me. She said that this girl was the other girl's sister. At first I thought yeah, right. But then I looked closer and I could see the resemblance as well.

Would you believe it, 2 sisters who looked like a former Miss World and we had them for company. With our kind of music to boot! Unbelievable.

My friend wanted to barfine his girl (younger sister) but she claimed that she was having menses. The poor guy, without the benefit of the info on this forum actually believed her. For me, I was just contented to enjoy the scene.

And it was a pretty good scene. Younger sister was really wild one. She made all the noise, was pretty showy. At one stage she took off her top, poured her drink on her tit and made my friend lick it off. Seeing me watch, she treated me to a drink on her other tit. Wild! Not to be outdone, elder sister then went on the bartop and started dancing in her jeans. For added titilation she too lifted up her top to give us a good look. And boy could she move. We stayed there about 2 hours and only left when more people started coming in. The rest of the night was pretty uneventful compared to Edelweiss.

Well, now to answser some questions. I stayed at the Pacific Breeze. Great hotel, great pool. And yes, its open through the night, I believe. We swam after midnight. My friend swam after 2am on the last night.

Subic. We only went to the bay where the beach is poor. Very little attraction. Had lunch at an expensive seafood restaurant where the food was average and the service the worst I've experienced in the Philippines. But there was a frisbee competion on and the girls in the bikinis looked good. If you could avoid looking at the unfriendly looking hunks that is.

We went to Subic by a long route. Jeepney to local bus station, waited in vain for 1. 5 hrs for the local express, gave up, took another jeepney to San Fernando, caught a private van to Olangopo, then jeepney to Subic. Unbelievably hot weather. Negotiated and got a private to bring us back to AC. Won't do it again, if ever.

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Nvslim
06-17-08, 21:31
The June newsletter is now available at

http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/jun08/.

Updates on Ray Kelly shooting, extortions mentioned in earlier posts, reports and photos of bars (nice pics of scantily dressed girls), and the Doll House raid.

Slim

Devoman
06-18-08, 00:30
Hi guys,

I am planning a trip to Angeles City and need some advice. I was thinking of flying from Hong Kong directly to Clark using Cebu Air. I have been told that this could be a bad idea as Cebu Air is notoriously late and unreliable.

I don't want to miss my connection in Hong Kong so this concerns me. Does anyone have any info on Cebu Air, or travel from AC to HK? I greatly appreciate any advice provided.

Devo

Blink157
06-18-08, 03:26
Was the guy wearing a red jersey?
Hi,
no he didnt. if you refer to the us guy, he was a 6 footer, wearing a black t shirt..normal haircut and if my GF was here, she would say he very hunsum :D

So, a young guy, propbly now with less cash in his pocket cause Im sure he had tobuy his way out of trouble....

regards

Blink

PS yes on the PI independence day/Monday

Blink157
06-18-08, 04:37
Hi,
nice report Acfreddy, but corruption is normal in the Phils and thats Pi style how to get money out of the foreigners...and to think about how to get money out of them..
Seems to be that the golden years are over and bars have to pay the price now...on my last visit this weekend I found fields quite empty...but that doesnt prevent me from barfine a nice gurl there and we will go to subic next weekend...
Of course Im also mad if those assxxles and whatever their name is behave like this..Maybe they want to milk the cow until no more milk is left.

I suggest move the bars to Olangapo LOL, or maybe La union..so koreans can buy expensive drinks for the gurls and can still sing in their karaoke joints in friendship and pay the cops over there :D and the rest of the 3000 gurls can entertain us where "authorities" maybe not too greedy for the start and welcome the new dollar /euro flow and bars can make up and earn again..

Of course the new built hi way to AC would be useless, cause nobody wants to go there LOL and when arriving at the PI NAia I seldem spot any "families or couples" arriving there...So , lets face it guys....Philippines missed the big grow after the 1980...Ermita was shot down by this chinese Idiot Lim who caused billions of dollars which now flow into Thailand and other asian locations.......Enough aint enough...if you give money to them its never enough...I ask my ex pampangan GF once..she says , yes , its not enough its never enough cause you foreigners have many money and thats why its never enough, we want allways more..


Anyway, I will enjoy AC until its last and because I live here I have enough pussy to get into my bedroom....I dont need AC, dont need bars, dont need gurls....BUT THEY NEED ME!!


Happy day to all

Blink

Ekspat
06-18-08, 07:39
I will enjoy AC until its last and because I live here I have enough pussy to get into my bedroom....I dont need AC, dont need bars, dont need gurls....BUT THEY NEED ME!!
Well said, I also enjoy AC every time, but if the greedy guys ruin it,
I don't care, enough other places in SEA available and waiting for money.

Cheers!

BigSmile
06-18-08, 08:31
Hi guys,

I am planning a trip to Angeles City and need some advice. I was thinking of flying from Hong Kong directly to Clark using Cebu Air. I have been told that this could be a bad idea as Cebu Air is notoriously late and unreliable.

I don't want to miss my connection in Hong Kong so this concerns me. Does anyone have any info on Cebu Air, or travel from AC to HK? I greatly appreciate any advice provided.

DevoYou could try using Tiger Airways who fly from Macau to Clark. It is a lot easier than it first sounds and is my preffered route. From Hong Kong you can remain airside without going through immigration and catch the special bus down to the ferry terminal. 5 mins. Then the ferry goes to Macau. 45mins. Taxi from Macau ferry port to Macau airport. 5 mins. Piece of cake.

I guess it depends a bit on timing as Tiger, I think only have one or two flights a day. If the timings right I think it's by far the easiest and cheapest way to get from Hong Kong to Clark.

Acfreddie
06-18-08, 11:45
Hi,

Nice report Acfreddy, but corruption is normal in the Phils and thats Pi style how to get money out of the foreigners. And to think about how to get money out of them. Seems to be that the golden years are over and bars have to pay the price now. On my last visit this weekend I found fields quite empty. But that doesnt prevent me from barfine a nice gurl there and we will go to subic next weekend. Of course I'm also mad if those assxxles and whatever their name is behave like this. Maybe they want to milk the cow until no more milk is left.

I suggest move the bars to Olangapo LOL, or maybe La union. So koreans can buy expensive drinks for the gurls and can still sing in their karaoke joints in friendship and pay the cops over there: D and the rest of the 3000 gurls can entertain us where "authorities" maybe not too greedy for the start and welcome the new dollar /euro flow and bars can make up and earn again.

Of course the new built Hi way to AC would be useless, cause nobody wants to go there LOL and when arriving at the PI NAia I seldem spot any "families or couples" arriving there. So, lets face it guys. Philippines missed the big grow after the 1980. Ermita was shot down by this Chinese Idiot Lim who caused billions of dollars which now flow into Thailand and other asian locations. Enough aint enough. If you give money to them its never enough. I ask my ex pampangan GF once. She says, yes, its not enough its never enough cause you foreigners have many money and thats why its never enough, we want allways more.

Anyway, I will enjoy AC until its last and because I live here I have enough pussy to get into my bedroom. I don't need AC, don't need bars, don't need gurls. BUT THEY NEED ME!

Happy day to all

BlinkYes it is the usual style for the AC, but it has just gotten worse and worse and worse over the past few months. They "extortionists and "jojo" group are seemingly going to milk the bars until there are no more bars. Classic case of what I term to be Filipinoitis (which is where they take a knowingly loaded gun, point it at their feet, pull the trigger, blow their foot off and then complain/***** to the entire world that it was not their fault). I understand that they live and think for the second with no consideration for the future whatsoever, but the potential is certainly there for many to lose their "playground" and that imo just sucks.

I agree and like your suggestion and there are many bars that are seriously considering moving operations to that area (subic and surrounding areas). There are also a few newer bars in that same area and I expect that there will continue to be more new bars opening there in the future as well. Not as many as in AC, but certainly more than there currently are now.

Excellent example of the local pamangan thinking/logic. It is so very true that they think and live their lives like this.

I am in the same boat as you, I live here as well and the bars certainly need me more than I need them. I have my favorites and those bars have earned it by treating me right the first time and every time since then that I visit them.

Like it or not the new AC is vastly different than just a years ago and all sings point to that it will continue on this (imo) downward trend, but there are other places in SEA to go to and/or live in, so all is not lost.

Notanocker
06-18-08, 12:27
Devoman, on my recent trip I used Cebu Pacific for one return trip domestically, not internationally.

It was within 10 minutes of schedule on both legs. Perfectly adequate.

However if you look at the blogs at www.tripadvisor.co.uk, under 'Philippines', there are some negative comments about late running on occasion.

The airline's fares seem generally quite cheap and I have never had a problem, but take the time to read these blogs to see if you agree with me.

HornyGeorge
06-18-08, 18:57
Nobody flies from HKG to CRK at this time. From HKG you must fly to MNL then take a bus or taxi for the 2 hour (or so) ride to Angeles.

Cebu Pacific is OK; yes delays are not unusual but the bigger hassle is buying a ticket outside the country. US or UK credit cards will not work on their website so you must call (Manila or Cebu so not cheap) and expect long hold times. They do not interline baggage either.

Check out PAL and if the price is not much different (sometimes there is no difference in cost, other times it is a big difference), take PAL instead. Both have 3 flights a day.

OasisHongKong used to fly the route, and may still, but getting tickets or info online has proved impossible.

Amavida
06-19-08, 03:48
Devoman, on my recent trip I used Cebu Pacific for one return trip domestically, not internationally.

It was within 10 minutes of schedule on both legs. Perfectly adequate.

However if you look at the blogs at www.tripadvisor.co.uk, under 'Philippines', there are some negative comments about late running on occasion.

The airline's fares seem generally quite cheap and I have never had a problem, but take the time to read these blogs to see if you agree with me.I use them domestically all the time. Yes there are departure delays but other domestics flying out of Manila airport for instance suffer these delays also. I dont have a problem with their service or aircraft & their prices are very good if you book well ahead.
AV

Amavida
06-19-08, 03:50
The June newsletter is now available at

http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/jun08/.

Updates on Ray Kelly shooting, extortions mentioned in earlier posts, reports and photos of bars (nice pics of scantily dressed girls), and the Doll House raid.

SlimRobbery I take in my stride but killing expats (gruesomely) is a big worry for me. Don't think I wanna ever make a home in Pampanga..
AV

Blink157
06-19-08, 03:56
Hi,
yes acfreddy they not much keen :D

Some examples of encounters I had recently.

in a hotel in subic

Me: Do you have also rooms with bayview where I can see the beach?
rumboy: Sir, if you want to see the beach you go there and you can see it

Me: Do you have wifi access in the lobby?
frontdesk: No, sorry we dont have
Me: whats that? (pointing at the blue wifi box)
frontdesk: Thats internet sir


I swear to god that really happend in a newly built hotel in Subic..Hint...they run also 2 hotels in AC :D

If you spend ur dollars on building the thing you have to safe up some money , just dont safe it on the staff LOL

With Subic nearby I will just take the gurls to SUbic from Ac and have a good time there. I dont wana deal on my precious weekends with "stupid authorities" Im there to relax and have fun and if that wont work any more I will just go somewhere else..As I have mentioned before, I dont need AC to get laid :D..but AC needs ME and MORE TOURISTS or it will just get LAID OFF..
which means you guys can switch back to plant rice fields, sell your cars and buy more calabao and chicken cause Why the fxxck a foreigner should go to AC if there aint no playground any more..is there any beach???...no...anything worth seeing and visiting?...no

Anyway, looking forward to go there tomrow, get drunk, get laid and then go to subic with whatever gurl suites me :D

Happy days

Blink

Nuevo
06-19-08, 05:20
Online attempts at booking on the Cebu Pacific web site have failed. I've made over ten attempts (I've lost count), all were declined. My bank (Wells Fargo) says it isn't them. They have recieved no requests from the Cebu Pacific Web Site attempts. I called Cebu Pacific and the rep made an attempt and that was declined. I've called Wells Fargo more times than I care to admit. I did get them to tell me that attempts to charge my card had hit the incredibly awful "Verified by Visa (VBV)" system twice but that those attempted purchases which were approved by VBV never came into the Wells Fargo system. My bank also told me that the requests that hit Verified by Visa were for $3700 vs 3700 Baht ($112). (Even at $3700, my bank says the purchase would not have been declined.

The air tickets I want to purchase on Cebu Pacific's site are at a great price compared to everything else I've scene on the web. For example, the one I have been trying to make from BKK to Manila is only the $112 noted above. Nothing else I have found is even close. I did find another site that offered tickets for Cebu Pacific, the same flight was $50 US more; but still a good deal. They got declined also and the hit on VBV was approved for $4200 US.

Needless to say I'm a bit upset that I can't make this and the other purchases from Cebu Pacific that I require.

After two weeks of attempts at dealing with Cebu Pacific and my bank, I've been left no alternative but to -- drink

I have heard that online purchases from Phillipine vendors are on some sort of hot list. I've made other purchases from other international airlines for this upcoming trip that have not had this problem (e.g., Royal Jordanian Airlines).

I'm looking for a work around. I tried finding a US travel agency that deals with Cebu Pacific reservations. I think that this could be a solution to my problem, but I can't find one.

Help Please!

N1

PS. I am posting this request for help on another site. Sorry, I'm getting...

Member #4214
06-19-08, 06:21
Online attempts at booking on the Cebu Pacific web site have failed. I've made over ten attempts ...I live in Taiwan and went through this recently also. Apparently, for some reason or another, the Cebu Pacific site cannot process charges on US-issued cards. Not sure why, but it is widely recognized among expats here and has been an issue for a couple years. My suspicion is that US cards have had to deal with too much fraud out of Phils, and just don't want to deal with small internet charges from a Phil origin. Or they are charging Phil orgins with extra fees to cover fraud protection, and CP just refuses? (I was using Citibank Visa, and when I called Citibank's call center in Phils, they swore up and down that they would accept the charge and shouldn't be an issue. Still, the CP website couldn't process ...)

I went to my local Cebu Pacific office and paid cash for my ticket - but had to pay an additional, significant charge for the privilege!

I was also told that a best option is to get a card issued in Taiwan, and then book my tickets online with that. Haven't gone that route yet, but you get the point.

Ekspat
06-19-08, 09:03
Nobody flies from HKG to CRK at this time. From HKG you must fly to MNL then take a bus or taxi for the 2 hour (or so) ride to Angeles.
Clarke schedule I've found here.
http://www.visitclark.com/flights/showsched.asp
But be aware it's Oct 2007, so 9 months old.

OasisHongKong used to fly the route, and may still, but getting tickets or info online has proved impossible.
Huh? Oasis Hongkong is long time bankrupt.
They don't take off anymore.

X Man
06-19-08, 15:29
Huh? I thought you lived there six months out of the year?


Robbery I take in my stride but killing expats (gruesomely) is a big worry for me. Don't think I wanna ever make a home in Pampanga..
AV

Sick boy 3
06-19-08, 16:21
I had the same problem last December with them also. You were lucky to get a company rep to help you. I tried many times but to no avail. Since I had a friend from Bangkok, I had her get me some tickets at an agent in Bangkok. I had to Western Union money to her, and then the trouble of her taking the time to get them. You could try and get a travel rep I guess from Bangkok or Manila to get the tickets for you. It seems they should have straightened things out by now. It worked fine 2 years ago. I had sent them numerous e-mails complaining, and you think enough Americans would also complain over time. Then again, the Philippine way of during things. Fucked up as normal. After I made a trip to their ticket office in Manila, things were so screwed up there. I was able to use an American credit card at their office with no problem, so it has to do with the internet payment process.

Purchasing on the internet is really hassle free, but I said. F--it. And ended up going Philippine Air from Bangkok to Manila. They had better times to depart and arrive, and it was about $50 more. Cebu Pacific has some great prices, but the international times to fly really suck. All pretty much red eye flights except ones going to Hong Kong.

BigSmile
06-19-08, 17:22
Cebu won't take cards from UK either. Or is it the other way round!

Chuckster007
06-19-08, 18:30
Hi guys,

I am planning a trip to Angeles City and need some advice. I was thinking of flying from Hong Kong directly to Clark using Cebu Air. I have been told that this could be a bad idea as Cebu Air is notoriously late and unreliable.

I don't want to miss my connection in Hong Kong so this concerns me. Does anyone have any info on Cebu Air, or travel from AC to HK? I greatly appreciate any advice provided.

DevoIf you want to fly to AC from HK, the cheapest and best way is to take the boat to Macau, then take Tiger Airways directly to Clark. The return ticket is less than 1K HK dollars. I have booked mine already for next week and it was 862 Hk$ incl tax. Very cheap.

HornyGeorge
06-19-08, 20:42
Even tickets bought on PAL.com often trigger fraud blocks by cc issues, but you can get around that by calling your cc issuer. However, before you can fly you must go IN PERSON to a PAL office to show the cc used. My friend left the cc at home and had to buy a whole new ticket (full fare of course) and is still awaiting the refund of the original ticket.

By calling OR going to ticket office, I never had a problem using my credit card for Cebu Pacific. Trouble is LOTS of waiting.

If you have a friend in PI you trust, have them buy it (they do eticketing BUT not good about emailing and to enter airport you need a printout).

My suggestion to the guy having such difficulty is to find a travel agent IN THE PI (few/any foreign travel agents will sell CP tickets). They will charge about $10 service fee, and if you want a refund or want to change it you must go through the travel agent.

Member #4214
06-19-08, 23:12
My suggestion .. is to find a travel agent IN THE PI (few/any foreign travel agents will sell CP tickets). They will charge about $10 service fee, and if you want a refund or want to change it you must go through the travel agent.Nice. In theory. Beeline Travel told me the airlines don't let them buy tickets that don't originate in Phils.

Amavida
06-20-08, 03:41
Guys it depends on the ISSUING BANK of the Credit Card as to which is refused or not when booking a flight with say Cebu Pacific for example.

IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE AIRLINE.

One VISA card will be refused where another VISA will not. Same for Mastercard.

I use a platinum VISA Issued by Citibank & covered by insurance. It is never refused. Other VISA & MASTERCARDS that I have, issued by Australian Banks, are often refused.

It depends on the ISSUING BANK of the Credit Card as to which is refused or not.

AV

Mr Jetsetter
06-20-08, 05:21
I used a Barclays Bank Mastercard to purchase an incredibly cheap ($192) roundtrip ticket between Manilla and Bangkok on Cebu Pacific's web site and had no problems whatsoever. My flights are in November, however, and I guess there is still plenty of time for something to go wrong!

Amavida
06-20-08, 05:52
Huh? I thought you lived there six months out of the year?Hello X, you're not keeping up mate! As of January I live here in PP (Pussy Paradise) full time. p.s. here's another pic of me for you to deface... could you use a green crayon this time?
AV

Cowboy Mike
06-20-08, 06:43
Online attempts at booking on the Cebu Pacific web site have failed.Try dumbing your browser cache and rebooting. Sometimes the old transaction cookie will sit there until it is wiped off.

Horntoad
06-20-08, 09:15
Guys it depends on the ISSUING BANK of the Credit Card as to which is refused or not when booking a flight with say Cebu Pacific for example.

IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE AIRLINE.

One VISA card will be refused where another VISA will not. Same for Mastercard.

I use a platinum VISA Issued by Citibank & covered by insurance. It is never refused. Other VISA & MASTERCARDS that I have, issued by Australian Banks, are often refused.

