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If ladyboys are your thing then they are abundant here, I was sitting at envy few days ago seen this big ol biker looking dude walking around with 2 of those ladyboys hanging on him / I don't understand it. The gay lifestyle is confusing to me. BUT he seemed to be happy. Some like to say that going with ladyboys is not gay. I don't know about that.I've lost count of the number of times I've been out with buddies and a guy has "accidently" picked up a LB. . . For the fourth time that week. 😁.
Cheers. G.
If ladyboys are your thing then they are abundant here, I was sitting at envy few days ago seen this big ol biker looking dude walking around with 2 of those ladyboys hanging on him / I don't understand it. The gay lifestyle is confusing to me. BUT he seemed to be happy. Some like to say that going with ladyboys is not gay. I don't know about that.If you're the pitcher and not the catcher, then it's not gay! 😉.
Member #4698
09-09-20, 03:40
If you're the pitcher and not the catcher, then it's not gay! Although it is a given that the majority of Asian LB's prefer to be bottoms, not tops and are not sexually into girls or other LB's unless they are paid to be, most pre-op LB's will admit that they are not girls. The Japanese have a term for it: Newhalf. Furthermore, most guys that frequently have sex with pre op LB's suck cock. So you can call it whatever you want, but it is not exactly straight sex.
Amigo. Was it WestCoast that said move your boat? Some of that was painful to read. With all due respect, why would you stay in that city more than one more night? Just move. ......Good advice in normal times however there are still travel restrictions and you may need a new quarantine pass, which some places may not issue to a new comer.
Since this is the Philippines the rules will change daily or depending on who you are talking to at the moment.
Wicked Roger
09-09-20, 05:34
I've lost count of the number of times I've been out with buddies and a guy has "accidently" picked up a LB. . . For the fourth time that week. 😁.
Cheers. G.I would enjoy sitting at my 'office' in Ayala (Cebu. But story is relevant) and watching guys meet a 'hot' date, and say to friends or bet with them how long before he realized she was a he / LB. Sometimes took 10 ins (maximum) but some never reappeared! Once asked one of my cuties if the guy with the 'girl' knew she was a he. She said 'no and don't tell him please as he like anal sex' (well so did he / she LOL).
Another well know monger on this board prided himself in spotting a LB easily until one day he did not spot it 2 times in the same day. I was with him and have let him forget it. He did return pronto once her realized though LOL.
If ladyboys are your thing then they are abundant here, I was sitting at envy few days ago seen this big ol biker looking dude walking around with 2 of those ladyboys hanging on him / I don't understand it. The gay lifestyle is confusing to me. BUT he seemed to be happy. Some like to say that going with ladyboys is not gay. I don't know about that.Theoretically it is possible to go with a ladyboy and not be gay. Lets say you are into anal and see a ladyboy unknown to you and hit the room and go straight into anal and release, then wash up without checking the front then you are not gay and as far as you're concerned you had anal with a lady.
Albert9989
09-09-20, 15:40
Theoretically it is possible to go with a ladyboy and not be gay. Lets say you are into anal and see a ladyboy unknown to you and hit the room and go straight into anal and release, then wash up without checking the front then you are not gay and as far as you're concerned you had anal with a lady.Interesting debate, theoretically yes. Perhaps. But having anal sex without watching front or at least touching. Seems to be a high urgency situation, very very high urgency.
Chocha Monger
09-09-20, 22:01
Interesting debate, theoretically yes. Perhaps. But having anal sex without watching front or at least touching. Seems to be a high urgency situation, very very high urgency.Unless, of course, the ladyboy is the top and the monger is the bottom.
Is a monger gay if he roots a hermaphrodite and sees both organs?
Chocha Monger
09-09-20, 22:07
That was some funny shit. That gay guy will foist all his tranny friends on you and you'll have a bunch of ladyboys banging on your door day and night.Yes. They will chase all the girls away and lay siege to his room until he agrees to try them.
Sometimes took 10 ins (maximum) but some never reappeared! I think I would know well before they got 10 inches in.
Streetlooker
09-10-20, 05:44
If you're the pitcher and not the catcher, then it's not gay! 😉.I believe if its got a dick or use to its gay. Different opinions depending on who you ask I guess.
Streetlooker
09-10-20, 05:51
Theoretically it is possible to go with a ladyboy and not be gay. Lets say you are into anal and see a ladyboy unknown to you and hit the room and go straight into anal and release, then wash up without checking the front then you are not gay and as far as you're concerned you had anal with a lady.Hanging out with and partying with them is NOT gay or watching a transvestite show also Not gay. Once it gets sexual It is gay But Just my my opinion.
Mr Enternational
09-10-20, 06:13
I believe if its got a dick or use to its gay. Different opinions depending on who you ask I guess.Opinions? Definitions exist so we do not have to worry about considering opinions when discussing something. Gay is having sexual relations with someone of the same gender. Don't matter if they have long hair and makeup. Don't matter if they have a lunch lady outfit on. If they have XY chromosome and you have XY chromosome and you have sexual relations with them then that is called gay. If you are working with wood (pun intended) then you are doing some carpenter shit. If you are fucking another dude then you are doing some gay shit.
Wicked Roger
09-10-20, 06:27
I think I would know well before they got 10 inches in.LOL.
And minutes / minutes also BrizLad.
Unless, of course, the ladyboy is the top and the monger is the bottom.............You think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c.
Gay is having sexual relations with someone of the same gender. Don't matter if they have long hair and makeup. Don't matter if they have a lunch lady outfit on. If they have XY chromosome and you have XY chromosome and you have sexual relations with them then that is called gay. If you are fucking another dude then you are doing some gay shit.I don't know E in my opinion gay is Having an attraction for the same sex. It doesn't matter if you're pitching or hitting. It's not the act but the reason for the act.
I know dudes who were sexually assaulted when they were younger. They got older and they spoke out because they felt that shit was wrong. They were taken advantage of by men who prefer men. A few guys who were took an advantage of continued to be attracted to men. Most went on to live heterosexual lives because they have no desire to be with men. IMHO These men are not gay.
I know dudes who were sexually assaulted when they were younger.A common misconception: sexual assault is NOT about the Sex. And It's not consensual. The perpetrators of these crimes "get off" on the Violence aspect of it. Of Forcing someone to do something against their will, through coercion, force or threat of bodily harm or death.
Friends in AC tell me: Centauro reopened as Carousel, a resto-bar. It was closed almost immediately. Someone narced to City hall about no social distancing, exceeded allowed capacity and lighting issues: MGCQ Violations. (modified general community quarantine.) Baccara, the old Bunker, also reopened as a resto-Bar. The gogo girls have been repurposed as waitresses, (barfineable.) Some other Perimeter bars have also changed into resto-bars. Also Wolfpack barfine is now 1500 php to the bar plus negotiated amount to the lady. Welcome to the New Normal.
A common misconception: sexual assault is NOT about the Sex. And It's not consensual. The perpetrators of these crimes "get off" on the Violence aspect of it. Of Forcing someone to do something against their will, through coercion, force or threat of bodily harm or death.This is every feminist favorite motto. They hate sex so it's not about gratification it's about power. Rape is about power and so is prostitution. All of the above is equally about ejaculation but the Fems don't want to say that.
When the Fems outlawed P4P in the USA just after they got the vote in 1919 is when the, "it's about power" theme began.
So all the mongers getting on planes headed to freer lands where P4P is not legal but acceptable human behavior are going for the power. Yeah, uh-huh.
Guys need to breathe, eat, drink, sleep, think and fuck. The fems don't think we need the last one, as if they could possibly know what it is to be a man.
So, I disagree w the "it's about power" motto. I had to say something. Back into the woodwork for me. And cheers.
Also Wolfpack barfine is now 1500 php to the bar plus negotiated amount to the lady. Welcome to the New Normal.What's the girls' expectation? Is it just a true tip of a couple of hundred or is it a full service fee of a few? It's the direct negotiation method that killed Subic.
Cheers. G.
Soapy Smith
09-12-20, 11:24
A common misconception: sexual assault is NOT about the Sex. And It's not consensual. The perpetrators of these crimes "get off" on the Violence aspect of it. Of Forcing someone to do something against their will, through coercion, force or threat of bodily harm or death.In a past life I worked for a while in sex offender therapy. In my experience, some, but not all sexual assault is about power. Some sex offenders are actually quite pitiful.
This is every feminist favorite motto. They hate sex so it's not about gratification it's about power.
(snip)
When the Fems outlawed P4P in the USA just after they got the vote in 1919 is when the, "it's about power" theme began.
(snip)
Guys need to breathe, eat, drink, sleep, think and fuck. The fems don't think we need the last one, as if they could possibly know what it is to be a man.To suggest that all feminists claim that "sexual assault is power" suggests that feminism is monolithic. I'm pretty sure it's not. There are some notable fissures in feminist ideology. True, some are down on heterosexuality, but for many decades there have been numerous others who refer to themselves as "sex positive feminists. " They like sex, but most of them are focused on how to have better sex, experiencing orgasms, teaching their partners what feels good to them, and so on. One woman named Betty Dodson, now in her nineties, has been giving sex workshops for five or six decades. She and her followers consider themselves "sex positive feminists. " She is definitely not alone in this view. Check out Dodson's website:
https://dodsonandross.com/
I'm pretty sure prostitution was not eliminated shortly after women got the right to vote. My father, no longer alive, sometimes explained to me about readily available brothels during the thirties and forties. A quick read through any city or state in the USASexGuide makes it clear that prostitution is alive and well in the states. To the extent that many municipalities crack down on sex workers, I suspect it's driven much more by the religious right than by feminists.
To suggest that all feminists claim that "sexual assault is power" suggests that feminism is monolithic. I'm pretty sure it's not. There are some notable fissures in feminist ideology. True, some are down on heterosexuality, but for many decades there have been numerous others who refer to themselves as "sex positive feminists. " They like sex, but most of them are focused on how to have better sex, experiencing orgasms, teaching their partners what feels good to them, and so on. One woman named Betty Dodson, now in her nineties, has been giving sex workshops for five or six decades. She and her followers consider themselves "sex positive feminists. " She is definitely not alone in this view. Check out Dodson's website:
https://dodsonandross.com/
I'm pretty sure prostitution was not eliminated shortly after women got the right to vote. My father, no longer alive, sometimes explained to me about readily available brothels during the thirties and forties. A quick read through any city or state in the USASexGuide makes it clear that prostitution is alive and well in the states. To the extent that many municipalities crack down on sex workers, I suspect it's driven much more by the religious right than by feminists.I guess it's not so bad to be off topic since the bug has shutdown AC. I misspoke when I said, "every feminist" but guys know what I mean. Is the me-too movement not angry fems trying to influence and steer western society into a "sex is bad" mentality? It seems so to me. Western males have to watch their every utterance in order to not offend. Lets face it. The USA is going to shit under women's rule and those women are feminist. The bad feminist easily outnumber the good feminist.
I don't believe rape is a 100% about power. Almost everything in life is about power. If there were US brothels available to men (like in Latin America or Asia) there would be much less raping.
And I will tell all of you this. I've had a front row view of the 3rd gender's rise to power living in San Francisco and in that time they almost destroyed the Catholic Church. They have almost destroyed the Boy Scouts of America (bankrupted them) and they will soon be doing their thing in the public schools. So the pool of potential rape victims will double in size soon. It's probably already happening. The 12 year old bully doesn't want your lunch money, he wants something else. The me-too movement will love this scenario. I fight against it. Growing up has always been hard enough. All the best and thanks for your insight.
Also Wolfpack barfine is now 1500 php to the bar plus negotiated amount to the lady. Welcome to the New Normal.Prices have also risen in the west, at least in my home town. I was expecting things to drop a bit but it seems sex still sells.
Mr Enternational
09-14-20, 01:33
If there were US brothels available to men (like in Latin America or Asia) there would be much less raping.But there would be more killing. For some reason Americans go crazy when another guy is fucking "their girl. ".
MarquisdeSade1
09-14-20, 06:03
But there would be more killing. For some reason Americans go crazy when another guy is fucking "their girl. ".https://www.tmz.com/2019/11/04/kellen-winslow-guilty-plea-rape-trial-san-diego-chargers-tight-end/
This dude was 10 minutes away from Hong Kong one of the biggest busiest brothels in the world.
But there would be more killing. For some reason Americans go crazy when another guy is fucking "their girl. ".It happens more in Asia IMO. Latin America does it right w the esposo keeping the fat wife for cooking and child rearing and mistresses for pleasure.
Soapy Smith
09-14-20, 06:21
But there would be more killing. For some reason Americans go crazy when another guy is fucking "their girl. ".Of course. All the evidence we need can be found in "western" movies in which one cowboy shoots another who takes his favorite prostitute upstairs to one of the rooms in the brothel.
Either that, or you've watched Django too many times.
Also Wolfpack barfine is now 1500 php to the bar plus negotiated amount to the lady. Welcome to the New Normal.Good news for LT lovers. Sort of solve the runner issue.
Mr Enternational
09-14-20, 08:12
Of course. All the evidence we need can be found in "western" movies in which one cowboy shoots another who takes his favorite prostitute upstairs to one of the rooms in the brothel.
Either that, or you've watched Django too many times.Nah. The evidence comes from the strip clubs in Atlanta.
Soapy Smith
09-14-20, 13:12
Nah. The evidence comes from the strip clubs in Atlanta.I googled Atlanta strip club shootings and found a lot of stories, but none of them, including articles about trial convictions, explain the motives. So couldn't these killings be due to drug deals gone bad or gang warfare?
Friends in AC tell me: Centauro reopened as Carousel, a resto-bar. It was closed almost immediately. Someone narced to City hall about no social distancing, exceeded allowed capacity and lighting issues: MGCQ Violations. (modified general community quarantine.) Baccara, the old Bunker, also reopened as a resto-Bar. The gogo girls have been repurposed as waitresses, (barfineable.) Some other Perimeter bars have also changed into resto-bars. Also Wolfpack barfine is now 1500 php to the bar plus negotiated amount to the lady. Welcome to the New Normal.It is common knowledge that city officials read the local bar related message boards, and on the day the bar in question opened, the manager made a post on one of those boards that he figured out a "work around" to the rules on social distancing. It is quite possible that manager got his own bar closed with his on line comments.
I googled Atlanta strip club shootings and found a lot of stories, but none of them, including articles about trial convictions, explain the motives. So couldn't these killings be due to drug deals gone bad or gang warfare?Quite possibly, the vast majority of killings are drug / gang or domestic violence related.
Quite possibly, the vast majority of killings are drug / gang or domestic violence related.Is this comment about Atlanta or Diamond Estates?
Is this comment about Atlanta or Diamond Estates?About killings in general.
According to the FBI website, 11% of killings in the US were stranger on stranger, according to the RCMP in Canada it is 14% so pretty close.
We worry more about stranger danger when the truth is that friends and family are more likely to kill you. (I have read the same statistics about child abuse, more likely a family member than a stranger.).
Streetlooker
09-18-20, 13:53
Dead dead dead. This towns is so boring. The loophole restaurant / Bar conversions just ain't doing it for me. Checked out Brown sugar and baccara both lame NO T backs dancers to look at when drinking your San Mig light and the waitress are not allowed to sit next to you if you buy them a drink they sit across the table 1 meter apart. NO hand touching the girls or flirting no nothing, Girls stay in masks and face shields as much as possible Lame as hell. Not even playing music in those places quite and boring EWR are 3500 each but that's pretty steep IMO for ave looking girls. Freelancers Nothing out worth fucking even for free. Plenty of VVV's (Vermin Viagra Vendors) out selling boner meds. But nothing to stick your boner in. I love my 2 regular girls on call BUT I want a to get back to a party again. Mid 2021 is what they say now BUT frankly I think its gone forever here. I wish I was in Pattaya now to be honest. The party is still happening there I hear. THE girls on soi 6 ready to go in bar party. I might be heading there soon fuck it This place is just lame.
Mr Enternational
09-18-20, 14:25
I wish I was in Pattaya now to be honest. The party is still happening there I hear.Damn right it is. I am on my way to one right now.
MacGyver22
09-22-20, 16:54
I know a big draw of AC is the true GFE with BBFS as part of that. With AC shut down for the foreseeable future (hopefully it comes back), where are some other alternatives for this kind of experience?
I know a big draw of AC is the true GFE with BBFS as part of that. With AC shut down for the foreseeable future (hopefully it comes back), where are some other alternatives for this kind of experience?GFE can be had in many places. BBFS is hard to find these days. Some in Thailand allow for extra fee. Most other places very difficult. If the girl likes you or drunk may allow.
In general most Philippine girls allow BBFS irrespective of from AC bars or from dating sites. Before Covid I have had BBFS from almost always from Philippine, most often in Thailand, some from DR, rarely from Costa Rica, very rarely from Cambodia, couple of girlfriends in China Most other countries covered only.
I know a big draw of AC is the true GFE with BBFS as part of that. With AC shut down for the foreseeable future (hopefully it comes back), where are some other alternatives for this kind of experience?The sugar dating scene seems to progress to BBFS after 1-2 meetings.
To be fair to the working girls, the really professional girls really do need to be using protection.
GFE can be had in many places. BBFS is hard to find these days. Some in Thailand allow for extra fee. Most other places very difficult. If the girl likes you or drunk may allow.
In general most Philippine girls allow BBFS irrespective of from AC bars or from dating sites. Before Covid I have had BBFS from almost always from Philippine, most often in Thailand, some from DR, rarely from Costa Rica, very rarely from Cambodia, couple of girlfriends in China Most other countries covered only.I'm in Pattaya and I go often to Cambodia and I can say you that all the girls I fuck allow BBFS. Just a few girls ask me extra fee. Usually I give them 500/1000 more! I love to fuck in Soi 6 or Soi LK in Pattaya.
And in PP in Cambodia, any bars on street 136 or near.
The sugar dating scene seems to progress to BBFS after 1-2 meetings.
To be fair to the working girls, the really professional girls really do need to be using protection.Condoms are only for sailors and gays.
CenTexCrash
09-25-20, 03:14
GFE can be had in many places. BBFS is hard to find these days. Some in Thailand allow for extra fee. Most other places very difficult. If the girl likes you or drunk may allow.
In general most Philippine girls allow BBFS irrespective of from AC bars or from dating sites. Before Covid I have had BBFS from almost always from Philippine, most often in Thailand, some from DR, rarely from Costa Rica, very rarely from Cambodia, couple of girlfriends in China Most other countries covered only.Getting away from my known haunts of Mexico and Athens, I've had BBFS with.
-a ONS with a civilian clubbing in HiSo available for over night.
-a Manila Burgos massage, but only after I told her what I wanted. Very mechanical. And her co worker rifled my clothes and helped herself to 3000 p cash in one pant pocket.
-a brothel girl in Buenos Aires where all WGs are from Paraguay. Official Latin American policy is condoms for poking, by I had enough charm and maneuvers to slide in after BBBJ, she was hesitant at first but decided I wasn't too threatening and she probably didn't feel like arguing in Spanglish so she just let me do my raw xp. I guess I got lucky.
WestCoast1
09-25-20, 05:20
Getting away from my known haunts of Mexico and Athens, I've had BBFS with.Mexico / Central America are the worst for condoms. Trying to get a first-time girl to BB is near impossible, you will need to be one of her trusted regulars and you are willing to cough up extra. Have had regulars request from +20% to +100% more for it, and refuse if I wouldn't agree to it in advance. Ditto for pics. Once went down the line in the Zona alley, got the same answers from nearly a dozen girls in a row: How much sweetie? "Twenty minutes twenty dollars". How much for 60 minutes? "Sesenta" ($60, $1 per minute was common at the time). Sin (without) condom? "No!" You allow pics? "Hahaha loco. Move on". With the last girl I asked, she gave the same answers except the pics question: "Yes pics. But no sexo. Naked pics and 20 minutes. Two hundred US dollars".
