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Sailor Jack
10-08-22, 00:38
SE from Manila. I would give her an 8 or so in looks. In my earlier mongering days I likely would have passed on this one, but something in the interview told me SE was a real player. Damn – did I get that correct, and then some!

Back in the hotel room I get SE undressed and I find SE is much hotter than I thought – and a perfect little ass!

Game on!

Now here things take a turn. SE wants to do all the driving. Well okay then Filipina, let's see what ya got. First, SE starts sucking my custard launcher so hard I thought my skull was going to cave in. At one point I wanted to tell SE that she was sucking too hard (something that I did not think was possible) but I found that my mouth was not able to form words.

I lost track of time, but this LBFM put me through three rounds of some truly hard fucking.

There was no kissing.

There was no cuddling.

There was no tenderness of any kind!

Just three solid rounds of wake-up-the-neighbors furniture-breaking how-did-we-end-up-over-here down-and-dirty fucking.

She treated me like a human dildo!

After, round three I told her to leave my meat puppet alone and that I had to sleep.

She got up, leaned against the counter, slowly smoked a cigarette, and just kind of looked at Sailor Jack lying there on the bed – panting and sobbing.

I managed round 4 in the morning. My back and my pink cigar were sore for days. But it was a good sore.

WestCoast1
10-08-22, 02:27
Except the part about marrying a Filipino who's already married is crap. All legal marriages here are registered and proof the eligibility to marry must be presented. Yes, horror stories abound and yes, some of them are true, but the part about marrying a Filipina who's already married. Not so much.Ya the idea that a pinay would marry twice in Phils, on the possibility of the foreigner husband *might* fork over money for property and a home, might be out there. While its possible that the family would end up with the property / home and the foreigner ejected from the place, its also quite possible the pinay would be jailed and prosecuted for: 1) Sleeping with another man while still married to the first husband; 2) Falsifying documents (the CenOMar); and 3) Bigamy. Also there is a better than 50% chance she'd get stopped from marriage at the Cenomar level. Who would risk that? Even if she was successful at getting the land / home for her family, the same law enforcement that might toss the foreigner from his wife's property, might be facing his lawyer who would be insisting they investigate the double-marriage wife herself. Failure to do so might incriminate the same law enforcers.

That said, it happens. During the last year I met 3 different gents that had given his pinay (GF, not wife) money to buy land. Then he had a home built on it for the new blended family. Then he was later not allowed to return to the home (various reasons). Lesson learned.

Threadbare
10-08-22, 02:59
I don't think they run these days. The big buses are not bad.These private buses are not running at the moment. I'm in AC now and was planning g to visit Subic, but only public bus is avaiable. Or private car.

Of course. Same goes for Manila. Bus from Dau or Gemini bus from SM Clark.

Threadbare
10-08-22, 03:51
Arrived here on Monday, for the first time in nearly 3 years. For information, you need to have vaccination proof and One Health Pass. This is easy to do online and costs $75. Without this you will not be allowed on your flight.

Monday night I found a nice FL along Felds near 711 store, good girl and good service too, everything I wanted. FL prices seem to range from 1500 to 2500ST up to 4 - 5 k LT. Went out again later, there are many girls hustling, and quite a few who aren't girls, some of these are quite young and attractive. Or maybe I'm just getting old. Not so many mongers, which means more intense hustling from the girls and ungirls. Tuesday I went to Kokomos for lunch and as I got close spotted a little cutie I quite liked but she was ignoring me. There was a guy trying to sell me Ciallis, and I got him to fix me up with cutie, so after lunch with her, took her back. She didn't have long but did a good job for me, BJ and sex. Turns out she was on her way to work in Shooters bar. Later I decided to try the Jelipsum massage with HJ, mentioned on here. It's really good and recommended. I took a trike to Korea Town Jolibee and kept walking along Don Juico to the yellow building on the left called Kakao, its about 200 metres past the Jolibee. Once you know it, you could take the trike there. In the evening I had a visit from an old flame from previohs visits, who also did a nice number on me, but she couldn't stay over as she had to work early in the morning. I'm staying as usual in Envy Hotel it is great for me, small convenient and very private, bit noisy at night in case you want to sleep before 3 or 4 am though. More later.

Pute Nut
10-08-22, 05:35
Arrived here on Monday, for the first time in nearly 3 years. For information, you need to have vaccination proof and One Health Pass. This is easy to do online and costs $75. Without this you will not be allowed on your flight.What's the 75 bucks for? Vaccination card?

https://ottawape.dfa.gov.ph/index.php/2016-04-13-06-16-59/advisories/2182-advisory-on-fraudulent-one-health-pass-website

Engine Driver
10-08-22, 05:38
These private buses are not running at the moment. I'm in AC now and was planning g to visit Subic, but only public bus is avaiable. Or private car.

Of course. Same goes for Manila. Bus from Dau or Gemini bus from SM Clark.Why the fuck anyone wanted to travel with these Aussie pirates was beyond me. They charged 500 peso for a ride in a Toyota mini bus with a bunch of geriatric mongers who needed 200 MG of Viagra just to pee standing up. You can get a comfortable, air conditioned, WiFi equipped public bus from Pasay to AC for 180 peso. A nice looking chick would even come on board and sell you local snacks. Meat heads. I'm glad those pricks have gone out of business.

Thampi62
10-08-22, 07:07
Arrived here on Monday, for the first time in nearly 3 years. For information, you need to have vaccination proof and One Health Pass. This is easy to do online and costs $75. Without this you will not be allowed on your flight.

Monday night I found a nice FL along Felds near 711 store, good girl and good service too, everything I wanted. FL prices seem to range from 1500 to 2500ST up to 4 - 5 k LT. Went out again later, there are many girls hustling, and quite a few who aren't girls, some of these are quite young and attractive. Or maybe I'm just getting old. Not so many mongers, which means more intense hustling from the girls and ungirls. Tuesday I went to Kokomos for lunch and as I got close spotted a little cutie I quite liked but she was ignoring me. There was a guy trying to sell me Ciallis, and I got him to fix me up with cutie, so after lunch with her, took her back. She didn't have long but did a good job for me, BJ and sex. Turns out she was on her way to work in Shooters bar. Later I decided to try the Jelipsum massage with HJ, mentioned on here. It's really good and recommended. I took a trike to Korea Town Jolibee and kept walking along Don Juico to the yellow building on the left called Kakao, its about 200 metres past the Jolibee. Once you know it, you could take the trike there. In the evening I had a visit from an old flame from previohs visits, who also did a nice number on me, but she couldn't stay over as she had to work early in the morning. I'm staying as usual in Envy Hotel it is great for me, small convenient and very private, bit noisy at night in case you want to sleep before 3 or 4 am though. More later.Informative report buddy. Can you pin point the Envy Hotel? Could not get it in google. Envy sports bar is one of my favourite places for breakfast. Do they have accommodation?

Regards.

GoodEnough
10-08-22, 07:42
Divorce is illegal in the Philippines except for rare exceptions but happens all the time. In the Phils you can have someone whacked for $500 by two guys on a motorcycle. But I can not get a registered marriage to disappear for $100? You think there is some countrywide database for this? Most are locally filed whether it be paper or electronic.

FYI Back in the day (just 10 years ago) I did not know a single bar girl with a fake ID. I knew several. But that could not be possible because that too has a centralized database. Phils does not even have a Social Security type system with unique numbers to identify their citizens.I love it when guys with little to no knowledge post stuff like this. Yes, I think—in fact I know—that there's a national database maintained by the Bureau of National Statistics, and if you think that for $100 you could get someone to tinker with the system, I have a bridge for sale in case you might be interested. "Most," are not kept locally, but in the national, electronic database, which, if you had ever actually explored the issue, you might have learned. So the answer is "no," you could not get a registered marriage "dissappeared. " Perhaps someone with real clout and connections could, but you would never meet anyone with that kind of clout.

On another, more serious note, foreign spouses of Filipinas do have property rights not afforded to other foreigners. True, they can not own land, but their names can appear on deeds, and they do have the right, in the even of the death of a spouse, to sell jointly-held property and retain the proceeds. This is a fact that is carefully explained by Department of Immigration attorneys to the foreigner as part of the 13 A acquisition process. Again, there are horror stories of (largely ignorant) foreign men buying property in the names of girlfriends and then being thrown off of the property. There's a huge difference however, between those guys and those who are married to Filipinas.

GE.

Neidermeyer
10-08-22, 07:54
Gentlemen,

Below are a few thoughts on my recent visit to Angeles City. I only had two nights there and it was my first visit in about ten years so it was basically all new again. These are my thoughts.

The City - Angeles itself is still as grungy as I remember, with incessant trike noise, horns and fumes permeating the senses. It's tolerable for a couple of days but after that I think most people would need a break.

There seems to have been very little economic development over past 10 years. In fact, the city almost seems to have regressed. I'm sure much of this is due to COVID, but there's no escaping the fact that the town is still the pits. Sorry to sound harsh, but it's true.

The Girls - However, it's against this ragged backdrop that the girls really shine. I saw some real hotties walking around. If you saw these girls in New York or Tokyo they'd still turn heads, but somehow seeing them in the midst of the Angeles City grunge amplifies their sexiness. They're not everywhere, but there's enough to make you remember why you came. Mysteriously, these girls seem to disappear before making it into the walking street bars, as the quality of the girls in the bars themselves was disappointing.

After interacting with a few of the bar girls I was also reminded of a certain conservatism that the Filipinas have. While I did experience some high mileage interactions from a few of the older bar girls (see details below), the younger ones always seemed very reserved, less fun, and somewhat disconnected. It's hard to fully describe, but even in the bedroom these girls have a certain sexual conservatism that I haven't experienced in other parts of Asia. I'm curious if others have found this as well.

On a related note, a narrative I've often heard is that the girls in Angeles, and the Philippines in general, readily offer BBFS and may even actively avoid using condoms. However, I haven't found this to be true. Don't get me wrong, I've secured BBFS many times in the Philippines and did so again this trip (only my girl in Manila ultimately insisted on a condom), but all of the girls in Angeles asked for one initially. In other locations like Thailand for instance, I've found girls barely even mention condoms these days. Therefore, the earlier narrative that Angeles is the best destination for BBFS no longer seems true to me. Let me know what you all think.

Walking Street - I was there on a Thursday and Friday night and it was reasonably active both nights. Most of the bars were open but I saw a lot of "help wanted" signs and many of the bars were pretty empty. Some didn't have any customers at all. Overall, it doesn't seem there are enough customers to fully support the number of bars currently open. I only spent time in 123 Club, Shooters, Monsoon, and Geckos. Barfines were around 4 K and girls were asking 3 K outside of the bar.

Geckos - When I arrived, there weren't any seats available (the bar is pretty small), but there was a group of waitresses sitting at a high-top table and they offered me one of their seats. I ended up chatting with them and inevitably buying one of them drink, then a second one, and finally a third. It was against my better judgment but it turned out to be well worth it. At one point I think I was getting a handjob by all three of these girls at the same time. This of course drew the attention of other girls who wanted in on the action (read drinks), and while passing by they would reach a hand in to give me a little jerk as well. It was good fun. I'm sure the other guys in the bar thought I was some sort of weekend millionaire. Perhaps I was. But for 30 minutes of handjobs, shoulder massages, and feeling-up tits and ass, it was money well spent (I think lady drinks were 300 PHP each). This bar was the most fun of those I visited on walking street.

Monsoon Bar - This bar has a standard setup with a center stage and seating on the perimeter. There weren't any girls on stage but many were sitting around the bar and also standing outside. I received some nice dances from a cute older bar girl who didn't waste any time getting her hands down my pants which is always appreciated. I didn't spend much time there as it was my first night and I wanted to explore other bars, but it was a good spot. I intended to return but never made it back. I'd put this one on your list to visit.

123 Club - This bar has a unique setup that I haven't seen before. The girls don't dance; they just stand on a long catwalk and wait for customers to invite them to sit down for a drink. All of the girls wear street clothes so you can't really see their bodies but this was also sort of hot. It's a Korean bar so this may be a standard approach, I'm not sure. They had a good selection of girls and they were all reasonably cute. It was probably one of the better bars in term of quality of girls. I barfined one girl here my first night and she was very nice (barring ID issue below).

Hotel - I stayed at the Prime Asia hotel. The location and quality were okay, but they required both an ID and vaccination card for girls to join in the room. After I barfined my first girl from 123 Club we went back to the hotel and I learned that she didn't have her ID or vaccination card! I'm not sure how many hotels are requiring vaccination cards these days but I would consider another place as Prime Asia was very strict about this. On the other hand, how can a bargirl not carry her ID, especially knowing she'll likey be going back to a hotel with her customer? Maybe most Angeles hotels don't ask for ID, I don't know, but to me this is common sense and speaks to what I mentioned above about the girls in Angeles. Somehow they're on a different wavelength. As a comparison, I can't imagine a bar girl in Thailand coming back to the hotel without her ID. When it's time to work, they know what's up. Anyway, as a word to the wise, I would recommend confirming the ID requirements with your hotel and be sure your girl has the right docs before barfining her.

Summary - The Angeles bar scene feels like it's at an inflection point. The bars are open but the customers and quality of girls hasn't fully returned yet. If they don't, it seems the number of bars will have to contract to match demand. On the other hand, if the bars are only operating for money laundering purposes as some have alluded to, then I suspect things will stay the same for a while. There will be an excess of sparsely populated bars without much growth in complementary businesses like hotels, restaurants, and stores that contribute to the type of fun, energetic environment that will draw-in visitors.

Overall, I was happy to visit Angeles and am sure I'll return again at some point, but for now I'm going to hold off to see how the situation evolves. I look forward to reading other reviews and monitoring things going forward. In the meantime, enjoy those Filipinas. There are some hotties out there to be found!

Expat American
10-08-22, 11:35
Gentlemen,



After interacting with a few of the bar girls I was also reminded of a certain conservatism that the Filipinas have. While I did experience some high mileage interactions from a few of the older bar girls (see details below), the younger ones always seemed very reserved, less fun, and somewhat disconnected. It's hard to fully describe, but even in the bedroom these girls have a certain sexual conservatism that I haven't experienced in other parts of Asia. I'm curious if others have found this as well.

On a related note, a narrative I've often heard is that the girls in Angeles, and the Philippines in general, readily offer BBFS and may even actively avoid using condoms. However, I haven't found this to be true. Don't get me wrong, I've secured BBFS many times in the Philippines and did so again this trip (only my girl in Manila ultimately insisted on a condom), but all of the girls in Angeles asked for one initially. In other locations like Thailand for instance, I've found girls barely even mention condoms these days. Therefore, the earlier narrative that Angeles is the best destination for BBFS no longer seems true to me. Let me know what you all think.

I used to love AC more for the fun in the bars than the sex. Those days are gone. You are correct, many girls, especially younger ones just sit there next to you like little miss prim and proper and expect you to buy them overpriced drinks. I always grab some boobs and ass even if it makes them squirm because cmon, I'm not paying to discuss the global financial crisis. Some bars still have it right. Lollipop and Geckos are both good for higher mileage drinks.

As for BBFS, yes an occasional girl or two may bring up the see word but none have ever insisted. At the most its "please don't come inside" request which I usually honor by spraying her face instead. There were a pair of girls I met in a bar that promised an off hour 3 some and in the negotiation started with a ridiculous price of 4 K each, settled for 2. 5 K each but then brought up using condoms. At this point I dropped the discussion because she was acting all princess-like but I am sure she would have backed off had I insisted. They kept messaging me but I ended up blocking them. Sometimes when you take two girls they like to pretend to each other that they always use condoms but of course they don't. I think AC is still by far the most reliable place for default BBFS.

NapaSlapper
10-08-22, 13:12
I love it when guys with little to no knowledge post stuff like this. Yes, I thinkin fact I knowthat there's a national database maintained by the Bureau of National Statistics, and if you think that for $100 you could get someone to tinker with the system, I have a bridge for sale in case you might be interested. "Most," are not kept locally, but in the national, electronic database, which, if you had ever actually explored the issue, you might have learned. So the answer is "no," you could not get a registered marriage "dissappeared. " Perhaps someone with real clout and connections could, but you would never meet anyone with that kind of clout.

On another, more serious note, foreign spouses of Filipinas do have property rights not afforded to other foreigners. True, they can not own land, but their names can appear on deeds, and they do have the right, in the even of the death of a spouse, to sell jointly-held property and retain the proceeds. This is a fact that is carefully explained by Department of Immigration attorneys to the foreigner as part of the 13 A acquisition process. Again, there are horror stories of (largely ignorant) foreign men buying property in the names of girlfriends and then being thrown off of the property. There's a huge difference however, between those guys and those who are married to Filipinas.

GE.While I agree with you that it is not easily possible to get a legally marriage to disappear or is it easy to get a divorce in the pi.

However thinking that foreigners have any rignts or are protected by law because they are married to a pinay is just naive IMHO.

As has happened to many if a pinay wife wants her husband off of her land and out of her house then a quick word in the ear of her Brothers or her policeman cousin and the foreigner will be had a word with at first, don't listen then next might be a beating or a gun to the face, continue to make problems then the problem can quite easily and cheaply dissappear permanently.

Know of multiple foreigners that were married to the my one is different wife only to have to return to their home countries with their tail between their legs and broke.

Personal friend has just been told by his wife that she wants him out of her house and to not return, my friend told the wife that he would go to the police or courts for help, her answer go right ahead, ill tell the police and courts you sexualy abused my young daughters, guess what, he left with nothing.

Not saying all pinays are bad, but its fair to say that foreigners have very little rights should the shit hit the fan.

GoodEnough
10-08-22, 16:56
While I agree with you that it is not easily possible to get a legally marriage to disappear or is it easy to get a divorce in the pi.

However thinking that foreigners have any rignts or are protected by law because they are married to a pinay is just naive IMHO.

As has happened to many if a pinay wife wants her husband off of her land and out of her house then a quick word in the ear of her Brothers or her policeman cousin and the foreigner will be had a word with at first, don't listen then next might be a beating or a gun to the face, continue to make problems then the problem can quite easily and cheaply dissappear permanently.

Know of multiple foreigners that were married to the my one is different wife only to have to return to their home countries with their tail between their legs and broke.

Personal friend has just been told by his wife that she wants him out of her house and to not return, my friend told the wife that he would go to the police or courts for help, her answer go right ahead, ill tell the police and courts you sexualy abused my young daughters, guess what, he left with nothing.

Not saying all pinays are bad, but it’s fair to say that foreigners have very little rights should the shit hit the fan.And I'm not saying that this never happens. On the other hand, all of my expat friends here are married, and have been so for quite a while and none have experienced any of the problems you describe. As always, I suppose, the satisfaction derived from a marital relationship depends on the character of the two people involved. I don't know anyone within my circle—which is admittedly not a random sample—to whom the sorts of things you describe would happen. I'm also aware that there are lots of variables, but I suspect the background of the women who would commit such actions isn't sterling. Anything else I have to say would be too personally revealing and so I'll refrain from further comments, but I think the old adage "marry in haste and repent at leisure" might apply in some of these cases.

GE.

Mr Enternational
10-08-22, 18:35
At one point I think I was getting a handjob by all three of these girls at the same time. This of course drew the attention of other girls who wanted in on the action (read drinks), and while passing by they would reach a hand in to give me a little jerk as well. I would hate to be the next customer coming in to order something after everyone in the bar has been playing with your dick. I know them nasty hoes didn't wash their hands after.

LoveItHere69
10-08-22, 19:36
Philippine Identification System Act.

A national identification system for the Philippines was proposed as early as the 1990's. However previous efforts to legislate the system has failed due to concerns in privacy and lack of support from the Congress.

In mid-2016, Quezon City Representative Feliciano Belmonte Jr. And Senator Antonio Trillanes filed House of Representative Bill No. 12 and Senate Bill No. 95 for an identification system for Filipino citizens residing in the Philippines and abroad. Belmonte claims at the time of filing that the Philippines is one of only nine countries in the world without a national id system.

The framework for a Philippine national identity card system was established on August 6, 2018, when President Rodrigo Duterte signed into law the Philippine Identification System Act (R. A. 11055). Section 9 of the Act requires every Philippine citizen and resident alien to personally register with the Philippine ID system.

This is an example of how far behind they are in knowing their own people. Tens of thousands of babies each year are born at home and not in hospitals. Until the parents go to a government agency to get an ID for their kid or enroll the kid in school they cease to exist in many instances and will not show up at your Philippine Statistical Authority. Phil citizens by law do not even have to register for Philsys (though makes life very difficult). As of Sept 22,2022 15 million IDs have been issued. So only 90 million left to go. But the Philippine Statistical Authority's marriage database is 100% up to date. Sorry but many barangay level governments are not very efficient or trustworthy to actually do their job. Girls can get legally married but do not get the marriage filed and documented and just burn up the paperwork, or get married by a non-priest friend and sign fake marriage paperwork. So many ways to make this happen.

There is a guy here in USA who married a Filipina, brought her here, and had kids with her. He bought land in the Philippines to farm and planning his retirement. She left him for another Filipino here in the USA and took the kids. But he is wise enough to know that that land is now hers. Why? Simply because she has an uncle who is a judge in that province who knows other judges who know police officers who know bad people who do bad stuff.

Just Not Good Enough.

Weldermike
10-08-22, 20:05
Arrived here on Monday, for the first time in nearly 3 years. For information, you need to have vaccination proof and One Health Pass. This is easy to do online and costs $75. Without this you will not be allowed on your flight.

Monday night I found a nice FL along Felds near 711 store, good girl and good service too, everything I wanted. FL prices seem to range from 1500 to 2500ST up to 4 - 5 k LT. Went out again later, there are many girls hustling, and quite a few who aren't girls, some of these are quite young and attractive. Or maybe I'm just getting old. Not so many mongers, which means more intense hustling from the girls and ungirls. Tuesday I went to Kokomos for lunch and as I got close spotted a little cutie I quite liked but she was ignoring me. There was a guy trying to sell me Ciallis, and I got him to fix me up with cutie, so after lunch with her, took her back. She didn't have long but did a good job for me, BJ and sex. Turns out she was on her way to work in Shooters bar. Later I decided to try the Jelipsum massage with HJ, mentioned on here. It's really good and recommended. I took a trike to Korea Town Jolibee and kept walking along Don Juico to the yellow building on the left called Kakao, its about 200 metres past the Jolibee. Once you know it, you could take the trike there. In the evening I had a visit from an old flame from previohs visits, who also did a nice number on me, but she couldn't stay over as she had to work early in the morning. I'm staying as usual in Envy Hotel it is great for me, small convenient and very private, bit noisy at night in case you want to sleep before 3 or 4 am though. More later.Sorry to say you got ripped off, as it's free.

https://www.onehealthpass.com.ph/

NeilGeorge
10-10-22, 02:38
I think the old adage "marry in haste and repent at leisure" might apply in some of these cases..I prefer "marry in the evening and divorce in the morning."

Threadbare
10-11-22, 02:48
Sorry to say you got ripped off, as it's free.

https://www.onehealthpass.com.ph/Hmmm my bad. OK thanks for correcting that one, other travellers take note. At least it worked and arrived very quickly on a Sunday.

CarolinaGuy
10-11-22, 07:23
Howdy fellas. I wanted to post some info that may help others on my trip so far. I've been here a couple days short of a month and plan to stay another month. Long story regarding my situation to be able to stay this long and return home. I'm not in Angeles the whole time as I explore the country but it has been my home base. I hope my report will help other new comers, encourage new comers and old timers to come back, and pay homage to all the old timers who have posted info here that I read extensively before I arrived which has helped me a great deal. One last thing is I know at times I've paid too much or made a bad calls at times heck I might be a bad person but I'm just posting to hopefully help others not debate about what I should of done, please correct me if I'm wrong about something but I'm mostly trying to post about my boots on the ground experience here. Thanks fellas, be well!

- Getting here from JFK to to Manila with a stop in Seoul I booked 3 months ago round trip for about 1000 usd, JFK was lame but the flight was smooth, Great food on the flight I really recommend Korean Airlines (keep in mind if you didn't know like me when transferring on intl flight you go through security at change airport again and have to throw away liquids again LOL).

