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SouthEaster
08-18-19, 13:47
I highly suspect ED is taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Not having been inside for a few years though I honestly can't say.

Member #4698
08-18-19, 13:49
Does more vigorous dance girls make best bed partners? Does aerobic instructor is the best in bed?

Maybe that is pussy for thought.I wouldn't make any overall blanket statements as to the quality of a dancer, an aerobic instructor, or a gymnast in bed. I assume their service varies like any other set of girls, but they all start with pretty tight bodies and that's a good thing.

I once had the pleasure of a classically trained Vietnamese ballerina. How she ended up working for top dollar in Alexis Hotel in Jakarta is another story, but wow! She put some moves on me that were very pleasurable and quite unique. I enjoyed her performance a lot. I would do her again in a heartbeat.

Mr Enternational
08-18-19, 15:05
Now I have watched YouTube videos and read reports. Apparently it is suggested you can get girls inside for 1500, waiting outside 1000. To me quality is subjective. The reports above paint 2 very different pictures. A high class club or bottom of the barrel dive.

Yeah I know, I will just have to go and see for myself.I think the high class post was written as a joke. It is just a club to go pick up hookers. I go there in shorts and flip flops. It is not suggested that you can get girls for 1500. That is a fact. I have never given a chick from High Society more than 1500 for LT. Inside is no different than outside. People go in and out constantly. You will see it and wonder why you wasted your brain thinking about this.

Sammon
08-18-19, 15:20
I think the high class post was written as a joke. It is just a club to go pick up hookers. I go there in shorts and flip flops. It is not suggested that you can get girls for 1500. That is a fact. I have never given a chick from High Society more than 1500 for LT. Inside is no different than outside. People go in and out constantly. You will see it and wonder why you wasted your brain thinking about this.1500 maybe the low ball figure quoted early am when they are drunk and need a place to crash.

Charles Dickin
08-18-19, 18:51
Does more vigorous dance girls make best bed partners?I think so. But it's based off of one example only. But what an example.

Not an Angeles story but I had the pole dancer from Crazy House or Crazy Horse or Bat Shit Crazy or whatever the hell it is called near Soi Cowboy. I posted a FR somewhere some years ago. She was fucking mental and the most memorable fuck I ever had. She came to close to breaking some of my ribs when she wrapped her legs round my torso and squeezed. Now I know what the pole feels like. What a night! I've never been able to watch Goldeneye the same way since.

Your question is about bed partners. I didn't get her in bed. She manhandled me over to the sofa to start. I had not choice. She was very strong. We did eventually finish on the bed although I don't remember how we got there. She probably picked me up and carried me.

As this is the Angeles thread then back to Angeles. I haven't been back for some years. If you like dancing girls this is the wrong city. They call themselves cultural dancers but belly dancers would be the honest movie trailer. If you haven't been to Angeles before then expect bellies to be bigger than waists. And most cultural dancers aren't very cultured and can't dance or won't dance. Imagine a load of female fast food fans in outfits that have become too small thanks due to fast food, all standing around at a bus stop. That was my overall impression in most bars. Except Eruptions which had some good dancers.

There was a pole dancer at Dollhouse. She was the only girl in the whole place who could dance. She was also the only girl in the whole place with a waste thinner than her hips. The Dollhouse pole dancer had long black hair and long black boots. I would have taken her but already seemed to be with a customer. And it might have been harsh on the girl I'd just rented from Lollipop. I hadn't asked whether she was sale or return.

Lollipop lady was a bad dancer but decent in the bed and it turned out on the bed, on the floor by the bed and in the jacuzzi. She said "shit" a lot during sex too. But I don't want to restart that topic. I don't remember her name but it was probably Lyn something or something Lyn.

Every girl in the PI I spoke to that trip seemed be called some form of Lyn. It was totally confusing. There was Jocelyn, Jaclyn, Jerrilyn, Evelyn, Analyn, and one just called Lynn for originality.

There was also another somethingLynn whose name I don't remember. I remember she was tiny with bit tits. Those I definitely remember. She was a little bit angry with me for getting sticky liquid over her crucifix. As a good Catholic Pinay she should know Luke 3:4-5 says 'EVERY RAVINE WILL BE FILLED. ' I wasn't targeting the crucifix. I had higher aims and gave it my best shot. I think the gravity from those tits affected things. If I wasn't going to hell before I was after that. She wasn't a very good dancer but better than the other lazy ones on stage. And slimmer and bustier. And she had the biggest crucifix. So if you can't decide on dance moves take a ruler and measure the accessories.

I remember Jovilyn was an Atlantean spotlight dancer. I don't know that I saw her dance though. She was very pretty and had a radiant smile. She was sitting on the upper floor smiling at me on the ground floor with such force that I had no choice but to invite her down. She was very bubbly so I took her home. That's when I discovered she had the smelliest pussy ever. It was even worse than the super sexy Indonesian stripper dancer from Maliboro that I wrote a few FRs about. Jovilyn's stench was so bad it actually made me throw up. And that was from a short distance away. What a waste of 3000 pesos and a decent meal. You might want to employ a scratch and sniff test before settling the deal.

Analyn I remember for better reasons. 19 and super super super sexy. Man I felt like a teenager all over again. Although it is nearer to say I was feeling a teenager all over. I took her to the beach for a few days. I wish I'd banned her phone because she was always on it. She was HOT. But boring. But still hot. No conversation in her but hot. Definitely hot.

If I'd been 10 seconds earlier in the bar when I first met her I would have had her equally sexy 19 year old friend come along too. But a group of Koreans got there first. Analyn's hot friend looked very disappointed and was waving at me pleading. But the Koreans hired her and a couple of others within minutes. I don't blame them for being quick before someone else jumped in. You know how inconsiderate other customers are.

Oh I don't know whether Analyn was a good dancer or not. But she was hot standing still. So I'm sure she would have been hotter still moving. Thinking about it she was hotter still moving. Being a perfect gentleman I always let her go up the stairs before me in those tight tight jeans. I was protecting her honor by blocking the view of others trying to ogle her. You know all the tourists in the PI are perverts.

That reminds me. Lollipop girl took me to Club Ra. She was groped in the elevator by some drunken young Indian guy. His friends with him were immediately very apologetic and very gentlemanly about it. He was too much of a dick to say sorry but his friends did their best. But Lollipop lady's mood was very down all night after that and I couldn't salvage the evening. Ruined our night. Club Ra dancers were crap as well. In fact we went to about a dozen bars but only Dollhouse pole dancer was worth watching.

Another night there was a good dancer at Eruptions that didn't come home with me. I don't remember her name but lets call her Lyn. I didn't actually ask about taking her home. But I got the vibe that she wanted to go home to her child.

I hope that's helped answer your question. Yes good dancers if you can find any in Angeles should be good in bed. Or on the bed and definitely on the sofa. Or hire a party room at the ABC and use the stage with a pole. Or go completely nuts and try out the girl on the stage in one of the bars. It'll save you the hassle of getting back to the hotel to find out whether she horizontally rumbas well or smells bad. Please try it on stage. As the ABC says You only live once. We all love it on ISG when someone posts a report from a newspaper.

Mr Enternational
08-18-19, 23:08
I don't remember her name but it was probably Lyn something or something Lyn.

Every girl in the PI I spoke to that trip seemed be called some form of Lyn. It was totally confusing. There was Jocelyn, Jaclyn, Jerrilyn, Evelyn, Analyn, and one just called Lynn for originality.My girlfriend's name is Linette.

As a good Catholic Pinay she should know Luke 3:4-5 says 'EVERY RAVINE WILL BE FILLED. 'It also says the limp shall be made straight.

Being a perfect gentleman I always let her go up the stairs before me in those tight tight jeans. I was protecting her honor by blocking the view of others trying to ogle her. You know all the tourists in the PI are perverts.LOL

PedroMorales
08-18-19, 23:23
I think so..Super report below. This guy rocks.

Sidtip
08-19-19, 01:41
I accept my laziness from uploading the experience I earn from visits. I am not clarifying my side. But after coming back from a trip the workload will be accumulated in my home town. After two weeks I became lazy to recollect things and upload. I admit it.

Will definitely upload experiences from next trip onwards friend.

Regards.Surely you still remember a few useful things now. Where did you find the hottest girls were. I am planning a trip and would love your advice.

PilotPaul
08-19-19, 04:43
I think the high class post was written as a joke. It is just a club to go pick up hookers. I go there in shorts and flip flops. It is not suggested that you can get girls for 1500. That is a fact. I have never given a chick from High Society more than 1500 for LT. Inside is no different than outside. People go in and out constantly. You will see it and wonder why you wasted your brain thinking about this.I recall from OT in Singapore that the outside girls had for some reason been banned from entry o Orchard Towers or specifically Ipanema. So I was inclined to think that girls immediately outside Hi-So must have a reason why they cannot go inside.

Jimmy Boy 99
08-19-19, 15:43
Snip. The reports above paint 2 very different pictures. A high class club or bottom of the barrel dive.

Yeah I know, I will just have to go and see for myself.I think ED's sarcasm was pretty obvious.

Chocha Monger
08-20-19, 02:44
I remember Jovilyn was an Atlantean spotlight dancer. I don't know that I saw her dance though. She was very pretty and had a radiant smile. She was sitting on the upper floor smiling at me on the ground floor with such force that I had no choice but to invite her down. She was very bubbly so I took her home. That's when I discovered she had the smelliest pussy ever. It was even worse than the super sexy Indonesian stripper dancer from Maliboro that I wrote a few FRs about. Jovilyn's stench was so bad it actually made me throw up. And that was from a short distance away. What a waste of 3000 pesos and a decent meal. You might want to employ a scratch and sniff test before settling the deal.Alas, Jovilyn's stinky snatch problem is a very common one in Angeles City. Once, the forum went around and around debating the various causes of vaginal stench. There was some concensus that the stink is largely due to the large volume of bareback with cum-in-pussy occurring routinely with bar girls. Apparently, their pussies become filled with dead sperms from various mongers and the decomposing sperm produces the awful stench.

Some mongers just jack off in the girl's mouth, as a means of salvaging a portion of their 3,000 pesos and their regurgitated dinner. A more sophisticated senior monger mentioned that he uses a ginger test on the girls to detect any stinky surprises before cunnilingus. However, he failed to elaborate further on what exactly the ginger test entails.

A rule of thumb to go by is that the prettier sexier girls in the bars are filled up more frequently with more sperms from many more mongers than their homely sisters. Therefore, they are more apt to harbor a stench down under. Perhaps, the ugly fat ones are not as easy on the eyes but are much easier on the nostrils.

Bugzy 69
08-20-19, 11:32
Obviously it's sarcasm at it's best, the club in non other than a large warehouse with a dance floor. Forgot to mention as well that for us gringos dressed in baggy Bermudas, singha beer sleeveless tops and sandals there is an entrance fee of 250 pesos on Fridays & Saturdays for this magnificent state of the art nightclub.


I think ED's sarcasm was pretty obvious.

Charles Dickin
08-20-19, 13:20
Surely you still remember a few useful things now. Where did you find the hottest girls were. I am planning a trip and would love your advice.Sidtip here's some info if it helps. But the girls move around. Come and go as it were.

In my cases this info is up to 4 years old. I didn't find nearly all girls that hot. Super super hot Analyn was from Stardust. Smellylyn was from Atlantis. Slimlyn was from Lollipop. And the petite busty one was from a bar near Voodoo but can't remember where. It was that kind of day / night. I know I was in Voodoo first because I arrived at 4 am without a hotel and it was the only 24 hour bar. I vaguely remember a generous guy bought everyone a round of drinks. I don't know what it was but it was small and powerful. That with the lack of food and sleep made the rest of the day a bit hazy.

One afternoon I also saw a petite sex kitten in one of the perimeter bars. Either Candy bar or one near. May be Dept 5 may be not. I went to a number. It wasn't fire pit because they were no way petite. I remember fire pit because I got injured. One girl on stage decided one of her team mates needed a man desperately. She stood behind the non dancing girl and gave her a huge shove off of the stage right into me. I got a cut lip and a few bruises because I had my glass to my mouth at the time of impact.

Wherever the sexy slim Perimeterlynn was from she was just back from a date. I didn't want the silver medal for coming in second. Same bar had another lady with very very beautiful eyes. She very bubbly but too big all round for my taste and too many big tattoos. But if you like that look then I think she would have been wonderful. She said she likes customers with big tattoos. I don't think that was euphemism.

But what one guy thinks is hot another might not. You have to go look for yourself. You could try a pool party event at one of the hotels to see ladies from many bars at once. I never been to one because the advertising wasn't very good and I couldn't figure out what days were events. I tried online but that was useless. Everything is misinformation and lies even opening times. But there are videos of pool parties online. But there don't seem to be many ladies in a party. But they are typical of the body type. Better if you go to the bars.

Remember the more you spend the friendlier they get. The more you drink the hotter they look. Or if you don't drink then the darker the lights the better you imagine them.

But looks ain't everything. From reading the whole forum it seems that more looks usually means less service. Maybe sometimes you do find someone with both. But I'm sure people don't post detailed reports on current girls like that because they'll want to keep her secret.

Some reports suggest Makati is better for hotter so maybe go there. If you don't care about nationality then fly from Clark to the Macau saunas. Lots of pretty ladies there. They must be hot because the price is so high. Everyone knows if something is expensive it must be good.

Genuine good luck wish on the hottie hunt.

Charles Dickin
08-20-19, 13:25
My girlfriend's name is Linette.
Should've seen that one coming.


It also says the limp shall be made straight.
Yes. That happened. She definitely stopped any limpness. Maybe she was called Miraclynn or Ephianylynn or Hallelynnujah.

I got confused with all the names. I see now why they always call us darling.

Mr Enternational
08-20-19, 21:21
Should've seen that one coming.

Yes. That happened. She definitely stopped any limpness. Maybe she was called Miraclynn or Ephianylynn or Hallelynnujah.

I got confused with all the names. I see now why they always call us darling.LOL. And why I never bother to ask names. Although some board members consider it disrespectful, I consider it disingenuous to pretend that I am interested in something that I am not.

Mr Enternational
08-20-19, 21:31
Where did you find the hottest girls were. I am planning a trip and would love your advice.Why do people ask this? So you are only planning to walk inside of places that you have been told have the hottest girls? Can't walk into that place over there because nobody mentioned it as having hot girls. Nevermind that nobody here knows your definition of what a hot girl is. Go there and explore then report back to the board where the hottest girls are.

Pute Nut
08-23-19, 02:32
1500 maybe the low ball figure quoted early am when they are drunk and need a place to crash.Sounds highball to me. Maybe you look richer than me. My drunk late night crash quotes have been more like 1100-1200.

Niteluvr
08-23-19, 03:05
"HI-SO title makes you think you'are hitting the likes of IBAR in Pattaya haha, OK there are freelancers but it's the lowest of quality I guess. Most of them come in pairs so it's the only exciting thing about a short time thingy. Girls in here don't even have an idea on appearance, even saw a few in fil-flops & tracksuits, even some with missing teeth so I compare it to the level of working ladies along Pattaya beach coconut bar. ".

Now I have watched YouTube videos and read reports. Apparently it is suggested you can get girls inside for 1500, waiting outside 1000. To me quality is subjective. The reports above paint 2 very different pictures. A high class club or bottom of the barrel dive.

Yeah I know, I will just have to go and see for myself.During my short 2 weeks in the Phils, I never once laid eyes on anything I would consider close to a "10" at HiSo or elsewhere. Any "10" (any country) is a disappointment in terms of ROI in my experience. It's usually the girls in the 7-8 range that are the best fuck for the buck, so I target them.

Case in point: Recently there was a 38 yo Filipina in my city who contacted me on a social dating site. Nothing to brag about in terms of looks (a 6 at best), but we met up at a Starbucks and had nice convo. She's extremely intelligent and it shows. Speaks English flawlessly, as well as French, German, Italian and Arabic. Not a poor girl from the province. After the 3rd outing, she spent the night at my house. She claims she had never been with a foreigner, smelled great, was tight, no baby damage and she got me to bust twice in the evening and once in the morning, which I hadn't done in quite a while. She acted very shy and was mechanical, so it took a while to get her comfy with lots of pussy licking and such. The GFE part was that she's very intelligent and intelligent ladies turn me on.

Sammon
08-23-19, 04:22
During my short 2 weeks in the Phils, I never once laid eyes on anything I would consider close to a "10" at HiSo or elsewhere. Any "10" (any country) is a disappointment in terms of ROI in my experience. It's usually the girls in the 7-8 range that are the best fuck for the buck, so I target them.

Case in point: Recently there was a 38 yo Filipina in my city who contacted me on a social dating site. Nothing to brag about in terms of looks (a 6 at best), but we met up at a Starbucks and had nice convo. She's extremely intelligent and it shows. Speaks English flawlessly, as well as French, German, Italian and Arabic. Not a poor girl from the province. After the 3rd outing, she spent the night at my house. She claims she had never been with a foreigner, smelled great, was tight, no baby damage and she got me to bust twice in the evening and once in the morning, which I hadn't done in quite a while. She acted very shy and was mechanical, so it took a while to get her comfy with lots of pussy licking and such. The GFE part was that she's very intelligent and intelligent ladies turn me on.Looks does not equate to good satisfying sex. Although I can target old ladies who are easy to find I take pleasure in finding young 18-24 who are also good in sex. Besides it gives a satisfaction when you feel young. Fun to be with young tight bodies.

PedroMorales
08-23-19, 07:57
Recently there was a 38 yo Filipina in my city who Speaks English flawlessly, as well as French, German, Italian and Arabic. Not a poor girl from the province. She claims she had never been with a foreigner, .I wonder if the Spanish, French, German, Iralian and Arab guys who had previously bonked her found her a good convserationalist as well and how much they paid her?

MrHappyKat
08-23-19, 19:41
I'm planning on visiting Manila next spring and doing my research now. I just saw this vid posted on a travel blog about recent action to clean up Freelance Park and remove freelancers and street vendors from Walking Street. Can anyone confirm?

And what do the vets here think this means for the area?

Here's the vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDv-iGPm9xU

Mr Enternational
08-23-19, 21:41
I just saw this vid posted on a travel blog about recent action to clean up Freelance Park and remove freelancers and street vendors from Walking Street. Can anyone confirm?

And what do the vets here think this means for the area?Some guys just won't give in that the game has moved to the web. If you have a couple of websites and an internet connection then it means nothing. The only guys complaining are the ones that are still holding on to their horse and buggy when everybody else is riding in a Tesla.

PedroMorales
08-23-19, 22:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDv-iGPm9xU.The guy repeats himself again and again. He finished it with his real agenda: freelancers are diseased and you might pass on their diseases. Giys like this and their paid Pinay side kicks are a pain.

The vendors and hookers have to live. You will find them there if you look. The long term trend is for a cleaner place to get more Koreans. Take your choice. I'll be back later in the year, slumming around, hiring the most fallen of the fallen women, and giving Angeles, Koreans and bored American (s) expats a wide berth.

Goferring
08-23-19, 23:46
I wonder if the Spanish, French, German, Iralian and Arab guys who had previously bonked her found her a good convserationalist as well and how much they paid her?I know a girl in Sabang who is fluent in Japanese, Korean and is now getting Mandarin and Hokien lessons 3 or 4 nights a week.

She said she has never been with an Asian guy but told me she prefers fat Australians. Me, I'm not too sure. 😉.

Naked Gunz
08-24-19, 01:20
Surely you still remember a few useful things now. Where did you find the hottest girls were. I am planning a trip and would love your advice.It ain't going to be that easy my friend, you will have to work for it like everybody else. If you want to be truly lazy, then just join Tinder, or an Asian site, then pic from the hottest pics.

Sidtip
08-24-19, 07:12
Why do people ask this? So you are only planning to walk inside of places that you have been told have the hottest girls? Can't walk into that place over there because nobody mentioned it as having hot girls. Nevermind that nobody here knows your definition of what a hot girl is. Go there and explore then report back to the board where the hottest girls are.Dude,

That was a sarcastic response to an earlier post. Follow the thread and you will work it out. Got to go now. This girl has the wettest mouth.

Blanquiceleste
08-24-19, 11:51
Just back after a week in AC. Stayed at Lewis Grand as usual, and I seriously think the place needs some love and investments. That said, it is still among the top 3 places to stay in AC.

Picked up girls from Walking Street bars and Perimeter Road bars. I must have walked in and out of almost every single bar, starting from the K-oriented bars next to Clarkton Hotel all the way to the ones next to McDonald's at the end of Walking Street. Some got my money for a drink or two, several did not.

Barfines range from 1800 pesos (Brass Knob) all the way to 3600 pesos (Xanadu, aka Club Ra). But the average is around 3000 pesos at Walking Street and around 2500 pesos at Perimeter. Girls in some of the K-oriented bars give zero fucks about customers in the bar. They are sitting on the stage, some even lying down, all of them on their phones. Disgusting. I picked girls from the following bars. Salambo, Det5, Ponytails, Xanadu, Champagne, Babydolls, Night Moves and QBar. Repeated a girl from Salambo who was the best performer on this trip. All the girls who I picked at night stayed well into the day (closer to noon), absolutely no hassles about performance or time and made no demands for tips, only graciously accepted what I gave them. The afternoon picks stayed for a good 3-4 hours, never once complaining about the time or number of pops.

Ate at Patchawaran (now called Patches) twice, once at Yu Fu In, and brought in Delio's Chicken Line twice. Rest from hotel room service. AC is still a great place to have fun if you don't mind the legwork and if you are not stuck up. Girls are simple and they will show you a great time if you treat them a bit nicely.

PilotPaul
08-24-19, 12:33
I am interested to know what people think of Ice Bar on Perimeter.

As a Perimeter regular I have never quite felt comfortable there but it does seem to be popular with some clientele.

Lou32
08-24-19, 22:27
Great report. Glad to see the runners have left town. Too bad the prices have gone up so much.


Just back after a week in AC. Stayed at Lewis Grand as usual, and I seriously think the place needs some love and investments. That said, it is still among the top 3 places to stay in AC.

Picked up girls from Walking Street bars and Perimeter Road bars. I must have walked in and out of almost every single bar, starting from the K-oriented bars next to Clarkton Hotel all the way to the ones next to McDonald's at the end of Walking Street. Some got my money for a drink or two, several did not.

Barfines range from 1800 pesos (Brass Knob) all the way to 3600 pesos (Xanadu, aka Club Ra). But the average is around 3000 pesos at Walking Street and around 2500 pesos at Perimeter. Girls in some of the K-oriented bars give zero fucks about customers in the bar. They are sitting on the stage, some even lying down, all of them on their phones. Disgusting. I picked girls from the following bars. Salambo, Det5, Ponytails, Xanadu, Champagne, Babydolls, Night Moves and QBar. Repeated a girl from Salambo who was the best performer on this trip. All the girls who I picked at night stayed well into the day (closer to noon), absolutely no hassles about performance or time and made no demands for tips, only graciously accepted what I gave them. The afternoon picks stayed for a good 3-4 hours, never once complaining about the time or number of pops.