No big mystery that I find Phils a considerably better place. Regarding the BB thing, I don't recommend that anyone follow in my footsteps (d*ck-steps).
Soapy Smith
09-25-20, 05:35
Condoms are only for sailors and gays.WC not withstanding--and he too has commented on the wisdom of BB--I'm pretty sure there are numerous mongers in the Phils forum that use condoms, and they're neither of these categories. I think your classification system may be incomplete.
Mexico /
No big mystery that I find Phils a considerably better place. Regarding the BB thing, I don't recommend that anyone follow in my footsteps (d*ck-steps).I believe it is the catholic religion which forbids anything artificial and encourages procreations. Yet to see anybody insisting on condom in Philippines. During HIV scare long time I insisted covered. Girls had a puzzled look to mean ' I am not a prostitute' although they work in bars fuck for money day in and day out. For them they think it is insulting to think of them of not clean. Even I mentioned stinky pussy they just ignored me. Just do not want to believe there are STD. Surprisingly there were very low cases of HIV compared to Thailand.
Some young girls are scared of getting pregnant and they half heartedly mention condom. But getting into the act they have completely forgotten about it and later insist on you cum outside as if it prevents pregnancy.
Never mention condom with normal girls in Philippines. They will have an argument with you.
Wicked Roger
09-25-20, 22:32
WC not withstanding--and he too has commented on the wisdom of BB--I'm pretty sure there are numerous mongers in the Phils forum that use condoms, and they're neither of these categories. I think your classification system may be incomplete.You forget to assume Soapy that SubComm may know this because he is in one of the 2 categories himself?
LOL.
Soapy Smith
09-25-20, 22:44
Never mention condom with normal girls in Philippines. They will have an argument with you.It depends what you mean by "normal girls. " Studies have shown that Catholic Filipino families that are more well to do have fewer kids than poor Catholic families. Possible explanations: women in more well to do families have more formal education, including information about contraception, and they feel more empowered to ignore Catholic doctrine on contraception. Studies across many developing countries show that women's education is the strongest predictor of lower fertility rates.
Okay, it's also possible that poor Filipinos have more sex.
A year or two ago somebody posted a link to a public television documentary about a hospital in Manila City that births more babies than any other hospital in the Philippines, especially for poor women. Before discharging the women the nurses tried mightily to convince the women to undergo tubal ligation or, at least, to accept an IUD. A few did, but many others would not, arguing either that their husbands or mothers insisted that they not agree to birth control or sterilization.
The point is that well to do Catholic women appear to be more accepting of contraception than poor women. If education and income enter into the question of who is a "normal girl," we should expect that many might be accepting of condoms and contraception more generally. Of course, they could also be good girls who think they should remain virgins until marriage.
Roll Aides
09-26-20, 03:31
Been here in the Philippines nine years. Not Angeles, Western Visayas, so YMMV. In that time I have seen condom usage amongst pros go from zero, to the point where in I've had girls nope out of the short time hotel rather than fuck without condom.
It's gone from being, enthusiastic bareback, in fact offense is taken otherwise; to assumed to be the customer's option; to the girl makes a fuss about it but complies grudgingly; to the girl will outright walk without being paid rather than do bareback.
At least here. I never go to Angeles so IDK about that, but that has been my experience.
RainmanSahut
09-26-20, 04:37
Just like VietNam, You can bet your bottom dollar the girls and the PI have turned condoms into a money making business.
Bring your own or ride them Hard Cowboy, Bareback for Sure!
Read below story.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/asia/vietnam-condom-sold-new-scli-intl/index.html
Rainman.
Been here in the Philippines nine years. Not Angeles, Western Visayas, so YMMV. In that time I have seen condom usage amongst pros go from zero, to the point where in I've had girls nope out of the short time hotel rather than fuck without condom.
It's gone from being, enthusiastic bareback, in fact offense is taken otherwise; to assumed to be the customer's option; to the girl makes a fuss about it but complies grudgingly; to the girl will outright walk without being paid rather than do bareback.
At least here. I never go to Angeles so IDK about that, but that has been my experience.
Member #4794
09-28-20, 05:15
It's gone from being, enthusiastic bareback, in fact offense is taken otherwise; to assumed to be the customer's option; to the girl makes a fuss about it but complies grudgingly; to the girl will outright walk without being paid rather than do bareback.
I notice that the more veteran the bargirl is the more adamant they are about using a condom. Freelancers or non pros most likely will never insist on it. But I have had pros insist on it which is why I tend to try and pick up a non pro before a real barfine if at all possible.
I always carry my own stock of 0. 004 L or XL condoms. The condoms they provide is like fucking a garden glove no heat or anything transfers through the condoms they are like military strength multi use condoms, you could be set of fire and your dick would probably be fine if you use their condoms. The 0. 004 condoms are bearable. I used to use these in Japan when I was in Japan, just make sure you find L or XL, the normal sizes are extremely narrow. The length of the normal sizes is fine but the actual length is fine but the narrowness scrunches up my dick something awful. Its even worst when I'm hopped up on Cialis. I haven't tried 0. 001 in a while condoms because I think they are made out of this plastic bag like material that is not as pleasant to use but maybe they have made some improvements to them since I last tried them. I saw some new brand called Aoni that are 0. 001 on amazon stating they are the worlds leading 0. 001 brand. Might give them a try on my next trip whenever that is. That being said I always have my own supply just in case.
There may or may not be methods I may or may not have employed to get around the condom use. All of them require you to be a magician, seasoned and a scumbag so I wouldn't advise it but there are ways to start sex with a condom on and finish with it off you just need to be a monger dark arts practitioner.
I notice that the more veteran the bargirl is the more adamant they are about using a condom. Freelancers or non pros most likely will never insist on it. But I have had pros insist on it which is why I tend to try and pick up a non pro before a real barfine if at all possible.You've one a lot of research on condoms. For the veteran bargirl they need to be using condoms. It's just statistics. If 1 in ten men have an STI and they are fucking 30 guys a month then they are getting exposed. Multiple x 12 months. The genuine innocent girl pickup might only see 1-2 cocks a month so he exposure is less.
I notice that the more veteran the bargirl is the more adamant they are about using a condom. Freelancers or non pros most likely will never insist on it. But I have had pros insist on it which is why I tend to try and pick up a non pro before a real barfine if at all possible.
I always carry my own stock of 0. 004 L or XL condoms. The condoms they provide is like fucking a garden glove no heat or anything transfers through the condoms they are like military strength multi use condoms, you could be set of fire and your dick would probably be fine if you use their condoms. The 0. 004 condoms are bearable. I used to use these in Japan when I was in Japan, just make sure you find L or XL, the normal sizes are extremely narrow. The length of the normal sizes is fine but the actual length is fine but the narrowness scrunches up my dick something awful. Its even worst when I'm hopped up on Cialis. I haven't tried 0. 001 in a while condoms because I think they are made out of this plastic bag like material that is not as pleasant to use but maybe they have made some improvements to them since I last tried them. I saw some new brand called Aoni that are 0. 001 on amazon stating they are the worlds leading 0. 001 brand. Might give them a try on my next trip whenever that is. That being said I always have my own supply just in case.
There may or may not be methods I may or may not have employed to get around the condom use. All of them require you to be a magician, seasoned and a scumbag so I wouldn't advise it but there are ways to start sex with a condom on and finish with it off you just need to be a monger dark arts practitioner.Regarding the superthin condoms, you should see if you can get your hands on Okamoto 001 or Sagami Original 001. They're sold in Japan and online resellers at a premium, so expect to pay about $1.50/ condom, if not more. But Jesus they are pretty godly with simulating the heat and texture of bareback. Just make sure you use lube on the outside and add a drop on the inside.
Fastpiston
10-04-20, 13:37
Regarding the superthin condoms, you should see if you can get your hands on Okamoto 001 or Sagami Original 001. They're sold in Japan and online resellers at a premium, so expect to pay about $1.50/ condom, if not more. But Jesus they are pretty godly with simulating the heat and texture of bareback. Just make sure you use lube on the outside and add a drop on the inside.I have used Okamoto for years and they are terrific.
The alternative seem so thick.
On bars in Angeles, looks like the new world will mean those surviving will be opening up as Phillies type served food outlets with TV sports. Hardly worth paying to travel to Angeles and paying hotel costs just for that.
Unless of course some of them gets a Michelin rating for haute cuisine!!
I have used Okamoto for years and they are terrific.
The alternative seem so thick.
On bars in Angeles, looks like the new world will mean those surviving will be opening up as Phillies type served food outlets with TV sports. Hardly worth paying to travel to Angeles and paying hotel costs just for that.
Unless of course some of them gets a Michelin rating for haute cuisine!!I thought Bunny Burger already had one star.
Warning: Non Condom related.
Trusted AC friend says some bars are open now. Even saw some girls working in them. Atlantis was open and then shut down due to too many people and lack of social distancing. FYI. Atlantis did not convert to resto look to open.
Streetlooker
10-12-20, 01:04
OK many folks might want a update on the happenings of fields so here you go. Lollypop, Angelwitch (The Old Voodoo) Shooters, Club XS, Baccara, and Giant bar (Across from Paradise old Berettos) are currently open on fields as sportsbars. Girls are in shorts and Sports jerseys and sit or stand around the bar. The bar can only be at 30% capacity staff and customers so the girls rotate from the floor to the back back every so often. Each bar might have 10 to 12 girls on the floor at one time BUT they are pretty much just sitting there and serving drinks. IF you care to buy a girls drink they will sit with you but Must maintain a 1 meter distance from you. This was however being broken mostly and the girls were sitting pretty close to those who bought them a drink but no grouping or flirting going on to speak of. XS has a bunch of girls sitting outside on the patio to reduce capacity inside. You can pick a girl from the streets you like and take her in to be your personal waitress. BF are available But they are still expensive with quotes of 3500 to 4000 from several of the girls short time. I pass on that bullshit. The freelancer scene is getting a bit better with some decent girls out and about BUT still mostly dreads running around. The coffee shop next to envy and paradise sports bar seems to be the pickup spot for the lookers out working but they seemed a bit snobbish when I try to stirke up a conversation so maybe they are not even working some of them.
Up on Permeter Candy cafe Det 5 and Night moves, Emotions and TOC, and Mischief are all open. Same set up girls there as waitress available for drinks and take out 2200-2500 there. Over all its pretty lame and boring atmosphere in the bars BUT least there someplace to go now besides sitting in the apartment all day in lockdown. Most the bars are open 2 pm to 10 pm only thou so still no late night life here.
...The coffee shop next to envy and paradise sports bar seems to be the pickup spot for the lookers out working but they seemed a bit snobbish when I try to stirke up a conversation so maybe they are not even working some of them.....Let me guess: said coffee shop has free wifi and girls online to John in Nebraska convincing him of her urgent need for 1000 P.
Money for nothing. That's why they are standoffish.
Thanks for the update. G.
Warning: Non Condom related.
Trusted AC friend says some bars are open now. Even saw some girls working in them. Atlantis was open and then shut down due to too many people and lack of social distancing. FYI. Atlantis did not convert to resto look to open.Thanks for the updates Dg. Welcome positive news from that part of the world are really encouraging.
Alliance1911
10-13-20, 15:17
Regarding the superthin condoms, you should see if you can get your hands on Okamoto 001 or Sagami Original 001. They're sold in Japan and online resellers at a premium, so expect to pay about $1.50/ condom, if not more. But Jesus they are pretty godly with simulating the heat and texture of bareback. Just make sure you use lube on the outside and add a drop on the inside.They are tiny though. I bought a bunch of 001 and I couldn't fit in them. But I only use okamoto now with the mega big boy range. I wanted something thinner but they don't make condoms wide enough. Doesn't make sense.
WestCoast1
10-19-20, 14:39
Enough about condoms. Back to the nawty AC bargirls. This one from a ST bar. More a camera sl*t than just nawty. This was back before we had fancy smart phones with good cameras. I only had a small point / shoot camera. She'd grab it when I was in the shower or doing not much and take a bunch of mirror selfies, or regular selfies by turning it backwards and pointing at herself. Scrolling thru the pics one afternoon after taking her back to her bar, was a shot of her lying on her back, knees pulled back to her shoulders, she'd put the camera below her ass, turned backwards and looking at her ass, taint, pussy, nips and face. Great shot. Who would've thought of that? I would have given p500 just for that one shot, but instead got a bunch of other naked selfies, nawty shots (seen here), and a good session for that price.
One day I asked her why she liked to take so many naked pics. She said something like this: "Well. When I'm naked with camera then I am like a porn girl. When I have a clothes then I am daughter of my momma in province. Like that". Well said sweetie, well said. A wordsmith!
Wonder what happened to the Koreans only girls and their Korean punters.
Member #4667
10-19-20, 22:21
Wonder what happened to the Koreans only girls and their Korean punters.Probably the same place doing the same thing the "exotic" dark skinned chubbies that white western men like. There are also Korean expats and Korean business still in AC, plus there are the same white knights or hanguk knights sending money over as with the white demographic.
Engine Driver
10-19-20, 23:29
Wonder what happened to the Koreans only girls and their Korean punters.The Korean punters probably lost their jobs in the global slowdown. The Korean only girls are now on Alua, Only Fans or VC and are earning $10, $20 or $50 every few minutes from suckers in RWML, just for sending a few nude pics.
Wonder what happened to the Koreans only girls and their Korean punters.According to some here, the K's are still Kock blocking them from the 9's.
Back to the condoms now.
Naked Gunz
10-20-20, 12:35
OK many folks might want a update on the happenings of fields so here you go. Thanks for the intel. Am on the outside looking in for now until the border opens. Guess who bought a condo, and can't even get to the motherfuker now? Yeah, am that guy, smh. [Deleted by Admin]
One nice spinner with perfect fake tits I used to meet you messaged me saying she now will try sites like Onlyfans since the situation is really bad. She still looks awesome; https://onlyfans.com/kathrinec.
Wicked Roger
10-20-20, 23:52
One nice spinner with perfect fake tits I used to meet you messaged me saying she now will try sites like Onlyfans since the situation is really bad. She still looks awesome; https://onlyfans.com/kathrinec.Can you PM more details please as at $5 a sub seems a bargain.
Also as you have been partying in Berlin and asking about parties also maybe share some details. Also on Katherine? Your 5 FRs are lacking details in anything over the last 6 years.
Look forward to the PM as like to swap contacts as I may know her also but not the same name.
WestCoast1
10-22-20, 05:47
Nice pics Roger.
Back to the AC debauchery. You fellas know how I dislike debauchery.
This pair is one of several sets of up to 3 girls (usually 2 at a time) who worked out of the ST bars in the mid-late 2000's. All the girls worked well together. This included both lesbian and non-les action at different times (as specified prior). All the sets of girls were relatively happy and bubbly, both in / out of the bar. Had several occasions to take a girl (s) out for food / drink, or come to me separately with a non-bar girl, and sometimes just hang out (difficult, as they lived in the back of the bar where they worked, usually sleeping when not working, the mama kept an eye on everyone). This was my first learning experience with pinay and tequila. A complete stranger at Kokomo's was extolling the virtues of the drink with the ladies, so I got a cheap bottle and kept it in the room (I rarely drink it), and found that most girls loved to have a shot or three. Two shots into a 100-lb pinay; the stuff tends to lead to uninhibited GFE. Didn't know how good we had it.
Ya those days are gone. Back to the condoms.
WestCoast1
10-28-20, 12:59
Ya those days are gone. Back to the condoms.No new condom reports, so back to the hussies. Another twin-pack from the ST bars. One twiglet and one 5-month buntis. The mind wonders while it wanders.
Actual AC bar report. According to a trusted BG, a perimeter bar opened up as a restaurant now. Hiring girls but the salary is P100 a day plus some commission on drinks. I asked her if the place does barfine and she said no. Too many barangay and police eyes outside watching!
She also stated there were few or no customers.
NapaSlapper
10-31-20, 13:01
Due to Angeles being on lockdown and only the homeless and the rodents frequenting Angeles bar streets I have not posted for several months, things seemed to be taking a turn when I had heard that a few bars were getting ready to reopen, to my dismay some opened then immediately got closed down by the authorities most opened up as sports bars and serving food could it be that there were bar fines on offer too? So out I head to see exactly what's going on well in truth there are only a handful of these sports bars open they all seem to have a few girls but very slim pickings on the looks front the normal array of chubby's uglies and oldies as had been seen in the bars before lockdown, I was curious to know if these girls were barfineable or drinks only girls, from what I could tell these girls are more than willing to sit down and have a lady drink but none of them were willing to barfine not that I would have taken any anyway, while popping between bars I had seen 3 or 4 freelancers but all ladyboys and damn ugly ladyboys at that, in truth I really Fear for Angeles City, how long can 99% of Angeles bars remain closed, I fear that many will never open their doors again, so to sum up for those that are pining to get themselves back to angelic City and into the action I'm here to tell you there is no action for now and maybe not for many months or possibly years to come.
Screaming Beaver
10-31-20, 21:52
Not sure why all the gloom and doom reports relative to AC. Plenty of inventory on the dating app sites. 19 to 20 why / o with no baby damage at 1500 pesos including 2 rounds. The fact that there are no tourists here means the supply far outstrips the demand for beaver. For the guys that are here it's hasn't been this good for years. I hope the shutdown continues so the pussy to pecker ratio stays positive.
NapaSlapper
11-01-20, 01:53
Not sure why all the gloom and doom reports relative to AC. Plenty of inventory on the dating app sites. 19 to 20 why / o with no baby damage at 1500 pesos including 2 rounds. The fact that there are no tourists here means the supply far outstrips the demand for beaver. For the guys that are here it's hasn't been this good for years. I hope the shutdown continues so the pussy to pecker ratio stays positive.Would disagree for punters that are angeles based as all the younger prettier girls left for their parents home villages several thousand miles away some months ago due to no customers in angeles and still had to pay bills in angelee, no bills at home hence why all left, girls will only be back when punters are back.
Fastpiston
11-01-20, 06:57
AC Bars as we knew them will not return. By the time the virus is eventually controlled most businesses (sports bars, restaurants, hotels) will be bankrupt. Nobody is going to travel all the way to Angeles just to sit in a sports bar and eat Angeles food. Walking Street will look like Ermita did after it was forcefully closed down. Walking Street is already looking very similar and it took 20 years plus for Ermita to pull itself out from being a dark, risky squatter land. It is still today a very unattractive place to visit, but was terrific one time.
Even the hopes that Clark will be the new big international Manila airport are eliminated with the decision that the new Manila airport will be built at Sangley Point Manila instead. I am sure most hotels in Angeles had high hopes that the new airport will be a way out.
All so sad, but I was sad about what happened in Ermita, but I was a realist then and even more so now.
WestCoast1
11-01-20, 08:34
The fact that there are no tourists here means the supply far outstrips the demand for beaver. For the guys that are here it's hasn't been this good for years. I hope the shutdown continues so the pussy to pecker ratio stays positive.I can give that a modest thumbs-up. While some girls have turned to selling the cam show, those here have been in dire straights for some months now. There are no more food give-aways from the Brgy, and most folk have little or no income, creating a huge vacuum of foreigners and their money. Local girls here who before Covid had foreign boyfriends (who did or have not yet visit the girl here) sending money have noticed a stoppage of that (the foreigners are out of work or running low on money). They have become more aggressive on social media in private message. Too many choices, not enough time (or stamina).
