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BodyAnybody
04-16-20, 15:38
Here's the article courtesy of the NY Times. These aren't normal times. Currently the mortality rate in the US is 50 times what it would be in a typical flu season as the virus moves into very vulnerable populations like nursing homes. It's deadly. In a nursing home, it's like an angel of death, taking these poor souls before they know what is happening.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/nyregion/coronavirus-deaths-hart-island-burial.htmlPeople like you and the guy I quoted should stfu. The article you posted says that the island has been used in this fashion since the Spanish flu. It also says that it isxunclear if the bodiesxin thexfootage died of corrona virus or are just bodies thzy ste routinely buried their. Death rates are 50 times normal? Most, you liar. They are over twice then normal in New York.
Feel some shame for your behavior if you have any decency.
Millions of people in my country are also suffering. I see that stranded guys, unable to get to LBFMs, are trolling LinkedIn and offering newly unemployed air-hostesses etc the opportunity to become a BWFM.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
That LBFM was only interested in graduating to a monger offering a bigger cash allowance. As far as she is concerned, the only academic credentials she needs are her certifications in BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, BBBJCIM, and 3 SUM.
A very common story: two or more guys trying to out bid each other in a remote, dial in, auction while guys in town are road testing the goods on dayhire rates as well. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Chocha Monger
04-17-20, 01:43
Millions of people in my country are also suffering. Businesses will close, banks will foreclose on home mortgages, people will lose their jobs, marriages will be destroyed and kids will suffer. No time to think about those LBFMs in the Philippines when there's so much that can be done for our own people at home.
LBFMs will find a way to survive in the provinces and fishing villages as mentioned by others on this forum. Shit, it doesn't cost much to live in those villages. Nipa huts don't even have electricity.
Mongers who continue to donate money to desperate LBFMs do so knowing that they will never see a return on their investment. It will be 18 months before any horny monger lands at NAIA, hoping to get his marshmallow cock sucked by a nubile, 18-year old fuck toy. 18-months is a long time to pursue a LBFM. Half the airline industry might not even survive.Before mongers wire their favorite LBFMs cash, they should look at this video. https://www.facebook.com/pilipinosakuwait/videos/516428442381449/.
For those who never bothered to learn what their LBFMs say in their native tongue here is a quick summary. The LBFM in the video is admonishing her ambitious trike driver husband who complained about having to eat sardines and his meager 6,000 peso allowance. He demanded that she send him 12,000 pesos as his remittance so he can eat chicken and pork like a BIG shot! From Kuwait, the furious LBFM unleashes hell on her impudent trike driver husband for his ambition and dreams of living life as a big shot. ROTFLMAO! Mongers should take note the next time their LBFM calls or messages demanding a cash handout from Whiteman Land.
TurdyCurdyOne
04-17-20, 02:22
That LBFM was only interested in graduating to a monger offering a bigger cash allowance. As far as she is concerned, the only academic credentials she needs are her certifications in BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, BBBJCIM, and 3 SUM.
Pinays always put their families first when they are raking in the cash from mongers. Now that mongers have fled town due to coronavirus and fired their long-time GFE LBFMs, the girls will return to their families to tide over the rough times. If they need extra cash the families will lean a bit harder on their OFW relatives. They do not need cash from mongers to survive.Yeah this idea that Filipinos are dirt poor and on the verge of starvation is total BS. They are only poor because they want to spend YOUR money and not their own. When push comes to shove, they come up with the money and unlike the USA they have extensive extended family connections to help them. Only exception to this are ones living in the Manila and other city squatter areas who have no skills, no language, etc. There are a lot of filipinos WITH money, often more than the average monger.
TurdyCurdyOne
04-17-20, 02:22
Here's the article courtesy of the NY Times. These aren't normal times. Currently the mortality rate in the US is 50 times what it would be in a typical flu season as the virus moves into very vulnerable populations like nursing homes. It's deadly. In a nursing home, it's like an angel of death, taking these poor souls before they know what is happening.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/nyregion/coronavirus-deaths-hart-island-burial.htmlYou mean the "failing" "lying" NYT?
Mr Enternational
04-17-20, 05:46
Millions of people in my country are also suffering. Businesses will close, banks will foreclose on home mortgages, people will lose their jobs, marriages will be destroyed and kids will suffer. No time to think about those LBFMs in the Philippines when there's so much that can be done for our own people at home.
Mongers who continue to donate money to desperate LBFMs do so knowing that they will never see a return on their investment. It will be 18 months before any horny monger lands at NAIA, hoping to get his marshmallow cock sucked by a nubile, 18-year old fuck toy. 18-months is a long time to pursue a LBFM. Half the airline industry might not even survive.This sounds exactly like some shit that I posted over a month ago, but was told it was more important to keep those poor precious Pinay on the payroll than to hold on to your own raingear for the upcoming storm. Now I am of the opinion that they could still use plenty of help, so do the right thing and keep the money flowing to them.
PedroMorales
04-17-20, 08:50
It will be 18 months before any horny monger lands at NAIA, hoping to get his marshmallow cock sucked by a nubile, 18-year old fuck toy. 18-months is a long time to pursue a LBFM. Half the airline industry might not even survive.I suspect you are right. Global supply chains, those for LBFMs included, have taken a hard knock and they cannot just get up and going again at the drop of a hat. These is no knowing when Duterte might blow the whistle on action again, just like he is playing games with trikes.
Millions of people in my country are also suffering. Businesses will close, banks will foreclose on home mortgages, people will lose their jobs, marriages will be destroyed and kids will suffer. No time to think about those LBFMs in the Philippines when there's so much that can be done for our own people at home.
LBFMs will find a way to survive in the provinces and fishing villages as mentioned by others on this forum. Shit, it doesn't cost much to live in those villages. Nipa huts don't even have electricity.
Mongers who continue to donate money to desperate LBFMs do so knowing that they will never see a return on their investment. It will be 18 months before any horny monger lands at NAIA, hoping to get his marshmallow cock sucked by a nubile, 18-year old fuck toy. 18-months is a long time to pursue a LBFM. Half the airline industry might not even survive.Sounds like your country sucks worst than PH. Your life might get worst. Possibly some kind hearted forgiving Pinays can get together and send you a life saving sack of rice.
Nothing hard about it. Either you want to send money to help someone out or not. It is that simple.
By all concerns we are in uncharted waters and people need help for food. Most likely they are not telling you a BS story.
Bottom line you want to help or not. Deal with it.Point is who you want to help? If you really want to help poor, then help those who are have nothing to eat for next day. Most WGs have enough saving to last for a while. And most are already fucking someone to get money. And I am not talking about Cam shows.
Ofcourse someone can give money to anyone, it's their choice. But there's a clear difference between donating to someone in need or donating by buying some BS story.
Engine Driver
04-18-20, 01:16
Sounds like your country sucks worst than PH. Your life might get worst. Possibly some kind hearted forgiving Pinays can get together and send you a life saving sack of rice.Yeah I told those LBFMs not to send me bags of rice. Too many carbs will destroy my six pack.
Chocha Monger
04-19-20, 02:06
Yeah I told those LBFMs not to send me bags of rice. Too many carbs will destroy my six pack.Yeah, I doubt all that golden rice will pair well with your customary glass of Chateau Lafite Rothschild at dinner.
It will be 18 months before any horny monger lands at NAIA, hoping to get his marshmallow cock sucked by a nubile, 18-year old fuck toy. 18-months is a long time to pursue a LBFM. Half the airline industry might not even survive.The worst part about this is that the LBFM will be 19 by then!
Engine Driver
04-20-20, 10:48
Yeah, I doubt all that golden rice will pair well with your customary glass of Chateau Lafite Rothschild at dinner.While other mongers are still in quarantine wearing out the fast forward button on their remotes as they watch FuckySucky.com and SlopeBang.com in isolation, it's time for me to have celebratory glass of Davao's finest plonk. Our PM has done a great job during this crises and restrictions might be lifted here soon. Not shortage of Asian hookers where I am and it's not much more than what those wily Pinays demand in Flipsville.
I really can't see any upside for the Philippines or Thailand. Mongering is never going to be the same.
I really can't see any upside for the Philippines or Thailand. Mongering is never going to be the same.Because in Ph we can get live-in or overnight for the same price as our local Asian girl charges for one hour.
Chocha Monger
04-21-20, 04:37
While other mongers are still in quarantine wearing out the fast forward button on their remotes as they watch FuckySucky.com and SlopeBang.com in isolation, it's time for me to have celebratory glass of Davao's finest plonk. Our PM has done a great job during this crises and restrictions might be lifted here soon. Not shortage of Asian hookers where I am and it's not much more than what those wily Pinays demand in Flipsville.
I really can't see any upside for the Philippines or Thailand. Mongering is never going to be the same.Post-pandemic mongering is going to be very different. Many oldie mongers are now dead. Those who are still alive are taking a big risk traveling thousands of miles to buy pussy. There will be additional entry requirements to enter the Philippines for random copulation with LBFMs. Hotels might not be so happy to see mongers dragging in numerous potentially infected LBFMs for bodily fluid exchanges on their mattresses. The airlines that once hauled mongers around the world are now bankrupt and will cut unprofitable routes or increase fares. LBFMs will be more skittish about letting potentially Covid-19 positive mongers DFK and DATY. That means less GFE. Overall, it will be more costly and difficult to deliver that marshmallow-cock cream pie to LBFM pussy from Brisbane or Chicago.
Mongers also have to consider the effects on their finances of the coming double recession and the second wave of the pandemic. Those on fixed incomes will hardly be in any shape to go trolling abroad for exotic pussy.
CzarNicholas
04-21-20, 18:28
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto?fbclid=IwAR02vpGO97sOoFTuSbaRH-Qm6Em4nUxe-WBoYCFKWG5ynXKv8lU5Fc3tygI
Does anyone think those perpetuating metoo haven't read this? They went after Kevin Spacey? Why hes gay?
I was told so they could at least knock off his House of Cards character and put an actual in the oval office and no, not like that cuck Barry Hussein, she doesn't count.
Post-pandemic mongering is going to be very different. Many oldie mongers are now dead. Those who are still alive are taking a big risk traveling thousands of miles to buy pussy. There will be additional entry requirements to enter the Philippines for random copulation with LBFMs. Hotels might not be so happy to see mongers dragging in numerous potentially infected LBFMs for bodily fluid exchanges on their mattresses. The airlines that once hauled mongers around the world are now bankrupt and will cut unprofitable routes or increase fares. LBFMs will be more skittish about letting potentially Covid-19 positive mongers DFK and DATY. That means less GFE. Overall, it will be more costly and difficult to deliver that marshmallow-cock cream pie to LBFM pussy from Brisbane or Chicago.
Mongers also have to consider the effects on their finances of the coming double recession and the second wave of the pandemic. Those on fixed incomes will hardly be in any shape to go trolling abroad for exotic pussy.Leave it to reach around tp prognosticate ad nauseum from his mum's basement while the rest of us patiently wait out the lifting of the travel restrictions. Reminds me of all the religious doomsayers. So, what happened to you that you are so sour on the lovely creatures, reach around? Did one clean out your bank account or what? Why do you even bother to write about the PI if you hate it so much? Sheesh. You and trainwreck are two of a kind. Losers, apparently.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto?fbclid=IwAR02vpGO97sOoFTuSbaRH-Qm6Em4nUxe-WBoYCFKWG5ynXKv8lU5Fc3tygI
Does anyone think those perpetuating metoo haven't read this?.Yikes the liberal, man-hating lesbos have really gone over the top with literature like this. I work for a me too biotch and wonder if she reads this garbage. With any luck I will retire early and get the hell out of sex prison. Most Latin and Asian countries still treat their men like men, thank God. Hell, if a Dominicana or Colombiana sees you with a boner she will coax the nectar out of it post haste unlike these two-ton american hussies who make you wait indeterminably while draining your wallet, your sanity and your will to live. Most of them should be required to wear signage on their ass that says Extra Wide Load. BTW, Czar, I suppose you would rather have had Lesbo-Criminal Hillary or one of her psycho counterparts in charge?
Streetlooker
04-22-20, 16:13
Well we get a speech tomorrow from the President has to what he will do about reopening parts of the country again. What kind of restrictions will stay in place and what will get reopened. Whatever the plan is I am sure the fields bars with girls in them will be about the last thing that will reopen, IF they ever do. My prediction is AC becomes a freelancer town for a while till Bars get the permission to reopen. My prediction is eventually all the Restaurants ( Phillie's Envy Kokomo's Berrtto's)and the hotels and any other type business Not related to a girlie type bar will open on fields ave. BUT NOT THE GO GO TYPE BARS Sky trax or Hiso . MY prediction is also That it will be SEPT at least till the girlie type bars open full on again, like before lock down if they ever do at all that is. I do not think things with the go go bars will ever go back to normal around here ever again. What you guys think the future of AC fields bars holds? Is it truly the end of a era?
Mr Enternational
04-22-20, 17:12
Does anyone think those perpetuating metoo haven't read this? They went after Kevin Spacey? Why hes gay?He did not play the gay card until after they went for him in hopes of getting out of it.
CzarNicholas
04-22-20, 17:23
He did not play the gay card until after they went for him in hopes of getting out of it.
For at least the last 20 yrs that he is gay, its not no one knew until he declared it as his defense LOL.
Some defense? "I don't chase pussy, I love dick" LMAO.
Haven't been to Angeles in 3 years used to go every year but sad to say the same girls at the bars and hiso since I've been going there 2012 and the newbies playing the drink game and no bar fine and I'm young so I could only imagine the older mongers in here dealing with the drama don't get me wrong I'the I was near or Asia def still worth to stop there but from the USA I've been hitting up Medellin and getting 8's 9 s for 15 usd I would have to pay 200 usd in Manila for a 3rd world shithole I be been hearing Puerto galera OK is it true? Any advice guys thanks.
Well we get a speech tomorrow from the President has to what he will do about reopening parts of the country again. What kind of restrictions will stay in place and what will get reopened. Whatever the plan is I am sure the fields bars with girls in them will be about the last thing that will reopen, IF they ever do. My prediction is AC becomes a freelancer town for a while till Bars get the permission to reopen. My prediction is eventually all the Restaurants ( Phillie's Envy Kokomo's Berrtto's)and the hotels and any other type business Not related to a girlie type bar will open on fields ave. BUT NOT THE GO GO TYPE BARS Sky trax or Hiso . MY prediction is also That it will be SEPT at least till the girlie type bars open full on again, like before lock down if they ever do at all that is. I do not think things with the go go bars will ever go back to normal around here ever again. What you guys think the future of AC fields bars holds? Is it truly the end of a era?I predict that you will be wrong on most of those predictions.
Time & dates are not things that the virus knows not does it know the type of venue.
Each country is playing to the same pandemic play card. Keep flexible, stay alert and look for local opportunity. With most western countries predicting a recession that in itself changes the home playing field.
The actual prediction is that we don't know.
Most WGs have enough saving to last for a while. And most are already fucking someone to get money.My guess is that these girls have no prudent cash reserve. Planning ahead is not a strong trait here. I do believe however that they may have found sponsorship and that the trike drivers are the likely candidates here. With jeepneys in mothballs, trike drivers are thriving.
Haven't been to Angeles in 3 years used to go every year but sad to say the same girls at the bars and hiso since I've been going there 2012 and the newbies playing the drink game and no bar fine and I'm young so I could only imagine the older mongers in here dealing with the drama don't get me wrong I'the I was near or Asia def still worth to stop there but from the USA I've been hitting up Medellin and getting 8's 9 s for 15 usd I would have to pay 200 usd in Manila for a 3rd world shithole I be been hearing Puerto galera OK is it true? Any advice guys thanks.What?
HOw about investing on some proper grammar.
NapaSlapper
04-24-20, 04:33
Well we get a speech tomorrow from the President has to what he will do about reopening parts of the country again. What kind of restrictions will stay in place and what will get reopened. Whatever the plan is I am sure the fields bars with girls in them will be about the last thing that will reopen, IF they ever do. My prediction is AC becomes a freelancer town for a while till Bars get the permission to reopen. My prediction is eventually all the Restaurants ( Phillie's Envy Kokomo's Berrtto's)and the hotels and any other type business Not related to a girlie type bar will open on fields ave. BUT NOT THE GO GO TYPE BARS Sky trax or Hiso . MY prediction is also That it will be SEPT at least till the girlie type bars open full on again, like before lock down if they ever do at all that is. I do not think things with the go go bars will ever go back to normal around here ever again. What you guys think the future of AC fields bars holds? Is it truly the end of a era?Not really fussed if the bars / gogo, s freelance scene ever opens up again.
Lets be honest here almost all Angeles girls were either fat, old, ugly or a combination of all.
The very tiny amount of Angeles girls that were slightly above average were either drink sluts (do not barfine) cherry girls (virgins) or would only barfine short time with young rich Koreans for large sums.
Have been hearing from many of the Angeles bar owners that should the lockdown extend past the end of may then the chance of reopening their bars was very slim.
Time will tell.
Haven't been to Angeles in 3 years used to go every year but sad to say the same girls at the bars and hiso since I've been going there 2012 and the newbies playing the drink game and no bar fine and I'm young so I could only imagine the older mongers in here dealing with the drama don't get me wrong I'the I was near or Asia def still worth to stop there but from the USA I've been hitting up Medellin and getting 8's 9 s for 15 usd I would have to pay 200 usd in Manila for a 3rd world shithole I be been hearing Puerto galera OK is it true? Any advice guys thanks.I think you would be disappointed with Puerto gallera the scene for me is ok at best.
If you don't like Manila (and I agree it's a shithole) then for Asia try Thailand or Indonesia instead. But south America may be the best option for a pure mongering trip.
My prediction is AC becomes a freelancer town for a while till Bars get the permission to reopen. My prediction is eventually all the Restaurants ( Phillie's Envy Kokomo's Berrtto's)and the hotels and any other type business Not related to a girlie type bar will open on fields ave. BUT NOT THE GO GO TYPE BARS Sky trax or Hiso . MY prediction is also That it will be SEPT at least till the girlie type bars open full on again, like before lock down if they ever do at all that is. I do not think things with the go go bars will ever go back to normal around here ever again. What you guys think the future of AC fields bars holds? Is it truly the end of a era?Your predictions should be qualified by the Koreans aren't going down without a fight. They are organized and they seem to have capital resources. They may seize upon this downturn as an opportunity to expand their footprint.
Yeah this idea that Filipinos are dirt poor and on the verge of starvation is total BS. I don't know about that. The Philippines is one of the poorest countries on earth. That makes them dirt poor. This country is hurting.
What? HOw about investing on some proper grammar.Grammar?! What? Punctuation you mean. LOL.
Streetlooker
04-24-20, 17:33
Your predictions should be qualified by the Koreans aren't going down without a fight. They are organized and they seem to have capital resources. They may seize upon this downturn as an opportunity to expand their footprint.IF the Koreans expand their footprint then KTV bars will replace the go go type bars. Even now the Korean owned bars set up thier bars like KTV bars with girls in long dresses you pick out of a lineup and take her out. Drinkin bars with girls in bikinis will be gone altogether. Not to many of them left anyhow.
TurdyCurdyOne
04-24-20, 22:27
I don't know about that. The Philippines is one of the poorest countries on earth. That makes them dirt poor. This country is hurting.Philippines poverty is nothing compared to poverty you see in Africa, Bangladesh, etc.
I actually feel poor here in Dumaguete with all the new SUVs, nice beach houses. Are there poor people in the P. I. -sure: in the squatter areas of Manila, and other cities you can find them. One reason they are poor is that the rich Filipinos take advantage of them and could care less about their welfare-most pols here are taking money under the table from businesses, etc. It's one of the most corrupt countries on the planet.
Mr Enternational
04-25-20, 01:35
Are there poor people in the P. I. -sure: in the squatter areas of Manila, and other cities you can find them. One reason they are poor is that the rich Filipinos take advantage of them and could care less about their welfare-And that's where the lonely poriner comes in...
MarquisdeSade1
04-25-20, 22:22
Your predictions should be qualified by the Koreans aren't going down without a fight. They are organized and they seem to have capital resources. They may seize upon this downturn as an opportunity to expand their footprint.
Boycott them, don't give them your money to use against you, don't buy drinks in the bars or eat food at their restaurants. Don't fly Asiana or Korea Air, don't but LG products or Hyundai.
And never ever buy any garbage with Samsung on it.
John Clayton
04-26-20, 00:09
...Boycott them, don't give them your money to use against you...Remind me -- how are they oppressing us?
Remind me -- how are they oppressing us?Seems to be a few BS economics majors here that have concluded that the Koreans have a conspiracy to take over Angeles City. Especially the bars in Walking Street and the perimeter bars. That is the oppression by takeover they are talking about.
I am not a BS economics major nor have I taken a class in economics, so fwiw I think it is just a matter supply and demand. Simply there is more Korean demand and the supply side is fulfilling it. The dwindling westerners are complaining the conspiring invading Koreans are taking over their turf.
Would have to be a pretty dang big conspiracy to be lining up Korean airlines and what not!
I don't know about that. The Philippines is one of the poorest countries on earth. That makes them dirt poor. This country is hurting.The Phiippines is not really a poor country.
It is a country with extreme inequlity in wealth distribution.
Look around Makati, you will see exotic automobiles daily, You will routinely see vehicles costing USD 100,000 on th esreet. Look at the hops in GB 4 for example, lots of costly merchqandise. It is not all foriegners buying and driving this wealth.
Not a poor country but one with exreme wealth inequality resulting in lots of poor people and a few very wealthy with no middle class as we know it in the west to speak of. This is a traditinal formula fo social unrest perhaps even violent revolution.
Engine Driver
04-26-20, 05:00
This is a traditinal formula fo social unrest perhaps even violent revolution.The last violent revolution in the Philippines was in 1986 when the Marcos family was kicked out. After spending a few years in exile in Hawaii, they managed to return. They have kept all of their stolen wealth and are only a few steps away from the Presidency. Nothing much changes in the Philippines. The ruling class are in bed with the Chinese-Fil business elite and have full control of the police, military and judiciary.
On a scale of 1-10, the LBFMs we socialize with are rated 1.5 in terms of social acceptance, wealth and political power. On par with the trike drivers and may be a little ahead of the litter collectors at Tondo rubbish tip.
Chocha Monger
04-26-20, 06:59
And that's where the lonely poriner comes in...The lonely horny poriner puts on his cape and swoops in to save those poor Pinays hoping for love and companionship in return for his money.