It depends on the ISSUING BANK of the Credit Card as to which is refused or not.

AV

Normally you're correct but it is Cebu Pacific's website that is the issue. It will take some credit cards from different countries but not others. It will take a credit card from China but not the United States, Canada, Australia etc. due too too much fraud from these countries. My friends have tried the Visa Verified and Mastercard Secure but it still doesn't go through. When they call Cebu Pacific, the representatives are not very helpful.

X Man
06-20-08, 12:18
Congratulations on living in Philippines. Hopefully, you'll be posting some great field reports. Have you been anywhere other than AC?

I'll be visiting next month. Maybe we should get together, drink a few brews, and reminisce about all of our great exchanges at ISG. Maybe not...

You once told me you spent too much time in AC, sorry to have assumed that that is the place where you live.

Mate, you can't use a crayon to change a digital photgraph. Sorry to state the obvious.

note: AV is making a joke referring some posts made in the Filipinas thread where there was some antagonism after AV posted the private picture of an older gentleman who apparently is engaged to someone AV cares about. The original picture has since been removed.

X


Hello X, you're not keeping up mate! As of January I live here in PP (Pussy Paradise) full time. p.s. here's another pic of me for you to deface... could you use a green crayon this time?
AV

Ace of Spades
06-20-08, 15:58
I am in Macau now. Tommorow, I will be flying to AC with Tiger Air.

I have flown out of HK previously. Macau is the better of the two places, most things are cheaper, such as food, transporation, internet, etc.. if you have to stay for a few days to catch your flight.

Small hotels expect to pay 250 to 300 HK dollars at least. Guest houses: 120 to 200 HK dollars.

There are plenty of casinos to keep gamblers busy --- casinos offer free drinks and some even have lounges where you can use the internet for free, such as ther Lisboa Casino top floor.

My ticket to AC from Macau was about 800 or 900 HK dollars. You can buy directly at the airport (11pm to 3pm) or through a travel agent/internet cafes, especially those located where the filipinos live and work.

If anybody needs exact information, send me a PM.

Buko Max
06-20-08, 17:32
Have you or any other ISG member ever flown Tiger ?
I would really like to save the money, but I am concered about this Carrier. Can you or anyone give some info on Service and Equipment.
Yes I have flown Tiger and I would highly recommend them!
All new equipment and the service is probably the best amongst the discount carriers because they are owned by Singapore Airlines.


You once told me you spent too much time in AC...
Yes he visited one time and now he thinks he is an expert! :o

Bob Down
06-21-08, 08:39
[QUOTE=Mattrick]


Glad to hear this, I believe I will give it a try .
I will land in HKG for two-nites and come to Macau by Ferry . Is the airport far from Ferry ?
Anymore recommendations are appreciated.
What would you guys do for one day and nite in Macau before I leavr for Mecca!
I have NO interest in Gambling. My main interest is what we all have in common and a little site seeing.Thanks HUSKY

Macau has it's own thread, you could start there for ideas of things to do.

HenryV
06-21-08, 15:45
You can get the ferry from the airport.


[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]

Macau has it's own thread, you could start there for ideas of things to do.

Benzedrine
06-22-08, 09:27
I arrived in Manila and met some fellow mongers at the airport and hitched a ride with them. They had the Hotel Amsterdam van waiting for them. Willy, the driver was pretty cool. He stops when you need him to for whatever. We ate at KFC and got some San Mig for the road. Beware of the ride to AC. It’s only about 50 km, but Manila traffic is ruthless, and the airport happens to be on the other side of the city (south side)so it takes about an hour just to leave the urban sprawl. At the airport, I changed 360 USD at the booth all the way at the end. They usually give the best rates because they are out of the way. I got about 15, 000 pesos. Don’t change all your money at once. Use ATMs. The ones near Fields Ave give out 10, 000 pesos at once. The out of the way ones tend to stop you at around 5000. I learnt this the hard way in Subic where I tried about 8 before I finally found an ATM that would spit out money for my US issed Mastercard ATM. There is also one at SM Mall that takes (gasp) American Express. Beware of the Visa only ATM next to Jollebee. That walk in the 33 degree C heat was pretty self-critiquing.

I ended up staying at 3 hotels for various reasons that I will not discuss to protect the guilty. I will, however, tell you about my experience.

Swiss Chalet. Friendly staff. Almert and Ming at the front desk are pretty cool, Bong the afternoon door attendant, and the night security guard all come to mind that went out of their way to help. Pretty girl friendly, they sign the girls in and out after a certain hour to protect you. It’s a pretty small place, but the rooms were a good size, with a fridge, minibar with chocolate, water, beer, wine, etc. Internet signal in the room, but the connection was pretty sluggish and annoying. The bed did its job for business, if you get my drift. The best bathrooms out of any place I stayed. Restaurant was ok, the waitresses are real cool though. I also loved the location. Right behind Blow Row (yuck, I tried it out once, 600 pesos is unbelievable, but the girls reflect it. I think I could see HIV in some of those girls faces) next to Crystal Palace and Tropix, Las Vegas is around the corner for quick shows. I think my favorite thing was the safe in the room.

After a week, I stayed in Clarkton. The Deluxe room. Mirror was cool, but it was mounted too high so I couldn’t really see myself fucking. It was relatively clean, but it was beat down and old with a musty smell. Nothing special. I paid 1800 pesos a night. Best minibar though.

America Hotel is for the budget minded traveler. Rooms are like 1000 pesos. I got the 1200 peso room with the fridge and minibar. It is huuuuuge! I could fit a Filipino family in here. It is a very old hotel though, rooms look real beat up, stuff is leaking, the clock is broke, the bathtub is cracked, towels are ripped, ants everywhere, etc. But hey, you get a pool, a balcony, an awesome mirror and a place to bang! I will give the staff one thing though, everytime a girl comes in or out the are very aggressive about making sure that you are ok with it, so if you like security in that manner, this hotel is for you. I did not like the fact that there were no safes. I hated having to stop at the front desk and wait for the girls to give me my stuff every time. They are also very pushy about paying every day. Swiss Chalet only requires you to pay when you reach 15, 000 pesos. One thing that pisses me off still is the fact that they did not have an iron. I’ve never been to a hotel without an iron at the front desk. It still irks me.

Ok, enough about hotels, I’ll talk about my "bar-hopping" experience, as the locals like to call it.

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Benzedrine
06-22-08, 10:39
Get a cell phone! Buy a Globe or Smart SIM and pre-program your Yahoo Messenger in a text/SMS template folder in your phone, because if you are proactive you will text your number and YM to every girl you meet. Don't be like me and get drunk and leave your phone in a trike and have to start from scratch, however.

Talk to your fellow mongers! Too many unfriendly fellows here, I had a smile on my face the whole time for obvious reasons. You are here to have fun! Do it!

I met some cool folks from India, Malaysia, NZ, and USA doing the same things as me. It's interesting talking to guys, I found out about happy hours and shows that otherwise I would have been in the dark for.

I also built a relationship with some of the folks at my hotels, so they looked out for me, went the extra mile, and even introduced me to their young, beautiful family members and friends. A housekeeper at one of my hotels even introduced me to her daughter because she thought I was a nice guy!

AC Map dot Com. Study it! Bookmark it! All the bars are on there.

I’m going to skip the bullshit and day to day details because I don’t remember. 11 days in this place all runs into each other. I’m going to tell you though, in my experience, how a 23 year old kid found some fun.

I know everybody has different preferences, but stay away from the Doll House type establishments the first couple of days you are there. Go with a girl if you want to check out the cool shows and painting or whatnot. It’s the wrong type of atmosphere for new guys. You can tell the type of place by looking at the bell ringing price (not that I recommend that) and LD price. If the bell is over 4000 pesos and ladies drinks are over 100, then you need to head somewhere else. Perhaps out to Perimeter Road.

Perimeter bars are a friendlier atmosphere, cheaper, and less crowded. IMO the girls generally look the same to me depending on the bar as the Fields institutions. One thing you have to be careful about is going there late. A lot of girls disappear. I chased this one slender hottie three nights in a row at Foxy bar and gave up because she got BFed early each night. Around midnight you need to head over to Fields. I recommend Champagne, Typhoon (take the tequila girl home, their outfit is just so hot) Welcome Inn (there are a couple of girls that will suck your dick during the daytime there if there is nobody is looking if you’re nice to them). Alaska because the girls dance in regular thongs. Pretty seedy place. Edelweiss is good fun, few girls, but very energetic. Another place I recommend is Emotions, the girls there are really fun, I got a BBBJ by 4 girls for the price of an LD. One girl had a blanket so that made it ok. Hahah Allan, the guy that runs the two bars there also likes to hand out shots.

I recommend the new bar in the Tartz building, next to Roadies and Lost in Asia. Owned by a Scottish dude, beautiful girls in awesome red bikinis. Check it out.

About the girls. It seems like at the bars there are an equal amount of waitresses as dancers. All are up for grabs, including the door girls, and probably even mamasan if you want. Heh. I found a lot of the waitresses more attractive than the dancers a lot of times, but whatever floats your balls.

First, LOOK AT THEIR ID. If you see a red V on the right side, she is a cherry girl. Don’t even waste your time with that.

The biggest piece of advice I can give you, is build rapport with the bar. If your waitress is cool, buy her an LD and they usually are pretty helpful in your selection. If you’re really having trouble, find a cool mamasan and buy her a drink and get her to work for you. But that is last resort, as the waitresses are the same age as the dancers so usually they are good friends and know which girls are willing to explore. In Champagne for example I found a group of waitresses that specialized in girl shows! There are some good adventures to be found that you would have not known if you didn’t ask.

This goes without saying, but NEGOTIATE WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN YOUR ROOM BEFORE BF. Slim chance, but worse case you will get a girl that won’t get to business because you didn’t ask beforehand. This goes for BFing more than one as well. You may end up taking them one at a time, no DATY while the other waits if you do that without negotiating.

Last, smile and have a good time about it, don’t treat it like a business transaction, your experience will improve. Give her some change for a trike when you’re done.

BF prices.
Fields Ave-1350
Perimeter-1200 (beware of Perimeter “ST” it is the same as LT but they push it because most of the bars have hotels upstairs so you pay them 300 pesos an hour for the room and the girl gets back to work for more money the same night, not worth it IMO)
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD

Last but not least, I spent like 11-12 days in AC and only paid 3 bar fines, but fucked way more women than that. Lots of free pussy everywhere. 7-11, Chow King, SM Mall, the street (beware of the LB SWers though, unless that is your thing), your hotel front desk, The Earth is your playing ground. I especially like Sky Trax and R&B bar. The woman to man ratio was about 3:1 everytime I went. I know the crowd here is older and many do not like this type of music, but I saw some old hairy foreigners hooking up with young girls there and dancing and grinding on them for free. You can’t beat that. I know a tactic that I used that worked really well was inviting the girls who said they enjoy dancing to hip hop music from the bar to Skytrax when they got off at 1am, then later on lead them to my room. I feel so guilty. No BF, no cash exchange, sometimes maybe I bought them a drink at the club. Heh

Enjoy

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Fifty Fifty
06-23-08, 05:31
Nice reports and some excellent information, I am on my way !!!

Cheers, F/Fifty

Horntoad
06-23-08, 06:26
Can anyone tell me how much it costs to take a trike from Pacific Breeze to SM Mall and also to Perimeter? Usually walk to SM or take a Jeepney to Perimeter but since it is rainy season, probably will be taking more trikes on my next trip.
Thanks.

Warbucks
06-23-08, 07:29
Can anyone tell me how much it costs to take a trike from Pacific Breeze to SM Mall and also to Perimeter? Usually walk to SM or take a Jeepney to Perimeter but since it is rainy season, probably will be taking more trikes on my next trip.
Thanks.

50 pesos a pop is not going to kill you. :)

Warbucks
06-23-08, 07:31
I’m going to skip the bullshit and day to day details.....

Great Report. Most of what you wrote I discovered to be true on my cherry trip in Jan 08.

Fifty Fifty
06-23-08, 07:39
Can anyone tell me how much it costs to take a trike from Pacific Breeze to SM Mall and also to Perimeter? Usually walk to SM or take a Jeepney to Perimeter but since it is rainy season, probably will be taking more trikes on my next trip.
Thanks.
You could carry an umbrella to save money ;)

Cheers, F/Fifty

Chuckster007
06-23-08, 08:20
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Yes I have flown Tiger and I would highly recommend them!

All new equipment and the service is probably the best amongst the discount carriers because they are owned by Singapore Airlines.

Glad to hear this, I believe I will give it a try.

I will land in HKG for two-nites and come to Macau by Ferry . Is the airport far from Ferry?

Anymore recommendations are appreciated.

What would you guys do for one day and nite in Macau before I leavr for Mecca!
I have NO interest in Gambling. My main interest is what we all have in common and a little site seeing.Thanks HUSKYYo Husky, Tiger airways is great being its owned by Singapore Airlines as Mattrick said before. U dont get anything to eat or drink, beers cost about 5 Singapore dollars, i thinks that aprox 20 HKD. At least the flights only 1 1/2 hours straight into clark, beat flying direct to manila then another 2 hrs to get to AC.

The airport is 15 mins away from the ferry terminal in Macau, in a taxi it cost aprox 50HKD.

When are you going, 5 of us are going to AC on the 27th.

Blink157
06-23-08, 09:19
Hi to all,
after all this rain from the weekend a fast update from AC..

Management changes in bars...blue nile group kicked or swapped their papa sans. so dont be suprised of the new/old faces when you enter their bars...

Dollhouse has a back door entry to Crystal palace(Heartbreaker/pickupdisco) which means if you enter DH and have a beer, just go upstairs and take a look at Crystalpalace----one beer, 2 looks :D

When in Ac I realized many cops around bars, heavily armed..not sure if that should encourage me to enter the bars or discourage me to stay the fxxk away.
Well, I found out that when enter atlantis 2 days ago, 90% of the guys were asian..most be a holiday somewhere :D

Happy hunting

Blink

Gaijin Gigolo
06-23-08, 09:21
Thanks for a lot of useful tips. Will be making my first charge into the Phils sometime over the next few months and your posting will come in very handy. Cheers...


Get a cell phone! Buy a Globe or Smart SIM and pre-program your Yahoo Messenger in a text/SMS template folder in your phone, because if you are proactive you will text your number and YM to every girl you meet. Don't be like me and get drunk and leave your phone in a trike and have to start from scratch, however.

Talk to your fellow mongers! Too many unfriendly fellows here, I had a smile on my face the whole time for obvious reasons. You are here to have fun! Do it!

I met some cool folks from India, Malaysia, NZ, and USA doing the same things as me. It's interesting talking to guys, I found out about happy hours and shows that otherwise I would have been in the dark for.

I also built a relationship with some of the folks at my hotels, so they looked out for me, went the extra mile, and even introduced me to their young, beautiful family members and friends. A housekeeper at one of my hotels even introduced me to her daughter because she thought I was a nice guy!

AC Map dot Com. Study it! Bookmark it! All the bars are on there.

I’m going to skip the bullshit and day to day details because I don’t remember. 11 days in this place all runs into each other. I’m going to tell you though, in my experience, how a 23 year old kid found some fun.

I know everybody has different preferences, but stay away from the Doll House type establishments the first couple of days you are there. Go with a girl if you want to check out the cool shows and painting or whatnot. It’s the wrong type of atmosphere for new guys. You can tell the type of place by looking at the bell ringing price (not that I recommend that) and LD price. If the bell is over 4000 pesos and ladies drinks are over 100, then you need to head somewhere else. Perhaps out to Perimeter Road.

Perimeter bars are a friendlier atmosphere, cheaper, and less crowded. IMO the girls generally look the same to me depending on the bar as the Fields institutions. One thing you have to be careful about is going there late. A lot of girls disappear. I chased this one slender hottie three nights in a row at Foxy bar and gave up because she got BFed early each night. Around midnight you need to head over to Fields. I recommend Champagne, Typhoon (take the tequila girl home, their outfit is just so hot) Welcome Inn (there are a couple of girls that will suck your dick during the daytime there if there is nobody is looking if you’re nice to them). Alaska because the girls dance in regular thongs. Pretty seedy place. Edelweiss is good fun, few girls, but very energetic. Another place I recommend is Emotions, the girls there are really fun, I got a BBBJ by 4 girls for the price of an LD. One girl had a blanket so that made it ok. Hahah Allan, the guy that runs the two bars there also likes to hand out shots.

I recommend the new bar in the Tartz building, next to Roadies and Lost in Asia. Owned by a Scottish dude, beautiful girls in awesome red bikinis. Check it out.

About the girls. It seems like at the bars there are an equal amount of waitresses as dancers. All are up for grabs, including the door girls, and probably even mamasan if you want. Heh. I found a lot of the waitresses more attractive than the dancers a lot of times, but whatever floats your balls.

First, LOOK AT THEIR ID. If you see a red V on the right side, she is a cherry girl. Don’t even waste your time with that.

The biggest piece of advice I can give you, is build rapport with the bar. If your waitress is cool, buy her an LD and they usually are pretty helpful in your selection. If you’re really having trouble, find a cool mamasan and buy her a drink and get her to work for you. But that is last resort, as the waitresses are the same age as the dancers so usually they are good friends and know which girls are willing to explore. In Champagne for example I found a group of waitresses that specialized in girl shows! There are some good adventures to be found that you would have not known if you didn’t ask.

This goes without saying, but NEGOTIATE WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN YOUR ROOM BEFORE BF. Slim chance, but worse case you will get a girl that won’t get to business because you didn’t ask beforehand. This goes for BFing more than one as well. You may end up taking them one at a time, no DATY while the other waits if you do that without negotiating.

Last, smile and have a good time about it, don’t treat it like a business transaction, your experience will improve. Give her some change for a trike when you’re done.

BF prices.
Fields Ave-1350
Perimeter-1200 (beware of Perimeter “ST” it is the same as LT but they push it because most of the bars have hotels upstairs so you pay them 300 pesos an hour for the room and the girl gets back to work for more money the same night, not worth it IMO)
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD

Last but not least, I spent like 11-12 days in AC and only paid 3 bar fines, but fucked way more women than that. Lots of free pussy everywhere. 7-11, Chow King, SM Mall, the street (beware of the LB SWers though, unless that is your thing), your hotel front desk, The Earth is your playing ground. I especially like Sky Trax and R&B bar. The woman to man ratio was about 3:1 everytime I went. I know the crowd here is older and many do not like this type of music, but I saw some old hairy foreigners hooking up with young girls there and dancing and grinding on them for free. You can’t beat that. I know a tactic that I used that worked really well was inviting the girls who said they enjoy dancing to hip hop music from the bar to Skytrax when they got off at 1am, then later on lead them to my room. I feel so guilty. No BF, no cash exchange, sometimes maybe I bought them a drink at the club. Heh

Enjoy

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Bob Down
06-23-08, 11:03
50 pesos a pop is not going to kill you. :)

Can you still get a 50 peso trike in AC? it's more like 70 peso now. Got a trike from Preimeter to Pacific Breeze once, and the cheeky bugger wanted a tip! I don't feel the need to use a trike unless you have a girl with you, and you are in Perimeter.

