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My brotha I have been looking for a place like this. But are you saying the handywork only goes for 10 minutes? I'm looking for a place ideally that does a long edging session.I am sure you can request a shorter massage time and longer jelipsum time.
My last night here. As usual I end my stay with proven performers. For me there is nothing worst than to leave with a couple new BF duds.
As I get older the recovery time takes longer. The first one performed very well just as expected. That was at noon. My second girl arrived at 3:00 and did an outstanding job. My third girl could not make it for my last minute call.
I was lusting for the second girl again and called her. She was cooking dinner for her kid and would get to my hotel around 8:00. She arrived on time. I wasn't sure if I could rise for the moment. Good thing I had taught her a little about how to do a Jelipsum massage. She slowly performed the Jelipsum and then a BJ. During the BJ she cups and massages my balls. That was the trick!
I rose to the occasion for the final good bye.
The new CRK terminal is nice and spacious. Looks like the same design as Cebu new terminal.
Quite new as few restaurants are there. IMO a little design flaw in the carpeted floors in checkin and other areas. Apparently the designer never rolled their luggage on carpet to checkin! Looks nice but another beautiful design over function!
Trevor2522
08-11-22, 13:41
I think you will find that many south east mongering destinations also provide one stop shopping with far better infrastructure, safer surroundings and far slimmer girls at very similar if not cheaper prices.Well said. Jakarta, Saigon, Phnom Penh, Bangkok and Pattaya offer much the same, with variations in environment. The English-speaking 'advantage' of Filipinas is a bit of a delusion.
Fastpiston
08-12-22, 01:53
Well said. Jakarta, Saigon, Phnom Penh, Bangkok and Pattaya offer much the same, with variations in environment. The English-speaking 'advantage' of Filipinas is a bit of a delusion.As regulars know, this is what I have been saying for a while. My view is that AC has deteriorated over the years. It used to be terrific but sadly no more. I suspect one prime reason is over paying tourists who dream being Mr. Big. As businesses say, charge what the market will bear. But this is not just about costs but also poor quality and bad attitudes. The town is also quite run down.
Yesterday was a strange day but cleared my mind on a number of things including that it's time for me to move on.
My first attempt was with a freelancer on PinaLove late afternoon that I messaged to come over. Her profile said she was 18, small spinner-her photos looked ok but a little bit unclear. We agreed on 2000 and she said I could do anything I wanted. She was at my hotel in about an hour, but there was trouble at the desk. Her ID and vaccine card did not match, and then she tried to bring up another vaccine card on her phone and my concierge lady quizzed her about the info on it and she gave the wrong answers regarding birthday, etc. I was just sitting on a couch in the lobby the whole time watching this whole thing go down. The girl's body looked OK from a distance, but her mask was on and I asked her to pull it down. Ouch. Face did not look good at all- sort of matched the profile but that's some serious angles and doctoring. A closer examination of the body revealed post baby saggy tits and other baby damage. Was providence stepping in to help me out? The end result was yes as my concierge ultimately was having none of this and sent the fugly girl on her way despondent. She sent me a few begging desperate messages a few minutes later saying we could go to a short time hotel and I could take her "anal virgin" along with an unpalatable photo of her naked body. I just politely declined and waited it out until she left the area. Phew, dodged a bullet.
Later in the night I decided to crawl around the GoGo Bars with the option if not intent of taking a lady. I saw a more diverse mongering crowd than the weekend crowd, but again the talent was not there. I had drinks with about 5 ladies, and all but one expressed they would be open to short time from 3500-4000 pesos, but the important detail is that except for one they didn't seem excited or eager about the possibility of it. I'm not going to take a girl who's not DTF and is going to perform poorly. By the time I got to the last girl who was excited, grabbing my dick, etc- my money was depleted- so the night amounted to nothing but a bunch of expensive drinks and boring conversations with a handful of girls. They were bangable but not for 3500 pesos. I have to be honest, the whole process here is a drag and it was at this point I decided that Angeles is just not working for me. Let me say one time I'm not a bad looking dude- very fit in my mid forties- the issue is not that I'm a total revolting slob. Aside from the fact that Asian women generally aren't into bearded men, there is nothing that should give these girls hesitation about going with me for boom boom. I got plenty of pussy in Pattaya and girls there were happy to take my business.One can still get BBFS and CIP in the Philippines.
What destination do you think is best for BBFS CIP?
Expat American
08-13-22, 07:38
One can still get BBFS and CIP in the Philippines.
What destination do you think is best for BBFS CIP?Well its available almost everywhere but in Philippines due the influence of the Catholic Church, BBFS is the default. The girls don't carry condoms and many non hookers have never even seen one. You can get it in Thailand and Indonesia as well bit it can be hit or miss. There are many clubs in Germany where it is the standard offering as well. But most anywhere if you have a regular thing with a girl it will almost always go to BBFS.
Had a great time in my 4 days at Orchid Inn and 2 days at Treasure Island in Subic. Regarding the former I saw my main squeeze from Vikings who is pretty, slim and stacked but now wants 4 K even on her day off. Plus she doesn't like me to take pics or vids. Bummer. Still a good fuck, tho. So, I only saw her once and replaced her with another 22 year old little cutie with nice tits and small frame who I saw three times because her blow job skills are top notch plus she swallows and likes being filmed. 1500 short time plus 300 p tip and she was a happy little hooker. Works for a hole-in-the-wall bar across from Margarita Station near Orchid Inn. I will definitely see her every time I return to AC. Regarding the latter, Subic, my other main squeeze was a no-show so I got a referral from a trike driver for a 26 year old with ok tits, ok body and pretty face who spent the night for 5 K. Yikes - plus 2 k for her girlfriend and they took turns on me. They were fine. Didn't really do the bar scene too much in either location. But I'm sure the girls of Voodoo in Subic will blow you in the back for 3 k if you want. Any questions PM me. DG, wish I would of had a beer with you if our schedules coincided. Next time, buddy. Oh also had a layover in Cebu and always visit Tenderbody Massage across from Appleton Hotel in Mactan which is an inexpensive ok place to stay. Tenderbody does not do anything sexual but if you just want a great massage with no happy ending ask for Rozelle. She will give you an amazing 90 minute massage for 450 p. Cheers.
Big Kahuna
08-17-22, 22:09
Post Covid.
They suck.
No robes, no room slippers, no personal hygiene amenities and Luke warm water for shower.
Stay away from this place.
AsianPursuits
08-17-22, 22:53
Malls are not a easy place to meet girls. If there are they are usually well seasoned. Regular girls keep to themselves.Malls in Manila, Makati & Cebu I have had success. I personally have never had luck in SM Clark.
I have met one girl who was onnher lunch break sitting and having her packed lunch at the food court in SM Clark. We agreed to meet in the evening after her shift. But I was never hunting in the malls. Sometimes it just happens. And she was a great lay. She was approached by several bars for work but didn't want to get into that even though the pay was almost 50% more. She was working in the shoe store. I treated her to shopping at ayala next morning. She didn't want to let go of me. Got her groceries as she was adamant she will not take money. Even when I tried to stuff 3 k into her bag. She would return it to me. I ended up treating her about 5-6 k worth of shopping.
Sometimes you do hit a diamond in the malls. But never go looking for them.
Enjoy.
G.
Malls in Manila, Makati & Cebu I have had success. I personally have never had luck in SM Clark.
How do you pick up girls at the mall? Do you wait to make eye contact with a girl you like and go up and start talking? I want to try this when I arrive in the Philippines because I would love to meet a non pro. Do you wait till she gives you a second look or smirk / smile?
Member #4794
08-22-22, 17:55
How do you pick up girls at the mall? Do you wait to make eye contact with a girl you like and go up and start talking? I want to try this when I arrive in the Philippines because I would love to meet a non pro. Do you wait till she gives you a second look or smirk / smile?Unless you are particularly handsome and are able to elicit women hitting on you and have a preexisting pick up skill set I say its a hard pass they just passed Republic Act No. 11313, its called the Bawal Bastos Act and it was made to prohibit this very thing. Since your questions are very rudimentary stick to the bars and bar fines imo.
https://pcw.gov.ph/republic-act-no-11313-safe-spaces-act-bawal-bastos-law/#text=The%20 first%20 law%20 to%20 penalize, offender%20 and%20 the%20 offended%20 party.
Kiev Freak
08-22-22, 19:36
Unless you are particularly handsome and are able to elicit women hitting on you and have a preexisting pick up skill set I say its a hard pass they just passed Republic Act No. 11313, its called the Bawal Bastos Act and it was made to prohibit this very thing. Since your questions are very rudimentary stick to the bars and bar fines imo.
https://pcw.gov.ph/republic-act-no-11313-safe-spaces-act-bawal-bastos-law/#text=The%20 first%20 law%20 to%20 penalize, offender%20 and%20 the%20 offended%20 party.
I tried it in manila with success. I carry a small paper written my phone number and name on it and I give it to girls I do it politely with a smile. Another way, I just ask a location of nearest Starbucks and then I offer her to go together. It is very easy to pick up girls in malls. In my experience, you don't need to be a young brad Pitt. I'm 40 , and 130 kg big guy. It works for me. I don't say I can pick up anyone I like, but if I try it with 10 girls, it works with 3-4 of them.
Kiev Freak
08-22-22, 19:49
One can still get BBFS and CIP in the Philippines.
What destination do you think is best for BBFS CIP?PH is the best destination for GFE, BBFS and CIP. I lived in Thailand 4 years and my experience is very bad. But PH really works for me. I'm in PH for 3 months, I rarely barfine and mostly go with online semipros or freebies. In Thailand you have to confirm everything before going home but in PH I never talked sex upfront. BBFS is norm here. Mostly will do CIM and swallow. DFK also norm.
Kiev Freak
08-22-22, 19:54
Well said. Jakarta, Saigon, Phnom Penh, Bangkok and Pattaya offer much the same, with variations in environment. The English-speaking 'advantage' of Filipinas is a bit of a delusion.In PP, Bangkok and pattaya, difficult to find girls for long time. Most will go for short time only. No kissing with Khmer girls. It seems although it unwritten This is their rule. Also for thai and Vietnam girls, being / seing with a foreigner is downgrade their social level, because their piers will think she may into p2 p scene. But in PH, when your young PH girl has a foreigner, she upgrade her social status. YMMV, but PH works for me better than Cambodia and Thailand. I have no experience in Jakarta. And really ou can't go wrong with LBFM. Sex is their favourite sport and they really enjoy sex and foreigners.
PH is the best destination for GFE, BBFS and CIP. I lived in Thailand 4 years and my experience is very bad. But PH really works for me. I'm in PH for 3 months, I rarely barfine and mostly go with online semipros or freebies. In Thailand you have to confirm everything before going home but in PH I never talked sex upfront. BBFS is norm here. Mostly will do CIM and swallow. DFK also norm.I just come back Europe after 1 month in Thailand and I can say I always bareback ladies in Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket! They all accept! Just some times need to pay little bit more.
AsianPursuits
08-22-22, 22:52
Sometimes you do hit a diamond in the malls. But never go looking for them.
Thanks for the feedback on this one in SM Clark. I will take a more open approach on my next visit but not rely on my success.
Mr Enternational
08-23-22, 00:09
PH is the best destination for GFE, BBFS and CIP. I lived in Thailand 4 years and my experience is very bad. In Thailand you have to confirm everything before going home but in PH I never talked sex upfront. BBFS is norm here.
In PP, Bangkok and pattaya, difficult to find girls for long time. Most will go for short time only.Goes to show YMMV. Another poster, ET, has lived in Thailand a long time and says the same as you. I have lived in Pattaya 14 years and my experience is more along the lines of a brand new poster whose first time it was to Thailand recently. What me and him have in common is that we don't go looking for it, it is just always there. Whereas ET speaks the same as you; he confirms everything before taking the chick. I pretty much only do long time unless I get a chick in the day and I have something to do later on. Never a problem getting LT chicks in Pattaya.
All of them voluntarily bareback (not what I was seeking) & GFE. All stayed 3 4 hrs even though I paid for ST only.
In PP, Bangkok and pattaya, difficult to find girls for long time. Most will go for short time only. No kissing with Khmer girls. It seems although it unwritten This is their rule. Also for Thai and Vietnam girls, being / seing with a foreigner is downgrade their social level, because their piers will think she may into P2P scene. But in PH, when your young PH girl has a foreigner, she upgrade her social status. YMMV, but PH works for me better than Cambodia and Thailand. I have no experience in Jakarta. And really ou can't go wrong with LBFM. Sex is their favourite sport and they really enjoy sex and foreigners.I agree, most girls in Pattaya and Bangkok only want short time, they don't want to be fucked non stop by a guy all night. But they have no problem walking around with you, going to the beach and the mall because their family and friends don't live there. You get out of the tourist zones, then they'll get looked at. I don't agree that the Philippines is an exception, I was told flat out several times the girl wouldn't meet me for coffee because it would look like she was having sex for money. There are exceptions for the rule though. Girls who've been seen out and about with an older guy before won't care what others say, money is more important than the words of a stranger.
Houston Player
08-23-22, 05:03
I just come back Europe after 1 month in Thailand and I can say I always bareback ladies in Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket! They all accept! Just some times need to pay little bit more.Stop spreading these lies. BBFS is available in Thailand but not nearly as accessible or easy as you say.
DzikaBomba
08-23-22, 06:04
PH is the best destination for GFE, BBFS and CIP. I lived in Thailand 4 years and my experience is very bad. But PH really works for me. I'm in PH for 3 months, I rarely barfine and mostly go with online semipros or freebies. In Thailand you have to confirm everything before going home but in PH I never talked sex upfront. BBFS is norm here. Mostly will do CIM and swallow. DFK also norm.PH is ok for that. Not more. Swallowing and DFK is for sure not the norm. It looks like you haven't seen much.
I first noticed what GFE means after I started going to africa.
Stop spreading these lies. BBFS is available in Thailand but not nearly as accessible or easy as you say.The original poster has a fetish for BBFS / CIP which is, according to himself, coupled with a unique talent to achieve this everywhere he goes.
Kiev Freak
08-23-22, 16:02
Stop spreading these lies. BBFS is available in Thailand but not nearly as accessible or easy as you say.I agree with that. BB available in Thailand, but you have to confirm it before barfine if you deal with FL or bar girls. If you are into freebies, yes, BB is easy in Thailand,too. The question is, how easy to get freebies ?
Pinays much more easier than Thais.
Good luck if someone get reply from thai girls during online chat with more than 2 words. They will reply mostly ok , LT , no, yes and so on. Thai girls more cold hearted and money oriented while pinays are into more GFE and BBFS. But pinays love drama more than Thais. This is my experience. As i said , YMMV.
But in PH, BB is normal because of Catholic church. Even girls will be offended if you offer to use condom.
There is another problem with pinays , they dont go shower before sex. I tried everything. Very difficult to send them to shower. Mostly their pussy stinks. Thais much more cleaner and always go shower before boom boom, you even dont need to ask it.
In another forum , a guy recommended me to buy expensive shower gels and show her and ask if she wants to try. I did so , and it worked with some pinays really.
Wicked Roger
08-23-22, 19:47
There is another problem with pinays , they dont go shower before sex. I tried everything. Very difficult to send them to shower. Mostly their pussy stinks. Thais much more cleaner and always go shower before boom boom, you even dont need to ask it.
In another forum , a guy recommended me to buy expensive shower gels and show her and ask if she wants to try. I did so , and it worked with some pinays really.Not sure what standard of pinays you like to be with or where they come from but that has never been a problem for me. In fact those I am with are super hygienic so perhaps you need to find a better class of pinay? Or say no shower no money? If ever I have a smelly pussy I just ask them nicely to go home.
Simple really.
WestCoast1
08-24-22, 02:07
There is another problem with pinays , they dont go shower before sex. I tried everything. Very difficult to send them to shower. Mostly their pussy stinks. Thais much more cleaner and always go shower before boom boom, you even dont need to ask it.
In another forum , a guy recommended me to buy expensive shower gels and show her and ask if she wants to try. I did so , and it worked with some pinays really.True.
But, topic covered more than once, previously. Send her away if you like, but there may be problems with that: Smelly or not, if you didn't inspect it before asking her to your place (and, you didn't), she -- or her employer -- might reasonably expect some compensation for her travel time. What, did you think she is aware that her poon smelled and she would warn you in advance of it?
And there is a simple fix, already covered:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=2704929&viewfull=1#post2704929
Please pay attention.
There is another problem with pinays , they dont go shower before sex. I tried everything. Very difficult to send them to shower. Mostly their pussy stinks. Thais much more cleaner and always go shower before boom boom, you even dont need to ask it.
In another forum , a guy recommended me to buy expensive shower gels and show her and ask if she wants to try. I did so , and it worked with some pinays really.Where are you getting your girls from, the rice fields? I have never had a Filipina that didn't shower beforehand. Go to Mexico if you want unwashed vaginas.
Where are you getting your girls from, the rice fields? I have never had a Filipina that didn't shower beforehand. Go to Mexico if you want unwashed vaginas.You should stop and think about where these girls come from before you attack another poster. Sure your girls might take showers before sex, they are most likely well versed in the routine having had hundreds of customers. But if you grab a girl off a dating site you just don't know what your going to get. Got a chat from one of my girls "I am downstairs, come and get me" so I put on my shoes thinking the guard won't let her past to come up to my room. I go down the elevator and she's standing right there. Get her on the elevator and she says "I don't know how to use elevator". So the question then is has she ever seen a real shower? As I'm typing this out I honestly don't think she's ever taken a shower here, ohhh she's used the water bucket and spigot but never the shower.
Where are you getting your girls from, the rice fields? I have never had a Filipina that didn't shower beforehand. Go to Mexico if you want unwashed vaginas.All Philippine girls take a shower before sex and many times after sex also. Yes, some do have some stench even after shower. That is the time to cut loose. It usually means some sort Ipoh infection.
FuriousGeorge
08-24-22, 08:53
Got to agree. I take the girl back from the bar or the club and we jump in the shower together. Helps break the ice. An odor is generally related to a bacterial infection, not hygiene. That being said I've never detected an odor from a Pinay bargirl but about half of the white girls in LA have something going on down there. Not that it stops me.
Where are you getting your girls from, the rice fields? I have never had a Filipina that didn't shower beforehand. Go to Mexico if you want unwashed vaginas.
WestCoast1
08-24-22, 12:21
Got to agree. I take the girl back from the bar or the club and we jump in the shower together. Helps break the ice. An odor is generally related to a bacterial infection, not hygiene. That being said I've never detected an odor from a Pinay bargirl but about half of the white girls in LA have something going on down there. Not that it stops me.Good to point out. Have had girls who didn't pass the sniff test in every country.
Every girl. All of them. Get that kit off of her and get her into the shower with me. Do not turn on the shower. Hand her the probe / insertion end of the douchebag and have her insert it. New girls might be a bit befudled at first. Open the water valve and let her see it lightly sprays water first. Once inserted, let it run until you see water running down her leg for 5 seconds. Remove, close the water valve, be done. I usually then rinse in the shower with the girl.
I have been using this for 6+ years. Never has a girl balked. Bemused at first maybe. Into the half-gallon of water I put a spoonful of mouthwash -- you get a minty-fresh kiss later! Once she does this once, they do this themselves as they walk in the door. Some girls have asked for one at home. Many also use it before they depart, on the way back to their boyfie.
Now to KF's thoughts about unhygenic. A number of girls over the years have jumped off my bed and put on her kit without bothering to clean herself, with my seed oozing inside of her. Off to the boyfie (or whatever). She cleaned it at the start for me, but not her SO. Yuck! Other girls have, after cleaning with it and then banging me (twice), put some toothpaste on her finger and rub it around her poonana. Sweetie what are you doing? "So my boyfriend won't know what I done". You could have cleaned much deeper with the water bottle. "Nah". Puts on her pants and walks out.
Related story coming later. I love Philippines!
Mr Enternational
08-24-22, 15:03
Thais much more cleaner and always go shower before boom boom, you even dont need to ask it.Thai chicks are too damn clean. I have had several chicks get up and go take a shower in the middle of fucking because they got too wet. No idea why they think their pussy is supposed to be dry.
Trevor2522
08-24-22, 18:06
Douchebags.An alternative to mouthwash in your vaginal douches https://www.mon-pharmacien-conseil.com/en/drugs/5258-betadine-vaginal-solution-10-125-ml.html.
This guy claims to apply regular Betadine (Iodine) antiseptic liquid (to his member) after sex and not experience STDs https://asiansexdiary.com/category/diary/.
STDs can be self-treated with oral MMS solution. Just need sodium chlorite (Na.Cl.O2 solution or flakes) and activate with lime juice to create chlorine dioxide (Cl.O2; not chlorine gas). Very unpleasant taste but it works quickly and safely; may be some nausea. I have taken it myself for a general detox. https://mmstestimonials.co/uti-urinary-tract-infection/
https://mmsforum.io/goto/mms/35345-where-to-buy-in-the-philippines
PedroMorales
08-24-22, 18:34
Hey Trevor.
[Deleted by Admin]ut that is no reason to come about with your home remedies for STIs. The Angeles hospital is good and cheap and Angeles is a hothouse for all kinds of STIs. You name it, they have it. Anyone who gets SDTIs should hot foot it up to where they can be cured and should ignore Scientologists, Mormons and other American crackheads unless they want a terrible, lingering death.
An alternative to mouthwash in your vaginal douches https://www.mon-pharmacien-conseil.com/en/drugs/5258-betadine-vaginal-solution-10-125-ml.html.
This guy claims to apply regular Betadine (Iodine) antiseptic liquid (to his member) after sex and not experience STDs https://asiansexdiary.com/category/diary/.
STDs can be self-treated with oral MMS solution. Just need sodium chlorite (Na.Cl.O2 solution or flakes) and activate with lime juice to create chlorine dioxide (Cl.O2; not chlorine gas). Very unpleasant taste but it works quickly and safely; may be some nausea. I have taken it myself for a general detox. https://mmstestimonials.co/uti-urinary-tract-infection/
https://mmsforum.io/goto/mms/35345-where-to-buy-in-the-philippines
Steve Nash
08-24-22, 19:03
Good to point out. Have had girls who didn't pass the sniff test in every country.
Every girl. All of them. Get that kit off of her and get her into the shower with me. Do not turn on the shower. Hand her the probe / insertion end of the douchebag and have her insert it. New girls might be a bit befudled at first. Open the water valve and let her see it lightly sprays water first. Once inserted, let it run until you see water running down her leg for 5 seconds. Remove, close the water valve, be done. I usually then rinse in the shower with the girl.
I have been using this for 6+ years. Never has a girl balked. Bemused at first maybe. Into the half-gallon of water I put a spoonful of mouthwash -- you get a minty-fresh kiss later! Once she does this once, they do this themselves as they walk in the door. Some girls have asked for one at home. Many also use it before they depart, on the way back to their boyfie.