Boycott the Koreans, don't give them your money to use against you, don't buy drinks in the bars or eat food at their restaurants.I agree pretty much with this part of your post. I enjoy Korean food and I will fly Korean airlines if the price is right.
I lived in Korea I like them individually. However I discerned that Koreans will often give poorer service to foreigners. Prostitution is everywhere in Korea but good luck finding outlets that will accept non-Koreans.
The ruling class are in bed with the Chinese-Fil business elite and have full control of the police, military and judiciary...Are you suggesting this is any different to the West?
I'm not big on Conspiracy Theories. However, being a cashed up and/or connected Football Star, Bishop or Comedian will always trump any romantic ideal of equal justice for all.
G.
On a scale of 1-10, the LBFMs we socialize with are rated 1.5 in terms of social acceptance, wealth and political power. On par with the trike drivers and may be a little ahead of the litter collectors at Tondo rubbish tip.I've always said that mongers occupy the lower middle ground in the market, too scared to roam the back streets of Tondo knock shops and not invited to the high end girls' apartments.
G.
Engine Driver
04-26-20, 22:29
Are you suggesting this is any different to the West?.Yes. There aren't any tin-pot dictators in the West, like there are in shit hole countries. In the West, democratically elected leaders are not able to use the military as political weapons to kill their opponents. Judiciary is also less corrupt.
PedroMorales
04-26-20, 22:49
I've always said that mongers occupy the lower middle ground in the market, too scared to roam the back streets of Tondo knock shops and not invited to the high end girls' apartments.
G.I'm, not too sacred to wander about Tondo alone. You supplu me with full air, sea, land, satellite and close armed support and I'll go in there alone. I know plenty of places back in Mexico even the local criminals won't go into.
Your predictions should be qualified by the Koreans aren't going down without a fight. They are organized and they seem to have capital resources. They may seize upon this downturn as an opportunity to expand their footprint.
Boycott them, don't give them your money to use against you, don't buy drinks in the bars or eat food at their restaurants. Don't fly Asiana or Korea Air, don't but LG products or Hyundai.
And never ever buy any garbage with Samsung on it.Oppressor? Try competitor, for most. Korean food is in my top three, so their presence in Angeles is only a positive for me.
I've always said that mongers occupy the lower middle ground in the market, too scared to roam the back streets of Tondo knock shops and not invited to the high end girls' apartments.
G.In this current lockdown environment higher ranked girls are started to dip their toes into the dating sites.
Engine Driver
04-27-20, 00:17
They are organized and they seem to have capital resources. Yes, they certainly are organised in Angeles City, Makati, Puerto Galera etc. Hahahaha. As in organised, mafia run operations for laundering their drug profits, in collaboration with the corrupt Philippines bureaucracy. Hahahaha.
The large Korean chaebols we are familiar with, like Korean Air, Samsung, LG, Hyundai etc are not as sinister as their Chinese counterparts. I would definitely try and boycott as many Chinese corporations as much as possible as they are mere extensions of the Chinese Communist Party.
Du30 positively goes ape shit over the Chinese. He creams his pants with excitement every time a lacky from the CCP calls him with instructions. With China owning vast tranches of the Phils utilities infrastructure, some CCP official can basically switch off the Philippines with the press of a button. Hahahaha. What a position to be in! I shouldn't laugh as the CCP owns half of my country as well.
In this current lockdown environment higher ranked girls are started to dip their toes into the dating sites.True. And they are now very willing to reply to dirty old men and give out their numbers. That was very rare before. For me at least. 😁.
I'd still peg them as very attractive but they aren't the hiso girls receiving apartments and Merc's as gifts though.
Cheers. G.
I know plenty of places back in Mexico even the local criminals won't go into.Valid point. What one person finds terrifying another might find an acceptable risk.
Yes. There aren't any tin-pot dictators in the West, like there are in shit hole countries. In the West, democratically elected leaders are not able to use the military as political weapons to kill their opponents. Judiciary is also less corrupt.I guess it's just a matter of degrees: the system is the same but here you may be sued to bankruptcy and silence but, yes, you won't be taken out the back and shot.
G.
NapaSlapper
04-27-20, 00:48
I agree pretty much with this part of your post. I enjoy Korean food and I will fly Korean airlines if the price is right.
I lived in Korea I like them individually. However I discerned that Koreans will often give poorer service to foreigners. Prostitution is everywhere in Korea but good luck finding outlets that will accept non-Koreans.In the same way Prostitution is everywhere in Angeles but good luck finding outlets / girls that will accept non-Koreans.
NapaSlapper
04-27-20, 01:03
True. And they are now very willing to reply to dirty old men and give out their numbers. That was very rare before. For me at least. 😁.
I'd still peg them as very attractive but they aren't the hiso girls receiving apartments and Merc's as gifts though.
Cheers. G.Have a walk around any high end shopping mall and look at the type of girls and their attraction that is holding the hand of her pinoy boyfriend / husband and tell me if any of this class of girl can be found in Angeles or the dating sites that are geared to the girls selling themselves to foreigners.
Unfortunately as westerners we are not even on the radar of non working girls and definitely behind all the Asian nations when it comes to prostitutes.
Chocha Monger
04-27-20, 02:29
True. And they are now very willing to reply to dirty old men and give out their numbers. That was very rare before. For me at least. 😁.
I'd still peg them as very attractive but they aren't the hiso girls receiving apartments and Merc's as gifts though.
Cheers. G.Those wily LBFMs know that those dirty old men and their marshmallow cocks are safely quarantined in their homelands until at least 2021. They are hoping you will send them money in the meanwhile. If you ever make it to Flipsville to consummate those prepaid fucks, those so-called top tier LBFMs will vanish like ghosts. Once you return to your homeland, they will reappear online with excuses such as having been out of town attending the funeral of the family's favorite water buffalo who succumbed to a bad case of Covid-19. RIP!
Engine Driver
04-27-20, 06:34
I guess it's just a matter of degrees: the system is the same but here you may be sued to bankruptcy and silence but, yes, you won't be taken out the back and shot.
G.Yes, that does happen. The Singapore government has nasty habit of bankrupting political opponents. A recent case in RWML where the State Police and the State judiciary were used to prosecute and convict an innocent man was that of Cardinal Pell. The socialist, atheist State Government of Victoria was determined to get Pell to punish the Catholic Church as a whole.
Streetlooker
04-27-20, 07:51
Oppressor? Try competitor, for most. Korean food is in my top three, so their presence in Angeles is only a positive for me.The Koreans still monger just in a different way then we like. Better get used to the KTV style bars cause that's the future IMO. Very few Bikini type go go bars left We keep losing them 1 here and 1 there till they will all be gone. I mean The Most famous Bar in AC history DMZ is now a KTV bar that should tell you where things are going moving to the future. All those old western owners who had go go bars are pretty much all dead now and everytime one dies a Korean buys the place and changes it to how they like it.
I guess it's just a matter of degrees: the system is the same but here you may be sued to bankruptcy and silence but, yes, you won't be taken out the back and shot.
G.In the West the media is highly controlled so you won't know who was taken out to the back and shot.
If you ever make it to Flipsville to consummate those prepaid fucks, those so-called top tier LBFMs will vanish like ghosts. You are making the big assumption that the hotties are indeed all girls and not some 40 yo Nigerian typing away at his keyboard. A lot are straight out scams.
Have a walk around any high end shopping mall and look at the type of girls and their attraction that is holding the hand of her pinoy boyfriend / husband and tell me if any of this class of girl can be found in Angeles or the dating sites that are geared to the girls selling themselves to foreigners.
Unfortunately as westerners we are not even on the radar of non working girls and definitely behind all the Asian nations when it comes to prostitutes.Hahaha. Mom would be highly pissed if she spent years grooming her princess, sending her to foreign MBAs etc, just to have her appear on Pina Love. 😁.
I'd agree that the price of admission for these girls is very high and very, very few foreigners make the cut: 5 year age gap, good looking, very good job and prospects, Resident status. Unfortunately marshmallow dicked, 70 yo, 2 week millionaires need not apply. 😥.
Enjoy. G.
MarquisdeSade1
04-27-20, 20:42
Hahaha. Mom would be highly pissed if she spent years grooming her princess, sending her to foreign MBAs etc, just to have her appear on Pina Love.
I'd agree that the price of admission for these girls is very high and very, very few foreigners make the cut: 5 year age gap, good looking, very good job and prospects, Resident status. Unfortunately marshmallow dicked, 70 yo, 2 week millionaires need not apply.
Enjoy. G.
I will posit if you are a white guy, with the requisite qualities for said females, that you could easily bag a much hotter with even better genes than you can find in Asia and for less $$.
My theory is, very hot white women are plentiful, very hot Asian women are like unicorns, now very hot Asian women from good genes, now this is very very rare.
There is a premium on premium in Asia, maybe because its so damn rare.
That's why I think many Asians have no issues with overcompensating.
https://kdvr.com/news/chinese-man-sues-wins-120000/
MarquisdeSade1
04-28-20, 01:37
All those old western owners who had go go bars are pretty much all dead now and every time one dies a Korean buys the place and changes it to how they like it.
Unless you like wasting money on booze in a place just so you can watch them leave with any pussy worth paying for.
Can you say cuck.
I will posit if you are a white guy, with the requisite qualities for said females, that you could easily bag a much hotter with even better genes than you can find in Asia and for less $$.
My theory is, very hot white women are plentiful, very hot Asian women are like unicorns, now very hot Asian women from good genes, now this is very very rare.I'd disagree with your first statement. The very few guys that I know of who have dated or married into the high end of town did not reach the same heights in previous western relationships. Maybe it was because they were younger, less confident or less advanced in their career then, I'm not sure. Cost was irrelevant to them as they enjoyed the finer things in life themselves and had the funds to pay for them.
Are Asian girls hotter than westerners? Like for like, I doubt it. Poor, uneducated, single moms aren't that great anywhere. 19 yos with some good genetics are good everywhere. I've seen plenty of hot white girls on tourist beaches. Same for Asian girls in the appropriate places.
Cheers. G.
CzarNicholas
04-28-20, 05:35
You are making the big assumption that the hotties are indeed all girls and not some 40 yo Nigerian typing away at his keyboard. A lot are straight out scams.
If she looks like a 7 or above.
99% chance she's a ladyboy or a fat old pinay or some dude in Lagos sitting in an internet cafe.
CzarNicholas
04-28-20, 05:58
I'd disagree with your first statement. The very few guys that I know of who have dated or married into the high end of town did not reach the same heights in previous western relationships. Maybe it was because they were younger, less confident or less advanced in their career then, I'm not sure. Cost was irrelevant to them as they enjoyed the finer things in life themselves and had the funds to pay for them.
Seems like you are trying to compare apples vs oranges here. ? Give me a young white handsome confident dude with a great job in USA now take him to Asia, now compare results.
He can get any female he wants in USA, good luck in Asia.
Then as far as apples vs apples I can get pretty hot, white hookers in USA pretty cheap, the equivalent.
If that even exists in Asia will cost me 5 x or 10 x the price (just look what dudes pay in Makati or AF1).
Like they say in PI if you want to live there like you're in USA it will cost you even more than in USA.
If you want to live like a local that's a different story.
Maybe decent looking girls are overpriced in Asia because they have so little competition and demand is so damn great.
GoodEnough
04-28-20, 07:35
Hahaha. Mom would be highly pissed if she spent years grooming her princess, sending her to foreign MBAs etc, just to have her appear on Pina Love. 😁.
I'd agree that the price of admission for these girls is very high and very, very few foreigners make the cut: 5 year age gap, good looking, very good job and prospects, Resident status. Unfortunately marshmallow dicked, 70 yo, 2 week millionaires need not apply. 😥.
Enjoy. G.The very highest end here are either Chinese-Filipino or Spanish-Filipino, and both are roughly equivalent to old line WASP families in the US. That is, they tend to marry not only within their economic but also their social and ethnic class. The chance of the typical monger here meeting, let alone marrying one of these women is likely statistically very close to zero. The parents simply would not permit it. I know a few families within that circle simply by dint of having been here for so long and because of my prior work, and I have never known a single member of any of those marrying outside of the higher echelons of this society. And most of these families could buy and sell even affluent mongers out of pocket change.
GE.
Mr Enternational
04-28-20, 07:50
There is a premium on premium in Asia, maybe because its so damn rare. That's why I think many Asians have no issues with overcompensating.
https://kdvr.com/news/chinese-man-sues-wins-120000/Did you even read the article that you posted? One of the first sentences was: EDITOR’S NOTE: This original story was sourced to MSN, who has since deleted their story. According to Snopes.com, this story has since been identified as a hoax.
NapaSlapper
04-28-20, 08:45
The very highest end here are either Chinese-Filipino or Spanish-Filipino, and both are roughly equivalent to old line WASP families in the US. That is, they tend to marry not only within their economic but also their social and ethnic class. The chance of the typical monger here meeting, let alone marrying one of these women is likely statistically very close to zero. The parents simply would not permit it. I know a few families within that circle simply by dint of having been here for so long and because of my prior work, and I have never known a single member of any of those marrying outside of the higher echelons of this society. And most of these families could buy and sell even affluent mongers out of pocket change.
GE.GE, have to agree with you fully.
Even the middle class or working class look down on their daughters marrying older foreigners.
In my company about 50% of females are already married to similar age pinoys,30% are either engaged or dating similar age pinoys, of the 20% of single pinays when asked who they want to date or settle down with the answer is always a handsome pinoy who holds down a job.
As en employer I get invited to the staffs christenings, birthdays, engagements, graduations, weddings, I meet most of their extended family through attending these events, I'm almost always the only foreigner, all other couples are pinay with pinoy couples.
The majority of the phills middle / working class work hard, save to give the best education to their kids, hope that they will find good honest employment, marry guys their own ages and race if possible.
Such is the reality of life in the phills for the middle / working class dear friends.
Wicked Roger
04-28-20, 11:52
Did you even read the article that you posted? One of the first sentences was: EDITORS NOTE: This original story was sourced to MSN, who has since deleted their story. According to Snopes.com, this story has since been identified as a hoax.Mr E.
It was posted on a Fox News outlet web site. So it must be true LOL.
A few mongers here will still believe Mr E as it is from Fox news and will consider what you and I say as 'fake news'.
Such are the gullible LOL.
CzarNicholas
04-28-20, 16:31
Did you even read the article that you posted? One of the first sentences was: EDITORS NOTE: This original story was sourced to MSN, who has since deleted their story. According to Snopes.com, this story has since been identified as a hoax.
I was looking for the meme to post, when I could only find that link, I stand by its message LOL.
CzarNicholas
04-28-20, 16:47
Did you even read the article that you posted? One of the first sentences was: EDITORS NOTE: This original story was sourced to MSN, who has since deleted their story. According to Snopes.com, this story has since been identified as a hoax.
Last May I was looking for a massage girl I was falling in love with and trying to fuck in BKK on Soi 22, I go over and can't find her, the shop says she works later, she has never done anything but play with my naked body, in any case I ran across another hot girl down the street and took her upstairs of the shop and had a great session with only BJ.
So I finish and start walking to the Phrom Phong Bts station, and right before I go up the stairs its the girl I was madly in love with just an hour ago LOL.
She looks like dog shit, like the girl in the photo on the left and probably worse, no make up etc.
I'm shocked, she hugs me and says I'm going to work now cum see me later LOL so that's what she really looks like, she must do her make up at work before she starts.
She sent me a Line a few hours later asking me to stop by, I deleted her LOL.
Make up is a straight up fraud as is plastic surgery, be careful with bitches that come from places where its very popular especially if they have the money to get a bunch of it.
You might wind up with kids like in this story.
Let's Just Look at P4P
Seems like you are trying to compare apples vs oranges here. ? Give me a young white handsome confident dude with a great job in USA now take him to Asia, now compare results.
He can get any female he wants in USA, good luck in Asia.
Then as far as apples vs apples I can get pretty hot, white hookers in USA pretty cheap, the equivalent.
If that even exists in Asia will cost me 5 x or 10 x the price (just look what dudes pay in Makati or AF1).
Like they say in PI if you want to live there like you're in USA it will cost you even more than in USA.
If you want to live like a local that's a different story.
Maybe decent looking girls are overpriced in Asia because they have so little competition and demand is so damn great.I'd suggest a single "young white handsome confident dude with a great job" resident in PI would be tripping over offers from regular girls and would only be chasing rice farmers' daughters as the occasional dalliance. Sure they won't be GE's elite of the elites but I'd wager money that Napa's single girls would be happy for a date or real relationship. Remember, the guys I referenced certainly were not burnt out mongers and the girls were far from $20 hookers. Their relationships too were normal many months BF / GF situations or regular marriages.
I don't play on home turf so I can't comment on local vs PI prices. However, I would say that good looking working girls are available everywhere just as average girls are. We all have our different preferences but skanky street workers are dog ugly and high end brothels and bars have lookers in both Asia and the West. Like civilians, I think like for like it's a wash.
I would emphasize that personal preferences play a big part in people's opinions. Eg I can understand how someone who prioritizes height would be disappointed in Asia vs the West. The opposite could be said for guys who preference 80 lb spinners.
Cheers. G.
, of the 20% of single pinays when asked who they want to date or settle down with the answer is always a handsome pinoy who holds down a job.Perhaps they know that the reality that finding a well to do and socially acceptable young white guy in AC has about the same probabilty as my chance of finding a honest and decent girl on Fields? 😁.
I'm pretty sure that the answers where they were actually presented with real and attractive options would be different.
All the best. G.
P.S. This is no negative reflection on your employees. Just that peoples choices reflect the environment that they are in.
It's been a couple of pages and I'm probably the biggest culprit but does anyone have any info on actually getting laid in AC? 😁.
CzarNicholas
04-28-20, 23:24
Just that peoples choices reflect the environment that they are in.
They say married guys that don't cheat, don't cheat because they can't find a vagina to cheat with LOL (or they don't know how to find a pre-paid whoor).
Perhaps they know that the reality that finding a well to do and socially acceptable young white guy in AC has about the same probabilty as my chance of finding a honest and decent girl on Fields? .There are plenty of honest and decent girls on fields. Question is are they going to be honest and decent to casual monger looking to dip in every hole with whoever available?
There are many girls who have a regular boyfriend or husband. They work like any other job to make a living. Sex for money is not on their agenda. Not all girls working in the bar are available to take out. Gone are the days when practically every woman was available for barfine and sex. I remember when westerners owned part of the bar and ran the show. They would frown on any girl refusing barfine.
There are plenty of honest and decent girls on fields. Question is are they going to be honest and decent to casual monger looking to dip in every hole with whoever available?Everyone seems to be in furious agreement. 😁.
I'm pretty sure that the answers where they were actually presented with real and attractive options would be different.
All the best. G.
P.S. This is no negative reflection on your employees. Just that peoples choices reflect the environment that they are in.
Engine Driver
04-29-20, 03:03
Sure they won't be GE's elite of the elites but I'd wager money that Napa's single girls would be happy for a date or real relationship. Local girls prefer local guys and that's how it is all over the world. Common culture, common language and shared values make it an easier proposition. Pleasing the family is important for most people. Most locals know why a westerner is in the Philippines and it's got nothing to do with diving, snorkelling or NGO do-gooding. Ageing mongers don't garner the respect they think they do. Poor girls will go for a foreigner as it is a way to support the family and a one-way ticket out of poverty. The girl is in effect selling her pussy so her family can get a better life. The ageing white monger is leveraging his economic power and foreign passport. Love has got nothing to do with it.
I don't play on home turf so I can't comment on local vs PI prices. I do and it's comparable. When you take into account the need for time off, airfares, accommodation and the general fuck around factor of travelling in a shit hole country, it is far cheaper at home. Sure the LBFMs are cute, but it's no longer worth the effort and it will be less so when Mr Wuhan Virus has had his ass kicked back to China.
PedroMorales
04-29-20, 08:26
So I finish and start walking to the Phrom Phong Bts station, and right before I go up the stairs its the girl I was madly in love with just an hour ago LOL.
She looks like dog shit, like the girl in the photo on the left and probably worse, no make up etc..Moral of the story is guys here have a warped sense of what love means. Most Pinay women or women anywhere don't want any part of that. You essentially want to jerk off into a mirage, a dream, a fantasy. Hookers supply you with that. Most women avoid your type with a barge pole. They go for guys on their wave length.
When people here opine on love or such things, common sense goes out the window. You are buying a pig in a poke for a poke. If you are at the same level of the hooker and if you are o with her cooking your food, eating marshmallows and watching cartoons all day as you drink Red Horse, OK. When your fantasy moves beyond that and you think ordinary people want anything to do with you, your fantasy can veer into the reality of rape, up to and including a prison cell.
This is a general alert and not a personal attack.
Dhruvninea
04-29-20, 09:43
Hello Guys,
I am looking for options of mongering in either Pattaya, Saigon or Angels City. Please guide which will be the best option if my budget is $600 for 3 nights, out of which $100 is flight tickets and transport to the city. Which city provides best value for money?
Thanks,
Dhruv.
Hello Guys,
I am looking for options of mongering in either Pattaya, Saigon or Angels City. Please guide which will be the best option if my budget is $600 for 3 nights, out of which $100 is flight tickets and transport to the city. Which city provides best value for money?
Thanks,
Dhruv.What are you interested in / want to do? We could give more info if we knew these.
I'd go to Pattaya if I wanted a succession of cheap STs, AC for overnighters or HCMC for things to do during the day. HCMC is far more interesting than Patts or AC.
Like for like, I'd say AC is the cheapest for most things but YMMV depending on what you are buying.
Enjoy. G.
........... I can get pretty hot, white hookers in USA pretty cheap, the equivalent................Now remind me why you are mongering in Asia again.
CzarNicholas
04-29-20, 18:46
Moral of the story is guys here have a warped sense of what love means. Most Pinay women or women anywhere don't want any part of that. You essentially want to jerk off into a mirage, a dream, a fantasy. Hookers supply you with that. Most women avoid your type with a barge pole. They go for guys on their wave length.
When people here opine on love or such things, common sense goes out the window. You are buying a pig in a poke for a poke. If you are at the same level of the hooker and if you are o with her cooking your food, eating marshmallows and watching cartoons all day as you drink Red Horse, OK. When your fantasy moves beyond that and you think ordinary people want anything to do with you, your fantasy can veer into the reality of rape, up to and including a prison cell.