-When I got to Manila getting in took like 2 min to get through immigration, just showed vaccine card, passport, hotel reservation (in my case showed email I had with Central Park confirming I was booking but paying cash in person for a special promo on price they had and hotel was picking me up which sufficed). They asked how long I was staying I said set for 14 days with flight but I may stay 30 days, they also asked why I was here I just said for vacation which the agent when I said this the second time she asked me and saw I was going to a hotel in Angeles gave me a bit of a look but let me through with no issues.

-Driver from Central Park was exactly in spot #2 as they emailed me he may be (spot 1 they wouldn't let people wait long in). Car ride was smooth pleasant with the perfect amount of talking, I think it cost like 3 or 4 k pisos which I think for when you just get there is totally worth it, stress free easy ride on the skyway and NLEX to Angeles.

-I could go on forever about how much I love central park but in short it is a great place to stay right by the action but not loud, very classy but not over the top, amazing room selection (I don't suggest the 10th floor though as the rooftop bistro is above and noise from there I could hear in my room). I've eaten at the rooftop Bistro like 20 times, great food service, views, and the pool is very relaxing. Hotel also has laundry service.

-Central Park gave me no issues at all bringing back girls, no questions or hassle, the only thing they did actually made me laugh in a good way when I let one girl leave without me going downstairs with her they didn't let her leave until the hotel called my room to make sure it was ok for her to leave, really good to know if a girl tried to steal something and sneak out that is a fail safe, speaking of safe they have a safe in the room here that gave me a lot of peace of mind when falling asleep with a girl in the room.

- Central Park is about 65 bucks a night depending what room you get, highly worth it especially if your just on vacation timeline. They clean rooms everyday, staff is super friendly and knowing you have good food on the roof is nice when some of the other food options here don't seem so appealing. 2 min or less walk to walking st main area, 10 min walk to SM Clark, Trike guys always a step away if needed, jeepney terminals 10 min or less away. Astro Park for basketball around 5 am or 4 pm (best times when it's not hot) 8 min away. They also have great wifi.

I said this would be short but now I'm realizing it's long already my badz LOL. Time to get to what we all want to know the ladies!!

On walking st most spots barfine is 4000 php for LT (long time), some bars on fields ave and further down Don Jucio ave 3000-3500. The ones on walking st really don't budge in my experience on the 4000 as they are in the prime spot but not sure if I pushed hard enough to see if they do as for the quality of what I was getting I though 4000 was good. Some bars like Lollipop you can tell have more attractive girls but I found in all the bars at least 3-4 girls who look really good and a couple of stunners, doesn't seem like much but usually only a couple customers in all of them.

I don't know about freelance prices as I didn't find any that interest me and I prefer the bar girls in my opinion they have a lot of incentive to do well and you get a good opportunity to check them out and see there energy levels and how fun they will be while in the bar and which ones might just be dead fish or more attitude than one would hope for when there paying for service.

The reason I think bar girls have more incentive to do well as even though you have already paid the bar customers are hard to come by so a girl providing poor service has to come back to that bar and if you have really chatted it up with the Mamasan letting her know you may be a repeat customer to there bar they are going to make sure you are treated well. All this may not tie in perfectly but I have had mostly good service from bar girls especially when I take the time to pick the ones that really seem into me. Don't get suckered into too many lady drinks, I'll buy the girl a drink if I talk to her but I usually make my decision just watching for a while and I'll buy the Mamasan a drink as I like the look of glancing at what you want while talking to the Mamasan to be a better look that you are serious about good service but it's not the only way to go. Also buying one drink for the lady or the Mamasan is plenty enough the waitress is always try to get you to do ("one more") no matter how many drinks you by for yourself or others. Also it helps to pick the drink you are buying for others as they will get something expensive if you don't speak up for what your willing to buy. No one wants to risk killing the mode but trust me fellas 90% of these places are struggling for customers to buy drinks and even more so to barfine you don't have to buy much extra to make a good impression.

I didn't really ask about ST except once when was just looking for just a BJ which I got quoted 2500 on that which I turned down but one of the gals at the bar phoned up a friend who did it for 2000 though it ended up turning into BBBFS for just 2000 as the head game was a bit weak, worked out good. She was an HR late coming to the hotel though which was annoying downside of having someone come to you possibly.

Again most bars don't have many customers but a few of them look pretty busy most nights but regardless there are Always, always be more girls than mongers everywhere which means your going to get swarmed early but you are playing with house money. It is true about the strong presence of Korean travelers and venues appealing primarily to them but I don't think it was anything too crazy and I enjoyed a lot of the Korean themed bars as they are newer and seem to have more energy. In my own observations and talks with girls and Mamasans the Korean gentleman come over with a lot of money and when they spend it they go all out but they they also don't overpay. With respect to Korean guys they known for just more straight to business, not as romantic or fun in some ways for the girls, the girls are certainly here for the money and are going to pick a Korean man over a Westerner if they had to pick which I can't blame them but the idea of relationship beyond Angeles is still associated with Westerners which can lead to a lot of passion rather real or not.

Along with vaccine and testing requirements keeping some Westerns away keep in mind though they didn't make up a good amount of tourist in the past there are almost no Chinese or Japanese tourist due to covid restrictions there either still in effect or just being lifted, you can tell Angeles use to have way more customers so this is a good time to come and enjoy the ratio.

BBBFS is almost guaranteed every time but be sure to be sure talk about it first before leaving the bar (just ask is no condom ok) almost always will say yes but if don't ask first you risk being asked before the action which may cost you another 1000 piso to do not condom. Out of 8 gals only like 1 gave a decent BJ, most just aren't good at it or struggle with the size (not to brag) the one who did well wasn't from Walking St area she was from far off the party area as I went for a long walk one day and found a massage spot, only 2000 for that one and in the parlor so I that would classify as ST.

All my LT sessions did last that night into the morning, longest 2 pm to 8 am. A tip 500-1000 is good, you can even tip less but I think 500-1000 on a long time is fair considering most girls only make 300 pisos a day dancing for 8-12 hrs shifts but to each his own. Got the best girl I barfined info for sessions off the book (which they can be fired for) I pay her 3000 and still get LT.

Most massages at massage parlors are 300-400 pisos and can come with a good hand job at the main stream places for another 1000 pisos or so.

Jeepney that goes down Field / Don Jucio aves to near walking st cost only 11 pisos (it is the one that says Friendship terminal, main gate, clark and is painted yellow.

Trikes are about 100-200 pisos depending where you can, locals can negotiate lower than that but 200 as a foreigner will pretty much get you anywhere in the city, try and tip 20 pisos or so if you can makes a big difference for these guys. I've never felt the need to take a taxi in this city as trikes are everywhere and way cheaper.

Anyone who holds the door for you at 7-11 is expected a couple coins when you come back out.

Red Planet is a great spot is you just want a cheap but clean room, though the wifi is awful.

Cash is king here, exchange plenty of it for what you think you will need as a lot of places don't take cards, also they will trying to do even change as often as possible expect to be asked often if you have a few pisos to make your change even if you don't no worries but it's a common thing. The mall is the best place that takes card if your trying to split how you spend your money.

One thing not surprising but has worn on me especially some days I'm not in the mood for it is being hassled every single block for something, rather it's the male enhancement guys (who don't seem to understand the words I don't use that stuff so I would never buy it), cigs, watches, wallets, calendars, fruits, massages, trike rides (the trike guys accept a no better than others to there credit) or straight up cash which makes sense as money and good jobs are hard to come by here I totally expect it but it wears on ya some days. Kids will follow you for a block or two with there hand out for cash which I try to give them something but somedays it's a bit much but it comes with being in any poor country. The lady boys will also hassle you a bit in a friendly way they make up most of the FL scene from what I can see. Be ready to tell people no at least 20 times a day.

Safety has not been an issue at all, 99% of establishments have security, there are people everywhere, the people here are kind. The whole country if you look at it especially an American prospective looks like a robbery about to happen around every other corner but I assure you are way safer than back in the states or most places on earth. Crime is not tolerated here, petty theft is possible and if your stumbling drunk at 3 am down a dark alley anything is possible but if your on walking st and got your pockets secure you have nothing to worry about.

I'll go in more details on the clubs later as some spots are very special like Genius has a nice dance show, Aqua Beach is a site to see, Lollipop has a great light show at night but for this post I wanted to through something out there. I hope brothers especially in America get here soon to get out of the Matrix, here you can have stunner in your bed within an hour of getting here for 70 bucks for one of the best nights of your life. If your into dating Angeles may not be the best place to start but overall in PH if you just kindly communicate and have some game you can find a wife who will treat you well very quickly. Thanks to all who have posted for your information has made for a very smooth trip for me.

Muttley81
10-11-22, 14:51
Is the pool party back on at Score Birds? Website is a little confusing as it says they are on every Saturday and every third Sunday. I think it's probably the latter, hoping it's a Saturday though.

WestCoast1
10-11-22, 17:26
Is the pool party back on at Score Birds? Website is a little confusing as it says they are on every Saturday and every third Sunday. I think it's probably the latter, hoping it's a Saturday though.Recent pic attached from the SB bar. Every third Sunday, 2-6 pm.

Muttley81
10-11-22, 17:50
Recent pic attached from the SB bar. Every third Sunday, 2-6 pm.Thanks, it's same poster on the website. Going up there for a weekend soon, seemed like a good way to 'waste' a Saturday afternoon. Don't think I'll bother on a Sunday and get back to Manila post check out.

Pute Nut
10-11-22, 18:01
Trikes are about 100-200 pisos depending where you can, locals can negotiate lower than that but 200 as a foreigner will pretty much get you anywhere in the city, try and tip 20 pisos or so if you can makes a big difference for these guys. I've never felt the need to take a taxi in this city as trikes are everywhere and way cheaper.

Anyone who holds the door for you at 7-11 is expected a couple coins when you come back out.

Great advice. Unlike in other parts of the Philippines, the AC trike drivers provide extra courteous service and are held in very high regard. P200 is very cheap for a comfortable trike ride within Balibago and you did the right thing to tip the poor guys on top of those cheap rides!

Regarding the 7-11 door technicians I think you lowballed it a bit, usually I give them at least a crisp P 20 bill, or a 50.

Mr Enternational
10-11-22, 18:57
Trikes are about 100-200 pisos depending where you can, locals can negotiate lower than that but 200 as a foreigner will pretty much get you anywhere in the city, try and tip 20 pisos or so if you can makes a big difference for these guys. I've never felt the need to take a taxi in this city as trikes are everywhere and way cheaper.After they ripped you off you gave them a tip? How many Filipinos do you think are giving tips to trike drivers? Leave your back home way of thinking back home. In Dumaguette a trike ride clear across the city is 10 pesos. Even in Bangkok an air conditioned taxi is cheaper than those ripoff tuk tuks where you will sweat your ass off and have your lungs damaged by pollution.

Weldermike
10-11-22, 19:41
Great advice. Unlike in other parts of the Philippines, the AC trike drivers provide extra courteous service and are held in very high regard. P200 is very cheap for a comfortable trike ride within Balibago and you did the right thing to tip the poor guys on top of those cheap rides!

Regarding the 7-11 door technicians I think you lowballed it a bit, usually I give them at least a crisp P 20 bill, or a 50.As a reference I normally pay 100 p to the trike from walking street to candy bar.

Goferring
10-11-22, 20:16
Howdy fellas. I wanted to post some info that may help others on my trip so far......A great first report.

Definitely Rookie of the Year Award. 👍.

Goferring
10-11-22, 20:22
Recent pic attached from the SB bar. Every third Sunday, 2-6 pm.Do SB allow cameras during the pool parties?

Not being ant*ial but wannabee YouTube stars taping everyone uninvited drives me nuts. Let's face it, many guys do not want their presence at these events broadcast widely.


Edit: Wtf is anti social a banned word??

FuriousGeorge
10-12-22, 01:04
After reopening the Score Birds pool party a few months back, cameras are hard banned. Phllyinthephilippines made a video about it. Too bad, I always liked checking out the talent on youtube.


Do SB allow cameras during the pool parties?

Not being ant*ial but wannabee YouTube stars taping everyone uninvited drives me nuts. Let's face it, many guys do not want their presence at these events broadcast widely.


Edit: Wtf is anti social a banned word??

FuriousGeorge
10-12-22, 01:20
Good stuff. Totally agree on Central Park. That's my spot. Was it a totally separate payment for the ride from the airport or was somehow discounted from the room price? I usually stay in Makati for a couple of days but I think in December I'm just going to straight from the airport. Beeway Travel always does me right.

What was the BJ massage place? Vegas massage was the only 'sure thing' I found but I was always on the lookout.

Anyway jonesing to get back.


Howdy fellas. I wanted to post some info that may help others on my trip so far. .

Breadman
10-12-22, 02:08
Trikes are about 100-200 pisos depending where you can, locals can negotiate lower than that but 200 as a foreigner will pretty much get you anywhere in the city, try and tip 20 pisos or so if you can makes a big difference for these guys. I've never felt the need to take a taxi in this city as trikes are everywhere and way cheaper.Skip the negotiations and just book a trike using the grab app, I was seeing 77 peso's as a rate to take me from fields to the perimeter road bars. I was just checking the rates, never did try to book one since I was staying on fields. Now I did try to book a trike to the airport, the app allowed me to enter in the info and book the trike but the driver called and told me they were not allowed onto the airport property (taxi mafi). I then had to book a grab car and the driver showed up with the meter already running which was refunded back to me when I emailed in a complaint. If you have the time use Grab, might take a few minutes for the trike to show. If you have a girl in tow then just hop in the nearest trike and pay the extra or have her negotiate for you.

Sailor Jack
10-12-22, 02:22
One day Sailor Jack is in Dollhouse having a Red Horse and minding his own business. Like always.

Sailor Jack becomes aware that several of the girls on stage are trying to get his attention. It turns out that several of them are motioning towards Cmex, who apparently has the hots for Sailor Jack. I look at Cmex and see an average looking Filipina with a huge schoolgirl blushing smile on her face. Well, Sailor Jack is known to GirlDrink a less than stellar girl just to get the bar moving. So Sailor Jack invites Cmex over for one GirlDrink. She is blushing so much that she can hardly talk. Anyway, we have one drink and Sailor Jack thinks no more of it.

Until. The next day. Cmex is texting Sailor Jack nonstop wanting to come over. Sailor Jack did not even remember having given Cmex his number. She keeps this up for several days, and although Sailor Jack has no room on his dance card for average looking pookie – Sailor Jack agrees to a nooner.

As Sailor Jack is waiting for Cmex to show up, Sailor Jack devises a plan to put a stop to this unwanted attention and texting. Sailor Jack will step up his typical aggressive / abusive game on Cmex. Sailor Jack will see just how much this trollop can take.

Cmex arrives. Cmex is dressed in a cute black dress and she has the same blushing smile on her face. The elapsed time between the entry door closing and Sailor Jack pounding his hairy canary down her throat is three seconds. Sailor Jack has her on her knees, holding her head between his hands, face fucking her head against the door. Cmex is still fully clothed but gurgling and sucking and trying to get some air between gulping and sucking. After a good 15 minutes of this romantic skull fucking, Cmex struggles to get Sailor Jacks baloney pony out of her throat. Cmex gives Sailor Jack a 'WTF' look from her knees.

Here it starts to get rough. Sailor Jack quickly moves her to the bed, gets most of her clothes off, positions Cmex on her back with her head in the middle of the bed, pinning her hands over her head on the bed, and commences a true face fucking. Sailor Jack did eventually roll Cmex over and give her a good hard doggy style fucking. Which she loved.

Sailor Jack got his fill and laid on the bed next to Cmex. Cmex never actually said a word, but at this point she did take a good look around the room. It then occurred to Sailor Jack that Cmex had not seen the room because entire time she was there Sailor Jacks tasteys were slapping against her chin.

So Cmex never actually said a word. Sure, most of the time that was because Sailor Jacks tiller was tickling her tonsils. After Cmex left Sailor Jack began to wonder if somehow he might get in trouble for the brutal face fucking. In any case, Sailor Jack thought that this session should end Cmex's constant texting.

Well, no. Sailor Jack did not get in any trouble. Turns out Cmex LOVED the rough treatment – in fact she was thrilled by it. Apparently, it was just what she wanted. Sailor Jack would see her maybe 20 times, trying to up the abuse each time, and Cmex hung right in there. Cmex, would often show up late (did you ever hear of a punctual prostitute?) for our sessions. I eventually realized that Cmex was being late on purpose just to piss me off and to motivate Sailor Jack even more.

I eventually cut Cmex off because I was worried about where all that rough stuff might lead. Thanks to Sailor Jack's diligent training. Cmex became a first rate deep throater and sub girl. You are welcome, fellow mongers.

Sailor Jack
10-12-22, 02:27
One more Cmex pic.

CarolinaGuy
10-12-22, 02:29
Thank you! Yes totally separate payment. Good choice either way I actually came back to Makati for a few days after a week here and the hotel drove me there for same price. I've since found cheaper ways getting to Manila but it smooth relaxing ride both ways I've heard good things about Beeway Travel.

The place was Fantasy Massage on Don Jucio for the HJ. I think she offered a blow job but couldn't quite get what she was saying when she asked, usually I don't care for HJs but it was the best one I've ever had. I may check out Vegas massage.


Good stuff. Totally agree on Central Park. That's my spot. Was it a totally separate payment for the ride from the airport or was somehow discounted from the room price? I usually stay in Makati for a couple of days but I think in December I'm just going to straight from the airport. Beeway Travel always does me right.

What was the BJ massage place? Vegas massage was the only 'sure thing' I found but I was always on the lookout.

Anyway jonesing to get back.

CarolinaGuy
10-12-22, 02:35
Thank you! I think I had a thousand yard season, started fast, hit the rookie wall, had a few fumbles but I think I'm starting to come on late LOL I'm just hoping I don't play for the Detroit Lions.


A great first report.

Definitely Rookie of the Year Award. 👍.

CarolinaGuy
10-12-22, 02:40
Skip the negotiations and just book a trike using the grab app, I was seeing 77 peso's as a rate to take me from fields to the perimeter road bars. I was just checking the rates, never did try to book one since I was staying on fields. Now I did try to book a trike to the airport, the app allowed me to enter in the info and book the trike but the driver called and told me they were not allowed onto the airport property (taxi mafi). I then had to book a grab car and the driver showed up with the meter already running which was refunded back to me when I emailed in a complaint. If you have the time use Grab, might take a few minutes for the trike to show. If you have a girl in tow then just hop in the nearest trike and pay the extra or have her negotiate for you.Good info, I didn't think about using grab for trikes I may do that in the future. Your right about the airport they don't let trikes in there at all and the taxis there try and overcharge hard grab is a must for there.

CarolinaGuy
10-12-22, 02:46
Great advice. Unlike in other parts of the Philippines, the AC trike drivers provide extra courteous service and are held in very high regard. P200 is very cheap for a comfortable trike ride within Balibago and you did the right thing to tip the poor guys on top of those cheap rides!

Regarding the 7-11 door technicians I think you lowballed it a bit, usually I give them at least a crisp P 20 bill, or a 50.I agree they have always done me right and think it's worth the cost, thank you!

Perhaps I kinda go by the thinking I didn't ask them to hold the door but a 20 or 50 wouldn't hurt me I must admit. I may do that in the future.

CarolinaGuy
10-12-22, 02:55
Sorry I see what ya meant now regarding asking about the BJ not HJ massage spot the girl who gave me one doesn't work there anymore I don't know if the other staff members do BJ's (I know she doesn't work there anymore because I gave her my FB and she won't stop hitting me up, she was a good looking lady but late 30's so she can't work in the clubs so what I gave her was a very rare thing which is why she won't leave me alone LOL). I forgot the actual name of the place I just know it was about a KM down from Jollibee on the McDonalds side going away from walking st.


Thank you! Yes totally separate payment. Good choice either way I actually came back to Makati for a few days after a week here and the hotel drove me there for same price. I've since found cheaper ways getting to Manila but it smooth relaxing ride both ways I've heard good things about Beeway Travel.

The place was Fantasy Massage on Don Jucio for the HJ. I think she offered a blow job but couldn't quite get what she was saying when she asked, usually I don't care for HJs but it was the best one I've ever had. I may check out Vegas massage.

Python75
10-12-22, 02:55
Excellent Sailor Jack. Respect to you young man.


One day Sailor Jack is in Dollhouse having a Red Horse and minding his own business. Like always.

You are welcome, fellow mongers.

AsianPursuits
10-12-22, 03:15
One day Sailor Jack is in Dollhouse having a Red Horse and minding his own business. Like always.Nomination for a reports of distinction.

NapaSlapper
10-12-22, 03:38
Few thought on the last 2 weekends barhops.

The town is very quiet for western tourists, most westerners I saw were faces I have seen over the years so mostly expats.

There are however lots of Asians around and many of these are Asians, they probably outnumber westerners 20/30 to 1.

I had been reading rave reviews on how geckos bar and lollipop bar had stunners that were willing to stay long time for 4,000 pesos, it had been some time to visit these two bars due to being disappointed in the past but I thought to start off here, sorry to say I will not be returning any time soon, the supposed stunners turned out to be older, fatter plain janes, yes buy a lady drink and the girls seemed playful with some guys grabbing at the girls which seemed accepted but in truth I did not see a girl worth buying a drink for let alone want to grab her or barfine, good if one wants interaction, terrible if one is at least the bit fussy.

The bars with the best girls are definitely the few bigger Korean owned bars on walking st, although girl numbers were well down on previous years there were at least a handful of girls in each bar that were younger, slim and fairly attractive, obviously if one is not Asian then the girls give very little attention but the shows were good, the beer cold and some ok looking girls.

I read of recent reports here that one should tip everyone they come in contact with, tip the trike driver, tip the street kids, tip the Viagra sellers, tip the guy that opens the door etc, I say, I only tip the girl that is sucking and fucking me and then only if she was good at both.

In conclusion, the night out were ok, nice to catch up with friends and pass a few hours, if one is Asian then possible to get laid by some girls, westerners to get laid have to accept the girls the Asians don't want, proof of westerners fucking stunners in Angeles is not what I have seen, most westerners I saw were sitting with older fatter plain janes in the bars or had older fatter plain janes on their arm heading home.

Pute Nut
10-12-22, 05:06
As a reference I normally pay 100 p to the trike from walking street to candy bar.I have paid P50 from Dau to Candy Bar. That was some years ago though, perhaps double that may suffice now? I don't ride trikes today, either I walk short distances or grab a metered Blue Taxi, they're everywhere.

Never negotiate a trike ride in front of other trike drivers, always get one who is solo.

Mackapaka
10-12-22, 08:40
One day Sailor Jack is in Dollhouse having a Red Horse and minding his own business. Like always.

Sailor Jack becomes aware that several of the girls on stage are trying to get his attention. It turns out that several of them are motioning towards Cmex, who apparently has the hots for Sailor Jack. I s.Excellent.

Goferring
10-12-22, 09:34
Excellent Sailor Jack. Respect to you young man.+1. I've always said it's great to unwrap an unknown pina to find a pleasant suprise inside.

We'll done.

NapaSlapper
10-12-22, 15:53
+1. I've always said it's great to unwrap an unknown pina to find a pleasant suprise inside.

We'll done.Pleasant suprise some times, on other occasions that unwrapping reveals multiple stretch marks or a smelly pussy, smelly ass or on occasions a cock bigger than the punters.

As with all pinays, unwrapping comes in all known guise.

Goferring
10-12-22, 18:12
Pleasant suprise some times, on other occasions that unwrapping reveals multiple stretch marks or a smelly pussy, smelly ass or on occasions a cock bigger than the punters.Never had the latter but I'll plead guilty to all the others. 🙂.

Having said that, the good out number the bad and are definitely the ones that get remembered.

Froggie58
10-12-22, 18:31
One more Cmex pic.I'd hit that in a second.

WestCoast1
10-12-22, 21:58
Pleasant suprise some times, on other occasions that unwrapping reveals multiple stretch marks or a smelly pussy, smelly ass or on occasions a cock bigger than the punters.

As with all pinays, unwrapping comes in all known guise.Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Welcome to Phils! Like the Navy: Its an adventure, not just a job.