Now to KF's thoughts about unhygenic. A number of girls over the years have jumped off my bed and put on her kit without bothering to clean herself, with my seed oozing inside of her. Off to the boyfie (or whatever). She cleaned it at the start for me, but not her SO. Yuck! Other girls have, after cleaning with it and then banging me (twice), put some toothpaste on her finger and rub it around her poonana. Sweetie what are you doing? "So my boyfriend won't know what I done". You could have cleaned much deeper with the water bottle. "Nah". Puts on her pants and walks out.
Related story coming later. I love Philippines!That's very gross if they don't clean up after cuming inside her. I had very few not cleaning themselves up, but then when I warn them that my sperm will come out when they are in the street or in the jeepney they go and take a shower, except one of them who later on text me: You were right, you cum so much, and I was dropping your sperm in the mall and probably in the jeepney, LOL.
I would say about 95% of girls will either shower or wash their pussy after sex.
I had a girl back on January who confess to me (after I told her that I had a living partner and a baby) that she has a filipino boyfriend (they just started dating a month ago so not official BF yet) who was waiting for her in the same hotel in another room (one floor downstairs). They were suppose to go to another hotel later but when she found out that I only payed 800 php for the night, she asked him to come there, anyways after we had sex she took a shower (luckily), and went to meet his Filipino BF after I told her that I have to leave.
I was abit skeptical at first and I thought maybe her and her BF might rob me outside, but that wasn't the case, the only thing was that she text me many times around 1 and 2 am, later she told me she was bored with her BF and wanted to come to my room, good thing she didn't come and knock my door because I was with another date that time. She was cool and drama free, I got lucky I guess.
Old And Ugly
08-27-22, 22:19
Just returned from a tour of duty in Angeles city, after 2 year pause, here is the report:
Bar fines: 4 k and up, I had one time 3 k but I forgot where (maybe it was insomnia).
Even if is long time most girls come up with some excuse to go after few hours.
Lady drinks 300 and up.
Prices in restaurants double than before.
Full of young good looking Koreans, and old Indians.
The ladyboys have multiplied.
1/3 of the bars are closed.
Masks mandatory on the street (I didn't wear one like many others) - fine is 1000 p.
Mask check points at all entrances to walking street.
The corona circus wagon patrols the street once in a while, with the flashlights on, ready to collect the corpses.
Most bars are converted to Korean utopia with glass, and neon.
Some of the Korean bars have the girls fully dressed in fancy gala attire.
In some of the Korean bars the girls don't even pay attention to other than Koreans customers, even if you're the only one in there.
Score birds swimsuit competition won't allow cameras anymore.
The street is full of scumbags filming everybody.
In some bars girls have only tape over the bare tits.
In royal Amsterdam hotel, the girls are required to present ID an vax card, no exceptions. I don't know about the other hotels.
Lots of gorgeous girls and lots of fat ones, not much in between.
The girls I had were super clean (and I had lots of them).
The ATM's will run out of cash over the weekend.
Getting in the country, is a major pain, I flew in via Seoul, and the Koreans checked my vax papers 3 separate times only for the transit.
The whole Asian continent still mesmerised by the andromeda strain hoax.
And that's all that comes to mind right now.
Long, difficult flight, but I'm already looking for airfare to go back, it's more addictive than heroin.
Member #4794
08-29-22, 05:49
In royal Amsterdam hotel, the girls are required to present ID an vax card, no exceptions. I don't know about the other hotels.
In its current state I would not recommend royal amsterdam. Score birds and Central Park Tower don't do that nonsense and I'm sure the rest also don't check for this. They have taken it upon them selves to become an extension of the NBI and will securitize a valid vaccine card. Very disappointing as this was one of my favorite hotels. I guess this is why they are trying to sell the place?
The street is full of scumbags filming everybody. This is the worst part about living here. Everything that happens is now on Youtube. There is a law in the PH that prohibits filming anyone without permission but I have never seen it enforced. Pretty much all of the Vloggers in AC are a lifeform below that of bacteria. Scumbags with clickbait titles to get views. Don't care about anything but "Like and Subscribe to my channel. ".
Expat American
08-30-22, 08:16
This is the worst part about living here. Everything that happens is now on Youtube. There is a law in the PH that prohibits filming anyone without permission but I have never seen it enforced. Pretty much all of the Vloggers in AC are a lifeform below that of bacteria. Scumbags with clickbait titles to get views. Don't care about anything but "Like and Subscribe to my channel. ".The typical AC expat is a broke long term sex tourist living on a meager social security check desperately trying to scrounge some extra cash to pay for hookers. Youtube is one of those ways. They sell the dream to other sad sacks sitting in their mothers basement dreaming of LBFMs. LOL.
PedroMorales
08-30-22, 09:19
This is the worst part about living here. Everything that happens is now on Youtube. There is a law in the PH that prohibits filming anyone without permission but I have never seen it enforced. Pretty much all of the Vloggers in AC are a lifeform below that of bacteria. Scumbags with clickbait titles to get views. Don't care about anything but "Like and Subscribe to my channel. ".But there is nothing to see in Angeles. It is not exactly London or Rome. Such videos were useful during Covid to get a feel for the place. Some vloggers are good. I would recommend Soft White Underbelly who interviews all kinds of marginalised Americans. He is a talented guy and a much better interviewer than any mainstream guy. Other vloggers are addictive in their niche areas and cooks and so on can have huge followings. But just walking around a ramshackle town and telling us what 1000000 other videos told us. To be fair, it is a global blight and universities even have courses now on how to be a social influencer.
I think good videos could be done in Angeles by a professional sitting down and interviewing "stakeholders" but such a star would go to greener pastures. The ex military expats will probably hang in for another few years but their days are numbered in all ways.
The typical AC expat is a broke long term sex tourist living on a meager social security check desperately trying to scrounge some extra cash to pay for hookers. Youtube is one of those ways. They sell the dream to other sad sacks sitting in their mothers basement dreaming of LBFMs. LOL.Yes you are right even though many are not so broke and looking to enhance their income by posting clickbait titles on their boring videos. There have been a lot of issues with these vloggers and I am surprised that the local police hasn't stepped in. I won't call out the scumbags but have personally seen many of these vermin in action. Lower on the scale of humanity than rats. They will lie, hide, bribe, do anything to be able to say "subscribe to my channel. " You haven't any idea how low some of these rodents will stoop. Well below the level of a cockroach. If you want to learn about the Philippines stay off of YouTube.
During the pandemic when everything was open to 30% capacity with social distancing required there was one asshole that brought a group to a bar with a live band. He asked the manager (that I know very well and his wife) if he could film the band but he promised he would not post it. The manager agreed and this asshole went live on YouTube with a big party of people in your face. The next day the Barangay went to the bar and closed them down for 2 weeks and as well prohibited any other bar from having live music for 6 weeks. So many locals lost their meager salary for 2-6 weeks but this vlogger asshole got his YouTube views. He is no longer allowed in any Barretto bars and has since moved his punk ass to Angeles City. So if you meet a guy that tells you he is a vlogger the best thing you can do is ........... Not a good answer.
Old And Ugly
08-30-22, 12:47
In its current state I would not recommend royal amsterdam. Score birds and Central Park Tower don't do that nonsense and I'm sure the rest also don't check for this. They have taken it upon them selves to become an extension of the NBI and will securitize a valid vaccine card. Very disappointing as this was one of my favorite hotels. I guess this is why they are trying to sell the place?Royal amsterdam has the best location, and most important: best mattresses, no bouncing. I did not see many guests, the place looks haunted from outside, but once in, is very roomy, cozy and most important. Super clean. I think the price is kind of high: 2500 p / night compared to the other hotels, and maybe that's the reason it is for sale, for me the location was very important.
The staff is very friendly, but overzealous in finding discrepancies in the vax documents provided by the girls, probably a management thing, who knows maybe the owner has the andromeda strain syndrome still attached to the brain. Anyway, from the army of girls that visited my room, only one was not allowed to enter, the pic of the vax on her phone was blurry, I think they are all vaccinated, or have some fake certificate.
It is amazing how the whole asian continent (except vietnam) is still under the mind control of the people that destroyed the world, with the andromeda strain hoax.
WestCoast1
08-30-22, 18:49
It is amazing how the whole asian continent (except vietnam) is still under the mind control of the people that destroyed the world, with the andromeda strain hoax.As a side note, I departed a coffee shop today and forgot to pick up my face mask. I walked the half KM back to my residence without even thinking about not having it (refreshing actually). However the guard stopped me at the entrance. "Sir Westy where is your mask?" That was my realization that I didn't have it with me. I explained that I left it in a coffee shop. He kept me at the door and sent another guard to the front desk and found a fresh one for me. They absolutely will not allow anyone to go in still without a mask and they are still temp-checking (NCR).
Member #4794
08-30-22, 19:05
Royal amsterdam has the best location, and most important: best mattresses, no bouncing.The beds are VERY hard might as well be sleeping on a wooden box they are akin to old style Chinese homes beds that's the thing I like the least about it, I like the place because of the suite on the top floor and you are right the location is awesome.
I personally won't be booking a reservation unless they stop that nonsense vaccine card scrutiny, if they don't want their suite booked that's their problem, good thing about AC is so many other reasonable options only thing is I wish Grand Central would reopen.
...good thing about AC is so many other reasonable options only thing is I wish Grand Central would reopen.The Grand was great. Fantastic location, literally next door to the old High Society yet the rooms were well insulated for sound and quite quiet. Huge breakfasts. Very easy for outcall girls to find and obviously totally Girl Friendly. For less than $50 you couldn't go wrong.
Do any locals have an update? Is it gone forever or just remodelling?
....They absolutely will not allow anyone to go in still without a mask and they are still temp-checking (NCR).I'm not one for conspiracy theories about COVID being a proxy for alien mind control but there are clearly a lot of vested interests in keeping checks, conditions, PPE, travel blocks etc etc in place.
"Have you met my brother? He runs a consultancy facilitating import approvals for face masks. Perhaps you should speak to him before we decide on approved brands and models. ".
FuriousGeorge
08-30-22, 21:01
AC is for the most part, much more relaxed on the mask thing. Almost none of the staff at Central Park was wearing them and certainly not the doorman. This guy gives a tour of One Euphoria (pretty nice actually) and you can see the staff isn't wearing them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JdqZd4N0_E
As a side note, I departed a coffee shop today and forgot to pick up my face mask. I walked the half KM back to my residence without even thinking about not having it (refreshing actually). However the guard stopped me at the entrance. "Sir Westy where is your mask?" That was my realization that I didn't have it with me. I explained that I left it in a coffee shop. He kept me at the door and sent another guard to the front desk and found a fresh one for me. They absolutely will not allow anyone to go in still without a mask and they are still temp-checking (NCR).
WestCoast1
08-31-22, 03:32
He kept me at the door and sent another guard to the front desk and found a fresh one for me. They absolutely will not allow anyone to go in still without a mask and they are still temp-checking (NCR).
AC is for the most part, much more relaxed on the mask thing. Almost none of the staff at Central Park was wearing them and certainly not the doorman. This guy gives a tour of One Euphoria (pretty nice actually) and you can see the staff isn't wearing them.My recommendation to the warriors continues to be to get directly to AC.
To wit. I live in an upscale place in Makati. Without giving away too much, there are 4 similar upscale Hi-rise residences within 2 blocks, to also include another coming online soon and a another being built next door, and a large Hi-rise new professional building (call centers) next door on the other side. Masks are required to enter all of them (only employees and guests can enter obviously), are required of all employees while inside of all of those buildings, and at least 3 of them temp-check. Nobody inside the lobby in any of them is not wearing a mask. Masks are required on the street. There is a park area across the street with shade and places to sit / relax, you will see people there from sunup to midnight (or later). Even outdoors (and some people are sitting alone), nobody takes off a mask (still required in public). There are 2-4 door guards on duty at all of the places I just mentioned, fully masked, 24 hours. Have seen them stop persons such as myself for no mask, and also a resident who lived in one for not having shoes on his feet.
Almost forgot to mention social distancing. In my past 3 residences they are still sticking to no more than 4 people on an elevator (also must be masked, they use CCTV to watch and remind folk).
If this kind of thing (or getting used to this kind of thing) is not your kind of thing, then yes, go to AC. Its still an ingrained way of life in the NCR. AC appears to be a refreshing, pleasant bubble. Get your rocks off.
Expat American
08-31-22, 04:15
My recommendation to the warriors continues to be to get directly to AC.
To wit. I live in an upscale place in Makati. Without giving away too much, there are 4 similar upscale Hi-rise residences within 2 blocks, to also include another coming online soon and a another being built next door, and a large Hi-rise new professional building (call centers) next door on the other side. Masks are required to enter all of them (only employees and guests can enter obviously), are required of all employees while inside of all of those buildings, and at least 3 of them temp-check. Nobody inside the lobby in any of them is not wearing a mask. Masks are required on the street. There is a park area across the street with shade and places to sit / relax, you will see people there from sunup to midnight (or later). Even outdoors (and some people are sitting alone), nobody takes off a mask (still required in public). There are 2-4 door guards on duty at all of the places I just mentioned, fully masked, 24 hours. Have seen them stop persons such as myself for no mask, and also a resident who lived in one for not having shoes on his feet.
Almost forgot to mention social distancing. In my past 3 residences they are still sticking to no more than 4 people on an elevator (also must be masked, they use CCTV to watch and remind folk).
If this kind of thing (or getting used to this kind of thing) is not your kind of thing, then yes, go to AC. Its still an ingrained way of life in the NCR. AC appears to be a refreshing, pleasant bubble. Get your rocks off.Not to stir the mask debate but even here in highly controlled and conservative Singapore, they finally removed mask requirements except on buses, trains and MRTs and hospitals. Still about 50% of the people are still wearing masks (which is totally fine). In countries like Philippines there are always some ulterior motives behind policies. There is a lot of money in Covid restrictions and now has little to do with public health. There was a time masks were necessary. But I think that time has passed.
Not to stir the mask debate but even here in highly controlled and conservative Singapore, they finally removed mask requirements except on buses, trains and MRTs and hospitals. Still about 50% of the people are still wearing masks.....Don't forget that many Asian people and occupations were wearing masks BEFORE Covid arrived. I'm thinking most Koreans, Japanese, caregivers for the elderly etc.
Given their previous attitude and the scaremongering, it's not surprising that many are reluctant to abandon them. Unfortunately, those that don't want or need them are forced to follow suit.
Cheers. G.
Not to stir the mask debate but even here in highly controlled and conservative Singapore, they finally removed mask requirements except on buses, trains and MRTs and hospitals. Still about 50% of the people are still wearing masks (which is totally fine). In countries like Philippines there are always some ulterior motives behind policies. There is a lot of money in Covid restrictions and now has little to do with public health. There was a time masks were necessary. But I think that time has passed.IMHO wearing masks when going out can save us from the polluted atmosphere in the heavy traffic areas and prevent nosocomial infections. After this covid era the respiratory infections are dropped dramatically in polluted countries.
Member #4794
08-31-22, 09:06
Magicly drinking or eating anything in phils makes you automatically immune to covid, so you just need to search for the nearest drink vendor so you can legitimately lower your mask. The guards will also NOT tell you to pull you mask up if you are eating or drinking unless you pass through a checkpoint.
In reality imo you only need to mask going through checkpoints and almost immediately lowering your mask again. Such as the 2 main entrances to walking street, MAYBE entering your hotel, on any kind of public transportation including grab & getting into the malls. Otherwise at least in AC you can lower your mask almost everywhere especially in restaurants and bars. First thing I do at the bar is stow my mask. So pull up a seat at tequila reef, kokomos, philly's, envy's take the mask off after you sit down and enjoy the show.
FuriousGeorge
08-31-22, 09:42
The absolute only place I wore a mask in AC was in the SM mall. Not one second anywhere else and nobody cared nor said a thing. Passing a stranger in a street and giving a smile and a Hello, is more beneficial to humankind than the zero percent chance of getting covid outdoors. The only reason I engage in this type of conversation is because I find it fascinating, humans' inability to properly evaluate risk. Get vaccinated, live your life. I saw a picture of a guy riding a motorcycle without a helmet, but wearing a mask. Fascinating.
Magicly drinking or eating anything in phils makes you automatically immune to covid, so you just need to search for the nearest drink vendor so you can legitimately lower your mask. The guards will also NOT tell you to pull you mask up if you are eating or drinking unless you pass through a checkpoint.
In reality imo you only need to mask going through checkpoints and almost immediately lowering your mask again. Such as the 2 main entrances to walking street, MAYBE entering your hotel, on any kind of public transportation including grab & getting into the malls. Otherwise at least in AC you can lower your mask almost everywhere especially in restaurants and bars. First thing I do at the bar is stow my mask. So pull up a seat at tequila reef, kokomos, philly's, envy's take the mask off after you sit down and enjoy the show.
Mr Enternational
08-31-22, 13:48
IMHO wearing masks when going out can save us from the polluted atmosphere in the heavy traffic areas and prevent nosocomial infections. After this covid era the respiratory infections are dropped dramatically in polluted countries.Was that due to people not being out as much, people wearing masks, the usually heavy traffic areas not having as much heavy traffic as before and therefore less pollution, the covid shot, or none of the above?
Mask requirements have never stopped me from fucking in AC. So what if they require it to enter Fields or SM Mall? Get over the small hurdles to the finish line! No requirements to wear a mask while licking or fucking.
I do wear a mask inside a trike to eliminate some exhaust fumes allergies.
AC is nice now with the smaller crowds with the unvaccinated weeded out along with the noncompliants.
Member #4794
08-31-22, 15:59
AC is nice now with the smaller crowds with the unvaccinated weeded out along with the noncompliants.Good point, this is true, felt like AC circa 2010, can't wait to get back.
Expat American
09-02-22, 06:32
Good point, this is true, felt like AC circa 2010, can't wait to get back.Were you ever in AC in 2010? So we have full nudity and lesbian action in bars now? Tons of cheap BJ and ST bars for 500 Peso short time? Long time is really the default with the Bar Fines now? Cmon, 2022 is nothing like 2010 even accounting for inflation. The whole environment is nowhere the same. Its still fun, but nothing like the good old days.
Member #4794
09-02-22, 07:52
Were you ever in AC in 2010? So we have full nudity and lesbian action in bars now? Tons of cheap BJ and ST bars for 500 Peso short time? Long time is really the default with the Bar Fines now? Cmon, 2022 is nothing like 2010 even accounting for inflation. The whole environment is nowhere the same. Its still fun, but nothing like the good old days.Baccara had this going on when I was there before it got raided girls were walking around in this very see through mesh without underwear on. They had some lesbian shows and full nudity obviously why they got raided I doubt its going on now post raid. You can go back in my trip reports and see this I mentioned this. As a matter of fact I was getting full service ST for cheap around one of the backstreets in a more nondescript bar kind of a remnant of santos street, I don't want to blow up their spot but its not hard to find. There was a lot less competition at times I was the only customer in the bars and less weekend millionaires so it was easier to find bar fines.
The thing I miss the most about 2010 is Tropix a lot of fond memories in that bar I've been waiting for someone to reopen that, Due to the change in nationality of the bar owners some of that flair will never come back but Its still great without all the anti-vaxxer buzzkills when they come back things are going to go back to boring because they demand boring got to give the customers what they want. 2010-12 was around the time where they used to have this lady who had to be on some kind of stimulant that did the girls choreography to "Who Let The Dogs Out! The girls now days don't put half the effort in as they used to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8agdcYg1OJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDqGvPUV48
NapaSlapper
09-02-22, 09:11
Hold on a moment montanna monger, lets put the record straight, talk of recent nudity in bars and bars getting raided for this recently is just not true, yes baccara bar was raided but it sure was not for nude girls.
The truth surrounding what's on offer in angeles bars since the bar raids of some years ago is that there is more flesh on show on any beach the world than in angeles bars.
As far as angeles girls availability yes one can get a BJ in some back street area for 1000 pesos by a 40-50 year old homeless lady but even well below average older fatter bar girls are demanding 4000-5000 pesos short time one pop with many of the better looking bargirls refusing to sit with whitie and insisting on drinks with asians only, lets not forget many bargirls just will not barfine with anyone because they don't need to, so where the value in an angeles visit.
Yes I get it that some just need a girl with a pulse to have a good time but for me and multiple others that are looking for the younger slimmer attractive girls then angeles is a poor destination choice especially for those that have to travel at great expence, hell I live 20 minutes from walking st and last Saturday I preferred to stay home and watch scarface for the 20th time than go out and be disappointed in the bars.
Old And Ugly
09-02-22, 11:18
They have this thing close to full nudity in few bars now: body tape the same color as the skin. While is exciting to watch, I don't really like it, because they are pushing it, and may get shut down. We will end up with fewer places, and fewer choices, therefore higher prices.
Old And Ugly
09-02-22, 12:10
I flew in and out from Korea, and in the airport I saw tons of koreans that brought their women along with them, all were checking in golf equipment, they look like the conservative family type, I don't think they been anywhere close to fields ave, or the surroundings, and I don't think that most of them are aware about the dark side of angeles city.
There are golf courses, upscale hotels, villas and restaurants, that are still a lot cheaper than Korea, and there is a new kind of weekend millionaires, that are not interested in what fields avenue has to offer, on a contrary, they may be offended by its very existence.
The few golfers coming without spouses, and still interested in finding company for one evening have something else in mind than the bars on walking street: I saw buses being loaded with girls from bars and taken to private villas. Probably they pay for all of them and use whatever they like, therefore doesn't seem that the existence of the bars will be necessary if this trend continues.
Seven new golf courses are being constructed, every bar and hotel that's still operating on walking street seems to be for sale, the ones that have been sold already are converted to clean looking korean bbq restaurants, and pool bars, with big see thru windows, and plenty of light fixtures. I think the old fields ave is being replaced with something we're not going to like, and spend thousands of dollars to fly to.
It is 2022 now. The past has no concern to the present or future.
Member #4794
09-02-22, 17:12
It is 2022 now. The past has no concern to the present or future.Thanks for the update.
Hold on a moment montanna monger, lets put the record straight, talk of recent nudity in bars and bars getting raided for this recently is just not true, yes baccara bar was raided but it sure was not for nude girls.
The truth surrounding what's on offer in angeles bars since the bar raids of some years ago is that there is more flesh on show on any beach the world than in angeles bars.
As far as angeles girls availability yes one can get a BJ in some back street area for 1000 pesos by a 40-50 year old homeless lady but even well below average older fatter bar girls are demanding 4000-5000 pesos short time one pop with many of the better looking bargirls refusing to sit with whitie and insisting on drinks with asians only, lets not forget many bargirls just will not barfine with anyone because they don't need to, so where the value in an angeles visit.