This is a general alert and not a personal attack.
I hope you know you're preaching to the choir with me on this, I am not among the uninitiated on this topic.
I have studied this very topic ad nauseam for decades.
Romantic love does not exist, that is the reason I fuck pre-paid whoors, they provide a much better ROI.
Its analogous to buying huge boneless rib eye steaks very very cheap, buy low, always buy the dip.
In case you're unfamiliar with my use of the word love in the post, I was being facetious, I meant garden variety monger lust.
I can love my children, kin, and male best friends, but I can never love a woman, they are incapable of reciprocating romantic love, they are unlovable! Note I did not say UN-LUST-ABLE.
Women are a quintessential quid pro quo, be it a long term relationship, or street meat in AC (see Briffaults law).
Women have value for 2 purposes, making men cumm, and becoming pregnant to perpetuate the species.
Anything else is an affront to Natural law, a sham, a fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdkTdh_PZ8
Ageing mongers don't garner the respect they think they do. Poor girls will go for a foreigner as it is a way to support the family and a one-way ticket out of poverty. I totally agree. If you reread the unquoted part of my post it specifically stated that I was talking about young, attractive guys and middle to upper class girls who rarely need to swap sex for grocery money.
I'm really struggling to remember a young attractive (in all the senses of the word) guy who had difficulty hooking up with similar regular girls. Equally, I can't remember a burnt out monger who got anywhere without something to trade (money, visa, Insta travel shots etc) beyond 'love and compassion'.
I do and it's comparable. When you take into account the need for time off, airfares, accommodation and the general fuck around factor of travelling in a shit hole country, it is far cheaper at home. Sure the LBFMs are cute, but it's no longer worth the effort and it will be less so when Mr Wuhan Virus has had his ass kicked back to China.Can you get a STFS for A $50 and an overnight multiple shots for $100 in whiteman's land? An honest question as I have no idea. If so, I'd agree it's not worth leaving home esp if the girls are half decent looking.
Enjoy. G.
Guys, I really enjoy reading all the different opinions but just an observation: if your post includes a quote without any indication where the quote ends and your text starts, it's really hard to read and understand.
Can I ask that quoters make use of the Reply with Quote button rather than New Report button with Copy / Paste functions?
Cheers. G.
Engine Driver
04-30-20, 00:41
Can you get a STFS for A $50 and an overnight multiple shots for $100 in whiteman's land? An honest question as I have no idea. If so, I'd agree it's not worth leaving home esp if the girls are half decent looking.
Enjoy. G.ST CFS with a nice looking Colombian, Chinese, Thai or Indonesian girl will be around AUD $90-120 for 30 minutes in Sydney or Melbourne. That will include one pop, plus DFK, CBJ, AR, DATY and usually GFE. Once they trust you, they will give you their phone numbers and you can see them outside the knocking shop for sex or just a coffee. All nighters are not really possible as they are just too prohibitive in terms of needing a place to host and high cost. The hooker will want $2,000+ for 12 hours and MSOG. Nice looking white girls demand $4,000 for overnight and investment bankers, fund managers and plastic surgeons go on cocaine binges with them. On that note, the Burgos girl who charges USD 200 for overnight MSOG is a bargain.
I did say you need to factor in all travel costs and apply them evenly over each session to get a fair comparison. If the Philippines was an interesting country with things to do during the day, stuff to learn and decent food, the experience would be worth it. The other disadvantage is that squeezing in 20 x BBFSCIPs in 14 days is rather tiresome. The law of diminishing marginal returns kicks in. I just find it a mind numbing experience dealing with LBFMs. How much elementary school level conversation in broken English can a monger handle? More than two weeks in Flipsville and your brain turns to custard. You could use the $5,000-10,000 travel money back in RWML and spread it over 3-6 months, fucking much nicer looking girls in the comfort of your home city.
Chocha Monger
04-30-20, 01:54
Local girls prefer local guys and that's how it is all over the world. Common culture, common language and shared values make it an easier proposition. Pleasing the family is important for most people. Most locals know why a westerner is in the Philippines and it's got nothing to do with diving, snorkelling or NGO do-gooding. Ageing mongers don't garner the respect they think they do. Poor girls will go for a foreigner as it is a way to support the family and a one-way ticket out of poverty. The girl is in effect selling her pussy so her family can get a better life. The ageing white monger is leveraging his economic power and foreign passport. Love has got nothing to do with it.
I do and it's comparable. When you take into account the need for time off, airfares, accommodation and the general fuck around factor of travelling in a shit hole country, it is far cheaper at home. Sure the LBFMs are cute, but it's no longer worth the effort and it will be less so when Mr Wuhan Virus has had his ass kicked back to China.Indeed! Foreign male tourism to the Philippines would collapse if white girls between 18 and 23 years old started providing BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIM with swallow to ugly old fat mongers in the West under legal and affordable terms. Mongers only go to the Philippines because they can fuck 18 to 23 year-old nincompoops who will do anything for cash and pretend to love the john in the process. Western girls do not need cash bad enough to whisper, "I love you! I love you!" while a septuagenarian gapes her ass with his Viagra fueled marshmallow cock.
NapaSlapper
04-30-20, 03:40
Are there girls willing to short time full sex all over Europe and the UK for 50 yes, thousands.
Are there girls willing to long time for 100, yes thousands just get their numbers and have them on their day off or after work.
Are European girls far far hotter than what can be found in most Angeles gogo bars, yes, by a long way.
Where it goes down hill is that by far the majority of Angeles mongers travel there strictly because the girls are either to poor or too dumb to require protection.
Although cheap sex in Europe and the UK is available with far better looking girls all sex will be covered, something most Angeles visitors shun like a dose of covid 19.
When costs of flights, hotels, loss of work, visas, insurance are factored in then mongering in Europe / UK for those that already live there is far cheaper over all.
John Clayton
04-30-20, 04:02
...his Viagra fueled marshmallow cock.You need a new metaphor.
Dhruvninea
04-30-20, 06:57
What are you interested in / want to do? We could give more info if we knew these.
I'd go to Pattaya if I wanted a succession of cheap STs, AC for overnighters or HCMC for things to do during the day. HCMC is far more interesting than Patts or AC.
Like for like, I'd say AC is the cheapest for most things but YMMV depending on what you are buying.
Enjoy. G.Hi,
Thanks for responding.
I am looking forward to partying with sexy gals at evening and a nice fuck in my hotel room at night after partying. And then a nice buffet lunch with the gal. As well as relaxing massage.
Streetlooker
04-30-20, 10:42
Just that peoples choices reflect the environment that they are in.
They say married guys that don't cheat, don't cheat because they can't find a vagina to cheat with LOL (or they don't know how to find a pre-paid whoor).You are only has faithful has your options allow you to be.
Streetlooker
04-30-20, 10:56
Hello Guys,
I am looking for options of mongering in either Pattaya, Saigon or Angels City. Please guide which will be the best option if my budget is $600 for 3 nights, out of which $100 is flight tickets and transport to the city. Which city provides best value for money?
Thanks,
Dhruv.There will not be much mongering in AC anytime soon. The Philippines has closed off foreigners from entering the country at all right now. Rumor It will be Jan 2021 before they even start to allow entry again. If you are not already here your pretty much SOL. I won't believe the Bars are open till I go down there and see it myself and can go in and buy a beer again and sit in front of a stage of 20-30 girls again. JAN 2021 if we lucky.
Hi,
Thanks for responding.
I am looking forward to partying with sexy gals at evening and a nice fuck in my hotel room at night after partying. And then a nice buffet lunch with the gal. As well as relaxing massage.Personally, if you are looking to party but have a limited budget I'd go to Soi 6 in Pattaya. Both AC and Patts are shit holes but Pattaya has a lot more to see, do and eat than AC. Go have a look at Walking Street gogos and the main area of town but be warned that if your are not careful it would be easy to spend your whole holiday's allocation in a few hours there.
AC gogos are now generally regarded as a waste of time beyond dropping in for a few beers. Very few have any atmosphere to speak of. I've had fun with girls from online or High Society nightclub there though. If it's the main concern, I'd expect AC to be a cheaper 3 days than Pattaya.
Of course, nothing is going to happen before the bars anywhere are reopened.
Enjoy. G.
Moral of the story is guys here have a warped sense of what love means. Most Pinay women or women anywhere don't want any part of that. You essentially want to jerk off into a mirage, a dream, a fantasy. Hookers supply you with that. Most women avoid your type with a barge pole. They go for guys on their wave length.
When people here opine on love or such things, common sense goes out the window. You are buying a pig in a poke for a poke. If you are at the same level of the hooker and if you are o with her cooking your food, eating marshmallows and watching cartoons all day as you drink Red Horse, OK. When your fantasy moves beyond that and you think ordinary people want anything to do with you, your fantasy can veer into the reality of rape, up to and including a prison cell.
This is a general alert and not a personal attack.
I hope you know you're preaching to the choir with me on this, I am not among the uninitiated on this topic.
I have studied this very topic ad nauseam for decades.
Romantic love does not exist, that is the reason I fuck pre-paid whoors, they provide a much better ROI.
Its analogous to buying huge boneless rib eye steaks very very cheap, buy low, always buy the dip.
In case you're unfamiliar with my use of the word love in the post, I was being facetious, I meant garden variety monger lust.
I can love my children, kin, and male best friends, but I can never love a woman, they are incapable of reciprocating romantic love, they are unlovable! Note I did not say UN-LUST-ABLE.
Women are a quintessential quid pro quo, be it a long term relationship, or street meat in AC (see Briffaults law).
Women have value for 2 purposes, making men cumm, and becoming pregnant to perpetuate the species.
Anything else is an affront to Natural law, a sham, a fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdkTdh_PZ8An experienced, multiple-divorced airline Captain once gave me this sage advice: "If it flies, floats or fucks-Rent it, don't buy it. ".
CzarNicholas
04-30-20, 17:23
When costs of flights, hotels, loss of work, visas, insurance are factored in then mongering in Europe / UK for those that already live there is far cheaper over all.Moscow and fkkland are some of the toughest places to find BBFS even though it can be done, Latin America and USA are semi easy, and Asia is extremely easy include Bkk.
If you live in Ffurt or NRW it would be a tough sell, to jump on a plane to fly around the world.
Are there girls willing to short time full sex all over Europe and the UK for 50 yes, thousands.
Are there girls willing to long time for 100, yes thousands just get their numbers and have them on their day off or after work.
Are European girls far far hotter than what can be found in most Angeles gogo bars, yes, by a long way.
Where it goes down hill is that by far the majority of Angeles mongers travel there strictly because the girls are either to poor or too dumb to require protection.
Although cheap sex in Europe and the UK is available with far better looking girls all sex will be covered, something most Angeles visitors shun like a dose of covid 19.
When costs of flights, hotels, loss of work, visas, insurance are factored in then mongering in Europe / UK for those that already live there is far cheaper over all.There are big differences in having sex at third world destinations compared to first world countries.
In the advanced countries sex is available free and for pay. Dating and enticing a girl to have sex takes a long time. Before HIV came it was much easier. At that time just go to the bar and try to pick up a girl and sex was definitely on the table. Even now there are girls available for pay sex. But most often it is wham, bam, TY ma'am affair. Even in Las Vegas it is the same unless you hook up with vacationers.
Mongering in third world countries is different. By nature most of the girls are friendly. Sex offer is in your face without having to go look for it. If you leave out costs of travel it is cheap. Hotels are inexpensive even if you want to stay in 5 star. Cost of food is cheap and most often you will get a GFE experience.
NapaSlapper
05-01-20, 08:02
There are big differences in having sex at third world destinations compared to first world countries.
In the advanced countries sex is available free and for pay. Dating and enticing a girl to have sex takes a long time. Before HIV came it was much easier. At that time just go to the bar and try to pick up a girl and sex was definitely on the table. Even now there are girls available for pay sex. But most often it is wham, bam, TY ma'am affair. Even in Las Vegas it is the same unless you hook up with vacationers.
Mongering in third world countries is different. By nature most of the girls are friendly. Sex offer is in your face without having to go look for it. If you leave out costs of travel it is cheap. Hotels are inexpensive even if you want to stay in 5 star. Cost of food is cheap and most often you will get a GFE experience.Prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Asia, just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified adds, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.
Never had a European girl that was not friendly, in fact I would say more friendly than Asian girls because of same language, same intelligence levels, more in common so far more things to talk about should one want to.
As far as hotel costs anything under $100 a night in Angeles city is a flee pit and there certainly is no 5 star hotels, maybe 5 star prices with 3 star rooms would be more accurate.
As far as Angeles food there is no decent food anywhere, even the western food in the most expensive of places is very low quality compared to Europe and at the same prices.
Where I would agree is that if one chose an Angeles girl that was unpopular due to looks / age / weight then GFE and long time might be possible, choose anything slightly better looking and slim then st wham bam one short pop and out the door is the only thing on offer in Angeles.
Now Angeles 20/25 years ago and I would have agreed that the quality of girls was excellent and all stayed long time multiple pops, unfortunately not been heard of in multiple years.
Cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7 days would be a minimum $3-4,000 when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with $3-4,000 one could fuck models every day for the same 7 days duration in Europe.
Prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Asia, just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified adds, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.
Never had a European girl that was not friendly, in fact I would say more friendly than Asian girls because of same language, same intelligence levels, more in common so far more things to talk about should one want to.
As far as hotel costs anything under $100 a night in Angeles city is a flee pit and there certainly is no 5 star hotels, maybe 5 star prices with 3 star rooms would be more accurate.
As far as Angeles food there is no decent food anywhere, even the western food in the most expensive of places is very low quality compared to Europe and at the same prices.
Where I would agree is that if one chose an Angeles girl that was unpopular due to looks / age / weight then GFE and long time might be possible, choose anything slightly better looking and slim then st wham bam one short pop and out the door is the only thing on offer in Angeles.
Now Angeles 20/25 years ago and I would have agreed that the quality of girls was excellent and all stayed long time multiple pops, unfortunately not been heard of in multiple years.
Cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7 days would be a minimum $3-4,000 when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with $3-4,000 one could fuck models every day for the same 7 days duration in Europe.I am talking about USA. Even here girls are available but the quality of service not the same. Dating sites is good only for young people.
Never went to Europe for mongering except take girlfriends on vacation to Europe, Egypt, Morocco etc which was a while ago.
Charm of Asia is age factor is generally ignored with dating girls. Ofcourse I am not looking to get married to an upscale girl. Other thing is it becomes an vacation with sex with different girls. Travel between cities in Asia is cheap.
Yes, it is true Angeles is not what it used to be. I target only dating girls in Philippines and I have a great time with young juicy doting girls.
I have gone traveling with them around. They make perfect partners without complaints. They appreciate whatever money, gifts you give them.
A week in Philippines will not cost $3000 to $4000. Travel is cheap if you book early and go off season. Air fare under $1000, $100 per day is $700 for top hotel. Food is cheap. Girls are cheap unless you go to a KTV. Dating girls are happy to get 1500 per day. Philippine girls are not into expensive food and glitzy restaurant. They are happy to stay in the room and take out from jollibee. Sexwise they never say no to any number times. AC girls are spoiled by certain group who throw money and hardly fuck them.
CzarNicholas
05-01-20, 22:26
Prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Asia
Cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7 days would be a minimum $3-4,000 when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with $3-4,000 one could fuck models every day for the same 7 days duration in Europe.You won't find too many smart European mongers flying to Asia to monger, I'm guessing that's part of the plan with many 3-3-3 mongers, they are more than happy to price others out of the market with their overpaying and then call it "winning", you won't see many Americans in Asia either, the long / expensive flights horrible climate inferior infrastructure, amenities, food and WG and the ROI is a bust for most, I get why the Aussies are here its a very short cheap flight.
I don't have a crystal ball but this C virus could be a huge game changer for most mongering hubs, and as a result there could be big global shifts in where mongers go?
I just pray everyone doesn't follow me LOL.
NapaSlapper
05-02-20, 01:06
You won't find too many smart European mongers flying to Asia to monger, I'm guessing that's part of the plan with many 3-3-3 mongers, they are more than happy to price others out of the market with their overpaying and then call it "winning", you won't see many Americans in Asia either, the long / expensive flights horrible climate inferior infrastructure, amenities, food and WG and the ROI is a bust for most, I get why the Aussies are here its a very short cheap flight.
I don't have a crystal ball but this C virus could be a huge game changer for most mongering hubs, and as a result there could be big global shifts in where mongers go?
I just pray everyone doesn't follow me LOL.Have to fully agree.
If I did not own a company in angeles its the last place I would go for a holiday or to monger, the quality of girls is just not there any more.
As far as mongers visiting any time soon then they are living in fantasy land, maybe late 2021 at the earliest.
Until a cure to covid can be found can one imagine visiting gogo bars where the girls and punters had to wear masks and adhere to social distancing, not very good for business IMHO and the reason the bars will stay shut until a cure is available.
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Unfortunately as westerners we are not even on the radar of non working girls ....I disagree with that statement.
They take more work to find and to take home but if you are educated, professional a gentleman, you can have success in this group.
I have had some success in this area. Best is to have some actual friendships with guys in the social economic class and let them introduce you to some girls. Once the guys know and accept you and are comfortable making the introductions you are golden.
Unfortunately they are just as stupid and money hungry as their lower class country women. They just have higher expectations on what you should give them and they want jewelry trips and other gifts instead of taxi money.
I disagree with that statement.
They take more work to find and to take home but if you are educated, professional a gentleman, you can have success in this group.
I have had some success in this area. Best is to have some actual friendships with guys in the social economic class and let them introduce you to some girls. Once the guys know and accept you and are comfortable making the introductions you are golden.
Unfortunately they are just as stupid and money hungry as their lower class country women. They just have higher expectations on what you should give them and they want jewelry trips and other gifts instead of taxi money.No difference from high class working girls.
Different way of payment, that's all.
A week in Philippines will not cost $3000 to $4000. Travel is cheap if you book early and go off season. Air fare under $1000, $100 per day is $700 for top hotel. Food is cheap. Girls are cheap unless you go to a KTV. Dating girls are happy to get 1500 per day. Philippine girls are not into expensive food and glitzy restaurant. They are happy to stay in the room and take out from jollibee. Sexwise they never say no to any number times. AC girls are spoiled by certain group who throw money and hardly fuck them.Longer term stays are even cheaper, especially outside the major cities. I am in an Airbnb one bedroom townhouse in cebu province. It costs me 23000 a month plus less than 400 a day for groceries. That is about 35000 a month all in living.
I have had local girls overnight and they were happy with 1000. Daytime sex for 500.
I am getting laid a couple times a week for less than USD 1000 a month including living costs.
Hard to find girls willing to risk the ECQ rules to come over. Once we go to GCQ it should be easier.
If I could find a comparable live in GF, I would do that until the virus threat goes away and would get fucked and sucked daily for my 50 k p a month.
You are only has faithful has your options allow you to be.Fear is what keeps most guys faithful.
I was married for 35 years and always faithful until we split. I was scared to get caught and to lose the life I had with my wife and family.
Once it got to the point where I did not want to save my marriage getting laid for money and in a couple cases for lust was easy and that was in Canada. Then in really started looking on layovers in Dubai, stayed at LE Merdian and went to Jules Bar. Could walk in and leave witha couple with a couple cuties in 5 minutes.
Then I started coming here. The rest is history.
If I could find a comparable live in GF, I would do that until the virus threat goes away and would get fucked and sucked daily for my 50 k p a month.It is very easy to get a live in GF in Philippines. Many pretty young girls have asked me. I think they want some security and their needs taken care of. There are many province girls coming to Cebu and Manila looking for jobs. Most often they stay with aunts or cousins till they find a job. Once they find a job they live in a dormitory for girls. Some cheap dormitory are run by religious organizations and they are very strict. Some girls hook on the side to make their rent and living expenses but their clients strictly locals through friends or friends of friends. These clients tend to be younger locals. Many of these girls are on dating sites. Mainly to hook up with locals. Not all like to be with foreigners. Being with foreigners equate to being prostitutes they believe. Quite a few do not want to be seen in public with foreigners.
IMHO once these girls make a giant leap of being in bed with a foreigner and if they like you will do anything. This includes bringing their friends for you.
I would have no problem having a live in GF or couple of GF if I take care of them. But over time I am sure it will create headaches and possibly problems. There was a monger who used to post in this forum who had bunch of girls living with him. I believe he got busted and probably in jail. Being a monger it is always better to have many friends come and service your needs rather than a live in girl or girls. For me I would get bored easily even if there is a pretty girl who makes me happy. I live in USA and only visit many countries for mongering.
But to each his own.
It is very easy to get a live in GF in Philippines.
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But to each his own.Getting one to agree to stay with me is not an issue.
Finding one that I would be comparable with and would want to have around 24/7 for a couple of months is the problem.
Chocha Monger
05-02-20, 22:57
There will not be much mongering in AC anytime soon. The Philippines has closed off foreigners from entering the country at all right now. Rumor It will be Jan 2021 before they even start to allow entry again. If you are not already here your pretty much SOL. I won't believe the Bars are open till I go down there and see it myself and can go in and buy a beer again and sit in front of a stage of 20-30 girls again. JAN 2021 if we lucky.With LBFMs off the menu until next year or longer, mongers are stuck at home with reruns of Trike Patrol and boxes of Kleenex. Is there anywhere mongers can go to get their vinegar marshmallows sucked BBBJCIM with swallow before 2021? Are the Thais reopening sucky fucky shops before 2021?
Some mongers are not going to live long enough to get to 2021. After 50 years of mongering Southeast Asia and Micronesia, our dear Grandpa Caramello passed away in Brisbane with an unused return ticket to Flipsville. RIP.
Have to fully agree.
If I did not own a company in angeles its the last place I would go for a holiday or to monger, the quality of girls is just not there any more.
As far as mongers visiting any time soon then they are living in fantasy land, maybe late 2021 at the earliest.
Until a cure to covid can be found can one imagine visiting gogo bars where the girls and punters had to wear masks and adhere to social distancing, not very good for business IMHO and the reason the bars will stay shut until a cure is available.I m more optimistic on this.
I foresee philipines will slowly ease lockdown on selected areas and cities w less virus numbers in the next 2 months.
They are doing more rapid testings now.
The outcome will determine the next step.
Most probably after 2-3 months if situation contained, foreigners from less risk countries may be allowed entry. A 14 day isolation may be required.