Psriches
10-13-22, 01:34
These private buses are not running at the moment. I'm in AC now and was planning to visit Subic, but only public bus is available. Or private car.

Of course. Same goes for Manila. Bus from Dau or Gemini bus from SM Clark.Did you ever make it to Subic? How did you get there?

DzikaBomba
10-14-22, 07:25
When flying PAL you will get 10% Discount on Genesis Bus Rides like e. G. MNL. AC when showing them your PAL Boarding Card.

https://www.philippineairlines.com/newsevent-listingpage/travel-advisory/pal-partners-with-genesis-and-clark-airport-for-easy-bus-trips-to-and-from-clark

This is good News for Cheap Charlies!

It would be nice when someone tries out this and reports, if its working.

Sailor Jack
10-16-22, 05:11
Sailor Jack is sitting in a bar near Kokomo's drinking a San Miguel Pilsen and minding his own business like always. Sailor Jack regular N2 works at this bar and N2 comes right up to SJ. N2 says they have a new girl that Sailor Jack must meet. I would later learn that N2 had a crush on D36. (There will be more on N2 in a future post).

N2 had never recommended a girl to Sailor Jack before. D36 was brand new in the Fields Avenue bar. D36 literally just arrived from the province. D36 was 18 and she had zero bar girl attitude. D36 was a delightful high school girl and she was sweet and eager to please. D36's body was buxum and a bit of a hard body, a tight little province pookie, and a hard little Filipina ass. Buxum, non-flabby, hard body Filipinas are truly rare.

Oh – and her mangoes – they were just the greatest boner producing love pillows ever. When sleeping Sailor Jack moved D36 up in the bed and placed his head between her generous jugs. In the morning D36 had to pry Sailor Jacks lips off those lovely lady lumps.

In D36's first 2 weeks in the bar some foreigner took D36 out of the bar and married her. Good for her. D36 was no bar girl to begin with. I stayed in touch with D36 for a while. She is married and off in _ and making babies.

Ah, but those delicious mangoes!

AsianPursuits
10-16-22, 12:18
When flying PAL you will get 10% Discount on Genesis Bus Rides like e. G. MNL. AC when showing them your PAL Boarding Card.

https://www.philippineairlines.com/newsevent-listingpage/travel-advisory/pal-partners-with-genesis-and-clark-airport-for-easy-bus-trips-to-and-from-clark

This is good News for Cheap Charlies!

It would be nice when someone tries out this and reports, if its working.I thought Genesis leaving from T3 may not be so attractive for PR arrivals mostly in T2 or has everything been upended since covid?

Sailor Jack
10-17-22, 01:03
Sailor Jack attended ScoreBirds Pool Party yesterday. This event is held the third Sunday of each month with DollHouse. Entry fee is 500 p which includes an all you can eat buffet but not drinks. Beer was 100 p. A mango shake was 150 p. Hours are 2 pm-6 pm. The buffet food was average but plentiful and with a wide selection so you should be able to find something that you like.

There was a bikini beauty pageant with 17 contestants. The girls were good to excellent quality. I think that the girls were probably the best of the DollHouse line up. In between the bikini girls on stage there were entertaining and energetic dance troupes similar to or same as you would see at DollHouse. Your 500 p entry fee includes several strings of beads that are used as the 'votes' for your favorite bikini contestant.

Video and photography are strictly forbidden. I like this rule. There are too many little weasels around AC taking surreptitious video.

Overall, I would say that this is worth attending at least once.

JL photo attached. She will be covered in a future post.

Goferring
10-17-22, 07:01
Cmex became a first rate deep throater and sub girl. You are welcome, fellow mongers.


JL photo attached. She will be covered in a future post.Dude, I can come up with 1000 things to hate about AC but you are quickly balancing the scales. Keep enjoying yourself and bring on more great posts.

Cheers. G.

Goferring
10-17-22, 07:13
Sailor Jack attended ScoreBirds Pool Party yesterday. .....

There was a bikini beauty pageant with 17 contestants. The girls were good to excellent quality. I think that the girls were probably the best of the DollHouse line up. In between the bikini girls on stage there were entertaining and energetic dance troupes similar to or same as you would see at DollHouse. Your 500 p entry fee includes several strings of beads that are used as the 'votes' for your favorite bikini contestant...More info please from anyone who has been. Can Models be barfined directly off the stage? I'm assuming digits can be obtained for later? Or is it just buy more beads and the girls get a commission?

Sounds like a great afternoon esp if no cameras.

Thanks. G.

Pute Nut
10-17-22, 09:07
More info please from anyone who has been. Can Models be barfined directly off the stage? I'm assuming digits can be obtained for later? Or is it just buy more beads and the girls get a commission?

Sounds like a great afternoon esp if no cameras.

Thanks. G.Popped in for a while. Pretty OK lineup. P499 buffet was OK-ish, a shadow of its former glory, but can't complain with today's inflation, I guess. Girls seemed to keep mostly to themselves and were fed plenty SMLs, so they may be approachable later, didn't stay long though as I found the DJ / toastmaster pretty annoying. This event is currently held only on the third Sunday of every month, so plan accordingly.

WestCoast1
10-17-22, 09:18
Sailor Jack attended ScoreBirds Pool Party yesterday. SNIP Overall, I would say that this is worth attending at least once.

JL photo attached. She will be covered in a future post.Liking this SJ guy:

1) Good posts and pics.

2) Refers to himself in the third person.

Don't stop.

NapaSlapper
10-17-22, 10:33
Popped in for a while. Pretty OK lineup. P499 buffet was OK-ish, a shadow of its former glory, but can't complain with today's inflation, I guess. Girls seemed to keep mostly to themselves and were fed plenty SMLs, so they may be approachable later, didn't stay long though as I found the DJ / toastmaster pretty annoying. This event is currently held only on the third Sunday of every month, so plan accordingly.Have to agree that its a shadow of its former self for fun and quality of girls.

To me the line up was nothing special, the food was just edible at best.

Seems the girls are not barfineable at the event but maybe if bought a few drinks would tell punters of what bar they worked in for the guy to follow up that evening.

Would not hurry back any time soon as nothing here that cannot be found in any bar in walking street while saving the 500 pesos entrance fee.

FuriousGeorge
10-18-22, 08:52
It used to be every Saturday, without exception. Every 3rd Sunday seems weird but I guess it's better than nothing. Was always a fun time. If it's anything like the old days, girls can't be 'barfined' from the premises, but, at the end of the show they would auction off each girl individually to sit with you and have a drink (was always kind of sad when the girl got no offers). This is prime time to exchange info and meet up with them later. But keep in mind these are mostly prime chicks so you do need some game, and / or plenty of money.


More info please from anyone who has been. Can Models be barfined directly off the stage? I'm assuming digits can be obtained for later? Or is it just buy more beads and the girls get a commission?

Sounds like a great afternoon esp if no cameras.

Thanks. G.

Sailor Jack
10-18-22, 09:15
Sailor Jack highly recommends German restaurant 2 N1 Tapsihan. See more precise details on their sign in the picture.

2 N1 Tapsihan is located directly behind Queens Hotel. Among many other food items, 2 N1 Tapsihan.

Is currently offering all-you-can-eat German Sausage and potato salad for just 199 p! This is REAL German food and the highest quality. My first serving was more than enough for me, although they tried to give me more.

2 N1 Tapsihan is owned by a German / Filipina couple who own several international businesses. These good folks are fascinating to talk with.

I hope that they are very successful. Please give them a try!

Photo; Racer1 will be covered in an upcoming post.

Goferring
10-18-22, 10:49
Popped in for a while...


...This is prime time to exchange info and meet up with them later. But keep in mind these are mostly prime chicks so you do need some game, and / or plenty of money.Thanks guys. Definitely sounds worth a visit.

Luckily I'm full of Game, Looks, Wit and Charm. That's why I go to 3rd world countries to pay desperate girls to fuck me.

Perhaps I should bring my wallet. 😂.

Enjoy, G.

Sailor Jack
10-19-22, 10:04
This past Tuesday Sailor Jack is in the hotel breakfast café drinking coffee, eating a western omelet, and minding his own business like always. In walks a guy in a bath robe and flip flops [Picture Deleted by Admin]. Sailor Jack later asked the waitress if it was okay for Sailor Jack to show up in the café wearing only his banana hammocks. But the waitress thought SJ was trying to order some kind of dessert.

Random photos from the SJ archives.

NapaSlapper
10-20-22, 02:48
Sailor jack, nice to see some of the popular girl faces I remember from back in the day.

Now if Angeles still had these type of girls with the good attitude and not covered in tats then I'm sure Angeles bars would be a much happier place to visit.

Docwiltro
10-20-22, 08:52
These private buses are not running at the moment. I'm in AC now and was planning g to visit Subic, but only public bus is avaiable. Or private car.

Of course. Same goes for Manila. Bus from Dau or Gemini bus from SM Clark.I am taking the Rabbit bus from Manila to AC and the Blue Taxi to my hotel, and the Victory Liner from AC to Olongopo and a trike to my Barretto hotel. Obviously, someone needs to start up a minibus service to AC and Subic; I hear a lot of comments on the difficulty to getting around without spending major pesos getting from one locale to another.

Goferring
10-20-22, 10:08
I am taking the Rabbit bus from Manila to AC and the Blue Taxi to my hotel, and the Victory Liner from AC to Olongopo and a trike to my Barretto hotel. Obviously, someone needs to start up a minibus service to AC and Subic; I hear a lot of comments on the difficulty to getting around without spending major pesos getting from one locale to another.There are good connections between all AC, Subic and Manila cities. It's the first & final mile that are the issue. No monger stays at Pasay, Dau or Olongapo so the trike mafia must be used. But that's the price of 300 p transport. We get what we pay for.

Want door to door? Pay for a car.

Sammon
10-20-22, 11:18
I am taking the Rabbit bus from Manila to AC and the Blue Taxi to my hotel, and the Victory Liner from AC to Olongopo and a trike to my Barretto hotel. Obviously, someone needs to start up a minibus service to AC and Subic; I hear a lot of comments on the difficulty to getting around without spending major pesos getting from one locale to another.There were buses before from two companies doing door to door transport. But combination of low ridership and management issues shut them down.

Yes it is a pain in the neck especially if you have luggage. Taxi is too expensive for approx 30 km. Public Buses are cheap but they only depart from selected places. Genesis airport bus charges around 200 pesos and drops off at the mall. Still a trike is needed. No escaping from trike mafia.

Goferring
10-20-22, 11:31
Genesis airport bus charges around 200 pesos and drops off at the mall. Still a trike is needed. No escaping from trike mafia.Depends on which hotel is chosen. Many choose their hotel based on features. For me, location is far more important than fitout and luxuries. I'm unlikely to stay anywhere that I can't walk to 90% of places I want.

There are a few hotels walking distance from SM Clark but they may not be to everyone's liking.

Pute Nut
10-20-22, 12:52
There were buses before from two companies doing door to door transport. But combination of low ridership and management issues shut them down.

Yes it is a pain in the neck especially if you have luggage. Taxi is too expensive for approx 30 km. Public Buses are cheap but they only depart from selected places. Genesis airport bus charges around 200 pesos and drops off at the mall. Still a trike is needed. No escaping from trike mafia.There's a Blue Taxi bay near the main SM entrance. Flagfall is like P40. Additionally there are often Blue Taxis cruising past the dropoff point at the SM side entrance.

Pute Nut
10-20-22, 15:27
Have been in town for a while now, my last stay was in May of this year. When it comes to AC now vs the golden years, it's of course nothing to write home about. That said, I have to admit that especially the Walking Street bars are now stocked with enough cuties to go around. My impression is that there has been an improvement over the last few months, with new girls entering into the trade. If you don't mind the high airfare and the P 3500-5000 barfines, a great time can certainly be had. AC is far from over and done.

Sock111
10-20-22, 18:30
I found the DJ / toastmaster pretty annoying. This event is currently held only on the third Sunday of every month, so plan accordingly.I hate that guys voice too. He tries to mimic a WWE announcer, we are not getting ready to rumble. Most of the time I just don't understand what he's saying.

Bugzy 69
10-20-22, 19:23
He tries to create a vibe like its a full blown foam party in Vegas. But jokes apart, although its a very old fashioned pool party its a good option to break the monotony created by the lack of daily activities in AC. Years ago even Wild Orchard Resort organized such parties which were better than Scorebirds.


I hate that guys voice too. He tries to mimic a WWE announcer, we are not getting ready to rumble. Most of the time I just don't understand what he's saying.

Threadbare
10-20-22, 21:05
Did you ever make it to Subic? How did you get there?No I didn't go in the end and I was able to cancel the CP Reef hotel free of charge. You could take a car, or public bus from Dau terminal, Victory Liner I think.

Engine Driver
10-20-22, 22:14
I am taking the Rabbit bus from Manila to AC and the Blue Taxi to my hotel, and the Victory Liner from AC to Olongopo and a trike to my Barretto hotel. Obviously, someone needs to start up a minibus service to AC and Subic; I hear a lot of comments on the difficulty to getting around without spending major pesos getting from one locale to another.A couple of Australian pirates did run a Monger Express from Manila to AC and then AC to Subic, but it collapsed during the pandemic. I think tight ass mongers also baulked at the cost - 500 pesos. Mongers preferred the Victory Liner service from Pasay for 180 pesos. This was better than cramming into a Toyota mini bus provided by the pirates. There was air conditioning, more leg room, free WiFi and they could watch Korean drama on the screen at 140 db volume. They could also buy tasty snacks off the cute female street vendors along the way.

Threadbare
10-20-22, 22:48
Thought I'd posted this but can't see it here! Wednesday I went to SM Clark for brunch at the French Bakery cafe, and walking back to town I spotted a really cute little thing who replied with a lovely smile when I said Hi. She agreed to come back to my hotel (Envy Suites) to watch a movie, and wanted to walk even though we were close to Margerita Station. This was around 2 pm, and she stayed till around 11 the next morning. She had a stunning body and was great in bed too. We went to One Euphoria for dinner which was pretty good on the rooftop restaurant. She sometimes works in a KTV in Korea Town but not that night fortunately. She was so good I got her back Thursday night too. She asked 5 k each time and I was happy at that. Friday afternoon I had a little freelancer I met outside Phillies who was great fun and even managed to wet my bed while I was licking her and fingering her ass, great fun. 2 k plus tip for that one, Jessicabel. Overnight I got back the FL I did on Monday. She's a real performer, great bb sex, deep throat BJ and let me have her ass cherry too. 8 pm till 8 am, another 5 k well spent. Saturday afternoon I walked up to the little hole in the wall bar near boomerang Hotel and found there are now 3 little bars there offering BJ and FS on the premises. They were a bit older, but when I said I preferred younger models they managed to find a 19 year old in 5 minutes! I said ID go back later when it was cooler. I then.

Decided to have a beer in the Raymond Street Hole in the wall bar. Needless to say I was soon joined by a young lady who started giving a HJ as I bought her a drink. She offered a BJ in the back room or my nearby hotel. Hotel it was so off we went. Once again BBFS was also on the menu and all in for 1500. I gave her 500 tip. Later had a visit from my regular from earlier visits, and after that I went to check out the bar scene. Interestingly some bars seem to have girls with street clothes, others in their underwear at best. 123 was underwear so had a beer and LD in there with another young lady trying to give me a HJ. They will lap dance you too, and charge 5 k for BFLT. Didn't take that offer but found a tiny FL in the street, she was tiny and tightest pussy I ever had, lovely girl called Marsha. Final day Sunday and feeling a bit shagged out, so quiet day, just finished off with my a level girl from Friday night. Another solid performance from her finished off my week in AC quite nicely. Monday morning off to Makati via air conditioned Genesis bus from SM Clark to Manila airport, cost is 385 php to T3 and took just 2 hours non stop. There's a timetable at the stop at SM Clark main entrance by the French Bakery. Overnight in Makati is reported in that thread, my last night on this trip.

Old And Ugly
10-22-22, 08:13
I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.

Dg8787
10-22-22, 21:27
I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.Typically you would pay them for their days. It is some what negotiable but They have rent to pay and their families to feed. This is something everyone should have an agreement on upfront. Customary for the AC girls to understand and expect that they would get some pay for the days.

Airfare and hotels are relatively cheaper now. Small fortune? If you cant swing the big one and pay then don't.

You arent doing them any favors by taking them away from their earnings. AC is PnP not a dating site. Girls are there to make money to feed their families.

Goferring
10-22-22, 21:52
I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.Unfortunately, you have been played. Girls roping in numerous friends for extra barfines, drinks, extras etc is a sure sign. Sounds like it cost you a few bucks to learn the lesson but it probably saved you money in the long run. In Bora, all would have needed bikinis, phone load, nice meals, the list would have gone on forever.

Bargirls can be taken out of the bar but the details need to be sorted out upfront. Barfines, tips, spending money all need to be known before committing to hotels, airfares etc. Girls will commonly tell the bars that they are going home, so no barfines will be payable but they do expect some compensation. Remember girls can't eat air-conditioning.

I'd agree that, all in, travelling with a bargirl very rarely works out cheaper than purchasing locally, even if there is a tourist tax.

Enjoy. G.


OK, so the trip above is now finished. Her attitude improved over the second week but still wasn't all that I had hoped for....

Old And Ugly
10-23-22, 00:31
Typically you would pay them for their days. It is some what negotiable but They have rent to pay and their families to feed. This is something everyone should have an agreement on upfront. Customary for the AC girls to understand and expect that they would get some pay for the days.

Airfare and hotels are relatively cheaper now. Small fortune? If you cant swing the big one and pay then don't.

You arent doing them any favors by taking them away from their earnings. AC is PnP not a dating site. Girls are there to make money to feed their families.I will explain the small fortune thing, and the favor:

Boracay is nice, but not my first choice, I'd rather explore a new place, (like valencia, where everybody seems to move to) I'll go there because the girls want to visit the place, so is not like I want to go there and I need company, I'm doing it for them.

One needs a babysitter at 1 k / day = 5 k.

I told them I will give them each 1 k / day to make up for lost wages, not barfines = 15 k.

Airfare was total = 24 k.

Hotel = 20 k.

Restaurants and bars will be probably another 20 k / day = 100 k.

As you can see it adds up pretty fast to about $2500 which is kind of a small fortune for 5 days in philippines.

Anyway, I've been visiting angeles city for over a decade now (twice a year), and this year is the first time when I was doing repeats, and it looks like nothing good is coming out of it. I must revert to the old ways of doing it. With that money you can bang at least 20 different chicks including lady drinks, not only 3.

AsianPursuits
10-23-22, 00:57
Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?When I was negotiating with two girls to take them on a trip away, it was two different negotiations. One works as a waitress at Viking. She was hard on the negotiation expecting a full compensation on her 10 days away. The other girl was a Lollipop casual door girl (and free lancer). She was much easier and we settled on a cash payment to her to cover her pre-travel purchases, some clothes and bikini, her travel to / from NAIA. I covered airfare, meals, hotels etc while we were away. I gave up on the waitress and settled for the doorgirl.

Sammon
10-23-22, 02:28
I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.It is never a good idea to take bargirls on vacation. There is a reason why they are in Angeles and doing what they are doing. Their shelf life is short and they know it. They need to make as much money as possible in that short time. Ever see why they fight over each other when 20 pesos bills are raining down on them? They are least bit interested in beach vacation. Firstly they want less sun than more sun. Whole of Philippines is a beach location. These girls will only go if the price is right. What are are going to do with three girls? One on each arm and one holding your dick?

I have taken non bargirls on vacation. For them it is no different staying in town. They are happy just staying inside the room and fuck on demand. Watersports? Many cannot swim and afraid of water. Cannot fuck under the water because of heavy pollution and plenty of squiggly things in water and you do not want to take off your shorts. By 9 in the morning it is hot as hell. Girls will never go out and do touristy things compared to American girls. Food wise they only eat Philippine dishes. That too in small portions. One girl really liked the day trip to Bohol from cebu. We had a good time hiring a private car. Bought her few trinkets. I do not take any girl on beach vacations. Better stay in town. My routine is after breakfast I go for massage leaving the girl in the room. Bring her some lunch on the way back. Fuck and take a nap. In the evening if the girl wants to go out we go out to a nice restaurant. Some do and some don't. Then I bring the same take out food for them. You will be sorry if you take them on a beach vacation for number of days. Long time ago I took two very pretty girls to beach near Subic. Trike, bus, trike and we were there. Eat and stay in shade looking at the water. Later only thing they enjoyed is when I took them on jet ski.

Dg8787
10-23-22, 04:41
I will explain the small fortune thing, and the favor:

Boracay is nice, but not my first choice, I'd rather explore a new place, (like valencia, where everybody seems to move to) I'll go there because the girls want to visit the place, so is not like I want to go there and I need company, I'm doing it for them.

One needs a babysitter at 1 k / day = 5 k.

I told them I will give them each 1 k / day to make up for lost wages, not barfines = 15 k.

Airfare was total = 24 k.

Hotel = 20 k.

Restaurants and bars will be probably another 20 k / day = 100 k.

As you can see it adds up pretty fast to about $2500 which is kind of a small fortune for 5 days in philippines.

Anyway, I've been visiting angeles city for over a decade now (twice a year), and this year is the first time when I was doing repeats, and it looks like nothing good is coming out of it. I must revert to the old ways of doing it. With that money you can bang at least 20 different chicks including lady drinks, not only 3.If you are really doing it just for them then just straight out give them the money. All of it otherwise I just don't see you just doing it for just them. Or half of it and use the other half for some new pussy.

Be a cheerful giver.

Sailor Jack
10-23-22, 04:53
Sailor Jack is walking back from the gym near Checkpoint and minding his own business like always. Sailor Jack spots Racer1. Racer1 was a door girl at a bar out on Perimeter. Although Racer1 was fully clothed, it was clear how hot she was. I took Racer1 for a boss's girl. Sailor Jack is in his sweaty gym clothes and SJ did not have his phone. Sailor Jack chatted up Racer1 and she is indeed interested. Sailor Jack asks Racer1 for her number, which SJ memorizes instantly after she says it just one time. Racer1 does not think Sailor Jack will remember her number or bother to text her. Of course, Sailor Jack texts Racer1 just as soon as SJ gets back to his room.

Fast forward 6 months. Sailor Jack sees Racer1 3-4 times per month. She is 20 and from Samar. Racer1 did tell me more about herself but none of that information ever matched what she told me the times before so there is no reason to repeat any of it here.

Racer1 is a true sexual athlete. A real hard fucking bargirl pro at 20. Racer1 will only do short time which is fine with Sailor Jack. And it is always WBTYM sex. Some damn fine WBTYM sex to be sure. Sailor Jack really enjoys the impromptu hide the salami short times. And Sailor Jack becomes amused by Racer1's bola bola stories about who she is, where she is from, and other things going on in her life. None of it ever matched what she told Sailor Jack before. Sailor Jack wonders if she thinks SJ is too stupid to remember what she said before. Then Sailor Jack begins to think Racer1 actually believes what she is telling SJ. Why the hell am I analyzing this anyway? Just bend her over and pound some sense into her. Yeh, now that sure makes good sense to Sailor Jack.

Later on, in a few of our last sessions, Racer1 was more erratic talking than usual. Sailor Jack thought she might be on drugs or more than a little crazy. Alas, Sailor Jack stopped seeing Racer1 altogether.

Related topic; In this same time period Sailor Jack has been chatting up and flirting a waitress (Sis1) at his favorite breakfast restaurant. Sis1 is a regular Filipina, kinda cute, and she has a really hot body. This has progressed to Sis1 giving Sailor Jack a passionate hug and kiss each morning in the breakfast room and in front of fellow Mongers. Well, such a nice way to start the day. Sailor Jack credits this to his prodigious animal magnetism and to the fact that by breakfast time Sailor Jack is covered head to toe with pussy pheromones from the night before and with sex juice from just before coming down to breakfast.

Sailor Jack is positioning Sis1 for the kill when she suddenly goes cold. After a couple of days of the cold shoulder Sailor Jack finds out why.

Sis1; "Do you know a girl named Racer1 ?

Sailor Jack; "Um. Uh. Yes. ".

Sis1; "Racer1 is my sister. ".