Ate at Patchawaran (now called Patches) twice, once at Yu Fu In, and brought in Delio's Chicken Line twice. Rest from hotel room service. AC is still a great place to have fun if you don't mind the legwork and if you are not stuck up. Girls are simple and they will show you a great time if you treat them a bit nicely.

Member #4698
08-24-19, 22:51
Just back after a week in AC.

Picked up girls from Walking Street bars and Perimeter Road bars. I must have walked in and out of almost every single bar, starting from the K-oriented bars next to Clarkton Hotel all the way to the ones next to McDonald's at the end of Walking Street. Some got my money for a drink or two, several did not.

Barfines range from 1800 pesos (Brass Knob) all the way to 3600 pesos (Xanadu, aka Club Ra). But the average is around 3000 pesos at Walking Street and around 2500 pesos at Perimeter. Girls in some of the K-oriented bars give zero fucks about customers in the bar. They are sitting on the stage, some even lying down, all of them on their phones. Disgusting. I picked girls from the following bars. Salambo, Det5, Ponytails, Xanadu, Champagne, Babydolls, Night Moves and QBar. Repeated a girl from Salambo who was the best performer on this trip. All the girls who I picked at night stayed well into the day (closer to noon), absolutely no hassles about performance or time and made no demands for tips, only graciously accepted what I gave them. The afternoon picks stayed for a good 3-4 hours, never once complaining about the time or number of pops.

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AC is still a great place to have fun if you don't mind the legwork and if you are not stuck up. Girls are simple and they will show you a great time if you treat them a bit nicely.

Great report Blanqui. You get right to crux of the matter and it sounds like you had a good time. I have never been to Salambo. I will add it to my list of AC Bars.

As to legwork: I don't mind a little legwork. I enjoy the hunt, but like you, I don't appreciate girls with bad attitudes that "give zero fucks about customers. " Who does? So, AC seems to have a higher percentage of them than Makati, but I am glad to hear that there are still plenty of nice AC girls to make the trip worthwhile.

Rock On!

Blanquiceleste
08-25-19, 05:48
Great report Blanqui. You get right to crux of the matter and it sounds like you had a good time. I have never been to Salambo. I will add it to my list of AC Bars.

As to legwork: I don't mind a little legwork. I enjoy the hunt, but like you, I don't appreciate girls with bad attitudes that "give zero fucks about customers. " Who does? So, AC seems to have a higher percentage of them than Makati, but I am glad to hear that there are still plenty of nice AC girls to make the trip worthwhile.

Rock On!Thanks Natty. Yes, AC still is a great VFM destination for me. Where else can I think of paying under $100 for an all-nighter with cute 23 yo?

Salambo is owned by a German, and is the only place on WS that serves good German beers both in bottle and on tap. A full pint of Paulaner is 300 pesos, but worth every drop, and so much better than the horse p_i_s_s called SML. The girls there are nothing to shout about honestly, I just got lucky with a really good looking waitress.

Legwork is really the secret to success in AC. And it has to be done everyday. Just because a bar was empty yesterday does not mean it will be empty today. And vice-versa. Case in point is Babydolls on Perimeter. Or Atlantis on WS. Clearly the K-oriented bars are less tightly run, while the Western managed bars are run efficiently. QBar is a good example. Girls don't get WiFi, girls do not have access to their phones while on the floor, or stage or with customers, waitresses cannot sit on chairs or sofas even if the bar is empty, girls get a 10 minute break every 2 hours, etc. Yes, the waitresses and girls hate the manager, but it works brilliantly for customers, like it should.

I have always said this, AC has nice girls who will show you a good time, all you need to do is show them a little empathy and treat them nicely. Start with food, offer them some food. Don't say no if they ask if they can take home the toiletries in your bathroom. If they want a can of coke from your minibar don't say no, but also firmly say. Just one, ok?! Sit and talk to them, waste that 15 minutes of your life in listening to mindless stories of not having enough water to wash clothes on their days off. It all pays back in spades. It always has for me. And tip them well, 200 pesos means nothing for you if you stay at Lewis Grand or ABC. It means the world to the girl.


Great report. Glad to see the runners have left town. Too bad the prices have gone up so much.No sir, you will still find the runners if you worry too much about the prices.

Blanquiceleste
08-25-19, 06:02
I am interested to know what people think of Ice Bar on Perimeter.

As a Perimeter regular I have never quite felt comfortable there but it does seem to be popular with some clientele.Ice Bar can be a decent place. The aircon is good, the place is not stuffy, the pool table is good, they have a smoking area behind the dancing stage and the waitresses are friendly. The girls, sadly are well over the hill, although one can find the odd diamond in the rough here. I have never barfined here in all these years but I always stop by for a drink and a game of pool.

ANewTravler
08-25-19, 07:16
Just back after a week in AC. Stayed at Lewis Grand as usual, and I seriously think the place needs some love and investments. That said, it is still among the top 3 places to stay in AC.

Picked up girls from Walking Street bars and Perimeter Road bars. I must have walked in and out of almost every single bar, starting from the K-oriented bars next to Clarkton Hotel all the way to the ones next to McDonald's at the end of Walking Street. Some got my money for a drink or two, several did not.

Barfines range from 1800 pesos (Brass Knob) all the way to 3600 pesos (Xanadu, aka Club Ra). But the average is around 3000 pesos at Walking Street and around 2500 pesos at Perimeter. Girls in some of the K-oriented bars give zero fucks about customers in the bar. They are sitting on the stage, some even lying down, all of them on their phones. Disgusting. I picked girls from the following bars. Salambo, Det5, Ponytails, Xanadu, Champagne, Babydolls, Night Moves and QBar. Repeated a girl from Salambo who was the best performer on this trip. All the girls who I picked at night stayed well into the day (closer to noon), absolutely no hassles about performance or time and made no demands for tips, only graciously accepted what I gave them. The afternoon picks stayed for a good 3-4 hours, never once complaining about the time or number of pops.

Ate at Patchawaran (now called Patches) twice, once at Yu Fu In, and brought in Delio's Chicken Line twice. Rest from hotel room service. AC is still a great place to have fun if you don't mind the legwork and if you are not stuck up. Girls are simple and they will show you a great time if you treat them a bit nicely.Nice report,

Looks like you had a great time, the price has not changed since I have been there in 2017.

Maybe it is time to plan something for Angeles.

PilotPaul
08-25-19, 12:20
Picked up girls from Walking Street bars and Perimeter Road bars. I must have walked in and out of almost every single bar, starting from the K-oriented bars next to Clarkton Hotel all the way to the ones next to McDonald's at the end of Walking Street. Some got my money for a drink or two, several did not.The K bars have a different market and maybe would be a different experience for the Koreans.

D Cups
08-27-19, 13:29
If any of you old horndogs are in AC on Sep 21 come to Scorebirds bikini contest and introduce yourself to me. I'm the dude with the long hair hopefully flanked by two of the AC's bustiest. San Mig's on me. When I'm 64 so say the Beatles! Cheers!

Dg8787
08-27-19, 17:25
If any of you old horndogs are in AC on Sep 21 come to Scorebirds bikini contest and introduce yourself to me. I'm the dude with the long hair hopefully flanked by two of the AC's bustiest. San Mig's on me. When I'm 64 so say the Beatles! Cheers!How about buying me a couple bar fines? I am not coming unless.

LOL. Happy Birthday.

Goferring
08-27-19, 21:08
How about buying me a couple bar fines? I am not coming unless.

LOL. Happy Birthday.I'm sure there will be a debris field of less endowed cast offs that others can choose from. 😁 😋.

Happy Birthday DC. G.

Kazeu
08-27-19, 23:40
Great report Blanqui. You get right to crux of the matter and it sounds like you had a good time. I have never been to Salambo. I will add it to my list of AC Bars.

As to legwork: I don't mind a little legwork. I enjoy the hunt, but like you, I don't appreciate girls with bad attitudes that "give zero fucks about customers. " Who does? So, AC seems to have a higher percentage of them than Makati, but I am glad to hear that there are still plenty of nice AC girls to make the trip worthwhile.

Rock On!They just don't particularly care about you. I have pretty good feeling you are not Korean.

Sammon
08-28-19, 00:09
If any of you old horndogs are in AC on Sep 21 come to Scorebirds bikini contest and introduce yourself to me. I'm the dude with the long hair hopefully flanked by two of the AC's bustiest. San Mig's on me. When I'm 64 so say the Beatles! Cheers!Hope you do not suffocate and collapse handing big big boobs on your face. Happy birthday! Enjoy!

Member #4698
08-28-19, 00:34
They just don't particularly care about you. I have pretty good feeling you are not Korean.So, you think I am not a Korean. HA HA. Maybe, but I am still not sure what you are saying. Are you saying I am not a customer? Or that I am not a customer of the preferred ethnic group? Or that it is strictly personal ie that girls in certain AC bars who BTW are not very attractive "don't particularly care about" me? LOL. Look Kazeu, we are talking about a service industry; prostitution, and the girls that have decided for one reason or another to work in that industry, usually because they are very poor, have babies at home with no BF or husband to support them, or because they are trying to support their family, or pay off a large debt.

Here is the point of this post: it is in a bar girl's interest to service her customers or potential customers and do it the best she can. The successful girls generate repeat business, large tips, and are in high demand. They can make $5,000/ month or more from hooking out of a bar. Sadly, many AC bar girls barely make enough, especially in low season, to meet their expenses. Have you ever visited one of the dormitories where some of these girls live? 20 girls in a room with 1 fan & 1 window? I have. It is very depressing. So it makes absolutely no sense, as Blanquiceleste posted and as it has been observed by many others on these boards and elsewhere, that some "girls in some of the K-oriented bars give zero fucks about customers in the bar. They are sitting on the stage, some even lying down, all of them on their phones." So, I agree with the observation and the logic that criticizes it because I have seen it in certain AC bars and because I have very rarely seen that behavior elsewhere. My conclusion is that I think it's pretty stupid and counterproductive behavior on the part of the girls. I also think it is a sign of a very badly run business to allow their girls (employees) to act in such a childish, foolish way merely because the girls don't know any better. It is just bad business practice if the purpose of running a business is to maximize profits. It is also very counterproductive behavior for the girls to engage in. Yeah, I get it; they are bored and they don't like their job. So What!

By comparison just head over to Burgos Street or the EDSA Entertainment Complex in MNL to see how well trained, more sophisticated, professional, big city girls conduct themselves under proper management and with the right attitude. You will see that what Blanquiceleste and I are talking about is a rather unique situation that has developed slowly over time in a number of AC Bars that are run by a specific ethnic group and seem to cater solely to that same ethnic group almost exclusively. If some of these ethnic customer types like it this way, then I say they can have it. HA HA. Incidentally, I don't think very highly about many of the Koreans I see. Many are fools. In any case, this leaves the nicer, friendlier, let's get it on girls for me to choose from in the better bars in AC and MNL where I and other discerning mongers of any nationality including Koreans prefer to spend our time & money. That's Discrimination Theory 101.

Kazeu
08-28-19, 01:26
I'm saying that they would probably would have given you more attention if you are korean. There for I assumed that you were not korean. Am I wrong on this point? Are you actually korean or of korean looking descent?

I don't think we disagree on most points. I think its sucks as much as you. But its pretty clear to me. Koreans are the top tier choice for these girls.

I guess they don't agree with you that servicing all potential customers equally is a good business strategy. Theres a factors at play here and I've written about it in the past. Koreans have a reputation for paying well and not having much sex. Their caucasian counterparts have the opposite reputation, they want to have a lot of sex and tend to be cheap. That's one issue. The other issue is that Koreans are racist in general. They consider themselves above others generally and don't want others spoiling their women and thus managers may discourage the girls from going with any other races. I'm not saying this happens at all the bars by all the managers. But that's the general idea.

I'm not saying that I like any of this. To me the korean invasion was the start of the downfall of angeles for me, but I still have a good time, I just don't barfine all that often and less likely so from korean oriented bars, even though I sometimes pass for korean.

The difference in attitude between Makati / Burgos is stark, but so is the difference in price. I'm more of a cheapie charlie myself, so I haven't been there in a while, but from what I've been readin on the boards, its somewhere around 3 k to the bar and 3 k to the girl in Burgos. I imagine if you walked into any of the bars and declared you were willing to part with 6 k for a girl, you'd get quite a bit of attentiveness. To be honest, if I had money I wouldn't go to angeles, I'd stay in Makati too and pull girls from Burgos. I don't think anyone of us is in Angeles for the culture of Clark Airfield Base or Walking street. Cheap barfines. That's what I'm there for.


So, you think I am not a Korean. HA HA. Maybe, but I am still not sure what you are saying. Are you saying I am not a customer? Or that I am not a customer of the preferred ethnic group? Or that it is strictly personal ie that certain girls in certain AC bars whom are not even very attractive "don't particularly care about" me? LOL. Look Kazeu, we are talking about a service industry; prostitution, and the girls that have decided for one reason or another to work in that industry, usually because they are very poor, have babies at home with no BF or husband to support them, or because they are trying to support their family, or pay off a large debt.

Here is my main point: it is in a bar girl's interest to service their customers or potential customers and do it the best they can. The successful girls generate repeat business, large tips, and are in high demand. They can make $5,000/ month or more just from hooking. Sadly, many AC bar girls barely make enough, especially in low season, meet their expenses. Have you ever visited one of the dormitories where some of these girls live - 20 girls in a room? I have. So it makes absolutely no sense as Blanquiceleste posted and as it has been observed by many others on these boards and elsewhere that "girls in some of the K-oriented bars give zero fucks about customers in the bar. They are sitting on the stage, some even lying down, all of them on their phones." I agree with that observation because I have seen it in certain AC bars, but I have very rarely seen that behavior elsewhere. My conclusion is that I think it's pretty stupid and counterproductive behavior on the part of the girls. I also think it is a sign of a very badly run business to allow their girls to act in such a childish, foolish way merely because the girls don't know any better. It is just bad business if the purpose of running a business is to maximize profits. It is also very counterproductive behavior for the girls.

By comparison just head over to Burgos Street or the EDSA Entertainment Complex in MNL to see how well trained, more sophisticated, professional, big city girls conduct themselves under proper management and with the right attitude. So what Blanquiceleste and I are talking about is a rather unique situation that has developed slowly over time in a number of AC Bars that are run by a specific ethnic group and seem to cater to that same ethnic group almost exclusively. If some of these ethnic customers like it this way, then I say they can have it. HA HA. It leaves the nicer, let's get it on girls for me to choose from in the good bars where I and other discerning mongers of any nationality prefer to spend our money. That's Discrimination Theory 101.

Golfinho
08-28-19, 01:26
Have you ever visited one of the dormitories where some of these girls live - 20 girls in a room? I have. It is very depressing.Have you ever visited one of the homes in Samar where some of these girls lived whole extended family in a room? I have. Are dormitories more depressing than that?

Kazeu
08-28-19, 01:41
6. Higher bar fines. I feel like an old man saying this. But "I remember when. " the bar fines on walking street were 1800! And it really wasn't that long ago.

5. Korean restaurants opening instead of bars. Sometimes I feel like for every 2 bars that close, 1 korean restaurant opens. I rarely see new bars open, just close and name changes every few years.

4. Horrible K-Pop music all night in Skytrax. If its not K-Pop its see-Pop. Thank god for high society.

3. Seeing Koreans making it rain 20 pesos bills in the Atlantis. My god that's a perfectly good barfine there. I don't think I've seen this done by anyone else but koreans.

2. Korean vans. They come. They look. They take all the good looking girls. And they're gone before you can say "Oppaaaaaa".

1. Rejection at the Korean only bars.

I wanted to list 10, but couldn't think of any more. So it can't be all that bad I guess. ¯\12484_ Enjoy!

On the other hand:

1. Korean food is actually pretty good.

Member #4698
08-28-19, 01:50
I don't think we disagree on most points. I think its sucks as much as you. But its pretty clear to me. Koreans are the top tier choice for these girls.

I guess they don't agree with you that servicing all potential customers equally is a good business strategy. Theres a factors at play here and I've written about it in the past. Koreans have a reputation for paying well and not having much sex. Their caucasian counterparts have the opposite reputation, they want to have a lot of sex and tend to be cheap. That's one issue. The other issue is that Koreans are racist in general. They consider themselves above others generally and don't want others spoiling their women and thus managers may discourage the girls from going with any other races. I'm not saying this happens at all the bars by all the managers. But that's the general idea.

I agree with you that some girls have these stereotypes in mind and more importantly certain bars encourage this racial thinking, but what I am saying is that the smart girls know the truth that some Koreans can have a large dicks and last 60 minutes and some Westerners can have small dicks and last 3 minutes. A smart hooker knows that the only thing that matters is money. So if a lone Anglo customer walks into a Perimeter bar in the afternoon, a smart girl will get off her ass and focus her attentions on him. Time is money and a Farang bird in the hand is worth more than 2 Korean birds in the bush.

I also agree with your observation that some Koreans are racist. Some are pigs IMHO. Ha Ha. But the same goes for Farangs. I have been in plenty of bars and bordellos all over SE Asia where a truce is in effect and all groups can come to find the girls that they like, party, drink, and the girls do not discriminate because money is what counts. I guess the key to this is having the right kind of management.

Good points # 1, 2, 3, & 5. There is nothing we can do about #6 and I have gotten so use to #4 hearing lousy music in honky tonks that I no longer pay attention to it. Korean food IS pretty good, but I prefer Thai, Indonesian, Indian, Chinese, and Japanese cuisine. LOL. Some Korean girls are very attractive too. I have had the pleasure of doing a few in Macau. They were very expensive, but very, very sexy too.

Rock on!

Dg8787
08-28-19, 01:54
6. Higher bar fines. I feel like an old man saying this. But "I remember when. " the bar fines on walking street were 1800! And it really wasn't that long ago.

5. Korean restaurants opening instead of bars. Sometimes I feel like for every 2 bars that close, 1 korean restaurant opens. I rarely see new bars open, just close and name changes every few years.

4. Horrible K-Pop music all night in Skytrax. If its not K-Pop its see-Pop. Thank god for high society.

3. Seeing Koreans making it rain 20 pesos bills in the Atlantis. My god that's a perfectly good barfine there. I don't think I've seen this done by anyone else but koreans.

2. Korean vans. They come. They look. They take all the good looking girls. And they're gone before you can say "Oppaaaaaa".

1. Rejection at the Korean only bars.

I wanted to list 10, but couldn't think of any more. So it can't be all that bad I guess. \12484_ Enjoy!

On the other hand:

1. Korean food is actually pretty good.A. The only thing constant is change.

GreenBud
08-28-19, 03:36
- IMO, Koreans do not tip more than the average tourist. Why do guys think that? Because the popular girls at the large bars reject them?

- Many of the Koreans are on the young side. Millennials are the worst tippers. They probably make less than the average tourist. Koreans are the worst tippers at the bars; ask any waitress.

- I talk to many of the girls. I ask them why they prefer Koreans. They never say it's because of the extra tips. If it was about the extra tips, then wouldn't the girls ask how much extra tip the monger will give? Most of the girls do not discuss tips with the customer.

- One of the most common answer is because they relate to the Koreans more, similar culture, etc. Maybe it's because a lot of the Koreans are young. They also agree that sex is easier with the Koreans. Koreans usually like straight sex. Koreans usually do not ask for BJs, lesbian shows, or any of the other stuff I like. LOL!

- Girls like it when they go eating and drinking with the Koreans. The girls always laugh at the 3 3 3 joke.


Where else can I think of paying under $100 for an all-nighter with cute 23 yo?

Colombia!

Kazeu
08-28-19, 03:49
- IMO, Koreans do not tip more than the average tourist. Why do guys think that? Because the popular girls reject them?

- Many of the Koreans are on the young side. Millennials are the worst tippers. They probably make less than the average tourist. Koreans are the worst tippers at the bars; ask any waitress.

- I talk to many of the girls. I ask them why they prefer Koreans. They never say it's because of the extra tips. If it was about the extra tips, then wouldn't the girls ask how much extra tip the monger will give? Most of the girls do not discuss tips with the customer.

- One of the most common answer is because they relate to the Koreans more, similar culture, etc. Maybe it's because a lot of the Koreans are young. They also agree that sex is easier with the Koreans. Koreans usually like straight sex. Koreans usually do not ask for BJs, lesbian shows, or any of the other stuff I like. LOL!

- Girls like it when they go eating and drinking with the Koreans. The girls always laugh at the 3 3 3 joke.I don't know how much you tip, but they tip more than me. I've heard its quite common for Koreans to tip a girl 1 k. Agreed they are shitty tippers at restaurants. Restaurant tipping is not part of their culture. That's something I actually agree with.

Millenials may make less than the average tourist, but they're most likely in angeles for a much shorter time then westerners. They're a 4 hour flight away. They can come for a long weekend and blow all they're money in a few days. Westerners are flyign 15 to 20 hours and probably staying 2 or 3 weeks in the Philippines to make the long flight worth while. The spending patterns are different.

Girls are shy talking about money. Most of these girls don't consider themselves prostitutes. They won't ask about extra tips. But they know koreans pay more. I don't think Korean culture and Filipino cultures are not very similar at all. I'm not sure why you would think that. The big thing is the money. Koreans pay more, but caucasians speak english. Thats the complaint I always hear about Koreans, its hard to communicate with them. Girls get bored sitting around while their guy drinks and talks in Korean to all his buddies.

Sxxxx
08-28-19, 04:03
- IMO, Koreans do not tip more than the average tourist. Why do guys think that? Because the popular girls at the large bars reject them?

- Many of the Koreans are on the young side. Millennials are the worst tippers. They probably make less than the average tourist. Koreans are the worst tippers at the bars; ask any waitress.

- I talk to many of the girls. I ask them why they prefer Koreans. They never say it's because of the extra tips. If it was about the extra tips, then wouldn't the girls ask how much extra tip the monger will give? Most of the girls do not discuss tips with the customer.

- One of the most common answer is because they relate to the Koreans more, similar culture, etc. Maybe it's because a lot of the Koreans are young. They also agree that sex is easier with the Koreans. Koreans usually like straight sex. Koreans usually do not ask for BJs, lesbian shows, or any of the other stuff I like. LOL!

- Girls like it when they go eating and drinking with the Koreans. The girls always laugh at the 3 3 3 joke.At last, someone who has got it right / correct re Koreans.

Its got nothing to do with paying more, its because of the relevant facts pointed out in the post above, viz, "Young" , "sex easier" , "relate to Koreans" (Asians, flips SE Asians), eating and drinking ie "socialise". Hard core pounding for the same money with relatively overweight guys old enough to be their Daddy / Grandpa? No, not if the girls can avoid it. The more attractive girls have choice, and naturally choose the easier way to earn the same money. Koreans.