Yes I get it that some just need a girl with a pulse to have a good time but for me and multiple others that are looking for the younger slimmer attractive girls then angeles is a poor destination choice especially for those that have to travel at great expence, hell I live 20 minutes from walking st and last Saturday I preferred to stay home and watch scarface for the 20th time than go out and be disappointed in the bars.Set your sites on Medellin Colombia; my friend, something their for everyone, or any good reason to stay their if it's so horrible, just asking, because like you I was starting to feel no value their anymore, and just starting going to Thailand; and when pandemic hit rediscovered Medellin- everything happens for a reason, Medellin you can get whatever you want with zero hassle, I'm hoping my upcoming trip Sunday to Thailand is amazing and gives me reasons to keep going back like Medellin did!
Thanks for the update.Welcome.
FYI to all mongers, past and present 2023 wall calendars will be available for purchase in a few weeks.
It will be YK2000+22 1/365.
Just returned from a tour of duty in Angeles city, after 2 year pause, here is the report:
Bar fines: 4 k and up, I had one time 3 k but I forgot where (maybe it was insomnia).
The girls I had were super clean (and I had lots of them).
.And how much did you pay?
Well its available almost everywhere but in Philippines due the influence of the Catholic Church, BBFS is the default. The girls don't carry condoms and many non hookers have never even seen one. You can get it in Thailand and Indonesia as well bit it can be hit or miss. There are many clubs in Germany where it is the standard offering as well. But most anywhere if you have a regular thing with a girl it will almost always go to BBFS.The RTC AO clubs are rapidly dying in Germany. The girls that can move on to mainline FKK where they can charge 100€ and to everything WITH a condom instead of charging 50€ without in a RTC. In very rare circumstances you can get AO in a mainline but be prepared to cough up lots of €€€. The girls remaining in the RTC AO are all old fat and ugly, so I would recommend skipping Germany now a days.
Yes I get it that some just need a girl with a pulse to have a good time but for me and multiple others that are looking for the younger slimmer attractive girls then angeles is a poor destination.I'm typically a glass half full guy, but in today's AC, sadly, the glass really is half empty. You can still get laid by (in) decent ladies, but it takes more work and much more money. The old days of effortless and cheap fucking are gone. Still a fun destination to re-visit for a couple days, but it's better to set ones expectations pretty low these days.
NapaSlapper
09-03-22, 01:20
Set your sites on Medellin Colombia; my friend, something their for everyone, or any good reason to stay their if it's so horrible, just asking, because like you I was starting to feel no value their anymore, and just starting going to Thailand; and when pandemic hit rediscovered Medellin- everything happens for a reason, Medellin you can get whatever you want with zero hassle, I'm hoping my upcoming trip Sunday to Thailand is amazing and gives me reasons to keep going back like Medellin did!No chance of leaving angeles as I own a company that is doing well here if not for that I would be gone years ago.
For those that say forget the past this is 2022 so accept it, well unfortunately for angeles in 2022 there are far superior nearby Mon. Gering destinations to choose from so why settle for much less in angeles.
As far as non mongering asians I just had japanese business associates over and all they wanted was golf and good suchi, not a mention of visiting girlie bars so yes times are changing against the angeles bar industry as can be witnessed by multiple bars empty.
PedroMorales
09-03-22, 02:11
Well its available almost everywhere but in Philippines due the influence of the Catholic Church, BBFS is the default. The girls don't carry condoms and many non hookers have never even seen one. S.BBFS is common but not the default, Many NGOs etc supply condoms and explain risks.
Many "girls" carry condoms. Some have even stolen my condoms.
Americans, expat or otherwise, a health hazard. This is one dumb as shtt post. Christ on a bike.
LoveItHere69
09-03-22, 05:55
Set your sites on Medellin Colombia; my friend, something their for everyone, or any good reason to stay their if it's so horrible, just asking, because like you I was starting to feel no value their anymore, and just starting going to Thailand; and when pandemic hit rediscovered Medellin- everything happens for a reason, Medellin you can get whatever you want with zero hassle, I'm hoping my upcoming trip Sunday to Thailand is amazing and gives me reasons to keep going back like Medellin did!That is simplified stupid dangerous advice even if you were staying in Poblado area. Medellin and Colombia are nothing like Philippines or Thailand. Most areas you get inside before 9:00 PM as a tourist. You can not get drunk and have no worries of anything happening to you like Phils and Thailand. All of Colombia is not set up for tourists because it is not a big tourist destination. You will find very few signs and menus in English and very few people speak English so everything becomes more difficult. Guys visiting Thai / Phil think you have communication issues in those countries? Wait until you visit Colombia.
In Colombia if you hear yelling it means someone if trying to steal or there is a fight. If you hear screaming it means there is blood. I was in the Botero tourist area where there are large bronze sculptures and a museum. I was on the 3rd floor of a hotel when I hear screaming at one in the afternoon on a sunny day one block from the police station. Some guy got knifed. Not sure if he died or not. The picture you see is not a copy. That is from my phone.
Three times guys have tried to physically steal my phone from me. I have seen several guys get mugged in the middle of the day.
I am standing in the same area months later and I hear a thud. People start to gather outside a hotel I stayed at for 3 weeks. More and more people gathered so I walked over and see a guy laying on the cement but he was alive. I was told he either jumped or was thrown out the second or third floor of the hotel. Not sure sure if he died later on or not but it took 35 minutes before he was taken away.
I have seen more stuff happen in 3 months in Colombia than a total of 3 years in Phils.
BBFS is common but not the default, Many NGOs etc supply condoms and explain risks.
Many "girls" carry condoms. Some have even stolen my condoms.
Americans, expat or otherwise, a health hazard. This is one dumb as shtt post. Christ on a bike.I'm confused. Are we still speaking about Filipinas? You know: short girls, brown skin, long black hair, cute smiles but a funny accent? Those girls?
Maybe 2 out of 1000 that I have met match your description. Send me a pic of a condom so I can explain them to the other 998. It's always me who brings them out or suggests their usage, not the girls.
Are you suggesting that the average American monger poses more of a health risk than a 500-guys-a-year Bargirl? Suggest you read the recent posts about poxed up, stinking pussies.
Thanks for the fun read.
G.
.....For those that say forget the past this is 2022 so accept it, well unfortunately for angeles in 2022 there are far superior nearby Mon. Gering destinations to choose from so why settle for much less in angeles....I'd suggest that there are better options than barfines even within AC. I'd agree that street walking freelancers can be truely tragic but many online girls or civilian part-timers can be good fun and good value.
As for comparing a Walking Street barfine to a provincial honey, yes, it's chalk and cheese.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
09-03-22, 12:59
I'm confused. Are we still speaking about Filipinas? You know: short girls, brown skin, long black hair, cute smiles but a funny accent?? Those girls?
Maybe 2 out of 1000 that I have met match your description. Send me a pic of a condom so I can explain them to the other 998. It's always me who brings them out or suggests their usage, not the girls.I think 4 out of my 1000 mentioned a condom. They can't seem to keep their panty on; and they return and return for an internal vaccination, even decades before the pandemic (horny AND clairvoyant). Certain province girls would love to buntis-up with a gringo.
DzikaBomba
09-03-22, 17:24
That is simplified stupid dangerous advice even if you were staying in Poblado area. Medellin and Colombia are nothing like Philippines or Thailand. Most areas you get inside before 9:00 PM as a tourist. You can not get drunk and have no worries of anything happening to you like Phils and Thailand. All of Colombia is not set up for tourists because it is not a big tourist destination. You will find very few signs and menus in English and very few people speak English so everything becomes more difficult. Guys visiting Thai / Phil think you have communication issues in those countries? Wait until you visit Colombia.
In Colombia if you hear yelling it means someone if trying to steal or there is a fight. If you hear screaming it means there is blood. I was in the Botero tourist area where there are large bronze sculptures and a museum. I was on the 3rd floor of a hotel when I hear screaming at one in the afternoon on a sunny day one block from the police station. Some guy got knifed. Not sure if he died or not. The picture you see is not a copy. That is from my phone.
Three times guys have tried to physically steal my phone from me. I have seen several guys get mugged in the middle of the day..I enjoyed the Botero scene. Got BBFS there for 10 $ Chicas many times. I reported about that. But You need at least some Basic Spanish skills (as in every Spanish speaking country I. M. o) and yes Medellin is nor for every one. That's good, because that way it will stay so for a longer time like that it will and not end so quick like Poblado. For me Botero for sure was better than Sosua in DR, where I got shitty, cold service and needed to hustle with these Putas everyday. Much less hassle in Botero for me! Ha.
I'd suggest that there are better options than barfines even within AC. I'd agree that street walking freelancers can be truely tragic but many online girls or civilian part-timers can be good fun and good value..Yes, that's true. Freelancer are a much better deal. But travelling the long and costly way to fuck only Freelancers in a shithole like AC? I don't know, I'm not sure.
But I also did this also several times, but I'm not sure if I will do it again, because its kind of foolish and not necessary, because there are other Destinations.
Then I prefer to explore other destinations in Africa e. G.
That is simplified stupid dangerous advice even if you were staying in Poblado area. Medellin and Colombia are nothing like Philippines or Thailand. Most areas you get inside before 9:00 PM as a tourist. You can not get drunk and have no worries of anything happening to you like Phils and Thailand. All of Colombia is not set up for tourists because it is not a big tourist destination. You will find very few signs and menus in English and very few people speak English so everything becomes more difficult. Guys visiting Thai / Phil think you have communication issues in those countries? Wait until you visit Colombia.
In Colombia if you hear yelling it means someone if trying to steal or there is a fight. If you hear screaming it means there is blood. I was in the Botero tourist area where there are large bronze sculptures and a museum. I was on the 3rd floor of a hotel when I hear screaming at one in the afternoon on a sunny day one block from the police station. Some guy got knifed. Not sure if he died or not. The picture you see is not a copy. That is from my phone.
Three times guys have tried to physically steal my phone from me. I have seen several guys get mugged in the middle of the day.
I am standing in the same area months later and I hear a thud. People start to gather outside a hotel I stayed at for 3 weeks. More and more people gathered so I walked over and see a guy laying on the cement but he was alive. I was told he either jumped or was thrown out the second or third floor of the hotel. Not sure sure if he died later on or not but it took 35 minutes before he was taken away.
I have seen more stuff happen in 3 months in Colombia than a total of 3 years in Phils.Been over 60 times never once a jam up, maybe looking out of your 3rd floor 5 $ a night hotel room has something to do with the experience you seem to have over their? Hmmm, and my suggestion was for op who was looking for young hot chicks not you, and he answered me in a gentleman way unlike you! Oh and some advice for you get out of the 5 $ a night hotel area and it's much more safe! 3 times someone trying to steal your phone? Really, hmm! I've been going for over 20 years and never once has anyone ever tryed me like that, but I also not stay in 5 $ a night hotel rooms, and your advice about menus and stuff not being in English, have you even been their or you doing reports from moms basement? LOL stay safe (seems you have lots of bad luck) and maybe try a 10 $ a night room, somewhere out of the ghetto! Your experience will improve tremendously!! My first class ticket for Thailand leaves in the morning, but that's a whole nother story for you some other time, peace budy.
Kiev Freak
09-03-22, 19:31
This is my second PH visit after staying 2 months in manila in june and July. This time i directly came AC and booked a serviced condo in *kandi towers for a month ( trying to talk with host to make my stay shorter now )
AC is a dump. *There is nothing to do around , nothing to eat nearby walking street. I mostly use grab to order proper food. And i cannot wait to go back my *lovely gramercy residence in makati soon. *I collected lots of number before coming here and as usual 2/3 of girls just disappeared when i told them i arrived to AC. I really have no idea why girls do it. With some girls I almost talked everyday for 2 weeks , we made many plans o go Subic and even i offered to take them boracay. and as usual *they just ghosted as soon as i told them im in the town. Rest 1/3 still ok but nowhere near makati girls. About WS bars ;
Im in angeles for 2 days and i m planning to stay 2 weeks although my booking is one month.. my observations
- girls far less picky than Thailand. Many old white guys picked up 2 young slim girls in front of me.*
- barfine is 4K in most bar , all included. ( in pattaya , sensation gogo Barfine 1500 + long time 5000 , total 6500 baht ,which is more than double )
- BBFS and CIP is a norm. Even dont bother to ask.*
- girls are clean , their pussy doesnt smell bad that is different than *manila freelancers and semipros.*
- there are only fews *slim , attractive girls between 18-21 years old without baby damage. Not easy task to find and take them with you. I chatted with some but they behaved cold and i didnt take them although they answered they would come with me LT.*
- girls tend to leave in VERY early morning. As a general rule , I always ask when they will leave next day before barfining, almost all of them told me 06 AM or 07 AM . But then no reason for Long time if i have breakfast alone and no morning glory sex. Even mamasans involved and try to convince girls to stay with me at least next day until 12.00 but all of them refused. So i didnt barfine them. Again , i am interested only top tier girls , and i have a strict no baby damage rule ( it is flexible when im so horny or she is a freebie )
This is my second PH visit after staying 2 months in manila in june and July. This time i directly came AC and booked a serviced condo in *kandi towers for a month ( trying to talk with host to make my stay shorter now )
AC is a dump. *There is nothing to do around , nothing to eat nearby walking street. I mostly use grab to order proper food. And i cannot wait to go back my *lovely gramercy residence in makati soon. *I collected lots of number before coming here and as usual 2/3 of girls just disappeared when i told them i arrived to AC. I really have no idea why girls do it. With some girls I almost talked everyday for 2 weeks , we made many plans o go Subic and even i offered to take them boracay. and as usual *they just ghosted as soon as i told them im in the town. Rest 1/3 still ok but nowhere near makati girls. About WS bars ;
Im in angeles for 2 days and i m planning to stay 2 weeks although my booking is one month.. my observations
- girls far less picky than Thailand. Many old white guys picked up 2 young slim girls in front of me.*
- barfine is 4K in most bar , all included. ( in pattaya , sensation gogo Barfine 1500 + long time 5000 , total 6500 baht ,which is more than double )
- BBFS and CIP is a norm. Even dont bother to ask.*
- girls are clean , their pussy doesnt smell bad that is different than *manila freelancers and semipros.*
- there are only fews *slim , attractive girls between 18-21 years old without baby damage. Not easy task to find and take them with you. I chatted with some but they behaved cold and i didnt take them although they answered they would come with me LT.*
- girls tend to leave in VERY early morning. As a general rule , I always ask when they will leave next day before barfining, almost all of them told me 06 AM or 07 AM . But then no reason for Long time if i have breakfast alone and no morning glory sex. Even mamasans involved and try to convince girls to stay with me at least next day until 12.00 but all of them refused. So i didnt barfine them. Again , i am interested only top tier girls , and i have a strict no baby damage rule ( it is flexible when im so horny or she is a freebie )I have to agree. AC is not what it used to be. It used to be fun to walk the streets and alleys and pop into the numerous small bars with juke-boxes, and flirting with the young hotties. Now, its a different game. You need to connect early on social media and build a list of potentials. That will get things going as the girls want to share you with friends as a peso provider. I avoid the walking street bars and sometimes visit the hole in the wall bars on perimeter road.
However, aside from the hunt, there is not much excitement for me at walking street or the mall. From reading this forum, persons that visited Subic enjoyed themselves more, given the seaside atmosphere and general environment.
SometimesAlway
09-04-22, 00:01
I have to agree. AC is not what it used to be. It used to be fun to walk the streets and alleys and pop into the numerous small bars with juke-boxes, and flirting with the young hotties. Now, its a different game. You need to connect early on social media and build a list of potentials. That will get things going as the girls want to share you with friends as a peso provider. I avoid the walking street bars and sometimes visit the hole in the wall bars on perimeter road.
However, aside from the hunt, there is not much excitement for me at walking street or the mall. From reading this forum, persons that visited Subic enjoyed themselves more, given the seaside atmosphere and general environment.Such an apt description, Subic is so much more fun, being close to the beach brings out a natural smile on most people and the air is 100 x more breathable with a few trees around you compared to AC. The one downside (and that matters a lot for some on this forum) is the girls are far less attractive on average, so you need to look a little extra to get something to your liking. The party scene which is a big deal for me personally is very different but both extremes are enjoyable.
Will be back in AC soon still around the 20th even with all the complaints, it's better than staying home.
WestCoast1
09-04-22, 11:40
Did not know that booking provided for taxi service. See the pic of price from Makati to AC, about p6000 from your residence to your AC residence.
I realize that in the past you can find standby taxi drivers either at the airport arrivals area, or on the street, willing to take you door / door for 2500-3000. But with gasoline price hikes, I am no longer sure of prices. Anyone taken a taxi to AC in the past 6-ish months?
PedroMorales
09-04-22, 13:53
( trying to talk with host to make my stay shorter now )
AC is a dump.
- girls tend to leave in VERY early morning. As a general rule , I always ask when they will leave next day before barfining, almost all of them told me 06 AM or 07 AM . But then no reason for Long time if i have breakfast alone and no morning glory sex. Even mamasans involved and try to convince girls to stay with me at least next day until 12.00 but all of them refused. So i didnt barfine them. Again , i am interested only top tier girls , and i have a strict no baby damage rule ( it is flexible when im so horny or she is a freebie )This made me cry. On the positive side, you now know AC is a dump so no need for you to return. Leave it to the losers.
Girls, as you call them, have a life and they don't want to hang around with you all morning unless the meter is running on double time. If they stay until 7 am, it is only out of convenience.
If you want to hunt elephants, you have to go to elephant country or "top tier girls. No baby damage rule" country in your case. Go to Thailand and empty your pockets.
I have to agree. AC is not what it used to be. It used to be fun to walk the streets and alleys and pop into the numerous small bars with juke-boxes, and flirting with the young hotties. Now, its a different game. You need to connect early on social media and build a list of potentials. That will get things going as the girls want to share you with friends as a peso provider. I avoid the walking street bars and sometimes visit the hole in the wall bars on perimeter road.
However, aside from the hunt, there is not much excitement for me at walking street or the mall. From reading this forum, persons that visited Subic enjoyed themselves more, given the seaside atmosphere and general environment.Are there any post-covid reviews of Perimeter Bars? Ie. Bars that are open, new pricing, quality, etc.
FuriousGeorge
09-04-22, 20:18
BeeWay Travel is what I've always taken. They raised their rate from Manila to AC to 3500. Completely worth it. Private car with AC and a courteous driver who doesn't chit chat.
All this talk about the 'woe is me barfines are 4000' and LT vs ST I find amusing. I've never even spoken the words Long Time in AC. They come, we have fun for a few hours, and if they want to go, they go. Hell I sleep better alone anyway. But I'd say 95% stay the night, sometimes to my annoyance.
The real cost issue right now is the price of the airfare. I've always gotten from LA to MNL for about $1500, they are now around $2600+ for December, which is when I plan to return. I'll still do it but I won't be happy about it.
Did not know that booking provided for taxi service. See the pic of price from Makati to AC, about p6000 from your residence to your AC residence.
I realize that in the past you can find standby taxi drivers either at the airport arrivals area, or on the street, willing to take you door / door for 2500-3000. But with gasoline price hikes, I am no longer sure of prices. Anyone taken a taxi to AC in the past 6-ish months?
BeeWay Travel is what I've always taken. They raised their rate from Manila to AC to 3500. Completely worth it. Private car with AC and a courteous driver who doesn't chit chat.
All this talk about the 'woe is me barfines are 4000' and LT vs ST I find amusing. I've never even spoken the words Long Time in AC. They come, we have fun for a few hours, and if they want to go, they go. Hell I sleep better alone anyway. But I'd say 95% stay the night, sometimes to my annoyance.
The real cost issue right now is the price of the airfare. I've always gotten from LA to MNL for about $1500, they are now around $2600+ for December, which is when I plan to return. I'll still do it but I won't be happy about it.I vouch for Beeway too.
BTW, United Airlines some December RT tickets around $2,000 depending on the dates. I like the one stop in NRT.
Either way from $1500 to $2600 is $37 a day. Well worth it to be bb in some warm and tight pinay pussy!
...The real cost issue right now is the price of the airfare....I can't speak for US airfares but here prices are astronomical for the next 1 or 2 months but then start getting reasonable the further out the booking. No crazy cheap options like before but south of USD 600 return. Of course that returns to 3 or 4 x during the main holiday seasons.
I guess the secret it to avoid spur of the moment trips and the whole Christmas period.
Enjoy.
Fastpiston
09-05-22, 04:58
I can't speak for US airfares but here prices are astronomical for the next 1 or 2 months but then start getting reasonable the further out the booking. No crazy cheap options like before but south of USD 600 return. Of course that returns to 3 or 4 x during the main holiday seasons.
I guess the secret it to avoid spur of the moment trips and the whole Christmas period.
Enjoy.Be careful of fuel costs supplements that can be added anytime before travel. Otherwise look at destinations closer to home.
Be careful of fuel costs supplements that can be added anytime before travel. Otherwise look at destinations closer to home.Is that a US thing? Never heard of them. Once I book and pay for a flight, the price is fixed.
The only price changes I've seen is if a flight is cancelled, I receive a credit but the new ticket may be at a different price. Sadly that happens all the time now with the airline chaos. Now I just cash out if there are any dramas as credit etc aren't worth the hassle.
Cheers. G.
NapaSlapper
09-05-22, 15:55
I vouch for Beeway too.
BTW, United Airlines some December RT tickets around $2,000 depending on the dates. I like the one stop in NRT.
Either way from $1500 to $2600 is $37 a day. Well worth it to be bb in some warm and tight pinay pussy!Yes it might be an extra $37 per day for air fare over a months stay, but what about the other daily costs that have sky rocketed.
Girl costs, flight costs, hotel costs, taxi costs, girlie drinks costs, tips costs.
I would guess even only having 1 older fattie per day over the month it would be easy to spend $250 per day or $7,500 for the month and that's taking it easy, want the better looker, or more than 1 girl per day, drink plenty and buy a few lady drinks, stay in a better hotel then those costs could reach $15,000 over the month.
Yes not cheap at all to be inside a pinay in the new Angeles.
Yes it might be an extra $37 per day for air fare over a months stay, but what about the other daily costs that have sky rocketed.
Girl costs, flight costs, hotel costs, taxi costs, girlie drinks costs, tips costs.
I would guess even only having 1 older fattie per day over the month it would be easy to spend $250 per day or $7,500 for the month and that's taking it easy, want the better looker, or more than 1 girl per day, drink plenty and buy a few lady drinks, stay in a better hotel then those costs could reach $15,000 over the month.
Yes not cheap at all to be inside a pinay in the new Angeles.I am sure FG has figured his budget to an acceptable level. He stated his only issue was the increased airfare cost of $1100 for December.
Per FG's posts, he stays at Central Park Hotel, is handsome, in good shape and gets a fair amount of free pussy. His costs may be considerably less than yours. Also he gets some pretty good looking girls and not fatties.