Benzedrine
06-23-08, 13:13
Dollhouse has a back door entry to Crystal palace(Heartbreaker/pickupdisco) which means if you enter DH and have a beer, just go upstairs and take a look at Crystalpalace----one beer, 2 looks :D

When in Ac I realized many cops around bars, heavily armed..not sure if that should encourage me to enter the bars or discourage me to stay the fxxk away.
Well, I found out that when enter atlantis 2 days ago, 90% of the guys were asian..most be a holiday somewhere :D

Happy hunting

BlinkAbout the cops, every couple of days while I've been here, the SWAT team or task force or whatever they are show up in their Toyota Hilux that looks like a chopped up paddy wagon, decked out in tactical gear and what looks like ancient M16A1s, which if you are familiar with jam up a lot. Not that I'd still mess with them. No clue what they are after, or if they are just for "prevention. "

I saw a working dog the other day, so don't carry drugs on Fields Ave.

It can't be that bad though, in front of DMZ bar I met a copper fellow in a blue uniform (the typical cops you see on Fields) that was rather friendly. Turns out his wife is a waitress at doll house.

Wish I had known about the DollHouse backdoor while I lived in the Swiss Hotel! Shortcut to Fields.

An update about hotels. Today I checked out ABC Hotel. Imelda, the Sales/Marketing Manager (very good looking also mind you) was nice enough to give me a tour. I wish I would have known about it sooner! The cheapest room is 99 bucks US a day, but it is sooooo worth it! The pool and the jacuzzi just seal the deal. Don't forget that they also have a spa, gym, and free shuttle bus! Where I come from a room like that would cost 200 bucks a night. I'll also let you know, today I did some experimentation in the bars, and I casually mentioned to a few girls that I was staying in ABC Hotel. The reaction I got was eyes bugging out of their sockets, and all of a sudden the rubbing on my dick got more intense. Too bad I had to say just kidding. Heh There must be a reason why one of the first questions the girls always ask when you buy them LD is where are you staying. : D

So you guys keep that in mind, perhaps you could do some mental math and weigh the cost of staying in ABC minus Hotel America next door's price versus possibly getting lots of free pussy because they want to stay in a nice hotel for the night. Next time I'll consider that.

Ok, update from today. I splurged (no pun intended) on 3 girls at Touch of Class bar, two dancers and a waitress. The waitress was preggo and barely showing, while the two dancers were roomates with great hips. I pick my girls based on eagerness and willingness to go the extra kilometer, not outright beauty. I got several assurances that they would devour each others pussy, and boy did they deliver. I used a total of 5 condoms, heh, and the fun included BBBJ with two girls rubbing my nipples and cupping my balls, two girls on my dick and one on the balls, cowgirl while my nipples got sucked by two girls, doggy while my asshole was fondled, and goodness knows what else, I don't even remember.

The preggo chick kissed me while two girls jerked me off and licked my chest, but I had to take over and milk myself before my two hour short time room expired!

I stayed in Perimeter Hotel, and it actually wasn't too bad. It served its purpose and was way cleaner and newer than America Hotel!

And yeah if you pay more than 70 pesos for a trike in the local area, you got ripped. I can get a trike from Fields to Stargate, which is the farthest bar, for 70 pesos. Most of the time I pay 50, but some trike drivers will not even take you for the correct price because you are a foreigner. Just keep on walking if that is the case.

X Man
06-23-08, 14:00
If you are further out from Fields onto Perimeter, the fee is 70. Clarkton Hotel to Fields is 70, but I'd be happy to drop 100 for that distance.

Don't expect them to give you change for large bills (500). Plan accordingly, or walk go into a shop or your hotel to get change.

If you have doubts about the fee, ask the staff at the hotel or bar you happen to be in. If you do a barfine, ask her.... Or better yet, give her 100 and ask her to take care of business. She's usally the one sitting closest to the trike driver anyway.

X


Can you still get a 50 peso trike in AC? it's more like 70 peso now. Got a trike from Preimeter to Pacific Breeze once, and the cheeky bugger wanted a tip! I don't feel the need to use a trike unless you have a girl with you, and you are in Perimeter.

Travel Fox
06-24-08, 00:01
I stayed out at Clarkton my only trip to Angeles and I paid 50 to Fields. I never got even a reproach from the trike guys. I asked what the fee should be from a few in the hotel and they said 50p. I once did a round trip from Clarkton to the mall and back and we negotiated 150 but he waited for me to hit a few ATMs until I found one that was working. The driver also knew he had me by the balls as I was on my way to airport and needed the taxi fare ASAP, I started the negotiations at 100.

No mean to offend but this was as recent as February.

Has the price changed since then?

Travelfox

Warbucks
06-24-08, 04:14
Can anyone tell me how much it costs to take a trike from Pacific Breeze to SM Mall and also to Perimeter? Usually walk to SM or take a Jeepney to Perimeter but since it is rainy season, probably will be taking more trikes on my next trip.
Thanks.

Most of your dough is going to go to barfines, tips, eating (eating for two) and lady drinks. why are you worried about the price of trike rides?

Amavida
06-24-08, 04:44
I stayed out at Clarkton my only trip to Angeles and I paid 50 to Fields. I never got even a reproach from the trike guys. I asked what the fee should be from a few in the hotel and they said 50p. I once did a round trip from Clarkton to the mall and back and we negotiated 150 but he waited for me to hit a few ATMs until I found one that was working. The driver also knew he had me by the balls as I was on my way to airport and needed the taxi fare ASAP, I started the negotiations at 100.

No mean to offend but this was as recent as February.

Has the price changed since then?

TravelfoxJust as a matter of interest, the prices being charged for trikes around the bars of AC are very high in comparison to 'normal' areas of Phils cities/towns. Its still cheap & convenient transport tho so dont worry. It occurs to me that although these guys are charging 10x the going rate elsewhere, they still look like dirt poor grubs.. and another thing, the girls have the potential to earn a weekly salary far in excess of her square sisters but like all hookers they are always broke... hmmm...
AV

Rob Woodrow
06-24-08, 05:27
BF prices.
Fields Ave-1350
Perimeter-1200 (beware of Perimeter “ST” it is the same as LT but they push it because most of the bars have hotels upstairs so you pay them 300 pesos an hour for the room and the girl gets back to work for more money the same night, not worth it IMO)
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD
Santos girls blow the same customers as Fields girls. Why would you think Fields girls are any cleaner?

Bob Down
06-24-08, 08:04
If you are further out from Fields onto Perimeter, the fee is 70. Clarkton Hotel to Fields is 70, but I'd be happy to drop 100 for that distance.

Don't expect them to give you change for large bills (500). Plan accordingly, or walk go into a shop or your hotel to get change.

If you have doubts about the fee, ask the staff at the hotel or bar you happen to be in. If you do a barfine, ask her.... Or better yet, give her 100 and ask her to take care of business. She's usally the one sitting closest to the trike driver anyway.

X

I know a bargirl who refuses to give her money to trike drivers, she would rather take a Jeepney and walk than give them anything. As AV has pointed out, and I found out for myself than you can go the same distance in Subic for 15 peso as you can for 70 peso in AC. Even the doorman at Pacific Breeze had a laugh to himself when he heard this trike driver ask me for a tip for a 70 peso ride.

Trike drivers don't treat the girls any differently to us, they know the girl have money or they think the girls have money. Trike drivers never carry any change and they try that on the girls that I have spoken to aswell.

After all that said, you'll still see a number of girls that use trikes to get too and from work.

Bob Down
06-24-08, 08:09
Santos girls blow the same customers as Fields girls. Why would you think Fields girls are any cleaner?

Rob, ask a Fields girl if she is cleaner than a Santos girl. I would be interested in her answer.

Bold Focker
06-24-08, 09:33
In Cebu the taxi are not only cheaper, but they are also much bigger.

You can stand up in them to get in and out. In AC you have all the big western guys and the smallest back-breaking trike even. Go figure!!



I know a bargirl who refuses to give her money to trike drivers, she would rather take a Jeepney and walk than give them anything. As AV has pointed out, and I found out for myself than you can go the same distance in Subic for 15 peso as you can for 70 peso in AC. Even the doorman at Pacific Breeze had a laugh to himself when he heard this trike driver ask me for a tip for a 70 peso ride.

Trike drivers don't treat the girls any differently to us, they know the girl have money or they think the girls have money. Trike drivers never carry any change and they try that on the girls that I have spoken to aswell.

After all that said, you'll still see a number of girls that use trikes to get too and from work.

HenryV
06-24-08, 15:45
Over the years I have had very bad experiences with the trike drivers. I purposley stay in an area where I can limit there use. Indeed, I have walked to perimeter road and back just to avoid them.


Just as a matter of interest, the prices being charged for trikes around the bars of AC are very high in comparison to 'normal' areas of Phils cities/towns. Its still cheap & convenient transport tho so dont worry. It occurs to me that although these guys are charging 10x the going rate elsewhere, they still look like dirt poor grubs.. and another thing, the girls have the potential to earn a weekly salary far in excess of her square sisters but like all hookers they are always broke... hmmm...
AV

HornyGeorge
06-24-08, 18:33
I avoid trikes in Angeles except where absolutely necessary. They are scum, pure and simple. NOWHERE else in the PI are trike rates even half of the ridiculous amounts they charge. The jeepneys are not 5 times as expensive as elsewhere and there is no reason th trikes should be. They gouge filipinos also.

Taking a jeepney is more comfortable and provides a good chance to meet nice girls you'd never get a chance to flirt with otherwise.

BigSmile
06-24-08, 22:05
Just found out that Cat 2 typhoon Fengshen passed through Philippines over the weekend. On wunderground it shows the track as being close to Boracay and going through Manila, and Angles City. All my favorite places.

Any reports? Is AC still standing? Everyone OK? Girls still fucking?

Blackangst
06-24-08, 22:32
BF prices.
Fields Ave-1350
Perimeter-1200 (beware of Perimeter “ST” it is the same as LT but they push it because most of the bars have hotels upstairs so you pay them 300 pesos an hour for the room and the girl gets back to work for more money the same night, not worth it IMO)
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD

Your report was very good and accurate; however your STD comment is very misleading. Look. A girl who takes 100 clean loads is safer than a girl who takes 1 infected one diba? You really dont know. There was a cherry girl at Alaska that went to Atlantis. She was bf'd more than alot of the regular girls. Why? She was smoking hot and she swallowed. Sure, she was technically a virgin, but she had more cocks in her mouth than a KFC manager. She was more at risk than alot of non-cherry girls just by the odds.

Im not flaming you man youre one of us, and gave a very helpful report for the noobs. But this whole notion blow row girls have a higher rate of infection is wrong. Most mongers go bareback. Thats a fact. So it doesnt matter WHERE a girl takes a load, if a guy is infected so is she. Ive heard this assumption for so many years and the stats just dont support it.

Anyway. Stay safe out there =)

Aussiec
06-25-08, 00:31
Well I heard from some of my "girlfriends" Only damage I heard was there was small electrical fire at touch of class on Perimeter RD. My frind from "Bodyshop" has informed me that after storm business is as normal. Good time to go cuz she told me this is low season and Mongers are wanted.

Travel Fox
06-25-08, 00:48
"Just as a matter of interest, the prices being charged for trikes around the bars of AC are very high in comparison to 'normal' areas of Phils cities/towns."

I guess the idea is to find out what the price actually is as opposed to taking what a couple may be paying as being the gospel. In Pattaya this sort of thing used to happen (arbitrary pricing) and then probably after a few foreigners got the shit kicked out of them, the baht bus council or what ever started to post the fares even though they were already "established". Even though the prices were well established they had to post them in order to let the first time visitors or uninitiated know what the prices were. It was the greed of the drivers that started to get out of hand if I remember correctly. And I may be wrong but am probably closer to what happened than further...

Funny thing is that in Pattaya, and relatively few foreigners know this, the correct fare for all persons is 5 baht. But some first worlder probably went and said "hey that aint fair, we should be paying 10 baht". And the baht bus drivers said (in Thai) "well so be it" and that was the price thenceforth (is that a word? haha) and all baht bus drivers smiled and drank large Singhas.

I once, on a whim during a trip to Pattaya 3 years or so ago, told my friends that the baht bus was 5 baht for everyone. They told me I was crazy and that for us it is 10 baht (yes I normally pay 10 and locals pay 5). And on the next ride I acted like I did not know them and paid 5 baht and walked away without even a whisper from the bus driver. They refused to believe even after I paid 5 right in front of them and then screamed at me the fare was 10 baht for us. That moment, gave me a lot of insight on the western way of thinking and that no matter what there are guys out there who will superimpose western views on a third world situation.

Travelfox

Ekspat
06-25-08, 01:45
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD
Not necessarily.
I've got my one and only STD from a Fields girl.

Cheers!

Rob Woodrow
06-25-08, 04:12
Rob, ask a Fields girl if she is cleaner than a Santos girl. I would be interested in her answer.
No, I don't believe in poking the hornets' nest. Still, I don't see why I should trust her answer on that any more than I would trust her to review my 401k to make sure my investments are balanced.

Betong
06-25-08, 05:12
Funny thing is that in Pattaya, and relatively few foreigners know this, the correct fare for all persons is 5 baht.That was true till a couple months ago, but my Thai friends say that they also pay 10 baht now. Pretty reasonable considering the cost of diesel has about tripled since the 5B fare first went into effect.

Ekspat
06-25-08, 07:45
Good time to go cuz she told me this is low season and Mongers are wanted.
Yeah, good to know, for me 15 more days till next visit..... :D

Cheers!

HenryV
06-25-08, 15:46
"Scum" - your being too kind.

A few years ago I was in AC with my son and nephew. A trike driver tried to take them to "play cards." We all know what that means. Had it not been for the fact I warned them, and told them what direction they should be going in, they would have had a bit of a problem on their hands.

Walk, its good exercise.


I avoid trikes in Angeles except where absolutely necessary. They are scum, pure and simple. NOWHERE else in the PI are trike rates even half of the ridiculous amounts they charge. The jeepneys are not 5 times as expensive as elsewhere and there is no reason th trikes should be. They gouge filipinos also.

Taking a jeepney is more comfortable and provides a good chance to meet nice girls you'd never get a chance to flirt with otherwise.

Ace of Spades
06-25-08, 16:35
I am in AC presently -- this is my second trip in a year. Already, the trike drivers have started to get on my nerves. I was in Manilla recently, I took a taxi around town, I was amazzed at how cheap the fare was to go from point A to B. The same distance in AC or shorter a trike driver would want double or even triple the price.

Stay away from the trike drivers. Find out a hotel in the middle of Fields, walk to the mall, walk to bars or if you live close to Perimeter road use your hotel's transporation, some hotels have their own trikes, buses or vans. The alternative is to take a jeepney -- as most it will cost is 8 pesos, a better deal than the 80 or 90 pesos the trike driver wants!

Darth Sushi
06-25-08, 18:11
I am in AC presently -- this is my second trip in a year. Already, the trike drivers have started to get on my nerves. I was in Manilla recently, I took a taxi around town, I was amazzed at how cheap the fare was to go from point A to B. The same distance in AC or shorter a trike driver would want double or even triple the price.

Stay away from the trike drivers. Find out a hotel in the middle of Fields, walk to the mall, walk to bars or if you live close to Perimeter road use your hotel's transporation, some hotels have their own trikes, buses or vans. The alternative is to take a jeepney -- as most it will cost is 8 pesos, a better deal than the 80 or 90 pesos the trike driver wants!
Just watch out for pickpockets on the jeepneys. They usually work in threes. Try sitting on the front seats on the jeeps.

Key Master
06-25-08, 18:12
I'm always amazed when in Angeles to see mainly the bar girls use the trikes and pay their prices. I know some might be getting a free ride pesos wise, but at the same time there are women paying the pesos. I can possibly understand using them late late night or early morning, but when jeepneys are plentiful during the daytime, I just never understood how they are willing to pay a ladydrink at least each trip. Economically it doesn't make sense.

Buko Max
06-25-08, 19:15
I'm always amazed when in Angeles to see mainly the bar girls use the trikes and pay their prices.
I'm sure it is a status thing. Most BG get up to a 50% discount depending.

HornyGeorge
06-25-08, 20:49
I've been warned personally that there is a higher incidence RIGHT NOW at the ST row. This is fact coming from long term residents with unquestioned credibility. There are always anecdotes all over, and your are correct about the frequency of BBFS, but something is going round right now on blow row. The girls are even talking about it. It appears one MF may have spread it to several girls who then pass it on and so on.

FunnyGoLucky
06-25-08, 20:54
I'm always amazed when in Angeles to see mainly the bar girls use the trikes and pay their prices. I know some might be getting a free ride pesos wise, but at the same time there are women paying the pesos. I can possibly understand using them late late night or early morning, but when jeepneys are plentiful during the daytime, I just never understood how they are willing to pay a ladydrink at least each trip. Economically it doesn't make sense.Bargirls it is Easy Comes Easy Go.

Cunning Stunt
06-25-08, 22:27
Just watch out for pickpockets on the jeepneys. They usually work in threes. Try sitting on the front seats on the jeeps.

Yeah I've been 'pocketed twice on jeepneys in the Philippines, once in Manila and once in AC. They are experts at their craft and neither time did I feel the 'lift' although the second time I recognised the distraction technique of one of the trio but by that time it was too late and my wallet had gone. In neither incident did I lose much (never carry much in my wallet on the streets anyway) and in the second incident my otherwise empty wallet only had P200 in it - the team must have been gutted:D.
So if you ride the jeepney in AC, either keep your hand on your wallet, your main money stash secreted elsewhere (I use one the elasticated bandage thingies secured to my lower calf) or as Darth suggest grab the front pews, if free.

Puerto La Cruz
06-26-08, 02:37
I have been out of the USA at least 70 times and never once have I carried a wallet. Why would do that? It has my driver's license, health insurance card, phone numbers of USA snatch, and other IDs.

I sometimes carry a photocopy of my passport, particularly in the Phils and I am always playing "pocket billiards" when I am there. That keeps whatever little money that I carry with me safe. The thieves thieves know what I am doing and so do I.

I take transportation on the safer carriers and wonder why others inquire about 50 peso vs. 70 peso trike rides. Dudes!!!! You are posting about less than 50 cents!!!! I would rather travel safely and secure

I have digressed enough.

PLC f/k/a Slippery

Amavida
06-26-08, 03:49
I see a lot of hand wringing & cursing about these transportation methods & criminal actions in general.
I think its important to apply a little zen to all this instead of getting high blood pressure about it all.
I know jeepney's are not safe for westerners to travel on unaccompanied so I don't do it. I don't fret about it.. its just part of the world I live in.
I know trikes in Angeles are charging P70 for a ride that should be P7 elswhere. I don't use them unless it is convenient. I enjoy walking from fields to the SM Mall or along the streets. I dont get friggin ulcers about it..
I use taxi's in Manila a lot, I know Taxi's occasionally overcharge me there even when I tell them clearly 'I am not a tourist' clearly in Tagalog. I don't fly into a rage about it.. I just take note & avoid them If I see them again.
Native Filippinas get treated like this also, you tourists are not unique, just more likely to be uninformed.
Just keep your eyes & ears open, learn form your experiences, build up a mental map of how to get around without too much hassle & enjoy your stay!

AV

Carmex
06-26-08, 04:32
First time posting, long time reading. Was in AC just last month and am going back next week. Here is what I found:

The place was safe.

I had more sex than I could handle.

Every girl I met just wanted to have fun and fuck.

Every rumour I had ever heard about the PI was true. (and then some)

I met as many non BF girls as I did BF girls.