GreenBud is the first one I have seen who understands why the K's get the pretty ones.

But are the prettier ones, a better fuck? That is the question. I doubt it.

GreenBud
08-28-19, 04:11
I don't know how much you tip, but they tip more than me.I usually tip 500 pesos; they always leave before 2 am. The girls always seem to be happy with it. Yes, I know some people will say that is too much. But, oh well. That gift of the extra tip makes me feel good. Sorry Mr. E.


I don't think Korean culture and Filipino cultures are not very similar at all. I'm not sure why you would think that.The girls all say they love Korean soap operas, K-Pop, and Korean food. Main thing is the family. People write that you marry into the family when you marry a Pinay. Same cultural thing with the Koreans. Besides that, I guess I'm not too familiar with the cultural similarities / differences.


The big thing is the money. Koreans pay more,I didn't get that feedback. But I didn't do the double blind study.

Kazeu
08-28-19, 04:21
I usually tip 500 pesos; always short time; they always leave before 2 am. The girls always seem to be happy with it. Yes, I know some people will say that is too much. But, oh well. That gift of the extra tip makes me feel good. Sorry Mr. E.

The girls all say they love Korean soap operas, K-Pop, and Korean food. Main thing is the family. People write that you marry into the family when you marry a Pinay. Same cultural thing with the Koreans. Besides that, I guess I'm not too familiar with the cultural similarities / differences.

I didn't get that feedback. But I didn't do the double blind study.Sounds like you tip pretty well. I will tip 500 after a long time. If they were good. 200 after short time if they are good. My short time is pretty short. Often under an hour. I don't want some girl sticking around for longer than she needs to. I agree with MR E. That you are tipping too much, but whatever, its your money, spend it on what you will if it makes you happy.

I didn't do a study either. I just go by what I hear and see and also what I know about their culture.

Marrying into family is pretty common among most asian cultures.

Mr Enternational
08-28-19, 05:17
Yes, AC still is a great VFM destination for me. Where else can I think of paying under $100 for an all-nighter with cute 23 yo?Seeing that I have never in my life paid anywhere near $100 for an all nighter with a 23 year old cutie... Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Peru, Ethiopia, Kenya, Madagascar, the list goes on.

SouthEaster
08-28-19, 10:13
Mr. B has no issue with paying over the top, but as he says it's his money. He would also claim that it has no impact on the prices in the local market which may be true if he was the only one doing it. Unfortunately, he is not. The girls in Darlin Darlin wouldn't have dreamed of asking for a hundred bucks until someone started offering it. Now it is standard (or more! The funny thing is he also claims he is subsidising those of us who wish to keep prices a little more sane. Where this twist of logic comes from I have no idea!

I am currently in a country where 12-15 dollars is standard for LT. I am not willing to name it because I want it to stay that way as long as possible before too many one week millionaires come along and fuck it up.

SE.

Engine Driver
08-28-19, 11:58
The K bars have a different market and maybe would be a different experience for the Koreans.As long as the girls strike the pose below every few minutes, the Koreans continue to get spontaneous orgasms. Everyone is happy. Move on. Nothing to see here

John Clayton
08-28-19, 14:32
...I am currently in a country where 12-15 dollars is standard for LT. I am not willing to name it because I want it to stay that way as long as possible before too many one week millionaires come along and fuck it up.

SE.You have to at least post a photo of one of the girls or it's not true.

CzarNicholas
08-28-19, 17:13
At last, someone who has got it right / correct re Koreans.

Its got nothing to do with paying more, its because of the relevant facts pointed out in the post above, viz, "Young" , "sex easier" , "relate to Koreans" (Asians, flips SE Asians), eating and drinking ie "socialise". Hard core pounding for the same money with relatively overweight guys old enough to be their Daddy / Grandpa? No, not if the girls can avoid it. The more attractive girls have choice, and naturally choose the easier way to earn the same money. Koreans.

GreenBud is the first one I have seen who understands why the K's get the pretty ones.

But are the prettier ones, a better fuck? That is the question. I doubt it.You're too funny? While I am 51 yo (I'm sure I can easily pass for 31 or 41) I walked around for almost 120 nights recently up and down walking street, it was pretty rare to see a Korean younger than me.

Most are in their 50's-60's, go by envy where all the vans pick up and drop off, the avg age is probably 60 yo.

On Fri. / Sat I would see 10-15 younger Koreans sitting at the tables that's the only time and only venue.

Once in a while I would be sitting in a bar and a group of 3-4 would walk in look around and leave.

You say the reasons you think they do so well here? OK what about Korean bar owners banning pretty Filipinas from going with anyone but Koreans.

Are you going to say they don't do that in most if not every Korean bar?

Dg8787
08-28-19, 17:20
Seeing that I have never in my life paid anywhere near $100 for an all nighter with a 23 year old cutie... Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Peru, Ethiopia, Kenya, Madagascar, the list goes on.A few weeks ago I paid a favorite 5 k. She bused her way from AC to Pasay the night before I flew home. Stayed LT and well worth it.

Goferring
08-28-19, 20:49
I am currently in a country where 12-15 dollars is standard for LT. I am not willing to name it because I want it to stay that way as long as possible before too many one week millionaires come along and fuck it up.

SE.


You have to at least post a photo of one of the girls or it's not true.I'm with SE on this one. Dude, keep your secret playground to yourself so you can continue to enjoy it. Just agree with everybody and they will leave you alone:

'For $12 you can only get pig ugly girls'.

'Its a fucking nightmare of 18 flights just to get there'.

'The country is incredibly scary and dangerous with axe murdering bandits roaming the street everywhere'.

15 k #sexypina IG models are much more fun and better value.

Voila, your own private island sanctuary for years to come. 😉.

Enjoy. G.

CzarNicholas
08-28-19, 21:06
You're too funny? While I am 51 yo (I'm sure I can easily pass for 31 or 41) I walked around for almost 120 nights recently up and down walking street, it was pretty rare to see a Korean younger than me.

Most are in their 50's-60's, go by envy where all the vans pick up and drop off, the avg age is probably 60 yo.

On Fri. / Sat I would see 10-15 younger Koreans sitting at the tables that's the only time and only venue.

Once in a while I would be sitting in a bar and a group of 3-4 would walk in look around and leave.

You say the reasons you think they do so well here? OK what about Korean bar owners banning pretty Filipinas from going with anyone but Koreans.

Are you going to say they don't do that in most if not every Korean bar?On Fri. / Sat I would see 10-15 younger Koreans sitting at the tables that's the only time and only venue.

NewImage
08-28-19, 22:53
Could someone (if they have the time) publish a list of Korean centred bars so I don't waste my time. I have already decided Perimetre bars are more my style and price range.

Regards.

NI.

CzarNicholas
08-28-19, 23:06
Could someone (if they have the time) publish a list of Korean centred bars so I don't waste my time. I have already decided Perimetre bars are more my style and price range.

Regards.

NI.

Las vegas.

Club asia.

Soya.

Atlantis.

Aura.

Alladin.

Ace.

Camelot.

Club xs.

Badboy.

In my experience.

You can go in any bar they will take as much money as you're willing to spend on drinks.

When you want to BF a girl in a Korean bar, you better hope she's ugly or they will say she has mens or cherry girl or some bullshit.

And be really careful if she says yes, because if its later in the evening she may have done more than one guy already BBFS.

Unless you cum from other guys.

Niteluvr
08-29-19, 03:23
At last, someone who has got it right / correct re Koreans.

Its got nothing to do with paying more, its because of the relevant facts pointed out in the post above, viz, "Young" , "sex easier" , "relate to Koreans" (Asians, flips SE Asians), eating and drinking ie "socialise". Hard core pounding for the same money with relatively overweight guys old enough to be their Daddy / Grandpa? No, not if the girls can avoid it. The more attractive girls have choice, and naturally choose the easier way to earn the same money. Koreans.

GreenBud is the first one I have seen who understands why the K's get the pretty ones.

But are the prettier ones, a better fuck? That is the question. I doubt it.So, what's with the angry bish PM you sent to my team? Damn that auto-forwarding thing.

Chocha Monger
08-29-19, 04:31
At last, someone who has got it right / correct re Koreans.

Its got nothing to do with paying more, its because of the relevant facts pointed out in the post above, viz, "Young" , "sex easier" , "relate to Koreans" (Asians, flips SE Asians), eating and drinking ie "socialise". Hard core pounding for the same money with relatively overweight guys old enough to be their Daddy / Grandpa? No, not if the girls can avoid it. The more attractive girls have choice, and naturally choose the easier way to earn the same money. Koreans.

GreenBud is the first one I have seen who understands why the K's get the pretty ones.

But are the prettier ones, a better fuck? That is the question. I doubt it.Western Grandpa gives a hardcore pounding with Viagra or cock implant, making the girls' pussies very sore. He does not want to stop until they cum multiple times, and then he wants to use his bag of dildos and vibrators on them. The girls find it tiresome and annoying after shuffling for hours on stage in the bars. He is also more likely to want anal than the Koreans with his largish dick. The prettier girls prefer to avoid that sort of heavy usage.

Steve99
08-29-19, 06:07
Mr. B has no issue with paying over the top, but as he says it's his money. He would also claim that it has no impact on the prices in the local market which may be true if he was the only one doing it. Unfortunately, he is not. The girls in Darlin Darlin wouldn't have dreamed of asking for a hundred bucks until someone started offering it. Now it is standard (or more! The funny thing is he also claims he is subsidising those of us who wish to keep prices a little more sane. Where this twist of logic comes from I have no idea!

I am currently in a country where 12-15 dollars is standard for LT. I am not willing to name it because I want it to stay that way as long as possible before too many one week millionaires come along and fuck it up.

SE.You should tell us. It took Pattaya 50 years to become what it is now and it is still very predictable and usable, still value for money vs Europe US and still a mostly nice attitude. Smaller 'unknown' places tend to disappear quicker without money flows from abroad. Angeles is not what it was for us old scrotum white guys due to the proximity and cheap flights available to Koreans. IE a long weekend away. Also I doubt that millions of us mongers even will venture too far off our usual haunts. I like many others often take a smaller or side trip to somewhere more exotic but still prefer Pattaya say for other reasons than just mongering. Eg better hotels with swimming pools, better food, nice atmosphere and more to do. Last year I took a side trip to Laos which was worth it for the tourist bit but would not go there purely for the mongering, its a pretty poor show with poor attitudes, not that cheap either. This year I think I will try Jakarta.

ForkTruck
08-29-19, 06:37
On Fri. / Sat I would see 10-15 younger Koreans sitting at the tables that's the only time and only venue.A Likely reason for seeing young Koreans only on Fri and Sat is that they are working in Korea during the week and do their travel fun on the weekends, Older Korean gentleman can travel during the week so they don't have to compete with the young guns. I noticed this also. If you don't want to also compete come during the week days.

NewImage
08-29-19, 07:25
Could someone (if they have the time) publish a list of Korean centred bars so I don't waste my time. I have already decided Perimetre bars are more my style and price range
Unless you cum from other guys.Thanks for your reply.

PilotPaul
08-29-19, 08:11
Las vegas.
Club asia.
Soya.
Atlantis.
Aura.
Alladin.
Ace.
Camelot.
Club xs.
Badboy.I would add Viking Bar to this list. Korean owned and managed. Korean management is very obvious in running a good ship.

I've always had good girls from here.

PP.

Blanquiceleste
08-29-19, 08:26
Colombia!That is quite true and possibly in other places like Jakarta also, if you follow that thread and read the reports from senior members like OffshoreSwell and MasBule. But those places are not for me, and I have no judgement on those who prefer those places.

I guess I should preface the statement with the fact that I live in Singapore and it would be very inconvenient for me to travel to Latam to monger.

Blanquiceleste
08-29-19, 08:32
But are the prettier ones, a better fuck? That is the question. I doubt it.That is another myth, similar to the ones about Koreans tipping extravagantly. Good sex is an outcome of several other factors. Comfort level with the customer being the primary reason, which is again determined by a number of other factors that have been discussed ad nauseum on this forum.

Blanquiceleste
08-29-19, 08:46
Could someone (if they have the time) publish a list of Korean centred bars so I don't waste my time. I have already decided Perimetre bars are more my style and price range.

Regards.

NI.There are 2 parts (rather 3) to Perimeter Road bars, going East to West.

1. The rash of bars from Angelwitch (just after Philliies) to Emotions (just before Lewis Grand). These are all Western oriented mostly, barring the odd exception.

2. The bars from Night Moves to Platinum or Diamond. These are all Western oriented bars. These are most commonly referred to as Perimeter Road bars.

3. The bars from Orange till the one right next to Clarkton Hotel. These are all Korean oriented bars. These bars also charge a hell lot more for your drink than the average Western oriented bars.

Engine Driver
08-29-19, 11:16
I am currently in a country where 12-15 dollars is standard for LT. I am not willing to name it because I want it to stay that way as long as possible before too many one week millionaires come along and fuck it up.

SE.I know heaps of countries where 12-15 dollars is standard for LT. Bangladesh, Sierra Leone, Gabon, Sudan, Chad, Lesotho, Burundi. You can keep the secret to yourself. Most mongers want running water, toilets that flush and girls who are HIV free. LOL. They probably want to go back home alive as well.

Goferring
08-29-19, 11:56
You can keep the secret to yourself. Most mongers want running water, toilets that flush and girls who are HIV free. LOL. They probably want to go back home alive as well.That rules out 80% of the Philippines.

80% of SEA for that matter. 😁.

D Cups
08-29-19, 13:23
Hope you do not suffocate and collapse handing big big boobs on your face. Happy birthday! Enjoy!Thanks, Sam, G and DG for the well wisher. If I die from boob suffocation it will be a good way to go as long as a third one is gobbling the schwantztooka down to the root!

SouthEaster
08-29-19, 13:49
Glad to hear you are happy in your AC bubble. I imagine you are exactly the sort that wouldn't travel anywhere you could not blow a hundred bucks a night on a hotel room. Good for you. I OTOH am lying on my king size bed as I write this, basking in the air conditioning after my hot shower. Lordy lordy the toilet even flushes! And it costs substantially less than $100.

And the cutie with a great body that just left is no more likely to give me aids than any Filipina or Cambodian you bareback. I won't bore you with the messy financial details.

SE.

Turgid
08-29-19, 17:45
You have to at least post a photo of one of the girls or it's not true.Good try. If he posted a photo of a working girl then we'll be able to tell where the paradise with cheap working girls is.

NewImage
08-29-19, 22:47
There are 2 parts (rather 3) to Perimeter Road bars, going East to West.
1. The rash of bars from Angelwitch (just after Philliies) to Emotions (just before Lewis Grand). These are all Western oriented mostly, barring the odd exception.
2. The bars from Night Moves to Platinum or Diamond. These are all Western oriented bars. These are most commonly referred to as Perimeter Road bars.
3. The bars from Orange till the one right next to Clarkton Hotel. These are all Korean oriented bars. These bars also charge a hell lot more for your drink than the average Western oriented bars.For my maiden trip to A this is well appreciated intel, thanks be.

NI.

Rick Rock
08-30-19, 08:38
That rules out 80% of the Philippines.

80% of SEA for that matter. 😁.I would say 95% of the Philippines, but maybe just 20% of Asia as a whole.

The Philippines is truly one of the worst places on this god forsaken planet, and Angeles City is the anus of it all.

Rick Rock
08-30-19, 08:41
I know heaps of countries where 12-15 dollars is standard for LT. Bangladesh, Sierra Leone, Gabon, Sudan, Chad, Lesotho, Burundi. You can keep the secret to yourself. Most mongers want running water, toilets that flush and girls who are HIV free. LOL. They probably want to go back home alive as well.What if I told you that you can get blowjobs for $30 in "the safest city on earth" (according to the Economist), and blowjobs plus sex from good looking 20 year olds for $36 in "the second safest city on earth" (according to the same source)?

I don't think people care much about conditions or HIV. Thailand is the most popular spot for mongers worldwide. It also has the highest HIV rate in Asia, a rate that is much more comparable with Africa than the rest of the east. The toilets usually flush, but the shit that goes down the pipes comes out on Pattaya beach where tourists really seem to like swimming.

Go figure.

Rick Rock
08-30-19, 08:49
Pattaya ... still value for money vs Europe In Germany you can fuck 20 year old blonde beauties for 50 Euros with free food and drink included. Where is comparable value in Pattaya? There are go go bars on Walking Street charging 3000 Baht barfines, and then making the punters wait until midnight before they can leave with the ladies.

Engine Driver
08-30-19, 09:00
What if I told you that you can get blowjobs for $30 in "the safest city on earth" (according to the Economist), and blowjobs plus sex from good looking 20 year olds for $36 in "the second safest city on earth" (according to the same source)?

I don't think people care much about conditions or HIV. Thailand is the most popular spot for mongers worldwide. It also has the highest HIV rate in Asia, a rate that is much more comparable with Africa than the rest of the east. The toilets usually flush, but the shit that goes down the pipes comes out on Pattaya beach where tourists really seem to like swimming.

Go figure.The original poster wasn't talking about $30 and he wasn't talking about blowjobs. He was talking about LT for $12-15. There's a big difference. I'the say if you can get full sex for $36 in Tokyo or Singapore, then perhaps you should move there.

In my country, I can get CBJ, FS, DFK and AR from a Colombian supermodel for 125 South Sea Peso at a famous Sydney brothel. That’s less than what a Pinay SW with lipstick charges sometimes on PL. LOL. So what’s your point?

Rick Rock
08-30-19, 09:51
So whats your point?That a lot of guys have more money than brains, they'll fuck pigs at trash hotels in the third world at 10 times the going rate and brag about it, all the while they could have sex with more attractive women in first world countries for less money.

Poopbunny
08-30-19, 10:02
I am currently in a country where 12-15 dollars is standard for LT. I am not willing to name it because I want it to stay that way as long as possible before too many one week millionaires come along and fuck it up.

SE.I'm guessing Madagascar.

Turgid
08-30-19, 21:19
In Germany you can fuck 20 year old blonde beauties for 50 Euros with free food and drink included. Where is comparable value in Pattaya? There are go go bars on Walking Street charging 3000 Baht barfines, and then making the punters wait until midnight before they can leave with the ladies.Germany is more expensive for remember you pay EUR50 to enter the club and transport to the club is not cheap and add to that hotel accomodation price if you are a foreigner. Nevertheless, I do believe it is the best mongering on the planet.

Goferring
08-30-19, 22:51
Germany is more expensive for remember you pay EUR50 to enter the club and transport to the club is not cheap and add to that hotel accomodation price if you are a foreigner. Nevertheless, I do believe it is the best mongering on the planet.Doesn't matter where we go, the girls are always prettier and cheaper somewhere else. 😁.

Or people could just suck it up and make their own fun where they are. . . .

Dg8787
08-30-19, 23:27
Doesn't matter where we go, the girls are always prettier and cheaper somewhere else. 😁.

Or people could just suck it up and make their own fun where they are. . . .I think no happy here no come here.

Psychman
08-31-19, 00:05
In Germany you can fuck 20 year old blonde beauties for 50 Euros with free food and drink included. Where is comparable value in Pattaya? There are go go bars on Walking Street charging 3000 Baht barfines, and then making the punters wait until midnight before they can leave with the ladies.For 15 minutes, right? In Pattaya using Thai Friendly you can get for all night with hotties for just a few dollars more.

Wicked Roger
08-31-19, 00:24
I'm guessing Madagascar.LOL Poopbunny I also looked at his FR history. Isn't there some nasty outbreak of a disease on the island sometime ago (can't be sure if that is correct).

Now we know am sure some will head there for the 12 dollar pussy. The cheap charlies need to realize that it does cost a lot to get there first LOL.

Dg8787
08-31-19, 03:10
LOL Poopbunny I also looked at his FR history. Isn't there some nasty outbreak of a disease on the island sometime ago (can't be sure if that is correct).

Now we know am sure some will head there for the 12 dollar pussy. The cheap charlies need to realize that it does cost a lot to get there first LOL.Cheap Charlie's will bargain it down to $10 pussy to make up for the travel cost!

Mr Enternational
08-31-19, 04:47
For 15 minutes, right? In Pattaya using Thai Friendly you can get for all night with hotties for just a few dollars more.You are joking right? The chick that is still in my bed now that I met on Thai Friendly about 11 hours ago is 30 euro ($32,1700 p, 1000 baht), not a few dollars more than 50 euro. Stop overpaying! LOL.


Cheap Charlie's will bargain it down to $10 pussy to make up for the travel cost!Damn right I will. That extra will be my scuba diving money.

ANewTravler
08-31-19, 05:04
Damn right I will. That extra will be my scuba diving money.Haha that's a good one!

Houston Player
08-31-19, 05:28
You are joking right? The chick that is still in my bed now that I met on Thai Friendly about 11 hours ago is 30 euro ($32,1700 p, 1000 baht), not a few dollars more than 50 euro. Stop overpaying! LOL.He did specify hotties. I doubt your girl was a hottie in anyone's eyes but yours. 555.

PilotPaul
08-31-19, 06:01
He did specify hotties. I doubt your girl was a hottie in anyone's eyes but yours. 555.And that is exactly the point of mongering and paying. You can set your own standard for hotness.

CzarNicholas
08-31-19, 06:07
You are joking right? The chick that is still in my bed now that I met on Thai Friendly about 11 hours ago is 30 euro ($32,1700 p, 1000 baht), not a few dollars more than 50 euro. Stop overpaying! LOL.

Damn right I will. That extra will be my scuba diving money.Mr e and myself, et al.

I can't imagine what prices would be like if everyone threw all of their pension check or paycheck at these 3rd world hookers like the "hard-up harrys".

I'm willing to challenge hp or any other "hard-up harry" that likes to shower below avg 3rd world hookers with riches to touch their [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) [CodeWord133] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133).

That I can get prettier / younger / better service for 1/10th of what they pay, if not free.

Goferring
08-31-19, 07:21
Damn right I will. That extra will be my scuba diving money.You might be onto something there. Everyone has been wingeing how hard it is to find Beach, Bars and Girls in PI. Fuck it, let's all move to Mada. ED may not come because he's scared of catching the clap, being axe murdered or worse. But I'll tell Roger there are actually some cheap one stop airfares and it will be one big ISG fuck fest.

Rick probably won't come because he hates everywhere and only fucks euro trash in civilised surroundings.

If E handles the negotiations, we'll probably actually make money on the deal.

Who'se in? 🤔 😁.

RangeLove
08-31-19, 11:31
You might be onto something there. Everyone has been wingeing how hard it is to find Beach, Bars and Girls in PI. Fuck it, let's all move to Mada. ED may not come because he's scared of catching the clap, being axe murdered or worse. But I'll tell Roger there are actually some cheap one stop airfares and it will be one big ISG fuck fest.