In conclusion his only issue was the $1100. BTW, the $1100 was not stopping him from going.
Yes not cheap at all to be inside a pinay in the new Angeles.I take your point that AC is not longer the cheap pussy heaven that it was. Having said that, I don't know any non residents that take extended holidays in AC only. Certainly none that would be paying full barfines and day rates for 30 consecutive days.
A long weekend is about my limit. 30 days would send me crazy.
Expat American
09-06-22, 06:15
I take your point that AC is not longer the cheap pussy heaven that it was. Having said that, I don't know any non residents that take extended holidays in AC only. Certainly none that would be paying full barfines and day rates for 30 consecutive days.
A long weekend is about my limit. 30 days would send me crazy.Exactly. 4 days is my limit. 2 girls per day. Beyond that its monotony.
FuriousGeorge
09-06-22, 10:42
I guess we're all different. A full month of eating, dancing, drinking, partying with locals, and bare sexing up a different 88 lb pinay every night is the farthest thing from monotony I can imagine.
Exactly. 4 days is my limit. 2 girls per day. Beyond that its monotony.
A full month of eating...I must have missed the fine dining experiences in AC.
...dancing...HiSo is now closed. Is there anywhere else still open?
...partying with locals....A bunch of single moms living large on my dime? No thanks.
....bare sexing up a different 88 lb pinay every night....Ok. I'll give you that one.
....is the farthest thing from monotony I can imagine.Good to hear 😊. I'm only joking. Ad you say, everyone is different so its great to read that you're enjoying yourself. 👍. I can certainly enjoy a few days, but more than that is too much of a good thing. 😜.
Expat American
09-07-22, 04:04
I guess we're all different. A full month of eating, dancing, drinking, partying with locals, and bare sexing up a different 88 lb pinay every night is the farthest thing from monotony I can imagine.Haha. Yes I guess we are different. I have yet to find decent food in AC. I don't drink a lot. I can't have a decent conversation with anybody and get sick of bar girl or tired old expat talk. The bare sexing of young pinays? Yup. Thats why I am there. 2 per day and then I'm good. Plus a decent massage at Reign each day is nice too. It also helps that I live in SIN where I can get access to Thai and Viet and Filipina women as well and also that I can go back to AC whenever I desire for a cheap short flight. I wouldn't bother to go to AC as a destination from US / EU anymore.
Kiev Freak
09-08-22, 07:14
I barfined a girl 2 days ago and she told me she usually not at bar because customers book her always online before she goes bar. I asked how this is possible and she said there is an app for that. Next day I wanted to extend her and her manager came my condo. I paid bar fine for 2 days more and I asked that app. Manager said that app for Korean only.
Anyone know how this app works and we can use it also? The manager told me mostly stunners barfined without coming bar because I told her I cannot see real stunners in bars mostly.
Anyone know how this app works and we can use it also? The manager told me mostly stunners barfined without coming bar because I told her I cannot see real stunners in bars mostly.I don't know of any specific app (s) but all bars that I know can send you girls. Everywhere is different but most will respond to email, phone Facebook or WhatsApp enquiries.
How well the bar knows you will determine how and when you pay. Not AC, but in Sabang, I've kept many girls for several days and only paid at the end. Having said that, I was a frequent visitor with a good payment history.
Mr Enternational
09-08-22, 17:50
Manager said that app for Korean only. The manager told me mostly stunners barfined without coming bar because I told her I cannot see real stunners in bars mostly.LOL. So the chicks are still there, they are just not at the bars. The Koreans got tired of you guys getting jealous and made an app so they would not even have to go to the bars. Genius!
LOL. So the chicks are still there, they are just not at the bars. The Koreans got tired of you guys getting jealous and made an app so they would not even have to go to the bars. Genius!I am not sure Koreans get tired of us. They love to show off splashing money and pretty girls and generally partying among themselves. In Angeles city they practically owns the place or they act like they do.
Ordering girls on the App from the bar? That is a new one on me. Must be the cost of barfine is higher. What I hear from the girls before is Koreans generally are not into staying in the room and fucking girls all day. Maybe this is a way to get the pretty girl before someone snatches her if she is in the bar. Previously they just came and reserved the girl by paying barfine and came back later to take her. Have not been to angeles for a few years now. Mostly going to Manila, cebu and others getting girls from DIA. Quite happy with this arrangement. Girls are pretty and totally GFE. Going to Philippines next month and have already lined up many girls. Not planning to go to angeles.
....Maybe this is a way to get the pretty girl before someone snatches her if she is in the bar. Previously they just came and reserved the girl by paying barfine and came back later to take her.....Or walking in at opening time and taking all the hotties. Sabang was famous for bars having lots of cuties but all the hottest being gone at 6:02.
+1 for Koreans wanting to be seen spending up with the cutest girls. I can't see being locked away alone in a hotel room and having internet girls sent directly to the door being too attractive to them.
Enjoy. G.
HiSo is now closed. Is there anywhere else still open?
Mega Dance club at the beginning of Walking street is similar to HiSo, pretty much the same staff and visitors.
LoveItHere69
09-09-22, 19:10
The Koreans got tired of you guys getting jealous and made an app so they would not even have to go to the bars. Genius!Stupid for the bars unless they are charging a high premium price for this. That is a ton of Korean and lady drinks money lost and raining money lost. If no hotties and just fuglies then I predict a lot less raining money and lady drinks. Guys will not buy a lot of drinks for an average girl and her average to ugly friend. Guys will buy more drinks for the hottie and her average or ugly friend.
They love to show off splashing money and pretty girls and generally partying among themselves. In Angeles city they practically owns the place or they act like they do.Koreans splash money to show off to the girls and their Korean friends. Everyone else cease to exist to them.
This is huge and you guys seem to miss it. Having their own Korean owned bars with many waitresses and bar girls ignoring non-Korean customers was not good enough. Now the girl does not have to go to the bar to wait for her customer which causes many problems for the rest of us. First, you do not have a chance to ever see her so you do not even know she exists to wait for her or ask for her. Second, since she is not waiting for her customer at the bar she is not bonding and making friends with the other girls. If she has friends in the bar then after her customer lets her go or on an off day she may stop by and hang out at the bar for an hour or so chatting with friends.
If she is hot she will hardly ever step foot in the bar. Koreans bar fine girls for several days and usually keep them all day and night. Now with the app she can be "taken" for weeks on end. Just fill out what days you want her on the calendar. Sam has her Sept 15-17 (back up / secondary customer Jon), Jay Sept 18-23 (backup / secondary customer Scott), and so forth.
Many reports already about guys not finding the hotties they used to. Once this app gets used more and more their will be less and less hotties, less guys going to the bars, less guys going to Angeles, and so forth. I think the bars are slitting their own throats because eventually the bar will not be needed to meet the girls. It will all be online.
WestCoast1
09-10-22, 01:50
If she is hot she will hardly ever step foot in the bar. Koreans bar fine girls for several days and usually keep them all day and night. Now with the app she can be "taken" for weeks on end. Just fill out what days you want her on the calendar. Sam has her Sept 15-17 (back up / secondary customer Jon), Jay Sept 18-23 (backup / secondary customer Scott), and so forth.
SNIP
I think the bars are slitting their own throats because eventually the bar will not be needed to meet the girls. It will all be online.New app name: 'Snatch-bnb'.
Stupid for the bars unless they are charging a high premium price for this. That is a ton of Korean and lady drinks money lost and raining money lost. If no hotties and just fuglies then I predict a lot less raining money and lady drinks. Guys will not buy a lot of drinks for an average girl and her average to ugly friend. Guys will buy more drinks for the hottie and her average or ugly friend.
Koreans splash money to show off to the girls and their Korean friends. Everyone else cease to exist to them.
This is huge and you guys seem to miss it.
Many reports already about guys not finding the hotties they used to. Once this app gets used more and more their will be less and less hotties, less guys going to the bars, less guys going to Angeles, and so forth. I think the bars are slitting their own throats because eventually the bar will not be needed to meet the girls. It will all be online.I will even out. This may actually make things better in the long run. Think of a gold rush. One dude finds gold and thousands rush to the west coast seeking their fortune. Word gets out that Koreans are paying big money and girls will flock to AC to make their fortune. You should be spreading the word "there's gold in them there hills. ".
LoveItHere69
09-10-22, 04:09
I will even out. This may actually make things better in the long run. Think of a gold rush. One dude finds gold and thousands rush to the west coast seeking their fortune. Word gets out that Koreans are paying big money and girls will flock to AC to make their fortune. You should be spreading the word "there's gold in them there hills. ".In the 10 years the Koreans have made more an more of an impact. Many bars owners, managers, and mamasans steer the girls towards the Koreans. They now own or run half the bars. The girls on stage wear more and more clothes and there are fewer girls on stage to look at. Prices are increasing faster and faster. Yet guys report less and less stunners so your gold theory is complete BS.
So in the past ten years can you explain one thing that has gotten better having the Koreans in reference to bar girls. Nobody comes to AC because all the massage parlors or Korean food so if that is making things better in the long run then it is a fail because that is not why we go to AC.
I will even out. This may actually make things better in the long run. Think of a gold rush. One dude finds gold and thousands rush to the west coast seeking their fortune. Word gets out that Koreans are paying big money and girls will flock to AC to make their fortune. You should be spreading the word "there's gold in them there hills. ".You can't keep watering down someone's beer and keep calling it beer, eventually its just water with a slight beer taste. This is my second day here, can't report on the past since I've never been here before but the talent in some of these bars was pretty low. Walked into Lolipop and the talent was just dreadful. Headed down and went into Dollhouse, better music and a more dimmed atmosphere which I liked but the girls on stage were just average. Went across the street to Q bar, slightly better talent level with a few cuties. Took one out for 3700 barfine, had a romp with her but her personality outside the bar just wasn't to my liking. Talked too much about being new to the scene which made me suspect she wasn't. Went into 123 club and the talent was a bit better but at the same time the club setup didn't allow me to view all of the girls on the stage. Next day hit club XS and enjoyed the shows they were putting on especially the electric tape outfits the one group of girls were wearing. Left there then went down to Bamboo club and bought drinks for a cutie who turned out was barfined at the start of her shift and the guy was coming back at 1 am to pick her up.
Can't say I've ever experienced buying a girl a drink and then being told she was already barfined and the guy would be back at 1 am. That can rub customers the wrong way if the girl they think is available isn't but is still working the bar. Its a different type of hunt for girls when your living here, there's no need to take a girl every night like there is when you are a weekend millionaire. So its fun to sit and watch the guys going about their business, leading girls away or up to the short time room. Talent in the street is pretty good, see some cute girls going this way and that way. Many on the arms of Koreans, a scattered few on the arms of other foreigners. It's an interesting trip so far, something new. I flew up from Cebu so didn't have to deal with a long bus ride to get here from Manila. Pretty sure the Koreans have a direct flight to Clarke so guessing that's why they are now here in droves. I was wondering about those man purses the Koreans carry, a woman boards a flight and she can bring a small carry on along with her purse. Is it the same with a man purse? And all over the world men carry wallets and put stuff in pockets. How is it that Koreans and Japanese men talked themselves into carrying these purses? You go around Asia you don't see the men in other countries going along with this trend. I have seen YouTube videos where the record hidden video of these establishments, maybe some of those purses are used to record the girls.
Another observation was that upon landing I turned on my phone and the Grab app quoted me 150 peso's to my hotel. But that was out on the landing strip. Once I got into the terminal and fired up the app that price jumped to 300 peso's for a ride in a trike that wouldn't be there for 20 minutes. Its the same high prices for getting a car in Cebu using Grab, there are no motorbike options on the Grab app like there is in Thailand. I did manage to install the Angkas app and order a motorbike to pick me up and drop me off in Cebu, unfortunately that app doesn't work yet in Angeles.
PedroMorales
09-10-22, 08:05
Stupid for the bars unless they are charging a high premium price for this. That is a ton of Korean and lady drinks money lost and raining money lost. If no hotties and just fuglies then I predict a lot less raining money and lady drinks. Guys will not buy a lot of drinks for an average girl and her average to ugly friend. Guys will buy more drinks for the hottie and her average or ugly friend.
.Hate to break it to you but the fuglies, as you pejoratively call them, are the backbone of any bar. They do most of the work. The young star fish get bar fined early and think their average looks in an eternal meal ticket. When you hang all these hookers upside down, they all look the same.
NapaSlapper
09-10-22, 08:28
I will even out. This may actually make things better in the long run. Think of a gold rush. One dude finds gold and thousands rush to the west coast seeking their fortune. Word gets out that Koreans are paying big money and girls will flock to AC to make their fortune. You should be spreading the word "there's gold in them there hills. ".I think you will find that in the modern world all a pretty girl has do do is put her picture on a dating site where she will have every desperate lonely heart around the world sending her large sums just to chat and get the illusion that a pretty girl actually likes them, all without having to meet up or to leave home for the girl.
Sex apps or no sex apps anything young, slim and cute in angeles city is asian only as has been confirmed by many.
Unfortunately what is left for the westerner is what the asian don't want normally the older, fatter plain girls.
Yes the reality of angeles city for the westerner is a pain And its only going to get worse with the arrival of more high spending asians, the only way to somehow enjoy angeles as it is today is to pack far more money, lower ones girl expectations and accept that as westerners we are not top dog any more.
LoveItHere69
09-10-22, 16:24
Can't say I've ever experienced buying a girl a drink and then being told she was already barfined and the guy would be back at 1 am. That can rub customers the wrong way if the girl they think is available isn't but is still working the bar.OMG it has been awhile I forgot about all my questions I had before I would buy a ladydrink.
Yours first. "Are you barfined already tonight?
"Do you go out and sex with customers?" Some say they have a BF and only there to dance and drink.
"Virgin?
"Menstruation?
Hate to break it to you but the fuglies, as you pejoratively call them, are the backbone of any bar. They do most of the work. The young star fish get bar fined early and think their average looks in an eternal meal ticket. Many guys will settle for less quality looks when it gets late at night. Also, drunk guys may take just about anything. But AC bars do not exist because we want to travel across the globe for fuglies. We travel half way around the world to find stunners or the hope of finding one. As soon as a western guy makes two trips to AC and does not find one stunner he will not be returning. Maybe even after one trip. If the quality problems we keep reading about continue more and bars will close. I will open a bar and name it stunners and fill it with stunners. You open a bar named average older chicks and fill it with average older chicks. Hate to break it to you but you are clueless.
DzikaBomba
09-10-22, 18:45
Since 2018 I was about 5 times in this shithole AC. Last time in June. And this was the best trip ever! Sadly only a few days, because I wasted my most time in Cebu.
But I never did any Barfine in my trips! Just fucked only FL. But the idea coming to the dirthole AC from Europe to only fuck FL there is also strange for me, but I did it anyway.
I never had a Problem finding Teenies without Babies there. I had a few of them every trip.
But I just recently reached my 3th Decade and I'm blond and skinny. Maybe this makes a difference here.
Last trip in June they jumped on me, they wanted to stay LT and don't wanted to leave. They all gave me DFK, which I haven't had so much in my trips before. This was the best experience I had in AC and I never paid more than 1,5 k ST and 3 LK LT. They are every time someone asking for more, but I never pay it. Some accept my price also not immediately, but the next day. They were for for sure thin and no babies. See pics.
But the long and costly travel for Europa to AC is the big minus. And still every time you have some not so good experiences and in AC. But it happens everywhere. Everytime I was there I also meet smelly pussies, also with the "high tier" girls. This is something I noticed so often only in AC and this is often killing the mood.
But still there are some without.
The only thing which is bringing me back to AC is the easy availability of BBFS. Without that no way I would go there again!
Engine Driver
09-10-22, 22:48
The bars owned by Koreans are not there to make money off 300 peso drinks and 3500 peso bar fines. They are all fronts for laundering profits made off the drug trade. Cash transactions, opaque accounting and a compliant, corrupt local police force and government make it easy for the drug lords to clean their dirty money. The owners personally don't care if the girls are ugly or pretty or whether old westerners are happy. Just think, since time immemorial, has any legitimate businessman entered the flesh trade?
In the old days, many old, divorced westerners with no commercial acumen bought bars to live out a childhood fantasy. Free beer, free pussy, lots of mates, an exotic location and a chance to make millions. But that was 30 years ago.
WestCoast1
09-11-22, 00:32
Yes the reality of angeles city for the westerner is a pain And its only going to get worse with the arrival of more high spending asians, the only way to somehow enjoy angeles as it is today is to pack far more money, lower ones girl expectations and accept that as westerners we are not top dog any more.Words and sentiments that were being spoken 7-8 years ago on the board as we were in the midst of watching the change happen. The Korean were taking more control, the girls were getting fuglier, barfine prices were increasing. Seems we are re-acquainting ourselves with something that occurred before pandemic.
OMG it has been awhile I forgot about all my questions I had before I would buy a ladydrink.
Yours first. "Are you barfined already tonight?
"Do you go out and sex with customers?" Some say they have a BF and only there to dance and drink.
"Virgin?
"Menstruation?Cut faster to the chase by asking the mamasan these questions before calling a girl over to you. Tell her you are only interested in girls willing to barfine TONIGHT. Not interested in Virgin, mens, already barfined. You can call the mama over and ask that even before you order a drink.
You don't need to buy any drinks in order to barfine a girl. The bar routine of: Buy yourself a drink, call a girl to your table and guy her a drink, chat the girl to see if you like each other, decide to barfine her or not, if not send her back and call another girl, lather/rinse/repeat. That entire system is set up by the bars (much like a system is in place at casinos to keep you losing your money), not by you. Have we learned nothing from the Koreans? They send 1 of their mates to the bar when it opens, to see a lineup of girls. He chooses one girl for each of the number of his mates, and he barfines them all at once. Did he buy himself or the girls a drink?
Alternately, grab the first passing GRO and tell her *exactly* what you are looking for in tonight's barfine: Anal, no durex, stays till 9 am, camera, phone off while sleeping, blah, blah, blah. Let the GRO be your provider (don't be afraid to tip).
One of the problems with the approach I have mentioned above is: Its very business-like. Chatting up some gents, they are the opposite of business-like in choosing tonight's girl. He is looking for a 'good fit', or a girl that he is comfortable with. The only way to determine if he is comfortable with her is to chat her up some with general chat. THAT will require at least one drink, and possibly more as he doesn't 'fit' with the first gal and must chat up a second or third girl to find one that he's comfortable with. Its just a different approach than what I suggest.
We travel half way around the world to find stunners or the hope of finding one. As soon as a western guy makes two trips to AC and does not find one stunner he will not be returning. Maybe even after one trip. If the quality problems we keep reading about continue more and bars will close. I will open a bar and name it stunners and fill it with stunners. You open a bar named average older chicks and fill it with average older chicks. Hate to break it to you but you are clueless.Respectfully I am going to disagree with this. I like stunners as much as the next guy, but I'm fine with any spinner with a good attitude. Also I'm not hung up on age. Heard quite a few gents on the board and also while having a drink say things like: "I target 18-21", and such. I don't really have a skinny target range. More likely to keep me away from AC is its dull daytime.
Alternately, grab the first passing GRO and tell her *exactly* what you are looking for in tonight's barfine: Anal, no durex, stays till 9 am, camera, phone off while sleeping, blah, blah, blah. Let the GRO be your provider (don't be afraid to tip).Excellent advice.
During my last trip a waitress probably noticed my bored face while watching the lineup and asked if she could help. I described what I wanted and voila out from the shadows was produced a cutie who was supposedly visiting on her day off. We made private arrangements and had a good time. Tipped the pimping waitress well, of course, but I guess she also got a cut from the pimpee. Whatever, a productive time was had by all.
WestCoast1
09-11-22, 01:15
Excellent advice.
During my last trip a waitress probably noticed my bored face while watching the lineup and asked if she could help. I described what I wanted and voila out from the shadows was produced a cutie who was supposedly visiting on her day off. We made private arrangements and had a good time. Tipped the pimping waitress well, of course, but I guess she also got a cut from the pimpee. Whatever, a productive time was had by all.A re-telling of a post from back then. Walked into the bar across from Kokomo's (Tyhoon? The other one started with the letter P -- Passion? Can't remember the name). They have a long, curved, snaking, raised girlie dance line. I sit at a stool at the conga-lined girls, and before the waitress comes I ask one of the dancers to find me a girl who can do items J, K, L, and M. "Oh sir I don't do anal. But that girl over there? Long hair? Gemma. She will do it. She need barfine tonight to pay her rent they going to kick her to the street". She ran and grabbed Gemma and brought her to me thru the snake-line of flesh. Twenty seconds later Gemma was agreeing to a barfine. When the waitress showed to take the drink order, no drink was needed, just the barfine ticket. When Gemma came out dressed in street clothes, we spoke with the mama about Gemma's agreement to J, K, L, and M. Everyone nodded in the affirmative. A great time was had by me. This worked so well that I repeated it in many bars where the customer can sit directly in front of the dancers and touch them -- Body Shop, Butterfly Rock, PonyTails.
Working an agreement like mine or PN's was never difficult. Also, gogo girls often have friends either in or out of the biz who can swing by another day for J, K, L, and M (my rule of thumb on price for these extra-judicial visits was generally half the barfine amount or less).
FuriousGeorge
09-11-22, 01:39
I've always suspected this, and if true we should probably be thankful. If these places had to turn a legitimate profit they'd probably all go away quickly.
I've told this story before but it may be relevant in this context. In HiSo around 2019 there was an extremely well dressed lady in her late 30's in the elevated VIP section (east side of the bar). She had bottle service and a bunch of food and what I would call 3 'henchwomen' to whom she would hand out blue bills and have them do her bidding throughout the night. One of these women approached me on the dance floor and informed me that the lady would like to invite me over and meet me. I sat with them for about an hour while she bought me food and drinks and during our conversation she revealed that she and her husband owned many of the girl bars in Angeles City. In hindsight she did look exactly like what you would think a drug kingpin's wife would look like. Later one of the henchwomen took me aside and told me that the lady would like to take me back to her place and be with me for the night. I approached the main lady and said with the most sincerity that I could muster, that I unfortunately had other plans for the night (I didn't) and regretfully had to decline. I left, trying not to look like I was in a hurry. In hindsight I think I made the right decision.
The bars owned by Koreans are not there to make money off 300 peso drinks and 3500 peso bar fines. They are all fronts for laundering profits made off the drug trade. Cash transactions, opaque accounting and a compliant, corrupt local police force and government make it easy for the drug lords to clean their dirty money. The owners personally don't care if the girls are ugly or pretty or whether old westerners are happy. Just think, since time immemorial, has any legitimate businessman entered the flesh trade?
NapaSlapper
09-11-22, 01:52
In the larger bars and especially the ones that are owned by groups that own many bars that employ hundreds of girls spread over many bars which revolve their staff almost daily then most mamas / waitresses will probably not even have met most of the girls she works with that night so can offer very little truthful help.