Vietnam I think will be the first country opening up to selected foreign tourist.
I m more optimistic on this.
I foresee philipines will slowly ease lockdown on selected areas and cities w less virus numbers in the next 2 months.
Most probably after 2-3 months if situation contained, foreigners from less risk countries may be allowed entry. A 14 day isolation may be required.
I guess you're not actually in Manila right now or else you wouldn't be indulging in such prognostications.
Of course anyone can muse about what might happen but the numbers are not supporting a significant easing any time soon.
Numbers of new cases are still going up rapidly in a number of areas due to people openly flouting the directives. Very strict lock downs are being enforced in some parts of the city.
Even in Ortigas you need a pass to go to the supermarket or pharmacy.
In the north there are very few new cases so they will definitely open up again soon but still under a GCQ.
Engine Driver
05-03-20, 13:59
After 50 years of mongering Southeast Asia and Micronesia, our dear Grandpa Caramello passed away in Brisbane with an unused return ticket to Flipsville. RIP.Many of you may be wondering how the beloved Grandpa Caramello got his rather endearing name. On his regular mongering trips to Micronesia and South East Asia (four times a year), old Grandpa would reward each of his nubile, young LBFMs with a Caramello Koala treat every time they gave him a BBBJCIM with swallow. Queues would form around the lodge where he stayed from 10.00 am onwards as the LBFMs found the Caramello Koalas simply irresistible. Even sweeter than his Viagra infused little marshmallow. Hahaha. No other payment was needed.
Many of you think that you are getting a bargain when you hand over 500 peso or 1000 peso for BBBJCIM with swallow. Well, you could never come close to wily old Grandpa Caramello in terms of getting value for money. He was a legend in his own time. He never paid more than the equivalent of 15 peso for each pop, including BBFSCIA. Each Caramello Koala was around 50 cents back in his home country when bought in bulk bags from his local supermarket!
May God bless his soul. RIP Legend.
Streetlooker
05-03-20, 14:32
With LBFMs off the menu until next year or longer, mongers are stuck at home with reruns of Trike Patrol and boxes of Kleenex. Is there anywhere mongers can go to get their vinegar marshmallows sucked BBBJCIM with swallow before 2021? Are the Thais reopening sucky fucky shops before 2021?
Some mongers are not going to live long enough to get to 2021. After 50 years of mongering Southeast Asia and Micronesia, our dear Grandpa Caramello passed away in Brisbane with an unused return ticket to Flipsville. RIP.I do believe that the ban for international flights will be lifted earlier then 2021. I can see Koreans and Chinese putting pressure on the Philippines to open it back up to them. Maybe they don't open to Australians Americans or all Europeans till 2021, but lets face it once the money starts to dry up at the top levels. Then they will open it if Koreans and Chinese wave some money at them. Of course Just my opinion. But it sounds reasonable enough.
Numbers of new cases are still going up rapidly in a number of areas due to people openly flouting the directives. Very strict lock downs are being enforced in some parts of the city.This is not necesarily a bad thing IMHO. Increasing cases now means less later instead of dragging out the lockdown for months or years. I expect herd immunity to eventually take hold. I am watching Swedens numbers. It is the only country I am aware of that is bucking the popular trend and allowing the virus to spread at will. Means for them more cases now but no second wave (maybe), over and done sooner.
John Clayton
05-03-20, 18:56
This is not necesarily a bad thing IMHO. Increasing cases now means less later instead of dragging out the lockdown for months or years. I expect herd immunity to eventually take hold. I am watching Swedens numbers. It is the only country I am aware of that is bucking the popular trend and allowing the virus to spread at will. Means for them more cases now but no second wave (maybe), over and done sooner.Probably, largely correct. However, because this is a corona type virus, it is unclear how long (if at all) "immunity" will last. This is inherently different from something like smallpox.
I guess you're not actually in Manila right now or else you wouldn't be indulging in such prognostications.
Of course anyone can muse about what might happen but the numbers are not supporting a significant easing any time soon.
Numbers of new cases are still going up rapidly in a number of areas due to people openly flouting the directives. Very strict lock downs are being enforced in some parts of the city.
Even in Ortigas you need a pass to go to the supermarket or pharmacy.
In the north there are very few new cases so they will definitely open up again soon but still under a GCQ.Thats why I said selected areas and cities not mentioning Manila.
Cebu and Davao has better chances but will have to depend on numbers in a few weeks.
Philipines cannot withstand the economy impact for too long and people will soon die of hunger with little food distribution from the gov.
The strict lockdown and shooting of extreme violators showed how desperate and urgent Duterte is.
So the less risked areas has to go into GCQ and then if possible total lifted to boost domestic economy.
Opening up to selected low risk foreign countries will follow.
NapaSlapper
05-04-20, 01:08
Thats why I said selected areas and cities not mentioning Manila.
Cebu and Davao has better chances but will have to depend on numbers in a few weeks.
Philipines cannot withstand the economy impact for too long and people will soon die of hunger with little food distribution from the gov.
The strict lockdown and shooting of extreme violators showed how desperate and urgent Duterte is.
So the less risked areas has to go into GCQ and then if possible total lifted to boost domestic economy.
Opening up to selected low risk foreign countries will follow.There are 3.5 million cases of confirmed cases of covid 19 and as most nations have only tested a fraction of their population expect these numbers to be multiple times higher in reality and still climbing by thousands of cases per day.
Look at living conditions for most poor pinoys, 10 people sleeping in one tiny room, from grandparents to new born babies, no access to clean running water, no sanitation, can you honestly see phills numbers lowering any time soon, I can see only massive gains due to this virus is extremely easy to catch when in close confinement and no running water.
Yes pinoys will eventually have to return to work for the economy but as phills prostitution is a tiny percentage of phills GDP it will be the last to open as is the least important to GDP.
Most Angeles bar owners are openly reporting that they cannot see themselves opening this year at all, many through no funds to keep paying expenses / bribes while they are earning zero pesos for months.
Many ex Angeles bar girls have moved on, multiple reports of ex Angeles bargirls earning far more cammimg and selling dreams to lonely white men all without having to have sex with grand daddy who is 300 lbs and rarely washes.
As far as ford trucks herd immunity well there is none, as has been explained to member ford truck multiple times its possible to catch covid 19 again and again, many proven cases of this in the news.
Mongering in sea will change for good IMHO and may take several years to start to show recovery if at all, hope that I'm wrong but I seriously doubt it.
I do believe that the ban for international flights will be lifted earlier then 2021. I can see Koreans and Chinese putting pressure on the Philippines I think there are daily flights to Korea and Japan. I saw a departure recently for Guanzhou. On 5/9 PAL is flying to LAX.
I think there are daily flights to Korea and Japan. I saw a departure recently for Guanzhou. On 5/9 PAL is flying to LAX.Ahhh, the Koreans, Japanese and Chinese are mongering in the Philippines as we speak.
There are 3.5 million cases of confirmed cases of covid 19 and as most nations have only tested a fraction of their population expect these numbers to be multiple times higher in reality and still climbing by thousands of cases per day.
Look at living conditions for most poor pinoys, 10 people sleeping in one tiny room, from grandparents to new born babies, no access to clean running water, no sanitation, can you honestly see phills numbers lowering any time soon, I can see only massive gains due to this virus is extremely easy to catch when in close confinement and no running water.
Yes pinoys will eventually have to return to work for the economy but as phills prostitution is a tiny percentage of phills GDP it will be the last to open as is the least important to GDP.
Most Angeles bar owners are openly reporting that they cannot see themselves opening this year at all, many through no funds to keep paying expenses / bribes while they are earning zero pesos for months.
Many ex Angeles bar girls have moved on, multiple reports of ex Angeles bargirls earning far more cammimg and selling dreams to lonely white men all without having to have sex with grand daddy who is 300 lbs and rarely washes.
As far as ford trucks herd immunity well there is none, as has been explained to member ford truck multiple times its possible to catch covid 19 again and again, many proven cases of this in the news.
Mongering in sea will change for good IMHO and may take several years to start to show recovery if at all, hope that I'm wrong but I seriously doubt it.Europe and US take up the bulk of the 3. 5 million numbers and containment is nowhere in sight.
Asia contrastly is flattening and some countries are beginning to lift entry restrictions cautiously.
Philipines though has a tough road ahead but selected areas are still possible to go into GCQ in few weeks.
Country is desperate and soon hunger will strike the citizens.
Its not about prostitution GDP, its about the whole economy and Chinese, Koreans are contributing quite an amount on online gaming, real estate and tourist aspects.
Angeles city bars are just a big joke w the inflated prices and low quality now, it only affects the bar owners and mongers patronisng them. Smart girls will still go online for their trade.
When philipines do allow entry of foreigners, top of list will be China, Korea and those w low virus numbers.
Europe and US have to clear their huge virus numbers before even dream of being in the list.
I think there are daily flights to Korea and Japan. I saw a departure recently for Guanzhou. On 5/9 PAL is flying to LAX.Wouldn't flights to Guangzhou be exclusively to get Chinese out and back to their country? Same for Koreans and Japanese.
Streetlooker
05-08-20, 17:47
I think there are daily flights to Korea and Japan. I saw a departure recently for Guanzhou. On 5/9 PAL is flying to LAX.There are still flts out. There are none coming in. I believe its 2021 till they will lift the incoming flights again unless they get a lot of money waved at them from the Koreans and Chinese to let them come back sooner which I beleiev will be the case.
I think there are daily flights to Korea and Japan. I saw a departure recently for Guanzhou. On 5/9 PAL is flying to LAX.Any flights out of Manila at present are purely "sweeper flights" to allow residents to return direct to their countries.
PH is not issuing ANY visas (tourist or otherwise) for incoming flights. The visa office is CLOSED.
Note my use of CAPITALS.
First incoming flights are presently scheduled for AFTER May 15 (mine is for May 17) and I am allowed to enter PH because I have a permanent (spouse) visa aka a Section 13 A. I have been stuck outside Philippines because all flights from where I am stationed were for OFWs only and the flights were filled.
Any flights out of Manila at present are purely "sweeper flights" to allow residents to return direct to their countries.
PH is not issuing ANY visas (tourist or otherwise) for incoming flights. The visa office is CLOSED.
.....If you had a previously issued visa you cannot enter the country unless you are a 13 A. (I think diplomat are also allowed in but don't expect that many countries will be flying their diplomats around.
SRRV cannot reenter the country.
The sweeper flights are very expensive. The Government of Canada sent me an email saying USD 2200 to Vancouver or 2900 USD to Toronto, one way.
Mandatory 14 day quarantine on arrival as well. Usually Manila to Vancouver on to Winnipeg is less than 1200 to 1500 RETURN.
Wicked Roger
05-09-20, 19:55
Any flights out of Manila at present are purely "sweeper flights" to allow residents to return direct to their countries.
PH is not issuing ANY visas (tourist or otherwise) for incoming flights. The visa office is CLOSED.
Note my use of CAPITALS.
First incoming flights are presently scheduled for AFTER May 15 (mine is for May 17) and I am allowed to enter PH because I have a permanent (spouse) visa aka a Section 13 A. I have been stuck outside Philippines because all flights from where I am stationed were for OFWs only and the flights were filled.This sums it up nicely what RK said. Some people are delusional or their balls are so big and full they ignore the virus as they must release the every growing agony LOL (so love thyself if so bad).
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/05/10/2013001/international-flights-naia-start-tomorrow
There are still flts out. There are none coming in. I believe its 2021 till they will lift the incoming flights again unless they get a lot of money waved at them from the Koreans and Chinese to let them come back sooner which I beleiev will be the case.I too forsee it will be the case, Chinese and Koreans money are the easiest way for Philipines economic recovery.
Past few years of economic growth is for us to see.
Its just matter of time and when philipines is comfortable w their virus numbers since Korea and China had theirs contained.
Some people just had to face reality that Chinese and Koreans are the new favorites of the philipines.
Some people just had to face reality that Chinese and Koreans are the new favorites of the philipines.This is your opinion only Datiao. I have plenty of evidence that my country is still a favorite of the Philippines but again, it's my opinion only.
You should check out the actual money that is exchanged at Governmental level before you make such silly statements. The money brought in by tourists in AC or POGO Chinese is chicken-feed compared to the bi-lateral loans and grants that other countries bestow on the Philippines. Have a look at OECD or ADB or WB charts.
BTW. If you plan to move to the Philippines as you stated, maybe you should learn to spell your new country correctly (and perhaps use a capital P as is the international convention).
This is your opinion only Datiao. I have plenty of evidence that my country is still a favorite of the Philippines but again, it's my opinion only.
You should check out the actual money that is exchanged at Governmental level before you make such silly statements. The money brought in by tourists in AC or POGO Chinese is chicken-feed compared to the bi-lateral loans and grants that other countries bestow on the Philippines. Have a look at OECD or ADB or WB charts.
BTW. If you plan to move to the Philippines as you stated, maybe you should learn to spell your new country correctly (and perhaps use a capital P as is the international convention).Yeah definitely opinions only.
So the loans you mentioned is already given, so is there new loans anytime soon just by opening foteign entry to them?
Jobs are created by POGO, tourism, real estate are direct economic benefits to the people, so the effects will be fast.
Look at how Koreans being preferred in philipines especially Angeles city where so many mongers, expats are lamenting and complaining being ignored by the girls.
Look at how people criticize Chinese and Koreans for over paying and girls just love these guys.
I m not planning, I m already staying in the philipines.
Hahaha. Does my English bother you that much?
By the way, I m not from China nor Korea.
GoodEnough
05-10-20, 10:53
Yeah definitely opinions only.
So the loans you mentioned is already given, so is there new loans anytime soon just by opening foteign entry to them?
Jobs are created by POGO, tourism, real estate are direct economic benefits to the people, so the effects will be fast.
Look at how Koreans being preferred in philipines especially Angeles city where so many mongers, expats are lamenting and complaining being ignored by the girls.
Look at how people criticize Chinese and Koreans for over paying and girls just love these guys.
I m not planning, I m already staying in the philipines.
Hahaha. Does my English bother you that much?
By the way, I m not from China nor Korea.Your English is somewhat difficult to follow, but in case facts matter at all, Japan is by far the largest bilateral donor to the Philippines, providing almost twice the amount given / lent by China. And yes, these grants and loans have enormous job-creating impacts on the country far in excess of the trivial amount spent by Chinese and Korean tourists in girlie bars. You should really listen to folks like RK who know whereof they speak.
GE.
Your English is somewhat difficult to follow, but in case facts matter at all, Japan is by far the largest bilateral donor to the Philippines, providing almost twice the amount given / lent by China. And yes, these grants and loans have enormous job-creating impacts on the country far in excess of the trivial amount spent by Chinese and Korean tourists in girlie bars. You should really listen to folks like RK who know whereof they speak.
GE.Loans are still loans and you need to return hopefully without much interest.
Spending and investments create more sustainable jobs and businesses and in a way reduce reliance on loans.
Now we are on the topic about benefits of opening up entry to foreigners in this pandermic, so loans are not directly related. But allowing Chinese and Koreans in will definitely have direct impact on jobs and businesses. Japan also can be included since their virus numbers are under control.
Lets see what Duterte does next.
Now we are on the topic about benefits of opening up entry to foreigners in this pandermic, so loans are not directly related. But allowing Chinese and Koreans in will definitely have direct impact on jobs and businesses. Japan also can be included since their virus numbers are under control.
.Even if Philippines is open, countries that have spent billions of dollars containing the problem in their country will not risk their citizens returning with the virus. I predict that without conclusive and verifiable proof that Covid will make it hard for Ph to be open for our fly-in / fly-out purposes.
Even if Philippines is open, countries that have spent billions of dollars containing the problem in their country will not risk their citizens returning with the virus. I predict that without conclusive and verifiable proof that Covid will make it hard for Ph to be open for our fly-in / fly-out purposes.Agreed, we just have to wait a few months to see how the situation is heading and how the leaders of various countries deal with it.
Presently I just hope some areas of philipines can go into GCQ in a month for a good start.
NapaSlapper
05-11-20, 01:14
Even if Philippines is open, countries that have spent billions of dollars containing the problem in their country will not risk their citizens returning with the virus. I predict that without conclusive and verifiable proof that Covid will make it hard for Ph to be open for our fly-in / fly-out purposes.Have to fully agree.
Lets not forget that any would be visitor to the phills will have to spend a minimum 28 days in quarantine,14 days on arrival and 14 days on return to ones country.
As by far the most visitors to the Phills for mongering are short stay visitors then the quarantine periods required will make any trip to the Phills impossible for most.
GoodEnough
05-11-20, 03:15
Agreed, we just have to wait a few months to see how the situation is heading and how the leaders of various countries deal with it.
Presently I just hope some areas of philipines can go into GCQ in a month for a good start.My guess, based mor o inference than fact is the when the country does re-open to international visitors, it will restrict the number of countries from which visitors are allowed, and US citizens will not among the first allowed entry given the inadequate response to the pandemic. But hell, that's just my guess.
GE.
My guess, based mor o inference than fact is the when the country does re-open to international visitors, it will restrict the number of countries from which visitors are allowed, and US citizens will not among the first allowed entry given the inadequate response to the pandemic. But hell, that's just my guess.
I agree with GE's guess that there will be severe restrictions on who can travel and where they can go.
I predict that countries will also demand that visitors seeking visas of any form will have to satisfy very specific criteria such as provision of a health certificate obtained within 72 hours before travel and health / travel insurance cover of at least $25000 USD. Cambodia has already instituted this requirement for visitors once the borders are opened, but the travel insurance coverage is $50,000 USD. PH is likely to follow this trend.
Streetlooker
05-11-20, 06:23
I too forsee it will be the case, Chinese and Koreans money are the easiest way for Philipines economic recovery.
Past few years of economic growth is for us to see.
Its just matter of time and when philipines is comfortable w their virus numbers since Korea and China had theirs contained.
Some people just had to face reality that Chinese and Koreans are the new favorites of the philipines.Its only been 2 months of shutdown the government is still running on past surplus money But its not being replaced with new money so has soon as the money runs low they open it back up. They will have no choice But too.
Its only been 2 months of shutdown the government is still running on past surplus money But its not being replaced with new money so has soon as the money runs low they open it back up. They will have no choice But too.Philipines just finished distributing cash assistance of 200 billion to 18 million poor families working out to be 5-8 k pesos per family, likely slightly more than 1 k a person.
The country is desperate and much more is the President.
Every 2-4 weeks, reviews are done whether to move areas from ECQ to GCQ and flights scheduling which routes to resume.
Guys I have been monitoring the situation daily for any updates and official information and it seems there has been some news. I am just trying to scrape to together the various bits of official info to get the complete picture. It would be great to discuss this and for others to add what they know from official sources without rumour or conjecture.
Here is what I have been able to gather. NAIA has now reopened with a limited schedule. According to the IATA website the information that foreigners are barred from entry has been removed. After trawling through the Embassy of the Philippines London Website all references to visa and visa waiver suspensions have also been removed and replaced with advice for foreigner nationals entering the Philippines.
Now here is where things start to get a little muddy. The advice for foreign nationals entering the Philippines is in the form of a very large pdf document with a lot of acronyms and jargon. After a speed reading through it, it seems foreigners will be subject to rapid testing upon arrival and will have to wait for the results in a facility (I think for 14 days). If the results are negative you will then self quarantine for 14 days.
Therefore at the moment unless you plan on going for a month or longer it seems totally unpractical.
Here is what I have been able to gather. NAIA has now reopened with a limited schedule. According to the IATA website the information that foreigners are barred from entry has been removed. After trawling through the Embassy of the Philippines London Website all references to visa and visa waiver suspensions have also been removed and replaced with advice for foreigner nationals entering the Philippines.
Foreigners are not banned from entering the Philippines, but foreigners without a permanent visa (a 13 A) or a Philippines passport cannot yet get a visa.
I have a 13 A, and when I enter next week (hopefully) I will be tested and then allowed to go to my designated home address for self-quarantining for 14 days.
Wicked Roger
05-11-20, 20:44
I agree with GE's guess that there will be severe restrictions on who can travel and where they can go.
I predict that countries will also demand that visitors seeking visas of any form will have to satisfy very specific criteria such as provision of a health certificate obtained within 72 hours before travel and health / travel insurance cover of at least $25000 USD. Cambodia has already instituted this requirement for visitors once the borders are opened, but the travel insurance coverage is $50,000 USD. PH is likely to follow this trend.I agree with GE and RK on this. Some countries I had planned to visit for work now demand COVID 19 free certificate issued ONE day before arrival. This can be impractical if flying half way across the globe.
The need for medical insure is already required for non Europeans visiting Schengen on a visit visa (Euro 30000) so I will not be surprised if the Philippines introduced this.
As for restricting foreigners. Am sure many countries what no one from the USA visiting anytime soon as well as people from selected European countries. This is sensible (unless they have the correct certificates or something) followed by 14 days somewhere. Meaning you likely can't monger etc. So for a short time wham bang thank you maam visit to AC or anywhere you spend 14 days playing with yourself watching porn LOL.
Certainly the country needs FDI and cash as some say but also there seems to be many dreamers on the board or mongers with extremely large blue balls letting their todger to the thinking and writing LOL.
Now here is where things start to get a little muddy. The advice for foreign nationals entering the Philippines is in the form of a very large pdf document with a lot of acronyms and jargon. After a speed reading through it, it seems foreigners will be subject to rapid testing upon arrival and will have to wait for the results in a facility (I think for 14 days). If the results are negative you will then self quarantine for 14 days.
Therefore at the moment unless you plan on going for a month or longer it seems totally unpractical.Well agreed, so that's depend on individual whether any restrictions is suitable for him. So if you can't afford a long holiday, then its not feasible. Can't expect too much in this pandermic. Maybe better to stay put and find alternatives.
And also the countries where he was in from past 14 days is very important for kind of restrictions made towards him.
Looking from the top virus numbers chart, some countries definitely are in the doldrums and will be barred entry.
The low virus ones will have easier access and less stringent.
Guess some of these unlucky people will be eating sour grapes for quite awhile but its inenvitable.
As for those already there, its a matter whether you can get a live in partner to ride through the ECQ as most accomodations don't allow visitors and transportation halted.
Once moved into GCQ, first thing for me is to change the girl.