Rick probably won't come because he hates everywhere and only fucks euro trash in civilised surroundings.

If E handles the negotiations, we'll probably actually make money on the deal.

Who'se in? 🤔 😁.Count me in!

I go in October anyway.

And I can make myself useful translating the beautiful French language.

SoberHans69
09-01-19, 14:12
Germany is more expensive for remember you pay EUR50 to enter the club and transport to the club is not cheap and add to that hotel accomodation price if you are a foreigner. Nevertheless, I do believe it is the best mongering on the planet.Plus I've only ever been to one FKK but the sex seems a lot more mechanical.

Turgid
09-01-19, 19:56
Plus I've only ever been to one FKK but the sex seems a lot more mechanical.I love banging really hot women but as we all know the hotter the babes the more mechanical the sex.

John Clayton
09-01-19, 20:04
I love banging really hot women but as we all know the hotter the babes the more mechanical the sex.I don't agree. It may be true for the heavily made up / tarted up club girls. But my theory (after fifty years of experimentation) is that girls who are natural beauties often are not handicapped or held back by self loathing. They have more confidence, which can make it easier for them to open up. Girls who lack self confidence are often emotionally more timid.

Member #4698
09-01-19, 20:34
my theory (after fifty years of experimentation) is that girls who are natural beauties often are not handicapped or held back by self loathing. They have more confidence, which can make it easier for them to open up. Girls who lack self confidence are often emotionally more timid.I agree. In my own 45 years of shagging girls and mongering I have found no significant correlation between looks good or bad and sexual performance or price (high or low) and sexual performance. Sometimes the sexiest girl in the bar is great in bed. Sometimes the plainest girl on the street is lousy in bed and vice a versa. And sometimes the most expensive girl is worth every peso and sometimes a very inexpensive girl is a complete waste of money and vice a versa.

It is all personal and relative to the two people involved. A girl that really rocks me may do nothing for someone else. That's why I like to hunt solo and pick up girls in bars and Go Go's. After the initial attraction I like to check out the vibe before I make an invitation. I don't mind buying a few lady drinks in multiple bars along the way until I find what I am looking for. I don't think I will ever get into internet social media pickups big time although I have tried it a few times with fairly decent results. But overall I trust my instincts when I am sitting with a girl and getting acquainted over a couple of drinks. I can usually spot the bad vibe girls or the risky ones and walk. It has nothing to do with looks or price in my humble experience.

Although price is an indicator in a situation where a girl quotes something way above the range of her particular venue. Like a girl that quotes 6000 p in a bar where all the other girls are asking 3000 p. That girl is saying she really does not want to go with you and her preference should be heeded unless you want to throw your money away. But this is not what I am talking about. I am talking about a 12,000 p model quality stunner in AF1 and a 1000 p SW on Fields. The stunner may be great in bed, The SW may be lousy. All I am saying is based on price and/or looks alone, there is no way of telling who is going to be good and who is not going to be good.

Spidy
09-01-19, 21:56
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=300078&d=1567223204
" 'Hoe' much can you pay me".

To funny...LOL.. Kkk

NewImage
09-01-19, 22:33
I agree. In my own 45 years of shagging girls and mongering I have found no significant correlation between looks good or bad and sexual performance or price (high or low) and sexual performance. Sometimes the sexiest girl in the bar is great in bed. Sometimes the plainest girl on the street is lousy in bed and vice a versa. And sometimes the most expensive girl is worth every peso and sometimes a very inexpensive girl is a complete waste of money and vice a versa.

It is all personal and relative to the two people involved. A girl that really rocks me may do nothing for someone else. That's why I like to hunt solo and pick up girls in bars and Go Go's. After the initial attraction I like to check out the vibe before I make an invitation. I don't mind buying a few lady drinks in multiple bars along the way until I find what I am looking for. I don't think I will ever get into internet social media pickups big time although I have tried it a few times with fairly decent results. But overall I trust my instincts when I am sitting with a girl and getting acquainted over a couple of drinks. I can usually spot the bad vibe girls or the risky ones and walk. It has nothing to do with looks or price in my humble experience.

Although price is an indicator in a situation where a girl quotes something way above the range of her particular venue. Like a girl that quotes 6000 p in a bar where all the other girls are asking 3000 p. That girl is saying she really does not want to go with you and her preference should be heeded unless you want to throw your money away. But this is not what I am talking about. I am talking about a 12,000 p model quality stunner in AF1 and a 1000 p SW on Fields. The stunner may be great in bed, The SW may be lousy. All I am saying is based on price and/or looks alone, there is no way of telling who is going to be good and who is not going to be good.IMO there are so many factors involved in a good session that a sweeping generalization about looks and perf is fool hardy.

One of my tactics is to take a girl who is a step or two down from the top shelf and make her feel special that I chose her over the other better looking. Despite being a WG they are people too and psychology works with some.

I also hunt solo and interview extensively looking for that connection which I believe gives me the best results.

I am sure we will agree a horny 7/8 WG is better than a bored when will you finish 9/10 WG.

BYVMD.

Mr Enternational
09-02-19, 05:49
I am talking about a 12,000 p model quality stunner in AF1 and a 1000 p SW on Fields. The stunner may be great in bed, The SW may be lousy.I totally agree with your assessment. But I would much rather spend 1,000 to find out the girl is not shit, than to spend 12,000 to find out the girl is not shit.

Blanquiceleste
09-02-19, 10:22
I love banging really hot women but as we all know the hotter the babes the more mechanical the sex.How on earth did you come to this conclusion? Are you saying you have never had great sex with a really smoking hot woman? I feel for you mate.

Mr Enternational
09-02-19, 12:09
One of my tactics is to take a girl who is a step or two down from the top shelf and make her feel special that I chose her over the other better looking. Despite being a WG they are people too and psychology works with some.So if a 60 year old saggy titty pot bellied grandma Filipina made you feel special then that psychology would work on you? The true test is trying your tactics out on someone you do not have to give money to.

Chocha Monger
09-02-19, 13:31
It is well known that many mongers dislike the taste of single origin coffee as their uncultivated palates cannot cope with the increased acidity, complex notes and fuller body. Some mongers dislike single malt whiskey as they find the peatiness and smokey flavour a little overbearing. In any case, such quality is wasted when the monger mixes it with Coke lite at Eruptions bar. These Philistines from the west uniformly prefer blended coffee beans and blended whiskey.

The same applies to single origin trike driver cum found in AC bar girls' pussies. Many mongers simply do not like the taste and have provided appropriate feedback to the Mayor's office. They find the pure unadulterated proteolytic enzymes, citric acid and sulphurs contained in single trike driver cum to be far too strong for their delicate North American palates. Sissies. They prefer the taste of blended cum..In Angeles City, you are getting the international blend. It is like the world bricking in your mouth. Your bar girl will never taste the same twice.

NewImage
09-02-19, 22:47
So if a 60 year old saggy titty pot bellied grandma Filipina made you feel special then that psychology would work on you? The true test is trying your tactics out on someone you do not have to give money to.You mean like my sexy Viet partner of 11 years who lives with me and lets me wander. Yeah she gives me money for food and what I call board.

But I have always made her feel special and her me.

Charm City Dave
09-05-19, 18:06
When you find the right woman, I think you got the best arrangement. I have several friends who are similarly set up and they are the happiest people I know. I could cover food and board lol. I have friends even providing minor support to Mom and Dad in the provinces which wouldn't be an issue for me. I often think of moving to Asia and looking for the right one.


You mean like my sexy Viet partner of 11 years who lives with me and lets me wander. Yeah she gives me money for food and what I call board.

But I have always made her feel special and her me.

Goferring
09-06-19, 01:41
When you find the right woman, I think you got the best arrangement. I have several friends who are similarly set up and they are the happiest people I know. I could cover food and board lol. I have friends even providing minor support to Mom and Dad in the provinces which wouldn't be an issue for me. I often think of moving to Asia and looking for the right one.I've posted before that the silent majority who have normal relationships with Asian partners are rarely heard from. This site is like any other interest based site: it focuses on aspirational topics rather than every day events. We read about fucking hot hookers just like 800 hp Ferraris or million dollar cruiser yachts not married couples getting on with life, Toyota Camrys or trailer sailers.

The whole 'all Asian women are sluts' vs 'my wife / GF is a princess' has been debated many times but suffice to say there are a few indicators that improve the likelihood success vs failure:

Met a civilian in a normal work, social or via friends setting; broadly similar age, interests and social standing; able to actually talk about subjects of interest; accepting of each other's cultural and social differences.

VS.

Met in a bar or online; a wide disparity in age; no common interests; the only topic of discussion is the flow of $$ a massive power imbalance; no understanding of each others' back ground.

Much is often made of the step change when the girl is relocated to the west. People are often surprised when she is brought across by someone 3 x her age, with no common interests, is treated like a combined indentured servant and sex slave and then leaves for someone closer to her age who treats her half decently. Meanwhile there are many who fit the first group above who make the transition very easily without any ramifications but are not heard from here.

I'm not saying a mixed relationship is for everyone. But to say they all end in disaster would be equally incorrect.

Enjoy. G.

NewImage
09-06-19, 08:31
When you find the right woman, I think you got the best arrangement. I have several friends who are similarly set up and they are the happiest people I know. I could cover food and board lol. I have friends even providing minor support to Mom and Dad in the provinces which wouldn't be an issue for me. I often think of moving to Asia and looking for the right one.Go to Vietnam my friend. They are beautiful both inside and out. Will let you be a man. Realize that philandering is just what men are programmed to do. Many stay beautiful well into their 40's and 50's. Know their place and are very good homemakers and usually excellent mothers.
There is no doubt that she sees me as security but I send no money home. I know I am in a privileged position and honestly if she asked me to give up my escapades overseas I would, but I know she wouldn't. A matter of fact she encourages me to go and destress from my job.
The downside. Well family comes first, esp seeing she is the oldest sister. If mother or father was sick or needed her she would be back there in a shot but I am pretty sure she would come back when it was all over.
I know you shouldn't generalize but I feel you have a better chance of success with a Viet as opposed to a Thai or Phil.
But maybe I'm biased.
One thing I do know is each night I cuddle up to one of the nicest people on the planet and for that I count my blessings every day.

NI.

(sorry if the last bit is a bit mushy).

Sidtip
09-06-19, 14:30
You mean like my sexy Viet partner of 11 years who lives with me .Sorry but I highly doubt she is sexy to you after 11 year. After 3 months most girls lose their shine. After 3 years it is just near impossible that the feelings are like that. Men who say that are not real mongers. Once you get the taste for freshness, those kind of feelings towards long-term partners are just doomed.

Sidtip
09-06-19, 14:37
no common interests, is treated like a combined indentured servant and sex slave and then leaves for someone closer to her age who treats her half decently. Meanwhile there are many who fit the first group above who make the transition very easily without any ramifications but are not heard from here.


Enjoy. G.Philly girls have got to be among the most empty-headed girls on the planet. They can't hold a conversation, they don't have ambition or drive, they don't want to work, they don't know how to save or plan for the future. Bringing them over here is just simply a mistake. It is fun to start with but they will sit at home under your feet day after day and no amount of dick sucking will be enough. You will yearn for your freedom. What annoys me most about them is that if you give them $100 they will go to the mall and spend it in a day. Give them $300 and they will do the same, They cannot save. They are little spending machines. They might not have enough money for food and their children might be running around with no shoes but they will happily take your $200 and buy a new paid of branded sunglasses.

Soapy Smith
09-06-19, 19:59
Once you get the taste for freshness, those kind of feelings towards long-term partners are just doomed.I think this qualifies your assessment of these women. That is, the ongoing sexiness of the woman seems to turn more on your "taste for freshness" than anything inherent in the woman's sexiness or character. It's possible NI doesn't experience this the same way you do.

Soapy Smith
09-06-19, 20:11
Much is often made of the step change when the girl is relocated to the west. People are often surprised when she is brought across by someone 3 x her age, with no common interests, is treated like a combined indentured servant and sex slave and then leaves for someone closer to her age who treats her half decently. Meanwhile there are many who fit the first group above who make the transition very easily without any ramifications but are not heard from here.These discussions seem usually to hinge on the woman's ability to adjust. A common meme is that "you can't take the bar out of the girl. " But perhaps much also depends on the man's adjustment. Seems like treating a woman "like a combined indentured servant and sex slave" might have some bearing on the outcome.

Chocha Monger
09-07-19, 11:36
Sorry but I highly doubt she is sexy to you after 11 year. After 3 months most girls lose their shine. After 3 years it is just near impossible that the feelings are like that. Men who say that are not real mongers. Once you get the taste for freshness, those kind of feelings towards long-term partners are just doomed.Yes. The true monger always wants fresh meat, and 3 months of sexing the same Filipina will quickly lead to boredom and waning interest. After 3 to 5 years of sexing the same Filipina, a real monger will need Viagra to bolster his withering ardor. Mongers attempting long-term relationships will find the zeal to fuck their Filipina declining over time, and feel the need to satisfy their cravings for fresh meat. Eventually, they will indulge in the novelty of a fresh pussy outside of their long-term relationship or end it.

Chocha Monger
09-07-19, 12:01
Philly girls have got to be among the most empty-headed girls on the planet. They can't hold a conversation, they don't have ambition or drive, they don't want to work, they don't know how to save or plan for the future. Bringing them over here is just simply a mistake. It is fun to start with but they will sit at home under your feet day after day and no amount of dick sucking will be enough. You will yearn for your freedom. What annoys me most about them is that if you give them $100 they will go to the mall and spend it in a day. Give them $300 and they will do the same, They cannot save. They are little spending machines. They might not have enough money for food and their children might be running around with no shoes but they will happily take your $200 and buy a new paid of branded sunglasses.Filipinas are the best short-time girls in the world and the worst long-term partners ever. The only upside to taking one home with you is that she will suck your dick on demand like a Dirt Devil vacuum cleaner. If you are a retiree with the time and money to sit around having your dick blown 10 times per day, this will seem like a dream come true. However, you will have to weigh endless days of bottomless blowjobs against the dysfunctional fucked up nature of a Filipina wife.

NewImage
09-07-19, 23:36
Sorry but I highly doubt she is sexy to you after 11 year. After 3 months most girls lose their shine. After 3 years it is just near impossible that the feelings are like that. Men who say that are not real mongers. Once you get the taste for freshness, those kind of feelings towards long-term partners are just doomed.Ok so maybe I'm not a true monger but hands up who else would like to be in a position like me. Have your cake and eat it.

BYVMD.

Engine Driver
09-07-19, 23:41
Philly girls have got to be among the most empty-headed girls on the planet. They can't hold a conversation, they don't have ambition or drive, they don't want to work, they don't know how to save or plan for the future. Bringing them over here is just simply a mistake. It is fun to start with but they will sit at home under your feet day after day and no amount of dick sucking will be enough. You will yearn for your freedom. What annoys me most about them is that if you give them $100 they will go to the mall and spend it in a day. Give them $300 and they will do the same, They cannot save. They are little spending machines. They might not have enough money for food and their children might be running around with no shoes but they will happily take your $200 and buy a new paid of branded sunglasses.I'm going to nominate this submission for Article of the Year. Reports of Distinction as a minimum. More truer words have never been written before. Newbies, please take note. Love struck mongers on PL, please take note. Have this article carved in stone and mount the plaque above your bedhead.

Sidtip
09-07-19, 23:46
Ok so maybe I'm not a true monger but hands up who else would like to be in a position like me. Have your cake and eat it.

BYVMD.I probably went in a bit hard. I just mean that after several years, most girls don't appear as sexy to us. Although the Asian girls stay sexy longer until they totally shrivel up and go all crippled and wrinkly. It is also true that while we lose the lust for our current partners, another man might look at them in the way that we used to because to them they are fresh.

Sidtip
09-08-19, 00:04
Fil The only upside to taking one home with you is that she will suck your dick on demand like a Dirt Devil vacuum cleaner. If you are a retiree with the time and money to sit around having your dick blown 10 times per day, this will seem like a dream come true. Hfe.Exactly. Clearly you have experienced this. She will literally want to suck you all the time. Every time I got out of the shower she asks if she can kiss my dick, every time I leave the house she asks if she can kiss my dick, every time I need to do something she asks if she can suck it. She wants to fuck every night usually when I am nearly asleep or catching up on the news. It becomes a chore. Sex is supposed to be sporadic and exciting. Not on demand every waking moment of the day. Yes, this seems like the roles have been reversed. But you need to think carefully about letting one of these sexy little sex machines into your life. They are a bigger responsibility that you think.

Sidtip
09-08-19, 02:07
Can anyone tell me what the hassle factor is like in Angeles City in terms of beggars? Especially little kids?

I'm looking at staying around the Fields Avenue area where all the bars are.This is a really old post but it raises a massive red flag. He was asking about little kids. It was such a strange question that the people who answered him should have thought twice about his motives.

PedroMorales
09-08-19, 08:23
I'm going to nominate this submission for Article of the Year. Reports of Distinction as a minimum. More truer words have never been written before. Newbies, please take note. Love struck mongers on PL, please take note. Have this article carved in stone and mount the plaque above your bedhead.Lots of Pinay women run laundries, cafes and other entrepreneurial gigs. For obese Americans who can barely waddle and whose bellies are too big for them to see their shrivelled dicks to generalize about them is stupidity on steroids. Sure, the hookers of Fields would make good wives if you were happy for them just to cook food and watch cartoons all day long. I would like to see their obese critics work in a rice paddy, with Pinoy overlords abusing them for being so fat and so useless. That would be fun and the whole village would laughing at the rotund waster in his Hawaii shirt.

Have you never been to Manila airport and seen the swarms of overseas workers? It is their remittances that keep the country alive. Let's face the truth. A lot of mongers are dysfunctional losers who think they are Casanovas because they can buy a hooker for a few hours and who are stupid to know they are with a rice farmer's daughter, not a PhD.

X Man
09-08-19, 09:58
I'm sorry for the unusual request, but is it possible that we return to Angeles city thread for a day or two?

How much is the licensing for the gals. Initial cost? Renewals? Hygiene?

I ask because someone I met on sns was hoping I'd be available on her day off to help her out.

X Man
09-08-19, 10:27
Sns gal suddenly wants to meet. Need the licensing fees. What is the initial license fee, hygiene, and other BS cost?

I've had a lot of AC gals give the hygiene (mostly BS) story. What time do they open. I think I should go there and check it out. Gals finish work at 2 or 4 am and they have appointments at 7 am. BS!

Sammon
09-08-19, 13:03
Filipinas are the best short-time girls in the world and the worst long-term partners ever. The only upside to taking one home with you is that she will suck your dick on demand like a Dirt Devil vacuum cleaner. If you are a retiree with the time and money to sit around having your dick blown 10 times per day, this will seem like a dream come true. However, you will have to weigh endless days of bottomless blowjobs against the dysfunctional fucked up nature of a Filipina wife.There are loads of western men who are married to Philippine women. To classify the whole country women as no good is insulting to people who married them and quite content. Some girls I have met are very smart in money management as well as keeping me happy. It is only the bar girls who have the mentality to do away with the day's earnings. It is because they know next day they will earn it back courtesy of mongers who show off with money. Among girls it is always to show off what they have which they think elevates their standing among their peers. Only when she ages and looses are " come fuck me power " they realize they will be poor for not saving money.

Real girls with jobs save money and are smart.

SaltyPete
09-08-19, 16:16
There are loads of western men who are married to Philippine women. To classify the whole country women as no good is insulting to people who married them and quite content. Some girls I have met are very smart in money management as well as keeping me happy. It is only the bar girls who have the mentality to do away with the day's earnings. It is because they know next day they will earn it back courtesy of mongers who show off with money. Among girls it is always to show off what they have which they think elevates their standing among their peers. Only when she ages and looses are " come fuck me power " they realize they will be poor for not saving money.

Real girls with jobs save money and are smart.Another incentive to "spend it as soon as she gets it" is the cultural expectation of someone with money supporting everyone in the family without money. It is just about impossible to save anything with a family of leechers. And bar girls may have more pressure to support their family since they make a relatively high amount; they also generally come from poorer families than "real girls with jobs".

Just a passing thought.

Dg8787
09-08-19, 16:24
Ok so maybe I'm not a true monger but hands up who else would like to be in a position like me. Have your cake and eat it.

BYVMD.Who gives a crap about what other people think? They are nobodies. It only matters what you think and want.

Chocha Monger
09-08-19, 16:28
There are loads of western men who are married to Philippine women. To classify the whole country women as no good is insulting to people who married them and quite content. Some girls I have met are very smart in money management as well as keeping me happy. It is only the bar girls who have the mentality to do away with the day's earnings. It is because they know next day they will earn it back courtesy of mongers who show off with money. Among girls it is always to show off what they have which they think elevates their standing among their peers. Only when she ages and looses are " come fuck me power " they realize they will be poor for not saving money.

Real girls with jobs save money and are smart.Loads of Western men make costly mistakes, and choose to live with those mistakes because they fear the horrible violations at the hands of Western divorce courts. Hence, they suffer in silence and make the best of a bad situation. By the time they discover the skulls hidden their Philippine wife's closet, kids are part of the equation and she has enormous advantage in the marriage.

Bar girls are bad news but they are a common scapegoat for general rotten behavior of Filipinas married to Western men. Filipinos will often say that the foreigner must have met their Filipina wife in a bar as a way placing the blame on a small subgroup of the population. In reality, all Filipinas will engage in 'yabang' (showing off) with their Western husband's money. It is a cultural trait not limited to bar girls. Smart Filipinas in government and business embezzle funds to acquire brands to elevate their social status. A smart person in the Philippines is one who acquires wealth, power, and social status through corruption and rapaciousness.

Long game girls with regular jobs know how to hide their true nature and keep the monger happy until he marries them, takes them to his country, and has some kids. Then she will make him pay for all the sex and blowjobs she gave him. The balloon payment will come due blindsiding him, and his happiness will turn to sorrow.

Dg8787
09-08-19, 21:59
This is a really old post but it raises a massive red flag. He was asking about little kids. It was such a strange question that the people who answered him should have thought twice about his motives.If you been in AC then you would know what he is referring to. The question was pretty right on and is still pertinent today about little kid beggars. I think Mr. E answered it pretty correctly back then.

More worried some were the older glue sniffing street kids looking for money.

Dg8787
09-08-19, 22:05
Loads of Western men make costly mistakes, and choose to live with those mistakes because they fear the horrible violations at the hands of Western divorce courts. Hence, they suffer in silence and make the best of a bad situation. By the time they discover the skulls hidden their Philippine wife's closet, kids are part of the equation and she has enormous advantage in the marriage.