Sailor Jack; "Oh. ".

Sis1 apparently now thinks that Sailor Jack is a hard core butterfly monger who bangs every single Filipina he can manage to get his joystick into. Okay, well maybe that is true.

Sailor Jack
10-23-22, 04:56
And then Sis1 ignores my suggestion for a threesome with her sister Racer1. Go figure.

ForkTruck
10-23-22, 10:33
It is never a good idea to take bargirls on vacation. What is a vacation in your mind is a business trip in theirs.

FT.

Old And Ugly
10-23-22, 13:26
What is a vacation in your mind is a business trip in theirs.

FT.That's the best explanation, ever!

Goferring
10-23-22, 16:22
What is a vacation in your mind is a business trip in theirs.

FT.👍. Sounds like it was going to be unpiad overtime with he boss complaining about their attitude. 😊.

Girlfinder
10-23-22, 22:07
I will explain the small fortune thing, and the favor:

Boracay is nice, but not my first choice, I'd rather explore a new place, (like valencia, where everybody seems to move to) I'll go there because the girls want to visit the place, so is not like I want to go there and I need company, I'm doing it for them.

One needs a babysitter at 1 k / day = 5 k.

I told them I will give them each 1 k / day to make up for lost wages, not barfines = 15 k.

Airfare was total = 24 k.

Hotel = 20 k.

Restaurants and bars will be probably another 20 k / day = 100 kWaste of money. They play you. A babysitter is not 1 k / day, 200-300 p at most.

AsianPursuits
10-23-22, 23:20
Sis1 apparently now thinks that Sailor Jack is a hard core butterfly monger who bangs every single Filipina he can manage to get his joystick into. Okay, well maybe that is true.Deep down she already knew this but she wanted to believe you were different. As you discovered AC is a a very small place if you have been there more that a few months.

Old And Ugly
10-24-22, 15:29
Waste of money. They play you. A babysitter is not 1 k / day, 200-300 p at most.I know, she didn't ask, I offered. I don't mind giving small help or incentives.

Update: they're all coming without the barfine.

Expat American
10-24-22, 18:27
I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.I'm curious why you would want to do that? They will just chatter with each other in Tagalog and play on their phones 95% of the time. It would annoy the fuck out of me! I find it very sad to see old expats sitting mutely with a young filipina across a table at dinner. No conversation, no connection, nothing. ID rather eat alone, get a girl to fuck when I want and send her on her way with a dripping pussy and few pesos. Don't need them around for anything else.

Mr Enternational
10-24-22, 20:23
I'm curious why you would want to do that? They will just chatter with each other in Tagalog and play on their phones 95% of the time. It would annoy the fuck out of me! I find it very sad to see old expats sitting mutely with a young filipina across a table at dinner. No conversation, no connection, nothing.Everyone has to learn on their own and a lot of us the hard way. It is like a slice of pie is delicious, but letting your eyes overload your ass and trying to engorge an entire pie at once is not such a treat. I think he is about to find that out through diminishing returns.

WestCoast1
10-25-22, 00:33
I find it very sad to see old expats sitting mutely with a young filipina across a table at dinner. No conversation, no connection, nothing. ID rather eat alone, get a girl to fuck when I want and send her on her way with a dripping pussy and few pesos. Don't need them around for anything else.Generally I'm with you.

But it can be nice to have something (s) warm to cuddle with in the night sometimes. A great spinner ass to my left, nice tits to my right. While I agree with the other gents that OAU misread the culture and the situation and its expectations, things could be worse for him: he could be in his home country.

OAU don't forget to give us a field report from your vacay.

Old And Ugly
10-26-22, 06:37
Generally I'm with you.

But it can be nice to have something (s) warm to cuddle with in the night sometimes. A great spinner ass to my left, nice tits to my right. While I agree with the other gents that OAU misread the culture and the situation and its expectations, things could be worse for him: he could be in his home country.

OAU don't forget to give us a field report from your vacay.You are correct, actually I'm back in the us right now, and when I look around I see only whales, with an attitude. I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. Can't wait to get back there, where 100 bucks buys love for the whole night, with a young good looking one that in the us only the millionaires can afford.

In us, like many others, I'm considered "expired" but that's not the case in the Philippines where money talks (AC/ DC).

Because I'm an old pervert, I always liked 3 somes, in the past decade before corona was kind of difficult to assemble a good team, but this year seems to be the norm, most times the girls volunteer without even me asking first. I don't know what happened, why this change in mentality (one of the few good changes), maybe is easier access to porn, the food or the water.

Of course I will report about the trip, it should work smooth, the whole team had numerous training sessions in the past in various configurations, including all on deck.

Dg8787
10-27-22, 01:33
You are correct, actually I'm back in the us right now, and when I look around I see only whales, with an attitude. I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. Can't wait to get back there, where 100 bucks buys love for the whole night, with a young good looking one that in the us only the millionaires can afford.

In us, like many others, I'm considered "expired" but that's not the case in the Philippines where money talks (AC/ DC).

Because I'm an old pervert, I always liked 3 somes, in the past decade before corona was kind of difficult to assemble a good team, but this year seems to be the norm, most times the girls volunteer without even me asking first. I don't know what happened, why this change in mentality (one of the few good changes), maybe is easier access to porn, the food or the water.

Of course I will report about the trip, it should work smooth, the whole team had numerous training sessions in the past in various configurations, including all on deck.I was under the impression the Boracay trip was happening now or it just happened?

What's the story?

Sammon
10-27-22, 01:50
I was under the impression the Boracay trip was happening now or it just happened?

What's the story?I believe he gave up and lost money.

Old And Ugly
10-27-22, 05:11
I was under the impression the Boracay trip was happening now or it just happened?

What's the story?Nah, why I would give up? Is happening in about 2 weeks, when I return to the Philippines.

Anyway Angeles city is great for bed only activities, and after one week is getting kind of boring, this is the reason why I like to explore some other places for a few days, then return.

Any suggestions about nice places other than the ones I visited so far over the years: Boracay, Cebu, moalboal, oslob, bohol, el nido, Puerto Princesa, Sabang, Banaue, Baguio, Manila, Subic?

WestCoast1
10-27-22, 15:19
Nah, why I would give up? Is happening in about 2 weeks, when I return to the Philippines.

Anyway Angeles city is great for bed only activities, and after one week is getting kind of boring, this is the reason why I like to explore some other places for a few days, then return.

Any suggestions about nice places other than the ones I visited so far over the years: Boracay, Cebu, moalboal, oslob, bohol, el nido, Puerto Princesa, Sabang, Banaue, Baguio, Manila, Subic?Consider Siargao; way off the beaten path.

Old And Ugly
10-27-22, 15:27
Consider Siargao; way off the beaten path.Thanks, I will definitely do it.

Dg8787
10-30-22, 01:43
Flew into Manila the other night. Blew thru immigration in less than 5 minutes. Flashed my One Health Pass QR code and was waved thru. It was so fast that I was at the luggage carousel waiting for 5 minutes for my bag. Beeway Travel driver was waiting me at the Burger King just to the right as you exit customs. BTW, the past three times I had filled out the customs form on the plane and there was no one to take the form! Just walked right on thru the non-Filipino lane with no Custom officer present.

FYI, As we walked to the parking lot I noticed the Genesis bus was parked at Bay 14 median. It was 9:30 pm. Not sure if it was just dropping off or picking up. Good news is it is running later than before.

Walking Street is more active now.

WestCoast1
10-30-22, 08:56
BTW, the past three times I had filled out the customs form on the plane and there was no one to take the form! Just walked right on thru the non-Filipino lane with no Custom officer present.In my experience its 50%, the times that anyone is manning the Customs area. I just fold the form and put it in my pocket in case anyone asks for it past the Customs area, tossing at the hotel.

On another note. As AC seems to be the go-to place for point-shoot gogo girls, especially given the barfines are about 1/3 or 1/2 of Burgos / Makati. Should Clark be the airport of choice, not NAIA? That avoids the NAIA-AC travel excursion (costs money + time) completely.

Sammon
10-30-22, 11:17
In my experience its 50%, the times that anyone is manning the Customs area. I just fold the form and put it in my pocket in case anyone asks for it past the Customs area, tossing at the hotel..In my case they were collecting the forms. I guess it depends on who is there, taking a break or did not show up work. IMHO they should get rid stupid forms. All luggage goes through the X-Rays anyway.

Pute Nut
10-30-22, 12:11
Should Clark be the airport of choice, not NAIA? That avoids the NAIA-AC travel excursion (costs money + time) completely.Yes, it's still a very quiet airport. No lines to speak of, except the usual cattle class checkin / boarding lines. Security / immigration a breeze. Recent pic.

Heads up for the "open air" lounge which is very basic and only serves some sweet cookies / breads. Staff is nice enough though. Coffee choices are brewed or instant only.

There is an additional Plaza lounge open now as well, but it's pay access only (2480 PHP).

Dg8787
10-30-22, 15:19
CRK would be my choice airport international and domestic. There were plenty of flights and they were adding more pre Covid. Now 80%+ flights have been eliminated and it doesn't seem to be coming back. CRK used have direct flights to many province cities prior to Covid. Now you have to travel to Manila as the hub for domestic flights.

AsianPursuits
10-30-22, 22:06
CRK would be my choice airport international and domestic. There were plenty of flights and they were adding more pre Covid. Now 80%+ flights have been eliminated and it doesn't seem to be coming back. CRK used have direct flights to many province cities prior to Covid. Now you have to travel to Manila as the hub for domestic flights.Certainly unfortunate timing on the construction and opening of the new terminal. I don't like the new location being harder for access to fun city.

But flights will return. MNL has the one long runway which will soon again be at capacity.

Depending on where you are going CEB is a reasonable staging point. In my upcoming provincial vax clinic tour it's cheaper and time effective to go via CEB, land in CRK and avoid the need for the MNL-Angeles car transport.

Goferring
10-30-22, 23:03
Should Clark be the airport of choice, not NAIA? That avoids the NAIA-AC travel excursion (costs money + time) completely.I depends on where you are going. Just flying in for a week or two's fun and spending most of that time in AC, then it's a no brainer. For longer trips, possibly spending minimal or even no time in AC, then I find NAIA better due to the number of connections at all times of the day.

I will admit that a provincial tour can turn into endless hub and spoke flights in and out of the major cities. For this I try to go through all of AC, Cebu and Manila so that I get time in all three without repeatedly back tracking.

Sammon
10-31-22, 02:25
Certainly unfortunate timing on the construction and opening of the new terminal. I don't like the new location being harder for access to fun city.

But flights will return. MNL has the one long runway which will soon again be at capacity.

Depending on where you are going CEB is a reasonable staging point. I found many flights are going to Cebu directly. There are some including Turkish I flew makes a stop in Manila and in an hour or so continue to cebu. Frequency of Cebu to Angeles is not many. I found only two airlines fly and both were expensive and at odd times. Cheapest is to Manila. They were building another runway parallel to the present one I believe. But with 4 terminals now the traffic as well as congestion inside the airport has ceased. Immigration lines in Manila airport which was a nightmare before has eased. You are at the luggage carousel before the bags arrive. None of the taxi's turn on the meter even if you are in line for meter taxi. Maybe they do for locals. With the expressways now finished you are not in endless traffic jams. I believe they are connecting Roxas highway to north south expressway which will shorten the trip to Angeles. I liked fly the bus before. No hassles door to door from Ermita. For those who come in late there us a nice hotel near Trinoma with good breakfast. Walking distance to the mall and catch bus to Angeles. I stayed there one time because I was meeting a girl from Quezon City who was very nice although my go to area is Ermita.

Sailor Jack
10-31-22, 05:20
Tropical Storm Nalgae (Paeng) passed over the Philippines Friday October 28th and Saturday October 29th. This storm never reached typhoon status but up to 100 deaths were reported across the Philippines.

The center of the storm passed just north of Angeles City. AC got intermittent heavy thunderstorms and there were a dozen or so brown outs lasting 10 to 30 minutes. There were fewer girls and guys in the bars Friday and Saturday.

Now it is Halloween Monday October 31st and AC is still having rain storms. Sometimes heavy rain. That is enough for Philippinos to stay home. My guess is that this Monday will be more dead than usual.

Random photos from SJ Archives.

AsianPursuits
10-31-22, 08:25
I found many flights are going to Cebu directly..Mongers wanting to land directly into CRK currently have options of arriving from Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Seoul, Shanghai. (As of 1 Nov 2022).

Domestic flights are landing from Cebu, El Nido, Caticlan.

For my upcoming provincial tour some legs are a trade off between just going direct to MNL then a car to AC or going via CEB then to CRK as the flights do not through connect bags, so one flight arrives, you collect bags and check in again which I allow 3 hours in Cebu. So going via Cebu to avoid the 90 minute drive MNL. AC doesn't make sense. If I am in Cebu for a few days then it makes sense to catch the direct flight to CRK. A flight CEB-CRK is cheaper than a Beeway car MNL. AC.

The other consideration for mongers is actual arrival time. Which in itself may be vastly different to the schedule. The expressway seems more predictable these days.

Expat American
10-31-22, 09:45
Yes, it's still a very quiet airport. No lines to speak of, except the usual cattle class checkin / boarding lines. Security / immigration a breeze. Recent pic.

Heads up for the "open air" lounge which is very basic and only serves some sweet cookies / breads. Staff is nice enough though. Coffee choices are brewed or instant only.

There is an additional Plaza lounge open now as well, but it's pay access only (2480 PHP).CRK is a great terminal from the outside but no services inside. The "lounge" is just an open cordoned off area with no real food, just a few drinks in the fridge. No separate Wifi. There is the PP lounge but ever since Priority Plus broke off with them can't use without the ridiculous fee. Not many food choices or other amenities. But still, avoiding MNL is worth it and I get cheap flights from SIN so it works for me.

WestCoast1
10-31-22, 11:26
SNIP Not many food choices or other amenities. But still, avoiding MNL is worth it and I get cheap flights from SIN so it works for me.Concur. Wherever you are coming from, it makes more sense to fly directly to CRK first, grab the next available taxi (who cares if its p300 for a short ride) to your hotel, grab some food at Phillies (or such), crash / sleep and burn off some jet-lag. Get up the next day and start vaxxing. Otherwise skip the sleep and start your own temporary vaxxing clinic.

If traveling out of AC by car / bus later, try to travel on a Sunday, as traffic is very light. I am very happy with Beeway's car service, they are easy to contact and communicate succinctly. $75 USD gets you from door to door in under 2 hours with a courteous professional driver, who knows exactly where he is dropping you off.

Pute Nut
10-31-22, 11:52
The Filipino travelers were busy ordering empanyadas and other sweet breads from the MaryGrace shop near the "lounge". Next to the Plaza pay-in lounge there is also a restaurant with very reasonable pricing (for an airport), so there are definately some (limited, I concur) options for the hungry. I tried neither since I could expect great dining onboard (flew one of the long haul flights).

All in all a very smooth and effortless airport, I like it!


CRK is a great terminal from the outside but no services inside. The "lounge" is just an open cordoned off area with no real food, just a few drinks in the fridge. No separate Wifi. There is the PP lounge but ever since Priority Plus broke off with them can't use without the ridiculous fee. Not many food choices or other amenities. But still, avoiding MNL is worth it and I get cheap flights from SIN so it works for me.

Dg8787
11-01-22, 03:22
I think I messed up badly. I checked out of ABC Halloween afternoon on my way to Manila to meet some friends. On my way out I noticed so many hot and sexy girls coming in. The receptionist exclaimed "Mr. DG you are going to miss out on our huge Halloween Party!" I was never a fan of Halloween parties.

But next year I am going to get me table at Aqua with 4-5 hot babes and take them to my room as I please during the evening. Fuck them in their costumes and go back to the party. Maybe even pick up a FL or two!

Now I have all year to fantasize and plan this.

As ABC says YOLO.

Goferring
11-01-22, 09:22
The receptionist exclaimed "Mr. DG you are going to miss out on our huge Halloween Party!" I was never a fan of Halloween parties.

But next year I am going to get me table at Aqua with 4-5 hot babes and take them to my room as I please during the evening. Fuck them in their costumes and go back to the party. Maybe even pick up a FL or two!

Now I have all year to fantasize and plan this.Hahaha. It's a universal truth that the best chicks and near misses always pop up in the last 36 hours of a visit.

Enjoy. G.

Dg8787
11-01-22, 14:41
I think I messed up badly. I checked out of ABC Halloween afternoon on my way to Manila to meet some friends. On my way out I noticed so many hot and sexy girls coming in. The receptionist exclaimed "Mr. DG you are going to miss out on our huge Halloween Party!" I was never a fan of Halloween parties.

But next year I am going to get me table at Aqua with 4-5 hot babes and take them to my room as I please during the evening. Fuck them in their costumes and go back to the party. Maybe even pick up a FL or two!

Now I have all year to fantasize and plan this.

As ABC says YOLO.Now I understand why a few nights before Halloween at ABC I had seen a few guys sitting around with a stable of girls. They were quite a bit older and quite a bit over weight balding guys. These guys were in shorts and sandals while theirs girls were all in hooker attire. They came to party!

Well next year I am going to be the pimp daddy.

AsianPursuits
11-01-22, 22:44
Hahaha. It's a universal truth that the best chicks and near misses always pop up in the last 36 hours of a visit..How true that is. Why do you think that is? Is it because we stop chasing numbers, start reducing our intensity which lets the stunners shine through?

Goferring
11-01-22, 23:14
Now I understand why a few nights before Halloween at ABC I had seen a few guys sitting around with a stable of girls. They were quite a bit older and quite a bit over weight balding guys. These guys were in shorts and sandals while theirs girls were all in hooker attire. They came to party!

Well next year I am going to be the pimp daddy.Forgive me, I'm a slow learner. Are we saying the girls arrived with existing patrons from Manila etc or are we saying that they turned up enmasse to try their luck as freelancers at Aqua etc. ?

Dg8787
11-02-22, 02:15
Forgive me, I'm a slow learner. Are we saying the girls arrived with existing patrons from Manila etc or are we saying that they turned up enmasse to try their luck as freelancers at Aqua etc. ?I didn't survey where they came from nor asked the guys where they were from or staying at.

The girls were all dolled up with skimpy clothes and high heels. Almost to seduce me or to impressed the other girls. All I know is they were hot and there was many! Also I don't know their real intentions or than to have fun.

Next year I am going to be pimp daddy.

Goferring
11-02-22, 07:39
How true that is. Why do you think that is? Is it because we stop chasing numbers, start reducing our intensity which lets the stunners shine through?I can only speak for myself but by the time I'm leaving town / country:

1/ I no longer have desperate new arrival stamped across my forehead.

2/ I've relearnt the pointlessness of expecting performance to be related to cost or looks.

3/ I've had my fill of bar slots and have bumped into a couple of less mercenary civilians.

4/ My balls are empty, my back hurts and the last thing I need is another fuck ie. Girls really have to be worth me selecting them.

As usual, YMMV.

Enjoy. G.

Dg8787
11-03-22, 04:50
Can anyone tell me about previous Aqua NYE parties?

Was it fun?

Lots of sexy dressed girls?

One girl told me it was too smoky there.

Your thoughts and experience please?

Sailor Jack
11-03-22, 16:27
Sailor Jack is in a small Fields Avenue Bar late at night. This bar has kept the same name and the same mamasans for 20 years. For a moment SJ thinks that sounds depressing, but then Sailor Jack realizes he is sitting in the same seat that he occupied many times over the last 2 decades. And likely Sailor Jack has boom2 some of the mothers of the girls on the stage. So, all seems right with the world.

Sailor Jack is drinking a Tanduay Rum neat and minding his own business like always.

Sailor Jack spots two girls sitting near the stage who look like identical twins. Pussy Ho! Sailor Jack steps lively over to their table with the smell of fresh fish in the air and his harpoon stiffening. Sailor Jack girldrinks them both and starts the interview process. They are from Mindanao. Are they sisters? Are they twins? Now here Sailor Jack's stellar interview process goes awry because both of these girls have Pekinese voice and Sailor Jack cannot understand much of what they are saying. No worries. We will figure out the family tree later. Bihon1 and Bihon2 both giggle in unison. That makes Sailor Jack's tiller stand at attention. Sailor Jack says "We go barfine na?" This all parties do understand. Again the sisters giggle in unison and Sailor Jacks tiller situation becomes urgent.

The deal is struck and we depart for Sailor Jack's lair. Now Sailor Jack is not a fan of threesomes. SJ's experience is that some one in the threesome is often not pulling their weight. Like hiding in the CR or sleeping or playing with their phone or some other horseshit. And one of Sailor Jack's lifelong laments is that Sailor Jack has only one penis to begin with.

So Bihon1 and Sailor Jack begin maneuvers. Bihon1 has a hot little tight gymnast body and soft brown skin. Bihon2 is laying on the bed next to us pretending not to watch. But Bihon2 is actually watching intently. SJ is not sure how Sailor Jack's tiller will perform with an audience because SJ has not done this with an audience before. Sailor Jack grabs Bihon1 by the ears and puts her on her knees. Bihon1 is about to say something as Sailor Jack's torpedo interrupts and the Pekinese voice is muted. Bihon1 and Sailor Jack perform a boisterous session of the naked watusi with Bihon2 laying in the bed next to them. Finish comes with Bihon1 bent over in doggy style with her head nearly on top of Bihon2's chest. Sailor Jack collapses on the bed next to Bihon2. Bihon1 jumps up, dresses quickly, and heads for the door. Sailor Jack protests. But Bihon1 says she has to go meet her boyfriend. Well, crap, is this really a threesome or what?

Bihon1 heads out the door and Sailor Jack wonders what will happen next. Is Bihon2 put off by this? Is Bihon2 going to bolt for the door also? What now? The door closes behind Bihon1 and Bihon2 immediately rolls toward Sailor Jack and starts playing with his tiller. Damn, Sailor Jack thinks, SJ just completed an Olympic Gold Medal boom2 on her sister Bihon1. Sailor Jack is not sure he is ready for another round just yet. And then Bihon2 giggles. The tiller problem immediately reemerges. Bihon2 and Sailor Jack put all canvas to the wind.

It turns out that Bihon2 was quite turned on by watching the earlier action and she wanted some for herself. Sailor Jack also rather liked having an audience.

9 am next morning Bihon2 awakes with a start and she says she has to go. Sailor Jack gently then forcefully guides her back on her pillow and introduces her to Mr MorningWood. Brisk morning exercises are completed and Bihon2 falls back to sleep.

10 am. Again Bihon2 awakes with a start and says she has to go. By now Sailor Jack knows these waters well and Sailor Jack positions Bihon2 for a firm docking procedure. Together we make the sign of the double-humped aardvark, and Bihon2 again falls asleep.

11 am. Bihon2 awakes but Sailor Jack already has a good firm grip on Bihon2. Bihon2 giggles softly and SJ's tiller awakens for yet another quickie, this time a proper doggie style shagging, completed with a satisfying skin slapping, pounding sound. Bihon2 pushes Sailor Jack away and says she really must report in by noon. Bihon2 leaves in a hurry.

Now this was Sailor Jack's best all time performance. Why? SJ really cannot explain it. The girls were good looking, but certainly not 10's. Maybe it was the sister thing. Maybe having an audience? No, it was that little giggle that put the wood in Sailor Jack's tiller.

Oh, at some point in the evening Sailor Jack did learn that Bihon1 and Bihon2 are sisters born just 9 months apart. They are not actually twins. So fill out your scorecards accordingly.

I would never see Bihon1 again. Bihon2 went to work at BodyShop. Sailor Jack would try to barfine Bihon2 several times but she refused SJ every time. Sailor Jack could see the fear in Bihon2's eyes over Sailor Jack's epic prior performance. Bihon2 would now only have girl drinks with Sailor Jack.

And then she would giggle.

GreenBud
11-04-22, 11:35
- Atlantis went down hill for being a mega club.

- XS is now the best mega club. Was told many of the dancers moved from Atlantis to XS. Barfine was 5000 and 4000 for short time. Does that mean 5000 is a guarantee for long time? Not sure. The best looking girls in Angeles seems to be a few of the "taped super models". But I was told most / all of them are not available. They have decent entertainment.