I haven't fucked that much since I was in High School.

Unfortunetly, after reading these posts I realize the place was not Disneyland and now my reality is shattered. It is kind of a bummer when you learn the truth. Like when you first learn there is no Santa Claus. One girl I hooked up with and exchanged emails just asked me for help (money) because her kids were sick, she was sick, couldn't work, etc. Bummed me out.

Also signed up for filipinaheart.com and now I find out that all those girls are pros and scammers. Even the sweet and innocent looking ones! Right now my buddy just backed out of going back to AC because of funds, but I still have my ticket. I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support.

Thanks

Carmex

Warbucks
06-26-08, 09:29
First time posting, long time reading. Was in AC just last month and am going back next week. Here is what I found:

The place was safe.

I had more sex than I could handle.

Every girl I met just wanted to have fun and fuck.

Every rumour I had ever heard about the PI was true. (and then some)

I met as many non BF girls as I did BF girls.

I haven't fucked that much since I was in High School.

Unfortunetly, after reading these posts I realize the place was not Disneyland and now my reality is shattered. It is kind of a bummer when you learn the truth. Like when you first learn there is no Santa Claus. One girl I hooked up with and exchanged emails just asked me for help (money) because her kids were sick, she was sick, couldn't work, etc. Bummed me out.

Also signed up for filipinaheart.com and now I find out that all those girls are pros and scammers. Even the sweet and innocent looking ones! Right now my buddy just backed out of going back to AC because of funds, but I still have my ticket. I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support.

Thanks

Carmex

I have learned a hard and painful lesson when dealing with Filipinos. Remove all emotion. Go there... fuck and go home. As for sending money...Forget it. The requests will never stop. Don't even start.

Go there... enjoy... go home or like me relocate there but still no emotion. Disney land? It feels that way because these girls need money and you have it. Western countries are Disney land to millionaires and billionaires. Smell what I am cooking?

If you are the marrying type stay away from the bars and look for one who is educated and making her own dough. In most cases her salary will be small compared to western standards and she will still feel as if she has some "debt" to her family but she won't be looking for a handout right way....

About going and or going alone. I have found traveling alone to be great. Last time I went mongering co-workers you had guys talking behind the other guys back. He is in with the "hookers" etc... Guys running out of money, some sad because they are not having any luck with the ladies, whining saying "I don't like paying for it"... ridiculous.

X Man
06-26-08, 09:40
I carry a wallet, but it is an extra and doesn't have any critical cards -- maybe an extra phone load card.

Not carrying a wallet would be too troublesome for me. If you have bills wadded up in your pockets, you'll end up dropping some of those.

Like Gamahucher, lost a wallet on an AC jeepney. We were crammed in tight and the guy to the right of me kept squirming. He couldn't have done it, so I suspect he had an accomplice to the right of him who reached his arm around the back. I was back in action pretty quickly, but I still would rather blow money on women and booze rather than lose it to sleezeballs.

X


I have been out of the USA at least 70 times and never once have I carried a wallet. Why would do that? It has my driver's license, health insurance card, phone numbers of USA snatch, and other IDs.

I sometimes carry a photocopy of my passport, particularly in the Phils and I am always playing "pocket billiards" when I am there. That keeps whatever little money that I carry with me safe. The thieves thieves know what I am doing and so do I.

I take transportation on the safer carriers and wonder why others inquire about 50 peso vs. 70 peso trike rides. Dudes!!!! You are posting about less than 50 cents!!!! I would rather travel safely and secure

I have digressed enough.

PLC f/k/a Slippery

Onkelspitzz
06-26-08, 09:41
Sorry, does anybody knows a location in Angeles to get an erotic-massage (=sexmassage incl. blowjob) like in Thailand?

Onkelpitzz

Mongering1
06-26-08, 15:00
Get a wallet with a chain and tie your cell to your pants. Sure they can cut them but it's one extra step. Keep both on the same side of you and make sure that side is always gaurded by your girl, a buddy, or the back wall of the jeep. I know well over a hundred expats currently living here and have met at least a thousand tourists over the past 6 years and can count on my fingers the bad experiences I've heard first hand, internet doesn't count unless I've met them personally.

As far as seeing girls taking trikes, a lot come from areas not within walking distances to the main roads to take the jeeps, especially if they are dressed for work. The "other" girls you see paying full fair can afford it:Moneykos!

Bud

Towelboy2010
06-26-08, 15:43
Dear Carmex,
I beg to differ. I met online - then in person - a bunch of nice girls on Filipina Heart. You need to find a way to separate the wheat from the chaff. I did this by composing a 7 page letter being very direct about what I was looking for. About 50% of the FH girls either didn't respond or said they are not the girl I am looking for.

Those that responded were genuine.

Of the dozen I met on 4 trips, only 1 was a waste of my time ( and I only let her waste 2 hours till I left)

I have a Fiance visa in the works for a nice lady - 37 yrs old - from Negros Occidental.

Good Luck in whatever you do.




Also signed up for filipinaheart.com and now I find out that all those girls are pros and scammers. Even the sweet and innocent looking ones! Right now my buddy just backed out of going back to AC because of funds, but I still have my ticket. I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support.

Thanks

Carmex

Aussiec
06-26-08, 16:31
I have a friend she used to work in Champayne and is now currently working in Bodyshop. I met her last February 2007 when she was new to he seen (3 weeks). Any way, I have seen her change from shy and not great in bed to "wowowee". She cried when I left that February (the usual) an I saw her in May 2007, August 2007, November 2007, February 2008 and April 2008. We write and we are blatenly honest. She tells me her bf and I tell her mine. She gets jealous but says she would rather know than have one of her girlfriends say they saw me and she not know. She says she has loved me for the past year. But you know what! She has NEVER asked me for moey. Not even hint it. Is this an exception to bar girls. I don't know but when I am there the sex is free and absolutely the best.

HenryV
06-26-08, 20:42
I am somewhat confused about your questions:

"I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support."

AC is for sport fucking. Is that what you want? If you are looking for a wife A/C is not the place. You are far better off checking out the province girls.



First time posting, long time reading. Was in AC just last month and am going back next week. Here is what I found:

The place was safe.

I had more sex than I could handle.

Every girl I met just wanted to have fun and fuck.

Every rumour I had ever heard about the PI was true. (and then some)

I met as many non BF girls as I did BF girls.

I haven't fucked that much since I was in High School.

Unfortunetly, after reading these posts I realize the place was not Disneyland and now my reality is shattered. It is kind of a bummer when you learn the truth. Like when you first learn there is no Santa Claus. One girl I hooked up with and exchanged emails just asked me for help (money) because her kids were sick, she was sick, couldn't work, etc. Bummed me out.

Also signed up for filipinaheart.com and now I find out that all those girls are pros and scammers. Even the sweet and innocent looking ones! Right now my buddy just backed out of going back to AC because of funds, but I still have my ticket. I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support.

Thanks

Carmex

MeLuvULongTime
06-26-08, 21:01
Get a wallet with a chain and tie your cell to your pants. Sure they can cut them but it's one extra step. Keep both on the same side of you and make sure that side is always gaurded by your girl, a buddy, or the back wall of the jeep. I know well over a hundred expats currently living here and have met at least a thousand tourists over the past 6 years and can count on my fingers the bad experiences I've heard first hand, internet doesn't count unless I've met them personally.

As far as seeing girls taking trikes, a lot come from areas not within walking distances to the main roads to take the jeeps, especially if they are dressed for work. The "other" girls you see paying full fair can afford it:Moneykos!

BudGentleman,

I personally leave my wallet in my bags or carry it in my front pocket. I have found money belt useful. Best trick my father taught me was to put a large rubberband around your wallet or wad of bills. The rubber creates friction with your pants and it is not easily slipped out.

Meluvulongtime

Bold Focker
06-26-08, 21:07
If you put your wallet in your front pocket on a jeapney, they will never get it out with your knees tucked up under your chin.

I Also have a special holiday wallet, with a steel ring in that I attach a retractable security pass holder. As perviously stated not 100% proof but another obsticle for them to get over, especially if they don't know it is attached.

Not lost a wallet yet, but I did leave bank card in ATM. Luckily no loss tho!

Hesekiels
06-26-08, 21:51
... Remove all emotion. Go there... fuck and go home. As for sending money...Forget it. The requests will never stop. Don't even start...
Go there... enjoy... go home or like me relocate there but still no emotion...



So very true, D Etat! Especially your point about "requests". There is nothing more to add!


Cheers - Hesekiels

Amavida
06-27-08, 00:08
I have a friend ... She has NEVER asked me for moey. Not even hint it. Is this an exception to bar girls. I don't know but when I am there the sex is free and absolutely the best.Despite the very cynical posts you may see here, I also have some girlfriends who never ask money. These are all non P4P girls.
As for BG's.. they are in that industry because they NEED MONEY not because they like standing there almost naked listening to deafening mind numbing dumf dumf crap music & being indiscriminately fucked by a never ending succession of fat ugly depraved old men.. (Sorry to shatter anyones illusions of any glamour to this flesh trade) Chances of BG's requesting support are much higher than non P4P girls for that reason.
If you have a BG who is doing the 'I love you' routine & not asking support she may really like you & is thinking of you as a long term support (husband)... or maybe she already has a sucker or 3 already sending her money & just enjoys screwing you..
AV

Carmex
06-27-08, 00:25
Thanks guys for the responses. I am the marrying kind. However, I am not above sport fucking. I went to AC because we had a contact there to show us around and tell us what to do. Now I have 3 or 4 different girls on FH that want me to come down to Manila. I am in the Army stationed in Korea, so getting to PI is cheap, but not easy. My command would no way support going there alone. So, if I did, I would be breaking some rules.

My buddy lives in Bangkok, and wants me to come there. Not sure what I am going to do. One thing I know is, I luv PH pussy. Feels good and the chicks are cool.

Warbucks
06-27-08, 04:35
Despite the very cynical posts you may see here, I also have some girlfriends who never ask money. These are all non P4P girls.
As for BG's.. they are in that industry because they NEED MONEY not because they like standing there almost naked listening to deafening mind numbing dumf dumf crap music & being indiscriminately fucked by a never ending succession of fat ugly depraved old men.. (Sorry to shatter anyones illusions of any glamour to this flesh trade) Chances of BG's requesting support are much higher than non P4P girls for that reason.
If you have a BG who is doing the 'I love you' routine & not asking support she may really like you & is thinking of you as a long term support (husband)... or maybe she already has a sucker or 3 already sending her money & just enjoys screwing you..
AV


There it is again. Some guys think they are the only ones who know non-bar girl type in PI or other places.......Moving this to the proper thread... http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1511

Blink157
06-27-08, 05:12
Thanks guys for the responses. I am the marrying kind. However, I am not above sport fucking. I went to AC because we had a contact there to show us around and tell us what to do. Now I have 3 or 4 different girls on FH that want me to come down to Manila. I am in the Army stationed in Korea, so getting to PI is cheap, but not easy. My command would no way support going there alone. So, if I did, I would be breaking some rules.

My buddy lives in Bangkok, and wants me to come there. Not sure what I am going to do. One thing I know is, I luv PH pussy. Feels good and the chicks are cool.
Hi,
I read ur post and have to agree...PI is to dangerous..specially AC..lots of gurls you can bang for small money..cheep beer, good food....dont go there unless you can make ur own decession and dont have to ask evrytime your command what to do :D
If you have a BKK fren go there, many Ladyboys, you will like it :D

Seriosly..BKK is great but its more expensive then AC...it has more things to offer cause AC has just sex :D
If you looking to get married, you need to live with somebody first and see where its going..Geez I dont know why so many guys think, they just go windowshopping and get marry to a gurl they know for 3 hours...

Ok, both places are fun, but dnt make us mongers look bad, we here for the sex, the pussy, cheap beer, good food and fun..I didnt go to the Philippines to get married and specially not to a hooker :)

Blink out

X Man
06-27-08, 05:48
breaking rules? wow, how do they justify that? when i was in the navy -- on a ship operating temporarily out of subic, i actually took leave while i was there in the philippines. that was when the bases were there though.

i know there has been a lot of bad press about us military (the gangbang [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a while back) so maybe they are worried about some kind of retribution...or just trying to keep you guys restricted in order to avoid another incident.

what about filipino-americans in the us military??? surely they can go to the philippines.

tell your command that you have an ex-miltary friend living in the philippines and you plan to visit. i'm sure some of the old ex-grunts and ex-swabbies would be happy to let you call them a "friend" if you buy them a sm.

tickets in bkk are cheap. you might consider a round trip out of bkk to mnl or ceb or dvo. i'm not sure if that solves the problem.

good luck,

x


thanks guys for the responses. i am the marrying kind. however, i am not above sport fucking. i went to ac because we had a contact there to show us around and tell us what to do. now i have 3 or 4 different girls on fh that want me to come down to manila. i am in the army stationed in korea, so getting to pi is cheap, but not easy. my command would no way support going there alone. so, if i did, i would be breaking some rules.

my buddy lives in bangkok, and wants me to come there. not sure what i am going to do. one thing i know is, i luv ph pussy. feels good and the chicks are cool.

Quite Quiet
06-27-08, 06:53
I am in the Army stationed in Korea, so getting to PI is cheap, but not easy. My command would no way support going there alone. So, if I did, I would be breaking some rules.Uhm, No. First. Ask your squad leader to find our from your Plt Sgt what all you need to do. For the most part it will be this: Prep your leave packet, include an address (hotel is fine) where you will stay you should know the drill. You will need a current level 1 anti terrorism cert (you can do it online and print it out), an S1 brief or maybe it was S2 Can't remember. (Usually some bored E4 reading a printout from the State Dept. Website telling you that there are pickpockets and price gouging cabbies in that town. You will have to wait for someone up the chain of command to call the embassy or consulate closest to where you are going to get the political weather report (Catholic part of the country = cool, Muslim part = not so cool). That is about the only thing you will have to worry about. Jeez dude, they let me go to the Chinese Mainland last year by myself and my chain of command and I are damned near at war! Just do as advised and get someone to vouch that you are visiting them. And when you get there stay out of trouble. Use both heads not just the one that dangles, hooah?

Proudpinoy
06-28-08, 05:39
Should be very busy on the 4th of July weekend and a bunch of us will be leaving from Manila to Angeles City for about 3-4 days. For most of us, it's the first time there. Any advice on where to eat, good hotels, things to watch out for? We are all going to look like fish out of water and more than anything, just want to be safe and not get ripped off.

Thanks in advance fellas.

Blink157
06-28-08, 08:46
Should be very busy on the 4th of July weekend and a bunch of us will be leaving from Manila to Angeles City for about 3-4 days. For most of us, it's the first time there. Any advice on where to eat, good hotels, things to watch out for? We are all going to look like fish out of water and more than anything, just want to be safe and not get ripped off.

Thanks in advance fellas.

aside from RTFF here my suggestions

where to stay: Fiesta garden hotel, downtown AC, gud prices, close to the action :D
where to eat: Burgermashine,jolibee, mc donald....plenty there
where to party: ac downtown, many chicks :D, wild and cheap

things to watch out for: if ur butt hurts and ur barfine ask for shavinng foam next morning..be aware and tell him to leave the room discretly..
Dont pay more then 100p for the toothless streethookers, 150p would be a ripp off.

Happy 4th of july

Blink :)

PS Better RTTF

X Man
06-28-08, 15:03
Blink, you ornery old bastrd. What would we do without you!

X


aside from RTFF here my suggestions

where to stay: Fiesta garden hotel, downtown AC, gud prices, close to the action :D
where to eat: Burgermashine,jolibee, mc donald....plenty there
where to party: ac downtown, many chicks :D, wild and cheap

things to watch out for: if ur butt hurts and ur barfine ask for shavinng foam next morning..be aware and tell him to leave the room discretly..
Dont pay more then 100p for the toothless streethookers, 150p would be a ripp off.

Happy 4th of july

Blink :)

PS Better RTTF

Acfreddie
06-28-08, 17:38
should be very busy on the 4th of july weekend and a bunch of us will be leaving from manila to angeles city for about 3-4 days. for most of us, it's the first time there. any advice on where to eat, good hotels, things to watch out for? we are all going to look like fish out of water and more than anything, just want to be safe and not get ripped off.

thanks in advance fellas.hotels:

high end. abc hotel. rooms are about $90 up to $385 pacific breeze. rooms here about $48 to start and jacuzzi rooms at about $90 lewis grand hotel (brand new). rooms between p2, 600(deluxe king) and p12, 200 (presidential suite) www.lewisgrand.com

mid to high end. orange lion hotel. rooms about $50

middle end. phoenix hotel. rooms between $30 and $40 swiss chalet. rooms between $36 and $72(suite) clarkton. rooms betweeen p1, 500 basic and p3, 900(suite)

low end. hotel hana. rooms between p995 (basic) to p2, 300 (family suite)

food:

kokomo's. located on fields ave

margarita station (the ville). located on fields ave, near the checkpoint end of fields)

azurro (sp? ) restaurant. located on fields, above the lancelot bar, across from la bamba/rhapsody bar. good place for steaks and italian type foods and also italian style pizza

c' italian dinning. located on perimeter road, one of the best restaurants in town (if not the best), expensive, but quality food

things to watch out for:

**** girls! do not pick up freelancers in ac, there have been numerous scams (planned together with "authorities") in which case you can expect to pay anywhere between p50, 000 and p200, 000 to have no "complainant" (meaning that the persons who set you up will not file charges for a "fee".

take girls out from the bars, the cost is generally p1300-1400 on/in fields bars and p1200 on/in perimeter bars. note the exception is at the dollhouse group of bars, where they have a tiered system in place, you could (and likely will if you take girls out based on looks, like stunner's) pay p3, 000 for those "showgirl" girls.

change money during daylight hours at moneychangers and not at your hotel, the hotels offer a horrific rate. how do you tell the moneychangers, there are many of them on fields ave, they have signs displaying their current exchange rates (i also recommend norma's, just ask any foreigner for directions and someone will tell you, but its easiest on fields).

do not change money if there are many local (filipino) males around that area, this is just a safety precaution to take as in the past there have been problems.

what to do (other than girls). usually not much, but on the 4th, they are having a pool party at the lewis grand hotel (from 12noon to 4pm)- the costs are (i think) p1, 000 for all you drink (local drinks) and free food and p1, 500 (imported drinks) and (p500 or p750 for a girls ticket).

as for fireworks, just try to hang around the fields ave area and you should be able to see them from the street or you can try to get information about specific places once you are in ac, as things change and are frequently announced at the last minute.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

HornyGeorge
06-28-08, 19:07
contrary to the statement catholic areas=ok, muslim=not ok, most muslim areas are no problem at all. most of mindanao is fine, safer than angeles or manila really. crime, **** scams, gangs of trike drivers with weapons are all bigger risks than terrorism. the armm and sulu don't have much (any?) in the way of mongering options anyway.

the worst crime is always in catholic areas (namely in and around manila squatter camps). in terms of terror groups, neither npa nor mnlf are a threat; only abu sayyaf has targeted white foreigners, and that was one very publicized incident more than 5 years ago. yes they have kidnapped a few rich chinese filipinos recently, but that was in manila! don't let fearmongering prevent you from seeing the real beauty of the philippines.

those who are paralyzed with fear should just stay home.