Bar girls are bad news but they are a common scapegoat for general rotten behavior of Filipinas married to Western men. Filipinos will often say that the foreigner must have met their Filipina wife in a bar as a way placing the blame on a small subgroup of the population. In reality, all Filipinas will engage in 'yabang' (showing off) with their Western husband's money. It is a cultural trait not limited to bar girls. Smart Filipinas in government and business embezzle funds to acquire brands to elevate their social status. A smart person in the Philippines is one who acquires wealth, power, and social status through corruption and rapaciousness.

Long game girls with regular jobs know how to hide their true nature and keep the monger happy until he marries them, takes them to his country, and has some kids. Then she will make him pay for all the sex and blowjobs she gave him. The balloon payment will come due blindsiding him, and his happiness will turn to sorrow.Such a problem that the US Congress has passed a budget of $20,000,000 to do a study about it and get to the true facts. To save some taxpayers money I suggest the study be done in conjunction with the 2020 Census. Also other Western countries should consider doing the same study. Until the study results are in I will withhold my opinion about this.

Golfinho
09-08-19, 23:00
is the cultural expectation of someone with money supporting everyone in the family without money. It is just about impossible to save anything..And bar girls may have more pressure to support their family since they make a relatively high amount. Just a passing thought.It really is an admirable trait the way filipino family members take care of each other, help and do what they can, when they can for one another. Wouldn't anyone love to be part of such a caring, sharing family unit? Isn't that the way it should be? (providing you're not the only one with money).

GoodEnough
09-08-19, 23:58
Loads of Western men make costly mistakes, and choose to live with those mistakes because they fear the horrible violations at the hands of Western divorce courts. Hence, they suffer in silence and make the best of a bad situation. By the time they discover the skulls hidden their Philippine wife's closet, kids are part of the equation and she has enormous advantage in the marriage.
And yet most of my expat friends here are married to Filipinas; have been married for years; are happy in their relationships and experience none of what you so grandiosely generalize about. On the off chance that you've actually met a substantial number of well-educated Filipinas who've never worked in or gone near a bar then you should know better than to engage in such broad statements and provide absolutely no reference for you conclusions, most of which are simply wrong. My wife runs her own business, manages money better than I do and is one of the least pretentious people I've ever known. I never know from your posts if you've ever really been here or merely enjoy the self-righteousness, and the only reason. I bother to respond to your largely erroneous posts is that some people who don't know the country, may actually believe them.

GE.

Quixote Don
09-09-19, 00:01
Beware of the Vegas Raiderzzzz barhop.

Most of those here don't need a barhop and a paid "American guide" to lead them around gogo bars (most located on 1 street); however, I partook and here is my review.

Raiders85/ Vegas Raiderzzzz / Oakland Raiderzzzz is not a bad guy which makes it tough to be unbiased in this review. However, this may help others. . so I'll try to be objective.

Raiders85 fancies himself as a group leader, a conduit to introduce you to guys also on vacation. He goes through the painstaking work of asking for your dates, what country you reside, and then adding you to a line group chat called "Boots on the ground".

You may be asking why you couldn't just list your own dates on a message board and pm other members to meet? Well then you wouldn't get his "service" which is to safeguard you from yourself and the bars; should problems arise, he is a "fixer".

All this comes at the low low cost of paying for his drinks. Nightly, his food. Nightly, spending money at his commissioned bars. Nightly, and making "donations" (nightly) so he can "feed his family".

If your contribution is large enough, you may even be bestowed the title of uncle, or be told how he will regale his children with stories of your generosity.

He will publish his children's birthdays, baptisms and christenings with the unspoken expectation of a sizable donation.

Also, make sure to give him your dates of departure so you can eat with him on your "farewell dinner". Then call for his taxi guy to arrange a ride to the airport at an inflated rate.

I have no personal vendetta with Sam. I have bought him a meal, made a contribution and wished his son a happy birthday. I've just always disagreed with his methods.

He is like a tourist "hey meng" tout with the benefit / detriment of being an American so he can speak with you in your preferred idiom while extracting Philippine pesos from your wallet.

P.S.- His barhop is probably the worst I've ever been on in terms of updates, planning and structure. It starts whenever he feels, takes breaks for food, and only lists the clubs visited after the group has left. The only update done in 'real time' is the announcement of who has made the latest contribution (meal or money), as to encourage others to do the same.

Overall- if you need to pay for someone to hang out with you, then his 'service' has its benefits. Otherwise, save your money and socialize with others also on vacation, you'll be taking a 300 lb man-sized load off of your wallet.

-QD.

Sidtip
09-09-19, 00:34
If you been in AC then you would know what he is referring to. The question was pretty right on and is still pertinent today about little kid beggars. I think Mr. E answered it pretty correctly back then.

More worried some were the older glue sniffing street kids looking for money.I don't think you are right. I was there last month and I've been to lots of other places that have them like Saigon and Siem Reap, but here he was asking about children beggars. Who in the world thinks about that before they visit a country as if that is a deciding factor? He should have a massive red flag put on his head.

Sidtip
09-09-19, 00:42
Loads of Western men make costly mistakes, and choose to live with those mistakes because they fear the horrible violations at the hands of Western divorce courts. Hence, they suffer in silence and make the best of a bad situation. By the time they discover the skulls hidden their Philippine wife's closet, kids are part of the equation and she has enormous advantage in the marriage.

Bw.Exactly. By the time the old fart has spent a fortune on the visa and embarrassed himself in front of his family by hooking up with someone who looks like his daughter, he just can't go back. I did it and I still like the girl and I am sure she would be great but they are still mostly empty-headed you tube-addicts.

I was sitting in an AC pizza shop and this old fart Australian with snowy white hair and bad teeth was sitting there with a below-average 40 year old scrubber that he had just picked up and eh was telling her "we don't use our phones at the dinner table in Australia"' and "we don't. This in Australia". I wanted to slap the old fool on the back of the head. The girls might be empty-headed but old ugly decrepit men like him are even further down the food chain.

Goferring
09-09-19, 07:07
Philly girls have got to be among the most empty-headed girls on the planet. They can't hold a conversation, they don't have ambition or drive, they don't want to work, they don't know how to save or plan for the future.


And yet most of my expat friends here are married to Filipinas; have been married for years; are happy in their relationships and experience none of what you so grandiosely generalize about.Of course, you are both correct but there is one thing that is always missing from the mindless sluut vs princess discussion. Despite what they say, those commenting are always only talking about the girls that they meet.

It comes as no surprise that guys that only meet girls in bars or online hookup sites express a derogatory view while guys that meet educated and basically decent girls are complementary. There is also the grey area in between where guys recognize that some girls are great for an hour's fun while others may be suitable for a longer commitment.

You are the company you keep so it is also no surprise that guys who settle with a hooker or bar girl have seen little more than a lap top screen in mum's basement while those who meet a better quality girl have a much broader experience of home and Asia.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
09-09-19, 07:31
It really is an admirable trait the way filipino family members take care of each other, help and do what they can, when they can for one another. Wouldn't anyone love to be part of such a caring, sharing family unit? Isn't that the way it should be? (providing you're not the only one with money).Surely you are joking. The system that you are talking about only works from the bottom up. No kid asked to come into this world and they damn should not be saddled with a mandatory burden from the jump.

From my point of view this way fosters a system of irresponsibility and stagnates growth. It is almost akin to the US welfare system where chicks can push out babies and not worry because Uncle Sam is going to send her a check. In the PI system they will push out babies knowing that in just a few years they will be able to sit back and reap the benefits.

The job of a parent is to raise kids to go out and be able to take care of themselves and build a future making their own families. You can't build anything the way poorer Filipinos are holding back their kids. You have to be a pretty shitty parent to expect your offspring to stay around and take care of you. Yeah you little mf have your fun now because when you get 15 the party is over. Your ass is going to work so you can take care of me.

There would not be half as many "sick" relatives if it was not for this system. One LA Cafe chick that I used to fuck with said she was tired of that bullshit with her mom and was about to break out of it. She had hard enough a time providing for herself and her kid without her mom whining about what she needed every 5 minutes.

The reason that I only had one kid is because that is all I wanted to take care of. I most certainly did not have the attitude that soon she would have to throw all asunder in order to take care of me. If I had that mentality, then I probably would have had more. Fuck your dreams; your duty is to take care of me.

Mr Enternational
09-09-19, 07:45
Of course, you are both correct but there is one thing that is always missing from the mindless sluut vs princess discussion. Despite what they say, those commenting are always only talking about the girls that they meet.

It comes as no surprise that guys that only meet girls in bars or online hookup sites express a derogatory view while guys that meet educated and basically decent girls are complementary. No surprise at all. The key is getting a chick that you don't need to give money to, whether she is educated or not. I have had plenty of poor chicks that I did not have to slip money to. It seems that many guys only look for chicks to give money to for whatever reason. Maybe they want to feel needed? Maybe it makes them feel better after fucking a chick they want nothing else to do with? Even when the chick refuses money, they want to sneak it into her bag.

If that is the kind of relationship you seek, then you can not complain and think there is only one type of Filipina. You lay in the bed that you make. I never have those type of problems or prejudices because I pay hookers; I don't pay, give taxi money, provide tuition, or whatever else you use to describe it to women that are not hookers. I continue to have great normal relationships with the latter.

Engine Driver
09-09-19, 11:26
It really is an admirable trait the way filipino family members take care of each other, help and do what they can, when they can for one another. Wouldn't anyone love to be part of such a caring, sharing family unit? Isn't that the way it should be? (providing you're not the only one with money).Like E, I too could not believe what I was reading. This is sentimental BS of the highest order. Parasitic behaviour is not admirable at all. It is not all loving, caring and sharing in a Filipino household as you would like to think. They go through the same range of human emotions as any other race, but the issues for some reason seem to be magnified to the power of three. The level of jealousy, greed, envy, sloth, pride, wrath and gluttony within their families is not like anything I've encountered commonly in the west. The only deadly sin I don't mind in a Filipina is lust. LOL

Engine Driver
09-09-19, 11:35
I am sure she would be great but they are still mostly empty-headed you tube-addicts.



Sure, the hookers of Fields would make good wives if you were happy for them just to cook food and watch cartoons all day long. Compared to YouTube, watching cartoons all day would be considered an intellectual pursuit in my country. Pedro Morales, were the cartoons you were referring to of Speedy Gonzales by any chance?

NewImage
09-09-19, 12:14
Of course, you are both correct but there is one thing that is always missing from the mindless sluut vs princess discussion. Despite what they say, those commenting are always only talking about the girls that they meet.
It comes as no surprise that guys that only meet girls in bars or online hookup sites express a derogatory view while guys that meet educated and basically decent girls are complementary. There is also the grey area in between where guys recognize that some girls are great for an hour's fun while others may be suitable for a longer commitment.
You are the company you keep so it is also no surprise that guys who settle with a hooker or bar girl have seen little more than a lap top screen in mum's basement while those who meet a better quality girl have a much broader experience of home and Asia.
Enjoy. G.So many grasshoppers!

NI.

Turgid
09-09-19, 14:40
It really is an admirable trait the way filipino family members take care of each other, help and do what they can, when they can for one another. Wouldn't anyone love to be part of such a caring, sharing family unit? Isn't that the way it should be? (providing you're not the only one with money).I think that applies to Asian families generally.

Roll Aides
09-09-19, 15:25
No surprise at all. The key is getting a chick that you don't need to give money to, whether she is educated or not. I have had plenty of poor chicks that I did not have to slip money to. It seems that many guys only look for chicks to give money to for whatever reason. Maybe they want to feel needed? Maybe it makes them feel better after fucking a chick they want nothing else to do with? Even when the chick refuses money, they want to sneak it into her bag.

If that is the kind of relationship you seek, then you can not complain and think there is only one type of Filipina. You lay in the bed that you make. I never have those type of problems or prejudices because I pay hookers; I don't pay, give taxi money, provide tuition, or whatever else you use to describe it to women that are not hookers. I continue to have great normal relationships with the latter.Very well said. That pretty much sums it up.

Sxxxx
09-09-19, 22:11
Just a couple of days ago, I arrived at Angeles SM, 2.45 pm to catch a 3 pm bus to Terminal 3 Manila. As Genesis are won't to say repeatedly "Every hour on the hour".

3 pm came and no bus. 4 pm came and no bus. It arrived at 4.35 pm. I am now, in an anticipated 2-3 HR trip, 1. 35 hrs behind schedule to catch an overseas flight.

1.45 pm into the trip I asked bus driver, how much longer before we get to Terminal 3. He said with a smile "45 minutes". I said if I miss my overseas flight I will have to spend 1,200 dollars for a new ticket and new departure. He did not give a shit.

Bad weather prevented my plane from landing on time and departing on time. Saved my skin, but not Genesis. I asked him "what happened to the 3 pm, the 4 pm buses. He was silent, no answer to that.

"Its the Philippines" is the typical response. Phils has a talent for being unreliable. Watch out, when catching international flights out of the country!

Sidtip
09-10-19, 00:41
Beware of ou'll be taking a 300 lb man-sized load off of your wallet.

-QD.How much did you end up paying that fatty.

Sidtip
09-10-19, 00:48
It really is an admirable trait the way filipino family members take care of each other, help and do what they can, when they can for one another. Wouldn't anyone love to be part of such a caring, sharing family unit? Isn't that the way it should be? (providing you're not the only one with money).Admirable? The girls go out an sleep around for money and then are expected to hand it over to her begging sisters, brothers, mum, dad, uncle and aunty who all know what she does and think that even tho she is the one who is degrading her self that they should get a piece of the pie. They are too lazy or disgusted to go out and f around themselves for it. The girls can't save or do anything sensible like buy a fridge because the leeches take take take. Maybe buying a new phone or sunglasses or whatever is the best way to keep the cash from the leeches because if she puts it in the bank they will go through her stuff and find that bank book and soon see how much is in there.

Goferring
09-10-19, 02:11
I think that applies to Asian families generally.Not just Asians. I grew up around Italian families and they often had 3 or more generations in the one house. I must say I saw no free loaders with even the elderly expected do as much as they were able to help around the house.

Blame is often heaped upon the pina girl or Philippine society in general but if a distant cousin offered to build me a house and pay me a living wage for doing nothing then I'd be accepting it as well. The guys must shoulder some of the blame for enot growing a pair and watching where their money is going.

Cheers. G.

PS. I should have prefaced that the ultimate sin of the guy is to select a girl/family that tries that shit in the first place. 😁

Golfinho
09-10-19, 02:41
I think that applies to Asian families generally.It applies to traditional families in traditional societies in general. Social pathologies emerge from imbalances and unequal distributions of wealth and resources, such as resulting from American colonialism (in Philippines) or slavery in America that degraded entire races and made them degenerate, not that individuals in these societies are blameless, nor that an individual can't succeed (raise hisself up) but the parallels between blakmericans and Filipinos is pretty obvious.

Chocha Monger
09-10-19, 02:42
Exactly. By the time the old fart has spent a fortune on the visa and embarrassed himself in front of his family by hooking up with someone who looks like his daughter, he just can't go back. I did it and I still like the girl and I am sure she would be great but they are still mostly empty-headed you tube-addicts.

I was sitting in an AC pizza shop and this old fart Australian with snowy white hair and bad teeth was sitting there with a below-average 40 year old scrubber that he had just picked up and eh was telling her "we don't use our phones at the dinner table in Australia"' and "we don't. This in Australia". I wanted to slap the old fool on the back of the head. The girls might be empty-headed but old ugly decrepit men like him are even further down the food chain.Sadly, many old lechers think they can train middle-aged Filipinas with more mileage on their pussies than Cebu Pacific Airlines. The below-average 40-year-old scrubber will say and do whatever the oldie wants until he marries her and takes her to Oz. Once there, she will learn how the women in Oz do things, and the old codger will be living in his garage in no time.

Many happily married Westerners are out mongering because things are anything but happy in the bedroom at home. They miss their freedom but as you said, they do not want to admit to their foolish mistakes. Their family and friends likely told them they were fucking up marrying and importing a Filipina. The last thing they want to do is admit to being idiots. Best to keep up the charade of a happy marriage to their empty-headed leech and her blood-sucking family.

Many of these happy Western men and Filipina marriages end in murder and suicide. In fact, both Western and Philippine governments recognize that such marriages are high risk and have laws and pre-requisites regarding such arrangements.

Chocha Monger
09-10-19, 02:56
Like E, I too could not believe what I was reading. This is sentimental BS of the highest order. Parasitic behaviour is not admirable at all. It is not all loving, caring and sharing in a Filipino household as you would like to think. They go through the same range of human emotions as any other race, but the issues for some reason seem to be magnified to the power of three. The level of jealousy, greed, envy, sloth, pride, wrath and gluttony within their families is not like anything I've encountered commonly in the west. The only deadly sin I don't mind in a Filipina is lust. LOLCorrect! Through their envy, greed, and jealousy relatives make sure that the girls are unsuccessful in establishing a stable family of their own with a foreigner. The girls are expected to put the needs of the extended family before the needs of their own children. Many Western husbands express shock when confronted with this reality. They never thought that cousin Baboy's birthday party took precedence over Little Johnny's medical needs.

PilotPaul
09-10-19, 05:07
Just a couple of days ago, I arrived at Angeles SM, 2.45 pm to catch a 3 pm bus to Terminal 3 Manila. As Genesis are won't to say repeatedly "Every hour on the hour".

3 pm came and no bus. 4 pm came and no bus. It arrived at 4.35 pm. I am now, in an anticipated 2-3 HR trip, 1. 35 hrs behind schedule to catch an overseas flight.

1.45 pm into the trip I asked bus driver, how much longer before we get to Terminal 3. He said with a smile "45 minutes". I said if I miss my overseas flight I will have to spend 1,200 dollars for a new ticket and new departure. He did not give a shit.

Bad weather prevented my plane from landing on time and departing on time. Saved my skin, but not Genesis. I asked him "what happened to the 3 pm, the 4 pm buses. He was silent, no answer to that.

"Its the Philippines" is the typical response. Phils has a talent for being unreliable. Watch out, when catching international flights out of the country!Given that you would have been hitting EDSA in the afternoon peak hour. For that time of the day you have to allow 5 hours and getting there 2 hours before your flight. So if as you say you were on a 6 pm flight, the departure time from AC by bus is 11 am.

Looking through your posts as a senior member I'm surprised that you would cut things so fine.

Sxxxx
09-10-19, 22:09
Given that you would have been hitting EDSA in the afternoon peak hour. For that time of the day you have to allow 5 hours and getting there 2 hours before your flight. So if as you say you were on a 6 pm flight, the departure time from AC by bus is 11 am.

Looking through your posts as a senior member I'm surprised that you would cut things so fine.It was a Sunday. Afternoon peak hour?

I never said I was catching a 6 pm plane. I arrived at SM Clark Angeles 2. 45 pm for a 3 pm Genesis bus to catch a flight in Manila scheduled to depart at 8 pm.

Unknown, and lucky for me, bad weather delayed the arrival of my plane, and delayed its departure = I did not miss my flight.

No thanks to slack Genesis who's propaganda "departing every hour on the hour" is just that, propaganda only.

First time I used Genesis and last time.

I will go back to my usual m. O. Of utilizing private sedans hired through margarita station, or whoever. That's if I return to Angeles.

Dg8787
09-11-19, 04:06
Traveling to Manila airport on the same day of your international flight carries some risk and undue stress. I did that once with a private car and nearly made it.

After that whether by private car or bus I travel and stay in Manila the night before. For entertainment I bring an AC girl with me for the night. Sometimes I bring or meet 2 AC girls in Manila.

Run Mann
09-13-19, 00:28
Sadly, many old lechers think they can train middle-aged Filipinas with more mileage on their pussies than Cebu Pacific Airlines. The below-average 40-year-old scrubber will say and do whatever the oldie wants until he marries her and takes her to Oz. Once there, she will learn how the women in Oz do things, and the old codger will be living in his garage in no time.

Many happily married Westerners are out mongering because things are anything but happy in the bedroom at home. They miss their freedom but as you said, they do not want to admit to their foolish mistakes. Their family and friends likely told them they were fucking up marrying and importing a Filipina. The last thing they want to do is admit to being idiots. Best to keep up the charade of a happy marriage to their empty-headed leech and her blood-sucking family.

Many of these happy Western men and Filipina marriages end in murder and suicide. In fact, both Western and Philippine governments recognize that such marriages are high risk and have laws and pre-requisites regarding such arrangements.Sadly this is so true!

PilotPaul
09-13-19, 01:49
You mean like my sexy Viet partner of 11 years who lives with me and lets me wander. Yeah she gives me money for food and what I call board.

But I have always made her feel special and her me.I had a Filipina that would forgive my wanderings. That was great until I realized she was happy to forgive because she was wandering also.

Glad you have a better understanding girl.

PP.

Engine Driver
09-13-19, 03:24
Sadly, many old lechers think they can train middle-aged Filipinas with more mileage on their pussies than Cebu Pacific Airlines. The below-average 40-year-old scrubber will say and do whatever the oldie wants until he marries her and takes her to Oz. Once there, she will learn how the women in Oz do things, and the old codger will be living in his garage in no time.

Many happily married Westerners are out mongering because things are anything but happy in the bedroom at home. They miss their freedom but as you said, they do not want to admit to their foolish mistakes. Their family and friends likely told them they were fucking up marrying and importing a Filipina. The last thing they want to do is admit to being idiots. Best to keep up the charade of a happy marriage to their empty-headed leech and her blood-sucking family.

Many of these happy Western men and Filipina marriages end in murder and suicide. In fact, both Western and Philippine governments recognize that such marriages are high risk and have laws and pre-requisites regarding such arrangements.Sidtip was mistaking the monger's good and pure intentions. The old Australian fart was only trying to teach the below average, 40-year old scrubber acceptable table etiquette, in preparation for her new life in Australia. When the Pinay scrubber eventually marries the monger and is sitting at the table with his four, 40-something children and their spouses for Christmas lunch, he does not want his family to think that he married a hooker from Eastern Samar. He wants his family to know he has done rather well by marrying into Philippines high society. He wants them to be proud that he has selected a cultured, educated, well connected lady on par with his own social standing. A true blueblood with impeccable table manners! Using the phone would have been a dead giveaway, as in Australia, it is well known that only hookers use their phones at the dining table, constantly keeping up with the movements of their clients.

If Sidtip had bothered to stay a bit longer at that AC pizza shop, he would have seen the old Australian monger then teach the scrubber the way dignified people use cutlery in his white man country. The last thing he wants is for the Pinay to attack her plated up roast turkey with gravy, cranberry sauce, glazed baby carrots and hasselback potatoes at Christmas lunch with a spoon and fork!

Mr Enternational
09-13-19, 04:47
I received a Dear John letter today. I wonder what took this guy so long to come along. I thought I would never get rid of this chick.