Its only been 2 months of shutdown the government is still running on past surplus money But its not being replaced with new money so has soon as the money runs low they open it back up. They will have no choice But too.Surplus cash! President Duterte is having lots of trouble finding the actual surplus cash. Surplus cash and emergency funds on the books is one thing as they found with Typhoon Yolanda.
When funds are distributed there is quite a shrinkage factor.
Just announced apart from Manila, Laguna n Cebu city ECQ extended till end May, all other areas going from ECQ into GCQ from 16 May.
A cautious trial start, lets see how it progress, hopefully smooth sailing to slowly revive the domestic economy.
Wicked Roger
05-12-20, 07:48
Just announced apart from Manila, Laguna n Cebu city ECQ extended till end May, all other areas going from ECQ into GCQ from 16 May.
A cautious trial start, lets see how it progress, hopefully smooth sailing to slowly revive the domestic economy.My 2 cents is that it will spike and get worse as the high density plus small number of tests will mean more cases etc. Add to the that what on pinay said is the 'hard headed ignorant' attitude of many equals a possible recipe for disaster. Look at USA as this will spike now many Trump supporting states says lets open and do our thing without test at a safe number.
At least the President is trying hard and even threatened the country with martial law a few weeks back if people did not obey the rules. But despite this I read about 130 k violations!
People are dreaming of they think they can return to the country before July at the earliest and even then likely restrictions with possible 14 days in a hotel and all alone- not bode well for the short term 10 monger to AC or an other city!
DG. I agree was chatting with GE on this and we said what happened to the billions of dollars of aid that was raised from Yolanda. Plus current complaints of not getting he hand out at all or being short changed by the barangay people. Nothing changes in that respect as pinoy will / can / does s**t on each other when cash is concerned. Sad but I know some cuties whose families have not received the hand out etc.
Streetlooker
05-12-20, 11:49
Surplus cash! President Duterte is having lots of trouble finding the actual surplus cash. Surplus cash and emergency funds on the books is one thing as they found with Typhoon Yolanda.
When funds are distributed there is quite a shrinkage factor.See its gone already. New money must start to flow again soon. Lets get this full open by Sept. And party.
See its gone already. New money must start to flow again soon. Lets get this full open by Sept. And party.Have been talking to few girls and mamasans. They are all on my chat list. Firstly like most ask for money saying no food etc which I ignore.
They are all on the opinion that entertainment district will close down and none of the bars will be allowed to open after lockdown. Korean owned casinos, bars with hotels outside fields avenue will be allowed to open with restrictions. All were told to go home and maybe will be hired back. All have no place to go to without money. Families only like you if you bring in the bacon to fatten their stomachs. Koreans will hire only the ' Doll ' types when they open. All the rest have no options but to move god knows where. There is no place comparable to Angeles city in Philippines. Koreans are the only ones going there for now. Government cannot afford to shutdown Korean businesses. Government would want Angeles city to be upscale entertainment and manufacturing business destination. Just like myriad of casinos and upscale karaoke bars in Manila. No more run of the mill cheap bars with hundreds of girls. Well anyway this is what the girls think.
Chocha Monger
05-18-20, 01:43
Have been talking to few girls and mamasans. They are all on my chat list. Firstly like most ask for money saying no food etc which I ignore.
They are all on the opinion that entertainment district will close down and none of the bars will be allowed to open after lockdown. Korean owned casinos, bars with hotels outside fields avenue will be allowed to open with restrictions. All were told to go home and maybe will be hired back. All have no place to go to without money. Families only like you if you bring in the bacon to fatten their stomachs. Koreans will hire only the ' Doll ' types when they open. All the rest have no options but to move god knows where. There is no place comparable to Angeles city in Philippines. Koreans are the only ones going there for now. Government cannot afford to shutdown Korean businesses. Government would want Angeles city to be upscale entertainment and manufacturing business destination. Just like myriad of casinos and upscale karaoke bars in Manila. No more run of the mill cheap bars with hundreds of girls. Well anyway this is what the girls think.Well, the party had to end sometime. All of the Western pensioners who moved to AC for the cheap bars and even cheaper pussy will have to adapt or move on. Many will take their chances with the street pussy lurking in the back alleys.
They are all on the opinion that entertainment district will close down and none of the bars will be allowed to open after lockdown. Let's see about that. The "licensing" agencies for sure miss their monthly cash flow.
Let's see about that. The "licensing" agencies for sure miss their monthly cash flow.A valid point but there are many areas around the world where mongering has fallen out of favour and whole precincts have been shut down, "commissions" notwithstanding.
AC has been a failing business model for a long time now. As the bright lights and fun places have been replaced with seedy bars there has been less and less political will to support it.
Essentially full prepayment. Unhappy and fewer guests. Less pretty girls. Less bright lights, party atmosphere and semi respectable appearance. Less support. A downward spiral.
Enjoy. G.
Essentially full prepayment. Unhappy and fewer guests. Less pretty girls. Less bright lights, party atmosphere and semi respectable appearance. Less support. A downward spiral.
No argument here, it used to be a fun town, now it's a shadow of its former glory. Coming to think of it, during my last visit (February) I did barhop and bought a few mamas drinks in exchange for some chismis about current state of affairs, but barfined exactly zero girls. All my romps were either sourced online or HiSo, which are the new fishponds, cutting out the middlemen. I also did a regular for a few days, but she appears to be tracking the AC quality index, so that was likely my last time with her.
But, Fields and especially Perimiter have been down for count before, and managed to swing back. We'll see.
But, Fields and especially Perimiter have been down for count before, and managed to swing back. We'll see.My heart says I'd love to see AC come back bigger and better than before but my (big) head is sceptical.
I don't think it would be too hard to have a look around at the other successful monger areas or wider business world and emulate them. Jeez, Pattaya WS and Puket have litterally bus loads of tourist arrive to gawk and oooh and ayah at the bright lights and sights. The whole online world has moved to transparency of service and performance based pay structures. Pay what I ask, for an unknown service level, and fuck off if you don't like it is a receipe for disaster.
Cheers. G.
GoodEnough
05-18-20, 06:09
My heart says I'd love to see AC come back bigger and better than before but my (big) head is sceptical.
I don't think it would be too hard to have a look around at the other successful monger areas or wider business world and emulate them. Jeez, Pattaya WS and Puket have litterally bus loads of tourist arrive to gawk and oooh and ayah at the bright lights and sights. The whole online world has moved to transparency of service and performance based pay structures. Pay what I ask, for an unknown service level, and fuck off if you don't like it is a receipe for disaster.
Cheers. G.For whatever it's worth, I'm told that ABC Hotel is opening again this week, restaurants and all.
GE.
FuriousGeorge
05-18-20, 21:06
I for one am going to be extremely disappointed if things in AC don't return to normal. I've been going twice a year for 3 years now. Something about this dumpy little town with its sexy little girls. I find very charming and relaxing. Normally I'd be there next month but obviously not now. Here's hoping for the best. As soon as you gents with boots on the ground tell me things are back to normal, I will be booking my trip immediately.
Member #4794
05-26-20, 07:21
Well the China virus has us all locked down for the time being bar girls are saving to death in the province and I have had the bluest balls I can remember however.
I came across an interesting youtube video, posted today from a monger a story of a nightmare barfine.
"The strongest "evil girl" I met in Angeles, Go Go Bar. Share of experiences Men's Trip Men's Trip Tuber Torajiro Angeles Walking street gogobar".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_maIlCUgRA
If you have been a monger long enough we have all been caught off guard because most of these women are sweet and understanding and quite frankly just do their job. They work hard for the money they get and in my opinion deserve every penny. Every once in a while however you get a real "fake" gem that really spoils the lot.
I will sum up that video he went to the bars early after arriving at around 4 pm, so he killed some time before heading to the bars and some of them were closed or just opening. So he eventually made it to his favorite bar. He then proceeded to bar fine a girl that caught his eye now this is where the warning signs started but it seems like she had this down to a science, so she had on some old shoes so she wanted new ones. After she picked out the shoes she added some pants and other stuff from the store. He then asked how much it was and the shop owner said 1000 so he relented and paid for it. So now they were on the topic of food, she suggested a seafood restaurant. So they proceeded to go to a seafood restaurant and she ordered 6 crab and I imagine everything to go along with it, he said the bill came to 7500 which he pointed out was the same price as his airfare to AC LOL!. EDIT: i forgot to add that he didn't have the 7500 so he tried to pay with a credit card to which they refused and he had to use an ATM in a questionable area. Something also transpired at his hotel that i was unable to translate about a fee. So hes in about 8500+the bar fine at this point. She then suggests that she wants cake. He joking says she has two stomachs so she needed to fill the other one with cake. I don't know if he purchased the cake or not I assume so. She then says she just got a text that that her mom fell down and is in the hospital. She she says she needs money for the hospital bill. To which he tried to get out of paying, by saying he would accompany her to pay it. So by this time he just wants to get to the "deed" and get rid of her. So now they make their way to his hotel room. She then be-lines it to the mini fridge and starts to eat the chocolate bars. He then asks her to take a shower to which she refused, he proceed to take a shower and then went to the bed where I'm not sure if they had sex or not I couldn't catch that part but he said she was very unaccommodating and was complaining the whole time. He was contemplating going back to the shop and ask for a charge back, and funny enough he met another monger when he flew back to his home country who had been taken by the same girl and had the same experience. He also later found out that she got fired from that bar.
I know this forum usually is filled with "better than tho" bravado and how you would NEVER fall for these tricks.
But if you have been a monger for 10-20 years you will one day come across one girl that you just want to fuck especially if you have extremely blue balls. Don't underestimate how many IQ points you lose when you haven't had sex in a while by the time you are able to compute what is happening its over. And you will get too deep underwater doing it, and spending way more than she is worth. I have been victim maybe not to this extent but I have had my fare share of unsavory bar fines. How about you will you get a tad vulnerable during this lock down and share your worst bar fine experience?
One that always gets me is when 2 hot chicks seem to be into each other and I end up paying twice the bar fine for half ass service but it gets me almost every time. I am always expecting a hot lesbian show but get 2 girls on their cellphones and a huge let down not to mention twice the cost.
To all of us with giant blue balls waiting for the virus to subside hang in there, all these girls will be extremely hungry after this ends they will be back in full force, only a matter of time.
Mr Enternational
05-26-20, 08:49
If you have been a monger long enough we have all been caught off guard because most of these women are sweet and understanding and quite frankly just do their job. They work hard for the money they get and in my opinion deserve every penny. Caught of guard? By a hooker? Somebody that I was paying money to fuck? I always thought they were hookers because they did not want to work hard. Hmmm. Once again, put yourself in the position of showing up without money. Are you still picturing her as sweet and understanding? Or are you not picturing her at all, because she is no longer there!
I know this forum usually is filled with "better than tho" bravado and how you would NEVER fall for these tricks.
But if you have been a monger for 10-20 years you will one day come across one girl that you just want to fuck especially if you have extremely blue balls.Of course I can say never because I realize what a hooker is for. I am paying to fuck a hooker, not to parade her around and spend more money on her as what happened in the story. How do you come across a hooker that you just want to fuck, you pay your money to fuck her, in addition you spend twice that on some bullshit trying to impress her, then you do not fuck her? That takes a special kind of stupid. NEVER!
Member #4794
05-26-20, 11:08
Of course I can say never because I realize what a hooker is for. I am paying to fuck a hooker, not to parade her around and spend more money on her as what happened in the story. How do you come across a hooker that you just want to fuck, you pay your money to fuck her, in addition you spend twice that on some bullshit trying to impress her, then you do not fuck her? That takes a special kind of stupid. NEVER!This guy relatively did not pay as much as some manila hoes cost. I don't think this is a case of impressing her. It is just what some hookers try and get away with (she learned it from "someone") you might be wizened enough to shut this kind of girl down before she gets started. I think you will find a lot of these guys here will not admit to the more egregious things they have done and I think that only serves to further exacerbate an underlying problem that they allow these girls to get away with such fuckery. I like that you are unwilling to acquiesces I think we need more of that in this community however I think you are a rarity and from what I have observed the past 5 or so years, the guys who have just started to monger within the past 5 years, this new breed of monger do not have your mindset and spoil this new breed of hooker. I still tend to find my catches in the Barangays across phils because these AC hoes are so spoiled that I don't have the patience to deal with the bullshit, I normally spend in a week on a girl from the barangay what these guys spend for a LT hooker that being said, I will admit however there is a very short moment of weakness from when I am fresh off the plane and looking for that first nut or on a layover I might put up with a larger amount of bullshit than I normally would otherwise and actually find a barfine in AC for old times sake.
This guy relatively did not pay as much as some manila hoes cost. I don't think this is a case of impressing her. It is just what some hookers try and get away with (she learned it from "someone") you might be wizened enough to shut this kind of girl down before she gets started. I think you will find a lot of these guys here will not admit to the more egregious things they have done and I think that only serves to further exacerbate an underlying problem that they allow these girls to get away with such fuckery. I like that you are unwilling to acquiesces I think we need more of that in this community however I think you are a rarity and from what I have observed the past 5 or so years, the guys who have just started to monger within the past 5 years, this new breed of monger do not have your mindset and spoil this new breed of hooker. I still tend to find my catches in the Barangays across phils because these AC hoes are so spoiled that I don't have the patience to deal with the bullshit, I normally spend in a week on a girl from the barangay what these guys spend for a LT hooker that being said, I will admit however there is a very short moment of weakness from when I am fresh off the plane and looking for that first nut or on a layover I might put up with a larger amount of bullshit than I normally would otherwise and actually find a barfine in AC for old times sake.I think the crux of the problem is that the guy has already paid the barfine. He may be thinking that if he doesn't buy her 1000 php worth of clothes, she will walk away and his barfine will be a loss. He doesn't realize that he is thowing good money after bad. He should have returned her when she proposed dinner, and gotten his BF back. She probably would have been fired earlier, which would have saved another guy the hassle (and set an example for her co-workers).
I know. Mr E never pays barfines. They discovered that Chuck Norris' tears cure COVID. The only problem is, Chuck Norris never cries.
BroComplex
05-26-20, 23:34
He should have returned her when she proposed dinner, and gotten his BF back. She probably would have been fired earlier, which would have saved another guy the hassle (and set an example for her co-workers).
Return her where? To the bar? You are delusional if you think you can get a refund in a bar.
NapaSlapper
05-27-20, 02:05
Return her where? To the bar? You are delusional if you think you can get a refund in a bar.Just to make barfines clear to mongers who might want to visit Angeles city for the 1st time or those who have not visited in years.
When one pays the 3,4,5,000 pesos early work release to a bar it is strictly to allow the girl to leave the bar early, it sure does not mean one is paying to have sex with said girl.
Try to return a girl to the bar for any reason will have the owner or mama firmly advise that prostitution in the Phills is illegal and carries a mandatory jail sentence of 20 years without parole for the bar owner or the punter caught in prostitution activity, therefore the bar only accepted payment for early work release of the girl not to have sex with the girl as that would be illegal, no refunds, sorry.
Return her where? To the bar? You are delusional if you think you can get a refund in a bar.It's been a loooong time since the bar takes the punters' side. Girls, especially girls who are not too hideously ugly, are far harder to find and keep than mongers.
Enjoy. G.
It's been a loooong time since the bar takes the punters' side. Girls, especially girls who are not too hideously ugly, are far harder to find and keep than mongers.
Enjoy. G.I've gotten barfines back before. Once when a girl ended up getting her period as we were starting. And another time when the girl ended up being difficult in the room. Another time I had barfined a girl and told her to come to my hotel at 6 pm. She ended up not wanting to come for 1 reason or another and she came to my hotel and gave me my bar fine back.
Its a business, you're a customer. If you didn't get service, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't get your money back. That said, your mileage may vary.
NapaSlapper
05-27-20, 07:59
I've gotten barfines back before. Once when a girl ended up getting her period as we were starting. And another time when the girl ended up being difficult in the room. Another time I had barfined a girl and told her to come to my hotel at 6 pm. She ended up not wanting to come for 1 reason or another and she came to my hotel and gave me my bar fine back.
Its a business, you're a customer. If you didn't get service, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't get your money back. That said, your mileage may vary.Over the very recent past multiple bars have been raided, multiple bar owners arrested, multiple mamasuns arrested, multiple bars never allowed to open again, why, because they were set up in sting operations with foreigners working for the police handing over marked money in exchange for barfines.
Do you honestly expect this board to accept that bar owners would risk the possibility of a long prison sentence and possibly lose his bar for good in order to hand a punter a refund for non performance which would be a 100% admission that he was a human trafficker dealing in prostitution, the mind boggles it really does.
Goffering is completely correct in stating that the punter means zero and the girls mean everything to the bar, many punters but very very few girls that are young, slim and attractive so almost impossible to replace should a bar owner upset the little princess.
WestCoast1
05-27-20, 14:32
It's been a loooong time since the bar takes the punters' side.
Try to return a girl to the bar for any reason will have the owner or mama firmly advise that prostitution in the Phills is illegal and carries a mandatory jail sentence of 20 years without parole for the bar owner or the punter caught in prostitution activity, therefore the bar only accepted payment for early work release of the girl not to have sex with the girl as that would be illegal, no refunds, sorry.
Return her where? To the bar? You are delusional if you think you can get a refund in a bar.
I've gotten barfines back before. Once when a girl ended up getting her period as we were starting.Different gents will have different experiences, but I am with Kazeu. I have written about specific experiences in years past where I got barfines back (or partial barfines) in both AC and Cebu. Admittedly those were unusual experiences, but they occurred. Alternately, instead of a refund, a mama or manager offered a different girl.
To agree with the other gents, certainly the OP confessing that he took the girl out of the bar for a long period of time (ie, drinks, dinner, shopping, etc) would most probably cause the manager to refuse the refund. Jesus de Christo we've been thru that before: Bang the girl first, shop / feed / wine / dine her after.
Pinaypounder
05-27-20, 15:12
I certainly agree with you, but off course we are not experts like so many others here. I have posted prior that I respect them, they earn there money and I have had problems. Never returned one but I don't bar fine often and when I do its right to action with food possibly to follow so more action can be obtained.
PP.
Pinaypounder
05-27-20, 15:40
My heart says I'd love to see AC come back bigger and better than before but my (big) head is sceptical.
I don't think it would be too hard to have a look around at the other successful monger areas or wider business world and emulate them. Jeez, Pattaya WS and Puket have litterally bus loads of tourist arrive to gawk and oooh and ayah at the bright lights and sights. The whole online world has moved to transparency of service and performance based pay structures. Pay what I ask, for an unknown service level, and fuck off if you don't like it is a receipe for disaster.
Cheers. G.There is a large Mongering infrastructure in Angeles. Its Clients will be scared especially Asians given my observations here almost all wear masks walking alone and driving alone.
Also the products (the girls) have got to be hungry and their families who they support also. So they will want to return and generate lots of revenues.
There will have to be proper incentives to get them to return. So perhaps things will be better?
One can only hope!
PP.
Streetlooker
05-27-20, 18:06
Well the China virus has us all locked down for the time being bar girls are saving to death in the province and I have had the bluest balls I can remember however.
I came across an interesting youtube video, posted today from a monger a story of a nightmare barfine.
"The strongest "evil girl" I met in Angeles, Go Go Bar. Share of experiences Men's Trip Men's Trip Tuber Torajiro Angeles Walking street gogobar".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_maIlCUgRA
If you have been a monger long enough we have all been caught off guard because most of these women are sweet and understanding and quite frankly just do their job. They work hard for the money they get and in my opinion deserve every penny. Every once in a while however you get a real "fake" gem that really spoils the lot.
I will sum up that video he went to the bars early after arriving at around 4 pm, so he killed some time before heading to the bars and some of them were closed or just opening. So he eventually made it to his favorite bar. He then proceeded to bar fine a girl that caught his eye now this is where the warning signs started but it seems like she had this down to a science, so she had on some old shoes so she wanted new ones. After she picked out the shoes she added some pants and other stuff from the store. He then asked how much it was and the shop owner said 1000 so he relented and paid for it. So now they were on the topic of food, she suggested a seafood restaurant. So they proceeded to go to a seafood restaurant and she ordered 6 crab and I imagine everything to go along with it, he said the bill came to 7500 which he pointed out was the same price as his airfare to AC LOL!. EDIT: i forgot to add that he didn't have the 7500 so he tried to pay with a credit card to which they refused and he had to use an ATM in a questionable area. Something also transpired at his hotel that i was unable to translate about a fee. So hes in about 8500+the bar fine at this point. She then suggests that she wants cake. He joking says she has two stomachs so she needed to fill the other one with cake. I don't know if he purchased the cake or not I assume so. She then says she just got a text that that her mom fell down and is in the hospital. She she says she needs money for the hospital bill. To which he tried to get out of paying, by saying he would accompany her to pay it. So by this time he just wants to get to the "deed" and get rid of her. So now they make their way to his hotel room. She then be-lines it to the mini fridge and starts to eat the chocolate bars. He then asks her to take a shower to which she refused, he proceed to take a shower and then went to the bed where I'm not sure if they had sex or not I couldn't catch that part but he said she was very unaccommodating and was complaining the whole time. He was contemplating going back to the shop and ask for a charge back, and funny enough he met another monger when he flew back to his home country who had been taken by the same girl and had the same experience. He also later found out that she got fired from that bar.
I know this forum usually is filled with "better than tho" bravado and how you would NEVER fall for these tricks.
But if you have been a monger for 10-20 years you will one day come across one girl that you just want to fuck especially if you have extremely blue balls. Don't underestimate how many IQ points you lose when you haven't had sex in a while by the time you are able to compute what is happening its over. And you will get too deep underwater doing it, and spending way more than she is worth. I have been victim maybe not to this extent but I have had my fare share of unsavory bar fines. How about you will you get a tad vulnerable during this lock down and share your worst bar fine experience?
One that always gets me is when 2 hot chicks seem to be into each other and I end up paying twice the bar fine for half ass service but it gets me almost every time. I am always expecting a hot lesbian show but get 2 girls on their cellphones and a huge let down not to mention twice the cost.
To all of us with giant blue balls waiting for the virus to subside hang in there, all these girls will be extremely hungry after this ends they will be back in full force, only a matter of time.This guy should have bailed at the 6 crabs. Or even the 1000 pants. Fact is the shopping and eating don't even happen at all till the 1st fuck is over period. Even the most naive of cherry boys would not get screwed this bad. I have not met a girl in 35 yrs of mongering on Fields or Sukhumvit that I would regret NOT fucking if she's starting the Bullshit. March her right back to the bar get the barfine back and go pick another girl. Stop being a simp your paying customer you make the fucking rules not the girl. I ran into bad situations with the girls and I just bail on them best thing to do. There is another girl waiting on stage of 40 other bars on fields area within a HR after that bad situation is handled you can be in a Good situation with another girl. There is just NO reason to stay 1 second longer then you have to in a bad situation.