- As someone already posted, the barfines on Walking Street is between 3500 to 5000. Some of the bars had short time barfines; not sure if the long time barfine guarantees long time. In one bar, the mammasan pointed out which girls will do long time. Mammasans can be a good source of info. But they may only push their girls.

- Dragon bar is a decent bar. Decent selection. Small bar with a lot of girls. But be warned, it's a Korean bar. I was there when they were supposed to open at 6 pm. The placed was already packed with Koreans. The Koreans come early and pick the best ones. Barfine is 4000 with a mandatory 350 ladydrink. The girls wear dresses. Most of the girls who wear dresses in any of the bars are moms.

- As previously posted, High Society is closed. The 2 after hour dance clubs (next to Envy) were packed on the weekend. No cover.

Sammon
11-04-22, 12:09
Paying barfine +tips comes to almost $100 US. Insane!

There is no guarantee of good sex multiple times or LT. Besides her pussy might stink like hog heaven. There are girls available online in Angeles City who I have chatted. Some are very pretty and happy with $2500 LT. You can go to bars and have a drink and look. Problem is once you see a pretty girl little brain takes over and you spend lot of money and regret next day. Angeles used to be cheap all inclusive, LT guaranteed and simple obedient country girls.

Now it has become Vegas Expensive and Vegas head in the clouds atmosphere.

Dg8787
11-04-22, 14:04
Paying barfine +tips comes to almost $100 US. Insane!

There is no guarantee of good sex multiple times or LT. Besides her pussy might stink like hog heaven. There are girls available online in Angeles City who I have chatted. Some are very pretty and happy with $2500 LT. You can go to bars and have a drink and look. Problem is once you see a pretty girl little brain takes over and you spend lot of money and regret next day. Angeles used to be cheap all inclusive, LT guaranteed and simple obedient country girls.

Now it has become Vegas Expensive and Vegas head in the clouds atmosphere.You ought to give us a commentary on the price of gasoline or the price of real estate or even a loaf of bread. There lies insanity. Shit. The price of a new car with the dealer add on "Market Adjustment"!

I doubt if it even comes close to 25% the cost of Vegas.

As I said before, The past is the past. No one works for yesterday's wages.

We all have my choices to make.

Engine Driver
11-04-22, 21:37
Paying barfine +tips comes to almost $100 US. Insane!

There is no guarantee of good sex multiple times or LT. Besides her pussy might stink like hog heaven. There are girls available online in Angeles City who I have chatted. Some are very pretty and happy with $2500 LT. You can go to bars and have a drink and look. Problem is once you see a pretty girl little brain takes over and you spend lot of money and regret next day. Angeles used to be cheap all inclusive, LT guaranteed and simple obedient country girls.

Now it has become Vegas Expensive and Vegas head in the clouds atmosphere.When my grandad was a kid, he said a loaf of bread was 19 cents. Now it's $6. Insanity!

Seems like you're one of those old white guys that travels the world exploiting and fucking young, impoverished, uneducated girls for $20 all night, multiple shots on goal, and then complaining that it's still too expensive and you got ripped off. That's one level higher on the social ladder than rock spider.

All night with a hooker in London, Sydney, Paris or LA would be around $2,000+. So you really think $100 in AC is insane? It's inflation, not insanity. You can watch Trike Patrol from your basement for free, but then you need to still pay for internet.

Goferring
11-04-22, 23:46
As I said before, The past is the past. No one works for yesterday's wages.

We all have my choices to make.Predictions of the death of AC have been made for decades. Guess what, some guys still go there and have a blast while others still go there and complain about prices, looks and attitudes.

Sailor Jack seems to be having a good time and others can judge if it's worth the extra $50 he may be paying on top of yesterday's prices.

If it's not, then there are many pricing and sourcing options throughout the PI. Everyone can spend their money where it suits them.

Do I prefer the old AC? Sure. Am I about to go on a hunger strike until the good 'ol days return? Doubt it.

Enjoy. G.

FuriousGeorge
11-04-22, 23:51
I have to agree, and by the way, it's about 2% of Vegas. Try getting into a club in Vegas, getting a table and bottle service and then you *might* get a chance at landing a civilian. At this point you are down about 5 k usd. The greatest trick Vegas ever pulled was to convince guys they if they go to Vegas they are going to get laid. I used to live there. They prey on men. AC on the other hand, you are king. Party and feel up sexy girls for cheap drinks and then take her home for guaranteed bare sex for $100 (or free (ish) if you have some game)? Gad-damn utopia if you ask me.


You ought to give us a commentary on the price of gasoline or the price of real estate or even a loaf of bread. There lies insanity. Shit. The price of a new car with the dealer add on "Market Adjustment"!

I doubt if it even comes close to 25% the cost of Vegas.

As I said before, The past is the past. No one works for yesterday's wages.

We all have my choices to make.

NapaSlapper
11-05-22, 02:01
I have to agree, and by the way, it's about 2% of Vegas. Try getting into a club in Vegas, getting a table and bottle service and then you *might* get a chance at landing a civilian. At this point you are down about 5 k usd. The greatest trick Vegas ever pulled was to convince guys they if they go to Vegas they are going to get laid. I used to live there. They prey on men. AC on the other hand, you are king. Party and feel up sexy girls for cheap drinks and then take her home for guaranteed bare sex for $100 (or free (ish) if you have some game)? Gad-damn utopia if you ask me.Not sure how one can compare vegas to angeles, one is a 1st world city and the other a 3rd world shit hole.

As far as being king in angeles city then yes if one is young and asian with very deep pockets then maybe possible.

For normal whitey and especially older fatter whitey then the only girls available to such is the older fatter uglier girls the asians don't want, so in truth hardly being a king.

NapaSlapper
11-05-22, 02:38
Predictions of the death of AC have been made for decades. Guess what, some guys still go there and have a blast while others still go there and complain about prices, looks and attitudes.

Sailor Jack seems to be having a good time and others can judge if it's worth the extra $50 he may be paying on top of yesterday's prices.

If it's not, then there are many pricing and sourcing options throughout the PI. Everyone can spend their money where it suits them.

Do I prefer the old AC? Sure. Am I about to go on a hunger strike until the good 'ol days return? Doubt it.

Enjoy. G.The difference between the guys that rave about angeles and the guys that complain is that one set flies in from loveless countries where sex with a 200 kg whale is impossible and are therefore somewhat desperate for some pussy so yes angeles might be fun to the more desperate, but to those that fly in from less loveless countries expecting to have sex with attractive, younger good looking girls then they obviously would complain because these type of girls just do not exist in large numbers and the very few girls that have the youth, body and face either are cherrie girls, drinks only girls or asian only girls.

So in truth those predicting the demise of angeles city are probably correct for average whitey, with the high prices of air fare, increased hotel costs, greatly increased girl costs playing a larg part in why angeles remains very very quiet for visiting white guys, yes some bars have a few customers but lets be honest those customers are 99% high spending asians that are in town for a very short visits and mainly in town on business or golfing trips with a bit of girlie fun thrown in.

Angeles is what it is and each can make their own mind up whether to visit but my advise would be to have a good time then pack plenty of money and greatly lower ones expectations when it comes to girls unless one is young, asian and willing to spend large.

Sailor Jack
11-05-22, 02:39
The first time Sailor Jack came to Angeles City SJ hated AC. SJ really haaaaaated AC. The filth. The beggars. Ladyboys. The over-the-top goofy bars and barfines. And cherry girls? WTF are virgins doing in a brothel anyway? Sailor Jack could go on. And on. And on. Sailor Jack decided that he hated AC. Sailor Jack decided he would have no more to do with Angeles Fucking City.

Sailor Jack went off to explore other parts of the Filthypines. So Sailor Jack is in a bar in Panglao Beach, Bohol, drinking a Red Horse and minding his own business like always. Sailor Jack meets veteran super monger Berry. Now Berry would become Sailor Jack's original monger sensei for southeast Asia. Sailor Jack has just launched into an alcohol infused 'I hate AC' tirade to brother Berry. Sailor Jack will now paraphrase brother Berry's response for your consideration.

"My friend, perhaps you need to reconsider all that Angeles City hate. I acknowledge all the negatives about Angeles City. Oh, and I could give you many, many more! You see, I have lived in AC for years now. I have traveled the world and I can live anywhere that I please. And I choose to live in Angeles City. Perhaps the problem is not Angeles City. Perhaps the problem is you. " Sailor Jack was steamed at Berry's suggestion that SJ could actually be the source of the problem. But something about brother Berry's steely gaze made Sailor Jack think that Berry may indeed be correct. Sailor Jack would give Angeles Fucking City another try. And this time with a better attitude.

Brother Berry helped guide Sailor Jack through some of the finer points of AC mongering.

"Do not curse the wind. Adjust your sails. ".

Sailor Jack says;.

1-5 days in AC; you will most likely hate AC.

2+ weeks in AC; you will begin to become vaguely aware of some undercurrents affecting your vessels attitude.

6+ months in AC; you will find yourself swirling ever faster around the drain. And with a goofy smile on your face.

So if you are walking along Fields Avenue and you do not watch your step, then you may well step in dogshit. With a little practice, you can learn to avoid the many pitfalls of AC. And in this shithole you can indeed find a rose. In fact, you can find many roses.

As for Sailor Jack, decades ago SJ got his tongue stuck in Filipina pookie and SJ just cannot seem to get it out. Do not send a rescue party. Sailor Jack can manage just fine, fuck you very much.

GentileBear
11-05-22, 02:59
No one has mentioned the Horrid Food options in Angeles City. Never had good bread in Angeles City. Katsup and Gooey Soy Sauce and Nasty Slimey french fries. Thailand and Indonesia Kick Philippines Ass regarding food taste and options.

Dg8787
11-05-22, 03:08
No one has mentioned the Horrid Food options in Angeles City. Never had good bread in Angeles City. Katsup and Gooey Soy Sauce and Nasty Slimey french fries. Thailand and Indonesia Kick Philippines Ass regarding food taste and options.Didn't know peeps came to AC for culinary delights other than dining at the why!

Do you go to;
France for French fries?
Germany for pasta?
Italy for schnitzel?

GIGO post.

Garbage In.

Garbage Out.


This is ISG not International Food Guide.

MiamiSammy
11-05-22, 04:35
No one has mentioned the Horrid Food options in Angeles City. Never had good bread in Angeles City. Katsup and Gooey Soy Sauce and Nasty Slimey french fries. Thailand and Indonesia Kick Philippines Ass regarding food taste and options.Sounds like a personal problem to me. If you can't find good food in the Philippines, maybe you need to try something other than dumpster diving.

Goferring
11-05-22, 06:36
Didn't know peeps came to AC for culinary delights other than dining at the why!

This is ISG not International Food Guide.


Sounds like a personal problem to me. If you can't find good food in the Philippines, maybe you need to try something other than dumpster diving.Agree that this isn't the food channel but it's part of the overall package. I go to Thailand despite higher prices. I go to Indonesia despite the crazy traffic. I go to Vietnam despite the language barrier etc. Equally, I go to PI despite the food.

In the Philippines one can look for good food but it's a rarity. In the other monger destinations it's everywhere and a poor meal is the exception.

All places have their good and bad points. PI certainly has enough good ones to keep drawing us back.

Enjoy. G.

WestCoast1
11-05-22, 07:07
As for Sailor Jack, decades ago SJ got his tongue stuck in Filipina pookie and SJ just cannot seem to get it out. Do not send a rescue party. Sailor Jack can manage just fine, fuck you very much.Throwback. Wondering where I've seen those floral bedspreads before. Wondering. . .

Sailor Jack
11-05-22, 08:54
Today Sailor Jack's afternoon blowjob girl vomited mid mouth fuck.

There is Sailor Jack with a firm grasp on her hair and SJ's belaying pin tickling her tonsils when the skull fuckee tosses her pancit. Sailor Jack is not talking a little spit up here. SJ means a full unsavory upchuck.

It is enough to put one off of blowjobs.

Almost.

Photos; unrelated SJ Archive.

Goferring
11-05-22, 09:11
Today Sailor Jack's afternoon blowjob girl vomited mid mouth fuck.

There is Sailor Jack with a firm grasp on her hair and SJ's belaying pin tickling her tonsils when the skull fuckee tosses her pancit. Sailor Jack is not talking a little spit up here. SJ means a full unsavory upchuck.

It is enough to put one off of blowjobs.

Almost.

Photos; unrelated SJ Archive.Can I suggest JS try Cebu as a reprovisioning port. I had one particular trip there where all crew (bar one very startled young lass) who were very adept at full on skull fucking. No sea sickness was experienced by anyone.

I have no idea why it was the skill de jour but it certainly kept me awake on many night watches.

Very pert photos as usual. However, why do girls mess with the white face powder? Don't they know they are called LBFMs for a reason? Who wants to skull fuck Casper?

Sorry if I have turned into an overly critical, whinging old prick recently. It might be time to escape RWML for a while. 😜.

Enjoy. G.

WestCoast1
11-05-22, 10:18
However, why do girls mess with the white face powder? Don't they know they are called LBFMs for a reason? Who wants to skull fuck Casper?White face was more bad when I used to visit Jakarta. Ick. A different problem in America, you get cancelled for doing black face.


Sorry if I have turned into an overly critical, whinging old prick recently. Ahem. That would be *my* job around here.


It might be time to escape RWML for a while. 😜.Not sure why you'd want to do that.

SJ, hope that pancit re-birth didn't "soften" things for you.

Pute Nut
11-05-22, 10:52
There is no guarantee of good sex multiple times or LT. Besides her pussy might stink like hog heaven. There are girls available online in Angeles City who I have chatted. Some are very pretty and happy with $2500 LT. You can go to bars and have a drink and look. Problem is once you see a pretty girl little brain takes over and you spend lot of money and regret next day. Angeles used to be cheap all inclusive, LT guaranteed and simple obedient country girls.Exactly. The WS fiat trash cash prices have risen much faster than other goods in PH, hence it's a price increase in real terms we are dealing with. But there's something more, it's an attitude issue, from both the bargirls and the barowners. AC used to be a cheap and cheerful operation. Now it's turned much more into a money grab. Case in point, the girls' cut used to be at least 50% of a BF, sometimes more. Now some bars keep 2150 or more out of a 4 K barfine, so they have also increased their margins. Lots of the smaller operators are gone, more Koreans have entered.

As you said freelancers can easily be had. I do pay my regulars 1500-2000 LT down to 1 K for ST, no issues whatsoever. I don't see the upside in overpaying.

Glass half full observation: hotel prices in AC have risen quite slowly.

DzikaBomba
11-05-22, 10:53
No one has mentioned the Horrid Food options in Angeles City. Never had good bread in Angeles City. Katsup and Gooey Soy Sauce and Nasty Slimey french fries. Thailand and Indonesia Kick Philippines Ass regarding food taste and options.In my opinion the Angels Bakery has acceptable bread.

The german owner is trying to make good one.

Its not good like at home, but it is ok.

Goferring
11-05-22, 10:56
White face was more bad when I used to visit Jakarta. Ick....True. Jack's girl seems to be a whitening newbie, relying merely on baby powder. The industrial strength version favoured by Indonesian girls and grandmas alike is actually evaporated water from washing rice prior to cooking. Tumeric may be added to give a yellow colour and additional mystic medicinal powers.

Of course, it's main intent in both countries is to cover and prevent brown looking or tanned skin that is associated with poor field workers.

Now back to our regular programming. . .

Dg8787
11-05-22, 12:36
I have to agree, and by the way, it's about 2% of Vegas. Try getting into a club in Vegas, getting a table and bottle service and then you *might* get a chance at landing a civilian. At this point you are down about 5 k usd. The greatest trick Vegas ever pulled was to convince guys they if they go to Vegas they are going to get laid. I used to live there. They prey on men. AC on the other hand, you are king. Party and feel up sexy girls for cheap drinks and then take her home for guaranteed bare sex for $100 (or free (ish) if you have some game)? Gad-damn utopia if you ask me.As my father used to tell me all the time, "you got to make more per hour or work more hours to pay for things you want!”.

AsianPursuits
11-05-22, 20:44
In the Philippines one can look for good food but it's a rarity. In the other monger destinations it's everywhere and a poor meal is the exception.
The Piccolo Padre located in Prime Asia Hotel used to be my go to place in AC. It was closed on my last visit earlier this year. TipAdvisor reviews imply it is open again.

Old And Ugly
11-05-22, 21:44
I got to the conclusion that the ST that's being practiced a lot lately has to do with the wealth of the BGs that seems to be slightly higher lately.

In the past most of them were living in dorms, or rented apartments shared by a lot of girls, with almost nonexistent privacy, some were sleeping on the floor on a blanket, etc. Therefore it was always preferable to stay until morning in a nice clean bed with no roaches or rats roaming around.

After corona, most BGs seem to have their own place, or shared with only another friend, and with that comes, privacy, better living and sleeping conditions, and unfortunately no desire to stay longer then necessary in someone else's bed.

That's my take on it.

NeilGeorge
11-05-22, 23:53
I have to agree, and by the way, it's about 2% of Vegas. Try getting into a club in Vegas, getting a table and bottle service and then you *might* get a chance at landing a civilian. At this point you are down about 5 k usd. The greatest trick Vegas ever pulled was to convince guys they if they go to Vegas they are going to get laid. I used to live there. They prey on men. AC on the other hand, you are king. I went to a show at the Las Vegas Hilton and had to walk thru the casino to get in the show. 2 good looking prostitutes came up to me. Their first question was "Where are you staying?" And I told them the truth, the Motel 6. You should have seen them turn and walk away pretty fast! They thought I had no money for them!

Goferring
11-06-22, 01:18
I went to a show at the Las Vegas Hilton and had to walk thru the casino to get in the show. 2 good looking prostitutes came up to me. Their first question was "Where are you staying?" And I told them the truth, the Motel 6. You should have seen them turn and walk away pretty fast! They thought I had no money for them!It's the same in Bali, Phuket etc where the girls prey on gullible tourists. Reply to their questions in the local language and poof they are gone. ☺.

I actually had one girl apologise for interrupting me adding that she thought I was a tourist.

Enjoy. G.

Old And Ugly
11-06-22, 01:38
Did anybody tried the modern suites hotel on a. Santos Road. ?

Seems convenient for a longer stay at $15/ night compared with the hotels closer to fields ave.

Something wrong with the area or the hotels around there?

Dg8787
11-06-22, 01:39
I got to the conclusion that the ST that's being practiced a lot lately has to do with the wealth of the BGs that seems to be slightly higher lately.

In the past most of them were living in dorms, or rented apartments shared by a lot of girls, with almost nonexistent privacy, some were sleeping on the floor on a blanket, etc. Therefore it was always preferable to stay until morning in a nice clean bed with no roaches or rats roaming around.

After corona, most BGs seem to have their own place, or shared with only another friend, and with that comes, privacy, better living and sleeping conditions, and unfortunately no desire to stay longer then necessary in someone else's bed.

That's my take on it.Have you seen some of these guys? Old and ugly. ST is their preference. LOL.

Sailor Jack
11-06-22, 05:44
"SJ, hope that pancit re-birth didn't "soften" things for you. ".

Dearest WestCoast1;.

Thank you kindly for your concern for Sailor Jack's tiller fulfillment. Sailor Jack can assure you that SJ sailed on through these turbulent waters and reached a satisfying, climatic ending.

The exact details, sounds, and smells of this skullfuck / vomit are beneath the dignity of these August pages and are best left to the reader's imagination.

Very Truly Yours;.

Sailor Jack.

P.S.; SJ must report that the odor has lingered.

Images; L10 will be covered in a future post. That second image was taken immediately upon L10 catching a mouth full of SJ spunk.

AsianPursuits
11-06-22, 10:33
After corona, most BGs seem to have their own place,.Paid for by some love sick homeboy that will never visit to collect on those monthly remittances.

Ghost D
11-07-22, 11:29
Recently I had the pleasure of spending a few days in Angeles, which was a great to be out of Manila for a while.

Over the course of my 3 days there I had overnight company with 3 different ladies, the first was from Monsoon, nice lady, great attuite and performance, barfine was 3. 5 K peso I think, gave her a 1 K tip the following day as she stayed until after lunch time and made sure I was well serviced.

Second night I took a shine to one of the dancers in Avalon, she was super cute and I really liked her personality, here the bar fine was 5 K peso which I am guessing was a special rate because she was part of the dance troop, would be interested to hear what others have to say on special rates for dancers.

Was she worth it? Oh yea, she had a dancers body, super fit (and horny) and wore me out after the 3rd pop late the following morning, each session lasting a long time (and I am in my 50's), would I repeat, I think so, but I would need to go start going to the gym first so I don't die of a heart attack. I also gave her a tip.

The last night I was in touch with one of the ladies from Lollipop who I did some bar hopping with before taking her back, here there was no bar fine as it was her day off (I had her number from before), so if the lady likes you, this is always an option.

As a side note: the "show" in Avalon has really improved a lot since I started going there, XS is still the #1 spot for a free professional dance show, but great to see more bars are putting more effort in, it can be a bit depressing to go into a bar and you as the sitting customer are more animated with a beer in your hand than the handful of ladies up on the dance stage If anyone has recommendations for decent or sexy shows please do share.

All in all, a great visit, will be back again before the end of the year.

Sailor Jack
11-07-22, 15:54
Recently I had the pleasure of spending a few days in Angeles, which was a great to be out of Manila for a while.

Over the course of my 3 days there I had overnight company with 3 different ladies, the first was from Monsoon, nice lady, great attuite and performance, barfine was 3. 5 K peso I think, gave her a 1 K tip the following day as she stayed until after lunch time and made sure I was well serviced. (1)

Second night I took a shine to one of the dancers in Avalon, she was super cute and I really liked her personality, here the bar fine was 5 K peso which I am guessing was a special rate because she was part of the dance troop, would be interested to hear what others have to say on special rates for dancers.

Was she worth it? Oh yea, she had a dancers body, super fit (and horny) and wore me out after the 3rd pop late the following morning, each session lasting a long time (and I am in my 50's), would I repeat, I think so, but I would need to go start going to the gym first so I don't die of a heart attack. I also gave her a tip. (2)

The last night I was in touch with one of the ladies from Lollipop who I did some bar hopping with before taking her back, here there was no bar fine as it was her day off (I had her number from before), so if the lady likes you, this is always an option. (3)

As a side note: the "show" in Avalon has really improved a lot since I started going there, XS is still the #1 spot for a free professional dance show, but great to see more bars are putting more effort in, it can be a bit depressing to go into a bar and you as the sitting customer are more animated with a beer in your hand than the handful of ladies up on the dance stage If anyone has recommendations for decent or sexy shows please do share. (4)

All in all, a great visit, will be back again before the end of the year.Nice report!

I do not know how this reply thingy works. Apparently it is too complicated for a drunk.

(1) Nicely done. Please provide images for the rest of us.

(2) Again nicely done, although without images for the rest of us, well, you can do better.

"Was she worth it? Oh yea". All questions are thus answered. Oo, 5 K is the rate at these bars, period. Pay the barfine or get in a fucking time machine and go back to 1993. Sailor Jack has a forthcoming post about paying a 5 K barfine, and a very happy ending.

(3) This is Sailor Jack's motis operandi! Wait. Are you the reason my Lollipop girl no showed on me?

(4) Avalon does present a good show.

On rare occasions Sailor Jack will barhop at Avalon with a girl. The girls like these shows as much as the guys. And it is something to do between blowjobs and you don't got to talk to your girl while you are there. (Although I do like if my girl tries to talk during a blowjob.) Atlantis and XS also do good shows. To a lessor level, also DollHouse.

Images; C44 will be covered in a future post.

Goferring
11-07-22, 18:00
Nice report!

Pay the barfine or get in a fucking time machine and go back to 1993. .Pissed myself laughing.




(3) This is Sailor Jack's motis operandi! Wait. Are you the reason my Lollipop girl no showed on me.Jack or Ghost, I'm wondering what the 5 k girls are expecting for a sneak out hookup off the books? 1500 seems doable for a 3 bagger but I'd expect a hot dancer to be double that. Sound about right?

P.S. Jack, did you shrink wrap pink thong girl? Very tidy indeed.