I can give that a modest thumbs-up. While some girls have turned to selling the cam show, those here have been in dire straights for some months now. There are no more food give-aways from the Brgy, and most folk have little or no income, creating a huge vacuum of foreigners and their money. Local girls here who before Covid had foreign boyfriends (who did or have not yet visit the girl here) sending money have noticed a stoppage of that (the foreigners are out of work or running low on money). They have become more aggressive on social media in private message. Too many choices, not enough time (or stamina).I get a lot of girls in pinalove, and lately DIA. Seems to me that when they open airport to tourists there will still be girls available. When I was in manila (befor I was in pinalov) I was getting girls near robinson and that mall past ambasador hotel, so bars may not be that important anymore.
Even the hopes that Clark will be the new big international Manila airport are eliminated with the decision that the new Manila airport will be built at Sangley Point Manila instead.The airport will be in Bulacan. Sangley is small and more for domestic.
Would disagree for punters that are angeles based as all the younger prettier girls left for their parents home villages several thousand miles away some months ago due to no customers in angeles and still had to pay bills in angelee, no bills at home hence why all left, girls will only be back when punters are back.I'm chatting to a few of those girls that have run home to mum in the province now. Not only seedy bar work has vaporized. No more modeling nor promo work to be seen anywhere so these girls are in the same boat.
A foreigner doesn't need to be in Manila or Cebu to reap the benefits. What I would do to be the only remaining white face Davao, Gensan or CDO right now. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Screaming Beaver
11-01-20, 22:48
Too much attention is being given to how many bargirls may or may not have returned to the province. It doesn't matter. There are a lot of regular girls in town who have lost their jobs and are now selling the only marketable asset they have. No tattoos, no Marlboros hanging out their mouths, no trike driver boy friends and no bad attitudes. These girls last year were working at hotels, restaurants call centers, airline industry etc. . The only comparison I can think of would be what it would have been like shortly after World War II. Unlimited pussy if you are here to enjoy it.
NapaSlapper
11-02-20, 14:46
Too much attention is being given to how many bargirls may or may not have returned to the province. It doesn't matter. There are a lot of regular girls in town who have lost their jobs and are now selling the only marketable asset they have. No tattoos, no Marlboros hanging out their mouths, no trike driver boy friends and no bad attitudes. These girls last year were working at hotels, restaurants call centers, airline industry etc. . The only comparison I can think of would be what it would have been like shortly after World War II. Unlimited pussy if you are here to enjoy it.Wishfully thinking on your part, I own a company in Angeles city with over 100 female staff, all are on full pay, yes some are married some engaged and some in love, none would dream of selling their pussy to whitey for a few dollars, most companies outside the bar area are at full capacity, the girls at SM Mall are the same girls the girls in the pharmacy are the same girls the girls in the restaurants are the same girls as before lockdown, yes all still employed, talk of normal girls selling their pussy is fantasy at best.
..... talk of normal girls selling their pussy is fantasy at best.
I have found normal girls willing to sell pussy when they are in abnormal circumstances. A sudden bill, family emergency etc. Once the sell they will return and find it easier to sell the next time. I am sure that some of them are saying first time selling because they want to believe that themselves, but I have had some that I did believe were selling for the first time.
More common is regular girls who want to find love, Pinas are very willing to give up their pussy for a chance for love. They are always willing to accept "transport money".
Let them have the illusion that they are fucking for love and only accepting transport money or help from a boyfriend. The best regulars I have had, I separated the money from the sex. They would come get fucked and not get any money, later when the rent was due I would send them something to help.
When things run their course, remember that you are dealing with a real person, one who thought or at least pretended for so long that they came to believe, that they were fucking for love. End it like a gentleman.
I have found normal girls willing to sell pussy when they are in abnormal circumstances. A sudden bill, family emergency etc. Once the sell they will return and find it easier to sell the next time.
More common is regular girls who want to find love, Pinas are very willing to give up their pussy for a chance for love.Its also depends on how the girl is treated. Most good girls will balk at a purely transactional experience of being treated like shitt, handed some cash and thrown out the door. Play the game, treat them decently, offer to help her "with the rent" and many, many will play along.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
11-02-20, 23:52
Too much attention is being given to how many bargirls may or may not have returned to the province. It doesn't matter. There are a lot of regular girls in town who have lost their jobs and are now selling the only marketable asset they have. No tattoos, no Marlboros hanging out their mouths, no trike driver boy friends and no bad attitudes. These girls last year were working at hotels, restaurants call centers, airline industry etc. . The only comparison I can think of would be what it would have been like shortly after World War II. Unlimited pussy if you are here to enjoy it.
Wishfully thinking on your part, I own a company in Angeles city with over 100 female staff, all are on full pay, yes some are married some engaged and some in love, none would dream of selling their pussy to whitey for a few dollars, most companies outside the bar area are at full capacity, the girls at SM Mall are the same girls the girls in the pharmacy are the same girls the girls in the restaurants are the same girls as before lockdown, yes all still employed, talk of normal girls selling their pussy is fantasy at best.I would imagine that while SB posted in the Angeles forum, he is not in AC (like me). I can confirm that in my area (not the big city), Covid lockdowns have reduced a bad economy drastically. Brgy have stopped the food give-aways. Many people have shifted income opportunities from normal trabajo to selling small goods or services. They go into the marketplace and use their meager money to purchase face masks (or other), then sell them at a markup in the Brgy (the same way the sari owner buys everything he sells in the sari). These efforts don't make much profit, and the lockdown has turned every family into entrepreneurial enterprises. This lack of income continues to tighten, like a vice grip being slowly turned. All companies here are operating (as per local mandate) at maximum 50% capacity. Previous to Covid, construction guys worked 5-6 days per week. Now they rotate, Monday-Wednesday-Friday, or Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday (I don't know a single construction guy working 5 days).
Another example. Just outside of town there was previously a nut-shelling 'factory', an odd-looking building -- the exterior, interior walls, and roof are just plywood sheets, no windows, no aircon (some oscillating fans), no sign on the building identifying anything. Two dozen ladies worked inside removing nuts from the shell, making p200 for an 8-hour shift (below the technical minimum here, but not uncommon here). A few months ago the factory closed completely, but not the business. The owner disbanded her employees and simply went to their nearby compounds and brought them bags of nuts each day, and offered them p50 for roughly 4-5-6 hours of the same work each day. When some of the original workers balked at the hours / pay arrangement, the owner lady just held up a bag of nuts and asked if anyone else in the compound wanted to make p50 for a days work shelling the nuts. She had no trouble getting neighbors of the original employees to take the work (which of course has set neighbors to be angry with each other). The 'new' employees shell for 4-5 hours at home, then return the freshly shelled nuts to the owner's home each day. No more need for the owner to rent the factory, or pay a 'going daily rate' of p300+.
There are a glut of taxi's here now. They rent the beast at p500 for 12 hours. The drivers are now quick to hand out their phone number and agree in advance to work off the meter for a much lower rate. For instance, several times a week I take a ride that is 15-ish minutes and runs p85-95, roughly. Drivers now agree to take me, wait an hour while I shop (or they take other fares while I am shopping), and then pick me up and return me home for p150. I just txt them an hour in advance and we arrange a time for pickup at my place, and I txt them when I get into the cashier checkout lane for return. They don't get paid until they return me home. I have half a dozen taxi drivers waiting on call for items like this (I still like the jeep). This is the new reality.
I can thumbs-up SB's post. In this province, the squeeze is on. Overseas visiting boyfie's are no longer returning, and no longer remitting (they themselves have lost income due to Covid). The ladies are offering it up. The new system is now also a better referral system. My regulars have friends that are in need, and it turns out the friends have friends in need. Pre-Covid, this was 'not abailable'.
In a later post I would like to describe also several biz successes of some of the locals here (similar to Napa).
More common is regular girls who want to find love, Pinas are very willing to give up their pussy for a chance for love. They are always willing to accept "transport money". When things run their course, remember that you are dealing with a real person, one who thought or at least pretended for so long that they came to believe, that they were fucking for love. End it like a gentleman.Sage advice.
NapaSlapper
11-03-20, 02:09
Thanks for your input westie on the situation outside of Angeles, but let's remember this is the Angeles forum and people posting on this form should be posting about what is happening in Angeles as of now, as far as fucking good girls, who is to tell who is a good girl and who is a bad girl, just because one meets and unemployed girl either online or in the street and she claims that she is just freshly unemployed and used to work for an airline or was a lawyer or a doctor or a nurse or a baker does not make this true, on the same note a girl working in the local shop could well have been a prostitute for multiple years before getting a job in the shop, for these type of girls yes I agree it's possible for them to resell their pussy when funds may be needed, these girls in no way shape or form can be called Good girls or normal girls, they are in fact prostitutes or ex prostitutes, good or normal girls would go to extraordinary lengths not to have to sell their pussy to anyone, hence girls going out and selling face masks or whatever they can for the pure reason of not having to sell their pussy, in summing up there is a huge difference between the type of girl who is willing to sell and the type of girl who refuses regardless of her circumstances.
WestCoast1
11-03-20, 03:00
Some more of my playful ST bar kittens. Yummy.
WestCoast1
11-09-20, 14:26
Morsel: Bar girl, beautiful face, booby creature, tongue longer than my Johnson.
CenTexCrash
11-14-20, 06:43
Got PM'd from a ONS that the shanty town of Tarlac took a direct hit from a hurricane this week. At one point they had no electricity or running water. As easy as Google is, not sure if AC or MNL were impacted.
Hopefully all cleaned up in time for the next volcanic eruption.
Got PM'd from a ONS that the shanty town of Tarlac took a direct hit from a hurricane this week. At one point they had no electricity or running water. As easy as Google is, not sure if AC or MNL were impacted.
Hopefully all cleaned up in time for the next volcanic eruption.I can't comment on specific areas or hookers' houses but yes Manila has been affected. This typhoon season has been worse because they have had several one after another and each has affected a fairly wide area. Typically it's just one typhoon with a fairly limited blast radius.
Its normal for the effects to last days or even weeks especially in the provinces. Typically electricity and major dangerous services are turned off the day before the typhoon hits to limit damage and will not be turned back on again until roads are cleared, debris removed and repairs are finished. Remember that most services there are run above ground and not protected by underground lines so damage can be extensive.
Lots of damage but remember this happens every year.
Cheers. G.
My bargirl friend says people are doing it, but I'm hesitant to try. I think you can fly in from Korea.
Anyone had any luck doing this?
My bargirl friend says people are doing it, but I'm hesitant to try. I think you can fly in from Korea.
Anyone had any luck doing this?Plenty of people are flying into Clark airport but unless you have a visa or are Filipino you will not be allowed into the country. No tourists visas are being issued.
See attached images for entry requirements to PH.
Mr Enternational
12-10-20, 13:30
See attached images for entry requirements to PH.I guess now is the time to claim your bastard children.
I guess now is the time to claim your bastard children.Probably better to wait until after Christmas, LOL. I know 2 people that have left and returned. A major pain in the ass according to the travelers.
Probably better to wait until after Christmas, LOL. I know 2 people that have left and returned. A major pain in the ass according to the travelers.I too know a couple people who have left and are trying to return or have returned.
The major problem is that the requirements are not well known and understood by all. They change often and the revised information does not get to everyone.
Also people will just make up what they think the requirement and then never back down when you show them the written requirements.
I chose to stay put at the start of this and see no reason to change my decision. I am comfortable where I am and will just ride this out to the restrictions are lifted, even if that takes another year.
Wicked Roger
12-12-20, 12:58
I subscribe and read the guy sometimes as he has been in AC years. He posted this map of what is supposed to open and closed in AC.
Some may find it interesting.
https://jimmydhorse.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/AC-map-updated.pdf
Some may find it interesting.
https://jimmydhorse.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/AC-map-updated.pdfThanks for posting. He spends a lot of time on the gossip. I have a question for the forum. What is the story with Niagara Bar?
I used to rendezvous with a freelancer who liked meeting there. The rooms and the place looks pretty cheap. Doesn't ever seem to be an AC bargirl type of bar though.
Thanks for posting. He spends a lot of time on the gossip. I have a question for the forum. What is the story with Niagara Bar?
I used to rendezvous with a freelancer who liked meeting there. The rooms and the place looks pretty cheap. Doesn't ever seem to be an AC bargirl type of bar though.This is mainly a drink bar for a few expat locals. Not a girly bar, not a pick up bar and not a bar tourist visits.
I would imagine that while SB posted in the Angeles forum, he is not in AC (like me). I can confirm that in my area (not the big city), Covid lockdowns have reduced a bad economy drastically. Brgy have stopped the food give-aways. Many people have shifted income opportunities from normal trabajo to selling small goods or services. They go into the marketplace and use their meager money to purchase face masks (or other), then sell them at a markup in the Brgy (the same way the sari owner buys everything he sells in the sari). These efforts don't make much profit, and the lockdown has turned every family into entrepreneurial enterprises. This lack of income continues to tighten, like a vice grip being slowly turned. All companies here are operating (as per local mandate) at maximum 50% capacity. Previous to Covid, construction guys worked 5-6 days per week. Now they rotate, Monday-Wednesday-Friday, or Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday (I don't know a single construction guy working 5 days).
Another example. Just outside of town there was previously a nut-shelling 'factory', an odd-looking building -- the exterior, interior walls, and roof are just plywood sheets, no windows, no aircon (some oscillating fans), no sign on the building identifying anything. Two dozen ladies worked inside removing nuts from the shell, making p200 for an 8-hour shift (below the technical minimum here, but not uncommon here). A few months ago the factory closed completely, but not the business. The owner disbanded her employees and simply went to their nearby compounds and brought them bags of nuts each day, and offered them p50 for roughly 4-5-6 hours of the same work each day. When some of the original workers balked at the hours / pay arrangement, the owner lady just held up a bag of nuts and asked if anyone else in the compound wanted to make p50 for a days work shelling the nuts. She had no trouble getting neighbors of the original employees to take the work (which of course has set neighbors to be angry with each other). The 'new' employees shell for 4-5 hours at home, then return the freshly shelled nuts to the owner's home each day. No more need for the owner to rent the factory, or pay a 'going daily rate' of p300+.
There are a glut of taxi's here now. They rent the beast at p500 for 12 hours. The drivers are now quick to hand out their phone number and agree in advance to work off the meter for a much lower rate. For instance, several times a week I take a ride that is 15-ish minutes and runs p85-95, roughly. Drivers now agree to take me, wait an hour while I shop (or they take other fares while I am shopping), and then pick me up and return me home for p150. I just txt them an hour in advance and we arrange a time for pickup at my place, and I txt them when I get into the cashier checkout lane for return. They don't get paid until they return me home. I have half a dozen taxi drivers waiting on call for items like this (I still like the jeep). This is the new reality.
I can thumbs-up SB's post. In this province, the squeeze is on. Overseas visiting boyfie's are no longer returning, and no longer remitting (they themselves have lost income due to Covid). The ladies are offering it up. The new system is now also a better referral system. My regulars have friends that are in need, and it turns out the friends have friends in need. Pre-Covid, this was 'not abailable'.
In a later post I would like to describe also several biz successes of some of the locals here (similar to Napa).
Sage advice.Thanks WC, great report.
I have to agree with many of the things you pointed out.
I have to add that many of the girls even before Covid hit were in trouble. I've been and stayed in AC for many trips for many years. , most trips lasting about a month. When you stay longer you get to see much more what happens to family life there. While many are reluctant to sell their bodies and will do anything to make a living, the reality is different.
If you have been there long enough you will meet those that refuse but eventually they have no choice but sell themselves simply because the girls have run out of options. Their family can no longer support them, their family runs out of money, no longer able to pay rent, no food and worst of all, no more money to pay for the load data and minutes for the phones.
Most get pregnant early, most don't finish school (not because they are dumb but family can't support the expenses for even HS). Many apply for limited jobs but very few get hire.
It's call desperation to feed themselves, their family and sometimes their babies. Most of us from western countries don't really comprehend what its like with no govt welfare programs to help with even the basic needs (like food and shelter). So yes, desperation to survive will always overcome any moral reluctance.
Case in point. Ive met a bargirl years ago and we became friends. I notice she had a cousin that was cute that she sometimes meet to go home together. We all met a few times for quick meals at the mall. I asked her cousin once if she was willing to spend a night with me. She was shocked and cursed me out. She refused to talked to me afterwards as she called me a bad person. About a year later, i ran into the bargirl friend and she told me her cousin and family were in financial trouble as most of the family no longer had jobs. She asked if I could help her out. I told her I would still only pay her if she was willing to spend the night with me. Again, the answer was No way, and she added she would rather die first. Fast forward 6 months on next trip to AC, I ran into the bargirl friend again and she asked if I wanted her cousin as she was desperate and was now willing to spend the night with me. So yes, desperation can change anyone’s mind.
This is mainly a drink bar for a few expat locals. Not a girly bar, not a pick up bar and not a bar tourist visits.Run down expats and a few LBs (both inside and outside). They sometimes serve a cheap Scandanavian buffet (used to be Sundays if memory serves) which is OK. Go there for the buffet and / or a cheap drink, give the rest a miss.
PedroMorales
12-22-20, 13:39
Run down expats and a few LBs (both inside and outside). They sometimes serve a cheap Scandanavian buffet (used to be Sundays if memory serves) which is OK. Go there for the buffet and / or a cheap drink, give the rest a miss.That seems really depressing.
Anyone know how many hookers / punters are about? I guess the pick pockets are finding it hard. It is all getting increasingly academic to me as, the way things are going in Europe, I doubt I'll ever be back. I do miss the LBFMs and listening to the pathetic ex pats but all good (and bad) things must end. The media have people scared shttless here.
Thanks WC, great report.
I have to agree with many of the things you pointed out.
I have to add that many of the girls even before Covid hit were in trouble. I've been and stayed in AC for many trips for many years. , most trips lasting about a month. When you stay longer you get to see much more what happens to family life there. While many are reluctant to sell their bodies and will do anything to make a living, the reality is different.
If you have been there long enough you will meet those that refuse but eventually they have no choice but sell themselves simply because the girls have run out of options. Their family can no longer support them, their family runs out of money, no longer able to pay rent, no food and worst of all, no more money to pay for the load data and minutes for the phones.
Most get pregnant early, most don't finish school (not because they are dumb but family can't support the expenses for even HS). Many apply for limited jobs but very few get hire.
It's call desperation to feed themselves, their family and sometimes their babies. Most of us from western countries don't really comprehend what its like with no govt welfare programs to help with even the basic needs (like food and shelter). So yes, desperation to survive will always overcome any moral reluctance.
Case in point. Ive met a bargirl years ago and we became friends. I notice she had a cousin that was cute that she sometimes meet to go home together. We all met a few times for quick meals at the mall. I asked her cousin once if she was willing to spend a night with me. She was shocked and cursed me out. She refused to talked to me afterwards as she called me a bad person. About a year later, i ran into the bargirl friend and she told me her cousin and family were in financial trouble as most of the family no longer had jobs. She asked if I could help her out. I told her I would still only pay her if she was willing to spend the night with me. Again, the answer was No way, and she added she would rather die first. Fast forward 6 months on next trip to AC, I ran into the bargirl friend again and she asked if I wanted her cousin as she was desperate and was now willing to spend the night with me. So yes, desperation can change anyones mind.Sad story but mongers are not bleeding hearts.