Sidtip
09-13-19, 05:39
I received a Dear John letter today. I wonder what took this guy so long to come along. I thought I would never get rid of this chick.I'm more interested in the cup. What type was it. They love the plastic ones best.

WestCoast1
09-13-19, 12:25
I received a Dear John letter today. I wonder what took this guy so long to come along. I thought I would never get rid of this chick.Over the years, there are a number of girls like this. Sweet provincial girl, but smart. Has for some years been fine with me coming to her province (or meeting in a nearby province), or alternately flying into Cebu to meet with me for a few days. Always the same procedure: 2-4 days of malls, 'going around', blissful sex (good for me, in her mind not so much over time; she wants more). Hints online that she knows I am a playboy, wants me to spend more time with her, meet the family possibly. Then not surprisingly, there is the Dear John notice. Sometimes the Dear John notice turns out to be a fake (as per her later confession, there was no other guy). Alternately its real, but 6 months later everything went to hell for her with the new guy (possible fiance), FB post to fiance: "Happy breakup!" And she's running back. Have experienced it so many times that I realize the number of later returnees to me will be about 50% who want to come back (usually around the time the fiance's money runs out).

Blanquiceleste
09-13-19, 15:27
Over the years, there are a number of girls like this. Sweet provincial girl, but smart. Has for some years been fine with me coming to her province (or meeting in a nearby province), or alternately flying into Cebu to meet with me for a few days. Always the same procedure: 2-4 days of malls, 'going around', blissful sex (good for me, in her mind not so much over time; she wants more). Hints online that she knows I am a playboy, wants me to spend more time with her, meet the family possibly. Then not surprisingly, there is the Dear John notice. Sometimes the Dear John notice turns out to be a fake (as per her later confession, there was no other guy). Alternately its real, but 6 months later everything went to hell for her with the new guy (possible fiance), FB post to fiance: "Happy breakup!" And she's running back. Have experienced it so many times that I realize the number of later returnees to me will be about 50% who want to come back (usually around the time the fiance's money runs out).Wilt Chamberlain would be proud of you Westy. Only he might have more rebounds. LMAO.

Wicked Roger
09-13-19, 17:47
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Have experienced it so many times that I realize the number of later returnees to me will be about 50% who want to come back (usually around the time the fiance's money runs out).Never a truer word has been said Westie. They could be hitting on all ex boyfriends at the same time as well you could be one of many LOL.

Chocha Monger
09-14-19, 01:24
Sidtip was mistaking the monger's good and pure intentions. The old Australian fart was only trying to teach the below average, 40-year old scrubber acceptable table etiquette, in preparation for her new life in Australia. When the Pinay scrubber eventually marries the monger and is sitting at the table with his four, 40-something children and their spouses for Christmas lunch, he does not want his family to think that he married a hooker from Eastern Samar. He wants his family to know he has done rather well by marrying into Philippines high society. He wants them to be proud that he has selected a cultured, educated, well connected lady on par with his own social standing. A true blueblood with impeccable table manners! Using the phone would have been a dead giveaway, as in Australia, it is well known that only hookers use their phones at the dining table, constantly keeping up with the movements of their clients.

If Sidtip had bothered to stay a bit longer at that AC pizza shop, he would have seen the old Australian monger then teach the scrubber the way dignified people use cutlery in his white man country. The last thing he wants is for the Pinay to attack her plated up roast turkey with gravy, cranberry sauce, glazed baby carrots and hasselback potatoes at Christmas lunch with a spoon and fork!Of course, no old monger worth his salt would marry a poor Pinay who prostitutes herself, regardless of his being mistaken for a chain-smoking Woody Allen. All mongers marry up into the wealthiest families from the upper crust of the Philippine elite. The girls they fuck rubbed shoulders with and maybe even fucked Philippine presidents. The Pinays who marry mongers tend to be entrepreneurs running their own start-ups or CEOs of large cap corporations. Certainly, no one can doubt the pedigree of a Pinay who once gave Du30 a BBBJ.

If anyone back in his white man country berates him for marrying a pug-nosed Pinay from a shithole country, he will correct them by pointing out how well connected her family is with the mayor and village chief. This makes her part of the political elite and makes him a lucky man, as his social status is much improved through the marriage. He can now boast to folks back home that he is a big man about town in the Philippines, and no longer just another Western sex tourist.

NewImage
09-14-19, 04:23
I'm more interested in the cup. What type was it. They love the plastic ones best.Classic.

NI.

Engine Driver
09-15-19, 02:37
Of course, no old monger worth his salt would marry a poor Pinay who prostitutes herself, regardless of his being mistaken for a chain-smoking Woody Allen. All mongers marry up into the wealthiest families from the upper crust of the Philippine elite. The girls they fuck rubbed shoulders with and maybe even fucked Philippine presidents. The Pinays who marry mongers tend to be entrepreneurs running their own start-ups or CEOs of large cap corporations. Certainly, no one can doubt the pedigree of a Pinay who once gave Du30 a BBBJ.

If anyone back in his white man country berates him for marrying a pug-nosed Pinay from a shithole country, he will correct them by pointing out how well connected her family is with the mayor and village chief. This makes her part of the political elite and makes him a lucky man, as his social status is much improved through the marriage. He can now boast to folks back home that he is a big man about town in the Philippines, and no longer just another Western sex tourist.So that explains it. The Presidential connection. I was wondering how a bird brained nincompoop with a 4 year BS. Degree, majoring in cartoon studies from a low ranked university in Pangasinan could get to be the CEO of a major company. She polished the knobs of the wayward son and the cabinet! Look out for the leaked sex tape. Marisol does Malacanang .

Now talking about fat, loser mongers from Western Sydney marrying hookers and then claiming their wives are of noble birth, the same antics go on in Malaysia. Useless, pot bellied, Woody Allen lookalike mongers in their 70's marry hijab wearing girls who all claim to be related to royalty. With so many sultanates in that shithole country, everyone it seems is related to royalty. Even the pool boy at Istana Negara claims royal lineage, which is probably true. While the Sultans are not beating to death their caddies on the golf course for laughing at a missed putt, they are drinking, smoking and mongering. Just like us! Ahhh Islam, what a religion.

Chocha Monger
09-15-19, 05:47
Exactly. Clearly you have experienced this. She will literally want to suck you all the time. Every time I got out of the shower she asks if she can kiss my dick, every time I leave the house she asks if she can kiss my dick, every time I need to do something she asks if she can suck it. She wants to fuck every night usually when I am nearly asleep or catching up on the news. It becomes a chore. Sex is supposed to be sporadic and exciting. Not on demand every waking moment of the day. Yes, this seems like the roles have been reversed. But you need to think carefully about letting one of these sexy little sex machines into your life. They are a bigger responsibility that you think.Yes. The little sex machine will drain away your chi like some strange sexual vampire or succubus. You will find it hard to function normally as the multiple daily blowjobs and fucking take their toll. It will become difficult to focus on complex tasks at work, and your health may become compromised. Middle-aged and older guys will find that no amount of Viagra can make them fuck like a younger man. Certainly not with a young Filipina fuck monster sucking and draining them of their bodily fluids several times daily.

Sadly, any attempt to cut back on the endless sucking and fucking will lead to your little sucking machine throwing a tantrum, as she will believe that you are donating your fluids to some other hole. So, as you see, you are in for trouble. Might as well try filling the void of the Universe with your cum.

PilotPaul
09-15-19, 12:21
Over the years, there are a number of girls like this. Sweet provincial girl, but smart. Has for some years been fine with me coming to her province (or meeting in a nearby province), or alternately flying into Cebu to meet with me for a few days. Always the same procedure: 2-4 days of malls, 'going around', blissful sex (good for me, in her mind not so much over time; she wants more). Hints online that she knows I am a playboy, wants me to spend more time with her, meet the family possibly. Then not surprisingly, there is the Dear John notice. Sometimes the Dear John notice turns out to be a fake (as per her later confession, there was no other guy). Alternately its real, but 6 months later everything went to hell for her with the new guy (possible fiance), FB post to fiance: "Happy breakup!" And she's running back. Have experienced it so many times that I realize the number of later returnees to me will be about 50% who want to come back (usually around the time the fiance's money runs out).I'm currently monitoring one newly wed pinay. She 28, he 50+ and overweight, heart problems. She's moving to within 30 kilometres of my house. I wonder how long it will be after he arrives before I get a call. I'm thinking within 3 months.

Wicked Roger
09-18-19, 05:44
NG11 please can you organise your PM facility as it is full and I can't reply to your messages. Thanks.

NeoGuy11
09-19-19, 19:30
NG11 please can you organise your PM facility as it is full and I can't reply to your messages. Thanks.Sorry bro. Cleared now.

D Cups
09-20-19, 06:18
Please join me during bikini contest. I'm the guys with long hair and beer belly hopefully flanked by 2 or more chesty pinays.

Niteluvr
09-21-19, 03:57
Please join me during bikini contest. I'm the guys with long hair and beer belly hopefully flanked by 2 or more chesty pinays.Sound like Mango's buddy.

Dg8787
09-21-19, 21:11
Please join me during bikini contest. I'm the guys with long hair and beer belly hopefully flanked by 2 or more chesty pinays.Happy Birthday.

Hope you have one heck of an ejacgatory day!

Member #4698
09-21-19, 21:33
Please join me during bikini contest. I'm the guys with long hair and beer belly hopefully flanked by 2 or more chesty pinays.Happy Bday. I wish I could be there.

QuackUp
09-23-19, 06:20
After four hours on the Genesis bus got out in front of the mall. I first went to the taxi guy and he said it would be $350 p, I told him that was too much and he said that was the minimum he could charge. Then asked a trike driver and he said $150 p and I said fine. The trike has enough room for me and my suitcase. Get to the Central Park Tower and shower. I'm pretty tired with all the traveling but I said I'll go to at least one bar and if I find someone, I would barfne her, if not, get a good night sleep. I decided to go to Crystal Palace first only to find out it is closed. Plan be, go to Dollhouse, had a good girl the only other time I was here. Sit and got a drink but the talent was just average. If I wasn't so tired I probably would have taken someone, but tonight, headed back to the hotel for some well deserve sleep.

Day 2 Went to the mall to get lunch, then headed over to Ponytails. The one thing I remember about this bar is the airconditioning. It works great here. It's about 14:00 and the lineup is a little above average. By the time my eyes adjust I see a girl I liked to talk to. I was about to wave her over when another guy beats me to it. Timing is everything in our sport. No one else fancy me until they do the shift change. One girl who is very cute gets my attention. When she looks at me I smile and she smiles back but then looks elsewhere and does her bar dance. Next time I make eye contact, I wave at her, she waves back and does the same thing by continuing to dance. I was confused, not sure if she was sitting with someone when she wasn't dancing or maybe she was waiting for someone. No one else appealed to me so payed my bill and walked out. The last time I was here, Ponytails was the furthest I went on Perimeter Rd. So decided to walk and see what else is around. After a while I see a bar with about 4 guys sitting outside drinking beers. The bar name is Emotions. I figure if guys were drinking here, it must be decent. Inside the bar there is only one other customer and the lineup on the stage was average at best. I did see one cute girl in street clothes, okay might be some hidden gems for the next shift. Anyways, the one other customer had bar fined the cute girl. They left and I was the only customer inside. I decided to wait for the shift change and if nothing good came out of it, walk to another bar. After 15 minutes shift change. Again, just average, then as I was about to leave a cute girl gets on the stage. Not a stunner but would do. I call her down and buy a drink for her. We talk and I barfine her. This is where it gets good. The barfine is only $2100 p, While drinking with her, she did tell me she could only do short time but that was not a problem for me. Her name is Diana and I believe she said she was 19. Took a trike to the hotel for $100 p. And got my first shag in. The session wasn't the best but still fun. No BJ of any kind which isn't a big deal with me and only light kisses, a big deal for me. It seem like the younger they are, they are more reluctant to do BJ's. Not all but alot, at least in my case. Later that night I stopped into a bar called shipwreck. What a crazy setup. If you sit near the door you can't see the back stage and vice a versa. Talent wise, it wasn't bad but not great. There's a door in the middle of the bar so you can go to the bar next door. Not sure the name but I saw a cute girl there and bought her a drink. Not sure if getting up for all the tours in Australia was catching up to me but I felt too tired to bring her back to the hotel. I told her I would be back for her tomorrow and she was happy with that.

Day 3 Start the day at the mall for lunch again, then headed over to Scorebird for the Bikini contest. $500 p to enter and consumable plus you get beads included. First time doing this and it was fun but not sure I would do it again. It's funny though. The girls representing Ponytail looked good. Where were they yesterday? So after the contest headed back to the hotel to shower and barfine the girl I met at the bar next door to shipwreck. Her name is Rose Ann and was either 19 or 20. The barfine here was $3500 p. Before going back to the hotel, we went to the mall for dinner. I asked if she wanted to walk or trike. Trike for her. Last time I was here the girl didn't mind walking and was great in bed. This girl was almost a repeat of the girl from Emotions. No BJ, light kissing but was fun to be with. She stay until 23:. 30 and I told her she could leave so I could start packing for my trip back to Manila. Almost forgot, even though they didn't do BJ, for the main event we went bb without asking. Crazy I know but stuff happens. My trip to AC was short and fun but if I come back, I'll be looking for some of the stunners I saw back at the hotel.

Mr Enternational
09-23-19, 17:40
My trip to AC was short and fun but if I come back, I'll be looking for some of the stunners I saw back at the hotel.What were these stunners doing? Were they just regular hotel guests? The staff? Or there with other guys?

Goferring
09-23-19, 20:48
What were these stunners doing? Were they just regular hotel guests? The staff? Or there with other guys?I have no idea why but lots of MNL based residents and locals do take tea to China for the weekend. Likely the OP saw a group of those. G.

Mr Enternational
09-23-19, 21:02
I have no idea why but lots of MNL based residents and locals do take tea to China for the weekend. Likely the OP saw a group of those. G.I asked because whenever I stay at Central I always see women that look like they are in town for a convention or a wedding maybe. In general, general they are usually over 40 though.

QuackUp
09-24-19, 04:05
Hey Mr. E, they looked like hookers to me, but dressed up looking good. With the exception of one, the girls were with way older men. By the way, not knocking the older generation because I'm now one of them.

Engine Driver
09-25-19, 07:20
This has been written about and discussed to death on this board, but mongers are too lazy to RTFF. There are five ways to get to AC.

1. Fly straight into Clark.

2. Get a private car sent to pick you up (like from Margherita station).

3. Get a public taxi.

4. Get a hotel limo.

5. Get the bus.

Flying straight into Clark is the easiest and best option. That 3,200 metre runway built by Uncle Sam is just great. You will note that the runway width is 60 m to take the wing tip wheels of a B52 BUFF (big ugly fat fucker).

You can book a car online for about 3,000 pesos or negotiate with a cabbie off the street for that amount. I'm a big unit, so 2-3 hours in a Toyota compact car is not much fun, so I took the bus today. At least in a bus you can stretch out a bit and it's a lot more comfortable.

I took a cab from Makati to Pasay's Victory Liner Terminal. Cab fare was 100 pesos, and took maybe 15 minutes in light traffic. Bus fare to Dau station was 163 pesos. From Dau station to AC cost me 150 pesos in a trike.

I've never been to AC in a hotel limo. I'm sure if you paid 12,000 ++ pesos, they would take you there in a shiny black 7 series or S Class.

In the old days, the ABC hotel could take your there by chopper, but I'm not sure if they still do. In any case, they used a Robinson R22, which is no longer airworthy in a few countries.

Pasay Victory Liner terminal below.

Goferring
09-25-19, 07:51
Flying straight into Clark is the easiest and best option. That 3,200 metre runway built by Uncle Sam is just great.
.....

I took a cab from Makati to Pasay's Victory Liner Terminal. Cab fare was 100 pesos, and took maybe 15 minutes in light traffic. Bus fare to Dau station was 163 pesos. From Dau station to AC cost me 150 pesos in a trike.
If you are flying around the Philippines, Clark also becomes an attractive option for the repeated hub and spoke flight you are forced into. You can only transit through Manila and Cebu so many times before welcoming a change.

South bound busses actually stop in Makati, behind the Dusit Hotel. Handy if you are staying in the immediate area, a hot and sweaty walk if you're not (just go all the way to Pasay then taxi to your final destination). If they allow getting on at this stop then you would want to know exactly when the bus is leaving. For the same reasons as above, it will be a very uncomfortable area to wait any length of time.

Cheers. G.

Engine Driver
09-25-19, 10:41
When God was handing out beauty elixir, I was right down the back of the line and completely missed out. Then on the way down to earth, I was wacked a few times with the ugly stick. I am no threat to Don Draper, or Messrs Clooney and Pitt.

It's 5. 40 pm in AC, and here I am in bed right now with certified 9 I found on PL. I cannot fkn believe it. Viva AC.

We haven't settled on a fee for her services yet. She was too shy to give me a number and said she trusts me. She used to be a hooker in Wan Chai and certainly knows her way around a foreign cock.

Golfinho
09-25-19, 22:44
they looked like hookers to me, but dressed up looking good. With the exception of one, the girls were with way older men. By the way, not knocking the older generation because I'm now one of them.If the "stunners" you saw at Central Park were up at the restaurant on the roof that's normal. When there's live music, the place is full of Filipinas, taking selfies and whatnot, enjoying the ambiance and a night out.

GoodEnough
09-26-19, 00:38
In the old days, the ABC hotel could take your there by chopper, but I'm not sure if they still do. In any case, they used a Robinson R22, which is no longer airworthy in a few countries.
The ABC discontinued its helicopter service quite a while ago, so that's no longer an option. I've indicated a few times on this board that I have the number of a very reliable driver who can pick up passengers anywhere in Manila and take them to AC. He's got a full-size car, and I'the be glad to provide his contact information to anyone who's interested.

GE.

Engine Driver
09-26-19, 11:35
A monger wrote in a few months ago that the Mayor's directives to clean up AC meant that the bars had a limited life. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here are some observations from on the ground:

1. Freelancer Park has been demolished and all the vendors selling footwear and clothing have lost their livelihood. I don't know why they call it Freelancer Park as I've never seen any freelancers there. They've got some amusement rides there now.

2. The street urchins who would beg outside of the Kwik E Mart have all gone.

3. No plastic bags or plastic straws. When you buy bottles of water, they pack them now in flimsy paper bags. Within 2 seconds, the condensation has disintegrated the bag and you've got no way to get the water bottles back to your hotel. Nice one you environmental pricks.

4. Viagra salesman have gone.

5. The kids selling cigarettes on WS now have a cover over the tray, presumably to hide their merchandise from LE.

6. I bar hopped with my PL chick yesterday and the bars were totally boring. Went to Atlantis, XS and Xanadu. Hardly any mongers and you could've fallen asleep there as the shows were so pathetic.

7. Wechat in AC is full of LBs.

If you are coming to AC, line up your hookers on PL. In the Pampanga section, pretty much all the girls are hookers. There will be a few call centre girls or school teachers, but they too are up for action.

NewImage
09-26-19, 11:47
A monger wrote in a few months ago that the Mayor's directives to clean up AC meant that the bars had a limited life. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here are some observations from on the ground:
6. I bar hopped with my PL chick yesterday and the bars were totally boring. Went to Atlantis, XS and Xanadu. Hardly any mongers and you could've fallen asleep there as the shows were so pathetic.
If you are coming to AC, line up your hookers on PL. In the Pampanga section, pretty much all the girls are hookers. There will be a few call centre girls or school teachers, but they too are up for action.Anyone shed some light on why bars are dead? Does that mean cheaper bar fines? Suppose once high season kicks off bar scene will pick up?

Goferring
09-26-19, 12:17
6. I bar hopped with my PL chick yesterday and the bars were totally boring. Went to Atlantis, XS and Xanadu. Hardly any mongers and you could've fallen asleep there as the shows were so pathetic.I love a good bar hop with a couple of buddies and / or fun girls. However, the whole AC girlie bar business model is not sustainable:

Essentially full prepayment gives no incentive for good service.

Expanding online and civilian options for the girls mean that the pool that bars can recruit from is ever diminishing. Most employ who ever they can get and very few can insist on only pretty and outgoing girls.

With the cost and ease of travel dropping, the proportion of repeat visitors has increased. Many can arrive in their favorite town (s) with contact numbers from previous visits and not need to even enter a bar to get a girl. I rarely actually barfine a girl anymore and usually only enter a bar to drink and / or have a perv.


If you are coming to AC, line up your hookers on PL. In the Pampanga section, pretty much all the girls are hookers. There will be a few call centre girls or school teachers, but they too are up for action.The same can be said for most towns in the PI. Sure the % of hard core hookers might be lower but the same method still works. Many actually get more enjoyment from the fresher girls.

In my mind the only benefit to AC bars is the concentration of sure thing, point and shoot girls and the ability to easily hop from bar to bar to bar. Otherwise many other towns, with the same amount of effort can provide fresher girls for a fraction of the price and often in far nicer surroundings.

Cheers. G.

Goferring
09-26-19, 12:27
Anyone shed some light on why bars are dead? Does that mean cheaper bar fines? Suppose once high season kicks off bar scene will pick up?There is this little thing called the internet. 😁.

With the bars' fixed costs so high, I don't see drink nor BF prices dropping. I could see the business model move away from the old 'drinks wih the boys', 'party all night' focus to a much more ST treadmill as Pattaya and BKK have become.

Cheers. G.

Sxxxx
09-26-19, 12:38
Anyone shed some light on why bars are dead? Does that mean cheaper bar fines? Suppose once high season kicks off bar scene will pick up?Less cash flow (June to September) = danger of bars increasing the bar fines, to make up for lower cash flow. Opposite to Western World psychology / strategy, when sales / cash flow sinks. Years ago Angeles flooded with handsome guys like me = healthy cash flow, then new factors suppressed bars cash flow = bar fines went from P900 to P3000 and beyond. Not in one night, but happened. Bar fines will go up, especially if cash flow goes down. Flip logic at work.

Low season, heavy rains, flooding, misleading info on Mayor actions, all add up to very quiet AC. Myself, like EngineDriver, 1st week of September, only me in a bar of 60 plus girls, all average looking girls too, by the way. Lookers will come out, say October / Nov onwards for high season K clientele, LOL.

Engine Driver
09-27-19, 02:04
So what hasn't changed in Angeles City over the past year?

1. The trike mafia still charges 100 pesos for a short ride on the main strip. I guess the Mayor couldn't convince the mafia don to stick to the published rate guide.

2. Pot holes, pot holes and pot holes. More pot holes than back in my country. The money for pot hole repairs has been diverted to the road department's Christmas fund.

3. Food generally remains inedible haha. Good opportunity for fat mongers to lose weight. Food is exceptionally bad at Kokomo's. Even the chick I was with couldn't eat more than a mouth full of the Chicken Pad Thai. Please don't order any food at Kokomo's. It is only good for having a drink and watching people from the front bench.