Ghost D
11-08-22, 03:43
Nice report!Cheers, Sharing is caring.


(1) Nicely done. Please provide images for the rest of us.Must try to be less horny / selfish and start taking snaps.


Oo, 5 K is the rate at these bars, period. Pay the barfine or get in a fucking time machine and go back to 1993. Ah OK, love the response, OK so not all the bars have a standard barfine (Monsoon 3. 5 K compared to Avalon at 5 K), that somewhat answers my question as to if the dancer was more than the newer girls who mostly stood around in between the dance shows, does anyone know if it is it like this in XS?


Are you the reason my Lollipop girl no showed on me?Hahaha, I doubt it, but sharing is caring.

Dg8787
11-08-22, 03:47
Last night I BF a spinner. True spinner as she twirl herself around to rcg. Had a great time with her LT.

Tonight I might BF her again and with 1 or 2 of her spinner friend. All in for 3 = 10.5 k or $181.03. Vegas prices back in 1920?

Just reporting in folks. I have no complaints here in AC.

Ghost D
11-08-22, 03:49
Jack or Ghost, I'm wondering what the 5 k girls are expecting for a sneak out hookup off the books? 1500 seems doable for a 3 bagger but I'd expect a hot dancer to be double that. Sound about right?Great question, no idea, typically I would ask them when is their day off and offer to spend time with them there for an agreed rate (always less than barfine and tip though).

One lady I saw last year (she was 19) kept insisting we go to the bar so she could collect the barfine, even though I tried to explain she would have more money in her pocket if we didn't do that, I guess she was worried about keeping her job as it was still pandemic times. Other ladies I have had tend to call in sick or come up with some family excuse for not turning up to work.

Interesting topic, would love to hear from others on this.

Dg8787
11-08-22, 03:52
Great question, no idea, typically I would ask them when is their day off and offer to spend time with them there for an agreed rate (always less than barfine and tip though).

One lady I saw last year (she was 19) kept insisting we go to the bar so she could collect the barfine, even though I tried to explain she would have more money in her pocket if we didn't do that, I guess she was worried about keeping her job as it was still pandemic times. Other ladies I have had tend to call in sick or come up with some family excuse for not turning up to work.

Interesting topic, would love to hear from others on this.I have a couple girls that won't sneak out. Especially to ABC Hotel where they maybe recognize by other girls. They don't want to pay a fine or loose their job for sneaking out.

Goferring
11-08-22, 04:31
I have a couple girls that won't sneak out. Especially to ABC Hotel where they maybe recognize by other girls. They don't want to pay a fine or loose their job for sneaking out.I'd totally agree with this esp for a day or two and when the girl stays in town. For me, it's exceedingly rare for a girl to miss a shift, lie to the mama / bar to spend time with me. The downside for them is just too big (seen by others, fines, loose their job etc). My understanding of the previous posts was just to meet the bargirl during the day or when ever she isn't on shift. That's the pricing I was enquiring about. This I've seen and done many times, typically at about 1/2 price.

Note that I have taken bargirls out of town and for several days outside the barfine system. Typically they just say they are going home. I always tell them that dealing with the bar is their problem but I haven't heard of any fines etc. My XLT rate is typically the ST rate paid every day directly to the girl. Never had a girl complain at this.

Cheers. G.

Sailor Jack
11-08-22, 04:52
Pissed myself laughing.

Jack or Ghost, I'm wondering what the 5 k girls are expecting for a sneak out hookup off the books? 1500 seems doable for a 3 bagger but I'd expect a hot dancer to be double that. Sound about right?

P.S. Jack, did you shrink wrap pink thong girl? Very tidy indeed.Barfines; the bars on Perimeter have barfines starting at 2200 p-2500 p. Quality? Sailor Jack recently reconned the Perimeter bars and a full report will be forthcoming*. Actually, Sailor Jack got too drunk and forgot half of what he learned. The update will be coming after my second Perimeter trip. Maybe.

Sailor Jack lives in a rented condo near Fields Avenue. So other girls seeing my sneak-outs stepping out is not a problem here. Yes, if the girl lives in a stay-in (a dorm like place that is pretty rough, I am told) the girls usually make some excuse to not be there. Especially prized are girls who live close enough (Pampanga, Subic, Manila) to be able to say; "I am going home for the day (s). ".

Dearest Goferring;.

C44 works at one of the big show bars and she is a current SJ Crew member (thus her face is not shown). C44 and Sailor Jack rendezvous at least once per week. C44 really likes Sailor Jack's clean, quiet, modern abode. C44 gets to control the TV remote and watch whatever Philippino shows she wants (between shaggings). I pay C44 3000 p long time. Shrink wrap? C44 is perfectly proportioned and she is a verified 4 feet 4 inches tall. Full report to follow*. Working title; "Sailor Jack Fucks A Hobbit. ".

Image; C44 will be covered in a future post*.

*Hey, I am pretty busy here with my daily appointments! Blimey!

Goferring
11-08-22, 07:15
I pay C44 3000 p long time. Shrink wrap? C44 is perfectly proportioned and she is a verified 4 feet 4 inches tall. 3000 for C44 and her ilk seems very fair indeed. Actually, I should report you for wage theft. 😜.

4'4" is very play sized and would give meaning to the term "spinner". By shrink wrapped, I meant that there isn't an ounce of baby fat on her. There is a lot to be said for young, trim and taught pocket rockets. Very rare to find in these JollieBelly times.

Oh, to be a Resident. I'm not at all jealous. 🔥.

G.

FuriousGeorge
11-08-22, 08:40
A lot of bars have a day when they're closed (Atlantis, Mondays, etc.) . Set up a date with your favorite on these closed days. Great dates, no negotiations.

Got my trip booked today. Mid Dec-Mid Jan, Central Park. Very much looking forward to it.

WestCoast1
11-09-22, 04:52
C44 is perfectly proportioned and she is a verified 4 feet 4 inches tall. Full report to follow*. Working title; "Sailor Jack Fucks A Hobbit. ".Don't think I've yet had one that small. A man can hope.


Oh, to be a Resident. 🔥.Good things here come in small packages.


4'4" is very play sized and would give meaning to the term "spinner". By shrink wrapped, I meant that there isn't an ounce of baby fat on her. There is a lot to be said for young, trim and taught pocket rockets. Very rare to find in these JollieBelly times.Got this one more than a decade ago, early 20's at that time. 4 feet 6 inches. A few years later, about 2015-16, there was a digital readout weight scale in my condo. Her majestic tiny-ness stepped on to it unrequested by me. "Same. Same always". Sweetie what is that? "Always same. My weight never change since school". Yes, but what is your weight today on the scale? "Twenty-seven point two. Always 27". Your weight has not changed in 10 years? "Yes". And your height? "137 since high school".

Tiny. Tye-knee.

Jinks
11-09-22, 05:42
First of all I just say coming to Angeles from the USA Is truly a vacation for me and not just all about the girls, but they do come in handy. I'm sure that some will say that Philippines (Angeles) is not a vacation location, but when you come from a daily grind in the USA Anything is a vacation.

I arrived Wed (2 Nov) and was last here in Jul 2018 then pandemic so I had to wait. Things has changed in my opinion, neither for the good or bad just changed. Change is always constant so no whining about that. The barfines has increased, unless you travel off the beaten path, which I did and loved every minute of it. The quality seems to be a little lacking. I have talked to girls that are well in their late 30's dancing, hardly ever saw that before or noticed. Some spinners and some who need to lose weight like myself. Had to look for the good specimens. LOL.

The girls I barfined were two from the side streets (1500 pesons a piece), both were awesome and one from the walking street bar (4000 pesos), a three holer and was very accomodating and one from wechat (2500 peseos), now she was a freak and a half. Did not have a bad experience from none of them. Vacation and fun is still to be had though sometimes you might be required to pay more. This is my last night so I am looking to get one more in before I leave (7 day vacation. Which is plenty of time for me as I will burn out fast with the drinking and the heat).

The problem I have is that the girls will latch on you if your really nice. This makes me uncomfortable as I have to be an asshole to tell them I'm here for vacation to have fun so please do not get attached. They want to stop by after work or come by during the day when I'm trying to relax. Not sure if this is just happening to me or a normal thing. I'm not a cruel person so it is hard for me to say calm the fuck down, this ain't a relationship.

Will I come back, sure I will. Not sure when, but have found the Dominican Republic during the pandemic and now I'm hooked. They are all about the game which I can play well, so no catching feelings. The cost seems to be on par with the Philippines now. Though the costs is starting to become on the same standards as the USA Which I ask myself why go somewhere where my spending is on par with the country I just came from. Well because I am getting a whole lot more in those places, just have to budget myself. '.

Sorry no pics as I do not want evidence. LOL.

Overall it was a great vacation. Oh by the way the Philippines Airlines tickets are expensive compared other airlines for some reason. I left from LAX and wanted the direct flight so I paid the price for that.

Sailor Jack
11-09-22, 06:04
Don't think I've yet had one that small. A man can hope.

"Always same. My weight never change since school". Yes, but what is your weight today on the scale? "Twenty-seven point two. Always 27". Your weight has not changed in 10 years? "Yes". And your height? "137 since high school".

Tiny. Tye-knee.Dearest WestCoast1; did you mean to say 37.2 kg (82 lbs) instead of 27.2 kg (60 lbs) ? Sailor Jack just wants to fill out his scorecard correctly.

27.2 kg would put her below the legal limit and you should have thrown her back 😉 (not going to happen, now is it? On the other hand, on your flight home you could check her as baggage without any surcharge.

Photo; random SJ Archive photo.

WestCoast1
11-09-22, 08:05
Dearest WestCoast1; did you mean to say 37.2 kg (82 lbs) instead of 27.2 kg (60 lbs) ? Sailor Jack just wants to fill out his scorecard correctly.

27.2 kg would put her below the legal limit and you should have thrown her back 😉 (not going to happen, now is it? On the other hand, on your flight home you could check her as baggage without any surcharge.The numbers are correct. She is 27 kg (60 lbs), and 4' 6". I can not throw her back, as I have been reeling her in for about 11 years, and she enjoys being caught.

Good random SJ archive photo!

WestCoast1
11-09-22, 08:07
Oh by the way the Philippines Airlines tickets are expensive compared other airlines for some reason. I left from LAX and wanted the direct flight so I paid the price for that.Yes, that non-stop from the US west coast to NAIA on PAL is about $300 more expensive than 1-stop flights. You are paying for convenience.

Sammon
11-09-22, 12:17
Yes, that non-stop from the US west coast to NAIA on PAL is about $300 more expensive than 1-stop flights. You are paying for convenience.With phi airlines it should be booked well ahead to get cheaper fares. For my next trip in March I booked on Philippines Airlines to multiple stops including Jakarta and paid only $1200. They have very few initial cheap prices. Otherwise it gets expensive. Cheapest flights are on Eva Airlines. Excellent service and decent timings. Philippines airlines usually arrives very early in the morning.

On another note I need a short time hotel in Manila from around 6 am to 8 pm in March. What will be the best approach? Preferably around Ermita. Will the regular hotels do that if I go directly and ask?

Thanks for the info.

WestCoast1
11-09-22, 18:04
On another note I need a short time hotel in Manila from around 6 am to 8 pm in March. What will be the best approach? Preferably around Ermita. Will the regular hotels do that if I go directly and ask?There are two Sogo's in Malate. See pic / map. They are on Mabini (Sogo. Malate) and one block over, on Madre Ignacia St (Sogo. Quirino), very near Quirino Street. Both are ST places. You can call and reserve in advance, and give them your specific inbound / outbound time, so they can have the room waiting for you upon arrival. Not sure what documents you will need (if any) upon check-in at that time.

FuriousGeorge
11-09-22, 23:49
This is for DG, but others might get a kick out of it (I still can't believe I didn't get a Report of Distinction: D) My first trip 5 years ago when I was green and wide-eyed. It's fun to re-live now that I'm a seasoned vet. It does sound a little douchey after re-reading but I was overwhelmed so forgive me. :)

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=2079253&viewfull=1#post2079253.

(scroll down a couple of posts).

El Ted
11-10-22, 00:20
There are two Sogo's in Malate. See pic / map. They are on Mabini (Sogo. Malate) and one block over, on Madre Ignacia St (Sogo. Quirino), very near Quirino Street. Both are ST places. You can call and reserve in advance, and give them your specific inbound / outbound time, so they can have the room waiting for you upon arrival. Not sure what documents you will need (if any) upon check-in at that time.I used Sogo for a few hours the other day, and the only papers I was asked for at check-in are called pesos.

WestCoast1
11-10-22, 00:37
This is for DG, but others might get a kick out of it (I still can't believe I didn't get a Report of Distinction: D) My first trip 5 years ago when I was green and wide-eyed. It's fun to re-live now that I'm a seasoned vet. It does sound a little douchey after re-reading but I was overwhelmed so forgive me. :)

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=2079253&viewfull=1#post2079253.

(scroll down a couple of posts).Try this one, so you don't need to scroll:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=2079253&viewfull=1#post2079253

D Cups
11-10-22, 23:55
With phi airlines it should be booked well ahead to get cheaper fares. For my next trip in March I booked on Philippines Airlines to multiple stops including Jakarta and paid only $1200. They have very few initial cheap prices. Otherwise it gets expensive. Cheapest flights are on Eva Airlines. Excellent service and decent timings. Philippines airlines usually arrives very early in the morning.

On another note I need a short time hotel in Manila from around 6 am to 8 pm in March. What will be the best approach? Preferably around Ermita. Will the regular hotels do that if I go directly and ask?

Thanks for the info.Hi Sam. I recently stayed at City Garden Suites in Ermita for something like $32. It's ok. Book for the night before and pay 50% more to extend until 8 pm. At least that is what they did for me. Walking distance to LA Cafe. Cheers.

WestCoast1
11-11-22, 03:14
Hi Sam. I recently stayed at City Garden Suites in Ermita for something like $32. It's ok. Book for the night before and pay 50% more to extend until 8 pm. At least that is what they did for me. Walking distance to LA Cafe. Cheers.GCS would be a good option. On Mabini St. Half a block from Cowboy Grill, 1. 5 blocks to Robinsons, and 3-4 blocks from LAC. Not sure if it still exists, but CGS used to have a nice breakfast buffet spread.

You would be reserving for 2 nights (the first night is the night you arrive at 6 am). Alternately as per DC, call them and ask to reserve for the first night + pay extra for an 8-hour extension.

Sammon
11-11-22, 04:52
Hi Sam. I recently stayed at City Garden Suites in Ermita for something like $32. It's ok. Book for the night before and pay 50% more to extend until 8 pm. At least that is what they did for me. Walking distance to LA Cafe. Cheers.I think I will personally go few hotels in the morning and ask. I will just have a small hand bag anyway. Thanks for the info.

Sammon
11-11-22, 16:03
GCS would be a good option. On Mabini St. Half a block from Cowboy Grill, 1. 5 blocks to Robinsons, and 3-4 blocks from LAC. Not sure if it still exists, but CGS used to have a nice breakfast buffet spread.

You would be reserving for 2 nights (the first night is the night you arrive at 6 am). Alternately as per DC, call them and ask to reserve for the first night + pay extra for an 8-hour extension.I did go to their website and there was a chat option. Started asking the price for 6 Am to 6 Pm. Whoever the person was checked with the manager and came back and replied they do not do hourly basis. Yes it maybe true nook and extend maybe an option but I do not trust knuckleheads in Philippines who may throw me out at 12 noon. My flight lands early morning around 4 am. My plan is go personally go and walk around Ermita, mabini (I know the area very well) and talk to the manager on duty and make a deal. Need a pretty decent hotel even if it costs more. I might ask New Coast hotel where I stayed 4 nights last trip. They charge $100 with breakfast but hotel is 5 star. Since it is a casino hotel maybe they are willing to accommodate me. If I am not successful I will go to short term hotels. I would like to avoid them because I like luxury, clean, safe rooms.

As for girls it is not a problem for me. I can get from DIA. Will try to get new ones There are my previous trusted friends who will stay with me whole day. My flight to Jakarta leaves around 9 pm. No need to go to LA cafe unless I hit roadblocks.

Sailor Jack
11-12-22, 06:20
First, Sailor Jack must say; Overpaying is a Sin.

Overpaying creates dissonance in local market pussy prices. Pussy sellers get greedy. Pussy buyers who pay too much on the spot market (weekend millionaires) cause pussy prices to spike at least temporarily. If there are too many weekend millionaires then the whole pussy market gets screwed up (pun intended). This annoys the crap out of us local daily pussy buyers.

Faithful local wingman Gman is offended at the thought of paying an actual barfine, no matter what the price. Gman works the secondary market and pays 1500 p-3000 p for the same bargirl pookie that gets 2500 p-5000 p in the bar. But Gman has built up a reliable client list over time and with no small amount of effort. Additionally, every pussy seller on Gman's client list is a proven performer. Good for Gman.

Sailor Jack likes to find a good bargain as much as the next Monger. But that can be taken too far*. Yes, Sailor Jack has a regular vendor list too. But Sailor Jack likes to prospect for new talent as well. Now this gets us to Sailor Jack paying a 5000 p barfine. Recently Sailor Jack was in one of the big bars on fields with all the show girls drinking a San Mig Pilsen and minding his own business like always. I will cut to the decision point; in the bar C44 was rubbing Sailor Jack's pants parrot vigorously. Decision made.

C44 is 19 years old, from Samar, weighs maybe 36 kilos, and she is a verified 4 feet 4 inches tall. C44's glorious golden brown body is perfectly proportioned but she is indeed a tiny little thing. Her skin is so soft, like fine brown silk. Sailor Jack cannot keep his hands off C44.

Back in Sailor Jack's cabin C44 insists on showering with Sailor Jack. So here are Sailor Jack and C44 in the shower and C44 is washing Sailor Jack thoroughly. This tiny LBFM spends extra time washing Sailor Jack's mess kit causing a throbbing erection. C44 begins sucking Sailor Jack's bowsprit in the shower, which 4'4" C44 can do while standing and bending forward only slightly.

In bed Sailor Jack finds that some positions are impossible with a 4'4" LBFM. C44 is a dutiful cowgirl but regular doggy style is impossible with C44's small frame. Sailor Jack has to bend C44 over the arm of the couch to apply proper doggy style torque to her tiny little ass. C44 is pretty wide-eyed because SJ does not think she had ever been fucked quite so hard. C44's silky brown skin contrasts perfectly with her tiny pink pink pink pink pussy**.

9 am comes and Sailor Jack introduces C44 to Mr MorningWood.

C44 is a current SJ Crew member.

*Having said all that, if SJ sees any of you Swabbies throwing fistfuls of 20 p notes off of the 2nd floor at Atlantis, then know that the Red Horse bottle that breaks against your skull was thrown by Sailor Jack.

**At no point in these festivities did Sailor Jack ever consider that he might have overpaid.

Photos; the faces of current SJ regulars are blurred.

Goferring
11-12-22, 23:46
If there are too many weekend millionaires then the whole pussy market gets screwed up (pun intended). This annoys the crap out of us local daily pussy buyers.It shouldn't do. Weekend millionaires and long term are different markets.




Para 3:. Depends what you want to pay for. I'm always in town for a while so time is on my side. I don't need to pay a premium for access at a given time or before I go back home. It suits me to be a sidedick: let other guys buy them phones, silver service dinners and 5 star holidays; when Daddy has gone home or the rent is due then she can give me a call to come over on my terms. It may take a little time but the day will come.

Cheers. G.Of course, one thing that is often missed when discussing long term stays is access to civilian girls. Bank clerks, sales girls, the girl met while buying a pound of carrots can all be equally, if not more, attractive as pole dancing Crystal. And she will cost a lot less money and aggravation. A lot less. I've written a few times of my pleasant surprise at unwrapping new jeans and T-shirt Pinas to find a bikini model underneath.

It's all very much each to their own. If a guy is spending his money to get what he likes, then it's not my concern.

Enjoy. G.

AsianPursuits
11-13-22, 07:07
Photos; the faces of current SJ regulars are blurred.A quick peruse of SJ's crew goes a long way towards justifying the journey to this far off port.

Seems that the port call to AC is well worth the wargames of airfares, immigration and manila traffic.

I will certainly need to restock when I arrive.

Chocha Monger
11-13-22, 21:37
When my grandad was a kid, he said a loaf of bread was 19 cents. Now it's $6. Insanity!

Seems like you're one of those old white guys that travels the world exploiting and fucking young, impoverished, uneducated girls for $20 all night, multiple shots on goal, and then complaining that it's still too expensive and you got ripped off. That's one level higher on the social ladder than rock spider.

All night with a hooker in London, Sydney, Paris or LA would be around $2,000+. So you really think $100 in AC is insane? It's inflation, not insanity. You can watch Trike Patrol from your basement for free, but then you need to still pay for internet.In the Post-Colonial Era, you are describing at least 90 percent of the monger community. Young handsome corporate executives with generous stock options and severance agreements do not need to venture to global backwaters for copulation at cut-rate prices. There are not many places left in the world where a pensioner with $20 and a vial of Viagra can leave a young lady with a sore pussy after a night of multiple shots delivered on goal. In the Philippines, hooking is considered a low-skill and shameful occupation. Hence, practitioners hail from the lowest rungs of a broken socioeconomic ladder. Some mongers pay $20 while others pay $200,000 and complain on the Raffy Tulfo Show about not getting in enough shots on goal.

Sailor Jack
11-15-22, 13:44
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1946019/pampanga/local-news/lazatin-to-convert-walking-street-to-al-fresco-dining-strip

Sailor Jack has no real read on if this will really happen.

It seems unlikely that the forces that control the bars will agree to this plan.

Photo; SJ Archives

Mr Enternational
11-15-22, 14:57
All night with a hooker in London, Sydney, Paris or LA would be around $2,000+. So you really think $100 in AC is insane?Rent in London, Sydney, Paris, and LA is $2000. Rent in AC is $50. It is insane to travel somewhere and be happy to pay more than something costs on the basis that it costs less than somewhere else.

WestCoast1
11-15-22, 15:14
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1946019/pampanga/local-news/lazatin-to-convert-walking-street-to-al-fresco-dining-strip

Sailor Jack has no real read on if this will really happen.

It seems unlikely that the forces that control the bars will agree to this plan.From the article:

"The CEO was tasked to finish the said rehabilitation by June 2023." Enjoy it while you can, gents.

Obligatory pic. Obligatory caption: "Crawl to me in the morning, love".

Dg8787
11-15-22, 16:20
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1946019/pampanga/local-news/lazatin-to-convert-walking-street-to-al-fresco-dining-strip

Sailor Jack has no real read on if this will really happen.

It seems unlikely that the forces that control the bars will agree to this plan.

Photo; SJ ArchivesI really don't see a demand for all this Al fresco dining to replace Walking Street. Let dining at the why remain!

D Cups
11-15-22, 18:51
In the Post-Colonial Era, you are describing at least 90 percent of the monger community. Young handsome corporate executives with generous stock options and severance agreements do not need to venture to global backwaters for copulation at cut-rate prices. There are not many places left in the world where a pensioner with $20 and a vial of Viagra can leave a young lady with a sore pussy after a night of multiple shots delivered on goal. In the Philippines, hooking is considered a low-skill and shameful occupation. Hence, practitioners hail from the lowest rungs of a broken socioeconomic ladder. Some mongers pay $20 while others pay $200,000 and complain on the Raffy Tulfo Show about not getting in enough shots on goal.Finally got your electricity turned back on?

FuriousGeorge
11-15-22, 21:20
The June 2023 date is just to finish the rehab of the roads and drainage. Which it badly needs.

I can't see this 'red street' doing anything but killing tourism in AC. We'll see if local businesses will put up a fight.


From the article:

"The CEO was tasked to finish the said rehabilitation by June 2023." Enjoy it while you can, gents.

Obligatory pic. Obligatory caption: "Crawl to me in the morning, love".

AsianPursuits
11-15-22, 22:32
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1946019/pampanga/local-news/lazatin-to-convert-walking-street-to-al-fresco-dining-strip

Sailor Jack has no real read on if this will really happen.Good to see finds time to keep SJ his finger on current affairs in addition to bar room affairs. Busy fingers in deed.