I have to add that many of the girls even before Covid hit were in trouble. I've been and stayed in AC for many trips for many years. , most trips lasting about a month. When you stay longer you get to see much more what happens to family life there. While many are reluctant to sell their bodies and will do anything to make a living, the reality is different.One advantage for Ph girls is they can got to province and live cheap. I'm going to generalize that many of the financial problems are caused by bad financial decisions. Without the money to make the bad decisions, life can be easier. Pinay without foreigner bfs are not getting asked to support the family as much. One ex-GF her family hates the overseas grandma sending money but now that there are no foreigners BF (s) the grandma support is being accepted.
Sad story but mongers are not bleeding hearts.True.
The ending to that story was I never did get to bang her even after all that time. Not that I didn't want to, but mainly because:
1) Met up almost Last minute on the last night before I was departing.
2) She was asking way above my usual price and won't budge on her price. She's not a virgin (at least that's what she told me) but was asking for premium price as I was her first person she was doing it with for money.
3) Too much drama and I already had someone else in mind for the last night.
So yes, its a say story.
One advantage for Ph girls is they can got to province and live cheap. I'm going to generalize that many of the financial problems are caused by bad financial decisions. Without the money to make the bad decisions, life can be easier. Pinay without foreigner bfs are not getting asked to support the family as much. One ex-GF her family hates the overseas grandma sending money but now that there are no foreigners BF (s) the grandma support is being accepted.Yes, but as I have experienced 1st hand (on several occasions), depending on which family member will take her in and which province she has to travel to is a big obstacle, and sometimes too big of an obstacle to overcome (money wise). Although, travel within the PI seems cheap to us, its relatively expensive for most of them trying to reach a far flung province on another island. So I have ran into a few girls in financial trouble but simply unable to get back home and family in province didn't have enough money to send her for trip.
Ended up "supporting" a few of them while I was in AC or Subic for about a month before I flew home. I always encourage them to save enough money of the money I gave them to get themselves home (with extras to buy things for the family).
By "support" I mean= I hired her as my maid to clean up. And since I always stay at a hotel, cleaning up means. Well, you get the picture.
Cheers.
Roll Aides
12-24-20, 13:02
Well shit, now I actually am sad, before it was just a happy story from the mongers perspective.
True.
The ending to that story was I never did get to bang her even after all that time. Not that I didn't want to, but mainly because:
1) Met up almost Last minute on the last night before I was departing.
2) She was asking way above my usual price and won't budge on her price. She's not a virgin (at least that's what she told me) but was asking for premium price as I was her first person she was doing it with for money.
3) Too much drama and I already had someone else in mind for the last night.
So yes, its a say story.
True.
The ending to that story was I never did get to bang her even after all that time. Not that I didn't want to, but mainly because:
1) Met up almost Last minute on the last night before I was departing.
2) She was asking way above my usual price and won't budge on her price. She's not a virgin (at least that's what she told me) but was asking for premium price as I was her first person she was doing it with for money.
3) Too much drama and I already had someone else in mind for the last night.
So yes, its a say story.Pinay needs 10 k pesos.
Reluctantly decides to fuck a foreigner and get what she needs.
However, foreigner only wants to pay 2 k, maybe 3 k if she sucks and fucks well. Foreigner even offers to meet multiple times at the same rate until Pinay teachers her 10 k target.
Pinay, who needs 10 k, doubles down and insists her first time services. Of which she literally has no clue what it means to be a skilled sex worker, must be worth 10 k pesos. Non negotiable. This exchange goes back and forth for a few hours via text, maybe even a few days.
Foreigner walks away, knowing it's a waste of time and that there are plenty of other options out there for the money he's willing to pay. Pinay wonders why / how she wasn't able to get the 10 k pesos she desperately needs.
In the time said Pinay was trying to hustle for a one time 10 k peso deal, another Pinay has earned 15 k through multiple short time encounters.
True life story. Actually, true multiple times over according to personal experiences.
Mr Enternational
12-25-20, 04:15
In the time said Pinay was trying to hustle for a one time 10 k peso deal, another Pinay has earned 15 k through multiple short time encounters.
True life story. Actually, true multiple times over according to personal experiences.You should have been in the Colombia thread the other day when a guy said he could not understand why a chick would go work at a cheap place when she could go to the foreigner ripoff disco and get 10 times that. You explained it perfectly. Go ahead and starve to death waiting on a big fish.
Right when Manila went into ecq, I matched with a pinay real estate agent on tinder. She was using the app to fish for potential condo buyers (LOL, I know). Totally legit as I checked out the office and everything, which was a few minutes walk from where I was staying at the time.
Fast forward a week and I get desperate messages from her asking to borrow 25 k pesos. Naturally, the monger in me told her it would take her a month of 3-4 weekly ST meetings to get this from me, which she would have earned and wouldn't have had to pay back of course.
Real Estate pinay said under no circumstances would she sleep with me, but she can send me a few condo pics I might be interested in buying, and if I lent her the 25 k pesos she'd pay back with her next salary and that she really needed the money.
I didn't even bother responding. The absurdity of the whole situation was nothing short of astonishing.
Engine Driver
12-25-20, 06:01
Right when Manila went into ecq, I matched with a pinay real estate agent on tinder. She was using the app to fish for potential condo buyers (LOL, I know). Totally legit as I checked out the office and everything, which was a few minutes walk from where I was staying at the time.
Fast forward a week and I get desperate messages from her asking to borrow 25 k pesos. Naturally, the monger in me told her it would take her a month of 3-4 weekly ST meetings to get this from me, which she would have earned and wouldn't have had to pay back of course.
Real Estate pinay said under no circumstances would she sleep with me, but she can send me a few condo pics I might be interested in buying, and if I lent her the 25 k pesos she'd pay back with her next salary and that she really needed the money.
I didn't even bother responding. The absurdity of the whole situation was nothing short of astonishing.Hahaha. Sounds like the same one on PL who tried to sell me a condo. She just wasn't interested in a root. They just think some stupid foreigner is going to buy into some crap condo in Caloocan, or in your case, just let them 'barrow' 25,000 peso. Hahaha.
WestCoast1
12-26-20, 02:42
Seems that I haven't posted anything in a while. A post-Christmas shot from AC. Back in the day when the waitresses would sometimes jump up on the tables and dance.
Well shit, now I actually am sad, before it was just a happy story from the mongers perspective.Yeah, Guess I could've made up some Shit story about how I paid her and she happily spend the night and we did it all, anal, CIM, spanked her ass next morning and she promise to come back and spend next night for free, etc.
But I'm not that kinda guy. Always told it like it is (good or bad).
We are not all Prince Charming in the fairy tales as mongers don't always have happy endings.
Ok, on second thought, monger can always have "Happy endings"- just a matter if we are willing to pay the price for it.
Cheers all and Happy Holidays.
Seems that I haven't posted anything in a while. A post-Christmas shot from AC. Back in the day when the waitresses would sometimes jump up on the tables and dance.I bar fined more waitresses than dancers because of the way they dress, less revealing but more sexy. The best days of AC to me was from around between 2000 to 2010. I haven't been back there for 5 years around the time of the bar raids. It's sad to see AC's demise.
I bar fined more waitresses than dancers because of the way they dress, less revealing but more sexy. The best days of AC to me was from around between 2000 to 2010. I haven't been back there for 5 years around the time of the bar raids. It's sad to see AC's demise.The best days are far behind us now.
The downfall started First with the enforced "human traffic laws" that prevented mamas from recruiting new girls from the provinces.
Followed by the raids.
Then closing of Raymond St and Santos bars.
Korean takeover and changing the behaviors of bargirls.
Bars overcharging.
Bar owners and managers no longer gave a shit about punters getting cheated by the girls.
Now Covid.
The best days of AC to me was from around between 2000 to 2010. True, mine was 2005 to 2011.
True, mine was 2005 to 2011.For me, 1982 -1984. Thanks, Uncle Sam!
SouthEaster
12-27-20, 18:20
For me 1987 to 1992.93-95 wasn't too bad but after Pinatubo eurotrash started showing up in a big way and that was the beginning of the slow demise.
Nice Guy 99
01-27-21, 15:42
A friend of mine is packing up in the province and heading back to AC. She says Xanadu will be open soon and they called her back. I can't see where she has anything to gain about being untruthful about this. Just one data point.
Mr Enternational
01-27-21, 16:04
A friend of mine is packing up in the province and heading back to AC. She says Xanadu will be open soon and they called her back. I can't see where she has anything to gain about being untruthful about this. Just one data point.It is called hope. The same way the massage shops in Pattaya called everyone back because by law they could open. Nevermind there were no tourists that would be customers. Same way my girlfriend keeps running from her hometown to the salon she works in in Pattaya. I ask her why she would keep doing that knowing there are no customers. Waste of time and money to me; but to them there is hope.
A friend of mine is packing up in the province and heading back to AC. Lots of girls are going or have gone back. Very few are turning any tricks but a couple are collecting minimum wage as "waitresses". Due to the higher cost of living, all are keen to meet anyone who is or appears to be in town. Some are okish in looks but I haven't noticed any stunners. Those have enough cash and / or sponsors to remain where they are. Many of the girls still in the provinces are waaaay hotter than those back in AC.
Just my observations. I'm not in town.
G.
I took the stroll down WS Saturday night about 9 PM. Very few people, the bars are desperately trying to lure people inside. Didn't go inside of any, Perimeter Road has a few bars open, stopped into Candy Cafe and Night Moves. Both have several girls inside. NM probably has the better quality but both had some decent talent available. 2000 PHP EWR and all seem eager to jump.
PedroMorales
01-28-21, 02:11
I took the stroll down WS Saturday night about 9 PM. Very few people, the bars are desperately trying to lure people inside. Didn't go inside of any, Perimeter Road has a few bars open, stopped into Candy Cafe and Night Moves. Both have several girls inside. NM probably has the better quality but both had some decent talent available. 2000 PHP EWR and all seem eager to jump.Could you expand on this? What ethnic mix of people? Tourists (ha ha) or long stay folk? Any mongers on the prowl? If you did not know what was happening, would you guess it was wall to wall clip joints? Any freelancers? How desperate were they? Many peddlers, beggars etc? Did it look like a tourist place or last chance saloon?
2000 PHP? Not lowering prices?
I am just trying to get a feel for the place. I know some guys here who cannot take the be s any more and are thinking of fleeing to Bali or Pinay land. Rough times.
I am just trying to get a feel for the place. I know some guys here who cannot take the be s any more and are thinking of fleeing to Bali or Pinay land. Rough times.I think everyone is keen to pop their Blueballs ASAP. However, how are your friends achieving this with many countries having exit restrictions and the PI having entry restrictions.
Honest question: do you know of anyone with a concrete and credible plan to get from RWML into PI without a pre-existing residency visa?
Cheers. G.
NapaSlapper
01-29-21, 13:39
For those that are wondering what is happening in Angeles City as of now here goes.
In all honesty Angeles City is a ghost town, they just are no tourists here, many of the old expats have also left town over the last several months, even the Koreans who were numerous just 12 months ago have mostly disappeared, the only girls I see on the streets trying to sell their p* are the homeless, yes a couple of x bars opened up as restaurants, yes they have a few waitresses that might be up for a short time if one can be bothered to put in the time and effort, mostly oldies and fatties, there are no dancing girls in any of Angeles City, nor have I heard of any open establishments offering straight out bar fines, seems to me that it will be a long long time maybe even years if at all till we might see any girls dancing on stages.
For those that are wondering what is happening in Angeles City as of now here goes.
In all honesty Angeles City is a ghost townYou've mentioned before your dislike for online hookups. It may be time to move out of the 16th century and give it a go. Beggars can't be choosers. 😁.
Lots, and I do mean lots, of online girls in AC who are gagging to suck my marshmallow when I 'accidently' report that I'm still trapped in AC.
You correctly reported before that everyone has their own tastes but it's a shame if that's causing you a hundred year drought.
Good luck. G.
Mr Enternational
01-30-21, 13:43
In all honesty Angeles City is a ghost town, they just are no tourists here, many of the old expats have also left town over the last several months, even the Koreans who were numerous just 12 months ago have mostly disappeared, the only girls I see on the streets trying to sell their p* are the homeless,So it is safe to assume that those said to hoar themselves at bars before for survival (baby milk, medicine, food) because they had no other choice are all back home either starving or dead.
NapaSlapper
01-30-21, 15:15
You've mentioned before your dislike for online hookups. It may be time to move out of the 16th century and give it a go. Beggars can't be choosers. 😁.
Lots, and I do mean lots, of online girls in AC who are gagging to suck my marshmallow when I 'accidently' report that I'm still trapped in AC.
You correctly reported before that everyone has their own tastes but it's a shame if that's causing you a hundred year drought.
Good luck. G.Hundred year drought?
Have a steady girlfriend thank so not exactly going without.
Yes your correct that I have previously posted that I am generally not a fan of Angeles online prostitutes, why because of the general low quality and all the fucking around until you get the one in a hundred that actually looks like her online profile photos, or for the girl that one earlier chatted to on cam and made visiting arrangements only for a completely different girl to turn up at the door, usually 10 years older and 50 kg heavier, on the very few occasions the correct girl turned up then yes a good time was had but I stress this was on very few occasions.
On that same note lets be honest for a minute, would most guys travel half way around the world at great expense to sit in their hotel room trying to attract online pros when their own countries are full of usually prettier online pros for similar prices without all the cost and trouble of long travel, even if one only likes pinays then plenty of pinays in every country the world over to fuck.
If it was not for my work in the phills and having to be here for that it would be the last place I would be mongering especially now with most everything closed and very few girls that are even remotely passable in the looks department, of course all power to those that find what's here desirable, rock on I say.
So it is safe to assume that those said to hoar themselves at bars before for survival (baby milk, medicine, food) because they had no other choice are all back home either starving or dead.Sometimes it really surprises me how Philippine girls survive. Loosing jobs is common. Not saving for a rainy day is common. Not having WU support is also common (only comparatively few have sugar daddies). I am sure they are all living. As we all know they do have community support and some government and barangay support for food.
Mr Enternational
01-30-21, 20:15
Sometimes it really surprises me how Philippine girls survive. Loosing jobs is common. Not saving for a rainy day is common. Not having WU support is also common (only comparatively few have sugar daddies). I am sure they are all living. As we all know they do have community support and some government and barangay support for food.I am just hoping mongers realize it now that these places in various monger countries are shut down or on shoestrings. People period survive. They never had to be hookers and were never going to die without you sending them money.
I saw this video report from Walking St in January 2021 It certainly shows how the place is dying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPcbUGgmgv4&ab_channel=PhillyinthePhilippines
Wicked Roger
02-04-21, 04:18
Someone is enjoy pinay pussy in AC but is then arrested as he was making porn. So how many mongers do the same amateur style LOL.
https://philippineslifestyle.com/american-3-pinays-arrested-porn-video/
Someone is enjoy pinay pussy in AC but is then arrested as he was making porn. So how many mongers do the same amateur style LOL.
https://philippineslifestyle.com/american-3-pinays-arrested-porn-video/So that's why Trike Patrol has slowed down. 🙄.
Someone is enjoy pinay pussy in AC but is then arrested as he was making porn. So how many mongers do the same amateur style LOL.
https://philippineslifestyle.com/american-3-pinays-arrested-porn-video/I wouldn't call that shagging. More like raping. That's why the police got involved. A non resolution fee offense.
Wicked Roger
02-05-21, 02:50
I wouldn't call that shagging. More like raping. That's why the police got involved. A non resolution fee offense.That I can't comment on as I have no clue (unless you have more definitive information of course) but there are many porn 'producers' around in Manila and AC am told and plenty elsewhere in Asia so if they stop it here it goes elsewhere. Easy business model to replicate in some ways.
WestCoast1
02-05-21, 06:33
I wouldn't call that shagging. More like raping. That's why the police got involved. A non resolution fee offense.Back to the good old days of AC. Miles of smiles.
Someone is enjoy pinay pussy in AC but is then arrested as he was making porn. So how many mongers do the same amateur style LOL.
https://philippineslifestyle.com/american-3-pinays-arrested-porn-video/If it was indeed "forced" meaning rape, then they deserve whatever is coming to them. But often, that's not the whole story. Making a porn video often is consensual as they are willing partners and paid. This could be the result of some girls demanding more pesos or got cheated out of some pesos or a raid by police and girl cry rape to save face. Having so much equipment in the apt and 3 female associates to help film —hmm, seems more like a small filming studio rather than a rape house. Also, lets not forget the guy is actually filming all his acts of committing all the rapes on tape so that it can be used against him, hmm, again very suspicious, unless this guy and those 3 women were total morons. Who really knows until the whole story comes out. Always have to remember the Phil police almost always put a spin on the story to make it look good, especially lines line "rescuing the girls". How many times I've heard that when bars were raided and dancers working there on their own free will were arrested and listed as "rescued by the police" in the papers.
If it was indeed "forced" meaning rape, then they deserve whatever is coming to them. But often, that's not the whole story.99.99% of these have a back story: jealous boyfriend, someone unpaid, toes being stepped on or or plain old foreigner being a dickhead.
Stay below the radar boys. 🙂.
Enjoy. G.
The neighbors see undesirable females coming and going all day. Someone mentioned Trike Patrol. They kept meetings in hotel rooms.
99.99% of these have a back story: jealous boyfriend, someone unpaid, toes being stepped on or or plain old foreigner being a dickhead.
Stay below the radar boys. 🙂.
Enjoy. G.
The neighbors see undesirable females coming and going all day. Someone mentioned Trike Patrol. They kept meetings in hotel rooms.Like I said: dickhead foreigners.
If you're correct (and I have not reason to doubt you), who in their right mind gets a house in the suburbs and sets up a conveyor belt of hookers? There are many places in AC where having them delivered by the truckload wouldn't even raise eyebrows. Go there.
Darwin at work again. 👍 👍.
Like I said: dickhead foreigners.
If you're correct (and I have not reason to doubt you), who in their right mind gets a house in the suburbs and sets up a conveyor belt of hookers? There are many places in AC where having them delivered by the truckload wouldn't even raise eyebrows. Go there.
Darwin at work again. 👍 👍.It was at Kandi, where this stuff couldn't be any more ubiquitous. Has to be something major for police to even think of stepping onto those premises. Definitely wasn't a random raid in my books, they were unleashed on him, and cases like this usually involve someone who wants or wanted to get paid.
WestCoast1
02-09-21, 00:01
Some more AC shenanigans.
It was at Kandi, where this stuff couldn't be any more ubiquitous. Has to be something major for police to even think of stepping onto those premises. Definitely wasn't a random raid in my books, they were unleashed on him, and cases like this usually involve someone who wants or wanted to get paid.If that happened that Kandi, this will be the 2nd guy in the last 2 years arrested for rape there. Any idea which building?
I hear that the Towers is running an illegal go go bar on their roof.
If that happened that Kandi, this will be the 2nd guy in the last 2 years arrested for rape there. Any idea which building?
I hear that the Towers is running an illegal go go bar on their roof.KandiMan has a lot of pull (Peso Power).
If that happened that Kandi, this will be the 2nd guy in the last 2 years arrested for rape there. Any idea which building?
I hear that the Towers is running an illegal go go bar on their roof.I can't say for sure. I don't think they have a gogo bar on the roof LOL. Just a bar / lounge that operated during ecq and mecq (which was a grey area as the building is technically a residence, but also against the rules because outsiders could use the bar). Same as many other condos in AC with rooftop bars / restos.
I saw this video report from Walking St in January 2021 It certainly shows how the place is dying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPcbUGgmgv4&ab_channel=PhillyinthePhilippines/ (https://thesexygirlsinlingerie.com/)I agree. It's a sad sight.