Streetlooker
05-27-20, 18:23
This guy relatively did not pay as much as some manila hoes cost. I don't think this is a case of impressing her. It is just what some hookers try and get away with (she learned it from "someone") you might be wizened enough to shut this kind of girl down before she gets started. I think you will find a lot of these guys here will not admit to the more egregious things they have done and I think that only serves to further exacerbate an underlying problem that they allow these girls to get away with such fuckery. I like that you are unwilling to acquiesces I think we need more of that in this community however I think you are a rarity and from what I have observed the past 5 or so years, the guys who have just started to monger within the past 5 years, this new breed of monger do not have your mindset and spoil this new breed of hooker. I still tend to find my catches in the Barangays across phils because these AC hoes are so spoiled that I don't have the patience to deal with the bullshit, I normally spend in a week on a girl from the barangay what these guys spend for a LT hooker that being said, I will admit however there is a very short moment of weakness from when I am fresh off the plane and looking for that first nut or on a layover I might put up with a larger amount of bullshit than I normally would otherwise and actually find a barfine in AC for old times sake.The 1st nut off the plane should always be a Short time. And the deal happens before the barfine is paid Does she give BJs is a question you need to ask before the money is paid. WE are going to a short time Hotel and we are going to fuck and I bust a Nut you get your barfine money plus 500 tip if your good and 1 HR later we go our separate ways. She's happy I am happy and all is good. I love GFE but there is No shopping going to happen with a 1st time girl. You got to love your money more then pussy.
PedroMorales
05-27-20, 18:36
Though Pampanga is a big money spinner, it is on a par with hair cuts. Much more important is that foreign remittances start coming back in. If Duterte allows long haired marshmallows back in any time soon, OCW, who are dying in significant numbers from Covid19, will share the bad rap. Pampanga is off the menu until the world economy picks up, IE 2021 at the earliest.
Streetlooker
05-27-20, 18:39
Return her where? To the bar? You are delusional if you think you can get a refund in a bar.In 35 yrs I have only had to return 3 girls to the bar for refunds and all 3 times I didn't have a Lick of trouble getting that money back. If they are going to start Bullshit it will be known quickly into the ride or walk back to the hotel. If they stop and look at clothes or shoes that's when you cut them off say no if they start pouting you take them back to the bar. One girl I got flipped in about 15 minutes the mama knew I just took her out had a look of what the fuck you back here already for look on her face. We had a Chat I got money back and I left the girl to her mamasan. I don't care what happens to a Girl that trying to bullshit me. Like I said 35 yrs and I had 3 problem girls so I guess I am lucky. Now starfish fucks those are a whole other story. They are more often but they do get thru to session thou its disappointing.
NapaSlapper
05-28-20, 00:27
Different gents will have different experiences, but I am with Kazeu. I have written about specific experiences in years past where I got barfines back (or partial barfines) in both AC and Cebu. Admittedly those were unusual experiences, but they occurred. Alternately, instead of a refund, a mama or manager offered a different girl.
To agree with the other gents, certainly the OP confessing that he took the girl out of the bar for a long period of time (ie, drinks, dinner, shopping, etc) would most probably cause the manager to refuse the refund. Jesus de Christo we've been thru that before: Bang the girl first, shop / feed / wine / dine her after.Just so newbies are clear on the rules of barfine returns.
Yes you might have received a refund on a returned girl many years ago, but since the changing of the human trafficking laws and the constant bar raid years bar owners attitudes have changed completely as far as refunds and returning girls to the bar for the reasons I have already posted.
Have to fully agree with you that one should always do the banging first and the courting last if at all.
NapaSlapper
05-28-20, 00:44
I see a lot of bravado on this forum, guys claiming I am the boss and my hoe does what I want or its the highway.
Guys claiming I make sure the girl agrees to what I want before I pay the barfine.
I say, a girl can promise one the world in the bar only to not perform said deeds back at the room, what can one actually do?,nothing much is the answer, why, because anger a pinay enough where she calls the police then things are not going to end well for the punter, if one is lucky it might cost several thousands of dollars to get out of (of course decided up amongst the girl and police), or refuse to pay and ones ass is very likely to end up in the cells on human trafficking charges.
Sorry to tell the brave but unfortunately the girls are in charge and dictate not the punter.
WestCoast1
05-28-20, 13:31
Sorry to tell the brave but unfortunately the girls are in charge and dictate not the punter.BTW, each bar sets its own refund policy. One can easily ask the management what that is prior to taking a girl.
Mr Enternational
05-28-20, 13:56
I see a lot of bravado on this forum, guys claiming I am the boss and my hoe does what I want or its the highway.
Guys claiming I make sure the girl agrees to what I want before I pay the barfine.
I say, a girl can promise one the world in the bar only to not perform said deeds back at the room, what can one actually do?,nothing much is the answer, why, because anger a pinay enough where she calls the police then things are not going to end well for the punter, if one is lucky it might cost several thousands of dollars to get out of (of course decided up amongst the girl and police), or refuse to pay and ones ass is very likely to end up in the cells on human trafficking charges.
Sorry to tell the brave but unfortunately the girls are in charge and dictate not the punter.Calls the police and says what? I followed this guy to his room and he wanted to fuck? I wish I would think a bich was ever in charge of me. That is how simps are made. With this kind of thinking it is no wonder all these chicks are leading foreigners around by their noses and getting them to send money. Bich better kick rocks if she thinks she is calling shots over here. Once again it comes to paying after. But yeah yeah, I know, mfs that say it is impossible to pay after are the ones that have never tried to.
Add me to the list of guys that have gotten refunds. I also personally know of others that got refunds. Bars have been busted, and will be busted. That didn't matter when getting the refund. However, there are bars that do NOT give refunds. (The Wolf Pack bars.) You took the girl out, end of story.
Calls the police and says what? I followed this guy to his room and he wanted to fuck?Asia is the land of doing whatever you can get away with. Act like you own the place and you can do pretty much anything you want. Act lost and confused and you will be screwed over and royally so.
When ever I've been threatened with calling friends in the army or cops, I've just called their bluff. A couple of times, when I was in very familiar surroundings, I've handed over my phone and said she can call any General she wants in my Contacts list. That's always ended the argument straight away.
I've paid my share of just go away money for dud sessions but threats and intimidation have rarely worked in the girls' favour.
Enjoy. G.
LargeBanana
05-28-20, 22:58
Asia is the land of doing whatever you can get away with. Act like you own the place and you can do pretty much anything you want. Act lost and confused and you will be screwed over and royally so.
When ever I've been threatened with calling friends in the army or cops, I've just called their bluff. A couple of times, when I was in very familiar surroundings, I've handed over my phone and said she can call any General she wants in my Contacts list. That's always ended the argument straight away.
I've paid my share of just go away money for dud sessions but threats and intimidation have rarely worked in the girls' favour.
Enjoy. G.Learn to say NO in a polite but firm manner. Look for early signals. If you are confidant with saying NO, she will understand and will not try bullshit.
My rules.
Rule number 1, Is the girl smiling and look wanting to please. Only then do I call her.
Rule number 2, observe her pitch. Is she a salesgirl trying to upsell.
Rule number 3, Ask a few details upfront. I always ask do you allow sucking boobs. If the girl is hesitant or make some excuse, BAIL.
Rule number 4 make clear what you want and the price. I say, once fuck when we go to hotel room, once in the night and once in the morning. If she is hesitant, BAIL (she does not even want to do it once and can't bear her job).
Rule number 5, ask for cost upfront and if she charges extra.
Naked Gunz
05-29-20, 00:32
I really think what you may lose from a runner or bad performer is nothing compared to the life your escaping from in the West. The real "Simps " are the men that continue to prop up the "Happy Wife Happy Life" crap. Why are you comparing cock size by announcing who you will and won't pay a few fucking pesos? You were lied to from birth about what your "supposed to do" (Put a ring on it and make babies) which you will lose anyway when she walks with half your shit. If she runs, or is a star fish, I lose what, 20-30 bucks? I can always get another one! To me, it has happened maybe twice, or three times tops in 25 years of mongering. However, the high 6 figure house I no longer own, the fucking thousands in child support along with the tons of post divorce arguments still haunt me. I love being a monger. I just deal with the runners, and learn the game in how not to pick them.
BTW, each bar sets its own refund policy. One can easily ask the management what that is prior to taking a girl.Gone are the days when girls are told in no subtle way to please the customers or else. Gone are the days when the bars want loyal customers. Gone are the days of expected all night sex. Gone are the days expecting to get at least one time sex. Gone are days when you can put some pressure to get sex. Gone are the days of getting refund.
NapaSlapper
05-29-20, 02:44
Calls the police and says what? I followed this guy to his room and he wanted to fuck? I wish I would think a bich was ever in charge of me. That is how simps are made. With this kind of thinking it is no wonder all these chicks are leading foreigners around by their noses and getting them to send money. Bich better kick rocks if she thinks she is calling shots over here. Once again it comes to paying after. But yeah yeah, I know, mfs that say it is impossible to pay after are the ones that have never tried to.Say what? How about he tried to rape me, how about I'm under age, how about planting things under your bed or in your fridge for the cops to find, the list is endless.
Guys can sit behind computer screens and act the big bollocks, but have seen the same foreigners crying like babies once caught in a scam or shown the cells.
Again, never anger a pinay where she wants to get back at you, you will lose every time regardless of how big you thinks you are.
NapaSlapper
05-29-20, 02:51
Gone are the days when girls are told in no subtle way to please the customers or else. Gone are the days when the bars want loyal customers. Gone are the days of expected all night sex. Gone are the days expecting to get at least one time sex. Gone are days when you can put some pressure to get sex. Gone are the days of getting refund.Exactly, have to agree with you 100%, most guys that claim anything else are living in the very distant past.
Naked Gunz
05-29-20, 06:30
Gone are the days when girls are told in no subtle way to please the customers or else. Gone are the days when the bars want loyal customers. Gone are the days of expected all night sex. Gone are the days expecting to get at least one time sex. Gone are days when you can put some pressure to get sex. Gone are the days of getting refund.Gone are the days when I go to a bar. I walk past them all the time and go straight to HISO after drinking all my drinks before I arrive, and after arranging my meet ups thru apps. No more expecting a tip for the least little shit attention you have showed me thru a massage I don't want, stage full of malnourished fugly moms, a drink for your friend, touts walking thru sell fucking peanuts, and on and on at the bar. They are all going Korean anyway.
BroComplex
05-29-20, 13:22
Gone are the days when girls are told in no subtle way to please the customers or else. Gone are the days when the bars want loyal customers. Gone are the days of expected all night sex. Gone are the days expecting to get at least one time sex. Gone are days when you can put some pressure to get sex. Gone are the days of getting refund.You are %100 correct. On the other hand the freelancers market is booming. Last year I took a hiso freelancer to cebu for 10 days 1 k a day. That's not the usual price for LT but it is possible with freelancers, try to negotiate that with a bar. Like I said before the bars business model is outdated, they are too expensive and they are not needed anymore, there are free pussy to be had everywhere in the Philippines and if you are too lazy to hunt a freelancer will cost you a fraction what bargirl charge for a starfish action followed by a runner if you even managed to get her to the room.
Member #4698
05-29-20, 13:40
You are %100 correct. On the other hand the freelancers market is booming. Last year I took a hiso freelancer to cebu for 10 days 1 k a day. That's not the usual price for LT but it is possible with freelancers, try to negotiate that with a bar. Like I said before the bars business model is outdated, they are too expensive and they are not needed anymore, there are free pussy to be had everywhere in the Philippines and if you are too lazy to hunt a freelancer will cost you a fraction what bargirl charge for a starfish action followed by a runner if you even managed to get her to the room.Then why bother going to AC when there are hundreds / thousands of FL's in Manila & Cebu City?
AC's draw has always been the girly bars and their point & shoot galleries of girls. Some of us still like the bars for meeting & hooking up with girls although the pay in advance AC style has become a moral hazard for some girls. That's one of the reasons I prefer Burgos Bars. The other reason is overall Burgos has sexier/better girls.
NapaSlapper
05-29-20, 14:01
You are %100 correct. On the other hand the freelancers market is booming. Last year I took a hiso freelancer to cebu for 10 days 1 k a day. That's not the usual price for LT but it is possible with freelancers, try to negotiate that with a bar. Like I said before the bars business model is outdated, they are too expensive and they are not needed anymore, there are free pussy to be had everywhere in the Philippines and if you are too lazy to hunt a freelancer will cost you a fraction what bargirl charge for a starfish action followed by a runner if you even managed to get her to the room.Yes there is free pussy everywhere in the phills but for the pinoys not for the foreigners, especially older, fatter foreigners.
Usually the girls that are willing to spend all day with a punter for 1000 pesos are the girls that cannot get takers for any more pesos, if they could get more then that is exactly what they would have done, there is not a prostitute the world over that will undersell herself.
As far as freelancers and hiso club then it is very hit and miss in there, many nights not a cutie to be found, other nights a few cuties can be found but guess what they are Korean only girls that demand 3,000 pesos short time 1 pop deals.
In life one gets what one pays for comes to mind.
Member #4794
05-29-20, 14:08
Then why bother going to AC when there are hundreds / thousands of FL's in Manila & Cebu City?.Freelancers in Cebu are great, in fact CEBU might be the BEST place to pick up freelancers, lapu-lapu girls are some of the sweetest you'll ever meet, no need to import a pampanga hoe to CEBU. UNLESS you are going to grab a hooker from AC to be a guide that will suck your dick along with take you to the more exotic places in the Philippines. Such as a bar girl that lives in samar, mindinao or cagayan that will show you around her little slice of paradise that is otherwise fairly inconvenient to travel to alone. I personally don't like tour guides because they are often times males, not 1 dime more than necessary of my money is going to feed a male if I can help it. But if I take a girl back to her province I do not pay her I include the flight and travel expenses into the amount I would usually pay and if it exceeds what I would normally tip I make it clear that she is already getting an all expense paid trip back to the province.
I could see taking a girl from a distant province and importing her to a major city like a girl from Cagayan de Oro and get her to fly into Clark / AC but taking hookers from AC to another destination that is also known for freelancers is a waste imo.
BroComplex
05-29-20, 14:31
Then why bother going to AC when there are hundreds / thousands of FL's in Manila & Cebu City?
AC's draw has always been the girly bars and their point & shoot galleries of girls. Some of us still like the bars for meeting & hooking up with girls although the pay in advance AC style has become a moral hazard for some girls. That's one of the reasons I prefer Burgos Bars. The other reason is overall Burgos has sexier/better girls.I like to start my trip with a 3-4 days in AC for the price and convenience. It's impossible to find a LT in Manila for 2-3 k even LA cafe is a short time only also having everything within a walking distance is a huge plus for me, in Manila you have to choose either LA cafe and stay in malate which is disgusting or makati and prepare to pay triple what I would pay in Angeles for a short time. I use my time in Angeles to line up online dating girls in the city I'm going to.
The reason I took Angeles girl was because I didn't have much luck in Cebu, I went on several dates and slept with a few but none of them came close to Angeles freelancer looks and performance so I decided instead of chasing after different girls to just fly Angeles freelancer and explore the city with her for the remaining days instead of wasting all my day going from one date to the other hoping to get lucky.
BroComplex
05-29-20, 14:47
Yes there is free pussy everywhere in the phills but for the pinoys not for the foreigners, especially older, fatter foreigners.
Usually the girls that are willing to spend all day with a punter for 1000 pesos are the girls that cannot get takers for any more pesos, if they could get more then that is exactly what they would have done, there is not a prostitute the world over that will undersell herself.
As far as freelancers and hiso club then it is very hit and miss in there, many nights not a cutie to be found, other nights a few cuties can be found but guess what they are Korean only girls that demand 3,000 pesos short time 1 pop deals.
In life one gets what one pays for comes to mind.I always manage to sleep with beautiful collage girls for free after 2-3 dates in Manila that means sometimes things doesn't workout and I end up sleeping alone but I always find a good one to keep for the reminder of my trip and the total cost ends up way less than what I would pay in Angeles. I also always find attractive girls in hiso you standards must be insanely high but I have to admit I do pay the 3 k for girls I don't know but only for LT then I repeat for 1-1. 5 k ST during the day.
Mr Enternational
05-29-20, 17:09
Say what? How about he tried to rape me, how about I'm under age, how about planting things under your bed or in your fridge for the cops to find, the list is endless.
Guys can sit behind computer screens and act the big bollocks, but have seen the same foreigners crying like babies once caught in a scam or shown the cells.
Again, never anger a pinay where she wants to get back at you, you will lose every time regardless of how big you thinks you are.They can actually say any of this even without you angering them. So is everyone that has interest in a pinay (or any woman on the planet for that matter) to walk on eggshells, cower, or to go around kissing their asses hoping they do not do anything that is on this endless list? Ridiculous!
Member #4794
05-29-20, 17:35
...Cebu, I went on several dates and slept with a few but none of them came close to Angeles freelancer looks and performance....Only advantage in AC is its easier to get a bar fine (Cebu bar fines are horrible), Freelancer though Quality wise and performance wise Cebu namely Moalboal and Lapu-Lapu have way better looking girls than you will find in AC, google Miss Lapu-Lapu / Binibining Lapu-Lapu that quality of girl is there year round looking for some extra cash. Leave the AC trash in AC.
BroComplex
05-29-20, 19:21
Only advantage in AC is its easier to get a bar fine (Cebu bar fines are horrible), Freelancer though Quality wise and performance wise Cebu namely Moalboal and Lapu-Lapu have way better looking girls than you will find in AC, google Miss Lapu-Lapu / Binibining Lapu-Lapu that quality of girl is there year round looking for some extra cash. Leave the AC trash in AC.In my opinion cebu is not good for freelancers. Mango has more ladyboys than girls, Ayala you hear mentioned a lot has no girls at all, nightclubs are either 90% local guys or korean guys and the other 10% are taken girls in mixed groups they are basically a sausage fest, lapu-lapu is mostly a shanty town and I doubt you will find many freelancers it's too far from Cebu so when you go there you completely eliminate the city girls.
The only reliable way to meet girls in cebu is online. I find girls in cebu are more eager to meet than manila girls with no effort sometimes all I have to do is message the girl Hi do you want to meet and boom an hour later we are having coffee in Ayala.
Cebu might be great for someone staying there for a long time if you are going there on a short vacation like a month or less you going to waste sometime networking.
Member #4794
05-29-20, 20:45
Mango has more ladyboys than girls, Ayala you hear mentioned a lot has no girls at all, nightclubs are either 90% local guys or korean guys and the other 10% are taken girls in mixed groups they are basically a sausage fest,..You are just doing it wrong. It sounds like you went to gay bars and ladyboy hangouts. I have actually never seen a bakla in cebu I'm not looking for that kind of action so if you are into ladyboys I don't have anything for you. Shanty town? ALL of the Philippines is shanty town.
BroComplex
05-29-20, 21:05
You are just doing it wrong. It sounds like you went to gay bars and ladyboy hangouts. I have actually never seen a bakla in cebu I'm not looking for that kind of action so if you are into ladyboys I don't have anything for you. Shanty town? ALL of the Philippines is shanty town.90% of mango street walkers are ladyboys and the other 10% are pimps asking if you want a girl.
John Gault
05-29-20, 21:06
I really think what you may lose from a runner or bad performer is nothing compared to the life your escaping from in the West. The real "Simps " are the men that continue to prop up the "Happy Wife Happy Life" crap. Why are you comparing cock size by announcing who you will and won't pay a few fucking pesos? You were lied to from birth about what your "supposed to do" (Put a ring on it and make babies) which you will lose anyway when she walks with half your shit. If she runs, or is a star fish, I lose what, 20-30 bucks? I can always get another one! To me, it has happened maybe twice, or three times tops in 25 years of mongering. However, the high 6 figure house I no longer own, the fucking thousands in child support along with the tons of post divorce arguments still haunt me. I love being a monger. I just deal with the runners, and learn the game in how not to pick them.You make a ton of sense.
You are just doing it wrong. It sounds like you went to gay bars and ladyboy hangouts. I have actually never seen a bakla in cebu I'm not looking for that kind of action so if you are into ladyboys I don't have anything for you. Shanty town? ALL of the Philippines is shanty town.Hardly the case. Not all of the Philippines is a shanty town. There are some nice places. Try Taguig, or Makati.
Last time I was in Cebu, 6 months ago, there were plenty of lady boys. You don't need to go to ladyboy "hangouts" to encounter them. They are everywhere. Ladyboys are part of the culture.
Mango used to be good maybe 10 years ago. Things have changed a lot since then. Koreans came and drove all the prices up. In my opinion Cebu is best for general "dating".
Although there are quite a few ladyboys in Mango. More than girls? Doubtful. Unless the stars align correctly (or incorrectly rather). Clubholic is still a good time but not a place to look for hookers anymore. You just go and try your luck. Try to be either young and good looking or white enough to attract someone.
Hookers can be found in Octogon or at Lotus in Lapu Lapu, but these venues are generally dominated by koreans and most of the women there are going to be looking for koreans. Expect to pay korean prices as well.
So yea, in general you got to play the dating game or be korean. But rest assured, your chances in cebu are probably far better than whatever western country you may be from. Cebuanas in general are open minded.
In my opinion cebu is not good for freelancers. Mango has more ladyboys than girls, Ayala you hear mentioned a lot has no girls at all, nightclubs are either 90% local guys or korean guys and the other 10% are taken girls in mixed groups they are basically a sausage fest, lapu-lapu is mostly a shanty town and I doubt you will find many freelancers it's too far from Cebu so when you go there you completely eliminate the city girls.
The only reliable way to meet girls in cebu is online. I find girls in cebu are more eager to meet than manila girls with no effort sometimes all I have to do is message the girl Hi do you want to meet and boom an hour later we are having coffee in Ayala.
Cebu might be great for someone staying there for a long time if you are going there on a short vacation like a month or less you going to waste sometime networking.
Wicked Roger
05-29-20, 23:49
Mango used to be good maybe 10 years ago. Things have changed a lot since then. Koreans came and drove all the prices up. In my opinion Cebu is best for general "dating".