In my short AC Walking Street history of 10 years I have seen.

2012 - simple bitumen coverage.

2014 - Upgraded road surface with designs and tiling.

2016 - Upgraded road surfaces starts crumbling due to poor construction (and corrupted payments).

2018 - Deteriorated surface gets covered with bitumen.

2022 - Bitumen deteriorating.

So for the 2023 refurb, P14.5 M less design fees, less kickbacks for all. Not much for actual construction and quality materials.

Where is the money for promoting the new image. Cannot imagine the local traders' co-op funding attracting Jennelyn and her three kids for a free day.

Totally accept the Mayor's concept to change the image and activity but it's going to take more than a new road surface and some drainage.

Sailor Jack
11-16-22, 00:58
Good to see finds time to keep SJ his finger on current affairs in addition to bar room affairs. Busy fingers in deed.

In my short AC Walking Street history of 10 years I have seen.

2012 - simple bitumen coverage.

2014 - Upgraded road surface with designs and tiling.

2016 - Upgraded road surfaces starts crumbling due to poor construction (and corrupted payments).

2018 - Deteriorated surface gets covered with bitumen.

2022 - Bitumen deteriorating.

So for the 2023 refurb, P14.5 M less design fees, less kickbacks for all. Not much for actual construction and quality materials.

Where is the money for promoting the new image. Cannot imagine the local traders' co-op funding attracting Jennelyn and her three kids for a free day.

Totally accept the Mayor's concept to change the image and activity but it's going to take more than a new road surface and some drainage.As SJ mentioned, Sailor Jack has no real read on any of this. You can forget logic and common sense in AC.

Some thoughts;.

1) Sailor Jack did live in AC during a 'major change' to Fields Avenue (2007-2009). There was a big plan to change all of Fields Avenue, updates, renovations, a whole new image and focus. Girlie bars were going away and there would be a new focus. Fields Avenue would become 'Walking Street' like in Pattaya (SJ hopes this makes you laugh as hard now as we laughed then). The outcome? The roads were resurfaced and sidewalks were upgraded (yes, the roads and sidewalks were actually worse than they are now). A section of the street was closed off to traffic and it became 'Walking Steet. ' Oh, and grand signs were put up at both ends of the street. Not much really changed. Not quite Pattaya, now is it?

2) This is a delicate subject. Sailor Jack's understanding is that Fields Avenue bars primary business is money laundering. Legitimate tourist businesses are unlikely to do this better than what now exists.

3) There were once many girlie bars in the Ermita section of Manila near L. A. Café. (this is all prior to Sailor Jack making landfall in the Philippines). Some elected moron decided to 'clean up' the area and the girlie bars were indeed run out of there. So it can happen. (If some one knows this tale better than Sailor Jack, then please correct SJ).

Sailor Jack just does not know. Sometimes the wind changes and you got to adjust your sails.

Photo; SJ archives.

Sailor Jack
11-16-22, 01:14
Report to follow.

Photo; SJ Archives.

Engine Driver
11-16-22, 08:28
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1946019/pampanga/local-news/lazatin-to-convert-walking-street-to-al-fresco-dining-strip

Sailor Jack has no real read on if this will really happen.

It seems unlikely that the forces that control the bars will agree to this plan.

Photo; SJ ArchivesThese types of press announcements for fake infrastructure projects. From alfresco dining strips to new airports to wind farms are very common in corrupt shit hole countries. They are announced so that they can get free project development money from the central governments, foreign donors and NGOs. The money then quickly vanishes into various overseas bank accounts belonging to the usual suspects. India does this type of fake infrastructure announcement on a grand scale. Foreign engineering consulting firms and construction companies will pay bribes to position themselves for projects that will never get off the ground. After 5 years of toil, the project will get cancelled as the local authorities never had any intention of building the infrastructure in the first place.

In the case of Walking Street, the Korean mafia dons will need to bless any new development. I don't think that's going to happen.

Sailor Jack
11-16-22, 16:51
Good to see finds time to keep SJ his finger on current affairs in addition to bar room affairs. Busy fingers in deed.

In my short AC Walking Street history..A few years back Sailor Jack was riding his bicycle out around the Clarke area where the exhaust fumes are not so bad. Sailor Jack stopped by a field of strange looking plants. The field was about the size of a football pitch. The plants were being cared for but the plants were clearly not doing so well in the Philippines climate. There was an elegant sign that read something like; "Philippines / XXXXXX XXXXXX XX XXXXXXX Joint Jatropha International Global Warming Blah Blah Blah Project".

Sailor Jack thought about it for a moment. Then Sailor Jack got it! This sorry ass field of wilted Jatropha was the result of millions of dollars some other country's (guess who!) money poured down the endless sewer drain of Philippines corruption.

A paraphrased quote from Brother Berry; "Sometimes I think I am being too cynical. But here a high degree of cynicism is necessary."

Dearest AsianPursuits;.

Rest assured that SJ has his fingers on the local puwit, uh.....pulse.

Chocha Monger
11-16-22, 18:54
Rent in London, Sydney, Paris, and LA is $2000. Rent in AC is $50. It is insane to travel somewhere and be happy to pay more than something costs on the basis that it costs less than somewhere else.If a monger is paying more than what the local trike drivers pay for a root, he is paying above fair market value and the LBFMs are scamming him.

Goferring
11-16-22, 21:15
They are announced so that they can get free project development money from the central governments, foreign donors and NGOs.The Me Too brigade must be frothing at the mouth at the opportunity to fund the rescue of peasant girls enslaved to a life of being molested and compelled to serve western men's perverted fetishes.

Just imagine all the NGO training schools that can be set up to upskill Mary from sucking dick to cleaning CRs in a Michelin starred restaurant.

Goferring
11-16-22, 21:17
Report to follow.

Photo; SJ Archives.Did she fix your TV while she was there?

😋.

AsianPursuits
11-16-22, 21:35
A few years back Sailor Jack was riding his bicycle out around the Clarke area /snip/
Sailor Jack thought about it for a moment. Then Sailor Jack got it! This sorry ass field of wilted Jatropha was the result of millions of dollars some other country's (guess who!) money poured down the endless sewer drain of Philippines corruption.
.My preferred Clark sign is the one proudly announcing that Clark is no Plastic Free, can still read abou tit here https://www.philstar.com/nation/2016/01/18/1543930/plastic-ban-enforced-clark-freeport as well as buy all your takeaway plastics at Clark shops.

Pute Nut
11-17-22, 01:33
Did she fix your TV while she was there?

😋.She probably brought a couple of useful tubes, actually prefer those to the TVs with a more solid state.

Goferring
11-17-22, 06:48
If a monger is paying more than what the local trike drivers pay for a root, he is paying above fair market value and the LBFMs are scamming him.I wish hookers were buying me smokes and Red Horse. That's where our money is going. I don't know any girls getting paid by local BF's. It's the other way around.

Key Master
11-17-22, 18:45
Second night I took a shine to one of the dancers in Avalon, she was super cute and I really liked her personality, here the bar fine was 5 K peso which I am guessing was a special rate because she was part of the dance troop, would be interested to hear what others have to say on special rates for dancers.
I'm pretty sure it's not by dance group but woman specific.

Dg8787
11-17-22, 18:52
When my grandad was a kid, he said a loaf of bread was 19 cents. Now it's $6. Insanity!

Seems like you're one of those old white guys that travels the world exploiting and fucking young, impoverished, uneducated girls for $20 all night, multiple shots on goal, and then complaining that it's still too expensive and you got ripped off. That's one level higher on the social ladder than rock spider.

All night with a hooker in London, Sydney, Paris or LA would be around $2,000+. So you really think $100 in AC is insane? It's inflation, not insanity. You can watch Trike Patrol from your basement for free, but then you need to still pay for internet.Paying $100 is insane if you are making $10.00 per hour. Then again you couldn't afford a plane ticket to AC.

Dg8787
11-17-22, 18:55
I'm pretty sure it's not by dance group but woman specific.Immaterial if she is in special "spotlight" pricing group or not. Only thing material was she worth it or not?

Dg8787
11-17-22, 19:06
I wish hookers were buying me smokes and Red Horse. That's where our money is going. I don't know any girls getting paid by local BF's. It's the other way around.It is very easy for your wish to come true. I have a trike license I can sell you?

WestCoast1
11-19-22, 03:26
Report to follow.

Photo; SJ Archives.No report. Just some archive.

Golfinho
11-19-22, 14:55
When my grandad was a kid, he said a loaf of bread was 19 cents. Now it's $6. Insanity!
C .How much did your granddad say an I-phone cost when he was a kid?

Dg8787
11-19-22, 16:38
How much did your granddad say an I-phone cost when he was a kid?It wasn't much. 2 used orange juice cans and some string.

Engine Driver
11-19-22, 21:44
How much did your granddad say an I-phone cost when he was a kid?In deepest, darkest Africa, jungle drums and smoke signals were free.

Sailor Jack
11-20-22, 10:28
So loyal wingman BigA and Sailor Jack are walking back from lunch at Orchid Inn. On the way back we pass by the chapel on the corner on Raymond / Rosario Street, behind the old Orchid Inn.

Sailor Jack is minding his own business like always.

Next to the chapel is another establishment. Sailor Jack is not quite sure what it is, but there are always very friendly women out front chatting with passersby. Maybe it is a social club? Perhaps a knitting club?

Anyway, a woman is heard yelling from inside the knitting club;.

"Sailor Jack!

Sailor Jack!

Sailor Jack!

Sailor Jack's blood runs cold. Now a little brown chunky monkey runs out of the knitting club, runs up to Sailor Jack, throws her pudgy arms around Sailor Jack, and gives Sailor Jack a big sweaty kiss.

BigA observes all this with stunned disbelief. Sailor Jack explains to BigA that this is clearly a case of mistaken identity. BigA will have none of that. BigA deducts (wrongly, of course) that this ChubScout knows Sailor Jack somehow. BigA goes further to posit that Sailor Jack has had sexual relations with aforementioned FatFilipina!

Sailor Jack pleads innocence while trying to pry the porcine princess's sweaty paws off his neck. BigA does not say a word but just shakes his head like he is trying to get some image out of his brain.

Next day, BigA sees fit to bring up the topic in front of a panel of fellow mongers at Margarita Station. Sailor Jack pleads his case of mistaken identity. Zero mongers buy it.

Sailor Jack publicly confesses to fucking a fat girl. Actually, it was just a blowjob, but the mongers will not buy that either, so Sailor Jack cops to the whole offense. Sailor Jack is subjected to public ridicule and abuse by his monger peers, all of whom refuse to admit ever fucking a fat girl themselves, the fucking liars. Sailor Jack feels great shame.

Sailor Jack's files an appeal for lack of physical evidence (Porky swallowed it) but SJ's appeal is denied.

So it appears that if a fat chick runs out of a working girl house screaming your name – well there is just no defense for that.

Fucking a fat girl is like riding a motor scooter – sure it is fun – but do not let your friends catch you doing it.

None of these photos are of the plus-size Pilippina in question. These photos are from SJ's archives.

*Actually, that is not true. Sailor Jack's ability to feel shame was completely removed decades ago while in Tijuana attending the donkey show.

Dg8787
11-20-22, 18:39
So loyal wingman BigA and Sailor Jack are walking back from lunch at Orchid Inn. On the way back we pass by the chapel on the corner on Raymond / Rosario Street, behind the old Orchid Inn.

Sailor Jack is minding his own business like always.

Next to the chapel is another establishment. Sailor Jack is not quite sure what it is, but there are always very friendly women out front chatting with passersby. Maybe it is a social club? Perhaps a knitting club?

Anyway, a woman is heard yelling from inside the knitting club;.

"Sailor Jack!

Sailor Jack!

Sailor Jack!

Sailor Jack's blood runs cold. Now a little brown chunky monkey runs out of the knitting club, runs up to Sailor Jack, throws her pudgy arms around Sailor Jack, and gives Sailor Jack a big sweaty kiss.

BigA observes all this with stunned disbelief. Sailor Jack explains to BigA that this is clearly a case of mistaken identity. BigA will have none of that. BigA deducts (wrongly, of course) that this ChubScout knows Sailor Jack somehow. BigA goes further to posit that Sailor Jack has had sexual relations with aforementioned FatFilipina!

Sailor Jack pleads innocence while trying to pry the porcine princess's sweaty paws off his neck. BigA does not say a word but just shakes his head like he is trying to get some image out of his brain.

Next day, BigA sees fit to bring up the topic in front of a panel of fellow mongers at Margarita Station. Sailor Jack pleads his case of mistaken identity. Zero mongers buy it.

Sailor Jack publicly confesses to fucking a fat girl. Actually, it was just a blowjob, but the mongers will not buy that either, so Sailor Jack cops to the whole offense. Sailor Jack is subjected to public ridicule and abuse by his monger peers, all of whom refuse to admit ever fucking a fat girl themselves, the fucking liars. Sailor Jack feels great shame*.

Sailor Jack's files an appeal for lack of physical evidence (Porky swallowed it) but SJ's appeal is denied.

So it appears that if a fat chick runs out of a working girl house screaming your name well there is just no defense for that.

Fucking a fat girl is like riding a motor scooter sure it is fun but do not let your friends catch you doing it.

None of these photos are of the plus-size Pilippina in question. These photos are from SJ's archives.

*Actually, that is not true. Sailor Jack's ability to feel shame was completely removed decades ago while in Tijuana attending the donkey show.BFD. I have fucked some chubbies and they have turned out to be some good fucks. Chubby pussy matters too. Personally I don't give a shit about what others think. In my younger years I missed out on some good fucks by wondering what my buddies might think. Not now. If she gives me wood at the time then I am entering!

Goferring
11-20-22, 21:48
BFD. I have fucked some chubbies and they have turned out to be some good fucks. Chubby pussy matters too...Fatties and chicks with dicks: I've lost count of the number of guys that have "accidentally" fucked them 20 times a trip but would never admit to enjoying it.

AggieDad1
11-20-22, 22:29
Fatties and chicks with dicks: I've lost count of the number of guys that have "accidentally" fucked them 20 times a trip but would never admit to enjoying it.Probably the same guys who do multiple "pops" with each girl and does multiple girls in a day. 5555.

Golfinho
11-22-22, 15:12
In deepest, darkest Africa, jungle drums and smoke signals were free.They still are.

Ploughman
11-23-22, 11:26
The problem I have is that the girls will latch on you if your really nice. This makes me uncomfortable as I have to be an asshole to tell them I'm here for vacation to have fun so please do not get attached. They want to stop by after work or come by during the day when I'm trying to relax. Not sure if this is just happening to me or a normal thing. I'm not a cruel person so it is hard for me to say calm the fuck down, this ain't a relationship. I went to the Philippines about 20 or so times from 1994-2017 and am really wanting to get back there again (went to Thailand some 60 times since 1992 with a 2-year forced break because of pandemic but resumption in March and October this year. Have some business in Thailand).

I miss the long-times and GFEs, though you identify a pitfall there that I've run into. If I get a really good performer with a good GFE there's a huge urge to keep taking her because it just makes sense vs. Finding a new one that probabilities say won't be as good. I've never said anything to lead them on but nonetheless have gotten the jealous-girlfriend bit when I didn't know we were in a relationship! I took a provincial girl with me to Makati from Angeles for a daytrip and she was kinda wowed but fumed and gave me the silent treatment after she thought a clerk at a cybercafe was flirting with me. But the big one was when a girl I'd taken for a third time out of LA Cafe in Manila found out I'd taken another girl from there and suddenly just blew up my cellphone with calls and texts at 10 am When I was in a taxi. It was embarrassing. In thinking back I realized she'd shown up at the hotel two nights earlier (they wouldn't let her in unescorted). I was going to get her anyway at LA Cafe and didn't think anything of her showing up like that unprompted, but I guess it was an indication of getting attached.

So I really like the long times and GFE experience but I need to be on guard with the three-takeout rule and look for other clues. Have also met girls with pictures from Thailand on their phones. Some western guy had taken her there. Like coals to Newcastle but I kinda get it. OTOH, one of my better long-times was later taken to Thailand and showered with gifts by some young-butterfly very well compensated Wall Street type. Just ruined her. She was spoiled and left with unrealistic expectations but the guy's a butterfly and other customers at the bar all will seem like cheap Charlies after that. I don't leave that kind of footprint.

Volterra
11-23-22, 14:03
So I really like the long times and GFE experience but I need to be on guard with the three-takeout rule and look for other clues. Have also met girls with pictures from Thailand on their phones. Some western guy had taken her there. Like coals to Newcastle but I kinda get it. OTOH, one of my better long-times was later taken to Thailand and showered with gifts by some young-butterfly very well compensated Wall Street type. Just ruined her. She was spoiled and left with unrealistic expectations but the guy's a butterfly and other customers at the bar all will seem like cheap Charlies after that. I don't leave that kind of footprint.I suppose she had to come back to reality at some point when her pockets were empty enough. Grateful that you don't leave that kind of footprint! Despite our competitive and self serving instincts, we have to keep coordinated so we can all have something to enjoy.

I agree with you that it's best to keep a limit on the number of takeouts for any one girl in one spot. As far as I'm concerned, they've no business or right to post any claim to you when transactions are involved. You need to leave them be when you see them with other customers, after all, and they need to allow you the same freedom.

Goferring
11-23-22, 18:56
I suppose she had to come back to reality at some point when her pockets were empty enough. Grateful that you don't leave that kind of footprint! Despite our competitive and self serving instincts, we have to keep coordinated so we can all have something to enjoy.I'm generally in town for a while so I'm a big fan of being a side dick. Daddy can buy her the business class holidays, phones and fine dining. That's fine. But all the girls know that when he's gone and bills need to be paid, then they can drop around on my terms for a cash top up. I've written a few times before of girls that are charging 3000ST for tourists straight off the boat, 1500 for an afternoon before work for preferred customers and occasionally down to 500 for broke dive masters when a bill is due NOW. No one likes to discuss that she is also paying, not paid by, a pinoy boyfriend for sex. That's THE SAME GIRL. Tiered pricing is very much alive in PI.


I agree with you that it's best to keep a limit on the number of takeouts for any one girl in one spot. As far as I'm concerned, they've no business or right to post any claim to you when transactions are involved. You need to leave them be when you see them with other customers, after all, and they need to allow you the same freedom.I've moved away from barfines but, back in the day, it wasn't unusual for me to do a rolling barfine for a girl I clicked with or returned to from a previous visit. I found it saved time, money and risk as I continued with a girl who was pressing the right buttons. I'm pretty up front with intentions so I didn't have too many issues with girls getting possessive. Those that did, I just put down to protecting their investment and income stream rather than falling in love with a fine male specimen like myself.

Civilians or part timers are more of an issue but only if the guy allows it to be so. A polite reminder that I'm here for a good time not a long term BF / GF relationship generally works. If they aren't happy with that or start to go psycho, then there is always the door. Again, no need to insult anyone but the girls will only go nuts if they thing they can get away with it or if its to their benefit.

Cheers. G.

Mr Enternational
11-24-22, 01:06
I miss the long-times and GFEs, though you identify a pitfall there that I've run into. If I get a really good performer with a good GFE there's a huge urge to keep taking her because it just makes sense vs. Finding a new one that probabilities say won't be as good.I thought people went to PI because the probablility of finding a good performer with good GFE was high. But in your experience it is not?


I've never said anything to lead them on but nonetheless have gotten the jealous-girlfriend bit when I didn't know we were in a relationship!It is just that chicks know who they can pull that shit with. I do not even get that from normal chicks I am in a real relationship with. It would seem really weird to me if a hooker did it. I guess I would just laugh and be like you funny.

Iguana Six
11-24-22, 06:36
What has changed?

WestCoast1
11-24-22, 07:32
What has changed?The best way to explain that is for you to go ahead and read what we've been writing on this thread for the past 6 or so months. A lot has changed, from increased Korean bar ownership, increased barfines, restos, and SW. Start at AC thread page 45:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City/page45

Dg8787
11-24-22, 16:56
What has changed?20 years ago!

Be careful not to fuck any 19 year olds. She might be your daughter! Btw, bring some DNA swabs with you just in case.

Pussy is still available. Please don't post any "I remember when" shit living in the past.

NapaSlapper
11-24-22, 20:02
What has changed?Reading back in the forums will give you a small idea of what angeles has turned into but when you actually get boots on the ground you will immediately realise that truthfully absolutely nothing possitive remains especially when it comes to girls looks, size, attitude and greed is concerned.

Will be waiting for your field report.

Sailor Jack
11-25-22, 06:58
Three bars (BodyShop, Masquerades, LaBamba) have joined together for 'Manic Mondays' parties. See the sign.

Hours are 6 pm to 8 pm, although you need to get there earlier to get a good seat. There were no empty seats by 6 pm. No cover charge.

Sailor Jack attended the recent Manic Monday at BodyShop. The BodyShop girls were joined by 5-6 girls from each of the other two bars. There were some 'spotlight' dancers and some topless dancers. There were about 50 guys attending. A small free sandwich on a plate was brought out to each guy. It was okay, but nothing like a meal. There was a raffle with several winners. Every attendee got one raffle ticket plus one ticket for each lady drink purchased. The prizes were free drinks or food, which is kind of nice.

Sailor did not see anything that he would barfine at the going rate.

The food was free so not much was expected. Sailor Jack thinks there is no reason to give away free food. Sailor Jack thinks it might me better to grill up some decent hot dogs on buns and sell them cheap.

This was the first of the Manic Mondays, so maybe future Manic Mondays will be better. Sailor Jack plans to attend if only to support these bars that are trying hard to improve.

A special note here to the recently re-opened Masquerades (it is the old Rhapsody bar). The managers, waitresses, and girls here are trying very hard. Sailor Jack has seen a steady improvement in their business and in their girls. Please support these non-Korean bars. Stop in for a beer and buy a lady drink or two. Beers are cheap and the AirCon is good. We need them to be successful.

Unrelated SJ Archives photo.

Goferring
11-25-22, 07:10
Sailor Jack attended the recent Manic Monday at BodyShop. The BodyShop girls were joined by 5-6 girls from each of the other two bars. There were some 'spotlight' dancers and some topless dancers. There were about 50 guys attending.Would someone explain to me what a 'spotlight' dancer is?? Please tell me that quality pole dancer shows have returned to AC. Or is she just a prettier than average girl doing the stoner shuffle on stage??

I should emphasise that I'm not addicted to pole dancers. That is just a vicious and slanderous rumour spread by my enemies. I'm not addicted. Really I'm not.

Enjoy. G.

Sailor Jack
11-25-22, 07:24
Several bars (see photo) have joined together for 'T-Back Tuesdays'. It is held from 6 pm-8 pm, although all seats were full well before 6 pm. No cover charge. There were no finger foods.

Sailor Jack attended the recent T-Back Tuesday at Shooters.

The other bars all brought 3-5 spotlight dancers. There was a dance 'competition' where the spotlight dancers took turns shaking their asses to that 'give me give me' song. Sailor Jack hates that song, but SJ loves the ass twerking that it provokes.

There was a striptease thing, topless only. But some real hotties in the group.

There was a 'BJ Competition' which involved girls drinking and tongue-ing a shooter glass of alcohol and whipped cream. The girls really got into this which made it pretty good to watch.

Then there was a 'Kissing Competition' which featured pairs of girls lesbian kissing on stage. Some of the girls were way into it. The kissing progressed into deep French kissing and then simulated and real lesbian cunnilingus. Now who does not like real heartfelt lesbian cunnilingus? Sailor Jack loved this.

Oh, each guy got one raffle ticket plus a raffle ticket for each girl drink.

Look for future updates.

Photos; unrelated Sailor Jack Archives.

NapaSlapper
11-25-22, 14:23
Three bars (BodyShop, Masquerades, LaBamba) have joined together for 'Manic Mondays' parties. See the sign.

Hours are 6 pm to 8 pm, although you need to get there earlier to get a good seat. There were no empty seats by 6 pm. No cover charge.

Sailor Jack attended the recent Manic Monday at BodyShop. The BodyShop girls were joined by 5-6 girls from each of the other two bars. There were some 'spotlight' dancers and some topless dancers. There were about 50 guys attending. A small free sandwich on a plate was brought out to each guy. It was okay, but nothing like a meal. There was a raffle with several winners. Every attendee got one raffle ticket plus one ticket for each lady drink purchased. The prizes were free drinks or food, which is kind of nice.