NapaSlapper
02-09-21, 06:43
Under the Phill's republic act 1036 (human trafficking act) anyone who is caught in the act of soliciting prostitutes or making pornographic movies by paying prostitutes is in the eyes of the law guilty of human trafficking which carries a mandatory 20-year jail sentence and a large fine, I'm sure these movie Makers were fully aware of the law and the consequences, they chose to either disregard the law or take their chances and got caught, their lives as they know it is over, everybody takes a certain chance by visiting the Phill's To sample pinay flesh, upset someone or get caught in a sting then no good blaming anyone but ourselves we knew the risks.
If that happened that Kandi, this will be the 2nd guy in the last 2 years arrested for rape there. Any idea which building?
I hear that the Towers is running an illegal go go bar on their roof.Totally false, is a legit bar with food service from Kandi Bistro. There are some freelancers there in the evening but that does not make it a go go bar. Nothing about the operation is illegal, I was there Saturday night.
JohnReter335
02-11-21, 21:15
Totally false, is a legit bar with food service from Kandi Bistro. There are some freelancers there in the evening but that does not make it a go go bar. Nothing about the operation is illegal, I was there Saturday night.Yes that is a legal bar not an illegal place.
Pussycat123
02-14-21, 10:25
Boots on the ground are saying that the new Walking St bar "Sensations a gogo" was raided a couple of days ago. Korean owners and all the girls taken to jail, the girls were released after "fines" were paid. Someone even posted about this on YouTube. Apparently girls were dancing naked on stage which is a huge red flag in AC.
I don't know what the owners were thinking. There hasn't been nude dancing in AC bars for years so to do it during Covid is just dumb. Even the name "a gogo" doesn't make sense because nobody uses that term in AC, they just call them bars or girly bars. Either the owners are dumb as rocks, thought they were above the law or just didn't pay the right people.
Anyway, it seems that the green shoots of the AC bar scene have been stamped on with an iron boot.
Indy Hundred
02-15-21, 08:23
Back to the good old days of AC. Miles of smiles.I like this picture a lot Westie as it shows promise of what might happen. I can't see you smiling but I know you are smiling. And I particularly like the ISG on your bar tab chit. Nice touch.
WestCoast1
02-15-21, 23:09
I like this picture a lot Westie as it shows promise of what might happen. I can't see you smiling but I know you are smiling. Haha smiling then, smiling now.
There was lots of promise in every evening, just walking down the street.
WestCoast1
02-22-21, 08:44
There was lots of promise in every evening, just walking down the street.Some more promise.
SouthEaster
02-22-21, 20:01
I don't know if you need to blur the faces of the girls any longer. Even they would probably no longer recognize themselves!
WestCoast1
02-23-21, 02:51
I don't know if you need to blur the faces of the girls any longer. Even they would probably no longer recognize themselves!Its possible their families back home or current neighbors might recognize them. I'll stick with the game plan.
I am hoping PH will open up soon. Hopefully by July. My bags have been packed for a year now. I have 8-10 girls waiting for my arrival. 3 new ones that are willing to climb in bed right away. I will probably be in AC within 30 days of opening. I will be fully vaccinated too.
I am wondering if others are sitting on the sidelines waiting for PH to open?
And how fast will you be there when PH opens?
Do you have girls already lined up?
Sorry guys, I rather discuss the future than the past good ole days.
I am hoping PH will open up soon. Hopefully by July. My bags have been packed for a year now. I have 8-10 girls waiting for my arrival. 3 new ones that are willing to climb in bed right away. I will probably be in AC within 30 days of opening. I will be fully vaccinated too.
I am wondering if others are sitting on the sidelines waiting for PH to open?
And how fast will you be there when PH opens?
Do you have girls already lined up?
Sorry guys, I rather discuss the future than the past good ole days.Wait till you get there. All 10 girls will have some excuse not to meet you. Maybe 5 of them changed their number and ignore your messages. 3 new ones probably snapped up by some other foreigner.
Knowing Philippines nobody really waits. If you are already there and make a nice offer there will be some.
For me I do not depend on chatgirls who promised to be with me. If it happens so be it. But always keep back up plan.
Wait till you get there. All 10 girls will have some excuse not to meet you. Maybe 5 of them changed their number and ignore your messages. 3 new ones probably snapped up by some other foreigner.Not sure why you are so unlucky.
My girls are different. They find me so hansum that they are waiting cross legged for me to arrive. No problem if it's a year or two before the pandemic stops. I'm the first foreigner they will have met and they have stopped chatting online. They are only chatting with me now. Their cousin is now using their profile. That'ss why it's showing as active sometimes but really they are just at home helping their mom with the house work.
If you believe this then I have a bridge to sell you. Cheap!
Enjoy. G.
If you believe this then I have a bridge to sell you. Cheap!.I have a 50 story skyscraper I'll trade ya.
SS.
PeterStran2019
03-05-21, 11:03
Hi all,
As PH is now reopening to tourists, I am wondering if the is an ETA for AC bars to reopen -- any insights?
Thanks.
Mr Enternational
03-05-21, 13:13
I'm the first foreigner they will have met and they have stopped chatting online. They are only chatting with me now. Their cousin is now using their profile. That'ss why it's showing as active sometimesTo be fair, I have actually met chicks that were using their cousin's profile. Still don't get it though.
There was a comment yesterday (in one of the AC groups on Zuckernism) about how much easier it is to meet girls online and avoid having to pay the barfine. So basically this guy was saying how much easier it is to save that 20 or 25 dollars and just order one up like a pizza vs. Shooting fish in a barrel. Then of course he elaborated on how some guys would rather shoot fish in the barrel. Put me into the barrel group. Reasons being:
1) You will wait for a while to get a reply. Often you will get a reply from a different number saying "I don't have load, please send me. ".
2) If she does answer she will say "I get ready, I be there 1 hour. " This means you have time for a workout at the gym, a shower, a nap, and you can also cook dinner before she arrives.
3) If and when she arrives she will not be the girl you met online or if you have met her she will say "I need money for trike" or D) All of the above.
4) Insert one of many dramatic scenarios here that she will need emotional and financial, help with plus she say "I hungry. ".
5) Meanwhile you could have met one of the girls in the bars, took her out and been done with her way before Princess ever arrives. Plus you would have had a chance to actually talk to her and see if you would have had a connection with her before you took her out. If she says "I hungry" buy her 3 lumpia from Lugaw for 30 pesos and problem solved.
If you have seen one of the girls before of course you can make arrangements with her but usually on day off only. The online thing is hit and miss and it is actually worth a little bit of extra money for the pre-arranged meeting. If everyone avoids the bars eventually there might not be any and the online thing will be the only option. IMHO it is much easier to cull them in a bar setting than go through all of the waiting and BS of constant texting. The girls in the bars are usually ready to go on a moments notice and it saves you the constant waiting around to see if she responds or arrives. Yes there are exceptions. I know some that will respond and usually have load but for initial meeting the online thing is a process. If it's worth it to you to save 20 bucks then it's your option but it isn't like Amazon where you just place your order and it arrives exactly as presented.
Mr Enternational
03-05-21, 15:35
If everyone avoids the bars eventually there might not be any and the online thing will be the only option.Adavantages and disadvantages to everything. You cast a wider and quicker net online. You can walk around the city for hours looking for pizza joints, or you can sit at home and click a button and all the pizza joints in a 3 city area will pop up.
It is not people avoiding going to bars that will kill them. It is advancement in technology where the middle man is cut out that will kill them. Why do I need to sit in a smoky bar and be pestered to buy drinks all night? Why does a chick need to be subjected to rules of a bar and patrons complaining they are not dancing on the stage to their satisfaction in hopes of getting lucky for a bar fine, when they can just sit in the comfort of their home and wait for sure money to click on them?
On this trip to Brazil, I have finally realized 3 things. 1. Ubers have replaced expensive ass taxis. I was forced to take a taxi ride yesterday and it was 4 times the price that came up in Uber. 2. The people we used to rent apartments from that would manage them for the owners is a thing of the past. The short list of 2 apartments that my old contacts sent me pictures of, I would not let my dog stay in. Those rental people have been replaced by airbnb. 3. All the places we used to go to fuck chicks are either gone or horrible and expensive. Most of the chicks are online now. Get with the times or get left behind.
On this trip to Brazil, I have finally realized 3 things. 1. Ubers have replaced expensive ass taxis. I was forced to take a taxi ride yesterday and it was 4 times the price that came up in Uber. 2. The people we used to rent apartments from that would manage them for the owners is a thing of the past. The short list of 2 apartments that my old contacts sent me pictures of, I would not let my dog stay in. Those rental people have been replaced by airbnb. 3. All the places we used to go to fuck chicks are either gone or horrible and expensive. Most of the chicks are online now. Get with the times or get left behind.Hahaha Mr. E say get with the 21st century LOLOLOL! Yeah, you can and should be doing so much more online these days. My mom still runs around all over the place paying bills just like my grandma did (grandma didn't have other options)! And all because she's afraid of being online and having her identity stolen. That's a legitimate concern, but you can be safe operating online, and everybody should learn how to use the latest technology. I haven't mailed a letter to pay a bill or gone in somewhere to pay one since I don't know when! Why, when I can sit at home at a computer and do it? As for the tutes operating from only online, that works well for a particular type of girl. But in my opinion, there are certain things that just work better overall when handled in person, and that includes things that involve providing any kind of very personal service, to include fucking for money.
It's like hiring somebody for a job (and isn't that really what we mongers do). Yes, the internet has a place in the process, but in the end, you need some real "in the flesh time too". I'm not saying that making the deal can't be done online. It can. I just think that anything involving providing a personal service to people comes off better with some face-to-face dealings at some point, before there is any attempt to finalize the deal. For example, for a guy like me, the face is extremely important. I don't care how banging her body might be. If I don't like her face, then I don't want her. And we know how often these girls hide their faces on the internet, or how much mongers get hit with the old "bait and switch". I'm the kind of guy who will always prefer going out to an FKK, termas, or a bar to choose who I want. I'm picky about that face!
I say again. If I can't get past that face, then we can forget about me getting to them hind parts! LOLOLOLOLOL!
I have a 50 story skyscraper I'll trade ya.
SS.Sure. Send me the taxi far and I'll bring the bridge to you.
Wait till you get there. All 10 girls will have some excuse not to meet you. Maybe 5 of them changed their number and ignore your messages. 3 new ones probably snapped up by some other foreigner.
Knowing Philippines nobody really waits. If you are already there and make a nice offer there will be some.
For me I do not depend on chatgirls who promised to be with me. If it happens so be it. But always keep back up plan.Let's put a friendly wager of $100 per girl.
Hi all,
As PH is now reopening to tourists, I am wondering if the is an ETA for AC bars to reopen -- any insights?
Thanks.Yes, the day after I land there.
What's the source of your PH is reopening to tourists?
I don't know if you need to blur the faces of the girls any longer. Even they would probably no longer recognize themselves!Post your 10 year old photo then.
It is not people avoiding going to bars that will kill them. It is advancement in technology The biggest reason I've moved online is the drop in service from PI bars. I don't want to fall into the old guy's good ol' days lament but the days of turning up with a few buddies, finding a few fun and attractive girls, and having hours of fun bouncing around town and then back in the room are gone. The PI is moving more toward the LOS business model where everything is transactional and short time / instant gratification based. For those just looking for a quicky or notches on the bed post that it's no problem. For those looking for a good night out then its getting much harder to find in a bar.
I've has riotous good night's in AC and Sabang bars but they were years ago.
I have a 50 story skyscraper I'll trade ya.
SS.I have 2 25 story hoe tels to trade!
Hahaha Mr. E say get with the 21st century LOLOLOL! Yeah, you can and should be doing so much more online these days. . . .
. . . For example, for a guy like me, the face is extremely important. I don't care how banging her body might be. If I don't like her face, then I don't want her. And we know how often these girls hide their faces on the internet, or how much mongers get hit with the old "bait and switch". I'm the kind of guy who will always prefer going out to an FKK, termas, or a bar to choose who I want. I'm picky about that face!
I say again. If I can't get past that face, then we can forget about me getting to them hind parts! LOLOLOLOLOL!You present some good points that are spot on, with regards to face-to-face, being the defacto standard for most, but yes definitely many of us need to adapt or perish. (ie., "Resistance is futile" ...kkkk)
While the "face" is the ultimate factor for you, a "good attitude" is the key factor in "pretty face vs. Body" for me. I have to admit I love a good "butterface" (aka. "but-her-face") girl. I remember Howard Stern, use to have these $10 K Butteface pageant contests (not sure if he still does), but they where funny as hell.
So I present my "Unattainable P4P Triangle": Side One-FACE, Side Two: Body, Side Three: Good Attitude . These are the three (3) options/variables, I use in my "unattainable Triangle", others may use something else (ie. , Good, Fast, Cheap).
Pick any two (2), but typically you can't have all three (3). For those who have no problem attaining all three (3), on a consistent basis, all the power to you, enjoy.
For me, I'll take "body" and "good attitude", all day long, each and every day and twice on Sundays. As IMHO, I've yet to see too many "ugly" women with great bodies, but I've certainly had my fair share of pretty women with bad attitudes.
To each their own. Just enjoy whatever it is you prefer.
For me, I'll take "body" and "good attitude", all day long, each and every day and twice on Sundays. Hell yeah. Turn off the lights and every slim wild child could be a mixture of Ariana Grande and Hale Berry. Every heffer is always going to be Rosie O'Donnell regardless of what her face looks like. 😳.
Enjoy. G.
Pussycat123
03-08-21, 10:33
Hi all,
As PH is now reopening to tourists, I am wondering if the is an ETA for AC bars to reopen -- any insights?
Thanks.The only people allowed in as at March 2021 are those with Pinay spouse etc, its not open to regular tourists yet. Duterte recently said the opening will be linked to vaccinations, of which very few have ben carried out in Ph yet. Our best hope is that they will allow foreigners in with vaccination passports, but there is no announced plan about that. Per various AC bloggers, the bars seem to be opening up slowly but they can't be very busy with few tourists there right now.
You present some good points that are spot on, with regards to face-to-face, being the defacto standard for most, but yes definitely many of us need to adapt or perish. (ie., "Resistance is futile" ...kkkk)
While the "face" is the ultimate factor for you, a "good attitude" is the key factor in "pretty face vs. Body" for me. I have to admit I love a good "butterface" (aka. "but-her-face") girl. I remember Howard Stern, use to have these $10 K Butteface pageant contests (not sure if he still does), but they where funny as hell.
So I present my "Unattainable P4P Triangle": Side One-FACE, Side Two: Body, Side Three: Good Attitude . These are the three (3) options/variables, I use in my "unattainable Triangle", others may use something else (ie. , Good, Fast, Cheap).
Pick any two (2), but typically you can't have all three (3). For those who have no problem attaining all three (3), on a consistent basis, all the power to you, enjoy.
For me, I'll take "body" and "good attitude", all day long, each and every day and twice on Sundays. As IMHO, I've yet to see too many "ugly" women with great bodies, but I've certainly had my fair share of pretty women with bad attitudes.
To each their own. Just enjoy whatever it is you prefer.I do not like obese women period. Obesity affects both face and body so there is no talking about a good face and an obese body, where there is an obese body there is an ugly face. Now, the issue is a non obese woman with a good body and an ugly face or a not so good body and a pretty face, I will choose the latter. Recently I had a hooker over who had an amazing body but her face was ugly and I struggled with that session. On the other hand I have had girls whose body was nothing to shout about but pretty faces and I had no problem nutting.
SinfullyKorean
03-09-21, 03:14
I do not like obese women period. Obesity affects both face and body so there is no talking about a good face and an obese body, where there is an obese body there is an ugly face. Now, the issue is a non obese woman with a good body and an ugly face or a not so good body and a pretty face, I will choose the latter. Recently I had a hooker over who had an amazing body but her face was ugly and I struggled with that session. On the other hand I have had girls whose body was nothing to shout about but pretty faces and I had no problem nutting.Pretty sure I'm a face-man, too. Outside of the outright fat / obese, I don't mind slight chubbiness (by Asian standards) if she's got a pretty fast. I don't think I could get hard if she didn't have a reasonably attractive face.
I am a body man. You can always require a mask for the ugly face. Matter of fact one girl I know has beautiful eyes with a mask on. The other way is I take my glasses off and feel with my hands. Body does it for me.
When you fuck 'em doggy style, who cares what their face looks like? Give me an ugly spinner any day.
pretty faces and I had no problem nutting.I got to have the big boobs. Preferably slim, stacked and pretty face although not always easy to find. Cheers.
I got to have the big boobs. Preferably slim, stacked and pretty face although not always easy to find. Cheers.LOL! Sometimes it seems ugly fat girls have big boobs. Stacked pretty girls have options in life. One such girl I met in Manila was a mistress.
Of a leading lawyer there. She could never spend the whole night with me.
The only people allowed in as at March 2021 are those with Pinay spouse etc, its not open to regular tourists yet. Duterte recently said the opening will be linked to vaccinations, of which very few have ben carried out in Ph yet. Our best hope is that they will allow foreigners in with vaccination passports, but there is no announced plan about that. Per various AC bloggers, the bars seem to be opening up slowly but they can't be very busy with few tourists there right now.Cases are currently surging in the Philippines and have been for about a week, probably because of complacency and the variants. I know a waitress working at Howzat in Makati who feels the city is on the verge of another lockdown. Duterte himself said the opening of the country to foreigners will be tied to the vaccination of the Philippine public. I just saw this article from the AP.
https://news.yahoo.com/latest-philippine-capital-sets-restrictions-065150584.html
SinfullyKorean
03-11-21, 18:09
When you fuck 'em doggy style, who cares what their face looks like? Give me an ugly spinner any day.I like DFK. While making eye contact.
Member #4698
03-11-21, 18:32
When I am out and about I look for:#1 a pretty face AND #2 a sexy little body. When I am presented with several pretty faces in a bar or nightclub I will then decide who to ask over by selecting the girl whose body comes closest to my ideal or who does something sexy & interesting to get my attention. I prefer spinners with no fat, natural tits, flat little tummys, small butts, thin thighs and thin upper arms. I almost never take girls with silly cone. I never take fat girls or fuglies.
But looks, face & body, only get my attention and an invitation to come over and have a drink / get to know one another a little. If a smokin' hot girl does not pass the audition, I will let her go and keep looking. So, attractive good looks may be necessary in my selection process, but a girl's looks alone are not sufficient to secure a barfine from me. I want a nice friendly girl who somehow indicates to me that she wants to have a good time too. Attitude is more important than good looks although like I said good looks (a pretty face & a sexy little body) are required.
When you fuck 'em doggy style, who cares what their face looks like? Give me an ugly spinner any day.Back in 2019 I had a girl and her bi-friend come to my hotel. The bi had a good sized belly on her. Not very arousing to me. The bi wanted me to fuck her while she was going down on the girl. The girl was laying down on her back with the bi licking her, I was doing the bi in doggy style. What a view that was! The bi had a beautiful hour glass figure from behind (and feel) and seeing the girls face when she was having her big O gave me a big blast!
Reminds me of the advice I got decades ago.
Never turn her down. Just turn her over!
When you fuck 'em doggy style, who cares what their face looks like? Give me an ugly spinner any day.I'll go with ugly only if absolutely nothing else is available, but not too ugly.
If only 2 girls are available, one with a pretty face but bad attitude and the other with an ugly face but good attitude I'd choose the pretty face and try to make the best of the situation.
I'll go with ugly only if absolutely nothing else is available, but not too ugly.