Warbucks
06-29-08, 03:55
Should be very busy on the 4th of July weekend and a bunch of us will be leaving from Manila to Angeles City for about 3-4 days. For most of us, it's the first time there. Any advice on where to eat, good hotels, things to watch out for? We are all going to look like fish out of water and more than anything, just want to be safe and not get ripped off.

Thanks in advance fellas.

Too many places to eat in SM mall. Good hotels ABC, Wild Orchid. I only stay at the Wild Orchid will try the ABC on my next visit. They are expensive but I am a snob when it comes to my lodging.

Get ripped off...hmmm. The only way I can see that happening is overcharging for trikes and barfines and tips but its relative little money.

Safety just dont't make yourself a target. I love wearing diamonds but when in PI I leave the watch at home and just keep the earring even that got to much damn attention. I had local guys just standing staring my ear.

You have the leg up you are a Pinoy...

Take It Sleazy

Carmex
06-29-08, 03:58
Hi All,

Phew! This site is soooo full of information. Wish I access at work! But then, I would absolutely get no work done. Heading down to PH for the long weekend from Korea. 2nd will be in Manila for one night maybe two, and then head to Angeles for the 4th and maybe another night, then to Cebu to meet a "Virgin" I met on the internet. Last time I was in Angeles was one for the record books, so I now have begun training. Funny, you would think being in the Army, I would be working out to improve my PT score, but alas, it is for sport fucking. Question, does anyone know "jean" from the Nasty Duck? I want to hook up with her again, very nice GFE. Don't know if I should buy a triband phone down there or not. Maybe in Manila. Happy Mongering to all of you.

C.

Carmex
06-29-08, 06:57
Thanks again guys,

I really enjoy reading your posts. Hmmm, as for the Army thing, I am a senior officer, so I can pretty much do what I want. Except, if something happens down in AC, then I am toast.command likes nothing better over here in Korea than to burn people.

As for the contacts, yea I know several ex pats that I can use. All retired military that keep a lookout for me. As for the girls, all I can say is WOW!

Bars I enjoyed were, Viper Room, Nasty Duck, and some others I can't remember. One night, the 4 guys in my party each BF three girls each! I only brought one home, but eventually everyone was naked in my room and had a BF girl video the whole thing. We all ended up in the pool for more naked time. Wish I had that video. Anyway, mind is pretty made up, going to Manila for July 2nd maybe 3rd, then AC for the 4-6, and then down to Davao for 7-8.

When you guys go back do you ever get the same pussy or do you go for new stuff? I've read AC is small and there is no secrets so, are the girls cool with butterflying? My thought is, "if the pussy's good, then why not go back? " I don't know. I am excited though.

Happy 4th everyone.

C.

Blink157
06-29-08, 08:36
hi to all,

ouch X men that hurts :D

ok some more usefull news to those guys intersted to date hotel staff from central park and/or Pacific breeze..

PB told me they have a dance/singing and what so ever contest/show on friday 4th of July in PB at the pool.. SO thats a chance to get know the gurls better. I saw the fotos of their last party....;-)

Now some sad news for the more frequent visitors to angels city..

maybe you guys rember the old Lady with grey hair who selling flowers on the street ??? She passed away last week, having a heart attack.. the more frequent visitors to ac know bout which flowervendor Im talking about...

Happy sunday to all.....germany will be playing laters and I guess I will watch that game in one of those german owned bars with big screen....next to Atlantis..hint ;-) which will answers the question to the german and spain mongers where to watch the game


Blink out

Munich1976
06-29-08, 09:55
June to October? I think in high season the ladies will demand more money than in rain season.

Hesekiels
06-29-08, 22:22
June to October? I think in high season the ladies will demand more money than in rain season.

Hi Munich,

interesting, but are you really sure? Do they have nowadays different prices for high and low season? Or are you just referring to their 'taxi money'?


Cheers - Hesekiels

Quite Quiet
06-30-08, 07:48
contrary to the statement catholic areas=ok, muslim=not ok, most muslim areas are no problem at all. most of mindanao is fine, safer than angeles or manila really. crime, **** scams, gangs of trike drivers with weapons are all bigger risks than terrorism. the armm and sulu don't have much (any?) in the way of mongering options anyway.

the worst crime is always in catholic areas (namely in and around manila squatter camps). in terms of terror groups, neither npa nor mnlf are a threat; only abu sayyaf has targeted white foreigners, and that was one very publicized incident more than 5 years ago. yes they have kidnapped a few rich chinese filipinos recently, but that was in manila! don't let fearmongering prevent you from seeing the real beauty of the philippines.

those who are paralyzed with fear should just stay home.i know that, you know that. now you need to tell the army and the state dept. people who give paranoid anti-terrorism briefings to soldiers vacationing overseas. i was told that while i was in china i should try to "blend in" and not look "too american" i am a little over 6' with light brown hair and blue eyes. never did get clarification on how to "blend" with the locals.

i actually have no problems in the philippines other than occasional petty theft and one unfortunate fender bender that cost me about 2700p. can't wait to retire so i can stop visiting and settle down. beats the hell out of bouncing around a desert for a year at a time.

Blackangst
06-30-08, 17:37
Hi Munich,

interesting, but are you really sure? Do they have nowadays different prices for high and low season? Or are you just referring to their 'taxi money'?


Cheers - Hesekiels

Nope same price all year, just selection is smaller in low season, but so are visitors. A lot of bars run specials for LD, drinks, food, etc but BF don't change.

Munich1976
06-30-08, 19:13
Unfortunately, I've never been to AC yet, but in Pattaya (Thailand) ladies charge more in December/January than in low season.

Hesekiels
06-30-08, 19:35
Nope same price all year, just selection is smaller in low season, but so are visitors. A lot of bars run specials for LD, drinks, food, etc but BF don't change.


Thanks for the update, Blackangst! I will be back in two weeks time and if somebody is around then simply pm me. The first round SM is on my account! :)


Cheers - Hesekiels

Ace of Spades
06-30-08, 20:46
I am in AC.

Recently I offered a bar girl a way out of the bar. We have known each other for a year over two visits. My offer was 8000 pesos a month for her to stay home and look after her family (she has an elderly mother and a school aged daughter). Apparently, she has been in the business for 7 years. I found her to be nice and very sweet. Her looks were not that great, but for me her heart stood out.

Recently the girl has vanished, something totally out of character because she been VERY consistent/reliable to date. Last we spoke she was supposed to speak to her Mamasun about leaving the bar to go back to the province and to collect her final pay. This of course was her cover to stay with me.

I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.

Key Master
07-01-08, 03:22
I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.

Sorry to hear, but probably better that way. You'll probably hear from her in time, but there is probably a lot more going behind the scenes you'll never know about unless you somehow run into it. You won't hear it from her most likely. My recommendation is even if she contacts you again and she probably will, rescind the offer. Got to remember where you are and who they are. You want to believe in people, but when we are in that scene, we are already behind the 8 ball and that's a tough place to be.

Acqua
07-01-08, 03:37
I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.Ace, I sympathize as I have been through a similar situation recently. Girl who never bs'ed me and was brutally honest with me for over 18 months suddenly began lying about everything after I made the offer. As soon as I got home, she had changed her tune to I fucked up, I love you, I accept, etc. Face it-no point in going down that road (whether to with any girl is open for debate) with anyone who gives you any reason to be suspicious. She has her own reasons which you may never understand. Find another one and move on. If you really want to get a response, make sure her friends or mamasan sees you with another girl and your phone will soon be blowing up with texts from her.

Warbucks
07-01-08, 04:13
I am in AC.

Recently I offered a bar girl a way out of the bar. We have known each other for a year over two visits. My offer was 8000 pesos a month for her to stay home and look after her family (she has an elderly mother and a school aged daughter). Apparently, she has been in the business for 7 years. I found her to be nice and very sweet. Her looks were not that great, but for me her heart stood out.

Recently the girl has vanished, something totally out of character because she been VERY consistent/reliable to date. Last we spoke she was supposed to speak to her Mamasun about leaving the bar to go back to the province and to collect her final pay. This of course was her cover to stay with me.

I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.

Man why do you want to get involved with a bar girl? PI is perhaps the easiest place to meet ladies who never worked in that trade.

Figures
07-01-08, 04:51
Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.

AussieOverboard
07-01-08, 06:52
Ace,

I have been mongering for over 20 years now in the US, Australia and most recently in PI.

Though i have complete respect for the girls you have to remember what they do for a living. In my experience and i am sure others will disagree the girls we deal with are not the same as a "regular" girl.

You will never get a true relationship with one and believe me I have tried.

Fifty Fifty
07-01-08, 07:07
Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.You dont say where in US you are flying from, but if you can fly to BKK cheap, then why not go via there and do BKK - MNL on PAL or another local carrier to save a bit?? Plenty of regular flights too.

Shoe sizes = small, usually around 34-36 average but some go much lower. There are plenty of reasonable quality ''very high heels'' to be purchased in most big Malls at incredibly low prices - much cheaper than getting them in the US and probably more variety. Take your girl ''shopping for shoes'' she will love you long time ;)

As for your fetish, I like heels too, but size 46 are getting difficult to find :D

Cheers, F/Fifty

Superman79
07-01-08, 09:06
I'm thinking about going to Angeles City during September. From doing research, I see that it is Typhoon season. Should I be worried about this? I don't mind a little rain but don't want to be swept away in a typhoon.

Warbucks
07-01-08, 09:15
Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.

Man shop around. Check airline consolidator, expedia, orbitz and Travelocity. $1700 that’s a little steep I am sure you can find something cheaper then that.

Blink157
07-01-08, 11:00
I am in AC.

Recently I offered a bar girl a way out of the bar. We have known each other for a year over two visits. My offer was 8000 pesos a month for her to stay home and look after her family (she has an elderly mother and a school aged daughter). Apparently, she has been in the business for 7 years. I found her to be nice and very sweet. Her looks were not that great, but for me her heart stood out.

Recently the girl has vanished, something totally out of character because she been VERY consistent/reliable to date. Last we spoke she was supposed to speak to her Mamasun about leaving the bar to go back to the province and to collect her final pay. This of course was her cover to stay with me.

I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.

Hi,
just at the office, reading your post and doing some paperwork :D...

Just some questions for you for answering urself..

First, why in the world you want to support somebody you dont live with permantly, why you want to support a hooker (excuse me, a bargurl is a hooker, she screws men for money..)do you love her? You want her to follow you into your own country?
I do not want to flame you, but just get realistic, we all have to.., open your eyes. Your in Ac, hooker-men-dream-city and you should enjoy it. DOnt get serious to the bargurls, DONT GET SERIOUS >TO any gURLS in ANgeles city...They all know the game and we foreigners have an excellent reputation to the "local nonworking bargurls" means, those who have a job...which means we dont have any :D, we sexmaniacs..bola2, only want sex, bla bla bla.....so forget AC gurls, FFF and then move on to the next...
Im there evry weekend and you know what IM allready bored...I have some steady GF I met up with and just go barhop for fun...I dont found any hooker I was able to hook up with more then a week, then its bored, why is that?? Sex aint evrything and mostly but likely there aint much brain in their little heads..so I just enjoying it, but if I loook for a talk , I go to a pub and talk with some expats or with my friends...If you really looking for somebody serious to be with, you should hook up with some working gurls..Just go to a mall..start with deprtmentstore gurls and then work urself up to those who are in a Management position LOL.....ok....my last comment was a joke, but I guess you get me ;-)

So, you allready made a decession , you pissed and you cut her lose. Stick to that what your instincts telling you, most of that is true :)

Enjoy Angeles city

Blink

Fast Eddie 48
07-01-08, 16:52
Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.Figure,

You should go to the travel plan forum to post this.

Try cheap ticket.

The fare is high.

Next month is high season and the Bejing 2008 games, but you should get ticket round trip from US for about 1400 USD flying coach with PAL.

Fast eddie 48

Aussiec
07-01-08, 18:23
Blink is right on target. You may have seen my reportabout week ago. I have girl I give no money to but yet everytime I am there we friends and she blows my mind away. Yup we talk about getting together but lets face it. She is a ***** and I am a *****. When you understand this then maybe you can be together. Now the double standard. Of course I not want to share my love who is a ***** with anyone. So once you understand the game then you will get it.

Somethings to think about and what I have seen. Even families in on the get guys to support us. Are you sure she not have Pinoy hubby. You be surprise even knowing her a whole year what she not tell you. After all she just has to protect her secret for a week or two when you are there every so often. These girls are very good at showing deep emotion. This is my thought on your situation and I am just guessing. I think girl has good intention with you. I think also that these girls get caught up in knowing this one thing they ever known and that is sex, bar hop, sleep, eat. And fuck again. Its kinda like the woman in abusive relationship. She would rather be in situation she is familar with than get out into the unfamilararity.

With saying that. If you want to meet nice girl. Go to Province and meet nice cherry girl and she will cling onto you for life. I GUARENTEE THAT! SHE WILL feed you, cut your nails, treat you like a king. Besides that you can train her to be your own personal ***** to beckon all your needs. If you want wife this is best suggestion. If you prefer variety and fun. Then join the rest of us *****s in A. C. Cuz we play well!

Tacamoherc
07-01-08, 23:06
Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.I am going to Manila In early September and got a flight from Portland to San Francisco then Manila for $1086. 42. I just went through an agent and let her do all the work for me, it is on United then Philippine Air, same for return flight.

The shoes I would wait till there, alot of places make and sell shoes that are nice plus sexy. Yow would probably save money and have your girl be extra nice after the shopping.

Good luck in your hunt for the airfare!

Ace of Spades
07-02-08, 05:29
Thanks for all the good advice.

I am going to hit the provinces. and get as far as away as possible from AC. AC is ok to just get laid - but a descent girl seems hard to find.

We as bar men will probably never understand filipina bar girl mentality. I know for sure it cannot always be about money. These girls have such F*** UP emotions because of life experiance that it seems to impair their better judgement even when an oppourtunity is to their advantage. Committment seems to scare them off!

For example, I offered the girl in question 8000 pesos a month, but also I offered to take her to my country so she could find a real job. For that amount of money, she would not have to fuck strange men every night, she would be a respectable woman once again looking after her family. Who in their right mind would turn that down?

My conclusion is:

Either she is totally stupid and goofed up.

OR


Has a pinoy boyfriend and/or some bar guy who already financial supporting her.

Vittu
07-02-08, 05:40
There is a third possible explanation that I kind of hate to raise:
That even in her emotionally fucked up state she has concluded she has no future with you.
Just a possibility.

Acqua
07-02-08, 06:02
Ace, just curious as you say you are in AC now, but have you gone in to her bar to see if she is there? Rather than wonder what happened, just swallow your pride and go find out what happened.

A possibility that nobody else mentioned, but you said that she was going to talk to the mamasan about leaving. Never underestimate the pull mamasan has with the girls especially if as you say she has been in AC for 7 years. The mamasan may have her own agenda as if the girl leaves, mamasan is losing money. If she is working in a smaller bar with only a few girls then mamasan probably put an even bigger guilt trip on her.

I was in AC a few weeks ago and my barfine one night got drunk and started bitching about how much her life sucked, what assholes most of the guys who bf'ed her were, etc. In the middle of her crying spree, she did however say something profound-"I knew when I came to AC not to bring my heart". Good advice for everyone

Aussiec
07-02-08, 07:49
If you knew the amount of guys that promise a girl the world and only go back to country and forget them you would understand how some feel. They call it 'bola bola". Soo you see go to province meet that cherry girl and make her yours. Have the dream life of wife kid 2 car garage and don't forget the white picket fence. Leave us shallow party animals to to say. Hmmm one day I just may have the life ace has. On second thought. Who do I screw tonight. Lolipop, Champayne, Dollhouse, Neros, T. I. , Dirty Duck and the list goes on and on. Hmmm isn't life not being tied down wonderful.

Bob Down
07-02-08, 09:56
I have a girl in AC that I have maintain contact with for about two years now. We have always maintained they we are just friends and it wasn't until my last trip that anything ever happened between us.

It was about a month before I was due to arrive in AC (April this year) that she decided to tell me she was inlove with me. I have always told her that she is not the one for me, she even knew about my other girls else where. After telling me how she loves me, out came all the lies she had been feeding me since we first meet, along with the emotional games that go with it. I almost got sucked in with the games. Now it's just water of a ducks back.


We still maintain contact, I even ask if we should stop talking but she says she can not help needing to chat to me. Although she still loves me she has softened, she gave me a new name last week. Fubu ( fuck buddy). I think I joking told her a couple of weeks ago she was just a fuck buddy and she is now throwing it back at me.

She never asks for money, just found out last night that the two nights she took leave from the bar to stay with me, papasan found out why she was on leave and fined her. She did not even ask for me to cover the fine for her.

I have hurt her feelings a number of times but she keeps coming back for more. I have never promised her the world, and I have never lied to her even though she says I bola bola.

For me she is alot of fun to be with, when she is not playing emotional games. The only thing I ever give her is food, drink and smokes. I am not sure how things will go on my next trip, as she wants to watch me fuck two girls and I believe she already has two girls in mind. But that could still be more bullshit.

This is for ACE, my girl tells me she has married off five girls in the bar, so there's still hope. I know of girls that have left the bars to study, either high school or college with the help of their new boyfriends. In saying that, good luck finding a good one.

AsiaTraveler2
07-02-08, 10:48
Unfortunately, I've never been to AC yet, but in Pattaya (Thailand) ladies charge more in December/January than in low season.

Munich1976,

The system in AC is not at all like Thailand. In AC, it's strictly a barfine system and that covers it. Yes, guys occassionally tip, but it's not really expected. The barfines stay the same year round, so there's no high season or low season pricing in that regard. The problem with the flat barfine system, is that the YMMV issues go through the roof. Some girls flake out right after you leave the bar. The upside is if you do get a good one, it's hard to beat the price at 1,200 Pesos for an all nighter.

Good luck!
AT2

Psdai
07-02-08, 12:02
For example, I offered the girl in question 8000 pesos a month...Not to be the lone voice of disagreement with you and the others, but to be honest most chicks wokring in the bars make more than peso 8,000 a month unless they are ugly or fat. So I ask why would she stop working for something that is less than she is used to making. Most girls get into that line of work to support their baby or other family members and those family members will still continue to beg for cash support regardless of where she is working so taking less cash just to get out of that line of work isn't realy an option for many of them.

I do agree though that she probally has someone else taking care of her or a boyfriend. If there is one thing I have learned over 39 years of association with the Philippines is that the women always have a "Plan B" in case thing don't work out with their primary plan. You were probally a plan b.

Ace of Spades
07-02-08, 15:30
I will keep the bar nameless.

The girl in question works at a smaller bar -- is one of the most popular girls and does earn a fair bit for the bar, despite her age 35 years old and number of years in the bar. Last week, the Mamasan had warned the girl not to spend too much time with me, strange huh? But this was before the girl indicated her decision to leave.

Most likely, the Mamasan who likes to bully girls likely said or did something to discourage the girl from leaving the bar. The girl became afraid hence she disappeared.

I have no plans on returning to the bar -- I would be unwelcome.

X Man
07-02-08, 15:50
I'm sure Bob has already considered this, but this is also an indirect way to ask for money. I suspect a lot of guys, after hearing the story, would refund the woman the money she was fined. I know I have once.

But you have to wonder -- was she really fined like she said she was?

X




She never asks for money, just found out last night that the two nights she took leave from the bar to stay with me, papasan found out why she was on leave and fined her. She did not even ask for me to cover the fine for her.