Even if the mama / waitress knows all the girls she has no power over who the girl chooses, she might say kind words but if the bargirl does not find one attractive, does not feel well, does not get a good vibe, wants st when the punter wants LT etc then no amount of introduction will seal the deal IMHO.
Since 2018 I was about 5 times in this shithole AC. Last time in June. And this was the best trip ever! Sadly only a few days, because I wasted my most time in Cebu.
But I never did any Barfine in my trips! Just fucked only FL. But the idea coming to the dirthole AC from Europe to only fuck FL there is also strange for me, but I did it anyway.
I never had a Problem finding Teenies without Babies there. I had a few of them every trip.
But I just recently reached my 3th Decade and I'm blond and skinny. Maybe this makes a difference here.
Last trip in June they jumped on me, they wanted to stay LT and don't wanted to leave. They all gave me DFK, which I haven't had so much in my trips before. This was the best experience I had in AC and I never paid more than 1,5 k ST and 3 LK LT. They are every time someone asking for more, but I never pay it. Some accept my price also not immediately, but the next day. They were for for sure thin and no babies. See pics.
But the long and costly travel for Europa to AC is the big minus. And still every time you have some not so good experiences and in AC. But it happens everywhere. Everytime I was there I also meet smelly pussies, also with the "high tier" girls. This is something I noticed so often only in AC and this is often killing the mood.
But still there are some without.
The only thing which is bringing me back to AC is the easy availability of BBFS. Without that no way I would go there again!Thanks for the report, if you could help out with a couple of quick questions I'd be grateful.
- what was your preferred method for looking for FL, pinalove? Or other sites?
- why say Cebu was wasted time considering you're only looking for FL and not barfines?
- and last, by saying you're in your 3rd decade you mean 30+ I suppose? (as that would be 4th decade).
The bars owned by Koreans .....Shit, you're still alive. Welcome back. 😉.
DzikaBomba
09-11-22, 15:49
Thanks for the report, if you could help out with a couple of quick questions I'd be grateful.
- what was your preferred method for looking for FL, pinalove? Or other sites?
- why say Cebu was wasted time considering you're only looking for FL and not barfines?
- and last, by saying you're in your 3rd decade you mean 30+ I suppose? (as that would be 4th decade).I searched through PL, Wechat and Tantan. Best success with PL. But old contacts from other trips where the best sources. They introduced me to their friends and they to their friends and so on. This snowball system is really the best. You can do it with facebook also. Add some hokers and then add the friends of them. You can already see from the pics, that they are FL.
In Cebu I found the Amount of FL poor in Comparison to AC and they where not so eager to jump quickly in my bed, as in AC. You had to text with them for longer periods and I don't have patience for that. I want to fuck quickly.
Yes, I'm 31.
Engine Driver
09-11-22, 20:21
Shit, you're still alive. Welcome back.Well, there's been nothing to report for nearly 3-years. Just lining up a few good prospects. So who knows? One is a nice looking IG model, but she says I need to meet her elder sister and brother-in-law first and seek their permission before she will fuck me.
LOL. I will have to decline.
LoveItHere69
09-11-22, 22:35
Respectfully I am going to disagree with this. I like stunners as much as the next guy, but I'm fine with any spinner with a good attitude. Also I'm not hung up on age. Heard quite a few gents on the board and also while having a drink say things like: "I target 18-21", and such. I don't really have a skinny target range. More likely to keep me away from AC is its dull daytime.You are the exception not the rule. Older guys and guys that live there do not care as much because they can get a stunner any time they want really. But two week millionaires do not go mongering all around the world seeking average girls! Guys on a budget but only have 2 weeks vacation per year are not taking that long expensive flight to spend two weeks with girls that are ok looking. I have been with both levels of girls. But I do not go showing pictures and bragging to my buddies about the average girls I was with, only the stunners that cause my friends to drool and doubt me at the same time.
Yes, many bars are money laundering fronts I am sure. But if they have so much money to launder then I would think they would need more bars to spread and hide the wealth rather than less bars, and less and less bars is what is happening.
Engine Driver
09-12-22, 03:40
You are the exception not the rule. Older guys and guys that live there do not care as much because they can get a stunner any time they want really. But two week millionaires do not go mongering all around the world seeking average girls! Guys on a budget but only have 2 weeks vacation per year are not taking that long expensive flight to spend two weeks with girls that are ok looking. I have been with both levels of girls. But I do not go showing pictures and bragging to my buddies about the average girls I was with, only the stunners that cause my friends to drool and doubt me at the same time.
Yes, many bars are money laundering fronts I am sure. But if they have so much money to launder then I would think they would need more bars to spread and hide the wealth rather than less bars, and less and less bars is what is happening.Older retirees in AC on military pensions or other social security from their home countries prefer to drink beer and tell war stories with their mates. Not many of them are chasing top tier pussy. For older mongers like me, girls attitude is far more important than pure looks. I've had the best times with 6's and 7's and lousy times with 10's. You can easily get 10's by searching IG and paying upwards of 20 k for a root. Not hard to do.
Bars are only one way to launder drug profits. The Philippines has lots of casinos. The Chinese and Koreans are not playing with their own money. The syndicates tell them to lose 20% so that they can take 80%. Shit, I come from a rich white man country, and all the casinos just exist to clean Chinese drug profits. Some of them are in danger of losing their licenses. I can only imagine the how murky the situation in Manila or AC would be. Crypto currency also now makes it easy to launder money.
WestCoast1
09-12-22, 07:32
You are the exception not the rule. If I could just get the *ladies* to say that. . .
but she says I need to meet her elder sister and brother-in-law first and seek their permission before she will fuck me.Hahaha. Best one-liner of the year on this board. "I will ask the husband of my sister I can f*ck to you".
Engine Driver
09-12-22, 08:24
If I could just get the *ladies* to say that. . .
Hahaha. Best one-liner of the year on this board. "I will ask the husband of my sister I can f*ck to you".Thanks Mr Westie. The girl lives with her elder sister and brother in law. The big sister controls every aspect of her life, including what modeling assignments she can take, what pictures she can post and whom she meets. Big sister also takes a cut of her income. The girl is 27 and is still subject to curfews. She is sometimes grounded for insubordination. There is no way I can meet or fuck this girl without getting the big sisters blessing. The brother in law is an American, so I doubt a bottle of 200 peso Tanduay rhum as a bribe is going to do the trick. LOL. Please see text extract.
AsianPursuits
09-12-22, 21:55
Older retirees in AC on military pensions or other social security from their home countries prefer to drink beer and tell war stories with their mates. Not many of them are chasing top tier pussy. For older mongers like me, girls attitude is far more important than pure looks. Philippines has something and someone for everyone. That there is a place where (we) old farts can sit around, drink, tell stories, have a pretty GF less than half our age, get meals cooked, house cleaned and do it every day. Sounds like nirvana. The girls that are suited to the retiree scene are not the Dollhouse spotlight girls.
There are so many different communities in AC which all have their own way.
Five days here so far and haven't even hit all of the bars on walking street. Bars are filled with a reality good mix of women from good lookers to not so good. There are many great lookers working in some of the bars, many many walking in the street. I am pleasantly surprised at the scene, beer is cheap at Kokomos only 75 pesos which gives you a great place to people watch and possibly pick up girls walking by. Haven't even hit any perimeter bars, maybe next trip. Is it worth coming out here. I'd say yes. My guess is many province girls come here vs Manila for cheaper rent.
Question is if you live here so you get more action at a cheaper price? Are there more girls here than in Manila that will come to your place for a cheaper price? I'd have to guess not. More bars here than Burgos but also so so many Koreans overspending and ruining the scene. I can say that the dating sites have way for girls in Manila compared to Angeles.
It would be an interesting option to live here for a few months if you could get a room near walking street.
ILuvBrownGirls
09-14-22, 01:28
I barfined a girl 2 days ago and she told me she usually not at bar because customers book her always online before she goes bar. I asked how this is possible and she said there is an app for that. Next day I wanted to extend her and her manager came my condo. I paid bar fine for 2 days more and I asked that app. Manager said that app for Korean only.
Anyone know how this app works and we can use it also? The manager told me mostly stunners barfined without coming bar because I told her I cannot see real stunners in bars mostly.I think the app is called Instagram or iMessage. Girls were heavily into Yahoo Instant Messenger back in 2010 and have been more into setting up dates online every time I returned. I can only imagine what it is like after being away for 6 years. Nevertheless, I am looking forward to returning.
Many on the arms of Koreans, a scattered few on the arms of other foreigners. It's an interesting trip so far, something new. I flew up from Cebu so didn't have to deal with a long bus ride to get here from Manila. Pretty sure the Koreans have a direct flight to Clarke so guessing that's why they are now here in droves. I was wondering about those man purses the Koreans carry, a woman boards a flight and she can bring a small carry on along with her purse. Is it the same with a man purse? And all over the world men carry wallets and put stuff in pockets. How is it that Koreans and Japanese men talked themselves into carrying these purses? You go around Asia you don't see the men in other countries going along with this trend. I have seen YouTube videos where the record hidden video of these establishments, maybe some of those purses are used to record the girls.As someone else already mentioned, establishments like Walking Street AC is a hub for money laundering by the Koreans, just the same as it is in Nana Bangkok with the Japanese, just the same as Cowboy Bangkok with the Iranians, and the Russians and Indians in Pattaya. There is an underworld that is unknown to most sex tourists, a darker side of things. As a sex tourist, you just go about your business, spend money, and don't complain or start trouble. Take whatever scraps that are left for you when the "bosses" preferred clientele have had their fun and first choice. It is how it works everywhere in the world. Try pushing in on the Japanese clubs or massages at Shinjuku and see what happens. Those with the power will always get the best, but they leave enough for the rest to get by. The Korean thing with AC has been going on for more than 4-5 years in the making. Better to just ride the ride, than disappear minus a kidney. Or fall off a balcony somewhere in Thailand. The high level ones don't fight. They have their methods to make everything look accidental.
And with the man purse it all depends on what they have to carry I guess. 2 phones, loose coin bag, wallet, passport, pills, baggies with powder, bundles of cash etc etc. All of that looks and feels kind of silly in 3 tight pant pockets. You are kind of behind in the times when it comes to messenger bags. Ask Indiana Jones. LOL.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gallery/history-of-the-man-bag
Elmer Fuddness
09-14-22, 03:08
So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.
I try to keep it respectful to everyone.
Landed yesterday and took a look at at least 10 bars. I'm surprised by the low quality of women here. I could say 98% of single moms. Am I the only one who can differentiate a single mom from a girl easily by the face or gentlemen who like this shithole really don't care? Burgos in Makati has at least few girls without babies in every bar, yeah not all hot but you can find your type there. Manila is much much better specially the online game. It's been only 2-3 years that I am recognizing single moms from girls easily and get turned off by the earlier. Planning to hit Bangkok and Pattaya later, hope the bars are not full of single moms.
Like Angeles.
Expat American
09-14-22, 08:37
You are the exception not the rule. Older guys and guys that live there do not care as much because they can get a stunner any time they want really. But two week millionaires do not go mongering all around the world seeking average girls! Guys on a budget but only have 2 weeks vacation per year are not taking that long expensive flight to spend two weeks with girls that are ok looking. I have been with both levels of girls. But I do not go showing pictures and bragging to my buddies about the average girls I was with, only the stunners that cause my friends to drool and doubt me at the same time.
.I don't think he is the exception. I look much more for attitude than looks. Almost always the hottest girls have the worst attitudes. ID rather pick a 7 with a great attitude over a snotty 9 any day. A good attitude 7 is a 9 in my book and crappy attitude 9 is a 2.
AsianPursuits
09-14-22, 23:00
It would be an interesting option to live here for a few months if you could get a room near walking street.There are rooms anywhere but if you are living there then I suggest people get further away from Walking St. Normal girls will judge you if you are staying near Walking St. There are many local girls that will ignore profiles when the guy is a tourist or only in town for two weeks. When they have seen you at SM, seen you on dating sites for month then that opens up a whole new demographic of talent.
A longer stay also means you can have non-pressure dates with normal girls. The girls that just want to see you are normal on the first meet. They go home and are then keen to see you for sex after that.
Being there for an extended period also means you can invite in normal girls from Bataan or Tarlac.
If you are of working age then a few hours work at a call center can also keep you interested.
SethMacfarlane
09-15-22, 03:13
So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.Fucking hell Elmer! You're a mad man. I love it! I can't imagine this will be tough to find in the Phils. They love western features and would love a sponsor. Keep us posted.
So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.Some of you guys don't need to multiply.
WestCoast1
09-15-22, 06:04
So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.
Some of you guys don't need to multiply.And I'm probably one of them.
Not sure I understood the gist of EF's post. Is this about unintended kids? Or alternately about having separate families in different countries simultaneously? Or sexing pinay while his wife is in the room?
EF's post reminded of a scene in movie Bull Durham. Millie has just f*cked the baseball team's newest pitcher in the bathroom before the game. Wild sex scene, standing up, crashing into the CR walls and such. Now she's sitting in the stands watching the game with her female friend Annie, watching the new pitcher throw wild pitches:
Annie: "So. How was he"?
Millie: "Well he f*cks like he pitches. All over the place".
So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.If you have really white skin and blue eyes once you let it known you want to have kids with a Filipina you won't be able to keep them away!
NapaSlapper
09-15-22, 10:38
I try to keep it respectful to everyone.
Landed yesterday and took a look at at least 10 bars. I'm surprised by the low quality of women here. I could say 98% of single moms. Am I the only one who can differentiate a single mom from a girl easily by the face or gentlemen who like this shithole really don't care? Burgos in Makati has at least few girls without babies in every bar, yeah not all hot but you can find your type there. Manila is much much better specially the online game. It's been only 2-3 years that I am recognizing single moms from girls easily and get turned off by the earlier. Planning to hit Bangkok and Pattaya later, hope the bars are not full of single moms.
Like Angeles.Unfortunately its not very hard to be disappointed with what Angeles city has to offer.
For guys that are looking for no baby girls then it is an uphill struggle, for those that look for no baby, slim, younger and attractive then even harder, one will have to hunt high and low over many hours and many bars to find such.
The problems don't end there, most no baby, younger, slim attractive girls are either Cherrie girls (virgins) drinks only girls or Asian only girls.
For those like myself who refuse to settle for less than I want or like then barhops in Angeles can get boring real quick, for those that are not fussy and easily pleased then its not too hard to find a bed partner.
Have several expat friends who have such low standards that I would not leave them alone in a room with my 93 year old grandmother for fear of them hitting on her, of course these same guys are quick to report of the stunner they supposedly always get.
Talk by some guys of the better looking girls being less good in bed than ugly girls has not been my experience, the trouble in the new Angeles is finding hot girls that will barfine in the first place, once found then no complaints in the bedroom.
Elmer Fuddness
09-15-22, 17:58
Fucking hell Elmer! You're a mad man. I love it! I can't imagine this will be tough to find in the Phils. They love western features and would love a sponsor. Keep us posted.Well. At least online this isn't as simple or clear. It does seem like a good portion of them online do want support, but they want it as a girlfriend or "wife. " And many of those drop away once they aren't the primary. If I've learned anything through all my time with women, it is that they are very guarded about a man's attention when it comes to provisioning in any way. I've grinded the wife on this a bit and basically mongering in another country is a lower offense than having a steamy lunch date down the road. The relationship part of it, no matter how small is the larger offense of it all. Sort of a flip side of how we feel. I couldn't care less how many lunch dates a woman has with a man, how steamy they are.
Anyways, from my searches, I get the impression that many of these girls are accustomed to a large degree of chicanery and this is one of those things that is much much harder to fake, and pretty much can't be faked at all. I've got 2 hooks so far (out of 30+ generally interested), but I don't know how serious they are. Using the 30% rule, I figure I'll need at least 21 of them by vacation of next year to have 7 who will show up. Either way that was using Tinder fairly moderately, so I suppose if I hit this harder and on more platforms I'll have more than enough potentials. True limit is the amount of time and how lucky I am with anyone's respective cycle.
Elmer Fuddness
09-15-22, 18:11
And I'm probably one of them.
Or alternately about having separate families in different countries simultaneously?
Mainly this. Somehow before my 40's I've checked off pretty much everything off my bucket list and now I'm down to firehosing it, looking for twins, sisters, mom & daughter, having a black kid, Indian kid etc etc. Would like to be taken seriously in my musical endevours, and after that I can consider my trip through life over. I did live hard and fast and it sort of caught up to me and changed my perspective a bit. So I suppose no matter how you look at it, this is somewhat about a legacy. My feelings about the "old books" legacy is thoroughly destroyed, in terms of "raising my kids" and all that. Old models of male prestige are dead and so I'm living for myself. But at the end of the day I've learned the strongest red pill is that no one has your back as a man, period. If you're living to be the good man and "do the right thing" and all that, you better be doing it for you and yourself. Because you're not putting that time and money into a piggy bank, you're throwing it into a well. I lived a long time under the matra of doing everything I could for a women and trying to be the good guy and came to the conclusion there is literally zero benefit to doing that, zero. Honestly, less than zero. I keep telling my wife not to threaten me with a good time because PI is calling me.
For guys that are looking for no baby girls then it is an uphill struggle... There are two types of girls in bars. Single mom's and girls without stretch marks. 😉.
Unfortunately its not very hard to be disappointed with what Angeles city has to offer. For those like myself who refuse to settle for less than I want or like then barhops in Angeles can get boring real quick, for those that are not fussy and easily pleased then its not too hard to find a bed partner.
I too found a mixed bag when I visited AC. I was people watching at Kokomos and I'd see a cute girl walk into a gogo and later I'd see her on the stage and would be unimpressed. From what I could gather is was bigger breasts along with larger butts, rarely would I see large breasts with a slim figure. There were some nice slim girls with great bodies that I barfined while in Angeles, took three different girls and only one had a baby back home (but had a perfect body). Yes there were many out of shape girls as well, for those I would try to get their numbers and work out a cheap side deal if I was living there. I did barfine a 18 why old who from what she said was 'menstruating's' which I thought was code for 'I don't want to barfine with you'. I kept up my charm and talked her into heading to my room. She was back at the bar an hour later and boy I can tell you she was telling the truth LOL. Had to part ways since I didn't want to pay for all of the blood stained bedding, luckily she wore the towel to the bed and it took most of the damage. Funny though how 'menstruating' sounds like 'frustrating' but with 'men' thrown in front of it. Right to the point.
If one was to live in either Makati or Angeles, which city has the most options available? For one drinks seem to be much cheaper in Angeles, getting around also seems a bit easier. Total number of gogo girls I will guess goes to Angeles as well. Why is that?
There are rooms anywhere but if you are living there then I suggest people get further away from Walking St. Normal girls will judge you if you are staying near Walking St. There are many local girls that will ignore profiles when the guy is a tourist or only in town for two weeks. When they have seen you at SM, seen you on dating sites for month then that opens up a whole new demographic of talent. A longer stay also means you can have non-pressure dates with normal girls. The girls that just want to see you are normal on the first meet. They go home and are then keen to see you for sex after that. Being there for an extended period also means you can invite in normal girls from Bataan or Tarlac.Girls are already judging you before they even know where you live, biggest question they have is what brought you to the Philippines. If your staying out away from WS and you take a normal girl on a date, where do you take her? To WS? How far away is far enough away? And if your an older foreigner and she is much younger will taking her to a restaurant in the province be as accepted as taking her to one closer to WS? My girl just told me her friend is seeing a foreigner in his mid 40's and they went out drinking late at night. They got approached by 5 Filipinos and the foreigner made the mistake of turning his back and trying to walk away and got a 5 inch gash on his forehead to remember the rest of his life. This was in Cebu city but the point being is the Filipinos can get jealous when they see an older foreigner with a stunning young lady. So further away might not always be the best place to live.
I try to keep it respectful to everyone.
Landed yesterday and took a look at at least 10 bars. I'm surprised by the low quality of women here. I could say 98% of single moms. Am I the only one who can differentiate a single mom from a girl easily by the face or gentlemen who like this shithole really don't care? Burgos in Makati has at least few girls without babies in every bar, yeah not all hot but you can find your type there. Manila is much much better specially the online game. It's been only 2-3 years that I am recognizing single moms from girls easily and get turned off by the earlier. Planning to hit Bangkok and Pattaya later, hope the bars are not full of single moms.
Like Angeles.All the bars have single moms, you interview enough women with perfect bodies you'll find a good majority have children. All depends on what they have been eating. A diet rich in vegetables will allow a girl to bounce back to a slim body as is most of the girls in Thailand. Girls in the Philippines who start to eat Jollibee will show baby damage. I was chatting with a really really cute girl on PinaLove who gave me her tiktok name and her body seemed amazing and she had one of the largest babies I've ever seen. In those videos you can see a large set of tits under her shirt. I was really getting hopeful things would work out with her. She then sent me a 'sexy photo'. One in a bunny outfit that wouldn't allow her to wear a bra. In that photo the breasts were gone and I realized they must have been sucked dry by the baby. Mom's with small breasts seem to survive the baby milking time much better. A girl without kids is usually trying to go to college, not thinking about making money at the gogo bars.
And with the man purse it all depends on what they have to carry I guess. 2 phones, loose coin bag, wallet, passport, pills, baggies with powder, bundles of cash etc etc. All of that looks and feels kind of silly in 3 tight pant pockets. You are kind of behind in the times when it comes to messenger bags. Ask Indiana Jones. LOL.Don't recall Indiana Jones wearing that bag while he was teaching, he kept his whip in the bag if I recall so unless your into S&M then I can't see the point LOL. Loose coins get left as tips. Two phones? Get a dual sim phone. Wallet in one of the front pockets to protect from pickpockets. Passport keep in the room. Same with powder, your in a foreign country you don't want to end up in their prisons. Bundles of cash. Unlikely 95% of those with man purses have bundles of cash in their bags otherwise the locals would be cutting the strap and running off with them at every opportunity. Behind the times, don't think so just think its idiotic to spend money on a purse. Simple test put it over one shoulder and carry it like a woman carries her purse. Is it still a messenger bag or is it now a purse? Does carrying it a different way effect its GQ status? Now a laptop being in laptop bag, that's acceptable.
AsianPursuits
09-16-22, 03:02
There are childless girls in AC but they rarely work in bars.
So what is it about the single mums? The tummy or the attitude?
The reason I prefer to search out the childless is around mindset. Once the girl has the kid the financial pressure is on her to financially provide for herself, her kid (s) and her parents that now have a job caring for the kids.
Mr Enternational
09-16-22, 03:53
There are childless girls in AC but they rarely work in bars.
So what is it about the single mums? The tummy or the attitude?
This profession is not exactly teeming with single childless chicks. Most of the childless ones are doing it for materialistic gain and not out of necessity.