If only 2 girls are available, one with a pretty face but bad attitude and the other with an ugly face but good attitude I'd choose the pretty face and try to make the best of the situation.I am usually in bed by 10-11 pm with a bg. The bg is usually from a perimeter bar. Perimeter bars usually closes around 11 pm. From 10:30 on the girls really start to look better! I have taken a few not too ugly girls around 10:50 pm. 9/10 have performed well.
Pinaypounder
03-16-21, 21:53
When I am out and about I look for:#1 a pretty face AND #2 a sexy little body. When I am presented with several pretty faces in a bar or nightclub I will then decide who to ask over by selecting the girl whose body comes closest to my ideal or who does something sexy & interesting to get my attention. I prefer spinners with no fat, natural tits, flat little tummys, small butts, thin thighs and thin upper arms. I almost never take girls with silly cone. I never take fat girls or fuglies.
But looks, face & body, only get my attention and an invitation to come over and have a drink / get to know one another a little. If a smokin' hot girl does not pass the audition, I will let her go and keep looking. So, attractive good looks may be necessary in my selection process, but a girl's looks alone are not sufficient to secure a barfine from me. I want a nice friendly girl who somehow indicates to me that she wants to have a good time too. Attitude is more important than good looks although like I said good looks (a pretty face & a sexy little body) are required.#1 Attitudeeee but this is the one thing that is easily lied about. To many times the girls that talk the best are in fact the worst.
#2 Body, Fat is a hard thing to do, and horrible baby busted boobs are soooo bad.
#2 A A willingness to play well with others.
#3 Pretty face, I fall in love with pretty faces and I don't seek love.
This is my 2 pesos!
PP.
I'll go with ugly only if absolutely nothing else is available, but not too ugly.
In my mongering career I have slept with some real shockers.
In Ph it's not so often. Most girls will have developed some redeeming features as compensation.
Average girl I met in Clark, worked as a house maid, average face, zero personality but she loved anal.
Plumpish bi girl, another AC local, larger build but OMG she could suck cock.
Generally I've found the larger the uglier the girl the better the BBBJ. How else to keep some guy if she doesn't have beauty?
RandMcNasty
03-17-21, 22:08
Not PI relevant, but when I'm searching on *** in the US I purposely limit my searches to woman who are no hotter than a 7, but perform no worse than a 7. I'm all about how well they perform, though if too fugly then I would certainly loose interest in anything but a BBBJ.
But those girls are just the best at that, as you note.
In my mongering career I have slept with some real shockers.
In Ph it's not so often. Most girls will have developed some redeeming features as compensation.
Average girl I met in Clark, worked as a house maid, average face, zero personality but she loved anal.
Plumpish bi girl, another AC local, larger build but OMG she could suck cock.
Generally I've found the larger the uglier the girl the better the BBBJ. How else to keep some guy if she doesn't have beauty?
When I am out and about I look for:#1 a pretty face AND #2 a sexy little body. When I am presented with several pretty faces in a bar or nightclub I will then decide who to ask over by selecting the girl whose body comes closest to my ideal or who does something sexy & interesting to get my attention. I prefer spinners with no fat, natural tits, flat little tummys, small butts, thin thighs and thin upper arms. I almost never take girls with silly cone. I never take fat girls or fuglies.
But looks, face & body, only get my attention and an invitation to come over and have a drink / get to know one another a little. If a smokin' hot girl does not pass the audition, I will let her go and keep looking. So, attractive good looks may be necessary in my selection process, but a girl's looks alone are not sufficient to secure a barfine from me. I want a nice friendly girl who somehow indicates to me that she wants to have a good time too. Attitude is more important than good looks although like I said good looks (a pretty face & a sexy little body) are required.In other words, the same kind of girls you dated and did in the real world in your day. Party on, dude! It is great that you can keep your standards.
Generally I've found the larger the uglier the girl the better the BBBJ. How else to keep some guy if she doesn't have beauty?I wasn't aware of the correlation between BMI and BBBJ but it makes sense.
I'd agree that there is a sweet spot in hotness and sanity. Too hot and there is no need to please; fully sane and she's a bore; full psycho just isn't pretty. Cute and borderline nuts is a lot of fun.
For those looking for a full explanation and a few laughs, just google "the hot crazy matrix".
Enjoy. G.
Average girl I met in Clark, worked as a house maid, average face, zero personality but she loved anal.
Plumpish bi girl, another AC local, larger build but OMG she could suck cock.
I've said it before:. BlowJobs and Backdoors, there are girls that do them under sufferance to stop their boyfriends from whinging and those that truly get off in them. There is no middle ground. 😁.
G.
I wasn't aware of the correlation between BMI and BBBJ but it makes sense.
I'd agree that there is a sweet spot in hotness and sanity. Too hot and there is no need to please; fully sane and she's a bore; full psycho just isn't pretty. Cute and borderline nuts is a lot of fun.
For those looking for a full explanation and a few laughs, just google "the hot crazy matrix".
Enjoy. G.Dang, the cat is out of the bag now! Years ago I used to get a regular massage from a heavy woman. This regular massage went on for a few months until one day she asked me if she could give me a BBBJCIM. Of course I oblige. This went on for a few times and then she asked if she could ride it. Dam ole bouncing Betty rode me a few times and then one day after she had cum she asked if she could suck me off! This became a monthly routine. I guess she was so horny and no one was giving her any attention. Never did have to tip her for the extras. I think she would have gotten mad if I did.
A number of other times I have had the heavier girl give me mind blowing service. Most had the wettest pussies I have ever encountered!
I'll go with ugly only if absolutely nothing else is available
.Damn, can't compete with you as your standards are way too high. Haha.
Cheers.
Mr Enternational
03-19-21, 20:33
Better luck next year.
Azmodeus Fl
03-20-21, 16:51
I have my standards also. I have never woke up with a coyote ugly woman (Where you would gnaw off your arm instead of waking her up). But again I try to avoid the knock down gorgeous women also. They usually full of themselves as every man is trying to get them. My preference is the middle ground women. These are the one who are not ugly by any means, but are what I call cute pretty. Some call them second stringers but that is OK with me. Besides they appreciate the attention more anyway.
DzikaBomba
03-20-21, 18:06
Better luck next year.Yeah and Liquor Ban also.
Dang, the cat is out of the bag now! Years ago I used to get a regular massage from a heavy woman. This regular massage went on for a few months until one day she asked me if she could give me a BBBJCIM. Of course I oblige. This went on for a few times and then she asked if she could ride it. Dam ole bouncing Betty rode me a few times and then one day after she had cum she asked if she could suck me off! This became a monthly routine. I guess she was so horny and no one was giving her any attention. Never did have to tip her for the extras. I think she would have gotten mad if I did.
A number of other times I have had the heavier girl give me mind blowing service. Most had the wettest pussies I have ever encountered!Now why did you have to post that? You're going to have all these mfs running after big girls which would explode the price for my ample beauties.
Now why did you have to post that? You're going to have all these mfs running after big girls which would explode the price for my ample beauties.Which would reduce demand for the twiglets?
The market will always settle.
Yeah and Liquor Ban also.Pogi doesn't want any disruptions while he and his diplomat buddies are having the party from hell. After Semana Santa is over it will all mysteriously go away. The corner of my Red Horse drinking Filipino buddies is still in operation 24 hours a day. Also 2 bars that never have to close since they are owned by government officials still have their operations are in full swing. At least Barretto is having a decent influx of AC residents.
Member #4794
04-14-21, 15:46
This is a story of 3 sisters all from the same town that went to work in AC.
Sister number 1 has a drug dealer of a boyfriend that she supports she is also a drug addict of colossal proportions made evident by her glazed over look despite her heavy makeup she is a disaster and was the first sister to step into AC which made way for her sisters.
Sister number 2 has always been flirty and looks a lot older than she really is witch is a requirement for working in AC. She has questionable morals and is extremely self serving, she has had an off and off again relationship with a black-arab guy as soon as he heard that she was having a baby she fled pre covid.
Sister number 3 might be the most normal bar girl out of this trio she worked in AC as soon as she was able and is your run of the mill bar girl.
The first 6 months of the pandemic they were all in limbo holding out hope the bars would reopen. As time went on they got anxious and sister number 2 got a legit job at a department store. Sister number 3 stayed back to hold out hopes of AC reopening and sister number 1 promptly moved back to the province so her drug supply would not be interrupted. Shortly after sister number 2 started working at the department store she started to turn out these Pilipino guys working with her for extra money she started to preposition them and she started to mess around with married guys whom she worked with. Easy enough to see where that is headed she had a massive blow up with the wives of said married guys and was fired. By that time Sister number 3 found a local guy that was willing to house her in exchange for sex. Sister number 2 now fired decides to expand her options and emboldened by sister number 3's success she decides to find someone to support her through this pandemic. Sister number 2 finally found a guy while this isn't a pay for play situation she lives and eats rent free and the guy she found also supports her now 2 year old baby, he promptly proposes to her in hopes that she will not go back to work after this pandemic is over. Fast forward about 3 months and she now has come to find out she is pregnant once again. Shortly after that she finds out now much too late that the guy is actually a first cousin. I think this is where the banjos start playing in the background. Now Sister number 3 very low on cash is starting to pawn items from her family members house other wise known as burglary. Everyone in her barangay knows when she is stealing because of the crying and yelling that takes place. She argues its not technically stealing because she bought the items in the first place.
Pre-pandemic these 3 sisters were building an empire they had 3 fishing boats built a house and bought 2 motorbikes. All off their backs in the machine that is AC. All 3 sisters vowed to never return to the AC life style. Just the other day in light of the drama I got word that when AC inevitably reopens all 3 sisters are going back to work. Had this pandemic subsided 6 months or even a year after it started I think we would have seen a decline in working girls. But from what I can tell the next few years after this pandemic will be a gold mine for hot working girls as these girls have dried up the local guys coffers as well as their own. Some of these girls are fated to work in these bars until their unceremonious retirements due to old age.
Chocha Monger
04-14-21, 22:38
Pre-pandemic these 3 sisters were building an empire they had 3 fishing boats built a house and bought 2 motorbikes. All off their backs in the machine that is AC. All 3 sisters vowed to never return to the AC life style. Just the other day in light of the drama I got word that when AC inevitably reopens all 3 sisters are going back to work. Had this pandemic subsided 6 months or even a year after it started I think we would have seen a decline in working girls. But from what I can tell the next few years after this pandemic will be a gold mine for hot working girls as these girls have dried up the local guys coffers as well as their own. Some of these girls are fated to work in these bars until their unceremonious retirements due to old age.If it is any comfort, their empire was likely to collapse even without the arrival of the Wuhan virus. Filipinos have difficulty separating the cash flow from business endeavors and personal spending to show off to the barangay. This flaw means that their attempts at small business usually fail quickly. Fishing boats require upkeep, repairs, and fuel. Nets need mending. Lost lines and equipment need replacement. Not every fishing excursion will result in a catch large enough to be profitable. Even when a catch is profitable, fishermen are likely to squander the proceeds on a night of drinking, feasting, and karaoke. They will then contact the girls asking for more money for fuel, repairs, etc. The fishing boats will quickly become a money pit that the girls throw their hard-earned fuck fees into with no return. The same goes for the motorbikes, assuming that they are trikes capable of earning fares.
Once Pinays enter the world of prostitution, they are unlikely to find their way out again. Many gullible foreign men have paid the ultimate price trying to save these women from the oldest profession.
This is a story of 3 sisters all from the same town that went to work in AC.
Sister number 1 has a drug dealer of a boyfriend that she supports she is also a drug addict of colossal proportions made evident by her glazed over look despite her heavy makeup she is a disaster and was the first sister to step into AC which made way for her sisters.
Sister number 2 has always been flirty and looks a lot older than she really is witch is a requirement for working in AC. She has questionable morals and is extremely self serving, she has had an off and off again relationship with a black-arab guy as soon as he heard that she was having a baby she fled pre covid.
Sister number 3 might be the most normal bar girl out of this trio she worked in AC as soon as she was able and is your run of the mill bar girl.
The first 6 months of the pandemic they were all in limbo holding out hope the bars would reopen. As time went on they got anxious .Same story but 2 girls. Very pretty. Young, thin working at a Japanese Karaoke club. I met the older one on DIA while ago. She balked at my offer of 3000 LT when I was in Manila. For some reason I get a call from her after an hour saying she is hungry and want to eat. We met and she was well dressed. Took her to a nice restaurant and started chatting about life, love, work. She claimed she does not go with Japanese customers which was probably a lie. One thing led to another and ended up in bed. Next day she introduced her sister to me and equally pretty. Ended up in bed with her. Kept in touch off and on. Planned a trip last March and they were waiting for me. Once Karaoke closed came money demands. I declined as usual giving one sorry excuse after another. After that did not try to contact.
They also were building castles in the air. Some Japanese guy wanted to take them to live permanently in Japan.
Booked to go to Philippines in November. Had to use the cancelled trip credit before it expires in December. Will try to contact them when I am there.
This Covid thing has upended lots of dreams.
Engine Driver
04-15-21, 02:04
If it is any comfort, their empire was likely to collapse even without the arrival of the Wuhan virus. Filipinos have difficulty separating the cash flow from business endeavors and personal spending to show off to the barangay. This flaw means that their attempts at small business usually fail quickly. Fishing boats require upkeep, repairs, and fuel. Nets need mending. Lost lines and equipment need replacement. Not every fishing excursion will result in a catch large enough to be profitable. Even when a catch is profitable, fishermen are likely to squander the proceeds on a night of drinking, feasting, and karaoke. They will then contact the girls asking for more money for fuel, repairs, etc. The fishing boats will quickly become a money pit that the girls throw their hard-earned fuck fees into with no return. The same goes for the motorbikes, assuming that they are trikes capable of earning fares.
Once Pinays enter the world of prostitution, they are unlikely to find their way out again. Many gullible foreign men have paid the ultimate price trying to save these women from the oldest profession.Girls with minimal education have no concept of working capital, cashflow and budgets when it comes to owning and operating a business. Filipino society at the lower end works on a cycle of credit between relatives and friends with no prospect of ever collecting the debts. I am surprised the three sisters did not go into the sari-sari business, which seems to be the default position (or dream) for every retired hooker. Many hookers have told me that they have failed many times with sari-sari businesses because relatives always expected to receive the goods on credit, with no intention of ever paying back what is owed. Yet, they never learn and always think they can succeed despite repeated failures.
They also were building castles in the air. Some Japanese guy wanted to take them to live permanently in Japan.Knew one Pinay in Singapore who had once worked in Japan at a karaoke bar, married one older Japanese man and had a kid by him and was deported from Japan. Since her daughter has dual citizenship she was trying to use her to get back into Japan vice her being in Singapore working on her back while her daughter was in the PI. She told me her tale of woe, how one Japanese man wanted to marry her but she blew him off since he wasn't too good looking and her friend married one that all the girls thought was funny looking but in the end, the one that stuck with the odd man out is living in Japan out of the club and stable, and all the ones that opted for the high end wound up settling or getting kicked out and trying to make their way back. Sometimes they just don't know what they have until it runs out.
She told me her tale of woe, how one Japanese man wanted to marry her but she blew him off since he wasn't too good looking and her friend married one that all the girls thought was funny looking but in the end, the one that stuck with the odd man out is living in Japan out of the club and stable, and all the ones that opted for the high end wound up settling or getting kicked out and trying to make their way back.There are many similar stories but remember it runs both ways. I know many guys who only dated and often married stunners. Without exception these girls were totally useless at any practical aspect of life and the relationships always dissolved into dramas and messy break ups. I don't know one that stood the test of time.
Member #4794
04-15-21, 04:51
... all the girls thought was funny looking but in the end, the one that stuck with the odd man out is living in Japan out of the club and stable, and all the ones that opted for the high end wound up settling or getting kicked out and trying to make their way back. Sometimes they just don't know what they have until it runs out.I think you might be missing the moral of your own story there. This makes it seem like the luck of the draw is what made that relationship successful. The reason why the relationship is successful in that case is that the funny looking guy was doing what he could to find a woman that would serve as a companion. Guys who are not funny looking are looking to stick their cocks in a hole, any hole. Compromise goes a long way and the dangerous thing about AC or any red light district is they get jaded and spoiled by guys who want to feel like elite members of society by elevating a working girl. Its all fantasy all be it a fantastic and extremely fulfilling fantasy, still a fantasy. In the end compromise is what these bar girls lack or working girls in general lack and the girls who make it out fall in love or I should say are capable of falling in love with the ugliest guy you have ever laid eyes on. Girls getting out of this business is a matter of being content with limited choices and living within their means. If you ever hear AC girls talk to their friends they always brag about how much money they can make in a night compared to their friends in the province that earn 200 pesos a day. These "good" girls would never dream of giving up their "real" life up for the lie these girls live and most working girls cannot go back to being a civilian they moan and groan about how boring it is living a normal life.
I think you might be missing the moral of your own story there. This makes it seem like the luck of the draw is what made that relationship successful. The reason why the relationship is successful in that case is that the funny looking guy was doing what he could to find a woman that would serve as a companion. Guys who are not funny looking are looking to stick their cocks in a hole, any hole. Compromise goes a long way and the dangerous thing about AC or any red light district is they get jaded and spoiled by guys who want to feel like elite members of society by elevating a working girl. Its all fantasy all be it a fantastic and extremely fulfilling fantasy, still a fantasy. In the end compromise is what these bar girls lack or working girls in general lack and the girls who make it out fall in love or I should say are capable of falling in love with the ugliest guy you have ever laid eyes on. Girls getting out of this business is a matter of being content with limited choices and living within their means. If you ever hear AC girls talk to their friends they always brag about how much money they can make in a night compared to their friends in the province that earn 200 pesos a day. These "good" girls would never dream of giving up their "real" life up for the lie these girls live and most working girls cannot go back to being a civilian they moan and groan about how boring it is living a normal life.MM you are correct. It is a two way street. But I guess I look at it if someone is just going to "settle" and still keep up at it looking for "Mr. Good Bar" that may come along will not end well for either party. But it is interesting to see what some will do to get to that point.
Nice Guy 99
04-15-21, 19:39
All 3 sisters vowed to never return to the AC life style. Get back on your backs girls. Spread your legs and smile.
Spot on mate. My ex from PI lived in Oz with her ex hubby fir 3-4 years and still have zero concept of money. She thinks we grow it on trees and are all loaded. I tried to explain the concept of job, savings, budgets, spending and all she would go back to was Facebook or sleeping all day. Their lack of education is a big factor but the lack of motivation to do something with her life was depressing to me. I can't imagine spending every day watching Youtube, IG or FB or making stupid Tik Tok videos when in your early 30's!
We'd go out and she would stop at every shop wanting me to buy clothes, food, homewares. I told her we'd go broke within a couple of years unless she got off her very cute ass and got a job to help. She flicked between wanting to do a beauty course, to opening a sari sari shop, to being in hospitality, to a hair dresser, to finally just wanting a baby to look after and have me pay for everything including her 20+ extended family. This I know happens a lot to guys. Fall in love with a hottie and along comes 25 family members expecting you to support them.
I don't think I will ever understand it. The thai girls also have nothing, but there Buddhist upbringing seems to give them a better understanding of how the world works. And lots of them are smoking hot and thai food shits all over PI food. LOL.
Girls with minimal education have no concept of working capital, cashflow and budgets when it comes to owning and operating a business. Filipino society at the lower end works on a cycle of credit between relatives and friends with no prospect of ever collecting the debts. I am surprised the three sisters did not go into the sari-sari business, which seems to be the default position (or dream) for every retired hooker. Many hookers have told me that they have failed many times with sari-sari businesses because relatives always expected to receive the goods on credit, with no intention of ever paying back what is owed. Yet, they never learn and always think they can succeed despite repeated failures.