Sailor did not see anything that he would barfine at the going rate.

The food was free so not much was expected. Sailor Jack thinks there is no reason to give away free food. Sailor Jack thinks it might me better to grill up some decent hot dogs on buns and sell them cheap.

This was the first of the Manic Mondays, so maybe future Manic Mondays will be better. Sailor Jack plans to attend if only to support these bars that are trying hard to improve.

A special note here to the recently re-opened Masquerades (it is the old Rhapsody bar). The managers, waitresses, and girls here are trying very hard. Sailor Jack has seen a steady improvement in their business and in their girls. Please support these non-Korean bars. Stop in for a beer and buy a lady drink or two. Beers are cheap and the AirCon is good. We need them to be successful.

Unrelated SJ Archives photo.Thanks for your report.

I think you will find that punters that fly half way around the world at great expense for a few days fun could not care one way or another what nationality a bar is owned by they are there to look and fuck the pretiest girls available.

Unfurtunately in the new angeles city the non korean owned bars have the worst line ups by far as you have found out by not spotting one single girl you would barfine, its a catch 22 situation in that the non korean owned bars need better looking girls desperately but the better looking angeles bargirls all want to work for the biggest gogo bars which are all owned by the koreans, why, because salaries much higher, comissions on drinks much higher, much higher amount of high spending younger asians throwing money around like its going out of fashion, asians making it rain money every few minutes, what's not to like about working for the korean bars.

I too often visit western bar owner friends that I've known for multiple years for a catch up, buy a few drinks, spend a little but that's fine for us that call angeles home and have all the time in the world but for those that are visiting on a shorter fucking mission then pointless to sit around chatting and not to head straight for the bars that have the pretty girls.

As with all businesses all over the world the way to be succesful is to offer an excellent product at an attractive price something most western owned bars in angeles are either not able or are unwilling to offer, don't keep up with the competition in business then closing ones doors or selling up to the koreans is not far away.

Goferring
11-25-22, 23:47
Thanks for your report.

I think you will find that punters that fly half way around the world at great expense for a few days fun could not care one way or another what nationality a bar is owned by they are there to look and fuck the pretiest girls available....

As with all businesses all over the world the way to be succesful is to offer an excellent product at an attractive price something most western owned bars in angeles are either not able or are unwilling to offer, don't keep up with the competition in business then closing ones doors or selling up to the koreans is not far away.I have learnt the hard way that price, stunning good looks and in bar antics are not a predictor of in room performance. If anything, they are normally inversely proportional. We all have our minimum standards but that's why I actively avoid the stunners, the outrageously priced, K / CHN focus bars etc.

True but the definition of "excellent product" varies wildly between people and races. Some focus on model good looks and an impressive girl on their arm. Others will look for an affectionate GFE who performs a ticklist of activities with gusto. Still others just want to plow through as many women as humanly possible in their limited time available. Unfortunately, it's the bars that get to choose which market they target so it's no surprise that those that generate the greatest revenue are the survivors.

MarquisdeSade1
11-26-22, 01:10
I have learnt the hard way that price, stunning good looks and in bar antics are not a predictor of in room performance. If anything, they are normally inversely proportional. We all have our minimum standards but that's why I actively avoid the stunners, the outrageously priced, K / CHN focus bars etc.

True but the definition of "excellent product" varies wildly between people and races. Some focus on model good looks and an impressive girl on their arm. Others will look for an affectionate GFE who performs a ticklist of activities with gusto. Still others just want to plow through as many women as humanly possible in their limited time available. Unfortunately, it's the bars that get to choose which market they target so it's no surprise that those that generate the greatest revenue are the survivors.#1 post of November 2022, encore please!!

YummyPL
11-27-22, 00:04
It has been about 10 years since I visited AC. Over the last 10 years I have been enjoying Germany, Russia, and Ukraine. I lived in Ukraine for 18 months and absolutely loved it. In Ukraine I spent on average about $150-200 USD for about 3 hours of very good sex with young, thin, attractive girls. I sponsored a girl for about $1400 a month and averaged about 3 overnights with her a week--she was a perfect sponsorette.

I am now venturing back to AC for a work trip. I will be there about a week. I am curious what my impression will be. I reported a fair amount previously. I will try to report what a 55 year old white guy (who is basically a newbie) gets himself into. And I like to take pics so I will do my best to illustrate my reports.

I arrive on 10 Dec. Happy to meet up with any fellow hobbyists.

Goferring
11-27-22, 00:26
It has been about 10 years since I visited AC. Over the last 10 years I have been enjoying Germany, Russia, and Ukraine. I lived in Ukraine for 18 months and absolutely loved it. In Ukraine I spent on average about $150-200 USD for about 3 hours of very good sex with young, thin, attractive girls. I sponsored a girl for about $1400 a month and averaged about 3 overnights with her a week--she was a perfect sponsorette.

I am now venturing back to AC for a work trip. I will be there about a week. I am curious what my impression will be...There are two opinions in AC, both correct. 1/ AC is an absolute shit hole, where the prices, quality and performance of girl's have all dropped over time. 2/ AC is a place with it's own character, with girls on tap, where a great time can be had for a few days.

RTFF and you will find many posts passionately on both sides of the arguement. It really is a place where you determine how much you enjoy it.

You won't find any young, tall, hot white chicks but $200 will certainly get you a fun day.

Enjoy. G.

YummyPL
11-27-22, 01:59
where the prices, quality and performance of girl's have all dropped over time.I have played in dozens of different places and this is true in every single one of them. The world has moved on. We make the best of what we have available to us).

I have been to many worse shit holes than AC (at least from an infrastructure perspective) and managed to have a good time.


You won't find any young, tall, hot white chicks but $200 will certainly get you a fun day.My sponsorette was 156 cm and 43 kilos. Tall is not something I am interested in.

In any case, I like small and GFE. 10 years ago I got that pretty well in AC. Let's see how it goes)).

Python75
11-27-22, 05:11
An accurate assessment.


There are two opinions in AC, both correct.

You won't find any young, tall, hot white chicks but $200 will certainly get you a fun day.

Enjoy. G.

WestCoast1
11-28-22, 23:48
Suggested pre-vaxxing warmup activity. You want to pull one muscle, and no ligaments.

Sailor Jack
11-29-22, 05:34
JL10 was a door girl at a bar on Fields near MacArthur. Good friend and wingman BigA and Sailor Jack walked right past JL10 who was standing out in front of her bar. Then Sailor Jack saw how hot JL10 was and SJ went back to chat with her. BigA was annoyed to wait for Sailor Jack and BigA told SJ he was wasting his time. BigA would later eat those words.

JL10 was a 22 year old hard core bar girl from Samar. JL10 would become a SJ regular. Sailor Jack gave JL10 an open invitation to text SJ at any time for short time or long time. The sex? JL10 is a true porn star. Fucking incredible sex every single time. Her body? Goodness sakes look at the pictures! But Sailor Jack must add that JL10 also had an unusually tight and pretty pink pookie. Oh, and JL10 really loved Sailor Jacks rather large meat missile. And JL10 gave a championship level blowjob. JL10 is a top 10 all time fuck for Sailor Jack.

JL10, like all prostitutes, is always broke no matter how much money they get. So good-hearted, charitable Sailor Jack always made himself available to help JL10 out with a peso injection whenever she needed it. Neighbor BigA was fully aware of Sailor Jack's ongoing rendezvous with JL10 and was jonesing for JL10 mightily.

One day Sailor Jack is eating chicken fingers at Kokomo's and minding my own business like always. In comes JL10 and her Australian boyfriend. They are all lovey-dovey and pawing at each other. JL10 and AusBF sit right next to Sailor Jack at the long counter overlooking Fields Avenue. AusBF is 6 foot 3 inches, 180 pounds, blue eyes, long curly blond hair, maybe 28 years old, a true to life Aus surfer dude. We never make eye contact or say a word but all Sailor Jack can think is how SJ had JL10 bent over pounding her just 8 hours earlier.

Brother mongers, here Sailor Jack wants to testify that SJ bent this one over and fucked her just as hard as is humanly possible. So sayeth Sailor Jack.

I lost track of JL10 some time ago..

Sailor Jack
11-29-22, 05:37
JL10 once took an international phone call from her AusBF while giving Sailor Jack an AC slurpee*.

Yup, JL10 was in mid dragon drain when her phone rang. JL10 jumped up from her knees, said shhhhh-shhhh-shhhh with a finger to her very wet lips, and then answered the call from AusBF. Sailor Jack's eyes were rolling from the back of his head to the front whilst JL10 chatted with AusBF. Picture unfulfilled Sailor Jack waiting there, as patiently as possible given the situation, and SJ's tiller gradually losing bearing on the north star.

So JL10 secured her incoming peso transfer from AusBF, finished the phone call, and then got right back on her knees and finished off Sailor Jack.

*Sailor Jack actually has this on video.

Dg8787
11-29-22, 05:51
JL10 once took an international phone call from her AusBF while giving Sailor Jack an AC slurpee*.

Yup, JL10 was in mid dragon drain when her phone rang. JL10 jumped up from her knees, said shhhhh-shhhh-shhhh with a finger to her very wet lips, and then answered the call from AusBF. Sailor Jack's eyes were rolling from the back of his head to the front whilst JL10 chatted with AusBF. Picture unfulfilled Sailor Jack waiting there, as patiently as possible given the situation, and SJ's tiller gradually losing bearing on the north star.

So JL10 secured her incoming peso transfer from AusBF, finished the phone call, and then got right back on her knees and finished off Sailor Jack.

*Sailor Jack actually has this on video.My favorite activity is dining on the girls puki when she is on the phone to her BF. I love it when she is trying to slow her breathing down while she is telling him she is doing nothing ATM but talking to her ATM!

Try it next time.

Nothing like being in AC.

WestCoast1
11-29-22, 08:18
JL10 once took an international phone call from her AusBF while giving Sailor Jack an AC slurpee*. SNIP

So JL10 secured her incoming peso transfer from AusBF, finished the phone call, and then got right back on her knees and finished off Sailor Jack.

*Sailor Jack actually has this on video.


My favorite activity is dining on the girls puki when she is on the phone to her BF. I love it when she is trying to slow her breathing down while she is telling him she is doing nothing ATM but talking to her ATM!Bad. You fellas is bad.

I'd never do anything like that.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=1596636&viewfull=1#post1596636

Sailor Jack
11-29-22, 15:32
Sailor Jack attempted to attend T-back Tuesday at Qbar.

Sailor Jack arrived at 530 pm to find Qbar 1/3 full, zero girls on stage, no one with a drink, no girls getting a drink, and 100% of seats marked 'reserved'.

Sailor Jack will state the obvious; there is no reason to attempt to attend.

Sailor Jack
11-29-22, 15:35
Sailor Jack attempted to attend T-back Tuesday at Qbar.

Sailor Jack arrived at 530 pm to find Qbar 1/3 full, zero girls on stage, no one with a drink, no girls getting a drink, and 100% of empty seats marked 'reserved'.

Sailor Jack will state the obvious; there is no reason to attempt to attend.

Unrelated photo from SJ Archives.

Goferring
11-30-22, 19:33
Bad. You fellas is bad.

I'd never do anything like that.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=1596636&viewfull=1#post1596636Years ago, we were relaxing in the room post session when girlie hit the phone answering a few calls and messages. I think it was her attempt at stirring a little drama.

"Are you jealous, G?

"Why would I be jealous? They WANT to fuck you. I AM fucking you!

Tlinks
12-01-22, 05:55
I have not been to AC in years but now that I am divorced I'm heading back. Was wondering is Dave still around from Kokomos? Also what the barfines now and days. Thanks.

Coolie High
12-01-22, 08:08
JL10 once took an international phone call from her AusBF while giving Sailor Jack an AC slurpee*.

Yup, JL10 was in mid dragon drain when her phone rang. JL10 jumped up from her knees, said shhhhh-shhhh-shhhh with a finger to her very wet lips, and then answered the call from AusBF. Sailor Jack's eyes were rolling from the back of his head to the front whilst JL10 chatted with AusBF. Picture unfulfilled Sailor Jack waiting there, as patiently as possible given the situation, and SJ's tiller gradually losing bearing on the north star.

So JL10 secured her incoming peso transfer from AusBF, finished the phone call, and then got right back on her knees and finished off Sailor Jack.

*Sailor Jack actually has this on video.Man I've been reading your stories on the low now and got to say your stories are insightful as well as fucking hilarious 😂. Especially when you narrate your stories in 3rd person. BTW that was mighty kind of you to make sure she get her money from the simp and not blow up her spot before she went back down on her knees and finish you off proper. Theres a saying back in the states that says, "Hoes got to eat too"LOL.

Can't wait for the next episode from Sailor Jack adventures.

Volterra
12-03-22, 06:32
Man I've been reading your stories on the low now and got to say your stories are insightful as well as fucking hilarious 😂. Especially when you narrate your stories in 3rd person. BTW that was mighty kind of you to make sure she get her money from the simp and not blow up her spot before she went back down on her knees and finish you off proper. Theres a saying back in the states that says, "Hoes got to eat too"LOL.

Can't wait for the next episode from Sailor Jack adventures.You're a good sport, Sailor Jack. That goes for comrades WestCoast 1, Goferring, and Coolie High as well. You're giving master Volterra added inspiration for his approaching January AC adventure. You see, master Volterra is the kind of curmudgeon who would normally get grumpy when little missy takes call from clueless Aussiebf. However, he now looks forward to listening to their every word!

Which brings to mind a chick master Volterra picked up on a drunken weeknight in HK years ago: mV started to wake her up after 9 am with his young Volterric penetrator, but she was barely past her first couple of moans when she realized that she was late for work. She stopped the foreplay in order to stand up and make a call into the office. Whilst she ad libbed a slew of creative fibs to her boss on her mobile, she bent over invitingly with her back to the Volterra meister, who proceeded to pound her flawless honkie ass to oblivion as he listened to her boss gullibly fall for the lies on the other end of the phone line.

Volterra hopes he can make SJ et al proud in January 2023!

In the meantime, junior master Volterra would buy a few rounds of beers to see that video of the grand master Sailor Jack's.

FuriousGeorge
12-03-22, 19:12
This new place is like a full spa with a hotel attached. Looks very cool and I will definitely check it out this month. I wonder what are the chances you can get a handy here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8oYq5sPo3k&t=45s

RacShack
12-03-22, 20:04
This new place is like a full spa with a hotel attached. Looks very cool and I will definitely check it out this month. I wonder what are the chances you can get a handy here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8oYq5sPo3k&t=45sThanks bud, will definitely try when their, how far from walking street? Is it in same area? Looks fun, anyone confirmed yet if you can get a handy or not? Other services? Any information will be awesome!

Dg8787
12-03-22, 21:02
This new place is like a full spa with a hotel attached. Looks very cool and I will definitely check it out this month. I wonder what are the chances you can get a handy here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8oYq5sPo3k&t=45sPlease report back on it.

FYI. Years ago that area was a little sketchy at night. Especially after midnight. Be careful.

NapaSlapper
12-04-22, 11:22
Well its that time of the year again and angeles has officially entered high season.

I had had 2 separate barhop evenings over the last couple of weeks,1 evening with some western expat friends and 1 evening with visiting korean buiseness associates.

1st barhop night was a drizzly Friday evening with western friends, as my friends are not keen on the bigger gogo bars we hit the likes of champagne bar, monsoon bar, geckos bar, bar nana, well although its meant to be high season all bars visited had very few patrons with one bar having none until we walked in, girl numbers were roughly 10-12 girls in each bar, mixture of some older, some chubby, some plain and just 2 ok, s out of all the 4 bars,1 ok was a cherrie and the other wanted 4,000 pesos short time with no blow job offered, friend declined and went for a plain chubby who promised a better time, again girl was 4,000 baht short time plus 2 x drinks at 300 pesos = 600 pesos, girl would not have been my choice at any price but friend seemed happy enough in his choice, all in all it was a cheap night out for me, bought total of 6 drinks for myself and no lady drinks as I did not see anything worth buying one for.

2nd night was with the korean business associates, they like many koreans in angeles were younger, maybe 35 years old slim, well dressed and fairly handsome, obviously being their first trip to angeles they were keen for me to show tnem around, obviously I chose the bigger mostly korean owned bars of atlantis bar, club xs, avalon bar and club sky, I knew that if any better looking girls were to be found then there was a higher chance of finding such in these 4 bars.

Its so funny that on entering bars with koreans the girls go absolutely crazy at the sight of koreans, no such luck when I was previously out with westerners, these 4 bars have professional dance shows, great seating, lighting and a nice atmosphere, well the koreans did what koreans do best, table the best girls, buy multiple lady drinks, buy food for the girls and generally throw money around like its going out of fashion,1st bar atlantis bar I had picked up the entire tab, it was just under 15,000 pesos and we were in there about an hour, the other bars I'm sure the koreans spent way more but as they picked up the tabs I'm not sure exactly.

Did the koreans get laid, yes they did, was it by their 1st choice or even 2nd choice girls no, reason is that so many angeles better looking girls are either cherrie and drinks only girls, if the younger koreans are struggling to get the better girls to barfine then what chance have we older westerners.

In summing up, koreans are by far the girls no1 choice, if a pretty girl will actually go barfine you bet its going to be with the younger koreans, so many angeles girls can earn big money in salaries, lady drinks, guys making it rain that very few of the better looking girls will go out, just simply more and easier money to be earned by staying in the bar.

Sailor Jack
12-05-22, 08:52
Please report back on it.

FYI. Years ago that area was a little sketchy at night. Especially after midnight. Be careful.1) Teodoro Street is safe from Fields Avenue to Venus Hotel and Spa. There are several hotels and condos that have security guards out front. Additionally, there is a trike station right in front of Venus Hotel and Spa. Nearby Narcisso Street is not safe at night (going from Fields Avenue to Kandi Tours, for instance). Venus Hotel and Spa is 400 meters from Fields Avenue.

2) Sailor Jack has eaten breakfast at Cafe Yolo several times. Cafe Yolo is not air conditioned and there were only two non-Korean choices on the menu. Sailor Jack never saw a non-Korean in this hotel other than the help. Several Koreans seemed shocked to see Sailor Jack's rather handsome white face in Cafe Yolo. This hotel is definitely designed for Koreans. Whoever made that video could not have missed that and SJ thinks it is pretty misleading not to mention that fact.

3) A Sauna? It is the Philippines! If you want a sauna just step outside! Sailor Jack will skip right to the blowjob, fuck you very much.

4) The first time Sailor Jack was in Venus Hotel and Spa SJ explained that SJ was looking for a restaurant, and skip the sauna horseshit. Anita escorted Sailor Jack to Cafe Yolo. In Anita's third sentence she was telling Sailor Jack about her fiance (now married?) possibly because Sailor Jack had drool coming out the corners of his mouth. The video does not do her justice, damn what a body!

Random SJ Archive photos.

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12-06-22, 06:00
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AsianPursuits
12-06-22, 08:32
Nearby Narcisso Street is not safe at night (going from Fields Avenue to Kandi Tours, for instance). Have you got new intel on Narcisco. I've been frequenting accom on that street for many years and never had issue. Actually I was gong there before the traffic lights, then the traffic lights, then they actually got turned on, then they went to flashing amber and I think last time the lights were off again. Another failed traffic measure.

I did see one foreigner get his wallet lifted from his back pocket near the money changers on the corner near the food places. He genuinely deserved it as he was loud and lazy with his personal security though.

Yuri
12-07-22, 05:38
You will get a fair amount of action in Angeles at Bargain prices.

Stay at the ABC Hotel. I little be expensive I feel you get good quality for the money.


I have played in dozens of different places and this is true in every single one of them. The world has moved on. We make the best of what we have available to us).

I have been to many worse shit holes than AC (at least from an infrastructure perspective) and managed to have a good time.

My sponsorette was 156 cm and 43 kilos. Tall is not something I am interested in.

In any case, I like small and GFE. 10 years ago I got that pretty well in AC. Let's see how it goes)).

AsianPursuits
12-08-22, 00:39
Street report.

It was a pleasant evening for a walk down memory lane last night.

Started with dinner at Envy with a mate.

Tried my usual haunts at Centauro, Lollipop, then Viking bar, then baccara.

Lollipop was the standout with a full stage of active, laughing and fun girls. Also a full set of seats with hungry mongers drinking and preparing to choose their night's conquest.

Centauro was less active. Less girls and maybe just 4 customers. Chatted to one spinner girl but she was just going through the paces and didn't feel the vibe.

Viking Bar actually had waitresses and dancers that were actively engaged in the business. I didn't think the quality was there but had a few drinks and enjoyd the dancers. They had a ladyboy performer / singer which came on as a break from watching filipina semi-naked bodies- I left at that point.

Walked into Baccara as I liked that the girls all seemed nicely dressed. Sat next to three young Korean guys. The entire stage was just girls staring down the Korean guys until they make a choice. They hadn't made a choice by the time I left. Didn't understand it and the girls on stage were not the type of small girls I usually see Koreans selecting.

Walked back to Lollipop to make a choice but couldn't get a seat!

Went back home, searched Wechat for an in-room massage and had a girl delivered by the time I had finished brushing my teeth. Nice girl, single mum (surprised?) from Mindanao.

Lots of choices in Angeles.

AsianPursuits
12-08-22, 06:48
Thinking I needed a break from the past few days I took a walk to SM this morning.

Before I had even got out past the money changers on the corner there was a well dressed little girl in heels changing some USD. Being the gentleman that I am I slowed my walking pace a little and struck up some polite conversation. Yes she was having a nice day, yes, the traffic so bad etc etc. I suggested we get some breakfast at Jollibee near Maingate which she took up. Eventually I suggested that instead of sleeping in the un-aircon dorm room she could crash at my hotel room. She made some text message exchange then agreed.

I worked in my room and let her sleep until midday then I got in bed with her and help onto her. Geez these girls can sleep heavily. Eventually she wakes, more small talk and goes into sex mode.

Yes I did pay her and she was on her way to wherever.

There really are opportunities everywhere here and no need to wait until the bars open.

AsianPursuits
12-08-22, 08:39
You will get a fair amount of action in Angeles at Bargain prices.
Well my afternoon forecast is yet another massage girl from wechart P350 for massage, P1 k total including ass. Let's see just how chubby and fuggily she is.

It really is crazy in this place. At any time just turn on Wechat or Tinder and select from who is most recently online.

Docwiltro
12-08-22, 09:04
There are good connections between all AC, Subic and Manila cities. It's the first & final mile that are the issue. No monger stays at Pasay, Dau or Olongapo so the trike mafia must be used. But that's the price of 300 p transport. We get what we pay for.

Want door to door? Pay for a car.The first and final mile, so to speak, is the issue for me also. That is why I advocate for the mini bus services since they pick-up and drop-off at your hotel. There is not much difference in cost when you have to pay the p200 fee for that trike from the bus terminal to the hotel (and then back again). I spent p1,350 in last mile expenses on this last trip which included a taxi ride of p500 (it was raining) from Cubao to my Makati condo.

WestCoast1
12-08-22, 13:58
Let's see just how chubby and fuggily she is.Ring any bells?

Dg8787
12-08-22, 14:18
The first and final mile, so to speak, is the issue for me also. That is why I advocate for the mini bus services since they pick-up and drop-off at your hotel. There is not much difference in cost when you have to pay the p200 fee for that trike from the bus terminal to the hotel (and then back again). I spent p1,350 in last mile expenses on this last trip which included a taxi ride of p500 (it was raining) from Cubao to my Makati condo.Seems to me P500 for taxi from Cubao to Makati is reasonable. Did I miss something?

AsianPursuits
12-08-22, 16:05
Ring any bells?Mine was worse. The best I could do was pay her the massage fee and get her out of the room as soon as practically possible I can only assume that the wechat 'her' was a handler as the beast that arrived was sucking the personality out of the apartment reception and the guard she passed. Once was in my room all I could do from puking was getting her out the door with the full massage fee.

Always, always meet them outside the hotel. I was lazy and let my guard down.