Expat American
09-16-22, 08:10
I'm back in AC 26-30 Sept. Anyone there tired of bar girl talk want to meet up for a drink to trade war stories and complain how AC sucks now compared to the good old days. LOL Drop me a PM!
FuriousGeorge
09-16-22, 10:20
There is a girl who works at Geckos who is the second hottest chick there. A solid 9 in my book. She has 5 kids. Yes 5. Skinny ripped fit body, she is wild, let me finger her and lapped danced me all night and hit me up off the clock to hook up but unfortunately I never had the pleasure because I was consorting with the hottest girl at Geckos at the time and it was at the end of my stay in AC. To exclude a girl based on kids is foolishness in my book.
NapaSlapper
09-16-22, 12:26
There is a girl who works at Geckos who is the second hottest chick there. A solid 9 in my book. She has 5 kids. Yes 5. Skinny ripped fit body, she is wild, let me finger her and lapped danced me all night and hit me up off the clock to hook up but unfortunately I never had the pleasure because I was consorting with the hottest girl at Geckos at the time and it was at the end of my stay in AC. To exclude a girl based on kids is foolishness in my book.Does the bargirl with the 5 kids come with a free plank of wood for customers to tie to their ass in case they fall in while fucking.
But seriously, I'm glad that you find your taste of girls in geckos bar, for me the last time I saw a fuckable girl in geckos bar was somewhere around 2010, each to their own comes to mind.
Expat American
09-16-22, 16:32
There is a girl who works at Geckos who is the second hottest chick there. A solid 9 in my book. She has 5 kids. Yes 5. Skinny ripped fit body, she is wild, let me finger her and lapped danced me all night and hit me up off the clock to hook up but unfortunately I never had the pleasure because I was consorting with the hottest girl at Geckos at the time and it was at the end of my stay in AC. To exclude a girl based on kids is foolishness in my book.Once in Subic I barfined a 19 yo with 4 kids (yes really, I checked her ID, she was 19). Hot body, flat abs all of it. Pussy wasnt loose either.
There is a girl who works at Geckos who is the second hottest chick there. A solid 9 in my book. She has 5 kids. Yes 5.Last trip I barfined a girl who had 11 cats (if memory serves, my mind was not primarily set on feline accounting at the time) and 0 kids. She was pretty good and stayed LT until she needed to go home to feed the cats in the morning.
Fastpiston
09-17-22, 12:47
I try to keep it respectful to everyone.
Landed yesterday and took a look at at least 10 bars. I'm surprised by the low quality of women here. I could say 98% of single moms. Am I the only one who can differentiate a single mom from a girl easily by the face or gentlemen who like this shithole really don't care? Burgos in Makati has at least few girls without babies in every bar, yeah not all hot but you can find your type there. Manila is much much better specially the online game. It's been only 2-3 years that I am recognizing single moms from girls easily and get turned off by the earlier. Planning to hit Bangkok and Pattaya later, hope the bars are not full of single moms.
Like Angeles.I generally found AC online girls are almost all bar girls.
Manila on-line more general with far fewer bar girls.
AC is a small place and one is easily recognized. Manila obviously is the opposite as long as you don't stay in one small area.
AsianPursuits
09-20-22, 01:19
I generally found AC online girls are almost all bar girls.
.What online app (s) are you using in AC?
How many cost 1 hour short time bareback sex with a beautiful pinay? Is cheaper in the afternoons or mornings instead of in the night?
How many cost a long time?
Do I need an hotel room or this have Girls already beds? Because maybe I could go from Manila with a car without pay hotel room in Angeles.
My idea is find a tradwife in Filipinas and while I'm looking for the correct girl, I need little escapes in order to have sex.
What online app (s) are you using in AC?From most to least professional:
Tinder.
Pina Love.
Filipino Cupid.
All have girls available to meet now.
To exclude a girl based on kids is foolishness in my book.As always, it's dangerous to generalise.
Years ago I was a frequent patron of a pole dancer. Nightly routines gave her a rock hard body, unbelievable stamina, and she had absolutely no signs of a daughter in tow. I moved on to a young 19 yo, also super cute and a killer body but till then no kids. Fast forward 12 mths to a following trip, she has dropped a kid, and her body has been destroyed: stretch marks everywhere, big saggy tits the whole shebang. The changes were astounding. She went from being a popular girl to leaving town because she could no longer attract customers.
AsianPursuits
09-20-22, 22:50
From most to least professional:
Tinder.
Pina Love.
Filipino Cupid.
All have girls available to meet now.That fits with my understanding. I rarely use Tinder in AC or even the west.
PL is my go to app but there are many normal girls on their in AC. Just need to weed out the bargirls.
... there are many normal girls on their in AC. Just need to weed out the bargirls.If you want "normal" girls in AC, then go straight to the source. Frequent SM, banks, real restaurants etc. Girls there will happily meet for a coffee after work and may provide more on subsequent meeting. Much better than weeding through 00's online etc.
Fastpiston
09-21-22, 08:05
That fits with my understanding. I rarely use Tinder in AC or even the west.
PL is my go to app but there are many normal girls on their in AC. Just need to weed out the bargirls.Manila preferable in this regard as normal girls in AC will know the real reason why you're in AC, no matter what excuse you make. They see what's going on all the time. Be ready for the first question 'why are you in AC?
NapaSlapper
09-21-22, 08:31
The problem with good girls that work in banks, insurance company or any other decent job is that she is very unlikely to be seen having coffee or anything else with a foreigner old enough to be her father / grandfather.
Most of these girls come from middle class families, families who sent their daughters to college / university at great expense for the sole reason of their daughters not having to be seen out with old mongers.
In my company there are all female employees, only the security staff are males, not one single girl is married / engaged / dating a foreigner, I attend all the birthdays, engagements, christenings, weddings etc 100% have pinoys of their own age and standing as partners.
Talk of foreigners walking into a bank and getting a date with the young cutie who works there is pure wishful thinking IMHO.
Manila preferable in this regard as normal girls in AC will know the real reason why you're in AC, no matter what excuse you make. They see what's going on all the time. Be ready for the first question 'why are you in AC?I totally agree with you on all counts. However, it's all a big game on both sides of the fence. Everyone asks questions that they know the answers to and pretends to believe the answers. Asking "Why are you here?" Is the same as agreeing to "meet for a coffee" with a 60 yo grandpa.
As you said, Manila is a better option but if it must be AC, then play the game: stay off WS, take her to a meal away from the strip and pretend that you are an innocent couple.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
09-21-22, 11:20
Manila preferable in this regard as normal girls in AC will know the real reason why you're in AC, no matter what excuse you make. They see what's going on all the time. Be ready for the first question 'why are you in AC?I have met and dated plenty of normal chicks in monger destinations and have never been asked why I was there. I think this is a paranoid monger "I am doing something wrong and everybody can see it" thing and not reality.
I have met and dated plenty of normal chicks in monger destinations and have never been asked why I was there. I think this is a paranoid monger "I am doing something wrong and everybody can see it" thing and not reality.True, but I think this is a problem mostly when bringing in non-pros specifically from NCR to AC, then it's a quite common question. Sometimes I've had the the same question posed when bringing BKK girls to Pattaya, but it seems like a less important issue with them, as it's common for Bangkokers to go to Pattaya for the weekend just to hang out on drinking on the beach etc.
The trick is not letting this shit test get to you, yes I flew into Clark and now I'm in a hotelroom near Clark, those are the facts, are you coming or not? If no deal, move on.
The trick is not letting this shit test get to you, yes I flew into Clark and now I'm in a hotelroom near Clark, those are the facts, are you coming or not? If no deal, move on.This is the same with all the touchy questions:
"Are you married?
"Are you here for fun?
Etc.
"Yes, is it a deal breaker?
"No, Its good that you are so honest! LOL.
Mr Enternational
09-22-22, 09:40
True, but I think this is a problem mostly when bringing in non-pros specifically from NCR to AC, then it's a quite common question.I have had normal chicks in Manila ask to go to AC with me.
A poster in the Rio thread a couple of weeks ago said along these same lines that if you are staying in Copacabana (a beach neighborhood of 160,000 people) then you will not be able to get normal chicks in Brazil because they will know you are there for mongering. I was like really dude. Copacabana is the most famous tourist destination in Brazil for not only the world, but Brazilians themselves. But even if you are staying there people will be suspicious of you? After having gotten to know hundreds of non-pros in these monger places I can tell you without a doubt that nobody gives a shit if you are staying there or suspect that you are up to debauchery.
I have had normal chicks in Manila ask to go to AC with me..I can understand a normal BKK family holidaying in Pattaya. There is a reasonable amount to see and do alongside easy access, cheap accommodations etc. But AC?? WTF is a normal Manila resident going to go to AC for?
Mr Enternational
09-22-22, 19:57
I can understand a normal BKK family holidaying in Pattaya. There is a reasonable amount to see and do alongside easy access, cheap accommodations etc. But AC?? WTF is a normal Manila resident going to go to AC for?Beats the hell out of me. Just like my girlfriend at Reign Spa in AC. She never suspected me of messing with other chicks there. She just always knew I had friends that live in AC. And it took a few years before she would even go out with me.
PedroMorales
09-22-22, 20:43
I can understand a normal BKK family holidaying in Pattaya. There is a reasonable amount to see and do alongside easy access, cheap accommodations etc. But AC?? WTF is a normal Manila resident going to go to AC for?I've had Pinays in rooms beside me on more than one occasion. Their clock is different. They are not going there to pick up rice paddy girls. Easy to get to by bus or car, four or more share a double room, do karaoke, shop at the stupid mall (like women do), hit San Fernando, take selfies.
But AC?? WTF is a normal Manila resident going to go to AC for?There are many girls who have heard of Angeles city and what goes on there. My pretty GF at that time from Baybay, Leyte who used to come all the time and stay with me in cebu wanted to go to AC. So next time I booked her a flight from Tacloban to Manila. We went and stayed 2 nights in Angeles city. We did go bar hopping. She hated the place. I guess she probably was approached by some mamasan and heard glowing picture and ofcourse how much money she can make or she had a friend who went and made money. Never talked about the reason she wanted to go. I was just trying to please her.
AsianPursuits
09-22-22, 22:03
I've had Pinays in rooms beside me on more than one occasion. Their clock is different. They are not going there to pick up rice paddy girls. Easy to get to by bus or car, four or more share a double room, do karaoke, shop at the stupid mall (like women do), hit San Fernando, take selfies.Pampanga is known for its food. There are theme parks, water parks.
There are many girls who have heard of Angeles city and what goes on there. My pretty GF at that time from Baybay, Leyte who used to come all the time and stay with me in cebu wanted to go to AC. So next time I booked her a flight from Tacloban to Manila.This is exactly why. I have lived in both places. In Tacloban (and rest of Leyte) these girls dress and behave more conservatively than Leyte (or Samar) girls in AC.
Sailor Jack
09-23-22, 03:35
Sailor Jack is in AC now.
Last night I had a robust counseling session with a wayward, stunningly gorgeous Filipina.
I noticed that she washed her sexy black thong panties in the hotel room sink.
Next morning I find said panties hung out to dry over my toothbrush.
If his were a brand of toothpaste, I just might buy it.
LoveItHere69
09-23-22, 04:07
I have met and dated plenty of normal chicks in monger destinations and have never been asked why I was there. I think this is a paranoid monger "I am doing something wrong and everybody can see it" thing and not reality.BS. Dating means you spend many days together going out to restaurants, shopping, watching TV, and TALKING. So you never talk about yourself during all this time together? Strange because you talk about yourself endlessly on this site. She never asks questions? Really? You do not have to stay in a hotel to raise a few questions. Even when renting an Airbnb a girl can tell if it is your apartment or not by seeing that your suitcase is out, you have very few things for someone living there, and what sort of things you have laying around. The question of are you living there retired or working, long time tourist, or short time tourist will surely come up in conversation.[Deleted by Admin]. [Deleted by Admin] FYI if they are not asking questions about you then they really do not care about you which makes it hard to believe you are dating them.
Don't forget to mention the Hot Air Balloon Festival, but be prepared that may elicit laughs. They know what kind of balloons we're into.
Pampanga is known for its food. There are theme parks, water parks.
DzikaBomba
09-23-22, 07:46
Don't forget to mention the Hot Air Balloon Festival, but be prepared that may elicit laughs. They know what kind of balloons we're into.And there is also this amazing regular firework festival in AC. Or arent they doing it anymore?
I remember this was precovid when they where doing the fireworks once a week or so.
It was always very loud. Like Bombs.
Sailor Jack is in AC now.
Last night I had a robust counseling session with a wayward, stunningly gorgeous Filipina.
I noticed that she washed her sexy black thong panties in the hotel room sink.
Next morning I find said panties hung out to dry over my toothbrush.
If his were a brand of toothpaste, I just might buy it.Hahahaha. Now that's funny.
Some simp on Only Fans will pay you $5000 for that toothbrush. LOL.
Engine Driver
09-23-22, 10:58
The sex activity in Angeles is confined to about three streets. Walking Street, Fields Avenue and Perimeter. These make up about 0. 001% of the total area of Pampanga and collectively contribute to two-fifths of sweet fuck all to the economy. The area is an industrial hub known for manufacturing, BPO, agriculture, food processing, healthcare, education and aviation. This kills the myth that mongers are somehow single handedly supporting the Philippines economy by buying a ladies drink.
Not everyone who lives in the area is involved in prostitution, so just because you go to AC doesn't brand you sex pest.
I've stayed at the ABC hotel many times which is the most debauched place of shelter on the planet. On the few occasions non-hookers have asked me what I'm doing in AC, I told them that I was doing important business at Clark. End of story. No further questioning. Filipinas with minimal education do not probe any deeper. Obviously to pull off this brazen lie, it helps if you bathe once a day and don't wear the same Singha Beer singlet three days in a row. Can't say many fat Australian mongers do bathe. But trust me. The chance of you interacting with humans not involved in the prostitution bubble in AC is pretty remote, so mongers don't have to worry about getting judged.
WestCoast1
09-24-22, 01:49
At this point there is a sharp shortage of swinging peckers in both Burgos and AC. Just ask the girls, or walk into Lion's Pride or Fyre bars on Burgos (or Amors on Ebro St, behind Burgos) and see no male customers, or just walk the street. Its much worse in Burgos.
However for AC. Attached pic was taken recently in AC just after midnight. Not sure if you can zoom in on that (must reduce resolution size to post here), but you can see all the way to the end of WS (MacAurthur Hwy end) from Baccara. While you see some people in the street, they are locals and employees (not customers). Pic taken on a Saturday morning early AM (sad sight). You can see the McDonald's sign in the upper-center background. Consider that there are very few people in this WS pic for a Friday night, and I think there are no customers in this picture, its quite a statement.
Its not always like this. On a different night, around 11:30 pm, I got a massage and then walked WS. It was a bit more busy. Another night, from the McDo end of WS, all the way to JJ grocery store, I walked and counted only 4 male foreigners walking in the street (not to include any gents I saw when I poked my head into any bars, nor inside the open-air restos near Phillies). Two of us struck up a conversation as we both poked our heads into the curtain of one of the bars on WS, and we walked together and separated near JJ's. You will see more Korean bars than before, and a higher concentration Korean / Japanese customers than before, and more girls in the bars than before (and a somewhat better selection than before). Several bars had terrible selections (no ladies under 30, all chublettes). But overall, not that many people. There seems to be a large amount of people in the Phillies / Envy resto area at the start of WS (vibrant), starting around 7-8 pm. Lots of SW and viagra sales. The crowd thins out about 10-11 pm. One could get the impression that are more foreigners sitting in Phillies / Envy / Kok's than there are on WS or in the bars. AC / WS gives the impression that it has become an old-timer's resto hangout area, with some gogo bars up the street for young whipper-snappers to have fun in.
BTW, around on Real St, the old Tropix (or next door, previously Agasaya) has been turned into a pool hall, complete with pretty door barkers trying to get you inside to play pool. Are the barkers GRO? Snooker-and-snatch?
Its still a great place for the instant-gratification warrior. Barfines on WS and Fields are typically p3-4 k, depending the bar. Perimeter bars BF were p2200 - 2500.
Expat American
09-24-22, 06:37
At this point there is a sharp shortage of swinging peckers in both Burgos and AC. Just ask the girls, or walk into Lion's Pride or Fyre bars on Burgos (or Amors on Ebro St, behind Burgos) and see no male customers, or just walk the street. Its much worse in Burgos.
However for AC. Attached pic was taken recently in AC just after midnight. Not sure if you can zoom in on that (must reduce resolution size to post here), but you can see all the way to the end of WS (MacAurthur Hwy end) from Baccara. While you see some people in the street, they are locals and employees (not customers). Pic taken on a Saturday morning early AM (sad sight). You can see the McDonald's sign in the upper-center background. Consider that there are very few people in this WS pic for a Friday night, and I think there are no customers in this picture, its quite a statement.
One could get the impression that are more foreigners sitting in Phillies / Envy / Kok's than there are on WS or in the bars. AC / WS gives the impression that it has become an old-timer's resto hangout area, with some gogo bars up the street for young whipper-snappers to have fun in.
Some bars are very popular and always full (Lollipop, Geckos) because the girls give you high mileage for a lady drink. Korean bars are always empty because punters come, pick up and go to their rooms and probably drink Soju there. Prices are high and quality has dropped so the value proposition of a long expensive flight from the west is not that great anymore. AC is more a 4 day jaunt for people living in Asia and local expats. Still, its a reliable place for bareback sex with young Filipinas at a reasonable, but not cheap, price. It is what it is.
WestCoast1
09-24-22, 07:07
Prices are high and quality has dropped so the value proposition of a long expensive flight from the west is not that great anymore. AC is more a 4 day jaunt for people living in Asia and local expats. Still, its a reliable place for bareback sex with young Filipinas at a reasonable, but not cheap, price. It is what it is.AC is still my recommended go-to place for the 2-week warrior. Even if you skipped the NCR completely, you could effectively barfine daily at the p4000 range and be happy as a pig in mud. P4 k gets a hottie every time. Also nearly completely maskless, as opposed to my returning to the NCR and running into bunches of people still wearing masks (mostly pinoy). Its an odd dichotomy.
WestCoast1
09-26-22, 01:32
Walked down to Perimeter on 2 separate nights. Passed by a hole in the wall place, poked my head in and saw only what appeared to be a mama. Few doors down was another, a girl outside waved me inside. There were no people inside. Another 2 blocks and there were several small such bars. Poked my head into the first to see a girl busy applying makeup and nobody else. The next bar had several girls outside but I didn't go in as barkers girls ignored me. Few doors on, a pretty girl outside asked me to come inside. Once inside there was a mama, who went to a different bar to bring me back a girl to have a drink with. Then went to another bar and found one girl inside. The mama had to run to another bar to fetch our drinks (apparently some bars don't have a bar).
She was attractive, but late 30's, great figure and good face but big buck teeth when she smiled / laughed. The mama went outside and fetched a second girl to sit with me. I declined a drink but she stayed a while with me and the first girl. Second girl was cute and mid-20's. Of all the Perimeter gals I saw, she was the only one really worth a BF. The first girl suggested I barfine them both for a 3-some. Was not tempted. BF price was a very reasonable 2500. I asked if I BF them, how long could they stay? "You say, sir". 11 am? "Yes sir". 12 noon? "Yes sir". 1 pm? "No sir as my shift starts 2 pm. I must go home and prepare". Well, given that there were few (if any) girls in any bar, and no customers, I'd say that's a sense of either boredom or desperation.
Did not take them. Walking back home, I stopped in another place that had half a dozen girls dancing on a stage (real plain-Janes), but didn't stay as the waitress said they were closing in 10 minutes (it was almost 10 pm). Found a similar situation the other night I was there.
Expat American
09-26-22, 06:09
Walked down to Perimeter on 2 separate nights. Passed by a hole in the wall place, poked my head in and saw only what appeared to be a mama. Few doors down was another, a girl outside waved me inside. There were no people inside. Another 2 blocks and there were several small such bars. Poked my head into the first to see a girl busy applying makeup and nobody else. The next bar had several girls outside but I didn't go in as barkers girls ignored me. Few doors on, a pretty girl outside asked me to come inside. Once inside there was a mama, who went to a different bar to bring me back a girl to have a drink with. Then went to another bar and found one girl inside. The mama had to run to another bar to fetch our drinks (apparently some bars don't have a bar).
She was attractive, but late 30's, great figure and good face but big buck teeth when she smiled / laughed. The mama went outside and fetched a second girl to sit with me. I declined a drink but she stayed a while with me and the first girl. Second girl was cute and mid-20's. Of all the Perimeter gals I saw, she was the only one really worth a BF. The first girl suggested I barfine them both for a 3-some. Was not tempted. BF price was a very reasonable 2500. I asked if I BF them, how long could they stay? "You say, sir". 11 am? "Yes sir". 12 noon? "Yes sir". 1 pm? "No sir as my shift starts 2 pm. I must go home and prepare". Well, given that there were few (if any) girls in any bar, and no customers, I'd say that's a sense of either boredom or desperation.
Did not take them. Walking back home, I stopped in another place that had half a dozen girls dancing on a stage (real plain-Janes), but didn't stay as the waitress said they were closing in 10 minutes (it was almost 10 pm). Found a similar situation the other night I was there.The Perimeter is a day time place. Going at 9 pm you get only the saddest leftovers. Try going at 1 pm instead. I've found so many gems there. Young 18 and 19 yos fresh from the farm.
Sailor Jack
09-26-22, 06:30
There is a girl who works at Geckos who is the second hottest chick there. A solid 9 in my book. She has 5 kids. Yes 5. Skinny ripped fit body, she is wild, let me finger her and lapped danced me all night and hit me.
I know her.
I concur with all that. BUT;.
Last time I was in AC was in April 2022. I was in Geckos and had to piss real bad. I actually used the putrid dual sex CR in Geckos. Drained the lizard and then SkinnyHotChick burst in, SkinnyHotChick quickly sat on the piss covered toilet seat, did her business while we chatted, then SkinnyHotChick left without wiping or washing anything, and then SkinnyHotChick returned to the bar to rub her hot little piss covered ass on some guy.
Call me a romantic if you will, but I found that a bit off-putting.
Sailor Jack
09-26-22, 06:59
Typhoon Karding (Noru) passed East to West over Luzon late Sunday (09/25) to early Monday (09/26) morning.
The effect on AC was minimal. There was rain and wind but not anything out of the normal range.
Walking Street was especially dead Sunday night, perhaps people stayed home due to the Typhoon.
Sailor Jack
09-26-22, 08:14
One from the archives. Make that two.
WestCoast1
09-26-22, 09:53
The Perimeter is a day time place. Going at 9 pm you get only the saddest leftovers. Try going at 1 pm instead. I've found so many gems there. Young 18 and 19 yos fresh from the farm.Yes, I remember such from the pre-pandemic days. As I am gone now, question for those there in the past few months, anyone else been pulling from Perimeter in the afternoons? Better selection than what I saw (if you can call it a selection)?