HenryV
07-02-08, 15:52
Insomnia is home to the bully you speak of.

This Mamasan, despite all the buisness I once brought there, managed to such the fun out of any semblance of a good time I ever tried to have in that bar.


I will keep the bar nameless.

The girl in question works at a smaller bar -- is one of the most popular girls and does earn a fair bit for the bar, despite her age 35 years old and number of years in the bar. Last week, the Mamasan had warned the girl not to spend too much time with me, strange huh? But this was before the girl indicated her decision to leave.

Most likely, the Mamasan who likes to bully girls likely said or did something to discourage the girl from leaving the bar. The girl became afraid hence she disappeared.

I have no plans on returning to the bar -- I would be unwelcome.

X Man
07-02-08, 15:56
Fourth possibilty:

Someone paid a one week barfine to go to Borocay. Look out for the tan lines, and a damn good excuse, when she resurfaces.

Ace, lots of decent women out there. Get out to the provinces and enjoy yourself. I'll be looking forward to your next reports.

X




There is a third possible explanation that I kind of hate to raise:
That even in her emotionally fucked up state she has concluded she has no future with you.
Just a possibility.

X Man
07-02-08, 16:38
Name and examples of bullying behavior please!

I try to talk to most mamasans as little as possible. I'm especially annoyed by the type who start the conversation by saying, "Which one?"

Of course it's best to be polite because if she gets bad vibes she'll give you the thumbs down to the female staff and you may as well avoid that bar for the rest of your trip. Unless of course the female staff hate her, in which case you might become more attractive.

On the other hand, if you're too nice, she'll be asking for her drink in no time at all.

If I see a mamasan having friendly conversations with the staff, see the dancers / staff approaching her, touching her (nothing sexual here, if you've been to Phil., you know what I mean), then I know this is probably a good mamasan and I'll make more efforts to get to know her.

Any nominations for best Mamasan in AC?

X







Insomnia is home to the bully you speak of.

This Mamasan, despite all the buisness I once brought there, managed to such the fun out of any semblance of a good time I ever tried to have in that bar.

Hesekiels
07-02-08, 19:20
I will keep the bar nameless ... -- I would be unwelcome.


AoS:

I cannot imagine that! As long as you pay some drinks you are always welcome! You are the customer and money talks! IMHO of course!


Cheers - Hesekiels

Aussiec
07-03-08, 06:34
Well I have to give my top mamasan report to "Baby Momma" of "Touch of Class" down on Perimeter Road. She has good relationship with the girls and very honest in putting you with the right girl in the needs you want. Very friendly, not pressured and in a way she is careful with her girls and at the same time makes sure you come back smiling looking for more.

Bob Down
07-03-08, 09:17
X,

Here is part of the chat I had with my girl the other day, note I did change the names. Also it has been 2 1/2 months since I was in AC, you would have thought she was have brought the subject about fines up well before now.

girl: just tell me wen ur plan to come here in ac so i can tell to **** (owner)
Bob: why u want to tell owner when I arrive
girl: coz f ur here i not work so u wont pay me barfine
Bob: ok
girl: i just tell him i leave for 1 day so he wont think i go sneak out
Bob: what u say to him
girl: my friend invite me to go dinner.. coz he know i dont have bf.... its ok to leave if the man is my bf
girl: n he know that i just broke up with my bf b4.., everybody in the bar they allow to leave without paying barfine if they have only 1bf
Bob: but not same for all bar is it
girl: all the bar is same policy
Bob: ok
girl: remember in bar
girl: i leave 2days in i say i meet a friend
girl: **** (friend A) come to the bar with **** (friend B) looking for me...
girl: but they know wer im n hus with me
girl: daddy fine me 2days barshare
Bob: why u not tell me before
girl: its ok

I don't know if what she says is true or not, but I did find it interesting.

Blink157
07-03-08, 10:30
X,

Here is part of the chat I had with my girl the other day, note I did change the names. Also it has been 2 1/2 months since I was in AC, you would have thought she was have brought the subject about fines up well before now.

girl: just tell me wen ur plan to come here in ac so i can tell to **** (owner)
Bob: why u want to tell owner when I arrive
girl: coz f ur here i not work so u wont pay me barfine
Bob: ok
girl: i just tell him i leave for 1 day so he wont think i go sneak out
Bob: what u say to him
girl: my friend invite me to go dinner.. coz he know i dont have bf.... its ok to leave if the man is my bf
girl: n he know that i just broke up with my bf b4.., everybody in the bar they allow to leave without paying barfine if they have only 1bf
Bob: but not same for all bar is it
girl: all the bar is same policy
Bob: ok
girl: remember in bar
girl: i leave 2days in i say i meet a friend
girl: **** (friend A) come to the bar with **** (friend B) looking for me...
girl: but they know wer im n hus with me
girl: daddy fine me 2days barshare
Bob: why u not tell me before
girl: its ok

I don't know if what she says is true or not, but I did find it interesting.

I dont understand at all what she says :D Can you translate it into english??

Your a brave man, I would turn off ym allready after the 2nd line :D

Blink

BlakTea
07-03-08, 14:08
Gents (and maybe ladies)

I find myself with a months vacation starting immediately and I've decided on the philippines and in particular AC. While searching the net and reading many of the AC posts,I notice the following:

1) No real commentary on things to do during the day. what do you guys do during the day?

2) Also I like to stay in shape and again very little on hotel gyms, are there any?

3) I dont hear many positive comments on Manila, is it worth a visit as the capital or should I give it a miss?

4) Is a whole month too long to stay in AC? taking into consideration 2.) above?

5) And finally what would you do with a month in the philippines?

Blaktea

P.s Be careful with your posts, I will act on them!

HenryV
07-03-08, 15:56
Drinks notwithstanding, I wish it were so.

Some people just have a mean streak in them.

X Man made me think about something I had noticed, but could not put my finger on. When I did go to Insomnia it always seemed the girls went out of there way to be freindly to me, especially when the Mamasan was around.




AoS:

I cannot imagine that! As long as you pay some drinks you are always welcome! You are the customer and money talks! IMHO of course!


Cheers - Hesekiels

Acqua
07-04-08, 00:42
1. Drink and get in a parting shot with the previous nights bf or a txt date. Begin new search for Ms Right Now.

2. Some of the higher end hotels do have a small gym. There is also a gym further out Perimeter which you can join on a short term basis.

3. To each there own-depends on much you like smog, expensive prices, and traffic. Some love Manila, some hate it. Personally, the only time I spend in Manila anymore is the time between landing at NAIA and hitting the tollway and then the reverse for the trip home. If you haven't been there before, maybe spend 2-3 days there

4. You will most likely get tired of AC (gasp-odd but true) after a few weeks. You can only do so much drinking and fucking before it becomes repetitive. Why not plan on staying in AC two weeks, then figure out your favorite and most attentive bf of the trip, make a deal with the papasan and take her to Boracay for a week. After that maybe Cebu for another week. 99. 99% of the bargirls would jump at that offer.

5. See # 4 above. A month in the Phils assuming you are not on a strict budget will be something you will never forget. You will not want to come back to "civilization"


Gents (and maybe ladies)

1) No real commentary on things to do during the day. What do you guys do during the day?

2) Also I like to stay in shape and again very little on hotel gyms, are there any?

3) I don't hear many positive comments on Manila, is it worth a visit as the capital or should I give it a miss?

4) Is a whole month too long to stay in AC? Taking into consideration 2.) above?

5) And finally what would you do with a month in the Philippines?

Blaktea

P. S Be careful with your posts, I will act on them!

Aussiec
07-04-08, 01:29
I guess the authorities are once again flexing some mucsle. My contant has informed me that AGASYA Bar was raided along with the usual Bedrock and few others. Anyone there no anything about this?

Aussiec
07-04-08, 01:45
Well AC has only one thing other wise nothing else. Sure you can take a tour to see mount P. Or maybe side trip to Subic. But why a whole month in one place escapes me. You may find a girl you really like and take her to Barocay, Cebu, but leave yourself flexable and not stay in one place. Yes Manila is not great. Yes Pleasure everywhere and massage places, bars, clubs and more excitement. But more money. It is well known that one night of pleasure in manila is the cost equal to 3 nights in a. C. Bar fines are triple in manila. Drinks more, lodging more. However having said all this I would suggest 2 nights in manila when you get there. Good affordable Hotel I like is Maramar Hotel, Aloha Hotel or Executive Plaza. All are in the entertainment area. If you want right in middle of excitement then Oxford Suites in bar area of makati is good but again pricier. Side trips from AC for few days are not to bad. I suggest Cubu, baracay, and maybe if you want a little cooler weather head for Baguio City. Enjoy if this is your first trip. Keep your mind aware of your surroundings. Remember you are a target cuz your a foriegner and to them you are money man. Girls know this, taxi know this, hotels know this. And con men on street know this. Stay in areas that tourist are in. Learn from the board how much it cost to get somewhere cuz if you not know you will be taken for. #1 suggestion. Act like you been there before. Act like a newbie and newbie will be taken for money ride. If you have question (s) ask some of the regulars on this board. We all had our first trip way back when.

Good Luck

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Blink157
07-04-08, 04:13
Gents (and maybe ladies)

I find myself with a months vacation starting immediately and I've decided on the philippines and in particular AC. While searching the net and reading many of the AC posts,I notice the following:

1) No real commentary on things to do during the day. what do you guys do during the day?

2) Also I like to stay in shape and again very little on hotel gyms, are there any?

3) I dont hear many positive comments on Manila, is it worth a visit as the capital or should I give it a miss?

4) Is a whole month too long to stay in AC? taking into consideration 2.) above?

5) And finally what would you do with a month in the philippines?

Blaktea

P.s Be careful with your posts, I will act on them!


Hi,
as for the gents speaking I assume you arrive on Nia..what time?? Well, after a long flight I recommend you stay first in a nice hotel and get adjusted to the weather here...Its not so hot now, cause its the rainy season, but it could also get quite hot sometimes.

For the first night I recommend to give Manila a try...If you take a cab its about 25 minutes from airport, depends on the traffic..A quite good and quiet hotel is Bayviewpark , facing Manila bay, best rates you get at asiatravel.com.

The good thing about bayview is, you just walk around the corner and you at Swagman hotel, where you can take fly the bus to angeles city..or just pass Swagmann , walk straight and turn left on 7/11 and go to souther star and take their Bus, its newer, the only donwturn is, swagman have 3 departures (11.30am, 3.30pm and 8.30pm)a day and southern just one(3.30pm), if Im not mistaken..

When staying in Manila, try LA cafe...enough info here just RTTF. Take any decent cab from there (decent means turn on the f..n meter) and tell him to go to Edsa entertainment complex Pasay..maybe 10 minutes from LA..Take a look there..Many bars inside..plenty of info here so, RTTF :D

if you into massage try Airforce one on pasay road..its near the airport or go to Don pedro massage in Makati (see my post).

I suggest after one night in Manila you take fly the bus to Angels city..where to stay look up on balibago.com...many hotels there...many info here also , RTTF :D

Ac has many bars, is cheaper and food is much better, better value for money..Now, withthe new superhi way from AC to Subic, you can get there easily and without any hassle. Just take fly the bus around 9.30 am or what I recomand take Southern star (new bus) around 8.45 am from orchid inn resort. price is around 400p if im not mistaken..

Subic has a beach, less nightlife as AC, but it has a beach :D, so either you bring ur honey ko to subic or u go there alone, after some hard drinkin nights in AC..plenty places to stay..cheap or upscale (wild orchid subic 3000p)

I go to ac evry weekend , so its ok, a week is also ok, two weeks also LOL, depends how much u can drink and how long you like to party..AC has not much to offer. they have some malls, but not a big as in manila or makati. You can watch a movie, enjoy some good coffee, take ur honey ko shopping.

AC has some good hotels with decent swimming pool, best of all in my opinion has wild orchid..you can allways use the pools, some hotel charge for that, some not, depends if u bring ur own 7/11 san migule beer with you ehehehe..

AC has also an airport. From Clark you can take a plane to many destinations in the Philippines. I recomand you fly when there is no TYPHOON around..its not so funny to fly into a typhoon..

So, to answer your questions, I cant..you have to try it out and then see for urself if its ok for you or if you bored about all the bargurls there who just want sex sex sex :D

Have a nice day

Blink

Rob Woodrow
07-04-08, 05:49
It's true that AC is short on daytime activities. I'm generally only there for a week, so it never becomes an issue for me; I just barhop or play pool or swim or screw my previous night's BF again.

Other options:

1) Spend some time in Subic, Cebu, Boracay, Baguio, or elsewhere. Read up on the PI on wikitravel or something and find out where you want to go. Depends on what you like to do.

2) Take a girl on vacation! I'm sure you can find a girl you like who would love to go to any or all of the above places with you. You'll have a harder time getting rid of her after than you will have getting her to go in the first place. Just find one you have some chemistry with, and pay her barfine for a few consecutive days. Find out what her off day is to make sure you don't pay the barfine on that day. If you don't want or can't afford to take one on a long trip, take one to Subic for a few days. The bus is probably 400-500 pesos each. Hotels are priced similarly to AC. Hit the beach a few days, come back, "divorce", find another girl, repeat.

3) Go to the mall, see a movie.

4) Diving is available in nearby Subic. If you're not certified, you can probably get certified and fill some afternoons.

5) If your hotel has a pool, there you go. You'll have lots of girls asking to come swimming.

When I'm surrounded by these girls, I always manage to find something to do.


1) No real commentary on things to do during the day. what do you guys do during the day?

Blink157
07-04-08, 08:42
Hi guys,

agassya and vegas got raid last night....well, what can I say..that makes me quite sad :D


More info later on that :)

Happy weekend to all

Blink

Bob Down
07-04-08, 08:47
I dont understand at all what she says :D Can you translate it into english??

Your a brave man, I would turn off ym allready after the 2nd line :D

Blink

Ok Blink, in english just for you.

Last time I was in AC she took two night off to spend with me, told daddy she had a friend visiting.

If a girl in the bar has one and only one boyfriend, he doesn't have to pay her barfine every night. But as I am not her boyfriend I would have to pay to take her out.

I am wondering about your girlfriend and long time barfine in AC. Are you still paying the bar to take her out? or will mamasan let her leave as she is your girlfriend.

I have read about long term barfines, but you have to pay xxx amount up front before the girl is free to take out of the bar at anytime. Is this what you did?

Blink157
07-04-08, 09:12
Ok Blink, in english just for you.

Last time I was in AC she took two night off to spend with me, told daddy she had a friend visiting.

If a girl in the bar has one and only one boyfriend, he doesn't have to pay her barfine every night. But as I am not her boyfriend I would have to pay to take her out.

I am wondering about your girlfriend and long time barfine in AC. Are you still paying the bar to take her out? or will mamasan let her leave as she is your girlfriend.

I have read about long term barfines, but you have to pay xxx amount up front before the girl is free to take out of the bar at anytime. Is this what you did?

ok,
thanks for the translation, now I understand...that must be a very nice bar, cause my GF got fined when she absent, cause they know Im her boyfriend..well at least for them...I dont pay a steady barfine (whats that? LOL) when she work I have to pay her regulary or she will come after work to me if I txt her and I give her money. She went back to the bar cause she needs money and Im not so much in love to feel to support her, why should I do this?? doesnt make sense to me, but when she comes around I allways give her money, no big deal for me...she works in the bar and most of her money went home to her relatives and other suckers...poor gurl, but I told her many times, get rid of ur family, you did allready worked in a bar and now they will suck evry penny out of you, cause ur the one who knows foreigners....maybe one day she will understand....

Its going to be rainy, one hour more and I will hit the road, I decided to go straight to ac, they have a pool party at Pacific breeze with stunners from other bars and staff so I give it a try over there and I hope we dont get raided hahahaha...

Blink out

X Man
07-04-08, 15:35
I met a girl, from bar a in bar b. Girl A was a dancer and Bar b was a dance club too, and I met her in front of the toilets. She was on bar fine but remembered me from bar a. We chatted, and I gave her my card. Before the end of my trip we got together, fkd like rabbits, and her pictures once adorned the ISG thread.

Six months later, I gave her a call, and we were once again doing the rabbit routine. Then she invited me to her bar. What? She introduced me as her boyfriend and everything was cool.

I assume the boyfriend excuse can happen only so often - I never asked for it.



Ok Blink, in english just for you.

Last time I was in AC she took two night off to spend with me, told daddy she had a friend visiting.

If a girl in the bar has one and only one boyfriend, he doesn't have to pay her barfine every night. But as I am not her boyfriend I would have to pay to take her out.

I am wondering about your girlfriend and long time barfine in AC. Are you still paying the bar to take her out? or will mamasan let her leave as she is your girlfriend.

I have read about long term barfines, but you have to pay xxx amount up front before the girl is free to take out of the bar at anytime. Is this what you did?

BlakTea
07-04-08, 18:00
Gentlemen (and clearly no ladies)

Thanks for your advice, I’ve decided to stay 2 nights in Manila just for a look see. As I love malls and people watching I’ve chosen the Holiday Inn Galleria which I believe is attached to the popular Robinsons mall and is a small distance from the Megamall, plus they also have a hotel gym. Any tips on Mall Mongering? Is it simple eye contact and make your move?

I’m a little hazy on the location of LA café and EDSA in relation to the holiday Inn but I assume it’s a short taxi ride for both as I intend to hit both spots before heading off to AC. By many accounts it appears that Makati is not worth a visit and is going down hill, I wouldn’t know but many posts suggest that the best looking girls are still in this area but the service is often below par, I haven’t made up my mind on this area yet.

Now in regards to AC, clearly nobody recommends more than a couple of weeks in AC and quite frankly I’m shocked! So I need to rethink my options and bone up on Subic, Cebu and Boracay. I’ll research this while staying in AC if I need to (I. E. If I get bored) however I do like the idea of finding a sweetie and taking her away for a few days, only thing is how clingy are these girls after you do this? I don’t want to spend my time dodging possessive women as I look for my next sweetie.

Thanks to all for the advice. PI newbie will follow.

Blaktea

Ps whats the ATM situation like in AC?

Hesekiels
07-04-08, 20:47
Hi guys,

agassya and vegas got raid last night....well, what can I say..that makes me quite sad :D





Don't tell us that Las Vegas is closed now!?


Cheers - Hesekiels

Fordtech
07-04-08, 21:30
I just booked my flight. I am surprised it ended up as low as it did. Round trip NWA with using 30, 000 ff miles, $784. 30. I fly out of Rochester, NY at 12:39pm on the 24th and arrive in Pi at 10: 30pm the 25th. 23 hours total, thats pretty good from the east coast. I leave Pi August 5 at 7:45am and get home at 4:29pm the same day (sorta) LOL. The flight actually went down $200. 00 this week. Anyone in town at this time?

Pute Nut
07-04-08, 21:34
Don't tell us that Las Vegas is closed now!?


Cheers - Hesekiels

It's open.

AsiaTraveler2
07-04-08, 22:05
Blaktea,

I enjoy the PI, but I am not enamored with it and prefer Thailand. Still, I make an annual trek to the PI, as it can be fun for a while. Take my comments in that context, and I'm sure other more diehard fans can give you the other side of it from their perspective.


<cutAny tips on Mall Mongering? Is it simple eye contact and make your move?