Although there are quite a few ladyboys in Mango. More than girls? Doubtful. Unless the stars align correctly (or incorrectly rather). Clubholic is still a good time but not a place to look for hookers anymore. You just go and try your luck. Try to be either good looking or white enough to attract someone.
Hookers can be found in Octogon or at Lotus in Lapu Lapu, but these venues are generally dominated by koreans and most of the women there are going to be looking for koreans. Expect to pay korean prices as well.
So yea, in general you got to play the dating game or be korean. But rest assured, your chances in cebu are probably far better than whatever western country you may be from. Cebuanas in general are open minded.I would with you on these observations Kazeu. Try ICON club also as this full of normal working / office pinays and as longa s you are not a douche bag that smells bad and has terrible habit you should be fine.
Us older ones are seen as white and 'rich' (the latter is generally untrue certainly in my case LOL) but as long you are dressed OK smell OK you can get whatever you wants.
As for LBs they hang around coffee shops in Ayala, I have seen some get their boobs out and compare, been tossed out for being too noisy (basically they wanted everyone to know they were LBs and stare so they screamed like silly girls) - the 2 white guys with also left LOL.
Yes they are hang around but unless you are blind you would know to avoid.
Cebuana are IMHO the best but we can agree to disagree. 90%+ of my cuties are from Cebu and once they trust you and know your tastes etc they will 'recommend' friends so you don't go online. Not sure when I was last on DIA etc as no need.
Koreans are everywhere but many see=don't like them (apart from the cash of course) as they smoke, drink, smell. One girl I have known for years will take Koreans but is open enough to say that plus she said they can't get too horny after a night on the whiskey so she gets the cash for basically being there and sometimes doing a naked dance. Westerners tend to want a tad more than that LOL.
But there are plenty of fish in the sea and if you treat a Cebuana nicely she will reward you.
I really think what you may lose from a runner or bad performer is nothing compared to the life your escaping from in the West. The real "Simps " are the men that continue to prop up the "Happy Wife Happy Life" crap. Why are you comparing cock size by announcing who you will and won't pay a few fucking pesos? You were lied to from birth about what your "supposed to do" (Put a ring on it and make babies) which you will lose anyway when she walks with half your shit. If she runs, or is a star fish, I lose what, 20-30 bucks? I can always get another one! To me, it has happened maybe twice, or three times tops in 25 years of mongering. However, the high 6 figure house I no longer own, the fucking thousands in child support along with the tons of post divorce arguments still haunt me. I love being a monger. I just deal with the runners, and learn the game in how not to pick them.I was a lucky Sob to figure this out 25 years ago as a young buck. Your advice in this post is information that all young men need to hear from a father figure. Hell, there even old timers out there that still haven't figured this out. That thought of "put a ring on it and make babies" crap was something I never caved into because of family, friends, and society in general. That game called marriage is rigged (Specifically, here in the USA, and the west in general).
I have personally seen my dear friends, and male family members get hammered emotionally and financially because of divorce. That is just how things have evolved over the years, wasn't always like this. So as to this post by NAked Gunz, right on the money when you compare the risk of losing a couple of bucks, than compared to all headaches involved in that marriage ideal. If that's your biggest possible problem, you have it a lot better compared to many others. Just my to cents.
Only advantage in AC is its easier to get a bar fine (Cebu bar fines are horrible), Freelancer though Quality wise and performance wise Cebu namely Moalboal and Lapu-Lapu have way better looking girls than you will find in AC, google Miss Lapu-Lapu / Binibining Lapu-Lapu that quality of girl is there year round looking for some extra cash. Leave the AC trash in AC.AC has volumes of girls and is close to MNL. The quality was dreadful in Cebu. The best girls had East Asian clientele who had no problems over paying. AC and Cebu has fallen on hard times. But Cebu is more work.
Member #4794
05-31-20, 15:11
Cebuana are IMHO the best but we can agree to disagree. 90%+ of my cuties are from Cebu and once they trust you and know your tastes etc they will 'recommend' friends so you don't go online. Not sure when I was last on DIA etc as no need.
This is exactly what I was trying to point out a lot of guys kind of get stuck on the ease of use that AC provides but once you get those training wheels off and learn how to network with the girls. These girls all way have friends and often times friends that never street walk that are only accessible via recommendation. These girls are like organic fruit compared to the artificial fruit you'll find in AC. They are not as jaded and not as demanding as AC hookers are while I admit they do require more work its worth it to have that GFE experience that AC used top provide 10 years ago.
I'm glad that you got the chance to experience what I was trying to get across, I urge more mongers to find out what a treat it is to spend time with these girls but since most mongers are lazy and let be honest scared they will most likely only go after girls walking around in the main red light districts they will never know how sweet and appreciative cebuana freelancers can be. Something about these cebuanas being tied to that island that makes them different.
One might be able to find girls in the vicinity of AC that are of the same quality, in tarlac, san fernanado, or bulacan, The jeepney terminals import workers from the surrounding provinces, When I am in AC I always have a few girls from the surrounding provinces lined up for import.
WHY? When you have such a large pocket of girls why would you import one from a surrounding province why go through that trouble? There is some fundamental issue with these girls being extremely jaded, once they give in and become a full time hooker they tend to change their out look on how they treat "customers". I have some old contacts that I met on DIA that are from local barangays such as anuunas which is far west in Angeles city MANY of the girls that I have dated in the past from dating sites and recommendations toy with the idea of working in a bar for years and will instead try to find dates online or through friends that already work in bars or other freelancers. Getting these girls before they work in bars or walk the streets makes a world of difference in my opinion. The girls I used to love now full on bar girls have totally changed into something unrecognizable to me and quite frankly unattractive. Once in a while I am in the mood for a bar girl and I have to say I still have a soft spot for these bars so I enjoy being close to the action and I do also bar fine on occasion. If at all possible I try to nut 2 times a day, day time short time at a bar and then a "date" later on in the day. I do both. I don't wine and dine hookers but I do go on "dates" where I enjoy some genuine company. Hookers I tend to catch and release but these girls from the province I tend to hold onto a bit longer.
BroComplex
05-31-20, 16:02
This is exactly what I was trying to point out a lot of guys kind of get stuck on the ease of use that AC provides but once you get those training wheels off and learn how to network with the girls. These girls all way have friends and often times friends that never street walk that are only accessible via recommendation. These girls are like organic fruit compared to the artificial fruit you'll find in AC. They are not as jaded and not as demanding as AC hookers are while I admit they do require more work its worth it to have that GFE experience that AC used top provide 10 years ago.
I'm glad that you got the chance to experience what I was trying to get across, I urge more mongers to find out what a treat it is to spend time with these girls but since most mongers are lazy and let be honest scared they will most likely only go after girls walking around in the main red light districts they will never know how sweet and appreciative cebuana freelancers can be. Something about these cebuanas being tied to that island that makes them different.
One might be able to find girls in the vicinity of AC that are of the same quality, in tarlac, san fernanado, or bulacan, The jeepney terminals import workers from the surrounding provinces, When I am in AC I always have a few girls from the surrounding provinces lined up for import.
WHY? When you have such a large pocket of girls why would you import one from a surrounding province why go through that trouble? There is some fundamental issue with these girls being extremely jaded, once they give in and become a full time hooker they tend to change their out look on how they treat "customers". I have some old contacts that I met on DIA that are from local barangays such as anuunas which is far west in Angeles city MANY of the girls that I have dated in the past from dating sites and recommendations toy with the idea of working in a bar for years and will instead try to find dates online or through friends that already work in bars or other freelancers. Getting these girls before they work in bars or walk the streets makes a world of difference in my opinion. The girls I used to love now full on bar girls have totally changed into something unrecognizable to me and quite frankly unattractive. Once in a while I am in the mood for a bar girl and I have to say I still have a soft spot for these bars so I enjoy being close to the action and I do also bar fine on occasion. If at all possible I try to nut 2 times a day, day time short time at a bar and then a "date" later on in the day. I do both. I don't wine and dine hookers but I do go on "dates" where I enjoy some genuine company. Hookers I tend to catch and release but these girls from the province I tend to hold onto a bit longer.I find it weird that girls recommend their friends to you all the girls I've been with have been very possessive and they get angry and jealous if I mentioned I want to try another girl.
Member #4794
05-31-20, 16:54
I find it weird that girls recommend their friends to you all the girls I've been with have been very possessive and they get angry and jealous if I mentioned I want to try another girl.There are many of ways this can take place and you have to be leading it to this point for the beginning and not allow any possessive tendencies to build. At the end of the day its about money If you ever do run across a Philippina that doesn't want your money watch out.
Right from the get go just proclaim your self to be a pero-pero or butterfly, be up front with what you want. Just be honest, I'm not telling you to unload your life story here I'm saying be honest about what you "want". If you want to run through her whole family tree and fuck 3 generations of her family namely her mom, grandma and her this can happen. If you want to fuck ever cousin she has this can happen in the Philippines. Tell her what you want and attach a price to it. I oftentimes offer a commission for introductions to girls like a matchmaking free as an incentive. So if they don't have to fuck you and they still get paid win win as far as they are concerned. I have fucked ALL of the girls I've seen in facebook group pictures this is possible in the Philippines. So you DO want to go visit her home where she lives, you DO want to go to the birthday partys for their kids you DO want her to bring a friend that does not work in bars every woman I see is fair game. Every woman I see also has a number they will do dirty shit for and every woman I see knows I am interested in fucking them. Don't settle for the girl you are with, if you meet a bar girl or freelancer and you look at her Facebook and see the woman of your dreams ask to meet up this might cost you some jollybee or a videoke session but that's peanuts compared to what you will receive in return. I go over the mamasan network in some of my older posts here that I use not only in phils but in other countries a well. Older ladys you might meet in phils know you aren't interested in their dried up hideous pussy so they are waiting for their chance to offer you something of interest like a cousin, daughter (of age all ways get a valid ID, BEFORE the fun), or someone that lives in their barangay. You will be surprised when a battle to set you up with a "good girl" happens when you visit her barangay and they start offering you girls that don't work in the bars. And these are less sleazy type arrangements there is still sex involved but it is more compensated dating than it is something else. Familys are alot more wiling to let a college age girl that is just leeching off the family go with ONE guy rather than working in a bar fucking the whole town. But like I said I'm not cheap I just don't like spending money on hookers, that being said I still barfine girls for SEX ONLY AND fuck the good ones I find in the barangay but those girls I keep with me for companionship. I honestly don't think a guide needs to be written for bars its pretty straight forward but picking up girls from the barangay is a little more involved but very worthwhile.
Wicked Roger
05-31-20, 20:57
AC has volumes of girls and is close to MNL. The quality was dreadful in Cebu. The best girls had East Asian clientele who had no problems over paying. AC and Cebu has fallen on hard times. But Cebu is more work.We would agree to disagree on this Cool which is fine as we all see the world differently. You need to work at it OK fine, I am happy doing that but then I have quality not quantity. Some prefer the quantity of AC and don't care what they shag as long as it has a hole and costs around a PHP1000 or less. That's not me.
I have been to AC and got the T Shirt and hate it as for me it is soulless and there is limited quality. I go back for sex parties arranged by friend's wives but then she find the odd AC girl to join and then he is able as a pinay to get some better ones but I have always brought my own to AC just in case LOL.
All girls who want cash may want South Korean or Japanese. This has been written about before but in end there are those who are no exclusive (I have shagged them but not from AC, they were in Cebu and a few mongers who know me shared the pleasure of the ladies).
Cebu is work if you are lazy, if you have bad habits, smell of a sewer etc. And are cheap LOL.
Montana FR on using contacts I do and works perfectly and always will. Depends what you aim and game is.
Wicked Roger
05-31-20, 21:04
If you want to run through her whole family tree and fuck 3 generations of her family namely her mom, grandma and her this can happen. If you want to fuck ever cousin she has this can happen in the Philippines.
I honestly don't think a guide needs to be written for bars its pretty straight forward but picking up girls from the barangay is a little more involved but very worthwhile.While you may like a lola MM I have standards and tastes mainly LOL I tend to avoid MILF / GILFs though admit to the odd one or two (but all are slime and kinky as some on the board know). But once you have contacts they bring more contacts and it builds. As long as you are a decent chap, good hygiene etc there are limited issues.
I have had multiple sessions with sisters (truly bisexual) and sisters and cousins, cousins and distant relatives etc all due to being a nice guy (with some cash of course LOL).
Even had a session with six pinays all bisexual and all related to each other in some way (close or distant way I did not care at the time!
Plus mother and daughters at times. All is possible if you are patient, decent and have good manners etc.
As for paying commissions I have rarely don't that but I know others who do and this works well for them so each to his own.
I find it weird that girls recommend their friends to you all the girls I've been with have been very possessive and they get angry and jealous if I mentioned I want to try another girl.Some do some don't. If they want a real relationship they will not put up with you fucking other girls, at least with knowing that you are fucking other girls.
I have a long term regular, she occasionally wants assurance that I am not fucking other girls but she knows full well that I am. It is difficult to hide as some of these girls shed more than a husky dog in the springtime. She has seen other girls hair in my apartment but pretends not to.
Another regular actually likes bring me other girls, over the years she has brought me 20 or so, when she cannot make it because mother nature is calling, she has sent me girls. When we text chat, she always asks me how many girls I have fucked, not out of jealousy but just as regular conservation.
WestCoast1
06-01-20, 16:10
I find it weird that girls recommend their friends to you all the girls I've been with have been very possessive and they get angry and jealous if I mentioned I want to try another girl.Happens -- sometimes I get a referral. Other times its just like you mentioned, possessiveness. Being very up-front with the ladies about my proclivities helps. Girls who get possessive get dropped quickly.
Another regular actually likes bring me other girls, over the years she has brought me 20 or so, when she cannot make it because mother nature is calling, she has sent me girls. When we text chat, she always asks me how many girls I have fucked, not out of jealousy but just as regular conservation.One of my current lockdown girls is a referral, another girl brought her to me in March.
It is difficult to hide as some of these girls shed more than a husky dog in the springtime. She has seen other girls hair in my apartment but pretends not to.Getting the hairs off the floor and out of the bed is another chore when some possessives visit to avoid the Bi $#ing. I forgot the second toothbrush once, heard about that. They know what is going on, accuse and whatever but still stay and come back. I just pretty much ignore them. The possessives are the good clean girls who have regular jobs and are totally GFE, just the way I like them. It is worth it to me to do a little housekeeping ahead of their visits.
Getting the hairs off the floor and out of the bed is another chore when some possessives visit to avoid the Bi $#ing. I forgot the second toothbrush once, heard about that. They know what is going on, accuse and whatever but still stay and come back. I just pretty much ignore them.After years of practice, I've perfected acting stupid with a blank look on my face. 🤔.
I'm too lazy, hate mind games and as you said there is an unspoken agreement that everyone knows what is happening but pretends to not notice. No need to rub girls faces in our activities but there is no point to running around just to pretend.
Enjoy. G.
After years of practice, I've perfected acting stupid with a blank look on my face. 🤔.
....I call that my dumb white guy routine. It also works wonders when a cop or customs type is trying to shake you down. Just act dumb and they often will just send you on your way.
I call that my dumb white guy routine. It also works wonders when a cop or customs type is trying to shake you down. Just act dumb and they often will just send you on your way.That's exactly what happened when I was pulled over for a minor traffic infringement, I had my front bike wheel just over the white line at a traffic light.
The traffic police guy waited patiently for me to turn toward him then he pulled me over.
Traffic infringement sir. Me: I don't think so. Him - it's on CCTV. Me Ok let's watch the CCTV. Him - that will take many days and until then no licence. Me - ok, let's wait. At this point I was supposed to just pay him. I didn't know.
Then further.
Him. Ok, I give you ticket now, oh my ticket book is full. Me OK, go get another. Him oh sir that will take many hours, you must wait here. Me OK, let's wait. At this point again I was supposed to just give him the fine to fill it out when he has his new book.
I was hungry anyway so I said I would wait at the Jollibee while he got his new book of tickets.
About an hour later he came back realising I didn't know how the corrupt cop ticket scam works. He returned my licence and went away. No ticket, no fine, no bribe.
PP.
Streetlooker
06-07-20, 11:23
Yes there is free pussy everywhere in the phills but for the pinoys not for the foreigners, especially older, fatter foreigners.
Usually the girls that are willing to spend all day with a punter for 1000 pesos are the girls that cannot get takers for any more pesos, if they could get more then that is exactly what they would have done, there is not a prostitute the world over that will undersell herself.
As far as freelancers and hiso club then it is very hit and miss in there, many nights not a cutie to be found, other nights a few cuties can be found but guess what they are Korean only girls that demand 3,000 pesos short time 1 pop deals.
In life one gets what one pays for comes to mind.1. Never get confrontational or lose your temper with a with a Filipina. Its Completely unnecessary to do so. Filipina's will 99.999% always take a submissive role in dealing with a man. They will also always give a submissive position to the older person. This has been taught to them from birth dealing with their fathers uncles and older brothers. And Grandmothers mothers and ates. That's why you always here them say " up to you" whenever you ask them what they want to do or where you want to go or where you want to eat. Filpina's Never like confrontation they will shut down very fast.
2 Bargirls have many forms of Ids on them required from the bar. Got to make it a early habit every time you call a girl down off a stage or pick up a freelancer to check the girls age. Its almost impossible (Not 100% but damn close) a girl is working in the bar underage in today world. I Don't see any owner of a Bar taking that chance. If there are underage in bars I be pretty shocked. Freelancers on the other hand are where you will come across the underage girls with sisters Ids. If the girl looks to young Its best to not even engage in a deal with her. Its your risk thou if want to take a chance go for it. But don't cry if that 20 minutes of boom boom cost you 20 years in Manila sharing a room with 30 others on a hard floor mat. " Has Clint Eastwood would say "do you feel lucky punk, Well do ya"?
3. Dealing with bad service or disappointing service. Its best here to just not tip them but always pay the agreed to price. See rule 1 its just not worth the hassle over 10 bucks just pay and let her go peacefully. Shit happens in the mongering world.
4. You have to love your money more then you love her pussy. She wants your Money and you want her pussy Make her earn it you worked to hard to just give it away for nothing. In other words Don't think with your dick You will always have a problem if you do.
Streetlooker
06-07-20, 11:48
I am sitting here on Day 83 of fields lockdown and I am really missing it. I really want to go on a good barhop tonight.
I am sitting here on Day 83 of fields lockdown and I am really missing it. I really want to go on a good barhop tonight.Is there any activity? Does it look like businesses are taking steps to open? Take a ride and report.
NapaSlapper
06-07-20, 13:13
I am sitting here on Day 83 of fields lockdown and I am really missing it. I really want to go on a good barhop tonight.Must be the excellent San Miguel beer you are missing by not having walking street open because it sure can't be the very low quality of girls that were on offer LOL.
By the way things are heading with long closures of the bars and no sign of an end who knows what bars will still be around come time to open again.
Streetlooker
06-07-20, 13:16
Is there any activity? Does it look like businesses are taking steps to open? Take a ride and report.Fields walking street from one sign in front of Envy to the other sign by McDonald has been strictly blocked off since March 16th. There has Been NO CHANGE in this at all. We go to MGCQ on July 15th and I don't think it changes then either. It will remain Blocked IMO till total curfew and quarantines are lifted full 100 % whenever the hell that may be. Phillies and Envy are open to pick up only I think 11 am to 6 pm. drug stores mini marts and 7-11's open. All stores require Mask to enter. Cellphone and clothes stores stalls in that area open, Solon's are still not has of today June 7 . ( Maybe tomorrow) The Blue taxi were out in fill force June 1 and the Jeeps are Now running 50% capacity starting I think Friday June 5th Msk required to ride. The Malls open also Food Medical eyeglasses and drugs and Hardware stores only Mask and quarantine pass require to enter. But that's pretty much it. From ABC hotel to MacArthur this whole strip 83 days and counting. I don't see anything changing much towards Night life entertainment and recreational openings Bars Gyms Casinos ect ect till SEPT 1st at earliest if they ever do. Its over here the party is over.
NapaSlapper
06-07-20, 13:43
Fields walking street from one sign in front of Envy to the other sign by McDonald has been strictly blocked off since March 16th. There has Been NO CHANGE in this at all. We go to MGCQ on July 15th and I don't think it changes then either. It will remain Blocked IMO till total curfew and quarantines are lifted full 100 % whenever the hell that may be. Phillies and Envy are open to pick up only I think 10 am to 8 pm drug stores and 7-11's open But tha'ts pretty much it. 83 days and counting. I don't see anything changing much torards Night life openings till SEPT 1st at earliest. Its over here the party is over.You are 100% correct, I have been denied access to walking street by security at both ends of the street, only thing missing down there is the tumbleweed.
The problems I can see and am hearing from most bar owners is that the longer the lockdown goes on the harder it will be to open back up in the future due to lack of funds to hang on.
Fields walking street from one sign in front of Envy to the other sign by McDonald has been strictly blocked off since March 16th.....Its over here the party is over.Thanks for the update. It explains why there has been an influx of AC based girls online in the past week.
G.
Wicked Roger
06-07-20, 23:14
The problems I can see and am hearing from most bar owners is that the longer the lockdown goes on the harder it will be to open back up in the future due to lack of funds to hang on.I know a few bar owners (not AC but other main cities) who are in huge debt and getting super stressed. The debt needs paying regardless of the virus (banks really don't care despite protestations to the contrary) plus their are other 'debts' that need paying also and that group also don't care much either. A double whammy and can't see a way out of it for some IMHO. Am sure some others are circling like vultures but it does not seem an ideal scenario for many whether you own the bar or use it etc.
Thanks for the update. It explains why there has been an influx of AC based girls online in the past week.
G.I assume the Mt Pinatubo eruption in the early nineties would have shut the AC streets also. AC did come back.
This current event going to lead to a a major change of the monger-girl business. With less venues in AC nature says that there will be new avenues for making contact. This time maybe the internet will be AC's death.
PP.
I know a few bar owners (not AC but other main cities) who are in huge debt and getting super stressed. The debt needs paying regardless of the virus (banks really don't care despite protestations to the contrary) plus their are other 'debts' that need paying also and that group also don't care much either. A double whammy and can't see a way out of it for some IMHO. Am sure some others are circling like vultures but it does not seem an ideal scenario for many whether you own the bar or use it etc.