Yes, I remember such from the pre-pandemic days. As I am gone now, question for those there in the past few months, anyone else been pulling from Perimeter in the afternoons? Better selection than what I saw (if you can call it a selection)?Watching the girls in Perimeter bar was my hobby in the afternoon after wake up and brunch. I buy a bottle of water or orange can and LD for ladies. Most of the time I spend in Pony Tail and the mamasan was my friend. All in pre covid time. Sometimes I BF a lady and go for movie and end up in room. Good old time in Perimeter bar just like Soi 6 in Pattaya.
NapaSlapper
09-26-22, 12:54
Yes, I remember such from the pre-pandemic days. As I am gone now, question for those there in the past few months, anyone else been pulling from Perimeter in the afternoons? Better selection than what I saw (if you can call it a selection)?Don't think early or late makes a difference when it comes to perimeter bars, the selection of the very few if any older girls the bars have sucks across the board IMHO.
Perimeter road bars tend to appeal to a few older expats as an early meeting place for a few cheaper cold ones and to tell the same old bull stories of when they were in the SAS, special boat squadron or on covert special opps in Vietnam.
The other favourite topics is how they scored yesterday with an 18 year old stunner 60 years their junior and made her orgasm 10 times in an afternoon and the girl in question refused any payment whatsoever from them.
I think in truth those of us that were around to enjoy perimeter bars way back in the prime have all got fond memories of times spent there, had many a good time barhopping mirrors bar, lost in Asia bar, roadies bar and after school bar all of which were next door to each other.
Alas perimeter road like most of Angeles city is a shadow of its former self with no signs of a come back any time soon.
LoveItHere69
09-26-22, 15:55
A Bit DepressingWalking Street before covid was busy busy. You show us a picture of Walking Street after midnight and it is Deadsville. Even before covid Perimeter after 7:00 pm was Deadsville. Why on earth would you barhop Perimeter late at night and then turn around and do it again? Sorry but most everyone is well aware that no girls are to found after 7:00 pm at Perimeter.
WestCoast1
09-27-22, 01:47
I think in truth those of us that were around to enjoy perimeter bars way back in the prime have all got fond memories of times spent there, had many a good time barhopping mirrors bar, lost in Asia bar, roadies bar and after school bar all of which were next door to each other.
Alas perimeter road like most of Angeles city is a shadow of its former self with no signs of a come back any time soon.Concur.
Walking Street before covid was busy busy. You show us a picture of Walking Street after midnight and it is Deadsville. LIH, that's correct. That picture and information was / is solid intel as to the current state of the place (not pre-covid). I don't recall seeing your pic of something different in the current era. We are all waiting for that.
Even before covid Perimeter after 7:00 pm was Deadsville. Why on earth would you barhop Perimeter late at night and then turn around and do it again? For several reasons, and here is one: There is not much to do in AC outside of WS. Covid has changed many things. A look at the current Perimeter system was desired, to see if it was any better or worse, as its been a few years since I was in the Perimeter bars. A man can be curious. My (multiple) reasons for going are not really fodder for the readership.
Sorry but most everyone is well aware that no girls are to found after 7:00 pm at Perimeter.LIH there is a lack of specificity here. See my original question below in quotes. I was asking for current info only from gents who have current or recent boots-on-the-ground experience. Yes, we know how Perimeter was pre-pandemic. Have you been there since the re-opening, and what is your (or others there since the re-opening) Perimeter experience?
"Yes, I remember such from the pre-pandemic days. As I am gone now, question for those there in the past few months, anyone else been pulling from Perimeter in the afternoons?.
Sailor Jack
09-27-22, 02:36
Last night at 10 pm I walked into Shooters to a riotous good party.
There were two non-Shooters bargirls on stage dancing and engaging in full lesbian cunnilingus on the counter at the stage. LickEE was a buxom tatted up bar **** with an amazing boob job. LickEE was dancing naked and really enjoying being the spectacle. LickER was an average looking tatted bar ****. My guess is that LickEE and LickER are from out of town because I have not seen these two carpetmunchers before.
Then I notice that they are apparently there with a BeardedGuy who is also occasionally joining in on the cunnilingus. Well okay then.
So for thirty minutes it alternated between naked dancing and full cunnilingus.
Sailor Jack found this quite titillating. What's not to like about a free sex show?
Equally entertaining was the reaction the regular Shooters girls on stage. Some seemed disgusted (feigned disgust? Some were clearly as turned on by it was Sailor Jack.
I do believe that I read here that Shooters got in trouble or even closed for this a few months back.
I hope that does not happen again.
But then again, think of all those poor jobless bargirls needing Sailor Jack's loving PESOnality.
Big Kahuna
09-27-22, 02:40
8 - 12 girls working wearing jean shorts.
No beauty queens here. 5 at best.
Open 1 pm to 10 pm except Monday 2 - 11 pm.
On perimeter road by platinum club and Legends club.
If you see Red Planet hotel, you went too far.
Upstairs billiards room that cost 1 k per hour consumable.
LD 290 php.
Beer 80 php.
BF 2500 php.
ElMexicant
09-27-22, 02:50
8 - 12 girls working wearing jean shorts.
No beauty queens here. 5 at best.
Open 1 pm to 10 pm except Monday 2 - 11 pm.
On perimeter road by platinum club and Legends club.
If you see Red Planet hotel, you went too far.
Upstairs billiards room that cost 1 k per hour consumable.
LD 290 php.
Beer 80 php.
BF 2500 php.2500 barfine is equivalent to $42 or 1600 baht? For a 5 range girl in terms of looks? Fuck that. They need to starve or go out of business for proposing those rates.
8 - 12 girls working wearing jean shorts.
No beauty queens here. 5 at best.
Open 1 pm to 10 pm except Monday 2 - 11 pm.
On perimeter road by platinum club and Legends club.
If you see Red Planet hotel, you went too far.
Upstairs billiards room that cost 1 k per hour consumable.
LD 290 php.
Beer 80 php.
BF 2500 php.Happy to hear that Mischief bar is open. In Google map it is still showing to be temporarly closed.
Happy to hear that Mischief bar is open. In Google map it is still showing to be temporarly closed.Mischief has been open for months. I was there back in July.
I was asking for current info only from gents who have current or recent boots-on-the-ground experience. Yes, we know how Perimeter was pre-pandemic. Have you been there since the re-opening, and what is your (or others there since the re-opening) Perimeter experience?Will give Perimeter a final look when I'm (shortly) in AC again. As many here noted, it has not swung back post Covid yet. It was very boring and stocked with high mileage or fuglies a couple months ago when I last checked.
Not a super big fan of WS (although I partook a bit) and I often end up making private arrangements. This time I have already pre-booked reliable pussy to perform the initial pipe cleaning.
Will give Perimeter a final look when I'm (shortly) in AC again. As many here noted, it has not swung back post Covid yet. It was very boring and stocked with high mileage or fuglies a couple months ago when I last checked.
Not a super big fan of WS (although I partook a bit) and I often end up making private arrangements. This time I have already pre-booked reliable pussy to perform the initial pipe cleaning.I live here and can come pretty close to concurring. When you walk past the MB /21st crossroads (past the Petron station) you have Night Moves on the left. Somewhat of a biker bar but everyone is welcome and never have seen any problems. In 5 years the worst thing ever witnessed was an extremely drunk guy being physically taken out of the bar and the owners paid the trike driver to take him home. The girls might not be 10's but they will rape you instead of count until it's over. They will want to stay all night. Candy Bar next door. A new one between opened this week but no report yet.
Steel Man is next if you continue. There you will see some incredibly sexy women except they are men.
Walking Street is for the weekend millionaire. Perimeter is the place for the locals that exercise the cheap poontang culture. Keep going and you will run into the street side version of the bars that the city council members own. All nighters in this area for less than 50 bucks.
...Perimeter is the place for the locals that exercise the cheap poontang culture. Keep going and you will run into the street side version of the bars that the city council members own...Keep walking what way?
Are you talking about the bars / side streets south and west of the Walking Street boom gate or more down towards the Perimeter end?
FuriousGeorge
09-27-22, 23:35
If anyone has the chance step into Vegas Massage and see what's up. Pre covid the two girls there jumped on me raw for 1 k (got to admit they weren't much to look at). Post covid there was a hot girl working there who wanted 5 k. In hindsight I should have done it. What's $100? Funny how you start valuing things relatively when you're in-country.
Off topic I was trying to book Central Park online and all their dates for the next few months say 'sold out'. This is through all the major booking sites, hotels dot com, etc. I called them directly and they said they were available and could book me directly. Don't know what's up but I suspect this is some way to cut out the middle man and make more money? Seems like you're shooting yourself in the foot since I almost just booked a different hotel.
WestCoast1
09-28-22, 00:36
Off topic I was trying to book Central Park online and all their dates for the next few months say 'sold out'. This is through all the major booking sites, hotels dot com, etc. I called them directly and they said they were available and could book me directly. Don't know what's up but I suspect this is some way to cut out the middle man and make more money? Seems like you're shooting yourself in the foot since I almost just booked a different hotel.Ya sometimes I see this issue with other hotels. Listed on various sites (Agoda, booking), but all dates not available. Sending a message to the property thru the Agoda / Booking website gets no response. Usually*.
As to purpose, your suggestion that they are cutting out the middle-man (Agoda or such) seems legit. A more legit option might be for the hotel (CP) to go on their Agoda / Booking accounts and temporarily "De-List" the hotel until further notice ("List"-ing it again later), so that it does not show up at all to the customer.
A hard-to-believe option might be that the CP had agreed to be a covid-only (Quarantine) hotel (Red Planet, Go Hotels, and others did this), but the days of needing extra hospital bedspace or quarantine facilities are over. Spit-balling here.
* Only once, a year ago or more. I saw that a hotel chain in NCR had no dates available for any kind of room. Sending them a message thru Booking got a response (a few weeks later; I was surprised that I got any response), that said as such: "More better you contact us directly for reservation. We have available for your dates requested". As you might expect, my dates requested had already passed when they sent the message. Its the only time that any property has responded in this 'never-available' situation. It shows that at least someone is reading the messages that they are not responding to. I wrote back to the hotel chain: "Isn't it easier for everyone if you simply un-list the property on Booking?" Not surprisingly, no response, and they didn't un-list the property. A month or so later the chain's Agoda / Booking showed dates available.
Off topic I was trying to book Central Park online and all their dates for the next few months say 'sold out'. This is through all the major booking sites, hotels dot com, etc...Same for the Grand Central on Walking Street itself. However, I think it may have closed for good. Shame as it was a great balance of location / facilities / price.
WestCoast1
09-28-22, 00:55
I live here and can come pretty close to concurring. When you walk past the MB /21st crossroads (past the Petron station) you have Night Moves on the left. Somewhat of a biker bar but everyone is welcome and never have seen any problems. In 5 years the worst thing ever witnessed was an extremely drunk guy being physically taken out of the bar and the owners paid the trike driver to take him home. The girls might not be 10's but they will rape you instead of count until it's over. They will want to stay all night. Candy Bar next door. A new one between opened this week but no report yet.
Steel Man is next if you continue. There you will see some incredibly sexy women except they are men.Gents, thanks the responses. I have included 2 pics here, maps of the area. The first pic is of the entire Fields area, from McArthur Hwy to the Red Planet hotel. For reference in this pic, the black circles are ABC hotel and Red Planet. The red circle is the area of MB /21st crossroads (MB = Malabinas St, 21st = Don Juico / Fields Ave), where the bars are that Beavis mentioned (Night Beat, Candy Bar, Steel Man). The second picture is an expanded view of the red circled area.
CarlosDanger
09-28-22, 04:15
I remember visiting Angeles before Covid and the street freelancers scene was disappointing, very few options. However I noticed in some Filipino cities the street freelancer scene has improved post Covid. So I'm wondering how's the street freelancers scene in Angeles now? Is it better or worst than how it used to be?
StudBucket
09-28-22, 04:54
I remember visiting Angeles before Covid and the street freelancers scene was disappointing, very few options. However I noticed in some Filipino cities the street freelancer scene has improved post Covid. So I'm wondering how's the street freelancers scene in Angeles now? Is it better or worst than how it used to be?Carlos I have been going to Angeles for over 10 years. I just got back from Angeles from not having been there since then, and boy was I disappointed in the FL scene as that was my preferred type of gals to meet as well. I was there in February 2020, just when Covid was ramping up. The freelancer and overall scene was way better there at that time than it is now. I just got back from there several weeks ago. Many of the better gals now do not walk in the streets, or freelance in the discos like HiSo before it shut down. Some of the freelancers have setup shop on Facebook, Tinder and other online apps, but quality is hit or miss. For me, 2010-2018 freelance scene was good. It has changed for the worse unfortunately. I am even wondering if I want to go back soon, but probably will lol.
Most of the talk of "Freelancers" has been about Streetwalkers. I'm not in AC now but a few girls think I'm in ABC ready and waiting. Certainly no 10's but several of the girls online, who have offered to scratch my itch, have been very doable. Obviously, promises and delivery don't always match but they seem keen enough. Bids of 3 k overnight haven't met much resistance.
Off topic I was trying to book Central Park online and all their dates for the next few months say 'sold out'. This is through all the major booking sites, hotels dot com, etc. I called them directly and they said they were available and could book me directly. Don't know what's up but I suspect this is some way to cut out the middle man and make more money? Seems like you're shooting yourself in the foot since I almost just booked a different hotel.Pin point the hotel you are planning to stay in Google map. Give the dates and you will get the available agencies quoting the cheapest price. Cross check and book. Don't forget that the price will fluctuate day by day and sometimes it will became cheaper closer to the arrival date if it is not on a peak season.
Warm regards and happy mongering.
Sailor Jack
09-28-22, 07:32
I am a recovering hotelier with 20+ years in the business. I worked for a major international hotel chain whose name 100% of you know. The short answer is this;.
Always book direct with the hotel.
Never use a third party site like Agoda, or any other.
Agoda and many other third party sites often have No contractual agreement with the hotels that are listed on the website. Simply tries to lure in an unsuspecting shopper to the AGODA site with whatever rate and dates for a hotel. Then the third party weasels try to sell that booking to the hotel while taking a huge commission out of it. That is very underhanded.
So why does Central Park show as 'sold out' on Agoda? Another trick from the Agoda weasels, they have no contract with Central Park and Central Park has refused to do business with these weasels. So does AGODA drop Central Park from the Agoda site? Nnnnnoooooooo! Central Park garners Agoda many website visitors, so the weasels leave the hotel they do NOT represent on the Agoda site and try to bait and switch you to some other hotel where they DO get a commission.
I know for a fact that this is what happens with Central Park because I know those owners. The Central Park hotel owners are some of the savviest hoteliers I ever met. They do not put up the third party weasels.
WestCoast1
09-28-22, 09:30
Same for the Grand Central on Walking Street itself. However, I think it may have closed for good. Shame as it was a great balance of location / facilities / price.Did not notice if it was open when I passed it. Its across the street from Vikings bar and Royal Amsterdam hotel. Hotels.com shows the GC as having no available dates for reservation, so its probably closed.
Caveat: These pics are from Google maps, 2021, before the re-opening.
Old And Ugly
09-28-22, 15:27
Did not notice if it was open when I passed it. Its across the street from Vikings bar and Royal Amsterdam hotel. Hotels.com shows the GC as having no available dates for reservation, so its probably closed.
Caveat: These pics are from Google maps, 2021, before the re-opening.Is closed.
LoveItHere69
09-28-22, 17:14
Always book direct with the hotel.
Never use a third party site like Agoda, or any other.This had happened at at least 3 different hotels. I used Agoda or Hotels to book a room, stayed a few days, and then wanted to extend for another day or more. The hotels would not let me book directly with them. They told me they had openings but had to book through the third party hotel website. Why is that?
VictorHugo999
09-28-22, 17:39
Hi SJ,
So how do non Phil dwellers like me get a confirmed room to arrive to when the prices of the hotels are not always available?
Thanks.
Victor.
I am a recovering hotelier with 20+ years in the business. I worked for a major international hotel chain whose name 100% of you know. The short answer is this;.
Always book direct with the hotel.
Never use a third party site like Agoda, or any other.
Agoda and many other third party sites often have No contractual agreement with the hotels that are listed on the website. Simply tries to lure in an unsuspecting shopper to the AGODA site with whatever rate and dates for a hotel. Then the third party weasels try to sell that booking to the hotel while taking a huge commission out of it. That is very underhanded.
So why does Central Park show as 'sold out' on Agoda? Another trick from the Agoda weasels, they have no contract with Central Park and Central Park has refused to do business with these weasels. So does AGODA drop Central Park from the Agoda site? Nnnnnoooooooo! Central Park garners Agoda many website visitors, so the weasels leave the hotel they do NOT represent on the Agoda site and try to bait and switch you to some other hotel where they DO get a commission..
VictorHugo999
09-28-22, 17:57
Thanks for the clear field report (FR).
Sounds like Subic diving and "diving" into FL trip is a lost cause?
Any way to "salvage" as I hope to travel for advanced specialty course, both diving and the other "hobby" (LOL)?
Thanks,
Victor.
This had happened at at least 3 different hotels. I used Agoda or Hotels to book a room, stayed a few days, and then wanted to extend for another day or more. The hotels would not let me book directly with them. They told me they had openings but had to book through the third party hotel website.This is a common occurrence in PH. Not even hinting that I don't need an OR yields a good cash rate. I have thought about this and the closest I've come to an explanation is that the hotels actually pre-sell some % inventory to the booking sites, which these in their turn guarantee to sell retail. This way the hotel can budget with a certain guaranteed level of occupancy, albeit at a crappier revenue. Is this what's happening?
This had happened at at least 3 different hotels. I used Agoda or Hotels to book a room, stayed a few days, and then wanted to extend for another day or more. The hotels would not let me book directly with them. They told me they had openings but had to book through the third party hotel website. Why is that?The opposite has happened to me: stayed a few days on an Agoda booking, tried to extend on the App but they were showing full, went down to the physical reservation desk and booked a room for the extra days. The 99 rooms that the hotel allots to Agoda et al had been sold but the few rooms that the hotel retained for their own web site, tour packages etc were still available. I paid more for the room but at least I had a roof over my head.
FuriousGeorge
09-28-22, 22:55
Today I look at Hotels dot com and magically Central Park is available. Is that related to me calling, who knows. The reason I've used Hotels is they give you every 10th night free so it's basically a discount. When I was there in March I extended by a week down at the front desk and it was very clear that my room was available for however long I wanted it. Pro tip, you could book one night with your credit card, then when you arrive, extend at the front desk with cash and get the 20% discount (I'm going to guess that's tax free for them). I haven't done this but when I extended they recommended that to me.
The opposite has happened to me: stayed a few days on an Agoda booking, tried to extend on the App but they were showing full, went down to the physical reservation desk and booked a room for the extra days. The 99 rooms that the hotel allots to Agoda et al had been sold but the few rooms that the hotel retained for their own web site, tour packages etc were still available. I paid more for the room but at least I had a roof over my head.
Hi SJ,
So how do non Phil dwellers like me get a confirmed room to arrive to when the prices of the hotels are not always available?
Thanks.
Victor.Google the hotel by name and get their email or phone to contact them direct. They will likely have some form of booking page on their web site.
I must say though that, as a customer, I have never had a problem with Agoda. Cheap prices, upfront in / exclusions and very easy to deal with if there are any problems or booking changes. My only issue is that you can't book a hotel for tonight only tomorrow.
I do have friends on the other side and yes, the way they treat the hotels, resorts etc is borderline criminal. Outrageous commissions, payment terms and contractual terms.
Enjoy. G.
Today I look at Hotels dot com and magically Central Park is available. Is that related to me calling, who knows....I'm careful not to window shop for hotels and airfares. Both have tracking in their apps and may present a loss leading price when you first look and it's magically unavailable when you return to actually book.
I search when I'm ready to go and book when I see what I want. Don't come back to confirm everything next week.
WestCoast1
09-28-22, 23:00
This had happened at at least 3 different hotels. I used Agoda or Hotels to book a room, stayed a few days, and then wanted to extend for another day or more. The hotels would not let me book directly with them. They told me they had openings but had to book through the third party hotel website. Why is that?Because the third party sites like Agoda each buy a set number of rooms each night, in advance. Agoda has dibs on those rooms, and you and me become the sub-renters (or sub-lets). The hotel can not rent those rooms, even if they are empty, as they belong to Agoda, in the same way that the hotel can not rent your room that you have already rented. Third-party entities (Agoda, Hotels.com, Booking) pre-rent rooms at a discount as they are buying large numbers of rooms, then rent them to you and me for more than they paid, and less than the hotel is charging.
extend at the front desk with cash and get the 20% discount (I'm going to guess that's tax free for them).It maybe a dodgy tax free cash deal. More likely savings due to not having to pay the App's commission. These commissions can be 30 or 40% so it's understandable that the hotels are keen to avoid them. For this reason the Apps actually have a contractual clause that they are offered the lowest price and cannot be undercut.
Good for us. Not good for hoteliers.
Enjoy. G.
Gen X Baer
09-29-22, 03:04
Former Front Office Manager here.
Most high class hotels (5 star), and with a management team that knows how to use their brain will more then likely be ok and smart enough to price match directly at the hotel so they can avoid paying commission to 3rd party booker's. If their reservation manager isn't lazy, they will communicate and lower the blocked room count with the 3rd party so they can use the room. 3rd party sites are required to provide xxx number of rooms per month / year anyways so unless it's sold it's a loss for both.
4 star and belows. Up to luck. They might match. They might not care and not want to work and just make you book via 3rd party so less work for them.
If your trying to book on same date and it's impossible as day has carried over to next day (midnight per se), take an initiative to snap shot the price you saw before and ask if they can price match. If the reception is lazy and declines (which is a loss of revenue for them), go ahead and leave them a. Ice slap of a review on trip advisor or whatever site they use for benchmarking, so that their FOM or GM can see the team isn't interested in making money and turning away walk in guests. See if that changes attitude of the establishment in few days LOL.
Former Front Office Manager here.
Most high class hotels (5 star), and with a management team that knows how to use their brain will more then likely be ok and smart enough to price match directly at the hotel so they can avoid paying commission to 3rd party booker's. If their reservation manager isn't lazy, they will communicate and lower the blocked room count with the 3rd party so they can use the room. 3rd party sites are required to provide xxx number of rooms per month / year anyways so unless it's sold it's a loss for both.
4 star and belows. Up to luck. They might match. They might not care and not want to work and just make you book via 3rd party so less work for them.