This is just a generalization. It's similar to other parts of the world, since the basic game is the same, but of course it's more difficult in the so called "developed" countries. The girls are a little more open, so the signals a bit more clear. They seem to keep eye contact a bit longer and usually flash a smile back. It really will depend on your confidence, willingness to make your move and pickup skills. You will have your chances.


<cut>By many accounts it appears that Makati is not worth a visit and is going down hill, I wouldn’t know but many posts suggest that the best looking girls are still in this area but the service is often below par, I haven’t made up my mind on this area yet.

I have enjoyed my visits to the Burgos Street bars and other Makati bars. Some nice talent available, but the main drawback is price. It's 3-4 times what you pay in AC, but of course, there's better talent on display. Some will argue different on the looks available, but that's my opinion. Worth a few days, if you have never been there. I don't mind the prices, so it's worth a stop for me. I have not encountered the recent LE hassles, so that could change my mind, but AC is having some issues of it's own.


Now in regards to AC, clearly nobody recommends more than a couple of weeks in AC and quite frankly I’m shocked! So I need to rethink my options and bone up on Subic, Cebu and Boracay. I’ll research this while staying in AC if I need to (I. E. If I get bored) however I do like the idea of finding a sweetie and taking her away for a few days, only thing is how clingy are these girls after you do this? I don’t want to spend my time dodging possessive women as I look for my next sweetie.

A week is all that I need in AC. The drinking and girls are all that is there. Some like the "slow to a crawl" life style and can stay longer, but I can't put up with it for too long. The routine becomes eat at 6pm, drink at 7pm, start the real party at 8pm and drink till 2am to 4am, barfine the girl and shag her back at the hotel. Sleep through noon, have lunch, and either hit the mall, play pool, swim in the pool, or take a Siesta till the routine starts up again. The girls can be sweet and some can turn frigid the moment you take them from the bar. The better looking the girl, the more likely you will have issues, since the average to below average girls will try harder to keep you as a regular. Many will get clingy, others understand the game better. There are some real GFE's, that make some visits worth while. The lack of dining options is a drawback.

Cebu and Boracay are worth a visit, but Subic even with the improvements\development just sucks IMHO. Too long a drive to get to nowhere and see nothing.

Enjoy your visit, since in the end, it will be an experience and have it's ups and downs. There will be things that will open your eyes, and some very humorous moments. In the end, you will get laid many times and meet some sweethearts.

Good luck!
AT2

Figures
07-04-08, 22:13
If anyone can help me I'd truly appreciate it. Does AC have anyplace like BKK's Eden or Pattayas Hell club? What I mean is there anyplace that offers the yellow line option with pretty much whatever you want service? I have a high heel fetish. For the BG's not me haha. Can traditional high heel pumps be purchased somewhere in AC? When trying out the blowrow I don't pop very fast that way usually not at all. Any idea what the time limit would be? Do they do the "come on baby you need to get your business done" hurry up routine? Have I got the pricing as a newbie to AC right. 1200-1300 all inclusive + tip depending 300? Anyone got any thoughts on pricing when taking 2 or more out? Do you get a discount for multiple girls. Everywhere else I've been I would offer less than double the going single rate. Less as the number of girls goes up. Last question for now. Do the AC BGs do the brazil feista thing? Is doing a fiesta with say half dozen BGs workable or shiifts of girls doable there? Thanks for any help you can through my way. Wheels up mid August. Still trying to find a reasonable ticket somewhere. Best so far from the midwest is $1600 USD.

Blackangst
07-05-08, 03:56
with all this talk about raids in ac...you have to keep things in perspective. most of the time a "raid" is simply authorities coming in and randomly checking girl's id's and health checks, and making sure the bar has proper paperwork. ive actually been in a bar twice during such a "raid", and probably 1/3 of the girls simply vanish into no where (where the fuck do they go?!?!?!), otherwise its not that big of a deal. and yes, they will close bar for something as silly as a girl's forgotten health check for the week. it's not often it happens though. every once in a very blue moon a bar will be shut down "semi-permanently" due to employing an **** girl...but frankly i havent heard of that in a long time.

ymmv of course, and just my observation. but make sure you arent caught carrying drugs or anything. every once in awhile they'll check out the visitors.

Warbucks
07-05-08, 09:27
.....She went back to the bar cause she needs money and Im not so much in love to feel to support her, why should I do this?? doesnt make sense to me, but when she comes around I allways give her money, no big deal for me...she works in the bar and most of her money went home to her relatives and other suckers...poor gurl, but I told her many times, get rid of ur family, you did allready worked in a bar and now they will suck evry penny out of you, cause ur the one who knows foreigners....maybe one day she will understand....
Blink out

Hi Blink

How long have you been living in PI? To ask a Filipino to turn on their family is like asking ole Dub to give up on Iraq. Like asking Bin Laden to sit down for a cup of tea with the Pope.

I watched my ole lady's mother work herself to the bone in Japan to take care of her family back in PI. Slaving away at some cosmetic factory. Now she needs assistance and the bastards are nowhere to be found. Yeah I could step in with my deep pockets and wipe the slate clean but I am trying to teach her and my ole lady about the true value of "family." No one in the "family" is volunteering to help not even her cousin who is worth in money and assets damn near $500,000.

Boy I tell you this is a fucked up world....

Bob Down
07-05-08, 09:55
I met a girl, from bar a in bar b. Girl A was a dancer and Bar b was a dance club too, and I met her in front of the toilets. She was on bar fine but remembered me from bar a. We chatted, and I gave her my card. Before the end of my trip we got together, fkd like rabbits, and her pictures once adorned the ISG thread.

Six months later, I gave her a call, and we were once again doing the rabbit routine. Then she invited me to her bar. What? She introduced me as her boyfriend and everything was cool.

I assume the boyfriend excuse can happen only so often - I never asked for it.

Sadly for me my girl can not use the boyfriend excuse, the owner knows my girl pretty well.

Blink,

In my report about my chat with my girl she spoke about friend A and friend B, one night I was walking past friend A's bar when she called me in. I bought one drink and asked her if she wanted me to barfine her. She said she was going to quit the bar that night and if I pay her barfine she would not get comission, so she agreed to meet in kokomos at 8 pm.

At 8 pm she turned up with friend B, we went to Atlantis for the body painting show ( maybe I have a picture of your girlfriend? ) then friend A and B came back to my room. Friend B only gives blow jobs as she has a pinoy bf, but I fucked friend A who also has a pinoy bf. Go figure! I gave friend A some money and friend B got half price for the blow job.

Did see friend A one more time before I left, she went barhopping with some guy told me she would meet me at 1 am at my room. She ended up knocking on my door at 2am. Too tired to fuck her at 2am so went back to sleep and fucked her in the morning.

Bob Down
07-05-08, 10:28
Hi Blink

How long have you been living in PI? To ask a Filipino to turn on their family is like asking ole Dub to give up on Iraq. Like asking Bin Laden to sit down for a cup of tea with the Pope.

I watched my ole lady's mother work herself to the bone in Japan to take care of her family back in PI. Slaving away at some cosmetic factory. Now she needs assistance and the bastards are nowhere to be found. Yeah I could step in with my deep pockets and wipe the slate clean but I am trying to teach her and my ole lady about the true value of "family." No one in the "family" is volunteering to help not even her cousin who is worth in money and assets damn near $500,000.

Boy I tell you this is a fucked up world....

I have a girl in Bangkok, same story. Her cousins father comes from a rich family but her cousin could not lend her the money that she needed.

Think about it this way, you have earned big money through hard work or other means. Why give that money to someone who hasn't earned it. Family or other wise. Look after parents and children, everyone else is on their own.

They can have any number of extended family and you can't save them all. Give to one give to all.

Mozzee
07-05-08, 11:45
Hey Guys,

My wife and I are planning a trip to AC in August and I am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. And whats it like in AC in August?

I've added a pic of the wife with a few of her toys she likes to use on pretty girls!

X Man
07-05-08, 13:56
I'll be in Manila the first few days of August. PM me if you're up for a pub crawl. I'm also using NWA, but leave on the 4th.

X


I just booked my flight. I am surprised it ended up as low as it did. Round trip NWA with using 30, 000 ff miles, $784. 30. I fly out of Rochester, NY at 12:39pm on the 24th and arrive in Pi at 10: 30pm the 25th. 23 hours total, thats pretty good from the east coast. I leave Pi August 5 at 7:45am and get home at 4:29pm the same day (sorta) LOL. The flight actually went down $200. 00 this week. Anyone in town at this time?

Hesekiels
07-05-08, 17:02
Hey Guys,

My wife and I are planning a trip to AC in August and I am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars.


... you are planning to take a girl together with your wife!? Why not - if she is that open minded! :) However, no problem at all! :)

Cheers - Hesekiels

Hesekiels
07-05-08, 17:05
It's open.


Thank G*d! Las Vegas was namely always my "last hope"! :)


Cheers - Hesekiels

Big Fun
07-05-08, 19:36
Hi,

I just wanted to add my experience with threesomes. Even though we are talking about bar girls here, some have an undercurrent of conservatism still running through them. Bottom line.- you've got to be careful about choosing the right girl.

My GF and I always ask them in a relaxed manner about whether they have ever been with a girl, whether they liked it etc etc. The other one I like is to tell them when we pulled them out of the lineup is that I didn't choose them but my GF did. I tell them that my GF always chooses the girl.- true. (I've picked lots of gorgeous duds over the years) Gives them the hint. Also, my GF usually tries to do the eye contact thing with prospective girls to see if they are game prior to buying a drink.

My GF is Filipina and so I've often asked her why some bar girls are reluctant to go with girls. She says that a lot of Filipina just view it as weird, and again an undercurrent of conservatism. As an example of the undercurrent, one time I was sucking and banging the. Out of a Filipina bar girl. She was having a great time and I said ". , you're such a bad girl" She immediately interjected mid performance "No! I'm a good girl! ". OK. Didn't miss a beat ". You're such a good girl! ".- true also!

The good news. There are lots of hot Filipina bar girls who are totally game. There are plenty who are totally curious also. And there are those who won't be into it. (I'd go light on the toys to begin with)

Regardless, of the advice in picking up the right chick, bar girls are generally happy to see other chicks in the bars. I think they find it interesting as compared to the day in day out middle aged dudes (like me.). Also your wife should tell them how beautiful they are etc etc.

We've had better luck with girls in Manila regarding the threesomes. Ace from Flamingos a total porn star.- she and I simultaneously licked by GFs **** to orgasm.-get excited just thinking about the two tongues. Crystal from Hollywood not far behind. I watched her and my GF lick each other to orgasm prior to banging them both. If in Manila, Flamingos is a good spot for uninhibited girls. You can just ask at the bar for the girl by name.

Final recommendation is that if you really get along with a hot chick, take her to Boracay with your wife. A totally hot time.

At AC, I would stay at ABC with a jacuzzi.- enough said.

JC

P.S. Your wife is hot.- have a great time!

Pocket Sushi
07-06-08, 00:59
Hey Guys,

My wife and I are planning a trip to AC in August and I am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. And whats it like in AC in August?

I've added a pic of the wife with a few of her toys she likes to use on pretty girls!You won't have any problems. I've seen other couples doing the same. I expect you'll both be quite popular.

FireWalker
07-06-08, 03:38
Hey Guys,

My wife and I are planning a trip to AC in August and I am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. And whats it like in AC in August?

I've added a pic of the wife with a few of her toys she likes to use on pretty girls!

You'll find some T-Birds at Dollhouse and other Fields bars. Your wife is blonde so that should be no problem. I'll be there after August 25th if you want to double (or triple) date.LOL

FireWalker
07-06-08, 03:40
If anyone can help me I'd truly appreciate it. Does AC have anyplace like BKK's Eden or Pattayas Hell club.

No,nothing that organized. That would be too close to "prostitution" in the Phils.

Mozzee
07-06-08, 05:06
You'll find some T-Birds at Dollhouse and other Fields bars. Your wife is blonde so that should be no problem. I'll be there after August 25th if you want to double (or triple) date.LOLT-Birds are threesome girls I take it? We'll be having a girl each rather than three-in-a-bed, the wife just wants to handcuff them, so long as the girl has a willing tongue!

Does anyone know what the mains power is rated at in Angeles...220v ? I'm thinking ; recharging camera batteries / wifes hair dryer, tongs etc.

Be safe, Ric

Acfreddie
07-06-08, 06:46
T-Birds are threesome girls I take it? We'll be having a girl each rather than three-in-a-bed, the wife just wants to handcuff them, so long as the girl has a willing tongue!

Does anyone know what the mains power is rated at in Angeles...220v ? I'm thinking ; recharging camera batteries / wifes hair dryer, tongs etc.

Be safe, RicMost hotels have both 220 and 110 outlets, but just to be safe 220 is the widely accepted standard.

Acfreddie
07-06-08, 06:51
I have been able to confirm last night that the Agasya bar is closed. Unconfirmed sources are saying that the reason for the NBI raid that happened a few days ago (at both Agasya and Las Vegas club) were that Agasya was allowing EWR'S (local term Early Work Release, been in use for a while to replace the word/term barfine). If this proves to be true, then AC is in the same mode as january 2008 when this happened (EWR's were deemed illegal) and raids continued to happen for almost a weeks time. This is (YET AGAIN) a sad time for AC.

Andre007
07-06-08, 12:57
Has anyone ever heard of this place?? Is it Disco or Barfine Bar?

Thanks

Pute Nut
07-06-08, 19:46
Does anyone know what the mains power is rated at in Angeles...220v ? I'm thinking ; recharging camera batteries / wifes hair dryer, tongs etc.



The RATING as I understand it is usually 220 (and 110) Volts. Right now I'm GETTING about 233-235 ;)

Many modern chargers etc are multivoltage type (typically 100-240 V) and those should be usually no problem, but anything sensitive that requires a stable voltage should NOT be plugged into a PI outlet w/o a voltage regulator.

BuleDaddy
07-06-08, 20:48
hey guys,

my wife and i are planning a trip to ac in august and i am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. and whats it like in ac in august?

i've added a pic of the wife with a few of her toys she likes to use on pretty girls!
you wife will love it. pinay girls will lick a snatch but don't like being licked by a girl. at least my recruits. i can talk them into it, and the lapper is all gung ho, but the lapee girls get upset after a little while. it is like they are enjoying something they shouldn't be enjoying and get this sad, scared look on their face. even a butt licking girl i pal around with that recuits some great prospects for me started crying when a hot 3-holer from her bar started licking her. . we had to hold one girl down she was squirming so bad and she started crying so we let her go. this was my experiences when i get 3 in my sack. i thought it was very strange that they were so willing to lick but wierded out when getting licked themselves.

Madness2169
07-06-08, 21:20
Hello guys,

After months of research, I've finally decided to take my first trip to AC. I'll be leaving in Nov. and flying from LAX to MNL(roughly, $1000-1200 round-trip) for about 3 weeks. I'm still feel little nervous, even after practically reading all the reports on here and other similar site. I still have some questions, if you guy can help me out with:

1. Roughly, how much money should I bring with me to AC for 3 weeks (Ex. flight/hotel)? To be safe, what percentage should I actually bring with and what percentage should I be taking from the ATM?

2. Which hotel offers the most reliable wireless internet?

3. I'm more laid back and private individual, so which bar(s) should I be focusing on?

4. Is anyone else planning to be in AC around Nov. and willing to show this newbie some pointers? I'll buy the drinks :)

Thanks

Buko Max
07-06-08, 21:44
Does anyone know what the mains power is rated at in Angeles...220v ? I'm thinking ; recharging camera batteries / wifes hair dryer, tongs etc.Many hotels in AC have both 220 and 110 available.
Have a great trip!

Aussiec
07-06-08, 23:35
Yes club class is onon the second floor I beleave its near Caresel but correct me if I am wrong. It is a small disco and yes the girls can be BF but its more of a disco than anything else. The girls usually only about 5 or 6 of them stay together and dance on same dance floor with usually men that have bf from girls from other clubs. The Papason is very young in his early 30s maybe late 20s. Nice kid who is married to a pinay. Can not remember his name but irish guy and will make you feel at home.

Fordtech
07-07-08, 03:05
Has anyone ever heard of this place?? Is it Disco or Barfine Bar?

ThanksIts a disco on Fields ave. Music is very loud and the girls love to go there.

Acfreddie
07-07-08, 03:10
Has anyone ever heard of this place?? Is it Disco or Barfine Bar?

ThanksIt is located above the Bunny Ranch bar on Fields ave. It is a mixture. It is a disco type place but they have GRO's (Guest Relations Officers) there dancing in club wear that you can at your option barfine/ewr, but most of the guys i know go there with girls already in tow.

Acfreddie
07-07-08, 03:22
Hello guys,

After months of research, I've finally decided to take my first trip to AC. I'll be leaving in Nov. and flying from LAX to MNL(roughly, $1000-1200 round-trip) for about 3 weeks. I'm still feel little nervous, even after practically reading all the reports on here and other similar site. I still have some questions, if you guy can help me out with:

1. Roughly, how much money should I bring with me to AC for 3 weeks (Ex. flight/hotel)? To be safe, what percentage should I actually bring with and what percentage should I be taking from the ATM?

2. Which hotel offers the most reliable wireless internet?

3. I'm more laid back and private individual, so which bar(s) should I be focusing on?

4. Is anyone else planning to be in AC around Nov. and willing to show this newbie some pointers? I'll buy the drinks :)

Thanks#1 Most guys I know plan to spend between $150 and $200 per day in AC. If you are a bell ringer or like to have more than one girl per day/night then add another $50 or so.

#2 Reliability and Internet are honestly two words that here in AC and the Philippines should NEVER be used together, that said, most of the middle to high end hotels have in room or wireless Internet. I have heard that PB (Pacific Breeze) usually has a good wireless Internet signal on most days (remember the hotel cannot do anything if the Internet service provider sucks and most of them here do suck).

#3 Sound to me like you have two category choices - #1 would be the BIG bars (Such as Doll house, Atlantis, Crystal Palace) in the big bars, you are far away from the girls as these are 2 and 3 story/level buildings. #2 would be the smaller bars up on perimeter road that are known to be customer friendly and not aggressive (perimeter bars prices average P60 for local drinks, vs P85-P95 for fields drinks). Perimeter bars I would suggest are LIA (lost in Asia), Roadies, Stargate, Honey Ko's, Fire and Ice, Emotions, Cherry's club and Stampede.

#4 - I live here so that would not be a problem, when it gets closer to your arrival, shoot me a PM and we can try to hook up and party around the town.

I can also suggest that if you are a newbie in town to go to the BIG TABLE (is the large wooden table) inside of Kokomo's sit down and order a drink, there are usually many guys at the BIG TABLE (both tourists and expats), just introduce yourself, tell them you are new in town and ask anyone if they would like to bar hop.

Blink157
07-07-08, 07:43
Has anyone ever heard of this place?? Is it Disco or Barfine Bar?

Thanks
hi,
maybe the name is topclass disco..Its a disco for foreigners, I think no pinoy kid allwed to go inside..unlike skytrax where all the scumbags hang around(sorry but as of now I havent seen any decent "local" going there)..

Its near bunny ranch , you need to climb some stairs up then you in..I think all the staff can be barfined, inlcuding the guard :D..

Oh , I forgt, no barfine in AC , that would be prostitution, would it?