Their lack of education is a big factor but the lack of motivation to do something with her life was depressing to me. I can't imagine spending every day watching Youtube.I made the mistake of asking one what she wanted her kid to do later in life. Total deer in the headlights look. I thought I had asked vector coordinates to Mars.
Absolutely no sense of ambition, betterment or future planning. But being a great root made up for that. 😁.
I am hoping PH will open up soon. Hopefully by July. My bags have been packed for a year now. I have 8-10 girls waiting for my arrival. 3 new ones that are willing to climb in bed right away. I will probably be in AC within 30 days of opening. I will be fully vaccinated too.
I am wondering if others are sitting on the sidelines waiting for PH to open?
And how fast will you be there when PH opens?
Do you have girls already lined up?
Sorry guys, I rather discuss the future than the past good ole days.I think that they will give us 2 weeks notice. I plan to be vaccinated and on the 1st plane there.
No girls lined up. My numbers are old or they are outside of ac.
Plush Tiger
04-18-21, 07:28
Spot on mate. My ex from PI lived in Oz with her ex hubby fir 3-4 years and still have zero concept of money. She thinks we grow it on trees and are all loaded. I tried to explain the concept of job, savings, budgets, spending and all she would go back to was Facebook or sleeping all day. Their lack of education is a big factor but the lack of motivation to do something with her life was depressing to me. I can't imagine spending every day watching Youtube, IG or FB or making stupid Tik Tok videos when in your early 30's!We have a different breed of pinnays here in Dubai,. They seem to come from a different breed of the ones that are described here. They are often educated (nurses, accountant) and do jobs that are often below their level of education (such as cashiers or maid). Their built a reputation of being quite hard working and they are the ones supporting their families, paying the tuition of their brother, etc. The caveat is that they are not necessarily cute although quite a few work as part time WG. I believe that once a girl decided to use its charms as a means of leaving it shows a lack of education and purpose, so no wonder they are purposeless and do not understand the effort / reward concept and they get addicted to the short term retribution. Studying, saving or any kind of success in life comes after lots efforts, whereas sitting in a bar to find a dick or betting making the bet that the next foreigner man for whom you open your legs is going to be the one that will fend for you is more of short term hit and run kind of mentality. So in a sense one should not be surprised that the kind of girls have no purpose other than short term fun.
I think that they will give us 2 weeks notice. I plan to be vaccinated and on the 1st plane there.
No girls lined up. My numbers are old or they are outside of ac.Thank you for an intelligent reply. I am vaccinated and ready to go. Plenty of girls waiting.
We have a different breed of pinnays here in Dubai,. They seem to come from a different breed of the ones that are described here. They are often educated (nurses, accountant) and do jobs that are often below their level of education (such as cashiers or maid). Their built a reputation of being quite hard working and they are the ones supporting their families, paying the tuition of their brother, etc. The caveat is that they are not necessarily cute although quite a few work as part time WG. I believe that once a girl decided to use its charms as a means of leaving it shows a lack of education and purpose, so no wonder they are purposeless and do not understand the effort / reward concept and they get addicted to the short term retribution. Studying, saving or any kind of success in life comes after lots efforts, whereas sitting in a bar to find a dick or betting making the bet that the next foreigner man for whom you open your legs is going to be the one that will fend for you is more of short term hit and run kind of mentality. So in a sense one should not be surprised that the kind of girls have no purpose other than short term fun.I have a friend who lives in Qatar. He is a monger going to Philippines many times. He says there are lots of Philippines girls working there but get clingy very fast with plenty of drama.
Not the same like Philippines where you do your thing, give money and done.
I think that they will give us 2 weeks notice. I plan to be vaccinated and on the 1st plane there.
No girls lined up. My numbers are old or they are outside of ac.No need to have a line up. I hit in the morning on social sites and have the girl come over in the afternoon. If good I keep her. If not back to the drawing board.
Member #4794
04-18-21, 15:50
We have a different breed of pinnays here in Dubai,. They seem to come from a different breed of the ones that are described here.They are just the top end of the IQ scale, Avg IQ for phils is about 85 which is below the world avg and that is propped up by the OFWs of which you speak. So when you remove the OFWs from the general population and ship them overseas the over all IQ of your avg bar girl with a less than high school education would sit in the mid 60's at best. If you have ever tried to give your bar girl a complex problem to solve or anything that would require anything resembling problem solving you should know all too well that their cognitive ability is extremely limited. Its almost a requirement that bargirls have a lower than average IQ because they would be "over qualified" otherwise. I'm glad that they ship the "smart" pinays off overseas it leaves all of the pliable and docile pinays at home to enjoy. I would strongly advise against dating an OFW its is akin to dating an foreigner waste of time imo. I personally don't go to the Philippines for pinays specifically. I go to the Philippines for the relatively low IQ and less SJW feminist minded type of woman. Entitlement, SJW, cancel culture movement sweeping western civilization does the opposite of Viagra for me and I can't run far or fast enough to escape this type of woman. In a way the shipping out of OFWs leaves the feminist movement without any real leaders in the Philippines imo. Which is the reason why "its more fun in the Philippines".
Member #4794
04-18-21, 16:08
Hopefully by July.
I am wondering if others are sitting on the sidelines waiting for PH to open?
And how fast will you be there when PH opens?
Do you have girls already lined up?
I have about 25 k-35 k USD I made off bitcoin allotted for this next phils trip. Business class ticket + as many women as I can bang a day for 30 days.
I am not vaccinated yet so I would go as soon as I could get my hands on a vaccination. I have about 3 girls lined up in the Visayas smaller cities like Catbalogan City and Ormoc which I am not sure about I don't know how the LGUs will handle the reopening but I plan to stay in AC for at least 2 weeks to get reacquainted with pussy for sure. One shining glimmer of hope is they plan to open a vaccine manufacturing plant in clark which is in cooperation with some korean firm. So the sooner they start to ramp that up the sooner we open. I don't think July is possible you may be right but unless some major shifts happen in phils in the next 3 months were looking at the beginning of 2022 unfortunately. If they do open up sooner my wad of cash is ready.
https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/03/15/news/national/phs-own-vaccine-plant-in-the-works/851132/
They are just the top end of the IQ scale, Avg IQ for phils is about 85 which is below the world avg and that is propped up by the OFWs of which you speak. So when you remove the OFWs from the general population and ship them overseas the over all IQ of your avg bar girl with a less than high school education would sit in the mid 60's at best. If you have ever tried to give your bar girl a complex problem to solve or anything that would require anything resembling problem solving you should know all too well that their cognitive ability is extremely limited. Its almost a requirement that bargirls have a lower than average IQ because they would be "over qualified" otherwise. I'm glad that they ship the "smart" pinays off overseas it leaves all of the pliable and docile pinays at home to enjoy. I would strongly advise against dating an OFW its is akin to dating an foreigner waste of time imo. I personally don't go to the Philippines for pinays specifically. I go to the Philippines for the relatively low IQ and less SJW feminist minded type of woman. Entitlement, SJW, cancel culture movement sweeping western civilization does the opposite of Viagra for me and I can't run far or fast enough to escape this type of woman. In a way the shipping out of OFWs leaves the feminist movement without any real leaders in the Philippines imo. Which is the reason why "its more fun in the Philippines".I like your perspective, MM. Intelligence in women, particularly, is highly overrated and questionable IMHO. Then they start asking too many questions. The college students, like my GF, and grads in general may up that 85 to a 95 but even so your point is well taken in my book. HA! And I used to be an academic! Oh well. I'd rather have sweet and sexy than smart and whatever any day and twice on Sunday.
I have about 25 k-35 k USD I made off bitcoin allotted for this next phils trip. Business class ticket + as many women as I can bang a day for 30 days.
I am not vaccinated yet so I would go as soon as I could get my hands on a vaccination. I have about 3 girls lined up in the Visayas smaller cities like Catbalogan City and Ormoc which I am not sure about I don't know how the LGUs will handle the reopening but I plan to stay in AC for at least 2 weeks to get reacquainted with pussy for sure. One shining glimmer of hope is they plan to open a vaccine manufacturing plant in clark which is in cooperation with some korean firm. So the sooner they start to ramp that up the sooner we open. I don't think July is possible you may be right but unless some major shifts happen in phils in the next 3 months were looking at the beginning of 2022 unfortunately. If they do open up sooner my wad of cash is ready.
https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/03/15/news/national/phs-own-vaccine-plant-in-the-works/851132/That's a good amount of money to set aside for PH trip. Congrats on Bitcoin speculation paying off.
I am pretty skeptical about a vaccine plant getting built let along in time in PH. I highly doubt it. More Economically to buy proven western vaccines from wester countries. Problem is PH lacks money and political clout to buy. Dutere fuxk that up. Most Filipinos will not take China vaccine.
Member #4794
04-19-21, 02:18
More Economically to buy proven western vaccines from wester countries. Problem is PH lacks money and political clout to buy. Dutere fuxk that up. Most Filipinos will not take China vaccine.From what I can gather the world police will not allow certain countries to open back up or allow its citizens to travel to other countries if these countries do not have adequate access to vaccine. The WHO is now discussing and defining the criteria and ethics involved in opening back up and allowing western countries to run free. One of their main criteria for it to be ethically sound to open back up is access to the vaccine. So if it appears as if there is an ample supply to the vaccine (PH based vaccine) that should satisfy the WHO's criteria for allowing vaccinated foreign travelers back into these countries. Another thing to keep an eye out for is breakthrough infections, if we start to see vaccinated people become infected at a higher than expected rate we could also see some setbacks in this timeline and will certainly be prohibited from traveling for leisure. If we see the breakthrough cases baseline at a relatively low rate even with the variants that would be best case. I am not going to travel if a quarantine is necessary so even if they open back up I personally won't travel unless a negative covid test and vaccination card are accepted in place of a quarantine.
Mr Enternational
04-19-21, 02:27
From what I can gather the world police will not allow certain countries to open back up or allow its citizens to travel to other countries if these countries do not have adequate access to vaccine.How did you gather this and who is the world police? INTERPOL?
Member #4794
04-19-21, 03:07
How did you gather this and who is the world police? INTERPOL?The information I gather is sentiment that coincides with investment opportunity's I watch these extremely dry briefings from ASEAN, WHO, UNESCO, ect. Don't take what I say as law just one old guys opinion and may be swayed by the direction I want my investments to go. We may be opening up mid year like the travel industry anticipates but to which destinations? I suspect they will not be destinations with a population with low over all vaccination percentages and an ongoing raging outbreak. So these counties do need to hit some kind of magic metric before reopening. I think we will see countries with varying policies hopefully the Philippines will be on that less restrictive list. I originally assumed wrongly that the Philippines would be less restrictive as a whole, hard to see the future in this case but things change very rapidly.
"Media briefing on COVID-19".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KTmxTovzxA
From what I can gather the world police will not allow certain countries to open back up or allow its citizens to travel to other countries if these countries do not have adequate access to vaccine. The WHO is now discussing and defining the criteria and ethics involved in opening back up and allowing western countries to run free. One of their main criteria for it to be ethically sound to open back up is access to the vaccine. I am sure that's the case, and currently, the Philippines has about 3 million doses of the vaccine (Sinovac and AstraZeneca) but needs about 180 million doses to fully vaccinate the population to herd immunity; however, the people don't trust those vaccines. I am sure they would want the two blue ribbon vaccines that most Americans are taking. I saw on FB that YTubber Wil Dasovich is vlogging about going back the San Francissco to get his two Moderna doses.
Who knows when the Phils will reopen, but it will probably be later than sooner. My guess is sometime in 2023.
Beware AC mongers, major competition is heading your way.
The fine moral campaigner and "Minister for Manila" Big George Christensen, is about to retire, take his fat politician's retirement package and return to AC to be closer to his family, support their local "charity work" and conduct as many fact finding interviews with 1000 p hookers as possible.
Sydney Morning Herald: Outspoken Nationals MP George Christensen to quit politics.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/outspoken-nationals-mp-george-christensen-to-quit-politics-20210422-p57ln7.html
Sydney Morning Herald: George Christensen 'a regular' at Philippines adult entertainment bar: manager.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/george-christensen-a-regular-at-philippines-adult-entertainment-bar-manager-20191202-p53g57.html
Beware AC mongers, major competition is heading your way.
The fine moral campaigner and "Minister for Manila" Big George Christensen, is about to retire, take his fat politician's retirement package and return to AC to be closer to his family, support their local "charity work" and conduct as many fact finding interviews with 1000 p hookers as possible.Imagine being a 15 year old Flipper hooker and George Christensen is your next client. Talk about earning your money!
Beware AC mongers, major competition is heading your way.
The fine moral campaigner and "Minister for Manila" Big George Christensen, is about to retire, take his fat politician's retirement package and return to AC to be closer to his family, support their local "charity work" and conduct as many fact finding interviews with 1000 p hookers as possible.
Sydney Morning Herald: Outspoken Nationals MP George Christensen to quit politics.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/outspoken-nationals-mp-george-christensen-to-quit-politics-20210422-p57ln7.html
Sydney Morning Herald: George Christensen 'a regular' at Philippines adult entertainment bar: manager.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/george-christensen-a-regular-at-philippines-adult-entertainment-bar-manager-20191202-p53g57.htmlMajor competition! How can he be? He only has one dick!
He never was in my way before. Plenty of pussy here folks.
Lazy Summer
04-22-21, 23:48
They are just the top end of the IQ scale, Avg IQ for phils is about 85 which is below the world avg and that is propped up by the OFWs of which you speak. So when you remove the OFWs from the general population and ship them overseas the over all IQ of your avg bar girl with a less than high school education would sit in the mid 60's at best. If you have ever tried to give your bar girl a complex problem to solve or anything that would require anything resembling problem solving you should know all too well that their cognitive ability is extremely limited. Its almost a requirement that bargirls have a lower than average IQ because they would be "over qualified" otherwise. I'm glad that they ship the "smart" pinays off overseas it leaves all of the pliable and docile pinays at home to enjoy. I would strongly advise against dating an OFW its is akin to dating an foreigner waste of time imo. I personally don't go to the Philippines for pinays specifically. I go to the Philippines for the relatively low IQ and less SJW feminist minded type of woman. Entitlement, SJW, cancel culture movement sweeping western civilization does the opposite of Viagra for me and I can't run far or fast enough to escape this type of woman. In a way the shipping out of OFWs leaves the feminist movement without any real leaders in the Philippines imo. Which is the reason why "its more fun in the Philippines".I live in UAE and have had the opportunity to hire several female CPA's from the Philippines. They are terrific at their work and most of them love to be fucked after work. I had the good fortune to take the virginity of one of them. It took a while to get her to open her legs but it was worth it. We connected at an intellectual level. She had an IQ of 120+ and was ranked in her CPA exam. The others were good too but not as exciting as her. In total I enjoyed 4 of them. The 5th had religion. All were cute.
Chocha Monger
04-23-21, 02:40
Beware AC mongers, major competition is heading your way.
The fine moral campaigner and "Minister for Manila" Big George Christensen, is about to retire, take his fat politician's retirement package and return to AC to be closer to his family, support their local "charity work" and conduct as many fact finding interviews with 1000 p hookers as possible.
Sydney Morning Herald: Outspoken Nationals MP George Christensen to quit politics.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/outspoken-nationals-mp-george-christensen-to-quit-politics-20210422-p57ln7.html
Sydney Morning Herald: George Christensen 'a regular' at Philippines adult entertainment bar: manager.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/george-christensen-a-regular-at-philippines-adult-entertainment-bar-manager-20191202-p53g57.htmlThere will be many other fine moral campaigners joining Big George on his Fact Finding Commission in AC. They will be getting to the bottom of the matter with detailed interviews of the 1,000-peso hookers. Particularly needy interviewees will receive ongoing small charitable donations via money transfer services. This is not competition for expat NGO mongers. It is a boon to the community, as many have already shared cups and holes with the Minister for Manila wittingly or unwittingly.
Jazzy Daddy
04-23-21, 04:58
Pure American Honkey BS!
Major competition! How can he be? He only has one dick!
He never was in my way before. Plenty of pussy here folks.Did you see the news stories I linked? The chiselled handsome face? The rock hard body from hours in the gym? What about all the contacts from years of charity work and 500 p care packages with impoverished single mothers? His wife was doing her own research when they met in an AC bar so no doubt all her friends will be keen to meet up again and line up for a charitable donation.
Enjoy. G.
Beware AC mongers, major competition is heading your way.
The fine moral campaigner and "Minister for Manila" Big George Christensen, is about to retire, take his fat politician's retirement package and return to AC to be closer to his family, support their local "charity work"]He has actually taken up the task for to a few aussie AC locals whom have had problems with Aust govt. Hopefully he will retain some connection back to Au government.
It was interesting to note that he wasn't able to work the border controls and get his wife to Au. I am sure it could have been done procedurally but probably a bad look.
Did you see the news stories I linked? The chiselled handsome face? The rock hard body from hours in the gym? What about all the contacts from years of charity work and 500 p care packages with impoverished single mothers? His wife was doing her own research when they met in an AC bar so no doubt all her friends will be keen to meet up again and line up for a charitable donation.
Enjoy. G.Yep. But it's no match to my pocket full of blue notes for my blue balls. As you can see evidenced by all the nice looking Pinays with the old fat, bald beer bellie low life's.
Defense rest.
Yep. But it's no match to my pocket full of blue notes for my blue balls. As you can see evidenced by all the nice looking Pinays with the old fat, bald beer bellie low life's.
Defense rest.Apologies. I didn't realise you thought my post was serious. I wasn't being so at all.
I'm sure that you and anyone who cares to is getting all the pussy they want in AC and will continue to do so.
Enjoy. G.
Apologies. I didn't realise you thought my post was serious. I wasn't being so at all.
I'm sure that you and anyone who cares to is getting all the pussy they want in AC and will continue to do so.
Enjoy. G.No apology needed. Believe me, I do not take any post here seriously. I have been locked out of PH since March, 2020. Thus plenty of blue bills saved up. Good news is plenty of girls turning 18 the past 13 months! Bumper crop.
Member #4794
05-03-21, 02:40
"SULLIVAN'S IRISH PUB BALIBAGO, PHILIPPINES" is proclaiming AC coming back to life saying liquor ban is off, karaoke still banned. Too soon or is this true?
"SULLIVAN'S IRISH PUB BALIBAGO, PHILIPPINES" is proclaiming AC coming back to life saying liquor ban is off, karaoke still banned. Too soon or is this true?Liquor ban in AC was rescinded May 1st. However, bars are only allowed to open if they are "resto-bars" (i.e. Serve food). Thus the majority of the bars on Walking Street are still closed. AC is still a non-entity in terms of nightlife.
Subic / Barretto is much more lively, with almost all bars open, no liquor ban, dancers, bar fines as normal, etc. Some of the AC girls even moved as an entire bar to another bar in Subic (all of the Q Bar girls in AC went to Thumbstar in Barretto until the bars reopen in AC). Midnight curfew in Barretto but bars open much earlier (between 2-4 pm) and you're ready to go back by then anyway usually. Mask / face shield required outside, but in the bar you can take them off and there's no real "social distancing" inside unless the Pulis comes by.
If you're driving, no real checkpoints between AC / Subic on the SCTEX. Sometimes the SBMA guards might ask you where you are going / where you're coming from, but I haven't had any issues. Not sure if it's more strict if you go by bus.
(Source: me. Have been in AC the whole lockdown, went to Subic / Baretto the last 3 weekends hahah).