If your trying to book on same date and it's impossible as day has carried over to next day (midnight per se), take an initiative to snap shot the price you saw before and ask if they can price match. If the reception is lazy and declines (which is a loss of revenue for them), go ahead and leave them a. Ice slap of a review on trip advisor or whatever site they use for benchmarking, so that their FOM or GM can see the team isn't interested in making money and turning away walk in guests. See if that changes attitude of the establishment in few days LOL.Applying 1st world logic in Angeles City works about as well as grilling a popsicle. The employees will do what their boss tells them to and can care less about whether or not they do business with you. And how many people on a monger board rent 5 star hotels? Especially in AC where 5 star is pretty much non existent.
WestCoast1
09-29-22, 08:21
Applying 1st world logic in Angeles City works about as well as grilling a popsicle. The employees will do what their boss tells them to and can care less about whether or not they do business with you. And how many people on a monger board rent 5 star hotels? Especially in AC where 5 star is pretty much non existent.So basically, its a sh*t-show, much like before pandemic? All systems nominal.
Mr Enternational
09-29-22, 12:49
Applying 1st world logic in Angeles City works about as well as grilling a popsicle. The employees will do what their boss tells them to and can care less about whether or not they do business with you. LOL. He said all that as if this was the Paris thread. I learned what you said a long time ago when I went to McDonald's at the end of Fields and tried to get a burger without onions. All I did was confuse the fuck out of them and have to just take the onions off myself. They were taught to make it with onions so as far as they were concerned that is the only way the burger could come. All that first world thinking out of the box shit is not a PI trait.
Sailor Jack
09-30-22, 06:38
The best source for current entry requirements is YOUR AIRLINE. Think about it, airlines move tens of thousands of people into the Phils, including their own employees. Airlines MUST have these details correct and up to the minute.
I have found that even official Philippines websites to be out of date (WTF? Certainly, do not rely on information here or on any other website. Do your own homework.
My requirements (09/2022) were;.
1) ONE HEALTH PASS; You must sign up within 72 hours of departure. Covid vaccination proof required. Fill out the online form (5 minutes if your information is assembled) and you will get a QR code instantly.
2) PROOF OF COVID VACCINATION.
3) EXIT FLIGHT FROM PHILS (more on this below).
Philppines requires that you hold an exit airline ticket from Phils. This ticket should depart WITHIN 30 DAYS of arrival. Otherwise some jerk might hassle you.
Best to PRINT 1) and 2) and 3), highlight key details, encase in plastic sheets. This makes it look like you know what you are doing.
Pro tip; I notice that people who put 1) and 2) and 3) on their phone instead of actually printing it all really slowed down the line. Of course, you carry a backup copy on your phone.
RECENT COVID TEST; not required.
HEALTH INSURANCE; not required.
PROOF OF STRONG MORAL CHARACTER; fortunately, not required.
In my case, I have no definite plan on leaving Phils so I did book a one way ticket into the Phils. I know of two options to produce an exit ticket.
ONWARDTICKET.COM
This worked for me. I 'rented' a REAL airline ticket out of the Phils. The $14 ticket is good for 48 hours, you can get a ticket good for two weeks for $63. Site is easy to use. Best to make sure this booking is on an airline that is not easy for a gate agent to check (NOT the gate agent's own airline or affiliate). Onwardticket.com gave me a ticket to BKK through Seoul on JEJU AIR.
JEJU AIR? WTF I thought, did I just get scammed? No, It IS a real Korean Airline. I have never heard of them. No way a busy gate agent can run that down. Perfect!
FAKE TICKET SITES.
There are several of these around. You provide all the details and you get a total fake ticket printed. I did not think their sample ticket looked authenticate enough. I got about halfway through the process, the site was difficult to use, and my spidey-senses made me think I was being phished. One of my friends has success with these sites. Sorry no details.
1) ONE HEALTH PASS; You must sign up within 72 hours of departure. Covid vaccination proof required. Fill out the online form (5 minutes if your information is assembled) and you will get a QR code instantly.
2) PROOF OF COVID VACCINATION.
Correct intel, you might want to add to that you need three shots (for Pfizer / Moderna) to be considered "boostered" and eligible for test-free entry. They were picky about the dates, otherwise it was a breeze coming in with a screenshot of the QR code.
The best source for current entry requirements is YOUR AIRLINE. Think about it, airlines move tens of thousands of people into the Phils, including their own employees. Airlines MUST have these details correct and up to the minute.
I have found that even official Philippines websites to be out of date (WTF? Certainly, do not rely on information here or on any other website. Do your own homework.
My requirements (09/2022) were;.
1) ONE HEALTH PASS; You must sign up within 72 hours of departure. Covid vaccination proof required. Fill out the online form (5 minutes if your information is assembled) and you will get a QR code instantly.
2) PROOF OF COVID VACCINATION.
3) EXIT FLIGHT FROM PHILS (more on this below).
Philppines requires that you hold an exit airline ticket from Phils. This ticket should depart WITHIN 30 DAYS of arrival. Otherwise some jerk might hassle you.
Best to PRINT 1) and 2) and 3), highlight key details, encase in plastic sheets. This makes it look like you know what you are doing.
Pro tip; I notice that people who put 1) and 2) and 3) on their phone instead of actually printing it all really slowed down the line. Of course, you carry a backup copy on your phone.
RECENT COVID TEST; not required.
HEALTH INSURANCE; not required.
PROOF OF STRONG MORAL CHARACTER; fortunately, not required.
In my case, I have no definite plan on leaving Phils so I did book a one way ticket into the Phils. I know of two options to produce an exit ticket.
ONWARDTICKET.COM
This worked for me. I 'rented' a REAL airline ticket out of the Phils. The $14 ticket is good for 48 hours, you can get a ticket good for two weeks for $63. Site is easy to use. Best to make sure this booking is on an airline that is not easy for a gate agent to check (NOT the gate agent's own airline or affiliate). Onwardticket.com gave me a ticket to BKK through Seoul on JEJU AIR.
JEJU AIR? WTF I thought, did I just get scammed? No, It IS a real Korean Airline. I have never heard of them. No way a busy gate agent can run that down. Perfect!
FAKE TICKET SITES.
There are several of these around. You provide all the details and you get a total fake ticket printed. I did not think their sample ticket looked authenticate enough. I got about halfway through the process, the site was difficult to use, and my spidey-senses made me think I was being phished. One of my friends has success with these sites. Sorry no details.Good info here. What about fake accommodation sites that you can show to family to prove that you are not in a known mongering destination?
Does anyone know if the 'Fly The Bus' or 'Southern Cross' buses are still operating? Are there any foreigner buses that travel back and forth from AC to Manila? Or Subic? I know the public buses are still running.
WestCoast1
10-01-22, 21:19
Good info here. What about fake accommodation sites that you can show to family to prove that you are not in a known mongering destination?On Agoda, many hotels offer two prices for the same room: 1) The regular (higher usually) priced room, with a free cancellation (REFUND); and 2) The lower priced room that comes with NO REFUND. See pic. You could just make a reservation for somewhere in your safe non-mongering city at the higher-priced room, print it out, then cancel it for a refund.
"I am NOT in Philippines drinking with Westy. Honey I am in Scotland golfing!" Of course now you must photoshop some fake pics of yourself on the green.
The best source for current entry requirements is YOUR AIRLINE. Think about it, airlines move tens of thousands of people into the Phils, including their own employees. Airlines MUST have these details correct and up to the minute.Yes and no. There have been several times where I have had to show airlines staff thier own policies or how X passport is treated by Z country.
Having said that, tread carefully because if you piss them off, then you are going nowhere.
Enjoy. G.
Sailor Jack
10-02-22, 01:54
This had happened at at least 3 different hotels. I used Agoda or Hotels to book a room, stayed a few days, and then wanted to extend for another day or more. The hotels would not let me book directly with them. They told me they had openings but had to book through the third party hotel website. Why is that?These hotels have simply 'farmed out' their entire inventory.
Hotel Management made a decision to let AGODA handle their entire reservation system. These hotels are in essence throwing up their hands and saying we cannot manage reservations for our hotel. IMHO this is extraordinarily bad management and they lose money by doing this.
That does not mean you should not stay there. Some of these small hotels can be perfect for the Monger. But you got to do extra leg work to make a reservation.
Sailor Jack
10-02-22, 02:05
Hi SJ,
So how do non Phil dwellers like me get a confirmed room to arrive to when the prices of the hotels are not always available?
Thanks.
Victor.My suggestion is to use the AGODA weasels or other third party site to find the hotel that you want. Then do the legwork to contact the hotel direct to book. Yes, there are some hotels where this is impossible.
Related note; when booking flights I use meta searches (Kayak.com, Google Flights) to find the best deal and then I go direct to the airline site to book the same flight (s).
Sailor Jack
10-02-22, 02:17
Jessica, Wari princess from Mindanao.
PedroMorales
10-02-22, 10:31
Yes and no. There have been several times where I have had to show airlines staff thier own policies or how X passport is treated by Z country.
Having said that, tread carefully because if you piss them off, then you are going nowhere.
Enjoy. G.I have found I useful, in the Covid chaos, to get details from various sources with the airline funded join sherpa https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions?affiliateId=sherpa&language=en-US being very good but not sufficient. I checked ferry companies too as this was important with various countries changing their rules from one day to the next. Eg Dutch people could fly from Portugal to the Netherlands but not from Spain, evne though they could go from Spain to Portugal and then fly.
I would not rely on airline / airport staff who often get the passports (and therefore v isa requirements) of the PLR of China and the Republic of China (Taiwan) refused. Also, some Western fascist countries ask you to propduce cash. But some travellers from some countries eg Japan have been refused for having plastic.
I've been pulled for having no check in luggage and I explain to them I do not see heck in luggage when entering or exiting the Philippines as they are crooks.
I don't think they run these days. The big buses are not bad.
Does anyone know if the 'Fly The Bus' or 'Southern Cross' buses are still operating? Are there any foreigner buses that travel back and forth from AC to Manila? Or Subic? I know the public buses are still running.
LoveItHere69
10-02-22, 13:59
Yes and no. There have been several times where I have had to show airlines staff thier own policies or how X passport is treated by Z country.
I was checking into my flight which made a plane change in China with a 3 hour layover. The ticket agent lady asked me if I had a visa and I informed her I do not need one. First, I am not leaving the airport so do not need a visa. Second, China had just implemented a 48 hour visa free stamp.
CenTexCrash
10-02-22, 17:38
On Agoda, many hotels offer two prices for the same room: 1) The regular (higher usually) priced room, with a free cancellation (REFUND); and 2) The lower priced room that comes with NO REFUND. See pic. You could just make a reservation for somewhere in your safe non-mongering city at the higher-priced room, print it out, then cancel it for a refund.
"I am NOT in Philippines drinking with Westy. Honey I am in Scotland golfing!" Of course now you must photoshop some fake pics of yourself on the green."Fam, I am going to Seoul and Busan".
Two weeks later:
"Hey CenTex! Google Maps here! It's been two weeks since your visits to Fields Street, Burgos Street, LA Cafe, care to leave any reviews?
Thank you, Google.
"Fam, I am going to Seoul and Busan".
Two weeks later:
"Hey CenTex! Google Maps here! It's been two weeks since your visits to Fields Street, Burgos Street, LA Cafe, care to leave any reviews?
Thank you, Google.Hahaha. Not to mention FB, Google etc's targeted advertising.
"Honey, why am I getting all these suggestions for Viagra and ST hotels in Pattaya?
I made visit to Angeles from the USA after 3 years. Here are my experiences:
Bars: Went to Club Sky and another one across from La Bamba. The bar fine was 4000-5000 PP range. Girls were decent. Depending on girl it could be long or short time.
Fields avenue was business, but you see many places on walking street closing down.
Hotels: Stayed at the ABC. A little pricey but made up for it in terms of great service and quality food.
Expat American
10-03-22, 04:42
I spent another 5 days in AC and here are some general observations.
1. Monday to Wed is very slow. Not many mongers but a lot of girls. Things start picking up Thu for the weekend.
2. A lot of bars are Korean owned but the girls seem to go with everyone. I barfined out of 3 Korean owned bars and the girls all agreed with no fuss. A good thing about the Korean bars is the girls are trained to go Long Time. I barfined a couple out of a bar at 2 pm and they stayed through the next morning with no issues and 3 x boom boom was understood. Plus they at least have some standards for the girls they hire.
3. Some bars had not a single girl you would even buy a drink for let alone bar fine.
4. Why is it that waitresses are prettier than the dancers in almost all the bars?
5. Girls attitudes vary a lot. In Lollipop and Shooters the girls were energetic, dancing, lap dancing for drinks and wear bikinis. In 123 bar they wore their street clothes and sat on the stage with their back to customers playing on their phones. Guess which ones were making drink money? LOL.
6. You can find a gem now and then at the Raymond ST bars. I found a skinny 18 yo that probably weighed 75 lbs but was the wildest thing in bed. All for 1500 Peso.
Anyway, 2 trips to AC this year is probably enough for me. Probably hit Pattaya next time.
Sailor Jack
10-03-22, 07:34
This girl is far better looking than this pic shows. She was damn near perfect and she sure knew it. She was a good performer but she had a bitchy little attitude. That just increased the joy I felt when I grabbed her by the ears and pounded my turgid trouser snake against the back of her throat.
GentileBear
10-05-22, 23:52
I have another handle on Pi at Night and been going to AC since 2005. I ate at Louis's brothers' Pizza place a few times. Never met Louis himself but have met many who knew him.
Was Louis kidnapped and then murdered? Is that the jist of it? It is a a topic that can't be posted on PI at Night. I am just curious. Last I heard is his club High Society was doing great along with his hotel and then someone kidnapped him for ransom. Or at least that seems like what happened.
Was it like the guy who sold Cheese and food around AC who wore a backwards hat? Then a gang on motorcycles killed him. Apparently for taking customers?
I am sure this post is esoteric for most of you all. And if you are still reading. It would seem keeping a very owe profile and NOT competing with local businesses is quite healthy to say the least.
As far as Louis from Louis Grand goes. I am simply curious. Can't understand why I can't post about it on other boards.
AsianPursuits
10-06-22, 04:58
I have another handle on Pi at Night and been going to AC since 2005. I ate at Louis's brothers' Pizza place a few times. Never met Louis himself but have met many who knew him.
Was Louis kidnapped and then murdered? Is that the jist of it? It is a a topic that can't be posted on PI at Night. I am just curious. Last I heard is his club High Society was doing great along with his hotel and then someone kidnapped him for ransom. Or at least that seems like what happened.
Was it like the guy who sold Cheese and food around AC who wore a backwards hat? Then a gang on motorcycles killed him. Apparently for taking customers?
I am sure this post is esoteric for most of you all. And if you are still reading. It would seem keeping a very owe profile and NOT competing with local businesses is quite healthy to say the least.
As far as Louis from Louis Grand goes. I am simply curious. Can't understand why I can't post about it on other boards.I think a version is posted openly on the internet. I recall it was to do with asset ownership remembering that foreigners have restrictions on what they can own. Therefor they they need to have local business partners. As the net worth of the investment would have been growing there would have been envy about the returns being received. Eventually it would have become cheaper to have the gentleman removed and disappeared allowing the assets to be wholly owned by the surviving business partners.
I think the "proof" that he wasn't murdered was that after his disappearance his phone was calling or messaging from Thailand. Problem was that his passport was still in PH.
I see that the hotel itself is looking pretty rundown.
AsianPursuits
10-06-22, 04:59
I have another handle on Pi at Night and been going to AC since 2005. I ate at Louis's brothers' Pizza place a few times. Never met Louis himself but have met many who knew him..Try this link for one version: https://3dprint.com/149554/where-is-lewis-yakich/.
LoveItHere69
10-06-22, 05:03
I have another handle on Pi at Night and been going to AC since 2005. I ate at Louis's brothers' Pizza place a few times. Never met Louis himself but have met many who knew him.
Was Louis kidnapped and then murdered? Is that the jist of it? It is a a topic that can't be posted on PI at Night. I am just curious. Last I heard is his club High Society was doing great along with his hotel and then someone kidnapped him for ransom. Or at least that seems like what happened.
Was it like the guy who sold Cheese and food around AC who wore a backwards hat? Then a gang on motorcycles killed him. Apparently for taking customers?
I am sure this post is esoteric for most of you all. And if you are still reading. It would seem keeping a very owe profile and NOT competing with local businesses is quite healthy to say the least.
As far as Louis from Louis Grand goes. I am simply curious. Can't understand why I can't post about it on other boards.Foreigners can not own property / land (FYI a condo is not land) so must have local partners who will own 51%. Business does good so the foreigner disappears thanks to his business partners and rice field nearby. Now the partners who once owned 51% now own 100% through some simple contractual legalize.
Same story is the foreigner who thinks he has rights and the law will be fair to him marries a Filipina. They build or buy a house. They go on a week vacation and when they return her family and her first real Filipino husband have moved in. Foreigner is kicked to the curb and not a damn thing he can do about it 99% of the time since they will have family and friends in the justice system and tons of witnesses saying the foreigner did X, why and Z to the poor girl.
I have another handle on Pi at Night and been going to AC since 2005. I ate at Louis's brothers' Pizza place a few times. Never met Louis himself but have met many who knew him.
Was Louis kidnapped and then murdered? Is that the jist of it? It is a a topic that can't be posted on PI at Night. I am just curious. Last I heard is his club High Society was doing great along with his hotel and then someone kidnapped him for ransom. Or at least that seems like what happened.
Was it like the guy who sold Cheese and food around AC who wore a backwards hat? Then a gang on motorcycles killed him. Apparently for taking customers?
I am sure this post is esoteric for most of you all. And if you are still reading. It would seem keeping a very owe profile and NOT competing with local businesses is quite healthy to say the least.
As far as Louis from Louis Grand goes. I am simply curious. Can't understand why I can't post about it on other boards.Expats don't want to talk about Lewis' disappearance because they don't want to end up like him. Obviously, plenty of folks know what happened, and there were a couple others that disappeared also and one expat businessman who left AC and has never returned. It is such a shame that a guy with his vision and business acumen ended up as he did. Also, the Lewis Grand is currently closed and is in such a shameful state of disrepair. He disappeared on November 6th of 2015: raise a glass on that day for a real legend of AC.
Sailor Jack
10-06-22, 09:16
Laundry service in AC is quite good, and cheap.
I pay 200 p-400 p per week and I do go through a lot of sweaty, sex soiled clothes.
This week, however, I found an additional item in my cleaned laundry that was not mine; a pair of women's panties.
Even worse; they were granny panties.
On the up side, the granny panties were a perfect fit and when I wear them I have all these strange new feelings.
WestCoast1
10-06-22, 15:19
This week, however, I found an additional item in my cleaned laundry that was not mine; a pair of women's panties. Even worse; they were granny panties.
On the up side, the granny panties were a perfect fit and when I wear them I have all these strange new feelings.Ahem. I'd like those back, please.
Was it like the guy who sold Cheese and food around AC who wore a backwards hat? Then a gang on motorcycles killed him. Apparently for taking customers?
Is this about the white guy who sold chocolates and snacks inside the bars as an ambulant vendor, or another guy? If I recall correctly that guy (Belgian?) was once attacked by someone, but survived that attempt.
Engine Driver
10-06-22, 21:00
The Lewis Grand has been in a state of disrepair since 2015 when the owner disappeared. It's a big crumbling mess. In its heyday it had the biggest bed I had ever seen in the deluxe room. It could comfortably fit four hookers and one fat monger.
Does anyone know much about the owner of the ABC Hotel, Gerard Heinen? Is he the son of a Philippines senator? He's half Dutch and half Filipino. GE is a good friend of his it seems. Anyhow, here is IG:
https://instagram.com/g.heinen?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
GentileBear
10-06-22, 21:30
Thanks guys. Didn't think to Google him. Man what a Saga. Hope is in Thailand under an assumed name or something. But in any regard your comments are somewhat consistent to what my guess was. Basically trust no one and a business deal gone bad mixed with greed and lust. Thanks again Asian Pursuits, LoveIthere69 and DocWiltro for the Wisdom and links.
Pete Nut. That is Chocolate Dave. Different person. I of course bought his chocolates and recycled them to the girls. He would walk into Champagne club and I sometimes would buy. Nice guy. Heard he got shot. But survived.
The guy who sold cheese who was murdered was named Billy. He had the handle Amarillodelsol. Ironically it seems the same type of situation. I am not an expat but it does make sense to really stay below the radar and not get into business. Especially with partners over there.
Peace to all.
That is Chocolate Dave. Different person. I of course bought his chocolates and recycled them to the girls. He would walk into Champagne club and I sometimes would buy. Nice guy. Heard he got shot. But survived.Thanks for clearing that up. Nice guy yes, started out as a maverick white vendor but was accepted into the local Vendors association and came with their patches. He started out making his own (Belgian) chocolates, but later switched to cheap Chinese chocolate. But I guess it worked, guys don't come to AC for quality chocolate. Or anything quality for that matter.
Fastpiston
10-07-22, 13:47
Foreigners can not own property / land (FYI a condo is not land) so must have local partners who will own 51%. Business does good so the foreigner disappears thanks to his business partners and rice field nearby. Now the partners who once owned 51% now own 100% through some simple contractual legalize.
Same story is the foreigner who thinks he has rights and the law will be fair to him marries a Filipina. They build or buy a house. They go on a week vacation and when they return her family and her first real Filipino husband have moved in. Foreigner is kicked to the curb and not a damn thing he can do about it 99% of the time since they will have family and friends in the justice system and tons of witnesses saying the foreigner did X, why and Z to the poor girl.Same stories come out of Thailand.
House built, foreign guy makes a short trips.
To their country. On his return, wife girlfriend is not around and rest of family refuse his entry. Money Gone?
GoodEnough
10-07-22, 13:52
Same stories come out of Thailand.
House built, foreign guy makes a short trips.
To their country. On his return, wife girlfriend is not around and rest of family refuse his entry. Money Gone?Except the part about marrying a Filipino who's already married is crap. All legal marriages here are registered and proof the eligibility to marry must be presented. Yes, horror stories abound and yes, some of them are true, but the part about marrying a Filipina who's already married. Not so much.
GE.
LoveItHere69
10-07-22, 23:53
Except the part about marrying a Filipino who's already married is crap. All legal marriages here are registered and proof the eligibility to marry must be presented. Yes, horror stories abound and yes, some of them are true, but the part about marrying a Filipina who's already married. Not so much.
GE.Divorce is illegal in the Philippines except for rare exceptions but happens all the time. In the Phils you can have someone whacked for $500 by two guys on a motorcycle. But I can not get a registered marriage to disappear for $100? You think there is some countrywide database for this? Most are locally filed whether it be paper or electronic.
FYI Back in the day (just 10 years ago) I did not know a single bar girl with a fake ID. I knew several. But that could not be possible because that too has a centralized database. Phils does not even have a Social Security type system with unique numbers to identify their citizens.
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