I assume the Mt Pinatubo eruption in the early nineties would have shut the AC streets also. AC did come back.
This current event going to lead to a a major change of the monger-girl business. With less venues in AC nature says that there will be new avenues for making contact. This time maybe the internet will be AC's death.
PP.I'd agree that it's a difficult position for the few legitimate bar owners. The debt holders are often the types to resolve late payment with extra judicial methods.
The difference between the current situation and the '90's is that now political will and support for red light areas and industries is rapidly fading. Also, those operating merely as front businesses can easily and quickly relocate to areas offering more cover and support.
I've posted before about the numerous easier options for a pretty girl to earn cash than move to a shit hole town, be labelled for life as a whorre, be bored all night every night to meet low end punters. (No offense intended).
Post C19, I don't see AC disappearing entirely but unfortunately it won't be returning bigger and better.
Cheers. G.
Engine Driver
06-08-20, 10:49
I'd agree that it's a difficult position for the few legitimate bar owners.Legitimate businessmen the world over do not go into the prostitution business, particularly in a country where prostitution is illegal. Yes, yes, I know. The girls are only Guest Relations Officers and not prostitutes. The bar fine is more correctly an Early Work Release Permit, allowing the Guest Relations Officer to leave work early so that the bar can recover the revenue which she would have generated from drink sales. Hahahahaha. Many gullible Australian and American retirees, who fancied themselves as international hospitality industry tycoons, invested in bars in AC, but quickly went bust. They didn't realize you needed a proper business plan, beyond what they could draw on a wet cocktail napkin. They also didn't realize the connections needed within city hall and the additional monthly expenses to be made. Most of the other bars are run by international crime syndicates with the full connivance of the police. You all know what the main game is.
In the old days, every kid in RWML dreamt of being a photographer for Playboy. Many mongers think they would be living their dream by owning a bar in AC.
Streetlooker
06-08-20, 11:44
I know a few bar owners (not AC but other main cities) who are in huge debt and getting super stressed. The debt needs paying regardless of the virus (banks really don't care despite protestations to the contrary) plus their are other 'debts' that need paying also and that group also don't care much either. A double whammy and can't see a way out of it for some IMHO. Am sure some others are circling like vultures but it does not seem an ideal scenario for many whether you own the bar or use it etc.A few of them bar owners do deserve a back room mob style beat down IMO. Karma for how much they abused their girls over the years.
Streetlooker
06-08-20, 11:49
Must be the excellent San Miguel beer you are missing by not having walking street open because it sure can't be the very low quality of girls that were on offer LOL.
By the way things are heading with long closures of the bars and no sign of an end who knows what bars will still be around come time to open again.Its more the experience and fun of a Bar hop I miss. There are a few good ones down there they are hard to find But The Hunt for the rare Gems what I miss. When you catch a good one its pretty cool. I agree 90% of what's on offer are not that great.
Legitimate businessmen the world over do not go into the prostitution business, particularly in a country where prostitution is illegal...True. Many now are just fronts to wash dirty money but some have been started by clueless cleanskins with the misguided expectation of "easy" or "cheap" booze, pussy or riches with little more than a few weeks pay as savings and no business skills to build the client base and income.
A very few are run by guys with real business plans, experience running bars, restaurants etc and are successful but even they must be feeling the pinch now.
Fields walking street from one sign in front of Envy to the other sign by McDonald has been strictly blocked off since March 16th. There has Been NO CHANGE in this at all. We go to MGCQ on July 15th and I don't think it changes then either. It will remain Blocked IMO till total curfew and quarantines are lifted full 100 % whenever the hell that may be. Phillies and Envy are open to pick up only I think 11 am to 6 pm. drug stores mini marts and 7-11's open. All stores require Mask to enter. Cellphone and clothes stores stalls in that area open, Solon's are still not has of today June 7 . ( Maybe tomorrow) The Blue taxi were out in fill force June 1 and the Jeeps are Now running 50% capacity starting I think Friday June 5th Msk required to ride. The Malls open also Food Medical eyeglasses and drugs and Hardware stores only Mask and quarantine pass require to enter. But that's pretty much it. From ABC hotel to MacArthur this whole strip 83 days and counting. I don't see anything changing much towards Night life entertainment and recreational openings Bars Gyms Casinos ect ect till SEPT 1st at earliest if they ever do. Its over here the party is over.Thanks for the legwork. It is possible many girls went to their province. Old freedom to kiss, hug, play and fuck seem to have gone. Even if you find girls it will be more like a mechanical courtship.
Legitimate businessmen the world over do not go into the prostitution business, particularly in a country where prostitution is illegal.........What is a legitimate businessman? Many decades ago I knew this guy who owned a regular bar. Business was not so good so he started having prostitutes in his establishment. Is a bar owner a legitimate businessman? If he turns that bar into a brothel does he automatically cease to be a legitimate businessman?
What is a legitimate businessman? Many decades ago I knew this guy who owned a regular bar. Business was not so good so he started having prostitutes in his establishment. Is a bar owner a legitimate businessman? If he turns that bar into a brothel does he automatically cease to be a legitimate businessman?A small percentage of guys here will always think prostitution is evil. This way they can call the dancers names and pretend they are somehow better than the sex workers they rent. The guy you knew ran a legitimate business to people that have no internal problems w the sex industry. The rest of the population are either ignorant or jealous of the money and fun the sex workers can enjoy. I'm posting to keep my membership active is all. The hypocrites that think we're doing something wrong in this hobby cannot be cured. They've been hardwire brainwashed and will never accept a win win reality.
What is a legitimate businessman? A businessman legally authorized to do the business he is doing in the jurisdiction in which he is doing business.
Member #4794
06-10-20, 04:55
A small percentage of guys here will always think prostitution is evil. Its very evil, dirty, sleazy, ugly, and that's why I love it. If I wanted to go to church I would. That guy is asking if a legitimate business man can turn to illegitimate business and still be called an legitimate business man. The answer here is muddy, if he only promotes "lady's" night as in does not charge for lady's to enter the establishment and offers a free drink or other free and clear incentives and does not profit overtly off the girls as in bar fines and does not offer commissions E. G. Lady drinks. If the bar owner only promotes the bar to be a freelancer hangout and does not take a cut of the actual prostitution, and just turns a blind eye to the illicit activity I would say this to be a gray area but not illegal, I would also say they are well within their licence to do so. If they however take bar fine money and offer commissions for lady drinks and incentives, this would be a breach of his business licence and would then make him illegitimate as he most certainty would not be reporting this on his taxes and promoting an illegal activity, this is what we would refer to as "on the take". If the owner is not "on the take" they are still legitimate. There are ways to stay legitimate it just depends on if they are willing to take steps to do so or if they are actually willing to become illegitimate and take that illegitimate money.
Engine Driver
06-10-20, 07:42
What is a legitimate businessman? Many decades ago I knew this guy who owned a regular bar. Business was not so good so he started having prostitutes in his establishment. Is a bar owner a legitimate businessman? If he turns that bar into a brothel does he automatically cease to be a legitimate businessman?You will know that since time immemorial, the prostitution business has attracted unsavory characters. Kind of like bees to honey. It's a business which deals in large amounts of cash and is easily associated with various ancillary businesses. Narcotics, extortion, immigration rackets, money laundering, human trafficking and gambling go perfectly together with prostitution.
I don't know where you come from, but generally in RWML, it is not a socially acceptable business to be in. Even though it's legal in my country, most brothel owners keep a very low profile.
No point in you defending the indefensible. I'm just stating the bleeding obvious.
Streetlooker
06-10-20, 13:08
Legitimate businessmen the world over do not go into the prostitution business, particularly in a country where prostitution is illegal. Yes, yes, I know. The girls are only Guest Relations Officers and not prostitutes. The bar fine is more correctly an Early Work Release Permit, allowing the Guest Relations Officer to leave work early so that the bar can recover the revenue which she would have generated from drink sales. Hahahahaha. Many gullible Australian and American retirees, who fancied themselves as international hospitality industry tycoons, invested in bars in AC, but quickly went bust. They didn't realize you needed a proper business plan, beyond what they could draw on a wet cocktail napkin. They also didn't realize the connections needed within city hall and the additional monthly expenses to be made. Most of the other bars are run by international crime syndicates with the full connivance of the police. You all know what the main game is.
In the old days, every kid in RWML dreamt of being a photographer for Playboy. Many mongers think they would be living their dream by owning a bar in AC.The days of owning a bar for a westerner ended in 2008 when the raids started for human trafficking. Those raids went on for a few yrs and 2011 they was pretty heavy hitting those bars every few weeks or so at random times. That totally wiped out any desire for a old retired westerner to own a Bar on retirement plan and drink himself to death. About 2012 or so was the start of the Korean invasion and little by little they moved in and took over. We are now at another cross roads to where things will go for Fields ave. I believe casinos are going to be replacing them for Chinese take over and they kickin even the Koreans out of here. . Just my opinion thou nothing more. That BIG shopping mall condo complex on Perimeter is Chinese money. Its a sad time now for AC I think. Think about it how hard would it be to raze that whole 2 blocks of fields of all the bars a week it be gone the whole thing.take a look at freelancer park right now its a parking lot thats what fields could look like in a week with a few Back hoes and bulldozers and a fleet of dumptrucks
Member #4794
06-10-20, 13:58
Think about it how hard would it be to raze that whole 2 blocks of fields of all the bars a week it be gone the whole thing.take a look at freelancer park right now its a parking lot thats what fields could look like in a week with a few Back hoes and bulldozers and a fleet of dumptrucksIndonesia did a big purge across the country of several eye shore hot spots some still remain but there used to be extremely sleazy, in Northern Thailand a few of my hotspots now gone for good, due to generals being toppled and their army ran brothels dried up. China has done alot of red light district extermination across the country as a whole as well. So your right a shift in investment can sway the local government to clean up its act. Having to drive through Clark and the eye sore that is AC all of the SJWs will cringe at the sight of that row of bars. The SJW money is not going to go pouring in Clark unless fields is wiped out, If occupancy declines and there is some legit investor in Clark that wants to clean up fields and make clark an international travel hub that could trigger a major change. Them wanting to make Clark a major airport is going to put pressure on them to get rid of AC, this has been an issue but AC has persevered for whatever reason. Luckily we have other destinations already primed for this in phils but the concentration in AC has been too dense to make any of these other locals viable. AC is just too convenient, 30 min off the plane you could be fucking some nasty hooker, that is hard to beat anywhere in the world. If the monger traffic gets pushed out of AC nightlife is not going to dry up it will just move to a "nicer" location imo. Subic for instance is just missing volume and quality, I would be happy to skip manila if I could get a direct flight into clark from the states and then take a shuttle to subic. Subic is kind of missing something right now but if it picks up it could be a much nicer replacement for AC, may fulfill its destiny and become the pattaya it was meant to be.
A businessman legally authorized to do the business he is doing in the jurisdiction in which he is doing business.So if a man is in the business of selling law books and the law requires him to pay an annual fee to do so and in a particular year he forgets to pay the fee so that he is conducting his business outside of that particular requirement of the law, that man ceases to be a legitimate businessman?
Member #4794
06-10-20, 15:42
So if a man is in the business of selling law books and the law requires him to pay an annual fee to do so and in a particular year he forgets to pay the fee so that he is conducting his business outside of that particular requirement of the law, that man ceases to be a legitimate businessman?No of course not. But if he starts gathering hookers in his book store and starts bar fining said hookers out of his book store and has VIP scantily clad lady "book" readings in the back, guess what he is not any more? You are trying real hard to make this guy out to be legitimate when he turned to selling hookers. Wha? I would pat this guy on the back and would be the first to spend money at his business but in this particular case come on. Of course he made more money when you are not paying taxes and selling a product with higher margins than alcohol, don't need to be a physicist to figure out why he made more money, you would make more money too if you stopped paying taxes. See how legitimate you feel tax evading like wesley snipes. If you disregard the girls the tax evasion alone pegs one as illegitimate.
The days of owning a bar for a westerner ended in 2008 when the raids started for human trafficking. Those raids went on for a few yrs and 2011 they was pretty heavy hitting those bars every few weeks or so at random times. That totally wiped out any desire for a old retired westerner to own a Bar on retirement plan and drink himself to death. About 2012 or so was the start of the Korean invasion and little by little they moved in and took over. We are now at another cross roads to where things will go for Fields ave. I believe casinos are going to be replacing them for Chinese take over and they kickin even the Koreans out of here. . Just my opinion thou nothing more. That BIG shopping mall condo complex on Perimeter is Chinese money. Its a sad time now for AC I think. Think about it how hard would it be to raze that whole 2 blocks of fields of all the bars a week it be gone the whole thing.take a look at freelancer park right now its a parking lot thats what fields could look like in a week with a few Back hoes and bulldozers and a fleet of dumptrucksI feel bad for the many high rise hotel owners. They poured plenty of money into it compared to bars in rundown buildings. Hotels are only catering to men looking for girls exclusively. They might get a golf game in during daytime But their main aim is bars and girls. Many girls made good money but very few stay there long number of years. Girls just do not go there by themselves. They are recruited by mamasans.
Who entice them in the villages. They were told of good life, good money and good living. With the exception of few many just get by with no choice in life. Sooner or later they go back to their village and somehow survive. Drinking and dancing as a way of entertainment unlike western girls is alien to them day in and day out.
Koreans and Chinese have built resorts and casinos outside fields which are going to survive. So will some of the good looking girls they like.
For the rest of the nationalities there is no luck if the bars do not open.
Streetlooker
06-11-20, 07:51
I feel bad for the many high rise hotel owners. They poured plenty of money into it compared to bars in rundown buildings. Hotels are only catering to men looking for girls exclusively. They might get a golf game in during daytime But their main aim is bars and girls. Many girls made good money but very few stay there long number of years. Girls just do not go there by themselves. They are recruited by mamasans.
Who entice them in the villages. They were told of good life, good money and good living. With the exception of few many just get by with no choice in life. Sooner or later they go back to their village and somehow survive. Drinking and dancing as a way of entertainment unlike western girls is alien to them day in and day out.
Koreans and Chinese have built resorts and casinos outside fields which are going to survive. So will some of the good looking girls they like.
For the rest of the nationalities there is no luck if the bars do not open.If you look at how the bars and hotels are currently sitting on fields now You really don't have to touch half of fields. Most of the hotels and restaurant on fields are on one block and the bars on the other block.
Engine Driver
06-11-20, 10:11
If you look at how the bars and hotels are currently sitting on fields now You really don't have to touch half of fields. Most of the hotels and restaurant on fields are on one block and the bars on the other block.The new hotels are being erected to support real businessmen, not mongers searching for BBFSCIP.
Pampanga is a major area for manufacturing, BPO and other businesses. Most investment for manufacturing comes from China, Korea and Japan. The Philippines is also a fan of China's Belt and Road initiatives and Du30 eagerly sells stakes in the country to his Chinese masters.
The new hotels are being erected to support real businessmen, not mongers searching for BBFSCIP.
Pampanga is a major area for manufacturing, BPO and other businesses. Most investment for manufacturing comes from China, Korea and Japan. The Philippines is also a fan of China's Belt and Road initiatives and Du30 eagerly sells stakes in the country to his Chinese masters.Real business men that like to stay in hotels in fields ave. Nice. I want to be that kind of business man.
No of course not. But if he starts gathering hookers in his book store and starts bar fining said hookers out of his book store and has VIP scantily clad lady "book" readings in the back, guess what he is not any more? You are trying real hard to make this guy out to be legitimate when he turned to selling hookers. Wha? I would pat this guy on the back and would be the first to spend money at his business but in this particular case come on. Of course he made more money when you are not paying taxes and selling a product with higher margins than alcohol, don't need to be a physicist to figure out why he made more money, you would make more money too if you stopped paying taxes. See how legitimate you feel tax evading like wesley snipes. If you disregard the girls the tax evasion alone pegs one as illegitimate.Patronizing an illegitimate business is in itself illegitimate. By your own definition your sex life is illegitimate which probably causes you some measure of consternation. I have no such difficulty.
Relax guys. New game app is coming out. Rebuild AC after Covid19. You can play in English, Korean or Chinese. You can just rebuild Fields Ave only if you like. Add a bar. Close a bar. Build a hotel. Demolish a hotel. Bus some girls in.
Advanced players can rebuild Perimeter. Take a stab at Korean Town.
Top level players can redevelop Clark.
You all can be winners!
Real business men that like to stay in hotels in fields ave. Nice. I want to be that kind of business man.Casting aspersions upon 'business meetings' in AC is the same as doubting golf in Pattaya, scuba diving in Phuket or sightseeing in Phnom Penh. 😉.
G.
Real business men that like to stay in hotels in fields ave. Nice. I want to be that kind of business man.It is totally an awesome cover story and one I have used for the past few years.
Accountants are happy as I return with hotel charges half of the Aust rates.
My Aus staff are happy as I bring back cheap alcohol and pictures of the homeless. Of course I make tax deductible donations to suitable charities.
Aust family is happy as the time difference means they say good night about 6:30 pm AC time, leaving me free to roam the bars at night. The 5:30 pm-6:30 pm time slot is also good for family video conferences. Last nights barfine has already cleaned up and house keeping has done the rest.
I do remember one day participating in the 8:30 am morning office meeting, it was 5:30 am in AC at the ABC hotel. I was on the video call and able to view across to the long haired, sleek LBFM that was naked across the bed while the others on the call could only see me and a respectable hotel back drop.
Geez it will be a while before I can do that again.
PP.
So if a man is in the business of selling law books and the law requires him to pay an annual fee to do so and in a particular year he forgets to pay the fee so that he is conducting his business outside of that particular requirement of the law, that man ceases to be a legitimate businessman?Sure.
That's why the police break up underground gambling dens in cities with massive casinos. One business model is legitimate because it's legally authorized, and the other is not.
You can legally open a brothel in Berlin. You just needed the required authorization from the state. Then you'll be a legitimate businessman. But if you don't have the required papers, or if you move your brothel to Sweden, you'll no longer be legitimate.
It's really not hard to understand.
Sure.
That's why the police break up underground gambling dens in cities with massive casinos. One business model is legitimate because it's legally authorized, and the other is not.
You can legally open a brothel in Berlin. You just needed the required authorization from the state. Then you'll be a legitimate businessman. But if you don't have the required papers, or if you move your brothel to Sweden, you'll no longer be legitimate.
It's really not hard to understand.You are confused. Legality and legitimacy are different. Look it up. If a man is in the business of selling law books and the law requires him to pay an annual fee to do so and in a particular year he forgets to pay the fee so that he is conducting his business outside of that particular requirement of the law, that man is a legitimate businessman operating his business illegally.
You are confused. Legality and legitimacy are different. ....I am confused.
It appears that some here are considering selling sexual favours for money as an illegitimate business.
While it technically is an illegal one and that many people in society consider it immoral and illegitimate, I really would have thought that anyone posting here would not see anything wrong with the sex business.
You are confused. Legality and legitimacy are different. Bored are we? 😁.
Bored are we? 😁.I do the boring, I was not aware that any poontang was getting bored in Angeles city.
Mr Enternational
06-13-20, 06:24
I am confused.
It appears that some here are considering selling sexual favours for money as an illegitimate business.
While it technically is an illegal one and that many people in society consider it immoral and illegitimate, I really would have thought that anyone posting here would not see anything wrong with the sex business.This is where a dictionary comes in handy. Illegal and illegitimate are synonyms and mean the same thing, no matter what some who are always trying to stir up shit have told you.
See that "leg" root in both words? It is from the Latin word legalis, which means having to do with the law. So how we individually feel about the sex business has nothing to do with its legality or legitimacy. It is only legitimate when it is legal. I hope this clears up the confusion.
PedroMorales
06-13-20, 07:44
This is where a dictionary comes in handy. Illegal and illegitimate are synonyms and mean the same thing, no matter what some who are always trying to stir up shit have told you.
See that "leg" root in both words? It is from the Latin word legalis, which means having to do with the law. So how we individually feel about the sex business has nothing to do with its legality or legitimacy. It is only legitimate when it is legal. I hope this clears up the confusion.http://ilovesteno.com/2014/02/20/legal-vocabulary-illegal-vs-illegitimate-vs-illicit-vs-unlawful/
While I was at it,. I looked up.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/do-burglars-burgle-or-burglarize
American English seeps in everywhere and let's not go on about the silly Australians and their sillier dictionary.
More to the point, I got a spoofer / chancer / Walter Mitty type on locanto, who was fishing / phishing for some reason. Attractive ad, no phone number and no contact during the whole 24 hours before contact time. Locanto is good that way as it gives two havy ticks if the message has been read. My last one was not.
Authorities provided.
Dictionary.com: "A synonym is a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close."
Legal and legitimate are nearly the same but not exactly the same.
Merriam-Webster: "Some common synonyms of legitimate are lawful, legal, and licit. While all these words mean "being in accordance with law. Legitimate may apply to a legal right or status but also, in extended use, to a right or status supported by tradition, custom, or accepted standards."
In many countries there are traditions, customs and standards that are not supported by the law.
Therefore, there can be instances of practices that are legitimate but not legal.
A girl I know who is currently in angeles just told me today that walking street will be opening up next week. She indirectly knows the owner of one of the bars. I was quite suprised considering the airports are still closed to foreigners. Good hunting to those still in Angeles!
A girl I know who is currently in angeles just told me today that walking street will be opening up next week. She indirectly knows the owner of one of the bars. I was quite suprised considering the airports are still closed to foreigners. Good hunting to those still in Angeles!I heard exactly the same about Pattaya! Nightwish group give lot of bribes to the police to make them try to open Monday! But they'll not make money with thai people! Thai people don't go in bars or gogos! They don't have money to fuck thai ladies. So I think it's stupid to open, because right now nobody in the world can land in Thailand! Even Chinese, Jansen and Malaysian can't go Thailand right now!
A girl I know who is currently in angeles just told me today that walking street will be opening up next week. She indirectly knows the owner of one of the bars. I was quite suprised considering the airports are still closed to foreigners. Good hunting to those still in Angeles!Great legit news!
The mastermindbating here will hopefully cum to a finish soon.
I was quite suprised considering the airports are still closed to foreigners. Good hunting to those still in Angeles!I thought all international flights had been redirected from NAIA to Clark and it, Clark, remained open??
Of course this is an academic discussion for most until Tourist Visas restart and donor countries let mongers leave.
Enjoy. G.
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