Liquor ban in AC was rescinded May 1st. However, bars are only allowed to open if they are "resto-bars" (i.e. Serve food). Thus the majority of the bars on Walking Street are still closed. AC is still a non-entity in terms of nightlife.
Subic / Barretto is much more lively, with almost all bars open, no liquor ban, dancers, bar fines as normal, etcPositive news from Subic Bay is encouraging to mongers. Send some field reports to keep the AC forum lively. And for the starving mongers.
Positive news from Subic Bay is encouraging to mongers. Send some field reports to keep the AC forum lively. And for the starving mongers.Since the Subic / Olongapo forms seems deader than here, and AC girls are in Barretto now, I'll post a quick report here; feel free to cross-post or move, mods, if needed.
All of the hotels seem open for business, although supposedly at 50% occupancy for "social distancing" purposes (ha).
Go-Go bars currently open, going down the highway starting from Baloy Beach:
Rosie's. Opens at 4 pm, 6-7 girls, very friendly, with some very cute young stunners who are either cherry or hesitant to go out unless you 'woo' them for a couple of days (LOL). Double ladies drinks 300. Girls love to play pool for drinks. One of the bars that has Connect 4 now. This apparently has been imported from Thailand as a "bar game" in a couple of bars here. Ugh. Also Jenga.
Thumbstar. Nicely decorated bar on ground floor of hotel. Great promo. Buy-one / take-one for your first drink of the day, no matter the time (I. E. Don't have to make it for happy hour). Opens 2 pm, if not earlier. Girls currently imported from Q Bar in AC, some nice quality. Double LD is 300. ST is available upstairs (not sure price).
Alaska. Opens at 2 pm. I was never in there early, but by 7-8 pm the quality of girls was quite low, though friendly.
Voodoo. In the old Lollipop location. Good pool table. No bands anymore (COVID). Girls are very aggressive for drinks but may or may not go out depending on their mood (Subic seems to be much more permissive of girls saying no in the bar, which I like from an ethical standpoint, as long as you make it clear at the beginning). Bar fine 3000 I believe. Opens at 4.
Wet Spot / Green Room. Connected on the inside. Only go-go left in the large complex that used to have 4-5 bars (Bar Celona is upstairs but is just a sports bar with GROs). Promo here is that ladies drinks are all 180, even the bottle drinks, so it's cheaper for LDs than other places. Good number of girls here (in Wet Spot, Green Room is more sports bar), very aggressive waitresses / mamasans. BF also 3000 I believe. Opens at 4.
Hot Zone. My favorite bar at the moment. Bar well managed, girls are very friendly once you call them down. ST available upstairs for 1500, barfine 2500. Some cute ones here, and if you sit at the booth on the left as you enter, you can get the "VIP" service from some of the girls (bottom of the high table is curtained off) just by buying normal double ladies' drinks. Opens at 4.
Bottoms-Up / Crazy Horse. Bottoms Up is in the old Voodoo location I believe. Neither of these were any good the 2 times I stuck my head in, but I could have come at the wrong time. A buddy did say he found some girls there, so YMMV.
Coco Lips /50-50 Bar. These appeared closed every time I went by. May be done for.
Non Gogo Bars:
Whiskey Girl. This is in the old location of The Office. I didn't go in, but I was given to understand that it's just a "bar" with GROs, not a go-go. Could be mistaken. Most GROs are available for take-out in Subic though if you treat them right.
Adam's Sports Bar: same concept. Saw some cute GROs outside, but did not go in.
Bar Celona. On top of the old Wet Spot / Rum Jungle complex (3 F). 49 p beers from 2-5 pm which is a great deal. Best maintained pool table on the strip, and they do tournaments twice a week (Monday and Thursday I think). AC pool tables are still "not allowed" to operate per Mayor. Very friendly / funny bartender, with waitresses and GROs.
Cheap Charlies. Across the street from Bar Celona. Same concept, open to the air on a high (for Subic) floor. Nice places to spend the afternoon / early evenings if you're not on the beach or trying to get in to the gogo bars the minute they open.
Overall / additional thoughts:
- The lockdown in AC really seemed to help business in Subic. There were a LOT of AC mongers there every time I went there myself. Admittedly, none of us are tourists who spend like water, but it's keeping them going, and I have heard that some of the big players in AC have been visiting (I. E. Owner of ABC hotel, some younger rich guys who have big yacht parties in Subic with many girls, etc; you know, things I'm not invited to haha).
- Unlike AC where a number of hotels have gone out of business / put up for sale (Galaxy, Queens, America), I only saw one hotel in Subic closed down / for sale (Gum Leaves on the highway).
- Blue Rock floating bar is not operational; I'm not sure if it was running before, but it seems like it was damaged and is sitting out there roofless. Treasure Island's floating bar is open, but I've never been a fan of it.
- Shockingly the beach vendors are not overly pushy / desparate, and the jetski / boat operators are not overcharging either; they seem happy for any business.
- There were none of the tourists of particular nationalities who were destroying the laid back Subic vibe pre-COVID. You know, the ones who would go to the bars in large groups as soon as they opened, bar fined anyone halfway decent without buying drinks, and leaving nothing in their wake. I found this very refreshing.
- Prices have not jumped in the typical SE Asian "Business is down, we must charge more" mentality. Things have been stable, which is promising.
Angeles City observations:
I fear for the future of the AC scene. High Society is gone for good (building has been parceled up and demolition / construction ongoing). More and more bars are being bought up by Korean groups on Walking Street who are massively raising prices on drinks and bar fines. Back in January this year when the bars were open for a couple of months, the former Bunny Ranch bar (now a Korean bar, NB-1 I think) tried to charge me 220 pesos for a White Castle whisky (the local Filipino whiskey, which is 180-200 for the entire bottle at the grocery). Barfines at Korean bars are 4-5000 now, and you'd be super lucky if they were not starfish or runners, or both. Possible to get phone numbers and meet for sneak-out, but with the death of Hi-So, it's not as easy to pick up girls on their off-time anymore.
Wolfpack Group is still holding the fort as the last line of defense for Western-managed AC entertainment. Lollipop, Q Bar, Monsoon, Level 3, and Shooters were all open January-March. XS Bar is gone because Wolfpack took over the old Salambo / La Pasha site and renovated as "Avalon" and moved all the girls there. Owl's Nest (which has been there for decades and isn't part of any "group") opened in the same period with a very nice selection of girls. It's the last real "old-time" AC bar on Fields.
Everything else that was open (and may / may not reopen upon lifting of restrictions) is Korean. Baccara (in the old Bamboo / Cambodia bar) had some great talent (at 3500 barfine) for a while. Then they tried to open a bar in half of the old High Society building called Sensations, and was raided and shut down within a day because they tried to get away with nude dancing on stage. I've heard on the Bamboo Telegraph that the Korean owner had to pay a MASSIVE bribe to get out of jail / keep his businesses (we're talking potentially tens of millions of pesos).
Dollhouse Group bars have been closed since the bars first shut down in March 2020. Not sure of their future either. Club Asia, Pony Tails, and Crystal Palace were all shut down before the pandemic, only leaving Dollhouse and Atlantis remaining. From what I hear from my sources, the owner may be trying to get out of the bar business completely and focus on hotels (Score Birds and the ever-under-construction Palladium), since apparently he is making more profit by leasing his bar buildings to Koreans than running them himself.
Hope this keeps everyone interested hahaha. If you have any particular questions for the people here on the ground, as it were, I'll see if I can help. It's either surfing this board, drinking, or going back to Subic to keep me occupied!
Crazy Ami. Much appreciated, that is some super input. Sadly, by the time the rest of us mongers get there, it may be way out of date.
Crazy Ami, thanks for the great report. Way back when Subic was a great fun and relaxing place to visit. Here's hoping that's on the return.
At the barfines quoted, were the girls happy for an overnight LT or was it one and done? Admittedly a few years ago now but when I was there last many were reluctant to stay.
Thanks again. 👍.
Hot Zone. My favorite bar at the moment. Bar well managed, girls are very friendly once you call them down. ST available upstairs for 1500, barfine 2500. Some cute ones here, and if you sit at the booth on the left as you enter, you can get the "VIP" service from some of the girls (bottom of the high table is curtained off) just by buying normal double ladies' drinks. Opens at 4.
Great Post. Thanks a lot.
I love the curtained off tables. Reminds me of the hay days of AC when they used to service you right at bar and. The girl used to get loads of laughs and giggles from her colleagues when she went back to clean up.
Ooh. Those memories.
Thanks again for the update.
G.
Crazy Amy, great report. Thank you.Now it is clear that no body can predict the future profile of AC in the present scenario.
Crazy Ami, thanks for the great report. Way back when Subic was a great fun and relaxing place to visit. Here's hoping that's on the return.
At the barfines quoted, were the girls happy for an overnight LT or was it one and done? Admittedly a few years ago now but when I was there last many were reluctant to stay.
Thanks again. 👍.It's quite relaxing right now without the influx of massive amounts of tourists. :D I might go there again in a couple of weeks.
LT is actually a benefit of the midnight curfew. While the tanod (barangay patrols) and Pulis are a little more lenient if you're just going back to your hotel at 12:30 or 1, they set up checkpoints between Baretto and Subic City / Olongapo City, where a lot of the girls actually live; they can't get far after midnight. So if you LT a girl at 11:00, chances are she's stuck with you until morning.
But I haven't had a problem with LT. I just make sure to ask them before I spend the LT money (I don't mind buying drinks for conversation first), and generally the bars that offer ST understand that if you pay for LT you're expecting them to stay overnight. I think it all boils down to how decent you are to the girl; they seem to have a bit more freedom in Subic and it's more whether they like you or not rather than a particular girl is "always a runner. ".
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But I haven't had a problem with LT. I just make sure to ask them before I spend the LT money.Sure. I'd agree that there never were a lot of runners in subic and the girls who couldn't stay were always upfront about it.
Sounds like you are having fun👍.
So I decided to head down to Walking Street this evening for at least a drink and a nice dinner, and lo and behold. Bars were open with dancers!
Apparently the mayor (or his wallet) saw the light and allowed some bars to open with girls. Everything closes at 10 pm (Subic is still better!) but there are quite a number of bars open, including the Wolfpack Group bars and even some other smaller bars that were closed before.
List of bars I saw open tonight off the top of my head. Highlighting Wolfpack bars (my favorite) and Korean-run bars (higher prices for drinks but usually quite attractive girls; attitudes are much more hit or miss):
- Brown Sugar (now Korean-run).
- NB-1 (formerly Bunny Ranch, now Korean-run).
- Centauro (formerly Carousel. Now part of Wolfpack).
- Q Bar (Wolfpack).
- Owl's Nest.
- Gecko's.
- La Bamba (they called it "soft opening," no dancers, just waitresses).
- Avalon (Wolfpack).
- Legendz (formerly Kings Landing / Lancelot, Korean-run).
- Monsoon (formerly Typhoon. Wolfpack).
- Voodoo.
- Shooters (Wolfpack).
- Champagne.
- Bar Nana (Korean-run. Had a drink there, local drink prices are normal 120, but LD is 350 instead of standard 300. Didn't ask BF price).
- Leopard (Korean-run).
- Level 3 (formerly Golden Nile. Wolfpack).
- Arabesque (for a day, it was Sensations, before raided and closed for nudity. In half of former Hiso building. Korean-run).
- Baccara (formerly Bamboo / Cambodia. Korean-run).
- Giant (inside the little complex across from Paradise. Korean-run).
Did not ask BF prices anywhere. I was not expecting to see girls and was not in the mood / prepared haha. Sorry for the lack of intel.
Restaurants I saw open included:
- Margarita Station.
- Phillies.
- Envy.
- La Milieusese (or something; that's wrong, but it's French. Coffee shop bakery that a lot of women hang out in the tables in front and smoke shisha).
- Pizza in front of Carousel.
- Kokomoz.
- some small Korean place across from former Club Asia building.
- Korean restaurant in lobby of W Hotel Balibago.
- Paradise (formerly Bretto's, formerly Paradise before that).
- There's a new restaurant called Texas Smokehouse, in what used to be Genesis bar (and what even longer ago than that was Bourbon Street restaurant. Dating myself a bit). It's obviously Korean-run, but I tried it anyway as I'm a sucker for BBQ. Baby Back Ribs with all the side dishes (including "mush potato") were in the little metal Korean side dish bowls. Meat portion was a little small, but nice and soft, and sauce was decent and side dishes plentiful. 350 p promo for the meal.
Also including some pictures of the entrance to Walking Street and just inside Walking Street at 7 pm on a Friday. It's still a ghost town, but we're waking up again. Here's hoping!
So I decided to head down to Walking Street this evening for at least a drink and a nice dinner, and lo and behold. Bars were open with dancers!
Apparently the mayor (or his wallet) saw the light and allowed some bars to open with girls. Everything closes at 10 pm (Subic is still better!) but there are quite a number of bars open, including the Wolfpack Group bars and even some other smaller bars that were closed before.
Very exciting report man. We sense the horizon in the vicinity. Keep going.
Very exciting report man. We sense the horizon in the vicinity. Keep going.
My guess is that things will be open for another few weeks before infections start to rise in Pampanga again and they put the liquor / bar ban back in place. No idea when vaccinations will start here; the mayor's office has put up a survey for people to register online and have said they're doing a house to house barangay survey (they even said foreign residents would be included in the vaccinations), but in 3 weeks they have yet to reach Balibago, Malabanias, or Anunas (Walking Street, Perimeter, and Koreatown respectively).
We have door girls and everything outside in AC. Some of the bars take your temp, some make you fill out a "contact form", some spray you with alcohol, some do nothing. Once you get inside everything is just like it was, except for the occasional plastic on a seat highlighting "social distancing" which no-one follows. The contact form lists are hilarious, with names from the classic Ben Dover to Hugh G. Deek.
Bars are currently open from 1-10 pm on Walking Street due to curfew rules. Personally, I LOVE this schedule. I like heading out earlier and coming back home earlier. It's also a *great* advantage to get a morning sneak-out visit. Since girls have to get to work much earlier, they don't mind coming over to your place in the morning at say, 10-11 am for a short time before they head into work. Had a girl from a Korean bar visit me this morning.
Barfines are 3200 at Wolfpack bars, and either 3500 or 4000 at the Korean bars. Some of those bars have another system I found out about yesterday; 4000 for LT and 3000 for ST; I found this interesting; while I'm not a fan of the price, I do like the implied "guarantee" that the girl would stay the night. Not that I would pay that, though; all about getting their Facebook and inviting them over in the morning.
Wolfpack is actively advertising their Wolfpack Card (usually it's a word of mouth / ask the manager deal), which is a fantastic promo that pays for itself almost immediately. 500 p, two free local drinks, plus *all* of your drinks and ladies drinks are 20% off for the rest of the year. There's usually a limited amount issued each year, but I guess they feel like they're not going to have that problem this year.
There are quite a few more "local" (I. E. Pampanga) girls in the bars now; while many of them are quite attractive, it seems like most of the Visayan girls went back home during the last lockdown. I hope to see them start trickling back over the next couple of weeks.
Final thought (and small thread of hope for people outside the PI right now): the Covid Task Force here just released a memo today that said EVERY person coming into the country (currently only Filipinos and certain visa holders), regardless of visa / citizenship / vaccine status, MUST do 10 days in a quarantine facility (I. E. Specific hotel) plus 4 days of home quarantine. Previously it has been up to 7 days I think and you could leave as soon as you got a negative PCR test. Now you don't even get the PCR test until Day 7. It sounds onerous, BUT, it may be the start of a plan to slowly start opening up the country to tourists a la Thailand. If they can make sure that the system works with the current groups coming in, and infections don't start rising, they might start expanding it to selected amounts of tourists (especially if they can charge crazy money for the visa application). I think in the end it all boils down to what happens in India. They've already banned anyone coming in from India / Bangladesh / Nepal / Pakistan regardless of visa status while the variant is going nuts over there. If that variant spreads here, we'll be in for another year of lockdown at least.
Pussycat123
05-10-21, 06:25
Some encouraging signs about bars in AC. A few thoughts:
-They should consider letting American into Ph. Most of the US is getting vaccinated and Covid is almost over in the US now. Lets hope.
-Subic (Barrio Baretto): Sounds like the bar scene in Subic is not bad. I have to say though that the biggest challenge in Subic is not becoming roadkill as you cross that awful highway that goes right through the town. Imagine if Walking St in AC had a busy highway with traffic zipping along at 50 mph with no sidewalk running through it. That's Subic.
Some encouraging signs about bars in AC. A few thoughts:
-They should consider letting American into Ph. Most of the US is getting vaccinated and Covid is almost over in the US now. Lets hope.
-Subic (Barrio Baretto): Sounds like the bar scene in Subic is not bad. I have to say though that the biggest challenge in Subic is not becoming roadkill as you cross that awful highway that goes right through the town. Imagine if Walking St in AC had a busy highway with traffic zipping along at 50 mph with no sidewalk running through it. That's Subic.I agree re: letting people in. Especially since they're doing the mandatory 10-day facility-based + 4-day home-based quarantine for all arrivals. As I mentioned, I'm hoping it's a test run for starting to allow tourists in again. They need the money.
For Subic / Barretto, they actually expanded the highway. It's officially a 4-lane road now through the bar area. The funny thing is, they didn't take into account the power lines. The outer lane on the coast-side road actually has "temporary" power lines of wood stands in the middle of the lane, so cars can't use it; it allows for a much easier walking trip along the strip. But yes, still need to look both ways, and up and down, and sideways, and in your pockets, before trying to cross.
As I mentioned, I'm hoping it's a test run for starting to allow tourists in again. They need the money.
Maybe that's exactly the reason why they are not letting in tourists. They can't afford another explosion of virus numbers like India, overwhelming their Healthcare facilities and workers.
The daily covid new cases used to be below 5000 couple of months ago and before, but now it's 7000- 8000 after breaking the 10000 barrier few weeks ago.
The situation got worse, not better.
The anxiety in Durtete prompted him to order the arrest of people not properly wearing mask few days ago.
And with the virus variant causing havoc around SEA, I m not optimistic abt borders for tourists opening this year.
Thailand which was scheduled to open borders for tourist in July had just canceled due to increase in infections.
Wicked Roger
05-10-21, 22:20
Some encouraging signs about bars in AC. A few thoughts:
-They should consider letting American into Ph. Most of the US is getting vaccinated and Covid is almost over in the US now. Lets hope..No it is not and the statistics belie your claim. Vax rates are falling and many in what are called red states seems unable to comprehend the need for a vax sadly.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-57004926
See this article about how bad it really is. I know how bad is can be there so it is wishful thinking or you believe in Santa if you think the situation will change soon. I agree with Datiao FR. The medical system is overwhelmed and some are telling me it is worse than reported especially in the provinces. Pinoys are unable to self isolate for a number of reasons and love to go out mingle regardless of what the government says ('hard headed' is one description used by many pinay friends).
Do the math in the USA and read the stats. Yes the Philippines needs an economic boost but it will / may come at a price. Many thought the same and now suffering another more deadlier wave.
Best keep unload the blue balls elsewhere for now LOL.
WestCoast1
05-11-21, 05:24
No it is not and the statistics belie your claim. Vax rates are falling and many in what are called red states seems unable to comprehend the need for a vax sadly.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-57004926
Most of the US is getting vaccinated and Covid is almost over in the US now. Lets hope.Pics are from WR's BBC article and also my previous General Info post. Easily you can find recent articles from the last 2 weeks saying that the US will not reach herd immunity this year (or next), due mostly to vax hesitancy. Not sure how Covid is almost over in the US as the jab rate continues to dwindle. Here's another herd immunity article:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/05/us-herd-immunity-life-with-covid
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