4. Random girls are still shamelessly flirting with me at JJ Supermart and at the Jollibee queue. Off duty hookers doing what they do best. I'm sure it won't happen to me next week in downtown Davao City.

Mr Enternational
09-27-19, 03:18
Anyone shed some light on why bars are dead? Does that mean cheaper bar fines? Suppose once high season kicks off bar scene will pick up?I will just stick this right here:

https://www.pattayaunplugged.com/submission-thailand-is-a-beautiful-place-but-owning-a-bar-was-my-own-personal-nightmare/

Mr Enternational
09-27-19, 03:22
3. Food generally remains inedible haha. Good opportunity for fat mongers to lose weight. Food is exceptionally bad at Kokomo's. Even the chick I was with couldn't eat more than a mouth full of the Chicken Pad Thai. Please don't order any food at Kokomo's. It is only good for having a drink and watching people from the front bench.Great reports here and in the Manila thread so far ED. You got to order the chef salad and mango juice at Kokomo's. Most everything else is shit.

Engine Driver
09-27-19, 08:45
While waiting for my 5. 00 pm PL date, I popped in next door to the Brass Knob Hotel and Bar for a drink. I was very impressed. It's a very neat and tidy looking daytime bar, with about 8-10 dancers. Girls are not stunners, but okay. A little more mature but I'm sure they would give very good service. It's a very low stress bar without any hard sell. Most of the clientele was older Australian or American gentlemen. This bar is not set up for Korean or Chinese mongers LOL.

Unlike other gogos, you can order proper food here for lunch and dinner. You can bring in your laptop, use the free wifi and do some work for a few hours. It's that type of bar. The music is not so loud. It's very much a hidden treasure which gets overlooked. If you are sick of the rubbish on WS, and want a quieter set up, check out the Brass Knob.

There was a pretty lady there with a brilliant smile called Grace, whom I invited over. I bought her a LD. I had a coke. My drink was 65 pesos and her LD was 260 pesos. I also barfined her since she was lovely to be with and I told the mamasan I would collect her at 7. 00 pm. The barfine was 1800 pesos.

My plan now is to go one round with my PL date at 5. 00 pm, pay her 1500 pesos and chuck her out at 6. 30 pm. Then I will go next door and collect Grace who will go LT with me. I might need to open up that packet of elephant strength Viagra. LOL.

Engine Driver
09-27-19, 09:27
Ageing mongers will get sick often when chasing pussy in third world shitholes. Constant DFK, DATY and AR with hundreds of loose women will take its toll.

I was sick on Day 2, but it was not due to a sexual infection haha. Not knowing what to do, I rang a doctor mate back home who suggested I seek urgent medical treatment. Not knowing where to start the process in AC, I rang reception and was I advised a doctor would be sent to my room. An hour later, there's a knock on the door and in comes a young female doctor in a white doctors' coat and with a stethoscope around her neck. Following her was a young nurse in an white nurses' uniform carrying a medical kit bag. By this time I was half expecting a gurney and two gurney pushers to be waiting outside haha. Why don't we get this type of treatment in my country?

They were very professional and their diagnosis was the same as my mate's. They injected me with a couple of vials of medicines and gave me a prescription for various drugs. The bill was 4,900 pesos.

I went to their clinic today for follow up treatment. This is a first world type establishment. No monger is going to die in AC. The standard of medical care is excellent. Details are below.

Pazhalis
09-27-19, 10:03
Hey fellas,

Just arrived via Victoria Liner from MNL. Flight to Singapore departs from MNL at 9:40 pm Saturday. Any alternative to Genesis bus to reach MNL? Just read a report about their unreliability.

Also what is PL? I suppose this is a Philippines specific term as I did not find it on the abbreviations page. I'll be visiting bars on 21st Street tonight. Are there any other localities with potential for some action?

Thanks.

NewImage
09-27-19, 10:26
While waiting for my 5. 00 pm PL date, I popped in next door to the Brass Knob Hotel and Bar for a drink. I was very impressed. It's a very neat and tidy looking daytime bar, with about 8-10 dancers. Girls are not stunners, but okay. A little more mature but I'm sure they would give very good service. It's a very low stress bar without any hard sell. Most of the clientele was older Australian or American gentlemen. This bar is not set up for Korean or Chinese mongers LOL.
My plan now is to go one round with my PL date at 5. 00 pm, pay her 1500 pesos and chuck her out at 6. 30 pm. Then I will go next door and collect Grace who will go LT with me. I might need to open up that packet of elephant strength Viagra. LOL.Appreciate your intel.

WestCoast1
09-27-19, 12:49
I went to their clinic today for follow up treatment. This is a first world type establishment. No monger is going to die in AC. The standard of medical care is excellent. Details are below.Good to know. Pic reposted.

Dg8787
09-28-19, 00:24
Hey fellas,

Just arrived via Victoria Liner from MNL. Flight to Singapore departs from MNL at 9:40 pm Saturday. Any alternative to Genesis bus to reach MNL? Just read a report about their unreliability.

Also what is PL? I suppose this is a Philippines specific term as I did not find it on the abbreviations page. I'll be visiting bars on 21st Street tonight. Are there any other localities with potential for some action?

Thanks.How about a report? Now. Not in 3 months.

Wicked Roger
09-28-19, 00:41
How about a report? Now. Not in 3 months.More like 3 years looking at his FR posting history DG. Last one was similar to this. Am in Singapore (2018) in coffee shop so tell me what to do, where to go and contacts. Posted in 2015 and before all in India where they ask questions of each other (mainly digits, I needs contacts of girls).

Paz. If there for a day it is easy. If a man can't get laid in AC even if looks like the hunchback of Notre Dame and smells like a sewer he has issues as always someone will think you are handsum.

So RTFF and you will find all you need and why use PL as you are there for a day. And take a taxi as then you will get to Manila on time. Just need to RTFF about how long the journey will be on Saturdays.

PilotPaul
09-28-19, 00:52
I went to their clinic today for follow up treatment. This is a first world type establishment. No monger is going to die in AC. The standard of medical care is excellent. Details are below.I also had a good experience with that Clinic once into the room with a doctor, although mine was male.

I had called and text them and they said no appointments available. As they are located further along on Perimeter Road and I was riding past on my bike I called in. No one in the waiting area and immediately seen by a doctor.

Also, the Medical Center at Clark, emergency department does a good job with blood and other testing facilities and a pharmacy all on site.

PP.

Goferring
09-28-19, 00:57
Hey fellas,

Just arrived via Victoria Liner from MNL. Flight to Singapore departs from MNL at 9:40 pm Saturday. Any alternative to Genesis bus to reach MNL? Just read a report about their unreliability...

Thanks.Singapore to AC for one night. I admire your commitment. 😁 Saturday afternoon traffic should be ok but its advisable to still leave a lot of margin for delays. The other alternatives are car / taxi or a shuttle from the Victory Liner Pasay terminal but that will add a lot to your travel time.

PL is a PinaLove.com, a low end hook up website and app.

+1 for looking forward to reading your report.

Enjoy. G.

PilotPaul
09-28-19, 01:11
Just arrived via Victoria Liner from MNL. Flight to Singapore departs from MNL at 9:40 pm Saturday. Any alternative to Genesis bus to reach MNL? Just read a report about their unreliability..There are Jetstar and Scoot flights that depart from Clark 5:5 pm & 6:30 pm. Just trash your MNL flight and use one of these. The cost is less than the stress.

Dg8787
09-28-19, 01:37
Singapore to AC for one night. I admire your commitment. 😁 Saturday afternoon traffic should be ok but its advisable to still leave a lot of margin for delays. The other alternatives are car / taxi or a shuttle from the Victory Liner Pasay terminal but that will add a lot to your travel time.

PL is a PinaLove.com, a low end hook up website and app.

+1 for looking forward to reading your report.

Enjoy. G.I suggest he change his flight from Manila-SIN to Clark-SIN, if he can.

Goferring
09-28-19, 02:18
I suggest he change his flight from Manila-SIN to Clark-SIN, if he can.Good thinking. That's why you're paid the big bucks. 😁.

Engine Driver
09-28-19, 05:04
Gentleman, don't be afraid to go local. A lot of it is better than the western style rubbish that passes for food in AC. This meal cost me 60 pesos and was delicious. The stalls are on the side streets which run perpendicular to the main strip. I don't know what it's called over here, but me and Gofer would call this ikan bakar dan nasi putih where we come from.LOL

Kabul Guy
09-28-19, 06:18
Gentleman, don't be afraid to go local. A lot of it is better than the western style rubbish that passes for food in AC. ....Lots of great local eats everywhere, I am usually a big eater and seldom am not full for 200 p or less, including the SML to wash it down with. Never been sick from it in 2 years here and lots of years in other third world countries where I ate street foods. Just like at home you look for a local dinner with a full parking lot, look for a street vendor with people waiting to get served.

If you don't know what it is in the pots, just ask they are usually happy to tell you what it is, how it is made and why theirs is better than the same stuff across the street.

It is not only local pussy that can be cheap and satisfying. Twice, I have had the serving girl for desert, a real possibility at their end of shift time. Lots of flirting from them with the meal.

Engine Driver
09-28-19, 06:38
It is not only local pussy that can be cheap and satisfying. Twice, I have had the serving girl for desert, a real possibility at their end of shift time. Lots of flirting from them with the meal.KG, that's for sure. The two servers in this shack were totally intrigued as to why a foreigner would eat their food in their dump. They assume all fat or skinny mongers just eat meat and chips and pay 700 pesos for the privilege. They were flirting all along and kept asking me all sorts of questions. How many times have you been to Angeles, do you have a filipina girlfriend, how long you stay etc. The usual questions to check if a man is free. The trouble with that stupid PL shit is that it forces you to stick to a schedule and any spontaneous action is ruled out.

Goferring
09-28-19, 07:39
Gentleman, don't be afraid to go local. A lot of it is better than the western style rubbish that passes for food in AC.
.....

I don't know what it's called over here, but me and Gofer would call this ikan bakar dan nasi putih where we come from.LOLThe best food I have ever eaten was from riverside fish farms. If you order 3 shrimp and a fish, they walk out the back and pull 3 shrimp and a fish out of the cages in the river and cook it up there and then. Poor things are still flapping around when they hit the wok. Tastes absolutely beautiful with salads out if grandma's garden and locally grown spices.

Waterborne mercury adds additional flavour but we won't talk about that.

Contrast that with Spag Bog in Phnom Penh that nearly killed me. Never again.

Enjoy. G.

Engine Driver
09-28-19, 09:15
Are there any other localities with potential for some action?

Thanks.Yeah, just the whole of Angeles City LOL. Most new mongers start on Walking Street and then move to other areas later.

I think many of us are intrigued why you would travel all this way for 1 night in AC? Did you not read anything on Makati?

Stykler
09-28-19, 09:20
Gentleman, don't be afraid to go local. A lot of it is better than the western style rubbish that passes for food in AC. This meal cost me 60 pesos and was delicious. The stalls are on the side streets which run perpendicular to the main strip. I don't know what it's called over here, but me and Gofer would call this ikan bakar dan nasi putih where we come from.LOLYou ate there and survived? Well done!

Sidtip
09-28-19, 09:57
I went to their clinic today for follow up treatment. This is a first world type establishment. No monger is going to die in AC. The standard of medical care is excellent. Details are below.It says Cosmetic surgery on their card.

1. DO they offer Liposuction and skin jobs for the fat old farts that wobble and along the streets up there.

2. 10 years ago I took the virginity of a 19 year old (not a working girl) Chinese back here at home and it lasted a couple of years. One day she went back to China to see her parents. She came back with this cute little scar at the top end of her butt crack and I kept asking what had happened but she would never say. Last night we were back in bed after a many year gap and I asked her again. She said doctors had cut a bit of meat (maybe cartlidge or something) from in there and put in in her nose in some kind of nosejob. Funny thing was I never noticed her nose was different after the op but I noticed the scar at the top of her perfect little bottom. Seems like this one way you can tell if I girl has had a nose job. Moral of the story is. Check for scars above your girls butt cheeks before having children with her. The children might come out with her pre-surgery looks and end up looking like you instead of the current her.

Golfinho
09-28-19, 23:57
Lots of great local eats everywhere. If you don't know what it is in the pots, just ask they are usually happy to tell you what it is, how it is made and why theirs is better than the same stuff across the street. If you don't know what's in the pots, just ask if it's Pagpag. They'll be happy to tell you how it's made and why theirs is better. Try to get the recipe if you enjoy an especially good one. That's Pagpag.

Five By Five
09-29-19, 14:15
I usually time my arrival at AC so I can start off my trip with the Score Birds pool party. Its nice to see what the quality of talent will be like during my stay. Before the chicas start the bikini contest they always get wet down and get pictures taken. Anyone know if Score Birds post those pics? Would be nice to have a preview of thing right before I arrive.

Kabul Guy
09-29-19, 23:34
You ate there and survived? Well done!The local eateries everywhere can offer some great fare at a cheap price.

In Afghanistan, I had to do a lot of route studies, basically driving around a very rural area of the country seeing where would be a good route for the road I was working on. We ate in village cafes in towns of less than a hundred people, we were most likely the first foreigners ever to eat in these places, a government health inspector would have been shot had he tried to enforce hygiene standards there, that is if he didn't die of shock first.

We were always treated well, seated in places of honour and often not even charged. (We left some cash "to buy candy for the children".

Never got sick at any of them, never got shot either.

A local eatery here has no issues for me, I look for cute smiling serving staff and start asking about what is good and how it's made and return any suggestive comments, twice got lucky.

Go and spend 500 or 1000 for mass produced food where the only advantage is air conditioning, I would rather spend 150 p and have a chance of getting laid or at least of talking to some real local girls for a while.

My local favourite is a hamburger and hot dog place, 69 p for a loaded hot dog with drink (79 p for the hamburgers too). Lots of really cute high school girls hang out there, I know I cannot touch but some very nice eye candy, I like to catch them looking at me, it is fun to watch them blush and giggle, perhaps once they get used to me and when they turn 18.

Goferring
09-30-19, 01:01
You ate there and survived? Well done!I assume this was said in jest so let's continue the joke and contrast the two options:

In the red corner we have the 1000 p hamburger with fries and mayonnaise. The meat patty looks delicious and is made from Australian beef, imported a couple of months ago having passed through various wholesalers, distributors, and transport companies. Most had (barely) adequate refrigeration equipment and the frequent brown outs didn't let storage temps rise too much. Intermodal transfer saw boxes sitting on tables or docks waiting for the next carrier to arrive. The meat is bought in bulk, divided and minced with unused portions rechilled at each step for later use. It's expensive so staff have orders not to waste or dispose of anything. Said staff have no training or knowledge of food hygiene standards. They have never eaten the foods they prepare and serve. The end restaurant has an extensive menu of western dishes so it keeps numerous different ingredients on hand. Total throughput is high but the turnover of individual ingredients is low. Again, because of high costs all are kept until they are used. G eats his medium rare burger and it tastes pretty good but he wonders why he feels like shit the next day.

In the blue corner we have EDs 200 p fried fish, rice and steamed salad from a mom and pop store. They have no money for bulk buys so they go to the market every morning and buy what ever is fresh and available. Their menu is only 4 or 5 items so they buy just those ingredients. They buy enough for the day and when the ingredients run out they shut up shop and go home. Tomorrow they will do the same. Mum has never been to culinary school but the same dish has been cooked by women in her family for generations. Her mum made sure to show her how to cook it so its both delicious and healthy. Nuclear fision hot woks and lots of spices seal in the taste and kill any bugs. ED arrives, eats a delicious meal, chats to some of the people astonished to see a white guy there, a couple of girls even give him their number, and recommend a place around the corner that specialises in delicious chicken dishes. Both will do for tomorrow's lunch. Next time he comes for a meal, mom remembers him and picks out one of the bigger pieces of fish reserved for repeat visitors and serves up a larger pile of salads. ED is happy.

Enjoy. G.

D Cups
09-30-19, 17:37
I usually time my arrival at AC so I can start off my trip with the Score Birds pool party. Its nice to see what the quality of talent will be like during my stay. Before the chicas start the bikini contest they always get wet down and get pictures taken. Anyone know if Score Birds post those pics? Would be nice to have a preview of thing right before I arrive.I doubt if Scorebirds will post pics but write them and ask if you want. I went to the bikini contest September 21 and had a great time.

BroComplex
09-30-19, 19:13
I assume this was said in jest so let's continue the joke and contrast the two options:


In the blue corner we have EDs 200 p fried fish, rice and steamed salad from a mom and pop store. They have no money for bulk buys so they go to the market every morning and buy what ever is fresh and available. Their menu is only 4 or 5 items so they buy just those ingredients. They buy enough for the day and when the ingredients run out they shut up shop and go home. Tomorrow they will do the same. Mum has never been to culinary school but the same dish has been cooked by women in her family for generations. Her mum made sure to show her how to cook it so its both delicious and healthy. Nuclear fision hot woks and lots of spices seal in the taste and kill any bugs. ED arrives, eats a delicious meal, chats to some of the people astonished to see a white guy there, a couple of girls even give him their number, and recommend a place around the corner that specialises in delicious chicken dishes. Both will do for tomorrow's lunch. Next time he comes for a meal, mom remembers him and picks out one of the bigger pieces of fish reserved for repeat visitors and serves up a larger pile of salads. ED is happy.

Enjoy. G.Your mom and pop start cooking early in the morning, the food sit mostly outside. Covered but the weather is hot and humid. Whenever a customer shows up he starts removing the covers to see what's in the pot. Your pop try desperately to keep the flies away. Now you show up in the afternoon picking in up a meal that was made hours ago, sitting outside in the hot weather and was probably touched by ever customer before you. Enjoy your food poisoning just to save a couple of hundreds peso.

WestCoast1
09-30-19, 19:27
Your pop try desperately to keep the flies away. Now you show up in the afternoon picking in up a meal that was made hours ago, sitting outside in the hot weather and was probably touched by ever customer before you. Enjoy your food poisoning just to save a couple of hundreds peso.If that were true, it would happen to most everyone who ate it. Why don't I get sick from eating street foods?

Sammon
09-30-19, 21:31
If that were true, it would happen to most everyone who ate it. Why don't I get sick from eating street foods?I believe you live in Philippines. Consequently you have built up immunity to street food poisoning. But for a casual visitor even a small taste of contaminated food can trigger a massive sickness at best diarrhea and at worst dehydration and hospital visit or death.

Having said that there are some people who never get sick irrespective of what they eat. Andrew zimmer from bizarre food comes to mind. Maybe he takes protective antibiotics before he eats all kind of crazy foods.

Most experts say to stick to hot street foods. Even then quality of the meat, cooking oil, hygiene will all contribute to toxins in the food. Toxins cannot be eliminated by cooking.

Dg8787
09-30-19, 21:48
I believe you live in Philippines. Consequently you have built up immunity to street food poisoning. But for a casual visitor even a small taste of contaminated food can trigger a massive sickness at best diarrhea and at worst dehydration and hospital visit or death.

Having said that there are some people who never get sick irrespective of what they eat. Andrew zimmer from bizarre food comes to mind. Maybe he takes protective antibiotics before he eats all kind of crazy foods.

Most experts say to stick to hot street foods. Even then quality of the meat, cooking oil, hygiene will all contribute to toxins in the food. Toxins cannot be eliminated by cooking.Most sickness is borne from the plates and utensils for the lack good hygienic washing. Most places do not have a good supply of hot water to wash plates and utensil with. If you look closely they will have 3 pans of water. They will dip the plates and utensils in the first one to to clear it. Then wash them with soap in the second pan and dip and rinse in the 3rd pan. After that they will drip dry out in the open air. Some places might place the utensils in a pot of hot boiling water to sanitize.

Best to bring your own plate and utensils to eat with.

It certainly isnt any fun to get the runs while you are in the middle of pumping some sweet warm wet poon! (Ask me how I know?)

Sxxxx
09-30-19, 22:44
In reference to bacteria / germ posts recently.

Swipe eating utensils with "isopropyl alcohol" (Pads, cloth, 70% or more saturated with same).

Easily purchased in your local country at Pharmacy / Drug Store / Chemist shop / s. Pack securely in your check in bag / suitcase. Not allowed in carry on.

Swiping the plate covered with food, well, that is a difficult one, LOL.

Swipe bar drinking glasses, tea cups, and your dick if you like, too, LOL. Tuberculosis is rife in Phils and readily transported via the above mentioned eating / drinking utensils.

I have survived 45 years of Phil eating, but mostly luck I suspect.

Kabul Guy
09-30-19, 23:02
I believe you live in Philippines. Consequently you have built up immunity to street food poisoning. But for a casual visitor even a small taste of contaminated food can trigger a massive sickness at best diarrhea and at worst dehydration and hospital visit or death.
.....Try Dukoral, it is an oral vaccine that provides protection against cholera for 5 years and also e. Coli for 3 months. Start is two doses at 6 weeks between then one dose to renew your protection.

Cost is $CDN 50 in Canada, no prescription needed. Not available in Philippines, not sure other countries.

WestCoast1
10-01-19, 00:08
I believe you live in Philippines. Consequently you have built up immunity to street food poisoning. But for a casual visitor even a small taste of contaminated food can trigger a massive sickness at best diarrhea and at worst dehydration and hospital visit or death.SNIP Having said that there are some people who never get sick irrespective of what they eat. I was a long-time weekend warrior there, and still spend good chunks of time there. I have been sick multiple times there with the symptoms of a cold, but only once from what might have been a food problem (Cebu), a hard 24-hour intestinal thing.


Most sickness is borne from the plates and utensils for the lack good hygienic washing. Most places do not have a good supply of hot water to wash plates and utensil with. If you look closely they will have 3 pans of water. They will dip the plates and utensils in the first one to to clear it. Then wash them with soap in the second pan and dip and rinse in the 3rd pan. After that they will drip dry out in the open air. Some places might place the utensils in a pot of hot boiling water to sanitize.Best to bring your own plate and utensils to eat with.Have witnessed the most horrific such instances of washing dishes in the provinces especially. Worst example: Someone grabs the dirty plates and soaks them all in a small tub of water that has no soap in it. A bit later they take a dirty rag and wipe each dish and set it aside in a heap to air dry (when raining, and it could take many hours to dry); the dirty water is thrown outside near the trash heap, and the dirty dishrag is set aside to use tomorrow.

BTW, when I was younger, every bar I went into did something similar to DG's description with empty drink glasses: Dip it (twice) into a tray of cold soapy water (its been sitting there being utilized all night), then dip it into a tray of clear water (also not empties all night), then set aside to dry and re-use.