Blink :)

Blink157
07-07-08, 07:48
I have been able to confirm last night that the Agasya bar is closed. Unconfirmed sources are saying that the reason for the NBI raid that happened a few days ago (at both Agasya and Las Vegas club) were that Agasya was allowing EWR'S (local term Early Work Release, been in use for a while to replace the word/term barfine). If this proves to be true, then AC is in the same mode as january 2008 when this happened (EWR's were deemed illegal) and raids continued to happen for almost a weeks time. This is (YET AGAIN) a sad time for AC.

Hmm, korean owned places :D...well Im quite sad now....

nice gurl working there...wonder where they are now? Maybe on dateinasia.com? hahahahaha...


Blink :)

Blink157
07-07-08, 08:11
Hello guys,

After months of research, I've finally decided to take my first trip to AC. I'll be leaving in Nov. and flying from LAX to MNL(roughly, $1000-1200 round-trip) for about 3 weeks. I'm still feel little nervous, even after practically reading all the reports on here and other similar site. I still have some questions, if you guy can help me out with:

1. Roughly, how much money should I bring with me to AC for 3 weeks (Ex. flight/hotel)? To be safe, what percentage should I actually bring with and what percentage should I be taking from the ATM?

2. Which hotel offers the most reliable wireless internet?

3. I'm more laid back and private individual, so which bar(s) should I be focusing on?

4. Is anyone else planning to be in AC around Nov. and willing to show this newbie some pointers? I'll buy the drinks :)

Thanks
Hi,
ACfreddy gave allready good info. Just let me add some facts..

Never carry more cash around as what you like to spend for the day/evening.

Which means if you draw from ATM just only take the cash with you, you really wanted to spend for this day..Deposit the rest in your hotel safety box or elsewhere..I m going to SEA since many years and now living here..I never got anything stolen in the Philippines..thailand yes..thats another story :D

Why im telling you this?? Cause the more you drink, the more you will e encouraged from the gurls to spend and buy and later you will find urself somewhere in ur hotel room, big head and the money from last night is just gone :D Happens to me all the time....

Secound, get a wing man who watch you on ur first barhopping..Kokomoz is ok to get some contacts..guys will sureley help you.

Third, if you smell trouble, walk away, no need to play the hero. Phils aint ur country, if u mess with one guy , you mess with them all :D.....so be smart, walk away, smile, you be ok

Fourth, avoid streethookers,if you want a gurl, barfine in the bar, avoid anything which will be offerd you on the street..Cialis, viagra , etc..ask some papa sans from bar , they will help you to get the right stuff.Check out the bar named "The club" if you into those things..Its allready been told many times, but I will tell it once more in here. AVoid any invitation from locals to a cardgame..or maybe house cooking, drinkin session etc etc etc..Its unusal for a normal filipino that they will approach you with something, exception is they want some thing from you..YOUR money :D so, skip those "people"

I guess that be all for today ....PM me for more info.I be around also ;-)


Blink

AsiaTraveler2
07-07-08, 11:27
Hello guys,

After months of research, I've finally decided to take my first trip to AC. I'll be leaving in Nov. and flying from LAX to MNL(roughly, $1000-1200 round-trip) for about 3 weeks. I'm still feel little nervous, even after practically reading all the reports on here and other similar site. I still have some questions, if you guy can help me out with:

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It looks like acfreddie has you covered, but I would like to add that the ride from the airport to AC is an experience in itself. It takes you through most of the city, where you will see block after block of poverty. People selling food on the roads, weaving their way through traffic, and it will take a long while before you even hit the "freeway". If you are arriving at night, it's even more depressing. Then you start to wonder if you will ever reach the damn place. After a few hours and change, you finally arrive and it takes a while to get comfortable with the environment.

On my first visit, I was lost and it was also nothing like it is now. It was my 2nd trip that I began to figure things out. You have the benefit of this forum and someone like acfreddie! Be thankful! I do, however, have some fond memories of all the mistakes that I made!

Peace,
AT2

X Man
07-07-08, 14:09
Just a theory....

The earlier Western bar shake downs were because the K places gave up a bit too much booty, and those who can do shakedowns tried to get the same from the Western oriented bars.

When Western oriented bars were reluctant, started talking about moving to a more friendly beachside place, just down the new road ...the shakedowners had a moment of reflection.

But of course the K places probably got an earful about how things work in Angels city ...so they decided to fall in line and pay the going rate. Shakedowners probably weren't happy with that at all, so they did the thing they believe will best increase cash flow.

Koreans are proud and stubborn, and usually good business men. It'll be interesting to see how things turn out.

Blink, stop being so sarcastic.

X


Hmm, korean owned places :D...well Im quite sad now....

nice gurl working there...wonder where they are now? Maybe on dateinasia.com? hahahahaha...


Blink :)

X Man
07-07-08, 14:29
AT2, this is an excellent post.

I try to put myself in the newcomers shoes, and post accordingly, but I rarely get the mood as you do so well in this post.

If you've never been to a third world country, it is (or should be) a life altering experience.

As for Manila is starts as you leave the airport, walk out the door and see hundreds of people standing behind the barriers....it may see like they are all looking at you. They are, for the moment.

DISCLAIMER: My first Philippines adventure included a seaside view of Mt. Mayon and a walk across "Shit River Bridge". This was the time before air travel.

Some neighborhoods look really run down and many Westerners equate that with high-crime areas. Well, you never know what can happen when people are desperate, but generally Filipinos are curious about you, usually not dangerous. I'm a big ugly American, and I've walked down some strange Philippine paths, but have always prevailed with my best weapon -- a smile.

If you are scared out of your boots, you will increase your risk. Look calm, and talk calmly to people. Smile. Don't be rude.

Oh, and let's be real, lock the doors of the taxi.

AS2, we need more post like that. Thanks. Got me to thinking all kinds of shit from my many PI adventures.

X


It looks like acfreddie has you covered, but I would like to add that the ride from the airport to AC is an experience in itself. It takes you through most of the city, where you will see block after block of poverty. People selling food on the roads, weaving their way through traffic, and it will take a long while before you even hit the "freeway". If you are arriving at night, it's even more depressing. Then you start to wonder if you will ever reach the damn place. After a few hours and change, you finally arrive and it takes a while to get comfortable with the environment.

On my first visit, I was lost and it was also nothing like it is now. It was my 2nd trip that I began to figure things out. You have the benefit of this forum and someone like acfreddie! Be thankful! I do, however, have some fond memories of all the mistakes that I made!

Peace,
AT2

Madness2169
07-07-08, 15:23
Thanks everyone. Your posts were both very informative and extremely helpful. All my major hang-ups have been resolved and I'm going to book my flight/hotel now. Just have to wait patiently until November now.

Thanks again

Blink157
07-07-08, 15:59
[QUOTE=X Man

Blink, stop being so sarcastic.

X[/QUOTE]

sorry I dont like them...in general speaking..can you belive that in subic some bars have plates/signs on the entree which says: ONLY KOREANS ALOWED...hahaha....now ok I wont go there anyway and Im sure they also dont like me, but as a pinoy(Im german) living there...hell, if somebody would post that in my country...well...that wont gona happen anyway...With all due respect, we just guest here and if we dont like things, we can allways go back into our country or some other country. you have to be here xman and then you can see how those "excellent business man" behave in public..

Anyway, Im not sad :D

Blink out

HornyGeorge
07-07-08, 20:19
I am with Blink completely. THEY are the racist MFs trying to keep EVERYBODY else out of "their" places.

The Koreans think they have their own places in the PI where no one else can go. They need to be confronted and challenged about that; they can do it in Korea, but the Philippines is a sovereign nation and they do not own it. I'd like to see even more hassling of Korean businesses by the police, mayor's office, the association of bar owners you name it. Everybody should gang up on them to make them feel unwelcome in every non Korean owned bar or hotel until they stop the discriminatory BS. Banning smoking in bars would have the same effect as they ALL chain smoke and would not stay long in any place that bans smoking (well they would light up anyway ignoring the ban until they were forced to put out their death sticks or leave-it is a shame that smoking related illness is so slow to develop!)

Andre007
07-08-08, 01:42
Hi,

Maybe the name is topclass disco. Its a disco for foreigners, I think no pinoy kid allwed to go inside. Unlike skytrax where all the scumbags hang around (sorry but as of now I haven't seen any decent "local" going there).

Its near bunny ranch, you need to climb some stairs up then you in. I think all the staff can be barfined, inlcuding the guard: D.

Oh, I forgt, no barfine in AC, that would be prostitution, would it?

Blink Thank you to all who assisted.

Andre

Fordtech
07-08-08, 04:05
I will be in Ac on July 26th and leave the 5th. of August. This is trip #5 and I have never had a problem at all. Your cherry trip you will be very nervous but like many of said you will meet alot of guys that will give you pointers along the way. I only carry enough cash to get thu the night, I have had to come back to the hotel for more cash but thats not a problem. I am not a heavy drinker at all and I advise not being one either. I have seen drunk guys taken advantage of.

Figures
07-08-08, 05:18
I'm thinking of staying at the Wild Orchid Hotel do to it's close proximity to Santos and I have heard the pool is nice. I was quoted a balcony room overlooking the pool for P4, 400 VAT included per night. Does anyone have any knowledge of this place? I thought hanging out at the pool during the day would cool. Also does anyone know if I can buy high heels at the mall for the BG's to wear for me or buy them here and bring them with me to be sure. If anyone is going to be around I would like to find a wingman. I'll be there for a week arriving August 20th.

Thanks

Blink157
07-08-08, 08:58
I'm thinking of staying at the Wild Orchid Hotel do to it's close proximity to Santos and I have heard the pool is nice. I was quoted a balcony room overlooking the pool for P4, 400 VAT included per night. Does anyone have any knowledge of this place? I thought hanging out at the pool during the day would cool. Also does anyone know if I can buy high heels at the mall for the BG's to wear for me or buy them here and bring them with me to be sure. If anyone is going to be around I would like to find a wingman. I'll be there for a week arriving August 20th.

Thanks

Wild orchid is a nice place and I would say it has the nicest pool in angels city, sunken bar etc..
YOu get either their deluxe room for 3900p or 2900p on special days during week (when Im not there...typical grrrrr) or their suite rooms, which I havent taken yet. I stayed there one time some weeks ago when evrything was fully booked and I had a special gurl with me...
High Heels to buy for the gurls? Well I guess they bring that for you, but ok, you can allways bring them to sm clark and take them to a shopping tour. I just wouldnt show up on sundays(family days) with a hooker, wearing heavy make up and high heels , hehehehe...but even you do, its ok, who cares...

wild orchid has a very gud location. you walk out , cross the street and you can have a bj for 600p if you like (and if you brave enough, coz some of them have really scary looks :D)
walk right and you find shanos.which is affilated to wildorchid..has sportsbar, gud menue, draft beer and waitresses you can barfine..

You will have a good time :)


Blink

Warbucks
07-08-08, 09:17
I'm thinking of staying at the Wild Orchid Hotel do to it's close proximity to Santos and I have heard the pool is nice. I was quoted a balcony room overlooking the pool for P4, 400 VAT included per night. Does anyone have any knowledge of this place? I thought hanging out at the pool during the day would cool. Also does anyone know if I can buy high heels at the mall for the BG's to wear for me or buy them here and bring them with me to be sure. If anyone is going to be around I would like to find a wingman. I'll be there for a week arriving August 20th.

Thanks

The Wild Orchid is a great option. I highly recommend it. Its close to all the action the food is great and the staff are friendly. I will be staying at ABC next visit though just for a test run. ACPD is setting in.

Take it sleazy

X Man
07-08-08, 12:28
Hey, that might have been me! Please elaborate!

X


I have seen drunk guys taken advantage of.

X Man
07-08-08, 12:55
Blink,

Have you ever thought that their teeny dinkies (guys at ISG tell me this, I really never saw a Korean dick) and their notorious inability to speak English may make them so insecure that would rather not have competition from the likes of you?

It might be interesting to go to those exclusive places and ask "WHY"?

Recently AC Hrry the Horse had some very negative comments about K guys, mostly for the same reasons as Blink mentioned. His intent was to bar any K from his establishment (Blue Boar Inn and Restaurant). Wow, that shocked me. Any Korean that would wander down that direction and find the place, and be ready and willing to speak English should be give a beer on the house. That is the kind of guy that we need to encourage.

If Hrry keeps his word and bars entry, that K guy will be posting a message in Hangul about how the friggin westerners hate Koreans and you should avoid them at all costs. BTW, Koreans are wired...very wired.

I have a Korean friend who helped my buy the computer I'm now working on. Loud, sometimes obnoxious, but a good guy and a good friend. One of my best sexual experiences was as a teenager being ravished my an older Korean divorcee (in USA). Vagina muscles that were out of this world.

Yes, I know they tend to be loud, exclusive, and sometimes aggressive.

Damn, if your country was a perpetual battlefield ,unfortunately located between such large and "friendly" neighbors as Russia, China and Japan, you might be a bit cranky too! :-)

I'm not disagreeing with you Blink, just want to give a different perspective.

X



sorry I dont like them...in general speaking..can you belive that in subic some bars have plates/signs on the entree which says: ONLY KOREANS ALOWED...hahaha....now ok I wont go there anyway and Im sure they also dont like me, but as a pinoy(Im german) living there...hell, if somebody would post that in my country...well...that wont gona happen anyway...With all due respect, we just guest here and if we dont like things, we can allways go back into our country or some other country. you have to be here xman and then you can see how those "excellent business man" behave in public..

Anyway, Im not sad :D

Blink out

Noguera
07-09-08, 00:28
Acqua

Your barfine of a couple of weeks ago who said, "I knew when I came to AC not to bring my heart." was she from Dollhouse? I would really like to know.

Noguera

Acqua
07-09-08, 03:44
Acqua

Your barfine of a couple of weeks ago who said, "I knew when I came to AC not to bring my heart." was she from Dollhouse? I would really like to know.

NogueraNoguera,

Nah, she was from either Lollipop or La Bamba-I can't remember which as I was pretty blitzed. Either way, I haven't bf'ed from Dollhouse in over two years.

Noguera
07-10-08, 02:39
Just curious. A couple of months ago I had a Dollhouse girl tell me almost the exact same thing. She was actually really quite sweet.

Noguera

Acqua
07-10-08, 04:14
Just curious. A couple of months ago I had a Dollhouse girl tell me almost the exact same thing. She was actually really quite sweet.

NogueraNoguera, no problem man. The girl I was referring one was actually pretty sweet also. I was chatting with her on ym earlier and the bar was Lollipop. She says she never worked at Dollhouse, but who knows if she is telling me the truth or not.

Dameon
07-10-08, 06:09
A link to Angeles City Magazine, a freebie giveaway in AC, which has a complete listing of hotels with contact information and prices, as well as bar listings and map, upcoming events, articles on life in AC.

http://www.cityofangelsmagazine.com/

Hope some of you heading to AC find thie useful!

Onkelspitzz
07-10-08, 19:02
Just returned from my 2 weeks trip in Angeles. It was great but after one week my dick was burning by pissing! The doctor examined a sexually transmitted disease: Gonorrhoea!

I am not sure where I got it.

I got blow jobs from girls from Doll-House, Blue-Nile, Welcome Inn and Santos street (Honky Tonk)!!! Don´t make sex - fuck and blow jo without condom!

Spitz

Sick boy 3
07-10-08, 20:41
I am with Blink completely. THEY are the racist MFs trying to keep EVERYBODY else out of "their" places.

The Koreans think they have their own places in the PI where no one else can go. They need to be confronted and challenged about that; they can do it in Korea, but the Philippines is a sovereign nation and they do not own it. I'd like to see even more hassling of Korean businesses by the police, mayor's office, the association of bar owners you name it. Everybody should gang up on them to make them feel unwelcome in every non Korean owned bar or hotel until they stop the discriminatory BS. Banning smoking in bars would have the same effect as they ALL chain smoke and would not stay long in any place that bans smoking (well they would light up anyway ignoring the ban until they were forced to put out their death sticks or leave-it is a shame that smoking related illness is so slow to develop!)I want to tell you one experience in Manila. I was leaving the LA cafe and took a cab to Miss Universal. Wanting to see some nookie before taking it back hopefully. I got there. And they were not open yet. Blah blah. Etc. Thank goodness this driver waited to see if I got in or not. He suggested that he could take me to a spot that he knew about. I only remember that is was about 6-8 blocks away from the Miss U. We parked in the back and waited for a few minutes. He assured me that the girls would be starting to work in a few minutes. There was this big picture window. And sure enough about 25 gals came out standing around this window for about 3 minutes. They were all knock outs. And one tall one really caught my eye. They then left the area apparently to another area. The driver took me to the entrance. There were 3 filipinos at the entrance and looked at me and said I was not welcome. I started laughing and was intent on getting that one knockout. I pulled out a $100 bill and said that this might change their mind. The look on the driver's face. Hahaha. The guy at the front door. Said no way yank. Korean only. I then pulled out another $100 and said that maybe my friend wants to join me also. Again I got refused. ! The driver looked at the guy guarding the door and called him a dumb f*ckin Filipino. And we left. We laughed so hard in the taxi on the way to Burgos. And talking about the Korean attitude in Manila. As he said probably some type of higher end of Korean business men funding the place. Set up with philippine women searching for the talent. It was a good experience to see how things can work in the Philippines. But damn. That girl was hot.

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Elmerfud
07-11-08, 02:13
Just returned from my 2 weeks trip in Angeles. It was great but after one week my dick was burning by pissing! The doctor examined a sexually transmitted disease: Gonorrhoea!

I am not sure where I got it.

I got blow jobs from girls from Doll-House, Blue-Nile, Welcome Inn and Santos street (Honky Tonk)!!! Don´t make sex - fuck and blow jo without condom!

SpitzAre you sure that you had gonohrrea from a BBBJ, would be interessing to know as I always had think that you could not get gonohrrea or syphillis from receiving oral sex.

Warbucks
07-11-08, 04:00
Just returned from my 2 weeks trip in Angeles. It was great but after one week my dick was burning by pissing! The doctor examined a sexually transmitted disease: Gonorrhoea!

I am not sure where I got it.

I got blow jobs from girls from Doll-House, Blue-Nile, Welcome Inn and Santos street (Honky Tonk)!!! Don´t make sex - fuck and blow jo without condom!

Spitz

STDs go with fucking like death with war. Always keep the plastic.

Aussiec
07-11-08, 04:48
Have any of you stayed at Medgar Executive apartelle In angeles. I would love to here any feedback on this place verse staying at the usual hotels. I just do not remember ever seeing it in my trips in AC. But hey I was not there to check out where to stay. Obviously my"checking out" was more focused in other directions.

Blink157
07-11-08, 08:11
Have any of you stayed at Medgar Executive apartelle In angeles. I would love to here any feedback on this place verse staying at the usual hotels. I just do not remember ever seeing it in my trips in AC. But hey I was not there to check out where to stay. Obviously my"checking out" was more focused in other directions.Hi,

I didnt stayed there but I went there to check the rooms, they look ok and nicely and new decorated. Why I didnt stay there? The noise, its on the main street and if you love noise its the place to stay. Maybe its more silent during night. Not sure. I gues they give now some more discount, I would only stay in the bigger rooms. YOu have to go there and check out the noise level, if its ok for you its a good place to stay.

I prefer Central park or orchid inn , swiss chalet or pacific breeze..They have really quiet rooms, not all, but I make sure I get one :D

Blink