Swipe eating utensils with "isopropyl alcohol" (Pads, cloth, 70% or more saturated with same). SNIP Swiping the plate covered with food, well, that is a difficult one, LOL. Swipe bar drinking glasses, tea cups, and your dick if you like, too, LOL. Tuberculosis is rife in Phils and readily transported via the above mentioned eating / drinking utensils. I have survived 45 years of Phil eating, but mostly luck I suspect.Holy sh*t! Interestingly, I use the anti-bac wipes from the drug store and let my twin-packs use one to clean Johnson between girls. Never thought of taking them (the wipes) to a restaurant.


Try Dukoral, it is an oral vaccine that provides protection against cholera for 5 years and also e. Coli for 3 months. Start is two doses at 6 weeks between then one dose to renew your protection. Cost is $CDN 50 in Canada, no prescription needed. Not available in Philippines, not sure other countries.Thanks!

Goferring
10-01-19, 00:18
Most sickness is borne from the plates and utensils for the lack good hygienic washing. Agreed. I'm far more concerned about the water and ice than the food. Generally skip ice and only drink water that has been boiled vigorously. It's no coincidence that tea is so popular as a drink of choice throughout Asia.

It can also be simple unfamiliarity with the ingredients. Spices, chilies or even unfamiliar cuts of meat can be perfectly hygienic bit still cause Traveller's Belly.


Swipe eating utensils with "isopropyl alcohol" (Pads, cloth, 70% or more saturated with same).


Try Dukoral, it is an oral vaccine that provides protection against cholera for 5 years and also e. Coli for 3 months. I'm not suggesting being fool hardy but all the active protection options don't seem to work as well as just going to places that serve 100's of local people every lunchtime. If people were getting sick there, word would soon spread and customers would dry up quickly.

I do agree that you do build up a tolerance to new foods and different tastes.

Enjoy. G.

Kabul Guy
10-01-19, 00:57
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I'm not suggesting being fool hardy but all the active protection options don't seem to work as well as just going to places that serve 100's of local people every lunchtime. If people were getting sick there, word would soon spread and customers would dry up quickly.
....I said in a previous post, go to the ones where the locals are, not only better hygiene but usually better tasting food as well.

At home, look for the diner with all the local cars in front, no difference here.

(Don't go by big trucks at home, it just may indicate the best parking spots for them.)

Sxxxx
10-01-19, 01:49
"Not allowed in carry on bag". When I said that, I was referring to bottles of isopropyl alcohol. The mini pads themselves, no problem, can be in carry on bag. Buying a bottle of the stuff and wetting a 'pad' is the cheapest, and most effective way, in my opinion.

I believe the P5000/10,000 girls insist on swiping your dick with the (mini) "ISO" pads before a blow job. Cost of (mini) pads graciously included in the 5/10 grand fee.

NewImage
10-01-19, 03:07
Going from Manila to Subic. Bought some water on the bus. Obviously they just refilled it out the tap. So bad had to cut my trip short and fly home. Was going both ends. Felt like shit. Doc said water borne bug.
2nd time. Bought hot dog at airport. Sat on toilet almost all the way home. Projectile vomit at times. My doc is giving me antibiotics before I go this time. Pray not 3 times unlucky.I have dodgy stomach at best of times. Sorry not going to risk it with street food (although have ate at Jalan Alor many a time and never been sick).
NI.

PilotPaul
10-01-19, 04:04
Going from Manila to Subic. Bought some water on the bus. Obviously they just refilled it out the tap. So bad had to cut my trip short and fly home. Was going both ends. Felt like shit. Doc said water borne bug.
2nd time. Bought hot dog at airport. Sat on toilet almost all the way home. Projectile vomit at times. My doc is giving me antibiotics before I go this time. Pray not 3 times unlucky.I have dodgy stomach at best of times. Sorry not going to risk it with street food (although have ate at Jalan Alor many a time and never been sick).
NI.Do your best. I carry a range of antibiotics. But prevention is best.

A) Buy branded water.

B) wash hands regularly.

C) only eat fresh pussy.

To be honest on the trips that I engage with a lower number of Filipina, I get sick less. When we sleep with dogs we get up with fleas.

PP.

WestCoast1
10-01-19, 04:08
I do agree that you do build up a tolerance to new foods and different tastes.In my example of where they clean the dishes by just wiping them with a wet rag, have eaten there with the locals many times, never got sick. The only thing I avoid is tap water (bottle water or RH is the preference). From so many things in life, I should be dead now.

Goferring
10-01-19, 04:36
In my example of where they clean the dishes by just wiping them with a wet rag, have eaten there with the locals many times, never got sick. The only thing I avoid is tap water (bottle water or RH is the preference). From so many things in life, I should be dead now.For my first long stint overseas (in a country with pretty much no hygiene standards) in the beginning I would alternate between feeling great and feeling like shit over 4 to 10 day cycles. After 4 years, I just felt 'off' the whole time rather than peaks and troughs. I'm pretty much sure that's why I can now eat decaying road kill and not feel any I'll effects.

Joke: What's worse than finding a cockroach baked into your cake? A: Half a cockroach. 😁.

I've also eaten untold local and street food: numerous cholera carts, roadside markets, beers and river ice, and fish from polluted waterways. I'd be lying if I said I've NEVER been sick but the mild upsets were nothing compared to thinking I was going to die after Spagetti Bolognese in Phnom Penh.

I stand by my assertion that local food is much safer to eat than foreign but obviously if you do have a tender stomach or are new to travelling then take appropriate precautions. True Gastro maladies can indeed be holiday ending, or worse.

Enjoy. G.

Engine Driver
10-01-19, 07:22
Most sickness is borne from the plates and utensils for the lack good hygienic washing. Most places do not have a good supply of hot water to wash plates and utensil with. If you look closely they will have 3 pans of water. They will dip the plates and utensils in the first one to to clear it. Then wash them with soap in the second pan and dip and rinse in the 3rd pan. After that they will drip dry out in the open air. Some places might place the utensils in a pot of hot boiling water to sanitize.

Best to bring your own plate and utensils to eat with.

It certainly isnt any fun to get the runs while you are in the middle of pumping some sweet warm wet poon! (Ask me how I know?)In most Asian countries, people do not use toilet paper. They either use the butt blaster or a pail of water and their bare fingers to clean their asses. You would hope the cook or server then thoroughly wash their hands with soap. Most places do not have soap. Therein lies the rub.

Tasty faecal matter on your plate.

Enzo2019
10-01-19, 10:44
Going from Manila to Subic. Bought some water on the bus. Obviously they just refilled it out the tap. So bad had to cut my trip short and fly home. Was going both ends. Felt like shit. Doc said water borne bug.
2nd time. Bought hot dog at airport. Sat on toilet almost all the way home. Projectile vomit at times. My doc is giving me antibiotics before I go this time. Pray not 3 times unlucky.I have dodgy stomach at best of times. Sorry not going to risk it with street food (although have ate at Jalan Alor many a time and never been sick).
NI.Sorry to hear this mate, I really appreciate all your posts on the Kuala Lumpur forum, all the information given has been immensely helpful.

I've been using colloidal silver to sanitize water, cutlery etc. Have a read up on it, there isn't a single cell organism that can survive contact with it. HIV included. If you are unlucky enough to have a dose of sickness and shits then avoid eating and only sip on fluids. Also try using high quality probiotics any time you have loose stools, a couple of capsules should have you back to regular, maybe a couple of days of use if it's more severe. Some people are lucky enough to have cast iron stomachs and can eat anything without the unpleasantries, I'm not so lucky so I try to cover all bases.

Get well soon, cheers.

WestCoast1
10-01-19, 13:30
SNIP Most places do not have soap. Therein lies the rub. Tasty faecal matter on your plate.Haha! Killing me here! And it should not be funny, right? Bwahahahahahahahaha!

D Cups
10-01-19, 16:08
For my first long stint overseas (in a country with pretty much no hygiene standards) in the beginning I would alternate between feeling great and feeling like shit over 4 to 10 day cycles. After 4 years, I just felt 'off' the whole time rather than peaks and troughs. I'm pretty much sure that's why I can now eat decaying road kill and not feel any I'll effects.

Joke: What's worse than finding a cockroach baked into your cake? A: Half a cockroach. 😁.

I've also eaten untold local and street food: numerous cholera carts, roadside markets, beers and river ice, and fish from polluted waterways. I'd be lying if I said I've NEVER been sick but the mild upsets were nothing compared to thinking I was going to die after Spagetti Bolognese in Phnom Penh.

I stand by my assertion that local food is much safer to eat than foreign but obviously if you do have a tender stomach or are new to travelling then take appropriate precautions. True Gastro maladies can indeed be holiday ending, or worse.

Enjoy. G.Indeed almost every time I go to PI I invariably get the shits and severe vomiting no doubt food poisoning or bad water so I take plenty of antacids, Advil, kaopectate, cough medicine and emetrol with me every time I travel now. I'm sure the Viagra and kamagra exacerbates the symptoms, too.

Dg8787
10-01-19, 17:19
Someday hopefully soon someone might get some sex here and submit a report.

Turgid
10-01-19, 17:56
In most Asian countries, people do not use toilet paper. They either use the butt blaster or a pail of water and their bare fingers to clean their asses. You would hope the cook or server then thoroughly wash their hands with soap. Most places do not have soap. Therein lies the rub.

Tasty faecal matter on your plate.Like when you thought you were eating brown rice but it was really white rice.

GoodEnough
10-02-19, 00:42
Indeed almost every time I go to PI I invariably get the shits and severe vomiting no doubt food poisoning or bad water so I take plenty of antacids, Advil, kaopectate, cough medicine and emetrol with me every time I travel now. I'm sure the Viagra and kamagra exacerbates the symptoms, too.In my approximately 18 years here I've had dysentery exactly once, and that was my own fault; eating an unwashed, fresh out of the soil mushroom. Of course I didn't realize that at the time. During my time in Africa I, together with the rest of my colleagues, got it frequently, and we learned to travel with multiple full-cycle Cipro treatments, which cleared up the problems pretty quickly. When I did get amoebic dysentery here, I (and my doctor) knew exactly what to do, and. I got the correct antibiotic quickly and was cured quickly.

I can't speak to the sanitation standards of other places, but here in Davao, the Department of Health seems to take its inspection role pretty seriously. We own a "Western" restaurant, and we do get inspected. We also maintain the place to Western health standards, and we're meticulous in reaching and monitoring our employees. I have Western friends who also own European restaurants here, and their hygiene standards are also high.

GE.

Sammon
10-02-19, 01:14
Someday hopefully soon someone might get some sex here and submit a report.Who has the time or inclination to have sex when you are puking your brains out and running to the rest room every five minutes LOL.

In almost every country I visited And had street food I had gotten sick. Even in advanced countries. Sometimes it is just the dust flown around by breeze.

It is always better to sit in air con restaurants and eat.

Sxxxx
10-02-19, 01:15
Regarding where its safe to eat. I eat at foreign owned Restaurants, on the presumption, fingers and legs crossed, that the owner will respect western hygiene standards. Consequently, when in Angeles, I eat at Margarita Station, and Kokomo's (british owned and managed). Decor at Margarita leaves a lot to be desired, but then I do not want to eat the decor. Slow serving / wait, but worth it.

You can expect Filipino owned Restaurants to be guided by Filipino standards of hygiene for their Filipino customers. Exceptions prevail, eg Lighthouse in Cebu. Great place for seafood. Personal opinion only, of course.

I'm never that hungry, that I east pussy, except if the 'target' is fresh and 'unused'. Hard, if not impossible to find, in the Philippines.

NewImage
10-02-19, 01:29
Sorry to hear this mate, I really appreciate all your posts on the Kuala Lumpur forum, all the information given has been immensely helpful.
I've been using colloidal silver to sanitize water, cutlery etc. Have a read up on it, there isn't a single cell organism that can survive contact with it. HIV included. If you are unlucky enough to have a dose of sickness and shits then avoid eating and only sip on fluids. Also try using high quality probiotics any time you have loose stools, a couple of capsules should have you back to regular, maybe a couple of days of use if it's more severe. Some people are lucky enough to have cast iron stomachs and can eat anything without the unpleasantries, I'm not so lucky so I try to cover all bases.
Get well soon, cheers.Just did a quick google research on colloidal silver and it "appears" its not recommended nor clinically proven.

How do you use it?

NewImage
10-02-19, 01:32
Someday hopefully soon someone might get some sex here and submit a report.If they are shitting and spewing. Be patient my good man. I'm sure there will be a plethora of reports once high season kicks in.

Golfinho
10-02-19, 02:36
The only thing I avoid is tap water (bottle water or RH is the preference). From so many things in life, I should be dead now.At these places, if the only thing you avoid is tap water, you must have enjoyed Pagpag innumerable times.

Enzo2019
10-02-19, 02:55
Just did a quick google research on colloidal silver and it "appears" its not recommended nor clinically proven.

How do you use it?Lots of things that are not clinically proven are demonised because big pharma can't profit off of it. It comes as a simple solution based on ppm (parts per million) and is used topically on the skin, in the eyes, ears or can be ingested. It's even safe to use on your pets. I can attest to its anti-bacterial and healing properties, I use for any cuts and grazes and my wounds have never gotten infected and heal much faster. A friend of mine who lives in HCMC has had repeated cases of athletes foot, the humidity and heat makes it worse and regular off the shelf creams haven't been working. He's 3 days into using colloidal silver I gave him before I left Vietnam and he's reporting a major reduction of infection to the point where it is almost gone. I've also instructed him to spray the solution in his shoes and flip flops to kill off any bacteria, pleased that he's reported that his once 'funky' shoes are now neutral smelling. I've also used it on mould prone areas around the house and guess what, no more mould. Sore throat or bad breath? Gargle with the silver solution and it will clear right up.

All my findings are anecdotal so take of it what you will. The fact that scientists are yet to find any single celled organism that can survive contact with colloidal silver speaks volumes for me, that goes for viral, bacterial and fungal. Of course you're going to find lots of discrediting info out there. Your skin turning blue being one of them. The best thing is to do some research and try for yourself, I certainly would not be recommending it if my findings were not so resoundingly positive.

Sincerely hope you're feeling better mate, cheers.

Engine Driver
10-02-19, 04:14
Haha! Killing me here! And it should not be funny, right? Bwahahahahahahahaha!Sorry to spoil your breakfast of French toast, crispy bacon, maple syrup and eggs over easy today. Just don't smell the plate too closely.

Engine Driver
10-02-19, 11:07
I went barhopping with a chick last week in AC and went into La Bamba on Walking Street. I was very impressed by the line up. All girls were cute 18-22 year olds. The mamasan had picked them well. No baby damage and no jolli bellies were to be seen. You could have closed your eyes and picked anyone. The place was quite packed, with mainly western gentlemen in the 50-70 year range. Nice atmosphere. When my chick went to the CR, I took out several 20 peso notes and started sticking them in the top elastic of the girls' thongs. It was appreciated. I finished just in time before my chick arrived back.

I barfined from here last year. I took out a stunning Filipina / Melanesian chick and she performed really well. You could do worse than spend 3,000 pesos here. Give it a visit.

Engine Driver
10-02-19, 11:55
Someday hopefully soon someone might get some sex here and submit a report.I wrote in a couple of weeks ago that I had pre-booked a bar girl who was advertising on PL. Her name was Tamara and she worked at the Las Vegas bar, a notorious K-joint. Well, after mindlessly chatting in broken English for a few weeks through Viber, I ended up meeting her for a real "date", inside the bar she was working at. Last Thursday, I showered, put on my best shirt, jeans, leather boots and drenched myself with nice perfume before heading out to Las Vegas Bar for my romantic date. Now Tamara is a first class blabber mouth who just couldn't keep anything quiet. It appears she had already told the mamasan, the manager, the barman and all her work colleagues at the bar that her hot, exotic boyfriend was coming in from Down Under to sweep her off her feet. As I entered the bar, they were all expecting me and gave me a rock star welcome. The only thing that didn't happen was for two naked chicks to drop rose petals in front of me as I walked.

Tamara didn't quite look like her PL photos. Now wasn't that a surprise? Hahahahaha. She was just too short, had massive tits, and a spare tire around her waste. Her face was cute enough so she wasn't a complete reject. And she had bad breath, perhaps from gingivitus (not related to Sammon's ginger test). I think many of the girls have exceptionally poor oral hygiene. Tamara nearly fainted. I do not think she could believe her luck. LOL. All her friends, the mamasan and the waitresses came and made comments to her about how lucky she was to catch such a tall, handsome boyfriend. (At this point, you should read my previous post on my being hit with the ugly stick).

So we chatted mindless stuff for a few minutes. Province, children, how long she had been here etc. I bought her an LD. There was no way I could get out of this now without everyone seriously losing face. I said to Tamara that we should go. She wanted to know where we were headed as part of date night. Little did she realise that I was just going back to the hotel to bust a nut, before kicking her out in record time. LOL. I paid the 3,500 bar fine and took my instant girlfriend out. We stopped by Jollibee to for takeout.

Upon entering the room, I could see Tamara was very disappointed. She wanted a night of excitement, fine dining, wine drinking and dancing, with sex purely at her discretion. Yet her boyfriend had just bought her straight to the room. Things were not going to her plan. I got her to brush her teeth and take a shower, which she reluctantly did. I tried to kiss her and she resisted. The drama had started. No BBBJ, no DFK and no DATY. I said to her that I had paid 3,500 pesos as a barfine and I was going to fuck her. She then started crying saying that she just wanted me to be her boyfriend and not just treat her like a bar girl. I asked her why she told me to meet at the bar and not outside the bar? I could hear the cogs in her peanut sized brain moving, but she didn't understand the situation. I said that as I paid the barfine, I was going to fuck her. So I put on a condom and fucked her. It was not easy to get excited in this situation. I turned her over and pounded her doggy. The sight of her huge tits wobbling finally got me over the line.

I then told her to leave. She just started crying again. She got dressed and left. I then received a huge text from her saying how I got it all wrong blah blah blah and that she's not a bad person blah blah blah. A picture of her tits is in the Photo Gallery section, post #9476.

The moral of the story is to stay away from PL in AC. You just don't need it and it is always better to see, prod and taste the merchandise before deciding to buy it. PL doesn't allow you to do any of that.

Mr Enternational
10-02-19, 12:10
The moral of the story is to stay away from PL in AC. You just don't need it and it is always better to see, prod and taste the merchandise before deciding to buy it. PL doesn't allow you to do any of that.Or to meet them outside of work for 1000 pesos like I was saying before. So this was one of those top Korean bar chicks that cause westerners to envy Koreans huh? LOL. Great story ED.

NewImage
10-02-19, 12:12
I wrote in a couple of weeks ago that I had pre-booked a bar girl who was advertising on PL. Her name was Tamara and she worked at the Las Vegas bar, a notorious K-joint.
The moral of the story is to stay away from PL in AC. You just don't need it and it is always better to see, prod and taste the merchandise before deciding to buy it. PL doesn't allow you to do any of that.Been really tossing up whether to invest time into PL or not. I suppose you might strike a real non pro but chances of that in Angeles is prob pretty low. My experience (not great but 4 trips to Phil) says go shopping when you are there as supply is enormous and you can see, hear and test drive before you get locked into "situation". BTW La Bamba was 3 k barfine. Any extra payment after? I'll be paying 4000 in Sabang but that will be my limit (give or take small tips or food for her).
Keep the posts coming - very helpful.

NI.

Engine Driver
10-02-19, 12:20
Been really tossing up whether to invest time into PL or not. I suppose you might strike a real non pro but chances of that in Angeles is prob pretty low. My experience (not great but 4 trips to Phil) says go shopping when you are there as supply is enormous and you can see, hear and test drive before you get locked into "situation". BTW La Bamba was 3 k barfine. Any extra payment after? I'll be paying 4000 in Sabang but that will be my limit (give or take small tips or food for her).
Keep the posts coming - very helpful.

NI.I didn't barfine at La Bamba this time as me missus (another bar wench) was with me. I think it was 3,000 last year and I gave the chick a 500 tip for great service. She was one of the best roots I've had from a bar girl in AC.

Using PL in AC would be like going to Eskimo Land and buying a fridge to store your fish.

BrainDrain
10-02-19, 13:52
The moral of the story is to stay away from PL in AC. You just don't need it and it is always better to see, prod and taste the merchandise before deciding to buy it. PL doesn't allow you to do any of that.I would prefer to rephrase that "stay away from PL in AC if you are hunting BG". I've had excellent experiences with the non bar girl types. My MO is for the out of towners.

Sammon
10-02-19, 14:28
Been really tossing up whether to invest time into PL or not. I suppose you might strike a real non pro but chances of that in Angeles is prob pretty low. My experience (not great but 4 trips to Phil) says go shopping when you are there as supply is enormous and you can see, hear and test drive before you get locked into "situation". BTW La Bamba was 3 k barfine. Any extra payment after? I'll be paying 4000 in Sabang but that will be my limit (give or take small tips or food for her).
Keep the posts coming - very helpful.

NI.There are three main groups of girls to pick.

1. Dancers, waitresses, mamasans, - pretty much any female working at the bar. All can be taken out if they will go with you. Generally barfine ranges from 1800 - 4000 . Generally a tip of 500 is appreciated.

2. Street walkers, ex bar girls, Disco girls, massage girls. You meet, greet, discuss, negotiate and take them.

3. Pretty much any other girl you meet at restaurants, mall, online. Depending on their monetary need will go with you. AC is a brothel town and girls are least worried about their reputation being harmed.

All have different experiences with the girls irrespective of cost. Fair to great. Gone are the days of total satisfaction when you visit mongering places in any part of the world.

Engine Driver
10-04-19, 01:46
It says Cosmetic surgery on their card.

1. DO they offer Liposuction and skin jobs for the fat old farts that wobble and along the streets up there.Yes they do. All those 350 lb fat old farts that wobble along WS enter this clinic and come out looking like Don Draper. They have to be able to afford the 100 peso trike fare to get to the clinic first.

Goferring
10-04-19, 02:40
I've had excellent experiences with the non bar girl types. My MO is for the out of towners.So you're importing girls into AC?

I'm not throwing shade on your MO: you are free to spend your money on what ever activities you enjoy.

I'm just wondering what benefits there are in importing tea into China when there are waitresses, SM salesgirls, dental hygenists and other nonBG options all ready in town. Aren't you just adding cost and selection risk vs chatting to the girl standing in front of you at the restaurant / mall / pharmacy?

Cheers. G.

Member #4667
10-04-19, 03:16
So you're importing girls into AC?

I'm not throwing shade on your MO: you are free to spend your money on what ever activities you enjoy.

I'm just wondering what benefits there are in importing tea into China when there are waitresses, SM salesgirls, dental hygenists and other nonBG options all ready in town. Aren't you just adding cost and selection risk vs chatting to the girl standing in front of you at the restaurant / mall / pharmacy?

Cheers. G.Its the same guys asking for African girls in Bangkok, rather than looking for things that are in high supply they want to make things harder and play white knight / lotharia.